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Fanskapethmm anyone here running ndiswrapper on a amd64 laptop?12:00
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!christel:*! : Happy 16th birthday to HauntedUnix! He'd be most thrilled if you congratulated him in ##trivia 12:01
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cevizoglu!tell Fanskapet about anyone12:01
Fanskapet:)12:01
SeveasFred|Fr3d,12:01
delirectw: no problem, filing bugs is integral to the development of open source software. that's how and why users are really important in OSS software development.12:01
Seveassup?12:01
erUSULAdmiralSenn: normally cdroms are iso966012:01
AdmiralSennk12:02
Fanskapetstill.. i have enountered a strange problem probably due a kernel update.12:02
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Fred|Fr3dSeveas: added another user to nxserver, but cannot login... you don't remember how we fixed this last time by any chance?12:02
Fanskapetseems like ndiswrapper fetches a ip from my dhcp server but i can't send any data at all.12:02
erUSULAdmiralSenn: mount -t 9660 ... You should do a man mount12:02
Seveassudo nxserver --passwd the_username12:02
AdmiralSennhahahaahaha12:02
AdmiralSennthanks12:02
AdmiralSennwell I knew -t12:02
Fred|Fr3dSeveas: yup done that12:02
AdmiralSennman mount didn't tell me a whole lot12:02
AdmiralSennbut thanks12:02
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SeveasFred|Fr3d, is it a user that can login locally on your system?12:02
Fred|Fr3dSeveas: i ged "server not installed or access disabled", and yes12:02
Fred|Fr3dget*12:03
Seveasthat message usually means you did not do nxserver --passwd12:03
Fred|Fr3dit gets past the authentication bit12:03
SeveasI'm a bit busy now, try to skim through the nxserv log and auth.log for more clues...12:03
Fred|Fr3dok thanks, i will12:04
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LasseLany program that isn't gtkpod that can update an iPod ?12:06
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dw7LasseL: amaroK12:06
cevizogluLasseL, gnupod-tools12:07
blerskhow can i install wxpython 2.6 on ubuntu hoary ?12:07
pestilencewhat does "md: bind<hdb1>" in my dmesg output mean?12:07
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LasseLthanks12:07
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[t0rc] a problem I have. I'm using the ATI xorg drivers, and the control panel for dual-monitor support. I want to change the mode to extended desktop, but everytime I hit apply and/or okay, it says I need to restart X. So I reboot, or log in/log out and then the settings are back to cloning the screens. I didn't download any of the mysql or other database packages, do I need to? or is it something else? is there a way to restart X from a shell? thnx.12:09
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LasseLdw7, do you know which amaroK engine is the best fit for ubuntu (gnome) ?12:10
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apokryphosLasseL: depends on how you use things; a lot of kde users prefer arts, or other optimisations. Default in amaroK is gstreamer, but many tend to use xine, it seems12:12
CookedGryphoncan anybody help me with my laptop's power management? please?12:12
apokryphosLasseL: I tend to generally use xine12:12
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erUSUL[t0rc] : Crtl + Alt + <backspace> or maybe /etc/init.d/gdm restart12:12
SeveasFred|Fr3d, any luck yet?12:12
LasseLgrumble, iPod Shuffle is only supported in the latest release and ubuntu has som prehistoric version :/12:13
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mickskyvitchI have just installed breezy having been using ubuntu for a few months and now have no sound,though the tracks seem to be playing any ideas?12:14
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kevogodmickskyvitch, Is your sound muted?12:14
mickskyvitchno checked that12:14
xomHello,  i cannot suspend to disk or to RAM could be because my laptop does no support these features?12:14
Fred|Fr3dSeveas: i dont think it likes the home directory for my username, so the permissions are screwed. and its owned by me too. i'll move some folders around 2moro.12:15
cevizogluLasseL, why?  are you running warty?12:15
CookedGryphoni'm having trouble with my laptop's powermanagement too12:15
lewizIs there any way I can forcibly start the main installation process manually?  I've bungled together a network install of Breezy but I think a few steps might have been missed out.12:15
mickskyvitchhave checked the obvious I think kevogod12:15
erUSULxom: more likely the linux kernel doesnot support your combination of hardware12:15
Fred|Fr3dSeveas: the home directory for the new user is in my home directory, so it doesnt like that. *12:15
LasseLcevizoglu, hoary, gtkpod is in the mirrormax repo12:16
kevogodmickskyvitch, Go to the terminal and enter "alsamixer"12:16
xomerUSUL thanks, anyways to addreess this problem?12:16
CookedGryphonmickskyvitch, have u tried killall esd, that quite often causes problems12:16
mickskyvitchokay got that kevogod12:17
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nybblehey..12:17
erUSULxom: :( try a diferent kernel maybe 2.6.11 can12:17
xomerUSUL thanks12:17
erUSULxom: in universe12:17
nybbleanyone know much about running a remote X server?12:17
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LasseLnybble, it just works (TM)12:18
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nybblepfft.12:18
nybbleyes, it does.12:18
[t0rc] erUSUL: thnx.12:19
xomthanks erUSUL... will try that12:19
mickskyvitchno good CookedGryphon but ty12:19
[t0rc] are the xfree86 ati drivers better or the xorg ones?12:19
LasseLnybble, I have a ubuntu workstation and a ubuntu server12:19
erUSUL[t0rc] : you are wellcome12:19
nybbleBUT. i would like X to start connected to the remote server, instead of local gdm12:19
nybbleLasseL: i have it working12:19
CookedGryphonmickskyvitch, nvm, start it again with esd -nobeeps12:19
LasseLok, don't know about that12:19
nybbleLasseL: well how do you have it working?12:20
CookedGryphonmickskyvitch, actually jsut esd, tell us if u hear beeps...12:20
LasseLnybble, I run azureus on my fileserver, with the gui showing locally :)12:20
LasseLnybble, spares my desktop a lot of resources12:20
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pestilencehow do i un-associate my hard drive with a raid device?12:21
LasseLssh myserver -X azureus12:21
nybbleLasseL: ah, well I'm doing it because the other compy is underpowered..and my desktop is overpowered...so im just sharing the resources12:21
pestilencei can't mount /dev/hdb1 because md is picking it up on boot....apparently this drive was used as a raid drive in a different machine12:21
pestilencei get "md: bind<hdb1>" in my dmesg output12:22
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AdmiralSenngaaahh12:22
pestilenceand then mount: /dev/hdb1 already mounted ... error12:22
AdmiralSennI had to reboot into..... WINDOWS XP12:22
AdmiralSenndamn 'official nvidia drivers' keep screwing up my system12:22
AdmiralSennevery time I reboot I have to reinstall them12:23
mickskyvitchstill the same CookedGryphon music apparently playing but just a buzz from the speakers,checked all cable and switched speakers12:23
AdmiralSennand now when I go to reinstall them it says it couldn't find the kernel source when it's worked dozens of times before12:23
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AdmiralSennany ideas?12:23
iratsuI have the exact same problem as this one: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/353340 does anyone know of a solution?12:24
CookedGryphonmickskyvitch, do u not get any of the ubuntu login sounds or anything/12:24
mickskyvitchno I didn't all was well untill I installed Breezy12:24
lsuactiafnerAdmiralSenn : uname -a check that the headers in /usr/src/linux/ is the same as the kernel version currently running12:24
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AdmiralSennit should be12:25
Spudchathi everyone12:25
AdmiralSennsince it was working before12:25
neighborleewhere does one get devel priviledges for example to upload .deb's ?12:25
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Spudchati was wondering what the difference between apt-get update and at-get upgrade were12:25
lsuactiafnerneighborlee : look in ubuntu-devel12:25
nybbleupdate will refresh the package list12:25
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[useless] hello guys12:26
nybbleupgrade will actually upgrade packages12:26
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lsuactiafnerSpudchat : upgrade the packages12:26
Spudchatoooo ok...thanks12:26
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neighborleelsuactiafner, ok12:26
cevizogluLasseL, actually, gnupod-tools and gtkpod are both in universe12:26
AdmiralSennis there anything else to try?12:26
Spudchati used upgrade first then update and was wonderin why it found some more packages hehe12:26
lsuactiafnerAdmiralSenn : compile your own kernel, get the source drivers from nvidia and be assuered it will always work12:27
AdmiralSennheh12:27
lsuactiafnerelse depend on apt-get12:27
cevizogluLasseL, and if you're feeling daring, you can try to upgrade those components to the ones in breezy.  but be sure you know what you're doing first12:27
AdmiralSennwell12:27
AdmiralSennI'm using the nvidia run package12:27
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MatrixOwnsYouhi12:27
Lethal-RocksCan I ask a question and get a respone for once?12:28
cevizogluLethal-Rocks, you just did ask a question12:28
nybbleLethal-Rocks: possibly. ask away, i'm listenin'12:28
lsuactiafnerLethal-Rocks : maybe....12:28
MatrixOwnsYouhi12:28
darkheartLethal-Rocks It's too bad you just used your 'once' hehe12:28
[useless] is there any screen reader for ubuntu (or linux OS)?12:28
lewizHow can I make Ubuntu re-run the X config?12:28
nybbleoh!12:28
nybbleOh!12:28
MatrixOwnsYouanyone has experience with rsync?12:28
cevizogluLasseL, I think there's a howto in the ubuntu wikis on doing it, but be very careful12:28
Lethal-RocksI have Ubuntu installed twice. I want to upgrade my other install to breezy, so I chroot into it but I can't connect it to the net12:29
mickskyvitchHousework calls,I'll work on the sound later thanks for your help CookedGryphon12:29
nybblesudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:29
lsuactiafnerapt-config xorgserver12:29
lsuactiafneror something like that12:29
MatrixOwnsYoui want to copy changed files between 2 dirs to a third one12:29
nybblelewiz: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:29
CookedGryphonmickskyvitch, s'ok, not that i did much12:29
AdmiralSennbah I'm going to reboot and try it.... damn drivers12:29
lsuactiafnergreppign for the xommand.12:29
lsuactiafnerLethal-Rocks : a chroot connects to the net, i run firefox in slackware chroot12:30
lsuactiafnerLethal-Rocks : maybe apt-get ect is blocked somehow from using the network?12:30
Spudchatok thanks guys12:30
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nybblelewiz: did that work?12:30
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lsuactiafnerwhilest browsing and irc might still work?12:30
moparfan90hello12:30
CookedGryphonhi12:30
Lethal-Rocksping comes up with unknown host12:31
lsuactiafnerLethal-Rocks : its not a chroot problem, its a network problem.12:31
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Lethal-Rocksrofl @ nybble12:31
lsuactiafnercan you ping from your normal ubuntu?12:31
erUSUL:D12:31
crbQ> say the company has doamin.co.nz12:32
crb10:31 <AlphaQ> I would made12:32
crb10:31 <AlphaQ> make12:32
crb(oops)12:32
Lethal-RocksYeah12:32
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moparfan90Fear of living on     natives getting restless now      Mutiny in the air      got some death to do      Mirror stares back hard     Kill, it's such a friendly word      seems the only way     for reaching out again.12:32
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moparfan90-metallica12:32
Spudchatallright so i lied...one more question12:32
lsuactiafnerstrange, maybe your /etc/resolv.conf is incorrect in the chroot12:32
Lethal-Rockslsuactiafner, nailed it, it is dns12:33
nybblehehe12:33
lewiznybble: Thanks.12:33
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moparfan90!xorg12:33
ubotuxorg is, like, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:33
nybblelewiz: no problem. i frequently hvae to do that...12:33
Spudchatwhy is it that ubuntu only recognizes 885 MBs of ram when i have 2024?12:33
lsuactiafnerSpudchat : free -m12:34
Spudchatlol thats what i did12:34
lsuactiafneroh hmm12:34
erUSULSpudchat: you need to use a kernel with highmem suport if you run 32 bit12:34
lsuactiafnerhymen?12:34
lewiznybble: Yeah, me too.  Just a real pain.  I'm really struggling to get my fonts at 75dpi.  I could use the GNOME font config but I want it set in my xorg.conf.12:34
Spudchatkernel = core of linux right?12:34
apowdist-upgrading to breezy *crosses fingers*12:34
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lsuactiafnerSpudchat : yeh12:34
Spudchathmm what could i use?12:34
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Spudchati have a p4 mobile12:35
lsuactiafnerapow : how much MB you need to download?12:35
nybblelewiz: yes, i prefer setting as much as posible in xorg. since stuff like DPMS doesnt seem to work right on my laptop12:35
floppyearshi does anybody know how to get the cursor blinking in rxvt ?12:35
apowsome 600MB worth of packages i believe12:35
Spudchatoh yeah and it is 32 bit12:35
lsuactiafnerSpudchat : i make my own kernels, no idea what apt kernels are about12:35
Spudchathmmm12:35
lsuactiafnerapow : would be like 1.4G on my pc then12:35
apowwhy?12:36
lsuactiafnergot development tools installed ect12:36
Spudchatok...im gonna try and learn from the web then12:36
apowso do i +_+12:36
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lsuactiafnerapow 850mb of development tools12:36
apowoh12:36
apowwhy that much lol12:36
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nybbleanyone here have an inspiron?12:36
mdzSpudchat: in 5.04, only the -686* and -k7* kernels support more memory; in 5.10 it will work with the default kernel12:37
apowSpudchat: if you install the i686 line of kernels you get highmem support if I'm not mistaken12:37
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apowoops12:37
apowmdz :D12:37
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apow-k7 borked for me though... i had to compile my own12:38
moparfan90http://www.rotorway.com      all visit this site a buy one12:38
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nybblemoparfan90: yoy12:38
lsuactiafnermoparfan90 : go to hell.12:38
moparfan90nybble, whats?12:39
mdzneighborlee: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate#code12:39
moparfan90lsuactiafner, your just jelus12:39
Spudchatok thanks :)12:39
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pestilencedoes anybody know how to keep md from binding to a partition?12:39
lsuactiafnermoparfan90 : and i hope you get ddosed and pwned in general12:39
lsuactiafnerand i'm sure ppl on this server has the means.12:39
nybblemoparfan90: heli kit12:39
lsuactiafnerdont atvertise here.12:39
moparfan90best one :-)12:39
moparfan90im not its not my company12:40
mdzmoparfan90: please stay on topic12:40
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moparfan90sorry12:40
AdmiralSennah, back to good 'ol ubuntu12:40
lsuactiafnerapow : slackware user also, used to compiling my own programs, especially since i prefer critical apps to run @ blazing speeds12:40
moparfan90see if you just ask and not say go to hell then i will12:40
nybblewell, i could build one, and then remote control it with a ubuntu box12:40
nybblehmm12:40
nybblesome relays are needed12:40
AdmiralSennnow12:40
nybbleanyway12:41
AdmiralSennto learn how to compile my own kernel with the nvidia crap preinstalled12:41
erUSULSpudchat: see here http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-09-21.1496455883/view?searchterm=686)12:41
CookedGryphoncan i apt-get source and have it compile automatically? and if i do will it make a noticeable speed difference?12:41
apowlsuactiafner: i haven't seen performance problems with shipped apps for a long time... the most common issue for me is that distros hardly keep up with new versions12:41
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BlueEaglepestilence: What does /proc/mdstat say?12:41
lsuactiafnerapow : same, i cvs mplayer every night.12:42
spanishim using ndiswrapper for my wireless card... its detected and everything but i cant connect to a router12:42
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apowlsuactiafner: i'm not that horny :P12:42
johananyone has trouble with firefox 6412:42
lsuactiafnerthings like gqview, blackbox and firefox i prefer to compile @ -O3 with only features i use12:42
erUSULCookedGryphon: yes in gentoo ;)12:42
lsuactiafnerlol12:42
lsuactiafnerjohan : what trouble/12:43
nybbleok.wtf. why are we in '#ubuntu-unregged'12:43
CookedGryphonerUSUL, yeah thanks 4 that12:43
johanmy firefox is slow and unstable12:43
BlueEagleapow: nybble because you haven't registered?12:43
pestilenceBlueEagle: i rmmod'd md, so it doesn't say anything12:43
johanwill close on website using12:43
BlueEagleapow: sorry about that. :)12:43
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apowwhat do you mean?12:43
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apowlol12:43
nybbleBlueEagle: our nicknames? or what?12:43
lsuactiafnerjohan : my fix is too complicated for you...12:43
johanslow with the tabs12:43
apow[19:43]  [Whois]  apow is an identified user12:43
moparfan90METALLICA12:43
moparfan90#112:43
johanok thanks anyway12:44
spanishfor some reason i did it in breezy and it works but in hoary its broken12:44
pestilenceBlueEagle: i don't have any raid, but md hijacks a partition on boot...i could blacklist md, but that doesn't seem like the right solution12:44
apowhere is my id card mister.12:44
neighborleemdz, np I found through hunting ;-)..thx...12:44
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lsuactiafnerbut i made a slackware 32bit chroot to run firefox binaries from mozilla in.. incase you have any idea what that means.12:44
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pestilenceBlueEagle: the drive was a part of a RAID5 previously...12:44
BlueEaglepestilence: Do you have a raidtab?12:44
pestilencebut i have since repartioned...but md wants to bind to it anyways12:44
pestilenceBlueEagle: nope12:44
nybbleinteresting12:44
johani dont know much12:44
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pestilenceBlueEagle: but, i get this on boot:  md: bind<hdb1>12:45
lsuactiafnerbleh night all12:45
lsuactiafnerThu Sep 15 00:44:28 SAST 200512:45
CookedGryphonwhat kernel version does breezy have?12:45
pestilenceBlueEagle: what do i do to prevent this from happening12:45
nybble2.6.12.?12:45
BlueEaglepestilence: Most peculiar. What does fdisk -l <device> say about the partition?12:45
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pestilenceBlueEagle: it says it's fine.  i can mount it just fine after i rmmod md12:45
nybbleCookedGryphon: 2.6.12-8-12:45
CookedGryphonnybble, ta. anyone know if that has beter acpi support?12:45
nybbleuhm12:46
CookedGryphonbetter*12:46
nybbleive yet to test.. i hear it does..12:46
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: does he have to re-install or would it be enough to modprobe it (or even add nvidia to /etc/modules)?12:46
pestilenceBlueEagle: i believe when you set up a raid, there is a superblock written to that needs to be overwritten, but i don't know how to do that.12:46
P0S3Rhei all12:46
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nybbleCookedGryphon: i'm running it on my laptop12:46
AdmiralSennI don't know, but each time if I fail to reinstall it sound doesn't work12:46
CookedGryphoncos i'm still on hoary and i can just about get a reading for battery level but that's it12:46
nybbleCookedGryphon: what laptop are you using?12:46
AdmiralSennand anything requiring openGL doesn't work either12:46
Aloshi, does anybody have seen this error12:46
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BlueEaglepestilence: mk*fs should overwrite that superblock.12:46
CookedGryphonIPC Powernote A53512:46
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AlosError activating XKB configuration12:46
nybblehmmm.12:47
CookedGryphonnybble, its got an amd mobile athlon 412:47
CookedGryphonwhich ubuntu says is known to not support cpu frequency scaling12:47
Will^Dravenis there a way i can download the ubunu install iso to my home partition and install from there?12:47
pestilenceBlueEagle: but, it didn't12:47
pestilenceBlueEagle: i ran mkreiserfs on it.12:47
nybbleCookedGryphon: hmm. that is odd12:48
apokryphosWill^Draven: there's many ways to install (you can even install from just windows). See...12:48
apokryphosubotu: tell Will^Draven about install12:48
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nybbleCookedGryphon: i dont have much exp. with mobile athlons, i'm a centrino kinda guy12:48
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Will^Draventhanks12:48
CookedGryphonnybble, and the fan is always running at full so its really noisy and also get quite warm, n the battery lasts for like an hour, cos the screen's always full brightness etc.12:48
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moroWhere can I found kernel 2.6.12 in breezy?12:48
AdmiralSennBlueEagle: nvidia is already in /etc/modules12:48
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apokryphosmoro: in the repositories. It should be installed when you upgrade12:49
BlueEaglepestilence: what does /etc/init.d/mdadm-raid status tell you?12:49
nybbleCookedGryphon: well, i can adjust my brightness with hotkeys... like Fn-Up or Fn-Down...12:49
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: make that /etc/init.d/mdadm-raid stop12:49
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pestilenceBlueEagle: mdadm: /dev/md0 assembled from 1 drive - not enough to start the array.12:49
nybbleCookedGryphon: out of the box i get like 2-3 hours.. and my fans are always running too12:49
AdmiralSennerm?12:50
AdmiralSennthat's pestilence you want, not me12:50
BlueEaglepestilence: Well, mdadm-raid should really not be started anymore.12:50
moroapokryphos, I think but there isn't...12:50
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: Sorry. :)12:50
spanishmy wireless card is installed using ndiswrapper but i cant connect to any routers12:50
CookedGryphonnybble, maybe my battery's jsut screwed then12:50
spanishim using hoary12:50
pestilenceBlueEagle: i guess that is one solution.  but it seems the correct solution is getting whatever flag is set on the drive to "raid" set to "not raid"12:50
apokryphos!info linux-386 breezy12:51
ubotulinux-386: (Complete Linux kernel on 386.), section restricted/base, is optional. Version: 2.6.12.12 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB12:51
apokryphosmoro: it's there12:51
nybbleCookedGryphon: might be, have you optimized any options in the bios?12:51
CookedGryphonnybble, there don't seem to be any power saving options in the bios12:51
Aloshi, does anybody have seen this error:Error activating XKB configuration12:51
CookedGryphoni have said use optimal settings12:51
CookedGryphonbut there dunt seem to b much to set12:51
moroapokryphos, where i put main restricted and universe but there isn't...12:52
CookedGryphonjstu the graphics mem share12:52
nybbleCookedGryphon: hmm12:52
CookedGryphonand hdds n stuff12:52
apokryphosmoro: are you sure you're running breezy? What does cat /etc/issue give?12:52
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[t0rc] anyone using ati control panel?12:52
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buddyi'm looking for a site that has tutorials on how to network ubutu/linux machines12:52
BlueEaglepestilence: did you try dpgk-reconfigure mdadm ?12:53
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mkyb14sdfsd12:53
moroapokryphos, I'm not rynning breezy but I want to dist-upgrade to it! I already change the responsity...12:53
lewiznybble: Is it possible to make Ubuntu automatically reconfigure the xorg.conf file, as it did at installtime?  i.e. not use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?12:53
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nybbleCookedGryphon: I would try breezy. But if you can wait, wawit. since there are updates almost daily12:53
AdmiralSennhmm12:53
CookedGryphonnybble, also i think it might be overheating or something cos once it jstu froze completely and i had to reset12:54
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apokryphosmoro: oh, so you're trying to upgrade to breezy now?12:54
nybblelewiz: i dont think so...its easy enough to run the wizard12:54
CookedGryphonnybble, i'll wait til i get breezy, which will b at uni, cos it would take a while over my 2kb/s connection12:54
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: What happens when you reboot?12:54
CookedGryphonit was hell getting ubuntu in the first place lol,. 6 days of downlaoding12:54
nybbleCookedGryphon: yea, recommended.12:54
AdmiralSennBlueEagle: when I reboot anything requiring openGL is borked12:54
AdmiralSennxmms won't start, blender won't start, basically nothing starts12:54
moroapokryphos, yes but I wan't the 2.6.12 kernel12:55
AdmiralSennreinstalling the drivers fixes it12:55
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: what does glxinfo|grep OpenGL tell you before you re-install nvidia-glx?12:55
apokryphosmoro: upgrade and you'll get it12:55
apokryphosubotu: tell moro about upgrade2breezy12:55
CookedGryphonnybble, also, it was quite good at 3d in windows, but i dunno if the drivers are supported in linux and 3d is sloooow12:55
AdmiralSennBlueEagle: uhhh I'm not using the ubuntu packace12:55
mkyb14can someone help me with a video card problem? on resloution12:55
CookedGryphongot the winmodem sorted tho12:55
Spudchatok thanks for the link...so that command should do the trick?12:55
AdmiralSennBlueEagle: I'm using nvidia's official linux package12:55
Spudchatwell ill find out :)12:55
nybbleCookedGryphon: what card do you have?12:56
erUSULAdmiralSenn: then you should contact nvidia for support :P ;)12:56
AdmiralSenngreat12:56
AdmiralSennnow to see if I can fit ut2k4 on my drive12:56
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CookedGryphonnybble, i think its an SiS onboard one12:57
mkyb14anyone?12:57
Will^Dravenhmm, the wiki dosent really cover what im looking to do, im running slackware 10.1, and want to change over to ubuntu, but i dont have any blank cds, and am too impatient to wait for shipit, so i'd like to download the iso to my /home partition and install from there, leaving the data on my home partition intact if possible12:57
moroapokryphos, I change the responsity I run apt-get update and I don't have kernel 2.6.1212:57
popeyAdmiralSenn: i had *exactly* the same problem as you12:57
AdmiralSennpopey: oh good... how'd ya fix it?12:57
nybbleCookedGryphon: ah, well it probably had good DirectX support, but horrible OpenGL support12:57
popeyAdmiralSenn: i used to use the binary drivers from nvidia.com. now I dont. I use the packaged nvidia-glx driver12:57
AdmiralSenn>_<12:57
AdmiralSenndammit12:57
popeyand it works 100%12:57
apokryphosmoro: you changed the repo and did: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?12:58
AdmiralSennbah12:58
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popeyAdmiralSenn: also.. on my gorgeous new laptop :D http://popey.com/gallery/Nokia/Image40312:58
CookedGryphonnybble, that's all well and good, but surely i can speed it up a bit, its got 128 mb vidoe ram and can only get 140fps in glxgears for chrissake12:58
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: Well, what does glxinfo|grep OpenGL tell you when you reboot?12:58
AdmiralSennBlueEagle: I don't know..... I've never done that12:58
CookedGryphoni think it has a seperate graphics processor12:58
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Spudchatso i installed the kernel...now reboot for the changes to take effect?12:58
mkyb14anyone here know about setting pu graphic cards ?12:58
nybbleCookedGryphon: hmm, unusual amount of VRAM for an onboard... shared isnt it?12:58
AdmiralSennI had to reboot into a separate kernel for it to reinstall12:58
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: Well it would be a good idea to check which glx-driver is installed when it's causing your troubles. :)12:59
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BlueEagles/installed/started/12:59
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CookedGryphonnybble, yeah, i can set it anywhere from 32mb -> 12812:59
moroapokryphos, not yet apt-get dist-upgrade because I see the kernel is 2.6.1112:59
seliniumhi all, any wine users about? I am looking to install IE as i need to test websites on cr@ppy browsers12:59
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AdmiralSennI know very little about linux commands, really12:59
erUSULSpudchat: yes you need to boot the other kernel12:59
Will^Draven:-\12:59
popeyAdmiralSenn: I'd seriously recommend using the ubuntu packaged nvidia-glx driver. it saved me from throwing my pc out the window12:59
CookedGryphonnybble, it has 256mb overall, so i set the win share to 8mb and the shared video ram to 32mb12:59
Spudchatwill it boot by default or do i need to make a change somewhere?12:59
apokryphosmoro: I just showed you that it's not12:59
mkyb14anyone here know about setting pu graphic cards ?01:00
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Spudchatsorry im still a n00b01:00
nybblepopey: Its the model down from mine.. I have the 930001:00
CookedGryphonmkyb14, depends on the graphics card01:00
popey9300?01:00
mkyb14Vision Tek NV996.001:00
mkyb1432mb01:00
erUSULmkyb14: pu?? graphic01:00
nybblepopey: inspiron 930001:00
mkyb14up01:00
popeynybble: this is an xps gen 201:00
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nybblesweet01:01
cr4sh_xphey guyz01:01
popey:D01:01
Spudchatthats the machine im using popeye01:01
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popeyit runs absolutely perfectly :)01:01
nybblepopey: mine looks exactly the same, but its got a 17in screen and white trim01:01
Spudchathell yeah01:01
popeythis is 17" 1920x120001:01
cr4sh_xpcan anyone tell me, how come not all aded software in my Applicayion menu is visible?????01:01
nybblesweeeeeet01:01
popeyweighs a tonne :D01:01
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nybblewhats with the glowing blue?01:02
darkheartcr4sh_xp Try typing 'killall gnome-panel' to restart your menu.01:02
popeyconfigurable coloured LEDs01:02
naliothcr4sh_xp: some of it is console only (not a gui app)01:02
nybble!01:02
ubotunybble: Did you get hit by a windmill?01:02
nybbleFFS01:02
popeyin the bios01:02
BlueEaglecr4sh_xp: Not all software makes entries in the gnome menu.01:02
mkyb14?01:02
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nybbleI should have gotten it!01:02
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popeyit's nutty01:02
nybbleubotu: a windmill? perhaps!01:02
ubotunybble: No idea01:02
cr4sh_xpyea tryed that already.. no but if i go to Edit Menu the software is there but is not visible01:02
popeyI'd love to see if it's possible to confugure it in linux01:02
popeyhave the LEDs change colour through the day or something01:02
popeyor go red when it's at high CPU :D01:02
mkyb14it's "Vision Tek NV996.0 Gateway Part #6001674 "01:02
nybblepopey: possibly.. maybe with i8k?01:02
Nikopolpopey, I hope that day never comes ;)01:02
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popeyheheh01:03
popeyooo i8k01:03
popeynever thought of that01:03
popeyhad a poke about with acpi01:03
Nikopolyou messed around witht he bios popey ?01:03
mkyb14anyone01:03
popeynothing there01:03
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moroapokryphos, ok sorry but if I do apt-cache search kernel 2.6.12 I see it but if I use synaptic I don't see it... thanks by01:03
popeynot yet01:03
BlueEaglecr4sh_xp: Which piece of software are we talking about?01:03
mik3Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting. <--i get this when i run nvu, i can't find any relivant posts on google or nvu's home page, any suggestions?01:03
nybblepopey: well i8k doesnt work with mine01:03
popey:(01:04
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cr4sh_xpfor example >Applications>Accesories>Virus Scan is vislble in Edit Menu but not in the Menu!! L:D01:04
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AdmiralSennoh well01:04
AdmiralSennthanks anyway guys01:04
dooglusdoes anyone know how to clear evolution's cache?01:04
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nybblei love this laptop!01:04
ubuntuhola alguien me dice como puedo ver la configuracion de las x en un cd?!?! un live cd digo01:04
popeyditto01:04
BlueEaglecr4sh_xp: Which application does "Virus Scan" start?01:05
Mago_de_Ozconfiguracion de que??01:05
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cr4sh_xpaegis-virus-scanner01:05
BlueEagle...and wasn't the name of the menueditor smeg?01:05
luihello01:05
naliothdooglus: do you have a ~/.evolution?01:05
nybbleubotu: what windmill?01:05
ubotunybble: Bugger all, i dunno01:05
nybbleubotu: *ish scared*01:05
ubotunybble: Do they come in packets of five?01:05
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nybbleubotu: the windmills? i beleive01:06
ubotunybble: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?01:06
nybbleubotu: yes, it tis01:06
ubotunybble: Do they come in packets of five?01:06
nybbleubotu: and yes, they do01:06
ubotuNot a clue, nybble01:06
cr4sh_xpBlueEagle:aegis-virus-scanner si the software that it runs01:06
cevizoglunybble: feel free to private message ubotu all you wish01:06
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cevizoglunybble: but don't do it here01:06
nybblelol01:07
Spudchatallright it worked01:07
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nybblestupid me01:07
nybblelol01:07
Spudchatbut it made my fonts all tiny01:07
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Spudchatbut it sees all my ram :)01:07
nybbleahoy, nalioth01:07
mkyb14anyone know how to install a nvidia graphics card drivers....?01:07
mkyb14the wiki isn't helping01:07
BlueEaglecr4sh_xp: and which menu editor are you using?01:07
naliothnybble: howdy01:08
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CookedGryphoni don't use a menu editor, its easy enough to edit the .desktop filels manually01:08
nybblenalioth: not a bot, right?01:08
naliothnybble: who? me?01:08
cr4sh_xpBlueEagle: not sure I'm in gnome jsut right click on the Application button the chose Edit01:08
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nybblenalioth: right01:09
BlueEaglecr4sh_xp: downloading and installign aegis now01:09
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nybblenalioth: scared me01:09
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cr4sh_xpBlueEagle: Ok01:09
Will^Dravenhah! i found a cdrw i can use to burn the install media01:09
BlueEaglecr4sh_xp: When I right-click menu folders nothing appears to happen.01:10
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cr4sh_xpclick on Accessories: thats wher it is!01:11
nybbleanyway, i'm off for a while01:11
nybblebbl01:11
BlueEaglecr4sh_xp: You running hoary or breezy?01:11
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cr4sh_xpnot sure how do i check ??01:12
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BlueEaglecr4sh_xp: /etc/issue I guess01:12
apowok01:12
apowdist-upgraded successfully it seems01:12
apowi'll reboot and test it01:12
apow:D01:12
naliothcr4sh_xp: open a terminal and type "uname -a"01:12
apowbrb i hope :)01:12
naliothapow: have an install cd handy?01:12
cr4sh_xpbrezze01:13
cr4sh_xpbreezy!01:13
apowuh yes i think01:13
apowwhy? :D01:13
apowsomething i should know? :P01:13
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naliothapow: never know when you'll need one to get your arse out of a crack (like me when i upgraded to breezy)01:13
apowwhat happened?01:14
naliothapow: i run PPC and when i rebooted from an apparent clean dist-upgrade, it had not quite completed01:14
apowwow i just upgraded and now there are five new packages01:14
apowupgrading again01:14
apowoooh i see01:14
naliothapow: i had a terminal. no network, no X, nothing but an install CD01:14
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apow:(01:15
BlueEaglecr4sh_xp: Might be some packages that escaped me. Installed from a borked CD, so I had to install the server system and go from there. :)01:15
apowlets see if I'll need mine, wish me luck :D01:15
cr4sh_xpso what do i Do01:17
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windmillgood evening all01:19
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CookedGryphongood evening01:19
windmillHi I am after some help ;)01:19
CodeusWell so first I was on the install cd for 5.10, and it would not let me resize my NTFS partition, so then I used the livecd hoping that I could just load up gparted to resize the NTFS partition, but when I loaded up gparted the system froze up!01:19
CookedGryphonoh no wait, its morning for me now01:19
Codeushow should I go about resizing ntfs!01:19
windmillwell yeah it's morning for me too :D01:20
funkyHatCodeus, use the install CD for 5.0401:20
naliothCodeus: in the install cd, hit "ctrl-alt-f3" for a new login and use regular parted01:20
windmillbut who can be bothered to keep track of time01:20
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funkyHat5.10 is only a preview release01:20
cevizogluCodeus: you've made a backup, right?01:20
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naliothCodeus: read up on parted before use and *disclaimer: back up all the data you want to keep b4 doing any disc operations*01:20
CookedGryphoni'm worried bout upgrading cos i'm jstu gna have one chance and if it screw up then i'm back to windows01:21
Codeusyes, yes, I backed up all data and whatnot, I just want to resize a friggin NTFS partition01:21
tepus6is the wma codec for xmms in synaptic? if so whats it called?01:21
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windmillI wanted to ask about the Go Open programs from the shuttleworth foundation, any one watched them?01:21
dooglusthe help in breezy still says "quick tour of 5.04 hoary hedgehog".  any idea what package I should report that against?01:21
funkyHattepus6, no, it's not in any of the official ubuntu repositories. you can get the package though. google for xmms-wma01:21
tepus6k thanks01:21
dooglusCodeus: I used http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html to resize my NTFS partition.  worked a treat.01:21
naliothtepus6: download the codecs at www.mplayerhq.hu on the downloads page01:22
naliothfunkyHat: see what i just wrote to tepus601:22
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funkyHatnalioth, read. :)01:23
BlueEaglecr4sh_xp: check to see if you can find it in /usr/share/applications01:23
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windmillcan I ask why my mplayer won't play back mpeg4 video with AAC sound?01:23
AdmiralSennBlueEagle: hey01:23
windmillit'll do the video01:23
AdmiralSennwhat's the command you gave me earlier? glx something|grep OpenGL?01:23
windmillbut not sound01:23
cevizogluwindmill: I thought aac is apple's audio compression format01:23
naliothwindmill: have you installed your mp4 libraries?01:23
mkyb14ok anyone know how to make it so that i can edit files say for /var/www ..... i'm a sudoer and it won't let me make a index.html file!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!01:23
Seveaswindmill, you might need w32codecs01:23
naliothcevizoglu: it's also a video codec01:24
Seveasmkyb14, screaming won't help...01:24
erUSULAdmiralSenn: glxinfo01:24
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AdmiralSennthanks01:24
cevizoglunalioth, ic01:24
mkyb14not screaming, just me caressing hte irc channel01:24
apokryphosmkyb14: excessive exclamation-marks/punctuation is seriously unnecessary01:24
windmillcevizoglu, I thought so too01:24
AdmiralSennnothing happened!01:24
windmillnalioth, I think I already have them installed01:24
Seveasmkyb14, as your normal user: sudo chown -R $USER:USER /var/www01:24
AdmiralSennO_o01:24
naliothcevizoglu: sometimes called h26401:24
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: glxinfo|grep OpenGL01:24
Seveasthat will make you owner of all files in there01:24
AdmiralSennrunning just glxinfo segfaults01:24
windmillSeveas, the video plays back fine but with no sound01:24
net_benjocan somebody please help me with setting up wireless using WEP encryption01:25
AdmiralSennBlueEagle: it doesn't display anything01:25
mkyb14why would i have to do suck a command if i'm a sudoer.... shouldn't i have access to write to these folders reguardless01:25
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BlueEagleadmiralsenn: And if you prefix every line you write to me I might read them faster. Also don't use enter instead of punctuation marks.01:25
AdmiralSennsorrt01:25
AdmiralSenn*sorry01:25
windmillcevizoglu, nalioth, Seveas I wanted to play this : http://www.go-opensource.org/go_open/news/download_go_open/01:25
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: are you loading glx in xorg.conf?01:25
AdmiralSennnot used to fast IRC channels01:25
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Seveasmkyb14, only with sudo...01:25
windmillyou would think it would be encoded in an open format01:25
AdmiralSennBlueEagle: good question01:25
naliothwindmill: do you have all your repos enabled?01:26
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep glx01:26
mkyb14so it's  sudo chown -R $mkyb14:USER /var/www01:26
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windmillnal yes01:26
kewlmanhi everyone!01:26
mkyb14? if i do it as user user it says sudo : cannot get working directory01:26
net_benjohi guys, I need help restoring my wireless to work like out of the box...is there a way to do that??01:26
windmillnalioth, what packages should I have installed?01:26
AdmiralSennBlueEagle: load "glx" is in there01:26
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naliothwindmill: look for mp4 in synaptic01:27
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Seveaschanserv messages tend to get lost here :S01:27
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep glx01:27
AdmiralSennno such file or dir01:27
kewlmanhow do i erase the configuration file for gnomemeeting? i keep getting a "program ended unexpectedly error when i start it" want to erase the config file and start from scratch01:28
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: no /var/log/Xorg.0.log?01:28
AdmiralSennBlueEagle: it shows it in the directory.. let me try it again01:28
AdmiralSennBlueEagle: (II) LoadModule: "glx"01:28
AdmiralSenn(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so01:28
AdmiralSenn(II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"01:28
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: that's .ZERO. not .OH.01:28
AdmiralSennI know how to spell it...01:28
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BlueEagleadmiralsenn: ...so it sais that it's loading but it's not loading anyways... :/01:29
mkyb14ok now when i try and access the file it says that i don't have access to /var/www   ....what just happened01:29
AdmiralSennforgot a /01:29
erUSULkewlman: ~/.gnome2/gnomemeeting01:29
naliothwindmill: also look for aac01:29
AdmiralSennBlueEagle: yeah... something's gone wrong here01:29
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: does /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so appear to be sane (ie. permissions set right and so on)?01:29
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AdmiralSennBlueEagle: I don't know.. how would I check?01:30
net_benjocan anybody help me recover my wireless settings to what are out of the box01:30
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AdmiralSennand yes I know I'm a frustrating user01:30
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wyvernmonarch7[4294671.255000]  ohci_hcd 0000:00:1c.2: Unlink after no-IRQ? Controller is probabl using the wrong IRQ.01:30
mkyb14seavas: that command made it so that now my browwer can't see the page01:30
wyvernmonarch7thats what i get when i try to install ubuntu01:30
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djm62net_benjo: iwconfig ethX essid any01:30
mkyb14Seveas:01:30
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: also how does ls -l /dev/nvidia* appear to have their permissions set?01:30
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djm62net_benjo: where X is whatever your wireless card is... 0, 1, 201:31
bobbydhi01:31
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BlueEagleadmiralsenn: how about cat /etc/group/video shows your username?01:31
net_benjodjm62:  sorry i didn't understand that01:31
BlueEagles/how about/does/01:31
djm62net_benjo: what's changed since it was working?01:31
Seveasmkyb14, chmod -R a+r /var/www01:31
bobbydwhat's the name of the tool that lets you install something compiled from source as a .deb? You use it like: "tool make install".01:31
AdmiralSennBlueEagle: crw-rw-rw-  1 root root 195,   0 2005-09-14 19:22 /dev/nvidia0 and crw-rw-rw-  1 root root 195, 255 2005-09-14 19:22 /dev/nvidiactl01:32
Seveasbobbyd, checkinstall01:32
Spudchathi everyone...something went wrong with the way my system looks....everything looks much smaller now01:32
bobbydSeveas, thanks :)01:32
Spudchatany suggestions?01:32
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mkyb14cannot get working directory "01:32
AdmiralSennBlueEagle: and cat /etc/group/video says it's not a directory01:32
bobbydSpudchat, move closer to the monitor01:32
cevizogluSpudchat: change your screen resolution to a lesser number?01:32
bipolardoes breezy have support for dropshaddows and such in X?01:32
Spudchatlol01:32
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: Those permissions should allow all to use the video device regardless of group. It should (in my opinion be) crw-rw---- root video01:32
Spudchatthen it doesnt fill the screen01:32
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net_benjodjm62: ok..i was trying to set up WPA encryption..so I followed some directions from ubuntu forums...but I got stuck half way doing that....now my WPA doesnt work..but neither does WEP01:32
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BlueEagleadmiralsenn: cat /etc/group|grep video01:33
Spudchatare there any other settings that can affect that? like dpi?01:33
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: get your /-s and |-s right. :)01:33
djm62!wep01:33
ubotusomebody said wep was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/helpcenterfaq.2004-10-07.003150731501:33
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: oh, my bad. I mis-spelt it :)01:33
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AdmiralSennyes.. I noticed...01:33
mkyb14???01:33
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apowi live.01:33
AdmiralSennBlueEagle: video:x:44:adam01:33
mkyb14seveas that didn't work01:33
djm62net_benjo: is the link from ubotu what you've been doing?01:34
djm62to get wep01:34
sockpuppe1anyone have the intel i915 grafix chip01:34
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: Well, since your /dev/nvidia* are root:root it doesn't really matter. Have you tried installing the ubuntu packaged glx drivers before installing the custon glx-drivers?01:34
popeyAdmiralSenn: have you reverted to the ubuntu package for nvidia yet?01:34
BlueEaglecustom*01:34
wyvernmonarch7does ubuntu 32 bit work on amd 64?01:34
AdmiralSennpopey and BlueEagle, no I haven't, but I haven't heard of anyone else having this problem01:35
popeyi have01:35
BlueEaglewyvernmonarch7: short answer: no. Long answer: yes, but it requires a spesific setup.01:35
popeyi had exactly this problem01:35
SuperQwyvernmonarch7: if you mean does ubnutu x86 work on opteron/athlon64, yes01:35
popeyseriously01:35
AdmiralSennthere was some reason I'm using the nvidia problem01:35
popeyuse the nvidia-glx package01:35
wyvernmonarch7yes thats what i mean01:35
AdmiralSennpopey: besides you :P01:35
wyvernmonarch7i dl the x86 ubuntu for amd 64 system01:35
popeyhow many people do you need to convince you?01:35
popeyexactly?01:35
SuperQwyvernmonarch7: yes.. that will work just fine01:35
wyvernmonarch7cuz ppl told me there wasnt a real advantage to the 64 one01:35
popeyi had been having this problem for some time, and I'm no beginner01:35
wyvernmonarch7[4294671.255000]  ohci_hcd 0000:00:1c.2: Unlink after no-IRQ? Controller is probabl using the wrong IRQ.01:35
wyvernmonarch7thats what i get when i try to install01:35
sockpuppe1i have the intel i915 grafix card and my opengl games suck01:35
net_benjodjm62: NO this link is something different..but it looks like it might help me...I was following another thread which was about settinp up WPA wireless..but i'll look at this link now...01:35
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: Well, using the ubuntu package might set up something that you and I might have over-looked and make the upgrade work.01:36
sockpuppe1anyone know why01:36
naliothwyvernmonarch7: you'll get more use out of a x86 kernel on your box01:36
AdmiralSennpopey: I believe you... for crying out loud01:36
SuperQwyvernmonarch7: hrmmm.. sounds like a hardware support problem01:36
popeyso why not just fix it then?01:36
AdmiralSennBlueEagle: so just reinstall the ubuntu package and then try it again?01:36
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: but the fact that glxinfo doesn't show any glx drivers at all worries me. Especially since there's no entry in the error log of the x-server about glx failing.01:36
wyvernmonarch7the only linux i can \get to work is redhatenterprise 501:36
wyvernmonarch7501:36
wyvernmonarch74301:36
SuperQwyvernmonarch7: are you using 05.04?01:36
wyvernmonarch74 i mean01:36
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BlueEagleadmiralsenn: That might fix it.01:36
AdmiralSennokay01:36
popeyget nvidia-glx and the linux-restricted packagefor your kernel01:36
AdmiralSennuh oh01:37
wyvernmonarch7all i have installed is windiows xp pro01:37
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popeyi now have two machines running side by side like this01:37
sockpuppe1can anyone help01:37
sockpuppe1???01:37
SuperQwyvernmonarch7: which ubuntu release are you trying?01:37
AdmiralSennnvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-dev are already installed01:37
wyvernmonarch7the latest01:37
AdmiralSenn>_<01:37
wyvernmonarch7i just dl it01:37
konenghow do i access network shares on my school's network?01:37
AdmiralSennthis is probably my problem01:37
wyvernmonarch71 hour ago01:37
popeyAdmiralSenn: doesn't mean you're using them01:37
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popeyAdmiralSenn: that's what i had01:37
SuperQwyvernmonarch7: yes.. "the latest" as in the preview?01:37
popeyAdmiralSenn: I'd remove them and reinstall them01:37
AdmiralSennokay01:37
wyvernmonarch7lemme see01:38
konengi know the IP address of the computer that I want to access, but I just dont know how to do it01:38
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: Which version is your custom nvidia-glx driver btw?01:38
wyvernmonarch7http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso01:38
wyvernmonarch75.101:38
SuperQwyvernmonarch7: yea.. that's the preview01:38
AdmiralSennBlueEagle: custom? I'm using the nvidia official driver, and it's 1.0-766701:38
SuperQwyvernmonarch7: well.. 5.1001:38
SuperQwyvernmonarch7: (year.month)01:38
wyvernmonarch7so01:38
wyvernmonarch7ok01:38
wyvernmonarch7well01:38
DaMi3ni have a problem with running java applets in ubuntu. when evr i run an applet it crashes01:38
DaMi3nProblematic frame:01:38
DaMi3n# C  [libfontmanager.so+0x34ada] 01:38
wyvernmonarch7why the fuckf do they have that there01:38
DaMi3nis there a solutio to this01:39
wyvernmonarch7so i have to dl another kind01:39
cevizogluwyvernmonarch7, try hoary01:39
BlueEagleadmiralsenn: It's not an ubuntu package, hence it's custom.01:39
BlueEagleor thus01:39
d2dchathey i just got a bunch of update notices in my update list01:39
cevizogluwyvernmonarch7, all OS vendors hand out prereleases01:39
AdmiralSennwell, now to reboot... again01:39
d2dchatis this because ubuntu has come out with 5.10 now?01:39
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net_benjodjm62: when I type:  iwconfig eth0   I get the following:  no wirless extension01:40
SuperQ5.10 is not out yet01:40
SuperQit's a beta preview01:40
wyvernmonarch7omg01:40
wyvernmonarch7so its not supposed to work01:40
d2dchatah, then why do i have all this ne wsutff to update?01:40
wyvernmonarch7?01:40
SuperQwyvernmonarch7: it's _supposed_ to work01:40
d2dchatshould i update it all?01:40
SuperQwyvernmonarch7: but in your case, it's not ;)01:40
SuperQwyvernmonarch7: it sounds like you have a very new system01:40
DaMi3ni have a problem with running java applets in ubuntu. when evr i run an applet it crashes Problematic frame: # C  [libfontmanager.so+0x34ada] . is there a solution to this?01:40
wyvernmonarch7yes i do01:40
SuperQwyvernmonarch7: can you tell me what motherboard you have?01:41
cevizogluwyvernmonarch7, apple handed out their last pre-release eight months before ship date, when it was still kernel panicking on an hourly basis01:41
BlueEagleAnyone know where nVidia keep the changelogs for their drivers?01:41
d2dchatlike, xserver and all that junk went from 6.8.2 to 10.101:41
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d2dchatand apache upgraded01:41
wyvernmonarch7http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681315303101:41
SuperQwyvernmonarch7: awsome.. thanks01:41
SuperQwyvernmonarch7: one sec01:41
wyvernmonarch7sure01:41
djm62net_benjo: what if you just type iwconfig01:41
d2dchatactually i was wrong about the versions but all this stuff has a new version, is it safe to upgrade?01:41
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net_benjoi get no wirless extension on all 3:  lo , eth0, eth101:42
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djm62oh bugger01:42
d2dchatwill it break my distro to upgrade after i changed the universe settings or whatever01:42
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net_benjolol01:42
net_benjoi knew I messed it up good..01:43
djm62net_benjo: can you link me to the page with the instructions you were following?01:43
apowanyone here on breezy and has a nvidia video card?01:43
net_benjodjm62: yeah..i think so ..give me a sec01:43
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novatuxhi01:43
novatuxwhen ubuntu breezy is freezed?01:44
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ashcraftwireless cards should show up under wlan0...atleast   mine does01:44
Zodiachello all01:44
ZodiacDVD question...01:44
net_benjodjm62:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623&highlight=wpa01:44
crbZodiac: the answer is 'multiple angles'01:44
DaMi3ni have a problem with running java applets in ubuntu. when evr i run an applet it crashes with the message Problematic frame: # C  [libfontmanager.so+0x34ada] . is there a solution to this?01:44
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ZodiacI am getting the libdvdcss2 error message even though I have it installed01:45
ZodiacI am running breezy what is the dillio?01:45
ryanarphi01:45
ZodiacOh, and DMA is enabled01:45
konenghow would i access shared files from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ip (computer on my local network)?01:45
ZodiacTotem Xine01:45
ZodiacAny idears?01:45
SuperQkoneng: what is the other computer?01:45
ryanarpthis is my problem ubuntu installs great except at the login screen the sound plays video is great but after a while it locks up01:46
net_benjodjm62:  did you see the page? i can tell you how far I've done01:46
Quinthiuskoneng: open up nautilus and go to smb://ip-address/ i think01:46
djm62I'm reading it now...might not be too bad01:46
ryanarpi can never make it to the kde desktop environment01:46
net_benjook...just have this in mind...01:46
SuperQwyvernmonarch7: *poke*01:46
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wyvernmonarch7hi01:47
SuperQwyvernmonarch7: see /msg01:47
ZodiacThe source seems encrypted, and can't be read. Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?01:47
wyvernmonarch7see /msg01:47
ZodiacNo....01:47
ZodiacI have it installed01:47
Zodiac:(01:47
geekchic9hi01:47
wyvernmonarch7whwat>01:47
SuperQwyvernmonarch7: you did not respond to my message01:47
wyvernmonarch7ya i did01:47
konengSuperQ, what do you mean by "what is it?"01:47
SuperQkoneng: what OS is the remote computer running01:47
wyvernmonarch7superq see my msesg01:48
ZodiacDoes Breezy have a problem with DVDs?01:48
SuperQwyvernmonarch7: you're not sending me any ;)01:48
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net_benjothe instructions say to do:  sudo sh  remove-old in 2 places....well I was having problem with those..basically i could NOT remove old files...but I tried to make ieee80211-1.0.3 anyways...that was stupid I know....01:48
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Quinthiuskoneng: smb://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/01:48
konengi assume windows XP.. it's on my university's network01:48
mkyb14i have a program that requires  GTK v2.0  . and apt-get install gtk doens't work..... anyone know how to obtain this?01:48
SuperQkoneng: ahh01:48
konengdo i need to install anything for smb to work?01:48
SuperQkoneng: no01:48
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djm62net_benjo: this is kind of messy, I'm trying to guess what files you have and what ones have been edited01:48
Quinthiuskoneng: no, just open up nautilus and type that in the location. it also appears to work in firefox i just found out...01:48
apowapt-get install gtk+01:48
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SuperQkoneng: there is also a network file browser in Places menu01:49
BlueEaglewhere did the admiral go?01:49
konengHmm, i keep getting "Sorry cannot display all the contents of "windows network: xxxx"01:49
mkyb14neg that doens't owrk01:49
mkyb14work*01:49
DaMi3ni have a problem with running java applets in ubuntu. when evr i run an applet it crashes with the message Problematic frame: # C  [libfontmanager.so+0x34ada] . is there a solution to this?01:49
konengi tried going to the speciic IP and random computers from Network places01:49
DaMi3nsoemone help me01:50
naliothDaMi3n: be patient01:50
mkyb14i have a program that requires  GTK v2.0  . and apt-get install gtk doens't work..... anyone know how to obtain this?01:50
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mkyb14the program is bluefish, and apt-get intall bluefish  ... doesn't work either even though their website says it does01:51
Zodiacthis stinks :(01:51
ZodiacDid the updates today break DVD playback??01:51
djm62net_benjo: did your card work out-of-the-box with wep?01:51
BlueEaglemkyb14: libgtk2.0-0 or something01:51
net_benjodjm62: yes01:52
cafuego_mkyb14: "doesn't work" is not a highly useful bug report. Can you paste the actual error on the pastebin?01:52
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BlueEaglemkyb14: just apt-cache search libgtk2 or search for libgtk2 in synaptic01:52
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mkyb14mkyb14@ubuntu:/$ sudo apt-get install bluefish01:52
mkyb14package doesn't exist01:52
cafuego_!info bluefish01:53
ubotubluefish: (gtk+ HTML editor), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.0+cvs2005021601-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1350 kB, Installed size: 5984 kB01:53
BlueEagle!tell mkyb14 about repos01:53
cafuego_mkyb14: You need to enable the 'universe' repository.01:53
mkyb14how01:53
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cafuego_See the message ubotu sent you01:53
net_benjodjm62: you have any idea how to restore it?   or am I stuck with reinstall01:54
putz_kinhuthere is a msn for linux that accept pictures?01:54
djm62net_benjo: I'm at a loss, because I'm not familiar with the drivers for that card01:54
konengSuperQ, Quinthius: is there anything I would need to configure in order to access network shares? I've tried several different once and I keep getting "Sorry cannot display all the contents of "windows network: <ip>"01:55
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net_benjothanks anyway man....i appreciate it01:55
konengonce = ones01:55
djm62net_benjo: how long has it been installed for? will it take less time to reinstall than to debug?01:55
BlueEagleputz_kinhu: gaim accepts pictures, doesn't it? Maybe amsn does?01:55
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putz_kinhui will try01:55
putz_kinhuthanks01:55
net_benjowell I've had it for about a month....01:55
BlueEagleputz_kinhu: If all else fails you could try kopete, but that uses QT, and will bring some overhead to gnome iirc.01:56
mik3putz_kinhu : you mean video?01:56
net_benjobut i don't really feel like a reinstall...but I might have to01:56
putz_kinhui'm using kopete01:56
putz_kinhudidid accept pics01:56
BlueEagleputz_kinhu: didid?01:56
putz_kinhudid not01:56
putz_kinhu^^01:56
BlueEagleahh01:56
mik3haha01:56
BlueEagleI was about to try /whois didid01:56
putz_kinhu^^01:56
BlueEagle:o01:56
putz_kinhu=p01:57
djm62net_benjo: " You can frequently find people on IRC channel #ipw2100 on  irc.freenode.org"01:57
mkyb14ok i enabled it but i don't know what i'm supposed to do now??01:57
djm62net_benjo: just checked the sf.net website for the ipw2200 driver01:57
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djm62net_benjo: that room's probably full of people who know what your problem is01:58
net_benjosorry which room....#ipw2100??01:58
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putz_kinhuBlueEagle, wich msn client do u use?01:58
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[t0rc] whats the line to reconfigure xorg? i forgot...01:58
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mkyb14ok i enabled it but i don't know what i'm supposed to do now??01:58
djm62net_benjo: yeah, 2100 not 220001:59
djm62net_benjo: it said on ipw2200.sf.net to go there01:59
LazloFruvousi just installed nvidia-glx, and restarted my xserver with "nvidia" instead of "nv" -- now my screen is all dim (like as if it had somehow gotten the backlight turned down to about 10% normal brightness) -- anyone have any ideas?01:59
BlueEagleputz_kinhu: I don't use msn.01:59
nathan__Hi. I want an advice. I'm wanting to buy a HP Notebook and install Linux in it. Will I have some compatibility problem?01:59
LazloFruvouswhen i revert to "nv" it works fine, but obviously no hardware accel01:59
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mkyb14ha i jsut did that nvidia install, works!01:59
naliothnathan__: some HP notebooks/desktops come with linux preinstalled02:00
net_benjocool thanks again buddy02:00
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djm62nathan__: my nx9020 worked out of the box02:00
cafuego_nathan__: Depends on the laptop. mine works fine, provided I tweak the pcmcia config file (other wise it locks up on boot). Check www.linux-laptops.net02:00
mkyb14ok i enabled it but i don't know what i'm supposed to do now??  BLUEEAGLE:02:00
djm62do not some hp notebooks come with ubuntu preinstalled?02:00
BlueEaglemkyb14: You enabled the repository?02:01
mkyb14yes02:01
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nathan__Great! Thanks everybody02:01
BlueEaglemkyb14: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install bluefish02:01
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mkyb14E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)02:02
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BlueEaglemkyb14: close synaptic first02:02
mkyb14E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?02:02
cvtok02:02
cvthi02:02
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naliothmkyb14: you can only run one instance of apt at a time02:02
naliothmkyb14: close all your synaptic windows02:02
BlueEaglemkyb14: or use synaptic to update the repositories and search for and install bluefish from there.02:02
mkyb14ok it's downloading ... so essentially what did i just do by enableing the repos02:02
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BlueEaglemkyb14: You added a library of programs that were previously unavailible to you.02:03
BlueEaglemkyb14: I think that was described in the url ubotu handed you02:04
MadeyeBlueEagle, actually bluefish is not a stable application, I would recommend Nvu over it, and maybe quanta02:04
BlueEaglemadeye: I never recomended it. I just told him how to install it.02:04
naliothMadeye: not stable?02:04
mkyb14so what's the best editor comprable to dreamweaver02:04
naliothMadeye: not wysiwyg, you mean?02:04
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mkyb14for linux02:04
Madeyenalioth, no I mean not stable.02:04
BlueEaglemadeye: I think bluefish is pure horesedroppings, but that doesn't keep me from helping other people test it.02:04
sdaliI want to install a C and/or C++ compiler (gcc, g++) to do some programming (school stuff) but I'm not sure which version I should install. I want to install a version that will be useful if I decide to build/install some apps from scratch that aren't available in any of the repositories. Any advice?02:05
naliothMadeye: hmph. i've never had any trouble with it02:05
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naliothsdali: install "build-essential" and have fun02:05
sdaliI'll check that out. Thanks.02:05
BlueEaglemkyb14: asking personal opinion or a feature per feature comparison?02:05
Madeyenalioth,  run it, ctrl F , write a word in search box, hit enter three times (HIT enter)02:05
kwilcoxDoes anyone know of any documentation of getting 3D acceleration to work on a SiS card02:05
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mkyb14just a good html editor for webdesign, php etc02:06
mkyb14i use dreamweaver on my windows machine02:06
naliothmkyb14: then use nvu, it's the closest thing02:06
Madeyemkyb14,  there is nothing like dreamweaver under linux02:06
BlueEaglemkyb14: quanta is the one I use in linux. It uses QT, and might bring an extra overhead in gnome (vs. in kde where this overhead already exists)02:06
mkyb14so ... sudo apt-get install nvu02:06
mkyb14?02:06
Madeyenalioth, it's not even close, Dreamweaver is huge!02:06
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occyIf I follow these instructions:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto   And I upgrade my kernel when I go to Breezy next month.... will it all just work?02:06
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BicchiCan anyone explain all menu options of grub during bootup. Like one says generic the other (recovery mode)02:07
Madeyenalioth, however I prefer gedit for such work02:07
mkyb14i got over trying to use a ndiswrapper and just bought a WET54G02:07
DaMi3nnalioth, no replies yet02:07
mkyb14linksys02:07
naliothMadeye: i used to use arachnophilia back in the way back02:07
occymkyb14, yeah?02:07
mkyb14yea, so easyt02:07
mkyb14i haded the ndiswrapper02:07
naliothDaMi3n: ask you question. wait a few minutes. ask your question again02:07
occymkyb14, this thing was on sale for $29bucks.02:07
occyheh02:07
mkyb14but you have to be willing to shell out 140 on newegg with shipping02:07
mkyb14but all my other computers connect through it with a hub02:08
kwilcoxDoes anyone know of any documentation of getting 3D acceleration to work on a SiS card?02:08
mkyb14not i02:08
occy:(02:08
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occymkyb14, it seems very "loose" in the USB slot too02:08
occyit doesn't fit snuggly.02:08
deliremkyb14: my gf enjoys quanta for web development very much.02:08
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occyheh, I use vim for doing CSS :)02:09
occyit rox02:09
mkyb14i just plug in the linux box and this windows one i'm on right now to the WET54G and it just thinks it's plugged into good o'l ethernet02:09
will__Whats up?02:09
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mkyb14no ndiswrapper bs etc ... works like a charm02:09
occy:/02:09
djm62vim is a bit heavy for me...cat and sed02:09
occyI should have gotten the pcmcia card02:10
occydjm62, hehe02:10
BlueEaglenalioth: What is the package name (and repository) for nvu?02:10
cafuego_Just keep in mind ndiswrapper is an abomination and if you have the choice of REAL hardware, use that instead.02:10
mkyb14oh laptop ... google various ones... they have more support02:10
kwilcoxBlueEagle: I suggest quanta02:10
Madeyenalioth,  actually I prefer to use any simple text editor, the only thing I need is text highlighting, but you know, sometimes something like dreamweaver is needed, I consider myself XHTML geek, and today I had to design a newsletter, they sent me a PSD file, and I had to make everything identical in pixels, 6 hours and it's not done, maybe if I were using dreamweaver i would be able to finish it in 30 minutes02:10
occy:/02:10
BlueEaglekwilcox: I suggest you follow the conversation. :)02:10
occyok...02:10
occyso this is a lose it seems.02:10
mkyb14i was trying to get a linksys 54g card in my tower to work, and i gave up after loosing my hair at 21 to figureing that out02:10
djm62Madeye: have you tried py-slice?02:10
cafuego_Madeye: html newsletters in email? Why didn't you tell the client they're idots? I would ;-)02:11
Madeyedjm62, never heard of it02:11
apokryphosMadeye: gedit does highlighting, doesn't it?02:11
naliothMadeye: i like syntax highlighting text things for my web/doc work02:11
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Madeyecafuego,  you cant tell someone paying $$$ you are an idiot :p02:11
Madeyeapokryphos,  yeah, and I love it02:11
DaMi3ni have a problem with running java applets in ubuntu. when evr i run an applet it crashes with the message Problematic frame: # C  [libfontmanager.so+0x34ada] . is there a solution to this?02:11
cafuego_Madeye: In my experience you can, provided you explain why in clear terms.02:11
BlueEaglekwilcox: [log entry]  mkyb14: quanta is the one I use in linux. It uses QT, and might bring an extra overhead in gnome (vs. in kde where this overhead already exists)02:11
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deliredjm62: cat and sed are a bit heavy for me also. i just use pipes and /proc.02:11
mkyb14quanta works just fine, :)02:12
Madeyecafuego,  go ahead please, explain how I can do that without getting fired!02:12
djm62Madeye: gimp plug-in, take a template image, slice it into an html table, is the idea.  I'm going to give it a shot02:12
Madeyemkyb14, yeah quanta is fine, but I hate QT smell02:12
mkyb14so if i wanted to remove bluefish ... # sudo apt-remove bluefish?02:12
mkyb14qt?02:13
Madeyedjm62, does gimp have such thing?02:13
cafuego_Madeye: Tell them at least half their target audience 1) Cannot view HTML email at all or 2) Is so paranoid about viruses that HTML email gets trashed before they even see it.02:13
BlueEaglemkyb14: apt-get remove bluefish02:13
mkyb14ah02:13
djm62Madeye: I have just read an article on it in a reasonably reliable magazine02:13
BlueEaglemkyb14: with sudo, ofcourse.02:13
cafuego_Madeye: That doesn't yet incldue people who CAN see html email, but have images turned off, so it'll look like crap anyway.02:13
djm62Madeye: I can't recommend it personally, and was kind of hoping you could ;)02:14
Madeyecafuego,  they send two versions, plain text and html, and their reader can choose02:14
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cafuego_Madeye: When I explain that, the client normally thinks text email is a a great idea.02:14
Madeyedjm62, heh02:14
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sdalinalioth: That was the ticket. Thanks again.02:14
cafuego_Madeye: That's assuming the read knows how <heh>02:14
cafuego_reader02:14
kwilcoxBlueEagle: did you find the repository02:14
Madeyecafuego,  my company deal with well educated people, unfortunatly we cannot lie02:15
naliothsdali: np, anytime02:15
mkyb14in ubuntu i've noticed that there is no trashcan ... so when i take files and say move to trash.... are they deleted or do i have to sudo a command02:15
BlueEaglekwilcox: which repository? For nvu?02:15
BicchiCan anyone explain all menu options of grub during bootup. Like one says generic the other says (recovery mode) ?02:15
Madeyeloll02:15
BlueEagle!tell kwilcox about nvu02:15
cafuego_Madeye: Nothing to do with lying and everything with understanding the customer's customer.02:15
DaMi3ni have a problem with running java applets in ubuntu. when evr i run an applet it crashes with the message Problematic frame: # C  [libfontmanager.so+0x34ada] . is there a solution to this?02:15
geekchic9mkyb14, there is a trashcan in the lower right-hand corner of the screen. It's blue.02:15
mkyb14thus....you gentlemen are gods :)02:16
Madeyecafuego,  well, I've managed to send CSS/XHTML based newsletter before, with and without images, but this layout was damn hard, a lot of rounded corners and curves02:16
geekchic9I prefer the term lady, but your thanks is accepted, mkyb14.02:16
BlueEaglekwilcox: nalioth had ubotu tell me about it. :)02:16
mkyb14ehy you could be the hottest chick that knows linux that i'll ever know!  hows that?02:17
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geekchic9mkyb14: I'm flattered. Unfortunately, if you are looking for a girlfriend, I'm taken.02:17
reikiheheh02:17
cafuego_Madeye: Yeah, and for probably no gain whatsoever, that's my point.02:17
mkyb14hahaha, no no honey bun.  i was just being nice/considerate for your help02:18
geekchic9mkyb14. You're welcome. But don't call me honey bun. :)02:18
Madeyecafuego,  but you know what, CSS/xhtml but image free are elegant and easy to manage02:18
mkyb14though if you feel like stalking me mypsace>mkyb1402:18
cafuego_Madeye: Does the client want to spend $500 to reach ALL of their customers or $2000 to reach 25%. normally it's an easy choice.02:18
BlueEaglegeekchic9: aww.. Who's the lucky bastard? :p02:19
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Madeyecafuego, I understand you, but the thing is, i'm not a decision maker, and on the other hand the cheapest contract we got was about 25.000$02:19
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geekchic9BlueEagle: His name is Matt and he's studying for a math Ph.D.02:19
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Madeyecafuego,  in others words, the manager canNOT say no02:19
cafuego_Madeye: Of course the manager can.02:20
Madeyecafuego,  I wish02:20
cafuego_Madeye: He may not _want_ to, but that's another issue02:20
mkyb14ew math, your breaking my heart02:20
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Madeyecafuego, not all people takes their work as religion, sometimes we have to compromise02:21
mkyb14;) Morgan Landry02:21
geekchic9mkyb14: math and CS are closely related in some areas.02:21
reikimy work IS religion! hehehe.... I'm clergy! :)02:21
mkyb14cs?02:21
cafuego_Madeye: Not all people have the dollar as religion either. if you can't tell a client about alternatives because they pay you  alot, that's the case I reckon.02:22
delirecomputer science mkyb1402:22
jimsCan anyone help me with an 'interfaces' issue?  I am new to Linux and Ubuntu.  I loaded it on my laptop, and configured my wireless card & WEP key.  However, after a few minutes, the connection halts & DNS stops working.02:22
mkyb14yea, cs wasn't fun.  management information systems is better for me02:22
Blissexjims: if you are using 'ndiswrapper' thats not unusual.02:22
Madeyereiki,  lol02:22
BlueEaglenalioth: Thankyou for showing me nvu. :)02:22
delirejims: hmm you may want to stop it 'auto associating'. man iwconfig, there's an option in there.02:22
naliothjims: which ubuntu are you using?02:22
naliothBlueEagle: np, anytime02:23
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reikiMadeye, :) .... not kidding actually... I'm working on a wedding ceremony I'm doing in August right now... heheh02:23
mkyb14so nvm is better than quanta?02:23
BlueEaglenalioth: I've been looking for something that handles ftp-sites like html-kit does for ages, and oops! There it is!02:23
Madeyecafuego,  they are aware of the alternative, and they already use it, but they want to offer their readers more options.02:23
jimsHow do I know if I am using madwifi or ndiswrapper?02:23
reikiin August? ... make that "in October"02:23
DaMi3ni have a problem with running java applets in ubuntu. when evr i run an applet it crashes with the message Problematic frame: # C  [libfontmanager.so+0x34ada] . is there a solution to this?02:23
naliothBlueEagle: yes, nvu does have some nice features02:23
BlueEagle..now I just need to get it docked on the right side of the editor window :p02:23
Madeyereiki,  you can kiss the BITCH now02:23
Madeyeheh02:23
jimsI got the UBUNTU CD last week...02:24
reikiMadeye, I can do that... I do alternative weddings :)02:24
kevogodI got them 4-5 months ago.02:24
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naliothDaMi3n: have you tried www.ubuntuforums.com and/or the mailing lists?02:25
Madeyejims, lucky you, I got 50CD last month and they costumes dep labeled it as *EXPENSIVE PRODUCT* and they wanted me to pay 250$ but i refused, and asked them to take it/trash it/ or send it back02:25
Madeyeand they send it back02:25
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furicAfter upgrading in apt, all of my kde applications aren't putting their system tray icons in the gnome-panel notification panel on hoary, they put them in a little seperate window, any way to fix?02:25
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funkyHatcan anyone help me with X11 Forwarding? i get a Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:02:26
mkyb14is there a sudo phpinstaller that will auto config apache too??  like php-apache?02:26
DaMi3nnalioth, yes02:26
reikiBlueEagle, does the app you're using handle CSS properly? I'd give my eye teeth for an editor that knew more about CSS positioning than me :)02:26
delirefunkyHat: you have the option for X forwarding set to true in the relevant config?02:26
DaMi3nnalioth, i tried ubuntuforums but cant find a solution02:26
jimsIs there a procedure or forum that will tell me how to use something other than ndiswrappers?02:26
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DaMi3nnalioth, though many people have faced the problem02:27
naliothfunkyHat: have you read the google-found howtos on "x forwarding"?02:27
BlueEaglereiki: Well, it doesn't appear to highlight PHP properly. :/02:27
funkyHatthat's what i'm doing, and following it doesn't seem to be working02:27
mkyb14is there a sudo phpinstaller that will auto config apache too??  like php-apache?02:27
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jcarr_hey02:27
reikiBlueEagle, is that Quanta?02:28
jcarr_what package creates a my computer type link with the devices?02:28
delirejims: ndiswrapper can be a truly annoying pest.. there are few alternatives sadly for that 'hardware'.02:28
jcarr_on debian an apt-get upgrade did it in kde and gnome02:28
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funkyHatdelire, i haven't set any options, the tutorial i was reading didn't mention that :$02:28
AdmiralSennhohoho - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/Official_nVidia02:28
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jcarr_it just says computer, and has a floppy, hard drive, and cd drive devices listed02:28
jimsdelire: Aren't there any drivers for a Netgear WiFi card?02:29
BlueEaglereiki: No, nvu. Quanta has got excellenet syntax highlighting.02:29
delirefunkyHat: see /etc/ssh/ssh_config. look at the line "#   ForwardX11 no". you are better however working with a local '~/' config. like ~/.ssh/config02:29
funkyHatthanks :)02:29
funkyHati'll have a read of the ssh man page too ;)02:29
delirefunkyHat: that's the spirit!02:30
jcarr_is there some package that does that?02:30
reikiBlueEagle, I have Bluefish installed but haven't really had time to mess with it. My sites are all database driven now so once I make a template and style sheet, I don't really have to design pages any more. I go into an administrative backend, add content, and poof it's all formatted02:30
delirejims: it's not a good choice of card for Linux, many other are however and work very well. see the ubuntu forums..02:30
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michaelhi channel02:31
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reikiBlueEagle, but I'd LOVE an app that simply helps me make the templates faster02:31
jcarr_hello room02:31
funkyHatdelire, which machine does the ForwardX11 variable have to be set? the man page isn't very clear on that02:31
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naliothfunkyHat: read the simple howtos google will point you to for "x forwarding"02:31
BlueEaglereiki: Well, I coded my backend system and editor myself. The design is, however, hardwired.02:32
delirefunkyHat: the host02:32
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delirefunkyHat: eg the machine you are connecting *to*02:32
funkyHatthanks :)02:32
delirenp02:32
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cvtcan't dl attachments from emails in firefox02:32
cvterror message: malformed address02:32
BlueEaglereiki: Attempting to install quanta now, as linspire is KDE-based and nvu might be utilizing those libs for highlighting php. (I can hope, atleast)02:32
reikihehe02:33
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Bicchii just want to know the difference between: "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic Default"   and    "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic" in the grub bootloader?02:34
delirecvt: strange..02:34
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delireBicchi: these are both in the line marked 'Label'?02:34
Bicchidelire: no inside the file menu.lst   title02:35
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Bicchidelire: they are actually bootup options02:35
delireBicchi: ah yes, i meant title (sorry from my Lilo days).02:35
cevizogluwhy does my backspace key behave like my delete key in zsh, instead of behaving normally?  how would I fix this?02:36
BlueEagleWell, it's 1.0 software, so perhaps when it gets more mature it will make me switch. Atleast it's something to keep my eyes on. :)02:36
BlueEagle..but now... it's night.02:36
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HrdwrBoBcevizoglu: http://mundy.yazzy.org/unix/zsh.php02:37
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delireBicchi: they are not boot options, they are simply strings to be passed to the screen for you to make a visible distinction between kernels you are booting as listed in the link 'kernel [...] ' below.02:37
delires/link/line02:37
Bicchidelire: yes but whats the difference between each one02:37
delireBicchi: very little ;)02:37
Bicchidelire: for example ?02:37
delireBicchi: are the entries for 'kernel' and 'root' underneath the same?02:38
cvterror message dl'ing attachments: xml parsing error: not well-formed Location: chrome://mozapps/content/downloads/unkowncontenttype.xul Line number 1, column2:02:38
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cvthelp with downloading in firefox?02:38
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cvthow can i dl legit attachments from my email??02:38
Bicchidelire: no each has a different set of parameters02:38
ripgutwhere can i go to post errors?02:38
furickopete is suddenly refusing to connect after i upgraded everything in hoary (gnome) last night, its also putting its system tray icon in a little window instead of the notification area of gnome-panel now, but that seems to be affecting all kde apps. any known fix's?02:39
delireBicchi: right, but you do have two blocks of lines i can assume, one with each of the titles you wrote above.02:39
reikihas anyone found how to get Thunderbird reading mail from /var/mail ?02:39
Bicchidelire: yes02:39
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delireBicchi: which one do you use when you boot up?02:39
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mkyb14OK, anyone know of a program that sits in the task bar and tells the CPU and RAM clocks............... not grkrellum02:40
ripgutcan someone pm me02:40
ripgutplease02:40
Bicchidelire: Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic Default02:40
delireBicchi: then you can safely comment out the entire other block. i don't know how it ended up there.02:40
naliothmkyb14: not a task bar proggy, but conky.sourceforge.net or #conky02:40
cafuego_mkyb: The gnome applet; Frequence Scaling Monitor. Doesn't mention ram speed though,a s that never changes.02:40
delireBicchi: you also have a block for a kernel 2.6.8? or 2.4.27?02:41
Bicchidelire: its been like that since i installed kubuntu02:41
mkyb14no ram speed persay but amount used etc02:41
Bicchidelire: nope02:41
XorlevWhat's a good BitTorrent client for Linux, preferably native, not java. Azureus makes Xorg leak memory on my system and eventually all of my memory and swap are used, even once Azureus crashes.02:41
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naliothXorlev: bittornado, or bittorrent02:41
delireBicchi: strange.. well if you like, just change the titles themselves and leave the rest. one probably offers some sort of fallback safe acpi boot.02:41
cafuego_mkyb14: Right click on the panel, click Add to panel ... scroll to find what you need.02:41
vanbergeany ideas of what to do if my rythmbox all the sudden doesnt play mp3's02:42
zorba64Xorlev: gnome bittorrent client?02:42
bimberimkyb14: there is also a System Monitor applet which can be configured to show RAM usage02:42
kwilcoxBlueEagle: Any luck with the php and nvu? I cannot get it to open a php file02:42
ripgutok, can anyone help?02:42
Bicchidelire: i guess, its just that everytime i upgrade the menu goes back to having 6 options anyways. so i just deside never to change it02:43
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kwilcoxripgut: i did pm you02:43
naliothripgut: ask in channel02:43
bimberiubotu tell ripgut about pastebin02:43
ripguti need to know what this error means02:43
zorba64!pastebin02:43
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:43
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mkyb14yea like that system monitor but for ram......02:44
meko_i cant install wine in my ubuntu my synamptic gives me an error failed to fetch http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/02:44
mkyb14like 505/78602:44
delireBicchi: it is strange and you are rightly asking why this occurs. i would post about it in the forums. it's a good thing to address. one shouldn't have so many near duplicate kernel entries and not know why they are there.02:44
meko_what should i do ?02:44
LootBeeri cannot get my ipaq to be detected... by activesync.. pls help!!!!!!!!!!!!!02:44
Bicchidelire: do you also have so many boot options?02:44
Bicchidelire: entries i mean02:45
bimberimkyb14: Right Click on the applet, select preferences, unselect Processor, select Memory02:45
delireBicchi: i'm on debian here to be honest, but on my Ubuntu machine at work i have very few.02:45
BlueEaglekwilcox: I get it to open the .php file, but it doesn't highlight it, and it appears to add <html><head><title.. at the top of the file if it's not already there. :(02:45
delireBicchi: eg 202:45
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kwilcoxBlueEagle: Yeah, that is how far I have gotten.  Not real impressed with the app so far02:45
mkyb14oh i was looking for something numerical not colors02:45
Bicchidid you modify your menu.lst file or it just comes like that from the distro02:45
delireBicchi: laptops tend to have more boot options themselves, and perhaps entries in some circumstances, i cannot say.02:45
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BlueEaglekwilcox: Not me either. Still it's a 1.0 version, and it looks like it has got potential.02:46
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delireBicchi: it's a tower machine and came with three menu.lst entries if i recall correctly.02:46
kwilcoxBlueEagle: If Quanta didn't show up so funny in Gnome i would use that for default02:46
bimberimkyb14: ah, k - don't know sorry02:46
mkyb14cool whell thanks for the info though02:46
Bicchideliver: so we are back to square one. not sure why so many entries02:46
delirekwilcox: i agree it needs better gnome integration. post that on the quanta forums.02:46
bimberimkyb14: yw :)02:46
mkyb14ubuntu i'm liking way way wayyyy more than fedora, pos02:47
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kwilcoxBlueEagle: Don't want to stare at size 20 font on my menu bars heh02:47
superpolloHola gente02:47
delireBicchi: well your original question was the difference between two grub title entries ;)02:47
rigeli dislike gnome02:47
bur[n] errigel: use xfce ;)02:47
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rigeland kubuntu is treated like a redheaded stepchild02:47
rigelthe default gui package manager doesnt even let you add sources02:47
kevogodredheaded? Don't you mean rented?02:47
rigelno, idiom02:48
rigeli meant what i said02:48
Bicchidelire: yeah but now its also about why so many options when i just dual boot02:48
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mkyb14if i'm getting a permissions denied when i add'd a wordpress theme... does tha mean that i have to change the chmod # of the /var/www/wordpress folder and all -R files?02:48
delireBicchi: you can fairly safely remove duplicates. just ensure you do not remove the working menu block with. i don't know why they are re-entered in an upgrade.02:48
Bicchidelire: :-) lets see what happens during breezy02:48
rigeli cant get a straight answer from the vorbis people02:48
djm62kwilcox: if you can run kcontrol you can give qt apps a more humane look02:48
rigeldoes anyone know of an ncurses or commandline mp3 player that also does flac?02:49
delireBicchi: yes, that's a good way of looking at it ;)02:49
mkyb14Warning: main(/var/www/wordpress/wp-content/themes/ffussed/index.php): failed to open stream: Permission denied in /var/www/wordpress/wp-blog-header.php on line 22102:49
djm62skype was bugging the hell out of me until I did that02:49
bur[n] erdoes cplay do flac?  i forget02:49
rigelcplay?02:49
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delirerigel: hmm pytone may do flac now.02:49
rigelpytone?02:49
rigelhow resource intensive is it?02:49
rigelim running this shit off a p3-45002:49
rigelso if theres a lot of python overhead....02:49
delirerigel: it is when first building the db. after that it is excellent. the players it uses are libmad,xmms,mpg321/12302:50
rigelwait, what?02:50
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rigeli just want a media player02:50
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rigelthat does mp3 and flac02:50
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rigelbecause xmms-flac breaks xmms at the moment02:50
rigelwell, that and i cant use xmms on the commandline02:51
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bur[n] errigel: bmp?02:51
bur[n] ercplay != python based... cplay == curses02:51
rigelburner, beep? yeah, thats what i have installed now, but thats gui-only innit?02:51
bur[n] erit is02:51
bur[n] eryou said xmms though02:52
rigelyeah02:52
rigelwell, xmms has assloads of plugins02:52
bur[n] erand most work with bmp02:52
rigelso when i do (rarely) use the gui, i default to xmms02:52
bur[n] erto each their own, I use beep02:53
rigelbut i want to be able to play flac's from the commandline02:53
delirerigel: pytone is a jukebox with playlist support.02:53
naliothrigel: cplay02:53
rigelhmm02:53
bur[n] eri said that :)02:53
delirerigel: apt-cache search flac player02:53
rigeli installed beep while i was at work02:53
bur[n] erdoes mpd/mpc do flac?02:53
rigelim gonna check it out02:53
bur[n] erflac blows ;)02:53
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shinuis it better to compile eggdrop or apt-get it?02:53
bur[n] erlong live shn!02:53
johnnybezakits better to apt-get everything02:54
johnnybezakunless you need the latest and greatest02:54
shinuwell02:54
johnnybezak(not to mention less of a pain in the arse)02:54
shinui dont know where to get the modules for eggdrop then...02:55
shinui think normally it would just compile them...02:55
naliothshinu: either way is fine02:55
joy i have a problem how to use webcam in gaim internet explorer there was no wedcam buttom so how can find them plz help02:55
naliothshinu: but the more things you put in your system NOT using the repos, the more your upgrades can be hosed02:55
rigelshit02:56
rigelhow do i start bmp02:56
mik3applications - sound and video02:56
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rigeloh, i just didnt see it under multimedia02:57
rigelmy bad02:57
shinunalioth: i see02:57
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rigelis there a plugin i need for bmp to play flac's?02:58
naliothrigel: use synaptic and search for "flac"02:59
rigeli already have flac libs installed03:00
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Ether7how can I safely re-install windows if ubuntu is located on the first section of the drive? (free fat32 part for win on the second part of the drive)03:01
michaelsigh- i'e researched in forums, but i'm still having sudo problems- any ideas?03:01
Orunitiaa friend's ntfs drive just showed up as corrupt and unusable. Would he be able to do anything with the files on that harddrive with an ubuntu live cd?03:02
Ether7(without harming my ubuntu partition)03:02
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rigelyeah, so the appropriate flac libraries are installed, but bmp isnt recognizing them as playable03:03
misterdiffalright, not to start yet another microsoft bash but have any of you seen the screenies for vistas03:03
misterdiff*vista03:03
naliothOrunitia: if he has networking and/or an extra cd burning drive, he might recover some data03:03
rigelor an extra drive03:04
naliothmisterdiff: you are welcome to start any bash you like in #ubuntu-offtopic03:04
Orunitiawould he be able to move data between ntfs drives?03:04
NoUseEther7 windows will always wipe out the mbr, but you can fix that by re running grub, if you just tell Windows install to use the second partition you should be ok03:04
naliothOrunitia: not with the livecd03:04
rigeloru: no, no writing on ntfs03:04
rigelif you wanted to reformat as fat3203:04
naliothOrunitia: you might also look at "bart pe builder" on google03:04
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djm62Orunitia: but you could back it up onto CD/DVD03:05
Orunitianot 160gb03:05
naliothOrunitia: network?03:05
rigelthats less than a 50 pack of dvdr's03:05
Orunitiawell his computer just got messed up and a bunch of stuff died03:05
rigelif you got an 8x or 16x burner 160gbs is doable03:05
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Orunitiathanks for the suggestions though03:05
djm62Orunitia: also, you only need to back up data...not applications or OS03:06
Ether7nouse: okay, but the windows wont install for some reason unless it gets at the beginning of the drive?03:06
Orunitiayeah he has 160gb in files he needs to backup03:06
djm620.003:06
mik3what's that program that will take an image and output it into a bunch of text03:06
rigelso can anyone help me with this bmp-flac issue?03:06
Orunitiayeah haha03:06
naliothOrunitia: hope he's got a network and another box03:06
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djm62and a couple of days03:06
Orunitiawould he be able to format it as fat32 without losing files?03:07
rigelno03:07
rigelthe fat32 format thing would be if you had a spare drive03:07
naliothOrunitia: only using Partition Magic03:07
rigelsince you cant write to ntfs03:07
NoUseEther7 hmm you might have to move the partition03:07
delireOrunitia: perhaps get this person online here.03:07
Ether7nouse: can do if it wont harm my ubuntu03:08
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Orunitiaokay he has spare drives he can format03:08
Orunitiathanks03:08
meko__how do i install wine?03:08
jtan325anyone here use breezy? my mouse "lags" occassionally...03:08
djm62!wine03:08
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Ether7nouse: what tool would be best?03:08
NoUsegparted or partition magic should be able to do that, but I've never do it before03:08
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naliothNoUse: Partition magic is the only program known to convert filesystems w/o destruction03:09
