[12:00] <michaeld> yes
[12:00] <michaeld> :)
[12:00] <adjacent> ugo_: should work
[12:00] <adjacent> or http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:DKuOVPSDNskJ:https://lists.openafs.org/pipermail/openafs-info/2003-May/009119.html&hl=en&client=firefox
[12:00] <NoUse> michaeld knowing that you wouldn't be able to burn it?
[12:00] <michaeld> no
[12:00] <adjacent> for google mirror
[12:01] <PhoenixP3K> Hi everyone! Just a quick question
[12:01] <NoUse> michaeld did you see the "how to use apt locally" heading on the link I sent you?
[12:01] <michaeld> what link?
[12:01] <Hello_World> Hi
[12:01] <michaeld> that debian doc one?
[12:01] <NoUse> michaeld yes
[12:02] <Hello_World> can somebody help me with setting up my 5.1 Sound?
[12:02] <alek> in the new breezy preview, gnome 2 doesn't have the "open terminal" in the right click menu...is there a reason for this?
[12:02] <Seveas> !tell Hello_World about sound
[12:02] <PhoenixP3K> I'm making a partition for ubuntu
[12:02] <Seveas> alek, it's been moved to a plugin (nautilus-open-terminal)
[12:02] <ugo_> man alek u voiced my gripe clean there
[12:02] <alek> Seveas: great thanks.
[12:02] <nalioth> alek: there is a pkg to fix that (cant remember the name of it, tho)
[12:02] <Hello_World> ty
[12:02] <NoUse> michaeld also, try apt-cdrom again with the -m option
[12:02] <michaeld> doesnt work, nouse
[12:03] <NoUse> michaeld saying "doesn't work" helps me not at all with troubleshooting
[12:03] <trigger_ph> Does anyone know of an irc plugin for emacs?
[12:03] <Twiggy> I got an issue with my alsamixer settings randomly resetting themselves, is there some way to lock my settings so that doesn't happen?
[12:03] <Seveas> trigger_ph, erc
[12:03] <trigger_ph> @Seveas thanks! will look that up
[12:04] <PhoenixP3K> I have a 250 GB HDD NTFS with Windows XP, the new partition I make, has it to be Linux Ext2 or Linux Ext3 ?
[12:04] <Hello_World> well, the problem is, my sound works, but only the two front channely
[12:04] <Hello_World> -y+s
[12:04] <ilpavox> seveas: which package are you referring to?
[12:04] <erUSUL> trigger_ph:  apt-cache search emacs irc
[12:04] <Seveas> ilpavox, sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_i386.deb
[12:04] <Earthen> I have a question when you install danguardian does it creat a user under the same name is that normal
[12:05] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, it can be ext2, ext3, reiserfs, fat32, or a few others :P but ext3 is probably the best option (it's also the default that ubuntu will install as)
[12:05] <Hello_World> ...
[12:05] <erUSUL> Earthen: yes
[12:05] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, you will also need to create a swap partition
[12:05] <Hello_World> ext3 is sooo sloooowwwww....
[12:05] <Earthen> thank you
[12:05] <test34> is the WMV or ASF codec available in ubuntu? I did't see libwin32..
[12:05] <Seveas> Hello_World, you need to use an alsa plugin for that
[12:05] <test34> (in synaptic..)
[12:05] <Seveas> that wiki page should tell how
[12:05] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat Can't I let ubuntu installer make it?
[12:05] <ilpavox> seveas: got it
[12:05] <evian> hey Agrajag, I found out how to change Nautilus so it doesn't change windows (size) on you
[12:05] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, yes :)
[12:05] <nalioth> test34: w32codecs
[12:06] <Hello_World> What Plugin?
[12:06] <Seveas> test34, it is not, you can download it from mplayerhq.hu
[12:06] <Earthen> I am getting alot of packets going to squid and dansguardian and i can't stop it
[12:06] <erUSUL> Hello_World: maybe but it has the only fsck you can trust
[12:06] <trigger_ph> @erUSUL unfortunately, i can't do apt atm. i broke my gdm by re-enabling an onboard video interface. i'm on a windoze machine and the x-chat client for windoze is evaluation stuff.
[12:06] <michaeld> ok
[12:06] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, but it won't if you choose the manual partition editor
[12:06] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat, so I make an ext3 the size I choose then I can start installing?
[12:06] <michaeld> my grandma got some cdrs NoUse
[12:06] <michaeld> :D
[12:06] <evian> well really how to make it use "browse" mode by default
[12:06] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, are you planning to use up the rest of the space on your hard disk?
[12:06] <Agrajag> evian: what, why would I care?
[12:07] <test34> ok thanks nalioth and Seveas
[12:07] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat, the rest will be for Windows XP (games)
[12:07] <erUSUL> evian: with Gconf editor
[12:07] <Agrajag> And why did you message me about that before?
[12:07] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, is that space already partitioned?
[12:07] <NoUse> michaeld ok
[12:07] <evian> Agrajag: I thought you were saying yesterday you found Nautilis unusuable
[12:07] <Agrajag> no...
[12:07] <evian> unusable
[12:07] <Agrajag> I don't believe I spoke in here yesterday
[12:07] <evian> oh sorry, I guess that was someone else
[12:07] <Agrajag> I find spatial mode to be quite useable, I like it
[12:07] <Agrajag> ok
[12:08] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat, no it's just Windows XP on it has we speak
[12:08] <shavingcream> hi
[12:08] <shavingcream> whats matrix reasoning?
[12:08] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat, my partition program seems to be able to make a LinuxSwap partition as well
[12:09] <chrisbudden14> where can i get the file libmp3lame.so from?
[12:09] <bob2> packages.ubuntu.com
[12:09] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, the way i would advise you to proceed is to create partitions for everything else you are going to install, and leave empty space for ubuntu
[12:10] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, then install ubuntu using the 'automatically partition free space' option
[12:10] <chrisbudden14> was the packages.ubuntu.com to me?
[12:10] <erUSUL> chrisbudden14: apt-cache search lame | grep lame
[12:10] <chrisbudden14> sure
[12:10] <chrisbudden14> thanks
[12:10] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, one thing to note is that ubuntu includes a boot loader that will allow you to choose between your installed operating systems, while windows does not
[12:11] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, so i would advise you to install your windows instances first, and then ubuntu
[12:11] <Lie-Algebra> hi, what software can I use under gnome to burn cds?
[12:11] <nalioth> Lie-Algebra: k3b, gnomebaker or graveman
[12:12] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat, well Windows is already there, so I just need to make a Linux Ext3 partition right?
[12:12] <Hello_World> Seveas, what plugin do i need for 6 Channel Sound
[12:12] <Quinthius> Lie-Algebra: or nautilus
[12:12] <Quinthius> Lie-Algebra: or serpentine, for audio
[12:12] <erUSUL> Lie-Algebra: gnomebaker, coaster orgraveman
[12:12] <erUSUL> Lie-Algebra: gnomebaker, coaster or graveman
[12:12] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, so windows is already installed? i thought you meant you were going to be installing a second instance of windows
[12:13] <FruityLoop> hallo
[12:13] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, you didn't answer my question, are you going to be creating any other partitions in the free space that is currently there, or are you going to use all of the unpartitioned space for linux?
[12:13] <FruityLoop> is jemand da?
[12:13] <Lie-Algebra> thanks ;)
[12:13] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat, oh! I'll use part of the free space to ma a partition
[12:13] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat, something like 25 GB
[12:14] <funkyHat> ok, create that partition now
[12:14] <PhoenixP3K> and then?
[12:14] <funkyHat> and then use the option i mentioned in the ubuntu installer
[12:14] <funkyHat> automatically partition free space
[12:14] <baikonur> hi
[12:14] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat, "automatically partition free space" right?
[12:15] <funkyHat> you don't even have to bother formatting the partition you are creating now, just creat the partition
[12:15] <funkyHat> yes
[12:15] <baikonur> I would like to know, how to do the following (LILO) with grub: "other=/dev/hdb1 \  label=Win98 \ map-drive = 0x80 \ to = 0x81 \  map-drive = 0x81 \ to = 0x80"?
[12:15] <PhoenixP3K> thankS!! funkyHat
[12:15] <topyli> PhoenixP3K: funkyHat is right. go ahead
[12:15] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, one thing to note (you may know this already) is that linux can't safely write to ntfs
[12:15] <funkyHat> so the other partition you make, you may want to format as fat32
[12:15] <test34> you can't drag a window from one workspace to another ?
[12:15] <G|Patrick> gn8
[12:15] <funkyHat> so that you can swap files between windows and linux
[12:16] <SymGeosis> bitmastro, you get my PM?
[12:16] <funkyHat> PhoenixP3K, one last thing!
[12:16] <funkyHat> oh actually, you're not using the manual partition editor in the installer, never mind ;)
[12:16] <topyli> hah
[12:16] <PhoenixP3K> funkyHat, so I make a fat32 partition. Thanks :D
[12:17] <mkyb14> anyone else have a problem with the install failing when it got to like 60% with some log crap
[12:17] <funkyHat> yes, both windows and linux can read and write fat32, so it's a good extra partition to have
[12:17] <PhoenixP3K> Thanks you all, see you guys when Ubuntu is installed ;)
[12:17] <funkyHat> :)
[12:18] <trigger_ph> @mkyb14 do u get a media read error?
[12:18] <mkyb14> no it gives this in...something log fail i'm gonna reinstall it right now and type the error in a sec
[12:18] <topyli> test34: not in gnome, as long as you're using the default metacity as a window manager. you can do through the dektop selector applet though
[12:18] <trigger_ph> ok
[12:19] <baikonur> wow this is easy to do with GRUB: map (hda), (hdb) map (hdb), (hda)
[12:19] <mkyb14> hmm it formats really quick. nice
[12:20] <LittleDan> I checked the md5sum and it was right, but it still doesn't recognize itself as ubuntu for some reason
[12:20] <erUSUL> topyli: i have dragged in the pager a window to another wokspace right now
[12:21] <mkyb14> ok it's installing the base system in a min i'll type the error
[12:21] <topyli> erUSUL: it works that way. it's just that metacity doesn't have sensitive desktop borders like classic X window managers do
[12:22] <topyli> like fvwm and enlightenment
[12:22] <cr4sh> hey can anyone help me with Rhymybox Music Player i have installed all the needed codecs and it was working before but now it gives me this error!!!
[12:22] <erUSUL> baikonur: try somthing with the hide command
[12:22] <tommy_h> hmmm, I cannot make any global variables...looks like they get local only
[12:22] <cr4sh> This is the ERROR: Got error opening "file:///media/win_d/Music/Rap%20%26%20Rnb%20Albums/OLD%20MIXE's/07-canibus-indisible-rfl.mp3": Could not start pipeline playing
[12:22] <nick01> hi; if I install ubuntu is there somebody that can help me configure lirc ? I wanna use that feature in the kde control center to control apps with my tv tuner remote
[12:22] <erUSUL> baikonur: in the stanza of win98 in menu.lst
[12:22] <nakata> cr4sh, your music sucks too much
[12:23] <nakata> try greenday
[12:23] <nick01> I meant any way possible
[12:23] <StyXman> I'm getting these when updating via apt:
[12:23] <StyXman> 19:14 [freenode]  -!-    #grulic perrito666 G+  0  n=Perrito@239-231-114-200.fibertel.com.ar [Horacio Francisco Sebastian del
[12:23] <nakata> ubuntu is fickle that way.
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[12:23] <StyXman> arm...
[12:23] <nick01> not kde- that's for kubuntu
[12:23] <nick01> I just wanna use lirc
[12:23] <StyXman> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[12:23] <korbinus> (quit
[12:23] <nick01> so I'll install either ubuntu or kubuntu- wheteer works
[12:23] <cr4sh> nakata: thanks. for ur opinion.. can you help
[12:23] <nick01> anyone good with lirc ?
[12:23] <nakata> sure
[12:24] <nakata> your gstreamer doesn't have a valid audio output plugin selected
[12:24] <nakata> check the faq about how to set that up
[12:24] <zblach> hi
[12:24] <nakata> i'm pretty sure it's in Getting Started too
[12:24] <erUSUL> cr4sh: maybe the extrange caracters in the path do not help much
[12:24] <zblach> how do i run a .jar file?
[12:24] <ryanthiessen> anyone else having a problem with no /dev/input/mice on the latest breezy?
[12:24] <nakata> zblach, unzip
[12:24] <zblach> nakata, its an executable jar
[12:25] <nakata> ryanthiessen, no problems here
[12:25] <nick01> java -jar xxxx.jar
[12:25] <nakata> ^
[12:25] <zblach> thanks nick01
[12:25] <ryanthiessen> nakata: thx
[12:25] <nakata> depending on what you're using anyway
[12:25] <nick01> np
[12:25] <nakata> i think that's the blackdown way
[12:25] <topyli> zblach: java -jar filename.jar
[12:25] <cr4sh> erUSUl: any suggestions
[12:26] <mkyb14> AHHHOK hers' the error 'unable to install initrd-tools,  an error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target sustem.  Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details'
[12:26] <alek> so i installed libnautilus-open-terminal and i know nothing of nautlus configs, is it possible to move the Open Terminal to the top of the menu?
[12:26] <nick01> no lirc expert here ? :|
[12:26] <mkyb14> google it
[12:26] <erUSUL> try what nakata says run gstreamer-properties
[12:26] <nakata> nick01, never got it working
[12:26] <nick01> :(
[12:26] <topyli> nick01: happens to mr
[12:27] <nick01> topyli: happens what ?
[12:27] <erUSUL> and select correct output (alsa or esd)
[12:27] <topyli> e everytime i have a problem :)
[12:27] <mkyb14> 	AHHHOK hers' the error 'unable to install initrd-tools, an error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target sustem. Check/target/var/log/ bootstrap.log for details'
[12:27] <trigger_ph> @mkyb14 and it stops there? no read activity from the CD?
[12:27] <erUSUL> nick01: not myself sorry :(
[12:27] <mkyb14> ? any takers
[12:27] <zblach> anyone here install the PRC into NWN?
[12:27] <nick01> topyli: so u're not a lirc expert ? :/
[12:28] <nick01> erUSUL: k
[12:28] <mkyb14> no it lets me continue, but then immediatly says installation step failed
[12:28] <topyli> nick01: no, never got any ir stuff to work myself :(
[12:28] <mkyb14> then boots me back to the beginning to install the base system or copy remaining packages
[12:28] <erUSUL> mkyb14: have you checked /var/log/bootstrap.log as it says
[12:28] <nick01> k tks
[12:29] <mkyb14> i can't, ti's still on the setup
[12:29] <mkyb14> how'm i supposed to access that when it's not fulling installed
[12:29] <trigger_ph> @mkyb14 the last time i got that kind of error, my CDROM drive wasn't capable of reading the installer CD, which was burned at a higher speed
[12:30] <erUSUL> mkyb14: Crt Alt Fn to change to another virtual terminal an see the file
[12:30] <ompaul> mkyb14, there is one thing you can do, choose server install  by typing server at the prompt at the start of the install - when that is done do this login and type this >>> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop <<< that works in some cases like yours
[12:30] <trigger_ph> brb
[12:30] <mkyb14> fn?
[12:30] <erUSUL> mkyb14: F2 for example or F3
[12:31] <mkyb14> i'm gonna let it finish installing the remaining packages and see if that works
[12:31] <mkyb14> i burned it on to a cd-rw
[12:33] <macroexp> does anyone here run mythtv? I've got it installed, and it works, but it's missing mythjobqueue
[12:33] <macroexp> so i'm wondering if i should try different packages
[12:35] <mkyb14> eh i'll try my other cd-rom drive before going backwards
[12:35] <baikonur> erUSUL: wow this is easy to do with GRUB: map (hda), (hdb) map (hdb), (hda)
[12:35] <mkyb14> i really want this to work after reading about ubuntu lastnight
[12:35] <ugo> could someone tell me what the developer channel is
[12:36] <ugo> i have a few issues id like to discuss with the team....thanks
[12:36] <erUSUL> baikonur: nice to know ;)
[12:36] <vader1102> ugo, no idea
[12:38] <oscarh> hi... i am having problem with native charecters in the console and also in applications such as vim
[12:38] <oscarh> i use a UTF-8 locale
[12:38] <oscarh> and afaik i did not have this problem fram the begining
[12:38] <oscarh> can someone just point me in a direction?
[12:40] <sylvain> salut
[12:40] <vladuz976> how do you upgrade from warty to hoary with aptitude
[12:41] <funkyHat> vladuz976, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:41] <nalioth> vladuz976: you modify your /etc/apt/sources.list to change each 'warty' to 'hoary', then dist-upgrade
[12:41] <funkyHat> remove (or comment out) the CD repository (top line)
[12:41] <vladuz976> nalioth, apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:41] <funkyHat> and replace every 'warty' to 'hoary'
[12:42] <funkyHat> *with
[12:42] <nalioth> vladuz976: after you change "warty" for "hoary"
[12:42] <funkyHat> nalioth, apt-get update?
[12:42] <vladuz976> nalioth, ok change that then "apt-get update" then "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[12:43] <erUSUL> vladuz976: sed -e 's/warty/hoary' -i /etc/apt/sources.list :D
[12:43] <nalioth> vladuz976: funkyHat brings up "apt-get update" after modifying your sources.list
[12:43] <vladuz976> erUSUL, what is that
[12:43] <ifyour555im666> hello
[12:43] <Gnonthgol> hi
[12:43] <funkyHat> hi
[12:43] <erUSUL> a way to change every warty to hoary in sources.list you can edit the file by hand too
[12:44] <vladuz976> erUSUL, what does sed do?
[12:44] <ifyour555im666> can some on help me im new to linux and would appreciate any help
[12:44] <erUSUL> vladuz976: sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list :D
[12:44] <funkyHat> ifyour555im666, just tell us what your problem is :)
[12:45] <ifyour555im666> I installed ubuntu yester day on my laptop and cant get my modem to auto detect
[12:45] <erUSUL> sed is an no interactive editor
[12:45] <ilpavox> seveas: installed the sun j2re package and the plugin/jvm is still crashing whenever i load a an applet in firefox.  any ideas?
[12:46] <bytefoo> hey umm...are there really 70 updates :X
[12:46] <vader1102> there was 55 yesterday
[12:47] <bytefoo> alright, mine shows 70
[12:47] <bytefoo> i was freaked out though, since that'a alot :X
[12:47] <vader1102> nawwwwwwwww
[12:47] <oscarh> noone who can point me in any direction regarding native characters not working in console?
[12:47] <nalioth> bytefoo: breezy will have regular heavy updates
[12:47] <bytefoo> no shit
[12:47] <bytefoo> that's because it will be new :/
[12:48] <funkyHat> lol
[12:48] <oscarh> the console shows two characters, like utf-8 decoded with latin1
[12:48] <funkyHat> XD my APT has Super Cow Powers
[12:48] <bytefoo> heh
[12:48] <funkyHat> well, my server's apt does anywas...
[12:48] <funkyHat> i don't know about this machine's one
[12:48] <bytefoo> i think i will color my apt :X
[12:48] <bytefoo> oh i run archlinux for servers :/
[12:49] <funkyHat> i run debian
[12:49] <bytefoo> cool
[12:49] <Gnonthgol> oscarh: workes for me. 
[12:49] <bytefoo> can we be friends
[12:49] <bytefoo> :)
[12:49] <bytefoo> :/
[12:49] <bytefoo> :(
[12:49] <funkyHat> :)
[12:49] <oscarh> Gnonthgol, oh well, not for me
[12:49] <oscarh> Gnonthgol, not in the console or in applications like vim
[12:49] <funkyHat> yes
[12:49] <oscarh> Gnonthgol, here it does 
[12:50] <ifyour555im666> can anyone tell me why my smart links modem wont auto detect
[12:50] <funkyHat> hahar. ubuntu's apt doesn't have super cow powers
[12:50] <funkyHat> it's a good job i have a server with debian on it
[12:50] <funkyHat> or i wouldn't have them
[12:50] <roham_> is it possible to upgrade to 5.10 without new installation?
[12:50] <funkyHat> yes
[12:50] <erUSUL> oscarh: it is in gnome-terminal
[12:50] <funkyHat> i did it today
[12:50] <erUSUL> ?
[12:50] <funkyHat> roham_, ^
[12:50] <vader1102> ifyour555im666, have you tried the wiki?
[12:51] <oscarh> erUSUL, in gnome-terminal it's ok
[12:51] <Gnonthgol> oscarh: maby it dont work then, just tested it
[12:51] <funkyHat> roham_, i tested out the live CD of the latest colony release first though ;), that might be a good idea
[12:51] <vader1102> I have had bad luck with some modems
[12:51] <roham_> funkyhat: how and is it more stable now? cause it is preview rel.
[12:51] <ifyour555im666> Ive tried forms not wiki
[12:51] <funkyHat> it's nearly perfect here, just a couple of things that are only broken because i've changed them before
[12:51] <Gnonthgol> erUSUL: I am using tty2 and cant get them to work
[12:52] <vader1102> Does someone have the URL for the wiki and modems?
[12:52] <pluggo> I'm running ubuntu on ppc on an eMac... the sounds are very quiet (and I've been through all the parts of the mixer). Any ideas?
[12:52] <oscarh> erUSUL, it does not work if i shut down X or hit ctrl + alt + f4 or something
[12:52] <roham_> funkyhat: is it many changes? and is the gnome better? heh
[12:52] <funkyHat> i haven't noticed anything different about gnome yet :P
[12:53] <roham_> funkyhat ok ... but u downloaded it and upgraded it ? cause i think you can use the "auto-updater"
[12:53] <pluggo> No?
[12:54] <funkyHat> roham_, no i downloaded the live CD just to test it, then when i was sure it worked (including the nVidia drivers) i took the CD out and rebooted, edited my sources.list and did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:54] <pluggo> The sounds are really loud when they first start, but soon (less than a second) after they become quiet.
[12:54] <funkyHat> heh, after sudo apt-get update
[12:54] <roham_> funkyhat... ok but why shouldnt it work?
[12:54] <funkyHat> no reason, i'm just paranoid ;)
[12:55] <kbob717> i need a reminder on how to get macromedia shockwave player.
[12:55] <Gnonthgol> Anyone know how to use irssi?
[12:55] <kbob717> and a typing tutor
[12:55] <robotgeek> Gnonthgol: http://irssi.org/help
[12:55] <kbob717> and kubuntu
[12:55] <funkyHat> i get some odd errors on boot actually, but i don't know how to view some kind of boot log so i can pastebin the error, or even look at it
[12:55] <roham_> funkyhat... hehe ok.. where can I find what I should do with the sources file?
[12:55] <roham_> how many people in here are using 5.10?
[12:56] <funkyHat> roham_, just comment out the CD line, and change 'hoary' for 'breezy' everywhere it appears
[12:56] <Gnonthgol> robotgeek: But I got no gui
[12:57] <funkyHat> Gnonthgol, use a text based browser then :P
[12:57] <bytefoo> someone has stolen my pie :|
[12:57] <robotgeek> Gnonthgol: elinks / lynx works too
[12:57] <funkyHat> bytefoo, it was me
[12:57] <bytefoo> bastard
[12:57] <funkyHat> XD
[12:57] <bytefoo> ;[
[12:58] <robotgeek> !tell me about language
[12:58] <nalioth> bytefoo: language please
[12:58] <erUSUL> !tell me about language
[12:58] <funkyHat> no entry guys ;)
[12:58] <robotgeek> erUSUL: :)
[12:58] <bytefoo> :)
[12:58] <funkyHat> oh and...
[12:58] <erUSUL> XD
[12:59] <funkyHat> /msg ubotu language
[12:59] <funkyHat> ;)
[12:59] <bytefoo> language eh
[12:59] <funkyHat> ;)
[12:59] <Gnonthgol> robotgeek: I know but cause of a charter error Lynx displays things wrong
[12:59] <war-totem> ive installed eterm in fluxbox but typing eterm in the console doesnt run it
[12:59] <Gnonthgol> ! language
[12:59] <ubotu> Gnonthgol: What?
[12:59] <war-totem> and i cant find it in any of the menus
[12:59] <robotgeek> Gnonthgol: what u using right now?
[12:59] <war-totem> anyone know whats up?
[12:59] <steve___> when i resume from hibernation i get "unable to find volume group hda1"
[01:00] <steve___> using breezy badger PR3
[01:00] <Gnonthgol> robotgeek: I am using irssi on a PC without gui
[01:00] <robotgeek> Gnonthgol: then what do u need to find out about irssi?
[01:00] <erUSUL> war-totem: run 'which eterm'
[01:00] <war-totem> enlightenment term erUSUL
[01:01] <war-totem> i downloaded them in synaptic
[01:01] <robotgeek> Gnonthgol: most info is present in /usr/share/doc/irssi-text , if you installed the doc packages
[01:01] <Gnonthgol> robotgeek: ok
[01:01] <erUSUL> run the comand "which eterm" to see where the system thinks it is installed ;)
[01:02] <war-totem> oh
[01:02] <war-totem> hehe
[01:02] <war-totem> one sec
[01:02] <freedomjazzdance> is there a way to watch someone on a ssh session?
[01:02] <thierry> freedomjazzdance : maybe vlc, I'm not sure
[01:02] <bytefoo> mitm attack :|
[01:02] <war-totem> which eterm doesnt do anything
[01:02] <pluggo> Install VNC on the computer that they're using to connect  :)
[01:03] <erUSUL> war-totem: are you sure that you installed eterm? if it's installed it should say something like /usr/bin/eterm
[01:03] <thierry> yeah VNC sorry
[01:03] <war-totem> positive
[01:03] <war-totem> synaptic installed it and reinstalled it
[01:04] <freedomjazzdance> thierry,  do you mean vnc?
[01:04] <freedomjazzdance> thierry, ahh thanks
[01:05] <freedomjazzdance> how do you see whos logged on your system?
[01:05] <funkyHat> freedomjazzdance, users
[01:05] <freedomjazzdance> and is there a log of what commands they're running
[01:05] <pluggo> freedom: The "w" command
[01:05] <peanut> #kubuntu
[01:07] <erUSUL> war-totem: well try "updatedb && locate eterm"
[01:07] <abbot45> ok.  im completly new to networking.  all im trying to do right now is set up a static IP so i can forward ports.  ive been leeching for the last couple weeks but now ive got a WRT54G.  how can i tell if im actually getting the connection from my router?
[01:08] <freedomjazzdance> what about what they've done from the prompt, is that stored somewhere?
[01:08] <war-totem> ill try it
[01:08] <difeta> where can i find packages for network manager?
[01:08] <robotgeek> difeta: are on breezy?
[01:08] <war-totem> if not, whats another way to set a background in fluxbox?
[01:09] <pluggo> abbot45: run "nc -l -p portnumber" and try connecting from a computer on the outside
[01:09] <shinu> how can i unzip many files at once?
[01:09] <shinu> unzip * doesnt really work
[01:09] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45,  what are you trying to do?
[01:09] <ZeroCarontE> i just recieved the shipped ubuntu cds, but when i try to install it, i have that same problem (but the using_dma:0 thing didnt helped): http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2640
[01:09] <difeta> robotgeek, is it available in breezy? I'm still waiting for the breezy stable release
[01:09] <abbot45> freedomjazzdance, set up my router that i just got.
[01:09] <ZeroCarontE> any other suggestion?
[01:09] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45,  setting up a wireless router right>
[01:09] <abbot45> freedomjazzdance, yup
[01:09] <robotgeek> difeta: not yet, but should be hitting the repos soon
[01:10] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45, do you need to set it up on a windows computer first?
[01:10] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45, what kind of router is it?
[01:10] <pluggo> abbot45: Did you tell the port to forward in the web interface yet?
[01:10] <robotgeek> difeta: you might just want to compile from cvs
[01:10] <abbot45> freedomjazzdance, but the wifi light is not flashing on the router, so i'm wondering if im still grabbing someone elses connection in a different apt.
[01:11] <abbot45> its a WRT56G
[01:11] <war-totem> erUSUL, how long is that command supposed to take?
[01:11] <CompBrain> Hello: Trying to install Ubuntu Breezy PR on an AMD 64 X2 4200+, 2GB ram, and its hanging at 'Storing Language (96%)'
[01:11] <funkyHat> where is the boot up log stored? i need to pastebin some of it and ask how to fix it :P
[01:11] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45, ok well type iwconfig to see what network you are connected to
[01:11] <abbot45> pluggo, i put 192.168.1.1 in my browser like it says on portforward.com but it times out.
[01:11] <CompBrain> I tried both the net installer, and the full iso
[01:11] <erUSUL> war-totem: it depends on the size of the filesystem and the number of files
[01:12] <war-totem> erUSUL, never mind it finished nad it found a lot of stuff with eterm
[01:12] <CompBrain> and both fail at the same spot, any suggestions?
[01:12] <war-totem> whats the next step
[01:12] <erUSUL> war-totem: locate eterm | grep bin ?
[01:12] <abbot45> it says Nickname:"Prism I".  thats not mine.
[01:12] <nicholas> well, because I am bold I installed breezy PR
[01:13] <nicholas> all is well...
[01:13] <nicholas> for now
[01:13] <nicholas> L)
[01:13] <abbot45> how do i make it grab my router?
[01:13] <pluggo> abbot45: You're probably connected to your neighbor, then. Do you have a box with a wired ethernet connect?
[01:13] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45, try system>admin>networking
[01:13] <neipalow> hi
[01:13] <abbot45> pluggo, i don't have a wired etho card in my box.
[01:14] <war-totem> it seems to be in /usr/bin
[01:14] <SymGeosis> abbot45, what is your problem?
[01:14] <war-totem> sorry, usr/share
[01:14] <abbot45> SymGeosis, im trying to set up my wireless router, but it keeps grabbing the neighbors connection.
[01:14] <SymGeosis> abbot45, I think it may be similiar to a problem I had, though I just walked in on this convo.
[01:14] <erUSUL> war-totem: /usr/bin/eterm ?
[01:14] <neipalow> i have a cuestion... exist a emulator of dos fot linux ubuntu??
[01:14] <Zodiac> Hello all
[01:14] <Zodiac> question for ya...
[01:14] <abbot45> freedomjazzdance, im in that, but it doesnt like list the available connections.
[01:15] <Zodiac> Is the Gstreamer thats included in Breezy better equiped to play DVDs?
[01:15] <SymGeosis> Zodiac, I've had the same luck with DVDs as I had on Hoary.
[01:15] <Zodiac> So Totem Xine should be installed is what your saying?
[01:16] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45, in properties of the wireless device there should be a pulldown menu for essid
[01:16] <abbot45> iwconfig also says my link quality is 46/92, but it should be much better than that.
[01:16] <SymGeosis> Zodiac, I'd recommend it, yes.
[01:16] <pluggo> abbot45: You can do a factory reset on those boxes by turning power off then powering it up with the reset button held in and holding it for 20 seconds. After that you should be able to connect over wifi.
[01:16] <Zodiac> poop
[01:16] <Zodiac> ok
[01:16] <abbot45> freedomjazzdance, it just says "any" and doesnt give any other options.
[01:16] <pluggo> What essid are you trying?
[01:16] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: hi
[01:16] <war-totem> no
[01:16] <cevizoglu> robotgeek, hi
[01:17] <erUSUL> war-totem: run "sudo apt-get install eterm" i think that it is not installed
[01:17] <difeta> how stable is the preview release of breezy? I'd like to upgrade
[01:17] <war-totem> all i seem to be seeing is /usr/share/doc/eterm
[01:17] <cevizoglu> robotgeek, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2170
[01:17] <abbot45> pluggo, are you talking "box" as in computer or router.  ive got wired outs on my router, but not wired ins on my computer.  i took my ethernet card out to make room for other things.  i don't even think i have an extra one here.
[01:17] <zorba64> difeta: seems to be fine...X is a little laggy
[01:17] <robotgeek> war-totem: try dpkg -L eterm
[01:18] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45, try iwlist scan
[01:18] <war-totem> ah
[01:18] <war-totem> i got it
[01:18] <war-totem> thanks for your help guys
[01:18] <mlopes> hi. The volume control standing on the top bar only controls gnome sounds.. how can I set it up to control the master sound? sounds, etc..
[01:18] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: nope, will not work!! it's broadcom
[01:19] <abbot45> freedomjazzdance, "eth0      Failed to read scan data : Operation not supported"
[01:19] <cevizoglu> robotgeek, that's odd the model number matches yours.. those buggers
[01:19] <linner> hey ya'll... how's it hangin'?
[01:19] <mlopes> totem has independent volume control.. but I want to make it the same
[01:19] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: i know, did the FCC iD match?
[01:19] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: guess I will get it from ebay, several sellers posted the fcc id there which I don't think can be mistaken for another model
[01:19] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45,  is eth0 your wireless?
[01:19] <abbot45> damnit.  ive got a friend who's a linux network admin but he isn't around.
[01:19] <abbot45> freedomjazzdance, i believe so.
[01:19] <linner> I'm curious has anyone successfully sync'd to Evolution with their palm based PDA?
[01:20] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: :)
[01:20] <ttyS0> my isp uses pap-authentication and has callback function aswell. i've tried to dial its pool but after authentication it didn't want to disconnect & wait for call and just started pppd (i'm talking about kppp, of course). any advices?
[01:20] <cevizoglu> robotgeek, no, they don't put it on the outside of the box
[01:20] <pluggo> abbot45: I meant computer, something you could connect directly to the router.
[01:20] <linner> It seems I can only sync my contacts and nothing else.
[01:20] <linner> :(
[01:20] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: where did u get it from...just tell them it doesn't work, and they shud give u your $$ back
[01:20] <abbot45> pluggo, no.  i dont have a wired ethernet card in my computer.  just the wireless.
[01:20] <difeta> how do i get gamin to start upon boot?
[01:20] <freedomjazzdance> abbot45, when you do iwconfig is this the device it shows?
[01:20] <lilricky> anyone running breezy on AMD64 and has gotten their ATI card running 3d?
[01:20] <pluggo> I think it's "iwlist scanning" not "iwlist scan"
[01:20] <abbot45> freedomjazzdance, yes.  its using eth0 to connect to my neighbor.
[01:20] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: yeah, I just did.. this is try #2  :P   lol
[01:21] <cevizoglu> robotgeek, I should do better on ebay this time  :)
[01:21] <pluggo> Does your neighbor use the "linksys" essid?
[01:21] <freedomjazzdance> pluggo,  they do the exact same thing
[01:21] <erUSUL> difeta: save your sesion when you log out or shutdown your computer
[01:21] <bushk> iwlist <device> scanning (scan is an abrev that is not always supported)
[01:21] <abbot45> pluggo, does the same thing
[01:21] <robotgeek> cevizoglu: :) try looking up on the wireless cards list too, might be helpful... http://linux-wlan.org
[01:21] <linner> hmmm... any suggestions as what I should use?
[01:21] <pluggo> Ah, when I was first playing with wireless on linux "scanning" was the only one that worked :)
[01:21] <abbot45> pluggo, i dont know what, what would tell me that?
[01:21] <difeta> erUSUL, why would that help? I just rebooted a minute ago.
[01:22] <linner> meaning what software program that will let me sync everything on my palm?
[01:22] <popey> on hoary, I just installed some more memory in my laptop, changed the kernel to -686 from -386 and now the X nvidia module wont load.. any ideas?
[01:22] <pluggo> abbot: iwconfig without arguments should tell you what you're connected to
[01:22] <abbot45> no.  when i do iwconfig it says ESSID:"WLAN"
[01:23] <pluggo> Try "iwconfig interfacename essid linksys" then running "dhclient interfacename" (AFTER logging off! this will break your connection! :) )
[01:23] <linner> I'll take that as a no... or I'm being ignored. :(
[01:23] <erUSUL> difeta: sorry missread gaim :(
[01:23] <linner> aftertaf!  i didn't see you there
[01:23] <difeta> erUSUL, ahh
[01:25] <zorba64> linner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyPalmDeviceSetup?highlight=%28palm%29
[01:25] <linner> thank you zorba64
[01:25] <cevizoglu> robotgeek: I got the fcc id from the seller, it's PY3WG511-F and the same one is on prism54 with card id of PY3WG511-F
[01:25] <linner> let me check it out
[01:25] <SuperQ> oh yea.. I wonder if the Treo650 will work with breezy
[01:25] <cevizoglu> robotgeek, looks like my chances of success are 90%  :D
[01:25] <adamhill> how does one force a hardware detection? (for ethenet devices)
[01:25] <cevizoglu> robotgeek, that would be network card #6 I will try
[01:26] <michelp> hi guys, i'm installing latest ubuntu amd on my new amd 64 laptop.  It came with XP.  Everything went smooth up to when I chose "resize partition automatically" now there is a blank screen and nothing is happening, although I can flip to the other consoles with Alt-F2, etc
[01:26] <pluggo> linner: I've used coldsync before when I had a Clie.
[01:26] <michelp> kinda sounds like it is running something in the background, does resizing take a while?
[01:26] <abbot45> i just tried changing the ESSID from any to linksys.  didn't work.  is that suppost to be the default?
[01:26] <michelp> i can wait all day ;)
[01:27] <linner> pluggo what OS was it?
[01:27] <Hergiswi> brb
[01:27] <linner> zorba64, I get the hotsync utility to see my palm... that's not the problem.
[01:27] <Hello_World> Hi, can somebody help me with my sound card? It supports 6 Channels, but only the 2 front channels actually work :(
[01:28] <linner> zorba64, I went ahead and made the changes the article suggested...
[01:28] <mlopes> come on, doesn't anyone know how to "unify" the volume control? I just want one controller to rule them all :-)
[01:28] <linner> zorba64, I'll let you know in a minute if it helped any.
[01:28] <phoenixp3k> Hi every one, I have a password problem
[01:28] <funkyHat> Hello_World, make sure all the controls are enabled in the volume control program, and make sure that 6 channels is enabled, there may be an option for the number of channels for your soundcard
[01:29] <pluggo> Hopefully I have a password solution, phoenixp3k
[01:29] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, had the same prob last time I installed Ubunty
[01:29] <phoenixp3k> *ubuntu
[01:29] <pluggo> What's the problem?
[01:29] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, both root and my user password do not let me access the updater
[01:29] <Hello_World> funkyHat, Thanks. All Channels are set to the max. Volume. Where can i set the nuber of channels?
[01:30] <Hello_World> *number
[01:30] <funkyHat> Hello_World, click edit, preferences, and tick all the boxes
[01:30] <ben_underscore> hello all
[01:30] <phoenixp3k> /usr/bin/update-manager:
[01:30] <phoenixp3k> Child terminated with 1 status
[01:30] <funkyHat> especially if there's one called 'channel mode'
[01:30] <Hello_World> hm
[01:30] <ben_underscore> i have a problem connecting a ntfs usb drive to my ubuntu -- anyone help?
[01:31] <Hello_World> funkyHat, i don't use GNOME but KDE.
[01:31] <pluggo> phoenix: Are you logged in to it now?
[01:31] <funkyHat> oh right
[01:31] <gnat42> Hello, question on using updating some packages on breezy
[01:31] <Hello_World> however everything seems to be enabled in KMix
[01:31] <D1> anyone know how slow a usb 1.1 scanner would be?
[01:31] <gnat42> anyone know how I can update the relevant alsa packages to their development version
[01:31] <zorba64> ben_underscore: what sort of prob
[01:31] <gnat42> my soundcard
[01:32] <gnat42> is a CMedia CMI8768
[01:32] <ben_underscore> zorba64, it doesn't mount
[01:32] <gnat42> and is detected as CMI8738
[01:32] <funkyHat> ben_underscore, , see what ubotu is about to say:
[01:32] <funkyHat> !ntfs
[01:32] <war-totem> can someone tell me whats the off topic ubuntu channel is?
[01:32] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[01:32] <zorba64> try sudo modprobe ntfs then try mounting it
[01:32] <gnat42> they have patched their snd-cmipci.c in alsa to support it
[01:32] <phoenixp3k> can any one put me in the right direction? I'm trying to access update-manager
[01:32] <MyLeftNut> I ran the synaptic update earlier and now I can't get to log in screen. The Nvidia screen comes up but it just goes to error. I'm currently logged in through KNOPPIX so I can post logs. Tried recovery mode, no success.
[01:32] <nalioth> war-totem: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:33] <war-totem> simple enough
[01:33] <war-totem> thanks
[01:33] <pluggo> phoenixp3k: Are you logged into that machine now?
[01:33] <ben_underscore> zorba64, when i plug it in, it doesn't even show up in device manager
[01:33] <Hello_World> MyLeftNut, we need the error messagt
[01:33] <Hello_World> *message
[01:33] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, yup I'm using the same password I used to log in
[01:33] <MyLeftNut> Hello_World, is that stored in a log file?
[01:33] <Hello_World> i have no ideo
[01:34] <Hello_World> *idea
[01:34] <Hello_World> damn, i can't type :(
[01:34] <xGun> Hey does anyone know a good tv tuner application i can use with my tv wonder pro under ubuntu
[01:34] <pluggo> phoenixp3k: Did you ever set a root password?
[01:34] <johnnybezak> xGun: try xawtv
[01:34] <pluggo> xGun: I've heard good things about mythtv
[01:34] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, yes I did
[01:35] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, I tryed it as well
[01:35] <difeta> how can i login to my work's windows VPN?
[01:35] <xGun> Yea ive read about mythtv but im kinda still a linux noob and i heard that mythtv requires you to compile it yourself and what not.
[01:36] <pluggo> difeta: How do you log in from windows? Is it just an RDP connection or is it an actual VPN
[01:36] <avi> Hello!  I just tried opening up the help menu in OpenOffice.org 1.9.125, and it told me the help system could not be started.  How can I fix this?
[01:36] <zorba64> ben_underscore: paste your output from dmesg
[01:36] <difeta> pluggo, this is an auctual vpn. I need to connect to the vpn from my linux box at home
[01:37] <pluggo> phoenixp3k: Try "su" then "nano /etc/sudoers"
[01:37] <Hytak> Hello... need help setting up ppp. I tried with KPPP, pon and pppd call provider (yes, I modified /etc/ppp/peers/provider and /etc/ppp/chatscripts) but I'll say with KPPP the problem, it's same thing iwht other: KPPP find my modem right, it dial, light open on my modem... at the last stage it stick to "Logging on to network" for about 40 secondes and then... stop everything saying me error 15... any idea?
[01:37] <P8ntKid> How to i reconfigure my internet connections on ubuntu? Like, i installed ubuntu with my computer connected to the internet with a wire. But how to i configure my wireless connection?
[01:37] <pluggo> Wait, that'
[01:37] <pluggo> s not going to work :)
[01:37] <avi> P8ntKid: system -> preferences -> Network worked for me.
[01:37] <paco_> hey guys, I'm just curious if it's possible to write to an NTFS partition. In the getting started guide, they only show you how to mount an NTFS drive as read only, I'm wondering if they did this because it's bad to write to an NTFS partition through Linux
[01:37] <pluggo> Try su -c "usermod -G admin yourusername"
[01:38] <neo1> hi im new
[01:38] <xGun> Hi neo1
[01:38] <xGun> I am new also :)
[01:38] <zorba64> xGun: sudo apt-cache search mythtv
[01:38] <Versed`> P8  mine autoinstalled the wifi on installilation.
[01:38] <nalioth> paco_: writing to NTFS from linux is a good way to have an all linux box
[01:38] <xGun> zorba64: Thx mate ill try that
[01:38] <avi> P8ntKid: system -> preferences -> Networking worked for me.
[01:38] <avi> sorry 'bout the typo.
[01:39] <Hytak> Read my problem?
[01:39] <paco_> nalioth: in that it will screw up my NTFS partition?
[01:39] <ben_underscore> zorba64, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2171
[01:39] <avi> P8ntKid: Is your access point set up differently?  Like with WEP?
[01:39] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, messed up the command a bit
[01:39] <P8ntKid> avi: Im not sure.
[01:39] <nalioth> paco_: it can erase your NTFS partition
[01:39] <MyLeftNut> paco_, NTFS in linux s bad news. Stay away from it.
[01:39] <P8ntKid> Its built in though
[01:40] <avi> What is built in, P8ntKid?
[01:40] <paco_> really? That's kind of bad for me, I'm sorry to hear that... You've ruined my day, thanks.
[01:40] <nalioth> paco_: you can read from your NTFS all you like
[01:40] <nalioth> paco_: if you need windows/linux data sharing, i'd advise fat32
[01:40] <bimberi> paco_: a workaround is to create a FAT32 partition, both systems can write to that
[01:41] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, I put my password or the admin/root psswd?
[01:41] <paco_> yea, I've noticed. That bites, all my partitions are ntfs... Now to figure out how to transfer all my linux stuff onto my ntfs drive.
[01:41] <MyLeftNut> I ran the synaptic update earlier and now I can't get to log in screen. The Nvidia screen comes up but it just goes to error. I'm currently logged in through KNOPPIX so I can post logs. Tried recovery mode, no success.
[01:41] <paco_> is there a reliable way to make windows read my linux partition?
[01:41] <avi> paco_: I'm in the process of configuring a dual-boot (w/ WinXP & Ubuntu)... I created a FAT32 partition, moved docs over to it, and can work just fine with them from Ubuntu.
[01:41] <neo1> why does my player not playing mp3???
[01:41] <zorba64> ben_underscore: unplug &  plug the hard drive back in, run sudo dmesg and past the last 20 lines
[01:41] <ben_underscore> zorba64, ok
[01:41] <xGun> Yea i was also wondering how to get into my windows storage partition that i keep all my media files on... can't do that if its ntfs?
[01:42] <lsuactiafner> MyLeftNut : xorg was updated, i think
[01:42] <CompBrain> Does Breezy just take a long time at 'Storing Language'?
[01:42] <nalioth> paco_: use Partition Magic to convert your NTFS to fat32
[01:42] <avi> P8ntKid: What do you mean, not sure?  You set up the access point, right?  Or did someone else?
[01:42] <neo1> can anybody help me
[01:42] <lsuactiafner> so reinstall nvidia GL
[01:42] <funkyHat> xGun, linux can read ntfs fine
[01:42] <nalioth> paco_: ext2fs.sourceforge.net
[01:42] <avi> anyone able to answer my question, or should I repeat?
[01:42] <lsuactiafner> basically, apt-get install --reinstall packages_for_nvidia
[01:42] <paco_> xGun, you can do it if you only want to read. Look up the ubuntu starter guide and look at how to mount an ntfs drive as read-only
[01:42] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, It says usermod : admin group unknown
[01:42] <Hytak> Hello... need help setting up ppp. I tried with KPPP, pon and pppd call provider (yes, I modified /etc/ppp/peers/provider and /etc/ppp/chatscripts) but I'll say with KPPP the problem, it's same thing iwht other: KPPP find my modem right, it dial, light open on my modem... at the last stage it stick to "Logging on to network" for about 40 secondes and then... stop everything saying me error 15... any idea?
[01:42] <MyLeftNut> lsuactiafner,  is that verbatim what I should type?
[01:42] <xGun> paco: ok thx
[01:42] <lsuactiafner> ubotu tell MyLeftNut about nvidia
[01:42] <nalioth> avi: wait a few minutes, between repeating your question(s)
[01:43] <funkyHat> can parted safely resize nfts partitions?
[01:43] <paco_> is there a linux program that will convert my ntfs partition to fat32? That would save me some time (It's empty at the moment..)
[01:43] <lsuactiafner> just follow the guy and do --reinstall
[01:43] <lsuactiafner> paco_ : no.
[01:43] <avi> Hytak: I'd help (as I know PPP); unfort, I'm new to Ubuntu... :)
[01:43] <nalioth> funkyHat: yes, provided you defragment your NTFS first
[01:43] <funkyHat> paco_, no, and if there was, it would break your windows installation
[01:43] <ben_underscore> zorba64, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2172
[01:43] <Hytak> It seem no one anymore these time know ppp at all
[01:43] <funkyHat> nalioth, cool :)
[01:44] <xGun> I have another quick question, i have an ati 9800 xt, i am wondering if I need to do any extra steps after a clean install of 5.10 preview to get 3d acceleration working?
[01:44] <Hytak> Thinking of changing of distro, bag, ubuntu seemed nice
[01:44] <funkyHat> hmm... what about expanding vfat partitions from the beginning?
[01:44] <Hytak> bad*
[01:44] <paco_> cool, so far this ubuntu is really nice. I'm liking it.
[01:44] <nalioth> funkyHat: read the parted manpage first, eh?
[01:44] <avi> Hello!  I just tried opening up the help menu in OpenOffice.org 1.9.125, and it told me the help system could not be started.  How can I fix this?
[01:44] <funkyHat> ;)
[01:44] <zorba64> ben_underscore: its not even picking it up...bugger
[01:44] <paco_> of course I went a little nuts with apt-get and now my sound doesn't work... but i'll work on that. :)
[01:44] <ben_underscore> zorba64, that's what i thought.
[01:45] <paco_> is mythtv worth switching to linux for?
[01:45] <linner> nope... now I can't get it to sync at all!
[01:45] <linner> this is maddening
[01:45] <P8ntKid> avi: Its not configureing my wireless setting correctly cuase im not connected to the internet.
[01:45] <avi> what is mythTV?
[01:45] <neo1> ???????MP3?????
[01:45] <avi> P8ntKid: do you mean your access point is not connected to the internet?
[01:45] <paco_> mythTV is some pvr software for linux that I heard about. My motivation for trying out ubuntu
[01:45] <xGun> Paco: from what i've read about mythtv, its actually easier to download Knoppmyth and install that
[01:45] <P8ntKid> avi: Yes
[01:45] <avi> sweet, I gotta check that out myself.
[01:45] <ben_underscore> zorba64, it's for my wife, who has a mac powerbook. her work sent her this usb disk drive and she cannot get it to work on the mac. which is weird  because it supports ntfs (write)
[01:45] <phoenixp3k> :(
[01:45] <P8ntKid> avi: No, my wireless card isnt connecting to the internet
[01:46] <phoenixp3k> :'(
[01:46] <paco_> xGun, really? How come?
[01:46] <nalioth> funkyHat: parted is capable of many unique things. read the man page or the internet homepage for it
[01:46] <phoenixp3k> My passwords are not working
[01:46] <avi> P8ntKid: shouldn't make a difference in connected to the access point
[01:46] <funkyHat> ok, i will :)
[01:46] <ben_underscore> zorba64, so i thought i'd test it out with ubuntu -- usually works for other drives, so perhaps the drive is fucked
[01:46] <michelp> so what's the difference between "Erease entire disk" and "Erease entire disk and use LVM"?
[01:46] <xGun> Paco:  Because they have created a simple "dumbed" down install process that loads mythtv onto your pc just as if you were installing a linux distro.
[01:47] <mlopes> when I hit the volume up/volume down keys on my laptop (fn + f10/f11)it controls the master
[01:47] <michelp> i willing to sacrifice dual boot to get it up and running today
[01:47] <mlopes> how can I configure it to control the headphones?
[01:47] <neo1> dann halt nicht
[01:47] <zorba64> ben_underscore: it might just be
[01:47] <xGun> Right now i'm working on getting mythTV under ubuntu, no luck yet :\
[01:47] <Quinthius> michelp: one uses lvm, one doesnt...
[01:47] <MyLeftNut> lsuactiafner,  thanks for the help, I'll let y'all know if I get on okay. Cheers guys
[01:48] <ben_underscore> zorba64, thanks for your help!
[01:48] <michelp> Quinthius, would the use of LVM be desireable for just a daily ubuntu user?  or is it harmless not to use it?
[01:48] <paco_> that bites. From what I remember, knoppMyth is using an older release of mythtv
[01:48] <pluggo> Sorry I wandered off there. My cousin called who I haven't heard from in years.
[01:48] <tag> What do I use to rip a cd?
[01:48] <nalioth> michelp: LVM is for use if you want to use more than one HD, you can safely not use it
[01:48] <nalioth> tag: grip
[01:49] <james_> is there something specific I have to do to an office file, in order to get word to be able to open it properly, without it being all garbeled?
[01:49] <michelp> nalioth, thanks!
[01:49] <avi> P8ntKid:  Here's the way it works.  You connect to your access point (usually a wireless router) from your computer.  The access point connects to the internet.
[01:49] <Quinthius> michelp: it's fine not to use it. it allows for things like easier repartitioning, combining drives together into one "virtual" drive, etc.
[01:49] <P8ntKid> avi: Its not connecting to my router
[01:49] <pluggo> phoenixp3k: If you just type "sudo" in a shell does it let you in with your password?
[01:49] <zorba64> james_: save it as ms word .doc
[01:49] <pluggo> er,, just "sudo sh"
[01:49] <avi> p8ntKid: exactly.  That's what I'm trying to diagnose with you...
[01:49] <P8ntKid> avi: ok
[01:50] <P8ntKid> avi: How can i configure it so it does?
[01:50] <reiki> woot! got my mplayer plugin working in firefox :)
[01:50] <james_> ok I guess i didn't think of that duh, thank you
[01:50] <avi> p8ntKid: Did you try System -> Administration -> Networking?
[01:50] <neo1> Channel333
[01:50] <P8ntKid> avi: Yes
[01:50] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, If I just time sudo it tells me the options of sudo
[01:50] <avi> P8ntKid: Okay, what did you do there?
[01:50] <Quinthius> michelp: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/ for more info if you want to play around with it
[01:50] <P8ntKid> avi: Hold on
[01:51] <Quinthius> michelp: main thing to remember is /boot has to be on a real partition, not a lvm volume
[01:51] <P8ntKid> avi: Nothing, cause i dont know what to do.
[01:51] <michelp> thanks guys ;) installation seems to be running normally
[01:51] <michelp> 64 bits here I come!
[01:51] <avi> P8ntKid: Okay, tell me... does it show a Wireless connection, and what is the status of it if it does?
[01:51] <jorgp2> where do I tell hoary to use fluxbox instead of gnome?
[01:51] <pluggo> phoenixp3k, sorry, I meant "sudo sh"
[01:51] <funkyHat> vermyndax, well hopefully it's the best ubuntu at least ;)
[01:52] <phoenixp3k> See, it says: (I'M) is not in the sudoers file.
[01:52] <vermyndax> honestly I didn't care for the first two ubuntu releases - this preview release is the best thing I've run in a long time
[01:52] <Quinthius> jorgp2: it's not on your Sessions menu when you log in?
[01:52] <avi> Third time, folks... if no-one can help me, I'll try a different channel: Hello!  I just tried opening up the help menu in OpenOffice.org 1.9.125, and it told me the help system could not be started.  How can I fix this?
[01:52] <michelp> shit! my .iso download was corrupt :(
[01:52] <pluggo> OK. Try "su" and type your root password, then "nano /etc/sudoers"
[01:52] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, how can I add myself in the sudoers file
[01:53] <vermyndax> phoenixp3k: run "visudo"
[01:53] <reiki> avi: did you download and install the help system? I think you want to start synaptic and search openoffice and see if there's a help system to install
[01:53] <pluggo> At the bottom, add a line that says "yourusername ALL=(ALL) ALL"
[01:53] <avi> I'll give that a shot... thanks reiki!
[01:53] <phoenixp3k> vermyndax: visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[01:54] <tag> wow
[01:54] <tag> I guess you can't rip a track and play it at the same time
[01:54] <jorgp2> Quinthius: thanks
[01:54] <tag> hahah
[01:54] <peirthies> any of you by chance know a website that has some good doc on programming C in nix? more or less just looking for reference material really
[01:54] <paco_> vermyndax, what's the dif between the preview release and the others? What version are you running?
[01:54] <pluggo> heh, yeah, that may cause problems
[01:54] <vermyndax> paco_: running Breezy Badger
[01:54] <reiki> ok I gotta ask... is there a decent GAME for linux? Like... oh I don't know... anything graphic, shoot 'em up, whatever?
[01:54] <LadyLinux> Hello all.
[01:54] <vermyndax> reiki: enemy territory
[01:54] <paco_> vermyndax, cool. I'm not sure what I'm running. How do I find out?
[01:55] <peirthies> reiki: quake3, doom3, and Unreal tournament all run in here
[01:55] <vermyndax> reiki: bzflag
[01:55] <rob_p> phoenixp3k:  you need to run visudo with root privs.
[01:55] <reiki> thanks vermyndax ... I'll google that one
[01:55] <vermyndax> anything UT and id software runs on linux
[01:55] <paco_> ah, there we go, 5.04 - Hoary Hedgehog release.
[01:55] <paco_> what's the dif?
[01:55] <vermyndax> reiki: enemy territory may even be in synaptic
[01:55] <LadyLinux> bob2: Jave worked for netzero.  Modem has a bug in the ubuntu software, don't work.
[01:55] <reiki> peirthies, really?  hmmm... I might start having fun again. I
[01:55] <james_> I can't save any files to my floppy disk, when I try to it says I am not the owner of that drive, so I don't have permission to write to that folder
[01:55] <phoenixp3k> rob_p, all right how do I do that...
[01:56] <vermyndax> I have a weird OpenOffice problem too - when I run it for the first time, nothing happens... then I run it again and it pops up two windows
[01:56] <avi> reiki: I can't find openoffice help...
[01:56] <pluggo> phoenixp3k: su -c "nano /etc/sudoers"
[01:56] <peirthies> reiki you need to own those games, but usually the prospective games site will have more info about it
[01:56] <vermyndax> but the help system isn't working for me either
[01:56] <rob_p> phoenixp3k:  open a console and type, "su" and then enter your root password.
[01:56] <reiki> peirthies, ok I'll look them up
[01:56] <reiki> avi hold on... let me chck
[01:56] <avi> reiki: I'm running a search right now... ah, fount it!
[01:57] <darknature> ok how do i make my printer work on gnome
[01:57] <darknature> it identified its usb connections but it won't let me print
[01:57] <avi> reiki: should I be looking for openoffice.org2 help, or the standard openoffice.org help?
[01:57] <phoenixp3k> pluggo, rob_p . It's in the terminal window, I add myself there?
[01:58] <pluggo> Yes. Add a line that says "yourusername ALL=(ALL) ALL"
[01:58] <reiki> avi: the standard on... listed BELOW the openoffice2 ones
[01:58] <rob_p> phoenixp3k:  were you able to open the sudoers file with visudo?
[01:58] <phoenixp3k> it says # This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root. ( pluggo)
[01:58] <funkyHat> pluggo, no no
[01:58] <Dre> hello
[01:58] <avi> Okay, I'll install that one... thanks, reiki; you've been a big help!
[01:58] <funkyHat> pluggo, just add yourself to the group 'admin'
[01:58] <reiki> avi: like... openoffice.org-help-en for english help
[01:58] <pluggo> She doesn't have the group admin.
[01:58] <avi> P8ntKid, did you see my last question?
[01:58] <rob_p> phoenixp3k:  You have to use visudo to edit that file.
[01:58] <pluggo> He?
[01:58] <james_> How do I make myself the administrator?
[01:58] <pluggo> She?
[01:58] <pluggo> Not sure.
[01:58] <pluggo> :)
[01:59] <funkyHat> james_, add yourself to the 'admin' group
[01:59] <phoenixp3k> rob_p, yes I'm using visudo now
[01:59] <funkyHat> anyone in the admin group has full sudo access
[01:59] <LadyLinux> Has anyone fixed the bug in the ubuntu software for the smartlink SL1900 PCI modem?
[01:59] <darknature> doesn't anyone know why my printer won't print...the device manager has found the usb connections already
[01:59] <rob_p> phoenixp3k:  Ok.  Now add the line, "your_username  ALL=(ALL) ALL" to it and save it.
[01:59] <P8ntKid> avi: Yes, hold on though. Ill get back to you in a minute
[01:59] <pluggo> funkyHat: Not if the admin group doesn't exist.
[01:59] <vermyndax> the package is openoffice.org-help-en
[01:59] <arcanistherogue> what are some of the good linux habits ubuntu teaches you?  i hear this alot...
[02:00] <avi> no prob, P8ntKid, I'll be here...
[02:00] <funkyHat> pluggo, has it been deleted then?
[02:00] <paco_> is it worth upgrading from 5.04 to 5.10 preview?
[02:00] <vermyndax> paco_: yes very
[02:00] <vermyndax> paco_: I'm lovin 5.10
[02:00] <erisco> hello, i am trying to find an adobe photoshop skin for gimp. anyone know where I can get such a thing?
[02:00] <pluggo> funkyHat: Not sure. I tried telling him/her to add him/herself to the group admin, but usermod balked because admin doesn't exist.
[02:00] <paco_> vermyndax,  can I do it without reinstalling?
[02:00] <gnat42> anyone using a CMI8768 audio card here?
[02:00] <vermyndax> paco_: I dunno about that, sorry
[02:00] <Quinthius> paco_: just don't expect it to work flawlessly just yet... there are still some bugs floating around
[02:01] <harrytuttle> erisco: you mean gimpshop?
[02:01] <LadyLinux> Anyone here from TX, NM, OK area?
[02:01] <phoenixp3k> ^O is that how I save? rob_p
[02:01] <james_> in the properties of the admin group it says that I am the only group user, is that all I need?
[02:01] <pluggo> And just blindly adding it will give it a different group ID than it had before, so if any files are owned by the admin group they wouldn't be accessible.
[02:01] <paco_> Quinthius, that's cool
[02:01] <darknature> doesn't anyone know why my printer won't print...the device manager has found the usb connections already
[02:01] <SlicerDicer-> anybody know how to force eject a cd?
[02:01] <LadyLinux> I'm wanting to find a Linux group.
[02:02] <funkyHat> pluggo, phoenixp3k, edit the file /etc/group and add a line admin:x:193:*username*
[02:02] <SlicerDicer-> I cant get my cd out and its driving me nuts
[02:02] <bimberi> funkyHat, pluggo: my laptop doesn't have the admin group - it was upgraded from warty.  Native hoary installs have it
[02:02] <Quinthius> SlicerDicer-: unmount it first?
[02:02] <linner> hey ya'll ... how do I access my linux box from a windows machine?
[02:02] <rob_p> phoenixp3k:  I can't remember.  I think ctrl-x but there should be a menu at the bottom.
[02:02] <pluggo> darknature: Have you set up the printer in System->Administration->Printing?
[02:02] <funkyHat> (note= doesn't have to be 193, that's just a good guess at a gid that's not in use)
[02:02] <paco_> linner, use VNC
[02:02] <vermyndax> hrm now I can't even get openoffice to run... oh wait there it is... man that is SLOW
[02:02] <darknature> yeah i have
[02:02] <linner> paco_, what's VNC?
[02:02] <funkyHat> bimberi, ah, makes sense now :)
[02:02] <pluggo> My machine does have admin. It's phoenixp3k that doesn't. :)
[02:03] <paco_> linner, google it. It's like remote desktop for windows (I'm pretty sure it came out first actually)
[02:03] <linner> i want to be able to upload a file folder from my windows machine to my Linux box
[02:03] <linner> oh okay
[02:03] <linner> paco_, I'll find it now
[02:03] <linner> paco_, I should tell you the computers are side by side
[02:03] <SlicerDicer-> Quinthius, that would be all well in good if it did not say busy
[02:03] <funkyHat> paco_, i don't think it's VNC he wants...
[02:03] <pluggo> linner: You can use filezilla (filezilla.sf.net) and upload over SSH
[02:03] <funkyHat> paco_, he wants something through which he can transfer files
[02:03] <SlicerDicer-> Quinthius, but I killed the tasks using it and I dont really want to reboot
[02:03] <Quinthius> SlicerDicer-: are you currently sitting in /media/cdrom0 in a terminal window or anything?
[02:04] <linner> pluggo, is that something I can get through synaptic
[02:04] <rob_p> phoenixp3k:  Yes, it's ctrl-X and when it asks you to save the modified buffer, say, "y" and it will be saved.
[02:04] <paco_> linner, yea, if it's just file sharing, set up a network, then set up a share in windows and access it through linux. Probably the easiest way
[02:04] <pluggo> linner: It's something you can get for Windows :) Install that on the windows box, then connect to your linux box with it
[02:04] <SlicerDicer-> ohh sure Quinthius I tried that
[02:04] <linner> paco_, any articles you can give me on setting up a network?
[02:04] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: really? lsof says no one is using it?
[02:04] <pluggo> linner: You can get it from http://filezilla.sf.net/
[02:04] <SlicerDicer-> Quinthius, err I tried unmounting it manually using that argh
[02:04] <SlicerDicer-> Quinthius, sorry misred you haha
[02:04] <LadyLinux> bob2: Hi.
[02:04] <linner> pluggo, thanks!!
[02:04] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, sec
[02:05] <bob2> right, so you haven't checked?
[02:05] <pluggo> linner: no problema :)
[02:05] <phoenixp3k> rob_p, funkyHat The visudo technique worked
[02:05] <gnat42> anyway to use oss sound instead of alsa?
[02:05] <Quinthius> SlicerDicer-: eh? i mean, if you are currently in /media/cdrom0 in a terminal window, it wont let you unmount it. so you have to cd to a different dir first
[02:05] <paco_> linner, do you have a router set up to connect the two computers or they're just sitting side by side?
[02:05] <rob_p> phoenixp3k:  Cool!  :-)
[02:05] <bob2> LadyLinux: aloha
[02:05] <SlicerDicer-> Quinthius, no I am not
[02:05] <funkyHat> phoenixp3k, cool :)
[02:05] <vermyndax> anyone know of a way to speed up openoffice startup?  use sun's java instead of blackdown maybe?
[02:06] <LadyLinux> bob2: Smartlink files from ubuntu has a bug in them, don't work.
[02:06] <vermyndax> too bad I'm on amd64 eh heheh
[02:06] <SlicerDicer-> bob2, is there any way to grep that? good god I got over 1000 lines and it overflowed my terminal heh
[02:06] <pluggo> SlicerDicer, "fuser -vm /media/cdrom0" will tell you the processes
[02:06] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: of course.....
[02:06] <SlicerDicer-> pluggo, thanks
[02:06] <funkyHat> phoenixp3k, my technique would have included using visudo anyway, so would have been more work for you anyway
[02:06] <bob2> lsof | grep cdrom
[02:06] <Quinthius> SlicerDicer-: do lsof /dev/hdc or whatever your cdrom dev is
[02:06] <bob2> LadyLinux: how do you know it has a bug?
[02:06] <phoenixp3k> funkyHat, it's ok :) I can enjoy Ubuntu once more!
[02:06] <bob2> oh, the linux-image/kernel-image thing?
[02:06] <pluggo> Or lsof works too :)
[02:06] <funkyHat> :)
[02:06] <LadyLinux> bob2: Someone has a Diamond Supramax serial modem for me.
[02:07] <bob2> cool
[02:07] <pluggo> Supramax. Now that just sounds fast.
[02:07] <phoenixp3k> funkyHat , rob_p , pluggo : Thanks for your help Guys! :D
[02:07] <pluggo> No prob phoenixp3k
[02:07] <SlicerDicer-> pluggo, bob2, Quinthius, nothing showed up
[02:07] <rob_p> phoenixp3k:  np.  have fun!
[02:07] <reiki> I remember when Telebit modems were da bomb... hehehe.... but then.... I'm old
[02:07] <LadyLinux> pluggo: It's a 56k external.  :)
[02:08] <reiki> it was a giant leap from 300 baud to 2400
[02:08] <bob2> SlicerDicer-: and 'sudo umount -l /media/cdrom0' does what?
[02:08] <bobby> I added a script into /etc/cron.daily... how do I make cron see it and execute it when it goes?
[02:08] <pluggo> bobby: chmod +x should be all you need
[02:08] <bob2> cron will ee it
[02:08] <bobby> hmm, well it didn't work the last two days?
[02:08] <LadyLinux> reiki: It's a better leap than a Winmodem wanna be modem
[02:08] <bobby> when I just ./script it executes correctly :|
[02:09] <reiki> LadyLinux, so true..... so true. I don't own any modems any more
[02:09] <bob2> bobby: ls -ld of it?
[02:09] <pluggo> bobby: This may be a dumb question, but is crond running?
[02:10] <SlicerDicer-> good man bob2 thanks
[02:10] <funkyHat> what's the command to turn on alsa oss emulation?
[02:10] <funkyHat> something like modprobe -v ......
[02:10] <LadyLinux> reiki: Why does ubuntu have all the files for a smartlink with a bug in it?
[02:10] <bobby> pluggo, well the other things that it should do are being done
[02:10] <bob2> it's already loaded
[02:11] <bobby> root@itworkshop2:/etc/cron.daily # ls -ld
[02:11] <reiki> LadyLinux, I haven't the faintest idea
[02:11] <bobby> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2005-09-12 16:00 .
[02:11] <bob2> snd_pcm_oss is the one
[02:11] <bob2> bobby: of the file you added...
[02:11] <funkyHat> why do applications execute differently depending on whether i run them through aoss or not then?
[02:11] <bobby> heh, missed that
[02:11] <bobby> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 99 2005-09-12 16:00 squid
[02:12] <bob2> funkyHat: how so?
[02:12] <ilpavox> anyone have trouble with java plugin and firefox after installing the sun's package and checking the sym links?
[02:12] <bob2> bobby: run-parts --test -v /etc/cron.daily  | grep squid
[02:13] <bobby> /etc/cron.daily/squid
[02:13] <bobby> no errors
[02:13] <bob2> that sounds a lot like it should be running then
[02:13] <bob2> you're really sure it's not?
[02:14] <bobby> definately, the folder where it should be moving the required file to doesn't recieve the file ... though if you run it ./squid it works fine
[02:14] <avi> P8ntKid: I'm totally willing to help, but I do have other things to do... if you're not ready for help right now, check to see if someone else is going to be around in here who can help.
[02:14] <bobby> (the squid task moves access.log to another folder for archieving)
[02:14] <pluggo> bobby: is it possible it's not running with permission to access that directory?
[02:14] <bob2> mmm, you should be using logrotate for that, anyway
[02:15] <bobby> bobby, erm, how is that defined?
[02:15] <bob2> but it should be running
[02:15] <bobby> bob2, yes - I wasn't able to find good documentation on logrotate
[02:15] <vermyndax> is it true there's no browser plugin for sun's java on amd64?
[02:16] <bob2> vermyndax: indeed
[02:16] <bob2> go proprietary software!
[02:16] <vermyndax> bob2: that is some suck
[02:16] <vermyndax> heh so I get to run two JVM's ;)
[02:16] <bob2> well, email sun and tell them you think it sucks
[02:17] <vermyndax> I emailed macromedia and told them what I thought of no flash support
[02:17] <bobby> bob2, got the idea of logrotate - thanks for saving me some time :)
[02:17] <funkyHat> bob2, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2173
[02:17] <LincTeK> hey war-totem did you get your network figured out ??
[02:17] <LadyLinux> bob2: I was able to install the smarlink files from sarge debian.  The drivers I could partially install.
[02:17] <shik45> hh
[02:17] <vermyndax> sure wish I could figure out what's up with openoffice though
[02:17] <funkyHat> bob2, i did the same thing with skype each time before exiting, made a call to echo123 (the echo test user)
[02:18] <bob2> LadyLinux: yeah, iirc, it depens on the wrong kernel name
[02:18] <kkrizka_> hi, how do you use usb cdroms with linux?
[02:18] <funkyHat> yes, dsp1 is the correct device :P
[02:18] <bob2> funkyHat: is something using /dev/dsp1?
[02:18] <bob2> vermyndax: it's an old old old codebase that isn't very portable
[02:18] <bob2> kkrizka_: plug them in
[02:18] <funkyHat> no, dsp1 is my second soundcard... i only use it for skype at the moment (well, i don't, cos it's not working :P)
[02:18] <kkrizka_> bob2: dosn't work, I had to install some firmware from the vendors site
[02:18] <vermyndax> bob2: yeah, but it's like, abysmally slow ;)
[02:18] <bob2> fuser -v /dev/dsp1 agrees?
[02:19] <bob2> kkrizka_: er, that's pretty crap
[02:19] <bob2> is it too late to return it?
[02:19] <kkrizka_> bob2: it's quite old, I just never bothered to use it under linux
[02:19] <funkyHat> bob2, yep, no output
[02:19] <reiki> !shockwave
[02:19] <ubotu> reiki: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:19] <reiki> hmmm...
[02:20] <bob2> k	ah
[02:20] <reiki> I have flashplayer installed ok... but not shockwave player... do I need that? :)
[02:20] <kkrizka_> bob2: I got it to detect (checked system log), but I am not sure how to mount it
[02:20] <bob2> funkyHat: dunno then, maybe aoss just doesn't work entirely correctly
[02:20] <funkyHat> ok
[02:20] <bob2> kkrizka_: look at /var/log/messages and see what device it is
[02:20] <Quinthius> anyone here use banshee?
[02:21] <kkrizka_> bob2/etc/hotplug/usb/bpckusb: load usb/bpckusb.fw/BPINTCD.HEX for ac9/10/85 to /proc/bus/usb/002/002
[02:21] <funkyHat> well, it 1/2 works without running it through aoss (doesn't at all if you do run it through aoss)
[02:21] <kkrizka_> bob2: that's only thing I found to do with the filesystem
[02:21] <funkyHat> i can hear the automated voice (or any other voice) but it doesn't get any sound input
[02:21] <bob2> kkrizka_: that means it's trying to load the firmware
[02:21] <jake1> i am soo 1337
[02:21] <bob2> I'd be pretty surprised if aoss worked with input
[02:21] <jake1> extended display rules
[02:22] <funkyHat> bob2, well, not using aoss doesn't either :(
[02:22] <bob2> skype really doesn't do alsa?
[02:22] <welly> Hello all.. I'm trying to play an MP3 on a fairly fresh ubuntu install - getting "failed to create a gstreamer play object" when I double click on the file
[02:22] <jake1> i have a Matrix screen saver that now plays on all my monitors
[02:22] <kkrizka_> bob2: I don't see any more messages to do with usb after it
[02:22] <funkyHat> the only options you get are the dsps
[02:22] <SuperQ> anyone know what SATA cards are good with ubuntu?
[02:22] <erUSUL> kkrizka_: it should be /dev/scd0 or /dev/sr0
[02:22] <funkyHat> i know, skype really SHOULD do alsa
[02:22] <SuperQ> or better question.. what cards should be avoided at all costs
[02:22] <Quinthius> welly: install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[02:22] <nalioth> !tell welly about restricted
[02:22] <erUSUL> !tell welly about mp3
[02:22] <funkyHat> maybe it's worth mentioning on their forums if they have forums...
[02:23] <Quinthius> welly: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:23] <bob2> kkrizka_: right, because it won't do anything without the firmware
[02:23] <welly> cheers guys!
[02:23] <vermyndax> SuperQ: I'm using onboard VIA 8237 SATA for all hard drives
[02:23] <kkrizka_> ahh, I restarted hotplug again and it detected it :)
[02:23] <bob2> SuperQ: worth reading http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html
[02:24] <SuperQ> bob2: yea.. I read that one
[02:24] <reiki> I just noticed.... Ubuntu doesn't appear to have found my Wacom tablet (it's an older one connected to a serial port) ... Should I get a new tablet? And more importantly... if I get a new one, will it work? :)
[02:24] <SuperQ> bob2: I've basicaly decided to skip any card supported raid and just use md
[02:25] <SuperQ> reiki: being on a serial port, you may have to set it up manualy
[02:25] <LadyLinux> concept10: Hi are you there?
[02:25] <bob2> anything plugged into the serial port is going to require manually fiddling
[02:25] <SuperQ> reiki: I would use http://google.com/linux to search for that wacom model specificaly
[02:25] <reiki> ack... that'd take me back to slackware days :) Maybe I'll ask wife for a USB one for my birthday
[02:25] <reiki> :)
[02:26] <SuperQ> reiki: heh
[02:26] <SuperQ> reiki: what model wacom?
[02:26] <reiki> Any word on whether the USB ones work properly ?
[02:26] <bob2> it's likely the serial one will work fine
[02:26] <bob2> once setup
[02:26] <reiki> SuperQ: it an ArtPad II a KT model
[02:27] <SuperQ> reiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WacomTabletIssue
[02:28] <linner> paco_ yes, I have a router set up
[02:28] <linner> there are three computers (2 win, 1 linux)
[02:28] <linner> asfdsdf
[02:28] <linner> oops sorry :)
[02:29] <carlos> hello... i have problems whit the mbr
[02:29] <linner> paco_ shoot he signed off when I was researching
[02:30] <linner> I should say that paco_ signed off while I was researching
[02:30] <reiki> SuperQ: thanks... but that was all about USB tablets... I think I have some digging to do :)
[02:30] <ilpavox> i apt-get the sun java package and rebooted firefox, but i am getting a plugin/vm crash when i open a hava page.  any help?
[02:30] <Plazma> is ubuntuguide.com a good online documentation? someone was telling me that it was incorrect and garabe
[02:30] <bob2> carlos: you need to ask a question...
[02:30] <robotgeek> !ubuntuguide
[02:30] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[02:30] <bob2> Plazma: some of it is misleading and dangerous
[02:30] <bob2> much of it is useful, thho
[02:30] <LadyLinux> Laters.
[02:30] <carlos> there are support in spanish???
[02:30] <bob2> the problem is that the sort of people who use it are not the sort of people who can figure out which bits are wrong
[02:30] <reiki> !es
[02:30] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:30] <nalioth> !es
[02:31] <bob2> ilpavox: yes, java is buggy, complain to sun
[02:31] <nfinitep1astik> rofl, ubotu is multilingual
[02:31] <Plazma> bob2, oh ok, so say if im failry expierence linux user, but a bit rusty, how good is it then?
[02:31] <nalioth> nfinitep1astik: ubotu is quicker (many of us are multilingual)
[02:31] <Plazma> bob2, pardon my mispellings too hehe
[02:32] <reiki> wow... even the linuxwacom project doesn't support my old serial tablet. It supports some NEWER serial tablets... but not this older one
[02:32] <nfinitep1astik> nalioth: then i apologize as a lazy american
[02:32] <bob2> Plazma: not too bad
[02:32] <bob2> p	just be careful about what it says about apt
[02:32] <bob2> e.g. don't point apt at random backports sources just because it tells you to
[02:33] <ilpavox> bob2: ok, but that does not change the fact that it should work.
[02:33] <Plazma> bob2, well i wasnt going to modify sources.list or anything unless i wanted to try bleeding edge or poitn apt in the wrong directlion, id just leave it alone
[02:33] <say> hey all
[02:33] <bob2> ilpavox: indeed, but no one but sun can fix it
[02:33] <bob2> Plazma: sure, shouldn't be problems then
[02:33] <ilpavox> bob2: do you have the plugin working?
[02:33] <nalioth> nfinitep1astik: i am a lazy american (who is lazily multilingual)
[02:34] <Plazma> bob2, i take it you would reccomend ubuntu highly (i know your quit ethe high roller in here)
[02:34] <say> how do i get gtkpod on my cpu
[02:34] <say> ??
[02:34] <say> ty in advance
[02:34] <nfinitep1astik> nalioth: yeah, but you're not from ca.....at least i hope you're not
[02:34] <HrdwrBoB> say: your cpu is the processor
[02:34] <HrdwrBoB> you can't "get things on your cpu" per se
[02:34] <HrdwrBoB> say: you can install gtkpod using synaptic
[02:34] <say> cpu here is short for computer
[02:34] <bob2> ilpavox: no, it was too crashy so I stopped using it
[02:34] <Plazma> !synaptic
[02:34] <ubotu> I guess synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[02:34] <HrdwrBoB> say: no, cpu is cpu
[02:34] <say> well
[02:34] <pluggo> HrdwrBoB: I got some dip on my chip one time.
[02:34] <HrdwrBoB> if you mean computer, say 'box'
[02:34] <say> new york is weird i guess
[02:34] <nfinitep1astik> !caja
[02:34] <ubotu> nfinitep1astik: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:35] <say> box is pussy
[02:35] <say> in nyc
[02:35] <say> lol
[02:35] <bob2> Plazma: it's a pretty good OS, yeah.  quite excellent all round.
