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| Riddell | apokryphos: dude | 02:20 |
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| apokryphos | hola | 02:20 |
| Riddell | grab 3.5 from deb http://kubuntu.org/~jr/kde35beta1/ breezy main | 02:20 |
| Riddell | pick a module from http://kubuntu.org/~jr/3.5-src/ | 02:21 |
| Riddell | package! | 02:21 |
| Riddell | you might want to start with something easy, kdetoys for example | 02:21 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: ok :), I'll try to follow those instructions. =) | 02:22 |
| Riddell | start with the chroot | 02:23 |
| apokryphos | right | 02:23 |
| === apokryphos hopes he's done chroot stuff right so far and starts installing kde stuff | ||
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| Riddell | morning JRe | 03:26 |
| JRe | morning | 03:28 |
| JRe | there is a known problem with ivman and media refreshing on usb device plugging ? | 03:30 |
| Riddell | JRe: hal stuff seems to be generally broken in kubuntu | 03:34 |
| JRe | Riddell: it's strange because with dmesg everything seems fine but media:/ don't refresh :( | 03:35 |
| JRe | I can even mount it manually | 03:35 |
| Riddell | media isn't using HAL, that's the problem | 03:36 |
| Riddell | it's using the fstab fallback, no idea why | 03:36 |
| Riddell | it's a priority to fix obviously | 03:36 |
| JRe | Riddell: ok yeah I have always trouble to enable the HAL backend when compiling KDE | 03:36 |
| JRe | even using --with-hal and installing libhal-dev | 03:37 |
| JRe | Apart from thath, breezy is really really nice on amd 64 =) | 03:44 |
| Riddell | JRe: ooh, you have an amd64? | 03:44 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: stuck on the patches part; not quite sure what's going on there. How do I check that the patches were applied? | 03:44 |
| JRe | Riddell: yeah :) | 03:44 |
| === apokryphos can't wait till Sat when hopefully his 64-bit will be up-n-running | ||
| Riddell | "checking for the HAL 0.4... searched but not found" that'll be the problem then | 03:45 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: patch -p1 < debian/patches/foo | 03:45 |
| JRe | yes it seems | 03:45 |
| Riddell | where foo is each patch in that directory | 03:45 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: if it complains about hunks then it's not applied | 03:45 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: I got nuthin' in there except a common/ | 03:47 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: make sure to reverse the patches before building patch -p1 -R < debian/patches/foo | 03:47 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: ah, no patches, sorted then :) | 03:47 |
| apokryphos | I'll have to tackle the patching with another one some time, then (presuming I get passed this one! :) | 03:48 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: DEB_MAKE_INVOKE := $(DEB_MAKE_ENVVARS) unsermake -p -C $(DEB_BUILDDIR) <-- should I just remove that whole line? | 03:51 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: yep | 03:51 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: and remove the unsermake build-dep in debian/control | 03:51 |
| apokryphos | yup | 03:51 |
| Riddell | unsermake is nice but not worth the hassle | 03:51 |
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| apokryphos | Got a damned error, but I'll tell ya tomorrow :) | 04:04 |
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| JRe | mmm adept is nice | 04:21 |
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| pef | hello | 08:34 |
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| verwilst | hm, can it be that the fonts in breezy are nicer than in hoary? | 10:52 |
| verwilst | :d | 10:52 |
| Tm_T | progress | 10:59 |
| === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : Make packages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KDE35Packages || apt-get install adept kde-guidance || Breezy Preview http://www.kubuntu.org/breezy-preview.php || https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu | ||
| === verwilst likes | ||
| verwilst | kde-guidance ? | 01:21 |