buddyare there anysites that have tutorials or anything to linux/ubuntu networking03:09
naliothbuddy: wiki.ubuntu.com03:09
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IceDragonHye03:10
IceDragon*hey03:10
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michaelhi03:10
NoUsenalioth not convert, move03:10
fujiehello03:10
IceDragonI'm trying to get a SoundBlaster audigy driver03:10
naliothNoUse: it'd get sticky03:10
IceDragonwanted to get it running,  the device manager recognizes my soundcard03:11
meko__!help03:11
michaelhave you set the multimedia to alsa?03:11
IceDragonbut no sound03:11
IceDragon<-- utter n00b03:11
zblachanyone here use flashgot?03:11
IceDragonjust installed ubuntu 3 days ago03:11
NoUseEther7 so use partition magic03:11
michaelok- we all are :)03:11
zblachIceDragon, go to a console, type alsamixer03:11
zblachbrowse across03:11
IceDragonok03:11
IceDragonhold on03:11
IceDragonnice03:12
michaelwait for it03:12
IceDragonyep03:12
IceDragonshows my soundcard name at the top03:12
zblachyup03:12
IceDragoncouple of bars03:12
zblachnow, scroll across03:12
zblachyou should see groups of 'MM'03:12
Versedhow hard would it be to install the kde from kubuntu onto ubuntu?03:12
zblachin little boxe03:12
zblachs03:12
Versedjust grab kde?03:12
IceDragonyep03:12
benkong2anybody know how to turn synclient on for synaptics touchpad?  synclient -h gives me the error "Can't access shared memory area. SHMConfig disabled?"03:12
IceDragon2 little boxes03:12
zblachat everyone of those boxes, hit 'M'03:12
zblachto un-mute03:12
zblachscroll all the way left, unmuting every box03:13
IceDragonI dont think it'll let me edit anything03:13
zblachdid you sudo alsamixer?03:13
IceDragonyes03:13
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mkyb14if ubuntu freezes when loading gaim ... how do i kill it03:13
IceDragonwent into the terminal and typed " alsamixer " and this popped up03:13
chavomkyb14, pull the power cord03:14
zblachyou're in the right thing03:14
mkyb14lol no03:14
chavo:)03:14
mkyb14is there a command to kill the process03:14
pestilenceanybody here use dual-head displays on their laptop?03:14
chavomkyb14, you can try xkill03:14
IceDragonbrb03:14
NoUsemkyb14 killall gaim03:14
chavoor kill from a console03:14
michaelmkyb14- have you tried console login, the apt-get remove gaim?03:14
RiddellVersed: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:14
Versedthanks riddell.03:15
mkyb14i don't want to remove it just kill the process... i'm ssh'd into thebox03:15
zblachIceDragon, you un mute everything yet?03:15
NoUsemkyb14 yeah you want killall03:15
mkyb14so #killall gaim03:15
jtan325anyone here use breezy and found that they couldn't play some video formats after upgrading?03:15
zblachIceDragon, actually, you only have to unmute 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack"03:15
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michaelhe brb'd zblach03:16
NoUsemkyb14 yeah03:16
zblachok03:16
mkyb14didn't work03:16
mkyb14heh03:16
zblachin the mean while, anyone here use flashgot?03:16
michaelno how to fix sudo problems?03:16
NoUsemkyb14 killall -9 gaim03:16
nybbleback03:16
Urban2040Could someone help me with the Ubuntu install?03:16
nybbleUrban2040: yes03:16
michaelhow help?03:16
naliothUrban2040: ask your question03:16
mkyb14nope03:16
mkyb14still frozen03:16
nybbleUrban2040: what seems to bhe the problem03:16
mkyb14i'm looking at a messed up buddy list03:16
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mkyb14all the doors are open ahhhh03:17
NoUsemkyb14 does that command return anything?03:17
mkyb14nope03:17
nybblemkyb14: but so am i, but thats my choice of contacts LOL03:17
mkyb14but i can list dir's and stuff03:17
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Urban2040I have went through and install everything, my sytem rebooted and it started installing the packages, when it's done, my monitor comes up saying "out of range"03:17
nybbleUrban20403:17
NoUsemkyb14 probably need to restart X03:17
mkyb14how?03:17
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nybble*Urban2040: ok. that means that the wrong "frequencies' were chosen by the installer for your monitor03:17
NoUseif you're at the X session - Ctrl + Atl + Backspace03:17
mkyb14# /etc/init.d/gdm03:17
mkyb14from console?03:18
IceDragonzblach,  how03:18
zblachhow what?03:18
IceDragon?03:18
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mkyb14x session is frozen03:18
Urban2040nybble: How can I change it?03:18
zblachgo to a console and type> sudo alsamixer03:18
NoUsemkyb14 no while in X03:18
IceDragonHow do I unmute, it seems as if the characters are just text03:18
mkyb14can't03:18
zblachIceDragon,03:18
IceDragonconsole == terminal?03:18
Urban2040I am not too knowledgable with Linux03:18
zblachyes03:18
mkyb14yea03:18
NoUsemkyb14 why?03:18
nybbleUrban2040: ok. Press and hold Ctrl, Alt, and then press F103:18
zblachclose the other one03:18
nybblewhile holding Ctrl and Alt03:18
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mkyb14the only way i can access the computer is ssh.... if i try it on the keyboard it doen'st do anything03:19
nybbleUrban2040: does that bring up a login prompt?03:19
fujiecan anyone help me out with my Asus A8N-SLI Premium?03:19
NoUsemkyb14 have you tried Ctrl + Alt + Backspace? its a kernel level thing03:19
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mkyb14yea, no go03:19
IceDragonahh03:19
IceDragonI see03:19
IceDragonthanks03:19
zblachjust worry about the Audigy Analog/Digital Jack03:20
zblacheverything else is worthless03:20
mkyb14ftp and stuff works03:20
michaelworthless?03:20
mkyb14so how do you restart the x session from console on ssh03:20
NoUsemkyb14 reboot hehe03:20
mkyb14terminal sorry03:20
nybbleUrban2040: anything?03:20
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Urban2040Sorry, do I hit ctrl + alt at the bootloader or after I choose Ubuntu03:21
zblachwhat is the command to restart X?03:21
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nybbleyou hit Ctrl + alt +f1 while the monitor says "out of range"03:22
cevizogluzblach: I think it's startx, but I can't remember03:22
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zblachthe only way i know is Ctrl+Alt+F2, then Ctrl+C03:22
Urban2040Oh ok, well it's a dual boot system so I have to get off windows to go try it. What should I do if it does bring up the login03:22
zblachbrb. gotta restart X03:22
mkyb14haha it is totally all messed up colors now after rebooting, lol.  uhhh ok.  is there a way to make it so that when my computer restarts that apache and ftp etc startup auto03:23
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NoUsemkyb14 install bum03:23
NoUsemkyb14 its a boot up manager03:23
bimberi!bun03:24
ubotubimberi: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?03:24
bimberi!bum03:24
ubotubum is, like, totally, a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html03:24
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bimberiD'Oh03:24
nybbleUrban2040: ok. log in, then03:24
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nybblerun03:24
aleki've been having problems with firefox and java wanting to die...gives this error /lib/i386/libawt.so: libXp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:24
neighborleedo I set ext3 as 'm' or '*' in kernel config ? ( ive got m atm)03:24
neighborleewanna be sure before I start compiling03:25
nybbleUrban2040: how familiar are you with the command line?03:25
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pestilenceneighborlee: i believe that if your partition on which the kernel resides is ext3, you need "Y" for that.03:26
Urban2040not too familiar03:26
nybbleUrban2040: actually, this Wiki page should help you... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingXAutoconfiguration03:26
neighborleepestilence, ok03:26
pestilenceneighborlee: otherwise, you have to use a initrd03:26
alekanyone have an idea why firefox and java are clashing on breezy?03:26
IceDragonIs there any good theme software out for linux?03:27
nybbleUrban2040: use the second set of instructions03:27
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neighborleepestilence, gotcha03:27
IceDragonSomthing like stardock?03:27
uber_spacedwhat's the easiest way to get sshd to accept remote connections?03:27
nybbleUrban2040: Follow the instructions under "Information for Ubuntu 5.04 (Hoary)"03:27
uber_spaced(off of a base install of ubuntu)03:27
HrdwrBoBuber_spaced: sudo apt-get install ssh03:27
HrdwrBoBuber_spaced: then you're done03:27
alekIceDragon: most window managers for linux contain their own theme system.03:27
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uber_spacedHrdwrBoB: thanks!03:27
neighborleepestilence, k thx03:28
devonst17How do you switch X from your :0 display to a :1 display, or share your :0 with both your monitor and VNCServer?03:28
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devonst17(btw, switching the :0 to :1 needs to be done in bash over ssh... if possible)03:28
alekdevonst17: i believe vnc runs it's own X session, so i'm not sure it's possible to have both at the same time03:28
uber_spacedUbuntu is looking pretty sweet; I'm still using RH903:29
Orunitiadoes breezy's live cd include gnomebaker or k3b?03:29
IceDragoneh?03:29
devonst17alek: how do I switch my xsession over ssh then?03:29
alekOrunitia: no03:29
buddywhere/how do i get/use new themes?03:29
devonst17alek: that is equally acceptable03:29
Orunitiawow....great03:29
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alekdevonst17: not sure, because i have no experience with x apps over ssh tunnel03:29
devonst17oic03:29
alekOrunitia: they are easily installable by apt-get03:29
naliothbuddy: gnome-look.org, deviantart.com03:29
jdahlinIs there a howto for customizing acpi dsdt images for ubuntu?03:29
buddyhow do i use them03:30
Orunitiaalek: can you install stuff on a live cd though?03:30
alekOrunitia: sorry didn't see Live Cd in there...03:30
alekhah03:30
Orunitiawhat I figured :P03:30
aleknot sure haven't used the breezy live cd03:30
aleki'm having troubles with the install of breezy as it is :-/03:30
Orunitiaah03:30
naliothOrunitia: yes you can03:30
IceDragonhmm03:30
Orunitianalioth: how exactly?03:30
IceDragonI guess I should ask, is there a way to modify the GUI of ubuntu to look differently?03:31
alekapt-get install <package> ?03:31
IceDragonpreferrably somthing thats already been done03:31
naliothOrunitia: the same way as on the install. use apt-get or synaptic03:31
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alekIceDragon: you need to be more specific...03:31
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alekIceDragon: there are many window managers, all of which look differently and act differently.03:31
Zaacccould someone maybe help me out with the Debootstrap Error? it would be much appreciated03:31
H4zni cant seem to be able to log on to the net03:31
nybbleUrban2040: did that help?03:31
Orunitianalioth: I guess you just need to enable the repositories?03:31
nybbleUrban2040 *did you get the link?03:31
H4znsays my etho is not configured03:32
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IceDragonI mean, like the central look... where the look as a whole is changed, not just individual windows03:32
alekIceDragon: it's not like windows, where you change the way it looks...a window manager runs on top of Xorg and that denotes the way it looks03:32
IceDragonXorg?03:32
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alekIceDragon: do some research on the differences between Gnome and KDE, they are two very different window managers03:32
IceDragonhmm...03:32
naliothOrunitia: correct. just like an install (you lose everything upon restart, tho)03:32
Orunitianalioth: thanks03:33
alekIceDragon: Xorg is the "windows" of linux03:33
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IceDragonJust want somthing that looks cool, this default look seems to be very plain03:33
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sybaritenthink i just managed to fcuk up my ubuntu install03:33
sybaritenand i mean bad03:33
reikiWhat are the implecations of making permissions on /var/spool/mail directory set to 01777? This is what Thunderbird wants in order to read local mail spool.03:33
reikithis is a single user machine03:33
alekreiki: a pretty big security hole, i'd say...03:33
H4znxan anyone help me?03:34
H4zn*can03:34
IceDragonhm03:34
IceDragonfreshmeat looks interesting03:34
alekIceDragon: do you have ubuntu installed?03:34
alekIceDragon: try themes at freshmeat03:34
reikialek: that's what it looks like to me as well. But in order to use a Unix Movemail account it has to create a lock file03:34
IceDragonalek, yes03:34
IceDragonwent over smoothly03:34
IceDragonlooking there now03:34
alekIceDragon: yeah check out the gnome themes, the default brown is kinda boring, but the glory of window managers in linux are that you can change the look completely, but it still functions the same.03:35
Zaacc:'( doesn't anyone here know anything about the debootstrap error that appears at 6% of the installation?03:35
IceDragonCan I also change the look of the logon screen?03:35
reikianyone else using Thunderbird to read from local mail spool?03:35
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alekreiki: i can't see why it would have any other repricussions other than allowing anyone to read the mail spool03:36
aleksp03:36
sybariteni had an accidental shutdown of my computer (a mac!) and upong the next reboot, gnome wouldnt completely load. plain ubuntu. there was a message about "the bonobo-activation server", and after reading some cases (too sloppy!!) on the web, i decided to try and replace gnome-panel03:36
sybaritensoneone else had had similar problem due to a broken gnome-panel03:36
Octane`/topic03:36
reikialek: well... as I said... this is just my own home machine... everyone here at home has their own computer. Not like this is at work in an office environment03:36
aleksybariten: was it during install?03:36
Octaneis there a breezy channel?03:36
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alekreiki: then i'd say do it at your own risk...i'm no expert03:37
sybaritenso an apt-get install didnt do much, so i removed it ... apt-get remove gnome-panel. Well, turns out now, the machine appearently has no net connection so a simple apt-get install gnome-panel wasnt such a simple task as i believed03:37
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sybaritenalek: no, during usage03:37
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IceDragonI know I must sound like a huge noob, but I cant get BitchX working03:37
aleksybariten: do you have the ubuntu install cd handy?03:38
reikisybariten, you still have the CD? You should be able to use the CD as repository03:38
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sybaritenthe biggest problem right now is that i cant tab-commands in the bash ... which is odd ... hehe .. but anyhow, is there any easy way i can get the NIC up and running ?03:38
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IceDragonI have the tar.gz file, but it wont let me do anything after I extract it03:38
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aleksybariten: ifconfig eth0 up03:38
Orunitiaicedragon: why not just install it with apt-get?03:38
aleksybariten: then type ifconfig and see if it shows anything03:38
IceDragonI do not know what that is03:38
H4znCan anyone help me please?...:)03:38
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IceDragonI'd like a manual way of doing it to get the hang of it though03:38
sybaritenalek: frankly i dont....  i could burn one, but i'm too tired ATM. I installed PPC Ubuntu over at a friends house on two iMacs, one for him and one for me .. and then i moved the iMac here03:38
IceDragon:-(03:38
Urban2040nybble: What was that website again?03:38
sybaritenits been rock solid until now03:38
nalioth!tell IceDragon about synaptic03:38
naliothIceDragon: the manual way can botch your system03:39
NoUseH4zn have you asked a question?03:39
alekIceDragon: there is a guide for starting on linux...specifically ubuntu..check out http://ubuntuguide.org, but be aware it's not updated for breezy03:39
naliothIceDragon: read what ubotu sent you03:39
IceDragonah03:39
Octaneanyone here get sk98lin to work in breezy? Its the Marvell 88E8053 NIC03:39
nybbleUrban2040: actually, this Wiki page should help you... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingXAutoconfiguration03:39
naliothalek: please dont do that03:39
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nalioth!tell alek about ubuntuguide03:39
H4znNoUse: yes03:39
Urban2040OK thanks03:39
nalioth!tell IceDragon about ubuntuguide03:39
sybaritenwhat the HECK??!!  anyone seen this error msg (approximately) : "SIOCCSIFLAGS: Permission denied"03:40
dabar!tell nalioth about msg the bot03:40
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NoUseH4zn what is your problem?03:40
dabar:P03:40
H4zni cant go online or use any type of messanger03:40
IceDragon...03:40
IceDragonI can read heh03:40
naliothdabar: i was making a point, ty03:40
sybaritenifconfig doesnt normally require root does it ?03:40
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NoUseH4zn are you getting an IP address?03:40
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H4znno...03:40
IceDragon!faq03:40
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)03:40
dabarwish me luck for tomorrow when I try to animate students at my university that are taking the Unix class to try ubuntu.03:40
sybariteni'd like to reboot now, but then again i wouldnt because ubuntu will try and go into gnome ....03:40
linuxpoetdabar it is easy03:41
aleksybariten: it does if you try to change settings03:41
reikinalioth, expert opinion? In order to get Thunderbird to read local mail spool it wants to create a lock file while readin ... and it asks me to set /var/spool/mail to permissions 01777. You think that's ok on a single user machine or is it a bad idea?03:41
linuxpoetTell them it is Debian, but good03:41
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aleksybariten: you should be able to type 'ifconfig' as any user and see the settings03:41
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dabarnono, they never heard of linux mostly.03:41
NoUseH4zn do you use DHCP?03:41
nybblehey...anyone know what this "HP Linux Printing and Imaging System" package is?03:41
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naliothreiki: 01777?03:41
dabaralmost, at least, maybe the name.03:41
reikinalioth, I'm sure that's extended notation of some kind. I can do 77703:41
naliothdabar: this is the time to have a bag o' ubuntu discs03:42
H4znNoUse: no..i dont know what that means03:42
linuxpoet01777 I have never seen... I have seen 177703:42
naliothreiki: is your box secure?03:42
naliothreiki: ultimately it is your box03:42
NoUseH4zn how do you configure Windows for the internet?03:42
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sybaritenalek : ok03:42
reikinalioth: it's a single user box in my home behind a router03:42
dabarI said, wish me luck, noone says nothing...that kinda sucks.03:42
johnnybe1akguys somehow my mono install has gotten all f*cked up03:42
naliothreiki: i have some things 0777d, but that is me and i dont recommend it . i have had 0 problems tho03:42
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nybble!hp03:43
ubotuWish i knew, nybble03:43
naliothdabar: i DID say something03:43
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johnnybe1akwhat way would you recommend to reinstall it all?03:43
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dabarI mean, noone says good luck.03:43
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dabarOh.03:43
dabarI said wish, right.03:43
sybaritenthis is odd, i typed ifconfig but cant see a regular IP adress on eth0 ... it jsut has some ip6 adress in hex or something03:43
H4znNoUse: it already does it...03:43
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reikinalioth,  ok thanks. I'll do a little more research.03:43
buddyis there a networking wizard kind of like windows? I have a bunch of problems and have no idea where to start03:43
sybariten"lo" has an adress but its localhost 127.0.0.103:43
nybble!hplip03:43
ubotuNo idea, nybble03:43
Octanecan someone please tell me how i could reinstall the nvidia drivers in breezy? the package that is03:43
aleksybariten: do you have root privs?03:43
NoUseH4zn what kind of internet access do you have?03:43
sybaritenalek: yeah03:43
D1finally! got a linux compatible scanner!03:43
aleksybariten: dhcp server running on your network?03:43
nybbleOctane: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx03:44
Octanenybble that also removes the kernel03:44
sybariteni'm on DHCP too, this computer is normally 192.168.1.255 i believe03:44
nybbleOctane: and then sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx03:44
Octanei mean kernel-modules-whatever it is also removes the kernel03:44
sybaritenalek: yup :)03:44
nybblehuh?03:44
aleksybariten: to grab an IP, as root, try 'dhclient eth0'03:44
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H4zn  cable03:44
naliothreiki: i dont publicly recommend it, because it is a security flag. that doesnt mean it wont work just fine03:44
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sybaritenalek: that was a new one .... ok03:45
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NoUseH4zn you have to figure out how Windows is configured and configure Ubuntu in the same manner03:45
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reikinalioth,  understood03:45
buddyis there a networking channel on this server?03:45
KicoHi, can I install ubuntu on my computer using the Live CD?03:45
johnnybe1akbuddy: whats the matter?03:45
johnnybe1akKico: nope you need the install cd03:45
alekbuddy: what seems to be your prob?03:45
linuxpoetbuddy: what do you mean a networking channel03:45
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Kicotoo bad :(03:46
johnnybe1akdon't worry about that mono question i just reinstalled all my mono crap and it works again03:46
buddyjohnnybelak: I have two computers here i set up the excat same way except for the host name, One can see both win and linux shares, the other cant see either. Both ask for login and when i login it dosnt give an error just flashes the login screen over and over03:46
johnnybe1akKico: do you have broadband? you can just download the install cd03:46
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alekbuddy: that's a samba problem...03:46
johnnybe1akbuddy: so you can't connect the linux machine to the windows machine or the other way around03:47
buddylinuxpoet: #networking or somthing03:47
buddyone can the other cant03:47
alekbuddy: the network isn't your problem, it's your Samba configuration03:47
johnnybe1akbuddy: so you've got two linux machines wanting to connect to a windows machine is that right?03:47
buddyjohnnybelak: One can the other cant, and i have no idea about the password, i changed the share to 777 and ionly have one password03:47
sybaritenalek: i guess this is something that normally goes rather instantly03:47
aleksybariten: yes.03:48
buddyjohnnybelak: two linux machines to eaachother03:48
buddyalek: #samba right?03:48
H4znokay...thanks03:48
aleksybariten: if it doesn't work, try looking at your hardware layer.  see if you have a link and all that.03:48
alekbuddy: you'd be better off on google...they would probably flame.03:48
raviousim trying to mount a samba share from fstab, the problem is that the share name has a space in it, anyone know how to set that adjust the format to allow for a space?03:48
johnnybe1akbuddy: ok so you've got no windows machines03:48
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johnnybe1akbuddy: i don't mind trying to help03:48
alekbuddy: wait...you have no windows machines?03:48
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michaelhi again- anyone know where to find the w32codecs?03:48
aleki thought you said 1 linux, 1 windows03:48
alekmichael: mplayerhq.hu03:48
sybaritenalek: but now it just tries and tries ...  it repeats a line something like "DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3" ...03:49
buddyjohnnybelak and alex: I have one windows machine, but it's not important right now, i want my linux boxes to connect03:49
nybblewell03:49
nybbleoff to bed i go03:49
sybaritenchanging the interval03:49
nybblebye03:49
naliothmichael: www.mplayerhq.hu on the download page03:49
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buddy2 linux, 2 windows, 1 linux can see both windows and itself, other linux cant see anything03:49
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grgerhello03:49
grgeri have some issues i ned help with when you get a chane03:49
buddyboth have samba and nfs on03:49
johnnybe1akbuddy: ok can it see it? can you ping the machine you're trying to connect to?03:50
buddyjohnnybelak: i can ssh to it03:50
grgermy issue is03:50
raviousmichael: http://ubuntuguide.org/03:50
johnnybe1akbuddy: ok so it's not a networking problem03:50
alekhaha03:50
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alekanother ubuntuguide03:50
grgeri changed the home or whatever of my account... in attemtps to login as root.. to root03:50
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sybaritenso, i guess i'm giving this up for now ....03:50
grgerfrom  home..03:50
grgernow it crashes at log in03:50
raviousHe asked where to get the codecs..03:51
aleksybariten: did you check the network cable?03:51
Cheetahfoothas anyone seen the bill gates/napoleon dynamite movie?03:51
naliothchreeps03:51
sybaritenis there a way to start up ubuntu without having it go into gnome ?03:51
buddyjohnnybelak: no both have ip's and show up in my dhcp list, i can surf on both and ssh/ vnc on both03:51
nalioth!ubuntuguide03:51
ubotuhmm... ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.03:51
raviousThey are on the the website03:51
johnnybe1akbuddy: now you are trying to connect with samba from a linux machine onto you're other machines03:51
sybaritenalek: yeah but the problem is that it looks allright ... i have a LED lighting in my router03:51
buddyjohnnybelak: it has to do with the filesharing and permissions i think03:51
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naliothmichael: ravious: read the ubuntuguide factoid, please03:51
buddyjohnnybelak: yes03:51
aleksybariten: as root try ifconfig eth0 down then ifconfig eth0 up...then try your dhclient eth0 again03:52
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aleksybariten: man ifconfig may also help you immensely in setting your IP to static and trying it that way....it may be a communication problem with the dhcp server03:52
masterLoki/server irc.freenode.net03:52
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aleksybariten: ubuntu has a gui network setup tool as well...03:53
alekit could come in handy03:53
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sybaritentrhe ifconfig up and down, respectively, normally doesnt say much do they ?03:53
buddyIs there a gui filesharing tool?03:53
grgerany one have any ideas on my issue?03:53
alekthey don't say anything03:53
naliothbuddy: many of them03:54
alekgrger: repeat?03:54
grgerwell03:54
grgerin an attempt to give myself root privelege03:54
grgeri know nothing btw03:54
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michaelthanks nalioth, but as said, this doesn't work for breezy- unless you point it at hoary repositories03:54
dabarbuddy: know how to search in synaptic? I use gtk-gnutella03:54
grgeri changed the home or whatever of my account, liek the home ocation, roots is root, so i changed mine to root03:54
naliothmichael: www.mplayerhq.hu  on the download page03:54
grgerand it wont log in anymoe03:54
sybaritenok, thats cool then ... the dhclient says the same things though. it gives a complaint in the beginning too, although i dont know if its normal03:54
sybariten"sit0: unknown hardware adress type"03:54
buddydabar: i do, what should i look for03:54
alekgrger: that's because the /root directory is owned by root03:55
grgerhow do i change mine back?03:55
alekgrger: you should probably keep your home directory as /home/X/03:55
grgerfrom the terminal03:55
dabarbuddy: I even gave you a package name in the post...03:55
sybaritendoes the network setup tool run in console ?03:55
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grgeri can get a command pomt but thats it03:55
alekgrger: that's a tough one...lemme see03:55
H4znhow do i get root access?03:55
buddydabar: sorry, i thought that was a apt-get gui you used03:55
grgeryeah its a tough on e lol03:55
H4zni out in su but my pass did not work03:55
michaelconfigure the login manager to allow root login03:55
grgeri also would like to kno how to login as root once i fix this03:55
alekH4zn: you can use sudo to run applications as root, or you can get a root shell by typing sudo bash, or similar03:55
dabarbuddy: I see.03:55
LootBeerhow do u find where acertain directory is instaled? the path of directory??03:56
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grgeri did that and it says the root user cannot login form the login screen03:56
alekto log in as root, you need to change root's password, as it is set randomly by ubuntu03:56
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grgeri did03:56
grgerbut thats no the main issue riht now i cant log in at all03:56
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alekto do that, you need to log in as a user with sudo privs and run something like sudo passwd root03:56
michaelunless you do an expert install- then you set it03:56
johnnybe1akbuddy: are you using gnome?03:56
grgeri would like to simply get back to where iw as before i kiled i03:56
reikinalioth, permissions 01777 just means sticky bit set. Anyone can read/write but only own can delete their own files.03:56
dabar!tell H4zn about root03:56
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buddyjohnnybleak: yes03:57
lukins!faq03:57
ubotuhmm... faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)03:57
michaelgrger- i just had this problem! check to see if you are in the sudoers file!03:57
grgerthe issue is03:57
grgeri changed my hoem or whatever to root03:57
alekmichael: different problem03:57
linuxpoetHey how soon is the lovely new release?03:57
naliothreiki: sounds good.03:57
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michaeloh...03:57
alekhe changed his home folder to /root, and permissions on it won't let him read it03:57
naliothlinuxpoet: oct 1303:57
nickrudgrger, you can try sudo usermod -h /home/<the user name> <the user name>; that will reset the home directory03:57
alekso now he can't log to change his /home03:57
michaelewww03:57
aleknickrud: not valid if he can't log in03:57
naliothnickrud: back for more abuse, are ya?03:57
linuxpoetexcellent03:58
linuxpoetthanks03:58
sybaritenis there a really good way to reboot the computer withouyt having it trying to run gnome ?03:58
linuxpoetsudo reboot03:58
grgeri can get to the dos looking thing03:58
grgerthe prompt03:58
nickrudgrger, and, it has a major typo, and I thought he said he had a root login03:58
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sybaritenalek: ok i'll have to try some other things tomorrow, or something ....   thanks for trying to help!03:58
johnnybe1akhow good is f-spot? dammit some of these new mono apps are sweet03:58
H4znhow do i get my ip ad.?03:58
aleksybariten: np sorry i couldn't help more03:58
nickrudgrger, are you logged in as root?03:58
naliothjohnnybe1ak: it is free to use, go get it03:59
felipe_Hi grger, do you have the root password?03:59
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nickrudwhen you say the 'prompt', what exactly is that?03:59
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grgeri can get to the thing where it asks you to type in commands03:59
junk11341a03:59
grgerwill what that one guy says work?03:59
grgerterminal type thing04:00
alekgrger: yes04:00
grgerok groovy04:00
johnnybe1aknalioth: yeah I know, I just started playing around with it. it's awesome. i can't wait till it becomes a bit more stable04:00
foomanchewhello04:00
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johnnybe1akmono + gstreamer = sweet new gnome apps :)04:00
nickrudgrger, it's actually usermod -d /home/<the name> <the name>04:00
foomanchewanyone using SB live for sound with warty ?04:00
foomanchewI cannot get sound to work04:00
HrdwrBoBwarty?04:00
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HrdwrBoBwhy are you using warty04:01
HrdwrBoBthough it should work04:01
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nickrudnalioth, you handing out the abuse this evening ;)04:01
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IceDragonI get an error while trying to create a folder in my file:/// directory04:01
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alekIceDragon: have you read the manual yet?04:01
foomanchewsorry hedgehog04:01
grgernickrud04:01
H4znhow do i get my ip address?04:01
foomanchewifconfig04:01
alekIceDragon: cuz you ask the weirdest vaguest questions04:01
grgerwhatsmyip.com04:01
H4znwhat is the command?04:01
alekH4zn: ifconfig04:01
IceDragonI typed !faq but nothing happened04:01
H4znthankyou04:01
naliothnickrud: take a number and stand in line, lol04:02
IceDragonheh I'm good at that04:02
alekIceDragon: try ubuntulinux.com04:02
foomanchewsound issues in Hoary04:02
foomanchewhelp04:02
ChristianHrdwrBoB: why are you using warty <--- something wrong with that ?04:02
neighborleek well I could use some more kernel help ;( ie: kernel panic : not syncing: VFS : unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0),,,using ext3 and its set as 'y' in kernel config so that not it...any idears ? ;(04:02
grgeralek.. so what goes in the  areas he labeled the name?04:02
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grgerare they suposed to be there tswice?04:02
lordrigohello04:02
alekgrger: your username04:02
michaelahh warty... hardly knew ye04:02
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lordrigocomo cambio esta aplicacion a espaol??04:02
robotgeek!es04:02
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:02
michaelwow04:03
alekgrger: yes one is the directory, one is the actual user04:03
grgergroovy04:03
junk11341yea04:03
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grgerill be back shortly with succes or failrue info04:03
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zblachhey, is there something like windows slideshow viewer for ubuntu?04:03
alekgrger: so if your username is grger, it would be usermod -d /home/grger grger04:03
grgerok04:04
alekwith a sudo in front04:04
grgerwill it work no matter what priveleges i habve?04:04
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grgercause i dont knwow aht i may or mmay not have form that prompt04:04
alekno, you must run it as root, so make sure you sudo it04:04
grgeri dont get that part04:04
aleksudo usermod -d /home/grger grger04:04
alekthat's the command04:04
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grgerputting sudo in front makes it root?04:04
alekgrger: yes04:04
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Octanehas anyone here managed to fix the problem with fonts when starting X in breezy where it says font "fixed' not found04:05
grgerill be back to ask about nvidia drivers in a bit04:05
alekgrger: sudo executes the following command with root priviledges04:05
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grgernifty04:05
grgerlearn somethin new every day04:05
zblach?04:05
alekk i'm done breaking people, gonna go comatose for a few mins04:05
grgerno04:05
grgerwe need you mr guy04:05
junk11341baldwin04:06
aleki'm no expert, i actually came here with a problem about java and firefox in breezy04:06
alekheh04:06
junk11341he's gone04:06
anthonyI've been having trouble changing the permissions and owner of files.  I have an interchange partition for working with things in both Linux and windows, but I've found that when I make a file in Windows, put it in that partition, and boot Linux, it will only allow root to access the file with write permissions.  I've tried actually logging in as root (beyond just sudo and su -), and when I try to change permissions from the command04:06
anthonyline, it seems to work, but does not actually, and chown replies that it is unable to do that.04:06
steveO_OfficeHello all ? Do I need to make modifications to to the kernel to get ndiswrapper working? I apt-get the ndiswrapper and that should have been all that was needed correct?04:06
LootBeeri need to find where my mutlisync header is located, multisync.h..... pls hrelp, im installling synce!!??04:06
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anthonyAny ideas?04:06
junk11341what are the positives of running this over windows04:07
alekanthony: is this on an NTFS?04:07
anthonyNo, the partition is a FAT.04:07
durtsteve0_Office: you can only apt-get the source: now you have to compile it04:07
naliothjunk11341: hmmm 'no virus danger'04:07
johnnybe1aksteveO_Office: nope, there is a howto in the wiki for getting ndiswrapper to work, it tells you step by step how to do everything04:07
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anthonyHowever, the main drive of Windows is NTFS.  Would that matter?04:07
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steveO_Officejohnnybe1ak, Thanks04:08
johnnybe1aksteveO_Office: google ubuntu wiki ndiswrapper howto or something like that04:08
johnnybe1aksteveO_Office: np04:08
durtsteve0_Office: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu04:08
foomanchewok any one help with sound issues04:08
intelikeyanthony: it sounds like a mount issue.   rather than a file permissions issue.04:08
anthonyI can open and edit everything just fine if I login as root from the login screen, but nothing else works.04:08
orangedturning up the volume worked for me04:08
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steveO_OfficeGREAT HELP HERE!!! Thanks04:08
anthonyOkay, so what would I have to do about that?04:08
intelikeyanthony: what fs is the interchange partition04:09
anthonyIf possible I would like to mount that entire interchange partition with all files automatically set to full permissions for all users.04:09
lukinsfoomanchew are you on warty or hoary?04:10
anthonyFAT.04:10
IceDragonE: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)04:10
IceDragonE: Unable to lock the list directory04:10
IceDragon?04:10
ryanarpif anyone could help me that would be great please im me i am having trouble with ubuntu freezing  after logging in will not show desktop04:10
anthonyHoary.04:10
alekIceDragon: it's because you aren't running apt-get as root04:10
Octaneanyone else here get the error of missing font "fixed" when starting X?04:10
Octanein breezy04:10
alekIceDragon: i suggest you read the FAQ04:10
IceDragonhmm k04:10
MadpilotIceDragon: do you have Synaptic open as well?04:10
intelikeyanthony: add umask=000 to the line in /etc/fstab  that discribes that partition04:10
alekMadpilot: that's a different error04:10
foomanchewok sound help needed04:11
IceDragonI know I'm being a dunderhead, but where is the faq04:11
foomanchewpleeeez04:11
Madpilot!tell IceDragon about docs04:11
IceDragon!faq does not do... much...04:11
ubotuIceDragon: I give up, what is it?04:11
intelikeyanthony: you should "man fstab "  first.04:11
alekhaha04:11
orangedfoomanchew, whats wrong with your sound04:11
IceDragonoh mmm.... I'm a dunderhead04:11
foomanchewI have NForce 2 with onbaord sound04:11
foomanchewalso SB Live04:11
foomancheworanged, no sound04:11
foomanchewdead04:11
MadpilotIceDragon: did you get ubotu's msg?04:11
anthonyintelikey: Where on the line should that go?04:12
IceDragonyes Madpilot04:12
intelikeyanthony: you should "man fstab "  first.04:12
intelikeythat will explain it04:12
foomancheworanged, tried alot to get to work04:12
foomanchewworked under warty04:12
foomanchewbut no in hoary04:12
anthonyAll right, I'll take a look.04:12
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foomanchewweird04:12
orangedfoomanchew, what did you try?04:13
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foomancheworanged, alsa utils04:13
foomanchewshould I be using ALSA or ESD ?04:14
foomanchewor OSS04:14
foomanchewdang04:14
orangedfoomanchew; alsa for the sblive04:14
foomanchewok04:14
foomanchewis see /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps running04:14
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foomanchewI have used alsamixer to check levels04:15
whyameyeanybody here know anything about MIDI for ubuntu?04:15
snausagesi want to add the command "sudo shutdown -h now" to my desktop as a shortcut with my user password implemented, so i don't have to enter it every time i launch the shortcut04:15
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snausageshow can i do that04:15
lundnerhey04:15
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orangedfoomanchew; try turning all all the pcm channels? or was anything muted?04:16
neighborleewhere do I get the 'config' file for my current running kernel, so I can use it as reference for compiling new one ???04:16
intelikeysnausages: we kinda hope you can't04:16
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foomancheworanged, weird thing is alsa is showing my Nvidia nForce 2 as the card04:16
Octanei should hvae installed breezy by doing install ubuntu-desktop/base not by doing dist upgrade04:16
snausagesintelikey, why not?04:16
jdefseveas: nalioth told me to talk to you about a java problem04:16
lundneri want to get the irc running under gdesklets but it doesn't work can someone help me?!04:16
foomancheworanged, i expect to see SB Live ?04:16
snausagesi think it would be useful if i could, to shut down on the fly04:17
orangedfoomanchew, use alsamixer -c 104:17
intelikeysnausages: cause if you can then there is no security in sudo at all......04:17
foomancheworanged, how do I change it to use SB ?04:17
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snausagesintelikey, right, but how could i add the password to the shortcut?04:17
snausagesi'm the only person using this computer04:17
orangedfoomanchew, you can specify which card alsamixer controls04:17
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foomancheworanged, yes04:17
foomanchewcool04:17
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IceDragoncool04:18
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lundnernobody able to help me?!04:19
aleksnausages: gksudo shutdown04:19
intelikeysnausages: like i said you probably can not.   but you might try something like "echo <your_passwd> | sudo <command>  "    but i hope that that doesn't work either.   though i've never tried it.04:19
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intelikeytoo late.04:19
naliothlundner: whining isnt gettin your question answered04:19
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intelikeylag is bad.....04:19
alekdidn't want gksudo?04:19
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neonhola04:19
vigisAnyone have time for a question? Justinstalled Ubuntu...04:19
alekoh haha he left04:20
foomancheworanged, still no sound do I need to reset ?04:20
neonquien conose al danonex04:20
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alekvigis: shoot04:20
orangedfoomanchew; no need to reset04:20
gthello?04:20
lundneryou're right nalioth i'm going eating lots of chocolate04:20
gtdoes it show me as gt?04:20
lukins!es04:20
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:20
alekgt: we are all bots.04:20
junk11341ye04:20
apokryphoshi gt -- it sure does.04:20
foomanchewhim all is quiet04:20
naliothlundner: chocolate?04:20
gtalek you arent a boyt are you?04:20
alekgt: DOES NOT COMPUTE04:20
reikiwhat's this I'm reading about Evolution becoming NOVELL Evolution and no longer being free? Is there concern?04:20
gtbot*04:20
gti cant beleive you are a bot04:21
gtbtw04:21
junk11341me bot 204:21
gtthis si greg04:21
apokryphosgt: he's not =)04:21
anthonyintelikey: I looked in the man page, and unfortunately I don't really understand it, nor did I see any mention of "umask".  I'm guessing this information is all in there, but I'm missing it somehow.04:21
buddyis there a way to run everything as root for a session, I an using shared folders and i get error: failed to run shares-admin as user root child terminated with 207 status04:21
ryanarphi04:21
gtgood lol04:21
intelikey x -gt y04:21
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intelikey! x -gt y04:21
alekbuddy: you could log on as root.04:21
ubotuintelikey: Syntax error in line 104:21
intelikeylol04:21
gthwo do i log in s root?04:21
buddyi thought ubuntu didnt have a root accout or somthing04:21
orangedfoomanchew, did alsamixer display the levels for a sblive card with the -c 1 switch?04:21
gtit tells me that root cant log in from the lolgin screen04:21
vigisI just went through the installation procedure and realised that i never got to set a root password during it?04:21
apokryphosgt: there should be no need to ever login as root. Why do you want to?04:21
alekgt: you must first change the root password.04:21
foomancheworanged, yes04:21
intelikeygt you will have to set the root passwd first.04:22
anthonyUbuntu does have a root, it can just be tricky to get at it.04:22
alekgt: but it can be dangerous.04:22
nalioth!tell gt about sudo04:22
orangedfoomanchew; do you have a pcm digital channel?04:22
intelikeysudo passwd04:22
lukinsvigis congratulations you've installed ubuntu correctly, read ubuntuguide.org04:22
alekut oh04:22
vigisthanks04:22
naliothlukins: please dont do that04:22
foomancheworanged, I see a PCM channel04:22
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alekhaha04:22
ryanarpubuntu boots to the login screen and lets me log in but right after i log in and it is in the process of loading the desktop it freezes my sound is working but my touchpad mouse is not working on my laptop please help04:22
gtget windows04:23
alekryanarp: is this an athlon 64 laptop?04:23
foomancheworanged, the PCM level is 6804:23
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apokryphosgt: eh?04:23
junk11341gt with tech support right out from a one walled garage04:23
ryanarpues04:23
ryanarpyes04:23
orangedfoomanchew; you know that you can use the right arrow to scroll through the channels?04:23
johnnybe1akryanarp: do you have any other wm's installed04:23
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foomancheworanged, I did and I set all to mid point04:23
gtllol04:23
alekryanarp: there are known issues with several compaq and hq laptops running the new ATI chipset.  you're pretty much out of luck at this point.04:23
foomanchewthen esacpoed04:23
G2Hello!04:23
gtinside inside04:23
apokryphoshi there04:23
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orangedfoomanchew, try muting the pcm channel04:24
anthonyintelikey: Any more suggestions if I don't understand the man?04:24
gtgo away g2.... your name is too similer to my own04:24
alekryanarp: i believe FC4 is running smoothly, but i have yet to find anything else that runs...including gentoo.04:24
junk11341 lol04:24
ryanarpok04:24
junk11341 IF YA GET PAID TO GIVE TECH SUPPORT HERE< GIMME A HELL YA04:24
ryanarphow do you install gentoo04:24
ryanarpi have so many problems04:24
alekhaha04:25
intelikeyanthony: put "umask=000" next to the last entry in the line in fstab04:25
G2I want remove the realplayer ,could you tell me how to do it? thank U04:25
reikinalioth, final update (I promise). To get file lock working for Thunderbird to read local /var/mail I did sudo chmod o+wt /var/mail ... this just set the sticky bit and left the permissions alone otherwise. It works! :)04:25
apokryphosjunk11341: what are you talking about? Please don't shout.04:25
alekryanarp: gentoo doesn't work...have a look at Fedora Core 404:25
rukuarticI'm gonna get paid for wiping drives =D04:25
naliothreiki: thank you for the info04:25
durtryanarp: i would try booting into recovery mode and running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:25
nickrudjunk11341, I don't believe so; paid support is done somewhere else, I think04:25
rukuarticdd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda104:25
apokryphosnickrud: correct04:25
ryanarpis there anyone who has a easy how to on installing gentoo04:25
alekryanarp: http://fedora.redhat.com/04:25
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alekryanarp: http://www.gentoo.org/04:25
apokryphosryanarp: erm, you're in #ubuntu04:26
ricbithello, I'm a n00b, first time using ubuntu, can anyone help me configure a nat?04:26
buddywhen i tried to login as root, it said system administrator cannot log in from this screen04:26
naliothryanarp: try #gentoo04:26
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robotgeekryanarp: the guides are pretty detailed, should be easy to follow thru if u can print them out04:26
intelikeyanthony: /dev/hdc1 /mnt/disk vfat  defaults,umaks=000 0 0  <--- something along that line.04:26
alekricbit: as in network address translation?04:26
foomancheworanged, there used to be a sblive config04:26
ricbityes, nat for sharing my internet connection to my mom's machine04:26
robotgeek!tell buddy about sudo04:26
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alekricbit: do you ahve 2 network cards?04:26
buddydoes sudo work only for one command04:26
buddyor does it keep you as root?04:27
apokryphosbuddy: you can use sudo -s04:27
intelikeyonly the one command04:27
apokryphosbuddy: ...for the equivalent of a root shell04:27
rukuarticQuestion: Anyone want to help me set up ttyS4? My modem's on it and I can't use it because it only supports up to ttyS3...04:27
ricbityes I do04:27
nickrudbuddy, a sudo session lasts about 15 minutes, I think04:27
ricbitbut I tried a lot of scripts with iptables and none worked. I can ping my mom's machine and she can ping me, but that's all, only pings in the internat network04:27
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buddywhat if i wanted it to stay root while i worked in the gui04:27
intelikeyif the command is something interactive then that is running as root04:27
rob_pricbit:  Here's a NAT how-to for Ubuntu:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/28/76/04:27
lukinsfoomanchew, when u righclick on the volume icon and choose pref, do you see both soundcards listed?04:27
buddyawesome04:27
orangedfoomanchew, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/  search the forums for sblive.. theres mutiple how-tos for solving sound problems04:27
alekricbit: try googleing for ubuntu internet gateway04:28
naliothbuddy: not a good idea to log into a gui as root. it can munge your userspace04:28
alekricbit: there is a page that details it pretty well04:28
durtbuddy: you could do sudo whatever-you-want-to-run04:28
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intelikeysudo bash   is a poor mans root access.04:28
robotgeekbuddy: there's probably not much u can do logged in as root04:28
ricbitthanks people, I'm going to follow the guidelines, if I find some trouble I guess I'll be back04:28
aleki bet he could do alot logged in as root04:28
johnnybe1akintelikey: or just sudo -s :)04:28
aleklike break stuff04:28
alekricbit: good luck.04:29
anthonyintelikey: Okay, I've done that and saved it.04:29
intelikey-s == shell04:29
robotgeekbuddy: i meant like the gui04:29
alekintelikey: not if you don't want to use bash!04:29
alek:D04:29
aleksudo zsh!04:29
intelikeyanthony: umount <mount_point_of_that_partition>04:29
intelikeyanthony: then      mount <mount_point_of_that_partition>04:29
buddydurt: when i use shared folders, and i click ok it says failed to run shares-admin as user root:child terminated with 207 status04:30
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orangedfoomanchew, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753&highlight=sblive+sound04:30
johnnybe1akintelikey: yeah :)04:30
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foomancheworanged, thx04:30
anthonyintelikey: [mntent] : line 7 in /etc/fstab is bad04:31
anthonymount: can't find /interchange in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab04:31
rukuarticAnyone got info about how to make ttyS4 work?04:31
anthonyThat didn't look good; what did I do?04:32
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buddyhas anyone else had the error while using the shared folders "filed to run shares-admin as user root: child terminated with 207 status04:32
intelikeymsg me the content of /etc/fstab  line 7  anthony:04:32
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anthonyintelikey: /dev/sda5       /interchange    vfat    defaults        umask=000       0       004:33
anthonyWait a minute, I was supposed to put defaults-comma-umask, wasn't I?04:33
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hou5tonIs there an easy way to upgrade from Hedgehog to Badger without a reinstall?04:33
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nalioth!tell hou5ton about upgrade2breezy04:34
zdennisDoes anyone know what the "V" the "+"  and other symbols mean when running abcde ?04:34
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sportmanhey04:34
sportmani love ubuntu, but i feel so limited by its packages04:35
sportmann e suggestions04:35
dabarsportman: how so limited?04:35
hou5tonok .... now ... if I haven't installed yet, should I go ahead and just put Badger on my laptop?04:35
apokryphossportman: there are 16000+ packs. Limited?04:35
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sportmanor restricted04:35
durtbuddy, you might want to put your user name after root in /etc/groups, but i dont know what im talking about04:35
zdennislike what?04:35
alekhou5ton: be aware breezy is still in development04:35
=== sportman is used to the portage system and is wondering if he can do something similar to portage under unbuntu
hou5tonhow much longer?04:36
rukuartichoary hedgehog sounds so wrong...04:36
rukuarticmy mind's been in the gutter far too l ong.04:36
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alekas long as it takes04:36
buddydurt, i have no idea how to get around this error, it looks like i have to log in as root, but ubuntu dosnt have root and i dont know how to run this as root04:36
=== apokryphos does prefer "Breezy"
H4zni need serious help with ubuntu04:36
=== robotgeek too!
apokryphosand think it would take quite some time to warm to Dapper. Hah.04:36
intelikeygray heared porcupine = hoary hedgehog04:37
Octaneanyone else here get the error of missing font "fixed" when starting X?04:37
zdennissportman, portage === gentoo?04:37
sportmanyea04:37
intelikeyerr haired ^04:37
sportmanlol04:37
sportmanbut is there a way to set something similar up04:37
sportmanso i can compile everything from source?04:37
zdennisdownload debian source packages04:37
naliothsportman: if you desire, yes04:37
zdennisand compile your own04:37
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sportmanwow this sux :( my external dvd drive can boot the unbuntu live cd04:38
dabarsportman: I dont often find that packages are not available. are you sure you have universe, and multiverse enabled?04:38
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sportmanbut wont boot the unbuntu installer04:38
yellowroseHi! How can i have a permission like this srwxrwxrwx? What parameters will I use with chmod?04:38
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sportmananyone find that odd?04:38
alekyellowrose: 77704:38
zdennisintelikey, download them and burn them to disc?04:39
gtwhat the heck does alll that mean?04:39
dabaryellowrose: that is very bad, at least looks very bad. why have that?04:39
gtsrxsrcsrx04:39
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intelikeyzdennis: on dialup ?????   lol04:39
alekmeans global read write execute04:39
zdennisintelikey, oh wow04:39
yellowrosealek: that would only give me rwxrwxrwx no s04:39
zdennisintelikey, that woudl suck04:39
gti see04:39
alekyellowrose: is the s important?04:39
pepsitheres a dot on my display.. 4x4 pixels.. if i right click on the dot, i get no contextual menu, otherwise i get the desktop's context menu04:39
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dabaryellowrose: why have a command with superuser powers, and rwx by all?04:39
yellowroses is important. i am duplicating the permission in one file04:40
dabarpepsi: did you switch to ubuntu from debian?04:40
alekyellowrose: 177704:40
pepsino04:40
bob2yellowrose: what are you setting?04:40
dabarlater.04:40
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pepsibreezy though04:40
gtisnt ubuntu debian?04:40
bob2yellowrose: you're opening a very serious security hole there04:40
gtbased or soemthing?04:40
bob2gt: no04:40
zdennissportman, yes that is kind of odd04:40
bob2gt: it is based on it, indeed04:40
yellowrosealek: thanks, i'll try it now.04:40
gtso is dsl righ?04:40
bob2gt: apparently04:40
alekyellowrose: come back when you break it.   cya.04:40
sportmanand they are the ones u get free from the ubuntu website04:40
zdennisyou dont have an internal cd or dvd drive?04:40
sportmanso i dunno wtf is up04:40
sportmanno i dont04:41
ricbitpeople, I managed to get the nat to work, thanks for the help!04:41
bob2yellowrose: this is a very very bad idea04:41
sportmanonly one ide socket on my mobo04:41
gtok so how do i instal drivers for my fx5200 guys?04:41
bob2sportman: did you see if it's ok or not?04:41
gtive got them dled04:41
robotgeekgt: i am on dsl!04:41
bob2gt: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:41
gtyou are?04:41
bob2gt: this is in the FAQ04:41
zdennissportman, that seems really weird, because it is your BIOS that is in charge of allowing you to boot from external devices04:41
sportmanbob2 if what is ok?04:41
zdennisthe boot loader on the cd doesn't care04:41
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robotgeekgt: yup04:41
theblueHi all.04:41
robotgeekhi04:41
zdennisas long as it gets called properly04:41
bob2sportman: the CD04:41
theblueIs there a specific release date for Breezy yet?04:41
yellowrosealek: 1777 did not do it rwxrwxrwt04:41
sportmanand zdennis04:41
intelikeylet him go let him go.... it's his box.   if he/she don't want any security on it.  that's not our problem.04:42
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sportmanit shows the dvd rom drive04:42
bob2theblue: there has been for 12 months04:42
zdennisdid you check the md5 sum when you downloaded the iso?04:42
sportmani have booted installers through it b404:42
thebluebob2: I mean an exact day.04:42
thebluebob2: I know its in early october.04:42
sportmanlike i installed gentoo yesterday04:42
apokryphostheblue: see /topic04:42
sportmanusing the external dvd rom drive04:42
theblueOh.04:42
zdennissportman, it *isn't * the installer04:42
alekyellowrose: i'm not gonna open this door...04:42
bob2intelikey: advising people who don't really know what they are doing that something is dangerous is important04:42
theblueThank you, bob2.04:42
alekyellowrose: maybe someone else can help you04:42
sportmanwhat isnt the installer dennis?04:43
sportmanits one of the cd's that are shipped04:43
sportmanits not like a bad iso file04:43
bob2sportman: it could still be damaged; check the md5sum04:43
zdennissportman, what you are saying doesn't make any logical sense.04:43
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yellowrosetried everything from 0-7 but no success04:43
rukuarticbob2: Or you could just let the problem fix it self... ;D bash...04:43
zdennissportman, the cd is either bootable or not, if you're BIOS can boot from the device, the cd will boot04:44
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sportmanlol04:44
sportmandude04:44
zdennissportman, it's not like the cd gets an option04:44
sportmansimple as this04:44
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zdennissportman and decides not to boot04:44
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sportmanits just fucked up04:44
bz0bhey all04:44
zdennissportman, download another iso04:44
sportmanlook bios sees the drive04:44
apokryphoshi04:44
sportmani have booted off the external usb drive04:44
zdennissportman, i got that part. i think your disk is messed04:44
intelikeyyes bob2 but it was said several times already, and some poeple just don't care.    me for one.  i've heard the security speaches so many times i now set my ircuser name to root just to laugh at the people that try to force me to logout of root.....   you never know what the other guy is thinking.04:45
theblueXD.04:45
sportmanlol, then the website shipped me bad disks04:45
theblueintelikey: I agree with you wholly.04:45
bob2yellowrose: what are you trying to do?04:45
sportmancause it boots the live cd fine04:45
bob2sportman: so, go check the CD04:45
theblueAs long as the person knows that they are doing something insecure, you should let them do it.04:45
bob2sportman: and see if that is the problem or not04:45
zdennissportman, do you have any other computer nearby to where you could boot the cd?04:45
zdennissportman,  just to see if it boots04:45
sportmannope04:45
sportman:(04:45
sportmanstupid dvd drive on my laptop is busted04:46
bob2sportman: do you have an existing linux installation you can boot?04:46
sportmanand the bios on my laptop dont support booting external usb cd drives04:46
sportmanumm i did :(04:46
zdennissportman, so you have access to 1 machine whereve you are? There is no person within a 100 yards that owns a computer that you could ask if you could see if a disk worked?04:46
sportmanthere is04:46
sportmanbut id have to leave my room04:46
theblueoy.04:46
sportmanwhich means getting grounded04:46
theblueoy vey.04:47
bz0bargh04:47
rukuarticO_o;04:47
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sportmancause im not supposed to be up past 10:0004:47
sportmanlol04:47
sportmaneven though im 1604:47
theblueoy gevalt.04:47
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HrdwrBoBpast 10? damn04:47
sportmanhmm04:47
sportmanyea04:47
rukuarticsportman: so you're eastern?04:47
sportmanyes04:47
HrdwrBoBsportman: your problem is not a technical one04:47
sportmanwhat is it?04:47
bob2sportman: then tommorow you can check if the CD is ok or not04:47
HrdwrBoBsportman: a logistical one04:48
sportmany so?04:48
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johnnybe1aksportman: life's a bitch hey :)04:49
thebluejohnnybe1ak: Language, plizz.04:49
othernoobfor some reason i believe it's not just logistical...04:49
johnnybe1aktheblue: sorry mate :)04:49
sportmandamn id kick u04:50
sportmanim used to being op[04:50
sportman;-P04:50
sportmanlol04:50
thebluejohnnybe1ak: S'ok.04:50
aleknight all04:50
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sportmannot on freenode though04:50
sportmanlol04:50
johnnybe1aksportman: i was only mucking round :)04:50
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sportman;)04:50
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gtcould someone walk em through installign the linux drivers from nvidia.com04:50
theblueIsn't that in multiverse?04:50
vladuz976how can i get rid of gdm and use startx to log in?04:50
bob2gt: please just read the wiki page I pointed you at04:51
zdennissportman, you would kick him from the room because he said life's a bit?04:51
rukuarticAnywho... does anyone have advice about switching from windows to linux? I'm doing it... and the biggest problem i'm having is not being able to access the net.04:51
bob2vladuz976: sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S*gdm ; sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop04:51
gtthen dont switch04:51
gtuse both04:51
thebluerukuartic: Hang on.04:51
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vladuz976bob2, that leaves it on the system but doesn't use it?04:51
wmknoxIf possible, could someone help me with some issues I'm having with sound?04:51
rukuarticgt: I wanna learn linux... its gonna come to the point where I don't want to run the nasty crap MS is putting out.04:52
bob2vladuz976: yes04:52
bob2wmknox: it's easier if you just ask your question straight up04:52
apokryphosvladuz976: you can just manually remove the package, if you really have to.04:52
johnnybe1akzdennis: he was only mucking round i think04:52
sportmanguess what it was the cd that they sent me04:52
thebluerukuartic: /msg me and I'll give you lots of info.04:52
vladuz976apokryphos, i can keep it if bob2 's method works04:52
apokryphossure04:52
sportmani found another copy in my 3 spindles of 50 cd;s04:52
sportmanit works04:52
OrunitiaHow can I mount a ntfs drive from a live cd?04:52
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intelikeyinvoke-rc.d  hmmmmm when was that added ?   or is it a deb config script ?04:53
h0sl3rAnyone know of any good sock 5 proxy?04:53
Orunitiasportman: well I just need to read it, not write04:53
wmknoxI have a sound card, an Audiotrak Maya 7.1 that isn't detected or supported apparently, as device manager displays it as unknown. So I switched to internal sound, which I can hear output, but many applications won't give any sound at all.04:53
sportmanhmm04:53
sportmanare u booted now?04:53
Orunitiayes. well, I'm trying to help a friend04:54
intelikeydid you "man mount " ?04:54
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rukuartictheblue: can you see my /msg?04:54
bob2intelikey: maybe 6 years ago?04:54
thebluerukuartic: You didn't say anything.04:54
thebluerukuartic: You need to do /msg TheBlue and then your message.04:55
rukuartictheblue: ... gah.04:55
johnnybe1akdoes anyone know the syntax for imagemagick's resize off the top of their head im struggling with the (inadequate) man page04:55
johnnybe1akdoes anyone know the syntax for imagemagick's resize off the top of their head im struggling with the (inadequate) man page04:55
intelikeybob2: ah then it is a deb config script.04:55
rukuartictheblue: GAIM isn't the best for IRC. But its all I've got.04:55
sportmanhmm04:55
sportmanlets see04:55
thebluerukuartic: I see.04:55
bob2wtf04:55
robotgeekrukuartic: what abt irssi or schat?04:55
theblueruku is on Windoze.04:55
rukuarticrobotgeek: dialup on windows.04:55
theblueHe wants to switch.04:55
theblueOY!04:55
theblueDialup?04:55
rukuarticT_T;04:55
thebluerukuartic: Please tell me its not AOHell.04:55
rukuartictheblue: I'm not that unl33t.04:56
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thebluerukuartic: Whew.04:56
nickrudintelikey, more like a generally accepted tool for debian to use04:56
pr0tocolwhats going on people04:56
robotgeekrukuartic: :)04:56
pr0tocol:)04:56
thebluerukuartic: Got AIM?04:56
thebluerukuartic: or ICQ?04:56
thebluerukuartic: Or any of those fun things?04:56
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geyzerls04:56
rob_where can i find an FAQ for evolution?04:56
rukuartictheblue: Running w2k sp4... 8th reformat so far... my HD keeps on failing.04:56
rukuartictheblue: AIM me at RukuArtic04:56
thebluerukuartic: Ok.04:56
pr0tocollisten, guys, I have a question.  I ALMOST got X working on Breezy but I'm still getting one error04:56
pr0tocolits telling me /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a:fbmmx.o  NO SYMBOLS FOUND (what does this mean?)04:57
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intelikeynickrud: that's what i said.   like mcc is a mdk config script   and  anaconda is a rh install script.    it is distro specific.04:57
pr0tocoland that /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved04:58
robotgeekpr0tocol: it's better to paste the whole /var/log/xorg.log to pastebin04:58
pr0tocolany ideas?04:58
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robotgeekpr0tocol: disable dri and try again04:58
pr0tocolhmm04:58
pr0tocolok04:58
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nickrudintelikey, more like a tool one of those would use. So that anyone making a config script knows everyone else is using the same tool.04:58
Kyttenhi04:58
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Kyttencan anybody helps me to find my modem chipset04:59
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pr0tocolrobotgeek: nope04:59
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intelikeysemantics.04:59
nevynKytten: run lspci using the livecd?04:59
vladuz976bob2: can you explain the command you gaveto me to stop gdm real fast?04:59
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pr0tocolrobotgeek: think I should disable GLCore too?04:59
Kytteni tried the scanmodem script and it gave me this smartlinck dirvers support this modem 10B9:545A  ALI545A SL180104:59
jjazzI would like to use a key combo other than alt-tab to switch windows.  Is this possible in Gnome?05:00
Kyttendoes that's helps05:00
cyphasewhy is it that for some wmv files, totem plays only video and VLC plays only audio?05:00
robotgeekjohnnybe1ak: try convert --help | less05:00
wmknoxI don't suppouse anyone can help me then?05:00
bob2vladuz976: it didn't work?05:00
robotgeekpr0tocol: keep that on there, and if it fails, remove it too :)05:00
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intelikeyvladuz976: /etc/init.d/gdm stop    will stop gdm too.05:00
vladuz976bob2: it did, but i just wanna know what it did, to understand05:00
pr0tocolrobotgeek: well I tried both...and no luck... I'm wondering what could be the problem.  I'm seeing the NVIDIA logo with a quick flash but then it just dies.05:01
bimberijjazz: sure, System -> Prefs -> Keyboard Shortcuts05:01
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bob2vladuz976: first bit removed gdm fro mthe boot system, second stopped the currently running copy05:01
cefwell, apart from Xorg being confused with my video setup, breezy upgrade went well05:01
robotgeekpr0tocol: can u post the xorg.log?05:01
pr0tocolrobotgeek: how do I do that?05:02
vladuz976bob2: thanks, cool, how is that different from what intelikey told me?05:02
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putnamehere I dont understand. When i click on network, it asks me to log in, what am i supposed to login to, i tried root/pass and user/pass and it just keeps bringing up the log in any ideas?05:02
intelikeyin the actually stopping of the running gdm it isn't different vladuz97605:03
bob2vladuz976: I don't know what intelikey said05:03
bob2putnamehere: "click on network"?05:03
jjazzbimberi, ok... I'm seriously stupid.  I looked through the list of things I could change and didn't see it.  Then you told me to look there, so I looked again and found it.  Thanks.05:03
intelikeyvladuz976: /etc/init.d/gdm stop    will stop gdm too.05:03
intelikey^05:03
SymGeosisputnamehere, try your password for your current account.05:03
Kyttenguys anybody help me pls05:03
putnameherebob2, i click on places-network servers05:04
bimberijjazz: sometimes you just need to know that it *is* there :)05:04
robotgeekpr0tocol: one moment05:04
putnameheresymgosis, i tired both current accout and root05:04
bob2Kytten: so install the smartlink drivers05:04
Kytteni don't know it05:04
bob2Kytten: then say that05:04
bob2instead of making vague comments05:04
Kyttenand i don't from where to get it05:04
jjazzbimberi, yep.  I'm coming into this box via FreeNX from a Windows machine, and every time I hit alt-tab, it pops me out to Windows.  Now I can alt-grave between windows.  And I thank you for that.05:04
Kytteni tried the scanmodem script and it gave me this smartlinck dirvers support this modem 10B9:545A  ALI545A SL180105:04
SymGeosisputnamehere, unless you changed your sudo password it should be your current password.05:04
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bob2ignore scanmodem, whatever that is05:05
bimberijjazz: hp :)05:05
Kyttenthat's what i got , and i can't figure out what is that05:05
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bimberijjazz: *np :)05:05
SymGeosisputnamehere, just your password.05:05
jjazz:)05:05
mazemanhi, I am looking for a VPN client (IPSEC,PSK) is there any for ubuntu?05:05
putnameheresymgosis, i changed my sudo password, but it is the same as my current user, would that make a diffrent05:05
bob2Kytten: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installsmartlinkdriver05:05
bob2you can't change your "sudo password"05:05
vladuz976is ubuntu pretty good about recognizing hardware of soundcards. coz my microphone thing doesn't work05:05
putnameheresymgeosis, i used my pas and it comes up agian and agian05:05
gthow do i turn of x windows?05:05
gtso i can instal the nvidia drivers?05:05
bob2gt: dude05:05
Madpilot!nvidia05:06
ubotunvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia05:06
gtdoes it say there?05:06
bob2gt: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto05:06
pr0tocolgt, just hit ctrl-alt-F205:06
bob2gt: you do not need to stop X05:06
jjazzmazeman, I believe ipsec is available, as I have a colleague at work who uses it with Ubuntu and I don't think he built it himself or anything like that.05:06
gtthe drivers tell em i do05:06
bob2gt: read that page already, you could have been done by now05:06
jjazzmazeman, Try apt-cache search ipse05:06
SymGeosisputnamehere, that's odd then.05:06
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bob2gt: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto05:06
durtdo the nvidia binaries work better than nvidia-glx?05:06
jjazzmazeman: *ipsec even05:06
bob2durt: no05:06
durtk05:06
putnameheresymgeosis, it does it with both of my ubuntu machines05:06
vladuz976bob2: what is the command to start gnome?05:06
bob2durt: sometimes they're needed for newer hardware, but not often05:06
bob2vladuz976: startx...05:06
cefanyone got any hints on getting generic chipset tv cards that don't have a card ID going?05:07
intelikey<bob2> you can't change your "sudo password" <---- are you saying that there is no way to change the password of the primary users account ?05:07
vladuz976bob2: no, i have englightenment in my .xinitrc05:07
pr0tocolgeez...this one little problem...almost have it fixed and something is fscking me up..05:07
mazemanjjazz: thx , but I was looking for a GUI ... ubuntu has OpenSwan available but the setup is hard05:07
vladuz976bob2: i just don't know the executable for gnome05:07
cyphasewhy is it that for some wmv files, totem plays only video and VLC plays only audio?05:07
SymGeosisputnamehere, all dialogue boxes for passwords are an extension of sudo. So whatever your password is for sudo, it should be the same.05:07
bob2vladuz976: a) don't use .xinitrc, b) startx gnome-session05:07
bob2intelikey: of course you can, but "sudo password" makes no sense05:07
naliothvladuz976: gnome-session, i believe05:07
vladuz976bob2: oh wait it should say in my /usr/share/xsession/gnome.desktop file05:07
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jjazzmazeman, Depending on what you're trying to accomplish, freenx might be what you need.  (I'm using it now to remotely get into a box across town)05:08
putnameheresymgeois, thas what i thought, but it dosnt work, sudo from the command line works fine, andi can log in as root, but from the network popup it dosnt work05:08
intelikeysudo passwd  makes sense  :)05:08
jjazzmazeman, It's not VNC, though.05:08
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jjazzmazeman, It's a different protocol.05:08
steveO_OfficeThanks alot for the links on the ndiswrapper got it working I was missing the correct drivers grrrrr realtek WTF google is are friend....05:08
wmknoxI have a sound card, an Audiotrak Maya 7.1 that isn't detected or supported apparently, as device manager displays it as unknown. So I switched to internal sound, which I can hear output, but many applications won't give any sound at all. - Can anyone help me at all?05:08
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bob2Kytten: do not /msg me05:09
mazemanjjazz, i'll check it out thx05:09
pr0tocolI have the worst luck in history, I tell ya..05:09
bob2Kytten: if you have a problem understanding those instructions, explain which bit is cofusing, in here05:09
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Kytteni couldent find smartlink driver on that page u gave me05:09
Kyttencan u give me the plug05:10
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SymGeosisputnamehere, try starting it from the command line. Only first use the command sudo -s05:10
Kyttendo download that driver05:10
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jjazzmazeman, if you want to apt-get it, you'll need to add deb http://ubuntulinux.nl/ / to your sources.  And then on the client side, you'll need to download the .deb client from the nomachine website.05:10
bob2Kytten: no, read that page again05:10
pr0tocolbob2: you know anything about a "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved" error?05:10
bob2Kytten: it goes to EXACTLY the right section of the page05:10
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bob2pr0tocol: that sounds like someone installed broken stuff from outside ubuntu05:10
steveO_OfficeNow that we got this working on my test laptop we will load Ubuntu on my production laptop hehe the ? is will I end up having THurs. off lol05:11
pr0tocoloutside ubuntu?05:11
drfunkreal quick - anyone know a good walkthrew of using ndiswrapper or an easier way of running my wifi broadcom setup on my zd7000 pavilion?05:11
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steveO_Officedrfunk, yes just got it going05:11
bob2drfunk: is it too late to get a refund?05:12
SymGeosisdrfunk, the ubunti wiki is pretty good.05:12
bob2if so, read the wiki05:12
bimberiubotu tell drfunk about ndiswrapper05:12
pr0tocolbob2: when you say 'outside ubuntu', are you referring to the possibity of a manual install of some sort?05:12
jjazzdrfunk, the man page is pretty good, btw05:12
bob2pr0tocol: or non-main packages05:12
Yawgmoth7Im having trouble installing something called flex, im trying to install it because something called libpcap said it needed it05:12
intelikeywiki == ?05:12
bob2drfunk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto05:12
Yawgmoth7Here is the error that libpcap gave me05:12
steveO_Officedrfunk, if you wish pm me and I can walk you though it05:12
bob2Yawgmoth7: why are you compiling libpcap?05:12
bob2Yawgmoth7: do not paste in here05:13
pr0tocolbob2: I just did an "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" and I got that error05:13
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pr0tocolright after I tried to start X05:13
bob2pr0tocol: on breezy? using binary X drivers?05:13
Yawgmoth7o_O05:13
Yawgmoth7What05:13
bob2Yawgmoth7: why on earth are you compiling libpcap?05:13
drfunkdoes ubuntu have the kernel source already installed   thats my main question because if not then its like fedora and suse and needs it installed - the reason I thought it would be better is because I thought it came with the source installed05:13
bob2Yawgmoth7: it's in ubuntu already, as is flex, as is probably whatever thing you're really trying to compile05:13
bob2Yawgmoth7: so, take a step back and tell us what you're trying to do05:14
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mik3wooooot05:14
pr0tocolbob2: yup on breezy.  I removed the nvidia-glx drivers and installed them again.  I get the NVIDIA logo when I startx, but it just flashes and goes bye-bye05:14
Yawgmoth7Ok hold on real quick05:14
bob2pr0tocol: file a bug if no on else has05:14
bob2drfunk: no, it does not have it installed, since it would be pointless05:14
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bob2drfunk: why would you want the kernel source?05:14
steveO_Officedrfunk, just apt-get ndisrwapper thin install your winshit drivers05:14
ch3o_)05:14
pr0tocolhmm...what to do, what to do05:15
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Toma-is there a weird permissions thing with sudo and /proc? i get a permission denied when i try to change a /proc file05:15
pr0tocolI'm screwed...05:15
jjazzpr0tocol, do you have nonstandard repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list?05:15
bob2pr0tocol: file a bug, or breezy will be release and not be usable05:15
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bob2Toma-: and the name of the file is...05:15
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Toma-/proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss05:15
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bob2Toma-: let me guess, 'sudo echo something >  /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss'?05:15
pr0tocoljjazz: nope.  All I have are ubuntu reps including ubuntu backports05:15
Toma-thats the one05:15
pr0tocolfrom hoary, though.05:16
Kytteni have another broblem bob2 once i start ubuntu it's dosent fit whol screen it's gives me half the desktop and somtimes works good and and my desktop shaking (my desktop not fitting the whol screen just half)05:16
bob2Toma-: that runs echo with root priveleges, but it's your shell that does the actual redirection05:16
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bob2Toma-: echo something | sudo tee /proc/asound/blah05:16
Kiwi__Anybody here ever made any klik cmgs?05:16
bob2is "lkik cgs" really a phrase?05:16
Toma-thanks bob205:16
Yawgmoth7Ok05:16
steveO_Officeubuntu blow the Fuck out of suse wow How sweet it is....05:16
Yawgmoth7Im trying to install ethereal05:16
jjazzpr0tocol, I don't know much about backports (I'm a long-time Debian user whose been using Ubuntu for a few weeks).  Could using backports packages cause incompatibilities?05:16
Kiwi__bob2 - i like to think it is05:16
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bob2steveO_Office: language, please05:17
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steveO_Office:)05:17
bob2Yawgmoth7: ethereal is in ubuntu, you don't need to compile it05:17
Yawgmoth7>:(05:17
pr0tocoljjazz: I really doubt it, being that it's backports from the actual distro.05:17
bob2Yawgmoth7: remove all the source just got, then run 'sudo aptitude install ethereal'05:17
pr0tocoljjazz: had it been from another distro, maybe05:17
bob2Yawgmoth7: basically everything is in ubuntu, you very rarely need to compile anything05:17
Yawgmoth7Thank you, i really dont know much about linux05:17
koshaAnyone know how I can speed up the DNS lookup in Ubuntu? It is incredibly slow05:17
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koshaI can go to sites quickly if I know the ip05:17
jjazzpr0tocol, ok.  Like I said, I'm not fully clear on what the backports repository is for.05:17
Toma-works great... bob2, u tha man ;)05:17
koshabut it takes forever if i have to type in the domain name05:17
thewayofzenanyone able to help me get  artwiz fonts working05:17
thewayofzeni did sudo apt-get install xfonts-artwiz05:18
nullman_noob question... i just installed ubuntu for the first time; i don't remember entering a root password; is there a default one? do i need to boot from a cd and chroot to set it?05:18
thewayofzenthey are installed just not showing up anywhere05:18
bob2kosha: about:config, try disabling ipv6 lookups05:18
pr0tocoljjazz: just extrax 'stuff'.05:18
bob2nullman_: wuki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo05:18
bob2nullman_: the installer explained it as part of the install05:18
jjazzbob2, One thing that's apparently not in Ubuntu is SWAT.  I know there's a file-sharing dialog in the GUI, but I can't find a printer-sharing option.  Am I missing something or do I need to edit the smb.conf by hand?05:18
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sambagirlhow do you make a  channel private i foget now05:18
ubuntui'm a new user05:19
sambagirlforgot how05:19
bob2jjazz: swat is in ubuntu05:19
bob2sambagirl: /mode #channel +s05:19
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Yawgmoth7Thanks for the help bob205:19
koshabob2, well in every app the dns lookup is slow, such as when I loaded up xchat it took a long time to connect to irc.freenode.net whereas usually its like a 2 or 3 second time05:19
glynIs there anyone out there who can help me install captive?05:19
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intelikeynullman_: if you want a root password you can "sudo passwd " and set one.05:19
glynit's a program for writing on NTFS05:19
sambagirli is for invite, no?05:19
pr0tocolwhy?!?!?!?!?!?05:19
poyiehi05:20
jjazzbob2, well, then, I must be doing something else wrong.  Thanks for the info.05:20
nullman_bob2: thanks, i'm reading now; i was pretty tired when i installed, so i'm not surprised i missed it; also you mean wiki... not wuki... ;-)05:20
naliothglyn: we dont recommend it05:20
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bob2sambagirl: http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml05:20
nullman_intelikey: ok, thx05:20
poyiebob05:20
glynnailoth:My NTFS drive is already down, I'm trying to get it back up by deleting unnecessary files05:20
intelikeynp05:20
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bob2pr0tocol: file a bug!05:20
poyiecan i as \k u smthing05:20
ubuntusambagirl?05:20
pr0tocolbob2: It's already filed05:20
pr0tocol:P05:20
bob2pr0tocol: and not fixed yet?05:20
sambagirlyes ubunty?05:20
bob2poyie: if you have a question, just ask it05:20
naliothglyn: writing to NTFS (even with captive) can kill the rest off05:20
sambagirl'/mode #channel +105:20
sambagirlright?05:20
sambagirlfor invite?05:21
sambagirl+i05:21
sambagirlii mean05:21
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naliothsambagirl: /msg chanserv help05:21
ubuntuwho know a spanish channel05:21
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sambagirlok05:21
bimberi!es05:21
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:21
poyiehow to view webcam in ubuntu?05:21
intelikeynullman_: the server install option does ask for a root password, but most of these guys don't seem to know that....05:21
pr0tocolbob2: well, If I can report a bug and get instant response to the problem...Ubuntu would be Gods amongst Gods05:21
apokryphossambagirl: for invite-onlly, yes.05:21
pr0tocolI don't think anyone works THAT fast, now. ;)05:21
sambagirlgracias05:21
sambagirlchao05:21
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naliothsambagirl: chao?05:22
windexpr0tocol, please name a list of commercial vendors who provide that service, because i am going to break into their offices and steal their time machine05:22
jjazzIs there generally one-to-one correspondence between Debian packages and Ubuntu packages?  I mean if Debian has a package called swat, should I expect Ubuntu to have it?05:22
bob2jjazz: yes05:22
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bob2jjazz: /msg dpkg repositories05:22
bob2jjazz: that may be your problem05:22
nullman_intelikey: got ya; i'm a long time debian user, first time ubuntu user, and i've got to admit it deserves all the praise i've heard about it05:22
sambagirlsorry ubuntu no messages are going thru05:22
apokryphosbob2: ubot ;-)05:22
pr0tocolwindex: lol wish I knew05:22
nullman_it just needs more packages05:22
apokryphos*ubotu05:22
sambagirli not registered or something.05:22
bob2bah05:22
glynNailoth:I'm willing to accept the risks05:23
robotgeeknullman_: more packages??05:23
jjazzbob2, ok.  apt-cache search swat on my debian box shows me a package called swat.  On my ubuntu box, it doesn't.  I can't figure out what I'm missing here.05:23
sambagirlchao05:23
naliothsambagirl: exactly, you're not identified05:23
bob2nullman_: I'd be surprised if ubuntu is missing any package from debian05:23
bob2jjazz: /msg ubotu repositories05:23
naliothsambagirl: chao?05:23
sambagirli knowing who i am nalith05:23
bob2jjazz: unsupported packages from debian are in the universe section05:23
sambagirlnalioth05:23
intelikeynullman_: cool,   i wasn't impressed, but i'm glad you like it.05:23
sambagirlbrb05:23
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poyiewhere i can find different linux command?05:23
nullman_robotgeek, bob2: well, then i must not have enough sources listed, or maybe i need to use apt-cache05:24
jjazzbob2, thanks05:24
intelikeypoyie: ls /*bin05:24
Yawgmoth7bob2, typing sudo aptitude install ethereal dosent work it says that it Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "ethereal"05:24
nalioth!tell poyie about cli05:24
robotgeek!tell nullman about repos05:24
HrdwrBoB!tell Yawgmoth7 about repos05:24
apokryphosubotu: tell poyie about commands05:24
pr0tocolhey05:24
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rukuartic!tell rukuartic about commands05:24
rukuarticdoh...05:24
rukuartic!tell rukuartic about tell05:24
robotgeek:)05:25
sambagirl-s remove secret thingy no?05:25
pr0tocolis it necessary to have OPTION "UseFBDev"   "true" there?05:25
apokryphossambagirl: yes05:25
koshaYeah, my ping time to google is 97ms, its usually 20-30 under Windows....anyone have a solution?05:25
flodinehows breezy yall05:25
pr0tocolbob2: know anything about that05:25
pr0tocolflodine: giving me hell ;) but fixable05:25
flodinelol05:26
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cefflodine: seems fine.. had to reconfig xorg once installed, but otherwise ok05:26
nullman_!tell nullman_ about repos05:26
robotgeekpr0tocol: did u try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'05:26
durtpr0tocol: try posting at nvnews05:26
sambagirlso if i do /whois sambagirl i can see i am in this thing or not?05:26
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sambagirloh nevermind i do review05:26
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intelikeynullman_: if you don't mind my asking, what exactly about ub do you like so well ?    just curious.05:26
pr0tocolrobotgeek: I prefer just editing the /etc/X11/xorg.conf :P05:27
cefrobotgeek: if only xorg could get my laptop screen res/sync/refresh correct05:27
pr0tocolsame crap different toilet05:27
robotgeekpr0tocol: :)05:27
whyameyeI'm can't get Pd to work with MIDI. Anybody have an experience with either?05:27
robotgeekcef: if you set it, does it not respect it?05:27
poyiehow about the differnt function?05:27
koshaHow do I install a .deb package that I downloaded?05:27
bob2Yawgmoth7: the bot just told you how to fix that05:28
robotgeekkosha: dpkg -i <file.deb> ,05:28
intelikeypoyie: functions ?05:28
robotgeekkosha: but, see if it is there in the ubuntu repos first05:28
TraceGreenHello, does Ubuntu liveCd contain backup tool such as partimage?05:28
cefrobotgeek: yeah but I shouldn't have to set it here05:28
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durtpr0tocol: did you comment out load "dri" and load "GLcore"?05:28
bob2TraceGreen: you can install anything you like on it, if you have enough ram05:28
robotgeekcef: your laptop sync, the defaults don't work?05:28
Kytteni have another broblem bob2 once i start ubuntu it's dosent fit whol screen it's gives me half the desktop and somtimes works good and and my desktop shaking (my desktop not fitting the whol screen just half)05:29
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TraceGreenbob2, Do you mean i can apt-get install in liveCD?05:29
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cefrobotgeek: had to set.. Option "IgnoreEDID"; HorizSync 29-57; VertRefresh 43-6005:29
pr0tocoldurt: yup05:29
cef .. before it works05:29
naliothTraceGreen: yes you can05:29
TraceGreenthanks all!05:29
thewayofzenok try again.. did everything in the ubuntuguide.org  .. still not able to get xfonts-artwiz to work.05:29
cefrobotgeek: nvidia driver though.. not nv05:29
pr0tocoldurt: nothing to do with it, though.  Even before all that the NVIDIA logo was appearing.05:29
bob2TraceGreen: yes05:29
zdennisdoes symlinks and NFS not play well together?05:29
durtpr0tocol: what model card do you have?05:29
bob2thewayofzen: define "work"05:29
pr0tocoldurt: it is saying something about the libfb.a05:29
robotgeekcef: dunno anything about nvidia, sorry!05:30
nalioththewayofzen: ubuntuguide is not the preferred tome05:30
bob2zdennis: they're resolved on the client05:30
zdennisI have a nfs share with a symlink in it, but on my nfs client it tries to intrepret the symlink locally05:30
pr0tocoldurt: GeForce 5600 FX05:30
zdennisbah! that sucks05:30
bob2zdennis: that's how nfs works05:30
zdennisbob2, any ideas how to get around that?05:30
thewayofzenbob2,  they dont show up in any of the font selection menus.. nor are they recognised in styles05:30
zdennishardlink?05:30
zdennislol05:30
cefrobotgeek: and it screwed up an upgrade of the previous config (which worked, and had the same options)05:30
bob2zdennis: this is how filesystems work05:30
bob2zdennis: what are yo utrying to do?05:30
zdennisit is not how all filesystems work05:30
thewayofzen!faq05:30
ubotufaq is, like, totally, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)05:30
bob2thewayofzen: then you need to edit /etc/fonts/local.conf and enable bitmap fonts05:31
zdennisln -s /var/www/website /home/zdennis/nfs-share/website05:31
robotgeekcef: the older xorg.conf should be backed up in the same directory with xorg.conf.mmddyyyy05:31
bob2zdennis: which unix network filesystems don't work like that?05:31
zdennisand then i share /home/zdennis/nfs-share05:31
thewayofzenbob2, that sounds complicated?05:31
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bob2thewayofzen: not really05:31
durtpr0tocol: you might find help at http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14 since i have no clue :)05:31
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intelikeyzdennis: might alter the symlink to reletive path05:31
bz0bso bob2 when the final release comes out, and i get all the new updates, when i ctrl alt f2 or something, instead of saying breezy development, will it change to like breezy final release or something?05:31
nullman_intelikey: well, i like it's simplicity and easy install; i like that it uses apt and so in theory i can always easily upgrade it; i liked how easy it was to config05:31
cute_bettongis it safe to use hoary repos with breezy?05:31
thewayofzenbob2,  im guessing google "enable bitmap fonts linux"05:31
bob2zdennis: point the symlink at the location it's mounted at then05:32
cefrobotgeek: basically EDID on this laptop doesn't seem to return the right values, so it assumes the refresh rate is wrong05:32
bob2thewayofzen: no, read the file05:32
bob2cute_bettong: why would you do that?05:32
robotgeekcute_bettong: why would u do that? i don't think that is possible05:32
bob2bz0b: yeah05:32
glynwhen I'm downloading packages how do I get rid of the Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)05:32
cute_bettongi want mplayer and gkrellm05:32
glynin drive /cdrom/?05:32
intelikeyk ty for replying nullman_   :)05:32
naliothcute_bettong: why would you want to?05:32
cute_bettongand for some reason they arn't in my repos05:32
cefrobotgeek: I've restored the config (the only change was adding those values)05:32
robotgeekcute_bettong: mplayer is in breezy05:32
zdennisbob2, iirc samba doesn't act this way with symlinks05:32
glynplease insert the CD rom thing05:32
naliothcute_bettong: patience05:32
glynhow do I get rid of that?05:32
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zdennisbut i may be wrong, i will double check05:32
cute_bettongnot in mine05:32
robotgeekcef: hmm. no clue!05:32
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jjazzglyn, is the cd in your /etc/apt/sources.list?05:33
robotgeekcute_bettong: hey, i am on powerpc and mplayer is installed :)05:33
cute_bettongtheres alot of stuff missing from my repos with breezy that i can't get05:33
cute_bettongO_o05:33
zdennisah, darnit.... it isn't nfs's fault05:33
cute_bettongthen something is wrong here05:33
zdenniscrap...it's samba fault05:33
zdennisi had things bassackwards05:33
cute_bettongwhen i first instsalled breezy05:33
zdenniswill try nfs =)05:33
cute_bettongsomething commented out all of the repos05:33
cute_bettongi had to manually uncomment them05:33
naliothcute_bettong: breezy is broken until oct 1305:33
glynyes, thanks I'll get rid of it05:33
bob2zdennis: samba doesn't do symlinks at all05:33
robotgeekcute_bettong: guess u gotta wait!05:34
jjazzglyn, then do apt-get update05:34
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bob2cute_bettong: what do you think is missing?05:34
cefrobotgeek: meh.. just wish someone would add more 1440 x 900 modes with lower refresh rates05:34
pr0tocolbrb guys05:34
pr0tocolthink I found a solution >:)05:34
cute_bettongoh um ok so let me see if i have this right the repo's for all the good stuff are busted as well?05:34
bob2cute_bettong: "good stuff"?05:34
apokryphoscute_bettong: what exactly are you having a problem with?05:34
robotgeekcute_bettong: nope, a few packages won't build...05:34
bob2you mean random unsupported illegally distributed binary junk?05:34
bob2quite possibly05:34
cute_bettongyea like mplayer and gkrellm?05:35
bob2cute_bettong: both of them are in ubuntu05:35
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bob2I wish people would stop pointing apt at random crap05:35
cute_bettongi know this05:35
HrdwrBoBmplayer is in the repository05:35
