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ProdegyXHeylo Everyone12:00
topyliangryfix: you can of course set up your home dir so no-one can see inside12:00
angryfixhaha, there is always a way in unix, but i'm just experienced enough. He's connecting via SSH...i there a way to limit him through just SSH?12:00
angryfixtopyli: how can i do that?12:00
ProdegyXDenada Comos De Losat12:00
malkyyou can use chroot to do it12:00
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Pepsmy uhdcpd.conf says 'start 192.168.126.160\n end   192.168.126.169\n interface eth0'12:00
ompaulangryfix, have a look at this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/34959912:00
ProdegyXCan anyone please explain how to install a new theme12:00
sorush20 when I type hdparm /dev/hdc it takes a long time to return the results and just as I change the details for the hda as mentioned by HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument12:01
crimsunangryfix: why not just chmod 700 the top-level dir that you don't want him to have access to?12:01
ProdegyXIt says I need to Compile it first12:01
Pepscan anyone help with udhcpd?12:01
angryfixcrimsun: simple solution to the home folder, but I wanted to lock him out of everything,but his folder.12:01
topyliangryfix: chmod your home dir to some more nazi. but beware, your ~/public_html and such won't be available either then12:01
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AMIGrAveIs there a command line tool in ubuntu which allow to list tags in a flac file ?12:02
crimsunangryfix: no, meant if he still needs access to ~angryfix, allow him that, but chmod 700 ~angryfix/private_stuff12:02
nerdy2AMIGrAve, man metaflac12:02
crimsunAMIGrAve: metaflac12:02
angryfixoh ok12:02
AMIGrAvethanks dudes12:02
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Pepscan anyone help with udhcpd?12:03
Pepscan anyone help with udhcpd setup?12:04
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cevizogludoes anyone know a way to make xorg invert all pixels on the screen before rending to the display?12:04
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cevizoglus/rending/rendering12:04
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roadeurBonsoir12:05
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cyberwarriorhi again12:05
Pepscan anyone help with udhcpd setup?12:05
malkycevizoglu: don't see any, except putting that feature into the code and compiling it of cource :/12:06
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malkyerr: course12:06
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cevizoglumalky: ok12:06
topyliangryfix: better yet, if you have other users you don't want to discriminate: put these other users in a group named "angryfix-trusted" and give them more rights than your new friend12:06
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ompaulcyberwarrior, yeap, got a specific question?12:06
Krillemalky: is that all there is to getting a static IP on a *nix machine ?12:06
cyberwarriorompaul: i hope so12:07
malkyifconfig ?12:07
cyberwarriorompual: i get two errors12:07
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opoI have install a program (solfege) through apt and have been getting an error "ImportError: No Module named gtk2html2" when I run it, I have tried install libgtkhtml2-0 package with no luck. Any mind helping me out?12:07
ompaulcyberwarrior, tell the channel, I may not have the answer and you putting my name in there may mean that someone else thinks your being looked after12:07
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cyberwarriorcan;t open debian-installer.d/s72..... and *ror temporary failure in name resolution12:07
malkyopo : it's  a python module that misses12:07
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cyberwarriorthose two errors12:08
Pepscan anyone help with udhcpd setup?12:08
ompaulcyberwarrior, what kind of box, PC/mac or12:08
opomalky : how do I absolve this problem?12:08
cyberwarriorPc intel12:08
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ompaulcyberwarrior, what processor12:08
pybePeps: http://udhcp.busybox.net/README.udhcpd12:08
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cyberwarriorintel p312:08
ompaulcyberwarrior, ram?12:08
cyberwarrior12812:08
cyberwarrior128 Mb ram12:09
thrushopo: two hail marys and three our fathers12:09
concept10this is really irking me:  somehow I have made my controls (minimize, etc.) in gnome smaller than normal.. anyone know how to fix this?12:09
ompaulcyberwarrior, that is okay12:09
cyberwarriork12:09
Krilleaactiually, i think the IP was stored12:09
opothrush : cry :-(12:09
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sorush20guys I keep getting stalled.12:09
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malkyopo : is it gtk2html or gtk2html2 ?12:09
cyberwarriorompaul: everything goes ok but after sometime the screen goes blank12:10
ompaulcyberwarrior, okay did you just hit enter at the start of the install and it failed?12:10
opogtkhtml2 aparently12:10
cyberwarriorno, read above12:10
Pepspybe: nothing there that is not on the man page. Is there another option for a server that will let me debug?12:10
ompaulcyberwarrior, let me rephrase that, you go through several motions and it fails or is it at the reboot?12:10
cyberwarriorit doesn't fail12:11
cyberwarriori just get a blank screen12:11
cyberwarriorand it doesn't change12:11
Krilleuh, i got one last question before i fall asleep, its quite easy to answer i believe12:11
ompaulthat is a failure when does it happen?12:11
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cyberwarriori see the orange/blank screen12:11
Krilleif i do a reinstall from CD, and i have quite a lot of media on the HD today ... can i do that without formatting, and saving the media ?12:11
cyberwarriorthen it loads some thing with   [ok] 12:11
cyberwarriorlike that12:11
pybePeps: never used it and from the response from the room no one else has either12:11
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Krillei dont care about any installed software or so, i dont have anything important ... but i dont wanna format the drive12:12
cyberwarriorand then i get a blank screen with an underscore12:12
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ompaulcyberwarrior, okay one last time, does it do this 'failure' at a reboot after an install or is it during the first install?12:12
Pepspybe: which is the recommended dhcp server for ubuntu?12:12
cyberwarriorafter install12:12
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cyberwarriorwhen it loads everything12:12
sorush20cp is for copy mkdir make direcroty what about deleting a file what is the command for that..12:12
oporm12:12
sm-milesorush20, if you want to delete all files in directory use *12:13
cyberwarriorompaul: do you need to reboot after an install in a liveCD?12:13
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ompaulcyberwarrior, your using a liveCD12:13
ompaulahh12:13
cyberwarrioryeah12:13
chromateare there any visualizers available for amarok?12:13
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ompaulcyberwarrior, well it is not an install if your using a live CD12:13
sm-milesorush20, and if you want to remove all files either in subfolders use flag -r (recursevly)12:13
cyberwarrior:O12:14
cyberwarriorsorry about that12:14
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sorush20how to remoe12:14
sm-mileor use manual12:14
swab79sorush20: take a look at this http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/index.html12:14
pybePeps: probably dhcpd12:14
sm-mileman rm12:14
sm-miletype man rm12:14
Krillegoodnight12:14
Krilleand thanks for the help!12:14
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shadeofgreyhow do i add the marliatt repos. in my sources.list file?12:15
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cyberwarriorompaul: do you know about liveCD12:15
ompaulcyberwarrior, do you get to choose a video card type when booting?12:15
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cyberwarriorompaul: no12:15
topylishadeofgrey: the question is: why would i add christian's repos in my sources.list12:15
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sm-mileshadeofgrey, emacs sources.list12:16
ompaulcyberwarrior, I use them now and again - so I can't remember what it does :-/12:16
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cyberwarriorompaul: lol12:16
sm-mile:_12:16
ompaulcyberwarrior, which type of ubuntu are you using?12:16
cyberwarriorubuntu.com/download/intel/x86/12:16
opomalkly? did ya die? I'm getting worried12:16
shadeofgreyno - i know how to edit the file...  i cut and pasted the following line into my sources.list file and got a dist-parse error12:16
cyberwarriorompaul: liveCD, i downloaded it from ubuntu.com12:17
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topylishadeofgrey: what exactly do you want from his repository?12:17
shadeofgrey deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main12:17
nfinitep1astikshadeofgrey: did you update?12:17
sm-mileshadeofgrey, could be that ya12:17
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shadeofgreyim interested in adding the win32codecs to my installatiuon...  i need to be able to view windows media streams for a class im taking -- i need windows media support, and quicktime12:18
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Seveasshadeofgrey, don't use nerim12:18
Seveasw32codecs are in hoary-extras too12:18
Seveasor even better: get them at the mplayer site12:18
shadeofgreyim running breezy tho12:19
ompaulcyberwarrior, would you care to give me the full url ( I suspect you got to hoary but am not sure) what kind of video card have you got there?12:19
sm-mileemulate windows and run on windows :)12:19
ompaulcyberwarrior, how big is your video card?12:19
cyberwarriorompaul: i use ATI radeon mad dog 128 mb12:19
Daemonicdoes ubuntu use the regular /etc/exports file for nfs shares? I ask because it doesn't exist in /etc/ and was wondering if it is located somewhere else or if I need to create it.12:19
topylishadeofgrey: again, i'd only encourage you to get something like w32codecs and such stuff from him. disable the repository after that, there may be bad dependency conflicts later otherwise. stick to ubuntu packages whenever you can12:19
shadeofgreyokay...  guys i dont care how i get it done - i just serarched the ubuntu forums and the best match for what i searched for was a forum post specifying that it was only possiible to get winsows medsia player and quicktime support thru marliatt or whatever.12:20
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shadeofgreyso12:20
topyliDaemonic: there is no file because you have no shares yet :)12:20
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seliniumwhat is the easiest way to search my system for where I put a .sf2 file?12:20
Daemonictopyli: hmm.. I thought that is where I defined them.12:20
Daemonictopyli: at least it was like that in slackware.12:21
shadeofgreyall i need to know is how do i enable windows media player support and quicktimer support and .asf support to my breezy installation?12:21
topyliDaemonic: yes12:21
Daemonictopyli: ok, so I need to create the file.12:21
topyliDaemonic: yes12:21
Daemonictopyli: I just assumed there would be a template there12:21
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ubuntu_snap12:21
cyberwarriorompaul: my video card is compatible?12:21
seliniumHi Seveas12:21
ds[de] selinium: Places(or whatever it is called in english) -> search for files -> name contains *.sf212:22
opoI have installed a program (solfege) through apt and have been getting an error "ImportError: No Module named gtkhtml2" when I run it, I have tried install libgtkhtml2-0 package with no luck. Anyone mind helping me out?12:22
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topylishadeofgrey: you can either download w32codecs from there, or enable the repository temporarily (there may be other cool things you might want as well :) ) but don't leave it enabled forever12:22
ompaulcyberwarrior, I want you to try something, reboot the machine and tell it you want to run a 'server' do this by following the instruction to type server at the first screen, after if it insists on you choosing something make it a mail server - see if it finishes booting - let me know how you get on with that12:22
Seveashi selinium12:22
swab79shadeofgrey: isnt mplayer in universe?  should come with all codecs12:22
sm-mileshadeofgrey, cant you play all that types of file in mediaplayer ? .. well i dont know cuzz i dont watch movies12:22
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seliniumds[de] , Got it! Cheers12:22
swab79i cant remember where i got mplayer from12:23
nfinitep1astikshadeofgrey: why not vlc?12:23
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seliniumAny one know how to speed up ripping in soundjuicer? I am only getting 1.8x and it is taking forever!12:23
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cyberwarriorompaul: ok, i am using the breezy badger thing12:23
sm-mileshadeofgrey, do you have mediaplayer ?12:23
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sm-mileshadeofgrey, mplayer ?12:23
cyberwarriorompaul: i will need to sign off cuz i have only 1 comp.12:24
shadeofgreyi think so12:24
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Seveasselinium, dma?12:24
ompaulswab79, cyberwarrior np12:24
sm-milehttp://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html12:24
shadeofgreyno12:24
shadeofgreyi have totem12:24
sm-milethat suck12:24
seliniumSeveas: I am pretty sure i did that, how do i check?>12:24
shadeofgreywould installing totem-xine do the trick?12:24
cyberwarriorompaul: breezy badger is better or the hoary ?12:24
sm-mileall you have to do12:24
ompaulswab79, apt-cache policy mplayer-38612:24
Seveashdparm -d /dev/drive12:24
sm-mileis to compile mplayer on your sistem12:24
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Seveascyberwarrior, hoary is more stable, breezy is more recent (but not yet released)12:25
cyberwarriordamn12:25
cyberwarriori downloaded the wrong one12:25
ompaulcyberwarrior, for your purposes I doubt it - I think you may be pushing the reqirements a tad with the ram12:25
topylism-mile: i don't understand the mplayer buzz. i'm happy with totem-xine12:25
Seveasnonsense sm-mile no one needs to compile mplayer -- it's in the repositories...12:25
Seveastopyli, mplayers filters are cool :)12:25
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swab79breezy multiverse...12:25
ompaulcyberwarrior, if you had double that ram ~I would not be thinking this but it might just be a tad tight for live CD12:25
sm-miletopyli, i am happy with mplayer :) never tried totem12:26
topyliSeveas: of course sometimes you want mencoder too12:26
cyberwarriorompaul:  ok ... do you use hoary version?12:26
nfinitep1astiki think totem rather sucks compared to mplayer or vlc12:26
ompaulcyberwarrior, no, but then again no computer here is using live12:26
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topylism-mile: i'm sure mplayer works, i've tested it myself. :) i just prefer something more gnome'y12:27
ompaulcyberwarrior, I have used hoary and breezy live12:27
ompauland I will use dapper when it is available12:27
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sameatWhat's Dapper?12:27
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seliniumSeveas, it is enabled, what about using hdparm -E32  ?12:27
Lunar_Lampok - i don't get it - i was setting up wireless card using RaConfig - not having much success - then it crashed on me and i had to restart the computer.  Now ehen i try to open RaConfig it says "device not found"12:27
ompaulsameat, it will be after breezy, at this time a name, in the future it will be software12:28
topyli!start a mediaplayer war12:28
ubotutopyli: Did you get hit by a windmill?12:28
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ompaul!lart topyli12:28
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sm-miletopyli, gnomer12:28
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Lethal-Rocks!lart himself12:28
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Lethal-Rocksdamn12:28
topylihow do you teach ubotu to start new wars? =)12:28
Lethal-Rocks!lart himself12:29
khermansAnyone get ndiswrapper working in Breezy?12:29
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Seveasselinium, ask a driveguru, I still need to read the hdparm manpage :D12:29
Seveasdon't play with the bot...12:29
ompaultopyli, first civilian casualty in the media player war of '0512:29
topylialso, ubotu's lart function needs a BFG-9000 option12:29
Lethal-Rockslol12:29
Lethal-RocksYeah12:30
Lethal-Rocks!lart himself12:30
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oscarhhi! is anyone having trouble getting beagle to run?12:30
oscarhin breezy12:30
oscarh?12:30
Lethal-RocksYes12:30
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khermansndiswrapper wont compile for me12:30
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MarcNoscarh: I've not had a problem.12:30
Lethal-RocksOnly I'm having trouble nin hoary12:30
seliniumSeveas, not too many of them about, i have been trying all day! (23:00 now)   :)12:30
oscarhMarcN, it might be me then12:30
Lunar_Lampok - i don't get it - i was setting up wireless card using RaConfig2400 - not having much success - then it crashed on me and i had to restart the computer.  Now when i try to open RaConfig2400 it says "device driver not found"12:30
oscarhMarcN, mono does not find gtk2 dlls12:30
MarcNoscarh: I used someone's backport repository to first try beagle on hoary and just this morning upgraded to 'breezy'.12:30
Lethal-RocksLunar_Lamp, is it USB?12:31
Lunar_LampLethal-Rocks, no12:31
mkyb14is there a webalizer for debian???????12:31
MarcNoscarh: works on breezy too.  Try running beagled --fg --debug to see what you get.12:31
oscarhMarcN, or, really, glib12:31
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Lethal-RocksLunar_Lamp, are you sure it's 400 and not 500?12:31
Lunar_LampLethal-Rocks, yes - heh12:31
MarcNoscarh: what about glibc?12:31
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oscarhMarcN, glibc?12:31
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Seveasglib isn't glibc....12:32
Lethal-RocksLunar_Lamp, the rt drivers are unstable I have a rt2570-based adapter and it sometimes crashes as soon as I enable it12:32
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oscarhMarcN, it cannot find glib-2.012:32
Lunar_Lamp:-(12:32
khermanscant build ndiswrapper -- get this --> make[2] : dh_testdir: Command not found12:32
mkyb14is there a webalizer for debian???????12:32
oscarhMarcN, mono bindings12:32
ompaulmkyb14, well if you do this >> apt-cache search webalizer << (and ask only once)12:32
mkyb14ok12:32
cyberwarriorompaul: what does the preview breezy badger include?12:33
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Seveascyberwarrior, extreme coolness :D12:33
Lunar_Lampwell - i guess i'll soldier on with wired for the moment Lethal-Rocks  - i'm moving house for a year tommorrow - so i will set it up so i can get wired hopefully12:33
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cyberwarriorseveas: like what..12:33
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cafuego_cyberwarrior: Everything Hoary includes as well.12:33
ompaulcyberwarrior, read the wiki - and you will find all sorts of stuff12:33
mkyb14ok it found it but won't install it12:33
mkyb14?12:33
MarcNoscarh: which glib package is giving you problems?12:33
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cyberwarriorok12:33
ompaul!tell cyberwarrior about breezy12:33
Lethal-RocksLunar_Lamp, That's what I have to do, except I don't have a NIC, i use the ADSL modem :(12:33
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duffman25Hi, I get a strange error message with an gnome icon set I was using that it's not working now. I get an  Failed to load image...  Details: unrecognized file format. on startup. This worked perfectly before. Any ideas?12:33
Seveascyberwarrior, gnome 2.12 for instance12:33
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Seveasand a modular X, gcc4, gcj, java, usplash...12:34
venzenmkyb14: what error reports?12:34
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bz0bhey all12:34
cyberwarriorlike it's a copy of hoary12:34
cyberwarriorand other stuff as well12:34
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bz0bhave anyone of you noticed that the developers are coming out with like 100MB+ of updates a day?12:34
ompaulcyberwarrior, read the stuff ubotu told you on my behalf12:34
mkyb14mkyb14@ubuntu:~$ apt-cache search webalizer12:34
cyberwarriorremember i am talking baout breezy badger preview*12:34
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mkyb14libroxen-kiwilogger - Cern HTTPd compatible logging module module for the Roxen Challenger web server12:34
mkyb14modlogan - A modular logfile analyzer12:34
Mellar_I'm trying to install gcc on Ubuntu, but it asks for the CD-rom. I've deleted the CD-rom line from sourceslist, and I'm trying to add it again with the apt-setup command, but apt-setup won't recognice the CD as an Ubuntu CD 00:24:17 < Mellar_> are there any ways to make it recognize the CD as an Ubuntu CD, or an easy way to install gcc and avoid this problem?12:34
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mkyb14webalizer - Web server log analysis program12:34
mkyb14webmin-webalizer - webalizer control module for webmin12:34
oscarhMarcN, the problem is beagled reporting System.DllNotFoundException: glib-2.012:34
mkyb14awstats - powerful and featureful web server log analyzer12:34
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SeveasFOOL12:34
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cyberwarriorompaul: i am opening the URL.. dial up:(:(:(12:35
SeveasNEVER paste in here12:35
duffman25Hi, I get a strange error message with an gnome icon set I was using that it's not working now. I get an  Failed to load image...  Details: unrecognized file format. on startup. This worked perfectly before. Any ideas?12:35
cafuego_cyberwarrior: Yes, it includes everything you need to run a desktop machine and be productive. Just has higher version numbers.12:35
bz0bhahahahahahha12:35
oscarhMarcN, i guess it's just a matter of finding the package, but which?12:35
ompaulbz0b, that is what can happen with a development software12:35
BlueEaglemellar_: Did you apt-get update after removing the cd from your sources?12:35
bz0bompaul, i see, cause i am on breezy and it seems like i am constantly upgrading] 12:35
ompaulbz0b, that is what can happen with a development platform of software - all bets are off until the release and then they are just side bets12:35
jackasswhat will be better windows vista or ubuntu dupper drake12:35
Lethal-RocksUbuntu, duh12:35
Mellar_BlueEagle: yes, I did that12:35
Seveasjackass, what do you expect as answer when you ask in here?12:36
BlueEaglemellar_: Well, then it should not be asking for the cd. :/12:36
ompauljackass, you have that name, why?12:36
Seveasand Dapper Drake will toast Vista12:36
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ompaulwarty will toast vista12:36
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apokryphosSeveas: all 7 versions of it!12:36
topyliok, it's late. i'm going to bed. there, i will go to sleep. in sleep, i will dream of la-la-land, where everybody agrees with me. that's nice, much better than #ubuntu, where nasty people disagree with me =)12:36
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Seveasapokryphos, the 7-headed Dapper Drake will have no problem with 7 buggy unsafe Vistas :)12:36
venzenhello boogie12:37
bz0bjackass, windows vista is crap, if you want to know the truth, longhorn(vista), was supposed to be released when a computers bare minimum had 2gb ram, and like 4.5ghz processors12:37
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apokryphosSeveas: I wonder if Dapper will be drawn as a pilot; had an odd image of him as that.12:37
duffman25I've tried to recreate the icon cache but didn't worked12:37
BlueEagleI read that the breezy install cd might be a live-cd with installation features. Is there any truth to that in the preview .iso?12:37
boogiethe problem with most linux distributions is that ext3 is default, it's really not fast enough, i wish reiser 4 was ready12:37
duffman25I'm out of ideas12:37
oscarhMarcN, any idea?12:37
duffman25:(12:37
venzenmany apps don't support reiser4 - eg beagle12:38
bz0bhow is ext3 slow?12:38
ompaulapokryphos, tell the art team about it :)12:38
topyliext3 is not slow12:38
nfinitep1astikbzob: it's inefficient in handling small files sizes12:38
Seveasbz0b, it's conservative, not slow12:38
boogiebz0b - have you seen any comparison reviews of the filesystems?12:38
naliothbz0b: you as a human wont notice much difference12:38
venzenMellar: try dselect to ad CD12:38
MarcNoscarh: I was helping kids with homework.  I'm back.12:38
bz0bnalioth, I see, well who says I am human?12:38
oscarhMarcN, oh, sorry12:38
boogieext3 is reliable, but not good enough for big files12:38
bz0bnalioth, i am a bot with the mind of 100 humans12:39
venzenoscarh: good parent :)12:39
MarcNoscarh: try apt-get install libglib2.012:39
topylinfinitep1astik: you read that somewhere12:39
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apokryphosompaul: I might  just have to. :)12:39
naliothbz0b: if you are not, be mindful of your place12:39
Zaacchello I was wondering, can Ubuntu be installed onto a Pentuim-MMX 233 Mhz ? :)12:39
opo(yes)12:39
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bz0bnalioth, jk, hehe :P12:39
Seveasbz0b, bots are not allowed here, beware :p12:39
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cyberwarriorompaul: you'r right... it's still under process...12:39
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ProdegyXHello everyone.12:39
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SeveasZaacc, yes it can12:39
ProdegyXI need help please.12:39
Seveasbut you will want to install a lighter desktop than gnome12:39
topylinfinitep1astik: you need to work in the real world and see if you trust beta stuff12:39
venzenmkyb14: why won't install?12:39
ompaul!tell ProdegyX about ask12:40
duffman25i need help please12:40
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Seveas!tell duffman25 about ask12:40
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bz0bProdegyX, please dont ask for help just ask your question12:40
nfinitep1astiktopyli: no need to beta test, just use what's reliable12:40
bz0bduffman25, , please dont ask for help just ask your question12:40
ProdegyXOk I am trying to play mp3's on Linux what do I do.12:40
MarcNZaacc: I have ubuntu running in a Pentium 300Mhz with ~256M (doesn't do much more than read email, blog webserver, etc)12:40
topylinfinitep1astik: right12:40
Seveas!mp312:40
ubotuit has been said that mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support12:40
duffman25I get a strange error message with an gnome icon set I was using that it's not working now. I get an  Failed to load image...  Details: unrecognized file format. on startup. This worked perfectly before. Any ideas?12:40
Seveas^-- ProdegyX12:40
oscarhMarcN, libglib2.0-0 is already installed12:40
Seveasduffman25, recently switched to breezy?12:40
duffman25no12:41
bz0bduffman25, reformatt :-), jk, not sure12:41
duffman25I was using breezy12:41
ompaulduffman25, this may not be the result you want but >> killall nautilus << it will kill your session but could be good for you12:41
boogieis breezy stable enough now?12:41
ZaaccSeveas, I get the Debootstrap error and I've been told that my hardware is too old, I've tried everything that the forums has told me to try, I can't think of anything more to try :(12:41
duffman25already tried it12:41
bz0bboogie, yes, i am using it, and i am noob, imo12:41
Seveasduffman25, in breezy there is an icon-related bug, search the ubuntu-devel list for more info12:41
ZaaccI get the error at about 6% of installation12:41
duffman25it's the gnome-panel that doesn't load12:41
cyberwarriorhave anybody tried preview breezy badger yet??12:41
boogieok, i may try the preview12:41
SeveasZaacc, a bit more info might help (like the complete error)12:41
naliothcyberwarrior: yes lots of folks12:42
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cyberwarriorwhere did you download it from?12:42
naliothZaacc: but not in there, paste it please12:42
ompaulboogie, I am using it, my wife is using it, and lots of others are, your call, it is development, that means in the morning it could all break badly, such is life12:42
venzencyberwarrior: ubnuy downloads12:42
opoI hate to be repetative, but I have installed a program (solfege) through apt and have been getting an error "ImportError: No Module named gtkhtml2" when I run it, I have tried install libgtkhtml2-0 package with no luck. Anyone mind helping me out?12:42
ompaulcyberwarrior, cdimage.ubuntu.com12:43
ChrisGAIM was working perfectly until my PC froze...then I had to shut the computer down and boot back up, now GAIM won't flash when people IM me12:43
Seveascyberwarrior, you can simply upgrade to it12:43
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venzenimean ubuntu downloads12:43
MarcNoscarh: http://nozell.com/tmp/glib.txt12:43
bz0b!hackers12:43
ubotubz0b: I don't know, could you explain it?12:43
MarcNoscarh: what I have installed12:43
cyberwarriorupgrade to what>12:43
bz0b!gypsies12:43
ubotubz0b: I don't know12:43
cyberwarrior?12:43
bz0bdamn ubotu you are stupid!12:43
boogieompaul what's your take on it, is it a big step forward from hoary?12:43
ompaulSeveas, cyberwarrior is using live CD and it is not starting for him, suggested he try server boot to check it - no idea if that worked for him - pIII 128 megs ram iirc12:43
Seveasopo, python2.4-gnome-extras12:43
QuinthiusChris: go into gaim prefs, make sure the system notification plugin is enabled, and set it to set URGENT on notifies12:44
Seveasopo, python2.4-gnome2-extras12:44
opoSeveas ( thanks )12:44
ChrisQuinthius: It is.12:44
ompaulboogie, it works, its smoother, I don't notice too much but the visible changes are nice12:44
ChrisIt was even when I booted back up12:44
Chrisit's just ignoring it12:44
topylinfinitep1astik: alan and linus did not even want to support reiserfs. it went in because suse produced numbers such as "on our clients the failure rate has been this low"12:44
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cyberwarriorslax is better or ubuntu?12:45
boogieis reiser4 even supported properly in the kerynel yet?12:45
cyberwarriormy fav. is slax12:45
venzenubuntu12:45
Burgundaviaboogie, no12:45
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nfinitep1astikgentoo12:45
ompaulwhen reiser fries it fries well12:45
khermansI can't get the wifi device light to come on when i modprobe ndiswrapper12:45
cyberwarriorvenzen: i can't rate it now. cuz mine doesn't work12:45
oscarhMarcN, libglib-cil seem to have done it12:45
bz0bboogie, slax is good! for live distro!12:45
cyberwarrioryeah12:45
bz0bvery small12:45
topyli!start a file system war12:45
ubotutopyli: Are you on ritalin?12:45
oscarhMarcN, I guess cli is for command line interfac??!?12:45
boogiehmm slax, i'll look at the website12:45
ompaulnfinitep1astik, #gentoo is three doors down on the left when you leave this chat room12:45
cyberwarriorslax.com12:46
bz0b!start a prostitution sail in this war12:46
ubotubz0b: Are you on ritalin?12:46
MarcNoscarh: I suppose.12:46
boogielooks nice, maybe because i love kde12:46
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cyberwarrioryeah12:46
bz0bboogie, do you use kubuntu then?12:46
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Seveasbz0b, topyli, don't play with the bot!12:46
oscarhMarcN, thanks anyway, now it seems to be running12:46
bz0bubotu, yes, i am on ritalin12:46
ubotubz0b: I don't know, could you explain it?12:46
duffman25Seveas: I can't find anything related to a bug with icon, I'm searching the forum's develpment thread12:46
bz0bsorry Seveas12:47
boogieno i hate kubuntu, too many bugs, they slapped it on without testing it properly i feel, i'm prefer mepis12:47
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cyberwarriorBRB12:47
Seveasduffman25, mailinglists aren't forums...12:47
topyliSeveas: i just think it's time to teach it some new flamewars to start :)12:47
Seveastopyli, i think it's time to stop messing with it...12:47
cafuego_!start a seveas war12:47
ubotuSeveas is an evil, grumpy old man!12:47
bz0bboogie, yes, mepis was nice, since it was small, i use to run a 40 box ltsp server running all clients with mepis, and server with gentoo12:47
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boogiewow that's cool12:48
Seveas /kick cafuego12:48
bz0bSeveas, the bot hates you!12:48
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Seveas:p12:48
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topyliheh12:48
duffman25Seveas: I can't find a search facility in http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/, do I have to look in each thread?12:48
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=== ompaul watchs Seveas run bzip2 on cafuego_ and then move him to a tape and eject the tape :)
oscarhMarcN, btw, i guess u are running breezy12:49
cafuego_ompaul: oi!12:49
bz0bcafuego, yummy!12:49
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boogieanyone tried mercury? is there any decent program for linux or mac for getting video chat with yahoo or msn?12:49
MarcNoscarh: yeah.  Just upgraded my laptop.  Had a desktop running breezy for a week or so.12:49
bz0bboogie, its called gaim!12:49
oscarhMarcN, kernel 2.6.12?12:50
bz0bboogie, woops, nevermind, i am slow12:50
ompaulcafuego_, tar -jxvf oi! = what happened there :)12:50
boogiegaim has no video chat capabilities12:50
MarcNoscarh: yeah.12:50
oscarhMarcN, is hibernate working for you?12:50
boogiegaim-vv sucks12:50
naliothwhats the command for listing your hardware? *hw   <<somthing?12:50
bz0bboogie, its all about using a an .exe with wine!12:50
bz0b:p12:50
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MarcNoscarh: It was under hoary after following some steps in the wiki.  Highly depends on your hw12:50
boogielol, i would code it myself if i had time but i'm doing a masters so i don't :(12:51
oscarhMarcN, I'm using the 696 build and am getting some verison mismatch on restore from hibernate12:51
MarcNoscarh: I have an hp/compaq nc6000 laptop.12:51
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oscarhMarcN, hibernate worked in hoary12:51
oscarhMarcN, so I hope it will later12:51
bz0bWell I have a Presario 2100, so beat that!12:51
oscarhMarcN, on an IBM T-41 though12:51
bz0b:-)12:51
windexi have a fujitsu st5010 tablet pc!12:51
MarcNoscarh: not tried it yet under breezy.12:51
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oscarhMarcN, ok...12:51
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windexbut its running windows cos ubuntu has no on screen keyboard.12:51
windex:)12:51
MarcNbz0b: I've seen more compaq gear than you ever will ;-)12:51
Pepspybe: thanks. dhcp3 is working ....12:52
cafuego_windex: Yes, it does.12:52
bz0bMarcN, oh yeah? i doubt that, my whole 40 box ltsp server was running crap compaq donations, thank you very much12:52
cafuego_windex: You need to install 'gok'.12:52
boogiewhat is the best kde distro out there, and i don't mean a bloated one like suse, mepis no?12:52
bz0bMarcN, I went through about 250 compaq boxes, until i could get 40 good ones12:52
MarcNbz0b: I work there. :-(p)   (sticking out tounge)12:52
bz0bMarcN, Damnit! so can you get me a deal on a new notebook :-)12:53
duffman25there's too many people in here....12:53
cafuego_boogie: You're asking the wrong question in the wrong channel.12:53
Seveasboogie, kubuntu :)12:53
MarcNbz0b: nope.12:53
prolsd!seen ompaul12:53
ubotuompaul is currently on #ubuntu (7h 8m 57s)12:53
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windexcafuego, oh.12:53
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bz0b!seen bz0b12:53
ubotubz0b is currently on #ubuntu (19m 32s)12:53
duffman25what other ubuntu support channels exist?12:53
boogieSeveas wrong answer12:53
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windexcafuego, meh. :)12:53
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HrdwrBoBduffman25: this is pretty much it12:54
bz0bboogie, ubuntu with apt-get install kubuntu-desktop12:54
cafuego_windex: It also supports a magnifier and screenreader.12:54
cafuego_windex: Well, mine claims to anyway, in the Assitive Technologies preference.12:54
Seveasboogie, why?12:54
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Seveaskubuntu is KDE based and afaik quite good and small12:54
boogiebecause kubuntu control panel even is half broken12:54
Seveasah12:54
bz0banyone here read digg?12:54
windexcafuego, well then. ill whip out my tablet. ubuntu's installer will resize ntfs i hear?12:54
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cafuego_boogie: Did you file a bug report on that>12:55
=== Seveas refuses to use kde so i don't know much about it :)
bz0bKevin Rose is a media whore!12:55
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cafuego_windex: Any installer can resize NTFS to 0 ;-)12:55
boogieeveryone did, it's a known bug12:55
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Seveascafuego_, :D12:55
apokryphosSeveas: try it, you'll love it -- or your money back. :D12:55
windexcafuego, pfft. i need to keep tablet pc edition installed.12:55
windexcafuego, is there a ubuntu app for handwriting notes like windows journal?12:55
Seveasapokryphos, I tried and hated it :) (let's not get into a desktop war...)12:55
apokryphos=)12:55
cafuego_windex: it'll *probably* be fine, but then again, I've been known to be a compulsive liar.12:56
apokryphosboogie: kubuntu is a great KDE-based distro, though. It keeps quite close to kde settings, and we're the fastest gettings debs out :)12:56
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apokryphosboogie: what other distro do you know building 3.5 beta debs so that they're available? :)12:56
windexcafuego, i have a fat16 partition at the end of my disk with a recovery partition on it. so at the very least, as long as it dosen't hose that partition, i'll be fine12:56
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luckyabais there a way to get a static ip with dsl?12:57
cafuego_windex: Windows journal? Never heard of it.12:57
Seveasluckyaba, ask your provider...12:57
boogiei'll try out the next version of kubuntu, maybe it'll be stable enough for me12:57
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MarcNbz0b: http://www.flickr.com/photos/marcn/248217/    <== my windows free office12:57
apokryphosboogie: you had problems with the current one?12:57
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windexcafuego, it lets me hand write notes and it will transcribe them into text12:57
Seveasboogie, kubuntu breezy is pretty stable, you can try now :)12:57
windexcafuego, i use it all the time.12:57
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cafuego_windex: if it does, it'll be because you told it to; parted doesn't access bits you didn't tell it to access ;-)12:57
venzenluckyaba: static ip depends on provider and sometimes wallet12:57
cafuego_windex: Oh, like my newton 1.0 did in '93 ;-)12:58
apokryphossome still complain of X problems every now and again, it seems. Hopefully all that will be done and dusted for official.12:58
naliothunlike cafuego_12:58
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windexcafuego, basically.12:58
boogieapokryphos - yes the hoary kubuntu had a few serious bugs i just couldn't take, i'll try out the preview live cd of it12:58
cafuego_nalioth: wtf have I done *NOW* ?12:58
windexcafuego, but i dont know of a linux app to do it.12:58
apokryphosboogie: like which ones?12:58
HrdwrBoBboogie: the main bug is that it runs KDE ;)12:58
windexcafuego, .. like your newton 1.0 did in '93.12:58
duffman25bye12:58
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apokryphos!start a desktop war12:58
ubotufluxbox is much better than kde!12:58
Seveasso true :p12:58
naliothcafuego_: just kickin the tape cartridge across the floor, buddy12:59
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cafuego_windex: I expect Linux developers don't have the budget to obtain hundreds of handwriting styles & train teh software12:59
apokryphosboogie: main known bugs were: admin mode in kcontrol, kaffeine, apparent konqueror crashes for some (never experienced).12:59
woodwizzlehow do I install a font?12:59
boogiefluxbox is maybe better if you have a 386 computer from 198812:59
woodwizzledragging one to fonts:/// doesn't seem to do it12:59
cafuego_woodwizzle: copy it to ~/.fonts; run 'xset fp rehash'12:59
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HaroldJohnsonHello all, good day01:00
apokryphosboogie: you can join us in #kubuntu also, if you like.01:00
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boogiecool ok01:00
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windexcafuego, exactally!01:00
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Seveaswtf01:00
Seveasstupid dutch xchat :S01:00
luckyabalmao01:00
luckyabawhoa01:00
windexdutch?01:00
apokryphosclearing out time :/01:00
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windexinsulting the dutch!01:00
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windex:)01:00
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HaroldJohnsonAnyone: I just ran and apt-get dist-upgrade, and Mozilla's no longer working.  Anyone have this problem before?01:00
Seveaswindex, i'm dutch myself :)01:00
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HaroldJohnsonI'm on a Mac, by the way.01:01
cafuego_at least the dutch know how and when to build dykes :-P01:01
HaroldJohnsonHi Seveas01:01
opoI like gaim for irc, am I a minority?01:01
naliothHaroldJohnson: back to cause more trouble?01:01
apokryphosopo: yes01:01
factotumyes01:01
IceDragonyes01:01
factotumirssi myself01:01
HaroldJohnsonnalioth, Hi nalioth, how're you?01:01
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naliothHaroldJohnson: breezy is broken until oct 13. live with your decision01:01
HaroldJohnsonnalioth, :)01:01
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naliothHaroldJohnson: the next update or two should fix your problem01:02
HaroldJohnsonnalioth, Wait - does that mean I've upgrade to Breezy?01:02
naliothHaroldJohnson: i'm fine today. and you?01:02
HaroldJohnsonnalioth, Fine.01:02
HaroldJohnsonnalioth, Thanks for asking01:02
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HaroldJohnsonnalioth, What's a way to reveal that I'm using Breezy?01:02
venzenHArold what are you running ? horay?01:02
crimsunHaroldJohnson: lsb_release -a01:02
HaroldJohnsonvenzen, I thought I was01:02
naliothHaroldJohnson: open a terminal, and type uname -a01:02
HaroldJohnsoncrimsun, Thank you01:02
IceDragonI tried to upgrade my rpm packages01:03
venzenHarold: wait a day or 201:03
Seveasmore flooding coming up, bear with me...01:03
IceDragonbut it keeps giving me an error01:03
HaroldJohnsonnalioth, Yes, but that simply tells me the kernel01:03
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billytwowillyhi guys, installfest tommorrow and our extreme tech guy bailed. Is there a netinst iso for ubuntu and if so, where do I get it?01:04
nfinitep1astiko.o;;01:04
windexSeveas, FLOODER! go to #flood. :>01:04
bimberiheh, wayne is still unpopular :)01:04
naliothSeveas: no flooding! use #flood or a pastebin please01:04
venzenwww.ubuntulinux.com downloads01:04
Seveaswindex, wouldn't help, bans still go in here :)01:04
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boogieanyone tried out openoffice beta 2?? this version loads in 3 seconds, so much faster than beta 101:04
crimsunbillytwowilly: no, but you can netboot (pxe) the installer and install over the net.01:04
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raven3x7anyone know wether translations are finished in the breezy preview?01:05
Seveasok, bans restored, I'll go sit in the corner01:05
apokryphoswatch out, Seveas has lost it and is banning everyone!01:05
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venzenboogie: oo2 works fine01:05
HaroldJohnsonnalioth, Once you perform an apt-get dist-upgrade, do you need to inform BootX or Yaboot that you've changed the kernel?01:05
apokryphos=)01:05
venzenno01:05
boogieyeah, it's looking good for the final release (whenever that is)01:05
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Burgundaviaraven3x7, you can check here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+translations01:05
billytwowillycrimsun, We have a central file server. We need to boot from cd then install over the intranet.. not all machines will have pxe..01:05
naliothHaroldJohnson: on yaboot, you'll want to run "sudo ybin" to set the new settings into nvram01:06
naliothHaroldJohnson: i'm not sure on bootx (probably have to move the initrc and all that happy stuff back to the boot block)01:06
lonewolffHaroldJohnson: if you do it with apt then you dont have to do anything, its done automatically01:06
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IceDragonSynaptic is giving me package errors01:06
naliothlonewolff: not so, yaboot doesnt work like grub/lilo01:06
IceDragonanyway to fix this01:06
raven3x7Burgundavia, i was asking because the greek menus are badly messed up. not the translation itself but the fonts01:06
HaroldJohnsonlonewolff, On the Mac, really?  Even Old World Macs?01:06
HaroldJohnsonnalioth, Thanks01:06
mkyb14anyone know where the apache2.log file is????? i can't find it by 'whereis apache2.log'  says its in some dir's but it's not there01:06
bz0byo01:07
lonewolffnalioth: im using yaboot here, and i just did dist-upgrade01:07
bz0bthanks01:07
lonewolffand guess what, it did it automatically for me01:07
bz0bSeveas, sorry again01:07
venzenHarold: yep - iMac233 hree01:07
HaroldJohnsonlonewolff, That's fantastic.01:07
naliothlonewolff: every time i upgrade my yaboot on breezy it tells me to run 'ybin'01:07
bz0banyways, I <3 macs, i want to get a powerbook, but dont have enough money01:07
cafuego_venzen: those are nice little ubuntu terminals, provided they have 512MB ram01:07
bz0bnalioth, you are on an iBook?01:07
IceDragono_001:07
crimsunbillytwowilly: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso01:07
IceDragonanyone01:07
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IceDragonThis is really sucking01:07
naliothlonewolff: when you get a daily update and reboot to a blinkin ?, you'll see01:07
Burgundaviaraven3x7, hmm, file a bug01:07
bimberimkyb14: in /var/log/apache2 usually01:07
HaroldJohnsonvenzen, The iMac233 is considered New World, right?01:07
naliothbz0b: yes i am01:08
mkyb14ok thanks01:08
bz0bnalioth, how much ram01:08
venzencafuego - yep ram ram ram - else snailpace!01:08
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lonewolffnalioth: well its never ask me, and i updated my system earleir today, altho i am new to linx on ppc01:08
cafuego_nalioth: Oh, we upped the mac mini to 1GB; suddenly it's useable!01:08
venzenexactly01:08
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raven3x7yeah that was my intention and why i asked. i need to know if this is known.01:09
IceDragonoh, repository index update errors01:09
IceDragonfix?01:09
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naliothcafuego_: yes they are rather capapble with ram in them01:09
HaroldJohnsonAnyone: Why does Firefox always report no cookies when I'm trying to use a service like Blogger?01:09
mik3Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting. <---I get this when i try to run nvu, i've looked at nvu's site and googled but got nothing01:09
IceDragon...01:10
Seveas!nvu01:10
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uboturumour has it, nvu is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.01:10
IceDragon!rpm01:10
ubotuIceDragon: Not a clue01:10
mik3don't get smart Seveas !01:10
IceDragon!help01:10
naliothmik3: do you have mozilla suite installed/01:10
mik3nalioth I think i just installed it01:10
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Marrukis ubuntu a good linux distro to start off with?01:11
factotum!bratwurst01:11
ubotufactotum: Do they come in packets of five?01:11
venzenHarold: something is wrong with your mozilla install...01:11
IceDragonman01:11
mik3Marruk : yes01:11
factotumhaha01:11
HaroldJohnsonMarruk, Absolutely01:11
venzenits all about ubuntu01:11
marcin_anthi all01:11
venzenhi01:11
HaroldJohnsonvenzen, No doubt - or perhaps it's my dead PRAM battery/01:11
mik3Marruk : it's probably the most solid, and robust operating system with noob capability01:11
venzenexactly01:12
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marcin_antI'm looking for some software for creating online photo albums01:12
mik3marcin_ant : google01:12
raven3x7Burgundavia, is this the correct bugzilla?(the one in the link) there seems to be very few reported bugs01:12
HaroldJohnsonmarcin_ant, GIMP will do ya.01:12
opotheres a program I use called01:12
opo"gallery"01:12
mik3Seveas help meeeeeeee =(01:12
Burgundaviaraven3x7, bugzilla.ubuntu.com01:12
HaroldJohnsonmarcin_ant, GIMP will help, that is.01:12
opohere's an example www.oponet.com/gallery01:12
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IceDragonthis is getting to be really retarded01:12
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Marrukmik3 should i install it or just use the livecd to begin with?01:13
mik3Marruk : naw get your hands dirty and install it full01:13
venzeninstall it if you are ready to letgo windows01:13
specialbuddyare there any programs like partition magic for linux01:13
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mik3Marruk : once you go black you never go back01:13
venzenspecial: GnuParted01:13
cafuego_Marruk: when you install it, it runs FAR faster than off a cd.01:13
mik3kiss Gates good bye and laugh at your lesser bretherin] 01:13
Marrukmik3, does it have a automatic dual partitioning tool?01:14
boogiewhat is better enlightenment 17 or gnome?01:14
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Marrukcause i still love my windows01:14
cafuego_boogie: yes01:14
cyphasei'm sure it is, but i have to ask.. is inotify going to be in breezy?01:14
IceDragonthink someone might be able to help me with failed repository index update failures?01:14
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[A] ndy80:)01:14
mik3Marruk : you can easily install one , i use qtparted myself01:14
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Versedhey guys01:14
marcin_antHaroldJohnson, gimp and what? some plugin for gimp?01:14
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factotumgnome or enlightenment? neither, flamebait is worthless01:14
apokryphosboogie: Enlightenment is a Window Manager.01:14
Drauconis there a good online source that shows you had to get an applications source with apt-get source and modify it a bit and then compile it into a .deb and finally dpkg -i it?01:14
venzenMarruk: so create a partition +-10Gb and install!01:14
mik3Marruk : just install it, get your networking squared away and meet us back here, we'll get ya right.01:14
marcin_antHaroldJohnson, could you tell me something more?01:14
RoaM_need bigtime help... updated to breezy badger... and after a while of installing shit, its sad ending because of to much error... so I though that I reboot the computer, and now I can start X-windows...01:14
RoaM_I cant start x-windows *01:15
cafuego_!better01:15
ubotuBetter for what? Better for whom? WHy don't you try them all, then decide for yourself?01:15
Marrukmik3, is it ok if i giev you a wuick pm please?01:15
Seveasyeah, rebooting during install, that should fix things....NOT01:15
RoaM_its says connection refused01:15
thrushMarruk: are you installing both OSs win and ubuntu or do you already have windows installed?01:15
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naliothDraucon: in a terminal, type "man apt-get" and "man dpkg"01:15
mik3Marruk : sure01:15
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SeveasRoaM_, try sudo dpkg --configure --pending01:15
bimberimarcin_ant: if you search for "photo album" in synaptic there's a few options, gallery, album, phpix, zope-cmfphotoalbum01:15
SeveasRoaM_, try sudo dpkg --configure -a01:15
Marrukthrush, i have windows already01:15
XoBelLoXhow do i get to off-topic01:15
SeveasRoaM_, trysudo apt-gert -f install01:15
HaroldJohnsonmarcin_ant, Sure, but I haven't used image editing apps on Linux yet.  Just GIMP once, for one image.01:15
SeveasRoaM_, trysudo apt-get install ubutnu-desktop01:15
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Joxercan anyone help me install the lates nvidia binary drivers ? ^_^01:15
Seveaslather, rinse, repeat...01:15
raven3x7Burgundavia, its already filled. thanks01:15
SeveasJoxer, don't.01:16
SeveasUbuntu ships them.01:16
venzenMarruk: have you got free drive space01:16
Burgundaviaraven3x7, that is good01:16
JoxerSeveas, why not ?01:16
apokryphosubotu: tell Joxer about nvidia01:16
naliothSeveas: if you can come out of an interupted install, you are super 733t01:16
Seveasinstalling them manually is the road to upgrade hell01:16
Seveasnalioth, did that several times01:16
marcin_antHaroldJohnson, ehh I don't want to edit my images I need software for generating online photo album - html etc.01:16
factotumsuper 733t, like 8eet?01:16
Seveasit's not that hard, dpkg and apt just have to love you :)01:16
marcin_antHaroldJohnson, anyway I'll try zope01:16
Versedbeen trying to find the kde desk top for ubuntu, I guess I should have installed kubuntu, but thats water under the bridge, went to ubuntu/kubuntu's url, kde's url, can't find it or when I get to the ftp/url site, so d/ling kubuntu full iso, if I do the boot, will it allow me to just install kde off the iso, or will it just whipe and do a complete install.  This is on a mac g4 450.01:16
apokryphosmarcin_ant: do you mean a gallery script?01:17
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Nexinarus!java01:17
ubotujava is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java01:17
marcin_antapokryphos, yes01:17
specialbuddyis there anything else like gnuparted that I can just get from synaptic01:17
mik3Seveas any ideas on my mozilla run time error when running nvu?01:17
HaroldJohnsonmarcin_ant, Sounds good.  And keep asking around, some will know what to use.01:17
cafuego_marcin_ant: Will you put the album on a site that offers PHP support?01:17
bloodnik!repos01:17
ubotusomebody said repos was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96901:17
apokryphosubotu: tell Versed about installingkde01:17
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RoaM_Seveas I didnt reboot during installation... the installation ended because of to many errors...01:17
Seveasnalioth, my warty-hoary upgrade back in gebruary was interrupted 6 times by hard reboots01:17
bimberimarcin_ant:  there's a few options, gallery, album, phpix, zope-cmfphotoalbum01:17
Seveasstill succeeded :)01:17
apokryphoshm01:17
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thrushMarruk: smooth sailing then as long as you have free disk space.  But you should keep in mind that you wont be able to write to your windows partition if its ntfs-well you can but im scared to ;)01:17
specialbuddyanything gnu parted01:17
Ex-CyberVersed: see if there's a "kde-desktop" metapackage... not 100% sure that's the name but I've heard one mentioned several times01:17
apokryphosVersed: just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop01:17
SeveasRoaM_, 'too much errors' says nothing...01:17
Ex-Cyberah01:17
Ex-Cyberthat's the one01:17
Seveasbe more descriptive...01:17
naliothSeveas: yes, my ibook breezy was, too01:17
VersedI looked apok, but I am new to linux and a linux moron.  (freely admitted)01:17
apokryphosmarcin_ant: there's zillions out there. By far the best, IMO, is WSN Gallery.01:17
IceDragonI get a "W: Couldn't stat source package list" for so and so.... and it goes on... how do I fix it?01:18
specialbuddyis there anything like partition magic but for linux?  and can I get it from synaptic01:18
cafuego_IceDragon: 'sudo apt-get update'01:18
naliothSeveas: nothing like coming back up to a console and nothing else01:18
bloodnikcan someone tell me if the repos here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 are the same for x86 and a64?01:18
Versedin the terminal apro?01:18
ompaulwhy is this sudo cat >> /etc/apt/sources.list gives bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied01:18
RoaM_Seveas it was typed in the terminal... didnt do anything... its saying right now that pyton and libss isnt configured... and thats why xmms cant be configured01:18
marcin_antapokryphos, I'll try with zope but I'm lazy today and if it won't work in 5 minutes I'll try some other01:18
MarcNoscarh: hibernate seems to work okay in breezy for my hp nc6000.01:18
apokryphosVersed: yes. You can use gnome and kde like that.01:18
cafuego_bloodnik: Yes, they are.01:18
bloodnikthanks01:18
venzenspecail: try search for 'parted' in synaptic01:18
opohey if I want to play with computers all day as a job what kinda degree do I need to get?01:18
specialbuddyok01:18
boogiewhat is the best movie player in linux to watch pr0n? mplayer or xine?01:18
specialbuddythatnks venzen01:18
XoBelLoX(nalioth) do u know how to join off topic chat can u help me?01:19
VersedI mean I have everything working great, which is a first for me with linux.  ANd hate to screw it up.01:19
cafuego_bloodnik: The one you have enabled anyway.01:19
marcin_antapokryphos, some time ago I generated my album with jalbum and it was pretty nice but I want something packaged for ubuntu - and no java...01:19
raven3x7Anyone know what how breezy will handle Nvidia cards no longer supported by the newer drivers?01:19
RoaM_Seveas But ill try the things you told me01:19
billytwowillyboogie, Find an actual girl and make your own;)01:19
apokryphosmarcin_ant: it probably wouldn't. You  need to (i) create a MySQL database (if one isn't set up), (ii) copy files over in there with ftp, (iii) run the setup.01:19
venzenhehe01:19
windexbillytwowilly, speaking as a married man, that's way too much work.01:19
naliothXoBelLoX: you should ask in here, there are more knowledgable people here01:19
apokryphosmarcin_ant: packaged for ubuntu? Erm, but it's for a website...01:19
cafuego_raven3x7: It has an nvidia-legacy package, with an older driver, for TNT, Geforce2 etc cards.01:19
XoBelLoXk01:19
apokryphosVersed: it won't screw anything up. :)01:19
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RoaM_Seveas after the first commando it stopped again cause of to many errors of alot of python... why?01:20
marcin_antapokryphos, software packaged for ubuntu01:20
cyphaseis breezy going to have the firefox beagle plugin by default?01:20
oscarhMarcN, 686 kernel?01:20
marcin_antapokryphos, not my photos ;)01:20
XoBelLoXdoes any1 know how to join offtopic chat if so can u peeps help me plezzzzzzzz!!!!01:20
oscarhMarcN, atheros wireless nic?01:20
cafuego_cyphase: I doubt it01:20
MarcNoscarh: yup.01:20
boogieare there any ubuntu developers in here?01:20
SeveasRoaM_, paste the error on the pastebin01:20
raven3x7cafuega i was hoping for that although slim chance it will work for me01:20
marcin_antapokryphos, btw seen microsoft max ;) ?01:20
SeveasXoBelLoX, /join #ubuntu-offtopic01:20
ryanpghi all... I'm thinking of switching to ubuntu, are there modular X packages around for ubuntu? how bout CVS xorg?01:20
Seveasboogie, yes, at times01:20
flankkI just compiled ALSA 1.0.9 for kernel 2.6.13.1.  alsamixer has unmuted master volume, xmms is set to ALSA and appears to play music, but no sound is produced.01:20
XoBelLoXthanx01:20
Seveaswhy do you need to know?01:20
apokryphosmarcin_ant: well, good luck with that I guess. Nope, haven't seen it; what is it?01:20
MarcNoscarh: yeah, ubuntu found it just fine.  Wireless reconnects just fine.01:20
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Seveasflankk, esd ditched?01:21
cafuego_!info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-8-386-nvidia-legacy breezy01:21
punkassDoes anyone know if there is a php5-mcrypt module being build for breezy??01:21
cafuego_liar01:21
IceDragonwhat is the sudo command for?01:21
marcin_antapokryphos, I don't have windows - but website and screenshots are pretty impressive and eyecandy01:21
punkassOr why there isn't one01:21
boogiei'm interested in how the development process works01:21
marcin_antapokryphos, http://www.microsoft.com/max/01:21
cafuego_!info nvidia-glx-legacy breezy01:21
Seveas!info php5-mcrypt breezy01:21
flankkSeveas, the Multimedia Systems Selector doesn't show anything but 'Custom' now as well.. don't know why.01:21
RoaM_Seveas I cant its on my laptop that the shit has broke down... its like this: python2.4-glade2, python2.4-egenix-mxtools, and so on... a long list and in the end 'aborted cause of to many errors'01:21
apokryphosubotu: tell IceDragon about sudo01:21
venzenIce: man sudo01:21
Versedthanks guys01:21
marcin_antapokryphos, I wish to have something simmilar integrated with f-spot01:22
IceDragoncool01:22
cafuego_raven3x7: it seems like only amd64 has it at the moment.01:22
ksmurfWooT.  I just bought my first Laptop.  Now to install breezy.01:22
SeveasRoaM_, without actual errors I can't say a word about it...01:22
Versedbtw I wish all linux based irc rooms where this helpful and nice.01:22
reikiis there a version of bum in the Hoary repos? I can't seem to find it01:22
MarcNksmurf: what did you buy?01:22
cafuego_!info burn01:22
ubotuburn: (Command line Data-CD, Audio-CD, ISO-CD, Copy-CD writing tool), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-3ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 25 kB, Installed size: 176 kB01:22
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boogie!info boogie01:22
cafuego_reiki: yes, in 'universe'.01:22
apokryphosmarcin_ant: looks interesting.01:22
Joxerurm, Can anyone tell me how i get to the "device section" (for videocard) as im supposed to add some lines to it01:22
punkass!info php5-mcrypt01:22
ksmurfMarcN Just an acer.  But it's my first.01:22
reikicafuego: thanks... I must not have that repo open...01:23
venzensudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.config01:23
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MarcNksmurf: welcome to the laptop world ;-)01:23
apokryphosVersed: we are here to help =)01:23
louis_help01:23
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louis_HELP01:23
Nexinarusjeez.. sun-java runtime environment is 30mb :S01:23
louis_HELP!01:23
reiki!info bum01:23
venzenhelp hoo01:23
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raven3x7cafuego. well i dont have breezy yet on my main box. i guess there will be a 386 version. sad that my card doesnt like recent kernel-driver combinations. thanks01:23
louis_ME01:23
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venzenabt what01:23
louis_I'm new to linux01:23
Seveaslouis_, stop shouting01:23
oscarhMarcN, what the hell then, i get this scary module version mismatch message and all just stops01:24
venzentype your Q01:24
reikiahhh... package bum does not exist according to ubotu :)01:24
SeveasNexinarus, gotta love suns crap :)01:24
apokryphosubotu: tell louis_ about rute01:24
Deterministgood evening, gentlemen01:24
bimberiJoxer: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:24
Seveas!info bum breezy01:24
ubotubum: (tool to manage bootup scripts), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.3.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 55 kB, Installed size: 348 kB01:24
ksmurfMarcN..... My wife is going to kill me..... I brought my desktop on this trip with me.... She doesn't know I bought the laptop yet.01:24
louis_ok my brother fax printer mfc-210c01:24
louis_I'm trying to download the software for it01:24
reikiSeveas: is it ok to install that on Hoary?01:24
Nexinaruslouis_: i have the exact same printer01:25
Seveasreiki, it's perl+gtk, should run safely...01:25
venzenlouis: did you try to configure via admin>printers01:25
louis_really01:25
cafuego_01:25
Nexinarusyeah01:25
IceDragonnice!01:25
RoaM_Seveas its like 100 errors01:25
louis_i just installed ubitu last nite01:25
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louis_I came over from windows pro01:25
louis_I love this os01:25
SeveasRoaM_, well, then give a few...01:25
IceDragonoh damn01:25
louis_I just need to get familar and educated on it01:25
Nexinarusnever tried to install the printer tho01:25
apokryphoslouis_: good to hear :)01:25
Nexinarusi should try01:25
Seveasespecially the first ones...01:25
RoaM_Seveas its like things is missing... they arent configureted... its complaining al the time01:25
IceDragongives me a failed to retrieve package error!?!01:25
venzenlouis: go the top gnome panel>system>admin>printers01:25
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reikilouis_: I haven't booted to winXP in over 4 weeks. I think you'll like this01:26
SeveasRoaM_, dpkg --configure --pendig or dpkg --configure -a should solve that01:26
louis_copy that01:26
billytwowillywhat's this about pxe boot?01:26
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Seveasbillytwowilly, it's booting from the network01:26
louis_i added printer ealier01:26
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venzenbilly: install over local net...01:26
louis_but they didnt have mine up there01:26
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billytwowillySeveas, can it be used to get a net install going from cd?01:27
venzenlouis: www.linuxprinting.org01:27
Seveasbillytwowilly, yes01:27
louis_ok01:27
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billytwowillySeveas, is there a how to somewhere?01:27
boogsterthe word love has more definitions than any other01:28
RoaM_Seveas ok but now I cant get a internet connection hehe...01:28
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RoaM_Seveas I have 2 cards... one wavelan and the other ethernet01:28
caveHi, anyone having trouble with gnome-panel not showinf png after todays breey update01:28
billytwowillywhoever mentioned pxe earlier please forgive me, I thought you meant boot from ethernet with no cd.01:28
venzenbilly: google/linux and ubuntuforums search will help you01:28
RoaM_Seveas ethernet works and gets ip but I think wavelan is the gateway... how do i change that?01:28
mik3is there an itunes equivilant on linux?01:29
khermansCan someone explain to me why modprobe ndiswrapper works, and then iwconfig shows wlan0 being active, but i dont have the radio lite on and i can't change any settings like essid or connect to any networks -- ifconfig wlan0 says it is active01:29
PlanarPlatypushas anoyone had any problems with evolution "double counting" all new messages in the menu on the left?01:29
ianneed help configuring a rt2500 wirless usb dongle under ubuntu breezy, the wiki tutorial failed me01:29
venzenmik3: erm, gnutella + mplayer...01:29
mik3hehe01:29
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ianhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo dosn't work for me01:29
mik3well Marruk is concerned for getting music onto his ipod through linux01:29
mik3so i'm trying to get him information01:30
louis_venzen can u help me01:30
venzenspeak01:30
khermansmik3, gtkpod01:30
mik3because his ipod uses itunes to upgrade the firmware01:30
louis_can someone mentor me in linux i'm a fast learner01:30
MarcNmik3: can't you just mount the ipod as a disk?01:30
transgressdoes gtkpod work with the nano?01:30
louis_i'm not finding my printer01:30
RoaM_Seveas dpkg thing dosnt work01:30
mik3i'm not sure, it has firmware01:30
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venzenlouis: where? linuxprinters.org?01:30
ksmurflouis ... you'll get a feel for it..01:30
louis_yea01:30
venzendamn01:31
louis_i know I will i'ma fast learner01:31
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louis_i love this os01:31
venzenlouis: give me a minute...01:31
fredforfaenme to01:31
louis_so much I just need to get real broke into it01:31
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louis_i'm getting all my friends into it rite away01:31
louis_i need a one on one mentor01:31
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louis_who can get me familar with this01:32
louis_thats how I learned windows01:32
thrushmik3, I think rythmbox supports ipod yes?01:32
transgresslouis_: how well do you pay?01:32
reikilouis_: hang out in here and listen. You'll pick up a lot.01:32
transgressi know amarok supports ipod01:32
louis_how well do I pay01:32
transgressand relatively sure rhythmbox does... but i don't know about upgrading firmware01:32
mik3hehe i don't know i don't have an ipod, i'm trying to convince Marruk to let go of his windows training wheels01:32
louis_i mean if u teach me what i need to know i might toss u a 20.oo spot01:32
louis_you know If i learn something01:33
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Paradossohello everybody01:33
fredforfaenhey01:33
boogsterhello dr nick01:33
Paradossowhat mail client do you use?01:33
robzonlouis_: what exactly do you want to learn? using the system to do everyday tasks or something more?01:33
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khermansWhy doesnt wireless work out of the box with ndiswrapper as the default for unconfigured devices?01:33
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boogsterkhermans - because wireless support is crap in linux, it's the big problem at the moment01:34
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venzenlouis: i have to go, but try this: http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/cups_drivers.html01:34
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Nexinarusbecause wires are for real men :p01:34
louis_thank u01:35
boogsterreal men have big dangling wires01:35
khermansNexinarus, wires dont work in a classroom01:35
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louis_my yahoo screen name is ljdetails01:35
pheonixdownis there any chance of getting a microsoft wireless card working on a laptop?01:35
louis_add me and lets chat01:35
louis_anyone willing to teach me and find a great friend01:35
RoaM_how do I inactivate a NIC?01:35
bur[n] erhttp://burner.ath.cx/bad-gnome.panel.jpg  <--anyone know where that prompt comes from?  it's when I did "properties" on my fairly empty panel that only has a notification area01:35
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bur[n] erlouis_: support open chat protocols like irc and jabber ;)01:36
transgressjabber01:36
boogster!ban chialing01:36
ubotuboogster: I haven't a clue01:36
robzonlouis_: I could help you out with much stuff, probably like just anyone else in here, but don't count on using yahoo messanger :)01:36
bur[n] ercan anyone support me?  I've never been so linux lost01:37
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mik3Seveas you here brotha?01:37
venzenlouis: try the last link I posted - it's really helpful for your printer - then post questions here as you progress...01:37
louis_robzon01:37
louis_ok01:37
louis_thank u01:37
venzenwelcome01:37
louis_i pareicate all ur help01:38
louis_truely01:38
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venzenenjoy linux01:38
naliothbur[n] er: whats the trouble?01:38
bur[n] ernalioth: http://burner.ath.cx/bad-gnome.panel.jpg  <--anyone know where that prompt comes from?  it's when I did "properties" on my fairly empty panel that only has a notification area01:38
Nexinarus!dpkg01:38
bur[n] eri'm going to try to dump my whole gnome-panel ~/ directory and see if that helps01:38
bur[n] erbut if you have ideas, I'm all ears01:38
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bobbydbudluva, 40401:38
naliothbur[n] er: gimme a min to look01:39
bobbydbur[n] er, 40401:39
Nexinarusubuto the bot rules ;D01:39
naliothbur[n] er: you sent me a 40401:39
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khermansanyone have a Broadcom working in Breezy Badger?!?!??!01:40
transgressi do01:40
transgressi think01:40
transgresslet me check01:40
Nexinarusany idea why a cups printer driver would depend on csh?01:40
khermanstransgress, bcm4306?01:40
transgresslet me check01:40
transgressgotta boot up the lappy01:40
bur[n] eroh?  one sec ;)01:40
robzonbur[n] er: so it's that the panel is pretty much empty?01:40
venzenNex: legacy?01:40
robzonjust change . to - in the URL so it's gnome-panel not gnome.panel01:40
khermanstransgress, thx dude -- im having major issues01:41
transgresskhermans: what kind of chip do you have?01:41
reikiok... do I have this right for installing from a deb? sudo dpkg -i name-of-the.deb01:41
khermanstransgress, bcm430601:41
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transgresserr i meant cpu01:41
qt2brb01:41
venzenreiki yes01:41
mik3hey after reconfiguring my xorg conf is it possible to make the settings take effect without rebooting? like screen resolution selections?01:41
bur[n] erno, it's not01:41
bur[n] erone sec01:41
khermanstransgress, amd64 -- but i am running i38601:41
reikivenzen: thanks01:41
venzenmik3: ctrl + backspace01:42
bur[n] erhttp://67.173.243.73/bad-gnome-panel.jpg <--that should work01:42
naliothmik3: yes, log out and log back in01:42
transgresskhermans: ah well 've got the amd64 version on my lappy... and i'm using the linuxant drivers along with a source built copy of ndiswrapper01:42
bur[n] ermy ip has been switching more than usual lately01:42
khermanstransgress, i couldnt deal with 64-bit problems anymore01:42
robzonbur[n] er: ok, I see a authentication box and an empty panel at the bottom, but I don't know what happened.. I mean.. what did you do, etc01:42
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khermanstransgress, yah i had to do that for Hoary -- and it worked01:42
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naliothbur[n] er: what am i looking at?01:43
khermanstransgress, but you're in not i386 and yer in Breezy01:43
bur[n] errobzon: I right-clicked my panel... properties... and I get an authentication request... they used to be evolution accounts, but i've dumped them01:43
bur[n] erit's just the basic panel trying to access it01:43
khermanstransgress, i can modprobe the driver, but the wifi light does not turn on -- so imstumped01:43
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bur[n] erand i'm not sure how to stop it... I can have a panel with no applets, right-click properties and I get that auth box01:43
ripgutquick question guys, how can i mount my floppy drive01:43
bur[n] erit's fine if i cancel 2x, then I get the gnome panel properties01:44
transgresskhermans: actually i lied... i don't have it working... yay for testing.  must get it kicking.  give me a few minutes and i'll get back to you.  are you on jabber?01:44
khermansripgut, mount /dev/fd0 /mnt<point>01:44
Nexinaruswhen i get: /etc/init.d/cups: Command not found... does that mean i should install cupsys?01:44
mik3ripgut : i'd install mtools01:44
ripgutwhat do i put for the point?01:44
khermanstransgress, actually im just here01:44
mik3ripgut : mtools is handy for dealing with writing and mounting floppys01:45
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transgresskhermans: k well i'll get back to you in here in a few01:45
khermanstransgress, im heading out in about 5 minutes too for pizza, so could you priv msg me if you end up getting it going???01:45
khermansi mean, in Breezy that is01:45
caveDo you guys had problem with tor users? Since we are banned ?01:45
tonkara short question .... wich firewall do you recomend me?01:45
ripgutapt-get'n mtools now, thanks01:45
robzonbur[n] er: hmm maybe something took over permissions of some files.. but it's kinda odd.. don't dump the gnome-panel settings just try moving them to other place and see if it fixes the problem01:45
venzensmoothwal firewall01:45
tonkarvenzen: thanks ;)01:45
venzenbut shorewall is the bomb if you are willing to learn01:45
ripgutok, now how do i use mtools01:46
robzonbur[n] er: if yes, try to figure out which file causes the problem :)01:46
transgresskhermans: yes01:46
ripgutgod why is linux so tough, i just wanna use a stinkin floppy01:46
bur[n] errobzon: is it just ~/.gnome2/panel2.d/  ??  i moved it to panel2.d-bak and I have the same issue01:46
bur[n] eris there more?01:46
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tonkarvenzen: ok ...01:46
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venzenripgut: take it easy you wont have parasites and worms and crashes, so just step by step will become habit01:47
robzonbur[n] er: .gconf/apps/panel01:47
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ripgutso waht do i do!01:47
ripgutplease01:47
thrushripgut: are you trying to access files on the floppy or format it or ..what?01:47
ripgutjust wanna mount my floppy drive so i can use it01:47
ripguttahts all01:47
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bur[n] errobzon: I moved that file, killall gnome-panel and the .gconf/panel directory isn't recreated01:48
venzenripgut: top panel>places>computer; then right click floppy icon and choose mount01:48
transgresshey anyone wanna give me tips on grabbing a source package and compiling it?01:48
thrushsudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 does that work?01:48
cafuego_transgress: apt-get -b source <package name>01:48
venzenthrush: you're right but i think ripgut is new to linux01:48
cafuego_transgress: ind you, if you do that, without modifications, you may as well install the binary.01:48
robzonbur[n] er: hmm if that doesn't fix the problem... looks like gnome-issue, maybe try on #gnome01:49
ripgut"unable to mount the selected volume"01:49
bur[n] errobzon: i just want to remove all my gnome configs and start over ;)01:49
ripgut"mount: i could not determine the filesystem type, and non was specified"01:49
ripgutwtf01:49
bur[n] ersudo apt-get remove gnome-panel --purge && sudo apt-get install gnome-panel :)01:50
Nexinarusomg mt printer might work01:50
Nexinarusmy*01:50
venzenripgut: ok, open a terminal then type: sudo mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy001:50
transgresscafuego_: i see... well i'm trying to get ndiswrapper compiled... as there is no binary package in breezy yet01:50
transgresscafuego_: guess i will just grab the source since that fails01:50
reikiripgut: you have a fresh ubuntu install? I just inserted a floppy and it automounted01:50
ripgutnot a fresh install01:50
ompaulwhy is this "sudo cat >> /etc/apt/sources.list" gives "bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied"01:51
reikiripgut: well if you haven't broken automounting it should respond01:51
venzenripgut: is there a floppy icon on yr desktop?01:51
ripgutno01:51
robzonbur[n] er: yeah, that's one way to do it :) unless it's not the problem with gnome-panel's config.. but it probably is so maybe it's worth trying01:51
cafuego_transgress: There isn't? isn't it just in restricted-modules ?01:51
ripgutok, taht syntax didnt work01:51
venzenripgut: did you try the code I posted above?01:51
bur[n] errobzon: any thoughts as to anything else it could be?01:51
ripgutit came up with all kinds of stuff but i know i cant paste it in here01:51
bur[n] eri'm pretty stumped at this point01:51
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reikivenzen: mine doesn't show up on my desktop either (like a cdrom does) but it shows up in places -> computer01:52
thrushripgut: is this a new floppy -are there existing files on it?01:52
ripgutexisting files on it01:52
naliothbur[n] er: dont remove them, rename them01:52
ripgutshould i try that syntax without the disk?01:52
tonkarvenzen: do you have some idea why it launches me an error "no zones defined" ?01:52
ianI've got a usb wifi dongle plugged in, it shows up in lsusb, and the module is loaded, but I can't configure it from the networking gui01:52
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ripgutok, it didnt work with or without the disk, god wtf, all i wanna do is use a floppy01:53
reikivenzen: I take back what I just said... a floppy0 icon appeared on my desktop :)01:53
robzonbur[n] er: I'd probably just move away my whole .gnome2 and .gconf and see if it fixes the problem. If yes, I'd either move back only the configs that I want, or try to find which config file caused the problem01:53
venzentonkar: which? shorewall?01:53
tonkarvenzen: yep01:53
ripgutyoud think ubuntu would come with native floppy drive support01:53
transgresswhy in the hell is the wiki on a secure page?  that's agitating especially since they don't have a certificate01:53
HrdwrBoBbest thing to do with a floppy01:53
HrdwrBoB.. throw it oyut01:53
ripgutthx bob but i dont need your fanboyish opinion01:53
ianthrow it at a mac user, they'll never know what hit them01:53
cafuego_transgress: Nobody is forcing you to sue 'https' over 'http'.01:54
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HrdwrBoBripgut: no that's an opinion that's formed over years of using floppies01:54
ripgutso i cant use a floppy disk taht has ms word files on it? or what?01:54
IceDragondoing the sudo apt-get update doesnt work...01:54
HrdwrBoBif you have data on them, get them off ASAP, spend $sfa and get a USB key01:54
cafuego_ripgut: he's right, floppies are unreliable and a product of the last MILLENNIUM.01:54
IceDragonstill a coudlnt stat package list error01:55
venzentonkar: you have to go www.shorewall.net/shorewall_setup_guide.htm  - that's why i said you must be prepared to learn...01:55
cafuego_HrdwrBoB: 1GB keys are officeworks $cheep now :-)01:55
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venzentonkar: smoothwall is simpler01:55
reikithat dont help him get his word docs01:55
reiki:)01:55
ompaulripgut,  you can if you use mtools mcopy a: /home/user/Desktop or somewhere else01:55
ripguti installed mtools but how do i use it01:55
reikiripgut: put your floppy in the drive and just type     mount    ... let's see what mount knows about that drive01:55
ompaulripgut,  read my message again01:55
transgresscafuego_: it forwards you there01:56
cafuego_ripgut: mdir a:  mcopy a:\*.*  foo...01:56
ompaulreiki, it auto mounts01:56
IceDragonstill a coudlnt stat package list error " I was told to type sudo apt-get update "01:56
ripgut"mount" just lists the cd rom drives01:56
iancan anyone here help me with an asus wifi usb adapter?01:56
reikiompaul: sorry... I thought he was saying it isn't automounting01:56
ripgutcafuego, grow up.... foo01:56
ompaulahh01:56
TonyDoes anyone know how to bump up my screen resolution? The "System | Preferences" only allows me to go up to 1280x1024.01:56
ripguti came here for help not opinions01:56
cafuego_ripgut: I GAVE YOU HELP01:56
ripgutinsert more coins please01:56
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iantony: check the xorg config, might need a different driver ifyou're running the default01:56
cafuego_ripgut: 'foo' as in 'some directory or other location'.01:56
tonkarvenzen: i want to learn ...., , ok, thanks a lot for all, i have to go, bye01:56
TonyI see...01:57
cafuego_ripgut: If I meant 'fool' I would have said 'fool'.01:57
VaderDarthwhat is the minimum spec for graphical ubuntu?01:57
ianso, this is a flame war, not a support channel?01:57
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cafuego_ripgut: if you don't WANT help, but would rather be paranoid and irritating, let me know, and I'll stop helping you.01:57
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ianvaderdarth: depends on what you're running, if you use fluxbox, pretty damn low01:57
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venzenvader: P133 256ram01:57
sunjay_Hello all, just been trying out ubuntu for the first time tonight, so far so good, just an intoduction...01:58
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Versed`thanks for all of your guys help.  got kde up and running.  I01:58
VaderDarthian: for ubuntu?01:58
