[01:57] <apokryphos> Riddell: done those (sorry for the delay), shall I put the stuff up somewhere now?
[01:58] <Riddell> apokryphos: yeah cool
[01:58] <Riddell> slap them on a web server somewhere
[02:02] <apokryphos> damn you slow upload speed. Might take a few minutes. 8)
[02:06] <Riddell> upload is a problem
[02:07] <apokryphos> I finally got decent download speed (8 megabit), but the cheapos still only give 0.4 upload
[02:08] <Riddell> London?
[02:10] <apokryphos> yeah
[02:10] <apokryphos> Bulldog
[02:19] <apokryphos> Riddell: ok, http://www.giannaros.org/kde3.5/
[02:19] <apokryphos> be sure to tell me what I did wrong :D
[02:31] <\sh> Riddell: knoda sync missing python2.4 build-deps..trying to fix ;)
[02:32] <\sh> latest upload todays morning when I'm getting up
[03:01] <\sh> Riddell: knoda fixed...uploading now 
[03:02] <Riddell> excellent
[03:03] <\sh> done...testit :)
[02:28] <\sh> Riddell: who is amarok packager for ubuntu? or should I package new amarok 1.3.1?
[02:37] <Riddell> \sh: amarok has been badly packaged by me and amu in the past (i.e. epoch is > 0)
[02:38] <\sh> Riddell: I see it..
[02:38] <Riddell> \sh: I've been avoiding doing amarok 1.3.1 since I don't see any desperate need for it and I've no wish to battle upstream version freeze
[02:38] <\sh> Riddell: sabdfl wishes to have it ;)
[02:38] <Riddell> \sh: but it's obviously heavily wanted and if sabdfl wants it then go for it :)
[02:38] <\sh> Riddell: when it's no hassle
[02:38] <Riddell> \sh: take a look in svn.debian.org for syncing to the debian packaging
[02:38] <apokryphos> Quite a lot of people have been asking about it in #kubuntu
[02:39] <Riddell> apokryphos: and on mailing lists and on bugzilla, but so far nobody has been able to give any reason why they want it
[02:40] <apokryphos> Riddell: many new features
[02:40] <Riddell> apokryphos: such as what?
[02:40] <Riddell> actually didn't mornfall package 1.3?
[02:40] <\sh> Riddell: not on svn.d.o
[02:40] <\sh> but http://people.debian.org/~adeodato/packages/amarok-sarge/
[02:41] <apokryphos> Riddell: they have quite a few on their site, but the whole new wiki tab, proper ipod support etc
[02:41] <\sh> Riddell: actually I need to patch it again, i think
[02:41] <apokryphos> amaroK is one of the only apps that gnomers venture into, that's why I think it's important to have (people see it as the part of kubuntu they have)
[02:42] <apokryphos> oh, and the Knewstuff etc too
[02:42] <Riddell> \sh: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-kde/people/dato/packages/trunk/amarok/debian/
[02:45] <\sh> Riddell: yes the same
[02:49] <\sh> Riddell: but if I change now the version without epoch..which is greater? 2: or 1.3.1?
[02:50] <Riddell> \sh: you still need the epoch
[02:50] <allee> Riddell: FWIW for next kde-announce msg: s/5.04/5.10/
[02:51] <\sh> Riddell: need to merge the changelog 
[02:52] <Riddell> allee: tsk, silly me (and kde-apps.org), thanks for spotting
[02:52] <Riddell> \sh: yeah, just do that in whatever seems the most sensible way
[02:52] <\sh> yepp
[02:52] <allee> \sh: nobody can beat an epoch. Once introduced one can't get rid of it.  dpkg --compare-versions x.y op u.v
[02:54] <\sh> allee: yeah...I only have to take care, that the changelog is in sync 
[02:55] <\sh> and this is more mess then ever ;)
[02:55] <allee> merging is pure fun *grin*
[02:56] <\sh> allee: GO AWAY *eg*
[02:59] <\sh> Riddell: what is kubuntu_02_gstreamer_output.patch? 
