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michaeldyes12:00
michaeld:)12:00
adjacentugo_: should work12:00
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adjacentor http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:DKuOVPSDNskJ:https://lists.openafs.org/pipermail/openafs-info/2003-May/009119.html&hl=en&client=firefox12:00
NoUsemichaeld knowing that you wouldn't be able to burn it?12:00
michaeldno12:00
adjacentfor google mirror12:00
PhoenixP3KHi everyone! Just a quick question12:01
NoUsemichaeld did you see the "how to use apt locally" heading on the link I sent you?12:01
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michaeldwhat link?12:01
Hello_WorldHi12:01
michaeldthat debian doc one?12:01
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NoUsemichaeld yes12:01
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Hello_Worldcan somebody help me with setting up my 5.1 Sound?12:02
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alekin the new breezy preview, gnome 2 doesn't have the "open terminal" in the right click menu...is there a reason for this?12:02
Seveas!tell Hello_World about sound12:02
PhoenixP3KI'm making a partition for ubuntu12:02
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Seveasalek, it's been moved to a plugin (nautilus-open-terminal)12:02
ugo_man alek u voiced my gripe clean there12:02
alekSeveas: great thanks.12:02
naliothalek: there is a pkg to fix that (cant remember the name of it, tho)12:02
Hello_Worldty12:02
NoUsemichaeld also, try apt-cdrom again with the -m option12:02
michaelddoesnt work, nouse12:02
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NoUsemichaeld saying "doesn't work" helps me not at all with troubleshooting12:03
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trigger_phDoes anyone know of an irc plugin for emacs?12:03
TwiggyI got an issue with my alsamixer settings randomly resetting themselves, is there some way to lock my settings so that doesn't happen?12:03
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Seveastrigger_ph, erc12:03
trigger_ph@Seveas thanks! will look that up12:03
PhoenixP3KI have a 250 GB HDD NTFS with Windows XP, the new partition I make, has it to be Linux Ext2 or Linux Ext3 ?12:04
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Hello_Worldwell, the problem is, my sound works, but only the two front channely12:04
Hello_World-y+s12:04
ilpavoxseveas: which package are you referring to?12:04
erUSULtrigger_ph:  apt-cache search emacs irc12:04
Seveasilpavox, sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb12:04
EarthenI have a question when you install danguardian does it creat a user under the same name is that normal12:04
funkyHatPhoenixP3K, it can be ext2, ext3, reiserfs, fat32, or a few others :P but ext3 is probably the best option (it's also the default that ubuntu will install as)12:05
Hello_World...12:05
erUSULEarthen: yes12:05
funkyHatPhoenixP3K, you will also need to create a swap partition12:05
Hello_Worldext3 is sooo sloooowwwww....12:05
Earthenthank you12:05
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test34is the WMV or ASF codec available in ubuntu? I did't see libwin32..12:05
SeveasHello_World, you need to use an alsa plugin for that12:05
test34(in synaptic..)12:05
Seveasthat wiki page should tell how12:05
PhoenixP3KfunkyHat Can't I let ubuntu installer make it?12:05
ilpavoxseveas: got it12:05
evianhey Agrajag, I found out how to change Nautilus so it doesn't change windows (size) on you12:05
funkyHatPhoenixP3K, yes :)12:05
naliothtest34: w32codecs12:05
Hello_WorldWhat Plugin?12:06
Seveastest34, it is not, you can download it from mplayerhq.hu12:06
EarthenI am getting alot of packets going to squid and dansguardian and i can't stop it12:06
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erUSULHello_World: maybe but it has the only fsck you can trust12:06
trigger_ph@erUSUL unfortunately, i can't do apt atm. i broke my gdm by re-enabling an onboard video interface. i'm on a windoze machine and the x-chat client for windoze is evaluation stuff.12:06
michaeldok12:06
funkyHatPhoenixP3K, but it won't if you choose the manual partition editor12:06
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PhoenixP3KfunkyHat, so I make an ext3 the size I choose then I can start installing?12:06
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michaeldmy grandma got some cdrs NoUse12:06
michaeld:D12:06
evianwell really how to make it use "browse" mode by default12:06
funkyHatPhoenixP3K, are you planning to use up the rest of the space on your hard disk?12:06
Agrajagevian: what, why would I care?12:06
test34ok thanks nalioth and Seveas12:07
PhoenixP3KfunkyHat, the rest will be for Windows XP (games)12:07
erUSULevian: with Gconf editor12:07
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AgrajagAnd why did you message me about that before?12:07
funkyHatPhoenixP3K, is that space already partitioned?12:07
NoUsemichaeld ok12:07
evianAgrajag: I thought you were saying yesterday you found Nautilis unusuable12:07
Agrajagno...12:07
evianunusable12:07
AgrajagI don't believe I spoke in here yesterday12:07
evianoh sorry, I guess that was someone else12:07
AgrajagI find spatial mode to be quite useable, I like it12:07
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Agrajagok12:07
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PhoenixP3KfunkyHat, no it's just Windows XP on it has we speak12:08
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shavingcreamhi12:08
shavingcreamwhats matrix reasoning?12:08
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PhoenixP3KfunkyHat, my partition program seems to be able to make a LinuxSwap partition as well12:08
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chrisbudden14where can i get the file libmp3lame.so from?12:09
bob2packages.ubuntu.com12:09
funkyHatPhoenixP3K, the way i would advise you to proceed is to create partitions for everything else you are going to install, and leave empty space for ubuntu12:09
funkyHatPhoenixP3K, then install ubuntu using the 'automatically partition free space' option12:10
chrisbudden14was the packages.ubuntu.com to me?12:10
erUSULchrisbudden14: apt-cache search lame | grep lame12:10
chrisbudden14sure12:10
chrisbudden14thanks12:10
funkyHatPhoenixP3K, one thing to note is that ubuntu includes a boot loader that will allow you to choose between your installed operating systems, while windows does not12:10
funkyHatPhoenixP3K, so i would advise you to install your windows instances first, and then ubuntu12:11
Lie-Algebrahi, what software can I use under gnome to burn cds?12:11
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naliothLie-Algebra: k3b, gnomebaker or graveman12:11
PhoenixP3KfunkyHat, well Windows is already there, so I just need to make a Linux Ext3 partition right?12:12
Hello_WorldSeveas, what plugin do i need for 6 Channel Sound12:12
QuinthiusLie-Algebra: or nautilus12:12
QuinthiusLie-Algebra: or serpentine, for audio12:12
erUSULLie-Algebra: gnomebaker, coaster orgraveman12:12
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erUSULLie-Algebra: gnomebaker, coaster or graveman12:12
funkyHatPhoenixP3K, so windows is already installed? i thought you meant you were going to be installing a second instance of windows12:12
FruityLoophallo12:13
funkyHatPhoenixP3K, you didn't answer my question, are you going to be creating any other partitions in the free space that is currently there, or are you going to use all of the unpartitioned space for linux?12:13
FruityLoopis jemand da?12:13
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Lie-Algebrathanks ;)12:13
PhoenixP3KfunkyHat, oh! I'll use part of the free space to ma a partition12:13
PhoenixP3KfunkyHat, something like 25 GB12:13
funkyHatok, create that partition now12:14
PhoenixP3Kand then?12:14
funkyHatand then use the option i mentioned in the ubuntu installer12:14
funkyHatautomatically partition free space12:14
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baikonurhi12:14
PhoenixP3KfunkyHat, "automatically partition free space" right?12:14
funkyHatyou don't even have to bother formatting the partition you are creating now, just creat the partition12:15
funkyHatyes12:15
baikonurI would like to know, how to do the following (LILO) with grub: "other=/dev/hdb1 \  label=Win98 \ map-drive = 0x80 \ to = 0x81 \  map-drive = 0x81 \ to = 0x80"?12:15
PhoenixP3KthankS!! funkyHat12:15
topyliPhoenixP3K: funkyHat is right. go ahead12:15
funkyHatPhoenixP3K, one thing to note (you may know this already) is that linux can't safely write to ntfs12:15
funkyHatso the other partition you make, you may want to format as fat3212:15
test34you can't drag a window from one workspace to another ?12:15
G|Patrickgn812:15
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funkyHatso that you can swap files between windows and linux12:15
SymGeosisbitmastro, you get my PM?12:16
funkyHatPhoenixP3K, one last thing!12:16
funkyHatoh actually, you're not using the manual partition editor in the installer, never mind ;)12:16
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topylihah12:16
PhoenixP3KfunkyHat, so I make a fat32 partition. Thanks :D12:16
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mkyb14anyone else have a problem with the install failing when it got to like 60% with some log crap12:17
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funkyHatyes, both windows and linux can read and write fat32, so it's a good extra partition to have12:17
PhoenixP3KThanks you all, see you guys when Ubuntu is installed ;)12:17
funkyHat:)12:17
trigger_ph@mkyb14 do u get a media read error?12:18
mkyb14no it gives this in...something log fail i'm gonna reinstall it right now and type the error in a sec12:18
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topylitest34: not in gnome, as long as you're using the default metacity as a window manager. you can do through the dektop selector applet though12:18
trigger_phok12:18
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baikonurwow this is easy to do with GRUB: map (hda), (hdb) map (hdb), (hda)12:19
mkyb14hmm it formats really quick. nice12:19
LittleDanI checked the md5sum and it was right, but it still doesn't recognize itself as ubuntu for some reason12:20
erUSULtopyli: i have dragged in the pager a window to another wokspace right now12:20
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mkyb14ok it's installing the base system in a min i'll type the error12:21
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topylierUSUL: it works that way. it's just that metacity doesn't have sensitive desktop borders like classic X window managers do12:21
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topylilike fvwm and enlightenment12:22
cr4shhey can anyone help me with Rhymybox Music Player i have installed all the needed codecs and it was working before but now it gives me this error!!!12:22
erUSULbaikonur: try somthing with the hide command12:22
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tommy_hhmmm, I cannot make any global variables...looks like they get local only12:22
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cr4shThis is the ERROR: Got error opening "file:///media/win_d/Music/Rap%20%26%20Rnb%20Albums/OLD%20MIXE's/07-canibus-indisible-rfl.mp3": Could not start pipeline playing12:22
nick01hi; if I install ubuntu is there somebody that can help me configure lirc ? I wanna use that feature in the kde control center to control apps with my tv tuner remote12:22
erUSULbaikonur: in the stanza of win98 in menu.lst12:22
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nakatacr4sh, your music sucks too much12:22
nakatatry greenday12:23
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nick01I meant any way possible12:23
StyXmanI'm getting these when updating via apt:12:23
StyXman19:14 [freenode]  -!-    #grulic perrito666 G+  0  n=Perrito@239-231-114-200.fibertel.com.ar [Horacio Francisco Sebastian del12:23
nakataubuntu is fickle that way.12:23
StyXman                                sagrado corazon de] 12:23
StyXmanarm...12:23
nick01not kde- that's for kubuntu12:23
nick01I just wanna use lirc12:23
StyXmanFailed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch12:23
korbinus(quit12:23
nick01so I'll install either ubuntu or kubuntu- wheteer works12:23
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cr4shnakata: thanks. for ur opinion.. can you help12:23
nick01anyone good with lirc ?12:23
nakatasure12:23
nakatayour gstreamer doesn't have a valid audio output plugin selected12:24
nakatacheck the faq about how to set that up12:24
zblachhi12:24
nakatai'm pretty sure it's in Getting Started too12:24
erUSULcr4sh: maybe the extrange caracters in the path do not help much12:24
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zblachhow do i run a .jar file?12:24
ryanthiessenanyone else having a problem with no /dev/input/mice on the latest breezy?12:24
nakatazblach, unzip12:24
zblachnakata, its an executable jar12:24
nakataryanthiessen, no problems here12:25
nick01java -jar xxxx.jar12:25
nakata^12:25
zblachthanks nick0112:25
ryanthiessennakata: thx12:25
nakatadepending on what you're using anyway12:25
nick01np12:25
nakatai think that's the blackdown way12:25
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topylizblach: java -jar filename.jar12:25
cr4sherUSUl: any suggestions12:25
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mkyb14AHHHOK hers' the error 'unable to install initrd-tools,  an error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target sustem.  Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details'12:26
alekso i installed libnautilus-open-terminal and i know nothing of nautlus configs, is it possible to move the Open Terminal to the top of the menu?12:26
nick01no lirc expert here ? :|12:26
mkyb14google it12:26
erUSULtry what nakata says run gstreamer-properties12:26
nakatanick01, never got it working12:26
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nick01:(12:26
topylinick01: happens to mr12:26
nick01topyli: happens what ?12:27
erUSULand select correct output (alsa or esd)12:27
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topylie everytime i have a problem :)12:27
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mkyb14AHHHOK hers' the error 'unable to install initrd-tools, an error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target sustem. Check/target/var/log/ bootstrap.log for details'12:27
trigger_ph@mkyb14 and it stops there? no read activity from the CD?12:27
erUSULnick01: not myself sorry :(12:27
mkyb14? any takers12:27
zblachanyone here install the PRC into NWN?12:27
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nick01topyli: so u're not a lirc expert ? :/12:27
nick01erUSUL: k12:28
mkyb14no it lets me continue, but then immediatly says installation step failed12:28
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topylinick01: no, never got any ir stuff to work myself :(12:28
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mkyb14then boots me back to the beginning to install the base system or copy remaining packages12:28
erUSULmkyb14: have you checked /var/log/bootstrap.log as it says12:28
nick01k tks12:28
mkyb14i can't, ti's still on the setup12:29
mkyb14how'm i supposed to access that when it's not fulling installed12:29
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trigger_ph@mkyb14 the last time i got that kind of error, my CDROM drive wasn't capable of reading the installer CD, which was burned at a higher speed12:29
erUSULmkyb14: Crt Alt Fn to change to another virtual terminal an see the file12:30
ompaulmkyb14, there is one thing you can do, choose server install  by typing server at the prompt at the start of the install - when that is done do this login and type this >>> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop <<< that works in some cases like yours12:30
trigger_phbrb12:30
mkyb14fn?12:30
erUSULmkyb14: F2 for example or F312:30
mkyb14i'm gonna let it finish installing the remaining packages and see if that works12:31
mkyb14i burned it on to a cd-rw12:31
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macroexpdoes anyone here run mythtv? I've got it installed, and it works, but it's missing mythjobqueue12:33
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macroexpso i'm wondering if i should try different packages12:33
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mkyb14eh i'll try my other cd-rom drive before going backwards12:35
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baikonurerUSUL: wow this is easy to do with GRUB: map (hda), (hdb) map (hdb), (hda)12:35
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mkyb14i really want this to work after reading about ubuntu lastnight12:35
ugocould someone tell me what the developer channel is12:35
ugoi have a few issues id like to discuss with the team....thanks12:36
erUSULbaikonur: nice to know ;)12:36
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vader1102ugo, no idea12:36
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oscarhhi... i am having problem with native charecters in the console and also in applications such as vim12:38
oscarhi use a UTF-8 locale12:38
oscarhand afaik i did not have this problem fram the begining12:38
oscarhcan someone just point me in a direction?12:38
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vladuz976how do you upgrade from warty to hoary with aptitude12:40
funkyHatvladuz976, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list12:41
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naliothvladuz976: you modify your /etc/apt/sources.list to change each 'warty' to 'hoary', then dist-upgrade12:41
funkyHatremove (or comment out) the CD repository (top line)12:41
vladuz976nalioth, apt-get dist-upgrade?12:41
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funkyHatand replace every 'warty' to 'hoary'12:41
funkyHat*with12:42
naliothvladuz976: after you change "warty" for "hoary"12:42
funkyHatnalioth, apt-get update?12:42
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vladuz976nalioth, ok change that then "apt-get update" then "apt-get dist-upgrade"?12:42
erUSULvladuz976: sed -e 's/warty/hoary' -i /etc/apt/sources.list :D12:43
naliothvladuz976: funkyHat brings up "apt-get update" after modifying your sources.list12:43
vladuz976erUSUL, what is that12:43
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ifyour555im666hello12:43
Gnonthgolhi12:43
funkyHathi12:43
erUSULa way to change every warty to hoary in sources.list you can edit the file by hand too12:43
vladuz976erUSUL, what does sed do?12:44
ifyour555im666can some on help me im new to linux and would appreciate any help12:44
erUSULvladuz976: sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list :D12:44
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funkyHatifyour555im666, just tell us what your problem is :)12:44
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ifyour555im666I installed ubuntu yester day on my laptop and cant get my modem to auto detect12:45
erUSULsed is an no interactive editor12:45
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ilpavoxseveas: installed the sun j2re package and the plugin/jvm is still crashing whenever i load a an applet in firefox.  any ideas?12:45
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bytefoohey umm...are there really 70 updates :X12:46
vader1102there was 55 yesterday12:46
bytefooalright, mine shows 7012:47
bytefooi was freaked out though, since that'a alot :X12:47
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vader1102nawwwwwwwww12:47
oscarhnoone who can point me in any direction regarding native characters not working in console?12:47
naliothbytefoo: breezy will have regular heavy updates12:47
bytefoono shit12:47
bytefoothat's because it will be new :/12:47
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funkyHatlol12:48
oscarhthe console shows two characters, like utf-8 decoded with latin112:48
funkyHatXD my APT has Super Cow Powers12:48
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bytefooheh12:48
funkyHatwell, my server's apt does anywas...12:48
funkyHati don't know about this machine's one12:48
bytefooi think i will color my apt :X12:48
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bytefoooh i run archlinux for servers :/12:48
funkyHati run debian12:49
bytefoocool12:49
Gnonthgoloscarh: workes for me. 12:49
bytefoocan we be friends12:49
bytefoo:)12:49
bytefoo:/12:49
bytefoo:(12:49
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funkyHat:)12:49
oscarhGnonthgol, oh well, not for me12:49
oscarhGnonthgol, not in the console or in applications like vim12:49
funkyHatyes12:49
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oscarhGnonthgol, here it does 12:49
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ifyour555im666can anyone tell me why my smart links modem wont auto detect12:50
funkyHathahar. ubuntu's apt doesn't have super cow powers12:50
funkyHatit's a good job i have a server with debian on it12:50
funkyHator i wouldn't have them12:50
roham_is it possible to upgrade to 5.10 without new installation?12:50
funkyHatyes12:50
erUSULoscarh: it is in gnome-terminal12:50
funkyHati did it today12:50
erUSUL?12:50
funkyHatroham_, ^12:50
vader1102ifyour555im666, have you tried the wiki?12:50
oscarherUSUL, in gnome-terminal it's ok12:51
Gnonthgoloscarh: maby it dont work then, just tested it12:51
funkyHatroham_, i tested out the live CD of the latest colony release first though ;), that might be a good idea12:51
vader1102I have had bad luck with some modems12:51
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roham_funkyhat: how and is it more stable now? cause it is preview rel.12:51
ifyour555im666Ive tried forms not wiki12:51
funkyHatit's nearly perfect here, just a couple of things that are only broken because i've changed them before12:51
GnonthgolerUSUL: I am using tty2 and cant get them to work12:51
vader1102Does someone have the URL for the wiki and modems?12:52
pluggoI'm running ubuntu on ppc on an eMac... the sounds are very quiet (and I've been through all the parts of the mixer). Any ideas?12:52
oscarherUSUL, it does not work if i shut down X or hit ctrl + alt + f4 or something12:52
roham_funkyhat: is it many changes? and is the gnome better? heh12:52
funkyHati haven't noticed anything different about gnome yet :P12:52
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roham_funkyhat ok ... but u downloaded it and upgraded it ? cause i think you can use the "auto-updater"12:53
pluggoNo?12:53
funkyHatroham_, no i downloaded the live CD just to test it, then when i was sure it worked (including the nVidia drivers) i took the CD out and rebooted, edited my sources.list and did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:54
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pluggoThe sounds are really loud when they first start, but soon (less than a second) after they become quiet.12:54
funkyHatheh, after sudo apt-get update12:54
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roham_funkyhat... ok but why shouldnt it work?12:54
funkyHatno reason, i'm just paranoid ;)12:54
kbob717i need a reminder on how to get macromedia shockwave player.12:55
GnonthgolAnyone know how to use irssi?12:55
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kbob717and a typing tutor12:55
robotgeekGnonthgol: http://irssi.org/help12:55
kbob717and kubuntu12:55
funkyHati get some odd errors on boot actually, but i don't know how to view some kind of boot log so i can pastebin the error, or even look at it12:55
roham_funkyhat... hehe ok.. where can I find what I should do with the sources file?12:55
roham_how many people in here are using 5.10?12:55
funkyHatroham_, just comment out the CD line, and change 'hoary' for 'breezy' everywhere it appears12:56
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Gnonthgolrobotgeek: But I got no gui12:56
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funkyHatGnonthgol, use a text based browser then :P12:57
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bytefoosomeone has stolen my pie :|12:57
robotgeekGnonthgol: elinks / lynx works too12:57
funkyHatbytefoo, it was me12:57
bytefoobastard12:57
funkyHatXD12:57
bytefoo;[12:57
robotgeek!tell me about language12:58
naliothbytefoo: language please12:58
erUSUL!tell me about language12:58
funkyHatno entry guys ;)12:58
robotgeekerUSUL: :)12:58
bytefoo:)12:58
funkyHatoh and...12:58
erUSULXD12:58
funkyHat/msg ubotu language12:59
funkyHat;)12:59
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bytefoolanguage eh12:59
funkyHat;)12:59
Gnonthgolrobotgeek: I know but cause of a charter error Lynx displays things wrong12:59
war-totemive installed eterm in fluxbox but typing eterm in the console doesnt run it12:59
Gnonthgol! language12:59
ubotuGnonthgol: What?12:59
war-totemand i cant find it in any of the menus12:59
robotgeekGnonthgol: what u using right now?12:59
war-totemanyone know whats up?12:59
steve___when i resume from hibernation i get "unable to find volume group hda1"12:59
steve___using breezy badger PR301:00
Gnonthgolrobotgeek: I am using irssi on a PC without gui01:00
robotgeekGnonthgol: then what do u need to find out about irssi?01:00
erUSULwar-totem: run 'which eterm'01:00
war-totemenlightenment term erUSUL01:00
war-totemi downloaded them in synaptic01:01
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robotgeekGnonthgol: most info is present in /usr/share/doc/irssi-text , if you installed the doc packages01:01
Gnonthgolrobotgeek: ok01:01
erUSULrun the comand "which eterm" to see where the system thinks it is installed ;)01:01
war-totemoh01:02
war-totemhehe01:02
war-totemone sec01:02
freedomjazzdanceis there a way to watch someone on a ssh session?01:02
thierryfreedomjazzdance : maybe vlc, I'm not sure01:02
bytefoomitm attack :|01:02
war-totemwhich eterm doesnt do anything01:02
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pluggoInstall VNC on the computer that they're using to connect  :)01:02
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erUSULwar-totem: are you sure that you installed eterm? if it's installed it should say something like /usr/bin/eterm01:03
thierryyeah VNC sorry01:03
war-totempositive01:03
war-totemsynaptic installed it and reinstalled it01:03
freedomjazzdancethierry,  do you mean vnc?01:04
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freedomjazzdancethierry, ahh thanks01:04
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freedomjazzdancehow do you see whos logged on your system?01:05
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funkyHatfreedomjazzdance, users01:05
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freedomjazzdanceand is there a log of what commands they're running01:05
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pluggofreedom: The "w" command01:05
peanut#kubuntu01:05
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erUSULwar-totem: well try "updatedb && locate eterm"01:07
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abbot45ok.  im completly new to networking.  all im trying to do right now is set up a static IP so i can forward ports.  ive been leeching for the last couple weeks but now ive got a WRT54G.  how can i tell if im actually getting the connection from my router?01:07
freedomjazzdancewhat about what they've done from the prompt, is that stored somewhere?01:08
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war-totemill try it01:08
difetawhere can i find packages for network manager?01:08
robotgeekdifeta: are on breezy?01:08
war-totemif not, whats another way to set a background in fluxbox?01:08
pluggoabbot45: run "nc -l -p portnumber" and try connecting from a computer on the outside01:09
shinuhow can i unzip many files at once?01:09
shinuunzip * doesnt really work01:09
freedomjazzdanceabbot45,  what are you trying to do?01:09
ZeroCarontEi just recieved the shipped ubuntu cds, but when i try to install it, i have that same problem (but the using_dma:0 thing didnt helped): http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=264001:09
difetarobotgeek, is it available in breezy? I'm still waiting for the breezy stable release01:09
abbot45freedomjazzdance, set up my router that i just got.01:09
ZeroCarontEany other suggestion?01:09
freedomjazzdanceabbot45,  setting up a wireless router right>01:09
abbot45freedomjazzdance, yup01:09
robotgeekdifeta: not yet, but should be hitting the repos soon01:09
freedomjazzdanceabbot45, do you need to set it up on a windows computer first?01:10
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freedomjazzdanceabbot45, what kind of router is it?01:10
pluggoabbot45: Did you tell the port to forward in the web interface yet?01:10
robotgeekdifeta: you might just want to compile from cvs01:10
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abbot45freedomjazzdance, but the wifi light is not flashing on the router, so i'm wondering if im still grabbing someone elses connection in a different apt.01:10
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abbot45its a WRT56G01:11
war-totemerUSUL, how long is that command supposed to take?01:11
CompBrainHello: Trying to install Ubuntu Breezy PR on an AMD 64 X2 4200+, 2GB ram, and its hanging at 'Storing Language (96%)'01:11
funkyHatwhere is the boot up log stored? i need to pastebin some of it and ask how to fix it :P01:11
freedomjazzdanceabbot45, ok well type iwconfig to see what network you are connected to01:11
abbot45pluggo, i put 192.168.1.1 in my browser like it says on portforward.com but it times out.01:11
CompBrainI tried both the net installer, and the full iso01:11
erUSULwar-totem: it depends on the size of the filesystem and the number of files01:11
war-totemerUSUL, never mind it finished nad it found a lot of stuff with eterm01:12
CompBrainand both fail at the same spot, any suggestions?01:12
war-totemwhats the next step01:12
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erUSULwar-totem: locate eterm | grep bin ?01:12
abbot45it says Nickname:"Prism I".  thats not mine.01:12
nicholaswell, because I am bold I installed breezy PR01:12
nicholasall is well...01:13
nicholasfor now01:13
nicholasL)01:13
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abbot45how do i make it grab my router?01:13
pluggoabbot45: You're probably connected to your neighbor, then. Do you have a box with a wired ethernet connect?01:13
freedomjazzdanceabbot45, try system>admin>networking01:13
neipalowhi01:13
abbot45pluggo, i don't have a wired etho card in my box.01:13
war-totemit seems to be in /usr/bin01:14
SymGeosisabbot45, what is your problem?01:14
war-totemsorry, usr/share01:14
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abbot45SymGeosis, im trying to set up my wireless router, but it keeps grabbing the neighbors connection.01:14
SymGeosisabbot45, I think it may be similiar to a problem I had, though I just walked in on this convo.01:14
erUSULwar-totem: /usr/bin/eterm ?01:14
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neipalowi have a cuestion... exist a emulator of dos fot linux ubuntu??01:14
ZodiacHello all01:14
Zodiacquestion for ya...01:14
abbot45freedomjazzdance, im in that, but it doesnt like list the available connections.01:14
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ZodiacIs the Gstreamer thats included in Breezy better equiped to play DVDs?01:15
SymGeosisZodiac, I've had the same luck with DVDs as I had on Hoary.01:15
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ZodiacSo Totem Xine should be installed is what your saying?01:15
freedomjazzdanceabbot45, in properties of the wireless device there should be a pulldown menu for essid01:16
abbot45iwconfig also says my link quality is 46/92, but it should be much better than that.01:16
SymGeosisZodiac, I'd recommend it, yes.01:16
pluggoabbot45: You can do a factory reset on those boxes by turning power off then powering it up with the reset button held in and holding it for 20 seconds. After that you should be able to connect over wifi.01:16
Zodiacpoop01:16
Zodiacok01:16
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abbot45freedomjazzdance, it just says "any" and doesnt give any other options.01:16
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pluggoWhat essid are you trying?01:16
robotgeekcevizoglu: hi01:16
war-totemno01:16
cevizoglurobotgeek, hi01:16
erUSULwar-totem: run "sudo apt-get install eterm" i think that it is not installed01:17
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difetahow stable is the preview release of breezy? I'd like to upgrade01:17
war-totemall i seem to be seeing is /usr/share/doc/eterm01:17
cevizoglurobotgeek, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/217001:17
abbot45pluggo, are you talking "box" as in computer or router.  ive got wired outs on my router, but not wired ins on my computer.  i took my ethernet card out to make room for other things.  i don't even think i have an extra one here.01:17
zorba64difeta: seems to be fine...X is a little laggy01:17
robotgeekwar-totem: try dpkg -L eterm01:17
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freedomjazzdanceabbot45, try iwlist scan01:18
war-totemah01:18
war-totemi got it01:18
war-totemthanks for your help guys01:18
mlopeshi. The volume control standing on the top bar only controls gnome sounds.. how can I set it up to control the master sound? sounds, etc..01:18
robotgeekcevizoglu: nope, will not work!! it's broadcom01:18
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abbot45freedomjazzdance, "eth0      Failed to read scan data : Operation not supported"01:19
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cevizoglurobotgeek, that's odd the model number matches yours.. those buggers01:19
linnerhey ya'll... how's it hangin'?01:19
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mlopestotem has independent volume control.. but I want to make it the same01:19
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robotgeekcevizoglu: i know, did the FCC iD match?01:19
cevizoglurobotgeek: guess I will get it from ebay, several sellers posted the fcc id there which I don't think can be mistaken for another model01:19
freedomjazzdanceabbot45,  is eth0 your wireless?01:19
abbot45damnit.  ive got a friend who's a linux network admin but he isn't around.01:19
abbot45freedomjazzdance, i believe so.01:19
linnerI'm curious has anyone successfully sync'd to Evolution with their palm based PDA?01:19
robotgeekcevizoglu: :)01:20
ttyS0my isp uses pap-authentication and has callback function aswell. i've tried to dial its pool but after authentication it didn't want to disconnect & wait for call and just started pppd (i'm talking about kppp, of course). any advices?01:20
cevizoglurobotgeek, no, they don't put it on the outside of the box01:20
pluggoabbot45: I meant computer, something you could connect directly to the router.01:20
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linnerIt seems I can only sync my contacts and nothing else.01:20
linner:(01:20
robotgeekcevizoglu: where did u get it from...just tell them it doesn't work, and they shud give u your $$ back01:20
abbot45pluggo, no.  i dont have a wired ethernet card in my computer.  just the wireless.01:20
difetahow do i get gamin to start upon boot?01:20
freedomjazzdanceabbot45, when you do iwconfig is this the device it shows?01:20
lilrickyanyone running breezy on AMD64 and has gotten their ATI card running 3d?01:20
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pluggoI think it's "iwlist scanning" not "iwlist scan"01:20
abbot45freedomjazzdance, yes.  its using eth0 to connect to my neighbor.01:20
cevizoglurobotgeek: yeah, I just did.. this is try #2  :P   lol01:20
cevizoglurobotgeek, I should do better on ebay this time  :)01:21
pluggoDoes your neighbor use the "linksys" essid?01:21
freedomjazzdancepluggo,  they do the exact same thing01:21
erUSULdifeta: save your sesion when you log out or shutdown your computer01:21
bushkiwlist <device> scanning (scan is an abrev that is not always supported)01:21
abbot45pluggo, does the same thing01:21
robotgeekcevizoglu: :) try looking up on the wireless cards list too, might be helpful... http://linux-wlan.org01:21
linnerhmmm... any suggestions as what I should use?01:21
pluggoAh, when I was first playing with wireless on linux "scanning" was the only one that worked :)01:21
abbot45pluggo, i dont know what, what would tell me that?01:21
difetaerUSUL, why would that help? I just rebooted a minute ago.01:21
linnermeaning what software program that will let me sync everything on my palm?01:22
popeyon hoary, I just installed some more memory in my laptop, changed the kernel to -686 from -386 and now the X nvidia module wont load.. any ideas?01:22
pluggoabbot: iwconfig without arguments should tell you what you're connected to01:22
abbot45no.  when i do iwconfig it says ESSID:"WLAN"01:22
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pluggoTry "iwconfig interfacename essid linksys" then running "dhclient interfacename" (AFTER logging off! this will break your connection! :) )01:23
linnerI'll take that as a no... or I'm being ignored. :(01:23
erUSULdifeta: sorry missread gaim :(01:23
linneraftertaf!  i didn't see you there01:23
difetaerUSUL, ahh01:23
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zorba64linner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyPalmDeviceSetup?highlight=%28palm%2901:25
linnerthank you zorba6401:25
cevizoglurobotgeek: I got the fcc id from the seller, it's PY3WG511-F and the same one is on prism54 with card id of PY3WG511-F01:25
linnerlet me check it out01:25
SuperQoh yea.. I wonder if the Treo650 will work with breezy01:25
cevizoglurobotgeek, looks like my chances of success are 90%  :D01:25
adamhillhow does one force a hardware detection? (for ethenet devices)01:25
cevizoglurobotgeek, that would be network card #6 I will try01:25
michelphi guys, i'm installing latest ubuntu amd on my new amd 64 laptop.  It came with XP.  Everything went smooth up to when I chose "resize partition automatically" now there is a blank screen and nothing is happening, although I can flip to the other consoles with Alt-F2, etc01:26
pluggolinner: I've used coldsync before when I had a Clie.01:26
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michelpkinda sounds like it is running something in the background, does resizing take a while?01:26
abbot45i just tried changing the ESSID from any to linksys.  didn't work.  is that suppost to be the default?01:26
michelpi can wait all day ;)01:26
linnerpluggo what OS was it?01:27
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Hergiswibrb01:27
linnerzorba64, I get the hotsync utility to see my palm... that's not the problem.01:27
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Hello_WorldHi, can somebody help me with my sound card? It supports 6 Channels, but only the 2 front channels actually work :(01:27
linnerzorba64, I went ahead and made the changes the article suggested...01:28
mlopescome on, doesn't anyone know how to "unify" the volume control? I just want one controller to rule them all :-)01:28
linnerzorba64, I'll let you know in a minute if it helped any.01:28
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phoenixp3kHi every one, I have a password problem01:28
funkyHatHello_World, make sure all the controls are enabled in the volume control program, and make sure that 6 channels is enabled, there may be an option for the number of channels for your soundcard01:28
pluggoHopefully I have a password solution, phoenixp3k01:29
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phoenixp3kpluggo, had the same prob last time I installed Ubunty01:29
phoenixp3k*ubuntu01:29
pluggoWhat's the problem?01:29
phoenixp3kpluggo, both root and my user password do not let me access the updater01:29
Hello_WorldfunkyHat, Thanks. All Channels are set to the max. Volume. Where can i set the nuber of channels?01:29
Hello_World*number01:30
funkyHatHello_World, click edit, preferences, and tick all the boxes01:30
ben_underscorehello all01:30
phoenixp3k/usr/bin/update-manager:01:30
phoenixp3kChild terminated with 1 status01:30
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funkyHatespecially if there's one called 'channel mode'01:30
Hello_Worldhm01:30
ben_underscorei have a problem connecting a ntfs usb drive to my ubuntu -- anyone help?01:30
Hello_WorldfunkyHat, i don't use GNOME but KDE.01:31
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pluggophoenix: Are you logged in to it now?01:31
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funkyHatoh right01:31
gnat42Hello, question on using updating some packages on breezy01:31
Hello_Worldhowever everything seems to be enabled in KMix01:31
D1anyone know how slow a usb 1.1 scanner would be?01:31
gnat42anyone know how I can update the relevant alsa packages to their development version01:31
zorba64ben_underscore: what sort of prob01:31
gnat42my soundcard01:31
gnat42is a CMedia CMI876801:32
ben_underscorezorba64, it doesn't mount01:32
gnat42and is detected as CMI873801:32
funkyHatben_underscore, , see what ubotu is about to say:01:32
funkyHat!ntfs01:32
war-totemcan someone tell me whats the off topic ubuntu channel is?01:32
ubotuntfs is, like, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.01:32
zorba64try sudo modprobe ntfs then try mounting it01:32
gnat42they have patched their snd-cmipci.c in alsa to support it01:32
phoenixp3kcan any one put me in the right direction? I'm trying to access update-manager01:32
MyLeftNutI ran the synaptic update earlier and now I can't get to log in screen. The Nvidia screen comes up but it just goes to error. I'm currently logged in through KNOPPIX so I can post logs. Tried recovery mode, no success.01:32
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naliothwar-totem: #ubuntu-offtopic01:32
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war-totemsimple enough01:33
war-totemthanks01:33
pluggophoenixp3k: Are you logged into that machine now?01:33
ben_underscorezorba64, when i plug it in, it doesn't even show up in device manager01:33
Hello_WorldMyLeftNut, we need the error messagt01:33
Hello_World*message01:33
phoenixp3kpluggo, yup I'm using the same password I used to log in01:33
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MyLeftNutHello_World, is that stored in a log file?01:33
Hello_Worldi have no ideo01:33
Hello_World*idea01:34
Hello_Worlddamn, i can't type :(01:34
xGunHey does anyone know a good tv tuner application i can use with my tv wonder pro under ubuntu01:34
pluggophoenixp3k: Did you ever set a root password?01:34
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johnnybezakxGun: try xawtv01:34
pluggoxGun: I've heard good things about mythtv01:34
phoenixp3kpluggo, yes I did01:34
phoenixp3kpluggo, I tryed it as well01:35
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difetahow can i login to my work's windows VPN?01:35
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xGunYea ive read about mythtv but im kinda still a linux noob and i heard that mythtv requires you to compile it yourself and what not.01:35
pluggodifeta: How do you log in from windows? Is it just an RDP connection or is it an actual VPN01:36
aviHello!  I just tried opening up the help menu in OpenOffice.org 1.9.125, and it told me the help system could not be started.  How can I fix this?01:36
zorba64ben_underscore: paste your output from dmesg01:36
difetapluggo, this is an auctual vpn. I need to connect to the vpn from my linux box at home01:36
pluggophoenixp3k: Try "su" then "nano /etc/sudoers"01:37
HytakHello... need help setting up ppp. I tried with KPPP, pon and pppd call provider (yes, I modified /etc/ppp/peers/provider and /etc/ppp/chatscripts) but I'll say with KPPP the problem, it's same thing iwht other: KPPP find my modem right, it dial, light open on my modem... at the last stage it stick to "Logging on to network" for about 40 secondes and then... stop everything saying me error 15... any idea?01:37
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P8ntKidHow to i reconfigure my internet connections on ubuntu? Like, i installed ubuntu with my computer connected to the internet with a wire. But how to i configure my wireless connection?01:37
pluggoWait, that'01:37
pluggos not going to work :)01:37
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aviP8ntKid: system -> preferences -> Network worked for me.01:37
paco_hey guys, I'm just curious if it's possible to write to an NTFS partition. In the getting started guide, they only show you how to mount an NTFS drive as read only, I'm wondering if they did this because it's bad to write to an NTFS partition through Linux01:37
pluggoTry su -c "usermod -G admin yourusername"01:37
neo1hi im new01:38
xGunHi neo101:38
xGunI am new also :)01:38
zorba64xGun: sudo apt-cache search mythtv01:38
Versed`P8  mine autoinstalled the wifi on installilation.01:38
naliothpaco_: writing to NTFS from linux is a good way to have an all linux box01:38
xGunzorba64: Thx mate ill try that01:38
aviP8ntKid: system -> preferences -> Networking worked for me.01:38
avisorry 'bout the typo.01:38
HytakRead my problem?01:39
paco_nalioth: in that it will screw up my NTFS partition?01:39
ben_underscorezorba64, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/217101:39
aviP8ntKid: Is your access point set up differently?  Like with WEP?01:39
phoenixp3kpluggo, messed up the command a bit01:39
P8ntKidavi: Im not sure.01:39
naliothpaco_: it can erase your NTFS partition01:39
MyLeftNutpaco_, NTFS in linux s bad news. Stay away from it.01:39
P8ntKidIts built in though01:39
aviWhat is built in, P8ntKid?01:40
paco_really? That's kind of bad for me, I'm sorry to hear that... You've ruined my day, thanks.01:40
naliothpaco_: you can read from your NTFS all you like01:40
naliothpaco_: if you need windows/linux data sharing, i'd advise fat3201:40
bimberipaco_: a workaround is to create a FAT32 partition, both systems can write to that01:40
phoenixp3kpluggo, I put my password or the admin/root psswd?01:41
paco_yea, I've noticed. That bites, all my partitions are ntfs... Now to figure out how to transfer all my linux stuff onto my ntfs drive.01:41
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MyLeftNutI ran the synaptic update earlier and now I can't get to log in screen. The Nvidia screen comes up but it just goes to error. I'm currently logged in through KNOPPIX so I can post logs. Tried recovery mode, no success.01:41
paco_is there a reliable way to make windows read my linux partition?01:41
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avipaco_: I'm in the process of configuring a dual-boot (w/ WinXP & Ubuntu)... I created a FAT32 partition, moved docs over to it, and can work just fine with them from Ubuntu.01:41
neo1why does my player not playing mp3???01:41
zorba64ben_underscore: unplug &  plug the hard drive back in, run sudo dmesg and past the last 20 lines01:41
ben_underscorezorba64, ok01:41
xGunYea i was also wondering how to get into my windows storage partition that i keep all my media files on... can't do that if its ntfs?01:41
lsuactiafnerMyLeftNut : xorg was updated, i think01:42
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CompBrainDoes Breezy just take a long time at 'Storing Language'?01:42
naliothpaco_: use Partition Magic to convert your NTFS to fat3201:42
aviP8ntKid: What do you mean, not sure?  You set up the access point, right?  Or did someone else?01:42
neo1can anybody help me01:42
lsuactiafnerso reinstall nvidia GL01:42
funkyHatxGun, linux can read ntfs fine01:42
naliothpaco_: ext2fs.sourceforge.net01:42
avianyone able to answer my question, or should I repeat?01:42
lsuactiafnerbasically, apt-get install --reinstall packages_for_nvidia01:42
paco_xGun, you can do it if you only want to read. Look up the ubuntu starter guide and look at how to mount an ntfs drive as read-only01:42
phoenixp3kpluggo, It says usermod : admin group unknown01:42
HytakHello... need help setting up ppp. I tried with KPPP, pon and pppd call provider (yes, I modified /etc/ppp/peers/provider and /etc/ppp/chatscripts) but I'll say with KPPP the problem, it's same thing iwht other: KPPP find my modem right, it dial, light open on my modem... at the last stage it stick to "Logging on to network" for about 40 secondes and then... stop everything saying me error 15... any idea?01:42
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MyLeftNutlsuactiafner,  is that verbatim what I should type?01:42
xGunpaco: ok thx01:42
lsuactiafnerubotu tell MyLeftNut about nvidia01:42
naliothavi: wait a few minutes, between repeating your question(s)01:42
funkyHatcan parted safely resize nfts partitions?01:43
paco_is there a linux program that will convert my ntfs partition to fat32? That would save me some time (It's empty at the moment..)01:43
lsuactiafnerjust follow the guy and do --reinstall01:43
lsuactiafnerpaco_ : no.01:43
aviHytak: I'd help (as I know PPP); unfort, I'm new to Ubuntu... :)01:43
naliothfunkyHat: yes, provided you defragment your NTFS first01:43
funkyHatpaco_, no, and if there was, it would break your windows installation01:43
ben_underscorezorba64, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/217201:43
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HytakIt seem no one anymore these time know ppp at all01:43
funkyHatnalioth, cool :)01:43
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xGunI have another quick question, i have an ati 9800 xt, i am wondering if I need to do any extra steps after a clean install of 5.10 preview to get 3d acceleration working?01:44
HytakThinking of changing of distro, bag, ubuntu seemed nice01:44
funkyHathmm... what about expanding vfat partitions from the beginning?01:44
Hytakbad*01:44
paco_cool, so far this ubuntu is really nice. I'm liking it.01:44
naliothfunkyHat: read the parted manpage first, eh?01:44
aviHello!  I just tried opening up the help menu in OpenOffice.org 1.9.125, and it told me the help system could not be started.  How can I fix this?01:44
funkyHat;)01:44
zorba64ben_underscore: its not even picking it up...bugger01:44
paco_of course I went a little nuts with apt-get and now my sound doesn't work... but i'll work on that. :)01:44
ben_underscorezorba64, that's what i thought.01:44
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paco_is mythtv worth switching to linux for?01:45
linnernope... now I can't get it to sync at all!01:45
linnerthis is maddening01:45
P8ntKidavi: Its not configureing my wireless setting correctly cuase im not connected to the internet.01:45
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aviwhat is mythTV?01:45
neo1???????MP3?????01:45
aviP8ntKid: do you mean your access point is not connected to the internet?01:45
paco_mythTV is some pvr software for linux that I heard about. My motivation for trying out ubuntu01:45
xGunPaco: from what i've read about mythtv, its actually easier to download Knoppmyth and install that01:45
P8ntKidavi: Yes01:45
avisweet, I gotta check that out myself.01:45
ben_underscorezorba64, it's for my wife, who has a mac powerbook. her work sent her this usb disk drive and she cannot get it to work on the mac. which is weird  because it supports ntfs (write)01:45
phoenixp3k:(01:45
P8ntKidavi: No, my wireless card isnt connecting to the internet01:45
phoenixp3k:'(01:46
paco_xGun, really? How come?01:46
naliothfunkyHat: parted is capable of many unique things. read the man page or the internet homepage for it01:46
phoenixp3kMy passwords are not working01:46
aviP8ntKid: shouldn't make a difference in connected to the access point01:46
funkyHatok, i will :)01:46
ben_underscorezorba64, so i thought i'd test it out with ubuntu -- usually works for other drives, so perhaps the drive is fucked01:46
michelpso what's the difference between "Erease entire disk" and "Erease entire disk and use LVM"?01:46
xGunPaco:  Because they have created a simple "dumbed" down install process that loads mythtv onto your pc just as if you were installing a linux distro.01:46
mlopeswhen I hit the volume up/volume down keys on my laptop (fn + f10/f11)it controls the master01:47
michelpi willing to sacrifice dual boot to get it up and running today01:47
mlopeshow can I configure it to control the headphones?01:47
neo1dann halt nicht01:47
zorba64ben_underscore: it might just be01:47
xGunRight now i'm working on getting mythTV under ubuntu, no luck yet :\01:47
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Quinthiusmichelp: one uses lvm, one doesnt...01:47
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MyLeftNutlsuactiafner,  thanks for the help, I'll let y'all know if I get on okay. Cheers guys01:47
ben_underscorezorba64, thanks for your help!01:48
michelpQuinthius, would the use of LVM be desireable for just a daily ubuntu user?  or is it harmless not to use it?01:48
paco_that bites. From what I remember, knoppMyth is using an older release of mythtv01:48
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pluggoSorry I wandered off there. My cousin called who I haven't heard from in years.01:48
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tagWhat do I use to rip a cd?01:48
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naliothmichelp: LVM is for use if you want to use more than one HD, you can safely not use it01:48
naliothtag: grip01:48
james_is there something specific I have to do to an office file, in order to get word to be able to open it properly, without it being all garbeled?01:49
michelpnalioth, thanks!01:49
aviP8ntKid:  Here's the way it works.  You connect to your access point (usually a wireless router) from your computer.  The access point connects to the internet.01:49
Quinthiusmichelp: it's fine not to use it. it allows for things like easier repartitioning, combining drives together into one "virtual" drive, etc.01:49
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P8ntKidavi: Its not connecting to my router01:49
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pluggophoenixp3k: If you just type "sudo" in a shell does it let you in with your password?01:49
zorba64james_: save it as ms word .doc01:49
pluggoer,, just "sudo sh"01:49
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avip8ntKid: exactly.  That's what I'm trying to diagnose with you...01:49
P8ntKidavi: ok01:49
P8ntKidavi: How can i configure it so it does?01:50
reikiwoot! got my mplayer plugin working in firefox :)01:50
james_ok I guess i didn't think of that duh, thank you01:50
avip8ntKid: Did you try System -> Administration -> Networking?01:50
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neo1Channel33301:50
P8ntKidavi: Yes01:50
phoenixp3kpluggo, If I just time sudo it tells me the options of sudo01:50
aviP8ntKid: Okay, what did you do there?01:50
Quinthiusmichelp: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/ for more info if you want to play around with it01:50
P8ntKidavi: Hold on01:50
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Quinthiusmichelp: main thing to remember is /boot has to be on a real partition, not a lvm volume01:51
P8ntKidavi: Nothing, cause i dont know what to do.01:51
michelpthanks guys ;) installation seems to be running normally01:51
michelp64 bits here I come!01:51
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aviP8ntKid: Okay, tell me... does it show a Wireless connection, and what is the status of it if it does?01:51
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jorgp2where do I tell hoary to use fluxbox instead of gnome?01:51
pluggophoenixp3k, sorry, I meant "sudo sh"01:51
funkyHatvermyndax, well hopefully it's the best ubuntu at least ;)01:51
phoenixp3kSee, it says: (I'M) is not in the sudoers file.01:52
vermyndaxhonestly I didn't care for the first two ubuntu releases - this preview release is the best thing I've run in a long time01:52
Quinthiusjorgp2: it's not on your Sessions menu when you log in?01:52
aviThird time, folks... if no-one can help me, I'll try a different channel: Hello!  I just tried opening up the help menu in OpenOffice.org 1.9.125, and it told me the help system could not be started.  How can I fix this?01:52
michelpshit! my .iso download was corrupt :(01:52
pluggoOK. Try "su" and type your root password, then "nano /etc/sudoers"01:52
phoenixp3kpluggo, how can I add myself in the sudoers file01:52
vermyndaxphoenixp3k: run "visudo"01:53
reikiavi: did you download and install the help system? I think you want to start synaptic and search openoffice and see if there's a help system to install01:53
pluggoAt the bottom, add a line that says "yourusername ALL=(ALL) ALL"01:53
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aviI'll give that a shot... thanks reiki!01:53
phoenixp3kvermyndax: visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied01:53
tagwow01:54
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tagI guess you can't rip a track and play it at the same time01:54
jorgp2Quinthius: thanks01:54
taghahah01:54
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peirthiesany of you by chance know a website that has some good doc on programming C in nix? more or less just looking for reference material really01:54
paco_vermyndax, what's the dif between the preview release and the others? What version are you running?01:54
pluggoheh, yeah, that may cause problems01:54
vermyndaxpaco_: running Breezy Badger01:54
reikiok I gotta ask... is there a decent GAME for linux? Like... oh I don't know... anything graphic, shoot 'em up, whatever?01:54
LadyLinuxHello all.01:54
vermyndaxreiki: enemy territory01:54
paco_vermyndax, cool. I'm not sure what I'm running. How do I find out?01:54
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peirthiesreiki: quake3, doom3, and Unreal tournament all run in here01:55
vermyndaxreiki: bzflag01:55
rob_pphoenixp3k:  you need to run visudo with root privs.01:55
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reikithanks vermyndax ... I'll google that one01:55
vermyndaxanything UT and id software runs on linux01:55
paco_ah, there we go, 5.04 - Hoary Hedgehog release.01:55
paco_what's the dif?01:55
vermyndaxreiki: enemy territory may even be in synaptic01:55
LadyLinuxbob2: Jave worked for netzero.  Modem has a bug in the ubuntu software, don't work.01:55
reikipeirthies, really?  hmmm... I might start having fun again. I01:55
james_I can't save any files to my floppy disk, when I try to it says I am not the owner of that drive, so I don't have permission to write to that folder01:55
phoenixp3krob_p, all right how do I do that...01:55
vermyndaxI have a weird OpenOffice problem too - when I run it for the first time, nothing happens... then I run it again and it pops up two windows01:56
avireiki: I can't find openoffice help...01:56
pluggophoenixp3k: su -c "nano /etc/sudoers"01:56
peirthiesreiki you need to own those games, but usually the prospective games site will have more info about it01:56
vermyndaxbut the help system isn't working for me either01:56
rob_pphoenixp3k:  open a console and type, "su" and then enter your root password.01:56
reikipeirthies, ok I'll look them up01:56
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reikiavi hold on... let me chck01:56
avireiki: I'm running a search right now... ah, fount it!01:56
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darknatureok how do i make my printer work on gnome01:57
darknatureit identified its usb connections but it won't let me print01:57
avireiki: should I be looking for openoffice.org2 help, or the standard openoffice.org help?01:57
phoenixp3kpluggo, rob_p . It's in the terminal window, I add myself there?01:57
pluggoYes. Add a line that says "yourusername ALL=(ALL) ALL"01:58
reikiavi: the standard on... listed BELOW the openoffice2 ones01:58
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rob_pphoenixp3k:  were you able to open the sudoers file with visudo?01:58
phoenixp3kit says # This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root. ( pluggo)01:58
funkyHatpluggo, no no01:58
Drehello01:58
aviOkay, I'll install that one... thanks, reiki; you've been a big help!01:58
funkyHatpluggo, just add yourself to the group 'admin'01:58
reikiavi: like... openoffice.org-help-en for english help01:58
pluggoShe doesn't have the group admin.01:58
aviP8ntKid, did you see my last question?01:58
rob_pphoenixp3k:  You have to use visudo to edit that file.01:58
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pluggoHe?01:58
james_How do I make myself the administrator?01:58
pluggoShe?01:58
pluggoNot sure.01:58
pluggo:)01:58
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funkyHatjames_, add yourself to the 'admin' group01:59
phoenixp3krob_p, yes I'm using visudo now01:59
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funkyHatanyone in the admin group has full sudo access01:59
LadyLinuxHas anyone fixed the bug in the ubuntu software for the smartlink SL1900 PCI modem?01:59
darknaturedoesn't anyone know why my printer won't print...the device manager has found the usb connections already01:59
rob_pphoenixp3k:  Ok.  Now add the line, "your_username  ALL=(ALL) ALL" to it and save it.01:59
P8ntKidavi: Yes, hold on though. Ill get back to you in a minute01:59
pluggofunkyHat: Not if the admin group doesn't exist.01:59
vermyndaxthe package is openoffice.org-help-en01:59
arcanistheroguewhat are some of the good linux habits ubuntu teaches you?  i hear this alot...01:59
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avino prob, P8ntKid, I'll be here...02:00
funkyHatpluggo, has it been deleted then?02:00
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paco_is it worth upgrading from 5.04 to 5.10 preview?02:00
vermyndaxpaco_: yes very02:00
vermyndaxpaco_: I'm lovin 5.1002:00
eriscohello, i am trying to find an adobe photoshop skin for gimp. anyone know where I can get such a thing?02:00
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pluggofunkyHat: Not sure. I tried telling him/her to add him/herself to the group admin, but usermod balked because admin doesn't exist.02:00
paco_vermyndax,  can I do it without reinstalling?02:00
gnat42anyone using a CMI8768 audio card here?02:00
vermyndaxpaco_: I dunno about that, sorry02:00
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Quinthiuspaco_: just don't expect it to work flawlessly just yet... there are still some bugs floating around02:00
harrytuttleerisco: you mean gimpshop?02:01
LadyLinuxAnyone here from TX, NM, OK area?02:01
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phoenixp3k^O is that how I save? rob_p02:01
james_in the properties of the admin group it says that I am the only group user, is that all I need?02:01
pluggoAnd just blindly adding it will give it a different group ID than it had before, so if any files are owned by the admin group they wouldn't be accessible.02:01
paco_Quinthius, that's cool02:01
darknaturedoesn't anyone know why my printer won't print...the device manager has found the usb connections already02:01
SlicerDicer-anybody know how to force eject a cd?02:01
LadyLinuxI'm wanting to find a Linux group.02:01
funkyHatpluggo, phoenixp3k, edit the file /etc/group and add a line admin:x:193:*username*02:02
SlicerDicer-I cant get my cd out and its driving me nuts02:02
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bimberifunkyHat, pluggo: my laptop doesn't have the admin group - it was upgraded from warty.  Native hoary installs have it02:02
QuinthiusSlicerDicer-: unmount it first?02:02
linnerhey ya'll ... how do I access my linux box from a windows machine?02:02
rob_pphoenixp3k:  I can't remember.  I think ctrl-x but there should be a menu at the bottom.02:02
pluggodarknature: Have you set up the printer in System->Administration->Printing?02:02
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funkyHat(note= doesn't have to be 193, that's just a good guess at a gid that's not in use)02:02
paco_linner, use VNC02:02
vermyndaxhrm now I can't even get openoffice to run... oh wait there it is... man that is SLOW02:02
darknatureyeah i have02:02
linnerpaco_, what's VNC?02:02
funkyHatbimberi, ah, makes sense now :)02:02
pluggoMy machine does have admin. It's phoenixp3k that doesn't. :)02:02
paco_linner, google it. It's like remote desktop for windows (I'm pretty sure it came out first actually)02:03
linneri want to be able to upload a file folder from my windows machine to my Linux box02:03
linneroh okay02:03
linnerpaco_, I'll find it now02:03
linnerpaco_, I should tell you the computers are side by side02:03
SlicerDicer-Quinthius, that would be all well in good if it did not say busy02:03
funkyHatpaco_, i don't think it's VNC he wants...02:03
pluggolinner: You can use filezilla (filezilla.sf.net) and upload over SSH02:03
funkyHatpaco_, he wants something through which he can transfer files02:03
SlicerDicer-Quinthius, but I killed the tasks using it and I dont really want to reboot02:03
QuinthiusSlicerDicer-: are you currently sitting in /media/cdrom0 in a terminal window or anything?02:03
linnerpluggo, is that something I can get through synaptic02:04
rob_pphoenixp3k:  Yes, it's ctrl-X and when it asks you to save the modified buffer, say, "y" and it will be saved.02:04
paco_linner, yea, if it's just file sharing, set up a network, then set up a share in windows and access it through linux. Probably the easiest way02:04
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pluggolinner: It's something you can get for Windows :) Install that on the windows box, then connect to your linux box with it02:04
SlicerDicer-ohh sure Quinthius I tried that02:04
linnerpaco_, any articles you can give me on setting up a network?02:04
bob2SlicerDicer-: really? lsof says no one is using it?02:04
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pluggolinner: You can get it from http://filezilla.sf.net/02:04
SlicerDicer-Quinthius, err I tried unmounting it manually using that argh02:04
SlicerDicer-Quinthius, sorry misred you haha02:04
LadyLinuxbob2: Hi.02:04
linnerpluggo, thanks!!02:04
SlicerDicer-bob2, sec02:04
bob2right, so you haven't checked?02:05
pluggolinner: no problema :)02:05
phoenixp3krob_p, funkyHat The visudo technique worked02:05
gnat42anyway to use oss sound instead of alsa?02:05
QuinthiusSlicerDicer-: eh? i mean, if you are currently in /media/cdrom0 in a terminal window, it wont let you unmount it. so you have to cd to a different dir first02:05
paco_linner, do you have a router set up to connect the two computers or they're just sitting side by side?02:05
rob_pphoenixp3k:  Cool!  :-)02:05
bob2LadyLinux: aloha02:05
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SlicerDicer-Quinthius, no I am not02:05
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funkyHatphoenixp3k, cool :)02:05
vermyndaxanyone know of a way to speed up openoffice startup?  use sun's java instead of blackdown maybe?02:05
LadyLinuxbob2: Smartlink files from ubuntu has a bug in them, don't work.02:06
vermyndaxtoo bad I'm on amd64 eh heheh02:06
SlicerDicer-bob2, is there any way to grep that? good god I got over 1000 lines and it overflowed my terminal heh02:06
pluggoSlicerDicer, "fuser -vm /media/cdrom0" will tell you the processes02:06
bob2SlicerDicer-: of course.....02:06
SlicerDicer-pluggo, thanks02:06
funkyHatphoenixp3k, my technique would have included using visudo anyway, so would have been more work for you anyway02:06
bob2lsof | grep cdrom02:06
QuinthiusSlicerDicer-: do lsof /dev/hdc or whatever your cdrom dev is02:06
bob2LadyLinux: how do you know it has a bug?02:06
phoenixp3kfunkyHat, it's ok :) I can enjoy Ubuntu once more!02:06
bob2oh, the linux-image/kernel-image thing?02:06
pluggoOr lsof works too :)02:06
funkyHat:)02:06
LadyLinuxbob2: Someone has a Diamond Supramax serial modem for me.02:06
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bob2cool02:07
pluggoSupramax. Now that just sounds fast.02:07
phoenixp3kfunkyHat , rob_p , pluggo : Thanks for your help Guys! :D02:07
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pluggoNo prob phoenixp3k02:07
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SlicerDicer-pluggo, bob2, Quinthius, nothing showed up02:07
rob_pphoenixp3k:  np.  have fun!02:07
reikiI remember when Telebit modems were da bomb... hehehe.... but then.... I'm old02:07
LadyLinuxpluggo: It's a 56k external.  :)02:07
reikiit was a giant leap from 300 baud to 240002:08
bob2SlicerDicer-: and 'sudo umount -l /media/cdrom0' does what?02:08
bobbyI added a script into /etc/cron.daily... how do I make cron see it and execute it when it goes?02:08
pluggobobby: chmod +x should be all you need02:08
bob2cron will ee it02:08
bobbyhmm, well it didn't work the last two days?02:08
LadyLinuxreiki: It's a better leap than a Winmodem wanna be modem02:08
bobbywhen I just ./script it executes correctly :|02:08
reikiLadyLinux, so true..... so true. I don't own any modems any more02:09
bob2bobby: ls -ld of it?02:09
pluggobobby: This may be a dumb question, but is crond running?02:09
SlicerDicer-good man bob2 thanks02:10
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funkyHatwhat's the command to turn on alsa oss emulation?02:10
funkyHatsomething like modprobe -v ......02:10
LadyLinuxreiki: Why does ubuntu have all the files for a smartlink with a bug in it?02:10
bobbypluggo, well the other things that it should do are being done02:10
bob2it's already loaded02:10
bobbyroot@itworkshop2:/etc/cron.daily # ls -ld02:11
reikiLadyLinux, I haven't the faintest idea02:11
bobbydrwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2005-09-12 16:00 .02:11
bob2snd_pcm_oss is the one02:11
bob2bobby: of the file you added...02:11
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funkyHatwhy do applications execute differently depending on whether i run them through aoss or not then?02:11
bobbyheh, missed that02:11
bobby-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 99 2005-09-12 16:00 squid02:11
bob2funkyHat: how so?02:12
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ilpavoxanyone have trouble with java plugin and firefox after installing the sun's package and checking the sym links?02:12
bob2bobby: run-parts --test -v /etc/cron.daily  | grep squid02:12
bobby/etc/cron.daily/squid02:13
bobbyno errors02:13
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bob2that sounds a lot like it should be running then02:13
bob2you're really sure it's not?02:13
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bobbydefinately, the folder where it should be moving the required file to doesn't recieve the file ... though if you run it ./squid it works fine02:14
aviP8ntKid: I'm totally willing to help, but I do have other things to do... if you're not ready for help right now, check to see if someone else is going to be around in here who can help.02:14
bobby(the squid task moves access.log to another folder for archieving)02:14
pluggobobby: is it possible it's not running with permission to access that directory?02:14
bob2mmm, you should be using logrotate for that, anyway02:14
bobbybobby, erm, how is that defined?02:15
bob2but it should be running02:15
bobbybob2, yes - I wasn't able to find good documentation on logrotate02:15
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vermyndaxis it true there's no browser plugin for sun's java on amd64?02:15
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bob2vermyndax: indeed02:16
bob2go proprietary software!02:16
vermyndaxbob2: that is some suck02:16
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vermyndaxheh so I get to run two JVM's ;)02:16
bob2well, email sun and tell them you think it sucks02:16
vermyndaxI emailed macromedia and told them what I thought of no flash support02:17
bobbybob2, got the idea of logrotate - thanks for saving me some time :)02:17
funkyHatbob2, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/217302:17
LincTeKhey war-totem did you get your network figured out ??02:17
LadyLinuxbob2: I was able to install the smarlink files from sarge debian.  The drivers I could partially install.02:17
shik45hh02:17
vermyndaxsure wish I could figure out what's up with openoffice though02:17
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funkyHatbob2, i did the same thing with skype each time before exiting, made a call to echo123 (the echo test user)02:17
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bob2LadyLinux: yeah, iirc, it depens on the wrong kernel name02:18
kkrizka_hi, how do you use usb cdroms with linux?02:18
funkyHatyes, dsp1 is the correct device :P02:18
bob2funkyHat: is something using /dev/dsp1?02:18
bob2vermyndax: it's an old old old codebase that isn't very portable02:18
bob2kkrizka_: plug them in02:18
funkyHatno, dsp1 is my second soundcard... i only use it for skype at the moment (well, i don't, cos it's not working :P)02:18
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kkrizka_bob2: dosn't work, I had to install some firmware from the vendors site02:18
vermyndaxbob2: yeah, but it's like, abysmally slow ;)02:18
bob2fuser -v /dev/dsp1 agrees?02:18
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bob2kkrizka_: er, that's pretty crap02:19
bob2is it too late to return it?02:19
kkrizka_bob2: it's quite old, I just never bothered to use it under linux02:19
funkyHatbob2, yep, no output02:19
reiki!shockwave02:19
ubotureiki: Do they come in packets of five?02:19
reikihmmm...02:19
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bob2kah02:20
reikiI have flashplayer installed ok... but not shockwave player... do I need that? :)02:20
kkrizka_bob2: I got it to detect (checked system log), but I am not sure how to mount it02:20
bob2funkyHat: dunno then, maybe aoss just doesn't work entirely correctly02:20
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funkyHatok02:20
bob2kkrizka_: look at /var/log/messages and see what device it is02:20
Quinthiusanyone here use banshee?02:20
kkrizka_bob2/etc/hotplug/usb/bpckusb: load usb/bpckusb.fw/BPINTCD.HEX for ac9/10/85 to /proc/bus/usb/002/00202:21
funkyHatwell, it 1/2 works without running it through aoss (doesn't at all if you do run it through aoss)02:21
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kkrizka_bob2: that's only thing I found to do with the filesystem02:21
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funkyHati can hear the automated voice (or any other voice) but it doesn't get any sound input02:21
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bob2kkrizka_: that means it's trying to load the firmware02:21
jake1i am soo 133702:21
bob2I'd be pretty surprised if aoss worked with input02:21
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jake1extended display rules02:21
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funkyHatbob2, well, not using aoss doesn't either :(02:22
bob2skype really doesn't do alsa?02:22
wellyHello all.. I'm trying to play an MP3 on a fairly fresh ubuntu install - getting "failed to create a gstreamer play object" when I double click on the file02:22
jake1i have a Matrix screen saver that now plays on all my monitors02:22
kkrizka_bob2: I don't see any more messages to do with usb after it02:22
funkyHatthe only options you get are the dsps02:22
SuperQanyone know what SATA cards are good with ubuntu?02:22
erUSULkkrizka_: it should be /dev/scd0 or /dev/sr002:22
funkyHati know, skype really SHOULD do alsa02:22
SuperQor better question.. what cards should be avoided at all costs02:22
Quinthiuswelly: install gstreamer0.8-plugins02:22
nalioth!tell welly about restricted02:22
erUSUL!tell welly about mp302:22
funkyHatmaybe it's worth mentioning on their forums if they have forums...02:22
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Quinthiuswelly: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:23
bob2kkrizka_: right, because it won't do anything without the firmware02:23
wellycheers guys!02:23
vermyndaxSuperQ: I'm using onboard VIA 8237 SATA for all hard drives02:23
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kkrizka_ahh, I restarted hotplug again and it detected it :)02:23
bob2SuperQ: worth reading http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html02:23
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SuperQbob2: yea.. I read that one02:24
reikiI just noticed.... Ubuntu doesn't appear to have found my Wacom tablet (it's an older one connected to a serial port) ... Should I get a new tablet? And more importantly... if I get a new one, will it work? :)02:24
SuperQbob2: I've basicaly decided to skip any card supported raid and just use md02:24
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SuperQreiki: being on a serial port, you may have to set it up manualy02:25
LadyLinuxconcept10: Hi are you there?02:25
bob2anything plugged into the serial port is going to require manually fiddling02:25
SuperQreiki: I would use http://google.com/linux to search for that wacom model specificaly02:25
reikiack... that'd take me back to slackware days :) Maybe I'll ask wife for a USB one for my birthday02:25
reiki:)02:25
SuperQreiki: heh02:26
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SuperQreiki: what model wacom?02:26
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reikiAny word on whether the USB ones work properly ?02:26
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bob2it's likely the serial one will work fine02:26
bob2once setup02:26
reikiSuperQ: it an ArtPad II a KT model02:26
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SuperQreiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WacomTabletIssue02:27
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linnerpaco_ yes, I have a router set up02:28
linnerthere are three computers (2 win, 1 linux)02:28
linnerasfdsdf02:28
linneroops sorry :)02:28
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carloshello... i have problems whit the mbr02:29
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linnerpaco_ shoot he signed off when I was researching02:29
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linnerI should say that paco_ signed off while I was researching02:30
reikiSuperQ: thanks... but that was all about USB tablets... I think I have some digging to do :)02:30
ilpavoxi apt-get the sun java package and rebooted firefox, but i am getting a plugin/vm crash when i open a hava page.  any help?02:30
Plazmais ubuntuguide.com a good online documentation? someone was telling me that it was incorrect and garabe02:30
bob2carlos: you need to ask a question...02:30
robotgeek!ubuntuguide02:30
ubotufrom memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.02:30
bob2Plazma: some of it is misleading and dangerous02:30
bob2much of it is useful, thho02:30
LadyLinuxLaters.02:30
carlosthere are support in spanish???02:30
bob2the problem is that the sort of people who use it are not the sort of people who can figure out which bits are wrong02:30
reiki!es02:30
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:30
nalioth!es02:30
bob2ilpavox: yes, java is buggy, complain to sun02:31
nfinitep1astikrofl, ubotu is multilingual02:31
Plazmabob2, oh ok, so say if im failry expierence linux user, but a bit rusty, how good is it then?02:31
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naliothnfinitep1astik: ubotu is quicker (many of us are multilingual)02:31
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Plazmabob2, pardon my mispellings too hehe02:31
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reikiwow... even the linuxwacom project doesn't support my old serial tablet. It supports some NEWER serial tablets... but not this older one02:32
nfinitep1astiknalioth: then i apologize as a lazy american02:32
bob2Plazma: not too bad02:32
bob2pjust be careful about what it says about apt02:32
bob2e.g. don't point apt at random backports sources just because it tells you to02:32
ilpavoxbob2: ok, but that does not change the fact that it should work.02:33
Plazmabob2, well i wasnt going to modify sources.list or anything unless i wanted to try bleeding edge or poitn apt in the wrong directlion, id just leave it alone02:33
sayhey all02:33
bob2ilpavox: indeed, but no one but sun can fix it02:33
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bob2Plazma: sure, shouldn't be problems then02:33
