[12:03] hey [12:03] Pc22 [12:03] pc22: i'm sure you are not [12:04] i cant send private msg. toe you [12:04] why not === the_lord [n=the_lord@200.93.46.53] has joined #kubuntu [12:05] no unidentified users can send private messages on freenode === dw7 [n=kvirc@host-84-9-34-225.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === pirsl [n=pirsl@83.142.209.219] has joined #kubuntu === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has left #kubuntu ["--out"] [12:17] will be back [12:17] brb === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu === nomeansyes [n=trax@27.Red-83-40-246.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu === Spudchat [n=Spuddle@ppp-69-222-176-248.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === Earered [n=plcm@pdc35-1-82-242-133-35.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu [] === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@82.158.45.73] has joined #kubuntu === Spudchat [n=Spuddle@ppp-69-222-176-248.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] === Spudchat [n=Spuddle@ppp-69-222-176-248.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === nxv_ [n=nxv_@dsl-084-056-094-107.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === Spudchat [n=Spuddle@ppp-69-222-176-248.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [12:37] <_hippie> how to install kde 3.4.2 in amd64? [12:38] _hippie: you'd have to compile; there's no repo with it [12:39] <_hippie> apokryphos: how to install packages for amd64? [12:40] <_hippie> compile? [12:40] You'd have to compile if you really wanted 3.4.2, yes [12:40] though, you could just wait till breezy is out [12:40] <_hippie> and for other apps? [12:41] what other apps? [12:41] <_hippie> apps non-kde [12:42] What's your question? === aseigo_home [n=aseigo@S01060050da7e3039.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:44] <_hippie> i want know how to install apps amd64 in kubuntu [12:44] _hippie: most cases you'll be able to get them from the repositories === nxv_ [n=nxv_@dsl-084-056-094-107.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:45] for most kde versions you'd be able to, too, but currently only 3.4.0 is available for 64-bit [12:45] <_hippie> ok, thanks apokryphos [12:54] what is katapult === wincide [n=trax@27.Red-83-40-246.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:54] how exactly is it used [12:55] hello all [12:56] I have a problem with an od box [12:56] dual protz, scsi [12:56] 7years old [12:56] Im not able to boot the machine [12:57] post is running and they than Bios is installed [12:57] and then go noting [12:57] blackflag: neither floppy or bootable cdrom works? [12:57] no disc, cdrom or HD [12:57] The machine stand for a half year === Blissex [n=Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #KUbuntu [12:58] and there was a debian installed [12:58] have you checked the bios battery? [12:58] I put a pci Video card in, no agp support on board === lui [n=lui@22sosua109.codetel.net.do] has joined #kubuntu [12:59] the battery? how can I check ? [12:59] hello hello [12:59] blackflag: on the motherboard is a battery the size of an american/canadian quarter [01:00] anyone who wants dreamweaver mx in linux talk to me [01:00] blackflag: if the box is 7 years old, the battery probably needs changing [01:00] yes I know, and then? [01:00] change it or what should I do? [01:01] blackflag: a new battery may fix your problem [01:01] lui how? [01:01] one step at a time [01:01] hmm okay I will try [01:01] lui: we don't discuss warez and such here, take it to #kubuntu-offtopic, please === jpowers [n=jpowers@208-59-170-43.c3-0.slvr-ubr2.lnh-slvr.md.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu [01:02] ok [01:03] lets go there jdef === Spudchat [n=Spuddle@ppp-69-222-176-248.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === paul1 [n=Paul@203-206-16-235.