[12:15] gn8 === PaloDeQueso [n=douglas@pcp0010523178pcs.lwrswt01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === G|Patrick [n=opera@dynadsl-080-228-86-064.ewetel.net] has left #kubuntu [] [12:16] How do I use a plugin I installed for konqueror? [12:16] a metabar plugin. === nick01 [n=nick01@home-07031.b.astral.ro] has joined #kubuntu [12:19] hi; if I install kubuntu is there somebody that can help me configure lirc ? I wanna use that feature in the kde control center to control apps with my tv tuner remote === Nakkel [n=nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #kubuntu === douglas [n=douglas@pcp0010523178pcs.lwrswt01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:20] Does anyone know how to utilize a konqueror plugin I installed as a plugin? === zorba64 [n=zorba64@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has joined #kubuntu === shofstet [n=shofstet@236.44.63.81.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu === dgg [n=dgotilla@22633.rjo.virtua.com.br] has joined #kubuntu === dgg [n=dgotilla@22633.rjo.virtua.com.br] has left #kubuntu [] === _stefan [n=stefan@p54ABF027.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === spoogly [n=spoogly@c-67-186-14-131.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:28] <_stefan> hello again [12:29] <_stefan> I solved the gpg [12:29] <_stefan> problem [12:29] _stefan: what was it? === dgg_rio [n=dgotilla@22633.rjo.virtua.com.br] has joined #kubuntu [12:29] <_stefan> I just forgott to import secret keys in kgpg [12:29] ok [12:29] <_stefan> ohhh man.. [12:30] <_stefan> now all runs well [12:30] <_stefan> I were a good to have a notice in that moment [12:30] <_stefan> So you can "earn" time === spoogly [n=spoogly@c-67-186-14-131.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === spoogly [n=spoogly@c-67-186-14-131.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _praveen [n=praveen@c-67-177-141-238.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:31] <_stefan> sorry in the moment I have not a better word === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === douglas [n=douglas@pcp0010523178pcs.lwrswt01.pa.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:35] <_stefan> I wish I could develop === praveen_ [n=praveen@c-67-177-141-238.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:36] _stefan: why can't you ? === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #kubuntu [12:50] <_stefan> I need a teacher I think [12:51] <_stefan> But have no money for study development === ORiON [n=orion@cpe-70-117-0-232.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === ManLord [n=martin@220.80-202-255.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:51] _stefan: there are plenty of guides online [12:52] <_stefan> ahh do have a good site for beginners? [12:52] <_stefan> C/C++ [12:53] i'd ask uncle google, personally or in #ubuntu-offtopic === zorba64 [n=zorba64@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has left #kubuntu ["I] [12:53] <_stefan> okaay === kbob717 [n=kbob717@68.53.63.80] has joined #kubuntu [12:55] how do i get kubuntu? [12:56] kbob717: use synaptic to install "kubuntu-desktop" === kalenedrael [n=kalene@c-24-34-92-68.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:56] koo === quilon [n=chatzill@202.91.207.51] has joined #kubuntu [12:58] Anyone know of a fix to stop gamin_server eating up my cpu resources ? [12:58] quilon: kill it? [12:59] it re-starts after the kill [12:59] quilon: close nautilus or konqueror [01:00] k tries [01:01] nalioth: its still there [01:02] quilon: unfortunately, gam_server is a necessary part of the system [01:02] quilon: it is 'indexing' (smoething like that) your stuff [01:03] nalioth and unfortunately lots of people having same problem with no soultion found after more than 5 hours of googling [01:05] quilon: yes, even i'm afflicted with it [01:05] nalioth: I would think nobody would want an indexing system if its taking more than 70% of CPU === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu [01:05] lol there you go === peanut [n=paul@c-24-22-180-161.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:08] quilon: it should quit once it finds all the new files (mine does) [01:09] i alredy have a regular ubuntu installed on my machene however i dont have an internet connection todo apt-get can i download the packages needed to install kubuntu on it without having to reinstall the wholesystem? [01:10] peanut: i'm afraid you'd need more dvd-r than currently exists [01:10] peanut: you you could d/l a kubuntu disc [01:11] ? [01:11] what === praveen_ [n=praveen@c-67-177-141-238.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [01:11] peanut: but i'd wait until breezy kubuntu is official [01:11] im sort ofa newby [01:12] what do you mean by d/l [01:12] i actually want it on a horry machine [01:15] peanut: you can download a kubuntu install cd and add it from that [01:15] nalioth:how? [01:17] peanut: once you get the cd, put it in your machine and open a terminal [01:17] peanut: at that time, type "sudo apt-cdrom" and follow the directions [01:18] ok thanks === peanut [n=paul@c-24-22-180-161.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:22] nalioth:sorry i closed the window by accedent what did you say [01:23] peanut: after you run the 'apt-cdrom', run "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" [01:23] peanut: you should have kubuntu [01:23] peanut: if i were you, i'd wait for the breezy kubuntu release (oct 13) [01:23] ok thanks === ottie [n=ottie@c-69-181-43-37.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:27] after i runapt-cdrom should i run add [01:29] nalioth [01:29] peanut: "sudo apt-cdrom add" [01:29] follow the instructions [01:29] ok === JeffAMcGee [n=jeff@host-66-205-125-240.classicnet.net] has joined #kubuntu === rakel [n=rakel@159.red-82-158-95.user.auna.net] has joined #kubuntu === hussam [n=hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu === rakel is now known as foca [01:54] Operation not possible with broken packages. [01:54] Please fix them first. [01:54] i'm trying to upgrade xlibmesa-gl from 6.8.2-10 to 6.8.2-10.1, bur when I select upgrade and then commit changes then nothing gets downloaded. And because of that I can't "upgrade all packages" gets this error: [01:54] read above... === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === _john_ [n=john@ool-44c63ce7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu === _john_ is now known as arcanistherogue\ === arcanistherogue\ is now known as arcanistherogue [02:00] ManLord: try it from command line. do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [02:02] xlibmesa-gl-dev: Depends: xlibmesa-gl (= 6.8.2-10.1) but 6.8.2-10 is installed [02:03] ManLord: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [02:04] hussam: same problem [02:04] it suggests with an -f flag [02:04] ManLord: try "apt-get -f install" [02:04] apt-get install xlibmesa-gl [02:05] Pakker ut erstatningen xlibmesa-gl ... [02:05] dpkg: Feil ved behandling av /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa-gl_6.8.2-10.1_i386.deb (--unpack): [02:05] prver skrive over /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2, som ogs finnes i pakken fglrx-6-8-0 [02:05] dpkg-deb: underprosessen paste drept med signal (Rret ble brutt) [02:05] Det oppsto feil ved behandling av: [02:05] /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa-gl_6.8.2-10.1_i386.deb [02:05] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [02:05] some norwegian here... [02:06] trying to overwrite /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2, that also is in the package fglrx-6-8-0 [02:06] ManLord: it looks like your xlibmesa pkg is incorrect [02:06] failed to unpack [02:07] nalioth.. so how to fix? [02:07] ManLord: download it again [02:08] how exactly? [02:09] ManLord: hang on a minute [02:09] ManLord: "man apt-get" can provide some info while i look === _root [n=root@sat78-1-82-232-43-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:10] ManLord: sudo apt-get -d xlibmesa-gl === mcscruff [n=McScruff@cpc1-folk1-3-0-cust41.asfd.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:11] sudo apt-get install(?) -d xlibmesa-gl [02:11] ManLord: sounds good [02:12] nalioth: well i tried that, then what? sudo apt-get install xlibmesa-gl? [02:12] nalioth: without -d === carrouf [n=root@sat78-1-82-232-43-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:12] ManLord: yes, try it [02:14] this happens: [02:14] dpkg: Error while unpacking /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa-gl_6.8.2-10.1_i386.deb (--unpack): [02:14] trying to overwrite /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2, tat also exist in the package fglrx-6-8-0 [02:14] nalioth: had to translate the norwegian... [02:15] ManLord: you have a choice here [02:15] ManLord: there is a "force" option available, should you choose to take it [02:18] nalioth: I tried: sudo apt-get install xlibmesa-gl -f [02:18] same error === koalah [n=koalah@ppp-207-230-203-119-ras2.fd.centurytel.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:20] ManLord: you need this "dpkg --help" read about force options [02:20] ManLord: your system is warning you, btw [02:20] i have no sound in gnome [02:20] nalioth: I also tried sudo apt-get clean and then sudo apt-get install xlibmesa-gl [02:21] same prob [02:22] ManLord: if you HAVE to have it, you can use dpkg to force installation [02:23] it's just that it's restricting me from doing other actions with apt-get... === douglas [n=douglas@pcp0010523178pcs.lwrswt01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === |maddox| [n=ttt@a212-113-184-103.netcabo.pt] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [02:26] <|maddox|> hi [02:27] <|maddox|> hi hussam, how was the upgrade to breezy? [02:28] niloth: I did: sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa-gl_6.8.2-10.1_i386.deb [02:28] I haven't gone through with it yet. but I did apt-get -d dist-upgrade so the packages are downloaded [02:28] niloth: that solved it... hopefully not on the cost of anything else :) [02:29] niloth: because I had like 57 packages not fully installed, but now i could... [02:29] ManLord: the better option would have been --force-overwrite [02:29] ManLord: since that was the error it was giving you [02:29] niloth: ok, big problem? [02:30] |maddox|: should I go for it? [02:30] ManLord: dont know, but precision is better than --all [02:30] <|maddox|> hussam you?re half way hehe === tin_man [n=tin_man@cpe-68-206-114-179.stx.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === tin_man [n=tin_man@cpe-68-206-114-179.stx.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:31] niloth: you're right... well too late now... [02:31] <|maddox|> hussam: i would go for it [02:31] :) [02:31] |maddox|: all the packages are downloaded. But I heard some people are having an error: Initializing modules [02:32] niloth: Thanks for the help! Gotta go! :) === MCCPicky [n=ubuntu@CPE-203-51-72-179.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [02:33] |maddox|: did you get an "initializing modules" error? [02:33] <|maddox|> hussam: could be.... i got luck, everythink is runninge smooth here === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [02:33] <|maddox|> nopes === ManLord [n=martin@220.80-202-255.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu === ManLord [n=martin@220.80-202-255.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === ManLord [n=martin@220.80-202-255.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:42] |maddox|: I doing some work. I'll be done in like 10 minutes. After that, I'll do the upgrade === ManLord [n=martin@220.80-202-255.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu === ManLord [n=martin@220.80-202-255.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu === ManLord [n=martin@220.80-202-255.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu === ManLord [n=martin@220.80-202-255.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu === ManLord [n=martin@220.80-202-255.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu === _stefan [n=stefan@p54ABF027.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === blackflag [n=stefan@p54ABF027.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === yasser [n=yasser@59.93.240.208] has joined #kubuntu [02:57] hello all [02:57] can someone tell me to get an own channel? [02:58] is that expensive? [02:58] blackflag: costs like 10 million dollars a day. [02:59] blackflag: or just /join #channel name and it will be created [03:00] |maddox|: you there? [03:00] ohh so easy?!! cool [03:02] |maddox|: I can't connect to security.ubuntu.com ( it won't reslove 82.211.81.151 ) === blackflag [n=stefan@p54ABF027.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === lukas [n=lukas@c-82-192-229-45.customer.ggaweb.ch] has joined #kubuntu === MCCPicky [n=ubuntu@CPE-144-137-120-2.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === SgtYork [n=timothy@dsl-static-206-246-160-14.iquest.net] has joined #kubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.121.142.80] has joined #kubuntu === othernoob [n=othernoo@p54A2EB82.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === pedro [n=pedro@213.Red-83-42-29.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.94.34] has joined #kubuntu === SgtYork_ [n=timothy@dsl-static-206-246-160-14.iquest.net] has joined #kubuntu === [mark] [n=mark@219.94.45.254] has joined #kubuntu [03:52] hussam: Here security.ubuntu.com resolves to 82.211.81.138 [03:53] JeffAMcGee: yep thanks for noticing that, I'll replace security.archive.com by 82.211.81.138 in sources.list === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@nor75-15-82-67-190-83.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@nor75-15-82-67-190-83.