[02:59] <jjesse> besides the email Riddell sent out is there a Kubuntu Breezy release notes?
[03:04] <Riddell> jjesse: no, just the e-mail and the Known Problems wiki page
[03:05] <Riddell> jjesse: adept has passed new and is currently in main inclusion
[03:05] <Riddell> jjesse: so it's still an open question if it'll be in breezy I'm afraid
[03:05] <jjesse> Riddell: thanks for both answers
[03:05] <jjesse> Riddell should i use kpakcage for the docs ?
[03:05] <Riddell> jjesse: no, kynaptic or adept
[03:05] <Riddell> adept would be more hopeful
[03:05] <jjesse> Riddell: ok 
[03:06] <jjesse> Riddell: then i guess i will go to work on cleaning up the release notes 
[03:06] <Riddell> jjesse: which release notes?
[03:07] <jjesse> Riddell: that are currently in svn
[03:08] <jjesse> Riddell: http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/kde/krelease-notes/C/kreleasenotes.html  is the current preview
[03:09] <Riddell> jjesse: excellent!
[03:09] <jjesse> Riddell: those were written already, i just started looking at it
[03:10] <Riddell> not entirely accurate, but pretty cool
[03:10] <Riddell> I need to go to bed but we should look over these at some point
[03:11] <jjesse> ok i was going to start w/ the basic section on upgrade notes and we can chat about the rest
[05:00] <jsgotangco> morning people
[05:02] <Burgundavia> salut jsgotangco 
[05:03] <jsgotangco> hey Burgundavia what's up
[05:03] <Burgundavia> not much
[05:03] <Burgundavia> been daydreaming/brainstorming about an OEM pack
[05:03] <Burgundavia> what would need to be in it, etc.
[05:03] <jsgotangco> we're supposed to have an OEM installer right
[05:04] <Burgundavia> it would contain cds,docs on how to set up the isntaller, multicast installation, marketing materials, etc.
[05:04] <Burgundavia> yes we do have one
[05:04] <jsgotangco> hrmmmm
[05:04] <Burgundavia> not that easy to use currently
[05:04] <jsgotangco> MS has this OEM system builder thing
[05:04] <Burgundavia> yes
[05:04] <jsgotangco> i have a pack i can look into it
[05:05] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco, sweet
[05:05] <jsgotangco> i haven't really delved into the OEM installer but i can do it this weekend
[05:05] <jsgotangco> LWC has been eating time
[05:05] <Burgundavia> the oem installer is not documented anywhere currently
[05:05] <jsgotangco> hrrmmmm
[05:06] <Burgundavia> apparently there will be a new version that allows running of the oem installer from the regular installer, ala the server install
[05:06] <Burgundavia> I was talking to Kamion about it
[05:07] <jsgotangco> for dapper?
[05:07] <Burgundavia> no, for breezy
[05:07] <jsgotangco> hrmmm
[05:07] <jsgotangco> you mean we'll have breezy.5?
[05:07] <Burgundavia> no
[05:07] <jsgotangco> oh it will go in then
[05:08] <Burgundavia> it is just a minor option to allow easier OEM installs
[05:08] <Burgundavia> we also need a good multicast server implementation for installs
[05:09] <jsgotangco> mmm
[05:11] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco, is this something that you are interested in as well?
[05:12] <jsgotangco> yes
[05:12] <jsgotangco> i'll look at it later i have a talk in an hour
[05:12] <Burgundavia> cool
[05:13] <jsgotangco> yeah LinuxWorld here has been spiffy
[05:13] <jjesse> in order to get the validate.sh to work what package do i have to have installed?
[05:14] <Burgundavia> all the big trades shows are back east or in the US
[05:14] <jsgotangco> well there's not much FOSS people here so there's always a core group
[05:14] <jsgotangco> but it has been changing
[06:12] <alexv> Hi, I noticed an oddly worded section in Chapter 1 of the Ubuntu Users Guide. There's a line that reads    "If you've reached this page I assume you either heard the news about it and want to install and get it up and running although being not sure how to go about it."     Shouldn't that be "not being sure" instead of "being not sure"?
[07:49] <Burgundavia> bon soir, robitaille 
[07:49] <robitaille> hello Burgundavia 
[07:50] <robitaille> cool, my wife got a odt document in an email from a friend of her.  that's a first.  I actually had to look it up to figure out what it was
[07:51] <robitaille> OOo2 reads it.  Not sure if OOo1 on Hoary can
[07:52] <rob^> omg.. life
[07:53] <Burgundavia> robitaille, the new OO1's sould be able to
[07:55] <robitaille> yes.  But my wife uses a computer with Hoary.   I'll have to try it out. wikepedia seems to imply only 1.1.5 reads it.