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [01:09] hi everyone [01:09] Hi Spudchat [01:09] i just installed the 686 kernel for higher mem support and my resolution became tiny [01:09] where would i go to fix that? [01:09] and hi paul1 [01:10] I can't see how one would effect the other. [01:10] me neither but it did [01:11] Resolutions are usually set in your /etc/X11/Xorg file [01:11] Spudchat: you using kubuntu or ubuntu? [01:11] kubuntu [01:12] Spudchat: i'm not up to speed on resolution setting in kde, have you tried the control panel? [01:13] hmm [01:13] jdef: a pretty application launcher, inspired by Quicksilver on OS X [01:14] ok it looks like it isnt the resolution that is the problem [01:14] but everything looks so damn tiny i can barely read it [01:14] Spudchat: Maybe just your font sizes changed. [01:15] Spudchat: Or your dots per inch [01:17] well i just changed some of the font sizes and he still looks tiniy === lwells [n=lwells@ip68-228-77-244.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:20] apokryphos how exactly do I use it [01:20] jdef: alt+f2 -> katapult [01:20] alt+f2 for perhaps the last time, that is ;-) === chavo [n=chavo@146.sub-70-216-125.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu === darkspirit [n=darkspir@196.206.0.202] has joined #kubuntu [01:25] ok and how do u configure it [01:25] jdef: what do you want to change about it? [01:26] let's say I want to launch firefox with it [01:26] jdef: then go for it [01:26] alt+space -> fire [01:27] ah, it tries to launch firefox central [01:27] that's because it's trying to use bookmarks, I guess [01:27] right-click on the tray icon to configure that === op [n=op@c-69-180-43-207.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:29] really cool! [01:29] i have a second drive on me computer which i am trying to mount and i am trying to type in "mkdir /mnt/seccond_hdd" but it is saying permission denied. anyone know why? [01:29] jdef: it's nice, eh? ;-) === Spudchat [n=Spuddle@ppp-69-222-176-248.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:30] excellent! [01:30] =) === aseigo_home is now known as aseigo === aseigo is now known as aseigori === aseigori is now known as aseigo [01:31] op: we are sorry, all our telepathic advisors are busy on other lines... :-) [01:32] Blissex: did you let Miss Cleo go for coffee again? === hon [n=hon@gazor3.ece.queensu.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:32] okay then can anyone point me in the direction of a site that explains how to mount a drive i have never done it before === dutch [n=dutch@cpe-065-190-182-028.nc.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:33] op: what filesystem? ntfs? fat? [01:33] i think one is ntfs and one is fat === loas [n=loas@201008004008.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu === loas is now known as apow [01:33] i am trying to mount both of them [01:34] !windowsdrives [01:34] somebody said windowsdrives was Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically [01:34] okay thanks [01:34] op: you can use that handy lil' script; it'll do it automagically for you. === downclimb [n=johnson@host-69-145-229-49.cac-co.client.bresnan.net] has joined #kubuntu === blackflag [n=stefan@p54ABCD91.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:43] back again [01:43] :-) [01:43] I changed the battery but this is not the raeson [01:44] why I cant boot the system [01:44] what could it be? [01:45] The scsi drives are all to see during post [01:45] also that there is a bootable cdrom inserted === jdef [n=jdef@cuscon3465.tstt.net.tt] has joined #kubuntu [01:45] but nothing goes [01:46] and t5here is a debian on the box [01:46] blackflag: you haven't pur CDROMs before hard discs in the boot order perhaps? === zorba64 [n=zorba64@dsl-210-211-91-151.qld.veridas.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:47] no [01:47] I have 2 bios's === jdef [n=jdef@cuscon3465.tstt.net.tt] has joined #kubuntu [01:47] the normal and the scsi [01:47] under the normal there is no choice to boot from cdrom only under the scsi bios [01:48] how do I autoconnect witha registered nick in konversation [01:48] ANd under the scsi bios I can only say from which ID I want to boot [01:49] for a half year I installed the system and do nothing then with that [01:49] now I want and nothing goes:-( [01:49] what is happened? === jdef [n=jdef@cuscon3465.tstt.net.tt] has joined #kubuntu [01:51] jdef: edit the default identity and under