naliothbob2: it makes life interesting, no?05:35
apokryphoscute_bettong: so what's the problem?05:35
cute_bettongbut when i search for mplayer i get "mga-vid-source" as the pacage05:36
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cute_bettongnot mplayer05:36
bob2cute_bettong: perhaps you didn't enable nmulitverse for breezy then?05:36
apokryphosubotu: tell cute_bettong about mplayer05:36
cute_bettongno i did05:36
bob2cute_bettong: then paste your /etvc/apt/sources.list to #flood05:36
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bob2since mplayer is absolutely in breezy05:36
cute_bettongkk05:36
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leouan_m18hi everyone.05:37
apokryphoshi05:37
leouan_m18how to activate footwork icon in open office 1.1.305:37
cute_bettongok done05:38
leouan_m18i see a footwork icon but not active05:38
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apokryphoscute_bettong: no Multiverse there05:38
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cute_bettongso i have to manually install multiverse?05:38
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jdermerhey guys05:39
apokryphoscute_bettong: multiverse is a repository; you don't install it, you add it.05:39
jdermerwuts the best bittorrent client for linux05:39
leouan_m18teach me the openoffice 1.1.3 footwork icon to activate\05:39
apokryphosubotu: tell cute_bettong about repositories05:39
cute_bettongwell thats what i mean05:39
bob2cute_bettong: no, you need to "manually" remove the # sign from your sources.list05:39
bob2cute_bettong: then yes05:39
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apokryphoscute_bettong: check the link ubotu gave you05:39
bob2leouan_m18: doesn't sound like anyone knows05:39
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MrStonewhats a good link for setting up samba?05:39
cute_bettongok05:39
bob2leouan_m18: try #ubuntu-ph05:39
cute_bettongthank you05:39
apokryphosbob2: default sources.list doesn't have multiverse (even as uncommented), I believe.05:39
cute_bettong^_^05:39
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apokryphosubotu: tell MrStone about samba05:40
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jdermerany105:40
glynHow do I get my webcam to work on Ubuntu?05:41
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robotgeekglyn: not many apps support webcam on linux yet :(05:41
bob2jdermer: this is an english-speaking channel...05:41
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bob2jdermer: bittornado is nice, and you can run azerus if you like05:41
bob2glyn: depends on the webcam05:41
robotgeekglyn: though there is a gaim-vv program05:41
bob2glyn: I'd be very surprised if google really had no hits05:41
jdermerazureus is eh05:41
jdermerdoesnt rly do it for me05:42
jdermeri dunno seems slow05:42
glynDoes the gaim-vv program work with users on Windows?05:42
robotgeekjdermer: screen + bittorrent05:42
glynsay I want to use gaim to use my cam to show a windows peep05:42
robotgeekglyn: i dunno, i havent used it :(05:42
bob2"really"05:42
glynoh05:42
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codomaniacIs breezy stable now ? :-)05:43
bob2no05:43
codomaniacbob2: ah. when is it expected to be stable ?05:43
jdermerrobotgeek, wuts that ?05:43
bob2when it releases05:43
bob2early october05:43
naliothcodomaniac: oct 1305:43
codomaniacI see.05:43
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robotgeekjdermer: screen is a terminal emulation program, (man screen :) ) and you can run several instances of the ncurses based bittornado (?) in a single term05:44
apokryphosAzureus is good, but quite CPU-intensive (particularly with many torrents).05:44
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isymok i need help installing AIM in linux05:44
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apokryphosisym: you can use gaim05:45
isymit keeps telling me that it the LIB Binaries are missing05:45
codomaniacisym: use gaim.05:45
koshaAnyone know how to get Opera working on Ubuntu?05:45
isymim trying to learn linux by installign a little program05:45
codomaniacisym: what distro you using ?05:45
naliothjdermer: you can read about screen here http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/07/06/unix_gems.html05:45
apokryphoskosha: download and install the deb from the Opera site05:45
isymyours05:45
jdermerhow come when i try to remove some packages it says it needs to uninstall ubuntu-desktop05:45
isym:)05:45
isymubuntu05:45
intelikeyi always uninstall screen when i first setup a system.05:45
bob2kosha: get static version. install. run.05:45
intelikeyand sudl05:45
intelikeysudo05:45
koshayeh, it doesn't work05:45
koshai'll try restarting05:45
codomaniacisym: apt-get install gaim05:45
Agrajagyou... UNINSTALL screen?05:45
koshato see if my dns will work05:45
naliothintelikey: ?05:45
apokryphosjdermer: it's likely trying to remove a pack that ubuntu-desktop depends on05:45
bob2jdermer: because ubuntu-desktop's entire job is to stop you uninstalling useful things05:46
intelikeyyes05:46
apokryphoskosha: what's the error?05:46
Agrajagyou're mad, that's what you are05:46
isymok05:46
jdermerwell i got a broken package05:46
bz0bhehe05:46
jdermerand i need to uninstall it05:46
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intelikeyquite happy  actually05:46
bz0bthe madness needs to stop05:46
isymcus i wanted to install QUAKEWORLD w/e and what not but everytime i try to run anything it tells me that the LIB BINARIES Are missing05:46
jdermeralso im trying to install bittornado05:46
bz0bisym, just get the .exe and cedega ;-)05:46
jdermerand it says it needs to remove some firefox package and ubuntu-desktop05:46
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transgresssudo aptitude install bittornado jdermer05:46
bob2jdermer: and the name of the package is?05:46
isymcedegA?05:46
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transgressi use gnome-bittorrent myself...05:47
bob2jdermer: no. bittornado will not cause the removal of ubuntu-desktop05:47
robotgeekjdermer: i also recommend using the official bittorrent client, works well for me www.bittorrent.org05:47
transgressthe newest official client is nice05:47
transgressbut not in apt05:47
intelikeyno i really do i always uninstall any automaticly installed "screen & sudo"  no matter what distro.05:47
naliothvolvoguy: howdy. my ppc breezy is gettin better with each update05:47
bob2intelikey: why?05:47
jdermerE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:47
jdermerE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?05:47
jdermerthats wut i get when i run that command bob205:48
intelikeycause i just don't like them.05:48
bob2jdermer: then run it as root and close whatever other packagemanegement tool you have open05:48
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apokryphosjdermer: you shouldn't paste in here, but the error is evidently pretty self-explanatory there05:48
transgressjdermer: you are already running it in something05:48
volvoguynalioth, ditto! i'm hoping to get me a wireless thingie this week and my creation will be complete! mwahahaa.05:48
jdermerk05:48
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jdermerwell i did aptitude05:48
jdermerand it wants to remove: mozilla-firefox-gnome-support ubuntu-desktop05:48
transgresswhat does?05:48
transgressbittornado?05:48
jdermeryea05:48
transgressumm05:49
transgressit didn't for me05:49
transgressyou pissed the magic cow off eh?05:49
bob2jdermer: then paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood05:49
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apokryphosjdermer: can you pastebin the full output of the apt command?05:49
isymi dont wanna pay for Cedega05:49
isymi just wanna play quakeworld it has a linux part to it05:49
jerryyou should, it rocks05:49
isymbut i dunno how to install it or run it05:49
jdermersee i think i got a broken firefox package05:49
jdermerand since then its been sorta wierd05:49
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cyphaseis breezy+1 going to have a central download manager?05:49
bob2"central download manager"?05:50
cyphaseone download manager for all downloads05:50
cyphasewithin reason05:50
jerryanyone know how to boot to command line? I cant ionstall nvidia driver in x05:50
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bob2what's the point?05:50
bob2jerry: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto05:50
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thebluejerry: At X, press Ctrl-Alt-F1.05:50
thebluejerry: to get back, press Ctrl-Alt-F7.05:50
cyphasecodomania, apt-get is for software05:50
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cyphasecodomaniac*05:50
jerryok, thanks a million05:51
jdermerill paste my sources.list in #flood05:51
transgressaptitude instead of apt-get05:51
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codomaniacwhat will you download with that manager then cyphase ?05:51
thebluejerry: No prob. :-)05:51
intelikeyor [alt]  [f7]     no [ctrl]  needed in console mode.05:51
apokryphoscyphase: Dapper; but, there is a download manager -- one GUI one, by default. Synaptic.05:51
theblueYes, but I like consistency.05:51
intelikey:)05:51
cyphasecodomaniac, software is not the only thing people download05:51
cyphaseapokryphos, Synaptic is for software05:51
cyphaselol05:51
apokryphosA real question is if the package manager will begin to sort things by applications etc instead of actual packages05:51
apokryphoscyphase: and you want a download manager for......?05:52
volvoguycyphase, gnome-art is good for things graphic related.05:52
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codomaniaccyphase: umm. okay.05:52
cyphasevolvoguy, what does that have to do with a download manager?05:52
cyphaselol05:52
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jdermerk05:52
jdermeri pasted it05:52
gthow do i change the directory imn working in?05:53
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gtlike if i want to instal mame05:53
gtdo i have to be working from that directory instad of home?05:53
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jediis it by design that no hard drive device nodes were created when i booted up with the hoary livecd?05:53
volvoguycyphase, it manages (previews/downloads/installs) artwork for you.05:53
cyphaseah05:53
gthow do i instal stuff?05:53
gtis there an easy way?05:53
apokryphosjdermer: it's the hoary-backports which is likely causing the problem05:54
cyphasegt, synaptic05:54
jdermerwait05:54
jdermeri seemed to have fixed it05:54
cyphaseSystem -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager05:54
apokryphosjdermer: as in, the one that wants to remove ubuntu-desktop05:54
volvoguywill there be a Canonical sanctioned app to dowload warez/porn/tv/dvd's... i doubt it.05:54
intelikeygt i hesitate to answer,  that sounds to noobish to be a valid question.    to change dirs "cd <dir> " .....05:54
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gtthanks05:54
gtnice insult by the way05:54
gtass face05:54
apokryphosubotu: tell gt about commands05:54
mik3haha05:55
gti never denied being new05:55
naliothgentlemen. manners, please05:55
scxdamn damn damn05:55
apokryphosgt: language05:55
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gtapologies05:55
mik3intelikey : take your pseudo-intellect and die05:55
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gti thinkits sudo lol05:55
gthahahahaha05:55
geyzermik3: sudo05:55
mik3WAKAKAK05:55
apokryphosmik3: please be civil.05:55
mik3it's pseudo-05:55
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gti agree with mik3 though05:55
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mik3ohhh big bad ops05:56
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intelikey"how do i change directories ? "        can you own a computer and not know that ?05:56
mik3yes05:56
scxI can't get this IRC to let me send personal chats05:56
apokryphosmik3: stay on topic or go to #ubuntu-offtopic05:56
scxdamn05:56
naliothgentlemen, if we remember our manners.. .. ..05:56
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gti can shit in a toilet and own you05:56
KnelixIntelikey, be nice...05:56
mik3i love nalioth, and Seveas . they make my world go round05:56
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gtthat is, you are shit05:56
jedii smell a bannin' coming on05:56
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transgressah i'm noticing definite improvements in this upgrade to breezy05:56
mik3i wasn't being facetious either05:56
AGRAV8Need help with network install.05:56
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scxHey guys..05:57
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nalioth!tell gt about conduct05:57
jdermerbittornado looks exactly like the regular bittorent client05:57
jdermerwuts the diff05:57
scxsomeone you did an install of java runtime ?05:57
scxtrought apt ?05:57
mik3scx : yes05:57
naliothjdermer: rewritten for efficiency05:57
intelikeyKnelix: i wasn't being mean...  i was being honest.   i didn't know that anyone didn't know how to  cd   it is the same for ibm-dos  ms-dos linux ....  i just didn't know.05:58
jdermero05:58
scxwhat source didi u used ?05:58
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jdermeris there any BT client where the upload and download speeds arent locked together05:58
mik3scx : i got better results by downloading the java package from sun.com a05:58
jdermeror where u dont have to seed in order to DL and stuff05:58
scxyes...05:58
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scxI did that05:58
scxbut I wanted to do it trough apt05:58
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AGRAV8Which files should i download to do a network install. I have a running ubuntu desktop and a tablet pc that i want to place ubuntu on.05:59
scxanyway.... it's legal if I pack it into a .deb ???05:59
Knelixintelikey, I know it sounds noobie.. but, I for example, am reading and learning how to do more advanced things and sometimes forget silly things like that, because I'm more used to the Mac, etc.05:59
^reapserhi guys is there any files that tell u how to install UBUNTU...??05:59
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transgress^reapser: eh one or two06:00
transgressdid you look at the site?06:00
^reapseryep..06:00
AGRAV8problem i am having is finding documentation that is not written for "experts"06:00
^reapserdo u have a notepad or something....06:00
jdermeris it just me or does bittornado take a while for the downloading to start06:00
^reapserwith instructions06:00
str8edgejdermer: it will start slowly, but gain speed as the download progresses06:01
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scxI'll put a java runtime on my repository soon:  deb http://axanteam.com ./06:01
jdermerhey stre8edge, im sXe too06:01
scxit is down now..... but..06:01
str8edgejdermer: cool06:01
jdermeryea06:02
scxohhh err:  http://axanteam/debian ./06:02
jdermerand damn proud of it06:02
jdermerwhere u live ?06:02
str8edgeregina, sask, canada06:02
jdermero06:02
str8edgeu?06:02
jdermerGeorgia, USA06:02
sambagirli in georgia usa too06:02
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jdermero06:03
sambagirlciao06:03
jdermerwhere in ga06:03
mik3I get this when i try to run NVU : Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting. <----i checked google and the home page, no relivant facts. any takers?06:03
cfh_devWhere can I find an amarok-xine package for breezy?06:03
sambagirlpowder spring06:03
jdermero wow06:03
sambagirl?06:03
jdermernot far rly06:03
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jdermerim in east cobb06:03
sambagirlahh06:03
jdermermarietta06:03
sambagirlis is poor side ;)06:03
sambagirlhaha06:03
cfh_devfunny, I'm in Stockbridge06:03
sambagirlmarietta06:03
sambagirlyesi knowing big chickens06:03
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jdermerheheh06:03
sambagirlstockbridge is of georgia too?06:03
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kevin06I see Breezy is out. Do you guys notice a difference?06:04
jdermersambagirl is english ure first language /06:04
cfh_devsambagirl: yeah, south of the airport06:04
sambagirlyes big chicken they telling me this all along aobut this big chicken.06:04
str8edgekevin06: lots of minor enhancements, plus proper support for mono.06:04
sambagirlmaybe, why? ;006:04
jdermerlol06:04
sambagirli need cooking brb06:04
sambagirl; )06:04
cfh_devkevin06: things look a little nicer but that could be the video driver update06:04
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kevin06cfh_dev, You sure it's not the GNOME update?06:05
jdermerbittornado seems to take longer connecting to peers and stuff that azureus did06:05
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cfh_devkevin06: I use KDE so it could be that update as well.  Things seem to run a little smoother06:05
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transgresshmm so far i'm impressed... the upgrade went rather well06:05
nybblehmm06:05
kevin06cfh_dev, Ah. Well, I used the vidia drivers, mupen runs pretty bad without them.06:05
nybblehello06:05
transgressrather well... now... i have to decide if i should do it on the desktop06:06
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cfh_devkevin06: I'm on the nvidia driver as well.  Good things so far.06:06
nybbleanyone have issues when trying to run "sudo echo -n mem > /sys/power/state"06:06
henafichat.terra.cl 700006:06
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kevin06Nifty06:06
nybblethis is to sleep an ACPI notebook06:06
Kiwi__Will mono be in breezy?06:06
AGRAV8no one here can help me with a network install?06:06
naliothAGRAV8: we've helped you with your tablet yesterday06:07
jdermerbittornado doesnt require any ports open to work does it ?06:07
AGRAV8nalioth, it doesn't work . so i am looking for help06:07
naliothAGRAV8: i believe we've been thru all well known alternetives.06:08
transgressjdermer: well the internet requires open ports to work, but it will need some ports available to work well...06:08
transgress6881-6889 to be exact06:08
AGRAV8nalioth, can you tell me which files i need to grab to do anetwork install?06:08
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jdermertransgress, wut exactly do those ports do06:08
jdermerdoes that effect incoming and outgoing ?06:08
naliothAGRAV8: i'd search debians site and find the "woody" netinst iso image06:09
transgressjdermer: incoming... it'll cut your speed in half a big chunk of the time if those ports aren't open06:09
AGRAV8nalioth, thanks06:09
LootBeeri canoot find my multisync haeder dir...i need it to compile synCE06:09
jdermero wow06:09
cefnalioth: he can't boot cd's though06:09
jdermerbittornado looks like it randomizes ports06:09
naliothAGRAV8: if you can get it booted, once it restarts, change it's sources.list for an ubuntu sources.list06:09
jdermer10,000 to 60,00006:09
jdermershould i set it to the ports u mentioned06:09
naliothAgrajag: they also have woody netinst floppy images06:09
codomaniacbye guys.06:09
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gthello?06:10
transgresshi06:11
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naliothgt hello06:11
gtthank god06:11
gti think i was banned06:11
naliothgt: yes, we mind our manners in here06:11
gtill spare you me ranting about how he should have been baned too, but anyways06:11
gti need some help wiht installing things06:12
gti dont know how the heck to do it06:12
gtlike at all06:12
gtive got a folder with mame in it06:12
gtand i dont know what to do with any of it06:12
mik3gt: let it go pimp juice, this network is full of petulant people, hell Rob Levin is an irc nazi , you won't win06:12
mik3i used to run an ircd here06:12
mik3trust me.06:12
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azahidany one of you want to comment on adding debian apt source for programs like Opera, Avidemux. Is it safe?06:12
mik3this place is a righteous source of info that's about it06:13
apokryphosazahid: there is a deb on the ubuntu site for Ubuntu06:13
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naliothmik3: you and gt can rant all you like in #ubuntu-offtopic06:13
apokryphosazahid: adding marillat is not recommended; you can cause problems.06:13
mik3nalioth: i still love you06:13
mik3your dog is fucking up my nick completion06:13
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mik3how un-convenient06:13
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naliothmik3: language, please06:14
mik3sorry06:14
mik3=/06:14
azahidis there a debian source for opera in ubuntu ?06:14
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gtis there any easy way to instal things in ubuntu?06:14
azahidwhat repository I have to add?06:14
apokryphosazahid: you can just get the .deb from their site.06:14
naliothazahid: no, you have to see opera.com, i believe06:14
azahidI have done that. I was just wondering06:15
ADRnLnHi, I just ran the live cd for PPC on a powerbook G4 1.5 12", I am having trouble getting the touch pad to work. it works fine with a usb mouse connected, but otherwise mousing capabilities are nonexistant...06:15
ADRnLnis this a known issue?06:15
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Sonny_Wertzikcan anyone tell me if which is better...Limewire or Azureus?06:16
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ADRnLnAzureus is great for torrents06:16
KnelixStay away from Limewire, in my opinion.06:16
azahidI am using version 5.10 now. Do you know what's coming in the next (6.04) version or where can I find the information?06:16
naliothADRnLn: you have a newer PB with the new apple touchpad06:16
transgressherm06:16
transgressdamn it06:16
ADRnLni suppose i do06:16
ADRnLnlol06:16
transgresssound died in the upgrade06:16
ADRnLni just got it in June06:17
Sonny_Wertzikthanks for the input ;-)06:17
naliothADRnLn: support for it is gonna be flaky for a while, i would think06:17
factotumso anyone notice any X nvidia problems before that big batch of updates a few days ago?06:17
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ADRnLneverything seems to work except the touch pad and airport extreme, but i realize that broadcom hasnt released the specs for it06:17
Sonny_Wertzikwhat kinda problems?06:17
ADRnLnTY nalioth...06:18
transgressi got my boradcom working with ndiswrapper... but i don't know about on ppc06:18
factotumfor some reason i had to change "nvidia" back to "nv" for a while to get an x session06:18
naliothADRnLn: yours is the newest PB i've heard about with ubuntu on it06:18
gtok... so is there a easy way to install things in ubuntu?06:18
gtanyone?06:18
factotumthen yesterday on a whim i did an apt-upgrade and switched back to "nvidia" works again. Kinda wierd06:18
Sonny_Wertzikya synaptic06:19
azahidgt what you want to install?06:19
nalioth!tell gt about synaptic06:19
gtbut what if its not in that list?06:19
gti wanna get mame on this06:19
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ADRnLnnalioth, like i said everything, including sound which for some reason seems to be a big deal on yellowdog at the moment, works06:19
FR500hi06:19
factotumi was reading on a support forum a thread of a few people who had the same issue06:19
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naliothADRnLn: yes, all my macs work with ubuntu except my G5 imac06:20
transgressaha06:20
factotumits come and gone, but just curious if i was the only one06:20
transgressfixed the sound06:20
ADRnLnProblems with imacs06:20
ADRnLn?06:20
ADRnLnthat was my next stop06:20
ADRnLnlol06:20
Sonny_Wertzikinstall....auto apt-get and checkinstall06:20
naliothADRnLn: just the very brand newest ones06:20
ADRnLnargh...06:20
ADRnLnwell i suppose thats what i get for upgrading06:20
ADRnLn:-\06:20
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naliothADRnLn: and when breezy finals, it will run on it, w/o a problem (or as well or better than ydl runs on it)06:20
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ADRnLnim not impressed with ydl06:21
ADRnLnsound is non-existant and it doesnt detect my display06:21
ADRnLnnot to mention i had to look REALLY hard to find the free downloads06:21
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naliothADRnLn: we can take this to #ubuntu-offtopic06:21
factotumneither did slackware, but i ran it for years :P heh06:21
Sonny_Wertzikgt,  have you installed....auto apt-get and checkinstall06:21
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gtwhat is a reposotory in synaptiic??06:21
ADRnLnahh...sorry06:21
naliothwelcome to botsville06:22
nalioth!tell gt about repos06:22
gtno i havent06:22
XorlevQuestion: What character is used to seperate two variables in Bash Scripting, like in PHP it would be $1.$2 or $1 . $206:22
naliothgt: read what ubotu is sending you06:22
factotumis there an apt-whatever command to get a description of a package?06:22
FR500!tell me about repos06:22
naliothADRnLn: not at all, we're just gettin a little OT06:22
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FR500do you know if breezy's default theme will be different from hoary's06:23
naliothtransgress: dont waste any money06:23
transgresswell there's always backports eh nalioth?06:23
ADRnLnSo, back on topic, does hoary support the touch pad?06:23
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Sonny_Wertzikgt, first try to change ur repository...but look at this page too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall?highlight=%28checkinstall%2906:23
gtso how do i get apt get?06:23
transgresshoary supports my touchpad quite well.06:23
nickrudbackports already?06:23
gtits not in the synaptic thingy06:23
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naliothADRnLn: not sure on the new models06:24
transgresshahahaha06:24
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transgressgt, you make me smile buddy06:24
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Agrajaglaffo06:24
Sonny_Wertzikgt,  check that link i jst thru out06:24
ADRnLnok...im downloading the latest hoary release now...ill check on it and see what happens06:24
ADRnLnthx for the help06:24
naliothgt: apt is built into your system06:24
bz0bi am trying to comiple something, that i know is correct, but whenever i try and gcc -o it, it gives me a bunch of errors, like error wrong syntax DWORD and stuff like that, do I need a language installed?06:24
Sonny_Wertzikgt, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall?highlight=%28checkinstall%2906:24
nalioth!tell gt about apt06:24
ADRnLnO, one more thing, is there any word on getting Airport Extreme drivers any time soon?06:24
bz0bADRnLn, what model?06:25
naliothbz0b: you do have gcc installed, right?06:25
bz0bnalioth, yes06:25
naliothADRnLn: dont hold your breath06:25
ADRnLnPB G4 1.5 12"06:25
naliothADRnLn: ralink chips are supported ootb, i hear06:25
bz0bADRnLn, I thought you meant the Airport Extreme Dlink Cards06:25
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ADRnLnbz0b, no but thanx for the info06:26
bz0bis the airport extreme in the apples a railink driver?06:27
bz0bcause if so, i can get it06:27
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bz0bnalioth, want to compile it for me?06:27
naliothbz0b: no, i was telling him to get a usb wifi dongle with a ralink chip in it06:27
bz0boh06:27
bz0bo06:27
bz0bok06:27
ADRnLnnalioth, seems i keep getting off topic, apologies...06:27
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naliothADRnLn: offtopic? wifi under ubuntu?06:28
ADRnLnlol...06:28
mik3dude my bandwidth = my neighbors bandwidth, totally on topic06:28
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ADRnLnnalioth, how can i run an ralink card in my powerbookw with AX built-in?06:29
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gteppelDoes Gnome and Xorg still run really slow? I have a AMD 1800XP, Geforce4 Ti4200 128MB, 768 MB ram. And Ubuntu (and any linux distro) has always ran slow. Actually let me rephrase that, Gnome and Xorg have been incredibly slow compared to how responsive WinXP is or MacOSX.06:29
naliothADRnLn: buy a usb wifi dongle with a ralink chip in it06:29
HrdwrBoBgteppel: that's odd06:29
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transgressgnome hasn't run slow for me at all06:30
transgressand that should be plenty of power for xorg and gnome06:30
gteppeland I've gone through the forums and tweaked everything I could and enabled acceleration, etc.. but its never helped06:30
da_bon_bongnome is N times faster than winX :) for me06:30
jakeloI'm getting the error "Cannot assign requested address" with running apt-get update and with wget.  Does anyone know how to fix this?06:30
transgresswith wget?06:30
transgresswtf are you trying to do jakelo?06:30
Dr_WillisMoo?06:31
Dr_Willis:P06:31
jakelotransgress, Fix a problem upgrading with apt-get.06:31
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gteppeltransgress: i'm talking about aesthetic things like resizing a window, minimizing/maximizing  windows, etc... The animations are just horribly slow and/or ugly06:31
hajikiis it possible to use the other mouse buttons on ubuntu? (the forward and back buttons, usually on the browser, they are located near the thumb)06:31
_adminhi guys, I'm a bit of a linux newbie.  I have a strange problem.  I edited a kernel module, ir-kbd-gpo, recompiled the kernel..  I noticed that my module's ko file size changed from the original version, so it must have compiled OK.  However, when I boot the new kernel, or even if I copy over the module file into the stock kernel module's directory, the module still behaves as if it was the stock original module, and not my modified one..  any ideas what migh06:31
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Dr_Willisgteppel,  ive not noticed X being that much slower.. you could try out a lighter window manager. or it could be your hard drives DMA is disabled or somthing else is slowing down the system,06:32
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Dr_Willishajiki,  i hear they can be used.. i never use them under windows,. so i never bothered06:32
gteppelDr_Willis: i've checked the DMA settings before too06:32
factotum_admin: shot in the dark here, might the module be already compiled into the kernel somehow therfor using original setup?06:33
Dr_Willisonly use i find for the buttions is for the Grenades/Medpack when i Play RTCW:ET06:33
Dr_Willis:P06:33
hajikiheeh, i use them for that too!06:33
gteppelDr_Willis: I'm not sure how to describe what I'm experiencing, its kind of frustrating :-P06:33
factotum_admin: as if something compiled in is over riding your customizations?06:33
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Uchihadoes ubuntu install well on mac mini?06:34
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nybblehey, is popey still on?06:34
Dr_WillisUchiha,  ive used the PPC ubuntu on my imacdv - it ran ok.06:34
factotum_admin: or maybe the order of which its loaded through the rc*.d's?06:34
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UchihaOne more quesion06:35
Uchihation06:35
Uchihaok06:35
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naliothUchiha: it will be fine on the mini06:35
Uchihawill it work with the dial up modem in the mini?06:35
factotum_admin: sorry, random ideas, sorry if they dont help at all06:35
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Dr_WillisDial up! *eww* :P06:36
naliothUchiha: on that i'm not sure (modem)06:36
gtdial up is still used? *vomits*06:36
_adminfacorum:  maybe, but it is compiled as a module..  I'm not sure how it would get overriden06:36
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_adminthe kernel is compiled with initrd, would that do it?06:37
jakeloCan anyone help me with my error?06:37
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gtwhats your major malfunction boy?06:37
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naliothgt: please be civil06:37
gti was nt being mean06:38
gti was asking him what his issue was in a comical manor06:38
gtto stop the monotony06:38
naliothgt: "boy" is considered derogatory to some people/cultures06:38
gtdidnt know that06:38
factotum_admin: whether it has initrd, I dont know, but you may be in the right direction there, may have something to do with what is going on. Maybe not necisarily what, but how its all working together as a process06:38
nybbleHey, anyone have a Dell Laptop?06:38
gti have three06:38
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gtwhat kinds>?06:38
nybbleInspiron 9300 to be exact06:38
nybblei need acpi help06:39
gtnope06:39
factotum_admin: which brings you right back to where your started i suppose...06:39
nybbledang06:39
gtnone of imne ae that new i beleive06:39
nybbleah dang06:39
gtinstalling updats takes time06:39
gtlosts06:39
gtlots06:39
nybbledang...popey has an XPS Gen 2!06:39
nybbleerrr06:39
nybblelol06:39
nybblei'm glad i'm on highspeed.06:39
gteven dling at 566k a second06:39
_adminfactotum:  yeah, I really have no idea06:39
nybblelogin: new update06:39
nybblelogin06:39
nybblenew e06:40
jakeloI'm getting the error "Cannot assign requested address" with running apt-get update and with wget.  Does anyone know how to fix this?06:40
nybbleupdate!06:40
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nybble*new update!06:40
jakelono offense taken.. :D06:40
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naliothjakelo: is that exactly what it says?06:40
XoBelLoXCAN SOME1 HELP ME W/ A PROBLEM?06:40
XoBelLoX????????????06:40
nybbleXoBelox: If you calm down, yes!06:40
factotum_admin: what module is this again?06:40
jakeloI can get the whole line, but that is the error that is common with the two apps.06:40
naliothXoBelLoX: if you'll quit using caps, and ask a question06:41
nybbleXoBelLox: please do not use al capitals!06:41
naliothjakelo: does it say anythin about 'hostname' ?06:41
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nybbleooo.. i better charge my other battery!06:41
jakeloCannot initiate the connection to ca.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (82.211.81.151). -06:41
jakeloconnect (99 Cannot assign requested address) [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 06:42
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XoBelLoXevertime i try to get on a chat room it always says that i have the wrong username or page not found but i am doing everything right06:42
XoBelLoXwt do i do?06:42
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naliothjakelo: ah. a common problem. remove the "ca" and leave it "archive.ubu-ble"06:42
XoBelLoX?????????????????????06:42
naliothXoBelLoX: dont repeat like that06:42
apokryphosXoBelLoX: excessive punctuation is annoying; please do not do it.06:43
XoBelLoXis any1 there06:43
_adminit's an infra-red module for my tv tuner card06:43
XoBelLoXi dont know wt 2 do?06:43
Agrajagno, nobody's here06:43
factotumXoBelLoX: while waiting for an answer, develop a trouble shooting strategy of your own06:43
nalioths_dogXoBelLoX: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.06:43
gti have one for him, its called " knife to throat"06:43
gtjk06:43
_adminfactotum: well thanks for you help anyways!  I'm going to experiment some more06:43
jakelonalioth, I also tried wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.5.27.1_i386.deb06:43
naliothXoBelLoX: whining isnt gonna get an answer for you any quicker06:44
factotum_admin: good luck06:44
naliothjakelo: and got the same error?06:44
jakelowith wget >>> Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com|82.211.81.151|:80... failed: Cannot assign requested address.06:44
XoBelLoXi wasnt whining06:44
XoBelLoX!!!!!!!!!!06:44
ubotuXoBelLoX: I haven't a clue06:44
gtyes you were06:44
nybbleyay! 6354 hours left to charge!06:44
mkyb14if i get a permission denied from a php program, does that mean that i have to give access to the folder? chmod?06:44
naliothXoBelLoX: no more excessive puntuation, please06:44
XoBelLoXno i wasnt06:44
nybblemkyb14: i beleive so06:45
factotummkyb14: sure do06:45
gtwe think you were06:45
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XoBelLoXwell i dont06:46
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jjazzI have a printer attached to my ubuntu box.  I want to let a Win2K box on my LAN print to it.  Googling tells me IPP is the way to go and that I don't need Samba at all.  But when I try to add the printer from Windows, the printer is not found.  Nobody has any info on trouble-shooting-- all the docs say "and then it should work" without saying what to do if it fails. So... what do I do now that it's failed?06:46
nalioth!tell gt about conduct06:46
XoBelLoXi was just asking if any 1 new06:46
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naliothXoBelLoX: ask and wait. read what nalioths_dog said to you06:46
jakeloAnyone have any ideas?06:46
naliothgt: read the CoC, please06:47
nybble!tell nybble about hamsters06:47
factotumjjazz: you MIGHT have to look into permissions from the linux side to get to the printer, that a big maybe though06:47
nybble!tell nybble about acpi06:47
nybblelol06:47
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nybbleworth a shot06:47
jjazzfactotum, I have cupsd.conf set to let anybody and their mama in, so I don't think that's it.06:48
factotumhmmm..06:48
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nybbleok, stupid me again06:48
factotumjjazz: you have the unix printing etc etc installed on the win box?06:48
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snausagescan gnomebaker verify md5sums ?06:49
jjazzfactotum, I have nothing on the win box except Windows.  I was under the impression I could just add this as a network printer from the add-printer dialog.06:49
XoBelLoXhow old r u all06:49
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factotumjjazz: there is something under network protocals I beleiver, that you might have to install from the win cd, having to do with Unix printing06:50
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XoBelLoX?06:50
naliothXoBelLoX: you should ask those questions in #ubuntu-offtopic06:50
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naliothXoBelLoX: this is a help channel, not a socializing one06:50
XoBelLoXhow do i get thier/06:50
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Sonny_WertzikDoes anyone know of a program like Nero Linux but that has support the AMD64 version of Ubuntu?06:50
jjazzfactotum, hmm... I'll look into it.  Thanks for the pointer.06:50
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Dr_WillisSonny_Wertzik,  i find k3b to better then nerolinux in many ways06:51
Sonny_WertzikK3b sounds good...im looking it up now06:51
jdermerwow the torrent im downloading... a lot of the pieces are failing the hash check06:51
nybbleXoBelLox: /join #ubuntu-offtopic06:51
jdermerthink the file is bad ?06:51
nomasteryodak3b is soo cool06:51
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jjazzjdermer, sometimes pieces fail.06:52
jdermeryea06:52
mik3alllllllllll i goitta say is yellow tail merlot rocks06:52
jdermerseems like a couple of em are tho06:52
jdermernot like 1 or 206:52
Sonny_WertzikDr_Willis, K3b ...will it work with gnome?06:52
transgressumm yes06:53
Dr_WillisSonny_Wertzik,  of course06:53
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jjazzjdermer, That happens sometimes.  Hasn't got much to do with the contents of the file.06:53
Dr_Willisi run kde and gnome apps all the time togehter.06:53
Dr_Willis:P06:53
bytefoo_dude yellow tail pwnz06:53
factotumjjazz: anytime06:53
Sonny_Wertzikcool...thanks...it looks good06:53
bytefoo_those aussies can make some wine :|06:53
jjazzmik3, You, sir, are a philistine.06:53
transgressyellow tail?06:53
jdermerk jjaz06:53
jdermerthanx06:53
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jjazzjdermer, np06:53
jjazztransgress, It's a brand of crappy wine06:53
bytefoo_Davey06:53
jdermerim dlin mac osx x86 lol06:53
jdermerto run along side ubuntu06:54
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naliothcan y'all take the wine talk into the wine cellar? #ubuntu-offtopic06:54
jdermerno windows on this machine... never!06:54
transgressjdermer: runs slow as piss06:54
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jdermerum06:54
jdermerit shouldnt06:54
transgressit will06:54
jdermernope06:54
drummer101|afkOkay I've got a quick question... anyone care to take a crack at it?06:54
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jdermernot with native06:54
jdermerand not with the right hardware06:55
delpis there a way to set it so when you restart your computer it will select windows instead of linux for the os to start if you do not select the other....like when  then boot loader comes up you can choose which one, is there a way to make windows default?06:55
transgressi've seen it run on multiple machines06:55
transgressit's gonna run slow as piss06:55
jdermeri got a sse3 enabled intel celeron06:55
transgressyou wanna cookie?06:55
drummer101|afkI cannot change the permissions on my HD....any suggestions..?06:55
jdermera nice aopen 915g mobo06:55
transgressit's gonna run slow as piss06:55
naliothjdermer: transgress osx/x86 in the wine cellar, too please06:55
bytefoo_yes, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst06:55
jdermerure absolutely wrong06:55
bytefoo_and make windows partition the default06:55
naliothdrummer101|afk: what are you trying to do?06:55
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Daveytransgress, do you know this for fact? Because Apple has been building OS on x86 since before its *original* release06:55
drummer101|afkgive write access to a user06:55
transgressDavey: yes they have, but they aren't using a cracked up image now are they?06:56
naliothjakelo: your apt is not broken. the network is having diffecultys atm06:56
drummer101|afk(myself)06:56
Sonny_WertzikDr_Willis, K3b 0.12.2 Debian Sarge Package (i386 only)06:56
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XoBelLoXmy internet messenger isnt working wat do i do?06:56
naliothgentlemen! ! apple/osx/intel talk to the -offtopic room please06:56
bytefoo_it runs faster than on ppc dude :|06:56
Dr_WillisSonny_Wertzik,  huh?  that means nothing to me.06:56
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naliothjakelo: it's not YOUR networking, it is beyond your control (and mine, and everyone elses in here)06:57
Sonny_WertzikDr_Willis,  no amd64.. im running ubuntu 64 bit.  Kb3 is i386 version only06:57
Sonny_Wertzikunfourtuatly06:57
jakeloI know it's not the network because I can still use apt-get on another machine on the same network.06:58
Sonny_Wertzikdang that Kb3 looked good too06:58
Dr_WillisSonny_Wertzik,  that seems odd.. but i gave up on 64bit distros a while back.06:58
transgressumm Sonny_Wertzik i recall using k3b on 64bit06:59
Dr_Willisbut i did think i had k3b working on the 64bit disrto i was testing out.06:59
drummer101|afkapt-get06:59
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drummer101|afker... sorry gents.. :)06:59
transgressin fact... i just ran k3b on 64bit06:59
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Sonny_Wertzikreally...cool ill try it anyways then06:59
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drummer101|afkokay I've got a small prob here07:01
nybbleah.... arguing in ##linux is fun07:01
drummer101|afkI've got two errors during the samba install07:01
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delpim at the menu.lst file, but i can't change it, what am i doing wrong?07:02
drummer101|afkboth I/O failed to write to pipe07:02
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XoBelLoXnaloith~ it seems like u always have something 2 talk about and kinda MEAN!!!!!!!!!!07:02
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sambagirlwhat is command to make yourself invixible on irc? i forgetting sorry to asking this.07:02
jtan325gahhh i am just fresh off a colony 4 install07:02
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jtan325i am having this weird mouse lagging problem07:03
factotumits called not typing har har har... sorry, bad joke07:03
naliothXoBelLoX: is that on topic in here?07:03
apokryphosXoBelLoX: please don't be silly; and if you don't have something relevant to say, then you should be in #ubuntu-offtopic07:03
snausagessambagirl, /mode sambagirl +i07:03
jtan325it was occurring when i upgraded from hoary to breezy07:03
sambagirlthanks07:03
factotumhonestly i dont know07:03
jtan325so i thought a fresh install might fix it07:03
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jtan325but it still happens07:03
XoBelLoXi dont no how 2 get thier or i  would07:03
jtan325basically my mouse seems to "pause" occassionally07:04
jtan325and then scurries across to where it should be...07:04
naliothXoBelLoX: at your text entry line, put "j/ #ubuntu-offtopic"07:04
Tomcat_jtan325: I have no solution, but did you check if other people with your mouse type / mainboard type might have the same problem (Google)?07:04
jtan325ummm i've tried searching the forums07:05
XoBelLoXits not workin07:05
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sambagirlno it not work snausages07:05
transgresshey for breezy would i still get libdvdcss from backports?07:05
jtan325i don't know my mouse/mainboard type07:05
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jtan325i mean, it was fine in hoary07:05
jtan325so...07:05
nybbletransgress: yes, i installed it07:05
drummer101|afkare I/O errors usually because of a failing HD?07:05
delpcan someone help me with changing my default OS07:05
Tomcat_jtan325: I highly doubt you're the only one having that problem...07:05
snausagessambagirl, i'm sorry... which irc client are you using?07:05
XoBelLoXnever mind bye07:05
snausagessambagirl, it should work07:05
XoBelLoXthanx07:06
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sambagirlx-chat for ubuntu07:06
transgressnybble: k thanks07:06
jtan325is there a way to see what your mouse type/mainboard is, Tomcat_07:06
jtan325?07:06
mik3bz07:06
snausagessambagirl, same here... and it works.07:06
sambagirl2.4.207:06
transgress!dvd07:06
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras07:06
mik3bx > *07:06
sambagirlumm07:06
transgress!backports07:06
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports07:06
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nybbleno problem, transgress07:06
Tomcat_jtan325: Mouse type is usually on the bottom of the mouse... mainboard type... that's difficult. :\07:06
sambagirlit is on amiganet and i having issues with them they might being doing this on purpose.07:06
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soonf00how is the Breezy preview for everyone on a fresh install?07:06
snausagesnot sure ;\07:06
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michelFirst time Linux user here07:07
jtan325this isn't even just my external usb mouse that's having the problem07:07
transgressi'm not on a fresh install myself... i upgraded... and it's working grand07:07
soonf00any major Breezy issues?07:07
sambagirlthey entering into an invite private channel i setup and op'ing each other. grr07:07
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jtan325breezy preview?07:07
nybbletransgress, as am i07:07
sambagirlchao07:07
geekchic9michel: How do you like Ubuntu so far?07:07
soonf00jtan325, yea, the new version of Ubuntu07:07
transgressnybble: did you do hoary-extras still?07:07
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jtan325oooooh man07:07
jtan325i should've installed that07:07
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jtan325i just burned colony 407:08
jtan325crap07:08
soonf00jtan325, well it is a preview release07:08
sambagirli think linspire or lindows is beter ;)07:08
michelIam liking, Primarly a MAC user07:08
transgresssambagirl: don't troll07:08
snausagesheheh07:08
sambagirltroll?07:08
soonf00how are opinions trolling ... lol07:08
naliothmichel: welcome to linux07:08
transgress!hoary-extras07:08
ubotusomebody said hoary-extras was see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted07:08
michelThank you07:08
sambagirlwhat you meaning troll?07:08
transgresssoonf00: coming into #ubuntu to say you like lindows better is pretty well trolling...07:08
soonf00well, has anyone install Breezy?07:09
apokryphossoonf00: of course stating an opinion can be a troll07:09
geekchic9michel: I was a Mac user till I tried Debian and Ubuntu.07:09
naliothsambagirl: starting heated discussions over what is best07:09
michelHow do I change the sound themes?07:09
sambagirlbah is just typing noise sheesh.07:09
sambagirlnow i a troll07:09
naliothsambagirl: you can discuss to your hearts content the virtues of anything you like in #ubuntu-offtopic07:09
sambagirlbah07:09
transgressnybble: so did you answer... did you use hoary extras for libdvdcss still or is there a breezy section?07:09
michelWell it was either Wntel on my PC or Ubuntu, I still use my PB as well07:10
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drummer101|afkerhm.. anyone have any ideas for my samba problems...?07:10
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bob2drummer101|afk: yes, I/O errors from a hard disk device are usually failing disks07:10
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michelWhat is Breezy?07:10
bob2drummer101|afk: sometimes kernel bugs07:10
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bob2michel: the upcoming Ubuntu release07:10
michelah07:10
soonf00michel, the next release of Ubuntu07:10
dbzdeathyeah its pretty sad when someone comes into a channel full of ppl who like ubuntu and say i don't like it etc. i mean do you have nothing better to do than start a flame war?07:10
soonf00!breezy07:10
sambagirlwhat is the musical channel for ubuntu?07:10
sambagirlfor musicians software discussion and things07:11
transgress!dvd07:11
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras07:11
michelIs Breezy in Beta release, or Fll07:11
drummer101|afkbob2 okay... so how would one correct that?07:11
transgressherm07:11
transgressi put in hoary-extras but no libdvdcss207:11
naliothmichel: official breezy release is oct 1307:11
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sambagirlwhatever is breezy?07:12
michelCool.  Is it difficult to upgrade?07:12
transgressit's the newest version of ubuntu07:12
apokryphosubotu: tell sambagirl about breezy07:12
transgressit's in a preview release atm07:12
naliothmichel: not at all. apt-get will do it easily07:12
sambagirlautomatic teller machine?07:12
michelAre there significant upgrades with Breezy07:13
dbzdeathbreezy isn't stable yet... right? so probably not a good idea to be using it IMO07:13
geekchic9!tell geekchic9 about breezy07:13
apokryphosmichel: yes07:13
sambagirl!tell sambagirl about breezy07:13
dbzdeathat least it wasn't stable last time i checked07:13
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michelCool, well I must finish the install, see you all later.  THanks for the info and brief chat.07:14
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transgressit's pretty stable atm dbzdeath07:14
transgressit's a preview release... full release is due out next month i believe07:14
transgress!hoary-extras07:15
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted07:15
snausagesit's in the topic, geez07:15
snausagesoct. 1307:15
bob2drummer101|afk: replacing it07:15
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bob2dbzdeath: it's ok to use if you're willing to deal with potential bugs, and report them so they can be fixed07:15
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transgressdamn it all... where is libdvdcss2 hiding...07:15
dbzdeathbob2: yeah ... well i'd rather not have bugs :)07:16
dbzdeathtransgress: you on amd64?07:16
bob2otoh, if no one tests it before release, the release itself will be screwed07:16
dbzdeathotoh?07:16
transgressdbzdeath: yes07:16
nickrudahuman01, but the question is, who's doing the testing07:17
dbzdeathtransgress: thats why.. can't get it on amd64 yet afaik07:17
nickrudah!07:17
dbzdeathnot sure if its a ubuntu issue or just doesn't run yet07:17
nickrudahuman01, sorry07:17
transgressi grabbed the marillat package before... that worked fine ... perhaps i'll do that again07:17
bob2if you're not using i386, you do need to mention that in your question07:17
drummer101|afkbob2 I've reinstalled ubuntu 5 times07:17
bob2(generally)07:17
bob2drummer101|afk: how would that fix your disk?07:17
drummer101|afkbob2 I thought you were talking about the kernel :)07:18
mkyb14anyone here know anything about the BUM boot manager????07:18
bob2I/O error = broken disk, generally07:18
bob2reinstalling the identical bersion of ubuntu is not going to fix a kernel bug, either, if that is the problem07:18
drummer101|afkgreat... well I guess I'll go buy a new HD then :-P07:18
arkeyhola07:18
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arkeyhablan espaol?07:18
nalioth!es07:19
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:19
arkeyok07:19
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drummer101|afkwell it worked before... so i'll wager it's a bad disk07:19
mkyb14anyone here know anything about the BUM boot manager????07:19
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thenukearkey: you may also want to ask your question in here in english too07:19
poningrucan someone help with bugzilla searching?07:19
mkyb14!info bum07:19
poningru!bum07:19
ubotufrom memory, bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html07:19
dbzdeaththenuke: assuming he can speak english07:19
enchanterthere is a topic in ubuntuforum07:19
bob2mkyb14: it's way easier if you ask your question07:20
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bob2and not use so many question marks; one is plenty07:20
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thenukedbzdeath: I said .."you may.." or may not :)07:20
mkyb14ok. sudo apt-get install bum doens't owrk07:20
SuperQhas anyone tried dist-upgrade from sarge to breezy?07:20
mkyb14work07:20
dbzdeaththenuke: true :)07:20
poningrumkyb14: do you have the repository that has it checked?07:21
transgressSuperQ: i wouldn't suggest it07:21
bob2mkyb14: you need to define "doesn't work".  it's not in any of the regular hoary repositories, perhaps that is your problem?07:21
mkyb14i dunno07:21
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mkyb14so how do i get it then07:21
SuperQtransgress: hrm07:21
SuperQtransgress: any specific reason?07:21
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dbzdeathmkyb14: create your own .deb or just grab the source and compile it07:22
SuperQ<- not a noob07:22
mkyb14hmm07:22
SuperQjust for the record :)07:22
bob2or just instal lbum fro mthe available package07:22
dbzdeathmkyb14: the latter isn't hard ... just download the source package and follow the instructions in the README or INSTALL file07:22
mkyb14yea i'm donwloading it now07:23
poningrumkyb14: you also may wanna try the backports07:23
transgressSuperQ: well i haven't seen sarge-breezy, but i did see sarge-hoary07:23
dbzdeathbob2: does the package exist?07:23
transgressSuperQ: and it wasn't pretty07:23
mkyb14?07:23
bob2yes07:23
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dbzdeathhmm not in amd64 then07:23
bob2I wish backports weren't mixed in with "new, Free software"07:23
SuperQtransgress: yea.. but there is a greater difference between the two transitions07:23
SuperQ647 upgraded, 219 newly installed, 42 to remove and 4 not upgraded.07:23
SuperQhaha07:23
SuperQwoof!07:23
bob2sarge hoary is a downgrade07:23
dbzdeathmkyb14: you using amd64 by any chance/07:24
bob2in many cases07:24
dbzdeath?07:24
bob2e.g. libc607:24
SuperQbob2: exactly07:24
mik3hoary is a stable downgrade =P07:24
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mik3don't lie to the folk07:24
bob2sarge breezy is probably less hassle07:24
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bob2mik3: ?07:24
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drummer101|afkwhat would "error in buffer_read(stream)" mean...?07:24
mik3i've heard nothing but bitching about the people who have upgraded to breezy07:24
tgahey. is there a nice Gnome/GTK2 frontend to gpg?07:24
mkyb14heh my windows machine is a amd 64 4000+ ... and hte box is a amd 2000+07:24
naliothtga: you can try seahorse. i use kgpg when i want a gui (use the terminal mostly)07:25
dbzdeathmkyb14: i386 then? because there is a ubuntu package for i386 apparantly07:25
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dbzdeathbob2: is it in backports?07:25
dbzdeathbum that is07:25
mkyb14it installs i686 and 38607:25
bob2dbzdeath: so it seems07:25
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dbzdeathbob2: whats the repositories bot command thingy?07:25
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lastnodei finally got my wifi usb to work with the rt2570 driver07:26
lastnodei run dhclient07:26
lastnodeand it finds the gateway etc07:26
bob2!+repositories07:26
ubotusomebody said repositories was probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96907:26
dbzdeathyeah07:26
lastnodeand aquiires an ip07:26
lastnodebut then it times out07:26
dbzdeathmkyb14: read the above and add in the backports repository07:26
lastnodeany fixes?07:26
cafuegotga: seahorse07:27
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lastnodestrengthening wifi, anyone?07:27
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cafuegolastnode: Move closer to the AP.07:28
mik3lastnode : yagi antenna07:28
mik3cafuego : haha07:28
transgresslastnode: is it a wireless b/g router?07:28
lastnodecafuego, its fine on windows07:28
lastnodeim using it now07:28
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naliothlastnode: use a cat5 antenna07:28
lastnodetransgress, yeah07:28
naliothbob2: have a nice time07:28
mkyb14how do i know which reposotory for the backports07:28
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mkyb14whatever that is07:28
nalioth(it'll havta be better than my breezy upgrade)07:28
dbzdeathnalioth: cat5 antenna? ...07:28
transgresslastnode: is it on wireless g?07:28
lastnodealso, the back of the laptop has a socket hole with the ((-))--> logo07:29
transgresslastnode: if you drop it to b it'll probably double the strength, but lower the speed of course07:29
naliothdbzdeath: a joke. ditch the wireless and plug in07:29
lastnodebut it doesnt find awifi card without the usb07:29
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lastnodetransgress, how come it works alright in windows?07:29
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lastnodebut dies under ubuntu?07:29
lastnode?driver probs"07:29
dbzdeathnalioth: i figured... just was making sure there wasn't some crazy thing about using a cat5 cable to boost the signal somehow :/07:29
jakeloHmm... it seems I can ssh and http into the machine but I can't seem to get out other than ping.  Anyone know what might be wrong?07:29
transgresslastnode: linux god hates you?07:29
dell500is it possible to have Evolution seperate your mail from mailbox to mailbox?  like assign different folders for different addresses to keep it sorted07:30
lastnodetransgress, that's a possibility, yes07:30
mkyb14??07:30
bob2usb wireless things tend to be undocumented and to be terrible hardware07:30
mkyb14how do i know which reposotory for the backports07:30
thenukejakelo: problems with name servers propablt07:30
dbzdeathmkyb14: down the very bottom07:30
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naliothdbzdeath: boosts it quite nicely, lol07:30
dbzdeathmkyb14: Specific Non Ubuntu Repositories07:30
transgresshmm07:30
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jakelothenuke, how would I resolve this?07:31
transgressanyone know why vlc won't install in breezy?07:31
bob2thenuke: how would nameserver problems cause that?07:31
transgresshas unmet deps...07:31
mkyb14i don't have that one07:31
dbzdeathmkyb14: yeah add that one in :)07:31
naliothmkyb14: the lines with the word "backport" in them are the ones07:31
bob2jakelo: your problem is just that you can't get out fro ma machine aside from ping?07:31
bob2transgress: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood07:31
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bob2Debian never had half as many apt problems as Ubuntu07:31
jakelobob2, that seems to be the issue07:31
Ice9how can I delete a directory in the terminal?07:31
transgressbob2: one sec and i will... gotta get on irc on my lappy07:31
dbzdeathbob2: i haven't seen in apt problems so far? on either to be honest07:32
nickrudbob2, that's cuz debian never made sources.list difficult07:32
mkyb14still not added?07:32
bob2all these people using non-ubuntu repositories without having any idea what they're doing will be the death of us07:32
bob2nickrud: in what way is it "difficult" in ubuntu?07:32
lastnodetransgress, anything i can do to as a keep alive?07:32
lastnodeapart from ping?07:32
bob2jakelo: is it an ubuntu machine?07:32
bob2dbzdeath: you're not adding silly things to your sources.list :)07:32
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dbzdeathmkyb14: add that resource into /etc/apt/sources.list then run the command sudo apt-get update07:32
nickrudbob2, the thing I was thinking of, pales, next to backports and such07:32
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thenukebob2: I just thought that could ping ip addresses but could not surf the web for example07:32
bob2nickrud: yes, backports is a huge problem07:32
dbzdeathbob2: ahh i see... yes i'm a well behaved ubuntu + debian user ;)07:33
bob2the root seems to be that the people who want backports are not generally people with the skills to reliabily do so07:33
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mkyb14form the terminal or the gui synaptic07:33
bob2dbzdeath: hehe07:33
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bimberiIce9: rmdir <dirname> (if it's empty), rm -rf <dirname> (if it's not, and you're sure)07:33
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nickrudalready, I've heard of people talking about firefox 1.5 in a breezy backport ;)07:33
soonf00Anyone name the major issues cith Breezy Badger preview CD install release yet?07:33
jakelobob2, yup07:33
bob2thenuke: how could dns do that? once the name is resolved (as ping working demonstrates), dns does not enter into it07:33
naliothsoonf00: it's a preview release?07:33
bob2jakelo: default settings? ie, no manually setup firewall?07:33
soonf00nalioth, @chan title07:34
jakelobob2,  there was no firewall that was set up that I know of.07:34
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transgressbob2: it's pasted in #flood07:34
transgress_bob2: it's in #flood07:34
naliothsoonf00: what?07:34
transgresswow lag07:34
bob2jakelo: can you ssh to other machines on the same lane?07:35
soonf00nalioth, look at the channel title07:35
jakelonope07:35
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soonf00topic07:35
jakelonothing out it seems07:35
bob2transgress: something ate some newlines there07:36
bob2transgress: what does "apt-cache policy vlc" say?07:36
soonf00bob2, you running Breezy or installed it anywhere?07:36
bob2jakelo: but you can ping other machines on the lan, and on the interweb?07:36
bob2soonf00: upgrading atm, actually07:36
nalioth!tell soonf00 about breezy07:36
jakelobob2, yup07:36
Christianhmmm i found a bug in the installer on gray hair    but i don't know exactly what it is.   it fell into a loop    the cd boots ok but the installer loops infinitle   i rebooted and tried server and low mem but it always loops07:36
soonf00nalioth, yes i know this -- i want actual user experience!07:37
transgress_bob2: again it's in #flood07:37
tgathanks nalioth, seahorse seems alright07:37
naliothsoonf00: if you run ppc, i advise waiting until official release07:37
soonf00bob2, upgrading to Breezy from Hoary borked me -- so im trying a fresh install07:38
bob2soonf00: please do file bugs07:38
soonf00i was running AMD6407:38
jakelobob2, ideas?07:38
bob2nalioth: have you reported all the issues you had?07:38
naliothsoonf00: i've not heard of any major problems from the x86 or amd64 users (unless they want some exotic package)07:38
transgressi am running amd64 and the upgrade has worked grandly for me thus far... how odd07:38
bob2jakelo: did it used to work?07:38
soonf00im going back to i386, because packages are much more available07:38
naliothbob2: at bugzilla?07:38
bob2nalioth: yes07:38
jakeloyup07:38
soonf00i needed drscheme and sdk1.507:38
soonf00both were much trouble07:39
dbzdeathsoonf00: yeah... sometimes i'm tempted to switch to i386 myself... such a pain07:39
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naliothbob2: i wouldnt know where to start (my ubuntu was riddled with those darned user installed files)07:39
naliothsoonf00: dbzdeath: you'll not see any major differences using 68607:39
scott1967hey everyone- we are new to linux, but have had a smooth ride so far using ubuntu.07:39
soonf00transgress, X died on me after the upgrade07:40
soonf00transgress, and for some reason libc was mangled too07:40
dbzdeathnalioth: more packages...  and no flash codec issues etc.07:40
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bob2nalioth: if people don't use ppc until release, the release will be just as broken as preview07:40
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naliothbob2: ah. now it's my turn to smack my head07:41
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bob2jakelo: what did you change since it last worked?07:41
bob2nalioth: someone has to go through the rough ride and file all the bigs07:41
soonf00i just tried vanilla debian, but it sucks -- back to ubuntu @ breezy07:41
bob2er, bugs07:41
bob2soonf00: "sucks"?07:41
naliothbob2: most of my problem was a blankety-blank lib i compiled (from source ubuntu repos) didnt want to upgrade properly07:42
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jakelonothing that I know of...but I'm not the only one with access to it.07:42
soonf00bob2, the problem is that it asked me too many questions that I didnt want to answer07:42
abarbacciahey all - i need totem to play .mid files - how do i go about that07:42
bob2soonf00: e.g.?07:42
abarbaccia?07:42
soonf00bob2, im lazy07:42
soonf00bob2, what is my default locale?07:42
dbzdeathhahaha yeah the questions can be a pain07:42
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dbzdeathsoonf00: most of the time you can just hit enter :P07:42
dbzdeathdefaults are fine07:42
soonf00bob2, what message severity do i need to see?07:42
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bob2soonf00: it should just ask you for a lanuage07:42
bob2soonf00: high07:42
bob2or critical if you're really lazy07:43
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lastnodeok this time it just hung on me07:43
jjazzI have cups printing to my printer just fine.  How do I see whether its broadcasting it's ipp info properly?07:43
soonf00bob2, no it asks for many things -- and in the default config things did not work -- like my CPU frequency scaling for my laptop07:43
lastnodebtw how can i avoid doing insmod everytime i boot up07:43
soonf00Hoary worked just fine with CPU freq scaling07:43
bob2soonf00: yes, that would require you to install cpufreqd07:43
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bob2lastnode: don't ever use insmod07:43
dbzdeathhas anyone here successfully debootstrapped a ubuntu system?07:43
bob2lastnode: you can add module names to /etc/modules if they need to be manually loaded at boot07:44
bob2dbzdeath: yes07:44
soonf00bob2, i dont care, what laziness comes down to is "does it work out of the box with minimal config"07:44
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lastnodebob2, i use the rt2750 driver07:44
bob2indeed07:44
transgressbob2: did you get any clues what was up with vlc?07:44
lastnodeand i have to load that using insmod07:44
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lastnodebut what's wrong with it?07:44
steveO_OfficeQuick ? on gtkwifi how do I go about setting the ESSID ?07:44
dbzdeathbob2: hmmm i ran into problems with initrd when i tried... i've previously done debian but not ubuntu07:44
cevizogluaside from bc, what's the equivalent of the command-line calculator "calc" for ubuntu?07:44
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lastnodethe machine hangs though when i use dhclient after that07:44
soonf00bob2, if someone tells me that "all you have to do is..." well it is just one more thing that is not automated that should be07:44
cevizoglucalc in the packages list is something entirely different, for emacs07:45
bob2soonf00: did you file a bug asking that cpufreqd be installed by the laptop metapackage?07:45
dbzdeathhaha soonf00 you sound like someone i know... ppl these days so lazy07:45
transgressah well i got ogle to work... that should do for the moment07:45
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abarbacciaanybody know a gstreamer plugin to play midi files?07:45
CaiN_SAits just dandy im using all my cap cos every day i have to update 80 mb , atleast i know lots of stuffs are getting fixed07:45
bob2abarbaccia: I'd just timidity07:45
lastnodebob2, how do i load something in to /etc/modules?07:45
CaiN_SAedit it07:46
bob2lastnode: as I said, add the module name07:46
CaiN_SAas root07:46
lastnodebob2, syntax?07:46
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dbzdeathLasseL: what CaiN_SA said.. but it is /etc/modules.conf07:46
soonf00bob2, for Debian?07:46
bob2lastnode: same as every other file that has a list of things in it07:46
transgresslastnode: just put it on a blank line by itself07:46
bob2lastnode: one module name per line07:46
bob2soonf00: yes07:46
soonf00bob2, i asked in the chan and someone said "all you have to do is ..."07:46
bob2if not, I revoke your right to bitch on IRC about it07:46
CaiN_SAbob2, but initramfs scans hardware and modules itself ?07:46
bob2soonf00: bitching on irc != fileing bug07:46
lastnodeso vi /etc/modules.conf?07:46
CaiN_SAlol bob207:46
bob2lastnode: no, /etc/modules07:46
jakelobob2, do you have any other ideas or at least point me in a direction?  I'm out of ideas, (other than reinstall.)07:46
bob2CaiN_SA: no07:47
tgaevery time I start Evolution evolution-data-server eats up all my cpu07:47
soonf00bob2, the thing is, i dont even know if it is a bug or intentional07:47
lastnodevi /etc/modules?07:47
bob2jakelo: if someone else had root, it could be anything07:47
CaiN_SAmodules.conf = linux 2.4 kernels07:47
lastnodeand add rt2570.ko07:47
lastnode?07:47
bob2lastnode: however you edit files07:47
bob2lastnode: no07:47
dbzdeathlastnode: sorry my mistake yeah /etc/modules07:47
lastnodesorry about this07:47
bob2lastnode: the module name is rt57007:47
lastnodenever done this ebfore07:47
bob2CaiN_SA: initramfs is just like initrd, it just holds modulesd needed for boot07:47
lastnodeok thanks07:47
lastnodeso /etc/modules will just open as a list of modules in vi?07:48
bob2CaiN_SA: I thin kthe kernel uses hotplug to look up the pci id or whatever to find the module07:48
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soonf00bob2, ok fine can you link me to the right place for Debian laptop bugs/issues?07:48
bob2it's just a text file07:48
abarbacciawhat program should i use to play midi files?07:48
bob2open it already07:48
bob2abarbaccia: timidity07:48
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jakelobob2,  I figure it might be bind with what I've read... but I don't knwo what bind does.07:48
bob2soonf00: bugs.debian.org or the debian-laptop list07:48
lastnodebob2, also curious - why did you say to never use insmod?07:48
bz0bcan someone tell me why my gcc wont compile this? http://downloads.securityfocus.com/vulnerabilities/exploits/HOD-ms05039-pnp-expl.c07:48
transgressah the sid package for amd64 libdvdcss2 works grandly.  yay07:48
bob2jakelo: no, bind does not have the ability to randomly drop packets07:48
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CaiN_SAbob2, ah ok. on distrowatch they said ubuntu uses initramfs for hardware detection07:48
soonf00bz0b, lol07:48
Christianany way to circumvent this installer loop    suggestions ?07:48
shirotsumehi all.07:49
jakelobob2,  not random.... happening each time.07:49
bob2lastnode: use modprobe instead; insmod is dumber and doesn't know how to load dependencies07:49
soonf00bz0b, you need to cast a few things there07:49
bimberilastnode: modprobe is safer (handles module dependencies)07:49
bob2jakelo: bind does not have that ability07:49
lastnodegreat07:49
lastnodeso maybe that's why im dying07:49
bob2CaiN_SA: that sounds like distrowatch being crap07:49
lastnodewhat's the modprobe syntax?07:49
lastnodemodprobe rt57007:49
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lastnode?07:49
CaiN_SAbob2, ok ok07:49
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bob2lastnode: yes07:49
soonf00bz0b, why dont you just use Metasploit?07:49
vitriolis it possible to migrate all mail and settings from thunderbird to evolution?07:49
nickrudtransgress, I think I'd be afraid to look at your package list :)07:49
shirotsumeanyone with an idea how i can change the time settings loaded at bootup and saving change from gmt to local?07:49
bz0bsoonf00, where can I get that?07:49
lastnodethanks guys, try and brb07:49
CaiN_SAlastnode, rtfm :P07:49
soonf00google@metasploit07:50
vitrioli'm having a heck of a time figuring this out07:50
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bob2bz0b: you'd need to give gcc the correct arguments, and that would need to be source suitable for unix07:50
soonf00bz0b, think its metasploit.org07:50
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bob2shirotsume: sudo base-config07:50
soonf00bob2, it is07:50
bob2vitriol: mail, yes07:50
shirotsumety!07:50
vitriolbob2: how?07:51
bob2vitriol: thunderbid doesn't have an import function?07:51
vitriolbob2: using evolutions import feature i'm not having much luck :(07:51
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vitriolbob2: i'm trying to import into evolution07:51
bob2vitriol: breezy?07:51
vitriolbob2: yes07:51
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bob2vitriol: please file a bug07:51
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vitriolbob2: a bug?!07:52
vitriolthere's no bug07:52
benplautis there a way to make desktop icons without text, so it blends well into the background?07:52
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vitrioli just don't know how to import mail07:52
TraceGreenhello, Does anyone try to use partimage in liveCD?07:52
benplautTraceGreen, many try, few survive07:52
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benplautj/k :P07:52
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benplautnickrud, anything involving beurocracy?07:53
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TraceGreenbenplaut, i tried partimage in knoppix, but find some problems.07:54
nickrudbenplaut, nah, just find the right person. (easier said than done :)07:54
benplautTraceGreen, i can't quite help you... i just hang around here and make witty comments :P07:54
TraceGreenbenplaut, anyway, thanks very much.07:55
CaiN_SATraceGreen, well this aint knoppix07:55
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TraceGreenCaiN_SA, yeah, i know. sorry.07:55
tgadid anyone else experience evolution causing high cpu load?07:56
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Kyttenhi07:56
nickrudtga, often, less so over the years. I just killed it. I've never lost any mail over it.07:57
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tganickrud, evolution-data-server-1.2 hangs every time I start gaim with evo integration and now evo by itself.. 100% cpu load07:57
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Kytteni need help with fixing my modom , i did install it but it's not working , anyone can help me07:58
shirotsumeah at least. worked fine. thanks bob2 and have a nice day all07:58
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nickrudtga, please tell me you've abstracted your mail store from your mail client.07:59
tgaimap all the way07:59
bob2hah07:59
Kytteni wanna post something07:59
Kyttenso u can help me07:59
cafuegogaim with evo integration?08:00
nickrudwhew. Wipe out .evolution, and restart. It's roundabout, but works08:00
Kytten myself@Home:/media/floppy$ sudo dpkg -i sl-mod~1.deb(Reading database ... 58610 files and directories currently installed.)Preparing to replace sl-modem-daemon 2.9.9a-1ubuntu4 (using sl-mod~1.deb) ...Shutting down SmartLink Modem driver normally ... no slmodemd daemon running.Unpacking replacement sl-modem-daemon ...Setting up sl-modem-daemon (2.9.9a-1ubuntu4) ...Loading ALSA modem driver into kernel ... done.Starting SmartLink Modem driver for: .Creating 08:00
cafuegoIs that something new I didn't get a memo for?08:00
tgacafuego, there's a plugin for gaim that allows you to select an evo contact when you add a new buddy08:00
cafuegotga: Ah ok, not for me then.08:00
tgaI like my toys to talk to each other08:01
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Kyttenit's pointing to: /dev/ttySL0 but once i go to configure it dosent work08:01
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Kyttenanyone can help me08:01
cafuegoKytten: Can they?08:01
Kytteni installed that chipset software08:02
tganickrud, now the question is how do you abstract your contact list from evo08:02
Kyttenand pointing to: /dev/ttySL008:02
nickrudtga, ldap08:02
Kyttenit's pointing to: /dev/ttySL0 but once i go to configure it dosent work08:02
tganickrud, using ldap to store an address book seems like overkill to me08:02
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bob2Kytten: " go to configure"?08:02
Kyttenk08:02
lastnodebob2, i cant do modprobe08:02
nickrudtga, absraction from things that break is not overkill08:03
lastnodeit says no module found] 08:03
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Kyttenwhat do u there bob208:03
Kyttencuz i tried it08:03
Kyttennot working08:03
CaiN_SAeish08:03
CaiN_SAgrammer :(08:03
Kyttenmy modem in com 308:03
bimberispelling :(08:03
Kyttenand that install pointing to: /dev/ttySL008:04
nickrudbut, I just backup the contact list regularly, it's less over head :)08:04
CaiN_SAwhy ttySL0 ?08:04
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CaiN_SAwhat modem is that ? analog or isdn ?08:04
Kyttenmy modem analog08:04
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bob2Kytten: you're being too vague08:05
CaiN_SAah08:05
lastnodebob2?08:05
bob2Kytten: how on earth are you trying to configure it?08:05
CaiN_SAthen make it to : /dev/ttyS008:05
bob2lastnode: then you didn't install the module properly08:05
CaiN_SAbob2, her com port is wrong08:05
lastnodeit asked me to untar08:05
Kyttenyes it's installed08:05
lastnodeand run make inside /Module/08:05
Kytteni will show u08:05
lastnodei did08:05
bob2CaiN_SA: no, it will be a bizarro port, since it's using a binary driver08:05
bimberiCaiN_SA: I think we're talking smartlink here08:05
bob2Kytten: no, stop08:05
bob2Kytten: tell us what tool you're trying to use to configure it08:05
Kyttenk08:05
lastnodeinsmod takes the .ko extension08:05
lastnodebut modprobe doesnt08:06
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CaiN_SAlastnode, ya08:06
lastnodehey Lethal-Rocks08:06
Lethal-RocksHey lastnode08:06
cafuego*wow*08:06
lastnodei got the driver untarred08:06
Kyttensl-modem-modules-2.6.10-5-386_2.9.9a-1ubuntu2+2.6.10-34_i38608:06
Lethal-RocksYa and compiled?08:06
lastnodeand it works with insmod08:06
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Kyttenthe one u pointed me for08:06
lastnodeyeah08:06
bob2lastnode: then you haven't installed it properly08:06
lastnodei did make in /Module/08:06
bob2Kytten: that has nothign to do with configuring it08:06
Kyttenyup08:07
Lethal-RocksOh, I think mine went somewhere else08:07
bob2Kytten: now run 'sudo pppconfig'08:07
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lastnodebob2, i dont follow at all :(08:07
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Kytteni congfigure it with ppp08:07
Kyttendailaup configration08:07
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lastnodeLethal-Rocks, after i do insmod and run dhclient, it works for a little08:07
lastnodeand then times out08:07
lastnodeor alternatively, the system just hands08:07
lastnode*hangs08:07
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bob2lastnode: if it doesn't work, why are you bothering to make it load automatically?08:08
Lethal-Rockslastnode, did you doo the alias command?08:08
CaiN_SAerm i still think it might be what i said but ok08:08
bob2Kytten: ignore that and run the command I gave you08:08
furicHow would i go about getting the sun java plugin in firefox?08:08
aftertaf!info imagemagick08:08
ubotuimagemagick: (Image manipulation programs), section graphics, is optional. Version: 6:6.0.6.2-2.1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1430 kB, Installed size: 5200 kB08:08
bob2furic: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java08:08
lastnodeLethal-Rocks, as in?08:08
Kyttenonce i installed that moudles told me everything installed and pointed me to: /dev/ttySL0 but once i tried that configration tool dosent work08:08
cafuegofuric: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java08:08
lastnodeiwconfig finds rausb008:08
furicty08:08
Lethal-Rockssomething like echo "alias rausb0 rt2570" | <can'tremember>08:09
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Kyttenwhat command bob208:09
cafuegoLethal-Rocks: /etc/modutils/rausb08:09
bob2Kytten: sudo pppconfig08:09
cafuegoLethal-Rocks: But with '>' and not '|'.08:09
Kytteni should type that in terminal08:09
Lethal-Rockscafuego, it's on the wiki, so I beleive it :P08:10
bob2Kytten: yes08:10
Kyttenbut the file which i installed from floppy , should i go to floppy again08:10
cafuegoLethal-Rocks: No, the wiki doesn't say to echo that into a pipe. Or if it does, it's wrong.08:10
Kyttenor it's over08:10
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bob2Kytten: ignore all that08:11
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Lethal-Rockscafuego, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo Under "And what if I don't need RaConfig"08:11
lastnodeLethal-Rocks, is that after insmod?08:11
Kyttenk08:11
Kytteni will try it now08:11
Lethal-Rocksinsmod was a test08:11
Kyttenand ty for helping  me08:11
Lethal-RocksThis is supposedly to start the driver automatically08:11
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cafuegoLethal-Rocks: Ah, to tee.08:12
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cafuegoLethal-Rocks: yeah, '>' is the same as '| tee'08:12
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Lethal-RocksYeah, I couldn't remember until I went there :P08:12
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Cryptidi am having trouble playing .avi files the video keeps skiping i am sure that there is no problem with the files so i removed the gstram and w32codes, will it help if i just install the w32codecs, i mean will the codecs help to play other file formats08:13
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tganalioth, seahorse doesn't know about key servers :\08:13
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cafuegotga: It does on breezy08:14
naliothtga: seahorse isnt the greatest frontend, try kgpg08:14
naliothtga: also read up on gpg settings, you can add keyservers in your gpg settings08:14
tgaI don't want any kde apps08:14
humeis there a way to get the standard debian menu to be included in the KDE and Gnome menus in ubuntu? having trouble navigating the menus08:14
bob2hm, my nautilus icons are gone08:15
bob2hume: install menu08:15
tgaI'm mostly using gpg in the console08:15
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naliothtga: then read up on using gpg08:15
bitjeanyone knows when 5.10 will be out ?08:15
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Lethal-Rocksbitje, Oct 1308:15
naliothtga http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/874608:16
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LootBeerhow do i know what cd burners i have in my box???08:16
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bitjehmm.. and I thought that we where living in October.. hmm.. it is September now.. ;)08:16
bimberibob2: file a bug (sorry, couldn't resist) :)08:16
GrannyTuxcan anyone help with an install question08:17
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thenukeGrannyTux: propably, just ask :)08:17
bob2bimberi: hah08:17
GrannyTuxi have two 4 gig hard drive would like to install ubuntu08:17
Dr_Willis4 gb?08:18
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GrannyTuxand need suggestions on what should be on each08:18
Dr_Willisor do ya mean 40gb? I hope...08:18
thenukegig = gb08:18
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GrannyTuxno this is an old p308:18
tgathanks nalioth, I know about console gpg, I was just curious about a nice front end08:18
Dr_Willisewwwwww08:18
thenukeubuntu fits into 4gb perfectly08:18
Dr_Willis:P08:18
GrannyTuxusing up spare part for a give away08:18
nickrudGrannyTux, make one root, and one home08:18
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naliothtga: i've used seahorse and prefer kgpg (i usually use the console)08:18
nickrudenough to play with08:18
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chestyhello, how do I automate the installation of a single package that uses debconf?08:19
GrannyTuxya but i would like to separte the home and mabye var i don't know08:19
MadpilotGrannyTux: Ubuntu takes up about 1.7Gb on install, so a 4GB drive is fine...08:19
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humebob2, after install of menus, i can run update-menus, but that doesn't give me the debian submenu - is there a way to do that?08:19
ptlria001is this a tech chat room or just normal chat?08:19
Madpilotptlria001: tech, except when it isn't ;)08:19
thenukeptlria001: official help channel08:19
humebob2, sorry, now it just did appear.....08:20
nickrudGrannyTux, forget about /var and such on other partitions, unless you want to make it a server08:20
h4zndo any of you know how to install Linux on my Palm 31?08:20
soonf00Anyone else notice Right-click "Laucnh Terminal" missing on the Gnome desktop in Breezy?08:20
thenukeh4zn: try google08:20
lastnode_Lethal-Rocks, ok rebooting08:20
lastnode_followed the wiki tutorial step by step08:20
blastradiusHi people08:20
nickrudhume, I needed to get menu-xdg to get the debian menu08:20
GrannyTuxthx nic08:20
Cryptidplz help ,i am having trouble playing .avi files the video keeps skiping i am sure that there is no problem with the files so i removed the gstram and w32codes, will it help if i just install the w32codecs, i mean will the codecs help to play other file formats08:21
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blastradiusCryptid, can't hurt can it.08:21
soonf00Anyone have Breezy installed?08:22
ubuntuhello all08:22
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lastnode_oh08:22
ubuntuhow the heck do i enable sound in hoary?08:22
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bob2ubuntu: it's already enabled08:22
ubuntuhow?08:22
bob2perhaps you could elaborate?08:22
ubuntuwell i can't hear anything08:22
blastradiusit just worked for me08:22
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lastnode_bob2, does ubuntu take long to configure network interfaces08:22
Cryptidblastradius, are u suggesting me to use only w32codecs08:22
lastnode_or is it just me?08:22
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ubuntu?08:22
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soonf00bob2, you done upgrading yet?  seems like you can't right click the desktop in the new gnome 2.12 to get a new terminal08:23
bob2lastnode_: no08:23
ubuntuwell, will someone tell me how to enable sound?08:23
lastnode_bob2, any idea why that is?08:23
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bob2soonf00: yes, but I don't use gnome-terminal, anyway08:23
drummer101|afkwhat does "short read in buffer_copy(backend dpkg-deb ... ) mean?08:23
ubuntuPLEASE?08:23
bob2ubuntu: please stop it08:23
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bob2ubuntu: stop be irritating08:23
lastnode_ubuntu, are your speakers on?08:23
bob2ubuntu: explain exactly what isn't working08:23
ubuntuyes08:23
lastnode_is the volume turned up? system volume?08:23
ubuntuit's on08:23
bob2DaouMei: that your disk is broken08:23
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kaszI get the message "The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available." How can i fix this? Or how can i manually change the refresh rate when i start X?08:23
ubuntuit's on full volume08:23
blastradiuscryptid, i just ran the zip file you'll find if you google mrbass ubuntu. Now i can run anything08:23
soonf00bob2, is there a place to report this -- is it a bug or feature?08:23
bob2drummer101|afk: that your disk is broken08:23
GrannyTuxwhats the latest scoop on 64 bit media plugins for firefox08:23
lastnode_does the sound work in any other os you have installed?08:23
michelQuestion for all, I am trying to find a firewall software from tucows.  is uBuntu a platform, or just a theme thing.  I am very new to linux.08:23
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ubuntuyes in all other os08:24
lastnode_look in the ubuntu device manager, does it see your soundcard?08:24
ubuntuit works just fine08:24
bob2soonf00: apt-cahce search nautilus terminal, you have to install some other thing08:24
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bob2michel: don't use tucows08:24
ubuntuyes it does see my sound card08:24
cevizogluubuntu: all other os meaning what?08:24
bob2michel: and you almost certainly don't need a firewall08:24
nickrudsoonf00, try apt-get'ing nautilus-open-terminal08:24
michelWhat should I use?08:24
ubuntu98, 2000 they work fine08:24
ippiramanhello all!08:24
michelK08:24
ubuntuonly in ubuntu i doesn't work08:24
nybblehey! ijust got a Tucows Cow...08:24
nybblelol08:24
cevizogluubuntu: lol08:24
michelFor other utility apps, what site should I use08:24
henkhi i stalled ati drivers for my card hoping for some better performace with translucensy etc (i have a radeon 9100 which should be capable of the cool stuff) but that did not do much. However the guys at ati were kind enough te replace the control center in the startmenu with an ati conrol option. Where do i get the normal apllication for controlling the system ?08:24
Cryptidblastradius, what all files does it support08:24
Madpilotmichel: Firestarter is in Ubuntu's repos, if you really need a firewall08:24
ippiramanwe have a huge problem08:25
ippiramanthe gov08:25
ippiramanthe gov't has a nationwide crackdown of pirated software08:25
soonf00bob2, nickrud, there is nothign in the breezy repos for this08:25
ubuntui had to uninstall my ubuntu08:25
bob2michel: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto08:25
ubuntusine it refused to play sounds08:25
michelrepos?08:25
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soonf00also is Aptitude now preferred over apt-get?08:25
ubuntui m currently running the live version08:25
ippiramanso i'm migrating all to ubuntu08:25
bob2henk: I'm pretty sure firegl does not do anything on your card08:25
ubuntu:(08:25
bob2ippiraman: that's not really a huge problem08:25
bob2soonf00: yeha08:26
thoreauputicmichel: you don't need to search the web for apps - ubuntu does it for you08:26
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ubuntu:(08:26
michelah08:26
mkyb14ok there are no setup instructions for BUM boot manager...... anyone know how to install the damn thing08:26
ubuntui m currently running the live version08:26
nickrudsoonf00, apt-cache policy tells me it's in universe08:26
ubuntustill can't hear a damn thing08:26
thoreauputicmichel: read the synaptic howto bob2 ponted you to08:26
GrannyTuxeverone seen the new * window authentication * no more updates08:26
ubuntuy is linux still so hard to just freaking install and run?08:26
soonf00nickrud, ok -- havent added that yet -- whoops08:26
bob2I really don't like this whiney attitude08:26
bob2ubuntu: oh, stop it08:26
ippiramanbob2: one problem is obtaining cedega freely and webcam support in gaim08:26
ubuntuy?08:27
bob2ubuntu: it works for the vast majority of people; if it doesn't work on your particular hardware, file a bug so it can be fixed08:27
Madpilotubuntu: that depends on your hardware; my sound worked right out of the install08:27
bob2ippiraman: that's not a problem, you just pay transgaming and they give you cedega08:27
soonf00ubuntu, I think breezy was the simplest of any distro out there08:27
HrdwrBoBippiraman: how on earth is not obtaining cedega freely an ubuntu problem08:27
ubuntuhow can i get breezy?08:27
ippiramandon't have credit card08:27
ippiraman:-(08:27
cevizogluubuntu: download it and burn it to a cd08:27
soonf00ubuntu, ubuntulinux.org -> download -> Breezy08:27
ubuntuok, is that an old version of ubuntu?08:28
bob2ippiraman: then email them and offer to post a cheque or something08:28
tgahuh? breezy shouldn't be out08:28
ubuntuis it better than hoary?08:28
soonf00ubuntu, no it is the newest08:28
bob2ippiraman: this is not an ubuntu problem08:28
ubuntuok, tx08:28
henkbob2 the ati driver manual stated that my card was supported, and it did do "something" .. *slow* translucency is now replaced by *bad* translucency meaning that i get windows that are hardly visible because other windows and artifacts are renderend on top of it etc. So it messes up pretty good. I'm not using translucency now and it works. However there is the issue of ati replacing the control panel08:28
thenukeubuntu: but you might want to consider that if you really should use breezy if you dont know how to get it ;) it's not stable yet08:28
soonf00tga, the preview CD ISO is08:28
bob2pointing whingey windows users at breezy does not seem like a hot idea08:28
tgaah, the preview, nm08:28
ubuntui want to see the live CD08:28
nickrudrofl08:28
ubuntubefore i install anything this time08:28
soonf00tga, actually, it seems surprisingly well groomed for a preview08:28
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cevizogluubuntu: you should wait until it's final then08:29
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ubuntuquestion: does an inbuilt soundcard have problems with most distros?08:29
naliothaftertaf: please do us the favor08:29
GrannyTuxanybody get 3d working on a voodoo 200008:29
bob2ubuntu: if your sound does not work out of the box, you need to file a coherenet and compleyte bug report so it can be fixed08:29
cevizogluubuntu: it sounds like you're very put off by technical problems, you should wait until it's done08:29
soonf00tga, run Debian stable then :-)08:29
blastradiushi people08:29
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ubuntuyes, i'm pissed off by a silly sound problem08:29
soonf00tga, and then cry all day because your software is out of date08:29
ubuntueverything else is just fine...08:29
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mahanguwoo08:29
cevizogluubuntu: did you look to see if your sound card is supported?08:30
mahanguim on from ubuntu08:30
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tgasoonf00, all software was current at some point08:30
soonf00ubuntu, try using the Hardware Device Databade to report your problem08:30
ubuntui've reported, but i'm just impatient08:30
ubuntu:|08:30
soonf00ubuntu, Applications -> System Tools -> Ubuntu Device Database08:30
henkbob2, you don't by any chance know what the normal control panel in kde is called ?08:30
soonf00henk, kcontrol08:30
Burgundaviasoonf00, that data is currently awaiting a use, and does not consistitute a bug report08:31
bob2henk: don't use kde, sorry08:31
blastradiusok, i'm using XChat, is there a better gui client or have i picked the right one?08:31
ubuntuthe reason for my impatience is that i didn't want my local school to install windows08:31
mahanguxchat rocks08:31
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soonf00Burgundavia, im using it08:31
cafuegobob2: Don't be sorry, it's good advice.08:31
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ubuntuinstead i gave them ubuntu... but the sound doesn't work08:31
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soonf00ubuntu, why not install edubuntu instead?08:31
cevizoglublastradius: I like xchat08:31
ubuntuis that another distro?08:31
naliothgt: remember your manners08:31
ubuntusubdistro?08:32
ubuntuperhaps...08:32
henksoonf00, yes thnx!08:32
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Burgundaviasoonf00, I am talking about taking the data out and doing something with it08:32
ubuntuhey burgundavia....08:32
cafuegohenk: The application and package name are 'kcontrol'08:32
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ubuntuhey burgundavia....08:32