| verwilst | what's that? | 01:21 |
| sebas | system administration tools | 01:22 |
| sebas | kcontrol modules, actually. | 01:22 |
| verwilst | oh | 01:22 |
| Riddell | verwilst: install them and see if they work | 01:23 |
| === Riddell suspects they don't | ||
| verwilst | i installed em | 01:24 |
| === sebas hides in that case. | ||
| Riddell | verwilst: did they turn up in systemsettings? | 01:24 |
| verwilst | that users and group thing says something about a python so not being found | 01:24 |
| Riddell | verwilst: does running userconfig on the command line work? | 01:24 |
| verwilst | ImportError: No module named qt | 01:25 |
| verwilst | you need pyqt for it to run? | 01:25 |
| sebas | Missing dependency on pyqt then. | 01:26 |
| verwilst | that's a hefty dependency :) | 01:26 |
| verwilst | i would like to start coding too again | 01:26 |
| verwilst | don't know on what yet though :d | 01:26 |
| verwilst | Riddell: oh, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KDE35Packages ? | 01:26 |
| verwilst | are you making 3.5beta debs? | 01:26 |
| sebas | Hm, guidance depends on python-kde3 which depends on python2.4-kde3 which depends on python2.4-qt3 | 01:27 |
| sebas | That should actually not be a problem then. | 01:27 |
| verwilst | python2.4-qt3 isn't installed here :) | 01:28 |
| Riddell | verwilst: only made kdelibs and kdebase so far, if you want to help make more that would be great | 01:28 |
| Riddell | verwilst: install python-kde3 and see if it works | 01:29 |
| sebas | verwilst: Hm, strange, guidance should have it installed as a dep ... :? | 01:29 |
| Riddell | sebas: it doesn't seem to be a dep of guidance | 01:29 |
| sebas | [13:27:50] <sebas> Hm, guidance depends on python-kde3 which depends on python2.4-kde3 which depends on python2.4-qt3 | 01:29 |
| sebas | (I just checked that, though.) | 01:30 |
| verwilst | Riddell: yeah, would like to | 01:30 |
| Riddell | verwilst: start by making a chroot | 01:31 |
| Riddell | sebas: guidance in breezy archive doesn't depend on python-kde3 | 01:32 |
| verwilst | Riddell: hehe i know ;) | 01:32 |
| Riddell | but that's easily fixed, I think there's other problems | 01:32 |
| sebas | Riddell: Hm, what's the reason for it not depending on pykde? | 01:34 |
| sebas | (In my checkout of trunk/ it does.) | 01:34 |
| Riddell | sebas: that's a build-dep, there's no install dep on pykde | 01:35 |
| sebas | Ah. | 01:35 |
| sebas | I might aswell read the control file, instead of just skimming it. ;-) | 01:36 |
| Riddell | but that's easy to fix, it's other stuff that's the problem | 01:36 |
| Riddell | verwilst: does userconfig work now? | 01:36 |
| verwilst | Riddell: didn't use it yet | 01:38 |
| verwilst | coworkers bugging me with problems i have to solve :d | 01:38 |
| verwilst | Microsoft is nagging again that our antispam/virus servers are blocking their mails | 01:39 |
| verwilst | yesterday they said the same | 01:39 |
| verwilst | but it was their own servers :| | 01:39 |
| verwilst | fucking retards | 01:39 |
| verwilst | hm, no knoda in breezy? | 01:39 |
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| verwilst | any idea about knoda? :$ | 01:44 |
| verwilst | i need it :p | 01:44 |
| verwilst | since mysqlcc isn't available either anymore | 01:44 |
| verwilst | need to do queries on remote mysql servers | 01:44 |
| verwilst | unless somebody else knows a tool? :d | 01:44 |
| === sebas oftenly uses ssh tunneling to the remote host. | ||
| sebas | Gives you encryption for free. | 01:45 |
| sebas | You could also install a local apache and use phpmyadmin (either with tunneling or with remote SQL). | 01:46 |
| Riddell | verwilst: failed to compile http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/k/knoda/0.7.3-2/ | 01:47 |
| verwilst | sebas: well normally i use phpmyadmin on the remote servers | 01:49 |
| verwilst | but this server can resolve hostnames, but make no connections anymore :p | 01:49 |
| verwilst | strange stuffs happen with it :p | 01:49 |
| verwilst | Riddell: aha okido | 01:50 |
| verwilst | Riddell: on the 3.5 beta's, is full debugging enabled? | 01:50 |