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [04:05] hey im formatting home...but i want opera cookies/cache & gaim chat logs back....how do i back them up so I can reuse them? [04:06] yasser: not sure about opera, but look in ~/.gaim for your logs === The_Vox [n=vox@201.130.66.76] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === TimM [n=none@b-6c.lcom.net] has joined #kubuntu === troy [n=troy@wnpgmb01dc2-30-55.dynamic.mts.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _kiki [n=kiki@nor75-15-82-67-190-83.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === _kiki is now known as MrLeChat === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === MrLeChat [n=kiki@nor75-15-82-67-190-83.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [04:59] nalioth: you there? [05:01] nalioth: do you know if this is a good up2date mirror: http://mirrors.sunsite.dk/ubuntu/ ? if not, do you know any good one? === pc12 [n=pc12@202.6.224.178] has joined #kubuntu === _pc12 [n=pc12@202.6.224.178] has joined #kubuntu === me [n=me@pcp03410875pcs.westk01.tn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:04] hussam: stick with official mirrors [05:05] hussam: the other ubuntu mirrors are not as up to date === TimM [n=none@b-6c.lcom.net] has left #kubuntu [] === Bambi_BOFH [n=Karl@ppp196-238.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:07] nalioth: something's wrong with my network. I can't access security.archive.com 82.211.81.151 times out but 82.211.81.138 works [05:11] hussam: not your network [05:11] hussam: the archive at .151 appears to be having trouble [05:12] nalioth: it times out for you as well? [05:13] hussam: it has been reported in here and #ubuntu for a few hours now [05:13] oh ok [05:13] thanks for that [05:19] nalioth: i had 2 people check and it works for them. could it be working only for some people? [05:20] hussam: that is a possibility, the net is a great interconnected place === Ex-Cyber [n=excyber@24-55-114-40.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === ztonzy [n=ztonzy@blender/artist/ztonzy] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax8-007.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === kakalto [n=kakalto@wired-210-54-56-181.ps.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu === kakalto [n=kakalto@wired-210-54-56-181.ps.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu === pedro [n=pedro@213.Red-83-42-29.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.186.47] has joined #kubuntu [06:04] hi [06:04] hi bla [06:04] ke [06:06] i almost named my dog bambi [06:06] we went with kiwi instead [06:06] lol. [06:06] its an in joke :D [06:07] i must not be 'in' [06:07] no, only about 3 ppl are === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === timothy [n=timothy@dsl-static-206-246-160-14.iquest.net] has joined #kubuntu === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.226.250] has joined #kubuntu === Jeezis [n=roger@pdpc/supporter/student/Jeezis] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.226.250] has joined #kubuntu === Bambi_BOFH is now known as Bambi_essen === chavo [n=chavo@146.sub-70-216-125.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu === zorba64 [n=zorba64@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has joined #kubuntu === _oddball [n=oddball@24-181-95-7.dhcp.dctr.al.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu === _oddball is now known as oddbal_ === oddbal_ is now known as oddball_ === nick01 [n=nick01@home-07031.b.astral.ro] has joined #kubuntu === _nick01 [n=nick01@home-07031.b.astral.ro] has joined #kubuntu [06:57] <_nick01> test [06:57] <_nick01> -nick nick01 [06:58] <_nick01> there is something wrong with the keyboard+ I just installed kubuntu [06:59] <_nick01> works now [06:59] <_nick01> :P [06:59] tests out [07:00] <_nick01> now I can't set the screen resolution higher than 1024x768 :( === _nick01 is now known as nick01 [07:00] can somebody help ? I want 1280x1024 [07:01] !fixres [07:01] [fixres] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto [07:02] I just installed 5.10 preview [07:03] run xorgconfig ? [07:05] now I have a passwword problem ... === Bambi_essen is now known as Kamping_Kaiser === nick01 [n=nick01@home-07031.b.astral.ro] has joined #kubuntu [07:15] I wanna install mc and apt-get sais it can't find it ? [07:15] it's in universe. [07:16] so how do I install it ? [07:16] Candidate: 1:4.6.0-4.6.1-pre1-3ubuntu1 [07:16] enable the universe repo and install it [07:16] k [07:17] how do I enable that repo in kynaptic ? [07:18] I don't use Kynaptic, sorry [07:18] that's what I found in the menu [07:19] (I use Ubuntu generally) [07:19] k- so how do I enable that repo ? [07:19] you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list manually [07:19] k [07:20] uncomment the deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe [07:20] line [07:20] done [07:20] then save and sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install mc [07:21] why did they disable root by default ? [07:21] it's good practice to use the lowest privilege level necessary by default [07:22] anyway- I enabled it [07:22] additionally, sudo provides an audit trail in the system logs [07:25] crimsun: do u have any experience with lirc ? [07:26] only maintenance-wise, so no [07:26] k tks :| [07:27] what is lirc? [07:27] Linux Infrared Remote Control system. [07:28] or light irc [07:28] kalenedrael: yay- so u know how to make it work ? I compiled it configured it for my tv tuner remote and installed it; but kcontrol still sais lirc is not configured correctly :( [07:28] I do not know how to make it work. [07:29] living up to your nick, Kamping_Kaiser ? lol [07:29] k :( [07:29] Sorry... [07:29] lol nalioth === jontiz [n=jontiz@c-14efe253.15-3-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [07:32] xorgconfig doesn't work [07:32] how do I configure the screen resolution ? [07:33] nick01: in a terminal, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and have fun [07:37] how do I install that xorgconfig ? I hate this config tool === zorba64 [n=zorba64@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:40] testing time === zorba64 [n=zorba64@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has left #kubuntu ["I] === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax8-007.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === _paul [n=paul@host86-138-4-246.range86-138.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu === nick01 [n=nick01@home-07031.b.astral.ro] has joined #kubuntu [07:48] how do I install the nvidia drivers ? [07:49] I searched kynaptic and nvidia-common I think it was was already installed - I'm installing all the nvidia packages remaining [07:50] how do I configure it [07:50] ? === Ex-Cyber [n=excyber@24-55-114-40.clspco.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu === alexandros [n=alexandr@63.245.127.206] has joined #kubuntu [07:54] hmm- it's already installed === kakalto [n=kakalto@wired-210-54-56-125.ps.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu === _chavo [n=chavo@146.sub-70-216-125.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [08:20] hi === nalioth_ [n=Apple@cpe-68-201-223-188.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === WMCoolmon [n=WMCoolmo@ip68-6-120-189.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:35] hey, i'm trying to DVD playback working, but the extra repos on ubuntuguide.org aren't working [08:35] WMCoolmon: dont use ubuntuguide, ask ubotu why [08:36] !tell WMCoolmon about restricted [08:39] the backports URL isn't working either [08:40] "deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted" is the line i want to add, right? [08:40] WMCoolmon: are you using hoary or breezy? [08:40] hoary [08:41] i tried upgrading ubuntu to breezy and my system bombed === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [08:42] hence, i figured i'd try instally hoary kubuntu [08:43] the URL you posted above looks correct [08:43] you can compare with this [08:43] !tell WMCoolmon about sources [08:44] gah === WMCoolmon makes a mental note to remember to not forget to apt-get update === mabu [n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === March-RX8 [i=fgjghjgj@host110-237.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [08:56] !tell WMCoolmon about AMD64 [08:56] bah :P [08:56] hello === Kamping_Kaiser is now known as Kaiser_away [08:57] howdy March-RX8 [08:57] cheers nalioth ... thought crossed my mind too. [08:58] its a work PC, so i'll stick it back in the stock and try another... (don't buy HP!!!) [08:58] aftertaf: why are you answering me in here? 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[09:51] March-RX8: i'd advise waiting til oct 13 [09:51] the official release date [09:51] cant i through apt-get? [09:52] or synaptic? [09:52] if you wish to do it now [09:53] !tell March-RX8 about upgrade2breezy [09:54] morning [09:54] yop mornfall :) [09:55] !upgrade2breezy [09:55] The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade [09:56] aftertaf: you on hoary right? [09:56] aftertaf: could you try apt-get source adept? [09:56] yes and no ;) [09:56] hmm [09:56] ok [09:56] on this one yeah... [09:56] i havent yet chrooted this morning ;) === pointwood [n=pointwoo@212.242.222.232] has joined #kubuntu === mornfall finds his hoary shell [09:56] E: Unable to find a source package for ept [09:57] i said ept.... [09:57] hmm right [09:57] i typed adept. [09:57] that's ok [09:57] you don't have the -src line anyway, i guess ;p [09:58] anyway, it works [09:59] some duncan hill was asking about the sources === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === Kaiser_away is now known as Kamping_Kaiser [10:06] duncan hill ? === wincide [n=trax@27.Red-83-40-246.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@pub082136069117.dh-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu [10:14] aftertaf: no idea, mailed me about it [10:14] dpkg-source: extracting ept in ept-0.4.1~hoary1 [10:15] yes i know, i already tried on my system [10:15] hehe === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.9.181] has joined #kubuntu === HasseL [n=jatara@202.149.65.5] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauput1c [n=prospero@wolax9-110.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [10:39] has anyone here ever played around with linux on a toshiba libretto? === Kamping_Kaiser is now known as Kaiser_away === eduardo [n=eduardo@80.Red-83-35-34.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === eduardo [n=eduardo@80.Red-83-35-34.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === zorba64 [n=zorba64@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has joined #kubuntu === yhann [n=yhann@d154-20-117-155.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu === edub [n=eduardo@80.Red-83-35-34.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === Kaiser_away is now known as Kamping_Kaiser === edub [n=eduardo@80.Red-83-35-34.pooles.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === shogo_ [n=nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-69-53.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu === shogo_ [n=nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-69-53.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu [] === zorba64 [n=zorba64@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has left #kubuntu ["I] === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:22] hi to all! [11:23] I am a newby in Ubuntu world and need help. === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has left #kubuntu ["--out"] [11:23] ask away. someone might be able to help [11:23] I usually using Mandrake where root can log in in GUI as everyone. [11:23] said the Kamping_Kaiser [11:24] What about Ubuntu? [11:24] ubuntu no, kubuntu can if poked hard enough [11:25] yhann: for a start you need to reneable the root user account [11:25] after that im not so sure, i can check the mailing list though and see === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:25] it is not advisable to log into a gui as root. it can damage your userspace [11:25] i saw this come up in the last few days [11:25] and yes, what nalioth said :/ [11:26] I try Sudo -i through a terminal but nothing after [11:26] I need to setup my Samba server... [11:26] yhann: no caps in sudo [11:26] ok... [11:27] Riddell: hi, hmm, sanekonsole still stuck? [11:27] But caps or not, I can sign as root on terminal but need set Samba on GUI screen... [11:28] How this root thing work? === mornfall drops a huge stone on Kamping_Kaiser [11:28] What is sanekonsole? === Kamping_Kaiser goes flat [11:28] yhann: forget root, just use kdesu [11:29] mornfail, please be more clear.. [11:29] yhann: surely kde has a utitily to do samba shares in one of its controll centers? [11:29] yhann: kdesu in your terminal [11:29] ok let try [11:30] Kamping_Kaiser: better don't run around telling poor newbies how to log in as root :p === zorba64 [n=zorba64@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:30] !units [11:30] zorba64: I don't know, could you explain it? === zorba64 [n=zorba64@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has left #kubuntu ["I] [11:30] mornfall: he asked ;) [11:30] command samba not found..... [11:30] Kamping_Kaiser: if he asked to be shot, would you? ;) [11:30] yhann: what program are you trying to run dude? [11:30] mornfall: well, that depends if he uses gentoo ;D === mornfall drops another stone on yhann [11:30] Kamping_Kaiser: heh [11:30] samba [11:31] samba config [11:31] yhann: but what program you use to configure samba [11:31] and for the record, i have some good friends who dev on gentoo ;O [11:31] gentoo is lame === NetSkier [n=ns@ca-redbch-cuda1-c3a-199.stmnca.adelphia.net] has joined #KUBUNTU [11:31] listening to In Flames - System [11:32] mornfall, into KDE there is controle center where you can choose samba in admin mode to config... === Kamping_Kaiser has never used gentoo. [11:32] yhann: so what? [11:32] use it ;) === _jj [n=jj@82-70-217-41.