Auto identify, put Service: nickserv [01:51] and of course your pass, after that === jdef [n=jdef@cuscon3465.tstt.net.tt] has joined #kubuntu [01:53] speaking of katapult, Riddell: are you going to be developing/maintaining katapult now, then? [01:53] rubberband seems to be working faster as of late; I saw somewhere that slow rubberband was generally down to not having some Qt patch; I guess it would be going slower if it didn't have that, but anyhow... [01:54] apokryphos: there's a project on berlios, jre and me and others would like to work on it if there's e [01:54] ever time [01:55] Really like it; wondering why this hasn't hit the masses; been out for some time [01:55] apokryphos: what is that? [01:56] nalioth: primarily an application launcher for kde [01:56] apokryphos: aside from the "run" menu option? [01:57] It's meant to work a lot with plugins, though. By default also handles documents and bookmarks [01:57] nalioth: yes, similar to that. [01:59] apokryphos : using it I like it shouldn't be hidden though [02:00] jdef: hidden? === Bicchi [n=albert@adsl-065-006-167-199.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:01] apokryphos: only found it by chance reading on website no menu entry [02:02] Yup; as I said, it doesn't seem to be well-known [02:02] can anyone explain all the options during bootup in grub. I have: "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic Default" "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic Default (recovery mode)" "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic" "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic (recovery mode)" [02:03] not sure if/how Kubuntu is going to rectify it. I guess replacing Run Command... is an option, but not sure if it'll happen. You'd have to ask Riddell here :) [02:04] hmm? [02:04] while it's pretty/speedy, it lacks the options (and perhaps integration of kde) that alt+f2 has; probably an issue. [02:04] Riddell: how will people know of katapult? :D [02:04] apokryphos: same way they know of alt-f2 I guess [02:04] alt-space is the new alt-f2 [02:05] Most know that from K Menu -> Run Command, I think. [02:05] Riddell: originally, I reckon, at least. [02:05] apokryphos: really useful for me I hat navigating menus [02:07] Riddell: great job on this version of Kubuntu really noticeable differences stability wise on my system [02:08] jdef: what was unstable before? [02:09] Riddell: first version of Kubuntu crashed regularly on my system [02:10] Riddell: eventually switched to Ubuntu but KDE my preferred desktop this Breezy preview rocks === apokryphos hopes Konqueror crashes fix. Never experienced them, but it turned quite a few people away from kde [02:10] random crashes are evil, especially when only some people get them, just plain spooky [02:12] Riddell: this one runs like the wind on my system [02:12] apart from that, only other real issue was admin mode in kcontrol === apokryphos wonders how Riddell does it all. SuSE for example seem to have so many packagers, and we still beat them to it :D [02:13] apokryphos: that was a KDE related problem wasn't it? [02:13] apokryphos: quality over quantity [02:13] jdef: pretty much. I think it might have had something to do with su -> sudo change in kdesu, too [02:14] nalioth: SuSE have some pretty amazing coders in the world of KDE, though. ;-) [02:14] anyone here using adept? what are your impressions [02:14] jdef: better than Kynaptic, but I'm still preferring KPackage. Split view gives me a bad recollection of HTML frames [02:14] apokryphos: with Novell handing out the $$$, why wouldnt they? [02:14] 8) [02:15] pretty much the first thing I did was install synaptic [02:15] apokryphos: which reminds me, volunteers needed for making KDE 3.5 packages :) [02:15] beta 1 === Jeezis [n=roger@pdpc/supporter/student/Jeezis] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete] [02:16] Heh. Now, if only I could package properly :) [02:16] Riddell, when is beta 1 coming out? [02:16] would like to help but pretty much zero knowledge of any type of programming === ..