blastradiuscevizoglu, good, i tried KVirc but things don't seem to work as i expect. (i am running Kubuntu)08:32
ubuntur u the same guy from wikipedia?08:32
Burgundaviaubuntu, what do you need help with?08:32
Burgundaviaubuntu, yes08:32
mkyb14ok there are no setup instructions for BUM boot manager...... anyone know how to install the damn thing08:32
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ubuntuok cool08:33
bob2mkyb14: it really has no documentation at all?08:33
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mkyb14i'm proly dislexic08:33
ubuntuthe world is a small place after all..08:33
mkyb14but no steps that i can find08:33
aftertafis the imagemagick package broken and unobtainable in breezy for anyone else but me?08:33
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nybbleaftertaf: *checks*08:34
tgamkyb14, just use grub08:34
aftertafk nybble cheers.08:34
pefhello08:34
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cafuegoimagemagick is already the newest version.08:34
cafuegosorry :-)08:34
mkyb14notto edit my boot sequemnce of programs08:34
ubuntuso guys, is edubuntu good enough?08:34
smurfUhm, I hate asking for help, but does anyone know why my firefox would keep locking the ENTIRE X system up?08:34
nybbleaftertaf: imagemagick is already the newest version.08:34
ubuntudoes it have sound problems etc.?08:34
cafuegoubuntu: for what?08:34
nybblesorry08:34
ippiramanis it safe to upgrade to breezy now?08:35
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cevizoglusmurf: are you on PPC by any chance?08:35
ubuntufor educational purposes08:35
ubuntulike schools, colleges etc...08:35
cafuegoaftertaf: I just did 'dpkg -P' and reinstalled it via apt-get, works fine.08:35
aftertaf nybble : imagemagick 6:6.2.3.4-1ubuntu1?08:35
nybbleippiraman: i have no problem with it08:35
ompaulippiraman, if you are willing to have a couple of hundred megs a day upgrades it seems good enough08:35
smurfno, I'm on x86, athlon xp.   I'm thinking it may be a theme I'm using08:35
cafuegoaftertaf: 6.2.3.4-1ubuntu108:35
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aftertafok its my distro/proxy/08:35
nybbleaftertaf: 6:6.2.3.4-1ubuntu108:36
cafuegocould be a broken x86 apckage; mine's x86_6408:36
nybblei'm x8608:36
nybbleno problems here08:36
aftertafno panic then, its local (to me!!)08:36
aftertaf!repos08:36
ubotu[repos]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96908:36
cevizoglusmurf: when my system was relatively new running warty, I got four or five kp's with firefox.  they went away with hoary08:37
leopardcan I remove ~/.gnome and have it reappear fresh on relogin?08:37
ubuntuIs it possible to make my own live CD based on ubuntu distro?08:37
bob2leopard: yeah08:37
bob2ubuntu: yes08:37
nybbleoff to sleep i go08:37
nybblettyl08:38
leopardthanks...problem with the taskbar08:38
ubuntui want to add yahoo and skype along with it, can u tell me how?08:38
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ompaulippiraman, in fact that was unfair - there was 334 packages since colony four ~ 255 megs ... and there are 105 megs since about 12 hours ago -08:38
smurfcevizoglu: well, I'm running hoary too08:38
ubuntuif i'm not being a PITA08:38
nickrudleopard, you may need to remove .gconfd as well08:38
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mkyb14ok there are no setup instructions for BUM boot manager...... anyone know how to install the damn thing08:38
leopardnickrud: thanks08:38
ompaulippiraman,  that 255 was up to 7 hours ago - different box08:38
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[Wiebel] moin08:38
ompaulmkyb14, apt-get install ?08:39
mkyb14doens't owrk08:39
mkyb14work08:39
ubuntuis it possible to add yahoo messenger and skype to my live CD distro?08:39
naliothgrsstig08:39
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[Wiebel] since upgrading to breezy it seems that I don't have sound anymore with flash08:39
mkyb14i'm using hoary not breezy08:39
[Wiebel] starting firefox with esddsp wount work08:39
ompaulmkyb14, have you the package?08:39
[Wiebel] with artsdsp will, but hey, who wants that ;)08:39
danz0rHi im newb08:39
mkyb14i downloaded it manually08:39
mkyb14but i don't see a readme file etc08:40
cafuegoUgh, dtsche08:40
smurfhi newb08:40
ompaulmkyb14,  sudo dpkg -i blah.deb08:40
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danz0rhow do i join different channels08:40
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bob2ubuntu: it's not trivial08:40
bimberidanz0r: /j #channel08:40
bob2ubuntu: and will require you to learn a lot about how ubuntu works08:40
thoreauputicdanz0r: /join #foo08:40
ubuntuok08:40
cafuegomh08:40
GrannyTuxdumb question is it possible to get gaim to do vidoe and audio like msn08:40
ubuntuit's not just drag and drop, eh? :)08:40
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bob2if you're at the stage of complaining that your sound doesn't work, I'd think you'd have to be willing to put in a lot of work08:41
danz0rwhere do i see a list of channels08:41
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mkyb14is it installed now?08:41
cevizogluubuntu: do you want to make the livecd for just one kind of hardware, or several?08:41
ubuntumaybe there should be a modular live Cd08:41
kaszI get the message "The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available." How can i fix this? Or how can i manually change the refresh rate when i start X?08:41
[Wiebel] anyone who has sound with firefox+flash? :)08:41
ompaulmkyb14, sudo bum<< will tell08:41
bob2ubuntu: it is modular08:41
bob2[Wiebel] : pkill esd, try reloading08:41
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ubuntujust one kind of hardware08:42
bob2kasz: someone broke your X config08:42
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[Wiebel] bob2: no go08:42
[Wiebel] tried that allready08:42
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[Wiebel] on hoary i used to do AOSS08:42
bimberidanz0r: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist08:42
kaszbob2, apparently, but how do i fix it?08:42
gergerthank you08:42
nickruddanz0r, I found http://searchirc.com/ useful for finding channels08:42
[Wiebel] that worked fine :)08:42
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ubuntuthe motherboard manufacturers should also give drivers for linux08:42
ubuntuthey only give for windows assuming e1 uses windows...08:43
pclujtyytj08:43
mkyb14awsome08:43
mkyb14thanks08:43
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bob2[Wiebel] : "no go"?  you restarted firewfox and it didn't work?08:43
gergerok os i asked ewarlier and someone, cant recall who, kept telling me to go to a link they gave... but the link for installing nvidia drivers really doesnt make sense to me08:43
ompaulubuntu, write to yours and say I want open source drivers for my mobo08:43
bob2ubuntu: no, manufacturers are not where you should get drivers from08:43
bob2ubuntu: since they will be crap, binary and distro-specific08:43
jollyrogerCan anybody tell me whether or not the breezy preview supports ADM8211 wifi cards out of the box?08:43
cevizogluubuntu: it's much easier to find howto's on making a livecd than it actually is making one.  just my $0.208:43
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[Wiebel] bob2: indeed08:43
bob2ubuntu: ubuntu already supports more types of hardware than windows, out of the box08:43
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[Wiebel] i've tried all sorts of things08:44
bob2jollyroger: does that have a Free driver?08:44
[Wiebel] the only way to get it working is with artsdsp08:44
bob2[Wiebel] : nothing else is using /dev/dsp?08:44
bob2[Wiebel] : then kill arts08:44
smurfbob2: really????08:44
[Wiebel] bob2: nop08:44
lastnodebob2: got it working, thanks08:44
bob2smurf: yes08:44
[Wiebel] bob2: i did08:44
ubuntuok, but isn't all these distros out there actually making it difficult?08:44
bob2ubuntu: no08:44
bob2ubuntu: of course not08:44
cevizoglubob2: given that ubuntu works on my powerbook, I agree  :)08:44
jollyrogerbob2: there is a GPL driver for ADM8211 at aluminum.sourmilk.net08:44
lastnodebob2: now just wondering why it takes so long on configuring network devices?08:44
[Wiebel] bob2: firefox should do esd though and that won't work :)08:44
[Wiebel] or AOSS08:44
bob2jollyroger: then it will probably work08:44
ubuntui mean it's not like windows where i have a simple program and it works08:44
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ubuntuon any windows08:44
bob2ubuntu: sure it is08:44
gergerif anyone would bother ot explain the methods for removing the current drivers, i think i can handle the rest... it doesnt quite seem to excplain removal at the faqs08:45
ubuntubut in linux it's all mixed up08:45
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bob2ubuntu: no, because your distribution will package it for you, and you can install it with one click08:45
bob2ubuntu: only if you make it hard for yourself08:45
jollyrogerbob2: that's not what I'm asking.  I'm asking if it does work...08:45
bob2gerger: "current drivers" of what?08:45
ompaulubuntu, you are thinking like someone in windows world ... have a look at theLinux world because every restriction you know is most likely wrong08:45
bimberilastnode: it can take a while if, for example, you're configured for DHCP and you're not on a DHCP network08:45
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gergeri just need drivers with soem kind of 3d acceleration08:45
ubuntuno what i mean is u go to a shop get a games Cd08:45
lastnodebimberi: oh that must be reason08:45
ubuntuand run it on any dumb windows machine08:45
gergerseems like even the screen savers cant be run at speed on the current ones08:45
ompaulubuntu, complain to the makers08:45
cafuegogerger: What card?08:45
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gergerfx520008:46
bob2ubuntu: and that happens on linux, too08:46
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gergerseems there torouble with this one i guess?08:46
lastnodebimberi: also, are there any wifi tools i can apt-get?08:46
bimberilastnode: in which case you can <CTRL>C it08:46
bob2lastnode: configuring? you mean running dhcp?08:46
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ubuntubut in linux i have to see if they run on my distro etc...08:46
bob2ubuntu: no you don't08:46
cafuegogerger: install the restricted modules and nvidia-glx08:46
lastnodebob2: at bootup mate08:46
ubuntuhow?08:46
gergeri dont know how though08:46
lastnodeit says "configuring network devices" for ages08:46
cafuego!nvidia08:46
ubotunvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia08:46
bob2ubuntu: have you ever bought a proprietary game for linux?08:46
gergermine too08:46
cafuegogerger: there's a HOWTO :-)08:46
gergerabout the network config it says for like a minute08:46
ubuntui tried to, but they don't sell here08:46
bob2lastnode: did you tell it to use dhcp, but when it boots it's not connected to a dhcp server?08:46
bob2ubuntu: there you go08:47
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gerger!nvidia08:47
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bob2ubuntu: if you do buy it, it works just like on windows08:47
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bob2ubuntu: you read the side of the box to see if your OS is vaguely modern enough, then you install it08:47
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bimberilastnode: lots, search in synaptic, and have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto08:47
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enchanterWhat does DSDT mean? " ACPI: Looking for DSDT in initrd... not found!"08:47
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ubuntuno, what i mean is if i create an application in windows, it works on all windows08:48
bob2enchanter: it's some code stored in your bios that's used by the ACPI system in the kernel08:48
gergerbrb08:48
GrannyTuxfte many hows of tweeking i would like to back up my unbuntu install to a bootable dvd can anyone point me to a good faq on this08:48
bob2ubuntu: and it's the same in linux08:48
rawi_I try to activate gui but it says not supported08:48
drunken-wallabyjoin #python-de08:48
ubuntubut in linux i have to create individually for rpm08:48
bob2enchanter: some machine have buggy versions in the bios, so it's possible to replace it at boot time08:48
ubuntuetc.08:48
bob2ubuntu: no, you don't08:48
enchanterbob2, does that mean I do not use ACPI well?08:48
thoreauputicubuntu: not so08:48
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cevizogluubuntu: that's not true.  if you make an application in winxp, there is very little chance it will work right on win9808:48
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bob2ubuntu: you can make shitty generic binaries just like you can on windows08:48
[Wiebel] bob2: nvm08:48
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CryptidWhen is Breezy final version going to be out and can i upgrade my present version of ubuntu to it with out having to format and reinstall my com i mean can i just pop the cd in and just upgrade from the breezy cd08:49
[Wiebel] bob2: after dist-upgrade it works08:49
bob2ubuntu: or you can properly integfrate it into the OS with .debs08:49
ubuntui tried that with my technie friend08:49
enchanterbob2, Would you like to let me know who to do it?08:49
[Wiebel] or at least so it seems08:49
on1009hi all, has anybody had dhcp problems after std ubuntu install or did it work out of the box?08:49
lastnodedid anyone say anything to me? im using irssi and dunno how to scroll up :)08:49
ubuntubut there are lots of compatibility problems when working across varied distros08:49
ubuntuespecially with simple users08:49
[Wiebel] hmm no08:49
bob2enchanter: what? it's fine, it's just saying that you didn't tell it to load a new dsdt08:49
[Wiebel] not via esd08:49
ubuntuwho operate linux found it difficult08:49
thoreauputicubuntu: look, bob2 actually knows - you are just setting up straw man arguments here08:49
cevizogluon1009: it worked right out of the, uh, cd08:49
CryptidWhen is Breezy final version going to be out and can i upgrade my present version of ubuntu to it with out having to format and reinstall my com i mean can i just pop the cd in and just upgrade from the breezy cd08:50
bob2ubuntu: if your friend wanted to make a binary work on lots of different distributions, they could08:50
on1009cevizoglu, no box thats true, lol08:50
bob2Cryptid: no need to repeat08:50
Orunitiaokay...08:50
OrunitiaI'm turning my pc off for a bit08:50
Orunitiamy power just went on and off08:50
ubuntuok, i'll tell him to do like that then bob208:50
bob2Cryptid: and yes, popping in the cd is enough08:50
bob2ubuntu: it's not often very useful, tho08:50
Cryptidbob2, thanx08:50
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bob2windows users have an odd view of software development08:50
ubuntuwhy?08:50
bob2it doesn't matter tha making rpms and debs is more work, since other people do it for you08:50
bob2you release good free software and dozens of people just package it for their distro immediately08:51
bob2it doesn't cost you anything08:51
thoreauputicubuntu: if the source code is available, anyone can make packages08:51
bob2it doesn't cost the world any extra effort08:51
ubuntuit's not free software08:51
bob2then it's your problem08:51
on1009cevizoglu, heard so much about dhcp probs that the rumour went its a broken pkg in ubuntu, but my testinstall worked of the plastic as well08:51
ubuntuits proprietary one, basically with limited budget08:51
ubuntuand my friend doesn't work entirely free08:51
gergeri hope it works thanks guiys08:52
ubuntuwe've made a program for windows08:52
bob2then tell your friend to make annoying static binaries08:52
ompaulbob2, would this be a good time to mention the  cathedral & the bazaar ?08:52
bob2ompaul: hah08:52
ubuntuwhy annoying?08:52
thoreauputicubuntu: then that's not a linux problem, it's a business problem08:52
bob2ubuntu: because it will require peopel to install other things manually08:52
smottwhat's with the little popup informing me that there are updates in 5.10? why does linux look more and more like windows?08:52
bob2ubuntu: and you have to deal with making it remove itself, etc08:52
[Wiebel] ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave08:52
[Wiebel] hmzz08:52
bob2ubuntu: and you have to deal with all bug reports08:52
[Wiebel] there is my issue08:52
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ubunturats08:53
Cryptidis there a Quick Time player for ubuntu08:53
Cryptid?08:53
cevizoglusmott: that feature came originally from Mac, not windows08:53
on1009well then thanks08:53
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lastnodeCryptid: mplayer plays everything08:53
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bob2Cryptid: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:53
MadpilotCryptid: w32codecs + player-of-choice - Totem for me08:53
bob2ubuntu: the same problems you have on windows, in fact08:53
lastnodewhere can i get a list of packages i can apt-get08:53
lastnode?08:53
bob2making something Free saves you yourself effort08:53
CaiN_SAbob2, i wanted to ask how do i get mplayer in ubuntu ?08:53
bob2lastnode: that's not useful, it would be 16 000 lines long08:53
cevizoglulastnode: apt-cache search08:54
ubuntuwindows doesn't have distros08:54
bob2CaiN_SA: it's in multiverse, /msg ubuntu repositories08:54
Madpilotlastnode: use Synaptic's Search button...08:54
bob2ubuntu: what does that have to do with anything at all?08:54
ubuntuso one setup file works from 95 to XP08:54
cevizogluubuntu: and that's a bad thing08:54
bob2ubuntu: and the same on linux, if you want to do it poorly like that that08:54
CryptidMadpilot do u know how many file formats are supported by w32codecs?or is there a site where it is listed08:54
aftertafubuntu:  are you sure on that?08:54
bob2anyway, this is stupid and off-topic08:54
MadpilotCryptid: can I /msg you?08:54
ubuntuwhat i'm saying is it involves a lot of work in linux08:54
bob2#ubuntu-offtopic or not at all08:54
cevizogluubuntu: can you stop talking about windows please?  I'm about to claw my eyeballs out08:54
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bob2ubuntu: #ubuntu-offtopic08:54
Cryptidmadpilot, yes08:54
lastnodeMadpilot: link to that?08:54
CaiN_SAbob2, and what is better xine or mplayer ?08:54
lastnodeim looking for a graphical wifi config util08:55
naliothCryptid: www.mplayerhq.hu08:55
lastnodesomething that'l tell me wavestrength etc08:55
Madpilotlastnode: just a moment...08:55
naliothCryptid: for w32codecs (on the download page)08:55
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hussamanybody knows if nvidia 3d acceleration is working in breezy?08:55
lastnodeb/c im having trouble when i move away from the AP08:55
smurfHey, just curious, how many of you have gotten Guild Wars to run?  My friend did, but it runs badly right now08:55
bob2CaiN_SA: I like mplayer because it's easier to control from the terminal08:55
cevizoglulastnode: you use apt-cache search the same way you would search with google08:55
bignoseI have a notebook computer with external CD-ROM connected via PCMCIA card.08:55
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gtok guys08:55
cevizoglulastnode: plus or minus a few minor differences08:55
ubuntui agree windows is shitty, but there r some business issues with linux08:55
gtnow i dont have any three08:56
gtthree d08:56
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bignosewith Debian (sarge) I can boot from a few floppy diskettes, then install from CD.08:56
Madpilot!tell lastnode about synaptic08:56
cevizogluubuntu: tell that to google08:56
aftertaflastnode: type apt-cache search wifi (as an example)08:56
bob2gt: please use english, on single lines, in coherent sentences08:56
bignoseI can't seem to find such images for Ubuntu.08:56
bob2ubuntu: #ubuntu-offtopic08:56
ubuntuwhat will google do?08:56
bob2bignose: don't believe they exist08:56
thoreauputicubuntu: free software has nothing to do with business models08:56
gt...bob 2 i siad i dont have any 3d08:56
bignose(no, SBM doesn't help; the BIOS can't see the CD-ROM as a boot device)08:56
smurfgoogle uses unix based systems08:56
bob2gt: and that is a useless question08:56
cevizoglugoogle runs their servers with linux08:56
bignosebob2: so what are my options?08:56
ippiramanthe default install of ubuntu has mozilla firefox 1.02, how do I update it to 1.06?08:56
bob2gt: perhaps you mean "I installed the binary nvidia drivers like bob2 suggested, and now I have problem blah"08:57
ubuntulol, google has lots of unix guys08:57
bob2ippiraman: it's in the security repository08:57
gtyes thats what i ment08:57
CaiN_SAbob2, i got universe repos but it has no mplayer08:57
ubuntuin india linux programmers r far lower08:57
bob2gt: then go back and follow the instructions again08:57
bob2CaiN_SA: multiverse, not universe08:57
lastnodeis libiw27 a gui tool?08:57
lastnodeit doesnt say08:57
CaiN_SAhmmmk08:57
lastnodei did apt-cache search wireless08:57
bob2lastnode: it's a library08:57
CaiN_SA!repos08:57
ubotumethinks repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96908:57
bob2lastnode: that's not useful08:57
lastnodemmm08:57
lastnodeyeah i figured08:57
dell500is it possible to have Evolution seperate your mail from mailbox to mailbox?  like assign different folders for different addresses to keep it sorted08:57
lastnodeanybody reccommend a wireless gui tool?08:57
gtyou know bob2, you know alot about this stuff, but your a consistant jerk, and im not getting banned again, so thank you but please dot respond to me anymore08:58
smurfA LOT of companies use linux, actually08:58
gtall the non student pcs at my school back in the day were linux08:58
bob2gt: follow the instructions again08:58
bob2gt: if it continues to not work, come back08:58
ubuntuwell some companies use linux, not a lot...08:58
gti had to log out so i dont have them perhaps this time i will book mark them08:58
CaiN_SAbob2, i know xine doesnt play all broken vids, but mplayer does08:58
bob2and stop being obnoxious08:58
cevizoglulastnode: does wireless work for you?08:58
smurfI work on laser printers, and my company uses sparc (sun) systems to program the laser printers08:58
bob2gt: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:59
bob2gt: it is linekd from the FAQ08:59
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lastnodecevizoglu: yeah im on wifi right now08:59
lastnodei just want a tool that'l give me info08:59
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lastnodelike signal range etc08:59
lastnodesorta like netstumbler for windows?08:59
bob2and I'm not being a jerk, I'm annoyed at stupid questions and people who are too lazy to even ask for help using complete words08:59
CryptidDoes ne body know what codecs i need to play .m4a files08:59
CaiN_SAwtf is mutliverse ? like super unsupported software ?08:59
smurfbob2: yes08:59
bob2CaiN_SA: non-free unsupported software09:00
CaiN_SAah09:00
cevizoglulastnode: did you try kwavecontrol?09:00
bob2Cryptid: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:00
CaiN_SAok so i cant put it in my live cd09:00
CaiN_SA:P09:00
lastnodecevizoglu: nope09:00
lastnodecan i apt-get that?09:00
lastnodealso im running gnome, not kde09:00
lastnode:S09:00
cevizoglulastnode: wavemon?  yes, you can apt-get both of them09:00
cevizoglulastnode: gnome runs kde apps ok09:00
ubuntuok tx 4 the info guys09:00
lastnodeapt-get wavemon09:00
cevizoglulastnode: and vice-versa09:00
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lastnodeoh hehe09:01
lastnode:S09:01
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ubuntugot 2 go, bye09:01
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lastnodeis that correct syntax?09:01
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cevizoglulastnode: sudo apt-get install wavemon09:02
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lastnodecouldnt find package09:03
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cevizoglulastnode: do you have universe and multiverse in your package list?09:03
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lastnodemm09:03
Log-OShi all! i can't back to X after ctr-alt-F209:03
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lastnodethats greek to me man :(09:03
gtwas i suposed to uninstal something before i installed the enw drivers? anyone?09:04
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thoreauputicLog-OS: alt-F7 ?09:04
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bob2gt: define "new"?  did you install drivers from nvidia.com?09:04
cevizoglulastnode: your package list is at /etc/apt/sources.list, take a look at it and see if it includes universe and multiverse09:04
hussamIs nvidia 3d acceleration working in breezy?09:04
gtno from the synaptic thing09:04
Cryptidwhich is better Beep-Media-player or XMMS?09:04
dduckoIm looking for an FTP server, preferably with a gui... any suggestions?09:04
cevizoglulastnode: wavemon is in universe09:04
SeveasCryptid, beep :)09:05
gtalso, i would like to know....what are the shortcut commanss for leaving x, and then for returning? anyone?09:05
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thoreauputicCryptid: beep is prettier, xmms has more plugins09:05
Seveasdducko, there's a gui available for proftpd and webmin modules for others...09:05
thoreauputicCryptid: they sound the same ;)09:05
Log-OSthoreauputic: thanks, i try that09:05
dduckothank you Seveas09:05
lastnode# deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe09:06
chavohussam, works for me, but I haven't updated since the preview09:06
lastnode# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe09:06
bob2gt: you don't need to leave X to install nvidia drivers09:06
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henkcan ubuntu play realmedia files ?09:06
bob2gt: you do not need to remove them to upgarde to a new version09:06
cevizoglulastnode: remove the #09:06
gtthe official ones told me i did09:06
bob2henk: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:06
cevizoglulastnode: and then you need to sudo apt-get update09:06
cevizoglulastnode:  then try the install command again09:06
bob2gt: they are wrong, you do not need to leave X to install the ubuntu nvidia drivers09:06
gtfirst i couldnt use them ebcause it siad i didnt have root.. then i learned about sudo... then it said i couldnt run the installer inside x  windows09:06
hussamchavo: so you have no idea if they are still working?09:06
gtok im just saying the ones from nvidia .com did09:07
deFryskDapper Drake wtf ?09:07
bob2gt: yes, don't use them09:07
gtim not now that you told em another way09:07
bob2deFrysk: ask mark09:07
chavohussam, well from what I've heard breezy is broken lately, so I haven't upgraded09:07
gti also heard they break things09:07
lastnodeit asked me to to do apt get update09:08
lastnodeoh sorry, didnt see that09:08
naliothgt: the best way is the ubuntu way. other methods can break your ubuntu box09:08
ompauldeFrysk, better that than some others09:08
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deFryskompaul, for me +1 wil be 06.04 , no name09:09
lastnodecevizoglu: same problem09:09
lastnodecouldnt find package09:09
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cevizoglulastnode: comment out the lines which contain "cdrom".  you do that by placing # at the start of the line09:09
deFryskmark has been in space too long.. :D09:09
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lastnodecevizoglu: there is no cd rom line09:10
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cevizogluso, apt-get update didn't report any errors?09:11
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thoreauputickeikoz: /join #ubuntu-fr  :)09:11
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keikozgrrrrrrrrrr09:11
lastnodecevizoglu: doing it again09:12
keikozi'm just telling hi ...09:12
lastnodereading package lists.. done09:12
thoreauputickeikoz: I was kidding :)09:12
[Wiebel] hmmz09:12
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[Wiebel] firefox seems to ignore .asoundrc09:12
lastnoderestricted is commented though09:12
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cevizoglulastnode: you need to add another line like this:  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe multiverse09:13
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DanielHolthhello09:14
cevizoglulastnode: whether you use multiverse is up to you, though09:14
No1Viking!tell lastnode about repos09:14
DanielHolthanyone know anything about limiting bandwidth to certain users on a network?09:14
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DanielHolthas in I want my desktop to get higer priority than wireless09:14
lastnodeok i messed around09:15
lastnodeuncommented a few more lines09:15
lastnodelets hope this works09:15
lastnodeits 14%, and download a lotta packages :S09:15
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Ashenyo... anyone know what repos have eclipse on them?09:17
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smottwhat's the "This version is for your own machine :-)" at the end of the mplayer-custom description supposed to mean?09:17
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bimberi!eclipse09:17
ubotuto install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE09:17
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_iancan anyone tell me how to get the temperature readings from my ibook g4?09:17
cafuego_ian: Anything in /proc/cpuinfo ?09:18
Ashencheers ubotu09:18
_ianyeah09:18
bimberiAshen: ubotu would say "you're welcome" but it's a bot :)09:18
_iancafuego: lots of good stuff, but no temp stuff09:18
Ashenor bimberi if you activated the bot09:19
Ashen:p09:19
Ashenhaha09:19
Ashenyeh09:19
AshenI didn't see you activate it :p09:19
_ianthe fan is running like crazy, but I'm not doing much09:19
lastnodebimberi: someone should write that in ;-)09:19
bimberi!thanks09:19
ubotubimberi: graag gedaan09:19
cafuego_ian: You can _try_ the sensors modules, but I expect they won't support the chip in the iBook.09:19
lastnode_ian: check for system procesess09:19
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lastnode_ian: probably running something in the bg09:19
Ashenis breezy stable enough to run?09:19
_iannope, top is using 75% when I run it09:20
cafuegoAshen: Seems to be at the moment, but may change in between now and next month.09:20
_ianis it scaling the cpu or something that makes it look like its using all the power?09:20
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Ashenhrmmm... thinking of trying it out...09:20
_iandoes the ibook even support cpu scaling?09:20
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thoreauputic_ian: yes it does09:20
cafuegothoreauputic: via powernowd?09:20
tombalablombaGood morning all09:20
thoreauputic_ian: mine seems to use 2 levels afaics09:21
thoreauputiccafuego: dunno :)09:21
cafuego_ian: Install 'sensord' and run 'sudo sensors-detect' (provided you're running an Ubuntu kernel)09:21
_ianthoreauputic: so, if its scaled down, could that make top look like its using 75% or the cpu, and because it thinks cpu is at 82% its running the fan like crazy?09:21
thoreauputic_ian: interesting question - I don't know09:21
cafuego_ian: The fan shouldn't run like crazy... unless something else is maybe generating heat.09:21
Ashenis the new/latest gnome in breezy? and if so, are the new features and things noticable??/09:21
cafuegoAshen: yes09:22
Ashenkewls :)09:22
cafuegoAshen: I particularly like 'beagle'.09:22
tombalablombasmall question, does anybody have running openldap?09:22
_ianthe fan is running like mad, feels hot, but I'm just running amarok and irc09:22
Ashenguess its upgrade time then :p09:22
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_ianI installed sensord09:23
_ianbut sensor-detect : command not found09:23
ippiramanany success on running a webcam on gaim or other im clients?09:23
thoreauputic_ian: what does "top" say is using your cpu up?09:23
cafuego_ian: Note I had an extra 's' in my command.09:23
_iantop: 67%09:23
_ianxorg:8%09:24
_ianand then smaller stuff09:24
_ianwhy is top using 67% of my cpu?????!?09:24
tombalablombacan u use a webcam with gaim?09:24
thoreauputic_ian: weird for top to use 67% :/09:24
_iango it09:24
cevizoglu_ian: try without amarok for a while  :)09:24
fredforfaenamarok can use a lot of cpu sometimes09:25
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pvt19hi\09:25
_ianw/o amarok, same thing09:25
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thoreauputic_ian: sounds like top is on crack for some reason09:25
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_ianyeah, but how?09:25
_ianthe fan runs like crazy when top isn't running too09:26
_ianand kde task manager shows top using 35% right now09:26
nalioth_ian: does it do so with OSX?09:26
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nalioth_ian: what generation ibook is it?09:26
cevizoglu_ian: what speed is your ibook?09:26
_ianibook g409:26
_ianbought it new in june09:27
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cevizogluian: what is your ibook sitting on?09:27
nalioth_ian: you have a relatively new hardware type for a mac09:27
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kaszHi guys, i just installed a IDE extension PCI card, and lspci detects it as: 0000:00:09.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Integrated Technology Express, Inc. IT/ITE8212 Dual channel ATA RAID controller (PCI version seems to be IT8212, embedded seems (rev 13)09:27
resty55509:27
kaszwhere do i need to install the drivers to for it?09:27
cevizogluian: what's the temp of the room you're in?  is the laptop charging?09:27
_ianmy lap, nothing really blocking vents09:27
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restyyup09:27
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lastnodecevizoglu: got it09:27
cevizogluian: try sitting it on a wood board09:27
lastnodehow do i use it?09:27
Ashenooh... are the nvidia drivers working well in breezy?09:28
_ianits pluged in, not chargin, the room is prolly about 60 F09:28
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resty======09:28
tombalablombaanybody got openldap working on ubuntu?09:28
seliniumhi all, i am just installing wine to run IE for testing Websites. Am I setting myself up for viruses? Should I install it as a user not root?09:28
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cevizoglulastnode: I've never used it, I only saw 3-4 possible tools which would do what you were asking for09:28
naliothcevizoglu: the ibook has no bottom vents09:28
keikozyou should use it as not root09:28
bob2selinium: you should certainly not be running wine as root09:28
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lastnodecevizoglu: great, thanks09:29
lastnodewhat are the other two?09:29
keikozbut install it as root09:29
_ianok, sensors_probe ran09:29
Ashenwine isn't always running, if you're just installing it for ie, then you can prevent anything from accessing any system files by removing wines emulation of your root... methinks09:29
cevizoglunalioth: if the ibook is sitting on something with on air inbetween, it gets much hotter09:29
_ianthe only thing it wants to add to /etc/modules is eeprom09:29
bob2kasz: lspci has nothing to do with whether the kernel supports it or not09:29
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cevizoglunalioth: er, with no air inbetween09:29
_iandoes it do anything besides prob and output to /etc/modules?09:29
cevizoglunalioth, especially when it sits on people  :)09:29
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seliniumkeikoz bob2: So install as root, but never run it from inside root, yes?09:30
keikozyes09:30
bob2selinium: you install IE as a normal user, too09:30
seliniumkeikoz bob2: Cheers guys09:30
_ianso, I ran the sensors_probe thing, where would I read the values if it worked?09:31
seliniumbob2: Is it possible/worth creating a new group wine, and run things through that?09:33
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seliniumbob2: not that i'm paranoid or anything!09:33
bob2selinium: sure, you could create a whole new user if you like09:33
AshenUbuntu got support in the installer for reiser4 yet?09:33
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_ianok, wtf??09:34
bob2Ashen: reiser4 is not even in the upstream kernel yet09:34
[Wiebel] hmmz ok09:34
Ashenbob2: oh... *Cries* I wanna play with it ^_^09:34
_ianI've been holding the ibook up at an angle so its totaly off my lap for several mins, and the fan is still blasting09:34
[Wiebel] firefox + esddsp won't work, firefox + alsa ignores .asoundrc09:35
restysfd09:35
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[Wiebel] anoying ;)09:35
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bob2Ashen: then build a new kernel, patch it, and use the reiser4 tools which are in ubuntu to make a scratch partition09:35
cevizogluian: are you still running amarok?09:35
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_iannope, amarock is closed09:36
seliniumbob2: You make it sound soooo easy :009:36
_iantop still uses 8009:36
_ianactually, I'm gonna reboot09:36
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_ianI did a dist-upgrade09:36
_iancould that mess stuff up?09:37
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cevizogluian: yes, it will make your laptop hot09:37
_ianno, the dist-upgrade is over, like 30 mins ago09:37
cevizogluian: I've seen it take a good 20 mins for a laptop to cool down09:37
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_ianbut having packages changed while they're running, could that mess something up?09:37
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_ianwell, thanks guys, I'll see what happens09:37
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cevizogluian: how much memory / swap space?09:37
Ashenbob2: Maybe one day ^_^, despite it being tempting I really dont have the time *shrug*09:38
_ian700 something ram, whatever ubuntu does default for swap09:38
_ian733 mb used ram, 0 used swap09:38
_iannot sure about totals09:38
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cevizogluian: seems ok for ram, not sure what you mean about swap09:38
_ianit says 0mb swap used, I'm not sure how big the partition is, ubuntu auto partitioned it09:39
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ippiramanwhen i install new programs, will it be automatically included on the applications menu09:39
aftertaffor info, seems to be the fr. breezy repos that is suffering09:39
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bob2ippiraman: depends on what it is09:39
cevizogluian: I'm running 10 different apps right now, including bittorrent which usually makes my laptop overheat, and I can barely hear the fan09:39
_ianmine isn't super loud, but running constantly and full blast09:40
cevizogluian: but then again, with the laptop sitting on my lap it overheats in a second.  right now it's on a thick board09:40
cevizogluian: sitting on my lap09:40
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cevizogluian s/second/five minutes  :P09:40
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cevizogluian: top should use less than 1% of your cpu, unless you've upscaled it09:42
_ianupscaled it?09:42
seliniumany ideas why soundjuicer is ripping at 1.8x when my drive is 8x4x32? Can i speed it up?09:42
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cevizogluian: not sure how to do it on linux.  on mac you would hit the up arrow key09:43
_ianwhat does it do?09:43
cevizogluian: it polls the cpu usage much more frequently09:43
_ianah, its going about ever second09:44
cevizogluian: top could use 99% cpu that way09:44
ColonelKernelselinium, what kind of CPU?09:44
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_ianthanks for the help, I'm going to sleep09:44
cevizogluian: ah, top -d 0.01 will make top use 99% of the cpu on linux09:45
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_ianI'll keep that in mind next time I have too much cpu time09:45
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jblackDoes anybody know of a magic trick to get suspend to memory to work well?09:46
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FruityLoophelp09:48
FruityLoopupsi09:48
FruityLoophallo da bin ich wieder09:49
nalioth!de09:49
ubotuI guess de is #ubuntu-de bitte.09:49
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tombalablombasmall question, anybody running openldap on ubuntu?09:50
FruityLoop<--- not me09:51
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FruityLoopi like windows =D09:51
tombalablombaI also like windows, because else it gets to cold in my home09:51
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punkrockmcduckgood morning09:51
toonXcan i use a command like , ls -R than pipe the output to something like cat (to search the content's of all the files ls -R finds , than pipe the output some a command like grep "word" to list on the standart output just my query ?09:51
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toonXmy problem is that i don't know how to make cat work just for files, because it tries to work on dirs too for wich i get an error09:53
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punkrockmcduckjust wanted to put in my two cents. Breezy kicks ass.09:53
cevizoglutoonX: are you using bash, zsh, ?09:53
toonXcevizoglu, bash09:53
cevizoglutoonX: you could get a faster, on-topic response at #bash (hint hint)09:53
toonXcevizoglu, yes thanks09:53
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gtbob2 you there?09:54
bob2?09:54
gtanyone?09:54
gtok heres the thing09:54
gtcan you link em to the site you gave earlier?09:55
gti must be doing soemthing wtrong09:55
gti installed them again....09:55
bob2it's linked from the FAQ09:55
gtand got it working i think09:55
bob2wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:55
gtwell i dont know where thats at09:55
gtthanks09:55
gtexcept that isnt a link09:55
gtlook im pathtic09:55
gti know it09:55
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gtyou know it09:55
gti suck09:55
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cevizoglugt: add http:// to it09:55
cevizoglugt: and stop flooding09:56
pipounlol09:56
toonXcevizoglu, did get an answer or two on bash , thanks09:56
gt....09:56
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pipounwhere can I find help on xorg?09:56
bob2that is the link09:56
bob2pipoun: here09:56
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pipounTu modify the xorg.conf file09:56
pipounTo*09:56
bob2why would you modify it?09:56
Kezzai am running an NFS share between two ubuntu machines and it seems to take aaaages (like 2-3 minutes) for the NFS share to be mounted, any suggestions?09:57
pipounbecause when I use the fglrxconfig scrit, it doesn't modify xorg.conf09:57
bob2so09:57
bob2don't use that script09:57
gti did everythign it said to09:57
bob2instead, read wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:57
pipounbut it creates X86smthing-4 instead09:57
gtbut i see no nvidia splash screen09:57
bob2pipoun: ignore that, undo whatever yo udid, then read the above link09:58
bob2gt: rerun the nvidia-glx-enable ocmmand09:58
kaszI have a binary driver as a .o file, where do i need to copy it to?09:58
gtand i get like 6 frames per second with the stupid ant screen saver09:58
gtok09:58
bob2kasz: what is it?09:58
gtjust from the terminal?09:58
Kezzaanyone?09:58
gtor what09:58
bob2gt: read the page again09:59
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kaszbob2, a driver for a IDE extension pci card09:59
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bob2kasz: and the card is?09:59
pipounbob2, it's what I did10:00
kaszlspci says: 0000:00:09.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Integrated Technology Express, Inc. IT/ITE8212 Dual channel ATA RAID controller (PCI version seems to be IT8212, embedded seems (rev 13)10:00
bob2pipoun: no, it's not10:00
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pipounbut when U use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I don't have all the options that I want10:01
bob2indeed10:01
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bob2so10:01
bob2undo whatever yo udid10:01
bob2then follow the page I poitned you at10:01
pipounbecause I also installed fglrx-control10:01
bob2yes10:01
pipounafter that10:01
bob2ignore that10:01
bob2if it odified your X config, undo whatever it did10:01
pipounwhy I would undo something which is working, I jt want to add some more options10:02
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brownie17can somebody please explain the linux sound sitiatuoin to me?10:03
kaszbob2, so what do i need to do?10:03
bob2it works fine if your apps are Free and modern10:03
bob2kasz: find out what driver it needs10:03
pipounI want a dual head, so I installed fglrx-control which doesn't work, so I've decided to modify handly the file10:03
bob2kasz: if it needs a binary-only driver, you're probably boned10:03
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kaszbob2, i have the driver on the cd10:03
bob2kasz: and the name of the driver is?10:04
bob2kasz: randdom binary only drivers are unlikely to work10:04
aftertafis there a better way of upping to breezy than apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?10:04
aftertafit doent seem to install all needed packages in one go that way.10:04
bob2aftertaf: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes10:04
cyphaseis there an open source package that offers you a customizable home page, kind of like www.google.com/ig ?10:04
bob2aftertaf: if things don't upgrade cleanly, first time, pleae file bugs10:04
cyphasehmm, that wasn't worded right10:05
aftertafok bob2 :)10:05
kaszbob2, its not exactly random, its the debian3 driver from the cd that came with the card10:05
bob2kasz: 3.0?10:05
kaszbob2, presumably10:06
bob2then it's unlikely to work10:06
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bob23.0's default kernel was 2.010:06
bob2er, 2.210:06
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kaszbob2, there are mandrake 9.2 and redhat 9.0 drivers here as well, but i thought it would be better to use the debian one?10:07
bob2those are both old, too10:07
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bob2and predate 2.6, iirc10:07
kaszim going to check their website, see if they have updated drivers available10:08
bob2what is the name of the driver?10:08
Toolahhow do I load a dpt_i2o mod with a livecd so that I can access my hard drives please?10:08
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clem_yeatsThe Drapper Drake ?10:09
bob2your harddrive needs an i2o module?10:09
bob2are you sure?10:09
clem_yeatslol10:09
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kaszbob2, the filename is iteraid.o10:09
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Toolahno ideas?10:11
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Toolahapt-get update returns Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com warty/main Packages [483kB] 10:11
ToolahE: Method http has died unexpectedly!10:12
bob2sounds like bad ram or something10:12
Toolahapt-get update apt10:12
bob2that's not how the update command works10:12
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bob2kasz: is it too late to return it?10:12
gtok10:12
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gtstill arent working10:13
gtbut ive got bigger fish to fry... if youll help that is10:13
gtthe biggest issue now is... grubb10:13
Toolahgoogled error msg and a page said it was a bug in apt10:13
kaszbob2, probably not, but iv found the source code for the driver on their website10:13
gtwhen i updated ubuntu... again i know nothing, it now has a list of ubuntus, and my windows xp is not there any more10:13
gtany way of getting it back there?10:14
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gtany ideas bob?10:14
bob2kasz: that's still going to be a pain in the arse10:15
bob2gt: add it in /boot/grub/menu.lst10:15
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naliothgt: open a terminal and type "man grub"10:15
poyieei10:15
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gtthanks man you really area  ilife saver, though sometimes not the nicest, but definetly know your stuff10:15
cevizoglugt: make a backup of menu.lst too10:15
aftertaflol gt :D10:15
poyiehow to see ubunto in winxp?10:15
bob2you can pay me to be nice10:15
gtwait sorry10:16
bob2for free, all you get is "right"10:16
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bob2;p10:16
gtnaolith... that wasnt to you lol10:16
aftertafpoyie:  access the partitions?10:16
poyieok10:16
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cevizoglupoyie: yeah, from winxp, vnc to an ubuntu box10:16
cevizoglupoyie: oh, is that not what you meant by "seeing"?  :P10:16
poyiei allready shared my ubunto but  my windows is always asking for user and psswd10:16
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aftertafpoyie:  you can get an ext2fs file viewer... but can't (iirc) write to it10:17
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aftertafpoyie:  ok. i'm off track...10:17
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kaszbob2, what directory is the kernel source in?10:18
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tgakasz, /usr/src/10:18
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bob2kasz: nowhere10:18
bob2kasz: please tell me it does't actually require the source to build10:19
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gthow do i find out what to place in the list? the windows part is gone10:19
gtso i dont have anything to look at /cut and paste10:20
Toolahif I wanted to search my HD for a dpt_i2o module, what would the syntax be?10:20
bob2Toolah: sudo modprobe dpt_i2010:20
bob2or whatever10:20
ToolahFATAL: Module dpt_i2o not found.10:20
Kyttenhey bob210:20
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cevizoglugt: fdisk will show you the layout, but don't modify anything10:20
tgagt, http://www.google.ca/search?q=menu.lst10:21
Kyttenstill not working like u told me earlier10:21
naliothgt: google for "menu.lst  windows  linux"  perhaps ubuntu10:21
bob2it's there in the install cd10:21
bob2perhaps the live cd doesn't include it10:21
Toolahbob2 how would I be able to get the module for the livecd?10:21
bob2Toolah: file a bug10:21
kaszbob2, it would atleast need the headers wouldnt it?10:21
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Kyttenwhen i do query modem it can't detect my modem10:21
mdkehi all, how does fglrx work in Breezy? indypende has upgraded and his 3d 9600 radeon doesn't work any more10:22
mdkeany ideas?10:22
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bob2kasz: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r), yeah10:22
bob2Kytten: so just tell it where it is10:22
DaOneis there someone here who can help me?  im trying to install ubuntu on another computer & everything went fine until i restarted & got an error saying that the CD i put in isnt a ubuntu CD.10:22
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bob2mdke: if it doesn't work, file a bug if no one else has10:22
mdkebob2, i was wondering if the drivers were maybe included in x.org already, and fglrx was blocking em?10:22
jo_eI just got a geforce 4 mx.  After putting it in, my X didn't work, so I ran xorgconfig, and chose "NVIDIA Geforce" as my graphics card.  X starts with good resolution, but anything involving glx crashes.  after downloading nvidia drivers and tools, I ran "nvidia-glx-config enable" which told me "Error: your X configuration has been altered." I ran the command it recommended to update an md5 sum, which I did.  it seemed to complete success10:23
jo_efully, but when I restarted X, it threw out error messages about not being able to open the display.10:23
bob2there's no package called "fglrx" in ubuntu10:23
bob2and never has been10:23
bob2only people who used alien without thinking have it10:23
Kyttenbob2 if u please i need to talk to for 2 mins10:23
bob2Kytten: ...10:23
Kyttenstill not working and i did like u told me earlier10:23
mdkebob2, you know the one I mean though10:23
bob2Kytten: I told you what to do10:23
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Kyttenwhen i do query modem it can't detect my modem10:23
mdkebob2, xorg-driver-fglrx10:23
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Kyttenyup it can't detect it , it's installed and everything that chipset10:24
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lastnodecant i get ubuntu to mount my hdds on bootup?10:24
Deterministmy X seems to not work anymore :/10:24
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tgalastnode, yes, you have to edit /etc/fstab10:24
Kyttenbut i can't detect it , i tried all those modems non of those works10:24
bob2Kytten: so, stop doing that10:24
indypendemdke, xorg...fglrx...quello li!10:24
bob2Kytten: I told you to just tell it to use the device directly10:24
benplautwhat's the fastest mirror for breezy preview install & live? need the ISO to spread ubuntu goodness around my LUG :P10:25
lastnodetga, add sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda110:25
lastnode?10:25
bob2lastnode: of course you can, edit /etc/fstab10:25
Deterministloads up till it displays the nvidia logo, then goes back to text mode, then back to the nvidia logo about 3 times till it announces it cant load X and freezes the system :/10:25
Deterministanything i could do to fix this problem?10:25
bob2lastnode: no, actually look at the file and see what the format is10:25
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Kyttenyes i did10:25
Kytteni didn't fix it my self10:25
DaOnecan someone help me with installing ubuntu?10:25
tgalastnode, man fstab for information on the fields10:25
aftertafDeterminist:  try using the nv driver, or vesa driver10:25
Kyttenbut i think that detecting thing didn't find it10:25
Gavrilahi people, is it normal by now that I can't shutdown X from gnome?10:25
Gavrilain breezy I mean10:25
Deterministaftertaf, how, pray tell?10:25
mdkeGavrila, explain further10:26
bob2Kytten: stop it10:26
bob2Kytten: and read what I'm saying10:26
Kyttendo i need to buy new modem and what u suggest10:26
bob2Kytten: just tell pppconfig where the modem is, don't let it guess at all10:26
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Kyttencom310:26
bob2DaOne: get cd. burn cd. boot cd. if you have specific issues, ask.10:26
bob2Kytten: no, not com310:26
Kyttenid id10:26
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Kyttenwhat do u think10:27
Gavrilamdke, I'm with current breezy upgraded form hoary and I deleteled all my .gnome files... when I click oon log out or shut down it seems like the gnome-panel get stuck and I can't select anything on it... while I can still click on the desktop...10:27
tgamethinks there should be two support channels for ubuntu stable and unstable.. there seems to be a world of problems with breezy10:27
Kyttenit's works for my xp on com 310:27
Gavrilathen I have to kill mnanually X to let the shutdown (or the log out9 complete10:27
mdkeGavrila, no that is not normal10:27
Kezzait is unstable, it isn't supposed to work perfectly.10:27
bob2Kytten: stop it10:27
bob2Kytten: be quiet and read again what I said10:27
KezzaKytten, , you need to start paying attention10:27
GavrilaKezza, there are bugs which are "normal" in unstable things and other which are not10:28
[Wiebel] hmm10:28
[Wiebel] what happend to xorgcfg in breezy? :)10:28
DaOnebob2: iv got a specific issue.  iv managed 2 install it everything fine until i have 2 restart.  then when i do it askes for the ubuntu CD.  then when i put it in it says its not a ubuntu CD.10:28
bob2DaOne: perhaps the cd is damaged or it can't read it10:28
bob2DaOne: did you validate the CD?10:28
GavrilaBTW upgrading to breezy broke my snaptics touchpad... I can't drag icons anymore.. :(10:28
mdkeGavrila, check bugzilla and file a bug if there isn't one already10:29
mdkebut it is likely to be there10:29
Gavrilaok10:29
tgathat's what you get for using the unstable version.. file a bug or something10:29
mdkeand fixed too iirc10:29
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Gavrilamdke, thenit's "normal" :D10:29
Deterministbob2, any idea how to solve my problem mate?10:29
mdkeGavrila, there have been lots of problems with touchpads, if you upgrade I think they have been fixed by now10:29
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DaOnebob2: no i didnt validate the CD...  but its the 1 i ordered of shipit.  what could be wrong?10:30
aftertafDeterminist:  what nvidia driver are you using?10:30
bob2DaOne: the cd could be broken; try validating it (boot into expert mode and select "validate cd" or whatever from the menu)10:30
bob2Determinist: sounds like X is misconfigured10:31
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tgaDeterminist, take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and check for errors10:31
Deterministaftertaf, erm, 7676 if i'm not mistaken10:31
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awormushow is ubuntu with dual booting?10:31
bob2awormus: fine10:31
awormusI want to test it on my laptop10:31
naliothawormus: just fine10:31
mdkeawormus, it is not bad10:31
awormusis it pretty easy to install?10:31
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Deterministtga, will do, thanks10:31
naliothawormus: have at it10:31
aftertafok. NVidia binary...   have you removed the nvidia ubuntu packages?10:31
mdkeawormus, choose the stable version10:31
naliothawormus: like fallin off a log10:31
aftertafDeterminist:  both together causes a mess on my system10:31
mdkei lost my windows partition with the unstable version recently10:31
awormusnalioth: lol :)10:31
naliothawormus: if you wait til oct 13, you can have the freshest ubuntu around10:32
awormusso it will resize my NTFS partition10:32
mdkeawormus, yes it should10:32
mdke8 times out of 1010:32
naliothmdke: so ubuntu did you a favor?10:32
mdkenalioth, nope10:32
aftertaflol nalioth10:32
tgaawormus, be warned though that resizing partitions might break everything and eat your data10:32
Deterministaftertaf, by no means no. nothing has changed, just came back home at night from work after i left the machine on and unlogged as any user, it was frozen, after a reboot this problem appeared10:32
awormusnalioth: I'll wait, been playing with Linux for the last 5 years, can wait another mnoth10:32
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mdkeawormus, backup everything before you install10:32
awormustga: new laptop, will backup everything10:32
awormusthanks10:32
gthow do i open menu.lst in readable writable? it says read only10:32
tgagt, use sudo10:33
gtok10:33
mdkegt, with sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst10:33
awormusdoes the new one have gnome 2.12?10:33
DaOnebob2:  i had another small problem which i got around by running in expert mode: when it went to configure adp (or something like that) it came to a network test & wouldnt go any further.  any ideas?10:33
naliothawormus: if you've 5 years exp, you shouldn't have any problems whenever you decide to install10:33
mdkeawormus, yes10:33
aftertafDeterminist:  hmm...  change your driver in xorg.conf to "nv" and try again, if no joy change to 'vesa'10:33
naliothawormus: yes it will10:33
awormusnalioth: never committed to anything though... still perfer windows on my workstation10:33
Deterministaftertaf, k, gotta reboot, bbiab10:33
aftertafok.10:33
bob2DaOne: I don't know adp is10:33
mdkeawormus, Ubuntu will convince you to move10:33
Kezzawhat is the best way to troubleshoot NFS mounting?10:34
naliothawormus: you'll have extra time with linux (wont be chasing viruses, or waiting for "terrible tuesday")10:34
awormusmdke: well, I fired up the liveCD on my laptop and was very impressed10:34
mdkecool10:34
tgathere's nothing on the livecd that you don't get with other distro livecds10:34
Kezzaawormus, just use hoary and upgrade to breezy later10:34
tgathe fun is in the packages and community10:34
Somada141i've been battling to play divx/xvid in ubuntu for really long. is there a codec for all formats similar to ffdshow or not?10:34
awormusKezza: so I guess upgrading is easy as well..10:35
naliothSomada141: there are xvid/divx libraries available10:35
awormusthat was the bane of all other Linux versions I've used10:35
Somada141i got some but the perfomance was terrible10:35
cevizoglutga: the fun is in using an obscure cryptic system that no one else can figure out how to use..10:35
Kezzaawormus,  Yeah.  as easy as running a command.10:35
DaOnebob2: i probably havent got it right.  :S10:35
naliothawormus: yes, ubuntu is based on debian which begat "apt-get"10:35
cevizoglutga: oh wait, that was linux 199710:35
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tgacevizoglu, there are better choices than linux for that10:35
seliniumbob2: I have just built wine from cvs, what would you do about installing ie?10:35
Somada141then i got totem-xine but the quality went bad10:35
tgaqnx comes to mind from my recent experiences10:36
seliniumbob2: Security wise?10:36
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cevizoglutga: I'm joking, ubuntu is the opposite of that10:36
Somada141please someone i need help with that10:36
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tombalablombadid anybody install openldap on ubuntu?10:36
tga!tell Somada141 about restrictedformats10:36
naliothSomada141: do you have all your repos enabled?10:36
thoreauputicSomada141: have you enabled dma on your drives?10:36
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cevizoglutga: no, I said hard to install.  qnx is insanely easy to install10:36
tombalablombaas i always run into the same SASL problems with it10:36
bob2DaOne: if you found out the exact name I might be able to help10:36
Somada141why?10:37
bob2selinium: install it to /usr/local/wine or whatever10:37
TziHi!  Anyone else got problems with gdm on Breezy?  I fixed it by adding "|| true" in /etc/init.d/gdm, line 33...10:37
Somada141i don't play from discs but from the hard drive10:37
bob2selinium: installing IE as root is the issue, not wine10:37
cevizoglutga: er, I guess I didn't mention installing.. time for sleep10:37
seliniumhi nalioth thoreauputic! Fanct meeting you here! lol10:37
naliothselinium: do i know you? :)10:37
tgacevizoglu, solaris is fun to install.. not hard but takes forever10:37
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DaOnebob2: also, how do i log in as root?10:37
thoreauputicselinium: vaguely familiar nick... seen you somewhere...10:38
KezzaDaOne, sudo su - then set a password10:38
Kezzausing paswd10:38
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Kezzaer, passwd10:38
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bob2DaOne: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:39
benplauthow can i tell the compter to shut off after 2 hours?10:39
Bateau_hey!, i just installed apache, php and mysql (going to make som homepages). but when i try to do mysql_connect(); it says its an undefined function. what have i forgot?10:39
bob2benplaut: sleep 2h ; sudo shutdown -h now10:39
bob2benplaut: if you have passwordless sudo, anyway10:39
benplautso10:39
thoreauputicbenplaut: speak sternly to it and tell it to shape up ;)10:39
seliniumbob2: THat is ok, i have installed wine as root. But how would you go about installing IE security wise? Would you create a new user and only use that for windows type stuff?10:39
benplautjust do it in a root term, anywy?10:39
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tgabenplaut, no need for the root term if you use sudo10:40
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bob2benplaut: yes10:40
bob2tga: there is-ish in this case10:40
benplautthanks10:40
bob2well, without doing more complicated shell things10:40
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bob2selinium: Ideally, yeah, but I'd probably be too lazy10:40
tgabob2, shutdown gets ran as root anyway10:41
KezzaBateau_, php4-mysql installed?10:41
Bateau_yupp10:41
Bateau_try uninstall, and reinstall?10:41
seliniumbob2: Cheers for the pointers. One assumes then it can only mess up that user?10:41
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KezzaBateau_, nah..  I think there is something in httpd.conf you need to change.10:42
Bateau_mkay, what?10:42
Kezzaif I knew that I would tell you :)10:42
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Bateau_hehe, oki10:42
Kezzai haven't installed php, apache, mysql in a long time..10:42
bob2selinium: yes, tho it could theoretically spwe spam across the interweb, etc10:42
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bob2you don't need to change any config files for that to work10:42
Kezzainstalling apache now..10:43
Kezzaand php and mysql10:43
lastnode/dev/hda5 /media/fat fat defaults 0 010:43
lastnodeshould work in fstab right?10:43
tgalastnode, vfat10:43
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tgalastnode, also you need defaults,umask=0 if you want all users to be able to access that drive10:44
CaiN_SAbob2, when i do Xorg -configure it said : missing output drivers. How do i fix it ?10:44
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seliniumbob2: thanks for all your help, one of the main reasons for switching to *nix was to be rid of malware10:44
bob2CaiN_SA: don't run that10:45
bob2CaiN_SA: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:45
tgalastnode, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountfat10:45
lastnodetga, it's just me10:45
naliothtga: i cant believe you did that10:46
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tgahuh? did what?10:46
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tgalastnode, even so, your user will not have access to the mounted drive if you don't use umask=010:46
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tganalioth, ubuntuguide is not much worse than irc.. at least it's a form of written reference10:47
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naliothtga reference needing a disclaimer not to wander from the destination10:48
tgasame goes for irc10:48
tgaI'm not saying it's great.. an official faq would be much appreciated10:49
bob2there is an official FAQ10:49
bob2and a doc team10:49
naliothtga: more folks 'trust' web pages than irc (on irc you have a buncha folks going NONONONO when an arshole tries to pull a fast one)10:49
bob2tho I don't know what they're doing10:49
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bob2Burgundavia: where can I find the official ubuntu guide for breezy these days?10:49
naliothbob2: they're sittin around with beers, cigars and playin cards10:49
naliothoh hi Burgundavia10:50
naliothheh heh10:50
Burgundaviabob2, the faqguide http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/10:50
bob2neat, thanks10:50
cevizoglutga: listen to the 'bot10:50
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lastnodehow do i run some bash commands i create and save in a file?10:51
pipountype the name of the file in a console10:52
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tgalastnode, either execute the file with `bash yourfile` or put #!/bin/bash as the first line and make it executable with chmod +x yourfile10:52
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naliothtga: nicely put (i was busy typing)10:53
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pointwoodanyone played around with postgresql and phppgadmin? I've just installed it (and apache2), but I'm unsure how to get phppgadmin to work?10:54
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tombalablombaanybody experience with openldap?10:56
tgaafaict the phppgadmin package doesn't configure apache210:56
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tombalablombayou could also try to manage it using webmin10:56
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phoenix_atlantisIm using breezy and Im affected by the problem that my X is not anymore able to handle the swiss german keyboard layout - Is anybody aware if the layout problems should be fixed? So I might figure if it is just a swiss german problem or a wider problem - the german keyboard works though....10:57
lastnodetga, thanks10:57
danstHi I am having a small problem with my session management (dont know if this is the right term for it) in ubuntu: last time I shut my computer down I wanted to try the "save session" checkbox. now I am having the problem that everytime I log in a terminal and some other windows open up. How can I prevent them from opening? I dont know how to make them not autostart!10:57
tgalastnode, np10:57
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tgadanst, close everything before you shut down and save the session10:58
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lastnodetga that fstab edit didnt go too well10:59
lastnodedoes load up10:59
lastnodei have /dev/hda5 /media/hda5 defaults,umask=0 0 010:59
lastnodeoh and vfat in the middle10:59
dansttga, and how can i add some other programms to this autostart folder/script/?. I would like to have gaim startup everytime i login...10:59
tgalastnode: assuming hda5 is the right partition and /media/hda5 exists your fstab line looks good to me11:00
Myrttipointwood: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure phppgadmin11:00
naliothdanst: do you use gnome?11:01
MyrttiI just installed it and it did ask whether to reconfigure what webservers11:01
tgadanst, one way would be to manually add your commands to .xsession in your home dir11:01
tgaI don't know where gnome saves its session info11:01
naliothdanst if you use gnome, try the system menu > preferences > sessions11:02
danstnalioth, yes i forgot to say i am using gnome11:02
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tgahmm.. I never used that.. what file do the startup apps go in?11:02
naliothtga: ~/.gnome somewhere11:02
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tga~/.gnome2/session11:03
naliothtga: using the menu method is easier than editing files11:03
tgait looks nasty though11:03
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tgatrue, but editing .xsession will work across window managers11:03
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danstbut right now there is nothing in the sys-menu >pref>sessions and nontheless it is starting up my terminal...11:04
cbbmy system doesnt detect soundcard. what should i do?11:04
tgacbb, what sound card do you have?11:04
cbbold genius sound maker11:05
tgaold as in isa?11:05
cbbyup11:05
ippiramanis cedega.deb available on the repositories?11:06
tgawhat does modprobe snd-card-fm801 say?11:06
aftertafippiraman:  cedega is $$$ware11:06
thoreauputicippiraman: cedega you pay for11:06
aftertafyou have to pay11:06
cbbFATAL: Module snd_card_fm801 not found.11:06
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hettaranyone here had problems with the intel wireless cards ??11:06
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hettarI keep getting errors like [4378400.006000]  ipw2200: Firmware error detected.  Restarting.11:07
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toxiclehello guys11:07
naliothippiraman: if you feel lucky, you can approach "cedega-cvs"11:07
gthow do i get into run level 3?11:07
toxiclecan you recommend a good console based bittorent client?11:07
ippiramani see. i installed cvscedega but no games worked11:07
gtso as to close x windows?11:07
bob2hettar: it seems the hardware itself is shit11:07
gtif that correct11:07
thoreauputicgt: that won't close X11:07
bob2gt: you don't need to shutdown X11:07
gthow so11:08
hettarbob2, I never had any problems on hoary11:08
tgatoxicle, btdownloadcurses11:08
thoreauputicgt: to stop X do :  sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop11:08
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gtand how will i get back?11:08
toxicletga: apt-get install btdownloadcurses11:08
naliothtoxicle: either standard bittorent from bram, or bittornado11:08
thoreauputicgt: umm - same command, start11:08
gtfigures11:08
gtthanks11:08
naliothtoxicle: you should have it already on your box11:09
bob2hettar: I've seen that error the whole time I've had a centrino laptop11:09
gtthis channel is truely wonderful11:09
toxiclenalioths_dog: how to run it ?11:09
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toxiclenalioth: bittorrent ?11:09
tgacbb, modprobe snd-fm801 maybe?11:09
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naliothtoxicle: open a terminal and type "btdownloadcurses.py file.torrnt>11:09
Deterministok, changed driver to nv and now X works...11:09
Kyttenhey bob 2 i think i found the problem , once i click on the dialup to connect it's gives me this note ( /etc/resolv.conf is missing or can't be read ask ur administrator to creatue this file with approriate read and write premission11:09
Myrttibtdownloadgui11:10
henkif i want to run the translucency stuff smoothly.. what kind of card do you need? whould and simple nvidia card do? or does it use a power gpu ?11:10
Deterministnow i wanna find out how to get my nvidia drivers working again11:10
toxiclethanks i'll tryok thanks i'll try11:10
tgahenk, I don't think translucency works smoothly on any card yet11:10
Deterministhenk: i've seen very strong nvidia cards failing with that thing. it's still buggy.11:10
lastnodetga, it mounts fine11:10
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naliothMyrtti: he wants a console bt client11:10
tgalastnode, great11:10
Kyttenguys anybody can helps me with that11:11
Deterministhenk: but since nvidia still offer better drivers than ATI i'd say you should be alright with anything 6XXX11:11
Kyttento create a file11:11
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henki'm not talking about buggy, i'm talking about what whould run it once its mautre11:11
bob2Kytten: so, I'm pretty sure I told you to ignore that like 12 hours ago11:11
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Deterministhenk: definately nvidia 6XXX then11:11
Kyttenhey bob 2 i think i found the problem , once i click on the dialup to connect it's gives me this note ( /etc/resolv.conf is missing or can't be read ask ur administrator to creatue this file with approriate read and write premission )11:11
cbbtga: no output11:11
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Kyttenwhat can i do bob2 i need to fix it i am not plyaing here11:12
tgacbb, that's good, unmute all the channels with alsamixer and try making some noise11:12
seliniumHi all, i have just installed wine fom cvs, but as it is the first time I have used cvs, I am not sure if it is installed. typing wine in a term does nothing. Butthere was no failure in the cvs build?>11:12
tgacbb, you can also try to look at the last lines in dmesg to see what that module is doing11:12
thoreauputicKytten: does /etc/resolv.conf contain nameservers?  cat /etc/resolv.conf to see11:12
bob2Kytten: ignore whatever gui crap you're using11:12
bob2Kytten: use 'sudo pppconfig' to set it up11:12
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bob2Kytten: then 'sudo pon' to dial11:13
tgaselinium, did you do a cvs build or did you just get the sources through cvs?11:13
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tgawvdial should be alright too.. or the gnome thing11:13
thoreauputicKytten: I agree with bob2 - sudo pppconfig is the way to go11:13
Deterministbob2: would upgrading to breezy from hoary require anything more than changing sources.list?11:13
seliniumtga: both I believe! Following this tutorial.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2999611:13
bob2Determinist: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes11:14
Bateau_how do i recompile apache2 to go with mysql?11:14
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bob2Bateau_: you don't11:14
Bateau_uhm.. ok?11:14
Kyttenthoreauputic : even if there is a file missing like that file /etc/resolv.conf11:14
bob2this is not redhat or gentoo11:14
cbbtga: output alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device11:14
bob2Bateau_: libapache2-mod-auth-mysql - Apache 2 module for MySQL authentication11:14
Bateau_but i want mysql :(11:14
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Bateau_huh?11:14
thoreauputicKytten: just run sudo pppconfig and answer the questions11:14
tgacbb, I guess that wasn't the driver for your card11:15
thoreauputicKytten: it should set up your dialup for you just fine11:15
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tgacbb, sorry, I can't help much with ISA stuff11:15
seliniumBateau_, there is a walk through here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?action=show&redirect=LAMPForHoary11:15
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Kyttenk11:15
cbbok thanx anyway11:15
tgacbb, http://xlife.zuavra.net/columns/20040418/ take a look at this though11:15
Bateau_oki, thanks selinium :)11:15
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seliniumBateau_, np11:15
bob2Bateau_: install that package11:15
emdeexmplayer crashes with a singal 11 on loading DVD's, anyone fixed this?11:15
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Bateau_i allready have that package :x11:16
seliniumbob2: I sent him to the LAMP on ubuntu wiki11:16
toxiclehi i'm back again .. installed bittornado .. but the command don't work11:16
pointwoodMyrtti: thanks, but shouldn't I be able to access it at localhost/phppgadmin ?11:16
toxiclei'm on base install11:16
toxicleso that's why i want a console client11:16
thoreauputicKytten: note that eg com 1 is  ttyS0, com 2 is ttyS1 and so on ( and don't give your provider a name unless you want extra typing beyong "pon")11:16
toxiclei don't have X11:16
bob2selinium: that's not what he/she was asking about11:16
bob2toxicle: sure it does11:17
bob2toxicle: dpkg -L bittornado | grep bin11:17
thoreauputics/beyong/beyond11:17
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bob2toxicle: that shows the executables it includes11:17
toxiclebobbyd: thanks11:25
seliniumbob2: but they should be able to find what there after there tho?11:25
toxiclebob2: thanks11:25
lorenzodAnybody using Gnome with openbox?11:25
naliothtoxicle: is the bittornado python scripts in your $PATH?11:25
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Deterministbob2: any idea where i could find a good gnome alarm clock?11:25
bob2it's way less soul-crushing if you just ask your question11:25
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toxiclebob2: root@blackbawx:~# dpkg -L bittornado | grep bin11:25
toxicleroot@blackbawx:~#11:25
toxiclenothing11:25
gtok so i used that command you huys suguested11:25
thoreauputicDeterminist:  sleep 8h && cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp   ;-)11:25
gtit stopped at a thjing saying it was checking the battery status11:25
gtand wouldnt do anything11:25
toxiclenalioth: i do't know i just apt-get install bittornado11:25
bob2toxicle: a) don't use root, b) "dpkg -l bittornado|tail -n1"11:25
seliniumAny one used cvs to build stuff before?11:25
gtwaited and waited and nothign, so i restated11:25
toxiclebob2: ok i'll try and will be back :)11:25
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bob2selinium: best to be a lot more specific11:25
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pointwoodanyone played around with postgresql and phppgadmin? I've just installed it (and apache2), but I'm unsure how to get phppgadmin to work? I've run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure phppgadmin" but that doesn11:25
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gtbob, ya know, i think im starting o like your cut to the point ass attitude, and i mean that in the most sincere way11:25
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pointwood* that doesn't seem to change much?11:25
toxicleback11:25
toxiclebob2:11:25
toxiclebob2:11:25
toxicletoxicle@blackbawx:~$ dpkg -l bittornado|tail -n111:25
toxiclerc  bittornado     0.3.12-4~5.04u bittorrent client with enhanced curses inter11:25
bob2toxicle: then you don't have bittornado installed11:25
toxiclehrrm11:25
toxiclebbl11:25
gtany ideas whats wrong bob?11:25
bob2I can't see your question on my screen11:25
gtok11:25
gti tried the commond you guys offered11:25
gtand it left windows...x that is... and went to a dos looking screen.. and then nothing11:25
gtno prompt11:25
gtjust stopped at something saying it was checking the battery11:25
bob2I don't know what command you're talking about11:25
gtdesktop pc btw lol11:25
gtthe one to close x ,let me get it11:25
seliniumsorry,  i have just followed the wiki for installing wine. it said build complete, but in the wiki it says it will continue and do the install, but that does not appear to have happened for me!  :)11:25
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seliniumwine wki at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2999611:25
selinium*wiki11:25
gtsudo invoke rc d gdm stop11:25
gtpuntuation removed11:25
bob2that will stop gdm, yes11:25
bob2and leave you at a login11:25
aftertafgt:  you can try /etc/init.d/gdm stop too11:25
thoreauputicaftertaf: does the same thing11:25
gtwhat i need... is a way to stop gdm...and leave me witha  promp11:25
thoreauputicgt: so you login11:25
gttheres no promprt to login11:25
toxiclebob2: sorry no go ... after i install bittornado .. issue dpkg -l ... i get the same thing11:25
thoreauputicgt: name <enter>, pass <enter>11:25
gtits just sitting there with some thing about batterys11:25
aftertafgt: do CTL+ALT+F111:25
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bob2toxicle: then you don't have it installed11:25
gtno im serious, theres no prompt, and no text shows when i type11:25
gtok11:25
bob2toxicle: the first two letters will be ii when it's installed11:25
aftertafjust black, with a _ top left ?11:25
toxiclebob2: but i alreday have it installed ..apt-get install bittornado11:31
bob2toxicle: no, you don't11:31
bob2toxicle: show us the full output from apt, including the command you enetered, in #flood11:31
toxiclebob2: i tried install bittorrent also the same thing happened11:31
bob2it sounds very much like you're ignoring the error from apt11:31
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toxiclepaste on channel #flood?11:31
bob2yes11:31
toxicleok hold11:31
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aftertafgt: reboot, and when it switches from console to X on startup, revert to console with ctl-alt_F111:31
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bob2toxicle: bittorrent != bittornado11:31
toxiclebob2: did you see that?11:31
bob2dpkg -L bittorrent11:31
toxiclebob2: ok11:31
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toxiclebob2: I can't paste ... there's / before the line11:31
toxicleit shows list of files11:31
cbbtoxicle put a symbol in front then11:32
bob2or use a less bad irc client11:32
bob2irssi handles it fine11:32
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toxiclei'm on bitchx11:33
bob2anything is less bad, then11:33
toxiclecbb: many lines ... i can't tried already11:33
bob2sure you can11:33
toxiclehow?11:33
bob2dpkg -L blah | sed -e 's/^/,/'11:33
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toxicleu leet11:33
toxicle:)11:33
toxiclebrb11:33
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toxiclebah flooded11:35
bob2use irssi11:35
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toxiclebob2: perhaps tell me how to use bittorrent ?11:36
toxiclejust run the commandline right?11:36
bob2yes11:36
crtrWhere I can see more repositories for my kubuntu ?11:36
toxiclethe problem is i can't find it11:36
bob2crtr: what are you looking for?11:36
bob2toxicle: yes you can, dpkg -L prints it out for you11:36
bob2btdownloadcurses is perhaps what you want11:36
toxicleok11:36
crtrrepositories ..  more urls ?11:37
toxicleerrr11:37
thoreauputictoxicle: dpkg -L bittorent | grep bin11:37
tga!tell crtr about repositories11:37
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toxiclethanks11:37
crtr10x11:37
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thoreauputics/bittorent/bittorrent11:38
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bob2adding random other repositories is a terrible idea11:39
toxicleis it btdownloadcurses.bittorrent?11:39
toxiclemypapit: hi fellow malaysian :)11:39
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thoreauputictoxicle: just tab-complete the command11:40
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mypapittoxicle, hye11:40
toxicleahh got it at last11:40
toxiclebtdownloadcurses.bittorrent11:40
toxiclethoreauputic: thanks11:40
thoreauputictoxicle: if you hit tab twice you get a list of matches11:40
toxiclemypapit: what brings you here?11:41
seliniumok the install of wine is hanging on Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denied    it does not matter if I chmod 777 this file either? any ideas?11:41
bob2wtf11:41
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toxiclethoreauputic: got that ... don't even know the first letter so i can't inittially11:41
onkarshindeCan anyone tell me if there is any major speed difference between hoary & breezy? What about performance on a 128 RAM machine?11:41
seliniumbob2: that aimed at me? :)11:41
mypapittoxicle, i always hang around here11:42
tgaonkarshinde, if there happens to be a speed difference it's surely not major11:42
mjronkarshinde, probably not that major differences on either count; 128 is a bit low, but should be doable11:42
pazzescocan someone point me in the right directions? Im needing some docs on how to turn Ubuntu into a web/email server.11:42
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toxiclemypapit: oh ok ... didn't see u earlier11:42
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toxiclemypapit: are you going to HITB?11:42
tgaonkarshinde, you don't want to run gnome on 128M of ram.. try using a lightweight window manager like openbox11:42
onkarshindemjr: I am currently running HOARY on 128 RAM. That is why I wanted to know.11:42
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mypapittoxicle, no, i'm occupied with work in alor star11:43
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mjronkarshinde, right, well, expect mostly the same performance11:43
toxiclemypapit: allright .. if you come penang look me up :)11:43
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_van_what about gnome 2.10 and gnome 2.12 performance?11:44
toxicleallright guys .. i'm off work ;P11:44
_van_is 2.12 faster?11:44
onkarshindemjr: Ok. And how about if I make XFCE4 as my desktop environment? Is that faster than GNOME?11:44
mypapittoxicle, sure.. ;)11:44
thoreauputiconkarshinde: yes11:44
lorenzod_van_: it feels so, as long as you avoid metacity.11:44
mjronkarshinde, yes it is, though also less featured; you may want to experiment and make up your mind after11:44
pluffsyhello. I was here yesterday and had weird problems with dhcp (it just couldn't find my dhcp server). anyway, I tried to solve the problem with reinstalling ubuntu. I tried to reinstall two times, but at different places under the installation of ubuntu-base the installer displayed a red background and said the CD was broken. I didn't get any errors of that kind the first time I installed, but do you think the cd might have been broken at that tim11:45
Sionideonkarshinde, just go to synaptic and install it - then log out, choose Sessions and it should be there11:45
bob2gnome on 128mb is always going to suck11:45
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seliniumpazzesco, try http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/08/how-to-setup-a-mailserver-on-a-ubuntu-system/11:45
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bob2pluffsy: why don't you just check?11:45
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onkarshindeSionide: I am not asking how to install it. I was just wondering if breezy is worth the wait?11:45
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pluffsybob2: because my cd-burner is broken, so I need to go over to a friend with my firewire disk and I wonder if I should burn a new ubuntu copy or try another dist.11:46
bitjehi Sionide.. what will you do do otherwise ?11:46
Sionideonkarshinde, oh, mis-read your question - i'd stick with hoary for now..11:46
aftertafpluffsy:  burn another copy or download again....11:46
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pluffsyaftertaf: I have checked the image file with md5 so it seems to be correct.11:47
jo_ehow do I start the samba daemon? invoke-rc.d samba responds with "invoke-rc.d: initscript samba, action "start" failed."11:47
aftertafpluffsy:  reburnage then dude ;)11:47
pazzescoselinium: thanx for that11:47
pluffsyaftertaf: yeah :)11:47
tgajo_e, /etc/init.d/samba start11:47
bob2pluffsy: so, why don't you just check?11:47
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bob2pluffsy: boot expert mode and select "verify disk" or whatever11:47
tgajo_e, with sudo obviously11:47
pazzescowich ver. of linux is Ubuntu based from if any?11:47
bob2verifying the .iso is of no use11:47
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tgapazzesco, debian11:47
jo_etga, "* Starting Samba daemons [fail] "11:47
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tgajo_e, /etc/init.d/samba restart11:48
seliniumpazzesco, no problem!11:48
pazzescotga: thanx11:48
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jo_etga,  * Stopping Samba daemons...                                             [ ok ] 11:48
jo_e * Starting Samba daemons..                                              [fail] 11:48
pluffsybob2: didn't you read what I typed? when I installed it the second and third time it said the disk was broken. but when I first tried it didn't say anything like that, but dhcp was all weird. so I wondered if it was a far fetched idea that the dhcp problem was related to an unstable cd.11:48
onkarshindeSionide: I don't have any net connection at present. So I will have to wait till breezy is final and I obtain my opy from somewhere.11:48
tgajo_e, sounds like your /etc/samba/smb.conf is bad11:48
Sionideonkarshinde, seems fair enough to me11:49
jo_etga, I don't have one!11:49
tgajo_e, what exactly are you expecting samba to do then?11:49
jo_etga, oh, yes I do11:49
jo_etga, how do I know what is wrong with it?11:49
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tgajo_e, take a look at the logs in /var/log/samba/11:50
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bob2pluffsy: so, check it and find out?11:50
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pluffsybob2: oh you mean I should check the installed version?11:50
bob2pluffsy: I mean, verify the CD already11:51
pluffsybob2: but the installer did it twice and failed.11:51
Sionidehttp://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/14/ubuntu-dapper-drake/11:51
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bob2if the installer failed to verify it, the cd is broken11:51
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hadi57hi every one, how do i burn CD's in ubuntu?11:52
pluffsybob2: still for some reason it didn't find the error the first time. and it installed without errors, though with broken dhcp.11:52
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bob2hadi57: insert a blank cd11:52
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jo_ethe samba log has "[2005/09/15 19:36:21, 0]  param/params.c:Section(280)11:53
jo_e  params.c:Section() - Badly formed line in configuration file: ] "11:53
seliniumi cant finish the install of wine it hangs on Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denied If i set perms to 777 it still fails. Any ideas people?11:53
bob2don't set it to 77711:53
bob2that's just asking for trouble11:53
bob2the problem is it can't write to /etc/11:53
bob2which is fine11:53
hadi57what if i want to erase the CD and burn new image11:53
intelikeyhmmm on the install cd  what is the name of the partition tool  i don't see fdisk or cfdisk ?11:53
bob2but means you need to either fix $prefix or install it as root11:53
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bob2intelikey: partman, part of d-i11:53
gtok11:53
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hadi57how to start the CD burning program what is it called?11:53
gtsoi did everything the psge says about 5 times11:54
Sionidehadi57, apt-get install gnomebaker11:54
bob2hadi57: right click on the cd icon and select "erase"11:54
naliothhadi57: when you insert a blank cd, a burning dialog will appear11:54
gtand no invidia splash screen11:54
intelikeybob2 there is no partman ???11:54
hadi57ah ok, thnx11:54
gtand no prewiew available for the 3d screen savers11:54
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intelikeyi need to partition a disk before i can install and i can't find any way to do that.11:55
bob2intelikey: yes there is !!!11:55
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bob2intelikey: the installer prompts you to partition the disk11:55
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intelikeyno it didn't11:55
gtit did me11:55
bob2yes, it does11:55
icc14hello guys11:55
intelikeyno it didn't11:55
gt...11:55
bob2intelikey: so, stop arguing and tell us what steps your magic version of ubuntu had11:55
thoreauputicintelikey: *cough* seems you are in a minority of one11:56
gtany reason the ubuntu nvidia drivers arent working for me?11:56
icc14anyone up to the task of helping a noob set up his pc??11:56
gtyes11:56
bob2it's almost certainly because it's misconfigured11:56
intelikeywhen it gets to the part where it is trying to install the base system it turns red and says you must first partition ...11:56
gtgo to isohunt.org11:56
bob2but guessing what's wrong is very hard fro ma distance11:56
icc14PM me pls11:56
gtdownload windows xp sp211:56
gtburn iso to cd11:56
gtinstall11:56
bob2this is not a warez channel11:56
gti know11:57
naliothicc14: i see no noobs, but you may get help if you ask a question11:57
gtthat wasnt a warez11:57
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bob2also this is highly off-topic11:57
icc14pm me to help me11:57
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bob2icc14: ask a question in here, or leave11:57
intelikeythoreauputic i am the one looking at the thing and it never offered to partition anything....  it is just erroring out on me.11:57
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naliothicc14: ask your question in here, please11:57
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brownie17bob2 service pack 2 is completely free11:57
icc14ok11:57
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bob2ok11:57
icc14how do i get my ubuntu to run windows apps and games11:58
gtbrownie wsa confused11:58
gtwine11:58
gtor whatever11:58
bob2icc14: if you care a lot about windows applications and games, ubuntu is probably not for you11:58
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icc14is there a util for ubuntu besides wine??11:58
thoreauputicintelikey: the default install gives options for partitioning like "guided" etc, from memory11:58
tombalablombaanybody experience with openldap on ubuntu?11:58
bob2icc14: you can buy cedega, www.transgaming.com11:58
bob2tombalablomba: just ask your question already11:58
gtin said case windows might be the best most performance biased option11:58
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icc14windows cost more than ubuntu11:59
bob2icc14: and codeweaver's wine can be bought, too; www.codeweavers.com11:59
gttrue11:59
bob2icc14: yes, so you need to make your own decision11:59
gtget windows 98 from somewhere, msoft doesnt care about it anymore11:59
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bob219:56:57           bob2 | this is not a warez channel11:59
icc14thats y i need your help coz i cant afford windows11:59
gthmmmm11:59
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hadi57how to list all irc servers with x-chat so i can choose with channel to join?11:59
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gtwhat games you wanna play?11:59
tombalablombaI've got good experience with codeweavers stuf12:00
icc14starcraft online, counter-strike online12:00
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intelikeysteps chose lang, chose keyb, sel&mount cd, load debconf files, load installer from cd, detect net, load installer components, detect hardware, install base system ERROR !!!!!12:00
guillem101icc14, try to find alternatives to your win programs in ubuntu (execpt for games)12:00
bob2hadi57: /list12:00
thoreauputicgt, icc14  off topic12:00
hadi57thx bob212:00
bob2hadi57: which is useless, since most servers have thousands12:00
_van_how to update gnome to version 2.12?12:00
bob2_van_: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes12:00