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [11:32] He does not let me go in root mode... [11:33] Everytime I put root password it just not let me change anything... === nomeansyes [n=trax@27.Red-83-40-246.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:33] yhann: that's a problem yes... do you want to speak about it? [11:33] *hides* [11:33] yhann: anyway, tried kdesu kcontrol? [11:34] yhann: in a terminal run "sudo kcontroll" [11:34] heh. [11:34] what mornfall quoth [11:34] i used sudo passwd to set root password [11:34] mornfall: yeah, seems to be [11:35] Riddell: damn [11:35] wow...mornfall you are geek! Thanks [11:35] lol [11:36] O.o === mornfall ponders taking out another huge stone === aftertaf [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #kubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser hides [11:36] hey aftertaf [11:36] s/hey/re/ [11:36] rehey :) [11:37] poxy proxy [11:37] all i'm doing is a dist-upgrade to breezy on a new box :D [11:37] mornfall: I spent days to understand how this sudo command works...I === JakubS [n=qba@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === ottie [n=ottie@c-69-181-43-37.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === hussam [n=hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #kubuntu === aftertaf [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauputic drops a 50kg Unix manual on yhann [11:49] :) [11:50] thoreauputic: is that e-book or what????? :)) [11:50] yhann: dead tree :) [11:51] Please theeauputic, I was Windows fan until few months.... === thoreauputic likes the somewhat more relaxed atmosphere in #kubuntu ;) [11:51] Actually, linux world is brand new to me and try to learn and read! [11:51] heh. things a bit busy in #ubuntu atm thoreauputic? [11:51] yhann: yes, well we all have dark secrets we would prefer not to admit ot ;) [11:51] lol. [11:52] like being bsd and system Vs bitch? [11:52] Kamping_Kaiser: the Return of the Bots [11:52] ahh..... === Kamping_Kaiser stays here [11:52] cool.... [11:53] Kamping_Kaiser: actually #ubuntu is now +r again :/ [11:53] :/ ouch [11:53] thoreauputic: +r as in registered? [11:53] right [11:53] +right ;) [11:53] well, probably anti-spam measure [11:53] yes, anti bot [11:53] #ubuntu is a bit more frequented than this one [11:53] blasted bots [11:54] my bot is registered with nickserv ;-) [11:54] lucky they've not found us yet [11:54] screen & ssh is awesome [11:54] heh. === _patrick [n=patrick@62.160.85.25] has joined #kubuntu === ilia [n=ilia@btk-proxy.bol.bg] has joined #kubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser Rs himself === ilia is now known as tilix [11:54] aftertaf: i must be too used to unix ways... what's unusual about ssh or screen? ;-) === tilix [n=ilia@btk-proxy.bol.bg] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [11:54] by the way, I have another question.. [11:54] run sth remotely, and kill the terminal window. then come back to it later:) [11:55] mornfall: i come from a m$ way of life dude... computers just dont DO that type of thing === Kamping_Kaiser should learn screen :$ [11:55] aftertaf: i can barely recall it working differently :p [11:55] m$... what's that? :) [11:55] I have an old cyrix pc and I try /to load Kubuntu ann did'nt work. Any suggestion? === thoreauputic stopped reading the man page for screen after 38 pages ;-) [11:56] cyrix..... hmm debian? [11:56] openbsd? [11:56] thoreauputic: heh only use it for one thing, resume detached process execution. ive known about screen for a week [11:56] aftertaf: actually, i can't recall using MS winders... last time i used them i run fluxbox on it i think ;-) [11:57] aftertaf: was @ school, stupid c++ classes in a room with winders installed [11:57] aftertaf: right - just commenting on the "man page" that was more like a copy of War and Peace ;) [11:57] thoreauputic: tried squid? ;S [11:58] aftertaf: (still, we were supposed to putty/ssh into a MIPS machine with SGI IRIX on it to do the work ;p) [11:58] mornfall: never done IT at school, i'm a languages person. [11:58] Yes or there is any linux distro can work with cyrix? [11:58] cyrix processors? [11:58] aftertaf: i'm not IT person either, more like CS [11:59] yhann: its more that they are so slow afaik [11:59] Yes, cyrix processors [11:59] Yes, but I will use that Pc for downloading or test.. [12:00] mornfall: i did french ;) [12:00] aftertaf: :-) [12:00] aftertaf: i was wondering if i should start a second school :-) [12:00] but i'm sorta short on time, with all those things going on [12:01] yhann: ubuntu will work on cyrix processors (use a lightweight window manager) [12:01] as a teacher or a learner? [12:01] aftertaf: i'm an undergrad student, man [12:01] i got my Ba in french by the skin of my [beep] === mornfall blinks [12:02] i'd want to teach at some point, but suspect i'm a bit young for that :) [12:02] nalioth, which version because I had Kernel panic error with the latest version [12:02] yhann: hmmm, breezy is coming out in 4 weeks [12:03] panic = male virgin in .cz (or .sk) :D [12:04] (read as if n was ň though) [12:04] (slightly OT) [12:04] mornfall, you still cool aftr all! ;) [12:05] yhann: yeah, one could cool his beer on me ;-) [12:05] you how old mornfall ? [12:05] nalioth, Are you sure? How you know it will work? Did you test it? === Kamping_Kaiser places slab on mornfall [12:05] aftertaf: *counting* about 20 i think [12:05] where you guys at anyway? [12:06] Thank you Kamping_Kaiser!!! :)) [12:06] lol mornfall [12:06] $mornfall+10>aftertaf [12:06] aftertaf: Brno, Czech Republic [12:06] yhann: ;) [12:06] yhann: no i have not, i have never owned a cyrix box [12:06] aftertaf: so you are somewhere in 0-30 range eh? ;-) [12:06] top end of range ;) [12:06] 30 2B exact [12:06] aftertaf: given you have a degree, yeah [12:06] ouch :D [12:06] ah [12:07] nalioth: but how you know it will work? [12:07] aftertaf: at least you don't make me feel old ;) === Kamping_Kaiser lols at 'old' geeks [12:07] i have acertain degree of knowledge, thats all.... [12:07] Kamping_Kaiser: you a sprog too? [12:07] yhann: i dont know if it will or not [12:07] ok [12:07] 19, Australia [12:07] yhann: you have a schroedingers cat on your hands [12:07] Kamping_Kaiser: kid ;P [12:07] lol [12:08] yhann: try different kernels, btw [12:08] yhann: maybe a 2.4 one, too [12:08] yhann: (it could as well be mobo not cpu that's the problem, etc) [12:08] Kamping_Kaiser: (not that i'm much older ;p) [12:09] yeh, i noticed :D [12:09] install, see if the processor is dead or not, the act of installing will either kill or not kill the cyrix. [12:09] aftertaf: installs shouldn't kill cpu :p [12:09] the cyrix is in a superstate of both smoking and functional :D [12:10] mornfall: but you dont know until you install... thats the thing with schrdlinger's CPU === mornfall puts a smoking p4 in aftertaf's pocket === aftertaf heatsinks his boxers === mornfall watches the cpu burn through the pocket and fall to ground === Kamping_Kaiser tuts. that p4 is going to need new lungs soon [12:11] ok, ok guys I will try! [12:11] old timer needs to get sustenance..... === mornfall sends that p4 to a transplants clinic === aftertaf foodage time ;) [12:11] FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD [12:11] good idea === Kamping_Kaiser donates p3 [12:11] :o [12:11] pffff old timer christ! 30 y/o === Kamping_Kaiser pats full middle [12:11] :/ [12:11] lmao [12:12] Kamping_Kaiser: interesting discovery... and since you have had an ass? ;-) [12:12] +when [12:12] (you obviously don't have anymore) [12:12] (given't it is now "laughed off") [12:13] :/ === mornfall thinks he'll run to get some groceries [12:13] im reading ubuntu-devel. im not quick enought for those jokes atm ;S [12:13] sorry... ubuntu-devel is serious matter indeed :p [12:14] mornfall: its not funny, htats for sure :P === mornfall hands a handkerchief to Kamping_Kaiser [12:14] keyboards don't like water too much === Kamping_Kaiser wipes arse [12:14] |lart Kamping_Kaiser [12:14] ubotu: lart Kamping_Kaiser === ubotu decapitates Kamping_Kaiser conan the destroyer style === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Karl@ppp196-238.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net] has left #kubuntu ["arlkglakjdfj......"] === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Karl@ppp196-238.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:15] lol [12:15] http://rafb.net/paste/results/J9ffHC23.html [12:16] listening to In Flames - Metaphor [12:16] and, time to really get the groceries or i faint from hunger and WHAT WOULD YOU DO THEN?! :-) [12:16] ignore you? [12:18] lol@ link as well ;D === yhann [n=yhann@d154-20-117-155.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:24] sorry, I will be back! === _yhann [n=yhann@d154-20-117-155.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:33] <_yhann> hello nalioth! [12:33] _yhann: howdy [12:33] back [12:33] <_yhann> Yes and no.. [12:33] <_yhann> This is strange... [12:34] everything is strange [12:34] <_yhann> Actually I tried to switch Irc software (Konversation to X-irc) [12:34] why would anyone switch to anything that's not irssi [12:35] _yhann: something you don't like about konvi? [12:35] _yhann: you shouldnt stay in -unregged [12:35] <_yhann> On X-irc they need me to register my nick but nothing with konversation.. [12:35] _yhann: maybe konvi registers you by itself? :) [12:35] _yhann: or you don't have your nick registered at all? [12:36] <_yhann> Yes, I tried to see channel list but I can not fetch chanel with more than 99 users.. [12:36] _yhann: oh, also, note your nick now starts with underscore [12:36] _yhann: you need to register your nick [12:37] <_yhann> Start with underscore because is alternative if the nick is used [12:37] <_yhann> I am also connect under yhann but directed somewhere else.. [12:38] _yhann: you may join as yhann when you register [12:40] <_yhann> nalioth: why you are so rude? I told you I am newbies in this world....can you be more friendly and polite? [12:40] rude? [12:41] er? [12:41] hyper sensitive yhann? :S [12:41] guess so [12:41] That was amusing [12:44] RogueJediX: not quite === mornfall would drop a huge stone on yhann if he was around === Kamping_Kaiser wonders at mornfalls obsession with large stones === aftertaf_ [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #kubuntu [12:49] Kamping_Kaiser: it's not obsession, it's a obsessive-compulsive disorder! /me runs to find another large stone [12:49] *runs the other way* [12:49] don't you see you insensitive clod! [12:50] :| === mornfall drops a large stone inscribed "sense of humour"... [12:50] hmm, on Kamping_Kaiser too ;-) === aftertaf_ is now known as aftertaf [12:51] Kamping_Kaiser: no worries, joking (all the time) === Kamping_Kaiser tries to prises sence of humour out from under the rock === RogueJediX is allergic to large piles of stone located above him with little or no structural support [12:51] RogueJediX: is the allergy serious? [12:51] i think i've heard of lethal cases === Kamping_Kaiser drops a bucket full of sand onto RogueJediX [12:52] Kamping_Kaiser: DUDE, stop it! i almost sprayed my monitor with water i had in mouth === mornfall giggles [12:52] lol === Kamping_Kaiser watches mornfall wet his monitor [12:53] A bit offtopic: Does anyone know of a good game reviews site that's not loaded with flash content? [12:53] [12:53] RogueJediX: yeah, try microsoft.com [12:54] big entertainment site [12:54] I sincerely doubt they have PS2 games reviews [12:54] you are probably right === mornfall suggests using google === aftertaf recommends playing nothing but supertux [12:55] I'm already on it actually. All I get is stores even if I filter out words like store, buy, etc. [12:56] *installs supertux, and hopes he can run it* [12:56] I've been using Gamespot to read reviews, but I got sick of all the flash and java content [12:56] don't play games, save time! [12:57] Kamping_Kaiser: go tux gooooooo [12:57] beneath a steel sky! [12:57] :) [12:58] All work and no play makes RogueJediX a very nervous dude [12:58] i havent played an fps for 9 months :'( [12:58] and i havent played anything but gnometriss for 6 :S [12:59] i think i spent about an hour playing diablo 2 in the last 6 months [12:59] I spend at least 10 hours weekly playing my PS2 [12:59] eeek. console! [01:00] That, or playing Scourge or Atlantik on my Kubuntu box [01:00] Angband is good too === CaiN_SA [n=cain@rrba-146-76-48.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu [01:01] angaband is cool [01:01] but i never beat it :-) [01:01] i mean, not even in wizard mode :p [01:02] whatis angaband [01:02] aftertaf, [01:02] tell me quick [01:02] why does updatedb run on my pc [01:03] every bloody morning [01:03] cron task? do you reboot? [01:04] it runs because its told to ;) [01:04] ya [01:04] i turn laptop of every evening [01:04] and put it in server room [01:05] CaiN_SA: anacron actually === nomeansyes is now known as wincide [01:08] i like the way i appear to be an expert at certain things........ :D === aftertaf so obviously isn't one... [01:09] aftertaf: shhhh - someone might hear you ;-) [01:09] *unplugs ears* [01:10] hehe thoreauputic :) === aftertaf plays gnometris while waiting for breezt dist-upgrade to arrive [01:11] aftertaf: I now *know* I'm an arrogant clueless n00b because our friend from earlier *told* me so ;-) [01:11] aftertaf: top score? [01:11] lol. yeh thoreauputic you suck ;) === thoreauputic goes to sit in the corner and lick his wounds [01:11] :D [01:12] sucky sucksy. === March-RX8 [i=fgjghjgj@host110-237.