[07:55] <Burgundavia> yes
[07:55] <robitaille> but I'm still amaze that she got this format instead of the usual .doc file
[07:56] <Burgundavia> expect more of them
[08:38] <Madpilot> hi all
[08:39] <Burgundavia> salut Madpilot 
[08:39] <Madpilot> hi Burgundavia
[08:39] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, scorched3d is now installed by has no sound
[08:39] <Burgundavia> and tha tis phone
[09:32] <Treenaks> Is there a reason that the entire changelog, the Creative Commons license and the GFDL are in Rosetta for the FAQ Guide
[09:32] <Burgundavia> Treenaks, hmm
[09:32] <Treenaks> because those licenses have official translations.. and re-translating is pointless
[09:33] <Burgundavia> Treenaks, I have no idea
[09:33] <Treenaks> Burgundavia: so, who do I talk to to get it fixed? :)
[09:34] <Burgundavia> Treenaks, mdke is probably the best bet
[09:34] <Treenaks> Burgundavia: ok
[09:34] <Treenaks> mdke: are you reading this? :)
[09:39] <Burgundavia> Treenaks, mdke should come online soon. Is 8am where he lives
[09:40] <Treenaks> Burgundavia: 8:39 probably then :)
[09:40] <Burgundavia> ya
[10:01] <Treenaks> mdke: also, commands shouldn't be in there ("sudo apt-get update" is the same everywhere.. some placeholders may not be, but you could mark only those commands)
[11:04] <mdke> Treenaks, hello
[11:04] <Treenaks> mdke: hi :) did you read the backlog
[11:04] <Treenaks> ?
[11:04] <mdke> some of it
[11:04] <mdke> there is not a lot we can do
[11:05] <Treenaks> mdke: Well, especially the part about there being too many strings (i.e. the entire GFDL and CC licenses) in rosetta
[11:05] <mdke> i think the licences should be left in english
[11:05] <Treenaks> mdke: can't you mark stuff as "don't put in rosetta" ?
[11:05] <mdke> Treenaks, not to my knowledge
[11:06] <Treenaks> sounds like a wishlist item then ;)
[11:06] <mdke> because we expand the identities in the documents, it means that the licences went in there
[11:07] <Treenaks> mdke: it also means that everyone will have to skip ~ 10 pages of licence crap to get to the actual document text
[11:07] <Treenaks> mdke: which sucks :)
[11:07] <mdke> i'll ask around and see if there is anything we can do
[11:07] <Treenaks> cool, thanks
[11:08] <mdke> Treenaks, if they mark the licence crap as translated (copy over the English) then they won't have to skip it
[11:08] <Treenaks> mdke: true..
[11:13] <mdke> Treenaks, ok I'll let you know
[04:06] <dand> is there a deadline for ubuntu-doc translation freeze?
[04:07] <mdke> nope
[04:07] <mdke> sooner the better of course
[04:07] <dand> ok, so we can be sure that any corrections done today will be included in the release
[04:07] <mdke> that is correc
[04:07] <mdke> t
[04:07] <dand> k, thanks!
[04:08] <mdke> significantly later than today in fact
[04:08] <dand> :)
[04:24] <mdke> translations are looking good for about-ubuntu
[04:24] <mdke> a lot of templates have just 1 translation outstanding however :/
[04:24] <Treenaks> mdke: yes, the translator-credits
[04:24] <Treenaks> mdke: which should be automatic
[04:25] <mdke> Treenaks, actually that is not the outstanding voice for all the templates
[04:25] <mdke> on some it is though
[04:26] <mdke> Treenaks, so that should be automatic eh?
[04:26] <mdke> what can we do to fix that?
[04:27] <Treenaks> poke launchpad people :)
[04:28] <mdke> Treenaks, can't the translators fill it in themselves?
[04:36] <mpt> mdke: No, because "translator-credits" is a single line, so Rosetta thinks it should be a single line, but the "translation" needs to be multiple lines, one for each person
[04:44] <mdke> mpt, hmm, is this a bug with our template, or with rosetta?
[04:44] <mpt> bug in Rosetta
[04:44] <mdke> ok
[04:44] <mdke> mpt, can you think of a workaround?
[04:44] <mpt> <a href="https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/116">https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/116</a>
[04:44] <mpt> oh, silly Gaim
[04:45] <mdke> ok got it
[04:45] <mpt> not that I know of
[04:46] <mdke> k thanks
[05:50] <jsgotangco> hey all
[06:14] <jsgotangco> jbailey: dude i won an RHCE training and exam pack
[06:14] <jsgotangco> heh
[06:14] <jbailey> Nice!
[06:14] <jbailey> The exams are apparently really hard.
[06:14] <jbailey> Have a huge practical component
[06:14] <jsgotangco> yeah well i have the end of the year to take it anyways
[06:14] <jsgotangco> jbailey: it'll help for sure
[06:14] <jbailey> Like 3 months?
[06:15] <jbailey> That's brutal short.
[06:15] <jsgotangco> not possible?
[06:15] <jsgotangco> gahhh
[06:15] <jbailey> It's possible, sure.
[06:15] <jbailey> Just a bit presumptuous that yo uhappen to have time free RIGHT NOW, DAMMIT
[06:15] <jbailey> =)
[06:15] <jsgotangco> lol
[06:15] <jbailey> Novell and Cisco voutures are usualy good for a year.
[06:16] <jsgotangco> ahh well LinuxWorld over here was pretty cool..actually very good for a first effort
[07:52] <jsgotangco> good night