| verwilst | would be great to have it enabled | 01:50 |
| Riddell | verwilst: no, no space on CDs | 01:50 |
| Riddell | or anywhere else, debugging symbols take up muchos space | 01:51 |
| verwilst | cd's? | 01:53 |
| verwilst | hmmmm breezy is sweet :$ | 02:02 |
| verwilst | only the default fonts are too big, and that background image doesn't look very professional | 02:02 |
| verwilst | but after some tweaking, wooooohooooow | 02:02 |
| verwilst | :d | 02:02 |
| verwilst | also, the rounded selections in konqueror and all are sweet ;) | 02:03 |
| verwilst | glad to see that patch getting incorporated finally ;) | 02:03 |
| sebas | Jep, if it only were AA'ed :-) | 02:04 |
| === sebas really likes the blue selection background, though. | ||
| verwilst | trou | 02:06 |
| verwilst | true | 02:06 |
| verwilst | me too | 02:06 |
| verwilst | the selections could get some work | 02:06 |
| verwilst | but it looks a lot less win3.11 already :d | 02:06 |
| Riddell | blue selection background? | 02:06 |
| verwilst | when you drag your mouse | 02:06 |
| sebas | Don't tell me that slipped in by accident, Riddell :D | 02:07 |
| verwilst | hehe | 02:08 |
| Riddell | drag mouse where? | 02:10 |
| verwilst | lol :p | 02:10 |
| verwilst | in konqueror | 02:10 |
| verwilst | on desktop | 02:10 |
| sebas | Just select a part of your desktop background by dragging the mouse | 02:10 |
| sebas | Or in konqi, yeah. | 02:10 |
| sebas | The selected area becomes a blue frame then | 02:11 |
| Riddell | ah yes, rubber band | 02:12 |
| verwilst | yip | 02:19 |
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| apokryphos | Riddell: hey, you here? | 05:16 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: hi | 05:46 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: on the debuild, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2199 | 05:47 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: that means it's all compiled and you just have to work out which files have been added and which removed since last release | 05:47 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: amor.png will have been moved to hicolor (from crystalsvg) | 05:48 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: you need to edit debian/*install | 05:48 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: so to the next step? It says it failed though :D | 05:48 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: ? | 05:50 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: it failed because it's trying to install a file which has been moved | 05:50 |
| apokryphos | right | 05:50 |
| Riddell | you need to edit debian/*install | 05:50 |
| apokryphos | takin' a look now | 05:50 |
| Riddell | various application icons have been moved from crystalsvg to hicolour | 05:50 |
| Riddell | once you've moved all the files that have been moved and removed all the files that have been removed (from .install) doing dh_install --list-missing will tell you which have been added | 05:51 |
| Riddell | people running breezy: does sound work? | 05:56 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: sorry about that -- annoying flooders in #ubuntu. Right, so I should change the path in those files to the new ones? | 06:01 |
| apokryphos | (not move to old crystalsvg folder) | 06:02 |
| \sh | Riddell: yes..sound works.. | 06:03 |
| \sh | Riddell: what's up with knoda? I saw it depends on python2.3 | 06:03 |
| === apokryphos has sound working fine too | ||
| Riddell | must just be me then | 06:07 |
| Riddell | \sh: knoda needs libhk-classes7-dev | 06:09 |
| Riddell | which doesn't seem to have been synced | 06:09 |
| \sh | Riddell: hmmm.... | 06:09 |
| \sh | Riddell: but can we upgrade python2.3 to 2.4 as build-depends? | 06:10 |
| Riddell | \sh: well it won't make any difference if libhk-classes7-dev still isn't there | 06:11 |
| === apokryphos thinks a sed will be fine for this | ||
| Riddell | apokryphos: only app icons have moved, not others | 06:11 |
| apokryphos | yup, just going to use crystalsvg/hicolor | 06:12 |