[02:35] <FruityLoop> hello
[02:35] <Plazma> bob2, whats your take on slackware? just out of curioisty
[02:35] <HrdwrBoB> !tell say about synaptic
[02:35] <bob2> say: er, please stay on-topic and within the bouncs of the CoC
[02:35] <HrdwrBoB> Plazma: waste of time
[02:35] <FruityLoop> can anyone help me
[02:35] <say> sorry
[02:35] <FruityLoop> ?
[02:35] <bob2> Plazma: sounds like too much effort
[02:35] <linner> so back to the drawing board:  I have three computers on a router.  2 are Win and 1 is Ubuntu Linux Breezy - I just want to be able to transfer files to and from any of those computers... and recommendations?
[02:35] <say> "my bust yo"
[02:35] <bob2> FruityLoop: you haven't asked a question yet
[02:35] <pluggo> linner: filezilla didn't work?
[02:35] <FruityLoop> <----- can we talk in a private dialog?
[02:36] <bob2> linner: just use window's normal filesharring stuff then
[02:36] <bob2> FruityLoop: no
[02:36] <Discipulus> linner, Samba
[02:36] <Plazma> bob2, yea thast one thing i didtn like.. i had to compile everything from source, which wasn't to bad, but got tedious, i like how i dont even have to open a browser, just open an xterm apt-get install <package>
[02:36] <linner> bob2, tried that... its asking me to connect to the computer... with passwords
[02:36] <linner> and I don't know what to use
[02:36] <pluggo> FruityLoop, ask your question in the main channel and we'll try to help.
[02:36] <bob2> linner: then tell windows to share things anonymously
[02:36] <linner> pluggo, unless I can do it on symantic I don't know how to do it
[02:36] <bob2> Plazma: heh, yeah, Debian and Ubuntu are good for being lazy
[02:37] <linner> bob2, I'm confused.  How do I do that?
[02:37] <vermyndax> anyone know how to change which Java OpenOffice2 should use?
[02:37] <bob2> linner: right clik on something in windows. share tab. ???. profit.
[02:37] <FruityLoop> ok, i need Java and i dont know what i must du.... its the first time I use Linux
[02:37] <bob2> (I haven't seriously used windows in years, I forget)
[02:37] <linner> bob2, ok... let me go try
[02:37] <bob2> FruityLoop: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[02:37] <linner> Discipulus, what is samba?
[02:37] <Versed`> But lazy is good.
[02:38] <FruityLoop> ok thx
[02:38] <bob2> samba is the linux equivalent of being a windows file server
[02:38] <bob2> ve	absolutely!
[02:38] <linner> oh okay
[02:38] <Plazma> bob2, i have ubuntu on vwmare just to test it, and the only thing i didnt like was that it didnt install gcc, glibc and a few other odds and ends i would use, but i understand why cuz it seems like its geared towards those who are new and wont know much if anything about gcc
[02:38] <linner> bob2, do you recommend samba for what I'm looking for?
[02:38] <HrdwrBoB> Plazma: build-essential has all of that
[02:38] <pluggo> linner: It's a windows program. You install the SSH daemon on your linux box (probably through synaptic) and install filezilla on the windows box.
[02:38] <HrdwrBoB> Plazma: it's not necessary for an end user to have a C compiler
[02:39] <bob2> Plazma: there were big discussions about that at the beginning
[02:39] <bob2> linner: samba only lets your linux machine serve files, it doesn't help linux access windows shares
[02:39] <linner> ok i see what you mean now pluggo
[02:39] <Plazma> bob2, i mean its understandable, but kinda annoying in a way, i guess thast why aptitude is so nice or even synaptic
[02:39] <linner> bob2, oh okay
[02:39] <linner> bob2, what do you think about filezilla?
[02:40] <LincTeK> apt-get install smbfs
[02:40] <linner> guys... what is localhost.localdomain?
[02:40] <funkyHat> your computer
[02:40] <Plazma> linner, that is you
[02:41] <Plazma> linner, thast your loopback address
[02:41] <bob2> linner: I have no idea what that is
[02:41] <LincTeK> host name
[02:41] <Plazma> bob2, lmao
[02:41] <linner> ok... so that's my login to ubuntu?
[02:41] <funkyHat> it's the same as 127.0.0.1
[02:41] <bob2> anything with "zilla" in the name that isn't mozilla is probably crap, tho
[02:41] <bob2> cf prozilla
[02:41] <kbreit> What package can I get gtkembedmoz.dll from?
[02:42] <linner> Plazma, so that's my login to ubuntu?
[02:42] <Plazma> linner, no, your login name should be
[02:42] <Plazma> funkyHat, yes yes it is
[02:42] <Plazma> lmao @ funky.. haha yea
[02:42] <linner> Plazma, ok... so on windows it's asking me for the username/password for my linux box... what exactly is it referring to?
[02:42] <erUSUL> bob2: samba comes whith smbclient which let you access files in win machines
[02:43] <Plazma> linner, exactly waht its saying , your user name and password on your linux box
[02:43] <funkyHat> linner, your linux username and password
[02:43] <abbot45> im having problems with the wifi router im setting up.  i can connect to it and change settings in it, but when i try to go to a page it says "website unavailable"
[02:43] <nalioth> linner: your linux username/pass
[02:43] <Plazma> linner, an account that has access to your linux box
[02:43] <pluggo> linner: Your linux login
[02:43] <linner> nalioth, Plazma funkyHat I put that in and it didn't like it
[02:43] <bytefoo> :|
[02:43] <bob2> kbreit: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:43] <linner> so i'm confused if there's some funny extension or crap that it's asking for
[02:43] <Plazma> linner, the thing i hate about myself is i make shit so much harder on me than it needs to be, just relax, grab a beer , watch som pr0n, and youll be good
[02:43] <LadyLinux> Hello all.
[02:43] <linner> like kelley/ENTER IP here
[02:44] <bob2> erUSUL: they're not in the sama package in ubuntu
[02:44] <LincTeK> linner install samba and smbfs on ubuntu
[02:44] <linner> LincTeK, ok...
[02:44] <bob2> linner: no
[02:44] <linner> no?
[02:44] <bytefoo> dudes how do i force eject a cdrom drive :|
[02:44] <Plazma> bytefoo, umount /dev/cdrom
[02:44] <Plazma> then push the eject button perhaps
[02:45] <LadyLinux> concept10: You here?
[02:45] <linner> bytefoo, the old fashioned way I did it was to use a paperclip and push in the tiny button
[02:45] <bob2> bytefoo: umount it
[02:45] <linner> it will open the ROM whether the computer is on or not
[02:45] <kbreit> bob2, It doesn't appear to list provided files.
[02:45] <linner> bob2, you say no to Samba and smbfs?
[02:45] <linner> how come?
[02:46] <bob2> kbreit: sure it does
[02:46] <bytefoo> it says it's busy :|
[02:46] <welly> does anyone have any pointers to some good info on managing rights on files and directories?
[02:46] <kbreit> bob2, Where?
[02:46] <bob2> bytefoo: then find out what is using it
[02:46] <bob2> kbreit: scroll down...
[02:46] <bob2> linner: I didn't say that
[02:46] <linner> windows sees the linux box and linux sees the windows box but neither will let me access the files
[02:46] <bob2> linner: if you want to use windows shares from linux, smbfs is a good option
[02:46] <bob2> linner: then share things anonymously
[02:46] <linner> using the known passwords
[02:46] <reiki> bob2: does umount -f still get used to force an unmount?
[02:46] <bob2> SMB is insecure anyway, there's no point using passwords
[02:47] <kbreit> Oh, found it/
[02:47] <P8ntKid> Can anybody help me get ubuntu to recognize my wireless card?
[02:47] <linner> bob2, I can't find the share anonymously think you're suggesting
[02:47] <bob2> reiki: -l usually works beter ime
[02:47] <linner> bob2, so I'll do a google search and figure it out
[02:47] <robotgeek> P8ntKid: what wireless card do u have?
[02:47] <linner> thanks
[02:47] <welly> basically got a directory, /opt/lampp/htdocs which I want to be read/write accessible by my user
[02:47] <pluggo> linner: did you set up passwords using smbpasswd?
[02:47] <bob2> welly: then make your user own it
[02:47] <linner> pluggo, I don't know what that is
[02:47] <reiki> bob2: the -l parm tells it to unmount as soon as whatever is keeping it busy takes a break? (I'm trying to go from memory here and my memory is older than dirt)
[02:47] <carlos> i need help whit the mbr.
[02:47] <linner> is that something I do through terminal?
[02:48] <welly> bob2, ok.. thats easy enough, possibly :)
[02:48] <carlos> somebody can help me??
[02:48] <welly> erm.. actually it's not.. i'm pretty new to this
[02:48] <welly> chmod right?
[02:48] <bob2> reiki: right, which seems to work almost always for me, for some reason
[02:48] <P8ntKid> robotgeek: Sony Viao 803.11b
[02:48] <bob2> welly: chown
[02:48] <welly> oh ok
[02:48] <D1> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006AMSI/103-4419581-9112600?v=glance
[02:48] <D1> what do you guys think?
[02:48] <D1> it works in linux
[02:49] <linner> pluggo:  I get this:  machine 127.0.0.1 rejected the (anonymous) password change: Error was : Account disabled.
[02:49] <linner> Failed to change password for kelley
[02:49] <linner> but i'm using the one and only account I have on linux
[02:49] <robotgeek> P8ntKid: i never heard of that card :( sorry!!
[02:49] <linner> pluggo, I just typed smbpasswd in terminal and that's where the error came from
[02:49] <Dre> does ubuntu's root password the same as my user account?
[02:49] <carlos> i wanna clear the mbr. how i do it???
[02:49] <Dre> is my ubuntu's root password the same as my user account?
[02:50] <LincTeK> Dre no
[02:50] <bob2> Dre: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[02:50] <reiki> Dre: try it
[02:50] <bob2> carlos: why would you want to do that?
[02:50] <Discipulus> Dre, sudo -s
[02:50] <LadyLinux9> I got bounced off my irc.
[02:50] <carlos> tank bob2.. clear the master boot record
[02:50] <bob2> carlos: why?
[02:50] <MyLeftNut> I was in earlier, was having problems from an update earlier today. When I boot my login terminal just flashes a few times then tells me of an error "no devices found". I'm logged in now by altering the "DEVICE" entry in my xorg.conf to vesa. Can anyone help me?
[02:50] <pluggo> so linner are you logged in as root right now? If so try smbpasswd -a username
[02:51] <welly> cool, that wasn't too painful
[02:51] <linner> um... I don't know...
[02:51] <linner> I've only been doing this about a week pluggo
[02:51] <carlos> no boot whit winXP.
[02:51] <bob2> MyLeftNut: what video card?
[02:51] <linner> pluggo how do I log in as a root?
[02:51] <pluggo> linner: Your prompt is a # if you're root and a $ (or sometimes %) if you're not
[02:51] <MyLeftNut> bob2, Nvidia 5300Go, was working until I updated earlier on today
[02:51] <glDaher> my pppoe doesn't connect on boot up... how do I change this?
[02:51] <welly> i'm definitely warming to linux :)
[02:51] <bob2> MyLeftNut: breezy?
[02:52] <bob2> glDaher: sudo pppoeconf
[02:52] <linner> pluggo, It shows me this:  kelley@Linner:~$ smbpasswd
[02:52] <bob2> iirc
[02:52] <vanberge> MyLeftNut, same thing happened to me...
[02:52] <linner> as soon as I open terminal
[02:52] <Dre> sudo passwd root
[02:52] <pluggo> linner: Type "sudo smbpasswd -a username" then
[02:52] <linner> ok
[02:52] <reiki> I've been whackin away here about 4 weeks and haven't had to log in as root. What's the need for root? I kinda LIKE not being logged in as root :)
[02:52] <bob2> Dre: there's no need to do that
[02:52] <vanberge> MyLeftNut, just have to re-install driver
[02:52] <Dre> sudo passwd root <-- this is only for root's password right?
[02:52] <welly> ok.. am i right in thinking that you can't ssh into ubuntu as root?
[02:52] <bob2> welly: indeed
[02:52] <pluggo> It will ask for your password, then you can add an entry for your samba user
[02:52] <bob2> welly: unless you set a password
[02:52] <LadyLinux9> linner: in root terminal type - sudo passwd  it will ask for password.
[02:52] <glDaher> bob2: already did that. still doesn't connect
[02:52] <xTina> Dre: yes, that changes root's password
[02:52] <bob2> welly: ssh'ing in as root is a bad idea anyway
[02:52] <Dre> xTina : thank you
[02:52] <pluggo> Dre: Right. "sudo passwd someuser" changes someuser's password.
[02:53] <welly> ok.. i've ssh-ed in as my user, is there a way of changing to root without having to sudo every root command?
[02:53] <MyLeftNut> vanberge,  I tried to "Complete Remove" nvidia-glx from Synaptic, then reinstalled it after a reboot but it didn't help
[02:53] <linner> lady
[02:53] <linner> oops
[02:53] <xTina> welly: sudo -s
[02:53] <linner> LadyLinux, let me try that
[02:53] <welly> ahh ok
[02:53] <welly> thank you
[02:53] <LadyLinux9> The setup gnome to allow you to connect as root.
[02:53] <MyLeftNut> bob2, Whatever the latest is, I'm not sure, it's either breezy or hoary
[02:53] <bob2> welly: sudo -s
[02:53] <vanberge> MyLeftNut, i installed the driver from nvidia's site... i didnt even use those two packages.
[02:53] <holycow> MyLeftNut, search for nvidia
[02:53] <bob2> MyLeftNut: er, it's a pretty important difference
[02:53] <bob2> MyLeftNut: if you're using breezy, then please file a bug
[02:53] <holycow> and install the proper nvidia driver, nvidia glx is just one component
[02:53] <linner> LadyLinux, ok it let me change my password but I'm not sure that it change the "root" pass
[02:53] <vanberge> MyLeftNut, it is justa  "nvidia-driver-installer.run" file... you just "sh filename" it
[02:53] <holycow> oh he's using breezy?
[02:53] <holycow> never mind then
[02:54] <MyLeftNut> bob2,  Whichever is the more recent of the two. Sorry, I've been up for nearly 40 hours, my memory is going
[02:54] <vanberge> MyLeftNut, you need to have kernel headers, and nvidia source packages if i remember correctly.
[02:54] <holycow> MyLeftNut, if you are using a developer version of ubuntu you are expected to have the skills to solve it
[02:54] <xTina> funkyHat: sudo -i simulates a fully-fledged login, while sudo -s just makes you root ($HOME will still be set to your user's home, among others) iirc
[02:54] <linner> pluggo, I did that and it gave me another error message
[02:54] <MyLeftNut> vanberge,  I should have them from a previous installation
[02:54] <holycow> we can't help with breezy here
[02:54] <LadyLinux9> linner: The setup gnome to allow you to connect as root.
[02:54] <funkyHat> xTina, ah, so it's the same as the difference between su and su -
[02:54] <carlos> what do i do??? no boot when install the xp.
[02:55] <MyLeftNut> holycow, Oh, so nobodies meant to ask about anything? How are you supposed to learn then?
[02:55] <linner> pluggo, it says:  Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user username. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?
[02:55] <linner> Failed to modify password entry for user username
[02:55] <xTina> funkyHat: basically, yes :)
[02:55] <bob2> MyLeftNut: breezy then, please do file a bug
[02:55] <funkyHat> :)
[02:55] <bob2> holycow: that's not true
[02:55] <linner> LadyLinux, oh gosh... i feel like you're talking greek to me
[02:55] <bob2> carlos: your question is "I installed Windows and now I can't boot Ubuntu anymore"?
[02:55] <LadyLinux9> linner: It's in the menu that allows you change the settings.
[02:55] <holycow> bob2, really? well i'll be :)
[02:56] <holycow> MyLeftNut, go ahead, ask away then
[02:56] <linner> LadyLinux, when i typed it in terminal i received no menu
[02:56] <holycow> :)
[02:56] <LadyLinux9> linner: Then log off and you should be able to logon as root.
[02:56] <LincTeK> nvidia how to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:56] <pluggo> linner: Are you giving it the name of a user that is a valid UNIX user?
[02:56] <linner> LadyLinux, but is that necessary if I only want to be able to share files between my 3 compuers?
[02:56] <linner> pluggo, yes
[02:56] <carlos> no. i installed ubuntu  and now can't boot winxp.
[02:56] <MyLeftNut> holycow, I've got the info I need for another attempt. I'll let yis know
[02:56] <LadyLinux9> linner: It's on the top tool bar.
[02:56] <linner> as far as I know, I'm the only user on this box
[02:57] <linner> my user name is my first name
[02:57] <holycow> MyLeftNut, the only thing i will say is that if you are running breezy, expect daily or hourly breakage
[02:57] <bob2> carlos: then get out your windows boot disk
[02:57] <bz0b> hey all
[02:57] <holycow> its a development platform, the rest is up to you
[02:57] <smurf> whats up everyone
[02:57] <linner> LadyLinux, pluggo in my "users and groups" it shows me as the only user
[02:57] <MyLeftNut> holycow, I prefer to jump in at the deep end.
[02:57] <bytefoo> sky
[02:57] <vanberge> when breezy is officially released... is it better to upgrade via cdrom, or via apt ?
[02:57] <pluggo> linner, is that the username you're feeding to smbpasswd -a?
[02:57] <bob2> vanberge: both are the same
[02:57] <Plazma> wow.. synaptic is pretty awesome.. seems well written
[02:58] <linner> yes
[02:58] <linner> pluggo, yes
[02:58] <bz0b> bob2, when the release of 5.10 comes out, will all the updates that are made for it be there so I can just update my version of development to like the final release version, without having to redownload the new version?
[02:58] <vanberge> bob2, i figured i could just change the repositories and run the apt-get dist upgrade or whatever...
[02:58] <LadyLinux9> linner: On the top tool bat in gnome desktop.  Click 4th from the left.  It's in the settings.
[02:58] <holycow> MyLeftNut, *nod* thats a good way as well.
[02:58] <MyLeftNut> Oh, addendum, how can I remove all my Nvidia driver settings and preferences to ensure a clean install of this update
[02:58] <bob2> vanberge: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeHowto
[02:58] <LadyLinux9> bar.
[02:58] <carlos> i can't do it. i formated high disk y now can install xp... apearme MISSING SYSTEM OPERATING
[02:58] <bob2> I wonder if this upgrade to breezy will ever finish
[02:58] <linner> LadyLinux, I'm using Breezy.. I only have 3 menu items
[02:58] <bz0b> bob2, and how do i install the drivers for my integrated ati gfx card for my notebook
[02:58] <bob2> bz0b: of course!
[02:59] <bz0b> bob2, yay!
[02:59] <LadyLinux9> Ok 3rd.
[02:59] <bob2> bz0b: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:59] <smurf> What's Breezy?
[02:59] <smurf> live cd or distro?
[02:59] <linner> smurf, a version of Ubuntu
[02:59] <bz0b> bob2, thanks
[02:59] <glDaher> I just don't remember how would I prevent any other program/daemon from changing a file! anyone?
[02:59] <linner> smurf, it's in beta right now
[02:59] <xTina> smurf: both
[02:59] <smurf> ahhh
[02:59] <smurf> I shall follow this
[02:59] <smurf> just got ubuntu
[02:59] <glDaher> because something changing my resolve.conf file in the background...
[03:00] <LadyLinux9> linner: It's where you change the gnome settings.
[03:00] <mchugh24> hi all, when I run netstat -vat, one of the listening ports is tcp        0      0 *:ircs                  *:*                     LISTEN
[03:00] <mchugh24> . I take it that this is the irc server, but I don't know how to turn off. Even if it is the client, I would like to turn off. It it not an option that shows up in rcconf and I can't find it in etc/rc... any ideas? thanks
[03:00] <bob2> glDaher: that would be your dhcp client, or ppp client
[03:00] <bob2> glDaher: that's what they're supposed to do
[03:00] <linner> LadyLinux, I've never tried to change the gnome settings... so let me tell you what I have:  applications, places, system
[03:00] <Quinthius> smurf: it's the next release of ubuntu. current stable release is hoary (5.04), breezy is 5.10
[03:00] <linner> LadyLinux, i would assume it's in system but I don't know what to look for since there is no "settings"
[03:00] <bob2> mchugh24: sudo netstat -plt | grep ircs
[03:00] <smurf> i see,  thx
[03:00] <LadyLinux9> linner: It will bring up a window with about 6 tabs.  One allows you to logon as root.
[03:01] <bob2> mchugh24: that will tell you what program it is
[03:01] <mchugh24> ok hold on
[03:01] <LadyLinux9> linner: Yes.
[03:01] <xTina> Anyone with Breezy and RealPlayer installed around?
[03:01] <brad[] > Is the Breezy installer going to ask about LVM in the final release? I can't imagine any end-user is going to comprehend what that is.
[03:01] <glDaher> bob2 , but it puts a wrong nameserver... and I have to edit it regularly to access dns correctly
[03:01] <linner> LadyLinux, the closest thing i have is boot or users/groups
[03:01] <bob2> glDaher: then get your ISP to fix it
[03:01] <bob2> glDaher: until then, you can configure dhcli or ppp to not do it
[03:02] <Quinthius> brad[] : well, lvm is becoming more popular... i think in fc3 or 4, it's used by default even..
[03:02] <carlos> bob2.. there ara some manual???
[03:02] <zdennis> what is a good cd ripper that rips to mp3?
[03:02] <dalamar> anyone have issues with kde apps suddenly dissapearing from the gnome menu? installed klibidio and k3b, had icons in the menu, now no dice?
[03:02] <war-totem> audacity?
[03:02] <P8ntKid> How do i add a wireless connection to ubuntu?
[03:02] <bob2> zdennis: abcde and sound juicer
[03:02] <LadyLinux9> linner: I have the earlier version.  There is a terminal command.  I don't remember it.
[03:02] <mchugh24> 4204/rpc.statd. is that for NFS?
[03:02] <dalamar> zdennis, lame is good
[03:02] <vanberge> bob2, just out of curiosity, what window manager do you use?  i think im guessing you as a open box guy
[03:02] <brad[] > Quinthius: Yeah - that's what I'm thinking though - if LVM is available, why not just use it by default? Joe average won't know the difference
[03:02] <bob2> P8ntKid: depends on your chipset
[03:02] <gooktime> zdennis: grip + lame
[03:02] <vanberge> :-)
[03:03] <zdennis> Sound Juicer doesn't have mp3 as an output
[03:03] <bob2> vanberge: metacity
[03:03] <linner> LadyLinux, ok... I do appreciate your time and help.  thank you!
[03:03] <Riddell> dalamar: it's a known issue in breezy
[03:03] <bob2> zdennis: it does if you install the right gstreamer thing
[03:03] <reiki> zdennis: I used SoundJuicer but you have to install a couple libs and configure it
[03:03] <snausages> zdennis, you can configure it to do so
[03:03] <LincTeK> google dual boot ubuntu and winxp to get some help carlos
[03:03] <bob2> mchugh24: yes
[03:03] <P8ntKid> bob2: ok? When i go to system/admin/Networking, i dont have a Wireless connection there.
[03:03] <LadyLinux9> linner: Your welcome.
[03:03] <dalamar> Riddell, ah okay, thats cool then .. just added some icons to the panel. works fine too
[03:03] <bob2> mchugh24: ubuntu does not run any daemons by default, tho, so if it's running it's because you installed it
[03:03] <Quinthius> brad[] : well... i guess cause it's not popular ENOUGH yet, and there can still be some complications during recoveries and such
[03:03] <bob2> P8ntKid: that's not useful
[03:03] <mchugh24> thanks for the info!
[03:03] <bob2> P8ntKid: what sort of card is it?
[03:03] <P8ntKid> bob2: Do you need to see my wireless chipset?
[03:03] <zdennis> ok, will try abcde first
[03:03] <brad[] > Quinthius: Hrm.. it's just so daunting to ask the question during the installation program :\
[03:04] <Quinthius> brad[] : it would be nice if they added a brief description, though (if they dont already)
[03:04] <brad[] > Quinthius: Maybe hide it behind an 'advanced options' button
[03:04] <bob2> P8ntKid: if you want any help, yes
[03:04] <Dre> hi
[03:04] <P8ntKid> bob2: Im getting it now
[03:04] <Dre> I would like to thank Ubuntu for the shipment of CDs
[03:04] <Dre> :)
[03:04] <carlos> tank you linctek and you bob2
[03:04] <linner> ubotu tell unix commands link
[03:04] <mchugh24> I do have NFS running. The ircs name in netstat confused me
[03:05] <LincTeK> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:05] <Dre> may I know if there is a site for 1st time users of Ubuntu
[03:05] <P8ntKid> bob2: Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5212 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)
[03:06] <vanberge> Dre, ubuntuguide.org
[03:06] <Dre> thank you vanberge
[03:06] <dalamar> !ubuntuguide
[03:06] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[03:06] <LincTeK> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation#head-19e51e4331625e264a28ed6c484b946c86882d15
[03:06] <vanberge> Dre, no problem... that is a very good site
[03:06] <glDaher> bob2: I am sure pppoe gets the dns server name right, but seems that dhclient is setting it to my dsl modem.. and replacing the whole contents, where do I find the dhclient config?
[03:06] <LadyLinux9> laters.
[03:07] <reiki> zdennis: try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CDRipping
[03:07] <glDaher> my bad: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[03:07] <bob2> right
[03:07] <vladuz976> can someone help me? how do i add a directory to my path for all users?
[03:07] <pluggo> P8ntKid: You need the madwifi drivers. I'm not sure how to install them on ubuntu, though :)
[03:08] <bob2> vladuz976: editing /etc/bash.bashrc might work
[03:08] <bob2> P8ntKid:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:08] <plagerism> I am having trouble burning data cds with both graveman and k3b in breezy.  Is this a known issue??
[03:08] <zdennis> thanks for the link reiki
[03:08] <LincTeK> vladuz976 i learned it in class but forgot .. need my book sorry
[03:08] <neiras> Hey there - I have a nice ubuntu-desktop install, but I want to remove it and all its parts so I can try kubuntu. Doing apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop only removes the ubuntu-desktop package itself, not its reverse dependencies. Does anyone know how I could do that?
[03:08] <reiki> zdennis: I followed those instructions and ripped a CD in a few minutes after
[03:08] <bob2> plagerism: is it in the BTS?
[03:09] <xTina> neiras: you don't need to remove it
[03:09] <bob2> neiras:  you don't need to remove them, but debfoster would be handy
[03:09] <neiras> xTina - I am aware of that, but I have limited HD space and WANT to remove it.
[03:09] <reiki> neiras: I think you can just apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:09] <vladuz976> bob2, what would i edit in there?
[03:09] <plagerism> bob2, ya know what, out of all the things I have learned about Ubuntu, the location of the bug tracking system I have not
[03:09] <reiki> ahhh
[03:09] <neiras> reiki - I'll run out of spaced if I just do that
[03:09] <bob2> vladuz976: add a lie setting the path...
[03:09] <ripgut> Can anyone help me to get my zen micro working in ubuntu
[03:09] <bob2> plagerism: it's in the channel topic...
[03:09] <Riddell> neiras: you don't need to remove it but removing libgtk2.0-0 will kill all gnome stuff
[03:10] <reiki> neiras: ok... I saw that you mentioned that while I was typing :)
[03:10] <neiras> bob2 - I'll have a look at debfoster
[03:10] <plagerism> bob2, that would seem logical
[03:10] <P8ntKid> Whats the comand i can run to do the network setup wizard again?
[03:11] <vanberge> P8ntKid,  sudo shutdown -h now   :-)   just kidding!
[03:11] <LincTeK> lol
[03:11] <neiras> Say I want to remove all packages on my system *except* those depended on by ubuntu-minimal - is there a decent way to do that?
[03:12] <LincTeK> nerias probally better to do server fresh install
[03:12] <bob2> neiras: yes
[03:12] <ripgut> anyone?
[03:12] <bob2> neiras: sudo aptitude, hit M on the "installed packages" item, then select ubuntu minimal for install (+)
[03:12] <LincTeK> and use a small window manager like fluxbox or xfce
[03:12] <bob2> ripgut: google didn't know?
[03:12] <ripgut> nope
[03:12] <mchugh24> thanks again for the help.
[03:13] <pluggo> ripgut, what's a zen micro? One of those creative mp3 players?
[03:13] <ripgut> yea
[03:13] <evian> anyone here use gnucash? is it good?
[03:14] <pluggo> ripgut: It's probably showing up as a generic usb mass-storage device.
[03:14] <ripgut> i did a "lsusb" and it lists a "Bus 001 Device 004: ID 041:411e creative Technology, LTD"
[03:14] <bob2> that just means it's electrically on the usb bus
[03:14] <ripgut> taht what i was thinking too
[03:14] <ripgut> so what do i do
[03:14] <LincTeK> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-34018.html zen micro help
[03:14] <pluggo> ripgut: Do you have any other USB or any SCSI devices?
[03:14] <ripgut> no
[03:15] <ripgut> just this
[03:15] <pluggo> Try sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[03:15] <P8ntKid> What is the comand to reconfigure my network connections? Like the network wizard that i did when i installed ubuntu?
[03:15] <LincTeK> ripgut http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-34018.html
[03:15] <linner> pluggo you asked me before ( i think) if I had smbfs installed... I don't because it won't let me
[03:15] <linner> pluggo, so does this mean that i can't file share with windoze?
[03:15] <pluggo> linner, wasn't me :) I was telling you to use filezilla
[03:15] <linner> oh okay
[03:15] <pluggo> linner, did you try "sudo modprobe smbfs"?
[03:15] <ripgut> what does taht do pluggo, i did that and it didnt do anything
[03:16] <P8ntKid> What is the comand to reconfigure my network connections? Like the network wizard that i did when i installed ubuntu?
[03:16] <linner> no I'll try it now - I was using synaptic...
[03:16] <pluggo> ripgut: it should see if there's a partition table on your micro or not
[03:16] <bob2> P8ntKid: did you read that URL or not?
[03:16] <Carpe_Libertatem> Has anyone successfully installed e17 on Breezy?
[03:16] <P8ntKid> bob2: Yes, i didn.
[03:16] <P8ntKid> bob2: Yes.
[03:16] <pluggo> ripgut: It doesn't look like it does though, did you try the url that LincTeK posted?
[03:17] <linner> pluggo, i does nothing when i type that in terminal
[03:17] <linner> pluggo do you use filezilla?
[03:17] <ripgut> im looking at it right now, but its kinda overwhelming
[03:17] <ripgut> :|
[03:17] <P8ntKid> bob2: But, i think i did something wrong when i installed ubuntu and didnt configure my wireless adapter
[03:17] <pluggo> linner: No output is usually a sign of success in most programs including modprobe. Do "sudo grep smbfs /proc/filesystems".
[03:17] <reiki> ripgut: seen this? http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/
[03:17] <linner> ok
[03:17] <linner> one moment
[03:18] <linner> the out put is:  sudo grep smbfs /proc/filesystems
[03:18] <bob2> P8ntKid: yes, indeed, but that doesn't matter
[03:18] <linner> oops
[03:18] <ripgut> yea
[03:18] <LincTeK> ripgut i have a nomad 2 running on ubuntu
[03:18] <ripgut> hmmm
[03:18] <linner> pluggo, the output is nodev   smbfs
[03:18] <LincTeK> ripgut ck out http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-34018.html
[03:18] <P8ntKid> bob2: So what would you like me to do?
[03:18] <pluggo> linner: Excellent, you should be able to do "mount -t smbfs -o username=windowsusername,password=windowspassword //windowsmachinename/sharename /mnt/somedirectory"
[03:19] <pluggo> Except with a sudo at the beginning of that
[03:19] <linner> oh god... pluggo....
[03:19] <bob2> P8ntKid: follow the steps on that page
[03:19] <linner> pluggo, i have NO IDEA what you're talking aboutr
[03:19] <pluggo> haha
[03:19] <linner> pluggo, do i really paste all that?
[03:20] <LincTeK> linner do you have folders on windows shared ??
[03:20] <linner> yes
[03:20] <Carpe_Libertatem> Has anyone had success installing e17 on Breezy?
[03:20] <pluggo> linner: Just type "sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=whateverusernameyouuseforwindows,password=yourwindowspassword //machinename/sharename /mnt/somedirectory
[03:20] <linner> LincTeK, yes
[03:20] <linner> ok
[03:20] <pluggo> linner: You have to change parts of that though to match your configuration
[03:20] <P8ntKid> bob2: Can you post the link again. sorry :(
[03:20] <LincTeK> linner i just installed samba and smbfs and was able to see windows shares
[03:20] <bob2> 11:08:16           bob2 | P8ntKid:   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:21] <Capri> I've just upgraded to Breezy and I am missing the nvidia kernel module. Is this known?
[03:21] <bob2> Capri: is there a bug reported yet?
[03:22] <neiras> bob2: thanks for the package management tips
[03:22] <neiras> big help
[03:22] <pluggo> linner: So if your username is "foo" and your password is "bar" on windows and your machine name is "baz" and your share name is "bletch" you'd do "sudo mount -t smbfs -o username=foo,password=bar //baz/bletch /mnt/floppy"
[03:22] <bob2> yeah?
[03:22] <linner> LincTeK, I can't install smbfs
[03:22] <linner> ok i see
[03:23] <ripgut> can someone help me in pm?
[03:23] <ripgut> i downloaded and "cd'd" into the gnomad2 directory
[03:23] <LincTeK> sudo apt-get install smbfs
[03:24] <linner> LincTeK, i've tried.. i get errors
[03:24] <Capri> bob2: nothing related to missing kernel module file.
[03:24] <smurf> Can anyone tell me how to set a root password, so I can 'su' instead of 'sudo'?
[03:24] <linner> LincTeK, thanks thought
[03:24] <LincTeK> what errors ??
[03:24] <HrdwrBoB> smurf: that's not recommended or required for anything
[03:24] <Capri> Does anyone use Breezy with its nvidia driver?
[03:24] <pluggo> smurf: "sudo passwd root"
[03:24] <linner> pluggo can I pm you
[03:24] <HrdwrBoB> smurf: you can get a root shell with sudo -s
[03:25] <HrdwrBoB> but as pluggo said, sudo passwd root
[03:25] <geyzer> check your apt sources linner
[03:25] <pluggo> linner: sure, but you've got to register with NickServ before /msg works here
[03:25] <snausages> is it possible to "force-eject" a cd?
[03:25] <linner> I already am
[03:25] <snausages> the damn thing won't eject
[03:25] <pluggo> snausages: why isn't it ejecting? In use?
[03:25] <ripgut> with a small pin you can forceecect a cd
[03:25] <ripgut> force eject*
[03:25] <snausages> no, just doesn't want to
[03:25] <bob2> Capri: file it!
[03:25] <smurf> why is this not recommended?  I've gotten used to using SU on other linux os
[03:25] <bob2> smurf: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:25] <snausages> i was using grip, and it finished but didnt eject it. even though i have it configed to do so
[03:25] <linner> Usage: mount -V                 : print version
[03:25] <linner>        mount -h                 : print this help
[03:25] <linner>        mount                    : list mounted filesystems
[03:25] <linner>        mount -l                 : idem, including volume labels
[03:26] <linner> So far the informational part. Next the mounting.
[03:26] <linner> The command is `mount [-t fstype]  something somewhere'.
[03:26] <brenner> snausages: right-click > eject on desktop icon?
[03:26] <linner> Details found in /etc/fstab may be omitted.
[03:26] <LincTeK> snau umount /medias/cdrom
[03:26] <linner>        mount -a [-t|-O]  ...     : mount all stuff from /etc/fstab
[03:26] <linner>        mount device             : mount device at the known place
[03:26] <pluggo> snausages: do "fuser -vm /media/cdrom"
[03:26] <snausages> brenner, no go
[03:26] <smurf> thanks
[03:26] <linner>        mount directory          : mount known device here
[03:26] <ripgut> what does this mean?
[03:26] <ripgut> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[03:26] <ripgut> checking whether build environment is sane... yes
[03:26] <ripgut> checking for gawk... no
[03:26] <ripgut> checking for mawk... mawk
[03:26] <ripgut> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes
[03:26] <ripgut> checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... (cached) yes
[03:26] <ripgut> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[03:26] <nalioth> no pasting in here!
[03:26] <LincTeK> ok everyone goodnight
[03:26] <brenner> snausages: i think you can do sudo eject /dev/cdrom ... or something like that
[03:26] <nmstryoda> nalioth, thanks
[03:26] <bimberi> quickdraw nalioth!
[03:26] <nalioth> use #flood or a pastebin
[03:26] <nalioth> read the bloody /topic
[03:27] <Dre> is it possible to play games in Ubuntu?
[03:27] <bob2> nalioth: /remove is usually simpler
[03:27] <evian> so I've been looking at gnucash here and it looks pretty good functionality-wise, but it looks ugly with gtk1 graphics
[03:27] <Dre> like warcraft? doom3?
[03:27] <Dre> counter-strike?
[03:27] <nalioth> bob2: ok still learning
[03:27] <snausages> ah, i restarted gnome and it worked.
[03:27] <brenner> erm, grub boot options.  what exactly does 'noapic' and 'nolapic' do?
[03:28] <vladuz976> can someone help me editing my path variable?
[03:28] <ripgut> dd
[03:28] <bob2> linner: ripgut do NOT paste stuff in here, it floods the channel and annoys everyone
[03:28] <ripgut> im sorry
[03:28] <brenner> evian: afaik, you're stuck with gtk1 unless someone rewrites it
[03:28] <bob2> vladuz976: same as yo uset the var anywhere
[03:28] <ripgut> does anyone here have gnomad2-2.81 installed?
[03:28] <brenner> a la xmms
[03:28] <bob2> vladuz976: export PATH=$PATH:/blah/
[03:28] <linner> bob2,  I'm sorry... I thought I sent it to pluggo in a PM .. that's why i asked him if I could PM him
[03:29] <vladuz976> bob2, but that is just for that terminal, when i log in again it's gone right?
[03:29] <evian> thanks for the info brenner
[03:29] <bob2> vladuz976: so, as I said earlier, put it in /etc/bash.bashrc
[03:29] <brenner> evian: np
[03:29] <vladuz976> bob2, i don't understand what i need to do in there
[03:29] <vanberge> vladuz976, or move whatever binary file you are trying to execute into a dir that already is part of your path
[03:30] <snausages> another question: is there a way to adjust the mplayer mozplugin buffer?
[03:30] <bob2> vladuz976: put the line I just gave you i nthere
[03:30] <vladuz976> vanberge, can't do that to many
[03:31] <vladuz976> bob2, where in /etc/bash.bashrc
[03:31] <bob2> vladuz976: at the end...
[03:31] <ripgut> i dont understand the instructions on that link
[03:32] <ripgut> there has to be a way to get this to work
[03:32] <bob2> and I'm sure there is
[03:32] <vladuz976> bob2, whats the differnce betweenputting it there or in .bash_profile
[03:32] <ripgut> me too
[03:32] <bob2> I don't see where you explained what was wrong, tho
[03:32] <brenner> anyone? grub boot options...what exactly do 'noapic' and 'nolapic' do? i need to use them to fix a certain problem, but i'd like to know what they're actually disabling
[03:32] <PhoenixP3K> Hello, I'm back with my questions (hope some day I'll be good (skilled) enought to help others
[03:32] <bob2> vladuz976: man bash, INVOCATION explains when each is used
[03:32] <ripgut> ok i downloaded the 2.8.1 ver of gnomad2
[03:32] <ripgut> i extracted it
[03:33] <bob2> brenner: APIC = advanced programmable interrupt controller
[03:33] <ripgut> and "cd'd into that directory
[03:33] <PhoenixP3K> I need to add a program to the Application pannel in Gnome, I have no idea on how to do it
[03:33] <ripgut> now what do i do
[03:33] <bob2> brenner: it's supposed to make interrupt handling faster or something
[03:33] <bob2> ripgut: you read the instructions
[03:33] <bob2> PhoenixP3K: /msg ubotu smeg
[03:33] <ripgut> well, yes
[03:33] <brenner> bob2: cheers...would you know about the lapic one as well?
[03:34] <ripgut> but i gotta get it installed first
[03:34] <ripgut> that is where im stuck at
[03:34] <bimberi> ripgut: look for a README file, and perhaps an INSTALL file (not shouting, they're frequently in caps)
[03:34] <brenner> ripgut: is there a README or INSTALL file?
[03:35] <ripgut> yes the readme gets me to the "./configure" step then i get an error at the end
[03:35] <brenner> ripgut: if you're installing from source, you can probably just use checkinstall to make things real easy
[03:35] <bob2> brenner: local apic
[03:35] <hussam> I need help. I can't connect to security.ubuntu.com this IP http://82.211.81.151 times out
[03:35] <bob2> ripgut: then paste the error to #flood
[03:35] <brenner> ripgut: we need the error. :) usually it means you're missing some libraries
[03:35] <xchess> which release should i go with: 5.04 or 5.10 preview?
[03:35] <bob2> xchess: 5.04
[03:35] <brenner> bob2: thanks again
[03:36] <manji> hey, why does my new ubuntu 5.10 beta install not have `make` on it? isn't this a fairly normal feature!?
[03:36] <ripgut> can someone join me in #flood
[03:36] <manji> appreciate any help
[03:36] <xchess> bob: great, i just installed 5.10 by accident
[03:36] <bob2> hussam: works here, guess it's a problem with your network
[03:36] <xchess> bob: heh
[03:36] <PhoenixP3K> bob2, thx I'll go get that smeg programm
[03:36] <bob2> ripgut: just paste it...
[03:36] <brenner> manji: install build-essential...should be on CD
[03:36] <bob2> manji: install build-essential
[03:36] <xchess> bob2: time to reformat
[03:36] <manji> brenner: bob2: thanks guys
[03:36] <brenner> manji: ubuntu "is" a desktop distro after all....most people won't need it
[03:36] <xchess> bob2: thanks
[03:36] <Zodiac> omg
[03:36] <bob2> brenner: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APIC
[03:36] <bob2> xchess: well, you can leave it
[03:36] <bob2> bah
[03:36] <ripgut> *pasted*
[03:37] <Zodiac> I am upgrading my laptop to breezy as we speak ...
[03:37] <Zodiac> *bites fingernails
[03:37] <brenner> bob2: neat...thanks for googling for me. :D
[03:37] <remyforbes777> anyone use ubuntu 64
[03:37] <benplaut> plenty
[03:37] <benplaut> but not me :P
[03:37] <bob2> brenner: heh, I was curios myself :)
[03:37] <remyforbes777> cant get it to work on my amd 64 laptop
[03:37] <bob2> ripgut: install gnome-devel and build-essential
[03:38] <bob2> remyforbes777: be a lot more specific
[03:38] <ripgut> wahts the cmd for that bob2
[03:38] <moshe> when breezy comes out, do I simply replace every instance of the word "hoary" with the word "breezy," apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:38] <vanberge> has anybody installed quake2 before on ubuntu?  this is my second day struggling with this :-(
[03:38] <othernoob> how much does a computer scientist earn in the US?
[03:38] <benplaut> moshe: from all the "base" repositories, yes
[03:38] <moshe> cool
[03:38] <benplaut> from ones you added, yourself, no
[03:38] <moshe> so easy even I could do it. :)
[03:38] <robotgeek> othernoob: #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[03:39] <othernoob> robotgeek: is there ever any actual talk in offtopic?
[03:39] <robotgeek> othernoob: maybe, maybe not
[03:39] <Razor-X> j #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:39] <bob2> ripgut: how have you installed things in the past?
[03:39] <brenner> bob2: heh...here's my problem if you're curious: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53094
[03:40] <robotgeek> Razor-X: hi, long time!
[03:40] <bob2> vanberge: yes...
[03:40] <ripgut> some
[03:40] <bob2> mombof: wiki/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[03:40] <vanberge> bob2, i feel like a total noob... but i just cannot get this figured out
[03:40] <brenner> bob2: i'm getting 50% at idle (but top shows low usage) and my clock is indeed going too fast
[03:42] <ripgut> ok im installing gnome-devel from synaptic
[03:42] <ripgut> but i cant find Build essentials
[03:42] <Agrajag> you mean build-essentials?
[03:42] <Agrajag> er
[03:42] <ripgut> yea
[03:42] <snausages> ripgut, sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[03:42] <Agrajag> build-essential
[03:42] <Agrajag> no s on the end
[03:42] <ripgut> ok
[03:42] <snausages> err
[03:43] <ripgut> wow 100 files for gnome-devel :|
[03:43] <D1> my kingdom for a working linux scanner! ;[
[03:43] <snausages> thats right, no 's'
[03:43] <ripgut> and im on a 128k downstream connection
[03:43] <ripgut> :(
[03:43] <brenner> ripgut: could be worse...you could be on dialup
[03:44] <ripgut> i know
[03:44] <ripgut> i shouldn't complain either, because i got this zen brand new for free
[03:44] <snausages> what's all required to build stuff from source? i know there's build-essential, the xml parser thing... what else
[03:44] <bob2> snausages: build-essential is enough to compile basic things
[03:45] <cfh_dev> anybody know why amarok is not in breezy?
[03:45] <bob2> things may require other libraries, but there''s no no general list
[03:45] <snausages> i tried to install gaim 1.5 and i was missing a bunch of stuff
[03:45] <crimsun> cfh_dev: it is.
[03:45] <snausages> such as the xml parser
[03:45] <ripgut> man i love linux
[03:45] <bob2> snausages: then you need to install that stuff, too
[03:45] <jtan325> gahhhhhhhhhh i am having the weirdest problem ever. firefox is hanging when i try to load certain websites... gmail works, ubuntuwiki/forums work, lots of things work, but anandtech.com doesn't work, and some other sites seem to trip firefox up
[03:45] <ripgut> i love the headaches it comes with
[03:45] <bob2> snausages: sudo apt-get build-dep gaim would  get most of it
[03:45] <cfh_dev> crimsun: hmm, I switch my repos from hoary to breezy and synaptic wants to remove amarok.  Any thoughts?
[03:45] <snausages> most
[03:45] <crimsun> cfh_dev: you must be using hoary-backports?
[03:46] <jtan325> i've tried reinstalling, upgrading, all that
[03:46] <bob2> Clujo: synaptic/apt won't remove things just because they don't exist in a newer release of your OS
[03:46] <cfh_dev> crimsun: I don't have that in my repos list
[03:46] <Clujo> gotcha , bob2
[03:46] <crimsun> cfh_dev: dpkg -l amarok|grep ^ii
[03:46] <bob2> cfh_dev: did you in the past?
[03:46] <jtan325> i haven't done anything firefox related either, i can't imagine how i messed this up
[03:46] <bob2> er
[03:46] <bob2> Clujo: oops, didn't that for you
[03:46] <cfh_dev> crimsun: nope
[03:46] <Plazma> bob2, i want to personally thank you for the help youve given me, and to others who may not have been so greatful for your help
[03:46] <ripgut> ok, so after i get build-essential and gnome-devel installed i should have no problem installing gnomad2?
[03:46] <Clujo> it was wisdom nevertheless
[03:46] <crimsun> cfh_dev: "nope"?
[03:47] <bob2> heh
[03:47] <bob2> Plazma: heh, np
[03:47] <cfh_dev> crimsun: I didn't have backports in the past
[03:47] <bob2> ripgut: it's a start
[03:47] <cfh_dev> crimsun: dkpg.. => ii  amarok         1.2.3-1ubuntu4
[03:47] <Plazma> bob2, im sure you get it all the time, and not sure what its worth to you , but i felt like it needed to be said
[03:47] <jtan325> anyone have any ideas on how to debug/fix this?
[03:48] <ripgut> i appreciate the help guys, really
[03:48] <dabaR> What is a gui sftp program?
[03:48] <crimsun> cfh_dev: are you dist-upgrading?
[03:48] <bob2> Plazma: I do appreciate it, thanks :)
[03:48] <Nexinarus> yeh thanks bob2 for you're help in the past also
[03:48] <bob2> dabaR: gnome's file manager does that
[03:48] <cfh_dev> crimsun: yes, I think so.  Anywhere that had hoary in the sources.list I've changed to breezy
[03:48] <dabaR> oki.
[03:48] <crimsun> cfh_dev: what's the message regarding apt wanting to remove amarok*?
[03:48] <Plazma> bob2, no problem, you irc guys have caught my interest and even though im not nearly as kowledgable as you or others, i plan on sticking around for a while
[03:49] <cfh_dev> crimsun: synaptic just has that amarok* will be removed.
[03:49] <Nexinarus> hmm when i close my laptop lid, and lift it back up, the screen goes all black
[03:49] <brenner> it's a lovefest in here. :)
[03:49] <ripgut> beep media player is better imo
[03:49] <ripgut> but to each his own :)
[03:49] <bur[n] e1> amarok is awesome... too bad it's qt ;)
[03:49] <Apostols> Saludos
[03:49] <Apostols> Alguien que hable espaol?
[03:49] <hou5ton> anyone know why Ubuntu didn't join Debian Common Core Alliance (DCCA)?
[03:50] <ripgut> yo no habla espanol
[03:50] <bob2> !+es
[03:50] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:50] <bob2> hou5ton: because it hasn't done anything useful yet
[03:50] <Nexinarus> they dont want allies? :p
[03:50] <brenner> Nexinarus: standby maybe?
[03:50] <Nexinarus> maybe.. just can not figure out how to stop it
[03:50] <Nexinarus> or make it go back to the desktop
[03:51] <hou5ton> bob2: that really isn't a good reason ... it's a new organization for a good purpose .... needs people to start it up
[03:51] <Nexinarus> im getting SDL-devel :p
[03:51] <miguel> hello
[03:51] <smurf> no c compiler??? whatever!  ::goes to install it::
[03:52] <bur[n] e1> smurf: get build-essential even
[03:52] <Nexinarus> what are they?
[03:52] <smurf> thanks, you saved me some menu hopping time
[03:52] <geyzer> how is ubuntu as a server and multi-user machine (for remote program compiling, testing etc)
[03:52] <Nexinarus> good for server imo
[03:52] <war-totem> can anyone tell me whats a better/other alternative to nautilus?
[03:53] <brenner> bob2: hang on...i just read that wikipedia link...acpi's to do with intel machines...er, i've got an amd
[03:53] <robotgeek> war-totem: rox-filer
[03:53] <vanberge> bob2, i think i am really close to having quake2 work... but i get the following message:
[03:53] <vanberge> Error: Couldn't load pics/colormap.pcx
[03:53] <war-totem> thx ill check it out
[03:53] <sn0n> anyone know why gstreamer-ffmpeg is lagging behind ? (and breaking mpg playback in the procesS)
[03:53] <ripgut> i think most linux distros are good for server purposes, linux itself is not a resource hog
[03:54] <geyzer> Nexinarus, ripgut: ok thanks, just wondering if i should change to debian
[03:55] <ripgut> is build -essential a smaller package?
[03:56] <jmg> who maintains ubuntu.com ?
[03:56] <ripgut> me
[03:56] <jmg> the web page
[03:56] <dabaR> ok, well, I have a ssh, and a sftp server on my computer, redundant?
[03:56] <jmg> id like to ask some technical questions :)
[03:56] <ripgut> ask here
[03:56] <jmg> about Plone and moinmoin
[03:57] <jmg> how you got them to work together so convincingly
[03:57] <jtan325> gahhh both epiphany and firefox hang when i try to go to www.anandtech.com
[03:57] <jtan325> but many other sites work
[03:57] <dabaR> jtan325: ping.
[03:57] <jmg> i want to pervasive wikify our intranet
[03:57] <jmg> how cool is that phrase
[03:57] <jmg> i should be a phb
[03:57] <ripgut> im your father
[03:58] <Clujo> ssh is a secure shell to another computer.  sftp is an file transfer util.  different.
[03:58] <jmg> troll
[03:58] <jtan325> dabaR, "ping www.anandtech.com" seems to return nothing
[03:58] <ripgut> my bad
[03:58] <dabaR> jtan, like packets lost?
[03:58] <jtan325> yes
[03:58] <jtan325> pinging google.com and other sites works
[03:58] <dabaR> jtan, site down.
[03:58] <HrdwrBoB> Clujo: sftp is layered on top of ssh
[03:58] <HrdwrBoB> it's the same basic thing
[03:58] <Carpe_Libertatem> What's a good minimal IRC client that will let me have transparent backgrounds?
[03:59] <sn0n> Program received signal SIGFPE, Arithmetic exception.
[03:59] <sn0n> [Switching to Thread -1232757840 (LWP 28224)] 
[03:59] <sn0n> 0xb6162d07 in gst_ffmpegdeinterlace_register ()
[03:59] <sn0n>    from /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstffmpeg.so
[03:59] <sn0n> oops..
[03:59] <dabaR> Clujo: well, what then, why say in nautilus, you use ssh as the service type...and in windows, the secure ssh program...it uses ssh to copy files, and so on...whats the deal?
[03:59] <sn0n> sry bout that guys
[03:59] <nfinitep1astik> Carpe_Libertatem: irssi is pretty minimal
[03:59] <dabaR> HrdwrBoB: worked out ok, I did not get in much trouble.
[03:59] <benplaut> Carpe_Libertatem, BitchX, then edit your terminal to be transparent
[03:59] <HrdwrBoB> Carpe_Libertatem: irssi
[03:59] <HrdwrBoB> dabaR: good to hear
[03:59] <HrdwrBoB> benplaut: irssi > bitchx
[03:59] <benplaut> bah :P
[04:00] <Carpe_Libertatem> ty
[04:00] <nfinitep1astik> irssi == terminal based irc client
[04:00] <war-totem> robotgeek, rox-filer is great
[04:00] <jtan325> dabaR, i don't think it's a site down issue though
[04:00] <makkk> does anyone know why i get: 'Failed to fetch http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[04:00] <makkk> '?
[04:00] <jtan325> this has been going on for more than a day
[04:00] <robotgeek> war-totem: cool, i don't use one
[04:00] <benplaut> heh
[04:00] <benplaut> cool
[04:00] <jtan325> and it's not just anandtech
[04:00] <dabaR> jtan325: traceroute. its no installed by default.
[04:01] <nalioth> makkk: cuz his server is turned off atm?
[04:01] <war-totem> you recommended it though?
[04:01] <concept10> makkk: remove that from your sources.list
[04:01] <hussam> are there any mirrors to archive.ubuntu.com that are off ubuntu.com ?
[04:01] <brunolima> hey
[04:01] <makkk> concept10, but i want freenx for breezy
[04:01] <brunolima> how can i put som service on the boot ?
[04:01] <dabaR> hussam: think about security.
[04:01] <brunolima> without breaking the gnome system ?
[04:01] <dabaR> brunolima: dont use some.
[04:01] <makkk> does anyone know where else i can get freenx for breezy if not at seveas?
[04:02] <vbgunz> hello everyone!
[04:02] <concept10> makkk: like nalioth said... he doesnt keep his server on all day
[04:02] <dabaR> yo vbgunz .
[04:02] <yasser> hey how can i backup opera cookies/cache & gaim chat logs.....so I can have all that back...im formatting my hd.plz help!
[04:02] <ripgut> man, installing and updating from apt-get or synaptic is like sex!
[04:02] <vbgunz> hello dabaR
[04:02] <makkk> concept10, so just wait till later or is there a different source that you know of?
[04:02] <hussam> dabaR: what do you mean?
[04:02] <vbgunz> doea anyone know how to get the terminal to open up at the same place at the same width?
[04:02] <brunolima> dabaR, i made a firewall script and i'd like to put on the boot
[04:02] <sn0n> yasser, just save the dotfolders
[04:02] <dabaR> heh, as a side note, I am bringing about 20 ubuntu live and insatll cds to a unix class at my university thursday:)
[04:03] <vbgunz> and height*?
[04:03] <anomaly> riggut hard, fast and a little confusing?
[04:03] <yasser> no but im formatting my home
[04:03] <concept10> makkk: I dont know where you might get it.
[04:03] <ripgut> yea
[04:03] <jtan325> dabaR, so something like "traceroute www.anandtech.com"?
[04:03] <dabaR> hussam: you know why I insatll everything from ubuntu.com? cause I dont like viruses.
[04:03] <makkk> concept10. ok thanks
[04:03] <dabaR> jtan325: exactamant, please excuse my french.
[04:03] <sn0n> yasser, is you want to 'backup' anything.. you save the dotfolders.. thats a pretty simple concept
[04:04] <dabaR> brunolima: sounds good, put it in the right folder. I never did this, though, its like /etc/init.d or something.
[04:04] <yasser> hey im formatting home...but i want opera cookies/cache & gaim chat logs back....how do i back them up so I can reuse them?
[04:04] <anomaly> I am used to *bsd using mkisofs and burncd, does anyone do any cli linux cd writing?
[04:04] <jtan325> dabaR, sooo what am i supposed to see?
[04:04] <jtan325> or how should i make sense of the traceroute output?
[04:04] <dabaR> jtan325: exactly what you said.
[04:04] <jtan325> oh it's doing something
[04:04] <jtan325> goiing through devner, chicago, etc.
[04:04] <dabaR> ah...paste it, or something. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:04] <brunolima> dabaR, i put it there
[04:05] <dabaR> brunolima: as I said, I never did this.
[04:05] <brunolima> dabaR, but when i didi that my gnome didnt started up
[04:05] <sn0n> yasser,.. AGAIN.. save the dotfolders.. its not that hard.. mv ~/.* /backup/
[04:05] <sn0n> then move it back later
[04:05] <ripgut> ok, installed gnome-devel
[04:05] <concept10> makkk: http://freenx.berlios.de/download.php
[04:05] <rob_p> brunolima:  There are several ways to do it but usually just making sure it follows conventions (start/stop arguments, etc.) and then putting in in /etc/init.d.  Once you've done that, just use the update-rc.d tool to add it to the desired run levels.
[04:06] <ripgut> and tried apt-get install build-essential but it says i already have it
[04:06] <ripgut> 0.)
[04:06] <jtan325> dabaR, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2174
[04:06] <makkk> concept10, I'm seeing forum postings about problems with this site... has it worked for you?
[04:06] <dabaR> ya somewhere on their subnet its borked.
[04:06] <dabaR> jtan325: do you have a router?
[04:06] <jtan325> yes
[04:06] <ripgut> ooookkaaaay, so what do i do now guys?
[04:06] <bimberi> ripgut: fine, retry your ./configure
[04:07] <ripgut> same thing bimberi
[04:07] <concept10> makkk: I havent tried. Just download them and try, or compile yourself.
[04:07] <makkk> o
[04:07] <makkk> k
[04:07] <dabaR> jtan325: see the last IP it fails on? it is very similar to the one you are trying to get to, you can see that from the first line.
[04:07] <jtan325> ok
[04:07] <dabaR> I mean, the last IP it works on..
[04:07] <dabaR> the first that times out, is your router.
[04:07] <bimberi> ripgut: i guess, although someone did suggest checkinstall which might be a good idea (but optional)
[04:07] <dabaR> routers dont like pings.
[04:08] <BlueEagle> reiki: I'm alive, yes.
[04:08] <dabaR>  /traceroutes
[04:08] <dabaR> jtan325: remember this, taht is basic network troubleshooting.
[04:08] <jtan325> what?
[04:08] <reiki> wow... BlueEagle... that was from HOURS ago when I was still at work! hehehe
[04:08] <jtan325> sorry, i am really bad with networking stuff
[04:08] <vbgunz> really quickly, anyone know how to get the terminal to open in the same position at the same width and height?
[04:08] <dabaR> jtan325: the traceroute, and ping. which is also the extent of what i Know:)
[04:08] <BlueEagle> reiki: Well, better late then never, right?
[04:08] <jtan325> all i know is iwconfig, ifconfig, dhclient...
[04:09] <reiki> BlueEagle: it is good to know that you are still among the living however :)
[04:09] <dabaR> vbgunz: same as what.
[04:09] <BlueEagle> reiki: Hehe.
[04:09] <linuxpoet> O.k. does anyone know why it takes so ***long*** to encode MP3s in Linux versus Windows
[04:09] <reiki> :)
[04:09] <andysl> Hey...
[04:09] <BlueEagle> linuxpoet: Are the parameters the same (ie bitrate and so on?)
[04:09] <ripgut> checkinstall is not a recognized command
[04:09] <vbgunz> I mean it always opens up small up on the middle of the screen... currently I have it flushed to the bottom of the screen from left to right... it doesn't open like that and no options to have it open like that are visible...
[04:09] <BlueEagle> linuxpoet: Also, I would recomend using .ogg instead of .mp3
[04:09] <linuxpoet> BlueEagle: yes... this is actually something I have observed over time
[04:10] <linuxpoet> BlueEagle: When .ogg works in my car... I will gladly use it
[04:10] <BlueEagle> linuxpoet: Bahh, stupid people with cars... :p
[04:10] <andysl> I'm running Ubuntu Breezy Preview 5.10 and I am trying to use the nvidia-glx drivers with X.org.  However, it fails to load at a resolution higher than 800x600.  I know for a fact that it should support 1024x768.  I'm on a Toshiba Satellite 2415-S205.
[04:10] <linuxpoet> heh
[04:10] <PhythonNew> can anyone help me how can i add a new drive
[04:10] <HrdwrBoB> !resolution
[04:10] <ubotu> resolution is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:10] <andysl> This is a clean, fresh install of Ubuntu Breezy Preview 5.10, not an upgrade from Ubuntu Hoary.
[04:10] <benplaut> whoa!
[04:10] <brenner> ripgut: you need to install it, although you should maybe check if you have all the libraries 1st...i'm not sure how checkinstall checks for those
[04:10] <PhythonNew> its file system is FAT32
[04:10] <benplaut> the official firefox build is frickin fast!
[04:10] <BlueEagle> andysl: which driver is set in your xorg.conf?
[04:11] <andysl> BlueEagle:  "nvidia"
[04:11] <PhythonNew> and its partition in 20 20 G
[04:11] <nalioth> brenner: checkinstall calls dpkg which checks
[04:11] <brenner> benplaut: 1.0.6?
[04:11] <BlueEagle> andysl: How is your monitor configured?
[04:11] <brenner> nalioth: ah, ok
[04:11] <dabaR> later.
[04:11] <vbgunz> no one knows how to get the terminal to open the same way it closed?
[04:11] <benplaut> brenner, yeah
[04:11] <smurf> you set it as nvidia even if you install the glx from the package manager?
[04:11] <benplaut> tons faster at page rendering
[04:12] <andysl> BlueEagle:  Not sure, I'm going to try this FixVideoResolutionHowto WIKI really quick.  I will get back to you shortly.
[04:12] <andysl> Thank you.
[04:12] <bimberi> ripgut: checkinstall is in (yet another) package - hopefully a bit smaller this time :).  I've not used it though but it does sound like a good idea
[04:12] <nalioth> vbgunz: you need to set your termrc or something like that with dimensions
[04:12] <ripgut> so what do i need to do
[04:12] <BlueEagle> andysl: Well I'm going off. Just popped by to check if I had any msgs in my away log.
[04:12] <ripgut> install checkinstall?
[04:12] <vbgunz> termrc is a command ? I'll try it
[04:12] <nalioth> vbgunz: check google for "xterm settings" or something similar
[04:12] <PhythonNew> can anyone help me how to add a new drive
[04:13] <robotgeek> Plazma: great!
[04:13] <nalioth> vbgunz: no, anythingrc is anythings setting file
[04:13] <bimberi> ripgut: i would (fwiw)
[04:13] <PhythonNew> its file system is FAT32
[04:13] <PhythonNew> and its partition in 20 20 G
[04:13] <nalioth> vbgunz: you have all kinds of *rc files to tell your programs how to work
[04:13] <BlueEagle> reiki: How is your usb drive working? Still going strong?
[04:13] <brenner> bimberi: a *very* good idea....most useful thing afaik, is that you can remove the package later....i don't know how the heck you'd do that with a source package. (well, besides a make uninstall)
[04:13] <vbgunz> one question... what is the official way to ask for help on the command line? is it /? -? --? /help -help OR --help?
[04:13] <Plazma> robotgeek, im excited as all hell now hehe im giddy
[04:13] <ripgut> ok im installing checkinstall, thank you
[04:13] <brenner> s/afaik/imo
[04:13] <robotgeek> Plazma: :)
[04:14] <reiki> BlueEagle: yes... thanks! :)
[04:14] <BlueEagle> Very good. :)
[04:14] <vbgunz> *rc files manipulate configurations then correct nalioth?
[04:14] <inva|id> how would I open a gnome session on :1 (using breezy) .. it seems just to open a blank X window with the old method
[04:14] <reiki> indeed
[04:14] <bimberi> brenner: yes, that's exactly what i was thinking.
[04:14] <nalioth> vbgunz: usually programname --help
[04:14] <ripgut> ok so i did a "checkinstall" and got an error saying: installation failed. Aborting package creation"
[04:14] <pluggo> vbgunz, it varies, but usually -?, --help or no arguments (as well as "man command"  or "info command") should do it
[04:14] <nalioth> vbgunz: on most programs, yes, the *rc tell it how to act
[04:14] <vbgunz> oh ok so to --help, perfect.. I am proud... I am actually remembering some commands important to me
[04:15] <brunolima> i found a bug on Ubuntu
[04:15] <inva|id> brunolima: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
 --usage is also nice
[04:15] <ripgut> says "no rule to make targer "install". stop"
[04:15] <vbgunz> nice... so cool, thank you fellas, I'll look into man pages soon, I heard I should be looking at them
[04:15] <cfh_dev> How come dist-upgrading from hoary to breezy removes amarok*, k3b and others?
[04:15] <andysl> lets see if this works
[04:16] <andysl> b4b
[04:16] <vbgunz> thanks again fellas, I am starving and the wifey cooked some feti and chicken, thanks!
[04:16] <bob2> cfh_dev: that's very unlikely to happen unless you've been using non-ubuntu apt sources
[04:17] <cfh_dev> bob2: amarok shows ubuntu4 in dpkg's package name.  Anything else I can check?
[04:17] <vbgunz> not sure if ya got my message, THANKS!
[04:17] <vbgunz> gotta go!
[04:17] <brenner> ripgut: maybe you got the wrong package?  do you have a link?
[04:17] <ghost_> does enyone know what might be wrong with my cd burner keeps on telling me to insert a blanck cd
[04:17] <ripgut> naw i just did what yall told me to do
[04:18] <kuko_> wenas
[04:18] <ripgut> and taht was "apt-get install gnome-devel
[04:18] <kuko_> soy novato alguien me xa una mano
[04:18] <brenner> ripgut: er, no...i mean....what exactly are you trying to install
[04:18] <ripgut> gnomad2
[04:18] <brenner> ?
[04:19] <ghost_> ??
[04:19] <ghost_> with the gnome cd/dvd writer
[04:19] <iratsu> besides mplayer, can any media player play subtitle files?
[04:20] <ghost_> not my burner cause its fine
[04:20] <brenner> ghost_: places > home > go > cd/dvd creator
[04:20] <bob2> HrdwrBoB: you're evil
[04:21] <ghost_> it wont burn it tells me to put a blank cd in
[04:21] <HrdwrBoB> bob2: muahahaha
[04:21] <carthik> I have 1.25 Gigs of Memory on this laptop, but the "System Monitor" and top tell me I only have 885.4 MB -- why could this be?
[04:21] <bob2> carthik: what cpu?
[04:22] <carthik> bob2: pentium m 1.3 Ghz ("centrino")
[04:22] <holycow> carthik, your using the wrong kernel
[04:22] <bob2> carthik: sudo aptitude install linux-686
[04:22] <carthik> holycow, I know - but earlier that did not show me i had less memory than I have -- and in any case 386 should work fine
[04:23] <HrdwrBoB> 386 will work
[04:23] <HrdwrBoB> but it doesn';t have saupport for > 880 mb ram
[04:23] <carthik> bob2, shouldnt 386 work just fine though - and use the right amount of memory?
[04:23] <brenner> carthik: nope...386 has a limit iirc
[04:23] <holycow> no, the 386 kernel is not compiled to see more than 800 ram or so
[04:23] <bob2> carthik: no
[04:23] <bob2> carthik: using above 896MB of RAM needs a special kernel option
[04:23] <carthik> HrdwrBoB, bob2, brenner - super! thanks
[04:23] <holycow> it will work you will only have what you have available
[04:23] <bob2> and involves slowing down RAM accesses
[04:23] <bob2> so the 386 one doesn't have it
[04:24] <ghost_> ???
[04:24] <carthik> also -- have heard that linux tries to use around 90%+ of the ram for caching/paging to optimize performance -- why doesnt mine do this? Is this also related to the -386 image?
[04:24] <brunolima> i reported the bug
[04:24] <bytefoo> /usr/sbin/prelink.bin: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/libgtkembedmoz.so: Could not find one of the dependencies
[04:24] <bytefoo> :(
[04:24] <brunolima> hope they can make for final 5.10
[04:24] <brunolima> :)
[04:24] <brenner> ghost_: i've heard of this before...search the forum
[04:24] <ghost_> k
[04:24] <ghost_> thnx
[04:24] <brenner> ripgut: just a sec...looking at the gnomad site
[04:25] <bob2> carthik: the kernel does not know about any ram on your machine above 896MB
[04:25] <ghost_> im out cya
[04:25] <bob2> bytefoo: don't use prelink
[04:25] <bytefoo> what why
[04:25] <carthik> bob2 - yes, but it does not use 90% of the memory it does know about?
[04:25] <bytefoo> all the forums say to use it :|
[04:25] <bytefoo> crap there is so many dependency errors :/
[04:25] <brenner> ripgut: er, gnomad2 seems to be in the repo...
[04:25] <bob2> carthik: give it time
[04:25] <ripgut> eh?
[04:26] <bob2> bytefoo: the forums are inhabited by people who apparently have little understanding of what they are doing
[04:26] <brenner> ripgut: why are you installing from source if it's in the repo
[04:26] <brenner> ?
[04:26] <carthik> bob2, oh, okay, I see - it is because i dont leave the laptop turned on, unlike the desktop -- thanks again
[04:26] <ripgut> i dunno
[04:26] <bytefoo> well crap :/
[04:26] <ripgut> what do i do
[04:26] <bytefoo> is it going to explode my kernel, what with all these errors :|
[04:26] <bytefoo> non-PIC shared library and such :|
[04:26] <brenner> ripgut: enable universe repo, then: sudo apt-get install gnomad2
[04:26] <bob2> carthik: right
[04:27] <brenner> ripgut: and it's installed..... :)
[04:27] <bob2> carthik: it only caches things you acceess
[04:27] <bob2> bytefoo: non-PIC shared libraries are bugs anyway
[04:27] <brenner> ripgut: ALWAYS check the repo first...i should've done it earlier
[04:27] <bob2> but prelink shouldn't make things break
[04:27] <ripgut> it installed ^.^ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111
[04:27] <bytefoo> ok
[04:27] <brenner> ripgut: you're doing things the hard way
[04:27] <ripgut> im a noob
[04:27] <bytefoo> well out of curiousity, why shouldn't i use it?
[04:27] <brenner> ripgut: via apt-get?
[04:27] <ripgut> yea
[04:27] <brenner> ripgut: ok, well, lesson learnt. :)
[04:27] <imterro> hey guys...
[04:27] <ripgut> so now....
[04:28] <ripgut> what do i do
[04:28] <imterro> how would you add someone to the sudo lis?
[04:28] <ripgut> to access this thing
[04:28] <brenner> ripgut: this isn't windows, you don't have to hunt around anymore...generally. :D
[04:28] <brenner> ripgut: run it
[04:28] <brenner> ripgut: search in the apps menu, or type gnomad2 in a terminal
[04:28] <brenner> probably
[04:28] <brenner> ubotu: tell imterro about sudo
[04:29] <ripgut> ok, it starts but it gives the error, "no jukebozes found"
[04:29] <ripgut> jukeboxes*
[04:29] <paladin2> I just wanted to start by saying thanks - my brother in law turned me o to linux awhile about 6 months ago, I onstalled Ubuntu, and I'm never going back!  :)
[04:29] <brenner> ripgut: er, do you have it plugged in?
[04:29] <bimberi> imterro: sudo adduser <username> admin
[04:29] <ripgut> yup
[04:30] <brenner> paladin2: good to hear. :)
[04:30] <bimberi> imterro: members of the admin group get sudo access
[04:30] <bimberi> onya paladin2!
[04:30] <brenner> ripgut: dunno....start reading the docs i guess. (i don't have a jukebox)
[04:31] <paladin2> In six months, I've gotten so much more out of ubuntu than I did out of windoze in years.  Good job guys.
[04:31] <ripgut> i dont either, this is a Zen Micor, but i was told gnomad2-2.8.1 would work with this
[04:31] <carthik> One question -- When I install something and get "Suggested" packages -- why are they suggested? Do they add functionality and should I install them?
[04:31] <paladin2> I didn't need any help, just wanted to give kudos... :)
[04:31] <andysl> Okay, I'm back.
[04:31] <brenner> ripgut: crap...the repo version is only 2.5
[04:32] <andysl> I still cannot make my resolution 1024x768.
[04:32] <khermans> is it okay to change all hoary in sources.list to breezy to test out?
[04:32] <bimberi> carthik: sometimes they are the related help files or the like
[04:32] <khermans> i am on amd64
[04:32] <andysl> khermans:  I tried that, and it failed it.
[04:32] <brenner> ripgut: you'll have to go back and install from source.. :-/
[04:32] <ripgut> ok, so how do i do that
[04:32] <khermans> andysl, how can i try breezy without reinstall?
[04:32] <andysl> Please help me out someone who knows about Toshiba Satellite 2415-S205.
[04:32] <brenner> khermans: if you test, it's hard to go back. :)
[04:32] <xuniluser> Hi! Do you know how to use dongle-based windows apps in wine? Example: MultiSIM
[04:32] <andysl> khermans:  I tried doing a dist-upgrade, but the systme became very slow.
[04:32] <carthik> bimberi, i get binaries and drivers too, sometimes - like nvidia-glx for limux-686, for example...
[04:32] <andysl> khermans:  I just did a straight install from scratch.
[04:32] <khermans> brenner, well yes
[04:33] <brenner> andysl: post your xorg.conf file to pastebin in topic
[04:33] <andysl> brenner: ok
[04:33] <Ruggy> can anyone point me to the best deal they know of for a nice laptop?
[04:33] <rabbitman1968> i need some help
[04:33] <khermans> ugh, my system is basically hosed -- i wanted to install drscheme, which is not available in hoary amd64 -- so i trued grabbing from debian stable repos, and munged my system badly
[04:33] <rabbitman1968> please
[04:33] <bimberi> carthik: yeah, i just trust the package maintainer :)
[04:33] <brenner> ripgut: which package did you get from the SF site?
[04:33] <DaTwo> kan someone help me?  im a complete linux n00b & im trying 2 mount my hard drives
[04:33] <carthik> bimberi, so should i installed the suggested package or not?
[04:34] <ripgut> gnomad2-.2.8.1
[04:34] <khermans> i wanted to build drscheme from source on amd64, but it failed during "sudo make install"!
[04:34] <brenner> khermans: ouch
[04:34] <rabbitman1968> i am also a noob and I really need some help installing Yahoo Messenger
[04:34] <carthik> rabbitman1968, use gaim
[04:34] <brenner> ripgut: file format?
[04:34] <bimberi> carthik: only if you know you'll need it
[04:34] <rabbitman1968> yes, but i need the voice features in YM
[04:34] <carthik> rabbitman1968, it is already in Application -> Internet on your desktop
[04:34] <brenner> ripgut: i.e. rpm or tgz?
[04:34] <ripgut> .tar.gz
[04:34] <rabbitman1968> right, but u cant talk thru gaim
[04:34] <ripgut> tgz
[04:35] <paladin2> Actually, come to think of it, I do have a problem - whenever I try to install Wine with Winetools, it freezes while installing IE.  Go figger.  M$ manages to mess up linux too...
[04:35] <andysl> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2175 <--
[04:35] <brenner> ripgut: ok, and using checkinstall says no make install target?
[04:35] <andysl> brenner, sorry: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2175
[04:36] <ripgut> ill paste the error checkinstall gives me in #flood
[04:36] <carthik> rabbitman1968, never been in that situation - maybe you can install yahoo's own linux client if that supports sound?
[04:36] <brenner> ripgut: hang on...i'm not in tehre yet
[04:36] <rabbitman1968> right..i'm so new to this..i've dl'ed the debian ym
[04:36] <andysl> brenner: o_O
[04:36] <rabbitman1968> how do i install it?
[04:36] <carthik> andysl, have you looked at http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/hosted/satellite2415-s205.html
[04:36] <PhythonNew> can anyone help me how can i add a new drive
[04:36] <waltman> i installed ubuntu from the 5.10 preview release.  it looks like there's a problem with the default x config.  when i try to run a simple app like xlogo, it says "Warning: Cannot convert string "xlogo32" to type Pixmap"
[04:36] <brenner> ripgut: ok
[04:36] <miguel> hello
[04:36] <carthik> rabbitman1968, the instructions should be at the webpage, or in the download
[04:36] <hybrid_goth> rabbitman1968: dpkg -i <deb>
[04:36] <brenner> andysl: ?
[04:36] <waltman> anyone know what's causing that?
[04:36] <andysl> brenner, sorry: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2175
[04:37] <DaTwo> kan some1 halp me mount my hard drives?
[04:37] <carthik> rabbitman1968, add a sudo to the beggining of that command...
[04:37] <DaTwo> *help
[04:37] <rabbitman1968> yes..i see that everywhere, 'type dpkg -i <deb>
[04:37] <carthik> DaTwo, what seems to be the problem?
[04:37] <rabbitman1968> WHERE do i type that?
[04:37] <carthik> rabbitman1968, in a terminal window
[04:37] <brenner> andysl: yeah, i'm loading it
[04:37] <hybrid_goth> carthik: ty i forgot
[04:37] <carthik> rabbitman1968, Applications -> System tools -> Terminal
[04:38] <brenner> ripgut: you're invoking it wrong
[04:38] <carthik> rabbitman1968, the terminal is your friend :)
[04:38] <ripgut> ok
[04:38] <carthik> hybrid_goth, not at all :)
[04:38] <ripgut> so how do i invoke it right?
[04:38] <brenner> ripgut: cd into the directory you extracted the source to
[04:38] <rabbitman1968> thre's not a TERMINAL in APP>system tools
[04:38] <DaTwo> im not sure how to mount drives.  i've tried to do it using the terminal & the root terminal but i dont really know what im doing
[04:38] <ripgut> im in the directory
[04:38] <brenner> ripgut: actaully, been a while since i used it
[04:38] <carthik> DaTwo, okay, where are the drives at? in an external hard disk?
[04:38] <brenner> ripgut: man checkinstall
[04:38] <ripgut> ok
[04:39] <brenner> andysl: er, you don't have any mode lines
[04:39] <ripgut> now what
[04:39] <andysl> brenner?
[04:39] <andysl> what's a modline
[04:39] <str8edge> !repositories
[04:39] <ubotu> from memory, repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:39] <DaTwo> they're local hard drives  hda1 & hdb1
[04:39] <brenner> ripgut: find out how to use it... :-/ sorry
[04:39] <ripgut> damn....
[04:39] <DaTwo> internal
[04:39] <andysl> i thought modelines dont exist in x.org
[04:39] <andysl> o-o
[04:40] <rabbitman1968> Terminal is not in that list..how do i make it show up?
[04:40] <carthik> DaTwo, and are those windows partitions?
[04:40] <brenner> andysl: why wouldn't they?
[04:40] <DaTwo> yes
[04:40] <DaTwo> ntfs
[04:40] <brenner> ripgut: sorry...it's been a while since i used it...but you're nearly there!
[04:40] <ripgut> i know i am
[04:40] <ripgut> thank you btw
[04:40] <carthik> DaTwo, and if you open /etc/fstab can you see entries corresponding to the partitions?