[03:01] <\sh> ah only just some fixes in a config file....ba
[03:01] <Riddell> \sh: dunno, what's in it?  what does the changelog say?
[03:01] <\sh> -            <default>alsasink</default>
[03:01] <\sh> +            <default>osssink</default>
[03:01] <Riddell> alsasink had some problems for people
[03:02] <apokryphos> Riddell: any major errors in the .debs; is it worth me trying something else small? =)
[03:02] <Riddell> apokryphos: kdetoys?  worked just great for me
[03:02] <Riddell> thanks very much
[03:02] <Riddell> kdepim is small and easy :)
[03:02] <Riddell> (not really)
[03:03] <apokryphos> I thought not :D
[03:04] <apokryphos> Riddell: should I go for that then or a smaller one? 
[03:04] <Riddell> kdegames is probably another small easy one
[03:04] <apokryphos> cool
[03:04] <apokryphos> wondering if I'll be able to get past fixing patches if need be
[03:05] <Riddell> I seem to remember JRe also offered to help package 3.5 beta :)
[03:06] <\sh> building amarok-1.3.1
[03:06] <\sh> Riddell: u want 3.5 for breezy? ,-)
[03:06] <Riddell> \sh: maybe we can convince sabdfl to delay breezy to allow in 3.5 :)
[03:07] <\sh> Riddell: hahaha...lets try ;)
[03:07] <JRe> Riddell: right!
[03:08] <\sh> ok..lets wait one hour for amarok
[03:10] <Riddell> JRe: let me know if you want me to assign something out to you
[03:10] <JRe> Riddell: tell me what package needs building
[03:11] <JRe> (i have an amd 64)
[03:12] <Riddell> JRe: then you have a choice of either rebuilding stuff for amd64 or packaging new stuff in a 386 chroot
[03:13] <JRe> what modules of kde3.5 are not packaged already ?
[03:13] <Riddell> JRe: done is libs, base, utils and toys
[03:14] <Riddell> multimedia, pim, network, edu are next I guess
[03:14] <JRe> Riddell: ok I can work on kdepim
[03:15] <Riddell> woo!
[03:15] <Riddell> http://kubuntu.org/~jr/3.5-src/
[03:16] <JRe> Riddell: there is a repo with the already built kde 3.5 libs and base?
[03:16] <Riddell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KDE35Packages
[03:16] <JRe> Install KDE 3.5 beta1 kdelibs and kdebase (ask Riddell for URL)
[03:16] <Riddell> oh yes, that would help
[03:16] <Riddell> deb http://kubuntu.org/~jr/kde35beta1 breezy main
[03:21] <apokryphos> only one patch this time, with one fail:
[03:21] <apokryphos> Hunk #1 FAILED at 6.
[03:21] <apokryphos> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file kbounce/Makefile.am.rej
[03:21] <\sh> ok..amarok build fine...reapplying gstreamer patch...rebuilding...uploading to my webserver
[03:22] <apokryphos> \sh: what's the URL? Mind if I test?
[03:23] <\sh> apokryphos: I rebuild now with the gestreamer patch...give me 20 mins...
[03:23] <Riddell> apokryphos: maybe the patch is now in KDE?
[03:23] <apokryphos> of course
[03:23] <apokryphos> Riddell: I'll check
[03:23] <\sh> apokryphos: but then deb http://archive.linux-server.org/ breezy/i386/ 
[03:27] <\sh> grmpf
[03:28] <\sh> patch failed
[03:28] <apokryphos> Riddell: oop, indeed it is.
[03:28] <apokryphos> will remove the patch
[03:30] <apokryphos> Riddell: sorry, no, if I'm reading the patch correctly... seems to be a patch for Makefile.am, but doesn't seem to have the extra line that the patch has. Makefile.am.rej does though
[03:30] <apokryphos> not sure if that's significant
[03:30] <\sh> Riddell: your gstreamer patch made it upstream ;)
[03:36] <\sh> apokryphos: try it now
[03:42] <\sh> Riddell: ok with u for 1.3.1?