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| winsux | can somebody guide me with instructions how to configure apt | 06:15 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: this time complains about man page location, but the man is nowhere to be found inside debian/ | 06:20 |
| apokryphos | dh_install -- so many handy debian tools. =) | 06:20 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: unsermake installs some man pages that automake doesn't. you can either edit the debian/rules to cp them yourself, or just remove them from the .install | 06:21 |
| apokryphos | ok, I'll remove them | 06:21 |
| Riddell | cool | 06:21 |
| Riddell | winsux: ask in #kubuntu | 06:21 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: replace references to locolor/ icons with hicolor/, right? | 06:24 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: yes, I moved some locolour icons too | 06:25 |
| apokryphos | right | 06:25 |
| Riddell | curious how my artwork fixes end up being the biggest pain when it comes to packaging stuff | 06:26 |
| apokryphos | This stuff would be easy if I knew it -- later changes'll be easy. | 06:26 |
| tvo | Riddell: http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/junk/with_systray/katapult_0.2-0ubuntu3.{diff.gz,dsc} | 06:27 |
| tvo | systray not yet disabled but i won't have time for that until sat/sun (probably) | 06:27 |
| tvo | for the rest, it's all code+docs changes backported (not buildsys) | 06:28 |
| Riddell | tvo: cool, thanks | 06:34 |
| tvo | np | 06:34 |
| \sh | Riddell: libhk7-classes didn't exist neither in debian nor ubuntu...who packaged it? | 06:35 |
| Riddell | \sh: spooky, no idea | 06:36 |
| Riddell | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/libs/libhk-classes7 | 06:37 |
| Riddell | renamed | 06:38 |
| \sh | Riddell: I'll have a look on this...and requesting eventually a sync | 06:39 |
| \sh | Riddell: g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DHKCLASSES=\"/usr/lib/hk_classes\" -Wall -I/usr/include/python2.3 -g -O2 -MT libhk_classes_la-hk_actionquery.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/libhk_classes_la-hk_actionquery.Tpo -c hk_actionquery.cpp -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/libhk_classes_la-hk_actionquery.o | 06:45 |
| \sh | hk_dsvisible.h:36: error: 'hk_datasource' has not been declared | 06:45 |
| \sh | hk_dsvisible.h:39: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'hk_datasource' with no type | 06:45 |
| \sh | u really want it? | 06:45 |
| Riddell | \sh: gcc 4 error? I'm not that fussed but it has been requested more than once | 06:46 |
| \sh | Riddell: I don't know...but this was my first try | 06:47 |
| \sh | Riddell: it's not even in the second compile line ;) | 06:47 |
| Riddell | \sh: what's that? | 06:48 |
| \sh | Riddell: the first sourcefile is ftbfsing ;) | 06:49 |
| Riddell | hah, always a bad sign that :) | 06:49 |
| \sh | Riddell: it sucks ;) | 06:49 |
| \sh | Riddell: found a patch :) | 06:52 |
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| Riddell | OculusAquilae: is there a patch to not display the systray icon for katapult? | 06:55 |
| OculusAquilae | Riddell: we have one in svn | 06:55 |
| Riddell | OculusAquilae: what's the revision number? | 06:56 |
| OculusAquilae | Riddel: hm, I think it was before our svn | 06:57 |
| OculusAquilae | Riddell: I have this patch on my harddisk and Revision 8 and 13 are related with this | 06:58 |
| OculusAquilae | Riddell: OK 8 is a very little correction | 06:59 |
| apokryphos | What's "packaging without cleaning" (as in, what's the cleaning?) | 06:59 |
| Riddell | OculusAquilae: could you send me the patch? | 06:59 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: what's the context? | 06:59 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: debuild -nc to repackage without cleaning | 06:59 |
| OculusAquilae | Riddell: ok, but first I will integrate Revision 8 in it | 06:59 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: debuild (without -nc) will run the clean target which will remove any generated files. it will also take the opportunity to remake the .diff. means you have to do a complete compile afterwards if you want new .debs | 07:01 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: I did several debuilds in the process (got errors, fixed them, and redid). debuild seems to be fine now (did gpg key etc); the .debs are generated; should I run with the -nc or is that not necessary? | 07:03 |