ilpavoxbob2: do you have the plugin working?02:33
naliothnfinitep1astik: i am a lazy american (who is lazily multilingual)02:33
Plazmabob2, i take it you would reccomend ubuntu highly (i know your quit ethe high roller in here)02:34
sayhow do i get gtkpod on my cpu02:34
say??02:34
sayty in advance02:34
nfinitep1astiknalioth: yeah, but you're not from ca.....at least i hope you're not02:34
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HrdwrBoBsay: your cpu is the processor02:34
HrdwrBoByou can't "get things on your cpu" per se02:34
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HrdwrBoBsay: you can install gtkpod using synaptic02:34
saycpu here is short for computer02:34
bob2ilpavox: no, it was too crashy so I stopped using it02:34
Plazma!synaptic02:34
ubotuI guess synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto02:34
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HrdwrBoBsay: no, cpu is cpu02:34
saywell02:34
pluggoHrdwrBoB: I got some dip on my chip one time.02:34
HrdwrBoBif you mean computer, say 'box'02:34
saynew york is weird i guess02:34
nfinitep1astik!caja02:34
ubotunfinitep1astik: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about02:34
saybox is pussy02:35
sayin nyc02:35
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saylol02:35
bob2Plazma: it's a pretty good OS, yeah.  quite excellent all round.02:35
FruityLoophello02:35
Plazmabob2, whats your take on slackware? just out of curioisty02:35
HrdwrBoB!tell say about synaptic02:35
bob2say: er, please stay on-topic and within the bouncs of the CoC02:35
HrdwrBoBPlazma: waste of time02:35
FruityLoopcan anyone help me02:35
saysorry02:35
FruityLoop?02:35
bob2Plazma: sounds like too much effort02:35
linnerso back to the drawing board:  I have three computers on a router.  2 are Win and 1 is Ubuntu Linux Breezy - I just want to be able to transfer files to and from any of those computers... and recommendations?02:35
say"my bust yo"02:35
bob2FruityLoop: you haven't asked a question yet02:35
pluggolinner: filezilla didn't work?02:35
FruityLoop<----- can we talk in a private dialog?02:35
bob2linner: just use window's normal filesharring stuff then02:36
bob2FruityLoop: no02:36
Discipuluslinner, Samba02:36
Plazmabob2, yea thast one thing i didtn like.. i had to compile everything from source, which wasn't to bad, but got tedious, i like how i dont even have to open a browser, just open an xterm apt-get install <package>02:36
linnerbob2, tried that... its asking me to connect to the computer... with passwords02:36
linnerand I don't know what to use02:36
pluggoFruityLoop, ask your question in the main channel and we'll try to help.02:36
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bob2linner: then tell windows to share things anonymously02:36
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linnerpluggo, unless I can do it on symantic I don't know how to do it02:36
bob2Plazma: heh, yeah, Debian and Ubuntu are good for being lazy02:36
linnerbob2, I'm confused.  How do I do that?02:37
vermyndaxanyone know how to change which Java OpenOffice2 should use?02:37
bob2linner: right clik on something in windows. share tab. ???. profit.02:37
FruityLoopok, i need Java and i dont know what i must du.... its the first time I use Linux02:37
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bob2(I haven't seriously used windows in years, I forget)02:37
linnerbob2, ok... let me go try02:37
bob2FruityLoop: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java02:37
linnerDiscipulus, what is samba?02:37
Versed`But lazy is good.02:37
FruityLoopok thx02:38
bob2samba is the linux equivalent of being a windows file server02:38
bob2veabsolutely!02:38
linneroh okay02:38
Plazmabob2, i have ubuntu on vwmare just to test it, and the only thing i didnt like was that it didnt install gcc, glibc and a few other odds and ends i would use, but i understand why cuz it seems like its geared towards those who are new and wont know much if anything about gcc02:38
linnerbob2, do you recommend samba for what I'm looking for?02:38
HrdwrBoBPlazma: build-essential has all of that02:38
pluggolinner: It's a windows program. You install the SSH daemon on your linux box (probably through synaptic) and install filezilla on the windows box.02:38
HrdwrBoBPlazma: it's not necessary for an end user to have a C compiler02:38
bob2Plazma: there were big discussions about that at the beginning02:39
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bob2linner: samba only lets your linux machine serve files, it doesn't help linux access windows shares02:39
linnerok i see what you mean now pluggo02:39
Plazmabob2, i mean its understandable, but kinda annoying in a way, i guess thast why aptitude is so nice or even synaptic02:39
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linnerbob2, oh okay02:39
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linnerbob2, what do you think about filezilla?02:39
LincTeKapt-get install smbfs02:40
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linnerguys... what is localhost.localdomain?02:40
funkyHatyour computer02:40
Plazmalinner, that is you02:40
Plazmalinner, thast your loopback address02:41
bob2linner: I have no idea what that is02:41
LincTeKhost name02:41
Plazmabob2, lmao02:41
linnerok... so that's my login to ubuntu?02:41
funkyHatit's the same as 127.0.0.102:41
bob2anything with "zilla" in the name that isn't mozilla is probably crap, tho02:41
bob2cf prozilla02:41
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kbreitWhat package can I get gtkembedmoz.dll from?02:41
linnerPlazma, so that's my login to ubuntu?02:42
Plazmalinner, no, your login name should be02:42
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PlazmafunkyHat, yes yes it is02:42
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Plazmalmao @ funky.. haha yea02:42
linnerPlazma, ok... so on windows it's asking me for the username/password for my linux box... what exactly is it referring to?02:42
erUSULbob2: samba comes whith smbclient which let you access files in win machines02:42
Plazmalinner, exactly waht its saying , your user name and password on your linux box02:43
funkyHatlinner, your linux username and password02:43
abbot45im having problems with the wifi router im setting up.  i can connect to it and change settings in it, but when i try to go to a page it says "website unavailable"02:43
naliothlinner: your linux username/pass02:43
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Plazmalinner, an account that has access to your linux box02:43
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pluggolinner: Your linux login02:43
linnernalioth, Plazma funkyHat I put that in and it didn't like it02:43
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bytefoo:|02:43
bob2kbreit: packages.ubuntu.com02:43
linnerso i'm confused if there's some funny extension or crap that it's asking for02:43
Plazmalinner, the thing i hate about myself is i make shit so much harder on me than it needs to be, just relax, grab a beer , watch som pr0n, and youll be good02:43
LadyLinuxHello all.02:43
linnerlike kelley/ENTER IP here02:43
bob2erUSUL: they're not in the sama package in ubuntu02:44
LincTeKlinner install samba and smbfs on ubuntu02:44
linnerLincTeK, ok...02:44
bob2linner: no02:44
linnerno?02:44
bytefoodudes how do i force eject a cdrom drive :|02:44
Plazmabytefoo, umount /dev/cdrom02:44
Plazmathen push the eject button perhaps02:44
LadyLinuxconcept10: You here?02:45
linnerbytefoo, the old fashioned way I did it was to use a paperclip and push in the tiny button02:45
bob2bytefoo: umount it02:45
linnerit will open the ROM whether the computer is on or not02:45
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kbreitbob2, It doesn't appear to list provided files.02:45
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linnerbob2, you say no to Samba and smbfs?02:45
linnerhow come?02:45
bob2kbreit: sure it does02:46
bytefooit says it's busy :|02:46
wellydoes anyone have any pointers to some good info on managing rights on files and directories?02:46
kbreitbob2, Where?02:46
bob2bytefoo: then find out what is using it02:46
bob2kbreit: scroll down...02:46
bob2linner: I didn't say that02:46
linnerwindows sees the linux box and linux sees the windows box but neither will let me access the files02:46
bob2linner: if you want to use windows shares from linux, smbfs is a good option02:46
bob2linner: then share things anonymously02:46
linnerusing the known passwords02:46
reikibob2: does umount -f still get used to force an unmount?02:46
bob2SMB is insecure anyway, there's no point using passwords02:46
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kbreitOh, found it/02:47
P8ntKidCan anybody help me get ubuntu to recognize my wireless card?02:47
linnerbob2, I can't find the share anonymously think you're suggesting02:47
bob2reiki: -l usually works beter ime02:47
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linnerbob2, so I'll do a google search and figure it out02:47
robotgeekP8ntKid: what wireless card do u have?02:47
linnerthanks02:47
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wellybasically got a directory, /opt/lampp/htdocs which I want to be read/write accessible by my user02:47
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pluggolinner: did you set up passwords using smbpasswd?02:47
bob2welly: then make your user own it02:47
linnerpluggo, I don't know what that is02:47
reikibob2: the -l parm tells it to unmount as soon as whatever is keeping it busy takes a break? (I'm trying to go from memory here and my memory is older than dirt)02:47
carlosi need help whit the mbr.02:47
linneris that something I do through terminal?02:47
wellybob2, ok.. thats easy enough, possibly :)02:48
carlossomebody can help me??02:48
wellyerm.. actually it's not.. i'm pretty new to this02:48
wellychmod right?02:48
bob2reiki: right, which seems to work almost always for me, for some reason02:48
P8ntKidrobotgeek: Sony Viao 803.11b02:48
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bob2welly: chown02:48
wellyoh ok02:48
D1http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006AMSI/103-4419581-9112600?v=glance02:48
D1what do you guys think?02:48
D1it works in linux02:48
linnerpluggo:  I get this:  machine 127.0.0.1 rejected the (anonymous) password change: Error was : Account disabled.02:49
linnerFailed to change password for kelley02:49
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linnerbut i'm using the one and only account I have on linux02:49
robotgeekP8ntKid: i never heard of that card :( sorry!!02:49
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linnerpluggo, I just typed smbpasswd in terminal and that's where the error came from02:49
Dredoes ubuntu's root password the same as my user account?02:49
carlosi wanna clear the mbr. how i do it???02:49
Dreis my ubuntu's root password the same as my user account?02:49
LincTeKDre no02:50
bob2Dre: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo02:50
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reikiDre: try it02:50
bob2carlos: why would you want to do that?02:50
DiscipulusDre, sudo -s02:50
LadyLinux9I got bounced off my irc.02:50
carlostank bob2.. clear the master boot record02:50
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bob2carlos: why?02:50
MyLeftNutI was in earlier, was having problems from an update earlier today. When I boot my login terminal just flashes a few times then tells me of an error "no devices found". I'm logged in now by altering the "DEVICE" entry in my xorg.conf to vesa. Can anyone help me?02:50
pluggoso linner are you logged in as root right now? If so try smbpasswd -a username02:50
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wellycool, that wasn't too painful02:51
linnerum... I don't know...02:51
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linnerI've only been doing this about a week pluggo02:51
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carlosno boot whit winXP.02:51
bob2MyLeftNut: what video card?02:51
linnerpluggo how do I log in as a root?02:51
pluggolinner: Your prompt is a # if you're root and a $ (or sometimes %) if you're not02:51
MyLeftNutbob2, Nvidia 5300Go, was working until I updated earlier on today02:51
glDahermy pppoe doesn't connect on boot up... how do I change this?02:51
wellyi'm definitely warming to linux :)02:51
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bob2MyLeftNut: breezy?02:51
bob2glDaher: sudo pppoeconf02:52
linnerpluggo, It shows me this:  kelley@Linner:~$ smbpasswd02:52
bob2iirc02:52
vanbergeMyLeftNut, same thing happened to me...02:52
linneras soon as I open terminal02:52
Dresudo passwd root02:52
pluggolinner: Type "sudo smbpasswd -a username" then02:52
linnerok02:52
reikiI've been whackin away here about 4 weeks and haven't had to log in as root. What's the need for root? I kinda LIKE not being logged in as root :)02:52
bob2Dre: there's no need to do that02:52
vanbergeMyLeftNut, just have to re-install driver02:52
Dresudo passwd root <-- this is only for root's password right?02:52
wellyok.. am i right in thinking that you can't ssh into ubuntu as root?02:52
bob2welly: indeed02:52
pluggoIt will ask for your password, then you can add an entry for your samba user02:52
bob2welly: unless you set a password02:52
LadyLinux9linner: in root terminal type - sudo passwd  it will ask for password.02:52
glDaherbob2: already did that. still doesn't connect02:52
xTinaDre: yes, that changes root's password02:52
bob2welly: ssh'ing in as root is a bad idea anyway02:52
DrexTina : thank you02:52
pluggoDre: Right. "sudo passwd someuser" changes someuser's password.02:52
wellyok.. i've ssh-ed in as my user, is there a way of changing to root without having to sudo every root command?02:53
MyLeftNutvanberge,  I tried to "Complete Remove" nvidia-glx from Synaptic, then reinstalled it after a reboot but it didn't help02:53
linnerlady02:53
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xTinawelly: sudo -s02:53
linnerLadyLinux, let me try that02:53
wellyahh ok02:53
wellythank you02:53
LadyLinux9The setup gnome to allow you to connect as root.02:53
MyLeftNutbob2, Whatever the latest is, I'm not sure, it's either breezy or hoary02:53
bob2welly: sudo -s02:53
vanbergeMyLeftNut, i installed the driver from nvidia's site... i didnt even use those two packages.02:53
holycowMyLeftNut, search for nvidia02:53
bob2MyLeftNut: er, it's a pretty important difference02:53
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bob2MyLeftNut: if you're using breezy, then please file a bug02:53
holycowand install the proper nvidia driver, nvidia glx is just one component02:53
linnerLadyLinux, ok it let me change my password but I'm not sure that it change the "root" pass02:53
vanbergeMyLeftNut, it is justa  "nvidia-driver-installer.run" file... you just "sh filename" it02:53
holycowoh he's using breezy?02:53
holycownever mind then02:53
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MyLeftNutbob2,  Whichever is the more recent of the two. Sorry, I've been up for nearly 40 hours, my memory is going02:54
vanbergeMyLeftNut, you need to have kernel headers, and nvidia source packages if i remember correctly.02:54
holycowMyLeftNut, if you are using a developer version of ubuntu you are expected to have the skills to solve it02:54
xTinafunkyHat: sudo -i simulates a fully-fledged login, while sudo -s just makes you root ($HOME will still be set to your user's home, among others) iirc02:54
linnerpluggo, I did that and it gave me another error message02:54
MyLeftNutvanberge,  I should have them from a previous installation02:54
holycowwe can't help with breezy here02:54
LadyLinux9linner: The setup gnome to allow you to connect as root.02:54
funkyHatxTina, ah, so it's the same as the difference between su and su -02:54
carloswhat do i do??? no boot when install the xp.02:54
MyLeftNutholycow, Oh, so nobodies meant to ask about anything? How are you supposed to learn then?02:55
linnerpluggo, it says:  Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user username. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?02:55
linnerFailed to modify password entry for user username02:55
xTinafunkyHat: basically, yes :)02:55
bob2MyLeftNut: breezy then, please do file a bug02:55
funkyHat:)02:55
bob2holycow: that's not true02:55
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linnerLadyLinux, oh gosh... i feel like you're talking greek to me02:55
bob2carlos: your question is "I installed Windows and now I can't boot Ubuntu anymore"?02:55
LadyLinux9linner: It's in the menu that allows you change the settings.02:55
holycowbob2, really? well i'll be :)02:55
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holycowMyLeftNut, go ahead, ask away then02:56
linnerLadyLinux, when i typed it in terminal i received no menu02:56
holycow:)02:56
LadyLinux9linner: Then log off and you should be able to logon as root.02:56
LincTeKnvidia how to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia02:56
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pluggolinner: Are you giving it the name of a user that is a valid UNIX user?02:56
linnerLadyLinux, but is that necessary if I only want to be able to share files between my 3 compuers?02:56
linnerpluggo, yes02:56
carlosno. i installed ubuntu  and now can't boot winxp.02:56
MyLeftNutholycow, I've got the info I need for another attempt. I'll let yis know02:56
LadyLinux9linner: It's on the top tool bar.02:56
linneras far as I know, I'm the only user on this box02:56
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linnermy user name is my first name02:57
holycowMyLeftNut, the only thing i will say is that if you are running breezy, expect daily or hourly breakage02:57
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bob2carlos: then get out your windows boot disk02:57
bz0bhey all02:57
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holycowits a development platform, the rest is up to you02:57
smurfwhats up everyone02:57
linnerLadyLinux, pluggo in my "users and groups" it shows me as the only user02:57
MyLeftNutholycow, I prefer to jump in at the deep end.02:57
bytefoosky02:57
vanbergewhen breezy is officially released... is it better to upgrade via cdrom, or via apt ?02:57
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pluggolinner, is that the username you're feeding to smbpasswd -a?02:57
bob2vanberge: both are the same02:57
Plazmawow.. synaptic is pretty awesome.. seems well written02:57
linneryes02:58
linnerpluggo, yes02:58
bz0bbob2, when the release of 5.10 comes out, will all the updates that are made for it be there so I can just update my version of development to like the final release version, without having to redownload the new version?02:58
vanbergebob2, i figured i could just change the repositories and run the apt-get dist upgrade or whatever...02:58
LadyLinux9linner: On the top tool bat in gnome desktop.  Click 4th from the left.  It's in the settings.02:58
holycowMyLeftNut, *nod* thats a good way as well.02:58
MyLeftNutOh, addendum, how can I remove all my Nvidia driver settings and preferences to ensure a clean install of this update02:58
bob2vanberge: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeHowto02:58
LadyLinux9bar.02:58
carlosi can't do it. i formated high disk y now can install xp... apearme MISSING SYSTEM OPERATING02:58
bob2I wonder if this upgrade to breezy will ever finish02:58
linnerLadyLinux, I'm using Breezy.. I only have 3 menu items02:58
bz0bbob2, and how do i install the drivers for my integrated ati gfx card for my notebook02:58
bob2bz0b: of course!02:58
bz0bbob2, yay!02:59
LadyLinux9Ok 3rd.02:59
bob2bz0b: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:59
smurfWhat's Breezy?02:59
smurflive cd or distro?02:59
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linnersmurf, a version of Ubuntu02:59
bz0bbob2, thanks02:59
glDaherI just don't remember how would I prevent any other program/daemon from changing a file! anyone?02:59
linnersmurf, it's in beta right now02:59
xTinasmurf: both02:59
smurfahhh02:59
smurfI shall follow this02:59
smurfjust got ubuntu02:59
glDaherbecause something changing my resolve.conf file in the background...02:59
LadyLinux9linner: It's where you change the gnome settings.03:00
mchugh24hi all, when I run netstat -vat, one of the listening ports is tcp        0      0 *:ircs                  *:*                     LISTEN03:00
mchugh24. I take it that this is the irc server, but I don't know how to turn off. Even if it is the client, I would like to turn off. It it not an option that shows up in rcconf and I can't find it in etc/rc... any ideas? thanks03:00
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bob2glDaher: that would be your dhcp client, or ppp client03:00
bob2glDaher: that's what they're supposed to do03:00
linnerLadyLinux, I've never tried to change the gnome settings... so let me tell you what I have:  applications, places, system03:00
Quinthiussmurf: it's the next release of ubuntu. current stable release is hoary (5.04), breezy is 5.1003:00
linnerLadyLinux, i would assume it's in system but I don't know what to look for since there is no "settings"03:00
bob2mchugh24: sudo netstat -plt | grep ircs03:00
smurfi see,  thx03:00
LadyLinux9linner: It will bring up a window with about 6 tabs.  One allows you to logon as root.03:00
bob2mchugh24: that will tell you what program it is03:01
mchugh24ok hold on03:01
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LadyLinux9linner: Yes.03:01
xTinaAnyone with Breezy and RealPlayer installed around?03:01
brad[] Is the Breezy installer going to ask about LVM in the final release? I can't imagine any end-user is going to comprehend what that is.03:01
glDaherbob2 , but it puts a wrong nameserver... and I have to edit it regularly to access dns correctly03:01
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linnerLadyLinux, the closest thing i have is boot or users/groups03:01
bob2glDaher: then get your ISP to fix it03:01
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bob2glDaher: until then, you can configure dhcli or ppp to not do it03:01
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Quinthiusbrad[] : well, lvm is becoming more popular... i think in fc3 or 4, it's used by default even..03:02
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carlosbob2.. there ara some manual???03:02
zdenniswhat is a good cd ripper that rips to mp3?03:02
dalamaranyone have issues with kde apps suddenly dissapearing from the gnome menu? installed klibidio and k3b, had icons in the menu, now no dice?03:02
war-totemaudacity?03:02
P8ntKidHow do i add a wireless connection to ubuntu?03:02
bob2zdennis: abcde and sound juicer03:02
LadyLinux9linner: I have the earlier version.  There is a terminal command.  I don't remember it.03:02
mchugh244204/rpc.statd. is that for NFS?03:02
dalamarzdennis, lame is good03:02
vanbergebob2, just out of curiosity, what window manager do you use?  i think im guessing you as a open box guy03:02
brad[] Quinthius: Yeah - that's what I'm thinking though - if LVM is available, why not just use it by default? Joe average won't know the difference03:02
bob2P8ntKid: depends on your chipset03:02
gooktimezdennis: grip + lame03:02
vanberge:-)03:02
zdennisSound Juicer doesn't have mp3 as an output03:03
bob2vanberge: metacity03:03
linnerLadyLinux, ok... I do appreciate your time and help.  thank you!03:03
Riddelldalamar: it's a known issue in breezy03:03
bob2zdennis: it does if you install the right gstreamer thing03:03
reikizdennis: I used SoundJuicer but you have to install a couple libs and configure it03:03
snausageszdennis, you can configure it to do so03:03
LincTeKgoogle dual boot ubuntu and winxp to get some help carlos03:03
bob2mchugh24: yes03:03
P8ntKidbob2: ok? When i go to system/admin/Networking, i dont have a Wireless connection there.03:03
LadyLinux9linner: Your welcome.03:03
dalamarRiddell, ah okay, thats cool then .. just added some icons to the panel. works fine too03:03
bob2mchugh24: ubuntu does not run any daemons by default, tho, so if it's running it's because you installed it03:03
Quinthiusbrad[] : well... i guess cause it's not popular ENOUGH yet, and there can still be some complications during recoveries and such03:03
bob2P8ntKid: that's not useful03:03
mchugh24thanks for the info!03:03
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bob2P8ntKid: what sort of card is it?03:03
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P8ntKidbob2: Do you need to see my wireless chipset?03:03
zdennisok, will try abcde first03:03
brad[] Quinthius: Hrm.. it's just so daunting to ask the question during the installation program :\03:03
Quinthiusbrad[] : it would be nice if they added a brief description, though (if they dont already)03:04
brad[] Quinthius: Maybe hide it behind an 'advanced options' button03:04
bob2P8ntKid: if you want any help, yes03:04
Drehi03:04
P8ntKidbob2: Im getting it now03:04
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DreI would like to thank Ubuntu for the shipment of CDs03:04
Dre:)03:04
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carlostank you linctek and you bob203:04
linnerubotu tell unix commands link03:04
mchugh24I do have NFS running. The ircs name in netstat confused me03:04
LincTeKhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto03:05
Dremay I know if there is a site for 1st time users of Ubuntu03:05
P8ntKidbob2: Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)03:05
vanbergeDre, ubuntuguide.org03:06
Drethank you vanberge03:06
dalamar!ubuntuguide03:06
ubotuubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.03:06
LincTeKhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation#head-19e51e4331625e264a28ed6c484b946c86882d1503:06
vanbergeDre, no problem... that is a very good site03:06
glDaherbob2: I am sure pppoe gets the dns server name right, but seems that dhclient is setting it to my dsl modem.. and replacing the whole contents, where do I find the dhclient config?03:06
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LadyLinux9laters.03:06
reikizdennis: try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CDRipping03:07
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glDahermy bad: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf03:07
bob2right03:07
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=== brad[] wonders if a suggestion on the installation program would be accepted this late in the game
vladuz976can someone help me? how do i add a directory to my path for all users?03:07
pluggoP8ntKid: You need the madwifi drivers. I'm not sure how to install them on ubuntu, though :)03:07
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bob2vladuz976: editing /etc/bash.bashrc might work03:08
bob2P8ntKid:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto03:08
plagerismI am having trouble burning data cds with both graveman and k3b in breezy.  Is this a known issue??03:08
zdennisthanks for the link reiki03:08
LincTeKvladuz976 i learned it in class but forgot .. need my book sorry03:08
neirasHey there - I have a nice ubuntu-desktop install, but I want to remove it and all its parts so I can try kubuntu. Doing apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop only removes the ubuntu-desktop package itself, not its reverse dependencies. Does anyone know how I could do that?03:08
reikizdennis: I followed those instructions and ripped a CD in a few minutes after03:08
bob2plagerism: is it in the BTS?03:08
xTinaneiras: you don't need to remove it03:09
bob2neiras:  you don't need to remove them, but debfoster would be handy03:09
neirasxTina - I am aware of that, but I have limited HD space and WANT to remove it.03:09
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reikineiras: I think you can just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:09
vladuz976bob2, what would i edit in there?03:09
plagerismbob2, ya know what, out of all the things I have learned about Ubuntu, the location of the bug tracking system I have not03:09
reikiahhh03:09
neirasreiki - I'll run out of spaced if I just do that03:09
bob2vladuz976: add a lie setting the path...03:09
ripgutCan anyone help me to get my zen micro working in ubuntu03:09
bob2plagerism: it's in the channel topic...03:09
Riddellneiras: you don't need to remove it but removing libgtk2.0-0 will kill all gnome stuff03:09
reikineiras: ok... I saw that you mentioned that while I was typing :)03:10
neirasbob2 - I'll have a look at debfoster03:10
plagerismbob2, that would seem logical03:10
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P8ntKidWhats the comand i can run to do the network setup wizard again?03:10
vanbergeP8ntKid,  sudo shutdown -h now   :-)   just kidding!03:11
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LincTeKlol03:11
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neirasSay I want to remove all packages on my system *except* those depended on by ubuntu-minimal - is there a decent way to do that?03:11
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LincTeKnerias probally better to do server fresh install03:12
bob2neiras: yes03:12
ripgutanyone?03:12
bob2neiras: sudo aptitude, hit M on the "installed packages" item, then select ubuntu minimal for install (+)03:12
LincTeKand use a small window manager like fluxbox or xfce03:12
bob2ripgut: google didn't know?03:12
ripgutnope03:12
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mchugh24thanks again for the help.03:12
pluggoripgut, what's a zen micro? One of those creative mp3 players?03:13
ripgutyea03:13
eviananyone here use gnucash? is it good?03:13
pluggoripgut: It's probably showing up as a generic usb mass-storage device.03:14
ripguti did a "lsusb" and it lists a "Bus 001 Device 004: ID 041:411e creative Technology, LTD"03:14
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bob2that just means it's electrically on the usb bus03:14
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ripguttaht what i was thinking too03:14
ripgutso what do i do03:14
LincTeKhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-34018.html zen micro help03:14
pluggoripgut: Do you have any other USB or any SCSI devices?03:14
ripgutno03:14
ripgutjust this03:15
pluggoTry sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda03:15
P8ntKidWhat is the comand to reconfigure my network connections? Like the network wizard that i did when i installed ubuntu?03:15
LincTeKripgut http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-34018.html03:15
linnerpluggo you asked me before ( i think) if I had smbfs installed... I don't because it won't let me03:15
linnerpluggo, so does this mean that i can't file share with windoze?03:15
pluggolinner, wasn't me :) I was telling you to use filezilla03:15
linneroh okay03:15
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pluggolinner, did you try "sudo modprobe smbfs"?03:15
ripgutwhat does taht do pluggo, i did that and it didnt do anything03:15
P8ntKidWhat is the comand to reconfigure my network connections? Like the network wizard that i did when i installed ubuntu?03:16
linnerno I'll try it now - I was using synaptic...03:16
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pluggoripgut: it should see if there's a partition table on your micro or not03:16
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bob2P8ntKid: did you read that URL or not?03:16
Carpe_LibertatemHas anyone successfully installed e17 on Breezy?03:16
P8ntKidbob2: Yes, i didn.03:16
P8ntKidbob2: Yes.03:16
pluggoripgut: It doesn't look like it does though, did you try the url that LincTeK posted?03:16
linnerpluggo, i does nothing when i type that in terminal03:17
linnerpluggo do you use filezilla?03:17
ripgutim looking at it right now, but its kinda overwhelming03:17
ripgut:|03:17
P8ntKidbob2: But, i think i did something wrong when i installed ubuntu and didnt configure my wireless adapter03:17
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pluggolinner: No output is usually a sign of success in most programs including modprobe. Do "sudo grep smbfs /proc/filesystems".03:17
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reikiripgut: seen this? http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/03:17
linnerok03:17
linnerone moment03:17
linnerthe out put is:  sudo grep smbfs /proc/filesystems03:18
bob2P8ntKid: yes, indeed, but that doesn't matter03:18
linneroops03:18
ripgutyea03:18
LincTeKripgut i have a nomad 2 running on ubuntu03:18
ripguthmmm03:18
linnerpluggo, the output is nodev   smbfs03:18
LincTeKripgut ck out http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-34018.html03:18
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P8ntKidbob2: So what would you like me to do?03:18
pluggolinner: Excellent, you should be able to do "mount -t smbfs -o username=windowsusername,password=windowspassword //windowsmachinename/sharename /mnt/somedirectory"03:18
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pluggoExcept with a sudo at the beginning of that03:19
linneroh god... pluggo....03:19
bob2P8ntKid: follow the steps on that page03:19
linnerpluggo, i have NO IDEA what you're talking aboutr03:19
pluggohaha03:19
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linnerpluggo, do i really paste all that?03:19
LincTeKlinner do you have folders on windows shared ??03:20
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linneryes03:20
Carpe_LibertatemHas anyone had success installing e17 on Breezy?03:20
pluggolinner: Just type "sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=whateverusernameyouuseforwindows,password=yourwindowspassword //machinename/sharename /mnt/somedirectory03:20
linnerLincTeK, yes03:20
linnerok03:20
pluggolinner: You have to change parts of that though to match your configuration03:20
P8ntKidbob2: Can you post the link again. sorry :(03:20
LincTeKlinner i just installed samba and smbfs and was able to see windows shares03:20
bob211:08:16           bob2 | P8ntKid:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto03:20
CapriI've just upgraded to Breezy and I am missing the nvidia kernel module. Is this known?03:21
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bob2Capri: is there a bug reported yet?03:21
neirasbob2: thanks for the package management tips03:22
neirasbig help03:22
pluggolinner: So if your username is "foo" and your password is "bar" on windows and your machine name is "baz" and your share name is "bletch" you'd do "sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=foo,password=bar //baz/bletch /mnt/floppy"03:22
bob2yeah?03:22
linnerLincTeK, I can't install smbfs03:22
linnerok i see03:22
ripgutcan someone help me in pm?03:23
ripguti downloaded and "cd'd" into the gnomad2 directory03:23
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LincTeKsudo apt-get install smbfs03:23
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linnerLincTeK, i've tried.. i get errors03:24
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Capribob2: nothing related to missing kernel module file.03:24
smurfCan anyone tell me how to set a root password, so I can 'su' instead of 'sudo'?03:24
linnerLincTeK, thanks thought03:24
LincTeKwhat errors ??03:24
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HrdwrBoBsmurf: that's not recommended or required for anything03:24
CapriDoes anyone use Breezy with its nvidia driver?03:24
pluggosmurf: "sudo passwd root"03:24
linnerpluggo can I pm you03:24
HrdwrBoBsmurf: you can get a root shell with sudo -s03:24
HrdwrBoBbut as pluggo said, sudo passwd root03:25
geyzercheck your apt sources linner03:25
pluggolinner: sure, but you've got to register with NickServ before /msg works here03:25
snausagesis it possible to "force-eject" a cd?03:25
linnerI already am03:25
snausagesthe damn thing won't eject03:25
pluggosnausages: why isn't it ejecting? In use?03:25
ripgutwith a small pin you can forceecect a cd03:25
ripgutforce eject*03:25
snausagesno, just doesn't want to03:25
bob2Capri: file it!03:25
smurfwhy is this not recommended?  I've gotten used to using SU on other linux os03:25
bob2smurf: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:25
snausagesi was using grip, and it finished but didnt eject it. even though i have it configed to do so03:25
linnerUsage: mount -V                 : print version03:25
linner       mount -h                 : print this help03:25
linner       mount                    : list mounted filesystems03:25
linner       mount -l                 : idem, including volume labels03:25
linnerSo far the informational part. Next the mounting.03:26
linnerThe command is `mount [-t fstype]  something somewhere'.03:26
brennersnausages: right-click > eject on desktop icon?03:26
linnerDetails found in /etc/fstab may be omitted.03:26
LincTeKsnau umount /medias/cdrom03:26
linner       mount -a [-t|-O]  ...     : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab03:26
linner       mount device             : mount device at the known place03:26
pluggosnausages: do "fuser -vm /media/cdrom"03:26
snausagesbrenner, no go03:26
smurfthanks03:26
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linner       mount directory          : mount known device here03:26
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ripgutwhat does this mean?03:26
ripgutchecking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c03:26
ripgutchecking whether build environment is sane... yes03:26
ripgutchecking for gawk... no03:26
ripgutchecking for mawk... mawk03:26
ripgutchecking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes03:26
ripgutchecking whether make sets $(MAKE)... (cached) yes03:26
ripgutchecking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c03:26
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naliothno pasting in here!03:26
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LincTeKok everyone goodnight03:26
brennersnausages: i think you can do sudo eject /dev/cdrom ... or something like that03:26
nmstryodanalioth, thanks03:26
bimberiquickdraw nalioth!03:26
naliothuse #flood or a pastebin03:26
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naliothread the bloody /topic03:26
Dreis it possible to play games in Ubuntu?03:27
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bob2nalioth: /remove is usually simpler03:27
evianso I've been looking at gnucash here and it looks pretty good functionality-wise, but it looks ugly with gtk1 graphics03:27
Drelike warcraft? doom3?03:27
Drecounter-strike?03:27
naliothbob2: ok still learning03:27
snausagesah, i restarted gnome and it worked.03:27
brennererm, grub boot options.  what exactly does 'noapic' and 'nolapic' do?03:27
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vladuz976can someone help me editing my path variable?03:28
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ripgutdd03:28
bob2linner: ripgut do NOT paste stuff in here, it floods the channel and annoys everyone03:28
ripgutim sorry03:28
brennerevian: afaik, you're stuck with gtk1 unless someone rewrites it03:28
bob2vladuz976: same as yo uset the var anywhere03:28
ripgutdoes anyone here have gnomad2-2.81 installed?03:28
brennera la xmms03:28
bob2vladuz976: export PATH=$PATH:/blah/03:28
linnerbob2,  I'm sorry... I thought I sent it to pluggo in a PM .. that's why i asked him if I could PM him03:28
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vladuz976bob2, but that is just for that terminal, when i log in again it's gone right?03:29
evianthanks for the info brenner03:29
bob2vladuz976: so, as I said earlier, put it in /etc/bash.bashrc03:29
brennerevian: np03:29
vladuz976bob2, i don't understand what i need to do in there03:29
vanbergevladuz976, or move whatever binary file you are trying to execute into a dir that already is part of your path03:29
snausagesanother question: is there a way to adjust the mplayer mozplugin buffer?03:30
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bob2vladuz976: put the line I just gave you i nthere03:30
vladuz976vanberge, can't do that to many03:30
vladuz976bob2, where in /etc/bash.bashrc03:31
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bob2vladuz976: at the end...03:31
ripguti dont understand the instructions on that link03:31
ripgutthere has to be a way to get this to work03:32
bob2and I'm sure there is03:32
vladuz976bob2, whats the differnce betweenputting it there or in .bash_profile03:32
ripgutme too03:32
bob2I don't see where you explained what was wrong, tho03:32
brenneranyone? grub boot options...what exactly do 'noapic' and 'nolapic' do? i need to use them to fix a certain problem, but i'd like to know what they're actually disabling03:32
PhoenixP3KHello, I'm back with my questions (hope some day I'll be good (skilled) enought to help others03:32
bob2vladuz976: man bash, INVOCATION explains when each is used03:32
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ripgutok i downloaded the 2.8.1 ver of gnomad203:32
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ripguti extracted it03:32
bob2brenner: APIC = advanced programmable interrupt controller03:33
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ripgutand "cd'd into that directory03:33
PhoenixP3KI need to add a program to the Application pannel in Gnome, I have no idea on how to do it03:33
ripgutnow what do i do03:33
bob2brenner: it's supposed to make interrupt handling faster or something03:33
bob2ripgut: you read the instructions03:33
bob2PhoenixP3K: /msg ubotu smeg03:33
ripgutwell, yes03:33
brennerbob2: cheers...would you know about the lapic one as well?03:33
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ripgutbut i gotta get it installed first03:34
ripgutthat is where im stuck at03:34
bimberiripgut: look for a README file, and perhaps an INSTALL file (not shouting, they're frequently in caps)03:34
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brennerripgut: is there a README or INSTALL file?03:34
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ripgutyes the readme gets me to the "./configure" step then i get an error at the end03:35
brennerripgut: if you're installing from source, you can probably just use checkinstall to make things real easy03:35
bob2brenner: local apic03:35
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hussamI need help. I can't connect to security.ubuntu.com this IP http://82.211.81.151 times out03:35
bob2ripgut: then paste the error to #flood03:35
brennerripgut: we need the error. :) usually it means you're missing some libraries03:35
xchesswhich release should i go with: 5.04 or 5.10 preview?03:35
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bob2xchess: 5.0403:35
brennerbob2: thanks again03:35
manjihey, why does my new ubuntu 5.10 beta install not have `make` on it? isn't this a fairly normal feature!?03:36
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ripgutcan someone join me in #flood03:36
manjiappreciate any help03:36
xchessbob: great, i just installed 5.10 by accident03:36
bob2hussam: works here, guess it's a problem with your network03:36
xchessbob: heh03:36
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PhoenixP3Kbob2, thx I'll go get that smeg programm03:36
bob2ripgut: just paste it...03:36
brennermanji: install build-essential...should be on CD03:36
bob2manji: install build-essential03:36
xchessbob2: time to reformat03:36
manjibrenner: bob2: thanks guys03:36
brennermanji: ubuntu "is" a desktop distro after all....most people won't need it03:36
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xchessbob2: thanks03:36
Zodiacomg03:36
bob2brenner: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APIC03:36
bob2xchess: well, you can leave it03:36
bob2bah03:36
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ripgut*pasted*03:36
ZodiacI am upgrading my laptop to breezy as we speak ...03:37
Zodiac*bites fingernails03:37
brennerbob2: neat...thanks for googling for me. :D03:37
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remyforbes777anyone use ubuntu 6403:37
benplautplenty03:37
benplautbut not me :P03:37
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bob2brenner: heh, I was curios myself :)03:37
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remyforbes777cant get it to work on my amd 64 laptop03:37
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bob2ripgut: install gnome-devel and build-essential03:37
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bob2remyforbes777: be a lot more specific03:38
ripgutwahts the cmd for that bob203:38
moshewhen breezy comes out, do I simply replace every instance of the word "hoary" with the word "breezy," apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade?03:38
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vanbergehas anybody installed quake2 before on ubuntu?  this is my second day struggling with this :-(03:38
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othernoobhow much does a computer scientist earn in the US?03:38
benplautmoshe: from all the "base" repositories, yes03:38
moshecool03:38
benplautfrom ones you added, yourself, no03:38
mosheso easy even I could do it. :)03:38
robotgeekothernoob: #ubuntu-offtopic, please03:38
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othernoobrobotgeek: is there ever any actual talk in offtopic?03:39
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robotgeekothernoob: maybe, maybe not03:39
Razor-Xj #ubuntu-offtopic03:39
bob2ripgut: how have you installed things in the past?03:39
brennerbob2: heh...here's my problem if you're curious: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5309403:39
robotgeekRazor-X: hi, long time!03:40
bob2vanberge: yes...03:40
ripgutsome03:40
bob2mombof: wiki/BreezyUpgradeNotes03:40
vanbergebob2, i feel like a total noob... but i just cannot get this figured out03:40
brennerbob2: i'm getting 50% at idle (but top shows low usage) and my clock is indeed going too fast03:40
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ripgutok im installing gnome-devel from synaptic03:42
ripgutbut i cant find Build essentials03:42
Agrajagyou mean build-essentials?03:42
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Agrajager03:42
ripgutyea03:42
snausagesripgut, sudo apt-get install build-essentials03:42
Agrajagbuild-essential03:42
Agrajagno s on the end03:42
ripgutok03:42
snausageserr03:42
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ripgutwow 100 files for gnome-devel :|03:43
D1my kingdom for a working linux scanner! ;[03:43
snausagesthats right, no 's'03:43
ripgutand im on a 128k downstream connection03:43
ripgut:(03:43
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brennerripgut: could be worse...you could be on dialup03:43
ripguti know03:44
ripguti shouldn't complain either, because i got this zen brand new for free03:44
snausageswhat's all required to build stuff from source? i know there's build-essential, the xml parser thing... what else03:44
bob2snausages: build-essential is enough to compile basic things03:44
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cfh_devanybody know why amarok is not in breezy?03:45
bob2things may require other libraries, but there''s no no general list03:45
snausagesi tried to install gaim 1.5 and i was missing a bunch of stuff03:45
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crimsuncfh_dev: it is.03:45
snausagessuch as the xml parser03:45
ripgutman i love linux03:45
bob2snausages: then you need to install that stuff, too03:45
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jtan325gahhhhhhhhhh i am having the weirdest problem ever. firefox is hanging when i try to load certain websites... gmail works, ubuntuwiki/forums work, lots of things work, but anandtech.com doesn't work, and some other sites seem to trip firefox up03:45
ripguti love the headaches it comes with03:45
bob2snausages: sudo apt-get build-dep gaim would  get most of it03:45
cfh_devcrimsun: hmm, I switch my repos from hoary to breezy and synaptic wants to remove amarok.  Any thoughts?03:45
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snausagesmost03:45
crimsuncfh_dev: you must be using hoary-backports?03:45
jtan325i've tried reinstalling, upgrading, all that03:46
bob2Clujo: synaptic/apt won't remove things just because they don't exist in a newer release of your OS03:46
cfh_devcrimsun: I don't have that in my repos list03:46
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Clujogotcha , bob203:46
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crimsuncfh_dev: dpkg -l amarok|grep ^ii03:46
bob2cfh_dev: did you in the past?03:46
jtan325i haven't done anything firefox related either, i can't imagine how i messed this up03:46
bob2er03:46
bob2Clujo: oops, didn't that for you03:46
cfh_devcrimsun: nope03:46
Plazmabob2, i want to personally thank you for the help youve given me, and to others who may not have been so greatful for your help03:46
ripgutok, so after i get build-essential and gnome-devel installed i should have no problem installing gnomad2?03:46
Clujoit was wisdom nevertheless03:46
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crimsuncfh_dev: "nope"?03:46
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bob2heh03:47
bob2Plazma: heh, np03:47
cfh_devcrimsun: I didn't have backports in the past03:47
bob2ripgut: it's a start03:47
cfh_devcrimsun: dkpg.. => ii  amarok         1.2.3-1ubuntu403:47
Plazmabob2, im sure you get it all the time, and not sure what its worth to you , but i felt like it needed to be said03:47
jtan325anyone have any ideas on how to debug/fix this?03:47
ripguti appreciate the help guys, really03:48
dabaRWhat is a gui sftp program?03:48
crimsuncfh_dev: are you dist-upgrading?03:48
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bob2Plazma: I do appreciate it, thanks :)03:48
Nexinarusyeh thanks bob2 for you're help in the past also03:48
bob2dabaR: gnome's file manager does that03:48
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cfh_devcrimsun: yes, I think so.  Anywhere that had hoary in the sources.list I've changed to breezy03:48
dabaRoki.03:48
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crimsuncfh_dev: what's the message regarding apt wanting to remove amarok*?03:48
Plazmabob2, no problem, you irc guys have caught my interest and even though im not nearly as kowledgable as you or others, i plan on sticking around for a while03:48
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cfh_devcrimsun: synaptic just has that amarok* will be removed.03:49
Nexinarushmm when i close my laptop lid, and lift it back up, the screen goes all black03:49
brennerit's a lovefest in here. :)03:49
ripgutbeep media player is better imo03:49
ripgutbut to each his own :)03:49
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bur[n] e1amarok is awesome... too bad it's qt ;)03:49
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ApostolsSaludos03:49
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ApostolsAlguien que hable espaol?03:49
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hou5tonanyone know why Ubuntu didn't join Debian Common Core Alliance (DCCA)?03:49
ripgutyo no habla espanol03:50
bob2!+es03:50
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:50
bob2hou5ton: because it hasn't done anything useful yet03:50
Nexinarusthey dont want allies? :p03:50
brennerNexinarus: standby maybe?03:50
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Nexinarusmaybe.. just can not figure out how to stop it03:50
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Nexinarusor make it go back to the desktop03:50
hou5tonbob2: that really isn't a good reason ... it's a new organization for a good purpose .... needs people to start it up03:51
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Nexinarusim getting SDL-devel :p03:51
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miguelhello03:51
smurfno c compiler??? whatever!  ::goes to install it::03:51
bur[n] e1smurf: get build-essential even03:52
Nexinaruswhat are they?03:52
smurfthanks, you saved me some menu hopping time03:52
geyzerhow is ubuntu as a server and multi-user machine (for remote program compiling, testing etc)03:52
Nexinarusgood for server imo03:52
war-totemcan anyone tell me whats a better/other alternative to nautilus?03:52
brennerbob2: hang on...i just read that wikipedia link...acpi's to do with intel machines...er, i've got an amd03:53
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robotgeekwar-totem: rox-filer03:53
vanbergebob2, i think i am really close to having quake2 work... but i get the following message:03:53
vanbergeError: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx03:53
war-totemthx ill check it out03:53
sn0nanyone know why gstreamer-ffmpeg is lagging behind ? (and breaking mpg playback in the procesS)03:53
ripguti think most linux distros are good for server purposes, linux itself is not a resource hog03:53
geyzerNexinarus, ripgut: ok thanks, just wondering if i should change to debian03:54
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ripgutis build -essential a smaller package?03:55
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jmgwho maintains ubuntu.com ?03:56
ripgutme03:56
jmgthe web page03:56
dabaRok, well, I have a ssh, and a sftp server on my computer, redundant?03:56
jmgid like to ask some technical questions :)03:56
ripgutask here03:56
jmgabout Plone and moinmoin03:56
jmghow you got them to work together so convincingly03:57
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jtan325gahhh both epiphany and firefox hang when i try to go to www.anandtech.com03:57
jtan325but many other sites work03:57
dabaRjtan325: ping.03:57
jmgi want to pervasive wikify our intranet03:57
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jmghow cool is that phrase03:57
jmgi should be a phb03:57
ripgutim your father03:57
Clujossh is a secure shell to another computer.  sftp is an file transfer util.  different.03:58
jmgtroll03:58
jtan325dabaR, "ping www.anandtech.com" seems to return nothing03:58
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ripgutmy bad03:58
dabaRjtan, like packets lost?03:58
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jtan325yes03:58
jtan325pinging google.com and other sites works03:58
dabaRjtan, site down.03:58
HrdwrBoBClujo: sftp is layered on top of ssh03:58
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HrdwrBoBit's the same basic thing03:58
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Carpe_LibertatemWhat's a good minimal IRC client that will let me have transparent backgrounds?03:58
sn0nProgram received signal SIGFPE, Arithmetic exception.03:59
sn0n[Switching to Thread -1232757840 (LWP 28224)] 03:59
sn0n0xb6162d07 in gst_ffmpegdeinterlace_register ()03:59
sn0n   from /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstffmpeg.so03:59
sn0noops..03:59
dabaRClujo: well, what then, why say in nautilus, you use ssh as the service type...and in windows, the secure ssh program...it uses ssh to copy files, and so on...whats the deal?03:59
sn0nsry bout that guys03:59
nfinitep1astikCarpe_Libertatem: irssi is pretty minimal03:59
dabaRHrdwrBoB: worked out ok, I did not get in much trouble.03:59
benplautCarpe_Libertatem, BitchX, then edit your terminal to be transparent03:59
HrdwrBoBCarpe_Libertatem: irssi03:59
HrdwrBoBdabaR: good to hear03:59
HrdwrBoBbenplaut: irssi > bitchx03:59
benplautbah :P03:59
Carpe_Libertatemty04:00
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nfinitep1astikirssi == terminal based irc client04:00
war-totemrobotgeek, rox-filer is great04:00
jtan325dabaR, i don't think it's a site down issue though04:00
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makkkdoes anyone know why i get: 'Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/Packages.gz  404 Not Found04:00
makkk'?04:00
jtan325this has been going on for more than a day04:00
robotgeekwar-totem: cool, i don't use one04:00
benplautheh04:00
benplautcool04:00
jtan325and it's not just anandtech04:00
dabaRjtan325: traceroute. its no installed by default.04:00
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naliothmakkk: cuz his server is turned off atm?04:01
war-totemyou recommended it though?04:01
concept10makkk: remove that from your sources.list04:01
hussamare there any mirrors to archive.ubuntu.com that are off ubuntu.com ?04:01
brunolimahey04:01
makkkconcept10, but i want freenx for breezy04:01
brunolimahow can i put som service on the boot ?04:01
dabaRhussam: think about security.04:01
brunolimawithout breaking the gnome system ?04:01
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dabaRbrunolima: dont use some.04:01
makkkdoes anyone know where else i can get freenx for breezy if not at seveas?04:01
vbgunzhello everyone!04:02
concept10makkk: like nalioth said... he doesnt keep his server on all day04:02
dabaRyo vbgunz .04:02
yasserhey how can i backup opera cookies/cache & gaim chat logs.....so I can have all that back...im formatting my hd.plz help!04:02
ripgutman, installing and updating from apt-get or synaptic is like sex!04:02
vbgunzhello dabaR04:02
makkkconcept10, so just wait till later or is there a different source that you know of?04:02
hussamdabaR: what do you mean?04:02
vbgunzdoea anyone know how to get the terminal to open up at the same place at the same width?04:02
brunolimadabaR, i made a firewall script and i'd like to put on the boot04:02
sn0nyasser, just save the dotfolders04:02
dabaRheh, as a side note, I am bringing about 20 ubuntu live and insatll cds to a unix class at my university thursday:)04:02
vbgunzand height*?04:03
anomalyriggut hard, fast and a little confusing?04:03
yasserno but im formatting my home04:03
concept10makkk: I dont know where you might get it.04:03
ripgutyea04:03
jtan325dabaR, so something like "traceroute www.anandtech.com"?04:03
dabaRhussam: you know why I insatll everything from ubuntu.com? cause I dont like viruses.04:03
makkkconcept10. ok thanks04:03
dabaRjtan325: exactamant, please excuse my french.04:03
sn0nyasser, is you want to 'backup' anything.. you save the dotfolders.. thats a pretty simple concept04:03
dabaRbrunolima: sounds good, put it in the right folder. I never did this, though, its like /etc/init.d or something.04:04
yasserhey im formatting home...but i want opera cookies/cache & gaim chat logs back....how do i back them up so I can reuse them?04:04
anomalyI am used to *bsd using mkisofs and burncd, does anyone do any cli linux cd writing?04:04
jtan325dabaR, sooo what am i supposed to see?04:04
jtan325or how should i make sense of the traceroute output?04:04
dabaRjtan325: exactly what you said.04:04
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jtan325oh it's doing something04:04
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jtan325goiing through devner, chicago, etc.04:04
dabaRah...paste it, or something. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl04:04
brunolimadabaR, i put it there04:04
dabaRbrunolima: as I said, I never did this.04:05
brunolimadabaR, but when i didi that my gnome didnt started up04:05
sn0nyasser,.. AGAIN.. save the dotfolders.. its not that hard.. mv ~/.* /backup/04:05
sn0nthen move it back later04:05
ripgutok, installed gnome-devel04:05
concept10makkk: http://freenx.berlios.de/download.php04:05
rob_pbrunolima:  There are several ways to do it but usually just making sure it follows conventions (start/stop arguments, etc.) and then putting in in /etc/init.d.  Once you've done that, just use the update-rc.d tool to add it to the desired run levels.04:05
ripgutand tried apt-get install build-essential but it says i already have it04:06
ripgut0.)04:06
jtan325dabaR, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/217404:06
makkkconcept10, I'm seeing forum postings about problems with this site... has it worked for you?04:06
dabaRya somewhere on their subnet its borked.04:06
dabaRjtan325: do you have a router?04:06
jtan325yes04:06
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ripgutooookkaaaay, so what do i do now guys?04:06
bimberiripgut: fine, retry your ./configure04:06
ripgutsame thing bimberi04:07
concept10makkk: I havent tried. Just download them and try, or compile yourself.04:07
makkko04:07
makkkk04:07
dabaRjtan325: see the last IP it fails on? it is very similar to the one you are trying to get to, you can see that from the first line.04:07
jtan325ok04:07
dabaRI mean, the last IP it works on..04:07
dabaRthe first that times out, is your router.04:07
bimberiripgut: i guess, although someone did suggest checkinstall which might be a good idea (but optional)04:07
dabaRrouters dont like pings.04:07
BlueEaglereiki: I'm alive, yes.04:08
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dabaR /traceroutes04:08
dabaRjtan325: remember this, taht is basic network troubleshooting.04:08
jtan325what?04:08
reikiwow... BlueEagle... that was from HOURS ago when I was still at work! hehehe04:08
jtan325sorry, i am really bad with networking stuff04:08
vbgunzreally quickly, anyone know how to get the terminal to open in the same position at the same width and height?04:08
dabaRjtan325: the traceroute, and ping. which is also the extent of what i Know:)04:08
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BlueEaglereiki: Well, better late then never, right?04:08
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jtan325all i know is iwconfig, ifconfig, dhclient...04:08
reikiBlueEagle: it is good to know that you are still among the living however :)04:09
dabaRvbgunz: same as what.04:09
BlueEaglereiki: Hehe.04:09
linuxpoetO.k. does anyone know why it takes so ***long*** to encode MP3s in Linux versus Windows04:09
reiki:)04:09
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andyslHey...04:09
BlueEaglelinuxpoet: Are the parameters the same (ie bitrate and so on?)04:09
ripgutcheckinstall is not a recognized command04:09
vbgunzI mean it always opens up small up on the middle of the screen... currently I have it flushed to the bottom of the screen from left to right... it doesn't open like that and no options to have it open like that are visible...04:09
BlueEaglelinuxpoet: Also, I would recomend using .ogg instead of .mp304:09
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linuxpoetBlueEagle: yes... this is actually something I have observed over time04:09
linuxpoetBlueEagle: When .ogg works in my car... I will gladly use it04:10
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BlueEaglelinuxpoet: Bahh, stupid people with cars... :p04:10
andyslI'm running Ubuntu Breezy Preview 5.10 and I am trying to use the nvidia-glx drivers with X.org.  However, it fails to load at a resolution higher than 800x600.  I know for a fact that it should support 1024x768.  I'm on a Toshiba Satellite 2415-S205.04:10
linuxpoetheh04:10
PhythonNewcan anyone help me how can i add a new drive04:10
HrdwrBoB!resolution04:10
uboturesolution is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:10
andyslThis is a clean, fresh install of Ubuntu Breezy Preview 5.10, not an upgrade from Ubuntu Hoary.04:10
benplautwhoa!04:10
brennerripgut: you need to install it, although you should maybe check if you have all the libraries 1st...i'm not sure how checkinstall checks for those04:10
PhythonNewits file system is FAT3204:10
benplautthe official firefox build is frickin fast!04:10
BlueEagleandysl: which driver is set in your xorg.conf?04:10
andyslBlueEagle:  "nvidia"04:11
PhythonNewand its partition in 20 20 G04:11
naliothbrenner: checkinstall calls dpkg which checks04:11
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brennerbenplaut: 1.0.6?04:11
BlueEagleandysl: How is your monitor configured?04:11
brennernalioth: ah, ok04:11
dabaRlater.04:11
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vbgunzno one knows how to get the terminal to open the same way it closed?04:11
benplautbrenner, yeah04:11
smurfyou set it as nvidia even if you install the glx from the package manager?04:11
benplauttons faster at page rendering04:11
andyslBlueEagle:  Not sure, I'm going to try this FixVideoResolutionHowto WIKI really quick.  I will get back to you shortly.04:12
andyslThank you.04:12
bimberiripgut: checkinstall is in (yet another) package - hopefully a bit smaller this time :).  I've not used it though but it does sound like a good idea04:12
naliothvbgunz: you need to set your termrc or something like that with dimensions04:12
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ripgutso what do i need to do04:12
BlueEagleandysl: Well I'm going off. Just popped by to check if I had any msgs in my away log.04:12
ripgutinstall checkinstall?04:12
vbgunztermrc is a command ? I'll try it04:12
naliothvbgunz: check google for "xterm settings" or something similar04:12
PhythonNewcan anyone help me how to add a new drive04:12
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robotgeekPlazma: great!04:13
naliothvbgunz: no, anythingrc is anythings setting file04:13
bimberiripgut: i would (fwiw)04:13
PhythonNewits file system is FAT3204:13
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PhythonNewand its partition in 20 20 G04:13
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naliothvbgunz: you have all kinds of *rc files to tell your programs how to work04:13
BlueEaglereiki: How is your usb drive working? Still going strong?04:13
brennerbimberi: a *very* good idea....most useful thing afaik, is that you can remove the package later....i don't know how the heck you'd do that with a source package. (well, besides a make uninstall)04:13
vbgunzone question... what is the official way to ask for help on the command line? is it /? -? --? /help -help OR --help?04:13
Plazmarobotgeek, im excited as all hell now hehe im giddy04:13
ripgutok im installing checkinstall, thank you04:13
brenners/afaik/imo04:13
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robotgeekPlazma: :)04:13
reikiBlueEagle: yes... thanks! :)04:14
BlueEagleVery good. :)04:14
vbgunz*rc files manipulate configurations then correct nalioth?04:14
inva|idhow would I open a gnome session on :1 (using breezy) .. it seems just to open a blank X window with the old method04:14
reikiindeed04:14
bimberibrenner: yes, that's exactly what i was thinking.04:14
naliothvbgunz: usually programname --help04:14
ripgutok so i did a "checkinstall" and got an error saying: installation failed. Aborting package creation"04:14
pluggovbgunz, it varies, but usually -?, --help or no arguments (as well as "man command"  or "info command") should do it04:14
naliothvbgunz: on most programs, yes, the *rc tell it how to act04:14
vbgunzoh ok so to --help, perfect.. I am proud... I am actually remembering some commands important to me04:14
brunolimai found a bug on Ubuntu04:15
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inva|idbrunolima: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/04:15
brenner<command> --usage is also nice04:15
ripgutsays "no rule to make targer "install". stop"04:15
vbgunznice... so cool, thank you fellas, I'll look into man pages soon, I heard I should be looking at them04:15
cfh_devHow come dist-upgrading from hoary to breezy removes amarok*, k3b and others?04:15
andysllets see if this works04:15
andyslb4b04:16
vbgunzthanks again fellas, I am starving and the wifey cooked some feti and chicken, thanks!04:16
bob2cfh_dev: that's very unlikely to happen unless you've been using non-ubuntu apt sources04:16
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cfh_devbob2: amarok shows ubuntu4 in dpkg's package name.  Anything else I can check?04:17
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vbgunznot sure if ya got my message, THANKS!04:17
vbgunzgotta go!04:17
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brennerripgut: maybe you got the wrong package?  do you have a link?04:17
ghost_does enyone know what might be wrong with my cd burner keeps on telling me to insert a blanck cd04:17
ripgutnaw i just did what yall told me to do04:17
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kuko_wenas04:18
ripgutand taht was "apt-get install gnome-devel04:18
kuko_soy novato alguien me xa una mano04:18
brennerripgut: er, no...i mean....what exactly are you trying to install04:18
ripgutgnomad204:18
brenner?04:18
ghost_??04:19
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ghost_with the gnome cd/dvd writer04:19
iratsubesides mplayer, can any media player play subtitle files?04:19
ghost_not my burner cause its fine04:20
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brennerghost_: places > home > go > cd/dvd creator04:20
bob2HrdwrBoB: you're evil04:20
ghost_it wont burn it tells me to put a blank cd in04:21
HrdwrBoBbob2: muahahaha04:21
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carthikI have 1.25 Gigs of Memory on this laptop, but the "System Monitor" and top tell me I only have 885.4 MB -- why could this be?04:21
bob2carthik: what cpu?04:21
carthikbob2: pentium m 1.3 Ghz ("centrino")04:22
holycowcarthik, your using the wrong kernel04:22
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bob2carthik: sudo aptitude install linux-68604:22
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carthikholycow, I know - but earlier that did not show me i had less memory than I have -- and in any case 386 should work fine04:22
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HrdwrBoB386 will work04:23
HrdwrBoBbut it doesn';t have saupport for > 880 mb ram04:23
carthikbob2, shouldnt 386 work just fine though - and use the right amount of memory?04:23
brennercarthik: nope...386 has a limit iirc04:23
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holycowno, the 386 kernel is not compiled to see more than 800 ram or so04:23
bob2carthik: no04:23
bob2carthik: using above 896MB of RAM needs a special kernel option04:23
carthikHrdwrBoB, bob2, brenner - super! thanks04:23
holycowit will work you will only have what you have available04:23
bob2and involves slowing down RAM accesses04:23
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bob2so the 386 one doesn't have it04:23
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ghost_???04:24
carthikalso -- have heard that linux tries to use around 90%+ of the ram for caching/paging to optimize performance -- why doesnt mine do this? Is this also related to the -386 image?04:24
brunolimai reported the bug04:24
bytefoo/usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/libgtkembedmoz.so: Could not find one of the dependencies04:24
bytefoo:(04:24
brunolimahope they can make for final 5.1004:24
brunolima:)04:24
brennerghost_: i've heard of this before...search the forum04:24
ghost_k04:24
ghost_thnx04:24
brennerripgut: just a sec...looking at the gnomad site04:24
bob2carthik: the kernel does not know about any ram on your machine above 896MB04:25
ghost_im out cya04:25
bob2bytefoo: don't use prelink04:25
bytefoowhat why04:25
carthikbob2 - yes, but it does not use 90% of the memory it does know about?04:25
bytefooall the forums say to use it :|04:25
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bytefoocrap there is so many dependency errors :/04:25
brennerripgut: er, gnomad2 seems to be in the repo...04:25
bob2carthik: give it time04:25
ripguteh?04:25
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bob2bytefoo: the forums are inhabited by people who apparently have little understanding of what they are doing04:26
brennerripgut: why are you installing from source if it's in the repo04:26
brenner?04:26
carthikbob2, oh, okay, I see - it is because i dont leave the laptop turned on, unlike the desktop -- thanks again04:26
ripguti dunno04:26
bytefoowell crap :/04:26
ripgutwhat do i do04:26
bytefoois it going to explode my kernel, what with all these errors :|04:26
bytefoonon-PIC shared library and such :|04:26
brennerripgut: enable universe repo, then: sudo apt-get install gnomad204:26
bob2carthik: right04:26
brennerripgut: and it's installed..... :)04:27
bob2carthik: it only caches things you acceess04:27
bob2bytefoo: non-PIC shared libraries are bugs anyway04:27
brennerripgut: ALWAYS check the repo first...i should've done it earlier04:27
bob2but prelink shouldn't make things break04:27
ripgutit installed ^.^ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111104:27
bytefoook04:27
brennerripgut: you're doing things the hard way04:27
ripgutim a noob04:27
bytefoowell out of curiousity, why shouldn't i use it?04:27
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brennerripgut: via apt-get?04:27
ripgutyea04:27
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brennerripgut: ok, well, lesson learnt. :)04:27
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imterrohey guys...04:27
ripgutso now....04:27
ripgutwhat do i do04:28
imterrohow would you add someone to the sudo lis?04:28
ripgutto access this thing04:28
brennerripgut: this isn't windows, you don't have to hunt around anymore...generally. :D04:28
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brennerripgut: run it04:28
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brennerripgut: search in the apps menu, or type gnomad2 in a terminal04:28
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brennerprobably04:28
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brennerubotu: tell imterro about sudo04:28
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ripgutok, it starts but it gives the error, "no jukebozes found"04:29
ripgutjukeboxes*04:29
paladin2I just wanted to start by saying thanks - my brother in law turned me o to linux awhile about 6 months ago, I onstalled Ubuntu, and I'm never going back!  :)04:29
brennerripgut: er, do you have it plugged in?04:29
bimberiimterro: sudo adduser <username> admin04:29
ripgutyup04:29
brennerpaladin2: good to hear. :)04:30
bimberiimterro: members of the admin group get sudo access04:30
bimberionya paladin2!04:30
brennerripgut: dunno....start reading the docs i guess. (i don't have a jukebox)04:30
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paladin2In six months, I've gotten so much more out of ubuntu than I did out of windoze in years.  Good job guys.04:31
ripguti dont either, this is a Zen Micor, but i was told gnomad2-2.8.1 would work with this04:31
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carthikOne question -- When I install something and get "Suggested" packages -- why are they suggested? Do they add functionality and should I install them?04:31
paladin2I didn't need any help, just wanted to give kudos... :)04:31
andyslOkay, I'm back.04:31
brennerripgut: crap...the repo version is only 2.504:31
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andyslI still cannot make my resolution 1024x768.04:32
khermansis it okay to change all hoary in sources.list to breezy to test out?04:32
bimbericarthik: sometimes they are the related help files or the like04:32
khermansi am on amd6404:32
andyslkhermans:  I tried that, and it failed it.04:32
brennerripgut: you'll have to go back and install from source.. :-/04:32
ripgutok, so how do i do that04:32
khermansandysl, how can i try breezy without reinstall?04:32
andyslPlease help me out someone who knows about Toshiba Satellite 2415-S205.04:32
brennerkhermans: if you test, it's hard to go back. :)04:32
xuniluserHi! Do you know how to use dongle-based windows apps in wine? Example: MultiSIM04:32
andyslkhermans:  I tried doing a dist-upgrade, but the systme became very slow.04:32
carthikbimberi, i get binaries and drivers too, sometimes - like nvidia-glx for limux-686, for example...04:32
andyslkhermans:  I just did a straight install from scratch.04:32
khermansbrenner, well yes04:32
brennerandysl: post your xorg.conf file to pastebin in topic04:33
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andyslbrenner: ok04:33
Ruggycan anyone point me to the best deal they know of for a nice laptop?04:33
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rabbitman1968i need some help04:33
khermansugh, my system is basically hosed -- i wanted to install drscheme, which is not available in hoary amd64 -- so i trued grabbing from debian stable repos, and munged my system badly04:33
rabbitman1968please04:33
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bimbericarthik: yeah, i just trust the package maintainer :)04:33
brennerripgut: which package did you get from the SF site?04:33
DaTwokan someone help me?  im a complete linux n00b & im trying 2 mount my hard drives04:33
carthikbimberi, so should i installed the suggested package or not?04:33
ripgutgnomad2-.2.8.104:34
khermansi wanted to build drscheme from source on amd64, but it failed during "sudo make install"!04:34
brennerkhermans: ouch04:34
rabbitman1968i am also a noob and I really need some help installing Yahoo Messenger04:34
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carthikrabbitman1968, use gaim04:34
brennerripgut: file format?04:34
bimbericarthik: only if you know you'll need it04:34
rabbitman1968yes, but i need the voice features in YM04:34
carthikrabbitman1968, it is already in Application -> Internet on your desktop04:34
brennerripgut: i.e. rpm or tgz?04:34
ripgut.tar.gz04:34
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rabbitman1968right, but u cant talk thru gaim04:34
ripguttgz04:34
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paladin2Actually, come to think of it, I do have a problem - whenever I try to install Wine with Winetools, it freezes while installing IE.  Go figger.  M$ manages to mess up linux too...04:35
andyslhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2175 <--04:35
brennerripgut: ok, and using checkinstall says no make install target?04:35
andyslbrenner, sorry: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/217504:35
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ripgutill paste the error checkinstall gives me in #flood04:36
carthikrabbitman1968, never been in that situation - maybe you can install yahoo's own linux client if that supports sound?04:36
brennerripgut: hang on...i'm not in tehre yet04:36
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rabbitman1968right..i'm so new to this..i've dl'ed the debian ym04:36
andyslbrenner: o_O04:36
rabbitman1968how do i install it?04:36
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carthikandysl, have you looked at http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/hosted/satellite2415-s205.html04:36
PhythonNewcan anyone help me how can i add a new drive04:36
waltmani installed ubuntu from the 5.10 preview release.  it looks like there's a problem with the default x config.  when i try to run a simple app like xlogo, it says "Warning: Cannot convert string "xlogo32" to type Pixmap"04:36
brennerripgut: ok04:36
miguelhello04:36
carthikrabbitman1968, the instructions should be at the webpage, or in the download04:36
hybrid_gothrabbitman1968: dpkg -i <deb>04:36
brennerandysl: ?04:36
waltmananyone know what's causing that?04:36
andyslbrenner, sorry: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/217504:36
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DaTwokan some1 halp me mount my hard drives?04:37
carthikrabbitman1968, add a sudo to the beggining of that command...04:37
DaTwo*help04:37
rabbitman1968yes..i see that everywhere, 'type dpkg -i <deb>04:37
carthikDaTwo, what seems to be the problem?04:37
rabbitman1968WHERE do i type that?04:37
carthikrabbitman1968, in a terminal window04:37
brennerandysl: yeah, i'm loading it04:37
hybrid_gothcarthik: ty i forgot04:37
carthikrabbitman1968, Applications -> System tools -> Terminal04:37
brennerripgut: you're invoking it wrong04:38
carthikrabbitman1968, the terminal is your friend :)04:38
ripgutok04:38
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carthikhybrid_goth, not at all :)04:38
ripgutso how do i invoke it right?04:38
brennerripgut: cd into the directory you extracted the source to04:38
rabbitman1968thre's not a TERMINAL in APP>system tools04:38
DaTwoim not sure how to mount drives.  i've tried to do it using the terminal & the root terminal but i dont really know what im doing04:38
ripgutim in the directory04:38
brennerripgut: actaully, been a while since i used it04:38
carthikDaTwo, okay, where are the drives at? in an external hard disk?04:38
brennerripgut: man checkinstall04:38
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ripgutok04:38
brennerandysl: er, you don't have any mode lines04:39
