segfault | validate.sh about-ubuntu.xml | 12:34 |
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segfault | about-ubuntu.xml:16: element inlinemediaobject: validity error : Element inlinemediaobject content does not follow the DTD, expecting (objectinfo? , (videoobject | audioobject | imageobject) , (videoobject | audioobject | imageobject | textobject)*), got (imageobject caption ) | 12:34 |
segfault | about-ubuntu.xml:20: element caption: validity error : Element caption content does not follow the DTD, expecting (calloutlist | glosslist | itemizedlist | orderedlist | segmentedlist | simplelist | variablelist | caution | important | note | tip | warning | literallayout | programlisting | programlistingco | screen | screenco | screenshot | formalpara | para | simpara | blockquote)*, got (CDATA) | 12:34 |
segfault | Document about-ubuntu.xml does not validate | 12:34 |
segfault | i suppose there's something wrong? | 12:35 |
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jjesse | wow and i thought the days Eastern time are slow, the nights are even slower here :) | 04:26 |
robotgeek | heh | 04:28 |
Madpilot | it's already midnight on the N. American eastern seaboard... | 04:44 |
jjesse | not yet, 10:47pm | 04:45 |
Madpilot | meh - added an hour, sorry! | 04:45 |
jjesse | grin np | 04:46 |
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jsgotangco | salut all | 06:27 |
robitaille | hi jsgotangco | 06:33 |
jsgotangco | hey | 06:33 |
jsgotangco | im in linuxworld ph | 06:33 |
jsgotangco | hehe | 06:33 |
jsgotangco | shitty wireless and all | 06:34 |
robitaille | lucky you. I'm at home contemplating the work still to be done tonight.... | 06:35 |
robitaille | work = real-life work as opposed to fun ubuntu work | 06:35 |
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rob^ | wow, a lot happens when one is away for a day.. | 07:03 |
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rob^ | hmm.. | 07:49 |
Madpilot | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/newbies <-- this is a good page, but it should have a better title - redirect to ???? (need ideas here...) | 08:06 |
rob^ | bah. what happen to that UbuntuNewbies whatever it was group? I think it kind of fizzled out (surprise surprise). | 08:07 |
Madpilot | heh | 08:07 |
Burgundavia | nun | 08:07 |
rob^ | yeah thats it, haven't heard much lately from it | 08:08 |
Madpilot | what do nuns have to do with it? ;) | 08:08 |
rob^ | haha | 08:08 |
rob^ | keeping the newbies Ubuntu-faithful | 08:09 |
Madpilot | giving Burgundavia grief about his lousy typing is a hobby of mine | 08:09 |
Burgundavia | ya ya | 08:09 |
Madpilot | this is because I never make mistooks | 08:09 |
Madpilot | slightly more seriously: anyone got ideas on what to do with that newbies page? no links to anywhere, and it should be capital-N anyway... | 08:10 |
rob^ | does the content belong/is it already covered elsewhere? | 08:11 |
Madpilot | the content? | 08:11 |
Burgundavia | not on the first twenty links on a search for "ubuntu newbies" | 08:11 |
rob^ | of the wiki page | 08:11 |
Burgundavia | redirect to UserDocumentation | 08:11 |
Madpilot | should, I guess. but I do like how the newbies page is written | 08:12 |
Burgundavia | garbage | 08:12 |
rob^ | yeah | 08:12 |
Madpilot | except that it recommends the root terminal, and stuff | 08:12 |
Burgundavia | newbies don't need stuff about speeding stuff up and other DE's | 08:12 |
Burgundavia | and FF themes | 08:12 |
Madpilot | ah well, good idea, badly done. I'll delete and redir to UserDoc | 08:12 |
Burgundavia | redirect to UserDoc, we will loose nothing | 08:12 |
Burgundavia | hmm | 08:13 |
Burgundavia | s/loose/lose | 08:13 |
rob^ | mmm gnome mud.. | 08:16 |
Madpilot | done | 08:16 |
Madpilot | rob^: what? | 08:16 |
rob^ | buffy mud | 08:17 |
Madpilot | buffy the vampire fondler? | 08:17 |
Burgundavia | Madpilot, if you want something to do, merge https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto into https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager | 08:22 |