| Riddell | OculusAquilae: what does 8 do? "small bugfix" isn't a very helpful log comment :) | 07:03 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: that's not necessary, -nc is just while you're making changes to the packaging and don't want to wait for a complete new recompile every time | 07:03 |
| \sh | Riddell: should we request a sync and fix it later, or do the universe standard via revu? | 07:03 |
| apokryphos | gah! Knew there was that simpler way. No worries. 8) | 07:04 |
| === apokryphos crosses fingers and installs debs | ||
| OculusAquilae | Riddell: correct .ui file | 07:04 |
| Riddell | \sh: sync may be faster, means no NEW | 07:05 |
| \sh | Riddell: k.. | 07:05 |
| apokryphos | Everything installed just fine =). Will go on to making a hoary chroot | 07:07 |
| \sh | Riddell: request done. | 07:09 |
| \sh | Riddell: and with patch hk-classes builds clean | 07:09 |
| OculusAquilae | Riddell: un the way via e-mail | 07:10 |
| OculusAquilae | s/un/on | 07:10 |
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| \sh | Riddell: it's already in the archive..fixing it now | 07:14 |
| Riddell | \sh: whuh? a sync that quick? | 07:17 |
| Riddell | or it was already synced? | 07:17 |
| \sh | Riddell: no...it was already synced | 07:17 |
| \sh | Riddell: I'm applying the patch now...and uploading new version | 07:17 |
| \sh | Riddell: adjusting the build-deps to python2.4 | 07:18 |
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| AnHu | hello, I found a bug with Gaim and KDE: After rebooting Gaim isn't in the KDE system treay again | 07:28 |
| AnHu | I mean tray | 07:28 |
| Riddell | AnHu: what happens when you then start gaim? | 07:31 |
| AnHu | well, when I start Gaim normally, it's in the system tray | 07:42 |
| \sh | grmp | 07:42 |
| \sh | why debian applied an python2.3 shit | 07:42 |
| AnHu | but if I reboot, it's not in the systemtray but it starts | 07:42 |
| AnHu | I have the problem with Kubuntu Hoary and an snapshot of Breezy (20050903) | 07:43 |
| Riddell | AnHu: so gaim is started but doesn't appear in the systray? | 07:45 |
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| JRe | Riddell: what module i have to recompile to enable hal backend? only kdebase, now ? | 07:50 |
| JRe | s/now/no/ | 07:50 |
| Riddell | JRe: yes, kdebase | 07:51 |
| Riddell | that's on my TODO list for this evening | 07:51 |
| JRe | Riddell: ok I'll do a try also | 07:51 |
| Riddell | JRe: good luck, let me know how it goes | 07:52 |
| Riddell | OculusAquilae: new katapult uploaded, thanks for the patches | 07:52 |
| OculusAquilae | Riddell: nice, np | 07:53 |
| \sh | hk-classes build with gcc4 + python2.4 | 07:53 |
| \sh | uploading | 07:53 |
| \sh | Riddell: u take care about knoda then? | 07:54 |
| Riddell | \sh: you rock | 07:54 |
| === \sh need some ally mcbeal | ||
| \sh | or at least her drugs ;) | 07:56 |
| AnHu | Riddell: Yes, so it is | 08:00 |
| AnHu | I think it's an kubuntu problem, because on other distros there isn't this problem | 08:00 |
| Riddell | AnHu: can you file a report on bugzilla.ubuntu.com, I'll look into it | 08:01 |
| AnHu | good. | 08:02 |
| AnHu | thanks a lot, jonathan | 08:02 |
| Riddell | AnHu: well, I can't promise it'll be fixed :) | 08:03 |
| AnHu | of course I cannot but I think you will fix it ;-) | 08:03 |
| AnHu | you cannot I mean | 08:04 |
| AnHu | ok, I entered the bug on bugzilla | 08:11 |
| === Riddell adds to TODO list | ||
| AnHu | thanks. Will I get a email, if the satus of the bugzilla entry will be changed? | 08:13 |
| JRe | Riddell: It's may be a HAL version trouble | 08:24 |
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| Riddell | JRe: what sort of trouble? | 08:26 |
| JRe | Riddell: checking for the HAL 0.4... searched but not found (and we have HAL 0.5) | 08:26 |
| Riddell | hmm | 08:26 |
| JRe | => checking if the HAL backend for media:/ sould be compiled... no | 08:26 |