[03:42] <apokryphos> \sh: seems to work perfectly -- tried all the engines.
[03:42] <apokryphos> Great stuff :)
[03:42] <\sh> ok..
[03:47] <JRe> Riddell: the version of these packages is 3.4.91, rught ?
[03:47] <JRe> s/rught/right/
[03:48] <apokryphos> JRe: yeah
[03:52] <\sh> wow...it works perfectly
[03:53] <\sh> and looks nice
[03:53] <JRe> \sh: where are the 1.3.1 packages ?
[03:54] <\sh> deb http://archive.linux-server.org/ breezy/i386/
[03:55] <JRe> \sh: thanks!
[03:55] <\sh> Riddell: I will talk to mdz tonight..and then we can upload
[03:55] <JRe> ho nice we will maybe have them in breezy
[03:55] <\sh> JRe: thats sabdfls plan
[03:56] <JRe> \sh: it's a good idea because 1.3.1 version is really nice (tested it on unstable)
[03:57] <\sh> ok..now for wine
[03:57] <\sh> 20050830 ;)
[03:58] <JRe> there is an option in pbuilderrc that I can set to have a i386 arch instead of amd64 ?
[03:58] <JRe> export DEBIAN_BUILDARCH=i386 ?
[04:12] <JRe> ok the right command is env ARCH=i386 sudo pdebuild
[04:18] <JRe> pbuilder rocks
[04:19] <apokryphos> Ok, determined that the patch isn't applied in the Makefile.am definitely, and so there's a .rej. Not sure why it hasn't applied... it's only an extra  -lartskde  ..should I just add it in to the Makefile.am?
[04:20] <JRe> apokryphos: maybe the context text has changes and it's why the patch is rejected
[04:20] <JRe> s/changes/changed/
[04:20] <JRe> apokryphos: so make a brand new patch which does exactly the same thing
[04:21] <apokryphos> alrighty, I'll try, thanks.
[04:22] <JRe> mmm configure: WARNING: bluetooth/bluetooth.h: present but cannot be compiled
[04:23] <apokryphos> JRe: is there a particular way I should create the patch? Only really used to doing svn patches
[04:24] <JRe> apokryphos: if it's a cdbs patch use cdbs-edit-patch nameofthepatch
[04:25] <\sh> apokryphos / riddell: http://pastebin.com/365499
[04:25] <JRe> apokryphos: if it's with dpatch use dpatch-edit-patch nameofthepatch
[04:26] <apokryphos> JRe: how do I know which it is? 
[04:26] <JRe> apokryphos: take a look in the rules file
[04:28] <apokryphos> JRe: include ...cdbs. That's it, I take it.
[04:28] <JRe> apokryphos: include debian/cdbs/simple-patchsys.mk ???
[04:28] <apokryphos> that's right
[04:31] <Riddell> apokryphos: is it a cdbs package?
[04:32] <\sh> JRe: did u have problems with 1.3.1 packages of amarok?
[04:32] <apokryphos> Riddell: I have little idea of what that even is. It's for kbounce
[04:32] <JRe> \sh: no on unstable it was fine
[04:32] <\sh> JRe: and with the packages from me now on breezy?
[04:33] <Riddell> \sh: where are your breezy packages?
[04:33] <JRe> \sh: I have not tried already
[04:33] <\sh> deb http://archive.linux-server.org/ breezy/i386/
[04:34] <\sh> apokryphos / riddell: http://pastebin.com/365499 <--- thats one problem report of a user
[04:34] <mitsuhiko> moin
[04:34] <Riddell> hello mitsuhiko 
[04:34] <mitsuhiko> here comes another amarok tester
[04:34] <apokryphos> I get amaroK: [Loader]  Don't run gdb, valgrind, etc. against this binary! Use amarokapp.   too
[04:34] <Riddell> apokryphos: that's expected
[04:35] <mitsuhiko> apokryphos: that's expected
[04:35] <mitsuhiko> arr. to late
[04:35] <apokryphos> Apart from that, I don't get anything else really
[04:35] <Riddell> QLayout: Adding KToolBar/mainToolBar (child of QVBox/unnamed) to layout for PlaylistWindow/PlaylistWindow
[04:35] <Riddell> KCrash: Application 'amarok' crashing...