ripgutnow what04:39
andyslbrenner?04:39
andyslwhat's a modline04:39
str8edge!repositories04:39
ubotufrom memory, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96904:39
DaTwothey're local hard drives  hda1 & hdb104:39
brennerripgut: find out how to use it... :-/ sorry04:39
ripgutdamn....04:39
DaTwointernal04:39
andysli thought modelines dont exist in x.org04:39
andyslo-o04:39
rabbitman1968Terminal is not in that list..how do i make it show up?04:40
carthikDaTwo, and are those windows partitions?04:40
brennerandysl: why wouldn't they?04:40
DaTwoyes04:40
DaTwontfs04:40
brennerripgut: sorry...it's been a while since i used it...but you're nearly there!04:40
ripguti know i am04:40
ripgutthank you btw04:40
carthikDaTwo, and if you open /etc/fstab can you see entries corresponding to the partitions?04:40
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bimberiripgut: did you get ./configure to work?04:40
brennerripgut: sure.04:40
ripgut./configure doesn't work04:41
rabbitman1968carthik...how do i get TERMINAL to show up in System tools04:41
carthikrabbitman1968, it is already there....04:41
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ripgutactually it did04:41
brennerbimberi: he's trying checkinstall04:41
rabbitman1968i'm telling u..it's NOT listed04:41
zdennisi've got a text file that says it is *busy*. How can I determine what has it open so I can remove it?04:41
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bob2"you"04:41
brennerripgut: i'd still use checkinstall...04:41
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carthikrabbitman, okay, if you can find it now, press "Alt"and"F2" together04:42
bimberibrenner: i know, but doesn't checkinstall only do the "make install"?  ./configure and make have to be done first (unfortunatly i am guessing though)04:42
rabbitman1968k..04:42
brennerandysl: did you run the reconfigure for the xorg package on the wiki?04:42
carthikand then in the "Run Application" window that shows up, type gnome-terminal04:42
DaTwono04:42
brennerbimberi: does it all afaik04:42
bimberibrenner: ah, k :)04:42
ksmurfwhat is the easiest way to convert a .bin to .iso?04:42
brennerbimberi: i was told it even installs the deb package it makes04:42
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bz0bhey all04:42
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bimberibrenner: yep, read that too :)04:43
ksmurfhey bz04:43
carthikDaTwo, use the name (nickname) of the person you are talking to, so everyone knows who you are talking to04:43
carthikubotu tell DaTwo about ntfs04:43
bz0bcan someone tell me what ipp and sometimes-rpc3 are, because i just nmaped myself, and i dont know how to stop those04:43
carthikDaTwo, check what ubotu told you :)04:43
brennerbimberi: would you know of the usage syntax? :)  i forgot and ripgut needs it.04:43
remyforbes777i cant get ubuntu 64 to get past the login screen on my amd 64 laptop04:43
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DaTwocarthik, ok04:44
PhoenixP3KDoes anyone remembers the name of the app to edit GRUB ?04:44
bimberibrenner: just simply "checkinstall" (in the dir) from what i can tell04:44
remyforbes777it keeps freezing on kde and gnome04:44
rabbitman1968carthik..i enter the command and here's what i get ' requested operation requires superuser privilege04:44
rabbitman1968'04:44
bz0bPhoenixP3K, its called finding the grub file and opening it with gedit04:44
bob2PhoenixP3K: "a text editor"04:44
carthikrabbitman1968, did you enter only just "gnome-terminal" ?04:44
bz0bbob2, hehe, yup!04:44
ripgutwell checkinstall and ./configure both are not working04:45
rabbitman1968yes04:45
carthikrabbitman1968, are you using Kubuntu (kde) ?04:45
rabbitman1968no..ubuntu04:45
rabbitman1968just  ubuntu04:45
carthikrabbitman1968, that is wicked/strange04:45
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carthikrabbitman1968, is this not your own computer?04:45
PhoenixP3Klol I know you can use the text editor :p but I recall using a nice little programm once :(04:45
rabbitman1968carthik, should i switch to Kubuntu04:45
carthikrabbitman1968, oh no, that is not needed04:45
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rabbitman1968carthik..it's mine..i just installed ubuntu...made a 20 gig partition...and installed04:46
brennerripgut: errors?04:46
bz0bbrb guys, moms just made some true itallian style spaghetti! :P04:46
ripgutill post them04:46
bz0bor as somepeople call it, Prego!04:46
bz0bhehe04:46
ksmurfwhat is the easiest way to convert a .bin to .iso?04:46
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carthikrabbitman1968, hold on a sec, pls04:46
rabbitman1968ty04:47
brunolimaksmurf, bin2iso04:47
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rabbitman1968lmao, bz0b...it's the best04:47
remyforbes777anyone know why ubuntu 64 would keep freezing up on login on my amd 64 laptop04:47
Blue-Boxwow04:47
ksmurfbrunolima where from?04:47
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Blue-Boxa lot of people04:47
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DaTwoubotu, how do i use the utility?04:47
ubotuWish i knew, DaTwo04:47
reiki:)04:47
remyforbes777it does it with kde and gnome04:47
carthikDaTwo, ubotu is a bot :)04:47
bob2there is no "ubuntu 64"04:48
DaTwoubotu, lol ok ill try 2 figure it out04:48
ubotuDaTwo: I give up, what is it?04:48
bob2anywhere, ever04:48
DaTwocarthik, ok lol04:48
bob2remyforbes777: have you filed a bug?04:48
DaTwocarthik, do u know how 2 use the utility?04:48
carthikrabbitman1968, doesnt your menu look like this: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=305&slide=49 ?04:48
ripgut*both errors posted*04:48
bob2ripgut: wtf04:48
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bob2ripgut: gnomad2 is in ubuntu04:48
remyforbes777anyone know why ubuntu 64 would keep freezing up on login on my amd 64 laptop04:48
remyforbes777it does it with kde and gnome04:49
rabbitman1968carthik,  what menu?04:49
bob2remyforbes777: have you filed a bug or not?04:49
brennernalioth: bob2 he needs the latest version04:49
brennerwhoops04:49
remyforbes777no04:49
bob2wtf04:49
bob2remyforbes777: then do so04:49
carthikrabbitman1968,  the screenshot that i just linked to - dont you have a menu like that?04:49
bob2ripgut: sudo apt-get build-dep gnomad204:49
bob2ripgut: then it will compile fine04:49
carthik(a menu is a list of things).... ?04:49
brennerbob2: you wouldn't happen to know checkinstall's usage syntax would you?04:49
remyforbes777there is an ubuntu for amd 64's isnt there04:49
remyforbes777i downloadedthe iso ima ge for it04:49
bob2no, I don't use checkinstall04:49
naliothbrenner: what version is that?04:49
bob2remyforbes777: yes04:49
luckyabayes04:49
rabbitman1968carthik, let me look04:49
remyforbes777ok04:50
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brennernalioth: 2.8 iirc04:50
PhoenixP3KFound it :p Grub Conf (grubconf) for lazy people and pro-GUI guys :D04:50
carthikDaTwo, there are instructions in the file ??? seventh line or so...04:50
naliothbrenner: sorry i'm lost.04:50
DaTwocarthik, thanks! :D04:51
brennernalioth: nvm, you would know checkinstall's syntax though ...how do you invoke it again?04:51
rabbitman1968Carthik, just like that except NO 'Root Terminal' between "New Login' and 'Run as Different User'04:51
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bob2ripgut: run that command04:51
carthikrabbitman1968, do you have the "Terminal" second from bottom like int he screenshot?04:51
TokenBadcan use apt-get to get pine for ubuntu?04:51
bob2TokenBad: perhaps the source is in multiverse04:52
carthikrabbitman1968, that is a screenshot from a fresh ubuntu install, and yours should be the same unless you changed something - which you said you havent04:52
rabbitman1968Carthik, 'Terminal' or 'Root Terminal' are NOT in that LIST in my MENU04:52
naliothbrenner: it should automagically do it's duty when installed from the repos. use it in place of "make install"04:52
brennerbob2: damn, that's a useful command alright.04:52
bob2it's not in ubuntu itself because ubuntu isn't allowed to include it04:52
ripguti did bob204:52
bytefoois there a way to reload the time daemon :|04:52
brunolimagoing for sleep04:52
ripgutstill don't work04:52
brunolimabye04:52
rabbitman1968carthik, i havent changed anything as i dont know how04:52
TokenBadI did apt-get install pine04:52
brennernalioth: ah, ok, so just run in the dir...thanks04:52
TokenBadit didn't work04:52
TokenBadsay it couldn't fine it04:52
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bob2TokenBad: yes, it's not in ubuntu04:52
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rabbitman1968carthik, should i reinstall Ubuntu?04:52
carthikbob2, why would someone's ubuntu not have menu entries for Terminal post-install? beats me?04:52
bob2TokenBad: because the license forbids ubuntu or anyone else to include it04:52
DaTwocarthik, should i run it in terminal or root terminal?04:52
carthikrabbitman1968, i dont know, we'll find out soon04:53
bob2carthik: dunno, but if it's breezy they should be filing a bug04:53
bob2assuming they have ubuntu-desktop installed04:53
carthikDaTwo, in a normal terminal04:53
rabbitman1968ty04:53
ThisGuyHey, I came across this on the forums today, has anyone else seen it?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64629&highlight=EasyUbuntu04:53
carthikDaTwo, the sudo takes care of things04:53
TokenBadso just have to download the deb and install it?04:53
bob2ripgut: "don't work"? what did apt do when you ran it?04:53
carthikrabbitman1968, did you download "Breezy" ?04:53
bob2TokenBad: no04:53
ThisGuyWrite it down, give it to beginners.04:53
bob2TokenBad: as I said, you need to get the source and build it04:53
bob2I wish the forums people would write proper documentation and put it on the wiki04:54
rabbitman1968carthik, NO. what is BREEZY?04:54
carthikrabbitman1968, looks like you downloaded the image for the upcoming release's testing version04:54
TokenBadoh...that sucks04:54
bob2TokenBad: yes, pine is very old and non-free04:54
rabbitman1968carthik...of course i did.....where do i get a working version?04:54
carthikrabbitman1968, do you have the link from where you downloaded the image for the installation?04:54
bob2TokenBad: why not use mutt instead?04:54
war-totemwhats the command to search for a file?04:54
war-totemthrough a terminal04:54
TokenBadmutt does that to?04:54
rabbitman1968carthik, sure i do, let me reboot into my stupid winxp pro and find it04:54
bimberiwar-totem: locate <file>04:54
carthikrabbitman1968, hold on04:55
war-totembimberi, thank you04:55
bob2TokenBad: mutt is a console mail client, yes04:55
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bimberiwar-totem: yw04:55
paladin2Hey again.04:55
TokenBadshoot...I had total wrong program in mine04:55
carthikrabbitman1968, before you do that let me tell you where to get the right one04:55
rabbitman1968carthik..cool..tks04:55
carthikrabbitman1968, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ -> please get the one under "HOARY" only....04:55
TokenBadI mean the program for running windows program under linux04:55
rabbitman1968carthik.....i'll have to burn another cd?04:55
paladin2I need help getting inkscape .42 to work -> unmet dependencies.04:55
TokenBadnot cedega04:55
TokenBadbut the other that was before that04:55
ghost_wats the ubuntu-desktop pakage04:56
carthikrabbitman1968, the second set of download links -- HOARY is what you want :)04:56
bob2TokenBad: wine04:56
TokenBadthats it04:56
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carthikrabbitman1968, unfortunately you seem to have issues with the cutting edge version being tested, so yes, you will have to reinstall :(04:56
ghost_it pulls in for uninstall wen i try to uninstall cd/dvd creator04:56
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bob2paladin2: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood04:56
TokenBadjeeze forget my head if it wasn't attached04:56
DaTwocarthik, what does it mean by "save this file on your local hard drive"04:56
rabbitman1968carthik. ok..THANKS for your help. will i be able to burn that image thru ubuntu i have?04:56
TokenBadsorry bob204:56
paladin2no problem. gimme a minute04:56
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carthikrabbitman1968, maybe not... download and burn somewhere where you know you will be able to burn -- to avaoid wasting time :)04:57
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khermansanyone running mozilla-thunderbird on AMD64?04:57
khermansi think i found a security vulnerability04:57
brennerquick question: how do i close an irssi "screen"04:57
brenner?04:58
bob2brenner: a window? /window close04:58
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ghost_??04:58
brennerbob2: worked. thanks04:58
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bob2carthik: known issue04:58
ndisyhello, can anybody direct me on how to install gnome 2.12 in ubuntu hoary?04:58
rabbitman1968carthik.....how can i download that file to anywhere but this fat32/ubuntu partition?04:58
carthikbob2, thanks :)04:58
RoballegroHelp! The last set of autoupdates evidently freaked the HZ setting for my monitor. All I get is a rolling screen now. How can I patch the ubuntu display settings to get my display back?04:58
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brennerRoballegro: reconfig the xorg package04:59
zefyrushi all04:59
carthikrabbitman1968, you should probably boot into windows (one last time?) and download it there? I am not sure things will work fine for you, and you will have to log out of linux anyways :)04:59
bob2ndisy: you don't, you'd upgrade to breezy if yo uwanted that04:59
ghost_ctr+alt bkspace04:59
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SymGeosisRoballegro, start up in rescue mode and reconfig x via dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:59
ghost_and edit x config04:59
rabbitman1968carthik..thanks, that's what i'll do, i really appreciate your help.......................grace and peace04:59
ndisyis it possible to without upgrading to breezy?05:00
carthikrabbitman1968, anytime05:00
SymGeosisor you could do as ghost_ says.05:00
bob2paladin2: talk to the backport monkeys05:00
bob2ndisy: not really05:00
khermansIf anyone is running Thunderbird on AMD64, see if this security flaw affects you -- appears to be a bug in line 159 of run-mozilla.sh -- get a seg fault when trying the IMPORT command05:00
ndisyok, thanx05:00
ghost_ur way is easier tho05:00
zefyrusi got the Fatal server error:05:00
zefyrusxf86OpenConsole: Server must be suid root05:00
zefyruswhat do i have to do to fix this05:00
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bob2zefyrus: and what did you modify by hand?05:00
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synaei would like to run a mysql server, and i believe it is installed correctly- what is the command to run it?05:01
ghost_so.. wats the ubuntu-desktop package05:01
carthiksynae, you mean to start it?05:01
zefyrusbob2, i did nothing05:01
bob2synae: mysql-server is the package, and if you have it installed, it's already running05:01
khermanssynae, /etvc/init.d/mysql start05:01
bob2paladin2: oh, wait, you're using broken inkscape packages05:01
carthiksynae sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart05:01
bob2paladin2: install the version from ubuntu05:01
paladin2Doh!05:01
zefyrusi'm using breezy05:01
carthiksynae that will restart it05:01
bimberighost_: a meta-package related to lots of stuff (that makes up a good desktop)05:02
paladin2I got the apt-line from inkscape's site.05:02
synaeit says /etc/init.d/mysql not found, i guess i didn't install it correctly. i'll go do that05:02
synaethanks everyone05:02
ghost_ok cause it pulls in for uninstall with cd/dvd creator05:02
paladin2So I should disable it?05:02
bob2paladin2: those packages are for sarge, not ubuntu hoary05:02
paladin2It complains about libc605:03
RoballegroRhanks guys!05:03
RoballegroThanks guys!05:03
bob2paladin2: as the url says05:03
bob2ghost_: then read the package description05:03
ghost_lol ye05:03
bob2ghost_: that doesn't appear to be in ubuntu, anyway05:03
DaTworight well i've got my hard drives now...  can someone tell me where to get the codec for mp3?05:03
ghost_im out of my mind today05:03
bob2DaTwo: read the FAQ05:03
brennerghost_: you can safely remove ubuntu-desktop...iirc05:03
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bob2DaTwo: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:03
paladin2Yeah.  I figured I'd give it a go - version .42 rather than .4005:03
ghost_thnx05:04
zefyrusbob2, any idea ?05:04
brennerghost_: you do have to reinstall t if you're gonna upgrade to breezy tho05:04
ghost_k05:04
carthikwhat is the command to find the version of ubuntu installed -- someone mentioned it once and I have forgotten it since?05:04
paladin2Thanx bob2.  I guess I'm stuck with .40 until the packages are updated.05:05
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bimberibob2: that (wiki url) has got to be a keyboard shortcut (or faq-o-matic) :)05:05
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notnilCcan anyone tell me why mozill05:05
paladin2BTW, do I have to do a full re-install for breezy, or can I just apt-get dist-upgrade?05:05
notnilCoops05:05
bob2bimberi: sadly, no, I'm too lazy05:05
naliothcarthik: uname -a05:05
bob2paladin2: of course not, wiki/BreezyUpgradeNotes05:05
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bob2zefyrus: make it setuid root...05:05
carthiknalioth, that does not tell me which version of ubuntu is installed (hoary/warty etc)05:06
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carthiknalioth, there was a command... i forgot it.. dang ..05:06
bimberibob2: :) - wish i could type that quickly05:06
millenniahello05:06
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millenniahello!nice to meet you05:06
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zefyrusbob2, you mean in xorg.com ?05:07
carthikmillennia, hows everything?05:07
paladin2Sorry - just a question :/ I don't spend all day loking through wikis... :)05:07
bimbericarthik: cat /etc/issue05:07
millenniaI am a chinese user05:07
millenniaand you?05:07
ThisGuyWhat are some good Window Borders and Applications themes that everyone likes?05:07
carthikbimberi - yay!!05:07
carthikmillennia, can we help you? I am extra-terrestrial05:08
millenniaare you working now?05:08
SymGeosisThisGuy, I love Red Hat's newest version of Bluecurve for a window border05:08
carthikmillennia, just kidding...05:08
millennia:)05:08
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SymGeosisBah.05:08
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DaTwobob2: thanks! :D05:09
carthikDaTwo, so all set then?05:09
millenniahow long have you used ubuntu?05:09
millenniaI am a green hand05:10
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millenniano body talk with me?I will quit05:11
millenniabye!05:11
hondjelol, that was dumb05:11
SymGeosis...05:11
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steve___good now he's gone05:12
steve___:)05:12
stoeptegeljust curious to know, is there a command to show the latest edited files?05:12
steve___stoeptegel by you?05:12
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paulproteusstoeptegel: Yes.05:12
paulproteusfind -mtime 005:12
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paladin2Anyone else have problems with winetools not installing explorer?05:13
paulproteus"find" has magical powers.05:13
paladin2it hangs every time at fixme: richedit etc...05:13
stoeptegelgroovie, hehe. Thank you!05:13
SymGeosisstoeptegel, I just use ls -tan05:13
ghost_k thnx all gtg05:13
SymGeosisstoeptegel, which kinda does what you're asking.05:13
zefyrusbob2, witch file do i must setuid ?05:14
stoeptegelSymGeosis: I'll experiment some around :-)05:15
zdennisanyone here ever rip 2 cds at the same time?05:15
zdennisis it wise to do?05:15
zdennisor does it just slwo everything way down05:16
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Cheetahfoothow can i use windowmaker with gnome? how do you reset the default gnome window manager?05:16
jo_ezdennis, it's just slower05:16
mik3hi what's a popular wysiwyg html editor for ubuntu, i installed it a long time ago and forgot the name05:16
bimberimik3: nvu?05:17
mik3that's it05:17
mik3thanks05:17
mik3=D05:17
notnilCis there anywhere i can set settings for a firewall in ubuntu?05:17
SymGeosisCheetahfoot, killall meta-city05:17
naliothmik3: quanta?05:17
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SymGeosisCheetahfoot, then start the window manager you want from xterm.05:17
naliothnotnilC: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=13005:17
SymGeosisCheetahfoot, then be sure to save your session when you quit gnome.05:17
Cheetahfootah ... okay. then, what, save session?05:17
CheetahfootSymGeosis: okay.05:17
zdennisjo_e overall slower? Would it be quicker to do 2 cds at once opposed to 1 cd?05:17
zdennisor should i just be patient05:18
CheetahfootSymGeosis: so then all i have to deal with is the panels ...05:18
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mik3what does this mean05:18
mik3Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting.05:18
SymGeosisCheetahfoot, theres a command for it, which I've seen listed on most sites but I don't remember it...05:18
SymGeosisCheetahfoot, what about the panels?05:18
zdennismik3, i think it means it can't find mozillas runtime directory =?05:18
zdennis=|05:18
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notnilCthanks nalioth but that's my problem .. firefox won't let me look at most of the internet05:18
bimberi... and that it exited :)05:18
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Cheetahfootwell, when i kill all metacity, then start windowmaker the gnome panels upt op and on the bottom are still present ..05:19
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jo_ezdennis, I suppose it would make a difference whether one was slave to another, or they were both slave , or both master05:19
bimberimik3: what were you running?05:19
SymGeosisCheetahfoot, then remove them by right clicking05:19
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jo_ezdennis, if you assume that it's just half as slow, then at least you don't waste time switching cds around as much05:19
xTinanotnilC: That should not be Ubuntu's fault. It does not restrict internet access by default.05:19
notnilCthanks xTina so it is most likely the firewall in my router then?05:20
SymGeosisCheetahfoot, but if you want to do all of that, why use GNOME?05:20
SymGeosisCheetahfoot, why not just use XFCE or Fluxbox?05:21
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xTinanotnilC: Could be. But I don't see why it should restrict outgoing http connections unless you turned on some child protection filter or something like that ...05:21
notnilCi haven't touched it since i ubuntu on .. i had the same problem with fedora .. but windows works perfectly05:21
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Jekameanis anyone that there keyboard?05:22
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xTinanotnilC: On the same machine? (windows,that is)05:22
notnilCyep05:22
xTinanotnilC: What error message do you get?05:22
notnilCconnection refused05:22
linlinHi, how can i use apt-get to install jre and jdk (jdk more important)05:22
Jekameanhow good is ubuntu as a server? and how do i start ssh on my server machine?05:22
Jekameani cant find a command anywhere05:22
xTinanotnilC: Interesting ... what sites work, and what sites don't?05:23
carthikJekamean, install openssh-server05:23
carthikJekamean, then sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start (though it is started after installation)05:23
notnilCumm .. i haven't found a site that completely works .. all sites either don't work .. or only work to an extent05:23
notnilCi can't get on hotmail05:23
notnilCcan't get on google05:23
notnilCcan't even download java05:24
xTinalinlin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java05:24
notnilCand can't get gaim to work at all05:24
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xTinanotnilC: So what _does_ work?05:25
Jekameanwhen you say install, i take it you dont mean $ install openssh-server05:25
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notnilCxchat .. and the australian jobsearch website05:25
carthikJekamean, $sudo apt-get install openssh-server05:26
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Jekameanthanks, carthik05:26
carthikJekamean, or $ gksudo synaptic &  --- and then browse after searching for ssh ?05:26
benplautanyone know how to change the Xscreensaver Lock screen dialog in breezy?05:26
carthiknotnilC, lol - jobsearch still works eh? What sort of network are you on?05:26
uglysmurfanyone here have their /home shared across machines?05:27
notnilCadsl05:27
carthiknotnilC, do the sites work on some other os on the same machine - if you have tried it?05:27
xTinanotnilC: google.com doesn't work right now?05:27
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ugodoes anyone have experience with openafs on hoary?05:28
JekameanI get sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path05:28
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notnilCxTina, nope .. google not working at all05:28
xTinaand hotmail neither?05:28
notnilCcarthik, yes .. everything works on the other machine runing winxp05:28
notnilCyep .. not working at all xTina05:29
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mkyb14anyone here have a intall problem with initrd tools05:29
xTinanotnilC: Try "telnet hotmail.com 80" in a Terminal, please.05:29
carthiknotnilC, strange... sorry i never have run into anything like this05:29
mkyb14it says to check the log but how do i open the log?  bootstrap.log05:29
mkyb14vim, pico, nano don't work05:29
xTinanotnilC: (without the ")05:29
carthikmkyb14, you can open it with a text editor05:29
carthikmkyb14, why doe they not work?05:30
mkyb14from the console? it didn't install completely05:30
xTinamkyb14: Check if your CD-ROM is error-free.05:30
mkyb14how05:30
carthikmkyb14, whats the error?05:30
xTinamkyb14: If you downloaded an ISO image, check the md5sum.05:30
mik3notnilC what kind of router?05:30
mkyb14i downloaded the 5.0405:30
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mkyb14dunno how to do that05:30
xTinamkyb14: md5sum <isoimage>05:30
PhoenixP3KI scewed up my dual-boot install :( can someone help me out?!05:31
notnilCmik3, iConnect Access 62105:31
mkyb14on linux or windows05:31
mkyb14heh i'm in the console for error crap during the install of it05:31
notnilCxTina, it says "connected to hotmail.com"05:31
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PhoenixP3KThe Windows part is kindof dead05:31
xTinanotnilC: Now type "GET /" please.05:31
vermyndaxhey again all05:31
mik3notnilC : is that a broadband router?05:31
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vermyndaxcan anyone recommend a good mail notification program that will sit in the systray or as a panel applet?05:31
notnilCmik3, yes05:31
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mik3notnilC is there a reset button on it?05:31
Jekameanget /05:32
PhoenixP3KMy guess is the location of Grub might be the bug05:32
carthikvermyndax, do you use evolution?05:32
notnilCxTina, "connection closed by foreign host"05:32
vermyndaxcarthik:05:32
notnilCmik3, that's been done twice .. makes no difference05:32
mkyb14?05:32
vermyndaxcarthik: yes, evolution05:32
mik3notnilC i had a similar problem and i reset it with it's reset it button, thinking it held pseudo-function on the operations of the router, and it fixed my problems05:32
xTinanotnilC: And some "Server: Microsoft ..... http://...." stuff?05:32
mik3or just go buy a linksys05:32
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carthikvermyndax, use ogra's http://www.grawert.net/software/evonotify/05:32
PhoenixP3KCan you have GRUB on a HDD and make it boot windows that is on an other drive?05:32
notnilCnope05:32
mik3hmm05:32
chiko_roottengo problemas para instalar ubuntu05:32
mik3you're resolving hosts fine etc?05:32
PhoenixP3KnotnilC, was this answer towards me?05:33
notnilCno PhoenixP3K sorry05:33
mkyb14what's the main diff between 5.04 and 5.10?05:33
Jekameancarthk, i get sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path05:33
chiko_rooti have problem`s install to ubuntu05:33
notnilCxTina, that's all it said05:33
naliothmkyb14: 6 months05:33
mkyb14intrid tools fails05:33
mkyb14on install05:33
carthikchiko_root, you will espanol speakers at #ubuntu-es05:33
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mkyb14and it says to check to log and i can't open the f'n log lol05:33
xTinachiko_root: What kind of problems? (btw if you're more comfortable in spanish, there's also #ubuntu-es)05:34
vermyndaxcarthik: thanks!05:34
Jeevanhow do you label mountpoints in ubuntu?05:34
nalioth!es05:34
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:34
carthikvermyndax, anytime05:34
mkyb14?05:34
vermyndaxcould you help me figure out openoffice's java weirdness too?05:34
chiko_rootok05:34
notnilCxTina, that time is said the microsoft stuff05:34
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Jeevanin the gnome open/save file dialog, I'm seeing all the mountpoints labeled as "20G Media"05:34
xTinanotnilC: Your internet connection is perfectly fine then.05:34
Jeevanor 8G media, etc05:34
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Jekameanhow can i do dual monitors?05:35
ParisiDoes anyone happens to have a Netgear WG311T wireless card?05:35
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mkyb14ok i have the bootstrap.log uopen ... how do i know what is the error for initrd tools??????????05:35
Kinhusomeone can help me?05:35
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naliothKinhu: you need to ask something first05:36
carthikKinhu, depends on your question05:36
xTinanotnilC: Does Konqueror work?05:36
xTinaKinhu: just ask :)05:36
notnilCwhat's that?05:36
xTinaKinhu: (if it's related to Ubuntu)05:36
notnilC(im very new to linux)05:36
KinhuWell, I instaled UBUNTU, how i config my screen res??05:36
xTinanotnilC: another web browser, oh, but if you have a regular Ubuntu install you probably don't have it installed :(05:36
Kinhuit's set 1280X1024 and i want 1024x76805:36
notnilCnope .. only got firefox05:36
Kinhusorry i'm a bit NOOB05:36
carthikKinhu, do you know the refresh rate of your monitor?05:37
xTinanotnilC: And you didn't change any settings?05:37
notnilCnope05:37
vermyndaxwow gnomebaker is the bomb05:37
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Kinhui want to configura a PPPoe05:37
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Kinhufor withc resolution?05:37
carthikKinhu, the Hz part of the monitor specs?05:37
Kinhucuz in 1280 something is wring05:37
Kinhuwtong*05:37
smurfixKinhu: System => Preferences => Screen Resolution05:38
Kinhuwrong*05:38
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Kinhuthanks05:38
Kinhuand for configuring a PPPoe conection on ubuntu?05:38
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xTinanotnilC: Ok, and you're sure your internet provider doesn't force you to use a proxy or something like that?05:39
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notnilCxTina, yes05:39
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Kinhuno05:39
Kinhui use dynamic IP05:39
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xTinanotnilC: Are you using hoary or breezy?05:39
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naliothevening thoreauputic05:39
thoreauputichi nalioth :)05:39
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ksmurfis there a way to add "open Terminal" back to the right click menu in Gnome 2.12?05:39
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notnilCxTina, hoary05:40
xTinaksmurf: apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal05:40
mkyb14how do i check the md5sum on windows to see if the image is complete05:40
Kinhudamn i'm using windows now05:40
ksmurfx-Tina thanks05:40
naliothmkyb14: search www.freewarehome.com for an md5 application05:40
Kinhucan u make a summary of what i have to do?05:40
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Kinhui will try by myself05:40
smurfixKinhu: "sudo pppoeconf" in a terminal should work05:40
Kinhuok05:41
Kinhuthank05:41
Kinhui 'll try05:41
mkyb14don't i have to compare the numbers to see if it's complete05:41
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xTinamkyb14: There's plenty of windows tools if you google, I don't know what's good.05:41
xTinamkyb14: Yes, you will find the list of md5sums for all the Ubuntu ISOs on the same server where you downloaded it, in the same directory.05:41
vermyndaxanyone here find gdesklets intrusive on cpu usage?05:42
mkyb14i got it from the http site on the main page05:42
mkyb14there are not md5sums05:42
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thoreauputicadded  !openterm factoid for Breezy right-click open terminal function05:43
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linlin!dpkg ant05:43
ubotulinlin: Wish i knew05:43
thoreauputic!openterm05:43
ubotuhmm... openterm is to add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package05:43
linlin!ant05:43
ubotulinlin: I don't know05:43
linlindamn you05:44
Jekameani want to use naim, is it apt-get naim ?05:44
xTinathoreauputic: damm, you were faster :P05:44
thoreauputicxTina: :)05:44
mkyb14ok ok ok i got the md5sum off the ftp site, and have the md5 sum from the cd .... to i have to compare all 40 lines of code to see if it matches????05:44
benplautanyone know how to change the Xscreensaver Lock screen dialog in breezy?05:44
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xTinabenplaut: In what regard? Getting rid of the "fast user switching"?05:45
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benplautxTina, no... i just think the Hoary one looked prettier05:45
xTinamkyb14: No, just the one for the ISO you downloaded.05:45
benplautbasically, do you know what program/patch they use to get the dialog theme?05:45
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mkyb14how do i check it??? i cd'd to the /cdrom dir and opened the md5sum.txt05:47
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xTinamkyb14: There should be a number on the same line as the file name of the iso you downloaded.05:47
xTinamkyb14: run the md5sum program you downloaded on the iso, and compare it to that number.05:48
mkyb14how do i run that program in console?05:48
mkyb14i'm new to this05:48
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xTinamkyb14: It's a windows program, so I'm clueless. Probably cd to the directory where you put it, and then just say whateveritscalled.exe05:48
xTinawhateveryour.iso05:49
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mkyb14oh so there is no way to do this in the console05:49
mkyb14during the failed install05:49
xTinamkyb14: no05:49
xTinamkyb14: unless the iso happens to be on a partition on the same system that you can access from the install05:49
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vermyndaxwould anyone know why openoffice doesn't seem to find any of the Java RE's that are installed on this system?  They're all blank in the Java options screen05:50
mkyb14it's just a single hd with one partition from the install menu and the cdrom drive05:50
xTinavermyndax: You might want to set your JAVA_HOME/JAVA_PATH environments?05:50
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xTinamkyb14: Then the image probably isn't on there?05:50
vermyndaxxTina: hmmm... can you tell me how I'd go about doing that properly?05:50
mkyb14ok so i have ot put the cd in my windows machine one sec05:50
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xTinaYou first need to figure out where your JRE is on your drive.05:51
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a-l-p-h-aAnyone have issues with using azureus?  Do I need to play with iptables to get it to work?05:51
ripgut:(05:51
ripguti cant get gnomad2 to work with my zen micro05:51
naliotha-l-p-h-a: nope. just your router (if you have one)05:51
ripgutit only recognizes damn jukeboxes05:51
vermyndaxxTina: I know where I put it, so that helps ;)05:52
linlinhow do i add multiverse repos05:52
a-l-p-h-analioth, I've turned on uPNP, and also tried to forward the port... still no go. :(05:52
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Krazhierhi guys quick question for ya guys I'm very new to ubuntu and linux  my question is, what do I have to put in the wep field if my router has security off and obviously no WEP key i'm running Dlink DWL G650 card and DI 624 router05:52
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mik3Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting.05:52
naliotha-l-p-h-a: your nickname is annoying, to quote another user in here, www.portforward.com05:52
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xTinavermyndax:  Ok, so you simply do an export JAVA_HOME=/wherever/your/jdk.version/bin05:52
xTinavermyndax: and the same for JAVA_PATH05:52
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mik3Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting. <---this happens when i try to run NVU, what's the problem?05:53
xTinavermyndax: and then start openoffice from that same Terminal05:53
thoreauputiclinlin: easiest way is to add the word  multiverse on each universe line in your /etc/apt/sources.list05:53
vermyndaxxTina: and that will stick across reboots?05:53
xTinavermyndax: If it works, we'll make it permanent :)05:53
killapopKrazhier: nothing - leave it blank05:53
tjswhy would the kernel in breezy not be compiled with the version of gcc in breezy?05:53
thoreauputiclinlin: with a space before it of course05:53
Krazhiermust be something with the card it will stay as disconnected even though it finds a perfect signal allright thanks I'll keep searching forums for this specific card05:54
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vermyndaxxTina: okie, I'm on the java options screen... it's scanning busily...05:54
a-l-p-h-analioth, use nick complete... "a-"<tab>.  As for the port forwarding... does nothing.05:54
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rabbittvhi all05:55
rabbittvim new to linux =)05:55
ripgutdoes anyone know if gnomad2 support zen micros?05:55
vermyndaxxTina: nothing :(05:55
naliotha<tab>-l-p-h-a its the unnatural "-" that is annoying (i do use tab)05:55
xTinavermyndax: Hm. Then I don't know either ... maybe OO has a cmd line switch or a config file where you can set it.05:56
vermyndaxxTina: yeah that's what I was thinking... if I leave "use Java runtime environment" checked, it takes about 1 minute to load ooffice205:56
vermyndaxxTina: if I uncheck it, it loads in less than a second05:56
vermyndaxxTina: so I thought maybe I'd point it to Sun Java to see if that loads any faster (it helped Moneydance work better)05:56
xTinavermyndax: yuk, that was the cause of yesterday's troubles?05:56
vermyndaxxTina: yep, sure was05:57
bendegocan anyone help me get a logitech quickcam  working in breezy?05:57
mik3Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting. <---this happens when i try to run NVU, what's the problem?05:57
vermyndaxxTina: something about the java environment ooffice2 is trying to use isn't working too well05:57
bendegoThe camera shows up when I do "lsusb"05:57
bz0byo guys05:57
alexandrosgood night, can someone help me? I am unable to get firefox to start. I asks for for a profile but the is that is the last I see of it. I tried to reinstall it but it did not work.05:57
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bendegoand the /dev/video devices are created when I modprobe the 'cpio" module05:57
vermyndaxxTina: the weird thing is - I've heard people say that Base requires Java to work, but it seems to work fine for me without that box checked05:57
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bendegobut xawtv and gqcam just report "/dev/video: No such device05:58
bendego" when I try to run them05:58
erickdoes anyone know when i increase the resolution i have problems?05:58
tjsAnyone running vmware with breezy?05:58
mkyb14ok i did the md5sum in windows of the .iso img that i have but i have no md5sum on anysite to compare it to05:59
bendegoalexandros: you might want to try deleting your firefox profile completely.  (rm -r ~/.mozilla)05:59
tjsI cant install it (vmware) because it says that the kernel was not compiled with the version of gcc that is in breezy (which seems odd)05:59
bendegooften that fixes these quirky firefox problems05:59
xTinamkyb14: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/MD5SUMS05:59
xTinamkyb14: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/MD5SUMS06:00
alexandrosok, thank you I will try that06:00
xTinamkyb14:  depending on your release06:00
mkyb14xtina you are god06:00
xTinavermyndax: Do you have "java" or a JRE/JDK from Sun?06:00
vermyndaxxTina: yes, I put it in /opt06:00
mkyb14ok xtina it's exactly the same06:01
vermyndaxxTina: /opt/jre1.5.0_0406:01
mkyb14so why would it fail on install06:01
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mkyb14of intrd tools06:01
erickHow i increase my refresh rate  on the resolution 1152x768???NOw is 55Hz06:01
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xTinamkyb14: 5.04 or 5.10?06:01
_olafwhen i install the ubuntu base, how would i go about installing all the additional packages?06:01
_olafwhat's the best way of doing that06:01
mkyb145.1006:01
bz0bwhen is 5.10 final release do?06:01
alexandrosthat did not work06:01
vermyndaxo0h wow I just discovered I'm running at 60hz refresh rate06:01
vermyndaxthat explains a LOT06:01
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mik3Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting. <---this happens when i try to run NVU, what's the problem?06:02
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thoreauputicbz0b: october 1306:02
ripgutthats my b-day06:02
bendegoalexandros: what happens when you run mozilla from the command line?  Do you get an error message?06:02
xTinamkyb14: Might just be broken on your machine for some reason, after all it's still beta. What architecture?06:02
bz0bthoreauputic, thanks06:02
_olafafter i install the unbuntu base, what's the best way to install all the extra packages (including x, etc.)?06:02
bimberimik3: how did you install nvu?06:02
mkyb14amd 200+ processor so i'm guessing i386 .... that's the img i have06:02
bz0bthoreauputic, will it be the perfect OS, hehe :P06:03
thoreauputic_olaf: depends what you want06:03
mkyb142000+ *06:03
_olafi want all of the extra packages06:03
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_olafjust as they would be if i'd installed the whole thing in the first place06:03
mkyb14i'm downloadig 5.04 to try that06:03
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mkyb14maybe it's just therelase?06:03
thoreauputic_olaf: a start would be x-window-system-core xterm <window mangaer you want>06:03
erickdoes anyone know ow i install Nvidia drives here?06:03
_olafi mean06:03
_olafdo i just mount the cd06:03
_olafand dpkg everything?06:03
_olafor what?06:04
vermyndaxxTina: sorry, I have to run help my wife for a few minutes - back in a bit06:04
thoreauputic_olaf: ah - install ubuntu-desktop06:04
xTinamkyb14: Good idea. If it turns out to be a problem with 5.10, maybe you can track it down.06:04
_olafi'm not a debian guy06:04
_olafthat's all?06:04
xTinaI gotta go get some sleep now.06:04
mkyb14k thanks for the help06:04
thoreauputic_olaf: you use apt06:04
mkyb14lates06:04
bendegoalexandros: still there?06:04
_olaf"install ubuntu-desktop" will do it all?06:04
alexandrosno before delete the profile like you said it was saying *** loading the extensions datasource. not their is no message the profile selector comes up and if you try to login using default it says that it is busy.06:04
ripguthow do i get gnomad2 to work with a creative zen micro guys06:04
thoreauputic_olaf: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that pulls the other deps in06:04
_olafwhen i'm in like... logged into the base?06:04
ripgutplease?06:04
_olafoh, thanks06:05
bendegohmmm06:05
thoreauputic_olaf:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop06:05
alexandrosbendego: yes I am here just took sometime to respond06:05
bendegook it sounds like firefox is already running somewhere06:05
_olafk, gotta write all this stuff down06:05
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bendegoif you have checked around and can't find any fireffox windows running already...06:06
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bendegothen type this: ps aux | grep firefox06:06
alexandrosaccording to the system monitor there is no instance of fireofx running06:06
thoreauputic_olaf: why did you ened up with the base only? Did you do a server install ?06:06
bendegook06:06
thoreauputics/ened/end06:07
erickthere is a way i can use my NTFS partitions here?06:07
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bendegohmm strange06:07
_olafthoreauputic: i have a really bad problem, the ubuntu install never works06:07
ripgutanyone?06:07
alexandrosthis is the response1000     10980  0.0  0.1   2948   576 pts/0    S+   00:07   0:00 grep firefox06:07
thoreauputicerick: ntfs is read-only06:07
_olafit gets the base install and barely into the other packages06:07
_olafgoes black and doesn't work06:08
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thoreauputic!doesn't work06:08
ubotuI heard doesn't work is something you should never say.  Be more specific.06:08
_olafthen i try to install all the extra packages with a half-ass install, and everything goes haywire06:08
bendegook so firefox is not running..06:08
winston_helloooo world!06:08
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bendegobut it seems like there is some kind of lock file left around somewhere06:08
thoreauputic!tell erick about mountwindows06:08
bendegothat makes firefox think it's still running06:09
_olafit goes black, i reboot, it tries installing the rest, then goes into apt, i try to install the packages -- it works, but then nothing works -- X won't load it has all these authority warnings and crap06:09
_olafamong other things not working06:09
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bendegodid the ~/.mozilla get re-created when you tried running firefox?06:09
_olafi'm hoping it will work if i install the base, then install the extra crap manually06:09
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thoreauputic_olaf: ifit's an X problem, the command to reconfigure X is  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:10
DjKriticalanyone know of an easy to use wav to mp3 encoder?06:11
_olafis that like... the one that auto-detects my monitor/frequency and stuff? and then gives me the resolutions list?06:11
mik3any other wysiwyg html editors? my nvu is broke06:11
alexandrosit was recreated06:11
thoreauputic_olaf: more or less, yes06:11
bendegoOK delete it again completely06:11
thoreauputic_olaf: amongst other things06:11
bendegoand check manually to make sure it is really gone06:12
bendegothen try starting firefox again06:12
bimberiDjKritical: audacity (an audio editor) can do it06:12
bendegoif you get the same "profile in use" message06:12
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bimberimik3: how did you install nvu?06:12
bendegochoose the option to create a new profile06:12
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i-isymhi guys can i ask someone a question i just started running linux whatnot06:12
_olafthoreauputic, you've been very helpful -- compared to other people i've encountered here, thank you very much06:12
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thoreauputic_olaf: you're welcome06:13
i-isymi installed quakeworld but i cant get it to run06:13
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dhartHaving problems getting Samba with Synaptic think I messed up my repositories file can some one send me original sources.list?06:13
thoreauputic_olaf: I guess you hit a bad moment in the channel - we usually try to be helpful06:13
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i-isymi just wanna know how to execute an executable :D06:13
mik3bimberi `: apt-get install nvu, the same way i did it before06:14
mik3bimberi it used to wrok06:14
mik3i dunno what happened06:14
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thoreauputici-isym: you just type the name, usually06:14
DjKriticalthanks bimberi !06:14
thoreauputici-isym: what are you trying to do?06:14
i-isymwell its Quakeworld06:14
mik3any other wysiwyg html editors? my nvu is broke06:15
i-isymthe old QUake game what not i extracted all the files and i wanna run the game06:15
i-isymbut it wont run it what so ever06:15
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thoreauputici-isym: ah well, I don't know that program and I guess you have instructions for it ?06:15
i-isym.glx files .x11 files .svga files06:15
i-isymwell thing is i type it in but it wont execute it lol06:15
i-isymhow can i log into as ROOT06:16
i-isym?06:16
alexandrosnope, I am getting  "*** loading the extensions datasource" continually06:16
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thoreauputici-isym: if you are in its directory try typing ./nameofexecutable06:16
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thoreauputici-isym: trust me, you don't want to run it as root06:17
bimberimik3: try a fresh install -> sudo apt-get install --purge --reinstall nvu06:17
stickybootok, i have a noob question i need some help with06:17
bimberiDjKritical: yw :)06:17
stickybootwhen i run the command " sh /home/bcomnes/Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run "  it tells me that i need to run it in root06:18
i-isymwell i know what im runing06:18
benplautanyone know how to change the Xscreensaver Lock screen dialog in breezy?06:18
stickybootanyone think they can help me out?06:18
alexandrosbendego: are you still there?06:18
bendegohi alexandros06:18
thoreauputici-isym: erm - you don't even know how to run it though :P06:18
bendegojust googling for that error message06:18
bendegoI'm stumped, frankly06:18
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bendegotry re-installing the package06:19
bendegosudo apt-get --reinstall install ispell06:19
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bendegooops.. change "ispell" to "firefox"06:19
bimberistickyboot: put a sudo at the start of the command06:19
thoreauputicstickyboot: sudo sh blah blah06:19
ThisGuyHey everyone.06:19
i-isymyou said06:19
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i-isymjust type it in06:19
stickybootjust type sudo?06:19
stickyboot'06:19
nfinitep1astikstickyboot: along with the rest of the line06:19
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thoreauputici-isym: usually06:19
stickybootok06:19
i-isymthats what i've done even through the GUI mode ive tried itll say OPENING BLAH BLAH but never actually opens06:19
bimberistickyboot: no, "sudo sh /....."06:19
thoreauputici-isym: depends if its in your $PATH06:20
thoreauputici-isym: if it isn't, you cd to the dir and run ./nameofexecutable06:20
stickybootcool06:20
stickybootso now its asking for my password06:20
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stickybootbut i cant type anything06:20
bimberistickyboot: yep06:20
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i-isymive tried that too06:21
ThisGuyWhat media player does everyone use to watch video with?  Right now I'm using Totem, but I was wondering what everyone else likes...06:21
i-isymheh06:21
stickybootlike nothing types out06:21
bimberistickyboot: it doesn't echo06:21
stickybootoh06:21
uglysmurfThisGuy, i use totem, works fine for me06:21
thoreauputici-isym: if you run it from a terminal you might get some useful error messages06:21
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stickybootthere we go!06:21
bimberistickyboot: ... in case someone's looking over your shoulder :)06:21
stickybootthank you!06:21
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stickybootso sudo makes thing run as root06:21
i-isymim gonna try it again06:21
stickyboot?06:21
i-isymbut it dont work06:21
i-isymdamn yo my head hurts06:21
russ[] werd06:22
russ[] eat a banana06:22
russ[] dawg06:22
mik3any other wysiwyg html editors? my nvu is broke06:22
bendegoalexandros: one person found that this error was caused...06:22
stickybootbrb06:22
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bimberistickyboot: yes06:22
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bendegoby the libflash-mozplugin package06:22
kinhuHow can i play a mp3 file here?06:22
thoreauputici-isym: given that this isn't an ubuntu program, you might get better help in a channel that deals with quake problems06:22
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bendegodo you have that installed?06:22
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NoUse!tell kinhu about mp306:22
thoreauputic!tell kinhu about mp306:22
bimberimik3: did you try the reinstall?06:23
kinhuwhat i have to install to play an mo3 file here?06:23
i-isym./glqwcl: error while loading shared libraries: libMesaGL.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory06:23
thoreauputickinhu: ubotu just msg ed you an answer06:23
ThisGuykinhu:  You should search for EasyUbuntu on the Ubuntu Forums...It will automatically install what you need.06:23
russ[] do you not have your video drivers installed?06:23
ThisGuyWorks great!06:23
WMCoolmoni've been having problems recently with my ext3 filesystem mounting itself as read-only, i'm searching forums + google now but any assistance would be appreciated06:23
i-isymyeah i do06:23
i-isymok man sorry bout it06:24
i-isymthanks for the help06:24
GuramHi guys, I am trying to get 3d acceleration to work under Ubuntu with an ATI Radeon 9800xt.  I used synaptic to install fglrx and then rebooted.  After that i ran the command fglrxinfo to see if it would recognize my ATI card however i get this message instead-  Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".06:24
Guramdisplay: :0.0  screen: 006:24
GuramOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org06:24
GuramOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect06:24
GuramOpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)06:24
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naliothGuram: paste in #flood or a pastebin, please06:25
Guramsorry06:25
Guramcan someone help me out though.06:25
thoreauputicGuram: please read the channel topic ( /topic )06:25
mik3any other wysiwyg html editors? my nvu is broke06:25
GuramI have documentation to instal ati binary drivers... this is what im having problems with06:26
thoreauputicGuram: did you read the binary drivers howto ?06:26
thoreauputic!ati06:26
ubotusomebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx06:26
Guramyes i have the window open right now... i folloed it step by step06:26
thoreauputick06:26
bendegohey alexandros I've got to go now06:27
GuramIm using 5.10, but using the 5.04 instruction06:27
bendegobut I but the flashplugin thing will be the problem06:27
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bendegofrom a terminal you can remove that package...06:27
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alexandrosstill getting the error06:29
bendegoby typing: sudo apt-get remove libflash-mozplugin06:29
Carpe_Libertatem!themes06:29
ubotuI heard themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com06:29
bendegodo you have the flash plugin installed?06:29
alexandrosno06:29
alexandrosthis is a fresh install06:29
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bendegooh06:30
bendegodarn06:30
z|banditowhat program are jpg files associated with by default?  and do they preview by default in nautilus?06:30
alexandrosit was working at first but after rebooting it stopped working06:30
bendegoso weird06:30
naliothz|bandito: it depends on what you have installed06:30
bendegocan you run the mozilla browser?06:30
alexandrosbendego: thank you for your help06:31
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alexandrosthat is not installed06:31
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crimsunz|bandito: normally they're associated with "Eye of GNOME", or Applications> Graphics> Image Viewer06:31
crimsunz|bandito: and yes, Nautilus previews them06:31
alexandrosI installed Epiphany and that is working06:31
bendegook06:31
crimsun(I should note this is under Breezy)06:31
alexandrosbut it is not as good as firefox06:32
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bendegoyeah i agree06:32
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vermyndaxwhew back06:32
stickybootok im back withh some more of my questions06:32
alexandroswhat I do a full uninstall for Synaptic?06:32
alexandrosthen reinstall06:33
stickyboothow do i stop x server?06:33
bendegoyeah that sound like a good idea06:33
eegorHey quick question.. i am pretty new to ubuntu and linux for that matter.  I was wondering if anyone could quickly tell me how to edit a file in text editor that is "owned" by the root?06:33
alexandrosdo you think thast will work?06:33
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crimsunstickyboot: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop06:33
bendegomake sure you upgrade all packages you possibly can too, with the latest versions06:33
alexandrosok, here goes nothing06:33
stickybootk k06:33
stickybootthanks06:33
Quinthiusstickyboot: log out then hit ctrl-alt-f1 to go to console, login there and run /etc/init.d/gdm stop06:33
bendegoI think firefox was upgraded twice today already06:33
alexandrosready done taht06:33
alexandrosthat06:33
geyzereegor: sudo nano -w file06:33
bendegook06:34
bendegowell I gotta go06:34
bendegogood luck alexandros06:34
stickybootill try crimsun's way first06:34
alexandrosthanks06:34
crimsunstickyboot: (they do the same thing)06:34
alexandrosbye06:34
alexandrosthank you for all your help06:34
Quinthiusstickyboot: i say logout and do it from console, or you're going to kill your current X session without giving apps a chance to close out gracefully06:34
stickybootoh ok06:35
stickybootbut the problem is i dont know how to login through the console06:35
stickyboot:(06:35
stickybootim that new06:35
Quinthiusi just said how :P06:35
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stickybootoh06:35
stickybootok06:35
stickybooti see06:36
Quinthiuslog out (you dont have to, but to make sure everything is all closed up), then ctrl-alt-f1 and login at the prompt06:36
a-l-p-h-aAnyone got azureus running?  I'm having issues with it connecting to anyone else, to start data transfers.  The port is forwarded.06:36
benplautanyone know how to change the Xscreensaver Lock screen dialog in breezy?06:36
thoreauputicstickyboot: name <enter> pass <enter>06:36
thoreauputic:)06:36
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stickybootok06:36
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michaelhi channel06:37
thoreauputichi michael06:37
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michaelupgraded today06:37
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x_orI cannot seem to get DNS to work properly.  I think it might be an outbound firewall.  I can ping the nameserver, but cannot get a  "dig" query to return properly.  Can anyone help me troubleshoot?  Can I use tcpdump to do this?06:38
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michaelall went well, but can't seem to do any admin stuff as user, like gdmsetup- it starts to launch but then goes away06:38
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candlelighthelo, I have something weird here, under console, if I enable caps lock, the key 'e' output is 'e', not 'E', any idea?06:39
Stalwartcandlelight, in some keymaps capslock switches input languages06:39
Stalwartfor example - in russian06:39
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jediwhat's the best way to prevent the pcspkr module loading on boot in breezy?06:40
candlelighthmm... I don't remember I chosen a diff keymap from std us...06:40
candlelightall keys are fine, except caps lock for 'e'06:40
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crimsunjedi: append it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist06:41
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jedithanks crimsun06:41
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Xenguy!sudo06:42
ubotusudo is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo06:42
Quinthiuscrimsun: does that apply to all modules btw?06:42
candlelightunder keyb layout, mine is US English, but caps lock output for 'e' is 'e', not 'E', only under console, not gnome terminal, any idea?06:42
crimsunQuinthius: yes06:42
Quinthiuscrimsun: cool, good to know :D06:42
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michaelsudo doesn't work06:42
Quinthiusmichael: there was a post on the forums about someone having the same prob06:43
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michaeljust returns a prompt- i have to su06:43
michaelyeah- i saw that post- i'll go back and read up06:43
Quinthiusmichael: are you using a /home from a previous distro or ubuntu version? or having network probs at all?06:43
a-l-p-h-awhat are the repositories I should be adding to my breezy installation?06:43
michaelno network probs- no, i was forced to clean install and am mourning the strongest linux sys i've ever had06:44
Quinthiusa-l-p-h-a: this is mine: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/212206:44
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thoreauputica-l-p-h-a: universe, and multiverse if you want "non-free" stuff06:44
a-l-p-h-aQuinthius, thoreauputic  thanks.06:45
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michaelso now everything is brand new again06:45
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Quinthiusmichael: it may be some funky bug in the installer06:46
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Sonny_Wertzikim compiling Mplayer with --enable gui and i have a problem...can someone help?06:47
Quinthiusmichael: that guy on the forums said he reinstalled fresh and everything worked fine06:47
djrelaywhat prob Sonny?06:47
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robotgeekdoes anyone know how to disable trackpad while typing?06:47
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thoreauputicSonny_Wertzik: you are aware that you can install mplayer from the multiverse reposiory, right ?06:48
Sonny_Wertzikit will not install gui it says it need GTK devel packages but does not say which ones?06:48
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Sonny_Wertzikyes i know about repository but this is new ver06:48
djrelayAnyone know why Synaptic Package Manager prompts for root passwd in Breezy Badger?06:49
storm99hi. can i install kubuntu over ubuntu?06:49
naliothSonny_Wertzik: then you need to scour the web for your 'new version supporting' gtk libs06:49
djrelayNothing works06:49
Quinthiusdjrelay: it doesnt, it asks for your password06:49
naliothstorm99: yes you can, install "kubuntu-desktop"06:49
thoreauputicstorm99:  sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop06:49
djrelaytried that too, Quinthius. No dice06:49
naliothstorm99: and it wont be 'over' ubuntu, it'll be another choice06:49
djrelayit asked for root06:49
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Sonny_Wertzikyou mean i hav to look for anything about what GTK packs to get?06:50
djrelaydang it... must've fat fingered...repeatedly06:50
Quinthiusdjrelay: have you fiddled around with sudoers or added a password for root?06:50
djrelaythanks Quin06:50
Quinthiushehe06:50
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thoreauputicSonny_Wertzik: sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer-586 or something like that might help you06:50
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andermicI'm trying to compile my own software, but whenever I do "sh configure" I get an error about "cannot run C compile programs"06:52
Sonny_Wertziki aint no sherlock holmes hehehehehehe06:52
thoreauputicandermic: install build-essential06:52
andermicyes, i have that06:52
andermici just reinstalled it06:52
Sonny_Wertzikthey can at least tell ya06:52
andermicand then i reinstalled it again06:52
wickedpuppyanyone knows how to unpack initrd with cpio ??06:52
thoreauputicandermic: usually you would run ./configure, not sh configure06:52
Sonny_Wertzikgeesh06:52
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andermicthoreauputic: you just made me realize the answer to my own question06:53
andermicthe drive is mounted with the noexec flag i think06:53
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wickedpuppythoreauputic,  you know |?06:54
thoreauputicSonny_Wertzik: apt-get build-dep <package> will install a lot of the dev packages you need06:54
naxobytespanish??????06:54
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Quinthius!es06:54
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:54
nalioth!es06:54
thoreauputicwickedpuppy: ?06:54
naxobyteok06:54
wickedpuppyunpacking initrd with cpio06:54
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thoreauputicwickedpuppy: you mean the "pipe" symbol ?06:54
Sonny_Wertziki used auto apt06:54
naliothwe are a bunch of pavlovian trained users, aren't we?06:55
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wickedpuppypip ??06:55
wickedpuppypipe ?06:55
wickedpuppyno cpio ...06:55
oddball_okay i have an odd problem... my sound card is being picked up and all, but i get no sound06:55
oddball_it a soundblaster audigy06:55
Quinthiuswickedpuppy: | = pipe06:55
wickedpuppyoh boy06:55
wickedpuppydoes anyone knows whats cpio and initrd ??06:56
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michaeloddball- have you done the "alsamixer" thing yet?06:56
oddball_anyone have a working sound blaster audigy 2 zs?06:56
dazvidme ^06:56
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oddball_michael: yes06:56
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oddball_dazvid: did it just work for you?06:56
dazvidoddball_: did you unmute the "Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack" ?06:57
dazvidno it didnt06:57
michaelit should be muted, not unmuted06:57
dazvidoh, well whatever the opposite of default -_-06:57
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michaeli did like 5 things in a row, so i'm not sure what worked on my audigy06:58
michaelbut it works now06:58
dazvidThe box above the analog/digital output should be green :)06:58
dazvidwhether thats muted or unmuted, i dont know06:58
oddball_i dont see that at all06:58
dazvidYou are in alsamixer ?06:59
oddball_yes06:59
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dazvidits 33 across for me06:59
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oddball_ah found it06:59
oddball_it off06:59
dazvidyup06:59
dazvidjust press m07:00
storm99hi. again07:00
kinhuhow i execut akron?07:00
dazvidAnd it should turn it on, and try sound07:00
storm99i have an live cd and i want to boot in 1280*1024 desktop. what can i do07:00
oddball_Victory!07:00
oddball_thanks dazvid07:00
michaelgood for you oddball- anyone else having sudo problems?07:01
oddball_okay now does anyone know the wiki page for playing dvds?07:02
thoreauputic!dvd07:02
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras07:02
thoreauputichmm07:02
dazvid!hoary-extras07:02
ubotuhoary-extras is, like, see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted07:02
oddball_is hoary-extras better than getting it from nerim?07:02
thoreauputicoddball_: don't use nerim07:03
oddball_so that a yes then07:03
thoreauputicoddball_: it's Debian stuff by Marillat07:03
oddball_and ima kill my dear friend.  this is actually h is desktop.  and he set the fucking keymap to british07:03
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stickybootok im back07:06
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stickybooti still havent gotten the x server to stop :(07:06
Quinthiusstickyboot: what are you typing?07:06
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oddball_stickyboot: sudo killall gdm  should do it07:07
stickybootafter logingn in usignthe console, i ran the command /ect/init.d/gdm stop07:07
Quinthiusstickyboot: use sudo..07:07
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Quinthiusstickyboot: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop07:07
stickybooti did use sudo07:07
doonzhey guys i kno there is a command to see that all devices are using dma any chance someone can refresh my memory07:07
Quinthiusstickyboot: did you reboot or something?07:07
stickybooti get a directory error saying it dost exist07:07
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thoreauputicdooglus: hdparm07:08
oddball_doonz: hdparm07:08
thoreauputicsorry dooglus :)07:08
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stickybootill try killall gdm07:08
roshis it possible to use a partition as a home directory for two different distros running on the same machine?07:08
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stickybootbrb07:09
bimberistickyboot: did you type "ect" or "etc" (should be the latter)07:09
russ[] rosh, yah07:09
stickybootoh07:09
roshruss[] , the fstab line I used had the following parameters:  defaults 1 107:09
roshruss[] , is this correct?07:09
thoreauputicrosh: yes, but if they use different user id numbers things can get tricky07:09
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stickybootbimberi: i used the first woops07:09
roshthoreauputic, ah, that is likely what is happening, can I manually set the user id number?07:09
Quinthiusbimberi: damn, good thinking..07:09
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stickyboothaha woops07:10
stickybootok brb07:10
leilahola, alguien que hable espaol???07:10
doonzhdparm just gives me a list of things but nothign that says howto list my devices07:10
Quinthiusdoonz: hdparm /dev/hda07:10
Quinthiusdoonz: or /dev/hdb or whatever your drives are07:10
bimberi!es07:10
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:10
delaneyif i have my xorg.conf set to the correct resolutions.. and currently in gnome have sound working SUPER with everything.. will all those settings carry over to another windowmanager like XFCE if i install it as an alternative to Gnome?07:10
thoreauputicrosh: you can, yes - preferably on the non-debian style distro though ( like changing 501 to 1001 )07:10
doonzoh ok07:11
thoreauputicrosh: I'm not sure of the details though07:11
roshthoreauputic, the uid is the field we are referring to, correct?07:11
thoreauputicrosh: yes07:11
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kinhuther is a way i can see my ntfs partitions?07:12
roshthoreauputic, what is the problem with changing the uid in ubuntu07:12
thoreauputicrosh: the other issues is some distros put all users in the "users" group by default07:12
Quinthiusis there any awy with apt to get a list of packages that aren't being depended upon by any other package? (to clear out unneeded libs and such)07:12
k-0tikanyone here have wine on ubuntu07:12
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k-0tik?07:13
thoreauputicrosh: not a problem - I guess either way could work if there are no conflicts07:13
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roshthoreauputic, can you give an example of a conflict?07:13
jer_can anyone tell me how many repo's ubuntu has?07:13
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thoreauputicrosh: not off th etop of my head - but say you have a user foo with uid 503 and that uid is used by another distro for some purpose...07:14
bimberiQuinthius: have a look at deborphan07:14
thoreauputicrosh: just trying to cover possible issues07:14
nalioth!tell jer_ about sources07:15
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Quinthiusbimberi: thanks :D07:15
roshthoreauputic, thank you, I appreciate your help, but I believe my setup is simple enough:  I only have two distros installed, and I am the only one that uses both07:15
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delaneyanyone care to give a yes or no?  if evrythings working fine soundwise.. will switching from gnome to xfce cause any problems with sound or will sound settings carry over ?07:16
roshthoreauputic, I just started using ubuntu, trying it out and seeing if i like it, and want to be able to share my home folder from the other distro installed07:16
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thoreauputicrosh: you might need to add your ubuntu user to the users group, IIRC07:16
thoreauputicrosh: depending on the conventions of your other distro07:16
chavorosh, make sure you are in the same group in both distros and same uid07:16
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kemikor chmod the folder07:17
roshdoes ubuntu use the "users" group?07:18
chavorosh yes07:18
thoreauputicrosh: also be aware of the user needing to be in the admin group for sudo privileges in ubuntu07:18
bdt1805I have a question... what kind of certification would i get if i were to get into programming?07:19
bdt1805Im brand new to it right now but i learn quick07:19
naliothbdt1805: the padded cell kind?07:19
thoreauputicrosh: in ubuntu all files made by a user are user:user  not user:users ( eg peter:peter not peter:users )07:20
bdt1805haha thats a good one07:20
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paulproteusbdt1805: Most people care for experience, not certifications.07:21
paulproteusThis, of course, can be a problem.07:21
bdt1805Im just want to get some study guides or something, so i can learn how to program on my own time07:21
dazvidbdt1805: what programming language did you want to learn?07:22
paulproteusbdt1805: Have you read through "How to Think like a Computer Scientist in Python"?07:22
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bdt1805Im wondering if yall have some book reccomendations for java or even C++07:23
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paulproteusFor Java, I'd first recommend "How to Think like a Computer Scientist in Java".07:23
thoreauputicback in a bit....07:23
paulproteusC++, probably the same book (I think there's a C++ version).07:23
paulproteusIt's available online for no money.07:23
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bdt1805pdf format?07:24
crimsunBruce Eckel has incredible guides07:24
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paulproteusbdt1805: Probably.  Google for it.  I know it's in HTML, at least.07:24
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paulproteusbdt1805: That'll get you started.  Beyond the basics, though, I can't recommend anything.07:24
crimsun(granted, it's more important to realize there's no language that does everything well)07:24
paulproteusFor now, I'm going to sleep.07:24
paulproteusBye, y'all.07:24
AnswerHello World07:24
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bdt1805thanks a lot Ill also do some more research myself07:25
jediborgerhello I just installed ubuntu version 5.10 and can't get my microsft trackball to work, does anyone have any suggestions?07:25
paulproteusjediborger: It's worth mentioning that 5.10 isn't released yet.07:25
paulproteus'Cause it's not October 2005 yet.07:25
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paulproteusBut I'm going to sleep, now.07:25
naliothjediborger: wait until the official release date07:25
Answerjediborger: a logitech or compatible mouse is relatively low cost :)07:25
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naliothjediborger: breezy will be broken until oct 1307:25
jediborgeryeah but I already have a microsoft mouse07:26
jediborgerok will it work on the previous version?07:26
Quinthiusis it safe to uninstall pretty much any orphaned package as long as i know no manually installed programs needs it?07:26
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naliothjediborger: yes it will, but that involves a complete reinstall (not the *nix way)07:26
naliothQuinthius: yes07:26
jediborgerok np for me thanks07:26
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stickybootok back07:26
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naliothQuinthius: and if one of your local proggys DOES complain, well07:27
stickybootso i had some sucess'07:27
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bdt1805Ive had trouble with my printer with open office.org, but it works on the text editors, etc. could it be a bug in the 5.10 preview release?07:27
stickybootthe killall command seemed to work07:27
Quinthiusand as long as i know the package itself isn't being used independently also, of course07:27
CaiN_SAok so why the hell does my pc run : updatedb every morning ????07:27
AnswerQuinthius: Risk vs. Reward analysis shows Risk of re-installing orphaned packages.07:27
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stickybootbut now the installer is asking for the Gcc package07:27
QuinthiusAnswer: eh?07:27
ZodiacIf I am on breezy, what repository can I get the DVD decoder package from?07:27
naliothstickyboot: install "build-essential"07:28
AnswerQuinthius: What is the reward for removing your orphaned packages?  The risk is obvious = you might have to reinstall them07:28
QuinthiusAnswer: the rewards is clearing out junk i dont need07:28
stickybootWhere do i get the gcc package?07:28
AnswerQuinthius: It seems the pros and cons are in your favor07:28
Answer!gcc07:28
ubotuAnswer: Bugger all, i dunno07:28
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stickybootoh ok07:28
dazvidstickyboot: just get it through synaptic07:29
ZodiacAnybody?07:29
deFryskubuntu should make a list of ofphaned packages wich are still on after dist-upgrade to breezy07:29
stickybootnalioth: dod i do that through add aplications?07:29
deFryskorphaned*07:30
stickybootor do i dl something07:30
Answerstickyboot: apt-get install gcc07:30
Answerstickyboot: apt-get install gcc   will try to download and install gcc07:30
naliothstickyboot: you do that with synaptic or aptitude or apt-get07:30
QuinthiusdeFrysk: deborphan doesnt list them?07:30
adjacentok. ive been through the sound howto on the ubuntuguide, but sound is still a bit off... when gdm starts i hear the little drum roll, but when i log in i dont here the windchimes, etc... once logged into gnome xmms, etc wont play sound until i start esd from the command line... does this make sense?07:30
naliothAnswer: the answer is "build-essential"07:30
naliothstickyboot: install "build-essential" with synaptic07:30
TokenBadanyone here know if xchat has an auto-get like in mirc?07:30
stickybootwhere do i get synaptic? do i need to dl that or dose Ubuntu come withit07:31
nalioth!tell stickyboot about synaptic07:31
naliothstickyboot: ubotu loves you, read his msg07:31
deFryskQuinthius, never heard of that prog07:31
AnswerSystem -> Administration -> Synaptic Package MAnager    $synaptic07:31
ZodiacAnyone know where I can get libdvdcss from if running on breezy?07:31
QuinthiusdeFrysk: i just grabbed it to clear out orphaned stuff, messing around with it now07:31
stickybootah, ok thanks!07:31
deFryskQuinthius, gonna have a look07:32
naliothwhat is the difference tween debfoster and deborphan?07:32
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Quinthiusdoes "apt-get remove --purge <package>" = the "complete removal" option in synaptic?07:32
Quinthius(or uninstall or whatever it is)07:32
naliothQuinthius: yes07:32
AnswerQuestion: What is the best VNC / Freenx / Vine remote desktop program?07:33
jer_thanks nalioth07:33
dr_willisAnswer,  depends on your needs.. freenx is a different 'sort' of tool then vnc.. with different goals.07:33
HrdwrBoBAnswer: freenx is very good but a total bitch07:34
HrdwrBoBit's libraries and the way it works is total crack07:34
AnswerGoal: To view a remote desktop on very custom hardware... isn't vino easy?07:34
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dr_willisi thought vino was a vnc-variant.07:35
Juhazit is07:35