| JRe | Riddell: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=DBUS | 08:27 |
| Riddell | there should be a patch to update it to 0.5 | 08:27 |
| Riddell | I think | 08:27 |
| Riddell | unless I'm getting my HAL versions confused | 08:27 |
| \sh | Riddell: somebody can work on knoda...i386/amd64 hk-classes are build ;) | 08:28 |
| Riddell | \sh: I'll let you know if I have some spare time :) | 08:28 |
| Riddell | maybe AnHu could be a new MOTU :) | 08:28 |
| \sh | Riddell: hint on the package? or is anyone working on it ? ;) | 08:28 |
| \sh | AnHu: please join #ubuntu-motu and help u ;) | 08:29 |
| \sh | s | 08:29 |
| Riddell | OculusAquilae: fancy seeing if knoda builds with the new hk-classes? | 08:29 |
| JRe | Riddell: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=111205990319427&w=2 | 08:34 |
| Riddell | JRe: that's just JRT :) | 08:34 |
| JRe | =) =) | 08:35 |
| JRe | Riddell: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101075 | 08:35 |
| JRe | Riddell: i think we have to patch kdebase/kioslave/media | 08:39 |
| AnHu | I, a new MOTU??? | 08:41 |
| AnHu | I'm not a developer | 08:42 |
| \sh | AnHu: but packager ;) | 08:42 |
| Riddell | AnHu: plenty room for improvement then :) | 08:44 |
| AnHu | \sh: Is there now a german documentation for packaging ?;-) | 08:44 |
| Riddell | JRe: I'm sure I already made a patch for it | 08:44 |
| JRe | Riddell: mmm ok | 08:44 |
| Riddell | JRe: unless I'm getting my HAL versions muddled up | 08:44 |
| \sh | AnHu: come on ;) | 08:44 |
| Riddell | JRe: look through the changelog | 08:44 |
| \sh | AnHu: packaging is easy...fixing bugs is the sport ;) | 08:45 |
| JRe | Riddell: ok i am exploring /debian | 08:45 |
| \sh | AnHu: and I think the debian new maintainer guide is also translated in german ;) | 08:45 |
| \sh | AnHu: u know bad boys with w. smitch and m. lawrence? I'm as well a "donknonothing" | 08:46 |
| JRe | Riddell: it was kubuntu_23_hal_api.diff but it's no more in kdebase/debian/patches | 08:46 |
| Riddell | JRe: can you track down a copy? | 08:53 |
| Riddell | I wonder where it went to | 08:54 |
| JRe | Riddell: I don't have older version of kdebase diff | 08:54 |
| JRe | the mistery of the missing patch =) | 08:54 |
| JRe | Riddell: on google i find it in http://dev.kubuntu.org.uk/~jr/kubuntu/ but the website is down | 08:55 |
| JRe | Riddell: and on unstable they're still with hal 0.4.8 so they don't have made a patch ATM | 08:56 |
| Riddell | hmmm | 09:08 |
| JRe | Riddell: I am trying to made such a patch using svn diff with the commits which fixed the bugs | 09:16 |
| \sh | Riddell: do we need konq-shellhere anymore? | 09:17 |
| Riddell | JRe: I suspect I must have removed it since it wouldn't have applied and maybe I thought it had been backported | 09:18 |
| Riddell | or maybe I just went mad | 09:18 |
| JRe | Riddell: i am exploring the log of configure.in.in of the 3.4 branche and it seems that it has not been backported | 09:20 |
| Riddell | and I don't have access to dev.kubuntu.org.uk now, and I can't find it in morgue | 09:21 |
| Riddell | \sh: what's that? | 09:21 |
| \sh | Riddell: "Open shell here" extension for Konqueror | 09:21 |
| \sh | but depends on konquere << 3.1.0-0 ,-) | 09:22 |
| Riddell | \sh: there's a separate package for that? | 09:22 |
| \sh | yes | 09:23 |
| Riddell | \sh: well Konqueror already has a Open Terminal Here action so it can be move to morgue | 09:23 |
| \sh | Riddell: merci :) | 09:23 |
| Riddell | JRe: try stealing the archlinux one http://cvs.archlinux.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/kde/kdebase/hal-0.5x.patch?cvsroot=Extra&only_with_tag=TESTING | 09:24 |
| JRe | Riddell: ok :) | 09:25 |
| Riddell | JRe: the patch was actually a joint effort between me and him so he won't mind :) | 09:25 |
| JRe | =) | 09:26 |
| JRe | Riddell: on configure.in.in patching, it's necessary to re run autoconf, no ? | 09:36 |
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| JRe | Riddell: this patch seems to be the good one but i put it in the debian/patches dir but when i build the package the configure script has not been updated | 09:47 |
