[12:11] crimsun: hp_only works for me :-) [12:11] crimsun: with the breezy version of things :-) [12:13] Nafallo: after using /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, correct? :) [12:13] crimsun: yepp :-). updating the bugreport now :-). [12:13] Nafallo: excellent, thanks. [12:14] crimsun: thank you, this bug has followed me since warty ;-). [12:17] I added the output of lspci -vns 00:11.5 :-) [12:17] should be enough for them to add hp_only as default :-) [12:20] sigh, \sh did gnue-forms as well === ajmitch is going to have to overwrite that change asap anyway [12:23] <\sh> what? [12:23] <\sh> did I catch one of your? [12:23] <\sh> s [12:23] yes [12:23] one of my debian packages [12:23] that I was waiting to get through NEW in debian [12:23] so that I could sync the whole lot of gnue-* packages together [12:24] <\sh> ajmitch: bah...I just adjusted the build-deps [12:24] <\sh> ajmitch: sorry for that [12:25] it's ok [12:25] but the whole lot needs updated [12:25] to properly work with the wxversion stuff [12:25] patch needed to be applied in just the right place for it to work [12:26] <\sh> ajmitch: python stuff...? [12:27] <\sh> should be applied after import wxversion and before import wxPython bla [12:27] <\sh> just like I did with bittorrent-gui [12:27] I've already done it :P [12:27] I know what to do, but you need to know where to patch gnue-forms for it to work properly [12:28] so the package is installable but not very usable at the moment in breezy [12:28] <\sh> ajmitch: the package was an ubuntu package at all...do an update upload ;) [12:28] I'm going to ask for the sync [12:29] since it fixes other issues [12:29] <\sh> it just happend today that I uploaded an Xubunu1 package ;) [12:31] I initially interpreted that as Xubuntu and thought, "Wait, you didn't ping jani and me first?" ;) [12:31] <\sh> crimsun: lol...no ;) [12:40] hmm, what's with that guy & "paco" who goes "quoting" everything? [12:41] <\sh> ajmitch: ?? [12:41] ubuntu-devel :) === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marce [n=marce@2001:6f8:929:0:0:0:0:9] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@205.134.224.215] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:39] <\sh> ajmitch: have a second? [01:41] <\sh> ajmitch: php4-sqlite -> Depends: phpapi-20020918 | zendapi-20020429 but installed in /usr/lib/php4/20050606 [01:41] yeah [01:41] looks broken :) [01:41] <\sh> damn [01:41] fwiw.. [01:41] Package: php4-kadm5 [01:41] Architecture: any [01:41] Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, phpapi-20020918 [01:41] ugh [01:41] no php:Depends [01:41] <\sh> yeah [01:41] <\sh> I have to fix this shit [01:42] :) [01:42] <\sh> I will use the substvar stuff === ajmitch is at work, is busy coding today [01:42] I'll do a bit tomorrow once we get to our bug day [01:42] <\sh> ajmitch: u agree with substvars? [01:43] yes [01:43] <\sh> k [01:43] not that you need my agreement :) [01:43] Tomorrow is bug day? [01:43] bddebian: yes, it starts in 12 hours & 15min [01:44] well [01:44] Eeks [01:44] 11:30 if you count chatham islands ;) [01:44] but I don't think we have any ubuntu people out there [01:45] <\sh> fixing the packages [01:45] thanks === ajmitch wishes he could help more at the moment [01:46] Yeah, whatever d00d. ;-) [01:47] <\sh> I bugged them, I fixem up [01:47] bddebian: you're right, I don't want to help any of you, and & hate you all [01:47] sound better? [01:47] :-) [01:47] ;) === bddebian hugs ajmitch === ajmitch goes into retirement as a hasbeen motu === StrikeForce [n=marc@203-59-214-173.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:48] Heh [01:48] ajmitch: tss ;-) === bddebian only knows how to sync and rebuild. :'-( [01:49] bddebian: tsssss [01:49] <\sh> grmpf [01:49] <\sh> sqlite pulls in the old depends again..but now as well with new php depends [01:50] heh [01:51] <\sh> damnit [01:51] <\sh> dh_makeshlibs *grrr* === \sh needs really really new glasses [01:59] <\sh> grmpf [02:18] joy [02:18] freeloader has debian/ built-in :-P [02:18] and it's empty ;-) [02:21] <\sh> grmpf [02:21] <\sh> two packages more and I'm done with php shit [02:22] :-) [02:24] <\sh> after them I'm falling into bed === cogumbreiro [n=tiago@81.20.250.82] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:26] lo all === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:29] <\sh> hi cogumbreiro