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spanglesontoastdoes breezy come with support for ati drivers now?07:35
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HrdwrBoBdr_willis: vino is VNC on for the current desktop07:35
thewayofzenanyone running xfce4.. apt-get install xfce4   just isnt working at all.07:35
dr_willisThis package provides a VNC server that integrates with GNOME, allowing you to export your running desktop07:35
kemikspanglesontoast:  hoary does, so i gues breezy do too07:35
dr_willis:)07:35
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Juhazso, if you have the bandwidth, and can spare the hit on the server vino causes by polling, it's certainly the easiest solution07:35
dr_willisso vino is a 'specilized' vnc server.07:35
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spanglesontoastwell it's just last time I checked which was a month ago07:35
Quinthiusspanglesontoast: it has ati drivers... but it can take a little work toget them to work.07:35
spanglesontoastit was still in testing07:35
dr_willisi recall using vini.. and it was.. sluggish.07:36
benplautanyone know how to change the Xscreensaver Lock screen dialog in breezy?07:36
spanglesontoastah07:36
AnswerQuestion: I have ssh tunnels can I forward the X display?07:36
kemikspanglesontoast:  breezy isnt stable yet, to be reeleased 13oct07:36
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spanglesontoastyea I know It's not like I'm gonna cry if a program don't work thou.07:37
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TokenBadin xchat does anyone know how to have it auto receive files?07:37
judgyhey i know this probly sounds dumb but i downloaded ubuntu but now i don't know what to do with it as to how to burn it and install it07:37
naliothspanglesontoast: you'll cry if your X doesnt work, i'd wager07:37
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spanglesontoastyea lol07:37
naliothTokenBad: not a good idea, but it is in one of the dropdown menus07:37
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judgycould someone help me?07:37
TokenBadI tried to find it..but no luck yet..will keep looking07:37
TokenBadI only use it once in a while...07:37
TokenBadthen turn it off07:38
Quinthiusspanglesontoast: for ati drivers you might wanna check out the breezy development forum, there are a few threads there07:38
spanglesontoastgot a url07:38
spanglesontoast?07:38
judgyall i need to know is how to burn it07:38
nalioths_dogTokenBad, under "IRC" click "auto accept files"07:38
TokenBadthere it is07:38
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deFryskjudgy in nereo ?07:38
TokenBadyeah they can't make it like in options07:38
Quinthiusspanglesontoast: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6423407:38
jtan325anyone here use breezy with nvidia?07:38
TokenBadlike normal07:38
spanglesontoastty mate.07:39
Quinthiusspanglesontoast: that is for ati's new drivers, using the ones in synaptic you could prolly omit some of those steps07:39
TokenBadthanks nalioths_dog07:39
judgydo i just burn it like a data cd?07:39
Quinthiusspanglesontoast: i gave a general summary of steps in post 2407:39
jtan325i just got breezy running, but i had to switch "nvidia" back to "nv" in my xorg.conf otherwise X crapped07:39
nalioths_dogTokenBad,  np07:39
spanglesontoastoh you mean recompiling from stratch you mean?07:39
spanglesontoastthe fglrx?07:39
jtan325and doing the nvidia-glx-config enable doesn't seem to fix the problem07:39
Quinthiusspanglesontoast: no compiling...07:39
Quinthiusspanglesontoast: well, the fglrx module needs to get compiled, but that only takes a couple seconds07:40
saik0OK, so after compiling a kernel with the proper drivers for my ethernet card became eth0 and my wireless interface....dissapeared?07:40
judgyi just need to get it so i can do my comp programming homework07:40
Quinthiusspanglesontoast: the rest of the drivers gets installed through a graphical installer07:40
deFryskjudgy, select the iso file and burn image07:40
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TokenBadanyone every do the ubuntu cd's from the site?07:40
spanglesontoastyea i've done it before I may just wait till october then07:40
deFryskjudgy, not copy image , but burn image07:40
Quinthiusspanglesontoast: but if you want to use the drivers in synaptic, you dont need to do that07:40
jer_yea07:40
spanglesontoastah07:40
judgyshould i make a bootable cd or data07:40
jer_the cd's come pretty quik07:41
TokenBadhow fast?07:41
Quinthiusspanglesontoast: i think for synaptic you just need to install xorg-driver-fglrx, libstdc++5, and copy over libdri.a from hoary07:41
TokenBadcause I did it07:41
saik0how do i tell hotplug i have a wireless interface, and i want it to be eth1?07:41
TokenBadand want to have an idea07:41
spanglesontoastah07:41
spanglesontoastanyways mate I gotta play a bit of dod07:41
spanglesontoastty for that info07:41
judgyand where is the iso file found at07:41
deFryskjudgy, what burnprog do u use07:42
TokenBadanyone know about SkyOS?07:42
judgynero07:42
TokenBadI saw someone talking about it?07:42
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revalif my current nvidia driver isn't working well, and I want to try a different one, are there others available that work with ubuntu?07:42
deFryskdid you download the ioso judgy ?07:42
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judgyyeah and i burned it onto the cd07:43
deFryskoh07:43
ZodiacWhat is the breezy backports url? can someone please help me?07:43
QuinthiusZodiac: i dont think there is one...07:43
shik45one sec07:43
deFryskwhat do you want to know then judgy07:44
Zodiacuh oh07:44
QuinthiusZodiac: and for "extras" just use hoary-extras for now07:44
deFrysk!backports07:44
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports07:44
judgywell don't i just restart my computer when it is burned?07:44
judgyto get it to run?07:44
QuinthiusZodiac: i think breezy is still too new for backports :P07:44
shik45go to apt-get.org07:44
shik45tons of dom repo's07:44
deFryskjudgy, make your pc boot from cd07:45
shik45just search for the package u need07:45
deFryskjudgy, and install07:45
thoreauputicshik45: no - that's a recipe fro breaking ubuntu07:45
shik45and u can find repos07:45
shik45works fine on mine07:45
benplautZodiac, no backports for breezy! it's all new, anyway :P07:45
TokenBadjer_, how long about does it take for them to come?07:45
shik45no probs07:45
benplautwhat'd ya need?07:45
thoreauputicshik45: please don't recommend 3rd part repos07:45
shik45why07:45
judgyhow do i do that...i have the cd in...and restarted and it didn't really read it at all07:45
shik45i use em on my five Ubuntu machines07:45
thoreauputicshik45: because they can break things07:45
shik45all rine nice07:46
ZodiacSo where can I get libdvdcss2?07:46
shik45so can anything'07:46
shik45my dog 207:46
deFryskjudgy, here is a burn iso to cd howto , check if you did that correctly http://www.weethet.nl/english/cdrw_usingnero_iso.php07:46
thoreauputicshik45: we are here a lot and we see the results07:46
shik45prob just noobws07:46
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shik45Ubuntu attracts noobs somehow07:46
Quinthiusshik45: users who are new and dont know fully what they are doing shouldnt use 3rd party repos for security, stability and reliability reasons07:46
shik45fine i agree07:46
Zodiacthat source threw an error07:46
thoreauputicshik45: yes it does - nothing wrong with that07:46
shik45it is good07:47
luckyabawhat would cause a java irc client to say "couldn't resolve host"07:47
shik45i like it07:47
shik45Kanotix i think gives it a run07:47
shik45it has surpassed Mepis07:47
shik45still not good enough for poweruser07:47
shik45I use Gentooo07:47
shik45for thoose things07:47
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luckyabais there a search feature for finding channels?07:48
naliothluckyaba: if the host is down, any network client won't resolve it07:48
shik45thoreauputic: what distros do u use07:48
luckyabanalioth: i can't resolve any host07:48
thoreauputicshik45: I use ubuntu only now - I have used slackware, and debian07:48
shik45try Kanotix07:49
shik45quite fast07:49
naliothluckyaba: can you browse? get email?07:49
Quinthiusluckyaba: sounds like you dont have a valid (or any at all) dns server in /etc/hosts07:49
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shik45i used some slack when i was noob07:49
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shik45i learned hard way07:49
shik45compiled everything by hand07:49
geyzeris php5 available in ubuntu yet?07:49
shik45i reccomend noobs start hard07:50
Quinthiusluckyaba: try going to system -> administration -> network and go to DNS tab, make sure some dns servers are set07:50
deFryskshik45, enough about yourself , tell us about your kids ;p07:50
shik45haha07:50
shik45i am 1507:50
Quinthiusshik45: a lot of people dont want to make using their computer into an extensive learning process or a chore07:50
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luckyabaQuinthius: i can, i am trying to setup a java client on my website and it wont ressolve any hosts07:50
shik45not a huge process07:50
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luckyabanalioth: yes07:50
shik45i was using Linux in 4th grade07:50
deFryskshik45, enough about yourself07:50
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naliothluckyaba: "on your website" not on your local box?07:51
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shik45guys go to #mepis07:51
thoreauputicshik45: please make an effort to be on topic07:51
deFryskshik45, hows your ma07:51
shik45good07:51
shik45put her on ubuntu07:51
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shik45she loves it07:51
luckyabanalioth: yeah its my local box07:51
shik45no spybot lol07:51
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deFryskshik45, geez07:51
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shik45she loves Gnome07:51
Quinthiusshik45: why would people in #ubuntu want to go to #mepis... people come here because they're using ubuntu, not mepis :P07:51
naliothdeFrysk: shik45: y'all take the bonding to #ubuntu-offtopic, please07:51
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Ex-CyberI have a USB SD reader/writer that keeps showing up as read-only; what should I do to diagnose this?07:51
pepsiwats a good p2p app?07:51
jtan325WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO07:51
shik45k07:51
deFrysknalioth, no thanks07:51
saik0so, anyways....how about telling me how to make hotplug go 'oh look a wireless card, i think I'll call it eth1'07:51
jtan325using breezy07:51
shik45Limewire Free07:52
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jtan325and got nvidia to work07:52
naliothpepsi: we dont p2p in here07:52
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shik45it is great and integrates nicely with KDE and Gnome07:52
deFryskpepsi, try nicotine07:52
Quinthiusare p2p networks still worth using? i remember when kazaa started going downhill and i havent used much since...07:52
shik45yes07:52
naliothQuinthius: if you like multimegabyte files full of nothing07:53
shik45Torrenting is taking over though07:53
Quinthiusnalioth: haha..... yeah :P07:53
pepsinalioth, i dont think talking about p2p apps counts as "p2p"ing07:53
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shik45hey guys did you hear about the guy from Linux Link Tech Show07:54
shik45he filmed his 8 year old07:54
shik45doing an ubuntu install07:54
naliothpepsi: talking about non #ubuntu things for more than a sentence or two should be done in #ubuntu-offtopic07:54
shik45by herslef07:54
Quinthiusshik45: it's not exactly the most complicated install process :P07:54
shik458 year oldx07:54
shik45that is awesome07:54
shik45i was doing the same07:54
shik45but girl07:54
shik45not to be sexist07:54
pepsinalioth, dont be gay07:55
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shik45thank you07:55
Jekameanis there a list of the apt-get programs?07:55
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shik45what do u mean Jekamean07:55
QuinthiusJekamean: synaptic?07:55
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thoreauputicshik45: overuse of the enter key spams the channel - please write sentences07:56
shik45Synaptic is the best frontend for Apt if that is what u want07:56
Jekameanhow do i get synaptic?07:56
shik45apt it07:56
Quinthiusno07:56
luckyabayou hsould have it07:56
thoreauputicpepsi: don't talk to naliothe like that please07:56
shik45or dl it07:56
Quinthiussystem -> administration07:56
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pepsizzz07:57
sypmer_08hi!!!07:57
kinhuHow can i make UBUNTU see my NTFS partition???07:57
saik0If you are runnign Hoary or Breezy you have it already, where Quinthius said07:57
Jekameanawesome, thanks quinthius!07:57
nalioth!tell kinhu about ntfs07:57
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kinhuwhy?07:57
naliothkinhu: read ubotu's msg to you07:57
Jekameanwhat html editor to you guys recomend?07:57
QuinthiusJekamean: i think bluefish and screem are both popular... then of course there's vi, gedit, emacs, etc.....07:58
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thoreauputic!tell pepsi about conduct07:58
pepsieat my ass07:58
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shik45lol07:59
Quinthiusbye bye :P07:59
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shik45jese07:59
naliothkinhu: b/c ubotu answered your question07:59
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shik45thoreauputic: come an man he was just kidding07:59
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Quinthiusshik45: he was being inappropriate for this kind of channel08:00
shik45van a ser mas simpatico08:00
shik45be more compassionate08:00
shik45don't give the channel a bad rep for being too tight08:01
aftertafdiscussions about stuff has a place elsewhere...08:01
thoreauputicshik45: it's only a +q08:01
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shik45people wont ask questions here anymore08:01
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shik45and be turned off Ubuntu08:01
Quinthiusshik45: how about instead, dont give the channel a rep for being filled with potty-mouthed kids :P08:01
shik45ur not funny08:02
[Chameleon] actually, it's people like shik45 and pepsi that turn me off08:02
thoreauputicshik45: that's enough08:02
macintoshri know someone who just put heaps of ubuntu cds in all the staff pigeonholes at my schoool :D08:02
nalioththe truth does hurt, sometimes08:02
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shik45funny guy08:02
[Chameleon] ... that, or, to the Thunderdome!!08:02
[Chameleon] macintoshr: that's kewl08:03
shik45u guys give the distro a bad name08:03
[Chameleon] macintoshr: I hope they were live DVDs08:03
thoreauputicshik45: you are on thin ice too - please adjust your attitude08:03
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[Chameleon] shik45: oh really? we are the ones cursing and encouraging p2p for the purpose of acquiring a warez copy of WINEX, eh?08:03
naliothshik45: this is a help channel, not a general chat channel (for that, there's #ubuntu-offtopic)08:04
[Chameleon] hmm, I could have sworn that was you and a pepsi a bit, too08:04
saik0Ubuntu - Linux for Human Beings (mins potty mouthed kids) ::sniggers::08:04
thoreauputicguys, #ubuntu-offtopic08:04
saik0minus*08:04
Jekameanhow do i set up a vnc server for another computer08:04
shik45it is point and click08:04
shik45set up a server on one comp08:04
shik45and clients on the comps u want to acess the server from08:05
Jekameani've used vnc, just not sure where the server is located08:05
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Jekameanand how to active ate it, all i see is the client08:05
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shik45use Tight VNC08:06
shik45it has a server client and a VNC client08:06
arkaishi08:06
geyzeris php5 available in ubuntu yet (as an official package)08:06
shik45look it up geyzer08:06
aftertafgeyzer:  it is in breezy.08:06
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shik45Jekamean: need more help?08:06
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Jekameanoh, so ubuntu dosnt have a vnc server already?08:07
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[Chameleon] Jekamean: vino is a user-mode VNC server08:08
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[Chameleon] Jekamean: I believe it is installed by default08:08
Baron_GrinnitUm... I'm having a terrible time getting my linksys wireless pcmcia card working. Any suggestions?08:08
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Jekameanawesome, i think my second monitor finally bit the dust08:08
aftertafJekamean:  if it isnt, you can get it just like in other debian basd distros, with synaptic/apt08:08
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Baron_GrinnitHas anyone sucessfully used a wireless pcmcia card in Ubuntu?08:09
[Chameleon] Jekamean: bah, too bad you're so far away... I got a spare.08:09
[Chameleon] Baron_Grinnit: not yet08:09
ChazZi haven't tried yet08:09
Jekameanit's cool, i have plenty laying around08:09
adjacentargh... im having problems... now i try to make something and i get configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH, but gcc-3.3-base is installed.08:09
[Chameleon] Baron_Grinnit: but, the card I'm trying to use requires ndiswrapper, which is another hurdle to cross.08:10
shik45i have08:10
Baron_GrinnitYeah, I was kinda hoping that I wouldn't have to go that route.08:10
adjacent[Chameleon] : you might be better off getting a new card that doesnt use ndiswrapper unless your time is very cheap08:10
shik45on my laptop08:10
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Jekameanstay away from the smb  cards, nothin but trouble over here08:10
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[Chameleon] adjacent: very true... but it's not obvious to me which is a good choice. Have any suggestions?08:10
zorba64adjacent: have you sudo apt-get install build-essential08:10
Baron_GrinnitChameleon: Any suggestions on what card to get?08:11
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adjacent[Chameleon] : seneo makes good cards, and anything orinoco works well. imho08:11
[Chameleon] Baron_Grinnit: hehe, well, don't get a Linksys. I can say that much.08:11
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adjacent[Chameleon] : my orinoco gold is the best card ive had yet08:11
[Chameleon] adjacent: 802.11g?08:12
Jekameani've heard orinoco gold is supported by alot of distro's out of box and is very easy to use08:12
adjacentzorba64: hmm. i had, but it was broken. fixed now, thanks08:12
[Chameleon] I've heard the same about orinoco08:12
saik0[Chameleon]  I've had nothing but good experiences with my ipw2200 card08:12
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adjacent[Chameleon] : not g08:12
jtan325anyone here using breezy?08:12
[Chameleon] but, I've also heard that newer revisions are different under the hood and not yet supported08:12
saik0jtan325, I am08:12
Jekamean<---breezy user08:12
aftertafjtan325:  loads.... but not me ;)08:12
zorba64adjacent: np08:12
adjacentsaik0: some people seem to love that card, others hate it. ive used it with good results08:12
jtan325hehe i just got it working08:12
[Chameleon] adjacent: I need 802.11g08:12
jtan325freakin sweet08:12
[Chameleon] jtan325: I'm using Breezy08:13
jtan325i didn't run away when X didn't start like i did a few weeks ago08:13
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jtan325anyway, i am having a minor problem with my mouse08:13
zorba64jtan325: kubuntu breezy08:13
jtan325it occassionally "pauses"08:13
Baron_Grinnityeah08:13
jtan325and then is fine08:13
[Chameleon] jtan325: notice any CPU spike correlating with the pause?08:13
mik3holy drunk is all i have to say god damnit08:13
Baron_GrinnitThanks for the help, dudes.08:13
[Chameleon] mik3: watch your language pls08:13
zorba64jtan325: yep - a bit "laggy"08:13
Jekameanin linux if i wanted to load a home dictory off another comptuer would it be like windows //compname/user/home08:13
jtan325yea exactly08:13
jtan325is that to be expected?08:14
jtan325or is there a way to fix?08:14
mik3cry babies08:14
jtan325[Chameleon] , should i just watch top or something?08:14
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[Chameleon] jtan325: need to determine the application hogging the CPU at those intervals08:14
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[Chameleon] jtan325: then you can proceed to determine what to do08:14
saik0Jekamean using SMB?08:14
zorba64jtan325: considering its state...better than its broken state a while back08:14
Jekameansmb?08:14
jtan325hehe yea this is great08:14
jtan325eclipse works too, which i really needed08:14
[Chameleon] Breezy is very nice.08:15
jtan325[Chameleon] , so should i just watch "top"08:15
mik3Ubuntu must be a christian distro08:15
ChazZi couldn't get eclipse to connect to my gmail account08:15
mik3chocked full of HIB08:15
mik3HIV08:15
mik3sorry08:15
mik3drunk08:15
mik3etc08:15
vbgunzhello everyone08:15
mik3hello vbgunz08:15
saik0I recompiled my kernel to add support for my wired sk98lin card, and now my wireless ipw2200 is broken08:15
jtan325or should I figure out what program's hogging using some other mehtod?08:15
kemik!tell Jekamean about samb08:15
kemik!tell Jekamean about samba08:15
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[Chameleon] jtan325: you could use top, or you could use the Gnome System Monitor08:15
[Chameleon] jtan325: whatever method you want08:16
alexman#ubuntu@irc.cl08:16
pepsiahem08:16
alexmanolaa08:16
alexmanolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa08:16
jtan325[Chameleon] , i've got system monitor running08:16
jtan325i'll see where the spikes happen08:16
vbgunzim on Breezy... my only gripe is update notice after update notice... I mean, In the last past two days I probably downloaded 300 plus updates and I don't even have backports enabled or nothing. Either Breezy is broken or these devs aint playing...08:16
saik0dmesg says ipw-2.3-boot.fw load failed: Reason -208:17
alexmanhi08:17
crimsunvbgunz: there are a lot of things being updated.08:17
aftertafvbgunz:  upgrading now: 900+ packages & 550 mb :D08:17
aftertafit not yet stable, makes sense.08:17
[Chameleon] vbgunz: they aint playing08:17
vbgunzhaha, thats nice08:17
[Chameleon] vbgunz: there are a few issues... actually I have to write up two bugs I found... but for the most part, it's quite usable and nice08:18
naliothvbgunz: you'll see major updates daily until the release date08:18
Jekameankemik: I'm looking to do a "remote profile" thing where i can have all users on one comptuer and no matter what comptuer they are on it will pull there files/folder/programs off one comp08:18
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vbgunzreally... I use to think Windows update was cool but it never updated Firefox, Thunderbird or any of my other applications... Ubuntu does that and I like it...08:18
Jekameankemik: so would i just set up the user and use \\compname\users\home as the home directory on each comp?08:18
[Chameleon] vbgunz: excellent point.08:18
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vbgunzoh one bug I found in Breezy on a dual boot with XP HOME is I keep getting two entries for HOME in the grub menu... anyone any experience with this?08:19
kemikJekamean:  you'll need to setup NFS or SAMBA for that to work08:19
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mkyb14anyone awake?08:19
naliothmkyb14: why?08:19
Jekameankemik: thanks08:20
mkyb14i can't get ubuntu to install08:20
mkyb14heh08:20
mkyb14correctly all the way that is08:20
mkyb14i'm at the console and it can't start the gui08:20
vbgunzI've gone to Admin > Boot and two entries pop up in the for Windows but no matter how many times I delete one and leave just one, another one shows up on the grub menu08:20
[Chameleon] vbgunz: I've not experienced that.08:20
aftertafmkyb14:  does it go through the text part of the install ok?08:21
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[Chameleon] vbgunz: hmm... are you prompted for your password when entering the Boot control panel?08:21
vbgunzman its bugging me, I was thinking about removing XP HOME completely from the grub in hopes it'll this time only leave one behind... Just afraid it might mess things up...08:21
vbgunzyes08:21
rfranc4hey guys new to linux andsomeone recommended ubuntu08:21
shik45kanotix08:21
shik45208:21
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mkyb14yea, but then it says that some packages couldn't install correctly and then brought up some screen where i could update/download/install  but that crashed so i ctrl.alt.del to restart and now i'm at the console trying to get some form of gui08:22
magloff1308:22
kemikrfranc4:  great choice ;)08:22
rfranc4how do I open the program to download the packages from the net I figured out how to add sources but cant figure out how to get packages08:22
[Chameleon] vbgunz: I'm going to try to replicate your issue08:22
vbgunzboth the XPs are TYPE=UNKNOWN and DEVICE=/dev/hda1... there always identical...08:22
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kemikrfranc4:  synaptic (system>>administration>>synaptic package manager)08:23
vbgunzyou know what, I am willing to try it and see what happens...08:23
[Chameleon] vbgunz: type and device are similar on mine under normal circumstances and I think that is fine.08:23
rfranc4thx08:23
vbgunzI just ghosted my system and backed up my personal data08:23
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[Chameleon] vbgunz: wait a sec08:23
aftertafrfranc4:  you might want to add some stuff to the repositories too.....08:23
rfranc4lol cant figure out how to whisper to you08:23
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aftertaf!tell rfranc4 about synaptic08:23
rejdenmornin08:23
aftertaf!tell rfranc4 about repos08:23
vbgunzsup Chameleon08:23
[Chameleon] vbgunz: BTW, deleting those menu entries does not alter the contents of the partitions they refer to. It only modifies the boot menu options.08:23
aftertafrfranc4:  check the links ubotu just gave you.08:24
rfranc4I found out how to add to repositories08:24
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[Chameleon] vbgunz: I'm trying to reproduce your issue. Please stand by.08:24
rfranc4from ubuntuguide.org08:24
vbgunzI understand...08:24
aftertafrfranc4:  cool... you're on the right track then ;)08:24
vbgunzoh, ok, you on vmware xen server or something?08:24
mkyb14?08:24
[Chameleon] vbgunz: no, tweaking my live system. no big deal... I can fix it if it goes awry.08:24
rfranc4is the way to whisper to you just by clicking on your name or is their a shortcut08:24
[Chameleon] rfranc4: /msg or /query08:24
vbgunzcool!08:25
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[Chameleon] rfranc4: however, please don't do either without prior permission from your target08:25
[Chameleon] rfranc4: whispering without prior permission is considered rude.08:25
mkyb14how do you load the gui desktop08:25
[Chameleon] mkyb14: it should load by default08:26
[Chameleon] mkyb14: are you not seeing the GUI login prompt?08:26
mkyb14no i'm at the console08:26
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[Chameleon] vbgunz: you have discovered a bug. Would you like to file it or do you want me to?08:26
mkyb14yea, but then it says that some packages couldn't install correctly and then brought up some screen where i could update/download/install but that crashed so i ctrl.alt.del to restart and now i'm at the console trying to get some form of gui08:26
vbgunzI have a general question... I just installed another copy of Ubuntu onto my SONY NW-HD1 walkman. I did it because it basically has a 20G harddrive inside. *BUT* it's not bootable... I would like to take my Ubuntu with me and I hope I can make it possible. Does anyone know of a way to boot into that USB drive through perhaps the live/install cd/dvd?08:26
[Chameleon] vbgunz: actually, we must first find out if it's already entered.08:26
vbgunzyou can file it08:26
[Chameleon] vbgunz: to avoid duplication.08:26
[Chameleon] vbgunz: OK08:26
vbgunzhow did you figure it out?08:26
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aftertafmkyb14:  did this happen during install, and since you havent got any further?08:27
[Chameleon] vbgunz: I created a duplicate entry manually by editing /etc/grub/menu.lst and then attempted to delete it with the Boot control panel.08:27
[Chameleon] vbgunz: it did not delete08:27
aftertafif so, i'd check out your CD, maybe your hard drive too... what was the error exactly?08:27
vbgunzsweet, you are nice08:27
vbgunzknow how to squash it ;)08:27
mekois there a nero version for ubuntu?08:27
mkyb14the install was complete i set up the pass words and now it said that it couldn't finish installing all of the packages because of some errors, and now i'm here trying to see if there's a way to get a gui up08:28
AzMoomeko, as in the cd burning tool?08:28
[Chameleon] meko: the nero for linux is old. try K3b.08:28
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adjacentargh. no matter what i do esd will not auto start08:28
rejden[Chameleon] , cdrecord? :)08:28
[Chameleon] meko: it requires KDE libraries, but it's very, very close to Nero.08:28
[Chameleon] rejden: heh08:28
mekoyes a burning tool08:28
AzMooI don't mind gnomebaker08:28
[Chameleon] meko: K3b08:28
mekowhere can i get it ?08:28
[Chameleon] meko: eroaster is nice, too08:28
adjacenti have to start it from the command line to hear audio, and even then it only works in apps configured to use esd. no alsa at all, despite alsamixer working fine08:28
[Chameleon] meko: apt-get / synaptic08:28
vbgunzyou know what I would love to see no joke... a type of Ubuntu that goes beyond live and install... A sort of Virtual Machine with read and write possibility... It is sort of why I am struggling to try and boot a non-bootable USB hard drive on the walkman... I really want to take my Ubuntu with me... Portability... Any tricks?08:29
[Chameleon] vbgunz: I try. :)08:29
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aftertafmkyb14:  silly question, do you have it on the net, this ubuntu?08:29
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vbgunzgood job through Chameleon... Its nice to have that confirmed08:29
mkyb14yea08:29
aftertafhehe... ok, run    sudo apt-setup.08:30
aftertafif it runs, you want to choose some online repositories.08:30
mkyb14but when i try apt-get update or anything it says denied, try su - root and it says that my root password is not authenticated which i did... so i don't have root access08:30
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jtan325[Chameleon] , i can't really seem to pinpoint the cause of the problem08:30
rejdenmkyb14, use sudo08:30
jtan325it's really hard to detect because it's like for a second08:30
jtan325that the mouse just "lags"08:30
Mr_EHey everyone08:30
vbgunzanyone know how to boot into a usb drive from the command line using the live/install cd/dvd?08:30
jtan325and then it's back normal08:30
fredrikHi, I'm having problems with my internet connection at home, it loses contact. It's not stable.08:30
jtan325it occurs like once every 3 minutes i'd guess08:30
rejdenso you have 2minutes left now08:31
vbgunzhello Mr_E08:31
rejden;)08:31
Mr_Eis there someone here who can give me some info on installing ubuntu08:31
jtan325lol08:31
aftertafmkyb14:  sudo apt-setup will first let u choose online repositories08:31
jtan325it just happened08:31
vbgunzwhat you need?08:31
[Chameleon] vbgunz: http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/black-dog-usb-key-linux-server-116696.php08:31
aftertafmkyb14:  then sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (i think)08:31
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jtan325zorba64, did you have this mouse lag problem too?08:31
aftertafjtan325:  when you ifconfig, do you still see your ppp0 ?08:31
safe_modewhere can i get the SDL dev library08:32
safe_modewhere can i get it?08:32
safe_modeer08:32
safe_modeyeh08:32
Mr_Ehi vbgunz08:32
safe_modethat was redundant08:32
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aftertaflol safe_mode :)08:32
crimsunsafe_mode: libsdl1.2-dev08:32
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Mr_Evbgunz, kan u give me sone info on installing ubuntu?08:32
safe_modecrimsun, many thanks08:32
mkyb14ha it says it's a non-ubuntu cd when it is08:32
mkyb14wtf08:32
vbgunzthat black dog is nice... I am telling you, I wish they had that for ubuntu... but without booting the host computer to get into it... sort of like stick it in and take over... that's the future of computing I tell you08:32
JekameanWhere would the vnc program be located?08:32
vbgunzwhat you need Mr_E08:33
shik45Mr_E: it is easy as pie08:33
shik45even this biggest retard can do it08:33
jtan325aftertaf, what?08:33
aftertafmkyb14:  try disbling the cdrom as a repository in apt-setup first08:33
mkyb14it now asks for method for apt ... should i choos http08:33
jtan325pp0?08:33
aftertafjtan325:  your net conneciton.08:33
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jtan325ummm it works08:33
jtan325i have an ip08:33
jtan325eth0 looks fine....08:33
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Mr_Evbgunz, i'm currently running off the live-CD & i want 2 know if i install it will it stuff with my existing windoes installations08:33
aftertafjtan325:  you on pppoE ?08:33
jtan325sorry, what is pppoE?08:34
rejdenMr_E, no, instalation will detect win partition and it will be added into group08:34
mkyb14should i choose http for repository?08:34
vbgunzhow i did it was a bit different than how some muight recommend08:34
rejdenMr_E, group/grub08:34
aftertafjtan325:  never mind ;)... i have a pb too with internet cnn.08:34
aftertafmkyb14:  yep08:34
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jtan325oh...08:34
jtan325any ideas about this mouse lagging?08:34
aftertafMr_E:  but i dont think you can install from the live cd.08:34
rejdenMr_E, anyway, backuping your data is wise while messing with partitions08:34
safe_modejtan325, what kind of interface?08:34
mkyb14says restricted packages and some long lines of that08:35
Mr_Eso it'll just show up in the list of operating systems on boot.ini?08:35
aftertafmkyb14:  ok.... PM08:35
jtan325safe_mode, what do you mean?08:35
Malin!locale08:35
ubotuMalin: Did you get hit by a windmill?08:35
vbgunzI ghosted my system and started clean... during windows setup, I simply left unallocated space for Ubuntu... but you can dual boot if you wish... I heard Ubuntu is good with figuring it out but I never installed Ubuntu alongside a fully partitioned windows disk...08:35
Malin!locales08:35
ubotuMalin: Do they come in packets of five?08:35
jtan325i am using fvwm for window manager...08:35
Malin:/08:35
mkyb14pm?08:35
safe_modejtan325, is the mouse local, and if so, what port?08:35
jtan325ah08:35
jtan325no, it's a usb mouse08:35
jtan325i am on a laptop08:35
safe_mode:/08:35
vbgunzcan you ghost or backup or install everything you need when you're done, it is worth it if not for at least the experience with a linux terminal ;)08:35
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safe_modedoes the touchpad/stick lag?08:35
rejdenvbgunz, actually i did it few days ago and it doesn't need any "guru" technique08:35
jtan325i'll start using it now and see08:35
jtan325:-)08:35
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Mr_Evbgunz, will it install on an existing ntfs partition?08:36
vbgunznah, I didn't bother to much with figuring it although now I am creating partitions with the Ubuntu manager...08:36
dhelhello every one08:36
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vbgunzno, doesn;'t like NTFs08:36
safe_modejtan325, pm me or beep me, im busy so i won08:36
safe_modewon't notice you08:36
oolonhey dhel08:36
safe_modeif you don't that is08:36
Mr_Evbgunz, what about FAT?08:36
dhelhello oolon08:37
vbgunzyeah I believe Ubuntu likes fat08:37
dhelasl plz?08:37
mkyb14ok done08:37
mkyb14now what08:37
vbgunzdo you have an empty partition you'd already like to use?08:37
safe_modedear god now08:37
safe_modeno08:37
oolonasl?08:37
safe_modeno no08:37
kemikbut FAT is a bad choice08:37
Mr_Evbgunz, ok ill just have 2 check if iv avtually got a FAT partition...08:37
aftertafmkyb14:  ok... now sudo apt-get update08:37
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safe_modei did not see ASL in a linux help channel08:37
Mr_Evbgunz, nope :(08:37
vbgunzI mean do you have a d or e or f drive just sitting around waiting on some action?08:37
dhel20m philippines08:37
safe_modeplease tell me i didn't just see that08:37
aftertafthen sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop08:37
safe_modeoh god08:37
dhelu? oolon?08:37
safe_modei did08:37
safe_modenooooo08:38
kemikheeheheehe08:38
safe_modekemik, hold me, im scared08:38
dhelasl oolob?08:38
kemik;)08:38
dhelasl oolon?08:38
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Mr_Evbgunz, well i have a couple of spare hard drives sitting around but i dont have any spare plugs 2 put them in08:38
kemikdhel:  this is the wrong forum for those kind of questions08:38
mkyb14ok08:38
oolondhel, whats asl?08:38
dhely?08:38
naliothdhel: take that into #ubuntu-offtopic, please08:38
dhelok08:38
dhelsorry08:38
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shik45dont take that dehl08:39
dhelok08:39
shik45*dhel08:39
dhelwat?08:39
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safe_modeoh wow08:39
shik45that is bullshit08:39
safe_modethis water thing is cool08:39
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naliothshik45: you've been warned08:39
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crimsunshik45: mind the Code of Conduct, thanks.08:39
rfranc4how do I make my terminal show all files in current directory08:40
rfranc4ls only shows one08:40
Mr_Evbgunz, im not sure what my file systems are.  how do i check from ubuntu?08:40
safe_moderfranc4, type "ls"08:40
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vbgunzthe reason why redoing my entire drive was easy for me Mr_E was because everyone should have both a ghost type program for imaging a disk and a backup program for safe guarding data... Its one of the reasons why I am trying to switch in a sense to Linux... I need something really stable, I hope this is it08:40
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JekameanHow do i start vino08:40
vbgunzim still new but you can have a look in Nautilus I believe... Not sure if it will tell you though... I believe its in /etc/hd*08:41
Jekameani type sudo vino server and it says command not found08:41
vbgunzit's /dev/hd* my bad08:41
mkyb14 /msg nickserv link <mkyb14> <mike14>08:41
Mr_Evbgunz, nautilus?08:41
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deFryskMr_E, sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdwhatewveryourdisk is08:41
vbgunzhold up08:42
vbgunzone sec08:42
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vbgunzim checking to see how to make this easy for you08:42
Mr_Ei put that into the terminal right?08:42
vbgunzwhat are you on Breezy or Hoary?08:42
deFryskMr_E, yes08:42
kemikor just "sudo fdisk -l"08:42
Mr_Evbgunz, Hoary08:42
kemikdont specifiy partition, it'll go through them all anyway08:43
mkyb14after apt-get update now what08:43
Jekameanbreezy08:43
mkyb14how do i get the gui up08:43
Mr_EdeFrysk, thanks08:43
odatubuntuanyone know of a good place to look for linux games?08:43
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deFryskman this coffee is good and strong ! :)08:43
aftertafmkyb14:  did it go through the installation of a lot of packages before the errors?08:43
vbgunzyou can try kemik's method... I was thinking more along the lines of showing you through the GUI as I know how...08:43
vbgunzbut try it08:43
vbgunzyou know where the terminal is?08:43
mkyb14yes08:43
aftertafok.08:43
naliothodatubuntu: in your synaptic under the "games" section08:43
Jekameanyes08:43
topyliodatubuntu: happypenguin.org at least08:44
aftertafmkyb14:  try    sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart08:44
vbgunzyeah kemik is the man08:44
odatubuntunalioth: yea i've been through there was looking for some nicer ones08:44
vbgunzdo as he said, "sudo fdisk -l"08:44
mkyb14i did apt-get upgrade08:44
mkyb14it's doing alot of installing08:44
naliothodatubuntu: ask uncle google where he keeps them08:44
SlicerDicer-what codec allows me to play avi files with mplayer?08:45
Mr_Evbgunz, yep i found it; both my drives are ntfs :(08:45
nessmukI'm trying to get around hal errors when hoary install finishes online after initial cd install. Can you just upgrade Warty direct to Breezy, or do you have to upgrade from Hoary?08:45
topyliodatubuntu: many of the best games are in the repositories, but of course browsing synaptic won't give you much of an idea what each game is like08:45
onkarshindemkyb14: You should have done apt-get dist-upgrade08:45
odatubuntunalioth: surprising not much shows up08:45
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oolonsafe_mode, what was that all about with dhel?08:45
naliothodatubuntu: really?08:45
vbgunzoutside of your system drive what info do you have on the other?08:45
mkyb14hmm good to know08:45
vbgunzis it info you'd like to keep?08:45
aftertafonkarshinde:  have you followed the problem he's having?08:45
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odatubuntunalitoth: nothing grade a anyway08:45
topyliodatubuntu: you should have hundreds of packages in the games section08:45
safe_modeoolon, they wanted to know your age sex and location, but i've nver seen that in a linux help channel before08:45
deFryskmkyb14, you can do that after the upgrade08:45
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onkarshindeaftertaf: Somewhat. Sorry if I am mistaken.08:46
safe_modeyou see that alot in a teenager's chatroom08:46
mkyb14ok08:46
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vbgunzif it isn't point to that partition when you get to it in the installer... If you have anything you'd like to keep ghost or backup now...08:46
aftertafonkarshinde:  hehe no pbs... you are pbly right anyway ;)08:46
Mr_Evbgunz, um...  well its a 40GB disk & its got 8GB free.  mainly a whole lot of skool stuff & songs & probly a couple of DVDs waiting to be watched08:46
jtan325safe_mode, you there?08:46
jtan325i think i messaged you08:46
oolonsafe_mode, oh dear lord! i didn't know what it meant i thought he mistyped something08:46
jtan325i'm an irc n00b, so forgive me08:46
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vbgunzhow much freespace do you have on the 32 leftover?08:46
safe_modejtan325, yeah08:46
[Chameleon] safe_mode: hehe, I was about to start saying something like "ASL is an old type of DSL broadband." LOL08:46
jtan325but yea, the problem still occurs with my touchpad08:46
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CryptidI have installed aMule on my Ubuntu but when i click on it, it dosent open can ne 1 tell me what the problem is08:47
XhyldazhKhi all...08:47
safe_modejtan325, thats strange08:47
deFryskamule is a java app ?08:47
XhyldazhKhey... in which package it's located gl.h and glut.h in breezy latest?08:47
deFryskor not ?08:47
nessmukcan you upgrade Warty to Breezy, or only from Hoary?08:47
Mr_Eon the 40GB disk i hav 8GB free space08:47
vbgunzhey Chameleon, where is that grub configuration file outside the GUI? If I modify that, I will kill the bug?08:47
Mr_Eat the very least i need 4GB of that08:47
topylinessmuk: it's best to upgrade to hoary first08:48
vbgunzwow, think about data back up ;)08:48
vbgunzDVDs come in nice and handy... Do you have Ghost?08:48
jtan325safe_mode, any ideas? and if it was just the usb mouse having the problem, what would you recommend?08:48
[Chameleon] vbgunz: /boot/grub/menu.lst08:48
nessmuktopyli....when hoary finishes the initial cd install, reboots and finishes online....I get these hal errors. Can I go to Breezy right after the initial cd install?08:48
onkarshindejtan325: Which laptop?08:48
KuolioCryptid: try to start amule from commandline (terminal) by running "amule", and look if it says any error messages08:48
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vbgunzthank you Chameleon!08:49
Mr_Evbgunz, yeah.  :(  i could probly use my lil bro's computer.  he's got about 60GB free soace & im sure he wouldnt mind just so long as i got rid of it fast enough08:49
[Chameleon] vbgunz: you can delete the duplicate lines without causing damage to your system. It will fix your problem.08:49
jtan325onkarshinde, dell inspiron 850008:49
[Chameleon] vbgunz: yw, glad to help. call on me if you need more direct help with that operation.08:49
topylinessmuk: sure08:49
Mr_Evbgunz, no i dont think iv got ghost08:49
safe_modejtan325, if it was just usb, i'd say your system was under alot of load08:49
vbgunzThanks!08:49
Kuolionessmuk: would be easyest to just download breezy .iso and install clean08:49
vbgunzMr_E, no ghost?08:49
jtan325and so that's to be expected then?08:49
nessmuktopy...thanks.Can you tell me the commands to lowlevel format the hd and block out bad sectors? Before the install?08:49
vbgunztrue image or any imaging tools?08:50
Kuoliopeople have been having some troubles with "dist-upgrade", or so is the word on the forums..08:50
Mr_Evbgunz, well if ubuntu comes with ghost then iv got it but idk this is the 1st time iv ever run it08:50
CryptidKuolio, it says command not found08:50
vbgunzI backed up my 2.2G Ubuntu Partition with Ghost in under 6 minutes... Pretty cool for an image ;)08:50
naliothKuolio: not really, easiest would be use the network, followed by d/l the cd and using "apt cdrom"08:50
topylinessmuk: listen to Kuolio. if you are doing a clean hoary install, you might as well install breezy instead08:50
vbgunznah, Ghost is for Windows only I think08:50
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Mr_Evbgunz, about how much space does ubuntu need?08:51
vbgunzI believe you can download a corporate trial for 30 days from symantec.com08:51
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vbgunzbare minimum I believe is 2G08:51
nessmuktopy...does that mean an iso is available for Breezy?08:51
Mr_Evbgunz, yeah my brother used 2 have ghost.08:51
vbgunz4 and you're good... Thats how I started out with Ubuntu on a Virtual Machine from vmware08:51
deFrysknessmuk, breezy preview yes see topic08:51
topylinessmuk: yes, there's a "preview"08:51
nessmuktopy...thnx08:51
jtan325anyone here use eclipse?08:51
onkarshindejtan325: I use it but not on linux08:52
jtan325arg yea i use it in windows already08:52
Mr_Evbgunz, would there be a prog that would fiddle with partitions so that id be able 2 make a 4BG partition on my drive & leave the rest of the drive there?08:53
vbgunzMr_E, can you burn the dvd home movies on your second partition? Put them on media? You can definitely use that second partition you have...08:53
jtan325one of my main reasons for upgrading to breezy was for the native eclipse 3.108:53
XhyldazhKnative eclipse????08:53
jtan325but i'd like to install some plugins08:53
vbgunzI believe Ubuntu can do it... I never tried it but heard many times it can be done08:53
CryptidPlease suggest some Good P2P applications for Ubuntu (not torrent Clients)08:53
jtan325and it requires writing to places like /usr/lib08:53
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jtan325i'm just wondering, should i just "sudo eclipse"08:53
jtan325and then install08:53
Mr_Evbgunz, my other hard drive is an 80GB.  its got 4BG free space.  not enough to play around with DVDs :(08:53
jtan325or will that totally taint my non-sudo files08:54
deFryskCryptid, nicotine as i saig earlyer08:54
deFrysksaid*08:54
jtan325and i'll have to go chmodding and chwonning stuff08:54
Mr_E*4GB free space - type08:54
jtan325so normal user can use it again08:54
Mr_E*typo  :S08:54
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vbgunzwow dude you're an archive man ;)08:54
onkarshindejtan325: I am not sure how is eclipse is installed on linux. On windows everything goes in same directory08:54
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onkarshindejtan325: I suppose sudo eclipse and then installing should work for all the users.08:55
jtan325yea08:55
jtan325but i am afraid that it uses the workspace08:55
jtan325that is non-sudo08:55
draug_nMr_E: the best program for fidlling with partitions is Partition magic. But that costs money tho... *sure i paid for mine. lalalala ;)*08:55
jtan325in /home/jtan32508:55
vbgunzhard drive space is like real estate... it aint worth nothing when you aint got nothing ;)... Not to worry, you can simply use the live CD/DVD or get the cables for your DISK or make room by backing up to media08:55
Mr_Evbgunz, yeah i know.  my dad wants 2 store every single CD we have on tha hard disk.  that way when the CD stuff up we can just burn another one08:55
saik0eclipse as in the IDE?08:55
jtan325and sudo-ing might "taint" the perms on my files08:55
jtan325saik0, yes08:55
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Kyttenhi guys08:56
vbgunzOr buy a single 200GB HD and burn all your back ups onto that...08:56
Mr_Edraug_n, there are ways to get around paying...  but lets not go into that...  lol08:56
onkarshindejtan325: plugins don't get installed to workspace. So they will be installed to some place which is accessible to all.08:56
aftertafgot a PC here, and every time i try updating anything, with apt or synaptic, it just freezes... probably hardware right?08:56
Kyttencan anybody helps me with my modem device08:56
vbgunzI believe there not that much08:56
saik0Hello, Kytten08:56
aftertafKytten:  ask your questyion, someone will answer ;)08:56
naliothaftertaf: try it with the livecd08:56
Kytteni can't connect throgh ubuntu08:56
Kyttenhi saik008:56
onkarshindeKytten: internal or external modem?08:56
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Mr_Evbgunz, iv been toying with the idea of getting a 400GB disk & giving my lil sis my 40GB08:57
Kytteninternal08:57
topylijtan325: i thought the best way to install eclipse would be 'apt-get install eclipse-sdk'08:57
aftertafnalioth:  ok. if it freezes then its hardware right?08:57
onkarshindeKytten: Do you know which model?08:57
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Kyttencreative08:57
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jtan325topyli, yes, i've gotten eclipse installed08:57
naliothaftertaf: one would think so08:57
topylijtan325: ok, sorry, i probably missed a part of your conversation08:58
jtan325i'm trying to install some plugins08:58
onkarshindeKytten: Noramally linux distros doesn't contain modem drivers by default.08:58
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Mr_Edraug_n, so if i got partition magic it would be able 2 make me a 4GB partition without me having to format the whole disk?08:58
Kyttenso what do i have to do08:58
topylijtan325: the plugins are not packaged and apt-gettable?08:58
vladuz976gdm doesn't use .xsessions file?08:58
jtan325uhhhhh not really08:58
vbgunzthat sounds good but remember, for some reason the more space you have the more reluctant you might be to make daily or bi-weekly backups... You might think all that space all is good. It can be stolen at any moment or blown away by something like Katrina or damaged, etc... get into backups and imaging... very cool way to respect your data ;)08:58
jtan325that would just populate the repos unnecessarily08:59
onkarshindeKytten: Search for driver on creative's site.08:59
topylijtan325: i don't think debian or ubuntu have ever worried about that :)08:59
Kyttenok08:59
naliothvbgunz: pssst, all you really have to do is backup your home directory08:59
Kyttenwhat for08:59
vbgunzsort of the reason I was completely ready to re-do my HD the second I fell in love with Ubuntu... in about 2 hours everything was perfect ;)08:59
Mr_Evbgunz, lol...  iv never backed up my data.08:59
Kyttendriver for ubuntu08:59
draug_nMr_E: yup:) later versions of PM (>=7 i think) even support linux ext2 :)08:59
Kyttenthen i can install it09:00
[Chameleon] vbgunz: I've got 150GB for linux and 50GB for /home. I don't backup my Linux, just /home. Though, I should probably backup /etc since it's nice to have the system settings handy.09:00
onkarshindeKytten: Driver for linux09:00
vbgunznalioth we're talking Windows, you probably will never understand ;)09:00
Kytteni got my creative driver09:00
Kyttenbut it's just works for xp and microsoft stuff09:00
[Chameleon] vbgunz: heheeh.. watch it, he's got OPs. :)09:00
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vbgunzyou neither Chameleon though I'll jot this down for later reference ;)09:00
Mr_Edraug_n, thanks!  ill go have a look at it.  :D09:00
onkarshindeKytten: If you are refering to the CD you got with modem, it most probably contains windows only driver. Still see if you can find anything on it?09:01
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vbgunzjust kidding... I just take my info seriously... I do not have the Linux idea of structure mapped out but my Windows data is backed up as of a few hours ago ;)09:01
vbgunzhave too...09:01
draug_nKytten: try http://linmodems.org/ for some pointers:)09:01
Kyttenonkarshinde : nothing for ubuntu in it09:01
[Chameleon] vbgunz: I understand perfectly.09:01
Kytteni tried manytimes09:01
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draug_nKytten: du you know the chipset (try lspci in a terminal)?09:02
Mr_Edraug_n, is that symantec partition magic?09:02
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onkarshindeKytten: I suppose there isn't any creative driver available. There is high probability that your modem is based on some third party chipset. If you can find out which then it is easy to find driver.09:02
pefhello09:03
vbgunzsort of why I wish to switch to Linux... Windows XP is rock solid, stable and enjoyable... I just have this problem where for no apparent reason Windows will not boot... I am telling you I am paranoid of restarting Windows... I might never see my data... I mean I have to boot off a live cd to recover, it's slow... im tired of that09:03
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Jekameanwhen i connect to my vnc server my client shows me RFB 003.007 and that is it09:03
Jekameani searched google and cant find anything09:03
onkarshindevbgunz: Windows may be enjoyable. But I disagree that it is rock solid & stable.09:04
vbgunzWoah, relax with Partition Magic... im telling Mr_E if you use that you have better had made a backup first... On rare occasions on more than enough blue moons, that PM can blow your data up!09:04
Kyttenonkarshinde : what do u advise me to do09:04
saik0In the past Partition Magic has worked about 2 out of 10 tiomes without destroying and/or corrupting data09:05
vbgunzIm sorry, I didn't mean rock solid... more like cotton candy... seriously better than anything before it, honest... I had it for over 4 years and it only froze about maybe 10 times or less...09:05
Mr_Evbgunz, thnx.  ill make sure i back everything up 1st09:05
saik0for me..09:05
onkarshindeKytten: There are some scripts available on net that can identify your chipset of modem. Search for them. Then search for the driver according to chippset.09:05
vbgunzI had a few blue screens but nothing serious... I sort of pushed it09:05
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draug_nwell, i have never had too much problems w/ partition magic... but it helps to have _some_ idea of what youre doing there ^_^09:06
CryptidNicotine is Good any other Nice P2P applications09:06
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onkarshindevbgunz: Oh. I miss those blue screens and sudden crashes in Ubuntu.09:06
Kyttencan u give me the site for those scripts09:06
vbgunzMr_E please do so, you telling me you have school stuff and things you want to keep... make sure do that09:06
Mr_Edraug_n, any ideas on where 2 DL PM from?09:06
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saik0Kytten, it would be a good idea to look on the ubuntu forums as well. http://www.ubuntuforums.org09:07
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ompaulonkarshinde, perhaps you should install the BSOD screensaver, it will help you feel at home :)09:07
GworldFlavaHei hei09:07
vbgunzactually in Hoary about two weeks ago, I had two completely non responsive experiences... No blue screen but a deep freeze... nothing was responsive... I couldn't believe it but decided to stick with it09:08
Kyttenty Ssaik009:08
Mr_Evbgunz, i will.  :D  tha main problem as i c it is the 5GB of songs iv got 2 transfer over a 6mb/s network09:08
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vbgunzI sort of have faith in Ubuntu... It looks good, it's fast and it has some apps out the box... I really love the fact that everything get's updated which beats Windows hands down...09:08
onkarshindeKytten: Doenload this script. Uncompress it & run it. http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/scanModem.gz09:08
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Mr_E22.8MB NOOOO!!!09:09
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vbgunzdo it before you go to bed... On Windows, Make a copy if you're going right to bed... reason why is because if you move the files and wake in the morning they might not have moved. Instead you'll be looking at a prompt stating "really want to move this... yack"... then you say yes and realize your movement just begun09:10
Kyttenok onkarshinde after that what that script do09:10
onkarshindevbgunz: In windows also everything gets updated. Just that you have to wait for 1-2 yeras in which time you will probably be using 2nd/3rd consecutive release of Ubuntu.09:10
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vbgunztrust me, copy it over to the new drive then delete it if all goes well09:10
Madeyeguys, any good idea to install/run IE standalone ? I need to run more than one version of IE for web development09:10
ohphrackui need more speed! so thinking about replacing metacity with openbox. anyone here done that?09:10
aftertafMadeye:  IE?09:10
fluffybunny_I log in to gnome, but I want to try kde, so i have installed it - how do I run it?09:10
onkarshindeKytten: It will tell you the chipset of your modem.09:10
Kytten:)09:11
aftertafMadeye:  you can use it with wine, check out the firefox IEView plugin for an install guide09:11
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Madeyeaftertaf, Internet explorer09:11
Kyttenthat's wonderful09:11
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nethi09:11
aftertaffluffybunny_:  install kde:   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop09:11
Kytteni am really looking forward to connect to net throgh ubuntu09:11
netwazz up!!!09:11
fluffybunny_aftertaf: i have already installed it - how do I run it?09:11
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aftertaffluffybunny_:  oops.... you should be able to specify it at login with gdm09:12
nethi09:12
onkarshindenet: Roof. What about you?09:12
fluffybunny_aftertaf: cool, thanks09:12
aftertaffluffybunny_:  choose session > KDE / GNOME / failsafe etc...09:12
fluffybunny_aftertaf: excellent.... thanks09:12
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aftertafonkarshinde:  funny ;)09:13
Kyttenlast question onkarshinde09:13
Kyttenonce that program detect my chipset09:13
onkarshindeGo on.09:13
Kyttenwhat should i do next09:13
onkarshindeKytten: You should then probably look into this site http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/09:14
Kyttenthey i should download something from there09:14
Kyttenlike driver09:14
saik0Adding the sk98lin ethernet drivers into the kernel source and recompiling it with support enabled as a module fixed my wired card, and broke my ipw2200  wireless card (which was previosly on eth0)09:14
onkarshindeYes. Hope fully you will get the driver pre compiled or in source format.09:14
onkarshindeKytten: Going for lunch. Will get back in some time.09:15
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vbgunzbrb, good luck Mr_E09:16
saik0http://pastebin.com/363284 is what dmesg gives me09:16
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Kyttensaik0 once i download find my driver i should saved it to a floppy then add it on my ubuntu09:17
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Kytten-find09:17
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saik0Kytten, I'm afraid i cant help you much. All i know about ppp in linux is that I hate doing ppp in linux09:18
draug_nkytten: yup. might also want to add any installation instrictions you find on that site to the floppy09:18
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draug_nit's been a while (~4 yrs) but i did get a winmodem to work in slack once :)09:19
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Kyttenok good09:21
snausagesi updated my sources list to breezy and would like to *ONLY* install the new version of gaim. do i just do sudo apt-get install gaim?09:21
bob2that's not really possible09:22
bob2or feasible09:22
rigelnoob alert. i just installed kubuntu, and i installed a new ide hd, which was recognized by the bios but not by ubuntu09:22
zorba64snausages: is asking for trouble09:22
rigelis there a way i can force it to scan for new hw or something?09:22
bob2rigel: it recognised it just fine09:22
snausageswell, i was told to do that if i wanted to get gaim 1.509:23
bob2rigel: it just hasn't mounted it anyway09:23
bob2er, anywhere09:23
rigelwell its not in /etc/fstab09:23
bob2rigel: www.ubuntuguide.org should explain how to mount it09:23
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bob2rigel: right, it doesn't magically appear there09:23
zorba64snausages: you will get it, plus some other troubles you might not want09:23
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ThePyromaniacHey, anyone know a menu editor better than smeg?09:23
snausageszorba64, alright then... whats the right way of doing it?09:23
aftertafsnausages:  its a way of having gaim, but you'd be better going breezy OR waiting for stable breezy09:23
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ThePyromaniacit wont delete submenu's, and it doesnt update the trees09:24
zorba64snausages: put up with the older one, download the source code and build it yourself09:24
ThePyromaniacis there a command line way to edit the menu?09:24
bob2that's another bad solution09:24
snausageszorba64, i tried that.. without luck. heh09:24
rigelbob2: what am i looking for09:24
bob2if you really need a newer gaim, just upgrade to breezy09:24
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dazvidbob2: whats the newer gaim got to offer?09:25
snausagesbob2, id rather not09:25
zorba64bob2: thats a better solution?09:25
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bob2dazvid: I have no idea09:25
Madpilotbob2: I'm surprised to see you recommending ubuntuguide.org - is the wiki help on mounting new HDs that bad?09:25
saik0or use backports...while it's a bad idea it's at least not as bad as adding breey repos09:25
dazvidok09:25
vbgunzyup yup back in black B|09:25
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bob2zorba64: it is if breezy is releasing in 2 weeks09:25
bob2Madpilot: probably, but I don't know the URL off-hand09:25
topylidazvid: a brand new version number! you can tell your friends you have a brand new gaim :)09:26
bob2snausages: what does 1.5 have that you want so badly?09:26
dazvidlol09:26
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bob2saik0: using backports at this point is silly09:26
bob2unless they've been very very careful to make sure breezy upgrades go safely09:26
Yoshiki  ?;)09:26
vbgunzthanks Chameleon! That did fix the problem!09:26
vbgunzahh the dude broke out09:26
zorba64bob2: for one package?...09:26
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snausagesbob2, security fixes, i'm told.09:26
Madpilotbobbyd: I just checked, there doesn't seem to be any 'how to mount a HD' page at the wiki at all... :(09:26
vbgunzsomeone should make backports official... in some sense at least...09:26
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bob2zorba64: he/she will be upgrading to breezy in 2 weeks anyway09:27
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vbgunzsucks Ubuntu don't play DVD's out the box... At least it doesn't play my Dave Chapelle's09:27
naliothbob2: how does one read that and respond? >>yoshiki09:27
bob2snausages: if there are security issues in gaim, they will be fixed in the version in hoary09:27
zorba64bob2: so he should just sit on it until then09:27
bob2vbgunz: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:27
bob2Madpilot: suck09:27
bob2Madpilot: seveas had something, no idea where it went tho09:27
bob2zorba64: Iagree09:27
Kyttensaik0 that programs which give me that guy scanmodem it's like an image white icon , i can't start it , it's asking me to choose program to start it with , what do i choose or what to do09:28
vbgunzI know about that bob2, thanks. But thats not what I mean... it should just play... not being lazy cause I can do it, just don't like the idea :(09:28
bob2nalioth: I don't know, it appears to require a font I don't have09:28
janidoes sum1 know why subtitles won't work with totem/vlc?09:28
bob2vbgunz: not possible, sorry09:28
naliothbob2: i dont have it either09:28
bob2vbgunz: ubuntu is not allowed to support dvd playback; complain to your government if this annoys you09:28
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[Chameleon] vbgunz: I'm glad that worked. I can help you get DVD playback working, too09:28
vbgunzit's cool bob2, I will live with it and see what Linux is all about without backports... experimenting till I go nuts!09:28
snausagesi guess i just found it weird that id have to wait for an entirely new release of the os just to get the new version of the IM client (coming from the windows world)09:28
aftertafKytten:  i think it was a script he asked you to download.09:28
vbgunzI could get DVD playing, its no problem09:28
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naliothvbgunz: linux is what YOU make it, a CD with a distro is just a starting point09:29
Kyttenyup09:29
aftertafKyral:  so you need to run it in console...09:29
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bob2vbgunz: it'sashame ubuntu can't play it out of the box, but it's not ubuntu's fault09:29
vbgunzjust don't like the idea of backports... I have over 700 MPG home movies... can't see them without backports :(09:29
Kyttenthe name is scanmodem09:29
Madpilotbob2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive - found it...09:29
bob2snausages: you can get the newer version if you want, but there's generally no point09:29
vbgunzI understand... I am slowly building rebel blood09:29
bob2Madpilot: ah, you should tell ubotu09:29
bob2vbgunz: you don't need backports to play movies09:29
bob2vbgunz: multiverse != backports09:29
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vbgunztotem didn't play my MPGs09:29
bob2vbgunz: then install mplayer09:30
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Madpilotbob2: just setting that up now09:30
[Chameleon] vbgunz: totem kind of sucks09:30
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bob2vbgunz: which is entirely orthogonal to backports09:30
bob2vbgunz: it'sin multiverse09:30
vladuz976does anybody here know much about GDM ?09:30
aftertafKytten:  ok. open a terminal and run it....09:30
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drcodehi all09:30
vbgunzI tried xine but it kept locking up my disk drive09:30
aftertafKytten:  is it on your desktop?09:30
drcodeI need help09:30
aftertafdrcode:  ask away;)09:30
[Chameleon] vbgunz: totem uses xine for the backend09:30
Kyttenrun it from my xp09:30
drcodehow I Can fix this error09:30
drcodeldconfig: /usr/lib/libavcodec-cvs.so is not a symbolic link09:30
vbgunzI've got to read up on that, thanks for the pointer bob209:30
Kytteni am using my xp now09:30
[Chameleon] vbgunz: I think it can also use something else, but I forget09:30
aftertafKytten:  nope, from your linux (are you on dualboot?)09:30
[Chameleon] vbgunz: be sure to install and try VLC, too. It's pretty good09:31
Kytteni can't use my linux09:31
vbgunzI just want to keep my Ubuntu legit... I want to see why it is so popular without trying to break the rules...09:31
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[Chameleon] vbgunz: what rules? I didn't know there were rules!!09:31
Kyttencuz i can't connect to net09:31
[Chameleon] vbgunz: ;P09:31
Kyttenmy modem dosent work09:31
Kytteni couldent find it on that list09:31
vbgunzI have a real dvd player, a ps2, etc... I don't game much and if I was bored to death I'd boot into windows09:31
Madpilotubotu tell bob2 about mount09:31
drcodeany idea?09:31
vbgunz:)09:31
drcodeldconfig: /usr/lib/libavcodec-cvs.so is not a symbolic link ???09:31
rigelhow do i get rid of amarok?09:31
rigeli couldnt find the package09:31
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draug_nrigel: sudo apt-get remove amarok _should_ do it09:32
snausagesbob2, if i wanted to build from source, id have to get rid of the old version, right?09:32
[Chameleon] Kyral: what's the modem?09:32
aftertafKytten:  oK... you'll need to reboot to linux and run the script. Can you do that and tell us what type of modem it is when you reboot to xp?09:32
vbgunzon my second day I followed the unofficial guide a bit and installed all those restricted formats but I left the backports open in the config and before I knew it I had updates conflicting... I heard someone the other day say something like "when you done, comment it out" I'll do that next time09:32
CrashBoxhey guys....... finally got limewirefree into a .deb and was able to install using dpkg..... how can i submit this to a repository so other can d/l it?09:33
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aftertafsorry Kyral , we keep getting the wrong nick.. ;)09:33
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bob2snausages: no09:33
bob2snausages: you'd leave it and install the source version to /usr/local/09:33
rigelwhy does it want to remove the kubuntu-desktop package too? that sounds ominous09:33
saik0rigel, thats only a dummy-package09:33
aftertafrigel:  amarok is a part of kde package (in a dependancy point of view)09:33
thoreauputicrigel: it's OK  - that's just a metapackage09:34
saik0yea what he said09:34
aftertaffor the kde metapackage.09:34
rigelok, and now how to i change the default audio player to xmms09:34
benplauti installed gstreamer plugins, w32codecs, and totem-xine, but i can't get videos to play09:34
vbgunzcan someone please help me somehow boot into my USB drive... I have an installation of Ubuntu on there and I am hoping to get into it... I need to somehow boot from CD and then from CD point to the USB drive and boot up. Only problem is my USB drive is not bootable and so why I am asking to boot from CD... i need the USB initialized otherwise no go... Any help would be greatly appreciatedz1209:34
benplautthe time and size works, but the picture is blank09:34
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aftertafvbgunz:  cant you boot from usb in bios?09:34
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Kyttenaftertaf my modem is ceartive09:35
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janianyone got subtitles to work?09:35
Kyttendoes that helps09:35
aftertafKytten:  yeah, but the chipset and all, you need to run the script in linux for that info09:35
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rigelnow how to i change the default audio player to xmms09:35
aftertafi thnk09:35
Kyttenk09:35
vbgunznah, but even if I could "which I can't, emachines played me good" I would like to know if it is possible to boot into the USB drive from a bootable CD/DVD... the reason is i wish to take Ubuntu with me and not everyone such as myself will have such an option in the BIOS09:35
Kyttenrun it where09:36
Kyttenwhich place09:36
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draug_nvbgunz: maybe http://rz-obrian.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/knoppix-usb/ could give u some hints?09:36
geniuscan anyone help me with a internet connection problem, i think it has to do with dhcp.09:36
aftertafKytten:  its a script you need to run from a terminal in Linux09:36
Kyttenu told me something like terminal09:36
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aftertafgenius:  what is the pb?09:36
vbgunzI need a CD/DVD which will initialize the USB, then attempt to boot into it "hopefully keeping the connection alive"09:36
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Kyttendoes that terminal read form floppy09:37
vbgunzthanks Draug_n I'll look now09:37
draug_nvgunz: google is your friend too:)09:37
saik0aftertaf, tastes good with jelly09:37
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Kyttencuz i can't get through my other hd drives once i go to linux09:37
geniusaftertaf: I installed ubuntu and i lose connection to internet every now and then, it's very unstable.09:37
vbgunzI tried google and maybe it is in my face but being new to Linux all together is probably a reason why I am missing it :909:37
aftertafKytten:  should be ok... you need to 'mount' drives...... hard drives and floppies in the same way.09:37
vbgunzi'll be back09:37
janikytten u can make other drives visible to ubuntu09:37
Kyttenhow can i do that09:38
Nermaledit /etc/fstab09:38
Kyttenthey are visibles but not allowed to use them09:38
janikytten: ubuntuguide.org09:38
aftertafKytten:  reboot to linux, once booted, open a terminal session and put in the floppy, type 'sudo mount /media/floppy' then 'cd /media/floppy' then type the name of the script09:38
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NermalKytten, edit the umask option perhaps in /etc/fstab09:38
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topylisomebody must remember the url of the script that Seveas(?) wrote09:38
janiit is very clearly explained there :)09:38
aftertaf!tell Kytten about mount09:38
geniusaftertaf: how can i check if it is a dhcp problem? right now internet works.09:38
Nermalumask=022 will give you read and execute permissions09:39
drcodeany idea how I can fix it?09:39
drcodeldconfig: /usr/lib/libavcodec-cvs.so is not a symbolic link ???09:39
Nermalerm09:39
Nermalmake it a symbolic link ? :)09:39
aftertafgenius:  could be a modem driver problem.... i have the same type of pb at home too.09:39
ohphrackuwhat umask to set default file creation permissions to owner rwx only?09:39
aftertafgenius:  type dmesg and see if you get a lot of dropped packets.09:39
vbgunzman I am afraid I might need some more ideas on booting in... in a sense I cannot believe this isn't talked about more than I had hoped09:39
Nermalohphracku, 00009:40
Nermaloh09:40
Nermal077 even09:40
geniusaftertaf: bc internet works perfect with suse and windows.09:40
Nermalit's the opposite of the permission09:40
Nermalhence the "mask" :)09:40
ohphrackui have it set 077 or is it 02209:40
ohphrackuill check09:40
Nermal077 should be09:40
Nermalthat will give you 70009:40
Nermalpermission wise09:40
ohphrackuyeah 07709:41
[Chameleon] benplaut: DVDs or media files?09:41
aftertafgenius:  no idea on that one, sorry.....09:41
benplaut[Chameleon] , media... AVI, mostly09:41
[Chameleon] benplaut: DIVX?09:41
geniusaftertaf: ok, thanks anyway09:41
benplaut[Chameleon] , nope09:41
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ohphrackuno 077 sets -rwx-r-x-r-x09:41
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ohphrackushit i just want full 70009:42
Nermalohphracku, erm... man umask ? :09:42
ohphrackui know09:42
Nermald0h :|09:42
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Nermalgoogle ? :)09:42
ohphrackuyeah09:42
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ohphrackuwoo haa haa haaaaa09:42
[Chameleon] benplaut: run your media player from the terminal and try to play a file. What messages does it generate?09:42
[Chameleon] benplaut: if it's a lot of text, don't paste it here, instead inform me first and we'll go to #flood09:43
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benplaut[Chameleon] , i know... i've been around here a few months :P09:43
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ohphrackuhey i noticed a bug when running gxine and watching dvd09:43
[Chameleon] benplaut: OK... didn't want to take the chance09:43
benplaut[Chameleon] , just repeating the following a few times:09:44
benplaut(totem:18637): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_file_system_path_is_local: assertion `path != NULL' failed09:44
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Nermalohphracku, were you watching 'a bugs life' ?09:44
[Chameleon] benplaut: I haven't been an ubuntu user for very long, but I've been using Linux for more than 7 years09:44
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benplauti am in nead of a reinstall... i think i'll give this up09:44
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ohphrackuif you switch workspaces while viewing dvd the gxine or just the whole x would crash09:44
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[Chameleon] benplaut: try one thing first09:44
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benplauti b0rked a ton of stuff already, in les than a month ;p09:44
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wezzerwhen breezu is going to be released? soon?09:44
benplaut[Chameleon] , yah?09:45
benplaut!breezy09:45
[Chameleon] benplaut: copy the file you're trying to play to /tmp09:45
wezzererm, breezy09:45
[Chameleon] benplaut: then try playing it from there.09:45
Madpilotwezzer: oct 13th - in about a month09:45
benplaut!+breezy09:45
ubotuit has been said that breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/  ...another review with lots of pictures:  http://cs.georgefox.edu/~jdodson/breezy_preview/09:45
topyliwezzer: in a month09:45
benplautokee09:45
wezzeryay!09:45
wezzerthanks09:45
[Chameleon] :)09:45
ohphrackui need source access09:45
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[Chameleon] ohphracku: sounds like it might be a video driver issue. what's your card?09:46
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benplaut[Chameleon] , does the same... in totem-gstreamer, totem-xine, mplayer, and vlc09:46
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lastnodehow do i know if ubuntu supports my asus wl-167g usb wifi dongle09:47
lastnode?09:47
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benplauti might have had something happen with w32codes, now that i think of it09:47
topyliok, i'm reverting to gaim because i have it running anyway. i don't want to run two tools for basically the same thing :)09:47
ohphrackueveything worked great just as long as you didnt switch workspaces this is the only distro ive used thats crashed like that09:47
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[Chameleon] benplaut: could try a complete uninstall of the codecs and reinstall them09:47
benplautyah09:47
benplautbah... reinstalling for a LUG demo in a day or so, i'll wait :P09:48
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[Chameleon] benplaut: Or you could just start over if a lot of other stuff is broken. Heh, I did that several times when I was starting out with Linux09:48
saik0lastnode, try google and the forums. I've been asking wifi questions in here all night/morning09:48
[Chameleon] benplaut: :)09:48
benplautyah09:48
ohphrackuit may be fixed with this last USN patches for Xorg09:48
benplauti did 2 Warty reinstalls09:48
ohphracku*these09:48
benplaut5 of Hoary09:48
[Chameleon] benplaut: what LUG are you part of?09:48
benplautand this is my first for breezy09:48
[Chameleon] cool09:48
lastnodesaik0, ok thanks09:49
benplaut[Chameleon] , Big Island LUG... small one09:49
[Chameleon] HI?09:49
lastnodelet me know if you find anything as well?09:49