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Madpilot | which URL should have the actual content? | 08:24 |
Burgundavia | NetworkManager | 08:25 |
Madpilot | OK. I'm just doing a straight cut-n-paste port, though. I'm still running Hoary, remember? | 08:25 |
Burgundavia | that is fine | 08:26 |
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Burgundavia | it can be cleaned up later | 08:26 |
Madpilot | OK | 08:26 |
Burgundavia | grr, fonts in FF change every bloody day it seems | 08:27 |
Madpilot | heh | 08:27 |
Madpilot | have I told you about my fun with fonts in Opera? | 08:27 |
Burgundavia | no | 08:28 |
Madpilot | Burgundavia: http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=101558 | 08:29 |
Burgundavia | hmm, fun | 08:30 |
Madpilot | it was messy, and the cause of four seperate bug reports filed with Opera... | 08:30 |
Madpilot | Opera's bug database doesn't seem to be publicly searchable, though :( | 08:31 |
Burgundavia | ouch | 08:31 |
Madpilot | yeah | 08:32 |
Madpilot | I know it's closed-source, etc etc, but a searchable bug database would certainly save duplication & staff time... | 08:32 |
Madpilot | Burgundavia: NetworkManager stuff moved. There's still a lot of how-to-compile-your-own stuff there that'll have to be nuked by someone else | 08:36 |
Burgundavia | Madpilot, cheers | 08:37 |
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Madpilot | just fired off an email on the whole "how to organize UserDocumentation" thing... now off to blow people up in ET, back later | 08:51 |
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robotgeek | hi, i was away...by i wrote the NetworkmanagerHowto | 09:34 |
robotgeek | is there a wiki for how to organise UserDocumentation...since i am not a member of the doc-team | 09:36 |
mdke | hi robotgeek | 09:51 |
mdke | what do you have in mind? | 09:52 |
robotgeek | i am also working on a bluetooth howto, and a multisync howto | 09:52 |
mdke | that's great | 09:52 |
mdke | you can add links to your guides to the UserDocumentation page | 09:52 |
robotgeek | the only reason i havent joined the doc-team is right now i don't know how much time i can devote | 09:52 |
robotgeek | they are still drafts, so they are there...but not quite what i would like. mostly incomplete | 09:53 |
mdke | that's great anyway | 09:54 |
mdke | if you want you can mark them in CategoryCleanup | 09:55 |
mdke | that way, someone who is looking for something to do can take a look at them to complete them | 09:55 |
robotgeek | hmm..did not know that..i just marked them as drafts and left them without linking | 09:55 |
mdke | :) | 09:56 |
mdke | thanks for your work in any case | 09:56 |
mdke | robotgeek, did you join our mailing list? | 09:56 |
robotgeek | nope... | 09:56 |
robotgeek | should i just join on launchpad? | 09:56 |
robotgeek | i am a member of nun | 09:56 |
robotgeek | i added both those to category cleanup | 09:59 |
mdke | the launchpad group is currently really for members of the docteam who have upload rights to our repository | 10:01 |
mdke | robotgeek, the best thing is to join the mailing list | 10:01 |
mdke | and you can join the wiki team in LP if you like | 10:01 |
robotgeek | good idea... | 10:01 |
mdke | if you are interested in helping to cleanup and organise the wiki | 10:02 |
robotgeek | yeah, i will join up | 10:02 |
robotgeek | i just wanted the easier approach :) i'm lazy! | 10:02 |
mdke | easier approach? | 10:03 |
robotgeek | without much work on my side :) | 10:04 |
robotgeek | i subscribed to the mailing list | 10:05 |
robotgeek | i guess i'll hang in there, and then when i am sure about the amount of time i can spend, join the wiki team | 10:06 |
mdke | cool | 10:06 |
mdke | thanks for your work | 10:06 |
robotgeek | no problem | 10:06 |
robotgeek | were the articles good? :) | 10:07 |