[04:40] <bimberi> ripgut: did you get ./configure to work?
[04:40] <brenner> ripgut: sure.
[04:41] <ripgut> ./configure doesn't work
[04:41] <rabbitman1968> carthik...how do i get TERMINAL to show up in System tools
[04:41] <carthik> rabbitman1968, it is already there....
[04:41] <ripgut> actually it did
[04:41] <brenner> bimberi: he's trying checkinstall
[04:41] <rabbitman1968> i'm telling u..it's NOT listed
[04:41] <zdennis> i've got a text file that says it is *busy*. How can I determine what has it open so I can remove it?
[04:41] <bob2> "you"
[04:41] <brenner> ripgut: i'd still use checkinstall...
[04:42] <carthik> rabbitman, okay, if you can find it now, press "Alt"and"F2" together
[04:42] <bimberi> brenner: i know, but doesn't checkinstall only do the "make install"?  ./configure and make have to be done first (unfortunatly i am guessing though)
[04:42] <rabbitman1968> k..
[04:42] <brenner> andysl: did you run the reconfigure for the xorg package on the wiki?
[04:42] <carthik> and then in the "Run Application" window that shows up, type gnome-terminal
[04:42] <DaTwo> no
[04:42] <brenner> bimberi: does it all afaik
[04:42] <bimberi> brenner: ah, k :)
[04:42] <ksmurf> what is the easiest way to convert a .bin to .iso?
[04:42] <brenner> bimberi: i was told it even installs the deb package it makes
[04:42] <bz0b> hey all
[04:43] <bimberi> brenner: yep, read that too :)
[04:43] <ksmurf> hey bz
[04:43] <carthik> DaTwo, use the name (nickname) of the person you are talking to, so everyone knows who you are talking to
[04:43] <carthik> ubotu tell DaTwo about ntfs
[04:43] <bz0b> can someone tell me what ipp and sometimes-rpc3 are, because i just nmaped myself, and i dont know how to stop those
[04:43] <carthik> DaTwo, check what ubotu told you :)
[04:43] <brenner> bimberi: would you know of the usage syntax? :)  i forgot and ripgut needs it.
[04:43] <remyforbes777> i cant get ubuntu 64 to get past the login screen on my amd 64 laptop
[04:44] <DaTwo> carthik, ok
[04:44] <PhoenixP3K> Does anyone remembers the name of the app to edit GRUB ?
[04:44] <bimberi> brenner: just simply "checkinstall" (in the dir) from what i can tell
[04:44] <remyforbes777> it keeps freezing on kde and gnome
[04:44] <rabbitman1968> carthik..i enter the command and here's what i get ' requested operation requires superuser privilege
[04:44] <rabbitman1968> '
[04:44] <bz0b> PhoenixP3K, its called finding the grub file and opening it with gedit
[04:44] <bob2> PhoenixP3K: "a text editor"
[04:44] <carthik> rabbitman1968, did you enter only just "gnome-terminal" ?
[04:44] <bz0b> bob2, hehe, yup!
[04:45] <ripgut> well checkinstall and ./configure both are not working
[04:45] <rabbitman1968> yes
[04:45] <carthik> rabbitman1968, are you using Kubuntu (kde) ?
[04:45] <rabbitman1968> no..ubuntu
[04:45] <rabbitman1968> just  ubuntu
[04:45] <carthik> rabbitman1968, that is wicked/strange
[04:45] <carthik> rabbitman1968, is this not your own computer?
[04:45] <PhoenixP3K> lol I know you can use the text editor :p but I recall using a nice little programm once :(
[04:45] <rabbitman1968> carthik, should i switch to Kubuntu
[04:45] <carthik> rabbitman1968, oh no, that is not needed
[04:46] <rabbitman1968> carthik..it's mine..i just installed ubuntu...made a 20 gig partition...and installed
[04:46] <brenner> ripgut: errors?
[04:46] <bz0b> brb guys, moms just made some true itallian style spaghetti! :P
[04:46] <ripgut> ill post them
[04:46] <bz0b> or as somepeople call it, Prego!
[04:46] <bz0b> hehe
[04:46] <ksmurf> what is the easiest way to convert a .bin to .iso?
[04:46] <carthik> rabbitman1968, hold on a sec, pls
[04:47] <rabbitman1968> ty
[04:47] <brunolima> ksmurf, bin2iso
[04:47] <rabbitman1968> lmao, bz0b...it's the best
[04:47] <remyforbes777> anyone know why ubuntu 64 would keep freezing up on login on my amd 64 laptop
[04:47] <Blue-Box> wow
[04:47] <ksmurf> brunolima where from?
[04:47] <Blue-Box> a lot of people
[04:47] <DaTwo> ubotu, how do i use the utility?
[04:47] <ubotu> Wish i knew, DaTwo
[04:47] <reiki> :)
[04:47] <remyforbes777> it does it with kde and gnome
[04:47] <carthik> DaTwo, ubotu is a bot :)
[04:48] <bob2> there is no "ubuntu 64"
[04:48] <DaTwo> ubotu, lol ok ill try 2 figure it out
[04:48] <ubotu> DaTwo: I give up, what is it?
[04:48] <bob2> anywhere, ever
[04:48] <DaTwo> carthik, ok lol
[04:48] <bob2> remyforbes777: have you filed a bug?
[04:48] <DaTwo> carthik, do u know how 2 use the utility?
[04:48] <carthik> rabbitman1968, doesnt your menu look like this: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=305&slide=49 ?
[04:48] <ripgut> *both errors posted*
[04:48] <bob2> ripgut: wtf
[04:48] <bob2> ripgut: gnomad2 is in ubuntu
[04:48] <remyforbes777> anyone know why ubuntu 64 would keep freezing up on login on my amd 64 laptop
[04:49] <remyforbes777> it does it with kde and gnome
[04:49] <rabbitman1968> carthik,  what menu?
[04:49] <bob2> remyforbes777: have you filed a bug or not?
[04:49] <brenner> nalioth: bob2 he needs the latest version
[04:49] <brenner> whoops
[04:49] <remyforbes777> no
[04:49] <bob2> wtf
[04:49] <bob2> remyforbes777: then do so
[04:49] <carthik> rabbitman1968,  the screenshot that i just linked to - dont you have a menu like that?
[04:49] <bob2> ripgut: sudo apt-get build-dep gnomad2
[04:49] <bob2> ripgut: then it will compile fine
[04:49] <carthik> (a menu is a list of things).... ?
[04:49] <brenner> bob2: you wouldn't happen to know checkinstall's usage syntax would you?
[04:49] <remyforbes777> there is an ubuntu for amd 64's isnt there
[04:49] <remyforbes777> i downloadedthe iso ima ge for it
[04:49] <bob2> no, I don't use checkinstall
[04:49] <nalioth> brenner: what version is that?
[04:49] <bob2> remyforbes777: yes
[04:49] <luckyaba> yes
[04:49] <rabbitman1968> carthik, let me look
[04:50] <remyforbes777> ok
[04:50] <brenner> nalioth: 2.8 iirc
[04:50] <PhoenixP3K> Found it :p Grub Conf (grubconf) for lazy people and pro-GUI guys :D
[04:50] <carthik> DaTwo, there are instructions in the file ??? seventh line or so...
[04:50] <nalioth> brenner: sorry i'm lost.
[04:51] <DaTwo> carthik, thanks! :D
[04:51] <brenner> nalioth: nvm, you would know checkinstall's syntax though ...how do you invoke it again?
[04:51] <rabbitman1968> Carthik, just like that except NO 'Root Terminal' between "New Login' and 'Run as Different User'
[04:51] <bob2> ripgut: run that command
[04:51] <carthik> rabbitman1968, do you have the "Terminal" second from bottom like int he screenshot?
[04:51] <TokenBad> can use apt-get to get pine for ubuntu?
[04:52] <bob2> TokenBad: perhaps the source is in multiverse
[04:52] <carthik> rabbitman1968, that is a screenshot from a fresh ubuntu install, and yours should be the same unless you changed something - which you said you havent
[04:52] <rabbitman1968> Carthik, 'Terminal' or 'Root Terminal' are NOT in that LIST in my MENU
[04:52] <nalioth> brenner: it should automagically do it's duty when installed from the repos. use it in place of "make install"
[04:52] <brenner> bob2: damn, that's a useful command alright.
[04:52] <bob2> it's not in ubuntu itself because ubuntu isn't allowed to include it
[04:52] <ripgut> i did bob2
[04:52] <bytefoo> is there a way to reload the time daemon :|
[04:52] <brunolima> going for sleep
[04:52] <ripgut> still don't work
[04:52] <brunolima> bye
[04:52] <rabbitman1968> carthik, i havent changed anything as i dont know how
[04:52] <TokenBad> I did apt-get install pine
[04:52] <brenner> nalioth: ah, ok, so just run in the dir...thanks
[04:52] <TokenBad> it didn't work
[04:52] <TokenBad> say it couldn't fine it
[04:52] <bob2> TokenBad: yes, it's not in ubuntu
[04:52] <rabbitman1968> carthik, should i reinstall Ubuntu?
[04:52] <carthik> bob2, why would someone's ubuntu not have menu entries for Terminal post-install? beats me?
[04:52] <bob2> TokenBad: because the license forbids ubuntu or anyone else to include it
[04:52] <DaTwo> carthik, should i run it in terminal or root terminal?
[04:53] <carthik> rabbitman1968, i dont know, we'll find out soon
[04:53] <bob2> carthik: dunno, but if it's breezy they should be filing a bug
[04:53] <bob2> assuming they have ubuntu-desktop installed
[04:53] <carthik> DaTwo, in a normal terminal
[04:53] <rabbitman1968> ty
[04:53] <ThisGuy> Hey, I came across this on the forums today, has anyone else seen it?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64629&highlight=EasyUbuntu
[04:53] <carthik> DaTwo, the sudo takes care of things
[04:53] <TokenBad> so just have to download the deb and install it?
[04:53] <bob2> ripgut: "don't work"? what did apt do when you ran it?
[04:53] <carthik> rabbitman1968, did you download "Breezy" ?
[04:53] <bob2> TokenBad: no
[04:53] <ThisGuy> Write it down, give it to beginners.
[04:53] <bob2> TokenBad: as I said, you need to get the source and build it
[04:54] <bob2> I wish the forums people would write proper documentation and put it on the wiki
[04:54] <rabbitman1968> carthik, NO. what is BREEZY?
[04:54] <carthik> rabbitman1968, looks like you downloaded the image for the upcoming release's testing version
[04:54] <TokenBad> oh...that sucks
[04:54] <bob2> TokenBad: yes, pine is very old and non-free
[04:54] <rabbitman1968> carthik...of course i did.....where do i get a working version?
[04:54] <carthik> rabbitman1968, do you have the link from where you downloaded the image for the installation?
[04:54] <bob2> TokenBad: why not use mutt instead?
[04:54] <war-totem> whats the command to search for a file?
[04:54] <war-totem> through a terminal
[04:54] <TokenBad> mutt does that to?
[04:54] <rabbitman1968> carthik, sure i do, let me reboot into my stupid winxp pro and find it
[04:54] <bimberi> war-totem: locate <file>
[04:55] <carthik> rabbitman1968, hold on
[04:55] <war-totem> bimberi, thank you
[04:55] <bob2> TokenBad: mutt is a console mail client, yes
[04:55] <bimberi> war-totem: yw
[04:55] <paladin2> Hey again.
[04:55] <TokenBad> shoot...I had total wrong program in mine
[04:55] <carthik> rabbitman1968, before you do that let me tell you where to get the right one
[04:55] <rabbitman1968> carthik..cool..tks
[04:55] <carthik> rabbitman1968, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ -> please get the one under "HOARY" only....
[04:55] <TokenBad> I mean the program for running windows program under linux
[04:55] <rabbitman1968> carthik.....i'll have to burn another cd?
[04:55] <paladin2> I need help getting inkscape .42 to work -> unmet dependencies.
[04:55] <TokenBad> not cedega
[04:55] <TokenBad> but the other that was before that
[04:56] <ghost_> wats the ubuntu-desktop pakage
[04:56] <carthik> rabbitman1968, the second set of download links -- HOARY is what you want :)
[04:56] <bob2> TokenBad: wine
[04:56] <TokenBad> thats it
[04:56] <carthik> rabbitman1968, unfortunately you seem to have issues with the cutting edge version being tested, so yes, you will have to reinstall :(
[04:56] <ghost_> it pulls in for uninstall wen i try to uninstall cd/dvd creator
[04:56] <bob2> paladin2: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[04:56] <TokenBad> jeeze forget my head if it wasn't attached
[04:56] <DaTwo> carthik, what does it mean by "save this file on your local hard drive"
[04:56] <rabbitman1968> carthik. ok..THANKS for your help. will i be able to burn that image thru ubuntu i have?
[04:56] <TokenBad> sorry bob2
[04:56] <paladin2> no problem. gimme a minute
[04:57] <carthik> rabbitman1968, maybe not... download and burn somewhere where you know you will be able to burn -- to avaoid wasting time :)
[04:57] <khermans> anyone running mozilla-thunderbird on AMD64?
[04:57] <khermans> i think i found a security vulnerability
[04:57] <brenner> quick question: how do i close an irssi "screen"
[04:58] <brenner> ?
[04:58] <bob2> brenner: a window? /window close
[04:58] <ghost_> ??
[04:58] <brenner> bob2: worked. thanks
[04:58] <bob2> carthik: known issue
[04:58] <ndisy> hello, can anybody direct me on how to install gnome 2.12 in ubuntu hoary?
[04:58] <rabbitman1968> carthik.....how can i download that file to anywhere but this fat32/ubuntu partition?
[04:58] <carthik> bob2, thanks :)
[04:58] <Roballegro> Help! The last set of autoupdates evidently freaked the HZ setting for my monitor. All I get is a rolling screen now. How can I patch the ubuntu display settings to get my display back?
[04:59] <brenner> Roballegro: reconfig the xorg package
[04:59] <zefyrus> hi all
[04:59] <carthik> rabbitman1968, you should probably boot into windows (one last time?) and download it there? I am not sure things will work fine for you, and you will have to log out of linux anyways :)
[04:59] <bob2> ndisy: you don't, you'd upgrade to breezy if yo uwanted that
[04:59] <ghost_> ctr+alt bkspace
[04:59] <SymGeosis> Roballegro, start up in rescue mode and reconfig x via dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:59] <ghost_> and edit x config
[04:59] <rabbitman1968> carthik..thanks, that's what i'll do, i really appreciate your help.......................grace and peace
[05:00] <ndisy> is it possible to without upgrading to breezy?
[05:00] <carthik> rabbitman1968, anytime
[05:00] <SymGeosis> or you could do as ghost_ says.
[05:00] <bob2> paladin2: talk to the backport monkeys
[05:00] <bob2> ndisy: not really
[05:00] <khermans> If anyone is running Thunderbird on AMD64, see if this security flaw affects you -- appears to be a bug in line 159 of run-mozilla.sh -- get a seg fault when trying the IMPORT command
[05:00] <ndisy> ok, thanx
[05:00] <ghost_> ur way is easier tho
[05:00] <zefyrus> i got the Fatal server error:
[05:00] <zefyrus> xf86OpenConsole: Server must be suid root
[05:00] <zefyrus> what do i have to do to fix this
[05:00] <bob2> zefyrus: and what did you modify by hand?
[05:01] <synae> i would like to run a mysql server, and i believe it is installed correctly- what is the command to run it?
[05:01] <ghost_> so.. wats the ubuntu-desktop package
[05:01] <carthik> synae, you mean to start it?
[05:01] <zefyrus> bob2, i did nothing
[05:01] <bob2> synae: mysql-server is the package, and if you have it installed, it's already running
[05:01] <khermans> synae, /etvc/init.d/mysql start
[05:01] <bob2> paladin2: oh, wait, you're using broken inkscape packages
[05:01] <carthik> synae sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[05:01] <bob2> paladin2: install the version from ubuntu
[05:01] <paladin2> Doh!
[05:01] <zefyrus> i'm using breezy
[05:01] <carthik> synae that will restart it
[05:02] <bimberi> ghost_: a meta-package related to lots of stuff (that makes up a good desktop)
[05:02] <paladin2> I got the apt-line from inkscape's site.
[05:02] <synae> it says /etc/init.d/mysql not found, i guess i didn't install it correctly. i'll go do that
[05:02] <synae> thanks everyone
[05:02] <ghost_> ok cause it pulls in for uninstall with cd/dvd creator
[05:02] <paladin2> So I should disable it?
[05:02] <bob2> paladin2: those packages are for sarge, not ubuntu hoary
[05:03] <paladin2> It complains about libc6
[05:03] <Roballegro> Rhanks guys!
[05:03] <Roballegro> Thanks guys!
[05:03] <bob2> paladin2: as the url says
[05:03] <bob2> ghost_: then read the package description
[05:03] <ghost_> lol ye
[05:03] <bob2> ghost_: that doesn't appear to be in ubuntu, anyway
[05:03] <DaTwo> right well i've got my hard drives now...  can someone tell me where to get the codec for mp3?
[05:03] <ghost_> im out of my mind today
[05:03] <bob2> DaTwo: read the FAQ
[05:03] <brenner> ghost_: you can safely remove ubuntu-desktop...iirc
[05:03] <bob2> DaTwo: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:03] <paladin2> Yeah.  I figured I'd give it a go - version .42 rather than .40
[05:04] <ghost_> thnx
[05:04] <zefyrus> bob2, any idea ?
[05:04] <brenner> ghost_: you do have to reinstall t if you're gonna upgrade to breezy tho
[05:04] <ghost_> k
[05:04] <carthik> what is the command to find the version of ubuntu installed -- someone mentioned it once and I have forgotten it since?
[05:05] <paladin2> Thanx bob2.  I guess I'm stuck with .40 until the packages are updated.
[05:05] <bimberi> bob2: that (wiki url) has got to be a keyboard shortcut (or faq-o-matic) :)
[05:05] <notnilC> can anyone tell me why mozill
[05:05] <paladin2> BTW, do I have to do a full re-install for breezy, or can I just apt-get dist-upgrade?
[05:05] <notnilC> oops
[05:05] <bob2> bimberi: sadly, no, I'm too lazy
[05:05] <nalioth> carthik: uname -a
[05:05] <bob2> paladin2: of course not, wiki/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[05:05] <bob2> zefyrus: make it setuid root...
[05:06] <carthik> nalioth, that does not tell me which version of ubuntu is installed (hoary/warty etc)
[05:06] <carthik> nalioth, there was a command... i forgot it.. dang ..
[05:06] <bimberi> bob2: :) - wish i could type that quickly
[05:06] <millennia> hello
[05:06] <millennia> hello!nice to meet you
[05:07] <zefyrus> bob2, you mean in xorg.com ?
[05:07] <carthik> millennia, hows everything?
[05:07] <paladin2> Sorry - just a question :/ I don't spend all day loking through wikis... :)
[05:07] <bimberi> carthik: cat /etc/issue
[05:07] <millennia> I am a chinese user
[05:07] <millennia> and you?
[05:07] <ThisGuy> What are some good Window Borders and Applications themes that everyone likes?
[05:07] <carthik> bimberi - yay!!
[05:08] <carthik> millennia, can we help you? I am extra-terrestrial
[05:08] <millennia> are you working now?
[05:08] <SymGeosis> ThisGuy, I love Red Hat's newest version of Bluecurve for a window border
[05:08] <carthik> millennia, just kidding...
[05:08] <millennia> :)
[05:08] <SymGeosis> Bah.
[05:09] <DaTwo> bob2: thanks! :D
[05:09] <carthik> DaTwo, so all set then?
[05:09] <millennia> how long have you used ubuntu?
[05:10] <millennia> I am a green hand
[05:11] <millennia> no body talk with me?I will quit
[05:11] <millennia> bye!
[05:11] <hondje> lol, that was dumb
[05:11] <SymGeosis> ...
[05:12] <steve___> good now he's gone
[05:12] <steve___> :)
[05:12] <stoeptegel> just curious to know, is there a command to show the latest edited files?
[05:12] <steve___> stoeptegel by you?
[05:12] <paulproteus> stoeptegel: Yes.
[05:12] <paulproteus> find -mtime 0
[05:13] <paladin2> Anyone else have problems with winetools not installing explorer?
[05:13] <paulproteus> "find" has magical powers.
[05:13] <paladin2> it hangs every time at fixme: richedit etc...
[05:13] <stoeptegel> groovie, hehe. Thank you!
[05:13] <SymGeosis> stoeptegel, I just use ls -tan
[05:13] <ghost_> k thnx all gtg
[05:13] <SymGeosis> stoeptegel, which kinda does what you're asking.
[05:14] <zefyrus> bob2, witch file do i must setuid ?
[05:15] <stoeptegel> SymGeosis: I'll experiment some around :-)
[05:15] <zdennis> anyone here ever rip 2 cds at the same time?
[05:15] <zdennis> is it wise to do?
[05:16] <zdennis> or does it just slwo everything way down
[05:16] <Cheetahfoot> how can i use windowmaker with gnome? how do you reset the default gnome window manager?
[05:16] <jo_e> zdennis, it's just slower
[05:16] <mik3> hi what's a popular wysiwyg html editor for ubuntu, i installed it a long time ago and forgot the name
[05:17] <bimberi> mik3: nvu?
[05:17] <mik3> that's it
[05:17] <mik3> thanks
[05:17] <mik3> =D
[05:17] <notnilC> is there anywhere i can set settings for a firewall in ubuntu?
[05:17] <SymGeosis> Cheetahfoot, killall meta-city
[05:17] <nalioth> mik3: quanta?
[05:17] <SymGeosis> Cheetahfoot, then start the window manager you want from xterm.
[05:17] <nalioth> notnilC: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[05:17] <SymGeosis> Cheetahfoot, then be sure to save your session when you quit gnome.
[05:17] <Cheetahfoot> ah ... okay. then, what, save session?
[05:17] <Cheetahfoot> SymGeosis: okay.
[05:17] <zdennis> jo_e overall slower? Would it be quicker to do 2 cds at once opposed to 1 cd?
[05:18] <zdennis> or should i just be patient
[05:18] <Cheetahfoot> SymGeosis: so then all i have to deal with is the panels ...
[05:18] <mik3> what does this mean
[05:18] <mik3> Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting.
[05:18] <SymGeosis> Cheetahfoot, theres a command for it, which I've seen listed on most sites but I don't remember it...
[05:18] <SymGeosis> Cheetahfoot, what about the panels?
[05:18] <zdennis> mik3, i think it means it can't find mozillas runtime directory =?
[05:18] <zdennis> =|
[05:18] <notnilC> thanks nalioth but that's my problem .. firefox won't let me look at most of the internet
[05:18] <bimberi> ... and that it exited :)
[05:19] <Cheetahfoot> well, when i kill all metacity, then start windowmaker the gnome panels upt op and on the bottom are still present ..
[05:19] <jo_e> zdennis, I suppose it would make a difference whether one was slave to another, or they were both slave , or both master
[05:19] <bimberi> mik3: what were you running?
[05:19] <SymGeosis> Cheetahfoot, then remove them by right clicking
[05:19] <jo_e> zdennis, if you assume that it's just half as slow, then at least you don't waste time switching cds around as much
[05:19] <xTina> notnilC: That should not be Ubuntu's fault. It does not restrict internet access by default.
[05:20] <notnilC> thanks xTina so it is most likely the firewall in my router then?
[05:20] <SymGeosis> Cheetahfoot, but if you want to do all of that, why use GNOME?
[05:21] <SymGeosis> Cheetahfoot, why not just use XFCE or Fluxbox?
[05:21] <xTina> notnilC: Could be. But I don't see why it should restrict outgoing http connections unless you turned on some child protection filter or something like that ...
[05:21] <notnilC> i haven't touched it since i ubuntu on .. i had the same problem with fedora .. but windows works perfectly
[05:22] <Jekamean> is anyone that there keyboard?
[05:22] <xTina> notnilC: On the same machine? (windows,that is)
[05:22] <notnilC> yep
[05:22] <xTina> notnilC: What error message do you get?
[05:22] <notnilC> connection refused
[05:22] <linlin> Hi, how can i use apt-get to install jre and jdk (jdk more important)
[05:22] <Jekamean> how good is ubuntu as a server? and how do i start ssh on my server machine?
[05:22] <Jekamean> i cant find a command anywhere
[05:23] <xTina> notnilC: Interesting ... what sites work, and what sites don't?
[05:23] <carthik> Jekamean, install openssh-server
[05:23] <carthik> Jekamean, then sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start (though it is started after installation)
[05:23] <notnilC> umm .. i haven't found a site that completely works .. all sites either don't work .. or only work to an extent
[05:23] <notnilC> i can't get on hotmail
[05:23] <notnilC> can't get on google
[05:24] <notnilC> can't even download java
[05:24] <xTina> linlin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:24] <notnilC> and can't get gaim to work at all
[05:25] <xTina> notnilC: So what _does_ work?
[05:25] <Jekamean> when you say install, i take it you dont mean $ install openssh-server
[05:25] <notnilC> xchat .. and the australian jobsearch website
[05:26] <carthik> Jekamean, $sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:26] <Jekamean> thanks, carthik
[05:26] <carthik> Jekamean, or $ gksudo synaptic &  --- and then browse after searching for ssh ?
[05:26] <benplaut> anyone know how to change the Xscreensaver Lock screen dialog in breezy?
[05:26] <carthik> notnilC, lol - jobsearch still works eh? What sort of network are you on?
[05:27] <uglysmurf> anyone here have their /home shared across machines?
[05:27] <notnilC> adsl
[05:27] <carthik> notnilC, do the sites work on some other os on the same machine - if you have tried it?
[05:27] <xTina> notnilC: google.com doesn't work right now?
[05:28] <ugo> does anyone have experience with openafs on hoary?
[05:28] <Jekamean> I get sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path
[05:28] <notnilC> xTina, nope .. google not working at all
[05:28] <xTina> and hotmail neither?
[05:28] <notnilC> carthik, yes .. everything works on the other machine runing winxp
[05:29] <notnilC> yep .. not working at all xTina
[05:29] <mkyb14> anyone here have a intall problem with initrd tools
[05:29] <xTina> notnilC: Try "telnet hotmail.com 80" in a Terminal, please.
[05:29] <carthik> notnilC, strange... sorry i never have run into anything like this
[05:29] <mkyb14> it says to check the log but how do i open the log?  bootstrap.log
[05:29] <mkyb14> vim, pico, nano don't work
[05:29] <xTina> notnilC: (without the ")
[05:29] <carthik> mkyb14, you can open it with a text editor
[05:30] <carthik> mkyb14, why doe they not work?
[05:30] <mkyb14> from the console? it didn't install completely
[05:30] <xTina> mkyb14: Check if your CD-ROM is error-free.
[05:30] <mkyb14> how
[05:30] <carthik> mkyb14, whats the error?
[05:30] <xTina> mkyb14: If you downloaded an ISO image, check the md5sum.
[05:30] <mik3> notnilC what kind of router?
[05:30] <mkyb14> i downloaded the 5.04
[05:30] <mkyb14> dunno how to do that
[05:30] <xTina> mkyb14: md5sum <isoimage>
[05:31] <PhoenixP3K> I scewed up my dual-boot install :( can someone help me out?!
[05:31] <notnilC> mik3, iConnect Access 621
[05:31] <mkyb14> on linux or windows
[05:31] <mkyb14> heh i'm in the console for error crap during the install of it
[05:31] <notnilC> xTina, it says "connected to hotmail.com"
[05:31] <PhoenixP3K> The Windows part is kindof dead
[05:31] <xTina> notnilC: Now type "GET /" please.
[05:31] <vermyndax> hey again all
[05:31] <mik3> notnilC : is that a broadband router?
[05:31] <vermyndax> can anyone recommend a good mail notification program that will sit in the systray or as a panel applet?
[05:31] <notnilC> mik3, yes
[05:31] <mik3> notnilC is there a reset button on it?
[05:32] <Jekamean> get /
[05:32] <PhoenixP3K> My guess is the location of Grub might be the bug
[05:32] <carthik> vermyndax, do you use evolution?
[05:32] <notnilC> xTina, "connection closed by foreign host"
[05:32] <vermyndax> carthik:
[05:32] <notnilC> mik3, that's been done twice .. makes no difference
[05:32] <mkyb14> ?
[05:32] <vermyndax> carthik: yes, evolution
[05:32] <mik3> notnilC i had a similar problem and i reset it with it's reset it button, thinking it held pseudo-function on the operations of the router, and it fixed my problems
[05:32] <xTina> notnilC: And some "Server: Microsoft ..... http://...." stuff?
[05:32] <mik3> or just go buy a linksys
[05:32] <carthik> vermyndax, use ogra's http://www.grawert.net/software/evonotify/
[05:32] <PhoenixP3K> Can you have GRUB on a HDD and make it boot windows that is on an other drive?
[05:32] <notnilC> nope
[05:32] <mik3> hmm
[05:32] <chiko_root> tengo problemas para instalar ubuntu
[05:32] <mik3> you're resolving hosts fine etc?
[05:33] <PhoenixP3K> notnilC, was this answer towards me?
[05:33] <notnilC> no PhoenixP3K sorry
[05:33] <mkyb14> what's the main diff between 5.04 and 5.10?
[05:33] <Jekamean> carthk, i get sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path
[05:33] <chiko_root> i have problem`s install to ubuntu
[05:33] <notnilC> xTina, that's all it said
[05:33] <nalioth> mkyb14: 6 months
[05:33] <mkyb14> intrid tools fails
[05:33] <mkyb14> on install
[05:33] <carthik> chiko_root, you will espanol speakers at #ubuntu-es
[05:33] <mkyb14> and it says to check to log and i can't open the f'n log lol
[05:34] <xTina> chiko_root: What kind of problems? (btw if you're more comfortable in spanish, there's also #ubuntu-es)
[05:34] <vermyndax> carthik: thanks!
[05:34] <Jeevan> how do you label mountpoints in ubuntu?
[05:34] <nalioth> !es
[05:34] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:34] <carthik> vermyndax, anytime
[05:34] <mkyb14> ?
[05:34] <vermyndax> could you help me figure out openoffice's java weirdness too?
[05:34] <chiko_root> ok
[05:34] <notnilC> xTina, that time is said the microsoft stuff
[05:34] <Jeevan> in the gnome open/save file dialog, I'm seeing all the mountpoints labeled as "20G Media"
[05:34] <xTina> notnilC: Your internet connection is perfectly fine then.
[05:34] <Jeevan> or 8G media, etc
[05:35] <Jekamean> how can i do dual monitors?
[05:35] <Parisi> Does anyone happens to have a Netgear WG311T wireless card?
[05:35] <mkyb14> ok i have the bootstrap.log uopen ... how do i know what is the error for initrd tools??????????
[05:35] <Kinhu> someone can help me?
[05:36] <nalioth> Kinhu: you need to ask something first
[05:36] <carthik> Kinhu, depends on your question
[05:36] <xTina> notnilC: Does Konqueror work?
[05:36] <xTina> Kinhu: just ask :)
[05:36] <notnilC> what's that?
[05:36] <xTina> Kinhu: (if it's related to Ubuntu)
[05:36] <notnilC> (im very new to linux)
[05:36] <Kinhu> Well, I instaled UBUNTU, how i config my screen res??
[05:36] <xTina> notnilC: another web browser, oh, but if you have a regular Ubuntu install you probably don't have it installed :(
[05:36] <Kinhu> it's set 1280X1024 and i want 1024x768
[05:36] <notnilC> nope .. only got firefox
[05:36] <Kinhu> sorry i'm a bit NOOB
[05:37] <carthik> Kinhu, do you know the refresh rate of your monitor?
[05:37] <xTina> notnilC: And you didn't change any settings?
[05:37] <notnilC> nope
[05:37] <vermyndax> wow gnomebaker is the bomb
[05:37] <Kinhu> i want to configura a PPPoe
[05:37] <Kinhu> for withc resolution?
[05:37] <carthik> Kinhu, the Hz part of the monitor specs?
[05:37] <Kinhu> cuz in 1280 something is wring
[05:37] <Kinhu> wtong*
[05:38] <smurfix> Kinhu: System => Preferences => Screen Resolution
[05:38] <Kinhu> wrong*
[05:38] <Kinhu> thanks
[05:38] <Kinhu> and for configuring a PPPoe conection on ubuntu?
[05:39] <xTina> notnilC: Ok, and you're sure your internet provider doesn't force you to use a proxy or something like that?
[05:39] <notnilC> xTina, yes
[05:39] <Kinhu> no
[05:39] <Kinhu> i use dynamic IP
[05:39] <xTina> notnilC: Are you using hoary or breezy?
[05:39] <nalioth> evening thoreauputic
[05:39] <thoreauputic> hi nalioth :)
[05:39] <ksmurf> is there a way to add "open Terminal" back to the right click menu in Gnome 2.12?
[05:40] <notnilC> xTina, hoary
[05:40] <xTina> ksmurf: apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[05:40] <mkyb14> how do i check the md5sum on windows to see if the image is complete
[05:40] <Kinhu> damn i'm using windows now
[05:40] <ksmurf> x-Tina thanks
[05:40] <nalioth> mkyb14: search www.freewarehome.com for an md5 application
[05:40] <Kinhu> can u make a summary of what i have to do?
[05:40] <Kinhu> i will try by myself
[05:40] <smurfix> Kinhu: "sudo pppoeconf" in a terminal should work
[05:41] <Kinhu> ok
[05:41] <Kinhu> thank
[05:41] <Kinhu> i 'll try
[05:41] <mkyb14> don't i have to compare the numbers to see if it's complete
[05:41] <xTina> mkyb14: There's plenty of windows tools if you google, I don't know what's good.
[05:41] <xTina> mkyb14: Yes, you will find the list of md5sums for all the Ubuntu ISOs on the same server where you downloaded it, in the same directory.
[05:42] <vermyndax> anyone here find gdesklets intrusive on cpu usage?
[05:42] <mkyb14> i got it from the http site on the main page
[05:42] <mkyb14> there are not md5sums
[05:43] <thoreauputic> added  !openterm factoid for Breezy right-click open terminal function
[05:43] <linlin> !dpkg ant
[05:43] <ubotu> linlin: Wish i knew
[05:43] <thoreauputic> !openterm
[05:43] <ubotu> hmm... openterm is to add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package
[05:43] <linlin> !ant
[05:43] <ubotu> linlin: I don't know
[05:44] <linlin> damn you
[05:44] <Jekamean> i want to use naim, is it apt-get naim ?
[05:44] <xTina> thoreauputic: damm, you were faster :P
[05:44] <thoreauputic> xTina: :)
[05:44] <mkyb14> ok ok ok i got the md5sum off the ftp site, and have the md5 sum from the cd .... to i have to compare all 40 lines of code to see if it matches????
[05:44] <benplaut> anyone know how to change the Xscreensaver Lock screen dialog in breezy?
[05:45] <xTina> benplaut: In what regard? Getting rid of the "fast user switching"?
[05:45] <benplaut> xTina, no... i just think the Hoary one looked prettier
[05:45] <xTina> mkyb14: No, just the one for the ISO you downloaded.
[05:45] <benplaut> basically, do you know what program/patch they use to get the dialog theme?
[05:47] <mkyb14> how do i check it??? i cd'd to the /cdrom dir and opened the md5sum.txt
[05:47] <xTina> mkyb14: There should be a number on the same line as the file name of the iso you downloaded.
[05:48] <xTina> mkyb14: run the md5sum program you downloaded on the iso, and compare it to that number.
[05:48] <mkyb14> how do i run that program in console?
[05:48] <mkyb14> i'm new to this
[05:48] <xTina> mkyb14: It's a windows program, so I'm clueless. Probably cd to the directory where you put it, and then just say whateveritscalled.exe
[05:49] <xTina> whateveryour.iso
[05:49] <mkyb14> oh so there is no way to do this in the console
[05:49] <mkyb14> during the failed install
[05:49] <xTina> mkyb14: no
[05:49] <xTina> mkyb14: unless the iso happens to be on a partition on the same system that you can access from the install
[05:50] <vermyndax> would anyone know why openoffice doesn't seem to find any of the Java RE's that are installed on this system?  They're all blank in the Java options screen
[05:50] <mkyb14> it's just a single hd with one partition from the install menu and the cdrom drive
[05:50] <xTina> vermyndax: You might want to set your JAVA_HOME/JAVA_PATH environments?
[05:50] <xTina> mkyb14: Then the image probably isn't on there?
[05:50] <vermyndax> xTina: hmmm... can you tell me how I'd go about doing that properly?
[05:50] <mkyb14> ok so i have ot put the cd in my windows machine one sec
[05:51] <xTina> You first need to figure out where your JRE is on your drive.
[05:51] <a-l-p-h-a> Anyone have issues with using azureus?  Do I need to play with iptables to get it to work?
[05:51] <ripgut> :(
[05:51] <ripgut> i cant get gnomad2 to work with my zen micro
[05:51] <nalioth> a-l-p-h-a: nope. just your router (if you have one)
[05:51] <ripgut> it only recognizes damn jukeboxes
[05:52] <vermyndax> xTina: I know where I put it, so that helps ;)
[05:52] <linlin> how do i add multiverse repos
[05:52] <a-l-p-h-a> nalioth, I've turned on uPNP, and also tried to forward the port... still no go. :(
[05:52] <Krazhier> hi guys quick question for ya guys I'm very new to ubuntu and linux  my question is, what do I have to put in the wep field if my router has security off and obviously no WEP key i'm running Dlink DWL G650 card and DI 624 router
[05:52] <mik3> Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting.
[05:52] <nalioth> a-l-p-h-a: your nickname is annoying, to quote another user in here, www.portforward.com
[05:52] <xTina> vermyndax:  Ok, so you simply do an export JAVA_HOME=/wherever/your/jdk.version/bin
[05:52] <xTina> vermyndax: and the same for JAVA_PATH
[05:53] <mik3> Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting. <---this happens when i try to run NVU, what's the problem?
[05:53] <xTina> vermyndax: and then start openoffice from that same Terminal
[05:53] <thoreauputic> linlin: easiest way is to add the word  multiverse on each universe line in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:53] <vermyndax> xTina: and that will stick across reboots?
[05:53] <xTina> vermyndax: If it works, we'll make it permanent :)
[05:53] <killapop> Krazhier: nothing - leave it blank
[05:53] <tjs> why would the kernel in breezy not be compiled with the version of gcc in breezy?
[05:53] <thoreauputic> linlin: with a space before it of course
[05:54] <Krazhier> must be something with the card it will stay as disconnected even though it finds a perfect signal allright thanks I'll keep searching forums for this specific card
[05:54] <vermyndax> xTina: okie, I'm on the java options screen... it's scanning busily...
[05:54] <a-l-p-h-a> nalioth, use nick complete... "a-"<tab>.  As for the port forwarding... does nothing.
[05:55] <rabbittv> hi all
[05:55] <rabbittv> im new to linux =)
[05:55] <ripgut> does anyone know if gnomad2 support zen micros?
[05:55] <vermyndax> xTina: nothing :(
[05:55] <nalioth> a<tab>-l-p-h-a its the unnatural "-" that is annoying (i do use tab)
[05:56] <xTina> vermyndax: Hm. Then I don't know either ... maybe OO has a cmd line switch or a config file where you can set it.
[05:56] <vermyndax> xTina: yeah that's what I was thinking... if I leave "use Java runtime environment" checked, it takes about 1 minute to load ooffice2
[05:56] <vermyndax> xTina: if I uncheck it, it loads in less than a second
[05:56] <vermyndax> xTina: so I thought maybe I'd point it to Sun Java to see if that loads any faster (it helped Moneydance work better)
[05:56] <xTina> vermyndax: yuk, that was the cause of yesterday's troubles?
[05:57] <vermyndax> xTina: yep, sure was
[05:57] <bendego> can anyone help me get a logitech quickcam  working in breezy?
[05:57] <mik3> Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting. <---this happens when i try to run NVU, what's the problem?
[05:57] <vermyndax> xTina: something about the java environment ooffice2 is trying to use isn't working too well
[05:57] <bendego> The camera shows up when I do "lsusb"
[05:57] <bz0b> yo guys
[05:57] <alexandros> good night, can someone help me? I am unable to get firefox to start. I asks for for a profile but the is that is the last I see of it. I tried to reinstall it but it did not work.
[05:57] <bendego> and the /dev/video devices are created when I modprobe the 'cpio" module
[05:57] <vermyndax> xTina: the weird thing is - I've heard people say that Base requires Java to work, but it seems to work fine for me without that box checked
[05:58] <bendego> but xawtv and gqcam just report "/dev/video: No such device
[05:58] <bendego> " when I try to run them
[05:58] <erick> does anyone know when i increase the resolution i have problems?
[05:58] <tjs> Anyone running vmware with breezy?
[05:59] <mkyb14> ok i did the md5sum in windows of the .iso img that i have but i have no md5sum on anysite to compare it to
[05:59] <bendego> alexandros: you might want to try deleting your firefox profile completely.  (rm -r ~/.mozilla)
[05:59] <tjs> I cant install it (vmware) because it says that the kernel was not compiled with the version of gcc that is in breezy (which seems odd)
[05:59] <bendego> often that fixes these quirky firefox problems
[05:59] <xTina> mkyb14: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/MD5SUMS
[06:00] <xTina> mkyb14: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/MD5SUMS
[06:00] <alexandros> ok, thank you I will try that
[06:00] <xTina> mkyb14:  depending on your release
[06:00] <mkyb14> xtina you are god
[06:00] <xTina> vermyndax: Do you have "java" or a JRE/JDK from Sun?
[06:00] <vermyndax> xTina: yes, I put it in /opt
[06:01] <mkyb14> ok xtina it's exactly the same
[06:01] <vermyndax> xTina: /opt/jre1.5.0_04
[06:01] <mkyb14> so why would it fail on install
[06:01] <mkyb14> of intrd tools
[06:01] <erick> How i increase my refresh rate  on the resolution 1152x768???NOw is 55Hz
[06:01] <xTina> mkyb14: 5.04 or 5.10?
[06:01] <_olaf> when i install the ubuntu base, how would i go about installing all the additional packages?
[06:01] <_olaf> what's the best way of doing that
[06:01] <mkyb14> 5.10
[06:01] <bz0b> when is 5.10 final release do?
[06:01] <alexandros> that did not work
[06:01] <vermyndax> o0h wow I just discovered I'm running at 60hz refresh rate
[06:01] <vermyndax> that explains a LOT
[06:02] <mik3> Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting. <---this happens when i try to run NVU, what's the problem?
[06:02] <thoreauputic> bz0b: october 13
[06:02] <ripgut> thats my b-day
[06:02] <bendego> alexandros: what happens when you run mozilla from the command line?  Do you get an error message?
[06:02] <xTina> mkyb14: Might just be broken on your machine for some reason, after all it's still beta. What architecture?
[06:02] <bz0b> thoreauputic, thanks
[06:02] <_olaf> after i install the unbuntu base, what's the best way to install all the extra packages (including x, etc.)?
[06:02] <bimberi> mik3: how did you install nvu?
[06:02] <mkyb14> amd 200+ processor so i'm guessing i386 .... that's the img i have
[06:03] <bz0b> thoreauputic, will it be the perfect OS, hehe :P
[06:03] <thoreauputic> _olaf: depends what you want
[06:03] <mkyb14> 2000+ *
[06:03] <_olaf> i want all of the extra packages
[06:03] <_olaf> just as they would be if i'd installed the whole thing in the first place
[06:03] <mkyb14> i'm downloadig 5.04 to try that
[06:03] <mkyb14> maybe it's just therelase?
[06:03] <thoreauputic> _olaf: a start would be x-window-system-core xterm <window mangaer you want>
[06:03] <erick> does anyone know ow i install Nvidia drives here?
[06:03] <_olaf> i mean
[06:03] <_olaf> do i just mount the cd
[06:03] <_olaf> and dpkg everything?
[06:04] <_olaf> or what?
[06:04] <vermyndax> xTina: sorry, I have to run help my wife for a few minutes - back in a bit
[06:04] <thoreauputic> _olaf: ah - install ubuntu-desktop
[06:04] <xTina> mkyb14: Good idea. If it turns out to be a problem with 5.10, maybe you can track it down.
[06:04] <_olaf> i'm not a debian guy
[06:04] <_olaf> that's all?
[06:04] <xTina> I gotta go get some sleep now.
[06:04] <mkyb14> k thanks for the help
[06:04] <thoreauputic> _olaf: you use apt
[06:04] <mkyb14> lates
[06:04] <bendego> alexandros: still there?
[06:04] <_olaf> "install ubuntu-desktop" will do it all?
[06:04] <alexandros> no before delete the profile like you said it was saying *** loading the extensions datasource. not their is no message the profile selector comes up and if you try to login using default it says that it is busy.
[06:04] <ripgut> how do i get gnomad2 to work with a creative zen micro guys
[06:04] <thoreauputic> _olaf: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that pulls the other deps in
[06:04] <_olaf> when i'm in like... logged into the base?
[06:04] <ripgut> please?
[06:05] <_olaf> oh, thanks
[06:05] <bendego> hmmm
[06:05] <thoreauputic> _olaf:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:05] <alexandros> bendego: yes I am here just took sometime to respond
[06:05] <bendego> ok it sounds like firefox is already running somewhere
[06:05] <_olaf> k, gotta write all this stuff down
[06:06] <bendego> if you have checked around and can't find any fireffox windows running already...
[06:06] <bendego> then type this: ps aux | grep firefox
[06:06] <alexandros> according to the system monitor there is no instance of fireofx running
[06:06] <thoreauputic> _olaf: why did you ened up with the base only? Did you do a server install ?
[06:06] <bendego> ok
[06:07] <thoreauputic> s/ened/end
[06:07] <erick> there is a way i can use my NTFS partitions here?
[06:07] <bendego> hmm strange
[06:07] <_olaf> thoreauputic: i have a really bad problem, the ubuntu install never works
[06:07] <ripgut> anyone?
[06:07] <alexandros> this is the response1000     10980  0.0  0.1   2948   576 pts/0    S+   00:07   0:00 grep firefox
[06:07] <thoreauputic> erick: ntfs is read-only
[06:07] <_olaf> it gets the base install and barely into the other packages
[06:08] <_olaf> goes black and doesn't work
[06:08] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[06:08] <ubotu> I heard doesn't work is something you should never say.  Be more specific.
[06:08] <_olaf> then i try to install all the extra packages with a half-ass install, and everything goes haywire
[06:08] <bendego> ok so firefox is not running..
[06:08] <winston_> helloooo world!
[06:08] <bendego> but it seems like there is some kind of lock file left around somewhere
[06:08] <thoreauputic> !tell erick about mountwindows
[06:09] <bendego> that makes firefox think it's still running
[06:09] <_olaf> it goes black, i reboot, it tries installing the rest, then goes into apt, i try to install the packages -- it works, but then nothing works -- X won't load it has all these authority warnings and crap
[06:09] <_olaf> among other things not working
[06:09] <bendego> did the ~/.mozilla get re-created when you tried running firefox?
[06:09] <_olaf> i'm hoping it will work if i install the base, then install the extra crap manually
[06:10] <thoreauputic> _olaf: ifit's an X problem, the command to reconfigure X is  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:11] <DjKritical> anyone know of an easy to use wav to mp3 encoder?
[06:11] <_olaf> is that like... the one that auto-detects my monitor/frequency and stuff? and then gives me the resolutions list?
[06:11] <mik3> any other wysiwyg html editors? my nvu is broke
[06:11] <alexandros> it was recreated
[06:11] <thoreauputic> _olaf: more or less, yes
[06:11] <bendego> OK delete it again completely
[06:11] <thoreauputic> _olaf: amongst other things
[06:12] <bendego> and check manually to make sure it is really gone
[06:12] <bendego> then try starting firefox again
[06:12] <bimberi> DjKritical: audacity (an audio editor) can do it
[06:12] <bendego> if you get the same "profile in use" message
[06:12] <bimberi> mik3: how did you install nvu?
[06:12] <bendego> choose the option to create a new profile
[06:12] <i-isym> hi guys can i ask someone a question i just started running linux whatnot
[06:12] <_olaf> thoreauputic, you've been very helpful -- compared to other people i've encountered here, thank you very much
[06:13] <thoreauputic> _olaf: you're welcome
[06:13] <i-isym> i installed quakeworld but i cant get it to run
[06:13] <dhart> Having problems getting Samba with Synaptic think I messed up my repositories file can some one send me original sources.list?
[06:13] <thoreauputic> _olaf: I guess you hit a bad moment in the channel - we usually try to be helpful
[06:13] <i-isym> i just wanna know how to execute an executable :D
[06:14] <mik3> bimberi `: apt-get install nvu, the same way i did it before
[06:14] <mik3> bimberi it used to wrok
[06:14] <mik3> i dunno what happened
[06:14] <thoreauputic> i-isym: you just type the name, usually
[06:14] <DjKritical> thanks bimberi !
[06:14] <thoreauputic> i-isym: what are you trying to do?
[06:14] <i-isym> well its Quakeworld
[06:15] <mik3> any other wysiwyg html editors? my nvu is broke
[06:15] <i-isym> the old QUake game what not i extracted all the files and i wanna run the game
[06:15] <i-isym> but it wont run it what so ever
[06:15] <thoreauputic> i-isym: ah well, I don't know that program and I guess you have instructions for it ?
[06:15] <i-isym> .glx files .x11 files .svga files
[06:15] <i-isym> well thing is i type it in but it wont execute it lol
[06:16] <i-isym> how can i log into as ROOT
[06:16] <i-isym> ?
[06:16] <alexandros> nope, I am getting  "*** loading the extensions datasource" continually
[06:16] <thoreauputic> i-isym: if you are in its directory try typing ./nameofexecutable
[06:17] <thoreauputic> i-isym: trust me, you don't want to run it as root
[06:17] <bimberi> mik3: try a fresh install -> sudo apt-get install --purge --reinstall nvu
[06:17] <stickyboot> ok, i have a noob question i need some help with
[06:17] <bimberi> DjKritical: yw :)
[06:18] <stickyboot> when i run the command " sh /home/bcomnes/Desktop/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7676-pkg1.run "  it tells me that i need to run it in root
[06:18] <i-isym> well i know what im runing
[06:18] <benplaut> anyone know how to change the Xscreensaver Lock screen dialog in breezy?
[06:18] <stickyboot> anyone think they can help me out?
[06:18] <alexandros> bendego: are you still there?
[06:18] <bendego> hi alexandros
[06:18] <thoreauputic> i-isym: erm - you don't even know how to run it though :P
[06:18] <bendego> just googling for that error message
[06:18] <bendego> I'm stumped, frankly
[06:19] <bendego> try re-installing the package
[06:19] <bendego> sudo apt-get --reinstall install ispell
[06:19] <bendego> oops.. change "ispell" to "firefox"
[06:19] <bimberi> stickyboot: put a sudo at the start of the command
[06:19] <thoreauputic> stickyboot: sudo sh blah blah
[06:19] <ThisGuy> Hey everyone.
[06:19] <i-isym> you said
[06:19] <i-isym> just type it in
[06:19] <stickyboot> just type sudo?
[06:19] <stickyboot> '
[06:19] <nfinitep1astik> stickyboot: along with the rest of the line
[06:19] <thoreauputic> i-isym: usually
[06:19] <stickyboot> ok
[06:19] <i-isym> thats what i've done even through the GUI mode ive tried itll say OPENING BLAH BLAH but never actually opens
[06:19] <bimberi> stickyboot: no, "sudo sh /....."
[06:20] <thoreauputic> i-isym: depends if its in your $PATH
[06:20] <thoreauputic> i-isym: if it isn't, you cd to the dir and run ./nameofexecutable
[06:20] <stickyboot> cool
[06:20] <stickyboot> so now its asking for my password
[06:20] <stickyboot> but i cant type anything
[06:20] <bimberi> stickyboot: yep
[06:21] <i-isym> ive tried that too
[06:21] <ThisGuy> What media player does everyone use to watch video with?  Right now I'm using Totem, but I was wondering what everyone else likes...
[06:21] <i-isym> heh
[06:21] <stickyboot> like nothing types out
[06:21] <bimberi> stickyboot: it doesn't echo
[06:21] <stickyboot> oh
[06:21] <uglysmurf> ThisGuy, i use totem, works fine for me
[06:21] <thoreauputic> i-isym: if you run it from a terminal you might get some useful error messages
[06:21] <stickyboot> there we go!
[06:21] <bimberi> stickyboot: ... in case someone's looking over your shoulder :)
[06:21] <stickyboot> thank you!
[06:21] <stickyboot> so sudo makes thing run as root
[06:21] <i-isym> im gonna try it again
[06:21] <stickyboot> ?
[06:21] <i-isym> but it dont work
[06:21] <i-isym> damn yo my head hurts
[06:22] <russ[] > werd
[06:22] <russ[] > eat a banana
[06:22] <russ[] > dawg
[06:22] <mik3> any other wysiwyg html editors? my nvu is broke
[06:22] <bendego> alexandros: one person found that this error was caused...
[06:22] <stickyboot> brb
[06:22] <bimberi> stickyboot: yes
[06:22] <bendego> by the libflash-mozplugin package
[06:22] <kinhu> How can i play a mp3 file here?
[06:22] <thoreauputic> i-isym: given that this isn't an ubuntu program, you might get better help in a channel that deals with quake problems
[06:22] <bendego> do you have that installed?
[06:22] <NoUse> !tell kinhu about mp3
[06:22] <thoreauputic> !tell kinhu about mp3
[06:23] <bimberi> mik3: did you try the reinstall?
[06:23] <kinhu> what i have to install to play an mo3 file here?
[06:23] <i-isym> ./glqwcl: error while loading shared libraries: libMesaGL.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:23] <thoreauputic> kinhu: ubotu just msg ed you an answer
[06:23] <ThisGuy> kinhu:  You should search for EasyUbuntu on the Ubuntu Forums...It will automatically install what you need.
[06:23] <russ[] > do you not have your video drivers installed?
[06:23] <ThisGuy> Works great!
[06:23] <WMCoolmon> i've been having problems recently with my ext3 filesystem mounting itself as read-only, i'm searching forums + google now but any assistance would be appreciated
[06:23] <i-isym> yeah i do
[06:24] <i-isym> ok man sorry bout it
[06:24] <i-isym> thanks for the help
[06:24] <Guram> Hi guys, I am trying to get 3d acceleration to work under Ubuntu with an ATI Radeon 9800xt.  I used synaptic to install fglrx and then rebooted.  After that i ran the command fglrxinfo to see if it would recognize my ATI card however i get this message instead-  Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:24] <Guram> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[06:24] <Guram> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[06:24] <Guram> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:24] <Guram> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[06:25] <nalioth> Guram: paste in #flood or a pastebin, please
[06:25] <Guram> sorry
[06:25] <Guram> can someone help me out though.
[06:25] <thoreauputic> Guram: please read the channel topic ( /topic )
[06:25] <mik3> any other wysiwyg html editors? my nvu is broke
[06:26] <Guram> I have documentation to instal ati binary drivers... this is what im having problems with
[06:26] <thoreauputic> Guram: did you read the binary drivers howto ?
[06:26] <thoreauputic> !ati
[06:26] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[06:26] <Guram> yes i have the window open right now... i folloed it step by step
[06:26] <thoreauputic> k
[06:27] <bendego> hey alexandros I've got to go now
[06:27] <Guram> Im using 5.10, but using the 5.04 instruction
[06:27] <bendego> but I but the flashplugin thing will be the problem
[06:27] <bendego> from a terminal you can remove that package...
[06:29] <alexandros> still getting the error
[06:29] <bendego> by typing: sudo apt-get remove libflash-mozplugin
[06:29] <Carpe_Libertatem> !themes
[06:29] <ubotu> I heard themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[06:29] <bendego> do you have the flash plugin installed?
[06:29] <alexandros> no
[06:29] <alexandros> this is a fresh install
[06:30] <bendego> oh
[06:30] <bendego> darn
[06:30] <z|bandito> what program are jpg files associated with by default?  and do they preview by default in nautilus?
[06:30] <alexandros> it was working at first but after rebooting it stopped working
[06:30] <bendego> so weird
[06:30] <nalioth> z|bandito: it depends on what you have installed
[06:30] <bendego> can you run the mozilla browser?
[06:31] <alexandros> bendego: thank you for your help
[06:31] <alexandros> that is not installed
[06:31] <crimsun> z|bandito: normally they're associated with "Eye of GNOME", or Applications> Graphics> Image Viewer
[06:31] <crimsun> z|bandito: and yes, Nautilus previews them
[06:31] <alexandros> I installed Epiphany and that is working
[06:31] <bendego> ok
[06:31] <crimsun> (I should note this is under Breezy)
[06:32] <alexandros> but it is not as good as firefox
[06:32] <bendego> yeah i agree
[06:32] <vermyndax> whew back
[06:32] <stickyboot> ok im back withh some more of my questions
[06:32] <alexandros> what I do a full uninstall for Synaptic?
[06:33] <alexandros> then reinstall
[06:33] <stickyboot> how do i stop x server?
[06:33] <bendego> yeah that sound like a good idea
[06:33] <eegor> Hey quick question.. i am pretty new to ubuntu and linux for that matter.  I was wondering if anyone could quickly tell me how to edit a file in text editor that is "owned" by the root?
[06:33] <alexandros> do you think thast will work?
[06:33] <crimsun> stickyboot: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[06:33] <bendego> make sure you upgrade all packages you possibly can too, with the latest versions
[06:33] <alexandros> ok, here goes nothing
[06:33] <stickyboot> k k
[06:33] <stickyboot> thanks
[06:33] <Quinthius> stickyboot: log out then hit ctrl-alt-f1 to go to console, login there and run /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:33] <bendego> I think firefox was upgraded twice today already
[06:33] <alexandros> ready done taht
[06:33] <alexandros> that
[06:33] <geyzer> eegor: sudo nano -w file
[06:34] <bendego> ok
[06:34] <bendego> well I gotta go
[06:34] <bendego> good luck alexandros
[06:34] <stickyboot> ill try crimsun's way first
[06:34] <alexandros> thanks
[06:34] <crimsun> stickyboot: (they do the same thing)
[06:34] <alexandros> bye
[06:34] <alexandros> thank you for all your help
[06:34] <Quinthius> stickyboot: i say logout and do it from console, or you're going to kill your current X session without giving apps a chance to close out gracefully
[06:35] <stickyboot> oh ok
[06:35] <stickyboot> but the problem is i dont know how to login through the console
[06:35] <stickyboot> :(
[06:35] <stickyboot> im that new
[06:35] <Quinthius> i just said how :P
[06:35] <stickyboot> oh
[06:35] <stickyboot> ok
[06:36] <stickyboot> i see
[06:36] <Quinthius> log out (you dont have to, but to make sure everything is all closed up), then ctrl-alt-f1 and login at the prompt
[06:36] <a-l-p-h-a> Anyone got azureus running?  I'm having issues with it connecting to anyone else, to start data transfers.  The port is forwarded.
[06:36] <benplaut> anyone know how to change the Xscreensaver Lock screen dialog in breezy?
[06:36] <thoreauputic> stickyboot: name <enter> pass <enter>
[06:36] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:36] <stickyboot> ok
[06:37] <michael> hi channel
[06:37] <thoreauputic> hi michael
[06:37] <michael> upgraded today
[06:38] <x_or> I cannot seem to get DNS to work properly.  I think it might be an outbound firewall.  I can ping the nameserver, but cannot get a  "dig" query to return properly.  Can anyone help me troubleshoot?  Can I use tcpdump to do this?
[06:38] <michael> all went well, but can't seem to do any admin stuff as user, like gdmsetup- it starts to launch but then goes away
[06:39] <candlelight> helo, I have something weird here, under console, if I enable caps lock, the key 'e' output is 'e', not 'E', any idea?
[06:39] <Stalwart> candlelight, in some keymaps capslock switches input languages
[06:39] <Stalwart> for example - in russian
[06:40] <jedi> what's the best way to prevent the pcspkr module loading on boot in breezy?
[06:40] <candlelight> hmm... I don't remember I chosen a diff keymap from std us...
[06:40] <candlelight> all keys are fine, except caps lock for 'e'
[06:41] <crimsun> jedi: append it to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[06:41] <jedi> thanks crimsun
[06:42] <Xenguy> !sudo
[06:42] <ubotu> sudo is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[06:42] <Quinthius> crimsun: does that apply to all modules btw?
[06:42] <candlelight> under keyb layout, mine is US English, but caps lock output for 'e' is 'e', not 'E', only under console, not gnome terminal, any idea?
[06:42] <crimsun> Quinthius: yes
[06:42] <Quinthius> crimsun: cool, good to know :D
[06:42] <michael> sudo doesn't work
[06:43] <Quinthius> michael: there was a post on the forums about someone having the same prob
[06:43] <michael> just returns a prompt- i have to su
[06:43] <michael> yeah- i saw that post- i'll go back and read up
[06:43] <Quinthius> michael: are you using a /home from a previous distro or ubuntu version? or having network probs at all?
[06:43] <a-l-p-h-a> what are the repositories I should be adding to my breezy installation?
[06:44] <michael> no network probs- no, i was forced to clean install and am mourning the strongest linux sys i've ever had
[06:44] <Quinthius> a-l-p-h-a: this is mine: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2122
[06:44] <thoreauputic> a-l-p-h-a: universe, and multiverse if you want "non-free" stuff
[06:45] <a-l-p-h-a> Quinthius, thoreauputic  thanks.
[06:45] <michael> so now everything is brand new again
[06:46] <Quinthius> michael: it may be some funky bug in the installer
[06:47] <Sonny_Wertzik> im compiling Mplayer with --enable gui and i have a problem...can someone help?
[06:47] <Quinthius> michael: that guy on the forums said he reinstalled fresh and everything worked fine
[06:47] <djrelay> what prob Sonny?
[06:47] <robotgeek> does anyone know how to disable trackpad while typing?
[06:48] <thoreauputic> Sonny_Wertzik: you are aware that you can install mplayer from the multiverse reposiory, right ?
[06:48] <Sonny_Wertzik> it will not install gui it says it need GTK devel packages but does not say which ones?
[06:48] <Sonny_Wertzik> yes i know about repository but this is new ver
[06:49] <djrelay> Anyone know why Synaptic Package Manager prompts for root passwd in Breezy Badger?
[06:49] <storm99> hi. can i install kubuntu over ubuntu?
[06:49] <nalioth> Sonny_Wertzik: then you need to scour the web for your 'new version supporting' gtk libs
[06:49] <djrelay> Nothing works
[06:49] <Quinthius> djrelay: it doesnt, it asks for your password
[06:49] <nalioth> storm99: yes you can, install "kubuntu-desktop"
[06:49] <thoreauputic> storm99:  sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:49] <djrelay> tried that too, Quinthius. No dice
[06:49] <nalioth> storm99: and it wont be 'over' ubuntu, it'll be another choice
[06:49] <djrelay> it asked for root
[06:50] <Sonny_Wertzik> you mean i hav to look for anything about what GTK packs to get?
[06:50] <djrelay> dang it... must've fat fingered...repeatedly
[06:50] <Quinthius> djrelay: have you fiddled around with sudoers or added a password for root?
[06:50] <djrelay> thanks Quin
[06:50] <Quinthius> hehe
[06:50] <thoreauputic> Sonny_Wertzik: sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer-586 or something like that might help you
[06:52] <andermic> I'm trying to compile my own software, but whenever I do "sh configure" I get an error about "cannot run C compile programs"
[06:52] <Sonny_Wertzik> i aint no sherlock holmes hehehehehehe
[06:52] <thoreauputic> andermic: install build-essential
[06:52] <andermic> yes, i have that
[06:52] <andermic> i just reinstalled it
[06:52] <Sonny_Wertzik> they can at least tell ya
[06:52] <andermic> and then i reinstalled it again
[06:52] <wickedpuppy> anyone knows how to unpack initrd with cpio ??
[06:52] <thoreauputic> andermic: usually you would run ./configure, not sh configure
[06:52] <Sonny_Wertzik> geesh
[06:53] <andermic> thoreauputic: you just made me realize the answer to my own question
[06:53] <andermic> the drive is mounted with the noexec flag i think
[06:54] <wickedpuppy> thoreauputic,  you know |?
[06:54] <thoreauputic> Sonny_Wertzik: apt-get build-dep <package> will install a lot of the dev packages you need
[06:54] <naxobyte> spanish??????
[06:54] <Quinthius> !es
[06:54] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:54] <nalioth> !es
[06:54] <thoreauputic> wickedpuppy: ?
[06:54] <naxobyte> ok
[06:54] <wickedpuppy> unpacking initrd with cpio
[06:54] <thoreauputic> wickedpuppy: you mean the "pipe" symbol ?
[06:54] <Sonny_Wertzik> i used auto apt
[06:55] <nalioth> we are a bunch of pavlovian trained users, aren't we?
[06:55] <wickedpuppy> pip ??
[06:55] <wickedpuppy> pipe ?
[06:55] <wickedpuppy> no cpio ...
[06:55] <oddball_> okay i have an odd problem... my sound card is being picked up and all, but i get no sound
[06:55] <oddball_> it a soundblaster audigy
[06:55] <Quinthius> wickedpuppy: | = pipe
[06:55] <wickedpuppy> oh boy
[06:56] <wickedpuppy> does anyone knows whats cpio and initrd ??
[06:56] <michael> oddball- have you done the "alsamixer" thing yet?
[06:56] <oddball_> anyone have a working sound blaster audigy 2 zs?
[06:56] <dazvid> me ^
[06:56] <oddball_> michael: yes
[06:56] <oddball_> dazvid: did it just work for you?
[06:57] <dazvid> oddball_: did you unmute the "Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack" ?
[06:57] <dazvid> no it didnt
[06:57] <michael> it should be muted, not unmuted
[06:57] <dazvid> oh, well whatever the opposite of default -_-
[06:58] <michael> i did like 5 things in a row, so i'm not sure what worked on my audigy
[06:58] <michael> but it works now
[06:58] <dazvid> The box above the analog/digital output should be green :)
[06:58] <dazvid> whether thats muted or unmuted, i dont know
[06:58] <oddball_> i dont see that at all
[06:59] <dazvid> You are in alsamixer ?
[06:59] <oddball_> yes
[06:59] <dazvid> its 33 across for me
[06:59] <oddball_> ah found it
[06:59] <oddball_> it off
[06:59] <dazvid> yup
[07:00] <dazvid> just press m
[07:00] <storm99> hi. again
[07:00] <kinhu> how i execut akron?
[07:00] <dazvid> And it should turn it on, and try sound
[07:00] <storm99> i have an live cd and i want to boot in 1280*1024 desktop. what can i do
[07:00] <oddball_> Victory!
[07:00] <oddball_> thanks dazvid
[07:01] <michael> good for you oddball- anyone else having sudo problems?
[07:02] <oddball_> okay now does anyone know the wiki page for playing dvds?
[07:02] <thoreauputic> !dvd
[07:02] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[07:02] <thoreauputic> hmm
[07:02] <dazvid> !hoary-extras
[07:02] <ubotu> hoary-extras is, like, see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[07:02] <oddball_> is hoary-extras better than getting it from nerim?
[07:03] <thoreauputic> oddball_: don't use nerim
[07:03] <oddball_> so that a yes then
[07:03] <thoreauputic> oddball_: it's Debian stuff by Marillat
[07:03] <oddball_> and ima kill my dear friend.  this is actually h is desktop.  and he set the fucking keymap to british
[07:06] <stickyboot> ok im back
[07:06] <stickyboot> i still havent gotten the x server to stop :(
[07:06] <Quinthius> stickyboot: what are you typing?
[07:07] <oddball_> stickyboot: sudo killall gdm  should do it
[07:07] <stickyboot> after logingn in usignthe console, i ran the command /ect/init.d/gdm stop
[07:07] <Quinthius> stickyboot: use sudo..
[07:07] <Quinthius> stickyboot: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:07] <stickyboot> i did use sudo
[07:07] <doonz> hey guys i kno there is a command to see that all devices are using dma any chance someone can refresh my memory
[07:07] <Quinthius> stickyboot: did you reboot or something?
[07:07] <stickyboot> i get a directory error saying it dost exist
[07:08] <thoreauputic> dooglus: hdparm
[07:08] <oddball_> doonz: hdparm
[07:08] <thoreauputic> sorry dooglus :)
[07:08] <stickyboot> ill try killall gdm
[07:08] <rosh> is it possible to use a partition as a home directory for two different distros running on the same machine?
[07:09] <stickyboot> brb
[07:09] <bimberi> stickyboot: did you type "ect" or "etc" (should be the latter)
[07:09] <russ[] > rosh, yah
[07:09] <stickyboot> oh
[07:09] <rosh> russ[] , the fstab line I used had the following parameters:  defaults 1 1
[07:09] <rosh> russ[] , is this correct?
[07:09] <thoreauputic> rosh: yes, but if they use different user id numbers things can get tricky
[07:09] <stickyboot> bimberi: i used the first woops
[07:09] <rosh> thoreauputic, ah, that is likely what is happening, can I manually set the user id number?
[07:09] <Quinthius> bimberi: damn, good thinking..
[07:10] <stickyboot> haha woops
[07:10] <stickyboot> ok brb
[07:10] <leila> hola, alguien que hable espaol???
[07:10] <doonz> hdparm just gives me a list of things but nothign that says howto list my devices
[07:10] <Quinthius> doonz: hdparm /dev/hda
[07:10] <Quinthius> doonz: or /dev/hdb or whatever your drives are
[07:10] <bimberi> !es
[07:10] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:10] <delaney> if i have my xorg.conf set to the correct resolutions.. and currently in gnome have sound working SUPER with everything.. will all those settings carry over to another windowmanager like XFCE if i install it as an alternative to Gnome?
[07:10] <thoreauputic> rosh: you can, yes - preferably on the non-debian style distro though ( like changing 501 to 1001 )
[07:11] <doonz> oh ok
[07:11] <thoreauputic> rosh: I'm not sure of the details though
[07:11] <rosh> thoreauputic, the uid is the field we are referring to, correct?
[07:11] <thoreauputic> rosh: yes
[07:12] <kinhu> ther is a way i can see my ntfs partitions?
[07:12] <rosh> thoreauputic, what is the problem with changing the uid in ubuntu
[07:12] <thoreauputic> rosh: the other issues is some distros put all users in the "users" group by default
[07:12] <Quinthius> is there any awy with apt to get a list of packages that aren't being depended upon by any other package? (to clear out unneeded libs and such)
[07:12] <k-0tik> anyone here have wine on ubuntu
[07:13] <k-0tik> ?
[07:13] <thoreauputic> rosh: not a problem - I guess either way could work if there are no conflicts
[07:13] <rosh> thoreauputic, can you give an example of a conflict?
[07:13] <jer_> can anyone tell me how many repo's ubuntu has?
[07:14] <thoreauputic> rosh: not off th etop of my head - but say you have a user foo with uid 503 and that uid is used by another distro for some purpose...
[07:14] <bimberi> Quinthius: have a look at deborphan
[07:14] <thoreauputic> rosh: just trying to cover possible issues
[07:15] <nalioth> !tell jer_ about sources
[07:15] <Quinthius> bimberi: thanks :D
[07:15] <rosh> thoreauputic, thank you, I appreciate your help, but I believe my setup is simple enough:  I only have two distros installed, and I am the only one that uses both
[07:16] <delaney> anyone care to give a yes or no?  if evrythings working fine soundwise.. will switching from gnome to xfce cause any problems with sound or will sound settings carry over ?
[07:16] <rosh> thoreauputic, I just started using ubuntu, trying it out and seeing if i like it, and want to be able to share my home folder from the other distro installed
[07:16] <thoreauputic> rosh: you might need to add your ubuntu user to the users group, IIRC
[07:16] <thoreauputic> rosh: depending on the conventions of your other distro
[07:16] <chavo> rosh, make sure you are in the same group in both distros and same uid
[07:17] <kemik> or chmod the folder
[07:18] <rosh> does ubuntu use the "users" group?
[07:18] <chavo> rosh yes
[07:18] <thoreauputic> rosh: also be aware of the user needing to be in the admin group for sudo privileges in ubuntu
[07:19] <bdt1805> I have a question... what kind of certification would i get if i were to get into programming?
[07:19] <bdt1805> Im brand new to it right now but i learn quick
[07:19] <nalioth> bdt1805: the padded cell kind?
[07:20] <thoreauputic> rosh: in ubuntu all files made by a user are user:user  not user:users ( eg peter:peter not peter:users )
[07:20] <bdt1805> haha thats a good one
[07:21] <paulproteus> bdt1805: Most people care for experience, not certifications.
[07:21] <paulproteus> This, of course, can be a problem.
[07:21] <bdt1805> Im just want to get some study guides or something, so i can learn how to program on my own time
[07:22] <dazvid> bdt1805: what programming language did you want to learn?
[07:22] <paulproteus> bdt1805: Have you read through "How to Think like a Computer Scientist in Python"?
[07:23] <bdt1805> Im wondering if yall have some book reccomendations for java or even C++
[07:23] <paulproteus> For Java, I'd first recommend "How to Think like a Computer Scientist in Java".
[07:23] <thoreauputic> back in a bit....
[07:23] <paulproteus> C++, probably the same book (I think there's a C++ version).
[07:23] <paulproteus> It's available online for no money.
[07:24] <bdt1805> pdf format?
[07:24] <crimsun> Bruce Eckel has incredible guides
[07:24] <paulproteus> bdt1805: Probably.  Google for it.  I know it's in HTML, at least.
[07:24] <paulproteus> bdt1805: That'll get you started.  Beyond the basics, though, I can't recommend anything.
[07:24] <crimsun> (granted, it's more important to realize there's no language that does everything well)
[07:24] <paulproteus> For now, I'm going to sleep.
[07:24] <paulproteus> Bye, y'all.
[07:24] <Answer> Hello World
[07:25] <bdt1805> thanks a lot Ill also do some more research myself
[07:25] <jediborger> hello I just installed ubuntu version 5.10 and can't get my microsft trackball to work, does anyone have any suggestions?
[07:25] <paulproteus> jediborger: It's worth mentioning that 5.10 isn't released yet.
[07:25] <paulproteus> 'Cause it's not October 2005 yet.
[07:25] <paulproteus> But I'm going to sleep, now.
[07:25] <nalioth> jediborger: wait until the official release date
[07:25] <Answer> jediborger: a logitech or compatible mouse is relatively low cost :)
[07:25] <nalioth> jediborger: breezy will be broken until oct 13
[07:26] <jediborger> yeah but I already have a microsoft mouse
[07:26] <jediborger> ok will it work on the previous version?
[07:26] <Quinthius> is it safe to uninstall pretty much any orphaned package as long as i know no manually installed programs needs it?
[07:26] <nalioth> jediborger: yes it will, but that involves a complete reinstall (not the *nix way)
[07:26] <nalioth> Quinthius: yes
[07:26] <jediborger> ok np for me thanks
[07:26] <stickyboot> ok back
[07:27] <nalioth> Quinthius: and if one of your local proggys DOES complain, well
[07:27] <stickyboot> so i had some sucess'
[07:27] <bdt1805> Ive had trouble with my printer with open office.org, but it works on the text editors, etc. could it be a bug in the 5.10 preview release?
[07:27] <stickyboot> the killall command seemed to work
[07:27] <Quinthius> and as long as i know the package itself isn't being used independently also, of course
[07:27] <CaiN_SA> ok so why the hell does my pc run : updatedb every morning ????
[07:27] <Answer> Quinthius: Risk vs. Reward analysis shows Risk of re-installing orphaned packages.
[07:27] <stickyboot> but now the installer is asking for the Gcc package
[07:27] <Quinthius> Answer: eh?
[07:27] <Zodiac> If I am on breezy, what repository can I get the DVD decoder package from?
[07:28] <nalioth> stickyboot: install "build-essential"
[07:28] <Answer> Quinthius: What is the reward for removing your orphaned packages?  The risk is obvious = you might have to reinstall them
[07:28] <Quinthius> Answer: the rewards is clearing out junk i dont need
[07:28] <stickyboot> Where do i get the gcc package?
[07:28] <Answer> Quinthius: It seems the pros and cons are in your favor
[07:28] <Answer> !gcc
[07:28] <ubotu> Answer: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:28] <stickyboot> oh ok
[07:29] <dazvid> stickyboot: just get it through synaptic
[07:29] <Zodiac> Anybody?
[07:29] <deFrysk> ubuntu should make a list of ofphaned packages wich are still on after dist-upgrade to breezy
[07:29] <stickyboot> nalioth: dod i do that through add aplications?
[07:30] <deFrysk> orphaned*
[07:30] <stickyboot> or do i dl something
[07:30] <Answer> stickyboot: apt-get install gcc
[07:30] <Answer> stickyboot: apt-get install gcc   will try to download and install gcc
[07:30] <nalioth> stickyboot: you do that with synaptic or aptitude or apt-get
[07:30] <Quinthius> deFrysk: deborphan doesnt list them?
[07:30] <adjacent> ok. ive been through the sound howto on the ubuntuguide, but sound is still a bit off... when gdm starts i hear the little drum roll, but when i log in i dont here the windchimes, etc... once logged into gnome xmms, etc wont play sound until i start esd from the command line... does this make sense?
[07:30] <nalioth> Answer: the answer is "build-essential"
[07:30] <nalioth> stickyboot: install "build-essential" with synaptic
[07:30] <TokenBad> anyone here know if xchat has an auto-get like in mirc?
[07:31] <stickyboot> where do i get synaptic? do i need to dl that or dose Ubuntu come withit
[07:31] <nalioth> !tell stickyboot about synaptic
[07:31] <nalioth> stickyboot: ubotu loves you, read his msg
[07:31] <deFrysk> Quinthius, never heard of that prog
[07:31] <Answer> System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package MAnager    $synaptic
[07:31] <Zodiac> Anyone know where I can get libdvdcss from if running on breezy?
[07:31] <Quinthius> deFrysk: i just grabbed it to clear out orphaned stuff, messing around with it now
[07:31] <stickyboot> ah, ok thanks!
[07:32] <deFrysk> Quinthius, gonna have a look
[07:32] <nalioth> what is the difference tween debfoster and deborphan?
[07:32] <Quinthius> does "apt-get remove --purge <package>" = the "complete removal" option in synaptic?
[07:32] <Quinthius> (or uninstall or whatever it is)
[07:32] <nalioth> Quinthius: yes
[07:33] <Answer> Question: What is the best VNC / Freenx / Vine remote desktop program?
[07:33] <jer_> thanks nalioth
[07:33] <dr_willis> Answer,  depends on your needs.. freenx is a different 'sort' of tool then vnc.. with different goals.
[07:34] <HrdwrBoB> Answer: freenx is very good but a total bitch
[07:34] <HrdwrBoB> it's libraries and the way it works is total crack
[07:34] <Answer> Goal: To view a remote desktop on very custom hardware... isn't vino easy?
[07:35] <dr_willis> i thought vino was a vnc-variant.
[07:35] <Juhaz> it is
[07:35] <spanglesontoast> does breezy come with support for ati drivers now?
[07:35] <HrdwrBoB> dr_willis: vino is VNC on for the current desktop
[07:35] <thewayofzen> anyone running xfce4.. apt-get install xfce4   just isnt working at all.
[07:35] <dr_willis> This package provides a VNC server that integrates with GNOME, allowing you to export your running desktop
[07:35] <kemik> spanglesontoast:  hoary does, so i gues breezy do too
[07:35] <dr_willis> :)
[07:35] <Juhaz> so, if you have the bandwidth, and can spare the hit on the server vino causes by polling, it's certainly the easiest solution
[07:35] <dr_willis> so vino is a 'specilized' vnc server.
[07:35] <spanglesontoast> well it's just last time I checked which was a month ago
[07:35] <Quinthius> spanglesontoast: it has ati drivers... but it can take a little work toget them to work.