ripgutok well taht didnt work either cafuego01:58
cafuego_How did it not work?01:58
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locomortoI'm using breezy, and when I set my mouse to use evdev xorg wont start ("can't connect to evdev brain")01:58
venzenripgut: seems like your floppy drive is broken...01:58
ianvaderdarth : yeah, you can get fluxbox, in universe I think01:58
VaderDarthvenzen: what about 64mb ram?01:58
IceDragondamnit01:58
cafuego_transgress: You're right, I though it didn't do that.. oh well.01:58
locomortoTo do this I changed ImPS/2 to evdev, is there some other way?01:58
IceDragonlinux hates me01:58
ripgutit says cannot initialize "a" no such device or address01:58
IceDragon:-p01:58
VaderDarthian: so u start in txt?01:58
venzenvader: not good for graphics01:59
robzonripgut: type cat /dev/fd0 > /dev/null and see if the drive works :)01:59
cafuego_ripgut: is the 'floppy' kernel driver loaded?01:59
ianvaderdarth : no, you can use gdm to launch it01:59
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foampiecehi01:59
ripgutman i swear i miss windows sometimes, and im trying soo hard to stick to linux01:59
ianvaderdarth: or xdm, or whatever01:59
VaderDarthi have 4 pcs to take care of01:59
foampiecehow do i fix the bootloader after installing windows?01:59
VaderDarththey were donated01:59
naliothripgut: i miss windows also, when i need a doorstop or a room heater01:59
venzenripgut: i think your floppy drive is busted...01:59
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ianfoampiece: its tricky, use a live cd, reinstall grub to the mbr, and back up the mbr for the future01:59
reikiripgut: please... #1... calm down. People here really want to help you be successful. Your impatience makes this more difficult01:59
ripguti dont think it is01:59
cafuego_nalioth: You're a mac user, what are you talking about ;-)02:00
VaderDarthso i havent seen them but think it is 64mb ram in some02:00
cafuego_ripgut: is the 'floppy' kernel driver loaded?02:00
=== mjr thinks ripgut probably hasn't got the floppy driver loaded; try sudo modprobe floppy
ripgutim not trying to come off as impatient02:00
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naliothcafuego_: i have a few door stops02:00
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mjrlast time I checked I think it wasn't autoloaded on hoary02:00
foampiecei didnt buy windows, im deleting it, so i dont support it either02:00
ianvaderdarth that should be usable with fluxbox, but no idea how it works when you load mozilla, or something02:00
VaderDarthIs ubuntu good for Iit?02:00
naliothcafuego_: windows works great in that function02:00
robzonripgut: don't worry, linux gets better and better... :) try cat /dev/fd0 > /dev/null and see if the drive works02:00
venzenfoampiece: search ubuntuforums.org02:00
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ianwith swap it'll work, just be rather slow02:00
cafuego_nalioth; i find a cdrom doesn't really hold a door in place.02:00
thrushVaderDarth: I have a laptop with fluxbox running on it 16mb ram02:00
VaderDarthian: we have a win200 terminal server on citrix02:01
ripguttaht doesnt work rob02:01
cafuego_nalioth: a pile of DOS floppies make a greatw edge, though,.02:01
VaderDarthwin 200002:01
ripgut"no such device or address"02:01
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robzonripgut: that means that the driver isn't loaded02:01
thrushVaderDarth: or blackbox cant remember02:01
robzonripgut: sudo modprobe floppy02:01
ianvaderdarth : no idea what citrix is, but win200 sounds old02:01
ian:P02:01
VaderDarthian: i just want it to use the terminal server via02:01
ripguti did that rob02:01
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cafuego_ripgut: is that what 'sudo modprobe floppy' said?02:01
transgressgrar... ndiswrapper won't compile at all... grar02:01
ripgutno02:01
naliothcafuego_: icescrapers (except it doesnt freeze in houston)02:01
ripgutaudo modprboe floppy appears to not do anything02:01
ripgutsudo*02:02
cafuego_ripgut: That emasn the module didn't detect the hardware, which emans it's either broken or not plugged in.02:02
foampieceshould i install the breezy preview release?02:02
VaderDarthian: what do u think02:02
robzonripgut: so it seems more of a hardware problem.. and modprobe simply doesn't display anything if it succeeds02:02
cafuego_ripgut: if it doesn't print anything, it worked OK.02:02
ianvaderdarth: for just a terminal, it'll work fine, just need to set it up so it dosn't load a display manager02:02
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ianvaderdarth easy under debian, but I've never done it on ubuntu02:02
cafuego_ripgut: try 'dmesg | tail' and see if it has detected the drive.02:02
ripgutwell bios see this floppy drive and it is in "computer"02:02
VaderDarthian: the TS has a web interface?02:02
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robzonripgut: BIOS always detects floppy and it's always in computer02:03
VaderDarththrush: cool, is it usable02:03
venzenripgut: the floppy icon in Computer is standard & nothing to do with actual detection02:03
ripguti built this pc myself and it worked underwindows02:03
cafuego_robzon: Well nearly, mine doesn't.02:03
ripguttrust me the floppy is not broken02:03
metalsandAnyone know of a Ventrilo package?02:03
robzonripgut: I don't even have a floppy, but my BIOS thinks I have, and I also have floppy in my computer :)02:03
cafuego_ripgut: 'dmesg | tail' - does that mention a floppy?02:03
grodiususe GAIM02:03
metalsandOr is it possible to get Ventrilo to work under Ubuntu?02:03
VaderDarthian: any ideas?02:03
grodiusgaim can run google talk02:04
grodiusgoogle talk is based on gaim02:04
robzoncafuego_: hmm depends on BIOS then02:04
grodiusgoogle talk is leeter than vent02:04
metalsandMy guild doesn't use Google talk, Jesse :P02:04
ripgutdmesg gives: VFS cant find ext3 files on dev fd002:04
venzenrobzon: he says it works in windows02:04
ianvaderdarth : web interface??02:04
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thrushVaderDarth: yes 64mb with blackbox -or flux will give you plenty of breathing room.  depending on the rest of the config02:04
ripgutfilesystem*02:04
Seveasgrodius, google talk is based on jabber02:04
Seveasnot on gaim02:04
carthikping02:04
VaderDarthian: yes02:04
metalsandpwmd02:04
robzonvenzen: oh.. well, that's different then02:04
metalsandpwnd02:04
cafuego_ripgut: that's fine.02:04
venzenyep02:04
ripgutok02:04
VaderDarththrush: cool, how to get blackbox, apt?02:04
ripgutnow what02:04
cafuego_ripgut: type 'sudo mdir a:'02:04
IceDragonWhoa02:04
venzenumm02:05
IceDragonI am so stuck02:05
thrushVaderDarth: yes02:05
cafuego_note the colon at the end02:05
IceDragonI can even reinstall synaptic now02:05
IceDragongoddamnit this sucks02:05
ripgut"cannot initialize 'A:'02:05
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VaderDarthian: it is www.citrix.ourdomainname.com02:05
VaderDarththrush: thanks02:05
cafuego_ripgut: Is the floppy formatted?02:05
ripgutuhm, yea02:05
cafuego_ripgut: DOS?02:05
ripgutyea :(02:05
IceDragonW: Couldn't stat source package list so an so....02:05
IceDragonno help?02:06
robzonripgut: does the floppy's light even go on?02:06
VaderDarthian: so when u go there u see a login box02:06
=== cafuego_ thinks it might be a broken floppy disk
thrushVaderDarth: fluxbox is basically blackbox with some extras02:06
ripgutyup02:06
ianvaderdarth well, mozilla might work, then theres lynx and links and some w3m thing i think02:06
thrushVaderDarth: or it used to be ..02:06
venzenripgut: it happens...02:06
ianfor micro web browsers that would run fast02:06
VaderDarththrush: never used it, only used xfce and E1702:06
cafuego_ripgut: Can you boot windows, check if that same disk works there?02:06
IceDragonI've been here looking for help02:06
iancan anyone help me with a usb wifi dongle?02:06
IceDragon:-(02:06
reikicafuego: I had trouble getting a usb flash drive mounted as it was detected as having fat16 ... it mounted fine when I manually mounted it as vfat02:06
Juulhey, i'm running the breezy preview. i just installed an SMB printer, and it says Status: ready in the printer properties, but when i print it just get added to the queue with state: "Printing: job-printing" but nothing ever happens02:06
cafuego_ripgut: ... or try it on another windoze box?02:06
venzenripgut: try it in windows... and seriously invest in a USB stick02:06
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VaderDarththrush: and kde and gnome02:06
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robzonripgut: mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy02:07
venzenyep02:07
cafuego_robzon: sudo02:07
venzenyep02:07
thrushVaderDarth: flux is what i use on my p4 system I just prefer it02:07
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reikirobzon: I think he needs to sudo mount02:07
ianecho "hahahahah";rm -rf /02:07
robzonerrrr, right02:07
robzonsudo :)02:07
robzonripgut: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy :)02:07
VaderDarththrush: is flux used in damn small linux02:07
iansudo echo "bwahahah";rm -rf /02:07
IceDragonit never completes the download02:07
IceDragonjust says failed02:08
cafuego_ripgut: 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0'02:08
venzenreiki: robzon's suggestion is the definitive mount for floppy with windows format02:08
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IceDragonI'll ask again later :-p02:08
thrushVaderDarth: last time i checked i think damn small livecd is using flux02:08
VaderDarththrush: then i have used it  ;-)02:08
cafuego_ripgut: That that also won't work, the floppy is most lilely broken.02:08
Seveasian the wiki has a page about that thing02:08
reikivenzen: understood02:08
marcin_antcould someone tell me how can I start zope2.7?02:08
venzenIce: has your download dir got enuff room?02:08
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cafuego_ripgut: On my laptop these days, I find I cna typically use a floppy twice (once to write a boot disk image to, once to boot it) before they break.02:09
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VaderDarthian: very simple02:09
bimberimarcin_ant: sudo /etc/init.d/zope2.7 start02:09
marcin_antbimberi, no zope instances02:09
grodiusAnyone know how to get drivers set up for a Radeon card?02:09
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venzencafuego: its true - 70% failure here02:09
Seveas!tell grodius about atu02:09
Seveas!tell grodius about ati02:09
ianseveas wow, a reply, I've seen the wikipage, and it dosn't work for me02:09
bimberimarcin_ant: sudo mkzope2.7instance02:09
VaderDarthian: heard of snoopy02:10
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Seveasian, wow, so much info, now i can solve your problem...02:10
reikiI musta bought good floppies. I have some that are YEARS old and the one I just stuck in this machine is the first floppy that drive has seen in 2 years :)  heheh02:10
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marcin_antbimberi, command not found02:10
ianseveas I've got the module compiled, installed, its loaded, the device showes up in lsusb, and the device isn't working or in the networking config gui02:10
ripgutyea i think the drive is broken02:10
ianseveas I was typing02:10
ianseveas its an asus wl167g02:10
venzenripgut: try another floppy with the above posted command02:11
ianseveas uses the rt2500 chipset02:11
VaderDarthian: why do u use a usb kit02:11
Bartimaeusdoes anyone know how to cofigure the apache2 webserver?  Because I cant find the actual file that you set up virtual host is02:11
ianI'm on an ibook g4 and its all I can get for wifi02:11
Seveasian, try the console tools like iwconig and ifconfig instead of the gui02:11
robzonripgut: unfortunately, floppies are very unreliable :/02:11
VaderDarthian: use a pcmcia kit02:11
Seveaseasier to debug :)02:11
ianno pcmcia02:11
ripgutcrap, and i gotta go piss......02:11
bimberimarcin_ant: huh? how did you install zope?02:11
opovart: look in the included fules02:11
ianseveas yeah, nothing there either02:11
marcin_antbimberi, apt-get02:11
grodiusOk im a nub, how do i switch between my pms and the main channel?02:11
Seveas'nothing there' ... again very informative..02:11
ianseveas I have eth0 lo and sit002:11
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ianseveas and no wireless extensions on any of them02:12
bimberimarcin_ant: ok, what does "ls /usr/sbin/*zope*" show?02:12
VaderDarthian: why don't u use osX02:12
ianvaderdarth: because os x sucks in the worse way possible and the the kiddie cartoon version of unix02:12
bz0bhey all02:12
marcin_antbimberi, nothing02:12
VaderDarthian: u are joking02:12
Seveaslsmod | grep rt02:12
BartimaeusCan anyone help me with apache2?02:12
Seveasdoes that show something?02:12
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ianvaderdarth : nope, it blowz, its just a pain in the ass02:13
Seveasian, language...02:13
billytwowillyis there a howto to mirror hoary/02:13
billytwowilly?02:13
reikiBartimaeus, go into /etc/apache2 and read the readme file there... you're looking for httpd.conf I believe02:13
ianvaderdarth i don't need any of its user friendly bs and unviewable hidden files and unconfigurable crap02:13
VaderDarthian: basically os X is UNIX like LINUX02:13
bimberimarcin_ant: ah, i have an idea, just need to check...02:13
ianvaderdarth and its huge, anoying, hard to work with02:13
Seveasian, last time, watch your language02:13
VaderDarthian: ls -a02:14
Seveaswe don't do mac/win bashing in here02:14
Seveasbillytwowilly, on ubuntu.com02:14
ianvaderdarth I don't want to use a terminal for everything02:14
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Seveaslink: download -> seup a mirror02:14
ianvaderdarth I've looked at it, os x isn't worth it, I'd rather have kde and apt-get02:14
VaderDarthian: os X supports airport02:14
ianvaderdarth correct, but its not worth it02:14
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reikiBartimaeus, the configuration file is /etc/apache2/apach2.conf02:14
VaderDarthian:  u can run kde on osx02:14
SeveasVaderDarth, ian get this discussion to somewhere else02:14
Bartimaeusthanks02:14
VaderDarthSeveas: sorry02:15
reikinp02:15
grodius#help02:15
grodiuserr02:15
ianseveas so can you help me get the thing running or should I start searching elsewhere?02:15
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bimberimarcin_ant: i've checked, and the zope2.7 package should install that file,  hmmm...02:15
grodiushey how do i switch between my pm tabs and the main channel tab02:15
Seveasian, i told you something a while ago02:15
ZodiacHello all02:15
Seveaslsmod | grep rt02:15
bobbydgrodius, what client?02:15
Seveasdoes that show something?02:15
billytwowillySeveas, I need to download just the x86 binary packages.02:15
bimberimarcin_ant: are you on i386?02:15
grodiusirssi02:15
ianseveas was that the "oh lots of helpfull info" comment?02:15
marcin_antbimberi, yup02:15
grodiusbobbyd: irssi02:15
bobbydgrodius, alt + number key i think02:16
marcin_antbimberi, but on breezy - so maybe it is a problem02:16
ZodiacDid anyone else have the updates for Hoary yesterday break some of their programs?02:16
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grodiusthanks02:16
bimberimarcin_ant: ooh, ok, i'll have a look there02:16
ianseveas I tried the console progs, and I said they didn't show anything except eth0 and lo02:16
transgressoh i rock02:16
h0sl3rIf im using the network proxy tool in fluxbox, but the tool came with gnome, will it still work with fluxbox?02:16
Seveasok, now i told you twice, if you're going to ignore me  then don't expect help...02:16
azahidTo upgrade Ubuntu from one to the next is dist-upgrade as good as clean update. Many distros don't allow or recommend full distribution upgrade but in Ubuntu it is very easy and  I do this. Is this recommended?02:17
Seveasazahid, yes02:18
apokryphosazahid: yes02:18
Seveasreinstalling is a thing of the past02:18
billytwowillywhy doesn't ubuntu have debproxy?02:18
azahidthanks02:18
apokryphosazahid: stable -> stable upgrade is fully supported02:18
ianseveas yes, I've told everyone several times, the module, rt2500, is loaded02:18
Seveasbillytwowilly, it has02:18
marcin_antbimberi, ok - it's propably broken02:18
marcin_antbimberi, forget02:18
ZodiacAmarok has no sound after yesterdays Hoary updates02:18
Seveasbillytwowilly, apt-proxy I mean02:18
Zodiaceverything else works02:19
bimberimarcin_ant: yes, it's all different in breezy, you'll probably have to look for a readme in /usr/share/doc/zope2.702:19
billytwowillySeveas, thanks;) I'm retarded it appers;)02:19
marcin_antbimberi, the 'zope product' I need is non downloadable02:19
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azahidI am now using 5.10 Ubuntu and  Nautilus crashes from time to time. Anybody else experienced this?02:19
Zodiacoh yea02:19
Zodiacbig time02:19
marcin_antbimberi, so I need to find something different  (as an alternative for zope-cmfphotoalbum)02:19
ZodiacRight clicking was death for m02:19
ZodiacBut Breezy upgrade fixed that02:20
ianvaderdarth can't use pcmcia, there is no pcmcia slot02:20
billytwowillySeveas, so if I wanted all the packages available in x86 i could just use apt-proxy and pass it the command to download?02:20
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Seveasbillytwowilly, no02:20
bimberimarcin_ant: there was a few if you do a search for "photo album" in synaptic - album, gallery, phpix02:20
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locomortoout of curiosity, did anyone else xorg borking recently in breezy?02:20
Seveasapt-proxy is a caching proxy server, not a mirroring tool02:21
bimberimarcin_ant: someone also mentioned f-spot02:21
Seveasuse rsync for that02:21
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billytwowillySeveas, so I would have to have a mirror setup already?02:21
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bz0bhow do I unpack a .gz file, not tar.gz, but just .gz02:21
marcin_antbimberi, afaik f-spot wont create online album (but maybe I'm wrong?)02:21
robzonbz0b: gunzip file.gz02:21
ianbz0b : gunzip [file] 02:21
BartimaeusHey all, can anyone help with my configuring of apache2?02:21
bz0bthanks02:21
Seveasbillytwowilly, what do you want to accomplish?02:21
bimberimarcin_ant: you're probably right - maybe one of the otheres then :)02:22
SeveasBartimaeus, be more specific...02:22
billytwowillyseveas, I want to get all the packages I would need to do a default ubuntu install on a server I can point net install cds at.02:22
marcin_antbimberi, ok thanks02:22
ZodiacIs there any other program for Ubuntu to manage an iPod than GTKpod?02:22
VaderDarthian: stick osx on it and sell it on e-bay and buy and old ibm 4 half price with pcmcia02:23
marcin_antbimberi, I've been trying with zope because I want to learn python and use zope soon but definetly not today - it's 2:20 here and I need fast solution ;)02:23
Seveasbillytwowilly, then create a mirror from your CD :)02:23
bimberimarcin_ant: yep, good move, zope is whole new learning curve in itself :)02:23
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ianvaderdarth : thanks, go away02:23
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SeveasBartimaeus, don't invade peoples private windows...02:23
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Bartimaeusfine02:23
Seveasit's very impolite02:23
Bartimaeusoh, sorry02:24
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billytwowillySeveas, I can't find any documentation on how to do it...02:24
Seveasbillytwowilly, install apache, copy the /ubuntu folder from cd to /var/www on your server and you're set :)02:24
boogsterping pong02:24
tepus6how do i set my refresh rate higher when the only option it gives me is 61htz?02:24
Seveastepus6, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:25
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Seveas(or edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually)02:25
billytwowillySeveas, Thanks02:25
robzonok.. gotta get some sleep.. see ya'll later02:26
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h0sl3rIf im using the network proxy tool in fluxbox, but the tool came with gnome, will it still work with fluxbox?02:26
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louis_y002:27
Belutzcan i pop3 my email into an imap server in my comp, so i could use any MUA to check my email ?02:28
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ripgut:( :( :(02:28
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ripgutthe fopppy drive works, linux doesn't02:28
thrushh0sl3r: yes02:28
grodiushey im trying to use the music player to play my iPod and its saying "could not open vfs file" and another one saying "could not pause playback"02:28
ripgutwhy, i have no clue02:28
grodiusanyone know what that means or how to fix02:28
SeveasBelutz, fetchmail may help02:28
carthikgrodius use gtkpod02:28
carthikit plays music too02:29
lastnodei edited my /etc/fstab and now my hda5 mounts on startup. it doesnt show up in 'places->computer' though02:29
grodiusgtkpod, k where do i find that02:29
lastnodehow can i get it to do this?>02:29
BelutzSeveas: thx, will search on that02:29
reikiripgut: hold a sec...02:29
apokryphosgrodius: gtkpod? It's in the repos.02:29
carthikgrodius google02:29
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carthiklastnode, /dev/hda5 will be mounted at /media or someplace, right?02:30
h0sl3rok thanks02:30
lastnodecarthik, it mounts to /media/hda502:30
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lastnodebut it doesnt show up as an icon02:30
bushkubuntu kicked serious but getting alsa installed and configured.02:30
tepus6do i have to restart gnome for the new xorg settings to work?02:30
carthikokay, so it wont appear in computer://02:30
grodiussorry i meant should i DL the source or a pack?02:30
tepus6if so how?02:30
reikiripgut: look in your /etc/fstab file ... do you have a line that looks like this:  /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       002:30
ripgutwow just not being able to access something as simple as a floppy drive is just , well discouraging,02:30
carthiklastnode, it will be at /media/hda5 ...02:30
ripgutok02:30
lastnodecarthik, yeah i can access it from the shell. i mean it wont show up as a graphical widget02:31
lastnodeicon, whatever02:31
apokryphosgrodius: you can get it from Synaptic.02:31
lastnodein places - > computer02:31
ripguti dont even have an fstab file in /etc/02:31
ripgut:|02:31
lastnodecd rom, floppy and filesystem show up02:31
lastnodeapokryphos, mornin :)02:31
tepus6how do i restart the gui/02:31
lastnodewell evening i guess, for you guys02:31
paulproteustepus6: Just log out, then log back in.02:31
tepus6thatnks02:31
reikiripgut: yes ... you do02:31
snausagestepus6, killall gnome-panel02:31
ripgutno i dont bro02:32
snausageswell, too late02:32
ripguttrust me02:32
ripgutits not in here02:32
grodiusApokryphos: im really sorry im new to linux exactly how do I do that02:32
lastnoderipgut, do sudo vi /etc/fstab02:32
louis_how do i extract properly?02:32
lastnodeor sudo gedit vi /etc/fstab02:32
lastnodeif you want the graphical editor (which'l prolly be easier)02:32
ripgutok, its listed in there02:32
apokryphosgrodius: check this:02:32
apokryphos!synaptic02:32
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto02:32
ds[de] louis_ extract what?02:32
grodius!synaptic02:32
louis_ok02:33
louis_i download my printers software pack02:33
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louis_and it has like madd things02:33
louis_what do I do from there02:33
carthiklastnode it will -- do a nautilus /media/hda5/02:33
thrushwhoohoo got job at sun support HD.  You guys are screwed if you call I know nothing about java02:33
apokryphoslastnode: hi :)02:33
lastnodewhere can i get a list of all the packages at universe, restricted and hoary repos?02:33
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ds[de] what's the filename?02:33
apokryphoslastnode: packages.ubuntu.com02:33
carthiklastnode, or in a terminal cd to that directory and then do a $nautilus .02:33
louis_ok02:34
louis_hold up02:34
lastnodecarthik, do i need to add this to fstab as well02:34
carthiklastnode, no no02:34
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lastnodeso itl work on startup02:34
lastnodeno i mean, it has to do that every startup right02:34
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carthiklastnode yes - if you want to browse to that location, click on the "filesystem" icon in the Computer:// nautilus window -> media -> hda502:35
ripgutok, i can see the fstab file and floppy is listed in it, now what do i do02:35
carthiklastnode, yeah it is mounted just fine, and you can browse to it just fine too02:35
mik3how do i enable sshd on my box so i can ssh in?02:35
thrushapt-get openssh-server? should set everything up02:36
carthikmik3, apt-get install openssh-server02:36
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lastnodecarthik, thanks that worked! :) but it still wont show up under 'computer'02:36
lastnodebut this is minor, thanks for the help02:36
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lastnodebrb, anything directed at me in a query please02:36
carthiklastnode, only the automounted drives will show directly in Computer02:37
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lastnodeelse i might miss it02:37
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thrushmik3: you might think about changing the default port in sshd_config02:37
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odatubuntuhello everyone02:37
cvttest02:37
windexcvt, failed02:37
cvtdo i have a sound card?02:38
ripgutok, anyone?02:38
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odatubuntuwas hoping someone could tell me how to uninstall simcity 3000 unlimited02:38
windexripgut, you want to mount a floppy?02:38
cvtDo i have the correct output plugin selected?02:38
ripgutuhm, yup02:38
louis_help02:38
carthikrigput, sorry but does the floppy drive read the floppy when you insert it?02:38
windexripgut, are you using gnome?02:38
cvtIs another program blocking my soundcard?02:38
louis_is there remote desktop asistance with linux02:38
ripgutim using gnome02:38
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bz0bhey all02:38
windexripgut, places->computer .. floppy 1.02:38
bz0bi am trying to sudo something, and its not allowing me to02:38
cvtwill you help me get full video support now plz kthx?02:39
ripguti know that windex, it wont let me mount it02:39
cvti can't install mplayer because it says i need the cd02:39
windexripgut, hm.02:39
ripgutyea, i know02:39
thrushlouis_: whats the problem?02:39
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ripgutlinux is weird to not be able to support a simple thing as a floppy drive02:40
ripguti mean cmon02:40
louis_ok02:40
bz0bpretty much anything is working02:40
louis_thrush02:40
windexripgut, have you tried sudo mount /media/floppy0 ?02:40
louis_can we one on one02:40
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ripgutyup windex02:40
louis_please so we can get this printer working02:40
louis_plese02:40
windexripgut, what's it say?02:40
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louis_ok02:40
boogsterwhat is better vi or emacs?02:40
glickhi all02:40
louis_I downloaded the cupswrapper02:40
cafuego_ripgut: linux supports floppies just fine. Just not _yours_.02:40
glickexcuse me, when breezy comes out out will it be difficult to upgrade from hoary?02:40
odatubuntuanyone know how to uninstall simcity02:40
louis_for my 210c brother printer02:40
louis_now what do I do02:40
louis_I extract it right02:40
cafuego_ripgut: This impliues something is wrong with _your_ drive or disk.02:40
louis_well ?02:40
glickboogster, go with emacs if you have time to waste learning every command02:40
louis_i do that but I'm missing something here02:41
glickuse vim if you want to learn a few commmands and get work done02:41
boogsterok02:41
windexcafuego, i was getting to that.02:41
windexcafuego, :)02:41
HAMM3RHow can I make mbmon be able to run by a user other than root? I need this so that phpsysinfo can run it to display the stats.02:41
louis_I need support for this02:41
ripgutok, sudo mount /media/floppy0 is asking me to specify a filesystem type02:41
lastnodecan someone link me to a listing of packages available at the repos?02:41
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louis_I go into some rooms and cant register my name02:41
ripgutits a disk with MS word documents on it02:41
ripgutis taht the reason why it wont work02:41
ssdd65ok i ran the new xorg configuration....02:41
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cafuego_ripgutThen run 'sudo mount -t vfat /media/floppy0'02:42
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ssdd65but im gettin alot of messed up text02:42
carthikrigput try sudo mount -t vfat /media/floppy002:42
ssdd65what do i do?02:42
windexripgut, what OS formatted the disk?02:42
ripgutwindows02:42
windexhm.02:42
cafuego_ripgut: If that doesn't work, it's busted.02:42
boogsterrsgw4 GT02:42
glick?02:42
louis_help02:42
glickwill it be an easy upgrade?02:42
windexripgut, i have successfully done what you are trying to do. i am going to guess the disk is messed up.02:42
ripgutim think so also02:42
ripgutaw well02:42
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ripgutthanks for the help guys, really, i appreciate it02:43
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ripgutsorry for sounding like a moron02:43
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ripgutbut its frustrating02:43
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boogsterjust don't stick your dick in the floppy drive, then you'll be a moron02:43
windexripgut, it is, i agree. it should be giving you an error.02:43
transgressokay i got ndiswrapper compiled... but it says error insterting ndiswrapper Invalid module format02:43
ripgutnow to get my Zen Micro working.......................02:43
transgressi just handcompiled it... how can it be the wrong format?02:43
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odatubuntucan anyone help me fix a relocation error?02:44
cafuego_transgress: The versions strings don't match.02:44
transgresscafuego_: eh?  and how can i fix this?02:44
grodiusapokryphos: im inside synaptic and i cant see gtkpod on the list02:44
apokryphos!info gtkpod02:44
ubotugtkpod: (manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod), section universe/sound, is extra. Version: 0.88-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 383 kB, Installed size: 1140 kB02:44
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apokryphosgrodius: you need to enable the universe repository. See this...02:45
cvtgenerally speaking... password complexity isn't that important for me, is it?02:45
apokryphos!repositories02:45
uboturepositories is, like, totally, probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96902:45
cafuego_transgress: Compile it with the right make-kpkg params, so the version strings match.02:45
thrushlouis_: what model is your printer again?02:45
transgresscafuego_: herm okay... i'll do my best02:45
odatubuntusc3u: relocation error: sc3u: symbol _dl_global_scope, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference02:45
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odatubuntuanyone know what i should do to fix this?02:46
cafuego_odatubuntu: What did you install?02:46
louis_brother02:46
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louis_mfc-210c02:46
odatubuntucafuego_ simcity 300002:46
louis_i got the cups wrapper on my desktop!02:46
transgresscafuego_: know of a page so that i can learn a bit about doing that?02:46
louis_what do I do with it now02:46
cafuego_odatubuntu: Okay, that's just not going to run.02:46
louis_thrush can we one on one02:46
cafuego_odatubuntu: Which Ubuntu version you on?02:46
odatubuntucafuego_ breezy02:46
louis_ubuntu02:47
cafuego_odatubuntu: Downgrade to hoary, try again (or try in a hoary chroot).02:47
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thrushlouis_: you want to keep the discussion in here I dont know that much about printers in linux =)02:47
Juulhey, i have a dell d410 laptop and the mouse sensitivity setting in 'mouse preferences' seems to have little or no effect on my nipple mouse02:47
odatubuntucafuego_ why won't it run in breezy?02:47
louis_ok02:47
louis_the folder is on my desktop02:47
louis_do I extract it or what?02:47
ssdd65y do i get garbled text and how can i fix it?02:47
thrushlouis_: what is the full filename?02:48
cafuego_odatubuntu: It can't find the particular libc6 version it requires to run.02:48
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cafuego_odatubuntu: Hoary has a slightly older one, it might work there.02:48
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louis_file:///home/louis/Desktop/cupswrapperMFC210C-1.0.0-1.i386.rpm02:48
odatubuntucafuego_  how do i uninstall then?02:48
thrushlouis_: ok i THINK alien -d filename02:49
louis_ok02:49
louis_whats that?02:49
cafuego_odatubuntu: What, Ubuntu? Don't bother, best bet (for testing anyway) is to run a chroot with hoary stuff in it. The 'debootstrap' package will help you do that easily.02:49
cafuego_!info alien02:49
ubotualien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.50 (hoary), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 288 kB02:49
thrushopen up a terminal and go to your desktop02:49
boogsteris Gentoo much faster than ubuntu? is gentoo not better for non-n00bs?02:50
thrushand type that02:50
louis_ok02:50
carthikboogster, yes, ubuntu no good02:50
thrushlouis_: alien -d whatever02:50
boogsterok02:50
apokryphosboogster: Gentoo is much harder for newbies.02:50
cafuego_boogster: No, gentoo is a lot slower, since you need to wait for stuff to compile before you can run it.02:50
ripgutcan someone pm me and tell me waht this error means and how to fix it02:50
thrushach nm02:50
cafuego_boogster: non-noobs know this and don't bother with Gentoo.02:50
VersedI found ubuntu fairly easy and I am clueless.02:51
Marrukdoes anyone know if mandiriva is any good?02:51
odatubuntucafuego_ i would like to just uninstall it02:51
apokryphosThe old Gentoo joke: "Gentoo are once again the first to package X, and the last to use it"02:51
carthikMarruk never triedit02:51
apokryphos*g*02:51
boogsterbut compiling makes apps go faster,02:51
apokryphosboogster: a myth02:51
ripgutanyone?02:51
thrushlouis_: alien -i filename02:51
boogsterok02:51
VersedI've putz with fedora and suse on an intel system, they were OK, this I put on my g4 450, it installed almost as easy as an OSX install.02:52
carthikboogster, yeah, right that is why ubuntu ships pre-compiled packages -"Compiling makes things go"02:52
glickboogster, what the hell does it matter if the software your running was compiled on your pentium4 or on some other guy's pentium 402:52
glick?02:52
Versedincluding wifi, which I could never get going on other platforms.02:52
glickyour runnin the same damn code02:52
glickif you recompile02:52
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glickjust wastin your damn time02:52
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boogster - it does since i'm using amd6402:52
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glickthey have compiled binaries for amd02:53
carthikboogster, stick to whatever's good for you - quit proselytising02:53
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thrushthen alien -d filename02:53
thrushlouis_: of the deb file it creates02:53
glicki dont know if they have ubuntu 64 out there yet though02:53
boogsteryes but if i compile it in my machine the application will be faster than the binary?02:53
cvtcarthik, is that the right spelling?02:53
ripgutanyone?02:53
bob2boogster: not in general02:53
carthikcvt, autocomplete doesnt work on words, yet ;)02:54
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bob2ripgut: paste the error to #flood02:54
louis_dude ur talking shit to me I dont understand this shit02:54
boogsterso compiling is for homos?02:54
bob2boogster: er, no02:54
ripgutjoin #flood02:54
louis_i'm trying to install and use my fucking printer02:54
louis_i extracted it02:54
bob2boogster: also, please maintain some basic level of maturity, please02:54
transgresslouis_: is that different than a normal printer?02:54
bob2louis_: language, please02:54
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AdmiralSennhey everyone... again02:54
chavoboogster, compiling is for people with clues02:54
glickboogster, compiling is for people that know what the hell their doing, and if you ask "So compiling is for homos?' you dont know what the hell your doin02:55
earthenis there a good program for sync'in a palm02:55
louis_hey bob suck my dick02:55
carthikcvt - it was02:55
boogsterso everyone should use gentoo?02:55
carthikboogster, YES02:55
boogstergentoo is the ricer os02:55
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louis_its a brother 210c02:55
transgressis make-kpkg in apt or something?02:55
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bob2earthen: jpilot is popular02:55
bob2transgress: kernel-package02:55
bob2boogster: no, people "should" use whatever they prefer02:55
apokryphosspeedy irssi ;-)02:56
earthenbob2, can I atp-get it02:56
glickgentoo users think their leet cause they can type 'make' on a commandline and watch all the compiler messages go by02:56
hknezerhey if i want to install breezy badger preview release and want to dual boot winxp and ubuntu on a 160gb hd, what's a good amount of space i should partition for ubuntu? i've already used ~20gb for windows but want to use ubuntu primarily02:56
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glicktheir like "ooooh look at me im compiling"02:56
AdmiralSennanyone have any ideas as to why UT2K4 would run like crap and yet glxgears scores over 2000?02:56
bob2ripgut: you're either installing a binary without it's dependencies, or you didn't update /etc/ld.so.conf to take into account the fact you put libs in an odd place02:56
glick"i must be hardcore"02:56
boogsteris the gentoo installer a real POS?02:56
bob2AdmiralSenn: glxgears output is not a useful indication of anything02:56
bob2boogster: #gentoo02:56
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AdmiralSennk, never mind that then02:56
Gobblahknezer, 6002:56
boogsterok02:57
Gobbla-8002:57
naliothanyone know an Works Out Of the Box usb wifi adaptor ?02:57
Orbyummm is anyone else having problems getting to the ubuntu forums or is it just me ?02:57
hknezerif i accidentally partitioned less than that already02:57
Gobblathats what i would use anyway..02:57
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hknezeris there a way to get that back from the installer02:57
bob2nalioth: negear ma-11102:57
hknezeror do i need an external program02:57
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Gobblajust repartionate it..02:57
bob2hknezer: you can go back, or just start over02:57
cafuego_bob2: that a prism54 in all incarnations?02:57
ripgutok, bob2 i have a creative zen micro, and i know i need gnomad2, but it dont work with this particualr creative player, how do i get it to work, since i know it supports all other crative players.02:57
bob2cafuego_: prism2_usb, afaik02:57
AdmiralSennanyway, the sound in ut2k4 is great, no chops, but the menus are horribly slow and the maps take forever to load - so long that I gave up and shut it down02:57
bob2ripgut: you learn how to hack C and fix it02:58
cafuego_ah ok, so not 802.11g02:58
bob2cafuego_: right02:58
bob2cafuego_: it's only usb 1.0, anyway ;)02:58
ripgutuhm, english please? :P02:58
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bob2ripgut: do you know how to program C?02:58
hknezerbecause now in windows, c:\ is only like 40gb with ~120gb unallocated02:58
ripgutno02:58
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naliothbob2: ty02:58
ripguti dont know any programmin02:58
bob2ripgut: then it's unlikely you can add support yourself02:58
!lilo:*! Of possible interest to politics enthusiasts: the U.S. President, George W. Bush, is apparently giving an address in about 5 minutes. For those who may be interested in following it, feel free to stop by ##bush .... try not to heckle each other, kay? :)02:58
hknezerso you're saying i can just start over02:58
hknezerand repartition it?02:58
bob2ripgut: you can email the author or their user mailing list and ask02:58
ripgutso basically im screwed02:58
bob2hknezer: yes02:58
lastnodewhen breezy becomes stable, i can just auto get the update right?02:58
cafuego_lastnode: yes02:59
hknezercool, i'll try that, thanks!02:59
bob2lastnode: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes02:59
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Orbyummm is anyone else having problems getting to the ubuntu forums or is it just me ?02:59
lastnodethanks02:59
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AdmiralSennOrby: I am too02:59
AdmiralSennsuddenly just stopped02:59
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Orbyyea02:59
Orbyglad it isnt just me then :)02:59
BlueEagleHehe. 267 packages needing upgrade after installing breezy from the preview disc. :)02:59
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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu:bob2] : Official Ubuntu Help channel | Documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation | Use paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting | Breezy preview is out (final release Oct. 13): http://tinyurl.com/73wry | Channel logs: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ | General chatter: #ubuntu-offtopic | Found a bug? report it: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ | Upgrading to breezy? wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
VersusGodanyone get cdemu installed in hoary?03:00
flodinedoes breezy have 2 disc03:00
apokryphosflodine: no, one install cd.03:00
BlueEagleflodine: You've got one live-cd and one install-cd.03:00
bob2VersusGod: that doesn't appear to be in ubuntu; what is it?03:00
rogerioWhen Ubuntu 5.10 will be avaliable for ship?03:00
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flodineis it ready to install03:00
BlueEagleflodine: the live-cd is linux that run off a CD, the install-cd, well you can probably gues.s03:00
lastnodewhen i do sudo vi /etc/init.d03:01
lastnodevi tells me the file is unmodifiable03:01
lastnode?03:01
bob2rogerio: a few weeks03:01
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bob2lastnode: that's a directory03:01
VersusGodCDemu is a kernel module for Linux. It is designed to simulate a CD drive + CD with just simple cue/bin files03:01
BlueEagleflodine: I just installed it. Had some issues with the keyboard, but nothing serious. It's not flawless. Especially not with norwegian (bokmaal) locale.03:01
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thewayofzenif i wanna switch my gnome splash screen..03:01
AdmiralSennbah03:01
thewayofzenwhere do i find it..03:01
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bob2flodine: do you care about nvidia binary drivers?03:01
thewayofzenforums are down sorry :(03:01
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AdmiralSennI had trouble getting cdemu to work for some reason03:01
s4f3_m0d3what is the link to ubuntu guide for ppc linux?03:01
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lastnodebob2, how do i edit the startup commands?03:01
lastnodei want to comment out the searching for dhcp stage03:01
flodinelast time i tried it wouldnt load a bootloader03:01
BlueEagles4f3_m0d3: is there one?03:02
bob2s4f3_m0d3: ubuntuguide.org, it's really not very arcihtecture-specific03:02
bob2lastnode: that's not how you do that03:02
bob2lastnode: whether or not to use dhcp is configured in /etc/network/interfaces03:02
bob2flodine: please file a bug then03:02
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s4f3_m0d3bob2, it used to have a link to a ppc version and an amd64 version03:02
bob2AdmiralSenn: by not just use bchunk?03:02
AdmiralSennbob2: I did03:02
AdmiralSennworked like a charm03:02
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lastnodebob2, i _need_ dhcp but dont want ubuntu to look for it at startup03:02
bob2thewayofzen: the first hit for "ubuntu gnome splash screen change" explains how03:02
qmanmanthewayofzen: /usr/share/pixmaps/splash03:02
bob2lastnode: ...then remove the auto blah line03:03
thewayofzenqmanman, thanks.03:03
thewayofzenbob2,  perfect.03:03
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boogsterthe guys at #gentoo say that ubuntu is for n00bs03:03
rogeriobob2, because i requested one cd few weeks back and i have no news about my request right now...03:03
thewayofzenbob2,  it would be nice if the forums were connecting though03:03
tepus6anyone ever get a savage 2000 workin with 3d acceleration?03:03
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BlueEagleboogster: ...so?03:03
AdmiralSennboogster: that's because it actually works03:03
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othernoobboogster: it is for noobs..03:03
tepus6or anycard with 3d for that matter?03:03
thewayofzenthats why i asked.03:03
bob2boogster: I'm not sure what their clueless opinion is actually worth03:03
othernoobAdmiralSenn: gentoo works as well03:04
AdmiralSennnaturally others think of it as a newbie distro because you don't have to be a 1337 h4x0r to get stuff working...03:04
bob2tepus6: savage is harder because the drivers seem to be break03:04
AdmiralSennwell03:04
BlueEagleboogster: We here at #ubuntu sais gentoo is for wannabe hax0rs.03:04
AdmiralSennthat's true03:04
bob2tepus6: lots of people happily use nvidia, ati or intel cards fine03:04
qmanmananyone having issues with the latest breezy updates?03:04
tlapasoRight -- If I may jump in -- I am very happy w/Ubuntu so for. It, along with SuSE seem to be the best for use noobs...03:04
lastnodebob2, in /etc/network/interfaces? thanks. but what if i want to mess with my startup procedure03:04
lastnodewhat do i edit?03:04
bob2rogerio: I'd wait a few more weeks03:04
bob2lastnode: you need to be a lot more specific03:04
AdmiralSennbut I see a lot of gentoo users going 'Hah, I just compile EVERYTHING and it works'03:04
bob2qmanman: lots of people; if you have issues, please report bugs03:04
cafuego_boogster: the problem with people that sue gentoo, is that BECAUSE they chose gentoo and sue it, their opinion on ANYTHING doesn't count.03:04
bob2thewayofzen: ok03:04
Orbyheh i come from gentoo to ubuntu cos i hated waiting for things to install! some simple update of nvidia drivers would require me to recompile me kernel! sod that ubuntu all the way :D03:04
VersusGodwhen I use bchunk to convert the .cue/bin to a .iso, it doesn't mount properly03:04
tepus6so should i not bother tryin it with 3d?03:04
cafuego_boogster: See http://www.funroll-loops.org/ for more info.03:04
tlapasoGuess what, all the entoo users were at one time noobs too.03:05
AdmiralSennVersusGod: uh oh03:05
tepus6(i do have driver issues)03:05
bob2tepus6: it might be worth it, but it will be fiddly03:05
VersusGodits a kvcd03:05
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AdmiralSennoh03:05
BlueEagleboogster: Tell you one thing. Ubuntu is just as customizable as gentoo is. It's just that gentoo forces you to do that tedious customization while ubuntu has got sensible (well, somewhat sensible) defaults.03:05
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AdmiralSenna vcd... dunno if bchunk is supposed to handle that03:05
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BlueEagleadmiralsenn: ut2400?03:05
AdmiralSenn200403:05
cvti need distros to start installing full video capabilities by default.03:06
naliothbob2: so i can buy one of those ma-111s, stick it in my ibook and get on the net?03:06
cvtare we not in the year 2005?03:06
bob2AdmiralSenn: what would "mounting a vcd" mean, anyway? it doesn't have any files in it.03:06
AdmiralSennbob2: good point03:06
bob2nalioth: with a bit of fiddling, yes03:06
tlapasoOne question, if I may: During the installation process I was not asked to supply a root password. Well, now I need it an I do not know the root password. Is there a standard Ubuntu root password??03:06
bob2AdmiralSenn: if you want o play it, use mplayer03:06
AdmiralSennwait03:06
bob2tlapaso: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:06
AdmiralSennI don't want to play it03:06
lastnodebob2, cant i edit /etc/init.d ? I swear i edited something like that yesterday. someone in this channel said to..03:06
bob2tlapaso: the installer explaiend that to you, and it's in the faq03:06
VersusGodmplayer wont touch it03:06
apokryphosubotu: tell tlapaso about root03:06
AdmiralSennI don't have a kvcd03:06
naliothbob2: i'm asking for a new user. would like an ootb solution03:07
bob2lastnode: no, it's a directory03:07
paulproteuscvt: Problem is, much video stuff is non-free.03:07
BlueEagletlapaso: sudo03:07
othernoobVersusGod: vlc will play the bin for sure, besides that, just burn it with k3b03:07
paulproteusLike MP3 decoding (grr).03:07
bob2nalioth: then no, I'm not aware of any usb devices that actually work out of the box03:07
BlueEagletlapaso: Got me the first time around too. :)03:07
odatubuntucan anyone help me solve this error?03:07
cvtpaulproteus, if that has to do with the law, then i think we should break it.03:07
odatubuntusc3u: relocation error: sc3u: symbol _dl_global_scope, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference03:07
paulproteuscvt: Problem is, Canonical Incorporated can't break the law.03:07
tepus6how do i make a attempt at settin up 3d?03:07
hknezerok, so i'm in partition disks now03:07
bob2odatubuntu: why runnning what?03:07
tlapasoI see!! TY!!03:07
cvtthe law needs to be replaced.03:07
tepus6(my drivers are installed)03:07
paulproteuscvt: MEPIS ships with a lot of this stuff by default, but not usually legally.03:07
hknezerand i see #1 primary 49.3 fat16 /media/sda103:07
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BlueEaglecvt: Tell that to the lawyers. :)03:07
hknezer#2 primary 40.0 gb ntfs /media/sda203:08
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bob2tepus6: not aware of any ubuntu documentation for savage; what did google say?03:08
hknezerpri/log 116.7 gb free space03:08
hknezerhow do i get that free space back into #203:08
paulproteuscvt: It's not "law" that needs to be replaced, it's the use of formats that are illegal to distribute decoders for.03:08
paulproteuscvt: Unless you want to destroy patents entirely.03:08
VersusGodalright thanks guys03:08
bob2nalioth: it requires using linux-wlan-ng user tools, which are not really integrated into anything else03:08
s4f3_m0d3how do i enable dma on a macintosh?03:08
odatubuntubob2 hey man whats up03:08
paulproteuscvt: Software patents are actually pretty much open-shut bad, actually, and they don't have them in Europe.03:08
s4f3_m0d3i need to enable dma on the dvd drive03:08
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odatubuntubob2: i am trying to play simcity 300003:08
bob2s4f3_m0d3: hdparm, generally03:08
s4f3_m0d3a macintosh running ubuntu, but still03:08
naliothbob2: more info: i need an ootb solution for ppc03:09
paulproteuss4f3_m0d3: What /dev/hdX is it?  Just do "hdparm -d1 /dev/hdX"03:09
bob2nalioth: then you're boned03:09
s4f3_m0d3bob2, can you tell me what to type? i don't want to break it?03:09
bob2nalioth: (afaik)03:09
odatubuntubob2: apparently this is all over google but i can't find and /or decipher a fix03:09
BlueEaglepaulproteus: Isn't all mac drives sdX?03:09
AdmiralSennis there a ut2k4 chan on freenode?03:09
BlueEagle:p03:09
bob2odatubuntu: unlikely to be fixable03:09
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paulproteusBlueEagle: Not since 1999.03:09
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naliothbob2: ty03:09
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bob2odatubuntu: unless you run sim city in a woody chroot (that's what I did with loki's alpha centauri)03:09
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bob2nalioth: unless it's an older laptop and yo ucan get a normal airport for it03:10
transgressso it seems breezy hates ndiswrapper03:10
odatubuntubob2: is that a pain?03:10
bob2odatubuntu: not too bad03:10
bob2transgress: please file bugs!03:10
hknezeranybody?03:10
bob2odatubuntu: but not simple, either03:10
transgressbob2: yeah sure thing... where at?03:10
naliothbob2: unfortunatly it's not03:10
bob2transgress: bugzilla.ubuntu.com03:10
h0sl3rVMware is asking for the C headers to my kernel. I downloaded my kernel source with synaptic and later extracted and made a symolic link to /usr/src/linux. Where are the C headers located?03:10
odatubuntubob2: hmmm i would rather just uninstall how do i do that?03:10
lihaileirc://irc.freenode.net#ubuntu03:10
bob2h0sl3r: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)03:10
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bob2h0sl3r: the kernel source is of no use in this case03:11
h0sl3rbob2: i think i allready did that too, but where are they?03:11
bob2odatubuntu: it has no instructions? I'm pretty sure loki has an installer03:11
bob2h0sl3r: /usr/src/03:11
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bob2odatubuntu: uninstaller, that is03:11
enchanterHow to create blog and wiki?03:11
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bob2hknezer: you want to make the windows partition 160GB?03:11
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bob2enchanter: www.blogger.com03:11
h0sl3rbob2: ok thanks03:11
odatubuntubob2: yea i saw it in the directory of simcity but i'm not sure how to execute it03:11
transgressbob2: can i file a bug report for something that isn't an actual package?  i was compiling from a) the ndiswrapper-source package... which failed... then i compiled from source, and it tells me it cannot insert, but after two compilations i'm sure i got the stuff correct.03:11
hknezerbob2: not really03:11
bob2odatubuntu: ./blah03:11
carthikenchanter get on livejournal03:12
bob2hknezer: then what are yo ureally trying to do?03:12
hknezerbut i want to have 60gb for ubuntu03:12
hknezerand the rest for windows03:12
hknezeras was suggested, correct?03:12
odatubuntubob2: in the same directory as simcity?03:12
bob2transgress: if the pre-built ubuntu ndiswrapper module doesn't work, do file a bug03:12
hknezerthe problem is, i don't really know what i'm doing -- which is obvious03:12
enchanterthanks. but I hope to create a server on my computer03:12
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bob2enchanter: then install apache2, moin and whatever weblog software you like03:12
bob2hknezer: which part is confusing you?03:13
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hknezerwell, i move the cursor/highlighted row to pri/log03:13
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enchanterbob2, I just hope to know the whatever weblog software is on ubuntu03:13
bob2enchanter: there's dozens03:13
hknezerand i can create a new partition03:13
apokryphosenchanter: blosxom is good03:13
hknezerright?03:13
carthikenchanter an older version of wordpress is in universe03:13
bob2hknezer: when selecting the feee space, yes03:13
hknezerbut i don't see how to merge that with #203:13
hknezerisn't that what i want to do?03:13
cvthow were you all able to get audio support?03:13
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odatubuntubob2: i don't get anything using ./blah03:13
enchanterthanks a lot03:13
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carthikenchanter, use synaptic and search in "description"03:14
bob2hknezer: you need to be more specific about this merging business03:14
hknezerok03:14
hknezerin the beginning03:14
hknezerall 160gb or so03:14
bob2cvt: if sound does not work for you out of the box, file a bug03:14
hknezerwas for windows03:14
bob2hknezer: ideally on one line...03:14
odatubuntubob2: lolol god i'm an idiot sometimes03:14
odatubuntugeeez03:14
hknezersure sorry.  i accidentally partitioned off 116 for free space, but now i want 60 for ubuntu and the remaining 100 for windows. i don't know how to get from where i am now, to what i want. does that make sense?03:14
odatubuntui got it03:14
fevelhi...i have two sound cards, i would like to configure my pci sound card as default instead of the onboard03:15
feveli know there are threads in the forum03:15
fevelbut im getting connection refused03:15
fevelcan someone help me03:15
bob2hknezer: select the free space, make a 60gb ubuntu partition, tell it to put it at the end03:15
bob2fevel: disable it in the bios03:15
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fevelok03:16
fevelill try03:16
hknezerbob2: ok, going to make a 60gb logical partition03:16
fevelb back soon ;)03:16
benplautis there any way to make 'login flags03:16
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benplaut*more coming03:16
h0sl3rbob2: now vmware is looking for a linux subdirectory with version.h. The C headers I just downloaded doesnt have it.03:16
bob2h0sl3r: yes, it does, I built the vmware modules yesterday03:16
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hknezerbob2: so now i have 56.7 gb of free space...is there a way to give that back to windows?03:16
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bob2h0sl3r: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-686/include/linux/version.h03:17
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cvthow do i start apps again in the terminal?03:17
odatubuntubob2: thanx man03:17
benplautis there any way to make 'login flags' so that i can choose, for instance, a 'school' mode where gaim and skype doesn' come up, or a home mode, where all my forums open up, etc?03:17
cvtstart gtypist?03:17
bob2cvt: type their name...03:17
h0sl3rok03:17
bob2benplaut: you can make different login accounts03:18
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ubuntu_hehe03:18
h0sl3rbob2: yeah forgot the include subdirectory when typing03:18
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benplautbob2: without going that far... i still want the same settings and /home/files...03:19
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teasick:D03:19
teasickhi everybody~!03:19
bob2benplaut: then probably not, at least in the way you're thinking03:19
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cvtout of the box how should i be able to play an mp3?03:19
cvttotem?03:20
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cvtbecause none of my players are handling my mp3.03:20
bob2cvt: nope03:20
nalioth!tell cvt about restricted03:20
transgressgonna have to install either hoary or fedora on the lappy... gotta have ndiswrapper working...03:20
bob2cvt: this is in the FAQ, of course; wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats03:20
naliothcvt: read what ubotu has sent you03:20
bob2transgress: breezy's built in ndiswrapper did not work?03:20
benplautbob2: i think i can do it with sessions... bored2k in #ubuntuforums thinks so... :P03:20
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transgressbob2: there isn't a package for it in amd6403:20
bob2they have their own channel?03:21
bob2bleh03:21
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windexhas anyone used parted to resize ntfs?03:21
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bob2transgress: ndiswrapper-source03:21
transgressbob2: doesn't compile.03:21
[Spooky] cvt: what ubuntu do you have ? i have hoary 5.04 and uses the add/remove programs and add xmms and can play mp3s...03:21
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h0sl3rbob2: which is a good windows to use for just being able to run windows apps?03:21
cvti don't know, they just mailed it to me 4 months ago.03:22
naliothh0sl3r: if you run wine, win9x is the best for the dlls and such03:22
bur[n] errobzon: u still there by chance?03:22
naliothh0sl3r: i dont recommend you run windows03:22
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hknezerbob2: am i missing something conceptually here03:22
h0sl3rnalioth: wine doesnt work for everything i need. I got vmware, and yeah i was thinking 9x too.03:23
transgressbob2: for ndiswrapper-source would i just apt-get -b source ndiswrapper-source or do i need to do something else?03:23
bur[n] ervmware as slow as kqemu?03:23
bob2transgress: no, it's a package, install it normally, then look in /usr/src/03:23
naliothh0sl3r: if you must give in to selfabuse, use win98se03:23
bob2hknezer: ok03:23
transgressbob2: k03:23
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transgressgot a big update running now... let it finish and i'll go for it03:23
NalosHey I got a quick question, whats a good prog for playing mp3/mpeg and streaming media...03:24
bur[n] erNalos: rhythmbox/beep-media-player03:24
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apokryphosubotu: tell Nalos about players03:25
saik0and banshee on breezy =)03:25
cvti've read that link a dozen times03:25
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h0sl3ranyone in here use vmware?03:26
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cvti think this is where  we part ways since we mutually can't help each other.03:26
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cvtgoodbye and goodluck.03:26
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saik0!tell h0sl3r about ask03:26
concept10Is the Eclipse IDE available for Hoary?03:26
bob2concept10: yes03:27
SQL_Samhello everyone, I'm a newb.  Can someone tell me how I refresh the KDE desktop?03:27
cafuego_try hitting F503:27
bob2SQL_Sam: try #kubuntu03:27
concept10bob2: what should I fetch?03:27
naliothSQL_Sam: log out and back in03:27
othernoobSQL_Sam: right click on it and select "Refresh Desktop" perhaps?03:28
SQL_Samlog out?  this is linux not M$03:28
bob2concept10: the massive eclipse tarball from their website03:28
bob2concept10: and the jdk from sun's website03:28
SQL_Samyes thanks the right click had refresh - thanks03:28
othernoobno prob03:29
concept10bob2: okay, thanks.03:29
apokryphosSQL_Sam: right-click -> refresh desktop03:29
concept10I want to learn how about AJAX, I need a good IDE for that (maybe?)03:29
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darkhearthttp://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=100105471903:29
SQL_Samhas anyone used limewire?03:30
darkheartSorry, wrong channel.03:30
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othernoobisn't limewire obsolote regarding p2p..03:30
apokryphosSQL_Sam: several. A slightly more lightweight Gnutella p2p app is gtk-gnutella03:30
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apokryphosothernoob: not at all03:30
bimbericoncept10: some more eclipse info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE03:30
SQL_SamI'm not sure what is good regarding p2p... that's why I asked03:30
lihailehello03:30
hknezerbob2: so what am i missing here, or do you not know? if not, it's cool i'll keep poking around03:30
lihailei have a problem03:31
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bob2concept10: that's pretty un-IDE-specific03:31
bob2concept10: it's way more to do with what toolkit you're using03:31
apokryphosSQL_Sam: anything on the Gnutella network is good. Limewire is a Java app though that can be CPU Intensive. Still, it's more aesthetically pleasing than gtk-gnutella.03:31
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othernoobapokryphos: i've disliked limewire even when it came out ;)03:31
apokryphosSQL_Sam: it's worth trying out both.03:31
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bob2hknezer: I don't know what bit is confusing you03:31
bob2hknezer: select the free space, make the 60gb partition, put it at the end03:31
ProdegyXCan someone please explain to me how to install Tar.gz files03:31
concept10bob2: yeah, I understand that.03:31
SQL_Samgtk-gnutella?  are there directions on how to install on the net?03:31
hknezerbob2: i did03:31
ProdegyXso I can run Linux 2.0603:31
bob2ProdegyX: what are you trying to install?03:31
hknezerbob2: but now i want to give the rest back to windows03:31
reikiam I strange cause I kinda like the default Ubuntu theme? :)03:31
cafuego_Linux 2.06?03:31
ProdegyXFirefox Web Browser03:31
bob2ProdegyX: theres no such thing as "Linux 2.06"03:31
ProdegyXoff there Site03:32
bob2ProdegyX: you already have firefox installed03:32
ProdegyX1.0.6 Sorry03:32
cafuego_ProdegyX: Firefox, you mean?03:32
ProdegyXYes03:32
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bob2hknezer: select the windows partition and see if there is a resize option03:32
apokryphosSQL_Sam: it's in the repositories. You can use synaptic.03:32
SQL_Samsweet!03:32
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concept10bimberi: thanks.03:32
othernoobapokryphos: which p2p prog would you recommend?03:32
SQL_Samapt-get gtk-gnutella?03:32
cafuego_ProdegyX: Why reason the security updates are not sufficient?03:32
apokryphosothernoob: sure, but it's by no means obsolete. It's easily the most popular p2p client on the gnutella network03:32
bimbericoncept10: yw :)03:32
cafuego_s/Why/Any/03:32
AdmiralSennmild update for anyone who cares - ut2k4 suddenly started working as if it was powered by Jesus on speed03:32
ProdegyXI know I have firefox installed, But it says I need to upgrade to change themes and such03:32
AdmiralSennthank you for your time03:32
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apokryphosothernoob: for music -> limewire or gtk-gnutella, but they're both *far* from ideal (for me). For torrents, I use KTorrent these days.03:33
othernoobapokryphos: mmh, the gnutella network isn't that great imho..03:33
bob2ProdegyX: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto, just update it03:33
apokryphosit's pretty huge, and mp3-wise it's quite excellent.03:33
bimberiSQL_Sam: sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella (once the universe repository is enabled)03:33
cafuego_!dict scepticism03:33
SQL_Samthanks03:33
othernoobapokryphos: mmh, i would have guessed you'd say IRC ;)03:33
ubotuDictionary 'scepticism' the disbelief in any claims of ultimate knowledge03:33
ProdegyXhttp:// wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto03:33
hknezerbob2: also how much swap space do you recommend03:33
feae2x ram?03:34
SQL_Samdont mean to be dumb, but what is meant by torrent?03:34
apokryphosothernoob: I tend to use torrents more these days, but IRC too sometimes. IRC often has queues -> annoying.03:34
Juuli'm have a dell laptop with a touchpad and a "track stick". for some reason the sensitivity on the track stick doesn't adjust when i change it in mouse preferences. any ideas?03:34
othernoobSQL_Sam: bittorrent...03:34
cafuego_feae: No. That rule only applies to old 2.4 kernels (and even older ones)03:34
hknezerSQL_Sam: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent03:34
apokryphosSQL_Sam: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html03:34
cafuego_feae: How much ram you got?03:34
feae51203:34
ProdegyXThats not working the lin03:34
othernoobapokryphos: true, the queues are annoying, but the goods are faster on irc than on torrent ;)03:34
cafuego_feae: then 256-512Mb swap should see you sorted.03:35
apokryphosothernoob: often, but not always.03:35
feaei got 1.6g swap03:35
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cafuego_feae: well, that won't hurt either :-)03:35
feaelol03:35
bob2hknezer: how much ram do you have?03:35
feaer u talking 2 me privately03:35
SQL_Samwht is the definiton of a torent?03:35
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othernoobapokryphos: i didn't mean download speed. :)03:35
bob2ProdegyX: it will work if yo utype it in correctly03:35
apokryphosSQL_Sam: check those links.03:35
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lihailemy ubuntu can't update now03:35
guest_hi03:35
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guest_kinsa ka03:36
SQL_Samk03:36
feaecan sum1 help with my mass storage device?03:36
apokryphosothernoob: you mean they come out faster on IRC?03:36
hknezerbob2: 51203:36
bob2feae: please try to use english03:36
guest_hi03:36
bob2hknezer: 1GB is plenty03:36
othernoobSQL_Sam: you sure you really want to use a p2p program? you don't seem to know much03:36
othernoobapokryphos: yea03:36
apokryphosothernoob: I was just about to say the opposite :P03:36
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apokryphosguerby: please do not flood03:36
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feae?03:36
othernoobapokryphos: depends on the irc channel/server ;)03:36
lihaileis any chinese here03:36
darkheartlol03:36
darkheartI'm glad I was here to see that.03:36
apokryphosothernoob: of course03:36
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darkheart!ch03:36
ubotudarkheart: I don't know, could you explain it?03:36
Joxeranyone know how i can get "the username" to show in the motd ? like "Hello "yourusername" ?03:37
lihailewho from china03:37
feaeme03:37
lihaileyes03:37
juan_alguien en castellan+03:37
cafuego_darkheart: switzerland03:37
othernoobapokryphos: but i tend to use torrent more often than irc as well.03:37
cafuego_!es03:37
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:37
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bob2english, Folks03:37
lihailecan u know chinese03:37
juan_ok03:37
apokryphosothernoob: azureus?03:37
feaeno03:37
juan_thank03:37
othernoobapokryphos: yea03:37
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feaenot really03:37
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apokryphosothernoob: brings my comp to its knees with 4/5+ torrents 8_03:38
othernoobapokryphos: never felt comfortable with other torrent clients.03:38
SQL_Sami gotta make an id10t file.....03:38
=== sportman|food wants to know if there is a good debian repository
sportman|foodto add03:38
othernoobapokryphos: really?03:38
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cafuego_sportman|food: Not for Ubuntu, no.03:38
apokryphosothernoob: it's easily the most featureful03:38
bob2sportman: to install what?03:38
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apokryphosothernoob: yes; well, with a few seeding as well.03:38
cafuego_sportman: if you wanted one for Debian, try #debian03:38
sportmanmplayer03:38
sportmanwell03:38
bob2sportman: mplayer is in ubuntu03:38
sportmantis?03:38
bob2sportman: please read the FAQ03:39
cafuego_mplayer is packaged in 'multiverse' afaik.03:39
othernoobapokryphos: i tend to have it running several days before i reboot to play some windows games and no problems..03:39
darkheartcafuego_ Switzerland?03:39
sportmanahh, but i cant ever get it in synaptic?03:39
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cafuego_darkheart: .ch is switzerland, yes.03:39
bimberiubotu tell sportman about mplayer03:39
bob2sportman: then you've misconfigured apt03:39
apokryphosothernoob: It's not a bad app, I do like it, and it has many htings over ktorrent; ktorrent is embryonic, considering its age. :)03:39
sportman..?03:39
sportmanhow it works i ran a full system update03:39
sportmanfrom it03:40
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darkheartcafuego_ No kidding...what's china then?03:40
bob2sportman: yadaydayada, wiki.ubuntu.com/Repositories03:40
sportmanohh maybee the repositiories are just turned off03:40
sportmanlol03:40
bob2cafuego_: cn03:40
bob2bah03:40
cafuego_darkheart: depends on which bit you mean. Normally .cn, but these days .hk as well.03:40
cafuego_darkheart: If you're wodnering why .ch, the local name is "SomethingwithC Helvetica"03:41
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othernoobapokryphos: i may take a look at ktorrent.03:41
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apokryphosothernoob: it's worth a try out; there's an Ubuntu repo with it, not sure what version it has though.03:42
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apokryphosubotu: tell othernoob about ktorrent03:42
sportmanubotu: tell sportman about cedega03:42
steven_Laptop? how do I stop Time synchronizing with server at boot up.....03:43
darkheartcafuego_ Sorry, I didn't understand the Helvetica comment.03:43
bob2steven_Laptop: sudo rm /etc/rcS.d/S*ntp*03:43
cafuego_darkheart: the local swiss name for switzserland is "Something Helvetica" - where something starts with C.03:43
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GwtekmanMy kernal just upgraded and now only screen resolution is 640x480, how do I get my other choices to show up in the preference menu?03:43
drfunkanyone know a good site about ndiswrapper - I have searched google/linux and im still lost as to why it installs fine with ubuntu and the drivers go in fine but it still doesnt light up or work on my pavilion ZD700003:43
sportmanubot: tell sportman about gnome03:43
cafuego_darkheart: hence .ch03:43
steven_Laptopbob2, then it only use system time correct?03:44
othernoobapokryphos: thanks. i'll install it tomorrow and test it with some small torrents03:44
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darkheartcafuego_ Ahhhh gotcha =) Makes sense in a way hehe.03:44
cafuego_Confederatio Helvetica03:44
othernoobapokryphos: have you had ktorrent and azureus running at the same time?03:44
naliothsportman: read what ubotu told you about himself03:44
steven_Laptopthanks03:44
sportmani did03:44
sportmanlol03:44
sportmansorry03:44
apokryphosothernoob: a couple of times, yeah. As of late only had KTorrent really, though.03:45
sportmanlol didnt work03:45
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othernoobapokryphos: any performance problems when both were running?03:45
xubioI've installed Breezy into unused space on my WindozeXP drive.  Tried to add windows partition to /etc/lilo.conf, but when I run liloconfig, I get this error: device-mapper ioctl cmd 12 failed: No such device or address. Any lilo experts around?03:46
othernoobapokryphos: i remember having enormous problems when ed2k and any bittorrent program were running at the same time03:46
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cafuego_xubio: 'sudo rm /dev/dm'; then run 'sudo lilo -v' again03:46
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apokryphosothernoob: it would just be the sum of the intensitivity of each; wouldn't make a particular difference that those two are running together. They don't use the same backend or anything03:47
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transgressokay i'm trying to build the ndiswrapper source package, but it is trying to use gcc-3.4 ... is there a way to fix this?03:47
apokryphosothernoob: kt is lightweight though. Chances are it will be integrated into kget (systray kde download manager), so you can just drag/paste urls into it03:47
GwtekmanI only get choice of 640x480 screenres....how do I get my other choices back?03:47
xubiocafuego_: cool!  For my edification, where are these extra devices coming from?03:47
cafuego_!fixres03:48
ubotuwell, fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:48
Gwtekmanthanks03:48
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cafuego_xubio: Probably some misconfiguration of 'udev'. Annoying, but that cmd fixes it. I assume it'll get fixed for the final release.03:48
othernoobapokryphos: sounds good. :)03:48
xubiothanks03:49
bob2steven_Laptop: indeed03:49
cafuego_xubio: Note, it'll be back after a reboot, so next time you update lilo you'll need to delete /dev/dm again.03:49
sproingiethat X11 font bug in breezy upgrade is lethal.  couldn't even get a fallback console for some reason03:50
Earthenanyone know how to sync palm with jpilot03:50
othernoobnight..03:50
mik3if i wanted to set my linksys router up so when someone ssh'd my ip it would direct to this box?03:51
sportmanhow do i set this up03:51
sportmanlol03:51
sportmanforget it03:51
sportmanhow do i query uboto03:51
Earthenmik3, in your linksys forward the port 22 to your computer IP03:51
sportmanwithout cluttering the channel03:52
sproingiesportman: just chat with it normally.  /query ubotu in just most irc clients will do it03:52
xubiocafuego:  Matters less now that lilo works, but I also tried grub (which I'd prefer, but...)  With that I got further, but got this error: The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.  Any ideas?03:52
bimberisportman: /query ubotu then type the factoid names (eg. "gnome")03:52
naliothsportman: /msg ubotu <factoid> or <help>03:52
sproingiedon't prefix with a ! when you're querying it03:52
drfunkanyone know a good site to figure out why ndiswrapper wont work with my broadcom wireless?  or maybe another program all together or setup or something im going insane here.,,03:52
mik3it's asking for a port range, what do i put? 22 and 22?03:52
sproingiewow, X in breezy is slow as hell to repaint03:52
Earthenyes03:53
mik3udp or tcp?03:53
Earthenmik3, yes03:53
Earthentcp03:53
mik3k03:53
mik3and what about ftp03:53
naliothsproingie: x is in active developement, i think (i get x updates each time i update)03:53
Earthenmik3, are you using a ftp server on your box03:53
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sportmannalioth03:53
sportmanthat didnt work03:53
sportmanlol03:53
mik3Earthen : i have one set up yes03:54
sproingienalioth: i surmise I'm using a debugging build then?03:54
naliothsportman: when ubotu msgs you, just use that window03:54
Earthenmik3, you can ftp using ssh it is alot safer03:54
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mik3sftp?03:54
naliothsproingie: breezy is in debugging stage, yes03:54
naliothmik3: sftp runs thru ssh ports03:54
mik3k03:54
mik3tcp or udp03:55
windexyou can also use scp03:55
Earthenmik3,  if you have ssh working then it is working for ssh also03:55
naliothmik3: yes03:55
sproingienalioth: ok.  just curious whether it was just me or not03:55
mik3which one03:55
mik3both?03:55
windextcp03:55
bimberimik3: tcp03:55
windexssh is a tcp daemon03:55
Earthenmik3,  ftp is work on ssh as well03:55
mik3k03:55
TokenBadin ubuntu using the proftpd how do I allow fxp transfers?03:55
rigelftp? on ssh?03:55
rigelwhat?03:55
windexmik3, filezilla for windows supports sftp, too03:55
lihaile #linuxfans03:56
glickhey how much do you estimate a premium google ad costs?03:56
apokryphosrigel: man ftp03:56
sproingieoh my, it's initializing composite on a machine with an ATI driver, that's probably why03:56
windexglenn, $$.03:56
mik3or you could download sftp03:56
windexerr, glick.03:56
transgressand does anyone have a clue as to why a package is trying to build with gcc-3.4?  i can't find it anywhere in the makefiles, etc... it doesn't have a configure file...03:56
glickwindex, yeah i know it costs money03:56
glicki was wondering for an idea03:56
naliothmik3: download sftp for what? it's build into linux boxes with ssh03:56
glicka rough estimate03:56
rigelwhy would you use ftp over ssh when scp is built into the protocol03:56
rigelinnit?03:56
rigelor the daemon03:57
rigelor the whozawhatsis03:57
naliothrigel: sftp or scp is up to the users preferences03:57
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Earthenrigel, I don;t think he knew about it03:57
kluihello03:57
kluiall03:57
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kluianyone uses have knights installed?03:58
ghostdoghow do i mount windows?03:58
apokryphos!windowsdrives03:58
louriehi03:58
uboturumour has it, windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically03:58
nalioth!tell ghostdog about ntfs03:58
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ghostdogtnx naloith03:59
war-totemanyone know the mutt command to fetchmail?03:59
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Earthencan someone tell me how to configure Jpilot to sync with my palm04:00
bz0bhow do I burn an iso with cdrecord?04:00
bz0bi think i got it04:00
bz0bis it nope04:01
naliothbz0b: easiest way is to use the cdrecord fronted called k3b04:01
bz0bnalioth, does cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc file.iso work?04:02
naliothbz0b: i've never used cdrecord directly04:02
bz0bi see04:02
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AdmiralSennback again04:02
naliothbz0b: "man cdrecord" will tell you04:02
bz0byeah, well do you use gnome or kde?04:02
rendiguy's can help me i'm format my windows and i lost my grub now i can't back to my box04:02
AdmiralSennquick question - how would I make a shortcut that has root priveleges?04:03
naliothbz0b: gnome usually04:03
AdmiralSenntrying to do ut2k4 and it does weird things without using sudo04:03
bz0brendi, where are you from, because your english is sort of bad04:03
bz0brendi, no offense04:03
rendii'm indonesia04:03
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rendisorry my english04:03
bz0bno problem04:03
apokryphosubotu: tell rendi about grub04:03
naliothrendi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows04:03
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rendii ca'nt speak english very well04:03
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rendiok wait i'll look it04:03
bz0bits okay04:03
apokryphosrendi: easily well enough for us to understand, don't worry :)04:04
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AdmiralSennanyone?04:04
TokenBadin ubuntu using the proftpd how do I allow fxp transfers?04:04
bz0bbrb guys04:05
sproingieAdmiralSenn: change the target of the link from <whatever> to gksu <whatever>04:06
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Agrajaggksudo04:06
apokryphossproingie: gksudo04:06
sproingieoops.  indeed04:06
kluirendi: where're you from?04:06
war-totemanyone here use Eterm?04:06
AdmiralSennhmm... no change04:06
AdmiralSennasks for password, then nothing happens04:07
TokenBadis there a script for xchat that will tell what your current bandwidth speed is?04:07
TokenBador a way to tell?04:07
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AdmiralSennbah04:07
factotumwhat should I check when video and sound dont synch, like the sound lags behind?04:08
kluiwhat is cvs?04:08
glickwill it be easy to upgrade from hoary to breezy?04:08
factotumits always been an issue since install, but im getting kind of sick of it04:08
IcemanV9will gnome 2.10 upgrade to 2.12 on hoary eventually???04:08
bimberiubotu tell klui about cvs04:08
bob2IcemanV9: no04:08
bob2of course not04:08
sproingieglick: extremely.  you just change a few lines in sources.list.  i don't recommend it unless you know how to recover from disastrous config errors tho04:08
kluiye tell me04:09
Agrajagno, packages do not change like that in a stable release04:09
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sproingieglick: that is, not until breezy goes live04:09
IcemanV9bob2: why not??04:09
bob2glick: yes04:09
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glickcool04:09
bob2IcemanV9: because!!111104:09
AdmiralSennguys gksudo isn't all I need04:09
kluiplease04:09
bob2IcemanV9: hoary is a stable release. stable = doesn't change04:09
Ashenyo04:09
dabarGood $timeOfDayWhereYouAre04:09
AshenI need some help getting the freaking breezy install iso to work04:09
Ashenit hates me.04:10
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Ashen:p04:10
AdmiralSennoops04:10
sproingiedabar: good localtime()04:10
AdmiralSennso04:10
AshenIt's trying to download the base system for some reason?04:10
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Ashenand then dies when it cant find half of the files it need04:10
Ashens04:10
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Ashenwhy would it be trying to download the base system? -_-'04:11
giardwhat's the easiest way to find the package I need to install if I know the file I'm looking for?04:11
venzenthat's normal04:11
factotumwould it just be a totem issue or a x issue or the nvidia drivers? just dont know what to do about it04:11
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bob2giard: packages.ubuntu.com04:11
AdmiralSenntrying to make a shortcut to ut2k4 on my gnome bar and that requires the use of sudo or an equivalent.. and it's not working04:12
dabargiard: three ways. aptitude, apt-get or synaptic, or even that what bob2 said.04:12
venzenfactotum: it's strange - try googling & search ubuntuforums.org04:12