[04:35] <mitsuhiko> \sh: as i said. works very well with my checkinstall deb but refuses to work with the dcop server if i use yours
[04:36] <Riddell> hmm
[04:36] <\sh> Riddell: I adjusted the depends of amarok after the first package accordingly to your 1.2.4 package...so it will install now only amarok-gstreamer
[04:36] <mitsuhiko> \sh: thx
[04:36] <\sh> by default
[04:37] <mitsuhiko> \sh: and something else is strange. alsasrc doesn't appear in the gstreamer list
[04:38] <Riddell> \sh: I doin't see that on the package I just downloaded, "Depends: amarok-engines" it doesn't mention gstreamer
[04:38] <mitsuhiko> \sh: if I delete the amarok config it starts one time and crashes afterwards :)
[04:38] <\sh> Riddell: i didn't build it until now..have to wait for wine
[04:38] <Riddell> \sh: right
[04:39] <Riddell> oh for god sakes amarok, how do I get to my songs!
[04:39] <Riddell> I just want a playlist with all my music in it damnit!
[04:39] <\sh> Package: amarok
[04:39] <\sh> Architecture: any
[04:39] <\sh> Depends: amarok-gstreamer | amarok-engines | amarok-engine, ${shlibs:Depends}
[04:39] <mitsuhiko> Riddell: scan your music directory
[04:39] <\sh> this is updated version
[04:39] <Riddell> mitsuhiko: don't that (through build-collection).  but no songs appear in the playlist
[04:40] <Riddell> s/don't/done/
[04:40] <\sh> the playlist appears only after build-collection
[04:40] <\sh> what you want is files ;)
[04:40] <mitsuhiko> Riddell: hm. that was the only thing that worked for me
[04:40] <Riddell> I have files, nothing has appeared
[04:40] <\sh> works for me
[04:41] <mitsuhiko> can someone check if alsasrc appears in the gstreamer config page in amarok?
[04:41] <apokryphos> you can of course drag from konqueror into playlist
[04:41] <mitsuhiko> s/alsasrc/alsaink
[04:41] <Riddell> ah, build collection again and it's put them all in collection
[04:41] <\sh> mitsuhiko: it's amarok default...oss instead of alsa
[04:41] <mitsuhiko> \sh: thx for the font page btw. works good
[04:42] <Riddell> now how do I get a playlist with everything in it?
[04:42] <mitsuhiko> \sh: i refuse to use oss!
[04:42] <\sh> mitsuhiko: 1.2.4 had a riddell patch for that to use oss instead of alsa...and amarok 1.3.1 has it now as default in it...
[04:42] <mitsuhiko> \sh: why should i use oss?
[04:42] <apokryphos> Riddell: everything from your collection, or all your music? If you drag all the files into the playlist then you can save the playlist
[04:43] <\sh> mitsuhiko: amarok-1.3.1/amarok/src/engine/gst/config/gstconfig.kcfg
[04:44] <Riddell> why should I have to drag everything into the middle?  I just want it to show me all my songs by default damnit
[04:44] <Riddell> grr
[04:44] <apokryphos> Riddell: you have to tell it where to look first, of course :)
[04:44] <\sh> Riddell: it should play musik
[04:45] <Riddell> apokryphos: I have told it where to look, but then nothing appears in the playlist unless I selection everything in "collection" and drag it on
[04:45] <Riddell> which is crazy
[04:45] <apokryphos> Yes, it's a different method. Static playlist, not a dynamic one.
[04:46] <apokryphos> (though you can make dynamic playlists too somehow)
[04:46] <Riddell> apokryphos: how do I make one of those?
[04:47] <\sh> mitsuhiko: which version did u checkinstalled?