[07:35] <spanglesontoast> it was still in testing
[07:36] <dr_willis> i recall using vini.. and it was.. sluggish.
[07:36] <benplaut> anyone know how to change the Xscreensaver Lock screen dialog in breezy?
[07:36] <spanglesontoast> ah
[07:36] <Answer> Question: I have ssh tunnels can I forward the X display?
[07:36] <kemik> spanglesontoast:  breezy isnt stable yet, to be reeleased 13oct
[07:37] <spanglesontoast> yea I know It's not like I'm gonna cry if a program don't work thou.
[07:37] <TokenBad> in xchat does anyone know how to have it auto receive files?
[07:37] <judgy> hey i know this probly sounds dumb but i downloaded ubuntu but now i don't know what to do with it as to how to burn it and install it
[07:37] <nalioth> spanglesontoast: you'll cry if your X doesnt work, i'd wager
[07:37] <spanglesontoast> yea lol
[07:37] <nalioth> TokenBad: not a good idea, but it is in one of the dropdown menus
[07:37] <judgy> could someone help me?
[07:37] <TokenBad> I tried to find it..but no luck yet..will keep looking
[07:37] <TokenBad> I only use it once in a while...
[07:38] <TokenBad> then turn it off
[07:38] <Quinthius> spanglesontoast: for ati drivers you might wanna check out the breezy development forum, there are a few threads there
[07:38] <spanglesontoast> got a url
[07:38] <spanglesontoast> ?
[07:38] <judgy> all i need to know is how to burn it
[07:38] <nalioths_dog> TokenBad, under "IRC" click "auto accept files"
[07:38] <TokenBad> there it is
[07:38] <deFrysk> judgy in nereo ?
[07:38] <TokenBad> yeah they can't make it like in options
[07:38] <Quinthius> spanglesontoast: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64234
[07:38] <jtan325> anyone here use breezy with nvidia?
[07:38] <TokenBad> like normal
[07:39] <spanglesontoast> ty mate.
[07:39] <Quinthius> spanglesontoast: that is for ati's new drivers, using the ones in synaptic you could prolly omit some of those steps
[07:39] <TokenBad> thanks nalioths_dog
[07:39] <judgy> do i just burn it like a data cd?
[07:39] <Quinthius> spanglesontoast: i gave a general summary of steps in post 24
[07:39] <jtan325> i just got breezy running, but i had to switch "nvidia" back to "nv" in my xorg.conf otherwise X crapped
[07:39] <nalioths_dog> TokenBad,  np
[07:39] <spanglesontoast> oh you mean recompiling from stratch you mean?
[07:39] <spanglesontoast> the fglrx?
[07:39] <jtan325> and doing the nvidia-glx-config enable doesn't seem to fix the problem
[07:39] <Quinthius> spanglesontoast: no compiling...
[07:40] <Quinthius> spanglesontoast: well, the fglrx module needs to get compiled, but that only takes a couple seconds
[07:40] <saik0> OK, so after compiling a kernel with the proper drivers for my ethernet card became eth0 and my wireless interface....dissapeared?
[07:40] <judgy> i just need to get it so i can do my comp programming homework
[07:40] <Quinthius> spanglesontoast: the rest of the drivers gets installed through a graphical installer
[07:40] <deFrysk> judgy, select the iso file and burn image
[07:40] <TokenBad> anyone every do the ubuntu cd's from the site?
[07:40] <spanglesontoast> yea i've done it before I may just wait till october then
[07:40] <deFrysk> judgy, not copy image , but burn image
[07:40] <Quinthius> spanglesontoast: but if you want to use the drivers in synaptic, you dont need to do that
[07:40] <jer_> yea
[07:40] <spanglesontoast> ah
[07:40] <judgy> should i make a bootable cd or data
[07:41] <jer_> the cd's come pretty quik
[07:41] <TokenBad> how fast?
[07:41] <Quinthius> spanglesontoast: i think for synaptic you just need to install xorg-driver-fglrx, libstdc++5, and copy over libdri.a from hoary
[07:41] <TokenBad> cause I did it
[07:41] <saik0> how do i tell hotplug i have a wireless interface, and i want it to be eth1?
[07:41] <TokenBad> and want to have an idea
[07:41] <spanglesontoast> ah
[07:41] <spanglesontoast> anyways mate I gotta play a bit of dod
[07:41] <spanglesontoast> ty for that info
[07:41] <judgy> and where is the iso file found at
[07:42] <deFrysk> judgy, what burnprog do u use
[07:42] <TokenBad> anyone know about SkyOS?
[07:42] <judgy> nero
[07:42] <TokenBad> I saw someone talking about it?
[07:42] <reval> if my current nvidia driver isn't working well, and I want to try a different one, are there others available that work with ubuntu?
[07:42] <deFrysk> did you download the ioso judgy ?
[07:43] <judgy> yeah and i burned it onto the cd
[07:43] <deFrysk> oh
[07:43] <Zodiac> What is the breezy backports url? can someone please help me?
[07:43] <Quinthius> Zodiac: i dont think there is one...
[07:43] <shik45> one sec
[07:44] <deFrysk> what do you want to know then judgy
[07:44] <Zodiac> uh oh
[07:44] <Quinthius> Zodiac: and for "extras" just use hoary-extras for now
[07:44] <deFrysk> !backports
[07:44] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[07:44] <judgy> well don't i just restart my computer when it is burned?
[07:44] <judgy> to get it to run?
[07:44] <Quinthius> Zodiac: i think breezy is still too new for backports :P
[07:44] <shik45> go to apt-get.org
[07:44] <shik45> tons of dom repo's
[07:45] <deFrysk> judgy, make your pc boot from cd
[07:45] <shik45> just search for the package u need
[07:45] <deFrysk> judgy, and install
[07:45] <thoreauputic> shik45: no - that's a recipe fro breaking ubuntu
[07:45] <shik45> and u can find repos
[07:45] <shik45> works fine on mine
[07:45] <benplaut> Zodiac, no backports for breezy! it's all new, anyway :P
[07:45] <TokenBad> jer_, how long about does it take for them to come?
[07:45] <shik45> no probs
[07:45] <benplaut> what'd ya need?
[07:45] <thoreauputic> shik45: please don't recommend 3rd part repos
[07:45] <shik45> why
[07:45] <judgy> how do i do that...i have the cd in...and restarted and it didn't really read it at all
[07:45] <shik45> i use em on my five Ubuntu machines
[07:45] <thoreauputic> shik45: because they can break things
[07:46] <shik45> all rine nice
[07:46] <Zodiac> So where can I get libdvdcss2?
[07:46] <shik45> so can anything'
[07:46] <shik45> my dog 2
[07:46] <deFrysk> judgy, here is a burn iso to cd howto , check if you did that correctly http://www.weethet.nl/english/cdrw_usingnero_iso.php
[07:46] <thoreauputic> shik45: we are here a lot and we see the results
[07:46] <shik45> prob just noobws
[07:46] <shik45> Ubuntu attracts noobs somehow
[07:46] <Quinthius> shik45: users who are new and dont know fully what they are doing shouldnt use 3rd party repos for security, stability and reliability reasons
[07:46] <shik45> fine i agree
[07:46] <Zodiac> that source threw an error
[07:46] <thoreauputic> shik45: yes it does - nothing wrong with that
[07:47] <shik45> it is good
[07:47] <luckyaba> what would cause a java irc client to say "couldn't resolve host"
[07:47] <shik45> i like it
[07:47] <shik45> Kanotix i think gives it a run
[07:47] <shik45> it has surpassed Mepis
[07:47] <shik45> still not good enough for poweruser
[07:47] <shik45> I use Gentooo
[07:47] <shik45> for thoose things
[07:48] <luckyaba> is there a search feature for finding channels?
[07:48] <nalioth> luckyaba: if the host is down, any network client won't resolve it
[07:48] <shik45> thoreauputic: what distros do u use
[07:48] <luckyaba> nalioth: i can't resolve any host
[07:48] <thoreauputic> shik45: I use ubuntu only now - I have used slackware, and debian
[07:49] <shik45> try Kanotix
[07:49] <shik45> quite fast
[07:49] <nalioth> luckyaba: can you browse? get email?
[07:49] <Quinthius> luckyaba: sounds like you dont have a valid (or any at all) dns server in /etc/hosts
[07:49] <shik45> i used some slack when i was noob
[07:49] <shik45> i learned hard way
[07:49] <shik45> compiled everything by hand
[07:49] <geyzer> is php5 available in ubuntu yet?
[07:50] <shik45> i reccomend noobs start hard
[07:50] <Quinthius> luckyaba: try going to system -> administration -> network and go to DNS tab, make sure some dns servers are set
[07:50] <deFrysk> shik45, enough about yourself , tell us about your kids ;p
[07:50] <shik45> haha
[07:50] <shik45> i am 15
[07:50] <Quinthius> shik45: a lot of people dont want to make using their computer into an extensive learning process or a chore
[07:50] <luckyaba> Quinthius: i can, i am trying to setup a java client on my website and it wont ressolve any hosts
[07:50] <shik45> not a huge process
[07:50] <luckyaba> nalioth: yes
[07:50] <shik45> i was using Linux in 4th grade
[07:50] <deFrysk> shik45, enough about yourself
[07:51] <nalioth> luckyaba: "on your website" not on your local box?
[07:51] <shik45> guys go to #mepis
[07:51] <thoreauputic> shik45: please make an effort to be on topic
[07:51] <deFrysk> shik45, hows your ma
[07:51] <shik45> good
[07:51] <shik45> put her on ubuntu
[07:51] <shik45> she loves it
[07:51] <luckyaba> nalioth: yeah its my local box
[07:51] <shik45> no spybot lol
[07:51] <deFrysk> shik45, geez
[07:51] <shik45> she loves Gnome
[07:51] <Quinthius> shik45: why would people in #ubuntu want to go to #mepis... people come here because they're using ubuntu, not mepis :P
[07:51] <nalioth> deFrysk: shik45: y'all take the bonding to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[07:51] <Ex-Cyber> I have a USB SD reader/writer that keeps showing up as read-only; what should I do to diagnose this?
[07:51] <pepsi> wats a good p2p app?
[07:51] <jtan325> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[07:51] <shik45> k
[07:51] <deFrysk> nalioth, no thanks
[07:51] <saik0> so, anyways....how about telling me how to make hotplug go 'oh look a wireless card, i think I'll call it eth1'
[07:51] <jtan325> using breezy
[07:52] <shik45> Limewire Free
[07:52] <jtan325> and got nvidia to work
[07:52] <nalioth> pepsi: we dont p2p in here
[07:52] <shik45> it is great and integrates nicely with KDE and Gnome
[07:52] <deFrysk> pepsi, try nicotine
[07:52] <Quinthius> are p2p networks still worth using? i remember when kazaa started going downhill and i havent used much since...
[07:52] <shik45> yes
[07:53] <nalioth> Quinthius: if you like multimegabyte files full of nothing
[07:53] <shik45> Torrenting is taking over though
[07:53] <Quinthius> nalioth: haha..... yeah :P
[07:53] <pepsi> nalioth, i dont think talking about p2p apps counts as "p2p"ing
[07:54] <shik45> hey guys did you hear about the guy from Linux Link Tech Show
[07:54] <shik45> he filmed his 8 year old
[07:54] <shik45> doing an ubuntu install
[07:54] <nalioth> pepsi: talking about non #ubuntu things for more than a sentence or two should be done in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:54] <shik45> by herslef
[07:54] <Quinthius> shik45: it's not exactly the most complicated install process :P
[07:54] <shik45> 8 year oldx
[07:54] <shik45> that is awesome
[07:54] <shik45> i was doing the same
[07:54] <shik45> but girl
[07:54] <shik45> not to be sexist
[07:55] <pepsi> nalioth, dont be gay
[07:55] <shik45> thank you
[07:55] <Jekamean> is there a list of the apt-get programs?
[07:55] <shik45> what do u mean Jekamean
[07:55] <Quinthius> Jekamean: synaptic?
[07:56] <thoreauputic> shik45: overuse of the enter key spams the channel - please write sentences
[07:56] <shik45> Synaptic is the best frontend for Apt if that is what u want
[07:56] <Jekamean> how do i get synaptic?
[07:56] <shik45> apt it
[07:56] <Quinthius> no
[07:56] <luckyaba> you hsould have it
[07:56] <thoreauputic> pepsi: don't talk to naliothe like that please
[07:56] <shik45> or dl it
[07:56] <Quinthius> system -> administration
[07:57] <pepsi> zzz
[07:57] <sypmer_08> hi!!!
[07:57] <kinhu> How can i make UBUNTU see my NTFS partition???
[07:57] <saik0> If you are runnign Hoary or Breezy you have it already, where Quinthius said
[07:57] <Jekamean> awesome, thanks quinthius!
[07:57] <nalioth> !tell kinhu about ntfs
[07:57] <kinhu> why?
[07:57] <nalioth> kinhu: read ubotu's msg to you
[07:57] <Jekamean> what html editor to you guys recomend?
[07:58] <Quinthius> Jekamean: i think bluefish and screem are both popular... then of course there's vi, gedit, emacs, etc.....
[07:58] <thoreauputic> !tell pepsi about conduct
[07:58] <pepsi> eat my ass
[07:59] <shik45> lol
[07:59] <Quinthius> bye bye :P
[07:59] <shik45> jese
[07:59] <nalioth> kinhu: b/c ubotu answered your question
[07:59] <shik45> thoreauputic: come an man he was just kidding
[08:00] <Quinthius> shik45: he was being inappropriate for this kind of channel
[08:00] <shik45> van a ser mas simpatico
[08:00] <shik45> be more compassionate
[08:01] <shik45> don't give the channel a bad rep for being too tight
[08:01] <aftertaf> discussions about stuff has a place elsewhere...
[08:01] <thoreauputic> shik45: it's only a +q
[08:01] <shik45> people wont ask questions here anymore
[08:01] <shik45> and be turned off Ubuntu
[08:01] <Quinthius> shik45: how about instead, dont give the channel a rep for being filled with potty-mouthed kids :P
[08:02] <shik45> ur not funny
[08:02] <[Chameleon] > actually, it's people like shik45 and pepsi that turn me off
[08:02] <thoreauputic> shik45: that's enough
[08:02] <macintoshr> i know someone who just put heaps of ubuntu cds in all the staff pigeonholes at my schoool :D
[08:02] <nalioth> the truth does hurt, sometimes
[08:02] <shik45> funny guy
[08:02] <[Chameleon] > ... that, or, to the Thunderdome!!
[08:03] <[Chameleon] > macintoshr: that's kewl
[08:03] <shik45> u guys give the distro a bad name
[08:03] <[Chameleon] > macintoshr: I hope they were live DVDs
[08:03] <thoreauputic> shik45: you are on thin ice too - please adjust your attitude
[08:03] <[Chameleon] > shik45: oh really? we are the ones cursing and encouraging p2p for the purpose of acquiring a warez copy of WINEX, eh?
[08:04] <nalioth> shik45: this is a help channel, not a general chat channel (for that, there's #ubuntu-offtopic)
[08:04] <[Chameleon] > hmm, I could have sworn that was you and a pepsi a bit, too
[08:04] <saik0> Ubuntu - Linux for Human Beings (mins potty mouthed kids) ::sniggers::
[08:04] <thoreauputic> guys, #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:04] <saik0> minus*
[08:04] <Jekamean> how do i set up a vnc server for another computer
[08:04] <shik45> it is point and click
[08:04] <shik45> set up a server on one comp
[08:05] <shik45> and clients on the comps u want to acess the server from
[08:05] <Jekamean> i've used vnc, just not sure where the server is located
[08:05] <Jekamean> and how to active ate it, all i see is the client
[08:06] <shik45> use Tight VNC
[08:06] <shik45> it has a server client and a VNC client
[08:06] <arkais> hi
[08:06] <geyzer> is php5 available in ubuntu yet (as an official package)
[08:06] <shik45> look it up geyzer
[08:06] <aftertaf> geyzer:  it is in breezy.
[08:06] <shik45> Jekamean: need more help?
[08:07] <Jekamean> oh, so ubuntu dosnt have a vnc server already?
[08:08] <[Chameleon] > Jekamean: vino is a user-mode VNC server
[08:08] <[Chameleon] > Jekamean: I believe it is installed by default
[08:08] <Baron_Grinnit> Um... I'm having a terrible time getting my linksys wireless pcmcia card working. Any suggestions?
[08:08] <Jekamean> awesome, i think my second monitor finally bit the dust
[08:08] <aftertaf> Jekamean:  if it isnt, you can get it just like in other debian basd distros, with synaptic/apt
[08:09] <Baron_Grinnit> Has anyone sucessfully used a wireless pcmcia card in Ubuntu?
[08:09] <[Chameleon] > Jekamean: bah, too bad you're so far away... I got a spare.
[08:09] <[Chameleon] > Baron_Grinnit: not yet
[08:09] <ChazZ> i haven't tried yet
[08:09] <Jekamean> it's cool, i have plenty laying around
[08:09] <adjacent> argh... im having problems... now i try to make something and i get configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH, but gcc-3.3-base is installed.
[08:10] <[Chameleon] > Baron_Grinnit: but, the card I'm trying to use requires ndiswrapper, which is another hurdle to cross.
[08:10] <shik45> i have
[08:10] <Baron_Grinnit> Yeah, I was kinda hoping that I wouldn't have to go that route.
[08:10] <adjacent> [Chameleon] : you might be better off getting a new card that doesnt use ndiswrapper unless your time is very cheap
[08:10] <shik45> on my laptop
[08:10] <Jekamean> stay away from the smb  cards, nothin but trouble over here
[08:10] <[Chameleon] > adjacent: very true... but it's not obvious to me which is a good choice. Have any suggestions?
[08:10] <zorba64> adjacent: have you sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:11] <Baron_Grinnit> Chameleon: Any suggestions on what card to get?
[08:11] <adjacent> [Chameleon] : seneo makes good cards, and anything orinoco works well. imho
[08:11] <[Chameleon] > Baron_Grinnit: hehe, well, don't get a Linksys. I can say that much.
[08:11] <adjacent> [Chameleon] : my orinoco gold is the best card ive had yet
[08:12] <[Chameleon] > adjacent: 802.11g?
[08:12] <Jekamean> i've heard orinoco gold is supported by alot of distro's out of box and is very easy to use
[08:12] <adjacent> zorba64: hmm. i had, but it was broken. fixed now, thanks
[08:12] <[Chameleon] > I've heard the same about orinoco
[08:12] <saik0> [Chameleon]  I've had nothing but good experiences with my ipw2200 card
[08:12] <adjacent> [Chameleon] : not g
[08:12] <jtan325> anyone here using breezy?
[08:12] <[Chameleon] > but, I've also heard that newer revisions are different under the hood and not yet supported
[08:12] <saik0> jtan325, I am
[08:12] <Jekamean> <---breezy user
[08:12] <aftertaf> jtan325:  loads.... but not me ;)
[08:12] <zorba64> adjacent: np
[08:12] <adjacent> saik0: some people seem to love that card, others hate it. ive used it with good results
[08:12] <jtan325> hehe i just got it working
[08:12] <[Chameleon] > adjacent: I need 802.11g
[08:12] <jtan325> freakin sweet
[08:13] <[Chameleon] > jtan325: I'm using Breezy
[08:13] <jtan325> i didn't run away when X didn't start like i did a few weeks ago
[08:13] <jtan325> anyway, i am having a minor problem with my mouse
[08:13] <zorba64> jtan325: kubuntu breezy
[08:13] <jtan325> it occassionally "pauses"
[08:13] <Baron_Grinnit> yeah
[08:13] <jtan325> and then is fine
[08:13] <[Chameleon] > jtan325: notice any CPU spike correlating with the pause?
[08:13] <mik3> holy drunk is all i have to say god damnit
[08:13] <Baron_Grinnit> Thanks for the help, dudes.
[08:13] <[Chameleon] > mik3: watch your language pls
[08:13] <zorba64> jtan325: yep - a bit "laggy"
[08:13] <Jekamean> in linux if i wanted to load a home dictory off another comptuer would it be like windows //compname/user/home
[08:13] <jtan325> yea exactly
[08:14] <jtan325> is that to be expected?
[08:14] <jtan325> or is there a way to fix?
[08:14] <mik3> cry babies
[08:14] <jtan325> [Chameleon] , should i just watch top or something?
[08:14] <[Chameleon] > jtan325: need to determine the application hogging the CPU at those intervals
[08:14] <[Chameleon] > jtan325: then you can proceed to determine what to do
[08:14] <saik0> Jekamean using SMB?
[08:14] <zorba64> jtan325: considering its state...better than its broken state a while back
[08:14] <Jekamean> smb?
[08:14] <jtan325> hehe yea this is great
[08:14] <jtan325> eclipse works too, which i really needed
[08:15] <[Chameleon] > Breezy is very nice.
[08:15] <jtan325> [Chameleon] , so should i just watch "top"
[08:15] <mik3> Ubuntu must be a christian distro
[08:15] <ChazZ> i couldn't get eclipse to connect to my gmail account
[08:15] <mik3> chocked full of HIB
[08:15] <mik3> HIV
[08:15] <mik3> sorry
[08:15] <mik3> drunk
[08:15] <mik3> etc
[08:15] <vbgunz> hello everyone
[08:15] <mik3> hello vbgunz
[08:15] <saik0> I recompiled my kernel to add support for my wired sk98lin card, and now my wireless ipw2200 is broken
[08:15] <jtan325> or should I figure out what program's hogging using some other mehtod?
[08:15] <kemik> !tell Jekamean about samb
[08:15] <kemik> !tell Jekamean about samba
[08:15] <[Chameleon] > jtan325: you could use top, or you could use the Gnome System Monitor
[08:16] <[Chameleon] > jtan325: whatever method you want
[08:16] <alexman> #ubuntu@irc.cl
[08:16] <pepsi> ahem
[08:16] <alexman> olaa
[08:16] <alexman> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[08:16] <jtan325> [Chameleon] , i've got system monitor running
[08:16] <jtan325> i'll see where the spikes happen
[08:16] <vbgunz> im on Breezy... my only gripe is update notice after update notice... I mean, In the last past two days I probably downloaded 300 plus updates and I don't even have backports enabled or nothing. Either Breezy is broken or these devs aint playing...
[08:17] <saik0> dmesg says ipw-2.3-boot.fw load failed: Reason -2
[08:17] <alexman> hi
[08:17] <crimsun> vbgunz: there are a lot of things being updated.
[08:17] <aftertaf> vbgunz:  upgrading now: 900+ packages & 550 mb :D
[08:17] <aftertaf> it not yet stable, makes sense.
[08:17] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: they aint playing
[08:17] <vbgunz> haha, thats nice
[08:18] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: there are a few issues... actually I have to write up two bugs I found... but for the most part, it's quite usable and nice
[08:18] <nalioth> vbgunz: you'll see major updates daily until the release date
[08:18] <Jekamean> kemik: I'm looking to do a "remote profile" thing where i can have all users on one comptuer and no matter what comptuer they are on it will pull there files/folder/programs off one comp
[08:18] <vbgunz> really... I use to think Windows update was cool but it never updated Firefox, Thunderbird or any of my other applications... Ubuntu does that and I like it...
[08:18] <Jekamean> kemik: so would i just set up the user and use \\compname\users\home as the home directory on each comp?
[08:18] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: excellent point.
[08:19] <vbgunz> oh one bug I found in Breezy on a dual boot with XP HOME is I keep getting two entries for HOME in the grub menu... anyone any experience with this?
[08:19] <kemik> Jekamean:  you'll need to setup NFS or SAMBA for that to work
[08:19] <mkyb14> anyone awake?
[08:19] <nalioth> mkyb14: why?
[08:20] <Jekamean> kemik: thanks
[08:20] <mkyb14> i can't get ubuntu to install
[08:20] <mkyb14> heh
[08:20] <mkyb14> correctly all the way that is
[08:20] <mkyb14> i'm at the console and it can't start the gui
[08:20] <vbgunz> I've gone to Admin > Boot and two entries pop up in the for Windows but no matter how many times I delete one and leave just one, another one shows up on the grub menu
[08:20] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: I've not experienced that.
[08:21] <aftertaf> mkyb14:  does it go through the text part of the install ok?
[08:21] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: hmm... are you prompted for your password when entering the Boot control panel?
[08:21] <vbgunz> man its bugging me, I was thinking about removing XP HOME completely from the grub in hopes it'll this time only leave one behind... Just afraid it might mess things up...
[08:21] <vbgunz> yes
[08:21] <rfranc4> hey guys new to linux andsomeone recommended ubuntu
[08:21] <shik45> kanotix
[08:21] <shik45> 2
[08:22] <mkyb14> yea, but then it says that some packages couldn't install correctly and then brought up some screen where i could update/download/install  but that crashed so i ctrl.alt.del to restart and now i'm at the console trying to get some form of gui
[08:22] <magloff> 13
[08:22] <kemik> rfranc4:  great choice ;)
[08:22] <rfranc4> how do I open the program to download the packages from the net I figured out how to add sources but cant figure out how to get packages
[08:22] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: I'm going to try to replicate your issue
[08:22] <vbgunz> both the XPs are TYPE=UNKNOWN and DEVICE=/dev/hda1... there always identical...
[08:23] <kemik> rfranc4:  synaptic (system>>administration>>synaptic package manager)
[08:23] <vbgunz> you know what, I am willing to try it and see what happens...
[08:23] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: type and device are similar on mine under normal circumstances and I think that is fine.
[08:23] <rfranc4> thx
[08:23] <vbgunz> I just ghosted my system and backed up my personal data
[08:23] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: wait a sec
[08:23] <aftertaf> rfranc4:  you might want to add some stuff to the repositories too.....
[08:23] <rfranc4> lol cant figure out how to whisper to you
[08:23] <aftertaf> !tell rfranc4 about synaptic
[08:23] <rejden> mornin
[08:23] <aftertaf> !tell rfranc4 about repos
[08:23] <vbgunz> sup Chameleon
[08:23] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: BTW, deleting those menu entries does not alter the contents of the partitions they refer to. It only modifies the boot menu options.
[08:24] <aftertaf> rfranc4:  check the links ubotu just gave you.
[08:24] <rfranc4> I found out how to add to repositories
[08:24] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: I'm trying to reproduce your issue. Please stand by.
[08:24] <rfranc4> from ubuntuguide.org
[08:24] <vbgunz> I understand...
[08:24] <aftertaf> rfranc4:  cool... you're on the right track then ;)
[08:24] <vbgunz> oh, ok, you on vmware xen server or something?
[08:24] <mkyb14> ?
[08:24] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: no, tweaking my live system. no big deal... I can fix it if it goes awry.
[08:24] <rfranc4> is the way to whisper to you just by clicking on your name or is their a shortcut
[08:24] <[Chameleon] > rfranc4: /msg or /query
[08:25] <vbgunz> cool!
[08:25] <[Chameleon] > rfranc4: however, please don't do either without prior permission from your target
[08:25] <[Chameleon] > rfranc4: whispering without prior permission is considered rude.
[08:25] <mkyb14> how do you load the gui desktop
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > mkyb14: it should load by default
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > mkyb14: are you not seeing the GUI login prompt?
[08:26] <mkyb14> no i'm at the console
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: you have discovered a bug. Would you like to file it or do you want me to?
[08:26] <mkyb14> yea, but then it says that some packages couldn't install correctly and then brought up some screen where i could update/download/install but that crashed so i ctrl.alt.del to restart and now i'm at the console trying to get some form of gui
[08:26] <vbgunz> I have a general question... I just installed another copy of Ubuntu onto my SONY NW-HD1 walkman. I did it because it basically has a 20G harddrive inside. *BUT* it's not bootable... I would like to take my Ubuntu with me and I hope I can make it possible. Does anyone know of a way to boot into that USB drive through perhaps the live/install cd/dvd?
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: actually, we must first find out if it's already entered.
[08:26] <vbgunz> you can file it
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: to avoid duplication.
[08:26] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: OK
[08:26] <vbgunz> how did you figure it out?
[08:27] <aftertaf> mkyb14:  did this happen during install, and since you havent got any further?
[08:27] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: I created a duplicate entry manually by editing /etc/grub/menu.lst and then attempted to delete it with the Boot control panel.
[08:27] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: it did not delete
[08:27] <aftertaf> if so, i'd check out your CD, maybe your hard drive too... what was the error exactly?
[08:27] <vbgunz> sweet, you are nice
[08:27] <vbgunz> know how to squash it ;)
[08:27] <meko> is there a nero version for ubuntu?
[08:28] <mkyb14> the install was complete i set up the pass words and now it said that it couldn't finish installing all of the packages because of some errors, and now i'm here trying to see if there's a way to get a gui up
[08:28] <AzMoo> meko, as in the cd burning tool?
[08:28] <[Chameleon] > meko: the nero for linux is old. try K3b.
[08:28] <adjacent> argh. no matter what i do esd will not auto start
[08:28] <rejden> [Chameleon] , cdrecord? :)
[08:28] <[Chameleon] > meko: it requires KDE libraries, but it's very, very close to Nero.
[08:28] <[Chameleon] > rejden: heh
[08:28] <meko> yes a burning tool
[08:28] <AzMoo> I don't mind gnomebaker
[08:28] <[Chameleon] > meko: K3b
[08:28] <meko> where can i get it ?
[08:28] <[Chameleon] > meko: eroaster is nice, too
[08:28] <adjacent> i have to start it from the command line to hear audio, and even then it only works in apps configured to use esd. no alsa at all, despite alsamixer working fine
[08:28] <[Chameleon] > meko: apt-get / synaptic
[08:29] <vbgunz> you know what I would love to see no joke... a type of Ubuntu that goes beyond live and install... A sort of Virtual Machine with read and write possibility... It is sort of why I am struggling to try and boot a non-bootable USB hard drive on the walkman... I really want to take my Ubuntu with me... Portability... Any tricks?
[08:29] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: I try. :)
[08:29] <aftertaf> mkyb14:  silly question, do you have it on the net, this ubuntu?
[08:29] <vbgunz> good job through Chameleon... Its nice to have that confirmed
[08:29] <mkyb14> yea
[08:30] <aftertaf> hehe... ok, run    sudo apt-setup.
[08:30] <aftertaf> if it runs, you want to choose some online repositories.
[08:30] <mkyb14> but when i try apt-get update or anything it says denied, try su - root and it says that my root password is not authenticated which i did... so i don't have root access
[08:30] <jtan325> [Chameleon] , i can't really seem to pinpoint the cause of the problem
[08:30] <rejden> mkyb14, use sudo
[08:30] <jtan325> it's really hard to detect because it's like for a second
[08:30] <jtan325> that the mouse just "lags"
[08:30] <Mr_E> Hey everyone
[08:30] <vbgunz> anyone know how to boot into a usb drive from the command line using the live/install cd/dvd?
[08:30] <jtan325> and then it's back normal
[08:30] <fredrik> Hi, I'm having problems with my internet connection at home, it loses contact. It's not stable.
[08:30] <jtan325> it occurs like once every 3 minutes i'd guess
[08:31] <rejden> so you have 2minutes left now
[08:31] <vbgunz> hello Mr_E
[08:31] <rejden> ;)
[08:31] <Mr_E> is there someone here who can give me some info on installing ubuntu
[08:31] <jtan325> lol
[08:31] <aftertaf> mkyb14:  sudo apt-setup will first let u choose online repositories
[08:31] <jtan325> it just happened
[08:31] <vbgunz> what you need?
[08:31] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/black-dog-usb-key-linux-server-116696.php
[08:31] <aftertaf> mkyb14:  then sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (i think)
[08:31] <jtan325> zorba64, did you have this mouse lag problem too?
[08:31] <aftertaf> jtan325:  when you ifconfig, do you still see your ppp0 ?
[08:32] <safe_mode> where can i get the SDL dev library
[08:32] <safe_mode> where can i get it?
[08:32] <safe_mode> er
[08:32] <safe_mode> yeh
[08:32] <Mr_E> hi vbgunz
[08:32] <safe_mode> that was redundant
[08:32] <aftertaf> lol safe_mode :)
[08:32] <crimsun> safe_mode: libsdl1.2-dev
[08:32] <Mr_E> vbgunz, kan u give me sone info on installing ubuntu?
[08:32] <safe_mode> crimsun, many thanks
[08:32] <mkyb14> ha it says it's a non-ubuntu cd when it is
[08:32] <mkyb14> wtf
[08:32] <vbgunz> that black dog is nice... I am telling you, I wish they had that for ubuntu... but without booting the host computer to get into it... sort of like stick it in and take over... that's the future of computing I tell you
[08:32] <Jekamean> Where would the vnc program be located?
[08:33] <vbgunz> what you need Mr_E
[08:33] <shik45> Mr_E: it is easy as pie
[08:33] <shik45> even this biggest retard can do it
[08:33] <jtan325> aftertaf, what?
[08:33] <aftertaf> mkyb14:  try disbling the cdrom as a repository in apt-setup first
[08:33] <mkyb14> it now asks for method for apt ... should i choos http
[08:33] <jtan325> pp0?
[08:33] <aftertaf> jtan325:  your net conneciton.
[08:33] <jtan325> ummm it works
[08:33] <jtan325> i have an ip
[08:33] <jtan325> eth0 looks fine....
[08:33] <Mr_E> vbgunz, i'm currently running off the live-CD & i want 2 know if i install it will it stuff with my existing windoes installations
[08:33] <aftertaf> jtan325:  you on pppoE ?
[08:34] <jtan325> sorry, what is pppoE?
[08:34] <rejden> Mr_E, no, instalation will detect win partition and it will be added into group
[08:34] <mkyb14> should i choose http for repository?
[08:34] <vbgunz> how i did it was a bit different than how some muight recommend
[08:34] <rejden> Mr_E, group/grub
[08:34] <aftertaf> jtan325:  never mind ;)... i have a pb too with internet cnn.
[08:34] <aftertaf> mkyb14:  yep
[08:34] <jtan325> oh...
[08:34] <jtan325> any ideas about this mouse lagging?
[08:34] <aftertaf> Mr_E:  but i dont think you can install from the live cd.
[08:34] <rejden> Mr_E, anyway, backuping your data is wise while messing with partitions
[08:34] <safe_mode> jtan325, what kind of interface?
[08:35] <mkyb14> says restricted packages and some long lines of that
[08:35] <Mr_E> so it'll just show up in the list of operating systems on boot.ini?
[08:35] <aftertaf> mkyb14:  ok.... PM
[08:35] <jtan325> safe_mode, what do you mean?
[08:35] <Malin> !locale
[08:35] <ubotu> Malin: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:35] <vbgunz> I ghosted my system and started clean... during windows setup, I simply left unallocated space for Ubuntu... but you can dual boot if you wish... I heard Ubuntu is good with figuring it out but I never installed Ubuntu alongside a fully partitioned windows disk...
[08:35] <Malin> !locales
[08:35] <ubotu> Malin: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:35] <jtan325> i am using fvwm for window manager...
[08:35] <Malin> :/
[08:35] <mkyb14> pm?
[08:35] <safe_mode> jtan325, is the mouse local, and if so, what port?
[08:35] <jtan325> ah
[08:35] <jtan325> no, it's a usb mouse
[08:35] <jtan325> i am on a laptop
[08:35] <safe_mode> :/
[08:35] <vbgunz> can you ghost or backup or install everything you need when you're done, it is worth it if not for at least the experience with a linux terminal ;)
[08:35] <safe_mode> does the touchpad/stick lag?
[08:35] <rejden> vbgunz, actually i did it few days ago and it doesn't need any "guru" technique
[08:35] <jtan325> i'll start using it now and see
[08:35] <jtan325> :-)
[08:36] <Mr_E> vbgunz, will it install on an existing ntfs partition?
[08:36] <vbgunz> nah, I didn't bother to much with figuring it although now I am creating partitions with the Ubuntu manager...
[08:36] <dhel> hello every one
[08:36] <vbgunz> no, doesn;'t like NTFs
[08:36] <safe_mode> jtan325, pm me or beep me, im busy so i won
[08:36] <safe_mode> won't notice you
[08:36] <oolon> hey dhel
[08:36] <safe_mode> if you don't that is
[08:36] <Mr_E> vbgunz, what about FAT?
[08:37] <dhel> hello oolon
[08:37] <vbgunz> yeah I believe Ubuntu likes fat
[08:37] <dhel> asl plz?
[08:37] <mkyb14> ok done
[08:37] <mkyb14> now what
[08:37] <vbgunz> do you have an empty partition you'd already like to use?
[08:37] <safe_mode> dear god now
[08:37] <safe_mode> no
[08:37] <oolon> asl?
[08:37] <safe_mode> no no
[08:37] <kemik> but FAT is a bad choice
[08:37] <Mr_E> vbgunz, ok ill just have 2 check if iv avtually got a FAT partition...
[08:37] <aftertaf> mkyb14:  ok... now sudo apt-get update
[08:37] <safe_mode> i did not see ASL in a linux help channel
[08:37] <Mr_E> vbgunz, nope :(
[08:37] <vbgunz> I mean do you have a d or e or f drive just sitting around waiting on some action?
[08:37] <dhel> 20m philippines
[08:37] <safe_mode> please tell me i didn't just see that
[08:37] <aftertaf> then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:37] <safe_mode> oh god
[08:37] <dhel> u? oolon?
[08:37] <safe_mode> i did
[08:38] <safe_mode> nooooo
[08:38] <kemik> heeheheehe
[08:38] <safe_mode> kemik, hold me, im scared
[08:38] <dhel> asl oolob?
[08:38] <kemik> ;)
[08:38] <dhel> asl oolon?
[08:38] <Mr_E> vbgunz, well i have a couple of spare hard drives sitting around but i dont have any spare plugs 2 put them in
[08:38] <kemik> dhel:  this is the wrong forum for those kind of questions
[08:38] <mkyb14> ok
[08:38] <oolon> dhel, whats asl?
[08:38] <dhel> y?
[08:38] <nalioth> dhel: take that into #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[08:38] <dhel> ok
[08:38] <dhel> sorry
[08:39] <shik45> dont take that dehl
[08:39] <dhel> ok
[08:39] <shik45> *dhel
[08:39] <dhel> wat?
[08:39] <safe_mode> oh wow
[08:39] <shik45> that is bullshit
[08:39] <safe_mode> this water thing is cool
[08:39] <nalioth> shik45: you've been warned
[08:39] <crimsun> shik45: mind the Code of Conduct, thanks.
[08:40] <rfranc4> how do I make my terminal show all files in current directory
[08:40] <rfranc4> ls only shows one
[08:40] <Mr_E> vbgunz, im not sure what my file systems are.  how do i check from ubuntu?
[08:40] <safe_mode> rfranc4, type "ls"
[08:40] <vbgunz> the reason why redoing my entire drive was easy for me Mr_E was because everyone should have both a ghost type program for imaging a disk and a backup program for safe guarding data... Its one of the reasons why I am trying to switch in a sense to Linux... I need something really stable, I hope this is it
[08:40] <Jekamean> How do i start vino
[08:41] <vbgunz> im still new but you can have a look in Nautilus I believe... Not sure if it will tell you though... I believe its in /etc/hd*
[08:41] <Jekamean> i type sudo vino server and it says command not found
[08:41] <vbgunz> it's /dev/hd* my bad
[08:41] <mkyb14>  /msg nickserv link <mkyb14> <mike14>
[08:41] <Mr_E> vbgunz, nautilus?
[08:41] <deFrysk> Mr_E, sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdwhatewveryourdisk is
[08:42] <vbgunz> hold up
[08:42] <vbgunz> one sec
[08:42] <vbgunz> im checking to see how to make this easy for you
[08:42] <Mr_E> i put that into the terminal right?
[08:42] <vbgunz> what are you on Breezy or Hoary?
[08:42] <deFrysk> Mr_E, yes
[08:42] <kemik> or just "sudo fdisk -l"
[08:42] <Mr_E> vbgunz, Hoary
[08:43] <kemik> dont specifiy partition, it'll go through them all anyway
[08:43] <mkyb14> after apt-get update now what
[08:43] <Jekamean> breezy
[08:43] <mkyb14> how do i get the gui up
[08:43] <Mr_E> deFrysk, thanks
[08:43] <odatubuntu> anyone know of a good place to look for linux games?
[08:43] <deFrysk> man this coffee is good and strong ! :)
[08:43] <aftertaf> mkyb14:  did it go through the installation of a lot of packages before the errors?
[08:43] <vbgunz> you can try kemik's method... I was thinking more along the lines of showing you through the GUI as I know how...
[08:43] <vbgunz> but try it
[08:43] <vbgunz> you know where the terminal is?
[08:43] <mkyb14> yes
[08:43] <aftertaf> ok.
[08:43] <nalioth> odatubuntu: in your synaptic under the "games" section
[08:43] <Jekamean> yes
[08:44] <topyli> odatubuntu: happypenguin.org at least
[08:44] <aftertaf> mkyb14:  try    sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:44] <vbgunz> yeah kemik is the man
[08:44] <odatubuntu> nalioth: yea i've been through there was looking for some nicer ones
[08:44] <vbgunz> do as he said, "sudo fdisk -l"
[08:44] <mkyb14> i did apt-get upgrade
[08:44] <mkyb14> it's doing alot of installing
[08:44] <nalioth> odatubuntu: ask uncle google where he keeps them
[08:45] <SlicerDicer-> what codec allows me to play avi files with mplayer?
[08:45] <Mr_E> vbgunz, yep i found it; both my drives are ntfs :(
[08:45] <nessmuk> I'm trying to get around hal errors when hoary install finishes online after initial cd install. Can you just upgrade Warty direct to Breezy, or do you have to upgrade from Hoary?
[08:45] <topyli> odatubuntu: many of the best games are in the repositories, but of course browsing synaptic won't give you much of an idea what each game is like
[08:45] <onkarshinde> mkyb14: You should have done apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:45] <odatubuntu> nalioth: surprising not much shows up
[08:45] <oolon> safe_mode, what was that all about with dhel?
[08:45] <nalioth> odatubuntu: really?
[08:45] <vbgunz> outside of your system drive what info do you have on the other?
[08:45] <mkyb14> hmm good to know
[08:45] <vbgunz> is it info you'd like to keep?
[08:45] <aftertaf> onkarshinde:  have you followed the problem he's having?
[08:45] <odatubuntu> nalitoth: nothing grade a anyway
[08:45] <topyli> odatubuntu: you should have hundreds of packages in the games section
[08:45] <safe_mode> oolon, they wanted to know your age sex and location, but i've nver seen that in a linux help channel before
[08:45] <deFrysk> mkyb14, you can do that after the upgrade
[08:46] <onkarshinde> aftertaf: Somewhat. Sorry if I am mistaken.
[08:46] <safe_mode> you see that alot in a teenager's chatroom
[08:46] <mkyb14> ok
[08:46] <vbgunz> if it isn't point to that partition when you get to it in the installer... If you have anything you'd like to keep ghost or backup now...
[08:46] <aftertaf> onkarshinde:  hehe no pbs... you are pbly right anyway ;)
[08:46] <Mr_E> vbgunz, um...  well its a 40GB disk & its got 8GB free.  mainly a whole lot of skool stuff & songs & probly a couple of DVDs waiting to be watched
[08:46] <jtan325> safe_mode, you there?
[08:46] <jtan325> i think i messaged you
[08:46] <oolon> safe_mode, oh dear lord! i didn't know what it meant i thought he mistyped something
[08:46] <jtan325> i'm an irc n00b, so forgive me
[08:46] <vbgunz> how much freespace do you have on the 32 leftover?
[08:46] <safe_mode> jtan325, yeah
[08:46] <[Chameleon] > safe_mode: hehe, I was about to start saying something like "ASL is an old type of DSL broadband." LOL
[08:46] <jtan325> but yea, the problem still occurs with my touchpad
[08:47] <Cryptid> I have installed aMule on my Ubuntu but when i click on it, it dosent open can ne 1 tell me what the problem is
[08:47] <XhyldazhK> hi all...
[08:47] <safe_mode> jtan325, thats strange
[08:47] <deFrysk> amule is a java app ?
[08:47] <XhyldazhK> hey... in which package it's located gl.h and glut.h in breezy latest?
[08:47] <deFrysk> or not ?
[08:47] <nessmuk> can you upgrade Warty to Breezy, or only from Hoary?
[08:47] <Mr_E> on the 40GB disk i hav 8GB free space
[08:47] <vbgunz> hey Chameleon, where is that grub configuration file outside the GUI? If I modify that, I will kill the bug?
[08:47] <Mr_E> at the very least i need 4GB of that
[08:48] <topyli> nessmuk: it's best to upgrade to hoary first
[08:48] <vbgunz> wow, think about data back up ;)
[08:48] <vbgunz> DVDs come in nice and handy... Do you have Ghost?
[08:48] <jtan325> safe_mode, any ideas? and if it was just the usb mouse having the problem, what would you recommend?
[08:48] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:48] <nessmuk> topyli....when hoary finishes the initial cd install, reboots and finishes online....I get these hal errors. Can I go to Breezy right after the initial cd install?
[08:48] <onkarshinde> jtan325: Which laptop?
[08:48] <Kuolio> Cryptid: try to start amule from commandline (terminal) by running "amule", and look if it says any error messages
[08:49] <vbgunz> thank you Chameleon!
[08:49] <Mr_E> vbgunz, yeah.  :(  i could probly use my lil bro's computer.  he's got about 60GB free soace & im sure he wouldnt mind just so long as i got rid of it fast enough
[08:49] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: you can delete the duplicate lines without causing damage to your system. It will fix your problem.
[08:49] <jtan325> onkarshinde, dell inspiron 8500
[08:49] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: yw, glad to help. call on me if you need more direct help with that operation.
[08:49] <topyli> nessmuk: sure
[08:49] <Mr_E> vbgunz, no i dont think iv got ghost
[08:49] <safe_mode> jtan325, if it was just usb, i'd say your system was under alot of load
[08:49] <vbgunz> Thanks!
[08:49] <Kuolio> nessmuk: would be easyest to just download breezy .iso and install clean
[08:49] <vbgunz> Mr_E, no ghost?
[08:49] <jtan325> and so that's to be expected then?
[08:49] <nessmuk> topy...thanks.Can you tell me the commands to lowlevel format the hd and block out bad sectors? Before the install?
[08:50] <vbgunz> true image or any imaging tools?
[08:50] <Kuolio> people have been having some troubles with "dist-upgrade", or so is the word on the forums..
[08:50] <Mr_E> vbgunz, well if ubuntu comes with ghost then iv got it but idk this is the 1st time iv ever run it
[08:50] <Cryptid> Kuolio, it says command not found
[08:50] <vbgunz> I backed up my 2.2G Ubuntu Partition with Ghost in under 6 minutes... Pretty cool for an image ;)
[08:50] <nalioth> Kuolio: not really, easiest would be use the network, followed by d/l the cd and using "apt cdrom"
[08:50] <topyli> nessmuk: listen to Kuolio. if you are doing a clean hoary install, you might as well install breezy instead
[08:50] <vbgunz> nah, Ghost is for Windows only I think
[08:51] <Mr_E> vbgunz, about how much space does ubuntu need?
[08:51] <vbgunz> I believe you can download a corporate trial for 30 days from symantec.com
[08:51] <vbgunz> bare minimum I believe is 2G
[08:51] <nessmuk> topy...does that mean an iso is available for Breezy?
[08:51] <Mr_E> vbgunz, yeah my brother used 2 have ghost.
[08:51] <vbgunz> 4 and you're good... Thats how I started out with Ubuntu on a Virtual Machine from vmware
[08:51] <deFrysk> nessmuk, breezy preview yes see topic
[08:51] <topyli> nessmuk: yes, there's a "preview"
[08:51] <nessmuk> topy...thnx
[08:51] <jtan325> anyone here use eclipse?
[08:52] <onkarshinde> jtan325: I use it but not on linux
[08:52] <jtan325> arg yea i use it in windows already
[08:53] <Mr_E> vbgunz, would there be a prog that would fiddle with partitions so that id be able 2 make a 4BG partition on my drive & leave the rest of the drive there?
[08:53] <vbgunz> Mr_E, can you burn the dvd home movies on your second partition? Put them on media? You can definitely use that second partition you have...
[08:53] <jtan325> one of my main reasons for upgrading to breezy was for the native eclipse 3.1
[08:53] <XhyldazhK> native eclipse????
[08:53] <jtan325> but i'd like to install some plugins
[08:53] <vbgunz> I believe Ubuntu can do it... I never tried it but heard many times it can be done
[08:53] <Cryptid> Please suggest some Good P2P applications for Ubuntu (not torrent Clients)
[08:53] <jtan325> and it requires writing to places like /usr/lib
[08:53] <jtan325> i'm just wondering, should i just "sudo eclipse"
[08:53] <jtan325> and then install
[08:53] <Mr_E> vbgunz, my other hard drive is an 80GB.  its got 4BG free space.  not enough to play around with DVDs :(
[08:54] <jtan325> or will that totally taint my non-sudo files
[08:54] <deFrysk> Cryptid, nicotine as i saig earlyer
[08:54] <deFrysk> said*
[08:54] <jtan325> and i'll have to go chmodding and chwonning stuff
[08:54] <Mr_E> *4GB free space - type
[08:54] <jtan325> so normal user can use it again
[08:54] <Mr_E> *typo  :S
[08:54] <vbgunz> wow dude you're an archive man ;)
[08:54] <onkarshinde> jtan325: I am not sure how is eclipse is installed on linux. On windows everything goes in same directory
[08:55] <onkarshinde> jtan325: I suppose sudo eclipse and then installing should work for all the users.
[08:55] <jtan325> yea
[08:55] <jtan325> but i am afraid that it uses the workspace
[08:55] <jtan325> that is non-sudo
[08:55] <draug_n> Mr_E: the best program for fidlling with partitions is Partition magic. But that costs money tho... *sure i paid for mine. lalalala ;)*
[08:55] <jtan325> in /home/jtan325
[08:55] <vbgunz> hard drive space is like real estate... it aint worth nothing when you aint got nothing ;)... Not to worry, you can simply use the live CD/DVD or get the cables for your DISK or make room by backing up to media
[08:55] <Mr_E> vbgunz, yeah i know.  my dad wants 2 store every single CD we have on tha hard disk.  that way when the CD stuff up we can just burn another one
[08:55] <saik0> eclipse as in the IDE?
[08:55] <jtan325> and sudo-ing might "taint" the perms on my files
[08:55] <jtan325> saik0, yes
[08:56] <Kytten> hi guys
[08:56] <vbgunz> Or buy a single 200GB HD and burn all your back ups onto that...
[08:56] <Mr_E> draug_n, there are ways to get around paying...  but lets not go into that...  lol
[08:56] <onkarshinde> jtan325: plugins don't get installed to workspace. So they will be installed to some place which is accessible to all.
[08:56] <aftertaf> got a PC here, and every time i try updating anything, with apt or synaptic, it just freezes... probably hardware right?
[08:56] <Kytten> can anybody helps me with my modem device
[08:56] <vbgunz> I believe there not that much
[08:56] <saik0> Hello, Kytten
[08:56] <aftertaf> Kytten:  ask your questyion, someone will answer ;)
[08:56] <nalioth> aftertaf: try it with the livecd
[08:56] <Kytten> i can't connect throgh ubuntu
[08:56] <Kytten> hi saik0
[08:56] <onkarshinde> Kytten: internal or external modem?
[08:57] <Mr_E> vbgunz, iv been toying with the idea of getting a 400GB disk & giving my lil sis my 40GB
[08:57] <Kytten> internal
[08:57] <topyli> jtan325: i thought the best way to install eclipse would be 'apt-get install eclipse-sdk'
[08:57] <aftertaf> nalioth:  ok. if it freezes then its hardware right?
[08:57] <onkarshinde> Kytten: Do you know which model?
[08:57] <Kytten> creative
[08:57] <jtan325> topyli, yes, i've gotten eclipse installed
[08:57] <nalioth> aftertaf: one would think so
[08:58] <topyli> jtan325: ok, sorry, i probably missed a part of your conversation
[08:58] <jtan325> i'm trying to install some plugins
[08:58] <onkarshinde> Kytten: Noramally linux distros doesn't contain modem drivers by default.
[08:58] <Mr_E> draug_n, so if i got partition magic it would be able 2 make me a 4GB partition without me having to format the whole disk?
[08:58] <Kytten> so what do i have to do
[08:58] <topyli> jtan325: the plugins are not packaged and apt-gettable?
[08:58] <vladuz976> gdm doesn't use .xsessions file?
[08:58] <jtan325> uhhhhh not really
[08:58] <vbgunz> that sounds good but remember, for some reason the more space you have the more reluctant you might be to make daily or bi-weekly backups... You might think all that space all is good. It can be stolen at any moment or blown away by something like Katrina or damaged, etc... get into backups and imaging... very cool way to respect your data ;)
[08:59] <jtan325> that would just populate the repos unnecessarily
[08:59] <onkarshinde> Kytten: Search for driver on creative's site.
[08:59] <topyli> jtan325: i don't think debian or ubuntu have ever worried about that :)
[08:59] <Kytten> ok
[08:59] <nalioth> vbgunz: pssst, all you really have to do is backup your home directory
[08:59] <Kytten> what for
[08:59] <vbgunz> sort of the reason I was completely ready to re-do my HD the second I fell in love with Ubuntu... in about 2 hours everything was perfect ;)
[08:59] <Mr_E> vbgunz, lol...  iv never backed up my data.
[08:59] <Kytten> driver for ubuntu
[08:59] <draug_n> Mr_E: yup:) later versions of PM (>=7 i think) even support linux ext2 :)
[09:00] <Kytten> then i can install it
[09:00] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: I've got 150GB for linux and 50GB for /home. I don't backup my Linux, just /home. Though, I should probably backup /etc since it's nice to have the system settings handy.
[09:00] <onkarshinde> Kytten: Driver for linux
[09:00] <vbgunz> nalioth we're talking Windows, you probably will never understand ;)
[09:00] <Kytten> i got my creative driver
[09:00] <Kytten> but it's just works for xp and microsoft stuff
[09:00] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: heheeh.. watch it, he's got OPs. :)
[09:00] <vbgunz> you neither Chameleon though I'll jot this down for later reference ;)
[09:00] <Mr_E> draug_n, thanks!  ill go have a look at it.  :D
[09:01] <onkarshinde> Kytten: If you are refering to the CD you got with modem, it most probably contains windows only driver. Still see if you can find anything on it?
[09:01] <vbgunz> just kidding... I just take my info seriously... I do not have the Linux idea of structure mapped out but my Windows data is backed up as of a few hours ago ;)
[09:01] <vbgunz> have too...
[09:01] <draug_n> Kytten: try http://linmodems.org/ for some pointers:)
[09:01] <Kytten> onkarshinde : nothing for ubuntu in it
[09:01] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: I understand perfectly.
[09:01] <Kytten> i tried manytimes
[09:02] <draug_n> Kytten: du you know the chipset (try lspci in a terminal)?
[09:02] <Mr_E> draug_n, is that symantec partition magic?
[09:02] <onkarshinde> Kytten: I suppose there isn't any creative driver available. There is high probability that your modem is based on some third party chipset. If you can find out which then it is easy to find driver.
[09:03] <pef> hello
[09:03] <vbgunz> sort of why I wish to switch to Linux... Windows XP is rock solid, stable and enjoyable... I just have this problem where for no apparent reason Windows will not boot... I am telling you I am paranoid of restarting Windows... I might never see my data... I mean I have to boot off a live cd to recover, it's slow... im tired of that
[09:03] <Jekamean> when i connect to my vnc server my client shows me RFB 003.007 and that is it
[09:03] <Jekamean> i searched google and cant find anything
[09:04] <onkarshinde> vbgunz: Windows may be enjoyable. But I disagree that it is rock solid & stable.
[09:04] <vbgunz> Woah, relax with Partition Magic... im telling Mr_E if you use that you have better had made a backup first... On rare occasions on more than enough blue moons, that PM can blow your data up!
[09:04] <Kytten> onkarshinde : what do u advise me to do
[09:05] <saik0> In the past Partition Magic has worked about 2 out of 10 tiomes without destroying and/or corrupting data
[09:05] <vbgunz> Im sorry, I didn't mean rock solid... more like cotton candy... seriously better than anything before it, honest... I had it for over 4 years and it only froze about maybe 10 times or less...
[09:05] <Mr_E> vbgunz, thnx.  ill make sure i back everything up 1st
[09:05] <saik0> for me..
[09:05] <onkarshinde> Kytten: There are some scripts available on net that can identify your chipset of modem. Search for them. Then search for the driver according to chippset.
[09:05] <vbgunz> I had a few blue screens but nothing serious... I sort of pushed it
[09:06] <draug_n> well, i have never had too much problems w/ partition magic... but it helps to have _some_ idea of what youre doing there ^_^
[09:06] <Cryptid> Nicotine is Good any other Nice P2P applications
[09:06] <onkarshinde> vbgunz: Oh. I miss those blue screens and sudden crashes in Ubuntu.
[09:06] <Kytten> can u give me the site for those scripts
[09:06] <vbgunz> Mr_E please do so, you telling me you have school stuff and things you want to keep... make sure do that
[09:06] <Mr_E> draug_n, any ideas on where 2 DL PM from?
[09:07] <saik0> Kytten, it would be a good idea to look on the ubuntu forums as well. http://www.ubuntuforums.org
[09:07] <ompaul> onkarshinde, perhaps you should install the BSOD screensaver, it will help you feel at home :)
[09:07] <GworldFlavaH> ei hei
[09:08] <vbgunz> actually in Hoary about two weeks ago, I had two completely non responsive experiences... No blue screen but a deep freeze... nothing was responsive... I couldn't believe it but decided to stick with it
[09:08] <Kytten> ty Ssaik0
[09:08] <Mr_E> vbgunz, i will.  :D  tha main problem as i c it is the 5GB of songs iv got 2 transfer over a 6mb/s network
[09:08] <vbgunz> I sort of have faith in Ubuntu... It looks good, it's fast and it has some apps out the box... I really love the fact that everything get's updated which beats Windows hands down...
[09:08] <onkarshinde> Kytten: Doenload this script. Uncompress it & run it. http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/scanModem.gz
[09:09] <Mr_E> 22.8MB NOOOO!!!
[09:10] <vbgunz> do it before you go to bed... On Windows, Make a copy if you're going right to bed... reason why is because if you move the files and wake in the morning they might not have moved. Instead you'll be looking at a prompt stating "really want to move this... yack"... then you say yes and realize your movement just begun
[09:10] <Kytten> ok onkarshinde after that what that script do
[09:10] <onkarshinde> vbgunz: In windows also everything gets updated. Just that you have to wait for 1-2 yeras in which time you will probably be using 2nd/3rd consecutive release of Ubuntu.
[09:10] <vbgunz> trust me, copy it over to the new drive then delete it if all goes well
[09:10] <Madeye> guys, any good idea to install/run IE standalone ? I need to run more than one version of IE for web development
[09:10] <ohphracku> i need more speed! so thinking about replacing metacity with openbox. anyone here done that?
[09:10] <aftertaf> Madeye:  IE?
[09:10] <fluffybunny_> I log in to gnome, but I want to try kde, so i have installed it - how do I run it?
[09:10] <onkarshinde> Kytten: It will tell you the chipset of your modem.
[09:11] <Kytten> :)
[09:11] <aftertaf> Madeye:  you can use it with wine, check out the firefox IEView plugin for an install guide
[09:11] <Madeye> aftertaf, Internet explorer
[09:11] <Kytten> that's wonderful
[09:11] <net> hi
[09:11] <aftertaf> fluffybunny_:  install kde:   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:11] <Kytten> i am really looking forward to connect to net throgh ubuntu
[09:11] <net> wazz up!!!
[09:11] <fluffybunny_> aftertaf: i have already installed it - how do I run it?
[09:12] <aftertaf> fluffybunny_:  oops.... you should be able to specify it at login with gdm
[09:12] <net> hi
[09:12] <onkarshinde> net: Roof. What about you?
[09:12] <fluffybunny_> aftertaf: cool, thanks
[09:12] <aftertaf> fluffybunny_:  choose session > KDE / GNOME / failsafe etc...
[09:12] <fluffybunny_> aftertaf: excellent.... thanks
[09:13] <aftertaf> onkarshinde:  funny ;)
[09:13] <Kytten> last question onkarshinde
[09:13] <Kytten> once that program detect my chipset
[09:13] <onkarshinde> Go on.
[09:13] <Kytten> what should i do next
[09:14] <onkarshinde> Kytten: You should then probably look into this site http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[09:14] <Kytten> they i should download something from there
[09:14] <Kytten> like driver
[09:14] <saik0> Adding the sk98lin ethernet drivers into the kernel source and recompiling it with support enabled as a module fixed my wired card, and broke my ipw2200  wireless card (which was previosly on eth0)
[09:14] <onkarshinde> Yes. Hope fully you will get the driver pre compiled or in source format.
[09:15] <onkarshinde> Kytten: Going for lunch. Will get back in some time.
[09:16] <vbgunz> brb, good luck Mr_E
[09:16] <saik0> http://pastebin.com/363284 is what dmesg gives me
[09:17] <Kytten> saik0 once i download find my driver i should saved it to a floppy then add it on my ubuntu
[09:17] <Kytten> -find
[09:18] <saik0> Kytten, I'm afraid i cant help you much. All i know about ppp in linux is that I hate doing ppp in linux
[09:18] <draug_n> kytten: yup. might also want to add any installation instrictions you find on that site to the floppy
[09:19] <draug_n> it's been a while (~4 yrs) but i did get a winmodem to work in slack once :)
[09:21] <Kytten> ok good
[09:21] <snausages> i updated my sources list to breezy and would like to *ONLY* install the new version of gaim. do i just do sudo apt-get install gaim?
[09:22] <bob2> that's not really possible
[09:22] <bob2> or feasible
[09:22] <rigel> noob alert. i just installed kubuntu, and i installed a new ide hd, which was recognized by the bios but not by ubuntu
[09:22] <zorba64> snausages: is asking for trouble
[09:22] <rigel> is there a way i can force it to scan for new hw or something?
[09:22] <bob2> rigel: it recognised it just fine
[09:23] <snausages> well, i was told to do that if i wanted to get gaim 1.5
[09:23] <bob2> rigel: it just hasn't mounted it anyway
[09:23] <bob2> er, anywhere
[09:23] <rigel> well its not in /etc/fstab
[09:23] <bob2> rigel: www.ubuntuguide.org should explain how to mount it
[09:23] <bob2> rigel: right, it doesn't magically appear there
[09:23] <zorba64> snausages: you will get it, plus some other troubles you might not want
[09:23] <ThePyromaniac> Hey, anyone know a menu editor better than smeg?
[09:23] <snausages> zorba64, alright then... whats the right way of doing it?
[09:23] <aftertaf> snausages:  its a way of having gaim, but you'd be better going breezy OR waiting for stable breezy
[09:24] <ThePyromaniac> it wont delete submenu's, and it doesnt update the trees
[09:24] <zorba64> snausages: put up with the older one, download the source code and build it yourself
[09:24] <ThePyromaniac> is there a command line way to edit the menu?
[09:24] <bob2> that's another bad solution
[09:24] <snausages> zorba64, i tried that.. without luck. heh
[09:24] <rigel> bob2: what am i looking for
[09:24] <bob2> if you really need a newer gaim, just upgrade to breezy
[09:25] <dazvid> bob2: whats the newer gaim got to offer?
[09:25] <snausages> bob2, id rather not
[09:25] <zorba64> bob2: thats a better solution?
[09:25] <bob2> dazvid: I have no idea
[09:25] <Madpilot> bob2: I'm surprised to see you recommending ubuntuguide.org - is the wiki help on mounting new HDs that bad?
[09:25] <saik0> or use backports...while it's a bad idea it's at least not as bad as adding breey repos
[09:25] <dazvid> ok
[09:25] <vbgunz> yup yup back in black B|
[09:25] <bob2> zorba64: it is if breezy is releasing in 2 weeks
[09:25] <bob2> Madpilot: probably, but I don't know the URL off-hand
[09:26] <topyli> dazvid: a brand new version number! you can tell your friends you have a brand new gaim :)
[09:26] <bob2> snausages: what does 1.5 have that you want so badly?
[09:26] <dazvid> lol
[09:26] <bob2> saik0: using backports at this point is silly
[09:26] <bob2> unless they've been very very careful to make sure breezy upgrades go safely
[09:26] <Yoshiki>   ?;)
[09:26] <vbgunz> thanks Chameleon! That did fix the problem!
[09:26] <vbgunz> ahh the dude broke out
[09:26] <zorba64> bob2: for one package?...
[09:26] <snausages> bob2, security fixes, i'm told.
[09:26] <Madpilot> bobbyd: I just checked, there doesn't seem to be any 'how to mount a HD' page at the wiki at all... :(
[09:26] <vbgunz> someone should make backports official... in some sense at least...
[09:27] <bob2> zorba64: he/she will be upgrading to breezy in 2 weeks anyway
[09:27] <vbgunz> sucks Ubuntu don't play DVD's out the box... At least it doesn't play my Dave Chapelle's
[09:27] <nalioth> bob2: how does one read that and respond? >>yoshiki
[09:27] <bob2> snausages: if there are security issues in gaim, they will be fixed in the version in hoary
[09:27] <zorba64> bob2: so he should just sit on it until then
[09:27] <bob2> vbgunz: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:27] <bob2> Madpilot: suck
[09:27] <bob2> Madpilot: seveas had something, no idea where it went tho
[09:27] <bob2> zorba64: Iagree
[09:28] <Kytten> saik0 that programs which give me that guy scanmodem it's like an image white icon , i can't start it , it's asking me to choose program to start it with , what do i choose or what to do
[09:28] <vbgunz> I know about that bob2, thanks. But thats not what I mean... it should just play... not being lazy cause I can do it, just don't like the idea :(
[09:28] <bob2> nalioth: I don't know, it appears to require a font I don't have
[09:28] <jani> does sum1 know why subtitles won't work with totem/vlc?
[09:28] <bob2> vbgunz: not possible, sorry
[09:28] <nalioth> bob2: i dont have it either
[09:28] <bob2> vbgunz: ubuntu is not allowed to support dvd playback; complain to your government if this annoys you
[09:28] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: I'm glad that worked. I can help you get DVD playback working, too
[09:28] <vbgunz> it's cool bob2, I will live with it and see what Linux is all about without backports... experimenting till I go nuts!
[09:28] <snausages> i guess i just found it weird that id have to wait for an entirely new release of the os just to get the new version of the IM client (coming from the windows world)
[09:28] <aftertaf> Kytten:  i think it was a script he asked you to download.
[09:28] <vbgunz> I could get DVD playing, its no problem
[09:29] <nalioth> vbgunz: linux is what YOU make it, a CD with a distro is just a starting point
[09:29] <Kytten> yup
[09:29] <aftertaf> Kyral:  so you need to run it in console...
[09:29] <bob2> vbgunz: it'sashame ubuntu can't play it out of the box, but it's not ubuntu's fault
[09:29] <vbgunz> just don't like the idea of backports... I have over 700 MPG home movies... can't see them without backports :(
[09:29] <Kytten> the name is scanmodem
[09:29] <Madpilot> bob2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive - found it...
[09:29] <bob2> snausages: you can get the newer version if you want, but there's generally no point
[09:29] <vbgunz> I understand... I am slowly building rebel blood
[09:29] <bob2> Madpilot: ah, you should tell ubotu
[09:29] <bob2> vbgunz: you don't need backports to play movies
[09:29] <bob2> vbgunz: multiverse != backports
[09:29] <vbgunz> totem didn't play my MPGs
[09:30] <bob2> vbgunz: then install mplayer
[09:30] <Madpilot> bob2: just setting that up now
[09:30] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: totem kind of sucks
[09:30] <bob2> vbgunz: which is entirely orthogonal to backports
[09:30] <bob2> vbgunz: it'sin multiverse
[09:30] <vladuz976> does anybody here know much about GDM ?
[09:30] <aftertaf> Kytten:  ok. open a terminal and run it....
[09:30] <drcode> hi all
[09:30] <vbgunz> I tried xine but it kept locking up my disk drive
[09:30] <aftertaf> Kytten:  is it on your desktop?
[09:30] <drcode> I need help
[09:30] <aftertaf> drcode:  ask away;)
[09:30] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: totem uses xine for the backend
[09:30] <Kytten> run it from my xp
[09:30] <drcode> how I Can fix this error
[09:30] <drcode> ldconfig: /usr/lib/libavcodec-cvs.so is not a symbolic link
[09:30] <vbgunz> I've got to read up on that, thanks for the pointer bob2
[09:30] <Kytten> i am using my xp now
[09:30] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: I think it can also use something else, but I forget
[09:30] <aftertaf> Kytten:  nope, from your linux (are you on dualboot?)
[09:31] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: be sure to install and try VLC, too. It's pretty good
[09:31] <Kytten> i can't use my linux
[09:31] <vbgunz> I just want to keep my Ubuntu legit... I want to see why it is so popular without trying to break the rules...
[09:31] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: what rules? I didn't know there were rules!!
[09:31] <Kytten> cuz i can't connect to net
[09:31] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: ;P
[09:31] <Kytten> my modem dosent work
[09:31] <Kytten> i couldent find it on that list
[09:31] <vbgunz> I have a real dvd player, a ps2, etc... I don't game much and if I was bored to death I'd boot into windows
[09:31] <Madpilot> ubotu tell bob2 about mount
[09:31] <drcode> any idea?
[09:31] <vbgunz> :)
[09:31] <drcode> ldconfig: /usr/lib/libavcodec-cvs.so is not a symbolic link ???
[09:31] <rigel> how do i get rid of amarok?
[09:31] <rigel> i couldnt find the package
[09:32] <draug_n> rigel: sudo apt-get remove amarok _should_ do it
[09:32] <snausages> bob2, if i wanted to build from source, id have to get rid of the old version, right?
[09:32] <[Chameleon] > Kyral: what's the modem?
[09:32] <aftertaf> Kytten:  oK... you'll need to reboot to linux and run the script. Can you do that and tell us what type of modem it is when you reboot to xp?
[09:32] <vbgunz> on my second day I followed the unofficial guide a bit and installed all those restricted formats but I left the backports open in the config and before I knew it I had updates conflicting... I heard someone the other day say something like "when you done, comment it out" I'll do that next time
[09:33] <CrashBox> hey guys....... finally got limewirefree into a .deb and was able to install using dpkg..... how can i submit this to a repository so other can d/l it?
[09:33] <aftertaf> sorry Kyral , we keep getting the wrong nick.. ;)
[09:33] <bob2> snausages: no
[09:33] <bob2> snausages: you'd leave it and install the source version to /usr/local/
[09:33] <rigel> why does it want to remove the kubuntu-desktop package too? that sounds ominous
[09:33] <saik0> rigel, thats only a dummy-package
[09:33] <aftertaf> rigel:  amarok is a part of kde package (in a dependancy point of view)
[09:34] <thoreauputic> rigel: it's OK  - that's just a metapackage
[09:34] <saik0> yea what he said
[09:34] <aftertaf> for the kde metapackage.
[09:34] <rigel> ok, and now how to i change the default audio player to xmms
[09:34] <benplaut> i installed gstreamer plugins, w32codecs, and totem-xine, but i can't get videos to play
[09:34] <vbgunz> can someone please help me somehow boot into my USB drive... I have an installation of Ubuntu on there and I am hoping to get into it... I need to somehow boot from CD and then from CD point to the USB drive and boot up. Only problem is my USB drive is not bootable and so why I am asking to boot from CD... i need the USB initialized otherwise no go... Any help would be greatly appreciatedz12
[09:34] <benplaut> the time and size works, but the picture is blank
[09:34] <benplaut> [breezy] 
[09:34] <aftertaf> vbgunz:  cant you boot from usb in bios?
[09:35] <Kytten> aftertaf my modem is ceartive
[09:35] <jani> anyone got subtitles to work?
[09:35] <Kytten> does that helps
[09:35] <aftertaf> Kytten:  yeah, but the chipset and all, you need to run the script in linux for that info
[09:35] <rigel> now how to i change the default audio player to xmms
[09:35] <aftertaf> i thnk
[09:35] <Kytten> k
[09:35] <vbgunz> nah, but even if I could "which I can't, emachines played me good" I would like to know if it is possible to boot into the USB drive from a bootable CD/DVD... the reason is i wish to take Ubuntu with me and not everyone such as myself will have such an option in the BIOS
[09:36] <Kytten> run it where
[09:36] <Kytten> which place
[09:36] <draug_n> vbgunz: maybe http://rz-obrian.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/knoppix-usb/ could give u some hints?
[09:36] <genius> can anyone help me with a internet connection problem, i think it has to do with dhcp.
[09:36] <aftertaf> Kytten:  its a script you need to run from a terminal in Linux
[09:36] <Kytten> u told me something like terminal
[09:36] <aftertaf> genius:  what is the pb?
[09:36] <vbgunz> I need a CD/DVD which will initialize the USB, then attempt to boot into it "hopefully keeping the connection alive"
[09:37] <Kytten> does that terminal read form floppy
[09:37] <vbgunz> thanks Draug_n I'll look now
[09:37] <draug_n> vgunz: google is your friend too:)
[09:37] <saik0> aftertaf, tastes good with jelly
[09:37] <Kytten> cuz i can't get through my other hd drives once i go to linux
[09:37] <genius> aftertaf: I installed ubuntu and i lose connection to internet every now and then, it's very unstable.
[09:37] <vbgunz> I tried google and maybe it is in my face but being new to Linux all together is probably a reason why I am missing it :9
[09:37] <aftertaf> Kytten:  should be ok... you need to 'mount' drives...... hard drives and floppies in the same way.
[09:37] <vbgunz> i'll be back
[09:37] <jani> kytten u can make other drives visible to ubuntu
[09:38] <Kytten> how can i do that
[09:38] <Nermal> edit /etc/fstab
[09:38] <Kytten> they are visibles but not allowed to use them
[09:38] <jani> kytten: ubuntuguide.org
[09:38] <aftertaf> Kytten:  reboot to linux, once booted, open a terminal session and put in the floppy, type 'sudo mount /media/floppy' then 'cd /media/floppy' then type the name of the script
[09:38] <Nermal> Kytten, edit the umask option perhaps in /etc/fstab
[09:38] <topyli> somebody must remember the url of the script that Seveas(?) wrote
[09:38] <jani> it is very clearly explained there :)
[09:38] <aftertaf> !tell Kytten about mount
[09:38] <genius> aftertaf: how can i check if it is a dhcp problem? right now internet works.
[09:39] <Nermal> umask=022 will give you read and execute permissions
[09:39] <drcode> any idea how I can fix it?
[09:39] <drcode> ldconfig: /usr/lib/libavcodec-cvs.so is not a symbolic link ???
[09:39] <Nermal> erm
[09:39] <Nermal> make it a symbolic link ? :)
[09:39] <aftertaf> genius:  could be a modem driver problem.... i have the same type of pb at home too.
[09:39] <ohphracku> what umask to set default file creation permissions to owner rwx only?
[09:39] <aftertaf> genius:  type dmesg and see if you get a lot of dropped packets.
[09:39] <vbgunz> man I am afraid I might need some more ideas on booting in... in a sense I cannot believe this isn't talked about more than I had hoped
[09:40] <Nermal> ohphracku, 000
[09:40] <Nermal> oh
[09:40] <Nermal> 077 even
[09:40] <genius> aftertaf: bc internet works perfect with suse and windows.
[09:40] <Nermal> it's the opposite of the permission
[09:40] <Nermal> hence the "mask" :)
[09:40] <ohphracku> i have it set 077 or is it 022
[09:40] <ohphracku> ill check
[09:40] <Nermal> 077 should be
[09:40] <Nermal> that will give you 700
[09:40] <Nermal> permission wise
[09:41] <ohphracku> yeah 077
[09:41] <[Chameleon] > benplaut: DVDs or media files?
[09:41] <aftertaf> genius:  no idea on that one, sorry.....
[09:41] <benplaut> [Chameleon] , media... AVI, mostly
[09:41] <[Chameleon] > benplaut: DIVX?
[09:41] <genius> aftertaf: ok, thanks anyway
[09:41] <benplaut> [Chameleon] , nope
[09:41] <ohphracku> no 077 sets -rwx-r-x-r-x
[09:42] <ohphracku> shit i just want full 700
[09:42] <Nermal> ohphracku, erm... man umask ? :
[09:42] <ohphracku> i know
[09:42] <Nermal> d0h :|
[09:42] <Nermal> google ? :)
[09:42] <ohphracku> yeah
[09:42] <ohphracku> woo haa haa haaaaa
[09:42] <[Chameleon] > benplaut: run your media player from the terminal and try to play a file. What messages does it generate?
[09:43] <[Chameleon] > benplaut: if it's a lot of text, don't paste it here, instead inform me first and we'll go to #flood
[09:43] <benplaut> [Chameleon] , i know... i've been around here a few months :P
[09:43] <ohphracku> hey i noticed a bug when running gxine and watching dvd
[09:43] <[Chameleon] > benplaut: OK... didn't want to take the chance
[09:44] <benplaut> [Chameleon] , just repeating the following a few times:
[09:44] <benplaut> (totem:18637): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_file_system_path_is_local: assertion `path != NULL' failed
[09:44] <Nermal> ohphracku, were you watching 'a bugs life' ?
[09:44] <[Chameleon] > benplaut: I haven't been an ubuntu user for very long, but I've been using Linux for more than 7 years
[09:44] <benplaut> i am in nead of a reinstall... i think i'll give this up
[09:44] <ohphracku> if you switch workspaces while viewing dvd the gxine or just the whole x would crash
[09:44] <[Chameleon] > benplaut: try one thing first
[09:44] <benplaut> i b0rked a ton of stuff already, in les than a month ;p
[09:44] <wezzer> when breezu is going to be released? soon?
[09:45] <benplaut> [Chameleon] , yah?
[09:45] <benplaut> !breezy
[09:45] <[Chameleon] > benplaut: copy the file you're trying to play to /tmp
[09:45] <wezzer> erm, breezy
[09:45] <[Chameleon] > benplaut: then try playing it from there.
[09:45] <Madpilot> wezzer: oct 13th - in about a month
[09:45] <benplaut> !+breezy
[09:45] <ubotu> it has been said that breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It hasn't reached stable-status, so it can still be broken. A pictorial view of differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/  ...another review with lots of pictures:  http://cs.georgefox.edu/~jdodson/breezy_preview/
[09:45] <topyli> wezzer: in a month
[09:45] <benplaut> okee
[09:45] <wezzer> yay!
[09:45] <wezzer> thanks
[09:45] <[Chameleon] > :)
[09:45] <ohphracku> i need source access
[09:46] <[Chameleon] > ohphracku: sounds like it might be a video driver issue. what's your card?
[09:46] <benplaut> [Chameleon] , does the same... in totem-gstreamer, totem-xine, mplayer, and vlc
[09:47] <lastnode> how do i know if ubuntu supports my asus wl-167g usb wifi dongle
[09:47] <lastnode> ?
[09:47] <benplaut> i might have had something happen with w32codes, now that i think of it
[09:47] <topyli> ok, i'm reverting to gaim because i have it running anyway. i don't want to run two tools for basically the same thing :)
[09:47] <ohphracku> eveything worked great just as long as you didnt switch workspaces this is the only distro ive used thats crashed like that
[09:47] <[Chameleon] > benplaut: could try a complete uninstall of the codecs and reinstall them
[09:47] <benplaut> yah
[09:48] <benplaut> bah... reinstalling for a LUG demo in a day or so, i'll wait :P
[09:48] <[Chameleon] > benplaut: Or you could just start over if a lot of other stuff is broken. Heh, I did that several times when I was starting out with Linux
[09:48] <saik0> lastnode, try google and the forums. I've been asking wifi questions in here all night/morning
[09:48] <[Chameleon] > benplaut: :)
[09:48] <benplaut> yah
[09:48] <ohphracku> it may be fixed with this last USN patches for Xorg
[09:48] <benplaut> i did 2 Warty reinstalls
[09:48] <ohphracku> *these
[09:48] <benplaut> 5 of Hoary
[09:48] <[Chameleon] > benplaut: what LUG are you part of?