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IcemanV9bob2: alright, whatever. i still think it should be merged into hoary repos when it is stable. :P04:12
factotummmmph, yeah i have off and on for the last few days, only thing close I found was dma for a dvd drive, thats already enabled04:12
venzenAdmiral: what's ut2k4 do?04:12
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AdmiralSennvenzen: it's a game04:12
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bob2IcemanV9: that would be silly and pointless work04:13
giardbob2: how do I use that?  I'm looking for the package that has the file... "scrnsaver.h"04:13
bob2IcemanV9: that effort would be wasted, when it could go into just making breezy better04:13
AdmiralSennmaybe I can chmod it to be usable by anyone04:13
bob2giard: why are you looking for that?04:13
venzenAdmiral: so what happens when you type ut2k4 in a terminal?04:13
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giardbob2: new beagle04:13
AdmiralSennvenzen: nothing... because it's not a command04:13
giardbob2: nevermind, I see it now... below the fold04:13
venzenAdmiral: what command starts it?04:14
bob2giard: sudo apt-get build-dep beagle04:14
AdmiralSennI have to run sudo /usr/local/games/ut2004/System/ut2004-bin04:14
bob2all done04:14
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venzenAdmiral: hold on...04:14
AdmiralSenner04:14
AdmiralSennwait that doesn't work04:14
AdmiralSennI have to be in the System directory and do sudo ./ut2004-bin04:15
giardbob2: cool command, but didn't pull in everything I need for new version04:15
venzenAdmiral: ok - create a new launcher on desktop and use command: 'gksudo /usr/local/games/ut2004/System/ut2004-bin' then tick the box to run it in a terminal04:16
AdmiralSennvenzen: I did that already04:16
AdmiralSennit doesn't work04:16
venzenwhat happens?04:16
venzennothing eh?04:17
AdmiralSennasks for a pass04:17
AdmiralSennthen nothing04:17
venzengive it?04:17
venzenok04:17
AdmiralSennah04:17
AdmiralSennchild terminated with 127 status04:17
AdmiralSenndidn't see that before04:17
TokenBadis there a script for xchat that will tell what your current bandwidth speed is?04:17
TokenBador a way to tell?04:17
dabarbob2: now that you are here. Do you put . in your path, and if not, point me to good reasons(URL) or tell me about it, please.04:17
bob2no, because it means if I run "ls" in /tmp I could be running some random trojan04:18
bob2which is not going to happen on my laptop, but it's a terrible habit to get into04:18
venzenAdmiral: that's strange.. google & search ubuntuforums.org?04:18
AdmiralSennbah04:19
AdmiralSennI'll just run it in a terminal from memory04:19
venzenAdmiral: yeh, but is it normal to have to run it via sudo?04:20
AdmiralSennthe price I pay for better gameplay performance - no shortcuts04:20
AdmiralSennvenzen: I have no idea04:20
dabarls runs files? oh, you mean, its gonna look there before elsewhere? why not put it in the end of path?04:20
IcemanV9AdmiralSenn: create a script to run UT2k404:20
Ashendamnit04:20
venzenAdmiral - hold on..04:20
AdmiralSennIcemanV9: uhhh and I'm supposed to do this how? I'm not even a n00b programmer04:20
Ashenits my freaking image...04:20
bob2dabar: because I still don't like nasty surprises04:20
KyralUT2k4 wha?04:20
Kyraljust install it to your homedir04:20
dabarbob2: thanks.04:20
AdmiralSenn...04:20
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venzenAdmiral: replace gksudo with sudo - gksudo is a command to create a terminal with root privileges04:21
IcemanV9AdmiralSenn: ah. well.04:21
hknezerbob2: done installing (took a dinner break)...thanks for your help!04:21
bluefoxicyHeeeelp me :(04:21
bluefoxicyI don't know what to tell google to find04:22
venzenwhat's wrong?04:22
louriehi everyone04:22
naliothbluefoxicy: quit whining04:22
AdmiralSennvenzen: nothing happens04:22
bluefoxicyI need to know when the first athlon 64 CPU was available for under $20004:22
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bob2bluefoxicy: #ubuntu-offtopic04:22
Ashenis there a nice way I can repair my downloaded breezy image without having to re-download the whole thing?04:23
bob2rsync04:23
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venzenAdmiral: even with run in terminal ticked?04:23
AdmiralSennyes04:24
venzensh*t04:24
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alumnohello !!04:24
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venzenhi04:24
AdmiralSennwhat's weird is I can't run it from any dir but that one04:24
naliothAshen: use the torrent04:24
AdmiralSennlike I can't type the command in at my home directory04:25
naliothAshen: it will correct any imperfections04:25
vader1102has anyone got rekall installed?04:25
alumnoi'm conecting from chile04:25
venzenAdmiral: ok.. what permissions04:25
venzenon that dir04:25
alumnoany one speak spanish here ?04:25
AdmiralSennit's 775, whatever that means04:25
venzenAdmiral: and what ownership04:26
AdmiralSenndrwxr-xr-x04:26
AdmiralSennowned by root, naturally04:26
alumnosome girl04:26
bimberihi alumno, try #ubuntu-es04:26
venzenAdmiral chmod that directory to 77704:26
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AdmiralSennk04:27
venzenalumno: si, un pocito - por que?04:27
alumnoThanks bimberi04:27
bimberialumno: yw04:27
AdmiralSennand... nothing happens!04:27
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Ashenah04:28
Ashenthx all :)04:28
Ashenall better04:28
Ashen^_^04:28
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venzenAdmiral: damn... I've run out of ideas - post this in the forums and see what replies u get04:28
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alumnoi'm on the class room right now while the teacher is speaking about query's, alias, etc04:28
AdmiralSennwell04:28
AdmiralSennI just chown'd it to my own account04:28
AdmiralSennstill nothing!04:28
AdmiralSennftw04:29
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venzenAdmiral: run it from terminal each time or create a script04:29
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AdmiralSennbut I don't know how to make a script to do this04:30
isymhow do i change my $path of a library04:30
AdmiralSennactually04:30
AdmiralSennI don't know how to make any scripts04:30
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AdmiralSenngrrr04:30
isymwww.suck-o.com04:30
isymthey have tuturoials on scripting04:30
isym:)04:30
nybbleahoy04:31
isymhow do i change my $path of a library04:31
venzenAdmiral: its not difficult, but difficult to explain here04:31
vader1102does anyone know of a good data base program for keeping track of customers and work that I have done?04:31
isymexcel?04:31
venzenwhat?04:31
isymspreadsheets?04:32
isymhow do i change my $path of a library04:32
dabarisym: $path of a library is quite vague, give more detail.04:32
venzenvader: try OpenOffice beta2 - it includes a databasing program04:32
dabarstop repeating, as well.04:32
dabarplease. off course.04:32
vader1102I only have a p2 366 laptop to run it on04:32
war-totemwhen i type fetchmail i get this: fetchmail: background fetchmail at 7991 awakened.04:33
war-totemanyone got a clue?04:33
isymij04:33
isymok04:33
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vader1102or I would use Open Office 2.0\04:33
isymi try to run a program and it tells me cant find this lib04:33
isymso i wanna chec kthe path to see if its right04:33
nybblevader1102: OO2 doesnt seem to require as much, atleast with my tests04:33
nybblevader1102: i run it on a P2 35004:34
dabarisym: and you know the location of the lib?04:34
nybblevader1102: how much ram does the system have?04:34
vader110225604:34
isymtwa04:34
isymyeah04:34
IcemanV9vader1102: you can use OOo2 Calc (spreadsheet); i use it a lot for my budget, job search and whatsnot :)04:34
venzenvader: ok - google for PHP script to track customers/hours AND that uses sqlite - should work on yr hardware04:34
isymthe programs lib is in the saemk directory as the program04:34
isymhehehe04:34
nybblevader1102: yea, it would run it nicely.04:34
vader1102nybble, is it possible to upgrade to 2.0?04:35
nybbleyep04:35
nybbleok,04:35
vader1102nybble, how?04:35
bob2isym: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/lib application04:35
nybble!rep04:35
ubotunybble: I give up, what is it?04:35
bob2isym: but that hints at a deeper problem04:35
nybblehmm... ok04:35
isymwhat you mean??04:35
venzenwar-totem: background fetchmail reawakened - because it is already running - try 'ps aux| grep fetchmail'04:35
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nybblevader1102: you need to make sure you have the other repositories04:36
vader1102I have04:36
nybblevader1102: then run sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org04:36
bob2isym: what application is04:36
vader1102ok04:36
bob2?04:36
nybblevader1102: and then run sudo apt-get install openoffice.org204:36
venzenexactly04:36
war-totemvenzen, ok04:36
nybblevader1102: hold on, i'll get the right line ofr the second04:36
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kjs3So...I'm trying to load Ubuntu on a dual p3, 1.5G ram, lsi logic 1010 controller.  I get "[91.057796]  Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found.  Try passing init= option to kernel." before it hangs.  Anyone seen something like this?  Google does not illuminate that I can see.04:36
isyma gaming one04:36
isymQuakeworld04:36
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isymit has a linux installing part of it but i cant seem 2 run it04:37
bob2isym: then you installed it incorrectly04:37
war-totemvenzen, what am i looking at now?04:37
isymhow would i install it CORRECTLY?04:37
bob2isym: paste the full error to #flood04:37
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isymits just an unzippable tar.04:37
bob2kjs3: sure the cd is ok?04:37
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isymgive me a second04:37
venzenwar: you're looking at all the processes running on yr system04:37
venzentype ps aux04:37
kjs3bob2: 4 writes from 3 downloads from 2 different mirrors.  Nope...dunno if the cd is okay for sure...:-)04:38
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nybblevader1102: ok the second line is: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2 openoffice.org2-calc04:38
venzenwar: you should see fetchmail in that list of processes04:38
war-totemvenzen, ah, ok but fetchmail is supposed to tell me if theirs any mail on the server for me right?04:38
bob2kjs3: did you check the cd itself? ie the md5sum of the data itself?04:38
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kjs3bob2: and I've tried 2 ide cds and one scsi.04:38
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war-totemvenzen, i do see it04:39
venzenwar: yes, but it doesn't tell you unless you use the option -v (verbose)04:39
DaMi3nis there a way to have changing backgrounds in ubuntu-gnome04:39
war-totemvenzen, fetchmail -t 3004:39
war-totemah04:39
Versedright mouse click?04:39
bob2kjs3: but did you chec kthe cd? boot expert and select the "verify cd" or whatever option.04:39
isymi pasted the error04:39
bob2isym: so, that error is pretty self-explantory04:39
bob2isym: go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for that filename04:40
bob2isym: then install the package it's in04:40
war-totemvenzen, does this mean that ive configured something wrong?04:40
venzenwar: you first have to kill the old fetchmail...04:40
venzenwar: no you're fine04:40
kjs3bob2: Didn't md5 it, no.  If I can't download a good one, it's unique to Ubuntu.  I tried to boot expert with the same hang.04:40
AdmiralSennwhoa ho04:40
AdmiralSennfound a script that's supposed to do the same thing04:40
TokenBadhow can tell what bandwidth is?04:40
DaMi3nis there a way to have changing backgrounds in ubuntu-gnome04:40
bob2kjs3: I'm not talking about the iso, I'm talking about the cd you burnt04:40
war-totemvenzen, ive killed it04:41
venzentype kill 123 - or whatever process number it has (1st column04:41
venzen)04:41
isymok04:41
venzengood04:41
evanproDaMi3n, you mean, continuously changing?04:41
isymsorry man new to linux :D04:41
venzenwar: fetchmail -t -v04:41
evanproDaMi3n, if you just want to change the background by hand, right click anywhere there's not a window, and you get the "Change Desktop Background" menu item04:42
kjs3bob2: err...no.  I didn't md5 any of the multiple disks I burned.04:42
war-totemvenzen, -v is not an option04:42
kjs3bob2: from multiple images.04:42
DaMi3nevanpro, i meant cont changin04:42
venzenwar: hold on...04:42
vader1102synaptic is doing it04:42
war-totemvenzen,  ok04:42
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LinuxNewbiehello there is there a way to block a range of ip  in a lan in accessing the internet but they are still connected in the lan?04:43
bob2kjs3: that is the first step04:43
LinuxNewbiehello there is there a way to block a range of ip  in a lan in accessing the internet but they are still connected in the lan?v04:43
bob2LinuxNewbie: please don't repeat04:43
DaMi3nevanpro, something that reads jpegs frm specified directory and randomly picks one as background after a fixed tim interval04:43
bob2LinuxNewbie: that's entirely an issue for your router; is it running ubuntu?04:43
venzenwar: -v is definitely an option - see 'fetchmail --help'04:43
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LinuxNewbieok sorry about that?04:43
venzenwar: maybe try --verbose04:43
LinuxNewbieyes kinda04:43
LinuxNewbieits on a cable modem04:44
evanproDaMi3n, http://sourceforge.net/projects/gdchange/04:44
bob2LinuxNewbie: then talk to whoever made your cable modem04:44
TokenBadhow can tell what bandwidth is?04:44
evanproFirst thing I could find04:44
kjs3bob2: right....so the Debian install I did a few days ago from the same setup from the first download doesn't indicate something else wrong.  I'll jump right on that md5.04:44
bob2TokenBad: you need to be a lot more specific04:44
LinuxNewbieok thnx04:44
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TokenBadI installed proftpd04:44
bob2kjs3: it's probably not it, but it is simple to check and causes probably 8/10 install iseeus04:44
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TokenBadI want to be able to see what speed people are sending and getting from me04:44
war-totemvenzen, i know its an option, but when i type that it tells me its not an option and shows me all the options availible04:44
AdmiralSennhaha!04:45
DaMi3nevanpro, tx a lot04:45
AdmiralSennvenzen: I got it04:45
war-totemvenzen, but fetchmail itself seems to be working04:45
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evanproDaMi3n, I have no idea if it works or not04:45
evanproDaMi3n, but good luck04:45
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bob2TokenBad: not generally possible, but perhaps asking some proftpd group would get you an answer04:45
DaMi3nevanpro, lol ty04:45
venzenAdmiral: deja vu, eh?04:45
AdmiralSennthere's a script in the installation dir called 'ut2004' and running that makes it work04:45
TokenBadthere was a program someone said in before that could do it04:45
TokenBadbut can't remember it04:45
AdmiralSennit searches the system for the path to the game binary04:45
DaMi3nevanpro, there used to be sth similar in red hat04:45
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TokenBadxchat had a script that does it to I think04:45
venzenwar: kill fetchmail and then type 'fetchmail -t --verbose'04:46
war-totemvenzen, will do04:46
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venzenwar: have you edited ~/.fetchmailrc ?04:46
war-totemvenzen, yes04:46
venzenwar: so whats happening now?04:47
war-totemvenzen, same04:47
evanproSo I need a serious clue04:47
venzenAdmiral: can you create a launcher using this script instead?04:47
war-totemvenzen, but fetchmail by itself seems to do the trick04:47
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evanproOn my AMD64 machine with SATA disk drives, I can't boot with 2.6.12 kernels04:48
venzenwar: so are there messages on the server?04:48
kjs3MD5 checks.  It's not the image04:48
evanpro(I guess with the fancy new initramfs stuff)04:48
voidlogicwhat chipset?04:48
war-totemvenzen, correct04:48
evanproI've got root=/dev/sda104:48
evanproAnd I get a kernel panic...04:48
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voidlogicwhat chipset, are you overloaking your RAM?04:48
venzenwar: you should kill fetchmail again, then try 'sudo fetchmail -t -v'04:48
war-totemvenzen,  and i just got a Query status=3 (authfail)04:48
evanprovoidlogic, k8, not overclocking04:49
venzenwar: fetchmail couldn't authenticate to the pop server...04:49
evanprovoidlogic, I think it has more to do with the root device than with the chipset04:49
voidlogicI have an AMD64, it works, i mean chipset, like nvida nforce III or IV?04:49
war-totemvenzen, same thing, just tells me thats not an option then lists them all04:49
evanprovoidlogic, the panic is that the root filesystem isn't found04:49
mik3how do i remove a simbolic link i made with ln?04:49
evanproAnd I get a funny error from DM04:49
evanpromik3, rm04:49
naliothmik3: use "rm"04:50
voidlogicwhat SATA controller are you using?04:50
venzenwar: ok, there must have been a version change... what version are you running?04:50
mik3it won't delete the target?04:50
evanprovoidlogic, one sec04:50
bimberimik3: no04:50
naliothmik3: if you aim it correctly, no04:50
war-totemvenzen, fetchmail release 6.2.504:50
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evanprovoidlogic, VIA VT6420, per HAL device manager04:51
venzenwar: that's weird04:51
voidlogicah ok04:51
war-totemvenzen, i agree04:51
Derick#batangas04:51
war-totemvenzen, but thanks for your help04:51
venzensure04:51
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evanprovoidlogic, my 2.6.11 kernel from hoary works fine04:52
venzenwar: do you run fetchmail as a daemon?04:52
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sambagirl     `who is hoary?04:52
voidlogicevanpro: does your issue resamble this: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0408.1/2196.html04:52
venzenhoary hedgehog04:52
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DDRhello people....i'm new here and like i need some help setting up a network for linux to windows04:52
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evanprosambagirl, a hedgehog04:52
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The_Voxok, I'm about ready to kill my ubuntu box....what does one do when during boot you get dumped into the "diagnosis mode" after a failed fsck?04:53
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evanproDDR, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba04:53
voidlogicThe_Vox, don't run ext304:53
DDRoh ok04:53
naliothThe_Vox: means you should check your hd more carefully at that point04:53
venzenDDR: you need samba - but that is a learning curve ...04:53
sambagirlwhen you do sharing on ubuntu does it work?04:54
kjs3So...other than a bad image, anyone have an idea why I'd get "[91.057796]  Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found.  Try passing init= option to kernel." before it hangs.04:54
The_Voxnalioth, I'd love to, but it wants root's password04:54
bur[n] ersambagirl: yes04:54
evanprovoidlogic, checking, one sec04:54
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The_Voxvoidlogic, never had problems with ext3 before04:54
sambagirli cannot see anything on a windows or macintosh or amiga computer on network.04:54
naliothThe_Vox: so use yours04:54
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The_Voxnalioth, uhm...doesn't like my password.04:54
=== bur[n] er wonders if shibby is good
sambagirlshibby?04:54
bur[n] ercause the gnome-panel in breezy is buggy as hell04:54
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naliothThe_Vox: then i dont know what to tell ya04:55
sambagirlsounds like dwarfs shibby, breezy, buggy :)04:55
voidlogicTheVox: yeah, after somthing like that happend to me I switched to ReiserFS, its been smooth sailing since an all my production servers04:55
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venzensambagirl: are you using the same workgroup on all of them?04:55
WhiteRabbitbur[n] er, havent you ever saw "Dude weres my cars"..?04:55
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sambagirlno i not think so i check it. it is in our house04:55
WhiteRabbitshibby means the awsome04:55
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The_Voxvoidlogic, I went the other route...ran from reiserfs after an ugly experience in a production server04:55
glickhmm why does my cdrom not sound like it writting when i attempt to write files to it via the gnome interface04:55
voidlogichow long ago? I didn't run it at first04:55
sambagirlvenzen where you living?04:55
voidlogiconly the past year or so04:56
The_Voxvoidlogic, uhm...2 years ago or so04:56
venzensambagirl: you have to google samba configuration - especially: smb.conf file04:56
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voidlogicI tested it then, it is VERY stable now, *cross my heart hope too die*04:56
venzensambagirl: London04:56
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sportmanhow do i update to the latest beta of gnome04:56
voidlogicI would give it ago, your in for a plesant supprise04:56
sand_ithallo everyone04:56
sportmando i have to compile from source?04:56
bob2sportman: does it even exuist yet?04:57
sportmanmy ubuntu install is very old04:57
WhiteRabbitsambagirl, I can handle the bugs04:57
bob2sportman: no it's not04:57
bob2sportman: it's from april04:57
venzensportman: how old - warty?04:57
bob2sportman: the latest version of gnome came out like a week ago04:57
WhiteRabbitsambagirl, but theres not really much if any atm04:57
sportmanyea, not breezy04:57
nybbleewweellll, night all04:57
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sand_itis there someone that can give me an advice, how to play mp3 songs in my ubuntu04:57
sportmanyea how cna i get that version bob204:57
bob2"6 months" is not "vert old"04:57
bob2sportman: by upgrading to breezy04:58
bob2sportman: but I wouldn't advise that if you care about binary drivers04:58
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bob2sand_it: that's in the FAQ04:58
sportmanahh04:58
bob2sand_it: /msg ubotu restricted04:58
bur[n] eror if you care about gnome-panel :\04:58
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voidlogicsand_it: enable the currently disabled sources is the package manager and get the all gstreamer plugin04:58
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voidlogicsand_it: gstreamer.08-all, or somthing like that04:58
venzenbob2: hang on, man, upgrading to breezy is too drastic for mp3 support04:58
sportmanwhat windows manager or gui should i use for gaming04:59
bob2venzen: indeed, when did I suggste that?04:59
bur[n] ersportman: something basic like fluxbox or xfce?04:59
sand_itthanks04:59
voidlogicsportman: most games run fullscreen, so it does not matter, i'd go with Gnome since its better supported04:59
durtxfce is super04:59
venzensportman: see www.ubuntuguide.com or fire up synaptic and search for xmms packages - there's an mp3 support package in there04:59
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sportmani wasnt asking for mp3 support, lol but thanks05:00
venzensportman what is your distro called?05:00
sportmanhoary05:00
dabarbob2: can you please read the "ask the bot" factoid and fix it so it works in this way. I tell the bot, tell $person about ask the bot $factoidName and he says everything same as now, but replaces mp3 with $factoidName?05:00
grodiusHow do you update Firefox05:00
voidlogicvenzen: sand_it was looking, and all you need to the gstreamer plugin and all is well for Rythm box05:00
bur[n] erbob2: can i ask you for some help troubleshooting gnome-panel & it's evolution integration?  everytime i go to gnome-panel's properties, the keyring manager pops up hoping to get my OLD evolution username & password for some reason... I'm just out of troubleshooting ideas05:00
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Madeyemorning05:00
bob2grodius: ubuntu has the latest available firefox version05:01
cafuego_bur[n] er: install the keyring manager and remove the old username entry05:01
venzensportman: sorry - I meant to post fao sand_it05:01
bob2bur[n] er: I don't use evolution, sorry05:01
bur[n] eri've apt-get remove --purged gnome-panel evolution* && rm -rf ~/.configfiles && apt-get install gnome-panel05:01
voidlogicALL: I'm looking for a topic for so I can apply for research, anyone have any cool ideas?05:01
GURTi'm having a problem with video files.. with xine and totum.. xime has no sound.. totem has no picture05:01
bur[n] erwell, it's gnome-panel05:01
bur[n] eri'm not even using evolution and I thought I cleared it..05:01
bob2voidlogic: merging in distributed revision control systems05:01
voidlogicGURT: get vlc05:01
durtubuntu doesnt have firefox 1.5 does it? which is much much more responsive that 1.0.605:01
sand_itand how can i play 'Avi, mpg' and other windows movie files ?05:01
bur[n] ercafuego_: I had the same idea... I did that, and it prompts me for username password still... for the panel!  not even evolution05:02
grodiusHow do I configure a 5 button Intellimouse Explorer?05:02
durtsand_it get w32codecs05:02
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WhiteRabbit!repos05:02
ubotusomebody said repos was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96905:02
bob2durt: 1.5 has not been released05:02
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voidlogicbob2: thats an interesting idea, i'll write it down, any others?05:02
YomicCan anyone suggest a good place to buy a laptop/notebook for college? (the college has high minimum requirements)05:02
durtbob2: but the beta works well enough05:02
bob2durt: yeah, it seems less slow05:02
sand_itwhere can i get that codecs ?05:02
bz0bman, when is final being released05:02
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bob2Yomic: high minimum requirements for what?05:03
bz0b!breezy05:03
bur[n] ercafuego_: can i show you via vnc?  if you've got a sec?05:03
bz0b!breazy05:03
ubotubz0b: Not a clue05:03
cafuego_durt: Are you suggesting Ubuntu start shipping with beta software?05:03
voidlogicYomic: www.tigerdirect.com has some very nice eMachine AMD64 laptops that should fit the bill05:03
sambagirldid you know USB mouse works excellent with ubuntu?05:03
Yomicbob2: The computers' specs.05:03
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hknezerif i just installed ubuntu, do i have all the necessary prereqs to install gcc05:03
teimucan anyone recommend an alternative to Partition Magic? it doesnt like my HD for some reason.05:03
sambagirlwhta about using a PDA or Pocket PC with it?05:03
venzensand_it: see ubuntuguide.org05:03
[Spooky] anyone here tht uses Skype on "Linux - Linux" ?05:03
naliothteimu: qtparted05:03
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bob2Yomic: why do they care? surely it depends on what course you're doing?05:04
bob2hknezer: no, you need build-essential05:04
naliothvenzen: dont blindly recommend ubuntuguide, please05:04
voidlogichknezer: just grab it using Synaptic, it will resolve any issues for you05:04
YomicComputer Science.05:04
grodius_How do you configure a 5 button intellimouse explorer05:04
bob2grodius_: configure it to do *what*?05:04
bob2wtf, CS doesn't require a highly specced computer05:04
durtcafuego_: no, I'm just saying that just saying that firefox 1.5 isnt in the ubuntu repositories, unless i happened to be mistaken05:04
venzennalioth: why, bro? installation of codecs is documented clearly there05:04
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Kyralbob2, no sh!t05:04
Yomicbob2: LA Tech does.05:05
Kyralhow old is CS now?05:05
bur[n] erdurt: of course not, it's beta ;)05:05
voidlogicbob2, that deepends on how much compiling you do :)05:05
naliothvenzen: direct linking to the factoid is preferable05:05
bur[n] erpeople who want beta software should know how to ccompile it themselve05:05
bob2Yomic: are they teaching it on windows?05:05
cafuego_bob2: That depends on whether they require you to do C# projects in MS Visual Studio.05:05
AgrajagKyral: computer science is probably about 100 years old05:05
KyralWait....are we talking CounterStrike?05:05
YomicThe specs aren't insanely high, btw.05:05
venzennalioth - seen..05:05
Yomicbob2: Yes05:05
Kyralwrong CS....05:05
bob2there you go05:05
kjs3LA Tech?  My wife and most of her family went there...05:05
bob2cafuego_: yeah, guess so05:05
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mik3is there a program for ubuntu like ttysnoop?05:06
KyralSorry, I see "CS" on IRC and I think CounterStrike05:06
sand_itthanks everyone05:06
voidlogiccafuego: my college is all C and Java, so GCC and javac05:06
bob2Yomic: froogle.google.com's good05:06
sportmanthe main repository that usually contains mplayer is no longer online05:06
sportmananyone have a diff one i could use05:06
bob2sportman: sorry, you're mistaken05:06
YomicAlright, thanks guys :)05:06
cafuego_voidlogic: They run fine on a P9005:06
mik3is there a program for ubuntu like ttysnoop?05:06
GURTvoidlogic, thanks05:06
teimunalioth, do you know any windows programs for windows that do partition resize/management/etc?05:06
bob2mik3: yes, called "ttysnoop"05:06
voidlogicGURT: np05:06
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dabarcafuego_: how do I make a factoid that does this: !dabar slon --- ubotu: well, dabar is really a slon. ?05:06
cafuego_sportman: I installed it about 30 mins ago, I suggest it *is* online.05:06
bur[n] erteimu: qtparted via livecd05:06
naliothteimu: no. you can use the ubuntu liveCd and the qtparted on it05:06
grodius_bob2: configure it so that you can use all 5 buttons05:06
bob2sportman: you should be using multiverse for mplayer, not random other ones05:07
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sambagirlwhat about Enemy Territory or True Combat can you run those games in ubuntu?05:07
cafuego_dabar: I don't think ubotu supports that syntax05:07
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WhiteRabbitsambagirl, YEs05:07
bob2grodius_: you can already do that, just none of your apps know about it05:07
bur[n] er!tell sportman about repositories05:07
sambagirlwow05:07
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regeyathe main repo does not contain mplayer, sportman05:07
WhiteRabbitsambagirl, ET & TC:E rox0rs in ubuntu05:07
voidlogiccafuego: I for one like to recompile the kernel on a very fast machine with SCSI hard drives in RAID0 so I'm not waiting a week05:07
bob2grodius_: what do you want the buttons to do?05:07
teimuis it pretty reliable...that qtparted?05:07
voidlogic ALL: I'm looking for a topic for so I can apply for research, anyone have any cool ideas?05:07
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bob2voidlogic: #ubuntu-offtopic05:07
TokenBadwhats c compiler to use for ubuntu?05:07
regeyaI suggest installing mplayer from cvs.  iirc there's something about that either on ubuntuforums or on the wiki. *shrug*05:07
bob2TokenBad: gcc, like every other unix on earth05:08
dabarso, dabar $1; ubotu: dabar is really blah, but ask me about $1. is not raelly possible?05:08
voidlogicTokenBad: GCC05:08
regeyamplayer even comes with handy-dandy debian-centric magic to help you build debs.05:08
grodius_bob2: I want them to be able to command my browser to go forward and backward05:08
sambagirlwow05:08
bob2grodius_: then you need a firefox extension05:08
sambagirli playing it now05:08
cafuego_dabar: It's done via cmd: foo (.*?), but it doesn't like that. maybe different in this version (compated to dpkg on #debian), dunno.05:09
dabarYou are missing the auxiliary verb to be. I am playing it now works.05:09
bur[n] erlol @ dabar05:09
cafuego_voidlogic: You don't need to recompile kernels for CS projects.05:09
dabarcafuego_: ok, whatever, not really important, I guess, would be neat.05:09
grodius_bob2: no i'm not talking about just firefox, ubuntu makes my 5th mouse button do the same as my 3rd, and my 4th does the same as my 2nd05:09
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sportmanok05:09
transgressanyone know what the kernel in breezy was compiled in for amd64?  because i swear it looks like it was compiled with gcc-3.405:10
dabarbur[n] er: we just got retaught taht in class today, a little grammar...05:10
sportmanits odd when i add the non source repository i get errors05:10
voidlogiccafuego: that depends on your project, often your projects will be very large though05:10
bob2grodius_: perhaps you need extra lines in xorg.conf...google doesn't know?05:10
sportmanbut if i add the source one it works05:10
sportmanso ill just compile from source :-p05:10
bob2transgress: less /var/log/dmesg05:10
cafuego_voidlogic: Still nowhere NEAR the size of the kernel.05:10
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bob2sportman: dude, stop using marillat or backports at all05:10
bob2sportman: mplayer is in ubuntu05:10
cafuego_sportman: The 'universe'r epo and 'hoary-extras' works fine. Just enable and use.05:10
mik3is there a command i can use to see what packages i have installed?05:10
voidlogiccafuego: I think any good C-S student should build the kernel themselves once for the experence05:11
bur[n] ermik3: xterm -e dpkg -l |less05:11
bob2mik3: dpkg -l | grep ^ii05:11
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cafuego_transgress: gcc-3.405:11
bz0bany turks in here by any chance?05:11
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sportmanbob205:11
sportmani know its in unbuntu05:11
sportmanit just was acting up05:11
sportmanlol05:11
sportmani dunno y05:11
sportmanbut w.e. it works fine now05:12
transgresscafuego_: so how would i go about compiling a module by hand and then insert it into the kernel when breezy now has gcc-4.0?05:12
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grodius_bob2: I dont know how to do that, thats why I was asking in the server05:12
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cafuego_voidlogic: Ticking boxes for hardware support is common sense. maybe people who can't RTFM should be made to, but it surely doesn't give you any useful skills for a CS degree (unless CS courses are more retarded now then they used to be, which is admittedly well possible)05:12
hknezerhow good is ubuntuguide.org05:12
cafuego_hknezer: about 305:13
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transgresshknezer: |---------| <-- that good... give or take05:13
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hknezercafuego_: what does that mean?05:13
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cafuego_hknezer: Dumb question, dumb answer.05:13
bur[n] erlol05:13
bur[n] erhknezer: not as good as wiki.ubuntu.com05:13
hknezerthanks for your help05:13
jesusfishanyone here know if there's a fix to the nvida + screen freeze bug?05:13
jesusfish(using breezy)05:14
=== bur[n] er wonders what hknezer expected for answer... some people
bob2hknezer: it's not good to blindly follow it05:14
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hknezeri understand that05:14
bob2but it has some useful information05:14
cafuego_voidlogicL I think my irc client lost the first part of that sentence.05:14
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bur[n] erjesusfish: bugzilla.ubuntu.com ?05:14
hknezerthat's the kind of answer i was looking for05:14
transgressis there a way to get a module compiled with gcc-4.0 to work with a kernel compiled in gcc-3.4?05:14
hknezer"oh i've looked at it, it has some useful info here, but some parts of it are kinda flawed"05:14
hknezer"namely x, y, z"05:14
regeyafull-on SMARTASS mode tonight, eh?05:15
cafuego_it's good for some help with some problems, but not great for fixing your car.05:15
bur[n] ertransgress: yes... ./configure --checkyourfreakinoptions :)05:15
transgressbur[n] er: no ./configure on it05:15
bur[n] er./configure --cc=gcc-3.4 was mine05:15
cafuego_transgress: without kernel panics? No.05:15
othomascar..my carb is messed up05:15
bur[n] eroh oh oh... you already have the module, nevermind05:15
transgresscafuego_: so umm... is this sort of a bug... having a stock kernel compiled with a diff version of gcc?05:15
bob2transgress: what module is it?05:15
transgresstrying to get the ndiswrapper source to compile still.05:16
cafuego_transgress: No, the kernel has interesting bits of code, that may or may not compile well (or at all) with different gcc versions.05:16
bob2transgress: then ndiswrapper modue just needs to be built with gcc-3.405:16
cafuego_transgress: various gcc versions have various workaround for kernel bugs, just building a kernel with a newer compiler my mean those bugs aren't worked around.05:16
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transgressbob2: can i get gcc-3.4 with breezy?05:17
cafuego_!info gcc-3.4 breezy05:17
ubotugcc-3.4: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.4.4-6ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 472 kB, Installed size: 4520 kB05:17
bob2transgress: of course05:17
bob2transgress: in the gcc-3.4 package05:17
transgressk05:17
transgressthanks.  this will help a lot.  i was thinking backwards.05:18
venzenhknezer: ubuntuguide.org is alright and evry new user should read it once and try some examples - it contains a few errors too (typos), so just know that when a command syntax error is reported.05:18
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transgressi also didn't think you could run two versions of gcc05:18
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bob2transgress: you can, but only one is called gcc05:18
bob2the other is gcc-3.405:18
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neighborleegetting kernel panic on 2.6.11 and wondering where do I look to diagnose error ( VFS: unable to mount root fs:: and yes ext3 is set to Y in kernel config)..??05:19
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voidlogichey, in GCC is there a way to make it assume namespace so I don't have to std everything?05:20
dabarhknezer:  You know, I am learning in school about technical writing. And the different types. UbuntuGuide is a procedural document. Do this, do this, do this, done. That is what users want. However, some things on it, like the repos, are shown what to do, but not completely, and this can bork a lot of systems, and has, like mine at some point. It needs a little more explanation, and it will be incorporated into a ubuntu official FAQ wit05:20
voidlogiclike in VC++?05:20
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naliothdabar: now catch your breath05:21
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dabarI love good explanations.05:21
kjs3Well...back to debian.  It, and Redhat, and suse, load without issue on these not very unusual servers.  With google showing nothing, and no other help forthcoming...Cheers.05:21
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AzMooIsn't UbuntuGuide a wiki?05:21
bur[n] erno05:22
KyralNo05:22
uglysmurfanyone here maintain the same users across their network via ldap/pam?05:23
AzMooOh. Wonder what the hell I'm thinking of then.05:23
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dabarAzMoo: wiki.ubuntu.com?05:23
AzMooHeh, probably ;)05:23
glyncan anyone help me make sense of these instructions?  They're too complicated for me05:23
glynhttp://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_NTFS_write_with_Captive_approach05:23
mkyb14anyone know how to clear the ram?  my ram is filling up and wanted to knwo if there was a command to clear it05:24
uglysmurfmkyb14, check to see which process is eating it up...could be a leak05:24
mkyb14how?05:24
naliothmkyb14: close some programs05:24
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Kyralglyn, don't touch Captive NTFS05:25
Kyralit will just destroy the FS05:25
isymquestion how do i edit with strace?05:25
mkyb14i have 786 pc 333 ram... i should be fine05:25
glynit's already destroyed05:25
Kyral.....05:25
glynI'm trying to get it to work by deleting files05:25
transgressokay who was it i was supposed to help with ndiswrapper earlier?05:25
glynbut no one will help me05:25
mkyb14nalioth i should have plenty of ram05:25
Kyralstill won't work05:25
transgressah yes i remember now05:25
Kyralthere is a reason no one will help you. Its 'cause its VERY unstable and unsafe05:25
bob2neighborlee: 2.6.11 is both old and broken05:26
bob2neighborlee: use a real ubuntu kernel05:26
uglysmurfmkyb14, with a program with a nasty memory leak, it wont matter how much you have05:26
glynbut if it's already destroyed why's it matter?05:26
naliothmkyb14: read ^^^^ uglysmurf05:26
bob2isym: wtf. what are you trying to do?05:26
Kyralbecause it will destroy anychance of you recovering it05:26
mkyb14uglysmurf?05:26
glynhow else would I recover it?05:26
KyralSafe Mode?05:26
isymok bob remember05:26
glynSafe Mode doesn't work05:26
isymthe quake program05:26
KyralReformat!!05:27
Kyral:D05:27
isymi got the libraries to work thank you by the way05:27
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glyndude reformat does not = recover05:27
KyralYour point? :D05:27
isymbut it kept saying couldnt load gfx .wad but its trying to look for it in /root/.trash05:27
glynI need to get this Captive thing working05:27
dabarglyn: you cant get files off it?05:27
mkyb14how the f does firefox-bin use 'vm = 110mb'05:27
uglysmurfmkyb14, crack open gnome-system-monitor ...sort by VM size, and look for something being obnoxious with memory05:27
KyralSorry I'm a cynical bastard05:27
glynI can but I want to use Windows and I don't have the CD anymore05:27
isymi straced it and i know FOR SURE gfx.wad isnt in my trash05:27
isymhehe05:27
bob2isym: please don't tell me you're running quake as root05:27
Kyralthen bite the bullet and completely convert05:27
Kyralits a sign!!05:28
bob2isym: please05:28
isymno i put permissions on it05:28
dabarglyn: well, I cant help you with that, I dont think.05:28
isymchown what not05:28
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Fujihi05:28
Fujianyone here?05:28
isymi know very little bout linux heh05:28
KyralFuji, there are 400 people in chan05:28
Kyralwhat do you think :D05:28
isymlol05:28
isymhahahaha05:28
Fujikekekeke05:28
neighborleebob2, sigh I am using 2.6.11 kernel source from repository05:28
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bob2neighborlee: 2.6.11 in hoary is known to be uselessly broken05:29
neighborleebob2, I need source so I can patch with badram patch..im having instability problems05:29
isymi just wanna know how to edit so it will look for the file where its supposed 205:29
bob2neighborlee: why are you trying to use that instead of 2.6.10?05:29
neighborleebob2, I figured ;(05:29
mkyb14how the f does firefox-bin use 'vm = 110mb'05:29
bob2isym: that's not what you need to do05:29
bob2mkyb14: because it's buggy05:29
bob2mkyb14: film at 1105:29
mkyb14film?05:29
isymdamn bob feel bad for you .. heh like 100 customers :D05:30
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neighborleebob2, I was having trouble with 2.6.10 source too05:30
isymthen how can i be able to change those paths05:30
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neighborleebob2, i'm a bit rusty with kernel config I suppose..if you miss something bam...;-)05:30
KyralAnyway, I'm going to bed..05:30
Kyralnight all05:30
bob2neighborlee: just use the ubuntu config then05:30
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Fujii have ubuntu 5.04, whenever i try to install it, it freezes near the end of install (when it sets up packages).. all my computer specs and info are at http://img307.imageshack.us/my.php?image=help9sy.jpg.  anyone know what could be causing this? motherboard? ram? please help..05:30
Fujiplease help >_<05:31
bob2neighborlee: did you use memtest86 to see if the ram was really the problem?05:31
neighborleeI did yes05:31
mkyb14i dunno much about the process's i'm looking at..... how do i know i'm not goiog to kill something i'm using?05:31
neighborleeand its bad05:31
bob2mkyb14: then leave them alone05:31
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mkyb14lol there's like 50process's05:31
cafuego_If you have bad ram, you ought not to be compiling stuff, let alone kernels.05:31
mkyb14ah05:31
neighborleebob2, and I got that dain expensive rdram which is like $500 for 512mb and Ihave a gig of it..so thats not really an option ;-)05:31
neighborleebob2, so I thought to try badram patch which looks decent05:32
cafuego_neighborlee: Did you get ram with decent a warranty?05:32
neighborleecafuego, its a dell dimension 8200, just out of warranty ;(05:32
mkyb14has anyone here ever goten the remote desktop to work so that a windows machine can take control05:32
rendi!grub05:32
ubotu[grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows05:32
cafuego_neighborlee: Yuck05:32
neighborleeyeah bites05:32
neighborleeram isn't very old either really05:33
neighborleeGO FIG ;-)05:33
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neighborleeover a year of course so im sunk and enter badram...dont want to get new system yet as I dont exper. problems in XP so..05:33
neighborleesigh05:33
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mkyb14ou ou ... i need to make a shortcut to my /var/www on my desktop.... but it won't let me in the GUI, so how would i dothat in terminal?05:34
cafuego_mkyb14: ln -s /var/www ~/Desktop05:34
mkyb14awosome05:35
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isymbob2 tell me really quickly how i can change that path05:35
mkyb14how do i (in terminal) install a .deb package?05:36
cafuego_Does ubuntu have a sparkle plugin for firefox yet?05:36
cafuego_mkyb14: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb05:36
bimberimkyb14: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb05:36
dabarisym: path is a variable. You can set it as any other variable. Whether this will fix your issue, or not, is not known.05:36
isymok how can i change it05:36
isymso it doesnt look in the trash?05:36
isym:)05:36
mkyb14thanks05:37
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transgressbeagle makes me happy05:37
dabarisym, please /join #flood05:37
windexquestion about breezy?05:37
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bob2isym: I think you misinterprted it's output05:37
windexanyone know if the i810 driver in breeezy has been upgraded to support rotating the screen05:37
bob2isym: put the pak file in the same dir as the binary05:37
bob2windex: does X.org 6.9 support it?05:38
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transgressokay i got one last thing to wonder about05:38
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windexbob2, i have no idea. i only know the patch is in cvs.05:38
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transgresson my laptop... somehow... ubuntu magically loads my mouse as a ps/2... it's a touchpad... ALPS synaptic.  which means i can't turn tapping off... and i can't get the scroll bar to work... it works in fedora... but not ubuntu... any tips?05:39
windexbob2, i guess i will find out. :D05:39
isymbinary?05:39
isymgawd i wish i was smart hehe05:39
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bob2isym: as the bloody binary you're runniing05:39
isymLOL05:39
isymi think im frustrating u man im sorry05:39
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poofyhairhello05:40
neighborleebob2, ubuntu kernel config as in make-kpkg ?05:40
glynhow do I access the root account?  it keeps telling me authentication failure05:40
bob2neighborlee: no, as in the actual .config05:40
bob2neighborlee: look in /boot/05:41
bob2glyn: wiki.ubuntu.com/Rootsudo05:41
uglysmurfglyn, try sudo -s, try not to hurt yourself05:41
bob2glyn: the installer did explain this to you, and it is in the FAQ05:41
neighborleebob2, ahh yes05:41
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neighborleebob2, thx that should fix me right up <wink>05:42
Madeyeguys, whenever there is a typo in a web link, my firefox goes directly to Mircosoft.com website, why it's happening ?05:42
bob2neighborlee: note that you then require an initrd05:42
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neighborleebob2, but ive got ext3 built into kernel05:42
glynwhen I type sudo -s nothing happens05:42
bob2Madeye: because it does an "I'm feeling lucky" google search and sends you there05:42
bob2glyn: look harder05:43
bob2glyn: it puts you into a root shell05:43
glynsudoh okay05:43
uglysmurfanyone have any experience creating users for multiple machines across their network via ldap/pam?05:43
Fuji i have ubuntu 5.04, whenever i try to install it, it freezes near the end of install (when it sets up packages).. all my computer specs and info are at http://img307.imageshack.us/my.php?image=help9sy.jpg.  anyone know what could be causing this? motherboard? ram? please help..05:43
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glynhow do I compile my kernel?05:44
bob2glyn: you don't05:44
cafuego_If you need to ask that, it's probably better you didn't.05:44
cafuego_Ask ubotu about 'compiling'.05:44
uglysmurfi don't sit in here too often, but sometimes when you get one guy asking real lame questions back to back, i wonder if they're just trolling for fun or what05:45
Madeyebob2,  i see, but why it's always MS site?05:45
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bob2Madeye: because they have a lot of google juice, apparently05:45
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Madeyebob2, Thank you, *blessed*05:46
glynit says on this site to compile my kernel by typing uname -rm05:46
glynbut when I type it nothing happens05:46
AzMooheh05:46
bob2glyn: that has nothing to do with compiling your kernel05:46
bob2glyn: are you trolling or really clueless?05:46
AzMooWhat site are you reading?05:46
glynI don't even know what trolling is05:46
neighborleebob2, so if I use the config for current runing kernel I can just remove need for initrd long as ext3 is set to Y right ?05:46
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bob2neighborlee: and all your ide/scsi stuff05:47
glynI really don't know what I'm doing05:47
cafuego_glyn: Why do you need to compile a kernel?05:47
glynI'm trying to install an application05:47
cafuego_Such as?05:47
bob2glyn: what page told you uname recompiled your kernel?05:48
glynCaptive RPM05:48
cafuego_Ah, windows drivers.05:48
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bob2then you'll need to join the captive ntfs mailing list05:48
bob2and ask them05:48
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poofyhairor search the forum05:49
poofyhairor the gentoo forum05:49
neighborleebob2, k thx05:49
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cafuego_poofyhair: Yeah, just add CAPTIVE to the USE flags for the kernel, behind -O6 should be sufficient.05:49
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Strifeanyone know if there's a way to use transset automatically for certain applications?05:49
poofyhairlol05:50
cafuego_Strife: in KDE3.4 there is, not in GNome as of yet, I think.05:50
StrifeI looked into devilspie, but apparently that only sets WM-specific things and doesn't have functionality to call a particular program05:50
poofyhairsome of the gentoo stuff is more general05:50
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poofyhairtheir wiki page about xorg is great05:50
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Strifecafuego_: right...05:50
veritasDoes anyone know how I can get ventrilo working with Ubuntu?05:50
StrifeI just wonder if there's a devilspie-like option...05:50
StrifeI haven't found one yet05:50
gabnethello to all... newbe her05:50
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gabnetany body here have an idea what hardware ubuntu is supporting05:51
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Strifegabnet: lots05:51
Plazmaanyone have any problems with a normal airport card + ubuntu + clamshell ibook?05:51
dabargabnet: wiki.ubuntu.com/hardwaresupport05:51
gabnetStrife:  i am using groce mx400005:52
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gabnetbut it think it is not supported with ubuntu05:52
TokenBadwhats command to restart inetd?05:52
Strifeif by groce you mean gforce, nvidia has linux drivers that work great, gabaug05:52
gabneti cannot bootup if i use my video card05:52
Strifeerm05:52
Strifegabnet:05:52
bob2TokenBad: sudo invoke-rc.d intetd restarts05:52
Plazmabob2, have you ever got ubuntu working with a normal airport card?05:53
StrifeTokenBad: specifically, 'sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart'05:53
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veritaswhat's the command to scan with a wireless device?05:53
Strifethat's a bit more complicated...05:54
[fujie2(n=fuji@d198-166-48-70.abhsia.telus.net)] my ubuntu 5.04 freezes during install near the end, when it sets up packages. do you have any idea what could be causing this?05:54
bob2Plazma: I dn't have such hardware, but I've seen people do it05:54
bob2Plazma: if it doesn't work, file a bug if no one else has05:54
bob2veritas: depends05:54
bob2veritas: sudo iwlist ethN scaning, perhaps05:54
veritasThat's what I'm looking for05:54
veritasI knew the command, but forgot the ing..05:54
gabnethow can i install the driver if i cant boot using gforce05:55
VersedI have ubuntu working under a regular airport card (not extreme)05:55
poofyhairPlama: works great05:55
gabnetit freez when starting hotplug subsystem05:55
poofyhairI have one too05:55
Plazmapoofy, did it work out of the box? or did you have to go through some hoops?05:56
VersedPlasma I have it installed on a G4 450 tower05:56
poofyhairPlasma: look at my blog entry about the whole clamshell:05:56
poofyhairhttp://ubuntuforums.org/journal.php?do=showjournal&j=2305:56
Verseddon't know why there should be a problem.05:56
poofyhairout of the box05:56
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Plazmapoofyhair, thank you05:57
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poofyhairany time05:57
gabnetstrife:  may pc hangs during starting hotplug05:57
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Plazmapoofyhair, id rather not create an account, can you pastebin it perhaps?05:57
durtspeaking of wireless stuff, anybody get the acx100 driver working?05:57
kevogodAnyone here use Screem Code editor?05:57
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poofyhairhmmmm.......05:58
Strifegabnet: that sucks05:58
poofyhairI have an idea05:58
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Cinlo05:58
Strifegabnet: what does that have to do with a geforce card though?05:58
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regeyafujie2 it's rude to simply /msg people05:58
FibreOpticWhat's the easiest way to move my /home directory onto a different partition?05:58
fujie2sorry :/05:59
Plazmapoofyhair, nm i just registrd reading now..05:59
XoBelLoXhey does any one know how to join offtopic if so can u help me?05:59
poofyhairok05:59
Cingeforce card? problems?05:59
poofyhairI was going to post to wiki05:59
regeyabesides, that's a bit vague...I wouldn't know where to begin on that one, sorry, fujie205:59
marlon_hi there, please... can anyone help me how to enable file sharing on ubuntu linux05:59
poofyhairask questions if you want05:59
fujie2np05:59
hondjeFibreOptic: cp it, then remount it as /home05:59
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robotgeekfujie2: no idea06:00
durtwhat do you want to accomplish and what problems are you having marlon_?06:00
FibreOpticit's that simple eh? good enough...06:00
hondjeFibreOptic: Yep yep :)06:00
marlon_sir, i need to share file across our LAN with ubuntu06:00
marlon_im having difficulties using its samba and nfs06:01
Plazmapoofyhair, that article doesnt really help me does it?06:01
war-totemanyone know off hand of 'speed up boot times with ubuntu' faq or something?06:01
transgresswar-totem: remove unneeded services06:02
HrdwrBoBwar-totem: yes, wait for breezy06:02
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HrdwrBoBwar-totem: it will be MUCH faster06:02
transgressyeah breezy is much faster06:02
transgresswhy is it so much faster btw?06:02
war-totemtransgress, how do i do that?06:02
poofyhairPlasma: I'm sorry06:02
war-totemHrdwrBoB, when will breezy be ready?06:02
HrdwrBoBtransgress: because it's made from awesome06:02
poofyhairplasma: I have experiance though, I can asnwer questions06:02
dabartransgress: cause you finally slowed down...06:02
transgresswar-totem: /topic06:02
durtmarlon_ from a windows machine?06:02
poofyhairPlasma: for me suspend works too06:02
HrdwrBoBpeople have been profiling boot processes and optimised them06:02
war-totemtransgress, i dont ge tit06:03
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marlon_from another ubuntu machine vice-versa06:03
Plazmapoofyhair, oh im not knockin it. in fact its insightful, but see for some reason like, ill do dmesg and itll show the orinoco at the bottom , but i cjust cant see an interface referencing the airport card06:03
dabarneither do I get any tit:(06:03
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dabarlater/06:03
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foampiecea loud voice thunders from above. I gave you linux and you stole windows?! a double minded nerd is unstable in all his ways.06:03
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war-totemnm06:03
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war-totemi get it06:03
x[trick] xhow can i install abuntu?06:03
ColossusDoes anybody know what the driver for a RealTek NA2016RB is?06:03
poofyhairPLasma: so you have hoary installed now, and it won't work?06:04
FibreOptichondje: gotta make sure the filesys is the same right? i can't copy directly ext2 to say, a ReiserFS?06:04
war-totemtransgress, where do i go to get rid of unnecessary services?06:04
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Plazmapoofyhair, hoary is installed, the os works great, its just not working with my regular airport card06:04
hondjeFibreOptic: You can do that too06:04
naliothfujie2: dont msg me please06:04
fujie2sorry06:04
transgresswar-totem: in the rc*d directories... but you may not want to do that unless you really know what you're doing06:04
hondjeFibreOptic: You're copying the data, not the inodes, it's filesystem independant.06:04
x[trick] xhow can i start installing abuntu???06:04
war-totemtransgress, ok thanks06:04
Kyteenhey bob206:04
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x[trick] xthis is my first time to try to install abuntu06:05
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gabnetyes i have a problem with my video card06:05
durtxtrickx put the cd in the cd drive and follow the diretions06:05
transgressyou get the disc, put it in, and run with it06:05
spockboyx[trick] x: try downloading the CD ISO, and burning it to CD, that usually works06:05
gabneti'm using gforce nvidia mx400006:05
billytwowillySeveas, are you there?06:05
FibreOptichondje: very nice...no messing with tar compression to preserve flags etc06:05
Plazmapoofyhair, thanks though im checking the forums now06:05
x[trick] xdo i have to format first my windwos>??06:06
durtgabnet: are you trying to use nvidia-glx?06:06
XoBelLoXdoes anyone no how to join ubuntu offtopic i so can you help me please?06:06
poofyhairPlasma: Honestly....it should. Thats really weird. I have a suggestion though: put Breezy on it. Clean install if you can. It should just work.06:06
Colossusx[trick] x: you'll have to lose Windows, unless you want to get a separate hard drive for Ubuntu.06:06
poofyhairPlsam: The hoary06:06
x[trick] xoic.06:06
hondjeFibreOptic: Yep :-) Linux is friendly when it comes to adding/removing partitions and drives06:06
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poofyhairPlasma: I have on mine is the preview release06:06
mongohello hello.  chatting from my fresh, first-time install of Ubuntu (breezy)06:07
FibreOptichondje: thanks...wanted to check before i went ahead and messed my home dir ;)06:07
hondjehehe, no problem06:07
poofyhairplasa: now that you reminded me about the thing I am upgrading it to Breezy now06:07
gabnetno, i dont know how06:07
x[trick] xi had a 80gig hdd partitioned into 2 drives. can i still use my present partition??06:07
gabnetdurt: i'm new to linux06:07
billytwowillyso on the hoary cd what do I have to copy over to get a local deb repository?06:07
Kyteenguys can anybody help me06:07
x[trick] xme too gabnet06:07
x[trick] xhehehe06:07
durtgabnet: then what have you tried to install?06:08
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marlon_durt ps any idea? need to get the ubundu working on our LAN06:08
kevin06Kyteen, Ask your question, don't ask to ask...06:08
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Kyteenk06:08
gabnetdurt: i cannot boot using my AGP card06:08
BicchiHow exactly does one uninstall software in linux that wasn't installed with synaptic. For example i installed drivers for my video card from the ATI website and now i wish to remove them?06:08
zovirlany idea why windows often open up behind other windows?  Shouldn't they show up on top?06:08
Kyteeni have troubles starting my connection06:08
Myrttiarrrrhhhhhh06:08
Kyteeni got warning msg06:08
XoBelLoX(nalioth) do you know how to join off topic chat06:08
gabnetso what i did is i use the build video of my motherboard06:09
durtmarlon_:  sorry :( i only share with a windows computer, so i dont know06:09
bur[n] erBicchi: how'd you install them?06:09
feveli have lilo and ubuntu on dual boot with win and my key board stopped working loging in to windows automatically06:09
TokenBadanyone here use glftpd?06:09
bur[n] erBicchi: you make a deb?06:09
x[trick] xi had a 80gig hdd partitioned into 2 drives. can i still use my present partition?? after i installed ubundu06:09
fevelcan anyone help06:09
naliothXoBelLoX: you got there earlier, type in your text box "/j #ubuntu-offtopic"06:09
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fevelit works though06:09
XoBelLoXooo ya forgot thatnks06:09
fevelwhen i login to windoes06:09
zovirlbicchi unless the ATI installer has an uninstall mode, I don't think there is a good answer.  That's why packages are nice :)06:09
Bicchibur[n] er: i used the linux installer that comes with the download.06:09
Kyteenonce i use from command line : sudo pon it's gives me this answer06:10
Kyteen/usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/provider: unrecognized option '/dev/modem'06:10
Kyteenonce i click on dialup connection it's gives me this warning box06:10
Kyteenkppp can not find:06:10
Kyteen/dev/ttySL006:10
KyteenPlease make sure you have setup your modem device properly and/or adjust the location of the modem device on the modem tab of the setup dialog.06:10
zovirlbicchi if you could get a list of all the files it installed you could remove by hand06:10
bur[n] erBicchi: good luck then ;)06:10
Bicchizovirl: yeah unfortunally i am finding this the hard way06:10
zovirlbicchi yeah :)06:10
gabnetif i use my video card my pc hangs during start up06:10
glynHow come when I try to move a file into usr/src I get the message cannot write to it?06:10
zovirlbicchi can you just leave the files there?  clutter, I know...but do you really need them removed?06:10
fevelplease ask here fujie206:10
gabnetstarting hotplug subsystem....06:10
glynIt tells me I don't have permissions to write to this folder06:11
glickwhy is fujie2 randomly private messaging me when i havent said anything in here for like an hour?06:11
durtgabnet, you mean if you use the nvidia drivers instead of the nv drivers?06:11
Kyteendid u get that kevin0606:11
Bicchizovirl: no i don't, the problem is that i am trying to use my dual monitor setup and its not working. I even tried the fglrx drivers and no luck either06:11
gabnetno i still mot installing any driver06:11
Plazmapoofyhair, it detected it now.. thanks06:11
kevin06Kyteen, I did. Are you refering to your internet connection?06:12
poofyhairhow?06:12
ColossusWhere can I download the latest kernel for Ubuntu?06:12
gabnetdo i need to install 1st the driver before installing the card06:12
zovirlbicchi: no ideas.  the nvidia installer has an --uninstall option.  Don't know if ATI does also06:12
glyncan anyone help me compile my kernel?06:12
Plazmapoofyhair, i dont know,, it just started working06:12
durtgabnet: so you mean when you plug the card in then i assume06:12
glynColossus>Try www.kernel.or06:12
glynColossus>Try www.kernel.org06:12
Kyteeni configure it real good06:12
fevelwhell i guess no one knows why my keyboard stopped working during boottime06:12
Plazmaglyn, there is nice documentation on ubuntu's website06:12
Bicchizovirl: it only works when i use the ati drivers that come with ubuntu06:12
poofyhairplasma: thats the ticket06:12
zovirlbicchi: I have nvidia not ATI...06:12
jrattner1linux is amazing06:12
poofyhairplasma: good luck in future06:12
zovirlbicchi: so I don't really know06:12
Kyteenbut the problem is with that warning hints06:12
Colossusglyn: yeah, but I was looking for a .deb.06:12
Bicchizovirl: do you also have dual monitors06:12
zovirlbicchi: well, 1 monitor & 1 TV06:12
poofyhairdual monitors and nvidia rocks06:12
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jrattner1I got a question, when the new ubuntu is installed, I'm going to reinstall my system from fresh06:13
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Kyteeni tried both from command line and normal connect06:13
x[trick] xis there i web site where they can guide us in installing ubuntu???06:13
gabnetdurt: my pc hang if i use my card06:13
jrattner1could i make a partition to keep my music in so i dont lose it06:13
kevin06Kyteen, Are you using an ethernet connection for it, or dial-up?06:13
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Kyteendialup06:13
zovirlpoofyhair I don't know, nvidia's twinview didn't impress me.  I ended up using the other mode06:13
kevin06Kyteen, Sorry. Kepp asking, I haven't ever used dial-up.06:13
fevelits pretty self explanatory x[trick] x06:13
glynPlazma>can you give me a direct link please?06:13
Bicchizovirl: the problem is that when i move windows inside kde i get a lot of drag from the edges of the windows been displayed.06:13
Plazmaglyn, sure gimme a sec06:14
spockboyCan anyone tell me what I should do to re-create my initrd image? i have LVM on top of a RAID5 array, and I recently changed disk configurations so they are now on different bus locations, and ubuntu won't boot...06:14
foampieceIf we made this best user supported OS ever and put on the package sorry we dont support windows maybe would can play games too :/06:14
poofyhairzovirl: look at this wiki page06:14
poofyhairhttp://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors06:14
Bicchizovirl: the same happens in gnome. so i think it has to do with the acceleration.06:14
poofyhairworks great in ubuntu06:14
kevin06x[trick] x, Ubuntu uses the Debian installer. It is really straignforeward and well documented. Put the CD in power on, read the screens, answer a few simple questions...06:14
meuserjwell.. that was weird.. tried to join this channel and it said I was banned.... could it be because I'm using Tor/Privoxy?06:14
x[trick] xwell... thanks wish me luck :)06:14
poofyhairI have two screens in twinview's copy of xinerama mode, with xcompmgr turned on06:14
Kyteenthere is no solution06:14
meuserjit works now for some reason06:14
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poofyhairbicchi: only and nvidia card can solve that06:15
zovirlbicchi: drag?06:15
Bicchizovirl: yeah like that ghost effect06:15
cafuego_fujie2: Please do not privmsg me.06:15
x[trick] xi have a dsl connection hope i dont have a hard time connecting to the net :)06:15
fujie2sorry06:15
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zovirlbicchi: oh.  yeah sounds like you don't have the right drivers...06:16
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Kyteencan anybody help me with dialup connection pls06:16
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zovirlbicchi: but you knew that06:16
Plazmaglyn, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto06:16
jrattner1I got a question, when the new ubuntu is installed, I'm going to reinstall my system from fresh, could i make a partition to keep my music in so i dont lose it?06:16
Plazmaerr06:16
Plazmaglyn, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto06:16
poofyhairbicchi: you need hardware acceration to make that go away06:16
Bicchipoofyhair: can you tell me how?06:16
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kevin06x[trick] x, I actually found an ethernet connection to the internet easier to handle on Linux than on Windows.06:17
poofyhairhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2076906:17
durtjrattner1, you probably could make and extended partition and use it for the /home directory06:17
kevin06x[trick] x, It just worked out of the box, on Windows, I had to run a stupid wizard...06:17
poofyhairhttp://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=161495&threshold=0&commentsort=0&tid=131&mode=thread&cid=1350679006:17
jrattner1durt is it worth doing06:17
poofyhairfor you bicchi06:17
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durtjrattner1: dont ask me... ;)06:18
bob2fujie2: do not /msg me unless you're a friend or offering me money06:18
x[trick] xi'll take your word kevin... thanks06:18
Kyteenhey bob206:19
Kyteeni am still stuck with that modem06:19
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Kyteeni insalled as u told me but there is an error06:19
Kyteenonce i use from command line : sudo pon it's gives me this answer06:19
Kyteen/usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/provider: unrecognized option '/dev/modem'06:19
Kyteenonce i click on dialup connection it's gives me this warning box06:19
Kyteenkppp can not find:06:19
Kyteen/dev/ttySL006:19
KyteenPlease make sure you have setup your modem device properly and/or adjust the location of the modem device on the modem tab of the setup dialog.06:19
windex;msg bob2 hey! here's $20.06:19
windexdoh.06:19
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Kyteenpls read above06:19
rendiguys how to install grub06:20
silvertonIs there a wiki page for supported hardware?06:20
rendii have apt-get remove grub06:20
x[trick] xim jsut curious bout this ubuntu coz im not really familiar with linux specially tose comamnds06:20
rendiand how to get back06:20
fujie2sorry bob206:20
zovirlanyone know why new windows keep opening up behind existing windows, instead of in front?06:20
jrattner1is the new realease out?06:20
fujie2im just running out of options lol06:20
fujie2been trying to get this installed for days06:20
x[trick] xand i must admit once i start installing this thing i really dont know what will hapen06:20
poofyhairhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport?highlight=%28hardware%2906:20
poofyhairfor you silverton06:20
backzHey, I'm trying to access a windows ftp with gftp, but my system (ubuntu) is configured to use UTF-8 and my windows uses latin1, how I convert latin1 from Windows FTP to see in UTF-8 ?06:20
fevelcan anyone help me alter my lilo boot sequence06:20
fevelgod i love ubuntu06:21
silvertonthanks poofyhair06:21
spockboyho-hum ... can anyone tell me what I should do to re-create my initrd image? i have LVM on top of a RAID5 array, and I recently changed disk configurations so they are now on different bus locations, and ubuntu won't boot...06:21
f34rHey ive got a guestion. I've got a wireless usb nic.. and was wondering if there is support for wireless usb nics in ubuntu?06:21
bur[n] erf34r: yes06:21
fevelcan anyone help me alter my lilo boot sequence06:21
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silvertonWhat would I need to get a microsoft wifi card working?06:22
silvertonndiswrapper?06:22
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cafuego_sheesh, *ANOTHER* new xorg06:22
brussowfujie2, are you installing from a downloaded iso?06:22
bur[n] ercafuego_: none of these new ones have fixed my glxgears ;)06:22
fujie2yes i am06:22
kevin06x[trick] x, I tried about 20 distros before coming to Ubuntu. It was also my first Linux experience. I was amazed at what Ubuntu could do out of the box. Recommended for beginners all the way!06:22
poofyhairsliverton: depends06:22
poofyhairsome ms cards work out of the box06:22
poofyhairif it deosn't- ndiswrapper06:22
brussowfujie2, have you tried burning to new media?06:22
fujie2yep06:22
silvertonhave any knowledge of a Microsoft MN73006:22
fujie2well i dont know if its a hardware or software issue06:23
fujie2im 99% sure my cd is fine06:23
zovirlx[trick] x if you don't want to install you could try the live CD for a few days/weeks to get used to it06:23
fujie2http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66074 is a post i made on the forum06:23
fujie2but noreplies06:23
backzHow I fix the encode (latin1) on gftp?06:23
Colossussilverton: I've got a MN130, and I'm hoping the new kernel will work to help that.06:23
cafuego_!forums 6607406:23
ubotuForums: Thread 66074 is: Ubuntu Forums - Installation freezes near the end at package install.. please help me >_<06:23
x[trick] xnoce to here from you kevin.. just wish me luck.. im currently donwloading the iso file of ubuntu06:23
cafuego_fujie2: maybe noone knows the answer...06:23
brussowfujie2, ok. ill look at it and see if i can give any suggestions06:23
f34rbur[n] er - where can i find help on on usb nics?06:23
fujie2thanks brussow :)06:23
fujie2can i pm u?06:23
durtf34r: what model is it?06:24
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zovirlbrussow: is fujie2 at the stage where it is trying to download updates?  Might that make it freeze for a while if there isn't a proper network?  (just an idea...)06:24
silvertonColonelKernel, MN130?  or 730?06:24
kevin06x[trick] x, Ubuntu is simple enough to install and use I have convinced 2 people to migrate to it with mere IM chats. You don't need luck at all...06:24
silvertonwhoops06:24
glynPlazma>The instructions are broken or something, they don't work06:24
poofyhairbye06:24
silvertonColossus, MN130?  or 730?06:24
fujie2i freeze at stage 2.. it installs packages, and just hangs06:25
Colossussilverton: 130.06:25
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fujie2brussow may i pm u?06:25
glynon this site it's trying to help me compile a kernel and it says to type apt-get install linux-tree-2.6.8.1 but when I do that it says it can't find the package06:25
silvertonI wonder if they use the same chipset...06:25
x[trick] xjuwt wondering.... ubuntu is just like windows??06:25
f34rbur[n] er: motorola06:25
silvertonx[trick] x, um... no...06:26
kevin06x[trick] x, No, Ubuntu is a bit different, just as all operating systems are...06:26
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brussowfujie2, i replied to that thread06:26
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fujie2ill reply06:26
glynanyone able to help me compie a kernel?06:26
glyn*compile06:26
x[trick] xso in ubuntu theres no such thing as auto detecting hardwares?06:26
Sonny_Wertzikanyone here know how to make evolution mail  to do a send/recieve automatically on start up?06:26
kevin06x[trick] x, Linux does "auto-detect" a lot. It works a little differently because most things on Linux have support built in.06:27
fujie2replied brussow :)06:27
kevin06x[trick] x, What kinds of things are you concerned about, with the migration/06:27
glynHmm I guess no one knows how to compile a kernel, glad I'm not the only one heh06:28
f34rdurt : its a motorola06:28
durtmotorola what?06:28
f34rim tryin to find the model06:28
x[trick] xmy lan,06:28
x[trick] xi had built-in lan, video and sound06:28
kevin06x[trick] x, Do you have a DCHP server on that network? Most routers have one built in...06:29
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zovirlx[trick] x I have a shuttle sk41g with built-in lan & sound.  Ubuntu detected it fine...06:29
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zovirlx[trick] x try the live CD...it will let you know if it will work with your hardware without requiring an actuall install06:29
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backzHow I must do to convert in gftp the charset? Like in my fat32 on my machine, I use iocharset=utf-8, but... in remote ftp? what I must do?06:29
x[trick] xyeah i had a dhcp server06:30
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kevin06x[trick] x, I ran Ubuntu on a laptop that had internal lan, video, sound. It also had a CD/DVD burner combo, USB DVD+/-RW drive, HP printer, HP scanner, and a few other things connected and Ubuntu got them all.06:30
Dr_Williskevin06,  :P Lucky you.06:30
x[trick] xlol06:30
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Sonny_Wertzikanyone here know how to make evolution mail  to do a send/recieve automatically on start up?06:30
Dr_WillisYou dont want to know the current disaaster with my laptop :P06:30
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Dr_Willisbut on the bright side - knoppix live dvd 4.0 with a newer kernel did work much better on it.. so perhaps the next ubuntu will as well.06:31
x[trick] x:( @ dr_willis06:31
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durtwhy would one want to send mail on startup?06:31
glynDr_Willis>Would you be able to help me install Captive-NTFS?06:31
Strifehas anyone here managed to compile skippy-xd?06:31
Dr_Willisglyn,  nope,. :P check the wiki and docs/homepage first?06:31
kevin06Dr_Willis, I have pics of this beast (negative meaning). I eneded up deshelling it and physically mounting it to my cofee table...06:31
snausagesare there any apps that will capture any audio playon on my pc?06:31
snausagesplaying on *06:31
zovirlSonny_Wertzik: that would be nice.  let me know if you find out :)06:32
Dr_Williskevin06,  lol - that sounds like my OLD laptop - its sort of glued to a wooden frame i had to make.06:32
jhoszany one from the philippines here?06:32
glynYeah, it told me to compile a kernel but the instructions for compiling a kernel don't work06:32
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x[trick] xme!! im from cavite06:32
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kevin06Dr_Willis, Overheating?06:33
esc_apeanyone know french?06:33
durtno french06:33
jhoszhow do u install yahoo? me from pampanga06:33
Dr_Williskevin06,  it just had 'issues' with the plastic of the case failing.. and the hinges broke.. and.. :P06:33
durtjhosx: install yahoo what?06:33
x[trick] xtol bago lang ako06:33
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x[trick] xnag tatanong lang din ako d206:34
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x[trick] xheheh06:34
_eXoDuShey, quick question, is it possible to upgrade from an i386 ubuntu to an amd64 one?06:34
jhoszlipat ka din from win?06:34
brussowfujie2, check that thread06:34
x[trick] xoo e06:34
Strifeso... no one has used skippy-xd?06:34
x[trick] xme raid din ba dyan?06:34
Cashelholy snikes batman, theres a lot of people in here!06:34
war-totemubuntu can handle .deb files right?06:34
Dr_Willis_eXoDuS,  hmm.. i dont think so. never seen anyone brave enough to try. :P 0r even ask that.06:34
glickglick06:34
jhoszuu.. hintay nga namin06:34
_eXoDuSDr_Willis: hehe06:35
zovirljhosz use gaim to get on yahoo chat06:35
durtthat is the craziest language i have ever seen06:35
_eXoDuSDr_Willis: i think it should be possible in theory06:35
_eXoDuSbut maybe im missing something06:35
jhoszyes..06:35
x[trick] xmadali lang ba amg install ng ubundu??06:35
x[trick] xuser friendly ba>06:35
jhoszbasta may cd ka n internet06:35
jhoszi just burrowed mine06:36
x[trick] xpano ang office??06:36
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jhoszmay sarili sya n converter of office files06:36
x[trick] xnag d dl pa lang ako ng ubundu...06:36
lastnodei added ndiswrapper to some file so it'l load at startup06:36
lastnodenow i want to take it out06:36
lastnodei cant remember where though06:36
lastnodeanyone?06:36
durtlastnode: /etc/modules06:37
Dr_Willis_eXoDuS,  every time i tri the 64bit disrtos - i end up going bacl to the 32 bit ones...06:37
fujie2brussow: ive replied06:37
Dr_Willis_eXoDuS,  too many little annoyances06:37
lastnodedurt : thanks06:37
Cashel_eXoDuS: I dont know much about amd64, but to do that I believe itd require amd64 chips to include all of the same calls as an i386... which sounds doubtful to me...06:37
lastnodedurt, will that uninstall ndiswrapper totally?06:37
lastnodei might need it later on06:37
_eXoDuSCashel: huh? what do you mean?06:37
f34rdurt: its a Motorola USB11b06:37
_eXoDuSCashel: amd64 runs 32 bit code perfectly06:38
durtlastnode, just comment out the "ndiswrapper" line and if you want it later put it back in06:38
lastnodedurt, thanks man06:38
jhoszafk muna06:38
Cashel_eXoDuS: 32 bit code is one thing, but i386 system calls? It'll, for instance, run Windows 98 just fine?06:38
sproingieCashel: of course it does06:39
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_eXoDuSCashel: yes06:39
CashelOhh06:39
transgressoh wow i don't have to kill esd when playing dvd's on my lappy anymore06:39
mkyb14anyone know where they store the wallpapers in hoary? so i can add my new ones06:39
_eXoDuSCashel: im running winxp 32bit and ubuntu32 bit right now06:39
Cashelwell then you should be able to do it...06:39
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_eXoDuSi just want to know if there's a way to upgrade06:39
_eXoDuSwithout reinstalling06:39
_eXoDuSjust using apt-get :)06:39
transgress_eXoDuS: yes06:39
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transgress_eXoDuS: exchange in your /etc/apt/sources.list from hoary to breezy06:40
transgressif you see hoary... make it say breezy06:40
_eXoDuStransgress: im in breezy already06:40
transgresshow can you upgrade then?06:40
kevin06transgress, What do you find so appealing? Any signifigant changes over day to day use?06:40
sproingieCashel: in 32 bit mode, an amd64 basically *is* a 32 bit chip, and in fact can't switch to 64 bit that easily06:40
_eXoDuStransgress: i think you missed my original question :)06:40
_eXoDuStransgress: i want to upgrade from i386 ubuntu to amd6406:40
durtsudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:40
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transgresskevin06: it's a lot faster, umm... i don't have to use little hacks like killing esd to play mp3s... it runs a lot smoother overall... OOo2 is nice06:41
sproingieCashel: in 64 bit mode, it's actually doing something a bit more like emulation, at least as far as the kernel's concerned.  the app userspace sees a 32 bit cpu as far as i know06:41
nalioth_eXoDuS: not a good idea, you'll be losing functionality with the amd64 arch06:41
Cashelsproingie: ahhh...  I see.. if I were him I'd start over from scratch in that case... why screw with it?06:41
_eXoDuSnalioth: is it that bad still?06:41
Cashelohh so its not true 64 bit then? It's 32x2 ?06:41
sproingietho some 32 bit apps still choke on the arch if they try to get too clever06:41
_eXoDuSCashel: no, it's 64 bit06:41
_eXoDuSCashel: it just can run in "half" mode06:42
Cashelahhh06:42
_eXoDuSruns 32bit code in the 64 bit processor06:42
khermansAnyone have problems resizing partitions in the new Breezy?06:42
mkyb14anyone know where they store the wallpapers in hoary? so i can add my new ones06:42
khermansthis is on an IBM Thinkpad T42p06:42
_eXoDuSat 'almost' the same speed as a native 32 bit chip06:42
spockboycan anyone tell me how I should go about re-creating my initrd image in Ubuntu?06:42
sproingieCashel: it's true 32 bit in32 bit mode, 64 bit in 64 bit mode, it's just the kernel that has to do some funky stuff to switch between the two06:42
spockboyi have LVM on top of a RAID5 array, and I recently changed disk configurations so they are now on different bus locations, and ubuntu won't boot...06:42
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=== transgress uses pure 64bit... didn't set it up to run in half mode...