icc14pls help12:00
bob2_van_: note that it is pretty rocky12:00
_van_THNX12:00
icc14this channel is for ubuntu users right??12:01
nalioth_van_: install breezy when it releases12:01
intelikeyERROR = disk must be partitioned...12:01
bob2icc14: if you care about windows games, www.transgaming.com12:01
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bob2icc14: you can purchase cedega to play games12:01
geyzerhow can i change the text that appears when a users ssh's into my ubuntu server?12:01
bob2geyzer: /etc/issue.net, /etc/issue or /etc/motd, I forget12:01
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aftertaf!equivalents12:01
ubotumethinks equivalents is A decent list of linux equivalents and analogues can be found here: http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml#112:01
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thoreauputicgeyzer: /etc/motd I think12:01
naliothintelikey: have you tried running a partitioner from another terminal?12:01
geyzerbob2: ok i thought it was a motd ta12:01
gydagm001cool >> something useful on this piece of crap!!!12:01
geyzerthanks12:01
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bob2gydagm001: awesome attitude12:02
gti concur12:02
intelikeynalioth i was asking what the command is and all i can get out of this channel so far is it did it for me....12:02
gydagm001managed to download a gameboy emulator tho!12:02
intelikeybut it didn't12:02
bob2intelikey: there's no command12:02
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bob2intelikey: I think you missed a prompt, but boot expert mode and select the partitioning stage yourself12:03
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naliothintelikey: open another terminal from your installer (or use a livecd)12:03
vijayhello i have an acer laptop TM2312 and loaded hoary on it12:03
guillem101gydagm001, cout << "what happens to you?" << endl;12:03
naliothintelikey: in the new terminal, run your favorite disk partitioner12:03
vijaythat has an atheroscard12:03
vijaythe people at the #madwifi say there is something wrong with my acpi12:03
naliothintelikey: when finished, return to the login window with the installation running in it12:03
intelikeybob2 i booted server-expert.   there is no selecting "partition *"12:03
naliothintelikey: finish your install12:03
bob2intelikey: then go get a hoary cd12:04
gydagm001try the ftp site leg.uct.ac.za : has emulators!12:04
intelikeynalioth that assumes a linux system on the box in question.   there is none.12:04
naliothintelikey: you can do what i am telling you from the installer disk12:22
gtput the hard drive in a windows box, and format it there12:22
intelikeybob2 this is a hoary hedghog cd  duh12:22
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vijaymy dmesg is put up at http://rafb.net/paste/results/FmR2RF44.html12:22
bob2intelikey: then boot the default installer12:22
bob2intelikey: if that works, file a bug12:22
naliothintelikey: i had to do the same exact process on my mac the other day12:22
bob2and lose the attitude12:22
intelikeyit will not boot default bob2 !12:22
gtuse whatever os you used to make the cd... that whould work, to partition the cd12:22
intelikeyi told you that hours ago12:22
geyzeris there a command that will show the cpu speed and amount of ram etc?12:22
ghostdoghow do i find a broken link in the synaptic repository?12:22
intelikeyit falls into a loop12:22
gydagm001??? y is every1 here disscussing boring things?!!!12:22
gt...12:22
gydagm001...12:22
aftertafgydagm001:  type /topic ;)12:22
gtthis wasnt intended to be an "interesting" channel i dont think12:22
thoreauputicgeyzer: cat /proc/cpuinfo  ; free -m12:22
geyzerthanks thoreauputic12:22
gydagm001o12:22
gydagm001soz12:22
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vijayneed help12:22
aftertafu can go to ubuntu-offtopic for more chatty type chan..12:22
vijayi have an acer TM2312 with ubuntu loaded12:22
gydagm001join #madwifi12:22
gtanyone here know how to instal the nvidia drivrs?12:22
gti tried the wiki method12:22
vijayit has a atheros card and i loaded madwifi12:22
thoreauputicgydagm001: this is a help channel - #ubuntu-offtopic for general discussions12:22
gtit aint working so far12:22
aftertafgt:  dpends which ones...12:22
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gthow do i cnfigure it if somethings configured wrong?12:22
vijaythe madwifi guys say something is wrong with my dmesg12:22
aftertafgt:  i used the nvidia binaries. the ubuntu ones did no good to me.12:22
vijayit is pasted at http://rafb.net/paste/results/FmR2RF44.html12:22
gthow do i use them?12:22
gti want accelrated 3d12:22
gtthat is most importnat12:22
aftertafi cant help you for the ubuntu ones, they crashed my system12:22
gti want official then12:22
gti can get them working till they say i need to not be in x12:22
mjrhmm, are there hoary acroread 7 packages somewhere, or do the breezy packages install on hoary?12:22
gtthen i dont knwo what to do12:22
intelikeynalioth the live cd wont boot in 32m ram  so it looks like this box can not run ubuntu.....  it can't run mdk either if that is any conciliation12:22
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gt32 mb wont run ubuntu i thought it required 12812:22
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intelikeydifferent reason. tho12:22
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intelikeythe install cd says 24m12:22
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naliothintelikey: you can partition with the install disk12:22
concept10Anyone here had success updating to breezy? (without many problems, bugs are expected) ...12:22
naliothintelikey: i can walk you through it (in another channel) if you like12:22
intelikeyok nalioth walk me through it.12:22
naliothconcept10: yes, it's a rocky road12:22
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concept10nalioth: are you on it yet?12:22
guillem101intelikey, 32m RAM? that is so '95... I guess RH4.2 or RH5.2 would be better for that box12:22
aftertafconcept10:  yep... but hair pulling and muchas apt-getting12:22
gti would like to know how to get into a console, without x running, other than pressing alt cntrol f2 or whatever12:22
nalioths_dogconcept10, i am on breezy. woof12:22
gtthat seems to crash my pc12:22
concept10aftertaf: hair pulling for ?  im not worried about the package grab12:22
aftertafgt:  nope, but its the nvidia ubuntu drivers that did the same on my setup.12:22
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guillem101gt, don't run gdm. /etc/init.d/gdm stop12:22
gti can get them installed i think if i can jsut get x turened off, and havea prompt12:22
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aftertafconcept10:  ill let you know tomorrow, my home PC is currently on Broary ;)12:22
gtwhat should i run then?12:22
aftertafor Heezy :D12:22
guillem101gt, also, you may chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm so it is not started12:22
vijayacpi setting help12:22
galorinI'm using the latest kubuntu.  Is there anything that I need to do in orer to get cd recording to work?12:22
naliothgt: you can use the VESA driver for now12:22
aftertafgt:  ^^^^---- yep12:22
gti need performance12:22
aftertafand remove the ubuntu nvidia driver packages12:22
gtrraw, unadulterated perfromance12:22
aftertafgt:12:22
aftertafgive us a chance!12:22
guillem101galorin, use k3b (or install it if not yet available)12:22
gtso i  uninstall the unbuntu drivers....12:22
ghostdoghow can i change my display settings its kinda locked to 640x800 and has 60Hzs ? how can i change it ?12:22
gtrun the chmod commmand so x wont start...12:22
aftertafchoose between a broken nvidia without acceleration, or vesa... you won't have "rraw, unadulterated perfromance" yet12:22
thoreauputic!fixres12:22
ubotusomebody said fixres was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto12:22
naliothgt: you dont have to uninstall anything, just choose the VESA drivers12:22
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snorksls12:22
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gtthey will do three 2 well?12:22
thoreauputicghostdog: see ubotu above12:22
fortnoxGuys i am having a slight problem i use the fglrx drivers. When i run glxgears i get this error (Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".) why is it looking for xfree i am using xorg. this happend after i updated to breezy.12:22
galoringuillem101, it complained about not having cdrdao, I installed that, but k3b can't see the drive.12:22
aftertafnalioth:  not sure..... the ubuntu =nvidia packages mess things up (imhe)12:22
gtow do the official ones run?12:22
aftertafbetter with the official nvidia.run file12:22
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aftertafgt:  go on the nvidia site and read... i learned that way ;)12:22
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gtafteraf, what steps did you have to complete to run it sucesfully?12:22
gtok...12:22
snorksman shell12:22
aftertafgt:  they have a good step by step... but first you'll need to go VESA and remove the apt packages for nvidia.12:22
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aftertaftry it... it worked for me.12:22
ubuntuhello12:22
gtf it this is too complicated12:22
gti dont even care this much12:22
gti give up on video drivers12:22
seliniumbob2: the command I am using is sudo make install;echo /usr/local/lib>>/etc/ld.so.conf;/sbin/ldconfig i cant see why it wont write to the file?12:22
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gtok there is one last issue in my instal12:22
gtwhneever i reboot...12:22
ubuntui just want to know if linux is better than windows12:22
gti have to deactivate and reactivate the eth0 card12:22
bob2selinium: haha12:22
seliniumbob2: go on! :)12:22
gtbetter? get ready for an argument wr12:22
yangis it universal?12:22
bob2selinium: because the writing to that file is done by your shell, not sudo12:22
bob2selinium: er, not echo12:22
bob2selinium: so even if it was sudo echo, it wouldn't work12:22
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gtwindows would seem the more compatible and suer freindly choice12:22
bob2selinium: echo /usr/local/lib | sudo tee -a /etc/ld.s.conf12:22
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aftertafgt:  your choice.... or wait in vesa/nv drives till breeezy comes out....12:22
galoringuillem101, cdrecord also fails.  I'm calling it by cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc and it seems like cdrecord locks up12:22
bob2ubotu: neither is better or worse12:22
ubotubob2: okay12:22
bob2bah12:22
yangi dont like this room12:22
bob2ubotu: forget neither12:22
gtarent i on breezy?12:22
ubotui forgot neither, bob212:22
aftertafgt:  and read the nvidia faq, it helps a lot12:22
gtim on breezy12:22
bob2nvidia on breezy seems kinda broken12:22
_van_=] ] ] 12:22
aftertafgt:  it isnt stable yet......12:22
aftertafbob2:  hehe12:22
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gtso they will mkae drivers for breezy that are faster?12:22
Deterministok, got my system back to working the way i like it :D12:22
gtcause when they actually work, and show the 3d screen savers... the ubuntu ones are just slow, not bad12:22
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seliniumbob2: so sudo make install;echo /usr/local/lib | sudo tee -a /etc/ld.s.conf;/sbin/ldconfig   then?12:22
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bob2selinium: yes12:22
aftertafgt:  i dont know.... i use the nvidia drivers from nvidia, only way i can have accelerated X12:22
gtso they do work?12:22
gtjesus i just cant figure out how to instal them12:22
gtthis is enraging12:22
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thoreauputicgt: I suggest you use hoary until breezy is released12:22
aftertafgt: my advice, to leave or to follow, is this:12:22
seliniumyang: wgat up?12:22
thoreauputicgt: you are just making your life harder12:22
seliniumyang: whats up?12:22
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aftertafgt:  remove the nvidia packages with synaptic, then modify xorg.conf to use vesa, then go to nvidia website and download the driver (read the howTo), then install it.12:22
gtok gravy12:22
gthow do i modify xorg?12:22
naliothanyone know what sort of fdisk comes on the installer?12:22
Belutzgt: /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:22
aftertafthx Belutz ;)12:22
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Deterministis there a way to make sudo not ask for a password, as in supply one for it using cmdline from a shortcut? there are afew tools i use often and am tired to keep typing the password all the time12:23
Belutzaftertaf: no worries mate :)12:23
aftertaflate for food as it is ;)12:23
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thoreauputicintelikey: why are you on IRC as root?12:23
galorinDeterminist, visudo and edit the definitions there12:23
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naliothpretty weird, the installer not having a fdisk on it12:23
Deterministgalorin: thanks12:24
gtok so when i restart in vesa mode.12:24
gtwill x still be running?12:24
bob2nalioth: it's a debian-installer module called partman12:24
naliothbob2: thanks12:24
intelikeyok i'm back and i still want to hear it one more time.   is there any way to manually invoke the partitioner on the ub install cd hoary ?12:24
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intelikeythoreauputic i'm not.12:24
gtis there any way to instal the nvidia drivers while x is on still?12:24
Deterministintelikey: your host suggests you are...12:25
_van_is breezy stable enough now to use it on a desktop PC?12:25
bob2intelikey: boot expert mode, choose the partition option12:25
Deterministgt: nope, at least not that i know of. what's the issue with closing X tho?12:25
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bob2_van_: apparently not if you care about the nvidia modules12:25
gtit seems to hang12:25
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intelikeyno my irc client suggests i am, because i told it to.12:25
gtat the screen that looks like dos12:25
thoreauputicintelikey: could have fooled me... /whois intelikey says you are12:25
DeterministSeveas: lo mate12:25
gtshows lots of text and stops at detecting the battery12:25
thoreauputicintelikey: but whatever12:26
naliothintelikey: please return to school12:26
naliothintelikey: i can help you now12:26
intelikeybob2 is there a differance in expert and server-expert ?12:26
smottokay i have a tangentially related question... where is the backslash on the US keymap?12:26
intelikeynalioth ?12:26
_van_bob2, ye i care..but i want to try gnome 2.12, how to install it without upgrading to breezy then?12:26
Deterministsmott: near the right shift button?12:26
Seveasoi12:26
gtunder the back space key?12:27
naliothintelikey: i have the information necessary to help you. return to school please12:27
bob2intelikey: why don't you try and see?12:27
Determinist_van_: garnome... and alot of headache12:27
holy_cow_van_, downlod the live cd12:27
bob2_van_: just wait12:27
holy_cowwhy intall it at all?12:27
bob2come on folks, no need to get snippy12:27
galorinhmm looks like it's a HW prob with my cd-burner.  Sometimes it's there, sometimes it's not...   fun12:27
LaserLineHello all, I have a slight problem - I have an HP NX9030 laptop that came preinstalled with Windows XP PRO (I have the original cd came with the laptop).12:27
LaserLineI wiped the drive, and Installed only linux. Now before breezy comes, I want to dual boot XP and Breezy, So I wiped the drive again (killdisc) and when I try to install XP - I recieve a cd key error - because I have 2 letters/numbers wiped from the sticker.... and I can't read them - What can I do ?12:27
intelikeynalioth ?12:27
holy_cow*oops* sorry!12:27
_van_ok, then i i'll just have to wait...12:27
holy_cowdidn't mean for that to be interpreted as sinppy :)12:27
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holy_cow_van_, why wait, download the live cd bro :)12:28
gtlasere line12:28
gtcall msoft12:28
galorinLaserLine, guess?12:28
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gtor guess12:28
gtor get a hammer12:28
gtand apply it to the cd12:28
_van_holy_cow,  no :]  it'll be more interesting to wait :)))12:28
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holy_cow_van_, hehe :)12:28
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galorinI prefer gt's last idea.  Very practical.12:29
holy_cow_van_, indeedy it well, breezy is looking really really great!12:29
smottDeterminist: how am i supposed to produce it though :/12:29
holy_cowi'm running it on a spare p400 believe it or not12:29
_van_holy_cow, and there'll be no problems with nvidia on the stable release?12:29
LaserLinegalorin I tried, but It locks up every time.... Isn't there a utility that I can extract the cdkey from the CD itself ?? I know you can extract the cdkey from the registry... but from the CD itself I Can't find any..12:29
holy_cowits actually very very usable12:29
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gtthe hammer application to the cd of course is likelt because someone who comes to an irc chanel knows exactly what to do whena cd key is lost...12:29
holy_cowvan that drives get recompiled for  you, if they don't get recompiled you can always use the debian method of installing them12:30
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Deterministsmott: hmm?12:30
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smottDeterminist: which keys to press to get the backslash character (this is related to ubuntu in that i cant get it to use my own keymap heh)12:31
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holy_cowbob2, you work for canonical, correct?12:31
Deterministsmott: erm, not sure really...12:31
chickboiecneed help12:31
galorinLaserLine, to the best of my knowledge, XP uses funky math to come up with the cd keys, so any valid cd key would work.. but I don't know, seeing as I haven't used XP12:31
chickboiecpm me ? anyone12:31
holy_cowLaserLine, call ms, they will help you out12:31
galorinchickboiec, just post it in here12:31
naliothchickboiec: ask in channel here where the group mind can think12:32
chickboiecu see i have the cedega 4.3 and winex how can i use it12:32
gti hear applying a handgrenade to any oen who comes to a linux channel to ask about xp helps12:32
holy_cowLaserLine, that is the correct way of dealing with that12:32
chickboiecactually i havent install it yet12:32
Seveasnalioth of borg has spoken :D12:32
chickboieccouse i loose my root password12:32
bob2holy_cow: no12:32
naliothSeveas: we ARE a collective mind in here12:32
holy_cowLaserLine, their customer service for that situation is actually quite decent, they usually believe anything you say as long as you say you bought it or whatever12:32
naliothSeveas: just not to friendly at times, lol12:32
BelutzLaserLine: why don't you contact Microsoft?12:32
galorinchickboiec, that sounds like fun..12:32
LaserLineHoly_cow, because Thee laptop is HP (I have a balck HP Windows CD) they say HP supports me... but HP says microsoft - I'm in the middle !!!!!! I hate this.12:32
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intelikeyand i guess im root......   not.12:33
jeanrehi all12:33
SeveasWe are the ubuntu, prepare to be assimilated, resistance is futile :D12:33
gthe wants us to tell him a crack/srial site12:33
gtthats what this is all about12:33
jeanrewhen I try to install php4 on warty I get an error12:33
holy_cowLaserLine, call back, don't tell them what laptop it is12:33
chickboiecask? can i still play ragnarok, warcraft and gunbound using ubuntu?12:33
jeanre  php4: Depends: libmm13 but it is not installable12:33
holy_cowLaserLine, oh wait, oem winxp then?12:33
gtcall them and say you are bill gates daughter, and you cant turn your pc on12:33
galorinQuick question, Anyone in here running the ipw2200 chipset?12:33
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holy_cowLaserLine, well welcome to linux, you wont get that type of runaround here12:33
chickboiecask? can i still play ragnarok, warcraft and gunbound using ubuntu?12:33
jeanrecan anyone help me?12:34
LaserLineHoly_Cow Yes. Black XP CD. "support for this cd provided by XP"12:34
holy_cowbob2, ah k.  i'll ask my q in a more generic way then12:34
gthe ment hp i think12:34
jo_ewhere are packages cached when apt-get downloads them?12:34
LaserLineholy_cow I know, I love linux - it's great ! (I don't play so I don't care about 3D graphics)12:34
bob2holy_cow: (used to)12:34
jeanreapache installed fine12:34
bob2jo_e: /var/cache/apt/archives/12:34
LaserLineholy_cow Is there a way ? HP Support sucks !12:34
thoreauputicjo_e: /var/cache/apt/archives12:34
holy_cowLaserLine, if thats the case, buy vmware and run win in that12:35
holy_cowi do12:35
gtlaser line12:35
jeanrebob2: any ideas on my issue12:35
gtheres waht you do12:35
gtyou go to a computer store12:35
bob2jeanre: you're using broken packages12:35
LaserLineholy_cow But I bought windows with the laptop12:35
gta used pc store12:35
bob2jeanre: paste /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood12:35
holy_cowLaserLine, so what?12:35
gtask them if youi can look at a copy of xp12:35
gtand then memorize the key12:35
jo_ebob2, thoreauputic, thanks12:35
holy_cowoh wait, you won't be able to run it in vmware either, you still have the same reg problem12:35
chickboieci need help help me pls12:36
holy_cowLaserLine, there is one other alternative12:36
jeanrebob2: can I pm12:36
jeanrenot going to paste tho12:36
gtgoogle crackspider12:36
bob2jeanre: no12:36
gtthey will tell all\12:36
gtthanks for getting me booted likely12:36
Belutzchickboiec: you could use wine or cadega to run those games12:36
Gorgonzolacan someone give me a quick outline of what i need to do in ubuntu to swap from one video card to another (swapping from gf2 to gf3) ... do you have to uninstall the old one and then reinstall the new one  somehow like in windows?12:36
bob2if you want help, you ask in the channel12:36
LaserLinehow_cow and it is ?12:36
chickboiecwat are the requirements so i can run my onligames here at ubuntu12:36
bob2if you want private help, my rates are very reasonable12:36
jeanrebob2: ok The following packages have unmet dependencies:12:36
jeanre  php4: Depends: libmm13 but it is not installable12:36
jeanre        Depends: apache-common (>= 1.3.31) but it is not installable12:36
jeanreE: Broken packages12:36
Seveasjeanre, DO NOT paste in here12:36
jeanrebut I want apache 212:36
galorinchickboiec, in ubuntu, type in sudo su, then type in your normal user password, then type in passwd, which will allow you to change the root password.12:36
bob2jeanre: stop pasting shit in here12:36
bob2jeanre: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood12:37
jeanresorry guys12:37
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Seveasjeanre, get libapache2-mod-php412:37
bob2Gorgonzola: power down. swap cards. power up.12:37
Gorgonzolabob2, is it that easy?12:37
holy_cowLaserLine, there are serial generators for winxp ... the problem is they run in winders.  if you can get access to a winxp install you should be able to generate a new activation code and use that12:37
gtwhy is pasteing bad?12:37
bob2Gorgonzola: yes12:37
Belutzchickboiec: i don't know about the requiremenst, you could check at http://www.transgaming.com or http://winehq.com12:37
Gorgonzolabob2, is it because they both use the same nvidia drivers?12:37
bob2gt: because it makes my screen scroll by, and disrupts everyone else's conversation12:37
bob2Gorgonzola: yes12:37
LaserLineholw_cow didn't understand......12:37
Gorgonzolabob2, sweet! thanks12:37
bob2Gorgonzola: if they used different drivers, there'd be an extra step12:37
LaserLineholy_cow I can't install the XP Cd12:37
gtlaser line12:38
Gorgonzolabob2, for my learning... what step would that be?12:38
gtim gonn say it one last time cause its what you want to hear12:38
gtgo to liabrary12:38
holy_cowfor any ubuntu devs: i keep on running into debian dd's.  the usualy complaints mostly fall in the 'philosophy differences' category or something along those lines12:38
naliothLaserLine: this is not the place for XP troubles12:38
gtuse their pc, or anyones12:38
BelutzLaserLine: go find a serial key on google, there are plenty12:38
gtgo to google12:38
gtand google crackspider12:38
holy_cowthe only concern i run into occasionally is about ubuntu devs not submitting patches back to debian12:38
gttype in xp serial12:38
gtvoila12:38
thoreauputicgt: this is totally off topic12:38
bob2Gorgonzola: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, pick the correct driver12:38
gti know12:38
bob2gt: enough12:38
gthe wont stop asking12:38
LaserLinegt, I don't want to hack the CD !!12:39
bob2LaserLine: we don't care, talk to HP or MS or no one12:39
Seveasgt, you won't stop avoiding bans12:39
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shinudo all orinoco cards work find with linux?12:39
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holy_cowi have a sneaky suspicion that ubuntu devs do, but its not accepted by debian or something in between the two positions12:39
Gorgonzolabob2, oh, yes i should have figured that out myself, thanks again :)12:39
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bob2shinu: should do12:39
gtwhy if i say something but belutz says i fistrst, i get whined at?12:39
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holy_cowanyone care to editorialize on that?12:39
Seveasgt, so leave now or be banned again12:39
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bob2holy_cow: "the usualy complaints"?12:39
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csirkefogsziasztok12:39
bob2gt: drop it12:39
gtdone12:39
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holy_cowLaserLine, *hmmm* hp is y our only source of help then :/12:39
bob2Gorgonzola: np12:39
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holy_cowbob2, the usual complaints are about ubuntu 'stealing' manpower, and the like, which are unfair critiques12:40
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chickboiec@gorgonzola ?? where im going to put it? on the login?12:40
bob2holy_cow: I've never heard anyone from Debian say that12:40
bob2holy_cow: #ubuntu-offtopic, tho12:40
shinubob2: alright, cause i saw this orinoco silver on ebay and thought of buying12:40
shinu:)12:40
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gt...12:41
naliothgt: please be civil12:41
holy_cowoh ther eis a chan for such things12:41
holy_cowheh12:41
holy_cowthx didn't know12:41
chickboiecgorgonzola can i pm u for a while?12:41
gti havent even been talking12:41
bob2come on folks12:41
Bateau_any know how i can change the mysql password for cacti?12:41
gtjust listening12:41
bob2no need to raise the level of annoyingnes12:41
csirkefogvalaki tud magyarul?12:41
mustafu........?12:41
naliothgt: you've been sent the Code of Conduct, have you read it?12:41
mustafuI missed something, I s'pose12:41
Seveascsirkefog, stick to english in here please12:41
osfameron!hu12:41
ubotuNot a clue, osfameron12:41
bob2csirkefog: this is an English-only channel, sorry12:41
csirkefogok12:41
osfameronno hungarian then?12:41
gtim smart enough to figure it out, its basic internet etiquet im sure12:42
Seveasosfameron, #ubuntu-hu perhaps12:42
chickboiecin ubuntu, type in sudo su, then type in your normal user password, then type in passwd, which will allow you to change the root password. where am going 2 type this?12:42
gthense me not tlaking anymore12:42
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deFrysk!hu12:42
csirkefog /etc/fonts/fonts.conf12:42
csirkefog ?????12:42
bob2osfameron: no12:42
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Seveaschickboiec, nowhere12:42
galorinchickboiec, launch konsole12:42
Seveasyou'd better not set a root password12:42
chickboieclaunch console12:42
bob2chickboiec: if you don't know what it means, don't do it12:42
chickboiec?12:42
chickboiecwhere is it?12:42
galorinchickboiec, but under ubuntu you don't need the root password12:42
intelikeybob2 i sure wish you had to see what i'm looking at.       rebooted    typed "expert [return] "   and guess what.     there has not been any change what so ever.   still no chance to partition anything.12:42
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galorinchickboiec, that's what sudo is for12:42
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chickboiecno actually im saving all the things ur saying sa i could give to my brother12:43
bob2intelikey: awesome12:43
bob2intelikey: file a bug, ranting on irc will not fix it12:43
intelikeyyeah tell me about it  :)12:43
gtdid anyone have any idea why i had to deactivate then activate my etho each time i reboot?12:43
galorinchickboiec, better to put him on than try to explain..12:43
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messiahsi've a question12:44
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chickboiecah ok12:44
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Seveasmessiahs, then you're at the right place12:44
Red_Bulletplease help me12:44
galorinchickboiec, that way he can try things as we're talking12:44
intelikeyok but let me finnish my rant first.      any install/boot disk should have fdisk on it.    there now i'm finnished.12:44
chickboiecanyway > youll be seeing me for a while12:44
bob2Red_Bullet: you need to actually ask a question first12:44
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naliothRed_Bullet: dont start whining already. ask your question12:44
Red_Bulletwhen i start eggdrop it tell not found config file12:44
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chickboieci have 2 fix dis 1 >> theres a raid going here at our country and im avoiding it12:44
Red_BulletEggdrop v1.6.17 (C) 1997 Robey Pointer (C) 2004 Eggheads12:44
Red_Bullet[13:27]  --- Loading eggdrop v1.6.17 (Thu Sep 15 2005)12:44
Red_Bullet[13:27]  * CONFIG FILE NOT LOADED (NOT FOUND, OR ERROR)12:44
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naliothintelikey: your disc is non standard12:45
SeveasRed_Bullet, then create the config12:45
naliothRed_Bullet: please dont paste in here12:45
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deFryskRed_Bullet, stop flooding please12:45
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Red_Bulletsorry12:45
Seveasread the manual to find out how, this is not an eggdrop support channel12:45
Red_Bulletsorry mans12:45
thoreauputicRed_Bullet: you have been here long enough to know better than to paste12:45
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intelikeyit was mailed from the ub site nalioth12:45
gtmaybe he has some kind of laptop specific type thing, like its specific for one purpose, and its non standard due to this12:45
gtwhere did he get the cd?12:45
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gtburn a new one12:45
gtif you can12:45
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naliothintelikey: a lot of those discs were not pressed correctly12:45
Red_Bullethow to create conf file12:46
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Red_Bulletfor eggdrop12:46
Seveasread the manual to find out how, this is not an eggdrop support channel12:46
intelikeygt dialup12:46
Red_Bulletwhere is eggdrop chanel12:46
bob2Red_Bullet: #eggdrop12:46
chickboiechow can i install Irc at ubuntu anyone know how? im using xp2 right now and dont know how 2 add new software at ubuntu?12:47
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robzonhey12:47
intelikeylet me ask one thing more does anyone know which step the partitioner is supposed to start in ?12:47
deFryskchickboiec, irc is already available in ubuntu12:47
Belutzchickboiec: XChat is installed by default12:47
chickboieci have here 2 cd12:47
Seveaschickboiec, there's an irc client installed by default12:47
chickboiecok12:47
chickboiecill change 2 ubuntu brb12:48
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Red_Bulletima li bulgari12:48
chicken-manHi every one :-P12:48
bitjefunny name ;)12:48
deFryskRed_Bullet, english please12:48
Red_Bulletsorry i ask for Bulgarians12:48
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robzonI've inserted Ubuntu 5.10 CD and it asked me if I want to upgrade.. I've chosen open package manager, but later decided I want Ubuntu to do the dirty work.. the problem is that, when I re-insert CD it deosn't ask me what I wanna do anymore... is there a way to make Ubuntu forget that I've already answered his question?12:48
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bob2Red_Bullet: this is not a social channel, sorry12:48
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[psycho] DDHi12:52
robzonok, nevermind, I've got it :) (just remove the 5.10 CDs from /var/lib/apt/cdroms.list in case anyone wants to know...)12:52
ghostdogwhere can i get themes for ubunto12:52
ghostdog?12:52
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intelikeycan someone that has a "good" install cd, please boot it in something and start expert and tell me when it asks about partitioning ?   so i can be more specific about the bug.12:52
naliothghostdog: www.deviantart.com www.gnome-look.org12:52
intelikeyyou don't have to install....12:52
thoreauputicghostdog: sudo apt-get install gnome-themes-extras12:53
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[psycho] DDCan some help me with this error? Isolinux: Disk error 01, AX + 42DB,912:53
bob2sounds like the disk is broken12:53
ghostdogcan thanks man12:53
[psycho] DDDisk is working on this pc but not on the one i want to install12:53
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mdkei need a new version of ndiswrapper. does anyone know if it is backported?12:54
bob2perhaps the cd drive is broken12:54
mdkeif so, where can I download a deb?12:54
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thoreauputicghostdog: that package is in "universe" BTW12:54
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[psycho] DDCd drive is working with windows install cd12:57
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dmoyneHello ! ; can we safely try to upgrage to "Breezy" ?12:57
deFryskdmoyne, about oct13 for sure12:57
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dmoyne deFrysk : thanks I'll be waiting for final release !12:58
shinudo ipod work fine under ubuntu?12:58
dmoyneHas anybody installed all users under LDAP ?12:58
shinuare they just like an sda device?12:58
deFryskshinu, ipodder you mean ? works fine in breezy12:59
mjrshinu, should be, but I haven't tried one personally12:59
shinudeFrysk: ippoder?12:59
shinumjr: alright cool12:59
deFryskshinu, the podcast receiver12:59
shinudeFrysk: oh... ^^'12:59
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intelikeyso where is it on the site that you can report a bug ?01:00
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deFryskintelikey, /topic01:00
mdkeintelikey, bugzilla.ubuntu.com01:00
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thoreauputicintelikey:  /topic01:00
intelikeyty01:00
intelikeyi didn't think about it being in the topic.    and this is not xchat.01:01
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thoreauputicintelikey: umm - just type /topic in irssi - what are you using?01:02
intelikey~~bx01:02
f00li5hso where does one have to look for a mysql package? i've tried universe and multiverse01:02
thoreauputicah of course :/01:02
f00li5hthoreauputic: meow01:02
intelikeythat command works i was just stating that it is not stairing me in the face like it would be in xchat.01:03
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deFryskintelikey, you asked we answered01:04
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deFryskthe answer was correct01:04
Belutzf00li5h: mysql is in hoary repo i guess01:04
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f00li5hrepo?01:04
Belutzf00li5h: repositories01:04
mjrare there hoary acroread 7 packages somewhere, or do the breezy packages install on hoary?01:04
reikiI've been reading stuff about Evolution now being NOVELL Evolution and will no longer be free. Should I be looking for a new email client?01:04
mjrreiki, you shouldn't01:05
brownie17can someone help me with this? i have a very meagre guide on how to compile a program i want, but i do not understand. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/220201:05
mjrit is Novell Evolution nowadays, but Novell has actually made it _more_ free01:05
deFryskmjr, try evince iso acroread , you might like it :)01:05
f00li5hBelutz: which ones?01:05
[psycho] DDDisk error 01, AX = 42DB,9F <----- somebody an idea? CD is working on other pc and de cdrom drive works fine with windows boot cd01:05
mjr(before Novell, the exchange plugin was non-free, but novell released that as free software also)01:05
reikimjr: more free than... free?  interesting :)01:05
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mjrreiki, see above :)01:06
thoreauputicreiki: novell are pretty enthusiastic about OSS AFAICS01:06
_van_mozilla's thunderbird is a very nice email client :)01:06
Belutzf00li5h: hoary main restricted01:06
f00li5hBelutz: got them.01:06
mjrdeFrysk, yah, for my use I do so like Evince, but I'm putting together an ubuntu-based distro for my work, and we, sadly, need acroread to be in it01:06
Belutzf00li5h: great :)01:07
wordyfellowgreetings all01:07
reikithoreauputic, mjr, ok... I'll keep Evolution. I had thought of switching to Thunderbird but I kinda like Evolution01:07
pipounhi01:07
f00li5hbut no mysql01:07
Determinist_van_: indeed it is. very soothing and simple. no excessive features nobody needs :)01:07
f00li5his it called somethign silly?01:07
Belutzmjr: you could find acroread in multiverse repositories i guess01:07
_van_yep :)01:07
Hoxzeris it possible to run Word 2003 with wine in linux?01:07
brownie17does anybody know how to compile a basic program? hlep would be very much appreciated01:07
Hoxzerjust want to spell check things01:07
seliniumsorry bob2 had to pop out, did you answer?01:07
pipounthere's smhting that I can't understand. I've just installed gcc, but when I type gcc in a shell there a command not found error01:07
aftertafHoxzer:  hehe yeah apt-get install openoffice ;)01:07
mjrBelutz, indeed, but for hoary only 5.x. I could probably repackage the breezy one, was just wondering if anyone'd done it already01:07
seliniumbob2: so sudo make install;echo /usr/local/lib | sudo tee -a /etc/ld.s.conf;/sbin/ldconfig   then?01:07
brownie17hoxzer openoffice has .doc support and spellcheckers01:07
deFryskmjr, /me thinks its in extras01:07
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thoreauputicHoxzer: OO.0 has spell check01:08
pipounand above all I used to think that gcc were install with ubuntu01:08
reiki_van_: I used Thunderbird in XP.. but I pull mail to local spool for filtering reasns and Thunderbird wants you to stand on your head to read from local spool01:08
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deFryskextras of hoary that is01:08
reiki:)01:08
Belutzmjr: try form the backports, i got acroread 7 installed01:08
mjrdeFrysk, Belutz, thanks, I'll check it out01:08
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_van_ahh, didn't knew that :)01:08
Deterministtoo bad debian doesnt have the same services structure redhat does... e.g. service <name> on/off/restart etc...01:08
wordyfellowhas anyone had experience with getting a wireless card to run under Ubuntu?  I am using latest Ubuntu release and the card is lynksyswmp54gs.01:08
aftertafDeterminist:  it does....01:08
deFryskDeterminist, other way around ;)01:08
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Deterministaftertaf: /etc/init.d/... i know of :)01:09
thoreauputicDeterminist: invoke-rc.d <service> start|stop etc01:09
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Deterministand a list of running services?01:09
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brownie17does anybody know how to compile a basic program? Help would be very much appreciated01:09
f00li5hBelutz: it is there, but it complains that it needs perl dbi01:09
aftertafbrownie17:  tarball you downloaded?01:10
naliothbrownie17: lets go to #ubuntu-offtopic01:10
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brownie17aftertaf: um.. it was a .zip01:10
brownie17nalioth: ok01:10
jonphilpottanyone here running ubuntu on a centrino laptop?01:10
deFryskbrownie17, ./configure ; make ; sudo make install01:10
Deterministthoreauputic: see, back when i used fedora i had that little services tool that i could use to see what my system loads by default and i remmember it used to load alot of stuff i didnt need or want loaded. i dont have that kind of tool under ubuntu01:10
HoxzerBrowniel7: in openoffice finnish spell check isn't that good :D01:10
Belutzf00li5h: are you using synaptics or console?01:10
Hoxzerand it doesn't correct full sentences01:10
thoreauputic!bum01:10
uboturumour has it, bum is a graphical BootUp Manager; see http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html01:10
thoreauputicDeterminist: ^^^01:10
seliniumthoreauputic, cant get this 'sudo make install;echo /usr/local/lib | sudo tee -a /etc/ld.s.conf;/sbin/ldconfig' to work cant write the file. any ideas?01:11
f00li5hBelutz: console01:11
jonphilpottim running it on one, i booted up running on battery so cpu went down to 600mhz, now im plugged in and its still running at 600mhz, any idea how i get it to go back to 1.6ghz?01:11
Belutzjonphilpott: i'm running ubuntu on centrino laptop01:11
Deterministthoreauputic: again, i'm talking about something that'll show me all available services and allow me to pick which ones are to be loaded.01:11
Belutzf00li5h: are you going to install the mysql server?01:11
jonphilpotti figured it was supposed to do it automagicly01:11
thoreauputicDeterminist: that's what BUM appears to be01:11
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Deterministthoreauputic: alright, gonna check, thanks01:12
f00li5hBelutz: yes, that was my hope01:12
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Belutzjonphilpott: it will go back to 1.6ghz when needed :)01:12
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thoreauputicOK :)01:12
jonphilpottBelutz: its not doing so, and its spinning down the hard disk, etc01:12
Belutzf00li5h: try this: sudo apt-get install mysql-server01:12
Belutzf00li5h: it will automatically installed all the dependencies01:12
jonphilpottBelutz: i'd prefer it to run full speed when plugged in, any idea where this is configured?01:12
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seliniumI get '/sbin/ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denied' when i try and run 'sudo make install;echo /usr/local/lib>>/etc/ld.so.conf;/sbin/ldconfig' Can anyone help?01:13
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f00li5hBelutz: nope01:13
f00li5h  mysql-server: Depends: mysql-client (>= 4.0.23-3ubuntu2.1)01:13
f00li5h                Depends: libdbi-perl but it is not installable01:13
Belutzjonphilpott: hmm, i don't know about that, but i prefer my laptop not running full speed to reduce heat01:13
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er4z0rre01:13
thoreauputicDeterminist: btw I believe gnome 2.12 includes a boot up manager01:13
f00li5hBelutz: would it help if i pm-spammed you with my sources.list?01:13
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er4z0rcan anybody help me with clamav under Breezy?01:14
Belutzf00li5h: paste your sources.list to me in pm01:14
er4z0rI just can't figure out how to start clamd01:14
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nubeeUserofLinuxto all, can somebody help me, i want to have a manual of ubuntu, where can i download one in pdf form?01:15
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Deterministthoreauputic: that's very nice actually... thanks01:15
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thoreauputicDeterminist: no worries :)01:16
Determinist:)01:16
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intelikeywell i'm not in the mood to regester with ub. so no bug report.    good night guys.01:16
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seliniumCananyone help, I am installing wine from the cvs and losing the will to live!01:17
wordyfellowexit01:17
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er4z0rnot anybody using clamav here?01:18
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naliothwtf is goin on here01:20
seliniumnalioth, ?01:20
spiralhi01:20
crtrWhat was the command to see kernel version..?01:20
naliothblasted bot swarm01:20
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Belutzf00li5h: :)01:21
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Deterministi do have to admit, openoffice is a very nice suite of office applications. i really didnt expect it to be that good. it can actually read .doc and .xls files. just hope MS opens up their fileformats so that oo can read them better01:23
f00li5hDeterminist: open office is more compatible with microsoft documents than microsoft is!01:23
Deterministlol01:24
Deterministbackwards compatible, i'm sure.01:24
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f00li5hyes, it is that01:24
Deterministthat doesnt surprise me.01:24
Belutzi just hope there's an app that can open vsd files01:25
Deterministhttp://www.microsuck.com , give that a read01:25
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f00li5h_|hrm01:25
Deterministvsd?01:25
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Belutzvisio files01:25
Deterministnever used visio... is that some project manager thing?01:25
Belutzits a program to draw diagram01:26
Belutzlike Dia in linux01:26
seliniumthoreauputic, has you ever compiled form cvs?01:26
Deterministi see01:26
selinium*fron01:26
selinium*from doh!01:26
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Deterministi'm hungry01:27
Deterministgonna go hunt01:27
thoreauputicselinium: no sorry01:27
Deterministin the fridge01:27
BelutzDeterminist: could pass me one?01:28
intelikeyfor future reference, i think i have found it.    ub seems to not be able to load all the installer componants in 32m of ram.   it claims to be able to run on 24 but the installer does not load propperly.01:28
intelikeythough someone might want to know.01:28
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aftertaf_after you Belutz  ;)01:29
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Deterministtoke?01:29
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othomaslol01:29
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Deterministi think i'm gonna write my own gdesklets applet :P01:30
Deterministjust gotta learn what python is like tho , heh01:30
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GorgonzolaI have a MS Explorer mouse (or whatever its called) which has one button on each SIDE of the mouse as well as the standard 2buttons+wheel on top... how do i activate the side buttons (im used to using them in firefox as forward/back buttons in windows)01:31
BelutzDeterminist: could you hack the apt-get so i could apt-get pizza ? :D01:31
Deterministi keep hearing about the thing, just never managed to get to it01:31
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DeterministGorgonzola: just a sec, i'll get you a link01:31
GorgonzolaDeterminist, thanks mate01:31
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yahalomanyone using fglrx on breezy?01:32
Deterministhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36653 <--- very simple tweak, worked for my microsoft wireless mouse01:32
DeterministGorgonzola: and you're most welcome mate :)01:32
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GorgonzolaDeterminist, thanks again01:32
GorgonzolaI never realised how much I used these buttons while browsing the web untill they weren't there :)01:33
yahalomu guys must be aussies01:33
ompaulyahalom, who are you calling an ozzie?01:33
ompaul:-)01:33
yahalom;)01:34
Gorgonzolasure am :)01:34
Deterministactually, i'm from israel, just been around too many brits and aussies the last couple of years lol01:34
Gorgonzolahehe01:34
bimberier4z0r: probably "sudo etc/init.d/clamav-daemon start" (if you're still there :P)01:34
Deterministstill havent figured out what sod means tho :/01:34
seliniumbob2: sudo make install;echo /usr/local/lib | sudo tee -a /etc/ld.s.conf;/sbin/ldconfig failed with the same error01:35
yahalomDeterminist: ZAxisMapping" is that  the option for the side buttons01:35
bob2selinium: so don't do it01:35
bob2duh01:35
yahalomDeterminist: sod=dafuk01:35
Deterministyahalom: :)01:36
seliniumbob2: lol, it still cant write to the file. Do you have any further suggestions?01:36
Deterministyahalom: erm, actually, buttons "7" is the option for the extra buttons01:36
bob2selinium: "it" = "sudo make install"?01:36
yahalom=:)01:36
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yahalomDeterminist: so what's ZAxisMapping?01:37
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Deterministyahalom: something to do with the scrollwheel i'll assume01:37
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seliniumbob2: what not install wine or not do the sudo make bit?01:37
bob2selinium: so01:37
bob2selinium: you have a whole line of commands01:37
bob2selinium: which one is actully failing?01:38
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trytohello everybody01:38
Deterministyahalom: an israeli i take it, but not using a local ISP, where you at mate?01:38
wordyfellowhi01:38
trytocan some onne help me01:39
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trytoI'm new to ubuntu and Linux01:39
Deterministtryto: can try... ask a question01:39
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carthikask, unless it is about asking01:39
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trytothanks... I already installed ubuntu at my pc01:39
hussamI upgraded my kubuntu to breezy today. It's working brilliantly. but I get this error at boot:01:39
hussam8139cp: pci dev 0000:02:02.0 (id 10ec:8139 rev 10) is not an 8139C+ compatible chip01:39
hussam8139cp: Try the "8139too" driver instead.01:39
ompaul!tell tryto about ask01:39
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trytono problem on d installation process01:39
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Deterministhussam: realtek NIC?01:40
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trytobut after restart my pc hangs01:40
hussamDeterminist: yes01:40
sunyata:-D01:40
spolarhtymbox segfaults when i start it ! what should i do? i can get juk to work either, i need a jukebox!01:40
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Deterministhussam: i think i saw something about that on the ubuntuforums01:40
seliniumbob2: Sorry, i keyed them all as is. in one line.01:40
trytoits says... starting hotplug subsystem....01:40
bob2selinium: ...01:40
bob2selinium: so see which one actually fails01:40
hussamDeterminist: can I have a link to it?01:41
carthiktryto, use ctrl+c to have it not start hotplug01:41
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carthikwhen it says starting hotplug... use ctrl+c to get out01:41
trytok... try it now...01:41
seliniumbob2: now the sudo make install is failing because mkdir: cannot create directory `/usr/local/man': File exists01:41
bob2selinium: there you go01:41
bob2the install script is broken then01:41
Deterministhussam: www.ubuntuforums.org , use the search function with realtek 8139 , it should find you enough threads or look at the customization tips and tricks ... it has good howtos01:41
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hussamDeterminist: this error wasn't in hoary01:42
Deterministhussam: erm, you using breezy?01:42
hussamDeterminist: just upgraded an hour ago01:43
carthiktryto: looks like there is some reason why hotplug load is failing, search the forums, and the ubuntu-users mailing list archives for leads to start figuring out why... also for support over email from other users, use the ubuntu-users mailing list01:43
GorgonzolaControl+ALT+Backspace restarts  X doesn't it?01:43
carthikGorgonzola, yes01:43
[psycho] DDCan someone tell me how to boot from scsi cd-rom drive?01:43
Deterministhussam: not sure then. perhaps some driver getting fubared on the upgrade process... still, should be the same alltogether as the driver is hardly new01:43
Gorgonzolahmm, might restart it later when i don't have so much work open :)01:43
trytowhen do i need to press crtl+c???01:44
carthik[psycho] DD, update the system bios to boot from that drive01:44
[psycho] DDill have a look @ it thx01:44
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Deterministtryto: when it says stuff about hotplug01:44
seliniumbob2: I think I have messed it all up myself running and re-running make install. If i just delete the folder I can start again right?01:44
trytobuy may pc hangs during that time01:45
hussamDeterminist: the error says I should use "8139too" driver instead, how do I do that?01:45
trytoi cannot use my kaeyboard01:45
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bob2selinium: ok01:45
naliothselinium: i wouldnt delete your man directory01:46
naliothselinium: you'll lose all your man pages01:46
seliniumcheers nalioth01:46
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bob2wtf01:46
bob2that's crap01:46
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bob2lrwxrwxrwx  1 root staff 9 2004-12-05 16:55 /usr/local/man -> share/man01:47
bob2a) symlink01:47
Deterministhussam: i'm not really sure, perhaps should ask bob or seveas01:47
bob2b) ubuntu packages don't put manpages in /usr/local/ anyway01:47
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naliothi'm not as smart as you bob2. just tryin to look out for folks01:47
carthiktryto: http://lists.ubuntulinux.org/archives/ubuntu-users/2005-March/028076.html should help - a simple google search lead me to that and many other pages01:47
Bateau_is there a way to run the crontab without waiting for the timeinterval thingy?01:48
[psycho] DDNot gonna work its controlled by a scsi card from isa slot01:48
seliniumbob2: so do i or dont i? :) Sorry for being such a pain, I am really grateful!01:48
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carthikBateau_, just run the command from the terminal!01:48
bob2nalioth: I'm not ripping on you, sorry01:48
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naliothselinium: do a "file /usr/local/man" and see what it is01:48
naliothselinium: if its a link, trash it01:49
Bateau_carthik: no i cant :P01:49
trytocarthik: thanks man01:49
carthikBateau_, why cant you, what command is it?01:49
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[psycho] DDAre there ubuntu boot floppys?01:49
carthiktry cd to the dir that contains the executable and then sh ./name-of-exeutable ?01:49
Pyfmy ps2 keyboard keeps on just randomly stopping working..... is there a way to reset it to get it work again, its becoming annoying rebooting all the time.....01:49
chicken-manPyf, get a USB keyboard :-)01:50
carthikPyf does restarting x fix it - ctrl+alt+backspace ? or maybe the keybd is broken?01:50
hussambob2: I'm getting this error when I boot to breezy: 8139cp: pci dev 0000:02:02.0 (id 10ec:8139 rev 10) is not an 8139C+ compatible chip , 8139cp: Try the "8139too" driver instead. how would I fix that?01:50
bob2[psycho] DD: no01:50
bob2hussam: file a bug01:50
bob2hussam: including the error and the output of lspci01:50
hussambob2: ok01:51
Bateau_carthik:  oki, i installed cacti. a status thingy to watch servers. and i want it to run the status query right away, instead of waiting the 10 mins for it :P01:51
trytocarthik: but i'm not using live cd01:51
Bateau_carthik: it is a web based thing01:51
[psycho] DDwell then ill need to boot using floppy and then activating scsi cd-rom drive might work01:51
carthikBateau_, so whatever the command is, as it is in the crontab, run it from the command line...01:51
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Pyfcarthik the lights and everything have turned off, like caps lock.... ive tried unplugging it and plugging it in again, to no effect.... i dont think its broken, its worked find up to now....01:52
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carthiktryto, does it not help at all, in any way? i found a a few other results too, when i search for "hangs on hotplug startup ubuntuforums"01:52
Deterministbob2: how does one replace a driver for a network card really? i mean, with GFX it's just altering xorg.conf, but where would the driver for a network card be configured?01:52
Bateau_how can i see the crontab of other users?01:52
bob2Determinist: it's not, really01:53
bob2Determinist: the kernel more or less looks up the pci ID at boot and then loads the right module for it01:53
trytookay i just search d web...01:53
Deterministbob2: ok, so altering the modules file should do it?01:53
harrytuttleDeterminist: you put it in /etc/modules so it is loaded before hotplug, then you blacklist the wrong module in /etc/otplug/blacklist.d/01:53
bob2Determinist: no01:54
bob2hussam: in the short term, adding "8139too" to /etc/modules would fix it01:54
bob2Determinist: oh, you mean for hussam? yes.01:54
Deterministbob2: yes, of course, but was wondering for general knowledge. i realize i have no understanding of the way the system manages hardware drivers01:55
bob2ah01:55
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bob2Determinist: hot plug basically does all of it by looking at the hardware ids and then finding it in a big list the maps id to module name01:55
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hussambob2: won't adding this to /etc/modules load both drivers?01:56
Deterministbob2: so basically a pool of available drivers VS the hardware IDs pulled by hotplug which then loads the driver?01:56
Deterministhussam: not sure mate, but my common sense says that you need to comment out the other driver01:56
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bob2hussam: the wrong one will fail01:57
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bob2Determinist: right01:57
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hussamDeterminist: the other on isn't listed in /etc/modules01:57
Deterministbob2: shouldnt he be able to see something in dmesg about a failing network card driver?01:57
hussamDeterminist I mean te old one01:57
Deterministhussam: see what harrytuttle said afew lines ago01:57
bob2Determinist: he/she did01:57
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Deterministok, i think i understand at least something now :)01:58
Deterministthanks bob01:58
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jeanrehi again all01:59
jeanresorry bout earlier01:59
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jeanreI just installed k3b01:59
jeanreit runs and says creating GUI01:59
jeanrethen stalls01:59
hussambob2: how is the old driver loading? is hotplug detecting the hardware on every boot and loading the driver?01:59
Deterministbob2: another question. i know it may not be the right place and still... why doesnt linux support hardware in a more user visible way, somewhat like the infamous device manager under windows?01:59
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TMMhey all02:00
bob2hussam: yes, it seems to be using the wrong driver02:00
Deterministlo TMM02:00
bob2Determinist: no one implemented it02:00
njanDeterminist, good question, but it's a distribution question, and not a question about linux - the short answer is, some distributions do, but it's always as a front end to what's actually going on in userspace and the kernel.02:00
TMMis it semi-safe to upgrade to breezy? I'm bored and I want to see what's new and shiny :) but I also need my laptop to keep working afterwards :)02:00
jeanreanyone got Idead02:00
Deterministbob2 and njan: thanks02:00
njanDeterminist, and if ubuntu doesn't do it, like bob2 says, that's because no-one implemented it, there's no reason there can't be a GUI for it like there is (to some extent) in SuSE/mandrake.02:00
aftertafTMM:  lol02:00
bob2Determinist: and because linux tends to have centralised hardware support; the vast majority of hardware (module wirless, I guess) is supposrted by the mainline kernel02:00
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njanDeterminist, part of the probelm is, generally (again, as bob2's just said), stuff is supported in the kernel, so either hardware works or it doesn't and you need to dig under the hood anyway - an interface wouldn't really do much aside look pretty02:01
poffy0Hello everyone. I have a question. When I load up Hoary and from the Live CD will it mount the harddrive in my computer?02:01
aftertafTMM:  depends on whether you're lucky... and if you aren't, you can file a bug ;)02:01
TMMah, it's one of those deals02:01
TMM:)02:01
njanpoffy0, no,it'll create entries for it in /etc/fstab, but you'll have to manually mount it yourself.02:01
TMMI just hoped someone would say something along the lines of "probably"02:01
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aftertafTMM:  no guarantees till 5.10 :D02:02
poffy0Once I mount it, can I write to it and execute from it?02:02
bob2if you don't us proprietary display drivers, you should be fine02:02
jeanreeverything hangs on my machine02:02
bob2if you care about nvidia, you may be boned02:02
aftertafTMM:  but i'm praying it is stable enough to let me boot my pc at home tonight ;)02:02
njanpoffy0, depends on the filing system02:02
TMMaftertaf, ghehehe02:02
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Deterministbob2: as far as i understand it, with windows the hardware drivers are loaded very low together with the kernel, does linux work the same?02:02
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njanpoffy0, if it's fat32 or something linux supports (ext2/3, jfs, xfs, etc), then yes.02:02
bob2Determinist: yes02:02
poffy0njan: +HFS?02:02
TMMa well, I have a sperate /home anyway... might as well try it and reinstall if it fails02:02
njanpoffy0, if it's ntfs, you can read from it, but write support isn't safe.02:02
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TMMbut, I doubt it will if there's a pre release out02:03
aftertafbob2:  is that the nvidia own drivers or the ones in repos ?02:03
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njanDeterminist, yes and no. THe drivers fundamentally do the same thing, but the way in which they're treated and distributed are fundamentally different.02:03
bob2Determinist: the issue is more that for windows, random manufacturers distribute their own kernels, for linux, it's almost always linus02:03
bob2aftertaf: either, it seems02:03
harrytuttleDeterminist: depends on the driver. printer drivers and scanner drivers are very far from the kernel02:03
Deterministnjan: so the hardware drivers management system needs to become more modular and be seperated from the kernel, if i understand what you just said correctly.02:03
aftertafbob2:  oh crap :D02:03
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njanDeterminist, as bob2 points out, drivers in iwndows are much more commonly distributed by vendors02:03
bob2Determinist: another interesting point is that linux distributions tend to come out a lot more often than windows releases02:03
njanDeterminist, not really; the linux driver model is great, but because there are fewer poor-quality third-party drivers for it, there's less need for an interface to manage all those drivers.02:03
jeanreany ideas guys?02:03
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bob2Determinist: so it's more feasible to just dsitribute new drivers with a new version of the OS02:03
njanDeterminist, third party drivers in windows are a serious problem, and they're a major cause of crashes and instability.02:04
jeanreeven when I want to change my desktop background the applet crashes02:04
Deterministi never thought about it that way, actually :)02:04
bob2that sounds like your hardware is screwed02:04
bob2Linux is pretty strict about what goes in the kernel02:04
TMMwell, linus is :)02:05
bob2new drivers don't go in unless thy're actually written properly02:05
njanDeterminist, windows 2000 DataCenter does 99.999% uptime vs. 99.9% for windows 2000 advanced server02:05
bob2er, yeah02:05
njanDeterminist, and the prime reason for that is that it doesn't allow unsigned device drivers.02:05
jeanrebob2: I doubt it its only some apps that crash02:05
njanDeterminist, and generally unsigned device drivers are unsigned because:02:05
TMMbob2, that's not exactly true... as linus once put it: "Crappy hardware will have crappy drivers"02:05
Deterministnjan: i see02:05
njan1) they're shit and microsoft rejected them (in which case you don't want them)02:05
njanor02:05
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njan2) they were never submitted for testing in the first place (in which case you don't want them)02:05
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njanthe microsoft driver testing process is actually quite thorough.02:05
seliniumbob2:I got it to work! Thankyou so much for all your help. I really wish i didn't have to install it in the first place.  Your a star!02:05
ColonelKerneljeanre, you need to run memtest, and if you pass you need to check out your CPU temperatures02:06
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nalioth_zZzselinium: what was it?02:06
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harrytuttlenjan: doesn't signing the driver from microsoft cost quite a bit? there could be a decently written driver but no cash to sign it02:06
TMMnjan, the only testing that goes at microsoft for the drivers is that there are no DRM holes when they stamp on their cryptographic seal of approval, it has nothing to do with stability at all02:06
njanharrytuttle, there could, but in practice, most of the unsigned drivers are terrible.02:06
jeanreColonelKernel: its only certain apps I can not open I think my gnome is broken02:06
njanTMM, that's just not correct.02:06
yahalomany plans to update xfce4 in the repos?02:07
ColonelKerneljeanre, ubuntu hoary gnome?02:07
jeanremplayer fails02:07
jeanreand so does k3b02:07
jeanrewarty02:07
jeanrefirefox opens fine02:07
seliniumnalioth_zZz, the man link was fubar, and i was trying to key three commands at once, badly!02:07
ompaulyahalom, are you looking at breezy?02:07
TMMnjan, I've had plenty of trouble with earlier versions of SBlive drivers with microsofts seal of approval, they just plain sucked, frequent crashes on multiple output streams etc. that is not proper testing, the only thing that did work was that the optical out didn't work for drm'd wma.02:08
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yahalomompaul: yes02:08
TMMnjan, perhaps their practice has changed, but this is something I actually experienced with a friend's desktop system02:08
yahalomompaul: is that the latest? cos xffm still isnt. maybe they didnt officially release it.02:08
njanTMM, I'm not talking about multimedia drivers, I'm talking about actual, serious enterprise drivers.02:08
TMMnjan, perhaps... still, serious enterprise systems and microsoft servers is a joke anyway02:09
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njanTMM, and for something like SBlive drivers, a large proportion of the software making the hardware work is userspace software, not the driver - all the sblive gunk that's bundled with the driver. I can't speculate on how well that works either way.02:09
TMMnjan, ms's hot failover isn't all that hot02:09
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njanTMM, not really.02:09
njanTMM, really? I was working in a bank datacenter two weeks ago full of clustered windows servers which would beg to disagree with you. :P02:09
ompaulyahalom, well it will not change before breezy02:09
ColonelKernelmy sblive uses alsa in the kernel02:09
njanTMM, http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/whql/default.mspx <= go, read, be enlightened, know your enemy. :P02:10
TMMnjan, perhaps, if you run only one service per phisical server and you are lucky.. then, perhaps02:10
njanTMM, any serious enterprise only runs one service per physical server; that goes for linux as much as windows.02:10
TMMnjan, but, they only do that on linux because that's what they are used to by using windows :)02:10
njanTMM, that's the entire point of mainframe computing - even with one physical unit, you run one service per operating system image, and mainframe computing precedes linux and windows.02:10
njanTMM, um.. no, not really.02:11
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njanTMM, it's time for my lunch and you're obviously more interested in just ranting about something you don't really know much about rather than actually having an intelligent conversation about another operating system and taking it seriously (and #ubuntu isn't really the place for this anyway), so I'm going to go get some food; have a nice afternoon :)02:12
TMMnjan, come on... having a service put a load of 0.1 on a server and not using it for something else is just plain silly. The only reason for that is because big name software providers don't support their junk if you run multiple applications on one server02:12
njanTMM, if you want to discuss it outside the channel, give me a shout and I'll get back to you later.02:12
TMMwhich is because they can't predict what the other service is doing to the registry mostly :P02:12
TMMbut, I'd like a nice discussion anyway, and I'm not as uninformed as you might think :)02:12
ompaulnjan, of course you can run many images on one server - mainframes brought us that02:13
njan<njan> TMM, that's the entire point of mainframe computing - even with one physical unit, you run one service per operating system image <+ ompaul quite, that's what I meant. :P02:13
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TMMnjan, one more thing for you to think about on your lunch, ok?02:13
jeanreeverything on my machine opens slow02:13
njanTMM, you separate services onto different operating system images for *security* and *stability*, not for convenience.02:13
TMMnjan, explain to me why oracle does not support an oracle install on win32 if it's used for more than just that, but DOES for certified linux distros? :)02:14
njanTMM, most enterprise deployments follow the 2n+X rule, where N is the number of servers you actually need for your app, and N is an arbitrary number of spares, usually 2 for a small cluster, so if you need 3 servers, you actually deploy 8.02:14
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njanTMM, no clue, I'm not a DBA and I've never touched oracle.02:14
ompaulxen or uml <-- are good for that on the x86  version of that - but services are not desktops :)02:14
njanAnyway, greasy chips call. Later!02:14
jeanrelike opening the home icon takes like 30 minutes02:14
TMMnjan, later :)02:14
BasKHi, I'm trying to modify the breezy livecd to include a different kernel. I'm using livecd customization howto (which works) perfectly, but I have a problem. mkinitrd cannot determine the root device, since I'm in a chroot and the fstab is empty. Any suggestions?02:14
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jeanrebrb02:15
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TMManyway, are there any special hoary to breezy upgrade things or a page on the wiki or anything?02:15
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orangeyheya ll!02:15
TMMI know how to do it, but warty to breezy had some special things with the language support stuff02:15
orangeyI'm having trouble with my synaptics touchpad..02:15
orangeyit won't recognize as synaptics, and I keep getting: I'm having a problem with my synaptics touchpad..02:15
athlonwhere can I get libavcodec2 that is needed to install mplayer-custom ?02:15
orangeyI even added the "alps" patch, but to no avail02:15
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|exec|/j2eesdk-1_4_02_2005Q2-linux-ml.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:16
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|exec|what do i need to install jdk?02:17
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orangeyI just get: input: PS/2 Generic Mouse on isa0060/serio402:17
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TMMhmmmm... no breezy-extras yet ;)02:17
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onkarshindeCan anyone tell me top brands in graphics cards?02:18
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dazvidumm what card are you looking at?02:19
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TMM1045 upgraded, 355 newly installed, 79 to remove and 6 not upgraded.02:19
TMMweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellll02:19
TMMthis is going to suck02:19
TMM:)02:19
onkarshindedazvid: For home use normally. Perhaps AGP.02:19
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dazvidSo you dont want anything super hardcore gaming?02:20
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TMMonesandzeros, for easiest installation and not too bad 3d grapics got for an ati 920002:20
onkarshindedazvid: Actually it is my colleague who has asked question and I am not sure of his purpose.02:20
Deterministorangey: ubuntuforums.org, customization for hoary... there's a howto there02:21
TMMonesandzeros, no mucking about with fglrx drivers, ati 9200 installs and works 100% automagically02:21
dazvidah fair enough02:21
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w-the-cI've got a question about fglrx drivers =)02:21
onkarshindeWhat is the opinion about nVidia?02:21
onkarshindeand SiS?02:21
w-the-cI'm having big issues with dri and the custom fglrx kernel module/driver at the website: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html02:22
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TMMonesandzeros, same really. sis is nice for cheap 2d02:22
DeterministGF6600GT for the win :P02:22
TMMonesandzeros, binary only drivers pretty much always lag in X features. although, it is said that nvidias GL implementation is more compete than the one at DRI02:22
Belutzw-the-c: don;t use that02:23
dazvidDeterminist: yeh, but if you aren't gaming, whats the point?02:23
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w-the-cBelutz, ok, is there a better alternative that gives me GL and dri?02:23
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Deterministdazvid: no point, but i do play games :)02:23
Belutzw-the-c: read form here instead http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3249502:23
dazvidI do too ;)02:23
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Deterministdazvid: besides, XFX ship in cool boxes lol02:23
TMMonesandzeros, if you just need pretty 2d, go for matrox, matrox gives VERY nice 2d grapics and acceleration, if you don't game much02:23
dazvidlol02:23
dazvidtoo true02:23
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dazvidDont sell them out in Australia that I have seen :/02:24
dmoyneI see people talking about 3D graphic cards ; surprinsingly whrn installing Ubuntu there are no questions about CRT monitor ; I had to customize manualy xorg.conf to make my 3Dfx works ok !02:24
w-the-cBelutz, thank you very much I'll check that out02:24
Belutzw-the-c: you're very welcome02:24
Deterministdazvid: ummm, i'm sure they do in japan or something, surely you could have one shipped over?02:24
TMMdmoyne, 3dfx is always a pain in the buttocks to set up :) always has been, on any os :)02:24
dazvidYeh, probably02:24
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Deterministdazvid: that, or BFG, either are excellent02:24
pl_icehi02:25
D13GU__hi all! how to install ubuntu on ethernet?02:25
dazvidI have read up on them, they sure rate nicely02:25
TMMonesandzeros, did that answer your question?02:25
Deterministdazvid: too bad i gotta keep winxp for my games :/02:25
onkarshindePretty much.02:25
TMMcrap02:25
TMMI was talking to the wrong guy :002:25
dazvidditto... Determinist if you want to talk games.. join #linux-gamers.net instead :)02:25
pl_iceguys, anyone know how can i read(as view) pdf/ & doc documents without X server ?? ...02:26
TMMsorry onesandzeros , it was intended for onkarshinde02:26
Deterministdazvid: kk02:26
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TMMonkarshinde, all that stuff was intended for you... stupid tab completion02:26
dmoyneNope because it is recognbized by the Ubuntu installer but if your screen has typical default frequencies for horizontal and vertical refreshing not up to what your 3D graphics cards needs noway to get it working !02:26
pipounHox can I use the browser mode of nautilus?02:26
TMMDeterminist, I solved that by buying a playstation 2, much nicer anyway to play on a big ass tv and with a proper controller :)02:26
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razonesdudarhi all02:27
D13GU__hi02:27
D13GU__hi all! how to install ubuntu on ethernet?02:27
DeterministTMM: simple math, big ass TV > 19" LCD $$$02:27
TMMD13GU__, euh.... that's a pretty ambigious question :)02:27
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Whistlerhello02:27
Whistler:)02:27
cuscohello!02:27
D13GU__TMM :)  over local network :)02:28
TMMDeterminist, na'h big ass crt TV isn't very expensive :)02:28
dmoynelast question : has anybody installed his users under LDAP ?02:28
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DeterministTMM: depends on where you're at in the world :)02:28
TMMD13GU__, you'd need some sort of bootdisk, but, what are you trying to accomplish?02:28
othomasD13GU : download the install disk instead of the live cd disk..hoary works well, haven't try'd breezy yet02:28
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Lord_nikonoy LL02:28
TMMDeterminist, I can't imagine that there's any place in the world where a good 19" LCD is cheaper than a big ass CRT tv02:28
TMMDeterminist, :)02:28
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Lord_nikoni am runningbreezy02:29
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TMMI never knew I had this much CRAP installed02:29
GhosthacKhello is somebody here who can help me out? im trying to start fluxbox with gkrellm2 but nothing happens only fluxbox is starting02:29
DeterministTMM: hmm... my 19" LCD cost about 400$. a decent 30" TV here would cost about twice that02:29
harrytuttleD13GU__: there's quite a bit of documentation on doing an intall with pxe boot02:29
WhistlerLord_nikon so what?02:29
D13GU__othomas ok, download?02:29
Lord_nikonbloody americans02:29
TMMDeterminist, nasty, for $400 you'd get a pretty damn nice philips big ass wide-screen tv02:29
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othomasD13GU: yes go to their web page and select downloads02:30
TMMDeterminist, which I did buy along with a PS2 :)02:30
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TMM:P02:30
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dmoyne Lord_nikon : how did you upgrade from hoary to breezy ?02:31
D13GU__othomas, ok02:31
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Lord_nikonu download breezy install02:31
DeterministTMM: that's not bad02:31
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othomasD13GU: the addy is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/02:31
D13GU__the breezy?02:32
dmoyne Lord_nikon : where do you get this and is your Breezy version working fine ?02:32
dbzdeathcan anyone here help me with cups? for some reason cups just does nothing when i try to print a test page... i do get the error  WARNING **: connect = 'epson:/dev/lp0' though02:32
D13GU__othomas, live cd ?02:33
TMMDeterminist, I once installed winxp for one game I just had to buy and play... and I got rather fed up of the crashes that happened after occasionally booting it up for 3 weeks, then I bought a PS2 with that game, and now, I'm happy :)02:33
othomasD13GU: no the install CD, they are listed before the live cd lists02:33
TMMwinXP really seems to deteriorate over time, for no apparent reason... I wonder if they count the number of boots or something02:33
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dbzdeathTMM: its the registry02:34
Lord_nikonit works just fine02:34
D13GU__othomas but my cdrom drive damaged02:34
Lord_nikondmoyne:just go to ubuntu.com and download breezy instead of hoary02:35
DeterministTMM: i dunno, i dont like playing games staring at TVs, a computer is much nicer to me for that purpose02:35
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TMMDeterminist, each to his own I suppose :)02:35
D13GU__i can to create a disk boot, for remote boot?02:35
DeterministTMM: aye02:36
Determinist:)02:36
dmoyne Lord_nikon : you are talking about CD image or upgrade ?02:36
TMMDeterminist, I also found that not using my PC for games got me less distracted with work when I was playing :)02:36
DeterministTMM: lol, that could be a problem tho.02:36
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Whistlerwhy i am experiencing lags when updating breezy?02:37
othomasD13GU: oohhhh...that does create a problem...I don't know of any floppy boot disks to do net install of ubuntu..sorry02:38
Whistlerwith hoary performance was fine02:38
Whistlerand updates are only donloading02:38
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D13GU__:(02:38
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Lord_nikoncd image.u can't upgrade02:38
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Whistler?02:39
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Lord_nikonbut kubuntu is better02:39
robzonhey, anyone knows how to make nautilus burn CDs? it just won't see that I DO have a blank CD in the recorder02:39
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DeterministLord_nikon: i dont like KDE02:39
pipounis it simple to uninstall gnome et install kde after?02:39
Lord_nikoni Do Like KDE02:39
Lord_nikondebian is not too great02:40
DeterministLord_nikon: fine, figure out for me how to play with my network settings... because there seems to be a bug which wont let you do that in kubuntu02:40
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jack-robzon: use gnomebaker, gtoaster, arson, k3b, graveman, anything else02:40
Whistlerpipoun its not hard02:40
Deterministactually, debian is fine if you use a normal DE with it, like Gnome :D02:40
Whistlerbut i reccomend you to use kubuntu istead02:40
Lord_nikonur,right about that,but kubuntu isn't the only KDE available m802:40
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pipounbut I've just installed ubuntu, I spend time configuring some appz, and I dont wan't to do that again02:41
robzonjack-: well, I will, but you know, there are some users that find right-click/burn ISO to CD much easier than opening separate app for this... so it would be nice to get it to work :)02:41
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DeterministLord_nikon: ohh, i've used kde with fedora as well... i just couldnt shake the feeling that it's a half done work which keeps going splat in your face every time you want something done that it isnt really ready to do02:41
Whistlerpipoun so you can install kde, but kubuntu is a better soliution02:41
pipounOr perhaps I'm too dumb. But for example I don't know how to change the wallpaper pour each virtual desktop in gnome02:42
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jack-robzon: mmh..good luck :)02:42
Lord_nikondeterminist:u have a point02:42
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Deterministpipoun: i dont know if you can do that02:42
Entvexwhat is best gnome or kde ???02:42
chicken-manKDE02:42
dazvidEntvex: its preference02:42
pipounDeterminist, that's a pity (for me)02:42
TMMpipoun, you can't in gnome 2.10 anyway, perhaps 2.1202:42
Entvexwhy ?chicken-man02:42
D13GU__how to remove a clock remote sync. ?02:43
robzonjack-: thanks ;)02:43
pipounEntvex, gnome is simpler02:43
jack-entvex: which question is more stupid, 1+1 or 2+2?02:43
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pipounkde is flashier02:43
DeterministLord_nikon: that, and the fact that there really isnt any sense of general direction when it comes to KDE. not to mention it takes 2 years to memorize which Kblah does what you need lol02:43
chicken-manEntvex, i think it looks better02:43
bimberipipoun: you can have both installed, or is space an issue?02:43
onkarshindeEntvex: It is just matter of choice.02:43
Entvexli think gnome looks cool ?02:43
jack-kde is 10x more bloated02:43
jack-but both are "pretty"02:43
Deterministyeah, it's prettier tho, i'll give it that.02:43
onkarshindeEntvex: KDE resembles more to Windows02:44
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pipounbimberi, no space is not an issue02:44
TMMmeh, there's nothing wrong with KDE02:44
Lord_nikonubuntu's multimedia is bolocs\02:44
TMMi've used it quite happely for years02:44
after8!start a desktop war02:44
ubotufvwm is much better than xfce!02:44
Deterministerm, i dont like kde. :P02:44
Lord_nikonTMM:i agree02:44
onkarshindeTMM: I sometimes think that KDE has too many menus/ programs which may frighten new user.02:44
bimberipipoun: you can install the kubuntu-desktop package then02:44
TMMsince 3.0 anyway, gnome 1.4 before that and now back to gnome since hoary02:44
jack-twm is much better than fluxbox!02:44
Entvexi have only use gnome 1 try kde ons and kde i feel kde was a mess02:44
pipounbimberi, but if I install KDE too, won't it be affected by the soft of gnome?02:44
Lord_nikonKDE is not for new users02:44
jack-sawfish rocks the socks of enlightenment!02:45
jack-(d'oh!)02:45
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Entvexdo kde have more skins ?02:45
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DeterministLord_nikon: i'm not that much of a novice, but with kde i find myself having to dig through loads of menus to find stuff and there's too many things unimplemented. sometimes i think they went ahead too fast with concern of how it looks rather than what it's supposed to function like02:46
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TMMonkarshinde, perhaps, but, on the other hand, gnome's method of not exposing everything to the user but through the config-editor leaves a lot to be desired too... it's both not ideal02:46
pipounDeterminist, but si gnome les configurable?02:46
pipoun*is02:46
Lord_nikonDeterminist:indeed02:46
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after8reiki_work> XP is better than Silicon Graphics02:46
Deterministpipoun: gnome is fine for whatever uses you have, as long as you can accept a certain amount of defaults.02:47
Lord_nikonAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH BILLY GATES02:47
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after8Determinist> there are defaults, i agree.....02:47
bimberipipoun: yes, to some extent, i get some extra files put in interesting places sometimes but it's been OK otherwise02:47
TMMafter8, ghehehe... well, XP's interface is a lot better than 4dwm :)02:47
reiki_workafter8: did I ask?02:47
after8reiki_work> nope ;) HSZSN02:47
Determinist???02:48
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reiki_workafter8: Dai Ko Myo02:48
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TMMbut then again, so is fvwm or pretty much anything but twm, which actually is able to suck even more then 4dwm, which is quite a feat really02:48
Lord_nikondo all of u lads still run windows02:48
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jack-i never did02:48
AnswerHello W0rld02:48
jack-hello user02:48
reiki_workLord_nikon: I haven't booted to windows in over 4 weeks now02:48
Lord_nikongreat02:48
onkarshindeLord_nikon: I have to, at work.02:48
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TMMnope, not since win95 OSR 2 (well, except for that small thing with the XP for the game)02:48
onkarshindeAnswer: Hello02:48
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after8reiki_work> what level are you at? i'm lev202:49
AnswerQuestion: When I unplug my laptop, the battery meter says "System is running on ac power, no battery present"  but it is clearly running on the battery and not ac power ?02:49
reiki_workafter8: master/teacher02:49
TMMsupported a lot of 98-xp systems for friends and relatives though, untill hoary, when I moved pretty much everyone over02:49
DeterministAnswer: your laptop is drunk.02:49
after8reiki_work> nice one man... one day ;)02:49
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TMMAnswer, compaq laptop is it? :)02:50
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Deterministgonna have shipit ship over afew breezy CDs... the hoary ones i got went away like hot buns02:50
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AnswerTMM: IT is a Dell Inspiron 4150 laptop02:50
QuestionAnswer, then I wouldn't know02:50
reiki_workafter8: stay with it... I did treatments at an HIV clinic every Friday (burned a vacation day from regular job each time) for 4 months. After 4 months there was a clinically documentable difference in teh patients that received treatments. Made me feel good. :)02:50
after8Determinist> true its a bit heavy n ressources but my cranky laptop manages oK. Dell latitude PIII w/ 256 mb02:50
AnswerQuestion: Pretend I said "Yes, it's a compaq laptop"02:50
Lord_nikonriiiiiiiiiight02:51
QuestionAnswer, but, I get it too sometimes with my compaq, need to reload the battery module then, rmmod battery && modprobe battery02:51
Deterministafter8: i found XFCE to be nicest on my laptop, just kinda like gnome better.02:51
QuestionAnswer, that usually does the trick02:51
AnswerQuestion:  which is the battery module to reload?02:51
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after8reiki_work> nice... that's dedication..... wouldlike to do more of that...02:51
Lord_nikonany one know of a good media player02:51
Answerxmms02:51
after8Determinist> long live personal preferences :D02:51
Answer!xmms02:51
ubotuI heard xmms is to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)02:51
reiki_workif I haven't received my CDs from shipit yet... is there a chance I'll just get Breezy CDs instead if the delay is that long?02:52
Deterministafter8: amen mate :)02:52
Lord_nikonexcept for xmms02:52
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after8mate... hehe02:52
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TMMAnswer, type "sudo rmmod battery && sudo modprobe battery" in a terminal window02:52
AnswerLord_nikon:  rythmbox02:52
Deterministafter8: at least we get to have a choice.02:52
Stalwartdoes breezy-multiverse has multiverse-security?02:52
TMMAnswer, then wait a bit untill the battery monitor adjusts itself :)02:52
after8Determinist> instead of having green vs blue..... ;)02:52
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Deterministafter8: you forgot silver and classic...02:52
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da_bon_bonreiki_work: no.. i got my warty cds after hoary was released, and got my hoary cds yesterday02:53
TMMafter8, that's a stupid question, blue is CLEARLY better than green02:53
Stalwart:DDDDDDDDD02:53
reiki_workda_bon_bon: hmmm....02:53
after8Determinist> hehe, i obfuscated them to the back of my hard drive/mind02:53
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reiki_work:)02:53
TMMafter8, blue is so much more userfriendly and less bloated then green02:53
AnswerTMM: I typed those commands and there was no output and the battery meter didnt change at all ?02:53
Deterministafter8: i wish i could obfuscate the entire damned thing off of my harddrive and get it over with.02:53
Gorgonzolaif i ordered cds in shipit about a month ago.. which have apparently already been sent, when breezy is released will i receive some of those too, or will i have to re-order?02:53
TMMAnswer, you are not supposed to get output, just wait a little bit02:53
Stalwartdoes breezy-multiverse has multiverse-security?? =(02:53
after8Determinist> liberation is a format c:\02:54
after8Stalwart> i don't know... checking...02:54
TMMAnswer, and past the LAST LINE ONLY of the output of dmesg|tail here02:54
DeterministGorgonzola: i suppose that since breezy isnt out yet, you wont get the CDs before it's out lol02:54
reiki_workoops... I typed ubuntu.org instead of Ubuntu.com and got a site toally unrelated to the Ubuntu I was expecting :)02:54
AnswerTMM: But then I wont get warned about #flood and pastebin hhehehe02:54
Stalwartreiki, ubuntu.com = ubuntulinux.org != ubuntu.org02:54
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TMMAnswer, not if you only put in one line02:54
seliniumOK then, I have installed wine via cvs, how would I remove it?02:54
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Deterministreiki_work: isnt it annoying how those "search" sites buy domains?02:54
after8Stalwart> breezy-security yep... main restricted uni multi02:55
TMMAnswer, LAST LINE ONLY :) get it? ;)02:55
Stalwartafter8, thank you02:55
reiki_workDeterminist: indeed02:55
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imnesI've got a bug in Evolution - Gnome date+time integration, should I report it to the ubuntu team or straight to evolution?02:55
after8hehe s'ok. i just used all the same repos from hoary but changed them to breezy02:55
GorgonzolaDeterminist, what i mean is, once you are in the system, do you automatically receive each new major release?02:55
AnswerTMM: the second to last line says ACPI: [BAT0]  present,  the last line sayd [BAT1]  absent02:55
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Deterministat least they all look like shite so you can distinguish them from the actual sites you need to get to lol02:55
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Gorgonzolaoh yeh i hate those damn sites too02:55
DeterministGorgonzola: dont think so mate02:56
Gorgonzoladoesn't matter, i'll download it anyway (much faster than waiting a month for post!)02:56
Gorgonzolawould be nice to have some 'proper' cds though :)02:56
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pybeGorgonzola: where are you?02:56
DeterministGorgonzola: aye, gonna have afew sent over, but the burned CD should do for now02:56
TMMAnswer, I get that too sometimes, nothing much that you can do but chech the linux acpi projects (acpi.sf.net) webpage and hope that there's a fixed DSDT for you laptop... or read the docs on fixing it yourself02:56
Gorgonzolapybe, Australia02:57
Entvexim gogin to install ubumtu agen Hmm do ubuntu take usb auto ?02:57
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TMMAnswer, rebooting without the ac adapter plugged in seems to cure it for my laptop though02:57
Gorgonzolait says cds were sent to me on 8/8/2005 .... it's now 15/9/2005, no sign yet02:57
pybeGorgonzola: paypal me the postage and I can send you a 5.04 cd set02:57
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TMMAnswer, even if I plug it back in later... but it's somewhat sub-optimal02:57
T-Onefellas, I need a hand with a minimal box install..02:57
Entvexim gogin to install ubumtu agen Hmm do ubuntu take usb auto ?02:57
Gorgonzolapybe, i dont have a paypal account02:57
AnswerTMM: It does not hinder the functionality other than I don't know when the battery will run out.  It's good in some ways since the screen doesnt darken02:57
pybeGorgonzola: nm02:57
Entvexdo ubuntu take usb auto ?02:58
T-One...specificall I need help with vncserver and XDMCP02:58
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TMMAnswer, well, that's the answer then :) if you care about it, check acpi.sf.net, if you don't you can either boot without ac plugged in (might work) or just ignore it completly then :)02:58
Gorgonzolaone more question... once i d/l the breezy disc, what's the best way to update from Hoary? do you just select "upgrade" or something from the install menu?02:58
SmegzorI have a simple? problem.  I have a dual booting pc with ubuntu first then windows xp in a 2nd partition.  I went through the procedure to restore the grub boot loader and now when I boot, all I get is the grub prompt.  I am able to boot into ubuntu by manually typing the lines from grub's menu.lst.  Now that I am in ubuntu.  How can I fix my boot problem?02:58
DeterministT-One: wanna have gdm over VNC?02:58
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TMMAnswer, I choose for the last option, I know how much time I have on a battery :)02:58
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T-Onethat's EXACTLY what I'm tryin to do02:59
Entvexdo ubuntu take usb auto ?02:59
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DeterministT-One: you're not the first :) gimme a sec, i'll get you a link02:59
T-Oneeither that, or just push XFCE4 session back over X11 forwarding (ssh)02:59
GorgonzolaEntvex, what do you mean?02:59
GorgonzolaEntvex, do you mean will it detect a USB device automatically?02:59
DeterministT-One: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4294102:59
AnswerTMM: Is there any command line battery level tool ?02:59
EntvexGorgonzola if i have a usb disk can ubuntu take it auto ?02:59