[09:48] <benplaut> and this is my first for breezy
[09:48] <[Chameleon] > cool
[09:49] <lastnode> saik0, ok thanks
[09:49] <benplaut> [Chameleon] , Big Island LUG... small one
[09:49] <[Chameleon] > HI?
[09:49] <lastnode> let me know if you find anything as well?
[09:49] <lastnode> saik0, i heard i might need an ndiswrapper for my driver
[09:49] <[Chameleon] > benplaut: ah, kewl...
[09:49] <saik0> lastnode, it's very possible
[09:49] <ohphracku> what card lastnode
[09:49] <ohphracku> ?
[09:49] <benplaut> only a few linux users in hawaii :P
[09:49] <benplaut> even less on big island :P
[09:49] <lastnode> ohphracku, asus wl-167g USB
[09:49] <ohphracku> what drivers
[09:50] <ohphracku> oh ok
[09:50] <cafuego_> nalioth +q *!*@*
[09:50] <parshimers> this lack of root takes some getting used to :(
[09:50] <lastnode> asus has the linux drivers as source
[09:50] <ohphracku> usb huh damn never installed for usb
[09:50] <nalioth> cafuego_: i'd rather k-line em
[09:50] <lastnode> but the .zip corrupts everytime i corrupt it
[09:50] <lastnode> *download it
[09:50] <cafuego_> nalioth: Should wotk with the same hostmask
[09:50] <aftertaf> loll lastnode :)
[09:50] <lastnode> aftertaf, :)
[09:50] <nalioth> cafuego_: i'd be very busy
[09:50] <lastnode> could someone help me?
[09:50] <saik0> bwahaha
[09:50] <lastnode> i wanna totally kick out xp
[09:50] <lastnode> but i cant with no net access
[09:51] <No1Viking> How to convert doc to pdf?
[09:51] <[Chameleon] > lastnode: URL of ASUS driver?
[09:51] <ohphracku> got the atheros AR5212 pcmcia
[09:51] <cafuego_> nalioth: only if somehow someone fiound out your email address ;-)
[09:51] <lastnode> [Chameleon] , one sec
[09:51] <cafuego_> No1Viking: Open with openoffice.org, save as PDF.
[09:51] <aftertaf> parshimers:  sudo much of the time ;)
[09:51] <[Chameleon] > lastnode: I'll check if it's in fact corrupted on their server.
[09:51] <parshimers> sudo doesnt seem to work
[09:51] <parshimers> at all
[09:51] <lastnode> [Chameleon] , http://www.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/wireless/WL-167g/SourceCode-V2030.zip
[09:51] <Nermal> sudo <command>
[09:51] <Nermal> enter user pass
[09:51] <aftertaf> parshimers:  hows that??
[09:51] <Nermal> simple
[09:51] <ohphracku> later peeps
[09:51] <saik0> why would you distrubute linux source as zips and not some compressed tarball?
[09:52] <Nermal> or sudo su to get root
[09:52] <ohphracku> ;-] 
[09:52] <vbgunz> kernel panic!
[09:52] <parshimers> i know i know
[09:52] <parshimers> it just doesnt do anything
[09:52] <parshimers> say i run chown or something, nothing happens
[09:52] <cafuego_> What command are you trying to run?
[09:52] <lastnode> fark
[09:52] <cafuego_> parshimers: If it doesn't print an error, the command succeeded.
[09:52] <lastnode> still waiting for neighbour to come home to get ubuntu cd
[09:52] <Nermal> lastnode, looks knackered
[09:52] <[Chameleon] > lastnode: 1 moment... firefox crashed. Thank God for SessionSaver
[09:52] <aftertaf> try sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list     do you get read/write access?
[09:52] <Nermal> same thing here with wget
[09:52] <thoreauputic> lastnode: fark: command not found ;)
[09:52] <lastnode> Nermal, the .zip?
[09:53] <cafuego_> chown doesn't print progress info, it just chowns, then exits.
[09:53] <parshimers> then why do my files still belong to someone named "500" who doesnt exist D:
[09:53] <Nermal> lastnode, yup :|
[09:53] <cafuego_> parshimers: Wrong command?
[09:53] <lastnode> [Chameleon] , sorry about that, you can just forget it man
[09:53] <Nermal> lastnode, you need the windows driver for ndiswrapper
[09:53] <lastnode> stupid effing asus
[09:53] <lastnode> as saik0 said, why
[09:53] <[Chameleon] > lastnode: confirmed. it's corruped
[09:53] <lastnode> .zip for linux
[09:53] <[Chameleon] > corrupt
[09:53] <vbgunz> kernel panic is what I find when I do a search for booting linux on a USB via CD, floppy, etc... I am telling you, any gurus please? I only need a little brains >:)
[09:53] <parshimers> well chown is what you use to change ownership on something, right?
[09:53] <cafuego_> parshimers: Or are you trying to run it on a vfat or NTFS partition?
[09:53] <parshimers> its a ext3
[09:53] <parshimers> this is my /home
[09:53] <Nermal> lastnode, get the windows driver and point ndiswrapper to the .inf file
[09:54] <parshimers> i have 2 drives, one is / the other is /home
[09:54] <Nermal> parshimers, aye.. no output is generally good
[09:54] <lastnode> i have no idea wtf ndiswrapper is
[09:54] <saik0> can somebody familiar with the ipw2200 help with the dmesg output http://pastebin.com/363284
[09:54] <lastnode> think ill be able to take it over to the laptop on a usb drive?
[09:55] <Nermal> lastnode, ndiswrapper allows you to use windows drivers on linux
[09:55] <[Chameleon] > lastnode: yes
[09:55] <saik0> lastnode, it's a wrapper for wlan windows drivers...so they work in linux
[09:55] <Nermal> generally for wireless cards
[09:55] <[Chameleon] > lastnode: http://ndiswrapper.sf.net
[09:55] <lastnode> great, ill install ubuntu and bbiab
[09:55] <lastnode> thanks guys
[09:55] <Nermal> :)
[09:55] <[Chameleon] > np
[09:55] <[Chameleon] > good luck
[09:55] <lastnode> ive got 14gigs for the main parti, and 2 gig for swap
[09:55] <[Chameleon] > I haven't got ndiswrapper working on my wife's laptop
[09:55] <lastnode> should be enough right?
[09:55] <Nermal> it's actually rather pleasant
[09:55] <[Chameleon] > plenty
[09:55] <Nermal> lastnode, aye
[09:56] <fek> moin
[09:56] <lastnode> [Chameleon] , why, what happened?
[09:56] <saik0> [Chameleon] , i've never gotten ndis wrapper working
[09:56] <[Chameleon] > lastnode: you could probably install Ubuntu in that swap partition. ;)
[09:56] <lastnode> gee thats nice to know
[09:56] <Nermal> lastnode, there is a list of supported devices at http://ndiswrapper.sf.net check yours is there
[09:56] <vbgunz> usb drive? anyone booting from one without bios supports via floppy, sd, CD, DVD?
[09:56] <[Chameleon] > saik0: I've had it working on FC2 & FC3
[09:56] <lastnode> i stand a good chance of getting to work then, beign a total noob
[09:56] <[Chameleon] > lastnode: yep. especially with our help.
[09:56] <Nermal> lastnode, aye.. just download the windows driver, unzip it, and then do sudo ndiswrapper -i /path/to/.inf file
[09:57] <lastnode> heh :)
[09:57] <lastnode> bbiab
[09:57] <[Chameleon] > l8r
[09:57] <saik0> my wired and wireless NICs hate eachother
[09:57] <Jekamean> Question: I checked my dhcp list and both of my linux boxes show up as unknown, I set hostnames for them on install, any idea?
[09:57] <lastnode> i wish work just gave me a laptop with a pci wifi card
[09:57] <lastnode> wtf
[09:57] <Nermal> Jekamean, the box serving out the dhcp request have them in it's /etc/host file ?
[09:58] <[Chameleon] > lastnode: wouldn't necessarily solve your problem
[09:58] <Jekamean> my router sets the dhcp, my windows boxes show the names, just not the linux ones
[09:58] <[Chameleon] > lastnode: PCI cards can require ndiswrapper in Linux, too. Depends entirely on the chipset
[09:58] <lastnode> i thought debian is pretty good with pci hardware detection?
[09:58] <[Chameleon] > detection and having a working driver are two very different things
[09:58] <lastnode> mmm
[09:59] <parshimers> i think i broke root somehow, i dont know how anything that needs root permissions wouldnt run otherwise
[09:59] <lastnode> taprobane for example finds my vga but only lets me go 800x600
[09:59] <[Chameleon] > the main problem with WiFi stuff is that most of it is kept secret because WiFi cards are basically software radios
[09:59] <saik0> unless your driver works, until you install drivers for your wired card and then the wireless breaks
[09:59] <Jekamean> nermal, my router sets the dhcp, my windows boxes show the names, just not the linux ones
[09:59] <Nermal> parshimers, if you've chmodded it 644 or something
[10:00] <Nermal> Jekamean, probably a router thing.. only picks up windows hostnames
[10:00] <Nermal> or netbios names rather
[10:00] <[Chameleon] > and governments don't like the idea of ppl running around with the capability to change the frequency of the software radios to interfere with certain areas of the radio spectrum, especially secret or emergency services transmissions.
[10:00] <Nermal> I imagine it would work if you installed samba server on your linux box, set the samba name and started samba :)
[10:00] <Jekamean> oh, that makes sence, nermal, i have two boxs here one can see share's the other cant, both requrie me to log in, but when i put in the passowrd it dosnt give an error just asks for the pass agian
[10:01] <lastnode_> sorry wifi dropped
[10:01] <Jekamean> nermal, i have samba running, it's no big deal, but 4 unknow's show up instead of 2
[10:02] <Nermal> you set the samba server name / etc ?
[10:02] <Jekamean> jsut annoying, at one time dhcp said my winbox had 8 ip's
[10:02] <Nermal> hmm :|
[10:02] <Jekamean> how do i set the samba name
[10:02] <Nermal> maybe #samba could help
[10:02] <Nermal> erm.. in .smb.conf
[10:02] <Nermal> which will be in /etc/samba I think
[10:02] <saik0> man samba
[10:02] <Jekamean> ok
[10:03] <parshimers> nermal: it happens to be 644'd but root can change anything, exept it doesnt want to for some reason
[10:03] <Nermal> parshimers, executables have to be set to be executable
[10:03] <parshimers> it just doesnt do anything
[10:03] <Nermal> 755 for example
[10:03] <vbgunz> I have a hypothetical question... if linux for some reason let's say... became unbootable... how would you use a CD or floppy to boot in?.. need usb support :D
[10:03] <parshimers> no using any command as root
[10:03] <parshimers> does nothing
[10:03] <parshimers> chmod, chown, nautilus
[10:03] <parshimers> anything
[10:03] <parshimers> just plain does nothing
[10:03] <Nermal> parshimers, tried rm -rf / ?
[10:04] <Nermal> :)
[10:04] <Nermal> if you really believe its doing nothing
[10:04] <parshimers> meh i guess ill reinstall FC4
[10:04] <[Chameleon] > vbgunz: boot in rescue mode.
[10:04] <parshimers> i dont belive its doing nothing, i know its doing nothing
[10:04] <Nermal> parshimers, one less person for us to support :)
[10:04] <[Chameleon] > Nermal: what happened to "nice" Nermal?
[10:05] <parshimers> oh well thats helpful :|
[10:05] <vbgunz> sheesh... I am so tired I am falling apart
[10:05] <Nermal> [Chameleon] , note the smiley :)
[10:05] <Nermal> parshimers, well just saying "it's doing nothing" is equally helpful :|
[10:05] <parshimers> theres no better way to explain it
[10:05] <Nermal> does sudo su work ?
[10:06] <parshimers> parshimers@Parshimers:~$ sudo su
[10:06] <parshimers> parshimers@Parshimers:~$
[10:06] <[Chameleon] > sudo su is not valid
[10:06] <wezzer> sudo su root
[10:06] <[Chameleon] > why are you trying to su?
[10:06] <vbgunz> it's a bit frustrating... I am trying to take Ubuntu with me anywhere I go on a USB drive... I just can't boot in... I only got the first stage of installation done... trying to complete the second and boot in..
[10:06] <[Chameleon] > does that work?
[10:06] <[Chameleon] > crap, that works
[10:06] <[Chameleon] > hmm
[10:06] <Nermal> [Chameleon] , sudo su works :P
[10:06] <[Chameleon] > I see that
[10:06] <Nermal> :)
[10:06] <[Chameleon] > interesting
[10:06] <[Chameleon] > handy to know
[10:07] <[Chameleon] > I've not needed it in the few months I've been running Ubuntu, but handy none the less
[10:07] <Nermal> parshimers, sudo visudo ?
[10:07] <parshimers> parshimers@Parshimers:~$ sudo visudo
[10:07] <parshimers> parshimers@Parshimers:~$
[10:07] <draug_n> vbgunz: remember looking into that myself some tmie go.. *checking google*
[10:07] <thoreauputic> parshimers: very weird
[10:07] <Nermal> parshimers, hmmm
[10:08] <parshimers> sometimes it asks for a password
[10:08] <lastnode_> [Chameleon] ,  Nermal : http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx?Type=All&model=WL-167g
[10:08] <Nermal> parshimers, what did you do then  :)
[10:08] <parshimers> but endresult is the same
[10:08] <lastnode_> there are links to a lotta linux drivers
[10:08] <lastnode_> including fedora core3
[10:08] <lastnode_> and suse9
[10:08] <parshimers> its a fresh installation
[10:08] <parshimers> i dont know what i could have done to it
[10:08] <Nermal> lastnode, easiest would be a ndiswrapper one
[10:08] <Nermal> unless you want to compile your own
[10:08] <lastnode_> so win98SE or windows 2003
[10:09] <vbgunz> me too, I am currently on expert exchange checking an article... I am just dead beat... I would have expected booting into an Ubuntu USB drive would be pretty simple yet maybe hidden. Truth is it seems it's a task no one takes on or a task tasked for other OS's... it's confusing.. I am beat... need sleep
[10:09] <Nermal> lastnode, erm.. I would do win 2003
[10:09] <draug_n> vbgunz: try here for ideas :http://fuzzymunchkin.dyndns.org:8080/tdot/usbkeyfob/index.php
[10:09] <Nermal> parshimers, hoary ?
[10:09] <parshimers> breezy
[10:09] <Nermal> ah
[10:09] <Nermal> maybe a breezy bug :|
[10:09] <lastnode_> Nermal, "  	The ASUS WL-167g 64 bits Cardbus Card driver for Win2003_x86/Win2003_IA64/Win2003_AMD64"
[10:09] <lastnode_> 64bit drivers?
[10:10] <Nermal> lastnode, 32
[10:10] <lastnode_> so that link is ok?
[10:10] <Nermal> parshimers, you could try asking in #ubuntu-devel but be aware that is a development channel (so people use breezy) but not a support channel
[10:10] <draug_n> vbgunz: this you brobably need as well (to make the usb disk bootable without resorting to windows): http://syslinux.zytor.com/
[10:10] <jsan> Hello, is it possible to have a Network Profile in ubuntu?
[10:10] <vbgunz> looking Draug, thanks
[10:10] <Jekamean> jsan, i'm doing the same thing
[10:10] <Nermal> parshimers, something along the lines of "is there an issue with sudo in breezy at the moment.?"
[10:11] <Jekamean> jsan you should wisper me
[10:11] <jsan> Jekamean, sure
[10:11] <parshimers> kk
[10:11] <vbgunz> well even if the USB drive was bootable, my bios doesn't support it... I used the HP utility and some boot files from bootdisk... no go :"(
[10:11] <vbgunz> am looking at that last link
[10:11] <Nermal> parshimers, otherwise I would recommend installing hoary
[10:11] <vbgunz> that last page looked good
[10:12] <vladuz976> when will breezy be released?
[10:12] <vbgunz> im looking it over
[10:12] <saik0> Oct 13th IIRC
[10:12] <lastnode_> it's interesting, the download says rt2500
[10:12] <lastnode_> so maybe they're based on that chipset
[10:12] <vbgunz> breezy will be released in 4 years and 10 days - 3 years and about 400 days... something like that
[10:12] <[Chameleon] > lastnode_: for a good long-term solution, you should report the problem with the source download to ASUS tech support
[10:12] <lastnode_> the wiki has something on it
[10:12] <[Chameleon] > lastnode_: they may be unaware.
[10:12] <vbgunz> next month I think sometime
[10:13] <lastnode_> [Chameleon] , ill do that
[10:13] <saik0> [Chameleon] , is that driver not included in the resticted modules package?
[10:13] <draug_n> vbgunz: try going into bios setup _with_ the usb disk plugged in. it might help.  I cannot select usb hdd as boot device without doing that myself.
[10:13] <lastnode_> also, most of the wiki steps use apt-get
[10:13] <vbgunz> ahh man Draugh it only boots up fat partitions
[10:14] <lastnode_> but i wont have net access on that laptop until after i setup the wifi
[10:14] <lastnode_> :S
[10:14] <vbgunz> it's always plugged in... I use as a spare mostly... my backup drive too..
[10:14] <draug_n> vbgunz: oh well
[10:16] <vbgunz> my problem is the USB drive itself is not bootable... *and* even if it was, my bios doesn't support it... I am down and out looking for a floppy boot which will initialize the USB drive first before going ahead... I know what I am looking for but man... It's getting difficult for me... maybe I am just too tired
[10:16] <aftertaf> apt on the install CD has a major problem... when you are not connected to the internet but it finds a valid netcard and configures it (ie DHCP but your net access  it behind a proxy), it waits for like 30 mins+ on testing network/security repository)
[10:16] <aftertaf> just wanted to share that with someone ;)
[10:17] <lastnode_> aftertaf, ive heard that too
[10:17] <[Chameleon] > saik0: I didn't check, but why would it be if they offer the source code on their site?
[10:17] <vbgunz> im looking over that usb keyfob site now
[10:17] <aftertaf> im living it right now.
[10:17] <[Chameleon] > saik0: I think that ASUS just needs to check on the file; it seems corrupt on their servers.
[10:18] <klex> I cant play audio cd's. I just get bad chunks of the songs when i try to play them. Is this a problem with my soundcard or my cdrom?
[10:18] <saik0> [Chameleon] , yep...was'nt thinking at all
[10:18] <[Chameleon] > lastnode_: did you try extracting that file in Windows?
[10:18] <vbgunz> nope... I am required to have a bios that supports booting the USB drive
[10:18] <vbgunz> sheesh... holycow...
[10:18] <thoreauputic> klex: do you have dma enabled for the drive?
[10:18] <[Chameleon] > saik0: hehe, np. Thank you for speaking up. It's OK to err sometimes. :)
[10:19] <klex> thoreauputic, yes i have. I data cd's works, just not audio cd's
[10:19] <draug_n> vbgunz: if u want a bootable floppyt with usb mass storage, you need to make a cunstom boot image with the following modules: usbcore, usb_storage, ehci/uhci/ohci_hcd and sd_mod (think that is enough). try 'man mkinitrd' for help on maing costom initrd's :)
[10:20] <Jekamean> jsan, i'm chating in the other room, can you not see it?
[10:20] <draug_n> oh, and scsi_mod
[10:20] <vbgunz> you are the man, If I get no definitive answer on how to boot usb via floppy or cd I am taking your last comment to the grave, promise...
[10:20] <wezzer> umm, mplayer won't play dvd's
[10:20] <wezzer> mplayer dvd:// won't work
[10:20] <wezzer> how to fix it?
[10:20] <aftertaf> !apt_proxy
[10:20] <ubotu> aftertaf: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:20] <aftertaf> !apt-proxy
[10:20] <ubotu> aftertaf: I haven't a clue
[10:20] <aftertaf> grrrrrrr
[10:21] <draug_n> vbgunz: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/11/msg01601.html might help too...
[10:21] <vbgunz> it's 4:20 in the morning... was hoping I get an answer and have sweet dreams but your help was better than I had hoped
[10:21] <draug_n> np :)
[10:21] <ompaul> aftertaf, its on the wiki
[10:21] <ice_1963> mplayer :0(-lol
[10:21] <ompaul> I was reading it yesterdat
[10:21] <ompaul> yesterday  (doh number 3)
[10:22] <klex> i have another problem to, totem will not start, just get a message that tells me that its busy or not avaliable... what to do?
[10:22] <draug_n> vbgunz: hint: the key file to edit is /etc/mkinitrd/modules :)
[10:22] <vbgunz> see the thing about that page you sent me because I actually found it earlier was since I am new to linux I have no idea what is error or verbose or typed in or just comments on that page...
[10:22] <vbgunz> I've bookmarked it and will look it over when I am up and about feeling better... I am sure thats why I need
[10:23] <saik0> Would WPA work semi-out-of-the-box in breezy with wpasupplicant and wifiradar?
[10:24] <vbgunz> really quickly what is that file you're pointing me too?
[10:24] <vbgunz> or thats a direct?
[10:25] <ice_1963> well how is Breezy going it look's good
[10:25] <catfox> morning all.
[10:25] <vbgunz> i dont have that file or direct...
[10:25] <catfox> i'm trying to get a Broadcom BCM4306 wireless card working in hoary, but can't get anywhere
[10:25] <catfox> i've got ndiswrapper, with the driver installed
[10:26] <vbgunz> im on Breezy Draug_n... thats cool, thank you, you've helped me enough... If when I wake up I found no answer, I will take your advice and try to build something :)
[10:26] <catfox> but iwlist wlan0 scan doesn't pick up any ap's
[10:26] <draug_n> it's the config file for mkinitrd. tells it wich modules to ad ro the inital ramdisk. note: for this to work from a floppy you need a kernel image and (probably) some syslinux fiddling
[10:26] <vbgunz> morning cat
[10:26] <saik0> catfox, is it supported by ndiswrapper?
[10:27] <catfox> saik0, yes, i've seen this post: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/344849 of someone using it
[10:27] <torkel> parshimers: are you trying to do sudo as the first user you created on the system?
[10:27] <parshimers> actually no
[10:27] <torkel> well, then you are probably not allowed to run sudo
[10:27] <parshimers> oh that explains it
[10:28] <parshimers> lemme try it as first
[10:28] <saik0> catfox, try this http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[10:28] <catfox> saik0, i'll have a look, thanks
[10:29] <saik0> catfox, IIRC you should install generic chipset drivers from the manufacturer and not those that came with your card...dont quote me on that though
[10:29] <parshimers> well now another mystery arises
[10:29] <parshimers> who is 500
[10:30] <parshimers> and why does he own my old files
[10:30] <thoreauputic> parshimers: guessing - the old files are from another distro thet starts user IDs at 500
[10:31] <hmrocha> hello
[10:31] <hmrocha> where can i download the preview iso?
[10:31] <hmrocha> it's not in cdimage.ubuntulinux.org
[10:31] <vladuz976> i am getting errors with $LC_* and $LANG can someone help?
[10:32] <wezzer> hmm, is there beagle in breezy?-)
[10:32] <[Chameleon] > wezzer: yes
[10:32] <parshimers> yayyaaaayy i can own my files back now :D
[10:32] <wezzer> cool
[10:32] <[Chameleon] > parshimers: w00t!
[10:32] <[Chameleon] > parshimers: how'd you do it?!
[10:32] <parshimers> thanks chameleon
[10:32] <wezzer> I didn't manage to get it installed into hoary
[10:32] <[Chameleon] > parshimers: YW!
[10:32] <[Chameleon] > wezzer: it won't be officially "in" until Breezy+1
[10:33] <[Chameleon] > !beagle
[10:33] <ubotu> rumour has it, beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto
[10:33] <[Chameleon] > nah
[10:34] <sipior> vladuz976: well, what sort of errors
[10:35] <sipior> ?
[10:35] <saik0> wow Breezy goes nuts when i browse the 'Network Servers'
[10:35] <vladuz976> sipior, man: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct
[10:35] <wezzer> ok
[10:35] <blake> has anyone here messed around with any linux distros on a toshiba libretto?
[10:35] <sipior> vladuz976: what does "echo $LANG" and "echo $LC_ALL" say?
[10:36] <vladuz976> sipior, echo $LANG says "en" and echo $LC_ALL
[10:36] <vladuz976>  is blank
[10:37] <sipior> vladuz976: try "export LANG=en_US.UTF-8" and "export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8" and then retry
[10:38] <sipior> vladuz976: assuming english is what you want :)
[10:38] <vladuz976> sipior, yes, english is what i want
[10:39] <vladuz976> sipior, but that will only be for that term, right?
[10:39] <sipior> vladuz976: yeah, you'll have to add it to .bashrc or the like
[10:39] <vladuz976> sipior, how just at the end?
[10:39] <sipior> vladuz976: that'd be fine
[10:40] <vladuz976> sipior, i am just wondering what happened that i need to change it now
[10:40] <saik0> do you have to configure smbclient and samba seperately?
[10:40] <sipior> vladuz976: i couldn't say
[10:40] <draug_n> saiko: nope. all configs are in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:40] <saik0> shares on my windows bos are'nt showing up in 'Windows Network' in nautilus
[10:40] <ompaul> !tell saik0 about NTFS
[10:41] <[Chameleon] > !tell [Chameleon]  about NTFS
[10:41] <ompaul> ahh
[10:41] <draug_n> saik0: try smb://<ip-to host>
[10:41] <ompaul> saik0, sorry - samba client is what you want to run - that is all I know - why well I have no use for windows
[10:41] <vladuz976> sipior, but if i add it to .bashrc it will always be set the right way for this user right?
[10:42] <sipior> vladuz976: yes, should be. though you might want to add it to .gnomerc, if that's what you use. .bashrc will only set it for applications you launch from the shell
[10:42] <catfox> saik0, that worked like a charm! :)
[10:42] <saik0> catfox, great!
[10:42] <vladuz976> sipior, i use enlightenment 17
[10:42] <admin__> hello can you help me out in installing a epson lx 300 printer?
[10:42] <catfox> you know the steps to get an ip (the dhclient command and the iwconfig command) do i need to do that on every reboot?
[10:43] <vladuz976> sipior, actually this occured the first time when i got bluefish with aptitude
[10:43] <admin__> pls help?
[10:43] <sipior> vladuz976: not sure if e17 sources .bash_profile on login, but try adding it there and make sure it's propagated when you restart your X window session
[10:43] <ompaul> !tell admin__ about ask
[10:43] <admin__> installing a epson lx
[10:43] <admin__> 300 printer
[10:44] <vladuz976> sipior, just add the same to that file at the end?
[10:44] <admin__> i tried installing a lx1250
[10:44] <sipior> vladuz976: yep
[10:44] <catfox> anyone know if i have to run dhclient and the iwconfig commands on every reboot to get wireless?
[10:44] <admin__> is seems not to print very nice
[10:45] <ompaul> admin__, you have repeated yourself, I did see it the first time but have other things I need to do:  try system - administration - printing that should help
[10:45] <cafuego_> catfox: Yes, but you cna automate that via /etc/network/interfaces
[10:45] <admin__> i did that it printed alright but the print is different
[10:45] <catfox> cafuego, have you got an example of what i need to do?
[10:46] <catfox> do i just put auto in the entry somewhere?
[10:46] <saik0> draug_n, that works, but it's still not as funtional as I'd like it to be
[10:46] <admin__> any idea to fix this?
[10:46] <cafuego_> catfox: 'man 5 interfaces' contains examples.
[10:46] <catfox> cafuego, thanks
[10:46] <ompaul> admin__, you are very hard to understand printed alright - and print is different - give a lot more detail - what did you create the file with ?
[10:47] <saik0> catfox, look into wifiradar too
[10:47] <draug_n> saik0: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf, and set workgroup = <whatever>. might help
[10:47] <saik0> draug_n, thats properly configured
[10:47] <admin__> i did the administration, printer, and then ive use epson lx1240 as the driver for the printer epson lx 300
[10:47] <draug_n> saik0: ok :)
[10:48] <admin__> and it printed alright but when you see the outcome of the print on the paper its not the same as you see in the screen
[10:48] <draug_n> don'u use gnome myself, so i 'm all ot of ideas saik0
[10:49] <saik0> draug_n, it's no problem. I'll wind up mounting shares sooner or later anyhow
[10:49] <admin__> quite different ven though its a dot matrix the print should be like closely what you see in the screen
[10:49] <ompaul> admin__, what program did you create the file with?
[10:49] <admin__> openoffice word
[10:49] <saik0> draug_n, I just dont like it when things are'nt working the way they should be
[10:49] <enyc> OpenOffice word ?????
[10:49] <admin__> and spreadsheed
[10:49] <ompaul> admin__, open office writer
[10:50] <admin__> yeah thats is
[10:50] <ompaul> admin__, word is there is no word
[10:50] <admin__> sorry about that windows old habbit
[10:50] <ompaul> :)
[10:50] <admin__> any idea on how to correct this?
[10:50] <topyli> it's openoffice's own fault. they just had to copy the MS interface didn't they :)
[10:51] <ompaul>  locate gun | grep word | xargs ogg123
[10:51] <thoreauputic> admin__: how is the printed copy different? Different fonts?
[10:51] <Albrecht`> hey guys
[10:51] <admin__> yes kinda bulky in size
[10:51] <Albrecht`> i wanna know if ubuntu linux is okay for AMD Duron 750
[10:52] <topyli> Albrecht`: yes, if you have the RAM
[10:52] <lesshaste> what's a good quality method to convert a dvd to something with lower bitrate (factor >10 less) in one pass?
[10:52] <admin__> but the font on the office writer ois just norman
[10:52] <admin__> normal i mean
[10:52] <Albrecht`> yup
[10:52] <topyli> Albrecht`: it's ok on my duron 900, would like to get more ram (i have 256M)
[10:52] <Albrecht`> what is the required RAM for Ubuntu Linux>??>>
[10:53] <ompaul> admin__, okay that is enough detail please give us a moment
[10:53] <Albrecht`> Ic
[10:53] <thoreauputic> Albrecht`: usually 128 minimum
[10:53] <Albrecht`> I only have 128
[10:53] <Albrecht`> oic
[10:53] <thoreauputic> Albrecht`: might be  a bit sluggish with gnome
[10:53] <topyli> Albrecht`: that'll do so-and-so. you might to use another desktop than gnome
[10:53] <topyli> want t
[10:54] <topyli> o
[10:54] <thoreauputic> Albrecht`: maybe install xfce4 from the universe repo
[10:54] <topyli> damn
[10:54] <Albrecht`> is the installation disk (UBUNTU LINUX) for pentium same as for AMD?
[10:54] <Albrecht`> i mean would it also work?
[10:54] <thoreauputic> Albrecht`: yes
[10:54] <topyli> yes
[10:54] <lesshaste>  I suppose I am really asking about codec quality for one pass encoding
[10:55] <Albrecht`> ssorry guys
[10:55] <Albrecht`> i am idiotic in PC language
[10:55] <Albrecht`> ;)
[10:55] <Albrecht`> what is gnome dektop
[10:55] <syntaxman> Albrecht`: go totally text.. no X.. 128 will be _plenty_ :)
[10:55] <Albrecht`> sorry, got accustomed to windowes all my lige
[10:55] <topyli> Albrecht`: later when you choose kernel packages and such, your machine will be called a "k7" :)
 Albrecht`: go totally text.. no X.. 128 will be _plenty_ :)  -  what u mean?
[10:56] <thoreauputic> Albrecht`: gnome is the graphical interface by default - the windows and eye-candy stuff :)
[10:56] <topyli> Albrecht`: gnome is the default desktop (graphical interface). there are many others
[10:56] <Albrecht`> ah ic
[10:56] <thoreauputic> Albrecht`: he was kidding
[10:56] <syntaxman> Albrecht`: well, I was just joking... but it is possible to go without the gui. command line only.
[10:56] <Albrecht`> ok
[10:57] <syntaxman> Albrecht`: it is very useable, but not very pretty.
[10:57] <Albrecht`> so, which INTERFACE" would ebt uit my AMD duron 750?
[10:57] <admin__> theres nothing you can do?
[10:57] <Albrecht`> so, which INTERFACE" would i use for my AMD duron 750?
[10:57] <Albrecht`> so the speed wont be a problem
[10:57] <admin__> =(
[10:57] <Albrecht`> so ill just have to ebar with it?
[10:58] <aftertaf> Albrecht`:  try both gnome and kde, stripdown the eye candy... you may find it fast enough
[10:58] <jsan> Jekamean: nope, i can't see any text in the priv :/
[10:58] <syntaxman> Albrecht`: newbies and Windows refugees tend to avoid the command line.  I have just started using XFCE.  It is faster and smaller than gnome, and will probably be better for your pc.
[10:58] <pao> hi all...
[10:58] <ompaul> admin__, okay
[10:58] <pao> how to I change kde apps themes in ubuntu (not kubuntu)?
[10:59] <ompaul> admin__, have you tried the 9pin driver?
[10:59] <guupsta> xfce's great on low-end machines
[10:59] <Albrecht`> good question pao
[10:59] <admin__> not yet
[10:59] <pao> ... I've tried with kcontrol, but while I'm able to apply font change...it doesn't work with themes :-(
[10:59] <Albrecht`> sw
[10:59] <ompaul> admin__, try it - it seems to me that is the best way forward for you
[10:59] <Albrecht`> what is XFCE????
[10:59] <tayar> Hi
[11:00] <tayar> I downloaded the breezy preview CD
[11:00] <tayar> I don't have a CD burner
[11:00] <admin__> where should i find that? is that in the printer selection on the administration, printer?
[11:00] <tayar> how do you sudgest using its packages to upgrade?
[11:00] <thoreauputic> Albrecht`: I suggest you try a default install, and come back later with these questions
[11:00] <tayar> mount it and use apt-move?
[11:00] <aftertaf> tayar:  you can mount the iso
[11:00] <ompaul> admin__, yes, under system  admin - printer
[11:01] <saik0> tayar you can mount the iso and add the cd as a repository in apt
[11:01] <Albrecht`> ok
[11:01] <admin__> what sould i look for? 9pin, or dot matrix?
[11:01] <tayar> saik0, using apt-cdrom or apt-move?
[11:01] <Albrecht`> shall try
[11:01] <admin__> got it
[11:01] <thoreauputic> Albrecht`: if you find gnome too slow, you can change to xfce4 or another window manager/ desktop
[11:01] <ompaul> admin__, :)
[11:01] <thoreauputic> Albrecht`: but the default should work for a start
[11:01] <Albrecht`> last question:  which would work best in in DURON 750 (128 ram)....  Windows XP, Ubuntu Linux or WINDOWS 98?
[11:02] <admin__> ill try it in office
[11:02] <aftertaf> linux
[11:02] <Red_Bullet> Albrecht`: if you find and other desktops slow go to console
[11:02] <thoreauputic> Albrecht`: define "best"
[11:02] <Albrecht`> "fast"  "effecient"  "wont crash"
[11:02] <nalioth> Albrecht`: then linux is the answer
[11:02] <thoreauputic> Albrecht`: won't crash = linux
[11:03] <ompaul> Albrecht`, linux is the answer, what was the question again?
[11:03] <tayar> saik0, using apt-cdrom or apt-move??
[11:03] <ompaul> Albrecht`, given the machine any chance you could get more ram for it?
[11:03] <[Chameleon] > ompaul: hehe, haven't heard that one for a while.
[11:04] <Red_Bullet> please tell me how can i join with linux to windows
[11:04] <Red_Bullet> with ssh
[11:04] <Red_Bullet> ?
[11:04] <Red_Bullet> can i join with ssh
[11:04] <geyzer> g'day ompaul
[11:04] <admin__> thnx its kinda ok now
[11:04] <[Chameleon] > Red_Bullet: are you trying to connect from Windows to Linux?
[11:04] <admin__> thnx alot men
[11:04] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: install putty on windows
[11:04] <[Chameleon] > Red_Bullet: or Linux to Windows?
[11:04] <admin__> have a nice day ompaul
[11:04] <ompaul> admin__, enjoy
[11:04] <ompaul> ahh well
[11:05] <ompaul> hi geyzer
[11:05] <geyzer> still using ubuntu i c?
[11:05] <Albrecht`> ok
[11:05] <Albrecht`> sure
[11:05] <ompaul> geyzer, and why not :)
[11:05] <Albrecht`> ill get more ram for it when i have money
[11:05] <Albrecht`> ;)
[11:05] <Albrecht`> OH WAIT
[11:05] <Albrecht`> LAST
[11:06] <tayar> saik0, using apt-cdrom or apt-move???????????????
[11:06] <tayar> saik0_, using apt-cdrom or apt-move?
[11:06] <geyzer> i've got it on my server only now
[11:06] <Albrecht`> in the installation disk, is OPEN OFFICE application already default or ill have to install openoffice as well?
[11:06] <Albrecht`> i mean, is it built-in?
[11:06] <aftertaf> Albrecht`:  it is there by default
[11:06] <saik0_> Back, ubuntu crashed =O
[11:07] <aftertaf> go and install, and enjoy!!!
[11:07] <draug_n> red_bullet: afaik, windows does not have an ssh server. there is a buit-in telnet server tho. no encryption, but should be OK on an internal network
[11:07] <ompaul> geyzer, lots of fun ?
[11:07] <Albrecht`> ok
[11:07] <Albrecht`> good
[11:07] <Albrecht`> i noticed tehre are 2 diks
[11:07] <Albrecht`> what's the other one for?
[11:07] <saik0_> tayar, using apt-get and adding the CD as a repo...IIRC
[11:07] <aftertaf> one is to install, one is a live cd to run without installing, to test it
[11:07] <thoreauputic> Albrecht`: live cd - you can rub ubuntu from it
[11:08] <Albrecht`> ah ok
[11:08] <thoreauputic> oops
[11:08] <thoreauputic> *run
[11:08] <aftertaf> loool :)
[11:08] <tayar> saik0, tell me did you read the apt docs? or guessing?
[11:08] <jsan> Does anyone know if its possible to set up a Network Profile in Hoary?
[11:09] <tayar> saik0_, tell me did you read the apt docs? or guessing?
[11:09] <Albrecht`> Okay
[11:09] <Albrecht`> thank you guys
[11:09] <aftertaf> jsan:  yopu meana user with ldap...?
[11:09] <Albrecht`> pardon my ignorance
[11:09] <saik0_> tayar, the /etc/apt/sources.list entry would look like this deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908)] / breezy main restricted
[11:09] <yancheng> Hi, does anyone know how I can make vim to show up a border at 80th col??
[11:09] <yancheng> so that I will not type the line too long or too short each time?
[11:10] <jsan> aftertaf: nope, i mean different network configurations
[11:10] <jsan> aftertaf: to the same device, so i can choose one or another
[11:11] <saik0_> tayar, why download the previre release CD and not just add the breezy repos
[11:11] <aftertaf> search in synaptic, there are packages that can do that jsan
[11:12] <tayar> saik0_, ummm I mounted it... never mind I know howto do it... I already have a package list
[11:12] <tayar> saik0_, because this stupid ISP charges $150/GB for over usages....
[11:13] <tayar> saik0_, but it mirror is free...
[11:13] <thoreauputic> tayar: time to switch ISPs (telstra bigpond = evil empire ) ;-)
[11:14] <jsan> aftertaf: are you sure? i've done this with another distro, but it used the same Network Configuration tool to set up profiles, then it just passed a parameter to the kernel at boot time to choose one or another. I was looking for something similar
[11:14] <tayar> thoreauputic, its not my home/connection/laptop/....................
[11:15] <thoreauputic> tayar: ah ic
[11:15] <lastnode_> [Chameleon] , sorry was napping
[11:15] <lastnode_> yeah i did
[11:15] <lastnode_> i just put in the live cd thoiugh
[11:15] <[Chameleon] > hehehe
[11:15] <lastnode_> and the screen borks
[11:15] <lastnode_> can i start with some options
[11:15] <lastnode_> ?
[11:15] <[Chameleon] > hmm
[11:15] <[Chameleon] > did you check the help?
[11:15] <[Chameleon] > what do you think it's borking on?
[11:16] <csunya> mystem not detect the sound card. Any sugest to resolv the problem?
[11:16] <lastnode_> [Chameleon] , video card i think
[11:16] <lastnode_> its an s3
[11:16] <lastnode_> the screen is unreadable, like fuzz
[11:18] <[Chameleon] > lastnode_: invalid res maybe?
[11:18] <nalioth> lastnode_: open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the VESA driver
[11:19] <nalioth> lastnode_: leave everything else alone (unless you absolutely know it's wrong)
 attack of the clones</music>
[11:22] <fluffybunny_> can anyone recommend a measurement converter (preferably available in synaptic) --> for conversion of (say) ounces to (say) the metric system, etc?
[11:22] <thoreauputic> bye bye bots...
[11:23] <nalioth> i dont mind em occasionally, but when they burst like that.. ..
[11:23] <seee> hey ubuntus
[11:23] <SlicerDicer-> errm did I miss something?
[11:23] <fluffybunny_> why is everyone being kicked off the channel?
[11:23] <Madpilot> fluffybunny_: google will do a lot of that stuff, actually. try "12 fl oz to liters"
[11:24] <seee> how do i cascade windows in gnome?
[11:24] <seee> or tile etc
[11:24] <fluffybunny_> Madpilot: i know, but I want one that I can use offline... just a little application
[11:24] <lastnode> sorry wifi dropped
[11:24] <lastnode> did i miss anything directed my way?
[11:25] <topyli> seee: i don't think you can, gnome isn't built llike that. application windows should appear in the same place and size you last left them
[11:25] <aftertaf> dont we have the -unregged system any more?
[11:25] <topyli> seee: that is, with the default window manager
[11:25] <jsan> aftertaf: found it in Synaptic, thanks a lot
[11:27] <topyli> aftertaf: i think the attack of the clones was defeated, #ubuntu empire prevails
[11:29] <nalioth> aftertaf: currently we are using the -unregged system due to bot swarming
[11:31] <lastnode> im suin the life cd
[11:31] <lastnode> it should find my fat32 drive right?
[11:31] <lastnode> how do i mount it?
[11:33] <seee> lastnode: sudo mkdir /media/windows
[11:33] <seee> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[11:33] <PsyBort> hello all
[11:34] <PsyBort> im about to lay an egg here, can someone please help me....
[11:34] <nalioth> thoreauputic: idk what to do about the damned bots
[11:34] <nalioth> PsyBort: do you need straw?
[11:35] <[Chameleon] > hehe
[11:36] <Madpilot> PsyBort: if you've got an actual question, please just ask it!
[11:37] <PsyBort> i was meed reply..
[11:37] <ColonelKernel> smb_fill_super: missing data argument <--- can anyone help me fix this? happens when I try to mount a samba share
[11:37] <PsyBort> the straw is fine
[11:37] <PsyBort> ok, i installed ubuntu the other nite
[11:37] <lastnode> seee: i see, thanks
[11:37] <lastnode> ntfs wont mount right?
[11:37] <PsyBort> and im having a LOT of trouble and conflicts getting wireless running.
[11:37] <Madpilot> lastnode: ntfs will mount, but read-only
[11:37] <Madpilot> !wireless
[11:37] <ubotu> well, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:38] <Madpilot> PsyBort: ^^^
[11:38] <thoreauputic> nalioth: lots of .ro it seems
[11:38] <lastnode> PsyBort, what's your chipset
[11:38] <lastnode> im working on it right now myself
[11:38] <lastnode> ive been directed to http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net
[11:38] <lastnode> if i havenet screwed up the uri again
[11:38] <lastnode> :)
[11:38] <nalioth> thoreauputic: imagine that
[11:39] <seee> :)
[11:39] <nalioth> Seveas: light to medium bot showers in the last half hour
[11:39] <PsyBort> ok thats for the link
[11:39] <PsyBort> but
[11:39] <PsyBort> ive been there
[11:39] <PsyBort> visited asx100
[11:39] <PsyBort> and started the steps
[11:39] <lastnode> installer is asking me for an ip
[11:39] <Madpilot> PsyBort: please don't use your ENTER key for punctuation...
[11:39] <Julis> hai !
[11:39] <lastnode> i dont have on, it' susually dhcp served
[11:39] <lastnode> but obv wifi card is not working
[11:39] <PsyBort> i just d.l ndiswrapper.. and now im having trouble with that.
[11:39] <vinboy123> hi guys
[11:40] <topyli> yay! finally i got all my logitech weirdo(TM) keyboard extra keys working :)
[11:40] <vinboy123> i have a list of shell command i want to  execute when i start computer
[11:40] <vinboy123> where should I out it?
[11:40] <vinboy123> where should I put it?
[11:40] <lastnode> Madpilot, is it ok if i leave this empty?
[11:41] <PsyBort> ive started the compile and install and this is the error i get....
[11:41] <Madpilot> lastnode: sorry, if you leave what empty?
[11:41] <lastnode> Madpilot, sorry dumb mistake, figured out
[11:43] <PsyBort> Cant find kernel source in /lib.modules.2.6.8.1-3-3386/; give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path> argument to make make [1]  *** [prereq_check} Error 1 LEaving directory `/home/psybort/ndiswrapper-i.3rcl/driver
[11:44] <Seveas> vinboy123, when do you want them to run? boot time or login time?
[11:45] <Seveas> PsyBort, ubuntu ships ndiswrapper -- no need to compile it
[11:45] <PsyBort> can u help me compile it pls.
[11:45] <lastnode> Seveas, REALLY?
[11:45] <lastnode> shit
[11:45] <lastnode> so all i have to do is copy my .inf files?
[11:45] <Seveas> PsyBort, why? You don't need to...
[11:45] <vinboy123> Seveas: boot time
[11:46] <Seveas> lastnode, .inf and accompanying .sys or .dll or whatever
[11:46] <seee> anyone use devilspie?
[11:46] <Seveas> vinboy123, make a script from it in /etc/init.d and link it from /etc/rcS.d
[11:46] <lastnode> Seveas, just installing ubuntu, ill be done in a few mins
[11:46] <PsyBort> so how do i run ndiswrapper in order to isntall the xp drivers?
[11:47] <lastnode> hope you'll still be around to trouble shoot :)
[11:48] <PsyBort> hello
[11:48] <[Chameleon] > Madpilot: is RW  NTFS safe?
[11:48] <njan> [Chameleon] , no.
[11:48] <[Chameleon] > k
[11:49] <vinboy123> ok.. thanks
[11:49] <[Chameleon] > so when I get pissed at windows, I'll just remount it RW and have some fun.
[11:49] <[Chameleon] > :P
[11:49] <Seveas> lastnode, probably not, I'm late for work already :)
[11:49] <Seveas> [Chameleon] , you can't even mount it RW :)
[11:50] <Seveas> PsyBort, apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[11:50] <Seveas> echo ndiswrapper | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[11:50] <Seveas> modprobe ndiswrapper
[11:51] <Seveas> ndiswrapper -m
[11:51] <[Chameleon] > Seveas: so it is... well, I'll just use the old fashioned dd if=/dev/null
[11:51] <Seveas> ndiswrapper -i [inf file] 
[11:51] <Seveas> done :)
[11:51] <Seveas> [Chameleon] , mkfs can do damage to it too :)
[11:51] <nalioth> [Chameleon] : please watch your language, we have impressionable youths in here
[11:51] <[Chameleon] > Seveas: damage? it's already damaged! mkfs.ext3 will just fix it.
[11:51] <meko> how can i install an Epson Lq300 printer ?
[11:51] <[Chameleon] > nalioth: :)
[11:52] <Madpilot> !printers
[11:52] <ubotu> I guess printers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[11:53] <Madpilot> meko: see above ^^^
[11:54] <Madpilot> good night/morning/whatever, everyone. I need sleep...
[11:55] <alexandros_> are there any applications for running browsing NTFS directories?
[11:55] <zorba64> fluffybunny_: sudo apt-get install qalculate - converts anything to anything
[11:55] <alexandros_> my windows crashed during when I was trying to use partition magic
[11:55] <[Chameleon] > alexandros: listen to the ubotu message I just sent you
[11:55] <fluffybunny_> zorba64: cool - thanks
[11:56] <[Chameleon] > bah
[11:56] <Cryptid> I have gnutel, nicotine & Direct connect are they ne more good P2P applicatios
[11:56] <[Chameleon] > did you get anything alexandros_?
[11:56] <alexandros_> Chambers-, is the thing I need called qalculate?
[11:56] <[Chameleon] > no
[11:57] <aftertaf> Cryptid:  try and make your own opinion... type p2p in synaptic, see what else there is.
[11:57] <zorba64> fluffybunny_: bit of a learning curve tho...sheesh
[11:57] <fluffybunny_> zorba64: :)
[11:58] <Seveas> Cryptid, mldonkey
[11:58] <Cryptid> aftertaf, i tried that and came with the applications that i metioned above. Arnt there ne more Applications
[11:58] <[Chameleon] > alexandros_: YW
[11:58] <aftertaf> why do you need 50 ways of doing the same thing ??
[11:58] <nalioth> Cryptid: make sure you have your client auto identify you when you join, so you dont end up in robot gaol again
[11:58] <[Chameleon] > alexandros_: may the schwartz be with you
[11:58] <Cryptid> ok is mldonkey good to get Vids
[11:58] <aftertaf> lol nalioth
[11:58] <Cryptid> Nalioth thanx
[11:59] <zorba64> fluffybunny_: ah., the units button is the key.......
[11:59] <aftertaf> Cryptid:  you'll find that p2p best usage isn't really a topic for ubuntu official help channel.
[11:59] <deFrysk> Cryptid, try pan and download binaries from the newsgroups
[11:59] <aftertaf> no hard feelings... but. :)
[12:00] <nalioth> aftertaf: invite him to -offtopic and teach him your evil ways
[12:00] <aftertaf> hehe nalioth :)
[12:00] <Cryptid> aftertaf, its ok
[12:00] <aftertaf> Cryptid:  true there is #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[12:01] <Seveas-RIAA> aftertaf, you're busted!
[12:02] <meko> it doesnt support epson lq300 printer
[12:02] <meko> what should i do ?
[12:03] <Stalwart> google
[12:03] <az[a] zel> hey that pppoeconf program just fork bombed me, and I had to hard reset!
[12:04] <aftertaf> az[a] zel:  couldve been the RIAA man. hide! ;)
[12:07] <Cryptid> How do i play .m4a files
[12:07] <lastnode> Cryptid, the extension matters very little
[12:07] <lastnode> it's the codec you should look at
[12:08] <lastnode> i think mplayer pretty much does everything
[12:08] <Cryptid> which codecs should i get
[12:08] <Cryptid> i have Gstream installed
[12:08] <Cryptid> i dunno if that is even a codec or no
[12:08] <lastnode> Cryptid, i wouldn't know - your software should tell you that
[12:08] <lastnode> im sorry, im a linux newbie too, just said what i knew
[12:08] <Cryptid> ok
[12:09] <Echelon-H> what's the difference between preview release and final?
[12:09] <Echelon-H> and will I be able to just sudo apt-get update and it will update?
[12:10] <Cryptid> thoreauputic, what codecs do i need to be able to play .m4a and .rm files
[12:11] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: I don't know about .m4a - .rm would be handled by the w32codecs package I would think
[12:11] <thoreauputic> !codecs
[12:11] <ubotu> I heard codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:11] <nalioth> Cryptid: gstreamer0.8-mp4 i believe, but let me look
[12:11] <lastnode> thoreauputic, any experience working with ndis?
[12:11] <lastnode> [Chameleon] , ping
[12:12] <[Chameleon] > pong
[12:12] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: you need the hoary-extras repo at the bottome of that page ^^
[12:12] <thoreauputic> lastnode: no, sorry
[12:12] <lastnode> does ubuntu ship with a wifi scanning program?
[12:12] <[Chameleon] > lastnode: I haven't got ndiswrapper working in ubuntu yet
[12:12] <[Chameleon] > iwlist
[12:12] <lastnode> [Chameleon] , i just need syntax
[12:12] <lastnode> iwlist ships?
[12:12] <Cryptid> can i have gStream and and w32codecs installed together
[12:12] <[Chameleon] > think so
[12:12] <[Chameleon] > try the iw* progs
[12:13] <[Chameleon] > iwconfig
[12:13] <zorba64> Cryptid: yup
[12:13] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: yes
[12:13] <[Chameleon] > iwconfig  iwevent   iwgetid   iwlist    iwpriv    iwspy
[12:13] <nalioth> how do you search extras?
[12:13] <Cryptid> cool i will get it now
[12:14] <zorba64> nalioth: usual way sudo apt-cache search
[12:15] <nalioth> zorba64: i was thinking of a web portal method
[12:18] <lastnode> will apt-get work w/o a net connection?
[12:18] <nalioth> lastnode: yes, with a cd
[12:18] <nalioth> lastnode: a properly setup cd
[12:19] <nalioth> lastnode: like a breezy install disk
[12:19] <lastnode> nalioth : these instructions
[12:19] <lastnode> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:19] <lastnode> This will install neccessery packages for the compilation, after you write your password.
[12:19] <lastnode> the problem is, im doing this to get my wifi card installed
[12:19] <lastnode> i dont have net!
[12:21] <thoreauputic> lastnode: build-essential is on the CD, the headers you might have to get "manually" from archive.ubuntu.com
[12:22] <Cryptid> what does this do "wget http://download.ubuntuforums.org/ubuntusetup/ubuntusetup.sh "sudo sh ubuntusetup.sh"
[12:22] <lastnode> also
[12:22] <lastnode> it didnt ask me for a root password during setup
[12:22] <lastnode> is there a default?
[12:22] <Fred|Fr3d> lastnode: it doesnt
[12:22] <thoreauputic> !root
[12:22] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:22] <Fred|Fr3d> lastnode: just login using the username and pass u gave it, and change the root pass. or dont use root.
[12:23] <lastnode> Fred|Fr3d, some commands need root right?
[12:23] <prolsd> that's why you do 'sudo' (do as super user)
[12:23] <Fred|Fr3d> u can use sudo
[12:23] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: it's a script to set up extra stuff - personally I wouldn't trust it any further than the end of my nose but YMMV
[12:23] <Fred|Fr3d> or even, 'SuperUserDO (as)'
[12:24] <prolsd> it will probably prompt you for a password when you do so, it's the same password you gave it for your own username.
[12:24] <prolsd> hehh Fred.
[12:24] <klepas> moin
[12:25] <lastnode> so.
[12:25] <lastnode> sudo mount /mnt/hda1 should work?
[12:25] <prolsd> try :D
[12:25] <klepas> !info gaim
[12:25] <ubotu> gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 825 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB
[12:26] <klepas> !info xchat
[12:26] <ubotu> xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.1-0.1ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 248 kB, Installed size: 672 kB
[12:26] <klepas> mmh
[12:26] <prolsd> !info amsn
[12:26] <thoreauputic> klepas: if you want to ask the bot stuff you can use /msg ubotu <blah>
[12:26] <ubotu> amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB
[12:27] <Cryptid> Which is better Rhythem Box, XMMS or BMP
[12:27] <Cryptid> ?
[12:27] <klepas> thoreauputic: what's the reason?
[12:27] <klepas> I prefer Rhythmbox
[12:27] <klepas> rather elegant app.
[12:27] <thoreauputic> klepas: just telling you in case you want to ask a lot of stuff :)
[12:27] <klepas> ohh
[12:27] <klepas> what's the command difference?
[12:28] <lastnode> someone - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[12:28] <thoreauputic> klepas: none really except you don't need to use !
[12:28] <thoreauputic> klepas: if you use /msg ubotu it doesn't appear in the channel
[12:28] <klepas> oh
[12:28] <klepas> thanks :-)
[12:29] <yellowrose> hi! I have a CD writer. What can I use to burn CDs. I tried graveman but it won't allow me to create data CDs.  I can only dubplicate CDs
[12:29] <thoreauputic> np :)
[12:29] <bimberi> yellowrose, nautilus (the file manager) will burn data CDs
[12:30] <thoreauputic> yellowrose: you can make data CDs with nautilus - just type burn:/// in the location bar and drag stuff there, then hit the button
[12:30] <thoreauputic> or right click  file, burn it to CD
[12:31] <yellowrose> thanks very much. i'll try it.
[12:31] <hiux> can xcdroast do that?
[12:31] <hiux> i dont want to install nautilus
[12:31] <thoreauputic> hiux: nautilus is installed by default
[12:32] <bimberi> hiux, it comes with the basic install, or did you do something else?
[12:32] <thoreauputic> hiux: unless you did a custom install
[12:32] <thoreauputic> hiux: it's the file manager
[12:32] <onkarshinde> can anyone point me to the script that automatically modifies fstab for all non linux partitions?
[12:32] <hiux> i just install the ubuntu base
[12:32] <hiux> and xfce is my X
[12:32] <bimberi> ubotu tell onkarshinde about ntfs
[12:32] <nalioth> !tell onkarshinde about ntfs
[12:33] <thoreauputic> !tell onkarshinde about mountwindows
[12:33] <bimberi> yay - i won!
[12:33] <thoreauputic> heh :)
[12:33] <bimberi> well, from here anyway :)
[12:33] <onkarshinde> thanks guys. It is three times what i needed
[12:33] <Cryptid> What is a Ritalin?
[12:33] <bimberi> Cryptid, a drug for treating ADHD
[12:33] <onkarshinde> nalioth: your command didn't work
[12:33] <nalioth> Cryptid: a drug for hyperactive people
[12:34] <thoreauputic> Cryptid: it's ubotu's way of saying you asked something he has no factoid for :)
[12:34] <nalioth> onkarshinde: you must have a msg from ubotu with your answer
[12:34] <bimberi> onkarshinde, ubotu is smart enough to know that you had been told that already
[12:35] <thoreauputic> :D
[12:35] <onkarshinde> I got message from uboutu with references of bimberi and thoreauputic but not from nalioth
[12:35] <yellowrose> what is the equivalent of hyperterm in Ubuntu? how do I use it?
[12:35] <bimberi> gawd, not again, first it was the usher's torch beam
[12:35] <nalioth> onkarshinde: read what bimberi told you above
[12:35] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: because ubotu knew the answer had already been given
[12:36] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: Got it. bimberi was telling about ntfs while you about mountwindows. Although both are same I received two separate messages.
[12:36] <thoreauputic> ;)
[12:37] <bimberi> rolling rolling rolling ...
[12:37] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: right, separate triggers, same info
[12:38] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde: ubotu isn't quite that smart ;-)
[12:38] <dazvid> well ubotu needs to learn a lesson then... *grabs whip*
[12:38] <thoreauputic> !lart dazvid
[12:39] <dazvid> >:)
[12:39] <thoreauputic> dazvid: too late ;)
[12:39] <dazvid> lol
[12:39] <dazvid> He is so loveable, I couldn't whip him/her/it
[12:40] <Red_Bullet> can you help me for mp3blaster
[12:40] <thoreauputic> !good bot
[12:40] <ubotu> thanks thoreauputic :)
[12:40] <Red_Bullet> why when one mp3 end i must manualy start next
[12:40] <nalioth> !botsnack
[12:40] <ubotu> :)
[12:40] <catfox> out of interest how much does it cost to register patent?
[12:40] <onkarshinde> can anyone explain me how are these messages with *** generated?
[12:41] <Red_Bullet> !mp3blaster
[12:41] <ubotu> I don't know, Red_Bullet
[12:41] <thoreauputic> onkarshinde:  /me does something
[12:41] <Red_Bullet> !tell Red_Bullet about mp3blaster
[12:41] <Red_Bullet> :(
[12:41] <Red_Bullet> help me
[12:41] <Red_Bullet> please
[12:41] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: if he doesn't know, he doesn't know
[12:41] <mahangu> ok
[12:42] <mahangu> i can do apt get now
[12:42] <onkarshinde> thoreauputic: Thanks
[12:42] <mahangu> on lan
[12:42] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: if someone knows, they will help
[12:42] <mahangu> !wifi
[12:42] <ubotu> wifi is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[12:42] <Red_Bullet> :(
[12:42] <yellowrose> Hello again! What is the equivalent of hyperterm in Ubuntu? We need to download data from PABX.
[12:42] <Red_Bullet> tell me about other programs for music
[12:42] <Red_Bullet> in console
[12:43] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: cplay
[12:43] <nalioth> Red_Bullet: cplay is the king
[12:43] <bimberi> yellowrose, for serial port access? - minicom
[12:44] <Red_Bullet> when i start one mp3 cplay tell player not found
[12:44] <Red_Bullet> why
[12:44] <Red_Bullet> ??
[12:44] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: you can also play a whole directory of mp3 with   ' mpg123 * ' in the directory, for example
[12:45] <yellowrose> Thanks bimberi. I'll install it.
[12:45] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: see if /etc/libao.conf is set to something sensible,  and install either mpg321 or mpg123
[12:45] <Red_Bullet> mpg123 command not found
[12:45] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: so install it
[12:45] <thoreauputic> it's a program
[12:45] <thoreauputic> !info mpg123
[12:45] <ubotu> mpg123: (MPEG layer 1/2/3 audio player), section multiverse/sound, is optional. Version: 0.59r-19 (hoary), Packaged size: 85 kB, Installed size: 256 kB
[12:46] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: in multiverse repo
[12:46] <mahangu> after i install
[12:46] <Red_Bullet> mpg is other than cplay ?
[12:46] <mahangu> how do i use iwconfig
[12:46] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: cplay is a console front end for players like mpg321 mpg123 or ogg123
[12:46] <nalioth> guillem101: welcome out of bot gaol
[12:47] <nige> I have checked my nat
[12:47] <nige> I have tried legal torrents
[12:47] <nige> my pc still doesnt / cant download files
[12:47] <guillem101> nalioth, how do I setup xchat to identify automatically?
[12:47] <mahangu> guillem101, its in optiond for each server
[12:47] <Nikopol> guillem101, there's a place you can plave yoru password
[12:48] <Nikopol> Ctrl+S
[12:48] <Nikopol> then edit the server
[12:48] <guillem101> but where??
[12:48] <Red_Bullet> This version of mpg321 has been configured with the libao default as its defaultlibao output device.
[12:48] <nige> my health indicators are on blue or read
[12:48] <Red_Bullet> when i start mpg123
[12:48] <thoreauputic> guillem101: in the server dialogue
[12:48] <nige> red if they go green
[12:48] <nige> whoosp
[12:48] <nalioth> guillem101: in the server dialog, choose freenode (if it's not already chosen) and click on options
[12:48] <looksaus> hi all... small question about mail, tasks and schedules in evolution
[12:48] <guillem101> Oh! I see, thanks to all of you
[12:48] <nalioth> guillem101: you can put your password in the "server password" box
[12:49] <Red_Bullet> what driver i type in libao.conf
[12:49] <Red_Bullet> ?
[12:49] <looksaus> we have a small office with 3 pc's
[12:49] <looksaus> plus one laptop and a mobile worker
[12:49] <guillem101> amazing
[12:49] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: in /etc/libao.conf , try setting alsa or oss
[12:49] <guillem101> Any LyX guru here?
[12:49] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: possibly esd (haven't tried that)
[12:50] <guillem101> I don't fully understand how does revision control work at LyX.
[12:50] <looksaus> I'm exploring the possibilities for setting up a low maintenance system for sharing tasks
[12:50] <looksaus> any suggestions?
[12:50] <mahangu> how do i use iwconfig?
[12:50] <J`> What should I do when Ubuntu freezes and it stops to respond to any activities; can I do smth except restarting?
[12:50] <Red_Bullet> it didnt start
[12:51] <aftertaf> poxy proxy :(
[12:51] <onkarshinde> J`: Yes. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[12:51] <nalioth> J`: if you have another box on the network, you can try to ssh into the frozen one and see what is hung up
[12:51] <onkarshinde> nalioth: Don't you think you are asking for too much.
[12:52] <Red_Bullet> how can i tell to cplay for mpg123
[12:52] <bimberi> yellowrose, I've just had a quick look at "gtkterm" and it might be worth a try if minicom isn't fulfilling the need :)
[12:52] <onkarshinde> nalioth: Obviously he is new to linus since he doesn't know any other way than restart to make things right
[12:52] <nalioth> onkarshinde: i answered his question
[12:53] <J`> damn
[12:53] <nalioth> J`: did i answer your question properly?
[12:53] <Nikopol> guillem101, I used to write with LyX but the best move I ever made was switch to hard-coded latex
[12:53] <J`> i didnt manage to read the second respond.
[12:53] <Red_Bullet> i play with cplay
[12:53] <Red_Bullet> but how can i volume UP
[12:53] <Red_Bullet> ?
[12:53] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: hmm - try installing mpg321 instead - apt-cache show cplay lists that as an alternative
[12:53] <onkarshinde> nalioth: Yes you did. But i don't suppose it should be easy for him to do ssh and see what is frozen.
[12:53] <J`> nalioth,  What happens when ubuntu is responding and i press the buttons?
[12:54] <nalioth> J`: you might try to ctrl-alt-f3 and see if you can gain a login console
[12:54] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: also while you are at it install ogg123
[12:54] <Red_Bullet> thoreauputic: i play music with cplay
[12:54] <J`> is there anything similiar to task manager in windows OSes?
[12:54] <Red_Bullet> but how to volume um
[12:54] <Red_Bullet> up[
[12:54] <Red_Bullet> volume up
[12:54] <Nikopol> I'm not sure lyx is really ready for the big time and latex may be  a bit of a sharp learning curve but should pay off in the long term. guillem101
[12:54] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: for help in cplay, type ? while it is open
[12:54] <nalioth> J`: if it is responding when you press the buttons, you should continue as normal
[12:54] <guillem101> Nikopol, I'm not at that stage ;-P
[12:54] <Nikopol> guillem101, you will be soon ;)
[12:54] <nalioth> applications > system tools > system monitor
[12:55] <Red_Bullet> what to type thoreauputic
[12:55] <guillem101> Nikopol, LyX is enough good for me...
[12:55] <guillem101> good enough
[12:55] <Nikopol> guillem101, fair enough :)
[12:55] <Nikopol> you got the password sorted ?
[12:55] <J`> nalioth, well, it logged out when i pressed..
[12:55] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: sorry, type "h" for help
[12:55] <Red_Bullet> no problm
[12:55] <Red_Bullet> 10x
[12:55] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: that will give you the keybindings
[12:55] <AGRAV8> can someone tell me how create boot floppies for ubuntu?
[12:56] <onkarshinde> AGRAV8: Did you try mkbootdisk `uname -r`. It worked with redhat
[12:56] <Tomcat_> "mkboot"
[12:56] <AGRAV8> no i dont know any commands yet, but i will try. thanks
[12:56] <AGRAV8> do i have to be root
[12:57] <onkarshinde> !bootdisk
[12:57] <ubotu> onkarshinde: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[12:57] <onkarshinde> AGRAV8: I am not sure
[12:57] <Tomcat_> But a regular Ubuntu kernel is 1.2 MB... not much left on a regular floppy.
[12:58] <onkarshinde> Tomcat_: Does it matter? He won't use that floppy for any other purpose.
[12:58] <AGRAV8> is SU not the correct command in ubuntu to become root?
[12:58] <CaiN_SA> bob2, are you in ?
[12:58] <thoreauputic> !tell AGRAV8 about root
[12:58] <CaiN_SA> !updatedb
[12:58] <ubotu> CaiN_SA: Are you smoking crack?
[12:58] <Tomcat_> onkarshinde: Well I'm not expert for boot disks... is a disk with the kernel enough to do anything? I'd like at least a basic init + bash on there...
[12:59] <nalioth> AGRAV8: open a terminal and type "man grub" see the part about making boot floppies
[12:59] <thoreauputic> AGRAV8: also note that SU is not a valid command in linux - it would be su (case sensitive)
[12:59] <AGRAV8> i will be specific about what i am trying to do. i am trying to install ubuntu on a fujitsu tablet pc. the bios will not allow cd boot, so i need to be able to access USB cdrom
[01:00] <AGRAV8> thoreauputic , noted thanks
[01:00] <thoreauputic> :)
[01:00] <onkarshinde> Tomcat_: I suppose he is asking for only alternate method to boot Ubuntu in case MBR is over written by some evil (read as Windows)
[01:01] <Tomcat_> onkarshinde: That should work then, right. :)
[01:01] <AGRAV8> i have a windows drive, i also have another drive that i want to dedicate to ubuntu. ever since installing ubuntu on one of the desktop drives, i really want to get away from windows
[01:02] <onkarshinde> Tomcat_: I suppose I am wrong.
[01:02] <AGRAV8> :) , i dont want to wipe out the windows drive as it is such a pain to put an OS on this tablet
[01:03] <azvareth> Hi!
[01:03] <AGRAV8> i guess i need someone to tell me what will work. i have tried several different boot disks and none has achieved my goal of putting ubuntu on the tablet from a USB cd rom
[01:04] <nalioth> AGRAV8: grub has a command to install itself to a floppy
[01:04] <cef> AGRAV8: do you have a floppy drive?
[01:04] <nalioth> AGRAV8: "man grub" will tell you
[01:04] <lastnode> what is the ndiswrapper syntax?
[01:04] <AGRAV8> yes, the floppy drive is seen by bios and is bootable
[01:04] <AGRAV8> man grub has many options . i am pretty new to linux so i really dont understand the commands
[01:05] <sjj> Is there any ubuntu repositories more up to date than the universe ones?
[01:05] <sjj> s/Is/Are/
[01:05] <Nikopol> the backports sjj
[01:06] <Nikopol> you got them?
[01:06] <AGRAV8> what is the correct command to become root?
[01:06] <sjj> backports?
[01:06] <Tomcat_> AGRAV8: sudo -i
[01:06] <AGRAV8> tomcat , thanks
[01:06] <Nikopol> sjj, it's some repositories that are run by the ubuntuforums
[01:06] <Nikopol> I'll get you a link to a post on them
[01:06] <sjj> Nikopol: thanks
[01:06] <cef> AGRAV8: actually, you have windows on there?
[01:06] <Nikopol> sjj, http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[01:07] <sjj> Nikopol: Can I point my sources.list at the debian unstable repositories?
[01:07] <AGRAV8> cef , no.i have another drive i want to put ubuntu on :)
[01:07] <Nikopol> you can but it's no longer recommended
[01:07] <thoreauputic> sjj: don't
[01:07] <topyli> how do you bind commands like "print" or "paste" to a custom keyboard shortcut? in gnome? in OO.o?
[01:07] <Nikopol> backports is a better option
[01:07] <cef> AGRAV8: bugger.. I was going to suggest https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/FromWindows
[01:07] <Nikopol> and the debian can break your system
[01:07] <sjj> Nikopol: i'll have a look. thanks
[01:07] <AGRAV8> cef , i am afraid of messing up the windows installation. so i bought another HDD
[01:08] <Nikopol> sjj,  you on Hoary I assume?
[01:08] <Red_Bullet> how to set shuffle in mp3blaster
[01:08] <cef> AGRAV8: fair enuff
[01:09] <nalioth> AGRAV8: i dont have a x86 system, so i can't help you, perhaps someone else could do a "grub --help" and find the option?
[01:09] <cef> AGRAV8: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto then
[01:09] <AGRAV8>   cef , whats messing me up is the tablet doesn't allow boot from cd (fujitsu infinite wisdom)
[01:09] <sjj> Nikopol: warty actually :\
[01:09] <Nikopol> oh http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[01:09] <cef> AGRAV8: SmartBootManager only requires a floppy
[01:09] <Nikopol> ok ignore that post
[01:09] <sjj> Nikopol: will doing a dist-upgrade upgrade me to hoary?
[01:10] <Nikopol> if you change the sources to hoary
[01:10] <AGRAV8> cef, i tried smartbootmanager earlier and failed. :(
[01:10] <sjj> ahh, right.
[01:10] <Nikopol> i.e. in /etc/apt/souces.list
[01:10] <Nikopol> replace every occurence of warty with hoary
[01:10] <Nikopol> you on ADSL?
[01:10] <sjj> yeah.
[01:10] <cef> AGRAV8: erk.. ok.. then no idea.. as if it fails, I don't think grub will help you
[01:11] <AGRAV8> it started up, but did not see the usb cd-rom
[01:11] <^rob^> hi
[01:11] <Nikopol> sjj,  ok u should b fine then
[01:11] <^rob^> does anyone use docbook to create documents?
[01:11] <Nikopol> takes a while though
[01:11] <Nikopol> sjg,  have to go now but best of luck!
[01:13] <cef> AGRAV8: can you see the USB cdrom from dos?
[01:13] <AGRAV8> cef , well bios cannot see it if that is what you mean
[01:14] <AGRAV8> a year or so ago i had friend from a smart guy who managed to install xp on the tablet using a bootdisk to see the usb cdrom
[01:15] <aftertaf> loooool
[01:15] <klex> is it possible to add a single song to rhytmbox medialibrary, or just directorys? I have a directory with single mp3s, and when i coopy a new song in it i have to get it into my medialibrary
[01:16] <hettar> hello
[01:16] <cef> AGRAV8: then you'd probably need the drivers off that floppy for a start.. but I still think it's unlikely
[01:17] <AGRAV8> i wish i still had that floppy
[01:17] <hettar> I'm trying out ubuntu breezy (coming from kubuntu) and I'm trying to import all my email into evolution. Can anyone point me to where evolution stores the email diriectories
[01:19] <aftertaf> hettar:  try lokking in /home/username/.evolution  (at a guess)
[01:19] <deFrysk> hettar, wise decision to switch to ubuntu :)
[01:19] <cef> AGRAV8: is there a network card in that tablet?
[01:20] <AGRAV8> there is in the docking station
[01:20] <AGRAV8> the bios supports PXE but i know nothing about it
[01:20] <cef> AGRAV8: sounds about the only way you'll get stuff on it
[01:21] <AGRAV8> cef, how do i use PXE?
[01:21] <hettar> deFrysk, well I thought I would give it a try. I still like KDE but since I haven't tried gnome for ages I thought I would give it a trial run again
[01:21] <cef> AGRAV8: not used it much myself. all I can do it point you to the netboot install howto at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[01:21] <aftertaf> PXE is booting from NIC to install OS.
[01:21] <deFrysk> hettar, gnome is easyer on the eyes I think , more relaxed
[01:21] <AGRAV8> cef , thanks i will read it
[01:23] <vermyndax> mornin all
[01:24] <aftertaf> [relative part of the day]  to you too vermyndax :D
[01:24] <vermyndax> hehehhe
[01:24] <zorba64> vermyndax: evenin to you
[01:25] <vermyndax> heh it would be nice if my wednesday were over with
[01:26] <cef> it'd be nice if I could manage to finish downloading packages so that I could get to breezy without the update manager deciding to update the package list and then think there is more packages to download *sigh*
[01:27] <Bateau_> how come i cant connect to wireless connections with WEP encryption? do i need to install something extra to do so? i typed in the encryption key in the wireless config thingy, but i cant connect :/ none enrypted net works fine tho...
[01:27] <nomike> hi
[01:27] <cef> Bateau_: might depend on your wireless card
[01:27] <Bateau_> oh? depend on what?
[01:27] <Bateau_> its a internal Intel card
[01:27] <Raptoid> offical turkish ubuntu channel --> #ubuntu.tr opened
[01:28] <Raptoid> :)
[01:28] <nomike> Everytime I try to install something with apt it says "Richte apmd ein" which means something like "configuring apmd" in english...
[01:28] <humulus> kebab :)
[01:28] <vermyndax> I'm really proud of gnome... it's really come a long way
[01:28] <humulus> rox
[01:28] <nomike> and there it's stuck forever
[01:28] <Raptoid> yeah kebab
[01:28] <Raptoid> eaohdaho
[01:28] <cef> Bateau_: hrmm.. should work
[01:28] <nomike> The same when I try to remove apmd....
[01:28] <nomike> Is there a way to fix this?
[01:29] <lastnode> need some help badly - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[01:29] <Bateau_> cef: yeah, but it dosnt :( is there any other app to configure the wireless sith or something?
[01:29] <lastnode> i finished up to step6
[01:30] <lastnode> but the card wont show up in my network config
[01:30] <vermyndax> hey guys, I reported a package bug in Malone, but I don't think anyone saw it
[01:30] <klepas> The Dapper Drake, eh? :D
[01:31] <nomike> Also I tried to install breezy, but all i got after a reboot was "There is no /sbin/init" and the computer hangs...
[01:35] <G|Patrick> hi
[01:35] <G|Patrick> moin nalioth :D
[01:36] <nalioth> G|Patrick: excuse me?
[01:37] <G|Patrick> moin = hello in northern germany :/
[01:37] <G|Patrick> moin is said all around the day...
[01:37] <G|Patrick> however... details details... not important
[01:38] <nalioth> G|Patrick: ich spreche bayerische, grsstig
[01:38] <klepas> moin moin
[01:38] <after8> bof
[01:38] <G|Patrick> h3h3
[01:38] <Bateau_> cant help me cef ? :(
[01:38] <AGRAV8> i made a grub boot floppy , can i use this to boot from usb cd?
[01:39] <nalioth> AGRAV8: sure you can, if you know how to make a bootable USB stick
[01:40] <AGRAV8> nalioth, i do not know how to do that. i just want (badly) to install ubuntu from usb cd-rom
[01:40] <G|Patrick> have i pay special attention if i try to delete the proprietary ati drivers?
[01:40] <nalioth> G|Patrick: if you just want video, use the VESA driver
[01:41] <nalioth> AGRAV8: i'm not familiar with bootable usb sticks
[01:41] <G|Patrick> in breezy i use now the standard driver
[01:41] <AGRAV8> nalioth, i am trying to boot from usb cd-rom. they are not the same animal ?
[01:42] <G|Patrick> which command was it to display the graphiccard confic in the terminal
[01:42] <nalioth> AGRAV8: i think you'll need to go into your tablets bios and enable usb cd booting (if the option exists)
[01:42] <nalioth> G|Patrick: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:42] <AGRAV8> nalioth, it cannot boot from usb. that is the problem
[01:42] <Bateau_> I cant connect to wireless connections with WEP encryption. do i need to install something extra to do so? i typed in the encryption key in the wireless config thingy, but i cant connect :/ none enrypted net works fine tho...
[01:43] <nalioth> AGRAV8: i'm out of ideas, then
[01:43] <Lethal-Rocks> Bateau_, I think it's something to do with only becaing able to use 40 bit and 1?? bit encryption
[01:43] <AGRAV8> nalioth, ok. thanks for the help
[01:43] <Lethal-Rocks> being*
[01:43] <G|Patrick> welll now there is something weired
[01:43] <G|Patrick> glxinfo says that a sgi graphicadapter is used
[01:43] <Lethal-Rocks> Bateau_, I've had the same problem
[01:44] <G|Patrick> xorg.conf says its "ati" thats used
[01:44] <G|Patrick> who is right?
[01:44] <Bateau_> oh? what did you do then Lethal-Rocks?
[01:44] <Lethal-Rocks> Both probably
[01:44] <Lethal-Rocks> Bateau_, I haven't fixed it due t another problem
[01:44] <Lethal-Rocks> Bateau_, You could allways use WPA
[01:44] <Bateau_> i cant use WPA either :/
[01:45] <Lethal-Rocks> Bateau_, Same here
[01:45] <G|Patrick> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2177 <-- glxinfo
[01:45] <Lethal-Rocks> Bateau_, Well, it's only because of mum's work laptop that I can't
[01:45] <_tester_> what is WPA ?
[01:46] <G|Patrick> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2178 <--- xorg.con
[01:46] <G|Patrick> conf
[01:46] <topyli> can i somehow remap the keycode for "ctrl-s" to "XF86Save"?