khermansthe Breezy partitioner just hangs06:42
transgressi don't like flash anyway06:42
Cashelsproingie: does the kernel handle it well?06:42
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sproingiei use 64 bit, but i run 32 bit firefox and some other stuff06:42
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durtf34r: i dont know what kind of chipset that has, so im not sure if that will work06:43
zovirlmkyb14: can't you just right-click on the desktop and choose "change desktop background" then click "add new"?06:43
_eXoDuSsproingie: did you do a clean install?06:43
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lastnodewhere can i get a list of ubuntu shortcuts?06:43
lastnodekeyboard shortcuts06:43
sproingieCashel: it works perfectly.  only app that didn't work out of the box was sbcl, and that had to do with some obscure change in kernel traps, not the emulation06:44
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mkyb14but does it use if from my desktop of does it copy the img to the wallpaper dir. cuz i'm gonna delete the folder on the desktop06:44
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transgressomg... gnome detects my keyboard shortcuts by default now?06:44
transgressso happy06:44
freezahey does anyone have a list of the repositories so that i can install the 2.6.12 kernel with synaptic?06:44
khermansHas anyone used the new automated Breezy installation partitioner06:44
sproingie_eXoDuS: i have 32 bit in a chroot ... not sure what you mean by "clean install"06:45
_eXoDuSsproingie: when you installed 64 bit06:45
sproingiein fact my chroot is still hoary06:45
Cashelmkyb14: the wallpapers can be anywhere, where the default ones are I have no idea...06:45
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_eXoDuSsproingie: im just wondering if i can upgrade my 32bit breezy to amd64 :)06:45
_eXoDuSwithout reinstalling06:45
mkyb14ok then anyone know how to make the terminal transparent?06:45
sproingiehoary with devfs, breezy with udev, that's gonna cause some pain06:45
durtfreeza, you oughta git breezy then06:45
zovirlmkyb14: I don't think it copies them06:45
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khermansmkyb14, Xorg transparency06:46
transgress_eXoDuS: i don't think so... i could be wrong... but i think that's kind of going the wrong direction... is there a big reason you wanna go 64bit?06:46
freezawell i dont want to upgrade fully to breezy yet06:46
mkyb14xorg?06:46
Cashelmkyb14: Edit > Current Profile > Effects06:46
_eXoDuStransgress: i got a 64 bit cpu :)06:46
_eXoDuSso why not? :)06:46
zovirlmkyb14: what I would do is just make a directory somewhere in your home directory and put all your wallpapers there06:46
freezabut i still need the new kernel to fix my double clock problem06:46
sproingie_eXoDuS: not likely possible -- debian doesn't really understand the idea of multiple architectures06:46
freezaand possibly fix the dma on my laptop06:46
transgress_eXoDuS: well in pure64 you can't use a lot of things... such as flash...06:46
mkyb14ok06:46
freezai have one with a turion64 and dma doesnt work06:46
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_eXoDuStransgress: but i can run the 32 bit version of some stuff, can't i?06:46
transgress_eXoDuS: but i mean i'm not discouraging ... just letting you know... i use amd64 myself.06:46
zovirlmkyb14: according to 'locate -i sparkle' the default wallpapers are in /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/06:47
khermansCashel, that not true transparency06:47
transgress_eXoDuS: with a bit of hacking yeah06:47
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transgress_eXoDuS: which removes a bit of the point at the same time06:47
freezaso all the forums have indicated that updating to 2.6.12 kernel will fix most of the things06:47
zovirlmkyb14: but again, easier to keep them in your home dir06:47
mkyb14you are god06:47
sproingie_eXoDuS: i run 64 bit because i also use xfs, just for the hell of it, and it's better with 64 bit native.  otherwise there really isn't much reason to switch06:47
durtfreeza, well i guess you could use the breezy repositories to just get the kernel06:47
khermansCashel, because ony the desktop shows06:47
Cashelkhermans: *shrug*06:47
_eXoDuSsproingie: xfs?06:47
Vaske_CarAnybody tried to install FREE Panda Antivirus on ubuntu - link > http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/linux.htm   ???????06:47
_eXoDuSsproingie: file system?06:47
durtfreeza: then change the repositories back06:47
freezadurt: where is the list for the breezy repositories?06:47
transgresshow is XFS?06:47
sproingie_eXoDuS: yes06:47
_eXoDuSah06:47
sproingietransgress: zippy06:47
transgressi've only used reiser and ext3 ... well and ext2 back in the day...06:47
_eXoDuSsproingie: and why is it better in 64bit mode/06:47
durtfreeza: ubuntuguide.org06:48
sproingie_eXoDuS: it's a 64 bit filesystem06:48
Cashelkhermans: its what he wanted...06:48
freezaok thanks06:48
_eXoDuSsproingie: oh really?06:48
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transgressi haven't noticed any major difference in reiser and ext306:48
sproingiereally?06:48
_eXoDuSsproingie: i've used xfs a lot in the past06:48
_eXoDuSsproingie: never knew it was a 64bit fs though06:48
khermanstransgress, i have -- reiserfs will not allow you to use selinux06:48
sproingiei have a box at work that runs the same apps on the same hardware, and the reiserfs box runs circles around the ext3 box with filesystem-intensive stuff06:49
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transgresskhermans: which i don't use anyway06:49
sproingiei can drop 100,000 files in a single directory in reiserfs, no slowdown at all06:49
sproingieext3 tends to bog after 10,000 files in a directory06:49
khermansreisefs doesnt have the file security bits that SE Linux requires06:49
transgressi've never had that many files to put in a single directory06:49
x[trick] xwhat inti virus can you recomment fot ubundu??06:49
transgressmaybe now that i'm running beagle i will though lol06:49
x[trick] xwhat inti virus can you recommend fod ubundu??06:49
transgressx[trick] x: linux doesn't have virii really06:49
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khermanstransgress, yes it does :-)06:50
transgresslinux is std free and needs no condom06:50
transgressnot really06:50
bimberix[trick] x: i don't use one, but there is clamav06:50
sproingietransgress: maildir spools will create lots of files06:50
Vaske_CarIs it big advantage to have 64Bit file server against 32Bit?06:50
x[trick] xlol@trans06:50
transgresssproingie: yeah we are having problems with that at work06:50
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durtsince when is ubuntu a penis?06:50
sproingieVaske_Car: not unless you need really big files.  even then, not really06:50
transgressit could be a vagina... don't be so chauvenistic06:50
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Cashelwell.. you can mount with it :)06:51
sproingiemy gf can climb up too06:51
durtdont be such a pussy :P06:51
Vaske_Carsproingie: so where 64Bit have advantage, for what kind of tasks??06:51
Casheltrue enough..06:51
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x[trick] xdamn i still have 11hrs to dl ubundu :(06:52
transgress11hrs?  you on dialup?06:52
x[trick] xdamn i still have 11hrs tofinish dl ubundu :(06:52
sproingieVaske_Car: for fileservers, there's really little difference.  for numerics it can be a big deal06:52
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x[trick] xdsl06:52
durtit would take 11 months on dialup06:52
transgressit's ubuntu for gods sake06:52
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transgressi downloaded photoshop at one point over dialup... left it on over night06:52
x[trick] xubuntu sorry06:52
windexcafuego, hey, you around? i can't get gok to work06:53
khermanstransgress, why you need photoshop?  get the GIMP06:53
transgresskhermans: this was way back in the day06:53
sproingiemostly i run 64 bit for the hell of it, even with the pain it sometimes entails06:53
transgressi haven't had dialup in years06:53
khermansi used to have netzero06:53
khermanshacked it to get unlimited free hours06:53
khermansbefore that i used gopher at school for the net06:53
transgressi set my friend up with netzero when they were still free06:53
khermansyeah, netzero is not ZERO anymore06:54
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khermansit should be like net20dollars06:54
sproingiespeaking of netzero, what's this netzero 3g they keep going on about?06:54
sproingieit's not actually cellular 3G is it?06:54
transgressi'm sure it's crap06:54
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transgresswhatever it is06:55
transgressit actually is equal to crap06:55
khermanssproingie, prolly for phone access06:55
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sproingiei'd love like crazy to have a 3g provider ... and phone of course06:55
khermansi use my minutes to get on the net from my verizon cell phone06:55
sproingietho i guess all i need is a new SIM for that06:55
lastnodewhat does this do? echo "alias ra0 rt2500" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rt250006:55
khermanshaha, you know how to hack a new SIM card?06:56
transgressif you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person?06:56
sproingiekhermans: presumably i'd get a new one with a new carrier06:56
naliothkhermans: #ubuntu-offtopic please06:56
khermansyou guys know how to unlock cell phones?06:56
khermanssorry06:56
x[trick] xsince were you are talkng about cell phones :) have your heard p950 of sony ericsson??06:57
transgressi recall before everyone and their mom used ubuntu, this channel had a lot more offtopic talk w/o fuss06:57
khermansif anyone has a verizon, i put together a tutorial for how to get online with it using Hoary06:57
transgressis it PPPoE?06:57
naliothtransgress: and so it has become more important to keep the channel on topic06:57
Dr_WillisMy Mom perfers FreeBSD :p06:57
khermanshttp://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers.php?action=viewarticle&artid=45006:57
transgressand khermans take the tut and make it a wiki06:57
spockboy*phew* its a _little_ bit quieter06:58
spockboycan anyone tell me how I should go about re-creating my initrd image in Ubuntu? :P06:58
sproingieDr_Willis: i love the hell out of freebsd, but linux loves my hardware a litle more06:58
Dr_Willissproingie,  :P06:58
Dr_Willis"man marries FreeBSD . on the Next Jenny Jones!"06:58
x[trick] xhmp.. im on my 34th% download progress06:59
x[trick] xlong long way to go...06:59
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x[trick] xi still have 11hrs and 40 mins to go :(06:59
durtkeep watching it and it will go faster07:00
sproingiegolly.  how much you wanna bet netzero 3G means 3 gigs of storage07:00
x[trick] xlol07:00
Cashel.... ohhhh baby your tcp/ip stack is sooo sexy07:00
sproingiehere i was thinking ... oh well, topic topic topic07:00
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x[trick] xjust in case.. after i installed ubuntu is there a possibility i might encounter a problem on my partition??07:01
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wolfieHi all new to linux and was wondering if you can how do you set a picture as the the desktop07:01
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bimberiwolfie: right-click on the desktop and select "Change Desktop Background"07:02
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Dr_Williswolfie,  this is when you may want to check out a 'using gnome' tutorial online. :P  (or try right clicking on the desktop and see the  menu items there)07:02
sproingieright-click the desktop.  if you know how to do it in windows, the interface is startlingly familiar07:02
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wolfiethanks07:02
freezaif you are dual booting linux and windows id suggest you use ntloader instead of lilo or grub in the mbr07:02
h4zn__were can i get themes?07:02
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Dr_Willisactualluy I need to track down a decent newbie guide to gnome for total novices.. for friends at work07:02
Dr_Willisany reccoemdations?07:02
freezaand if you are new to linux too07:02
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bimberiubotu tell h4zn__ about themes07:03
dtamasfreeza: why ntloader is better then grub?07:03
sproingiewindows won't blow away ntloader07:03
h4zn__thanks07:03
bimberih4zn__: yw :)07:03
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Dr_WillisI just use my machiens bios menu/setting to pick what hd to boot. :P easier07:03
bob2freeza: why?07:03
freezabecause if you are like me i tried a dozen distros before i settled on ubuntu07:04
freezaand by using ntloader everytime i formatted my linux partition i never risked breaking my windows partition07:04
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thewayofzenWhen installing ATI drivers following the ubuntuguide.org http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6527607:05
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thewayofzenhow do i go from the driver RPM to the source07:05
bob2if you break windows by installing linux, you did something wrong07:05
thewayofzenor what do i do with the rpm i guess07:05
bob2thewayofzen: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:05
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bob2thewayofzen: what was wrong with that giude?07:05
transgresshowever, it appears acpi still won't work on my lappy07:05
sproingientloader won't work if you format the partition the ntloader config is on07:05
sproingieso it's the same "problem" as grub07:05
thewayofzenbob2,  it says download the driver source in rpm format  and compile it07:05
bob2thewayofzen: no, the one I just pointed you at07:06
thewayofzenbob2,  i know how to compile when its ./configure && make && make install and so forth07:06
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freezano thats not true07:06
transgresswhen i tried using the gnome menu to hibernate and it just powered my computer down07:06
bob2thewayofzen: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:06
freezanot if ntloader is in the mbr07:06
thewayofzenbob2, didnt know it was there.. i started doing the ubuntu guide one.. im half way through07:06
freezatheway do an alien -d "rpm package"07:06
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pc06oi07:06
bob2thewayofzen: the one I gave you will get you going in the next 5 minutes07:06
freezathat turns the rpm into a .deb package07:07
pc06help07:07
bob2thewayofzen: and will survive ubuntu upgrades, etc07:07
pc06newbie lng me sa linux07:07
thewayofzenbob2,  but the one i was using had me delete the file fglrx.ko07:07
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sproingientldr is not happy if boot.ini is missing07:07
bob2pc06: you haven't asked a question07:07
pc06help07:07
thewayofzenbob2,  is taht gonna destroy me?07:07
pc06pls07:07
pc06ok07:07
freezano07:07
bob2thewayofzen: I wouls people wouldn't put crap like that on the forums :(07:07
freezatheway the one you are using is good07:07
pc06hw cn i use yahoo msnger in ubuntu????07:07
bob2thewayofzen: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)07:07
freezathats the same guide i used to install my ati drivers07:07
bob2pc06: use gaim, applications -> internet -> gaim07:08
thewayofzenbob2,  so i shouldnt follow the forums?07:08
freezaand it worked like a charm07:08
x[trick] xsince i had my dsl connetion using windows, i cant dcc send here in irc... is there a possiblity that it will work with ubuntu07:08
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x[trick] xsince i had my dsl connetion using windows, i cant dcc send here in irc... is there a possiblity that it will work with ubuntu?07:08
pc06ok tnx07:08
pc06i'll try07:08
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bob2thewayofzen: not in this case, unless you have a very particular reason07:08
thewayofzenbob2, im guessing "not to bug the #ubuntu guys when its in the forum already" doesnt apply here07:09
bob2x[trick] x: if your network is miscofigured such that DCC does not work from windows, it's unlikely to work from ubuntu, either07:09
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x[trick] x:(07:09
bob2thewayofzen: mmm, their method is just unneccessarily complicated and unsupported07:09
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thewayofzenbob2,  thanks for fixing me then.07:09
sproingiedcc is overrated.  guarantee that a number of clients have serious vulnerabilities in their implementation07:09
bob2thewayofzen: the url I gave you sets up the ubuntu-provided ati drivers, which will be upgraded and looked after by the ubuntu developers, instead of you ;)07:10
thewayofzenbob2,  that sounds PERFECT07:10
thewayofzenbookmarking for future reference07:10
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bob2thewayofzen: I'd generally advise following things on the wiki ahead of things in the forum07:10
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foampieceis there shockwave in linux?07:11
pc06cnt connect07:11
bimberifoampiece: no07:11
khermansShould an AMD64 chip running in 32-bit mode OS use linux-k7 ???07:11
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sproingiefoampiece: only flash.  not shockwave.07:11
pc06m using firefox to browse07:11
crimsunkevogod: sure07:11
crimsunkevogod: sorry07:11
crimsunkhermans: sure07:11
sproingiei thought shockwave was deprecated these days anyway07:11
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bob2khermans: yes07:11
foampiecewe dont support windows...07:11
pc06is there any way to use yahoo msngr???07:11
khermansjust wanted to make sure there was nothing wrong with that07:12
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foampiecewindows not supported here07:12
khermanspc06, use Gaim instead07:12
triggpc06: GAIM is good. :)07:12
bob2pc06: are you from that fillipino internet cafe?07:12
omppc06: what khermans said.. gaim is awesome07:12
pc06ah ok, how bout online games???? cn i use it here???07:12
foampiecebest user support os...ubuntu. bring it07:12
pc06ya07:12
pc06ok i'll try to configure07:13
omptrigg: it's not GAIM :)07:13
omptrigg: The two acceptable forms of capitalization are "Gaim" and "gaim" (and not "GAIM").07:13
omptrigg: from gaim faq :)07:13
triggomp: right. . . i'll be careful in the future . . .07:13
x[trick] xlol07:13
omptrigg: :D :)07:13
trigg:_07:13
trigg:-)07:13
ompso, how are you guys? :)07:13
x[trick] xwell it sounds like07:14
ompi haven't been active in this room for days07:14
khermansbob2, weird -- i dont see linux-k7 in Breezy07:14
pc06io, cn u help me pls07:14
triggkhermans: should be there, I'm running it. . .07:14
bob2khermans: it's there, in the restricted section07:14
bob2pc06: please stop being so annoying, or you'll have to leave07:14
khermanstrigg, i thought i saw it before i rebooted from 386 into 686 -- now i dont see it anymore07:14
bob2pc06: if english is hard for you, perhaps try #ubuntu-ph07:15
foampiecea loud voice thunders, i gave you linux and youve been stealing windows all these years?07:15
ompis breezy a big improvement over hoary?07:15
triggkhermans: like bob2 said, just make sure you have "restricted" in your sources.list07:15
Flonnekhermans, linux-image-k7 might be what you want.07:15
transgressomp: YES07:15
pc06ok tnx nway07:15
pc06bye07:15
khermansi have restricted07:15
ompi guess i'll set-up a partition for breezy when it is released07:15
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triggkhermans: here is the package name: linux-image-2.6.12-8-k707:16
bob2khermans: well, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood07:16
bob2I suspect you don't07:16
transgressomp: are you using hoary?07:16
bob2omp: not atm07:16
omptransgress: no07:16
transgressoh07:16
omptransgress: gentoo07:16
khermansno that was weird, i rebooted from my linux-386 machine into linux-686 and linux-k7 went missing from my repos07:16
ompi just like #ubuntu :)07:16
khermansi did an apt update, and now its back07:16
foampieceno wonder windows has more gaming api...its the most stolen piece of software. turns everyone into guilty theives. your guilty! delete windows. support linux!07:16
triggkhermans: amek sure you have this - deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted07:16
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khermanstrigg, yes i have that too07:17
triggkhermans: I mean this - deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted ;)07:17
khermansi have that too07:17
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triggkhermans: how about multivers and univers?07:17
triggkhermans: how about multivers and universe?07:17
khermansyep07:17
khermansits there now07:17
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khermansi have to aptupdate07:17
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khermansbut it somehow disappeared when i booted07:18
triggkhermans: do an apt-cache search k707:18
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khermanstrigg, yes it is there now07:18
khermansvery strange07:18
triggkhermans: yea! ;)07:18
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khermanshrm w32codecs is not there though07:18
rob^!codecs07:19
uboturumour has it, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:19
khermansit is virtual, and there is no candidate07:19
bob2khermans: /etc/apt/sources.list, #flood07:19
khermansbob2, this is in breezy07:19
triggkhermans: have to include hoary-extras or hoary-backports for that -- or use marilats repo07:19
naliothkhermans: www.mplayerhq.hu  on the downloads page07:19
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bimberi!info linux-k7 breezy07:19
ubotulinux-k7: (Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7.), section restricted/base, is optional. Version: 2.6.12.12 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB07:19
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khermanstrigg, are there official breezy-extras and breezy-backports yet07:20
transgressumm no07:20
transgresscan't really have backports for something still being updated07:21
khermanswell, breezy-extras07:21
triggkhermans: the skeleton base structure is there, but I don't think there will actually be any packages until breezy is 'stable'07:21
freezahey for compiling new kernel all i need are the kernel-image and kernel-headers files from the repos right?07:21
bob2freeza: no07:21
triggfreeza: nope --- install the tree07:21
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bob2freeza: why do you want to compile a new kernel?07:22
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freezaneed it to fix some issues07:22
freezalike the double clock on amd6407:22
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freezaand dma on my hard drive07:22
bur[n] eris anyone else's gnome-panel crashing like crazy or is this really just me with breezy?07:22
transgressbur[n] er: just you07:22
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bur[n] erbah, i was afraid of that07:23
triggfreeza: kernel-tree-2.6.XX07:23
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freezaahh ok and that should also download everything else i need?07:23
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durtuse xfce bur[n] er07:24
triggfreeza: yep, you might need to make a soft link to a "/usr/src/linux" dir, though07:24
transgressbur[n] er: could try moving gnome's config files07:24
bur[n] ermv ~/.gconf ~/.gconf-bak07:24
bur[n] eror more than just that transgress ?07:24
khermansIs it easy to get back to Gnome if I install Xfce 4 and dont like it?07:24
freezaohh yeah07:24
triggfreeza: like this: ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.XX-ubuntu... /usr/src/linux07:24
bur[n] erkhermans: definately07:24
transgressand the .ICEAUTHORITY or whatever ... isn't there a .gconf2?07:24
bur[n] erkhermans: just pick it in gdm07:24
transgressbut move them one at a time07:24
freezaahh ok07:25
bimberifreeza: btw it's linux-tree-2.6.1007:25
bur[n] ertransgress: all the files within that?07:25
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bur[n] erone at a time?!?!?07:25
bur[n] erthat's so many files ;)07:25
triggkhermans: as long as you are using GDM, then just pick your Session07:25
transgresswell if you really wanna be thorough do that... but i meant the directories07:25
crimsunkhermans: there's a Session menu in gdm. Just choose GNOME instead of Xfce07:25
khermansbur[n] er, is there a manual gdm editor?  or you mean edit it directly?07:25
bimberifreeza: for hoary that is07:25
rob^anyone know if webmin is secure enough to use on my server accessing webmin over the internet?07:25
transgressrob^: we do at work.07:26
transgressand haven't been hax0red in a while  (hehe i said hax0red)07:26
freezabimberi: im trying to install kernel 2.6.1207:26
rob^does it use ssl or the like?07:26
triggkhermans: when you are logging in, just pick the Sessions menu in the bottom left hand corner07:26
khermanstrigg, ahh yes, thx!07:26
bimberifreeza: ok, linux-tree-2.6.12 then07:26
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freezahopefully the new kernel will fix my dma and clock, and maybe acpi07:27
triggfreeza: from an apt-cache search linux-tree:  linux-tree-2.6.12 - Linux kernel tree for building prepackaged Ubuntu kernel images07:27
rob^transgress, is the command shell module any good?07:27
triggkhermans: no prob. :)07:27
freezaahh ok thanks07:28
triggfreeza: make sure you have kernel-package installed . . .07:28
transgressumm... i guess07:28
transgressit works07:28
bur[n] ertransgress: i still get a prompt for username and password on boot :\07:28
bur[n] ertransgress: after gnome loads rather... it looks like an old evolution account that i've since removed07:29
rob^might have a play with it and see how I go, thanks transgress07:29
freezaby downloading kernel-tree does synaptic also download kernel-package?07:29
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bur[n] eri moved .gconf .gconfd .ICE*07:29
bur[n] erand the .gnome*07:29
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bur[n] ertransgress: any other ideas?07:29
transgressherm07:30
transgressi thought you were trying to stop the panel from crashing?07:30
bur[n] ertransgress: i am07:30
bur[n] eri think this username & password prompt is related07:30
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transgressherm07:30
bimberifreeza: no07:30
bur[n] erthe username password prompt is tied to gnome-panel07:30
bur[n] erno idea how or where07:30
transgressdid it still load your default stuff like your background?07:30
bur[n] ernope... i have the plain old ubuntu orangey one07:31
bur[n] erand no desktop icons07:31
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transgressbur[n] er: try moving .evolution07:31
bur[n] erer... no computer or trash anyway07:31
bur[n] erI rm -rf'ed .evolution07:31
bur[n] er&& apt-get remove --purge evolution*07:31
freezaok so download kernel-tree and kernel-package, anything else?07:31
bur[n] erand still no dice07:31
transgresshmm07:31
bur[n] erthat's how i feel about it :\07:32
triggfreeza: should be okay then .. . actually make sure you install build-essential07:32
bimberifreeza: will you be apt-getting these things?07:32
freezaim using synatic07:32
bimberifreeza: ah, ok, nvm :)07:32
transgressmv .* /stuff07:32
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transgress^ that's for the really desperate bur[n] er07:33
bur[n] ertransgress: worth a shot :) ;)07:33
transgressbur[n] er: wait07:33
transgressbur[n] er: don't do that as root... be careful with it... because i've seen that screw some stuff up due to .. being part of .*07:33
bur[n] erno worries07:34
bur[n] eri know how to get it back if need be07:34
transgressk07:34
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bur[n] erwell that did it transgress :)  now to move back the files directory by directory till i find this :)07:35
bur[n] ercan't believe I didn't think of that07:35
transgresswoot07:36
transgressglad it's fixed... well start with those first four... the gconf and stuff07:36
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freezadamnit07:39
Ashenyo07:41
triggfreeza: do you have a problem, or is it just a general kind of dammit . . .07:41
transgressoh woot... using /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh works07:41
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Ashenanyone know how to get the terminal in the right click menu of breezy07:41
Ashen?07:41
transgressthat makes me so freaking happy07:41
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bur[n] ertransgress: thanks again... sometimes irc helps a brain fart07:41
freezaok this is weird, when i thought i only had to download kernel-image, kernel-header, and linux-header i did it through synaptic and just finished downloading and installing and it added a boot option in my grub config for the new kernel. but i didnt download linux-tree, so does that mean if i reboot and try to boot into new kernel image it will be broken?07:41
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bur[n] erAshen: with a nautilus script07:41
transgressbur[n] er: anytime.  pretty sure you've helped me in here before.07:42
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bur[n] er:)07:42
freezaim looking at my new grub config right and it looks like its right07:42
_chris_anyone familiar with apt-proxy and want to help me?07:43
trigg freeza: in order to install new kernel, you don't need linux-tree, but if you want to custom compile, then you do . . .07:44
freezaahh ok07:44
Ashenkewl... anyone know how to get the web style location bar back into nautilus in breezy?07:44
Ashen:)07:44
freezawell doesnt synaptic do a custom compile anyway?07:44
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nalioths_dogfreeza, no itdoes not07:44
freezacuz this is what my grub menu.lst now says07:45
triggfreeza: no.  you would have to do that manually.07:45
freezatitle           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-8-amd64-k8 Default07:45
freezaahh ok07:45
triggfreeza: there are a few "custom" kernels via synaptic (e.g. 686, K7, etc. . .)07:45
freezayeah i downloaded the k807:45
freezaok i see07:46
triggfreeza: yeah, whatever works.  The only custom compile I "did" was when hoary had the 2 minute delay because of the KT400 chipset07:46
transgressamd64-k8 ... what is that now?07:46
freezaso im ok but if i wanted to recompile the new kernel again i should just get kernel-tree anyway?07:46
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triggfreeza: yep... there is a wiki page on how to actually do it. . .07:46
freezaahh ok ic07:47
freezaamd64-k8 is single cpu athlon6407:47
transgressah i see07:47
freezatheres amd64-smp07:47
transgressi should get that i suppose07:47
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freezaamong others07:47
dduckoI have a question, matter of Opinion i think.. currently I am on a cable connection, with linksys router.. I am the only connection on it07:47
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dduckowould it be better to just remove it07:47
transgressno07:48
freezatheres actually a lot of diff 64bit ones07:48
neilcdoes anyone know of cvsup packages for 5.10?07:48
dduckoif i wanted to run a webserver or a ftp server07:48
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thewayofzencompletely uneffective :(07:48
transgressdducko: no... just configure the router.  it's a form of protection07:48
bob2neilc: cvsup is dead07:48
bob2neilc: since it's written in a language no one cares about07:48
transgresslong live subversion eh?07:48
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transgresswhat was cvsup written in?07:48
bob2subversion is also kinda crap07:48
neilcbob2: heh, i know :( hence the difficulty of finding packages...07:48
windexbob2: pascal? cobol? asm?07:48
bob2transgress: modula-307:48
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transgressbuh what?07:49
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bob2it's a descendant of pascal07:49
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transgressah i see07:49
triggfreeza: though it is pretty easy. . .  cd /usr/src ; sudo make oldconfig; make menuconfig (change stuff you want) ; sudo make-kpkg --append-to-version=custom kernel07:49
windexbob2, wow. that's on the list of languages i don't care about enough to list as a language i don't care about!07:49
bob2neilc: it doesn't even build on moderm systems07:49
transgressinteresting to know07:49
neilcbob2: but the project i'm trying to sync with isn't planning to change any time soon...07:49
bob2windex: haha07:49
windexbob2, it's right up there with 'lisp'!07:49
neilcwindex: ugh, lisp is still (very) relevant07:49
freezaahh ok07:50
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triggfreeza: that last command should be: make-kpkg --append-to-versio=custom kernel_image07:50
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neilcwindex: modula-3 on the other hand sucks07:50
windex<307:50
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windexi knew i'd get at least one.07:50
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triggfreezaL I mean -- make-kpkg --append-to-versio=custom kernel_image07:50
triggfreezaL I mean -- make-kpkg --append-to-version=custom kernel_image07:50
freezawell i might have to custom compile anyway if my dma and clock isnt fixed07:50
triggfreeza: too much wine . . . blame the wife07:50
bob2neilc: best bet would be to try to find debian packages of it from a couple of years ago07:50
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triggfreeza: have you tried hdparm?07:51
windexanyway, ubuntu related: I got ubuntu to install on my Fujitsu Stylistic ST5010 Tablet PC. Everything works except screen rotation and memorystick reader.07:51
freezahehe07:51
freezayeah07:51
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neilcbob2: thanks, i'll try that07:51
todd_i just installed ubuntu 5.10 about 10 mins and i have no sound.  i went into alsamixer and turned everything up.  am i missing something?07:51
bob2neilc: http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/net/cvsup07:51
freezaive tried every single thing on the ubuntu forums07:51
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windexIt took effort, though.07:51
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bob2neilc: it may not run, tho07:51
triggfreeza:  well, that is definitely a pain . . . are you using SATA?07:51
windexand i guess screen rotation can work if you back down to using a fbcon driver.07:51
_chris_how can I force apt to get all the debs that are installed and put them in the cache dir once I've deleted them?07:51
windexbut that's not 3d accelerated!07:52
windex:)07:52
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windexbedtime. >.>07:52
freezastill keep getting an operation not permitted when i try to enable dma07:52
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freezai dunno, its on a laptop07:52
chickboiecei >>07:52
freezaacer travelmate 4400 with turion6407:52
Dr_Willisfreeza,  bingo.. been there done that...07:52
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chickboiecneed help how can i install yahoo msg?07:52
Dr_Willisfreeza,  GOOD Luck! :P you will need it.07:52
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triggfreeza: try using "sudo hdparm /dev/hda1"  (or whatever hdX partition you need)07:53
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bob2_chris_: for i in $(dpkg --get-selections |grep install$ | awk '{print $1}') ; do sudo apt-get install --reinstall -d $i ; done07:53
Dr_Willisfreeza,  got a compaq V2311 turion64 here.07:53
freezadid you get yours working willis?07:53
bob2xargs would be more efficient07:53
freezayeah07:53
deFryskchickboiec, you dont want that ugly thing, use gaim07:53
freezawhen i do that i get the operation not permitted07:53
chickboiechow can i install it defrysk?07:53
Dr_Willisnot under ubuntu.. the thing Barely worked un der most disrtos. BUT i did have some success with it under the latest Knoppix 4.0 live dvd07:53
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freezaahh07:53
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chickboiecim here in the phil and i think my custumer doesnt know how 2 use it?07:54
Dr_Willisfreeza,  - i think theres some kernel 'fix's' in the works  to address some issues with that cpu07:54
freezawell whats weird is that the dma shouldnt have nothing todo with the kernel07:54
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triggfeeza: weird . . . I don't use amd64, I am still on an old XP 2600, so I am not sure if there are issues with hdparm and amd6207:54
todd_i just installed ubuntu 5.10 about 10 mins and i have no sound.  i went into alsamixer and turned everything up.  am i missing something?07:55
Dr_Willisits the fact its a Turion64 :P theres some little changes I hear.07:55
deFryskchickboiec, http://messenger.yahoo.com/ on the right side something about howto in debian  linux , use that howto07:55
bob2yes07:55
triggfreeza: probably a motherboard issue.07:55
deFryskchickboiec, again ugly uglu limited07:55
Dr_Willisfreeza,  i was able to enable dma for the hd on knoppix4.0 - but when i enabled dma for the cdrom - thw whole box would lockup. :)07:55
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triggfreeza: I had tons of problems with my GA-7VAXP before 2.6.07:55
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Dr_Willisbut ive been skimming all sorts of message boards for many other disrtos on this cpu and - thers been some very interesting 'issues' :P07:56
freezawell i used the -X69 command in hdparm to enable udma5 and it did it but dont really know if dma is actually working07:56
neighborleetodd_, maybe you need to unmute something....make sure your  sound is enabled in : Systems > preferences > sound07:56
triggfreeza: you could always do an: hdparm -t -T /dev/whatever, then turn it off and try it again and compare results07:57
todd_everything seems to be enabled07:57
freezaactually willis suse 9.3 also enabled dma on my laptop but i had screen issues with it so couldnt use it07:57
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chickboiecis it posible ? 2 use it defrysk?07:57
freezai did07:57
freezano change really07:57
deFryskchickboiec, sure07:57
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triggfreeza: then I guess it isn't working ;s07:58
neighborleetodd_, does running : lspci in console show sound card ?07:58
bob2todd_: define "doesn't work"07:58
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chickboiecdefrysk im just going to follow the instruction ?07:58
bob2todd_: does "pkill esd ; cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" make horrible scratching noises?07:58
triggfreeza: ok, the wife is calling me to bed, good luck all.07:58
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deFryskchickboiec, download http://download.yahoo.com/dl/unix/ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb07:59
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freezaok thanks trigg07:59
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todd_hmm...lspci doesnt list it07:59
deFryskchickboiec, sudo dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb07:59
intelikeyfor a text file i need a command that will remove linefeed before each line beginning with blank space ?    sed <blah>   maybe ?07:59
Dr_Willisfreeza,  heh - i had mine where the system clock was running 2x as fast as it should.. I mean the actual "time" shown in the task bar clock was zipping by at over 2x normal speed. :P07:59
freezayeah08:00
Dr_Willisfreeza,  and the keyboard repeate was set to like 100000 keys a sec. :p08:00
Dr_Willisand numerous other issues.08:00
deFryskchickboiec, and run ymessenger08:00
chickboiecdefry where can i find it i hope uwould ber with me08:00
chickboiecok ill try08:00
freezai found a forum post on that for ubuntu08:00
Dr_WillisBut heck - this was a $500 laptop.08:00
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freezaand they said the fix was just get kernel 2.6.1208:00
todd_when i type "pkill esd ; cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" i hear nothing08:00
freezafor the double clock08:00
Dr_Willisfreeza,  yea - i posted a few msgs to the fiorume -  i aint checked on them lately. SIlly formus search tools are a little annoying.08:00
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freezaits easy fix they say08:01
freezajust add one command lemme find it08:01
chickboiecits said @ defrysk i should log in as root how can i do it?08:01
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cafuego_trigger_ph: hdparm works fine on the amd64 here (insofar as the once device that uses ide is concerned, the rest is sata)08:01
chestyI'm trying to install a package through cfengine, I get an error "/var/lib/dpkg/info/nullmailer.postinst: line 31: 3: Bad file descriptor" I guess I've got to do something with fd:3, but what?08:01
deFryskchickboiec, did you download it ?08:01
chickboiecyes08:01
chickboiecits already finish08:01
deFryskchickboiec, sudo dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb08:01
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chickboiecyeah08:02
deFryskdid that ?08:02
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chickboiecim finish download ymessnger08:02
deFrysknow intall as I said08:02
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chickboiecwhere will i type the root thing no idea with it?08:03
ubuntu_is it possible to establish an x window ssh tunnel with ubantu live?08:03
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deFryskchickboiec, no root , use what I said08:03
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cafuego_uyes.08:03
deFryskchickboiec, use sudo08:03
bob2ubuntu_: sure08:03
maeany good alternative to dia?08:03
deFryskchickboiec, your username pass is your sudo pass08:03
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ubuntu_I'm trying ssh -X name@hostname08:03
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todd_weird, because i used hoary before this install and all i had to do was unmute the aux in alsamixer08:03
ubuntu_is there more to it than that?08:03
Dr_Williswell night all.. good luck on the Turion64 issues. :P08:03
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_chris_bob2: your script makes me hit yes a million times;)08:04
cafuego_ubuntu_ 'hostname' must have the X11Forward option enabled in /etc/ssh/sshd_config08:04
transgresshey what's the easiest way to switch from using kdm to gdm?08:04
deFryskchickboiec, no need to become root08:04
bob2cafuego_: apt-get -y ...08:04
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freezajust add no_timer_check in the Start Default Options section in your menu.lst08:04
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cafuego_transgress: vi /etc/X11/default-display-manager08:05
deFrysktransgress, uninstall kdm08:05
freezaand that should fix the double clock08:05
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cafuego_bob2: Your script makes me hit tab a million times...08:05
ColonelKernelim bored. I want to compile something.08:05
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transgressthanks cafuego_08:05
bob2haha08:05
transgressrebooting now08:05
deFrysktransgress, it automaticly swithes to gdm then (if its installed)08:05
_chris_bob2: -y fixed it;)08:05
cafuego_ColonelKernel: try openoffice.org 208:05
ColonelKernelooooo thank you08:06
chickboiec@ defry im just going to type? sudo?08:06
yarddogdoes ubuntu use xorg or xfree?08:06
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deFryskchickboiec, sudo dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb08:06
chickboiecwht specific phrase should i type08:06
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crimsunyarddog: Hoary and Breezy both use X.org08:06
chickboiecin the root?08:06
cafuego_ColonelKernel: If nothing else, it'll keep you busy for the next few days08:06
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yarddogthx08:06
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crimsunyarddog: Warty uses XFree8608:06
transgressdeFrysk: yes but i like keeping it around08:06
yarddogk08:06
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p0y2elo08:07
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chickboiecwhere will i type it @ defry?08:07
ColonelKerneli could try out xmame too08:07
deFrysktransgress, check out cafuego's way :)08:07
ColonelKernelI miss playing marvel vs capcom08:07
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cafuego_Sheesh,  linux-image-2.6.12-8-amd64-generic uses *70MB* of disk space?08:07
transgressdeFrysk: i did08:07
p0y2elo08:07
cafuego_That's nearly as much as a source tree :-P08:07
deFryskTraceGreen, I have a tendency to remove anything beginning with a k ;p08:07
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deFryskstupid AUTOCOMPLETE :S08:08
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freezaok time for reboot08:08
chickboiecdpkg: error processing ymessenger_1.0.4_1.i386.deb (--install):08:08
chickboiec cannot access archive: No such file or directory08:08
chickboiecErrors were encountered while processing:08:08
chickboiec ymessenger_1.0.4_1.i386.deb08:08
chickboiecroot@ubuntu:/home/user #08:08
deFryskand stupid capslock08:08
deFryskchickboiec, cd Destop08:09
chickboiecnoob08:09
chickboiechow?08:09
deFryskchickboiec, as I said08:09
deFryskchickboiec, cd Destop08:09
deFryskand then try again08:09
chickboiecwat will i d?08:09
deFryskDesktop that is sorry08:09
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deFryskcd = got to08:09
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deFryskgo to08:09
chickboiecah ok08:09
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deFryskchickboiec, if you downloaded it with fireox its prob in your desktop08:10
chickboiecroot@ubuntu:/home/user # cd destop08:10
chickboiecbash: cd: destop: No such file or directory08:10
chickboiecerror again08:10
todd_i guess ill just reinstall breezy08:10
deFryskcd Desktop08:10
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chickboiecim a total gerk08:10
deFryskchickboiec, capital D08:10
tech_hello08:10
bluefoxicychickboiec:  why do you want ymessenger08:11
chickboiecwow08:11
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maeany dia alternative?08:11
chickboiecim here in the phil.08:11
chickboiecall people here use ym08:11
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bluefoxicychickboiec:  it's not like it has video camera or anything, just point gaim at yahoo08:11
chickboiecthe eula thing is all oer the pls08:11
bluefoxicyapplications->internet-> gaim instant messenger08:11
chickboiec?? how can i do that?08:11
trixhello08:11
bluefoxicychickboiec:  add the account for the yahoo name you want to sign on as?  :P08:11
deFryskchickboiec, I already told you earlyer to use gaim08:12
chickboiecis it posible08:12
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deFryskyes08:12
chickboiechow can i do that?08:12
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chickboiecwaaaahh08:12
cafuego_i can't install gaim-vv help help!08:12
chickboiecsilly me08:12
freezayay08:12
freezait works08:12
chickboieccan u help to do that08:12
freezawillis u still there?08:12
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bluefoxicysomeone help him set up gaim, i'm going to sleep.08:12
chickboiecwhere will i go ?08:12
deFryskchickboiec, open gaim08:12
trixi need help too08:12
chickboieci havent tye the gaim thing08:12
chickboiecwait08:12
deFrysknono08:12
deFryskits in the menue08:12
chickboiecits open08:13
chickboiecwhere can i add?08:13
deFryskapplications internet messenger08:13
chickboieciv seen it08:13
cafuego_chickboiec: start gaim. Add an account, choose 'Yahoo' from the protocol list.08:13
er4z0rre08:13
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bluefoxicyyou have to set protocol to Yahoo, enter your screen name, password, check "auto login" and 'remember password'08:13
chickboiecden08:13
bluefoxicyand you're good to go.08:13
deFryskcafuego, thanks I need a break :s08:13
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kaelisra^^;;08:14
deFryskhavent even had coffee jet08:14
chickboiecwow08:14
er4z0rcan anybody tell me how I have to set up my box so that rootmail is delivered to user on an other system?08:14
chickboiecim happi08:14
kaelisraUmm.. can anyone help me with my sound problem?08:14
bluefoxicyit worked?08:14
chickboiecim login right now08:14
bluefoxicygot your buddy list and all?08:14
chickboiecthank to all you08:14
bluefoxicyYou can get on AIM and everything too at the same time08:14
dduckoWould someone be willing to connect to my Website to see if its working.08:14
bluefoxicyTools->accounts08:14
chickboiecneed more help08:14
x[trick] xis there a yahoo msgr for linux for multi user?08:14
chickboiecis it posible to install ragnarok herE?08:15
bluefoxicyno08:15
er4z0rkaelisra: maybe someone can. State your problem ;)08:15
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cafuego_deFrysk: Run for the coffee!08:15
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deFryskcafuego, Race!!08:15
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trixhow can i add a hdd?08:15
kaelisrathankies, well, i'm not entirely sure, as yet, what's wrong. breezy solved the fact that the driver wasn't there, but..  still, no sound, whatsoever08:15
chickboiecdefrysk is posible to install my cam a@ gaim?>08:15
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bluefoxicyx[trick] x: use gaim08:15
thewayofzenwell.. i give up.08:15
deFryskchickboiec, sorry08:15
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todd_im having the same prob08:15
er4z0rtrix: add it to what?08:15
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chickboiecah ok08:15
cafuego_chickboiec: No, gaim doesn't have video support (yet)08:16
chickboiecah ok08:16
trixto my system08:16
Somada141do you guys know how to install an Live version of LInux like Knoppix on your hdd?08:16
chickboiecmay be after a year ?08:16
er4z0rkaelisra: what kinda sound-device?08:16
thewayofzenive tried installing that driver four times from that page and everytime my x wont start up08:16
bluefoxicyprobably in a year to a year and a half08:16
cafuego_chickboiec: There isa  new project, which isn't packaged yet, which will have it.08:16
marc^ive got a good one: ERROR: debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)08:16
kaelisraits.. a hda intel08:16
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marc^while installing08:16
er4z0rtrix: you need to edit /etc/fstab08:16
bluefoxicycafuego:  don't package gaim-vv08:16
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chickboiechow about onligames like ragnarok online is it possible08:16
transgressokay it's hanging on my desktop at checking battery state08:17
transgresshow can i disable that?08:17
trixmy problem is i am  a former windows user i migrate to ubuntu08:17
er4z0rtrix: try man fstab08:17
bluefoxicycafuego:  it's experimental and when it's ready it will be merged back into gaim.08:17
transgressafter the breezy upgrade/reboot08:17
crimsunkaelisra: ''tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''08:17
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chickboiecis it posible? cafuego and defrysk?08:17
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kaelisraalrighty.08:17
er4z0rtrix: and now you want your win-partitions?08:17
Yawgmoth7Grrrrrrrrr08:17
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bluefoxicycafuego:  it has to be a linux program.08:17
deFryskchickboiec, nope maybe in the future08:17
transgressand where is the linux-k7 package for breezy?  in restricted?  because i have thatenabled but i don't see it08:17
bluefoxicycafuego:  if it's windows it doesn't run.08:17
kaelisraMixers:08:17
kaelisra0: Realtek ALC88008:17
cafuego_bluefoxicy: oic, right after e17 releases, 5 minutes after the inevitable heat death of the universe?08:17
crimsunkaelisra: ahh crap.08:18
trixyes all my files are in that hdd08:18
kaelisracrimsun, hm?08:18
chickboiecah ic08:18
bluefoxicycafuego: lol08:18
er4z0rkaelisra: umm didnt u say it was intel?08:18
crimsunkaelisra: #1503108:18
trixyes all my files are in that hdd08:18
kaelisrait is.08:18
bluefoxicycafuego:  gaim-vv was forked by the gaim developers and is a side project run by the gaim developers because implementing the vv changes is intrusive and breaks shit08:18
er4z0rtrix:  no problem08:18
cafuego_transgressl: linux-image-2.6.12-8-k7?08:18
kaelisrabut, it uses realtek, for some reasson08:18
trixwhat shall i do?08:18
deFryskchickboiec, whats that ?08:19
Yawgmoth7So somebody told me that if i get the error Kernel Panic - Not Syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs or uknown block(0,0)that something messed up my kernel, so i tried figuring out how to fix it by booting up with hte ubuntu installing CD and i could figure it out. Any help is appriciated08:19
chickboiec@ defrysk ? wht is the purpose of the "wine" thing08:19
trixwhat shall i do08:19
cafuego_bluefoxicy: Yeah, i iamgine video support would warrant a complete overhaul.08:19
kaelisracrimsun, what did you say? i just get a letter, and numbers08:19
chickboiecwhts the use of the wine?08:19
transgresscafuego_: yes08:19
bluefoxicycafuego:  it's like an "experimental" branch, like i.e. Gimp 1.3 was, except that it's only work on a feature that will take a while to develop08:19
deFryskchickboiec, that to get some winapps to run in a windowslike environment in linux08:19
transgresscafuego_: also, at startup where it says checking battery state... it hangs... any clue how to fix that?08:19
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er4z0rtrix: thou shalt answer my query ;)08:19
marc^anyone have an idea?08:19
deFryskchickboiec, my advise is to stay away from it as a newbie08:20
chickboiecah ic08:20
cafuego_transgress: Probably an acpi thing, enable acpi or disable it.08:20
chickboiecok08:20
chickboieci have a shop08:20
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bluefoxicycafuego:  The gaim devs work in mysterious ways.  :o  Also protocols like AIM and YIM and MSN with camera support are being altered, do you see a problem with breaking these?  :)08:20
chickboiecand my income derive from it08:20
trixwhat??, i'm only newbee user08:20
chickboiecim afraid that people wont be comming here at my cafe08:20
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transgresscafuego_: k.  i don't really need that since it isn't a laptop08:20
deFryskcafe ?08:20
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crimsunkaelisra: bugzilla#1503108:21
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x[trick] xcafe <<<<< internet shop08:21
kaelisraah, i see.08:21
crimsunkaelisra: the ALC880 is a complete headache08:21
Yawgmoth7Could anybody point me in the right direction as to how to fix the problem i have, im sure that i can just do it from hte boot disk9I read that from googling the error) but i didnt explain what to actually do08:21
kaelisra*nods*08:21
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cafuego_ transgress: See whatever package is doing that and uninstall it.08:21
satafterhwhen is Breezy due to come out08:21
chickboiecyeah @ defray08:21
trixhelp08:21
Somada141do you guys know how to install an Live version of LInux like Knoppix on your hdd?08:22
deFryskchickboiec, I can list you in my directory if that helps08:22
kaelisracrimsun,  strange thing is, it has always claimed it was a intel high definition audio sound card.08:22
deFrysktalk about ot08:22
crimsunkaelisra: it is.08:22
chickboiecok08:22
er4z0rtrix: ok, ok no problem08:22
kaelisracrimsun, oh, ok.08:22
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aehoSomada141, some live-cd:s have installers08:22
er4z0rtrix: what kind of drives do you have? IDE or SCSI?08:22
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trixi'm lost08:22
crimsunkaelisra: there seems to be very, very screwed up interaction between what the BIOS is reporting for the actual registers and what the driver can detect08:22
kaelisra*nods*08:23
crimsunkaelisra: as you can read in #1503108:23
chickboiec@ wht d u mean by adding me to your directory?08:23
Somada141but knoppix just puts in and doesn't ask you if you want to install or not08:23
trixIDE08:23
deFryskchickboiec, better pm me for info and stuff , dont want to spam here08:23
chickboiecsoryy 2tol noob08:23
satafterhany one know a good dvd authoring software08:23
chickboiecok08:23
kaelisraerm.. where can i find it? ^^;;08:23
Somada141is there some command or sth?08:23
chickboiechow can i pm?08:23
nalioths_dogsatafterh, dvdauthor?08:23
crimsunkaelisra: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1503108:23
kaelisrathanbks08:23
kaelisra*thanks08:23
transgresshow do i disable acpi at boot?  just rm the rc file?08:23
satafterhthanks will try iy08:23
x[trick] xif i install ubuntu.. do i need a startup disk like in windows??08:23
deFryskchickboiec, /msg deFrysk08:23
Yawgmoth7How could i go about repairing a kernel08:23
er4z0rtrix: ok, then. And how many drives do you have. Respectively on which drive are your winpartitions?08:23
crimsuntransgress: boot with either apci=off or pci=noacpi08:24
kaelisraheh. not the kernel panic, as well... >.<08:24
nalioths_dogx[trick] x, only if you want to be xta[tricky] x08:24
glickYawgmoth7, what do you mean "Repairing the kernel"?08:24
kaelisrai had that happen to me, for a bit.08:24
Yawgmoth7WEll08:24
Yawgmoth7I wrote my problem up there08:24
transgresscrimsun: do i add that to the grub menu.lst?08:24
Yawgmoth7Hold on for a second08:24
crimsunkaelisra: well, the kernel panic has been resolved, but the amp channels are causing a problem; they're basically throwing the init into an infinite loop08:24
Yawgmoth7So somebody told me that if i get the error Kernel Panic - Not Syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs or uknown block(0,0)that something messed up my kernel, so i tried figuring out how to fix it by booting up with hte ubuntu installing CD and i could figure it out. Any help is appriciated08:24
kaelisraah, ok.08:24
Yawgmoth7There08:24
trixi have 2 hdd, the 1st hdd is my ubuntu, 2nd is the winpartitions08:24
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crimsuntransgress: yes, for #kopts=08:25
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Yawgmoth7Yep08:26
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kaelisracrimsun, thanks, anyways, for the help.08:26
trixi have 2 hdd, the 1st hdd is my ubuntu, 2nd is the winpartitions08:26
transgresscrimsun: would it just be kopts=acpi=off ?08:27
er4z0rtrix: ok try: sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb/08:27
er4z0rtrix: without last slash08:27
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crimsuntransgress: sure. make sure you ''sudo update-grub'' afterward08:27
trixok i will try it08:28
marc^"debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)"08:28
transgresscrimsun: but like do i need the root=/dev/hda1 ro stuff?08:28
marc^fails while installing base files08:28
er4z0rtrix: not sitting in front of it right now?08:28
crimsuntransgress: absolutely08:28
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crimsuntransgress: just append the apci=off08:28
myk3hey08:28
transgresscrimsun: k just making sure08:28
ranjanhi08:28
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myk3when i try to run dvd decrypter i cant see the drive08:29
myk3i did the tut on the fourms08:29
myk3with wine08:29
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AndieBHi all!08:29
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yong_rivshi08:29
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linuxphantommxrsup08:29
pluffsyhello08:29
myk3can someone help?08:29
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obsrvI don't like Ubuntu for this reason: there is a lot of packages that are out of date!08:29
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obsrvFor example amaroK and Konversation08:30
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obsrvthey are always not up to date08:30
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AndieBI'm having problem with FireFox and "cursing" slow DNS resolving (I suppose). Takes aweful long time to get a DNS resolve... I think... anyone got any idea?08:30
broscoHI08:30
crimsunobsrv: there's no choice; we have to freeze main at some point for rigorous testing.08:30
broscoHI08:30
linuxphantommxrwhat is everyone's favorite Linux ???08:30
broscoGO08:30
naliothobsrv: you are only gonna get razor edge pkgs using gentoo or lfs08:30
naliothobsrv: with any large distro, you're gonna be behind the edge08:31
pajamahi, I want to synchronize my laptop to a directory in my workstation. I've heard rsync is the tool to use, but I don't know how to make it ork08:31
obsrvnalioth that's why I use gentoo08:31
yong_rivsnick yong_rivs08:31
yong_rivs[uy08:31
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pluffsyI'm trying to follow the RestrictedFormats howto but I'm failing. I added the repository in the howto but synaptic says: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-extras_main_binary-powerpc_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)08:31
er4z0rtrix: still alive?08:31
pluffsyany ideas what's wrong?08:31
naliothpluffsy: you using breezy?08:31
obsrvnalioth, so you say this is normal? I think you have a lack of package contributors08:31
yong_rivsyyi08:32
pluffsynalioth: no hoary08:32
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naliothpluffsy: perhaps the server is down atm08:32
Somada141STUPID QUESTION : Can i install the ubuntu packages on other Linux e.g Mandriva?08:32
crimsunobsrv: main has a much higher regression bar than universe or multiverse08:32
linuxphantommxrany other flavor of linux better fpr beginner than Ubuntu?08:33
naliothobsrv: if you have nothing to contribute, please leave. ubuntu is what it is.08:33
crimsunobsrv: and yes, we suffer from a massive workforce "lack" - less than two dozen maintainers for over 15000 packages? I'd say so.08:33
bimberiSomada141: no08:33
yong_rivsnickname08:33
x[trick] xcan i used my nero in burning cd?08:33
naliothSomada141: the pkgs should be available for those distros using their tools08:33
AndieBAnyone who can help me out with speeding up a DNS resolvning? Using a Wireless connection (D-Link AirPlus DWL-G650 and Netgear accesspoint/router).08:33
obsrvwell gentoo has 20800 packages and they are allways up to date08:33
Somada141i found some packages but there aren't in .deb format08:33
naliothx[trick] x: use gnomebaker, graveman or k3b08:33
obsrvand there is always bleeding edge packages08:33
cafuego_Somada141: Simple answer: no. Correct answer: yes, but you will need to convert them and there will be problems running them.08:33
Somada141oh08:34
obsrvnalioth, I like Ubuntu as a distro, but fot this reason I don't use it08:34
naliothobsrv: let us continue in #ubuntu-offtopic, please08:34
crimsunobsrv: that's wonderful, but the build system depends on the user's config. We have quite a few other things to contend with.08:34
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yong_rivssurigao08:35
pluffsynalioth: ahh it's not always me doing something wrong. now it seems to work with no changes, guess they just restarted or something. thanks.08:35
naliothpluffsy: yes, usually it's network diffeculties08:35
bimberipajama: not an answer but an alternative to have a look at - unison08:35
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yong_rivscebu08:35
pajamabimberi: do you think unison is easier to use than rsync?08:36
x[trick] xso that means that when ubuntu starts runing as my OS all the software that i used on my windows will be neglected?? am i right?08:36
Somada141One last thing : does each Linux distibution support a different format of packages?08:36
myk3anyone use dvd shrink and decrypter in linux?08:36
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myk3useing wine?08:36
yong_rivs#surigao08:36
chickboiecroot@ubuntu:/home/user/Desktop # sudo dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1.i386.deb08:36
chickboiecdpkg: error processing ymessenger_1.0.4_1.i386.deb (--install):08:36
chickboiec cannot access archive: No such file or directory08:36
chickboiecErrors were encountered while processing:08:36
chickboiec ymessenger_1.0.4_1.i386.deb08:36
chickboiechow 2 fix08:36
bimberipajama: i have found it so, others may differ08:36
silvertonymessenger?  yahoo messenger?  like, an official release?08:36
cafuego_Somada141: There are really only three formats, all distros support (use) one of these formats. Due to software versions and dependencies, packages may not be interchangeable between the distros, though.08:37
chickboiecnope i need 2 instll08:37
naliothchickboiec: dont paste in here, please, use #flood or a pastebin08:37
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chickboiechow 2 do it08:37
silvertonwtf?  logged in as root and using sudo??08:37
chickboiecsorry for the disturbance? im new user08:37
nalioth!tell x[trick] x about equivelants08:37
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pajamabimberi: thanks, I'll give it a try08:38
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chickboiecwt will i type to log as sudo in the terminal?08:38
bimberipajama: yw :)08:38
AndieBSomewhere I ought to change a config file for Synaptic Package Manger? It doens't connect to the internet to verify if there are new packages, anyone got a solution for me?08:38
No1Viking!tell me about equivelants08:38
naliothwhat is the trigger for windows equivelants?08:38
glynwhat does the kernel source look like and where can I find it?08:38
No1Viking!tell me about equivalents08:39
glynit's not in /usr/src08:39
[Chameleon] glyn: kernel.org08:39
myk3anyone use dvd shrink in ubuntu08:39
naliothx[trick] x: http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html08:39
myk3????08:39
naliothNo1Viking: read above08:39
[Chameleon] nalioth: equivalents08:39
x[trick] xthanks nalioth :)08:39
nalioth[Chameleon] : it didnt work for me08:40
glynYou mean Ubuntu doesn't come with a kernel?08:40
bob2of course it does08:40
naliothglyn: of course it does08:40
[Chameleon] nalioth: note the spelling. you mis-spelled it.08:40
bob2glyn: it doesn't come with kernel source by default, tho08:40
cafuego_glyn: it wouldn't boot if it didn't, so clearly it does.08:40
bob2glyn: since end users don't need it08:40
[Chameleon] bob2: usually they don't08:40
glynwell what do I do if I need a kernel source?08:40
[Chameleon] glyn: install the package08:40
cafuego_glyn: You install it, of course.08:40
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bob2glyn: why do you think you need the kernel source?08:41
naliothChambers-: i privmsg'd the bot and spelled it wrong FOUR times?08:41
bob2chickboiec: yes, ymessenger is broken, don't use it08:41
cafuego_bob2: rememebr the captive ntfs issue from earlier today?08:41
chickboiec@ bob208:41
som1is there something diffrent on the mutt ubuntu package?08:41
glynI want to compile a kernel08:41
bob2wtf08:41
cafuego_som1: different from what?08:41
som1i cant login to my email08:41
bob2glyn: you do not need to compile a kernel to use captive ntfs08:41
glynI can't figure out how else to get it to work08:42
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glynit tells me to run install-acquire and I do and it gives me an error and some site said that if you have problems you need to compile a kernel08:42
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goweehi08:43
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xuniluserHELP: where can i find resources on how to create a disto out of ubuntu containing the apps that i like..08:44
cafuego_glyn: "Some site" is wrong, then08:44
bob2xuniluser: you googled and really found nothing?08:44
som1cafuego, is it using something else for imaps?08:44
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cafuego_glyn: You *may* need to compile a module for the current kernel, but thast's easily done without building the whole kernel.08:44
bob2xuniluser: launchpad will eventually be useful for that08:44
glynHow would I compile the module?08:44
holycowanyone here run mythtv with a pvr250?08:44
cafuego_som1: You may need the crypto libraries...08:45
som1oh.08:45
cafuego_hmm08:45
chickboiecneed help again how can i install online games what are the requiremnts08:45
bob2chickboiec: "online games"? e.g.?08:46
cafuego_som1: well, the apckage descriptions claims it supports imaps08:46
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som1chickboiec, graphic acceleration usually08:46
som1yes it supports imap but it sends the password plain08:46
som1:-)08:46
som1imaps*08:46
Madpilotchickboiec: Enemy Territory plays well, as (I've heard) does America's Army - and they're both free...08:46
cafuego_som1: Ok, you need the sasl2 libs for cram md5 support08:46
cafuego_som1: if it uses ssl, it CANNOT send the pass plain; it's an encrypted socket.08:47
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Somada141How do i install from source files (tar.gz,tar.bz2) without having a connection????08:47
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cafuego_som1: ie: the connection is created, secured, and THEN data moves.08:47
bob2Somada141: what are you trying to install?08:47
Somada141i want to install gnome commander but i don't have Internet home08:47
Uchihadoes anyone know for sure if ubuntu would detect the modem in my mac mini?08:48
bob2it's ingnome-commander - File manager for GNOME08:48
bob2gnome-commander - File manager for GNOME08:48
bob2bah08:48
Somada141i want to get the source files here and install them home08:48
bob2Uchiha: nothing on google?08:48
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som1ok.. never mind ty08:48
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TokenBadhow reset inetd in ubuntu?08:48
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bob2TokenBad: I told you already08:49
Uchihahmm08:49
cafuego_TokenBad; /etc/init.d/inetd reload (or restart)08:49
bob2sudo invoke-rc.d inetd restart08:49
TokenBadI did that08:49
Uchihais that a no?08:49
cafuego_or 'sudo killall -1 inetd'08:49
TokenBadbut its not working or something08:49
xuniluserbob2: if a downloaded a .deb file and installed it in ubuntu, will it be the same as using apt-get?08:49
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TokenBadinetd: no process killed08:49
bob2xuniluser: no08:49
TokenBadget that if doo the killall08:49
bob2xuniluser: apt-get would automatically get the dependencies for you08:50
xuniluserbob2: even if the .deb file is the latest?08:50
No1VikingAnybody installed Firefox 1.5 beta in Hoary?08:50
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bob2TokenBad: perhaps it's not running then08:50
bob2No1Viking: yes08:50
TokenBadhow start it then?08:50
bob2TokenBad: what are you trying to do?08:50
cafuego_TokenBad: It's not running then. Check /var/log/syslog for errros about config file formats etc08:50
No1Vikingbob2: Is it OK?08:50
marc^"debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)" < failed while installing base system08:50
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bob2No1Viking: works fine, just don't put it in /usr/bin or anything08:50
bob2marc^: is the CD ok?  what was the rest of the error?08:51
xuniluserbob2: that's one of the comments of  my officemates regarding ubuntu. so how can i make my ubuntu updated if i don't have internet connection?08:51
TokenBadbob2 its for ftp server08:51
xuniluserbob2: can i do that offline?08:51
bob2TokenBad: which one?08:51
marc^it said check var/log/messages for more details08:51
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TokenBadglftpd08:51
bob2xuniluser: use apt-zip08:51
marc^but that folder was empty08:51
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bob2marc^: no, it said something else08:51
x[trick] xim just wondering?? im a windows user.. i just want to know how will i format my  hdd? and how will i start installing ubuntu??08:52
marc^im pretty sure that was it08:52
xuniluserbob2: hmmmm ok i'll read first about that... btw what is the difference with that versus apt-get08:52
bob2x[trick] x: you boot the cd and follow the instructions08:52
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bob2x[trick] x: it gets packages for apt-ge to use locally08:53
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Uchihadoes hoary hedgehog use kde or gnome by default?08:53
glynhow do I check my IP address from the terminal?08:53
after8ifconfig08:53
bob2Uchiha: gnome, of course08:53
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bob2glyn: depends08:53
bob2if you're behind NAT, ifconfig wpon't help08:53
Myrtti*yawn*08:53
glynI'm trying to get a remote connection with my friend08:53
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freezahas anyone upgraded to gnome 2.12 using the breezy repos?08:54
Uchihathanks: bob208:54
x[trick] xim currently downloading the 386-iso... will this be work after i format?08:54
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Uchihasuch a release exists?08:54
bob2glyn: if you're behind nat, that won't help08:54
naliothfreeza: you'll need to upgrade to breezy for 2.1208:54
bob2freeza: partial upgrades are not a good idea unles you really know what you are doing08:54
marc^ill try downloading again08:54
UchihaI hadn't known of a release beyonf 2.1008:54
bob2marc^: just check the CD itself08:55
bob2x[trick] x: what sort of computer do you have?08:55
marc^physically or the files?08:55
Uchihabob2: what if I like to use KDE08:55
bob2marc^: the contents of the CD08:55
bob2Uchiha: then use kubuntu08:55
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x[trick] xamd 1 gig built in lan, video, sound08:55
bob2or suse or whatever08:55
Uchiha???08:55
bob2x[trick] x: so, an athlon? i386 is ifne then.08:55
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x[trick] xi have a dsl conection... dont your think i will encounter porblem??08:55
dansfloydso kubuntu uses the KDE interface?08:55
naliothUchiha: kde is available08:55
marc^y08:56
silvertondansfloyd, yes08:56
Uchihaok, I'll look into that08:56
x[trick] xim using duron08:56
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after8Uchiha> ubuntu has gnome b default, if you want kde and you have the ubuntu CD, you can install the kubuntu-desktop package08:56
bob2x[trick] x: no08:56
Uchihaok08:56
dansfloydi like gnome better :)08:56
x[trick] xwhat you mean bob??08:56
marc^bob2: what am i looking for on the cd, 9 folders and 3 files08:56
Uchihais there anything like apt-get or portage for ubuntu?08:56
after8!start a desktop war08:56
ubotucde is much better than xfce!08:56
TokenBadbob2 Its for glftpd08:56
inthenowhow do you change aim colors etc?08:56
bob2marc^: boot it into expert mode, select "verify cd" or whatever08:57
UchihaYum, possibly?08:57
bob2x[trick] x: no I do not think you will have problems08:57
bob2Uchiha: apt-get, of course08:57
bob2Uchiha: it's based on Debian08:57
Uchihaoh08:57
x[trick] xok...08:57
bob2TokenBad: I wouldn't bother using that08:57
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marc^im on win atm, cant get it running, but here goes08:57
UchihaI like debian!!!08:57
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UchihaThat's even better08:57
UchihaI'm getting ubuntu for sure08:57
inthenowbreezy is pretty good once you figure out how to install it08:57
x[trick] xso i'll just burn the installer on a cd after i download.. then i'll just format my c:\08:58
after8Uchiha> ubuntu is debian, sort of.... its based on it anyway08:58
Uchihais it hard to do or something?08:58
dansfloydim still a new to linux... so if i set myself in the sodu group, does that give me all access?08:58
[Chameleon] inthenow: uhh figure it out? All I had to do was boot the CD and proceed to install.08:58
TokenBadbob2, what would you suggest then?08:58
bob2TokenBad: vsftpd08:58
inthenow[Chameleon] : it has problems08:58
after8dansfloyd> the first user on install will be a sudo enabled user anyway08:58
bob2dansfloyd: the first user by default is in a group that gives them full sudo access, yes08:58
[Chameleon] inthenow: hmm... OK. I'll have to take your word for it.08:58
Uchihadansfloyd: you have to be in the sudoers file08:59
dansfloydwell when i first logged in it kept telling me that i didnt have access to my root folder08:59
inthenow[Chameleon] : not like any system is perfect. just ran into problems with the partitioning08:59
Uchihaok08:59
dansfloydi was the first and only user08:59
Uchihayou can get in ther if you use su.08:59
after8bob2> breezy & nvidia..... you were right, man ;)   long live "nv"09:00
chickboiecneed help09:00
chickboiecuser@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo dkpg -i ymessenger_1-1.0.4_1_i386.deb09:00
chickboiecPassword:09:00
chickboiecsudo: dkpg: command not found09:00
chickboiecuser@ubuntu:~/Desktop$09:00
inthenowwhat breezy and nv?09:00
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inthenowwhat about ?09:00
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Uchihadansfloyd: check the sudoers file.09:00
Uchiha/etc/sudoers09:00
TokenBadbob2, can install that through apt-get?09:00
after8chickboiec> 1. dont paste...   2. dpkg not dkpg09:00
crimsunTokenBad: yes09:01
bob2TokenBad: sure09:01
xuniluserHELP: what is the difference between the three kernels included in the Hoary distro (fox x86)09:01
bob2Uchiha: you don't need to add people to the sudoers file09:01
chickboiecok09:01
inthenowafter8: what about breezy nv?09:01
bob2xuniluser: just use the default09:01
after8inthenow> its a bit touchy, breezy with nvidia..... i suspect because the binary drivers complain about the version of gcc used to compile the kernel etc...09:01
dansfloydhmmm i dont see the sudoers file?????09:01
after8dans /etc/sudoers ??09:02
dansfloydnevermond09:02
Uchihabob2: I didn't know that, thanks for clarifying09:02
dansfloyd:D09:02
bob2dansfloyd: you don't need to touch it09:02
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Uchiha???09:02
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crimsunafter8: (that could be worked around by installing gcc-3.4 and gcc-3.4-base)09:02
mushtaqhi i want to install ubuntu but my cdrom is not work is it possible to install from the iso image on my hard drive ?09:03
UchihaI said that because I remembered having to do it for some reason.09:03
mushtaqany link to the tutorial please ......09:03
bob2mushtaq: how would you boot the installer in that case?09:03
after8crimsun> i'm still a bit newb around the edges ;)09:03
mushtaqfloppy09:03
mushtaqif possible ?09:03
Uchihaum09:03
dansfloydexternal drive?09:03
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dansfloydif you can boot from USB09:03
mushtaqnope dont have poor09:03
chickboieci change now!09:03
Uchihayou can get a floppy boot disk image that will let you boot from the cdrom09:04
after8mushtaq> i'd buy a new cd drive... or borrow one.09:04
dansfloydyeah09:04
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aetheramorning everyone09:04
bob2mushtaq: you can, it's not simple tho09:04
aetheraI am doing a vmware installation09:04
fredforfaenmorning09:04
chickboiecmy friend asking fo my brother for something09:04
mushtaqafter8, you are good person but i need to know if it is possible or no ?09:04
mushtaqbob2, no probls09:04
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TokenBadbob2, does it allow people to fxp into you?09:04
chickboieche said that for DOWN PAYMENT09:04
mushtaqbob2, any tutorial ?09:04
aetherajust wanted to know why I dont have 2.6.8 kernel source in my repositry09:04
inthenowi realized how destructive pirating software has been in my life I was stealing windows and everything else but now that im not I dont support it either which is good and i feel much better.09:04
dansfloydso... whos seen the Final Fantasy VII movie?? :D09:04
kairu0openoffice question: is the launch delay in openoffice 2 beta better than openoffice stable?09:05
aetheradansfloyd: very very cool movie09:05
Uchihamushtaq: or download sbootmanager from a slackware mirror.09:05
bob2TokenBad: I've never met anyone who wanted FXP who wasn't involved in the warez scene09:05
dansfloydyeah09:05
Uchihait's a floppy image that lets you boot from the cd rom09:05
mushtaqUchiha, what is that ?09:05
bob2aethera: because 2.6.8 is humourlys old09:05
chickboiecdo you know the skyhigh09:05
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icc6any body care to chat09:05
aetherabob2: but should you still not have it in the repositry?09:05
mushtaqUchiha, I dont have cdrom09:05
aetheraicc6: hello09:05
after8aethera> you looking for the kernel-source package????09:05
jack-bob2: fxp is useful, even for people who dont deal with warez09:06
chickboiecIM SASUKE!!09:06
Uchihaoh09:06
bob2aethera: why would you want to have old kernels there?09:06
fredforfaenhi icc609:06
bob2jack-: what for?09:06
after8aethera> try linux-source09:06
dansfloyd1 more question... how do i install skype?09:06
aetheraits a developer machine09:06
UchihaI thought you said you had one just that it didn't work09:06
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dansfloydlike i said... im a linux newb09:06
mushtaqUchiha, i need to boot from floppy and use iso is it possible ?09:06
inthenownow i support linux...and not only am i adding to things the way they should be, im no longer a theif.09:06
aetheradansfloyd: the guide tells you09:06
after8dansfloyd> go to their site and get the repository09:06
jack-example: for sending stuff to my mac without touching it, with a client running on my ubuntu pc09:06
chickboieci dont know do you teach me how?09:06
chickboiecok09:06
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chickboiecthen what09:06
Uchihamushtaq: no09:06
bob2jack-: then use rsync and ssh09:06
mushtaqUchiha, ok09:07
chickboiecthat is all that i do to do that thing09:07
bob2jack-: I can think of no situation where FXP is the best solution09:07
aetheradansfloyd: ubuntuguide.org09:07
jack-too complicated. and the source is a ftpd09:07
Uchihamushtaq: install it on a friends computer using one of your hard drive...09:07
aetheravery nice stuff on there to install09:07
Uchihathen09:07
jack-so fxp is the most comfortable solution09:07
aetheraanyone ripped gnome out of ubuntu?09:07
Uchihamushtaq: make an image of the hard drive09:07
dansfloyddo i get the debian package?09:07
chickboiecjust go on my internet cafe to see it!09:07
bob2aethera: yes, it's simple09:07
after8dansfloyd> yes. add the rep to your sources.list, update and install09:07
mushtaqUchiha, yes taht is what i am asking09:07
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Uchihamushtaq: copy the image from that hard drive onto the hard drive in your system09:07
chickboieco.O09:07
chickboiec^_^09:08
aetherabob2: I know it might be simple09:08
Uchihamushtaq: and you're done09:08
bob2aethera: remove libgtk2.009:08
mushtaqUchiha, once i copy or download the image then ? howto run that09:08
chickboiecit isnt!!09:08
bob2aethera: but that's probably not what you want, so you need to define "remove gnome" more strictly09:08
mushtaqUchiha, i mean the cd image i copied on the hard drive how to run that09:08
chickboiecicc6 quit09:09
chickboiecwhy?09:09
Uchihamushtaq: you can't09:09
Uchihamushtaq: it has to be booted09:09
mushtaqi can boot from debian floppy09:09
mushtaqUchiha, i can boot from debian floppy09:09
Uchihamushtaq: the cd contains a linux system of its own that installs the operating system09:09
aetherabob2: can I see a screen shot of your desktop?09:09
dreumahhello i was wondering how i can add programs to the menu09:09
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chickboiecit might be so slow09:09
dreumahin gnome09:09
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Uchihamushtaq: yes09:10
deFryskchickboiec, ots dpkg not dkpg09:10
Uchihamushtaq: but then you couldn't run the installer on the iso09:10
deFryskits*09:10
mushtaqUchiha, i boot from the debian floppy and then i can see the image what next to do ?09:10
bob2aethera: it's the default gnome with 10 desktops of xterms, one of firefox and one of emacs09:10
mushtaqUchiha,  how to run that ?09:10
bob2aethera: and a lot less brown09:10
dreumahhello i was wondering how i can add programs to the menu09:10
Uchihamushtaq: you can't run an iso09:10
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mushtaqUchiha, then what i need to run ?09:11
Uchihamushtaq: it has to be burnt to a cd and booted09:11
deFryskdreumah, get smeg09:11
dreumahfrom synaptics09:11
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inthenowis ubuntu fully sympatico dsl capable?09:11
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mushtaqUchiha, sigh......09:11
deFryskdreumah, in hoary right ?09:11
chickboiec???09:11
dreumahyeah09:11
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chickboiechack//sign09:11
deFrysk!tell dreumah about smeg09:11
mushtaqUchiha, any other option to run debian ?09:11
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mushtaqUchiha,  i mean ubuntu09:11
user_*** i need help!!! ***09:12
chickboiecwhy?09:12
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mushtaqUchiha, what are the option which can be used to install09:12
dreumahi looked for it in the package manager but its not there09:12
Uchihamushtaq: not that I know of, I'm new to ubuntu09:12
chickboiecnasan09:12
TokenBadbob2 how restart vsftpd after editing conf file?09:12
user_*** what is the default admin account for ubuntu ***09:12
deFryskdreumah, you got a message from obuto telling you where to look09:12
mushtaqUchiha, oh ok09:12
Uchihamushtaq: nothing that I know of, I'm new to ubuntu09:12
mushtaqthanks for telling09:12
deFryskubotu*09:12
bob2TokenBad: if it runs from inetd, you don't need to restart it09:12
Uchihamushtaq: besides cd09:13
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TokenBadthink it was set to run standalone by defualt09:13
dreumahhow do i install it though?09:13
user_*** HELP : what is the default Admin account for Ubuntu ***09:13
user_*** HELP : what is the default Admin account for Ubuntu ***09:13
user_*** HELP : what is the default Admin account for Ubuntu ***09:13
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user_*** HELP : what is the default Admin account for Ubuntu ***09:13
user_*** HELP : what is the default Admin account for Ubuntu ***09:13
user_*** HELP : what is the default Admin account for Ubuntu ***09:13
aetheraban please?09:13
bob2user_: you will be banned if you ever do that again09:13
fredforfaendont spam user_ !09:13
bob2and it will not be lifted09:13
user_sorry09:14
aetherabob2: so whats your day job?09:14
user_just trying to take attention...09:14
aethera<b>test</b>09:14
deFryskuser_, you are just trying to get banned09:14
aetheralol09:14
user_:(09:14
aetheramy html tags for irssi is not working09:14
bob2aethera: nothing09:14
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silvertonuser_, people will just ignore you when you do that :P09:14
pluffsyhi09:14
bob2user_: no, you're being utterly obnoxious09:14
user_so anyone, do you know?09:14
rob^!sudo09:14
TokenBadbob2, think its set by defualt to be standalone09:14
ubotuI heard sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo09:14
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bob2user_: that is never acceptable, anyway09:14
silvertonuser_, there is no default pass for root, you do everything by sudo09:14
bob2user_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo09:15
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bob2user_: what's worse is that the installer explained EXACTLY how to do this, and it's in the FAQ09:15
deFryskthat enough attention for user_ I think for today09:15
chickboiecwhat is lack of license warranty09:15
pluffsyI have a hardware dvd decoder. do you think there is any chance that will work under ubuntu? It was visible in that hardware overview gui if that says anything.09:15
aetherawhats a nice wallpaper changer for linux?09:15
user_sorry, im new to linux thing09:15
aetheralike winwall09:15
user_so dummy...09:15
chickboieclicence for copyright licence and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .09:16
pluffsybecause the 400Mhz G3 cpu isn't enough for realtime dvd decoding it seems.'09:16
chickboiecwhat does it mean?09:16
bob2user_: this is not about being new, this is about being obnoxious09:16
deFryskuser_, being new does not mean you can get away with everything09:16
user_can a non-admin account do thing configuration?09:16
bob2chickboiec: it means you get no warranty with GPL'd software09:16
chickboiecdefrysk wht does dis mean09:16
chickboiecah ic09:16
chickboiecdo i have 2pay09:16
bob2chickboiec: for GPL software? very rarely.09:16
chickboiecah ic09:16
chickboiecwhere do i get 1?09:17
chickboiecits for yahoomessenger09:17
chickboiecwhy i cannot install it T_T09:17
xuniluserHow do i mount a filesystem "OnTrackDM6"?09:17
user_im using the account w/c was created frfom installing ubuntu09:17
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dreumahhow do i instal smeg09:18
dreumah??09:18
bob2chickboiec: it's crap, ignore it09:18
bob2chickboiec: just use gaim09:18
deFryskchickboiec, you did sudo dkpg ist sudo dpkg09:18
bob2dreumah: /msg ubotu smeg09:18
bob2user_: you're being too vague09:18
bob2user_: tell us exactly what you're trying to do09:19
pluffsybob2: do you have any idea if hardware dvd decoders usually are supported in linux or rarely? (btw what is that gui app called that displays a hardware overview, I would like to install it)09:19
after8user_> read what sudo is for.09:19
bob2xuniluser: that sounds like some sort of crappy software RAID09:19
bob2pluffsy: don't think they are, but decoding mpeg-2 is not *that* cpu-intensive09:19
dreumahi have no response, i take it its not a bot09:19
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bob2aethera: I am available for rent, tho09:19
aetherabob2: you have anything against software raid?09:19
deFrysk!smeg09:19
ubotusmeg is probably a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.09:19
bob2dreumah: it is09:19
deFryskgot that dreumah ?09:19
oceandeadargh09:19
aetherabob2: why did you say that?09:19
dreumahits not replying09:20
bob2aethera: no, software raid is fine; I have something against shitty promise and sil "hardware" raid that require kernel drivers09:20
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dreumah /msg ubotu smeg09:20
pluffsybob2: it does skip a lot here. don't know if I can configure it better to get it smoother? (400MHz G3, 192MB RAM. any chance?)09:20
rob^that smeg entry is rong09:20
inthenowwhen you use a major isp email account then cancel with them...Can someone else inherit your email address and get your mail?09:20
rob^+w09:20
bob2pluffsy: ah, using xv is all I can think of, sorry09:20
ompaulI just booted User interaction required!09:20
ompaulA new version of the Linux kernel has just been installed. yada yada = please reboot - surely this be a bug?09:20
bob2inthenow: sure, eventually they'll let someone else have it09:20
after8inthenow> depends if it is a good isp or not...09:20
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pluffsybob2: xvvlc? or do you mean skipping gnome for something lighter?09:21
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after8ompaul> breezy?09:21
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dreumahyes yes that i have,  but now i dont know... i downloaded the package but dont know what to do now09:21
ompaulaye09:21
aetherabob2: why did you say you are not for rent09:21
oceandeadi have same specs but my problem is always wmv's (surprise) - audio and vid dont always sync09:21
ompaulafter8, yeap09:21
after8and gnome?09:21
oceandeadmpg fine though09:21
after8yeah it did that for me too..... after i rebOOted09:21
bob2pluffsy: using Xvideo for output09:21
after8oceandead> use mencoder :)09:22
bob2aethera: I said I am for rent, in reference to you asking what I did09:22
after8oceandead> i converted muchas divx with it to avi/mp309:22
aetherabob2: can I pm?09:22
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bob2aethera: ok09:22
jack-The following packages have unmet dependencies:09:22
jack-  smeg: Depends: python-xdg (>= 0.14) but 0.9-1 is to be installed09:22
jack-but!09:22
bob2yay backports09:22
bob2it's your birthday09:23
mushtaqwhat are the different ways to install debian ?is it possible to install via hard drive09:23
after8lol09:23
jack-python-xdg is already the newest version.09:23
naliothjack-: use the install script on the smeg homepage09:23
jack-and now? :<09:23
oceandeadafter8 thanks for the tip - i will definitely do that for ahem "long" wmvs - unfortunately shorter clips wouldnt be worth the effort?09:23
chickboieclibgdk-pixbuf2  how 2 install dis?09:23
mushtaqwhat are the different ways to install ubuntu ?is it possible to install via hard drive09:23
pluffsybob2: you mean the default in Multimedia Systems Selector, Output "XWindows (X11/XShm/Xv)"09:23
dreumahi must be a fool, 3 months away from linux and i have forgotten everything09:23
jack-nalioth: ok, but i'd love to keep my apt shit in sync..09:23
mushtaqnalioth, i need help09:23
naliothjack-: i'm sorry i dont quite understand09:23
naliothmushtaq: ask me something09:24
mushtaqi want to know how to install ubuntu via image09:24
after8dreumah> apt-get install acquired-knowledge :D09:24
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ompaulwhy is this "sudo cat >> /etc/apt/sources.list" gives "bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied [I last asked this 7 hours ago :)] 09:24
jack-nalioth: i wonder how i could get apt to solve that version mismatch09:24
mushtaqnalioth, via cd image on the hard drive09:24
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naliothjack-: are you using breezy or hoary?09:24
jack-hoary09:24
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aeolistdoes anybody know how to edit the search engine menu in firefox, in order to remove some of the engines?09:24
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bob2pluffsy: well, it's program specific09:24
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shey_16hi09:25
naliothmushtaq: you'll need to learn how to make a bootable medium (usb memory stick, floppy, or cdrom)09:25
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naliothmushtaq: to load a minimal kernal, mount your image and go from there09:25