robotgeek | mdke: alrite, i guess i'll hang in here and on the list more often. gnite | 10:11 |
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klepas | moin | 10:27 |
mdke | hi | 10:28 |
klepas | :-) | 10:29 |
jsgotangco | hi | 10:29 |
mdke | hey jsgotangco | 10:29 |
jsgotangco | whats up im in linuxworld | 10:29 |
jsgotangco | heh | 10:29 |
klepas | oh, nice | 10:30 |
jsgotangco | i think i've become quite a celebrity locally | 10:30 |
mdke | cool | 10:30 |
jsgotangco | im surprised | 10:30 |
mdke | me too | 10:31 |
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klepas | gotta grab that for Saturday's bug day | 10:32 |
klepas | :) | 10:32 |
jsgotangco | haha | 10:32 |
jsgotangco | mdke, its silly, someone actually asked for a picture with me | 10:33 |
mdke | awesome | 10:33 |
Burgundavia | mdke, the quicktour should be finished tomorrow | 10:37 |
mdke | good news | 10:37 |
jsgotangco | nice | 10:38 |
jsgotangco | with images? | 10:38 |
mdke | what are we going to do about translating images? | 10:38 |
jsgotangco | i don't think we have localised screenshots yet | 10:39 |
Burgundavia | jsgotangco, text only for now, images I will do over the next three days (I have them off) | 10:39 |
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jsgotangco | brb our wireless will have to reboot | 10:41 |
mdke | k | 10:41 |
jsgotangco | ill come back later | 10:41 |
jsgotangco | let's discuss further | 10:41 |
mdke | yes | 10:41 |
mdke | Burgundavia, what did you have in mind for localising screenshots? any ideas? | 10:41 |
Burgundavia | mdke, not currently | 10:42 |
mdke | perhaps we can ask a few people with more experience of i18n | 10:42 |
mdke | jordi, translating groups etc | 10:42 |
Burgundavia | ya | 10:42 |
Burgundavia | just pinged jordi | 10:43 |
mdke | ok | 10:44 |
mdke | we had a lot of fun yesterday with the faqguide | 10:44 |
mdke | NOT! | 10:44 |
Burgundavia | oh? | 10:45 |
mdke | see the list | 10:45 |
mdke | some huge problems with the pot | 10:45 |
Madpilot | i18n screenshots basically means re-shotting most of them, I'd think... | 10:46 |
mdke | sure | 10:47 |
Madpilot | re-shooting, even... | 10:47 |
mdke | it's just a question of who does it | 10:47 |
mdke | and where they put them | 10:47 |
mdke | i don't really think we can do them | 10:47 |
mdke | too much time required | 10:47 |
Madpilot | the translator teams are going to have to do them, along with their text translations | 10:48 |
Burgundavia | mdke, oh ya, that | 10:48 |
Madpilot | Burgundavia: just a thought, maybe you should figure out what screenshots you want, and produce a spec sheet for them to go along with the text? | 10:49 |
Burgundavia | Madpilot, the spec would be "duplicate the english screenshot", with instructions for the tricky ones | 10:50 |
Madpilot | Burgundavia: so you're going to produce 'draft' screenshots to go out with the translation packs, and do final ones after whatever relevant late freeze is past? | 10:51 |
Burgundavia | sweet, gnome already has a guide | 10:51 |
Burgundavia | http://live.gnome.org/ReleaseNotes_2fTranslating | 10:51 |
mdke | yeah it should only be necessary for the shots that are not obviously self explanatory | 10:51 |
Burgundavia | Madpilot, I am not worried about translations for the quicktour, to be honest | 10:51 |
Madpilot | fair enough... | 10:52 |
mdke | why? | 10:52 |
Burgundavia | it would be nice, but it is not a mission critical piece of docs | 10:52 |
mdke | i think it would be very nice indeed | 10:52 |
mdke | locoteams can put the doc on their websites | 10:52 |
Burgundavia | it is a marketing doc, nobody is going to not be able to do $foo if it doesn't get translated for release | 10:52 |
mdke | marketing should be done in more languages than english though IMO | 10:53 |
Burgundavia | yes it should, but the primary translating focus should be the faqguide | 10:53 |
mdke | I'm sure the quicktour will not take up a lot of translators time | 10:55 |