[01:46] <topyli> i happen so have such buttons on this keyboard
[01:47] <ds[de] > _tester_ a wlan encryption, stronger than wep
[01:47] <Kuolio> OMG people
[01:48] <reiki> time to go to work... see y'all in a bit
[01:48] <Kuolio> there is this post in the forums, from Mark Shuttleworth, about the name of breezy+1... it's going to be The Dapper Drake :DD
[01:49] <G|Patrick> nobody has an idea whats wron here?
[01:49] <reiki> a duck?
[01:49] <Kuolio> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65532
[01:49] <reiki> ok... gone...
[01:50] <Lethal-Rocks> Does Anybody know why my whole PC locks up occaisionally when I enable or change properties of my Wireless LAN Keychain? (RT2570-based)
[01:50] <Lethal-Rocks> I mean, it does it as soon as I do it, but not allways
[01:54] <G|Patrick> crap... i cant figure it out :(
[01:54] <G|Patrick> i reconfigured xserv agaiin
[01:54] <Fred|Fr3d> Is there a way I can make my harddisks turn off after an amount of inactiviy?
[01:54] <nalioth> rikai: please turn that off
[01:54] <G|Patrick> instead of "ati" listet bei glxinfo
[01:54] <G|Patrick> it still says sgi
[01:54] <rikai> ...
[01:54] <G|Patrick> and the fglrx driver doesnt work either
[01:55] <rikai> nalioth: err, lemme set myself back then, and it'll be off :E
[01:55] <rikai> there :E
[01:55] <snuffkin> Hi. 5.04x86, seem to be missing /dev/sequencer, googling told me to use /dev/MAKEDEV to create it, the script exists, but I don't really know how to use it..?
[01:55] <apokryphos> rikai: yes, join/part/away messages like that can get annoying
[01:55] <nalioth> rikai: dont let seveas see that, he doesnt have the patience for it
[01:55] <Fred|Fr3d> how do i make my HDs power down after not being used for X minutes?
[01:55] <rikai> nalioth: sorry, i apologize x_x;
[01:57] <Lethal-Rocks> Fred|Fr3d, You BIOS should have that setting
[01:57] <Fred|Fr3d> yeh it probably does but is there no software way of doing it like windows does? i dont wanna have to reboot my server really... :(
[01:57] <Lethal-Rocks> I dunno
[01:58] <vermyndax> is there a webpage that lists the default packages used in a server install of breezy?
[01:58] <G|Patrick> !compiling
[01:58] <G|Patrick> !compile
[01:58] <ubotu> compile is, like, totally, tar -zxvf tarball, cd blah, ./configure, make, make install or install by hand  Ask me about <compiling>
[01:58] <G|Patrick> !how to compile
[01:58] <ubotu> Not a clue, G|Patrick
[01:58] <apokryphos> G|Patrick: please don't investigate with the bot in here. =)
[01:59] <G|Patrick> ok
[01:59] <G|Patrick> can u tell me how i compile the amarok 1.3.1
[01:59] <G|Patrick> so that i get a debian package?
[01:59] <apokryphos> G|Patrick: if there is one, yes, but I doubt there is, it's just come out...
[01:59] <Lethal-Rocks> G|Patrick, You could get it from the repos
[01:59] <G|Patrick> no...
[01:59] <Lethal-Rocks> G|Patrick, Oh, I see :P
[02:00] <apokryphos> Lethal-Rocks: which one has it?
[02:00] <G|Patrick> even on amarok.kde.org i find a debian package
[02:00] <G|Patrick> for v1.3.0
[02:00] <apokryphos> G|Patrick: then compile. Get the tarball and check the README file
[02:00] <G|Patrick> apokryphos: i am a noob
[02:00] <apokryphos> There are packages around for 1.3, I believe.
[02:00] <apokryphos> !amarok1.3
[02:00] <ubotu> I guess amarok1.3 is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=304006&postcount=54
[02:00] <G|Patrick> i have no idea where to start
[02:01] <G|Patrick> ok :)
[02:01] <AGRAV8> I managed to et my USB CD-ROM working. I have the ubuntu CD in the drive, what do i type to get the thing installing?
[02:02] <johnnybezak> hey guys
[02:02] <nalioth> AGRAV8: is it at the ubuntu boot screen?
[02:02] <nalioth> AGRAV8: if so, just hit enter
[02:02] <G|Patrick> wait
[02:02] <AGRAV8> nalioth, no i am sitting at d:
[02:02] <osfameron> Anyone know: where does /usr/dict/words live in ubuntu?
[02:02] <G|Patrick> the thread says its 1.3 beta2
[02:02] <G|Patrick> its not 1.3.1 final
[02:03] <AGRAV8> nalioth, i used a dos usb boot floppy
[02:03] <apokryphos> G|Patrick: the post there is 1.3 final
[02:03] <Makako> Hey guys
[02:03] <apokryphos> hi
[02:03] <_tester_> thanks ds-de
[02:03] <G|Patrick> 1.3.1 or 1.3?
[02:03] <snuffkin> Hm. After some fiddling I've run /dev/MAKEDEV audio as root, but I still haven't got /dev/sequencer..? 'no such file or dir'
[02:03] <apokryphos> G|Patrick: 1.3, as I said. Not sure if a 1.3.1 has been added
[02:03] <Makako> I'm writing an article on Ubuntu for a German journal and have a question
[02:03] <apokryphos> fire away
[02:03] <G|Patrick> apokryphos: the link given there doesnwork
[02:04] <wezzer> !beagle
[02:04] <ubotu> beagle is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto
[02:04] <G|Patrick> got a time out for the amarok binary
[02:04] <Red_Bullet> i bind a az command c what are do to unbind
[02:04] <nalioth> AGRAV8: you'll need to find a computer with a cdrom drive and a floppy and make a grub floppy to point to the cd, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:04] <G|Patrick> !amarok1.3.1
[02:04] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, G|Patrick
[02:04] <Makako> On the homepage it says that the Ubuntu Team doesn't provide security fixes for universe. But there exists a component "universe" inside of "hoary-security".
[02:04] <G|Patrick> :/
[02:05] <Makako> What about that?
[02:05] <pitti> Makako: there are security updates
[02:05] <AGRAV8> nalioth, i tried that earlier and it didnt work, but thanks anyway !
[02:05] <r0d> any open source tools to recovery lost partitions?
[02:05] <pitti> Makako: some folks from the community fix universe occasionally
[02:05] <osfameron> /usr/share/dict/words is a link to /etc/dictionaries-common/words (which doesn't exist)
[02:05] <pitti> Makako: but they are neither complete nor quick
[02:05] <osfameron> is there a package I need to install to get a wordslist ?
[02:05] <Red_Bullet> i bind a as command c what are do to unbind
[02:06] <Makako> pitti: So the "no support" paragraph on http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components just refers to paid support?
[02:06] <Echelon-H> how can i amke things work on startup?
[02:06] <pitti> Makako: no, it refers to the fact that you must not rely on universe security updates
[02:06] <Makako> pitti: IC. Thx
[02:06] <Red_Bullet> i bind a as command c what are do to unbind
[02:06] <Red_Bullet> please help
[02:06] <Red_Bullet> i broke my linuxxx
[02:06] <apokryphos> G|Patrick: you can try the ones here if you like http://www.oculusaquilae.de/kubuntu-amarok-1.3/hoary-i386/
[02:06] <Red_Bullet> help me
[02:06] <pitti> Makako: as opposed to packages in main, where timely security updates are provided
[02:06] <Makako> pitti: That always baffled me
[02:07] <Red_Bullet> thoreauputic: help me
[02:07] <Red_Bullet> how to unbind
[02:07] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: you need to be specific - what have you done?
[02:07] <pitti> Red_Bullet: "bind" refers to what and where?
[02:07] <Red_Bullet> i type bind a c
[02:07] <G|Patrick> apokryphos: 1.3-1 != 1.3.1
[02:07] <Echelon-H> how can i amke things work on startup?
[02:07] <Red_Bullet> and now when i type a i hear beep
[02:07] <Red_Bullet> from computer
[02:07] <Red_Bullet> :(
[02:07] <apokryphos> G|Patrick: err, thanks, I know. I told you there likely isn't a 1.3.1 deb anywhere.
[02:08] <thoreauputic> haha - sorry
[02:08] <Bateau_> Echelon-H: http://ubuntuguide.org/#runprogramsstartupgnome
[02:08] <helloyo> i have an external harddrive connected, which i can't mount, and doesn't show up anywhere, any help?
[02:08] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: why did you type that?
[02:08] <G|Patrick> apokryphos: why not?
[02:08] <Red_Bullet> because i want to try bind
[02:08] <apokryphos> G|Patrick: because it *just* came out.
[02:08] <pitti> helloyo: please open a bug and follow the debugging steps at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingRemovableDevices
[02:08] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: what for?
[02:09] <Red_Bullet> oooo i dont know
[02:09] <Red_Bullet> help me please
[02:09] <apokryphos> G|Patrick: well, on the 5th I see. People are busy with breezy though
[02:09] <Red_Bullet> when i prez a or c i hear beep
[02:09] <johnnybezak> who here is using breezy? do you find the screen going dark when you have to enter an admin password *really* annoying? i don't see the point of it
[02:09] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: I just looked at " help bind" - I think you need bind -r to undo it
[02:10] <Echelon-H> Bateau_, im using xfce
[02:10] <helloyo> pitti, ok, is there a way to check what usb devices are connected?
[02:10] <G|Patrick> apokryphos: gnome 2.1.12 did that as well but can be found in breezy :(
[02:10] <Bateau_> then i cant help you :)
[02:10] <apokryphos> johnnybezak: I noticed gksudo doing that... seems unnecessary, I agree.
[02:10] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: type ' help bind " without quotes
[02:10] <pitti> helloyo: lsusb is a very basic one
[02:10] <apokryphos> G|Patrick: what?
[02:10] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: it's a bash built-in
[02:11] <Red_Bullet> oo
[02:11] <Red_Bullet> yes
[02:11] <Red_Bullet> i just
[02:11] <Red_Bullet> exit of console
[02:11] <Red_Bullet> and
[02:11] <Red_Bullet> now
[02:11] <Red_Bullet> a i s
[02:11] <Red_Bullet> :)
[02:11] <G|Patrick> gnome 2.12 sorry
[02:11] <apokryphos> Red_Bullet: please do *not* flood the channel
[02:11] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: that was incoherent
[02:11] <cef> grumbles even
[02:12] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet:   -r  keyseq         Remove the binding for KEYSEQ   <--- this is what you need I think
[02:12] <Red_Bullet> thoreauputic:  but how i can bind any button with command cd
[02:12] <Red_Bullet> ?
[02:12] <r0d> any open source tools to recover lost partitions?
[02:13] <enyc> r0d: hrrm not looked for such myself...  what do you mean ''lost partitions'' EXACTLY ?
[02:13] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: *cough* first undo what you did - and then remember not to type random commands you don't understand
[02:13] <r0d> enyc,  deleted
[02:13] <enyc> r0d: I'm preety knowledgeable about the details of partition tables and disk-translation and somehwat about vearious filesystems
[02:13] <enyc> r0d: so.. just deleted with  LINUX fdisk ? or something else?
[02:13] <r0d> cfdisk
[02:13] <Red_Bullet> ok
[02:14] <enyc> r0d: err hangon...
[02:14] <bimberi> r0d, gpart (heard of it but never used it)
[02:14] <r0d> yea
[02:14] <r0d> i use it
[02:14] <r0d> didnt know it recovered partitions
[02:15] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: if you want to make shortcuts in bash, using "alias" is a better way
[02:15] <bimberi> r0d, gpart != gparted
[02:15] <Red_Bullet> thoreauputic:  how to use alias
[02:16] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: type " help alias " and read what it says
[02:16] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: basically you add aliases to ~/.bashrc
[02:17] <Red_Bullet> thoreauputic: what to do to unbind alias
[02:17] <r0d> lol bimberi thx for the C translation
[02:17] <bimberi> r0d, :)
[02:18] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: just remove it from ~/.bashrc
[02:18] <PsyBort> HEy is Seveas still around? he was helping me before, but he didnt help.
[02:18] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: you need to read some basic stuff about Linux commands - start with http://tuxfiles.org
[02:19] <nalioth_zZz> PsyBort: ask your question
[02:19] <PsyBort> trying to install dlink dwl-g650+ but none of the ndiswrapper commands are working, just getting errors.
[02:20] <Lethal-Rocks> PsyBort, Try hunting for Linux drivers, they usually work better anyway
[02:20] <da_bon_bon> PsyBort: the router is connected to usb ?
[02:20] <G|Patrick> apokryphos: crap... dpkg fails to install ur sources
[02:20] <vermyndax> welp, time to get this day started... have a good day/night everyone
[02:20] <apokryphos> G|Patrick: can you pastebin the errors?
[02:21] <PsyBort> negative, the wireless card is in the pcmcia slot in the laptop
[02:21] <G|Patrick> the console gave them out in german
[02:21] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: example of an alias:  alias dict='dict -h test.dict.org'
[02:21] <Red_Bullet> thoreauputic:  i can't
[02:21] <Red_Bullet> unbind
[02:21] <G|Patrick> are they nevertheless useful?
[02:21] <Red_Bullet> when i type locate bashrc
[02:21] <Red_Bullet> i found 3
[02:21] <nalioth_zZz> G|Patrick: ich lesen deutch
[02:21] <Red_Bullet> results
[02:22] <G|Patrick> ok
[02:22] <Red_Bullet> and i dont know who to edit
[02:22] <Red_Bullet> and now when i type [
[02:22] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: ~/.bashrc is in your home directory
[02:22] <Red_Bullet> bash tell missing [
[02:22] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: notice the dot
[02:22] <yancheng> does anyone know how to use the spell check feature in vim??
[02:22] <G|Patrick> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2179
[02:22] <Red_Bullet> i edit with pico but cant found binding for [
[02:22] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: what are you trying to do now?
[02:22] <PsyBort> i have hunted for every driver under the sun... 8 days of frustrating torture and errors, finally i have resorted to the driver CD i got with the item, but i still cant get it running, none of the tuts are helping.
[02:23] <apokryphos> G|Patrick: well, I don't really know german, so i'll see....
[02:23] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: and stop panicking, please
[02:23] <cogumbreiro> lo all, to whom should I talk about this bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=315265
[02:23] <G|Patrick> welll its not like german
[02:23] <G|Patrick> if u read that it sounds like a word to word translation from english to german :/
[02:23] <PsyBort> REd Bullet, i understand ur frustration... do u feel like putting ur head thru a brick wall right about now???
[02:24] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: are you running as root??
[02:24] <cogumbreiro> i tried contacting seb128 but still haven't heart from him and reallly would like to create a new serpentine release (i'm it's maintainer)
[02:24] <PsyBort> i know i could pull it off and walk away happier then when i started :(
[02:24] <nalioth_zZz> G|Patrick: you run hoary or breezy?
[02:25] <G|Patrick> breezy
[02:25] <apokryphos> G|Patrick: you should have said that earlier. Those packs are for hoary.
[02:25] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: your /whois says you are running as root: that is *very* silly and you are running the risk of breaking your whole installation
[02:25] <PsyBort> if someone has a moment could they please help me... im new to linux so bare with the noob...
[02:25] <apokryphos> G|Patrick: http://www.oculusaquilae.de/kubuntu-amarok-1.3/breezy-i386/
[02:26] <nalioth_zZz> G|Patrick: you'll need to install the pkgs it's looking for (preferably from ubuntu repos)
[02:26] <nalioth_zZz> G|Patrick: well, apokryphos to the rescue
[02:26] <ompaul> PsyBort, I suggest that you contact your local lug (linux user group) because if you have that hardware one of them most likey has - they may even have documented how they dealt with it
[02:26] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: please log out of root and log in as your user
[02:26] <G|Patrick> urm... ok :)
[02:27] <nalioth_zZz> PsyBort: ask your question, if someone knows the answer, they will answer you. nagging folks isnt gonna get the question answered
[02:27] <Red_Bullet> thoreauputic:
[02:27] <Red_Bullet> i not rott
[02:27] <yancheng> how do i type \sA in vim?
[02:27] <Red_Bullet> but when i type [ it say missing
[02:27] <Red_Bullet> :(
[02:27] <apokryphos> Red_Bullet: I think you are.
[02:27] <G|Patrick> thx... new game new chances... place ur bets X-D
[02:27] <G|Patrick> noooow
[02:27] <Lethal-Rocks> Red_Bullet, I think you are too
[02:27] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: your /whois says you *are* root - why?
[02:27] <ompaul> Red_Bullet, type id and it will tell you who you are
[02:27] <Red_Bullet> because
[02:27] <nalioth_zZz> G|Patrick: nah, it'll work (and i dont speak german professionally)
[02:27] <Red_Bullet> i am
[02:27] <Red_Bullet> with another console
[02:28] <Red_Bullet> i type alias
[02:28] <Red_Bullet> in another
[02:28] <Red_Bullet> console
[02:28] <nalioth_zZz> Red_Bullet: all on one line, please
[02:28] <after8> 30 mins to breezy :D
[02:28] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: your irc client is running as root
[02:28] <ompaul> Red_Bullet, is there any            way you could put                the words on          one line          please
[02:28] <G|Patrick> no change
[02:29] <G|Patrick> still the same error
[02:29] <cef> after8: trying to do the same here.. but it's a bit slower *sigh*
[02:29] <ompaul> after8, 3 days
[02:29] <G|Patrick> a arts plugin prevents a install :/
[02:29] <russ[] > why wont a .xinitrc change my wm?
[02:29] <apokryphos> G|Patrick: you installing the libtag first, right?
[02:29] <apokryphos> G|Patrick: or, dpkg them both at the same time...
[02:29] <thoreauputic> russ[] : try ~/.xsession and choose the system session
[02:29] <Red_Bullet> what to do in alias to do [ as symbol ?
[02:30] <apokryphos> I don't really know what the error is (it's not English), so not even sure what the problem is.
[02:30] <nalioth_zZz> apokryphos: does that site have a repo for amarok1.3?
[02:30] <after8> apokryphos:  me too....
[02:30] <nalioth_zZz> apokryphos: he dosnt have the correct libs
[02:30] <russ[] > thoreauputic: what would i put in there?
[02:30] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: you seem to be doing all kinds of silly things...
[02:30] <russ[] > exec /usr/bin/asdf
[02:30] <russ[] > ?
[02:30] <apokryphos> nalioth_zZz: it has [apparently working]  debs, yes.
[02:30] <G|Patrick> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2180 <-- look at this apokryphos
[02:30] <nalioth_zZz> apokryphos: ah. ok.
[02:30] <thoreauputic> russ[] : what are you actually trying to achieve?
[02:31] <after8> Red_Bullet:  have you made [ to be an alias for a certain command?
[02:31] <russ[] > I'm trying to change my wm
[02:31] <apokryphos> G|Patrick: reasonably useless, as I don't know what it means.
[02:32] <thoreauputic> russ[] : as in, running a completely separate wm or changing metacity for something else?
[02:32] <russ[] > completly seperate
[02:32] <nalioth_zZz> G|Patrick: you must decide how much you want the amarok
[02:32] <PsyBort> ok, ill try to run this as methodically as i can....1) i was told that ubuntu has a ndiswrapper package which i need to install so i ran the following syntax  'apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils' abd it replied read-pack-list/build-depend-tree...done E: couldnt find ndiswrapper package.
[02:32] <nalioth> G|Patrick: because it will require you to overwrite some of your kde things to get it installed
[02:32] <apokryphos> G|Patrick: if you're always going to want the latest version, anyhow, you're certainly going to have to learn basics like compiling.
[02:33] <thoreauputic> russ[] : the put the wm name in ~/.xsession, and choose the system default session when you log in
[02:33] <nalioth> PsyBort: use synaptic, and enable all your repos
[02:33] <after8> PsyBort:  then try installing ndisgtk
[02:33] <nalioth> G|Patrick: apokryphos has spoken. learn to compile, and you can be on the cutting edge
[02:33] <after8> ndisgtk is in universe
[02:34] <nalioth> G|Patrick: but also, the cutting edge makes it hard to upgrade cleanly
[02:34] <liraz> I'm having a problem fscking a ext3 drive, I've tried converting it to ext2 but I'm still getting the same error!!!e2fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004) e2fsck: Filesystem has unsupported feature(s) (/dev/sdb2)
[02:34] <liraz> e2fsck: Get a newer version of e2fsck!
[02:34] <nalioth> going to bed now, honest
[02:35] <after8> hehe
[02:35] <apokryphos> 'night
[02:35] <after8> ^idem
[02:35] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet:  the symbol [ has a special meaning in bash - that's probably why you are seeing that error
[02:36] <G|Patrick> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2181 <-- no try this
[02:36] <G|Patrick> now
[02:36] <Red_Bullet> thoreauputic: type only [
[02:36] <Red_Bullet> in bash
[02:36] <Red_Bullet> and tell me what bash says ?
[02:36] <liraz> anybody?
[02:36] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: bash expects a matching closing ] 
[02:37] <after8> G|Patrick:  itds complaining about amarok-arts
[02:37] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: so don't do that
[02:37] <G|Patrick> ja... but how can i solve that?
[02:37] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: unless you know what it does
[02:37] <after8> G|Patrick:  download it and install it too, and check dependencies of both packages
[02:38] <after8> do you really need the latest versionof amarok?
[02:38] <thegreedyturtle> hey, i've got a bit of an issue, i'm currently on a windows box (g/f) but when i unplug the ethernet from her cable modem and plug it into my ubuntu computer it won't resove anything anymore
[02:38] <after8> sometimes its better to wait.
[02:38] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet:  http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/    <--- explains bash a bit
[02:38] <thegreedyturtle> (the ubuntu box that is)
[02:38] <G|Patrick> http://www.oculusaquilae.de/kubuntu-amarok-1.3/breezy-i386/ <-- there is no stuff for arts
[02:38] <G|Patrick> where should i get it?
[02:39] <after8> thegreedyturtle:  what does it say when you type ifconfig?
[02:39] <thegreedyturtle> i've tried activating/reactivating my adapter,
[02:39] <after8> paste to pastebin thegreedyturtle
[02:39] <G|Patrick> http://people.debian.org/~adeodato/packages/amarok-sarge/ <-- can i use this?
[02:39] <thegreedyturtle> heh, if i could get online with it to chat with you on the computer... catch 22 neh?
[02:39] <after8> G|Patrick:  its for sarge.... not really for use with ubuntu unless you know exactly what you are doing
[02:40] <thegreedyturtle> luckily i have an ifconfig that i did previously up when i was goofing, there's an eth1, and a lo
[02:40] <G|Patrick> after8: if i would know what i do
[02:40] <G|Patrick> i would try to compile it by myself
[02:40] <thegreedyturtle> both are up, eth1 is UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST
[02:40] <after8> thegreedyturtle:  yeah, but what does ifconfig show? do you have an eth0?   is your isp connection pppoe or ppoa ?
[02:40] <G|Patrick> but i cant even find a howto for noobs that explains how to compile amarok by myself
[02:41] <after8> thegreedyturtle:  and can you pinfg the outside?
[02:41] <apokryphos> G|Patrick: read the amarok iwki
[02:41] <thegreedyturtle> my connection is a cable modem so pppoa?
[02:41] <after8> G|Patrick:  holy trinity: ./configure , make , sudo make install...... but i'd stay on the current versio if i was you
[02:41] <thegreedyturtle> i cannot ping anything outside it
[02:41] <thegreedyturtle> pinging lo works though
[02:41] <G|Patrick> 1.2.4 lacks of features 1.3 has
[02:41] <thegreedyturtle> so it's not software
[02:42] <thegreedyturtle> ok here goes
[02:42] <thegreedyturtle> eth1
[02:42] <after8> thegreedyturtle:  not necessarity pppoa or pppoe, it depends on your ISP. and lo is loopback, means tcp/ip stack is up.
[02:42] <Earthen> how would one tell if one were getting  denile of service attack?
[02:42] <after8> thegreedyturtle:  pastebin ;)
[02:42] <apokryphos> after8: I always find it better to let them know what each part is doing; makes it more easy to remember. Though prefix is more conventional also, with configure (particularly with kde apps). ;-)
[02:42] <pluffsy> hello
[02:42] <after8> Earthen:  no resolution possible
[02:43] <thegreedyturtle> after8: im not on the computer with the problem
[02:43] <after8> then write it out to #flood
[02:43] <ompaulAFK> or put it in paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:43] <CaiN_SA> hoe do i remove a user from a group ?
[02:43] <Earthen> after8: I'm getting a problem with alot of usage, I think it's a resuld of the latest problem with squid
[02:43] <pluffsy> I'm having some dhcp problems. My ubuntu machine won't let me connect. Or well, it says eth0 is active, but when I try to ping a site or use firefox or whatever I just get could not find host
[02:43] <pluffsy> so I guess I'm offline
[02:44] <Earthen> after8: and I am haveing problem getting to alot of web sites
[02:44] <thegreedyturtle> hang on, im going to d/c and try something again
[02:44] <Earthen> after8:when I turn squid on I can't get anywhere
[02:44] <pluffsy> Network tools first tab "Devices" just displays a 127.0.0.1 ip. Would I have a non-local ip there if I was connected?
[02:45] <Earthen> after8: I've did all the latest update but it had no effect
[02:46] <pluffsy> are there any kind of settings for dhcp? In macosx I just select dhcp and it handles everything for me (I tried typing in the dns server by hand in linux, but that didn't help)
[02:46] <Earthen> Hi ompaul
[02:46] <G|Patrick> bye
[02:47] <bimberi> CaiN_SA, sudo remuser <user> <group>, or use System -> Admin -> Users & Groups
[02:47] <pluffsy> hmm. I'll try again. have to disconnect to do that :p
[02:48] <ompaul> Earthen, hi
[02:48] <Whistler> what should i use for playing amr files?
[02:48] <_fl> hi there
[02:49] <_fl> is there a smart way to find out where (distro, universe, multiverse) a package came from?
[02:50] <_fl> (short from parsing Packages myself ...)
[02:52] <apokryphos> _fl: apt-cache show <package>
[02:52] <apokryphos> _fl: or, from packages.ubuntu.com
[02:52] <mahangu> help.. ive got my rt2500 driver setup
[02:52] <mahangu> but it wont show in network devices
[02:52] <Lethal-Rocks> mahangu, Are you sure it's PCI and not USB?
[02:52] <mahangu> ndiswrapper -l says driver present
[02:52] <mahangu> its usb Lethal-Rocks
[02:52] <Lethal-Rocks> mahangu, you need the rt2570 driver
[02:53] <mahangu> oh shite
[02:53] <Lethal-Rocks> ;)
[02:53] <mahangu> Lethal-Rocks, got it on hand?
[02:53] <Lethal-Rocks> Um... yeah
[02:54] <thoreauputic> _fl: also, apt-cache policy <packagename>
[02:54] <mahangu> Lethal-Rocks, dcc?
[02:54] <Lethal-Rocks> Need to compress folder
[02:54] <mahangu> or web?
[02:54] <mahangu> ah k
[02:54] <mahangu> im on ethernet now
[02:55] <Goshawk> on breezy amd64 my rythmbox does not recognise pls files... the net stations do not appair in the "radio" section.. does anybody has the same problem?
[02:55] <_fl> apokryphos, thoreauputic : thx. great !
[02:57] <Lethal-Rocks> I have no idea how to tar something, help me please?
[02:57] <Lethal-Rocks> Well, I have a vague idea
[02:57] <greedyturtle> blar
[02:57] <apokryphos> Lethal-Rocks: check the tar man page.
[02:57] <clem_yeats> man tar :)
[02:58] <lastnode> Lethal-Rocks, this is mahangu
[02:58] <Lethal-Rocks> Grr, I knew to do that, I wanted to be able to do it quickly
[02:58] <greedyturtle> can someone tell me what i should be seeing in the 'hosts' and 'dns' tabs in the network settings?
[02:58] <clem_yeats> do it quickly and ask again tomorrow ?
[02:58] <apokryphos> Lethal-Rocks: that is the quick. It says, straight away,  -c = create an archive
[02:59] <greedyturtle> after doing an ifconfig it seems like it has an inet6 address...
[02:59] <apokryphos> Lethal-Rocks: this place shouldn't be a substitute for man pages =)
[02:59] <clem_yeats> there's even a tar file creation example in the man !
[02:59] <Lethal-Rocks> Done, who wanted it?
[02:59] <lastnode> me
[02:59] <Lethal-Rocks> tyg
[03:00] <clem_yeats> tar cvf foo.tar foo/
[03:00] <Lethal-Rocks> Like I said, I allready did it
[03:00] <lastnode> Lethal-Rocks, 5mb?
[03:00] <Lethal-Rocks> Yeah
[03:00] <Lethal-Rocks> I don't have 7-zip atm :P
[03:00] <lastnode> the sourceforge download is 369kb
[03:00] <lastnode> ?
[03:00] <_fl> fyi - if someone has problems with gdm (because of a funky language setting) -> http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15408
[03:01] <cogumbreiro> greedyturtle: u prolly don't have an IP and are confusing the hwaddr with the ipaddr
[03:01] <Lethal-Rocks> lastnode, this is compiles
[03:01] <_fl> that's on 5.10
[03:01] <Lethal-Rocks> d*
[03:01] <greedyturtle> no, im definitely not confusing the HW address
[03:02] <johnnybezak> how do i make a .deb from a source tarball?
[03:02] <thoreauputic> johnnybezak: easy way is to use the checkinstall utility
[03:03] <cogumbreiro> greedyturtle: there's not a possibility of ipv4 be the ipv6, since they have different entries one says inet and the other inet6
[03:03] <greedyturtle> the second line in my ipconfig says "inet6 addr: fe80::290:47ff:fe05:36e7/64"
[03:03] <thoreauputic> johnnybezak: sudo apt-get install checkinstall ; man checkinstall
[03:03] <greedyturtle> there is no ipv4 line
[03:03] <johnnybezak> thoreauputic: roger that
[03:03] <setite> i cant install azureus
[03:03] <_fl> can someone reach launchpad.ubuntu.com? nojoy here...
[03:03] <thoreauputic> johnnybezak: it basically replaces "make install"
[03:03] <setite> it says i need jre... but i installed that already
[03:03] <Lethal-Rocks> setite, Good, I don't like bloatware :D
[03:04] <cogumbreiro> greedyturtle: what about issuing an ifconfig eth? <your ipv4> ?
[03:04] <setite> thanks for the opinion... whats the thing to check my java version
[03:04] <Lethal-Rocks> setite, You need to change one of the src files
[03:04] <johnnybezak> thoreauputic: ah ok cool, the package for f-spot seems to be broken so I want to install it but I also want to get rid of it etc.
[03:04] <deFrysk> setite, java --version
[03:04] <greedyturtle> cogumbreiro, gonna dc then, brb
[03:04] <setite> thats not working
[03:05] <deFrysk> setite, java --ver try that
[03:05] <setite> im getting bash: java: Command not found
[03:05] <setite> i must be buggering the installation.. lemme see
[03:05] <thoreauputic> setite: then java is not in your $PATH
[03:06] <deFrysk> setite, thaen you have a prob or no java
[03:06] <cogumbreiro> setite: that's suck a common problem
[03:06] <johnnybezak> thoreauputic: so i just ./configure then make as per usual, then just checkinstall -D ?
[03:06] <Red_Bullet> where is sourcelist
[03:06] <Red_Bullet> fail
[03:06] <setite> im trying to remember how i installed it last time
[03:06] <Red_Bullet> with repositories
[03:06] <Red_Bullet> ??
[03:06] <setite> they so need to get better packages on the repo
[03:06] <setite> for 64-bit
[03:06] <apokryphos> Red_Bullet: /etc/apt/
[03:06] <thoreauputic> johnnybezak: yes, ./configure ; make ; sudo checkinstall
[03:06] <cogumbreiro> johnnybezak: checkinstall replaces make install, so it's the usual stuff
[03:07] <Red_Bullet> apokryphos: and what is his name
[03:07] <onkarshinde> I was wondering how is this site http://www.ubuntu.org/ related to Ubuntu Linux.
[03:07] <apokryphos> Red_Bullet: guess
[03:07] <johnnybezak> thnx thoreauputic cogumreiro
[03:08] <thoreauputic> johnnybezak: no worries :)
[03:08] <pipoun> Hello all
[03:08] <pipoun> having a good day? :)
[03:08] <setite> anyoen got a list of 64-bit repos... like blackdown and the ones that leave off wher ubuntu is weak
[03:08] <Red_Bullet> apokryphos:  no it's name is kind of sourceslist
[03:08] <apokryphos> Red_Bullet: what?
[03:08] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet:   I suggest you install the apt-howto package, then type apt-howto in a terminal and read about how apt works
[03:09] <pipoun> I have a problem, I can't configure my xorg.conf tu have dual head
[03:09] <johnnybezak> ahh compiling from source it hurts the old brain a bit
[03:09] <pipoun> anyone could help me?
[03:09] <Red_Bullet> i found them
[03:09] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: /etc/apt/sour <hit the tab key>
[03:09] <onkarshinde> I was wondering how is this site http://www.ubuntu.org/ related to Ubuntu Linux.
[03:09] <_fl> pipoun, what card do you have?
[03:09] <Red_Bullet> sources.list
[03:09] <johnnybezak> http://www.ubuntu.org/
[03:10] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: congratulations
[03:10] <johnnybezak> sorry guys
[03:10] <pipoun> _fl, I have an ATI X800 XT
[03:10] <az[a] zel> any internode users here?
[03:10] <_fl> pipoun, what does lcpi say? one or two entries for it?
[03:10] <_fl> ahem, lspci
[03:11] <pipoun> I have two unkwnow devices
[03:11] <_fl> pipoun, unknown is bad. are there entries for a "VGA compatible controller" ?
[03:12] <pipoun> The problem is that after a fglrxconfig, the file xorg.conf is not modified
[03:13] <pipoun> _fl, I have no entries for compatible controller
[03:13] <_fl> pipoun, do a "lspci | grep VGA"
[03:13] <pipoun> _fl I did that
[03:13] <_fl> and, nothing?
[03:13] <pipoun> one thing
[03:13] <thegreedyturtle> well, that will get me a inet addr line, how do i do the subnet mask and the default gateway?
[03:13] <pipoun> sorry
[03:13] <_fl> hmm
[03:13] <_fl> mompl
[03:13] <pipoun> I did a lspci | grep ATI instead
[03:14] <thegreedyturtle> or better yet, how do i get it to start giving me ipv4 when it does dhcp lookups?
[03:14] <pipoun> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4a4b
[03:14] <pipoun> 0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4a6b
[03:14] <pipoun> compatible but unknown
[03:14] <apokryphos> pipoun: not a good idea to paste in here
[03:14] <pipoun> I'm sorry
[03:15] <pipoun> It was just 2 lines, so I assumed it was not forbidden
[03:15] <_fl> pipoun, try my conf at http://www.well.com/~fl/xorg.conf for starters
[03:15] <pipoun> tks
[03:15] <setite> anyone know where i can get a 64bit list of repos or an actual sources.list
[03:15] <_fl> pipoun, you'd have to adjust the device according to what lspci told you
[03:16] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: can you *please* log out and stop IRC ing as root? You've been told about it several times
[03:16] <pipoun> _fl, but why fglrxconfig can't help me to do that?
[03:16] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: change to your user
[03:17] <setite> come on ive seen many tutorials with the lists i just cant find them... someone must have a 64bit repo list
[03:17] <apokryphos> setite: they're the same, of course. :)
[03:18] <_fl> pipoun, I have no clue why the script does not work. It would be great if you could tell the author about that.
[03:19] <barongas> My wine doesn't seem to be able to connect... I just downloaded via the wine.sourforge.net apt ubuntu servers and trying to install ie6 but it can't connect. Any ideas?
[03:19] <guillem101> setite, ??? other than standard ubuntu, you mean?
[03:19] <pipoun> _fl, How can I get the coord of the author? Btw, tks for your config file, I see what I have to change
[03:20] <setite> well im looking for the 64bit repos
[03:20] <setite> like other than the standard ones
[03:20] <deFrysk> barongas, best idea is to use firefox
[03:20] <setite> ones that are for 64bit that have 64bit packages that werent ported by the ubuntu folks
[03:20] <pipoun> _fl, one last question, How can I have a list of monitors, cause I don't want to mess with them
[03:21] <barongas> deFrysk Yes, but I need to download ie6 cause it has some windows dependencies and stuff for other programs
[03:21] <_fl> pipoun, a list? I'm not sute I understand...
[03:21] <guillem101> setite, backports have very few 64bit packages, Rosen has removed his/her backport. However multiverse has lots of packages for 64bit, anyway
[03:22] <deFrysk> barongas, if you realle need it you need to get Crossover Plugin
[03:22] <setite> ok im guessing there are none of the 64bit peopel in here who have seen the lists im talking abotu... i guess i will have to keep searching
[03:22] <deFrysk> barongas, and that is not for free
[03:22] <barongas> deFrysk Yeah I know about cxoffice, just thinking that wine should be able to handle it...
[03:23] <pipoun> _fl, in the section monitor U put the Identifier and the vendor name of the monitor, but where did U get that?
[03:23] <deFrysk> barongas, it can be done but its not easy on wine
[03:23] <subopt> Ubuntu failed to recognize my wife's printer or scanner. In Slackware i'd go dl/build/install/configure a couple of things. What's the next step in Ubuntu?
[03:23] <pipoun> _fl, have you used smthing like autodetect?
[03:23] <_fl> pipoun, I got that from my manual ;-)
[03:23] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: fix it please
[03:24] <pipoun> _fl, but what are the consequences of putting a wrong information?
[03:24] <_fl> pipoun, but you could also set it to something safe, and use Option "dpms"
[03:24] <_fl>  and the read the Xorg.<display>.log
[03:24] <pipoun> ok
[03:25] <_fl> pipoun, wrong info only matters in HorizSync and VertRefresh, and then only really if it's a rather old CRT
[03:25] <thegreedyturtle> ok, i tried disabling ipv6 via: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6841.html but now i don't get *any* ip address in my ifconfig
[03:26] <_fl> new CRTs and flat panel screens usually just switch themselves off if they get something funny or harmful
[03:26] <bwlang> I'm thinking about upgrading from hoary to breezy to help with testing... but a bunch of packages seem to depend on libc  2.3.4 which is not available... Did I do something wrong?
[03:27] <_fl> pipoun, and you can only wreck a CRT with wrong freq, a flat pannel will just sit there and do nothing...
[03:27] <deFrysk> thegreedyturtle, those are tips for warty4.10
[03:27] <pipoun> _fl I have 2 CRT, but I know their freq
[03:27] <thegreedyturtle> oh well
[03:28] <thegreedyturtle> can someone give me the syntax for ifconfig to manually set my ip, subnetmask and def. gateway?
[03:29] <Whistler> any guides of how to set up acpi on my ubuntu?
[03:31] <bwlang> thegreedyturtle: ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 192.168.0.254 (that's from memory -  man ifconfig)
[03:31] <setite> woot i got azureus
[03:31] <Whistler> any guides of how to set up acpi on my ubuntu?
[03:31] <setite> i was installing jre into the wrong folder
[03:32] <bwlang> Whistler: that's a really openended question... you need to be more specific - and don't ask more than once.
[03:32] <after8> thegreedyturtle:  yes.
[03:32] <Whistler> bwlang ok sorry
[03:32] <setite> ok now i need to kill the iptables
[03:32] <_fl> pipoun, then put the freq in. You can always make the band narrower (i.e. safer) and look throuygh the DPMS info in the X log aftrewards and adjust it
[03:33] <bwlang> setite iptables -F; iptables -t nat -F
[03:33] <_fl> gotta run now
[03:34] <after8> anyone had a problem with the current imagemagick package for breezy
[03:34] <after8> ?
[03:34] <apokryphos> after8: nope. What specifically are you doing?
[03:35] <after8> apt-get dist-upgrading.
[03:35] <after8> its the last package :/
[03:35] <apokryphos> after8: no, with IM I mean.
[03:35] <apokryphos> oh, problem with the package installing?
[03:35] <after8> apokryphos:  i'm going breezy and it wont aptget
[03:36] <apokryphos> I did a dist-upgrade less than half an hour ago, and no problems. What exactly are the errors?
[03:36] <apokryphos> could you pastebin them?
[03:36] <after8> connection timing out... probly my proxy being a bag of hamstrings again !
[03:36] <Eepossu> Hello
[03:36] <after8> gday Eepossu
[03:36] <barongas> How do I in gnome decide which programs should be default for opening certain file types?
[03:36] <PsyBort> nite everyone, thanks for ur help, still having troulbe so ill be back soon.
[03:37] <apokryphos> it's quite like from your side (the problem), then.
[03:37] <after8> ok
[03:37] <thoreauputic> *sigh*
[03:37] <apokryphos> s/like/likely/
[03:38] <sschuresko> how do you control cpu frequency scaling on an ibook in ubuntu linux?
[03:38] <Eepossu> Why I cant enable my harddisk? Im using ubuntu & winxp
[03:38] <pipoun> koze it's in ntfs
[03:38] <Eepossu> Yesterday i did enable it.. And it did work
[03:38] <enyc> '' enabled your harddisk '' -- I dont understand
[03:38] <enyc> how owuld your harddisk be 'disabled' ??
[03:38] <enyc> need more details
[03:38] <pipoun> U have to "write" it in the fstab
[03:38] <erUSUL> barongas: right click on a file -> properties
[03:39] <after8> managed to get 600mb plus apokryphos
[03:39] <after8> 900 files, 899 ok, 1 not :/ arghh!!!
[03:39] <Eepossu> Im noob in using ubuntu
[03:39] <apokryphos> after8: Hm, weird. Did you try redoing an apt-get update and then again?
[03:39] <pipoun> Eepossu,
[03:40] <pipoun> cat /etc/fstab
[03:40] <after8> doing now... getting 8000B/s...
[03:40] <pipoun> U have ti edit it if a ligne corresponding to your hard disk is missing
[03:40] <barongas> erUSUL thanks
[03:41] <Eepossu> ill try that
[03:41] <pipoun> for example, I have a SATA drive
[03:41] <pipoun> here is my ligne:
[03:41] <Answer> Hello World
[03:41] <Answer> Question: Which is the best graphical SMB client to see a windows network?
[03:42] <pipoun> /dev/sda1       /mnt/win_sys    ntfs    umask=0,ro,user         0       0
[03:43] <after8> apokryphos:  looool 75MB have been updated since i apt-get updated just now.....
[03:43] <apokryphos> :)
[03:43] <after8> when i try my apt-get dist-upgrade....
[03:43] <after8> breezy is mobile baby :)
[03:44] <osfameron> Answer: gnome desktop can connect to Samba shares
[03:44] <Answer> osfameron: How to connect to Samba share with gnome desktop?
[03:44] <osfameron> Answer: try "Places - Connect to Server"
[03:45] <after8> apokryphos:  it would have had to be bl**dy openoffice that has been updated, obviously the smallest package in the repos ;)
[03:45] <sschuresko> ok I have autoscaling so my cpu speed goes up when I run stuff
[03:45] <apokryphos> after8: just thank your lucky stars that you're not compiling it 8)
[03:45] <sschuresko> but is at 1/2 speed when idle
[03:45] <after8> hehe
[03:45] <Whistler> should my /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ be empty?
[03:46] <Eepossu> it didnt work
[03:47] <Eepossu> it said /dev/hdd1 is denied or something like that
[03:47] <Answer> osfameron: When I ssh to the shared drive, I can see dirs owned by root, but in the graphical client I do not see them ?
[03:48] <hmrocha> hello
[03:48] <Eepossu> hi
[03:48] <hmrocha> i'm having trouble with NIS
[03:48] <hmrocha> my NIS server is giving me this error...
[03:48] <osfameron> Answer: hmm, so you *can* connect to the Samba share though?
[03:48] <hmrocha> ypserv[6398] : refused connect from .....
[03:48] <osfameron> Answer: might be a permissions thing, dunno
[03:48] <hmrocha> i'm using ubuntu on the clients
[03:49] <hmrocha> i login in text mode with a user exported from nis
[03:49] <hmrocha> but the username becomes "i have no name"
[03:49] <Answer> osfameron: Even when I connect using root the graphical interface doesn't show certain dirs owned by root...
[03:49] <PhoenixP3K> Hi everyone!
[03:50] <hmrocha> $ whoami tells me that it can't map uid to the username or something like that
[03:50] <lastnode> sorry got dc
[03:50] <hmrocha> any help?
[03:50] <Answer> hmrocha: sudo usermod -u UID username
[03:50] <lastnode> network manager says my wifi is activated
[03:50] <lastnode> but it wont ping
[03:51] <hmrocha> "cannot find username for uid ????"
[03:51] <hmrocha> Answer, how can i do that for all users?
[03:51] <hmrocha> Answer, hmmm, i think i can manage that
[03:51] <Whistler> how can i view my cpu temperature in ubuntu?
[03:51] <Answer> hmrocha: sudo usermod -u UID username  sets the UID for a username, I'm not sure how to do all of them
[03:51] <hmrocha> Answer, i know, don't worry
[03:51] <Answer> lastnode: did you setup everything with ifconfig and iwconfig ?
[03:52] <Answer> Question: has anyone done Peap or Leap authentication with ubuntu and cisco wireless hardware?
[03:52] <PhoenixP3K> I've mounted two partions yesterday using ubuntuguide.org how do I add thoses drives on the desktop and in the system itself (Computer; in Nautilus)
[03:52] <hmrocha> Answer, i do that in the nis server or in the ubuntu client?
[03:52] <lastnode> Answer, how do you do that?
[03:53] <Answer> hmrocha: I would guess the ubuntu client is where you want to setup the user accounts
[03:53] <Answer> lastnode: man ifconfig,   man iwconfig
[03:53] <lastnode> Answer, ive done that
[03:53] <hmrocha> Answer, that's bad :(
[03:53] <lastnode> makes no sense to me :s
[03:54] <lastnode> is there a connect command somewhere?
[03:54] <Answer> dhclient
[03:54] <Answer> !dhclient
[03:54] <lastnode> because it's dhcp, it should find anything on its own
[03:54] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Answer
[03:54] <Answer> lastnode:  dhclient ethN
[03:54] <Answer> lastnode:
[03:55] <Answer> lastnode: In ifconfig you should see your wireless card as eth1 probably,  run    ifconfig eth1 up   if it is not activated
[03:56] <Answer> lastnode:  use   iwconfig   to specify the SSID and WEPKey and other settings appropriately, then run dhclient eth1 to force a dhcrenew
[03:56] <lastnode> Answer, sorry i missed that
[03:56] <lastnode> timed out
[03:57] <pipoun> put your finger in
[03:57] <Answer> lastnode: Did you set the ssid and wep key for your network?
[03:57] <lastnode> Answer, no WEP key
[03:57] <lastnode> ssid yes
[03:58] <Answer> lastnode:  iwconfig eth1 key off
[03:58] <Answer> lastnode:  dhclient to force renew of the IP
[03:59] <lastnode> dhclient syntax?
[03:59] <Lethal-Rocks> lastnode, are you using the rt2570 drivers now?
[03:59] <funkyHat> would having vga=795 as a kernel option cause problems with usplash?
[03:59] <lastnode> Lethal-Rocks, yeah
[03:59] <Lethal-Rocks> replace all eth1's in here with rausb0
[04:00] <lastnode> Answer, just dhclient?
[04:00] <lastnode> Lethal-Rocks, gotcha
[04:00] <Lethal-Rocks> lastnode, Tell me once you've got it working if it's reliable
[04:00] <lastnode> dhclient?
[04:01] <lastnode> do i have to do that
[04:01] <lastnode> Lethal-Rocks, it shows the wifi adapter
[04:01] <Lethal-Rocks> Only for dhcp I guess
[04:01] <lastnode> and it activates and then says activated
[04:01] <lastnode> but it just wont ping
[04:01] <lastnode> i guess i gotta run iwconfig right?
[04:01] <Lethal-Rocks> Yeah, show me the output of that in private chat
[04:01] <Lethal-Rocks> If you want
[04:01] <lastnode> well i gotta reboot
[04:01] <lastnode> runs on this machine
[04:01] <lastnode> ok brb
[04:02] <lastnode> if not it means it failed and i mgoing to sleep :_
[04:02] <Lethal-Rocks> lol
[04:02] <lastnode> thanks Lethal-Rocks , Answer
[04:02] <after8> lol good luck lastnode :)
[04:02] <lastnode> :)
[04:02] <lastnode> btw everytime  i reboot i gotta do insmod
[04:02] <lastnode> why is that?
[04:03] <thoreauputic> lastnode: you need to put your module(s) in /etc/modules
[04:03] <tritium> lastnode: you need to list the module in/etc/modules
[04:03] <lastnode> how do i do that?
[04:04] <thoreauputic> lastnode: just write it in
[04:04] <Lethal-Rocks> sudo -i; nano /etc/modules
[04:04] <Lethal-Rocks> I think it's root-only anyway
[04:04] <lastnode> yeah, where's the module name in that though?
[04:04] <thoreauputic> Lethal-Rocks:  yes - sudo nano /etc/modules would do
[04:04] <nirtal> is it like updating from hoary to breezy if u put the breezy apt to source.list and then run "apt-get upgrade"?
[04:04] <tritium> lastnode: you have to add the one you're insmodding
[04:04] <kemik> no need todo a rootshell terminal
[04:04] <iqbala> anyone knows how to change the resolution.. my exerternal monitor that is attched to my alptop is giving 1024 .. but i know this monitor can go upto 1128
[04:04] <thoreauputic> lastnode: whatever you did modprobe/insmod on
[04:04] <Lethal-Rocks> thoreauputic, doing that or -e doesn't save it properly
[04:05] <kemik> Lethal-Rocks:  the meaning with sudo isnt to "save it"
[04:05] <tritium> nirtal: you have to do an update first
[04:05] <kemik> ;)
[04:05] <lastnode> ok my head hurts
[04:05] <thoreauputic> Lethal-Rocks: erm, I think you are mistaken
[04:05] <lastnode> i try this and brb
[04:06] <nirtal> yeah but is it the same thing as upgrade to breezy?
[04:06] <^rob^> hi
[04:06] <Lethal-Rocks> thoreauputic, Oh yeah, cool, but I use the root terminal icon instead ;)
[04:06] <PhoenixP3K> Can someone tell me how to make a Symlink in the "My Computer"
[04:06] <^rob^> anyone here use doctools? - or is there a wyswyg application to write sgml documentation ??
[04:06] <tritium> nirtal: that's what you'd be doing, yes.  You would need to sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:08] <nirtal> cus in breezy my opengl isn't working at al. cant get the ati drivers working...
[04:08] <nirtal> but in hoary they work fine....
[04:11] <Whistler> i am trying to update to breezy
[04:11] <Whistler> can anybody paste needed sources.list file?
[04:11] <Eepossu> How i can unmount my harddisk?
[04:11] <Whistler> cause i am trying to edit it and i cant make it work
[04:12] <funkyHat> can someone help me with this: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2182 (beagle not starting)
[04:12] <guillem101> PhoenixP3K, "My Computer" is gnome-vfs only, you won't be able to create a symlink, AFAIK
[04:12] <funkyHat> Whistler, paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2183
[04:13] <guillem101> PhoenixP3K, however, you might create a launcher for it
[04:14] <Eepossu> How i can unmount my harddisk?
[04:14] <Whistler> funkyHat thx
[04:14] <Whistler> :)
[04:14] <apokryphos> Eepossu: umount
[04:14] <funkyHat> :) np
[04:14] <apokryphos> Eepossu: may want to remove it from fstab if it's there.
[04:14] <Eepossu> it doesnt work
[04:14] <apokryphos> if it's the HD that is used for / it'll likely not work
[04:14] <Eepossu> i just need to unmount it
[04:14] <Eepossu> its not
[04:15] <apokryphos> Eepossu: what is its mount point, and what's the error message?
[04:15] <Waerner> Hi, back again :)           I have 2 questions, the fist one is simple: Is Ubuntu 5.10 supposed to be able to install via apt-get?
[04:15] <Eepossu> I just accidentally mounted my harddisk to /
[04:15] <PhoenixP3K> guillem101, I'm not sure how to name the components... the this is yesterday when I mounted the volumes they were added on the Desktop and search menu for instance
[04:15] <apokryphos> :/
[04:15] <tritium> Waerner: yes
[04:15] <klex> how do i make a program start automatic after logging inn to gnome?
[04:16] <apokryphos> Eepossu: your fstab doesn't have it mounted under /, though, does it?
[04:16] <thoreauputic> Waerner: yes, in fact that's the normal expected thing...
[04:16] <Waerner> tritium, it's just a matter of time? or should it appear there by now?
[04:16] <Eepossu> Err..
[04:16] <apokryphos> Eepossu: I'd recommend restarting
[04:16] <Eepossu> okay
[04:16] <Eepossu> ill try that :D
[04:16] <tritium> klex: if it's a gnome app, just leave it running when you log out, and save your session on logout
[04:16] <guillem101> PhoenixP3K, gconf-editor->apps->nautilus->computer_icon_visible
[04:16] <tritium> Waerner: it won't appear.  you have to change your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[04:17] <thoreauputic> !tell Waerner about upgrade2breezy
[04:17] <tritium> Eepossu: you could try chrooting to your original /, and then unmounting the drive
[04:17] <Waerner> thanks alot =))
[04:18] <klex> i have no network connection and now it uses a looong time to boot, what can i do to speed things up?
[04:18] <vinboy123> hi guys
[04:18] <vinboy123> how do I make my wifi card work when the linux bootup?
[04:18] <vinboy123> i need to set some parameters such as ad-hoc mode, ip etc
[04:18] <Waerner> Then I have one question more... Themes is Ubuntu with Gnome... Have I missed something or is it impossible to change the layout of the "menu bar"?
[04:19] <tritium> vinboy123: you can set wireless parameters in /etc/network/interfaces.  run "man interfaces" for more info
[04:19] <PhoenixP3K> guillem101, when but that would show only the computer icon on the desktop. Not the /media/Windows and /media/Storage being the two mounted volumes
[04:19] <Eepossu> tritium, umm..chrooting?
[04:19] <thoreauputic> Waerner: you mean the  top panel?
[04:20] <tritium> Eepossu: well, if you haven't heard of it, it's probably easier to simply reboot
[04:20] <guillem101> PhoenixP3K, gconf-editor->apps->nautilus->volumes_visible
[04:20] <Waerner> thoreauputic, exactly
[04:20] <thoreauputic> Waerner: you can move the elemnets around - right click, unlock, drag
[04:20] <thoreauputic> *elements
[04:20] <vinboy123> thanks tritium
[04:20] <PhoenixP3K> guillem101, well there is already a check mark :(
[04:20] <guillem101> PhoenixP3K, you can also make links to /media/Windows
[04:20] <guillem101> PhoenixP3K, etc, ..
[04:20] <Waerner> thoreauputic, yeah, but I want to change the style of it, I'm new to this with themes but have succeeded to download and install a few, but that panel looks so boring
[04:21] <emile> the touchpad's scrollbuttons on my laptop dont work, i can read downscrolling with xev, but no scrollup. i tried hoary and breezy, both fail. any suggestions?
[04:21] <guillem101> PhoenixP3K, I guess volumes only mean removable storage in this case
[04:21] <PhoenixP3K> guillem101, this seems to be so simple and easy I can't find it on the forums
[04:21] <selinium> Any idea why sound juicer is ripping at x1.5 even though my drive is 8x4x32?
[04:21] <thoreauputic> Waerner: you can make it transparent , or size it or move it or remove it
[04:22] <selinium> hi thoreauputic howzit?
[04:22] <thoreauputic> Waerner: right click panel, properties etc
[04:22] <thoreauputic> hi selinium :)
[04:22] <Answer> Question:  Can I redirect output to a file for logging, and still have it display to stdout at the same time?
[04:22] <Waerner> thoreauputic, ah, okay, cause I downloaded a MacOS-X theme, and everything is changed except that panel :)
[04:22] <Eepossu> \o/ now i got my harddisk working
[04:23] <selinium> thoreauputic, I am slowly assimultaing all the information from this channel! (But my head hurts lots!)
[04:23] <guillem101> PhoenixP3K, I've done it right now: on the desktop, select the menu "create new launcher"
[04:23] <Answer> selinium: you may be able to set the default speed with $cdrecord speed=#       man cdrecord
[04:23] <thoreauputic> selinium: heh - so does mine at the moment ;)
[04:23] <guillem101> PhoenixP3K,  Select as "Type": Link
[04:23] <guillem101> PhoenixP3K, Give it a nice name at "Name"
[04:23] <PhoenixP3K> guillem101, oh I see it. Thanks!
[04:24] <guillem101> PhoenixP3K, place at URL: "file://media/windows"
[04:24] <selinium> Answer, Cheers, i'll have a look!
[04:24] <elro> Hi, I've noticed that ssh-ing into my ubuntu box over the internet is very slow. it takes about 20 seconds for the password prompt to come up. after I've logged in it's fine though
[04:24] <guillem101> PhoenixP3K, also, select apropriate icon for the launcher
[04:24] <tritium> Answer: I'm not sure if soundjuicer uses cdrecord
[04:24] <thoreauputic> Red_Bullet: are you still alive? Hullo?
[04:24] <Answer> tritium: me neither but cdrecord may set the speed in a conf file... I've not seen many places to set cdr speed
[04:25] <Answer> Question:  simple bash scripting redirection with >    how to redirect to a file and still display on stdout?
[04:25] <thoreauputic> Answer: use tee
[04:25] <tritium> Answer: selinium, and that configuration is in /etc/default/cdrecord
[04:26] <selinium> tritium: cheers!
[04:26] <tritium> :)
[04:26] <Answer> thoreauputic: simple example of how to use tee please ?
[04:27] <thoreauputic> Answer: e.g touch foo ; echo bar | tee bleh.txt
[04:27] <netstar> What is ubuntu's equivalent to /etc/rc.d/rc.local?
[04:27] <thoreauputic> Answer: heh sorry echo bar | tee foo
[04:27] <guillem101> How do I enable spam filtering in evo? I've installed spamassassin, and evo says that learns junk but no junk is ever filtered. Do I have to place "ENABLE=1" at /etc/default/spamassassin? or that is not necessary at all?
[04:27] <thoreauputic> Answer: anyway you get the idea...
[04:27] <Answer> thoreauputic: tee = cool
[04:27] <thoreauputic> :)
[04:28] <reiki_work> guillem101: are you using fetchmail and picking up from a local spool or downloading directly?
[04:28] <guillem101> reiki_work, no, POP3 mail.
[04:28] <Sputn1k> somebody can help me with Jack-Rack?
[04:28] <fluffybunny_> can anyone help me with mounting a usb drive in KDE?
[04:28] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: hey, how are you?
[04:29] <reiki_work> guillem101: one sec...
[04:29] <reiki_work> hi fluffybunny_ !
[04:29] <apokryphos> fluffybunny_: #kubuntu is better; it should mount automagically, though.
[04:29] <fluffybunny_> reiki_work: I've switched to KDE - no HAL or acpi errors
[04:29] <fluffybunny_> apokryphos: what is kubuntu?
[04:29] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell fluffybunny_ about kubuntu
[04:29] <reiki_work> guillem101: http://www.yardbird.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=22&Itemid=59
[04:29] <danl> it's ubuntu with kde instead of gnome
[04:30] <danl> thats the jist
[04:30] <reiki_work> directions for RUNNING spamassain in evolution^^^^
[04:30] <fluffybunny_> uhm... so how is kubuntu different from what I have (std ubuntu install, kde just installed from synaptic)
[04:31] <thoreauputic> netstar: sort of similar I think:  /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[04:31] <reiki_work> guillem101: I wasn't happy with Evolution's "learning" process. It seemed slow.
[04:31] <netstar> thanks thoreauputic
[04:31] <Sputn1k> when i starting jack-rack i get this error: http://img374.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nuotrauka38xh.png
[04:31] <reiki_work> guillem101: running spamassassin as a filter slows down mail retrieval but it worked a lot better
[04:31] <thoreauputic> netstar: gegnerally though you would use a script in /etc/init.d and run update-rc.d to set it up
[04:32] <thoreauputic> *geberally
[04:32] <thoreauputic> hahah
[04:32] <netstar> :)
[04:32] <Eepossu> Im having problems at getting to internet
[04:32] <danl> flufyfbunny: im running ubuntu with kde installed from synaptic as well, I think it's almost the same except gnome isn't installed by default...
[04:32] <reiki_work> fluffybunny_: how do you like KDE desktop as opposed to Gnome desktop?
[04:32] <apokryphos> fluffybunny_: because obviously #kubuntu would have more kde users; or, rather, it's the channel more specific for exactly kde-related-problems
[04:32] <Sputn1k> so no ides? :(
[04:33] <guillem101> reiki_work, thanks!. However, I don't understand which is the difference between this and the built-in way....
[04:33] <fluffybunny_> apokryphos: doh! i didn't realise you were talking about an IRC channel! oops!
[04:33] <guillem101> reiki_work, it is supposed that Evo should do that, isn't it?
[04:33] <Eepossu> When i run pppoeconf it doesnt work. How to get that workin?
[04:33] <Answer> Eepossu: what kind of hardware and connection are you attemping?
[04:33] <thoreauputic> fluffybunny_: can a bunny grin sheepishly ? ;-)
[04:33] <danl> is there any way to get shfs to authenticate using ssh authorized keys that i already have setup and working for the remote machine in question?
[04:33] <apokryphos> fluffybunny_: =)
[04:34] <reiki_work> guillem101: yes... perhaps I was to impatient, but I didn't like the way the "built-in" thing worked... because it didn't seem to work AND it seemed to be stripping teh spam headers. I never got it writing headers correctly. So I switched to fetchmail ->procmail->spamassassin
[04:34] <nomed> hi all
[04:34] <fluffybunny_> thoreauputic: can grin wolfishly.... :D
[04:35] <nomed> it seems gmessage has some problem reading from stdin
[04:35] <nomed> can anyone try this cmd ?
[04:35] <thoreauputic> fluffybunny_: mwuhahaha! :D
[04:35] <Eepossu> answer, umm.. i think its dial up or broadband connection.. And my internetcard is ZyXEL PPC10 phoneline PCI card
[04:35] <nomed> echo gmessage | gmessage -file -
[04:35] <Answer> Eepossu:  read about   man iwconifg    man ifconfig
[04:35] <nomed> it should show "gmessage" but i see just -file
[04:36] <danl> i get a message box with the file name
[04:36] <fluffybunny_> thoreauputic: now I have "Lambert, the sheepish Lion" on my brain... :D
[04:36] <thoreauputic> :D
[04:37] <nomed> danl, the message shows "gmessage" ?
[04:37] <lutifer> hi
[04:37] <danl> nomad: no it shows -file
[04:37] <Eepossu> answer, than ill try that
[04:37] <Eepossu> thanks*
[04:37] <nomed> yes so it's abug
[04:38] <Answer> Eepossu:  when you think you have ifconfig and iwconfig setup correctly, run dhclient to try to get an IP with dhcp.  also see   man wireless   man interfaces
[04:38] <guillem101> reiki_work, thanks  a lot.  Let's hope it is solved at Breezy, btw
[04:38] <reiki_work> guillem101: glad to help
[04:39] <reiki_work> guillem101: and I'm not sure it's a Breezy issue... I think it's an Evolution issue
[04:40] <EricV> Hello !
[04:40] <EricV> can i ask you some help about installing an edubuntu on a vmware gsx server ?
[04:41] <Answer> EricV: It's a free country...
[04:43] <danl> nomad: looking at the man page, the command should be echo somemessage | gmessage -file -
[04:43] <EricV> thx Answer ;) i feel good ! ya can help me, especially about formating HD ?
[04:44] <Answer> EricV: I only said you were free to ask about it... hehe
[04:45] <EricV> so i prefer dictature...
[04:48] <Lie-Algebra> hello, supposing i want to add a memory stick on my laptop, once it is done, will ubuntu be happy ?
[04:49] <funkyHat> would it be possible to hack usplash to work at 1280x1024? (or any other resolution)
[04:49] <funkyHat> ?
[04:49] <Nermal> Lie-Algebra, yah
[04:49] <guillem101> Lie-Algebra, Almost as happy as You'll be
[04:49] <Nermal> should just see it as a usb mass storage device
[04:49] <Lie-Algebra> usb?
[04:49] <Nermal> is it a vaio ?
[04:49] <Lie-Algebra> I am not sure to understan why it should appear as usb mass storage...
[04:49] <Lie-Algebra> nope
[04:50] <Nermal> well how are you interfacing the memory stick into it ?
[04:50] <Lie-Algebra> HP compaq NX 6110
[04:50] <Nermal> a memory stick or some other memory format ?
[04:50] <funkyHat> Lie-Algebra, most memory stick slots are internal USB devices
[04:50] <reiki_work> adding an additional memory module inside?
[04:50] <tritium> funkyHat: you tried vga=795, and it failed to work?
[04:50] <funkyHat> oh, that kind of memory lol
[04:50] <Lie-Algebra> i can add one more, there is the place...
[04:50] <Nermal> Lie-Algebra, yes.. it will be fine
[04:50] <reiki_work> :)
[04:51] <Lie-Algebra> thanks
[04:51] <funkyHat> tritium, yes, usplash works fine having taken vga=795 off my kernel line, but didn't before
[04:51] <Nermal> unless you go over 896mb in which case you will need to install a 686 kernel to get large memory support and get the full 1gb :P
[04:51] <Sputn1k> when i starting jack-rack i get this http://img374.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nuotrauka38xh.png help me somebody :/
[04:52] <LeeColleton> I have a pretty serious problem with my girlfriends laptop.  It suddenly has a failure in mounting the hard drive on boot.  Kernel panic ensues.  The exact message is: EXT3-fs: hda1: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional features (20002000).
[04:52] <LeeColleton> Is that a failed hard drive?
[04:52] <funkyHat> is it still true that ubuntu doesn't use the local unix font server? (i had the line in xorg.conf commented out before, but when i upgraded to breezy i restored the default config)
[04:55] <LeeColleton> Oh great.  Now on power up I get "Operating System not found".  That must be a failed drive.  Craptastic.
[04:58] <PhoenixP3K> Can someone tell me where is located the icon of a hard-drive? Like the one you see in the "Computer" menu
[04:59] <bad1234> hi, I've got a problem getting CPUFreq working on a centrino notebook (-> speedstep). Does the standard 686kernel contain a CPUFreq Interface
[05:05] <dabaR> heh, the University network uses DHCP, and allows for booting off the CD, guess what OS I am using here now...
[05:05] <apokryphos> Linspire!
[05:06] <dabaR> No, Ubuntu.
[05:06] <dabaR> heh
[05:06] <dabaR> right in the lab, I find that fascinating.
[05:06] <dabaR> ok, later, gotta listen to the lecture.
[05:09] <riffic> I seem to have a problem with the latest dist-upgrade in breezy
[05:09] <riffic> did that this morning, rebooted, and now gdm doesn't come up
[05:10] <Deanodriver> hi
[05:10] <riffic> sup
[05:10] <Deanodriver> not a lot
[05:10] <riffic> cool
[05:10] <Deanodriver> just the normal 'i tried to upgrade to breezy and broke it' :)
[05:11] <prolsd> ;D
[05:11] <zimba-tm> hi
[05:11] <riffic> looks like you and me are in the same boat
[05:11] <Deanodriver> i'm having a look through the xorg log file
[05:11] <Deanodriver> Fatal server error:
[05:11] <Deanodriver> could not open default font 'fixed';
[05:11] <Deanodriver> the X server's font paths might be misconfigured, remote font server(s)
[05:11] <Deanodriver> may be unreachable, and/or local fonts may not be installed or are not
[05:11] <Deanodriver> configured correctly.
[05:11] <Deanodriver> ] 
[05:11] <Deanodriver> hmm
[05:11] <riffic> a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart does jack for me
[05:11] <Deanodriver> (the ]  isn't part of the file) :)
[05:11] <apokryphos> Deanodriver: read the topic. Do *not* paste in here.
[05:12] <zimba-tm> can somebody tell me how to copy->paste between a terminal and an X app ?
[05:13] <Lethal-Rocks> Drag-select and right-click
[05:13] <Answer> zimba-tm: leave it highlighted in the terminal, use right or middle mouse to paste
[05:13] <dabaR> whats the command to open xnest again?
[05:14] <Answer> dabaR: whereis xnest, locate xnest
[05:15] <dabaR> Answer: no, I can dpkg -L for that, but its not that, I remember something else.
[05:15] <zimba-tm> I can copy->paste between urxvt and Firefox, until I copy something in FF
[05:15] <thoreauputic> dabaR: it depends - if you want a login you can do gdmflexiserver --xnest (or something like that)
[05:15] <dabaR> thoreauputic: thanks.
[05:15] <GNU-GPL> .
[05:15] <zimba-tm> Answer: I don't use gnome-terminal, that must be the problem
[05:19] <zimba-tm> isn't there a clipboard manager for the different sources out there ?
[05:19] <bob2> apokryphos: er, I'm not sure punitive bans are a good solution
[05:19] <zimba-tm> like how many different clipboard implementation exist out there ? :-/
[05:20] <apokryphos> bob2: agreed. I see them as more editorial decisions, generally.
[05:20] <riffic> holy shit that guy hasn't been unbanned yet
[05:20] <riffic> i'm sure it was an honest mistake
[05:21] <bob2> if you're trying to stop a flood, /remove them from the channel
[05:21] <apokryphos> riffic: perhaps. It's not unreasonable to ask people to read the topic when they enter the channel of course
[05:22] <yahalom> how do i reinstall firefox?  sudo apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox?
[05:22] <bob2> yahalom: that's not going to fix problems with it, if that's what you're trying to do
[05:22] <Eepossu> When i try to ifconfig eth0 up it says "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied"
[05:22] <apokryphos> bob2: I prefer q personally
[05:22] <bob2> removing it after the person has left is pointless
[05:22] <yahalom> bob2: it wont even start after yesterdays firefox update
[05:22] <bob2> +q is fine if you actualy need to stop someone talking in here
[05:22] <apokryphos> bob2: a q? No it's not.
[05:23] <Eepossu> When i try to ifconfig eth0 up it says "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied". How to fix this
[05:23] <yahalom> Eepossu: sudo
[05:23] <Eepossu> h
[05:23] <yahalom> Eepossu: sudo ifconfig
[05:23] <x-pert> hey
[05:23] <x-pert> i am trying to share a printer between two pc's
[05:23] <riffic> yahalom: wget http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/1.0.6/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-1.0.6.tar.gz ; tar xzf firefox*, yadda
[05:24] <yahalom> riffic: thanx
[05:24] <bob2> yahalom: reinstalling is unlikely to help
[05:24] <riffic> =)
[05:24] <yahalom> so many users having issues with firefox on breezy?
[05:24] <riffic> i'm using firefox 1.5 beta.. seems ok
[05:24] <riffic> but on the other hand my breezy won't even load into gdm after today's update
[05:24] <x-pert> i am trying to share a printer between two pc's pone has linux ubuntu and the other windows XP the printer is installed in the computer which has windowsand it is set to be shared.in ubuntu i have added a new printer, but it still doesnt work... do i nedd anything else?
[05:25] <bob2> riffic: did you file a bug?
[05:25] <riffic> no should I?
[05:25] <riffic> i don't know what the cause would be so I don't really know what bug I should file
[05:25] <bob2> riffic: if something is broken, especially after an update, yes
[05:26] <Eepossu> Still pppoeconf doesnt work
[05:26] <jack-> question: i'm trying to install vmware workstation on my ubuntu (hoary)
[05:26] <bob2> "doesn't work" is not a very good description of a problem
[05:27] <jack-> it wants to make a fresh monitor binary since "my kernel isnt suitable for the premade binaries"
[05:27] <barongas> Whenever I try and play an mp3-file with xmms it freezes, I have downloaded all the mp3 stuffs and using esd for sounds out. Any ideas?
[05:27] <x-pert> what do i nedd to put the printer working
[05:27] <jack-> but doesnt find the kernel headers..any hint? :<
[05:27] <riffic> don't use xmms?
[05:27] <riffic> =)
[05:27] <bob2> jack-: er, install them? sudo aptitude install build=essential linux=headers-$(uname -r)
[05:27] <riffic> amarok, muine, rhythmbox, xmms2, etc
[05:27] <riffic> i heard that quid libet player is pretty nice
[05:28] <riffic> haven't tried it yet though
[05:28] <jack-> _anyone_ here ever tried vmware at all?
[05:28] <jack-> :(
[05:28] <zimba-tm> barongas: I had good experiences with oss, install alsa-oss
[05:28] <Sputn1k> When i trying to start jack-rack i get this error: Could not open ALSA sequencer, aborting No such file or directory Make sure you have configure ALSA properly and that /proc/asound/seq/clients exists and contains relevant devices.
[05:28] <bob2> jack-: er, I told you how to fix it
[05:28] <jack-> bob2, thx
[05:28] <yahalom> Eepossu: u have a router modem?
[05:28] <jack-> but i did that already..
[05:28] <Eepossu> no..
[05:29] <bob2> jack-: also, vmware is proprietary, commercial software; you should be getting support from them
[05:29] <jack-> linux-kernel-headers is already the newest version.
[05:29] <bob2> jack-: then do it again
[05:29] <Sputn1k> pls somebody... :)
[05:29] <yahalom> Eepossu: u did sudo pppoeconf?
[05:29] <barongas> zimba-tm/riffic I'll try oss. If that don't work I'll try your alternatives riff
[05:29] <Eepossu> yeah
[05:29] <jack-> bob2, i know, but its an ubuntu related problem isnt it
[05:29] <Eepossu> It just fails everytime
[05:29] <jack-> i doubt they'll be willing to help instantly
[05:29] <bob2> jack-: with proprietary software; you gace them money, it's their responsibility to help you
[05:29] <jack-> but i'd like to get it running instantly ;)
[05:30] <jack-> if they would have an hippocratic oath like a doctor..
[05:30] <jack-> sigh
[05:30] <yahalom> Eepossu: what u mean fails?
[05:30] <Eepossu> It tells me something that starts "Sorry..."
[05:30] <yahalom> bob2: reinstall fixed it man
[05:31] <jack-> bob2, btw
[05:31] <bob2> yahalom: then file a bug
[05:31] <jack-> why aptitude instead of apt-get?
[05:31] <spiral> hi
[05:31] <yahalom> bob2: k :)
[05:31] <bob2> aptitude makes it easier to remove things
[05:31] <barongas> I get OSS-unit "/dev/dsp" is already used by another program.. which makes no real sense
[05:31] <jack-> ok, thx
[05:32] <yahalom> Eepossu: it wont work if ur already connected with something
[05:32] <yahalom> Eepossu: try rebooting and then do it again
[05:32] <bob2> barongas: sure it does; something else is using that device
[05:33] <mirak> how is called a project leader in english ? A "project chief" ?
[05:33] <barongas> bob2: That's what it says, I just don't have any other media-ish programs running
[05:33] <Eepossu> yahalom, i have tried it many times.. after many reboots
[05:34] <bob2> barongas: fuser -v /dev/ds[
[05:34] <bob2> mirak: project leader
[05:35] <xiglet> is it possible to use apt-get to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 ?
[05:36] <bob2> xiglet: wiki/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[05:36] <bwlang> xiglet: i'm doing that now
[05:36] <xiglet> tnx
[05:36] <bob2> former redhat users have funny views on upgrades
[05:36] <bwlang> xiglet: there is at least one quirk
[05:36] <xiglet> bwlang, ok?
[05:37] <bwlang> xiglet: if you don't know how to manually resolve pkg conflicts then you should probably wait
[05:37] <w-the-c> I need to update my fglrx kernel module, but I am unsure about how to do that with ubuntu because it doesn't seem like the kernel source is available...  is a new kernel coming out soon?
[05:37] <bob2> you don't need kernel source to compile kernel modules
[05:37] <bob2> this is not redhat
[05:37] <bob2> or gentoo
[05:37] <xiglet> bwlang, ok ... I guess i'll wait then. I have the cd but didn't look like it supported upgrading
[05:37] <bob2> or whatever
[05:37] <w-the-c> oh..   cool, ok =)
[05:37] <bob2> firegl is included with ubuntu, too, anyway
[05:38] <bob2> if you really feel an uncontrollable urge to compile it, sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential
[05:38] <w-the-c> firegl?  what's the difference between fglrx and firegl?
[05:38] <shinmen> Hey guys. I have a but to report for sound converter, but I'm not shure if I should report it to the upstream developers or at ubuntu's bug database.
[05:39] <bob2> shinmen: "sound converter
[05:39] <bob2> "?
[05:39] <Eepossu> argh
[05:39] <Eepossu> Why this shit doesnt work!?
[05:39] <yahalom> Eepossu: what details do u enter, or does it never go that far?
[05:39] <Eepossu> Im starting to get pissed of
[05:40] <Eepossu> It never goes that far
[05:40] <barongas> bob2: thanks
[05:40] <shinmen> bob2, An aplication for translating audio formats that can be read by gstreamer.
[05:40] <shinmen> bob2, apt-cache show soundconverter
[05:40] <bob2> right
[05:40] <bob2> file a bug in ubuntu then
[05:41] <shinmen> bob2, Ok.
[05:41] <cogumbreiro> lo all
[05:41] <cogumbreiro> does anyone know why this message is appearing? (process:28093): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by C library
[05:42] <bob2> ignore it
[05:42] <cogumbreiro> i can't seem to be able to change my ubuntu to my native language
[05:42] <cogumbreiro> i do: LC_ALL=pt_PT ooffice2
[05:42] <mirak> bob2 what is above a proejct leader ? A project director ?
[05:42] <cogumbreiro> and it doesn't work and I've enabled the language pack
[05:42] <Eepossu> Applications -> system tools -> ubuntu device database program bugs after getting to network part..
[05:45] <pluffsy> I can't get dhcp to work in ubuntu :(
[05:45] <bob2> mirak: I don't know what you mean
[05:45] <Answer> pluffsy:  dhclient
[05:46] <mirak> bob2 I am trying to find the equivalent in english for project roles
[05:46] <pluffsy> Answer: I tried doing it from the gnome Networking gui but it didn't work. You think I should try that dhclient from cli?
[05:46] <mirak> so developer < project leader <   and project director ?
[05:46] <Answer> pluffsy:  dhclient
[05:46] <bob2> mirak: this doesn't sound very ubuntu-related
[05:46] <pluffsy> ermm
[05:47] <mirak> bob2 that's absolutely not realted
[05:47] <mirak> related
[05:47] <mirak> but the question still stands ^^^
[05:47] <mirak> ^^
[05:47] <Answer> mirak:  developer < designer < manager < director
[05:48] <ndw> Hi all
[05:48] <ndw> On Ubuntu running Breezy, zenity reports: GLib-ERROR **: file goption.c: line 890 (parse_arg): should not be reached
[05:48] <ndw>  aborting...
[05:48] <ollie> does anyone have any experience using bogofilter w/evolution?
[05:48] <ndw> Is this news? :-)
[05:48] <barongas> I'm reading some guide for getting alsa working with oss and all for ubuntu. I'm supposed to have a file /etc/asound.conf which I don't have. Any ideas on where it could be or why I don't have it?
[05:49] <ollie> I'm trying to setup a machine for my mom, and the lack of spam filtering is a problem
[05:49] <ollie> I tried spamassasin, but wasn't working very well
[05:49] <Answer> barongas:  locate alsa.conf
[05:49] <fluffybunny_> any power ubergeeks who can help a fluffybunny with her usb problem?
[05:49] <ollie> so far, googling hasn't turned up anything useful -- exccept requests that something be done about evolution & spam filtering ;-)
[05:50] <mirak> 5454
[05:51] <zblach> hi
[05:51] <darkheart> fluffybunny_ Just ask your question and if someone knows they will answer =)
[05:51] <zblach> question. i'm connected remotely to my computer. how can i set up proftpd?