[topic/#kubuntu:Riddell] : Kubuntu Breezy Preview http://www.kubuntu.org/breezy-preview.php | Adept tesers: sudo apt-get install adept | Non-kde-related questions: #ubuntu as well | Nederlands #kubuntu-nl | Espaol #kubuntu-es | Deutsch #kubuntu-de Unofficil Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ [02:16] chavo: yesterday I think it was scheduled for [02:16] doubt I'd even be able to do enough packaging to even get into the world of packaging some big like kde (within, say, a year :P) [02:16] jdef: there are more ways to help than programming knowledge [02:17] nalioth: for instance? [02:17] jdef: Kubuntu is in need of documentation, as it is. === troy [n=troy@wnpgmb01dc2-30-55.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:17] aha, Release 3.4.91 (beta1, >20050910) [02:17] already running it [02:17] jdef: using the latest builds to test for bugs, docs, as apokryphos points out [02:17] I upgraded from svn yesterday [02:17] jdef: hangin in here and helping new users [02:18] Riddell, is 3.5 going into breezy? [02:19] chavo: nope === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.226.250] has joined #kubuntu [02:19] Riddell: hm, just saw the kubuntu 3.5 wiki pack process. Looks like something I could go through. :) [02:20] in this point ubuntu sucks... the chaining to gnome-releases [02:21] where can I get more info on helping with Docs [02:21] jdef: #ubuntu-doc [02:22] jdef: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamGettingStarted [02:25] Can anyone explain all menu options of grub during bootup. Like one says generic the other says (recovery mode) ? [02:25] I found the boot problem [02:25] it is the pci vidio card [02:25] removing all pci's and I can boot again [02:26] Bicchi: recovery mode drops you into a root shell [02:26] but plugin the pci vidio card nothing goes [02:26] there is vidiocontroller on board [02:26] blackflag: try another pci slot? [02:26] hmm no [02:26] good idea [02:26] moment [02:27] nalioth: yeah but one says "Default" and the other does not? [02:27] default should boot you into (k)ubuntu [02:27] and the other? [02:27] Bicchi: i dont have grub, i run yaboot [02:27] so what is: Ubuntu, kernel memtest86+ [02:27] "make" is not installed by default in kubuntu breezy. is there an important reson behind this? [02:28] hon: kubuntu is aimed at desktop users, not developers [02:29] hmm nothing goes [02:29] but gcc 4 is installed, and also imake [02:29] it seems there is conflict between the 2 vidio's [02:29] hon: install "build-essential" [02:30] and cant find a bio setting to turn off theonboard vidio [02:30] Bicchi: basically a diagnostic tool and benchmark for RAM [02:30] what can I do? [02:30] jdef: so its not a boot option? why would it be there ? [02:31] nalioth: thanks. [02:31] Its important to me cause with the onboard vidio controller I get only a resolution 800x600 [02:31] not good for wrk [02:31] I just was curious why it wasn't installed :) [02:31] Bicchi: to test your ram for proper function [02:31] hon: see reason above [02:31] yeah :) [02:32] Is it possible wit such old hardware to have 2 vidiocontrollers? === ctw [n=ctw@129-79-193-33.dhcp-bl.indiana.edu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:32] does anyone know of a program so i can stream music from archive.org ? [02:33] so i just want to know the difference between: "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic Default" and "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic" [02:36] Bicchi: looks to be the same entry [02:37] Bicchi: best way to determine boot each option [02:38] jdef: and then what type uname -a [02:39] Bicchi: yes I believe both entries are the same [02:39] jdef: funny how i am dual booting yet have 6 boot options [02:40] Bicchi: have you upgraded your box? [02:40] nalioth: yes [02:40] Bicchi: yeah that seems to be a little prob with GRUB detection but fairly easy to rectify [02:41] Bicchi: then you're probably lookin at older kernels === ..