| Riddell | JRe: hmm, that's always evil | 09:47 |
| Riddell | run make -f debian/rules buildprep | 09:47 |
| Riddell | see if that fixes it | 09:47 |
| JRe | Riddell: /j #cdbs | 09:49 |
| JRe | Riddell: sorry mistake | 09:49 |
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| JRe | Riddell: yeah! checking for the HAL... headers /usr/include/hal libraries /usr/lib | 09:54 |
| JRe | Riddell: checking if the HAL backend for media:/ sould be compiled... yes | 09:55 |
| Riddell | JRe: awooga | 09:55 |
| JRe | Riddell: so it seems that this patch resolve the problem. I am building right now and will test | 09:56 |
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| Riddell | JRe: have you thought about extending your media plugin stuff to be a general HAL listener? | 09:58 |
| Riddell | I don't know if that's a good idea or not but it would be cool to have graphical feedback when you plug in a network cable or whatever | 09:59 |
| JRe | Riddell: yeah i have thinked about it | 09:59 |
| JRe | Riddell: it could be a cool feature and is not hard to implement,since medianotifier listen dcop signals from hal backend | 10:00 |
| JRe | Riddell: but i wonder if the user would not be over sollicited | 10:00 |
| Riddell | it could be discreet, doesn't have to be the same big popup window, just a bubble or something | 10:02 |
| Riddell | JRe: something else that seems to have been lost in kdebase is not adding icons on the desktop of a new user | 10:02 |
| JRe | Riddell: yes, right. I think with Plasma, we will have the usefull widgets to do such a thing | 10:03 |
| JRe | Riddell: so I'll think on it for KDE 4 | 10:03 |
| JRe | Riddell: I am going to work also on KFloppy to have a decent drive format application in KDE | 10:04 |
| Riddell | JRe: so it will work with more than floppies? | 10:04 |
| JRe | (it will work also with usb drives, ...) | 10:04 |
| JRe | Riddell: yeah and it will integrated in the services menus | 10:05 |
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| JRe | Riddell: ok tested now HAL backend is working | 10:35 |
| Riddell | JRe: awooga | 10:36 |
| Riddell | JRe: can you send me that patch? | 10:36 |
| JRe | Riddell: I took the one you give me the URL | 10:36 |
| Riddell | ok, groovy | 10:37 |
| JRe | Riddell: and runned buildprep, nothing more =) | 10:37 |
| JRe | great, the "normal" hard drive are hidden | 10:39 |
| JRe | =) | 10:39 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: so when there are patches, do I do a patch -p1 < debian/patches/common/foo for each individual file in there (as in, is that it?) | 10:48 |
| apokryphos | Since, I get a lot of "FAILED" | 10:48 |
| apokryphos | i.e. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2222 | 10:49 |
| \sh | Riddell: is kde using gamin/inotify? | 10:51 |
| Riddell | \sh: gamin yes | 10:52 |
| Riddell | which I guess uses inotify in the backend | 10:53 |
| \sh | yes | 10:53 |
| \sh | we have a serious issue with it | 10:53 |
| Riddell | the menu stuff? | 10:53 |
| \sh | yes | 10:53 |
| \sh | did u ever see it with kde? | 10:53 |
| Riddell | nope | 10:55 |
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| apokryphos | Riddell: what should I do? :) | 11:27 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: yes, that's what you do | 11:28 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: if it fails you have to fix the patch | 11:28 |
| Riddell | which is the nasty bit | 11:29 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: what are you packaging? | 11:29 |
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| apokryphos | Riddell: kdetoys for hoary | 11:29 |
| apokryphos | there are quite a few of them | 11:29 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: I thought you said kdetoys had no patches | 11:42 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: the breezy source I got for it had none | 11:42 |
| apokryphos | the hoary source seems to have quite a few | 11:42 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: just use the breezy source | 11:42 |
| apokryphos | ok | 11:42 |
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