nice to have u here [02:29] thx :) [02:30] cogumbreiro, arent you also writing this dialup tool ? === ogra thinksits a shame he forgot the name [02:30] gnome-ppx? [02:31] yup [02:31] I was but I don't have a dialup connection anymore [02:31] since i've bought a router :) [02:31] heh.. [02:31] and didn't see much interest from the community in it [02:31] thats an area where ubuntu still lacks good tools [02:31] it was a dialup for broadband connections [02:32] I would love to recreate it in pygtk ;) but still I lack the hardware to try it... [02:32] ubuntu has only pppoeconf ... its easy, reliable and does the job... but its 100% commandline [02:32] unless there's a mock ppp plugin outthere === \sh is fixing now on two frontiers...unmet deps + kde [02:32] gnome-ppx solves that totally [02:32] but alas... [02:33] that's an area I love to work, finding applications that are missing in my distro, ubuntu is specially greate because it shares my principles (loves open source, gnome and python) [02:35] heh, thats what pulled me in too :) [02:36] <\sh> and I was pulled in by ogra and the theory of "I just works out of the box" === StrikeForce [n=marc@203-59-213-236.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] <\sh> ok..all php4-extentions fixed, tested, uploaded === mpt [n=mpt@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:38] oh, mpt was here ? [02:38] <\sh> fixing knoda [02:39] motu is about packaging programs, right? [02:39] cogumbreiro, that too [02:39] what more? [02:40] cogumbreiro, packaging, fixing stuff, packaging your own stuff, finding apps to package etc [02:40] everything you can do with packages :) [02:40] ogra: i've never done that, i feel intregued by it :P [02:40] and with universe [02:40] <\sh> we're the gateway from the community into the archives...all software which is wished for from the community, we will check and package [02:40] Ho hum, more syncs :-( [02:41] <\sh> shermann@shermann-laptop:~/pbuilder/result/breezy$ du -m [02:41] <\sh> 53 . [02:41] <\sh> hmmm... [02:41] <\sh> not much today [02:41] cogumbreiro, its very easy to understand if you tried it for some time... === Nafallo tries to build hos freeloader package [02:47] based _heavily_ on gajims debian/* ;-) [02:48] kewl [02:48] only build-deps from main :-) [02:50] heh [02:53] hmm [02:53] Nafallo: ping? [02:53] slomo: pong :-) [02:53] Nafallo: please write me a test mail ;) [02:53] lol [02:54] Nafallo: at the u.c address :) [02:54] sent :-) [02:55] All this mozilla-locale-* crap wants mozilla-browser < 2:1.6.1 ?? [02:55] <\sh> change it ;) [02:55] <\sh> fix it ;) [02:55] Nafallo: thanks :) [02:56] To what? I don't even know if they're valid anymore? [02:56] <\sh> so test it ;) [02:56] they probably aren't valid [02:56] ajmitch: That's my guess === ajmitch wonders why \sh_away left the py 2.3 bindings in lasso but didn't put in 2.4? ;) [03:04] ah darn, he's gone off to sleep [03:12] OK, time for "LOST". BBL === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:22] our new servers are named after Lost [03:23] we have charlie, locke, sawyer, kate, and jack [04:11] any pointers on creating a patch for a source package that has the source code in a tar file? Can I create a meaningful debdiff from that? [04:13] bmonty: does it use cdbs? [04:14] Lathiat: nope, it uses debhelper [04:14] I looking at the ace source package [04:14] well i mean you can apply a patch with the debian stuff (dpatch style etc) [04:15] ok, and then can I give a debdiff to someone to try on amd64 and/or powerpc? [04:16] yes [04:16] because the patch gets applied after the tarball is unpacked [04:17] sounds good [04:25] so can anyone have access to build a package on a powerpc or amd64? [04:29] in a few hours I can do ppc :) [04:30] ajmitch: I'll be going to bed in a few, so I'll post a link to the debdiff in a sec, ok? [04:30] ok [04:36] ajmitch: the debdiff is at http://www.montynet.org/ubuntu/debdiff/ace_5.4.7-3ubuntu1.debdiff [04:36] this is an experiment, I'm not sure if it will fix the problem :) [04:36] alright, will try & get some ppc time to take a look [04:36] thanks [04:37] it's a shread box, usually running OSX< that doesn't belong to me ;) [04:37] shared.. [04:39] ajmitch: ace takes awhile to compile, so hopefully the other folks sharing the box don't get upset :) [04:41] I'll do it overnight then ;) [04:42] I think it will