[topic/#kubuntu:Riddell] : Kubuntu Breezy Preview http://www.kubuntu.org/breezy-preview.php | test adept: sudo apt-get install adept | Non-kde-related questions: #ubuntu as well | Nederlands #kubuntu-nl | Espaol #kubuntu-es | Deutsch #kubuntu-de| Unofficial Kubuntu FAQ http://kudos.berlios.de/ [02:42] nalioth: but upgrading should modify my grub menu to include the new kernel? [02:42] Bicchi: whenever you upgrade to a new kernel, it should upgrade your menu.lst, also [02:43] it does. but i have been using the same kernel version. not sure why it does not change [02:43] what version do you have now? [02:44] i have Linux dualg5 2.6.10-5-power4-smp #1 SMP Thu Sep 8 08:15:52 UTC 2005 ppc GNU/Linux [02:45] Linux dilsexic 2.6.12-8-386 #1 Tue Aug 30 22:41:30 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux [02:45] hydrogen: you living in the past? [02:45] wtf [02:45] yes [02:45] I guess I am [02:45] hrm [02:46] interesting [02:46] i guess [02:46] thats odd [02:46] because date shows it right [02:46] maybe cause i have a 64 bit machine? === hydrogen shrugs [02:46] Wed Sep 14 20:48:36 EDT 2005 [02:46] from date [02:47] oh [02:47] no, thats not current time [02:47] maybe each architecture carrries different kernel and they are not necesarily sinchonized. [02:47] well [02:47] I'm using 2.6.12 and you are using 2.6.10 === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.226.250] has joined #kubuntu [02:48] yeap [02:49] here is my uname -a [02:49] Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic #1 Thu Sep 8 07:06:01 UTC 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux [02:49] i just upgraded === pc12 [n=pc12@203.131.130.86] has joined #kubuntu === pc12 is now known as wa_wa [02:53] whose from phil here [02:53] any one here === benford [n=benford@ip70-190-177-35.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:56] question? has anyone else noticed that linuxquestions.org has been down or is this just me? === ManLord [n=martin@220.80-202-255.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu [02:57] sorry if it is a bit off topic === _ethan [n=ethan@pool-70-20-114-176.pitt.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === _ethan [n=ethan@pool-70-20-114-176.pitt.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === jdef [n=jdef@cuscon3465.tstt.net.tt] has joined #kubuntu [03:20] does the kubuntu breezy preview come with java installed [03:20] jdef: no it does not [03:20] jdef, yes [03:20] it did here [03:21] or I got an iso that came out just before the preview [03:21] I know I haven't installed it but java -version gives 1.4.2 [03:21] chavo: you sure? it's not legally allowed [03:21] nalioth: it seems it did [03:22] (k)ubuntu can't include anything patented or copyrighted (that's what multiverse and extras are for) [03:22] nalioth, yes it's in there [03:22] anybody else notice java included [03:22] it is [03:23] maybe someone can help with my hardware issue [03:23] for me at least ;) === beks [n=beks@p549FFBEB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:23] I have it running in a vmware right now [03:23] when iplug in apci card than Im not able to boot [03:23] Riddell: is java included in the Breezy preview [03:23] Apperently even with Suns wierd licensing it is. [03:23] different ports , different cards [03:23] jdef: gcj does seem to be yes [03:24] not able to boot then === toma [n=toma@203-59-33-220.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu [03:24] no idea how well that works [03:24] java version "1.4.2" [03:24] Has somewone an idea?? === nalioth feels cheated. his cd didnt have java of any kind [03:24] ok I have the latest version how do I uninstall current version [03:25] nalioth: almost everything in kubuntu is copyrighted (just a technicality :) [03:25] Riddell: that must be the difference tween ubuntu and (k)ubuntu === nalioth is still learnin all this stuff [03:25] nalioth: no, almost everything in ubuntu is copyrighted as well [03:27] I have troubles with ivman on breezy [03:27] Riddell: then i'm confused as to why 'extras' [03:27] i have a lot to learn [03:28] nalioth: free software like KDE is copyrighted but with a licence to allow free (liberal) copying. proprietry software like acrobat reader etc etc is copyrighted with a licence restricting copying === nalioth is gettin a head spinning sensation [03:30] so it's restrictive licences that are avoided === Coccolino [n=Cocco@81-174-6-41.f5.ngi.it] has joined #kubuntu === Coccolino [n=Cocco@81-174-6-41.f5.ngi.it] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [03:36] java plugins not configured === Octane [i=octane@dsl092-100-119.