[04:47] <mitsuhiko> \sh: 1.3.0
[04:48] <\sh> JRe: do u have on unstable alsalink in 1.3.0?
[04:48] <apokryphos> Riddell: don't really know, I could try to find out. It is possible though -- click on "Playlists" on the navigation there on the left
[04:48] <mitsuhiko> \sh: my soundcard can't mix different sounds when using oss
[04:49] <mitsuhiko> so i use the much better alsa
[04:49] <Riddell> Smart Playlists->Collection->All Collection
[04:49] <Riddell> that is stupidly hard to find
[04:49] <\sh> mitsuhiko: this is not the problem...the thing is it's not in the source...
[04:49] <mitsuhiko> Oo
[04:49] <apokryphos> Riddell: some built up anger towards dear amaroK ;-)
[04:50] <\sh> mitsuhiko: which release version of amarok did u use for checkinstall? or build by yourself?
[04:50] <Riddell> apokryphos: too right, this thing need major usability thrown at it with a brick
[04:50] <mitsuhiko> \sh: here on my hoary pc i used 1.3-beta3, on the breezy machine 1.3
[04:51] <mitsuhiko> afaik. i'll check
[04:51] <\sh> mitsuhiko: selfbuild?
[04:51] <mitsuhiko> \sh: jep
[04:51] <mitsuhiko> \sh: the strange X-Server Message is from Xnest btw
[04:51] <tvo> Riddell:kde3.4.91 version of kio-locate --> http://home.casema.nl/junk/kio-locate_0.4.3-0ubuntu1.{orig.tar.gz,diff.gz,dsc}
[04:52] <\sh> mitsuhiko: ok
[04:52] <tvo> Riddell: sorry, this is the link: http://home.casema.nl/vollebregt/junk/kio-locate_0.4.3-0ubuntu1.{orig.tar.gz,diff.gz,dsc}
[04:52] <\sh> Riddell: but u didn't have any problems starting amarok?
[04:53] <\sh> only the obvious user error ;)
[04:53] <Riddell> \sh: well it crashed
[04:53] <Riddell> which I guess is a problem
[04:53] <mitsuhiko> rofl
[04:53] <\sh> yes it is
[04:53] <\sh> strange
[04:53] <\sh> it's running now here for 1 hour
[04:53] <Riddell> removing my ~/.kde/share/config/amarokrc and ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok stopped it crashing on startup
[04:54] <Riddell> stupidly I didn't save them so I can't go and find out what the problem was
[04:54] <\sh> with 80gb of mp3 inside
[04:54] <mitsuhiko> Riddell: same for me
[04:54] <Riddell> \sh: does crossfading work?
[04:54] <Riddell> mitsuhiko: crash on startup?
[04:54] <mitsuhiko> Riddell: but after first amarok restart it crashes again
[04:54] <mitsuhiko> Riddell: yeah
[04:54] <Riddell> taglib doesn't seem to be too happy
[04:54] <\sh> hmmm
[04:55] <\sh> no....it's not enabled
[04:55] <mitsuhiko> http://pastebin.com/365499 <== helps maybe
[04:55] <\sh> Riddell: gstreamer engine
[04:55] <\sh> Riddell: xine engine it's enable
[04:55] <\sh> d
[04:56] <\sh> come on wine...compile u stupid brainfck
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[04:57] <\sh> and crossfading with xine is working nicely
[04:58] <\sh> and xine engine has also alsa
[04:58] <Riddell> I'm sure crossfading used to work fine
[04:59] <\sh> Riddell: in 1.2.4 i had problems with gstreamer engine...
[04:59] <\sh>  GStreamer-engine was rewritten. The crossfading feature was removed for now (it didn't work right with recent GStreamer versions). Improvements: 1) Reduced CPU usage 2) Reduced latency 3) Increased stability
[04:59] <\sh> upstream changes
[05:00] <Riddell> bah
[05:00] <Riddell> why is crossfading so difficult i wonder
[05:02] <mitsuhiko> Riddell: because oss only supports one sound source
[05:02] <mitsuhiko> but alsa could do it out of the box afaik
[05:03] <\sh> Riddell: any idea to get alsa back into gstreamer engine?