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu [01:12] hello [01:12] youz all up yo' ass. === zorba64 [n=zorba64@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:12] er.... sorry :) [01:12] i updated kubuntu to breezy [01:12] hello March-RX8 :) [01:12] thoreauputic: "I" was the arrogant one [01:12] but, where is Mozilla firefox?? === aftertaf is in the process of going breezy... [01:13] nalioth: heheh - lets have a competition ;) [01:13] i cant find it in package list [01:13] March-RX8: now just called firefox [01:14] betchoo R a n00b thoreauputic !!!!!!! not h4x0r like m3 !! === aftertaf looools [01:15] bring out the gimp! === aftertaf rofling all ober the place [01:15] lmao [01:16] havent found anyway === n01 [n=n01@213.155.195.189] has joined #kubuntu [01:17] hi to all [01:17] hi n01 [01:17] it's good! [01:17] someone answered me [01:18] ubuntu is good! [01:18] hi n01 [01:18] and cool [01:18] another one [01:18] it SO is ;) [01:18] ;) [01:18] hi :) [01:18] why u use ubuntu? [01:19] what's the meaning of it? [01:19] it r0x0rz :) [01:19] n01: can u spell apt [01:19] cause is the only linux who run on my ppc [01:19] what's apt? [01:19] ok March-RX8 === Chameleon22 [n=Blah@60-240-232-5-vic-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu [01:20] !apt [01:20] extra, extra, read all about it, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto [01:20] hi Chameleon22 ! [01:20] hi Chameleon22 [01:20] n01: have you been to the ubuntu website? a lot of good info and background [01:21] yes it'true! [01:21] March-RX8: only linux 'that' runs.... 'who' is for people ;) === qbit [i=qbit@66-44-104-181.s689.apx2.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:22] someone tried to install Eclipse? [01:22] thax ubotu ! [01:23] #j eci [01:23] aftertaf i forgot [01:23] oooops... [01:23] i'am not english native [01:23] doesnt matter March-RX8 ... i gathered... it was a friendly grammar tip. :D [01:24] don't worry who's a native english?! [01:25] a lot of people 'have' to speak english and I thinnk you guys do a very good job of it ;) === aftertaf is native english.... [01:25] ooohhh! [01:25] He is lucky, but we too! [01:25] I find that people never want to correct language errors, they worry about upsetting the other person.... but its a way to help you progress in english at the same time, if you are kindly corrected. [01:25] aftertaf: congratulations, old boy - the ashes are once again yours . Jolly good show! [01:26] does australian count as english [01:26] ? [01:26] thoreauputic: yep.... was a good set of matches [01:26] Kamping_Kaiser: never! [01:26] Kamping_Kaiser: not in cricket mate ;) [01:26] i think so! [01:26] aftertaf: yes - a good series indeed [01:26] aftertaf: shut up pig :( [01:26] if u speak usually english [01:26] ... [01:26] Kamping_Kaiser: you bewdy mate! [01:26] lol. g'day ;) [01:27] la la la la la :) [01:27] bah. poms all over :S [01:27] Kamping_Kaiser: howsitgoin? [01:27] hello all [01:27] orritemate'yself? [01:27] hi Chameleon22 [01:27] Kamping_Kaiser: notbadadall thanks === thoreauputic waits for the out-of-tune We are the champppionnns! [01:27] whats up Kamping_Kaiser ? [01:28] naaaH; [01:28] Chameleon22: not a lot. spinning a beatles cd (blasted poms ;D) [01:28] 18 years and we win it once..... have to wait to see if this is consistent [01:28] and discovering someone ehre just won hte ashes :S [01:28] March-RX8: you're running on a PPC? how are you finding breezy ? === Kamping_Kaiser gets over the ashes and moves on === after8 changes subject fastish ;) [01:29] we lost! [01:29] hell is oficially frozen! [01:29] bye guys I must leave! [01:29] Chameleon22: yeh :S [01:29] see ya [01:30] n01: later mate [01:30] after8: you dont want to ask me how i find breezy? [01:30] yeah, but guys...... it was a very good series... even if Oz beat Eng it would have been a stormer for both teams. [01:30] what do u mean after8 ? [01:30] where you from Kamping_Kaiser ? [01:30] nalioth: U R l33t l1nux u$3r :D [01:30] from Tas, in SA (both aust ) === bjecas [n=bjecas@217.129.210.110] has joined #kubuntu [01:30] lol [01:30] me in VIC [01:30] after8: so you only pick on unknown users? [01:30] March-RX8: cos nalioth uses it too, and is happy with each step closer to the stable version..... [01:30] *gasp* [01:31] i dont mind it === after8 not picking on anyone.... [01:31] Kamping_Kaiser, dont gasp, its not your fault you from tazzy [01:31] ;) [01:31] i actually prefer mandriva based systems [01:31] Chameleon22: you share a phone code with the inbreds.... i remember now :P [01:31] ;) [01:31] lol [01:31] but i havent found one working properly on a ppc [01:32] what should i install to move pic from camera to pc? [01:32] March-RX8: yellowdog linux is the furthest you're gonna get to "working properly" on ppc === Kamping_Kaiser looks for tht large stone to drop on March-RX8 [01:32] yellowdog still maintained? [01:32] too many cds to burn [01:32] March-RX8: if you can stand the redhat hell, that is [01:33] March-RX8: there is a dvd image [01:33] yes [01:33] but ibook g3 dont read dvds [01:33] *doesnt [01:33] Kamping_Kaiser: still maintained? hell yes, and they're fixin to start manufacturing their own hardware since apple is abandoning them [01:33] March-RX8: my ibook g3 does [01:33] jeees ok. [01:33] really? [01:33] i thought it died :$ [01:33] my one hav just cd reader [01:34] no dvd drive === aftertaf_ [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #kubuntu [01:34] March-RX8: find a friend with a f/w dvd drive [01:35] i'll keep kubuntu :) === nxv_ [n=nxv_@dsl-084-056-094-107.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser buggers off to get proprietry codecs installed. bbl === aftertaf_ is now known as after8 [01:38] damn proxy de merde! [01:44] nalioth: arent you usually in bed at this time?? [01:44] !backports [01:44] Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list. More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports [01:45] ta [01:45] after8: the war against bots knows no night! [01:48] are other ppl having problems with backports? [01:49] after8: are you trying to get rid of me? [01:50] hehehe [01:50] not at all... === March-RX8 [i=fgjghjgj@host110-237.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has left #kubuntu ["Mi] === G|Patrick [n=opera@dynadsl-080-228-81-250.ewetel.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:51] after8: btw, even tho my nick says _zZz, that doesnt mean anything [01:51] hi === apokryphos [n=dw@host-84-9-34-225.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:52] are there reposotories for amarok 1.3.1? [01:52] !amarok [01:52] I guess amarok is a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/ [01:52] grsstig! [01:52] apokryphos: howdy stranger [01:52] Hey, how's it going? === apokryphos does a dist-upgrade; been some time ;-) [01:54] apokryphos: are you saying breezy whupped ya? [01:54] nalioth: nope -- been on holiday. Just came back; I'm behind. 8) [01:54] apokryphos: ah [01:55] Barcelona. Really amazing time. :) [01:56] apokryphos: what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas [01:56] lol [01:56] 8) [01:56] nalioth: what else has been 'appening here? [01:56] apokryphos: bot swarms [01:57] trolls [01:57] :/ [01:57] usual stuff [01:57] Didn't miss to much then, cool. [01:58] hey, apokryphos ! welcome back :) [01:59] thoreauputic: aloha! How've ya been? [01:59] apokryphos: oh, same ol' same ol' ;-) [02:00] apokryphos: thoreauputic has been terrible while you were gone [02:00] apokryphos: he's been repressing folks right and left [02:01] That dark horse! === MrPoke [n=athul@67.109.209.66.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauputic trims his moustache, curls the ends and leers threateningly === apokryphos shys away in fear [02:02] thoreauputic: definitely works ;-) [02:03] apokryphos: actually of course , I'm innocent as a lamb === thoreauputic sings a little ditty about flowers and spring === _kiki [n=kiki@nor75-15-82-67-190-83.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === _kiki is now known as MrLeChat === MrLeChat [n=kiki@nor75-15-82-67-190-83.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === navyblue [n=navyblue@bb220-255-126-92.singnet.com.sg] has joined #kubuntu === mendred [n=mendred@59.92.43.230] has joined #kubuntu === navyblue [n=navyblue@bb220-255-126-92.singnet.com.sg] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:13] hi i upgraded to breezy a couple of days back.. === ToyMan [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:13] feels good and snappy [02:13] but a couple of problems [02:13] when i plugin my ipod [02:13] it doesn't appear on the desktop [02:13] nemore [02:13] it used to work with hoary [02:14] mendred: breezy is broken until oct 13 [02:14] hokay [02:16] lol [02:16] i love the acceptance [02:16] well..this isn't that big a deal since i can still mount my ipod manually [02:17] Kamping_Kaiser: So i am not protesting :) [02:17] :) cool [02:26] mendr [02:26] oops === CaiN_SA [n=cain@rrba-146-76-48.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu === dominik [n=dominik@p54AE064E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [02:29] hi === dominik is now known as |exec| [02:32] hi === obsrv [n=obsrv@77-18-149.elekta.lt] has joined #kubuntu === obsrv [n=obsrv@77-18-149.elekta.lt] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === zAo^ [n=zao@zAo.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu === hiasl [n=georg@213-229-63-86.static.adsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu [02:46] hi! somebody know a program for kde similar to the update-notifier? [02:47] bye... :( === G|Patrick [n=opera@dynadsl-080-228-81-250.ewetel.net] has left #kubuntu [] === nazon_ [n=nazon@bnk185.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === chavo [n=chavo@146.sub-70-216-125.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu === faked [n=faked@83-65-235-238.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #kubuntu === __Ace__ [n=love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #kubuntu === chutu [n=chutu@e178127168.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu [02:54] new day, new "hello all :-)" [02:54] dapper drake :o this will own [02:55] I have a question about TCP/IP [02:55] When I send packages than there are timestamps in it [02:55] What this timestamps mean? === kairu0 [n=kairu@YahooBB219201195046.bbtec.net] has joined #kubuntu === chavo [n=chavo@146.sub-70-216-125.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:56] ARE there GMT Or what? [02:56] not sure. local time i expect [02:56] Or is it about synchronisation [02:56] between to nodes === helpme [n=yasser@59.93.254.169] has joined #kubuntu [02:57] *shrug* [02:57] anyone knows how to use scrapbook ext in firefox? [02:58] and /or time to live? === qbit [i=qbit@66-44-104-181.s689.apx2.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com] has left #kubuntu [] [03:01] no TCP/IP eperts here? Can someone give me a good address to ask such question? [03:01] try looking for orialys book ;) thats probably able to explain all [03:01] hmm, good idea! [03:02] oreilly [03:03] thanks drasch :) [03:03] Kamping_Kaiser: i realize spelling is optional in IRC, but it makes it much easier to google :) [03:04] yeh, i couldnt remember how it was spelled :) === apokryphos [n=dw@host-84-9-34-225.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === CaiN_SA [n=cain@rrba-146-76-48.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu === BlankB [n=blank@ppp-67-67-192-210.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:08] here to the one who is interessting in: [03:08] http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/tcp/option008.htm [03:16] but I dont understand where the timestamps comming from [03:16] there must be a source === setite [n=setite@ip68-108-160-170.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === incubii [n=incubii@cor14-ppp1688.hay.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [03:17] what are the repos to update kde or kubuntu desktop [03:17] !kde342 [03:17] from memory, kde342 is at http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php [03:19] are those only 32bit? [03:19] W: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/kubuntu.org_hoary-kde342_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) [03:19] W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/bolugftp.uni-bonn.de_pub_kde_stable_3.4.2_kubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) [03:19] W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.mirrorservice.org hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.mirrorservice.org_sites_ftp.kde.org_pub_kde_stable_3.4.2_kubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) [03:19] W: Couldn't stat source package list http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu hoary-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.cc.columbia.edu_pub_software_kde_stable_3.4.2_kubuntu_dists_hoary-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) [03:19] dont do that again setite === mode/#kubuntu [+o apokryphos] by ChanServ === mode/#kubuntu [-b %setite!*@*] by apokryphos === mode/#kubuntu [+b %setite!*@*] by apokryphos [03:20] dam these commands ;-) [03:21] lol. === mode/#kubuntu [-o apokryphos] by apokryphos [03:21] setite: when pasting use pastebin === apokryphos [n=dw@host-84-9-34-225.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:27] !gmplayer [03:27] Wish i knew, Kamping_Kaiser [03:27] m. [03:27] !mplayer [03:27] I guess mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto. For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061 === JakubS [n=qba@ain131.