fail quickly if the patch doesn't work (13k build log for failures vs. a 159k log for successful compile) [04:43] hopefully it works and then \sh will leave me alone :) === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] just got done taking a class on IPv6, and I noticed that you have to use -I with ping6 to ping a link local address, I think this is a bug....anyone know otherwise? [04:51] bmonty: no, it's not [04:51] it's perfectly reasonable according to the ipv6 spec :) [04:52] ajmitch: k, I just figured since the link local address in the route table and assigned to an interface, I should be able to ping it....like with an IPv4 address [04:52] " [04:52] "Using link-local addresses for an IPv6 ping, the kernel does not know through which (physically or virtual) device it must send the packet - each device has a link-local address" [04:53] Lathiat can verify all this ;) [04:53] use -I [04:54] oh you already knew that [04:54] ajmitch: I think it odd the spec would say that since the link local address has the MAC in it, I would think that would uniquely identify the interface [04:54] bmonty: nope [04:54] bmonty: no, your pinging a remote host [04:54] bm it could be on any interface [04:54] as the link local range applies to all interfaces equally [04:54] the kernel isnt going to "guess" which one is appropriate [04:54] so you have to specify it explicitly [04:56] Lathiat: I guess I'm confused, it would seem to me that kernel would know exactly what interface to use since the address is associated with only a specific single interface [04:56] Lathiat: your laptop not connected at the moment? [04:56] ajmitch: it is altho you may be tryign to ping my other laptop [04:56] or i was on wireless last time [04:56] Lathiat: yeah, the one I tried to merge off [04:57] when we were doing the bzr test [04:57] bmonty: how would it know? the only thing it knows by default is where it wants to send it [04:57] ajmitch: what address? [04:57] 2001:388:c0fe:0:211:43ff:fe62:698d [04:57] bmonty: the ip has the *local* mac, [04:57] ajmitch: uh thast right, tunnels probably down [04:57] as you can see, my ipv6 tunnel is up & working :) [04:57] bmonty: in theory, the kernel could go arp otu all interfaces === ajmitch is glad for once that freenode has an ipv6 host [04:57] bmonty: and try find someone for the address [04:58] bmonty: but thats ugly, [04:58] that gets expensive for broadcast traffic === jsgotangco [n=jsg@61.9.48.122] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:58] that's one reason that ipv6 is not allowed at uni - too much broadcasting [04:58] hey jsgotangco [04:58] also the link local address doesn't necesarily have to have the mac address in it [04:58] ajmitch: thats because your uni has a worse network design than my house [04:59] it just happens most people autoconfigure an address with the mac [04:59] you can manually configure one [04:59] interesting...I'm also noticing that the link local address for eth0 has lo as the interface in the routing table [04:59] Lathiat: it's a real horror alright [04:59] and also use the 'privacy extensions' which create random addresses and change it every few minutes [04:59] morning guys [04:59] bmonty: eh? [04:59] ajmitch: try now? [05:00] rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1573.081/1598.446/1626.443/19.946 ms, pipe 2 [05:00] horrendous ping times :) [05:00] yeh [05:00] my link is being hammered === Lathiat uis uploading [05:00] ok [05:00] and iw ant it to hurry up so i tweaked wondershaper up into the laggy area [05:00] at least the linux & osx hosts in my flat are using ipv6 [05:00] has 44h left as it is :) [05:00] dunno about the 3 XP boxes [05:01] Lathiat: thanks for the info...I need to do some more playing :) [05:01] I'm planning on moving my home network to IPv6 [05:02] unfortunately my ISP won't give me a prefix, so I'm stuck tunneling to a 6bone gateway :( [05:02] Lathiat: how well does mdns6 work now? [05:02] bmonty: tunnel to aarnet [05:02] bmonty: most ISPs don't give out prefixes [05:02] ajmitch: on avahi? perfectly... [05:02] I was going to use he.net, but I'll check out aarnet [05:02] Lathiat: why would you suggest aarnet for him? [05:02] ajmitch: because im silly [05:02] :) [05:02] and assume everyone is in australia :) [05:03] bmonty: where are you? [05:03] in the middle of the US [05:03] :P [05:03] Nebraska [05:03] :) [05:04] Lathiat: I shoudl switch it on - easier than hacking the zone files to put my ipv6 addresses in :) [05:04] http://penguins.squaa.org/~lathiat/routes.txt fear :) [05:05] ajmitch: what is mdns6? [05:05] Lathiat: what system are you using there? [05:05] system? [05:06] all the 10.x routes? [05:06] Lathiat: looks very similar to a multipoint vpn I use [05:06] well, not very private :) [05:06] yes, all the 10.x routes [05:06] thats a bgp session to the perth wireless freenet [05:07] ah ok [05:07] the system I use is ethernet over udp [05:07] which im cheating and connected via a vpn to === Tonio- [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:07] so each of us runs a bgp router [05:08] hi [05:08] and can do local ipv6 routing over ipv4 === gabaug [n=gabe@209-254-131-118.ip.mcleodusa.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:08] hello [05:08] is there a tutorial on how to take an existing ubuntu pkg and upgrade it (for one's own purpose) to a newer version of the software it's packaging? [05:09] ajmitch: is there a service that does dynamic dns for IPv6, or do I need to run DHCP? [05:09] I don't understand [05:09] gabaug: It's covered in the new maintainers guide [05:09] why do you need to perform an update if it is for your own purpose ? [05:09] Tonio-: the libapache2-mod-perl2 pkg is horribly out of date [05:10] gabaug: do a search on www.debian-administration.org, I think they had an article about that [05:10] okay [05:10] do you want me to update it ? [05:10] Tonio-: and I can build it myself, but I'd prefer to repkg it so I can later go back to Ubuntu's pkgs when they get around to be updated [05:10] Tonio-: for distribution in Ubuntu? [05:10] yep ;) [05:11] well if you wanna make the package juste for you, I woul suggest a little ./configure && make & checkinstall [05:11] Tonio-: well, never done it before, but I'm interested [05:11] you will get a non clean but working package for personnal usage [05:11] Tonio-: how involved can it be just to upgrade an exisiting one? [05:11] okay juste let me check at this package ;) [05:11] good night everyone [05:12] Tonio-: I'm guessing there are some other ones (that depend on this one) that I'd like to upgrade too [05:12] I'll explain to you after [05:12] but where is the official source package ? [05:12] I mean do you have a direct link ? [05:13] apt-get source libapache2-mod-perl2 ? [05:13] I really don't know [05:13] does that not work? [05:13] I mean the new version [05:13] because this one is supposed to be to late no ? [05:13] too old excuse me [05:14] oh, yeah, sorry [05:14] -- Andres Salomon Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:28:07 -0400 [05:14] not too old [05:14] do you have breezy or hoary ? [05:14] http://perl.apache.org/dist/mod_perl-2.0-current.tar.gz [05:14] Hoary w/ BP [05:15] well the breezy version is up2date [05:15] what version? [05:15] libapache2-mod-perl2 (2.0.1-1) [05:16] the one is hoary is 1.99.14 and is from May 21, 2004 :) [05:16] wow, ok [05:16] hmm [05:16] any way to get that backported? or to backport it myself? :) [05:17] hum [05:17] complicated [05:17] because of apache dependancies [05:17] well, the apache shipped with hoary is actually supported by that version of mod_perl [05:18] I know b/c I built mod_perl 2.0.1 on Hoary with no problem (and the README says it supports the version of Apache Hoary ships with).. [05:19] the real issue for me is then installing all the perl libraries that I need...I hate installing them from CPAN b/c they break/won't install and/or then I have two things I have to keep track of upgrade-wise [05:20] I'm gonna send you that just wait [05:20] I can't [05:20] oh well, I'll install everything manually [05:21] and/or move away from mod_perl [05:21] but why don't you compile the module ? [05:21] isn't that easier ? [05:21] Tonio-: what do you mean? [05:22] well just compile the sources.......... [05:22] just build the package like one normally would do if no packaging system existed? [05:22] or wait for breezy (less than one month....) [05:22] I've done that for the mdo_perl package and it worked fine [05:22] yeah... [05:23] yep [05:23] the issue is I have a site I need to get online ASAP [05:23] that quite a few users use [05:23] the problem is that I can give you a source package you can easilly build, but you will have to install 15 packages before lol [05:23] but I can probably get most of it working w/o using mod_perl, so I'll probably do that [05:23] or create a chroot [05:23] king of pain in the ass [05:24] well, would you get that much improvement with it ? === wickedpuppy [n=wicked@cm131.epsilon162.maxonline.com.sg] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-137-116.