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu === _jeff [n=jeff@prsstnhed01-pool0-a219.prsstn.tds.net] has joined #kubuntu === _jeff is now known as jsrockervox === _jeff [n=jeff@prsstnhed01-pool0-a219.prsstn.tds.net] has joined #kubuntu === _jeff is now known as jsrockervox [03:49] hello [03:49] howdy [03:50] pretty cool [03:50] I just put Kubuntu onmy dell laptop [03:50] welcome! [03:51] I've tried several linux distros, but havent had much luck [03:51] I kind of a novice when it comes to the linux world [03:52] you've picked a well supported distro with kubuntu [03:53] jsrockervox: kubuntu working? === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu === [mark] [n=mark@219.94.45.254] has joined #kubuntu [04:01] I don't seem to be able to remove current java environment w/out uninstalling Oo anyway around this? [04:02] jdef: if you dont get any other answers, let me know [04:03] jdef: OO.o depends on it, so I doubt it :/ [04:03] narg: looking to install latest java environ webplugins in the included version don't seem to work === marndt [n=marndt@CPE-72-129-144-214.new.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu === othernoob [n=othernoo@p54A2FB65.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:04] yeah it's working [04:06] It seems ok, it just so far k3b is getting an error about cddao [04:06] jsrockervox: for some reason, k3b doesnt install cdrdao [04:06] and I can't watch dvd's on it yet because of the css encryption [04:06] jsrockervox: you can install it [04:06] jdef: it should work, but its not nessessarly configured. [04:06] !tell jsrockervox about restricted [04:07] jdef: In konq, you need to enter its path, and in firefox, I've never actually gotten java to work :p [04:07] are we going to be depended on gstreamer in breezy? [04:07] narg: I installed and configured the plugin and confirmed presence but not working properly browser hanging === carlos [n=carlos@pool-141-150-139-122.mad.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:07] jdef: oh :\ [04:07] jdef: never seen that one before [04:08] jdef: All apps, or just a certain one? [04:08] narg: I have always configured for firefox and konq [04:08] narg: firefox in this case [04:08] jdef: No, I mean for all java applets, or just a certain one === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:09] cool [04:09] I am actually trying to switch to linux instead of ms windows [04:10] narg: at javatester which is where i usually confirm it works properly [04:10] this kubuntu seems pretty fast [04:10] jsrockervox: yeah it glides doesn't it [04:10] Riddell: are we going to depend on gstreamer in kubuntu breezy? [04:10] jdef: I have no idea :/ sorry. [04:11] jdef: I assume you can't apt-get upgrade it, possibly with backports? [04:11] sure does [04:11] looks nice too === enchanter [n=chiez@219.235.231.32] has joined #kubuntu === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:12] narg: no backports yet [04:12] i have a P4 laptop w/2 mb cache - 512 mb DDR and a widescreen xga screen [04:12] 1.5 ghz [04:13] jsrockervox: what model dell [04:13] I was able to get the speedstepping turned off in ms windows by turning off all the power saving but cant find where to turn it off in linux [04:13] it's a Inspiron 6000\ [04:13] it's not bad [04:14] not the best but not bad [04:14] It has a DVD burner so the DVD thing pretty important [04:14] nalioth: suggestions on my java problem [04:15] jdef, have you tried installing both? You can pick a specific location for the java binary in knoq prefs. [04:15] jdef: talk to seveas in #ubuntu. he has a deb that might work [04:15] konq that is ^ [04:16] chavo: wouldn't that cause problems to java environs === jsrockervox [n=jeff@prsstnhed01-pool0-a219.prsstn.tds.net] has joined #kubuntu === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.226.250] has joined #kubuntu [04:17] sorry, i closed the window === apokryphos [n=dw@host-84-9-34-225.