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu === trog|odyt [n=user@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauput1c [n=prospero@wolax7-052.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu === Raptoid [n=raptoid@81.213.131.168] has joined #kubuntu === thoreauput1c is now known as thoreauputic === incubii [n=incubii@cor9-ppp1848.hay.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === alexandros [n=alexandr@63.245.127.206] has joined #kubuntu === nomeansyes [n=trax@27.Red-83-40-246.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D0A8C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [04:01] mornfall: hey, you here? [04:02] apokryphos: here [04:02] sup? [04:02] mornfall: Hi :). Just checked adept beta2.. first thing I noticed: should package info etc expand upon click? Doesn't seem like the expected behaviour [04:02] apokryphos: i bet they updated the packet once i started d/ling [04:03] could be [04:03] apokryphos: yeah, too many people cried they want it [04:03] oh :/ === eolo [n=eolo@d83-176-71-18.cust.tele2.it] has joined #kubuntu [04:03] one thing mornfall .... can't you have it showing list of files and where it installs, like synaptic (sorry for swearing!!) === ztonzy [n=ztonzy@blender/artist/ztonzy] has joined #kubuntu [04:09] after8: file a wishlist, but not in 1.0 [04:10] apokryphos: i'll think about the default behaviour, but most users seem to be happy about open-on-click [04:10] mornfall: it's better to please the masses, if that's what they want, probably. [04:11] but masses suck, all the same [04:11] bye all === mikl [n=mikkel@pdpc/supporter/active/mikl] has joined #Kubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=Karl@ppp196-238.lns1.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #kubuntu === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@179-244-118-80.kaptech.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:18] lu* [04:18] o_0 [04:29] anyone have suggestions on where to look for the two OSD's showing up when changing volume on my thinkpad in Kubuntu Breezy (wasn't happening in Hoary) === Borg^Queen [n=arklinux@h-68-164-201-12.nycmny83.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu === after8 [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #kubuntu [04:30] Hi people I'm trying to find the faq url for ubuntu. Does anyone know it? I've been to the site but I can't find a link. [04:31] Borg^Queen: did you even google? === AnHu [n=anton@mnch-d9ba4518.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:32] apokryphos: I think we have been through this before. I always google before I ask. [04:32] You have a short memory don't you. [04:33] I'm sorry if I don't reach the presumption of Google not working === fluffybunny_ [i=k3npd7bh@nat-gw.nbn.ac.za] has joined #kubuntu [04:33] my memory is generally ok, but if you hanged around in IRC at all you'd know hundreds pass through everyday; evidently, I'm not going to remember every conversation with each person [04:34] i hav ejust installed KDE, and am playing with all the new applets, etc --> the removable media applet has no option for usb drives, and nothing pops up when I plug my drive in... help? [04:34] I think you would remember that one. You were very rude. [04:34] I certainly remember it. [04:34] fluffybunny_: does it work if you mount it manually? [04:34] Borg^Queen: I remember your name, but no recollection of any conversation we had. Don't take it personally. [04:35] I don't. I just don't like repeating steps. [04:35] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/faqfolder_view === shogouki [n=nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-33-225.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [04:36] apokryphos: i can mount in in a terminal window... if thats what you mean [04:38] Kind of wondering how you'd miss that if you "googled". You're meant to type keywords in a search engine; hence, ubuntu faq in this scenario. And alas! First link. [04:38] That's not the faq I was looking for. [04:39] It if had been the simple, I wouldn't have asked. [04:39] My time is being wasted here. [04:39] Borg^Queen: yes it is [04:39] i wonder why [04:39] Borg^Queen: you aren't being terribly clear then, sorry [04:39] because you cant ask the question right [04:39] Nah, its the day people === Borg^Queen [n=arklinux@h-68-164-201-12.nycmny83.dynamic.covad.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:39] Borg^Queen: what did you *actually* mean ? === apokryphos sighs [04:40] she left [04:40] lol. you think fluffybunny_ ? ;) [04:40] heh - another one who blames others for their own vagueness [04:41] i know what its like to get frustrated, but bite your tongue, in my opinion, when you are asking for help, don't you think? [04:41] Kamping_Kaiser: ;) === apokryphos nods [04:41] Some people have the preconception that they can demand help in some way [04:41] apokryphos: "I want the FAQ - but not *that* FAQ!" <---- telepathy failure on our part I guess [04:41] and that if you fail to please them, then you should be damned! =) [04:41] so... cheesy grin, can anyone help with my issues? usb automounting, that is ... [04:42] apokryphos: its more that people think they asked the right question and dont understand why these idiots cant find it for them ;) [04:42] thoreauputic: gotta adjust my telepathic antennas, definitely. === NSK [n=wikinerd@unaffiliated/nsk] has joined #kubuntu [04:42] fluffybunny_: lol [04:42] heh [04:43] fluffybunny_: im afraid i cant. i dont use kde [04:43] i'm thinking of a problem.... guess... [04:43] apokryphos: dpkg-reconfigure psychic-bot-recall [04:43] ;) [04:43] lol [04:43] fluffybunny_: apologies, I know little about HAL and how media ioslave works in general. :/ === shogouki [n=nicolas@AMontpellier-251-1-33-225.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu [] [04:43] thoreauputic: doesn't work... === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@178.248.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:43] hallo all! [04:43] hello [04:43] Ah, I need to sudo :P [04:44] hi [04:44] fluffybunny_: I don't know the problem, but the answer is 42 [04:44] apokryphos: no more HAL errors since I switched to KDE this morning, just that my usb doesn't automount [04:44] ;) === ubuntu is now known as papercarbon [04:44] fluffybunny_: what kde version are you on? [04:44] thoreauputic: yellow... [04:44] Someone can tell me how to add fluxbox to kdm session options? [04:44] Hi folks, I need help [04:44] apokryphos: how would I check version? [04:44] eolo: have you installed fluxbox? === ToyMan [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:45] yes kamping [04:45] papercarbon: ask then, dont just anounce it :D [04:45] fluffybunny_: if you're in konversation, type something like /exec kdeversion now :P, if not: kde-config --version ...in konsole [04:46] Kamping??? === papercarbon [n=ubuntu@178.248.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:46] eolo: thoreauputic is probably the one you want to ask, but I'd guess you need to add a fluxbox.desktop entry [04:47] problem is I use gdm, so the entries for kdm I don't know... [04:47] mmm. all i know is you have to hack something :/ [04:47] apokryphos: KDE 3.4.0 [04:47] but .desktop is not only a "show icon" matter [04:47] eolo: if it's the ubuntu package of fluxbox, it should add an entry [04:47] fluffybunny_: are you on i386? [04:47] ?? [04:47] what? [04:48] eolo: what? [04:48] it's not the ubuntu package, it' 0.9.13 the last stable [04:48] apokryphos: i586 (I think: Pentium Celeron 2.6 Ghz) [04:48] eolo: did you restart X? Not sure if you'd have to. If not, we can just create a .desktop entry easily [04:48] how [04:48] fluffybunny_: ok -- go for kde 3.4.2 [04:49] eolo: so you compiled it, right? And you want an entry - what about using ~/,xsession and choosing the default system session ? [04:49] apokryphos: but i just downloaded the latest available version from the package manager? [04:49] !kde342 [04:49] well, kde342 is at http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde-342.php [04:49] check that =) [04:50] eolo: one sec [04:50] apokryphos: I am worried that it may not be KDE - I may have broken something (I was playin around with my boot sequences... i think i messed up) [04:50] i opened xsession but i'm not shure of what to do [04:50] fluffybunny_: :/ [04:50] eolo: for gdm the directory for entries is /usr/share/xsessions, but for kdm I don't know... === darkspirit [n=darkspir@adsl-13-119-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #kubuntu [04:50] eolo: dot xsession ( ~/.xsession) === darkspirit is now known as dark_spirit [04:51] thoreauputic: I don't think you can use that, actually. KDM is systemwide [04:51] ok found kde.desktop [04:51] eolo: all you actually need in .xsession is the word "startfluxbox" (without quotes) [04:51] it's enough i add fluxbox.desktop? [04:51] apokryphos: it doesn't respect .xsession? === after8 [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #kubuntu [04:51] eolo: no that doesn't do it [04:51] thoreauputic: I mean, that wouldn't put it in the kdm listing, I don't think. [04:52] oh, that other way, it could work. Not sure. [04:52] apokryphos: right - but the default session doesn't exist? I think it does [04:52] ok i found /usr/share/xsessions [04:52] eolo: If that works for kdm, use an existing file as a temlate [04:53] *template [04:53] are kubuntu repositories different from the standard? [04:53] fluffybunny_: generaly no [04:53] exept theres a few extras [04:53] and call startfluxbox from the exec line [04:53] ok i'll try for some minutes and be back, thanks thoreauputic [04:53] for that recent one (x.x.2) [04:53] fluffybunny_: nope, but the kde 3.4.2 was. In future I think kde updates will be in backports [04:53] eolo: OK - good luck then [04:54] apokryphos: cool, thanks - updating now [04:55] !i386 [04:55] fluffybunny_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? === thoreauputic is waiting for eolo to report that fluxbox is slow because of the --disable-xmb bug :| [04:57] this room is konsiderably quieter than #ubuntu [04:57] fluffybunny_: 95 here, 400 in #ubuntu [04:57] thoreauputic: yes, i see... [04:58] so, while i am waiting for KDE to update - how do I small my desktop icons smaller? [04:58] lol [04:58] fluffybunny_: indeed. There's several reasons :P [04:58] this is a nice place to get one's sanity back after hours of battling bots and trolls ;) [04:58] fluffybunny_: small your desktop icons? === papercarbon [n=ubuntu@178.248.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:58] apokryphos: doh! too ... much.... computer.... [04:59] apokryphos: make my icon smaller, i meant ;) [04:59] fluffybunny_: kcontrol -- can alter icon-size from there [04:59] apokryphos: aha! [04:59] * News flash! New verb -- "to small" ! nice coinage ! :D [05:01] thoreauputic: thanks... i pride myself on the misuse and abuse of the english language [05:01] fluffybunny_: you are a true believer! " konsiderably " is clearly the KDE version [05:02] :) [05:03] lol [05:03] "i pride myself on the misuse and abuse of the english language" your on irc damit ;) === Chousuke abuses english only intentionally. === thoreauputic decides to speel and gramer chick every wurd frum now on [05:04] You know, verbing nouns and the like. === apokryphos pretends unintentional misuses are intentional 8) [05:04] thoreauputic: I could actually do that :P [05:05] :)) [05:05] kwite [05:05] ;) [05:05] every mac application is able to use the built-in spell checker. [05:05] fluffybunny_ is kwik and kunning [05:05] which is slightly annoying if I'm talking colloquial Finnish :P [05:06] lol [05:06] the iKnow ;) [05:06] colloquial English doesn't really break spell checkers, but with finnish the spell checker fails every time :( [05:07] use a real language :P [05:07] assembly :D [05:07] Chousuke: English spell checkers break English, in my experience :) [05:08] Perhaps. [05:08] thoreauputic: thats because your always using the wrong english for the job :) [05:08] Grammar checkers are hilarious... [05:08] thats the problem with it [05:08] thoreauputic: grammar checkers fail i. [05:09] it* even [05:09] Kamping_Kaiser: Sir, I have an Honour Degree in English Literature :) [05:09] Honours even... *G* [05:09] thoreauputic: isn't that Honours? [05:09] i just finished school ;P [05:09] indeed [05:09] hehe === Chousuke Isn't even studying English anymore :p [05:09] I also have the worst typing technique in the known Universe [05:09] Chousuke: niether :P [05:10] Still it feels like I use English more than Finnish. [05:10] Weird, considering I live in Finland. === apokryphos reads old English novels 8) === fluffybunny_ reads science fiction === fluffybunny_ also reads fantasy [05:12] apokryphos: Even Middle English, as I know :) === fluffybunny_ feels like a kliche [05:12] thoreauputic: haven't for some time =) [05:12] fluffybunny_: a kute kliche with fluffy bits ? [05:14] Old English is fuxed. [05:15] thoreauputic: yea and verily [05:15] It has some things in common with Finnish. [05:15] Except its pronunciation seems to be nicely inconsistent. === eolo [n=eolo@d83-176-71-18.cust.tele2.it] has joined #kubuntu [05:16] back again! [05:16] eolo: any luck? [05:16] Didn't worked [05:16] hmm [05:16] eolo: you used /usr/share/xsessions ? [05:17] eolo: I think the kdm config must use something else [05:17] i've to understand the architecture: where kdm go to look for xsessions type to display them on graphical login options? [05:17] sorry for my english [05:18] eolo: you'll have to dig I fear - I know only gdm for this [05:18] tell me about gdm [05:18] eolo: I found out the hard way [05:18] hard!! [05:18] ?? [05:18] i don't understand. [05:18] eolo: gdm uses the directory I mentioned [05:18] eolo: hard = difficult [05:19] and what he does? [05:19] tell me the hard way [05:19] eolo: gdm? It's the gnome login screen [05:20] noooooooo...... my kustom panel disappeared with my upgrade... oh well, more fun playing with applets [05:20] if you want to use kdm you'll have to find the directory where it hides its config for logins [05:20] i try surfing web.... === Will_ [i=9010@quake.swe.net] has joined #kubuntu === mendred [n=mendred@59.92.41.52] has joined #kubuntu === mode/#kubuntu [+o apokryphos] by ChanServ === mode/#kubuntu [-b %setite!