mushtaqnalioth, if i have the bootable floppy then ?09:25
dreumahhow do i install a deb package again?09:25
shey_16hi09:25
shey_16ho09:25
mushtaqnalioth, where is the minimum kernel ?09:25
dreumahdkpg something right09:25
naliothdreumah: dpkg -i file.deb09:26
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naliothmushtaq: i am not privy to exactly how to do it.  i DO know it can be done.  Educate yourself09:26
ompauldreumah, before you do that - where did you get the file, if it was a debian repo - maybe it is not for your system09:26
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Gavrilahi there has anyone got problems with yesterday xorg update?09:26
mushtaqnalioth, ok thanks takecare ;)09:26
oceandeadlots of updates recently - gettin prepared for the upgrade?09:27
shey_16hiu09:27
ompaulGavrila, b/h - breezy here and no problems09:27
dreumahi got it from the site the bot gave me09:27
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oceandeadhavent restarted x yet09:27
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jack-sup shey_1609:27
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oceandeadbut no09:27
pluffsybob2: alright... btw you don't know the name of the application that shows what kind of hardware you have? I had to make a server install so I don't have it. I thought I could google for the name of the dvd encoder, just to see if I find anything09:27
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oceandeadnothing yet09:27
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ompauloceandead, no, they are not there for the upgrade - they are there because of various issues09:27
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shey_16hi09:28
jack-shey_16: sup09:28
Kromonoshi09:28
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jack-do you just love saying hi and ho and stuff?09:28
bob2pluffsy: lspci will show you what pci cards you have, but that's not very helpful09:28
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Gavrilaompaul, since yesterday my laptop in X seems really blurry... the whole image09:28
ompauloceandead, providing you are talking hoary, if breezy its the 'last call to fix problems'09:28
puskom_carii can't acces my floppy disk help me pls..... how can it happen09:28
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ompaulGavrila, which is it hoary, breezy?09:29
Gavrilaompaul,  yes breezy09:29
after8puskom_cari> have you tried sudo mount /media/floppy ?09:29
pluffsybob2: it was a gnome gui application that like showed my usb ports, harddrives, etc.09:29
dreumahok09:29
ompaulGavrila, well there are new files since 10 hours ago09:29
oceandeadim excited for release - cant wait for it -up grade didnt go so good but colony 3 fresh install went well09:29
ompaulGavrila, well there are new files since 8 hours ago sorry09:29
Gavrilaompaul, yes I'm referring to them09:29
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bob2pluffsy: device manager, I guess09:30
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dreumahit checked dependancies but the python-xdg does  not comply09:30
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bob2I don't think it shows any useful information you can't get elsewhere, tho09:30
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StarryskyI seem to have a problem extract .rar files. I already checked ubuntu.rog forum ... but even installing "unp" app didn't solve the problem, for as it seem unp runs the unrar command, which for some reason way beyond me doesn't do jack. Here's the output i get:09:30
Starryskyunrar: invalid archive 'x': Bad address09:30
StarryskyUsage: unrar [OPTION...]  ARCHIVE [FILE...]  [DESTINATION] 09:30
StarryskyTry `unrar --help' or `unrar --usage' for more information.09:30
StarryskyCKY-An_Answer_Can_Be_Found-(Retail)-2005.part08.rar - unknown extension, checking with "file"09:30
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oceandeadack whats with the paste09:31
kemikStarrysky:  you need unrar-nonfree09:31
oceandead#flood09:31
pluffsybob2: I just wanted it to see the name of the dvd encoder, I know it's there09:31
bob2Starrysky: that's kinda useless without showing us the command line you ran09:31
Starryskysorry for the flood then09:31
pluffsybob2: and thanks :)09:31
bob2pluffsy: lspci, then09:31
ompaulGavrila, have you (A) this sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (B) got a nvidia or some such?09:31
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Starryskyin that case : unp .rar archieve09:31
kemikStarrysky:  or try the correct switch.. "unrar e package.rar"09:31
bob2Starrysky: that's completely wrong09:31
Starryskynormally unrar *.rar ./ or whatever09:31
bob2unrar x blah.rar09:32
Gavrilaompaul,  no I've got ati, but why should I reconfigure the package? it used to work fine09:32
Red_Bulletwhen i log on in my proofile its tell you have new mail how to read mail09:32
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oceandeadmailx09:32
bob2Red_Bullet: "mutt"09:32
shey_16hgi09:32
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ompaulGavrila, my thinking is simply rule that out, blurry screens usually have to do with refresh rates and cards09:33
Starryskybob2 i believe you are mistaken, besides unp surely knows how to run the command better then you (unrar already extrards by default without specyfing x)09:33
Gavrila BTW killink X now results in not being able to restart gdm service and moreoover when X fails then to get up, my machine get  stuck in a unresponsive ncurses dialog09:33
dreumahit checked dependancies but the python-xdg does  not comply09:33
Gavrilaompaul,  yes but I didn't touch the xorg.conf neither the card09:33
dreumahdpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smeg:09:34
dreumah smeg depends on python-xdg (>= 0.14); however:09:34
dreumah  Version of python-xdg on system is 0.9-1.09:34
dreumahdpkg: error processing smeg (--install):09:34
dreumah dependency problems - leaving unconfigured09:34
dreumahErrors were encountered while processing:09:34
dreumah smeg09:34
Red_Bulletand how can i send massage09:34
dreumahthis is my error09:34
puskom_carino, i haven't but when i use nautilus there's 3 item disk 1, cd rom and system file,... is disk 1 same as floopy disk ?09:34
Gavrilaafter a fresh reboot obvously X starts fine09:34
shey_16hi09:34
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shey_16hi09:34
Starryskythge results were the same kemik. I am using and AMD64 and apparently there were some problems in this architecture09:34
bob2dreumah: please don't poaste things in here09:34
ompauldreumah, no your error was pasting in the channel - paste.ubuntulinux.nl is what you do there copy that url and keep it :)09:34
dreumahhuh?09:35
bob2and the problem is simple, get a more recent python-xdg09:35
bob2which will break other things09:35
oceandeadpaste error message @ paste.ubuntulinux.nl  - not in here09:35
bob2yay backports09:35
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chickboiecE: Couldn't find package libglibl.209:35
shey_16hi09:35
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chickboiechow to install the package09:35
ompaulGavrila, well I will restart X here because I have new packages for it (a set since my ~1am  it now being 8:35 local - hope to talk in a mo09:35
bob2chickboiec: spell it correctly09:35
dreumahoh ok09:35
bob2chickboiec: also, ymessenger is not our problem09:35
dreumahsorry i didnt know about that09:36
chickboiecok09:36
bob2chickboiec: why are you not using gaim?09:36
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chickboiechow to install wine09:36
dreumahstill i dont know what to do with the dependency problem09:36
chickboiecim already using it09:36
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shivyhya09:36
bob2chickboiec: why do you want wine?09:36
bob2chickboiec: to run yahoo?09:36
chickboiecyeah09:36
bob2dreumah: then ignore it and don't use smeg09:36
puskom_cariafter8 : no, i haven't but when i use nautilus there's 3 item disk 1, cd rom and system file,... is disk 1 same as floopy disk ?09:36
oceandeadah09:37
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user_bob2: sir, i just did what it said and *really*, so-stupid-that-i-get, it wont make one.09:37
oceandead!gaim09:37
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/09:37
shey_16hi09:37
shivyI got a question, Im trying to VNCSERVER from a XP machine to my Ubuntu box ....but I want my XFCE4 desktop and NOT GNOME ....please help cause all the howto's refer to files in my home directory that doesnt exist (the xsession file)09:37
dreumahthen how will i add to the menu?09:37
StarryskyE: Couldn't find package unrar-unfree09:37
bob2user_: "wont make one" what?09:37
aftertafpuskom_cari> couldnt tell you for sure.... try the mount cxommand i gave you then look in nautilus see wat you have09:37
user_admin account?09:38
bob2shivy: so make it...09:38
slythats a point, i think i might log into xfce, not done that in a while =D09:38
ompaulGavrila, I would rebuild X as in go through the whole X setup regardless, you don't know what got altered in that shake up09:38
bob2Starrysky: it's in multiverse and may or may not exist for amd6409:38
puskom_carihow to install wine?09:38
Gavrilaok changing the driverfrom fglrx to ati seems to solve the issue Omarkj09:38
Gavrilaompaul,09:38
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ompaulGavrila, saw that09:38
aftertafuser_> the first account you created on install , when combined with sudo, IS an admin account (more or less)09:38
Gavrilaso it's a fglrx new buildd problem09:38
user_oh, thats why... (stupid me)09:39
xunilusershivy: google xsession09:39
puskom_cariaftertaf : thanks alot09:39
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pluffsybob2: are there some place I could go to check if there is possible to get support for the cinemaster dvd decoder? google didn't give much, damn I really wanted to watch dvd:s :(09:40
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bob2if google doesn't know, I'd be surprised if it was possible09:41
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Starryskybob2 ... that's what i'm afraid of ... it's not for amd64, as my sources are alreadt using those commented servers... well guess i'll just have to run a samba server, and have another pc in windows uncompile those files, wich is sad really.09:41
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ompaul!tell pluffsy about restricted09:42
bob2yay for proprietary software09:42
aftertaflol09:42
oceandeadhahaha09:42
pluffsybob2: how much hardware do you think I need to get dvd in real time? does more ram do any good?09:42
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ColonelKernelphotoshop for linux?09:43
bob2pluffsy: ram's unlikely to help, maybe a p3-600 sorta speed?09:43
aftertafColonelKernel> gimp09:43
bob2chickboiec: www.codeweavers.com09:43
pluffsyompaul: I know about restricted, but I've installed what I found there and I guess there are no binary drivers since I'm on a G3 (ppc750 or whatever)09:43
ColonelKernelphotoshop > gimp09:43
user_*** hey bob2 and aftertaf THANKS!!!: i just did it! ***09:43
[Spooky] anyone know if the am64 port for libdvdcss2 is coming soon ?09:44
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ompaulahh09:44
fekmoin09:44
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pluffsybob2: darn, guess that's a bit to much for a 400MHz G3, even if it produces a little more per cycle :/09:44
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user_*** somehow UBUNTU was present here (i thought it would all be just *HEY, HELLO?*) ***09:45
user_bye *bob2* and *aftertaf*09:45
ml267I just changed the video card in my ubuntu machine, and Xorg doesn't start up properly anymore.  I looked at the config file, and sure enough, it looks like I need to reconfigure it.  What's the best way to do that?09:46
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aftertafbob2> what a curious person.... :D09:46
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ccfielhello09:46
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oceandeaddpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:47
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aftertafml267> and choose the right driver ...09:47
ccfielhello09:47
slyml268, maybe booting into the live cd ?09:47
ms_nursinghi09:47
ccfielwhere does all the .deb can be found?09:47
Ender78http://www.contemporaryinsanity.org09:47
slyunkles u like doing it vvia the line :)09:47
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_lucianhello world09:48
ml267oceandead: i didn't know if dpkg-reconfigure would bypass some ubuntu specific stuff?09:48
aftertafccfiel> what do you mean?  locally, or on internet?09:48
connerI know there is someone here that could tell me the easiest way to install 8mb NVidia TNT2 driver ...  on this COMpaq 5WV270 machine.  I am not all that firmilar with most of lingo, I am a bit confused09:48
x[trick] xis there a bundled office for kubuntu??09:48
ompaul!tell conner about nvidia09:48
ompaulx[trick] x, what is openoffice not there?09:48
ml267I thought there might be some magic script that's ubuntu specific that I should run to update the video card settings09:49
ccfielaftertaf: locally i have finish install a deb file and i want it to be transfer to other pc and install it. i dont want to download it again from the intenet.09:49
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aftertafml267> dpkg ;)09:49
ml267aftertaf: ok, I'll try the ol-faithful09:49
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aftertafccfiel> a .deb you got with apt-get? might not work.....09:49
ccfielaftertaf: why?09:50
aftertafccfiel> but look around in /var/cache/apt/archive09:50
ccfielaftertaf: why? so you mean i have to download again if i want to install it to other comp?09:50
aftertafccfiel> dependencies..... is why09:50
aftertafif no pb with dependencies, youll find it there....09:50
ccfielaftertaf: ok. ill just try my luck.. i have to install to 20 more computers :(09:50
aftertafccfiel> what package is it?09:51
ccfielaftertaf: java runtime and flash player for mozilla09:51
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ompaulahh ccfiel you need to look at restricted09:52
ompaul!tell ccfiel about restricted09:52
ccfielampaul: restricted? what is that?09:52
ompaulccfiel, ubotu the channel bot sent you a url to explain it better than I could09:53
ml267after i reconfigure xserver, how do i restart the normal gdm?09:53
aftertafml267>  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart09:54
ml267aftertaf: i looked in my /etc/rc2.d and i didn't see gdm in it.09:54
ml267aftertaf: how does ubuntu usually start it?09:54
aftertafinit.d.....09:55
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aftertafdoes for kdm anyway.....09:55
ml267aftertaf: my bad, it IS there.09:55
aftertaftry in rcS.d.... but think you should run the /etc thing... more 'correct' ;)09:55
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aetheraanyone installed vmware here?09:55
ml267aftertaf: it's not starting though.. :(09:56
chavoaethera, I installed 5.5 beta09:56
Slyaethera........................ i have the older 4.5.2 installed09:56
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aetheraI have a problem anyone I can pm for help quick09:56
aftertafml267> is there an error message?09:57
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ml267aftertaf: gdm didn't give any kind of useful msg09:57
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wingman920hello, im a newbie.just downloaded ubuntu 5.04 iso and burned it on nero as bootable disc. when i booted from the cd-rom...[DRDOS]  ran and a:....how will i install ubuntu?..please help09:58
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aftertafwingman920> normally it gives you step by step instructions.....   you type linux ;)09:58
oceandeadcheck F2 for some options if none desired you can just hit enter09:59
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wingman920well i ran like windows bootable diskette..loaded drivers and then stopped at [DRDOS] a:09:59
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aetheraany ideas why vmware install is failing cause it can not find a dir?09:59
wingman920whats next? or id i burned the iso wrong?09:59
aetheraThe path "/usr/src/linux/include" is an existing directory, but it does not09:59
aetheracontain at least one of these directories "linux", "asm", "net" as expected.09:59
oceandeadin nero - file > burn image > browse to and select iso you dled10:00
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oceandeadgo into bios make sure to boot from cd first10:00
oceandeadboot from te cd you burned > press enter > follow prompts10:00
aetheraguys?10:01
_chris_how do I create a tar.gz file?10:01
aftertafoceandead> nicely seen dude....    the image not burned as a n image but as a file on a cdrom...10:01
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_chris_tar <what options here?>10:01
oceandeadpretty common10:01
wingman920maybe i burned it wrong coz i chose the "create bootable disc" option....10:01
ompaulaethera, no, but if someone does give them a chance to answer10:01
oceandeadyep10:01
aetheraompaul:10:02
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freezahow do you exactly install a 32bit app in 64bit ubuntu?10:02
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aetherafreeza: same as always10:03
freezai cant10:03
Kromonoshow can I backup a completely partition into an iso file?10:03
aetheraVMware Workstation 5.0.0 build-1312410:03
freezawhen i do dpkg -i i get incompatible10:04
ompaulaethera, two things to note, who ever helps is a volunteer, second if no answer now ask again politely in about15/20 mins when they may be looking at their screens again10:04
wingman920does online games like ragnarok, MU, and gunboud run on ubunto?10:04
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wingman920does online games like ragnarok, MU, and gunboud run on ubunto?10:06
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Ashenragnarok works in wine, gunbound doesn't10:07
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AshenI dunno what MU is10:07
marc^installing the ubuntu base system....10:07
Ashenwow works10:07
Ashenas does ultima...10:07
marc^the debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)10:07
marc^check var/log/messages or virtual console 3 for the details10:07
marc^/var/log/messages is empty10:08
ompaulfreeza, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats you can search that for amd64 it may help, sorry I know very little about 64bit10:08
freezaok thanks10:08
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Scrawny1when's breezy comming out in the final relese?10:08
thoreauputicoctober 1310:09
Ashenmarc, I had problems similar to that when my iso was corrupted... check your downloads' md510:09
Scrawny1thank-you :)10:09
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Scrawny1now next question10:09
freezai wonder10:09
ompaulKromonos, I would first create a tarball them use k3b / nautilus / or mkisofs -o my.iso  my.tar .. never did it with a directory but it may be achieveable I don't see why not10:09
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Scrawny1will it be easy to upgrade from 5.04?10:09
marc^i ran the cd verify thing in the install thing10:09
marc^said it was fine10:09
freezawhen breezy comes out will it be better to just do a dist-upgrade or just reinstall?10:09
Ashenanyone know why the eclipse I installed from the repo doesn't like to download its own feature upgrades?10:10
thoreauputicfreeza: diat-upgrade10:10
Ashenfreeza... I personally like reinstall (because its nice and fresh) but dist-upgrade will do it for you.10:10
Asheneither way it should work out of the box.10:10
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Kromonosompaul: what's about dd?10:10
marc^shipit is closed10:11
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freezajust wondering cuz i finally got my hoary running exactly like i want it10:11
ompaulfreeza, if you reinstall don't forget to back up your home directory first10:11
marc^i downloaded the ISO and burnt it10:11
Scrawny1I'm not upgrading till final comes out :)10:11
dazvidditto ^10:11
oceandeadhehehe10:11
AshenI got breezy running like my hoary in about an hour today...10:11
ompaulKromonos, never did it10:11
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Ashenthere are a couple of quirks... but its not that hard once you know what you want :)10:11
Kromonoshmm :(10:11
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thoreauputicfreeza: if you dist-upgrade make sure you have the ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop packages installed first10:12
freezawell i just upgraded to breezy kernel in hoary and it fixed a lot of my issues10:12
marc^i386 = windows like system10:12
marc^?10:12
ompaulKromonos, dd from a disk to create an iso on machine, however you would have to pipe the output through cdrecord and that might me messy10:12
freezaespecially my dma10:12
marc^did i download the right one?10:12
freezai386 is just architecture10:12
Kromonosmarc^: never compare linux and windows systems ;)10:12
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freezajust means its for 32bit systems10:12
marc^ok, thats clearer10:13
ompaulmarc^, it means that it is an intel/amd machine10:13
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oceandeadi tried upgrade to colony 3 ~month ago, it was...interesting ;)10:13
pajamacan I use thes eimages to install Breezy with the latest ISO? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/10:13
thoreauputicmarc^: i386 has nothing to do with windows :)10:13
marc^< newcomer to this sort of thing10:13
Kromonosompaul: I don't want to burn the files on cd. I just want to backup them over LAN onto another PC10:13
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marc^(noob)10:13
pajamaI need to do a netinstall10:13
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Scrawny1now guys I have a question10:13
shivyno doesnt work btw ..put the xsession in my ~/home/user/.vnc10:13
Scrawny1sometimes i can't close programs in ubuntu10:13
shivyBut still no XFCE410:13
shivyI hate gnome its so ugly10:14
Scrawny1and I can't get into x to kill the pid10:14
freezadoes anyone here use amd64 hoary? i got a question10:14
oceandeadugly?10:14
Scholar_Gypsyhi, i am about to reinstall Ubuntu. But I have one question: can I back up my apt repository so that I dont need to d'load all those files all over again?10:14
shivyyes very even .... I like my wm to be CLEAN and fast10:14
Scholar_Gypsyhow do i do it?10:14
ompaulKromonos, tarball and scp or sftp both of which exist on an machine with ssh on them - you may need to install dropbear or some such to have a sshd that will allow you do ssh stuff10:14
Scrawny1will breezy fix that or am I shit outa luck?10:14
holy_cowguys, anyone know a quick/good tutorial on how to apply a diff patch?10:14
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holy_cowgoogle returns so much info back its hard to tell what is what10:14
Gavrilaanyone here with problems with latest breezy fglrx?10:14
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thoreauputicshivy: installing xfce4 is just a matter of " sudo apt-gey install xfce4 " - what's the problem exactly?10:15
oceandeadi use xfce as well but not because gnome is ugly10:15
Kromonosompaul: ssh is good. I'll use ssh :)10:15
Slyholy_cow google advanced search ?10:15
shivyIm trying to get my VNCserver to work under xfce410:15
holy_cowSly, fuck off?10:15
shivybut it always starts in gnome10:15
pliphello any body care to chat10:15
oceandeadthoreauputic - shivy is trying to get xfce session via vnc10:15
wingman920does yahoo messenger work on ubuntu?10:15
Scrawny1only on gaim10:15
thoreauputicoceandead: ah OK - my bad10:15
wingman920does yahoo messenger work on ubuntu?10:16
freezaim trying to install enlightenment dr17 but apt-get will not do it because the pkg is not amd6410:16
oceandeadwingman920: yes, with gaim10:16
pemHi all. Who is in charge of the legal issues about Ubuntu ? I'm working on a book about Linux for the french publisher Micro Application (http://www.microapp.com) and I used Ubuntu Linux for the live CD chapter. I have to ask for an official "ok" for selling my future book with the live CD version of Ubuntu.10:16
Slywas no need for that, you obviously know to go to google, but cant use google advance , to sort the crap out of the results, shame10:16
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shivywingman920: try Gyach Enhanced - lots of compiling but vey handly + voicechat10:16
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Slyyr pupils at my college can use google advance10:16
shivyanyway: Ive been trying this for weeks. now the VNCserver doesnt even wanna connect anymore ... grrr10:16
aetherahow do you mount something that any user can see it?10:16
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thoreauputicpem: I would email canonical10:17
shivymy ssh btw which i am on now works perfectly (gottah love putty)10:17
oceandeadwish i could help ya there shivy10:17
plipfgghg10:17
pemthoreauputic: ok10:17
aetherashivy: wahts the problem?10:17
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thoreauputicpem: I doubt it would be a problem10:17
shivywell My vncserver shows a gnome desktop10:17
thoreauputicpem: it's all good for Ubuntu :)10:17
aftertafpem> c'est mme une trs bonne ide mec ;)10:17
shivyinstead of xfce410:17
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shivybecause Gnome is a HUGE desktop10:18
pemI know that's not a real problam10:18
shivyand i want something clean and fast10:18
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pembut my editor needs thoses official email for doing what you're already able to do with the GPL :)10:18
aetheraok how do you remount everything in your fstab?10:18
shivyEvery howto points to the xsession file10:18
magnonshivy: it's not huge graphically.10:18
dduckoCould someone connect to me and see if my webserver is working.. i ll send the IP privately10:18
er4z0rre10:18
Burgundaviaaeddan_, mount -a10:18
thoreauputicpem: :)10:18
Burgundaviaaethera, mount -a10:19
shivyBut in ubuntu that is simply being overriden by something else10:19
magnonshivy: using another desktop under vnc wont solve anything10:19
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shivymagnon. thats not a solution10:19
pemAnd by the way, thanks for the great work on Ubuntu Linux. I'm glad to present such a distro to all my (many :) ) future readers.10:19
aetherahow do I mount a usb drive so my normal user can see it10:19
shivyI really just want to use 1 desktop in common10:19
freezawhy dont you just use fluxbox?10:19
shivynot both gnome and XFCE410:19
naliothdducko: you dont want the /. effect by publically revealing your IP?10:19
er4z0rcan anyone tell me how to configure cups to use the "raw" printing proctocol with a printer?10:19
aethera/dev/sda1       /media/sda      ntfs    ro,user,auto    0       010:19
aetheraI use that atm10:19
magnonwhy do you even have to use xfce? :P10:19
shivywell if I knew how to switch to vncserver working under fluxbox I wouldve10:20
shivyIts not a discussion about what desktop i should use10:20
shivyIts about HOW to get a diffrent desktop under a VNCSERVER10:20
dduckotheres nothing on the page so wouldnt matter.. oh what the hell i can kill (hopefuly)10:20
aetheraas root I can see the stuff on the drive10:20
dduckohttp://12.240.55.140/10:20
er4z0rathera: try using "users" in fstab10:20
aftertafaethera> yep. ^^^^^^10:21
thoreauputicBTW for fluxbox aficionados - I just compiled the new version 0.9.14 from svn, and it solves the slow startup xmb bug in previous versions! :D10:21
er4z0rand check permissions of /media/sda10:21
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aetherastill can not see it hey10:21
freezaanyone here using amd64 ubuntu?10:22
aetheradr-x------    1 root     root        16384 2005-09-15 10:27 sda10:22
er4z0raethera: so there you have your problem ;)10:22
Gavrilaompaul, you got ati card?10:23
aetheraYou do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sda".10:23
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aetheradrwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         4096 2005-09-16 10:18 sda10:23
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aftertafbots?10:23
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oceandeadumask=000?10:23
freezai almost got my ati 3d working10:24
aetherajeanre@digimortal:~ $ cd /media/sda10:24
aetherabash: cd: /media/sda: Permission denied10:24
ompaulGavrila, no10:24
aftertafaethera> sudo chmod 777 /media/sda10:24
aetheraoceandead: nope10:24
Gavrilafreeza, hoary=10:24
Gavrila?10:24
freezayeah10:25
GavrilaI don't understarnd why fglrx is so broken in breezy10:25
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er4z0rthis idea about disabling administrative task in cups webinterface sux10:26
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aetheraaftertaf: should 755 not be good enough10:26
BurgundaviaGavrila, have you tried today?10:26
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GavrilaBurgundavia,10:26
Gavrilayes and my screen is all blurry10:26
xuniluserMicrosucks representatives are actively raiding net cafes here in the Philippines....10:26
Burgundaviaer4z0r, it was done for security reasons10:26
aftertafaethera> yep..... my error (plus its ntfs so no write access ;) )10:26
freezagav u using amd64 hoary?10:26
Gavrilaas I get back to "ati" driver then it's all good10:26
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Gavrilanope10:26
Gavrilainspiron 600010:26
aftertafxuniluser> nasty.... get em on ubuntu :D10:26
Madpiloter4z0r: System menu - Admin - Printing10:26
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er4z0rBurgundavia: that would be fine, if I figured out how to tell cups to send raw" data to the unix printers on my printserver10:27
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Gavrilaam I the only one with blurry screen with latest fglrx?10:27
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evrixhi all10:27
er4z0rMadpilot: yes, I know but i could not find the feature there10:27
evrixi have a problem10:27
thoreauputic*sigh* the bots are back it seems...10:28
evrixcan anyone help?10:28
evrixpliz...10:28
aftertafyep thoreauputic10:28
Madpilotevrix: please just ask your actual question...10:28
Gavrilaevrix, everyone has got a problem in the world10:28
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er4z0rthoreauputic: wher?10:28
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freezais there a repository for eclipse?10:28
evrixmine's bigger...10:28
evrix:p10:29
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marc^ mines bigger10:29
ekimusevrix: just ask the question!10:29
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evrixokiz10:29
evrixi'm trying to install kubuntu from hard disk10:29
marc^'can i ask a question' < you just did10:29
aetheraoh I asked for a wallpaper changer10:29
evrixby an entry in lilo10:29
aetheraanyone know of any nice ones?10:29
evrixinstaller starts10:29
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oceandeadgnome-look.org10:29
evrixbut then keeps looking for cdrom10:30
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ekimusevrix: and please ask the question in a single line, it's very hard to follow if you hit enter about 20 times10:30
evrixi tried to mount the iso10:30
Madpilotaethera: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy10:30
evrixhuh10:30
evrixi'm trying to install kubuntu directky from hd by an entry in lilo. installer boots but keeps on looking for cdrom. i tried to mount the iso an to link it to /cdrom but with no luck. any idea?10:31
evrixthx10:31
ekimusanyone using csh? i can't get it to show the $cwd my prompt is: ""`whoami`@`hostname -s`:$cwd#" but it doesn't change the path10:31
ekimusevrix: you already have ubuntu installed?10:32
Madpilotevrix: if that one line had been your opening line, you'd have had help a lot sooner...10:32
evrixnow i know...10:32
evrix:710:32
er4z0rcould anyone, please, help me with my printer problem: We have a printserver in the net with 2 printers (lp3,lp2) and because we want our windows machines to use them, I shall configure the cups on our samba machine to pass the raw data overto the printserver10:33
ekimusevrix: if you already have ubuntu installed the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"10:33
evrixi want to put it on another pc10:33
er4z0rproblem is: I do not find that f'in option. Where can I find official docs for gnome-printer-manager?10:33
evrixwhat option?10:34
er4z0rfor passing through "raw" data to the printserver10:34
evrixhmm10:34
evrixisn't it depending on the driver?10:34
er4z0rand I can not managa that printer over webinterface as admin-tasks are disabled10:34
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ekimuser4z0r: if it's using cups in the background there are docs available at the web interface10:35
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evrixi mean: the driver is ps, pcl, raw or whatever ain't it?10:35
er4z0rekimus: hrm?10:35
evrixhrm?10:36
evrixi have to go now10:36
evrixmaybe see you next week if i didn't install yet10:36
er4z0rI select the printer and then I can select drivers (ps, hpjs ...)10:36
scxWOW ubuntusers duplicates as rabbits !10:37
ndazzahas anyone played with xen under ubuntu?10:37
evrixso when you choose the driver you choose the way to communicate data10:37
evrixi think...10:37
evrixbyez all10:37
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ekimusscx: that's easy "for i in $(seq 1  100); do apt-get install ubuntu box$1;done" :)10:38
poningrundazza: I would like to know about this if you get an answer10:38
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aetheracan you mount nero image file in linux?10:39
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ndazzaponingru: i've tried once before using the binary packages, i'm downloading the source now10:39
poningrundazza: is it not in the repos?10:39
aftertafaethera> yes.... you can... dunno the syntax10:39
ndazzaponingru: nope, not that i can see10:39
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aetherais there not a virtual cd emulator like daemon tools?10:40
pefhu10:40
ekimusathlon: "mount -o loop image.iso /mnt" doesnt work?10:40
pefaethera, cdemu.sf.net10:40
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bobesponjaI just plugged my ubuntu laptop to my LAN (dhcp), how can I connect it to the net now?10:43
bobesponjaknowing that I installed ubuntu offline10:43
aftertafbobesponja> dhcp may have given out the default gateway...10:43
dduckocould someone tellme if this is working.   http:\\dizzy-d.dyndns.org10:44
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dduckooops10:44
dduckocould someone tellme if this is working.   http://dizzy-d.dyndns.org10:44
ekimusdducko: this will never work, those are backslashes :)10:44
aftertafbobesponja> check in /etc/network/interfaces that eth0 is setup for dhcp : iface eth0 inet dhcp10:44
ekimusdducko: "Hello World!"10:44
dduckoi saw it.. a little late but I saw it.. ok cool its working10:44
ekimusheh :)10:45
dducko345am im a little slow right now10:45
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er4z0rdducko: yes it does10:45
dduckothanks10:45
dducko*watches the lights dance on his modem*10:46
aftertaflol dducko10:46
aftertafyour nick is almost the next version of ubuntu, man ;)10:46
dduckoHmm?10:46
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davrohi all, does anyone know if the rubygems package/manager is going tobe on the breezy repository.10:46
Gavrilathe ntp init script is dumb, it deosn't check if the network is up or not... and when it's not  it waits fot imeout....10:46
osfameronaftertaf: what's the next version?  daffy duck?10:47
aftertafyes, nearly :)10:47
aftertafdapper drake10:47
dduckolol  cool name10:47
osfameronI like that more than breezy10:47
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floppyearshi10:47
aftertafimho, a bit close to mandrake...10:47
ndazzadavro: i have the breezy repo and there's no rubygems package10:48
floppyearsI have shell access to a machine at work, in that machine I can access the mysql server10:48
aftertafidve preferred Vernaculous Viper (beats Vista(poo))10:48
bobesponjaaftertaf: now I added " iface eth0 inet dhcp" but still no internet, i did a /etc/init.d/network restart but nothing10:48
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floppyearsbut I need to compile stuff at home and somehow access that mysql server at the same time10:48
floppyearsany ideas ?10:48
aftertafbobesponja> what does ifconfig show you, an IP for eth0 ?10:48
aftertaffloppyears> screen ;D10:49
SpermiteThe following packages have unmet dependencies:10:49
Spermite  kaffeine: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.3.2-4.0.2) but it is not going to be installed10:49
Spermitewhat the heck10:49
dduckoanyone know a better way to do this.. I own the dizzy-d.com address.. through godaddy.. gonna forward it to a dynddns address10:49
ekimusfloppyears: you mean accessing 2 boxes with a single shell?10:49
davrondazza: cheers for the check, wanders off scratching head, ruby without the pacakge/manager.10:49
bob2Spermite: welcome to sid!10:49
bob2floppyears: how is that a problem?10:49
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floppyearsthe stuff that I'm compiling needs to access the db at work, and I can't access it from home10:49
aftertaflol bob2 sid is vicious10:50
floppyearsI have to ssh at work and then access the db from that shell10:50
bob2er10:50
ndazzadavro: it might come with the ruby package?10:50
freezahello10:50
bob2floppyears: so setup an ssh tunnel10:50
bobesponjaaftertaf: it doesn't show any inet when I type ifconfig10:50
Spermitehow can i fic my problem10:50
freezahey is there an eclipse repository for hoary?10:50
floppyearsbob2: is that hard to figure out ?10:50
Spermitefix^10:50
ekimusfloppyears: create an ssh tunnel (google has tons of howtos on that topic)10:50
bob2floppyears: man ssh, -L9999:localhost:whateverportmysqluses10:50
aftertafbobesponja> paste me in private what ifconfig shows you.10:50
bobesponjaaftertaf: i cant past without an internet connection but let me try :)10:51
aftertafhehe10:51
ndazzabob2: whateverportmysqluses=3306 (by default)10:51
floppyearsbob2: cool thanks10:51
floppyearsbob2: so what would I specify for the db host ?10:52
aftertafSpermite> what version of ubuntu are you using?10:52
ekimusmore generic: -L9999:localhost:mysql :)10:52
davrondazza: rubygems is a seperate tool, kinda like php pear, just seems really strange to not include it.10:52
ekimusthat is if your /etc/services is set up10:52
ekimusfloppyears: the db host is then localhost:999910:52
bob2ekimus: good point10:52
Spermiteaftertaf. not actually using ubuntu, using debian10:53
floppyearsekimus: thanks :)10:53
bob2Spermite: file a bug if no one else has10:53
lenhandoes anybody happen to have used pvm on ubuntu?10:53
Spermiteshouldnt be to hard to fox10:54
Spermitefix^10:54
davrondazza: rubygems can be downloaded seperatly, but i like to keep the apt as the main pkg-manager10:54
martiihi10:54
bob2Spermite: right, but you can't fix it10:54
martiigot small problem10:54
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martiireplaced image-386 with image-68610:54
ekimusanyone interested in some "advanced ubuntu" channel? i get the feeling that a number of advanced questions are somewhat ignored, looking at the amount of questions new users have10:55
Spermitebob2 =10:55
martiiand Xorg does not work as expected10:55
dduckois there a way to apt-get nvu?10:55
martiiekimus: if it;s goint to be supported why not10:55
bob2Spermite: ?10:55
yhannhi to all, i need help how to install an application on Kubuntu.10:55
martiidducko: grap binary distro10:55
marc^whats the difference between 386 and 68610:55
lenhanekimus: I'd be interested10:55
martiidducko: install in PATH10:55
bob2ekimus: I don't think splitting the community is a good idea10:55
Spermitebob2 =0(10:55
dducko*goes to figure it out*10:56
bob2ekimus: you'd get all the advanced users going there, leaving the simple questions even more unanswered than they are now10:56
bob2which would be mitigated if people actually read documentiation10:56
lenhanbob2: good point10:56
freezais there an eclipse repository?10:56
ekimusbob2: it works on several other channels i know, why not on ubuntu?10:57
lenhanhehe, I can't find any documentation regarding pvm on ubuntu10:57
bob2ekimus: because ubuntu is extremely cluebie heavy10:57
bob2lenhan: the paralelel thing?10:57
ekimusfreeza: just grab the original from eclipse.org, it's the easiest way10:57
bob2lenhan: that doesn't sound ubuntu-specific at all10:57
lenhanbob2: yes10:57
freezaok10:57
marc^anyone?10:57
No1Vikingbob2: pvm is there, in Synaptic10:58
ekimusfreeza: it's even enough to put it somewhere in your home, been working with that set up for quite some time when i did java10:58
bob2No1Viking: yes, I know10:58
unrealis it possible to give ownership of a file to different groups at the same time?10:58
aftertaf386 is processor non specific (just i386 architecture)10:58
marc^difference between i386 and i686 ?10:58
lenhanbob2: I have the package installed (that's pretty easy), but it looks like ubuntu uses rsh by default instead of ssh10:58
davromarc^: inanutshell Basically the difference between the10:58
davro2 architectures is the i386 is optimized for older Pentium processors10:58
davroand the i686 for the newer processors that are currently out there.10:58
freezaahh ok10:58
aftertaf686 is for Celeron, PIII, PIV10:58
bob2unreal: no, files have only one group owner10:58
bob2unreal: unless you use ACLs; what are you trying to do?10:58
marc^so i should get 686 if i have   P4?10:58
bob2lenhan: rsh poitn at ssh10:58
lenhanbob2: I'm also interested in a more recent version of ubuntu10:59
bob2lenhan: I don't think rsh is in Debian, anywhere10:59
bob2lenhan: breezy is it, but dont' upgrade if you care about nvidia binary drivers10:59
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lenhanbob2: yes, rsh is symbolically linked to ssh10:59
ekimusmarc^: nothing users really have to care about. all pentiums that are now on the market are 686 if you are concerned about the packages with those in the name, 386 will still work fine10:59
davromarc^: Different instruction set at compiler level10:59
No1Vikingrsh clients.10:59
No1VikingThis package contains rsh, rcp and rlogin.10:59
ndazzabob2: there is an rsh-client and rsh-server package11:00
thespiritoftalanyone knows how to use gmailfs? I have got it using apt-get... how will I configure it now?11:00
bob2ndazza: ew11:00
ekimusrsh should have died by now11:00
bob2thespiritoftal: it really had no instructions?11:00
ekimuslike ftp11:00
thespiritoftalwell dunno11:00
ndazzarsh will be there for some time, for compatibility11:00
ndazzasame as telnet11:00
bob2ftp at least has a safe use for distributing software11:00
lenhanbob2: I'm having problems with it for some reason; I've tried manually compiling it without any success11:00
ndazzathere are still legit uses of it11:00
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CCFIELhello ppl..11:00
holy_cowanyone here run mythtv on their ubuntu box?11:00
bob2thespiritoftal: so have a look?11:00
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CCFIELhow do i install shockwave in ubuntu11:01
yhannmartii: please can you be more specific about install?11:01
aftertafCCFIEL> iirc it doesnt exist11:01
unrealbob2: i'm adding a directory for an apache2 virtual host, but I don't want 'other' users to list the contents of the directory... and I want the new folder to be accessable to only that user, but allow apache2 to view and list the contents of it11:01
lenhanbob2: I'm using pvm for work related stuff; I'm using "another solution" for now until I figure how to do it on ubuntu11:01
thoreauputicCCFIEL: no shockwave for Linux AFAIK11:02
ndazzaunreal: set the user to be the user you want to give access to, the group to be the group of the www server11:02
ekimusbob2: rsync is much better than ftp imho...11:02
unrealbob2: creating a new group and givin the user in question and www-data access to the group doesn't help, that's why I was wondering if a file could belong to two groups11:02
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lenhanbob2: I just wondered if anybody might could give me some hints; I'll figure it out (eventually)11:03
bob2unreal: what's the point of restricting access to it if apache can list it to the world?11:03
bob2ekimus: of course11:03
unrealndazza: that means the user could mess about and view the contents of the other directories in the same group, which I don't want :)11:03
bob2lenhan: irc is a bad place for questions like that; I'd try the pvm list or ubuntu-users11:03
ndazzaunreal: oh. well set the user ownership to be the www server and group ownership to be the group of the user11:03
unrealbob2: because some files can be kept secret by apache2.. and some of the subdirs won't be listed either11:04
drummer87hi all, does anyone know what a ppc G3 500mHz is comparable to in terms of an intel/pentium CPU?11:04
bob2unreal: creating a new group11:04
bob2drummer87: depends what you're doing11:04
lenhanbob2: thanks11:04
bob2unreal: er, should work11:04
bob2unreal: acls will work11:04
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bob2drummer87: roughly depends on what you're doing11:05
martiiyhann: standard install11:06
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drummer87would it run gnome smoothly? (with 192mb ram i think)11:06
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martiiyhann: frglx driver for ati11:06
martiiyhann: 2 displays11:06
bob2ram will be the issue there11:06
martiiyhann: before update I had to separate desktops11:06
martiiyhann: now it looks like one and the same11:07
floppyearsbob2: I tried that and it didn't work11:07
lenhandrummer87: http://www.themacobserver.com/shootouts/processor_notes.html  <-- might give you an idea11:07
floppyearsbob2: I don't think I can reach the mysql server11:07
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ndazzafloppyears: as a test, do telnet localhost 999911:07
ndazzafloppyears: if that fails to connect, something is wrong :)11:08
floppyearsbob2: from home, I have to first ssh to work then from the work shell I have to access the mysql server (another machine)11:08
drummer87bob2, ram isn't everything though, i have ubuntu on a p3 with 512mb ram and menus are sluggish.. Oo.o takes an age to open11:08
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gorilla#ubuntu11:08
drummer87thanks lenhan11:08
bob2floppyears: that would have been useful to mention in your original question11:08
gorillaoops.. sorry11:08
floppyearsbob2: sorry, I forgot :(11:08
lenhandrummer87: np =-)11:08
bob2drummer87: yes, the cpu is kinda slow, too11:08
bob2floppyears: then it's the same principal, but more complicated and laggy11:08
unrealbob2: heh thanks for that11:08
floppyearsbob2: ok, thanks. I think I'm just going to go to bed and do this at work in the morning :)11:09
bob2unreal: don't forget to mount the partition with the acl option, tho11:09
dduckoquick question.. im hosting a website on my computer.. do i want to work directly with files in /var/www or somewhere else and "publish" to there?11:09
unrealbob2: yeah, i'm about to do that11:09
bob2dducko: do you really want to make changes live?11:09
unrealbob2: just searched google for "acls operation not supported" :P11:09
Spermitecan someone show me what they have under #MPLAYER in /etc/apt/sources.list11:09
dduckoProbally, wont be much on the page11:10
unrealwhen in doubt, ask bob2, or search google :)11:10
dansthi, i am searching for days (!) now but i dont find a working solution to import my mail from outlook to evolution.Tried: Thunderbird (Win): crashed (to big file? 300meg), outport: how to import in evo?, readpst: malloc failure, eudora: import succeeded but many emails look wired all are in html only and i cannot switch. I would prefer the outport solution, but I dont know how to import the mails. can anyone help me?11:10
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unrealg'day everyone, ty again bob211:10
dduckomy only drawback is.. how do i make nvu run with persions to write there.. or do i change the permisions on the folder11:10
aftertafdanst> if u dont have too much mail, send it to yourself (transfer)11:10
pescoHi, what's a good package to manage network locations?11:10
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ndazzadanst: try outlook->outlook express->elsewhere11:11
aftertafdducko> permissions on folder..... but i'd do in /home then copy if i were U11:11
pescoI.e. change address, wifi, etc. settings when moving from one place to another?11:11
danstaftertaf, thats not really a solution11:11
dduckothat would work..11:11
bob2Spermite: people don't have the word "MPLAYER" in their sources.list11:11
dduckoand i can always figure out a script thingy11:11
aftertafdanst> i know, but i dont have a real one, just a tip i tried myself.11:11
bob2Spermite: if you want to install mplayer, get it from multiverse11:12
osfameronmy "Lock Screen" is broken...11:12
osfameroncan I start it up again without rebooting?11:12
bob2danst: readpst - Converts Outlook PST files to mbox and others11:12
freezaanyone here running amd64 hoary?11:12
danstok thanks11:12
bob2osfameron: alt-f2 xscreensaver <enter>11:12
danstbob2, i already tried this but it has a memory alloc error11:13
aetheraoooooooooh my ubuntu rock11:13
benplautbtw, anyone know how to change the lock-screen dialog theme?11:13
aetherarocks even11:13
osfameronbob2: thanks (though I have run app mapped to Win-R due to brain hardwiring :-)11:13
lenhanaethera: hehe11:13
benplauti prefer the hoary one over the new breezy one11:13
bob2benplaut: downgrade to the hoary version of xscreensver11:14
bob2I liked the old breezy one which had a picture of me in it11:14
benplaut:P11:14
benplautdo you know what patch/program they use for lock screen?11:14
benplautthe xss patch, by chance?11:14
aetherahmmm11:15
naliothbob2: it sure is nice, not havin the damned bots join/part eh?11:15
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aetherabenplaut: its xscreensaver thiny?11:15
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naliothbob2: just aftertaf and his flaky proxy11:17
bob2nalioth: heh11:17
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danstok thank you!11:17
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dealtgreetings11:17
aetherawhats the menu editor for gnome called?11:18
benplaut!smeg11:18
ubotuI heard smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.11:18
benplautaethera, yeah, xscreensaver11:18
benplautwell, anyway, good night everyone :P11:18
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lenhangood night benplaut; I'm going to sleep too11:19
dealtim having problems with Breezy install, im having an error during Base install stage11:19
dealtany pointers?11:19
naliothdealt: wait til oct 13?11:19
bob2dealt: did you check the cd?11:19
after8probably simplest.^211:20
dealtbob2:uhh. no?11:20
bob2then do that11:20
dealtbob2:thanks11:20
aetheraerm for warty?11:21
marc^would be much easier to get help if computers were in the same room11:21
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freezais there a libdvdcss2 for amd64?11:21
freezai cant seem to install the 32bit one11:21
dduckoaftertaf doing it that way, made me a quick and dirty script... we'll see how it goes.11:21
marc^have to walk 15 meters to the other computer, which is 2m away directly11:21
aetheramarc^: vnc :P11:21
after8or ssh11:21
after8:D11:21
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aetheraafter8: is there a menu editor for warty?11:22
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dellahi, small question on apt pinning11:22
delladeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted11:23
dellain sources.list11:23
trigger_phcan anyone help me with samba on warty? is it possible to access files shared in a Windows controlled domain?11:23
naliothaethera: smeg?11:23
dellaand11:23
dellaPackage: *11:23
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dellaPin: release a=hoary-backports11:23
dellaPin-Priority: 80011:23
bob2just don't do it11:23
bob2trigger_ph: that's not what samba does11:23
cosmosdoneis there any thing for connecting Mac OS X and an ubuntu workstation over intranet LAN which is windows PC based?11:24
dellaseem not to do what I want (e.g., packages on hoary-backports don't get priority 800)11:24
dellaany idea?11:24
Echelon-Hwhat is the command to run file-manager thingy?11:24
bob2cosmosdone: you plug them into the switch.  all done.11:24
bob2Echelon-H: nautilus.11:24
Echelon-Hthanks11:24
bob2della: it's really not worth doing that11:24
after8aethera> i'm a kde kind of user.... for me yes there is.11:24
trigger_ph@bob2 i see. what package will i need to do that kind of thing?11:24
after8aethera> for pixie, not sure ;)11:24
bob2trigger_ph: smbfs11:25
dellabob2: why?11:25
Echelon-Hbob2, you know what's the xfce one?11:25
cosmosdonebob2:yes sure there are all plugged, just cant see each other, could it be the Chinese character sets on different system? This is China......11:25
bob2della: because pinning always goes bad11:25
Echelon-Hoh, and is thre anything I can open RAR files with?11:25
bob2della: just leave backports commented out in your sources.list and enable them if you need somehting in particular11:26
bob2Echelon-H: no11:26
trigger_ph@bob2 ok..i'll wait for apt-get dist-upgrade to free up synaptic, then i'll check if i got that package installed. thanks!11:26
bob2cosmosdone: "see each other"?11:26
bob2Echelon-H: unrar11:26
cosmosdonebob2:browse each others' shared folder11:26
freezahow do i install a 32bit app in 64bit hoary?11:26
bob2freeza: you don't11:27
bob2freeza: if you care about binary-only junk, use the i386 port11:27
bob2freeza: or make a i386 chroot11:27
dellabob2: "pinning always goes bad"? why should that be?11:27
cosmosdonebob2: yes i have a workaround already just set up a LAN ftp server and log everybody in, just want to know is there anything realy easy and stupid to do it...11:27
bob2della: because people misuse it11:27
bob2cosmosdone: I don't know what you want11:28
freezawell i need the libdvdcss2 to play retail dvds and i cant find a 64bit pack for it11:28
martin_iiHi, anyone using the customized version for HP laptops ?11:28
bob2cosmosdone: if you want to share files to windows machines, install samba11:28
cosmosdonebob2: ok thanks11:28
bob2freeza: installing an i386 libdvdcss2 is not going to help amd64 apps, anyway11:28
freezaohh11:29
cosmosdonei mean it's a Mac + Linux + Windows LAN, and the gateway is a wondows 200011:29
freezaso what can i do for that?11:29
dellabob2: thanks anyway for the response, even I'f I'm not satisfied with it11:29
bob2della: okiedokie11:29
cosmosdonebob2: and different systems want to share files just by setting up defalut LAN setting, but falied11:30
after8cosmosdone> theyll need some common mutual authentification system somewhere11:31
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thespiritoftallet's say i have a gzip file which is 1 gb.. can i divide it into parts of 9mb and then get them together again?11:32
cosmosdone:after8: yeah probably....11:32
cosmosdoneshould I try smb on Mac OS X11:32
after8is the w2k server just a standalone? no domain?11:33
cosmosdoneno domain11:33
cosmosdonestandalone11:33
seliniumthoreauputic, was it you who had got rosegarden4 working?11:33
after8go samba then dude. (i dont know how, but hey ;) )11:33
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bob2thespiritoftal: of course, but that seems pointless11:33
aetheraafter8: elaborate11:33
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cosmosdoneafter8: kill me before the configuration files get me.....11:34
thoreauputicselinium: yes, I got it working with timidity as a server + freepats and jack11:34
thoreauputicselinium: a while ago - haven't used it much since :)11:34
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cosmosdonei'd wished there's a linux version of PcMacLAN11:34
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naliothselinium: what client do you use?11:34
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after8samba..... set up a samba server on linux or mac, and join the w2k to the workgroup11:34
seliniumthoreauputic, lol I will have to pick your brains at some point!11:35
kniteyay for live CD!  I just booted into my new machine (A64) for the first time.  there are no drives in the box yet, just cpu, ram, video card.  the live CD is in a USB cdrom drive.11:35
seliniumnalioth, X-chat11:35
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knite(first try actually failed, and I traced it to a corrupt CD image)11:35
naliothselinium: in the server options for freenode, put YOUR password in teh 'server password' box11:35
thoreauputicselinium: heh - I think I've forgotten most of what I did, frankly :)11:35
scanwinderdoes anyone know of a firewall or configurator for IPtables which prompts asking if u wanna allow or deny access when something attempts to access the internet?11:36
wezzer!beagle11:36
ubotuI guess beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto11:36
after8scanwinder> i was wondering that this morning in the car to work......11:36
cosmosdonei can already see the future when Vista comes out, that will be a hell of connecting my ubuntu to others....11:36
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seliniumnalioth, it is, it just joins before the nickserv  message is sent/received.11:36
naliothscanwinder: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&from=rss11:37
naliothselinium: if you put it in the "server password" and not hte "nickserv password" you wont be bumped into -unregged11:37
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thoreauputiccosmosdone: if MS make it hard to connect, they will be shooting themselves in the foot11:38
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seliniumnalioth, Ok, I see. :) I have changed the settings, lets see! See you in 2. :)11:38
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after8cosmosdone> plus you'll probably have to submit DNA befre getting a license key for it11:39
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knitei want to test the media capability (music, video) of ubuntu... can anyone suggest a website to go grab sample media from?11:41
seliniumnalioth, No bumping! cool!11:41
naliothselinium: see?11:41
seliniumnalioth, :P Didn't disbelieve you! :D11:41
scanwindernalioth: i just skimmed that article..........i read anything about any of the tools prompting..........did i just not read it carefully enough or does it not mention it?11:41
naliothselinium: i use irssi, i have to write all my settings by hand11:41
scanwindernalioth: i mean i didnt read anything about any of the tools prompting11:41
knitei just tried to go to NPR to grab a streaming audio, and found that i can't listen to either windows media or real audio...  how embarrassing11:41
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after8scanwinder> as per norton computer crasher?? i dunno if that existd for nux11:41
naliothscanwinder: i have no direct knowledge of iptables, b/c ubuntu doesnt need a firewall11:42
bob2knite: so use mplayer11:42
seliniumnalioth: I do use irssi, but only if I cant get X up. I need to learn abit more on how to use it properly.11:42
nalioth!tell knite about restricted11:42
bob2knite: assuming you read wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:42
scanwindernalioth: why dosent ubuntu need a firewall?11:42
naliothselinium: irssi is only limited by your scripting (or googling) abilities11:42
naliothscanwinder: b/c by default, it has no open ports11:43
scanwindernalioth: is it not vulnerable without one?11:43
kniteare there good free format stuff i can find?  know where?11:43
scanwindernalioth: ok11:43
bob2Windows only needs a firewall on the desktop because it's misdesigned11:43
naliothscanwinder: also it's not another OS we are all familier with that allows everything in the world to come in and stay awhile11:43
bob2and lets random shit bind ports for no reason11:43
knitei'm limited to what i can run off of the live CD11:43
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after8scanwinder> see the bit about "Safety in Linux"??? months -vs- 4 minutes ;)11:44
after8knite> go hardrive dude ;)11:44
seliniumnalioth: true, but when it gets switched on I am having to browse with LYNX... So it is a bit arduous. I have to remeber to do some research when the pc isn't playing up!11:44
scanwinderdoes anyone know how i can get dashboard working in ubuntu? i cant find any repositories for it11:45
after8selinium> lynx pwns :D  it helped me yesterday without X11:45
naliothselinium: you can use 'gnu screen' and irssi and NEVER havta log off again11:45
kniteafter8, no HD in this machine yet!11:45
bob2does dashboard even exist anymore?11:45
bob2I thought best replaced it11:45
after8knite> oh yeah i remember ;)11:45
scanwinderbob2: www.nat.org/dashboard/ looks like it11:45
mumblesdamm back to work11:45
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scanwinderbob2: i heard that they're not doing much with it at the moment because they're waiting for beagle to be stable11:46
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seliniumnalioth, how do you mean gnu screen?11:46
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scanwinderhow do i install dashboard via CVS?11:47
naliothselinium: i mean open a terminal and type "screen"11:47
dave1974hi everyone11:47
VoXwhen trying to run an opengl game, it comes back with "Could not load OpenGL library". yet glxgear, gltron, etc all work fine. it has only started happening since i changed my monitors sync rates in xorg.conf. any ideas?11:48
naliothdave1974: welcome11:48
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after8selinium> you'll learn to love screen once you start :)11:48
bob2scanwinder: by reading it's instructions11:48
seliniumnalioth, after8 : It just seems to have opened to command line, what is its purpose?11:49
after8selinium> ohoooo.....11:49
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dave1974I'm havin' trouble with a dlink dwl-120+ wireless usb card, maybe someone can help me?11:49
thoreauputicselinium: man screen *evil grin*11:49
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seliniumthoreauputic: looking now!11:50
scanwinderbob2: do i need some sort of account to use ssh with gnome? it says 2 do" :ext:[username] @cvs.gnome.org:/cvs/gnome" in the instructions11:50
thoreauputicselinium: see you in a few days ;-)11:50
after8selinium> and go to macdevcenter and search for unix gems for mac osX11:50
after8heheheh thoreauputic11:50
after8*evin grin* indeed11:50
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Madpilotthoreauputic: that has to be one of the most techno-gibberish-laden man files I've seen so far... ;)11:50
thoreauputicI stopped reading at page 38....11:51
aetherawho has some working backports for warty?11:51
Madpilotthoreauputic: I stopped on about the fourth line...11:51
after8lol Madpilot11:51
thoreauputicMadpilot: heheh11:51
bob2scanwinder: you need to read the instructions11:51
bob2scanwinder: it is available to anonymous users11:51
setitehow do i run an app from its icon in sudo11:52
after8selinium> you can run sth in shell, close the terminal, go elsewhere, connect via ssh and rejoin your running process... that is screen (about 0.15% of anyway)11:52
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Madpilotlater, all. need sleep11:52
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johnlmorning all11:52
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aetherahi johnl11:53
seliniumafter8, Cheers for the synopsis! :)11:53
johnlLatest breezy updates killed my xserver.  firstly couldn't find a core pointer (/dev/input/mice device gone!) but a restart of udev fixed that11:53
johnlnow can't find the default font fixed.11:53
thoreauputicselinium: this might be a kinder intro --> http://jmcpherson.org/screen.html11:53
johnlanyone got any clues.  the X11 font system is a mystery to me11:54
johnland probably the developers too.11:54
seliniumthoreauputic, Cheers!11:54
thoreauputic:)11:54
setitei need to configure my netgear ma111... im in kde... how do i?11:55
pescoHow do I find the package that provides a particular file?11:55
bob2johnl: no, X fonts are simple11:55
bob2setite: at the command line11:56
bob2pesco: packages.ubuntu.com11:56
pescobob2: Isn't there a command line tool?11:56
bob2pesco: apt-file or dpkg -S for installed packages11:56
VoXanyone?11:56
pescobob2: Thank you, apt-file is what I was looking for.11:57
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bob2VoX: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:57
aetherawho has some working backports for warty?11:57
bob2VoX: then restart gdm11:57
pescoIs it correct that there is no "gcc" executable on ubuntu, only "gcc-3.3" or so?11:58
smottno, probably not11:58
bob2pesco: no11:58
thoreauputicpesco: install build-essential11:58
bob2pesco: install build-essential and there will be11:58
pescobob2: Oh, ok. :)11:59
pescoI'm coming from Gentoo, takes a moment to re-adjust to the concept of binary packages that don't need building.12:00
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naliothpesco: you can build from source, if it pleases you12:00
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pesconalioth: Oh, how? Is it as simple as on Gentoo?12:01
naliothpesco: yup12:01
pesconalioth: Where do I set my prefered optimization flags?12:01
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naliothpesco: in your ~/.bashrc12:01
bob2haha12:01
pesconalioth: Alright. :)12:02
pesconalioth: So what's the magic command?12:02
bob2in practice, you don't, since it's stupid12:03
pescobob2: What is?12:03
bob2if you have benchmarked it and shown it to actually be useful, you use pentium-builder12:03
bob2pesco: funny gcc options12:03
bob2pesco: it's very very rare that they actually help12:03
ndazzalike what gentoo people use!12:03
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pescobob2: If you know what to do, they can make all the difference.12:03
naliothalright now, no busting on folks' choices12:04
magnon-Ooo12:04
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naliothpesco: here ya go12:04
bob2pesco: really?  which of your applications are cpu-bound?12:04
ndazzas/hidea/hides12:04
naliothpesco: when yer done yakkin with bob212:04
magnonthoreauputic: I could eat popcorn and read funroll-loops.org. It's entertainment :)12:04
pescobob2: Stop ranting. I have no idea. Which is why I have not compiled anything from source yet.12:04
bob2pesco: right, this is my point12:04
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thoreauputicmagnon: hahah - indeed that is a funny site :)12:05
ndazzamagnon: gets abit old after the fifth read...12:05
aetherableh12:05
aetheraI am so tired12:05
pescobob2: Yes, but there is no need to get it into me.12:05
aetherano more stroh rum for me12:05
ndazzamagnon: but the forums it links to are fun :)12:05
magnonndazza: there were updates some time12:05
ndazzamagnon: oooh updates! is it as good as breezy? :D12:05
magnon:D12:05
aetherahehehehehehe12:05
magnonsome of the quotes here are so gold12:06
pescobob2: I was just wondering what the command was, so I know, when the time comes that one of my programs is running dead-slow and I just know it's because it doesn't use the altivec-instructions my Powerbook supports.12:06
magnon"I don't think that Debian can really compete with Gentoo. Sure it might be okay, but when it comes to dependencies, you probably are still going to have to get them all on your own. Or is there something like portage in the Debian world as well?"12:06
bob2pesco: pentium-builder + apt-get source12:06
magnonand "What other linux will let you have a vector optimized wordprocessor?" bahah.12:06
thoreauputicmagnon: minus 2 : flamebait ;-)12:06
magnonthat's probably his slashdot treshold to have found all these quotes :P12:07
thoreauputicheheh12:07
mjrmagnon, well, any amd64 one, since SSE2 is used for floating point by default? ;)12:07
aetherasmeg on warty is crazy12:07
aetheranot one backport for it12:08
aethera:(12:08
thoreauputicaethera: yo don't need smeg on warty12:08
naliothpesco: here ya go: "sudo apt-get build-dep <pkgname> && sudo apt-get -b source <pkgname>  && sudo dpkg -i <pkgname.deb>12:08
aetherathoreauputic: ?12:08
naliothyes i'm ignorant12:08
aetherawhat can I use?12:08
thoreauputicaethera: you can edit menus in warty12:08
pesconalioth: Thanks, that's what I wanted to know.12:08
aetherahow :P12:08
aetheraI could not get it to work12:09
thoreauputicaethera: just type applications:/// in nautlus, from memory12:09
pesconalioth: Hm, somebody should build that into apt-get, don't you think?12:09
thoreauputicaethera: or right click the menu branch, and add12:09
naliothpesco: i use it in an alias in my .bashrc12:09
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naliothpesco: suitably altered, of course12:09
pesconalioth: Good suggestion.12:10
lenhanhehehe, I actually use gentoo and ubuntu12:12
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pesconalioth: I need to poke around in the source for some package to figure out how to get it to build. I.e. i don't want to use apt-get -b source. What do I have to do to build the .deb manually?12:14
setiteyay who wants to help me figure out this wifi thing12:14
pesco(After I've found out any special --configure flags or so)12:14
setiteim using the wiki but it doenst seem to help me configure the card12:15
naliothpesco: visit the debian homepage and click on the left side about the development/developers12:15
naliothpesco: plenty of boring stuff for your perusal12:15
thoreauputicpesco: if you just want to build a deb package for your own use you can install checkinstall and use it in place of "make install"12:16
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freezadamnit12:16
freezathe new kernel broke my ati fglrx12:16
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aetherawelcome to the world of updates :)12:17
JuerdI upgraded from hoary to breezy, and now I have no direct rendering anymore. /dev/dri/ is empty. The graphics card is identified as "Intel Corp. Mobile Graphics Controller" in lspci.12:17
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JuerdAny pointers?12:17
freezadoes the fglrx on the hoary repos work?12:17
knitei wonder if i can take out my live CD while the system is running... i guess we'll see!12:17
johnlhahaha.  I rebooted my ubuntu box now xorg works (after breezy updates broke it).  that doesn't make sense to me.12:18
naliothJuerd: wait until oct 13?12:18
bob2freeza: of course...12:18
bob2freeza: not with breezy's kernel, tho12:18
Juerdnalioth: Will waiting fix anything?12:18
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Juerdnalioth: This could be a bug, and it'd be very nice to have it resolved before the release, you know...12:18
naliothJuerd: breezy is under heavy bugfixing at the moment (and will be up until final release12:18
freezawhat about the breezy repos one?12:18
Juerdnalioth: I see.12:18
naliothJuerd: visit bugzilla.ubuntu.com and find it or report it12:19
Juerdnalioth: Will do. Thanks.12:19
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aetherahow can I restart the gnome panel?12:19
naliothaethera: open a terminal and type "killall gnome-panel"12:19
thoreauputicaethera: killall gnome-panel (it should respawn)12:19
Kalidarnanyone know what the breezy backports are? i saw them the othr day and i cannot find them anywhere anymore.12:19
dave_1974hi all12:20
Kalidarni know there were some12:20
naliothKalidarn: breezy hasnt released yet. why do you want backports?12:20
JuerdI need breezy, by the way, because my docking station's CD drive isn't recognised at all in hoary, and I had no time to figure out the details :)12:20
Kalidarnim using the preview12:20
Kalidarni know there are some though.12:20
Juerd(I don't need direct rendering at all, so I can wait)12:20
naliothKalidarn: there are no backports for breezy yet12:20
Kalidarnits worked stabely enough for me.12:20
Kalidarnhmm then what was i using the other day, me thinks.12:20
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setitehey someone told me the netgear ma111 works out of the box...12:21
VoXbob2: done that, still doesnt work :(12:21
Kalidarni did a very evil thing, formatted ubuntu for Fedora Core 4 (which i shall never do again)12:21
freezadamn ati12:21
setiteand i see it loading the prism driver when i dmesg... but its not showing on a iwconfig12:22
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deFryskKalidarn, not evil , just dumb12:22
Kalidarn;)12:22
Kalidarni couldn't kill my x server as stupid as that sounds12:22
Kalidarnevery attempt to do so came to a black screen with nothing12:22
Kalidarnthen i read on the intel site that the majority of problems were reported with redhat12:22
Kalidarnso i was like "fck this" and i went back to ubuntu and now i feel so good again.12:23
Kalidarnafter spending all day ofcourse :)12:23
deFryskfedora=bloat-rpm12:23
Kalidarnare RPMs that bad12:24
deFryskrpms are overdone packages12:24
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naliothwe should take this to #ubuntu-offtopic for i see some bashing coming12:25
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naliothbrownie17: go away, you are early12:27
freezai need 3d help12:27
brownie17is anybody familiar with GAIM instant messenger? i accdidently clicked do not show on gnome panel, and now i can't make it come back12:27
brownie17nalioth: iam here on a different matter12:27
naliothbrownie17: i'm sure. lay it on us12:27
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brownie17nalioth: read up, it's about GAIM12:28
naliothbrownie17: oh sorry, open a terminal and type "gaim --help"12:28
setiteanyoen wanna tell me how to work my ma111 in ubuntu...12:28
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setitei see this in dmesg12:28
naliothsetite: ubotu will12:28
setiteprism2usb_init: prism2_usb.o: 0.2.1-pre25 Loaded12:28
setiteprism2usb_init: dev_info is: prism2_usb12:28
setitenalioth the wifi wiki isnt helping12:28
naliothsetite: have you searched for "prism" on the wiki or forums?12:29
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brownie17nalioth, wasn't anything about it in there12:29
setiteim not using ndis.... someone said that this should work default12:29
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naliothsetite: ask bob2 when he shows back up12:30
naliothsetite: and while you're waiting, check the wiki and forums for "prism"12:30
setiteive done that already12:30
setitewhats the name of the gnome networking app12:30
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freezaanyone know where to get ndiswrapper 64bit for 2.6.12?12:31
naliothsystem > admin > networking12:31
setitethats for gnome is it not... im in kde12:31
s4f3_m0d3freeza, you compile it from source12:32
naliothsetite: try network-config (i have no clue)12:32
bob2setite: sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable12:32
setitewhoa voodoo man12:33
ndazzathere's a package called gnome-nettool12:33
bob2setite: sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_autojoin ssid=blah authtype=opensystem12:33
s4f3_m0d3freeza, its been awhile since i did it, but you basicly change the parts that say 'i386' to say 'amd64' and then compile it like normal12:33
freezak12:33
bob2setite: then dhclient or whatever12:33
setitewell i dont know the ssid12:33
setiteim gonna be running ad hoc with my psp12:33
setitesudo: wlanctl-ng: command not found12:34
freezaohh and also how do you add a dns server in the command line?12:34
naliothbob2: will those commands work on ppc?12:34
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bob2that's where they are from12:35
bob2setite: packages.ubuntu.com12:35
naliothbob2: with a ma111 like setite has?12:35
bob2hint: linux-wlan-ng12:35
setitepackages.ubuntu.com eh... hmm im assuming that is not quite the same as the repos12:35
naliothsetite: it is12:35
naliothsetite: the same12:35
bob2nalioth: the reason I know how to use it is because I had a ma-111 with my ibook12:35
bob2setite: it's a search tool for the repository12:35
setitewhat about this atmelwlandriver-tools12:36
setiteand synaptic shows linux-wlan-ng-doc12:36
bob2you don't have an atmel device12:36
naliothbob2: great! thanks12:36
bob2unless netgear changed the device but not the model12:36
setitewell it says for usb/pci/pcmcia12:36
bob2setite: well, it's there12:36
bob2setite: you still don't have an atmel device12:36
setiteoh i see what you mean12:36
setiteyea.. brainfart..12:36
setiteodd... am i missing a repo12:37
setitewhat am i missing that i dont have that tool on my repo...12:37
setiteor is that why you sent me to the site12:37
bob2no12:37
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bob2it's in main12:38
setiteodd12:38
setiteit doenst come up fo rme...12:38
bob2/etc/apt/sources.list, #flood12:38
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setiteyou want me to flood me source list there12:39
bob2no12:39
bob2"#flood"12:39
naliothsetite: thats what #flood is for12:39
p0windahhola guys, I am using breezy and trying to get freenx working. but I cant connect to seveas(spelling) mirror12:39
p0windahany suggestions ?12:39
setiteyea im asking if he wants me to flood mine or if he is gonna flood his... i knwo wha tthe room is for12:39
naliothp0windah: seveas turns it off when he sleeps12:39
bob2setite: yours12:39
naliothsetite: you flood yours in #flood12:39
p0windahwell I guess servers need to rest too :)12:39
setiteok flooding12:39
aetherahmmm12:40
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Seveasthat and I broke the repository :)12:40
p0windahah ha!12:40
Seveastrying to get debpool to play nice with me12:40
bob2setite: apt-cache policy linux-wlan-ng, #flood12:41
naliothdanged -unregged looks like a salmon spawn12:41
p0windahthe man types in his sleep :)12:41
Seveashehe12:41
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Seveasit's 12:14 here, I just woke up :)12:41
setitemine is real bad...12:41
setiteim trying to get a bunch of 64bit repos... having no luck12:41
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deFryskSeveas, 1241 I presume ?12:41
dave_1974how can I configure xchat to join here?12:41
p0windahare there any other mirrors around for i386 I could use seveas ?12:41
setitegah i need to comment out the kubuntu repos fo rnow12:42
SeveasdeFrysk, yeah :)12:42
Seveasp0windah, not that I know of12:42
p0windahI've tried the kanatix and debian ones, but they each have their own problems with breezy12:42
naliothdave_1974: in your server settings, put your password in "server password" NOT nickserv password12:42
Seveasjust wait a few hours, I'll fix the repo today12:42
thoreauputicin the server dialog, add your channels - and put your password in the server pass field12:42
p0windahsweet12:42
thoreauputicdave_1974: ^^12:42
p0windahseveas: my thanks, in advance12:43
bob2setite: well, it's in hoary/main12:43
setiteim getting the documentation file.. jus tnot eh file12:43
bob2setite: you're using amd64?12:43
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setiteyea...12:43
nalioththoreauputic: xchat is configured by ubuntu devs to automajically join here12:43
setitemaybe its that stupid us... lemme remove that12:43
bob2there you go then12:43
bob2no, it's not built on amd6412:43
setiteyour kidding...12:43
thoreauputicnalioth: yes, I know12:43
setitefucking eh12:43
aetherais it just me or everytime I try and download something12:43
aetherafirefox dies12:44
setiteyay another strike for hte love 64bit12:44
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bob2setite: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name "*prism2_usb*"12:44
naliothsetite: vulgaritys aren't helping fix your firefox12:44
setitenalioth - thanks... my firefox isny broken12:44
transgressokay12:44
transgressumm12:44
p0windahis plural vulgarities, ies or ys12:45
thoreauputicp0windah: ies12:45
setite/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-amd64-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/prism2/prism2_usb.ko12:45
naliothsetite: you can build them12:45
transgressi've tried after kopt= acpi=off and pci=noacpi ... but it is still doing the "check battery state" and hangs now that i've upgraded to breezy12:45
transgressis there anything else i can try12:45
p0windahthoreauputic: thanks12:45
transgressperhaps removing an rc*d file?12:45
bob2setite: sudo apt-get build-dep linux-wlan-ng ; apt-get source -b linux-wlan-ng12:46
naliothsetite: you'll end up with a .deb you can install and save12:46
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setiteimma post this on the forum... is that ok?12:46
setiteill credit you12:46
scanwinderhas anyone got an imation disc stakka working in linux?12:46
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naliothsetite: everyone knows bob2 is a very advanced AI and knows all12:47
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transgressanyone have a suggestion?  i'd really like to get breezy to boot12:47
bob2transgress: apic=off might be worth a shot12:47
bob2transgress: don't forget to file a bug12:48
dave_1974tnx12:48
transgressi've tried after kopt= acpi=off and pci=noacpi ... but it is still doing the "check battery state" and hangs now that i've upgraded to breezy12:48
transgressapic?12:48
aetherabrb12:49
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transgressbob2: did you mean acpi?  or is that something different?12:49
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GeckoHello there. I was wondering if there is any mirrors of ubuntu currently in China? The torrent is extremely slow12:50
setiteit failed bob12:50
bob2transgress: different12:50
bob2setite: "failed"?12:50
setiteya... ill flood the failure in #flood12:50
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kenli cant see anything after ubuntu loads into gnome12:51
kenlall i see is lines with colors12:51
kenlcant see the desktop properly12:51
setiteshould i fakeroor it12:51
transgressbob2: k rebooting now.12:51
transgressthanks12:51
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transgressbob2: still nothing.  it still hangs at "Checking Battery State"12:53
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setitebob2 my pc shut off.. i missed whatever you said12:54
setitecould you please repost the commands...12:54
setitebecause of the crash konsole didnt save them12:54
Hergiswiblame canada12:54
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bob2setite: look in the dir12:55
setitedir?12:55
kenlls12:56
setitei dont recall where the program tried to make the file12:56
bob2setite: the directory you ran that in12:56
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bob2since it already generated at least one dir12:56
setitehmmm ok12:56
setiteok12:56
setitei see a makefile among others12:56
setiteshoudl i try to make it12:56
bob2no12:56
bob2up fro mthere12:56
transgressokay i added acpi=off to the kernel line and now it hangs at Starting hotplug subsystem12:57
setitethere a configure.sh to12:57
setiteup?12:57
bob2setite: in the directory above that12:57
CrTrhow could i see the version of some probram ?12:57
setitei build it in my home12:57
setiteoh i see what you mean12:58
setitehaha12:58
setiteit maid a few12:58
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setitea .diff.gz, tar.gz, and the .deb is the foc file12:59
setiteoh its doc + the file12:59
setitecan you still tell me the commands again so i can post them on the forum... so other people can know this12:59
setiteim posting the whole thing.. crediting you... so that people know how to do this without ndiswrapper01:00
transgressalso what about this... i got it to boot in recovery mode... but i can't start gdm... error is "Fatal server error:  could not open default font 'fixed';01:00
setitebecause i looked and didnt see a suitable thread01:00
transgressbob2: any clue with that?01:00
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setitenvm bob.. i have a log01:01
after8transgress> i got that too........ you dont have everything installed that it needs....01:01
transgressafter8: k.  will a dist-upgrade get them if i try it again?  or do i need to hand grab some packages?01:02
after8transgress> try re updating, then re dist-upgrade & upgrade, and also dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-base01:02
transgressafter8: k thanks01:02
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after8transgress> dont hand grab, but its a little scary going breezy right now (scared me anyhow:)01:02
transgressyeah a lot of shit is downloading for xorg01:02
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transgressafter8: was a breeze (oh a pun!) on the laptop i'm using01:02
after8transgress> no end to the updates = good sign + frightening...01:03
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transgressthe difference between the two was this though01:03
after8lol :D bad one, but lol01:03
transgresslaptop was strictly kubuntu...01:03
aetheraeish firefox is unstable01:03
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transgressand then after i dist-upgraded kubuntu, it worked fine... then i apt-got ubuntu01:03
transgressand it works fine01:03
after8transgress> yep me too... a strict kubuntu worked fine, but all the gnome stuff... seems both at once is more wobbly01:04
transgressyep01:04
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transgressafter8: you have a desktop that you did it with?01:04
alturigoI'm really desperate with some usb issue... if I have my wireless usb plugged when booting it won't work, message: device not accepting address 5, error -110, if I replug it it'll work fine, any ideas please?01:04
transgressalturigo: is your hotplug starting up?01:05
after8transgress> yep, but one freshly installed with kubuntu.. worked a treat (almost)01:05
transgressand what kind of wireless usb device01:05
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after8i have hotplug hanging on boot with my sb modem too...01:05
transgressafter8: well i'm having mine hang at Checking System Clock on the desktop i'm working on now01:05
transgresserr01:05
transgressChecking battery01:06
transgressrather01:06
transgressnot system clock01:06
after8i have to unplug it before boting, then reinstall each time ...01:06
after8transgress> yep me too... change console ;)01:06
setitehey bob what do i do after installign that01:06
setitethe sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable still errors01:06
transgressafter8: change console?  eh?01:06
after8you can alt+F2 ?01:06
transgressoh01:06
alturigotransgress, yes hotplug works fine and its a prism device. it always fail to load at boot even if I change the module to use. if I do lsusb, the device won't appear01:06
bob2setite: you'd have to show us the error...01:06
bob2transgress: file a bug01:06
setitesame as before sudo: wlanctl-ng: command not found01:07
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bob2dude01:07
bob2come on01:07
transgressbob2: i will in a few... right now i'm most concerned with getting it to boot... as it is my work computer.  then i'll file a bug... then i'll jerk off... then i'll sleep.  i have priorities, you understand01:07
bob2did the linux-wlan-ng package build?01:07
setiteyes01:07
bob2did you install it?01:08
setiteyup01:08
sentinelI recently added another virtual host with postfix, and since then, it's been screwed01:08
bob2setite: dpkg -l linux-wlan-ng | tail -n101:08
sentinelI did the usual postmap/whatnot things, and now all logins are rejected01:08
setiteun  linux-wlan-ng  <none>         (no description available01:08
setiteill flood the install01:08
bob2then it's not installed01:09
sentinel"Fatal Error reading authentication information from client"01:09
sentinelanyone know how to solve the problem?01:09
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bob2setite: you'd need to put your logs and postfix config on line01:09
setite??01:09
SeveasI think he meant sentinel ;)01:10
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transgresshow... odd... linux-k7 was in my apt-cache after that last update... but i did an update and then a search about 5 minutes ago and it wasn't there.01:10
transgresssomeone else had that problem earlier tonight01:11
dbzdeathhey is it possible to get apt-get to make multiple connections when it downloads files from repositories?01:11
bob2no01:12
after8transgress> it keeps changing.... 80 new updates in 1/2 hour01:12
setiteits pretty fast as it is01:12
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dbzdeathdammit01:12
transgressafter8: yeah i know.  gotta love release candidates01:12
setitei dont think they want to kill it with everybody having multiple connections01:12
after8hehe01:12
bob2setite: linux-wlan-ng-doc != linux-wlan-ng01:12
transgressbut breezy is sexy enough to hump01:12
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tha_gamemasteri'm having a bit of trouble using wget, i read the man a few times, how do i mirror an ftp that requires login and pass (yes i have that information)01:13
setitemeaning? that that package is the full package01:13
bob2setite: it means they are completely different things01:13
setitethats the only deb01:13
setiteand it said doc+01:13
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Seveastha_gamemaster, wget --mirror ftp://user:pass@site/01:14
setiteinux-wlan-ng-doc_0.2.0+0.2.1pre21-1_all.deb so i thought it was doc 0.2.0 plus the ng 0.2.1...01:14
tha_gamemasterSeveas: thanks!01:14
setitewell if its just the doc... then i don tknow what to do since it errors01:14
setitelemme look in these tarballs01:14
bob2setite: the _ seperates the components of the name01:15
mustafuinstalling from the 5.10 preview CD, is it relatively safe to dist-upgrade, I wonder?01:15
bob2packagename_version_architecture.deb01:15
mustafuafterwards, I mean01:15
transgressgah01:16
Seveasmustafu, yes it is01:16
transgressgdm still will not start01:16
Seveastransgress, hit it with a hammer :)01:16
gorillaHi all, does anyone know the nut driver to use for proffice UPSs. The recommended software is winpower.01:16
Seveas(or post the error and xorg.conf online)01:16
transgressSeveas: awesome idea01:16
transgressafter8: did you do anything else to fix that error?01:16
setitejesus01:16
Seveassetite, yes?01:17
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gorillaSeveas, you are not jesus :-P01:17
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setiteyou can claim the name if you can make a suitable 64bit deb of linux-wlan-ng01:17
setiteim clearly incapable01:18
bob2it probably wouldn;t be hard01:18
locomortoDoes anyone know of a light blue/blue theme (GTK/Metacity)?01:18
bob2but I don't have an amd6401:18
SeveasSorry, I have no 64bit system01:18
after8transgress> can u get X running?01:18
after8without gdm?01:18
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naliothsetite: i would, but i dont have an amd64 box01:18
transgressafter8: no01:18
er4z0r~hia01:18
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spiralhi01:18
Seveastransgress, can you post the error and xorg.conf online01:18
er4z0rcan you tell me how to configure which user get the mail for root?01:19
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Seveaser4z0r, in /etc/aliases you can specify that01:19
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orangeyhey all!01:19
transgressalso what about this... i got it to boot in recovery mode... but i can't start gdm... error is "Fatal server error:  could not open default font 'fixed';01:19
er4z0rSeveas: thanks01:19
transgressSeveas: ^01:19
locomortohey orangey01:19
orangeywhat's the "latest" hoary-compatible kernel?01:19
gorillauname -a01:19
bob2transgress: install x-window-system-core01:19
osfameronAha!  Ubuntu doesn't set up my default printer paper to be A4.  I'm in Europe, we use A4, isn't it possible for setup to just magically figure that out?01:19
bob2orangey: 2.6.1001:19
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transgressbob2: thanks01:20
Seveastransgress, right, backup your xorg.conf and do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:20
orangeybob2: how hard would it be for me to try to get 2.6.12 from breezy?01:20
transgressSeveas: just tried that01:20
Seveasorangey, that kernel has issues on hoary01:20
tucozhi, I just updated my xorg drivers, and need to verify the resolution I am currently running at. How do I do this?01:20
Seveastransgress, did you do a full install? (ie: ubuntu-desktop installed)01:20
orangeyI'm guessing that there are no 2.6.13 debs for ubuntu out there01:20
orangeySeveas: what sorts of issues?01:21
transgressSeveas: it was ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop that i dist-upgraded to breezy01:21
setiteim removing the us. from my repos01:21
locomortoorangey: the 2.6.13 kernel is still quite buggy01:21
naliothorangey: why do you want a testing kernel?01:21
deFrysktucoz, system prefs screenreso01:21
transgressbob2: it has those and doesn't upgrade them01:21
tucozdeFrysk, thanks01:21
Seveasissues like not cooperating nicely with hal/dbus/pmount01:21
locomortoorangey: you should see .debs of it later on in universe (in breezy of course)01:21
orangeynalioth: well, I "need" 2.6.12.. and I can patch that with what I want.01:21
after8!tell tucoz about resolution01:22
Seveasorangey, you might as well consider the switch to breezy01:22
orangeybut 2.6.13 would mean that I don't need the patches..01:22
locomortoorangey: then build your own kernel01:22
tucozdeFrysk, ok. I should have mentioned that I have the kubuntu-desktop installed01:22
locomortoorangey: what patches?01:22
orangeylocomorto: snd_maestro3 patches01:22
orangeyfor volume control buttons on evo laptops01:22
deFrysktucoz, open kcontrol and look for the sreen section01:22
orangeylocomorto: http://bgoglin.free.fr/evoN600c.php#VolumeControl01:23
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deFrysktucoz, on #kubuntu they know more of this01:23
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tucozdeFrysk, ok, I'll do that.01:23