T-Oneokay, here's the thing: that guide assumes you had Gnome installed (to change the xdcmp setting)03:00
TMMAnswer, that won't work either, the problem is with the DSDT of your bios, not with gnome, all tools will give the same result03:00
DeterministEntvex: it should be able to recognize it, yes. worst case scenario you'd have to mount it03:00
T-OneI'm using a "server" install03:00
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TMMT-One, consider using NX instead of vncserver, VNC pretty much sucks compared to NX03:00
GorgonzolaEntvex, should do as Determinist  said03:00
T-Onereally?03:00
TMMT-One, yes, really :) google for freenx03:01
EntvexThx!03:01
DeterministTMM: freenx rocks :D03:01
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erosafter inatallation , " sudo apt-get install beep-media-player totem-xine w32codecs gstreamer0.8-plugins"toetm player works but bmp doesn't work. why and what's the problom?03:01
T-Onecan I tunnel that over SSH?03:01
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TMMT-One, I haven't used VNC ever since I discovered freeNX, only to connect to less-fortunate systems :)03:01
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TMMT-One, does that automagicallty03:02
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Lord_nikonbloody americans03:02
DeterministTMM: any idea how to change the port freenx server listens to from 22 to 443 tho?03:02
DeterministLord_nikon: what they done now? lol03:02
T-Oneis there a Windows client needed?03:02
Lord_nikonThey have T1 at low prices03:02
TMMDeterminist, some SSH helper config thing... but I think you'd need to change the port of all your SSH traffic then, wouldn't know03:02
GorgonzolaDeterminist, what haven't they done... hehe :)03:02
DeterministT-One: there are win32, linux and mac OSX clients for NX03:02
TMMT-One, if you want to use it on windows, then yes :)03:02
TMMT-One, just as with VNC :P03:03
DeterministGorgonzola: lol03:03
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Smegzor*bump* I need a little help getting my hands Grubby :) Just a shove in the right direction.  I need to rebuild my grub boot loader.03:03
T-Oneyeah, I'm on a Win box behind a corporate firewall...only way to get in my home box is SSH03:03
DeterministT-One: the admin at your place hasnt blocked port 22?03:03
TMMT-One, then NX is pretty much ideal for you03:03
T-Onethey have, but not 443, so I'm port-forwarding at my home router03:04
TMMT-One, zero set up for tunnels etc, ssh support build right into the client, and amazing compression03:04
Entvexcan you play ut2004 on ubuntu ??????????03:04
Entvex:)03:04
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DigisEntvex, yes03:04
bur[n] eranyone know why gnome-panel always wants to access my keyring for old evolution mail accounts??  I've removed them from evolution, yet the panel still prompts me for their passwords on every login  :(03:04
TMMhmm... halfway through setting up the packages for breezy.... and still no nasty surprises... that's good :)03:04
EntvexDigis :) nice03:04
cafuegoBut if you have an ATI video card, you may not want to.03:05
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Digisyup, ATI sucks ass in linux03:05
TMMcafuego, hey, didn't you used to hang out in #debian? :)03:05
T-Oneokay, now: here's what I'm trying to do:03:05
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Whistleranybody managed to get ati radeon drives to run on breezy?03:05
cafuegoTMM: Still do, eloped to Ubuntu (for the desktop)03:05
T-Onethe server is headless, so I don't need X on the primary display, only on remote sessions...03:05
Digisbut it is possible to play ut2004, even with ATI, in linux03:05
TMMcafuego, same here :)03:05
Lord_nikonSmegzor:i am going to pm u03:06
EntvexDigis i got a nvidia ? is ok ?03:06
Smegzorthanks03:06
Whistleranybody got luck with breezy+ati?03:06
DigisEntvex, its perfect :)03:06
Lord_nikonummm03:06
T-Onewhisler: that's another problem I have as well...03:07
TMMT-One, how often do I need to shout :"NX" at your ass? :) it'll manage creation and destruction of login sessions, detachment/attachment03:07
Smegzori'm a windows user :O and I just want to be sure that I'm doing the right thing.. so I don't kill my chances of rebooting :)03:07
TMMT-One, you want freeNX03:07
T-OneTMM: OKAY, I get it!03:07
TMMT-One, feel it, learn it, love it :P03:07
EntvexDigis :) nice03:07
T-Oneapt-getting now...03:07
Lord_nikonAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH BILLLY GATES03:07
Deterministi gotta admit, part of the joy about linux is the way you can always upgrade and update the stuff you use even if only for the idiotic joy of seeing a greater version number. not sure if that's the stuff an OS meant for an avrage user should be made of :)03:07
Entvexbrb03:07
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TMMT-One, you'll like it, trust me :)03:08
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Lord_nikonSmegzor:TAKE BILLY GATES'S OS OFF UR SYSTEm03:08
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Smegzorheh  but I make a living from fixing his bugs03:08
TMMLord_nikon, don't shout stuff like that :) It's soooo childish03:08
TMMSmegzor, you mean "working around them" since there is no way you can fix them03:09
Lord_nikonindeed03:09
Smegzorprecisely03:09
after8Determinist> i agree on the upgrade obsession :D03:09
TMMSmegzor, linux admins fix problems, windows admins work around them ;)03:09
bimberiT-One: But just in case you still want to use intangible's setup (from the forums), edit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf to enable xdmcp :)03:09
TMMo dear...03:09
TMMlocales screwed up03:09
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TMMagain03:09
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TMMseems to be a reoccuring theme with ubuntu upgrades...03:10
deFryskdpkg-reconfigure locales03:10
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TMMit's still upgrading the packages03:10
cafuegoDeterminist: Well, an average user doesn't HAVE to upgrade.03:10
Smegzorwell all I need is someone to say, rebuild your grub.. run this command..  or read this howto.  I have run through the official way to do it twice with no joy.03:10
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deFryskTMM, from hoary/breezy ?03:10
T-Onebig problem with freenx...I just happen to be behind an HTTPS proxy...03:10
cafuegoDeterminist: My slackware 3.0 box is still running just fine & dandy.03:10
TMMdeFrysk, getting a whole lot of perl errors because of it, seems rather harmless, and yes, hoary->breezy03:10
after8TMM> breezy did that for me yesterday03:10
holy_cowwhat is audio output on ubuntu? /dev/dsp?  /dev/dsp1?03:10
after8TMM> itll be ok once it gets to the locales package ;)03:11
deFryskTMM, not to worry, will be fixed during upgrade03:11
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TMMI've once had an upgrade fail because perl couldn't load ANY locales or something... don't know the details anymore, but I had to manually download a locales deb and install it using some arcane method03:11
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after8TMM> installShield ? :D03:12
T-Onewhat's the default command to start an XFCE session?03:12
TMMbut I think that was debian sid...03:12
bur[n] erT-One: pick it from gdm ;)03:12
Deterministcafuego: i suppose not03:12
deFryskT-One, stratxfce403:12
deFrysksartxfce403:12
T-OneI can start GDM over freeNX?03:12
deFryskstartxfce403:12
TMMT-One, corkscrew :)03:12
deFryskgeez :s03:12
yahalomlol03:13
TMMT-One, no, you log into the system and choose the session from the nx client, not GDM03:13
T-Onelighten up...I'm used to KDE/Gnome.03:13
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deFrysknow u know why i use gnome ;p03:13
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Lord_nikonuse thunderbird03:13
jeanreanyone here still on warty03:13
deFryskits easyer to spell03:13
Smegzorbrb  looking for howto's or any info on grub..03:13
TMMdeFrysk, not to mention pronounce :)03:14
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pybeSmegzor: man grub03:14
deFryskTMM, not to mention indeed :D03:14
avalosthmm, so whats the word on breezy preview?03:14
bur[n] erfor the record, it's guh-nome03:14
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jeanrecause I can not find w32codecs in the repositry03:14
Lord_nikonSmegzor:go to system,administrator,boot03:14
pybeSmegzor: www.google.com search for grub howto03:14
bimberiavalost: quite good today, who knows tomorrow03:14
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yahalomavalost: good03:14
bur[n] erjeanre: get hoary? :)03:14
TMMT-One, and, with NX there's really no reason why you wouldn't use GNOME or KDE, client side caching makes even having a pretty wallpaper doable :)03:14
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avalostany major differences from hoary?03:15
T-Oneyeah, big prob with the freenx client. It can't traverse my HTTP proxy...03:15
TMMT-One, doable being "no slowdown" :)03:15
TMMT-One, corkscrew03:15
deFryskavalost, most things are newer03:15
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avalostdeFrysk: right on, hows gnome *.12?03:15
deFryskavalente, fine03:15
Smegzorthanks03:15
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deFryskhappy03:15
TMMdeFrysk, heheh, locales are indeed automagically fixed03:16
jeanrebur[n] er: I can not its my dev machine03:16
bur[n] e1fine except for prompting for passwords on every boot :\03:16
DeterministTMM: how do you run the NX client once it has been installed from a .deb? it doesnt appear to have any executable03:16
avalostwhats the projected release date, 13th?03:16
deFryskavalente, correct , also see /topic03:16
bur[n] e1!tell jeanre about repositories03:16
T-OneTMM...thanks a heap...03:16
TMMDeterminist, it's somewhere in /usr/NX03:16
TMMT-One, that wasn't helpful? :(03:16
bimberiubotu tell avalost about breezy03:16
deFryskavalost, I mean03:16
DeterministTMM: k03:16
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avalostright on03:16
icc14hello everyone03:16
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deFryskhello someone03:17
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icc14LOL03:17
avalostthanks bimberi03:17
bimberiavalost: yw :)03:17
TMMT-One, corkscrew should allow you to tunnel SSH traffic over HTTP, and thus NX as well, since it all travels over SSH03:17
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T-Onedoes it really matter, since I already have Putty?03:17
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Smegzorcan't find system/administrator/boot in my desktop menu.  its the boot part I didn't find.  umm..03:18
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TMMT-One, if putty works without corkscrew magic, then so will the nx client. putty can't tunnel over a http proxy either03:18
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T-OneTMM: Umm...yes it can. That's how I've BEEN using it for a year now...03:18
TMMT-One, socks proxy is it?03:18
T-Onenope. HTTP (connect)03:19
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TMM?03:19
TMMhmmm03:19
Smegzorwhere in the ubuntu gnome desktop will I find a spot to edit the boot?03:19
|apokryp|apokry03:19
TMMfor NX you'd have to use corkscrew then...03:19
T-Onewhat ports do I need to forward?03:19
DeterministTMM: what nx client are you using mate? the one from nomachine?03:19
TMMDeterminist, yes03:19
TMMDeterminist, but on linux, haven't used the win32 version much03:19
deFryskSmegzor, edit the boot ?03:20
reiki_workwow... I just now learned about edubuntu. I've emailed my wife the link. She's a teacher/media specialist and on the school's technology team. edubuntu is very interesting.03:20
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DeterministTMM: did you download the .deb or using synaptic?03:20
TMMDeterminist, the devb03:20
icc14is there a built-in cedega in ubuntu??03:20
holy_cowanyone here setup mythtv on ubuntu successfully with sound?03:20
jdermerhey guys03:20
Smegzoryes.  I currently can't boot unless I do a lot of typing03:20
TMMicc14, you have to pay for cedega03:20
jdermeri got two question03:20
DeterministTMM: doesnt work then, keep spitting out errors about missing libs etc03:20
Smegzorsomething is broken in my grub03:20
jdermerhow come sometimes when i open apps in ubuntu they open minimized03:20
deFryskSmegzor, you mean autologin ?03:20
Entvexdo som one in here use cedega ??03:20
dazvidTMM: you can also get a free version03:20
dazvidcvscedega I believe03:20
Smegzorif I reboot, I get GRUB>03:20
jdermeralso, i just added an extra hard drive to my pc... how do i mount it in ubuntu03:20
Lord_nikongo to storage media03:21
TMMDeterminist, try this03:21
Entvexdo som one in here use cedega ??? :) li need to ask03:21
yahalomor just ask for those who paid for cedega and dont care to share it03:21
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dazvidEntvex: perhaps #cedega ?03:21
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TMMDeterminist, LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/NX/lib /usr/NX/bin/<whatever the binary is called>03:21
deFryskSmegzor, sudo nano -w /boot/grub/menu.lst03:21
SmegzorI have a menu.lst but it is not being used for some reason.03:21
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reiki_workjdermer: I think AddingAHardDrive is in the wiki... I could swear I saw it yesterday while browsing around03:21
deFryskSmegzor, i see03:21
icc14is there a free cedega??03:21
TMMdazvid, pretty useless :)03:21
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T-Onelooks like NX connect port is 4000 or 40001. I'll brb03:21
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Smegzormy menu.lst is at that location03:21
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deFryskyes03:22
TMMicc14, not one that is any good, you'd be better off using normal wine in that case, they have been making heaps of progress with directX work03:22
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Smegzorthe lst itself is correct.  I am unsure why/how to make it get used at boot time03:22
icc14what wine can you suggest??03:22
Smegzorwindows xp broke it03:22
deFryskSmegzor, did you install grub in mbr ?03:22
jeanrebur[n] er: I use warty03:23
Lord_nikonsodding xp03:23
jeanre:)(03:23
apokryphos!grub03:23
ubotugrub is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows03:23
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deFryskSmegzor, you have to reinstall grub03:23
SnusmumrikenAnyone who can help me? When I istalled Ubuntu and run it it can't load gdm.. :S03:23
deFryskapokryphos, thanks :)03:23
Smegzori followed the instructions in that 2nd url twice03:23
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apokryphosSnusmumriken: what's the error message?03:23
bytefooyo, anyone know why breezy would not detect a network card but hoary would?03:23
Smegzoryes deFrysk..  how?03:23
TMMicc14, the one from winehq.com03:23
apokryphosSmegzor: check the latter link provided by ubotu03:24
jdermerreiki_work, i dont see it in the wiki'03:24
icc14hello anyone can give me a good wine and a site to download it??03:24
icc14TNX03:24
apokryphos!wine03:24
Bateau_i got this extra buttons on my mouse. how can i get them to be back- and forward-history?03:24
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deFryskSmegzor, you are in ubuntu now ?03:24
reiki_workjdermer: I'm trying to find it again too...03:24
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apokryphosubotu: tell icc14 about wine03:24
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Whistleri just dowloaded a bunch of xorg updates, will ati drivers work on breezy now?03:24
SnusmumrikenIt wasnt really a error message, a menu poped up with some strange symbols and told me that there was some kind of error and that gdm would be inactivated03:24
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Smegzoryes.  I wrote down what is in menu.lst and typed it at the GRUB> prompt :)03:25
apokryphosSnusmumriken: if we don't know the error then we can't really help03:25
Lord_nikonyes yes03:25
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Smegzorthis is the 2nd time I have installed Windows as a 2nd OS.  The last one XP 64 was pants and had to go.03:25
deFryskmenu.list does not go in the GRUB> prompt03:25
apokryphosSmegzor: have you checked that link I said?03:26
reiki_workjdermer: if nothing else, this should get you in the right direction...  http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/4232/1/03:26
SmegzorI know, but typing what it contains = booting into linux :)03:26
Snusmumrikenk.. Guess i have to reinstall again then..03:26
Smegzordoing that now.03:26
deFryskSmegzor, where is your / ?03:26
Smegzorthe 2nd url didn't help03:26
apokryphosSnusmumriken: or you could just get the error for us03:26
chiisaiMy computer has a total of 1.5 GB RAM, and BIOS reports this correctly. However, top says I have "906660k total" memory, and p2p/cedega still says I got 512 MB (as I just put in the additional 1 GB). Err, what's wrong?03:26
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apokryphosSnusmumriken: when you're at the command prompt have you tried typing "startx"?03:27
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othomassmegzor: try editing the list and then running grub while in linux..then reboot and see if it picks up the list03:27
chiisaioh, now p2p/cedega reports 1024 MB, too.03:27
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Smegzorum..  hda1  (hd0,0)03:27
deFryskcorrect03:27
lastnodehow can i get ubuntu to suspend when i close my notebook?03:27
deFryskso you did all that ?03:28
SnusmumrikenIt only popped up once and i didn't memorize it.. but it was some x-server error..03:28
lastnodei mean when i fold it03:28
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deFryskwierd03:28
Smegzorthe list is correct.  nothing to change there.03:28
apokryphosSnusmumriken: try typing startx next time, and check what the error is03:28
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deFryskSmegzor, so your menu.lst corresponds with uname -r ?03:28
Smegzorgoing to backup my menu.lst :)03:28
othomassmegzor, just change a couple of char. then put them back so grub thinks the list has changed03:28
Smegzorok03:29
lastnodeanyone? suspending on laptop close?03:29
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AnswerQuestion: How do I add proftpd to my init.d so it will run on startup ?03:29
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othomasyou have to manually run grub before you reboot03:29
Smegzorwhat us uname -r?  sorry <-- windows idiot here03:29
clem_yeatslastnode : no, works fine for me.03:29
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deFryskSmegzor, it tells you what kernelversion you are running03:29
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andaluciahowdy03:29
apokryphoshi there03:29
clem_yeatsSmegzor : it gives you the version number of your linux kernel03:29
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andaluciaI need from you guys the GDM theme that is used in 5.10 please03:30
andaluciacan someone tar it and send it to me please ?03:30
_xxx_[17:29:32]  _xxx_: fuck !03:30
_xxx_[17:29:50]  _xxx_: you shit in my ass03:30
lastnodeclem_yeats, it goes to a blank screen with a blinking "_"03:30
Snusmumrikennow i got the pop up again.. It's in swedish but i will try to translate..03:30
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lastnodeand just wont wake up from there03:30
_xxx_russia03:30
Smegzorthey match03:30
_xxx_i rusia03:30
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clem_yeatslastnode : I get that as well, but it comes back to X after a sec or 2..03:30
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deFryskSmegzor, then do what othomas suggested03:31
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bimberitks apokryphos, just about to !ops03:31
Smegzorroger03:31
Gobblalol03:31
lastnodeclem_yeats, maybe i should just wait?03:31
lastnodebut ive already tried for ages03:31
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lastnodelol03:32
clem_yeatslol03:32
lastnodewho was that?03:32
Snusmumriken"I can't start the x-server (your graphic <something>). probabli it isn't configured right. do you wanna se the data from the x-server to analyze the problem_03:32
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lastnode:D03:32
AnswerQuestion: How do I add proftpd to my init.d so it will run on startup ?03:32
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deFryskif i could Answer that question Answer I would Answer it03:33
clem_yeatsAnswer : doesn't apt take care of that when you install proftpd ?03:33
Smegzorok edited.  and I just run grub by itself?  doing that now..  being probed :O03:33
pybe-lappyAnswer: doesnt it do that anyway?03:33
Whistleri just dowloaded a bunch of xorg updates, will ati drivers work on breezy now?03:33
SnusmumrikenWhen i the data i just get some info about the kernel03:33
pybe-lappyAnswer: did you install through apt?03:33
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Answerapt-get does not prompt to add to the init.d  on reinstall03:33
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Answerapt-get only prompts to add to the init.d on the first install (which was many moons ago)03:34
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Lord_nikonWhisler:mine doesn't work yet03:34
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cuscoAnswer: apt-get remove --purge proftpd03:34
cuscothen reinstall it03:34
cuscoit will prompt again03:34
Answerahhh03:34
cuscoIm sure there is a easyer way to just add it to the init.d tho03:34
Answercusco: Thanks  "apt-get remove --purge proftpd"03:35
clem_yeatsAnswer : you need to have a SSR script in init.d and a link to it in your rc2.d folder (you're running runlevel 2 right ?)03:35
after8u can use update-rc.d03:35
cuscoAnswer: you're welcome03:35
Smegzoryay!  this looks promising..  ran update-grub.  rebooting now.  brb (I hope)03:35
Answerclem_yeats: everything you just said is over my head.  I think i'll try --purge and reinstall03:35
clem_yeatsAnswer : otherwise you can use update-rc.d as after8 mentioned.03:35
clem_yeatsyes, or reinstall...03:36
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Answerafter8 clem_yeats:  Tell me more about update-rc.d03:36
clem_yeatsman it03:36
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clem_yeatsor read the debian reference and FAQ, it covers the Debian init procedure very well.03:36
after8sudo update-rc.d proftpd defaults..... but man to be more informed ;)03:36
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chipmunkhi.03:36
lastnode_btw03:37
lastnode_this nick is not regged03:37
chipmunkis there a program for this ubuntu to view webcams from yahoo messenger?03:37
lastnode_and it didnt push me to #ubuntu-unregged03:37
lastnode_:s03:37
Snusmumrikenwhen i type startx i det this : XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on x server":0.0" after 0 requests (oknown processed) with 0 events remaining.03:37
apokryphoslastnode_: channel mode is not set to +r currently, yes.03:37
lastnode_oh :)03:37
lastnode_my bad03:37
lastnode_apokryphos, any idea why my notebook wont wake up from suspend?03:37
chipmunkis there?please help..03:37
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apokryphoslastnode_: nope, sorry.03:38
Lord_nikonno03:38
after8lastnode> they do that sometimes, quite annoying...03:38
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lastnode_after8, any fixes03:38
lastnode_?03:38
chipmunkproblem=> program that can view webcam from yahoo messenger, is there please?help03:38
pybe-lappychipmunk: im pretty sure not03:39
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Snusmumrikenapokryphos can u help me?03:39
apokryphosSnusmumriken: with?03:39
after8chipmunk> its gonna happen soonish with gaim i think..... cutting edge for now though03:39
bur[n] erbah... gnome-panel is crap03:39
after8or was it aMSN ?03:39
chipmunkwat do u mean pybe-lapp?03:39
chipmunkoh =(03:39
after8bur[n] er> i have to agree...03:40
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othomasburner: install KDE..and KDM..problem solved..:)03:40
wordyfellowgreetings all03:40
bur[n] erheh... that's worse othomas ;)03:40
Smegzor:(  no joy.  It still stops at the GRUB> prompt03:40
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SnusmumrikenXOI: fatal IO erreor 104 (connection reset by peer) on x server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0known processed= with 0 events remaining03:40
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othomaslol burner03:40
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apokryphosSnusmumriken: this is on startx?03:41
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Snusmumrikenyep03:41
topyliahh. gotta love putty03:41
after8Smegzor> what does?03:41
Smegzormaybe if I bang my head on a brick wall it will work? :)03:41
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topylicertainly03:41
lastnode_after8, sorry to ask again but - know any fixes for the notebook problem?03:41
SmegzorI can't boot my pc automatically atm.  I have to get typing at the grub prompt03:41
wordyfellowI just did a fresh installl of Ubuntu.  Does anyone know if there is a default password for the root account?03:41
thenukewordyfellow: nope03:41
thenukewordyfellow: use sudo03:41
topylinobody knows03:42
lastnode_wordyfellow, it's your pass03:42
bur[n] er!tell wordyfellow about sudo03:42
lastnode_use sudo -s03:42
lastnode_and your pass03:42
apokryphosSnusmumriken: that's not really enough infos. Could you pastebin anything else you get?03:42
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BlazintHi all, adobe acrobat reader 7.0 crashes in breezy... any clue to fix this?03:42
othomassmegzor..wb..sorry, i guess reinstall is all that is left03:42
thenukelastnode_: it is not his pass. there is no pass for root account03:42
apokryphosSnusmumriken: have you tried configuring your X?03:42
bimberiasking that question is instant popularity :)03:42
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bur[n] erBlazint: use evnice?03:42
lastnode_thenuke, isnt it his user account password?03:42
sriautokkk03:42
bur[n] erBlazint: evince even03:42
iqbalaanyone know how to make the laptop button work to switch between external and internal monitor?03:42
bob2Blazint: complain to Adobe03:42
Smegzor:O  not reinstalling the whole OS.  I hope you mean grub?03:42
bob2iqbala: it's not simple03:43
deFryskevince is nice :)03:43
thenukelastnode_: root account is disabled in ubuntu.  sudo uses users password03:43
bur[n] erlastnode_: no... there is no root password03:43
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othomassmeghzor..YES, just grub03:43
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thenukelastnode_: and sudo is different thing than a root account03:43
iqbalabob2 i am listening03:43
bob2lastnode_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:43
lastnode_yeah sorry semantic error03:43
sriautohgai03:43
bob2iqbala: no, it's really not simple03:43
Blazintok. i will try evince . but it's a bit slow on my machine03:43
Snusmumrikenhmm.. it also said: fatal server error: no screens found03:43
Smegzor:)  brb  off to do that03:43
bob2iqbala: if you're not a kernel hacker...03:43
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lastnode_what i meant was that you can do root@hostname$: with sudo -s03:43
lastnode_?03:43
lastnode_cant you?03:43
iqbalaany link or idea03:43
apokryphosSnusmumriken: try reconfiguring your X; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:43
sorush20has anyone here managed to fix the thunderbird default user access problem..03:43
topylilastnode_: sure03:44
iqbalaxmodemap or something to use against the keycode?03:44
bur[n] ersorush20: killall mozilla-thunderbird and start it again03:44
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bob2lastnode_: yes...03:44
pybeexit03:44
pybeha ha03:44
deFrysk /03:44
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Snusmumrikenit asks for a password03:45
pybe-lappyheh I know to many things happening03:45
Smegzorum..  where does x-chat keep logs of this chat?03:45
deFryskuse username passwd03:45
apokryphosSnusmumriken: well, it is a command requiring root perms, hence it's prefixed with sudo03:45
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deFryskSmegzor, ubuntu keeps logs03:45
BlazintSnusmumriken, it's your own password03:45
topyliwhat was the irssi "change window" command again?03:45
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bimberiSmegzor: see /topic03:46
Smegzorfailing that.  I need the 2 urls I was given not long ago, repasted.03:46
AnswerSettings -> Preferneces -> Logging03:46
iqbalabob2 I am using HP nc622003:46
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Snusmumrikenbut i don't know what the default root password is..03:46
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bob2iqbala: great.  all you can do is file a bug and hope someone fixes it, or pay someone to fix it for you.03:46
bob2or learn how to hack the acpi code.03:46
bob2Snusmumriken: wiki.ubuntu.com/Rootsudo03:46
Puff-n-StuffSyaZaLoveNabiL, please do not send me spam when I join the channel.03:46
iqbalabob2 thnx03:46
Puff-n-StuffSyaZaLoveNabiL, I do not need the porn spam, thank you very much.03:47
sriautoanybody want joint me?03:47
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Puff-n-Stuffok...quicky question...how would one go about figuring out what /dev/ device a usb to serial adapter sets up when it connects?03:47
soxhi, can anyone tell me where can I copy my truefonts to use them with openoffice?03:47
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bur[n] erPuff-n-Stuff: lsusb ?03:47
bur[n] ersox: open nautilus fonts:/// and drop them03:48
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othomasP&S: mine uses sda103:48
topyliPuff-n-Stuff: you think you're talking to a person?03:48
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Puff-n-Stuffbur[n] er, that shows the usb devices...Im trying to figure out what the /dev/ entry is for the virtual serial port..03:48
Puff-n-Stufftopyli, one can hope...but apparently its a bot.03:48
bur[n] eroh , i dunno then Puff-n-Stuff ;)03:49
topyliprobly03:49
sriautoanybody want joint me?03:49
sriautoanybody want joint me?03:49
sriautoanybody want joint me?03:49
apokryphossriauto: do not flood the channel03:49
pybe-lappyno03:49
deFryskjoint ? I dont smoke03:49
soxthanks :D03:49
AnswerPlease do not encourage the trolls!03:50
deFryskSmegzor, plz no privating03:50
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Smegzorok.  but I didn't want to spam for that in here03:51
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topylithis damn keybd is not exactly irssi- certified :(03:52
Smegzori've lost the 2 urls I was given, no logging, no history, nadda.  I had to reboot.  Could someone throw them at me please?03:52
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apokryphosubotu: tell Smegzor about logs03:52
deFryskSmegzor, if  sudo /sbin/grub-install /dev/hda does not work you might have to reinstall ubuntu03:52
Whistleranybody got breezy+ ati working ?03:52
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Smegzorhmm..  that has failed twice so far.03:53
SmegzorI'll keep trying03:53
topylideFrysk: that won't work. grub would call it hd(0,0)03:53
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deFrysktopyli, what would you do ?03:53
topylideFrysk: grub-install hd(0,0)03:54
AnswerSmegzor : I have all the urls, which are u looking for ?03:54
deFryskSmegzor, try what topyli just said03:54
Snusmumrikeni have configured it twice but i stil get the same error03:55
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soxfonts:/// doesn't works....03:55
bur[n] erfonts:/03:55
Smegzori'll try anything at the moment :)  I may not need the urls..03:55
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soxoh :D03:55
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Snusmumrikenapokryphos: i have configured it twice but still get the same error03:55
sox... no, not works03:55
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deFryskSmegzor, and bookmark the urls ;p03:55
bur[n] eralthough, both work for me sox03:55
soxinvalid protocol03:56
bur[n] er"nautilus fonts:///" :P03:56
soxreally?03:56
Smegzor:P03:56
sox:S03:56
jeanrehow big is the upgrade from warty to hoary?03:56
bob2hundreds of megs03:56
deFryskjeanre, about 600 megs03:56
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soxoops03:56
jeanredamn03:56
jeanreI can not do that03:56
soxI was tiping fontz :D03:56
topyliSmegzor: firs chroot to your root partition so that you actally have grub to install :)03:56
soxok03:56
soxright :D03:56
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apokryphosSnusmumriken: you should generally be getting that error if your xorg.conf isn't set up currectly. What type ofcard do you have?03:57
apokryphosSnusmumriken: and, is this breezy?03:57
Snusmumrikenofcard?03:57
apokryphosSnusmumriken: graphics card. NVidia? ATI?03:57
Snusmumrikenati03:57
deFryskcoffee :)03:57
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apokryphosubotu: tell Snusmumriken about ati03:57
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topyliTough03:58
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lastnode_this suspend thing bothers me03:58
lastnode_isn't there a list of fixes i can try?03:58
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icc14anyone give me a link on the steps to setup yahoo messenger04:00
lastnode_icc14, use gaim04:00
lastnode_comes with ubuntu default install04:00
lastnode_look under applications > internet04:00
Smegzorok.  rebooting again :|04:00
deFryskicc14, yahoo messenger howto is on yahoo.com04:00
lastnode_you can setup your yahoo account in that04:00
dbzdeath[21:59]  <SyaZaLoveNabiL> http://www.geocities.com/malaybitchvids/malaybitch.zip <--- Download Now Free For Preview!! We Have Malay Bitch On Action!! <--- user is spamming04:00
Answericc14: nicotine is another alternative im program (but gaim is default)04:00
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icc14no explanation re: dependencies04:00
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mjrisn't nicotine mostly for p2p file sharing with chat added? :)04:01
lastnode_Answer, dude, like don't advocate smoking. :D04:01
deFryskAnswer, nicotine ?04:01
freshmintwhere do i get a list of ubuntu's main component?04:01
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freewoodyHow do I remove my Squid Cache ?04:01
deFrysknicotine is a p2p program (pyslsk)04:01
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apokryphosbur[n] er: what's the problem?04:01
freewoodySquid's Cache is getting full so I need to delete all the contents of my Cache04:01
icc14pls04:02
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icc14anyone??04:02
iqbalabob2 I just realized the ubuntu I downloaded is customized for HP laptop and my fn key does work now04:02
iqbalathanks for the help04:02
lastnode_iqbala, function key works on mine too04:02
Earthencould someone tell me what the miicrosoft-dn service is?04:02
lastnode_and it's unbranded :)04:02
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iqbalalastnode_ kewl04:02
bur[n] erapokryphos: SyaZaLoveNabiL is a nasty porn spamme04:02
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dbzdeathhmmm shall i take the breezy plunge...04:03
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deFryskdbzdeath, looking at your name.... I wouldnt04:03
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iqbalai got my old logitech cam workin too04:03
icc14anyone show me the steps to install yahoo messenger including dependencies04:03
reiki_workI should probably shut my machine off when I go to work... I wonder if leaving it on is eating batteries in my wireless mouse and keyboard :)04:03
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iqbalaubuntu seems lot easier that fedora core 4..04:03
xukunanybody using Beezy? ist still very unstable to try?04:03
dbzdeathdeFrysk: um?... why?04:03
[Wiebel] it's running fine here04:03
othomaslol, apok04:03
iqbalai used to use that and have some difficulties to make things work04:03
bob2xukun: it still has some issues, especially with nvidia binary modules04:04
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apokryphosgeh04:04
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SmegzorIT WORKED! :)  You guys are awesome :D04:04
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xukunbob2, so that is no go yet?04:04
reiki_workapokryphos: I've done that before... I used to be opper on a windows channel in efnet :)04:04
othomasgood deal smegzor04:04
deFryskSmegzor, great :)04:05
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icc14help04:05
Smegzornow I can boot into Windows ;)  jk04:05
iqbalaSmegzor what worked ..sorry I missed it.. i am new in ubuntu too.. may be something i sh'd know too :-)04:05
apokryphosreiki: I've just changed my irc client (using kvirc now) -- taking some getting used to =)04:05
deFryskicc14, good question :D04:05
reiki_workhehehe04:05
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Smegzornothing earth shattering.  I dual boot,  Windows craps on other OS's boot loaders.  And the official guide to restoring grub doesn't (in my case) restore it.04:06
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iqbalaSmegzor gotcha.. thnx04:06
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bob2xukun: you should be fine unless you care about the nvidia binary drivers04:07
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Smegzorthanks again guys.  I'm out of your hair now..  till I break it next time :)04:07
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sriauto304:08
Marconianhello, ppl04:08
reiki_workSmegzor: I bought a dataport cage and 2 carriers (removeable drives!) I lovk in Ubuntu drive and I am an Ubuntu machine. *IF* I need XP for something (hasn't happened in about a month now) I can shut down, slide out the ubuntu drive, insert XP drive and boot to XP04:08
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Marconiancould anyone please help me? :D04:08
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sambagirlwow 66 updates applied04:08
emanuelezhello04:08
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icc14help me with my yahoo messenger pls04:09
deFryskicc14, yahoo messenger howto is on yahoo.com04:09
Answericc14: Do Not Use Yahoo Messenger.  Use GAIM04:09
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Smegzorheh  that would be nice.  they have that at work.  I am jealous :)04:09
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Marconiani want to install thunderbird in my language, but i couldn't04:09
emanuelezon boot my system spends A LOT of time installing network devices... any hint?04:09
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sambagirlmaybe is translating from espanol to ingles? :)04:10
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sambagirltakes time04:10
Impiiiihi all04:10
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highvoltagehi Impiiii04:10
Impiiii:D04:10
Marconianany Brazilian here?04:10
sambagirltransplanted brazilians counting?04:11
sambagirlbbl chao04:11
Impiiiihmm happy that I found the irc client in ubuntu =D04:11
Gorgonzolahmm, gotta get up for work in 6 hours... better go to bed, night all04:11
sambagirlmarcnian private message04:11
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sambagirlfala portugese?04:11
Marconiani do04:12
sambagirlbbl chao04:12
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Impiiiihm so there is anything like a perform in xchat?04:12
dbzdeathis there still the option for server install for breezy?04:12
reiki_workperform?04:12
Impiiiihmm04:12
Impiiiian option that you not always have to type in the channels on every startup04:13
apokryphosdbzdeath: yes, of course.04:13
dbzdeathgood04:13
deFryskImpiiii, yes04:13
reiki_workImpiiii: yes04:13
Impiiiiso where is it ^04:13
Impiiii^04:13
deFryskxlick xchat button in xchat and check it out04:13
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deFryskxchat serverlist edit04:14
Impiiiiah k04:14
reiki_workI was happy with Chatzilla, but when firefox crashes it takes out the chatzilla client too :)04:14
Impiiiithx :)04:14
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nanomadcan i ask here a question regarding breezy?04:14
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deFryskasking to ask is not done here nanomad04:15
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wordyfellowI just re-installed ubuntu - it never prompted me for the root password, i did give me a prompt for a user account.  So I am trying to figure out how to get to an account with administrative privilages.04:15
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deFryskwordyfellow, ubuntu uses sudo04:16
apokryphosubotu: tell wordyfellow about root04:16
deFrysk!sudo04:16
uboturumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo04:16
deFryskbust bot04:16
deFryskbusy04:16
nanomadok...so, i have a problem with my scanner. if i run xsane as root, all's ok. if i run it as normal user, no go04:16
Snusmumrikenapokryphos: Now i got it almost running.. But my keyboard aren't working.. only numbers and special symbols :S04:16
nanomadive searched under /dev/usb, but i cant find device scanner04:16
apokryphosSnusmumriken: are you sure you specified the correct keyboard type?04:16
wordyfellowthanks, I am looking up info on wiki04:17
othomaswordy: the pther way is to go into user manager and then click show all users then change roots password..then you need to go into GDM manager and select "allow root login locally"04:17
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EarthenI just installed fire starter and i am getting alot if inbound traffic but no outbound traffic, is this right?04:17
Snusmumrikenapokryphos: no, and i have no idea how to do that04:17
apokryphosSnusmumriken: when you were configuring your X, it asked what type. Generic keyboard should generally work04:18
Snusmumrikenbut i doesnt04:18
apokryphosit really does04:19
apokryphosSnusmumriken: though, you can just take a look at your xorg.conf04:19
Marconiani want to install thunderbird in my language, but i couldn't04:19
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SnusmumrikenAnd how do i do that? The same way as before?04:19
Marconianany help?04:19
apokryphosSnusmumriken: xorg.conf is a file -- /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:20
Snusmumrikenok..04:20
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nanomadno one can help?04:20
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wordyfellowlol - i see, root is disabled initially.  That answers my question.  Now I am trying to figure out how to configure my wireless linkys card under ubutu.04:20
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Marconiansambagirl, are you there?04:21
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Snusmumrikenok.. I have opened the file and found the keyboard drivers.. but i don't understand anything..04:21
Earthen_can someone help with firestarter setup?04:22
Snusmumrikenapokryphos: what shall i cahnge then?04:23
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apokryphosSnusmumriken: what Identifier does your keyboard have? Is it Generic?04:23
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Snusmumrikenyep04:24
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Snusmumrikenmaybe it's this.. XkbVariant "se" and MkbOptions "se"04:25
emanuelezon boot my system spends A LOT of time installing network devices... any hint?04:25
nanomademanuelez, do u have dhcp on your lan?04:26
apokryphosSnusmumriken: you want a Swedish keyboard, no?04:26
sorush20guys I keep trying to log onto ubuntu as default it not working.. I have tried deleting the default lock, shutting down thunderbird completely, but its no use.. any help04:26
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ds[de] if I want to install ubuntu and winxp on the same harddrive, would it matter which OS I'd install first? maybe it's easier if I install one of these two first?04:26
emanueleznanomad: i have a laptop so i often change network settings.. somtimes i use wireless, sometimes i use cables...04:27
Renskids[de] : yes it does04:27
Snusmumrikeni am swedish..04:27
ds[de] Renski: what would you recommend to install first?04:27
Renskids[de] : install winxp first, as it has a habit of wiping the MBR, which wipes the bootloader.04:27
apokryphosSnusmumriken: that's a yes, then. XkbRules is xorg?04:27
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Snusmumrikenyep.04:27
othomasds{de}: i would do XP first..windows tends to load it's own mbr04:27
apokryphosSnusmumriken: what driver?04:28
nanomademanuelez, you should try to configure your eth card with a static ip04:28
ds[de] Renski/othomas: ok, thanks for your answer04:28
Snusmumrikenkeybord..04:28
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othomasur welcome ds04:28
emanuelezi think that the gnome networg configuration utility has done the mess04:28
apokryphosSnusmumriken: do you have "kbd"?04:28
emanuelezi wish i could have a virgin network setup everytime i boot my comp04:28
Snusmumrikendunno..04:29
emanueleznanomad: ops... forgot to write your name to solor highlight my previous 2 messages04:29
SnusmumrikenWhat's that?04:29
apokryphosSnusmumriken: well, what does the xorg.conf say?04:29
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nanomademanuelez, np, i read them04:29
apokryphosSnusmumriken: it's probably easier if you just pastebin that whole section04:29
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SnusmumrikenIdentifier "Generic Keyboard"04:30
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apokryphosSnusmumriken: no, don't paste in here.04:30
apokryphosubotu: tell Snusmumriken about paste04:30
nanomademanuelez, on my laptop, i takes a huge time 'cause it tries to initialize both wlan and lan04:30
boman_!paste04:30
ubotuI heard paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text04:30
nanomademanuelez, so ive configured the lan with a static ip and disabled the wlan at boot time04:31
nanomademanuelez, now it is better04:31
chipmunkany program that i can use my webcam in this ubuntu?04:32
oamI just installed a software raid, and rebooted after it was done building the raid and after the cration of a filesystem on it(xfs). Ubuntu no crashes during boot. I saw a similar post last night, anyone got any ideas on why on earth it would crash?04:32
SnusmumrikenCan i paste in PM?04:32
oamSnusmumriken: use the url, code/configs on irc is awfull04:32
apokryphosSnusmumriken: ok, go for it. Generally you should use a pastebin service though.04:32
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nanomadchipmunk, gnomemeeting should04:32
chipmunkoh04:33
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chipmunkil try04:33
chipmunkthanks nanomad04:33
nanomadnp04:33
chipmunk=)04:33
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emanueleznanomad: how did u disable wlan? if i disable it from gnome it keeps loading it on the next boot04:35
oamMade a software raid1 a year ago with gentoo,no problems, but something borked here :(04:35
yahalomis the new gnome editor actually smeg?04:35
emanueleznanomad: it would be cool if i could background the dhcl search04:35
oamyahalom: all gui editors are besides visual studio and eclipse ;)04:35
emanuelezdhcp* as in knoppix boot04:36
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Snusmumrikenapokryphos: u got it?04:37
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apokryphosSnusmumriken: nope. You apparently didn't send it.04:37
KeizerHey guys, what's the PDF reader that Ubuntu uses?04:37
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oamKeizer: err?04:38
oamKeizer: isn't there one ad the adobe webpage?04:38
cmathesonok so i got a new isp... and now for some reason all my linux boxen are unable to connect w/ gaim, irc, most websites w/ firefox, etc.  everything works fine on my family's windows box(es).  the strangest thing is that i can connect to Yahoo! M$N etc using centercicq, and links is able to browse all pages.... if i connect to other networks everything works fine (as normal), this is blowing my mind and i don't get it.  any clues?04:38
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oamad at04:39
Keizeroam: What are you talking about?04:39
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oampdf reader04:39
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dcravencmatheson: Are you using a router? If so, try logging into that and releasing/renewing your lease. I've had strange behaviour like that when my IP changes.04:40
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Whistlercmatheson take a look at your dns maybe they are set up in wrong way04:40
cmathesondcraven: rad, i'll check that out... (have to do it at later, i was forced to wait til work to ask since i can't get on irc at home heh)04:41
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dcravencmatheson: rad ;-)04:41
cmathesonWhistler: i was thinking that too, but everthing resolves, i'm just having problems connecting... that rules out the possibility of dns does it not? (i may not understand these things completely)04:41
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Whistlercmatheson maybe your linux and windows ips are different and router blocks it04:42
Whistleror smt with router04:42
Snusmumrikenapokryphos: Driver Keyboard, CoreKeyboard, rules xorg, model pc105, layout se, variant se, options se04:42
sproingieWhistler's theory is a good one04:42
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sproingiethat's exactly what happens to me04:42
Whistler:)04:43
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Whistleri had a lot of trouble with router04:43
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apokryphosSnusmumriken: try changing Driver Keyboard to Driver "kbd", and then xkbmodel to pc104. Then restart your X. If that doesn't work, then I don't know...04:43
Whistleri figured them out04:43
sproingiemy router is smart enough to run a dns proxy so i never need to worry about the other stuff dhcp sets04:43
randomuser123343hello04:44
cmathesonWhistler: hmm, so the dhcp might assign faulty information to me?04:44
Whistlerexept port forwarding04:44
Whistlercmatheson may be04:44
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Whistlertry to set the static ip04:44
cmathesonWhistler: i thought i compared my stuff w/  the windoze boxes, but i'll check again when i get home thanks04:44
Whistlernp :04:44
Whistler:)04:44
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hmrochai have a cups server exporting some printers04:45
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oamoh joy, building a raid today to, weee04:45
randomuser123343could anyone tell me what libraries do i need in order to play avi files with totem?04:45
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hmrochai want students to only see one printer, how can I do that?04:45
apokryphosrandomuser123343: it depends on how they're encoded; avi is just a placeholder, really.04:45
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apokryphosubotu: tell randomuser123343 about w32codecs04:45
randomuser123343xvid04:46
othomasrandomuser: yes, get kaffeine04:46
Snusmumrikenapokryphos: problem is.. i can't change my x when i can't type :S'04:46
apokryphosSnusmumriken: when you're out of X your keyboard is fine? That's weird.04:46
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Snusmumrikenno.. i'm sitting with my laptog right now..'04:47
Jlornd04:47
Snusmumrikenlaptop*04:47
StarScreamXbroken in  breezy again?04:47
StarScreamor am i just broken?04:47
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indypendesomeone had 3d acceleration in breezy with ati 9*** series?04:48
dcravenSnusmumriken: Maybe you can ssh in from where you are and change the file? (I'm only seeing the last bit of the whole conversation, so I may be talkin' out my butt)04:48
Snusmumrikenapokryphos: my keyboard on the computer with linux doesn't work, this is my laptop..04:48
apokryphosSnusmumriken: yes. On your laptop, when you're not in X, you say that it works fine04:49
apokryphosworks fine?04:49
Snusmumrikenoh.. now i got it :P Yes then it works04:49
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indypendei install newest ati drivers. all ok but i can't use hardware 3d acceleration!04:50
indypendein hoary all was ok with fglrx!04:50
apokryphosSnusmumriken: if you don't get a reply here from anyone else, I recommend posting to the mailing list/forum, telling them that (that it works when you're not in X), and paste them that part of the file04:51
evanproapt-get install ia32-libs04:51
evanprounable to create `./usr/lib32/libGL.so.1.2': No such file or directory04:51
evanproSucks04:51
apokryphosSnusmumriken: you can try doing what I said, though -- altering your xorg.conf. Just go out of X and use nano -- should be alright.04:51
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Snusmumrikenand how to i exit x?04:51
othomassnusmumriken: use apt-get to install mc..the command is apt-get install mc ..then type "mc" at the prompt..you should be able to edit the X config file then04:51
evanproSnusmumriken, Ctl + Alt + Backspace04:52
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[Wiebel] what happend to xorgcfg anyway? :)04:52
Whistlerdoes male mean girl?04:52
Whistler:D04:52
apokryphosevanpro: nah, that'll restart X in most cases.04:52
[Wiebel] it's no longer in breezy04:52
apokryphosSnusmumriken: you can change to a terminal session by typing ctrl+alt+f1-604:52
Whistlerdoes male mean girl?04:53
Whistleranybody?04:53
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Whistleri forgot :D04:53
othomasmale means boy04:53
Snusmumrikenit works with ctrl + ALT + backspace04:53
apokryphosok, cool.04:54
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indypendesomeone had 3d acceleration in breezy with ati 9*** series?04:55
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indypendei install newest ati drivers. all ok but i can't use hardware 3d acceleration!04:55
Snusmumrikenit couldn't find mc04:55
indypendein hoary all was ok with fglrx!04:55
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Whistlerindypende i have same prob04:55
liran_sk04:55
liran_eek, damn keyboard04:55
liran_:p04:55
Whistlerindypende you are on breezy wright?04:55
indypendeWhistler, yes04:56
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indypendeWhistler, bad problem04:56
Snusmumrikenapokryphos: it coldn't find mc04:56
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vieirarCan someone help me I don ot remember what i had to put in my fstab to allow users to view files on NTFS partitions04:56
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indypendeWhistler, i launch also a bug tracking04:56
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indypendeWhistler, because i got this error from an update from hoary to breezy!04:57
indypendeWhistler, sorry for my bad english!04:58
Whistlerindypende04:58
Whistleri updated from hoary too :)04:58
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indypendei want to solve this problem before start a brand new installation of breezy (fantastic_breezy) when become official!04:59
Jlornhow does hoary compare with FC404:59
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othomassnusmumriken: you have to go into the repository list and add the support and international lists..04:59
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heartEyewhat do I do with a .BIN file?  I want to install java for my browser05:00
pr0tocolhelloooo everyone :)05:00
indypendeWhistler, have you see this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64234&page=1&pp=1005:01
orospakrheartEye, chmod +x java-installer.bin05:01
SnusmumrikenIt uses the gnome config rather than the x config..05:01
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indypendei find no solution... but you maybe can...05:01
othomasheart: you make it executable and then type ./java*** etc.bin05:01
orospakrheartEye, also, you should consider using the blackdown java packages for debian instead05:01
funkyHatheartEye, orospakr there is a package in the ubuntu repositories for installing java05:01
jameswfrosthello05:01
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orospakrfunkyHat, oh05:01
entvexi need help :-/05:02
pr0tocolcan anyone help me right quick.  I'm getting an X server error talking about "Caught Signal 11", anyone know what this is?05:02
orospakrfunkyHat, I thought I just had to add blackdown for that.05:02
entvexagen05:02
Snusmumrikenapokryphos: It uses the GNOME settings05:02
pr0tocolentvex: ask your question05:02
AVR_GRwhere can i download tha vmware?05:02
heartEyefunkyHat, I have java-common installed and java does not work on webpages05:02
funkyHatorospakr, you still use the .bin from the sun website, you just use the package to extract and created a .deb from the .bin05:02
jameswfrostdoes anyone have experience with the Netgear WG311 or WG311T wireless adaptor on ubuntu? I've read in some places that it's supposed to work out of the box. can anyone confirm this, please?05:02
entvexi cant finet /etc/asound.conf05:02
orospakrfunkyHat, aah05:02
heartEyemozilla says the plug-in is called x-java-wm05:02
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heartEyevm05:02
entvexdo you have /etc/asound.conf ????05:03
ompaulJlorn, for one it is not a model of how an operating system may look, it is the release - debian in origin it relies on a different format for package management, but get this, if you try it you'll like it :-)  [seriously what did you expect, but funny enough it is in a word, great] 05:03
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pr0tocolanyone know about that "Caught signal 11" error in xorg?05:03
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entvexdo you have /etc/asound.conf ????05:03
pr0tocolI get to see the NVIDIA logo, but then it dies05:03
funkyHatheartEye, heartEye install java-package05:03
pr0tocolentvex: do  slocate asound.conf05:03
funkyHat* orospakr05:03
pr0tocolentvex: that will tell you everywhere it is at05:04
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entvexdo som one have /etc/asound.conf ?05:04
apokryphosSnusmumriken: why are you trying to use mc? And, what uses the gnome settings?05:04
pr0tocolentvex: dude, I just told you what to do...05:04
Snusmumrikenapokryohos: I got it running now.. some changes in GNOME that I did fixed it.. Thanks for all the help05:04
pr0tocolhmm..05:04
heartEyeI see no java-package, just java-common and a few other java-related things05:04
pr0tocolcan anyone here lend me a hand with this X server problem?05:04
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jameswfrostIs anyone able to help with what I asked?05:04
entvexdo som one have /etc/asound.conf ?05:04
apokryphosSnusmumriken: ok, excellent :)05:04
apokryphosubotu: tell Snusmumriken about tab05:05
entvexdo som one have /etc/asound.conf ? ? i need it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753&page=1&pp=10&highlight=Add+Sound+Card and i cant finne it05:05
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pr0tocolentvex: look man, for the last time, open console and do a slocate asound.conf05:06
pr0tocolentvex: and to make things easier for you, no there isn't one05:06
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pr0tocolyou can make one yourself, though.  There are examples05:06
rnzi think there are problems with flash/firefox in breezy. anyone can confirm?05:06
entvexpr0tocol Thx :) mate05:06
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entvexim in ubuntu now :)05:07
pr0tocolapokryphos: you know anything about fixing this x server prob I'm having?05:07
ompaulrnz, no, I watched badger badger badger last night for 10 minutes while I was falling out of my chair lauging05:07
funkyHatheartEye, do you have universe and multiverse enabled?05:07
apokryphospr0tocol: on Breezy? What's the error message?05:07
funkyHat:/ 167MB more updates05:08
heartEyeyes05:08
Answerwow05:08
heartEyewell how do I check funkyHat ?05:08
pr0tocolapokryphos: "Caught signal 11"05:08
Earthenompaul: hi05:08
funkyHatheartEye, if you haven't added them yourself, then you don't have them, follow the tutorial ubotu is about to tell you about to enable the extra repositories, then you should see java-package05:08
ompaulEarthen, hello05:08
pr0tocolapokryphos: tells me something about libfb.a:fbmmx.o too, but it tells me that that might not be causing the problem05:08
pr0tocolsaying "No symbols found"05:09
vieirarCan someone help me I don ot remember what i had to put in my fstab to allow users to view files on NTFS partitions05:09
vieirarSorry if this was answered already lost connection05:09
ompaul!tell vieirar about ntfs05:09
apokryphospr0tocol: sig 11 is generally a seg fault. Vague. I probably won't be able to help, but could you pastebin the whole output?05:09
apokryphospr0tocol: no luck on the bug report then?05:09
TMMcan I take a minute to express my love for the following message? :"Please restart any running Firefoxes, or you will experience problems.05:09
TMM"05:09
TMMcool :)05:09
pr0tocolapokryphos: one was already filed05:09
pr0tocolapokryphos: how would I go about pastebinning the thing?05:10
TMMit has a sense of forboding05:10
TMMI like it05:10
funkyHat!pastebin05:10
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:10
funkyHatpr0tocol, ^05:10
pr0tocolthx05:10
TMMI happen to have a running firefox05:11
icc14help me with my yahoo messenger pls05:11
funkyHatnp :)05:11
jameswfrostDoes anyone have experience with the Netgear WG311 or WG311T wireless adaptor on ubuntu? I've read in some places that it's supposed to work out of the box. can anyone confirm this, please?05:11
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Answericc14: Do not use yahoo messenger.  Use GAIM.  Do not continue to ask about yahoo messenger.05:11
jameswfrostOr with the Linksys WUSB54G? That's what I've got at the moment - I had troubles setting it up with other distros. Anyone?05:11
funkyHatTMM, updating to breezy?05:11
TMMfunkyHat, yep05:12
Answerjameswfrost: I cannot get the linksys wireless usb to be recognized in any linux.  linksys's official stance is that they do not support linux05:12
TMMstill no problems05:12
jameswfrostyeah, that's what I was thinking05:12
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rnzompaul: http://www.motelsoigne.it/ ?05:12
icc14whats wrong with YM??05:12
jameswfrostthanks Answer. That's why I was looking at the Netgear WG311 or 311T05:12
TMMahhhh05:12
jameswfrostI've read in some places that it's supposed to just work05:12
funkyHatTMM, yeah, i got that message, i wasn't at home at the time though :P05:12
TMMI'm experiencing problems05:12
jameswfrostand other places where it doesn't :D05:12
rnzompaul: some freeze with motorola.com sometimes05:12
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TMMstupid ubuntu!05:12
jameswfrostso I was just wondering if anyone could confirm whether it does or not05:12
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TMMI'm having trouble with my firefox05:13
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TMMit could have at least warned me05:13
TMM:P05:13
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wordyfellowIs there a vendor of wireless cards that recognizes Linux?05:13
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jameswfrostWhat's wrong with Firefox ,TMM?05:13
jameswfrostgood question wordyfellow :D05:13
wordyfellowand writes drivers for linux05:13
icc14what wrong with yahoo messenger?? y dont you support it??05:13
Answerjameswfrost: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards05:13
funkyHatjameswfrost, he's upgrading to breezy, and he's kept it running05:13
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_GoRDoN_Does anybody know where I can download TeleWell modem drivers?05:13
ompaulrnz, that is that site - not flash05:13
vieirarompaul, Thanks05:13
jameswfrostah, funkyHat :)05:13
TMMjameswfrost, dpkg told me to restart any running firefoxes or else I would get trouble, so, naturally, I kept poking at it untill I got trouble :)05:14
jameswfrostthanks Answer - it does say on there that it should work :D05:14
wordyfellowlol - ok, thats too easy, i should have looked it up first, before asking.05:14
entvexim going to reboot now :)05:14
jameswfrostbut some people have said that other things on there were wrong05:14
dcravenicc14: I think Yahoo supports it no?05:14
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ompaulrnz, so they have a bad web site tell them about being able to talk to any browser they are turning people away05:14
StarScreamhi guys, anyone else having problems with breezy and X ?05:15
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bob2StarScream: are you using the nvidia drivers?05:15
StarScreambob2: nah, its an ATI card...05:15
bob2StarScream: using binary drivers?05:15
StarScreamnope05:15
StarScreamOS ones05:15
jameswfrostAnswer - I think the problem with this netgear card is that (as is usually the case!) there are two versions05:16
TMMand that concludes my breezy update05:16
jameswfrostone version has an atheros chip and works fine05:16
TMMtime for a reboot :)05:16
TMMwish me luck05:16
jameswfrostthe other has a different chip05:16
StarScreambob2: binary interface broken ?05:16
sproingiespeaking of OS drivers, are the r300 drivers in apt anywhere?05:16
pr0tocolok guys05:16
pr0tocolapokryphos: I posted in pastebin already05:17
wordyfellowhmmmm looks like I am going to have to use ndiswrapper05:17
pr0tocolso you can check it out05:17
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bob2StarScream: I dunno yet05:17
apokryphospr0tocol: link?05:17
bob2sproingie: the binary ones are05:17
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jameswfrostI think one version works with madwifi, and the other version you have to use ndiswrapper05:17
sproingiebob2: yah i use those now.  wanted to give the opensource ones a try05:17
bob2sproingie: have to build from cvs, I gather05:17
pr0tocolpastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/220805:17
pr0tocoloops05:18
pr0tocolpaste.ubuntulinux.nl/220805:18
Answerjameswfrost: If you're looking to buy a new wireless card, we have had sucess with Orinoco from Proxim http://www.proxim.com/products/wifi/client/05:18
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pr0tocolapokryphos: it's paste.ubuntulinux.nl/220805:18
sproingiebob2: tch.  hope they have a release for them sometime soon05:18
FhaeTonexcuse me good morning, question: does Ubuntu support SLI rigs?05:19
pluffsyhello. what are special about ubuntu which makes it a great dist? I've been trying to install ubuntu for a few days now with lots of problems I never had with other dists, and I'm thinking of switching to something like debian.05:19
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Gobbladebian is almost the same thing..05:19
bob2FhaeTon: does X?05:19
pr0tocolyup05:19
bob2pluffsy: are you using breezy?05:19
Gobblapluffsy, whats the problems then?05:19
FhaeTon?05:19
GnonthgolHow do I change the ip table on my computer?05:19
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FhaeTonX05:19
apokryphospr0tocol: I'm not sure I'm afraid, sorry.05:20
Kagome_006EHLP!05:20
jameswfrostAnswer - thanks! how easy are they to get working?05:20
pr0tocolapokryphos: no problem... :(05:20
Kagome_006help! im en05:20
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pr0tocolapokryphos: thanks though,05:20
pr0tocolhmmm05:20
pr0tocolanyone else wanna give it a whirl?05:20
pluffsybob2: No I'm using 5.0405:20
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jameswfrostpluffsy - that problems are you having?05:21
Kagome_006i need sum help!05:21
sproingieKagome_006: try dc05:21
Kagome_006how do i get ubuntu to use dial up networking?05:21
dcravenKagome_006: I fear you are going about it all wrong.05:21
pluffsyGobbla: I can't get dhcp clienting to work (I've tried dhclient, pump and dhcpcd), and nautlius and that menu bobo-whatever won't start they just give unknown error on start.05:21
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pluffsyso I feel quite lost.05:21
Gobbla:(05:21
Kagome_006dc: help me pls05:21
sproingiedc does sums05:22
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pluffsyGobbla: Default installation :(05:22
Answerjameswfrost: I have an orinoco classic gold pc card and it works automatically.  we have stacks of proxim cards here and htey have all wokred05:22
Kagome_006how do i get ubuntu to use dial up networking?05:22
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jameswfrostAnswer: PC card as in PCMCIA?05:22
Gnonthgolpluffsy: does the dhce server work?05:22
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Gobblapluffsy, even though I havent used debian i dont think you should have much luck there either..05:22
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Kagome_006i have a modem i cant configre it05:22
Answerjameswfrost:  yes pcmcia,  I have not been able to make any usb wireless card work with any linux distro05:23
bob2pluffsy: dhcp didn't work?  it's not you who had that weird usb wireless thing, is it?05:23
pluffsyGnonthgol: yep, I've used it on YDL and on my mac right now.05:23
w-the-cis it normal for standby to not work when DRI is enabled?05:23
bob2w-the-c: depends on your hardware05:23
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w-the-cwell, specifically restarting x doesn't work05:23
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bob2w-the-c: and your drivers. if you use binary-only drivers, you generally lose.05:23
w-the-cI've got and ATI FireGL05:23
pluffsybob2: no, just a ethernet card and adsl modem.05:23
pr0tocolso no one else wants to give it a whirl05:23
w-the-cit's a Thinkpad...  and I'm trying the fglrx drivers05:24
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sproingiefglrx tends to work better on the desktop cards ... ymmv with laptops05:24
pluffsyGobbla: Darn, I really like apt-get and the free software spirit of debian and ubuntu. don't wanna go back to rpm-hell.05:24
apokryphospr0tocol: it might be a good idea to post to the mailing-list/forum if you don't get a response here05:24
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Kagome_006[Kagome (Beta)]  Edited By - B|ueFire - Created by Kagome.05:24
Kagome_006can anyone help me05:25
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pr0tocolsynic: you son of a b..05:25
synic!!05:25
ubotuI heard ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me05:25
pr0tocolsynic: WHAT is going on?05:25
Gnonthgolpluffsy: try use tcpdump or ethereal to find out what might be wrong05:25
w-the-cymmv?  ok, I'll check that out05:25
sproingiei actually like rpm, especially with apt.  i dont like how poorly managed the rpm repos typically are05:25
synicpr0tocol: dunno, was gonna see if there was any news about the latest breezy updates breaking things.05:25
sproingieconflicting repos, gack05:25
w-the-chmm, I haven't heard anything about ymmv so I'll just search the ubuntu forums...05:25
=== Kagome_006 need ferking help
pr0tocolsynic: dude...lol...yea.  I'm having a slight problem with X myself.  Thats why I'm here05:25
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synicpr0tocol: just upgraded to breezy, or just an update?05:26
w-the-cthanks for the help05:26
pr0tocolsynic: I'm forced to use console... till I can get X up and running again05:26
sproingiew-the-c: ymmv == Your Mileage May Vary05:26
pr0tocolsynic: upgraded05:26
synicpr0tocol: you changed keyboard to kbd in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and installed xfs ?05:26
pluffsyGnonthgol: What kind of info could those give me? I have tried typing in the ip info I get from the dhcp server on my mac into ubuntu and then the connection works for a while but then stops and I have to plug-in the mac to get the connection back.05:26
Kagome_006......................05:26
Kagome_006GOD!05:26
Kagome_006I HAM|VE BEEN WAITING05:26
Kagome_006NOW IT NEED HELP!05:26
Kagome_006PLS05:26
Kagome_006IT A SIMPLE Q05:27
synicKagome_006: settle down.05:27
sproingieKagome_006: no one will help you if you shout at us05:27
apokryphosKagome_006: quit shouting; drop the caps.05:27
Kagome_006fine05:27
pr0tocolsynic: umm keyboard is set to xorg I think... and I'm not sure about xfs05:27
pr0tocollets have a look05:27
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ndazzaKagome_006: just ask, we will answer05:27
synicno, change keyboard to kbd05:27
bob2Kagome_006: do not ever do that again05:27
pr0tocolsynic: okee dokee05:27
netgrabberdamn ich brauch avidemux :(05:27
Gnonthgolpluffsy: it it tools for sniffing your network trafic05:27
funkyHat_ndazza, he wanted help setting up dial-up networking05:27
Kagome_006How do i use dial up on ubuntu05:27
ndazzaoh05:27
bob2Kagome_006: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto05:27
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Kagome_006.05:28
Kagome_006ty05:28
sproingieKagome_006: if you are having a problem with dialup, describe the problem05:28
bob2Kagome_006: which is linked from the FAQ, and the first hit when searching the wiki for "dialup"05:28
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pr0tocolsynic: didn't do a damn thing05:28
Gnonthgol!dialup05:28
uboturumour has it, dialup is https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto05:28
pluffsyGnonthgol: Yeah I know. I've used it to debug network apps. But what should I look for? I mean the dhcp clients just say they can't find a server.05:28
synicpr0tocol: install xfs ?  What error are you getting?05:28
pr0tocolsynic: same problem.  The thing is, I am able to see the nvidia sign for like 1 second and then it just dies05:28
er4z0rhmm do ubuntuusers use console-stuff like wvdial?05:28
pr0tocolsynic: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/220805:28
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er4z0rthat could give detailed info on Kagome_006's problem, or am i wrong?05:29
TMMa warm welcome from ubuntu breezy :)05:29
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synicpr0tocol: the error is farther up.05:29
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=== sproingie dist-upgrades to breezy ... hopefully things won't go boom
synicpr0tocol: those errors are fine05:29
funkyHat_er4z0r, he shouldn't need to use anything like that05:29
TMMthat was surprisingly and slightly dissapointingly painless05:29
pr0tocolsynic: I know they are05:29
Gnonthgolpluffsy: try find any abnormality to the dhcp things?05:29
er4z0rTMM: a warm wb, from another breezy05:29
sproingieTMM: i'm on amd64 ... i expect pain.  i'll let ya know :)05:29
pr0tocolsynic: thats what I'm saying...I don't understand why X won't start this bastard05:29
w-the-csproingie, doh...  I thought when you said ymmv with laptops you meant ymmv was some name of a driver ;) hmm...  any suggestions for 3d acceleration or dri for an ATI FireGL Mobility card?05:29
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synicpr0tocol: paste the whole thing.05:29
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TMMsproingie, I KNEW I should have bought some weird arch05:30
funkyHat_er4z0r, probably just needed to know where the controls for it were in the GUI05:30
sproingiew-the-c: your best bet is the fglrx driver ... it just might need some tweaking.  check the wiki, is my best advice05:30
TMMalthough it might be worth mentioning somewhere on the wiki that the bloody X font paths have changed05:30
pr0tocolsynic: how do you scroll up in console again? lol05:30
synicshift+pageup05:30
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Gnonthgolhow do you change the gateway?05:30
er4z0rfunkyHat_: dont want to scare people of from ubuntu, do you? ;)05:30
sproingiepr0tocol: or hit scroll lock and use pgup/pgdown05:30
beeryourselfexcuse me everyone05:30
pluffsyGnonthgol: But I don't have a clue what to look for. Should I check out the rfc:s for the dhcp protocol? :(05:30
funkyHat_er4z0r, exactly :)05:30
beeryourselfis there a floppy boot for ubuntu???05:31
jameswfrosti'm off- thanks for the help! :)05:31
er4z0rfunkyHat_: funky klicky bunty *g*05:31
pr0tocolyea thats not working guys05:31
funkyHat_:)05:31
sproingiei bet the dhcp rfc's would be awful edifying but not much help to a user05:31
TMMdo I get to kill whoever thought that the terminal icon should move to accesoires and remove the 'root terminal' option? please?05:31
=== er4z0r just wanted to thank all of you folks out there
funkyHat_breezy is nice. i like the tooltip 'you have updates' thing :P05:31
er4z0rthis is a really living channel05:31
indypendesomeone had 3d acceleration in breezy with ati 9*** series?05:31
er4z0rjap05:32
yahalomwow05:32
indypendei install newest ati drivers. all ok but i can't use hardware 3d acceleration!05:32
indypendein hoary all was ok with fglrx!05:32
pr0tocolsynic: any other methods of scrolling in console?05:32
TMMand glxgears don't report fps anymore? what's up with that?05:32
TMMlol05:32
TMMso many new things to bitch about05:32
er4z0ris the bootsplash patch new in breezy or didn't it just not occur to me in kubuntu05:32
TMMthat I'll probably start to love in about... well, 2 days :)05:32
bob2TMM: it's to stop people using it as a benchmarking tool05:32
bob2er4z0r: new, it's usplash05:32
TMMit's somewhat valid as a benchmarking tool05:32
Gnonthgolpluffsy: I should be 4 packeges, one to request, one to awnser, one to acept, and one to send the ip05:32
TMMbecause it's the same everywhere05:32
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TMMand a pretty decent indication if something is wrong05:33
TMM:)05:33
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synicpr0tocol: just scroll lock and pageup05:33
er4z0rbob2: will be supported back to debian?05:33
sproingieglxgears is useful as a benchmark when you compare it against the previous numbers on the same machine05:33
pluffsyGnonthgol: Alright. I'll take a look. Thanks.05:33
synicpr0tocol: you could just check the Xorg.0.log05:33
pr0tocolsynic: the crap aint workin either. keyboard logs05:33
TMMthere's the whole geometry that's coded in ofcourse...05:33
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Drazichi05:33
TMMI see the point05:33
bob2er4z0r: I doubt it05:33
bob2not by default, anyway05:33
pluffsyGnonthgol: that's port 67 I should sniff, right?05:34
pr0tocolbag05:34
TMMBUT if direct rendering is: yes and you still get like 100fps in glxgears you know somewhat where to look05:34
pr0tocolI'll just use vim05:34
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StarScreambob2: are you getting errors relating to your fixed fonts ?05:34
TMMI'll have to revise my whole troubleshooting scheme here05:34
er4z0rbob2: those guys are a lil conservative in Debian-Project ;)05:34
Drazicsomeone can help me? i burned ubuntu on a cd but when i start it it comes in dr-dos or something. how do i install it?05:34
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Gnonthgolpluffsy: somthing like that05:34
andaluciahello, I need from you guys the GDM theme that is used in ubuntu please , can you tar it and send it to me ?05:34
TMM/usr/lib to /usr/share ... really, shoot the guy that dreamt that up too05:34
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er4z0rDrazic: hi05:34
TMMESPECIALLY since it didn't update the xorg.conf file05:35
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bob2StarScream: no05:35
TMMwe are going to have SOOOO much trouble here if that's not fixed before breezy launches05:35
funkyHat_TMM, you must have told it not to then...05:35
T-OneI just realized I have a REAL problem...05:35
funkyHat_TMM, although it defaults not to if you've modified it05:35
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TMMfunkyHat_, I don't think it asked me05:35
T-Onecan't see anything on my LAN.05:35
bob2er4z0r: well, another view is just a little less tolerant of pointless fluff05:35
chrissturmhmm, if i run an app that outputs really a lot of text to the terminal, my whole system hangs05:35
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T-Oneno ping, nothing05:35
funkyHat_odd, it asked me TMM05:35
pr0tocolI have a few warnings, synic, from what I see...thats about it05:35
chrissturmwhat can i do about that?05:35
ndazzaandalucia: try fetching the gdm package off the ubuntu repositories05:35
synicpr0tocol: can you paste it?05:35
StarScreambob2: hmm crap...the new bootsplash in ubuntu is quite nice though :)05:35
TMMfunkyHat_, it just put the fonts somewhere else and didn't update my xorg.conf file05:35
T-OneI'm USING the router and the Internet (right now, remotely, over SSH, and port forwarding for IRC)05:36
T-Onebut can't see anything on the local LAN.05:36
pr0tocolsynic: lmao...tell me how to copy text in console and paste it05:36
T-Oneany ideas?05:36
synicpr0tocol: gotta install gpm, and then it's just the same as in X05:36
StarScreamTMM: you having X problems as well ?05:36
TMMfunkyHat_, luckely I've been fixing X errors since the dawn of time (so it feels) so it was no biggie, but still, for less experienced users... this is going to be a bit of a problem, *I* didn't even spot it05:36
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TMMStarScream, not anymore, but if you are still having them, let's hear 'em, I might be able to help :)05:37
T-Oneoh, btw TMM...freenx does work well...I had to do some funky stuff to make it work from behind my firewall, though05:37
TMMT-One, it's fast, isn't it? :)05:37
GnonthgolAnyone know how to change the routing tables on a computer?05:37
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TMMGnonthgol, euh... through the 'route' command? :)05:37
ndazzaGnonthgol: you mean on a linux computer i presume05:37
pr0tocolsynic: gimme one sec05:37
T-OneTMM: I can't tell...upload speed from LAN is 384, and the server is a P1 23305:37
TMMGnonthgol, what are you trying to accomplis?05:37
funkyHat_TMM, it's odd, yeah and could be pretty serious, but had you edited your xorg.conf? because mine was updated fine (i believe it asked me in fact)05:37
StarScreamTMM: ok, using breezy, just did an apt-get update apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade...now i'm getting the following erros in the X logs05:38
TMMfunkyHat_, I had to edit it manually05:38
TMMStarScream, "can't find font 'fixed'"?05:38
StarScreamyeh05:38
funkyHat_i know, but i mean had you edited it before upgrading?05:38
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TMMfunkyHat_, probably :)05:38
TMMStarScream, easy! :)05:38
T-OneI wonder why my system can't see my LAN...05:38
GnonthgolTMM: I am on a computer that sudanly lost internet at boot (dhcp)05:38
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StarScreamTMM: would you care to enlighten me  please ?05:39
funkyHatTMM, it's still odd though, as i know i'd edited mine, and it did ask me)05:39
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ndazzahehe poor TMM, you are popular today05:39
funkyHathehehe05:39
TMMStarScream, fire up a text editor, and open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf and I was already typing this when you started moaning so know you'll have waited for a lot longer for the reply because I wanted to type this :P05:39
ndazzaGnonthgol: try sudo ifconfig eth0 down; sudo ifconfig eth0 up05:39
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TMMndazza, I get that, charismatic05:40
netstarIs it possible to upgrade from breezy preview to breezy release?05:40
pr0tocolsynic: it's 499 lines, dude.  Where am I supposed to paste it?05:40
ndazzaGnonthgol: if that doesn't work: route add default gw <gateway IP address>05:40
synichttp://rafb.net/paste05:40
StarScreamTMM: hehe i shall pipe down then :)05:40
ndazzanetstar: not just now :)05:40
ndazzanetstar: try again when breezy is released05:40
ndazza:p05:40
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TMMGnonthgol, is your dhcp server configed correctly? you can add a default gateway manually with the following command: sudo route add default gw <ip address of gw>05:40
TMMStarScream, did you open up the file in your favorite text editor?05:41
ndazzaoh yeah... add sudo to what i wrote too05:41
StarScreamTMM: yep05:41
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netstar:)05:41
TMMStarScream, ok then, see at the top those "FontPath" lines?05:41
netstarHow do I change keyboard layouts?05:41
StarScreamTMM: uhuh05:41
netstarnot in X, but in the console?05:41
TMMStarScream, good, now I keep you waiting for a bit while I am typing this05:42
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TMMStarScream, you'll see that it all starts with /usr/lib/X1105:42
pr0tocolsynic: you think those warning could be causing the error?05:42
TMMStarScream, change those lines, and only those lines (not the defoma ones) to start with /usr/share/X1105:42
synicpr0tocol: no05:42
pr0tocolsynic: so then...nothing05:42
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StarScreamTMM: hmm mine has that already05:43
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pr0tocolsynic: and I'm not about to paste 499 lines your dirty bastard05:43
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StarScreamTMM:  FontPath        "/usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi"05:43
TMMStarScream, ok, that's good05:43
ndazzawhat does this file control the config of? /etc/X11/Xsession.d/30xorg-common_xresources05:43
synicpr0tocol: ok, send me the log :)05:43
TMMStarScream, do they end with :unscaled?05:43
Kagome_006tysfm05:43
StarScreamTMM a few do05:43
TMMStarScream, 100dpi and 75dpi?05:44
StarScreamyep05:44
TMMStarScream, ok then05:44
Kagome_006WINDOWS SUCK!05:44
pr0tocolsynic: lol. sending the log through irssi?05:44
synicpr0tocol: dcc05:44
TMMStarScream, try to sudo apt-get install x-window-system05:44
yahalomKagome_006: welcome to our tribe05:44
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Kagome_006lol05:44
ndazzahehe synic that was ironic05:44
synic /dcc send synic /var/log/Xorg.0.log05:44
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yahalomKagome_006: u picked the right pill, the red one i s the right one.05:44
Kagome_006im only 17 and i say windows sux05:44
pr0tocolsynic: get it yet?05:44
heartEyeim only 19 and I say windows sucks except when you need it05:45
synicno05:45
bob2try to stay on-topic05:45
synicndazza: hrmm?05:45
pr0tocolsynic: how about now?05:45
TMMKagome_006, good for you, I was 12 and got redhat 4.105:45
StarScreamTMM: erm...it says Package x-window-system is not available, but is referred to by another package.05:45
synicnope.05:45
yahalomi'm a 109, what is windows?05:45
Kagome_006lol05:45
er4z0rheartEye: jupp, when playing solitair, eh? *g*05:45
ndazzasynic: pr0tocol: dcc <-- ironic05:45
StarScreamTMM: or did you mean to do xserver-xorg ?05:45
TMMStarScream, that's right, x-window-system-core05:45
synicndazza: lol05:45
Kagome_006WINDOWS THE 8MB VIRUS!05:45
synicpr0tocol: got it05:45
pr0tocolfinally05:45
StarScreamTMM: ok, thats already the newest version05:45
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yahalomman05:45
pr0tocolndazza: hehehe05:46
Kagome_006wb tester05:46
TMMStarScream, ok...05:46
yahalomu should created a windows bashing channel05:46
TMMStarScream, one more05:46
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highvoltageanybody know where i can get a copy of the ubuntu manifesto? i can't find it on the website/wiki.05:46
pr0tocolMy crotch smells like bird food05:46
pr0tocolwondering if thats healthy...05:46
TMMStarScream, sudo apt-get install xfonts-base xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi05:46
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ndazzapr0tocol: not if you have a bird05:46
synicpr0tocol: you didn't install xfs fool05:47
bob2come on folks05:47
pr0tocolndazza: what if I have a yorky?05:47
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TMMpr0tocol, I'd say you just have a very unheatly fascination for birds05:47
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StarScreamTMM: yep, all newest versions05:47
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pr0tocolsynic: you omish princess, yes I did. I just did sudo apt-get install xfs not too long ago05:47
TMMStalwart, ok then05:47
Tobahow would you guys suggest installling wpa_supplicant and ndiswrapper from hard files?05:47
TobaI can't use synaptic05:47
yahalomlol05:47
TMMStalwart, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:47
Tobasince the laptop has no wireless until I install this05:48
Tobaany ideas?05:48
pr0tocolTMM: or it could be that my crotch just smells like bird food :P  Better than Canadian bacon, eh?05:48
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Kagome_006?05:48
synicpr0tocol: d'oh.05:48
Kagome_006XD05:48
StalwartTMM, don't ned it anymore, VIM rules ;)05:48
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Stalwartthanks anyway05:48
synicpr0tocol: byarg05:48
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pr0tocolsynic: what was that? I don't understand stupid too much05:48
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TMMpr0tocol, well, if I had a choice I'd rather have my crotch smell like meat than of dried vegetables05:48
synicpr0tocol: stfu :P05:48
pr0tocolsynic: :>05:49
StarScreamKagome_006: what the heck are you on (about) ?05:49
TMMStalwart, that was intented for StarScream05:49
dansthi I wanted to add flightgear to my App>Games menu! How do I do That?05:49
StarScreamTMM: ah ok05:49
TMMStarScream, sudo  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg05:49
TMMStalwart, sorry :) damn tab completion05:49
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ndazzaKagome_006: no05:49
TMMKagome_006, how about : NO scotty?05:49
pr0tocolTMM: *weighs meat and dried vegetables* I think dried vegetables, dude.  I wouldn't want my crotch smelling like some animal parts05:49
TMMpr0tocol, your crotch IS an animal part05:50
pr0tocolsynic: seriously, what is that byarg thing about?05:50
oamI enabled and set up a software raid5 during the install of ubuntu 5.10, it booted fine the first time. Then I did a apt-get upgrade world and it crashed during the boot after. Any ideas?05:50
pr0tocolTMM: ...05:50
TMMpr0tocol, or does yours more resemble dried vegetables? :)05:50
pr0tocolTMM: they say I'm hung like bull :P05:50
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pr0tocolso I would say animal05:50
ndazzaoam: got gentoo? hehehe05:50
synicpr0tocol: sucks.  I dunno - looks like everyone else in here is having the same problem05:50
pr0tocolTMM: I don't think I've heard anyone say "You're hung like a cabbage."05:50
StalwartTMM, anyway, vim owns ;)05:50
pr0tocolsynic: I know... it's sooooooooo gat05:51
oamndazza:Gues I should go back to gentoo, but I had to try ubuntu...05:51
TMMpr0tocol, I think you are a bit too late with that remark, we already established that it looks like dried vegetables, you said so05:51
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pr0tocolStalwart: of course vim owns.. You know whats better?05:51
StarScreamTMM: ok done, should i try and restart x?05:51
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TMMStarScream, that would be an extremely good idea05:51
pr0tocolTMM: I said it smells like one. *cough*05:51
ndazzaoam: the apt-get upgrade world gave it away. there's no 'world' in apt-get05:51
kuruis there any chance I can get a linksys wireless card (Model No. WMP54G-EU) working on ubuntu hoary ?05:51
pr0tocolStalwart: JEdit *looks over to synic*05:51
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TMMpr0tocol, AND you said you'd rather have it resemble dried vegetables than animalparts05:51
kuruor should I just grab breezy? or what?05:51
TMMKagome_006, we are quite happy here discussing genitals thank you :)05:52
synicKagome_006: you're really getting irritating.05:52
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pr0tocolTMM: lmao...you weren't specifying which animal parts05:52
sss_lrwhen i do apt-get install postgresql it says do apt-get -f install to coorect05:52
StarScreamTMM: k...sorry just i've done techsupport and i know it can be annoying when people pre-empt your step by step instructions05:52
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pittisss_lr: hoary or breezy?05:52
ndazzaoam: what went wrong? did you check dmsg to see what errors got thrown?05:52
Kagome_006grrrrrrrrrrr05:52
Kagome_006pls05:52
Kagome_006pls05:52
Kagome_006grrrrrrrrrrr05:52
Kagome_006grrrrrrrrrrr05:52
Kagome_006grrrrrrrrrrr05:52
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sss_lrThe following packages have unmet dependencies:05:52
sss_lr  MySQL-shared-compat: Obsoletes: MySQL-shared05:52
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pr0tocolsynic: oh well, guess I'll be stuck on console for the next month or so.05:52
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TMMStarScream, don't worry, I'm regularly helping annoying people like you ;) (you aren't annoying)05:52
funkyHatKagome_006, this isn't really the place for that, #1, not all of us hate windows, #2, joining a channel about it won't break windows, #3, shut up05:52
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pr0tocolKagome_006: umm05:53
ubotuwell, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth05:53
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othomaswell, breezy seems to work on Gateway Profile 3 computer..sure is different05:53
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pr0tocolKagome_006: stop SPAMMING!05:53
Kagome_006ah/!05:53
TMM*ANYONE* here got op?05:53
pittisss_lr: oh, then you indeed have to fix your packages first; just do the -f command05:53
Kagome_006kk05:53
gigaclonSTOP: IT05:53
firestormHowdy. I can't seem to install the 2.6.13 kernel image...is it in packages yet?05:53
TMMbob2, DO SOMETHING please05:53
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funkyHatlol05:53
jdubTMM: chill please :-)05:53
Kagome_006:/05:53
TMMCRAP05:53
thenukekagome needs some k-line or something05:53
pr0tocoluh oh... everyone has morphed into opers05:53
Kagome_006I SAID SRY05:53
TMMna' no k-line05:53
sss_lrwhen i do apt-get install postgresql it says do apt-get -f install to coorect05:54
TMMhe's just 13 or something05:54
StarScreamTMM: i think i might have just gotten more annoying..it doesn't seem to have worked05:54
jdubKagome_006: that's inappropriate here, please keep it nice.05:54
sss_lr  MySQL-shared-compat: Obsoletes: MySQL-shared05:54
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synicKagome_006: no, actually you didn't.05:54
funkyHatTMM, he shut up now, leave him be ;)05:54
sss_lrif i do apt-get -f install05:54
pittisss_lr: yes, just do so05:54
sss_lrit says05:54
netstarAnyone here running breezy?05:54
TMMStarScream, ok, now I'm going to be annoying, I am going to eat now05:54
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ndazzasss_lr: whatever package is stopping the install, try dpkg --remove <that package>05:54
sss_lrThe following packages will be REMOVED:05:54
sss_lr  MySQL-shared bandmin05:54
TMMStarScream, sorry... back in about 20 I'd say, if you still have trouble I'll resume my helping, ok?05:54
StarScreamTMM: ok, thanks for your  help anyways05:54
othomasnetstar: i am05:54
sss_lri dodnot want to remove how to avoid this05:54
StarScreamTMM: i will try and stay05:54
netstarOn ppc?05:54
pr0tocolKagome_006: dude, you know...if this were a actual person-to-person live group thingy, you would have gotten jumped by every single person in here :P05:55
StarScreamthanks05:55
TMMStarScream, sorry05:55
TMMlater05:55
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StarScreamTMM: cheers for your time05:55
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ndazzasss_lr: probably something that's being installed conflicts with that package05:55
pr0tocolsynic: you upgraded to Breezy too?05:55
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sss_lrndazza : yes i guess but how to come out of it without removing?05:56
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pr0tocolsynic: what would happen if I put the the BusID to "0:0:0"?05:56
Amaranthhi05:56
ndazzasss_lr: i would try removing and putting it back later... maybe someone else has a more technical solution05:56
sss_lrndazza: thx05:57
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sss_lrndazza: *.* solution please05:57
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sss_lr*.* solution please05:57
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Krnekihay05:58
oamndazza: not that simple to get to the logs, i'd have to boot.. gentoo :P05:58
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Kagome_006sry guys05:58