*@*] by apokryphos === mode/#kubuntu [-o apokryphos] by apokryphos [05:26] ooo, not good: klicked on konqueror, klicked removable media: An error occurred while loading media:/: ---> Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: ---> klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_media'. === Will_ [i=9010@quake.swe.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:28] where is the Kmenu icon located? [05:29] zAo^: who, me? [05:30] ehh, to everyone :) [05:30] uhm... bottom left? [05:30] i am going to reboot, see if that fixes m y removable storage issues === fluffybunny_ [i=k3npd7bh@nat-gw.nbn.ac.za] has left #kubuntu [] [05:30] duhh :) I mean the icon itself; need to replace it :) === spiral [n=spiral@laf31-2-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === Sputn1k [i=juzmjk@ip-195-14-191-72.bnk.lt] has joined #kubuntu [05:31] i expect /usr/ somewhere, but ask a geek wehre exactly :( [05:31] hi [05:31] hi [05:31] how to fix this error? http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/524/nuotrauka38xh.png [05:32] zAo^: somewhere like /usr/share/icons I expect [05:32] thanks thoreauputic ;) [05:32] Kamping_Kaiser: not that I'm a geek ;-) [05:33] lol. of course not :) === thoreauputic is in denial [05:33] :D [05:33] :) [05:34] ha someone an idea how I can do websites migration from IIS to apache? === Kamping_Kaiser books thoreauputic in for some thorapy :P [05:34] with php and mysql? [05:34] scp should do the pages :) === Aapzak [n=aapzak@ip44-163-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl] has joined #kubuntu [05:34] Kamping_Kaiser: too late - my therapist says I'm nuts ;-) [05:34] lol. [05:35] blackflag: i dont know about the details of MySQL and IIS, so i cant give any good help [05:35] Kamping_Kaiser: of course, he has a severe perceptual disorder ;) [05:36] but you have an idea between IIS and apache? === fluffybunny_ [i=140wz73h@nat-gw.nbn.ac.za] has joined #kubuntu [05:36] ;) of course. but i hate to break it to you - the walls realy are not purple [05:36] blackflag: yeh, ones opensource. what do you need to know as such? what are you moving? how many sites? pages? [05:37] ok, so i've rebooted, and I can klick on removable storage in konqueror but alas, woe is me - no usb drive... === Kamping_Kaiser comforts fluffybunny_ === fluffybunny_ sniffs [05:37] only 10 websites including forums (phpbb) === fluffybunny_ is glad for the comfort === fluffybunny_ thinks she will never mess around with init.d or boot scripts again [05:38] :( [05:38] blackflag: i have no deep undertanding of the stuff involved, but i dont see why it cant be done with a few striat forward steps... then some panic when it breaks :) [05:38] :-) === Kamping_Kaiser twigs fluffybunny_ isnt your avarage geek [05:38] :D === fluffybunny_ doesn't konsider herself a geek at all [05:39] lol. your nto a geek, and niether is thoreauputic :P === fluffybunny_ was tricked into trying linux "cause its really not as hard as you think..." bah!!! === edinho [n=edinho@201008176118.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu [05:39] lmao [05:40] you can go back to sucking satans cock fi you want ;D [05:40] fluffybunny_: hahah - ah, but you will be a learned guru before you know it! === fluffybunny_ is beginning to hate all OS's... windblows and linsux... === Kamping_Kaiser hands fluffybunny_ openbsd === fluffybunny_ sighs in resignation... [05:40] learn to realy hate :) === fluffybunny_ has been told (by the same linux person) --> "try gentoo, its easy"... i think not!!! [05:41] use gnome ;) === fluffybunny_ thinks it may as well be LFS [05:41] lol. fluffybunny_ [05:41] no, lfs is worse [05:41] Kamping_Kaiser: i broke gnome [05:41] no package management at all :D [05:41] :o your evil === Kamping_Kaiser gets super glue === fluffybunny_ thinks superglue won't work... she's tried superglue, and it works temporarily, but she can't get it to work permanently [05:43] thoreauputic: where does one edit the logout system so when you exit a sudo -s it runs sudo -k? [05:43] :/ duct tape? [05:43] say, what is an "average geek" anyway? [05:43] Kamping_Kaiser: I haven't the faintest idea [05:43] male [05:43] thoreauputic: :/ useless :P [05:43] Kamping_Kaiser: ah... yes, there is a dearth of geekesses... [05:44] heh [05:44] Kamping_Kaiser: I wouldn't want anyone thinking I was a geek ;-0 [05:44] :) === zAo^ [n=zao@zAo.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu [05:45] so... no takers on the usb problem? no-one out there up for a challenge? where are all the hardcore linux power users to help a fluffy bunny? [05:45] fluffybunny_: i havent *used* kde for about 18 months. [05:45] that was mandrake 9.2 === Kamping_Kaiser should familiarise himself with kde ubuntu style === fluffybunny_ wonders then why Kamping_Kaiser is in #kubuntu and not #ubuntu? [05:46] fluffybunny_: *real* hardcore powerusers don't use USB - they use punch cards and teletypes ;) [05:46] becaues they dont need more help in #ubuntu. and im usualy kamping there as well :) [05:46] lol === Kamping_Kaiser cancels order for parralel port interface ;P [05:47] :) [05:47] oh crap. another 113m of updates :/ === thoreauputic staggers over to his PDP-11 with his walking frame [05:47] i'm going to nip into #ubuntu and see if they can help there... [05:47] *shuts down mirror and goes to bed* [05:47] lol [05:47] fluffybunny_: good luck , but warning [05:48] ? [05:48] you may be flamed for using kde in #ubuntu [05:48] hmmm, how to get help without mentioning kde... [05:48] fluffybunny_: give it a try. [05:48] its just sometimes people are having a bad day :/ [05:48] Heh, nah, you'll be alright. Easy to combat them ;-) [05:48] Kamping_Kaiser: no just the revolving door *ask in #kubuntu* [05:49] just as im having a bad 1:20 am [05:49] thoreauputic: yeh, that as well [05:49] yes, thats how i wound up here in the first place... [05:49] fluffybunny_: which problem? === sroux [n=sroux@LNeuilly-152-22-77-10.w193-251.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [05:49] apokryphos: no automount [05:49] if you're talking about the autodetection, #kde is probably better [05:50] #kubuntu is the best of course, in theory; but if no-one here can help.. [05:50] lol. revolving door anyone ;) [05:50] ok... [05:51] night loves ;P === Kamping_Kaiser l33t sl33pzors === [ITA] MisterX [n=casadio@host79-129.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === dw7 [n=dw@host-84-9-34-225.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === Budda^windoze [n=Budda_wi@p54ABF2E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === vicks [n=chatzill@c83-248-59-130.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu [05:57] does someone know if its possible to change the kdm background from the console? === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D282C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [06:00] fluffybunny_: is the HAL daemon running? [06:05] apokryphos: i'm not sure --> i keep getting HAL! failed to initialise when I log into Gnome, no such error on kde... [06:05] hm [06:05] fluffybunny_: can you pastebin the output of ps aux|grep hal ? [06:06] Question: who was the greater genius, BAch or Mozart ? === thoreauputic waits for the off-topic kick === thanish [n=thanish@219.95.45.213] has joined #kubuntu [06:07] hi frens [06:08] apokryphos: hal 8186 0.1 2.4 7360 5860 ? Ss 17:34 0:02 /usr/sbin/hald --drop-privileges [06:08] apokryphos: amanda 9741 0.0 0.2 2952 588 pts/1 S+ 18:07 0:00 grep hal === thoreauputic drops a 50kg Unix manual on fluffybunny_ [06:08] current;y using kubuntu.... but want to switch to gnome... how to do it frens?? [06:08] hey~! it was only two lines!! [06:08] fluffybunny_: hey - Ihave to use my custom lart now and again! *grin* [06:09] current;y using kubuntu.... but want to switch to gnome... how to do it frens?? [06:09] :) [06:09] fluffybunny_: nothing else? [06:09] offtopic: can you create custom commands like that in gaim? [06:10] apokryphos: nothing else - unless I should have sudo'ed it? [06:10] nope [06:10] Still, looks like it is running. Are you on hoary? [06:10] apokryphos: yes === eggi_ [n=einstein@dsl-084-059-213-250.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === fluffybunny_ is off to nibble some carrots ... back later... === fluffybunny_ is going to reboot as well as get supper - back soon(ish) === fluffybunny_ [i=140wz73h@nat-gw.nbn.ac.za] has left #kubuntu [] === transgre1s [i=transgre@71.14.20.160] has joined #kubuntu [06:21] argh....everytime i try to start kde it says that dcopserver isnt running even when i run it before starting kdm its closed after the error msg [06:21] anyone got a solution? === _david [n=david@83-216-133-209.davidr126.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === [ITA] MisterX is away: away === [ITA] MisterX is now known as [ITA] MisterX|Awa === _david is now known as ricey === ricey is now known as ricey_uk === rakel [n=rakel@159.red-82-158-95.user.auna.net] has joined #kubuntu === eolo [n=eolo@d83-176-71-18.cust.tele2.it] has joined #kubuntu === rakel is now known as foca [06:33] OK guys i did it!!! [06:33] and it was very easy === _darkspirit [n=darkspir@adsl-36-28-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #kubuntu [06:34] cool =) [06:34] seems to me like GNOME are quite involved with producing bounties for things [06:34] you want to know? [06:34] some real interesting ones for SoC [06:35] eolo: sure === apokryphos tries to remember the exact problem === foca is now known as _rakel === jdef [n=jdef@cuscon6484.tstt.net.tt] has joined #kubuntu [06:36] kde3 has a list of available sessions in /usr/share/apps/kdm/sessions === _rakel is now known as foca [06:37] you have just to check your wm exists and modify the exec path in (your_win_manager).desktop === BlankB [n=blank@ppp-67-67-192-210.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:37] kdm checks for availability of that executable and if it exists it put an entry in session menu of kdm [06:38] not so clear? [06:38] ok, I see. [06:39] my problem was that my executable was in /usr/local/bin [06:39] not in /usr/share/bin [06:39] now I FLUX [06:40] nassss [06:40] any idea on why i can't authenticate correctly to my exchange server w/ evolution since i did an apt-get dist-upgrade from hoary to breezy? === Raptoid [n=raptoid@81.213.131.168] has joined #kubuntu [06:42] I just installed kubuntu preview works beautifully how different will the final version be. === fluffybunny_ [i=zrau6gdj@nat-gw.nbn.ac.za] has joined #kubuntu [06:43] jdef: bugfixes and polishing [06:43] I think === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.187.47] has joined #kubuntu [06:44] how do I open the control panel again? [06:44] fluffybunny_: kcontrol === mabu [n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #kubuntu [06:44] fluffybunny_: from a terminal that is... [06:44] thoreauputic: thanks [06:45] fluffybunny_: that's kwite alright ;) [06:45] thoreauputic: 'kay... [06:45] kwah? === fluffybunny_ still has no luck with usb/hal === aseigo [n=aseigo@kde/aseigo] has joined #kubuntu === hetzz_ [n=hetzz@c83-250-9-103.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu === wizzard [n=wizzard@chello085216170248.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu [07:01] aseigo: I was wondering if you use Skype over artsd and if you experience lots of delay? === fluffybunny_ [i=zrau6gdj@nat-gw.nbn.ac.za] has left #kubuntu [] [07:02] oh, aseigo hi o/ === buz [n=buz@80-218-105-74.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu === hon [n=hon@gazor3.ece.queensu.ca] has joined #kubuntu [07:02] i there got a question [07:03] why do i see the following in top: Mem: 906660k total, [07:03] when i have 1024mb and NOT shared video? [07:03] maybe mB/MB conversion? [07:04] cant be it [07:04] maybe some memory is in use by kernel? [07:04] buz: because you are using a 386 kernel [07:04] ram, unlike hd, uses real MB [07:04] thoreauputic: so using a 686 should help? [07:04] buz: you need a 686 kernel or amd equivakent [07:04] aaaaaaaaaaaah [07:04] yes [07:04] interesting :) === libbar [n=libbar@227.59.broadband2.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu [07:04] i'll go install a k7 one then ;) [07:04] (theorteitcally, this is amd64 anyhow but i dont want that trouble right now) [07:05] 386 has a limit of ~~ 900MB [07:05] ok [07:05] that would explain it then [07:05] apt-cache serch linux-image [07:05] *search [07:05] i know how to use synaptic thanks ;) [07:05] but *don't* use 2.6.11 [07:05] OK [07:05] i hope we get .14 in breezy [07:05] i wanna use fuse === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu [07:06] 2.6.12 in breezy I think === apokryphos nods [07:07] I am going to try breezy guys. do you suggest the latest snapshot dvd or the preview live cd? [07:07] but no fuse in .12 right? === KWizzard [n=wizzard@chello085216170248.chello.sk] has joined #kubuntu [07:08] hon: you're on hoary currently? [07:08] dvd will give you the option to install, as well; so if you want that... [07:08] I am using hoary now [07:08] you can do a straight apt-get to upgrade, but if you want to take a look at things then the LiveCD is great for that, sure. === _nyn_ [n=_nyn_@212.194.109.246] has joined #kubuntu === alexandros [n=alexandr@63.245.119.12] has joined #kubuntu [07:10] which one is better at this moment: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/ [07:10] or the preview? [07:10] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/current/ is for Sept 12 [07:11] and the preview is a few days older [07:11] now I am not sure which one to try === PrideF [n=PrideF@192.108.102.115] has joined #kubuntu === hetzz_ is now known as hetzz [07:14] hon: preview would be my pick [07:14] why? [07:15] I mean did they break anything after the preview? ;) [07:15] mhh 1gb ram now [07:15] still need more [07:15] *digsthruhardwarepile* [07:16] damn no pc3200 ddr left [07:16] only pc2700 === hon [n=hon@gazor3.ece.queensu.ca] has joined #kubuntu === smux [n=smux@home.mescaline.fr] has joined #kubuntu === libben [n=libben@c80-216-84-228.cm-upc.chello.se] has joined #kubuntu === spiral [n=spiral@laf31-2-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === nomeansyes [n=trax@27.Red-83-40-246.