tucozdeFrysk, probably. Didn't know that channel existed. Thanks01:23
bob2orangey: hard01:23
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locomortoorangey: so you don't get events at all when you press the keys (check using xev (in console))01:23
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setitebob2 shoudl i just force the 3201:23
orangeylocomorto: it's a long-long standing problem.. they're not "keys", they're acpi events01:24
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bob2setite: what does "force the 32" mean?01:24
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bob2setite: if you mean dpkg --force-arch linux-wlan-ng_i386, no01:24
setitewlanctl-ng: Function not implemented01:24
setitebob2 i forced the 32bit version to install.. now my error is01:24
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setitewlanctl-ng: Function not implemented01:24
bob2that's really not going to work01:24
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setiteoh well i tried01:25
naliothSeveas: they're running like salmon in -unregged01:25
setiteill check the xlink forums01:25
transgressshould anything happen when i do dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-base ?  because somethings runs for a split second then drops me back to a shell no questions asked01:25
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orangeyincidentally, how far away are we from breezy?01:26
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transgressyears01:26
deFryskorangey, 13 oct away01:26
naliothoct 13 officially01:26
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Seveastransgress, check whether the -desktop packages are still installed01:26
er4z0rSeveas: do you know how it is possible to forward rootmail to a remote system?01:26
Seveasdist-upgrade removed them on my system :)01:26
Seveasroot: someone@someplace.else01:26
Seveas(in /etc/aliases(01:26
transgressSeveas: yes they are01:26
orangeywoah!! that's awesome.01:27
gorilla*BUMP* does anyone know the nut driver to use for proffice UPSs. The recommended software is winpower.01:27
setiteok see you guys later... guess even for interfacing my psp... my luck will be better in windozwe01:27
er4z0rSeveas: ok, now that was to obvious ;)01:27
p0windahmgs4 trailer... wooo01:27
p0windahmaybe even a wooo!01:27
orangeyso, y'all recommend the move to breezy now?01:28
orangeyor wait?01:28
Seveasorangey, only for the daring :)01:28
transgressorangey: what do you have installed?  ubuntu-desktop?  kubuntu-desktop?01:28
orangeyincidentally, I'm a kubuntu user.01:28
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Seveasand the ones with big download pipes :)01:28
transgressorangey: only?01:28
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orangeytransgress: pretty much.. I think there may be some ubuntu-base in there01:28
transgressorangey: if you only have kubuntu-desktop, it'll go over like a breeze01:28
transgressif you have both... it doesn't go so well01:29
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orangeytransgress: hurricane-force breeze?01:29
transgressha01:29
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orangeytransgress: and if only ubuntu-desktop?01:29
transgresshaven't done that one01:29
transgressbut i've done a mix on two systems, and it has acted screwy both times01:30
orangeytransgress: ok.. but we're really close to october 13..01:30
transgressand i've done kubuntu only on two, plus after8 said his kubuntu only worked grand01:30
orangeyis it that lots of the work will happen in the next month?01:30
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transgresson this box i'm talking with i did a dist-upgrade w/ kubuntu only, then did an aptitude install ubuntu-desktop afterwards and it works great01:30
transgressso... i wonder with windoze64 if flash will compile a 64bit version anytime soon...01:31
deFrysktransgress, ask macromedia01:31
transgressmaybe i will01:32
transgresswell adobe now01:32
orangeytransgress: ubuntu-desktop is half there..01:32
deFryskto whom it may concern01:32
orangeytransgress: I'll let you know how it goes, but I'll likely wait a week or two before upgrading.. : )01:32
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Adrossoops, forget the slash01:33
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transgressi think i may just burn a breezy disc and clean install on my desktop...01:33
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transgressthis is becoming a real pain trying to fix01:33
transgressand i'm tired01:33
D13GU__hi all! how to install sshd in ubuntu?01:34
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naliothD13GU__: install "openssh-server"01:34
cr4sheryeay I'm In01:34
D13GU__i use aptitude install ssh01:34
cr4sherso whats this changes you guyz..?01:34
mustafuaptitude = ?01:34
naliothD13GU__: then aptitude install openssh-server01:34
D13GU__ok01:34
naliothcr4sher: channel is secured against spambots01:35
jlorncan anyone tell which file I need to edit to change my screen resolution01:35
naliothmustafu: synaptic and aptitude are frontends for apt-get01:35
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transgressjlorn: xorg.conf01:35
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Cr4Sh_ok01:35
deFryskjlorn, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:35
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transgressjlorn: /etc/X11/xorg.conf to be exact01:35
jlornthank you01:35
D13GU__nalioth, the aptitude install ssh have problems?01:36
Cr4Sh_hey giuz anyone!1 i need help with Video playback01:36
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transgressi need slee01:36
transgressp01:36
transgresslater guys01:36
after8gd luck transgress ;)01:36
Cr4Sh_I have installed allt eh needed codecs form the web.. but still dont work..01:36
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Cr4Sh_can someone give me the name of good DVD playback softwae and codedc01:36
icewtvlc01:37
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Seveazok, so network-manager sucks....01:37
rob^anyone know where webmin is installed to via apt-get?01:38
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abusadohow to get a Compiler for Ubuntu like GCC??01:38
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Seveazabusado, apt-get install build-essential01:38
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ukhis there such a thing as a "Ubuntu Annoyances Explained for Debian Morons"?  I could use one.01:40
p0windahI can do that for you01:40
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freeza can 3 versions of gcc exist in the same system?01:42
abusadohow to get a Compiler for Ubuntu like GCC?? using the package manager?01:42
Whistleris ati drivers finnaly working wit breezy?01:42
naliothfreeza: yes they can01:42
naliothabusado: install "build-essential"01:43
freezacuz breezy repos installed gcc401:43
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freezamy ati is broken01:43
freezait was working before i compiled breezy kernel01:43
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Angel-SLhi01:44
Angel-SLi cant seem to find curses01:44
Angel-SLin apt-get01:44
after8Angel-SL> type apt-cache search ncurses...  theres a ncurses dev package you'll see, and youll get its name that way.01:45
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deFryskapt-cache search libncurses would shorten the list a bit01:46
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gabaugif I want to change the permissions on all the .php files in a deep directory structure with one command, can I do something like chmod -R g-w */**/*.php ?01:47
bob2if you have a decent shell, yes01:47
gabauggreat, thanks01:47
gabaugexcellent01:48
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bob2or find ./ -name "*.php" -type f -print0 | xargs -0 chmod g-w01:48
bob2no need for -R, tho01:48
wezzer!beagle01:48
ubotuI heard beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto01:48
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prolsd!tell prolsd winmac_fstab01:51
prolsd!tell prolsd NTFS01:51
prolsdhm, wtf01:51
prolsd:D01:51
prolsd!tell prolsd mount01:52
mustafu!tell prolsd about mountwindows01:52
prolsdhehe, cheers.01:52
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gabaughow can I figure out what runlevel I'm at?01:58
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bob2you're in 201:58
bob2which is the same as 301:58
bob2and 401:58
bob2and 501:58
CaiN_SAtype : runlevel01:59
gabaugthank you01:59
HoxzerN 2 :O01:59
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bob2tho, if you're asking because you're trying to install nvidia drivers, you're on the wwrong track01:59
gabaugis the best way to add services (that have init.d entries) to start automatically on boot to go old school and symlink them in?02:00
CaiN_SAlol bob202:00
gabaugbob2: nope, no nvidia here. no X, in fact02:00
bob2use update-rc.d02:00
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instaCan anyone help me with the client : server model for getting several kubuntu workstations to authenticate against a single ubuntu-server "login server" ?02:01
bob2LDAP is what you want02:01
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gabaugbob2: thanks so much...you're very patient02:02
nalioththat bob2 is a machine.....02:02
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instabob2: can I configure LDAP to override the native Linux login?02:02
insta#debian was very unhelpful :(02:03
bob2insta: of course02:03
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bob2#debian has a right to be unhelpful if you're not actually using Debian02:03
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arschhi02:03
sentinelheh, I managed to sort that problem by tinkering around for a bit... but now I seem to have a different one... /etc/resolv.conf seems to keep getting changed to "search\nnameserver 192.168.0.1"02:04
arschive got a asus laptop02:04
bob2sentinel: that would be ytour dhcp server02:04
instabob2: can the same LDAP setup also be used to authenticate windows workstations in the same manner, using the same usernames and passwords?02:04
arschit has fn function keys too, but when i try to adjust the brightness, it does work, but theres a sort of lag, a time delay till the laptop changes the light02:04
naliotharsch: just ask your question02:04
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bob2insta: yes02:04
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sentinelbob2: would I be able to sort the problem by removing global write permissions? heh02:05
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bob2sentinel: that seems somewhat silly02:06
bob2sentinel: simplest is to fix your dhcp server02:06
bob2failing that, configure your dhcp client to ignore it02:06
arschanybody got an ide?02:06
sentinelbob2: the DHCP server doesn't need to be fixed02:06
arschidea02:06
bob2sentinel: then why is it giving you incorrect values?02:07
bob2insta: http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:rro7zxKsh6AJ:www.bayour.com/LDAPv3-HOWTO.html+debian+samba+turbo+ldap+kerberos+howto&hl=en&client=firefox-a02:07
sentinelbob2: no idea, it assumes my router is my nameserver02:08
bob2...02:08
bob2then it's broken02:08
bob2anyway, /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf02:09
CaiN_SAbob2, you hope insta doesnt ask to much02:09
CaiN_SAbecoz explaining full ldap would be a major pain02:09
bob2yes, hence pointing him/her at a book )02:10
CaiN_SAhehe02:10
arschnobody able to help me?02:11
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CaiN_SAarsch, what you need help with ?02:11
freezawhere does synaptic store the packages it downloads?02:11
aftertaffreeza> /var/cache/apt/archive02:11
arschive got a asus laptop, it has fn function keys too, but when i try to adjust the brightness, it does work, but theres a sort of lag, a time delay till the laptop changes the light02:11
CaiN_SA /var/cache/apt/archive02:11
sentinelty for the help anyway :)02:12
aftertafarsch> wazzup ?02:12
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apokryphosarchives/ ;-)02:12
arschlook up, there it is02:12
bob2wtf02:12
CaiN_SAbob2, how i reconfigure xorg again ?02:12
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bob2I told sentinel 2 ways to fix the problem02:12
freezaok thanks02:12
aftertafarsch> look up what?02:12
bob2what  a waste of time02:12
apokryphosCaiN_SA: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:12
CaiN_SAthx02:12
bob2CaiN_SA: sudo dpkg-reconfgigure xserver-xorg02:12
arschhere it is: ive got a asus laptop, it has fn function keys too, but when i try to adjust the brightness, it does work, but theres a sort of lag, a time delay till the laptop changes the light02:12
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bob2arsch: then file a bug02:13
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aftertafbob2> :)02:13
arschno solution?02:13
bob2arsch: the solution is to file a bug02:13
bob2how many ACPI experts do you think are here now?02:13
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aftertafor check your warranty...02:13
arschi dont know, i just thought you could help me02:14
arschman02:14
abusadohow can i install WINE using PACKAGE MANAGER?02:14
arschits a ubuntu problem, it works under windows02:14
freezaacpi doesnt work on my crap either and i just updated to breezy kernel02:14
arschi just wanted to ask if anybody here knows a solution02:14
aftertafabusado> find wine in package manager, click on it, the apply!02:14
apokryphosubotu: tell abusado about wine02:14
bob2arsch: so, file a bug so it can be fixed02:15
abusadoi cant find WINE in the package manager02:15
CaiN_SAbob2, any way of making that reconfigure not asking anything like when you install ?02:15
arschonly because you cant help me?02:15
arschever thought about other people?02:15
aftertafCaiN_SA> normally it uses your answers from last time....02:15
CaiN_SAaftertaf, i dont want it to ask, the installer doesnt aks :)02:16
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bob2arsch: wtf02:16
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aftertafarsch> it is most likely because there is a bug in the acpi02:16
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bob2arsch: stop whining and file a bug so a kernel hacker can fix it02:16
arschshut up02:16
aftertafarsch> if you file abug, you'll help other people02:16
CaiN_SAlol02:17
CaiN_SAidiot02:17
bob2holy hell02:17
bob2what is wrong with people02:17
CaiN_SAaftertaf, any ideas02:17
aftertafarsch> if you leave, you'll help us !02:17
bob2CaiN_SA: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh02:17
aftertafbob2> wtf indeed!!!!02:17
CaiN_SAbob2, i promise you he cant even use windos02:17
CaiN_SAthx bob02:17
aftertafyou win some , you lose some.....02:18
aftertafNext.......... :D02:19
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alice|wl_hello, triing to connect to a wlan with wep key, the tool asks me for a passphrase I think but I only have the key, where can I set it ?02:20
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CaiN_SAbob2, thx for all your help02:22
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gabbermanAnyone can help with Ubuntu sound issues?02:23
CaiN_SAlol02:23
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gabberman:)02:23
gabberman?02:23
CaiN_SAhehe02:23
CaiN_SAjust ask dude, dont ask if you can ask02:23
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gabbermanwell im uber noob......02:24
gabbermannever used linux b402:24
gabbermanever02:24
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gabbermanit cant find my soundcard02:24
CaiN_SAlots of you out there02:24
CaiN_SAwhat soundcard do you have ?02:24
gabbermani dont even know what sound card I have...so I dont know what im looking for02:24
CaiN_SA:/02:24
gabbermanfound this PC in a shed02:24
gabbermanput Ubuntu OS on it02:24
CaiN_SAyou still have windows on ?02:24
gabbermannope02:24
CaiN_SAok02:25
gabbermanformatted when ubuntu put on..02:25
CaiN_SAopen termanel02:25
gabbermansound card worked under 95 tho..02:25
gabbermanterm open02:25
CaiN_SAsay : sudo lspci02:25
gabberman1 sec02:25
CaiN_SAand paste in my pvt02:25
CaiN_SAnot in channel02:25
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alice|wl_nobody for the wep -key ?02:26
johnlalice|wl_, I'm not sure, but I think this might be a bug and it's fixed in the upcoming breezy release02:27
johnlbreezy has a box to select key or passphrase02:27
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osfameronI use wifi_radar, which is just about OK02:28
osfameronwill breezy have a nice VPN client?02:28
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bob2blah vpn02:29
ompaulosfameron, sudo apt-get install openvpn will get you the best one I know02:30
bob2do you mean "support for various random vpns systems" or "support for windows vpns"?02:30
osfameronompaul: cool, thanks02:30
sambagirlwhen i try to login using sharing it requests a pw i dont recall giving a pw.02:30
mjr(it would be nice if ubuntu got support for opportunistic ipsec, but for now, openvpn is good :)02:30
p0windahI know linux uses firewall technology02:30
ompaulp0windah, can use if you need to02:30
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freezaok i have the smart battery kernel patch02:32
freezabut how do you patch a kernel?02:32
frans-thanyone have ubuntu logo very very big for my ubuntu website02:32
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Kagome_006help!02:33
Kagome_006lol02:33
bob2frans-th: the ubuntu logo is trademarked02:33
CaiN_SAbob2, help here quick gabberman has isa soundcard02:33
ompaulfrans-th, you can get all the info you need here: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy/view?searchterm=logo02:33
CaiN_SAand its not working02:33
freezawhere can i get cool tux screensavers for gnome?02:33
freezaor02:34
freezatux backgrounds02:34
Kagome_006how do i configure my browser to dail02:34
Kagome_006up02:34
frans-thbob2: trademarked? what is that mean, we cannot use it?02:34
ompaulfreeza, not to be too blunt but if you fire up a browser click on image and search for Tux02:34
frans-thbob2: i have a ubuntu.or.id, the ubuntu user group02:34
bob2frans-th: I don't know, it depends02:34
bob2I don't do ISA02:35
Kagome_006linux rocks!02:35
frans-thbob: what is the restricted of ubuntu ?02:35
CaiN_SAlol bob202:35
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ompaulfrans-th, read the trademark doc - it says what you have to do to use it - and some of what you can't do02:35
osfameronompaul: openvpn looks very, um, comprehensive... but much better documented than pptp/ppoe manpages02:35
bopperhow do i configure my browser to use dial up?02:36
ompaulpptp is a broken protocol, or at least was the last time I looked02:36
bopper.......02:36
bopperis there a help site for..02:36
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bopperhow do i configure my browser to use dial up?02:36
bob2bopper: your browser does't know or care about your internet connection02:36
bob2bopper: wiki.ubuntu.com/DialUpModemHowto02:36
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johnlhey, did anyone know xorg uses $HOME/xorg.conf if it finds it?  THAT (me not noticing it) has caused me big headaches troubleshooting this udev problem02:37
Kagome_006i have that02:37
bob2frans-th: depends what you want to do with it02:37
athlonhas anyone tried opensuse ? I like it's way of customizing the menu in DEs and WMs, wonder if breezy is going to have something similar to it02:37
bob2frans-th: info@canonical.com will be able to help you02:37
sambagirlis there a way to mount the various workstations you have added to sharing? i used ip addresses and nfs or nsf whatever it was.02:37
sambagirli want them on my desktop how i do this?02:37
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ompaulKagome_006, changing your name like that just added up to 7 lines to your query which could have been done in one [yeah I should shut up now] 02:38
apokryphoshi frans-th :). How's all the stuff going?02:38
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Kagome_006stfu02:38
frans-thapokryphos: i am managing ubuntu-id@lists.ubuntu.com :)02:38
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apokryphosfrans-th: excellent =). What about the other server stuff?02:39
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Kagome_006:P02:39
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frans-thapkoryphos: not arrive yet, but we buy it next week :)02:40
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Belutzfrans-th: if we could managed the LoCo team, we could get the www.ubuntu-id.org domain, if i'm not mistaken02:41
vijayhi need some help02:41
ompaul!tell vijay about ask02:41
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vijayjust loaded ubuntu have an atheros based wifi card02:41
p0windahvijay: dont we all, dont we all02:41
CJunkyhi all02:41
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ompaulvijay, read the notice that ubotu messaged you  :)02:42
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vijayyea i have an atheros based card i need to activate wireless i need help on that i am a newbie to linux02:42
ThePyromaniacanyone know where the configuration settings are for the main menu?02:43
ThePyromaniacSmeg is lame and it wont save any changes i make02:43
thoreauputicThePyromaniac: odd, it seems to work OK for most people02:43
ThePyromaniacwell i made an extra folder, and it went into main appliactions, not into games02:44
ThePyromaniaci cant move or update the folder02:44
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ThePyromaniacand i cant move programs into subfolders02:44
apokryphosfrans-th: excellent! Good to hear02:44
SeveasThePyromaniac, then file a bug..02:44
ThePyromaniaci cant delete them either02:44
ThePyromaniacgood plan... ^^02:44
ThePyromaniacwhere to?02:44
apokryphosfrans-th: still not using <tab> to auto-complete nicknames on here? ;-)02:44
apokryphosThePyromaniac: bugzilla.ubuntu.com02:45
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ThePyromaniacthanks guys, cya02:45
frans-thapokryphos: hehe, thx for the tips :P02:45
vijayyea i have an atheros based card i need to activate wireless i need help on that i am a newbie to linux02:46
smaugslayeranyone running breezy?  stable?  worth upgrading?  thx02:46
aftertafsmaugslayer> depends on your courage, and your luck...02:46
CJunkycan someone help me? i have some trouble with my toshiba satellite pro 4200...02:46
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smaugslayer;)02:47
CaiN_SAyes it is im my opinion02:47
CaiN_SAjust dont complain if something if breezy doesnt work02:47
avanspronsensmaugslayer: I have been running breezy for at least a month, no real problems, pretty vanilla system though02:47
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apokryphosOr be prepared to file some bugs if need be02:47
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mdeboerHello02:47
smaugslayerthx guys02:47
apokryphoshi mdeboer02:47
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vijayhow can i modify the value of CONFIG_NET_WIRELESS in the kernel?02:48
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mdeboerI was wondering if there is any chance that kernel 2.6.13 will make it into Breezy02:48
ompaulvijay, all I can do is point you to http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/ which according to the people who make the cards may help, I only do this because it may provide info that you can then use with modprobe02:48
Seveasmdeboer, there is none02:48
catfoxOT i know, but does anyone know how much it costs to run a desktop pc 24/7 ?02:48
Red_Bulletcan you help me02:48
apokryphosmdeboer: it only just came out!02:48
ompaulvijay, sorry just noticed your new to this02:48
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ompaul!tell vijay about wireless02:49
p0windahrunning pc 24/7 is cheaper than air/con02:49
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ompaulvijay, that page that ubotu just send you in a message may help02:49
Red_Bulleti start btdownloadcurses and bittornado can't connect it isn't start download it just connecting seeders :(( help me02:49
mdeboerapokryphos: so did gnome 2.12 :-)02:49
p0windahwe run 5 pc's here 24/7 and its about half the cost of running aircon for 1/2 the day02:49
p0windahlove those numbers...02:49
apokryphosmdeboer: what was the release date for that?02:49
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bob2gnome 2.12 came out the day before breezy preview02:50
ompaulapokryphos, a couple of days ago before the preview by a day or two02:50
Red_Bulleti start btdownloadcurses and bittornado can't connect it isn't start download it just connecting seeders :(( help me02:50
bob2gnome is a very special case02:51
mollepollekolleThe ubuntu installation program can't find any of my three partitions. What should I do to make ubuntu find any one of them?02:51
apokryphoswow, interesting.02:51
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apokryphosThey must be rushed off their feet02:51
aftertafmollepollekolle> IDE or SATA disks?02:51
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mollepollekolleIDE02:51
mdeboerAnyway, I don't mind packaging 2.6.13 myself, but I am wondering what ubuntu-specific changes where made to the 2.6.12 kernel, with userland implications, that might be a show-stopper when using 2.6.13 with breezy02:51
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aftertafmollepollekolle> do you have an error message?02:52
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bob2mdeboer: what does 2.6.13 have that 2.6.12 does not?02:52
mollepollekolleNope, only a bunch of questionmarks02:52
bob2apokryphos: gnome does regular beta tarball releases; ubuntu includes them in the development versiom, so the final release is not much of a change02:52
aftertafmollepollekolle> can it see a partition to install to?02:52
mollepollekolleNo02:52
apokryphosbob2: I see. Similar to kde02:53
aftertafmollepollekolle> i'd suggest you check your install CD, and double check your disks work/are present in the BIOS02:53
mdeboerbob2: it seems that it solve quite a few hardware related problems (typically laptops), but for me, the main reason would be to be able to run a low latency kernel02:53
mdeboerbob2: as in: 2.6.13 + latest ingo molnar realtime-preempt patch02:53
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bob22.6.12 has lots of acpi patches backported02:54
mollepollekolleThey all work on, since i can boot win xp on it and use all three of them there.02:54
bob2tho it doesn't matter; if you need low latency, you need a non-ubuntu kernel anyway02:54
mdeboerbob2: and this would be much easier if 2.6.13 comes properly packaged with breezy02:54
aftertafthen check your CD for errors02:54
mollepollekolleHow?02:55
mdeboerbob2: yes, but i rather patch an official ubuntu kernel, than having to ubuntuize a vanilla kernel first02:55
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aftertafmollepollekolle> that, i dont actually know.... sorry02:56
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marchhello!!02:57
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marchhi!!03:00
Whistlerhello03:00
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vijay hi i have an ASUS machine on which ubuntu is installed my lspci gives this output03:00
vijayvijay 0000:00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc.: Unknown device 0 01a (rev 01)03:00
vijayvijay will madwifi work with this can anyone please guide me a ifconfig ath0 states no device found03:00
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Whistleranybody had succeeded to run ati drivers on breezy?03:05
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Whistleranybody had succeeded to run ati drivers on breezy?03:08
icc7hello guys!!03:08
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bob2Whistler: if it doesn't work for you, file a bug if no one else has03:08
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icc7can anyone help me with my wine tools??03:09
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icc7i get this error "Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C03:09
icc7Edit the Wine configuration file"03:09
Whistlerbob2 emm how do i do that?03:10
steven_Laptophello everyone03:10
occybob2, Good morning, I am having serious troubles since I tried to follow this "howto":  http://kerneltrap.org/node/5414   I have since nuked everything and re-installed, checked the hard drive and it's fine.  my internal laptops wireless card keeps "locking up" on me though.  This is default Hoary simply updated, I haven't used that URL's stuff again since the re-install.03:10
occybob2, my question is this:03:10
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samu2i had a problem that somebody recommended me to do a "shutdown -r -F now" to fsck my rootfs03:10
samu2but then i got this:03:10
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{cYanide}hi03:11
occybob2, do you think that previous firmwire upgrade could have effected the wireless card in such a way that it isn't working properly?03:11
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bob2Whistler: bugzilla.ubuntu.com03:11
{cYanide}er how can i set a folder and its entire contents to 777?03:11
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occybob2, even though I'm back to the old firmware revision that came with Ubuntu that worked fine for months with no problems?03:11
Emielcan anybody help me with the hotplug problem? Ubuntu doesn't start03:11
thoreauputic{cYanide}: not recommended...03:11
icc7can anyone help me with my wine tools??03:11
marcin_anthi all03:11
icc7i get this error "Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C03:11
{cYanide}its just a game03:11
lonewolff{cYanide}: chmod -R 777 <foldername> if you are really sure you want to do that03:11
icc7Edit the Wine configuration file"03:11
marcin_antshort question - is there a package with java 1.5 for breezy?03:12
samu2unexpected inconsistency : run fsck manually03:12
bob2occy: it's possible, but I'd think unlikely03:12
samu2so, how do i run fsck manually then?03:12
bob2occy: this is wit hthe hoary driver?03:12
steven_LaptopDoes anyone to how to set the time it scans for network configure at boot up? I want it not to scan more the 3 sec..?03:12
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occybob2, by locking up, I simply mean it stops working, but everything else on the laptop functions perfectly.  It's as if it just dies and says... "OK, I no longer want to be a wireless card."03:12
Whistleris there any place to talk about breezy?03:13
occybob2, yessir03:13
bob2occy: nothing in dmesg?03:13
bob2Whistler: here03:13
occybob2, not a single thing.03:13
icc7can anyone help me with my wine tools??03:13
Whistlerk03:13
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bob2steven_Laptop: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf03:13
icc7i get this error "Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C03:13
icc7can anyone help me with my wine tools??03:13
bob2icc7: no need to ask over and over03:13
EmielCan anybody help me with the hotplug problem? Ubuntu doesn't start03:13
occyoh wait03:13
knutpanybody knows the minimum requirment to run ubunto with gnome??? Pentium ??? 200 MHz   with 64 MB will work???        Knoppix live at least doen since it needs 128 MB or more.03:13
icc7i dont get any answer03:13
occybob2, I'm sorry, I do see something now.  hang on, let me pastebin this.03:13
bob2Emiel: you need to be more specific03:14
Whistlerso anybody managed to succesfully install and use ati radeon drivers?(On breezy)03:14
bob2icc7: yes, presumably because no one knows03:14
EmielK03:14
thoreauputicknutp: that spec needs a custom install03:14
bob2knutp: 64MB will not be any fun at all with gnome03:14
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occybob2, http://pastebin.com/365451    the card is an ipw220003:15
icc7the wine tools menu has appeared but the menu dont seem to have any function03:15
thoreauputicknutp: you can do a "server" install then apt-get a light window manager etc03:15
occyipw2200: Start IPW Error Log Dump:03:15
{cYanide}erm , does anyone use cedega here03:15
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knutpjust I have an old compaq deskpro 6000 - Pentium 200 MMX + 64 RAM ;( .......    JUst as desktop for surfing and emailing03:15
thoreauputicknutp: but you need to be familiar with apt to do it03:15
EmielI just installed ubuntu . It stop on the startup with Starting hotplug subsystem03:15
steven_Laptopbob2, thanks again quick ? I dont want to trash this what im I looking for to edit timeout?03:15
icc7everytime i click on any of the options it gives me the error Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C03:15
bob2occy: sure you changed the firmware baco correctly?03:16
thoreauputicknutp: that's my old box's specs and I rub hoary on it with fluxbox and sylpheed etc03:16
occybob2, yes, because I nuked the whole installation.03:16
occybob2, I nuked the laptop, and re-installed03:16
knutphuff thoreauputic ..... think Il ive up ....... only brain enought to start Linux-live-CD .. hahhaha03:16
icc7what did i do wrong??03:16
bob2occy: ah03:16
occybob2, my thinking was, go back to the way it was before when it worked perfectly.03:17
bob2steven_Laptop: from reading man dlichent.conf. it seems timeout is the right option03:17
thoreauputicknutp: it's quite possible to do it - you just need to do some learning :)03:17
bob2occy: seems reasonable03:17
steven_Laptopthanks03:17
icc7neways i used Ubuntu03:17
occybob2, the only way I can get it to "reset" itself, is to power down and come back up.  And then it works (as it is now) like a charm.03:17
occybob2, it'll work for some undeterminable time and then just die.03:17
bob2occy: unloading and reloading the module doesn't fix it?03:17
icc7anyone help03:17
samu2i cant get back into my ubuntu right now03:18
occybob2, hmmm, that is a good idea...03:18
marcin_antehh I need to try again - does anyone know if is there a package with java 1.5 for breezy?03:18
occyheh, I might disco03:18
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occybbiab if that happens03:18
knutpno brain=no pain ..... well must have more brain than other doen even try Ubuntu. BTW .... running live now ..... eh, but instaling it on my XP-PC ... nooooooo ..... or does it make a lilo-boot or somethink like that???03:18
Emielbob2lI just installed ubuntu . It stop on the startup with Starting hotplug subsystem03:18
JMFhello all03:19
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bob2anyway, partay time03:19
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JMFI have a BIG problem : I stupidly removed /tmp03:19
lastnodewhere is services.list again?03:19
Kagome_006ha ha03:19
az[a] zelsince when do geeks go to parties03:19
{cYanide}how would i increase my pagefile size?03:19
lastnodeon get-apt im being asked for a cdrom03:19
az[a] zeloh, you meant LAN party03:19
p0windah??03:19
p0windahgeeks love parties03:19
JMFI recreated it, change the rights, set the sticky bits but my box is very unstable03:19
az[a] zelheh03:19
thoreauputicknutp: you can dual-boot with win XP no troubles03:19
lastnodei forget the path to services.list03:20
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[Wiebel] anyone any idea when firefox 1.07 will be included in breezy?03:20
knutpthoreauutic .... lilo or what manager will be installed???03:20
JMFhow can I fix this ?03:20
thoreauputiclastnode: /etc/apt/sources.list03:20
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thoreauputiclastnode: to get rid of the CD entry03:20
SeveasJMF, the permissions of /tmp should be drwxrwxrwt  root root03:20
lastnodethanks thoreauputic03:20
Emielbob2 , I just installed ubuntu . It stop on the startup with Starting hotplug subsystem03:20
JMFseveas: they are like that03:20
Earthenompaul, hey03:20
thoreauputicknutp: grub03:21
knutpit there a big difference between ubnto installed and live??? More aplication ?????     speed off cause :)03:21
occybob2, ok, this might sound stuipd, but... when I do rmmod ipw2200 my gnome panel icon gives me circle with a dash in it.  When it locks up cold... it gives me this ! with some sort of dot beside it on the bottom right.  (indicating something is broken I'm guessing)   So what I'm saying is, I get different icons when it locks up versus when I just remove the module.    Does that mean anything?03:21
SeveasJMF, a reboot should help then03:21
thoreauputicknutp: pretty much the same really03:21
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gorillaknutp, there is not real difference.03:21
Seveassince the contents of /tmp are not guaranteed to survive a reboot...03:21
occybob2, I get that same icon when I press the "disable wireless network card button" that is nowhere near my keyboard, on my laptop.03:22
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knutp:(    ...... not much stuff than ......   missing XMMS (or like) ...... couldn get shoutcast to play from the live !?!?   worked on knoppix!03:22
JMFseveas: I do not think so but I do that just in case03:22
Emielcan anybody help me with this problem : I just installed ubuntu . It stop on the startup with Starting hotplug subsystem03:23
thoreauputicknutp: all those things are possible - see ubotu's URL below03:23
samu2does anybody have a link to a page with detailed instructions on doing fsck interactively?03:23
thoreauputic!docs03:23
ubotuwell, docs is an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation03:23
knutpwell perhaps thats why ubunto grow so fast - smal, and just what you need! (Not all the knoppix-package no newbie knows to use!)03:24
occybob2, the reason I say it's not located near my keyboard is that you might assume it could be easy to accidently hit it.  It's virtual impossibility to hit that key while typing.03:24
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abusadoubotu, tell abusado wine03:24
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abusadololz03:24
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JMFseveas: it worked ! thanks !03:25
thoreauputic!tell abusado about wine03:25
abusadoubotu, tell abusado about wine03:25
CJunkyi have a problem with my toshiba satellite pro 4200... after few minutes the laptop freez complete... i don't know why.03:25
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JMFseveas: but I still find this very wierd, I tried to quit the session and log in again but it was all fucked up03:25
abusadohow long does it take for ubuntu to install wine???03:25
JMFseveas: I did not think a reboot would fix that03:25
JMFseveas: anyway, it works :)03:26
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abusadoubotu, tell abusado about wine installation03:27
SeveasJMF things like /tmp/X11-unix are created on xserver startup and other services can do similar things03:27
Seveasreboots are very un-linux but it's just the easiest :)03:27
CJunkyi have a problem with my toshiba satellite pro 4200... after few minutes the laptop freez complete... can someone help me?03:27
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JMFseveas: I am new to Linux so I try not to use the old Windows tricks ;)03:28
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nexus-hmm ubuntu doesn't have a md5 binary03:30
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samu2sorry for being annoying, but i really would like some help on doing an fsck manually03:32
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Seveassamu2, fsck /dev/your_disk03:32
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Seveasif it is mounted: umount it03:32
Seveasif it is mounted as '/', boot from a live cd03:33
samu2I ran shutdown -r -f now03:33
LoneNightCrawlerhey guys, I have a question, how do I restart samba server on Ubuntu?03:33
cyphasehow easy is it for me to access someones router web interface using ssh tunneling?03:33
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cyphasei don't mean hacking :)03:33
Seveasthat will *skip* fsck03:33
cyphasethey want me to help them03:33
Seveas-F will *force* fsck03:33
cyphasecracking*03:33
samu2Seveas so it wants to run fsck automatically every time i boot ubuntu now, but since it fails. It tells me to run it automatically.03:33
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samu2Seveas, you are absolutely right. I meant -F03:34
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thoreauputicLoneNightCrawler: I would say sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart03:34
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Madeyeany good alternative to gaim ?03:35
p0windahpsi03:35
thoreauputicLoneNightCrawler: or sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart (same thing)03:35
samu2Seveas, so I tried running fsck with no options or anything and it starts asking me lots of questions that I'm not sure of how to respond to.03:35
Madeyep0windah, works for yahoo/msn/jabber/?03:35
samu2There was mention of some inode having its imagic flag set...03:35
LoneNightCrawlerthoreauputic, for some reason I haven't got any "samba" in init.d03:35
f00f_bughey, i upgraded to breezy, but the dist-upgrade didn't seem to work right, so i went back to hoary, but now muine doesn't do the trayicon thing anymore... and i can't get any of the plugins to compile.. any suggestions?03:35
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thoreauputicLoneNightCrawler: have you installed samba ;) ?03:36
Cr4Sh_hey guyz can some one help me out with this broken pakage I have... hen I'm trying to update the pakages i get this errors:03:36
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Cr4Sh_E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libdivxdecore0_1-0x1.5f80000000057p-1355.0.1-1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libdivxdecore.so', which is also in package libdivx4linux03:36
Cr4Sh_E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libdivxencore0_1-0x1.5f80000000057p-1355.0.1-1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libdivxencore.so', which is also in package libdivx4linux03:36
LoneNightCrawlerlol, I haven't checked, but I had a /etc/samba folder so I assumed it was03:36
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thoreauputicCr4Sh_: do not paste in here03:36
Cr4Sh_sorry03:37
Cr4Sh_can u help me please??03:37
thoreauputicLoneNightCrawler: sudo aptitude install samba03:37
LoneNightCrawlerlol, I just did an apt-get, should work now03:37
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LoneNightCrawleraptitutude?03:37
LoneNightCrawleraptitude*?03:37
joe__anyone know anything about getting hp printers working?03:37
cyphasehow can i use ssh tunneling to access someones router web interface? they need help forwarding ports03:37
thoreauputicLoneNightCrawler: either apt-get or aptitude - doesn't matter really03:37
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LoneNightCrawlerah k03:38
LoneNightCrawlerthanks03:38
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Patrik_KlerHi! Have anyone of you runned Ubuntu on a Dell PowerEdge 2850?03:38
deFryskran03:38
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LoneNightCrawlergreat, it works now.. damn I'm stupid, lol03:38
cyphasei was thinking something like, they ssh into my server, then i access a port on my server and it'll forward me to their router03:39
Cr4Sh_so guyz anyone please???03:39
gtoddIs hand xorg editing needed for Ubuntu to do dual head??03:39
f00f_bugcyphase: google for ssh tunneling03:39
thoreauputicCr4Sh_: are you using 3rd party repositories?03:39
Cr4Sh_yea03:39
gtoddI think fedora hasa system-config-display that has more widgets on it (for configuring dual head)03:39
thoreauputicCr4Sh_: don't03:39
{cYanide}erm how can i enable swap ?03:40
abusadohow can i install WINE using the Package Manager? i cant find it there03:40
{cYanide}free -m says   Swap: 0 0 003:40
deFryskCr4Sh_, hence the whatever you got03:40
Cr4Sh_no because i need to update video codecs as my current one dont work..03:40
joe__can anyone help me setting up my hp network printer?03:40
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thoreauputic!tell Cr4Sh_ about repos03:40
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thoreauputic!tell Cr4Sh_ about codecs03:41
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ljw?03:41
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gtoddI have a G400 dualhead and a builtin SVGA video card and want to attach two displays ... one card wired to X:0 and the other the X:1 ... is that doable in an easy Ubuntu way or is it emacs config file editing time for little ol' me :-\03:41
p0windahits doable03:42
p0windahits not straight forward though03:42
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kairu0hi all03:42
p0windahhello03:42
kairu0yo03:42
abusadohow can i install WINE using the Package Manager? i cant find it there!03:42
thoreauputic{cYanide}: did you make a swap partition when you installed?03:42
thoreauputic!info wine03:42
ubotuwine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB03:43
kairu0abusado, you probably dont have the universe/multiverse repos enabled03:43
deFrysk!tell abusado about wine03:43
p0windahwine is evil03:43
abusadokairu how can i enable it???03:43
p0windahI have poured too many hours down that sinkwell03:43
thoreauputicabusado: you need the universe repository03:43
carambolhello, how i configure Name Service Switch?03:43
ljwhow can i use it?03:43
thoreauputic!tell abusado about repos03:43
kairu0abusado, read the unofficial ubuntu faq (google that). its about the first item in it03:43
f00f_bugi take it no one knows about muine? :(03:43
p0windahf00f_bug: I'm guessing atleast you do03:44
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joe__hi there, anyone know anything about network printer setup?03:44
p0windahSeveas: I patiently await your respository goodness03:44
p0windahrepository, rather03:44
f00f_bugp0windah: obviously not enough :)03:44
p0windahf00f_bug: I'm sure you're a smart guy03:45
abusadoOMG im using KYNAPTIC03:45
f00f_bugp0windah: i am, but i can't get these plugins workin :) i guess i'll just have to google more, heh03:45
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samu2What is this imagic flag thing that is set on some inode?03:45
p0windahf00f_bug: when the lure of easy solutions deep within irc becomes too strong, feel free to come back03:46
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f00f_bugp0windah: you know i will03:46
p0windahI, on the other hand am firmly entranced by Seveas right now03:46
neo_HI03:46
p0windahI dont dare leave :)03:46
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neo_Somebody speak spanish?03:47
deFrysk!es03:47
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:47
samu2no habla espanol03:47
thoreauputic!spanish03:47
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.03:47
p0windahheh03:47
f00f_bugneo_: most of south america does :)03:47
abusado\03:47
p0windah!lojban03:47
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, p0windah03:47
p0windahah well03:47
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rob^^^are there any livecds being built with Ubuntu Express yet?03:48
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p0windahso any gamers in here that have some thoughts on the revolutions new controller thingy ?03:49
neo_bvye03:49
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p0windahor any non-gamers who just want to troll me ?03:49
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samu2maybe you should find a game channel to talk about it in?03:49
erUSULp0windah: please stay on-topic03:50
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p0windahok03:50
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linuxsbartleyCan anyone tell me how to get cups (localhost:631) to accept my user name and password for administration of printer setups?03:50
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ompaulp0windah, you can do stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic that is what it is there for03:50
p0windah3 responses :)03:50
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ompaullinuxsbartley, if you click on system administration printing you may not need cups :)03:51
The_BundyHello03:51
lastnodei want one of my other drives mounted on startup03:51
lastnodewhere do i add the syntax?03:51
linuxsbartleyompaul, Sorry.  I have a ubuntu 5.04 server install running xfce4.  No gnome or kde.03:51
lastnodein /etc/init.d03:51
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LoneNightCrawlerhey is it possible to change the name of your linux system that shows up on the windows network?03:52
SeveasLoneNightCrawler, edit /etc/samba/smb.conf03:52
char1iecha1khello ppl i have googled this prob (kernel panic vfs unable to mount on unknown block(104,2)) but it seems that it occurs when the kernel gets upgraded and not often when installing, which is when i am getting the problem - nay help would be appreciated03:52
linuxsbartleyI have set a root password and tried to access cups via root but it still fails.03:52
deFrysks03:53
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lastnodeif its ntfs what type do i set my drive in /etc/fstab ?03:53
lastnodelike for fat32 i do vfat03:53
gtoddp0windah, not straightforward ... ulp :-\03:54
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bluesceadantfs ?!03:54
bluesceadantfs isn't secure writable03:54
nexus-lastnode,  ntfs03:54
erUSULlastnode: ntfs03:54
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nexus-i use /dev/hda1       /mnt/system ntfs ro,umask=0222,uid=nobody,gid=nogroup 0 003:54
lastnodethanks nexus- , erUSUL03:54
nexus-mounts it read only, with umask of 222 (which means read only anyway)03:54
nexus-you might want to change the uid and gid of the person mounting it and making it nosuid as well :P03:55
EmielI found this on the forum : BootHotPlugErrors, but my ubuntu freeze when I starup03:55
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abusadohow can i install file.deb ?????????????? how to install it?03:55
lastnodedoes this look ok - /dev/hda1/media/hda1ntfsdefaults,umask=00003:56
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deFryskabusado, wich one ?03:56
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deFryskabusado, why not use apt-get/synaptic ?03:56
abusadoyahoomessenger.deb03:57
thoreauputicabusado: please don't use all those question marks - it is annoying03:57
ompaullinuxsbartley, if you don't have gnome installed but have the room for it perhaps download it and run gnome-cups-manager from inside your xfce03:57
deFrysk!tell abusado about dpkg03:57
samu2So, can somebody tell me if it's a bad thing that an inode has its imagic flag set?03:57
pybelastnode, http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows03:57
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thoreauputicabusado: why are you installing that when gaim does yahoo?03:57
char1iecha1khello ppl i have googled this prob (kernel panic vfs unable to mount on unknown block(104,2)) but it seems that it occurs when the kernel gets upgraded and not often when installing, which is when i am getting the problem - nay help would be appreciated03:58
rob^^^is there a livecD option to force 16 bit depth in X?03:58
linuxsbartleyompaul, unfortunately, due to project design  constraints, we cant use gnome or kde03:58
deFryskthoreauputic, in my experience; some people are more stubborn that I can imagine03:58
linuxsbartleywas hoping to just be able to access the web interface to configure stuff.03:58
deFryskthoreauputic, I dont even ask why anymore03:58
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nickrud linuxsbartley, add cupsys to the group shadow, restart cupsys, and you can use the web interface03:59
thoreauputicdeFrysk: ;)03:59
linuxsbartleynickrud, cool. thx.03:59
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nickrudI bloodied my head against a wall over that one once04:00
linuxsbartleynickrud, that worked great.  thx.04:00
pluffsyis resizing and adding partitions possible with free software on ubuntu? is it difficult? (on macos there atleast WAS only possible to do that with proprietary software)04:00
EmielDoes anybody know how I can login in the terminal. My ubuntu stopped at the starup at Starting hotplug subsystem...04:00
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nickrudlinuxsbartley, I was also told that can be a security risk, and I should remove cupsys from shadow when I'm done04:01
thoreauputicpluffsy: sure - gparted, qtparted, cfdisk, fdisk... bblah blah04:01
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pluffsythoreauputic: alright. great. thanks.04:01
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thoreauputicpluffsy: I haven't used gparted but it looks like a nice GUI way to do it04:02
ompaulnickrud, why not do a wiki page and tell ubotu about it :)04:02
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nickrudompaul, I thought the guy I worked this out with did so months ago04:02
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nickrudI'll look04:02
ompaulcan't find it04:02
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nickrudhe said he would ;(04:03
EmielDoes anybody know how I can login in the terminal. My ubuntu stopped at the starup at Starting hotplug subsystem... Is knoppix the only answer?04:03
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samu2So nobody knows what an imagic flag is?04:05
char1iecha1khello ppl i have googled this prob (kernel panic vfs unable to mount on unknown block(104,2)) but it seems that it occurs when the kernel gets upgraded and not often when installing, which is when i am getting the problem - nay help would be appreciated04:06
pluffsythoreauputic: just dl:ing it from synpatic. are you usually able to partition the "current volume" or whatever the system disk.04:06
pluffsyand a question mark in the end04:06
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thoreauputicpluffsy: if you want to partition smething it needs to be unmounted, of course04:06
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thoreauputicpluffsy: partitioning your / (root) would need access from e.g. a live CD04:07
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abusadowhere can i find libssl.0.9??04:08
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thoreauputicabusado: you are determined to do things the hard way, aren't you?04:08
abusadosorry04:09
abusado:)04:09
deFryskthoreauputic, :D04:09
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samu2Please? Somebody?04:10
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ebichetesamu2: What's the problem ?04:11
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samu2fsck fails, and tells me to run manually. it reports an inode having its "imagic flag" set.04:12
samu2i tried just running "fsck" but I am not sure what to answer to the questions to not screw up my file system.04:12
samu2right now, i cant get back into ubuntu04:13
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samu2its stuck in wanting to do an automatic fsck everytime i boot it04:13
abusadook i get it i installed synaptic now04:14
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pluffsythoreauputic, right. well I even have a livecd here. so guess that can be done :)04:15
ebichetesamu2: In general answer "yes" if it isn't obvious what to do. Fsck on ext2/3 is very cautious so you can't mess up your filesystem too much.04:15
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samu2ebichete but what does that imagic flag thing refer to?04:16
KyralAnyone know how to tunnel a Vino server through a SSH connection to make it secure?04:16
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ebichetesamu2: I believe it's a flag that allows ext2fs to do some extra optimization. "Google should be your friend"04:18
samu2ebichete but it isn't it's not giving me any good hits in the first 10 pages04:19
ebichetesamu2: Look for Ted Tsyo's (sp ?) pages04:19
linuxsbartleynickrud, sorry for the delay in reply.  Hmm.  Any idea how this is done in other distro's then?  i.e. I use Xandros as well.  It does not have cupsys in the shadow group but I can access localhost:631 as the root user.04:19
char1iecha1khello ppl i have googled this prob (kernel panic vfs unable to mount on unknown block(104,2)) but it seems that it occurs when the kernel gets upgraded and not often when installing, which is when i am getting the problem - nay help would be appreciated04:19
ebichetesamu2: He's the maintainer, so there should be something relevant04:19
linuxsbartleynickrud, how is ubuntu securing cupsys to prevent access as the root user or as a sudo user?04:19
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nickrudlinuxsbartley, as I remember, ubuntu modified cups for this. I think, as more info trickles into my forebrain, that there's a better way to do this04:20
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gerarconehi to all04:21
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gerarconecan someone help me? when I digit04:21
linuxsbartleynickrud, gotta run for a few.  I will check back in about 20.04:21
gerarconefree -m04:21
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pluffsyis it possible to change the emulation key used for right clicks (this is a mac) with gui? or do I have to edit a text file? in that case do you know which file?04:21
gerarconethe total RAM is 850MB, but I have 1.25GB04:21
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thoreauputiclinuxsbartley: I don't know the answer, but it might be worth running "  less /etc/cups/cupsd.conf " (probably will show you what options are enabled)04:22
nickrudlinuxsbartley, I've gotta get back to work in a few; if I find what I'm looking for quickly, i'll pm it to you04:22
gerarconecan someone recognize the problem?04:22
marcin_antis there any way to use ubuntu backports with breezy?04:22
Kyralmarcin_ant, yes I do :D04:22
thoreauputicgerarcone: you need a 686 kernel or equivalent04:22
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samu2ah this sucks04:23
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samu2ill just go ruin my file system now04:23
marcin_antapt is reporting malformed url when trying to add backports04:23
thoreauputicgerarcone: 386 kernels only show about ~900 MB04:23
marcin_antKyral, could you tell me how?04:23
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Kyraljust add the repo lines...04:23
scanwinderhow do u scan for channels with xawtv? ive done it before but forgotten how........i seem to remember using scantv......but i get  vbi: open failed [/dev/vbi]     open /dev/vbi: No such file or directory04:23
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scanwinderthe device is /dev/video0 but i cant seem to get scantv to look for that instead of /dev/vbi04:24
gerarconethoreauputic: how can i get this version of the kernel? sorry but i'm new to linux04:24
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thoreauputicgerarcone:  apt-cache search linux-image and choose one for your architecture04:24
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thoreauputicgerarcone: but don't use 2.6.11 - it has known issues04:24
KyralBut the Breezy 2.6.12 is stable :D04:25
thoreauputicgerarcone: are you using a pentium 4 ?04:25
KyralOkay, idea for the next installer04:25
gerarconethoreauputic: yes, I have a P4.04:25
Kyraldetect the arch and put the proper kernel in04:25
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gerarconethoreauputic: how can I choose from the list?04:25
Kyralif it sees an AMD, install a K704:25
thoreauputicgerarcone: then install the linux-image for i68604:25
Kyralif it sees a P4, install the 68604:26
Kyralif its confused, ask or install the 38604:26
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gerarconethoreauputic: can you give me the command lines for that?04:26
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marcin_antKyral, heh I had to use synaptic to add repo line04:26
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marcin_antKyral, updating now and I hope it will work04:27
marcin_antKyral, well error04:27
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thoreauputicgerarcone: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.10-5-68604:27
thoreauputicgerarcone: assuming you are running 5.04 (Hoary)04:28
marcin_antKyral, could you tell me how does your backports line look like in sources.list?04:28
bipis anybody involved with ltsp deployement here ?04:28
gerarconethoreauputic: yes I have Hoary, thank you very much!!! Let's see if it works...04:28
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Krnekihay04:28
Krnekineed help04:28
Kyraldeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted04:28
Kyraldeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted04:28
Kyralthose04:28
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thoreauputicgerarcone: it should :) Just reboot to see all your ram after installing it04:28
momobip, I have breezy and been trying to test ltsp without any success04:29
Kyralsorry for the C&P04:29
Krnekihow to set ipv6 on ubuntu ( i use xs26.net as provider)04:29
thoreauputicgerarcone: it should boot to the new kernel or give you that choice in the grub menu04:29
Hoxzer170 kB/s04:29
Hoxzer:( my download speed is looooow04:29
Hoxzerneed 30Mbps cable04:29
gerarconethoreauputic: ok done. now i shold reboot?04:29
f00f_bugBAH! i thought i was being clever by uninstalling muine to reinstall it, but now it won't reinstall! i think the dependencies are too new? anyway to refresh all my packages?04:29
KrnekiANY ipv6 expert here04:30
thoreauputicgerarcone: note that a small amount of ram is always reserved for the kernel stack04:30
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thoreauputicgerarcone: yes, reboot - a new kernel is about the only thing that needs rebooting on linux :)04:30
gerarconethoreauputic: ok04:30
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gerarconethoreauputic: see you later!04:30
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wobsterhi everybody. it's my first day on debian coming from gentoo. how can I install streamtuner? apt-get install streamtuner doesn't work out.04:31
VoXwhat would be causing this error? Sep 17 00:26:27 localhost kernel: [ 4444.957676]  ioctl32(armyops-bin:23314): Unknown cmd fd(97) cmd(80a04520){00} arg(ffff86d8) on /dev/input/event004:31
thoreauputic!tell wobster about repos04:31
flughis there a version of ubuntu (maybe 5.10?) that has postgresql-8.x?04:31
Krnekihm IPV6 HELP needed here04:31
Kyral!tell wobster about RootSudo04:31
wobsteryup. please !tell me :)04:31
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shrike__unable to do cd-rw blanking in gnomebaker or k3b any ideas?04:31
f00f_bugshrike__: man cdrecord04:32
wobsterKyral, it's not about sudo. it's about not finding teh packet04:32
thoreauputicwobster: look at your /msgs04:32
wobsterah. ok.04:32
wobsterdidnt notice04:32
thoreauputicwobster: ubotu sent you info04:32
shrike__f00f_bug, hmm lemme take a look at cdrecord..04:32
wobsterthoreauputic, thanks a lot04:32
KyralOkay....this is an unsettling msg....04:32
thoreauputicwobster: no worries :)04:33
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Krnekiwill i be on turn one time04:33
benz190rydahello04:33
wobsterhe. debian confuses me every now and then ;)04:33
thoreauputicwobster: ubuntu != debian04:33
Kyralin a couple KDEInit files, I updated the Freeglut package. It tells me that it isn't an ELF file 'cause the magic bit isn't right...04:33
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thoreauputicwobster: similar but different :)04:33
benz190rydaanyone here using ubuntu on a laptop04:34
Nermalaye04:34
thoreauputicwobster: whatever you do, don't use debian repos04:34
f00f_bugshrike__: cdrecord dev=/dev/xxxx blank=fast04:34
wobsterthoreauputic, I swear04:34
gerarconethoreauputic: the new kernel works great!!! thanks!!!04:34
thoreauputicwobster: :)04:34
thoreauputicgerarcone: :D04:34
flughis there a breezy installer available yet?04:34
bipmomo so you are tryin lstp with breezy w/out success04:34
flughor is it hoary->dist-upgrade only?04:35
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Nermalflugh, you can download breezy cd isos04:35
gerarconethoreauputic: now GRUB give me the choice of booting also from the old kernel. how can i delete it from the list?04:35
Nermalwhether they install properly or not is another question :)04:35
thoreauputicflugh: see /topic04:35
KyralThe installer is slightly tweaked04:35
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flughNermal, nifty. thanks04:35
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thoreauputicgerarcone: well, keep it - it's good to have a backup kernel04:36
flughthoreauputic, oh, i'm an idiot. thanks for helping me realize that =)04:36
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wobsterthoreauputic, I suppose in that wiki also has a guide to kernel-building? I have no floppy and the kernel freaks out from time to time. I have to disable that. unfortunately the fdd-driver  is not a module04:36
VoXwhat would be causing this error? Sep 17 00:26:27 localhost kernel: [ 4444.957676]  ioctl32(armyops-bin:23314): Unknown cmd fd(97) cmd(80a04520){00} arg(ffff86d8) on /dev/input/event004:36
thoreauputicflugh: heh :) Not really - hardly anyone reads the /topic it seems04:36
ebichetebenz190ryda: I'm using a laptop.04:36
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shrike__"write speed of 2 not suffecient for this writer" and alot of other stuff04:36
thoreauputicwobster: there's a kernal howto, yes - hang on a tic04:37
wobstersure04:37
flughthoreauputic, xchat does a bad job of showing the topic on /join. i like that x-chat gnome thing i used with foresight linux. going to get it installed directly04:37
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shrike__same error as in gnomebaker04:38
f00f_bugfor upgrading to breezy without a complete reinstall, is it best to just change the apt sources to breezy and dist-upgrade?04:38
thoreauputicwobster: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto04:38
flughjust running fedora at home now to do devel on my work database, so that postgresql versions match. but i NEED ubuntu04:38
marcin_antKyral, thanks it work04:38
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wobsterthoreauputic,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelByHandHowto. this is more gentoo-like :)04:39
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momobip:  yeh ive been able to get pxe to boot but it never loads the kernel04:39
thoreauputicwobster: well, it's best to do things "the Debian Way" in Ubuntu04:39
bipah ok ...04:39
gerarconethoreauputic: sorry to boring you, but how can i know if the drivers of my video card are installed?04:39
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antixwhat's the command for checking kernel version?04:39
gerarconethoreauputic: i have an ATI Mobility Radeon 970004:39
f00f_bugantix: uname -a04:39
wobsterthoreauputic, ok. Ill try. uh. one more thing: what's the security updates repository? .. just hotfixes?04:40
momoI used the howto found on the ubuntu wiki but its not very detailed04:40
bipmomo i have found some nice breezy ltsp how to momo04:40
antixf00f_bug, thanks!04:40
thoreauputic!ati04:40
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx04:40
thoreauputicgerarcone: ^^^^04:40
bipbut they all semm to be about tpure thin clients04:40
momoI dont think the ltsp-build-client ran successfully on my system04:40
bipinstead im interested in usin a fat diskless client setup04:40
thoreauputicwobster: as the name would imply - security fixes04:40
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shrike__no one else having problems blanking cdrw disks in hoary?04:41
bipcan you tell me a bit about your spcs momo ? i do run a fat client solution right now doesnt use ubuntu mor ltsp, it s based on skolelinux and lessdisks04:41
momobip so you want to boot from your nic04:41
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bipbut i m considering the possibility of using ubuntu instead04:42
bipwell i do boot from my nics momo04:42
bipbut not using ubuntu nor ltsp04:42
momoi was just doing some testing with a laptop running brezzy and ltsp with one workstation booting from the nic04:42
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matthews-04:43
bipok what are the specs of the server and the client momo ? i had my first succes using viortual machines04:43
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KrnekiNEED help to configure ipv6 on ubuntu04:43
Krnekiplease help04:43
bipif you want i can privmsg you the link i have found about ubuntu and ltsp momo04:44
biplinks04:44
bipi have found a few actually04:44
momoI would appreciate that.04:44
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bipok hold on ...04:45
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gerarconethoreauputic: sure my mobility 9700 is supported?04:46
KyralKrneki, I don;t think anyone active right now knows about IPv6 in Ubuntu04:46
sproingieugh, thought X in breezy was slow before ... had to fall back to the vesa driver now04:46
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Kyralhell, yours is the first ISP that I have heard of that offers IPv604:46
benz190rydacan i install kubuntu using apt? my cdrom is shot04:46
thoreauputicgerarcone: I have no idea, sorry - mine is  crappy onboard affair by sis04:47
Seveasyes you can04:47
Kyralsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:47
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samu2all right, one more problem eliminated04:47
samu2i ran fsck and just answered yes to everything04:47
samu2but i still have the problem that ubuntu cant reset my computer properly04:47
benz190rydathanks04:47
samu2not sure if its a laptop-problem or something04:47
shrike__ok I just tried this on two computers both hoary one laptop one deskop neither will let me blank a cdrw04:48
gerarconethoreauputic: In the link i read: "They support the X700, 9800, 9600, 9200, and 9000 Mobile chipsets."04:49
f00f_bugshrike__: maybe your rw is f**cked up?04:49
f00f_bugis it brand new?04:49
benz190rydatried apt-get install kubuntu-desktop i get E: couldnt find package.is it looking for a cd04:49
benz190ryda?04:49
thoreauputicgerarcone: someone else might know: I don't, sorry :(04:49
shrike__f00f_bug, worked in xp last week..but I guess thats possible04:50
shrike__f00f_bug, I can read it just fine and wrote it originally in ubuntu just cant blank04:50
ebichetesamu2: Probably a laptop problem, what model is yours ?04:50
flughbenz190ryda, you have the proper kubuntu lines in apt sources.list?04:50
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sproingieanyone with breezy having trouble with fglrx after latest update?04:51
flughbenz190ryda, there's a very helpful #kubuntu channel here too04:51
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thoreauputic!tell benz190ryda about sources04:51
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sproingiesomething about duplicate symbols.  X stupidly overwrites the log so i can't tell exactly04:51
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WTFchuckhowzit04:54
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benz190rydaok04:55
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stratusis there something like snapshot.debian.net but with an ubuntu archive ?04:55
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Juulwhere does one put feature suggestions? bugzilla?04:55
f00f_bugshrike__: try to blank it in xp again, to see if it's the disk or the os04:55
Juulthere need to be a better mouse/nipple_mouse/touchpad control panel thing04:56
Juuli can't even use my nipple mouse, it's like trying to arm wrestle a smurf04:56
shrike__f00f_bug, I was so proud of myself for not booting to XP..  brb04:56
f00f_bughehe04:56
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sproingiei think my machine boots faster than openoffice2 takes to start04:59
sproingiethe bouncing cursor goes away before it even manages to draw the splash screen04:59
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trytohello05:00
kairu0sproingie, lol05:00
Cr4Sh_OK guyz i dont know what to do?? I'm stak with this error evrytime I'm trying to install something new... how do i fix it05:00
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flughcan i get xchat to pause before joining channels on connect so i don't end up in the unregged channels?05:00
trytoany have an idea on how to install wine in ubuntu 5.1005:00
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apokryphossproingie: remove the bouncing cursor. It makes your computer appear faster (really)05:00
Cr4Sh_can i paste is not long!! 1 line only?05:00
thoreauputicsproingie: you might want to install ooqstart-gnome and allocate more memory to OOo05:00
apokryphosubotu: tell tryto about wine05:00
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tryto????05:01
apokryphos!wine05:01
apokryphostryto: did you not get an /msg from ubotu?05:01
osfameronon which note05:01
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apokryphostryto: hm, perhaps you need to register your nick.05:01
thoreauputicflugh: put your password in the server box instead of the nickserv box in the server dialogue05:01
osfameronhas anyone had any luck using winetools ?05:01
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osfameronor is there another good way to set the basics up?05:02
trytok thanks05:02
flughthoreauputic, thanks, will try it05:02
thoreauputicflugh: Works Here (tm)05:02
robzonyo05:02
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gabaughow can I get the list of files installed by a .deb from the cli?05:05
gabauglike synaptic will give you via the properties context menu item05:05
trytoanother question... how can i install nvidia gforce driver???05:05
apokryphosgabaug: dpkg -l05:05
thoreauputicgabaug:  dpkg -L packagename05:05
apokryphosgabaug: erm, dpkg -L sorry05:05
thoreauputicapokryphos: no, capital L05:05
gabaugthanks guys05:05
thoreauputic:)05:05
apokryphos8)05:05
fredforfaenone happy cutomer :P05:05
trytoapokryphos: how do i register my nick?05:06
sproingiehopefully breezy fixes the fglrx driver conflict soon.  i think i'm being punished for saying X was slow before05:06
apokryphostryto: /msg nickserv help register05:06
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WTFchuckok, i cn't figure out how to sve my live configurtion, now i tried to put it on  floppy but05:07
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WTFchuckmn, im tired05:07
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WTFchucki hve to get special floppy files?05:08
trytoapokryphos: any idea on how to install nvidia gforce driver???05:08
apokryphosYup05:08
apokryphos!nvidia05:08
ubotufrom memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia05:08
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apokryphostryto: so to register just /msg nickserv register <password>05:09
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allenHi everyone05:09
apokryphosaloha05:09
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kairu0hey05:09
allenI'm very new to linux and am using ubuntu05:09
allenMy name is allen05:09
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thoreauputicapokryphos: /j #ubuntu-hawaii  *grin*05:09
kwikstahHi, I'm trying to install x2vnc, which I downloaded off sourceforge, but when I try to compile it, I get some err msgs: In file included from args.c:25:05:09
kwikstah./x2vnc.h:28:22: error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory05:09
kwikstah./x2vnc.h:29:21: error: X11/Xmd.h: No such file or directory05:09
kwikstah, and then a bunch of syntax errors.  Any idea what I'm doing wrong?05:09
apokryphosgood to have you here =_05:09
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allenI hope you can help me with my problem?05:09
nibblesmxI have a problem. Ubuntu keeps telling me I need to upgrade my xserver-xorg packages. actually its around 152 packages I upgrade almost everyday and it keeps telling me to upgrade.05:10
apokryphosthoreauputic: :P05:10
benz190rydai know this sound stupid but what does the term uncomment mean05:10
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apokryphosallen: certainly no-one can if you don't state it ;-)05:10
[Wiebel] nibblesmx: breezy? :)05:10
thoreauputicbenz190ryda: remove the #05:10
Seveasnibblesmx, that's because the packages constanly change in a development version...05:10
benz190rydatrying to edit my apt source list05:10
thoreauputicbenz190ryda: usually :)05:10
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allenI can't figure out how to get my machine have sounds05:10
benz190rydaok05:10
benz190rydathats what i thought just wanted to be sure05:10
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thoreauputicbenz190ryda: lines starting # are comments05:10
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Echelon-His there a command to physically eject the cd?05:11
benz190rydathanks05:11
matthewssound does seem to be the biggest pain i have had in ubuntu05:11
Seveaseject05:11
nibblesmx[Wiebel] , yes, breezy. Seveas  have updated the xorg packages 5 times in 3 days05:11
thoreauputicbenz190ryda: i.e. ignored05:11
kwikstahnobody?05:11
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Seveasnibblesmx, sounds about right05:11
[Wiebel] nibblesmx: breezy is development05:11
matthewsgot sound working with xmms and totem etc though no lost system sound05:11
[Wiebel] so packeges keep getting updated and changed05:11
Seveasyou don't need to do that though, you can skip a few updates...05:11
trytoi'm also a newbie here... its my 1st time using linux05:11
matthewsfigure that one !!05:11
[Wiebel] and yes, the last few days xorg packages are updated pretty often05:11
trytoand i like ubuntu... its great05:11
allenI also like ubuntu05:12
apokryphosI tend to only update about once a week unless there's a reason to update something else05:12
WTFchuckryhmes with borg05:12
trytothe problem is i dont know the how to's05:12
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Seveastryto, wiki.ubuntu.com05:12
apokryphostryto: no worries. The Wiki is the best place to start.05:12
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allenMy first problem is not having sounds05:12
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matthewshas anyone used clam av in ubuntu05:12
trytocan someane till me what is this code means "sudo apt-get install xlibs-dev"05:12
trytowhere do i run them?05:12
kwikstahthat's a command05:13
Seveastryto, that uses the apt-get command to install the package xlibs-dev05:13
nibblesmxwell, thanks a lot, i thought it was a bug :D05:13
apokryphostryto: the Terminal, check in your menus.05:13
thoreauputictryto: erm - what are you compiling?05:13
Seveasyou run it in a terminal05:13
kwikstahi guess nobody knows how to answer my question. thanks anyway, though.05:13
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thoreauputictryto: normally you would only need that to compile things05:13
osfameronhmmm, the instructions at !wine are pretty good05:13
trytodoes it mean i need to download something form the net05:13
apokryphostryto: yes, basically.05:13
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thoreauputictryto: what are you doing?05:13
trytoio'm trying to install Wine in ubuntu 5.1005:13
osfameronbut always annoying not to be able to just apt-get it and have it all worky05:14
apokryphostryto: whenever you see apt-get install <something> it's pretty much the same as you selecting that package from Synaptic, Ubuntu's Package Manager.05:14
thoreauputic!tell tryto about wine05:14
Echelon-Heject is not working05:14
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apokryphostryto: try out synaptic; just select it from the menu. And check this also:05:15
apokryphos!synaptic05:15
ubotufrom memory, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto05:15
thoreauputicEchelon-H: try  eject /dev/cdrom05:15
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trytothanks for your help guys....05:15
thoreauputicEchelon-H: if that doesn't work, try audo eject /dev/cdrom05:15
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shekharhello does anyone know if skype works better in breezy than hoary?05:15
allenhow do I open a .bin file?05:15
thoreauputicsorry sudo eject05:15
thoreauputicEchelon-H: typo05:16
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Echelon-Hinvalid argument05:16
thoreauputicallen: you don't - you rub it normally05:16
Echelon-Hnvm05:16
Echelon-Hsudo worked05:16
Echelon-Hthanks05:16
thoreauputicEchelon-H: did you try sudo?05:16
allenHow? sorry very new to this05:16
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thoreauputicallen: is this a game installer or something?05:17
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carthikkwikstah, maybe a few soft links to the right locations of the files is what you need? (just trying to help)05:17
allenit is java runtime environment05:17
thoreauputicallen: what is this file for?05:17
thoreauputicah05:17
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kwikstahcarthik, kairu0 told me i need to install libx11-dev05:17
thoreauputic!tell allen about java05:17
allenI'm installing azureus05:17
kwikstahthat seems to have helped, thanks for trying, though :P05:17
allenIt needs java first05:17
dwerfhi there, i have a disk problem - my disk cannot be read anymore in windows, fortunately in linux it can - is it possible to restore the disk in linux to make it work in windows?05:17
thoreauputicallen: ubotu just sent you an URL about java05:17
allenyep thanks05:18
carthikkwikstah, though you could install x2vnc using apt-get and thus get a package known to work, instead of compiling05:18
fredforfaenwhy doesent people here use the unofficial ubuntu guide?05:18
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fredforfaenit has "everything"05:18
flughthoreauputic, thanks. sorry was afk a bit05:18
kwikstahi didn't see it in synaptic package manager, carthik05:18
thoreauputicfredforfaen: it breaks things sometimes05:18
fredforfaenaha05:18
fredforfaenlike what05:18
kairu0fredforfaen, does it have weapons of mass destruction?05:18
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WTFchuckbecause your brain is scrambled from reading it05:18
D1fredforfaen, I think people dislike it because it doesn't SAY what its doing05:18
thoreauputicfredforfaen: various things - the sources are not good, the audio advice is dodgy...05:19
fredforfaenlol05:19
D1its just a list of a bunch of commands05:19
dwerfhi there, i have a disk problem - my disk cannot be read anymore in windows, fortunately in linux it can - is it possible to restore the disk in linux to make it work in windows?05:19
D1so you don't learn anything05:19
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fredforfaenwow , good info gyes05:19
osfameronD1: you shouldn't *have* to learn anything05:19
thoreauputicD1: it's also out of date now05:19
osfameronit's Linux for human beings, no?05:19
allenwhat's the difference between ppc and amd64?05:19
D1human beings NEED knowledge.05:19
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fredforfaenbut not this , it has helped me in almost every way , being a newbie that is05:19
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fredforfaennot/note05:19
thoreauputicallen: ppc is mostly apple macs05:19
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osfameronD1: yes, but I'd much rather have Wine, power management, touchpad and the 10 or so other problems I've got *just work*05:20
allengotcha05:20
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zone17Hi, I remember one time using some tool og some web service to check a domain on an apache server and get information back about how many virtal hosts was running on the same as the domain, does anyone here know what tool/service can do that?05:20
osfameronthough I'm capable of eventually fixing them, I don't really want to :-)05:20
carthikkwikstah, it is in the universe repository which has to be enabled05:20
D1thats what windows is for. ;] 05:20
carthikkwikstah, personally i never had to compile anything so far05:20
D1I like somewhat of a challenge.05:20
WTFchuckbut its like a new language, the manual doesn't make sense at first05:20
D1linux keeps me busy and entertained.05:20
carthikkwikstah, compiling sort of annuls the point of using a debian based system :)05:20
D1if I wanted everything to just work and run I'd go back to windows since I didn't have any problems with it.05:21
WTFchucklike right now i can't even figure out how to save my live configuration05:21
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D1but linux is FUN FUN FUN05:21
osfameronD1: yeah, actually, I've considered that :-(05:21
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kwikstahcarthik: thanks for the info. i didn't know that about debian based systems05:21
benz190rydaok kubuntu is on the way thanks for the help thor05:21
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osfameronthough some things like multiple workspaces, certain shiny things about gnome, gnome terminal, and synaptic (yum!) really make the difference05:21
WTFchuckit took me weeks just to get live to work05:22
thoreauputicbenz190ryda: no worries - BTW you know you can tab-complete nicks, right?05:22
benz190rydai just deleted the contents of source list then apt-setup05:22
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carthikkwikstah, no probs :) there is also a multiverse repo with even more packages, and other repositories with extra packages as well.... all providing packages with the dependencies sort out. the wiki has a page on repositories -- i'll stop now ;)05:22
benz190rydano05:22
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benz190rydai stall have a long way to go with linux05:22
thoreauputicbenz190ryda: thore <hit tab>05:22
WTFchuckwhats a bin........whats an image......it goes on and on05:22
benz190rydai never chat05:22
thoreauputicbenz190ryda: try it05:22
benz190rydabeen using mandrake for a couple of years05:23
pluffsywhat is that cli app that returns the key code for the key your pressing down?05:23
carthikpluffsy, xev05:23
thoreauputicpluffsy: xev05:23
allenHow can I make the sounds work in my ubuntu?05:23
pluffsythanks both05:23
benz190rydathoreauputic,05:23
benz190rydacool05:23
carthikallen, if no sounds are heard file a bug report05:23
benz190rydalol05:23
thoreauputicbenz190ryda: :D05:23
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dwerfis it possible to sync one ubuntu-system with another totally, so they are identical?05:24
turkey_joehow can i install a .deb file???05:24
thoreauputicallen: try typing alsamixer in a terminal and see if any channels are muted - m to toggle mute/unmute05:24
benz190rydai have kubuntu loades on my desktop and i just loaded on a compaq armada e50005:24
thoreauputicturkey_joe: what are you installing?05:24
benz190rydahad to put my hdd in another laptop with a working cdrom to get the os loaded05:25
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carthikturkey_joe, it should be from a repository preferably an ubuntu repo - else you will have probs updating it later05:25
araknooohey, I've just upgraded my duron 1ghz, 386mb, radeon 7500 system from hoary to breezy-preview and gnome feels slower than with hoary, I've checked the Xorg config and everything seems fine, does anyone know if it may be related to Gtk 2.8 being cairo based?05:25
kwikstahhey, in xchat 2.4.4 how do i get the program to flash when someone types my nick05:25
allengot it. I am using a motherboard with a built in sound card05:25
dwerfis it possible to sync one ubuntu-system with another totally, so they are identical?05:25
turkey_joeits a file with the .deb file extension05:25
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thoreauputicturkey_joe: but what is it?05:26
carthikkwikstah, play around with prefs - it will beep audibly, and when someone mentions you name, the line will be highlighted-sort of05:26
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benz190rydahas anyone ever gotten a pocket pc pda to work in linux?05:26
allenwill it help if i put in a separate sound card?05:26
thoreauputicturkey_joe: chances are you are doing it the hard way05:26
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carthikallen, might - but search for your soundcard and ubuntu on google05:26
kwikstahyeah, i notice that line gets highlighted sort-of05:26
carthikallen, you'll be able to find out why it does not work if needed05:26
allenok05:26
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kwikstahi don't know if i want it to beep per se, just have the window flash05:27
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inthenowanyont know how to change alt right click to nothing?05:27
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thoreauputicturkey_joe: just installing random .debs is a good way to have endless problems...05:27
inthenowinterferes with almighty blender3d05:27
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carthikkwikstah, dont think it can flash05:28
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kwikstahoh well, i can live with beeping05:28
turkey_joewhould it be better to have the source code then?05:28
Lord_nikonhullo all05:28
kwikstahi think :)05:28
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xenomeliteforcehi all! Does anyone know how to change the language in the Anjuta IDE? I currently have German, but English would be better05:28
XsupremeXIm new to Ubuntu and i need some help guys05:29
thoreauputicturkey_joe: no - it's better to use the package manager05:29
XsupremeXi am using the live CD05:29
Lord_nikonand05:29
XsupremeXi was wondering how you get the command prompt up05:29
XsupremeXfor one05:29
thoreauputicturkey_joe: you know about synaptic package manager?05:29
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XsupremeXand also05:29
turkey_joeYes05:29
WTFchuck_test05:29
WTFchuck_hello?05:29
XsupremeXhow i find my files05:29
Seveas!test05:29
ubotuPassed.05:29
thoreauputicturkey_joe: so what are you trying to install?05:29
carthikdwerf, data yes - _everything_ -- bad idea :)05:30
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Lord_nikonXsupremeX:aplications,system tools,terminal05:30
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linuxsbartleynickrud, thoreauputic,  I spoke with pitti on -devel.  "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" is the correct answer.  i.e. nickrud you were correct.:)  pitti also said that there really is no actual security risk with this solution, it was just disabled as part of the "proactive security" steps they have been taking.05:30
XsupremeXthnx05:30
carthikXsupremeX, and "find"05:30
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thoreauputiclinuxsbartley: thanks05:30
occyanyone know who to contact regarding firmware that gets shipped with Breezy?05:30
carthikXsupremeX, there is also "Search for files" in the places menu05:30
linuxsbartleynp.  thx to all for the help.05:31
XsupremeXya i was in system files05:31
kwikstahhey, i'm trying to add universe/multiverse right now. i'm looking at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto, and I follow the steps to add universe, but I don't see any multiverse repositories. do i need to do that somewhere else?05:31
XsupremeXbut i couldnt find any of my files05:31
occylinuxsbartley,   :)05:31
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nickrud linuxsbartley thanks, I was gonna look into it later, you've save me some time :)05:31
XsupremeXfor some reason05:31
cyphasehow do you share a printer using ipp?05:31
linuxsbartley:)05:31
thoreauputicturkey_joe: hello? what's your answer?05:31
linuxsbartleyoccy, no offense taken.05:31
linuxsbartley:)05:31
XsupremeXcarthik05:31
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occylinuxsbartley, ok, just wanted to make sure my eyes weren't failing me.05:31
XsupremeXdo you know why i cant find any of my files?05:31
XsupremeXi was in system files05:31
carthikcyphase, you set up cups to listen on the proper port and then you print to the ipp:..../printers/printer-name/ url05:31
Lord_nikonXsupremeX:that is cos u don't have access to windows files from linux05:31
XsupremeXand there isnt like my programs or anything05:31
linuxsbartleynope.  just needed to get to the bottom and get the "right" answer out.05:32
XsupremeXo05:32
linuxsbartleythx again.05:32
Smirkerhow do i mount a cdrom drive in terminal, or, how do i know what is the name of the device of my cd rom drives?05:32
XsupremeXhmm05:32
XsupremeXso i have to reinstall everything on ubuntu?05:32
XsupremeXlol05:32
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carthikSmirker, "mount" will let you know what is already mounted05:32
benz190rydathoreauputic, are u here05:32
carthikSmirker, putting in a new cd will auto mount it for you05:32
Lord_nikonu should have downloaded the install disk XsupremeX05:32
thoreauputicbenz190ryda: yes05:32
Smirkermaybe ubuntu doesnt like my cd drives ;o05:32
Smirkeroh well05:32
XsupremeXwell i already have windows installed... and im the only one who is interested in linux05:32
carthikSmirker, whats the matter?05:33
XsupremeXand i couldnt install it cuz they would be pissed05:33
carthikSmirker, try a different cd perhaps05:33
Smirkercant use cdrom in ubuntu05:33
benz190rydawhy doesnt init 3 work in ubuntu05:33
XsupremeXso i used the live cd05:33
Smirkerhaha oh well :P05:33
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Smirkerdoesnt matter, thc05:33
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Lord_nikonXsupremeX,where on earth do u live05:33
thoreauputicbenz190ryda: it does, but it doesn't kill X :)05:33
XsupremeXMichigan05:33
Lord_nikonbloody americans05:33
XsupremeXlol05:33
carthikwrong answer - Michigan is not on earth!05:33
Lord_nikonLOL05:34
occycarthik, haha05:34
benz190rydahow do i kill x05:34
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carthikbenz190ryda, kill, or restart?05:34
occybenz190ryda, ctrl+alt+backspace05:34
=== XsupremeX well is there a way
thoreauputicbenz190ryda: if you need to totally kill X, do sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop05:34
=== XsupremeX to access windows files?