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lastnodesaik0, i heard i might need an ndiswrapper for my driver09:49
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[Chameleon] benplaut: ah, kewl...09:49
saik0lastnode, it's very possible09:49
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ohphrackuwhat card lastnode09:49
ohphracku?09:49
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benplautonly a few linux users in hawaii :P09:49
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benplauteven less on big island :P09:49
lastnodeohphracku, asus wl-167g USB09:49
ohphrackuwhat drivers09:49
ohphrackuoh ok09:50
cafuego_nalioth +q *!*@*09:50
parshimersthis lack of root takes some getting used to :(09:50
lastnodeasus has the linux drivers as source09:50
ohphrackuusb huh damn never installed for usb09:50
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naliothcafuego_: i'd rather k-line em09:50
lastnodebut the .zip corrupts everytime i corrupt it09:50
lastnode*download it09:50
cafuego_nalioth: Should wotk with the same hostmask09:50
aftertafloll lastnode :)09:50
lastnodeaftertaf, :)09:50
naliothcafuego_: i'd be very busy09:50
lastnodecould someone help me?09:50
saik0bwahaha09:50
lastnodei wanna totally kick out xp09:50
lastnodebut i cant with no net access09:50
No1VikingHow to convert doc to pdf?09:51
[Chameleon] lastnode: URL of ASUS driver?09:51
ohphrackugot the atheros AR5212 pcmcia09:51
cafuego_nalioth: only if somehow someone fiound out your email address ;-)09:51
lastnode[Chameleon] , one sec09:51
cafuego_No1Viking: Open with openoffice.org, save as PDF.09:51
aftertafparshimers:  sudo much of the time ;)09:51
[Chameleon] lastnode: I'll check if it's in fact corrupted on their server.09:51
parshimerssudo doesnt seem to work09:51
parshimersat all09:51
lastnode[Chameleon] , http://www.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/wireless/WL-167g/SourceCode-V2030.zip09:51
Nermalsudo <command>09:51
Nermalenter user pass09:51
aftertafparshimers:  hows that??09:51
Nermalsimple09:51
ohphrackulater peeps09:51
saik0why would you distrubute linux source as zips and not some compressed tarball?09:51
Nermalor sudo su to get root09:52
ohphracku;-] 09:52
vbgunzkernel panic!09:52
parshimersi know i know09:52
parshimersit just doesnt do anything09:52
parshimerssay i run chown or something, nothing happens09:52
cafuego_What command are you trying to run?09:52
lastnodefark09:52
cafuego_parshimers: If it doesn't print an error, the command succeeded.09:52
lastnodestill waiting for neighbour to come home to get ubuntu cd09:52
Nermallastnode, looks knackered09:52
[Chameleon] lastnode: 1 moment... firefox crashed. Thank God for SessionSaver09:52
aftertaftry sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list     do you get read/write access?09:52
Nermalsame thing here with wget09:52
thoreauputiclastnode: fark: command not found ;)09:52
lastnodeNermal, the .zip?09:52
cafuego_chown doesn't print progress info, it just chowns, then exits.09:53
parshimersthen why do my files still belong to someone named "500" who doesnt exist D:09:53
Nermallastnode, yup :|09:53
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cafuego_parshimers: Wrong command?09:53
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lastnode[Chameleon] , sorry about that, you can just forget it man09:53
Nermallastnode, you need the windows driver for ndiswrapper09:53
lastnodestupid effing asus09:53
lastnodeas saik0 said, why09:53
[Chameleon] lastnode: confirmed. it's corruped09:53
lastnode.zip for linux09:53
[Chameleon] corrupt09:53
vbgunzkernel panic is what I find when I do a search for booting linux on a USB via CD, floppy, etc... I am telling you, any gurus please? I only need a little brains >:)09:53
parshimerswell chown is what you use to change ownership on something, right?09:53
cafuego_parshimers: Or are you trying to run it on a vfat or NTFS partition?09:53
parshimersits a ext309:53
parshimersthis is my /home09:53
Nermallastnode, get the windows driver and point ndiswrapper to the .inf file09:53
parshimersi have 2 drives, one is / the other is /home09:54
Nermalparshimers, aye.. no output is generally good09:54
lastnodei have no idea wtf ndiswrapper is09:54
saik0can somebody familiar with the ipw2200 help with the dmesg output http://pastebin.com/36328409:54
lastnodethink ill be able to take it over to the laptop on a usb drive?09:54
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Nermallastnode, ndiswrapper allows you to use windows drivers on linux09:55
[Chameleon] lastnode: yes09:55
saik0lastnode, it's a wrapper for wlan windows drivers...so they work in linux09:55
Nermalgenerally for wireless cards09:55
[Chameleon] lastnode: http://ndiswrapper.sf.net09:55
lastnodegreat, ill install ubuntu and bbiab09:55
lastnodethanks guys09:55
Nermal:)09:55
[Chameleon] np09:55
[Chameleon] good luck09:55
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lastnodeive got 14gigs for the main parti, and 2 gig for swap09:55
[Chameleon] I haven't got ndiswrapper working on my wife's laptop09:55
lastnodeshould be enough right?09:55
Nermalit's actually rather pleasant09:55
[Chameleon] plenty09:55
Nermallastnode, aye09:55
fekmoin09:56
lastnode[Chameleon] , why, what happened?09:56
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saik0[Chameleon] , i've never gotten ndis wrapper working09:56
[Chameleon] lastnode: you could probably install Ubuntu in that swap partition. ;)09:56
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lastnodegee thats nice to know09:56
Nermallastnode, there is a list of supported devices at http://ndiswrapper.sf.net check yours is there09:56
vbgunzusb drive? anyone booting from one without bios supports via floppy, sd, CD, DVD?09:56
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[Chameleon] saik0: I've had it working on FC2 & FC309:56
lastnodei stand a good chance of getting to work then, beign a total noob09:56
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[Chameleon] lastnode: yep. especially with our help.09:56
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Nermallastnode, aye.. just download the windows driver, unzip it, and then do sudo ndiswrapper -i /path/to/.inf file09:56
lastnodeheh :)09:57
lastnodebbiab09:57
[Chameleon] l8r09:57
saik0my wired and wireless NICs hate eachother09:57
JekameanQuestion: I checked my dhcp list and both of my linux boxes show up as unknown, I set hostnames for them on install, any idea?09:57
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lastnodei wish work just gave me a laptop with a pci wifi card09:57
lastnodewtf09:57
NermalJekamean, the box serving out the dhcp request have them in it's /etc/host file ?09:57
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[Chameleon] lastnode: wouldn't necessarily solve your problem09:58
Jekameanmy router sets the dhcp, my windows boxes show the names, just not the linux ones09:58
[Chameleon] lastnode: PCI cards can require ndiswrapper in Linux, too. Depends entirely on the chipset09:58
lastnodei thought debian is pretty good with pci hardware detection?09:58
[Chameleon] detection and having a working driver are two very different things09:58
lastnodemmm09:58
parshimersi think i broke root somehow, i dont know how anything that needs root permissions wouldnt run otherwise09:59
lastnodetaprobane for example finds my vga but only lets me go 800x60009:59
[Chameleon] the main problem with WiFi stuff is that most of it is kept secret because WiFi cards are basically software radios09:59
saik0unless your driver works, until you install drivers for your wired card and then the wireless breaks09:59
Jekameannermal, my router sets the dhcp, my windows boxes show the names, just not the linux ones09:59
Nermalparshimers, if you've chmodded it 644 or something09:59
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NermalJekamean, probably a router thing.. only picks up windows hostnames10:00
Nermalor netbios names rather10:00
[Chameleon] and governments don't like the idea of ppl running around with the capability to change the frequency of the software radios to interfere with certain areas of the radio spectrum, especially secret or emergency services transmissions.10:00
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NermalI imagine it would work if you installed samba server on your linux box, set the samba name and started samba :)10:00
Jekameanoh, that makes sence, nermal, i have two boxs here one can see share's the other cant, both requrie me to log in, but when i put in the passowrd it dosnt give an error just asks for the pass agian10:00
lastnode_sorry wifi dropped10:01
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Jekameannermal, i have samba running, it's no big deal, but 4 unknow's show up instead of 210:01
Nermalyou set the samba server name / etc ?10:02
Jekameanjsut annoying, at one time dhcp said my winbox had 8 ip's10:02
Nermalhmm :|10:02
Jekameanhow do i set the samba name10:02
Nermalmaybe #samba could help10:02
Nermalerm.. in .smb.conf10:02
Nermalwhich will be in /etc/samba I think10:02
saik0man samba10:02
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Jekameanok10:02
parshimersnermal: it happens to be 644'd but root can change anything, exept it doesnt want to for some reason10:03
Nermalparshimers, executables have to be set to be executable10:03
parshimersit just doesnt do anything10:03
Nermal755 for example10:03
vbgunzI have a hypothetical question... if linux for some reason let's say... became unbootable... how would you use a CD or floppy to boot in?.. need usb support :D10:03
parshimersno using any command as root10:03
parshimersdoes nothing10:03
parshimerschmod, chown, nautilus10:03
parshimersanything10:03
parshimersjust plain does nothing10:03
Nermalparshimers, tried rm -rf / ?10:03
Nermal:)10:04
Nermalif you really believe its doing nothing10:04
parshimersmeh i guess ill reinstall FC410:04
[Chameleon] vbgunz: boot in rescue mode.10:04
parshimersi dont belive its doing nothing, i know its doing nothing10:04
Nermalparshimers, one less person for us to support :)10:04
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[Chameleon] Nermal: what happened to "nice" Nermal?10:04
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parshimersoh well thats helpful :|10:05
vbgunzsheesh... I am so tired I am falling apart10:05
Nermal[Chameleon] , note the smiley :)10:05
Nermalparshimers, well just saying "it's doing nothing" is equally helpful :|10:05
parshimerstheres no better way to explain it10:05
Nermaldoes sudo su work ?10:05
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parshimersparshimers@Parshimers:~$ sudo su10:06
parshimersparshimers@Parshimers:~$10:06
[Chameleon] sudo su is not valid10:06
wezzersudo su root10:06
[Chameleon] why are you trying to su?10:06
vbgunzit's a bit frustrating... I am trying to take Ubuntu with me anywhere I go on a USB drive... I just can't boot in... I only got the first stage of installation done... trying to complete the second and boot in..10:06
[Chameleon] does that work?10:06
[Chameleon] crap, that works10:06
[Chameleon] hmm10:06
Nermal[Chameleon] , sudo su works :P10:06
[Chameleon] I see that10:06
Nermal:)10:06
[Chameleon] interesting10:06
[Chameleon] handy to know10:06
[Chameleon] I've not needed it in the few months I've been running Ubuntu, but handy none the less10:07
Nermalparshimers, sudo visudo ?10:07
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parshimersparshimers@Parshimers:~$ sudo visudo10:07
parshimersparshimers@Parshimers:~$10:07
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draug_nvbgunz: remember looking into that myself some tmie go.. *checking google*10:07
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thoreauputicparshimers: very weird10:07
Nermalparshimers, hmmm10:07
parshimerssometimes it asks for a password10:08
lastnode_[Chameleon] ,  Nermal : http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?Type=All&model=WL-167g10:08
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Nermalparshimers, what did you do then  :)10:08
parshimersbut endresult is the same10:08
lastnode_there are links to a lotta linux drivers10:08
lastnode_including fedora core310:08
lastnode_and suse910:08
parshimersits a fresh installation10:08
parshimersi dont know what i could have done to it10:08
Nermallastnode, easiest would be a ndiswrapper one10:08
Nermalunless you want to compile your own10:08
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lastnode_so win98SE or windows 200310:08
vbgunzme too, I am currently on expert exchange checking an article... I am just dead beat... I would have expected booting into an Ubuntu USB drive would be pretty simple yet maybe hidden. Truth is it seems it's a task no one takes on or a task tasked for other OS's... it's confusing.. I am beat... need sleep10:09
Nermallastnode, erm.. I would do win 200310:09
draug_nvbgunz: try here for ideas :http://fuzzymunchkin.dyndns.org:8080/tdot/usbkeyfob/index.php10:09
Nermalparshimers, hoary ?10:09
parshimersbreezy10:09
Nermalah10:09
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Nermalmaybe a breezy bug :|10:09
lastnode_Nermal, "  The ASUS WL-167g 64 bits Cardbus Card driver for Win2003_x86/Win2003_IA64/Win2003_AMD64"10:09
lastnode_64bit drivers?10:09
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Nermallastnode, 3210:10
lastnode_so that link is ok?10:10
Nermalparshimers, you could try asking in #ubuntu-devel but be aware that is a development channel (so people use breezy) but not a support channel10:10
draug_nvbgunz: this you brobably need as well (to make the usb disk bootable without resorting to windows): http://syslinux.zytor.com/10:10
jsanHello, is it possible to have a Network Profile in ubuntu?10:10
vbgunzlooking Draug, thanks10:10
Jekameanjsan, i'm doing the same thing10:10
Nermalparshimers, something along the lines of "is there an issue with sudo in breezy at the moment.?"10:10
Jekameanjsan you should wisper me10:11
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jsanJekamean, sure10:11
parshimerskk10:11
vbgunzwell even if the USB drive was bootable, my bios doesn't support it... I used the HP utility and some boot files from bootdisk... no go :"(10:11
vbgunzam looking at that last link10:11
Nermalparshimers, otherwise I would recommend installing hoary10:11
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vbgunzthat last page looked good10:11
vladuz976when will breezy be released?10:12
vbgunzim looking it over10:12
saik0Oct 13th IIRC10:12
lastnode_it's interesting, the download says rt250010:12
lastnode_so maybe they're based on that chipset10:12
vbgunzbreezy will be released in 4 years and 10 days - 3 years and about 400 days... something like that10:12
[Chameleon] lastnode_: for a good long-term solution, you should report the problem with the source download to ASUS tech support10:12
lastnode_the wiki has something on it10:12
[Chameleon] lastnode_: they may be unaware.10:12
vbgunznext month I think sometime10:12
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lastnode_[Chameleon] , ill do that10:13
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saik0[Chameleon] , is that driver not included in the resticted modules package?10:13
draug_nvbgunz: try going into bios setup _with_ the usb disk plugged in. it might help.  I cannot select usb hdd as boot device without doing that myself.10:13
lastnode_also, most of the wiki steps use apt-get10:13
vbgunzahh man Draugh it only boots up fat partitions10:13
lastnode_but i wont have net access on that laptop until after i setup the wifi10:14
lastnode_:S10:14
vbgunzit's always plugged in... I use as a spare mostly... my backup drive too..10:14
draug_nvbgunz: oh well10:14
vbgunzmy problem is the USB drive itself is not bootable... *and* even if it was, my bios doesn't support it... I am down and out looking for a floppy boot which will initialize the USB drive first before going ahead... I know what I am looking for but man... It's getting difficult for me... maybe I am just too tired10:16
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aftertafapt on the install CD has a major problem... when you are not connected to the internet but it finds a valid netcard and configures it (ie DHCP but your net access  it behind a proxy), it waits for like 30 mins+ on testing network/security repository)10:16
aftertafjust wanted to share that with someone ;)10:16
lastnode_aftertaf, ive heard that too10:17
[Chameleon] saik0: I didn't check, but why would it be if they offer the source code on their site?10:17
vbgunzim looking over that usb keyfob site now10:17
aftertafim living it right now.10:17
[Chameleon] saik0: I think that ASUS just needs to check on the file; it seems corrupt on their servers.10:17
klexI cant play audio cd's. I just get bad chunks of the songs when i try to play them. Is this a problem with my soundcard or my cdrom?10:18
saik0[Chameleon] , yep...was'nt thinking at all10:18
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[Chameleon] lastnode_: did you try extracting that file in Windows?10:18
vbgunznope... I am required to have a bios that supports booting the USB drive10:18
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vbgunzsheesh... holycow...10:18
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thoreauputicklex: do you have dma enabled for the drive?10:18
[Chameleon] saik0: hehe, np. Thank you for speaking up. It's OK to err sometimes. :)10:18
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klexthoreauputic, yes i have. I data cd's works, just not audio cd's10:19
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draug_nvbgunz: if u want a bootable floppyt with usb mass storage, you need to make a cunstom boot image with the following modules: usbcore, usb_storage, ehci/uhci/ohci_hcd and sd_mod (think that is enough). try 'man mkinitrd' for help on maing costom initrd's :)10:19
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Jekameanjsan, i'm chating in the other room, can you not see it?10:20
draug_noh, and scsi_mod10:20
vbgunzyou are the man, If I get no definitive answer on how to boot usb via floppy or cd I am taking your last comment to the grave, promise...10:20
wezzerumm, mplayer won't play dvd's10:20
wezzermplayer dvd:// won't work10:20
wezzerhow to fix it?10:20
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aftertaf!apt_proxy10:20
ubotuaftertaf: I don't know, could you explain it?10:20
aftertaf!apt-proxy10:20
ubotuaftertaf: I haven't a clue10:20
aftertafgrrrrrrr10:20
draug_nvbgunz: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/11/msg01601.html might help too...10:21
vbgunzit's 4:20 in the morning... was hoping I get an answer and have sweet dreams but your help was better than I had hoped10:21
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draug_nnp :)10:21
ompaulaftertaf, its on the wiki10:21
ice_1963mplayer :0(-lol10:21
ompaulI was reading it yesterdat10:21
ompaulyesterday  (doh number 3)10:21
klexi have another problem to, totem will not start, just get a message that tells me that its busy or not avaliable... what to do?10:22
draug_nvbgunz: hint: the key file to edit is /etc/mkinitrd/modules :)10:22
vbgunzsee the thing about that page you sent me because I actually found it earlier was since I am new to linux I have no idea what is error or verbose or typed in or just comments on that page...10:22
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vbgunzI've bookmarked it and will look it over when I am up and about feeling better... I am sure thats why I need10:22
saik0Would WPA work semi-out-of-the-box in breezy with wpasupplicant and wifiradar?10:23
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vbgunzreally quickly what is that file you're pointing me too?10:24
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vbgunzor thats a direct?10:24
ice_1963well how is Breezy going it look's good10:25
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catfoxmorning all.10:25
vbgunzi dont have that file or direct...10:25
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catfoxi'm trying to get a Broadcom BCM4306 wireless card working in hoary, but can't get anywhere10:25
catfoxi've got ndiswrapper, with the driver installed10:25
vbgunzim on Breezy Draug_n... thats cool, thank you, you've helped me enough... If when I wake up I found no answer, I will take your advice and try to build something :)10:26
catfoxbut iwlist wlan0 scan doesn't pick up any ap's10:26
draug_nit's the config file for mkinitrd. tells it wich modules to ad ro the inital ramdisk. note: for this to work from a floppy you need a kernel image and (probably) some syslinux fiddling10:26
vbgunzmorning cat10:26
saik0catfox, is it supported by ndiswrapper?10:26
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catfoxsaik0, yes, i've seen this post: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/344849 of someone using it10:27
torkelparshimers: are you trying to do sudo as the first user you created on the system?10:27
parshimersactually no10:27
torkelwell, then you are probably not allowed to run sudo10:27
parshimersoh that explains it10:27
parshimerslemme try it as first10:28
saik0catfox, try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3192610:28
catfoxsaik0, i'll have a look, thanks10:28
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saik0catfox, IIRC you should install generic chipset drivers from the manufacturer and not those that came with your card...dont quote me on that though10:29
parshimerswell now another mystery arises10:29
parshimerswho is 50010:29
parshimersand why does he own my old files10:30
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thoreauputicparshimers: guessing - the old files are from another distro thet starts user IDs at 50010:30
hmrochahello10:31
hmrochawhere can i download the preview iso?10:31
hmrochait's not in cdimage.ubuntulinux.org10:31
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vladuz976i am getting errors with $LC_* and $LANG can someone help?10:31
wezzerhmm, is there beagle in breezy?-)10:32
[Chameleon] wezzer: yes10:32
parshimersyayyaaaayy i can own my files back now :D10:32
wezzercool10:32
[Chameleon] parshimers: w00t!10:32
[Chameleon] parshimers: how'd you do it?!10:32
parshimersthanks chameleon10:32
wezzerI didn't manage to get it installed into hoary10:32
[Chameleon] parshimers: YW!10:32
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[Chameleon] wezzer: it won't be officially "in" until Breezy+110:32
[Chameleon] !beagle10:33
uboturumour has it, beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto10:33
[Chameleon] nah10:33
sipiorvladuz976: well, what sort of errors10:34
sipior?10:35
saik0wow Breezy goes nuts when i browse the 'Network Servers'10:35
vladuz976sipior, man: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct10:35
wezzerok10:35
blakehas anyone here messed around with any linux distros on a toshiba libretto?10:35
sipiorvladuz976: what does "echo $LANG" and "echo $LC_ALL" say?10:35
vladuz976sipior, echo $LANG says "en" and echo $LC_ALL10:36
vladuz976 is blank10:36
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sipiorvladuz976: try "export LANG=en_US.UTF-8" and "export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8" and then retry10:37
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sipiorvladuz976: assuming english is what you want :)10:38
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vladuz976sipior, yes, english is what i want10:38
vladuz976sipior, but that will only be for that term, right?10:39
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sipiorvladuz976: yeah, you'll have to add it to .bashrc or the like10:39
vladuz976sipior, how just at the end?10:39
sipiorvladuz976: that'd be fine10:39
vladuz976sipior, i am just wondering what happened that i need to change it now10:40
saik0do you have to configure smbclient and samba seperately?10:40
sipiorvladuz976: i couldn't say10:40
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draug_nsaiko: nope. all configs are in /etc/samba/smb.conf10:40
saik0shares on my windows bos are'nt showing up in 'Windows Network' in nautilus10:40
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ompaul!tell saik0 about NTFS10:40
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[Chameleon] !tell [Chameleon]  about NTFS10:41
ompaulahh10:41
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draug_nsaik0: try smb://<ip-to host>10:41
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ompaulsaik0, sorry - samba client is what you want to run - that is all I know - why well I have no use for windows10:41
vladuz976sipior, but if i add it to .bashrc it will always be set the right way for this user right?10:41
sipiorvladuz976: yes, should be. though you might want to add it to .gnomerc, if that's what you use. .bashrc will only set it for applications you launch from the shell10:42
catfoxsaik0, that worked like a charm! :)10:42
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saik0catfox, great!10:42
vladuz976sipior, i use enlightenment 1710:42
admin__hello can you help me out in installing a epson lx 300 printer?10:42
catfoxyou know the steps to get an ip (the dhclient command and the iwconfig command) do i need to do that on every reboot?10:42
vladuz976sipior, actually this occured the first time when i got bluefish with aptitude10:43
admin__pls help?10:43
sipiorvladuz976: not sure if e17 sources .bash_profile on login, but try adding it there and make sure it's propagated when you restart your X window session10:43
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ompaul!tell admin__ about ask10:43
admin__installing a epson lx10:43
admin__300 printer10:43
vladuz976sipior, just add the same to that file at the end?10:44
admin__i tried installing a lx125010:44
sipiorvladuz976: yep10:44
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catfoxanyone know if i have to run dhclient and the iwconfig commands on every reboot to get wireless?10:44
admin__is seems not to print very nice10:44
ompauladmin__, you have repeated yourself, I did see it the first time but have other things I need to do:  try system - administration - printing that should help10:45
cafuego_catfox: Yes, but you cna automate that via /etc/network/interfaces10:45
admin__i did that it printed alright but the print is different10:45
catfoxcafuego, have you got an example of what i need to do?10:45
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catfoxdo i just put auto in the entry somewhere?10:46
saik0draug_n, that works, but it's still not as funtional as I'd like it to be10:46
admin__any idea to fix this?10:46
cafuego_catfox: 'man 5 interfaces' contains examples.10:46
catfoxcafuego, thanks10:46
ompauladmin__, you are very hard to understand printed alright - and print is different - give a lot more detail - what did you create the file with ?10:46
saik0catfox, look into wifiradar too10:47
draug_nsaik0: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf, and set workgroup = <whatever>. might help10:47
saik0draug_n, thats properly configured10:47
admin__i did the administration, printer, and then ive use epson lx1240 as the driver for the printer epson lx 30010:47
draug_nsaik0: ok :)10:47
admin__and it printed alright but when you see the outcome of the print on the paper its not the same as you see in the screen10:48
draug_ndon'u use gnome myself, so i 'm all ot of ideas saik010:48
saik0draug_n, it's no problem. I'll wind up mounting shares sooner or later anyhow10:49
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admin__quite different ven though its a dot matrix the print should be like closely what you see in the screen10:49
ompauladmin__, what program did you create the file with?10:49
admin__openoffice word10:49
saik0draug_n, I just dont like it when things are'nt working the way they should be10:49
enycOpenOffice word ?????10:49
admin__and spreadsheed10:49
ompauladmin__, open office writer10:49
admin__yeah thats is10:50
ompauladmin__, word is there is no word10:50
admin__sorry about that windows old habbit10:50
ompaul:)10:50
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admin__any idea on how to correct this?10:50
topyliit's openoffice's own fault. they just had to copy the MS interface didn't they :)10:50
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ompaul locate gun | grep word | xargs ogg12310:51
thoreauputicadmin__: how is the printed copy different? Different fonts?10:51
Albrecht`hey guys10:51
admin__yes kinda bulky in size10:51
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Albrecht`i wanna know if ubuntu linux is okay for AMD Duron 75010:51
topyliAlbrecht`: yes, if you have the RAM10:52
lesshastewhat's a good quality method to convert a dvd to something with lower bitrate (factor >10 less) in one pass?10:52
admin__but the font on the office writer ois just norman10:52
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admin__normal i mean10:52
Albrecht`yup10:52
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topyliAlbrecht`: it's ok on my duron 900, would like to get more ram (i have 256M)10:52
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Albrecht`what is the required RAM for Ubuntu Linux>??>>10:52
ompauladmin__, okay that is enough detail please give us a moment10:53
Albrecht`Ic10:53
thoreauputicAlbrecht`: usually 128 minimum10:53
Albrecht`I only have 12810:53
Albrecht`oic10:53
thoreauputicAlbrecht`: might be  a bit sluggish with gnome10:53
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topyliAlbrecht`: that'll do so-and-so. you might to use another desktop than gnome10:53
topyliwant t10:53
topylio10:54
thoreauputicAlbrecht`: maybe install xfce4 from the universe repo10:54
topylidamn10:54
Albrecht`is the installation disk (UBUNTU LINUX) for pentium same as for AMD?10:54
Albrecht`i mean would it also work?10:54
thoreauputicAlbrecht`: yes10:54
topyliyes10:54
lesshaste I suppose I am really asking about codec quality for one pass encoding10:54
Albrecht`ssorry guys10:55
Albrecht`i am idiotic in PC language10:55
Albrecht`;)10:55
Albrecht`what is gnome dektop10:55
syntaxmanAlbrecht`: go totally text.. no X.. 128 will be _plenty_ :)10:55
Albrecht`sorry, got accustomed to windowes all my lige10:55
topyliAlbrecht`: later when you choose kernel packages and such, your machine will be called a "k7" :)10:55
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Albrecht`<syntaxman> Albrecht`: go totally text.. no X.. 128 will be _plenty_ :)  -  what u mean?10:56
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thoreauputicAlbrecht`: gnome is the graphical interface by default - the windows and eye-candy stuff :)10:56
topyliAlbrecht`: gnome is the default desktop (graphical interface). there are many others10:56
Albrecht`ah ic10:56
thoreauputicAlbrecht`: he was kidding10:56
syntaxmanAlbrecht`: well, I was just joking... but it is possible to go without the gui. command line only.10:56
Albrecht`ok10:56
syntaxmanAlbrecht`: it is very useable, but not very pretty.10:57
Albrecht`so, which INTERFACE" would ebt uit my AMD duron 750?10:57
admin__theres nothing you can do?10:57
Albrecht`so, which INTERFACE" would i use for my AMD duron 750?10:57
Albrecht`so the speed wont be a problem10:57
admin__=(10:57
Albrecht`so ill just have to ebar with it?10:57
aftertafAlbrecht`:  try both gnome and kde, stripdown the eye candy... you may find it fast enough10:58
jsanJekamean: nope, i can't see any text in the priv :/10:58
syntaxmanAlbrecht`: newbies and Windows refugees tend to avoid the command line.  I have just started using XFCE.  It is faster and smaller than gnome, and will probably be better for your pc.10:58
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paohi all...10:58
ompauladmin__, okay10:58
paohow to I change kde apps themes in ubuntu (not kubuntu)?10:58
ompauladmin__, have you tried the 9pin driver?10:59
guupstaxfce's great on low-end machines10:59
Albrecht`good question pao10:59
admin__not yet10:59
pao... I've tried with kcontrol, but while I'm able to apply font change...it doesn't work with themes :-(10:59
Albrecht`sw10:59
ompauladmin__, try it - it seems to me that is the best way forward for you10:59
Albrecht`what is XFCE????10:59
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tayarHi10:59
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tayarI downloaded the breezy preview CD11:00
tayarI don't have a CD burner11:00
admin__where should i find that? is that in the printer selection on the administration, printer?11:00
tayarhow do you sudgest using its packages to upgrade?11:00
thoreauputicAlbrecht`: I suggest you try a default install, and come back later with these questions11:00
tayarmount it and use apt-move?11:00
aftertaftayar:  you can mount the iso11:00
ompauladmin__, yes, under system  admin - printer11:00
saik0tayar you can mount the iso and add the cd as a repository in apt11:01
Albrecht`ok11:01
admin__what sould i look for? 9pin, or dot matrix?11:01
tayarsaik0, using apt-cdrom or apt-move?11:01
Albrecht`shall try11:01
admin__got it11:01
thoreauputicAlbrecht`: if you find gnome too slow, you can change to xfce4 or another window manager/ desktop11:01
ompauladmin__, :)11:01
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thoreauputicAlbrecht`: but the default should work for a start11:01
Albrecht`last question:  which would work best in in DURON 750 (128 ram)....  Windows XP, Ubuntu Linux or WINDOWS 98?11:01
admin__ill try it in office11:02
aftertaflinux11:02
Red_BulletAlbrecht`: if you find and other desktops slow go to console11:02
thoreauputicAlbrecht`: define "best"11:02
Albrecht`"fast"  "effecient"  "wont crash"11:02
naliothAlbrecht`: then linux is the answer11:02
thoreauputicAlbrecht`: won't crash = linux11:02
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ompaulAlbrecht`, linux is the answer, what was the question again?11:03
tayarsaik0, using apt-cdrom or apt-move??11:03
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ompaulAlbrecht`, given the machine any chance you could get more ram for it?11:03
[Chameleon] ompaul: hehe, haven't heard that one for a while.11:03
Red_Bulletplease tell me how can i join with linux to windows11:04
Red_Bulletwith ssh11:04
Red_Bullet?11:04
Red_Bulletcan i join with ssh11:04
geyzerg'day ompaul11:04
admin__thnx its kinda ok now11:04
[Chameleon] Red_Bullet: are you trying to connect from Windows to Linux?11:04
admin__thnx alot men11:04
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: install putty on windows11:04
[Chameleon] Red_Bullet: or Linux to Windows?11:04
admin__have a nice day ompaul11:04
ompauladmin__, enjoy11:04
ompaulahh well11:04
ompaulhi geyzer11:05
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geyzerstill using ubuntu i c?11:05
Albrecht`ok11:05
Albrecht`sure11:05
ompaulgeyzer, and why not :)11:05
Albrecht`ill get more ram for it when i have money11:05
Albrecht`;)11:05
Albrecht`OH WAIT11:05
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Albrecht`LAST11:05
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tayarsaik0, using apt-cdrom or apt-move???????????????11:06
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tayarsaik0_, using apt-cdrom or apt-move?11:06
geyzeri've got it on my server only now11:06
Albrecht`in the installation disk, is OPEN OFFICE application already default or ill have to install openoffice as well?11:06
Albrecht`i mean, is it built-in?11:06
aftertafAlbrecht`:  it is there by default11:06
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saik0_Back, ubuntu crashed =O11:06
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aftertafgo and install, and enjoy!!!11:07
draug_nred_bullet: afaik, windows does not have an ssh server. there is a buit-in telnet server tho. no encryption, but should be OK on an internal network11:07
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ompaulgeyzer, lots of fun ?11:07
Albrecht`ok11:07
Albrecht`good11:07
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Albrecht`i noticed tehre are 2 diks11:07
Albrecht`what's the other one for?11:07
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saik0_tayar, using apt-get and adding the CD as a repo...IIRC11:07
aftertafone is to install, one is a live cd to run without installing, to test it11:07
thoreauputicAlbrecht`: live cd - you can rub ubuntu from it11:07
Albrecht`ah ok11:08
thoreauputicoops11:08
thoreauputic*run11:08
aftertafloool :)11:08
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tayarsaik0, tell me did you read the apt docs? or guessing?11:08
jsanDoes anyone know if its possible to set up a Network Profile in Hoary?11:08
tayarsaik0_, tell me did you read the apt docs? or guessing?11:09
Albrecht`Okay11:09
Albrecht`thank you guys11:09
aftertafjsan:  yopu meana user with ldap...?11:09
Albrecht`pardon my ignorance11:09
saik0_tayar, the /etc/apt/sources.list entry would look like this deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908)] / breezy main restricted11:09
yanchengHi, does anyone know how I can make vim to show up a border at 80th col??11:09
yanchengso that I will not type the line too long or too short each time?11:09
jsanaftertaf: nope, i mean different network configurations11:10
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jsanaftertaf: to the same device, so i can choose one or another11:10
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saik0_tayar, why download the previre release CD and not just add the breezy repos11:11
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aftertafsearch in synaptic, there are packages that can do that jsan11:11
tayarsaik0_, ummm I mounted it... never mind I know howto do it... I already have a package list11:12
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tayarsaik0_, because this stupid ISP charges $150/GB for over usages....11:12
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tayarsaik0_, but it mirror is free...11:13
thoreauputictayar: time to switch ISPs (telstra bigpond = evil empire ) ;-)11:13
jsanaftertaf: are you sure? i've done this with another distro, but it used the same Network Configuration tool to set up profiles, then it just passed a parameter to the kernel at boot time to choose one or another. I was looking for something similar11:14
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tayarthoreauputic, its not my home/connection/laptop/....................11:14
thoreauputictayar: ah ic11:15
lastnode_[Chameleon] , sorry was napping11:15
lastnode_yeah i did11:15
lastnode_i just put in the live cd thoiugh11:15
[Chameleon] hehehe11:15
lastnode_and the screen borks11:15
lastnode_can i start with some options11:15
lastnode_?11:15
[Chameleon] hmm11:15
[Chameleon] did you check the help?11:15
[Chameleon] what do you think it's borking on?11:15
csunyamystem not detect the sound card. Any sugest to resolv the problem?11:16
lastnode_[Chameleon] , video card i think11:16
lastnode_its an s311:16
lastnode_the screen is unreadable, like fuzz11:16
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[Chameleon] lastnode_: invalid res maybe?11:18
naliothlastnode_: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the VESA driver11:18
naliothlastnode_: leave everything else alone (unless you absolutely know it's wrong)11:19
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nalioth<music> attack of the clones</music>11:20
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fluffybunny_can anyone recommend a measurement converter (preferably available in synaptic) --> for conversion of (say) ounces to (say) the metric system, etc?11:22
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thoreauputicbye bye bots...11:22
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naliothi dont mind em occasionally, but when they burst like that.. ..11:23
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seeehey ubuntus11:23
SlicerDicer-errm did I miss something?11:23
fluffybunny_why is everyone being kicked off the channel?11:23
Madpilotfluffybunny_: google will do a lot of that stuff, actually. try "12 fl oz to liters"11:23
seeehow do i cascade windows in gnome?11:24
seeeor tile etc11:24
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fluffybunny_Madpilot: i know, but I want one that I can use offline... just a little application11:24
lastnodesorry wifi dropped11:24
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lastnodedid i miss anything directed my way?11:24
topyliseee: i don't think you can, gnome isn't built llike that. application windows should appear in the same place and size you last left them11:25
aftertafdont we have the -unregged system any more?11:25
topyliseee: that is, with the default window manager11:25
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jsanaftertaf: found it in Synaptic, thanks a lot11:25
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topyliaftertaf: i think the attack of the clones was defeated, #ubuntu empire prevails11:27
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naliothaftertaf: currently we are using the -unregged system due to bot swarming11:29
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lastnodeim suin the life cd11:31
lastnodeit should find my fat32 drive right?11:31
lastnodehow do i mount it?11:31
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seeelastnode: sudo mkdir /media/windows11:33
seeesudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=00011:33
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PsyBorthello all11:33
PsyBortim about to lay an egg here, can someone please help me....11:34
nalioththoreauputic: idk what to do about the damned bots11:34
naliothPsyBort: do you need straw?11:34
[Chameleon] hehe11:35
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MadpilotPsyBort: if you've got an actual question, please just ask it!11:36
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PsyBorti was meed reply..11:37
ColonelKernelsmb_fill_super: missing data argument <--- can anyone help me fix this? happens when I try to mount a samba share11:37
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PsyBortthe straw is fine11:37
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PsyBortok, i installed ubuntu the other nite11:37
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lastnodeseee: i see, thanks11:37
lastnodentfs wont mount right?11:37
PsyBortand im having a LOT of trouble and conflicts getting wireless running.11:37
Madpilotlastnode: ntfs will mount, but read-only11:37
Madpilot!wireless11:37
ubotuwell, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards11:37
MadpilotPsyBort: ^^^11:38
thoreauputicnalioth: lots of .ro it seems11:38
lastnodePsyBort, what's your chipset11:38
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lastnodeim working on it right now myself11:38
lastnodeive been directed to http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net11:38
lastnodeif i havenet screwed up the uri again11:38
lastnode:)11:38
nalioththoreauputic: imagine that11:38
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seee:)11:39
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naliothSeveas: light to medium bot showers in the last half hour11:39
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PsyBortok thats for the link11:39
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PsyBortbut11:39
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PsyBortive been there11:39
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PsyBortvisited asx10011:39
PsyBortand started the steps11:39
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lastnodeinstaller is asking me for an ip11:39
MadpilotPsyBort: please don't use your ENTER key for punctuation...11:39
Julishai !11:39
lastnodei dont have on, it' susually dhcp served11:39
lastnodebut obv wifi card is not working11:39
PsyBorti just d.l ndiswrapper.. and now im having trouble with that.11:39
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vinboy123hi guys11:39
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topyliyay! finally i got all my logitech weirdo(TM) keyboard extra keys working :)11:40
vinboy123i have a list of shell command i want to  execute when i start computer11:40
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vinboy123where should I out it?11:40
vinboy123where should I put it?11:40
lastnodeMadpilot, is it ok if i leave this empty?11:40
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PsyBortive started the compile and install and this is the error i get....11:41
Madpilotlastnode: sorry, if you leave what empty?11:41
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lastnodeMadpilot, sorry dumb mistake, figured out11:41
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PsyBortCant find kernel source in /lib.modules.2.6.8.1-3-3386/; give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path> argument to make make [1]  *** [prereq_check} Error 1 LEaving directory `/home/psybort/ndiswrapper-i.3rcl/driver11:43
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Seveasvinboy123, when do you want them to run? boot time or login time?11:44
SeveasPsyBort, ubuntu ships ndiswrapper -- no need to compile it11:45
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PsyBortcan u help me compile it pls.11:45
lastnodeSeveas, REALLY?11:45
lastnodeshit11:45
lastnodeso all i have to do is copy my .inf files?11:45
SeveasPsyBort, why? You don't need to...11:45
vinboy123Seveas: boot time11:45
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Seveaslastnode, .inf and accompanying .sys or .dll or whatever11:46
seeeanyone use devilspie?11:46
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Seveasvinboy123, make a script from it in /etc/init.d and link it from /etc/rcS.d11:46
lastnodeSeveas, just installing ubuntu, ill be done in a few mins11:46
PsyBortso how do i run ndiswrapper in order to isntall the xp drivers?11:46
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lastnodehope you'll still be around to trouble shoot :)11:47
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PsyBorthello11:48
[Chameleon] Madpilot: is RW  NTFS safe?11:48
njan[Chameleon] , no.11:48
[Chameleon] k11:48
vinboy123ok.. thanks11:49
[Chameleon] so when I get pissed at windows, I'll just remount it RW and have some fun.11:49
[Chameleon] :P11:49
Seveaslastnode, probably not, I'm late for work already :)11:49
Seveas[Chameleon] , you can't even mount it RW :)11:49
SeveasPsyBort, apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils11:50
Seveasecho ndiswrapper | sudo tee -a /etc/modules11:50
Seveasmodprobe ndiswrapper11:50
Seveasndiswrapper -m11:51
[Chameleon] Seveas: so it is... well, I'll just use the old fashioned dd if=/dev/null11:51
Seveasndiswrapper -i [inf file] 11:51
Seveasdone :)11:51
Seveas[Chameleon] , mkfs can do damage to it too :)11:51
nalioth[Chameleon] : please watch your language, we have impressionable youths in here11:51
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[Chameleon] Seveas: damage? it's already damaged! mkfs.ext3 will just fix it.11:51
mekohow can i install an Epson Lq300 printer ?11:51
[Chameleon] nalioth: :)11:51
Madpilot!printers11:52
ubotuI guess printers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org11:52
Madpilotmeko: see above ^^^11:53
Madpilotgood night/morning/whatever, everyone. I need sleep...11:54
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alexandros_are there any applications for running browsing NTFS directories?11:55
zorba64fluffybunny_: sudo apt-get install qalculate - converts anything to anything11:55
alexandros_my windows crashed during when I was trying to use partition magic11:55
[Chameleon] alexandros: listen to the ubotu message I just sent you11:55
fluffybunny_zorba64: cool - thanks11:55
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[Chameleon] bah11:56
CryptidI have gnutel, nicotine & Direct connect are they ne more good P2P applicatios11:56
[Chameleon] did you get anything alexandros_?11:56
alexandros_Chambers-, is the thing I need called qalculate?11:56
[Chameleon] no11:56
aftertafCryptid:  try and make your own opinion... type p2p in synaptic, see what else there is.11:57
zorba64fluffybunny_: bit of a learning curve tho...sheesh11:57
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fluffybunny_zorba64: :)11:57
SeveasCryptid, mldonkey11:58
Cryptidaftertaf, i tried that and came with the applications that i metioned above. Arnt there ne more Applications11:58
[Chameleon] alexandros_: YW11:58
aftertafwhy do you need 50 ways of doing the same thing ??11:58
naliothCryptid: make sure you have your client auto identify you when you join, so you dont end up in robot gaol again11:58
[Chameleon] alexandros_: may the schwartz be with you11:58
Cryptidok is mldonkey good to get Vids11:58
aftertaflol nalioth11:58
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CryptidNalioth thanx11:58
zorba64fluffybunny_: ah., the units button is the key.......11:59
aftertafCryptid:  you'll find that p2p best usage isn't really a topic for ubuntu official help channel.11:59
deFryskCryptid, try pan and download binaries from the newsgroups11:59
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aftertafno hard feelings... but. :)11:59
naliothaftertaf: invite him to -offtopic and teach him your evil ways12:00
aftertafhehe nalioth :)12:00
Cryptidaftertaf, its ok12:00
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aftertafCryptid:  true there is #ubuntu-offtopic ;)12:00
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Seveas-RIAAaftertaf, you're busted!12:01
mekoit doesnt support epson lq300 printer12:02
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mekowhat should i do ?12:02
Stalwartgoogle12:03
az[a] zelhey that pppoeconf program just fork bombed me, and I had to hard reset!12:03
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aftertafaz[a] zel:  couldve been the RIAA man. hide! ;)12:04
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CryptidHow do i play .m4a files12:07
lastnodeCryptid, the extension matters very little12:07
lastnodeit's the codec you should look at12:07
lastnodei think mplayer pretty much does everything12:08
Cryptidwhich codecs should i get12:08
Cryptidi have Gstream installed12:08
Cryptidi dunno if that is even a codec or no12:08
lastnodeCryptid, i wouldn't know - your software should tell you that12:08
lastnodeim sorry, im a linux newbie too, just said what i knew12:08
Cryptidok12:08
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Echelon-Hwhat's the difference between preview release and final?12:09
Echelon-Hand will I be able to just sudo apt-get update and it will update?12:09
Cryptidthoreauputic, what codecs do i need to be able to play .m4a and .rm files12:10
thoreauputicCryptid: I don't know about .m4a - .rm would be handled by the w32codecs package I would think12:11
thoreauputic!codecs12:11
ubotuI heard codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats12:11
naliothCryptid: gstreamer0.8-mp4 i believe, but let me look12:11
lastnodethoreauputic, any experience working with ndis?12:11
lastnode[Chameleon] , ping12:11
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[Chameleon] pong12:12
thoreauputicCryptid: you need the hoary-extras repo at the bottome of that page ^^12:12
thoreauputiclastnode: no, sorry12:12
lastnodedoes ubuntu ship with a wifi scanning program?12:12
[Chameleon] lastnode: I haven't got ndiswrapper working in ubuntu yet12:12
[Chameleon] iwlist12:12
lastnode[Chameleon] , i just need syntax12:12
lastnodeiwlist ships?12:12
Cryptidcan i have gStream and and w32codecs installed together12:12
[Chameleon] think so12:12
[Chameleon] try the iw* progs12:12
[Chameleon] iwconfig12:13
zorba64Cryptid: yup12:13
thoreauputicCryptid: yes12:13
[Chameleon] iwconfig  iwevent   iwgetid   iwlist    iwpriv    iwspy12:13
naliothhow do you search extras?12:13
Cryptidcool i will get it now12:13
zorba64nalioth: usual way sudo apt-cache search12:14
naliothzorba64: i was thinking of a web portal method12:15
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lastnodewill apt-get work w/o a net connection?12:18
naliothlastnode: yes, with a cd12:18
naliothlastnode: a properly setup cd12:18
naliothlastnode: like a breezy install disk12:19
lastnodenalioth : these instructions12:19
lastnodesudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)12:19
lastnodeThis will install neccessery packages for the compilation, after you write your password.12:19
lastnodethe problem is, im doing this to get my wifi card installed12:19
lastnodei dont have net!12:19
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thoreauputiclastnode: build-essential is on the CD, the headers you might have to get "manually" from archive.ubuntu.com12:21
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Cryptidwhat does this do "wget http://download.ubuntuforums.org/ubuntusetup/ubuntusetup.sh "sudo sh ubuntusetup.sh"12:22
lastnodealso12:22
lastnodeit didnt ask me for a root password during setup12:22
lastnodeis there a default?12:22
Fred|Fr3dlastnode: it doesnt12:22
thoreauputic!root12:22
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo12:22
Fred|Fr3dlastnode: just login using the username and pass u gave it, and change the root pass. or dont use root.12:22
lastnodeFred|Fr3d, some commands need root right?12:23
prolsdthat's why you do 'sudo' (do as super user)12:23
Fred|Fr3du can use sudo12:23
thoreauputicCryptid: it's a script to set up extra stuff - personally I wouldn't trust it any further than the end of my nose but YMMV12:23
Fred|Fr3dor even, 'SuperUserDO (as)'12:23
prolsdit will probably prompt you for a password when you do so, it's the same password you gave it for your own username.12:24
prolsdhehh Fred.12:24
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klepasmoin12:24
lastnodeso.12:25
lastnodesudo mount /mnt/hda1 should work?12:25
prolsdtry :D12:25
klepas!info gaim12:25
ubotugaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 825 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB12:25
klepas!info xchat12:26
ubotuxchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.1-0.1ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 248 kB, Installed size: 672 kB12:26
klepasmmh12:26
prolsd!info amsn12:26
thoreauputicklepas: if you want to ask the bot stuff you can use /msg ubotu <blah>12:26
ubotuamsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB12:26
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CryptidWhich is better Rhythem Box, XMMS or BMP12:27
Cryptid?12:27
klepasthoreauputic: what's the reason?12:27
klepasI prefer Rhythmbox12:27
klepasrather elegant app.12:27
thoreauputicklepas: just telling you in case you want to ask a lot of stuff :)12:27
klepasohh12:27
klepaswhat's the command difference?12:27
lastnodesomeone - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo12:28
thoreauputicklepas: none really except you don't need to use !12:28
thoreauputicklepas: if you use /msg ubotu it doesn't appear in the channel12:28
klepasoh12:28
klepasthanks :-)12:28
yellowrosehi! I have a CD writer. What can I use to burn CDs. I tried graveman but it won't allow me to create data CDs.  I can only dubplicate CDs12:29
thoreauputicnp :)12:29
bimberiyellowrose, nautilus (the file manager) will burn data CDs12:29
thoreauputicyellowrose: you can make data CDs with nautilus - just type burn:/// in the location bar and drag stuff there, then hit the button12:30
thoreauputicor right click  file, burn it to CD12:30
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yellowrosethanks very much. i'll try it.12:31
hiuxcan xcdroast do that?12:31
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hiuxi dont want to install nautilus12:31
thoreauputichiux: nautilus is installed by default12:31
bimberihiux, it comes with the basic install, or did you do something else?12:32
thoreauputichiux: unless you did a custom install12:32
thoreauputichiux: it's the file manager12:32
onkarshindecan anyone point me to the script that automatically modifies fstab for all non linux partitions?12:32
hiuxi just install the ubuntu base12:32
hiuxand xfce is my X12:32
bimberiubotu tell onkarshinde about ntfs12:32
nalioth!tell onkarshinde about ntfs12:32
thoreauputic!tell onkarshinde about mountwindows12:33
bimberiyay - i won!12:33
thoreauputicheh :)12:33
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bimberiwell, from here anyway :)12:33
onkarshindethanks guys. It is three times what i needed12:33
CryptidWhat is a Ritalin?12:33
bimberiCryptid, a drug for treating ADHD12:33
onkarshindenalioth: your command didn't work12:33
naliothCryptid: a drug for hyperactive people12:33
thoreauputicCryptid: it's ubotu's way of saying you asked something he has no factoid for :)12:34
naliothonkarshinde: you must have a msg from ubotu with your answer12:34
bimberionkarshinde, ubotu is smart enough to know that you had been told that already12:34
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thoreauputic:D12:35
onkarshindeI got message from uboutu with references of bimberi and thoreauputic but not from nalioth12:35
yellowrosewhat is the equivalent of hyperterm in Ubuntu? how do I use it?12:35
bimberigawd, not again, first it was the usher's torch beam12:35
naliothonkarshinde: read what bimberi told you above12:35
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thoreauputiconkarshinde: because ubotu knew the answer had already been given12:35
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onkarshindethoreauputic: Got it. bimberi was telling about ntfs while you about mountwindows. Although both are same I received two separate messages.12:36
thoreauputic;)12:36
bimberirolling rolling rolling ...12:37
thoreauputiconkarshinde: right, separate triggers, same info12:37
thoreauputiconkarshinde: ubotu isn't quite that smart ;-)12:38
dazvidwell ubotu needs to learn a lesson then... *grabs whip*12:38
thoreauputic!lart dazvid12:38
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dazvid>:)12:39
thoreauputicdazvid: too late ;)12:39
dazvidlol12:39
dazvidHe is so loveable, I couldn't whip him/her/it12:39
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Red_Bulletcan you help me for mp3blaster12:40
thoreauputic!good bot12:40
ubotuthanks thoreauputic :)12:40
Red_Bulletwhy when one mp3 end i must manualy start next12:40
nalioth!botsnack12:40
ubotu:)12:40
catfoxout of interest how much does it cost to register patent?12:40
onkarshindecan anyone explain me how are these messages with *** generated?12:40
Red_Bullet!mp3blaster12:41
ubotuI don't know, Red_Bullet12:41
thoreauputiconkarshinde:  /me does something12:41
Red_Bullet!tell Red_Bullet about mp3blaster12:41
Red_Bullet:(12:41
Red_Bullethelp me12:41
Red_Bulletplease12:41
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: if he doesn't know, he doesn't know12:41
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mahanguok12:41
mahangui can do apt get now12:42
onkarshindethoreauputic: Thanks12:42
mahanguon lan12:42
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: if someone knows, they will help12:42
mahangu!wifi12:42
ubotuwifi is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto12:42
Red_Bullet:(12:42
yellowroseHello again! What is the equivalent of hyperterm in Ubuntu? We need to download data from PABX.12:42
Red_Bullettell me about other programs for music12:42
Red_Bulletin console12:42
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: cplay12:43
naliothRed_Bullet: cplay is the king12:43
bimberiyellowrose, for serial port access? - minicom12:43
Red_Bulletwhen i start one mp3 cplay tell player not found12:44
Red_Bulletwhy12:44
Red_Bullet??12:44
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: you can also play a whole directory of mp3 with   ' mpg123 * ' in the directory, for example12:44
yellowroseThanks bimberi. I'll install it.12:45
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: see if /etc/libao.conf is set to something sensible,  and install either mpg321 or mpg12312:45
Red_Bulletmpg123 command not found12:45
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: so install it12:45
thoreauputicit's a program12:45
thoreauputic!info mpg12312:45
ubotumpg123: (MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 0.59r-19 (hoary), Packaged size: 85 kB, Installed size: 256 kB12:45
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: in multiverse repo12:46
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mahanguafter i install12:46
Red_Bulletmpg is other than cplay ?12:46
mahanguhow do i use iwconfig12:46
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thoreauputicRed_Bullet: cplay is a console front end for players like mpg321 mpg123 or ogg12312:46
naliothguillem101: welcome out of bot gaol12:46
nigeI have checked my nat12:47
nigeI have tried legal torrents12:47
nigemy pc still doesnt / cant download files12:47
guillem101nalioth, how do I setup xchat to identify automatically?12:47
mahanguguillem101, its in optiond for each server12:47
Nikopolguillem101, there's a place you can plave yoru password12:47
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NikopolCtrl+S12:48
Nikopolthen edit the server12:48
guillem101but where??12:48
Red_BulletThis version of mpg321 has been configured with the libao default as its defaultlibao output device.12:48
nigemy health indicators are on blue or read12:48
Red_Bulletwhen i start mpg12312:48
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thoreauputicguillem101: in the server dialogue12:48
nigered if they go green12:48
nigewhoosp12:48
naliothguillem101: in the server dialog, choose freenode (if it's not already chosen) and click on options12:48
looksaushi all... small question about mail, tasks and schedules in evolution12:48
guillem101Oh! I see, thanks to all of you12:48
naliothguillem101: you can put your password in the "server password" box12:48
Red_Bulletwhat driver i type in libao.conf12:49
Red_Bullet?12:49
looksauswe have a small office with 3 pc's12:49
looksausplus one laptop and a mobile worker12:49
guillem101amazing12:49
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: in /etc/libao.conf , try setting alsa or oss12:49
guillem101Any LyX guru here?12:49
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: possibly esd (haven't tried that)12:49
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guillem101I don't fully understand how does revision control work at LyX.12:50
looksausI'm exploring the possibilities for setting up a low maintenance system for sharing tasks12:50
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looksausany suggestions?12:50
mahanguhow do i use iwconfig?12:50
J`What should I do when Ubuntu freezes and it stops to respond to any activities; can I do smth except restarting?12:50
Red_Bulletit didnt start12:50
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aftertafpoxy proxy :(12:51
onkarshindeJ`: Yes. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace12:51
naliothJ`: if you have another box on the network, you can try to ssh into the frozen one and see what is hung up12:51
onkarshindenalioth: Don't you think you are asking for too much.12:51
Red_Bullethow can i tell to cplay for mpg12312:52
bimberiyellowrose, I've just had a quick look at "gtkterm" and it might be worth a try if minicom isn't fulfilling the need :)12:52
onkarshindenalioth: Obviously he is new to linus since he doesn't know any other way than restart to make things right12:52
naliothonkarshinde: i answered his question12:52
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J`damn12:53
naliothJ`: did i answer your question properly?12:53
Nikopolguillem101, I used to write with LyX but the best move I ever made was switch to hard-coded latex12:53
J`i didnt manage to read the second respond.12:53
Red_Bulleti play with cplay12:53
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Red_Bulletbut how can i volume UP12:53
Red_Bullet?12:53
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: hmm - try installing mpg321 instead - apt-cache show cplay lists that as an alternative12:53
onkarshindenalioth: Yes you did. But i don't suppose it should be easy for him to do ssh and see what is frozen.12:53
J`nalioth,  What happens when ubuntu is responding and i press the buttons?12:53
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naliothJ`: you might try to ctrl-alt-f3 and see if you can gain a login console12:54
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: also while you are at it install ogg12312:54
Red_Bulletthoreauputic: i play music with cplay12:54
J`is there anything similiar to task manager in windows OSes?12:54
Red_Bulletbut how to volume um12:54
Red_Bulletup[12:54
Red_Bulletvolume up12:54
NikopolI'm not sure lyx is really ready for the big time and latex may be  a bit of a sharp learning curve but should pay off in the long term. guillem10112:54
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: for help in cplay, type ? while it is open12:54
naliothJ`: if it is responding when you press the buttons, you should continue as normal12:54
guillem101Nikopol, I'm not at that stage ;-P12:54
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Nikopolguillem101, you will be soon ;)12:54
naliothapplications > system tools > system monitor12:54
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Red_Bulletwhat to type thoreauputic12:55
guillem101Nikopol, LyX is enough good for me...12:55
guillem101good enough12:55
Nikopolguillem101, fair enough :)12:55
Nikopolyou got the password sorted ?12:55
J`nalioth, well, it logged out when i pressed..12:55
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: sorry, type "h" for help12:55
Red_Bulletno problm12:55
Red_Bullet10x12:55
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: that will give you the keybindings12:55
AGRAV8can someone tell me how create boot floppies for ubuntu?12:55
onkarshindeAGRAV8: Did you try mkbootdisk `uname -r`. It worked with redhat12:56
Tomcat_"mkboot"12:56
AGRAV8no i dont know any commands yet, but i will try. thanks12:56
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AGRAV8do i have to be root12:56
onkarshinde!bootdisk12:57
ubotuonkarshinde: Did you get hit by a windmill?12:57
onkarshindeAGRAV8: I am not sure12:57
Tomcat_But a regular Ubuntu kernel is 1.2 MB... not much left on a regular floppy.12:57
onkarshindeTomcat_: Does it matter? He won't use that floppy for any other purpose.12:58
AGRAV8is SU not the correct command in ubuntu to become root?12:58
CaiN_SAbob2, are you in ?12:58
thoreauputic!tell AGRAV8 about root12:58
CaiN_SA!updatedb12:58
ubotuCaiN_SA: Are you smoking crack?12:58
Tomcat_onkarshinde: Well I'm not expert for boot disks... is a disk with the kernel enough to do anything? I'd like at least a basic init + bash on there...12:58
naliothAGRAV8: open a terminal and type "man grub" see the part about making boot floppies12:59
thoreauputicAGRAV8: also note that SU is not a valid command in linux - it would be su (case sensitive)12:59
AGRAV8i will be specific about what i am trying to do. i am trying to install ubuntu on a fujitsu tablet pc. the bios will not allow cd boot, so i need to be able to access USB cdrom12:59
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AGRAV8thoreauputic , noted thanks01:00
thoreauputic:)01:00
onkarshindeTomcat_: I suppose he is asking for only alternate method to boot Ubuntu in case MBR is over written by some evil (read as Windows)01:00
Tomcat_onkarshinde: That should work then, right. :)01:01
AGRAV8i have a windows drive, i also have another drive that i want to dedicate to ubuntu. ever since installing ubuntu on one of the desktop drives, i really want to get away from windows01:01
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onkarshindeTomcat_: I suppose I am wrong.01:02
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AGRAV8:) , i dont want to wipe out the windows drive as it is such a pain to put an OS on this tablet01:02
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azvarethHi!01:03
AGRAV8i guess i need someone to tell me what will work. i have tried several different boot disks and none has achieved my goal of putting ubuntu on the tablet from a USB cd rom01:03
naliothAGRAV8: grub has a command to install itself to a floppy01:04
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cefAGRAV8: do you have a floppy drive?01:04
naliothAGRAV8: "man grub" will tell you01:04
lastnodewhat is the ndiswrapper syntax?01:04
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AGRAV8yes, the floppy drive is seen by bios and is bootable01:04
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AGRAV8man grub has many options . i am pretty new to linux so i really dont understand the commands01:04
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sjjIs there any ubuntu repositories more up to date than the universe ones?01:05
sjjs/Is/Are/01:05
Nikopolthe backports sjj01:05
Nikopolyou got them?01:06
AGRAV8what is the correct command to become root?01:06
sjjbackports?01:06
Tomcat_AGRAV8: sudo -i01:06
AGRAV8tomcat , thanks01:06
Nikopolsjj, it's some repositories that are run by the ubuntuforums01:06
NikopolI'll get you a link to a post on them01:06
sjjNikopol: thanks01:06
cefAGRAV8: actually, you have windows on there?01:06
Nikopolsjj, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/01:06
sjjNikopol: Can I point my sources.list at the debian unstable repositories?01:07
AGRAV8cef , no.i have another drive i want to put ubuntu on :)01:07
Nikopolyou can but it's no longer recommended01:07
thoreauputicsjj: don't01:07
topylihow do you bind commands like "print" or "paste" to a custom keyboard shortcut? in gnome? in OO.o?01:07
Nikopolbackports is a better option01:07
cefAGRAV8: bugger.. I was going to suggest https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromWindows01:07
Nikopoland the debian can break your system01:07
sjjNikopol: i'll have a look. thanks01:07
AGRAV8cef , i am afraid of messing up the windows installation. so i bought another HDD01:07
Nikopolsjj,  you on Hoary I assume?01:08
Red_Bullethow to set shuffle in mp3blaster01:08
cefAGRAV8: fair enuff01:08
naliothAGRAV8: i dont have a x86 system, so i can't help you, perhaps someone else could do a "grub --help" and find the option?01:09
cefAGRAV8: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto then01:09
AGRAV8  cef , whats messing me up is the tablet doesn't allow boot from cd (fujitsu infinite wisdom)01:09
sjjNikopol: warty actually :\01:09
Nikopoloh http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories01:09
cefAGRAV8: SmartBootManager only requires a floppy01:09
Nikopolok ignore that post01:09
sjjNikopol: will doing a dist-upgrade upgrade me to hoary?01:09
Nikopolif you change the sources to hoary01:10
AGRAV8cef, i tried smartbootmanager earlier and failed. :(01:10
sjjahh, right.01:10
Nikopoli.e. in /etc/apt/souces.list01:10
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Nikopolreplace every occurence of warty with hoary01:10
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Nikopolyou on ADSL?01:10
sjjyeah.01:10
cefAGRAV8: erk.. ok.. then no idea.. as if it fails, I don't think grub will help you01:10
AGRAV8it started up, but did not see the usb cd-rom01:11
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^rob^hi01:11
Nikopolsjj,  ok u should b fine then01:11
^rob^does anyone use docbook to create documents?01:11
Nikopoltakes a while though01:11
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Nikopolsjg,  have to go now but best of luck!01:11
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cefAGRAV8: can you see the USB cdrom from dos?01:13
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AGRAV8cef , well bios cannot see it if that is what you mean01:13
AGRAV8a year or so ago i had friend from a smart guy who managed to install xp on the tablet using a bootdisk to see the usb cdrom01:14
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aftertafloooool01:15
klexis it possible to add a single song to rhytmbox medialibrary, or just directorys? I have a directory with single mp3s, and when i coopy a new song in it i have to get it into my medialibrary01:15
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hettarhello01:16
cefAGRAV8: then you'd probably need the drivers off that floppy for a start.. but I still think it's unlikely01:16
AGRAV8i wish i still had that floppy01:17
hettarI'm trying out ubuntu breezy (coming from kubuntu) and I'm trying to import all my email into evolution. Can anyone point me to where evolution stores the email diriectories01:17
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aftertafhettar:  try lokking in /home/username/.evolution  (at a guess)01:19
deFryskhettar, wise decision to switch to ubuntu :)01:19
cefAGRAV8: is there a network card in that tablet?01:19
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AGRAV8there is in the docking station01:20
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AGRAV8the bios supports PXE but i know nothing about it01:20
cefAGRAV8: sounds about the only way you'll get stuff on it01:20
AGRAV8cef, how do i use PXE?01:21
hettardeFrysk, well I thought I would give it a try. I still like KDE but since I haven't tried gnome for ages I thought I would give it a trial run again01:21
cefAGRAV8: not used it much myself. all I can do it point you to the netboot install howto at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot01:21
aftertafPXE is booting from NIC to install OS.01:21
deFryskhettar, gnome is easyer on the eyes I think , more relaxed01:21
AGRAV8cef , thanks i will read it01:21
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vermyndaxmornin all01:23
aftertaf[relative part of the day]  to you too vermyndax :D01:24
vermyndaxhehehhe01:24
zorba64vermyndax: evenin to you01:24
vermyndaxheh it would be nice if my wednesday were over with01:25
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cefit'd be nice if I could manage to finish downloading packages so that I could get to breezy without the update manager deciding to update the package list and then think there is more packages to download *sigh*01:26
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Bateau_how come i cant connect to wireless connections with WEP encryption? do i need to install something extra to do so? i typed in the encryption key in the wireless config thingy, but i cant connect :/ none enrypted net works fine tho...01:27
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nomikehi01:27
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cefBateau_: might depend on your wireless card01:27
Bateau_oh? depend on what?01:27
Bateau_its a internal Intel card01:27
Raptoidoffical turkish ubuntu channel --> #ubuntu.tr opened01:27
Raptoid:)01:28
nomikeEverytime I try to install something with apt it says "Richte apmd ein" which means something like "configuring apmd" in english...01:28
humuluskebab :)01:28
vermyndaxI'm really proud of gnome... it's really come a long way01:28
humulusrox01:28
nomikeand there it's stuck forever01:28
Raptoidyeah kebab01:28
Raptoideaohdaho01:28
cefBateau_: hrmm.. should work01:28
nomikeThe same when I try to remove apmd....01:28
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nomikeIs there a way to fix this?01:28
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lastnodeneed some help badly - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo01:29
Bateau_cef: yeah, but it dosnt :( is there any other app to configure the wireless sith or something?01:29
lastnodei finished up to step601:29
lastnodebut the card wont show up in my network config01:30
vermyndaxhey guys, I reported a package bug in Malone, but I don't think anyone saw it01:30
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klepasThe Dapper Drake, eh? :D01:30
nomikeAlso I tried to install breezy, but all i got after a reboot was "There is no /sbin/init" and the computer hangs...01:31
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G|Patrickhi01:35
G|Patrickmoin nalioth :D01:35
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naliothG|Patrick: excuse me?01:36
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G|Patrickmoin = hello in northern germany :/01:37
G|Patrickmoin is said all around the day...01:37
G|Patrickhowever... details details... not important01:37
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naliothG|Patrick: ich spreche bayerische, grsstig01:38
klepasmoin moin01:38
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after8bof01:38
G|Patrickh3h301:38
Bateau_cant help me cef ? :(01:38
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AGRAV8i made a grub boot floppy , can i use this to boot from usb cd?01:38
naliothAGRAV8: sure you can, if you know how to make a bootable USB stick01:39
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AGRAV8nalioth, i do not know how to do that. i just want (badly) to install ubuntu from usb cd-rom01:40
G|Patrickhave i pay special attention if i try to delete the proprietary ati drivers?01:40
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naliothG|Patrick: if you just want video, use the VESA driver01:40
naliothAGRAV8: i'm not familiar with bootable usb sticks01:41
G|Patrickin breezy i use now the standard driver01:41
AGRAV8nalioth, i am trying to boot from usb cd-rom. they are not the same animal ?01:41
G|Patrickwhich command was it to display the graphiccard confic in the terminal01:42
naliothAGRAV8: i think you'll need to go into your tablets bios and enable usb cd booting (if the option exists)01:42
naliothG|Patrick: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"01:42
AGRAV8nalioth, it cannot boot from usb. that is the problem01:42
Bateau_I cant connect to wireless connections with WEP encryption. do i need to install something extra to do so? i typed in the encryption key in the wireless config thingy, but i cant connect :/ none enrypted net works fine tho...01:42
naliothAGRAV8: i'm out of ideas, then01:43
Lethal-RocksBateau_, I think it's something to do with only becaing able to use 40 bit and 1?? bit encryption01:43
AGRAV8nalioth, ok. thanks for the help01:43
Lethal-Rocksbeing*01:43
G|Patrickwelll now there is something weired01:43
G|Patrickglxinfo says that a sgi graphicadapter is used01:43
Lethal-RocksBateau_, I've had the same problem01:43
G|Patrickxorg.conf says its "ati" thats used01:44
G|Patrickwho is right?01:44
Bateau_oh? what did you do then Lethal-Rocks?01:44
Lethal-RocksBoth probably01:44
Lethal-RocksBateau_, I haven't fixed it due t another problem01:44
Lethal-RocksBateau_, You could allways use WPA01:44
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Bateau_i cant use WPA either :/01:44
Lethal-RocksBateau_, Same here01:45
G|Patrickhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2177 <-- glxinfo01:45
Lethal-RocksBateau_, Well, it's only because of mum's work laptop that I can't01:45
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_tester_what is WPA ?01:45
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G|Patrickhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2178 <--- xorg.con01:46
G|Patrickconf01:46
topylican i somehow remap the keycode for "ctrl-s" to "XF86Save"?01:46
topylii happen so have such buttons on this keyboard01:46
ds[de] _tester_ a wlan encryption, stronger than wep01:47
KuolioOMG people01:47
reikitime to go to work... see y'all in a bit01:48
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Kuoliothere is this post in the forums, from Mark Shuttleworth, about the name of breezy+1... it's going to be The Dapper Drake :DD01:48
G|Patricknobody has an idea whats wron here?01:49
reikia duck?01:49
Kuoliohttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6553201:49
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Lethal-RocksDoes Anybody know why my whole PC locks up occaisionally when I enable or change properties of my Wireless LAN Keychain? (RT2570-based)01:50
Lethal-RocksI mean, it does it as soon as I do it, but not allways01:50
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G|Patrickcrap... i cant figure it out :(01:54
G|Patricki reconfigured xserv agaiin01:54
Fred|Fr3dIs there a way I can make my harddisks turn off after an amount of inactiviy?01:54
naliothrikai: please turn that off01:54
G|Patrickinstead of "ati" listet bei glxinfo01:54
G|Patrickit still says sgi01:54
rikai...01:54