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === nomeansyes is now known as wincide === Sith_Tux [n=normie@alr-bw-3563d.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu [07:32] how can i reconfigure my lcd screen? === author_psi [n=author@p509051B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [07:37] hi guys [07:37] lo [07:39] Sith_Tux: you probably mean reconfigure your x -- you can use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg === hetzz_ [n=hetzz@c83-250-9-103.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu === alexandros [n=alexandr@63.245.119.12] has joined #kubuntu === alexandros [n=alexandr@63.245.119.12] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] === alexandros [n=alexandr@63.245.119.12] has joined #kubuntu === christian [n=christia@ACB4E533.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu [07:48] habe Frage zu Operainstallation [07:48] christian: german irc-channel: #kubuntu-de === thomas [n=thomas@pD9515126.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [07:50] hello === author_psi is now known as author_afk === thomas [n=thomas@pD9515126.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu [07:52] can I use my own splashscreen in breezy? === dutch [n=dutch@cpe-065-190-182-028.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === hetzz_ is now known as hetzz [08:05] have u tried? [08:06] the splashscreen? [08:06] yeah [08:07] it is in breezy, the package usplash === Somez [n=somez@dsl51B66012.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu [08:15] Is anyone running breezy yet? [08:15] thomas: already tried Kfind [08:15] RogueJediX: yes [08:15] How's Kaffeine? Is it fixed? === Somez [n=somez@dsl51B66012.pool.t-online.hu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === _kkathman [n=kkathman@h-66-167-142-168.dllatx37.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #kubuntu === johan [n=johan@c-4a86e055.441-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu [08:16] RogueJediX: hm don't know, haven't tried yet === johan is now known as johlin [08:16] hey guys! got kubuntu installed now [08:16] one problem though [08:16] RogueJediX: but there was a fixed package for hoary too === Edulix [n=edulix@80-103-120-176.mad1.adsl.uni2.es] has joined #kubuntu [08:17] I can't open package manager, it says wrong password, but I enter the right one (I can do root commands via su with that password) [08:17] Really? Must've missed it [08:17] and when starting kynaptic, I get this error: [08:18] root@johan:/home/johan # kynaptic [08:18] Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server [08:18] Xlib: No protocol specified [08:18] kynaptic: cannot connect to X server :0.0 [08:18] RogueJediX: it was part of the kde 3.4.2 or 3.4.1 backports [08:18] It must be 3.4.1 backports then, because I'm running 3.4.2 and it's still giving me lip [08:19] Noatun isn't bad, though I really prefer Kaffeine === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.9.181] has joined #kubuntu [08:26] johlin: Your problem is with the X server. [08:27] You can work around this by opening up your x security before you su to root. [08:27] johlin: 'xhost local:root' BEFORE you su or sudo to root. [08:29] oh well; guess you are gone. === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.9.181] has joined #kubuntu === alexandros [n=alexandr@63.245.125.91] has joined #kubuntu === author_afk [n=author@p509051B8.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [08:42] NetSkier: Why should I do that? Just curious. Will that command make the package manager always work, or just temporary? === blackflag [n=stefan@p54ABCD91.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu === The_Vox [n=vox@201.130.66.76] has joined #kubuntu === hetzz_ [n=hetzz@c83-250-9-103.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu === pc22 [n=pc22@222.126.13.162] has joined #kubuntu [08:46] update on the problem, I cant [08:46] do any root-programs [08:47] for example, when running the control panel, I can't change the login.-stuff, when asked for password, I enter the right one, that works in a konsole, but it says that it is wrong === huerlisi [n=shuerlim@dz6330fenner-e0.fx-hfc.datazug.ch] has joined #kubuntu === [DeV] WiFi [n=juanki@62-15-243-249.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #kubuntu === [DeV] WiFi [n=juanki@62-15-243-249.inversas.jazztel.es] has left #kubuntu [] === kalenedrael [n=kalene@c-24-34-92-68.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === jmax [n=jmax@pbp87.dyndns.org] has joined #kubuntu === jmax [n=jmax@pbp87.dyndns.org] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [09:03] johlin: You do what I said to prevent what you said happened, namely: [09:03] Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server [09:03] Xlib: No protocol specified [09:03] kynaptic: cannot connect to X server :0.0 === laszlok [n=laszlo@134.117.187.134] has joined #kubuntu [09:04] Root can not connect because you have not given root permission to connect yet. [09:06] Root can not connect because you have not given root permission to connect yet. [09:06] okay [09:07] what do I do? [09:07] It's only g3etting worse.. [09:07] 31748 hydrogen 15 0 1023m 854m 608 S 0.0 84.4 43:10.94 gam_server === yhann [n=yhann@d154-20-117-155.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:07] johlin: do what I said above. Exit out of root, run that command as your non-root user,then become root, and do whatever. [09:09] johlin: That command gives root permission to use the x-server owned by your non-root user. === pirsl [n=pirsl@83.142.209.219] has joined #kubuntu [09:09] still doesn't work :( [09:10] what error? [09:10] johan@johan:~$ xhost local:root [09:10] non-network local connections being added to access control list [09:10] that is not an error. [09:10] it does work from terminal window, as root, but not when executed from the menu [09:11] then it still says wrong password [09:11] what is 'it'? [09:11] what the password is? [09:11] Use complete sentences. [09:12] If I execute kynaptic from the kde-menu, then kde tells me that the password is incorrect, but if I execute kynaptic as root from konsole, then it works, with lots of warnings though (warnings in the konsole window) [09:12] (where the "it" is kynaptic) [09:13] johlin: its _your_ password, not roots [09:13] how do i add repositories in kubuntu? [09:13] in the kdialog [09:13] So, ok, this is a new error. The X-server error went away. [09:13] where is it [09:14] Netskier: The passwords are the same for root and for my account, this worked in ubuntu. Is that what I am doing wrong? [09:14] I can not tell from what you have written. [09:14] so...what do you want me to write? [09:15] Sorry if I am not writing correctly. English is not my main language [09:16] Don't be concerned about the grammar; just be crystal clear. [09:17] johlin: what problem do you want to solve now? [09:17] okay. what info do you need? I can open kynaptic from a konsole-window, but then I get lots of warnings (but it's working correctly), but if I execute from the kde-menu, then my correct root-password seems to be wrong [09:18] johlin: I don't user package managers, so I am not the best person to help you with them. I just use the underlying apt-get commands. Tell me what you want to install,and I will tell you how to do it. [09:19] okay. thanks. I will try the kubuntu forum and see if someone can help me. [09:19] thanks for the effort anyway [09:19] I have a hunch about this. === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu [09:19] huch means? [09:19] welcome. [09:19] hunch means a guess. [09:20] okay. guess? [09:20] I am a Debian guy, and new to Kubuntu. I was shocked to find that root logins were not allowed from the x-login window. [09:20] and that I had no root password assigned. [09:21] yeah, that's wierd. but it's really meant as a beginner distro, but at least an option to disable this would be nice [09:21] So I fixed this by booting from the 'recovery mode' kernel, and then set the root password there. [09:21] and then root logins should be allowed+ [09:22] Now I can create a console window, and then su to root from there, when I need to do sys admin work. [09:22] that's what I do when I need to root stuff. Isn't logging in as root kind of insecure anyway? [09:22] Perhaps this might be related to your problem trying to do root related things from the menu. Just a guess. [09:23] maybe. I'll try the kubuntu forum [09:23] Depends on a lot of things. [09:23] but if you do wrong, you can mess things up, as root [09:24] Just don't run any vulnerable services, and stay behind a firewall, and you will be fairly safe, and don't insult anyone online,or they might hurt your system. [09:24] Do I need a firewall when running as non-root? [09:24] root is like driving a car; you can crash your car. [09:24] Firewall is always a good idea. [09:24] root is like driving a car; you can crash your car. [09:24] haha [09:25] Glad you laughed, but it is quite true. === Jeezis [n=roger@pdpc/supporter/student/Jeezis] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [09:25] But a lot cheaper to fix than your car. [09:25] yeah, I know. But I guess I will go for normal account for now. I don't need to do lost of root-things, and when I do, su will do [09:26] sudo is even better for that. [09:26] Keeps you from forgetting to log back out of root when you are done with it. [09:26] I always close down the terminal when I'm finished though. Guess it's a windows-thing [09:27] is kde good for new user of linux? [09:27] kde looks like windows, so I guess so. [09:27] when I began using linux, on slax then (a live cd), I really felt comfortable with kde [09:28] good for windows users; gnome might be better for mac users. [09:28] if you are a former windows\mac-user, then kde should be easy to use [09:28] I find it odd when people come to Linux and think it looks like windows. Some things, i.e. windows, are fairly standard. What did they expect? [09:28] windowmaker looks different than windows. [09:28] I expected just terminal windows everywhere, like dos, until I found out that time was moving forward === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.226.250] has joined #kubuntu [09:29] johlin: progress! [09:29] im moving from windows [09:30] yep. I felt stupid when I saw some really nice linux screenshots, always though it was like dos [09:30] i hate to go back. so i need all the support to stay ;) [09:30] me too, there is really good support for linux though, friendly people everywhere === biquillo [n=biquillo@86.Red-83-37-0.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:31] johlin. youre new to linux? [09:31] I was using slax (live-cd) in the beginning of this year, but due to lilo-problems, I have been using windows until now, when I felt like I needed linux in some way [09:32] I've been using regular ubuntu for a month also [09:32] Windows will always be windows, and never changes much, but with linux, you can make it look the way you like [09:32] u have a network? [09:32] I do, but I haven't tried to acess it yet, I installed kubuntu one hour ago, so [09:33] i wanted to install printer from another ubuntu box [09:33] i dont know how to do it :( [09:34] another ubuntu box. I though you meant a windows-network. === Martinjh99 [n=martinjh@62-30-33-77.cable.ubr01.pres.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [09:34] But I think kubuntu should have network support, if you don't have firewalls on them, it should work [09:34] maybe you miss some packages [09:35] yeah im in a windows network but i started replacing them all with ubuntu box [09:35] you need the samba-packages as far as I know === Martinjh99 [n=martinjh@62-30-33-77.cable.ubr01.pres.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #kubuntu [] [09:36] they should be in the package manager, and apt-get install samba should work as well === kalenedrael [n=kalene@c-24-34-92-68.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === stefano [n=stefano@i5387A5A6.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [09:42] hey does anyone of you guys speak french? [09:42] really important %) === stefano [n=stefano@i5387A5A6.versanet.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === farfa [n=farfa@179-244-118-80.kaptech.net] has joined #kubuntu === froggy25 [n=froggy25@pcp01030724pcs.dothan01.al.