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carthikbenz190ryda, ctrl-alt-backsp will restart05:34
bipthey used to do mean rock back in the sixties in michigan ...05:34
deFrysktry init 205:34
kwikstahcan one not add multiverse from synaptic package mgr?05:34
bipdo they produce geeks now ?05:34
allenwhat is synaptic? where can I find it?05:34
carthikkwikstah, can - just add the word in05:34
deFryskoki05:34
occyany Ubuntu Developers here?05:34
devoI'm setting up a new system with both a / and a /home directory.  How large of a /home directory should I set up for my Ubuntu system?  Is there some kind of standard number?05:34
thoreauputicdeFrysk: init 2 will do nothing05:34
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carthikallen, gksudo synaptic & will start synaptic from a terminal05:34
=== XsupremeX is there a way to access windows files anyone???
Lord_nikononly way is to burn ur windows files on a disk and run it with linux05:35
Belutzoccy: go to #ubuntu-devel maybe?05:35
occyBelutz, yeah, they are all asleep05:35
carthikdevo, /home is where all the user files will be so make it as big as possible05:35
XsupremeXo wow05:35
bipdevo depends how big is your hd05:35
Belutzic05:35
XsupremeXwell that isnt good05:35
XsupremeXlol05:35
allenyou mean type gksudo synaptic in the shell?05:35
XsupremeXso there is no way unless i reinstall or burn them?05:35
bipand what sort of files you love to download devo05:35
Belutz!tell XsupremeX about windowsdrives05:35
XsupremeXyes plz05:35
XsupremeXlol05:35
Lord_nikonand take billy gates of ur system mate05:35
thoreauputicallen:  it's in the menu as Package MAnager as well05:36
Lord_nikonof course05:36
allenok05:36
devobip, i forgot about the downloading of files part.  if i just stick with configuration files and such it might not take much.05:36
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Belutzcarthik: good luck mate!05:36
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benz190rydaok thanks05:36
kwikstahthanks carthik05:37
devomaybe I should be looking at the / directory size more than the /home size as the limiting factor.05:37
carthikdevo, but if you are using the computer, then you have to put your files somewhere, right?05:37
benz190rydagoing to install kubuntu now see ya later05:37
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Lord_nikonmust be off to buy some fags,later lads05:37
Belutzdevo: what's the size of your hdd?05:37
carthikdevo, right, i use /boot = 250MB, / = 8 gigs and /home = (200G - the rest)05:37
XsupremeXhmmm05:37
XsupremeXcan you tell me about windowsdrives belutz?05:38
devoyes, carthik, but some of that will depend on how I'm going to use the computer.  this is like a 4 meg drive on an old Thinkpad 600.05:38
carthik8 gigs is prolly too much, but i figure i will not want to run out of space for packages and such05:38
carthikdevo 4 MEG?05:38
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devogig.  sorry05:38
BelutzXsupremeX: that winmac_fstab script will automatically mount all your windows partition at startup05:38
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XsupremeXand how do i do that belutz?05:38
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qatsiwhen is the full release of version 5.1 Breeze Badger ?05:39
carthikdevo lol :) okay, you can keep deleting the package .deb files from apt... apt-get clean i think will do it05:39
Lethal-Rocks13th October05:39
Pyfhey, i think ive managed to share a  folder, how would i go about accessing it on a windows machine....??05:39
BelutzXsupremeX: download the scripts and do "sudo ./winmac_fstab" in the shell05:39
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dazjorzheya05:39
qatsiLethal-Rocks: thanx :)05:39
carthikqatsi, 5.10 (the 10 is for october)05:39
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dazjorzfast question... how to mount an iso again? I forget all the time05:39
Lethal-RocksPyf, same way you would on another windows PC05:39
linuxsbartleyCan anyone tell me if there is a tool or instructions on creating a liveCD from a built ubuntu system?05:39
XsupremeXumm where can i dl the scripts?05:39
dazjorzI still remember mount -o loop05:39
carthikdazjorz, look it up at ubuntuguide.org05:39
XsupremeXcan you do a priv chat with me belutz?05:39
BelutzXsupremeX: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab05:39
XsupremeXso we can talk easier05:40
kwikstahhey, what's the difference between a terminal window, and the window i get when i type xterm05:40
BelutzXsupremeX: of course05:40
XsupremeXthnx05:40
dazjorzcarthik: thanks a lot -_-"05:40
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devocarthik, i'd like to get my old IBM "butterfly" system running on Linux but it has a tiny drive.  540 megs as I recall.05:40
PyfLethal-Rocks: this ubuntu machine has machine name sigmasi, when on a windows machine i \\sigmasi it says the network path was not found05:40
thoreauputickwikstah: none05:40
carthikkwikstah, like firefox vs. opera05:40
Lethal-RocksWhat about hostname though ;)05:40
kwikstahok05:40
carthikdazjorz, anytime05:40
PyfLethal-Rocks: thats what i mean sigmasi is the hostname05:40
Lethal-Rockstry IP05:41
Pyfat least i think it is!05:41
thoreauputickwikstah: both are terminal emulators05:41
dazjorzcarthik: probably, the command I asked for was about as long as that answer. You could've just answered, it would've spared me out much time.05:41
devoThanks for the help, carthik and bip.05:41
kwikstahbut then why doesn't it look like my terminal, i.e. new window is smaller, font is slightly different, etc05:41
bipwell did i help ?05:41
kwikstahthoreauputic: so you're saying they are different emulators05:41
carthikdazjorz, yeah, but i like teaching fishing as opposed to feeding fish ;)05:41
bipi didn t realize i did ;-)05:41
PyfLethal-Rocks: do u mean \\192.168.1.101 that gives save network path not found05:41
matthewswhere is the best place to move a downloaded .bin file before i install it as im trying to install realplayer for linux though it wants to install in my home directory05:41
dazjorzcarthik: you just lost me on that answer... huh ?05:41
devobip, gave me the right thinking on it.  sometimes I just need some feedback to figure out what the plan is.05:41
thoreauputickwikstah: yes, just different apps - like different browsers etc05:41
Lethal-Rockspyf, you sure you hav samba05:41
kwikstahthanks05:42
bipah ok05:42
thoreauputickwikstah: some prefer one over another05:42
dazjorzcarthik: "iso" wasn't found on that page.05:42
bipglad i was of some help05:42
=== XsupremeX belutz ya there?
carthikdazjorz, "feed a man, and you keep him happy for a day, teach a man to fish and you keep him happy forever" -- that sort of thing05:42
PyfLethal-Rocks: i can acceess the windows machine, and i can set it up so it looks like its being shared!05:42
kwikstahthoreauputic: what are the reasons for that05:42
thoreauputickwikstah: for instnce I like aterm and urxvt05:42
kwikstahthoreauputic: i don't even know what those are05:42
BelutzXsupremeX: yes i'm here05:42
dazjorzcarthik: aaaaaaaaa...allright.05:42
XsupremeXgo to priv again05:43
dazjorzcarthik: ;)05:43
thoreauputickwikstah: some are lighter on resources, some look different etc05:43
carthikdazjorz, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountisofileswithoutburning05:43
inthenowwhich window manager is best in breezy? how do i unassign alt mouse commands. its interfering with blender05:43
=== XsupremeX go to priv again pl
=== XsupremeX plz
thoreauputickwikstah: they are just other terminal emulators, like xterm or gnome-terminal05:43
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kwikstahthoreauputic: i figured as much05:43
Lethal-Rocksinthenow, Window Managers arre a matter of preferance05:43
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carthikkwikstah, some of them are transparent, some allow tabs, some have more preferences to play with etc05:44
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Lethal-RocksAnyone know how I can get IPv6 working in BitTornado?05:44
thoreauputickwikstah: most things in *nix are like that - lots of choices :)05:44
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inthenowin gnome, how do i unassign alt mouse commands except for the program i using in it. I think gnome is keyboard shortcut over configured05:44
Lord_nikonback with fags05:44
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BelutzXsupremeX: u there?05:45
holycowoh lordy05:45
XsupremeXya05:45
neighborleeI took the config file from current default kernel ubuntu installs with ( was in /boot) and tried to do 'make' but im getting a error and Idont see how thats possible ( with the 2.6.10 source I downloaded) ie: In file included from drivers/media/dvb/frontends/dib3000mb.c:34:05:45
neighborleedrivers/media/dvb/frontends/dib3000mb_priv.h:354:2: invalid preprocessing directive #defind ????05:45
XsupremeXdude05:45
XsupremeXother channel05:45
=== XsupremeX other channel
holycowcopy paste from oo.o2 to other programs is working really quite great05:45
Belutzic05:45
linuxsbartleyWe want to install Ubuntu Server, add our necessary apps and packages and then roll that up into a live CD.  Can anyone point to help on this?05:45
Lethal-Rocksinthenow, System, Preferences, windows05:45
Belutz:)05:45
holycowi managed to copy paste a graphic from oo.o2 to gimp even05:45
holycowweeeeird05:45
Lord_nikonindeed05:45
PyfAn error occurred while trying to share folder '/home/sam/Desktop/Music'. Make sure that the Perl script 'fileshareset' is set suid root. actually it says that, how do i do that?05:46
XsupremeXBelutz?05:46
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BelutzXsupremeX: yes, i'm here, why don't you pm me?05:46
inthenowLethal-Rocks: finally...thanks so much05:46
BelutzXsupremeX: or let's just talk here05:46
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Lord_nikonanyone know if the network bug in kubuntu is fixed on breezy05:46
XsupremeXhey umm so do i just copy that script and put it in system files?05:47
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BelutzXsupremeX: yes05:47
XsupremeXk05:47
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XsupremeXin a text doc>05:47
XsupremeX??05:47
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BelutzXsupremeX: copy it, run it, and you may delete it after that05:47
XsupremeXk05:47
XsupremeXumm also05:48
BelutzXsupremeX: yup05:48
XsupremeXdo i copy the whole thing05:48
XsupremeXor05:48
XsupremeXjust05:48
carthiklinuxsbartley, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//LiveCDCustomizationHowTo05:48
XsupremeXthe part at05:48
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XsupremeX# Root Check05:48
BelutzXsupremeX: the whole thing05:48
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XsupremeXok05:48
eukreignanyone here have Ubuntu working on the new Dell 5100C ? i'm having trouble with the xserver05:48
linuxsbartleycarthik, this is for customizing the existing ubuntu livecd we want to create a new livecd from a server install.05:48
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carthiklinuxsbartley, take some off, put some in and there you are....05:49
carthiklinuxsbartley, a search should turn up more of what you want, i have read it at the forums before.05:49
windexhm. im having issues getting vesafb to work. whenever i specify a mode i get just a blank screen until X starts.05:49
linuxsbartleycarthik, hmmm.  did not seem to work very well when we did it that way.05:49
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=== XsupremeX belutz
XsupremeXfor some reason it cant save05:50
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BelutzXsupremeX: you could save it in your home directory05:50
XsupremeXok05:50
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Lord_nikonindeed05:50
kwikstahanother question: how come when i tried to use apt-get to install eclipse-jdt, i got an error about some file being locked (sorry i don't have the err msg handy anymore), but when i tried doing it from synaptic pkgmgr, it installed without complaint05:51
linuxsbartleycarthik, was hoping to find documentation on how the original live cd gets created so we could recreate that from a built system.05:51
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XsupremeXnow how do i run it?05:51
reiki_workkwikstah: you can't apt-get while synaptic is open (and vise versa05:51
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BelutzXsupremeX: open a terminat and type this "sudo ./winmac_fstab" (without the quote)05:51
kwikstahmore important question: when i run eclipse, i get an err. when i look in the logs, i see this at the top: !SESSION 2005-09-16 08:47:45.26 ------------------------------------------------05:51
kwikstaheclipse.buildId=05:51
kwikstahjava.fullversion=GNU libgcj 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.1-4ubuntu6)05:51
kwikstahBootLoader constants: OS=linux, ARCH=x86, WS=gtk, NL=en_US05:51
kwikstahCommand-line arguments:  -os linux -ws gtk -arch x8605:51
carthiklinuxsbartley, i dont know any better...05:51
kwikstah!ENTRY org.eclipse.update.configurator 2005-09-16 08:47:47.62705:51
ubotuWish i knew, kwikstah05:51
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kwikstah!MESSAGE /usr/local/lib/eclipse/plugins is not a valid plugins directory.05:51
ubotuthat's too long, kwikstah05:51
kwikstah!ENTRY org.eclipse.osgi 2005-09-16 08:47:54.81805:51
ubotuI don't know, kwikstah05:51
linuxsbartleycarthik, k. thx.05:51
kwikstah!MESSAGE An error occurred while automatically activating bundle org.eclipse.core.resources (22).05:51
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, kwikstah05:51
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Belutzdont paste here05:52
XsupremeXEEEK I CANT READ05:52
XsupremeXlol05:52
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Seveaskwikstah, f* iff05:52
Quinthiusdoes xchat not allow connects to multiple servers now? or where can i set that?05:52
carthikkwikstah, dont paste stuff here, please05:52
Seveasoff even05:52
BelutzXsupremeX: open a terminal and type this "sudo ./winmac_fstab" (without the quote)05:52
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Lord_nikonah,vlc05:52
XsupremeXumm05:52
XsupremeXsays command not found05:52
deFryskSeveas, why not an autokick for people who paste more then 4 lines ?05:53
BelutzXsupremeX: where do you save the winmac_fstab ?05:53
XsupremeXi saved it in home05:53
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thoreauputicdeFrysk: not very noob friendly :)05:53
BelutzXsupremeX: try this then "sudo sh ./winmac_fstab"05:53
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XsupremeXk05:54
deFryskthoreauputic, true true :D05:54
dazjorzhow to convert .BIN files to .ISO files ?05:54
BelutzXsupremeX: and make sure you are on your home directory05:54
XsupremeXsays no such directory or file05:54
dazjorzI've got a .CUE, if that matters05:54
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BelutzXsupremeX: did you save the file as winmac_fstab or other name?05:55
setite-SFDso what do you guys think of gentoo05:55
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thoreauputicdazjorz:  bchunk05:55
XsupremeXo other name05:55
Lord_nikongood good05:55
XsupremeXlol05:55
XsupremeXi saved it as windowsferf05:55
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BelutzXsupremeX: :)05:55
mouseNeed: Howto make your Ubuntu computer to a perfect FTP server, someone that can help? /pm05:55
XsupremeXso just replace as that?05:55
deFrysksetite-SFD, nothing , this is not a gentoo channel05:55
BelutzXsupremeX: yup05:55
XsupremeXk05:55
XsupremeXthnx05:55
XsupremeXima try it now05:55
setite-SFDdeFrysk - im just wondering what peoples opinions are... ive seen other os's discussed briefyly here many many times05:55
Skajacan some one help me with my forum post05:56
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D1mouse, check out vsftpd05:56
Skajahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6620205:56
Belutzsetite-SFD: never try it before, so i can't comment05:56
XsupremeXdo i want to make the disks05:56
XsupremeXwritable05:56
D1its pretty easy to setup and has lots of options05:56
XsupremeXby all users?05:56
deFrysksetite-SFD, /j #ubuntu-offtopic05:56
thoreauputicsetite-SFD: probably more appropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic05:56
BelutzXsupremeX: yes05:56
XsupremeXk05:56
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XsupremeXk it says theyre mounted now05:56
XsupremeXso now how do i find them?05:56
BelutzXsupremeX: hmm I forgot the command05:57
matthewshi -  is there a "preferred" place to download .bin files before executing, im a linux n00b here and ive downloaded realplayer and am not sure whether to execute it in my home directory ??05:57
XsupremeXshit... lol05:57
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Belutzguys, what's the command for reloading the fstab?05:57
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BelutzXsupremeX: i'm a n00b too actually :D05:57
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deFryskmatthews, try the wiki for realplayer05:57
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XsupremeXlol05:57
thoreauputicBelutz: mount -a05:57
XsupremeXsame here05:57
XsupremeXfor linux05:57
uihow do i delete a directory?05:57
deFrysk!tell matthews about realplayer05:58
XsupremeXi wanted to start using it though05:58
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Answerui: man rmdir05:58
XsupremeXooo05:58
XsupremeXnvm05:58
uiok05:58
XsupremeXi found out05:58
XsupremeXhow05:58
BelutzXsupremeX: there... type "sudo mount -a"05:58
XsupremeXi just used05:58
uithanks answer05:58
XsupremeXfile browser05:58
XsupremeXthat works 205:58
BelutzXsupremeX: great :) you could check it in /media/xxx05:58
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XsupremeX:D thnx for the help Belutz05:58
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allenwohoo!! got my sounds working! I muted "IEC958 Capture Monitor" in alsamixer05:59
CarlFKwhere is the right place to call a script on boot?05:59
BelutzXsupremeX: no worries mate :) welcome to the community :)05:59
matthewsdeFrysk - thanks for the tip - i'll try that :o)05:59
AnswerQuestion: I need to grep a file for one line that begins with Fri and then the next line begins with Battery.  "grep -e ^Fri -e Battery"   is close, but I only want the lines that are consecutive05:59
XsupremeX^^05:59
thoreauputicallen: :)05:59
LethAway`awayDoes anyone know how to get BitTornado to work with IPv6?05:59
BelutzCarlFK: /etc/init.d perhaps ?05:59
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SeveasCarlFK, /etc/rcS.d/05:59
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BelutzCarlFK: go with what Seveas just said :)05:59
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Lord_nikonlater all,off to the football06:00
LethAway`awayAnyone?06:00
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allenCan Yahoo Messenger be played in Linux using Wine?06:00
Seveasno06:00
dlHi, can anybody help me with an ubuntu installation question regarding disk partioning?06:00
Seveas!ask06:00
Belutzallen: i never get it to work06:00
Skajawhere did s30setserial file go to06:00
Seveas!tell dl about ask06:00
dlWell, I get to the partition disk step, and I'm not sure what to do....06:01
dlI want to have dual boot...06:01
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dlSo I go to the manually edit partition table option...06:01
Seveasdl, windows already installed?06:01
allen:(06:01
scanwinderwhen i run "scantv" i get the following error: "vbi: open failed [/dev/vbi] "        i cant seem to get it to use /dev/video0 which the device is...............anyone know how2 fix this?06:01
dlSeveas, Yes, lots of stuff that I need to keep.06:01
deFryskallen, use gaim06:01
Seveasok, already a few empty partitions/some empty space for linux?06:01
dlAnyway, I select the partition labelled #1 primary06:01
scanwinderi tried symlinking /dev/video0 to /dev/vbi06:01
Belutzallen: i fall in love with gaim :D06:01
thoreauputicallen: gaim can do yahoo I think06:01
thespiritoftalanyone who uses gmailfs here? I need help06:01
dlSeveas lots of empty space06:01
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Seveasscanwinder, ln -s /dev/video0 /dev/vbi06:02
Skajacan some one help m with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6620206:02
XsupremeXweeee06:02
swamploverHelp for a poor struggling newbie, please!  I changed screen resolution in x.org from 832x624 to 102424x 768 (running on standard 17" monitor), installed a lot of cool new stuff, (don't think there's any connection here, though), now can't setup nvidia-glx without reversing this. Any workarounds, please...?06:02
XsupremeXthis is sweet06:02
XsupremeXlol06:02
Seveasdl, i meant unpartitioned space :)06:02
allenWhat does this mean? "There is no element present to handle the stream's mime type audio/mpeg."06:02
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dlSeveas No, nothing unpartitioned.06:02
deFrysk!tell allen about resticted formats06:02
dlSeveas I wanted to use part of the ntfs partition.  Is that possible?06:02
BelutzXsupremeX: what is it? :D06:02
scanwinderseveas: ive tried that already06:02
XsupremeXi found all my files06:02
XsupremeXcept my desktop files06:03
Seveasdl, then find the 'make room for ubuntu' or 'resize ntfs partition' option06:03
XsupremeXbut ill find those 206:03
XsupremeXso no worrys06:03
XsupremeX:D06:03
Seveasdon't know its exact name06:03
BelutzXsupremeX: great :)06:03
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Seveasbut you cannot use part of the ntfs partition, you need to shrink it and create new partitions06:03
deFryskallen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:03
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allenthanks06:03
dlSeveas I can't seem to find out how to shrink the partition.  I guess I don't know which option.  I'll look through some more and see if I can find anything.06:03
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kandinskiI am installing ubuntu on an oldish laptop (300 Mhz Celeron with 64 M ram)06:04
deFryskkandinski, run it with xfce406:04
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deFryskas wm06:04
kandinskiany advice on performance and disk footprint? (it also has 4Gb, of which about half will have to be reserved for dualbooting win 98 and documents)06:04
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kandinskideFrysk: thanks. but it is for my "no I don't know computers" friend06:05
dlSeveas if I move the cursor to the line that shows my ntfs partition and press enter, I get a screen that shows the partition attributes, including size.  When I click on the Size though, it doesn't seem to give me an option to change it.06:05
deFryskkandinski, ubuntu needs 2 gigs minimum06:05
kandinskihe is only letting me do this because I told him it was the last time I would emergency-fix his computer if he kept it on win98 only06:05
AnswerQuestion: I need to grep a file for one line that begins with Fri and then the next line begins with Battery.  "grep -e ^Fri -e Battery"   is close, but I only want the lines that are consecutive06:05
dlSeveas, the screen says "Before the resize operation takes place ...", but there is no way to change it that I see.06:05
SeveasdeFrysk, standard install takes 1.2GB06:06
XsupremeXFound desktop icons and old files06:06
thoreauputickandinski: 64 MB is not enough for gnome06:06
XsupremeX:D06:06
kandinskican't you have a lighter, smaller ubuntu otherwise than by removing stuff post-install?06:06
thoreauputickandinski: sure06:06
kandinskiok, I will run it with xfce4, this will actually be good for me06:06
deFryskseveas forgot about swap06:06
kandinskithanks thoreauputic06:06
kandinskigreat nick too!06:06
thoreauputickandinski: you have to do a server install, then add stuff06:06
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thoreauputickandinski: it requires that you be comfortable with apt-get06:07
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Myrttikwikstah wants to get the ban off06:07
kandinskiI am confortable with apt-get all right06:07
Myrttihe'll behave good this time06:07
kandinskibut this laptop only has a modem06:07
swamploverHelp for a poor struggling newbie, please! Running ubuntu hoary on a standard 17" monitor, changed resolution in xorg.conf from 832x624 to 1024x768, now can't set up nvidia-glx without undoing this!  Any workarounds, please...?06:07
enogeneral question: when does Breezy get released?06:08
deFryskkandinski, you'll do fine then make sure to keep it light (no OO.o)06:08
Quinthiuseno: mid octoboer06:08
Myrtti13th Oct06:08
kandinskiI should go out and get him a pcmcia card06:08
enothanks!06:08
LethAway`awayswamplover, undo it, and redo it afterwards06:08
thoreauputickandinski: then do a server install, then sudo apt-get x-window-system-core gdm xterm xfce406:08
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kandinskideFrysk: I am afraid then he will have to do without: OO.o is his toolchain06:08
thoreauputickandinski: then add stuff ad-lib06:08
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kandinskithoreauputic: check06:08
thoreauputickandinski: like sylpheed for mail, dillo  browser06:09
deFryskkandinski, absolutelu , try abiword06:09
thoreauputicboth light06:09
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thoreauputicyes abiword06:09
BelutzXsupremeX: yes?06:09
deFryskabsolutely*06:09
XsupremeXdo you know why my computer is moving so slow?06:09
XsupremeXsince using ubuntu06:09
digitizeXsupremeX: gnome? :>06:09
carthikHrdwrBoB, can you please unban kwikstah - sorry if this request is inappropriate or youre busy or something :)06:09
thoreauputickandinski: firefox will run, but it satrats slowly on a 64MB box06:09
thoreauputic*starts06:09
BelutzXsupremeX: hmmm don't know about that, my computer running faster than my XP :p06:09
dlCan anybody tell me how to get to the "Resize partition" option when installing Ubuntu?06:10
XsupremeXo lol06:10
digitizeXsupremeX: try out xfce06:10
kandinskidillo I will try, it is the only one I don't know about06:10
digitizeit's a nice light desktop environment06:10
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XsupremeXumm also06:10
XsupremeXi was wondering06:10
deFryskkandinski, as an ugly alternative you could use the opera browser (static version)06:10
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XsupremeXif i restart mycomputer06:10
Belutzyes xfce is nice06:10
XsupremeXand umm06:10
thoreauputickandinski: dillo is lightning quick but limited06:10
XsupremeXwill all my files and everything still be here?06:10
XsupremeXcuz this is a live cd06:10
kandinskithis is a survival kit06:10
XsupremeXits not an actual Ubuntu06:10
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BelutzXsupremeX: hmmm i don't think so06:10
kandinskijust so you know: this guy only uses webmail, so sylpheed is as out as thunderbird or evolution06:11
XsupremeXyou dont think my files will be there?06:11
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BelutzXsupremeX: maybe other people know the exact answer06:11
allenwhere can I find decoders to play mp3s, divx, xvid?06:11
thoreauputickandinski: OK - he will need firefox for webmail I would say06:11
XsupremeXDoes any1 else know??06:11
kandinskihe is a writer, he writes, does budgets on spreadsheet, surfs, uses webmail. That is his thing.06:11
XsupremeXif ur using a live cd06:11
deFryskallen I gave you a link for restricted formats06:11
XsupremeXwill ur files still be there when you reboot?06:11
thoreauputickandinski: dillo doesn't do ssl / https06:11
kandinskithoreauputic: thanks. dillo javascript support not good?06:12
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thoreauputickandinski: non existent06:12
XsupremeXDoes anyone here know?06:12
kandinskiok06:12
XsupremeXlol06:12
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BelutzXsupremeX: what files you want to save ?06:12
thoreauputickandinski: still worth installing - it's tiny06:12
XsupremeXwell like all of them06:12
XsupremeXlol06:13
kandinskithanks thoreauputic deFrysk, I see that Ubuntu will mostly be a survival kit for me to save his work in case of problems. Also for autopsy (the program, not the procedure).06:13
BelutzXsupremeX: you talking about files on your linux partition or on your windows partition?06:13
deFrysklol kandinski06:13
XsupremeXwindows06:13
kandinskiif this guy weren't one of my closest friends I would be chucking him out on the street.06:13
thoreauputicMyrtti: you there? what was that about a ban?06:13
XsupremeXlike aim, warcraft, trillian etc06:13
BelutzXsupremeX: ow... it will stay there :D06:13
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XsupremeXk06:14
BelutzXsupremeX: don't worry about it :)06:14
XsupremeXk06:14
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XsupremeXalso06:14
XsupremeXi cant run aim06:14
XsupremeXfor some reason06:14
XsupremeXCouldn't display "/home/ubuntu/Desktop/aim.exe"06:14
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CarlFKwhat I want to run on boot is pastebot - I think i need to run it in screen, and not as root.  is there an easy way, or do I figure out the su/screen commands?06:14
AnswerXsupremeX: use gaim.06:14
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Belutzaim.exe?06:14
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deFryskexe ?06:14
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deFrysklol06:15
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XsupremeXyes that was the aim.exe06:15
AnswerXsupremeX: use gaim06:15
allenok will start from there06:15
BelutzXsupremeX: linux can't execute .exe files06:15
XsupremeXo06:15
XsupremeXwell how do i launch them then?06:15
AnswerXsupremeX: Use gaim.  Do not continue to ask about aim.exe here unless you are running a windows emulator...06:15
deFryskthose poor M$ heads06:15
BelutzXsupremeX: use gaim...06:15
XsupremeXumm06:15
XsupremeXwhat about06:15
XsupremeXwarcraft?06:15
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XsupremeXhow do i run that...06:15
XsupremeX??06:15
XsupremeXlol06:15
BelutzXsupremeX: you could use wine or cadega06:16
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deFryskcedega*06:16
XsupremeXumm whats that??06:16
AnswerXsupremeX: Join the petitions for a port of Warcraft to Linux06:16
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gabbermanneed help for ISA sound card installion? anyone?06:16
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BelutzdeFrysk: ths for the correction :)06:17
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XsupremeXima brb ima reboot the comp... cuz its running really slow....06:17
pluffsyhello (again)06:17
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osfameronffs, following instructions in !wine, IE setup still fails06:17
XsupremeXso  brb06:17
osfamerononly it takes 30 minutes longer06:17
osfameronto get to that point, I mean06:17
gabbermananyone know the ISA terminal codes for installing an ISA sound CARD?06:17
Myrttithere you go06:17
pluffsyclicking on the trackpad is right now handled like a mouse left click. can I somehow remove this behavior?06:17
Myrttikwikstah: have fun06:18
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pluffsyThe Mouse preferences don't provide any options for this (that I can see anyway)06:18
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thoreauputickwikstah: OK now?06:18
Sudowazup06:19
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gabbermanSound card help anyone??06:19
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kwikstahhello, sorry about that06:19
thoreauputicOK06:19
thoreauputickwikstah: I guess you won't do it again ;-)06:19
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kwikstahyup, i won't06:20
Sudodoes anyone know where to get the drivers for D-link DFM-562is? thanks06:20
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gabbermansound card help anyone?06:20
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CodeWarrior_hello folks06:21
LethAway`awayWhy hello tere06:21
inthenowhow do i put flash in the web browser06:21
inthenowcan i do it in the browser now?06:21
CodeWarrior_I'd like to know if there's somebody here that use Ubuntu PPC on OldWorld Macs G3 beige ?06:21
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erUSUL!tell inthenow about flash06:21
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CodeWarrior_nobody ?06:22
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LethAL-RocksCodeWarrior_, nope06:23
allenthanks guys! I have to go now.. I'll catch you tomorrow!06:23
gabbermanI too need help06:23
gabberman:)06:23
gabbermanheh06:23
LethAL-RocksSo do I06:23
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gabbermanheh06:23
CodeWarrior_yeah, I think so06:23
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dexHello everybody, is ubuntu 5.10 ok for a new user of linux like me?06:24
LethAL-Rocksdex, no no no no no!06:25
LethAL-Rocksdex, go back to Hoary06:25
dexLethal_Rocks: but why?06:25
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dexisn't it the latest ubuntu?06:26
GoClickHow do I shutdown X, I keep trying to edit my xorg.conf from inside of it (it's trying to make my monitor do way too high of resolutions) and I make my edits save the file and then logout or restart and it's right back to the way it was, so I figure if I edit from a consol I'll be ok. But I don't know how to shutdown X, I tried killing x-session-manager and I got kicked out of my consol and back to the X login screen. So how do I exit X to a consol?06:26
Rockett18dex> it's still in development06:26
pluffsydex: it's just a preview release06:26
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pluffsydex: I am new to ubuntu too and installed it, couldn't even get it log in. nothing worked for me.06:26
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LethAL-RocksGoClick, You can't really shut it down, but Ctrl-Alt-Backspace will restart it06:26
^DodGeR^howdy all06:26
kwikstahinteresting. installation worked perfectly for me06:26
GoClickHow can I boot to a consol?06:27
tokenbadI have installed proftpd and when installed I messed up and told it to use inetd to run...I then removed it...and reinstalled but it didn't ask me any of the stuff like it did the first time...is there a way to remove proftpd so I can reinstall it to use standalone?06:27
LethAL-RocksYou don't need to to change xorg.conf06:27
dexHoary or woody?06:27
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LethAL-Rocksdex, hoary06:27
CarlFKwoody?06:27
dexok06:27
LethAL-RocksCarlFK, Woody is an older release06:27
GoClickLethAL-Rocks what do I need to change? The resolution switcher isn't workinfg06:27
GoClickignore that f06:27
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LethAL-RocksGoClick, one mo06:28
erUSULGoClick: boot to single user mode in grub menu06:28
tokenbadanyone know?06:28
steven_Laptopsome laptop help needed my friends :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6620806:28
meuserj|workWhen I try starting xchat using a Tor proxy, I get banned from #ubuntu... anyone here know why?06:29
grodiusI'm on an HTTP proxy at school, and i'm looking for a way to run torrents, does anyone know how?06:29
LethAL-RocksGoClick, Under sections "Screen"06:29
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miguelhi06:29
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miguelcan some1 help me out'06:29
LethAL-RocksGoClick, Chane the modes in each subsection06:29
miguel?06:29
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swackhelp!06:29
darkheart!helpme06:29
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.06:29
migueli messed up with my winxp mbr06:29
miguelnow i cannot boot win06:29
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thoreauputicmeuserj|work: I believe tor has been a source of bot problems and other evils06:29
tokenbadI have installed proftpd and when installed I messed up and told it to use inetd to run...I then removed it...and reinstalled but it didn't ask me any of the stuff like it did the first time...is there a way to remove proftpd so I can reinstall it to use standalone?06:29
miguelhow can I repair my mbr of my winxp hard drive from linux?06:30
LethAL-Rocksmiguel, you can't06:30
swackI had mysql installed, but uninstalled & deleted mysql init script... now I'm reinstalling mysql, but the install fails b/c it can't find /etc/init.d/mysql06:30
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swackshouldn't that be included in the install?06:30
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Answertokenbad:  sudo apt-get remove --purge proftp    then reinstall and it will prompt you06:30
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LethAL-Rocksmiguel, Windows CD, open recovery mode, then login and type fixmbr06:30
swackwhere can I get the init script06:30
meuserj|workthoreauputic, that blows.. people abusing it ruins it for everyone....06:30
thoreauputicmeuserj|work: indeed06:30
GoClickLethAL-Rocks That's not my problem the problem is the xorg.conf file gets overwritten06:31
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LethAL-Rocksdpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver I think06:31
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thoreauputicsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:32
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LethAL-RocksOh, other way round :P06:33
GoClickIt's the one that configured it this way to start :P06:33
GoClickThe monitor is good to like 1900 x something but I'm not... I'm 1152x864 man06:33
tokenbadAnswer, great..thanks06:33
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thoreauputic!tell GoClick about fixres06:34
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grodiusWhat Can I get as far as a windows media equivalent in linux?06:34
GoClickI edited the config and did the ctr+shift+backspace thing but x closed and didn't restart06:34
GoClickgrodius, totem06:34
LethAL-Rocksgrodius, People try not to make apps that bad06:34
philchow can I see the services running on my machine, and how can I remove a service from startup? IIRC update-rc.d doesn't do this for you06:34
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GoClickphilc to see the services running go; ps aux | more06:35
grodiusoh ok i got that06:35
deFrysk!tell philc about bum06:35
grodiusgoclick, what about inbrowser windows media?06:35
ui!tell me about bum06:35
D1WOW06:35
GoClickgrodius That's I don't know06:35
D1banshee is in breezy06:35
grodiusk06:35
D1awesomeness!06:36
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XsupremeXlag06:36
swackany help on regenerating /etc/init.d/mysql ?06:37
philcdeFrysk: very cool, need a CLI way tho06:37
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GoClickphilc there is a folder /etc/init.d/ where there are symlinks to stuff that runs on boot but then there are folders like /etc/rc5.d/ that have links to those links that get run when the machine starts in run level 5 or whatever the number is06:37
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philcGoClick: ps aux isn't strictly services06:37
GoClickphilc no it's eveything06:37
GoClickWould you like to explain the difference between a service and deamon and a program to me?06:37
grodiusAnyone know how to set up sound drivers for an audigy card06:38
dazjorzany programs to manage .BIN (CD image) files in Ubuntu ?06:38
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darkheartGoClick A daemon is a program that listens on a port for a request.06:38
philcGoClick: I'm worried less about what I explicitly ran by way of my desktop's session or what programs I'm using, and more by way of what is currently running that can be found in /etc/init.d06:38
thoreauputicGoClick: BTW the default runlevel in debian and ubuntu is 2, not 5 like RH or whatever06:38
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thoreauputictype "runlevel" to see06:39
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LethAL-RocksDoes anyone know how to make an extended partition? GParted doesn't seem to be able to do it :(06:39
miguelwhat is the linux equivalent to "fdisk /mbr" on a windows drive?06:39
migueli thin I messed up my  2nd hard drive06:40
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philcfyi apparently gentoo has rc-status to perform the task I mentioend06:41
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Hoxzerhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23628&highlight=tv-out+nvidia I used that guide but I started player in TV my mouse got there and I was not able to get it back06:41
Hoxzerhow should I get it back?06:41
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thoreauputicphilc: rcconf or bum would be similar I guess (don't know gentoo)06:42
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XsupremeXlag06:42
=== XsupremeX Belutz ya there?
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BelutzXsupremeX: yes06:43
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XsupremeXHow do i unload all those windows files?06:43
XsupremeXcuz thats whats making me lag06:43
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XsupremeXand if i wanna use them illjust get off linux later or something06:43
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XsupremeXcuz i only have like 550 mg of free space... tahts why im lagging so bad....06:43
tombshi ppl06:43
BelutzXsupremeX: "sudo umount /media/thename06:43
XsupremeXk thnx06:44
XsupremeXlol im lagging so much i cant even get to applications06:44
XsupremeXnvm i got it06:45
XsupremeXso i would do sudo umount /media/windowsferf06:45
XsupremeXright?06:45
=== XsupremeX belutz ya there? lol
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Belutzno no06:45
BelutzXsupremeX: go to /media06:46
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BelutzXsupremeX: you'll see a list of directory06:46
XsupremeXthen what?06:46
philcthoreauputic: you're a genious, rcconf is brilliant. Thanks06:47
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thoreauputicphilc: :)) you're welcome06:47
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BelutzXsupremeX: could you tell me the name of the directory?06:47
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dazjorzhumm-humm06:48
dazjorzdoes someone here knows a capturing program to capture the whole screen in a video file untill you press a certain key or something?06:48
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philchow often are the breezy package repositories updated? Seems like I get 100 updates per day06:48
philcis every revision in those repos?06:49
XsupremeXk  sec06:49
XsupremeXim lagging like a bitch... i can barely do anything...06:49
XsupremeXand its not opening terminal cuz im lagging so much06:49
XsupremeXlol06:49
dazjorzshut off any programs you aren't currently using...06:49
dazjorzit'll help06:50
thoreauputicphilc: some heavy bug squashing happening between now and release06:50
ribbohi, just booted my Desktop machine (running Hoary_64). during boot says that it cannot access hardware clock... (Hmm, OK I thought)06:50
ribboNow I cannot log in either, does not accept my password06:50
thoreauputicXsupremeX: run "yop" and see what's eating  your resources06:50
thoreauputicbah06:50
ribbois the bios clock used somehow when hashing a password?06:50
thoreauputics/yop/top06:50
dazjorzhey dudes ? how to capture the screen into a video file ?06:51
GoClickribbo well time changes so getting the same hash again would be impossible06:51
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thoreauputicXsupremeX: ctrl-alt-F1 to get a tty if you can't get a terminal, alt-F7 to return to X06:52
GoClickribbo which password[s]  are you wondering about?06:52
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ribboGoClick: My login to the machine06:52
ribboI have used Knoppix to edit /etc/shadow06:52
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ribboto remove the password for my account06:52
ribbostill no login06:53
thoreauputicribbo: why??06:53
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thoreauputicribbo: that was silly06:53
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HumanPrototypedoes anybody have any idea how to get ubuntu on a portable hdd to boot as if it is a usb-zip device?06:54
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x[trick] xjsut want to ask... i've just finished burning the kubuntu 386-iso06:54
ribboI did make a backup, remember that tis was after I tried many other things06:54
thoreauputicribbo: boot in recovery mode and reset your passwd06:54
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x[trick] xhow will i start installing it?06:54
ribbothoreauputic: did not work06:54
=== XsupremeX its cuz of the windows files
thoreauputicribbo: is this breezy?06:54
GoClickribbo most hashing methods do not produce a blank hash for a blank input and many will use a salt sometimes based on the username so two users with the same password will have a different hash06:54
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=== XsupremeX thats why im trying to get rid of them... but i cant even open terminal
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GoClickribbo is the issue you forgot your password?06:54
=== XsupremeX and its pissingme off...
ribboGoClick: forgot password? No06:55
ribboGoClick: good thing I made a backup then06:55
GoClickWhy are you messing with your password file then?06:55
thoreauputicXsupremeX: can you ssh into this machine?06:55
x[trick] xwhats the command to start intalling?06:55
=== XsupremeX cuz with the windows files i only have lik 550 mg around... thats why its so laggy
ribbowell I cannot log in.06:55
=== XsupremeX dunno
=== XsupremeX ive never used ssh whatever it is
GoClickBut you just said you edited the file so you must be able to login as something06:55
ribboGoClick: via Knoppix06:55
GoClick!ssh06:55
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto06:56
grodiusIs there anything as good as photoshop for linux?06:56
p0windahheh06:56
GoClickribbo are you sure you weren't editing the knoppix pass file?06:56
ribboGoClick: yes I am06:56
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ribbojust back to first sign of problems:06:56
p0windahdoesnt really seem worth arguing... :)06:56
grodiusIve been using Gimp but it doesnt seem nearly as deep06:57
grodiusto me at elast06:57
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grodiusim really used to PS tho06:57
x[trick] xjsut want to ask... i've just finished burning the kubuntu 386-iso. how can i start installing it??06:57
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ribbokernel cannt acceess hardware clock during bot06:57
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Dr_Willisribbo,  what kind of machine ribbo ?06:57
thoreauputicgrodius: try installing grokking the gimp06:57
p0windahI use gimp for small things and think I rock06:57
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darkheartx[trick] x Did you have Ubuntu burned already? Cause you can just install kubuntu through apt-get.06:57
thoreauputicgrodius: I forget the exact package name06:57
p0windahmy friends who do it pro. laugh at me06:58
ribboWhic is why i asked if it(the clock) is used when something is hashed06:58
XsupremeXdude if i cant access the terminal you think i could acses the internet.... lol06:58
GoClickribbo perhaps Ubuntu and Knoppix use different hashing algs06:58
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ribboDr_Willis: AMD_6406:58
XsupremeXGAA DAMN LAGG....... SO GAY06:58
ribboGoClick: true06:58
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bhearsumdos does hoary support swusp2?06:58
x[trick] xwhats apt-get??? yeah i've already write the whole kubuntu 38606:58
Tweek888Yo06:59
darkheartx[trick] x Are you running ubuntu right now?06:59
thoreauputicgrodius: the package name is grokking-the-gimp :)06:59
dazjorzthoreauputic: great Ubuntuer, ... Do you know a program to capture your screen into a video files ?06:59
x[trick] xnope06:59
p0windahx[trick] x: are you trolling ?06:59
GoClickx[trick] x apt-get is a medium-low level program for getting and installing software06:59
x[trick] xim still using windwos06:59
GoClickribbo did you try and make a user on knoppix and copy the line to your other file?06:59
darkheartx[trick] x Well, you only really need one of those because you can install the other through a packaging system.06:59
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Tweek888I tried installing Gtk+ Dev, and now Gnome doesn't work06:59
GoClickribbo I think it'd be better use use a Ubuntu Live CD for this rather than Knoppix if you can06:59
Tweek888any ideas?06:59
thoreauputicdazjorz: heh - no I don't, but there's a flash thing that does that in linux (forget the name)06:59
ribboGoClick: not yet06:59
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Echelon-His there any CD-Burning program you recommand?07:00
dazjorzthoreauputic: allright, :) thanks anywayz :)07:00
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x[trick] xso where could i get that?? do i have to include that apt to the cd??07:00
dazjorzEchelon-H: doesn't Nero work in WINE ?07:00
HumanPrototypegrodius, how much did you pay for PS?07:00
Tweek888Echelon-H k3b?? :<07:00
p0windahapt is included on the CD07:00
GoClickribbo can we dcc?07:00
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ribboGoClick: gotcha! But does md5hash use the hardware clock when it hashes a password...just seems strange that both issues occur at the same time07:00
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Echelon-Hi dont want nero under wine.07:01
gabbermanany can help with sound problems?07:01
GoClickby default md5 doesn't use the clock07:01
dazjorzthoreauputic: it's called vnc2swf07:01
Echelon-HI want something native.07:01
x[trick] xwhere can i findthat? :(07:01
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GoClickIt would never be a good idea to use the clock for passwords07:01
Tweek888Gtk + dev made Gnome not work, any ideas on fixing it?07:01
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gabbermanshonas a fatty07:01
darkheartx[trick] x It's part of Ubuntu, just install it.07:01
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grodiushumanprototype I warezed it ^_^07:01
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x[trick] xcan you give me the command??07:01
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x[trick] x:)07:01
OSx86_Mafiadazjorz, istanbul07:01
darkheartx[trick] x To install?07:01
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grvhey all07:01
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x[trick] xyap07:01
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llpamiesI'm on ubuntu64 and I've installed x.org-drivers-fglrx and restricted modules, then I put fglrx in xorg.conf, and I can get acceleration.07:02
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darkheartx[trick] x The command is 'Put the CD in the drive and restart your computer'07:02
Echelon-His there no GNOME burning client?07:02
ribboGoClick: hat I am trying to say does the algorhythm(sp) use clock cycles to generate the hash07:02
bhearsumnautilus does cd burning07:02
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GoClickbhearsum NO07:02
x[trick] xok07:02
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gabberman- - SHONA EATS FOOD - -    - - - ALL THE TIME - - -        - - - SHE'S THINKING OF FOOD RIGHT NOW - - -07:02
bhearsumGoClick: i never said i recommended it07:02
darkheartx[trick] x You better be careful if you want to keep your Windows partition.07:02
x[trick] xhehehe07:02
bhearsumi just said it did07:02
gabberman- - - SHE DOESNT KNOW - - -07:02
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gabberman- - - MOUTH MOUTH MOUTH - - -07:02
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darkheartgabberman Shut up07:03
GoClickbhearsum sorry I dunno what happend I typed rib and hit tab07:03
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x[trick] xwell.. i've decided to remove my windows07:03
Echelon-Hcan nautilus burn audiocd?07:03
bhearsumGoClick: alright, heh07:03
GoClickribbo NO it does NOT use the clock07:03
x[trick] xso i have to reformat my hdd first :(07:03
HumanPrototypegrodius, well how much is PS retailing for? and how much is the gimp retailing for? ... exactly - you have your reason for the differences07:03
dazjorzOSx86_Mafia: huh ?07:03
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darkheartx[trick] x Ubuntu install will do that for you.07:03
Sonny_WertzikCan anyone tell me if there is linux software to control my APC XS 800?07:03
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x[trick] xwell wish me luck07:03
ribboGoClick: thanks07:03
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grvi cannot connect to yahoo using gaim, ever since i started conncting using dsl07:04
p0windahhe's gonna nuke his machine07:04
grvi am on ubuntu 4.1007:04
llpamiesdirect rendering: no07:04
GoClickribbo md5 is for making a hash that is reproducable same input will always make the same output and clock cycles wouldn't be very good because then the passwords would bever work07:04
OSx86_Mafiadazjorz, istanbul, its the name of a desktop session video recording prog07:04
dexhello again. is 5.04 the same installation process as 5,10?07:04
dexhello again. is 5.04 the same installation process as 5.10?07:04
darkheartp0windah The same time that we decide that it's not for you either.07:04
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p0windahwell he is prolly gonna screw up his partitions or something and come back here moaning07:04
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p0windahwhy not suggest he try a liveCD ?07:04
grodiushumanprototype but PS is a better program overall, I wouldnt buy it, but given the choice if i had both for free, id choose PS07:05
darkheartp0windah And how is that different from anyone else messing up?07:05
llpamieshttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/36564907:05
darkheartp0windah Maybe he doesn't want the LiveCD version07:05
p0windahI guess you're right07:05
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p0windahits not like its my system07:05
picassohi. im dumb, i just installed amarok but i can't get artsd to play mp3 files07:05
blowjobbachip07:05
HumanPrototypegrodius, yes, most people would, but PS isnt free and gimp is07:05
picassoit plays ogg's, does anyone know how to get it to play .mp3 ?07:06
darkheartp0windah Just cause someone doesn't know anything about what they are doing, doesn't mean it's a bad idea. In fact, it's probably a good idea because they *will* learn. As long as they know the consequences of messing up =)07:06
HumanPrototypepicasso try installing the gstreamer plugins from synaptic07:06
reiki_workI think I had the right idea when I bought a new 160GB hard drive, pulled my old WinXP drive right out, slapped in the new one and told the Ubuntu installer...."take the whole thing... it's yours to do with as you wish!"07:06
reiki_work:)07:06
picassoHumanPrototype: synaptic?07:06
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llpamiesanybody knows how to set a ati works in a ubuntu64 ? This is my file: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/36564907:06
p0windahI agree darkheart07:06
picassoi've used apt-get to install all gstreamer plugins07:06
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HumanPrototypepicasso that should work then afaik07:06
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picassoah synaptic is just the gui for apt-*07:07
picassoright07:07
lsuactiafneryes07:07
dexelo everybody. I just want to ask is i can install ragnarok in ubuntu and how?07:07
darkheartpicasso Well, the GUI for libapt.07:07
OSx86_Mafiadazjorz, that seem ok? ive not used it myself, just read about it07:07
p0windahI am sure he left this channel feeling fully informed of how hard he can screw up his machine :)07:07
HumanPrototypepicasso yeah, soz, i normally use it for simplicity07:07
llpamiesI've installed fgrlx driver07:07
darkheartp0windah Heh, well he said he wanted to get rid of Windows.07:07
picassoalright well all these gstreamer plugins aren't helping me out =\07:07
llpamiesand direct rendering in NO07:07
p0windahheh07:07
p0windahthis is true07:07
llpamiesand glxgears don't rotate !07:08
inthenowWHAT, this is a first. firefox actually installed the flash plugin by itself in breezy.07:08
lsuactiafneri get 7000 in glxgears with nvidia..07:08
lsuactiafnermuhahaha07:08
picasso7000 fps?07:08
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lsuactiafneryeh07:09
dexfor anyone who can help me: I just want to ask is i can install ragnarok in ubuntu and how?07:09
inthenowdid anyone know that firefox installs flash on its own now?07:09
fredforfaenyeah inthenow07:09
OSx86_Mafiainthenow, it always could07:09
p0windahhasnt it done that for ages ?07:09
lsuactiafnergforce 6600 256ram amd64 3200+ asus a8n deluxe dual ddr07:09
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lsuactiafner1G dual ddr07:09
inthenowOSx86_Mafia: always? i had to do it manually every time. what did i do wrong?07:09
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OSx86_Mafiadunno?07:10
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NubeeOfUbuntufor anyone who can help me: I just want to ask is i can install ragnarok in ubuntu and how?07:10
llpamiesI'm on breezy !07:10
fredforfaenwtf is ragnarok07:10
OSx86_Mafiawtf is ragnarok?07:10
p0windahonline game07:11
fredforfaenlol07:11
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NubeeOfUbuntuyah online game07:11
XsupremeXyay07:11
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OSx86_Mafiaisnt that the end of the world in norse mythology?07:11
XsupremeXit didnt save the windowsfiles when i rebooted!07:11
XsupremeXso now lag is gone!07:11
XsupremeX:D07:11
fredforfaenyeah mafia07:11
BelutzXsupremeX: ic :)07:11
=== XsupremeX know any good commands?
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kentborgQuestion about kernel versions. On the Sept 9th update I got a new kernel, but the name didn't change. Is that intentional?07:12
=== XsupremeX like i already know the passwd commands
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Madeyeguys whenever I install something I got this  not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start. (i'm using breezy)07:12
=== XsupremeX those are useful
BelutzHow do I uninstall a program that i installed by compiling?07:12
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lsuactiafnerNubeeOfUbuntu : seems you need to download the source and compile it yourself07:12
=== XsupremeX but do you know any cool commands besides passwd?
lsuactiafnerBelutz ; you dont, jsut leave it07:12
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NubeeOfUbuntuok07:12
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asdxHow can I open the 59 port on Hoary?07:12
p0windahlsuactiafner: vim07:12
lsuactiafnerwont take more than 1mb space and it wont bother you07:12
p0windahsorry,07:12
inthenowIs firefox going to install java by itself now also?07:12
p0windahXsupremeX: vim07:12
Belutzlsuactiafner: ic, so it will be a junk in my hdd ?07:12
bob2asdx: there's nothing to open07:13
OSx86_MafiaBelutz, "make uninstall" in the progs src dir, does not always work though07:13
=== XsupremeX whats vim do?
bob2asdx: just run whatever you think should be listening on port 5907:13
lsuactiafnerBelutz : basically07:13
fredforfaenno inthenow07:13
p0windahXsupremeX: what doesnt it to07:13
bob2XsupremeX: it's a text editor07:13
asdxbob2: ok07:13
XsupremeXk07:13
BelutzOSx86_Mafia: ok, will try that07:13
bob2inthenow: no07:13
pluffsywhat do you use to organize your photos?07:13
bob2inthenow: ubuntu isn't allowed to include java07:13
lsuactiafnerXsupremeX : apt-get install mc07:13
bob2pluffsy: fspot07:13
lsuactiafnerXsupremeX : mc rocks07:13
XsupremeXis that a command lsua?07:13
pluffsybob2: alright07:13
XsupremeXapt-get install mc07:13
XsupremeX??07:13
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uiwhat is mc for?07:13
lsuactiafnerXsupremeX : yes07:13
p0windahXsupremeX: lynx  & w3m <- text based browsers07:13
NubeeOfUbuntulsuactiafner: about my installation of ubuntu 5.10. why is it that it takes too long for getting an update??07:13
llpamiesis fglrx driver crashed in breezy ?07:14
dazjorzui: MC is Midnight Commander07:14
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bob2mc is a text-based file manager07:14
lsuactiafnermc - Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager07:14
wdhNubeeOfUbuntu, because it needs to download a lot maybe?07:14
dazjorzui: it's like Windows "Explorer" but then console-based07:14
bob2llpamies: if it doesn't work for you, please check the bts07:14
dazjorzui: a file manager07:14
XsupremeXk07:14
OSx86_Mafiaany of you guys tried osx for x86?07:14
XsupremeXumm how do i get it?07:14
bob2llpamies: if no one else has reported the problem, you should07:14
lsuactiafnerNubeeOfUbuntu : what you mean it takes long to get an update?07:14
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bob2OSx86_Mafia: #macosx07:14
ui:o07:14
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BelutzOSx86_Mafia: it works!!! thx a lot mate! :)07:14
llpamiesbob2, what is bts ?07:15
OSx86_MafiaBelutz, no worries07:15
NubeeOfUbuntulsuactiafner: it's like my pc lag07:15
inthenowbob2: how can we tell them to include it...i thought we are trying to wipe out world poverty07:15
llpamiesbug track system ?07:15
bob2llpamies: bugzilla.ubuntu.com07:15
bob2inthenow: wtf?07:15
OSx86_MafiaBelutz, what country you from?07:15
bob2inthenow: if you want java to be included with linux distributions, ask sun to unfuck the license07:15
inthenowbob2: yes i know illogical and irrational...im waiting for cognitive therapy07:15
lsuactiafnerNubeeOfUbuntu : not sure what you mean but after an apt-get it checks all the programs to see if their compatible ect.. so it will use your cpu like a whore for 10+ seconds07:15
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bob2llpamies: yes, bug tracking system07:16
lsuactiafnerbbl07:16
llpamiesbob2, thanks07:16
=== XsupremeX problem with gaim
XsupremeXits not connecting...07:16
kentborgQuestion about kernel versions. On the Sept 9th update I got a new kernel, but the name (version) didn't change. Is that intentional?07:17
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pluffsybob2: where can I find fspot? couldn't find it on google, synpatic or freshmeat07:17
bob2kentborg: the version did, but the name did not07:17
lsuactiafnerkentborg : no.07:17
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lsuactiafnerrun uname -a07:17
bob2pluffsy: f-spot, sorry07:17
pluffsybob2: ahhh. dooh :p'07:17
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bob2kentborg: the package version, that is; not the kernel version itself07:17
OSx86_Mafiaf**kin mice in my room07:17
wdhOSx86_Mafia, two of them?07:18
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kentborgbobb2: Dang, because my wireless (ipw2100) is more flakey and I wanted to revert the kernel, but be able to boot between the two. Same name is a problem.07:18
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boogiekill the mofos07:18
OSx86_Mafiaate my switches power cable07:18
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inthenowbob2: ok im contacting them. i wont let you down07:18
XsupremeXbrb every107:18
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bob2kentborg: that's not really possible07:18
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bob2kentborg: if it's got worse, tho, please do file a bug07:18
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NubeeOfUbuntulsuactiafner: why is it that ubuntu is so slow in my pc. like when it turns to screensaver mode, im having a difficult time getting it back at ones. i have to wait a while for me to see the desktop again.. T_T07:19
kentborgbob2: not sure whether it si flakey hardware, I wanted to try the old kernel first.07:19
kentborgbob2: I even have a handy backup.07:19
bob2kentborg: you'd have to replace it with the old .deb then07:19
bob2which might not work07:19
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kentborgbob2: (and lsuactiafner) thanks.07:20
bob2kentborg: but please do file a bug if it is more flakey; I don't want breezy not working with my wireless card ;)07:21
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=== XsupremeX backs
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kentborgbob2: I am going to try reverting to the old kernel manual-style and see.07:21
x[trick] xey! need help07:22
x[trick] x:(07:22
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apokryphos!helpme07:22
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.07:22
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saldb!helpme with wireless please!07:22
ubotusaldb: Bugger all, i dunno07:22
saldbany humans in here? i'm having a bit of difficulty getting my wifi adapter working07:23
x[trick] xmy cd installer for ubundu did'nt work :(07:23
bob2it's way easier if you ask a question07:23
bob2x[trick] x: did the cd burn correctly?07:23
x[trick] xwhen i restarted my pc it says disk error :(07:23
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NubeeOfUbuntubob2: why is it my ubuntu is so slow?07:23
saldb!helpme how do i turn off the RF kill switch on my wifi card?07:23
ubotusaldb: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:23
apokryphosNubeeOfUbuntu: it isn't :D07:23
Joxerdoes ubuntu have a default ftpd installed ? ^_^07:23
x[trick] xi think so..07:23
bob2NubeeOfUbuntu: how could anyone possibly answer that?07:23
=== XsupremeX is there a way to print a msg on other computers using the terminal?????
bob2NubeeOfUbuntu: explain what specific things you think are slow07:23
apokryphossaldb: please don't play with the bot in here.07:23
bob2x[trick] x: then try again07:24
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saldbsorry i thought the bot was part of some system07:24
darkheartXsupremeX This isn't Windows07:24
bob2saldb: the bot really doesn't understand english07:24
saldbhow about russian?07:24
bob2saldb: what does linux-laptop.net say about it?07:24
=== XsupremeX is that a no?
apokryphossaldb: he's generally used to respond to particular factoids07:24
darkheartsaldb How about only keywords?07:24
NubeeOfUbuntubob2: when it is updating, i cant my move my mouse smoothly and i cant open any application07:24
saldbheh okay07:24
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apokryphossaldb: and you can investigate with him in /msg07:24
darkheartXsupremeX You want to type a message and have window pop up on another computer with the message?07:24
=== XsupremeX well my aunt said she know something like that at her old work when she had linux on it
x[trick] xi even set my bios to make my cd my first boot device but i still has the same msg :(07:24
=== XsupremeX yes
bob2XsupremeX: it's very annoying when you ask questions like that07:25
saldbok well i'd rather get my problem addressed07:25
bob2x[trick] x: so, check if the CD is ok or not07:25
darkheartXsupremeX No, that's a security issue and an annoyance.07:25
Joxerdoes ubuntu have a default ftpd installed ? ^_^07:25
bob2saldb: why dn't you go find out if it's supposed to work or not then?07:25
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x[trick] xi've tried to read the cd awhile ago and its working fine07:25
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bob2x[trick] x: that doesn't really answer my question07:25
bob2x[trick] x: when you ask it to to verify itself, does it pass or fail?07:26
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darkheartXsupremeX If you are really hell-bent on doing that, there is some program out there that will talk over a windows network to do that, but I don't remember its name.07:26
saldbbob2: the problem is the my wifi adapter has an rf switch. i've read people actually have gotten wifi to work, sadly they don't really explain how07:26
=== XsupremeX o... damn
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x[trick] xwhat do you mean by dat bob?07:26
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=== XsupremeX ill have to ask my aunt about it....