[05:03] <Riddell> the crossfading is done by gstreamer, not the sound driver
[05:03] <Riddell> \sh: nope, does the configure output complain about missing alsa anything?
[05:05] <\sh> Riddell: not that I saw
[05:05] <\sh> Riddell: but it's not even in the gst config stuff...only ossink
[05:09] <Riddell> \sh: seems it was disabled for 1.3.1, it's back now in SVN
[05:09] <mitsuhiko> \sh: i think i've found the problem
[05:09] <Riddell> \sh: because it caused crashes
[05:10] <\sh> Riddell: so for 1.3.1 we don't have alsa 
[05:10] <\sh> for gstreamer
[05:10] <Riddell> \sh: yep
[05:10] <\sh> Riddell: ok...but we're sure to have it in breezy?
[05:11] <Riddell> \sh: to have what?
[05:13] <\sh> Riddell: to have 1.3.1 in breezy? I have to talk to mdz this evening...:( 
[05:13] <\sh> and wine is bugging me as well *bytinginmydesk*
[05:16] <Riddell> mitsuhiko: what problem have you found?
[05:17] <mitsuhiko> Riddell: sill working on it :(
[05:17] <mitsuhiko> s/sill/still
[05:17] <tvo> Riddell: you can give me another package to package somewhere this weekend
[05:22] <mitsuhiko> \sh: hey. it's working..
[05:22] <mitsuhiko> but not as i expected
[05:22] <\sh> mitsuhiko: what is it?
[05:22] <Riddell> tvo: a KDE 3.5 package?
[05:22] <tvo> Riddell: yup
[05:22] <mitsuhiko> \sh: first starup --> crash
[05:23] <Riddell> tvo: have you done one already?
[05:23] <mitsuhiko> \sh: second start --> working
[05:23] <tvo> Riddell: well, kio-locate ;)
[05:23] <\sh> mitsuhiko: sqlite?
[05:23] <mitsuhiko> \sh: jep
[05:23] <tvo> Riddell: Armin released a 0.4.3 and i just ran it through pbuilder bladieblah and upped it, you got the link?
[05:24] <\sh> mitsuhiko: this is one thing I can live with ;)
[05:24] <mitsuhiko> \sh: /me also, because i'm using mysql and nfs
[05:24] <Riddell> tvo: are there any differences?  has your stuff gone into it?
[05:24] <mitsuhiko> but in this test case i tried the default values
[05:24] <\sh> mitsuhiko: yes...but I wonder why it didn't crash for me
[05:25] <\sh> mitsuhiko: cause I'm using sqlite 
[05:25] <mitsuhiko> hm
[05:25] <mitsuhiko> dunno
[05:25] <tvo> Riddell: yes, it's my 0.4.2tvo0.2 with a few additions to gui / docs, and a german translation, no code changes
[05:26] <\sh> ok..I'm taking a nap now...and will talk to mdz about freeze break
[05:26] <tvo> he put 0.4.2tvo0.2 and 0.4.3 on his website at the same time, and send me the .diff between them
[05:27] <tvo> s/send/sent/
[05:30] <tvo> Riddell: so I branched and patched and created a package of 0.4.3
[05:34] <Riddell> tvo: but probably not worth getting it into ubuntu archives
[05:35] <mitsuhiko> \sh: working
[05:36] <\sh> mitsuhiko: ok...
[05:36] <tvo> Riddell: not official breezy repos, way too much hassle with all kinds of freezes probably
[05:36] <mitsuhiko> \sh: but crashing when using xine, alsa and enabling fading
[05:37] <tvo> Riddell: are you trying to get kde 3.5 into ubuntu archives? or will it be like 3.4.2 for hoary?
[05:37] <\sh> mitsuhiko: hmmm...no
[05:38] <\sh> mitsuhiko: STRANGE....