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:42] hi all, Is it weird to have a package be in it's own build dependency? [05:42] LaserJock: that happens [05:42] LaserJock: often for compilers and things [05:43] LaserJock: what are you looking at? [05:43] smlnj, it is a compiler [05:43] right [05:43] basically the compiler needs to compile itself [05:43] so it needs to be "bootstrapped" [05:43] if yoru lucky there will be an installable previosu version of the package you can use to do that [05:44] well, that's the thing. pbuilder can't find it [05:45] it says that it need version >=110.51 and it looks like it can get 110.44-1 [05:45] I am trying to build 110.52 [05:45] ah fun [05:46] well to fix that anyway will require help from the buildd maintainers [05:46] not sure who to talk to about that [05:46] perhaps annoy ajmitch [05:46] ok [05:47] I will put it on the UniverseUnmetDeps wiki === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-137-116.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:19] Gnight folks === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-27-178.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:56] gnight all === cogumbreiro [n=tiago@81.20.250.82] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae [n=mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sivang [n=sivang@box79162.elkhouse.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-110.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === elbi [n=elbi@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marce [n=marce@2001:6f8:929:0:0:0:0:9] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marce_ [n=marce@2001:6f8:929:0:0:0:0:9] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marce_ is now known as Marce === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0281.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marce_ [n=marce@2001:6f8:929:0:0:0:0:9] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marce_ is now known as Marce [09:52] jesus... folks at microsoft are needing brain fix [09:53] ivoks: even more? === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-127-109.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:53] did you see new office ui? [09:53] with menus like: [09:53] Bring [09:53] to [09:53] front [09:53] instead of Bring to front [09:54] i told them that's fundamentaly wrong and will be great only for chinese and japanese [09:54] who read up -> down [09:54] and then i got replyed with: [09:55] Thanks for raising the issue and look forward to hearing comments down the road once you actually have a Chinese/Japanese build to play with. [09:55] only thing i could say [09:55] I'm not Asian but this new UI will be great for Asians. And, don't be disappointed, I won't be testing any Office or Ms product. I just wanted to tell you how bad your UI is. [09:57] http://mark.smugmug.com/photos/35597918-O.jpg - this is just to hard to swallow :) === koke [n=koke@adsl229-164.unizar.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:32] hi koke === pef [n=pef@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:39] hi [10:42] j^: what's the state of NM? [10:42] Mithrandir tell me [10:42] I thought you were hacking on it? [10:43] Mithrandir i am, still my packages is not uploaded to universe and nobody can tell me why [10:43] probably just miscommunication.. [10:43] j^: where are they? I'll take a look and upload after I've gotten a few other issues out of the way. [10:45] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=514 [10:46] Mithrandir i do whatever is needed, someone just has to tell me what that is. [10:48] Mithrandir: tseng and I uploaded already fwiw. [10:48] Nafallo: ook === jsgotangco [n=jsg@61.9.48.122] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:51] Nafallo but that was 10 days ago.. [10:52] j^: more I believe? :-) [10:52] i travelled many wifi hotspots since === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-110.