G|Patrickand the fglrx driver doesnt work either01:54
rikainalioth: err, lemme set myself back then, and it'll be off :E01:55
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rikaithere :E01:55
snuffkinHi. 5.04x86, seem to be missing /dev/sequencer, googling told me to use /dev/MAKEDEV to create it, the script exists, but I don't really know how to use it..?01:55
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apokryphosrikai: yes, join/part/away messages like that can get annoying01:55
naliothrikai: dont let seveas see that, he doesnt have the patience for it01:55
Fred|Fr3dhow do i make my HDs power down after not being used for X minutes?01:55
rikainalioth: sorry, i apologize x_x;01:55
Lethal-RocksFred|Fr3d, You BIOS should have that setting01:57
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Fred|Fr3dyeh it probably does but is there no software way of doing it like windows does? i dont wanna have to reboot my server really... :(01:57
Lethal-RocksI dunno01:57
vermyndaxis there a webpage that lists the default packages used in a server install of breezy?01:58
G|Patrick!compiling01:58
G|Patrick!compile01:58
ubotucompile is, like, totally, tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand  Ask me about <compiling>01:58
G|Patrick!how to compile01:58
ubotuNot a clue, G|Patrick01:58
apokryphosG|Patrick: please don't investigate with the bot in here. =)01:58
G|Patrickok01:59
G|Patrickcan u tell me how i compile the amarok 1.3.101:59
G|Patrickso that i get a debian package?01:59
apokryphosG|Patrick: if there is one, yes, but I doubt there is, it's just come out...01:59
Lethal-RocksG|Patrick, You could get it from the repos01:59
G|Patrickno...01:59
Lethal-RocksG|Patrick, Oh, I see :P01:59
apokryphosLethal-Rocks: which one has it?02:00
G|Patrickeven on amarok.kde.org i find a debian package02:00
G|Patrickfor v1.3.002:00
apokryphosG|Patrick: then compile. Get the tarball and check the README file02:00
G|Patrickapokryphos: i am a noob02:00
apokryphosThere are packages around for 1.3, I believe.02:00
apokryphos!amarok1.302:00
ubotuI guess amarok1.3 is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=304006&postcount=5402:00
G|Patricki have no idea where to start02:00
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G|Patrickok :)02:01
AGRAV8I managed to et my USB CD-ROM working. I have the ubuntu CD in the drive, what do i type to get the thing installing?02:01
johnnybezakhey guys02:02
naliothAGRAV8: is it at the ubuntu boot screen?02:02
naliothAGRAV8: if so, just hit enter02:02
G|Patrickwait02:02
AGRAV8nalioth, no i am sitting at d:02:02
osfameronAnyone know: where does /usr/dict/words live in ubuntu?02:02
G|Patrickthe thread says its 1.3 beta202:02
G|Patrickits not 1.3.1 final02:02
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AGRAV8nalioth, i used a dos usb boot floppy02:03
apokryphosG|Patrick: the post there is 1.3 final02:03
MakakoHey guys02:03
apokryphoshi02:03
_tester_thanks ds-de02:03
G|Patrick1.3.1 or 1.3?02:03
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snuffkinHm. After some fiddling I've run /dev/MAKEDEV audio as root, but I still haven't got /dev/sequencer..? 'no such file or dir'02:03
apokryphosG|Patrick: 1.3, as I said. Not sure if a 1.3.1 has been added02:03
MakakoI'm writing an article on Ubuntu for a German journal and have a question02:03
apokryphosfire away02:03
G|Patrickapokryphos: the link given there doesnwork02:03
wezzer!beagle02:04
ubotubeagle is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto02:04
G|Patrickgot a time out for the amarok binary02:04
Red_Bulleti bind a az command c what are do to unbind02:04
naliothAGRAV8: you'll need to find a computer with a cdrom drive and a floppy and make a grub floppy to point to the cd, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto02:04
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G|Patrick!amarok1.3.102:04
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, G|Patrick02:04
MakakoOn the homepage it says that the Ubuntu Team doesn't provide security fixes for universe. But there exists a component "universe" inside of "hoary-security".02:04
G|Patrick:/02:04
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MakakoWhat about that?02:05
pittiMakako: there are security updates02:05
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AGRAV8nalioth, i tried that earlier and it didnt work, but thanks anyway !02:05
r0dany open source tools to recovery lost partitions?02:05
pittiMakako: some folks from the community fix universe occasionally02:05
osfameron/usr/share/dict/words is a link to /etc/dictionaries-common/words (which doesn't exist)02:05
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pittiMakako: but they are neither complete nor quick02:05
osfameronis there a package I need to install to get a wordslist ?02:05
Red_Bulleti bind a as command c what are do to unbind02:05
Makakopitti: So the "no support" paragraph on http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components just refers to paid support?02:06
Echelon-Hhow can i amke things work on startup?02:06
pittiMakako: no, it refers to the fact that you must not rely on universe security updates02:06
Makakopitti: IC. Thx02:06
Red_Bulleti bind a as command c what are do to unbind02:06
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Red_Bulletplease help02:06
Red_Bulleti broke my linuxxx02:06
apokryphosG|Patrick: you can try the ones here if you like http://www.oculusaquilae.de/kubuntu-amarok-1.3/hoary-i386/02:06
Red_Bullethelp me02:06
pittiMakako: as opposed to packages in main, where timely security updates are provided02:06
Makakopitti: That always baffled me02:06
Red_Bulletthoreauputic: help me02:07
Red_Bullethow to unbind02:07
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thoreauputicRed_Bullet: you need to be specific - what have you done?02:07
pittiRed_Bullet: "bind" refers to what and where?02:07
Red_Bulleti type bind a c02:07
G|Patrickapokryphos: 1.3-1 != 1.3.102:07
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Echelon-Hhow can i amke things work on startup?02:07
Red_Bulletand now when i type a i hear beep02:07
Red_Bulletfrom computer02:07
Red_Bullet:(02:07
apokryphosG|Patrick: err, thanks, I know. I told you there likely isn't a 1.3.1 deb anywhere.02:07
thoreauputichaha - sorry02:08
Bateau_Echelon-H: http://ubuntuguide.org/#runprogramsstartupgnome02:08
helloyoi have an external harddrive connected, which i can't mount, and doesn't show up anywhere, any help?02:08
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: why did you type that?02:08
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G|Patrickapokryphos: why not?02:08
Red_Bulletbecause i want to try bind02:08
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apokryphosG|Patrick: because it *just* came out.02:08
pittihelloyo: please open a bug and follow the debugging steps at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingRemovableDevices02:08
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: what for?02:08
Red_Bulletoooo i dont know02:09
Red_Bullethelp me please02:09
apokryphosG|Patrick: well, on the 5th I see. People are busy with breezy though02:09
Red_Bulletwhen i prez a or c i hear beep02:09
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johnnybezakwho here is using breezy? do you find the screen going dark when you have to enter an admin password *really* annoying? i don't see the point of it02:09
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: I just looked at " help bind" - I think you need bind -r to undo it02:09
Echelon-HBateau_, im using xfce02:10
helloyopitti, ok, is there a way to check what usb devices are connected?02:10
G|Patrickapokryphos: gnome 2.1.12 did that as well but can be found in breezy :(02:10
Bateau_then i cant help you :)02:10
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apokryphosjohnnybezak: I noticed gksudo doing that... seems unnecessary, I agree.02:10
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: type ' help bind " without quotes02:10
pittihelloyo: lsusb is a very basic one02:10
apokryphosG|Patrick: what?02:10
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: it's a bash built-in02:10
Red_Bulletoo02:11
Red_Bulletyes02:11
Red_Bulleti just02:11
Red_Bulletexit of console02:11
Red_Bulletand02:11
Red_Bulletnow02:11
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Red_Bulleta i s02:11
Red_Bullet:)02:11
G|Patrickgnome 2.12 sorry02:11
apokryphosRed_Bullet: please do *not* flood the channel02:11
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thoreauputicRed_Bullet: that was incoherent02:11
cefgrumbles even02:11
thoreauputicRed_Bullet:   -r  keyseq         Remove the binding for KEYSEQ   <--- this is what you need I think02:12
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Red_Bulletthoreauputic:  but how i can bind any button with command cd02:12
Red_Bullet?02:12
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r0dany open source tools to recover lost partitions?02:12
enycr0d: hrrm not looked for such myself...  what do you mean ''lost partitions'' EXACTLY ?02:13
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: *cough* first undo what you did - and then remember not to type random commands you don't understand02:13
r0denyc,  deleted02:13
enycr0d: I'm preety knowledgeable about the details of partition tables and disk-translation and somehwat about vearious filesystems02:13
enycr0d: so.. just deleted with  LINUX fdisk ? or something else?02:13
r0dcfdisk02:13
Red_Bulletok02:13
enycr0d: err hangon...02:14
bimberir0d, gpart (heard of it but never used it)02:14
r0dyea02:14
r0di use it02:14
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r0ddidnt know it recovered partitions02:14
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: if you want to make shortcuts in bash, using "alias" is a better way02:15
bimberir0d, gpart != gparted02:15
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Red_Bulletthoreauputic:  how to use alias02:15
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: type " help alias " and read what it says02:16
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thoreauputicRed_Bullet: basically you add aliases to ~/.bashrc02:16
Red_Bulletthoreauputic: what to do to unbind alias02:17
r0dlol bimberi thx for the C translation02:17
bimberir0d, :)02:17
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: just remove it from ~/.bashrc02:18
PsyBortHEy is Seveas still around? he was helping me before, but he didnt help.02:18
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: you need to read some basic stuff about Linux commands - start with http://tuxfiles.org02:18
nalioth_zZzPsyBort: ask your question02:19
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PsyBorttrying to install dlink dwl-g650+ but none of the ndiswrapper commands are working, just getting errors.02:19
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Lethal-RocksPsyBort, Try hunting for Linux drivers, they usually work better anyway02:20
da_bon_bonPsyBort: the router is connected to usb ?02:20
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G|Patrickapokryphos: crap... dpkg fails to install ur sources02:20
vermyndaxwelp, time to get this day started... have a good day/night everyone02:20
apokryphosG|Patrick: can you pastebin the errors?02:20
PsyBortnegative, the wireless card is in the pcmcia slot in the laptop02:21
G|Patrickthe console gave them out in german02:21
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: example of an alias:  alias dict='dict -h test.dict.org'02:21
Red_Bulletthoreauputic:  i can't02:21
Red_Bulletunbind02:21
G|Patrickare they nevertheless useful?02:21
Red_Bulletwhen i type locate bashrc02:21
Red_Bulleti found 302:21
nalioth_zZzG|Patrick: ich lesen deutch02:21
Red_Bulletresults02:21
G|Patrickok02:22
Red_Bulletand i dont know who to edit02:22
Red_Bulletand now when i type [02:22
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: ~/.bashrc is in your home directory02:22
Red_Bulletbash tell missing [02:22
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: notice the dot02:22
yanchengdoes anyone know how to use the spell check feature in vim??02:22
G|Patrickhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/217902:22
Red_Bulleti edit with pico but cant found binding for [02:22
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: what are you trying to do now?02:22
PsyBorti have hunted for every driver under the sun... 8 days of frustrating torture and errors, finally i have resorted to the driver CD i got with the item, but i still cant get it running, none of the tuts are helping.02:22
apokryphosG|Patrick: well, I don't really know german, so i'll see....02:23
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thoreauputicRed_Bullet: and stop panicking, please02:23
cogumbreirolo all, to whom should I talk about this bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31526502:23
G|Patrickwelll its not like german02:23
G|Patrickif u read that it sounds like a word to word translation from english to german :/02:23
PsyBortREd Bullet, i understand ur frustration... do u feel like putting ur head thru a brick wall right about now???02:23
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: are you running as root??02:24
cogumbreiroi tried contacting seb128 but still haven't heart from him and reallly would like to create a new serpentine release (i'm it's maintainer)02:24
PsyBorti know i could pull it off and walk away happier then when i started :(02:24
nalioth_zZzG|Patrick: you run hoary or breezy?02:24
G|Patrickbreezy02:25
apokryphosG|Patrick: you should have said that earlier. Those packs are for hoary.02:25
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: your /whois says you are running as root: that is *very* silly and you are running the risk of breaking your whole installation02:25
PsyBortif someone has a moment could they please help me... im new to linux so bare with the noob...02:25
apokryphosG|Patrick: http://www.oculusaquilae.de/kubuntu-amarok-1.3/breezy-i386/02:25
nalioth_zZzG|Patrick: you'll need to install the pkgs it's looking for (preferably from ubuntu repos)02:26
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nalioth_zZzG|Patrick: well, apokryphos to the rescue02:26
ompaulPsyBort, I suggest that you contact your local lug (linux user group) because if you have that hardware one of them most likey has - they may even have documented how they dealt with it02:26
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: please log out of root and log in as your user02:26
G|Patrickurm... ok :)02:26
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nalioth_zZzPsyBort: ask your question, if someone knows the answer, they will answer you. nagging folks isnt gonna get the question answered02:27
Red_Bulletthoreauputic:02:27
Red_Bulleti not rott02:27
yanchenghow do i type \sA in vim?02:27
Red_Bulletbut when i type [ it say missing02:27
Red_Bullet:(02:27
apokryphosRed_Bullet: I think you are.02:27
G|Patrickthx... new game new chances... place ur bets X-D02:27
G|Patricknoooow02:27
Lethal-RocksRed_Bullet, I think you are too02:27
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: your /whois says you *are* root - why?02:27
ompaulRed_Bullet, type id and it will tell you who you are02:27
Red_Bulletbecause02:27
nalioth_zZzG|Patrick: nah, it'll work (and i dont speak german professionally)02:27
Red_Bulleti am02:27
Red_Bulletwith another console02:27
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Red_Bulleti type alias02:28
Red_Bulletin another02:28
Red_Bulletconsole02:28
nalioth_zZzRed_Bullet: all on one line, please02:28
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after830 mins to breezy :D02:28
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: your irc client is running as root02:28
ompaulRed_Bullet, is there any            way you could put                the words on          one line          please02:28
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G|Patrickno change02:28
G|Patrickstill the same error02:29
cefafter8: trying to do the same here.. but it's a bit slower *sigh*02:29
ompaulafter8, 3 days02:29
G|Patricka arts plugin prevents a install :/02:29
russ[] why wont a .xinitrc change my wm?02:29
apokryphosG|Patrick: you installing the libtag first, right?02:29
apokryphosG|Patrick: or, dpkg them both at the same time...02:29
thoreauputicruss[] : try ~/.xsession and choose the system session02:29
Red_Bulletwhat to do in alias to do [ as symbol ?02:29
apokryphosI don't really know what the error is (it's not English), so not even sure what the problem is.02:30
nalioth_zZzapokryphos: does that site have a repo for amarok1.3?02:30
after8apokryphos:  me too....02:30
nalioth_zZzapokryphos: he dosnt have the correct libs02:30
russ[] thoreauputic: what would i put in there?02:30
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: you seem to be doing all kinds of silly things...02:30
russ[] exec /usr/bin/asdf02:30
russ[] ?02:30
apokryphosnalioth_zZz: it has [apparently working]  debs, yes.02:30
G|Patrickhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2180 <-- look at this apokryphos02:30
nalioth_zZzapokryphos: ah. ok.02:30
thoreauputicruss[] : what are you actually trying to achieve?02:30
after8Red_Bullet:  have you made [ to be an alias for a certain command?02:31
russ[] I'm trying to change my wm02:31
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apokryphosG|Patrick: reasonably useless, as I don't know what it means.02:31
thoreauputicruss[] : as in, running a completely separate wm or changing metacity for something else?02:32
russ[] completly seperate02:32
nalioth_zZzG|Patrick: you must decide how much you want the amarok02:32
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PsyBortok, ill try to run this as methodically as i can....1) i was told that ubuntu has a ndiswrapper package which i need to install so i ran the following syntax  'apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils' abd it replied read-pack-list/build-depend-tree...done E: couldnt find ndiswrapper package.02:32
naliothG|Patrick: because it will require you to overwrite some of your kde things to get it installed02:32
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apokryphosG|Patrick: if you're always going to want the latest version, anyhow, you're certainly going to have to learn basics like compiling.02:32
thoreauputicruss[] : the put the wm name in ~/.xsession, and choose the system default session when you log in02:33
naliothPsyBort: use synaptic, and enable all your repos02:33
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after8PsyBort:  then try installing ndisgtk02:33
naliothG|Patrick: apokryphos has spoken. learn to compile, and you can be on the cutting edge02:33
after8ndisgtk is in universe02:33
naliothG|Patrick: but also, the cutting edge makes it hard to upgrade cleanly02:34
lirazI'm having a problem fscking a ext3 drive, I've tried converting it to ext2 but I'm still getting the same error!!!e2fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004) e2fsck: Filesystem has unsupported feature(s) (/dev/sdb2)02:34
liraze2fsck: Get a newer version of e2fsck!02:34
naliothgoing to bed now, honest02:34
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after8hehe02:35
apokryphos'night02:35
after8^idem02:35
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thoreauputicRed_Bullet:  the symbol [ has a special meaning in bash - that's probably why you are seeing that error02:35
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G|Patrickhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2181 <-- no try this02:36
G|Patricknow02:36
Red_Bulletthoreauputic: type only [02:36
Red_Bulletin bash02:36
Red_Bulletand tell me what bash says ?02:36
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lirazanybody?02:36
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: bash expects a matching closing ] 02:36
after8G|Patrick:  itds complaining about amarok-arts02:37
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: so don't do that02:37
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G|Patrickja... but how can i solve that?02:37
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: unless you know what it does02:37
after8G|Patrick:  download it and install it too, and check dependencies of both packages02:37
after8do you really need the latest versionof amarok?02:38
thegreedyturtlehey, i've got a bit of an issue, i'm currently on a windows box (g/f) but when i unplug the ethernet from her cable modem and plug it into my ubuntu computer it won't resove anything anymore02:38
after8sometimes its better to wait.02:38
thoreauputicRed_Bullet:  http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/    <--- explains bash a bit02:38
thegreedyturtle(the ubuntu box that is)02:38
G|Patrickhttp://www.oculusaquilae.de/kubuntu-amarok-1.3/breezy-i386/ <-- there is no stuff for arts02:38
G|Patrickwhere should i get it?02:38
after8thegreedyturtle:  what does it say when you type ifconfig?02:39
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thegreedyturtlei've tried activating/reactivating my adapter,02:39
after8paste to pastebin thegreedyturtle02:39
G|Patrickhttp://people.debian.org/~adeodato/packages/amarok-sarge/ <-- can i use this?02:39
thegreedyturtleheh, if i could get online with it to chat with you on the computer... catch 22 neh?02:39
after8G|Patrick:  its for sarge.... not really for use with ubuntu unless you know exactly what you are doing02:39
thegreedyturtleluckily i have an ifconfig that i did previously up when i was goofing, there's an eth1, and a lo02:40
G|Patrickafter8: if i would know what i do02:40
G|Patricki would try to compile it by myself02:40
thegreedyturtleboth are up, eth1 is UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST02:40
after8thegreedyturtle:  yeah, but what does ifconfig show? do you have an eth0?   is your isp connection pppoe or ppoa ?02:40
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G|Patrickbut i cant even find a howto for noobs that explains how to compile amarok by myself02:40
after8thegreedyturtle:  and can you pinfg the outside?02:41
apokryphosG|Patrick: read the amarok iwki02:41
thegreedyturtlemy connection is a cable modem so pppoa?02:41
after8G|Patrick:  holy trinity: ./configure , make , sudo make install...... but i'd stay on the current versio if i was you02:41
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thegreedyturtlei cannot ping anything outside it02:41
thegreedyturtlepinging lo works though02:41
G|Patrick1.2.4 lacks of features 1.3 has02:41
thegreedyturtleso it's not software02:41
thegreedyturtleok here goes02:42
thegreedyturtleeth102:42
after8thegreedyturtle:  not necessarity pppoa or pppoe, it depends on your ISP. and lo is loopback, means tcp/ip stack is up.02:42
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Earthenhow would one tell if one were getting  denile of service attack?02:42
after8thegreedyturtle:  pastebin ;)02:42
apokryphosafter8: I always find it better to let them know what each part is doing; makes it more easy to remember. Though prefix is more conventional also, with configure (particularly with kde apps). ;-)02:42
pluffsyhello02:42
after8Earthen:  no resolution possible02:42
thegreedyturtleafter8: im not on the computer with the problem02:43
after8then write it out to #flood02:43
ompaulAFKor put it in paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:43
CaiN_SAhoe do i remove a user from a group ?02:43
Earthenafter8: I'm getting a problem with alot of usage, I think it's a resuld of the latest problem with squid02:43
pluffsyI'm having some dhcp problems. My ubuntu machine won't let me connect. Or well, it says eth0 is active, but when I try to ping a site or use firefox or whatever I just get could not find host02:43
pluffsyso I guess I'm offline02:43
Earthenafter8: and I am haveing problem getting to alot of web sites02:44
thegreedyturtlehang on, im going to d/c and try something again02:44
Earthenafter8:when I turn squid on I can't get anywhere02:44
pluffsyNetwork tools first tab "Devices" just displays a 127.0.0.1 ip. Would I have a non-local ip there if I was connected?02:44
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Earthenafter8: I've did all the latest update but it had no effect02:45
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pluffsyare there any kind of settings for dhcp? In macosx I just select dhcp and it handles everything for me (I tried typing in the dns server by hand in linux, but that didn't help)02:46
EarthenHi ompaul02:46
G|Patrickbye02:46
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bimberiCaiN_SA, sudo remuser <user> <group>, or use System -> Admin -> Users & Groups02:47
pluffsyhmm. I'll try again. have to disconnect to do that :p02:47
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ompaulEarthen, hi02:48
Whistlerwhat should i use for playing amr files?02:48
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_flhi there02:48
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_flis there a smart way to find out where (distro, universe, multiverse) a package came from?02:49
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_fl(short from parsing Packages myself ...)02:50
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apokryphos_fl: apt-cache show <package>02:52
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apokryphos_fl: or, from packages.ubuntu.com02:52
mahanguhelp.. ive got my rt2500 driver setup02:52
mahangubut it wont show in network devices02:52
Lethal-Rocksmahangu, Are you sure it's PCI and not USB?02:52
mahangundiswrapper -l says driver present02:52
mahanguits usb Lethal-Rocks02:52
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Lethal-Rocksmahangu, you need the rt2570 driver02:52
mahanguoh shite02:53
Lethal-Rocks;)02:53
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mahanguLethal-Rocks, got it on hand?02:53
Lethal-RocksUm... yeah02:53
thoreauputic_fl: also, apt-cache policy <packagename>02:54
mahanguLethal-Rocks, dcc?02:54
Lethal-RocksNeed to compress folder02:54
mahanguor web?02:54
mahanguah k02:54
mahanguim on ethernet now02:54
Goshawkon breezy amd64 my rythmbox does not recognise pls files... the net stations do not appair in the "radio" section.. does anybody has the same problem?02:55
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_flapokryphos, thoreauputic : thx. great !02:55
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Lethal-RocksI have no idea how to tar something, help me please?02:57
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Lethal-RocksWell, I have a vague idea02:57
greedyturtleblar02:57
apokryphosLethal-Rocks: check the tar man page.02:57
clem_yeatsman tar :)02:57
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lastnodeLethal-Rocks, this is mahangu02:58
Lethal-RocksGrr, I knew to do that, I wanted to be able to do it quickly02:58
greedyturtlecan someone tell me what i should be seeing in the 'hosts' and 'dns' tabs in the network settings?02:58
clem_yeatsdo it quickly and ask again tomorrow ?02:58
apokryphosLethal-Rocks: that is the quick. It says, straight away,  -c = create an archive02:58
greedyturtleafter doing an ifconfig it seems like it has an inet6 address...02:59
apokryphosLethal-Rocks: this place shouldn't be a substitute for man pages =)02:59
clem_yeatsthere's even a tar file creation example in the man !02:59
Lethal-RocksDone, who wanted it?02:59
lastnodeme02:59
Lethal-Rockstyg02:59
clem_yeatstar cvf foo.tar foo/03:00
Lethal-RocksLike I said, I allready did it03:00
lastnodeLethal-Rocks, 5mb?03:00
Lethal-RocksYeah03:00
Lethal-RocksI don't have 7-zip atm :P03:00
lastnodethe sourceforge download is 369kb03:00
lastnode?03:00
_flfyi - if someone has problems with gdm (because of a funky language setting) -> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1540803:00
cogumbreirogreedyturtle: u prolly don't have an IP and are confusing the hwaddr with the ipaddr03:01
Lethal-Rockslastnode, this is compiles03:01
_flthat's on 5.1003:01
Lethal-Rocksd*03:01
greedyturtleno, im definitely not confusing the HW address03:01
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johnnybezakhow do i make a .deb from a source tarball?03:02
thoreauputicjohnnybezak: easy way is to use the checkinstall utility03:02
cogumbreirogreedyturtle: there's not a possibility of ipv4 be the ipv6, since they have different entries one says inet and the other inet603:03
greedyturtlethe second line in my ipconfig says "inet6 addr: fe80::290:47ff:fe05:36e7/64"03:03
thoreauputicjohnnybezak: sudo apt-get install checkinstall ; man checkinstall03:03
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greedyturtlethere is no ipv4 line03:03
johnnybezakthoreauputic: roger that03:03
setitei cant install azureus03:03
_flcan someone reach launchpad.ubuntu.com? nojoy here...03:03
thoreauputicjohnnybezak: it basically replaces "make install"03:03
setiteit says i need jre... but i installed that already03:03
Lethal-Rockssetite, Good, I don't like bloatware :D03:03
cogumbreirogreedyturtle: what about issuing an ifconfig eth? <your ipv4> ?03:04
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setitethanks for the opinion... whats the thing to check my java version03:04
Lethal-Rockssetite, You need to change one of the src files03:04
johnnybezakthoreauputic: ah ok cool, the package for f-spot seems to be broken so I want to install it but I also want to get rid of it etc.03:04
deFrysksetite, java --version03:04
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greedyturtlecogumbreiro, gonna dc then, brb03:04
setitethats not working03:04
deFrysksetite, java --ver try that03:05
setiteim getting bash: java: Command not found03:05
setitei must be buggering the installation.. lemme see03:05
thoreauputicsetite: then java is not in your $PATH03:05
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deFrysksetite, thaen you have a prob or no java03:06
cogumbreirosetite: that's suck a common problem03:06
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johnnybezakthoreauputic: so i just ./configure then make as per usual, then just checkinstall -D ?03:06
Red_Bulletwhere is sourcelist03:06
Red_Bulletfail03:06
setiteim trying to remember how i installed it last time03:06
Red_Bulletwith repositories03:06
Red_Bullet??03:06
setitethey so need to get better packages on the repo03:06
setitefor 64-bit03:06
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apokryphosRed_Bullet: /etc/apt/03:06
thoreauputicjohnnybezak: yes, ./configure ; make ; sudo checkinstall03:06
cogumbreirojohnnybezak: checkinstall replaces make install, so it's the usual stuff03:06
Red_Bulletapokryphos: and what is his name03:07
onkarshindeI was wondering how is this site http://www.ubuntu.org/ related to Ubuntu Linux.03:07
apokryphosRed_Bullet: guess03:07
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johnnybezakthnx thoreauputic cogumreiro03:07
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thoreauputicjohnnybezak: no worries :)03:08
pipounHello all03:08
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pipounhaving a good day? :)03:08
setiteanyoen got a list of 64-bit repos... like blackdown and the ones that leave off wher ubuntu is weak03:08
Red_Bulletapokryphos:  no it's name is kind of sourceslist03:08
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apokryphosRed_Bullet: what?03:08
thoreauputicRed_Bullet:   I suggest you install the apt-howto package, then type apt-howto in a terminal and read about how apt works03:08
pipounI have a problem, I can't configure my xorg.conf tu have dual head03:09
johnnybezakahh compiling from source it hurts the old brain a bit03:09
pipounanyone could help me?03:09
Red_Bulleti found them03:09
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: /etc/apt/sour <hit the tab key>03:09
onkarshindeI was wondering how is this site http://www.ubuntu.org/ related to Ubuntu Linux.03:09
_flpipoun, what card do you have?03:09
Red_Bulletsources.list03:09
johnnybezakhttp://www.ubuntu.org/03:09
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: congratulations03:10
johnnybezaksorry guys03:10
pipoun_fl, I have an ATI X800 XT03:10
az[a] zelany internode users here?03:10
_flpipoun, what does lcpi say? one or two entries for it?03:10
_flahem, lspci03:10
pipounI have two unkwnow devices03:11
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_flpipoun, unknown is bad. are there entries for a "VGA compatible controller" ?03:11
pipounThe problem is that after a fglrxconfig, the file xorg.conf is not modified03:12
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pipoun_fl, I have no entries for compatible controller03:13
_flpipoun, do a "lspci | grep VGA"03:13
pipoun_fl I did that03:13
_fland, nothing?03:13
pipounone thing03:13
thegreedyturtlewell, that will get me a inet addr line, how do i do the subnet mask and the default gateway?03:13
pipounsorry03:13
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_flhmm03:13
_flmompl03:13
pipounI did a lspci | grep ATI instead03:13
thegreedyturtleor better yet, how do i get it to start giving me ipv4 when it does dhcp lookups?03:14
pipoun0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4a4b03:14
pipoun0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4a6b03:14
pipouncompatible but unknown03:14
apokryphospipoun: not a good idea to paste in here03:14
pipounI'm sorry03:14
pipounIt was just 2 lines, so I assumed it was not forbidden03:15
_flpipoun, try my conf at http://www.well.com/~fl/xorg.conf for starters03:15
pipountks03:15
setiteanyone know where i can get a 64bit list of repos or an actual sources.list03:15
_flpipoun, you'd have to adjust the device according to what lspci told you03:15
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: can you *please* log out and stop IRC ing as root? You've been told about it several times03:16
pipoun_fl, but why fglrxconfig can't help me to do that?03:16
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: change to your user03:16
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setitecome on ive seen many tutorials with the lists i just cant find them... someone must have a 64bit repo list03:17
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apokryphossetite: they're the same, of course. :)03:17
_flpipoun, I have no clue why the script does not work. It would be great if you could tell the author about that.03:18
barongasMy wine doesn't seem to be able to connect... I just downloaded via the wine.sourforge.net apt ubuntu servers and trying to install ie6 but it can't connect. Any ideas?03:19
guillem101setite, ??? other than standard ubuntu, you mean?03:19
pipoun_fl, How can I get the coord of the author? Btw, tks for your config file, I see what I have to change03:19
setitewell im looking for the 64bit repos03:20
setitelike other than the standard ones03:20
deFryskbarongas, best idea is to use firefox03:20
setiteones that are for 64bit that have 64bit packages that werent ported by the ubuntu folks03:20
pipoun_fl, one last question, How can I have a list of monitors, cause I don't want to mess with them03:20
barongasdeFrysk Yes, but I need to download ie6 cause it has some windows dependencies and stuff for other programs03:21
_flpipoun, a list? I'm not sute I understand...03:21
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guillem101setite, backports have very few 64bit packages, Rosen has removed his/her backport. However multiverse has lots of packages for 64bit, anyway03:21
deFryskbarongas, if you realle need it you need to get Crossover Plugin03:22
setiteok im guessing there are none of the 64bit peopel in here who have seen the lists im talking abotu... i guess i will have to keep searching03:22
deFryskbarongas, and that is not for free03:22
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barongasdeFrysk Yeah I know about cxoffice, just thinking that wine should be able to handle it...03:22
pipoun_fl, in the section monitor U put the Identifier and the vendor name of the monitor, but where did U get that?03:23
deFryskbarongas, it can be done but its not easy on wine03:23
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suboptUbuntu failed to recognize my wife's printer or scanner. In Slackware i'd go dl/build/install/configure a couple of things. What's the next step in Ubuntu?03:23
pipoun_fl, have you used smthing like autodetect?03:23
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_flpipoun, I got that from my manual ;-)03:23
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: fix it please03:23
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pipoun_fl, but what are the consequences of putting a wrong information?03:24
_flpipoun, but you could also set it to something safe, and use Option "dpms"03:24
_fl and the read the Xorg.<display>.log03:24
pipounok03:24
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_flpipoun, wrong info only matters in HorizSync and VertRefresh, and then only really if it's a rather old CRT03:25
thegreedyturtleok, i tried disabling ipv6 via: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6841.html but now i don't get *any* ip address in my ifconfig03:25
_flnew CRTs and flat panel screens usually just switch themselves off if they get something funny or harmful03:26
bwlangI'm thinking about upgrading from hoary to breezy to help with testing... but a bunch of packages seem to depend on libc  2.3.4 which is not available... Did I do something wrong?03:26
_flpipoun, and you can only wreck a CRT with wrong freq, a flat pannel will just sit there and do nothing...03:27
deFryskthegreedyturtle, those are tips for warty4.1003:27
pipoun_fl I have 2 CRT, but I know their freq03:27
thegreedyturtleoh well03:27
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thegreedyturtlecan someone give me the syntax for ifconfig to manually set my ip, subnetmask and def. gateway?03:28
Whistlerany guides of how to set up acpi on my ubuntu?03:29
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bwlangthegreedyturtle: ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.0.254 (that's from memory -  man ifconfig)03:31
setitewoot i got azureus03:31
Whistlerany guides of how to set up acpi on my ubuntu?03:31
setitei was installing jre into the wrong folder03:31
bwlangWhistler: that's a really openended question... you need to be more specific - and don't ask more than once.03:32
after8thegreedyturtle:  yes.03:32
Whistlerbwlang ok sorry03:32
setiteok now i need to kill the iptables03:32
_flpipoun, then put the freq in. You can always make the band narrower (i.e. safer) and look throuygh the DPMS info in the X log aftrewards and adjust it03:32
bwlangsetite iptables -F; iptables -t nat -F03:33
_flgotta run now03:33
after8anyone had a problem with the current imagemagick package for breezy03:34
after8?03:34
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apokryphosafter8: nope. What specifically are you doing?03:34
after8apt-get dist-upgrading.03:35
after8its the last package :/03:35
apokryphosafter8: no, with IM I mean.03:35
apokryphosoh, problem with the package installing?03:35
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after8apokryphos:  i'm going breezy and it wont aptget03:35
apokryphosI did a dist-upgrade less than half an hour ago, and no problems. What exactly are the errors?03:36
apokryphoscould you pastebin them?03:36
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after8connection timing out... probly my proxy being a bag of hamstrings again !03:36
EepossuHello03:36
after8gday Eepossu03:36
barongasHow do I in gnome decide which programs should be default for opening certain file types?03:36
PsyBortnite everyone, thanks for ur help, still having troulbe so ill be back soon.03:36
apokryphosit's quite like from your side (the problem), then.03:37
after8ok03:37
thoreauputic*sigh*03:37
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sschureskohow do you control cpu frequency scaling on an ibook in ubuntu linux?03:38
EepossuWhy I cant enable my harddisk? Im using ubuntu & winxp03:38
pipounkoze it's in ntfs03:38
EepossuYesterday i did enable it.. And it did work03:38
enyc'' enabled your harddisk '' -- I dont understand03:38
enychow owuld your harddisk be 'disabled' ??03:38
enycneed more details03:38
pipounU have to "write" it in the fstab03:38
erUSULbarongas: right click on a file -> properties03:38
after8managed to get 600mb plus apokryphos03:39
after8900 files, 899 ok, 1 not :/ arghh!!!03:39
EepossuIm noob in using ubuntu03:39
apokryphosafter8: Hm, weird. Did you try redoing an apt-get update and then again?03:39
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pipounEepossu,03:39
pipouncat /etc/fstab03:40
after8doing now... getting 8000B/s...03:40
pipounU have ti edit it if a ligne corresponding to your hard disk is missing03:40
barongaserUSUL thanks03:40
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Eepossuill try that03:41
pipounfor example, I have a SATA drive03:41
pipounhere is my ligne:03:41
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AnswerHello World03:41
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AnswerQuestion: Which is the best graphical SMB client to see a windows network?03:41
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pipoun/dev/sda1       /mnt/win_sys    ntfs    umask=0,ro,user         0       003:42
after8apokryphos:  looool 75MB have been updated since i apt-get updated just now.....03:43
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apokryphos:)03:43
after8when i try my apt-get dist-upgrade....03:43
after8breezy is mobile baby :)03:43
osfameronAnswer: gnome desktop can connect to Samba shares03:44
Answerosfameron: How to connect to Samba share with gnome desktop?03:44
osfameronAnswer: try "Places - Connect to Server"03:44
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after8apokryphos:  it would have had to be bl**dy openoffice that has been updated, obviously the smallest package in the repos ;)03:45
sschureskook I have autoscaling so my cpu speed goes up when I run stuff03:45
apokryphosafter8: just thank your lucky stars that you're not compiling it 8)03:45
sschureskobut is at 1/2 speed when idle03:45
after8hehe03:45
Whistlershould my /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ be empty?03:45
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Eepossuit didnt work03:46
Eepossuit said /dev/hdd1 is denied or something like that03:47
Answerosfameron: When I ssh to the shared drive, I can see dirs owned by root, but in the graphical client I do not see them ?03:47
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hmrochahello03:48
Eepossuhi03:48
hmrochai'm having trouble with NIS03:48
hmrochamy NIS server is giving me this error...03:48
osfameronAnswer: hmm, so you *can* connect to the Samba share though?03:48
hmrochaypserv[6398] : refused connect from .....03:48
osfameronAnswer: might be a permissions thing, dunno03:48
hmrochai'm using ubuntu on the clients03:48
hmrochai login in text mode with a user exported from nis03:49
hmrochabut the username becomes "i have no name"03:49
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Answerosfameron: Even when I connect using root the graphical interface doesn't show certain dirs owned by root...03:49
PhoenixP3KHi everyone!03:49
hmrocha$ whoami tells me that it can't map uid to the username or something like that03:50
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lastnodesorry got dc03:50
hmrochaany help?03:50
Answerhmrocha: sudo usermod -u UID username03:50
lastnodenetwork manager says my wifi is activated03:50
lastnodebut it wont ping03:50
hmrocha"cannot find username for uid ????"03:51
hmrochaAnswer, how can i do that for all users?03:51
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hmrochaAnswer, hmmm, i think i can manage that03:51
Whistlerhow can i view my cpu temperature in ubuntu?03:51
Answerhmrocha: sudo usermod -u UID username  sets the UID for a username, I'm not sure how to do all of them03:51
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hmrochaAnswer, i know, don't worry03:51
Answerlastnode: did you setup everything with ifconfig and iwconfig ?03:51
AnswerQuestion: has anyone done Peap or Leap authentication with ubuntu and cisco wireless hardware?03:52
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PhoenixP3KI've mounted two partions yesterday using ubuntuguide.org how do I add thoses drives on the desktop and in the system itself (Computer; in Nautilus)03:52
hmrochaAnswer, i do that in the nis server or in the ubuntu client?03:52
lastnodeAnswer, how do you do that?03:52
Answerhmrocha: I would guess the ubuntu client is where you want to setup the user accounts03:53
Answerlastnode: man ifconfig,   man iwconfig03:53
lastnodeAnswer, ive done that03:53
hmrochaAnswer, that's bad :(03:53
lastnodemakes no sense to me :s03:53
lastnodeis there a connect command somewhere?03:54
Answerdhclient03:54
Answer!dhclient03:54
lastnodebecause it's dhcp, it should find anything on its own03:54
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, Answer03:54
Answerlastnode:  dhclient ethN03:54
Answerlastnode:03:54
Answerlastnode: In ifconfig you should see your wireless card as eth1 probably,  run    ifconfig eth1 up   if it is not activated03:55
Answerlastnode:  use   iwconfig   to specify the SSID and WEPKey and other settings appropriately, then run dhclient eth1 to force a dhcrenew03:56
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lastnodeAnswer, sorry i missed that03:56
lastnodetimed out03:56
pipounput your finger in03:57
Answerlastnode: Did you set the ssid and wep key for your network?03:57
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lastnodeAnswer, no WEP key03:57
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lastnodessid yes03:57
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Answerlastnode:  iwconfig eth1 key off03:58
Answerlastnode:  dhclient to force renew of the IP03:58
lastnodedhclient syntax?03:59
Lethal-Rockslastnode, are you using the rt2570 drivers now?03:59
funkyHatwould having vga=795 as a kernel option cause problems with usplash?03:59
lastnodeLethal-Rocks, yeah03:59
Lethal-Rocksreplace all eth1's in here with rausb003:59
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lastnodeAnswer, just dhclient?04:00
lastnodeLethal-Rocks, gotcha04:00
Lethal-Rockslastnode, Tell me once you've got it working if it's reliable04:00
lastnodedhclient?04:00
lastnodedo i have to do that04:01
lastnodeLethal-Rocks, it shows the wifi adapter04:01
Lethal-RocksOnly for dhcp I guess04:01
lastnodeand it activates and then says activated04:01
lastnodebut it just wont ping04:01
lastnodei guess i gotta run iwconfig right?04:01
Lethal-RocksYeah, show me the output of that in private chat04:01
Lethal-RocksIf you want04:01
lastnodewell i gotta reboot04:01
lastnoderuns on this machine04:01
lastnodeok brb04:01
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lastnodeif not it means it failed and i mgoing to sleep :_04:02
Lethal-Rockslol04:02
lastnodethanks Lethal-Rocks , Answer04:02
after8lol good luck lastnode :)04:02
lastnode:)04:02
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lastnodebtw everytime  i reboot i gotta do insmod04:02
lastnodewhy is that?04:02
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thoreauputiclastnode: you need to put your module(s) in /etc/modules04:03
tritiumlastnode: you need to list the module in/etc/modules04:03
lastnodehow do i do that?04:03
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thoreauputiclastnode: just write it in04:04
Lethal-Rockssudo -i; nano /etc/modules04:04
Lethal-RocksI think it's root-only anyway04:04
lastnodeyeah, where's the module name in that though?04:04
thoreauputicLethal-Rocks:  yes - sudo nano /etc/modules would do04:04
nirtalis it like updating from hoary to breezy if u put the breezy apt to source.list and then run "apt-get upgrade"?04:04
tritiumlastnode: you have to add the one you're insmodding04:04
kemikno need todo a rootshell terminal04:04
iqbalaanyone knows how to change the resolution.. my exerternal monitor that is attched to my alptop is giving 1024 .. but i know this monitor can go upto 112804:04
thoreauputiclastnode: whatever you did modprobe/insmod on04:04
Lethal-Rocksthoreauputic, doing that or -e doesn't save it properly04:04
kemikLethal-Rocks:  the meaning with sudo isnt to "save it"04:05
tritiumnirtal: you have to do an update first04:05
kemik;)04:05
lastnodeok my head hurts04:05
thoreauputicLethal-Rocks: erm, I think you are mistaken04:05
lastnodei try this and brb04:05
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nirtalyeah but is it the same thing as upgrade to breezy?04:06
^rob^hi04:06
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Lethal-Rocksthoreauputic, Oh yeah, cool, but I use the root terminal icon instead ;)04:06
PhoenixP3KCan someone tell me how to make a Symlink in the "My Computer"04:06
^rob^anyone here use doctools? - or is there a wyswyg application to write sgml documentation ??04:06
tritiumnirtal: that's what you'd be doing, yes.  You would need to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:06
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nirtalcus in breezy my opengl isn't working at al. cant get the ati drivers working...04:08
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nirtalbut in hoary they work fine....04:08
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Whistleri am trying to update to breezy04:11
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Whistlercan anybody paste needed sources.list file?04:11
EepossuHow i can unmount my harddisk?04:11
Whistlercause i am trying to edit it and i cant make it work04:11
funkyHatcan someone help me with this: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2182 (beagle not starting)04:12
guillem101PhoenixP3K, "My Computer" is gnome-vfs only, you won't be able to create a symlink, AFAIK04:12
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funkyHatWhistler, paste.ubuntulinux.nl/218304:12
guillem101PhoenixP3K, however, you might create a launcher for it04:13
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EepossuHow i can unmount my harddisk?04:14
WhistlerfunkyHat thx04:14
Whistler:)04:14
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apokryphosEepossu: umount04:14
funkyHat:) np04:14
apokryphosEepossu: may want to remove it from fstab if it's there.04:14
Eepossuit doesnt work04:14
apokryphosif it's the HD that is used for / it'll likely not work04:14
Eepossui just need to unmount it04:14
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Eepossuits not04:14
apokryphosEepossu: what is its mount point, and what's the error message?04:15
WaernerHi, back again :)           I have 2 questions, the fist one is simple: Is Ubuntu 5.10 supposed to be able to install via apt-get?04:15
EepossuI just accidentally mounted my harddisk to /04:15
PhoenixP3Kguillem101, I'm not sure how to name the components... the this is yesterday when I mounted the volumes they were added on the Desktop and search menu for instance04:15
apokryphos:/04:15
tritiumWaerner: yes04:15
klexhow do i make a program start automatic after logging inn to gnome?04:15
apokryphosEepossu: your fstab doesn't have it mounted under /, though, does it?04:16
thoreauputicWaerner: yes, in fact that's the normal expected thing...04:16
Waernertritium, it's just a matter of time? or should it appear there by now?04:16
EepossuErr..04:16
apokryphosEepossu: I'd recommend restarting04:16
Eepossuokay04:16
Eepossuill try that :D04:16
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tritiumklex: if it's a gnome app, just leave it running when you log out, and save your session on logout04:16
guillem101PhoenixP3K, gconf-editor->apps->nautilus->computer_icon_visible04:16
tritiumWaerner: it won't appear.  you have to change your /etc/apt/sources.list file04:16
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thoreauputic!tell Waerner about upgrade2breezy04:17
tritiumEepossu: you could try chrooting to your original /, and then unmounting the drive04:17
Waernerthanks alot =))04:17
klexi have no network connection and now it uses a looong time to boot, what can i do to speed things up?04:18
vinboy123hi guys04:18
vinboy123how do I make my wifi card work when the linux bootup?04:18
vinboy123i need to set some parameters such as ad-hoc mode, ip etc04:18
WaernerThen I have one question more... Themes is Ubuntu with Gnome... Have I missed something or is it impossible to change the layout of the "menu bar"?04:18
tritiumvinboy123: you can set wireless parameters in /etc/network/interfaces.  run "man interfaces" for more info04:19
PhoenixP3Kguillem101, when but that would show only the computer icon on the desktop. Not the /media/Windows and /media/Storage being the two mounted volumes04:19
Eepossutritium, umm..chrooting?04:19
thoreauputicWaerner: you mean the  top panel?04:19
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tritiumEepossu: well, if you haven't heard of it, it's probably easier to simply reboot04:20
guillem101PhoenixP3K, gconf-editor->apps->nautilus->volumes_visible04:20
Waernerthoreauputic, exactly04:20
thoreauputicWaerner: you can move the elemnets around - right click, unlock, drag04:20
thoreauputic*elements04:20
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vinboy123thanks tritium04:20
PhoenixP3Kguillem101, well there is already a check mark :(04:20
guillem101PhoenixP3K, you can also make links to /media/Windows04:20
guillem101PhoenixP3K, etc, ..04:20
Waernerthoreauputic, yeah, but I want to change the style of it, I'm new to this with themes but have succeeded to download and install a few, but that panel looks so boring04:20
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emilethe touchpad's scrollbuttons on my laptop dont work, i can read downscrolling with xev, but no scrollup. i tried hoary and breezy, both fail. any suggestions?04:21
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guillem101PhoenixP3K, I guess volumes only mean removable storage in this case04:21
PhoenixP3Kguillem101, this seems to be so simple and easy I can't find it on the forums04:21
seliniumAny idea why sound juicer is ripping at x1.5 even though my drive is 8x4x32?04:21
thoreauputicWaerner: you can make it transparent , or size it or move it or remove it04:21
seliniumhi thoreauputic howzit?04:22
thoreauputicWaerner: right click panel, properties etc04:22
thoreauputichi selinium :)04:22
AnswerQuestion:  Can I redirect output to a file for logging, and still have it display to stdout at the same time?04:22
Waernerthoreauputic, ah, okay, cause I downloaded a MacOS-X theme, and everything is changed except that panel :)04:22
Eepossu\o/ now i got my harddisk working04:22
seliniumthoreauputic, I am slowly assimultaing all the information from this channel! (But my head hurts lots!)04:23
guillem101PhoenixP3K, I've done it right now: on the desktop, select the menu "create new launcher"04:23
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Answerselinium: you may be able to set the default speed with $cdrecord speed=#       man cdrecord04:23
thoreauputicselinium: heh - so does mine at the moment ;)04:23
guillem101PhoenixP3K,  Select as "Type": Link04:23
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guillem101PhoenixP3K, Give it a nice name at "Name"04:23
PhoenixP3Kguillem101, oh I see it. Thanks!04:23
guillem101PhoenixP3K, place at URL: "file://media/windows"04:24
seliniumAnswer, Cheers, i'll have a look!04:24
elroHi, I've noticed that ssh-ing into my ubuntu box over the internet is very slow. it takes about 20 seconds for the password prompt to come up. after I've logged in it's fine though04:24
guillem101PhoenixP3K, also, select apropriate icon for the launcher04:24
tritiumAnswer: I'm not sure if soundjuicer uses cdrecord04:24
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: are you still alive? Hullo?04:24
Answertritium: me neither but cdrecord may set the speed in a conf file... I've not seen many places to set cdr speed04:24
AnswerQuestion:  simple bash scripting redirection with >    how to redirect to a file and still display on stdout?04:25
thoreauputicAnswer: use tee04:25
tritiumAnswer: selinium, and that configuration is in /etc/default/cdrecord04:25
seliniumtritium: cheers!04:26
tritium:)04:26
Answerthoreauputic: simple example of how to use tee please ?04:26
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thoreauputicAnswer: e.g touch foo ; echo bar | tee bleh.txt04:27
netstarWhat is ubuntu's equivalent to /etc/rc.d/rc.local?04:27
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thoreauputicAnswer: heh sorry echo bar | tee foo04:27
guillem101How do I enable spam filtering in evo? I've installed spamassassin, and evo says that learns junk but no junk is ever filtered. Do I have to place "ENABLE=1" at /etc/default/spamassassin? or that is not necessary at all?04:27
thoreauputicAnswer: anyway you get the idea...04:27
Answerthoreauputic: tee = cool04:27
thoreauputic:)04:27
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reiki_workguillem101: are you using fetchmail and picking up from a local spool or downloading directly?04:28
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guillem101reiki_work, no, POP3 mail.04:28
Sputn1ksomebody can help me with Jack-Rack?04:28
fluffybunny_can anyone help me with mounting a usb drive in KDE?04:28
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fluffybunny_reiki_work: hey, how are you?04:28
reiki_workguillem101: one sec...04:29
reiki_workhi fluffybunny_ !04:29
apokryphosfluffybunny_: #kubuntu is better; it should mount automagically, though.04:29
fluffybunny_reiki_work: I've switched to KDE - no HAL or acpi errors04:29
fluffybunny_apokryphos: what is kubuntu?04:29
apokryphosubotu: tell fluffybunny_ about kubuntu04:29
reiki_workguillem101: http://www.yardbird.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=5904:29
danlit's ubuntu with kde instead of gnome04:29
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danlthats the jist04:30
reiki_workdirections for RUNNING spamassain in evolution^^^^04:30
fluffybunny_uhm... so how is kubuntu different from what I have (std ubuntu install, kde just installed from synaptic)04:30
thoreauputicnetstar: sort of similar I think:  /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh04:31
reiki_workguillem101: I wasn't happy with Evolution's "learning" process. It seemed slow.04:31
netstarthanks thoreauputic04:31
Sputn1kwhen i starting jack-rack i get this error: http://img374.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nuotrauka38xh.png04:31
reiki_workguillem101: running spamassassin as a filter slows down mail retrieval but it worked a lot better04:31
thoreauputicnetstar: gegnerally though you would use a script in /etc/init.d and run update-rc.d to set it up04:31
thoreauputic*geberally04:32
thoreauputichahah04:32
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netstar:)04:32
EepossuIm having problems at getting to internet04:32
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danlflufyfbunny: im running ubuntu with kde installed from synaptic as well, I think it's almost the same except gnome isn't installed by default...04:32
reiki_workfluffybunny_: how do you like KDE desktop as opposed to Gnome desktop?04:32
apokryphosfluffybunny_: because obviously #kubuntu would have more kde users; or, rather, it's the channel more specific for exactly kde-related-problems04:32
Sputn1kso no ides? :(04:32
guillem101reiki_work, thanks!. However, I don't understand which is the difference between this and the built-in way....04:33
fluffybunny_apokryphos: doh! i didn't realise you were talking about an IRC channel! oops!04:33
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guillem101reiki_work, it is supposed that Evo should do that, isn't it?04:33
EepossuWhen i run pppoeconf it doesnt work. How to get that workin?04:33
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AnswerEepossu: what kind of hardware and connection are you attemping?04:33
thoreauputicfluffybunny_: can a bunny grin sheepishly ? ;-)04:33
danlis there any way to get shfs to authenticate using ssh authorized keys that i already have setup and working for the remote machine in question?04:33
apokryphosfluffybunny_: =)04:33
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reiki_workguillem101: yes... perhaps I was to impatient, but I didn't like the way the "built-in" thing worked... because it didn't seem to work AND it seemed to be stripping teh spam headers. I never got it writing headers correctly. So I switched to fetchmail ->procmail->spamassassin04:34
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nomedhi all04:34
fluffybunny_thoreauputic: can grin wolfishly.... :D04:34
nomedit seems gmessage has some problem reading from stdin04:35
nomedcan anyone try this cmd ?04:35
thoreauputicfluffybunny_: mwuhahaha! :D04:35
Eepossuanswer, umm.. i think its dial up or broadband connection.. And my internetcard is ZyXEL PPC10 phoneline PCI card04:35
nomedecho gmessage | gmessage -file -04:35
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AnswerEepossu:  read about   man iwconifg    man ifconfig04:35
nomedit should show "gmessage" but i see just -file04:35
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danli get a message box with the file name04:36
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fluffybunny_thoreauputic: now I have "Lambert, the sheepish Lion" on my brain... :D04:36
thoreauputic:D04:36
nomeddanl, the message shows "gmessage" ?04:37
lutiferhi04:37
danlnomad: no it shows -file04:37
Eepossuanswer, than ill try that04:37
Eepossuthanks*04:37
nomedyes so it's abug04:37
AnswerEepossu:  when you think you have ifconfig and iwconfig setup correctly, run dhclient to try to get an IP with dhcp.  also see   man wireless   man interfaces04:38
guillem101reiki_work, thanks  a lot.  Let's hope it is solved at Breezy, btw04:38
reiki_workguillem101: glad to help04:38
reiki_workguillem101: and I'm not sure it's a Breezy issue... I think it's an Evolution issue04:39
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EricVHello !04:40
EricVcan i ask you some help about installing an edubuntu on a vmware gsx server ?04:40
AnswerEricV: It's a free country...04:41
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danlnomad: looking at the man page, the command should be echo somemessage | gmessage -file -04:43
EricVthx Answer ;) i feel good ! ya can help me, especially about formating HD ?04:43
AnswerEricV: I only said you were free to ask about it... hehe04:44
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EricVso i prefer dictature...04:45
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Lie-Algebrahello, supposing i want to add a memory stick on my laptop, once it is done, will ubuntu be happy ?04:48
funkyHatwould it be possible to hack usplash to work at 1280x1024? (or any other resolution)04:49
funkyHat?04:49
NermalLie-Algebra, yah04:49
guillem101Lie-Algebra, Almost as happy as You'll be04:49
Nermalshould just see it as a usb mass storage device04:49
Lie-Algebrausb?04:49
Nermalis it a vaio ?04:49
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Lie-AlgebraI am not sure to understan why it should appear as usb mass storage...04:49
Lie-Algebranope04:49
Nermalwell how are you interfacing the memory stick into it ?04:50
Lie-AlgebraHP compaq NX 611004:50
Nermala memory stick or some other memory format ?04:50
funkyHatLie-Algebra, most memory stick slots are internal USB devices04:50
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reiki_workadding an additional memory module inside?04:50
tritiumfunkyHat: you tried vga=795, and it failed to work?04:50
funkyHatoh, that kind of memory lol04:50
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Lie-Algebrai can add one more, there is the place...04:50
NermalLie-Algebra, yes.. it will be fine04:50
reiki_work:)04:50
Lie-Algebrathanks04:51
funkyHattritium, yes, usplash works fine having taken vga=795 off my kernel line, but didn't before04:51
Nermalunless you go over 896mb in which case you will need to install a 686 kernel to get large memory support and get the full 1gb :P04:51
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Sputn1kwhen i starting jack-rack i get this http://img374.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nuotrauka38xh.png help me somebody :/04:51
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LeeColletonI have a pretty serious problem with my girlfriends laptop.  It suddenly has a failure in mounting the hard drive on boot.  Kernel panic ensues.  The exact message is: EXT3-fs: hda1: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (20002000).04:52
LeeColletonIs that a failed hard drive?04:52
funkyHatis it still true that ubuntu doesn't use the local unix font server? (i had the line in xorg.conf commented out before, but when i upgraded to breezy i restored the default config)04:52
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LeeColletonOh great.  Now on power up I get "Operating System not found".  That must be a failed drive.  Craptastic.04:55
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PhoenixP3KCan someone tell me where is located the icon of a hard-drive? Like the one you see in the "Computer" menu04:58
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bad1234hi, I've got a problem getting CPUFreq working on a centrino notebook (-> speedstep). Does the standard 686kernel contain a CPUFreq Interface04:59
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dabaRheh, the University network uses DHCP, and allows for booting off the CD, guess what OS I am using here now...05:05
apokryphosLinspire!05:05
dabaRNo, Ubuntu.05:06
dabaRheh05:06
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dabaRright in the lab, I find that fascinating.05:06
dabaRok, later, gotta listen to the lecture.05:06
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rifficI seem to have a problem with the latest dist-upgrade in breezy05:09
rifficdid that this morning, rebooted, and now gdm doesn't come up05:09
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Deanodriverhi05:10
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rifficsup05:10
Deanodrivernot a lot05:10
rifficcool05:10
Deanodriverjust the normal 'i tried to upgrade to breezy and broke it' :)05:10
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prolsd;D05:11
zimba-tmhi05:11
rifficlooks like you and me are in the same boat05:11
Deanodriveri'm having a look through the xorg log file05:11
DeanodriverFatal server error:05:11
Deanodrivercould not open default font 'fixed';05:11
Deanodriverthe X server's font paths might be misconfigured, remote font server(s)05:11
Deanodrivermay be unreachable, and/or local fonts may not be installed or are not05:11
Deanodriverconfigured correctly.05:11
Deanodriver] 05:11
Deanodriverhmm05:11
riffica sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart does jack for me05:11
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Deanodriver(the ]  isn't part of the file) :)05:11
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apokryphosDeanodriver: read the topic. Do *not* paste in here.05:11
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zimba-tmcan somebody tell me how to copy->paste between a terminal and an X app ?05:12
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Lethal-RocksDrag-select and right-click05:13
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Answerzimba-tm: leave it highlighted in the terminal, use right or middle mouse to paste05:13
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dabaRwhats the command to open xnest again?05:13
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AnswerdabaR: whereis xnest, locate xnest05:14
dabaRAnswer: no, I can dpkg -L for that, but its not that, I remember something else.05:15
zimba-tmI can copy->paste between urxvt and Firefox, until I copy something in FF05:15
thoreauputicdabaR: it depends - if you want a login you can do gdmflexiserver --xnest (or something like that)05:15
dabaRthoreauputic: thanks.05:15
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GNU-GPL.05:15
zimba-tmAnswer: I don't use gnome-terminal, that must be the problem05:15
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zimba-tmisn't there a clipboard manager for the different sources out there ?05:19
bob2apokryphos: er, I'm not sure punitive bans are a good solution05:19
zimba-tmlike how many different clipboard implementation exist out there ? :-/05:19
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apokryphosbob2: agreed. I see them as more editorial decisions, generally.05:20
rifficholy shit that guy hasn't been unbanned yet05:20
riffici'm sure it was an honest mistake05:20
bob2if you're trying to stop a flood, /remove them from the channel05:21
apokryphosriffic: perhaps. It's not unreasonable to ask people to read the topic when they enter the channel of course05:21
yahalomhow do i reinstall firefox?  sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox?05:22
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bob2yahalom: that's not going to fix problems with it, if that's what you're trying to do05:22
EepossuWhen i try to ifconfig eth0 up it says "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied"05:22
apokryphosbob2: I prefer q personally05:22
bob2removing it after the person has left is pointless05:22
yahalombob2: it wont even start after yesterdays firefox update05:22
bob2+q is fine if you actualy need to stop someone talking in here05:22
apokryphosbob2: a q? No it's not.05:22
EepossuWhen i try to ifconfig eth0 up it says "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied". How to fix this05:23
yahalomEepossu: sudo05:23
Eepossuh05:23
yahalomEepossu: sudo ifconfig05:23
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x-perthey05:23
x-perti am trying to share a printer between two pc's05:23
rifficyahalom: wget http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.0.6/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-1.0.6.tar.gz ; tar xzf firefox*, yadda05:23
yahalomriffic: thanx05:24
bob2yahalom: reinstalling is unlikely to help05:24
riffic=)05:24
yahalomso many users having issues with firefox on breezy?05:24
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riffici'm using firefox 1.5 beta.. seems ok05:24
rifficbut on the other hand my breezy won't even load into gdm after today's update05:24
x-perti am trying to share a printer between two pc's pone has linux ubuntu and the other windows XP the printer is installed in the computer which has windowsand it is set to be shared.in ubuntu i have added a new printer, but it still doesnt work... do i nedd anything else?05:24
bob2riffic: did you file a bug?05:25
rifficno should I?05:25
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riffici don't know what the cause would be so I don't really know what bug I should file05:25
bob2riffic: if something is broken, especially after an update, yes05:25
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EepossuStill pppoeconf doesnt work05:26
jack-question: i'm trying to install vmware workstation on my ubuntu (hoary)05:26
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bob2"doesn't work" is not a very good description of a problem05:26
jack-it wants to make a fresh monitor binary since "my kernel isnt suitable for the premade binaries"05:27
barongasWhenever I try and play an mp3-file with xmms it freezes, I have downloaded all the mp3 stuffs and using esd for sounds out. Any ideas?05:27
x-pertwhat do i nedd to put the printer working05:27
jack-but doesnt find the kernel headers..any hint? :<05:27
rifficdon't use xmms?05:27
riffic=)05:27
bob2jack-: er, install them? sudo aptitude install build=essential linux=headers-$(uname -r)05:27
rifficamarok, muine, rhythmbox, xmms2, etc05:27
riffici heard that quid libet player is pretty nice05:27
riffichaven't tried it yet though05:28
jack-_anyone_ here ever tried vmware at all?05:28
jack-:(05:28
zimba-tmbarongas: I had good experiences with oss, install alsa-oss05:28
Sputn1kWhen i trying to start jack-rack i get this error: Could not open ALSA sequencer, aborting No such file or directory Make sure you have configure ALSA properly and that /proc/asound/seq/clients exists and contains relevant devices.05:28
bob2jack-: er, I told you how to fix it05:28
jack-bob2, thx05:28
yahalomEepossu: u have a router modem?05:28
jack-but i did that already..05:28
Eepossuno..05:28
bob2jack-: also, vmware is proprietary, commercial software; you should be getting support from them05:29
jack-linux-kernel-headers is already the newest version.05:29
bob2jack-: then do it again05:29
Sputn1kpls somebody... :)05:29
yahalomEepossu: u did sudo pppoeconf?05:29
barongaszimba-tm/riffic I'll try oss. If that don't work I'll try your alternatives riff05:29
Eepossuyeah05:29
jack-bob2, i know, but its an ubuntu related problem isnt it05:29
EepossuIt just fails everytime05:29
jack-i doubt they'll be willing to help instantly05:29
bob2jack-: with proprietary software; you gace them money, it's their responsibility to help you05:29
jack-but i'd like to get it running instantly ;)05:29
jack-if they would have an hippocratic oath like a doctor..05:30
jack-sigh05:30
yahalomEepossu: what u mean fails?05:30
EepossuIt tells me something that starts "Sorry..."05:30
yahalombob2: reinstall fixed it man05:30
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jack-bob2, btw05:31
bob2yahalom: then file a bug05:31
jack-why aptitude instead of apt-get?05:31
spiralhi05:31
yahalombob2: k :)05:31
bob2aptitude makes it easier to remove things05:31
barongasI get OSS-unit "/dev/dsp" is already used by another program.. which makes no real sense05:31
jack-ok, thx05:31
yahalomEepossu: it wont work if ur already connected with something05:32
yahalomEepossu: try rebooting and then do it again05:32
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bob2barongas: sure it does; something else is using that device05:32
mirakhow is called a project leader in english ? A "project chief" ?05:33
barongasbob2: That's what it says, I just don't have any other media-ish programs running05:33
Eepossuyahalom, i have tried it many times.. after many reboots05:33
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bob2barongas: fuser -v /dev/ds[05:34
bob2mirak: project leader05:34
xigletis it possible to use apt-get to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 ?05:35
bob2xiglet: wiki/BreezyUpgradeNotes05:36
bwlangxiglet: i'm doing that now05:36
xiglettnx05:36
bob2former redhat users have funny views on upgrades05:36
bwlangxiglet: there is at least one quirk05:36
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xigletbwlang, ok?05:36
bwlangxiglet: if you don't know how to manually resolve pkg conflicts then you should probably wait05:37
w-the-cI need to update my fglrx kernel module, but I am unsure about how to do that with ubuntu because it doesn't seem like the kernel source is available...  is a new kernel coming out soon?05:37
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bob2you don't need kernel source to compile kernel modules05:37
bob2this is not redhat05:37
bob2or gentoo05:37
xigletbwlang, ok ... I guess i'll wait then. I have the cd but didn't look like it supported upgrading05:37
bob2or whatever05:37
w-the-coh..   cool, ok =)05:37
bob2firegl is included with ubuntu, too, anyway05:37
bob2if you really feel an uncontrollable urge to compile it, sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential05:38
w-the-cfiregl?  what's the difference between fglrx and firegl?05:38
shinmenHey guys. I have a but to report for sound converter, but I'm not shure if I should report it to the upstream developers or at ubuntu's bug database.05:38
bob2shinmen: "sound converter05:39
bob2"?05:39
Eepossuargh05:39
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EepossuWhy this shit doesnt work!?05:39
yahalomEepossu: what details do u enter, or does it never go that far?05:39
EepossuIm starting to get pissed of05:39
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EepossuIt never goes that far05:40
barongasbob2: thanks05:40
shinmenbob2, An aplication for translating audio formats that can be read by gstreamer.05:40
shinmenbob2, apt-cache show soundconverter05:40
bob2right05:40
bob2file a bug in ubuntu then05:40
shinmenbob2, Ok.05:41
cogumbreirolo all05:41
cogumbreirodoes anyone know why this message is appearing? (process:28093): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library05:41
bob2ignore it05:42
cogumbreiroi can't seem to be able to change my ubuntu to my native language05:42
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cogumbreiroi do: LC_ALL=pt_PT ooffice205:42
mirakbob2 what is above a proejct leader ? A project director ?05:42
cogumbreiroand it doesn't work and I've enabled the language pack05:42
EepossuApplications -> system tools -> ubuntu device database program bugs after getting to network part..05:42
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pluffsyI can't get dhcp to work in ubuntu :(05:45
bob2mirak: I don't know what you mean05:45
Answerpluffsy:  dhclient05:45
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mirakbob2 I am trying to find the equivalent in english for project roles05:46
pluffsyAnswer: I tried doing it from the gnome Networking gui but it didn't work. You think I should try that dhclient from cli?05:46
mirakso developer < project leader <   and project director ?05:46
Answerpluffsy:  dhclient05:46
bob2mirak: this doesn't sound very ubuntu-related05:46
pluffsyermm05:46
mirakbob2 that's absolutely not realted05:47
mirakrelated05:47
mirakbut the question still stands ^^^05:47
mirak^^05:47
Answermirak:  developer < designer < manager < director05:47
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ndwHi all05:48
ndwOn Ubuntu running Breezy, zenity reports: GLib-ERROR **: file goption.c: line 890 (parse_arg): should not be reached05:48
ndw aborting...05:48
olliedoes anyone have any experience using bogofilter w/evolution?05:48
ndwIs this news? :-)05:48
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barongasI'm reading some guide for getting alsa working with oss and all for ubuntu. I'm supposed to have a file /etc/asound.conf which I don't have. Any ideas on where it could be or why I don't have it?05:48
ollieI'm trying to setup a machine for my mom, and the lack of spam filtering is a problem05:49
ollieI tried spamassasin, but wasn't working very well05:49
Answerbarongas:  locate alsa.conf05:49
fluffybunny_any power ubergeeks who can help a fluffybunny with her usb problem?05:49
ollieso far, googling hasn't turned up anything useful -- exccept requests that something be done about evolution & spam filtering ;-)05:49
mirak545405:50
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zblachhi05:51
darkheartfluffybunny_ Just ask your question and if someone knows they will answer =)05:51
zblachquestion. i'm connected remotely to my computer. how can i set up proftpd?05:51
thrushollie, just set her up with a gmail account ;^p05:51
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zblachi'd like to actually get some files off my compy05:52
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olliethrush: already got one, but she's got another account which gets a good deal of spam05:52
Answerzblach: you are using a windows machine to connect remotely to ubuntu?05:52
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Answerzblach: apt-get install proftpd05:52
Deanodriverfinally fixed my problem05:53
Deanodriverthanks for banning me there, made me go and look for the solution myself :)05:53
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darkheartzblach How are you connected to your box?05:53
ollieI've got to say, this seems like a big oversight in terms of usability for a low-tech user -- someone who just wants to browse the internet, send and receive e-mail, and edit some docs05:53
Deanodrivernow i've gotta reconfigure GDM :)05:53
thrushollie, thunderbird isnt bad at blocking spam05:53
ollieanyhoo, enough whining, I'll just setup the spambayes proxy05:53