Krnekii have question is there possible on ubuntu port forwarding on one other pc in home network05:58
oamndazza: it just freezes, then after some time, it shuts down05:58
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Kagome_006hey05:58
pr0tocolsynic: ?05:59
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Kagome_006does anyone have a copy of wine?05:59
GnonthgolTMM: I have taken a look into the problem and found out that I can send the SYN and gets the SYN, ACK but then nothing happens05:59
synicpr0tocol: yes I have, and had problems with X booting on all three machines.  All 3 times it was the kbd or the xfs thing.05:59
apokryphosKagome_006: please don't do that again; flooding can be very irritating.05:59
Kagome_006kk05:59
Kagome_006but.05:59
Kagome_006does anyone have a copy of wine?05:59
oamndazza: there's apparently something borked.05:59
synicKagome_006: apt-get install wine.05:59
Amaranthgtg05:59
Kagome_006\/me has no internet05:59
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pr0tocolsynic: no I'm saying that what if I change the BusID to "0:0:0"?05:59
ndazzaoam: without logs or error messages it's hard to know what's going on...05:59
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synicpr0tocol: oh, I dnno about that.05:59
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ndazzaoam: i think that's a pretty good analysis yes :)05:59
synicKagome_006: obviously you have no internet.05:59
funkyHatKagome_006, get wine from wine.sourceforge.org06:00
pr0tocolsynic: lol... you mean that it's a bad idea...or more like you don't know06:00
Kagome_006no cd burner06:00
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synicpr0tocol: I don't know06:00
pr0tocolsynic: gonna try it06:00
Kagome_006.:mp3:. !Kagome_006 TLC - Girl Talk .mp3 :3m 40s::stereo::128kbps::3.34mb: sonica06:00
pr0tocollets see what happenes06:00
__Caleb__damn tons of peeps in here06:00
pr0tocolhappens**06:00
__Caleb__ummm ok06:00
funkyHatoh dear...06:00
GnonthgolI can send the SYN and gets the SYN, ACK but then nothing happens, anyone?06:00
__Caleb__i have a small problem06:00
dcravenI smell mirc06:00
Kagome_006yes06:00
funkyHatKagome_006, we don't need to know what you're listening to thanks :)06:00
synicKagome_006: you're very new to this whole.... linux thing, aren't you?06:01
Kagome_006[Kagome (Beta)]  Edited By - B|ueFire - Created by Kagome.06:01
Kagome_006yes06:01
__Caleb__when i use the ubuntu install cd i get an error trying to install binutils06:01
dcravenFunny how the cultures differ eh?06:01
pr0tocolheh06:01
__Caleb__im thinking its cause the cdrom on it is crap06:01
Kagome_006i love mirc06:01
pr0tocollinux thing06:01
Kagome_006thats why i need wine06:01
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pr0tocolKagome_006: mirc? lmao06:01
__Caleb__mirc blows balls06:01
__Caleb__learn to use xchat06:02
Kagome_006O_O\06:02
synicKagome_006: I suggest you learn a little IRC etiquettte06:02
pr0tocolKagome_006: are you on Winblowz right now?06:02
Kagome_006xchat sux06:02
CryptidVideos Keep lagging when i play them in Totem Video player this only happens with .avi and DVDs what do i do to fix the problem06:02
ndazza__Caleb__: if it pauses at the same time every time, it's probably not the drive06:02
Kagome_006yes06:02
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__Caleb__no06:02
pr0tocolMirc does indeed blow much balls06:02
__Caleb__its gives me an error06:02
GnonthgolKagome_006: I have tryed mirc in wine and it works06:02
Kagome_006:P06:02
Kagome_006so06:02
__Caleb__saying its the install cd06:02
Kagome_006mine doesn't06:02
__Caleb__and that i might need to lower my burn speeds06:02
pr0tocolas a matter of fact *looks over to TMM* it blows MY vegetable balls06:02
ndazzawow that explains a lot06:02
synicKagome_006: ok... so you need wine so you can run mirc at home where you have no internet?06:02
Kagome_006no06:02
funkyHatKagome_006, you don't have the internet, so what good is mIRC?06:02
Kagome_006i have internet now06:02
__Caleb__but06:02
Kagome_006i need dail up setup06:03
Kagome_006i got it06:03
Kagome_006now i need wine06:03
GnonthgolI can send the SYN and gets the SYN, ACK but then nothing happens, anyone?06:03
__Caleb__im on the livecd now lol06:03
ndazzaKagome_006: if you have internet, then apt-get install wine06:03
GnonthgolKagome_006: www.winehq.com06:03
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Kagome_006no phone06:03
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__Caleb__all i want is the server setup like the one thats on the install cd06:03
ndazzaGnonthgol: ACK <-- there you go :)06:03
__Caleb__the base system06:03
Kagome_006lol06:03
ndazzaGnonthgol: what sends the SYN where?06:03
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Kagome_006^phone06:04
Kagome_006.:mp3:. !Kagome_006 Tommy Tutone - 8675309 Jenny.mp3 :3m 50s::joint stereo::160kbps::4.38mb: sonica06:04
__Caleb__stip that please06:04
__Caleb__stop06:04
funkyHatKagome_006, you are clearly connected to the internet right now, so why do you need to set up dial up?06:04
Gnonthgolndazza: My ubuntu on the internet (not on the lan)06:04
Kagome_006216-867-5309 is my celly06:04
__Caleb__someone might bring out the ban06:04
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ndazza__Caleb__: check the cd is ok06:04
funkyHatand PLEASE turn that script off06:04
Kagome_006@ home06:04
synicKagome_006: ID10T06:04
BelutzKagome_006: could you turn off the mp3 script please?06:04
apokryphosKagome_006: what are you doing?06:04
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Kagome_006w/e06:05
ndazzaGnonthgol: that's sending the SYN? to where?06:05
Kagome_006 \ineed wine @ home06:05
__Caleb__the cd is fine06:05
Kagome_006bbl;06:05
dcravenHurry back.06:05
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seethruanyone in here running Breezy w/ a SB Live! Value?06:05
seethrudriving me nuts trying to get it to work06:05
Gnonthgolndazza: its sending the SYN to anyware on the internet06:05
synicseethru: getting repeated sounds?06:05
pr0tocolsynic: do me a favor, look at your xorg.conf file and tell me what you have for your local font server path (i.e. unix/:7100)06:05
__Caleb__brb06:06
synicpr0tocol: same06:06
CryptidSome 1 PLZ HELP ME! Videos Keep lagging when i play them in Totem Video player this only happens with .avi and DVDs what do i do to fix the problem06:06
ndazzaGnonthgol: and then anywhere sends back a SYN,ACK and your machine doesn't send an ACK?06:06
pr0tocolgod damn it06:06
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pr0tocolI need to FIX this crap otherwise I'm going to go NUTS!06:06
Gnonthgolndazza: I have tryed any ips on servers I know is up06:06
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Gnonthgolndazza: yes06:07
ndazzaCryptid: make sure you aren't using the vesa driver in X06:07
Gnonthgolndazza: I just dissapears06:07
ndazzaGnonthgol: erm. something's wrong with TCP or something...06:07
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ndazzaso does the ACK leave the machine?06:07
ndazzadoes DNS work?06:07
ndazzaor any other UDP-based app?06:07
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Gnonthgolndazza: yes, yes06:07
dazjorzHeya :)06:08
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dazjorzanyone knows if there are drivers and programs for Creative webcams ?06:08
sambagirlubuntu has the most beautifully screen savers! wow!06:08
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pr0tocolsynic: do you need to have "dri" enabled in the modules section?06:08
dazjorzheh06:08
dazjorzsambagirl: I like the The Matrix one ;)06:08
Gnonthgolndazza: but I have to network cards & dhcp = same ip06:08
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ndazzaGnonthgol: well there u go problem solved: just layer TCP over UDP! :p06:08
sambagirli just look up and seeing spider web tunnel06:08
ndazzaohhhhhhhhh06:08
ndazzawell that might do strange things06:09
dazjorzwho is the currently working dev here ?06:09
ndazzacould be confusing switches or things on the network path06:09
dazjorzI mean, now ?06:09
ndazzachange the IP of one of the machines06:09
seethrusynic: sent you a message so it doesn't get lost in all this text06:09
Gnonthgolndazza: but I would like using dhcp on both at the same time06:10
dazjorzok, as usually, nobody's answering the first time you ask a question...06:10
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ndazzadazjorz: you gave it 55 seconds06:10
Gnonthgolndazza: It works06:10
pr0tocolhow do I disable the nvidia logo again?06:11
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ndazzaGnonthgol: that's great06:11
dazjorzndazza: you know the answer ?06:11
seethrupr0tocol: Option "NoLogo"06:11
ndazzapr0tocol: don't remember, it's in the nvidia readme tho06:11
Gnonthgolndazza: but I would like to use dhcp on both06:11
ndazzadazjorz: nope06:11
ndazzaGnonthgol: sudo dhclient06:11
dazjorzuhm, gonna ask it again then.06:12
PitOpenGL just went from hardware rendering to software rendering after an apt-get upgrade on hoary, without even restarting the X server06:12
PitAnyone had a similar problem?06:12
ndazzaGnonthgol: dhcp will assign a different IP06:12
dazjorzanyone here knows if there are drivers for Creative webcams ?/06:12
Gnonthgolndazza: but my dhcp server wont06:12
Pit(I'm using an ATi card)06:12
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dazjorzPit: why is that a problem .?06:12
seethrudazjorz: http://opensource.creative.com/webcam.html06:12
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Pitdazjorz: Because it's rather hard to play modern games with software rendering?06:13
oamndazza: beer time, I'll have another look at it tomorrow.06:13
dazjorzseethru: ah thanks dude :)06:13
ndazzaGnonthgol: you will probably need to work around the limitations of your DHCP server then06:13
ndazzaoam: good luck06:13
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dazjorzPit: That explains :)06:13
oamluck has nothing to do with it, it's how many beers you get down that counts :P06:13
ndazzaGnonthgol: you could try configuring your DHCP server to give out a specific IP address for a given mac address06:13
ndazzaGnonthgol: or turn the damn thing off and run a proper one from the linux box06:13
dazjorzPit: OK, just wanted to know that. Hardware rendering is btw causing few problems with my NVidia FX card06:14
dazjorzPit: when using several settings...06:14
ndazzaoam: happy drinking then :)06:14
Pityeah, but my hardware rendering had been working for a long time06:14
Cryptidndazza, i am new to linux will please explain what is vesa driver and how to check if i have it and if i dont how do i get it06:14
Pitjust suddenly stopped06:14
Gnonthgolndazza: I already got one up, but my dad wont let me use it06:14
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seethrupit: did you check your xorg.conf to make sure nothing mysteriously changed? ;)06:15
sambagirlcan there anyone who can help me sometime to install Freemed? it is medical practice open source thing.06:15
ndazzaCryptid: examine the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and look for a line that says driver="vesa"06:15
sambagirlnot today but sometime06:15
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ndazzaCryptid: if you see that line you're gonna need to replace "vesa" with the right driver for your hardware06:15
sambagirlanyone here in medical field?06:15
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Pitseethru: this happened without a restart of the X server06:15
Pitso I don't see how xorg.conf could affect it06:16
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ndazzaGnonthgol: ok, so why do you need DHCP? it seems like it's been configured to only dish out one IP address or something else strange06:16
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pr0tocoldamn...damn06:17
Gnonthgolndazza: It probably goes after the hostname06:17
seethrusynic: you here?06:17
pr0tocolhas anyone got their Nvidia cards working in Breezy?06:17
pr0tocol?06:18
seethrupr0tocol: yes06:18
pr0tocolseethru: what kind of card do you have?06:18
seethru6800gt06:18
pr0tocoloh damn06:18
netstarpr0tocol, yes but X sucks06:18
pr0tocolI have a 5200 FX06:18
Bateau_hey! i installed ubuntu on my laptop... and i worsk greate :D but, i want to connect this other monitor to it. and it wont start when i press FN+"the other screen button". it just stays black, but the power button keeps shining green. how can i get it to work?06:18
pr0tocolnetstar: X sucks why?06:18
netstarpr0tocol, me too06:18
sambagirli am going to download Freemed it has listed types of .deb .rpm .bzw .gz which one suggested i downloaded? i running ubuntu. this is medical practice open source software06:18
StarScreampr0tocol: i think X is b0rked at the mo06:18
pr0tocolStarScream: lmao06:19
seethrusambagirl: always .deb06:19
netstarCPU load is WAY too excessive06:19
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sambagirlokie dokie06:19
sktrdiehello all06:19
sambagirlthank you06:19
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sktrdieI'm having trouble apt-get installing VLC06:19
pr0tocolnetstar: ah, so you don't have it working either huh?06:19
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sktrdieit says that there are unmet depndencies: and  some packages06:19
seethrusambagirl: then run sudo dpkg -i filename.deb wherever you downloaded it to06:19
sktrdiebroken packages06:19
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CronicHow do I reconfigure X?06:19
CronicUsing dpkg06:19
pr0tocolCronic: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:20
_van_netstar you have FX5200 and you got it working with breezy?06:20
seethrupr0tocol beat me!06:20
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skwashd-laptophi all06:20
pr0tocolseethru: um? lmao ok06:20
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seethruok now seriously...anyone here with a SBLive! Value and Breezy?06:20
Cryptidndazza, i found driver under the section Devices and it says "Driver i810" no what do i do06:20
skwashd-laptopi have just switched a server from sarge to breezy beta ... everything is looking pretty good so far ... except ...06:20
pr0tocolseethru: I have SBlive Value06:21
seethrusound is working?06:21
netstar_van_, yes06:21
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StarScreamskwashd-laptop: why would you switch a server to breezy?06:21
pr0tocolseethru: working perfectly in console06:21
seethrulol06:21
pr0tocolnetstar: you have it working seriously?06:21
netstar_van_, does this surprise you?06:21
sktrdiecan anyone help me?06:21
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skwashd-laptopcups doesn't allow me to do any admin functions thru the webgui ... which on the desktop is fine ... but i am not installing gnome just for the printer admin on the server06:21
ndazzaCryptid: ok you have the right driver then, you might need to update your w32codecs06:21
netstarlet me just quadrouple check06:21
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pr0tocolnetstar: what the hell did you do?!? I have the same card and I CANNOT get X to work06:21
_van_no i'm just interested..coz i have F5200 also...and downloading breezy now06:22
netstaryep, that's the model06:22
_van_and it would be great if you told us what did you do06:22
skwashd-laptopStarScream: cos ldap in hoary is useless ... record uptime for me over the last 4 weeks has been 52hrs06:22
netstarHowever, X is slow with it.  I'm not happy with the performance.06:22
StarScreamskwashd-laptop: couldn't just apt-pin ldap?06:22
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synicseethru: yes06:23
pr0tocolnetstar: yea ok great. what did you do to get it to work?06:23
Cryptidndazza, i just downlaoded w32codecs 2day so i think they are the latest, :-( now what do i do. i dont want my frndz to laugh at me for switching from Windows to linux06:23
CronicThanks guys.06:23
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CronicNow how can I fix my resolution?06:23
CronicIt's only showing up at 640x48006:23
skwashd-laptopStarScream: well the 3 desktop machines i have running breezy are working fine06:23
CronicUnder X I see the screen res option, but it only gas 640 as an option06:23
skwashd-laptopStarScream: i once ran samba on sid in production for about 12mths ... that was fun :)06:23
seethrusynic: sent you a pm to avoid adding more text to the channel06:24
netstarjust use the stock nv driver06:24
pr0tocolnetstar: not the nvidia?06:24
synicseethru: I didn't get one06:24
dazjorzhey what's the device name of my webcam ? It's a Creative NX Pro06:24
skwashd-laptopanyway ... back to the real problem ... how do i get around the no admin thru the webgui problem?06:24
_van_but then there'll be no 3d acceleration, or am i wrong?06:24
netstarthere are no nvidia drivers for this model on ppc6406:24
netstarright06:24
pr0tocolppc6406:24
StarScreamhaha06:25
StarScreamthat was amusing i was waiting for something like that06:25
pr0tocolsee, when I try to use the nv module  it gives me a fatal server error indicating that no screens were found...06:25
StarScreamnetstar: nice g5!06:25
seethrusynic: alright, will add text then. Not getting repeating sounds, not getting any sound, or any errors when trying to play any sounds. Modules are loaded correctly, and the Analog/Digital Output on alsamixer is turned on :)06:25
ndazzaCryptid: hehe oh i see. get the ones from mplayer.org and see if they're any better06:25
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synicseethru: I had the same thing happen... had to go through all the channels and make sure they weren't muted - even if I didn't think one of them mattered.06:26
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synicseethru: dunno which one fixed it... but it works now.06:26
netstarIt's alright, problem is that X has high CPU load which means the fan control I only recently got working for this imac is useless because it's up HIGH06:26
Bateau_I want to connect this other monitor to my laptop. so i press FN+"the other screen button", but nothing happens. it just stays black, but the power button keeps shining green, indicating it got som sort of signal. how can i get it to work? help me please :)06:26
seethrusynic: weird, so unmute everything?06:26
dazjorzhow to look at what my webcam (Creative NX Pro) shows me?06:26
mimi've windows xp installed on hda1, if I install breezy preview, will it configure a boot loader, that lets me choose which OS to run when booting06:26
dazjorzI already installed the drivers.06:26
synicseethru: yeah06:26
pr0tocol...06:27
funkyHatdazjorz, where did you find the drivers for it?06:27
pr0tocolI do not wanna go back to windows...06:27
Cryptidndazza, are they ne diffrent from the w32codecs that are present in synaptic06:27
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dazjorzfunkyHat: Link on Creative's website, pointing to: http://zc0302.sourceforge.net/06:28
seethrusynic: alright, will play with that, ty06:28
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synicnp06:28
holycowguys, anyone know how to tell samba that it's not the master browser for the domain?  this is on a workstation and it seems to be on by default which it shouldn't06:28
seethrusynic: you using analog output or the digital one? (last question)06:28
funkyHatthanks dazjorz :). i searched loads but didn't think to check creative's website lol06:28
synicseethru: analog06:29
dazjorzfunkyHat: Check this: http://opensource.creative.com (A)06:29
pr0tocolyo synic, you said you havent upgraded yet, right?06:29
synicpr0tocol: I have, on all three machines06:30
Cryptidi Have a Acer S2W 3300V Scanner, It does not get detected by Ubuntu What do i do06:30
dazjorzsearch drivers :)06:30
pr0tocolsynic: gonna restart...see if THAT does anything06:30
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pr0tocolsynic: you didn't see anything wrong with my log?06:30
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synicpr0tocol: no06:31
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pr0tocolhmm06:31
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manjiwhat is mplayer listed as in the apt repositories?06:31
dazjorzhow to tell xawtv to listen to my webcam ?06:31
DarkEagleI tryed install upower but it got error that I have not correct version of libgcc1 , (my 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 , needed: 1:4.0.0-7 -- For me it looks same, only thing is that my looks like for ubuntu) What should I do?06:31
pr0tocolmanji: mplayer-x86 (x being your chipset)06:32
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pr0tocolmanji: for example mplayer-38606:32
manjiokay, thanks06:32
pr0tocolnp06:32
sktrdieguys06:33
synicgirl06:33
TMMthat 'someone else' thing in xscreensaver is a well... lifesaver :)06:33
manjipr0tocol: it seems to not be there, though06:33
pr0tocolsynic: you know what I rhink ir is06:33
TMMI wonder if it works for multiple X sessions as well06:33
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sktrdieI need to reinstall totem06:33
sktrdiebut if I do apt-get remove totem it says that it will also download my desktop06:33
sktrdiesynic: guys=ppl06:33
pr0tocolmanji: are you using any backports?06:33
synicpr0tocol: ?06:33
pr0tocolsynic: God and Linus Torvalds hate spics06:33
w-the-cis anyone familiar with dri or 3d hardware acceleration on a laptop with ati FireGL?06:33
Bateau_where is the file to edit monitor settings?06:33
syniclol06:34
manjipr0tocol: no, although i am not exactly clear as to what backports are06:34
pr0tocolmanji: hmm06:34
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entvexhow to install a .deb :)06:34
StarScreamTMM: heya, don't suppose i can trouble you for a little assistance again...i've still not had any luck with my X06:34
Tobais there an alternative to nautilus?06:34
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manjipr0tocol: it just can't find the package06:34
w-the-csudo dpkg -i <packagename>06:34
pr0tocolmanji: search google for hoary backports (or whatever version of UBuntu you have now)06:34
Tobabecause it's been freezing on me06:34
Tobaand I can't take it anymore06:34
StarScreamToba: xfe maybe06:34
pr0tocolmanji: do   sudo apt-cache search mplayer06:34
entvexhow to install a .deb :)06:35
CryptidPlease Help ME!!!!!, I Have a Acer S2W 3300V Scanner, It does not get detected by Ubuntu What do i do06:35
TobaStarScream: I'll try that06:35
entvexhow to install a .deb :) pack06:35
w-the-centvex, sudo dpkg -i <packagename>06:35
StarScreamentvex: dpkg -i06:35
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Ulmihell06:35
Ulmio06:35
manjipr0tocol: doesnt find any relevant returns06:35
w-the-canyone have experience with fglrx?06:35
pr0tocolentvex: you know, not to be a jerky or anything, google IS your best friend you know ;)06:35
entvexw-the-c Thx :)06:35
synicmanji: ubuntuguide.org06:35
pr0tocolmanji, ok your using hoary?06:35
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w-the-cI'm having trouble coming out of stanby...  x freezes and I can't even do a Alt+Ctrl+Backspace to restart x...06:36
manjipr0tocol: breezy06:36
pr0tocoland you got x working...06:36
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pr0tocolYOU LUCKY BASTARD!!06:36
pr0tocolwell anyways06:36
TMMStarScream, sure06:36
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Echelon-Hhow can i make things run on startup with XFCE?06:36
funkyHatpr0tocol, X worked straight off for me :P06:36
funkyHatupgraded 2 days ago06:36
TMMStarScream, time to send over some stuff though, I'm going to need an lspci output, /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:36
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pr0tocolfunkyHat: what vid card do you have?06:37
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funkyHatnVidia06:37
funkyHatgeforce 406:37
pr0tocolFX5200?06:37
sambagirlwow you should see this screen saver, it's awesome. but you cant now cause i interrupted it. btw is there a way to access your desktop remotely like with windows products?06:37
funkyHatoh, this was about a specific video card06:37
funkyHatok lol06:37
pr0tocoloh...most people with GeForce 4(if not all) aren't having any problems06:37
StarScreamTMM: ok hang on a sec06:37
pr0tocolI, on the other hand, am...for using a Fx520006:37
w-the-csambagirl, you can use VNC...06:38
reiki_worksambagirl: VNC06:38
pr0tocoldamn the FX series...damn them to hell06:38
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sambagirlahh thanks06:38
sambagirlvnc06:38
w-the-csambagirl, but you can connect to a windows machine (only tested xp) and do remote desktop...  but tha'ts online linux to windows06:38
TMMhmmm06:38
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pr0tocolfunkyHat: I was telling synic earlier, that I bet had I not been a spic, it would of worked06:38
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pr0tocolfunkyHat: I'm thinking the newer kernels have spic-detection06:38
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TMMStarScream, just a sec, I'll be gone for a bit, want to test suspend to ram now06:39
funkyHatwhat's a spic?06:39
manjilol06:39
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pr0tocolfunkyHat: ...06:39
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pr0tocolfunkyHat: a hispanic/spanish person06:39
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funkyHatoh right. lolz06:39
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pr0tocolhehehe06:39
Bateau_where is the file to edit monitor settings?06:39
w-the-cfunkyHat, just google or wiki it... it's a racial slur06:39
J1nXhullo folx06:39
w-the-cBateau, you may be refering to /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:39
pr0tocolyes it is06:39
pr0tocola racial slur for me06:39
pr0tocoldamn kernels06:40
funkyHati live in the UK, we don't call spanish/hispanic people that :P06:40
entvexpr0tocol is you in here and helping alle day :) ?06:40
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Bateau_yes! thank you w-the-c :D06:40
pr0tocolentvex: realistically speaking -- no.  I'm in here waiting for someone to come up with a solution to my X problem06:40
StarScreamTMM: k, just let me know when yer back06:40
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pr0tocolentvex: but I help who I can..06:41
athlonIve lost the CD icon in my kubuntu desktop, I mean the icon that will show up in the desktop if you insert a cd. how do I re-enable it ?06:41
entvexpr0tocol ;) you nice whats you problem =?06:41
reiki_workpr0tocol: if it's an X problem... doesn't that mean it no longer exists?  like an x-wife ?06:41
DarkEaglehow do I install libgcc1 1:4.0.0-7 if I have libgcc1 1:4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 ?06:41
Bateau_hmm, there was this howto, to find your Horizsync and so on. but i cant find it again :/ any have the link06:41
pr0tocolreiki_work: ....why?06:41
pr0tocolreiki_work: why would you say that? lol06:41
J1nXdoes anyone know if the breezy badger has better wifi card support than hoary hedgehog??06:42
reiki_workpr0tocol: ok... maybe that was just another poor attempt at humor on my part :)06:42
pr0tocolreiki_work: hell no...as in X server problem...ya know "Can't get my card to work" sort-of-thing06:42
Echelon-Hhow can i make things run on startup with XFCE?06:42
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pr0tocollol @ reiki_work06:42
neighborleesince last update my sound on login is musted and alsamixer of course fixes it..what is causing this and what alsa command (  know its something about 'store' ) keesp the settings of subsequent boots ? ;-)06:42
reiki_workpr0tocol: actually I knew what you meant.... :)06:42
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apokryphosEchelon-H: you might have more luck in #xfce06:42
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entvexpr0tocol have you try ro re install X from init level 3 ?06:43
pr0tocolentvex: ?06:43
DarkEaglecan somebody send me "libgcc1" version 1:4.0.0-7 ?06:43
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J1nXI currently have hoary installed and its not even detecting my  netgear wireless card i was wondering if there is a better chance that breezy would06:43
entvexpr0tocol im new to Ubutu but not to x06:44
TMMok06:44
TMMshort answer: hibernating still doesn't work for me06:44
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TMMI never had it working, ever06:44
entvexpr0tocol do you know init ?06:44
TMMso that is not a big surprise06:44
StarScreamTMM: http://pastebin.com/36467106:44
funkyHati wonder if it works here....06:44
pr0tocolentvex: well, the thing is, I get to see the nvidia logo for like 2 seconds and then X just dies06:44
funkyHatmy machine would go down fine, but not come back up again06:44
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entvexpr0tocol what kernel ?06:44
pr0tocolentvex: I don't get any errors...whatsoever either from the logs06:44
entvexpr0tocol have you try to kille the logo ?06:45
Bateau_bah! :( i cant get my screen to work06:45
pr0tocolentvex: 2.6.12-8-38606:45
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pr0tocolentvex: yea I tried killing the logo, doesn't do much06:45
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TMMStarScream, now for a /var/log/Xorg.0.log06:45
ndazzaalright! breezy!06:45
TMMStarScream, please :)06:45
entvexpr0tocol :-/06:45
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izmaelishi there, is there some gmail checker for gnome?06:45
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Lethal-Rocksizmaelis, use a pop3 checker and read the gmail FAQ on pop306:46
ndazzadazjorz: for convenience you can use less /dev/cdrom and view it a page at a time06:46
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entvexpr0tocol ok im only word so is to re install it From init level 3 (from comando pront non grafik06:46
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dazjorzndazza: haha, it's unreadable anyway sooo ;)06:46
izmaelisLethal-Rocks, thnx for the tip, I totally forgot that gmail suport secure pop3 (-:06:46
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StarScreamTMM: tail -f -n 400  http://pastebin.com/36467506:46
Lethal-Rocksizmaelis, it's ok, they keep changed their spec anyway06:47
StarScreamlet me know if you need more06:47
dazjorzndazza: only a lot of ^Q's06:47
dazjorztry it06:47
pr0tocolentvex: I can't enter the graphic mode regardless06:47
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ndazzabtw the hoary -> breezy upgrade broke my X (thanks to TMM for the X config tips) and grub.conf06:47
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entvexpr0tocol ok is you doing a server install or normal06:47
pr0tocol?06:47
pr0tocolnormal06:47
entvexpr0tocol ok can you re configer X ?06:48
pr0tocoldid that too06:48
entvexpr0tocol ok :-/ cant help you mate sorry06:48
pr0tocolBreezy...I hope you get hit with a Tonka truck and die of stupidity!06:48
TMMStarScream, I'd really like the whole thing if it's all the same to you06:49
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timmowdoes anyone know if inotify is working in breezy?06:50
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Lunar_Lampi'm having issues with my wireless card on my pc - just tried setting it up - and installed the drivers etc - when i go to networking and fill in the options (network name, key, DHCP) ithe connection doesn't work06:51
timmowis it ndiswrapper?06:51
robotgeek!wireless06:51
ubotu[wireless]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards06:51
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Lunar_Lampi'm having issues with my wireless card on my pc - just tried setting it up - and installed the drivers etc - when i go to networking and fill in the options (network name, key, DHCP) ithe connection doesn't work06:52
StarScreamTMM: http://pastebin.com/36467906:52
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TMMStarScream, thanks :)06:52
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robotgeekLunar_Lamp: if you want someone to help, u need to give details of the wireless card etc06:52
StarScreamnp06:52
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Lunar_Lamprobotgeek, i am using ralink 2400 chipset06:52
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TMMStarScream, finially :)06:53
robotgeekLunar_Lamp: did u compile the drivers from source?06:53
pr0tocolanyone for the love of God...06:53
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TMMStarScream, two things, first: check if there are actually any files in /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc06:53
robotgeekpr0tocol: patience :)06:53
Lunar_Lamperm - i used tar files if that answers your question? i'm a total n00b06:53
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timmowcan anyone running breezy tell me if they have a /dev/inotify node?06:53
StarScreamTMM: yep, loads of .pcf.gz06:53
osfameronOdd.  Lock Screen doesn't work anymore06:53
pr0tocolrobotgeek: if you think using console for the last 4 days is patience lol then I don't know what is06:53
TMMStarScream, any fonts.dir file there?06:53
pr0tocolrobotgeek: you know what it's like switching terminals to play a song?06:54
pr0tocollol06:54
dazjorzcan anyone help me with this question that has nothing to do with Ubuntu ? you know the song "Ginny gets high" by "Daniel Powder" (although it sounds like that) How to spell the name of the maker ?06:54
StarScreamTMM: nope, but there is a misc dir in there06:54
robotgeekpr0tocol: hey...u don't need to do that..use screen06:54
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StarScreamTMM: which is quite odd06:54
TMMStarScream, there's WHAT?06:54
dazjorzOooooooooh sorry its "Jimmy gets high" by "Daniel Powter" haha06:54
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TMMStarScream, so you have a /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/misc dir?06:54
StarScreamTMM: yeh06:54
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dazjorzwoh00t06:54
robotgeekLunar_Lamp: did u use drives from http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page06:54
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TMMStarScream, false alarm, so do I :)06:55
StarScreamTMM: hehe06:55
louis_i just installed ubuntu !!! I love it I switched over from microsoft xp pro06:55
TMMStarScream, empty for you too?06:55
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StarScreamyeh06:55
robotgeeklouis_: awesome!06:55
louis_I'm so glad its free cause I wanted a legal os so much06:55
TMMStarScream, ok, give me 2 minutes, and I know what you must do06:55
StarScreamTMM: ok cheers06:55
louis_can anyone asist me in becomeing familar with this os06:55
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Bateau_ok, HOW do i use my other monitor? I want dualscreen!06:55
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Lunar_Lamprobotgeek, yes - i installed them just like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo?highlight=%28wireless%29 - but substituting 2500 for 240006:56
pr0tocolrobotgeek: you know anything about a Fatal Error "Caught signal 11"?06:56
robotgeekLunar_Lamp: hmm...i was abt to suggest you to do that same thing...06:56
louis_how do I install my printer software06:56
TMMStarScream, HA06:56
TMMStarScream, GOT IT06:56
robotgeekpr0tocol: nope, it sounds bad06:56
TMMStarScream, stupid linux06:56
sktrdieguys06:56
sktrdieeverybody06:56
darkheartpr0tocol What's in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?06:57
sktrdiethe packages for vlc on breezy are broken06:57
Lunar_Lamprobotgeek, i installed them ok - but when i tried to install raconfig - it didn't work06:57
sktrdiewhat should I do?06:57
TMMStarScream, in each subdir in /usr/share/X11/fonts (like misc/ but not misc/misc) do sudo mkfontdir06:57
louis_anybody in amerika?06:57
robotgeekLunar_Lamp: okay...i am gonna /msg you. okay?06:57
Lunar_Lamprobotgeek, sure :-)06:57
sktrdiethe packages for vlc on breezy are broken06:57
sktrdiewhat should I do?06:57
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TMMStarScream, also do it for /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID06:58
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pr0tocoldarkheart: I have NO errors there06:58
pr0tocolnone at all06:58
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pr0tocola few warning, which is common...but no errors06:58
pr0tocoldarkheart: I get to see the nvidia logo for a second, and then it just dies06:59
TMMStarScream, you won't get any output btw06:59
TMMStarScream, it's not supposed to give output06:59
sktrdiethe packages for vlc on breezy are broken06:59
sktrdiewhat should I do?06:59
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StarScreamTMM: ok done, restart X ?06:59
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darkheartpr0tocol Nice...something is fubar'd totally eh? That fatal error is the only output?07:00
robotgeekLunar_Lamp: sorry abt that, got disconnected. is it okay for me to /msg you?07:00
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MadeyeHola07:00
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Lunar_Lamprobotgeek, sure :-)07:00
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pr0tocoldarkheart: yup and a fatal IO error (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" thing07:01
funkyHatdazjorz, where did you find the drivers for it? it tells me to compile, but there doesn't seem to be a compile?:S07:01
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funkyHat*not where did you find, how didy you install07:01
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dazjorzfunkyHat: Uhm.. When you click the Webcam Support, then NX Pro, then you go to a page with a Downloads button, then click DOwnload Beta Release...07:01
funkyHatyeah i got that07:02
pr0tocolI think xorg is broken...07:02
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darkheartpr0tocol Sounds like you're gonna have to wait for the stable release to upgrade. Does nvidia have a .deb package for their latest driver? Maybe you can try uninstalling ubuntu's nvidia driver and installing that.07:02
skwashd-laptopfor anyone who comes across my question in the logs via google ... see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20176 for the solution07:02
StarScreamTMM: ok, still no joy sorry07:02
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darkheartpr0tocol Another option may be to uninstall xorg and install xfree8607:03
pr0tocoldarkheart: yuck xfree86?07:03
darkheartpr0tocol Might shed some light on the problem or at least give you X until stable comes out.07:03
pr0tocoldarkheart: I'm getting the nvidia logo, indicating that the nvidia module is working fine.  xorg is the problem07:03
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darkheartpr0tocol Well, I'm not saying you're wrong, but with such little error reporting, I don't know if you can assume that it's just xorg, though you are probably right.07:04
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pr0tocoldarkheart: whats the release for xorg in Breezy?07:04
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darkheartpr0tocol But if it is xorg, then you might have a chance with xfree86...and if that does work, then we know for sure that it's xorg07:05
darkheart!info xorg07:05
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sktrdieHow do I reinstall Totem?07:05
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darkheartpr0tocol I'll check, hold on.07:05
darkheartsktrdie 'sudo apt-get install totem'07:05
TMMStarScream, wtf...07:06
sktrdiedarkheart: that says that t is already installed07:06
TMMStarScream, please, put up the log file again (new one)07:06
StarScreamk07:06
darkheartsktrdie Okay, well, you could uninstall it then and install it...is that what you want?07:06
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sktrdiedarkheart: yea, but when  I do apt-get remove totem,  it says that it will remove even other packages instead of only totem07:07
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darkheartpr0tocol Looks like 6.8.207:07
sktrdiedarkheart: I dont want those other packages to go07:07
pr0tocolhmm07:07
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Will^Dravenw00t, i am on the ubuntu07:07
codomaniacWill^Draven: congrats.07:08
pr0tocoldarkheart: I know that a Signal 11 error is a "segmentation fault", indicating that the program accessed a memory location that was not assigned....but I don't know which program07:08
pr0tocolthat's why I'm assuming it's xorg07:08
darkheartsktrdie I don't know of an option to force it to skip dependencies (basically breaking things), but why does it matter? You're gonna reinstall anyway right?07:08
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darkheart!info xserver-xorg07:09
ubotuxserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-10 (hoary), Packaged size: 5322 kB, Installed size: 15220 kB07:09
!lilo:*! added http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#channelforwarding to reflect the informal network policy up to this point07:09
louis_can someone help me install my printer07:09
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louis_i did the obvious already07:09
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louis_and the basics07:09
louis_i cant seem to find my model in the add printer07:09
sktrdiedarkheart: it says that it will remove the ubuntu-desktop!07:09
louis_it shows up on add printer but my model # isnt there07:10
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StarScreamTMM: http://pastebin.com/36468607:10
darkheartpr0tocol Yeah, not easy to figure w/ no error-reporting, I suppose you could do a backtrace, but I don't know about that stuff =) the breezy xorg is 6.8.2-6407:10
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pr0tocolhmm07:10
darkheartsktrdie I think there is an option in Synaptic to 'reinstall'07:11
william_has anyone tried using xorg 6.9 or 7.0RC0 in breezy preview?07:11
Bateau_how can i get dualscreen?07:11
darkheartBateau_ Magically07:12
darkheartBateau_ You need to give a little more info.07:12
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Mischacan anyone tell me what command line I should use to start loadlin, have linux install from an ubuntu cd, and install it on a yet unformatted part of my harddrive (prim ide, master) ?07:12
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Bateau_i have a laptop. its a fujitsu siemens Lifebook. i want to connect another screen (21" Nokia 445Xi) to the laptop.07:13
pluffsyhello07:13
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william_hehe, siemen...  it sounds like semen...07:13
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darkheartMischa Doesn't the loadlin FAQ or documentation tell you?07:13
Maynothwhat do you guys think about autopackage07:14
pluffsyhow difficult is it to get gnome running from a server install in ubuntu? because when I made a server install dhcp clienting worked.07:14
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pluffsyis it just apt-get gnome ?07:14
Mischathe loadlin faq doesn't say what I should fill in after root=/dev/07:14
darkheartpluffsy Just do an 'apt-cache search --names-only gnome' and it will list the gnome packages.07:14
MischaI'm totally new to linux, so I don't know either07:15
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darkheartMischa Well, yeah...it looks like you have to specify what your root is, in other words, it's per-user.07:15
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darkheartMischa Why are you trying to install ubuntu that way?07:15
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Mischait's the only option left to me07:15
TMMStarScream, sorry, helping 2 people with X trouble now :)07:16
pluffsydarkheart: can I paginate that in some simple way?07:16
StarScreamTMM: np07:16
w-the-chas anyone used Xorg 6.9 or 7 RC 0??07:16
darkheartpluffsy yeah 'apt-cache search --names-only gnome | less'07:16
pluffsydarkheart: thanks a lot :)07:16
TMMStarScream, we are actually getting somewhre07:17
darkheartpluffsy Np..I could have told you what package, but I figure this way you'll know how to get it yourself next time =)07:17
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darkheartMischa How do you mean?07:17
Mischathe only way I can get my last remaining (external, pcmcia) cd drive started is by loading it with an additional command in config.sys and autoexec.bat. that drive will not load itself at boot time07:17
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pluffsydarkheart: great, but I don't know how to do the pipe symbol in terminal :( it's not alt-7 like on my mac :(07:18
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darkheartMischa LOL You are trying to boot from pcmcia CD-ROM?07:18
NSKwill this work? mysqldump -uroot drupaldb | tar -jcf drupaldb.sql.tar.bz207:18
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darkheartpluffsy It's shift+\07:18
Mischadarkheart, I knew before I tried that booting from it wouldn't work07:19
Mischabut installing may be a different story07:19
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MischaI wanna install it to a yet unformatted part of my hdd07:19
pr0tocolbbiab07:19
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darkheartMischa Installing from pcmcia on an old computer is such a pain..I did that with an old IBM thinkpad and mandrake. You might try googling to see if ubuntu has any disk images to load the cd-rom for installation (mandrake did).07:19
pluffsydarkheart: hmm it seems to be only a semi working swedish keyboard in linux. darn... well I'll search packages.ubuntu.com then I guess.07:20
Bateau_i have a laptop. its a fujitsu siemens Lifebook. i want to connect another screen (21" Nokia 445Xi) to the laptop. when i connect the other screen, the screen is black. and when i press the "change screen" (FN+F10) buttons. i can se the screen flicker, and i see some of my desktop. i want to run dualscreen, og clone screen. please help07:21
Mischato get the cd drive started, I must load the DOS shell kernel that the win98se bootdisk provides, and after that, loadlin is the only tool I could find so far that can be started from within a DOS prompt, to load a linux kernel07:21
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darkheartpluffsy It is just 'gnome'07:21
NSKwill the redirection work ?07:21
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darkheartMischa Well, what I was trying to say, is some distros provide a floppy image that you can write to disk and boot from that disk which will provide you with the drivers to load your cd-rom for the installation.07:22
dbzdeathhmmm i just installed amd64 ubuntu breezy and the /etc/init.d/networking script doesn't seem to work..it just freezes up i manually have to set my network cards up07:22
pluffsydarkheart: what I don't get is that when I search for gnome on packages.ubuntu.com it's in universe. shouldn't that be in the official packages?07:22
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mazemanhi all .... is there an SQL manager tool to access MS SQL DBs ??  thx07:22
dbzdeathcan someone help?07:22
darkheartpluffsy Hehe, I dunno..that's beyond me and sounds like bureaucratic crap.07:22
pluffsydarkheart: heh, alright. but after I sudo apt-get install gnome I could just type startx to get into gnome or will I have to make weird configs and stuff?07:23
Mischadarkheart, I did copy vmlinuz to my harddrive, and told loadlin that vmlinuz was the linux boot image07:23
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darkheartpluffsy I'm not sure, come back and let me know and I'll see if I can help =)07:24
Mischabut every attempt so far ended in a "Kernel panic" message07:24
darkheartMischa Yeah, that's not gonna work.07:24
pluffsydarkheart: thanks a lot07:24
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darkheartMischa http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26710.html I dunno, just a shot in the dark.07:25
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darkheartbrb07:25
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Bateau_is there no one that can help me? :(07:27
dbzdeathwhats the problem Bateau_ ?07:27
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w-the-cI'm running ubuntu breezy preview with ati's FireGL Mobility v3200 does anyone know if it might work better with 6.9 or 7.0 RC0??  I know it's unstable now...  but anyone tried it?07:28
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Bateau_i want to connect another screen (21" Nokia 445Xi) to the laptop.07:28
Bateau_dbzdeath: ^^07:28
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dbzdeathBateau_: ummm twinview?07:28
Bateau_yes07:28
Bateau_! :D07:28
ubotuBateau_: Do they come in packets of five?07:28
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StarScreamTMM: sorry, i gotta cruise in a min. Thanks alot for your help though, it is really appreciated07:29
peter_Please  help, i have just compiled intels acpi tool, but when i want to use it i get this errorpeter@ubuntu:~/sbs-cm-20050328$ iasl -d dsdt.dat07:29
peter_bash: iasl: command not found07:29
peter_why is that??07:29
Bateau_ubotu: huh?07:29
ubotuBateau_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!07:29
TMMStarScream, I can't figure out what can possibly be wrong now... no obvious errors07:29
dbzdeathBateau_: i think he wants one of the monitors... anyways... hmm twinview i have no idea sorry07:29
Answerubotu: tell Bateau_ about ubotu07:29
TMMStarScream, not anymore anyway :) we elimated a couple during the last thing07:29
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dbzdeathpeter_: try ./iasl -d dsdt.dat07:30
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Bateau_:P07:30
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StarScreamTMM: k, monitor refresh rates maybe?07:30
peter_bash: ./iasl: cannot execute binary file07:30
peter_no luck07:30
darkheartpeter_ iasl isn't in your path07:30
froggy25how do you configure a micro innovations webcam on ubuntu07:31
peter_but it is in my folder07:31
tritiumpeter_, is it executable?  You might need to chmod +x it07:31
TMMStarScream, no, I think you are just really missing that font for some reason... let me check what the file is called07:31
Bateau_dbzdeath: so, i cant get dualscreen, og clonescreen? :(07:31
StarScreamTMM: can i tell it to use a different one?07:31
froggy25can someone please help me07:31
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TMMStarScream, do you have a fonts.alias file in /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc ?07:32
dbzdeathBateau_: you can .. i'm just not sure how... at least you can with a nvidia card07:32
peter_tritium could u give me the exect command?07:32
dbzdeaththere is a readme on nvidia.com07:32
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Bateau_oh, i see. well, i dont have nvidia. i`v got intel :P07:32
Answerpeter_:  chmod a+x <filename>07:32
darkhearttritium I don't think it has to do with being executable or not.07:32
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dbzdeathBateau_: oh... well... google is your friend07:33
peter_It tells me thatr there is no such file! Weird07:33
StarScreamTMM: nope, fonts.dir but thats it07:33
darkheartBateau_ You can't use twinview if you don't have nvidia, and I was asking you earlier about your setup and you never replied. No one can help if they don't know what you are running.07:33
TMMStarScream, ok, that's it07:33
Madeyedarn, gaim wont run on breezy07:34
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Bateau_i did reply darkheart!07:34
darkheartBateau_ I'm sorry, I must have missed it.07:34
peter_anyone have en idea?07:34
Bateau_only, i didnt highlight you07:34
StarScreamTMM: how do i make a fonts alias then ?07:34
tritiumpeter_, is that file in your current directory?  Where did you download it to?07:34
holycowfark07:34
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holycowokay so anyone know how to set samba not to broadcast it self as the master dns server?07:35
peter_it is in my working directory. /home/peter/compiler07:35
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darkheartBateau_ Ah yeah, I see it in the log now. My co-worker has the same problem actually. I would suggest google, I'm sorry I don't have experience with the laptops, only dual monitors on a desktop.07:35
tritiumpeter_, and what does the command "pwd" return?07:35
Bateau_oh, oki. thanks anyway :)07:36
darkheartpeter_ I know what you are experiencing. I have had that happen also and I'm not sure what causes it. Try opening up another console and trying to run it there.07:36
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TMMStarScream, apt-get install --reinstall xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-scalable07:36
TMMStarScream, I *think* that would do it07:36
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peter_im trying07:37
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rtcmcould someone running current breezy post their /etc/readahead/readahead file in http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/?07:38
TMMhey, cool... how can I test that usplash thing?07:38
rtcmand btw, does anyone know how is that file generated?07:38
tritiumpeter_, and what does the command "pwd" return?07:38
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tritiumTMM, you're running breezy?07:39
TMMtritium, yeah07:39
tritiumTMM, sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.12-8-38607:40
StarScreamTMM: i love you!!07:40
StarScreamTMM: works!07:40
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Will^Dravenhmm07:40
darkheartholycow What's happening?07:40
peter_/home/peter/compiler07:40
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Will^Draveni just installed breezy, trying to setup cups, wont let me login...07:40
TMMtritium, ok, cool07:40
TMMtritium, 686 ok too?07:41
peter_no luck with terminal thing07:41
TMMtritium, pretty redundant question :) but still07:41
peter_why is it doing it!?07:41
tritiumTMM, yes, that should do it07:41
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tritiumand then reboot, of course ;)07:42
darkheartpeter_ I dunno man, but it drove me nuts too..When it happened to me, I didn't have the time to get it working.07:42
TMMtritium, o dear07:42
peter_could it be en error in the compilation?07:42
TMMtritium, cpio: ./for: Too many levels of symbolic links07:42
TMMtritium, don't tell me my initrd is hosed now...07:42
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peter_anyone07:43
darkheartpeter_ No, has nothing to do with that.07:43
tritiumTMM, that's from dpkg-reconfiguring it?07:44
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TMMtritium, yep07:44
peter_okay didnt think so07:44
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TMMStarScream, it works? :) good07:44
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tritiumTMM, did that happen for the 386 kernel, or just the 686?07:45
nightairBreezy Preview; is there a way to get it to install smp kernel right from the initial install. seems to be a very hands-off install with lack of choices, which was fine but I'd like smp i686 from the start not plain 38607:45
TMM386 in this case07:45
TMMturns out I hadn't installed the 686 afterall :)07:45
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rtcmnightair: no07:45
tritiumThat definitely should not happen, TMM.  I don't know what might have caused that.07:45
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NeloHello, I am trying to install ubuntu on la laptop without network access. the install hangs a 50% checking for repository connectiviy, could this be bypassed?07:45
TMMtritium, no kidding...07:45
nightairrtcm ok07:45
tritiumnightair, but it's easy to install after the fact07:45
TMMtritium, I wonder if I have edited the mkinitrd stuff or something...07:45
tritiumTMM, oh, really?07:46
TMMwell, I was experimenting with some stuff a while back07:46
nightairtritium, hi yes I installed it afterwards07:46
TMMbut I am pretty sure I put it back07:46
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darkheartpeter_ This probably won't do anything, but try 'sudo updatedb'07:46
rtcmNelo: you are not connected to anything? are you sure?07:46
darkheartpeter_ Then try running07:46
Nelortcm yeah...07:47
rtcmNelo: in the dhcp step it should have asked you about not finding network...07:47
Nelortcm will try it again..07:47
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Bateau_darkheart: i do get picture in bash! :D but not in X, that means there is just a refresh rate problem or something, right?07:48
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TMMtritium, I'll try reinstalling grub...07:49
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darkheartBateau_ That sounds like it could be a possibility, yes =)07:49
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Bateau_darkheart: indeed. but how do i sett that? :x07:49
tritiumdrobbins, Hello Daniel :)07:49
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drobbinstritium: hiya :)07:49
rtcmBateau_: bash doesn't get you a picture... the kernel framebuffer driver does :-)07:50
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darkheartrtcm I think he just meant he could see the console.07:50
Bateau_rtcm: oki, mybad then :)07:50
Bateau_yeah, what darkheart said... :x07:50
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Bateau_hihi07:50
rtcmBateau_: check in your xorg.conf07:51
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Bateau_rtcm: yes, there is a record there, Generic Monitor07:51
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TMMtritium, same...07:51
rtcmBateau_: 'man xorg.conf' check there for HorizSync and VertRefresh07:52
TMMtritium, it's probably got something to do with mkinitrd07:52
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tritiumTMM, yes, if you modified it, perhaps so.07:52
darkheartrtcm He's trying to set up dual displays on a laptop and a monitor07:52
TMMtritium, I checked, I haven't07:52
rtcmdarkheart: oh, that depends on the driver then07:52
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tritiumTMM, can you please try reinstalling linux-386, then?07:53
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darkheartrtcm =) Just thought I should fill you in. I'm not sure myself how to get what he wants working.07:53
tritiumTMM, i.e., sudo aptitude install --reinstall linux-38607:54
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TMMtritium, I tried with 68607:54
TMMfsck this, I'll try that too07:54
tritiumTMM, ok07:54
TMMdoes it matter if I use apt or aptitude in this matter?07:54
rtcmBateau_: what is your graphics card?07:54
tritiumTMM, apt-get is fine.07:54
darkheartTMM No, they are all ways to manipulate libapt.07:54
tritiumI'll be right back...07:55
TMMok07:55
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neighborleesince last update my sound on login is musted and alsamixer of course fixes it..what is causing this and what alsa command (  know its something about 'store' ) keeps the settings on subsequent boots ? ;-)07:55
TMMhmm07:55
TMMnow it's installing more07:55
TMMit shouldn't have done that07:55
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darkheart!tell neighborlee about alsa07:57
darkheart!alsamixer07:57
ubotudarkheart: I give up, what is it?07:57
holycowokay, tomboy rox07:57
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darkheartneighborlee I forget exactly, but it's like 'alsamixer conf save' or something to save it. Try running 'man alsamixer' for info.07:57
holycowwhat a great way to store notes07:57
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neighborleedarkheart, lol yeah I used to know but I've rarely  need to use it ;-)..ok thx07:58
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darkheartneighborlee =)07:58
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tritiumTMM, I'm back.07:58
TMMgood07:58
TMM:)07:59
TMMstill no change07:59
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tritiumlinux-386 should have pulled in other dependencies07:59
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TMMtritium, it did, but -reconfigure still screws up07:59
tritiumTMM, which package are you reconfiguring?08:00
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neighborleedarkheart, well this doesn't really apply to me..I can hear sound 'after' I re-enable and turh off mutes in alsamixer,I just can't get them to stick after a reboot..NP though  I will investigate further08:01
tritiumTMM, it may be necessary to file a bug report08:01
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nlindbladhello08:02
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Lethal-RocksI have a question. If I move a ubuntu install from this PC onto another, will I be able to get it working? I know I'd have to change my fstab but I'm not sure if there's anything else08:02
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TMMtritium, linux-image-2.6.12-8-38608:02
TMMtritium, I'm trying to reconfigure that...08:02
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tritiumTMM, if it fails, please file a bug report08:02
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CookedGryphonhi, does anyone know y i can't download some of the updates, the linux image ones, the open office ones and the firefox ones just keep failing08:03
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SpudULikeHi room. Can anyone help by telling me how to manually add a nameserver address to resolv.conf using the resolver utility?08:03
jessy#ubuntu.fr08:03
dbzdeathSpudULike: i'd just use a shell and type echo nameserver address >> /etc/resolv.conf08:04
darkheartneighborlee It's 'alsactl store' I think =)08:04
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jessyhello08:04
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ZaaccHello :) I was wondering, Could anyone please help me out with a Debootstrap error that I get during installation?08:04
SpudULikedbzdeath: Well, I've editied it in vi, but it keeps being overwritten by resolver08:04
jessycan someone tel me the canal for french ubuntu pleaase..??08:05
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TMMtritium, it fails...08:05
darkheart!fr08:05
ubotusomebody said fr was Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais08:05
CookedGryphonjessy, #ubuntu-fr08:05
dbzdeathSpudULike: thats because your using dhcp... which means your getting the info from a dhcp server on your network(usually your router)08:05
segfault!br08:05
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.08:05
TMMtritium, I'll see what it tries to do then, might as well provide a fix08:05
tritiumTMM, sorry.  I don't know the cause...08:05
jessymerci beaucoup a vous...08:05
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darkheartjessy du rien =)08:06
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dbzdeaththats better.. good ol xfterm4 :)08:06
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SpudULikedbzdeath: This is true, bt the router 'apears' to be giving an incomplete set of nameservers.  I am having trouble resolving things like us.archive.ubuntu.com08:07
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tombshi ppl08:08
dbzdeathSpudULike: ok well your router is configured wrong..08:08
Lethal-RocksCould anyone tell me how to use 3dwm as my wm?08:08
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dbzdeathLethal-Rocks: 3dwm? look any good?08:08
SpudULikeWhich is why I would like to force the nameserver address into resolv.conf08:08
Lethal-RocksI dunno, I can't use it08:09
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Lethal-Rocks3ddesktop is though08:09
dbzdeathSpudULike: either fix your routers config or statically configure your network interface08:09
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tritiumTMM, how up-to-date is your breezy?08:09
mindmedicSpudULike, there is also a way to override your ns in dhcp3.conf08:09
CookedGryphoni thought 3ddesktop was a bit naff08:09
Lethal-RocksHehe08:10
dbzdeathnaff?08:10
Lethal-RocksBut this is 3dwm I need help with now, not 3ddesktop08:10
CookedGryphonpointless, its easier to use the workspace switcher, and uses less resources08:10
dbzdeathmmmm08:10
mindmedicSpudULike, add this line to your network interface in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf08:10
CookedGryphonoh yeah sry Lethal-Rocks lol08:10
dbzdeathwhat do you use CookedGryphon ?08:10
mindmedicsupersede domain-name-servers <your dns ip>;08:11
CookedGryphonwhat for?08:11
dbzdeathCookedGryphon: wm?08:11
Lethal-RocksA WM, I assume08:11
CookedGryphoni jsut have a standard desktop atm08:11
SpudULikeAh dhclient.conf08:11
CookedGryphonso metacity i think is the wm...08:11
tritiumSpudULike, man dhclient.conf for lots of good info08:11
dbzdeathCookedGryphon: what do you normally use?08:11
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lundnerhey08:12
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Will^Dravenive got a floppy .dsk image, how would i write it to a floppy?08:12
dbzdeathWill^Draven: man dd08:12
CookedGryphondbzdeath, this, i tried the 3ddesktop and thought it was a waste of time, it was no easier to use, didn't even look impressive08:12
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SpudULikedhclient.conf08:12
Lethal-Rockslol08:12
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tritiumWill^Draven, use dd08:13
Myrtti<3 PostgreSQL08:13
mindmedicSpudULike, yes, after the "request" line for your network interface08:13
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pittiMyrtti: I can only agree :-)08:14
Will^Draveni did "dd if=sbootmgr.dsk of=/dev/fd0" and all the files on it show up as having invalid encoding and are horrible garbled08:14
Lethal-RocksSo I take it no-one knows how to use 2wm as a wm08:14
dbzdeathhttp://www.cs.chalmers.se/~elm/projects/3dwm/ bah where are the screenies!08:14
CookedGryphonLethal-Rocks, not really lol, dodes it come up as a different session type on ure login screen?08:14
Lethal-RocksNope08:15
Lethal-RocksIt it a window manager though...08:15
CookedGryphoni kno but they might have doe that neway08:15
CookedGryphonhave u logged out n back in again since u installed it>?08:15
Lethal-RocksMany times08:15
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CookedGryphonhave u tried running 3dwm --replace08:16
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Lethal-RocksI would, but I dunno where it's installed08:17
CookedGryphonis it not in ure path?08:17
CookedGryphonand if not go to search08:17
CookedGryphonand jsut search thru usr08:17
Lethal-Rocksthere's docs in /usr/share/doc and dpkg stuff in /var/lib/dpkg and a init.d entry08:18
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Lethal-RocksI'll try the rtfm method08:18
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dbzdeathanyone got any fast ubuntu repository mirrors handy? i think my mirror might be screwed08:18
CookedGryphonhave u tried reading the doc?s08:18
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Seveashi08:21
CookedGryphonhi seveas08:21
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Seveasnot too busy in here :)08:21
Lethal-Rockslol08:21
darkheartSeveas You missed it =)08:21
CookedGryphonhm, do u have any idea y certain updates feep failing? i'm tryign to get the firefox updates and the openoffice ones..08:22
Seveasguess so :)08:22
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Seveasif jdub and tritium are showing their powrs, disasters must have happened...08:22
darkheartSeveas I had to single-handedly stave off the masses with a fork08:22
nightswim?? root password08:22
darkheartSeveas Hehe..jk08:22
nightswim?root08:22
Seveasnightswim, you might try and ask your question...08:22
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SeveasCookedGryphon, what's the error?08:23
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CookedGryphonbad IP headers i think it was.08:23
Seveascheck your sources.list for bigus entries :)08:23
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CookedGryphonwell i'm using the sources.list that u posted on pastebin, so08:24
Seveasthat should work08:24
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Seveastry again and paste the complete error on the bin08:24
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darkheartSeveas Oh..I did have a question...another user was in here with an error, but basically, he couldn't execute a file in the current directory. It would return with 'no such file or directory'. I've also had that happen. Do you know what causes it?08:24
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ramagaeshi all08:24
ramagaesi've got a problem with the wireless connection. can anyone help?08:25
Seveasdarkheart, chmod +x ./thefile && ./thefile08:25
Seveasramagaes, no08:25
CookedGryphonSeveas, am doing08:25
Seveasyou dod not tell us what the problem is08:25
TMMtritium, my breezy is only a couple of hours old08:25
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Seveasso we cannot help :)08:25
ramagaesok. it seems that it gets disconnected randomly from time to time08:25
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Seveasthat's the boogieman in your router ;)08:26
darkheartSeveas No, it wasn't a permissions error, it was like Ubuntu couldn't find the file even though the path was specified (./file)08:26
ramagaesSeveas, :) I don't think so08:26
Seveasdarkheart, maybe a misspelling or forgot-to-escape-spaces error...08:26
Lunar_Lampi am following this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo?highlight=%28wireless%29  but with the 2400 not the 2500 chipset driver.  when i come to installing raconfig section, i do cd ~/rt2500-cvs-daily/Utilitys  and it tells me the file was not found - when i navigate to what i think it means - i get a HUGE error message wheni try to sudo qmake -o Makefile raconfig2500.pro08:27
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SeveasLunar_Lamp, 2400 isn't 2500, find proper instructions for your card...08:27
ramagaesSeveas, I'm running ubuntu from a laptop08:27
darkheartSeveas Nope, I'm sorry I can't reproduce the error right now (at work), but it was typed correctly. Anyway, I just thought you might know.08:28
Lunar_LampSeveas, i was advised that the instructions would work08:28
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ramagaesSeveas, I've wxp on another laptop. it does not loose connection. so it is not the router ;)08:28
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Seveasdarkheart, these are the only explanations that I can think of :)08:28
thrushramagaes: if you shut the laptop it will often turn off your wifi card..08:28
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Seveasramagaes, check /var/log/daemon.log - that's where the dhcp client logs08:28
SeveasLunar_Lamp, then ask the one who advised you that..08:29
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ramagaesthrush, i don't use to close the laptop08:29
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ramagaesSeveas, i'm checking it08:29
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lnxusrhola alguien que pueda ayudarme'08:29
lnxusr?08:29
Seveas!es08:29
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:29
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ZeMiKeYHello! I'm running Breezy and having difficulties playing sound with my Creative card. Never used linux before. Can anyone help me?08:30
darkheartZeMiKeY Honestly, if you've never used Linux before, you should consider using a stable release.08:30
Lethal-RocksZeMiKeY, I agree with darkheart08:31
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thrushZeMiKeY: no sound at all?08:31
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SeveasZeMiKeY, breezy and 'never used linux before' don't match...08:31
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darkheartZeMiKeY Of course, if you are just in it for the learning, I suppose it doesn't matter, but if you want a working system, consider changing. Stable Breezy comes out in only a few weeks anyway.08:31
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dcravenZeMiKeY: Could be as simple as muted channels. Try the "alsamixer" command in a terminal to check.08:32
ZeMiKeYHmm, okay, seems reasonable, darkheart. Yeah, only for testing out and learning08:32
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ZeMiKeYthrush: No sound at all08:32
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CookedGryphonSeveas, it wasn't just one type of error i was getting, here's the message for the ones that were failing to download (not quite all of them tho ) http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/221808:32
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alturigohi08:32
ramagaesSeveas, the only message i see that could be problematic is sit0: unknown hardware address type 77608:33
ZeMiKeYHmm, dcraven, all channels seems to be unmuted08:33
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strat50shi!08:33
Sonny_Wertzikcan someone tell me how to install smeg in hoarty?08:33
HappyFool!smeg08:33
ubotu[smeg]  a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.08:33
SeveasCookedGryphon, apt-get update08:33
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HiddenFlyis there a program i can see how much every program on this system uses bandwith, for both directions, and if possible, limit it (kb/s)?08:34
strat50sjust a question, I'd like to set some directories in the PATH when the computer starts... I've tried to add them in "PATH" variable in /etc/profile but this is not working...08:34
Lunar_Lampi am trying to perform a make, but when i do so i get a huge output that is so large i cannot see the start of it - how can i do this?08:34
strat50sany clue?08:34
Seveasstrat50s, /etc/bash.bashrc08:34
strat50sLunar_Lamp, make > log_file.txt08:34
HappyFoolstrat50s: for one user only?08:34
strat50sno08:34
strat50sI want it for everybody08:34
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Sonny_Wertziki got it from http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ but i cant get it to install08:34
Seveasstrat50s / Lunar_Lamp bad idea08:34
Seveasbetter do: make | tee nake_log08:35
dbzdeathis there any breezy backport mirrors that work???08:35
Seveasthen you can see it on screen too :)08:35
CookedGryphonHiddenFly, yes there is, let me find the link08:35
strat50sSeveas, I think if I add this in bash.bashrc PATH will only be loaded when running bash08:35
Seveasthere are no breezy backports yet...08:35
Sonny_Wertziktried  apt get no dice08:35
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dbzdeathah nuts08:35
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Seveasstrat50s, gdm config then :)08:35
strat50smmm08:35
thrushis there a way when I apt-cache search to tell the repo the package is from?08:35
strat50sSeveas, maybe when running gnome-session08:35
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alturigomy wireless usb dongle won't work if it is plugged at boot (I have to unplug-plug), logs says "device descriptor read/64, error -110", is there any way to fix it?08:36
HiddenFlyCookedGryphon: ok, thanks in advance :)08:36
strat50sI mean... there are some directories in the PATH by default08:36
HappyFoolstrat50s: you can add it to /etc/profile, and to /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf08:36
strat50sHappyFool, I've added it to /etc/profile and it's not working at all... I have to run /etc/profile and I don't want this08:36
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HappyFoolstrat50s: /etc/profile for console/ssh users, and gdm.conf for gui login; look for 'DefaultPath' in gdm.conf08:36
dcravendbzdeath: there is nothing to backport to breezy.. It's not even out yet.08:36
telliHi, i'm trying to install Ubuntu on my desktop. When its trying to install the "Base system" or what its called it makes an error. "The debootstrap program exited witn an error (return value 32). Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for details.08:36
telliAnyone who can help me? :)08:36
strat50sok08:37
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strat50sI'll try gdm.conf08:37
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alturigotelli, what does the log say?08:37
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telliWell, im a novice at Linux, its my first time, so I dont even know how to see the log :S08:37
Lunar_Lampstrat50s, i did what you said - and all that is in the textfile is: g++ -c -pipe -w -O2  -DQT_NO_DEBUG -I/usr/share/qt3/mkspecs/default -I. -I. -I/usr/share/qt3/include -o raconfigform.o raconfigform.cpp08:37
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Sonny_Wertziki get this error...... Package smeg is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:38
Sonny_WertzikThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or08:38
Sonny_Wertzikis only available from another source08:38
strat50smmmm08:38
HappyFoolLunar_Lamp: you might need to pipe stderr to the logfile as well08:38
Lunar_Lamphmm08:38
HappyFoolLunar_Lamp: try     make &> makelog.txt08:38
HappyFoolLunar_Lamp: I'm not sure how to do what Seveas suggested if doing that; may 'make 2>&1 |tee makefile.log08:39
SeveasHappyFool, make 2>&1 | tee make_log08:39
Seveaslol :)08:39
collusionuse >&08:39
HappyFoolheh ;)08:39
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darkheartSonny_Wertzik You need to add a repository.08:39
darkheart!tell Sonny_Wertzik about repositories08:39
CookedGryphonHiddenFly, sorry, i can't seem to find it, somebody told me a bout it a few days ago08:40
alturigotelli, without the log is difficult to help, but I had also trouble installing base system, my problem was that CD was corrupt08:40
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CookedGryphonHiddenFly, oh no wait, got it08:40
HiddenFlyCookedGryphon: np, feel free to pm me about it when you happen to find something about it08:40
Lunar_LampHappyFool, the error message is about 700lines long - how do i go about working out what the problem is?08:40
tellialturigo, PM ? :)08:40
HiddenFlyCookedGryphon: ok nice :)08:40
HappyFoolLunar_Lamp: look for the first one (i.e., start at the top)08:40
Sonny_Wertzikdarkheart,  ok i look at those repositories08:41
Sonny_Wertzikthx08:41
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HappyFoolLunar_Lamp: use 'less' or a text editor to view the file08:41
CookedGryphonHiddenFly, its not a native ubuntu app tho, its from the debian unstable, but i can't find a ubuntu specific one, so if ure careful it should b fine http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/wondershaper08:41
HiddenFlyk08:41
HiddenFlythx08:42
tellialturigo, what did you do then? :S08:42
HappyFoolLunar_Lamp: gcc errors should look like this:          <filename>:<line number>: error: <message here>08:42
CookedGryphondo u know how to install deb packages?08:42
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HiddenFlynope :D08:42
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CookedGryphonHiddenFly, sudo dpkg install (package name)08:42
HiddenFlyok thanks08:42
HappyFooldpkg --install i thought?08:42
cevizogluhow do I open multiple url's in firefox with one command?  " firefox www.ubuntu.com && firefox www.google.com &" will only take firefox to ubuntu.com08:42
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CookedGryphonHappyFool, HiddenFly sry typo there08:43
darkheartYeah it's dpkg --install or dpkg -i08:43
alturigotelli, first, check that the ISO was burned properly, and the the ISO you downloaded isn't corrupted either08:43
Lethal-Rockscevizoglu, try ; instead08:43
CookedGryphonHappyFool, darkheart i've been apt-getting too much08:43
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HiddenFlyCookedGryphon: actually, i can see this software on my synaptic08:43
CookedGryphonSeveas, i'm still having the download problem08:43
CookedGryphonHidden really? go 4 that one then08:44
CookedGryphonHiddenFly, *08:44
pluffsyI just installed server and wanted a gui. So I apt-get gnome. but startx doesn't work, no such file /usr/bin/X11/X so I guess it didn't install X11. I tried to search for x11 on packages.ubuntu.com but I didn't find anything called that. what should I search for and are there anything else I need to install to get gnome working?08:44
HiddenFlyyea i do :)08:44
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tellialturigo, okay i'll try08:44
lizardkinghello08:44
thrushpluffsy: type gdm08:44
lizardkingsome help  form  me and my laptop?08:44
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tellialturigo, can we write in PM ? :)08:44
steven_Laptop? how do I stop the time scanning at boot up? I only want it to use the system set time...08:44
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alturigoalturigo, I'm querying you ...08:44
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alturigotelli, I'm queying you08:45
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lizardkingsome help  form  me and my laptop?08:45
telli:)08:45
AzMooHow can I change the port that gnome bittorrent uses?08:45
pluffsythrush: thanks08:45
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cevizogluLethal-Rocks: this command will open firefox at ubuntu, and when I quit firefox will then open it again in google:  "firefox www.ubuntu.com;firefox www.google.com &"08:45
nox_ghosthow to compile a package using apt ?08:45
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cevizogluLethal-Rocks: but never mind, I will found out how to do it from firefox's gui08:45
Lethal-RocksTry '& ;' then, which is what I meant ;)08:45
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lizardkingapt are already compiled08:46
lizardkingU must install program with08:46
Sonny_Wertziki have the smeg .deb file how do i install it....please/08:46
kwilcoxyou don't compile anything with apt08:46
cevizogluLethal-Rocks: er, I mean I found out how08:46
Lethal-Rockslol08:46
alturigotelli, omg, I can't query because Im not registered...08:46
lizardkingsudo apt-get install program08:46
telli:S08:46
HappyFoolnox_ghost: maybe 'apt-get source --compile' ? read the apt-get man-page for more08:46
CookedGryphonSonny_Wertzik, sudo dpkg -i (package name)08:46
lizardkingsorry some help?08:46
telli#alturigo08:46
lizardkingplease08:46
CookedGryphonlizardking, what's the problem08:47
lizardkingok thnaks08:47
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lizardkinglook this08:47
CookedGryphonthen we'll tell u if we can help08:47
nox_ghostHappyFool, did it already. but how do i search the deb-src repos?08:47
lizardkinghttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6589708:47
HappyFoolnox_ghost: i'm not sure how to search only those, sorry08:47
lizardkingthis is my and other problems08:47
HappyFoolnox_ghost: maybe apt-cache showsrc ? (bit of a guess)08:48
lizardkinga lot of people have this problem08:48
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lizardkingand no answer in the forum08:48
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lizardking\name08:48
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cevizogluLethal-Rocks, firefox www.ubuntu.com & ;firefox www.google.com &   - gives me a syntax error next to the semicolon08:49
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CookedGryphonlizardking, sorry but i have no experience of this problem08:49
Will^Dravencevizoglu: what are you trying to do?08:49
lizardkingok why Urs messae are in red?08:49
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lizardkingmessage08:49
cevizogluWill^Draven, I'm trying to open two url's in firefox simultaneously from command-line08:49
Will^Dravensec08:50
CookedGryphonlizardking, cos i'm talking to u, and saying ure name, so it goes red to bring ure attention to it08:50
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CookedGryphonit doesn't go red if i don;'t say ure name08:50
Lunar_Lampi am reading an FAQ trying to work out why i'm having problems - and it says: "Ensure that you have the sources in the expected locations (/usr/src/linux-2.x.x) and that you have a symlink from /lib/modules/2.x.x/build to that source folder)" - how do i check this?08:50
lizardkingI must copy your name?08:50
CookedGryphonlizardking, eh?08:50
Answerlizardking: it highlights msgs containing your name in red, see ?08:50
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lizardkingCookedGryphon, i must copy your name with Control+c ora there is a tag08:50
cevizogludon't listen to them, lizardking08:50
lizardkinglike \name08:50
cevizogluj/k08:50
Sonny_WertzikCookedGryphon,  ok got it in thank U!08:51
lizardkingCookedGryphon, I see I see08:51
CookedGryphonlizardking, if u start typing Cookedgryphon then press tab it autcompleetes ion xchat08:51
CookedGryphonCookedGryphon,08:51
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CookedGryphonintersting it dunt go red if u say ure own name08:51
HappyFoolcevizoglu: over here      'firefox http://www.google.com & firefox http://www.yahoo.com&' opens two tabs with those two sites08:51
lizardkingCookedGryphon, beautilfiul08:51
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lizardkingCookedGryphon, cool like terminal08:52
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CookedGryphonexactly08:52
bytefooanyone have acpi experience08:52
lizardkingsome other help form me?08:52
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CookedGryphonbytefoo, i have experience of it not working ...08:52
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Lunar_Lampi am reading an FAQ trying to work out why i'm having problems - and it says: "Ensure that you have the sources in the expected locations (/usr/src/linux-2.x.x) and that you have a symlink from /lib/modules/2.x.x/build to that source folder)" - how do i check this?08:52
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bytefoomy laptop just won't poweroff08:52
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lizardkingmy problem is here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=352571#post35257108:52
bytefooit says it powers off, and quits and all but then hangs at "Powering Off."08:52
bytefoobut everything else works :D08:52
bytefooeven closing the lid :D08:53
HappyFoolLunar_Lamp: have you install linux-headers-386 (or similar) ?08:53
lizardkingI have same problem with NO fullscreen and games (frozen bubble)08:53
CookedGryphonbytefoo, does it want u to press the power button>08:53
Lunar_LampHappyFool, i think so - but how do i check?08:53
lizardkingcaused by ati08:53
bytefooCookedGryphon, I would think it would ask me  or tell me to press the butotn right?08:53
HappyFoolLunar_Lamp: use synaptic, it'll probably be easiest08:53
darkheart!tell lizardking about ati08:53
bytefooperhaps not though08:53
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cevizogluHappyFool, got it, I turned on the tab loading in prefs and your script worked08:53
HappyFoolLunar_Lamp: otherwise try       dpkg -l "linux-headers-*"08:53
lizardkingdarkheart, ati works08:53
CookedGryphonbytefoo, not if it thought it had already switched itself off08:53
lizardkingdarkheart, ati only I have that problem08:53
bytefoothat makes no sense :-/08:54
bytefoosince acpi doesnt work  taht way ...08:54
bytefoo:|08:54
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Makeehi! can anybody help me... Im trying to install ubuntu 5.10 for amd 64, but installation just halts when it gets to 25% complete. What is a problem?08:54
Deep6anyone have problems with the artwiz fonts in fluxbox?08:54
CookedGryphonbytefoo, bytefoo does ure laptop have al thermal management anf=d things set up?08:54
Earthenmy auto mount died can someone tel me how I can mount the cd rom from command line08:55
CookedGryphonbytefoo, cos mine jsut tells me the battery percentage and that's it08:55
CookedGryphonEarthen, mount /dev/cdrom08:55
bytefooyes i have all that set up08:55
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CookedGryphonbytefoo, did it do it automatically or did u ahve to do somethign to get it to work?08:55
bytefooautomatically08:55
EarthenCookedGryphon: thank you08:55
bytefoobut before, when asus didn't fix the DSDT table i had to do it manually08:56
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bytefooconfiguring lmsensors and such08:56
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CookedGryphonEarthen, np, did it work, sometimes u ahve to specify the filesystem08:56
bytefoothat was a while ago though08:56
Lunar_LampHappyFool, i have got them installe08:56
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HappyFoolLunar_Lamp: what are you trying to install?08:56
CookedGryphonbytefoo, interesting.. i'm jsut ho[ping its gna jsut work with breezy lol08:56
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Earthenwe it was actully a friend who wrote me an E-mail so i don't really know08:57
bytefoomaybe08:57
Earthen:-/08:57
bytefoobreezy didnt detect oen of my desktops network cards08:57
bytefoobut hoary did08:57
nox_ghostwhen i do "checkinstall" - a .deb file is created. when i install it, will i be able to remove it in the future by "sudo apt-get remove <pkg>" ?08:57
bytefooso it's a crapshoot :O08:57
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CookedGryphonEarthen, well tell em to do man mount and read up on it08:57
Lunar_LampHappyFool, trying to configure wireless drivers for wireless card - trying to sort out installing the RaConfig08:58
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Whistlerhi08:58
EarthenCookedGryphon: all he told me was that he broke his auto mount08:58
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Whistleris ati drivers still broken in breezy?08:58
pvanhoofwhat package contains the graphical boot in breezy?08:58
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funkyHatusplash08:59
Earthenhow do you type massage to me that make my X-Chat beep08:59
HappyFoolLunar_Lamp: ok, you should have a symoblic link at /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build08:59
funkyHatit has your name in it Earthen08:59
deFryskpvanhoof, asplash08:59
deFryskI think08:59
pvanhoofasplash and usplash? :)08:59
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pvanhoofwell08:59
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deFryskusplash sorry ;s08:59
pvanhoofit's not installed when upgrading hoary to breezy08:59
pvanhoofthat's a bug08:59
deFryskgeez08:59
funkyHatpvanhoof, it was for me08:59
HappyFoolLunar_Lamp: can you paste the first 10 or 20 lines of the make output to the pastebin ?08:59
pvanhoofadding it to bugzilla08:59
EarthenfunkyHat, O ok09:00
Lunar_LampHappyFool, the error is huge - but i'll try09:00
funkyHatpvanhoof, it may be managed by ubuntu-desktop, have you removed that?09:00
HappyFoolLunar_Lamp: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl (just in case)09:00
deFryskpvanhoof, did you install ubuntu-base after ?09:00
EarthenfunkyHat, ty09:00
HappyFoolLunar_Lamp: try     head -20 makelog.txt09:00
funkyHatnp :)09:00
pvanhoofdeFrysk, dist-upgrade09:00
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deFryskpvanhoof, check if metapackage ubuntu-base is installed09:01
pvanhoofit wasn't installed09:01
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pvanhoofinstalling it :)09:01
deFryskpvanhoof, before you file bug09:01
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deFryskpvanhoof, usplash is part of ubuntu-base09:01
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pvanhoofoik09:01
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Lunar_LampHappyFool, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/221909:02
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sorush20anyone here been able to fix the profile lock on thunderbird I still haven't been able to fix it for a few months now..09:02
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Krnekihay09:03
HappyFoolLunar_Lamp: at a guess, you need the qt development libraries09:03
Krnekihow do i open sh files09:03
lizardkinghello09:03
lizardkingalways me09:03
cevizogluKrneki, with your favorite text editor09:03
funkyHatsorush20, delete the lockfile from your profile directory. (i'll just fire up tb so i can find the name of it)09:03
HappyFoolLunar_Lamp: install the libqt3-dev package09:03
Krnekiyes09:03
piyapongvi09:03
funkyHatis that what you mean?09:03
lizardkingI habe no problem installin ati but post ati09:03
Krnekibut i it write that is installer09:03
lizardkingThe screen that I get is black and a box 640x480 with the game inside.Works all well but not this thing. Which Option in Xorg I must write?09:03
lizardkingMoreover when I change resoultion Ubuntu says that i have no Xrandr extension enable..How can do to enable?09:03
Makeehi! can anybody help me... Im trying to install ubuntu 5.10 for amd 64, but installation just halts when it gets to 25% complete. What is a problem?09:03
cevizogluKrneki: huh?09:04
sorush20funkyHat: I have a hundred times09:04
Lunar_LampHappyFool, ok09:04
piyaponghey, anyone have prob with firefox????09:04
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lizardkingjdub, some help?09:04
Makeeaaregh09:04
khermansI dont see the kernel source for 2.6.12 in the beezy repos -- therfore I cannot build ndiswrapper09:04
khermansany ideas?09:04
Lunar_LampHappyFool, ok - i'm trying that now09:04
lizardkingsome help with XrandR extension?09:04
piyapongI install new kernel, then after my browser doesn't work anymore???09:05
lizardkingLunar_Lamp, some help with XrandR?09:05
Krnekiactuall i want to have firewall on ubuntu and i want that some port are reforwarded to one other pc09:05
deFryskkhermans, I believe its linux-source09:05
piyapongany idea?09:05
lizardkingubotu, not soleved before09:05
ubotulizardking: Are you on ritalin?09:05
lizardkingwhat's ritalin?09:05
khermansdeFrysk, ahh thanks dude09:05
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lizardkingubotu, what is ritalin?09:05
ubotulizardking: what are you talking about?09:05
HappyFoola drug. ubotu is a bot, just ignore him ;)09:06
deFrysklizardking, something to slow you down09:06
lizardkingubotu, listen09:06
cevizoglulizardking: don't talk to the bot09:06
lizardkingubotu, sorry09:06
Krnekiis there possible to have firewall on ubuntu09:06
ubotulizardking: I give up, what is it?09:06
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Lunar_Lamplizardking: Lunar_Lamp, some help with XrandR? <-- i have no idea what that means, lol09:06
cevizoglulizardking: stop09:06
HappyFool!firewall09:06
ubotuit has been said that firewall is Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter.09:06
lizardkingubotu, Xrandr is a Extension for Xorg09:06
ubotulizardking: okay09:06
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lizardkingubotu, if I presso change screen resolution Ubuntu say I have no Xrandr09:07
ubotuI haven't a clue, lizardking09:07
cevizoglu!botabuse09:07
ubotuYou can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.09:07
lizardkingubotu, what's clue?09:07
ubotulizardking: What?09:07
HappyFoollizardking: you can't really talk to ubotu -- he's just a computer program09:07
lizardkingHappyFool, ooooooooops09:07
deFryskHappyFool, he knows that I'm sure09:07
lizardkingHappyFool, I did not know09:07
JeffAMcGeeit looks like ubotu passed the turing test09:07
lizardkingHappyFool, Can U read my post?09:08
lizardkingHappyFool, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=352571#post35257109:08
cevizogluJeffAMcGee: he convinced you he was a girl?09:08
KrnekiHELP me09:08
Earthenubotu, I installed firestarter today and it killed my internet sharing09:08
ubotuEarthen: I don't know, could you explain it?09:08
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JeffAMcGeeno, but he convinced lizardking he was a person09:08
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lizardkingyes really09:08
lizardking:(09:08
lizardkingstupid09:08
lizardkingeheh09:09
lizardking:D09:09
cevizogluthat's funny, two minutes ago I told lizardking we was a bot09:09
lizardkingI did'n understand09:09
lizardkingsome help for my post?09:09
lizardkinghttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=352571#post35257109:09
HappyFoollizardking: sorry, i'm not sure what the problem is. does ati work with xrandr ?09:09
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Earthenubotu, well I have internet sharing going through Dansguardian to filter the kids, and squid for proxy, and when i installed firestarted Ino one could get internet access even though i told it to allow all access from that network interface09:09
ubotuEarthen: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about09:09
lizardkingit is no a big problem09:10
HappyFoolEarthen: ubotu is just a computer program...09:10
lizardkingI have to go09:10
lizardkingsorry09:10
lizardkinganswer at my post if U have answer09:10
lizardkingbye09:10
lizardkinghttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=352571#post35257109:10
EarthenHappyFool, DOH!09:10
ebfelo09:10