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:04] j^: why do you move the init-scripts? [11:04] (re: NM) ;-) [11:04] Nafallo avahi has it that way and i looked good to me :) [11:04] *it [11:05] hehe [11:05] j^: well, hal and PowerManager have not :-P [11:05] j^: did you include my reload hack [11:05] Lathiat i have that is in ubuntu5, which is only at http://bootlab.org/~j/NetworkManager-breezy/ right now [11:06] it's on REVU to [11:06] Nafallo right === Lathiat is glad to see dhcdbd got fixed [11:07] silly thing had a * * * dbus system config [11:07] it was fixed in fedora, just that 1.8 was never uploaded to http://people.redhat.com/jvdias/dhcdbd/ [11:08] ah [11:12] fabbione: Are you sure the /dev/input/mice issue is udev-related? [11:12] fabbione: I see it almost always when using the ubuntu 2.6.12 kernel and never when using a custom 2.6.13. === koke [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:32] <\sh> moins === herzi [n=herzi@c180020.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herz1 [n=herzi@c180020.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:44] hi \sh [11:45] <\sh> morning ajmitch [11:50] ajmitch: had a chance to look at the avahi mono stuff? [11:53] nope [11:54] hmm [11:54] buildds busy? :-) [11:54] gcc, xorg, oo.o2 [11:55] something tells me I'm right :-P [11:55] Lathiat: it'd only take a few minutes :) [11:55] <\sh> Copying source file -> copying [pdumpfs-rsync_0.8.1-1ubuntu1_source.changes] -> copying [./admin] [11:55] <\sh> hmmm... [11:55] ajmitch: ok, whenever ;) [11:55] <\sh> is it me, or is my pbuilder fcking around? [11:56] Lathiat: well what differences are there apart from avahi-sharp in 0.5? [11:56] ajmitch: should be no packaging differences [11:56] and do you have any 0.5 deb material, or should I update myself? :) [11:57] i suppose i can do the rest ;) [11:57] ok [11:57] bzr then? ;) [11:57] we bumped a few sonames [11:57] ah [11:57] evil [11:57] i have no idea of the way to handle the transition in the package name [11:58] :) [11:58] ajmitch: perhaps add the mono stuff, send me a diff and i'll send it to ross who can sort the rest out ;) [11:58] is the lib not backwards compatible? [11:58] read the debian library packaging guide? [12:00] ajmitch: nope === ajmitch is just determining whether to I have to beat you round with the libtool manual, as the guide suggests [12:00] oh we've read that === Lathiat had to re-read it about 5 times [12:01] new functions, 1 removed function [12:01] ok, so 1 removed.. I guess that's an SONAME bump [12:01] it's not something I've had a lot of experience with === doko_ [n=doko@dsl-084-059-093-018.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:03] <\sh> Nafallo: could u check pdumpfs-rsync please? remove the tightened install-deps from control [12:03] <\sh> Nafallo: in pbuilder that is.. [12:03] ajmitch: If any interfaces have been added, removed, or changed since the last update, increment current, and set revision to 0. === \sh is actually too tired [12:03] and the package names appear to match the current number === Lathiat shrugs [12:03] im really ignorant of th ewhole thing [12:03] Lathiat: :) [12:05] \sh: apt-gets source :-) [12:06] Lathiat: well I've at least got avahi checked out from avn [12:06] svn [12:06] <\sh> Nafallo: yes.. [12:06] ajmitch: well, you really want the 0.5 tarball [12:07] Lathiat: I know :) [12:08] <\sh> wow...my eyes are really small... [12:09] <\sh> looks like I had a nice party yesterday [12:09] hm, laptop battery light is flashing red :) [12:09] heh [12:09] ajmitch: find pwoer? ;) [12:09] Lathiat: it means I have to walk upstairs [12:09] alternatively, power may be a good idea [12:10] <\sh> ajmitch: hmm...I wasn't drunk around 1am UTC? [12:10] \sh: not that I could tell ;) [12:10] <\sh> good..so no nice party === sedak [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:10] heheh === \sh needs a surgery before UBZ [12:10] <\sh> to look as pretty as ever [12:10] \sh: in pbuilder? [12:10] <\sh> Nafallo: yes [12:10] heh === ajmitch has still to decide if he's going to UBZ [12:11] <\sh> ajmitch: holi inn is full... [12:11] I know [12:11] <\sh> ajmitch: but u could sleep with treenaks in the hostel 10 mins from the hotel [12:12] probably too expensive for me anyway [12:12] I was going to try there :) [12:12] only $20/night [12:12] <\sh> ajmitch: 150 CAN $ last time i checked [12:12] <\sh> prefered rate ;) [12:13] yeah [12:13] so I'd have to pay for my food as well [12:13]