[05:51] <thrush> ollie, just set her up with a gmail account ;^p
[05:52] <zblach> i'd like to actually get some files off my compy
[05:52] <ollie> thrush: already got one, but she's got another account which gets a good deal of spam
[05:52] <Answer> zblach: you are using a windows machine to connect remotely to ubuntu?
[05:52] <Answer> zblach: apt-get install proftpd
[05:53] <Deanodriver> finally fixed my problem
[05:53] <Deanodriver> thanks for banning me there, made me go and look for the solution myself :)
[05:53] <darkheart> zblach How are you connected to your box?
[05:53] <ollie> I've got to say, this seems like a big oversight in terms of usability for a low-tech user -- someone who just wants to browse the internet, send and receive e-mail, and edit some docs
[05:53] <Deanodriver> now i've gotta reconfigure GDM :)
[05:53] <thrush> ollie, thunderbird isnt bad at blocking spam
[05:53] <ollie> anyhoo, enough whining, I'll just setup the spambayes proxy
[05:53] <zblach> answer, 1) yes, 2) its already installed
[05:54] <zblach> darkheart, i'm connected via putty
[05:54] <ollie> thrush: yeah, but w/evolution, she's got an outlook equivlent -- which makes the transition easier
[05:55] <Answer> Question: What situation is freenx good for
[05:55] <darkheart> Answer Remote desktop
[05:55] <thrush> ollie, yah evolutions nice.. good luck =)
[05:55] <Answer> darkheart: how do I connect from one ubuntu to another using freenx?
[05:55] <ollie> thrush: thankee ;-)
[05:55] <Deanodriver> by the way, breezy looks nice :)
[05:55] <darkheart> Answer Is it installed?
[05:56] <Answer> darkheart: freenx and dependents installed
[05:56] <darkheart> Answer Just install the nx client on the box you are using and connect to the box running the nx server.
[05:56] <Answer> darkheart: how to run the nxserver
[05:57] <mindamp> how do i use this mail command to display the sender as well?
[05:57] <mindamp> mail -s "Your New MindAmp.Org Blog" $2 < /source/welcome
[05:58] <Deanodriver> is there any way to use the hoary nautilus icons in breezy?
[05:58] <Deanodriver> i prefered the Hoary ones
[05:58] <Sputn1k> Somebody using Jack-Rack???
[05:58] <Deanodriver> :)
[05:58] <Sputn1k> so?
[05:58] <zblach> i'm just having trouble connecting. I'm not sure how to configure proftpd.conf
[05:58] <Sputn1k> nobody?
[05:58] <barongas> Answer: Are you sure that alsa.conf and asound.conf are the same? It doesn't really look like what the guide is describing.
[05:59] <darkheart> Answer I don't use nx so I don't know the name of the files, but it's something like nxserver or something...If you open synaptic and search for freenx, you can check the properties and see which files were installed.
[05:59] <darkheart> zblach You can transfer files through ssh if that's good enough for you.
[06:01] <Answer> Question:  apt-get install freenx   :  Couldn't find package freenx.   Synaptic doesn't see it either
[06:02] <robotgeek> !info freenx
[06:02] <darkheart> Answer You said it was installed earlier
[06:03] <darkheart> Answer It looks like it's in the backports repository.
[06:03] <gypsymauro> hi
[06:04] <thoreauputic> !freenx
[06:04] <ubotu> somebody said freenx was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[06:04] <thoreauputic> ^^^
[06:05] <thoreauputic> seveas has nade debs for freenx
[06:05] <thoreauputic> *made
[06:07] <darkheart> Answer Btw, if you can't apt-get something, synaptic won't be able to either.
[06:07] <Answer> yeah so it worked on my other laptop but not this one
[06:07] <Answer> I have all the repositories added exactly the same
[06:07] <Answer> got the cd in the drive
[06:07] <darkheart> Answer Did you run apt-get update?
[06:07] <Answer> one laptop sees freenx the other does not
[06:08] <Answer> Couldn't find package freenx
[06:08] <Kuolio> buah, still not transcode for amd64 :(
[06:08] <Kuolio> even in breezy
[06:08] <Answer> darkheart: can I scp packages between two ubuntus
[06:09] <meuserj|work> darkheart, it appears that seveas archive is broken
[06:09] <meuserj|work> getting 404 on Packages.gz
[06:09] <stelki> Hello, where do I see my root password? I dont think I set one during install?
[06:09] <vel> $sudo su
[06:09] <luckyaba> stelki: its the same as your user password
[06:10] <stelki> oh
[06:10] <stelki> thx
[06:10] <stelki> need to change that :o
[06:10] <darkheart> meuserj|work I just installed freenx from the backports repository.
[06:10] <luckyaba> lol
[06:10] <stelki> afaik root password shouldnt be the same as a users password
[06:10] <apokryphos> There is no root pass in Ubuntu
[06:11] <sewoyl> its just that your user is sudoable if thts a word
[06:11] <thoreauputic> !tell stelki about root
[06:11] <apokryphos> ...by default. Or, there is a scrambled one -- root account disabled, that is.
[06:11] <mirak> how is the called the world work ?
[06:11] <darkheart> Answer I suppose you could if you still have the file cached, but I don't know if it will update your apt database when you do that.
[06:11] <mirak> how is called this concept ?
[06:11] <stelki> thoreauputic, roger, will read that up, thd
[06:11] <robotgeek> ubotu network-manager is http://bootlab.org/~j/NetworkManager-breezy/
[06:11] <ubotu> okay, robotgeek
[06:12] <thoreauputic> stelki: lots of places use sudo - it has many advantages actually
[06:12] <robotgeek> stelki: even OS X uses sudo :)
[06:12] <stelki> didnt know =) thanks for the info
[06:14] <stelki> heh, sudo is nice, thanks again
[06:15] <Answer> darkheart: why cant apt-get or synaptic see freenx :(
[06:16] <thoreauputic> Answer: did you read the wiki page I posted from ubotu?
[06:17] <robotgeek> !tell me about network-manager
[06:17] <thoreauputic> ah .. Seveas' server has problems?
[06:18] <Answer> thoreauputic:  on one laptop, synaptic finds freenx.  on my other laptop, package not found...  thanks for the debs link tho
[06:18] <robotgeek> ubotu network-manager is Network-Manager will work only on breezy. You can install network-manager on breezy by following instructions at http://bootlab.org/~j/NetworkManager-breezy/ .
[06:18] <ubotu> robotgeek: I think you lost me on that one
[06:18] <thoreauputic> Answer: oh - that's odd
[06:18] <thoreauputic> Answer: and you're welcome
[06:19] <Answer> thoreauputic: all repositories are enabled, and both are even on the same network.  apt-get doesnt find the package either
[06:19] <thoreauputic> Answer: bizarre
[06:19] <stelki> !tell me about nvidia
[06:19] <thrush> looking for a usb or pcmcia bluetooth card for my laptop anyone know which ones have the best native support?
[06:19] <jack-> !tell me about vmware
[06:19] <robotgeek> !tell me about botabuse
[06:19] <Answer> ubotu != google !!!!
[06:20] <ubotu> Answer: Are you on ritalin?
[06:20] <stelki> sorry
[06:21] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[06:21] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, or better than SmarterChild
[06:21] <jack-> nice bot
[06:21] <Answer> !thanks
[06:21] <ubotu> no worries, Answer
[06:21] <thoreauputic> http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/  <---- list of factoids etc
[06:21] <jack-> !joint
[06:21] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, jack-
[06:21] <jack-> :P
[06:21] <Answer> !tell jack commands
[06:22] <Answer> !tell jack about commands
[06:22] <jack-> doesnt work
[06:22] <jack-> guess you'd have to specify jack- instead, d'oh
[06:23] <sewoyl> hey you english savy guys could help me! what does an analyst programmer do? analyse or analysis ?
[06:23] <jack-> analytics ;p
[06:23] <Answer> !tell jack- about commands
[06:23] <thoreauputic> that factoid is for shell commands actually
[06:23] <darkheart> sewoyl What exactly is the question? analysis is a noun, analyze is a verb.
[06:23] <thoreauputic> sewoyl: analysis = noun analyse = verb
[06:24] <sewoyl> darkheart, thoreauputic , jack- , i want to say 'i improved my an...... skill'
[06:24] <sewoyl> as an analystprogrammer
[06:24] <Answer> sewoyl: are you job searching?  ignore the titles they are meaningless and rarely reveal what you will be doing
[06:24] <jack-> after a while of anal-ytics
[06:24] <thoreauputic> sewoyl: analytical
[06:24] <jack-> i decided to stick with vaginalytics
[06:24] <jack-> :<
[06:24] <Krneki> hay
[06:24] <Krneki> i have problem
[06:25] <darkheart> sewoyl Yeah, what thoreauputic said, and I would probably say 'analytical skills' (added the s)
[06:25] <Answer> sewoyl: I improved my analytical prowess by carefully crafting my sentences
[06:25] <Krneki> configure: WARNING: cannot find setupterm - trying tgetent
[06:25] <Krneki> checking for tgetent in -ltermlib... no
[06:25] <Krneki> checking for tgetent in -ltermcap... no
[06:25] <Krneki> checking for tgetent in -lcurses... no
[06:25] <Krneki> configure: error: cannot find setupterm or tgetent
[06:25] <jack-> i have problem too, want mine? then you have two problem
[06:25] <Krneki> what do i have to install
[06:25] <sewoyl> darkheart, thoreauputic thanks!
[06:25] <thoreauputic> Krneki: do NOT paste in here
[06:25] <Krneki> soory
[06:25] <thoreauputic> !tell Krneki about paste
[06:25] <Krneki> does anyone know what has to be installed
[06:26] <rouven> does anybody no of a mail notification applet that uses evos "new mail" dbus message?
[06:26] <rouven> s/no/know
[06:27] <Krneki> am
[06:27] <Krneki> will anyone help please
[06:27] <apokryphos> Krneki: please do not paste in here
[06:27] <sewoyl> Krneki, maybe tgetent :)  i have no idea what that is
[06:27] <Krneki> i know now
[06:27] <Krneki> i am terrible sorrz
[06:28] <thoreauputic> Krneki: what are you trying to compile, and why?
[06:28] <Krneki> sorry
[06:28] <thoreauputic> indeed
[06:28] <Krneki> i trz to compile BitchX
[06:28] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:28] <thoreauputic> Krneki: it's in the repos
[06:28] <cogumbreiro> is there any reason to why locales do not work on breezy?
[06:28] <Krneki> what repos
[06:28] <darkheart> Krneki 'sudo apt-get install bitchx'
[06:28] <darkheart> !tell Krneki about repositories
[06:29] <storm99> hi
[06:29] <Krneki> aha
[06:29] <apokryphos> !info bitchx
[06:29] <ubotu> bitchx: (Advanced Internet Relay Chat client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1:1.0-0c19.20030512-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 1352 kB, Installed size: 6232 kB
[06:29] <apokryphos> Krneki: You will need to enable the Universe repository.
[06:29] <borfast> hi everyone
[06:29] <storm99> if i have 5.04 installed, can i make the upgrade of all the package in the distro to 5.10?
[06:29] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: beat me to it :)
[06:29] <Krneki> how to do that
[06:29] <thoreauputic> !tell Krneki about repos
[06:30] <darkheart> Krneki ubotu just sent you a message about it.
[06:30] <thrush> Krneki, you might sudo apt-get install build-essentials while youre at it.  Youll have more luck compiling stuff
[06:30] <apokryphos> Krneki: check the link ubotu just gave you.
[06:30] <Krneki> ok tnx
[06:30] <apokryphos> *build-essential. But, there's generally no need to compile if it's in the repos
[06:30] <Krneki> which link
[06:31] <thoreauputic> !repos
[06:31] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:31] <thoreauputic> Krneki: ^^^^
[06:31] <Krneki> aha tnx
[06:31] <pluffsy> I've tried using gnome gui "networking" and "dhclient eth0" in the cli to get dhcp to function. but it just won't. I've asked around and it seems like I'm doing nothing wrong. I'm running 5.04 without updates (since I can't connect). any ideas? please?
[06:31] <thoreauputic> Krneki: learn to check your /msg es :)
[06:31] <Krneki> i chechk them
[06:31] <Krneki> :(
[06:31] <pluffsy> some linux people say ubuntu is broken and I should try something else, but I really don't want to switch dist.
[06:31] <thoreauputic> Krneki: well ubotu sent you that link
[06:32] <Krneki> aha
[06:32] <Krneki> ok thanks guzs
[06:32] <sewoyl> pluffsy, well i dont think ubuntu is more broken than the people who tod you that!
[06:32] <sewoyl> told*
[06:32] <Krneki> cya soon with new problems
[06:32] <Krneki> :)
[06:32] <sewoyl> bye krn
[06:32] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: and how did they think ububuntu was broken?
[06:33] <thoreauputic> heh ubuntu
[06:33] <borfast> guys, I'm having a problem with Apache, it won't start and in the error log it complains about not being able to find the Apache2.pm perl module (I have libapache2-mod-perl2 installed). I should say that I upgraded to breezy last night, so I'm not sure if it's something related to that. does anyone know what's going on and/or how I can fir this?
[06:33] <pluffsy> something like it got weird config files and people with correctly configured systems have problems that usually are ubuntus fault.
[06:33] <pluffsy> do you have any idea of what can be wrong with dhcp?
[06:33] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: "some linux people" ? Which ones? and do they know Ubuntu?
[06:34] <pluffsy> thoreauputic: no idea, irc people. don't know them in real life.
[06:34] <pluffsy> but hey let's prove them wrong by fixing my broken dhcp :P
[06:34] <sewoyl> pluffsy, sorry if this sounds stupid but iyour network dhcp enabled ?
[06:34] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: well, best to listen to people who actually use Ubuntu, no?
[06:34] <vel> why is ubuntu cool?
[06:34] <sewoyl> is your* sory my keyboard is funny those days
[06:35] <bwlang> borfast: it's to generic... what's the actual error message?
[06:35] <BlueEagle> Got to love the package description for "Break the Ice" though. :)
[06:35] <pluffsy> sewoyl: yeah I'm using dhcp on my mac right now.
[06:35] <BlueEagle> "icebreaker" even
[06:35] <pc22> is there cdburning in ubuntu?
[06:35] <BlueEagle> pc22: Yes.
[06:35] <thoreauputic> pc22: sure
[06:35] <pc22> is there cdburning in ubuntu like nero?
[06:35] <BlueEagle> pc22: I prefer k3b for burning cds.
[06:36] <sewoyl> pc22, I use graveman on my laptop
[06:36] <bwlang> sewoyl: which dhcp client do you have installed?
[06:36] <pc22> sorry im just migrated from windows
[06:36] <thrush> pc22, gnomebaker or k3b
[06:36] <borfast> bwlang, there's two lines:
[06:36] <borfast> [error]  Can't locate Apache2.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_pe
[06:36] <borfast>  [error]  Can't load Perl module Apache2 for server localhost.localdomain:0, exiting...
[06:36] <BlueEagle> pc22: Need to install cdrtao too though.
[06:36] <thoreauputic> pc22: most people prefer k3b or graveman or gnomebaker
[06:36] <pluffsy> Sewoyl: when I type in what the dhcp server gives me by hand in ubuntu it works for a few minutes and then stops working. then I need to plug in my other machine where dhcp works to get a connection again.
[06:36] <sewoyl> bwlang, I just use the built in gnome/ubuntu thing
[06:36] <pc22> is that installed or do i have to update it?
[06:37] <BlueEagle> pc22: You will need to install k3b and cdrtao. Not sure about gnomebaker but I think it's optional as well.
[06:37] <thoreauputic> pc22: you can install any of those with the package manager
[06:37] <sewoyl> pluffsy, I'm not sure what you mean with 'what the dhcp server gives you by hand'
[06:37] <thoreauputic> BlueEagle:  *cdrdao
[06:37] <pc22> ok thanks. is that possible with data files?
[06:37] <BlueEagle> thoreauputic: Ahh, ofcourse.
[06:37] <BlueEagle> pc22: is what possible with data files?
[06:37] <thrush> pc22, if you just want to burn files to a cd you can do that from the file manager
[06:37] <thoreauputic> pc22: for data files you can use the built-in burner
[06:38] <pluffsy> sewoyl: the dhcp server gives me a gateway ip, my ip, etc. I used static and typed that in by hand in the ubuntu computer.
[06:38] <bwlang> borfast: okay - does that file exist on your system (use locate or find)
[06:38] <borfast> yes, it does
[06:38] <pc22> like image files
[06:38] <BlueEagle> bwlang: syntax for find can be tricky at times. Might want to give him an example.
[06:38] <borfast> in /usr/lib/perl5/Bundle/Apache2.pm
[06:38] <sewoyl> pluffsy, so it kindof works, the dhcp server assigns you an ip bu you can't co nnect is that right?
[06:38] <BlueEagle> pc22: iso images or jpg images? :p
[06:39] <pc22> jpg images
[06:39] <thoreauputic> pc22: you can type burn:/// in the file manager and drag and drop image files
[06:39] <pc22> or document files
[06:39] <BlueEagle> pc22: You can use the internal burner app for that.
[06:39] <quiet> isn't there some place in the wiki for adding additional repos...
[06:39] <borfast> I don't know how to add it to that @include path so that Apache finds it
[06:39] <quiet> that actually lists the repos.. not how to add them
[06:39] <pc22> thanks i will try
[06:39] <thoreauputic> !tell quiet about repos
[06:39] <pluffsy> sewoyl: dhcp doesn't work at all on the ubuntu computer, but on the same connection it works with my mac. but when I take the information dhcp provides my mac with and types it in myself on the ubuntu machine the network works under ubuntu for a few minutes.
[06:39] <sewoyl> the burn:// thing upset me one time because it doesn't append files o an existing cd :(
[06:40] <quiet> thanks thoreauputic
[06:40] <thoreauputic> quiet: look at the second URL for a list
[06:40] <quiet> yep
[06:40] <sewoyl> pluffsy, i dont think i can help you sorry :(
[06:40] <BlueEagle> sewoyl: It isn't multisession by default? (or at all??)
[06:41] <pc22> im currently on gnome if i downloaded using synaptic kde environment, how do i change from gnome to kde?
[06:41] <bwlang> borfast: you could try adding a temporary symlink from the Bundle dir to ..\
[06:41] <Riddell> pc22: change "session" before login
[06:41] <BlueEagle> pc22: On the logon screen under "session"
[06:41] <pluffsy> sewoyl: damn. damn damn. internet not working makes it so useless. think I should try to reinstall?
[06:41] <pc22> where can i find that?
[06:41] <thoreauputic> pc22: install kubuntu-desktop, and use the sessions list
[06:41] <sewoyl> BlueEagle, i dont think so, i had two files on a CDRW thn the next day i dragged a file in burn:// and clicked the 'burn' buton and all that was on my cd was .... that one last file :(
[06:42] <BlueEagle> sewoyl: Hmm.. ok. I've never used that, so I wouldn't know. :)
[06:42] <sewoyl> pluffsy, have you googled 'ubuntu your-cardname-or-model' ?
[06:43] <pluffsy> sewoyl: what cardname? like my ethernet card?
[06:43] <darkheart> pluffsy What is your set up?
[06:43] <pc22> can i see my open office files from linux in windows?
[06:43] <sewoyl> pluffsy, yes, just trying to give ome hints !
[06:44] <thrush> pluffsy, I had the same problem today worked fine for months and today I have jumped on several routers that I always use some worked some didnt..
[06:44] <pluffsy> sewoyl: I've been googling for dhcp probelms with ubuntu.haven't really found anything
[06:44] <sewoyl> pc22, ye theyre the same files!!
[06:44] <djm62> pc22: the best way is probably to have a FAT partition to share between both, or use a USB key for shared files.  Windows doesn't understand most linux filesystems
[06:45] <pluffsy> thrush: hmm weird. :(
[06:45] <darkheart> djm62 Are there any Linux filesystems that Windows does understand?
[06:45] <djm62> darkheart: basically, no.  I think you can do it with some serious effort, but it's less trouble to work round it :-/
[06:46] <pluffsy> darkheart: use fat on linux if you need it to work with windows. :/
[06:46] <sewoyl> djm62, I found a ext2 driver thatworks great!!
[06:46] <djm62> sewoyl: how easy is it to install etc?
[06:46] <Centaur5> My wireless card that worked in Hoary for some reason won't work in Breezy. It finds it and loads it but when I configure it the card doesn't seem to transmit anything. Anything I can do?
[06:46] <sewoyl> very easy i dont remember any problem
[06:46] <sewoyl> let met ry to dinf the site
[06:47] <darkheart> pluffsy I was trying to make a point, not asking for help =)
[06:47] <thrush> pluffsy, thinking about apt-getting dhcpcd..
[06:48] <djm62> darkheart: well, there is no "linux filesystem" ;)  you can run it from FAT if you want
[06:48] <pluffsy> thrush: yeah I wanted to try that too, but it said it needed to remove dhcp3-client and ubuntu-base. sounded kinda bad. or?
[06:48] <thoreauputic> darkheart: basically windows is brain-dead
[06:48] <pluffsy> basically.
[06:48] <darkheart> djm62 Yeah I know, but those were your words =)
[06:49] <darkheart> djm62 I was just poking at windows =0
[06:49] <darkheart> =)
[06:49] <darkheart> thoreauputic Exactry
[06:50] <thoreauputic> darkheart: windows will, however, happily wipe your linux install without asking any questions ;)
[06:50] <sewoyl> hmm cant find the site back all i know now is that i have a new 'IFS Dives' icon in my control panel
[06:50] <pluffsy> I think I'll try to reinstall... is that stupid?
[06:50] <sewoyl> aybe you can google that
[06:50] <darkheart> thoreauputic Hell, any non-Windows install it will be glad to clean up for you ;)
[06:51] <thoreauputic> darkheart: indeed :) Very accommodating, is windows </sarcasm>
[06:51] <DaSkreech> What would cause the right shift and right alt to not work under Ubuntu?
[06:51] <pluffsy> btw could networking be messed up if I don't have it connected during install?
[06:52] <thrush> pluffsy, just pulled it down nothing drastic happened ;)
[06:52] <pluffsy> thrush: did it say it needed to remove ubuntu-base for you?
[06:52] <thrush> pluffsy, yes
[06:52] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: possibly - it's better to have everything hooked up
[06:52] <thrush> pluffsy, but you only live once =)
[06:53] <pluffsy> thoreauputic: hmm just don't wanna be without networking on my other computer for 2 hours :(
[06:53] <pluffsy> thrush: hehe true. I tried doing it from the synaptic package manager, but that's exactly like apt-get:ing it from cli right?
[06:53] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: sincewhen does an Ubuntu install take two hours? Is this a slow machine?
[06:54] <pluffsy> thoreauputic: sort of. powerbook g3 400MHz, 192MB RAM.
[06:54] <thrush> pluffsy, yah
[06:54] <bwlang> pluffsy: i don't think you need to reinstall just to fix dhcp...
[06:54] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: slowish, yeah
[06:54] <bwlang> can you run dhcp manually?
[06:54] <pluffsy> bwlang: what do you mean with run dhcp manually?
[06:54] <bwlang> pluffsy: dhclient -i eth0 (or whatever)
[06:55] <djm62> pluffsy: sudo dhclient ethX, where X is probably 0
[06:55] <bwlang> pluffsy: no -i ... wrong dhcp client
[06:55] <pluffsy> djm62: yeah that's what I did and it said: http://sial.org/pbot/13098
[06:56] <djm62> pluffsy: what's your network like? do you have a router with dhcp?
[06:56] <pluffsy> djm62: I have an adsl modem. guess that is my dhcp server
[06:56] <djm62> ah...
[06:56] <bwlang> pluffsy: sounds like your dhcp server is a bit nonstandard...
[06:57] <pluffsy> bwlang: It did work on yellow dog linux on another machine though, and it works on my macosx computer.
[06:57] <pluffsy> yellow dog linux = redhat based ppc dist.
[06:58] <bwlang> pluffsy: it's possible that you can update the firmware on that device - otherwise you'll have to grab dhcpcd or pump to see if that works.  another thought... maybe the modem is only listening for one network card (the one on your mac)
[06:58] <bwlang> brb
[06:59] <pluffsy> bwlang: but if I type in the info I get from the dhcp server on the mac into the ubuntu computer it works (for a few minutes)
[06:59] <pluffsy> arr
[06:59] <djm62> pluffsy: try apt-getting and using pump
[07:00] <pluffsy> djm62: I'll give it a try and hope the network works long enough for that to work. you think I should try pump before I try dhcpcd?
[07:00] <squirrelpimp> If anyone has time, i'd like to ask a question about the current kernel in breezy.
[07:00] <djm62> pluffsy: pump's worked for me before...
[07:01] <pluffsy> djm62: and I should type pump -i eth0 right?
[07:01] <djm62> yeah, I think so
[07:01] <pluffsy> well. I give it a try. thanks for the help everybody. back in a while (sooner if it works :p)
[07:02] <robotgeek> ubotu network-manager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[07:02] <ubotu> ...but network-manager is already something else...
[07:02] <robotgeek> guys, how do i override this?
[07:03] <squirrelpimp> Has anyone else experienced problems with suspend-to-disk and the current breezy-kernel? Everytime i try to suspend the display gets black, but the device does not turn off:-(
[07:03] <DaSkreech> can I apt-get luminosity?
[07:03] <darkeagle> where I get more working sources to apt/sources.list?
[07:03] <__filip_> i have install linux-dc++, but when i try to download an file i always get an error could not open target file. what is wrong?
[07:04] <Fred|Fr3d> __filip_ check the permissions of where you're downloading the file to.
[07:04] <pc22> pluffsy: hi
[07:04] <__filip_> aha.
[07:04] <__filip_> thanx
[07:04] <Fred|Fr3d> and check the avaialble disk space too
[07:04] <Fred|Fr3d> no problem
[07:04] <Fred|Fr3d> available*
[07:05] <robotgeek> ubotu networkmanager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[07:05] <ubotu> robotgeek: okay
[07:05] <robotgeek> !networkmanager
[07:05] <ubotu> somebody said networkmanager was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[07:05] <saitrix> hi, i am new to using linux, and well i wanted to double check. Will it be fine installing Ubuntu onto a spare Hdd i have installed on my pc? Also does it have a bootloader (is that what its called?)
[07:06] <Lethal-Rocks> saitrix, Ubuntu uses GRUB bootloader by default
[07:06] <saitrix> as i want to still use windows for games
[07:06] <squirrelpimp> so no one using breezy here at all?
[07:06] <Lethal-Rocks> saitrix, It will find windows and add it too the list
[07:06] <pc22> how do i connect a printer from another ubuntu box?
[07:06] <saitrix> Ahh thanks Lethal-Rocks. :)
[07:07] <pc22> squirrelpimp: any difference from hoary?
[07:07] <Lethal-Rocks> saitrix, As for isnstalling it onto another HDD, that is also fine, it will still install grub only the mbr
[07:07] <squirrelpimp> pc22: difference? What do you mean?
[07:07] <__filip_> Fred|Fr3d: now it work :=)
[07:07] <pc22> interface?
[07:07] <pc22> design?
[07:08] <Fred|Fr3d> cool __filip_ :)
[07:08] <squirrelpimp> pc22: its the development branch, so i guess "yes"
[07:08] <saitrix> I suppose i need to format the Hdd from NTFS to FAT32?
[07:08] <squirrelpimp> pc22: has the new gnome...
[07:08] <k-0tik> new kernel
[07:08] <pc22> cool then
[07:08] <k-0tik> pc22, all the differences http://www.ubuntu.com/newsitems/5.10preview
[07:09] <saitrix> Oh yes thats a point, anyone have an estimate to when 5.10 is coming out?
[07:09] <pc22> if i update using synaptic?
[07:09] <thoreauputic> october 13
[07:09] <k-0tik> october 1
[07:09] <k-0tik> 3
[07:09] <squirrelpimp> so anyone else left with an idea?
[07:09] <pc22> will it change the interface too?
[07:10] <ompaul> on hoary an old wavelan-bronze worked took a minor amount of hacking - now with breezy not too happy at all
[07:10] <ompaul> now do I go back to hoary or get a new card ....
[07:10] <k-0tik> ompaul, dont 'liek breezy?
[07:10] <saitrix> Are there decent drivers for Ati Radeon's now?
[07:11] <MrGardenHoseMan> anyone know how to respond to irc's version command?
[07:11] <ompaul> k-0tik, no, breezy is not supporting the wireless card - or the card is stuffed
[07:11] <ompaul> k-0tik, this situation is something not to be happy about
[07:11] <thoreauputic> MrGardenHoseMan: your client responds automatically - or do you mean change the response?
[07:12] <djm62> ompaul: is it loading the same module as hoary?
[07:12] <MrGardenHoseMan> actually i just want to know how it does it, what the raw command is
[07:12] <ompaul> djm62, I think, if memory serves me correctly it wants to
[07:13] <thoreauputic> MrGardenHoseMan: /ctcp version  ?
[07:13] <MrGardenHoseMan> that easy?
[07:13] <ompaul> djm62, I remember doing some modprobing to get it going to start in the first case but nothing too mad
[07:13] <pluffsy> hmm now I'm on the ubuntu machine... I tried pump and it said operation failed, dhcpcd just returned after a while, no error msg. but my ping said network unreachable. right now I'm pinging a server every ten secs and typing in the ip data by hand. it seems to work, but I would rather have a less hacky solution.
[07:13] <thoreauputic> MrGardenHoseMan: what client are you using?
[07:14] <MrGardenHoseMan> xchat
[07:14] <ompaul> djm62,  now it auto detected but the module orinoco_cs is doing something wrong - cos it sure as *** is not loading
[07:14] <ompaul> emm let me check something
[07:14] <thoreauputic> MrGardenHoseMan: but xchat has a nice clicky thing to do that :)
[07:14] <djm62> ompaul: check the options you can pass to the module
[07:15] <ompaul> djm62, as spock says that would be logical :)
[07:15] <MrGardenHoseMan> lol yeah but i'm trying to implement the feature into a bot i'm trying to write
[07:15] <thoreauputic> MrGardenHoseMan: of course if you start versioning people you will get some grumpy responses ;)
[07:15] <baggins> hi. i'm having some trouble getting mysql working in php4+apache2.
[07:16] <djm62> I have an ancient card that I couldn't honestly identify, but brute luck has made it work on linux 2.4, linux 2.4 ARM, and Ubuntu, with various problems,  and a different module each time :-/
[07:16] <thoreauputic> MrGardenHoseMan: most irssi commands should work OK - look at http://f0rked.com/public/irssi-docs/help-full.html#SQUERY
[07:16] <glDaher> pppoe doesn't load at boot time, I ran pppoeconf  and it still doesn't work... when I do sudo pon dsl-provider manually it works... but it doesn't auto start
[07:16] <mkyb14> ok i setup ubuntu desktop and now how do i load it?
[07:16] <mkyb14> from console
[07:16] <__filip_> i know that it is an post in ubuntuforums that say how i can make an icon and if i drag an directory then i will run that directory like root, someone know where to find it? does it work in breezy
[07:16] <baggins> i have installed php4-mysql, but having restarted apache quite a few times, phpinfo still isn't saying it is loaded.
[07:16] <Lethal-Rocks> mkyb14, sudo gdm
[07:16] <tiefox> how do I install java plugin for firefox in breezy?
[07:17] <mkyb14> says gdm already running aborted
[07:17] <Lethal-Rocks> Well, do you see black or graphics?
[07:17] <heart_reaver> tiefox : go to http://ubuntuguide.org
[07:17] <djm62> mkyb14: if you do ctrl-alt-f7?
[07:18] <thoreauputic> MrGardenHoseMan: also be advised that there has been much tooth-gnashing among the ops about recent bot flooding - so if you intend to bring bots you might find them being summarily banned
[07:18] <heart_reaver> mplayer in gui not working
[07:18] <tiefox> hear_reaver  sun-j2re1.5  it is not found for installation
[07:18] <mkyb14> bunch of wierd letters and "i will disable this x server for now Restart GDM when i is configured correctly
[07:18] <ompaul> MrGardenHoseMan, and then see your ip banned as well
[07:19] <djm62> mkyb14: when did it last work?
[07:19] <MrGardenHoseMan> it's not for this channel
[07:19] <heart_reaver> tiefox : have u upgraded ur source list as given is ubuntu guide
[07:19] <MrGardenHoseMan> don't worry :P
[07:19] <mkyb14> never
[07:19] <djm62> mkyb14: and /etc/init.d/gdm restart produces the same again?
[07:19] <mkyb14> i just did /etc/init.d/gdm restart and it loaded
[07:19] <heart_reaver> mplayer in gui not working any comments
[07:19] <tiefox> i enabled universe and multiverse, im on breezy
[07:19] <heart_reaver> mplayer in gui not working any comments
[07:19] <djm62> mkyb14: so happy happy joy joy?
[07:19] <thoreauputic> MrGardenHoseMan: not worried - a kickban is done in a fraction of a second :)
[07:20] <MrGardenHoseMan> hehe
[07:20] <mkyb14> yes, now just to get things to normal seeing as the install coudn't install intrd tools or something
[07:20] <ompaul> thoreauputic, you got voice enabled there?
[07:21] <thoreauputic> ompaul: well, I'm about to turn in for the night, to be honest :)
[07:21] <mkyb14> why would ubuntu only let the screen resolution be 640x480????
[07:21] <ompaul> no worries
[07:21] <heart_reaver> tiefox : breezy have broken packages n all the things ie dependency are not good so better u go back to ur previous ubuntu
[07:21] <mkyb14> it won't let me choose a higher resolution
[07:21] <apokryphos> mkyb14: because X doesn't have the drivers
[07:21] <pluffsy> hmmm should I setup my repositiories differently. because now the first time I run software update it says "my system is up to date" and well I guess there most be some security updates since 2005/04
[07:22] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell mkyb14 about resolution
[07:22] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: 'night =)
[07:22] <robotgeek_away> thoreauputic,ompaul : do u know how to overwrite a ubotu description?
[07:22] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: 'night :)
[07:22] <apokryphos> robotgeek_away: yes, type "no X is <something"
[07:23] <robotgeek_away> ubotu no network-manager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[07:23] <ubotu> okay, robotgeek_away
[07:23] <robotgeek_away> !network-manager
[07:23] <ubotu> [network-manager]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[07:23] <robotgeek_away> apokryphos: thanks
[07:24] <heart_reaver> mplayer in gui not working any comments
[07:25] <apokryphos> heart_reaver: you'd have to of course give a lot more information than that
[07:25] <djm62> heart_reaver: be more descriptive: is it starting up? does plain mplayer work?
[07:25] <heart_reaver> mplayer in gui not working it says no video output but works in terminal
[07:26] <arachnion> are there known issues about ubuntu and mysql servers? something to do with mysql.sock?
[07:26] <djm62> heart_reaver: so you can access the preferences dialogue?  gmplayer uses different preferences to mplayer, apparently
[07:26] <heart_reaver> yes
[07:27] <heart_reaver> djm62: what to do for that
[07:27] <putz_kinhu> I have a problem on increasing my video resolution, anyone can help me?
[07:27] <apokryphos> putz_kinhu: state the problem
[07:27] <djm62> heart_reaver: try different video settings in the prefs dialogue: it's probably trying to use something that your system doesn't support
[07:27] <djm62> heart_reaver: there aren't many of them, and when you've set it, you've set it
[07:27] <heart_reaver> djm62: i had configured a lot selected most options but, no good
[07:28] <putz_kinhu> i instaled the ubuntu, and the screen was set 1280x1024 but the video was partially working, when a reduce to 1014x768 it becomes fine
[07:28] <djm62> heart_reaver: SDL is usually workable, in my experience
[07:28] <heart_reaver> djm62: describe SDL plz
[07:28] <djm62> heart_reaver: also, you may need to restart gmplayer for the changes to take effect: so it might have seemed like it wasn't working
[07:28] <putz_kinhu> I also tried 1152x768 but the max refrefh was 55hz T_T
[07:28] <pluffsy> btw when I put in a dvd totem automatically starts but then it quits saying couldn't create gstreamer object. that happens if I just start totem myself too.
[07:29] <Skaja> i tryed alot of things to get my 56k modem to work in ubuntu but nothing seems to work
[07:29] <pluffsy> I'm downloading 156MB updates right now, let's hope that solves it :p
[07:29] <heart_reaver> djm62: i had restarted after each setting configuration
[07:29] <Skaja> i tryed ltmodem cant get it to install
[07:29] <djm62> pluffsy: have you done the RestrictedFormats stuff from the wiki?
[07:30] <Skaja> i dont know what to do?
[07:30] <djm62> heart_reaver: can you find out what console mplayer is using?
[07:32] <putz_kinhu> apokryphos, do u know how to solve this inconveniece?
[07:32] <djm62> heart_reaver: less /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[07:32] <x-pert> hey
[07:32] <x-pert> i have a printer in my pc
[07:32] <x-pert> and in hte other pc with linux ubuntu
[07:33] <x-pert> e sent something to print in this pc
[07:33] <x-pert> (by a local network - router)
[07:33] <x-pert> the documents appear in the printing list
[07:33] <x-pert> but they do bnot print
[07:33] <heart_reaver> djm62: i had read n modifed some of conf file but no good for gui
[07:33] <x-pert> can the problem have to do with anything else but the printer?
[07:33] <apokryphos> putz_kinhu: what do you mean by "partially working"?
[07:33] <mkyb14> ok i have a visiontek g-card but can't find it on the supported list ... visiontek model NV996.0
[07:33] <mkyb14> i know it's a 32mb card
[07:33] <apokryphos> x-pert: not a good idea to flood the channel.
[07:34] <djm62> heart_reaver: the conf for the gui is separate, in ~/.mplayer/gui.conf
[07:34] <Skaja> is there a help page for ubuntu
[07:34] <x-pert> sorry
[07:34] <putz_kinhu> apokryphos, seems that is raining inseide the screen.....
[07:34] <heart_reaver> ok
[07:34] <djm62> heart_reaver: make that match the config which works for normal mplayer, and you should be sorted
[07:34] <apokryphos> putz_kinhu: your monitor definitely supports 1280?
[07:35] <putz_kinhu> yes, i use that resolution on windows XP
[07:35] <djm62> heart_reaver: vo_driver=........
[07:35] <putz_kinhu> and i use 1152x768 with 70 hz too
[07:35] <pluffsy> djm62: right. haven't done that yet. but I guess totem should atleast be able to start without that?
[07:36] <pluffsy> djm62: it crashes when I just launches it without trying to open anything
[07:36] <apokryphos> putz_kinhu: what refresh rate on 1280?
[07:36] <mkyb14> if i have 32mb how many kb is that ???? its asking
[07:36] <putz_kinhu> apokryphos, lemme see
[07:36] <djm62> pluffsy: in my experience totem is quite crashy, but some people rave about it :-/
[07:36] <putz_kinhu> apokryphos, 60HZ on 1280
[07:36] <apokryphos> mkyb14: 1 megabyte = 1000 kilobytes
[07:37] <apokryphos> putz_kinhu: what inch monitor? Sounds ok.
[07:37] <djm62> 32768
[07:37] <mkyb14> thought it was 1024
[07:37] <mkyb14> =mb
[07:37] <putz_kinhu> apokryphos, LG  T710SH
[07:37] <ofer0> hi
[07:37] <ofer0> how can i change my local ip?
[07:37] <putz_kinhu> apokryphos, LG  T710SH 17''
[07:38] <apokryphos> putz_kinhu: weird. It *should* be ok.
[07:38] <Skaja> i tryed alot of things to get my 56k modem to work in ubuntu but nothing seems to work
[07:38] <Kira> Hello, has anybody been able to setup a PPPoE connection over WiFi in Ubuntu?
[07:38] <djm62> Skaja: is it a winmodem?
[07:38] <mkyb14> ?
[07:38] <djm62> Skaja: it might be a lost cause :(
[07:38] <apokryphos> putz_kinhu: what card?
[07:38] <Skaja> it supports linux i dont know
[07:39] <putz_kinhu> apokryphos, GeForco4 mx440 128mb agp8x
[07:39] <heart_reaver> djm62: error is like : Error opening/initializing the selected video_output(-vo) device
[07:39] <erchache> hi
[07:39] <apokryphos> putz_kinhu: got the nvidia drivers installed?
[07:39] <djm62> heart_reaver: even when you make it match the one that works for plain mplayer?
[07:39] <erchache> how i can install truetype fonts without x.org files dependences?
[07:39] <awormus> anyone want to hold the hand of a n00b in setting up his laptop's wifi?
[07:39] <erUSUL> ofer0: man ifconfig ;) ifconfig eth0 x.x.x.x should do
[07:40] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell awormus about wifi
[07:40] <putz_kinhu> apokryphos, in my conf semms to be detected my videocard and my monitor correctly
[07:40] <heart_reaver> djm62: how to do that match
[07:40] <apokryphos> putz_kinhu: you could have problems if you didn't specifically install the nvidia drivers, though.
[07:40] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell putz_kinhu about nvidia
[07:41] <Skaja> i went to my modem faq page
[07:41] <djm62> heart_reaver: as a normal user, gedit ~/.mplayer/gui.conf
[07:41] <ofer0> erUSUL, i want to do it thru a GUI, because i kinda know all the manpages for "route" and "ifconfig". i read it 200 times and i just cant do it from there. btw i want to do some more things like adding a different gateway, changing subnet mask and more changes that will be a headache in command line.
[07:41] <djm62> and make vo_driver match the one in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[07:41] <putz_kinhu> apokryphos, the i have to install nvidia drivers
[07:41] <ep> I had to kill a 3d game and now my screen resolution is  hosed.  How can I reset it to the default value. (KDE btw).
[07:41] <apokryphos> putz_kinhu: eh?
[07:41] <kangpeh> I'm using Breezy and Evolution won't show my IMAP inbox contents.  It shows the other folders in the IMAP account, but no files in the Inbox show.
[07:42] <djm62> ep: start another 3d game and exit it normally?
[07:42] <djm62> or ctrl-alt-f1 ctrl-alt-f7
[07:42] <heart_reaver> djm62: :P ok thanks
[07:42] <heart_reaver> djm62: :P ok thanks
[07:42] <pc22> kde or gnome?
[07:42] <erUSUL> ofer0: System -> Administration -> Network i thought this will be the first you've tried
[07:43] <putz_kinhu> apokryphos, i 'll try this one thanks for your time
[07:43] <Determinist> good evening
[07:43] <ofer0> erUSUL, can you please check if this is what im looking for? i am using windows from another computer because i cant connect to the internet in ubuntu
[07:43] <ep> ctrl-alt-f1 and f7 doesn't change the resolution.  I'll try method starting a 3d game
[07:43] <Flying-Penguin> what is a good program for editing my gnome pannles?
[07:43] <ofer0> erUSUL, i need to change my ip and gateway.. these are my main problems
[07:44] <djm62> Flying-Penguin: other than right-clicking on some free panel space and editing it?
[07:44] <Skaja> who uses ltmodem with ubuntu 5.04
[07:44] <ep> hmm thats not working either.   Its like the 3d game restores it to whatever it was upon startup
[07:45] <erUSUL> ofer0: not really i'm connected with modem (ppp0) configured with pppconfig
[07:45] <ep> This is a home machine, i can always reboot, but thats not the linux way:)
[07:45] <KillerBOB> hi all, I have a question: I've been away from my ubunru hoary since sunday, and now I have a lot of X-related updates available. I first upgraded all of them and it broke my X =( It even gave errors when running apt-get
[07:45] <erchache> how i can install truetype fonts without X.org? apt install x.org like a dependence
[07:46] <pr0tocol> hey all whats going on
[07:46] <KillerBOB> luckily i had a recent backup, so my system is up and running again =)
[07:46] <kangpeh> I'm using Breezy and Evolution won't show my IMAP inbox contents.  It shows the other folders in the IMAP account, but no files in the Inbox show.
[07:46] <pr0tocol> I have a quick question:
[07:46] <Flying-Penguin> djm62: yes... I saw someone say one befor
[07:46] <ep> how do I shutdown and restart X without rebooting?
[07:46] <k-0tik> killlerbob what do you use to backup yoru system?
[07:46] <pr0tocol> I just upgraded to Breezy yesterday and X won't start anymore...tells me something about "same driver version"
[07:47] <KillerBOB> k-0tik, I used a full disk-image backup with acronis true image
[07:47] <djm62> ep: either ctrl-alt-backspace or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:47] <k-0tik> cool
[07:47] <pr0tocol> any ideas guys?
[07:48] <pr0tocol> Is there a problem with the nvidia drivers in Breezy?
[07:48] <KillerBOB> k-0tik, I wanted to use mondo for backups, but it gave me some trouble =( btw, mondo is open.source while Acronis is not =(
[07:48] <k-0tik> yae i see that
[07:48] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: they tend to work, but there's still a few problems with renderaccel in xorg I take it.
[07:48] <Skaja> i looked at all of the docs i can find
[07:48] <k-0tik> i was just looking aound for a good backup system
[07:48] <djm62> Skaja: read this page http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21312.html
[07:48] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: they have generally been working for most days though
[07:48] <djm62> Skaja: read it all before you do stuff, but it looks like it might be your modem
[07:49] <KillerBOB> So, is it only me who is having major trouble with the latest libx* and xlib* packages with Hoary?
[07:49] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: yea, but in my case, X won't start at all.  Tells me something about the kernel module and nvidia driver being the same version
[07:49] <pr0tocol> so...I'm stuck using the console :P
[07:49] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: hm. Have you tried reconfiguring your X?
[07:50] <pc22> how do i mount my other partition?
[07:50] <Skaja> i looked at that once it confuses me
[07:50] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: hmm...how
[07:50] <djm62> pr0tocol: you could use the free nvidia drivers as a stopgap... nv?
[07:50] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:50] <apokryphos> pc22: what filesystem? fat/ntfs ?
[07:50] <pr0tocol> hmm okee
[07:50] <pc22> fat
[07:50] <apokryphos> !windowsdrives
[07:50] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[07:50] <pr0tocol> djm62: what do you mean?
[07:51] <apokryphos> pc22: check that link; you can use it and it will do it all automatically for you.
[07:51] <pc22> thanks
[07:51] <djm62> pr0tocol: oh, damn.  are you using an nvidia card?
[07:51] <Skaja> i can see my modem in the place it all of the hardware
[07:52] <pr0tocol> djm62: yup
[07:52] <AzMoo> Can Totem do subtitles?
[07:52] <Flying-Penguin> how would I make imwheel start with my computer?
[07:52] <Flying-Penguin> what do I edit
[07:53] <djm62> pr0tocol: there are official binary drivers, which you need to compile against your kernel (so they match).  or there are community-maintained drivers (which will work, but aren't as good as the official nvidia ones in terms of speed)
[07:53] <pr0tocol> damn
[07:53] <pr0tocol> this sucks ass
[07:53] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: did you try what I said?
[07:53] <neiras> Hello - I cannot get X to start under Breezy. The error is 'default font 'fixed' not found', but all my font paths are correct. What's going on?
[07:54] <apokryphos> neiras: same for you -- have you tried reconfiguring your X?
[07:54] <neiras> Yes, no luck at all
[07:54] <Flying-Penguin> what do I edit to make things start with X?
[07:54] <neiras> I've reinstalled X, stripped my system down to ubuntu-minimal and reinstalled everything
[07:55] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: yup
[07:55] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: same problem
[07:55] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: can you pastebin the error output, then?
[07:55] <djm62> pr0tocol: you could get the nvidia drivers and do the jigging, or use the Free ones and wait for a package or Breezy-Nvidia-howto to appear
[07:55] <pr0tocol> hmm
[07:55] <neiras> What's weird is, my other two boxes upgraded to Breezy without a hitch
[07:55] <pr0tocol> I might just use the standard nv drivers rather than nvidia...
[07:56] <pr0tocol> think that will work?
[07:56] <apokryphos> nv aren't really the "standard" drivers
[07:56] <lsuactiafner> use vesa not nv
[07:56] <pr0tocol> vesa...
[07:56] <apokryphos> it's worth having a go with them or another generic driver if that doesn't work
[07:56] <pr0tocol> hmm
[07:56] <pr0tocol> brb
[07:58] <pr0tocol> nothing is working...
[07:58] <pr0tocol> *sigh*
[07:58] <pr0tocol> this is going to take forever
[07:58] <theShtorm> anyone knows how to change that annoying welcome message when connecting via ssh?  doesn't look like its comming from .bashrc
[07:59] <neiras> theShtorm: /etc/motd?
[07:59] <Skaja> i'm going to try my other modems
[08:00] <pr0tocol> what does it mean when it says "Unable to find a valid framebuffer device"?
[08:00] <theShtorm> neiras: yup, thanks
[08:00] <[Wiebel] > hello :)
[08:00] <neiras> Does anyone know where the default 'fixed' font for X is? is it a type1, a 100dpi or 75dpi...?
[08:01] <djm62> theShtorm: or /etc/issue /etc/issue.net
[08:01] <pr0tocol> anyone?
[08:02] <Answer> pr0tocol: what are you trying to do...
[08:02] <djm62> no, scratch that
[08:02] <pr0tocol> Answer: trying to get X to work :P
[08:03] <djm62> neiras: for X? or for gnome etc?  Xresources
[08:03] <Answer> !x
[08:03] <ubotu> x is, like, the Linux GUI system. You can find it at http://www.x.org
[08:03] <pr0tocol> Answer: umm... yea.  I know what X is...the question is, how do I get it up and running again?
[08:04] <Answer> pr0tocol: undid whatever you broke.
[08:04] <neiras> djm62: Yes, for X
[08:04] <Lethal-Rocks> pr0tocol, And then run either gdm or kdm as root ;)
[08:04] <neiras> djm62: I'm stuck in text mode at the moment
[08:04] <djm62> neiras: /etc/X11/Xresources, or your own .Xresources file, and the config is fairly hairy
[08:04] <pr0tocol> Answer: that would actually be downgrading back to Hoary (which I wouldn't mind doing); but I don't know how to do that :\
[08:04] <neiras> djm62: X can't find the fixed font so I can't start it
[08:04] <djm62> oh
[08:05] <djm62> neiras: so you don't really want to do customisation, you just want it to work?
[08:05] <Cryptid> I downloaded mlDonkey but after installation i cant find it ne where what do i do
[08:05] <neiras> djm62: Yes. Strangely, all my font paths appear to be correct
[08:05] <darkheart> Cryptid Try typing 'killall gnome-panel' in a console.
[08:05] <djm62> neiras: did something go wrong with the install? or was it working, and then it broke?
[08:05] <crtr> how can I delete a directory ?
[08:05] <Cryptid> darkheart what will thst do
[08:06] <crtr> rm -d  ?
[08:06] <darkheart> Cryptid Restart your gnome-panel and reload the menus.
[08:06] <neiras> djm62: THe install went fine (a dist-upgrade to breezy)
[08:06] <djm62> neiras: oh...
[08:06] <darkheart> crtr rm -r
[08:06] <Cryptid> ok
[08:06] <pr0tocol> It's sad that vesa nor nv won't work either..lmao
[08:06] <neiras> djm62: But then X didn't come up on reboot, so here I am
[08:06] <djm62> neiras: is it a known breezy bug of the day?
[08:06] <darkheart> crtr You can find info on a command using 'man' so 'man rm' gives you the options.
[08:07] <pr0tocol> hey darkheart, wassup
[08:07] <darkheart> pr0tocol Hey, what's up
[08:07] <crtr> 10q
[08:07] <neiras> djm62: I can't tell, I'm stuck in a text console.
[08:07] <Answer> Question: Is there a command line IRC program?
[08:07] <djm62> neiras: apt-get install links
[08:08] <pr0tocol> darkheart: lmao, well besides this X problem, nothing much really.  Back to the old days of using console for now till I can get X up and running again :>
[08:08] <arachnion> Answer,
[08:08] <djm62> Answer: apt-get install irssi
[08:08] <arachnion> yes
[08:08] <pr0tocol> Answer: yup. irssi
[08:08] <pr0tocol> and BitchX
[08:08] <Answer> Thanks: irssi a console irc client
[08:08] <Answer> !irssi
[08:08] <ubotu> irssi is probably http://f0rked.com/core/irssi
[08:08] <djm62> neiras: links is a good command line web browser
[08:08] <neiras> djm62: Yeah, fired it up and am browsing around
[08:08] <darkheart> pr0tocol Hehe, that's why I don't bother upgrading until a stable release comes out ;)
[08:08] <pr0tocol> djm62: kind of a headache after a while :>
[08:09] <pr0tocol> darkheart: you know anything about 'downgrading'?
[08:09] <Krneki> hay guz how do i install tcl on ubuntu
[08:09] <djm62> pr0tocol: I find it kind of nice...doesn't keep me off firefox, right enough
[08:09] <Answer> pr0tocol: reboot from the hoary install cd
[08:09] <arachnion> hello everyone, having problems getting my mysql server started, apparently I need to edit permissions on gateway 113
[08:09] <arachnion> how do I do that?
[08:09] <Cryptid> is there a Basic compiler for ubuntu
[08:09] <pr0tocol> Answer: and do what? re-install Hoary?
[08:09] <ubu_noob> hi guys im trying to mount a windows ntfs partition so i can view its contents in ubuntu.  I used the commands mkdir /mnt/myxp and then /mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/myxp but it does not seem to be working.
[08:09] <darkheart> pr0tocol Hehe, not something you want to do really...just end up breaking more things. What's the error that you get anyway?
[08:10] <djm62> Cryptid: do you have existing code? or do you just want to use basic?
[08:10] <pr0tocol> djm62: it's not bad using console. MEMOOORIES :D Plus it makes me feel l337 again lol
[08:10] <Krneki> how to install tcl
[08:10] <darkheart> ubu_noob /mount ins't a command.
[08:10] <ubu_noob> not /mount   just sudo mount
[08:10] <Cryptid> i have a .BAS file that i want to compile
[08:10] <ubu_noob> sorry
[08:10] <darkheart> ubu_noob It's gonna be something like 'mount -t ntfs /dev/sda5 /mnt/myxp'
[08:10] <pr0tocol> darkheart: something about the kernel version and the nvidia module not being the same version
[08:10] <djm62> pr0tocol: mpg321 Matrix_Soundtrack/* &
[08:10] <Cryptid> djm62, i have a .BAS file that i want to compile
[08:10] <darkheart> pr0tocol There aren't any nvidia packages you can upgrade as well?
[08:10] <Answer> nvidia-glz
[08:10] <Answer> nvidia-glx
[08:11] <Answer> !nvidia-glz
[08:11] <ubotu> Answer: Are you on ritalin?
[08:11] <Answer> !nvidia-glx
[08:11] <ubotu> Answer: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:11] <pr0tocol> djm62: lol. I'm listening to Voodoo People - Eskimo remix :P
[08:11] <pr0tocol> darkheart: nope.
[08:11] <erUSUL> Cryptid: try gambas but i doubt you can compile a win *.bas in linux
[08:11] <pr0tocol> darkheart: As a matter of fact, Breezy I think upgraded it and messed it up
[08:11] <DaSkreech> Does apt-get work with Dial up?
[08:12] <pr0tocol> DaSkreech: yup
[08:12] <djm62> Cryptid: I don't think it's going to happen
[08:12] <tag> DaSkreech: yes, slowly
[08:12] <Answer> DaSkreech: does naything work with dialup
[08:12] <pr0tocol> DaSkreech: it's going to be veeeery slow,though
[08:12] <tag> DaSkreech: no reason it wouldn't
[08:12] <erUSUL> Cryptid: you'll have to rewritte the thing
[08:12] <djm62> DaSkreech: apt-zip if you have a faster connection on another machine
[08:12] <erUSUL> DaSkreech: yes why not?
[08:12] <darkheart> pr0tocol Ouch >< If no one can help you with that in here, I guess best bet is to reinstall hoary. Shouldn't be too painful.
[08:13] <Cryptid> is there a P2P application like Limewire for ubuntu
[08:13] <djm62> pr0tocol: if you can back up $HOME, a hoary install is only an hour...you've spent half of that in IRC already
[08:13] <Answer> hah
[08:13] <Answer> woulda been done by now
[08:13] <ofer0> guys please help.. i forgot the name of the program that can change my gateway and local ip address =\
[08:13] <erUSUL> Cryptid: yes Limewire is in java and crossplataform
[08:13] <DaSkreech> My Friend is trying it over dial up and it doesn't seem to be seeing anything
[08:13] <djm62> Cryptid: LimeWire has a notable similarity to LimeWire
[08:13] <Answer> ofer0: man ifconfig     man iwconfig
[08:13] <pr0tocol> darkheart: ummm no thanks.  i have tons of work/code saved up on this biatch.  And I'll wait forever till I can fix this thing
[08:13] <ofer0> guys please help.. i forgot the name of the program that can change my gateway and local ip address =\ its a gnome program.. something like gnome-network-admin
[08:14] <Answer> ofer0: man ifconfig     man iwconfig      don't spam :)
[08:14] <djm62> ofer0: System->Administration->Networking
[08:14] <Cryptid> djm62 "LimeWire has a notable similarity to LimeWire".Huh?
[08:14] <djm62> Cryptid: it runs on linux
[08:14] <pr0tocol> can I just wait for the stable release, THEN do a dist-upgrade now?
[08:14] <darkheart> pr0tocol Hehe, well, I set up my systems so that /home is a separate partition, that way, if anything messes up, I just have to back up my /etc dir (if i want to system settings) and then just reinstall and don't format /home...almost like nothing happened.
[08:14] <ofer0> Answer: i wasnt spamming. i added something. anyway: ifconfig cant change my gateway.. thanx anyway
[08:15] <neiras> what are "defoma" fonts?
[08:15] <ubu_noob> How do i unmount an ntfs partition?
[08:15] <Answer> !umount
[08:15] <ubotu> Answer: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[08:15] <Answer> man umount
[08:15] <ofer0> djm62: can you please enter this program and tell me what its name?
[08:15] <tag> neiras: defoma is the debian font manager
[08:15] <erUSUL> DaSkreech: i do everyting over dialup
[08:15] <darkheart> pr0tocol That was 'if i want to *save* system settings'
[08:15] <Cryptid> djm62, can i get in syanptic or on its official site(limewire site)
[08:15] <apokryphos> Answer: better to investigate with the bot in /msg
[08:15] <pr0tocol> darkheart: If Im not mistaken, I think I too keep /home in a seperate partition
[08:15] <Answer> apokryphos: but then the bot makers wouldnt know what I want implemented.
[08:15] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Cryptid about limewire
[08:15] <darkheart> pr0tocol Check your /etc/fstab, it will tell you.
[08:16] <djm62> Cryptid: get it in the official site, then add a shortcut icon to the panel and forget about it
[08:16] <ubu_noob> Once mounted, how do i view the mounted partition... its not showing on my desktop
[08:16] <apokryphos> Answer: everyone can contribute to the bot's knowledge
[08:16] <apokryphos> Answer: /msg ubotu help
[08:16] <pr0tocol> yup
[08:16] <mirak> hi
[08:16] <pr0tocol> darkheart: it's on another partition :P
[08:16] <mirak> is jbailey around ?
[08:17] <darkheart> pr0tocol Well, all your personal files should be stored there (unless you have a strange fetish of leaving your files in inappropriate places on the system)
[08:17] <djm62> ofer0: gnome-network-preferences
[08:17] <darkheart> pr0tocol And all (most) of the system settings are in /etc if you want to back that up.
[08:17] <Centaur5> What is a good program to use to play dvd's?
[08:17] <pr0tocol> darkheart: I've been linux'ing for 5 years... I'm not THAT dumb..hehehe
[08:17] <apokryphos> ubu_noob: make a shortcut to it if you want it on the desktop
[08:17] <darkheart> pr0tocol If you do decide to reinstall, just make *sure* you dont' format your /home partition.
[08:17] <erUSUL> Centaur5: xine
[08:17] <djm62> Centaur5: vlc has menu support and is generally nice
[08:17] <darkheart> pr0tocol Hehe okay, didn't know that.
[08:17] <ubu_noob> It says i do not have access to view the file contents
[08:17] <djm62> Centaur5: they're all free, try before you buy
[08:18] <darkheart> pr0tocol Sometimes hanging out in this channel my perception of others' linux skills is skewed.
[08:18] <Centaur5> haha, I'll try them out then
[08:18] <pr0tocol> darkheart: as I said. I might just wait till the *stable* version of breezy is released and just run an apt-get upgrade thingy
[08:18] <Centaur5> thanks, the default program in ubuntu doesn't work
[08:18] <DaSkreech> When he tries to apt-get install anythign over dial up he gets these two errors
[08:18] <djm62> ubotu tell Centaur5 about RestrictedFormats
[08:19] <DaSkreech> Package lynx is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:19] <DaSkreech> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:19] <DaSkreech> is only available from another source
[08:19] <pr0tocol> darkheart: it's not that I don't have "linux skills", it's just when you try to work on a problem so much, and you can't get it, it's always best to ask around.
[08:19] <feugan3333> Hi all. I'm having a problem with xmms, it just hangs as soon as I try to play an mp3. Any suggestions?
[08:19] <DaSkreech> E: Package lynx has no installation candidate
[08:19] <darkheart> pr0tocol =) that's an idea...you just gonna work in the console the whole time?
[08:19] <DaSkreech> Oh
[08:19] <DaSkreech> DIdn't know it would do that
[08:19] <darkheart> DaSkreech Don't paste in here.
[08:19] <DaSkreech> Sorry
[08:19] <djm62> !RestrictedFormats
[08:19] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[08:19] <DaSkreech> It was one line
[08:19] <darkheart> DaSkreech Haha np.
[08:19] <pr0tocol> darkheart: doesn't bother me any.  I have irc, mpg123, vim and the links
[08:19] <pr0tocol> what else do I need? ;)
[08:19] <apokryphos> DaSkreech: no, it was more than that.
[08:19] <[Wiebel] > hmm
[08:20] <erUSUL> DaSkreech: this error have nothing to do with dial up the package does not exist
[08:20] <feugan3333> Thanks
[08:20] <DaSkreech> I changed it to x
[08:20] <darkheart> pr0tocol Hehe, I can only take so much text web browsing =P everything else is fine though.
[08:20] <[Wiebel] > there is an issue with totem, if a video stream exists out of more then one stream, only the first one is played
[08:20] <DaSkreech> any package he tries will return that
[08:20] <Answer> DaSkreech:  apt-get update
[08:21] <DaSkreech> Doesn't work
[08:21] <DaSkreech> It just returns done
[08:21] <erUSUL> DaSkreech: a problem with repos? apt-get update?
[08:21] <Answer> DaSkreech: are you sure you're connected?  apt-get update    should check repos
[08:21] <erUSUL> !tell DaSkreech about repos
[08:22] <djm62> wow, breezy sounds pretty hirsute considering it's one month 'til release
[08:22] <DaSkreech> Well he's online talking to me now
[08:22] <Krneki> hay can i ask something is there possiblie if i do DMZ on my linux ubuntu server that this server will send all connection to 4321 port to one other pc in mz home network
[08:22] <pr0tocol> darkheart: meh, doesn't bother me any.
[08:22] <apokryphos> Seems to be a lot less stable than hoary was at this time, unfortunately.
[08:22] <pr0tocol> darkheart: I say that every linux noob should start off with the console if they wanna learn Linux
[08:22] <tear> whats the command to update my get lists?
[08:23] <pr0tocol> imo
[08:23] <DaSkreech> tear: apt-get update
[08:23] <Answer> !apt-get
[08:23] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, apt-get is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[08:23] <kangpeh> !evolution broken inbox imap
[08:23] <ubotu> kangpeh: I don't know, could you explain it?
[08:24] <djm62> pr0tocol: I did that
[08:24] <darkheart> pr0tocol Yeah, I think so as well, the problem with some people though is that they just want Linux to work.
[08:24] <DaSkreech> Answer: Maybe he should deactivate the network card?
[08:24] <tear> thanks
[08:24] <djm62> pr0tocol: I worked out ctrl-alt-f1...and had to learn how to install links and use links to find out how to ctrl-alt-f7 :-/
[08:24] <darkheart> pr0tocol Don't really care about learning
[08:24] <tear> brain standstill
[08:24] <pr0tocol> darkheart: yup.  Right now, like I said, I can give two craps about X.  It would be NICE don't get me wront, but I don't mind working in console
[08:25] <pr0tocol> djm62: lol
[08:25] <Krneki> can anyone at least answer me
[08:25] <djm62> that was back in the day...
[08:25] <pr0tocol> the great thing about console is the ctrl-alt-F buttons...
[08:25] <pr0tocol> commands***
[08:25] <erUSUL> Krneki: yes i use firehol to set up iptables you can use this or firstarter or shorewall
[08:25] <mik3> are there any other wysiwyg html editors other than nvu?
[08:26] <erUSUL> Krneki: google arround about NAT and forwarding with iptables
[08:26] <djm62> mik3: yes...linux magazine has a feature on them, I'll just grab it
[08:27] <pr0tocol> brb
[08:28] <Answer> Question: Why won't freenx show up in Synaptic (yes all repositories selected)
[08:28] <michele> hello
[08:28] <DaSkreech> HI
[08:28] <DaSkreech> Hmm disabling the network card doesnt work
[08:29] <michele> since yesterday's upgrade X slowed down to a crawl...
[08:29] <djm62> mik3: mozilla composer, Bluefish, Quanta
[08:30] <mik3> bluefish is not wysiwyg
[08:30] <apokryphos> neither is Quanta
[08:30] <apokryphos> wysiwyg is a waste of time IMO. Just learn the code; it's not hard.
[08:30] <erUSUL> nor quanta afaik
[08:30] <djm62> mik3: damn, and composer is closely related to nvu
[08:30] <mik3> uh, i didn't ask for your opinion
[08:31] <djm62> mik3: sorry, had a very quick scan of it "html editors rundown"
[08:31] <apokryphos> mik3: so?
[08:31] <michele> the only suspicious message is: (WW) RADEON(0): Failed to set up write-combining range (0xc0000000,0x4000000)
[08:31] <apokryphos> mik3: I'm hardly going to wait for your approval before I make statements in here.
[08:31] <mik3> apokryphos : i'll go ahead and file whatever you have to say henceforth under "who gives a fuck"
[08:31] <reiki_work> file mine too then... wysiwyg is a huge waste of time
[08:32] <mik3> thanks djm62
[08:32] <djm62> wow, the wyswig world is fraught these days
[08:32] <apokryphos> mik3: language..
[08:33] <mik3> is mozilla composer wysiwyg?
[08:33] <mik3> nvu seems to have problems running on my box
[08:33] <djm62> cuneAform for firefox is listed as wsywig, but html is inherently not a wyswig language, so ymmv
[08:33] <october> :(
[08:33] <survivor> Hey folks. I have an old PC I want to use as router, fax receiver etc., running mostly without a monitor
[08:33] <erUSUL> mik3: yes sort of. nvu is a fork of composer
[08:33] <october> My wireless card keeps locking up...
[08:33] <october> I just got (in dmesg)  mtrr: no more MTRRs available
[08:34] <survivor> Can I plugin a screen, configure everything using all the nice UI, and then run it in some sort of server mode?
[08:34] <october> is that bad?
[08:34] <survivor> to get rid of the GNOME overhead.
[08:34] <djm62> survivor: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:34] <reiki_work> I've been writing web pages since before there were even pictures on the web. I've seen and tried lots of wysiwyg editors. There is not one that writes clean code. There isn't one that can do CSS positioning and get it right. Basically wysiwyg editors for teh web are for those who don't know what they're doing and should probably have someone else doing it for them. Sorry if that's not a...
[08:34] <tear> shouldn't VLC be found in Synaptic?
[08:34] <reiki_work> ...popular opinion with some, but it IS based on a long history and experience
[08:34] <reiki_work> and I'll shut up again for another hour or so :)
[08:35] <Answer> survivor: you can press ALT+F1 to login in text mode ?
[08:35] <survivor> Another question, can I use the live version for that purpose? Because I only have a 80MB one left ^^
[08:35] <mik3> well nvu can't find my mozilla run-time environment but i'm trying a reinstall before i seek other alternatives
[08:35] <apokryphos> tear: if you have universe enabled ,then yes.
[08:35] <survivor> (For a dedicated router)
[08:35] <tear> that would be true *scratches the empty ball on shoulders*
[08:35] <mik3> reiki: it's relivant to someone who doesn't care to learn html or css alike
[08:35] <djm62> survivor: you might be better with a dedicated router liveCD
[08:35] <survivor> It'd be cool if I could plug in a monitor, do all the settings then have it automatically boot into server mode
[08:35] <reiki_work> mik3: ok... you have a valid point there
[08:36] <djm62> mik3: alternatively openoffice and abiword both save as html, but they're not webdesign tools
[08:36] <djm62> they support links, images, etc
[08:36] <djm62> beyond that, I don't know
[08:37] <iratsu_> shouldn't I be able to get more than a 640x480 resolution with the collowing video card?: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device
[08:37] <mik3> yeah this is for a personal web page, messing with openoffice for html annoyed me with aligning stuff
[08:37] <JairunCaloth> yea
[08:37] <JairunCaloth> mt
[08:37] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell iratsu_ about resolution
[08:38] <TodFlanders> iratsu not sure that specific card but have you ever gotten better on a different os?
[08:38] <mik3> my entire web page is basicly text based except for the graphic on the main page
[08:38] <iratsu_> TodFlanders: yes
[08:38] <erUSUL> iratsu_: my wild guess is yes ;)
[08:38] <djm62> mik3: also in this magazine, the gimp is mentioned, with something called py-slice.  might be worth a google
[08:38] <TodFlanders> yeah you probably need to edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:38] <iratsu_> i'm running ubuntu from livecd right now and all i can get is 640x480;
[08:38] <mik3> yah <3 gimp
[08:39] <LeaChim> I don't seem to have any parallel port devices like /dev/parport0 - where have they gone, and how do i get them back?
[08:39] <iratsu_> TodFlanders: hmm in what way?
[08:39] <october> I know this isn't a specific question.  But I need help debugging why my wireless card just stopped working on my laptop:  dv4150us (HP)  internal wireless 80211g
[08:39] <apokryphos> iratsu_: check the link ubotu gave you
[08:39] <mik3> have they released any plugins for gimp for free?
[08:39] <october> I've tried /etc/init.d/networking stop and start   and it doesn't come back.   if I reboot, it's fine.
[08:39] <JairunCaloth> Well for the first time in a couple of days, GMD and X ran without any problems on boot up. I went online and got my info for my moniter so it would run properly and ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. After I was done with that I pressed ctrl-alt-backspace to restart X, but it didn't want to come back up. I had to type startx to make x run again.
[08:39] <djm62> mik3: yeah...all of them that I know of
[08:39] <topyli> mik3: all of them i guess :)
[08:40] <djm62> mik3: but py-slice gets distributed with the gimp, I think
[08:40] <LeaChim> I don't seem to have any parallel port devices like /dev/parport0 - where have they gone, and how do i get them back?
[08:40] <mik3> djm62 : solid. are they listed in the apt-cache?
[08:40] <survivor> Watching ubuntu live boot on a P200 64MB RAM 2x CDROM is fun btw
[08:41] <stimpack> anyone know how to get x-chat to register my name quicker? get kicked to #ubuntu-unregged about 0.2secs before it registers =/
[08:41] <survivor> w/o swap HD, of course
[08:41] <Belutz> survivor: what's the fun?
[08:41] <topyli> anyone hacked the logitech media keyboard yet? i'd hate to have to write XKB rules for it myself :)
[08:41] <TodFlanders> iratsu_ just curious are you using a lcd screen?
[08:41] <erUSUL> djm62: yes it is
[08:41] <survivor> It
[08:41] <djm62> mik3: the gimp is, I doubt that other plugins are packaged...google knows far more than me at this stage :-/
[08:41] <survivor> 's booting for over an hour now
[08:41] <Belutz> survivor: really?
[08:41] <survivor> until I have the brown background that I thought was the desktop
[08:41] <survivor> but for the last 10 minutes, the screen went black again
[08:42] <survivor> maybe the part about "128 MB minimum" in the desc was true
[08:42] <survivor> :)
[08:42] <Belutz> ic ic
[08:42] <Belutz> :)
[08:42] <djm62> no need....
[08:43] <apokryphos> djm62: it really actually depends. Some have been fine on it for at least a couple weeks now.
[08:43] <topyli> djm62: did you find out for yourself? :)
[08:43] <apokryphos> general consensus is that it's still a little risky wth things.
[08:43] <apokryphos> (main problems coming from X)
[08:43] <djm62> apokryphos: I could run it, but I don't have the time and inclination to fix stuff.  I appreciate Ubuntu Just Working ;)
[08:44] <feugan3333> Do ubuntu packages stored in a deb format?
[08:44] <TodFlanders> ive been good on breezy for the last 2 or so weeks , only seen a few bugs
[08:44] <djm62> feugan3333: yes
[08:45] <feugan3333> djm62: Is the deb file kept for every package that I install. Is so where are these files located?
[08:45] <feugan3333> s/Is so/If so/
[08:45] <LeaChim> I don't seem to have any parallel port devices like /dev/parport0 - where have they gone, and how do i get them back?
[08:45] <mik3> how is upgrading to breezy beneficial to a typical end user?
[08:45] <apokryphos> feugan3333: debs from apt are put in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[08:46] <feugan3333> apokryphos: thanks
[08:46] <apokryphos> mik3: new features, updated apps etc
[08:46] <topyli> mik3: as long as it's unstable, there is no real benefit that outweighs the potential hassle
[08:46] <TodFlanders> the typical end user should wait till the final release :) it just has a few more features and better support for drivers, but at current stage it may be a headache to get working
[08:47] <occy> :(
[08:47] <feugan3333> breezy using the same kernel?
[08:47] <mik3> when is it's official release date ?
[08:47] <apokryphos> feugan3333: no, 2.6.12
[08:47] <TodFlanders> about 1 month
[08:47] <iratsu_> is there a website which lists the horizontal and vertical sync rates of most monitors?
[08:47] <apokryphos> mik3: /topic
[08:48] <TodFlanders> iratsu_ was that a lcd?
[08:48] <feugan3333> I think the new kernel will be better for amd/nvidia users.
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> iratsu,  thers a X modeline generator site taht I use a lot - google for it.
[08:48] <iratsu_> TodFlanders: no
[08:48] <apokryphos> iratsu_: if you went for the "advanced" option there in the x reconfiguration, it's probably better sticking with the medium (which you'd no doubt know)
[08:48] <Cryptid> does ne body know codecs that support .m4a and .avi .mov files
[08:48] <erUSUL> feugan3333: why you think that?
[08:48] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Cryptid about w32codecs
[08:48] <TodFlanders> cryptid you on 32 bit ubuntu? if so install w32codecs
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> avi files can use many codecs
[08:49] <Cryptid> Dr_Willis which is the best codec available
[08:49] <iratsu_> apokryphos: ok i found the rates, should i still use the medium option?
[08:49] <bobbyd> Dr_Willis, same with .mov files, they're both just containers
[08:49] <apokryphos> iratsu_: probably better in most cases.
[08:49] <bobbyd> Cryptid, depends what ou mean by *best* :)
[08:50] <feugan3333> erUSUL: When compiling the Nvidia driver on AMD64 it give out warning that the driver may be unstable and suggests upgrading to kernel 2.6.11.
[08:50] <Cryptid> bobbyd, *besy*=good video rendering
[08:50] <survivor> Oh well... booting for almost two hours now... I think I'll stop the P200 experiment :D
[08:50] <erUSUL> feugan3333: ther is a 2.6.11 in universe for hoary...
[08:51] <feugan3333> erUSUL: I didn't know that. Cool
[08:52] <feugan3333> survivor: how much ram?
[08:52] <survivor> 64mb
[08:52] <survivor> no hd
[08:52] <erUSUL> feugan3333: apt-cache search 2.6.11
[08:52] <feugan3333> erUSUL: Thanks
[08:52] <topyli> survivor: you can run fluxbox at most
[08:52] <TodFlanders> quick question, can you remove the unneeded xorg drivers? when i select remove it wants to remove xserver-xorg
[08:53] <feugan3333> survivor: you booting from the live CD?
[08:53] <erUSUL> TodFlanders: /me thinks not
[08:53] <topyli> survivor: as long as you don't run any applications :)
[08:53] <LeaChim> I don't seem to have any parallel port devices like /dev/parport0 - where have they gone, and how do i get them back?
[08:53] <Answer> Question: Anybody done Cisco EAP-FAST authentication in linux ?
[08:54] <TodFlanders> :( i thought so , just a pain to have to update them when i never use them since i dont have the best web connection. thatnks for comfirming my assumption :)
[08:55] <JairunCaloth> where might I find my nvidia driver readme?
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> Cryptid,  there is no best...  it all depends.
[08:55] <Answer> JairunCaloth:  locate nvidia
[08:56] <DaSkreech> What would cause some keys to stop working under Ubuntu? Keymaps?
[08:56] <JairunCaloth> thanks
[08:56] <iratsu_> I can't even get to 24 of depth; I get the following error: (EE) I810(0): No Video BIOS modes for chosen depth.
[08:57] <pesco> Hi, I've installed a bunch of font packages, xfonts-artwiz for instance, and the fonts don't show up in X. What gives?
[08:57] <TodFlanders> daskrech what keys? like multimedia keys or letters?
[08:57] <DaSkreech> TodFlanders: Right shift and right alt
[08:58] <TodFlanders> oh yeah keymap is all i can think about havent ever had a problem with it myself, just the play and stop multimedia keys, sorry maybe someone else can help
[08:58] <mik3> mike@splinter:/opt/nvu-1.0$ nvu
[08:58] <mik3> Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting.
[08:58] <mik3> mike@splinter:/opt/nvu-1.0$
[08:58] <mik3> wtf
[08:58] <mik3> heh
[08:58] <mik3> annoying
[08:59] <topyli> is there a way to have both usplash and a high resolution framebuffer console? i saw a tutorial that adviced to remove any vga line from the kernel options
[09:00] <LeaChim> *please* can someone help me. i have no parallel port devices, and i don't know how to get them
[09:00] <michele> mik3, I think you have to set $MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to something reasonable, and I bet this is documented
[09:00] <mdma-> Yo.
[09:01] <Sionide> grr stupid unregged chan
[09:01] <vladuz976> anybody here know much about cvs and can help me out?
[09:01] <Answer> !cvs
[09:01] <ubotu> rumour has it, cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[09:01] <iratsu_> should Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device be using the i810 driver?
[09:01] <feugan3333> Anyone know how to get the exact source used to build a package (eg xmms). I know about apt-get source  , but I'm not sure if I need to still apply the patches or is this done as part of the apt source process?
[09:01] <mdma-> !single user mode
[09:01] <ubotu> mdma-: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:01] <mdma-> !, single
[09:01] <ubotu> mdma-: Are you smoking crack?
[09:02] <Answer> !tell mdma- about ubotu
[09:02] <Answer> !tell mdma- about commands
[09:02] <mdma-> !help
[09:02] <mdma-> Thanks.
[09:02] <LeaChim> *please* can someone help me. i have no parallel port devices, and i don't know how to get them
[09:02] <abarbaccia> hey all - who manages the packages for breezy?
[09:02] <mik3> michele : where would i read on this
[09:02] <Answer> LeaChim: parallel ports sounds like a wiki search issue
[09:02] <mik3> nvu doesn't have it documented
[09:03] <michele> mik3, on nvu's site?
[09:03] <feugan3333> LeaChim: are the ports enabled in your bios?
[09:03] <mik3> alright i'll check it out thanks
[09:03] <LeaChim> feugan3333, i believe so
[09:03] <cyphase> do power supplies have any kind of intelligence, or do they just route the power and that's that?