zblachanswer, 1) yes, 2) its already installed05:53
zblachdarkheart, i'm connected via putty05:54
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olliethrush: yeah, but w/evolution, she's got an outlook equivlent -- which makes the transition easier05:54
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AnswerQuestion: What situation is freenx good for05:55
darkheartAnswer Remote desktop05:55
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thrushollie, yah evolutions nice.. good luck =)05:55
Answerdarkheart: how do I connect from one ubuntu to another using freenx?05:55
olliethrush: thankee ;-)05:55
Deanodriverby the way, breezy looks nice :)05:55
darkheartAnswer Is it installed?05:55
Answerdarkheart: freenx and dependents installed05:56
darkheartAnswer Just install the nx client on the box you are using and connect to the box running the nx server.05:56
Answerdarkheart: how to run the nxserver05:56
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mindamphow do i use this mail command to display the sender as well?05:57
mindampmail -s "Your New MindAmp.Org Blog" $2 < /source/welcome05:57
Deanodriveris there any way to use the hoary nautilus icons in breezy?05:58
Deanodriveri prefered the Hoary ones05:58
Sputn1kSomebody using Jack-Rack???05:58
Deanodriver:)05:58
Sputn1kso?05:58
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zblachi'm just having trouble connecting. I'm not sure how to configure proftpd.conf05:58
Sputn1knobody?05:58
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barongasAnswer: Are you sure that alsa.conf and asound.conf are the same? It doesn't really look like what the guide is describing.05:58
darkheartAnswer I don't use nx so I don't know the name of the files, but it's something like nxserver or something...If you open synaptic and search for freenx, you can check the properties and see which files were installed.05:59
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darkheartzblach You can transfer files through ssh if that's good enough for you.05:59
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AnswerQuestion:  apt-get install freenx   :  Couldn't find package freenx.   Synaptic doesn't see it either06:01
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robotgeek!info freenx06:02
darkheartAnswer You said it was installed earlier06:02
darkheartAnswer It looks like it's in the backports repository.06:03
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gypsymaurohi06:03
thoreauputic!freenx06:04
ubotusomebody said freenx was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX06:04
thoreauputic^^^06:04
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thoreauputicseveas has nade debs for freenx06:05
thoreauputic*made06:05
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darkheartAnswer Btw, if you can't apt-get something, synaptic won't be able to either.06:07
Answeryeah so it worked on my other laptop but not this one06:07
AnswerI have all the repositories added exactly the same06:07
Answergot the cd in the drive06:07
darkheartAnswer Did you run apt-get update?06:07
Answerone laptop sees freenx the other does not06:07
AnswerCouldn't find package freenx06:08
Kuoliobuah, still not transcode for amd64 :(06:08
Kuolioeven in breezy06:08
Answerdarkheart: can I scp packages between two ubuntus06:08
meuserj|workdarkheart, it appears that seveas archive is broken06:09
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meuserj|workgetting 404 on Packages.gz06:09
stelkiHello, where do I see my root password? I dont think I set one during install?06:09
vel$sudo su06:09
luckyabastelki: its the same as your user password06:09
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stelkioh06:10
stelkithx06:10
stelkineed to change that :o06:10
darkheartmeuserj|work I just installed freenx from the backports repository.06:10
luckyabalol06:10
stelkiafaik root password shouldnt be the same as a users password06:10
apokryphosThere is no root pass in Ubuntu06:10
sewoylits just that your user is sudoable if thts a word06:11
thoreauputic!tell stelki about root06:11
apokryphos...by default. Or, there is a scrambled one -- root account disabled, that is.06:11
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mirakhow is the called the world work ?06:11
darkheartAnswer I suppose you could if you still have the file cached, but I don't know if it will update your apt database when you do that.06:11
mirakhow is called this concept ?06:11
stelkithoreauputic, roger, will read that up, thd06:11
robotgeekubotu network-manager is http://bootlab.org/~j/NetworkManager-breezy/06:11
ubotuokay, robotgeek06:11
thoreauputicstelki: lots of places use sudo - it has many advantages actually06:12
robotgeekstelki: even OS X uses sudo :)06:12
stelkididnt know =) thanks for the info06:12
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stelkiheh, sudo is nice, thanks again06:14
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Answerdarkheart: why cant apt-get or synaptic see freenx :(06:15
thoreauputicAnswer: did you read the wiki page I posted from ubotu?06:16
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robotgeek!tell me about network-manager06:17
thoreauputicah .. Seveas' server has problems?06:17
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Answerthoreauputic:  on one laptop, synaptic finds freenx.  on my other laptop, package not found...  thanks for the debs link tho06:18
robotgeekubotu network-manager is Network-Manager will work only on breezy. You can install network-manager on breezy by following instructions at http://bootlab.org/~j/NetworkManager-breezy/ .06:18
uboturobotgeek: I think you lost me on that one06:18
thoreauputicAnswer: oh - that's odd06:18
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thoreauputicAnswer: and you're welcome06:18
Answerthoreauputic: all repositories are enabled, and both are even on the same network.  apt-get doesnt find the package either06:19
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thoreauputicAnswer: bizarre06:19
stelki!tell me about nvidia06:19
thrushlooking for a usb or pcmcia bluetooth card for my laptop anyone know which ones have the best native support?06:19
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jack-!tell me about vmware06:19
robotgeek!tell me about botabuse06:19
Answerubotu != google !!!!06:19
ubotuAnswer: Are you on ritalin?06:20
stelkisorry06:20
thoreauputic!ubotu06:21
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, or better than SmarterChild06:21
jack-nice bot06:21
Answer!thanks06:21
ubotuno worries, Answer06:21
thoreauputichttp://ubuntu.cc.com.au/  <---- list of factoids etc06:21
jack-!joint06:21
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, jack-06:21
jack-:P06:21
Answer!tell jack commands06:21
Answer!tell jack about commands06:22
jack-doesnt work06:22
jack-guess you'd have to specify jack- instead, d'oh06:22
sewoylhey you english savy guys could help me! what does an analyst programmer do? analyse or analysis ?06:23
jack-analytics ;p06:23
Answer!tell jack- about commands06:23
thoreauputicthat factoid is for shell commands actually06:23
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darkheartsewoyl What exactly is the question? analysis is a noun, analyze is a verb.06:23
thoreauputicsewoyl: analysis = noun analyse = verb06:23
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sewoyldarkheart, thoreauputic , jack- , i want to say 'i improved my an...... skill'06:24
sewoylas an analystprogrammer06:24
Answersewoyl: are you job searching?  ignore the titles they are meaningless and rarely reveal what you will be doing06:24
jack-after a while of anal-ytics06:24
thoreauputicsewoyl: analytical06:24
jack-i decided to stick with vaginalytics06:24
jack-:<06:24
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Krnekihay06:24
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Krnekii have problem06:24
darkheartsewoyl Yeah, what thoreauputic said, and I would probably say 'analytical skills' (added the s)06:25
Answersewoyl: I improved my analytical prowess by carefully crafting my sentences06:25
Krnekiconfigure: WARNING: cannot find setupterm - trying tgetent06:25
Krnekichecking for tgetent in -ltermlib... no06:25
Krnekichecking for tgetent in -ltermcap... no06:25
Krnekichecking for tgetent in -lcurses... no06:25
Krnekiconfigure: error: cannot find setupterm or tgetent06:25
jack-i have problem too, want mine? then you have two problem06:25
Krnekiwhat do i have to install06:25
sewoyldarkheart, thoreauputic thanks!06:25
thoreauputicKrneki: do NOT paste in here06:25
Krnekisoory06:25
thoreauputic!tell Krneki about paste06:25
Krnekidoes anyone know what has to be installed06:25
rouvendoes anybody no of a mail notification applet that uses evos "new mail" dbus message?06:26
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rouvens/no/know06:26
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Krnekiam06:27
Krnekiwill anyone help please06:27
apokryphosKrneki: please do not paste in here06:27
sewoylKrneki, maybe tgetent :)  i have no idea what that is06:27
Krnekii know now06:27
Krnekii am terrible sorrz06:27
thoreauputicKrneki: what are you trying to compile, and why?06:28
Krnekisorry06:28
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thoreauputicindeed06:28
Krnekii trz to compile BitchX06:28
thoreauputic:)06:28
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thoreauputicKrneki: it's in the repos06:28
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cogumbreirois there any reason to why locales do not work on breezy?06:28
Krnekiwhat repos06:28
darkheartKrneki 'sudo apt-get install bitchx'06:28
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darkheart!tell Krneki about repositories06:28
storm99hi06:29
Krnekiaha06:29
apokryphos!info bitchx06:29
ubotubitchx: (Advanced Internet Relay Chat client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1:1.0-0c19.20030512-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1352 kB, Installed size: 6232 kB06:29
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apokryphosKrneki: You will need to enable the Universe repository.06:29
borfasthi everyone06:29
storm99if i have 5.04 installed, can i make the upgrade of all the package in the distro to 5.10?06:29
thoreauputicapokryphos: beat me to it :)06:29
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Krnekihow to do that06:29
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thoreauputic!tell Krneki about repos06:29
darkheartKrneki ubotu just sent you a message about it.06:30
thrushKrneki, you might sudo apt-get install build-essentials while youre at it.  Youll have more luck compiling stuff06:30
apokryphosKrneki: check the link ubotu just gave you.06:30
Krnekiok tnx06:30
apokryphos*build-essential. But, there's generally no need to compile if it's in the repos06:30
Krnekiwhich link06:30
thoreauputic!repos06:31
ubotuit has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96906:31
thoreauputicKrneki: ^^^^06:31
Krnekiaha tnx06:31
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pluffsyI've tried using gnome gui "networking" and "dhclient eth0" in the cli to get dhcp to function. but it just won't. I've asked around and it seems like I'm doing nothing wrong. I'm running 5.04 without updates (since I can't connect). any ideas? please?06:31
thoreauputicKrneki: learn to check your /msg es :)06:31
Krnekii chechk them06:31
Krneki:(06:31
pluffsysome linux people say ubuntu is broken and I should try something else, but I really don't want to switch dist.06:31
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thoreauputicKrneki: well ubotu sent you that link06:31
Krnekiaha06:32
Krnekiok thanks guzs06:32
sewoylpluffsy, well i dont think ubuntu is more broken than the people who tod you that!06:32
sewoyltold*06:32
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Krnekicya soon with new problems06:32
Krneki:)06:32
sewoylbye krn06:32
thoreauputicpluffsy: and how did they think ububuntu was broken?06:32
thoreauputicheh ubuntu06:33
borfastguys, I'm having a problem with Apache, it won't start and in the error log it complains about not being able to find the Apache2.pm perl module (I have libapache2-mod-perl2 installed). I should say that I upgraded to breezy last night, so I'm not sure if it's something related to that. does anyone know what's going on and/or how I can fir this?06:33
pluffsysomething like it got weird config files and people with correctly configured systems have problems that usually are ubuntus fault.06:33
pluffsydo you have any idea of what can be wrong with dhcp?06:33
thoreauputicpluffsy: "some linux people" ? Which ones? and do they know Ubuntu?06:33
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pluffsythoreauputic: no idea, irc people. don't know them in real life.06:34
pluffsybut hey let's prove them wrong by fixing my broken dhcp :P06:34
sewoylpluffsy, sorry if this sounds stupid but iyour network dhcp enabled ?06:34
thoreauputicpluffsy: well, best to listen to people who actually use Ubuntu, no?06:34
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velwhy is ubuntu cool?06:34
sewoylis your* sory my keyboard is funny those days06:34
bwlangborfast: it's to generic... what's the actual error message?06:35
BlueEagleGot to love the package description for "Break the Ice" though. :)06:35
pluffsysewoyl: yeah I'm using dhcp on my mac right now.06:35
BlueEagle"icebreaker" even06:35
pc22is there cdburning in ubuntu?06:35
BlueEaglepc22: Yes.06:35
thoreauputicpc22: sure06:35
pc22is there cdburning in ubuntu like nero?06:35
BlueEaglepc22: I prefer k3b for burning cds.06:35
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sewoylpc22, I use graveman on my laptop06:36
bwlangsewoyl: which dhcp client do you have installed?06:36
pc22sorry im just migrated from windows06:36
thrushpc22, gnomebaker or k3b06:36
borfastbwlang, there's two lines:06:36
borfast[error]  Can't locate Apache2.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_pe06:36
borfast [error]  Can't load Perl module Apache2 for server localhost.localdomain:0, exiting...06:36
BlueEaglepc22: Need to install cdrtao too though.06:36
thoreauputicpc22: most people prefer k3b or graveman or gnomebaker06:36
pluffsySewoyl: when I type in what the dhcp server gives me by hand in ubuntu it works for a few minutes and then stops working. then I need to plug in my other machine where dhcp works to get a connection again.06:36
sewoylbwlang, I just use the built in gnome/ubuntu thing06:36
pc22is that installed or do i have to update it?06:36
BlueEaglepc22: You will need to install k3b and cdrtao. Not sure about gnomebaker but I think it's optional as well.06:37
thoreauputicpc22: you can install any of those with the package manager06:37
sewoylpluffsy, I'm not sure what you mean with 'what the dhcp server gives you by hand'06:37
thoreauputicBlueEagle:  *cdrdao06:37
pc22ok thanks. is that possible with data files?06:37
BlueEaglethoreauputic: Ahh, ofcourse.06:37
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BlueEaglepc22: is what possible with data files?06:37
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thrushpc22, if you just want to burn files to a cd you can do that from the file manager06:37
thoreauputicpc22: for data files you can use the built-in burner06:37
pluffsysewoyl: the dhcp server gives me a gateway ip, my ip, etc. I used static and typed that in by hand in the ubuntu computer.06:38
bwlangborfast: okay - does that file exist on your system (use locate or find)06:38
borfastyes, it does06:38
pc22like image files06:38
BlueEaglebwlang: syntax for find can be tricky at times. Might want to give him an example.06:38
borfastin /usr/lib/perl5/Bundle/Apache2.pm06:38
sewoylpluffsy, so it kindof works, the dhcp server assigns you an ip bu you can't co nnect is that right?06:38
BlueEaglepc22: iso images or jpg images? :p06:38
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pc22jpg images06:39
thoreauputicpc22: you can type burn:/// in the file manager and drag and drop image files06:39
pc22or document files06:39
BlueEaglepc22: You can use the internal burner app for that.06:39
quietisn't there some place in the wiki for adding additional repos...06:39
borfastI don't know how to add it to that @include path so that Apache finds it06:39
quietthat actually lists the repos.. not how to add them06:39
pc22thanks i will try06:39
thoreauputic!tell quiet about repos06:39
pluffsysewoyl: dhcp doesn't work at all on the ubuntu computer, but on the same connection it works with my mac. but when I take the information dhcp provides my mac with and types it in myself on the ubuntu machine the network works under ubuntu for a few minutes.06:39
sewoylthe burn:// thing upset me one time because it doesn't append files o an existing cd :(06:39
quietthanks thoreauputic06:40
thoreauputicquiet: look at the second URL for a list06:40
quietyep06:40
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sewoylpluffsy, i dont think i can help you sorry :(06:40
BlueEaglesewoyl: It isn't multisession by default? (or at all??)06:40
pc22im currently on gnome if i downloaded using synaptic kde environment, how do i change from gnome to kde?06:41
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bwlangborfast: you could try adding a temporary symlink from the Bundle dir to ..\06:41
Riddellpc22: change "session" before login06:41
BlueEaglepc22: On the logon screen under "session"06:41
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pluffsysewoyl: damn. damn damn. internet not working makes it so useless. think I should try to reinstall?06:41
pc22where can i find that?06:41
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thoreauputicpc22: install kubuntu-desktop, and use the sessions list06:41
sewoylBlueEagle, i dont think so, i had two files on a CDRW thn the next day i dragged a file in burn:// and clicked the 'burn' buton and all that was on my cd was .... that one last file :(06:41
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BlueEaglesewoyl: Hmm.. ok. I've never used that, so I wouldn't know. :)06:42
sewoylpluffsy, have you googled 'ubuntu your-cardname-or-model' ?06:42
pluffsysewoyl: what cardname? like my ethernet card?06:43
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darkheartpluffsy What is your set up?06:43
pc22can i see my open office files from linux in windows?06:43
sewoylpluffsy, yes, just trying to give ome hints !06:43
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thrushpluffsy, I had the same problem today worked fine for months and today I have jumped on several routers that I always use some worked some didnt..06:44
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pluffsysewoyl: I've been googling for dhcp probelms with ubuntu.haven't really found anything06:44
sewoylpc22, ye theyre the same files!!06:44
djm62pc22: the best way is probably to have a FAT partition to share between both, or use a USB key for shared files.  Windows doesn't understand most linux filesystems06:44
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pluffsythrush: hmm weird. :(06:45
darkheartdjm62 Are there any Linux filesystems that Windows does understand?06:45
djm62darkheart: basically, no.  I think you can do it with some serious effort, but it's less trouble to work round it :-/06:45
pluffsydarkheart: use fat on linux if you need it to work with windows. :/06:46
sewoyldjm62, I found a ext2 driver thatworks great!!06:46
djm62sewoyl: how easy is it to install etc?06:46
Centaur5My wireless card that worked in Hoary for some reason won't work in Breezy. It finds it and loads it but when I configure it the card doesn't seem to transmit anything. Anything I can do?06:46
sewoylvery easy i dont remember any problem06:46
sewoyllet met ry to dinf the site06:46
darkheartpluffsy I was trying to make a point, not asking for help =)06:47
thrushpluffsy, thinking about apt-getting dhcpcd..06:47
djm62darkheart: well, there is no "linux filesystem" ;)  you can run it from FAT if you want06:48
pluffsythrush: yeah I wanted to try that too, but it said it needed to remove dhcp3-client and ubuntu-base. sounded kinda bad. or?06:48
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thoreauputicdarkheart: basically windows is brain-dead06:48
pluffsybasically.06:48
darkheartdjm62 Yeah I know, but those were your words =)06:48
darkheartdjm62 I was just poking at windows =006:49
darkheart=)06:49
darkheartthoreauputic Exactry06:49
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thoreauputicdarkheart: windows will, however, happily wipe your linux install without asking any questions ;)06:50
sewoylhmm cant find the site back all i know now is that i have a new 'IFS Dives' icon in my control panel06:50
pluffsyI think I'll try to reinstall... is that stupid?06:50
sewoylaybe you can google that06:50
darkheartthoreauputic Hell, any non-Windows install it will be glad to clean up for you ;)06:50
thoreauputicdarkheart: indeed :) Very accommodating, is windows </sarcasm>06:51
DaSkreechWhat would cause the right shift and right alt to not work under Ubuntu?06:51
pluffsybtw could networking be messed up if I don't have it connected during install?06:51
thrushpluffsy, just pulled it down nothing drastic happened ;)06:52
pluffsythrush: did it say it needed to remove ubuntu-base for you?06:52
thrushpluffsy, yes06:52
thoreauputicpluffsy: possibly - it's better to have everything hooked up06:52
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thrushpluffsy, but you only live once =)06:52
pluffsythoreauputic: hmm just don't wanna be without networking on my other computer for 2 hours :(06:53
pluffsythrush: hehe true. I tried doing it from the synaptic package manager, but that's exactly like apt-get:ing it from cli right?06:53
thoreauputicpluffsy: sincewhen does an Ubuntu install take two hours? Is this a slow machine?06:53
pluffsythoreauputic: sort of. powerbook g3 400MHz, 192MB RAM.06:54
thrushpluffsy, yah06:54
bwlangpluffsy: i don't think you need to reinstall just to fix dhcp...06:54
thoreauputicpluffsy: slowish, yeah06:54
bwlangcan you run dhcp manually?06:54
pluffsybwlang: what do you mean with run dhcp manually?06:54
bwlangpluffsy: dhclient -i eth0 (or whatever)06:54
djm62pluffsy: sudo dhclient ethX, where X is probably 006:55
bwlangpluffsy: no -i ... wrong dhcp client06:55
pluffsydjm62: yeah that's what I did and it said: http://sial.org/pbot/1309806:55
djm62pluffsy: what's your network like? do you have a router with dhcp?06:56
pluffsydjm62: I have an adsl modem. guess that is my dhcp server06:56
djm62ah...06:56
bwlangpluffsy: sounds like your dhcp server is a bit nonstandard...06:56
pluffsybwlang: It did work on yellow dog linux on another machine though, and it works on my macosx computer.06:57
pluffsyyellow dog linux = redhat based ppc dist.06:57
bwlangpluffsy: it's possible that you can update the firmware on that device - otherwise you'll have to grab dhcpcd or pump to see if that works.  another thought... maybe the modem is only listening for one network card (the one on your mac)06:58
bwlangbrb06:58
pluffsybwlang: but if I type in the info I get from the dhcp server on the mac into the ubuntu computer it works (for a few minutes)06:59
pluffsyarr06:59
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djm62pluffsy: try apt-getting and using pump06:59
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pluffsydjm62: I'll give it a try and hope the network works long enough for that to work. you think I should try pump before I try dhcpcd?07:00
squirrelpimpIf anyone has time, i'd like to ask a question about the current kernel in breezy.07:00
djm62pluffsy: pump's worked for me before...07:00
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pluffsydjm62: and I should type pump -i eth0 right?07:01
djm62yeah, I think so07:01
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pluffsywell. I give it a try. thanks for the help everybody. back in a while (sooner if it works :p)07:01
robotgeekubotu network-manager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto07:02
ubotu...but network-manager is already something else...07:02
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robotgeekguys, how do i override this?07:02
squirrelpimpHas anyone else experienced problems with suspend-to-disk and the current breezy-kernel? Everytime i try to suspend the display gets black, but the device does not turn off:-(07:03
DaSkreechcan I apt-get luminosity?07:03
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darkeaglewhere I get more working sources to apt/sources.list?07:03
__filip_i have install linux-dc++, but when i try to download an file i always get an error could not open target file. what is wrong?07:03
Fred|Fr3d__filip_ check the permissions of where you're downloading the file to.07:04
pc22pluffsy: hi07:04
__filip_aha.07:04
__filip_thanx07:04
Fred|Fr3dand check the avaialble disk space too07:04
Fred|Fr3dno problem07:04
Fred|Fr3davailable*07:04
robotgeekubotu networkmanager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto07:05
uboturobotgeek: okay07:05
robotgeek!networkmanager07:05
ubotusomebody said networkmanager was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto07:05
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saitrixhi, i am new to using linux, and well i wanted to double check. Will it be fine installing Ubuntu onto a spare Hdd i have installed on my pc? Also does it have a bootloader (is that what its called?)07:05
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Lethal-Rockssaitrix, Ubuntu uses GRUB bootloader by default07:06
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saitrixas i want to still use windows for games07:06
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squirrelpimpso no one using breezy here at all?07:06
Lethal-Rockssaitrix, It will find windows and add it too the list07:06
pc22how do i connect a printer from another ubuntu box?07:06
saitrixAhh thanks Lethal-Rocks. :)07:06
pc22squirrelpimp: any difference from hoary?07:07
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Lethal-Rockssaitrix, As for isnstalling it onto another HDD, that is also fine, it will still install grub only the mbr07:07
squirrelpimppc22: difference? What do you mean?07:07
__filip_Fred|Fr3d: now it work :=)07:07
pc22interface?07:07
pc22design?07:07
Fred|Fr3dcool __filip_ :)07:08
squirrelpimppc22: its the development branch, so i guess "yes"07:08
saitrixI suppose i need to format the Hdd from NTFS to FAT32?07:08
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squirrelpimppc22: has the new gnome...07:08
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k-0tiknew kernel07:08
pc22cool then07:08
k-0tikpc22, all the differences http://www.ubuntu.com/newsitems/5.10preview07:08
saitrixOh yes thats a point, anyone have an estimate to when 5.10 is coming out?07:09
pc22if i update using synaptic?07:09
thoreauputicoctober 1307:09
k-0tikoctober 107:09
k-0tik307:09
squirrelpimpso anyone else left with an idea?07:09
pc22will it change the interface too?07:09
ompaulon hoary an old wavelan-bronze worked took a minor amount of hacking - now with breezy not too happy at all07:10
ompaulnow do I go back to hoary or get a new card ....07:10
k-0tikompaul, dont 'liek breezy?07:10
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saitrixAre there decent drivers for Ati Radeon's now?07:10
MrGardenHoseMananyone know how to respond to irc's version command?07:11
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ompaulk-0tik, no, breezy is not supporting the wireless card - or the card is stuffed07:11
ompaulk-0tik, this situation is something not to be happy about07:11
thoreauputicMrGardenHoseMan: your client responds automatically - or do you mean change the response?07:11
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djm62ompaul: is it loading the same module as hoary?07:12
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MrGardenHoseManactually i just want to know how it does it, what the raw command is07:12
ompauldjm62, I think, if memory serves me correctly it wants to07:12
thoreauputicMrGardenHoseMan: /ctcp version  ?07:13
MrGardenHoseManthat easy?07:13
ompauldjm62, I remember doing some modprobing to get it going to start in the first case but nothing too mad07:13
pluffsyhmm now I'm on the ubuntu machine... I tried pump and it said operation failed, dhcpcd just returned after a while, no error msg. but my ping said network unreachable. right now I'm pinging a server every ten secs and typing in the ip data by hand. it seems to work, but I would rather have a less hacky solution.07:13
thoreauputicMrGardenHoseMan: what client are you using?07:13
MrGardenHoseManxchat07:14
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ompauldjm62,  now it auto detected but the module orinoco_cs is doing something wrong - cos it sure as *** is not loading07:14
ompaulemm let me check something07:14
thoreauputicMrGardenHoseMan: but xchat has a nice clicky thing to do that :)07:14
djm62ompaul: check the options you can pass to the module07:14
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ompauldjm62, as spock says that would be logical :)07:15
MrGardenHoseManlol yeah but i'm trying to implement the feature into a bot i'm trying to write07:15
thoreauputicMrGardenHoseMan: of course if you start versioning people you will get some grumpy responses ;)07:15
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bagginshi. i'm having some trouble getting mysql working in php4+apache2.07:15
djm62I have an ancient card that I couldn't honestly identify, but brute luck has made it work on linux 2.4, linux 2.4 ARM, and Ubuntu, with various problems,  and a different module each time :-/07:16
thoreauputicMrGardenHoseMan: most irssi commands should work OK - look at http://f0rked.com/public/irssi-docs/help-full.html#SQUERY07:16
glDaherpppoe doesn't load at boot time, I ran pppoeconf  and it still doesn't work... when I do sudo pon dsl-provider manually it works... but it doesn't auto start07:16
mkyb14ok i setup ubuntu desktop and now how do i load it?07:16
mkyb14from console07:16
__filip_i know that it is an post in ubuntuforums that say how i can make an icon and if i drag an directory then i will run that directory like root, someone know where to find it? does it work in breezy07:16
bagginsi have installed php4-mysql, but having restarted apache quite a few times, phpinfo still isn't saying it is loaded.07:16
Lethal-Rocksmkyb14, sudo gdm07:16
tiefoxhow do I install java plugin for firefox in breezy?07:16
mkyb14says gdm already running aborted07:17
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Lethal-RocksWell, do you see black or graphics?07:17
heart_reavertiefox : go to http://ubuntuguide.org07:17
djm62mkyb14: if you do ctrl-alt-f7?07:17
thoreauputicMrGardenHoseMan: also be advised that there has been much tooth-gnashing among the ops about recent bot flooding - so if you intend to bring bots you might find them being summarily banned07:18
heart_reavermplayer in gui not working07:18
tiefoxhear_reaver  sun-j2re1.5  it is not found for installation07:18
mkyb14bunch of wierd letters and "i will disable this x server for now Restart GDM when i is configured correctly07:18
ompaulMrGardenHoseMan, and then see your ip banned as well07:18
djm62mkyb14: when did it last work?07:19
MrGardenHoseManit's not for this channel07:19
heart_reavertiefox : have u upgraded ur source list as given is ubuntu guide07:19
MrGardenHoseMandon't worry :P07:19
mkyb14never07:19
djm62mkyb14: and /etc/init.d/gdm restart produces the same again?07:19
mkyb14i just did /etc/init.d/gdm restart and it loaded07:19
heart_reavermplayer in gui not working any comments07:19
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tiefoxi enabled universe and multiverse, im on breezy07:19
heart_reavermplayer in gui not working any comments07:19
djm62mkyb14: so happy happy joy joy?07:19
thoreauputicMrGardenHoseMan: not worried - a kickban is done in a fraction of a second :)07:19
MrGardenHoseManhehe07:20
mkyb14yes, now just to get things to normal seeing as the install coudn't install intrd tools or something07:20
ompaulthoreauputic, you got voice enabled there?07:20
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thoreauputicompaul: well, I'm about to turn in for the night, to be honest :)07:21
mkyb14why would ubuntu only let the screen resolution be 640x480????07:21
ompaulno worries07:21
heart_reavertiefox : breezy have broken packages n all the things ie dependency are not good so better u go back to ur previous ubuntu07:21
mkyb14it won't let me choose a higher resolution07:21
apokryphosmkyb14: because X doesn't have the drivers07:21
pluffsyhmmm should I setup my repositiories differently. because now the first time I run software update it says "my system is up to date" and well I guess there most be some security updates since 2005/0407:21
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apokryphosubotu: tell mkyb14 about resolution07:22
apokryphosthoreauputic: 'night =)07:22
robotgeek_awaythoreauputic,ompaul : do u know how to overwrite a ubotu description?07:22
thoreauputicapokryphos: 'night :)07:22
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apokryphosrobotgeek_away: yes, type "no X is <something"07:22
robotgeek_awayubotu no network-manager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto07:23
ubotuokay, robotgeek_away07:23
robotgeek_away!network-manager07:23
ubotu[network-manager]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto07:23
robotgeek_awayapokryphos: thanks07:23
heart_reavermplayer in gui not working any comments07:24
apokryphosheart_reaver: you'd have to of course give a lot more information than that07:25
djm62heart_reaver: be more descriptive: is it starting up? does plain mplayer work?07:25
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heart_reavermplayer in gui not working it says no video output but works in terminal07:25
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arachnionare there known issues about ubuntu and mysql servers? something to do with mysql.sock?07:26
djm62heart_reaver: so you can access the preferences dialogue?  gmplayer uses different preferences to mplayer, apparently07:26
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heart_reaveryes07:26
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heart_reaverdjm62: what to do for that07:27
putz_kinhuI have a problem on increasing my video resolution, anyone can help me?07:27
apokryphosputz_kinhu: state the problem07:27
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djm62heart_reaver: try different video settings in the prefs dialogue: it's probably trying to use something that your system doesn't support07:27
djm62heart_reaver: there aren't many of them, and when you've set it, you've set it07:27
heart_reaverdjm62: i had configured a lot selected most options but, no good07:27
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putz_kinhui instaled the ubuntu, and the screen was set 1280x1024 but the video was partially working, when a reduce to 1014x768 it becomes fine07:28
djm62heart_reaver: SDL is usually workable, in my experience07:28
heart_reaverdjm62: describe SDL plz07:28
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djm62heart_reaver: also, you may need to restart gmplayer for the changes to take effect: so it might have seemed like it wasn't working07:28
putz_kinhuI also tried 1152x768 but the max refrefh was 55hz T_T07:28
pluffsybtw when I put in a dvd totem automatically starts but then it quits saying couldn't create gstreamer object. that happens if I just start totem myself too.07:28
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Skajai tryed alot of things to get my 56k modem to work in ubuntu but nothing seems to work07:29
pluffsyI'm downloading 156MB updates right now, let's hope that solves it :p07:29
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heart_reaverdjm62: i had restarted after each setting configuration07:29
Skajai tryed ltmodem cant get it to install07:29
djm62pluffsy: have you done the RestrictedFormats stuff from the wiki?07:29
Skajai dont know what to do?07:30
djm62heart_reaver: can you find out what console mplayer is using?07:30
putz_kinhuapokryphos, do u know how to solve this inconveniece?07:32
djm62heart_reaver: less /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf07:32
x-perthey07:32
x-perti have a printer in my pc07:32
x-pertand in hte other pc with linux ubuntu07:32
x-perte sent something to print in this pc07:33
x-pert(by a local network - router)07:33
x-pertthe documents appear in the printing list07:33
x-pertbut they do bnot print07:33
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heart_reaverdjm62: i had read n modifed some of conf file but no good for gui07:33
x-pertcan the problem have to do with anything else but the printer?07:33
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apokryphosputz_kinhu: what do you mean by "partially working"?07:33
mkyb14ok i have a visiontek g-card but can't find it on the supported list ... visiontek model NV996.007:33
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mkyb14i know it's a 32mb card07:33
apokryphosx-pert: not a good idea to flood the channel.07:33
djm62heart_reaver: the conf for the gui is separate, in ~/.mplayer/gui.conf07:34
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Skajais there a help page for ubuntu07:34
x-pertsorry07:34
putz_kinhuapokryphos, seems that is raining inseide the screen.....07:34
heart_reaverok07:34
djm62heart_reaver: make that match the config which works for normal mplayer, and you should be sorted07:34
apokryphosputz_kinhu: your monitor definitely supports 1280?07:34
putz_kinhuyes, i use that resolution on windows XP07:35
djm62heart_reaver: vo_driver=........07:35
putz_kinhuand i use 1152x768 with 70 hz too07:35
pluffsydjm62: right. haven't done that yet. but I guess totem should atleast be able to start without that?07:35
pluffsydjm62: it crashes when I just launches it without trying to open anything07:36
apokryphosputz_kinhu: what refresh rate on 1280?07:36
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mkyb14if i have 32mb how many kb is that ???? its asking07:36
putz_kinhuapokryphos, lemme see07:36
djm62pluffsy: in my experience totem is quite crashy, but some people rave about it :-/07:36
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putz_kinhuapokryphos, 60HZ on 128007:36
apokryphosmkyb14: 1 megabyte = 1000 kilobytes07:36
apokryphosputz_kinhu: what inch monitor? Sounds ok.07:37
djm623276807:37
mkyb14thought it was 102407:37
mkyb14=mb07:37
putz_kinhuapokryphos, LG  T710SH07:37
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ofer0hi07:37
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ofer0how can i change my local ip?07:37
putz_kinhuapokryphos, LG  T710SH 17''07:37
apokryphosputz_kinhu: weird. It *should* be ok.07:38
Skajai tryed alot of things to get my 56k modem to work in ubuntu but nothing seems to work07:38
KiraHello, has anybody been able to setup a PPPoE connection over WiFi in Ubuntu?07:38
djm62Skaja: is it a winmodem?07:38
mkyb14?07:38
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djm62Skaja: it might be a lost cause :(07:38
apokryphosputz_kinhu: what card?07:38
Skajait supports linux i dont know07:38
putz_kinhuapokryphos, GeForco4 mx440 128mb agp8x07:39
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heart_reaverdjm62: error is like : Error opening/initializing the selected video_output(-vo) device07:39
erchachehi07:39
apokryphosputz_kinhu: got the nvidia drivers installed?07:39
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djm62heart_reaver: even when you make it match the one that works for plain mplayer?07:39
erchachehow i can install truetype fonts without x.org files dependences?07:39
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awormusanyone want to hold the hand of a n00b in setting up his laptop's wifi?07:39
erUSULofer0: man ifconfig ;) ifconfig eth0 x.x.x.x should do07:39
apokryphosubotu: tell awormus about wifi07:40
putz_kinhuapokryphos, in my conf semms to be detected my videocard and my monitor correctly07:40
heart_reaverdjm62: how to do that match07:40
apokryphosputz_kinhu: you could have problems if you didn't specifically install the nvidia drivers, though.07:40
apokryphosubotu: tell putz_kinhu about nvidia07:40
Skajai went to my modem faq page07:41
djm62heart_reaver: as a normal user, gedit ~/.mplayer/gui.conf07:41
ofer0erUSUL, i want to do it thru a GUI, because i kinda know all the manpages for "route" and "ifconfig". i read it 200 times and i just cant do it from there. btw i want to do some more things like adding a different gateway, changing subnet mask and more changes that will be a headache in command line.07:41
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djm62and make vo_driver match the one in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf07:41
putz_kinhuapokryphos, the i have to install nvidia drivers07:41
epI had to kill a 3d game and now my screen resolution is  hosed.  How can I reset it to the default value. (KDE btw).07:41
apokryphosputz_kinhu: eh?07:41
kangpehI'm using Breezy and Evolution won't show my IMAP inbox contents.  It shows the other folders in the IMAP account, but no files in the Inbox show.07:41
djm62ep: start another 3d game and exit it normally?07:42
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djm62or ctrl-alt-f1 ctrl-alt-f707:42
heart_reaverdjm62: :P ok thanks07:42
heart_reaverdjm62: :P ok thanks07:42
pc22kde or gnome?07:42
erUSULofer0: System -> Administration -> Network i thought this will be the first you've tried07:42
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putz_kinhuapokryphos, i 'll try this one thanks for your time07:43
Deterministgood evening07:43
ofer0erUSUL, can you please check if this is what im looking for? i am using windows from another computer because i cant connect to the internet in ubuntu07:43
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epctrl-alt-f1 and f7 doesn't change the resolution.  I'll try method starting a 3d game07:43
Flying-Penguinwhat is a good program for editing my gnome pannles?07:43
ofer0erUSUL, i need to change my ip and gateway.. these are my main problems07:43
djm62Flying-Penguin: other than right-clicking on some free panel space and editing it?07:44
Skajawho uses ltmodem with ubuntu 5.0407:44
ephmm thats not working either.   Its like the 3d game restores it to whatever it was upon startup07:44
erUSULofer0: not really i'm connected with modem (ppp0) configured with pppconfig07:45
epThis is a home machine, i can always reboot, but thats not the linux way:)07:45
KillerBOBhi all, I have a question: I've been away from my ubunru hoary since sunday, and now I have a lot of X-related updates available. I first upgraded all of them and it broke my X =( It even gave errors when running apt-get07:45
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erchachehow i can install truetype fonts without X.org? apt install x.org like a dependence07:45
pr0tocolhey all whats going on07:46
KillerBOBluckily i had a recent backup, so my system is up and running again =)07:46
kangpehI'm using Breezy and Evolution won't show my IMAP inbox contents.  It shows the other folders in the IMAP account, but no files in the Inbox show.07:46
pr0tocolI have a quick question:07:46
Flying-Penguindjm62: yes... I saw someone say one befor07:46
ephow do I shutdown and restart X without rebooting?07:46
k-0tikkilllerbob what do you use to backup yoru system?07:46
pr0tocolI just upgraded to Breezy yesterday and X won't start anymore...tells me something about "same driver version"07:46
KillerBOBk-0tik, I used a full disk-image backup with acronis true image07:47
djm62ep: either ctrl-alt-backspace or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart07:47
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k-0tikcool07:47
pr0tocolany ideas guys?07:47
pr0tocolIs there a problem with the nvidia drivers in Breezy?07:48
KillerBOBk-0tik, I wanted to use mondo for backups, but it gave me some trouble =( btw, mondo is open.source while Acronis is not =(07:48
k-0tikyae i see that07:48
apokryphospr0tocol: they tend to work, but there's still a few problems with renderaccel in xorg I take it.07:48
Skajai looked at all of the docs i can find07:48
k-0tiki was just looking aound for a good backup system07:48
djm62Skaja: read this page http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21312.html07:48
apokryphospr0tocol: they have generally been working for most days though07:48
djm62Skaja: read it all before you do stuff, but it looks like it might be your modem07:48
KillerBOBSo, is it only me who is having major trouble with the latest libx* and xlib* packages with Hoary?07:49
pr0tocolapokryphos: yea, but in my case, X won't start at all.  Tells me something about the kernel module and nvidia driver being the same version07:49
pr0tocolso...I'm stuck using the console :P07:49
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apokryphospr0tocol: hm. Have you tried reconfiguring your X?07:49
pc22how do i mount my other partition?07:50
Skajai looked at that once it confuses me07:50
pr0tocolapokryphos: hmm...how07:50
djm62pr0tocol: you could use the free nvidia drivers as a stopgap... nv?07:50
apokryphospr0tocol: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:50
apokryphospc22: what filesystem? fat/ntfs ?07:50
pr0tocolhmm okee07:50
pc22fat07:50
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apokryphos!windowsdrives07:50
ubotuwindowsdrives is, like, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically07:50
pr0tocoldjm62: what do you mean?07:50
apokryphospc22: check that link; you can use it and it will do it all automatically for you.07:51
pc22thanks07:51
djm62pr0tocol: oh, damn.  are you using an nvidia card?07:51
Skajai can see my modem in the place it all of the hardware07:51
pr0tocoldjm62: yup07:52
AzMooCan Totem do subtitles?07:52
Flying-Penguinhow would I make imwheel start with my computer?07:52
Flying-Penguinwhat do I edit07:52
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djm62pr0tocol: there are official binary drivers, which you need to compile against your kernel (so they match).  or there are community-maintained drivers (which will work, but aren't as good as the official nvidia ones in terms of speed)07:53
pr0tocoldamn07:53
pr0tocolthis sucks ass07:53
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apokryphospr0tocol: did you try what I said?07:53
neirasHello - I cannot get X to start under Breezy. The error is 'default font 'fixed' not found', but all my font paths are correct. What's going on?07:53
apokryphosneiras: same for you -- have you tried reconfiguring your X?07:54
neirasYes, no luck at all07:54
Flying-Penguinwhat do I edit to make things start with X?07:54
neirasI've reinstalled X, stripped my system down to ubuntu-minimal and reinstalled everything07:54
pr0tocolapokryphos: yup07:55
pr0tocolapokryphos: same problem07:55
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apokryphospr0tocol: can you pastebin the error output, then?07:55
djm62pr0tocol: you could get the nvidia drivers and do the jigging, or use the Free ones and wait for a package or Breezy-Nvidia-howto to appear07:55
pr0tocolhmm07:55
neirasWhat's weird is, my other two boxes upgraded to Breezy without a hitch07:55
pr0tocolI might just use the standard nv drivers rather than nvidia...07:55
pr0tocolthink that will work?07:56
apokryphosnv aren't really the "standard" drivers07:56
lsuactiafneruse vesa not nv07:56
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pr0tocolvesa...07:56
apokryphosit's worth having a go with them or another generic driver if that doesn't work07:56
pr0tocolhmm07:56
pr0tocolbrb07:56
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pr0tocolnothing is working...07:58
pr0tocol*sigh*07:58
pr0tocolthis is going to take forever07:58
theShtormanyone knows how to change that annoying welcome message when connecting via ssh?  doesn't look like its comming from .bashrc07:58
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neirastheShtorm: /etc/motd?07:59
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Skajai'm going to try my other modems07:59
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pr0tocolwhat does it mean when it says "Unable to find a valid framebuffer device"?08:00
theShtormneiras: yup, thanks08:00
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[Wiebel] hello :)08:00
neirasDoes anyone know where the default 'fixed' font for X is? is it a type1, a 100dpi or 75dpi...?08:00
djm62theShtorm: or /etc/issue /etc/issue.net08:01
pr0tocolanyone?08:01
Answerpr0tocol: what are you trying to do...08:02
djm62no, scratch that08:02
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pr0tocolAnswer: trying to get X to work :P08:02
djm62neiras: for X? or for gnome etc?  Xresources08:03
Answer!x08:03
ubotux is, like, the Linux GUI system. You can find it at http://www.x.org08:03
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pr0tocolAnswer: umm... yea.  I know what X is...the question is, how do I get it up and running again?08:03
Answerpr0tocol: undid whatever you broke.08:04
neirasdjm62: Yes, for X08:04
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Lethal-Rockspr0tocol, And then run either gdm or kdm as root ;)08:04
neirasdjm62: I'm stuck in text mode at the moment08:04
djm62neiras: /etc/X11/Xresources, or your own .Xresources file, and the config is fairly hairy08:04
pr0tocolAnswer: that would actually be downgrading back to Hoary (which I wouldn't mind doing); but I don't know how to do that :\08:04
neirasdjm62: X can't find the fixed font so I can't start it08:04
djm62oh08:04
djm62neiras: so you don't really want to do customisation, you just want it to work?08:05
CryptidI downloaded mlDonkey but after installation i cant find it ne where what do i do08:05
neirasdjm62: Yes. Strangely, all my font paths appear to be correct08:05
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darkheartCryptid Try typing 'killall gnome-panel' in a console.08:05
djm62neiras: did something go wrong with the install? or was it working, and then it broke?08:05
crtrhow can I delete a directory ?08:05
Cryptiddarkheart what will thst do08:05
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crtrrm -d  ?08:06
darkheartCryptid Restart your gnome-panel and reload the menus.08:06
neirasdjm62: THe install went fine (a dist-upgrade to breezy)08:06
djm62neiras: oh...08:06
darkheartcrtr rm -r08:06
Cryptidok08:06
pr0tocolIt's sad that vesa nor nv won't work either..lmao08:06
neirasdjm62: But then X didn't come up on reboot, so here I am08:06
djm62neiras: is it a known breezy bug of the day?08:06
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darkheartcrtr You can find info on a command using 'man' so 'man rm' gives you the options.08:06
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pr0tocolhey darkheart, wassup08:07
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darkheartpr0tocol Hey, what's up08:07
crtr10q08:07
neirasdjm62: I can't tell, I'm stuck in a text console.08:07
AnswerQuestion: Is there a command line IRC program?08:07
djm62neiras: apt-get install links08:07
pr0tocoldarkheart: lmao, well besides this X problem, nothing much really.  Back to the old days of using console for now till I can get X up and running again :>08:08
arachnionAnswer,08:08
djm62Answer: apt-get install irssi08:08
arachnionyes08:08
pr0tocolAnswer: yup. irssi08:08
pr0tocoland BitchX08:08
AnswerThanks: irssi a console irc client08:08
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Answer!irssi08:08
ubotuirssi is probably http://f0rked.com/core/irssi08:08
djm62neiras: links is a good command line web browser08:08
neirasdjm62: Yeah, fired it up and am browsing around08:08
darkheartpr0tocol Hehe, that's why I don't bother upgrading until a stable release comes out ;)08:08
pr0tocoldjm62: kind of a headache after a while :>08:08
pr0tocoldarkheart: you know anything about 'downgrading'?08:09
Krnekihay guz how do i install tcl on ubuntu08:09
djm62pr0tocol: I find it kind of nice...doesn't keep me off firefox, right enough08:09
Answerpr0tocol: reboot from the hoary install cd08:09
arachnionhello everyone, having problems getting my mysql server started, apparently I need to edit permissions on gateway 11308:09
arachnionhow do I do that?08:09
Cryptidis there a Basic compiler for ubuntu08:09
pr0tocolAnswer: and do what? re-install Hoary?08:09
ubu_noobhi guys im trying to mount a windows ntfs partition so i can view its contents in ubuntu.  I used the commands mkdir /mnt/myxp and then /mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/myxp but it does not seem to be working.08:09
darkheartpr0tocol Hehe, not something you want to do really...just end up breaking more things. What's the error that you get anyway?08:09
djm62Cryptid: do you have existing code? or do you just want to use basic?08:10
pr0tocoldjm62: it's not bad using console. MEMOOORIES :D Plus it makes me feel l337 again lol08:10
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Krnekihow to install tcl08:10
darkheartubu_noob /mount ins't a command.08:10
ubu_noobnot /mount   just sudo mount08:10
Cryptidi have a .BAS file that i want to compile08:10
ubu_noobsorry08:10
darkheartubu_noob It's gonna be something like 'mount -t ntfs /dev/sda5 /mnt/myxp'08:10
pr0tocoldarkheart: something about the kernel version and the nvidia module not being the same version08:10
djm62pr0tocol: mpg321 Matrix_Soundtrack/* &08:10
Cryptiddjm62, i have a .BAS file that i want to compile08:10
darkheartpr0tocol There aren't any nvidia packages you can upgrade as well?08:10
Answernvidia-glz08:10
Answernvidia-glx08:10
Answer!nvidia-glz08:11
ubotuAnswer: Are you on ritalin?08:11
Answer!nvidia-glx08:11
ubotuAnswer: Do they come in packets of five?08:11
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pr0tocoldjm62: lol. I'm listening to Voodoo People - Eskimo remix :P08:11
pr0tocoldarkheart: nope.08:11
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erUSULCryptid: try gambas but i doubt you can compile a win *.bas in linux08:11
pr0tocoldarkheart: As a matter of fact, Breezy I think upgraded it and messed it up08:11
DaSkreechDoes apt-get work with Dial up?08:11
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pr0tocolDaSkreech: yup08:12
djm62Cryptid: I don't think it's going to happen08:12
tagDaSkreech: yes, slowly08:12
AnswerDaSkreech: does naything work with dialup08:12
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pr0tocolDaSkreech: it's going to be veeeery slow,though08:12
tagDaSkreech: no reason it wouldn't08:12
erUSULCryptid: you'll have to rewritte the thing08:12
djm62DaSkreech: apt-zip if you have a faster connection on another machine08:12
erUSULDaSkreech: yes why not?08:12
darkheartpr0tocol Ouch >< If no one can help you with that in here, I guess best bet is to reinstall hoary. Shouldn't be too painful.08:12
Cryptidis there a P2P application like Limewire for ubuntu08:13
djm62pr0tocol: if you can back up $HOME, a hoary install is only an hour...you've spent half of that in IRC already08:13
Answerhah08:13
Answerwoulda been done by now08:13
ofer0guys please help.. i forgot the name of the program that can change my gateway and local ip address =\08:13
erUSULCryptid: yes Limewire is in java and crossplataform08:13
DaSkreechMy Friend is trying it over dial up and it doesn't seem to be seeing anything08:13
djm62Cryptid: LimeWire has a notable similarity to LimeWire08:13
Answerofer0: man ifconfig     man iwconfig08:13
pr0tocoldarkheart: ummm no thanks.  i have tons of work/code saved up on this biatch.  And I'll wait forever till I can fix this thing08:13
ofer0guys please help.. i forgot the name of the program that can change my gateway and local ip address =\ its a gnome program.. something like gnome-network-admin08:13
Answerofer0: man ifconfig     man iwconfig      don't spam :)08:14
djm62ofer0: System->Administration->Networking08:14
Cryptiddjm62 "LimeWire has a notable similarity to LimeWire".Huh?08:14
djm62Cryptid: it runs on linux08:14
pr0tocolcan I just wait for the stable release, THEN do a dist-upgrade now?08:14
darkheartpr0tocol Hehe, well, I set up my systems so that /home is a separate partition, that way, if anything messes up, I just have to back up my /etc dir (if i want to system settings) and then just reinstall and don't format /home...almost like nothing happened.08:14
ofer0Answer: i wasnt spamming. i added something. anyway: ifconfig cant change my gateway.. thanx anyway08:14
neiraswhat are "defoma" fonts?08:15
ubu_noobHow do i unmount an ntfs partition?08:15
Answer!umount08:15
ubotuAnswer: Did you get hit by a windmill?08:15
Answerman umount08:15
ofer0djm62: can you please enter this program and tell me what its name?08:15
tagneiras: defoma is the debian font manager08:15
erUSULDaSkreech: i do everyting over dialup08:15
darkheartpr0tocol That was 'if i want to *save* system settings'08:15
Cryptiddjm62, can i get in syanptic or on its official site(limewire site)08:15
apokryphosAnswer: better to investigate with the bot in /msg08:15
pr0tocoldarkheart: If Im not mistaken, I think I too keep /home in a seperate partition08:15
Answerapokryphos: but then the bot makers wouldnt know what I want implemented.08:15
apokryphosubotu: tell Cryptid about limewire08:15
darkheartpr0tocol Check your /etc/fstab, it will tell you.08:15
djm62Cryptid: get it in the official site, then add a shortcut icon to the panel and forget about it08:16
ubu_noobOnce mounted, how do i view the mounted partition... its not showing on my desktop08:16
apokryphosAnswer: everyone can contribute to the bot's knowledge08:16
apokryphosAnswer: /msg ubotu help08:16
pr0tocolyup08:16
mirakhi08:16
pr0tocoldarkheart: it's on another partition :P08:16
mirakis jbailey around ?08:16
darkheartpr0tocol Well, all your personal files should be stored there (unless you have a strange fetish of leaving your files in inappropriate places on the system)08:17
djm62ofer0: gnome-network-preferences08:17
darkheartpr0tocol And all (most) of the system settings are in /etc if you want to back that up.08:17
Centaur5What is a good program to use to play dvd's?08:17
pr0tocoldarkheart: I've been linux'ing for 5 years... I'm not THAT dumb..hehehe08:17
apokryphosubu_noob: make a shortcut to it if you want it on the desktop08:17
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darkheartpr0tocol If you do decide to reinstall, just make *sure* you dont' format your /home partition.08:17
erUSULCentaur5: xine08:17
djm62Centaur5: vlc has menu support and is generally nice08:17
darkheartpr0tocol Hehe okay, didn't know that.08:17
ubu_noobIt says i do not have access to view the file contents08:17
djm62Centaur5: they're all free, try before you buy08:17
darkheartpr0tocol Sometimes hanging out in this channel my perception of others' linux skills is skewed.08:18
Centaur5haha, I'll try them out then08:18
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pr0tocoldarkheart: as I said. I might just wait till the *stable* version of breezy is released and just run an apt-get upgrade thingy08:18
Centaur5thanks, the default program in ubuntu doesn't work08:18
DaSkreechWhen he tries to apt-get install anythign over dial up he gets these two errors08:18
djm62ubotu tell Centaur5 about RestrictedFormats08:18
DaSkreechPackage lynx is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:19
DaSkreechThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or08:19
DaSkreechis only available from another source08:19
pr0tocoldarkheart: it's not that I don't have "linux skills", it's just when you try to work on a problem so much, and you can't get it, it's always best to ask around.08:19
feugan3333Hi all. I'm having a problem with xmms, it just hangs as soon as I try to play an mp3. Any suggestions?08:19
DaSkreechE: Package lynx has no installation candidate08:19
darkheartpr0tocol =) that's an idea...you just gonna work in the console the whole time?08:19
DaSkreechOh08:19
DaSkreechDIdn't know it would do that08:19
darkheartDaSkreech Don't paste in here.08:19
DaSkreechSorry08:19
djm62!RestrictedFormats08:19
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'08:19
DaSkreechIt was one line08:19
darkheartDaSkreech Haha np.08:19
pr0tocoldarkheart: doesn't bother me any.  I have irc, mpg123, vim and the links08:19
pr0tocolwhat else do I need? ;)08:19
apokryphosDaSkreech: no, it was more than that.08:19
[Wiebel] hmm08:19
erUSULDaSkreech: this error have nothing to do with dial up the package does not exist08:20
feugan3333Thanks08:20
DaSkreechI changed it to x08:20
darkheartpr0tocol Hehe, I can only take so much text web browsing =P everything else is fine though.08:20
[Wiebel] there is an issue with totem, if a video stream exists out of more then one stream, only the first one is played08:20
DaSkreechany package he tries will return that08:20
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AnswerDaSkreech:  apt-get update08:20
DaSkreechDoesn't work08:21
DaSkreechIt just returns done08:21
erUSULDaSkreech: a problem with repos? apt-get update?08:21
AnswerDaSkreech: are you sure you're connected?  apt-get update    should check repos08:21
erUSUL!tell DaSkreech about repos08:21
djm62wow, breezy sounds pretty hirsute considering it's one month 'til release08:22
DaSkreechWell he's online talking to me now08:22
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Krnekihay can i ask something is there possiblie if i do DMZ on my linux ubuntu server that this server will send all connection to 4321 port to one other pc in mz home network08:22
pr0tocoldarkheart: meh, doesn't bother me any.08:22
apokryphosSeems to be a lot less stable than hoary was at this time, unfortunately.08:22
pr0tocoldarkheart: I say that every linux noob should start off with the console if they wanna learn Linux08:22
tearwhats the command to update my get lists?08:22
pr0tocolimo08:23
DaSkreechtear: apt-get update08:23
Answer!apt-get08:23
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/08:23
kangpeh!evolution broken inbox imap08:23
ubotukangpeh: I don't know, could you explain it?08:23
djm62pr0tocol: I did that08:24
darkheartpr0tocol Yeah, I think so as well, the problem with some people though is that they just want Linux to work.08:24
DaSkreechAnswer: Maybe he should deactivate the network card?08:24
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tearthanks08:24
djm62pr0tocol: I worked out ctrl-alt-f1...and had to learn how to install links and use links to find out how to ctrl-alt-f7 :-/08:24
darkheartpr0tocol Don't really care about learning08:24
tearbrain standstill08:24
pr0tocoldarkheart: yup.  Right now, like I said, I can give two craps about X.  It would be NICE don't get me wront, but I don't mind working in console08:24
pr0tocoldjm62: lol08:25
Krnekican anyone at least answer me08:25
djm62that was back in the day...08:25
pr0tocolthe great thing about console is the ctrl-alt-F buttons...08:25
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pr0tocolcommands***08:25
erUSULKrneki: yes i use firehol to set up iptables you can use this or firstarter or shorewall08:25
mik3are there any other wysiwyg html editors other than nvu?08:25
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erUSULKrneki: google arround about NAT and forwarding with iptables08:26
djm62mik3: yes...linux magazine has a feature on them, I'll just grab it08:26
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pr0tocolbrb08:27
AnswerQuestion: Why won't freenx show up in Synaptic (yes all repositories selected)08:28
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michelehello08:28
DaSkreechHI08:28
DaSkreechHmm disabling the network card doesnt work08:28
michelesince yesterday's upgrade X slowed down to a crawl...08:29
djm62mik3: mozilla composer, Bluefish, Quanta08:29
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mik3bluefish is not wysiwyg08:30
apokryphosneither is Quanta08:30
apokryphoswysiwyg is a waste of time IMO. Just learn the code; it's not hard.08:30
erUSULnor quanta afaik08:30
djm62mik3: damn, and composer is closely related to nvu08:30
mik3uh, i didn't ask for your opinion08:30
djm62mik3: sorry, had a very quick scan of it "html editors rundown"08:31
apokryphosmik3: so?08:31
michelethe only suspicious message is: (WW) RADEON(0): Failed to set up write-combining range (0xc0000000,0x4000000)08:31
apokryphosmik3: I'm hardly going to wait for your approval before I make statements in here.08:31
mik3apokryphos : i'll go ahead and file whatever you have to say henceforth under "who gives a fuck"08:31
reiki_workfile mine too then... wysiwyg is a huge waste of time08:31
mik3thanks djm6208:32
djm62wow, the wyswig world is fraught these days08:32
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apokryphosmik3: language..08:32
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mik3is mozilla composer wysiwyg?08:33
mik3nvu seems to have problems running on my box08:33
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djm62cuneAform for firefox is listed as wsywig, but html is inherently not a wyswig language, so ymmv08:33
october:(08:33
survivorHey folks. I have an old PC I want to use as router, fax receiver etc., running mostly without a monitor08:33
erUSULmik3: yes sort of. nvu is a fork of composer08:33
octoberMy wireless card keeps locking up...08:33
octoberI just got (in dmesg)  mtrr: no more MTRRs available08:33
survivorCan I plugin a screen, configure everything using all the nice UI, and then run it in some sort of server mode?08:34
octoberis that bad?08:34
survivorto get rid of the GNOME overhead.08:34
djm62survivor: /etc/init.d/gdm stop08:34
reiki_workI've been writing web pages since before there were even pictures on the web. I've seen and tried lots of wysiwyg editors. There is not one that writes clean code. There isn't one that can do CSS positioning and get it right. Basically wysiwyg editors for teh web are for those who don't know what they're doing and should probably have someone else doing it for them. Sorry if that's not a...08:34
tearshouldn't VLC be found in Synaptic?08:34
reiki_work...popular opinion with some, but it IS based on a long history and experience08:34
reiki_workand I'll shut up again for another hour or so :)08:34
Answersurvivor: you can press ALT+F1 to login in text mode ?08:35
survivorAnother question, can I use the live version for that purpose? Because I only have a 80MB one left ^^08:35
mik3well nvu can't find my mozilla run-time environment but i'm trying a reinstall before i seek other alternatives08:35
apokryphostear: if you have universe enabled ,then yes.08:35
survivor(For a dedicated router)08:35
tearthat would be true *scratches the empty ball on shoulders*08:35
mik3reiki: it's relivant to someone who doesn't care to learn html or css alike08:35
djm62survivor: you might be better with a dedicated router liveCD08:35
survivorIt'd be cool if I could plug in a monitor, do all the settings then have it automatically boot into server mode08:35
reiki_workmik3: ok... you have a valid point there08:35
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djm62mik3: alternatively openoffice and abiword both save as html, but they're not webdesign tools08:36
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djm62they support links, images, etc08:36
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djm62beyond that, I don't know08:36
iratsu_shouldn't I be able to get more than a 640x480 resolution with the collowing video card?: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device08:37
mik3yeah this is for a personal web page, messing with openoffice for html annoyed me with aligning stuff08:37
JairunCalothyea08:37
JairunCalothmt08:37
apokryphosubotu: tell iratsu_ about resolution08:37
TodFlandersiratsu not sure that specific card but have you ever gotten better on a different os?08:38
mik3my entire web page is basicly text based except for the graphic on the main page08:38
iratsu_TodFlanders: yes08:38
erUSULiratsu_: my wild guess is yes ;)08:38
djm62mik3: also in this magazine, the gimp is mentioned, with something called py-slice.  might be worth a google08:38
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TodFlandersyeah you probably need to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:38
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iratsu_i'm running ubuntu from livecd right now and all i can get is 640x480;08:38
mik3yah <3 gimp08:38
LeaChimI don't seem to have any parallel port devices like /dev/parport0 - where have they gone, and how do i get them back?08:39
iratsu_TodFlanders: hmm in what way?08:39
octoberI know this isn't a specific question.  But I need help debugging why my wireless card just stopped working on my laptop:  dv4150us (HP)  internal wireless 80211g08:39
apokryphosiratsu_: check the link ubotu gave you08:39
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mik3have they released any plugins for gimp for free?08:39
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octoberI've tried /etc/init.d/networking stop and start   and it doesn't come back.   if I reboot, it's fine.08:39
JairunCalothWell for the first time in a couple of days, GMD and X ran without any problems on boot up. I went online and got my info for my moniter so it would run properly and ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. After I was done with that I pressed ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X, but it didn't want to come back up. I had to type startx to make x run again.08:39
djm62mik3: yeah...all of them that I know of08:39
topylimik3: all of them i guess :)08:39
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djm62mik3: but py-slice gets distributed with the gimp, I think08:40
LeaChimI don't seem to have any parallel port devices like /dev/parport0 - where have they gone, and how do i get them back?08:40
mik3djm62 : solid. are they listed in the apt-cache?08:40
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survivorWatching ubuntu live boot on a P200 64MB RAM 2x CDROM is fun btw08:40
stimpackanyone know how to get x-chat to register my name quicker? get kicked to #ubuntu-unregged about 0.2secs before it registers =/08:41
survivorw/o swap HD, of course08:41
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Belutzsurvivor: what's the fun?08:41
topylianyone hacked the logitech media keyboard yet? i'd hate to have to write XKB rules for it myself :)08:41
TodFlandersiratsu_ just curious are you using a lcd screen?08:41
erUSULdjm62: yes it is08:41
survivorIt08:41
djm62mik3: the gimp is, I doubt that other plugins are packaged...google knows far more than me at this stage :-/08:41
survivor's booting for over an hour now08:41
Belutzsurvivor: really?08:41
survivoruntil I have the brown background that I thought was the desktop08:41
survivorbut for the last 10 minutes, the screen went black again08:41
survivormaybe the part about "128 MB minimum" in the desc was true08:42
survivor:)08:42
Belutzic ic08:42
Belutz:)08:42
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djm62no need....08:42
apokryphosdjm62: it really actually depends. Some have been fine on it for at least a couple weeks now.08:43
topylidjm62: did you find out for yourself? :)08:43
apokryphosgeneral consensus is that it's still a little risky wth things.08:43
apokryphos(main problems coming from X)08:43
djm62apokryphos: I could run it, but I don't have the time and inclination to fix stuff.  I appreciate Ubuntu Just Working ;)08:43
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feugan3333Do ubuntu packages stored in a deb format?08:44
TodFlandersive been good on breezy for the last 2 or so weeks , only seen a few bugs08:44
djm62feugan3333: yes08:44
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feugan3333djm62: Is the deb file kept for every package that I install. Is so where are these files located?08:45
feugan3333s/Is so/If so/08:45
LeaChimI don't seem to have any parallel port devices like /dev/parport0 - where have they gone, and how do i get them back?08:45
mik3how is upgrading to breezy beneficial to a typical end user?08:45
apokryphosfeugan3333: debs from apt are put in /var/cache/apt/archives/08:45
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feugan3333apokryphos: thanks08:46
apokryphosmik3: new features, updated apps etc08:46
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topylimik3: as long as it's unstable, there is no real benefit that outweighs the potential hassle08:46
TodFlandersthe typical end user should wait till the final release :) it just has a few more features and better support for drivers, but at current stage it may be a headache to get working08:46
occy:(08:47
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feugan3333breezy using the same kernel?08:47
mik3when is it's official release date ?08:47
apokryphosfeugan3333: no, 2.6.1208:47
TodFlandersabout 1 month08:47
iratsu_is there a website which lists the horizontal and vertical sync rates of most monitors?08:47
apokryphosmik3: /topic08:47
TodFlandersiratsu_ was that a lcd?08:48
feugan3333I think the new kernel will be better for amd/nvidia users.08:48
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Dr_Willisiratsu,  thers a X modeline generator site taht I use a lot - google for it.08:48
iratsu_TodFlanders: no08:48
apokryphosiratsu_: if you went for the "advanced" option there in the x reconfiguration, it's probably better sticking with the medium (which you'd no doubt know)08:48
Cryptiddoes ne body know codecs that support .m4a and .avi .mov files08:48
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erUSULfeugan3333: why you think that?08:48
apokryphosubotu: tell Cryptid about w32codecs08:48
TodFlanderscryptid you on 32 bit ubuntu? if so install w32codecs08:48
Dr_Willisavi files can use many codecs08:49
CryptidDr_Willis which is the best codec available08:49
iratsu_apokryphos: ok i found the rates, should i still use the medium option?08:49
bobbydDr_Willis, same with .mov files, they're both just containers08:49
apokryphosiratsu_: probably better in most cases.08:49
bobbydCryptid, depends what ou mean by *best* :)08:49
feugan3333erUSUL: When compiling the Nvidia driver on AMD64 it give out warning that the driver may be unstable and suggests upgrading to kernel 2.6.11.08:50
Cryptidbobbyd, *besy*=good video rendering08:50
survivorOh well... booting for almost two hours now... I think I'll stop the P200 experiment :D08:50
erUSULfeugan3333: ther is a 2.6.11 in universe for hoary...08:50
feugan3333erUSUL: I didn't know that. Cool08:51
feugan3333survivor: how much ram?08:52
survivor64mb08:52
survivorno hd08:52
erUSULfeugan3333: apt-cache search 2.6.1108:52
feugan3333erUSUL: Thanks08:52
topylisurvivor: you can run fluxbox at most08:52
TodFlandersquick question, can you remove the unneeded xorg drivers? when i select remove it wants to remove xserver-xorg08:52
feugan3333survivor: you booting from the live CD?08:53
erUSULTodFlanders: /me thinks not08:53
topylisurvivor: as long as you don't run any applications :)08:53
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LeaChimI don't seem to have any parallel port devices like /dev/parport0 - where have they gone, and how do i get them back?08:53
AnswerQuestion: Anybody done Cisco EAP-FAST authentication in linux ?08:53
TodFlanders:( i thought so , just a pain to have to update them when i never use them since i dont have the best web connection. thatnks for comfirming my assumption :)08:54
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JairunCalothwhere might I find my nvidia driver readme?08:55
Dr_WillisCryptid,  there is no best...  it all depends.08:55
AnswerJairunCaloth:  locate nvidia08:55
DaSkreechWhat would cause some keys to stop working under Ubuntu? Keymaps?08:56
JairunCaloththanks08:56
iratsu_I can't even get to 24 of depth; I get the following error: (EE) I810(0): No Video BIOS modes for chosen depth.08:56
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pescoHi, I've installed a bunch of font packages, xfonts-artwiz for instance, and the fonts don't show up in X. What gives?08:57
TodFlandersdaskrech what keys? like multimedia keys or letters?08:57
DaSkreechTodFlanders: Right shift and right alt08:57
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TodFlandersoh yeah keymap is all i can think about havent ever had a problem with it myself, just the play and stop multimedia keys, sorry maybe someone else can help08:58
mik3mike@splinter:/opt/nvu-1.0$ nvu08:58
mik3Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting.08:58
mik3mike@splinter:/opt/nvu-1.0$08:58
mik3wtf08:58
mik3heh08:58
mik3annoying08:58
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topyliis there a way to have both usplash and a high resolution framebuffer console? i saw a tutorial that adviced to remove any vga line from the kernel options08:59
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LeaChim*please* can someone help me. i have no parallel port devices, and i don't know how to get them09:00
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michelemik3, I think you have to set $MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to something reasonable, and I bet this is documented09:00
mdma-Yo.09:00
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Sionidegrr stupid unregged chan09:01
vladuz976anybody here know much about cvs and can help me out?09:01
Answer!cvs09:01
uboturumour has it, cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/09:01
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iratsu_should Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device be using the i810 driver?09:01
feugan3333Anyone know how to get the exact source used to build a package (eg xmms). I know about apt-get source  , but I'm not sure if I need to still apply the patches or is this done as part of the apt source process?09:01
mdma-!single user mode09:01
ubotumdma-: Did you get hit by a windmill?09:01
mdma-!, single09:01
ubotumdma-: Are you smoking crack?09:01
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Answer!tell mdma- about ubotu09:02
Answer!tell mdma- about commands09:02
mdma-!help09:02
mdma-Thanks.09:02
LeaChim*please* can someone help me. i have no parallel port devices, and i don't know how to get them09:02
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abarbacciahey all - who manages the packages for breezy?09:02
mik3michele : where would i read on this09:02
AnswerLeaChim: parallel ports sounds like a wiki search issue09:02
mik3nvu doesn't have it documented09:02
michelemik3, on nvu's site?09:03
feugan3333LeaChim: are the ports enabled in your bios?09:03
mik3alright i'll check it out thanks09:03
LeaChimfeugan3333, i believe so09:03
cyphasedo power supplies have any kind of intelligence, or do they just route the power and that's that?09:03
LeaChimAnswer, nothing on there, or the forums09:03
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LeaChimfeugan3333, i'll check09:03
mik3cyphase : my atx cuts my grass09:03
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cyphasemik3, cool09:03
cyphasehow much was it?09:03
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Error323Hello everyone, can somebody help me with an ubuntu install concerning a raid0 configuration?09:04
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h08817hello09:04
h08817i was wondering why ubuntu won't install on my partitioned hd09:04
mdma-What command do I add to ubuntu GRUB to boot into single user mode and reset the root password?09:04
Centaur5mik3, Does it cut it or just kind of fry it?09:04
h08817i have 98 on one of my hds and xphome on the other09:04
laszlokwhere can i find a list of package repositories09:04
h08817i would like linux on my xp hd but on a partition09:05
Error323Did some research on raid0 and ubuntu, but only thing i could find was to use a non raid hdd09:05
h08817i tried it and it goes to install but when it boots for the first time i get a grub error09:05
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laszlokother than ubuntuguide.org09:05
feugan3333mdma: On my system there is a recovery mode option in grub09:05