mdke | about-ubuntu was translated in about a day for many languages | 10:55 |
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Burgundavia | Madpilot, do you see adds on cbc.ca? | 11:05 |
Burgundavia | s/adds/ads | 11:05 |
Madpilot | nope | 11:10 |
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Madpilot | got an adblocker working in Opera now - it's a bit of a hack, but it's usually cool | 11:11 |
Burgundavia | mdke, you got adblocking enabled? | 11:14 |
Madpilot | Burgundavia: ewww, Dell ads... (just started FF, haven't been to CBC with it yet...) | 11:16 |
Burgundavia | Madpilot, ok, they are still there | 11:16 |
Madpilot | Burgundavia: across the top on the main page; down the right side on article pages, it seems. Ick. | 11:25 |
Burgundavia | I wrote a very strongly worded letter to CBC and the the MP's about it | 11:25 |
Madpilot | ...and the ads remain... ah well. at least when you adblock the top ad, it collapses neatly rather than leaving a blank rectangle... | 11:25 |
Madpilot | anyway, I need sleep. Later, all. | 11:25 |
mdke | Burgundavia, no | 11:46 |
mdke | night Madpilot | 11:46 |
Burgundavia | mdke, never mind | 11:48 |
Burgundavia | mdke, the CBC is undergoing a major labour dispute and has apparently decides ads on its webpage is kosher | 11:48 |
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mdke | :D | 11:49 |
Burgundavia | night all | 12:22 |
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WaterSevenUb | mdke, hey... in what context appears these strings to translate in the FAQ guide? : "Split this FAQ Guide into multiple files to make it easier to edit. Also put this revision history in the correct order." | 02:54 |
WaterSevenUb | mdke, " Align with Unofficial Ubuntu Guide 3.04".... | 02:54 |
WaterSevenUb | those are strings that will not appear to the user right? | 02:54 |
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mdke | WaterSevenUb, correct, they are just revisions | 03:45 |
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jsgotangco | hi | 04:27 |
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jbailey | jsgotangco: hi | 05:02 |
jbailey | jsgotangco: You're up late. =) | 05:03 |
jsgotangco | hey | 05:03 |
jsgotangco | its only 11pm | 05:03 |
jsgotangco | heh | 05:03 |
jsgotangco | i've been busy pimping at linuxworld | 05:03 |
jsgotangco | so i haven't been around that much | 05:03 |
jbailey | linuxworld? | 05:06 |
jbailey | Where's that this year? | 05:06 |
jsgotangco | nahh its the local linux world event | 05:06 |
jsgotangco | we always have a linuxworld here too | 05:06 |
jsgotangco | jbailey: i think its going to be in San francisco next year | 05:06 |
jsgotangco | i have a cool pic i'll post it when i get to scan it later | 05:07 |
jsgotangco | heh | 05:07 |
jbailey | Ah, a bit far to trek to for me. | 05:07 |
jbailey | Although I love the bay area. | 05:07 |
jsgotangco | the linuxworld here is silly though | 05:07 |
jsgotangco | it had microsoft as a major sponsor | 05:07 |
jbailey | !!! =) | 05:08 |
mdke | argh | 05:08 |
mdke | i might put some translations in branches/breezy | 05:08 |
mdke | there are quite a lot of about-ubuntu done already | 05:08 |
jsgotangco | yeah they had 3 booth babes, good thing i got my ubuntu shirt from udu today they were actually giving out pics | 05:08 |
jsgotangco | i have me a pic in my udu shirt with 3 MS booth babes wearing their MS halters | 05:09 |
jsgotangco | mdke: you can probably overwrite the existing ones it is a breezy branch anyways | 05:10 |
mdke | yes i will | 05:10 |
mdke | jbailey, do you fancy seeing if you can get them into the package? | 05:10 |
jsgotangco | i haven't checked the status of about ubuntu in rosetta | 05:11 |
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mdke | it's good | 05:11 |
mdke | loads of languages | 05:11 |
jsgotangco | mdke: how come some still have 1 todo? | 05:13 |
mdke | jsgotangco, because they do | 05:13 |
jsgotangco | wonder what string is that | 05:14 |