[09:03] <LeaChim> Answer, nothing on there, or the forums
[09:03] <LeaChim> feugan3333, i'll check
[09:03] <mik3> cyphase : my atx cuts my grass
[09:03] <cyphase> mik3, cool
[09:03] <cyphase> how much was it?
[09:04] <Error323> Hello everyone, can somebody help me with an ubuntu install concerning a raid0 configuration?
[09:04] <h08817> hello
[09:04] <h08817> i was wondering why ubuntu won't install on my partitioned hd
[09:04] <mdma-> What command do I add to ubuntu GRUB to boot into single user mode and reset the root password?
[09:04] <Centaur5> mik3, Does it cut it or just kind of fry it?
[09:04] <h08817> i have 98 on one of my hds and xphome on the other
[09:04] <laszlok> where can i find a list of package repositories
[09:05] <h08817> i would like linux on my xp hd but on a partition
[09:05] <Error323> Did some research on raid0 and ubuntu, but only thing i could find was to use a non raid hdd
[09:05] <h08817> i tried it and it goes to install but when it boots for the first time i get a grub error
[09:05] <laszlok> other than ubuntuguide.org
[09:05] <feugan3333> mdma: On my system there is a recovery mode option in grub
[09:05] <mdma-> Feugan, yes.
[09:06] <feugan3333> mdma: that is ubuntu already set up a special "kernel" for recovery mode
[09:06] <Hoxzer> how can I change default browser of ubuntu?
[09:06] <mdma-> Feugan, I boot into system recovery mode.. But it prompts me for root pass. "Give root password for mainenance (or type Control-D to continue)"
[09:07] <raven3x7> anyone know if there is extras for breezy
[09:07] <raven3x7> ?
[09:07] <vladuz976> anybody can help with "/root/.cvspass failed for reading"? i installed cvs with apt, don't know why i get this
[09:07] <raven3x7> vladuz976 not root maybe?
[09:07] <h08817> is it possible to have 3 OS's on the same system?
[09:08] <raven3x7> h08817 sure
[09:08] <Error323> Doesn't anyone here has experience with raid configurations and ubuntu?
[09:08] <h08817> well it won't work for me
[09:08] <h08817> grub doesn't work
[09:08] <raven3x7> hmm which 3?
[09:09] <h08817> 98, xp, ubuntu
[09:09] <raven3x7> OSes i mean
[09:09] <raven3x7> oh
[09:09] <eu-prleu-peupeu> hi ppl
[09:09] <h08817> i want 98 b/c i have certain programs on it that i don't have on cd anymore
[09:09] <vladuz976> raven3x7, the script i am using that checks out writes to /usr and /tmp so i have to be root
[09:10] <h08817> like MSOFFICE
[09:10] <raven3x7> vladuz dunno then
[09:10] <h08817> and i don't wanna get an illegal copy
[09:10] <raven3x7> h08817 windows xp nor 98 work?
[09:10] <mdma-> Feugan, are  you there?
[09:10] <h08817> raven3x7: both work
[09:10] <h08817> 98 and xp are on 2 dif hds
[09:10] <mdma-> Feugan, thanks for the help. this support channel is nice.
[09:11] <h08817> i want linux on my xp hd b/c it is a lot bigger
[09:11] <raven3x7> so ubuntu wont load?
[09:11] <h08817> i get grub 23 or something like that
[09:11] <h08817> right
[09:11] <Error323> I'm surprised no-one knows lol
[09:11] <h08817> it installs and everything
[09:11] <Error323> or awnsers :)
[09:11] <raven3x7> hmmm is grub installed on the correct MBR?
[09:11] <jalcala> i help about how to install ubuntu on server with disc array
[09:12] <h08817> well it asks to install on mbr and i said yes
[09:12] <Error323> jalcala was that to me?
[09:13] <Error323> I'm not installing it on a server, but just a desktop with 2 hitachi disks in raid0
[09:13] <raven3x7> h08817 well since you have 2 HDs you also have 2 MBR. which one is you first HD the xp or the 98 one?
[09:13] <h08817> what is raid?
[09:13] <Error323> using an ICH6R controller
[09:13] <jalcala> raid 5
[09:13] <h08817> raven3x7: xp
[09:13] <jalcala> 5 disc
[09:13] <h08817> raven3x7: when i turn on my comp it goes to xp
[09:13] <jalcala> 4 on array 1 on spare
[09:13] <h08817> its the master
[09:14] <raven3x7> you dont see grub at all?
[09:14] <h08817> nope
[09:14] <jalcala> using smart array controller
[09:14] <h08817> on the first boot after the install it dies
[09:14] <Error323> Raid is a way to hook up several disks in an array so you can for instant read/write parallel to each of them giving you twice the speed.
[09:14] <h08817> it says grub 23 i think
[09:14] <Error323> ehhh twice when with two disks
[09:15] <Error323> the speed depends on the number of disks
[09:15] <Quinthius> h08817: raid is an array of physical disks to create one "virtual" disk, in various modes (such as mirroring, so if one dies, you dont lose data... or combining two disks together to get increased storage)
[09:15] <jalcala> Installations crash with error not allocate resource for eisa5,6
[09:15] <Error323> yeah that's a better awnser :)
[09:15] <mik3> Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting. <--i get this when i run nvu, i can't find any relivant posts on google or nvu's home page, any suggestions?
[09:15] <selinium> Error323, Look what Quinthius just said  ^^^^^
[09:16] <Error323> jalcala I don't even get an error
[09:16] <raven3x7> h08817 this is probably beyond me. you might wanna google fur grub error 23
[09:16] <h08817> raven3x7: so is there any reason why it doesn't work?
[09:16] <iratsu_> is 855resolution supposed to be in unvierse?
[09:16] <h08817> ok thanks
[09:16] <Error323> selinium my reply to that was "yeah that's a better awnser :)"
[09:16] <h08817> later
[09:16] <Answer> Question: Cisco EAP-FAST Authentication compatible wireless network adapter for Linux ?
[09:17] <Earthen> can someone remind me how to update locate
[09:17] <selinium> Error323, Sorry, i thought that was you thought! :) Doh!
[09:17] <redtech> Earthen: updatedb
[09:17] <Error323> np :)
[09:17] <Earthen> ty
[09:17] <raven3x7> h08817 well the installer probably didnt configure it correctly because it got confused by the 2 drives. im just guessing thouggh
[09:17] <jogariga> i just installed ubuntu on my powerbook but yaboot didn't detect my macosx partition. Anyone know how to fix it?
[09:17] <Error323> selinium have you got experience in raid?
[09:17] <Error323> configs
[09:17] <Error323> ?
[09:18] <selinium> Error323, No, but I have seen so many people looking for answers here, have you looked in wiki?
[09:18] <selinium> !raid
[09:18] <ubotu> [raid]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[09:18] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell jogariga about windowsdrives
[09:19] <Error323> hmmm didn't know that feature
[09:19] <Error323> thnx
[09:19] <selinium> Error323, np
[09:19] <jalcala> Array is created with software compaq
[09:20] <virgule> ok guys I want a defrag tool for my ext3 fs
[09:20] <Lethal-Rocks> ext3 doesn't frag afaik
[09:20] <virgule> mine does (!!) I have a 82mb files fraged in 127 parts!
[09:20] <virgule> many others are fragmented im all puzzled
[09:21] <raven3x7> is there an extras repo for breezy yet?
[09:21] <raven3x7> virgule ext3 does not need dfragmenting
[09:21] <mdma-> How can I make Ubuntu boot into single user mode, and reset a password? GRUB has recovery option available.. but boots and then prompts for root pass.
[09:22] <selinium> Is there any way I can speed up ripping in Sound Juicer? I am only getting 1.8x out of a 8x4x32 drive.
[09:22] <virgule> how come there is many fragmented files all around the drive?
[09:22] <mazeman> Hi to all,   anyone here has a USB DVD Writer that can share the fstab entry ?
[09:23] <CookedGryphon> hi, does anyone know if advanced power management is included by default in ubuntu? or do i need to download some more stuff to get like cpu frequency scaling and things (also cutting down fan noise would be good)
[09:23] <vladuz976> is there something like dreamweaver for linux/ubuntu?
[09:24] <kangpeh> heh
[09:24] <Rockett18> vladuz976> there is NVU
[09:24] <Rockett18> it isnt as fancy
[09:24] <Rockett18> but it works
[09:24] <vladuz976> Rockett18, is it like bluefish?
[09:25] <Rockett18> no
[09:25] <Rockett18> http://www.nvu.com/
[09:26] <virgule> man...
[09:28] <Lethal-Rocks> CookedGryphon, apt-cache search is your friend
[09:29] <LeaChim> feugan3333, it was disabled in the bios - oops
[09:29] <alexandros> Is anyone using giFT?
[09:29] <LeaChim> now i have a /dev/parport0 - but i still get this when using xsane:
[09:29] <LeaChim> ppdev0: unregistered pardevice
[09:29] <LeaChim> ppdev0: claim the port first
[09:29] <virgule> without transition what is /.dev directory?
[09:29] <alexandros> I am having a problem giFTui would not start
[09:30] <Answer> Question: Cisco EAP-FAST Authentication compatible wireless network adapter for Linux ?
[09:30] <virgule> alexandros: have you tried from a terminal --you might get an insightful output
[09:33] <feugan3333> LeaChim: :-)
[09:33] <limer> where would an external, unformatted USB hd be located in the file system?  I would like to partition with cfdisk
[09:34] <mjr> limer, dmesg should tell you, but likely it's /dev/sda if you have no scsi or sata disks
[09:34] <alexandros> virgule this the message I got 'giftui : No host to connect /apps/giftui/daemon/host.'
[09:34] <oohweeee> Does anyone know if it's possible to *easily* change your login name?
[09:34] <limer> mjr: thx.  I will look
[09:34] <mik3> Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting. <--i get this when i run nvu, i can't find any relivant posts on google or nvu's home page, any suggestions?
[09:35] <misieq> hi there! i'm wondering if ubuntu live for ppc might come handy if i'm up to netboot one MacOS from other mac machine?
[09:36] <rigel> does anyone else have a problem with the xmms-flac package?
[09:36] <rigel> it breaks xmms
[09:36] <rigel> for me
[09:36] <Quinthius> oohweeee: should be
[09:37] <selinium> topyli, but you need the katana font for your matrix style screen savers! :D
[09:37] <LeaChim> feugan3333, it's still broken though :/
[09:37] <rado_uk> Is Someone Using AOL with Ubuntu
[09:37] <topyli> selinium: oh, that one stays for sure
[09:38] <topyli> selinium: i do read the matrix like an open book :)
[09:38] <Lethal-Rocks> rado_uk, That person needs to die :P
[09:38] <selinium> topyli, lol
[09:38] <rado_uk> Lethal-Rocks Why?
[09:38] <rado_uk> Im stuck with AOL
[09:38] <Lethal-Rocks> rado_uk, Awww :(
[09:38] <rado_uk> and im looking for solution
[09:38] <lundner> i never really got aol working with linux :-S
[09:38] <Quinthius> oohweeee: it's probably only a matter of modifying your  entry in /etc/passwd (change username and home dir), renaming your home dir, and renaming your group in /etc/groups
[09:38] <topyli> selinium: but i rarely surf web sites written in, say, kannada
[09:39] <selinium> topyli, Is you hd getting a bit rammed?
[09:39] <lundner> what internet-connection do you have rado_uk
[09:39] <rado_uk> cable modem
[09:39] <rado_uk> its broadband
[09:39] <topyli> selinium: no, it's just hard to browse the fonts in the openoffice font selector for example
[09:39] <pestilence> is it possible to have 2 monitors in clone setup such that one has a higher actual resolution than the other, but they have the same virtual resolution?
[09:39] <pestilence> i.e. one shows the entire screen, the other scrolls when you move your mouse to the top and bottom, left and right of the screen
[09:40] <Quinthius> pestilence: i dont know, but it does sound like a cool idea
[09:40] <selinium> topyli, I used to have the same problem, I have over 2000 fonts at one point! It made chosing on a little difficult!
[09:40] <selinium> topyli, *had
[09:40] <Talky> CookedGryphon
[09:40] <Talky> hello :)
[09:40] <pestilence> Quinthius: indeed.
[09:41] <misieq> does anybody know how can i set up netboot server on ubuntu live for mac?
[09:41] <Quinthius> pestilence: i'm sure it's possible somehow
[09:41] <rado_uk> Got any ideas about AOL?
[09:41] <pestilence> Quinthius: sure, the question is, how :)
[09:41] <Lethal-Rocks> lart rado_uk
[09:41] <Lethal-Rocks> grr
[09:41] <Lethal-Rocks> !lart rado_uk
[09:42] <lundner> i only have a german tutorial but it doesn't work when i had aol
[09:42] <Quinthius> pestilence: i suspect it would involve (maybe among other things) creating a secondary screen section in xorg.conf, with the virtual desktop enabled
[09:43] <alexandros> virgule: I got it up but it is asking for a port on localhost to connect to.
[09:43] <Quinthius> pestilence: i'm not sure if you can have two active "Screen" sections in xorg.conf at the same time or not..
[09:43] <Talky> does anyone know how can i configure the linuxant driver in ubuntu
[09:43] <pestilence> Quinthius: you can, but not in clone mode
[09:44] <rado_uk> cheers for your useful help and for the "chopping"
[09:44] <pestilence> Quinthius: as far as i can tell.  it works fine if i want two different displays.  but to have one cloned display, it only wants one screen section
[09:44] <Quinthius> pestilence: oh, they act as expanded desktops or whatever?
[09:44] <Talky> wb CookdGryphon
[09:44] <pestilence> Quinthius: no, just two separate desktops.
[09:44] <CookdGryphon> does anyone here have a clue about laptop power management?
[09:44] <pestilence> Quinthius: you can have one big desktop, that's called xinerama
[09:44] <Talky> hey CookdGryphon
[09:45] <CookdGryphon> hey Talky
[09:45] <kangpeh> why can't i see anythign in my imap inbox in evolution
[09:45] <Talky> CookdGryphon, i have to show you plog
[09:45] <LeaChim> now i have a /dev/parport0 - but i still get this when using xsane: ppdev0: unregistered pardevice ppdev0: claim the port first
[09:45] <Talky> its not working :(
[09:46] <CookdGryphon> Talky, yeah
[09:46] <Talky> CookdGryphon, how can i show you?
[09:46] <FlopsyPete> hi. I'm trying to understand printing... where does foomatic come into it? if I have, for example an Epson printer and am running 'cups' and 'cupsys-driver-gimp-print', does foomatic-db / foomatic-db-gimp-print duplicate what cupsys-driver-gimp-print does?
[09:46] <Quinthius> pestilence: what kind of vid card are you using?
[09:46] <Talky> pm you?
[09:46] <Answer> !foomatic
[09:46] <ubotu> Answer: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:46] <CookdGryphon> Talky, /join #flood
[09:46] <CookdGryphon> paste it in there
[09:47] <FlopsyPete> |foomatic
[09:47] <FlopsyPete> :)
[09:47] <FlopsyPete> !foomatic
[09:47] <ubotu> FlopsyPete: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:47] <pestilence> Quinthius: intel 855gm
[09:48] <Quinthius> pestilence: http://www.x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/radeon.4.html go there and search for "MergedFB" ... it looks driver-specific for radeon but if it can do it im sure other drivers have similar options..
[09:48] <pestilence> Quinthius: the i810 driver
[09:48] <pestilence> Quinthius: yes, i saw that.  didn't think it would work for the i810 driver.
[09:48] <FlopsyPete> I don't understand the foomatic windmill thing
[09:48] <nickrud> kangpeh, I've got imap in evolution working ok; what's your problem?
[09:48] <Answer> the bot does not have any info for foomatic, the windmill thing is a humorous alternative to a blank stare
[09:48] <rigel> does anyone else have a problem with the xmms-flac package?
[09:49] <Answer> !tell flopsypete about ubotu
[09:49] <kangpeh> nickrud
[09:49] <kangpeh> for 2 imap acc's ive made
[09:49] <kangpeh> if there are other folders in the imap acc, nickrud
[09:49] <kangpeh> i can see those
[09:49] <kangpeh> but the inbox folder, i cannot see
[09:49] <kangpeh> it says 'x new messages' or whatever u know Inbox (12) or whatever showing the # of new messages
[09:49] <FlopsyPete> still doesn't explain whaty windmills has to do with foomatic
[09:49] <kangpeh> but in the listing on the right, it doesn't show any messages
[09:49] <kangpeh> nickrud
[09:49] <SpaceDog`> Good day
[09:49] <Quinthius> pestilence: hmm all im seeing for mergedfb anywhere is for radeon and some mention of nvidia, matrox and SiS..
[09:49] <SpaceDog`> where can i get ubuntu?
[09:50] <Answer> !tell SpaceDog` about ubuntu
[09:50] <SpaceDog`> where can i get ubuntu?  i heard the CDs are sent for free
[09:50] <nickrud> kangpeh, just a sec, I haven't seen that before
[09:50] <SpaceDog`> !tell
[09:50] <kangpeh> O_O
[09:50] <Answer> SpaceDog`:  ubuntu.com fool
[09:50] <rigel> can anyone help me troubleshoot this flac/xmms problem?
[09:50] <SpaceDog`> i mean the CDs
[09:50] <SpaceDog`> pls dont be rude
[09:50] <dsas> SpaceDog: shipit.ubuntu.com
[09:51] <nickrud> kangpeh, which imap server are you using?
[09:51] <Answer> Your lack of searching the ubuntu webpage before asking on here may be perceived as rude.
[09:51] <kangpeh> nickrud: imap server from school and imap server (qmail) on my server
[09:51] <kangpeh> nickrud: but evolution worked before with hoary.
[09:51] <kangpeh> but now with breezy it doesn't
[09:51] <kangpeh> :(
[09:51] <kangpeh> same exact settings
[09:51] <kangpeh> :(
[09:52] <nickrud> kangpeh, it's working in breezy here, and that is strange
[09:52] <Quinthius> pestilence: http://www.xfree86.org/current/i810.4.html  search for "Clone" ... not very descriptive but might be a step in the right direction
[09:52] <nickrud> kangpeh, can you see them with mutt or thunderbird?
[09:53] <pestilence> Quinthius: yes, clone works.  but that makes both screens the same resolution.  i want the laptop screen to have a virtual resolution that is the same as the LCD's actual resolution
[09:53] <kangpeh> nickrud: didnt try
[09:54] <nickrud> kangpeh, probably you can, but it's best to check (seems like an evo problem, not imap)
[09:54] <Quinthius> pestilence: yeah... it might just be an issue of whether or not the driver has that functionality..
[09:54] <nickrud> my misunderstanding :)
[09:54] <putz_kinhu> can i ask general questions about linux here?
[09:54] <topyli> judging by the amount and diversity of fonts i'm uninstalling, the language support is pretty awesome
[09:54] <occy> !ask
[09:54] <pestilence> Quinthius: right.
[09:55] <Cryptid> exit
[09:55] <Answer> !tell occy about ubotu
[09:55] <Cryptid> exit
[09:55] <putz_kinhu> i want to ident my c/c++ codes, using color for each word,etc....wich program should o dlownad?
[09:55] <Answer> !emacs
[09:55] <ubotu> Answer: I give up, what is it?
[09:56] <Answer> putz_kinhu:  emacs is the c00lest text editor
[09:56] <CookdGryphon> putz_kinhu, do u mean syntax highlighting?
[09:56] <putz_kinhu> but
[09:56] <CookdGryphon> cos even gedit has that
[09:56] <boxerboy> is it true for 2 pcs set with linux to print off same printer the printer has to be connected through wireless?
[09:56] <putz_kinhu> emacs dont ident the code itself
[09:56] <putz_kinhu> i downloaded emaca
[09:56] <occy> !tell occy about ask
[09:56] <topyli> ooh, there's a package called ttf-ubuntu-title!
[09:56] <ui> !ping
[09:56] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, ui.
[09:56] <occy> !tell putz_kinhu about ask
[09:56] <Quinthius> putz_kinhu: try gedit or gvim
[09:56] <Lethal-Rocks> occy, you can use !tell me
[09:56] <occy> putz_kinhu, sorry
[09:56] <Lethal-Rocks> ;)
[09:57] <occy> heh
[09:57] <putz_kinhu> u r saying Xemacs or emacs?
[09:57] <occy> hey, just trying to learn so I can help peeps out
[09:57] <occy> ;)
[09:57] <Answer> !tell occy about help
[09:57] <Answer> !tell occy about tell
[09:57] <ui> !ubotu
[09:57] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, or better than SmarterChild
[09:58] <occy> Answer, heh, ok that's enough
[09:58] <makkk> seveas, is your server down?
[09:58] <makkk> I'd like to get freenx
[09:59] <roham_> I need help with installing matlab... I got a install script in the CD... I have tried ./install but it dosnt work...
[09:59] <roham_> anybody
[09:59] <Quinthius> Answer:  :P
[09:59] <makkk> roham_ I think you need to copy the cd contents to your hard disk
[09:59] <roham_> makkk why?
[09:59] <makkk> roham_, I dont have an answer. I believe that's the only way I got it to work
[09:59] <Seveas> makkk, yeah, I screwed up the .deb archive on it :)
[10:00] <roham_> seveas how can I get the attributes for installing from cdrom?
[10:00] <makkk> seveas, any ideas on when or if it will be officially in breezy/backports for breezy?
[10:00] <Seveas> !no ubotu is Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:00] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[10:01] <Seveas> !forget bytefoo
[10:01] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot bytefoo
[10:01] <keithce> Hi
[10:01] <Seveas> !forget quit
[10:01] <ubotu> i forgot quit, Seveas
[10:01] <Seveas> !forget seveas
[10:01] <ubotu> i forgot seveas, Seveas
[10:01] <roham_> seveas
[10:01] <keithce> Question: Does Ubuntu come with CD Burning software?
[10:02] <Seveas> roham_, ?
[10:02] <makkk> keithce, yes
[10:02] <Seveas> keithce, yes it does
[10:02] <engie> Hi. To try out breezy can I just change my apt-get sources to breezy and let apt-get update do its thing
[10:02] <engie> ?
[10:02] <apokryphos> roham_: did you check the apt-howto? It has instructions there
[10:02] <deFrysk> keithce, more software then you wil need to use
[10:02] <apokryphos> engie: yes
[10:02] <ui> !upgrade2breezy
[10:02] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:02] <keithce> I do not believe it was installed, how can I install it?
[10:02] <fortnox> sup everyone
[10:02] <roham_> apokryphos: instructions for what?
[10:03] <deFrysk> keithce, what is not installed ?
[10:03] <Seveas> keithce, nautilus can burn, you can install serpentine or gnomebaker for more advanced burning needs
[10:03] <apokryphos> roham_: using the cd as an apt source, which is (I presume) what you meant
[10:03] <SpaceDog`> what's the size of Ubuntu in the hard disk once it's installed?
[10:03] <SpaceDog`> can it work even if im using AMD Duron 750 with 64MB RAM?
[10:03] <Lethal-Rocks> Could someone help me with upgrading my other install of ubuntu to breezy, when I chroot into it and it can't connect to the servers
[10:03] <roham_> apokryphos: I cant install matlab, permission denied...
[10:04] <Lethal-Rocks> SpaceDog`, It's about 1.2GB
[10:04] <roham_> is it because its mounted by root?
[10:04] <fortnox> can anyone please help me with a small prob
[10:04] <jcoxon> fortnox, whats the problem?
[10:04] <virgule> hjmm
[10:04] <Lethal-Rocks> roham_, sudo helps with installing things
[10:04] <keithce> How can I search the apt-get repository for serpentine or gnomebaker?
[10:04] <Seveas> SpaceDog`, 750/64 is enough
[10:04] <roham_> lethal-rocks dosnt work
[10:04] <Seveas> you just need a lotof swap
[10:04] <virgule> apt-cache search serpentine
[10:04] <roham_> l
[10:05] <Lethal-Rocks> What doesn't work?
[10:05] <fortnox> jcoxon, i do removed everything on my system that points to fglrx.. As i updated to Breezy and i want to install the new ati drivers from the website
[10:05] <keithce> It didn't come up with anything when I searched
[10:05] <apokryphos> roham_: what is that?
[10:05] <fortnox> after i did alien -d ......... and running the dpkg -i fglrx64...
[10:05] <fortnox> i get an error
[10:06] <keithce> virgule, I typed that and nothing came up
[10:06] <fortnox> fglrx64-4-3-0 depends on lib32gcc1 (>= 1:4.0.1); however:
[10:06] <fortnox>   Version of lib32gcc1 on system is 4.0.1-4ubuntu6.
[10:06] <roham_> apokryphos: sudo: unable to execute ./install: Permission denied
[10:06] <engie> Is there a new ubuntu-backports for breezy? I set it to breezy-extras instead of hoary extras but synaptic reckons it can't find it (although oddly a breezy-extras path seems to be on the backports server)
[10:06] <engie> ?
[10:06] <El_Che> anyone experinced that the verifying of dvd's on k3b is *very* slow of it's just my drive?
[10:06] <apokryphos> roham_: err, what are you trying to do now?
[10:06] <ui> !goo'boy
[10:06] <ubotu> Aww, thanks dad.
[10:06] <erisco> can anyone tell me how to compile gimpshop?
[10:06] <roham_> apokryphos: when I try to start the install script on the matlab cd...
[10:06] <virgule> this probly mean there is no 'serpentine' try with gnomebaker it should output 'gnomebaker - application for CD/DVD creation in the GNOME desktop'
[10:06] <CookdGryphon> El_Che, is DMA enabled?
[10:07] <erisco> can anyone tell me plainly what compile is?
[10:07] <roham_> apokryphos: do I need to be logged in with root?
[10:07] <apokryphos> roham_: ok, so you're not trying to use a cdrom as an apt source. No idea what install that is
[10:07] <roham_> or copy the whole cd to the harddrive?
[10:07] <apokryphos> sounds like a buildscript
[10:07] <jcoxon> fortnox, hmmmmmm
[10:07] <keithce> i searched for gnomebaker as well and nothing came up
[10:07] <apokryphos> roham_: this is an app for linux on cd?
[10:07] <virgule> hmm
[10:08] <CookdGryphon> erisco, its making human readable code into a binary file that the computer understands
[10:08] <LeaChim> I'm having problems with xsane: ppdev0: claim the port first - any idea what that means and how to fix it?
[10:08] <roham_> apokryphos: yes... it should be... unix/win/linux/mac
[10:08] <SpaceDog`> Hmmm... How about OPEN OFFICE?  is it built in when I install?
[10:08] <virgule> do you recall enabling the extra repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list ??
[10:08] <fortnox> jcoxon,  Does that mean i have to backdate the driver to a previous version?
[10:08] <Entvex> hi!!!
[10:08] <apokryphos> roham_: no idea how it does the install; it probably has readme etc files. Have you not checked those?
[10:08] <keithce> no, I don't know if I did
[10:08] <roham_> apokryphos... aint any
[10:08] <makkk> roham_ is there a reason you dont want to copy it? If you look at the wiki, it also says to copy it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MATLAB.
[10:09] <apokryphos> roham_: you would of course need root perms to install an app, though
[10:09] <virgule> !extra repositories
[10:09] <ubotu> virgule: Are you smoking crack?
[10:09] <zone17> Hi, Mozilla released a fix for the serious vulnerability this past friday, ubuntu security has not yet fixed the problem, whats up with ubuntu security?
[10:09] <makkk> roham_, here's an excerpt: MATLAB's install script will not run from a mounted cdrom. Oddly, this is not due to default settings mounting cd-drives with -noexec, but some mystical and poorly understood voodoo. The cure is to copy the disk to your harddrive, and then run the install. To copy the disk, open a terminal and type the following
[10:09] <SpaceDog`> Hmmm... How about OPEN OFFICE?  is it built in when I install?
[10:09] <apokryphos> roham_: unless it installed it in your home
[10:09] <keithce> !extra repositories
[10:09] <Entvex> do the Breezy preview have alle The nye driver updates ?
[10:09] <Seveas> SpaceDog`, it is installed when you install it
[10:09] <fortnox> Anyone here clued up on fglrx and breezy ? would really appreciate any help
[10:09] <jcoxon> fortnox, if i'm reading it correctly its asking for a version that is already installed 4.0.1
[10:09] <Seveas> SpaceDog`, OO.o is installed when you install UBuntu
[10:09] <keithce> !extra repositories
[10:09] <ubotu> keithce: Are you on ritalin?
[10:09] <roham_> makkk: ok thx... ill have to do it then hehe
[10:09] <SpaceDog`> ah ok
[10:09] <Seveas> keithce, don't mess with the bot
[10:09] <fortnox> jcoxon, thats what i thought
[10:09] <kemik> Entvex:  nice mix of english and norwegian ;P
[10:09] <keithce> oh opps
[10:10] <SpaceDog`> i have xp in my PC... would it be possible for mew to have both in my harddrive?
[10:10] <topyli> beagle is choking my poor machine. would it be happier with more ram, or is it this cpu-intensive?
[10:10] <Entvex> kemik hi my english is not the best
[10:10] <makkk> roham_ no prob. I use it every day. works sort of well. what version do you have?
[10:10] <jcoxon> fortnox, you could force the install and see if the driver then works (but there is no warrenty on that idea)
[10:10] <nalioth_zZz> SpaceDog`: yes, quite possible
[10:10] <ui> !yes
[10:10] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, ui?
[10:10] <kemik> Entvex:  ah , sry.. didnt mean to bust your balls... :|  thought you had a mind.slip
[10:11] <jcoxon> fortnox, :P it might be just the ubuntu versioning system
[10:11] <sktrdie> hello
[10:11] <Entvex> kemik is ok mate :)
[10:11] <kemik> Entvex:  some ppl have had trouble with ATi drivers in breezy etc...
[10:11] <jcoxon> fortnox, considering you converted it alien
[10:11] <sktrdie> when I do apt-get install vlc, it doesnt install the packages
[10:11] <sktrdie> wierd
[10:11] <keithce> virgule, is there something I need to do to enable the extra packages?
[10:11] <fortnox> yea
[10:11] <virgule> keithce: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:11] <fortnox> could be
[10:11] <apokryphos> sktrdie: do you have Universe enabled?
[10:11] <kemik> sktrdie:  sudo apt-get install vlc ?
[10:11] <fortnox> lemme try the force
[10:11] <Seveas> sktrdie, what does it do instead?
[10:11] <Entvex> no kemik i got a nvidia :) but i got sound problems
[10:11] <kemik> sktrdie:  and the correct repositories installed
[10:11] <sktrdie> I do have universal
[10:11] <kemik> sktrdie:  and updated ?
[10:12] <sktrdie> it says:
[10:12] <fortnox> vlc seems to not be able to run in breezy
[10:12] <sktrdie> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:12] <sktrdie> and then some packages
[10:12] <kemik> dont paste
[10:12] <fortnox> lo there linuxboy
[10:12] <ekimus> anyone proficient in remastering the live cd? i've got some problems getting the extracted filesystem in a svn repo (/dev file especially)
[10:12] <sktrdie> that are not going to be isntall
[10:12] <Entvex> kemik is all the new sound drevers in the new Ubuntu ?
[10:12] <kemik> sktrdie:  install the dependencies manually perhaps ?
[10:12] <apokryphos> sktrdie: you're on breezy?
[10:12] <ui> !paste
[10:12] <ubotu> paste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:12] <linuxboy> fortnox
[10:12] <Seveas> sktrdie, paste the complete error together with your sources.list on the pastebin
[10:12] <kemik> Entvex:  dont know really
[10:12] <sktrdie> apokryphos: yes
[10:13] <apokryphos> sktrdie: ok, pastebin them so we can have a look.
[10:13] <keithce> virgule, Do you know which category the CD burning software would be under?
[10:13] <Lethal-Rocks> How can I make GTK app fonts smaller?
[10:13] <sordic> how do i change my user name ?
[10:14] <sordic> at ubuntu ?
[10:14] <LadyLinux> Hello all.
[10:14] <makkk> hello lady
[10:14] <Seveas> sordic, editing /etc/passwd  /etc/shadow /etc/group /etc/sudoers (as root) may work, but you'd better create a new user
[10:14] <sktrdie> Seveas, apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2196
[10:14] <sordic> Seveas, ok. thanks.
[10:15] <sktrdie> also the source.list on  the bottom
[10:15] <virgule> keithce: nay..I use no such device so I don't know.. But I would look it up for you if you need it
[10:15] <ekimus> sordic: you have to modify /etc/group /etc/passwd according to the new settings, then rename the homedir to the new username and /var/spool/mail/$user (but it may be easier to just create a new user and copy everything to the new homedir
[10:15] <Gui_> hello folks
[10:16] <__filip_> someone know if this will work in breezy? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64629
[10:16] <Gui_> I'm trying to copy some files on my hd to a USB drive, but no success
[10:16] <Seveas> sktrdie, enable universe
[10:16] <Seveas> ah wait
[10:16] <Gui_> I'm running from a Live CD, and have mounted my /dev/hda1 to a /mnt/windows folder
[10:16] <Entvex> Seveas :) can you help me when do got time :) ?
[10:17] <Gui_> which I can browse to only by calling nautilus from the root terminal
[10:17] <Seveas> sktrdie, try an apt-get update
[10:17] <Gui_> but once there can't seem to do anything about copying the files to somewhere else
[10:17] <Gui_> any help?
[10:17] <CookdGryphon> does anyone know anything about power management for laptops in ubuntu?
[10:17] <sktrdie> Seveas: I did update yesterday
[10:17] <virgule> keithce: gnomebaker is in 'GNOME Desktop Environment (universe)
[10:17] <keithce> virgule, Thank you
[10:18] <virgule> keithce: I cant seam to find 'serpentine' tho..
[10:18] <apokryphos> sktrdie: sorry about that, evil phone. What happens when you try to install libflac6?
[10:18] <Belutz> for P4 HT, should i use 686 or 686-smp ?
[10:18] <nalioth_zZz> virgule: breezy is broken until oct 13
[10:18] <sktrdie> brb
[10:19] <virgule> thats spooky :/
[10:19] <Entvex> do som of you in here have sound problems ?
[10:19] <fortnox> jcoxon, heh no luck mate even if i do force...boitjie does not want to budge still complains about my lib32gcc1 version
[10:19] <Gui_> ppl, if two folders have different owners, can this prevent me from copying files from one to another?
[10:19] <LadyLinux> Anyone have a cheep serial modem?
[10:19] <CookdGryphon> Entvex, i DID have sound problems but its all fixed now
[10:19] <makkk> Entvex, i think lots of people do
[10:19] <Harr___> hi again
[10:20] <Mpmc> is the new version of ubuntu available yet?
[10:20] <apokryphos> Mpmc: available, but not out officially yet
[10:20] <Entvex> what have you guys have don on you sound problems ???
[10:20] <Gui_> (the folder I'm trying to copy to is read write execute authorized)
[10:20] <makkk> mpmc, its not done, but available
[10:20] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Entvex about sound
[10:20] <nalioth_zZz> Mpmc: officially available oct 13
[10:21] <Mpmc> ages away :@
[10:21] <Entvex> what have you guys have don on you sound problems ??? LadyLinux and CookdGryphon
[10:21] <LadyLinux> Is a Hawkins 56K Serial modem compatable?
[10:21] <Gui_> ppl, any hints on copying files to a USB drive?
[10:22] <CookdGryphon> Entvex, someone showed me a tutorial with settings.. i'll ust look it up
[10:22] <Gui_> where drag&drop doesn't worrk
[10:22] <Entvex> CookdGryphon what sound card do you have
[10:22] <reiki_work> Gui_: insert... it should automount... copy
[10:22] <Gui_> reiki_work, tried that exactly
[10:22] <Gui_> it mounts, I can open it
[10:22] <misterdiff> hi all. i'm running gnome 2.10 and i want to know how to connect to different accesspoints, check their signal strength, etc...?
[10:22] <{cYanide}> hey
[10:23] <LadyLinux> bob2: Could you see if this modem is compatable?  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16825100204
[10:23] <Gui_> but can't drag&drop from another folder to there
[10:23] <reiki_work> Gui_: is it mounting properly? I had a bit of fiddling to do to get mine working reliably
[10:23] <{cYanide}> er is there a way i can update gnome in ubuntu to 2.12?
[10:23] <SpaceDog`> Ubuntu Linux vs. Win 98 in a desktop with AMD DURON 750 AND 64MB RAM....  which is faster?
[10:23] <Lethal-Rocks> misterdiff, Does your Wireless Card definately work
[10:23] <Harr___> I am seeking for a program. Now the only way to change default "open with application" (that I know) is that I right-click some file, and adjust those settings there. Are there available any program which can do it?
[10:23] <misterdiff> Lethal-Rocks, yes
[10:23] <misterdiff> using it now
[10:23] <reiki_work> Gui_: was this flash drive formatted on a windows machine?
[10:23] <Gui_> reiki_work, I believe it is, bcause I've worked on files that were there, including saving them back to the drive
[10:23] <Entvex> CookdGryphon what sound card do you have
[10:23] <Gui_> yes it was
[10:24] <fortnox> SpaceDog`, you should not even Put ubuntu against win 98.. diff class all together
[10:24] <CookdGryphon> Entvex, i thinjk its an SiS one, not sure, the sound worked, the problem was with multiple programs trying to play sound
[10:24] <Lethal-Rocks> misterdiff, KWifiManager is nice, but it depends on KDE. You might not want to install it if bandwidth is slow
[10:24] <reiki_work> Gui_: you've copied to and from teh drive in Ubuntu and now it's stopped working properly?
[10:24] <Gui_> (worked on .doc and .rtf files created in Win)
[10:24] <Gui_> reiki_work, not exactly
[10:24] <makkk> spacedog`, unless ubuntu is modified, maybe win98... except now, win98 doesnt have support... so you have to deal with vulnerabilities on your own... and the bsods
[10:24] <sktrdie> OK im back
[10:24] <Entvex> CookdGryphon i have the same !!! ca you show me ?????
[10:24] <Gui_> reiki_work, I've opened files that were on the drive, worked on them and saved them back
[10:25] <Harr___> please help me: I am seeking for a program. Now the only way to change default "open with application" (that I know) is that I right-click some file, and adjust those settings there. Are there available any program which can do it?
[10:25] <sktrdie> Seveas: is my sources.list setup right?
[10:25] <reiki_work> Gui_: ok... you did this in Ubuntu? (sorry... trying to get a clear picture here)
[10:25] <Gui_> reiki_work, yes, using OpenOffice
[10:25] <CookdGryphon> Entvex, can u play sound at all? does the login sound play?
[10:26] <Gui_> reiki_work, opened &saved from within OpenOffice
[10:26] <lenhan> has anyone set up pvm on ubuntu?
[10:26] <jcoxon> fortnox, damn though it was on to a winner then
[10:26] <Entvex> CookdGryphon yes but i cant play 2 sounds a one time
[10:26] <reiki_work> Gui_: ok... try typing   sudo mount   in t erminal window.. see what mount is telling you about the flash drive
[10:26] <LadyLinux> Hello, Is anyone recieving my messages?
[10:26] <CookdGryphon> okay then Entvex give me a min
[10:26] <Lethal-Rocks> LadyLinux, No, I can't read
[10:26] <fortnox> jcoxon, thanx for the help mate... I shall continue my search... :P
[10:26] <froggy25> where is the system fonts found on here
[10:26] <Entvex> CookdGryphon yes mate
[10:26] <ekimus> LadyLinux: again please...
[10:27] <Gui_> reiki_work, what I'm trying to do now is: I've mounted my HD (originally windows) to /mnt/windows, and want to copy files from there to the flash drive
[10:27] <froggy25> im looking for the system fonts for ubuntu
[10:27] <LadyLinux> Lethal-Rocks: roflol.\
[10:27] <Gui_> reiki_work, will check what mount tells me
[10:27] <froggy25> where is that located
[10:27] <Lethal-Rocks> !lart LadyLinux
[10:27] <LadyLinux> Anyone have a cheep serial modem?
[10:27] <SpaceDog`> yeah
[10:27] <LadyLinux> Is a Hawkins 56K Serial modem compatable?
[10:27] <ekimus> LadyLinux: any external one should do
[10:27] <Harr___> Hey, I have a problem: I am seeking for a program. Now the only way to change default "open with application" (that I know) is that I right-click some file, and adjust those settings there. Are there available any program which can do it?
[10:27] <mjr> LadyLinux, if the "serial" means that it connects to an rs-232 serial port, yes
[10:27] <Lethal-Rocks> Harr___, Stop repeating yourself
[10:27] <SpaceDog`> does Ubuntu detect flash disks readily or must there be a driver?
[10:28] <Harr___> lethal-rocks: ok
[10:28] <CookdGryphon> Entvex, go thru http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753&highlight=Add+Sound+Card but then re-enable the sound server and put it back to Esd and OSS in the multimedia selector if it is still weird, i did that and it alll worked, even tho the tutorial tells u to set them both to alsa and disable sound server startup
[10:28] <reiki_work> SpaceDog`: it should automount them
[10:28] <makkk> ladylinux, you can make pretty much anything work. hopefully this wont be a hard one. but it looks good
[10:28] <Entvex> SpaceDog li think it do it auto :)
[10:28] <LadyLinux> ekimus: Could you tell me if this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16825100204
[10:28] <Gui_> reiki_work, after a few other things I have these:
[10:28] <sktrdie> Seveas: you there?
[10:28] <ekimus> hi, i want to rsync a / filesystem (including /dev) now the problem is that i want to place it inside a svn repo which requires non privileged users to be able to "create" (or something else) those files. any hints on this?
[10:28] <mjr> LadyLinux, yes, that seems quite fine
[10:28] <{cYanide}> when er breezy? comes out
[10:28] <Gui_> reiki_work, /dev/hda1 on /mnt/windows type ntfs (rw)
[10:28] <reiki_work> Gui_ don't paste a lot of lines in here... one or 2 mqaybe
[10:28] <makkk> ladylinux, you may possibly need to come back here and get more help setting it up. but it should work
[10:28] <Lethal-Rocks> {cYanide}, Oct 13
[10:28] <Surak> Hello, I would like to track down a problem which is happening in ALL my machines with breezy and totem. Could someone help me to debug it?
[10:29] <{cYanide}> will i just be able to install it over my current ubuntu install?
[10:29] <LadyLinux> mjr.  Thanx.
[10:29] <Gui_> reiki_work, and also:/dev/sda on /media/SANS TITRE type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,sync,noatime,quiet,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[10:29] <Lethal-Rocks> {cYanide}, yes
[10:29] <El_Che> CookdGryphon: it is a usb2 device and burning goes pretty fast and OK. It's just de verifying that takes hours
[10:29] <Gui_> reiki_work, ok, sorry
[10:29] <{cYanide}> ah ok cool:)
[10:29] <Sputn1k> How to fix that: http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2895/nuotrauka3dl.png
[10:29] <{cYanide}> and all my menu items etc should stay?
[10:29] <reiki_work> GUi_: no you're ok...
[10:29] <Entvex> CookdGryphon thx :)
[10:29] <reiki_work> looking
[10:29] <CookdGryphon> Elleo, it won't b that then
[10:29] <Lethal-Rocks> Does anyone know how to change GTK app font sizes?
[10:29] <Entvex> CookdGryphon lie have a look
[10:29] <ekimus> LadyLinux: it should do (but i'd select a vendor near you that you can blame in case it doesn't)
[10:29] <CookdGryphon> El_Che, sry
[10:29] <Surak> since yesterday's update, totem completely locks up when trying to open a dvd.
[10:29] <Gui_> reiki_work, those are the two I'm trying to work with
[10:29] <CookdGryphon> Entvex, look at what?
[10:30] <Surak> totem-breezy
[10:30] <lenhan> I've searched google and the unbuntu forums regarding the setup of PVM, but I've had no success; I also have downloaded and compiled pvm3 manually but I cannot add nodes to my master node; does anybody here happen to have any hints for me?
[10:30] <Entvex> CookdGryphon at the link :)
[10:30] <nalioth> Surak: breezy is broken until oct 13
[10:30] <Gui_> reiki_work, btw I can only browse to this /mnt/windows folder when I call nautilus after 'sudo su'
[10:30] <Surak> nalioth: I'm opening bugs FOR breezy for months.
[10:31] <reiki_work> Gui_: those look to be properly mounted to me. Assuming the windows partition is indeed ntfs. Perhaps someone else will have an explanation for you.
[10:31] <reiki_work> Gui_: AHH!! might be a permissions problem?
[10:31] <CookdGryphon> Entvex, what link?
[10:31] <nalioth> Surak: smack those bugs
[10:31] <Gui_> reiki_work, I'm guessing permission / owner of the folder problems
[10:31] <CookdGryphon> Entvex, ahhhh, i'll have a look u meant
[10:31] <CookdGryphon> get u now
[10:32] <Surak> nalioth: breezy is at feature freeze. We must track down every bug we can. And breezy loosing the ability to play cds is a big one.
[10:32] <Gui_> reiki_work, the flash drive tells me it's owned by ubuntu, /mnt/windows is owned by root
[10:32] <reiki_work> Gui_: can you check permissions of /mnt/windows ?
[10:32] <Gui_> reiki_work, how do I do that?
[10:32] <Lethal-Rocks> Gui_, ls /mnt/windows -l
[10:32] <Lethal-Rocks> I think
[10:32] <sktrdie> hello
[10:32] <ekimus> LadyLinux: aren't there any 2nd hand shops near you?
[10:32] <reiki_work> Gui_: in terminal type ls -la /mnt/windows
[10:33] <nalioth> Surak: alrighty. why are you discussing bugs in here? when bugzilla or -devel would be more appropriate?
[10:33] <sktrdie> apokryphos: what were you suggestions for my problem with VLC>
[10:33] <apokryphos> sktrdie: what happens when you try to install libflac6?
[10:33] <selinium> hi people, will all debs out there install or do they need to be Ubuntu specific?
[10:33] <selinium> hi apokryphos!
[10:33] <reiki_work> Gui_: if it's mounted by root, owned by root, ... you should still AS ROOT be able to copy files
[10:33] <sktrdie> apokryphos: it says that there's no package
[10:33] <Gui_> reiki_work, ok... lots of lines starting with dr-x---, some just -r
[10:34] <selinium> hi nalioth
[10:34] <jessy> bonjour
[10:34] <nalioth> howdy selinium
[10:34] <Surak> nalioth: I'm asking for help on debugging totem, don't want to bother the devels without the full information I can provide. Wouldn't be good if someone says me "provide a stack trace"
[10:34] <Harr___> how I change default "open with" application confs?
[10:34] <Gui_> I should be able to copy files to a folder owned by anyone else, right?
[10:34] <apokryphos> sktrdie: ok, one sec.
[10:34] <apokryphos> hi selinium =)
[10:34] <jessy> y 'a t'il quelqu'un parlant francais ici?
[10:34] <nalioth> Surak: in this channel i'm sure you could ask for "dna trace" and get the same response
[10:34] <Gui_> reiki_work, btw is there a command in the terminal to copy files from one place to another?
[10:34] <LadyLinux> skimus: Not here, no market for it.  Everyone buys new.
[10:34] <nalioth> !fr
[10:34] <ubotu> fr is, like, Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[10:35] <reiki_work> Gui_: in a line like this dr-x------  that means only the onlr can read the files. permissions listed across the line are owner, group, others
[10:35] <LadyLinux> ekimus: Not here, no market for it.  Everyone buys new.
[10:35] <jessy> merci obutu
[10:35] <reiki_work> Gui_: in terminal you can cp /mnt/windows/filenames (wildcards work) /mnt/whaatever_Flash_Drive_is
[10:35] <Gui_> reiki_work, ok: so everything listed is 1 root root
[10:35] <LadyLinux> ekimus: Unless you know someone that helps by getting donations and selling.
[10:35] <apokryphos> sktrdie: try installing libflac7
[10:36] <Gui_> reiki_work, ok, will try the manual cp command
[10:36] <Gui_> reiki_work, thx a lot already
[10:36] <El_Che> ok: my problem is bogus
[10:36] <reiki_work> np
[10:36] <topyli> \o/
[10:36] <LadyLinux> ekimus: This area is so unreliable for that.
[10:36] <selinium> topyli, I used to run Wolfenstein on my P900!
[10:37] <reiki_work> I used to run Pong on my Atari :)
[10:37] <topyli> selinium: yeah, i remember wondering if my pc would be able to run doom
[10:37] <El_Che> k3b verifies fine when run as root (gksudo /usr/bin/k3b). Strange that it burns without probs (fast!) as a user and verifies but *very* slow.
[10:37] <reiki_work> I'm so old... first video was someone yelling, "HEY! WATCH THIS!"
[10:37] <selinium> topyli, :D oh sooo true!
[10:38] <topyli> selinium: on my first box i played rogue. now i play doom and nethack on the darn phone
[10:38] <topyli> o tempora o mores
[10:38] <reiki_work> work to do... back in a bit...
[10:38] <sktrdie> apokryphos: already have that
[10:38] <selinium> topyli, my first sytem only had bat and ball!
[10:38] <topyli> heh
[10:39] <topyli> you had a ball? we had to... ok, let's rather not go there :)
[10:39] <apokryphos> sktrdie: hm, it seems to not have sorted out the packages appropriately yet, then. If you really need to use vlc, I guess you could get them from the hoary repos (which would probably work); tedious business though
[10:39] <kev-test> hi there, anyone having troubles with setting up a jail with chroot? made a dir ~/jail/ moved /bin/bash into it doing # chroot /home/me/jail  and it fails, not finding /bin/bash it says.... what is the difference with like FBSD?
[10:39] <selinium> topyli, luxury.... NOT AGAIN! lol
[10:39] <CookdGryphon> anyone know about laptop power management?
[10:40] <sktrdie> apokryphos: mmm.. well It's weird but I would only need vlc because my Totem is not working
[10:40] <selinium> hi people, will all debs out there install or do they need to be Ubuntu specific?
[10:40] <sktrdie> as soon as I put in the dvd
[10:40] <sktrdie> it dont play
[10:40] <sktrdie> and my mouse freezes
[10:40] <topyli> selinium: i did get a gaming console for christmas back in the day. it had pong (they called it tennis) and a few variants
[10:40] <sktrdie> I have to reboot
[10:40] <apokryphos> sktrdie: tried xine?
[10:40] <sktrdie> gonna  try it
[10:40] <oohweeee> is there a version of the java runtime environment available through synaptic
[10:40] <CookdGryphon> selinium, they will al linstall, whether they'll work or not is touch n go
[10:41] <LasseL> PopcornAlchemist ==> #ubuntu-dk :)
[10:41] <selinium> topyli, I had a giming console that just had a variac.. like a volume control, to sweep back and forth.
[10:41] <sktrdie> apokryphos: how do I get out of X and use normal command line? i tried ctrl+alt+del, but it brings me out to a not shell
[10:41] <Answer> sktrdie: alt+f1
[10:41] <SpaceDog`> ping
[10:41] <Answer> ctrl+alt+f1 sry... ctrl+alt+f7 back to graphics
[10:41] <oohweeee> selinium, was it a "Magnavox Odyssey" game system?
[10:41] <apokryphos> sktrdie: to restart X: ctrl+alt+backspace; to change to a terminal session use ctrl+alt+F1-6
[10:41] <Gnonthgo1> sktrdie: try Ctrl + Alt + Fx to get to ttyx
[10:42] <keithce> virgule, Hey can you help me again? :)
[10:42] <topyli> selinium: yeah, like a button you rolled to move. i wonder if we had the same thing :)
[10:42] <selinium> oohweeee, I think it was an amstrad thing or something. it was about 20-25 years ago!
[10:43] <topyli> yeah. i wish i still had it
[10:43] <keithce> Does anyone have a recommendation for a program to manage wireless connections?
[10:44] <Gui_> reiki_work, sorry, stupid question now
[10:44] <Gui_> the flash drive is mounted to /media/SANS TITRE
[10:45] <El_Che> mmm. K3b did the verify until the 50% amazingly fast, but slow again :(
[10:45] <Gui_> reiki_work, but I can't seem to cd into it from the terminal... I've tried cd /media/SANSTI~1, no success
[10:45] <LadyLinux> Laters.
[10:46] <ekimus> anyone knows what problems i have to expect when dealing with block and character files as a normal user?
[10:46] <bimberi> Gui_: try cd /media/SAN*
[10:47] <lsuactiafner> ekimus : permission denied
[10:47] <Gui_> bimberi, thx, will try
[10:50] <titanio> hello
[10:51] <apokryphos> hi there
[10:51] <titanio> ubuntu has enabled atm?
[10:51] <titanio> a have the 5.04 version
[10:52] <titanio> i want install my modem zyxel 630-c1 usb on ubuntu
[10:52] <titanio> now i am using windows
[10:52] <apokryphos> damn spambots, hm.
[10:52] <Harr___> OK I found the soft that I am looking for: Advanced Preference Tools. How to get that program into Ubuntu?
[10:53] <SpaceDog`> i have a modem attached to my PC
[10:53] <SpaceDog`> i have a modem attached to my PC that i used when i used to access the nt using windows...  how do i configure it to much ubuntu?
[10:53] <SpaceDog`> i have a modem attached to my PC that i used when i used to access the nt using windows...  how do i configure it to match ubuntu?
[10:54] <tear> could anyone help me get java plugin for firefox to work?
[10:54] <Gnonthgo1> SpaceDog`: try edit /etc/inittab
[10:55] <[t0rc] > i've a question about python. I've got 2.4 on the pc (new install of hoary), anyways, I need to run 2.3 for a graphics program, so how can I get the program to use python 2.3 instead of 2.4?
[10:55] <z|bandito> can you set ubuntu to automatically log in a user to gnome from the command line?  i mean, can i set the autologin via ssh?
[10:55] <nalioths_dog> [t0rc] , install python 2.3
[10:56] <Gui_> ok pholks, one more question if I may
[10:56] <[t0rc] > nalioths_dog: i've already installed it.
[10:56] <Harr___> tear: have you added all extra repositories?
[10:56] <nalioths_dog> [t0rc] , then your program should use it
[10:56] <tear> yepp
[10:56] <tear> Harr___,  yepp
[10:56] <Harr___> tear: then open synaptic
[10:57] <[t0rc] > nalioths_dog: hmm....how would I add it to path?
[10:57] <vladuz976> anybody using skype here?
[10:57] <Harr___> find there sun-java
[10:57] <Harr___> tear: find there sun-java
[10:57] <nalioths_dog> [t0rc] , the question is: did you add the correct py23 module for your program? (it is in your $PATH, if you used apt to install)
[10:57] <Gnonthgol> vladuz976: yepp
[10:58] <Gui_> I have some files created by windows that are seen by Ubuntu as "invalid encoding", bcause of some characters in the names
[10:58] <vladuz976> Gnonthgo1, is it working well?
[10:58] <vladuz976> Gnonthgo1, i can only hear not speak
[10:58] <tear> Harr___,  "sun-java" no enteries
[10:58] <Gui_> and because of that cp doesn't copy them... any clues on how to override that?
[10:58] <[t0rc] > nalioths_dog: Well I got the fright module afaik; how would I check the $PATH and add it (I didn't use apt, had to download it manually because lin pc isn't online) ?
[10:58] <oscarh> hi, how can i disable the clock syncronization at startup?
[10:58] <nalioths_dog> Gui_, rename them?
[10:59] <nalioths_dog> oscarh, press ctrl-c when it comes up
[10:59] <Gnonthgol> vladuz976: It works well exept that my sound card is not installed, but it worked when it was (in warty)
[10:59] <oscarh> nalioths_dog, hehe, no
[10:59] <Gui_> nalioths_dog, no can do, they're on my windows HD, which is ntfs - read only for Ubuntu
[10:59] <oscarh> nalioths_dog, i want to make sure it is never called
[10:59] <nalioths_dog> Gui_, rename them in windows
[10:59] <vladuz976> Gnonthgo1, i only have the onboard soundcard from my motherboard and either skype is not working or the micorphone thing is not
[11:00] <Harr___> taer: sorry, find sun-j2re1.5
[11:00] <Gui_> nalioths_dog, aha, if I were able to use windows right now on this computer my life would be a lot easier! :)
[11:00] <CookdGryphon> can anyone help me with power management for my laptop? does ubuntu come set up to do cpu frequency scaling? and thermal management?
[11:00] <nalioths_dog> tear, if the sun java doesnt work, see Seveas
[11:00] <emile> Gui_: what about using wildcards? does that work?
[11:01] <Gui_> emile, haven't tried them (except *.*, which gave me the error)
[11:01] <Gnonthgo1> vladuz976: ok
[11:01] <Gnonthgol> vladuz976: ok
[11:01] <oscarh> CookdGryphon, cpu frequency scaling is enabled
[11:01] <nalioths_dog> Gui_, barts PE builder
[11:01] <tear> Harr___,  Is that the package name?
[11:01] <Gui_> nalioths_dog, what's barts PE builder?
[11:01] <Harr___> tear: should be
[11:01] <oscarh> CookdGryphon, if you men thermal management as of enabling/disabling the fan, it does on my ibm
[11:01] <Harr___> tear: sun-j2re1.5
[11:01] <CookdGryphon> oscarh, y doesn't it work on mine then>
[11:02] <nalioths_dog> Gui_, it's a program that allows you to make a bootable "rescue" XP cd-rom
[11:02] <tear> Harr___, cuz there is nothing names sun-
[11:02] <apokryphos> java package is in hoary-extras, too.
[11:02] <oscarh> CookdGryphon, there could be a milion answers to that :(
[11:02] <Gui_> nalioths_dog, I can make this CD from within Ubuntu?
[11:02] <Harr___> yeah, you have to add hoary.extras in your repositories
[11:03] <nalioths_dog> Gui_, i dont think so, but if you have another puter or a friend with one
[11:03] <[t0rc] > nalioths_dog: how do I check the $PATH and edit in what I need?
[11:03] <Gui_> nalioths_dog, ok will keep it in mind, thx
[11:03] <apokryphos> [t0rc] : echo $PATH
[11:03] <nalioths_dog> [t0rc] , you can add to the $PATH in your ~/.bashrc
[11:03] <CookdGryphon> oscarh, could u venture one answer? lol
[11:03] <keithce> Anyone know of a Wireless GUI? I have my wireless card installed and working, I just need a program to select a network and configure it with 802.11x WEP
[11:04] <Gui_> ok, bye and thx all
[11:04] <tear> Harr___,  I have all repos I have availible
[11:04] <[t0rc] > nalioths_dog and apokryphos: Thanks both. :)
[11:04] <Harr___> tear: read answer here:www.ubuntuguide.org
[11:04] <Lethal-Rocks> keithce, You probably won't have much luck with Linux and WEP unless the AP/Router uses 40-bit or 104-bit WEP
[11:04] <nalioths_dog> Harr___, dont do that please
[11:04] <apokryphos> tear: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list then
[11:04] <nalioths_dog> !tell Harr___ about ubuntuguide
[11:05] <nalioths_dog> tear, Seveas has an answer to your java, get with him when he shows up
[11:05] <keithce> Lethal, I want to connect to the school network and they use 802.11x TTLS and PAP authentication with a username and password
[11:05] <apokryphos> What's wrong with the one in hoary-extras?
[11:05] <apokryphos> Though the one in the ubuntulinux repo probably should work, too.
[11:05] <nalioths_dog> apokryphos, Seveas created a java deb that seems to work a little better
[11:06] <Harr___> what' s wrong withe ubuntuguide?
[11:06] <deFrysk> !ubuntuguide
[11:06] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[11:06] <crtr> How can I config eth2 by console ...eth2 is for Home network .. ?
[11:06] <nalioths_dog> Harr___, did you read what the bot sent you?
[11:06] <apokryphos> nalioths_dog: yup, there are others, but haven't heard of problems with the hoary-extras ones
[11:06] <apokryphos> (apart from a few of the mirrors being down etc)
[11:07] <nalioths_dog> apokryphos, some folks just cant seem to get the repo java to work
[11:07] <virgule> lol I have a mac so ubuntuguide is no harm to me ::tears up::
[11:07] <Harr___> nalioths_dog: ok
[11:07] <Versed`> running ubuntu right now on a G4 450
[11:07] <nalioths_dog> virgule, it can bite ANY ubuntu user who's unwary
[11:07] <Versed`> so far runs great.
[11:07] <virgule> I know.. :)
[11:07] <nalioths_dog> Lethal-Rock`away, please turn off that script
[11:08] <Harr___> I haven't had any problems when following ubuntuguide
[11:08] <sorush20> Hi.. how can i get my hotplug to be rescaned..
[11:08] <tacobelldog45> hi all
[11:08] <tacobelldog45> im new to ubuntu
[11:08] <nalioths_dog> Harr___, we've had the misfortune to have to tell some folks in here that their system is dead, due to the 'guide
[11:09] <tacobelldog45> could anybody help me to make my ma101 netgear wireless adapter to work
[11:09] <Harr___> ok
[11:09] <virgule> soruch20: /etc/init.d/hotplug restart       --anyome would confirm/dismiss this work?
[11:09] <Harr___> nalioths_gog: could you point out which part of guide is BAD?
[11:10] <tacobelldog45> could anybody help me to make my ma101 netgear wireless adapter to work
[11:10] <tacobelldog45> please im a noob to ubuntu (and linux)
[11:10] <nalioths_dog> Harr___, some of it's repository suggestions will break ubuntu
[11:10] <nalioths_dog> tacobelldog45: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[11:10] <sorush20> tacobelldog45: type lspci, then find out from the resut what the main chip is on the hardware..
[11:11] <tacobelldog45> k thx
[11:11] <shinu> what does the load average actually mean in the uptime command?
[11:11] <shinu> i mean
[11:11] <shinu> how are they calculated
[11:11] <shinu> what from
[11:11] <shinu> etc
[11:11] <Harr___> nalioths_dog, i have made all my repository changes as adviced in ubuntuguide
[11:12] <nalioths_dog> Harr___, then you are lucky
[11:13] <Harr___> nalioths_dog: seriously speaking could you advice how to edit my sources.list correctly and to get possibility to download all over 16000 packets?
[11:14] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Harr___ about repositories
[11:14] <nalioths_dog> !tell Harr___ about sources
[11:14] <nalioths_dog> !goodbot
[11:14] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, nalioths_dog
[11:16] <tacobelldog45> how do i get into the console??? sry i just changed from mandrake
[11:16] <nalioths_dog> tacobelldog45, applications > system tools > terminal
[11:16] <virgule> console != ttys?
[11:16] <tacobelldog45> thx
[11:16] <Harr___> thanks guys
[11:17] <nalioths_dog> LeaChim, turn that off. please
[11:17] <mindframe> my wireless is using ndiswrapper but i cant get an essid from the router.
[11:17] <keithce> is your router broadcasting an ssid?
[11:17] <bwlang> i'm just trying to get my palm to sync with evolution 2.4 in breezy... everything seems to go okay - the palm says it's hot syncing - but i don't see any calendar events in evolution...   the backup seems to work.
[11:17] <mindframe> no
[11:17] <keithce> you can't see an ssid if you router isn't broadcasting it
[11:18] <keithce> you have to manually configure your network connection to look for it
[11:18] <mindframe> well for this laptop it is
[11:18] <Dr_Fate> firefox thinks the default profile is in use, when it is not
[11:18] <mindframe> but for the other one thats using ndiswrapper it wont detect it
[11:18] <Harr___> nalioths_dog: could you now advice me how to get that into Ubuntu? http://www.gnome.org/~shaunm/users-guide/part2-1.html
[11:19] <tacobelldog45> i did lspci but icant find my usb WLAN adapter
[11:19] <mindframe> keithce, ndiswrapper sees the internal card, but it wont connect to the ndiswrapper.  /etc/network/interfaces seems fine and the modules are properly aliased i think.  any ideas?
[11:19] <nalioths_dog> Harr___, what exactly were you wanting to do?
[11:19] <Codeus> All right, well I ran the ubuntu livecd, it worked great! I didn't try printing while I was running it though. I have a Windows-only printer hooked up to my Windows server, will Linux be able to print via the network to that server/printer?
[11:20] <kemik> Codeus:  yes
[11:20] <mindframe> keithce, sorry... it wont connect to the *router*
[11:20] <kemik> Codeus:  use samba
[11:20] <keithce> mindframe, check this website out: this is what I used to help me http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926&page=1&pp=10&highlight=kernel+source
[11:20] <Harr___> nalioths_dog: I want to get desktop environment preference tool into my Gnome
[11:20] <Codeus> All right, so even though there are no Linux drivers for the printer and whatnot, I can still print to it since it is connected to a Windows computer that does have the windows drivers?
[11:21] <mindframe> keithce, thanks will try it out
[11:21] <keithce> mindframe, the only thing I am stuck on it finding configuring the config file to connect to my network because of the encryption
[11:21] <kemik> Codeus:  mmh, it should work
[11:21] <keithce> mindframe, I dunno if you have a GUI to help you find and connect to wireless networks, but if  you did I would be interested
[11:22] <tacobelldog45> i can see my adapter in the device manager but i cant find it by running lspci or in the network properties window
[11:22] <nalioths_dog> Harr___, the instructions are clearly laid out from the links at the bottom
[11:22] <mindframe> keithce, to tell you the truth this is for my friends laptop.  my laptop w/ cisco aironet 350 series pcmcia card works flawlessly, even when roaming.  wifiradar is something to look at though.
[11:23] <cyphase> how portable is a linux installation from one computer to another. i haven't had the opportunity to try..
[11:24] <nalioths_dog> cyphase, you mean hard drive swapping?
[11:24] <cyphase> yea
[11:24] <Harr___> nalioths_dog: the problem is that I am able to find that opportunity iun my Gnome
[11:24] <Harr___> sorry.. i am not able
[11:24] <nalioths_dog> i wouldn't do it
[11:24] <cyphase> installing it on one computer, then moving the drive to another computer
[11:24] <cyphase> k
[11:25] <nalioths_dog> Harr___, look under "System > Preferences"
[11:25] <cyphase> by wouldn't, you mean it could effect the hardware/installation?
[11:25] <neighborlee> rebooted first time since X and sound wasn't working at login...I had to  turn sound applet up but everything else looks to be on..any issues with sound and last update ??
[11:25] <cyphase> affect*
[11:25] <Harr___> nalioths_dog I have not there
[11:26] <nalioths_dog> cyclone, unless it was a mirror of the hardware of the installed computer
[11:26] <nalioths_dog> Harr___, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[11:26] <LasseL> is there a way to force an install of a package w/o dependencies from a different repository?
[11:26] <Harr___> hoary
[11:26] <nalioths_dog> LasseL, yes, and you get to keep the pieces
[11:26] <LasseL> I'd like to get the latest version of gtkpod from debian unstable, but I don't want the dependencies
[11:26] <Harr___> naliotsh_dog: have
[11:27] <nalioths_dog> Harr___, the system menu (in the top left of your screen) then "preferences"
[11:27] <Stramash> i think you are screwed then LasseL
[11:27] <Toba> is there a GUI wireless config utility?
[11:27] <Stramash> check dependencies in the dictionary
[11:27] <Harr___> naliotsh_dog: and then?
[11:28] <LasseL> then what do you do if you want updated versions of some program?
[11:28] <LasseL> can I make apt-get play nice with a tar-ball?
[11:29] <Harr___> nalioths_dog: and then?
[11:29] <nalioths_dog> Harr___, adjust your preferences to your liking
[11:29] <Codeus> can the ntfs resizer that is in the Ubuntu 5.10 installer reliably resize NTFS partitions?
[11:29] <nalioths_dog> LasseL, if you MAKE apt do any thing, you are in for a surprise
[11:29] <Harr___> nalioths_dog: I can not find that tool there
[11:30] <LasseL> nalioths_dog, useful answers :>
[11:30] <Stramash> LasseL, if it depends on something then it depends on it FULL STOP
[11:31] <LasseL> Stramash, but I have all the dependencies, just not the debian unstable builds
[11:31] <Codeus> Will Ubuntu mess up my NTFS partition if I have it resize it during the install?
[11:31] <Harr___> nalioths_dog so how do you get that tool available in your Gnome?
[11:32] <Stramash> isnt there some stuff about things having to be compiled by same compiler thats how finicky things get :/
[11:32] <nalioths_dog> Codeus, using parted should not affect your NTFS *disclaimer: always back up your data b4 disc operations*
[11:32] <nalioths_dog> Harr___, i've told you: System > Preferences
[11:33] <nalioths_dog> Harr___, it is not in ubuntu as it is mentioned on the gnome website
[11:33] <LasseL> Codeus, I don't think I would try to *resize* a NTFS partition and hope to keep the data from the ubuntu installer - i doubt it even offers you the option to resize NTFS (but I could be wrong)
[11:34] <Codeus> Yes, it does offer the option as of 5.04 in the installer
[11:34] <Codeus> it has
[11:34] <Harr___> nalioths_dog: Could you recommend me any other program
[11:34] <Codeus> ntfsresize
[11:34] <nalioth> LasseL: parted is included on the install cd, and it has the ability to work with NTFS
[11:35] <LasseL> ok, cool
[11:35] <ghita> can someone help me about with a web problem?
[11:35] <nalioth> Harr___: i dont know what else to recommend, there are many settings at System > preferences
[11:36] <Harr___> nalioths:dog: but no one to edit default "open with" applications
[11:37] <LasseL> Codeus, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning (Partitioning an NTFS (windows) partition is usualy easy and straightforward. The Warty installer did not have this functionality, but the Hoary installer does.)
[11:37] <nalioth> Harr___: ah. why didn you ask that in the first place?
[11:37] <nalioth> Harr___: right clik on the object you want to "open with", choose "other" and follow the prompts
[11:38] <Harr___> nalioth: any othe way?
[11:38] <nalioth> Harr___: i'm sure there is, but i dont know them
[11:40] <misterdiff> hey when updating the computer, if the updates are xorg and other xserver packages, will it mess up my system whille in using gnome?
[11:40] <Lethal-Rocks> misterdiff, No, it'll update X after you restart it
[11:40] <Gnonthgo1> misterdiff: ni, just after you restart X
[11:40] <Harr___> nalioth: ok, do you know why Ubuntu doesn't have "Advanced Preference Tools" (defined at http://www.gnome.org/~shaunm/users-guide/part2-1.html )
[11:41] <misterdiff> anyone know when gnome 2.12 is comming out on debian servers?
[11:41] <nalioth> Harr___: you'd have to ask the planning committee
[11:41] <Omarkj> Any ThinkPad owners here? I've got a high pitch problem I can't seem to work out. It's actually known and there is a thread about it at Ubuntuforums.org and on ThinkWiki but I was wondering if anybody here has been able to solve it. It's not isolated to ThinkPad laptops, known on alot of other types.
[11:41] <ringe> Great news: I've found a GPL driver for the InProComm IPN 2220 wireless chipset at ftp://ftp.dlink.com/GPL/di624M/di624m_fw10_source.tar.gz. Now, I can't use it directly (can I?) - or how do I use it?
[11:42] <Omarkj> One "solution" is not really a solution, booting up with the flag idle=halt. I don't want to use that for obvious reasons.
[11:43] <misterdiff> ringe, it'll more than likely require you to patch and recompile the kernel
[11:44] <nalioth> ringe: i suspect a  kernel recompile is in order
[11:44] <bpuccio> misterdiff: http://oskuro.net/blog/freesoftware/gnome-2.12-unstable-2005-09-13-19-26 (when GNOME 2.12 will hit debian)
[11:45] <xceses> hey has anyone installed the security tools https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSecurityTools?highlight=%28security%29 ???
[11:45] <malverian[work] > At some point direct rendering for my ATI Rage stopped working in my ubuntu install.. I'm not sure why this is, and I've reconfigured my Xorg server from scratch several times trying to fix the problem.
[11:45] <malverian[work] > The only things in my Xorg log are:
[11:45] <malverian[work] > pawalls@pawalls ~ $ egrep "\((EE|WW)\).*ATI" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:45] <malverian[work] > (WW) ATI(0): Cannot shadow an accelerated frame buffer.
[11:45] <malverian[work] > (WW) ATI(0): I2C bus Mach64 initialisation failure.
[11:45] <xceses> I get an error E: Couldnt find package toolname
[11:46] <malverian[work] > At least.. those are the only Errors/Warnings that have any mention of ATI.
[11:46] <xceses> on most of them
[11:46] <Omarkj> Another question..the source I download when I download linux-source-2.6.10 from the Ubuntu apt repository, has it been patched with the Ubuntu patches and do I get the default .config file ?
[11:46] <apokryphos> malverian[work] : do *not* paste in here.
[11:46] <ringe> misterdiff, nalioth: The problem is that the source is made for the 2.4 kernel - I don't do kernel patching usually. What then?
[11:46] <dooglus> does anyone know how to clear evolution's cache?
[11:47] <delire> malverian[work] : are you using xcompmgr (drop shadows) in xorg?
[11:47] <ctw> hi! Is anybody here running the breezy preview on a HP Pavilon dv1000 laptop (or any other laptop) and has gotten suspend to disk and/or suspend to ram to work?
[11:48] <ctw> it looks like it worked in Hoary, but it's very buggy for me (will wake up briefly and immediately shut down again, or not wake up at all).
[11:48] <AdmiralSenn> hey everyone
[11:48] <AdmiralSenn> I'm trying to install cdemu - http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/
[11:48] <AdmiralSenn> having a bit of a problem
[11:48] <delire> ctw: you should put this in the forums and also notify ubuntu developers. suspend-to-disk is something they are very interested in hearing back about.
[11:49] <malverian[work] > delire, no
[11:49] <AdmiralSenn> it says I'm supposed to do mount /dev/cdemu/0 /mnt/cdrom
[11:49] <malverian[work] > apokryphos, Sorry.
[11:49] <xceses> hey has anyone installed the security tools https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSecurityTools?highlight=%28security%29 ???
[11:49] <AdmiralSenn> and that's not working
[11:49] <xceses> I get an error E: Couldnt find package toolname
[11:49] <xceses> on most of them
[11:49] <AdmiralSenn> and I don't know precisely what that command does other than mounting the cdemu-loaded .bin to /mnt/cdrom...
[11:49] <AdmiralSenn> basically I don't know what to replace /mnt/cdrom with
[11:50] <delire> malverian[work] : i cannot assist as i always build the ATI fglrx drivers from source and do not do it the reccommended Ubuntu way.
[11:50] <Omarkj> Anyway, I'll try compiling a new kernel with a different Hz value.
[11:50] <AdmiralSenn> actually if I could find out what filesystem I'd use to mount something as a cd that would help
[11:50] <malverian[work] > delire, I don't think the fglrx drivers have support for ATI Rage XL
[11:50] <malverian[work] > delire, Or I would use them..
[11:50] <delire> Omarkj: you will get a default config yes..
[11:51] <Omarkj> malverian[work] : fglrx does not support ATI Rage XL.
[11:51] <delire> malverian[work] : .. meaning i compile the drivers, not use an Ubuntu package. no the FireGL drivers will not provide support for your card.
[11:51] <erUSUL> ringe:  you have to use ndiswrapper
[11:51] <Lethal-Rocks> Could someone tell me how to enable/start 3ddesktop/3dwdm?
[11:52] <misterdiff> ringe, check out the readme in that archive package
[11:52] <misterdiff> ringe, its got step by step instructions on how to do it
[11:52] <neighborlee> AdmiralSenn, heh
[11:52] <kev-test> does evolution have a duplicate message checker?
[11:53] <malverian[work] > delire, Back in my debian days (pre XFree 4.x) I used to have to compile xfree and the kernel drivers manually to get my Radeon 7500 to work :-P
[11:53] <neighborlee> AdmiralSenn, had to boot into windows to verify sound card is still ok..and sure enough it is...so problem clearly stems from the last big update we had
[11:53] <tacobelldog45> where can i find a cvs client plz???
[11:53] <neighborlee> so..anyone else have sound not working after last update ??? ( if so what is the fix )
[11:53] <erUSUL> malverian[work] : the radeon driver seems to work quite well here
[11:53] <malverian[work] > I guess I should say "pre debian having xfree 4.x" days. I had to compile 4.x from CVS to get it owrking.
[11:53] <delire> malverian[work]  what drivers are you currently using?
[11:53] <Omarkj> This is odd, when the processor is working alot (compiling a kernel that is) I don't hear any high pitch noises. I've got a good solution here; write a script that loads my CPU 1.0. One downside..it'll eat away my battery quite fast.
[11:53] <nalioth> tacobelldog45: install one. use synaptic
[11:54] <malverian[work] > delire, I'm using the default ubuntu linux-image (2.6.8) and the normal xorg-output-drivers-ati package for my ati driver.
[11:54] <neighborlee> AdmiralSenn, ah you mean the demo..well it should just work <G>
[11:54] <AdmiralSenn> no
[11:54] <delire> malverian[work]  many of us here went through many hours of DRI setup for our ATI cards until reasonably recently
[11:54] <AdmiralSenn> I mean the game
[11:54] <neighborlee> lol
[11:54] <ctw> thanks delire, how do I contact the ubuntu developers / who specifically should I contact about suspend to disk
[11:54] <AdmiralSenn> it's in six .bin/.cue file sets
[11:54] <neighborlee> AdmiralSenn, sorry can't help ya
[11:55] <AdmiralSenn> heh
[11:55] <AdmiralSenn> well
[11:55] <delire> malverian[work] : right. have you grepped the forums?
[11:55] <AdmiralSenn> I need to know what the command I'm typing does and how to fix it
[11:55] <Omarkj> So, does anybody know this high pitch laptop problem ?
[11:55] <AdmiralSenn> "$ mount /dev/cdemu/0 /mnt/cdrom"
[11:55] <AdmiralSenn> I get mount: mount point /mnt/cdrom does not exist
[11:56] <neighborlee> AdmiralSenn, /media
[11:56] <Omarkj> (Damn, I had forgotten how time consuming compiling a kernel was.)
[11:56] <ringe> erUSUL: I'm using ndiswrapper now. It sucks. Really bad troughput.
[11:56] <erUSUL> AdmiralSenn: /mnt/cdrom does not exist in your system; create it
[11:56] <AdmiralSenn> says I need to specify the filesystem type now...
[11:56] <AdmiralSenn> erUSUL: how?
[11:57] <ringe> misterdiff: The readme expects a lot of Uclinux stuff. This is standard Ubuntu x86. Doesn't it matter? I don't think the readme applies to my setup.
[11:57] <delire> ctw: i'd go into #ubuntu-devel and ask politely if anyone there is interested in hearing about your suspend to disk problems. aside from this i would write about it in the forums and place an entry in http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[11:57] <erUSUL> ringe: the driver you found is for 2.4 as you have said. it won't apply in 2.6 sources
[11:57] <delire> ctw: the latter is the most important.
[11:58] <ringe> erUSUL: that's what I thought. Who can I pay to add it to 2.6 ? :-P
[11:58] <erUSUL> AdmiralSenn: mkdir /mnt/cdrom. or you can mount de cd in /media/cdrom or other directory you want
[11:58] <malverian[work] > delire, I have.
[11:58] <AdmiralSenn> well, doing the second one it asks what filesystem to use
[11:59] <delire> Omarkj: you also should file a bug in http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com. perhaps first ask 'crimsun' if he has the time to help you. he's the resident expert in sound related matters.
[11:59] <AdmiralSenn> is it iso9660?
[11:59] <ctw> thanks again, delire!
[11:59] <erUSUL> take a look at lkml (linux kernel mailing list) and make aproposition... XDD
[11:59] <Omarkj> delire: Will do. I expect it's a kernel problem actually.
[11:59] <Fred|Fr3d> Seveas, you there?
[11:59] <malverian[work] > delire, Some extensive google searching turned up pretty much nothing but a lot of people pasting their lspci output to forums when asking for assistance iwth other unrelated problems.
[11:59] <delire> malverian[work] : i see. file a bug. if you have simply upgraded, this is a real problem that needs to be addressed.