[05:38] <\sh> mitsuhiko: it's working here
[05:39] <mitsuhiko> \sh: mom
[05:42] <mitsuhiko> \sh: http://img321.imageshack.us/my.php?image=donthavefuckingarts2gz.png
[05:42] <mitsuhiko> only happens on my gnome account
[05:42] <\sh> mitsuhiko: I'm running gnome ;)
[05:43] <mitsuhiko> but i don't have arts
[05:43] <\sh> mitsuhiko: I don't have arts either
[05:43] <mitsuhiko> you're the programming dude --> fix it ^^
[05:43] <\sh> mitsuhiko: in my kde profile i switched off arts
[05:44] <\sh> mitsuhiko: but I think this comes from clean config...so no config file?
[05:44] <mitsuhiko> \sh: fresh user account
[05:44] <mitsuhiko> i deleted blackbird. only for you :)
[05:44] <\sh> hehe
[05:45] <\sh> mitsuhiko: ok...try to disable arts in your kconftrol
[05:45] <\sh> kcontrol even
[05:45] <mitsuhiko> ok. mom
[05:47] <mitsuhiko> ok
[05:47] <mitsuhiko> disabled
[05:47] <mitsuhiko> but
[05:47] <mitsuhiko> positive: only one error message :)
[05:47] <mitsuhiko> negative: amarok still crashing
[05:47] <\sh> grmpf
[05:47] <mitsuhiko> "xine konnte keine Audio-Treiber starten"
[05:47] <\sh> thats no crash...it's a warning
[05:48] <\sh> mitsuhiko: in "Einstellungen -> Engines" is arts as default?
[05:50] <mitsuhiko> \sh: nein. alsa
[05:50] <mitsuhiko> (wenn du jetzt amarok meinst)
[05:50] <mitsuhiko> arr. why i'm writing german? *gnabber*
[05:50] <\sh> mitsuhiko: hmm..und du hast esd laufen?
[05:50] <\sh> sht
[05:50] <mitsuhiko> ^^
[05:50] <\sh> lol
[05:50] <mitsuhiko> no esd running
[05:51] <\sh> mitsuhiko: arts or xine->arts?
[05:51] <\sh> grmpf
[05:51] <mitsuhiko> xine->alsa
[05:52] <\sh> hmm...just running here with xine->alsa..moment
[05:52] <mitsuhiko> \sh: erm. that's the same configuration as i'm running
[05:53] <\sh> yes..and no crash... just restarted the boogy
[05:55] <mitsuhiko> .oO(should i tell him, that everything works fine using amarok 1.3.0? better not)
[05:57] <mitsuhiko> \sh: hint: working without problem when i'm using KDE
[05:57] <\sh> mitsuhiko: 1.3.1?
[05:58] <mitsuhiko> \sh: jep
[05:58] <Riddell> \sh:   amarok-gstreamer: Depends: gstreamer0.8-mad but it is not installable
[05:58] <\sh> Riddell: installed here
[05:58] <mitsuhiko> root@majakin:~# apt-cache search gstreamer | grep mad
[05:58] <mitsuhiko> gstreamer0.8-mad - MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer
[05:59] <Riddell> it's in universe
[05:59] <mitsuhiko> jep
[05:59] <mitsuhiko> amarok too
[05:59] <Riddell> amarok is in main
[05:59] <mitsuhiko> Riddell: did i missed something?
[05:59] <\sh> grmpf
[06:00] <\sh> he is right
[06:00] <mitsuhiko> wow
[06:00] <\sh> -mad are the mp3 stuff
[06:01] <Riddell> it shouldn't compile against it, it's all plugins
[06:01] <Riddell> just installed amarok 1.3.1 on top of 1.2 and it's working fine
[06:01] <\sh> Riddell: fixed..it was an error in substvars
[06:02] <Riddell> apart from it seems to think my Abba collection is authored by Academy of St Martin in the Fields
[06:02] <mitsuhiko> \sh: so amarok can play out-of-the box only ogg?