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === mametller [n=mametlle@170.51.232.180] has joined #kubuntu [09:48] i need help plz === mametller is now known as maram [09:49] !helpme [09:49] If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you. [09:49] i need to know how i can adjust my clock to show the time in 12 hr. mode [09:49] not 24 hr. mode [09:49] in the right timezone [09:49] which is central [09:49] how do you do this [09:50] !clock [09:50] Syntax error in line 1, froggy25 [09:50] !info clock [09:50] configure clock will give you option to change timezon [09:50] ive done that [09:50] froggy25: please don't flood; to investigate with the bot you should be in /msg [09:50] do what [09:51] im not flooding [09:51] im not a bot either [09:51] and i dont use bots [09:51] oh you mean ubotu [09:51] sorry [09:51] ok [09:51] help me [09:51] froggy25: you *were* flooding. You made 7 posts in a row, without any reason. [09:51] !enter [09:51] don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks! [09:51] help me [09:51] then [09:52] froggy25: you're giving practically zero information. [09:52] did you change to the correct timezone? [09:52] im using chicago timezone' [09:52] but it says 13:52:53 [09:53] i want it to say 2:54:00 [09:53] just change it, then [09:53] how [09:53] right click -> adjust date/time [09:53] that doesnt work [09:53] it doesn't bring it up? [09:53] i does [09:53] i dont know how to use it === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu [09:54] change the time it provides there [09:54] but its in 24 hr. mode [09:54] i want 12 hr. mode === _biquillo [n=biquillo@86.Red-83-37-0.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:54] I don't think you can switch to 12 hr. mode without getting an analog clock display [09:55] sure you can === Earered [n=plcm@pdc35-1-82-242-133-35.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:55] go into the localization control panel and change the time representation === apokryphos wonders why this isn't under configure clock, too === |maddox| [n=ttt@a212-113-184-103.netcabo.pt] has joined #KUBUNTU === xuserx [n=xuserx@c-24-8-68-56.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [09:57] oh, and if you need to know what the special characters are there, use the WhatsThis help [10:00] I'm impressed [10:00] The end. === _|maddox_ [n=ttt@a212-113-184-103.netcabo.pt] has joined #KUBUNTU === JeffAMcGee [n=jeff@host-66-205-125-240.classicnet.net] has joined #kubuntu === microsoft_bob2 [i=microsof@user-233-204-151-83.e7even.com] has joined #kubuntu === pirsl [n=pirsl@83.142.209.219] has joined #kubuntu === Flying_Eagle [n=f_e@pD95378D2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:20] hi [10:21] howdy [10:21] howdy === pc12 [n=pc12@203.131.130.86] has joined #kubuntu [10:23] hi [10:23] howdy [10:23] any filipinos here?? === hon [n=hon@gazor3.ece.queensu.ca] has joined #kubuntu === pc12 is now known as manyakis [10:25] hi pepz === osh [n=osh@81-231-230-175-no21.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu [10:27] Perhaps a stupid question, but why is firefox(browser) so dependant on gnome? 50% of the packages I see when I try to install it are gnome packages. === froggy25 [n=froggy25@pcp01030724pcs.dothan01.al.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:28] osh: the one in the repositories was built with gnome libs [10:28] im trying to locate the system fonts for kubuntu [10:28] where are they located [10:28] though it doesn't in theory need them -- they probably did it for a few extra gnome goodies [10:28] apokryphos [10:28] can you help me again [10:28] froggy25: try /usr/share/ and look for fonts === Hannes3 [n=hannes@p54AB570F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:29] ok [10:29] thanks nalioth [10:29] froggy25: also, you can open a terminal and "locate *.ttf" [10:29] oh yeah nalioth, has anyone else asked about baghira lately [10:29] ok i will [10:30] baghira? [10:30] the mac os x theme for kde === nalioth isnt familiar with that === jdef [n=jdef@cuscon3465.tstt.net.tt] has joined #kubuntu [10:30] apokryphos: Ah. I think I see some gnome-stuff in firefox though. Lots of menus and stuff look very gnome-ish. [10:30] oh ok [10:31] I know I can theme it away (mostly) but I was curious about the reason why it is like this. [10:31] osh: You can get the one from the website which requires only gtk stuff [10:31] osh: dont use ff, use galeon or epiphany or kazehakase instead [10:33] apokryphos: the www.mozilla.org website? But don't I want a qt only ff? [10:33] there isn't a properly working one [10:33] nalioth: Does the ff plugins work with those browsers? I know they are related but are they compatible? === osh nods [10:33] osh: the 3 browsers i mentioned ARE written with gtk, for gnome desktop use [10:34] osh: yes, the plugins should work fine. you may need to manually install them === pirsl [n=pirsl@83.142.209.219] has joined #kubuntu [10:34] nalioth: Actually what I was looking for was a qt-ff. I was curious why I needed all those gnome-libs when trying to install ff. === jdef [n=jdef@cuscon3465.tstt.net.tt] has joined #kubuntu === loas [n=loas@200141238179.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu === loas is now known as apow [10:35] nalioth: Sorry if I was unclear. [10:35] osh: 3 words. "compile it yourself" [10:37] nalioth: Well, yes, I've done that but it still requires gnome-libs. And compiling it is quite a feat actually. Not something you just do "./configure && make all" if I remember correctly. === fire|fly [n=laurent@535454B1.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu [10:38] Is there anyway to make gnome apps a more kde compatible look [10:40] jdef, you mean the gtk-qt-engine? [10:41] flying_eagle, yes thx [10:41] np :) === ToyMan2 [n=stuq@user-12lcqia.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === ||maddox| [n=ttt@a212-113-184-103.netcabo.pt] has joined #kubuntu [10:43] osh: nother reason to leave ff alone === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.187.47] has joined #kubuntu === farfa [n=farfa@179-244-118-80.kaptech.net] has joined #kubuntu === maram [n=mametlle@170.51.232.180] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === farfa [n=farfa@179-244-118-80.kaptech.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === dverzolla [n=dverzoll@proxynet.fcl.com.br] has joined #kubuntu [10:51] flying_eagle, can I find it in the repositories [10:51] yes [10:51] apt-cache search qt gtk engine === pc13 [n=pc13@203.131.130.86] has joined #kubuntu === farfa [n=farfa@179-244-118-80.kaptech.net] has joined #kubuntu [10:52] lu === farfa [n=farfa@179-244-118-80.kaptech.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === nxv_ [n=nxv_@dsl-084-056-094-107.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === smux [n=smux@home.mescaline.fr] has joined #kubuntu === _robert [n=robert@i577B0605.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu [11:03] <_robert> hi all === pc13 is now known as pogi [11:05] hi [11:05] <_robert> I upgraded the libc6 from breezy because i needed the 2.6.12 kernel (for dvb-t - previous modules didn't work). Now in konsole no command prompt comes up. What can I do now? Is doing an apt-get dist-upgrade my only option? [11:08] nalioth: But I like ff. I just wish it was a bit more qt-friendly. === zorba64 [n=zorba64@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:11] From what I gather there is a project going on to make Firefox a KDE app. Or was it integrating Gecko support into Konqueror? Can't remember === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@user-0c6smk2.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:11] RogueJediX: I think it was the latter... [11:12] RogueJediX: both, kind of. === AMIGrAve [n=amigrave@196.114-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #kubuntu [11:12] Gecko as a possible html rendering engine in Konqueror is being worked on [11:12] but I think a little work is being still done on firefox-qt [11:12] Nice [11:13] Either is good === ||maddox| [n=dox@a212-113-184-103.netcabo.pt] has joined #kubuntu [11:13] is it possible to use an audio CD iso image as if it was a cdrom device ? I tried to use the file path as the cdrom device in kaudiocreator but it doesn't work === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@user-0c6smk2.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu === smokencrack [n=luis@adsl-2-190-22.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === smiroldo [n=smiroldo@host199-52.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.187.47] has joined #kubuntu === kairu0 [n=kairu@YahooBB219201195046.bbtec.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:16] hello all === hroller [n=hroller@66.189.231.62] has joined #kubuntu === hroller [n=hroller@66.189.231.62] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === True_Chaos|Lapto [n=cameron@HSE-Ottawa-ppp323955.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu === carlos [n=carlos@a81-84-146-158.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #kubuntu [11:25] oi [11:26] how to connect a hp printer kubuntu breezy? === pirsl [n=pirsl@83.142.209.219] has joined #kubuntu === _kiki [n=kiki@nor75-15-82-67-190-83.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === _kiki [n=kiki@nor75-15-82-67-190-83.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [11:28] carlos, settings and printers and follow the wizard my hp was set up in no time [11:28] how do you get cups started? [11:28] carlos, system settings and printers [11:29] carlos, add printer === ctw [n=ctw@129-79-193-33.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has joined #kubuntu [11:30] i have tried but no works (hp photosmart 1218) [11:31] hi! Is anybody here running the breezy preview on a HP Pavilon dv1000 laptop (or any other laptop) and has gotten suspend to disk and/or suspend to ram to work? [11:31] it looks like it worked in Hoary, but it's very buggy for me (will wake up briefly and immediately shut down again, or not wake up at all). [11:33] ctw: i have the same problem with a toshiba satellite pro, i think the problem is a bug in breezy [11:34] thanks carlos ... do you know if a bug report has been filed? === AMIGrAve [n=amigrave@196.114-200-80.adsl.skynet.be] has left #kubuntu ["Gone"] [11:34] any idea if that'll be fixed for the final version? [11:35] carlos,I see the printer in the wizard list [11:35] speaking of printers how do I get the print daemon running in kubuntu. I cannot get cups started. [11:36] ctw: suspend-to-disk, wakeup, etc are still kinda out there [11:36] i think no bug report but i hope the guys in final version fixed it): [11:37] nalioth, it worked on my old laptop (at least suspend to disk) and I've read reports that it worked out of the box with the dv1000 and Hoary [11:37] ctw:tks, i don t know the problem but the printer don t work...and they upgrade today hp printers [11:38] ctw: i've personally never seen it work on any laptop [11:38] it's really usefull, I've seen it for the first time when I installed Hoary on a Compaq Presario 2700 ... I was very surprised and happy. [11:39] its such a useful feature [11:39] yes it is === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu === pc12 [n=pc12@203.131.130.86] has joined #kubuntu === pc22 [n=pc22@222.126.13.162] has joined #kubuntu [11:41] how do i add repository in kubuntu? [11:41] hi [11:42] pc 22:change hoary for breezy in sources.list it works with me === pc12 is now known as manyak [11:42] hi manyak [11:42] hilow [11:42] asl pls [11:42] where from? [11:42] phil [11:42] u? [11:43] hey [11:43] stil der? [11:43] yeah im here [11:43] phil [11:44] tlga [11:44] san.. [11:44] sa qc [11:44] u?> [11:44] ah [11:44] gensan [11:44] e [11:44] male po kau [11:44] [11:45] 3 kami share sa isang comp [11:45] ok [11:45] bgo lng ako [11:45] la ko [11:45] lam neto e [11:45] d pde cam d2 ano?? [11:45] English only in here please. [11:46] racism [11:46] smokencrack: where? [11:47] how do i add repository in kubuntu? [11:47] pc22 [11:47] "english only in here please". dont take it personal [11:47] san ka na [11:47] ubotu: tell pc22 about repositories [11:47] smokencrack: I think you need to get your terms sorted out ;-) [11:48] persons who speak a language is quite different to a race [11:48] I am not exactly a scholar, excuse prof. [11:48] sowe [11:48] excuse me prof. [11:48] nka blocke ako e [11:49] smokencrack: though it's not like we're trying to supress other languages. There are other kubuntu channels -- see /topic [11:49] apokryphos: im using kde [11:49] manyak: I've already told you -- English only in here. [11:49] the instructions there is for gnome [11:49] ok [11:49] sorry sir [11:49] pc22: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and add the new ones there [11:49] manyak pls speak englssih [11:50] small only [11:50] hihihih [11:50] pc22 get it here http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/vesaire/sources.list [11:50] pc22 change hoary to breezy where it occurs [11:52] jdef: you using breezy now? === JeffAMcGee [n=jeff@host-66-205-125-240.classicnet.net] has joined #kubuntu [11:52] pc22 yes [11:53] what could be the difference tothe brreezy that will be released on otober? [11:54] pc22: a few differences listed here: http://cs.georgefox.edu/~jdodson/breezy_preview/ [11:54] pc22 this is the preview release main difference would be bugfixes and final touches nothing major [11:54] ahhh so we can update it === hon [n=hon@gazor3.ece.queensu.ca] has joined #kubuntu [11:55] mind you, a lot of that is just gnome stuff =) [11:55] kde changes aren't *that* significant as it will unfortunately only have 3.4.2 [11:56] apokryphos 3.4.2 works great for me [11:56] what will be the difference if i use hoary and then just update it with synaptic [11:56] jdef: sure, but it's not 3.5 =) [11:56] pc22: officially, it's recommended that you don't upgrade yet [11:57] apokryphos yeah I suppose [11:57] tnx [11:57] pc22 I didn't update hoary I d/l kubuntu breezy preview === _hippie [n=hippie@pc-200-74-48-37.trinidad1.pc.metropolis-inter.com] has joined #kubuntu [11:59] my exboyfriend is anxious to find out whats new. [12:00] i wonder if im the only girl here in this room === pc12 [n=pc12@203.131.130.86] has joined #kubuntu === pc12 is now known as PASIKAT