mdma-Feugan, yes.09:05
feugan3333mdma: that is ubuntu already set up a special "kernel" for recovery mode09:06
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Hoxzerhow can I change default browser of ubuntu?09:06
mdma-Feugan, I boot into system recovery mode.. But it prompts me for root pass. "Give root password for mainenance (or type Control-D to continue)"09:06
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raven3x7anyone know if there is extras for breezy09:07
raven3x7?09:07
vladuz976anybody can help with "/root/.cvspass failed for reading"? i installed cvs with apt, don't know why i get this09:07
raven3x7vladuz976 not root maybe?09:07
h08817is it possible to have 3 OS's on the same system?09:07
raven3x7h08817 sure09:08
Error323Doesn't anyone here has experience with raid configurations and ubuntu?09:08
h08817well it won't work for me09:08
h08817grub doesn't work09:08
raven3x7hmm which 3?09:08
h0881798, xp, ubuntu09:09
raven3x7OSes i mean09:09
raven3x7oh09:09
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eu-prleu-peupeuhi ppl09:09
h08817i want 98 b/c i have certain programs on it that i don't have on cd anymore09:09
vladuz976raven3x7, the script i am using that checks out writes to /usr and /tmp so i have to be root09:09
h08817like MSOFFICE09:10
raven3x7vladuz dunno then09:10
h08817and i don't wanna get an illegal copy09:10
raven3x7h08817 windows xp nor 98 work?09:10
mdma-Feugan, are  you there?09:10
h08817raven3x7: both work09:10
h0881798 and xp are on 2 dif hds09:10
mdma-Feugan, thanks for the help. this support channel is nice.09:10
h08817i want linux on my xp hd b/c it is a lot bigger09:11
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raven3x7so ubuntu wont load?09:11
h08817i get grub 23 or something like that09:11
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h08817right09:11
Error323I'm surprised no-one knows lol09:11
h08817it installs and everything09:11
Error323or awnsers :)09:11
raven3x7hmmm is grub installed on the correct MBR?09:11
jalcalai help about how to install ubuntu on server with disc array09:11
h08817well it asks to install on mbr and i said yes09:12
Error323jalcala was that to me?09:12
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Error323I'm not installing it on a server, but just a desktop with 2 hitachi disks in raid009:13
raven3x7h08817 well since you have 2 HDs you also have 2 MBR. which one is you first HD the xp or the 98 one?09:13
h08817what is raid?09:13
Error323using an ICH6R controller09:13
jalcalaraid 509:13
h08817raven3x7: xp09:13
jalcala5 disc09:13
h08817raven3x7: when i turn on my comp it goes to xp09:13
jalcala4 on array 1 on spare09:13
h08817its the master09:13
raven3x7you dont see grub at all?09:14
h08817nope09:14
jalcalausing smart array controller09:14
h08817on the first boot after the install it dies09:14
Error323Raid is a way to hook up several disks in an array so you can for instant read/write parallel to each of them giving you twice the speed.09:14
h08817it says grub 23 i think09:14
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Error323ehhh twice when with two disks09:14
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Error323the speed depends on the number of disks09:15
Quinthiush08817: raid is an array of physical disks to create one "virtual" disk, in various modes (such as mirroring, so if one dies, you dont lose data... or combining two disks together to get increased storage)09:15
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jalcalaInstallations crash with error not allocate resource for eisa5,609:15
Error323yeah that's a better awnser :)09:15
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mik3Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting. <--i get this when i run nvu, i can't find any relivant posts on google or nvu's home page, any suggestions?09:15
seliniumError323, Look what Quinthius just said  ^^^^^09:15
Error323jalcala I don't even get an error09:16
raven3x7h08817 this is probably beyond me. you might wanna google fur grub error 2309:16
h08817raven3x7: so is there any reason why it doesn't work?09:16
iratsu_is 855resolution supposed to be in unvierse?09:16
h08817ok thanks09:16
Error323selinium my reply to that was "yeah that's a better awnser :)"09:16
h08817later09:16
AnswerQuestion: Cisco EAP-FAST Authentication compatible wireless network adapter for Linux ?09:16
Earthencan someone remind me how to update locate09:17
seliniumError323, Sorry, i thought that was you thought! :) Doh!09:17
redtechEarthen: updatedb09:17
Error323np :)09:17
Earthenty09:17
raven3x7h08817 well the installer probably didnt configure it correctly because it got confused by the 2 drives. im just guessing thouggh09:17
jogarigai just installed ubuntu on my powerbook but yaboot didn't detect my macosx partition. Anyone know how to fix it?09:17
Error323selinium have you got experience in raid?09:17
Error323configs09:17
Error323?09:17
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seliniumError323, No, but I have seen so many people looking for answers here, have you looked in wiki?09:18
selinium!raid09:18
ubotu[raid]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto09:18
apokryphosubotu: tell jogariga about windowsdrives09:18
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Error323hmmm didn't know that feature09:19
Error323thnx09:19
seliniumError323, np09:19
jalcalaArray is created with software compaq09:19
virguleok guys I want a defrag tool for my ext3 fs09:20
Lethal-Rocksext3 doesn't frag afaik09:20
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virgulemine does (!!) I have a 82mb files fraged in 127 parts!09:20
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virgulemany others are fragmented im all puzzled09:20
raven3x7is there an extras repo for breezy yet?09:21
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raven3x7virgule ext3 does not need dfragmenting09:21
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mdma-How can I make Ubuntu boot into single user mode, and reset a password? GRUB has recovery option available.. but boots and then prompts for root pass.09:21
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seliniumIs there any way I can speed up ripping in Sound Juicer? I am only getting 1.8x out of a 8x4x32 drive.09:22
virgulehow come there is many fragmented files all around the drive?09:22
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mazemanHi to all,   anyone here has a USB DVD Writer that can share the fstab entry ?09:22
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CookedGryphonhi, does anyone know if advanced power management is included by default in ubuntu? or do i need to download some more stuff to get like cpu frequency scaling and things (also cutting down fan noise would be good)09:23
vladuz976is there something like dreamweaver for linux/ubuntu?09:23
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kangpehheh09:24
Rockett18vladuz976> there is NVU09:24
Rockett18it isnt as fancy09:24
Rockett18but it works09:24
vladuz976Rockett18, is it like bluefish?09:24
Rockett18no09:25
Rockett18http://www.nvu.com/09:25
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virguleman...09:26
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Lethal-RocksCookedGryphon, apt-cache search is your friend09:28
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LeaChimfeugan3333, it was disabled in the bios - oops09:29
alexandrosIs anyone using giFT?09:29
LeaChimnow i have a /dev/parport0 - but i still get this when using xsane:09:29
LeaChimppdev0: unregistered pardevice09:29
LeaChimppdev0: claim the port first09:29
virgulewithout transition what is /.dev directory?09:29
alexandrosI am having a problem giFTui would not start09:29
AnswerQuestion: Cisco EAP-FAST Authentication compatible wireless network adapter for Linux ?09:30
virgulealexandros: have you tried from a terminal --you might get an insightful output09:30
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feugan3333LeaChim: :-)09:33
limerwhere would an external, unformatted USB hd be located in the file system?  I would like to partition with cfdisk09:33
mjrlimer, dmesg should tell you, but likely it's /dev/sda if you have no scsi or sata disks09:34
alexandrosvirgule this the message I got 'giftui : No host to connect /apps/giftui/daemon/host.'09:34
oohweeeeDoes anyone know if it's possible to *easily* change your login name?09:34
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limermjr: thx.  I will look09:34
mik3Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting. <--i get this when i run nvu, i can't find any relivant posts on google or nvu's home page, any suggestions?09:34
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misieqhi there! i'm wondering if ubuntu live for ppc might come handy if i'm up to netboot one MacOS from other mac machine?09:35
rigeldoes anyone else have a problem with the xmms-flac package?09:36
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rigelit breaks xmms09:36
rigelfor me09:36
Quinthiusoohweeee: should be09:36
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seliniumtopyli, but you need the katana font for your matrix style screen savers! :D09:37
LeaChimfeugan3333, it's still broken though :/09:37
rado_ukIs Someone Using AOL with Ubuntu09:37
topyliselinium: oh, that one stays for sure09:37
topyliselinium: i do read the matrix like an open book :)09:38
Lethal-Rocksrado_uk, That person needs to die :P09:38
seliniumtopyli, lol09:38
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rado_ukLethal-Rocks Why?09:38
rado_ukIm stuck with AOL09:38
Lethal-Rocksrado_uk, Awww :(09:38
rado_ukand im looking for solution09:38
lundneri never really got aol working with linux :-S09:38
Quinthiusoohweeee: it's probably only a matter of modifying your  entry in /etc/passwd (change username and home dir), renaming your home dir, and renaming your group in /etc/groups09:38
topyliselinium: but i rarely surf web sites written in, say, kannada09:38
seliniumtopyli, Is you hd getting a bit rammed?09:39
lundnerwhat internet-connection do you have rado_uk09:39
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rado_ukcable modem09:39
rado_ukits broadband09:39
topyliselinium: no, it's just hard to browse the fonts in the openoffice font selector for example09:39
pestilenceis it possible to have 2 monitors in clone setup such that one has a higher actual resolution than the other, but they have the same virtual resolution?09:39
pestilencei.e. one shows the entire screen, the other scrolls when you move your mouse to the top and bottom, left and right of the screen09:39
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Quinthiuspestilence: i dont know, but it does sound like a cool idea09:40
seliniumtopyli, I used to have the same problem, I have over 2000 fonts at one point! It made chosing on a little difficult!09:40
seliniumtopyli, *had09:40
TalkyCookedGryphon09:40
Talkyhello :)09:40
pestilenceQuinthius: indeed.09:40
misieqdoes anybody know how can i set up netboot server on ubuntu live for mac?09:41
Quinthiuspestilence: i'm sure it's possible somehow09:41
rado_ukGot any ideas about AOL?09:41
pestilenceQuinthius: sure, the question is, how :)09:41
Lethal-Rockslart rado_uk09:41
Lethal-Rocksgrr09:41
Lethal-Rocks!lart rado_uk09:41
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lundneri only have a german tutorial but it doesn't work when i had aol09:42
Quinthiuspestilence: i suspect it would involve (maybe among other things) creating a secondary screen section in xorg.conf, with the virtual desktop enabled09:42
alexandrosvirgule: I got it up but it is asking for a port on localhost to connect to.09:43
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Quinthiuspestilence: i'm not sure if you can have two active "Screen" sections in xorg.conf at the same time or not..09:43
Talkydoes anyone know how can i configure the linuxant driver in ubuntu09:43
pestilenceQuinthius: you can, but not in clone mode09:43
rado_ukcheers for your useful help and for the "chopping"09:44
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pestilenceQuinthius: as far as i can tell.  it works fine if i want two different displays.  but to have one cloned display, it only wants one screen section09:44
Quinthiuspestilence: oh, they act as expanded desktops or whatever?09:44
Talkywb CookdGryphon09:44
pestilenceQuinthius: no, just two separate desktops.09:44
CookdGryphondoes anyone here have a clue about laptop power management?09:44
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pestilenceQuinthius: you can have one big desktop, that's called xinerama09:44
Talkyhey CookdGryphon09:44
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CookdGryphonhey Talky09:45
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kangpehwhy can't i see anythign in my imap inbox in evolution09:45
TalkyCookdGryphon, i have to show you plog09:45
LeaChimnow i have a /dev/parport0 - but i still get this when using xsane: ppdev0: unregistered pardevice ppdev0: claim the port first09:45
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Talkyits not working :(09:45
CookdGryphonTalky, yeah09:46
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TalkyCookdGryphon, how can i show you?09:46
FlopsyPetehi. I'm trying to understand printing... where does foomatic come into it? if I have, for example an Epson printer and am running 'cups' and 'cupsys-driver-gimp-print', does foomatic-db / foomatic-db-gimp-print duplicate what cupsys-driver-gimp-print does?09:46
Quinthiuspestilence: what kind of vid card are you using?09:46
Talkypm you?09:46
Answer!foomatic09:46
ubotuAnswer: Did you get hit by a windmill?09:46
CookdGryphonTalky, /join #flood09:46
CookdGryphonpaste it in there09:46
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FlopsyPete|foomatic09:47
FlopsyPete:)09:47
FlopsyPete!foomatic09:47
ubotuFlopsyPete: Did you get hit by a windmill?09:47
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pestilenceQuinthius: intel 855gm09:47
Quinthiuspestilence: http://www.x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/radeon.4.html go there and search for "MergedFB" ... it looks driver-specific for radeon but if it can do it im sure other drivers have similar options..09:48
pestilenceQuinthius: the i810 driver09:48
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pestilenceQuinthius: yes, i saw that.  didn't think it would work for the i810 driver.09:48
FlopsyPeteI don't understand the foomatic windmill thing09:48
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nickrudkangpeh, I've got imap in evolution working ok; what's your problem?09:48
Answerthe bot does not have any info for foomatic, the windmill thing is a humorous alternative to a blank stare09:48
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rigeldoes anyone else have a problem with the xmms-flac package?09:48
Answer!tell flopsypete about ubotu09:49
kangpehnickrud09:49
kangpehfor 2 imap acc's ive made09:49
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kangpehif there are other folders in the imap acc, nickrud09:49
kangpehi can see those09:49
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kangpehbut the inbox folder, i cannot see09:49
kangpehit says 'x new messages' or whatever u know Inbox (12) or whatever showing the # of new messages09:49
FlopsyPetestill doesn't explain whaty windmills has to do with foomatic09:49
kangpehbut in the listing on the right, it doesn't show any messages09:49
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kangpehnickrud09:49
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SpaceDog`Good day09:49
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Quinthiuspestilence: hmm all im seeing for mergedfb anywhere is for radeon and some mention of nvidia, matrox and SiS..09:49
SpaceDog`where can i get ubuntu?09:49
Answer!tell SpaceDog` about ubuntu09:50
SpaceDog`where can i get ubuntu?  i heard the CDs are sent for free09:50
nickrudkangpeh, just a sec, I haven't seen that before09:50
SpaceDog`!tell09:50
kangpehO_O09:50
AnswerSpaceDog`:  ubuntu.com fool09:50
rigelcan anyone help me troubleshoot this flac/xmms problem?09:50
SpaceDog`i mean the CDs09:50
SpaceDog`pls dont be rude09:50
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dsasSpaceDog: shipit.ubuntu.com09:50
nickrudkangpeh, which imap server are you using?09:51
AnswerYour lack of searching the ubuntu webpage before asking on here may be perceived as rude.09:51
kangpehnickrud: imap server from school and imap server (qmail) on my server09:51
kangpehnickrud: but evolution worked before with hoary.09:51
kangpehbut now with breezy it doesn't09:51
kangpeh:(09:51
kangpehsame exact settings09:51
kangpeh:(09:51
nickrudkangpeh, it's working in breezy here, and that is strange09:52
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Quinthiuspestilence: http://www.xfree86.org/current/i810.4.html  search for "Clone" ... not very descriptive but might be a step in the right direction09:52
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nickrudkangpeh, can you see them with mutt or thunderbird?09:52
pestilenceQuinthius: yes, clone works.  but that makes both screens the same resolution.  i want the laptop screen to have a virtual resolution that is the same as the LCD's actual resolution09:53
kangpehnickrud: didnt try09:53
nickrudkangpeh, probably you can, but it's best to check (seems like an evo problem, not imap)09:54
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Quinthiuspestilence: yeah... it might just be an issue of whether or not the driver has that functionality..09:54
nickrudmy misunderstanding :)09:54
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putz_kinhucan i ask general questions about linux here?09:54
topylijudging by the amount and diversity of fonts i'm uninstalling, the language support is pretty awesome09:54
occy!ask09:54
pestilenceQuinthius: right.09:54
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Cryptidexit09:55
Answer!tell occy about ubotu09:55
Cryptidexit09:55
putz_kinhui want to ident my c/c++ codes, using color for each word,etc....wich program should o dlownad?09:55
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Answer!emacs09:55
ubotuAnswer: I give up, what is it?09:55
Answerputz_kinhu:  emacs is the c00lest text editor09:56
CookdGryphonputz_kinhu, do u mean syntax highlighting?09:56
putz_kinhubut09:56
CookdGryphoncos even gedit has that09:56
boxerboyis it true for 2 pcs set with linux to print off same printer the printer has to be connected through wireless?09:56
putz_kinhuemacs dont ident the code itself09:56
putz_kinhui downloaded emaca09:56
occy!tell occy about ask09:56
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topyliooh, there's a package called ttf-ubuntu-title!09:56
ui!ping09:56
ubotuKeep your fingers to yourself, ui.09:56
occy!tell putz_kinhu about ask09:56
Quinthiusputz_kinhu: try gedit or gvim09:56
Lethal-Rocksoccy, you can use !tell me09:56
occyputz_kinhu, sorry09:56
Lethal-Rocks;)09:56
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occyheh09:57
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putz_kinhuu r saying Xemacs or emacs?09:57
occyhey, just trying to learn so I can help peeps out09:57
occy;)09:57
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Answer!tell occy about help09:57
Answer!tell occy about tell09:57
ui!ubotu09:57
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, or better than SmarterChild09:57
occyAnswer, heh, ok that's enough09:58
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makkkseveas, is your server down?09:58
makkkI'd like to get freenx09:58
roham_I need help with installing matlab... I got a install script in the CD... I have tried ./install but it dosnt work...09:59
roham_anybody09:59
QuinthiusAnswer:  :P09:59
makkkroham_ I think you need to copy the cd contents to your hard disk09:59
roham_makkk why?09:59
makkkroham_, I dont have an answer. I believe that's the only way I got it to work09:59
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Seveasmakkk, yeah, I screwed up the .deb archive on it :)09:59
roham_seveas how can I get the attributes for installing from cdrom?10:00
makkkseveas, any ideas on when or if it will be officially in breezy/backports for breezy?10:00
Seveas!no ubotu is Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/10:00
ubotuSeveas: okay10:00
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Seveas!forget bytefoo10:01
ubotuSeveas: i forgot bytefoo10:01
keithceHi10:01
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ubotui forgot seveas, Seveas10:01
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keithceQuestion: Does Ubuntu come with CD Burning software?10:01
Seveasroham_, ?10:02
makkkkeithce, yes10:02
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Seveaskeithce, yes it does10:02
engieHi. To try out breezy can I just change my apt-get sources to breezy and let apt-get update do its thing10:02
engie?10:02
apokryphosroham_: did you check the apt-howto? It has instructions there10:02
deFryskkeithce, more software then you wil need to use10:02
apokryphosengie: yes10:02
ui!upgrade2breezy10:02
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade10:02
keithceI do not believe it was installed, how can I install it?10:02
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fortnoxsup everyone10:02
roham_apokryphos: instructions for what?10:02
deFryskkeithce, what is not installed ?10:03
Seveaskeithce, nautilus can burn, you can install serpentine or gnomebaker for more advanced burning needs10:03
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apokryphosroham_: using the cd as an apt source, which is (I presume) what you meant10:03
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SpaceDog`what's the size of Ubuntu in the hard disk once it's installed?10:03
SpaceDog`can it work even if im using AMD Duron 750 with 64MB RAM?10:03
Lethal-RocksCould someone help me with upgrading my other install of ubuntu to breezy, when I chroot into it and it can't connect to the servers10:03
roham_apokryphos: I cant install matlab, permission denied...10:03
Lethal-RocksSpaceDog`, It's about 1.2GB10:04
roham_is it because its mounted by root?10:04
fortnoxcan anyone please help me with a small prob10:04
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jcoxonfortnox, whats the problem?10:04
virgulehjmm10:04
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Lethal-Rocksroham_, sudo helps with installing things10:04
keithceHow can I search the apt-get repository for serpentine or gnomebaker?10:04
SeveasSpaceDog`, 750/64 is enough10:04
roham_lethal-rocks dosnt work10:04
Seveasyou just need a lotof swap10:04
virguleapt-cache search serpentine10:04
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roham_l10:04
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Lethal-RocksWhat doesn't work?10:05
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fortnoxjcoxon, i do removed everything on my system that points to fglrx.. As i updated to Breezy and i want to install the new ati drivers from the website10:05
keithceIt didn't come up with anything when I searched10:05
apokryphosroham_: what is that?10:05
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fortnoxafter i did alien -d ......... and running the dpkg -i fglrx64...10:05
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fortnoxi get an error10:05
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keithcevirgule, I typed that and nothing came up10:06
fortnoxfglrx64-4-3-0 depends on lib32gcc1 (>= 1:4.0.1); however:10:06
fortnox  Version of lib32gcc1 on system is 4.0.1-4ubuntu6.10:06
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roham_apokryphos: sudo: unable to execute ./install: Permission denied10:06
engieIs there a new ubuntu-backports for breezy? I set it to breezy-extras instead of hoary extras but synaptic reckons it can't find it (although oddly a breezy-extras path seems to be on the backports server)10:06
engie?10:06
El_Cheanyone experinced that the verifying of dvd's on k3b is *very* slow of it's just my drive?10:06
apokryphosroham_: err, what are you trying to do now?10:06
ui!goo'boy10:06
ubotuAww, thanks dad.10:06
eriscocan anyone tell me how to compile gimpshop?10:06
roham_apokryphos: when I try to start the install script on the matlab cd...10:06
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virgulethis probly mean there is no 'serpentine' try with gnomebaker it should output 'gnomebaker - application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop'10:06
CookdGryphonEl_Che, is DMA enabled?10:06
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eriscocan anyone tell me plainly what compile is?10:07
roham_apokryphos: do I need to be logged in with root?10:07
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apokryphosroham_: ok, so you're not trying to use a cdrom as an apt source. No idea what install that is10:07
roham_or copy the whole cd to the harddrive?10:07
apokryphossounds like a buildscript10:07
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jcoxonfortnox, hmmmmmm10:07
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keithcei searched for gnomebaker as well and nothing came up10:07
apokryphosroham_: this is an app for linux on cd?10:07
virgulehmm10:07
CookdGryphonerisco, its making human readable code into a binary file that the computer understands10:08
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LeaChimI'm having problems with xsane: ppdev0: claim the port first - any idea what that means and how to fix it?10:08
roham_apokryphos: yes... it should be... unix/win/linux/mac10:08
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SpaceDog`Hmmm... How about OPEN OFFICE?  is it built in when I install?10:08
virguledo you recall enabling the extra repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list ??10:08
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fortnoxjcoxon,  Does that mean i have to backdate the driver to a previous version?10:08
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Entvexhi!!!10:08
apokryphosroham_: no idea how it does the install; it probably has readme etc files. Have you not checked those?10:08
keithceno, I don't know if I did10:08
roham_apokryphos... aint any10:08
makkkroham_ is there a reason you dont want to copy it? If you look at the wiki, it also says to copy it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MATLAB.10:08
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apokryphosroham_: you would of course need root perms to install an app, though10:09
virgule!extra repositories10:09
ubotuvirgule: Are you smoking crack?10:09
zone17Hi, Mozilla released a fix for the serious vulnerability this past friday, ubuntu security has not yet fixed the problem, whats up with ubuntu security?10:09
makkkroham_, here's an excerpt: MATLAB's install script will not run from a mounted cdrom. Oddly, this is not due to default settings mounting cd-drives with -noexec, but some mystical and poorly understood voodoo. The cure is to copy the disk to your harddrive, and then run the install. To copy the disk, open a terminal and type the following10:09
SpaceDog`Hmmm... How about OPEN OFFICE?  is it built in when I install?10:09
apokryphosroham_: unless it installed it in your home10:09
keithce!extra repositories10:09
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Entvexdo the Breezy preview have alle The nye driver updates ?10:09
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SeveasSpaceDog`, it is installed when you install it10:09
fortnoxAnyone here clued up on fglrx and breezy ? would really appreciate any help10:09
jcoxonfortnox, if i'm reading it correctly its asking for a version that is already installed 4.0.110:09
SeveasSpaceDog`, OO.o is installed when you install UBuntu10:09
keithce!extra repositories10:09
ubotukeithce: Are you on ritalin?10:09
roham_makkk: ok thx... ill have to do it then hehe10:09
SpaceDog`ah ok10:09
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Seveaskeithce, don't mess with the bot10:09
fortnoxjcoxon, thats what i thought10:09
kemikEntvex:  nice mix of english and norwegian ;P10:09
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keithceoh opps10:09
SpaceDog`i have xp in my PC... would it be possible for mew to have both in my harddrive?10:10
topylibeagle is choking my poor machine. would it be happier with more ram, or is it this cpu-intensive?10:10
Entvexkemik hi my english is not the best10:10
makkkroham_ no prob. I use it every day. works sort of well. what version do you have?10:10
jcoxonfortnox, you could force the install and see if the driver then works (but there is no warrenty on that idea)10:10
nalioth_zZzSpaceDog`: yes, quite possible10:10
ui!yes10:10
ubotuYes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, ui?10:10
kemikEntvex:  ah , sry.. didnt mean to bust your balls... :|  thought you had a mind.slip10:10
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jcoxonfortnox, :P it might be just the ubuntu versioning system10:11
sktrdiehello10:11
Entvexkemik is ok mate :)10:11
kemikEntvex:  some ppl have had trouble with ATi drivers in breezy etc...10:11
jcoxonfortnox, considering you converted it alien10:11
sktrdiewhen I do apt-get install vlc, it doesnt install the packages10:11
sktrdiewierd10:11
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keithcevirgule, is there something I need to do to enable the extra packages?10:11
fortnoxyea10:11
virgulekeithce: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto10:11
fortnoxcould be10:11
apokryphossktrdie: do you have Universe enabled?10:11
kemiksktrdie:  sudo apt-get install vlc ?10:11
fortnoxlemme try the force10:11
Seveassktrdie, what does it do instead?10:11
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Entvexno kemik i got a nvidia :) but i got sound problems10:11
kemiksktrdie:  and the correct repositories installed10:11
sktrdieI do have universal10:11
kemiksktrdie:  and updated ?10:11
sktrdieit says:10:12
fortnoxvlc seems to not be able to run in breezy10:12
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sktrdieThe following packages have unmet dependencies:10:12
sktrdieand then some packages10:12
kemikdont paste10:12
fortnoxlo there linuxboy10:12
ekimusanyone proficient in remastering the live cd? i've got some problems getting the extracted filesystem in a svn repo (/dev file especially)10:12
sktrdiethat are not going to be isntall10:12
Entvexkemik is all the new sound drevers in the new Ubuntu ?10:12
kemiksktrdie:  install the dependencies manually perhaps ?10:12
apokryphossktrdie: you're on breezy?10:12
ui!paste10:12
ubotupaste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text10:12
linuxboyfortnox10:12
Seveassktrdie, paste the complete error together with your sources.list on the pastebin10:12
kemikEntvex:  dont know really10:12
sktrdieapokryphos: yes10:12
apokryphossktrdie: ok, pastebin them so we can have a look.10:13
keithcevirgule, Do you know which category the CD burning software would be under?10:13
Lethal-RocksHow can I make GTK app fonts smaller?10:13
sordichow do i change my user name ?10:13
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sordicat ubuntu ?10:14
LadyLinuxHello all.10:14
makkkhello lady10:14
Seveassordic, editing /etc/passwd  /etc/shadow /etc/group /etc/sudoers (as root) may work, but you'd better create a new user10:14
sktrdieSeveas, apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/219610:14
sordicSeveas, ok. thanks.10:14
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sktrdiealso the source.list on  the bottom10:15
virgulekeithce: nay..I use no such device so I don't know.. But I would look it up for you if you need it10:15
ekimussordic: you have to modify /etc/group /etc/passwd according to the new settings, then rename the homedir to the new username and /var/spool/mail/$user (but it may be easier to just create a new user and copy everything to the new homedir10:15
Gui_hello folks10:15
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__filip_someone know if this will work in breezy? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6462910:16
Gui_I'm trying to copy some files on my hd to a USB drive, but no success10:16
Seveassktrdie, enable universe10:16
Seveasah wait10:16
Gui_I'm running from a Live CD, and have mounted my /dev/hda1 to a /mnt/windows folder10:16
EntvexSeveas :) can you help me when do got time :) ?10:16
Gui_which I can browse to only by calling nautilus from the root terminal10:17
Seveassktrdie, try an apt-get update10:17
Gui_but once there can't seem to do anything about copying the files to somewhere else10:17
Gui_any help?10:17
CookdGryphondoes anyone know anything about power management for laptops in ubuntu?10:17
sktrdieSeveas: I did update yesterday10:17
virgulekeithce: gnomebaker is in 'GNOME Desktop Environment (universe)10:17
keithcevirgule, Thank you10:17
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virgulekeithce: I cant seam to find 'serpentine' tho..10:18
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apokryphossktrdie: sorry about that, evil phone. What happens when you try to install libflac6?10:18
Belutzfor P4 HT, should i use 686 or 686-smp ?10:18
nalioth_zZzvirgule: breezy is broken until oct 1310:18
sktrdiebrb10:18
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virgulethats spooky :/10:19
Entvexdo som of you in here have sound problems ?10:19
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fortnoxjcoxon, heh no luck mate even if i do force...boitjie does not want to budge still complains about my lib32gcc1 version10:19
Gui_ppl, if two folders have different owners, can this prevent me from copying files from one to another?10:19
LadyLinuxAnyone have a cheep serial modem?10:19
CookdGryphonEntvex, i DID have sound problems but its all fixed now10:19
makkkEntvex, i think lots of people do10:19
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Harr___hi again10:19
Mpmcis the new version of ubuntu available yet?10:20
apokryphosMpmc: available, but not out officially yet10:20
Entvexwhat have you guys have don on you sound problems ???10:20
Gui_(the folder I'm trying to copy to is read write execute authorized)10:20
makkkmpmc, its not done, but available10:20
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apokryphosubotu: tell Entvex about sound10:20
nalioth_zZzMpmc: officially available oct 1310:20
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Mpmcages away :@10:21
Entvexwhat have you guys have don on you sound problems ??? LadyLinux and CookdGryphon10:21
LadyLinuxIs a Hawkins 56K Serial modem compatable?10:21
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Gui_ppl, any hints on copying files to a USB drive?10:21
CookdGryphonEntvex, someone showed me a tutorial with settings.. i'll ust look it up10:22
Gui_where drag&drop doesn't worrk10:22
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EntvexCookdGryphon what sound card do you have10:22
reiki_workGui_: insert... it should automount... copy10:22
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Gui_reiki_work, tried that exactly10:22
Gui_it mounts, I can open it10:22
misterdiffhi all. i'm running gnome 2.10 and i want to know how to connect to different accesspoints, check their signal strength, etc...?10:22
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{cYanide}hey10:22
LadyLinuxbob2: Could you see if this modem is compatable?  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682510020410:23
Gui_but can't drag&drop from another folder to there10:23
reiki_workGui_: is it mounting properly? I had a bit of fiddling to do to get mine working reliably10:23
{cYanide}er is there a way i can update gnome in ubuntu to 2.12?10:23
SpaceDog`Ubuntu Linux vs. Win 98 in a desktop with AMD DURON 750 AND 64MB RAM....  which is faster?10:23
Lethal-Rocksmisterdiff, Does your Wireless Card definately work10:23
Harr___I am seeking for a program. Now the only way to change default "open with application" (that I know) is that I right-click some file, and adjust those settings there. Are there available any program which can do it?10:23
misterdiffLethal-Rocks, yes10:23
misterdiffusing it now10:23
reiki_workGui_: was this flash drive formatted on a windows machine?10:23
Gui_reiki_work, I believe it is, bcause I've worked on files that were there, including saving them back to the drive10:23
EntvexCookdGryphon what sound card do you have10:23
Gui_yes it was10:23
fortnoxSpaceDog`, you should not even Put ubuntu against win 98.. diff class all together10:24
CookdGryphonEntvex, i thinjk its an SiS one, not sure, the sound worked, the problem was with multiple programs trying to play sound10:24
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Lethal-Rocksmisterdiff, KWifiManager is nice, but it depends on KDE. You might not want to install it if bandwidth is slow10:24
reiki_workGui_: you've copied to and from teh drive in Ubuntu and now it's stopped working properly?10:24
Gui_(worked on .doc and .rtf files created in Win)10:24
Gui_reiki_work, not exactly10:24
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makkkspacedog`, unless ubuntu is modified, maybe win98... except now, win98 doesnt have support... so you have to deal with vulnerabilities on your own... and the bsods10:24
sktrdieOK im back10:24
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EntvexCookdGryphon i have the same !!! ca you show me ?????10:24
Gui_reiki_work, I've opened files that were on the drive, worked on them and saved them back10:24
Harr___please help me: I am seeking for a program. Now the only way to change default "open with application" (that I know) is that I right-click some file, and adjust those settings there. Are there available any program which can do it?10:25
sktrdieSeveas: is my sources.list setup right?10:25
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reiki_workGui_: ok... you did this in Ubuntu? (sorry... trying to get a clear picture here)10:25
Gui_reiki_work, yes, using OpenOffice10:25
CookdGryphonEntvex, can u play sound at all? does the login sound play?10:25
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Gui_reiki_work, opened &saved from within OpenOffice10:26
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lenhanhas anyone set up pvm on ubuntu?10:26
jcoxonfortnox, damn though it was on to a winner then10:26
EntvexCookdGryphon yes but i cant play 2 sounds a one time10:26
reiki_workGui_: ok... try typing   sudo mount   in t erminal window.. see what mount is telling you about the flash drive10:26
LadyLinuxHello, Is anyone recieving my messages?10:26
CookdGryphonokay then Entvex give me a min10:26
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Lethal-RocksLadyLinux, No, I can't read10:26
fortnoxjcoxon, thanx for the help mate... I shall continue my search... :P10:26
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froggy25where is the system fonts found on here10:26
EntvexCookdGryphon yes mate10:26
ekimusLadyLinux: again please...10:26
Gui_reiki_work, what I'm trying to do now is: I've mounted my HD (originally windows) to /mnt/windows, and want to copy files from there to the flash drive10:27
froggy25im looking for the system fonts for ubuntu10:27
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LadyLinuxLethal-Rocks: roflol.\10:27
Gui_reiki_work, will check what mount tells me10:27
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froggy25where is that located10:27
Lethal-Rocks!lart LadyLinux10:27
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LadyLinuxAnyone have a cheep serial modem?10:27
SpaceDog`yeah10:27
LadyLinuxIs a Hawkins 56K Serial modem compatable?10:27
ekimusLadyLinux: any external one should do10:27
Harr___Hey, I have a problem: I am seeking for a program. Now the only way to change default "open with application" (that I know) is that I right-click some file, and adjust those settings there. Are there available any program which can do it?10:27
mjrLadyLinux, if the "serial" means that it connects to an rs-232 serial port, yes10:27
Lethal-RocksHarr___, Stop repeating yourself10:27
SpaceDog`does Ubuntu detect flash disks readily or must there be a driver?10:27
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Harr___lethal-rocks: ok10:28
CookdGryphonEntvex, go thru http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753&highlight=Add+Sound+Card but then re-enable the sound server and put it back to Esd and OSS in the multimedia selector if it is still weird, i did that and it alll worked, even tho the tutorial tells u to set them both to alsa and disable sound server startup10:28
reiki_workSpaceDog`: it should automount them10:28
makkkladylinux, you can make pretty much anything work. hopefully this wont be a hard one. but it looks good10:28
EntvexSpaceDog li think it do it auto :)10:28
LadyLinuxekimus: Could you tell me if this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682510020410:28
Gui_reiki_work, after a few other things I have these:10:28
sktrdieSeveas: you there?10:28
ekimushi, i want to rsync a / filesystem (including /dev) now the problem is that i want to place it inside a svn repo which requires non privileged users to be able to "create" (or something else) those files. any hints on this?10:28
mjrLadyLinux, yes, that seems quite fine10:28
{cYanide}when er breezy? comes out10:28
Gui_reiki_work, /dev/hda1 on /mnt/windows type ntfs (rw)10:28
reiki_workGui_ don't paste a lot of lines in here... one or 2 mqaybe10:28
makkkladylinux, you may possibly need to come back here and get more help setting it up. but it should work10:28
Lethal-Rocks{cYanide}, Oct 1310:28
SurakHello, I would like to track down a problem which is happening in ALL my machines with breezy and totem. Could someone help me to debug it?10:28
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{cYanide}will i just be able to install it over my current ubuntu install?10:29
LadyLinuxmjr.  Thanx.10:29
Gui_reiki_work, and also:/dev/sda on /media/SANS TITRE type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,sync,noatime,quiet,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)10:29
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Lethal-Rocks{cYanide}, yes10:29
El_CheCookdGryphon: it is a usb2 device and burning goes pretty fast and OK. It's just de verifying that takes hours10:29
Gui_reiki_work, ok, sorry10:29
{cYanide}ah ok cool:)10:29
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Sputn1kHow to fix that: http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2895/nuotrauka3dl.png10:29
{cYanide}and all my menu items etc should stay?10:29
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reiki_workGUi_: no you're ok...10:29
EntvexCookdGryphon thx :)10:29
reiki_worklooking10:29
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CookdGryphonElleo, it won't b that then10:29
Lethal-RocksDoes anyone know how to change GTK app font sizes?10:29
EntvexCookdGryphon lie have a look10:29
ekimusLadyLinux: it should do (but i'd select a vendor near you that you can blame in case it doesn't)10:29
CookdGryphonEl_Che, sry10:29
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Suraksince yesterday's update, totem completely locks up when trying to open a dvd.10:29
Gui_reiki_work, those are the two I'm trying to work with10:29
CookdGryphonEntvex, look at what?10:29
Suraktotem-breezy10:30
lenhanI've searched google and the unbuntu forums regarding the setup of PVM, but I've had no success; I also have downloaded and compiled pvm3 manually but I cannot add nodes to my master node; does anybody here happen to have any hints for me?10:30
EntvexCookdGryphon at the link :)10:30
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naliothSurak: breezy is broken until oct 1310:30
Gui_reiki_work, btw I can only browse to this /mnt/windows folder when I call nautilus after 'sudo su'10:30
Suraknalioth: I'm opening bugs FOR breezy for months.10:30
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reiki_workGui_: those look to be properly mounted to me. Assuming the windows partition is indeed ntfs. Perhaps someone else will have an explanation for you.10:31
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reiki_workGui_: AHH!! might be a permissions problem?10:31
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CookdGryphonEntvex, what link?10:31
naliothSurak: smack those bugs10:31
Gui_reiki_work, I'm guessing permission / owner of the folder problems10:31
CookdGryphonEntvex, ahhhh, i'll have a look u meant10:31
CookdGryphonget u now10:31
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Suraknalioth: breezy is at feature freeze. We must track down every bug we can. And breezy loosing the ability to play cds is a big one.10:32
Gui_reiki_work, the flash drive tells me it's owned by ubuntu, /mnt/windows is owned by root10:32
reiki_workGui_: can you check permissions of /mnt/windows ?10:32
Gui_reiki_work, how do I do that?10:32
Lethal-RocksGui_, ls /mnt/windows -l10:32
Lethal-RocksI think10:32
sktrdiehello10:32
ekimusLadyLinux: aren't there any 2nd hand shops near you?10:32
reiki_workGui_: in terminal type ls -la /mnt/windows10:32
naliothSurak: alrighty. why are you discussing bugs in here? when bugzilla or -devel would be more appropriate?10:33
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sktrdieapokryphos: what were you suggestions for my problem with VLC>10:33
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apokryphossktrdie: what happens when you try to install libflac6?10:33
seliniumhi people, will all debs out there install or do they need to be Ubuntu specific?10:33
seliniumhi apokryphos!10:33
reiki_workGui_: if it's mounted by root, owned by root, ... you should still AS ROOT be able to copy files10:33
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sktrdieapokryphos: it says that there's no package10:33
Gui_reiki_work, ok... lots of lines starting with dr-x---, some just -r10:33
seliniumhi nalioth10:34
jessybonjour10:34
naliothhowdy selinium10:34
Suraknalioth: I'm asking for help on debugging totem, don't want to bother the devels without the full information I can provide. Wouldn't be good if someone says me "provide a stack trace"10:34
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Harr___how I change default "open with" application confs?10:34
Gui_I should be able to copy files to a folder owned by anyone else, right?10:34
apokryphossktrdie: ok, one sec.10:34
apokryphoshi selinium =)10:34
jessyy 'a t'il quelqu'un parlant francais ici?10:34
naliothSurak: in this channel i'm sure you could ask for "dna trace" and get the same response10:34
Gui_reiki_work, btw is there a command in the terminal to copy files from one place to another?10:34
LadyLinuxskimus: Not here, no market for it.  Everyone buys new.10:34
nalioth!fr10:34
ubotufr is, like, Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais10:34
reiki_workGui_: in a line like this dr-x------  that means only the onlr can read the files. permissions listed across the line are owner, group, others10:35
LadyLinuxekimus: Not here, no market for it.  Everyone buys new.10:35
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jessymerci obutu10:35
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reiki_workGui_: in terminal you can cp /mnt/windows/filenames (wildcards work) /mnt/whaatever_Flash_Drive_is10:35
Gui_reiki_work, ok: so everything listed is 1 root root10:35
LadyLinuxekimus: Unless you know someone that helps by getting donations and selling.10:35
apokryphossktrdie: try installing libflac710:35
Gui_reiki_work, ok, will try the manual cp command10:36
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Gui_reiki_work, thx a lot already10:36
El_Cheok: my problem is bogus10:36
reiki_worknp10:36
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topyli\o/10:36
LadyLinuxekimus: This area is so unreliable for that.10:36
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seliniumtopyli, I used to run Wolfenstein on my P900!10:36
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reiki_workI used to run Pong on my Atari :)10:37
topyliselinium: yeah, i remember wondering if my pc would be able to run doom10:37
El_Chek3b verifies fine when run as root (gksudo /usr/bin/k3b). Strange that it burns without probs (fast!) as a user and verifies but *very* slow.10:37
reiki_workI'm so old... first video was someone yelling, "HEY! WATCH THIS!"10:37
seliniumtopyli, :D oh sooo true!10:37
topyliselinium: on my first box i played rogue. now i play doom and nethack on the darn phone10:38
topylio tempora o mores10:38
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reiki_workwork to do... back in a bit...10:38
sktrdieapokryphos: already have that10:38
seliniumtopyli, my first sytem only had bat and ball!10:38
topyliheh10:38
topyliyou had a ball? we had to... ok, let's rather not go there :)10:39
apokryphossktrdie: hm, it seems to not have sorted out the packages appropriately yet, then. If you really need to use vlc, I guess you could get them from the hoary repos (which would probably work); tedious business though10:39
kev-testhi there, anyone having troubles with setting up a jail with chroot? made a dir ~/jail/ moved /bin/bash into it doing # chroot /home/me/jail  and it fails, not finding /bin/bash it says.... what is the difference with like FBSD?10:39
seliniumtopyli, luxury.... NOT AGAIN! lol10:39
CookdGryphonanyone know about laptop power management?10:39
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sktrdieapokryphos: mmm.. well It's weird but I would only need vlc because my Totem is not working10:40
seliniumhi people, will all debs out there install or do they need to be Ubuntu specific?10:40
sktrdieas soon as I put in the dvd10:40
sktrdieit dont play10:40
sktrdieand my mouse freezes10:40
topyliselinium: i did get a gaming console for christmas back in the day. it had pong (they called it tennis) and a few variants10:40
sktrdieI have to reboot10:40
apokryphossktrdie: tried xine?10:40
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sktrdiegonna  try it10:40
oohweeeeis there a version of the java runtime environment available through synaptic10:40
CookdGryphonselinium, they will al linstall, whether they'll work or not is touch n go10:40
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LasseLPopcornAlchemist ==> #ubuntu-dk :)10:41
seliniumtopyli, I had a giming console that just had a variac.. like a volume control, to sweep back and forth.10:41
sktrdieapokryphos: how do I get out of X and use normal command line? i tried ctrl+alt+del, but it brings me out to a not shell10:41
Answersktrdie: alt+f110:41
SpaceDog`ping10:41
Answerctrl+alt+f1 sry... ctrl+alt+f7 back to graphics10:41
oohweeeeselinium, was it a "Magnavox Odyssey" game system?10:41
apokryphossktrdie: to restart X: ctrl+alt+backspace; to change to a terminal session use ctrl+alt+F1-610:41
Gnonthgo1sktrdie: try Ctrl + Alt + Fx to get to ttyx10:41
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keithcevirgule, Hey can you help me again? :)10:42
topyliselinium: yeah, like a button you rolled to move. i wonder if we had the same thing :)10:42
seliniumoohweeee, I think it was an amstrad thing or something. it was about 20-25 years ago!10:42
topyliyeah. i wish i still had it10:43
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keithceDoes anyone have a recommendation for a program to manage wireless connections?10:43
Gui_reiki_work, sorry, stupid question now10:44
Gui_the flash drive is mounted to /media/SANS TITRE10:44
El_Chemmm. K3b did the verify until the 50% amazingly fast, but slow again :(10:45
Gui_reiki_work, but I can't seem to cd into it from the terminal... I've tried cd /media/SANSTI~1, no success10:45
LadyLinuxLaters.10:45
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ekimusanyone knows what problems i have to expect when dealing with block and character files as a normal user?10:46
bimberiGui_: try cd /media/SAN*10:46
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lsuactiafnerekimus : permission denied10:47
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Gui_bimberi, thx, will try10:47
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titaniohello10:50
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apokryphoshi there10:51
titanioubuntu has enabled atm?10:51
titanioa have the 5.04 version10:51
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titanioi want install my modem zyxel 630-c1 usb on ubuntu10:52
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titanionow i am using windows10:52
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apokryphosdamn spambots, hm.10:52
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Harr___OK I found the soft that I am looking for: Advanced Preference Tools. How to get that program into Ubuntu?10:52
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SpaceDog`i have a modem attached to my PC10:53
SpaceDog`i have a modem attached to my PC that i used when i used to access the nt using windows...  how do i configure it to much ubuntu?10:53
SpaceDog`i have a modem attached to my PC that i used when i used to access the nt using windows...  how do i configure it to match ubuntu?10:53
tearcould anyone help me get java plugin for firefox to work?10:54
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Gnonthgo1SpaceDog`: try edit /etc/inittab10:54
[t0rc] i've a question about python. I've got 2.4 on the pc (new install of hoary), anyways, I need to run 2.3 for a graphics program, so how can I get the program to use python 2.3 instead of 2.4?10:55
z|banditocan you set ubuntu to automatically log in a user to gnome from the command line?  i mean, can i set the autologin via ssh?10:55
nalioths_dog[t0rc] , install python 2.310:55
Gui_ok pholks, one more question if I may10:56
[t0rc] nalioths_dog: i've already installed it.10:56
Harr___tear: have you added all extra repositories?10:56
nalioths_dog[t0rc] , then your program should use it10:56
tearyepp10:56
tearHarr___,  yepp10:56
Harr___tear: then open synaptic10:56
[t0rc] nalioths_dog: hmm....how would I add it to path?10:57
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vladuz976anybody using skype here?10:57
Harr___find there sun-java10:57
Harr___tear: find there sun-java10:57
nalioths_dog[t0rc] , the question is: did you add the correct py23 module for your program? (it is in your $PATH, if you used apt to install)10:57
Gnonthgolvladuz976: yepp10:57
Gui_I have some files created by windows that are seen by Ubuntu as "invalid encoding", bcause of some characters in the names10:58
vladuz976Gnonthgo1, is it working well?10:58
vladuz976Gnonthgo1, i can only hear not speak10:58
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tearHarr___,  "sun-java" no enteries10:58
Gui_and because of that cp doesn't copy them... any clues on how to override that?10:58
[t0rc] nalioths_dog: Well I got the fright module afaik; how would I check the $PATH and add it (I didn't use apt, had to download it manually because lin pc isn't online) ?10:58
oscarhhi, how can i disable the clock syncronization at startup?10:58
nalioths_dogGui_, rename them?10:58
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nalioths_dogoscarh, press ctrl-c when it comes up10:59
Gnonthgolvladuz976: It works well exept that my sound card is not installed, but it worked when it was (in warty)10:59
oscarhnalioths_dog, hehe, no10:59
Gui_nalioths_dog, no can do, they're on my windows HD, which is ntfs - read only for Ubuntu10:59
oscarhnalioths_dog, i want to make sure it is never called10:59
nalioths_dogGui_, rename them in windows10:59
vladuz976Gnonthgo1, i only have the onboard soundcard from my motherboard and either skype is not working or the micorphone thing is not10:59
Harr___taer: sorry, find sun-j2re1.511:00
Gui_nalioths_dog, aha, if I were able to use windows right now on this computer my life would be a lot easier! :)11:00
CookdGryphoncan anyone help me with power management for my laptop? does ubuntu come set up to do cpu frequency scaling? and thermal management?11:00
nalioths_dogtear, if the sun java doesnt work, see Seveas11:00
emileGui_: what about using wildcards? does that work?11:00
Gui_emile, haven't tried them (except *.*, which gave me the error)11:01
Gnonthgo1vladuz976: ok11:01
Gnonthgolvladuz976: ok11:01
oscarhCookdGryphon, cpu frequency scaling is enabled11:01
nalioths_dogGui_, barts PE builder11:01
tearHarr___,  Is that the package name?11:01
Gui_nalioths_dog, what's barts PE builder?11:01
Harr___tear: should be11:01
oscarhCookdGryphon, if you men thermal management as of enabling/disabling the fan, it does on my ibm11:01
Harr___tear: sun-j2re1.511:01
CookdGryphonoscarh, y doesn't it work on mine then>11:01
nalioths_dogGui_, it's a program that allows you to make a bootable "rescue" XP cd-rom11:02
tearHarr___, cuz there is nothing names sun-11:02
apokryphosjava package is in hoary-extras, too.11:02
oscarhCookdGryphon, there could be a milion answers to that :(11:02
Gui_nalioths_dog, I can make this CD from within Ubuntu?11:02
Harr___yeah, you have to add hoary.extras in your repositories11:02
nalioths_dogGui_, i dont think so, but if you have another puter or a friend with one11:03
[t0rc] nalioths_dog: how do I check the $PATH and edit in what I need?11:03
Gui_nalioths_dog, ok will keep it in mind, thx11:03
apokryphos[t0rc] : echo $PATH11:03
nalioths_dog[t0rc] , you can add to the $PATH in your ~/.bashrc11:03
CookdGryphonoscarh, could u venture one answer? lol11:03
keithceAnyone know of a Wireless GUI? I have my wireless card installed and working, I just need a program to select a network and configure it with 802.11x WEP11:03
Gui_ok, bye and thx all11:04
tearHarr___,  I have all repos I have availible11:04
[t0rc] nalioths_dog and apokryphos: Thanks both. :)11:04
Harr___tear: read answer here:www.ubuntuguide.org11:04
Lethal-Rockskeithce, You probably won't have much luck with Linux and WEP unless the AP/Router uses 40-bit or 104-bit WEP11:04
nalioths_dogHarr___, dont do that please11:04
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apokryphostear: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list then11:04
nalioths_dog!tell Harr___ about ubuntuguide11:04
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nalioths_dogtear, Seveas has an answer to your java, get with him when he shows up11:05
keithceLethal, I want to connect to the school network and they use 802.11x TTLS and PAP authentication with a username and password11:05
apokryphosWhat's wrong with the one in hoary-extras?11:05
apokryphosThough the one in the ubuntulinux repo probably should work, too.11:05
nalioths_dogapokryphos, Seveas created a java deb that seems to work a little better11:05
Harr___what' s wrong withe ubuntuguide?11:06
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deFrysk!ubuntuguide11:06
uboturumour has it, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.11:06
crtrHow can I config eth2 by console ...eth2 is for Home network .. ?11:06
nalioths_dogHarr___, did you read what the bot sent you?11:06
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apokryphosnalioths_dog: yup, there are others, but haven't heard of problems with the hoary-extras ones11:06
apokryphos(apart from a few of the mirrors being down etc)11:06
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nalioths_dogapokryphos, some folks just cant seem to get the repo java to work11:07
virgulelol I have a mac so ubuntuguide is no harm to me ::tears up::11:07
Harr___nalioths_dog: ok11:07
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Versed`running ubuntu right now on a G4 45011:07
nalioths_dogvirgule, it can bite ANY ubuntu user who's unwary11:07
Versed`so far runs great.11:07
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virguleI know.. :)11:07
nalioths_dogLethal-Rock`away, please turn off that script11:07
Harr___I haven't had any problems when following ubuntuguide11:08
sorush20Hi.. how can i get my hotplug to be rescaned..11:08
tacobelldog45hi all11:08
tacobelldog45im new to ubuntu11:08
nalioths_dogHarr___, we've had the misfortune to have to tell some folks in here that their system is dead, due to the 'guide11:08
tacobelldog45could anybody help me to make my ma101 netgear wireless adapter to work11:09
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Harr___ok11:09
virgulesoruch20: /etc/init.d/hotplug restart       --anyome would confirm/dismiss this work?11:09
Harr___nalioths_gog: could you point out which part of guide is BAD?11:09
tacobelldog45could anybody help me to make my ma101 netgear wireless adapter to work11:10
tacobelldog45please im a noob to ubuntu (and linux)11:10
nalioths_dogHarr___, some of it's repository suggestions will break ubuntu11:10
nalioths_dogtacobelldog45: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.11:10
sorush20tacobelldog45: type lspci, then find out from the resut what the main chip is on the hardware..11:10
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tacobelldog45k thx11:11
shinuwhat does the load average actually mean in the uptime command?11:11
shinui mean11:11
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shinuhow are they calculated11:11
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shinuwhat from11:11
shinuetc11:11
Harr___nalioths_dog, i have made all my repository changes as adviced in ubuntuguide11:11
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nalioths_dogHarr___, then you are lucky11:12
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Harr___nalioths_dog: seriously speaking could you advice how to edit my sources.list correctly and to get possibility to download all over 16000 packets?11:13
apokryphosubotu: tell Harr___ about repositories11:14
nalioths_dog!tell Harr___ about sources11:14
nalioths_dog!goodbot11:14
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, nalioths_dog11:14
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tacobelldog45how do i get into the console??? sry i just changed from mandrake11:16
nalioths_dogtacobelldog45, applications > system tools > terminal11:16
virguleconsole != ttys?11:16
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tacobelldog45thx11:16
Harr___thanks guys11:16
nalioths_dogLeaChim, turn that off. please11:17
mindframemy wireless is using ndiswrapper but i cant get an essid from the router.11:17
keithceis your router broadcasting an ssid?11:17
bwlangi'm just trying to get my palm to sync with evolution 2.4 in breezy... everything seems to go okay - the palm says it's hot syncing - but i don't see any calendar events in evolution...   the backup seems to work.11:17
mindframeno11:17
keithceyou can't see an ssid if you router isn't broadcasting it11:17
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keithceyou have to manually configure your network connection to look for it11:18
mindframewell for this laptop it is11:18
Dr_Fatefirefox thinks the default profile is in use, when it is not11:18
mindframebut for the other one thats using ndiswrapper it wont detect it11:18
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Harr___nalioths_dog: could you now advice me how to get that into Ubuntu? http://www.gnome.org/~shaunm/users-guide/part2-1.html11:18
tacobelldog45i did lspci but icant find my usb WLAN adapter11:19
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mindframekeithce, ndiswrapper sees the internal card, but it wont connect to the ndiswrapper.  /etc/network/interfaces seems fine and the modules are properly aliased i think.  any ideas?11:19
nalioths_dogHarr___, what exactly were you wanting to do?11:19
CodeusAll right, well I ran the ubuntu livecd, it worked great! I didn't try printing while I was running it though. I have a Windows-only printer hooked up to my Windows server, will Linux be able to print via the network to that server/printer?11:19
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kemikCodeus:  yes11:20
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mindframekeithce, sorry... it wont connect to the *router*11:20
kemikCodeus:  use samba11:20
keithcemindframe, check this website out: this is what I used to help me http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926&page=1&pp=10&highlight=kernel+source11:20
Harr___nalioths_dog: I want to get desktop environment preference tool into my Gnome11:20
CodeusAll right, so even though there are no Linux drivers for the printer and whatnot, I can still print to it since it is connected to a Windows computer that does have the windows drivers?11:20
mindframekeithce, thanks will try it out11:21
keithcemindframe, the only thing I am stuck on it finding configuring the config file to connect to my network because of the encryption11:21
kemikCodeus:  mmh, it should work11:21
keithcemindframe, I dunno if you have a GUI to help you find and connect to wireless networks, but if  you did I would be interested11:21
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tacobelldog45i can see my adapter in the device manager but i cant find it by running lspci or in the network properties window11:22
nalioths_dogHarr___, the instructions are clearly laid out from the links at the bottom11:22
mindframekeithce, to tell you the truth this is for my friends laptop.  my laptop w/ cisco aironet 350 series pcmcia card works flawlessly, even when roaming.  wifiradar is something to look at though.11:22
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cyphasehow portable is a linux installation from one computer to another. i haven't had the opportunity to try..11:23
nalioths_dogcyphase, you mean hard drive swapping?11:24
cyphaseyea11:24
Harr___nalioths_dog: the problem is that I am able to find that opportunity iun my Gnome11:24
Harr___sorry.. i am not able11:24
nalioths_dogi wouldn't do it11:24
cyphaseinstalling it on one computer, then moving the drive to another computer11:24
cyphasek11:24
nalioths_dogHarr___, look under "System > Preferences"11:25
cyphaseby wouldn't, you mean it could effect the hardware/installation?11:25
neighborleerebooted first time since X and sound wasn't working at login...I had to  turn sound applet up but everything else looks to be on..any issues with sound and last update ??11:25
cyphaseaffect*11:25
Harr___nalioths_dog I have not there11:25
nalioths_dogcyclone, unless it was a mirror of the hardware of the installed computer11:26
nalioths_dogHarr___, what version of ubuntu are you running?11:26
LasseLis there a way to force an install of a package w/o dependencies from a different repository?11:26
Harr___hoary11:26
nalioths_dogLasseL, yes, and you get to keep the pieces11:26
LasseLI'd like to get the latest version of gtkpod from debian unstable, but I don't want the dependencies11:26
Harr___naliotsh_dog: have11:26
nalioths_dogHarr___, the system menu (in the top left of your screen) then "preferences"11:27
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Stramashi think you are screwed then LasseL11:27
Tobais there a GUI wireless config utility?11:27
Stramashcheck dependencies in the dictionary11:27
Harr___naliotsh_dog: and then?11:27
LasseLthen what do you do if you want updated versions of some program?11:28
LasseLcan I make apt-get play nice with a tar-ball?11:28
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Harr___nalioths_dog: and then?11:29
nalioths_dogHarr___, adjust your preferences to your liking11:29
Codeuscan the ntfs resizer that is in the Ubuntu 5.10 installer reliably resize NTFS partitions?11:29
nalioths_dogLasseL, if you MAKE apt do any thing, you are in for a surprise11:29
Harr___nalioths_dog: I can not find that tool there11:29
LasseLnalioths_dog, useful answers :>11:30
StramashLasseL, if it depends on something then it depends on it FULL STOP11:30
LasseLStramash, but I have all the dependencies, just not the debian unstable builds11:31
CodeusWill Ubuntu mess up my NTFS partition if I have it resize it during the install?11:31
Harr___nalioths_dog so how do you get that tool available in your Gnome?11:31
Stramashisnt there some stuff about things having to be compiled by same compiler thats how finicky things get :/11:32
nalioths_dogCodeus, using parted should not affect your NTFS *disclaimer: always back up your data b4 disc operations*11:32
nalioths_dogHarr___, i've told you: System > Preferences11:32
nalioths_dogHarr___, it is not in ubuntu as it is mentioned on the gnome website11:33
LasseLCodeus, I don't think I would try to *resize* a NTFS partition and hope to keep the data from the ubuntu installer - i doubt it even offers you the option to resize NTFS (but I could be wrong)11:33
CodeusYes, it does offer the option as of 5.04 in the installer11:34
Codeusit has11:34
Harr___nalioths_dog: Could you recommend me any other program11:34
Codeusntfsresize11:34
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naliothLasseL: parted is included on the install cd, and it has the ability to work with NTFS11:34
LasseLok, cool11:35
ghitacan someone help me about with a web problem?11:35
naliothHarr___: i dont know what else to recommend, there are many settings at System > preferences11:35
Harr___nalioths:dog: but no one to edit default "open with" applications11:36
LasseLCodeus, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning (Partitioning an NTFS (windows) partition is usualy easy and straightforward. The Warty installer did not have this functionality, but the Hoary installer does.)11:37
naliothHarr___: ah. why didn you ask that in the first place?11:37
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naliothHarr___: right clik on the object you want to "open with", choose "other" and follow the prompts11:37
Harr___nalioth: any othe way?11:38
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naliothHarr___: i'm sure there is, but i dont know them11:38
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misterdiffhey when updating the computer, if the updates are xorg and other xserver packages, will it mess up my system whille in using gnome?11:40
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Lethal-Rocksmisterdiff, No, it'll update X after you restart it11:40
Gnonthgo1misterdiff: ni, just after you restart X11:40
Harr___nalioth: ok, do you know why Ubuntu doesn't have "Advanced Preference Tools" (defined at http://www.gnome.org/~shaunm/users-guide/part2-1.html )11:40
misterdiffanyone know when gnome 2.12 is comming out on debian servers?11:41
naliothHarr___: you'd have to ask the planning committee11:41
OmarkjAny ThinkPad owners here? I've got a high pitch problem I can't seem to work out. It's actually known and there is a thread about it at Ubuntuforums.org and on ThinkWiki but I was wondering if anybody here has been able to solve it. It's not isolated to ThinkPad laptops, known on alot of other types.11:41
ringeGreat news: I've found a GPL driver for the InProComm IPN 2220 wireless chipset at ftp://ftp.dlink.com/GPL/di624M/di624m_fw10_source.tar.gz. Now, I can't use it directly (can I?) - or how do I use it?11:41
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OmarkjOne "solution" is not really a solution, booting up with the flag idle=halt. I don't want to use that for obvious reasons.11:42
misterdiffringe, it'll more than likely require you to patch and recompile the kernel11:43
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naliothringe: i suspect a  kernel recompile is in order11:44
bpucciomisterdiff: http://oskuro.net/blog/freesoftware/gnome-2.12-unstable-2005-09-13-19-26 (when GNOME 2.12 will hit debian)11:44
xceseshey has anyone installed the security tools https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSecurityTools?highlight=%28security%29 ???11:45
malverian[work] At some point direct rendering for my ATI Rage stopped working in my ubuntu install.. I'm not sure why this is, and I've reconfigured my Xorg server from scratch several times trying to fix the problem.11:45
malverian[work] The only things in my Xorg log are:11:45
malverian[work] pawalls@pawalls ~ $ egrep "\((EE|WW)\).*ATI" /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:45
malverian[work] (WW) ATI(0): Cannot shadow an accelerated frame buffer.11:45
malverian[work] (WW) ATI(0): I2C bus Mach64 initialisation failure.11:45
xcesesI get an error E: Couldnt find package toolname11:45
malverian[work] At least.. those are the only Errors/Warnings that have any mention of ATI.11:46
xceseson most of them11:46
OmarkjAnother question..the source I download when I download linux-source-2.6.10 from the Ubuntu apt repository, has it been patched with the Ubuntu patches and do I get the default .config file ?11:46
apokryphosmalverian[work] : do *not* paste in here.11:46
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ringemisterdiff, nalioth: The problem is that the source is made for the 2.4 kernel - I don't do kernel patching usually. What then?11:46
dooglusdoes anyone know how to clear evolution's cache?11:46
deliremalverian[work] : are you using xcompmgr (drop shadows) in xorg?11:47
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ctwhi! Is anybody here running the breezy preview on a HP Pavilon dv1000 laptop (or any other laptop) and has gotten suspend to disk and/or suspend to ram to work?11:47
ctwit looks like it worked in Hoary, but it's very buggy for me (will wake up briefly and immediately shut down again, or not wake up at all).11:48
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AdmiralSennhey everyone11:48
AdmiralSennI'm trying to install cdemu - http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/11:48
AdmiralSennhaving a bit of a problem11:48
delirectw: you should put this in the forums and also notify ubuntu developers. suspend-to-disk is something they are very interested in hearing back about.11:48
malverian[work] delire, no11:49
AdmiralSennit says I'm supposed to do mount /dev/cdemu/0 /mnt/cdrom11:49
malverian[work] apokryphos, Sorry.11:49
xceseshey has anyone installed the security tools https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSecurityTools?highlight=%28security%29 ???11:49
AdmiralSennand that's not working11:49
xcesesI get an error E: Couldnt find package toolname11:49
xceseson most of them11:49
AdmiralSennand I don't know precisely what that command does other than mounting the cdemu-loaded .bin to /mnt/cdrom...11:49
AdmiralSennbasically I don't know what to replace /mnt/cdrom with11:49
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deliremalverian[work] : i cannot assist as i always build the ATI fglrx drivers from source and do not do it the reccommended Ubuntu way.11:50
OmarkjAnyway, I'll try compiling a new kernel with a different Hz value.11:50
AdmiralSennactually if I could find out what filesystem I'd use to mount something as a cd that would help11:50
malverian[work] delire, I don't think the fglrx drivers have support for ATI Rage XL11:50
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malverian[work] delire, Or I would use them..11:50
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delireOmarkj: you will get a default config yes..11:50
Omarkjmalverian[work] : fglrx does not support ATI Rage XL.11:51
deliremalverian[work] : .. meaning i compile the drivers, not use an Ubuntu package. no the FireGL drivers will not provide support for your card.11:51
erUSULringe:  you have to use ndiswrapper11:51
Lethal-RocksCould someone tell me how to enable/start 3ddesktop/3dwdm?11:51
misterdiffringe, check out the readme in that archive package11:52
misterdiffringe, its got step by step instructions on how to do it11:52
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neighborleeAdmiralSenn, heh11:52
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kev-testdoes evolution have a duplicate message checker?11:52
malverian[work] delire, Back in my debian days (pre XFree 4.x) I used to have to compile xfree and the kernel drivers manually to get my Radeon 7500 to work :-P11:53
neighborleeAdmiralSenn, had to boot into windows to verify sound card is still ok..and sure enough it is...so problem clearly stems from the last big update we had11:53
tacobelldog45where can i find a cvs client plz???11:53
neighborleeso..anyone else have sound not working after last update ??? ( if so what is the fix )11:53
erUSULmalverian[work] : the radeon driver seems to work quite well here11:53
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malverian[work] I guess I should say "pre debian having xfree 4.x" days. I had to compile 4.x from CVS to get it owrking.11:53
deliremalverian[work]  what drivers are you currently using?11:53
OmarkjThis is odd, when the processor is working alot (compiling a kernel that is) I don't hear any high pitch noises. I've got a good solution here; write a script that loads my CPU 1.0. One downside..it'll eat away my battery quite fast.11:53
naliothtacobelldog45: install one. use synaptic11:53
malverian[work] delire, I'm using the default ubuntu linux-image (2.6.8) and the normal xorg-output-drivers-ati package for my ati driver.11:54
neighborleeAdmiralSenn, ah you mean the demo..well it should just work <G>11:54
AdmiralSennno11:54
deliremalverian[work]  many of us here went through many hours of DRI setup for our ATI cards until reasonably recently11:54
AdmiralSennI mean the game11:54
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neighborleelol11:54
ctwthanks delire, how do I contact the ubuntu developers / who specifically should I contact about suspend to disk11:54
AdmiralSennit's in six .bin/.cue file sets11:54
neighborleeAdmiralSenn, sorry can't help ya11:54
AdmiralSennheh11:55
AdmiralSennwell11:55
deliremalverian[work] : right. have you grepped the forums?11:55
AdmiralSennI need to know what the command I'm typing does and how to fix it11:55
OmarkjSo, does anybody know this high pitch laptop problem ?11:55
AdmiralSenn"$ mount /dev/cdemu/0 /mnt/cdrom"11:55
AdmiralSennI get mount: mount point /mnt/cdrom does not exist11:55
neighborleeAdmiralSenn, /media11:56
Omarkj(Damn, I had forgotten how time consuming compiling a kernel was.)11:56
ringeerUSUL: I'm using ndiswrapper now. It sucks. Really bad troughput.11:56
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erUSULAdmiralSenn: /mnt/cdrom does not exist in your system; create it11:56
AdmiralSennsays I need to specify the filesystem type now...11:56
AdmiralSennerUSUL: how?11:56
ringemisterdiff: The readme expects a lot of Uclinux stuff. This is standard Ubuntu x86. Doesn't it matter? I don't think the readme applies to my setup.11:57
delirectw: i'd go into #ubuntu-devel and ask politely if anyone there is interested in hearing about your suspend to disk problems. aside from this i would write about it in the forums and place an entry in http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com11:57
erUSULringe: the driver you found is for 2.4 as you have said. it won't apply in 2.6 sources11:57
delirectw: the latter is the most important.11:57
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ringeerUSUL: that's what I thought. Who can I pay to add it to 2.6 ? :-P11:58
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erUSULAdmiralSenn: mkdir /mnt/cdrom. or you can mount de cd in /media/cdrom or other directory you want11:58
malverian[work] delire, I have.11:58
AdmiralSennwell, doing the second one it asks what filesystem to use11:58
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delireOmarkj: you also should file a bug in http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com. perhaps first ask 'crimsun' if he has the time to help you. he's the resident expert in sound related matters.11:59
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AdmiralSennis it iso9660?11:59
ctwthanks again, delire!11:59
erUSULtake a look at lkml (linux kernel mailing list) and make aproposition... XDD11:59
Omarkjdelire: Will do. I expect it's a kernel problem actually.11:59
Fred|Fr3dSeveas, you there?11:59
malverian[work] delire, Some extensive google searching turned up pretty much nothing but a lot of people pasting their lspci output to forums when asking for assistance iwth other unrelated problems.11:59
deliremalverian[work] : i see. file a bug. if you have simply upgraded, this is a real problem that needs to be addressed.11:59
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