[06:02] <Riddell> mitsuhiko: out the box it can play whatever it has gstreamer plugins for
[06:02] <mitsuhiko> Riddell: not mp3 :)
[06:02] <\sh> mitsuhiko: yes
[06:02] <Riddell> mitsuhiko: we don't have mp3 plugins in the box so no
[06:02] <\sh> mitsuhiko: gstreamer0.8-mad is in universe because unsupported
[06:03] <Riddell> because of evil patents
[06:03] <mitsuhiko> Riddell: i thought restricted could be a proper home for -mad
[06:04] <Riddell> mitsuhiko: I havn't heard of that, although it's not a daft idea
[06:05] <\sh> we don't want to pay patent fees
[06:05] <mitsuhiko> .oO(fuck software patents)
[06:05] <\sh> anyways...I will take a nap for one hour...
[06:06] <\sh> please leave a query or whatever....will catch up later...
[06:58] <mitsuhiko> \sh: small update
[07:00] <mitsuhiko> \sh: works well using xine and esd, but having again the problem with dcopserver
[07:03] <Riddell> mitsuhiko: what's the problem?
[07:03] <mitsuhiko> Riddell: german error message
[07:03] <mitsuhiko> mom
[07:04] <mitsuhiko> correcting.. english
[07:04] <mitsuhiko> There was an error setting up the inter-process communications for KDE. This Message retunred by the System was
[07:04] <mitsuhiko> Could not read network connection list:
[07:05] <mitsuhiko>  /home/blackbird/.DCOPServer_majakin_0
[07:05] <mitsuhiko> Please check that the dcopserver is running!
[07:05] <Riddell> mitsuhiko: under KDE?
[07:05] <Riddell> or gnome?
[07:05] <mitsuhiko> Riddell: gnome
[07:06] <mitsuhiko> Riddell: when i delete the amarok config everything works 2 restarts
[07:06] <Riddell> hmm
[07:09] <mitsuhiko> Riddell: worked in 1.3.0 without a problem
[07:33] <\sh> back from nap
[07:35] <\sh> so any objections toward amarok 1.3.1 in breezy?
[07:43] <mitsuhiko> \sh: look above
[07:43] <\sh> mitsuhiko: ok...
[07:43] <mitsuhiko> :)
[07:43] <\sh> I think it's more a problem with some custom setups
[07:44] <mitsuhiko> \sh: works without a problem in 1.3.0
[07:44] <mitsuhiko> and 2 times after deleting the config
[07:44] <\sh> mitsuhiko: well..from 1.2.4 to 1.3.1 worked he as well :) 
[07:44] <\sh> here even
[07:44] <mitsuhiko> hm
[07:44] <mitsuhiko> maybe i'm to stupid ^^
[07:45] <\sh> but I know that amarok had problems with upgrades 
[08:00] <\sh> ok from mdz
[08:01] <\sh> doing a last testbuild to see if all depends/suggests etc. are in the right place
[08:01] <mitsuhiko> \sh: KeyStrokes Font powered by a Friend of \sh in Action: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WikiSandkasten
[08:03] <\sh> mitsuhiko: u found something for u?
[08:04] <mitsuhiko> \sh: jep
[08:04] <\sh> mitsuhiko: if you find some new fonts which are not in the archive...please add..i think djsnoopy will love it :) 
[08:05] <mitsuhiko> \sh: i found at least 5000 of them: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=9883
[08:05] <\sh> mitsuhiko: when they're not in crazyfonts.de please add :)
[08:05] <mitsuhiko> O_o
[08:06] <mitsuhiko> .oO(\sh must think i can slow down the time)
[08:07] <\sh> hehe
[08:43] <\sh> amarok upload now
[08:44] <JRe> nice :)
[08:45] <\sh> Riddell: I will get all the blame when some things are not working 
[08:46] <Riddell> \sh: just blame it on sabdfl, he forced it in :)
[08:47] <\sh> Riddell: he tested it ;)
[09:36] <\sh> amarok just finished to compile on all three main archs..welcome it warmly :)