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rob_pKrneki:  Try Ubuntu-firewall if you can live without a fancy firewall configuration gui.  It's a startup script that provides a nice firewall along with NAT and port forwarding capabilities. The Website is here: http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/27/1/09:11
cevizogluhe didn't know ubotu was a bot, but he created an entry in ubotu for xrandr09:11
cevizoglu!xrandr09:11
ubotuwell, xrandr is a Extension for Xorg09:11
ebfcan i ask here about redhat?09:11
cevizogluebf: no09:11
EarthenHappyFool, *bows head in shame*09:11
Krnekithanks09:11
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hoodmanAnyone here that doesent mind me asking alot of questions?09:11
HappyFooli think lizardking's first language may not be english09:11
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HappyFoolubotu, forget xrandr09:11
ubotui forgot xrandr, HappyFool09:11
ebfwhy not?09:11
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HappyFoolebf: you can ask, but we are unlikely to know the answer09:12
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fabiorizzohi09:12
cevizogluebf: ask09:12
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thewayofzenif installed openbox and obconf with apt-get .. anyone able to tell me the location of where i should put styles/themes09:12
hoodmanWill ubuntu work with my hardware?, mobo, sound, display ect?09:12
fabiorizzohow i discovery what is the 0xbc key in my keyboard?09:12
sorush20how do i start thunderbird in extension less mode.09:12
thrushhoodman: try the livecd and see =)09:13
HappyFoolhoodman: if you can, try the live cd first to test all that (i.e., run ubuntu without installing)09:13
hoodmanok...09:13
ebfits just simple? i went to the redhat channel and it told me to change to Federo core, my question is why do i have to change to federa?09:13
HappyFoolhoodman: otherwise, take a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/TitleIndex -- look for the Hardware* pages, maybe your hardware is listed09:13
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hoodmanwill any aplications im using now work with ubuntu?09:13
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transgressdamn the real world sucks... a beagle in the real world will not hunt down my glasses09:13
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HappyFoolebf: fedora core is the 'free' version of redhat; redhat proper is pay-for software09:14
fabiorizzoi can made questions here?09:14
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ds[de] fabiorizzo: just ask09:14
cevizogluebf: if you're going to switch to fedora, you might as well switch to ubuntu instead09:14
fabiorizzods[de] : how i find the 0xbc key in my keyboard ?09:14
MikeStyleHi, I'm trying to install something from source, but it says i need Glib 2.0+. I check Synaptic and i have 1.2 and 2.0 installed, but Im afraid to remove 1.2 because of all it says it will get rid of...09:15
fabiorizzods[de] : i don't know what is this key09:15
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cevizogluebf: fedora is the newer free version of red hat09:15
thrushMikeStyle: apt-get install build-essential yet?09:15
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ebfi already have a cd of ubuntu 5.10 but its giving me a hard time because im a first time user of linux09:15
HappyFoolMikeStyle: at a guess you need the libglib2.0-dev package09:15
hoodmanwill any of my windows aplications work with ubuntu?09:15
cevizogluebf: when you upgrade, if you want to stick with red hat, you would upgrade to fedora09:15
transgresscevizoglu: how do you figure if you are gonna switch to fedora you should switch to ubuntu?  there are differences...09:15
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cevizogluebf: you should use hoary instead09:16
ds[de] fabiorizzo: I don't know which key you mean, what do you need it for?09:16
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cevizoglutransgress: because I think fedora's no good09:16
HappyFoolhoodman: you might be lucky with wine (a windows compatibility layer); it depends what software it is09:16
cevizogluebf: that's version 5.0409:16
transgress...09:16
ebfok09:16
hoodmani see09:16
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transgressah on that note... i need to upgrade to breezy09:16
transgressyay for dist-upgrade09:16
hoodmanwhat about networking a winXP computer with a Ubuntu computer?09:17
fabiorizzods[de] : look at the keyboad shotcurts in system09:17
MikeStyleHappyFool, i have that already09:17
HappyFool"need" or "can't-put-off-the-compulsion-anymore" ? ;)09:17
fabiorizzods[de] : there, has some shotcurts keyboards09:17
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cevizoglutransgress: I've had increasing difficulty with red hat since version 7 came out09:17
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CrTrNeed more urls for /etc/apt/sources.list09:17
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MikeStylethrush, i installed Build-essential, now what?09:17
cevizoglutransgress: but I'm off-topic, I'll be quiet09:17
fabiorizzods[de] : like <alt> + <f5>09:17
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sanketmedhihello09:17
HappyFoolMikeStyle: what error do you get when compiling (don't paste here! use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl )09:17
fabiorizzods[de] : but, has some keys like, oxbc, thas i don't know what the keys is this?09:18
ds[de] fabiorizzo: ok hold on09:18
sanketmedhiI am facing problems allowing my normal user write stuff to a mounted windoze partition09:18
fabiorizzods[de] : ok.09:18
transgresscevizoglu: ah i see... well i like fedora quite a bit... but it doesn't suit my needs as well as ubuntu...09:18
sanketmedhican anyone help?09:18
dcravenhoodman: Linux can network with anything.09:18
thrushMikeStyle: can you compile now?09:18
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MikeStyleIll check09:18
hoodmanok09:18
dbzdeathhey how do you set the cc environment variable to a different gcc version?09:18
grasshoodman: xp and ubuntu --- no problems via network09:18
HappyFoolCC=gcc-4.0 <stuff>09:19
cevizoglutransgress: ubuntu is the only distro which works perfectly for me on all my hardware, which includes a powerbook09:19
cevizoglutransgress: and being based off debian makes it even better09:19
hoodmanwhere can i find software that will work with ubuntu, like antivirus and such09:19
dcravenhoodman: My opinion is that you should not count on your Windows applications to work, generally.09:19
dbzdeathHappyFool: so... CC=gcc-3.4.5 would work?09:19
MikeStyleHappyFool and Thrush, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/222009:19
HappyFooldbzdeath: something like '  CC=gcc-3.4.5 make' should work09:19
HappyFooldbzdeath: also    make CC=gcc-3.4.5   (i think)09:20
hoodmandcreven-is there a place to find software that will work?09:20
grasshoodman: try clamav or bitdefender09:20
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dcravenhoodman: No need for av software for Linux just yet, but something like ClamAV will filter windows viruses from emails and such.09:20
HappyFoolhoodman: ubuntu has 'software repositories' providing about 15000 different pieces of software (all gratis), including clamav09:20
ds[de] fabiorizzo: which action does this key "belong to"?09:21
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hoodmangrass....what are those clamav, and bitdefender?09:21
hoodmanwow09:21
transgresshere goes nothing... upgrading to breezy on the main machine... went over like a gentle breeze (pun!) on the laptop last night09:21
dbzdeathYour kernel was built with "gcc" version "3.4.5", while you are trying to use09:21
dbzdeath"/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2". This configuration is not supported and VMware09:21
dbzdeathWorkstation cannot work in such configuration. Please either recompile your09:21
dbzdeathkernel with "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2", or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl09:21
dbzdeathwith CC environment variable pointing to the "gcc" version "3.4.5".   hmmm CC=gcc-3.4.5 doesn't work09:21
dcravenhoodman: No Windows only software will work with Linux without a compatibility layer like wine. www.winehq.org will give more details if you like I think.09:21
grasshoodman: what kind of sw do u need: av, browser, mailclient, games,09:21
dbzdeathoops09:21
ds[de] fabiorizzo: because it can't find it here09:21
hoodmanYes...lol09:22
HappyFooldbzdeath: you need to have CC=... on the same line as the command, or use export CC=...09:22
hoodmanim thinking about installing it for the first time09:22
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grasshoodman: clamav and bitdefender are antivirus software09:22
CrTrNeed more urls(repositories)  for /etc/apt/sources.list09:22
hoodmanok09:22
MikeStylehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/222009:22
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dcravenhoodman: If you are serious about the switch, I'd suggest searching for Linux alternatives for your software if possible.09:22
grasshoodman: but there are many other av software for linux09:22
HappyFoolMikeStyle: hoary comes with glib 2.6.309:22
hoodmanok09:22
dbzdeathHappyFool: ok i just did that and it still doesn't work09:22
CryptidDoes any body know how amny Softwares are present in synaptec (a approx num.) i was told 16000 is that true09:22
hoodmanya i really need to start looking09:23
HappyFoolMikeStyle: that message is a bit unclear, but I think you might need 2.8.109:23
FlyingSquirrel32what open source software can I use to open, edit and resave a pdf?09:23
HappyFooldbzdeath: what command are you running? make? configure?09:23
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dbzdeathHappyFool: running the vmware configure program09:23
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cevizogluCryptid: that's about right09:23
HappyFooldbzdeath: this is a standard 'configure' script ?09:23
dbzdeathHappyFool: uh.. not standard09:23
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neirasHey everyone - usplash is cool but I'd like it to run at my native resolution (1280x1024). Is there a way to tell it to use vesafb at that res? I can't seem to find any configuration info09:24
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HappyFooldbzdeath: do you have gcc-3.4.5 ?09:24
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MikeStyleSynaptic only has 2.0 and 1.209:24
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dbzdeathHappyFool: uh not sure i'm running breezy09:24
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HappyFoolMikeStyle: they're just called 2.0, version is actually 2.6.309:24
HappyFooldbzdeath: you probably need to install the appropriate gcc package first09:24
dcravenCryptid: "apt-cache search .* | grep wc" says 17549.09:24
grasshoodman: try http://wiki.ubuntu.com for first contact09:25
HappyFooldbzdeath: then try    CC=gcc-3.4.5 /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl    again09:25
MikeStyleHappyFool, oh, well in that case its allready installed, so is 1.2, should i remove 1.2? im not sure if itll remove everything it says it will (KDE, ect.)09:25
grasshoodman: or similar webpages, simply google them09:25
HappyFoolMikeStyle: that is, the package is just called 2.009:25
dbzdeathHappyFool: gcc-3.4 isn't on... installing now09:25
HappyFoolMikeStyle: no, the problem seems to be that you need a later version09:25
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MikeStyleI have the laterversion happyfool09:26
HappyFoolMikeStyle: can you not use the version of gaim that comes with hoary?09:26
HappyFoolMikeStyle: you installed glib from source too ?09:26
MikeStyleI am trying to install PhoneGaim09:26
MikeStyleand Glib from soure? it asks me for a bunch of other stuff to install and then i get errors09:26
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dcravenhoodman: www.google.com/linux is a good resource.09:27
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funkyHatneiras, i'm posing a bug about that right now in fact :P09:27
funkyHator even, did a while ago, i forgot i finished it lolz09:27
funkyHat1550709:27
juanfehello all09:27
fabiorizzods[de] : so, i can't find this key too09:27
neirasfunkyHat: cool09:28
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dbzdeathdammit stupid gcc 3.4.409:28
MikeStyleHappyFool, i have no idea whats going on.09:28
HappyFoolMikeStyle: i don't understand line 201 in that configure output09:28
topylii got a pdf again which is garbage in evince but ok with acroread09:28
HappyFoolMikeStyle: ok, you are running ubuntu 5.04 (hoary), yes?09:28
MikeStyleUhm09:28
grassbye guys09:28
HappyFoolMikeStyle: cat /etc/lsb-release will tell you09:29
MikeStyleHappyFool, 4.1009:29
dcraventopyli: Is that pdf public? I'd like to try it. I haven't had problems with evince yet, but I've heard of others having them.09:29
HappyFoolMikeStyle: erk09:29
MikeStyleHappyFool, i got ubuntu a while ago :)09:29
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topylidcraven: it's a conference invitation, but i don't think it's very secret. i'll upload it to my site, hold on09:29
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Myrtti*yawn*09:30
Myrttimy brain is segfaulting09:30
HappyFoolMikeStyle: ok, well, what I *guess* is going on is you have glib version 2.6.3, but this app needs glib 2.8.1 -- i.e., a newer glib09:30
MikeStyleHow would i get the newer glib HappyFool,09:30
juanfedo you know a screen capture utility for linux?09:30
HappyFoolMikeStyle: install from source would be my guess09:30
deFryskjuanfe, print screen button in gnome09:30
dbzdeathHappyFool: do you know how i can get gcc 3.4.5 on and not 3.4.4?09:31
topylidcraven: http://siltala.net/flyer7.pdf09:31
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MikeStyleI tryed installing The latest GTK from GTK.org and it wouldnt let me09:31
Will^Dravenwhat command would i use to erase a floppy disk? i somehow ended up with a bunch of garbage on one09:31
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dalamarmount /dev/fd0 somewherre and rm the contents09:32
CryptidMy DVD which have multiple movies do not run i guess it due to the menu present in it, so what do i do to solve this problem09:32
HappyFoolMikeStyle: you may be about to enter a dependency nightmare, especially if you've not done much compiling etc. before09:32
deFryskWill^Draven, applications systemtools floppyformatter09:32
neirasAha, it's a framebuffer issue - my laptop's chipset doesn't like vga16fb09:32
neirascrappy09:32
dcraventopyli: Woah.. Yeah there are some font rendering issues there it seems.09:32
topylisomething like that09:32
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juanfean screen capture utility that permit select a part of screen?09:32
MikeStyleHappyFool, I'm fine with compiling, but every time i compile something i usually get something like "this needs this to install" then i try to install that and "this needs this to install" grr09:32
froggy25how do you configure webcams on ubuntu09:33
Will^Draventhanks deFrysk09:33
thrushWill^Draven: you could always fdformat ;)09:33
HappyFooldbzdeath: i don't see a gcc-3.4.5 here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=gcc&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all09:33
topylidcraven: this is bad. we should get rid of acroread but cannot while this happens09:33
HappyFoolMikeStyle: hence 'dependency nightmare' ;)09:33
froggy25i have a micro innovations IC50C camera09:33
froggy25i need to configure it for ubuntu and its not in my list09:33
HappyFoolMikeStyle: maybe read the glib or gtk 'INSTALL' or 'README' file -- do they not have a comprehensive list of dependencies, with version?09:33
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dcraventopyli: Well poppler is a pretty recent fork. It's come a long way in the short time since Evince was announced. It'll get there eventually :)09:34
dbzdeathHappyFool: yeah well i kinda need it... even if i have to install it from a hoary repository09:34
MikeStylehappyfool: ah. Is there a way to do all this through synaptic? i searched glib and it says the latest version is 2.6.309:34
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topylidcraven: of course, i could write to the organizers and say, "you are nice people and i'd love to come, but cannot read your flier. so you'll get a rubbish talk from me" :)09:34
HappyFoolMikeStyle: well, ubuntu doesn't really upgrade within a release, so i don't know if there's any easy way09:35
AzMooHow can I play mp3's in the gnome music player?09:35
MikeStyleHappyFool, sigh, okay...09:35
HappyFoolMikeStyle: however, the new (still in testing) ubuntu comes with glib 2.8.109:35
HappyFoolMikkelK: ... doh09:35
HappyFooloops, sorry09:35
dcraventopyli: I'd suggest keeping acroread around for the time being :)09:35
hoodmanto preview umbuntu live, i just unrar the file and burn it to cd?09:35
topylidcraven: poppler is very cool anyways, it will get there09:36
deFryskAzMoo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:36
dcraventopyli: But maybe attach the pdf to a bug against the poppler lib? --> http://poppler.freedesktop.org/09:36
AzMoodeFrysk, cheres09:36
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AzMoocheers, even09:36
deFrysk;)09:36
dbzdeathdammit why was the kernel compiled with gcc 3.4.509:36
topylidcraven: i'll do that09:36
dcraventopyli: Cool.09:36
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HappyFooldbzdeath: hoary appears to have 3.4.309:36
dbzdeathyeah... i kinda need 3.4.5 :(09:37
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HappyFooldbzdeath: well, if you're willing to go to all this effort, why not compile the kernel?09:37
dbzdeathbecause i can't be bothered waiting that long09:37
dcraventopyli: When loading that pdf, this is the error given: some font thing failed09:37
dcravenlol09:37
needsambahelpquestion: samba asks for a password when i view the network, how do i turn this off, the network is open for everyone in the hosue09:38
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neirasneedsambahelp: I have the same issue - clicking cancel on the auth box lets me see the shares, it's weird09:38
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needsambahelpneiras, can i wisper you09:38
neirasneedsambahelp: didn't do that in hoary09:38
neirasneedsambahelp: sure09:38
GhostFreemanHow soon can I reset my system after updating the kernel09:39
dbzdeathneedsambahelp: setup a guest user?09:39
djm62GhostFreeman: as soon as it's finished updating it09:39
hoodmanto preview umbuntu live, i just unrar the file and burn it to cd? (i have been watching closly, but i dont think we talked about it)09:39
GhostFreemanwill it force me too, is what i'm asking09:39
djm62nope09:39
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needsambahelpdbzdeath, neiras I hit cancle and my shares arent there, not even the computer i'm on09:40
GhostFreemanoh ok09:40
neiraswhoops, phone09:40
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dcravenhoodman: Did you download a .iso file?09:40
hoodmanshit...i think winrar snags isos09:40
hoodmani was wondering09:40
dbzdeathneedsambahelp: because you were denied when you clicked cancel perhaps09:41
woodwizzlewhenever I open my home dir in nautilus, my CPU goes to 100% and when I kill nautilus the CPU doesn't come back down09:41
dcravenhoodman: I know nothing of "winrar".09:41
robzonhmm any ubuntu developers around? ;)09:41
nybblebonjour, people09:41
needsambahelpdbzdeath, so if i add a guest account, everything should work out? i'll try it09:41
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takuhi there =)09:41
nybblewhy hello, taku09:41
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topylidcraven: ok, i'll launch the pdf from a terminal and attach the error messages too09:42
hmrochahello09:42
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hmrochajust a question...09:42
hmrochai have a cups server, exporting some printers...09:42
hoodmandcraven: its a compression program09:42
dbzdeathneedsambahelp: lol it isn't windows 98 :P09:42
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hmrochai have ubuntu configured to get that server's printers, but i only want students to see one printer09:42
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Answerhmrocha: try to form your question in one entry please so people can try to answer it09:42
hmrochais that possible?09:42
theblueThis is gonna sound like a dumb question, but how do I mount a floppy drive from the command line?09:42
dcravenhoodman: If it's a .iso file, you can just write it to a CD. Windows can do it through a context menu can it not?09:43
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hmrochaAnswer, ok09:43
dcravenhoodman: Or "nero"09:43
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dalamarmount /dev/fd0 /wherever09:43
needsambahelpdbzdeath, lol yeah09:43
theblueOk thanks.09:43
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takupeople, I'm looking for a music creator that runs under linux ( like "Music 2000" or "E-jay music maker" ), can someone tell me if such a thing exists09:43
taku?09:43
hoodmanya...its going now...it was my own sillyness that i couldnt do it09:43
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robzonhmrocha: yes, it's possible you have to give access to the printer to a specific group of users (here students)09:43
dcravenhoodman: Just make sure you don't just copy the ISO to a CD though.. You need to burn the image.09:44
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hmrochais is possible to set a cups server that is exporting a lot of printers, and all users of group "students" only see one printer?09:44
djm62taku: terminatorX ?09:44
hmrocharobzon, cool09:44
robzontaku: check out hydrogen, terminatorX, audacity and soundtracker09:44
hoodmandcraven....thanks its burning now09:44
thrushtaku I know there is a knoppix livecd just for music stuff you might see what they have running on it..09:44
dcravenhoodman: Cool. Good luck with it :)09:44
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hmrocharobzon, easy to do that?09:44
djm62I think there are other ones09:44
transgressdoesn't breezy use OO.o 2?09:44
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takuthanks, I'll take take a look at all of this =) thanks djm62 robzon and thrush09:44
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hoodmandcraven: im hoping it works well, i have an extra computer and am hoping to use it for storage and downloading09:45
dcravenhoodman: And don't bother trying to run Windows .exe files on it, they won't work :P09:45
hoodmanhehehe09:45
hoodmank09:45
djm62none of the tools are particularly "pro" except maybe ardour and audacity09:45
uirosegarden09:45
robzonhmrocha: I can't give you the config file, because I just can't remember how it went, but google for samba howto... it should be pretty easy, it's something like "allow from @students" and defining a group of students09:45
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djm62ui: not that this is the place, but, compared to Cakewalk?09:46
hmrocharobzon, why do i need samba?09:46
takuok djm62, I'll take a look, not bad if it isn't very professional, I'm not pro :p09:46
topylihere's a real question for you: how do you talk to the nokia 9300 communicator with a linux box?09:46
needsambahelpdbzdeath, so $su useradd guest right?09:46
robzonhmrocha: uhh sorry, I meant cups :)09:46
djm62taku: there are some nice demo scratches from terminatorX09:46
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takuI'm looking terminatorX, it seems to be very nice09:47
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dcraventopyli: Assuming that's a mobile device, maybe bluetooth?09:47
dbzdeathneedsambahelp: um... i'm not too cluey on samba... but you would need to add it as a smb user ... ie. smbpasswd -a user09:47
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robzontaku: yes, terminatorX is great for scratches :)09:47
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Daemonicwhat must I apt-get for a SMP enabled kernel?09:47
dcraventopyli: I used bluetooth to pass code back and forth to a Nokia 3600 a while back until I threw it against the wall.09:47
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Will^Dravenok, im having problems installing breezy on a compaq armada e500 laptop, ive pasted what i beleive to be the relevant info: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/222109:48
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transgressDaemonic: apt-cache search linux-image | grep SMP09:48
Will^Dravenany ideas?09:48
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topylidcraven: maybe, and infrared too. that could work with file transfer. that's what i managed with the earlier 9210 and p3nfs09:48
Will^Dravenseems to be crapping out when trying to write the partitions09:48
Daemonictransgress: ok, found it.. now, one more quick thing if you will, how can I tell apt to fetch the kernel but not install it?09:48
bushkhow can i get a wireless network device (wlan0) to send a dhclient request by default?09:49
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topylidcraven: of course, i'd like to sync my calendar and other stuff with evolution too, but oh well...09:49
tear!wne09:49
ubotutear: Do they come in packets of five?09:49
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tear!wine09:49
robzontaku: what kind of music do you want to create?09:49
needsambahelpdbzdeath, you sir are the man, i've been working with this for 3 days and couldnt get it to work. thank you thank you!09:49
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djm62bushk: in System->Administration->Networking09:50
dbzdeathneedsambahelp: *shrugs* i'm surprised it worked... but your welcome09:50
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Lethal-RocksCould someone remind be how to burn an ISO?09:50
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dbzdeathLethal-Rocks: using..?09:50
shawarmaLethal-Rocks: From commandline?09:50
venzen'sup everybody09:50
djm62Lethal-Rocks: a normal ISO? just right click in nautilus09:50
takurobzon:  ambiance-music09:50
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robzonLeeColleton: lots of ways... gnomebaker, k3b, even nautilus09:50
Lethal-Rockspreferably a gui09:50
bushkdjm62, manual way?  not running gnome09:51
Fred|Fr3dhey, how do i make a program auto-start on boot?09:51
dbzdeathk3b i recommend Lethal-Rocks :)09:51
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deFryskLethal-Rocks, just right click it in nautilus and choose burn09:51
takusome stuff to get prepared in programming an "audio experience" application =)09:51
dcraventopyli: You might pull that off with Multisync and the SyncML plugin. Nokia device still use SyncML AFAIK.09:51
bushkdjm62, i got this in my /etc/network/interface: iface wlan0 inet dhcp09:51
Lethal-RocksI have synaptic downloading about 300 packacges, install new ones isn't an option ;)09:51
Lethal-RocksWill try right-clicking ;)09:51
shawarmaFred|Fr3d: Which program?09:51
dbzdeathfuck .... 300..09:51
dcravenLethal-Rocks: In GNOME, you just right-click on it.09:52
venzen|Fr3d: you gotta 'save this session' when logging out (leave application open) and it will start on next login09:52
djm62bushk: and it doesn't do it? if you do ifdown wlan0&&ifup wlan0 ?09:52
robzontaku: ambience... Hmm i think some kind of tracker would be good for that (soundtracker, cheesetracker).. what's that "audio experience" application?09:52
Fred|Fr3dshawarma: like psybnc09:52
Lethal-RocksI know, I've been told twice :P09:52
OmarkjI have a laptop here..wiress working and so on. Does anybody know of a good wireless solution since I'm on the move a lot ?09:52
topylidcraven: they do. multisync itself is not very stable yet. also, it works only over tcp/ip connections, which i'd have to hack to work over bluetooth. it's scary09:52
deFryskLethal-Rocks, right click it ! (3x)09:52
bushkdjm62, yes, that works. :)  the problem is it doesn't do that on boot.09:52
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OmarkjThat is a profiling program of some sort?09:52
Spermitehow would i update from kde 3.3 to 3.4 of debian??09:52
djm62bushk: is it a pcmcia card?09:53
takurobzon: some ... how can I say ...09:53
Daemonichow do I tell apt to only download a package but not install it? apt-get -d <pacakge>?09:53
robzonby the way, anyone had a problem with burning in nautilus that it just wasn't able to detect a blank CD in the drive and kept asking for it?09:53
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deFryskDaemonic, man apt will tell you09:53
bushkdjm62 yes09:53
takusomething to make user humor matching with a music09:53
Lethal-Rocksrobzon, yes09:53
venzenman apt-get09:53
takucan you understand?09:53
deFryskman apt-get yes , sorry09:53
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Fred|Fr3dshawarma: i just wanna start 2 processes on boot... no gui login is used so that wont work09:53
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robzonLethal-Rocks: did you get to fix the problem?09:53
DaemonicdeFrysk: I just did that and it says the -d flag but it keeps saying that five packages are marked for install...?09:53
djm62bushk: have you done anything unusual in init.d?09:54
robzontaku: yes, I think so :)09:54
Lethal-Rocksrobzon, No, I've only just got it09:54
yahalomwhat is the app that turns on number lock at boot?09:54
shawarmaFred|Fr3d: Standard procedure is to put a startup script into /etc/init.d and put a link to it in /etc/rc2.d09:54
venzennumlockx09:54
deFryskDaemonic, install fakeroot and do fakeroot apt-get -d package09:54
robzonLethal-Rocks: ok, so let me know if you find a solution to this :)09:54
yahalomvenzen, thanx09:54
Lethal-Rocksrobzon, Mine is slightly different though09:54
Fred|Fr3dshawarma: how do i create a startup script?09:54
bushkdjm62, havn't modified it at all.  hotplug devices are pulled up, wlan0 find's most suitable AP, just doesn't send dhcp request.09:54
Lethal-Rocksrobzon, It thinks the file is too big :/09:55
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djm62bushk: in the boot sequence, you get "starting card services" before "configuring network interfaces"?09:55
Will^Dravencan somebody knowledgeable about partitioning issues have a look at this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/222109:55
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venzenFred - depends: there are lots in /etc/rc2.d09:55
bushkdjm62, that i'd have to check..what's the cmd?  dmesg?09:55
robzonLethal-Rocks: yeah, it says something like "insert CD with at least X MB free", right?09:55
Lethal-RocksYeah09:55
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Lethal-RocksAlthough putting a blank in both drives seems to have solved it :S09:56
Fred|Fr3dvenzen: i mean like, whats the format for the file? all the ones i looked in are really long as they have all this extra stuff like rehash or reload etc09:56
djm62bushk: cd /etc/rc2.d &&ls09:56
malexHi. Is there a doc on flash drive automounting set up in hoary/breezy?09:56
robzonLethal-Rocks: you have 2 recorders?09:56
Lethal-RocksYeah09:56
robzontaku: is it going to be open-source? ;)09:56
DaemonicdeFrysk: ok, just tried that.. it's giving me an invalid operation error09:56
Lethal-RocksI could put another ROM in as well :P09:56
takuhydrogen seems funny09:57
deFryskDaemonic, waht gave you that ?09:57
robzonLethal-Rocks: well, I have a DVD and a CD recorder.. maybe if I'll switch them, it'll work09:57
bushkdjm62, finding a start (S20)pcmcia, but nothing about networking besides inetd (also S20)09:57
deFryskDaemonic, dit you install fakeroot ?09:57
Lethal-Rocksrobzon, Good idea :P09:57
deFryskdid*09:57
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venzenWill: maybe you can first rewrite the part. table by booting from Ubuntu LiveCD : use cfdisk and then use e2fschk09:58
djm62bushk: in my rcS.d (startup, my bad) hotplug is S40, same as networking09:58
DaemonicdeFrysk: ~ # fakeroot apt-get -d linux-image-686-smp09:58
DaemonicE: Invalid operation linux-image-686-smp09:58
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djm62bushk: this seems to be ok for most things, but maybe your card is a bit odd on timing?09:58
DaemonicdeFrysk: ~ # apt-get -d linux-image-686-smp09:58
DaemonicE: Invalid operation linux-image-686-smp09:58
deFryskDaemonic, is synaptic open ?09:58
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transgressumm can you not aptitude install linux-image-686-smp ?09:58
DaemonicdeFrysk: no. I don't use synaptic..09:58
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bushkdjm62, same for mine.09:59
Daemonicnever had a problem using apt-get before.. why on this kernel image would it fail?09:59
IIdarkstarIIre to all09:59
IIdarkstarIIi've a problem with apt-get, when i try to download some packages, after some minutes it disconnects my dialup connection09:59
IIdarkstarIIi'm using breezy preview09:59
IIdarkstarIIops on amd6409:59
bushkdjm62, so should i do a mv S40hotplug s39hotplug or something?09:59
markumanhi is lirc modules only for kernel 2.4? and what is with kernel 2.6? is it inclued?09:59
Daemonictransgress: I don't want to install the smp image.. I want apt to retrieve it without installing10:00
djm62bushk: it's a guess...but move it behind some other stuff to give it time to initialise10:00
transgressDaemonic: oh okay10:00
Will^Dravenvenzen: i guess i can try.. going to be a long and painful process considering i only have one CDRW to work with and anytime i want to change what cd im using i have to reburn it, lol10:00
bushkdjm62, aight thanx, i'll fiddle.10:00
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venzenmarkuman: i think ir support is compiled into 2.610:00
deFryskDaemonic fakeroot apt-get install -d blah sorry10:00
pipounusing kde, how is it possible to keep the focus under the mouse?10:00
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GhostFreemanAnyone here using mail-notification with a Gmail account10:00
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venzenWill: do you have Knoppix or any other live cd?10:01
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psy|ubuheya10:01
venzenheya10:01
Will^Dravennope :(10:01
robzoneh yeah, nautilus definitely tries to detect an empty CD in my DVD instead of recorder :/10:01
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dbzdeathyay.... go go ubuntu kernel compile10:01
psy|ubui've got trouble in ubuntu land :)10:01
IIdarkstarIIsomebody has the same problem?10:01
DaemonicdeFrysk: ok. that seems to have worked but it says.. The following NEW packages will be installed:10:01
Daemonic  linux-image-2.6.10-5-686-smp linux-image-686-smp10:01
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DaemonicdeFrysk: I don't want to /install/ it.. I want to retrieve it.10:02
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markumanok venzen10:02
dcravenGhostFreeman: Still doesn't work eh? ;P10:02
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GhostFreemanno10:02
dcravenGhostFreeman: I gave up on it a while ago too.10:02
GhostFreeman it works for POP3 but it won't check my Gmail account (login failed errors)10:02
venzenWill : download and burn a small distro which includes cfdisk and e2fschk - it seems your drive is messed up at the partition table level, so have to check its integrity and correct before u will be able to repartition10:02
dcravenGhostFreeman: Same.10:02
bytefoosame :|10:03
transgressGhostFreeman: did you make sure pop3 was enabled on gmail?10:03
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GhostFreemanyeah, it is10:03
GregAschewhat's the easiest way to make it so that I can double click on links in my terminal and have them open in firefox?10:03
Will^Dravenok, i'll poke around and see what i can find10:03
GhostFreemanshould I just make another pop3 and check Gmail through that10:03
djm62GregAsche: rather than right-click?10:03
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transgressGregAsche: can't really... that's a terminal thing... gnome-terminal allows you to right click and do it10:03
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takusorry, little problem10:04
GregAschetransgress: I use Gnome terminal, but is there a plugin or extension or something so that I can double click?10:04
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transgressGregAsche: umm not that i've ever seen.10:04
topylidcraven: bugzilla is so bureaucratic. i only now got the bug committed :)10:04
GregAscheby the way, highlighting and right clicking doesn't work for me10:05
libbenfuck10:05
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libben192 mb to be downloaded... and thats just one day ive left it on not to upgrade =)10:06
topyliGregAsche: to copy and paste? you paste with the middle button10:06
maximausjust right click w/o hilighting and choose "open in browser"10:06
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maximausthe link will open in your default Gnome browser.10:06
GregAscheno, highlight the url and right click, open link so that it opens in foirefox10:06
GregAscheit doesn't work10:06
GregAscheoh10:06
djm62GregAsche: you don't need to hightlight, or you shouldn't...if it's a real url "http://address.suf"10:06
sambagirlshould i getting tightvcn or just vcn?10:07
topyliGregAsche: gnome-terminal should not need any higlighting, it recognizes urls10:07
sambagirlthey dont having the deb thingy on end but rmp10:07
maximausSystem/Preferences/Preferred Applications--make sure Firefox is set to default.10:07
GregAschetopyli: it recognizes the url, but what do I do to get it to open?10:07
funkyHatsambagirl, there is already a VNC server and client built in to ubuntu10:07
gooHi. I upgraded to Ubuntu Breezy from Hoary some days ago, and my keyboard doesn't work anymore. The AltGr key doesn't work as it is supposed to, so the "at" sign and all the bracket signs is impossible to get to. Does anyone know how to fix this?10:08
topyliGregAsche: like you say, right click and choose open. is it b0rken?10:08
lilrickygoo, do a fresh install10:08
goolilricky: a fresh install of anyting?10:08
lilrickybreezy10:08
GregAschetopyli: yep10:09
lilrickyupgrading from hoary breaks alot10:09
sambagirloh!10:09
lilrickythey recommend doing a clean install10:09
topyliGregAsche: have you defined a default gnome browser in the preferences menu?10:09
goolilricky: If I am going to do an fresh install I will install something else than Ubuntu, that's for sure.10:09
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sambagirlbut is it the tightvcn?10:09
topyliGregAsche: never mind, something should be default anyway10:09
lilrickyyou do know that breezy is an alpha release, right?10:09
lilrickyits for testing, not for using10:10
djm62sambagirl: tightvnc is available for ubuntu, via aptitude10:10
topylililricky: that's hogwash10:10
djm62lilricky: it's beta10:10
lilrickytopyli, you want to read the release notes?10:10
topylililricky: upgrades always work, the system might be broken of course10:10
goolilricky: would doing an fresh install be the recommended thing to do also after Breezy is considered stable? Or is that something they just say while it's "alpha" ?10:10
GregAschetopyli: I don't see anything in gnome terminal prefs about a default browser10:10
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lilrickygod, no one reads TFM anymore :(10:11
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topyliGregAsche: in the menu: system - prefs - preferred apps10:11
topyliGregAsche: the gnome menu that is10:11
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CrTrDo I need to reboot after dist-upgrade ?10:12
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GregAscheokay, done that10:12
gooAs an complete reinstall is out of the question - does anyone know how to give me an Norwegian keyboard with the AltGr key working on Breezy? Any help would be greatly appreciated!10:12
GregAscheyay, looks like it works now10:12
GregAschethnaks10:12
GregAsche*thanks10:12
venzenCrTr: sometimes10:12
dcravenCrTr: You do if you want to use your new kernel.10:12
lilrickygoo, have you tried changing the keymap?10:12
CrTr10x10:12
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takurobzon: could you gime the adress of this knoppix audio, I can't succed to get the page10:12
topyliGregAsche: strange, there should always be a default, "sensible-browser" in debian language10:12
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timmowI reckon upgrading the system as installed would be fine, its when you add to it yourself that problems happen10:13
goolilricky: as in setting Option          "XkbLayout"     "no" to something else?10:13
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jiphow can i backup a dvd? both, cpvts and dvdbackup complain about read errors10:13
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robzontaku: knoppix audio? never heard of it :)10:14
traviosois there an easy way to play wmv9 (vc1) files?  vlc is giving me hell on breezy..  windoze pissed me off for the last time.. :)10:14
lilrickyexactly10:14
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npfethmm hey does anyone of something (perhaps an IDS or like an IDS) which would passively monitor a network say for traffic like worms/exploits/etc...10:15
test34how can I autorun a program as root when I start the computer (ie firestarter)? I tried to add "sudo /etc/init.d/firestarter start" in System - PReferences - Sessions - Startup Programs but it doesnt work10:15
takuerf robzon excuse me, It must be djm62 that told me about knoppix audio : /10:15
venzennpnet : snort10:15
takudjm62:  do you have any adress ? : /10:15
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test34I mean when X windows starts after you log in10:15
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Lethal-Rockstest34, "update-rc.d firestarter defaults" should work, not sure if it needs sudo10:16
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djm62taku: wasn't I, but ISTR a couple of audio liveCDs10:16
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concept10test34: add this to your sessions: sudo firestarter --start-hidden10:16
takuoh ok10:16
djm62taku: dyne:bolic from http://rastasoft.org/10:16
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djm62might be up your street10:16
timmowanyone using muine on breezy? does it crash?10:16
takuthanks a lot djm6210:17
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test34thanks Lethal-Rocks and concept10  I will try that10:17
venzenconcept10: cool10:17
thrushtaku i saw the knoppix musician livecd on distrowatch10:17
Jowihi all, anyone got "sketch" working? After a fresh install of it it spews out script errors...10:17
taku thanks a lot thrush, I run to take a look at this10:18
djm62taku: also agnula/demudi seems to have a livecd available10:18
thrushtaku: =)10:18
concept10test34: although it gives you a warning on start, it still works... that is from the firestarter documentation. Add that to your startup programs tab under System > Prefs > Session10:18
venzendemudi is the bizniz10:18
takuthanks a lot too djm62 =)10:19
test34concept10, ok I had the warning already.. but it was hidden even if I didnt give the --start-hidden parameter10:19
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test34concept10, I don't really want it to be hidden though10:20
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concept10test34: im not sure how to get rid of the warning. (it requires root access) - Hidden means that it will not popup everytime you login, it will still be in the notification panel.10:20
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test34concept10, ahhh ok thanks10:21
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topyliahh. rastasoft. i almost want to use dynebolic because or the name of the project10:21
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topylisuits well for a free software project10:21
test34restarting gnome to test it..10:21
djm62topyli: dynebolic is pretty technically good too10:22
OmarkjWhat's the thing with always-on fans..10:22
djm62man united10:22
venzenwhat thing10:22
dreumahwhats a good juke box to install, i dont like rhythmbox or juk10:22
OmarkjWell, the fan is always on. ;)10:22
topylidjm62: how could it not be? it's nature, not babylon10:22
dbzdeathhmmm anyone got vlc installed on breezy?10:22
OmarkjEven if it's blowing out cold air. (a laptop)10:22
topylidjm62: so that's what i'll install when i finally set up my music workstation?10:23
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AnswerQuestion: What's that easy command to see the system memory?   Like df for disk usage10:23
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dbzdeathAnswer: cat /etc/meminfo10:23
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djm62topyli: depends what you want...if you were doing live streaming radio it's pretty good10:23
harrytuttleAnswer: free -m10:23
dbzdeatherm10:23
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takudamn ... there isn't any app as simple as a e-jay or "music 2000" ...10:23
djm62or DJ-ing10:24
eliUbuntuhello people10:24
dbzdeathi mean cat /proc/meminfo10:24
dbzdeathbut free -m works10:24
venzentopyli:don't judge a book by its cover - also try demudi10:24
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test34concept10, I have sudo firestarter --start-hidden  in my startup programs and I still get the warning and firestarter doesnt get started..10:24
eliUbuntuanyone know how to copy a file into multiple directories at once using the command line?10:24
topylidjm62: oh, i'm thinking more about making music. demudi might be a good choice venzen10:24
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Answerdbzdeath: correct answer was free -m given by harrytuttle :)10:24
OmarkjAnyway, does anybody know a good network profiling progam ?10:24
djm62topyli: vive la difference10:24
OmarkjThat actually works?10:24
dbzdeathwtf is that bot?10:25
topylior perhaps ubuntu, with a demudi-like package collection10:25
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venzenOmarkj: noderunner - but no .deb package10:25
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Omarkjvenzen: Thanks, I'll check it out. I ought to be able to compile something all by myself.10:25
harrytuttleeliUbuntu: for i in /dir1/ /dir2/ /dir3/ ; do cp /file "%i" ; done10:25
kidoi forgothow to launch vnc, where's it located?10:25
venzensure10:25
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Answerkido: whereis vnc    locate vnc10:26
Omarkjvenzen: I'm unable to find it quickly on Google, can you give me any more information about it ?10:26
djm62venzen: is demudi optimised for latency?10:27
Jowiis "sketch" broken?10:27
topylidjm62: yeah, they've got kernels tuned for that10:27
Jowi!info sketch10:27
ubotusketch: (Interactive vector drawing program for X11), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.6.15-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1355 kB, Installed size: 6352 kB10:27
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Will^Dravenhow can i blank a cdrw?10:28
topylidjm62: it's also very insecure, you don't want to make a demudi server or something10:28
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theblueHi all.10:28
j00barhowdy.10:28
djm62I'm waiting for the day I can recommend Free to my brother for pro audio10:28
theblueWhen I boot my other computer, GRUB tries to load, but gives me Error 17, what does that mean?10:28
JowiWill^Draven: easiest to do it with "graveman". my fav burner10:28
j00bartheblue: what does google say?10:29
dcravenGhostFreeman: fetchmail can get your gmail quite easily. I just set it up now.10:29
thebluej00bar: Good idea.10:29
GhostFreemanok10:29
topyliWill^Draven: cdrecord -v -dev=YOUR-DEVICE -blank=fast10:29
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GhostFreemani'll assume its on repo10:29
j00baranybody have experience with pbuilder?10:29
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JowiWill^Draven: ...or go the topyli way. anyhow, your cdrw should not be mounted.10:30
shawarmaj00bar: Try in #ubuntu-motu10:30
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j00bargrashus.10:30
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dcravenGhostFreeman: fetchmail? I think it might be installed already, but given your question, it is probably not what you want.10:30
topyliWill^Draven: of course, you'll have to know the name of the device10:30
Will^Draventopyli: how do i determine my device, cdrecord -scanbus hates me, lol10:30
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JoxerCan anyone help me to get "transparecy" to work with ubuntu ? ^_^10:31
j00barWill^Draven: iirc, the cdrecord -scanbus is now obsolete...10:31
topyliWill^Draven: if you have a regular IDE cd drive, try cdrecord -scanbus -dev=ATAPI10:31
apokryphosJoxer: do you have an nvidia card?10:31
Will^Dravenok10:31
Joxerapokryphos, yes10:31
funkyHatubotu, zc030x10:31
ubotufunkyHat: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?10:31
apokryphosok10:31
Flying_EagleJoxer, why dont you help yourself?10:31
funkyHat:(10:31
apokryphosubotu: tell Joxer about composite10:31
Joxerty ^_^10:32
apokryphosnp10:32
seliniumHi all, faux pas of the day! I installed wine via cvs as per wiki instructions. It isn't working properly. How do I uninstall it?10:32
topyliWill^Draven: i guess your device will be -dev=ATAPI:/dev/hdc or some such10:32
seliniumhi apokryphos :)10:32
Jowihas anyone had luck with sketch?10:32
apokryphoshola 8)10:32
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j00barselinium: assuming you made is from source, try "make uninstall" in the source tree10:32
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seliniumj00bar: Cool I'll have a go! :)10:33
Joxeri think i found my problem XD im using warty10:33
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seliniumj00bar: The source tree? As in the same folder I make install'ed10:34
djm62j00bar: yeah10:35
djm62selinium: yeah10:35
djm62d'oh10:35
Joxeranybody want to tell me a little about how to get hoary ? :/10:35
topyliWill^Draven: sorry, you'll dev will be someting like ATAPI:0,0,0 or whatever scanbus tells you10:35
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topyliWill^Draven: your, not you'll :)10:35
j00bartopyli: iirc, that's deprecated since 2.410:36
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funkyHatJoxer, edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list10:36
topylij00bar: so you say :)10:36
j00bartopyli: there doesn't have to be scsi emulation of ide cd burners anymore.10:36
JoxerfunkyHat, just change warty to hoary ?10:36
funkyHatreplace every time it says warty to hoary10:36
topylij00bar: there's no emulation, but cdrecord still wants to know if it's dealing with ATAPI devices10:36
Joxerok, i've done that allready ^_^ thanks10:36
funkyHatand comment out/delete the line for your CD10:36
eliUbuntuharrytuttle: thanks for the help but that did not work. i am trying to do the following "cp file %/file" is that right? I also tried "cp file */file"10:36
Will^Dravenscanbus dosent work, but i figured it out "sudo cdrecord -dev=ATAPI:/dev/hdd -blank=fast" worked10:37
seliniumdjm62, Cheers, only i deleted it! as per wiki instructions! lol10:37
selinium!wine10:37
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funkyHatJoxer, then do sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade10:37
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funkyHatXD10:37
topyliWill^Draven: ok then. make an alias like "alias blank='sudo cdrecord -dev=ATAPI:/dev/hdd -blank=fast' in your bashrc :)10:38
JoxerfunkyHat, done it ;)10:38
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harrytuttleeliUbuntu: ummm why that didn't work? however cp can copy multiple files to a single dir, not the other way around at least i think10:38
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Joxerurm, just a question, is XF86Config.4 the same as xorg.conf ?10:39
topyliWill^Draven: then you can always just give the "blank" command in the future :)10:39
chiddyJoxer, no10:39
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eliUbuntuharrytuttle: i did it once before, but i forgot how i did it =(10:39
eliUbuntuit was about a year ago now10:39
Joxerthats strange, i dont seem to have xorg.conf :/10:39
j00barJoxer: XF86Config.4 sounds like a manual page10:39
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Will^Dravenwhere do i put the alias?10:39
harrytuttleeliUbuntu: ok sorry, don't know10:39
Joxerso if i dont have a xorg.conf ill jsut make one ?10:39
j00barJoxer: most linux distros used to package XFree86, but since a license change awhile back, they switched to X.org10:39
j00barJoxer: XFree86's config file was XF86Config, while X.org's is xorg.conf10:40
chiddyJoxer, are you using Warty by any chance?10:40
eliUbuntubot problem harrytuttle, thanks for the effort nonetheless =)10:40
Joxerchiddy, yes10:40
topyliWill^Draven: .bashrc in your home directory. note the dot, it's a hidden file10:40
JowiJoxer: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is the best way to create a new xorg.conf file10:40
j00barJoxer: if you're using Warty, it uses XFree86, not X.org10:40
Will^Dravenkk, thanks topyli10:40
Joxer:/10:40
chiddyJoxer, you might want to upgrade to hoary, that will give you all new stuff including xorg10:40
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Joxeroh, cool10:41
robzonhow do I enable overburning in nautilus-cd-burner?10:41
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seliniumdjm62 j00bar , make uninstall running, cheers guys!10:41
Joxerthis can be done with apt-get ? or is it hard ? Lol10:41
chiddyJoxer, yeah you can use apt-get its really easy10:41
djm62Joxer: use apt-get, and it's pretty automatic10:41
Joxerk10:41
nlindbladnite10:41
j00barJoxer: is there something X.org has that you need?10:42
robzoneh ok, I've got it10:42
topyliWill^Draven: see my bashrc for alias examples, they are mighty handy: http://siltala.net/comp/dot-bashrc10:42
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Jowirobzon: in gconf-editor - go to apps -> nautilus-cd-burner. there is an option there to turn it on10:42
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chiddyJoxer, here are some directions if you want to upgrade: http://ubuntuguide.org/4.10/index.html#upgradewartytohoary  (it says that hoary is beta on there, but its a little old thats why)10:42
topyliWill^Draven: yours would be like "blankcd='cdrecord -whateveryouroptionsare'10:42
Joxerok, thanks man :)10:42
Joxerbrb /reading)10:43
Will^Dravenif i already have gedit open how can i open a hidden file in a tab?10:43
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robzonJowi: yeah, I've found it, thx :) but I thought that there might be some more easy-accessible place to turn it on.10:43
seliniumany idea on how to speed up ripping in sound juicer?10:43
chiddyJoxer, seriously though, these upgrades can go wrong though they haven't for me or anyone i know, good luck with it... i have to get going10:43
topyliWill^Draven: easier to open a terminal and command: gedit .bashrc10:43
j00barWill^Draven: execute gedit with the --new-document argument, methinks.10:43
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sorush20how do I open port 11010:44
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Jowisorush20: there is no firewall enabled as default.10:44
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topyliWill^Draven: also, look at the first lines of my file. you need the "source global environment first" part10:44
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sorush20Jowi: I have bestilli I don't know how to remove it..10:45
Jowisorush20: if you haven't installed firestarter or some other firewall, it is not your computer that is blocking the traffic.10:45
Jowisorush20: oh10:45
topyliWill^Draven: every line that begins with a # is a comment, and not code10:45
Jowisorush20: i have never configured that one10:45
seliniumsorush20, your not from southend, england are you, Your nick is a bit familiar! :)10:46
Will^Draventopyli: i understand comments and code, i started programming when i was 11, i just moved to linux however, lol10:46
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topylihehe10:46
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topyliWill^Draven: ok, you're home10:46
sorush20selinium: No..10:46
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seliniumsorush20, np :)10:47
sorush20is anyone here using webmail extension on TB10:47
sorush20is there a mass extension installer for TB10:48
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Will^Dravenhmm, the blank=fast failed, i'll try again with a blank=all10:48
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sorush20I keep getting these errors in the Terminal when I start Thunderbird10:49
sorush20TB10:49
sorush20(Gecko:18374): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_rowstride: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed10:49
topyliWill^Draven: i just looked at my bashrc and see that my path is screwed. i have to fix it :)10:49
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k3p7hello10:52
basilonhi10:52
sorush20come on guys work together10:52
traviosoanyone get vlc with vc1 to work?10:52
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k3p7i just installed ubuntu and installed the mysql-server and php4 and apache10:52
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k3p7my question is, why doesn't php want to use mysql commands? (mysql_connect, mysql_query, ect)10:53
k3p7is there a module i need to get?10:53
gook3p7: apt-get install php4-mysql10:53
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gook3p7: everything in Ubuntu's php4 system is modularized.10:53
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k3p7all i got was that it couldn't find php4-mysql10:54
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k3p7any ideas?10:55
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gook3p7: I bet you have some missing sources. And I don't want to help you with that. Sorry :)10:55
k3p7so, is there any place on the web i can get that?10:55
ompaulk3p7, wrong question10:56
cevizoglu!tell k3p7 about sources10:56
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Krilleok so i screwed up my ubuntu install yesterday10:57
Krilleits ubuntu PPC on an iMac DV10:57
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test34I can't change my root password...10:57
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Krilleneedless to say, its the wors piece of utter shite that ever left a hempsmoking computer designers drawing board, but if we forget that for a while i would like some coaching10:58
apokryphosubotu: tell test34 about root10:58
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test34in a root console, I type passwd, change the password, close the console, reopen root console and I have to enter the old password10:58
fanskapethmm anyone here running breezy and got a mobility 9700 chipset?10:58
seliniumk3p7, There is a walk through at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?action=show&redirect=LAMPForHoary10:58
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Krillethe thing is, i had problems starting up gnome and by doing some sloppy web search, i thought i needed to reinstall gnome panel10:58
JowiZaacc: you can also try DSL (damn small linux) it is also a live-cd that doesn't have all the stuff but is great to use as a resque-cd.10:59
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Krillei removed it, and was gonna install it, and realized i have no net connection10:59
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Krilleanyhow, i do have some PPC install cds here ... can i get the gnome panel back in there so that ubuntu doesnt complain every time i start up?  before i try to solve the net problems10:59
adaptfanskapet: i have before - on my powerbook10:59
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fanskapetadapt, succeded in getting hardware ogl acceleration working?11:00
test34apokryphos, my root is enabled.. but I can't change my password11:00
adaptdidnt try actually11:00
apokryphostest34: sudo passwd11:00
test34apokryphos, even though it says it did change it successfully11:00
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apokryphostest34: there shouldn't be a reason to use it, though.11:00
zygadoes the live cd support SMP systems?11:00
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harrytuttlefanopanic: no way on a powerpc, no proprietary drivers available and no opensource drivers either11:00
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dupondjehi guys, got a question, i have tft screen, and if i boot i can't see anything, what boot option should i use ?11:01
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test34apokryphos, why would you need to use sudo passwd when I'm in a root console11:01
k3p7woooo!11:01
k3p7i found it, thanks for the help11:01
pybetest34: you shouldnt need to11:01
apokryphostest34: you didn't mention that11:01
apokryphostest34: plain passwd should do it11:01
Jowidupondje: you can try turning off the framebuffer at boot. don't ask me how though, should be a boot option for it...11:01
zblachhi11:02
harrytuttlezyga: no11:02
zblachi forget. how to install a .tar.gz?11:02
matteshallo!11:02
mattesspricht hier jemand deutsch?11:02
zblach!dk11:02
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, zblach11:02
selinium!de11:02
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, de is #ubuntu-de bitte.11:02
zblachah. thats it11:02
zygaharrytuttle: darn :/11:02
zygaany live cd that can test a low mem dual cpu i386 box?11:03
zblachanyone? .tar.gz11:03
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timmowwahooo!! I just got muine working with inotify, aac and working album cover fetching.  I am pleased.11:03
Jowizyga, you can try DSL, Bonzai, Slax.11:03
test34apokryphos, I use passwd in a root console, change the password, but then I can't use the new password it doesnt work, I have to use the old password11:04
Krilleand feather11:04
timmowzblach: tar -xzvf file.tar.gz; ./configure; make; sudo checkinstall11:04
pybezyga: damnsmalllinux or featherlinux might11:04
timmowassuming you have checkinstall installed11:04
timmowif not sudo apt-get install checkinstall11:04
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JowiZaacc: i know how to turn coredumps off, but not on. On other linux systems except Ubuntu, core files are created automatically in the home-directory and are HUGE.11:05
strifeI know that the Breezy Preview isn't supported, but I'm having trouble installing it.11:05
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strifeThe installer gets to "Partition Disks" and won't allow me to continue11:05
Krillecan someone give me an IP that leads to a web page ?11:05
Krillei want to see if my DNS is fishy11:05
strifeis this a known problem, or is it just my disc image/pc?11:05
JowiKrille: 216.239.59.99 (gooogle)11:05
test34apokryphos, nevermind, I know why.. sudo doesnt use root, it uses the admin user11:06
Krillethanks11:06
Joxerdoes ubuntu 5.10 use xorg ? ^_^11:06
zygapybe: can they boot from a scsi cd? that's all I've got11:06
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holycowJoxer, yes11:06
apokryphostest34: erm, of course... you said you were in a *root* console. Ubuntu uses sudo, of course.11:06
Krilleno i cant reach that either .... how normal is it that you can chat on IRC but not surf ?11:06
strifeMy only option on the "Partition Disk" dialog is "??? ???"11:06
Joxerok, ill just dl 5.10 then, my update failed11:06
gooI have a problem with setxkbmap - when trying to do setxkbmap no it only replies: Error loading new keyboard description  - Anyone has a clue? :)11:06
strifeand hitting continue does nothing11:06
Lethal-RocksKrille, It's very odd ;)11:06
pybezyga: should be able to check their sites11:07
KrilleLethal-Rocks: yeah ...11:07
JowiKrille: when did it stop working?11:07
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test34apokryphos, yes I was in root console.. but after changing the password I was trying to open a new root console, but it didnt even ask for a password, so I tried sudo... I'm not used that sudo doesnt use the root account11:07
zygapybe: true11:07
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Krilleok appearently it was just google i had trouble with .. hmm11:08
apokryphostest34: yes. Check the link ubotu sent you.11:08
pybeKrille: could be a routing issue that you have no controll over try  212.58.224.89 (www.bbc.co.uk)11:08
KrilleJowi: seems i cant connect to google, thats it11:08
djm62Krille: are you in the UK?11:08
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test34apok, ok11:08
JowiKrille: lol11:08
Krilledjm62: sweden11:08
djm62Krille: I've had a similar problem in the UK recently11:08
djm62just Google11:08
Krilleok11:08
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Krilleno big deal11:09
djm62I can even do google.ru11:09
Krillebigger problem is that the net is very dead on my ubuntu machine11:09
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cevizogluwhoah, ubuntu's purple haze theme is excellent for black backgrounds11:09
JowiKrille: you can't even ping local machines (if you're behind a router)?11:09
djm62or ping the router11:10
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cevizogluKrille: have you checked to see if you need proxy settings?11:11
chillywillymy X on breezy freezes whenever there's any DRI/3D action going on...also I cannot turn xscreensaver off without it locking things up either, anyone know of a fix?11:11
KrilleJowi: the google-thing and the ubuntu-thing are two different things really11:11
chillywillyI have an ATI Radeon11:11
JowiKrille: yeah, i understood that :-)11:11
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Krillethe google thing was on my main computer ... laptop, XP .. and it was just google. i can talk to you guys11:11
Krilleas for the ubuntu ...  phew. well let me take it from the beginning11:11
Krillei have this iMac, threw ubuntu onto it and it has been running nicely for a month or so, doing some seeeerious torrent piracy as a headless box more or less11:12
topylicevizoglu: purple haze?11:12
Krillewell, yesterday i think i accidently touched the power cord so it was shut off11:12
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Krillerebooted it, and i had problems when gnome starts up. Googled that error message (too quickly), and saw that it could be "gnome panel" needing to be replaced.11:13
Krillesomeone else had done that and solved their problems. which might not have been exactly as mine. :-/11:13
JowiKrille: well, run sudo network-admin. if your NIC can be seen there try to deactivate + activate. if your NIC is not there maybe you had an overload on the mobo....?11:13
Krillewell, i apt-removed gnome panel, understanding that gnome would have serious problems starting up now11:13
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Krillethen i was gonna apt-install it again and realized i had no NIC conenction either  :-)11:14
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HergiswiUbuntu decided to randomly stop reading my NIC connection11:14
Krilleso i'm thinkging, should i start with this gnome-panel thing?  now that i have CDs, theres got to be some way to install locally ?11:14
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JowiKrille: just try sudo network-admin first. see what happens.11:15
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KrilleJowi: ok hang on11:15
topyliHergiswi: i suspect there are other problems. ubuntu doesn't randomly decide things, it's a computer program :)11:15
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Krilleehm the problem is actually getting a decent console ... gnome wants me to log on, ctrl alt backspace often restarts that gnome-thang ... hehe11:16
shrike__Ever since I removed firestarter from this computer it is not responding to pings cant ssh into it etc what do I need to do to set everyting back to Ubuntu's defaults?  Firestarter entry still showing up in init.d after apt-get remove is that normal?11:16
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k3p7hello... i installed the php4-mysql module, but how to i get it to actually restart?11:16
JowiKrille: ctrl-alt-backspace always restart X.11:16
Krilleok .. i wanna shutdown X ... coz i wont be able to start up gnome correctly now. i'm at the login prmopt, graphical that is11:17
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zblach_hi11:17
zblach_how to set default applications?11:17
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JowiKrille: ...so gnome hangs when you try to log in now?11:18
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k3p7hello... i installed the php4-mysql module, but how to i get it to actually restart?11:18
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Jowianyone got SKETCH to work?11:18
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topyliKrille: do ctrl-alt-f2 to get a prompt, then login and do 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop' and you have no X11:18
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Krillejowi: i end up at an empty brown screen... :)11:18
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topyliKrille: then fix gnome :)11:19
zblach_how to set default applications for file extensions?11:19
Krilletopyli: thanks! wgats the "gdm" that i stop? the gnome daemon that makes it restart all the time ?11:19
zblach_i.e. .jpg11:19
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zblach_Krille, Graphical Desktop Manager11:19
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sorush20how do you remove something you installed form source11:20
Krilleok11:20
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k3p7where is php.ini?11:20
topyliKrille: the Gnome Display Manager that gives you the login screen and offers you your X session11:20
deFrysksorush20, with patience11:20
Jowisorush20: make uninstall usually11:20
Krillenice facts about ubuntu on iMac: you cant tab-complete commands on the keyboard11:20
k3p7where is php.ini on ubuntu?11:20
rob_pshrike__:  If you removed it using apt, I'd have thought it would have removed the startup script and applicable sym links in the various run levels, etc.  However, if it didn't, you can manually remove them.11:20
sorush20deFrysk: patience is a command..11:20
sorush20make uninstall <application name>11:20
holycowk31th, do sudo updatedb then locate php.ini11:21
sorush20?11:21
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Krilleok i stopped gdm .. i am at a normal console login thing now11:21
Jowisorush20: no, only: make uninstall, in the directory where you typed ./configure + make + make install11:21
Krillei will do the net-command11:21
khermansafter I install linux-source from apt, shouldnt the tar.bz be extracted somewhere?11:22
JowiKrille: network-admin only works graphically :-/11:22
Krillewtf ?11:22
khermansit seems that apt only puts it in /usr/src and now i cant build ndiswrapper11:22
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sorush20Jowi: I have removed the directory that I used to install it form is there another way..11:22
Krillejowi: ok then thats not an alternative really11:22
Jowisorush20: then you're screwed.11:22
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shrike__rob_p, any idea what it would have done to prevent icmp echo etc. even when its not running?11:23
topyliKrille: what exactly was it that you want to do?11:23
rob_pshrike__:  No.  But it's easy to fix!11:23
cevizoglutopyli: yeah, purple haze: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2663211:23
Krilletopyli: well i want to reinstall a gnome compononent i removed (gnome panel) but it seems the NIC gave up on me the same moment as i got the gnome problems ...11:23
JowiKrille: if you want to remove ALL your gnome-settings and have nothing to loose you can do it like this: log in where you are (not graphically) and type rm -rf .gnome* (note the period before gnome)11:23
Krilleso i cant apt-get it11:23
cevizoglutopyli: it's good for black backgrounds, like in terminal11:24
Pepscan I leave a message to someone who is not online?11:24
sorush20Jowi: that seemes a little bad..11:24
cevizoglutopyli: at least, I like it11:24
Krilleisnt there a way to apt-get instal gnome panel from the cd i have ?11:24
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JowiKrille: then do ALT-F7 and log in normally, that will re-create all gnome settings as if you logged in for the first time11:24
topyliKrille: so you cannot ping any hosts, like google.com?11:24
cevizoglutopyli: been looking for a theme like this for months11:24
Jowitopyli: he can't even log into gnome :-)11:25
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Krilletopyli: nah. and mind you, i had everything working allright and didnt touch any settings, i rarely root thigs box ... it just ran its own race and BAM11:25
shrike__rob_p, im guessing its not as simple as say 'net start server'...11:25
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topyliJowi: ping doesn't actually depend on gnome :)11:25
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P0S3Rhei all11:25
cevizogluKrille: huh?  race exception?11:25
topyliKrille: hrm. let's debug :)11:26
rob_pshrike__:  Just use iptables to set the default policies back to ACCEPT and flush all the chains.11:26
Krillecevizoglu: huh ?`11:26
Pepsis it possible to leave a message on IRC to someone who is not online????11:26
topylicevizoglu: looks pretty cool. it's kinda dark though isn't it :)11:26
topylicevizoglu: i'll download it and try it on sometime :)11:26
malkyKrille : are you using a ppp connexion (modem) or LAN ?11:26
Krillepeps: it is, or at least it was, yes . cant remember the syntax but you could perhaps try #irchelp on one of the bigger networks ?11:26
Jowitopyli: but network-admin does. and his gnome crash. and his network is down. and i thought that easiest way to see if his nic is recognised at all was to go through network-admin... hehe11:27
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Krillemalky: small network at home, a router, a switch. computers behind the switch can have static IPs or be DHCP'd. This ubuntu box had DHCP settings11:27
topylicevizoglu: i've liked this one for a long time: http://siltala.net/comp/Hoary-desktop.jpg11:27
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rob_pshrike__:  ...as in, "sudo iptables -F" and, "sudo iptables --policy INPUT ACCEPT" and, "sudo iptables --policy OUTPUT ACCEPT" and, "sudo iptables --policy FORWARD ACCEPT"11:28
topyliJowi: we'll do it on the console now i guess :)11:28
JowiPeps: it's called "leaving a memo". /msg nickserv help11:28
topyliKrille: what does ifconfig tell you?11:28
malkyaye, ifconfig before :)11:28
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Krilletopyli: no normal IP at eth011:28
malkytype 'dhclient eth0'11:29
topylino ip. rhm11:29
malkyhmm11:29
malkysudo dhclient eth011:29
malkywould be better11:29
topyliyes11:29
rob_pshrike__:  That will set things back to defaults and nothing will be blocked any longer.11:29
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Krilleyeah it would :)   got some errors there11:29
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Krillei'll just su from now on11:29
shrike__rob_p, well that was pretty painless =) always been afraid of messing with iptables11:29
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topyliKrille: if you've enabled root, you might as well be root now11:30
Pepsjowi: I still dont understant how to leave a message. can you tell me the exact syntax?11:30
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Krilleyeah i'm root ... and dhclient really struggles, i tells ya11:30
Krillethere is a lot of output and i'm not sure i need to quote it all ..but basicly it iterates something and tries and tries and .... hmmm   now it gave up11:31
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malkywhat sort of error messages ?11:31
Krillei think my mac cant see my NIC11:31
Krilleuhm lets see11:31
topyliKrille: is this a breezy box? i have dhcp problems on my work breezy box, but not at home for some reason11:31
Krillesit0: unknown hardware adress type 77611:31
Krillefor example11:31
Krilleand then a few lines later11:32
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KrilleDHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 511:32
KrilleDHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 1111:32
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KrilleDHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 1011:32
Krilleetc11:32
ompaulKrille, do not paste11:32
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Krilletopylin breezy is the new one right ?11:32
Krilletopyli11:32
Logtimehi11:32
ompaulKrille, do not paste here use paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:32
rob_pshrike__:  Don't forget to use update-rc.d to remove the symlinks from the runlevels otherwise when you reboot, you'll have to do it all over again :-)11:33
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pdkI have a problem, I am unable to get any files, when I do an apt-get11:33
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topyliKrille: yeah well, the future one actually :)11:33
Logtimeanyone know how to use gftp with SSL?11:33
Krilleompaul: i cant paste ...  i can "quote" but thats it11:33
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Logtimeor some other ftp client?11:33
pdkLogtime: its really called SFTP11:33
Krilletopyli: ok now its the one thats been out a couple of months ... hoary11:33
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ompaulKrille, if you have web access you can use that pastebin11:33
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IceDragonI'm looking for a free harddrive partitioner, and qtpart looks good... how does it compare to Partition Magic?11:34
malkyKrille : francais ?11:34
topyliKrille: and there's always #flood11:34
Logtimepdk,  but i'.ve an error11:34
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Pepsjowi: I am not registered. I think you can't see my replies11:34
Krilleompaul: yeah well i'm not sure theres any point in typing it all ....   i mean, i cant copy and paste this and theres a bit of text to type. i think the machine doesnt see the NIC.11:34
takusee you later all =)11:34
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Krillemalky: non, suedois11:34
othernoobIceDragon: it's better than partition magic11:35
Krillemalky: depuis naissance11:35
ompaulKrille, what kind of nic is in it?11:35
IceDragonI mean, as in ease to use11:35
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IceDragonIs it dependable11:35
cyberwarriorhi11:35
Krilleompaul: well, its actually very very built in11:35
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Krilleits an iMac11:35
cyberwarriori need help on ubuntu11:35
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topyliompaul: we're on a real console here. how exactly do ou copy and paste in there? it must be possible11:35
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BluRI'm trying to get GRUB back into the mbr and none of the directions i can find are working.  my boot drive is /dev/sda and i have another /dev/hda drive.  how can I restore GRUB to the mbr?11:35
BluRin the ubuntu cd's rescue mode, i'm running grub-install /dev/sda but it gives me errors about not using an xfs file system11:35
Krillebut i do have a USB NIC here that might come in handy, i dont know11:35
JowiPeps: ah, you're right. anyway. type /memoserv help. that should be all you need to know. /memoserv help <command> also works. not a topic for the #ubuntu channel. and i don't think unregged can leave memos11:35
rob_pshrike__:  You can do a, "update-rc.d -f firestarter remove" to purge the symlinks.  Then you can manually remove the firestarter startup script from /etc/init.d.  But I still find it odd that apt didn't do all that for you when you removed firestarter.11:35
malkycurious, this error seems to happen a lot with the LiveBox (france telecom dsl router)11:35
othernoobIceDragon: same difficulty level as parition magic11:36
ompaultopyli, hmm11:36
cyberwarriorhello???11:36
topylisurely it must be11:36
topyli:)11:36
ompaultopyli, don't know - will test11:36
ompaultopyli, I can think of ways11:36
topyliemacs!11:36
IceDragonheh, partition magic wasnt hard at all11:36
cyberwarriorompaul: my ubuntu doesn't starts on my comp. what should i do?11:36
topyliompaul: emacs has a shell, and you can copy/paste :)11:36
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othernoobIceDragon: exactly11:37
ompaultopyli, this is true, what is the irc client in it again?11:37
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cyberwarrior????11:37
topyliompaul: doesn't matter. just eshell, and run your favorite client11:37
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cyberwarriorompaul: ...11:37
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shrike__rob_p, seemed to remove fine no errors or anything11:37
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rob_pshrike__:  Oh, ok.  Then you're all set :-)11:38
ompaultopyli, I never got into emacs (yeah and the fsf and ifso  are on my case about it :))11:38
pybecyberwarrior: do you get an error message? be more specific.11:38
topyliompaul: anyway, i don't think we're helping Krille much. he's a newbie stuck in a console11:38
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k3p7okay, i got php to include the mysql module11:38
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ompaultopyli, I was under the impression that the macs did the I am a ubuntu box quite well11:39
Krilletopyli: actually, i'm not a newbie ... and a console isnt anything that scares me. but i dont know where to go from here, when the machine doesnt seem to like the nic suddenly ... and when there is a similar problem with a live CD ....11:39
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cyberwarriorpybe: ubuntu boots, it installs stuff then i get an error on line 18.. some debian thing error.. then everything goes ok and then *ror fails (dunno what it is).. and then a black screen comes and that's it11:39
k3p7now, after i create the database in mysqladmin11:39
k3p7i can't seem to login11:39
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ompaulKrille, hoary / breezy ?11:39
k3p7what username would i use?11:39
topyliKrille: so, if you ifdown and ifup eth0, all you get is dhcp errors?11:39
pybecyberwarrior: you get errors during install?11:39
cyberwarriori am running a liveCD11:40
ompaulcyberwarrior, first put together a question for the channel, second in that give specific facts hang on and I will get the bot to help you11:40
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ompaul!tell cyberwarrior about ask11:40
IceDragonI was looking through google, and I was wondering.... wth do I download qtpart from?!11:40
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cevizogluKrille: which version of iMac?11:40
k3p7anyone know?11:40
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k3p7please, i need this asap11:41
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JowiIceDragon: sudo apt-get install qtparted11:41
ompaulKrille, emm possible silly question it is the wired nic or the wireless you are trying to use ?11:41
pybecyberwarrior: 1st check the media, if thats ok then write down the error and google it.11:41
IceDragonI'm getting it for someone else11:41
cevizogluk3p7: the same username you use when you installed mysql11:41
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cyberwarriorok11:41
k3p7uhmmm11:41
topylik3p7: try root, with no password11:41
k3p7ok11:41
IceDragonMight I find a way to get it to him11:41
Krilleheres a funny anecdote from real life, kids ...    i installed this machine togehter with an identical iMac over at a friends house. i left the (burnt) ubuntu CD there.11:42
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k3p7thank you!11:42
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KrilleWell,now when i started having these problems i was kinda lazy and though "aarghh, shoot... now i am gonna have to walk over to his place (one kilometer) and get the CD.... and i wish there were any live CDs for mac"11:42
k3p7that's unsafe :S11:42
topylik3p7: now, set a password for root :)11:42
malkyKrille : do you have a line like this in dhclient output ? : 'execve (/sbin/dhclient-script, ...): No such file or directory'11:42
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KrilleWell, turns out i am gonna go to an expo at a neighbour city today, an expo about a lot of technical companies in this region. This was in a totally different matter ofcourse. Whats one of the first things i see, if not a coupple of guys demonstrating ubuntu! And handing out the very PPC install CD i need, plus live CDs...! hehe11:42
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pybeKrille: have you tried to give it a manual ip to prove it works11:43
k3p7can you tell me how to do that?11:43
k3p7oh wait11:43
k3p7nvm11:43
IceDragonDoes Damn Small Linux come with it?11:43
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Krillemalky: nope it doesnt complain about that script11:43
topylik3p7: oh i don't remember, i always use all those graphical or web-based thingies for myslql11:43
Krilleompaul: its the built in wired nic11:43
Krillepybe: no not yet11:43
sorush20I've typed sudo hdparm /dev/hdc, and added the line mentioned onthe ubuntu wiki about dma but I still don't get the message that says that dma is enabled what the hell is going on..11:44
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astronut!java11:44
ubotuit has been said that java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java11:44
BluRargh, no ideas on helping me restore GRUB to MBR?11:44
ompaulKrille, I'm very surprised at that11:44
Krillecevizoglu: its the grey/greenish iMac DV (G3)11:44
Krilleompaul: i believe its hoary.11:44
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Quinthiussorush20: doesn't "sudo hdparm /dev/hdc" list "using_dma" ?11:44
sorush20Quinthius: it does and it is off11:45
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LogtimeFTPS Support unavailable since SSL support was not compiled in. Aborting connection.11:45
Quinthiussorush20: so do: sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc11:45
Quinthiussorush20: that 1 is a one, not an L11:45
JowiKrille: since the live-cd's produce the same faults I would consider the posibility that the mobo is faulty after you kicked the powercord... just a pessimistic though :-/11:45
malkyKrille: then try 'sudo iptables -F' and 'sudo dhclient eth0' (without sudo if root of course)11:45
sorush20Quinthius: I want it to be set as default on the configfile..11:45
Krilletopyli : uhm well actually ifdown eth0 gives an error too, yes.  5-6 lines ... first ones are "sit0: unknown hardware adress type 776"11:46
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gabaugwhere does apxs for apache2 get installed on Ubuntu?11:46
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pybeKrille: i suppose you checked the cable?11:46
Krillepybe: IP cable?11:46
Krilleuh, i mean "internet" cable11:46
shrike__BluR, are you able boot ubuntu at all right now?11:46
Quinthiussorush20: have you changed /etc/hdparm.conf?11:46
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pybeKrille: ethernet (cat5) cable11:47
khermansAnyone have ndiswrapper working in Breezy Badger?11:47
Jowigetting tired... night all.11:47
Krillepybe: yeah well the LED lights up at the switch when i install it.11:47
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pybeKrille: still might be dodgey11:48
sorush20Quinthius: I'll post on the paste bin.. could you take a look please..11:48
Quinthiussorush20: put this at the end of /etc/hdparm.conf (if you havent already): http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/222311:48
malkythat's not a proof of functionality11:48
JowiKrille: ah, before I leave just a thing you can test: set a static IP11:48
ompaulKrille, if it is not the cable, if your happy with the console I do have one suggestion that might help - but I am far from sure with this (being an x86 user) , YMMV etc - however as the machine boots, it offers the chance to install a server version - if this is acceptable to you then may I suggest you give it a shot, when it is finished you do >> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop << and start from there11:48
LogtimeFTPS Support unavailable since SSL support was not compiled in. Aborting connection.11:48
KrilleJowi: its not unrealistic actually. I dont know how the electrical system behaves for you yanks, but here you can sometimes have 220v connections (the one without any power supply, just that cable) that sort of ... hmm makes a "crackling" noise when you insert it and its not totally "straight" or "in" ....11:48
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ompaulKrille, that sound - unsafe -11:49
Krille.... and its like .. well, it can produce very small sparks in the entrance of the equipment. this was the case with this mac i think. its possible that that behaviour can burn the NIC or something11:49
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topyliKrille: tell me about it :\11:49
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Krillehard to explain this in text and in english ...!11:49
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sorush20Quinthius: here is what I have in the file http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/222411:49
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Krillebut if there are any swedes here, det knastrar satan nr man stter in vissa kontakter ibland ....11:50
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malkysparks when you plug the power cord in are quite usual11:50
pybeKrille: heres an interesting one http://www.linuxelectrons.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=43511:50
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evandrooie11:50
evandroalguma garota ae?11:50
ompaulit saved me a computer 15 years ago when they cost a lot of money :)11:50
JowiKrille: a yank like me lives in France, but i am Swedish! haha. my powersupply crackles a bit as well when i put it in. no worries about that. anyway. I would try to set a static IP on the NiC before giving up on it :-) g'night all!11:50
topyliKrille: din locale r frn den arsehole11:50
Quinthiussorush20: put commends back on the /dev/cdroms ones11:50
kicoloboHi, how can I configure the refresh rate of my monitor?11:50
Quinthiussorush20: comments11:50
fanskapetagh.. damn fglrx11:51
kicoloboThe refresh rate that I want is not listed.11:51
ompaulI had got it after a couple of brownouts11:51
Quinthiusfanopanic: what's the problem?11:51
topyliKrille: freenode is happily utf-8 AFAIK :)11:51
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malkyKrille: so you know the ip of your router ?11:51
fanskapetso there\s noone running breezy with a mobility 9700 radeon chip_11:51
fanskapet?11:51
evandrojoin foz11:51
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kicoloboI had just installed the ubuntu 5.1211:51
Fraeon5.12?11:52
malkywow11:52
ompaulkicolobo, 5.10 ?11:52
kicoloboyeap11:52
sorush20Quinthius: did you see the hda, what is the wirte cache off11:52
thrushkicolobo: you have your monitors manual handy?11:52
kicolobobut my refresh rate is not listed11:52
kicoloboyes11:52
Quinthiussorush20: if you dont know what it is you shouldnt have it uncommented :)11:52
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topylikicolobo: you can set it manually11:52
kicolobohow?11:52
malkyfanskaet: no but i'm running gentoo on my laptop (mobility 9700 too=)11:52
Quinthiussorush20: put comments (# makrs) back in front of the first 3 sections... /dev/cdroms/cdrom0, cdrom1, and hda11:52
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pp_Hi . I have installed pkgs php4-mysql apache2 mysqlserver and php4. I can't connet to mysql from php. The phpinfo(); command show not mysql. this command show the --whitout-mysql option for the apache compilation. Must I recompile apache with 'with-mysql' option? Exist another pkg? I have pkg apache2.0.53-5ubuntu5.311:53
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Quinthiussorush20: you dont have to specify a line for turning dma on for hard drives, it should be on for them by default11:53
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LogtimeFTPS Support unavailable since SSL support was not compiled in. Aborting connection.11:53
topylikicolobo: do "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and answer the relevant questions as they come. otherwise, keep hitting Enter11:53
malkyand i've got no problems since beginning, what's yours ?11:53
Quinthiussorush20: there is also an error in your file11:53
angryfixWhen creating a new user in Ubuntu, how do you limit that user to a specific directory?11:53
angryfixIf they use ssh for example.11:53
sorush20Quinthius: okay11:53
Quinthiussorush20: under #command_line ... you didnt comment out the closing bracket }11:53
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topylikicolobo: use sudo when running that command of course11:54
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Quinthiussorush20: all you should really have is the /dev/hdc and /dev/hdd sections... everything else there can be commented out11:54
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Krillepybe: that was indeed an interesting link ... will look into it tomorrow. will sleep now i think11:54
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pybeKrille: good luck11:55
Logtimeanyone know a client FTP with SSL?11:55
Logtimetnx11:55
crimsunlftp11:55
mkyb14to anyone that knows.  is there a program like 'geek-tool' on osx, for linux that displays the apache.log as tranparent on the desktop??????11:55
Logtimegui?11:55
topyliKrille: happy hacking!11:55
Krilletopyli: that sounded like a "learned" phrase :)))11:55
crimsunLogtime: cli11:55
malkyaye, good luck viking guy =)11:55
Krilleand not coming from a native swedish speaker ?11:55
Logtimecrimsun,  i want a gui11:55
topyliKrille: i guess :)11:55
Krillemalky: yeah i know the IP of the router11:56
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crimsunLogtime: did you use gftp?11:56
malky192.168.0.1 ?11:56
Logtimebut i got an error im newbie11:56
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Quinthiusmkyb14: i dont know what geek-tool is, but it sounds like you want to watch a logfile in realtime on the desktop?11:56
Logtimecrimsun, FTPS Support unavailable since SSL support was not compiled in. Aborting connection.11:56
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mkyb14yes, but transparent11:56
Krillemalky: uhm.. yeah that should be it .. or 192.168.1.1   ... can never remember  :)11:56
Quinthiusmkyb14: check out root-tail11:57
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angryfixHow can you lock a newly created user in their home directory (A default user) so they can only view that directory?11:57
mkyb14ok11:57
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Quinthiusmkyb14: i'm not sure if it will display properly with nautilus handling the desktop... but worth a try11:57
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mkyb14ok11:57
pybemkyb14: you can get an terminal like aterm/eterm and set options so it has no boarders & is trans etc11:57
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malkyKrille : then you can try 'ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.199 netmask 255.255.255.0 up'11:58
PepsI would like to have my laptop get it's IP address from a server running dhcp. Both laptop and server run hoary11:58
topyliangryfix: what's the harm of read-only access? i can think of some use cases though11:58
malkyand try to ping the router11:58
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PepsI have something called udhcpd, but it is not working???11:58
angryfixI just don't want the extra users reading certain files for privacy's sake.11:59
Logtimecrimsun,  have u seen?11:59
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crimsunLogtime: I use cli ftp clients.11:59
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malkyangryfix : it's do-able but not very easy11:59
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angryfixi have a friend working on a project with me, but i dno't want him to see my other projects i have going in other folders11:59
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topyliangryfix: there must be a way, this is unix after all. but damn if i know :(11:59

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