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:20] Hi everyone...I finally got my wifi card working! I believe what fixed it was using the bcmwl5a.inf dirve [04:22] so hows life in linux [04:24] jsrockervox: you tell us, you are the newly virus-free computer user === marndt [n=marndt@CPE-72-129-144-214.new.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:24] I don't need to shell out my money to Bill for software that only works sometimes [04:24] but he's such a nice guy! [04:25] jsrockervox: marndt brings up another good point about your new linux box [04:25] he looks like a goon. [04:25] god knows he needs the money [04:25] yeah microsoft sucks === nalioth would like to have .0000001 % of his money [04:26] I work part time in a computer shop and microsuck keeps us in work [04:26] haha [04:26] believe me, I deal with their software everyday...it's not good [04:26] jsrockervox: oh yes, not a problem. but that doesnt mean you have to like them [04:26] for all of their money, you would think that they would test it better === apokryphos is reminded of http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=208 [04:26] I do alot of virus removal and reloads [04:26] sound familiar? [04:26] lmao [04:27] jsrockervox: not on your kubuntu box anymore [04:27] No, acutally, I don't need to remove viruses [04:27] I think i know the windows registry better than bill does by now [04:27] that's the "Microsoft tries to recruit me by Eric S. Raymond." [04:27] I have a helper of mine make sure every month to go and check each host to make sure that Windows Updates and antivirus is current [04:27] It's like a breeding grounds for crap [04:28] But it's ridiculous that you need to pay money for antivirus! [04:28] windows me and windows nt got together and had a horrible baby...windows XP [04:28] haha [04:29] Think about it...people exploit flaws in Windows...Microsoft should release free software that prevents and removes malware [04:29] yeah [04:29] they have an anti spyware but it sucks too [04:29] apokryphos: I see a lot of people reacted negatively to his response [04:29] i guess cause if it was a good one they'd get sued [04:30] jsrockervox: spyware becoming really frustrating to remove [04:30] jdef: I hadn't noticed; skimmed a few and they were more "lol" responses [04:30] yeah [04:30] Then, another whole situation is Microsoft Business Solutions....what a fricken joke! === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:30] it getting to the point where it just corrupt files [04:30] corrupt winsocks2 [04:31] Microsoft Business Solutions = "Top 10 Ways to Ruin Your Business While We Laugh All The Way To The Bank" [04:31] It's the biggest reason why im trying to move over to linux [04:31] I'm gettign real tired of cleaning this thing out [04:32] jsrockervox: all my years in windows I never got a virus/spyware [04:32] jsrockervox: but then I'm pretty paranoid [04:32] lmao [04:32] I got viruses on the network at work...Usually it was my fault for not keeping the Windows Updates current [04:32] lol [04:33] jsrockervox: cleaned a hell of alot on other machines [04:34] same here [04:34] did a little experiment the other day surfed the internet w/out protection picked up a virus in 30 secs thk god for vmware [04:34] and the stinking blue screen and illegal operaqtion [04:34] Microsoft is gay [04:34] illegal operation is my favorite [04:34] I loaded a ME machine down in 30 minutes [04:35] 256 mb Ram [04:35] once went on a job interview where the asked for the solution to illega operation message === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:35] down to 6% recourses free in 30 minutes [04:35] Does anyone know if you can download vpnc on Kubuntu? [04:36] basically you could go on the internet and get a few neat toolbars, hotbar, smiley central, wintools and be stuck in 30 minutes [04:36] how do I edit my profile file? === utta [n=brandon@c-24-128-224-224.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:37] I know the solution to illegal operations [04:37] some napalm and a match [04:38] Or a Linux bootable CD. [04:38] haha === dw7 [n=kvirc@host-84-9-34-225.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu [04:48] does anyone know the repo for vpnc? [04:48] marndt: universe, pretty sure [04:48] !info vpnc [04:48]