jsgotangco | even dutch has 1 todo | 05:14 |
mdke | it varies | 05:14 |
jsgotangco | portugues | 05:14 |
mdke | spanish has left out "translator-credits" | 05:15 |
mdke | pt_BR has left out a large paragraph about gnome | 05:15 |
jsgotangco | w00t we have hebrew now! | 05:15 |
jsgotangco | serbian! romanian! | 05:15 |
mdke | etc | 05:15 |
mdke | yep | 05:15 |
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jjesse | mdke: thanks for fixing the typo i made i kuserguide :) | 05:19 |
mdke | np | 05:20 |
mdke | what country code is fa? | 05:20 |
jsgotangco | fa as language? | 05:21 |
mdke | must be persian | 05:21 |
jsgotangco | farsi | 05:21 |
jsgotangco | most probably | 05:21 |
jbailey | mdke: Sorry, I hadn't noticed this window, lemme scroll back. | 05:22 |
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jbailey | mdke: Sure. How do I get them out of Rosetta? | 05:22 |
jbailey | =) | 05:22 |
jsgotangco | mdke will pull it out and transform it back to xml and commit? | 05:23 |
mdke | jbailey, i'm getting them | 05:23 |
mdke | me me me | 05:23 |
jbailey | w00h00 | 05:23 |
jbailey | I still need to upload ubuntu-docs | 05:23 |
jbailey | Sorry I'm behind on this, guys. | 05:23 |
mdke | np | 05:23 |
jsgotangco | np | 05:23 |
jsgotangco | how about the scrollkeeper bit? | 05:23 |
mdke | i'm going to limit my role to getting them from rosetta and making xml | 05:23 |
jsgotangco | heh | 05:24 |
jsgotangco | ok i can probably do the omf files | 05:24 |
mdke | some of them are there already so you should be able to copy | 05:24 |
jsgotangco | mdke: sure but it'll still be edited/reviewed for correctness in the install path | 05:25 |
jsgotangco | and probably generate a new id | 05:25 |
mdke | shit | 05:26 |
mdke | there is a bug in about-ubuntu.xml still | 05:26 |
jsgotangco | eh? | 05:26 |
mdke | if you open it in yelp, and go to the participate page, the icon that should only be on the first page is at the bottom | 05:26 |
jsgotangco | its like that in hoary | 05:27 |
jsgotangco | i never had the chance to tweak it | 05:27 |
jsgotangco | <caption> should have been there instead | 05:28 |
mdke | can you sort it? | 05:28 |
jsgotangco | well not at this time but its trivial for one doc... | 05:29 |
jsgotangco | let me check the correct syntax for it | 05:29 |
mdke | k | 05:29 |
jsgotangco | we'll probably end up editing the xml for even the translated doc for 1 or 2 lines | 05:29 |
mdke | if you fix it in the original, we'll be ok | 05:35 |
jsgotangco | upload a new pot then? | 05:36 |
jsgotangco | ok gimme till tommorow when you wake up | 05:36 |
highvoltage | i find lots of references on the wiki and site to the ubuntu manifesto, but i can't find the actual manifesto. does anyone have a link for me? | 05:41 |
jsgotangco | now that you mention it... | 05:44 |
highvoltage | now that i mention it? | 05:51 |
jsgotangco | i dont know either... | 05:53 |
mdke | jbailey, ok I've uploaded some xml files for some of the finished translations to the branch | 05:59 |
jbailey | mdke: Cool, thanks! | 05:59 |
jsgotangco | jbailey: you still have that blue highlight in your hair? | 06:00 |
jbailey | jsgotangco: Most of them have fallen out now. I think I have 2 or 3 left. | 06:01 |
jbailey | jsgotangco: I'll be getting them redone in October, probably. | 06:01 |
jsgotangco | heh | 06:01 |
jbailey | Since it was my first set, I didn't know how to take care of them terribly well. I lost 2 in the first two weeks, and a few others shortly after that from general abuse. | 06:02 |
jsgotangco | im thinking of getting something done with my hair it has grown since udu | 06:03 |
jbailey | Nice. | 06:14 |
jbailey | Getting the blue streaks wsa the first time I'd done anything fun with my hair. | 06:15 |
jbailey | I figure it's the end of my quarter-life crisis or so. | 06:15 |
jsgotangco | haha | 06:15 |
mdke | heh | 06:15 |
jsgotangco | good night everyone =) | 06:28 |
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