bob2saldb: wifi in general is trivial07:26
=== XsupremeX umm also gaim isnt connecting
bob2XsupremeX: stop using /me, it's bloody annoying07:26
saldbwell, i /do/ want it to work07:26
XsupremeXsorry07:26
XsupremeXlol07:26
bob2saldb: but RF kill switches are hardware specific07:26
lonewolffXsupremeX: why do you /me everything?07:26
XsupremeXgaim isnt working07:26
XsupremeXdunno07:26
bob2XsupremeX: linpopup lets you annoy windows users07:27
x[trick] xverify it self???07:27
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danquit07:27
bob2x[trick] x: boot expert mode, select the "verify cd" option07:27
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x[trick] xhavent seen that during my restart07:28
dazjorzhey uhm07:28
saldbbob2: some aren't hardware controlled07:28
x[trick] xwhere should i set that?07:28
apokryphosx[trick] x: it doesn't boot to the CD at all?07:28
dazjorzsomewhere, in a file, I put export LANG=EN_us07:28
x[trick] xyeah07:28
dazjorzI don't know what file it is again07:28
apokryphosx[trick] x: does the Ubuntu Screen come up?07:28
x[trick] xnope07:28
XsupremeXdoes anyone know why gaim isnt working for me?07:28
dazjorzcould someone give me a list of files that Ubuntu loads at boot07:28
NubeeOfUbuntubob2: why i cant even cancel what im updating? it also taking my mouse to respond to what im trying to do07:29
bob2saldb: right, but whether or not it's hardware controlled is itslef hardware-specific07:29
dazjorzor, a way to find a specific text in a file on the system07:29
apokryphosx[trick] x: are you sure you burned the CD correctly?07:29
saldbbob2: good point07:29
x[trick] xyap07:29
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bob2x[trick] x: then you've probably burnt it incorrectly, or not setup your bios properly07:29
bob2NubeeOfUbuntu: okiedokie07:29
saldbbob2: i'm loading on the ipw2200 driver, it seems to come loaded with 5.10 but i might need to reinstall it07:29
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pluffsybob2: oh my god. f-spot seems to really kick ass, seems a lot neater then iphoto.07:29
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apokryphosx[trick] x: you can either retry burning another CD, and double-checking yoru bios, or you can select another method of installation07:29
bob2saldb: hardware as in the laptop itself07:29
x[trick] xah...07:30
bob2pluffsy: yeah, I quite like it07:30
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x[trick] x:(07:30
darkheartXsupremeX If you don't give symptoms of your problem, we don't know what it might be.07:30
x[trick] xwait i'll get my cd07:30
saldbbob2: the thing is, i'm reading a faq on my exact brand notebook and the author says it just worked randomly/magically07:30
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inthenowbob2: ok i emailed the sun, lets hope it shines here07:30
apokryphosx[trick] x: if you've got enough bandwidth and a dvd burner you might like to try the DVD iso07:30
x[trick] xits good i have 2 computer here07:30
XsupremeXWell it just doesnt do anything07:31
bob2saldb: and the model number is?07:31
XsupremeXit just stays connecting07:31
XsupremeXfor like 20 mins07:31
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XsupremeXlol...07:31
NubeeOfUbuntubob2: can u tell me what happened to my installation of ubuntu and why it so slow, just like what i explained a while ago?07:31
x[trick] xi burn it using creating data cd07:31
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x[trick] xis that right??07:31
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bob2NubeeOfUbuntu: I have no idea07:31
NubeeOfUbuntubob2: pls!07:31
apokryphosx[trick] x: no07:31
bob2NubeeOfUbuntu: perhaps you don't have dma enabled07:31
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saldbbob2: nw8240 .. it's HP Compaq07:31
bob2NubeeOfUbuntu: don't be annoying07:31
x[trick] xops07:31
apokryphosx[trick] x: it's an ISO. You should burn Image07:31
apokryphosubotu: tell x[trick] x about install07:31
bob2NubeeOfUbuntu: you really shouldn't be demanding anything from strangers on irc07:31
x[trick] xdamn :(07:32
NubeeOfUbuntuoh im sorry07:32
jamey3I have just plugged in some 5.1 surround speakers and sound only comes out of the center satellite and subwoofer. How can I make it work fully?07:32
NubeeOfUbuntuthats not what i meant07:32
NubeeOfUbuntumy apologies07:32
x[trick] xso i have to use image07:32
fredforfaenyeah iso-image07:32
bob2jamey3: depends on the sound card07:32
Rockett18NubeeOfUbuntu> what graphics card do you have?07:32
apokryphosx[trick] x: check the link ubotu just gave you. Do you have Nero?07:32
x[trick] xyes i have07:33
Belutzi'm hungry07:33
jamey3bob2, it's the default integrated one on an Abit NF7-S motherboard. I think it's a Realtek chipset.07:33
inthenowwho needs help. i support linux. i cant support windows because im not stealing it anymore07:33
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jamey3inthenow, I do07:33
NubeeOfUbuntuRockett18: Inno3d nvidia TNT2 mx20007:33
darkheartXsupremeX Do you have a firewall or anything enabled?07:33
XsupremeXnot sure07:33
XsupremeXcuz im on live cd07:33
XsupremeXon ubuntu07:33
Rockett18NubeeOfUbuntu> do you have the nvidia drivers installed?07:33
andyslI am having some problems with Evolution in Breezy (using IMAP servers).  I cannot see the inbox, but I _can_ see the contents of the other folders.  Can you help me out?07:33
bob2saldb: someone claism it Just Works on the nc8220, too07:33
inthenowim tired of stealing operating systems07:33
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jamey3inthenow, great but can you help me?07:34
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inthenowjamey3: maybe07:34
inthenowshoot07:34
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jamey3I have a 5.1 speaker set and I've just plugged it into the integrated sound card on my Abit NF7-S motherboard.07:34
jamey3Sound only comes out of the centre speaker and subwoofer.07:34
NubeeOfUbuntuRockett18: i dont know07:34
bob2jamey3: what does google say about linux support for that motherboard?07:34
Rockett18!nvidia07:34
ubotunvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia07:34
jamey3well I presumed it was just a setting change since sound works fine otherwise07:35
fredforfaenjamey3 and alsamixer is a good tool07:35
jamey3but okay, will google07:35
jamey3that's what I thought it could be07:35
NubeeOfUbuntuRockett18: i just installed it from the cd.07:35
apokryphosx[trick] x: if you have Nero, I think you can even just double-click on the .ISO and Nero will do it for you07:35
saldbbob2: the author claims he recompiled DSDT and somehow that made it work07:35
NubeeOfUbuntuRockett18: the ubuntu07:35
x[trick] xis it possible to just copy the first cd that i write awhile ago to my hdd then burn a new one using image??07:35
bob2jamey3: it's possible linux doesn't support it at all, but I don't know07:35
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inthenowjamey3: i have that board...what module is loaded. did you type lsmod?07:35
NubeeOfUbuntuRockett18: i dont know how to install the video card driver. can u teach me how/07:35
bob2saldb: it's possible, some laptops do ship with broken dsdts07:36
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jamey3inthenow, nope will do now07:36
inthenowjamey3: as root07:36
jamey3snd                    50276  8 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer07:36
jamey3oh ok07:36
jgbcan someone explain to me how the Contents.i386.gz works?  To me it just looks like a filesystem listing07:36
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jamey3same result07:37
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bob2jgb: it shows what files are in which packages07:37
bob2jgb: but it's broken atm anyway07:37
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inthenowjamey3:  uname -a07:38
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inthenowwhat kernel?07:38
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jamey3Linux jamey 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Fri Jun 24 16:53:01 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux07:38
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XsupremeXDoes Ubuntu come with a firewall?07:39
XsupremeXwhen you use the live CD?07:39
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jgbok.  If I want to create an iso image of all packages on our local ftp mirror for a specific architecture, how do I go about it?07:39
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bob2XsupremeX: nope07:40
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geneo93XsupremeX:  i doubt if anyone can write to your disk07:40
jamey3ok i turned on all settings in alsamixer, that really fucked it up07:40
bob2XsupremeX: there's nothing for it to do07:40
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fredforfaenjamey3 lol07:40
dazjorzhow to install libavcodec ?07:40
fredforfaenjamey3 how did it fuck it up?07:40
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neighborleeim still getting kernel panic ( VFS:  unable to mount root fs) from a fresh kernel compile ( kernel-source-2.6.10 from synaptic ) using: /boot/config-2.6.10-5-386 ...would could be wrong ??07:41
andyslt07:41
dazjorzit's a virtual package but I need it...07:41
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jamey3fredforfaen, kept phasing volume in and out like a kid with a waa-waa pedal07:41
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jamey3oh right there's a lot of settings in alsamixer but whatever I do, nothing seems to turn on the other speakers lmao07:41
NubeeOfUbuntubob2: how would i change my root password?07:41
fredforfaenjamey3 haha...but nothing on the oher speekers?07:41
dansthi just wanted to know if someone could help me with compiling imms for bmp. i get two "undeclared" errors ("display undeclared" and "Window undeclared"). same as for this guy http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/53807:41
ompaulNubeeOfUbuntu, you would not07:41
bob2NubeeOfUbuntu: there isnt a root password to change07:42
jamey3fredforfaen, nope it's weird07:42
ompaul!tell NubeeOfUbuntu about root07:42
bob2neighborlee: you compiled it wrong07:42
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gm78Why am I not able to block a contact in Gaim using MSN?07:42
fredforfaenhmm07:42
jamey3there's three channels, two speakers on each, only the sub/centre is working07:42
bob2neighborlee: include support for you root filesystem type and ide/scsi drivers07:42
jamey3the rear l/r and front l/r aren't working at all07:42
benjam1nanyone know why i can't find eclipse anywhere through synaptic?07:42
ompaulNubeeOfUbuntu, that should help a tad - we all do the sudo again :)07:42
NubeeOfUbuntubob2: ok thx07:42
fredforfaenthats wierd07:42
bob2neighborlee: or, better still, don't compile it at all07:42
bob2benjam1n: it's not in ubuntu07:42
gm78NubeeOfUbuntu, if you want to enable a root password, issue the command sudo passwd root07:42
jamey3hm anyone know how I can solve this bugger?07:42
fredforfaenjamey3 have you googled you model/brand?07:42
benjam1nthats dumb07:42
gm78benjam1n, you have to install java and eclipse manually07:43
jamey3fredforfaen, yeah doing that now07:43
fredforfaengood good07:43
jamey3found "HOWTO: Hear multiple sounds at once" looks promising sorta07:43
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pluffsybtw. anyone here tried beagle on ubuntu? guess you need to install a newer kernel and stuff. is beagle very unstable or what is the state of it?07:43
fredforfaencool07:43
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benukHey!! ubuntu won't install on my PC :'( :'(07:43
gm78benjam1n, well, if you want to contribute millions of dollars so canonical can buy the rights to java and open source it, by all means do so ;)07:43
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neighborleebob2, I have ext3 set to 'y' as per directions for a / partition ( it can't be M ) and ide/scsi stuff is  as it was from the config which should be correct and same as my running kernel right ? (which is the stock ubuntu kernel)07:44
gm78benjam1n, until then, blame Sun for Ubuntu not shipping eclipse07:44
benjam1nanyone here know a good editor for python? one that dosnt use qt that is07:44
neoliminalAnyone know if gimpShop will end up in Universe anytime soon?  If I were leet I'd put it there myself, but I'm just a graphics guy.07:44
bob2neighborlee: no, it's not correct07:44
bob2neighborlee: compile it IN, not as a module07:44
benukisn't eclipse in the universe??07:44
bob2benuk: then explain what the problem is07:44
danstcould someone help me with this compilation problem? http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/53807:44
gm78benuk, nope...it cant be. ubuntu doesnt ship java07:44
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bob2neoliminal: talk to #ubuntu-motu07:44
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neighborleebob2, I just said im compiling it in ie: it is set to 'Y'..see my post above07:44
neoliminalbob2: what is that?07:45
war-totemanyone know the command to send an email through mutt/vim07:45
bob2neoliminal: the channel to ask for things to go into universe07:45
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benjam1nyeah but azueus i found in one of the repos maybe its an unoffial one (probably) but its in there and it uses java07:45
neoliminalbob: cool thanks!07:45
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lenhanbenjam1n: just download the java sdk and untargz eclipse manually07:45
bob2neighborlee: "ide/scsi stuff is  as it was from the config", which is not correct, since by default it is modular07:45
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bob2pluffsy: it's slow, and once I had it installed, I realised, not very useful07:45
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inthenowjamey3: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Nvidia#matrix07:46
g|patrickhi07:46
inthenowIM still looking into it07:46
neighborleebob2, i'd think the config would be same as my running kernel which I thought was the whole point of HAVING a config ?..anyway ok so illl check those settings and make sure they are set to Y then07:46
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Angel-SLhi07:46
Angel-SLanyone knows a good IDE?07:46
jamey3inthenow, thanks looking now07:46
dazjorzxvidcap: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory07:46
dazjorzlibpng is installed ?!07:46
gm78benjam1n, as far as i know azureus isnt in the ubuntu repos....ill have to double check though. do you have any non-ubuntu repos enabled?07:46
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bob2neighborlee: no, as I explained yesterday, the ubuntu kernel has everything modularised, so it requires an initrd to boot07:47
bob2dazjorz: no, it's not07:47
lenhanAngel-SL: kdevelop or eclipse07:47
dazjorzbob2: aptitude says it is07:47
bob2dazjorz: install libpng207:47
Angel-SLa C/C++ Development IDE07:47
jamey3inthenow, ok what the hell does that mean? :_)07:47
jamey3*:-)07:47
Angel-SLthanks lenhan07:47
dazjorzbob2: libpng10 and libpng12..07:47
bob2dazjorz: neither of which are libpng207:47
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gm78Angel-SL, for eclipse, install the C/C++ plugin, since by default it is a java IDE07:47
lenhanAngel-SL: np07:47
dazjorzbob2: ok, i'll install that one too then :)07:47
inthenowjamey3: nm it...im just trying to help you07:48
Angel-SLhold on07:48
bob2dazjorz: libfoo.so.N is generally in libfooN07:48
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Angel-SLwrong channel07:48
dazjorzbob2: thanks :)07:48
Angel-SLi have debian and ubuntu07:48
Angel-SLwhy am i asking here..07:48
CryptidI cant find BMP in Synaptec07:48
dazjorzbob2: seems to work07:48
obscuriteHello. I am a future ubunutu type person. =)07:48
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gm78Angel-SL, this is the ubuntu channel07:48
bob2Cryptid: beep-media-player07:48
obscuriteTrying to decide on a notebook.07:48
fredforfaenobscurite good!07:48
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bob2but it's not very useful07:48
Angel-SLtho i am banned in #Debian >_<07:48
Cryptidbob2 Yes07:48
lenhanAngel-SL: eclipse is not in the repositories and java isn't in the repositories by default either; just download them manually07:49
bob2yes, for being a gimp07:49
gm78bob2, i find bmp to be much better than xmms....altho i prefer kaffeine to both of them07:49
inthenowjamey3 http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Nvidia&card=.&chip=nForce&module=intel8x007:49
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Cryptidbob2, is Bmp not good atall07:49
inthenowdont be too quick to do what it says there07:49
lenhanAngel-SL: don't use eclipse unless you've got a lot of memory to spare; CDT is the C/C++ plugin I believe07:49
bob2Cryptid: it's like xmms but with anti-aliased menus07:49
rob^^^is there a way to force a colordepth for X on the livecd from the boot prompt?07:49
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obscuriteThere any good resources for someone shopping for an ubuntu portable aside from the usual suspecs (google, tuxmobil, linux-laptops)07:49
neighborleebob2, ok so then the config info shoud be building the kernel correctly since I changed no ide/scsi settings at all meaning they are modularized...( setting M )...and I do have initrd set to Y in the kernel so that is ok..what does that leave ? (I made no other changes)07:49
bob2gm78: how is it different?07:49
gm78Cryptid, i used to use it before switching to kaffeine, liked it much better than xmms07:50
inthenowjamey3: dont be to quick to follow those instructions07:50
bob2neighborlee: no, because you'd have to build it with --initrd and configure the bootloader to use it, too07:50
fredforfaengm78 i like BMP very much to :P07:50
bob2obscurite: the wiki07:50
Cryptidgm78, Kaffeine looks like a Vid player rite?07:50
obscuritebob2, thanks07:50
gm78bob2, uses gtk2....but the main differences are the menu layouts and such...much more user friendly in my opinion07:50
pluffsywill 5.10 ship with the 2.6.12 kernel from the preview or the 2.6.13?07:50
neighborleebob2, what do you mean --initrd ??07:50
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gm78Cryptid, it is like Windows Media Player...it plays everything. i use it for both music and video07:50
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gm78pluffsy, i believe 2.6.1207:51
fredforfaengm78 cool07:51
inthenowjamey3: maybe it has something to do with the .asoundrc file07:51
fredforfaendidnt know that it could play video07:51
inthenowjamey3: did you read that part?07:51
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bob2gm78: right, which no one ever uses, since it has controls in the main menu for basically everything07:51
pluffsygm78, alright... 2.6.13 would be neat, so it was easy to install beagle when it gets stable. well well.07:51
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bob2neighborlee: man make-kpkg07:51
gm78Cryptid, it is a kde app though. i use it anyways, since i dont care if i run a "pure" desktop07:51
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obscuriteanyone have a lappy that's particularly ubuntu or linux friendly that they adore?07:51
bob2pluffsy: the ubuntu kernel has inotify07:52
bob2obscurite: ibm x4007:52
bob2obscurite: I'm yet to see a nicer laptop07:52
pluffsybob2: oooh. alright. great. does the hoary kernel have it?07:52
benukwhen i try to install breezy, in the install it gets to the bit where it runs /etc/hotplug/usb.pc and just hangs there07:52
gm78bob2, ah, but the second you install plugins, you sort of have to use the menus ;)07:52
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bob2pluffsy: yes, it seems07:52
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obscuritebob2, my only requirements is 2gb of ram and at usable vmware speed07:52
bob2benuk: please file a bug07:52
pluffsybob2: cool. :)07:53
bob2pluffsy: (grep -i inotif /boot/config*)07:53
Angel-SLany more IDEs (definetly NOT Anjuta)07:53
pluffsybob2: btw sorry for harassing you with all these questions all the time.07:53
bob2obscurite: ibm makes very lovely linux-friendly laptops07:53
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llpamiesI installed breezy and the first boot appear a splash image in the boot. Then I update the kernel, and the splash disappeared. How can I set it again ?07:53
Cryptidfredforfaen, from where did u get BMP i cant find it in synaptic07:53
benukcould someone help me plz07:53
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yhannhi to all, i need help how to install an application on Kubuntu07:53
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fredforfaenCryptid ill get you the tutorial07:53
obscuritebob2, thanks again07:53
nuk130nyhann: from source ?07:54
VersedI have a toshiba but not sure I want to put it on it.07:54
digitizeyhann: in the same manner you would with any debian distro, apt-get install app07:54
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bob2obscurite: (wikiubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam)07:54
yhannNo, from distro07:54
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neighborleebob2, alright so I presume cramfs is indeed patched in the 2.6.10 sources ?07:54
fredforfaenhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories07:54
bob2llpamies: "update the kernel"? you compiled your own kernel?07:54
bob2neighborlee: the ubuntu ones, yes07:54
fredforfaenthere Cryptid07:54
nuk130nyhann: or, if you're a newbie use synaptic07:54
lenhanAngel-SL: those two are ones I recommend, unless you prefer xemacs or vim ;-)07:54
inthenowjamey3: try creating the .asoundrc file it says on the url i gave you07:55
obscuritebob2, reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsFujitsu07:55
MagicStickhi guys..can anyone tell me how to check what services are running?07:55
llpamiesbob2, no I update from amd64 to amd64-k807:55
Cryptidfredforfaen, thanx i tried it worked i got a lot new software :-)07:55
neighborleebob2, ok thx yes i mean the ones availble from synaptic07:55
digitizeMagicStick: ps x07:55
nuk130nyhann: you should find the shortcut in the kde menu somewhere07:55
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Cryptidfredforfaen, according to u which is better BMP or XMMS07:55
fredforfaenCryptid yeah lotsa good stuff there07:55
benukwhen i try to install breezy, in the install it gets to the bit where it runs /etc/hotplug/usb.pc and just hangs there.......what does everyone recoemmedn?07:55
gm78obscurite, check out www.linux-laptop.net also....some very good info there07:55
fredforfaenBPM07:55
digitizeCryptid: i like amarok (a kde player)07:55
x[trick] xbob when i burn a cd.. i should choose burn image?? is that right??07:55
obscuritegm78 - already scoured it =)07:55
wezzerhmm, beagle isn't working at breezy07:55
fredforfaenI love it...user friendly , gtk2 , and cool skins07:55
gm78obscurite, oh, lol07:55
bob2benuk: file a bug so it can be fixed07:55
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bob2x[trick] x: depends if you're burning a cd image or not07:56
obscuritegm78 - tuxmobil is good too07:56
MagicStickdigitize: that only shows the processes. i would like to know which services/daemons are running07:56
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boogiebeagle is a piece of crap beta project07:56
MagicStickeg ssh, apache07:56
Cryptiddigitize, even i like it but all of a sudden it stopped working07:56
digitizeMagicStick: type it as root07:56
yhannnuk130n: how can you use synaptic for something is not in package?07:56
x[trick] xill be using it as a installation cd of kubuntu07:56
llpamiesHow can I set again the boot splash ?07:56
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BiSK-8hello07:56
bob2MagicStick: how are you defining daemon?07:56
fredforfaenCryptid bummer07:56
fredforfaenwhats the error?07:56
gm78yhann, well then you have to follow the install instructions for that piece of software. read the README file07:56
obscuriteI imagine the best supported hardware is the one the main kernel devs use... but I don't have that inside info. Probably mostly IBM =)07:56
digitizehow many of you guys (with a 5.04 install) have updated sources.list with the breezy badger (5.10) repositories?07:56
inthenowjamey3: see this part in the last link i gave you  Lars G     terraformers@gmx.net07:57
dazjorzanyone who can help me with mounting .BIN / .CUE files to a filesystem ?07:57
inthenowSaturday, 08 November 200307:57
nuk130nyhann: not in package? do you have a .deb file? or are you compiling it from the source?07:57
bob2obscurite: linus's current desktop is apparently an ibm power5 workstation07:57
Cryptidfredforfaen, it says it claims that i cant play ne files where as i have all the codecs installed and the same files play in other players like totem07:57
yhannok, let me check the file...07:57
NubeeOfUbuntuwhere can i find a manual of ubuntu 5.04, so i can print it and study it. thx07:57
BiSK-8how can i see what hardware installed 2 my computer via ubuntu? i would like 2 know the motherboard brand and model and my processor model....is that possibile?07:57
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fredforfaenCryptid that sucks07:57
bob2obscurite: my only complaint about my x40 is that my hard disk is getting quite warm while upgrading to breezy07:57
obscuritebob2, I read he started using ppc when he got a dual 2.5 g5 gift07:57
ubuntulnxhi! anyone with experience on cpu temperature readings from /proc/acpi/thermal_zone??07:58
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lenhanbob2: hehehe07:58
ubuntulnxthis directory is empty for me07:58
fredforfaenCryptid not shure i can help you but .........if you run it from cli does it output a error?07:58
bob2ubuntulnx: then your hardware isnt announcing temperatures using acpi07:58
bob2ubuntulnx: or the kernel doesn't know how to interpret it07:58
lenhanbob2: I suppose breezy can't keep your harddrive cool ;-)07:58
Cryptidfredforfaen, it actually dosent run ne thing it says command not found07:59
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obscuritebob2, I might go powerppc except i'm keen to learn Xen which is x86 only right now07:59
fredforfaenCryptid damn , im sorry to say that all i got for you then is google my friend :)07:59
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x[trick] xbob i just want to clarify.. after i donwloaded the kubuntu 386-iso i have to extract it then i have tu write it on a cd using burn image?07:59
x[trick] xis that right??07:59
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ubuntulnxbob2, ok.. ill see what settings are available in my bios (btw i can see cpu temperature, fan speed and voltages in bios)08:00
x[trick] xmy nero version is 5.508:00
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Cryptidfredforfaen, its ok thats y i was planning to use BMP or XMMS now i am unable to understand which to use BMP or XMMS08:00
bob2obscurite: ppc laptops have issues with wireless, too08:00
bob2x[trick] x: extract it?08:00
gm78x[trick] x, no....just select burn image and then select the iso image within nero08:00
gerarconehello, i have a 386 version of the kernel. how can i download the 686 version?08:00
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bob2gerarcone: sudo aptitude install linux-68608:01
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obscuritebob2, yeah, i am very angry about the broadcom/airport extreme nonsense. definitely lost apple a sale!08:01
fredforfaenCryptid well give BPM a go , its worth it i think...but xmms is good to , old school!08:01
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benukguess i wont instal ubuntu then :(08:01
gm78fredforfaen, BMP...not BPM :-P08:01
RugHowdy all08:01
fredforfaengm78 sorry im stoned and drunk so...:P08:01
boogieyou should install gentoo instead, it's much faster08:01
gm78fredforfaen, (minor nitpick)08:01
fredforfaenlol08:01
fredforfaenyeah08:02
gm78fredforfaen, lol\08:02
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microsoft_bobha ha!!!08:02
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gerarconebob2: is there a command to view all the possible kernels?08:02
fredforfaenSKL!08:02
RIVANVXhi, I have a problem with a laptop. In breezy, battery status occasionally (every second or every third refresh) shows 0% - then it gets back to normal again08:02
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bob2gerarcone: apt-cache search --names-only linux-image-08:03
RugWhat are the rules for setting up a Ubuntu mirror?  (I install it about 2-3 times per week) and if I had a local net-copy it would speed up install times.  I would only rsync once per month or so..08:03
bob2Rug: "go for it"08:03
chrissturmrug: you could use apt-proxy08:03
obscuritebob2, is IBM the cheapest place to get an IBM?08:03
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Cryptidi got a Acer S2W 3300v Flat bed scanner but i am unable to use it on my Ubuntu what do i do Ubuntu dosent detect it automatically08:04
pluffsybtw. can any free software read nikons NEF files? I think I've heard the format is proprietary.08:04
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Rugbob2: chrissturm:    Thanks...08:04
bradypusuuufffffffffffffff08:04
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bradypushi08:05
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gm78Cryptid, it might not be support. check the sane website (google for it)08:05
bradypushi08:05
bradypushi08:05
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bob2obscurite: no08:05
bob2obscurite: froogle.google.com08:05
bob2bradypus: do you really want to be banned?08:05
bradypushi08:05
Rugbradypus: Hello08:05
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jessy#ubuntu-fr08:05
KyralHey Seveas is your FreeNX repo working?08:05
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bradypushi08:06
engieI upgraded to breezy yesterday, and today there's a load of updates for me. Is this because it's still beign finished, or did the dist-upgrade yesterday miss a few packages?08:06
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bradypus=))))))))))))))))))08:06
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bob2bradypus: are you done?08:06
engieWhen I say few, I mean about 150...08:06
bradypusyea08:06
SeveasKyral, no08:06
bradypus=)08:06
reiki_workok I have to admit I'm confused.... if I want to change the look of my Ubuntu desktop. Do I look for a GDM Theme? A GTK2 Theme? Or do you just change backgrounds and window borders?08:06
bob2bradypus: do you really think it's ok to annoy 600 strangers?08:06
bradypusyea08:06
KyralCan you tell me where I can get the Breezy FreeNX server then?08:06
bob2engie: breezy is still under heavy development08:06
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darkheartengie Breezy is unstable, expect a lot of updates at any time.08:07
engieCheers08:07
fredforfaencheers08:07
bob2reiki_work: gdm = login screen08:07
bob2reiki_work: gtk2 = widgets08:07
dazjorz./uplink: relocation error: ./uplink: undefined symbol: __glutRoot08:07
darkheartreiki_work What WM do you use?08:07
dazjorzwhat's this ?08:07
bob2dazjorz: it's miscompiled08:07
dazjorzbob2: I didn't compile the game...08:07
engiedarkheart: It makes me feel like I'm back on Sid - happy times...08:07
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Kyralor will the Hoary Backport version of the FreeNX package work in Breezy?08:08
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darkheartengie Haha. I personally get enough of 'making things work' when I'm at work, so at home I stick with the stable releases.08:08
SeveasKyral, i'm working on it -- the hoary one will not work08:08
Kyralgaah....I wanna get offa VNC and onto something more secure...08:08
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darkheartKyral In general, don't count on things going smoothly if you use a package from a different version..That kind of stuff breaks things.08:09
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SeveasKyral, wait a few minutes, it's almost back :)08:09
Kyralty ty08:09
darkheartKyral Tunnel your VNC through SSH.08:09
KyralI'm kinda going it oddly08:09
CryptidDoes Breezy have more hardware support08:09
KyralSee, I'm VNC'd right now talking to you08:09
Kyralso I'm installing it over VNC :D08:09
gm78Cryptid, yes, it should, since it is using a newer kernel08:09
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CryptidKernel version of Ubuntu 5.0 and 5.10 please08:10
Kyralthere is no Ubuntu 5.0 :P08:10
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gm78Cryptid, Ubuntu 5.04 has 2.6.10, Ubuntu 5.10 should have kernel 2.6.12.508:10
benukwhen i try to install breezy, in the install it gets to the bit where it runs /etc/hotplug/usb.pc and just hangs there.......what does everyone recoemmedn?08:10
gm78i think anyways08:10
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bob2benuk: have you filed a bug yet?08:10
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gm78benuk, file a bug, like someone said before08:10
benuk:( ok08:11
KyralSo if I have sshd working (and I made a pub/private key), FreeNX should encrypt it?08:11
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xSpecialistxwho here use dc_gui program?! because i dont know how connect this network!!!08:11
benuki tried to install the hoary cd i got via the post and it wont even boot off it08:11
benukbut it does off my mates08:11
benuktried 2 different cds08:11
bob2Kyral: presumably the other way round08:11
keeneHas anyone been able to compile NVU yet?08:11
Kyraleh?08:11
Seveasssh encrypts freenx :)08:11
bob2Kyral: presumably ssh encryprs NX08:11
roham!theme08:11
uboturoham: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!08:11
darkheartkeene There is a package for nvu08:11
Kyralyah thats what I meant08:11
roham!themes08:12
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com08:12
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xSpecialistx!dc08:12
ubotuxSpecialistx: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?08:12
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keenedarkheart, where? It's not in synaptic08:12
gm78keene, dont bother compiling it. just untar the linspire tarball of it and it should work. you can also get an autopackage build for it08:12
Kyraloh someone mind explaining what the pub/private key I made was good for?08:12
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darkheartkeene Have you added any additional repositories?08:12
Seveasfor nothing08:12
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Seveasfreenx and ssh create the keys they need08:12
keeneI added the ones for the restricted formats08:12
siimohi anyone here use gnome 2.12? i can only log in as root when i try to log in as a user through GDM it just sits there on the blank blue background screen08:12
keeneand one for Wine08:12
Kyralthen why in the Ubuntu Wiki on SSH it says to make them?08:13
bob2keys are useful for ssh, yes08:13
darkheart!tell keene about repositories08:13
engieOhh, usplash works nice now :)08:13
mindmedicsiimo, how can you log in as root? there is no root password?08:13
bob2since they allow you to authenticate without using passwords08:13
Kyralah08:13
siimomindmedic, i set one08:13
gm78darkheart, i dont believe nvu is in any of the repos08:13
reiki_workdarkheart: sorry... has to step away for a sec... lunch arrived. I use Gnome, I thank you for your explainations of what the pieces are. :)08:13
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mindmedicah, ok, i use 2.12, and had no issues08:13
Kyralso instead of having to type my password, if I have the public key on the machine I'm shhing from, I don't have to type it?08:14
Kyralsshing even08:14
mindmedicsiimo, have you tried creating a new user and login with it.08:14
darkheartreiki_work That was bob2 that explained it to ya =)08:14
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reiki_workdang it08:14
reiki_work:)08:14
reiki_workbob2: thanks!08:14
gm78keene, have u tried the linspire build? or the autopackage build?08:14
bob2Kyral: you can set it up like that, yes08:14
Kyraland the private key is for what then?08:15
Kyralsorry I'm new to the whole SSH setup thing08:15
darkheartgm78 It's in the backports collection.08:15
VersedI was in compusa today, they had linspire there for sale.08:15
bob2Kyral: public key cryptography relies on the key being in two bits: the public and private parts.  the public bit you can safely give to anyway, private bit has to stay absolutely secret.08:15
gm78darkheart, ah, ok, i didnt know that08:15
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Kyralah08:15
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Kyralhence the password encryption08:16
bob2Kyral: they're linked by a mathematical thing that means you can ecnrypt something with one half that can only be decrypted by the other half08:16
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engieI'm trying to run banshee. It's a mono app, and complains that it can't load the System, System.Data, System.ComponentModel.EventHandlerList and System.Data.IDbConnection Assemblys... This strikes me strange - how do I check mono is installed OK?08:16
Versedfriggin $50, linspire is giving the same package away for download right now.08:16
bob2Kyral: right, the private key is encrypted with a normal symmetric thing to help keep it secret08:16
darkheartreiki_work Oh, but if you want to theme gnome, you gotta look for gnome themes =)08:16
keeneI'm just about to try the linspire build, since I still can't find it in the repositories08:16
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bob2Kyral: gpg works the same way; people encrypt stuff to you using your public key, and no one without your private key can decrypt it08:16
Kyralso people need the public key to ssh to me?08:16
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darkheartkeene Did you examine the link that ubotu sent you?08:17
sushubhwhich gaim version to install on ubuntu?08:17
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engieIs mono in breezy broken at the mo?08:17
mindmedicengie, nope it works08:17
bob2engie: if it is, file a bug08:17
bob2engie: but it seems to work here08:17
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engiebob2: On a mission, filing away...08:18
ubuntulnxbob2, anything needs adjusting at kernel level?08:18
Kyralwhat does this mean in terms of ssh?08:18
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mindmedicengie, it is the 1.1.8.3 version08:18
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bob2ubuntulnx: for what?08:18
gm78bob2, you are always here. do you work for canonical (just curious)?08:18
inthenowjamey3: did you get anywhere?08:18
bob2Kyral: it means you can generate a keypair and put th public bit on the remote machine, so yo ucan ssh without a password08:18
ubuntulnxbob2, for reading cpu temperature from thermal_zone?08:18
bob2gm78: no, I'm just dumb and waste time here08:18
dazjorzhow to list all folders in a directory that start with .08:18
bob2which I need to stop doing08:18
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dazjorznot the contents, just the dir itself08:18
bob2dazjorz: ls -da .*08:19
keenedarkheart, yeah I did08:19
gm78bob2, lol08:19
Kyralah08:19
bob2I used to work for canonical08:19
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Kyralso anyone with the Public key can ssh to me?08:19
gm78bob2, how come you left (again, just curious)?08:19
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Kyralwell, assuming they have an account08:19
darkheartkeene Well add the backports repository and install nvu with apt-get08:19
mcphailbob2: did you get sacked for spending too much time on IRC?08:19
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gm78mcphail, lol] 08:19
bob2gm78: time to get a "real job" ;)08:20
mcphail;p08:20
bob2mcphail: haha08:20
inthenowI have onboard audio and an extra sound card in my system. But on the sound card is working.. is the nforce2 onboard audio supposed to work as well?08:20
gm78bob2, im curious....does canonical have any customers yet...or is mark shuttleworth still doing ubuntu just for the benefit of the community? a lot of people have asked that elsewhere08:21
bob2gm78: it has customers08:21
linuksoHi! I am trying to install hoary on a dual P3, but the smp kernel wont load, it is complaining about device nodes and initrd.08:21
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bob2but I don't know what information is public and what is not, so I can't say any more than that, sorry08:21
xSpecialistxwho know dc_gui???08:21
gm78bob2, oh, thats alright, i wasnt asking for specifics :)08:21
keeneHow stable is the backports version? It's not the latest release.08:22
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gigaclonI can't login to secure sites with firefox08:22
keenebtw, that means I found it, darkheart, thanks :)08:22
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gm78bob2, they should invest in some remote management tools to compete with zenworks and red hat network....give novell and red hat a run for their money08:22
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darkheartkeene Np..If you want a newer version, I'm sure you can find a .deb package somewhere. But I recommend trying the ubuntu package to see how you like it first.08:23
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bob2gm78: apt!08:23
uihow do i change de foot of gnome menu?08:23
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kebabeni was update my system when my computer turn of, when it restart it was only memtest in grub, i am now in an live cd so i hade add windows xp but i cant add ubuntu because there is no initrd and kernel in /boot/08:24
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kebabenhow can i do?08:24
BiSK-8sry guys08:24
gm78bob2, apt doesnt have remote monitoring tools and such that are included in zenworks and rhn though. I'm talking about a tool to monitor and admin like thousands of desktops08:24
BiSK-8but i was out08:24
BiSK-8can u repete plz08:24
BiSK-8?08:24
BiSK-8how can i see what hardware installed 2 my computer via ubuntu? i would like 2 know the motherboard brand and model and my processor model....is that possibile?08:24
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bob2BiSK-8: unlikely08:25
BiSK-8and what abt the processor?08:26
Necron69BiSK-8: /proc/cpuinfo will tell you part of that.08:26
mindmedicBiSK-8, and your motherboard type should show up on booting, or in the bios setup08:26
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KyralSo this is gonna be fun. As soon as Seveas gets his repo back up, I'm gonna aptInstall the FreeNX package, then download the FreeNX client for Windows ('cause the Build Maintainer for our Linux Lab hasn't installed the client yet) and try it :D08:27
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kebabennoone know how i can do?08:27
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linuksoproblems solved!!! get linux-686-smp instead of linux-image-686-smp08:28
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Cryptidhow do i get ml donkey i tried "sudo apt-get install mldonkey" but it dosent seem to work08:30
uihow do i change de foot of gnome menu?08:30
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darkheartCryptid Did you add more repositories?08:31
BiSK-8mindmedic, necron69, ok.... i see............see i wanna put a new graphix card and a new ramdisk.... for the graphix card i would like a ati raedon x800 but i dunno if it'll work with my motherboard...and i dont know what ramdisk 2 get08:31
Cryptiddarkhear, yes the multiverse thing rite i did add it08:31
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darkheartCryptid What's the error then?08:31
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BiSK-8what do u think i should do?08:32
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Cryptidno i tried installing it from synaptec but after installtion i cant find the software i dunno where to find it i tried running mldonkey in terminal but even that didnt work08:33
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KyralCan FreeNX forward sound?08:33
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darkheartCryptid What error does it give you?08:33
bob2X doesn't do sound08:33
Cryptiddarkheart, when i tried sudo apt-get install mldonkey it says package not found what do i do?08:34
Kyralbah08:34
Cryptiddarkheart, no i tried installing it from synaptec but after installtion i cant find the software i dunno where to find it i tried running mldonkey in terminal but even that didnt work08:34
Necron69BiSK-8: I don't much about ramdisks, but assuming the video card and motherboard support the same level AGP interface, I don't know why you'd have a problem with it.08:34
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BiSK-8well08:34
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BiSK-8my mb is 3 years old08:34
=== sportman has it running but no audio or graphics accel
bob2presuably ram disks use IDE08:34
bob2also, it sounds like you just have too much moneyt08:35
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sportmanthere is audio in ubuntu, but not for cedega08:35
darkheartCryptid Okay..what exactly is going on? If it says package not found when you tried to install it, why would you think it was installed?08:35
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ubuntulnxbob2, for reading cpu temperature from thermal_zone, do i need to change settings in the kernel i get from ubuntu?08:35
Necron69BiSK-8: You need to get the specs on the board.   Manual or manufacturer's website.08:35
chicken-manHi every one08:35
KyralAnyway it would be faster and more secure08:35
darkheartCryptid And if it was installed, but when you run 'mldonkey' on the command line and it doesn't work, then it produces an error.08:35
bob2ubuntulnx: I doubt that's the problem08:35
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dwerfhow do i install cedega (or whatever) from the shell?08:35
sportmanrtfm08:35
sportmanits easy to install08:35
Kyral!lart sportman08:36
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sportmango to the cedega howto on the cedega website08:36
dwerfof course08:36
BiSK-8necron69....ok08:36
BiSK-8thanks08:36
ubuntulnxbob2, ok, 1st stop bios. thx!08:36
sportmandownload the .deb of point2play08:36
Cryptiddarkheart, in terminal it says command not found but i am sure it got installed the time i tried to get it from synaptec08:36
sportmanand do dpkg -i cedegapoint2play.deb08:36
sportmanor what ever it is08:36
topyliooh! ubotu now has a BFG9000! pr33r ubotu's skillz!08:36
darkheartCryptid Well, open synaptic and search for mldonkey and tell me for sure if it's installed or not.08:37
sportmanbut im having trouble with audio in cedega08:37
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sportmanits wierd, i got audio in every other program08:37
Cryptidok08:37
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mcphailsportman: ask ubotu about sound. It might help.08:38
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Cryptiddarkheart, hehe its not installed u were rite now it shows mldonkey server and mldonket-gui which 1 do i install08:38
Krnekihay08:38
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Rockett18!sound08:38
ubotusound is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/08:38
Krnekiguys where is in ubuntu startup manager08:38
dwerfsportman > ok08:38
Krnekithat i can add programs to startup08:38
AnswerQuestion: I need some help with GREP SED AWK anybody an expert? :)08:39
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darkheartCryptid You want both. mldonkey-server is the backend, mldonkey-gui is the GUI interface to manage it.08:39
bob2Krneki: what would you want to add?08:39
bob2Answer: it's way easier if you just ask your question08:39
p0windahanswer: just ask08:39
gigacloncan I safely remove firefox without messing up the system?08:39
bob2gigaclon: it's easier not to08:39
Krnekii want add my web server, ipv6.sh (settings for tunnel) and firewall08:39
bob2Krneki: your webserver is already running08:40
Cryptiddarkheart, thanx for all ur help now i will install it and if i have ne problem i will let u know. do u use mldonkey?and if u do, do u like it?08:40
sportmanlol08:40
Krnekino it is not08:40
gigaclonI want to downgrade because firefox is not letting me do secure logins08:40
bob2Krneki: tunnels settings can be done in better ways08:40
sportmanthat ubuntu sound thing is not helping08:40
sportmanbut w.e.08:40
bob2Krneki: every web serever in ubuntu runs automatically08:40
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bob2Krneki: as for firewall, /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian08:40
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bob2unless you did something silly like compiling apache08:40
Cryptiddarkherat, are the server and gui the only 2 files i need or are there ne more files08:40
darkheartCryptid Np, I am actually leaving in a few minutes =\ but no, I don't use mldonkey. I tried it and it seemed really nice, but it didn't work as it was and I didn't feel like trying to make it work at the time.08:41
Krnekiso is there any startup thing in ubuntu or not08:41
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darkheartCryptid I use aMule08:41
KanRiNiNHey, I just ran the ATI installer.  Now to complete it, I just copy the xorg.conf to my /etc/x11 directory, right?  but I don't have permission.  what do I do??08:41
bob2Krneki: of course, update-rc.d08:41
reiki_workbob2: what may be confusing is that Ubuntu's default web ends up in /var/www/apach2 instead of simply being in /var/www08:41
darkheartCryptid Only the server and the gui should suffice, I believe.08:41
mcrandellodoes anyone know what package I would find intltoolize in?08:41
bob2Krneki: but you don't need it in practice08:41
mcrandelloautogen.sh is not working without it08:41
bob2mcrandello: packages.ubuntu.com08:41
AnswerQuestion: I want to search through a text file for lines that begin with Battery, and also have the previous line (which begins with Fri).  grep -e ^Fri -e ^Battery almost works but there are extraneous ^Fri lines08:41
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darkheartCryptid But read the package descriptions as well, maybe you'll want something else.08:41
bob2KanRiNiN: it's best to ignore it entirely and follow wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:41
Krnekicanyou tell me where can i find it08:42
mcphailKrneki: yes. There are a couple of ways to start things up at boot08:42
Krnekiso tell me some ways08:42
bob2Krneki: it's installed by default08:42
reiki_workbob2: clarifying... /var/www is the ROOT web, but the apache default site ends up in /var/www/apache208:42
AnswerQuestion: Anybody got madwifi debian package?08:42
Cryptiddarkherat, i installed aMule all went well but it didnt startup when i clicked on it the same happens with XMMS and BMP my sys is all screwed up08:42
Krnekiwhich command would that be08:42
bob2reiki_work: ah08:42
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bob2Answer: no, there's no point, the ubuntu kernels include the madwifi drivers08:42
Answerbob2: reeeally... are there config files or anything?08:43
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Answerbob2: documentation proving that the ubuntu kernel includes madwifie? :)08:43
bob2Answer: ...08:43
bob2no, I'm lying to you08:43
Krnekiso tell tell08:43
Krneki:D08:43
darkheartCryptid I have to go in a couple min, but open a console and type 'xmms' and tell me what it says08:43
bob2Krneki: update-rc.d08:43
Answerbob2: Where can I find more information on madwifi drivers incorporated with the ubuntu kernel please?08:43
dwerfthis is weird: my desktop is like half-locked - with context menu's missing and i can't right-click taskbars08:43
bob2Krneki: but none of those 3 problems require adding init scripts08:44
bob2Answer: I don't understand what you want to know08:44
p0windahdwerf: you just upgraded to breezy ?08:44
KanRiNiNthanks bob2, what's the command to restart gnome?  ctrl alt esc?08:44
bob2Answer: the drivers come installed by default08:44
dwerfyes i think i did08:44
mcrandellobob2,: thx08:44
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dwerfor would i know for usre08:44
p0windahdwerf: reboot and enjoy new kernel goodness08:44
Answerbob2: A webpage I can show my boss that proves such08:44
bob2Answer: packages.ubuntu.com if for some silly reason you think I'm lying08:44
dwerfthanx08:44
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Cryptiddarkheart, its ok i dont want to keep u waiting here to answer my stupid question but ne way it says some Xlib not supported08:44
Krnekioh come on is so hard to tell08:44
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bob2Krneki: update-rc.d08:44
bob2Krneki: I'm not sure what the point of ignoring my answer is08:45
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bob2you're wasting your time more than mine08:45
boxerboyanyone else having problems updating breezy?08:45
darkheartCryptid Hmm...sounds like you are missing some package which is weird...I'm sorry I have to leave, but ask around, I'm sure you will find help and good luck.08:45
Krnekii can't run xampp other way08:45
p0windahboxerboy: reboot after it upgrades08:45
Answerbob2: Searching packages.ubuntu.com returns no results for madwifi08:45
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Krnekii have it for my server php apache mysql08:45
boxerboyi cant get the upgrades08:45
bob2Answer: indeed, you'd have to actually search for the correct module names08:45
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p0windahwhat do you mean, "can't get" ?08:46
bob2Krneki: what on earth is "xampp"?08:46
Cryptiddarkheart, thanx for all ur help and yes i will ask some 1 else Bye. and have a nice time08:46
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Answerbob2: What are the correct module names for madwifi ?08:46
boxerboyits saying couldnt get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock- open08:46
mcphailKrneki: why install XAMPP when the ubuntu packages are fine?08:46
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Krnekiit is program which install all apache php and mysql in one simple install08:46
p0windahboxerboy: is synaptic open, apt-get XXX running in a terminal somewhere ?08:46
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Krneki:D08:46
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boxerboyunable to lock download directory08:46
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p0windahboxerboy: if you are sure you dont have a process doing updates somewhere, you can just manually delete the lockfile08:47
mcphailKrneki: so is apt...08:47
bob2Krneki: that's silly, sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server08:47
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boxerboysynaptic is only thing open08:47
reiki_workKrneki: don't do that in Ubuntu. Install apache2, install mysql, install php08:47
Answerbob2: I am showing madwifi for 386 as a linux-restricted-module which means it is not included by default?08:47
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bob2Answer: incorrect08:47
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mititelu`hello, how can i make xmms work08:48
Krnekiyeah when i try nothing work08:48
reiki_workKrneki: or what bob2 said .... that all-in-one thing you're talking about is not a good idea08:48
sportmanthey said that esound server on ubunut was why it didnt work08:48
sedatc+e sedatc08:48
mititelu`xmms blocks when i hit play08:48
Krnekiso i do this and work perfect08:48
dwerfso what's good about breezy?08:48
bob2Krneki: "nothing work" is not a useful description of a problem08:48
mcrandellodoes anyone know what the "autoconf macro directory" refers to and why is automake too stupid to copy the files there itself?08:48
Krnekionly that i have to start it every reboot08:48
bob2mcrandello: what are you compiling08:48
sedatcservices sets mode +e sedatc08:48
mcrandelloxqf08:48
sedatchi all08:48
mititelu`xmms blocks when i hit play, on any tune, there is no force quit, nothing, it just freezes until i shut down08:48
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boxerboyill brb im gonna refreash this see if i cant get in it thwn08:48
mititelu`somebody help me pls08:48
Krnekiand now i need to know how make it run itself08:48
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bob2mititelu`: tell it to use esound for the output plugin08:48
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bob2Krneki: I already told you 4 times, update-rc.d08:48
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Cryptidmititelu, even i got the same problem08:49
p0windahsportman: the paid transgaming support is worse08:49
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bob2Krneki: also, you're wasting your time, you could have installed the packages and had it done by now08:49
sedatcI have a problem about connecting internet from different lans08:49
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sedatcI can connect internet from my home08:49
mititelu`thanks i'll try08:49
Cryptidmititelu`, even i got the same problem08:49
bob2Cryptid: then follow the same solution08:49
p0windahdwerf: nice new gnome stuff08:49
mititelu`now i have to reinstall ;-)08:49
juerryhow can i download another version of the kernel?08:49
Cryptidbob2, ok08:49
p0windahdwerf: and ooo08:49
bob2mititelu`: of course not08:49
mcrandellois there some directory buried under /usr or is it someplace in the source tree I have to copy these things? I already tried the same dir as autogen.sh and it still didn't find them :(08:49
sedatcbut I cant connect from my job08:49
bob2juerry: why?08:49
dwerflike what?08:49
mcphailKrneki: how often do you update the packages installed by XAMPP? Have you patched for the latest apache exploits? apt-get does this for you...08:49
bob2mcrandello: what are you compiling?08:49
sedatcwhy cant08:50
mcrandellobob2, xqf08:50
Krnekiam08:50
p0windahdwerf: I think there is a changelog .. :)08:50
Krnekii do XAMPP yesterday08:50
mcrandellothere's a package but it's a bit out of date08:50
Cryptidbob2, but what is the solution08:50
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Krnekino afraid about bugs08:50
Krneki:D08:50
dwerfwhere can i find it?08:50
bob2Krneki: and look, a day later you're still stuck on it08:50
bob2mcrandello: xqf - X-based Quake Server Browser08:50
bob2mcrandello: (it's already in ubuntu)08:50
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Krnekiit works good08:50
p0windahI'm sure there is a link on the main ubuntu.com site08:50
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bob2Cryptid: 04:48:53           bob2 | mititelu`: tell it to use esound for the output plugin08:50
mcrandellobob2, I need the nweer version08:50
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bob2Krneki: except it doesn't start, how useful08:50
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Krnekii can't help i don't know how to configure mysql and php that will work phpmyadmin and so on08:51
bob2mcrandello: then you need to read the configure.in or .ac to find the config/ dir08:51
p0windahread the top news article on right hand side of ubuntu.com site dwerf08:51
benjam1nhow do i add a top-level menu under the gnome applications menu?08:51
bob2Krneki: you don't need to configure anytyhing if you use the ubuntu packages08:51
mcrandellobob2, that would = the autoconf macro dir?08:51
Krnekibob2: so can you please tell me how to add thos thing08:51
bob2mcrandello: I'd think so08:51
bob2Krneki: holy god08:51
bob2Krneki: update-rc.d08:51
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Answer!holy god08:52
ubotuWish i knew, Answer08:52
Answerhhaahah08:52
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oracelcan I install the breezy preview and seamlessly upgrade to the full release later?08:52
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oracelor would I have to do a reinstall=08:52
oracel?08:52
bob2oracel: if you follow the instructions, yes08:52
p0windahno need to reinstall08:52
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benjam1nis there a textfile or something somewhere that i can edit to change the apps under applications, i want to add a category for development tools08:52
Answeroracel: where there is a will, there is a way08:52
p0windahoracel: note that the breezy preview is not entirely stable08:52
bob2p0windah: why?08:52
Krnekiwhere is update-rc.d located08:53
bob2benjam1n: /msg ubotu smeg08:53
bob2Krneki: jesus dude08:53
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juerrybob2: i have 1.25GB of ram, but the system is working with 85008:53
bob2Krneki: it's in your PATH08:53
p0windahif it were stable, it would be named preview I'm guessing08:53
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bob2juerry: what cpu?08:53
p0windahand they wouldnt be saking for community feedback on problems ?08:53
Krnekiok08:53
p0windahasking, too08:53
Krnekifounded08:53
KrnekiD:08:53
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Krneki:D08:53
juerrybob2: p408:53
mcrandellobob2, okay I didn't see anything that looked obvious I'm gonna copy *.m4 into every damn dir in the source tree that should get sometwhere right?08:53
oracelp0windah, I haven't been running anything even remotely close to stable the last few days; breezy will probably feel like the rocky mountains to me now :)08:53
bob2juerry: sudo aptitude install linux-68608:53
p0windahoracel: just so you know :)08:54
bob2mcrandello: that seems suboptimal08:54
mcrandellobob2, I know :(08:54
p0windahoracel: but you should be fine, just apt-get dist-upgrade and you're good :)08:54
oracel01101010 downloading! 0101000108:54
p0windahI smile too much08:54
mcrandellobob2, I just can't beleive that something with the word "auto" in it could be so damn frustrating compared the the "manual" method (./configure;make;make installl)08:55
juerrybob2: thank you very much08:55
bob2mcrandello: do you know what autogen.sh is?08:56
dwerfis it possible to upgrade to breezy, or is it a full install?08:56
bob2Krneki: so, a) you're wasting yours and our time, b) don't /msg me08:56
bob2dwerf: of course08:56
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mcrandelloI'm under the impression it automatically creates config files08:56
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dwerfme so silly08:56
Answer /msg bob2 for a good time08:56
mcrandellofor the lucky people, that is08:56
p0windahdwerf: you're in for a treat08:56
bob2Krneki: if you want to go and make it hard for yourself by using "LAMPP" or whatever, read /usr/share/doc/sysvrc/08:56
dwerfcan i do it from the shell?08:56
sportmanhey should gma900 work with hardware accell08:57
sportmanright away?08:57
p0windahsure can08:57
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sportmani get this error direct rendering: No08:57
bob2Krneki: hint: put init scripts in /etc/init.d/ and install them into runlevels with update-rc.d08:57
sportmanOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect08:57
bob2mcrandello: no08:57
Krnekibob2 i can do it your way08:57
Krnekiif you will help me08:57
bob2mcrandello: it generates the ./configure script, and the ./configure script generates the makefiles08:57
bob2Krneki: remove all this shit08:57
dwerfhow?08:57
Krnekiok08:57
Krnekigo private08:57
Krnekitalk08:57
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mcrandellobob2, that doesn't stop me from hating it08:57
bob2Krneki: then sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server08:57
dwerfapt-get breezy? ;-)08:57
p0windahdwerf: theres probably a page somewhere08:58
bob2Krneki: no, I'm not talking to you in private08:58
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bob2dwerf: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes08:58
bob2dwerf: do not upgrade if you care about binary-only drivers08:58
p0windahdwerf: but in a nutshell, change hoary in /etc/apt/sources.list to breezy, then apt-get update; apt-get distupgrade08:58
KyralIs there any other way to get FreeNX other than through Seveas repo?08:58
Answer!tell dwerf about breezy08:58
KanRiNiNbob2, thanks much for the binary link.  they're working fine now.  I have an error message now when gnome loads up though.   I took a screenshot, can you look at it and give me your thoughts?08:58
Krnekiok08:58
p0windahapt-get dist-upgrade, rather08:58
Krnekiso what do i do08:58
bob2Krneki: so, stop talking and start reading08:58
Krnekiok08:58
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bob2Krneki: I've given you complete solutions to both options08:58
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Cryptidwhat to i press to see the running process list like ctrl+alt+Del in windows what is it in ubuntu08:59
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bob2KanRiNiN: best to include urels in questions like that08:59
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gigaclonbob2, can you help me with my firefox problem08:59
Krnekiok so what do i do08:59
mcphailCryptid: top08:59
KanRiNiNerror activating xkb configuration08:59
bob2Krneki: so, stop talking08:59
venzenCrypt: type: ps aux08:59
bob2Krneki: and then read again what I said08:59
meuserj|workCryptid, or run gnome-system-monitor08:59
Krnekii need full server apache php mysql and phpmyadmin08:59
bob2Krneki: I've told you 5 times how to unbreak your mess, and twice how to do it properly08:59
bob2Krneki: again, shut up08:59
bob2Krneki: and read what I've said09:00
Krnekiwhere what you say09:00
Answerbob2: just ignore him... there's no need to be rude09:00
bob2Krneki: scroll up09:00
Krnekii remove xampp09:00
p0windahwe all have a shitlist, use it09:00
bob2there is when people insist on wasting my time and being rude to me09:00
bob2and everyone else's09:00
Answeryou are wasting your own time by responding to him09:00
Krnekii lost myself in this txrt09:00
bob2indeed09:00
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bob2Krneki: /lastlog bob2, and read09:01
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cyphaseis there any way to make linux play .mov sound?09:01
p0windahKrneki: it might be easier if you did a little searching on the ubuntu community forums09:01
bob2I have an odd desire to reform people who annoy me09:01
bob2the forums will give you even worse advice09:01
bob2Krneki: reboot09:01
bob2Krneki: 04:57:51           bob2 | Krneki: then sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server09:01
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Answerbob2: don't paste in here! hehehe09:01
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p0windahheh09:01
mcrandellobob2 I hope I'm not annoying you too much09:01
p0windahmcrandello: you are09:02
mcrandelloI thought so :(09:02
p0windahhell, he hates irc09:02
gigaclonanyone else have problems with https logins in firefox09:02
Krnekii still don't see anywhere any packages (which one has to be installed)09:02
Answermcrandello:  you are ok.  please state your question in one line :)09:02
p0windahgigaclon: nope09:02
bob2Krneki: holy god09:02
bob205:01:40           bob2 | Krneki: 04:57:51           bob2 | Krneki: then sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server09:02
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bob2Krneki: again, be quiet and read09:02
AnswerKrneki: Please ask your system administrator.  You do not have sufficient priviledges to install the packages09:02
dwerfdownloading breezy right now - i know it's beta, but it's probably ten times more stable than any new release of windows09:02
bob2Krneki: that command installs those packages09:02
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gigaclonany reason why I would be unable to use secure logins in firefox09:03
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Krnekiwhich command09:03
Krneki:(09:03
bob2Krneki: holy god09:03
bob2sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server09:03
venzengiga: you have a firewall?09:03
gigaclonno09:03
Answergigaclon: give the url you want to login to09:03
kevogodgigaclon, Does it pop up a dialog box?09:03
gigaclonno09:03
gigaclonits https sites09:03
gigaclonlike paypal09:03
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venzengiga: url?09:03
gigaclonwww.paypal.com09:03
mcrandelloAnswer, I am looking for the directory in which to copy a whole bunch of m4 files for autogen.sh. What variable would I look after in configure.in?09:03
venzengiga: in general?09:04
mcrandellocrap that was two lines09:04
gigaclonyeah09:04
bob2mcrandello: why are you running that at all?09:04
KanRiNiNbob I found the problem.  my xorg.conf file is completely empty.  but yet the driver loaded.  any ideas?  can I generate a new one?09:04
gigaclonanything that is https09:04
Krnekiis that all09:04
Krneki:D09:04
bob2mcrandello: just get the tarball09:04
bob2KanRiNiN: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:04
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KyralSeveas, should I just wait until tomarrow EST to try the server?09:04
Answermcrandello: please state your problem and what you hope to accomplish.  there may be alternatives09:04
Gavrilaguys I don't understand... breezy just updated when I load X with fglrx on my laptop the screen is "blurry"09:04
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Gavrilaif I load it with ati driver instead it is fine09:05
KyralYou have to reinstall it09:05
karma_Hello! I need advice on software: i need prog that acts like "tail -f", but colourful and can work with multiple files simultaneously09:05
GavrilaKyral, to reinstall what?09:05
Krnekiam how do install phpmyadmin?09:05
KyralaptInstall the fglrx_config package09:05
p0windahbob2: I feel your frustration09:05
Kyraland run it09:05
mcrandelloI;m trying to compile the cvs of xqf to get support for some stuff that was just added. I'll get the tgz here in a sec and see if it has it09:05
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gigaclonsudo apt-get install phpmyadmin09:05
p0windahKrneki: type /msg p0windah please, o lord help me09:06
ompaulGavrila, at the end of the day, that is because ati have not open sourced their card09:06
Krnekiam no09:06
p0windahI beg of you, let me help you out and spare the channel from your repetition09:06
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GavrilaKyral,  but this same configuration worked well until yesterday with fglrx on breezy09:06
sedatchi all09:06
AnswerKrneki: Please ask your system administrator.  You do not have sufficient priviledges to install the packages.09:06
KyralGavrila, I've been going through the same thing with the NVidia driver09:06
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Gavrilaompaul, he I know... but this is m laptop and I can't change it...09:06
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transgresshey what package is the fixed font in?09:07
GavrilaKyral, and you did rewrite a new xorg.conf to solve it?09:07
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Gavrilaand did you*09:07
KyralNo, I recompiled the NVidia driver :P09:07
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sedatcI want to recover grub after installing windows how can I find which partition my linux is installed09:07
ompaulGavrila, well it seems to me that you have been asking that question since around 8am my time this morning09:07
transgresssedatc: fdisk09:08
sedatcis there a way that I can see partition table from windows09:08
Gavrilaompaul, "since" is wrong09:08
ompaulGavrila, okay you asked then you ask now :)09:08
GavrilaI asked it _at_ that time and now after a new upgrade09:08
Answersedatc: you need to set the linux partition to active and bootable, probably with fdisk like transgreess said09:08
ompaulGavrila, and after every upgrade it will be the same due to the ati card09:08
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sedatcfdisk is a windows command or linux09:08
Gavrilaompaul, I don't see the reason for it09:08
claudiahi!09:08
Answersedatc: fdisk is a dos command :)09:09
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GavrilaI mean tis is not my first updgrade and it always worked fine09:09
claudiaI have a lot of .ogg files here and my MP3 player cant play them09:09
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sedatcAnswer: I couldnt make it run in winxp09:09
GavrilaI still don't understand if it's aknown bug now or if it has to be investigated further09:09
claudiaI heard that .ogg files are music files like .mp3 but my MP3 player cannot play them09:09
venzenclaudia: which player?09:09
claudiais there a command line converter for ogg to mp3?09:09
claudiavenzen, one from Dell09:10
claudiaits also an usbstick09:10
Gavrila"ati" driver makes my windows scrolling a pain :(09:10
sedatcI have a bootable ubuntu but I lost grub09:10
venzenclaudia: then it can't!09:10
Answersedatc: boot into ubuntu and reinstall grub then09:10
claudialike, oggToEnc path_to_folder_with_oggs09:10
venzenclaudia: what does dell say?09:10
Answerclaudia: search in Synaptic for ogg and install the libraries and stuff09:10
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sedatcAnswer, but I cant boot into ubuntu because of windows09:10
venzenAnswer: claudia is talking abt a hw player09:10
GoClick!dvd09:11
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras09:11
ompaulGavrila, if you feel it is a bug - go for it, if wrong good, if right at least it has been reported09:11
claudiavenzen, does such a converter exist?09:11
mcphailclaudia: if you convert from ogg to mp3, the quality will be awful09:11
ompaulGavrila, and no doubt you will get a reply one way or the other09:11
sedatcAnswer, Since I installed windows after ubuntu I lost ubuntu and Grub09:11
claudiamcphail, i know09:11
claudiabut i have to do it09:11
ompaul!tell sedatc about restore09:11
sedatcAnswer, so I cant boot into ubuntu09:11
claudiathe sources are gone09:11
transgresshey can someone tell me... is the fixed font supposed to be in xfonts-base?09:12
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claudiaso I cant recreate mp3 files from them (besides i dunno how to do it)09:12
ompaul!tell sedatc about grub09:12
ompaulsedatc, that message from ubotu will help09:12
Answersedatc: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;%5bLN%5d;Q31334809:12
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umberleighcan anyone reccommend a kde based firewall gui and/or point me to some reviews?09:12
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luzbelitohi to all. when i insert a blank cd / dvd ubuntu opens a window CD/DVD CREATOR. how i deactivate it ????????09:13
Answerumberleigh: shorewall is a firewall09:13
sedatcompaul, I read the staff about rescue09:13
dazjorzheya09:13
claudiano ogg->mp3 converter exists? bad :(09:13
dazjorzI need this file: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.309:13
dazjorzwhere to get it ?09:13
mcphailclaudia: you need an ogg player that will output to stdout and an mp3 encoder which will read from stdin.09:13
Gavrilaompaul, ok I'm reporting09:13
venzenumber: shorewall is good, smoothwall is easier09:13
annexI have installed Ubuntu 5.04 on a partition to test it before switching.  So far I love it except Xorg performance seems rather poor.  Currently using Xfree86 on gentoo resizing of windows, scrolling in firefox etc. is much smoother than using Xorg on ubuntu. Using 'top', I've noticed Xorg uses about 20-30% more of my cpu than Xfree86 does when simply scrolling the same website in firefox, or resizing a gaim chat window.  Any ideas on how I can 09:13
ompaulGavrila, seems like the best thing to do09:13
Answersedatc: "How to Use the FDisk tool"  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255867/09:13
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claudiamcphail, and for over 30 ogg files?09:13
claudiathis is going to take ages!09:13
rchvhola09:14
umberleighAnswer, venzen: can you point me to any reviews?09:14
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bob2ubotu: redhat crap09:14
ubotubob2: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about09:14
Answerrchv: #ubuntu-espanol09:14
bob2dazjorz: then go to packages.debian.org and find it09:14
bob2you need a ridiculously old package for that09:14
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venzenumber: not really - just my opinion and experience...09:14
luzbelitohi to all. when i insert a blank cd / dvd ubuntu opens a window CD/DVD CREATOR. how i deactivate it ????????09:14
Answerumberleigh:  google "smoothwall reviews"09:14
bob2complain to your vendor for not updating it09:14
dazjorzbob2: huh ?09:14
bob2luzbelito: omg!!11109:14
Answerumberleigh: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/03/04/1552242&from=rss09:14
bob2luzbelito: system -> preferences -> removable drives09:15
venzenluz: exactlky09:15
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bob2dazjorz: whatever binary-only software you're trying to run is ridiculously old09:15
umberleighthanks guys09:15
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tux-roxclaudia, http://marginalhacks.com/bin/ogg2mp3. You have to do them one at a time most likely.09:15
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sorush20guys I can't remove nero with this command I keep getting.. sudo dpkg -are nero dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove nero which isn't installed, but it is installed.. when I type nero it will rum09:15
sorush20guys I can't remove nero with this command I keep getting.. sudo dpkg -are nero dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove nero which isn't installed, but it is installed.. when I type nero it will run09:15
luzbelitobob2, thanks!!!09:15
bob2sorush20: complain to the nero people; you gave them money, they owe you support09:15
venzencome again..09:15
transgressokay i still can't boot into x, i have all the packages i should, i've reconfigured xfonts-base or whatever and xserver-xorg... any more suggestions would be awesome.09:15
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Answersorush20:  sudo apt-get remove --purge nero09:16
bob2dazjorz: http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/base/libstdc++2.10-glibc2.209:16
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sedatcompaul, thank you very much ompaul09:16
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dazjorzbob2: Uplink, the game.09:16
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transgressi do have cookies and will hand them out for suggestions09:16
dazjorzbob2: Thanks a lot for the link09:16
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bob2dazjorz: it's old and broken and requires he above package09:16
ompaulsedatc, for what? all I did was give you a url :)09:16
mizeryIs there a package management system with Ubuntu?  How would one install a particular package, such as gaim?09:17
Answermizery: Synaptic09:17
bob2mizery: gaim is installed by default09:17
sedatcAnswer, I think I cant use fdisk in Xp anyway I find the answer09:17
Answermizery: gaim is installed by default09:17
bob2mizery: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto09:17
Kyralubotu tell mizery about apt09:17
sedatcompaul, that you very much your url :)09:17
ompaulsedatc, ahh okay :)09:17
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Rockett18!apt09:18
ubotuapt is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto09:18
jcmunozspanish spoken plis.....09:19
Kyral#ubuntu-es09:19
Answer!tell Rockett18 about tell09:19
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ompaul!tell jcmunoz about es09:19
transgress!tell me about fixed fonts bug and fixing it... for a cookie09:20
Rockett18heh09:20
transgressdarn09:20
gerarconehello, someone knows a simple beginner/guide about Linux online?09:20
transgresswas worth a try09:20
bob2transgress: have you asked on the ubuntu-user list?09:20
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gerarconei particular I should learn compiling c++ programs09:20
transgressumm no i haven't.  but as i'm not in x right now i don't wanna go browsing stuff in links.  i'll try that in a bit when i boot up the lappy.09:21
claudiaogg2mp3 does not work09:21
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transgressbut thanks for the suggestion.  i hadn't thought about doing that.09:21
claudia"Can't locate String/ShellQuote.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at ./ogg2mp3 line 42."09:21
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ompaulgerarcone, wiki.ubuntu.com can help and compiling stuff search for how to use g++09:21
transgressnow ima go get a shower i guess.  since nothing new has come to light.09:21
mendredgeracone: http://www.groovyweb.uklinux.net/?page_name=linux%20tutorials09:21
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gerarconeompaul & mendred: thanks!09:22
bob2transgress: it's a mailing list, you don't need a web broser09:22
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ompaulgerarcone, you can also look at debian tutorials they would be suitable in the main (warning pun near here)09:22
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boxerboyok i refreashed and the updates worked09:22
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mcrandellobob2, got the tarball now it says that the glib-config script install by glib could not be found09:23
boxerboydid the new guide surface the net yet?09:23
mcrandello*installed09:23
p0windahbob2: he didnt have universe in his repository09:23
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mcrandelloI'm not sure which package to go ahead and put on there09:23
ompaulboxerboy, look for ubuntu faq online09:23
boxerboyty09:23
bob2mcrandello: unsurprising09:24
ompaulgerarcone, , look for ubuntu faq online09:24
bob2mcrandello: packages.ubuntu.com09:24
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pippin-hi all09:24
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pippin-I'm here, I dunno which one I have to download exactly, http://www.movn.net/Salem_Sayar/Smo_AL_ArTh.ram09:24
pippin-ops09:24
pippin-wrong URL09:24
pippin-here http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/09:24
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ompaulpippin-, for what? - do you understand the difference between dev and release?09:25
linuksoHm, still got a major problem with my dual p3. It won't boot with an smp kernel. It complains about /dev/shm, initrd and missing device nodes...09:25
pippin-ompaul no09:25
pippin-ompaul actually I wanted to download ubuntu and born it into a CD, and use it to install it into my other computer.09:25
linuksoHas anyone here had a similar problem, I couldn't find anything in the forums...09:26
jasperanyone knows if a linksys wusb11 v4 works?09:26
pippin-and how many cds do I need pls? for example in fedora core4, I needed 4 cds09:26
ompaulpippin-, then I make the suggestion that you make that 5.0409:26
ompaulpippin-, 1 CD09:26
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jasperubuntu is 1 disk pippin-09:26
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pippin-thanks09:26
pippin-ok, 5.10 is latest version09:26
mcrandellobob2, thx for the guidance it looks like I'm going to be looking up a lot of packages trying to get this thing build09:26
jasper5.4.09:26
pippin-why you recommend me to use an older version?09:26
venzenlinukso: which version of ubuntu?09:26
linuksovenzen: hoary09:26
oracelwhat kernel does kubuntu breezy ship with?09:26
Kyralpippin-, because Breezy is unstable ATM09:26
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jasperI suggest using 5.4, since Breezy is unstable.09:26
jasperLike he says.09:27
linuksovenzen: same problem on both the 2.6.10 and 2.6.11 kernel09:27
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ompaulpippin-, it is release, the other is development - while  it is nearly ready it is not and a lot of updates will take place over the next month09:27
pippin-I don't know what is brezy09:27
KyralBreezy = Ubuntu 5.1009:27
pippin-ok, give me the url where I can download 5.409:27
jasperanyone knows if a linksys wusb11 v4 works?09:27
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ompaulpippin-, hoary hedgehog = 5.0409:27
pippin-you guys are awesome09:27
jasperwww.ubuntu.com09:27
Kyral5.0409:27
jasperdude09:27
jasper-r e a d-09:27
venzenlinukso: you have kernel image AND headers installed?09:27
jasperI would suggest that ;)09:28
Kyraljasper, cut the attitude09:28
pippin-okay09:28
gerarconeompaul: sorry, but i can't find anything about compiling whit g++ on the wiki, can you help me?09:28
pippin-I'm there, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/09:28
linuksovenzen: yes, but why would I need the headers just to boot?09:28
pippin-now which file I have to download please?09:28
jasperKyral, not to get anything wrong, but hey09:28
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ali4728is there any one running LAMP on ubuntu?  I have a problem connecting to Mysql from remoot comp.09:28
gerarconeompaul: ok, i've just find that!09:28
venzenlinukso: what hardware?09:28
jasperali4728,  what then?09:29
linuksoali4728: are you using portmap, if so, edit /etc/hosts.allow09:29
ompaulgerarcone, no, compiling is for google - compiling is not specific to ubuntu and therefore g++ which is the program you are looking for whould be searched for with faq howto program and stuff09:29
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linuksovenzen: dual pentium III, don't remember which motherboard09:29
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ompaulpippin-, what kind of machine have you got?>09:29
mcphailgerarcone: man gcc09:29
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pippin-ompaul motherboard is intel. 280009:29
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gerarconeompaul: my problem in effect is how to use g++09:29
claudiaok i corrected my stuff with cpan09:30
gerarconeompaul: i hope the manual will help me09:30
jasperhehe09:30
ompaulgerarcone, correct, and that is for #C++09:30
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claudiaand someone told me to use    for f in `find . -name '*.ogg'`; do ogg2mp3 "$f" `basename "$f" .ogg`.mp3; done09:30
ompaulpippin-, so you want the i386 install and work from there09:30
venzenlinukso: need more info - try reinstalling?09:30
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jasperI have problems with my USB keyboard receiver on a Athlon 64 pc. the mouse clicks random things, but the receiver on a fedora machine works09:30
claudiato convert all oggs in the directory and its subdirs to mp309:30
pippin-ompaul there is a lot of i38609:30
jaspermicrocrap receiver09:30
gerarconeompaul: my teacher at university told me that compiling with linux should very simple09:30
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gerarconeompaul: i'm using windows and dev-cpp09:31
claudiabut the resulting mp3s are all in the same directory! how can I make sure that the mp3s are in the same folder as the original ogg?09:31
Yapserhi09:31
jasperhi09:31
ali4728linukso,  Error : 2003 Cant connect to MySQL server on "xx.xx.xx.xx" (115)09:31
venzengerar: it is - man gcc09:31
linuksovenzen: tried that, but the single cpu kernel boots, so I think it might be a problem with the hardware, cause the pc I am chatting from is identical, and it works09:31
Yapsernot the firewall that's blocking the port?09:31
linuksoali4728: check the log on the server.09:31
venzenali: what user permissions do you have on remote MySQL09:32
linuksoali4728: you need a user that has access to the mysql server for remote hosts09:32
gerarconevenzen: yes man gpp09:32
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Yapseranyway, anyone knows if wusb11 is supported?09:33
Yapserv409:33
mcphailgerarcone: g++ -o myprogram file1.cpp file2.cpp etc09:33
gerarconemcphail: "-o" is for?09:33
erUSULclaudia: you run the comand in the directory where the ogg files reside?09:34
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gerarconemcphail: what means "-o"09:34
cheesie!ndiswrapper09:34
ubotuI guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper09:34
claudiayes I have a "tunes" folder09:34
mcphailgerarcone: output an executable called myprogram09:34
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claudiaand there i call this command09:34
linuksovenzen: do you know if the system will use only one cpu when using a regular kernel?09:34
jaspergenerally it does09:34
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p0windahlinukso: in the mysql client type \r mysql then select * from user where user = 'you_user_name';09:35
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p0windahthen have a look at whatever privileges are assigned to such user09:35
wastrelwhat's a good bittorrent client?09:35
erUSULclaudia: and where end up the mp3 files?09:35
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linuksowastrel: bittorrent :D09:35
mcphailwastrel: azureus09:35
claudiain "tunes"09:35
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gerarconemcphail: but i presume all these informations will be in man gcc09:35
mdkewho knows where I can find the address bar in nautilus in Breezy?09:35
claudiabut if one ogg is in tunes/acdc, I want the mp3 to be in tunes/acdc too09:36
claudiaand not in tunes09:36
KanRiNiNhey, after some forum searching, it looks like celestia has a problem with my gcc 4.0.  if I apt get gcc 3.4 and uninstall 4.0, will I be killing any other programs??09:36
mcphailgerarcone: yes, but it is a fairly large man page!09:36
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claudiafor f in `find . -name '*.ogg'`; do ogg2mp3 "$f" `dirname $f`/`basename "$f" .ogg`.mp309:36
claudiais this correct?09:36
claudiawould this do?09:36
wastrelmcphail, is there a packge for that?09:36
martiihi09:36
wastrelmcphail, i tried to install it but no love09:36
martiiok then09:36
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martiiafter update of x in 5.04 i lost my dualhead setup09:36
mcphailwastrel: no. download from sourceforge.net after installing java09:36
martiiboth screens are the same09:36
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martiiand were separated before09:37
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KanRiNiNanybody know if I'll screw myself over by uninstalling gcc 4.0 and installing 3.4?09:37
transgressKanRiNiN: install both09:37
gerarconemcphail: i understand... o_O09:37
wastrelmcphail, is there a package for the sun java sdk?09:37
transgressKanRiNiN: aptitude install gcc-3.409:37
mcphail!java09:38
ubotusomebody said java was to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java09:38
wastrelthx09:38
transgressKanRiNiN: what are you trying to build09:38
cheesie!ubotu09:38
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/09:38
transgress?09:38
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mdkewho knows where I can find the address bar in nautilus in Breezy?09:38
KanRiNiNright, but it looks like celestia by default chooses gcc 4.0.  because I have 3.3 installed to.  how do I tell it to build just from 3.3?09:38
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cheesie!add09:38
uboturumour has it, add is To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets09:38
claudiahello?09:38
erUSULclaudia: just try ;) i do not know :(09:38
gerarconemcphail: maybe i can find something searching with a google-search09:38
pippin-hmmmmm09:38
cheesieubotu hee09:38
ubotucheesie: I haven't a clue09:38
transgressKanRiNiN: when you do either make or ./configure add CC=gcc-3.409:38
cheesieubotu add09:38
cyphaseis there any way to make linux play .mov sound?09:39
transgressKanRiNiN: so if it has a configure file run "./configure CC=gcc-3.4"09:39
chavomdke, hit CTRL-L09:39
mcphailgerarcone: learning gcc is not a trivial task, but the above command will get you through most "Hello World" situations09:39
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gerarconemcphail: received09:39
KanRiNiNthanks transgress.  I'll let you know my progress.09:40
ompaulpippin-, i386 install09:40
digitizehow many of you guys (with a 5.04 install) have updated sources.list with the breezy badger (5.10) repositories?09:40
transgressKanRiNiN: anymore questions ask about... i gotta run... but you can PM me and let me know how it goes09:40
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Gavrilafor every one with an ati card on a widescreen http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/post_bug.cgi09:40
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digitizei'm semi eager to do that... though i should probably wait until the official release09:40
Gavrilaehm ops09:40
benjam1nis there a textfile or something somewhere that i can edit to change the apps under applications, i want to add a category for development tools09:40
Gavrilafor every one with an ati card on a widescreen http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1560609:41
prenticedigitize: i changed my repos w/o problems.09:41
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digitizeprentice: i imagine that'd be the case, was just curious, ty for hte feeback09:41
ompaulgerarcone, if you have cpp one then what you do is this g++ -o myoutputfile mysourcefile.cpp --- note you do not have a .exe extention linux is smart about this - it will know that the file is a binary09:41
digitizei imagined*09:41
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venzenbenjam: apt-get install smeg09:41
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CryptidPLZ Help!!!I installed Mldonkey jus now on my ubuntu 5.04 but dont know how to run it please help me i cant find it even in the Applications>Internet>   feild what do i do09:41
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tokenbadwhy is it that ubuntu is running so slow09:42
KanRiNiNwish I could just apt-get this, but I get the same error.09:42
digitizeCryptid: look for in the cmd line, using tab and such09:42
tokenbadand all have open is xchat terminal and file browser09:42
pippin-I can't survive09:42
digitizeCryptid: like type mldon <tab>09:42
martiisudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx09:42
martiigives me09:42
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ompaulgerarcone, -o forces the outputfile name - so -o ompaul creates a ompaul executable09:42
martiiFATAL: Module fglrx not found.09:42
p0windahCryptid: dpkg -L mldonkey | grep bin09:42
martiiFATAL: Module fglrx not found.09:42
martiihmmm09:42
=== pippin- hmm
digitizetokenbad: are you running gnome?09:42
tokenbadyes09:42
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tokenbadwhatever the default with ubuntu is09:42
ompaulpippin-, what do you mean you can't survive?09:42
prenticeI need help with a dualhead setup. CRT & TV. I have everything working, but want to know if there is a way to keep the gnome-session off of the TV--I want a blank screen on the TV.09:43
ali4728linukso,  I have a user and privilages but on log file thee is sign of Connection error from remote! do u think it is a Port issue?09:43
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digitizei've found gnome to hog some resources and slow things down, i personally prefer xfce (www.xfce.org)09:43
prenticexorg.conf : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/223009:43
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tokenbadis it easy to use that instead of gnome for ubuntu?09:43
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gerarconeompaul: very nice, so the name of the file is without extension?09:43
digitizeyeah xfce is fairly easy09:43
tokenbadbut I have 1 gig of ram and 2.1 ghz09:43
CryptidDigitised thanx it worked but how do i put it in the inter Tab09:43
digitizeyou'll probably have to add another repository to sources.list though09:43
pippin-Do you like apples?09:43
libbenwhy does java -version tells me 1.4.2 something ... when i did a executable of my jrefile.bin and then ./filename.bin09:43
ompaulgerarcone, yes - the source we do by convention to indicate that it is a c++ source file09:44
LasseLhow come my ubuntu-desktop package depend on mozilla-firefox-gnome-support and firefox-gnome-support from the mirrormax repos ?09:44
libbenim using breezy09:44
gerarconeompaul: what editor is best to write .cpp files?09:44
digitizeCryptid: hrmmm, you'll have to look through the gnome menu setup, i'm not too sure myself09:44
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pippin-libben09:44
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ompaulgerarcone, there are many - I like nedit and there more who don't :)09:44
libbenpippin-:09:44
ompaulgerarcone, there are many many editors09:44
mcphailgerarcone: this will start a war... (Hint: don't ask about editors on linux channels!)09:45
p0windah:)09:45
ompaul!start editor war09:45
ubotuompaul: Did you get hit by a windmill?09:45
libbenvIm09:45
tokenbaddigitize, shouldn't 1 gig of ram and 2.1 ghz be more than enough to run gnome?09:45
Seveas!start an editor war09:45
ubotugedit is better than emacs09:45
digitizegerarcone: kate, gedit, nedit, mousepad, etc...09:45
pippin-I'm lagging libben09:45
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digitizetokenbad: i have about the same setup, and it would get laggy from time to time09:45
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mcphaillol09:45
tokenbadthis is all the time09:45
ompaulSeveas, thanks09:45
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tokenbadand have nothing running but what I said before09:45
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libbenk, u have a answer for my problems?09:45
pippin-libben: :(09:45
Cryptiddigitize, check out this error what do i do mlgui09:45
CryptidNo /home/melchey/.mldonkey/installer.ini found09:45
CryptidGettext.set_strings_file: no message file found. Creating one09:45
CryptidResolving [ubuntu]  ...done09:45
CryptidUsing threads09:45
CryptidRegistered protocol IRC09:45
digitizetokenbad: try out xfce :)09:45
tokenbadand if run other stuff...slows down so bad it locks up09:45
CryptidNo /home/melchey/.mldonkey/mldonkey_im.ini found09:46
tokenbadok09:46
CryptidNo /home/melchey/.mldonkey/newgui_messages.ini found09:46
pippin-libben: I guess so09:46
Cryptid(mlgui:7912): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib09:46
Cryptid(mlgui:7912): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers09:46
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ompaulkill Cryptid09:46
CryptidFatal error: exception Gpointer.Null09:46
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tokenbadhow do you recomend me getting it?09:46
p0windahtry reducing swappiness can be helpful for desktop usage09:46
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digitizetokenbad: one second09:46
p0windahoh man, he is surely gonna get warned :)09:46
ompaul Cryptid  DO not paste in here09:46
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nefti get this msg now when i reboot: I cannot start the X server. It is likely that it is not set up correctly09:46
ompaul Cryptid use paste.ubuntulinux.nl09:46
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nefthow do fix this?09:46
Cryptidompaul, ok09:46
pippin-neft can you write my nick please?09:47
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claudiaok i give up09:47
claudiathis is too hard09:47
tokenbadreducing swappiness?09:47
tokenbadwhat is that?09:47
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claudiait seems to be absolutely impossible09:47
tokenbadcouldn't I go to KDE?09:47
digitizetokenbad: you can try that as well09:48
venzenclaudia: try xmms..09:48
tokenbadwithout having to download and install kubuntu?09:48
neftanyone know how to manually start X server?09:48
pippin-go to fluxbox09:48
claudiavenzen ?!09:48
claudiaxmms can convert?09:48
CryptidDigitised, what do i do u've seen the problem rite?09:48
claudiai thought this is only a player09:48
oracelhey guys guess what I downloaded 5.04 instead of 5.10 :rolleyes:09:48
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gerarconeompaul & co. : I have gedit, i'll start from it09:48
oracelI have no idea how I managed to do that09:48
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digitizeCryptid: well, if you paste it on a webpage i can take a look09:48
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prentice(2nd and last try) I need help with a dualhead setup. CRT & TV. I have everything working, but want to know if there is a way to keep the gnome-session off of the TV--I want a blank screen on the TV.09:48
Cryptiddigitize, ok i will do it09:48
tokenbadhow do I reduce swappiness?09:48
pippin-oracel and how long does it take for you to download the 5.04 587M ?09:48
digitizetokenbad: if you add: deb http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main to your /etc/apt/sources.list file, then type apt-get update09:48
p0windahtokenbad: cat /proc/sys/vm/swapiness09:48
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lundner@oracel maybe you should change the repositories to breezy ...?! :-)09:49
venzenclaudia: no I mean, to play ogg! else persevere for longer than 30 minutes on the challenge of converting...09:49
digitizetokenbad: you can then try apt-get install xfce409:49
KanRiNiNhey.  I ran the ./configure cc=gcc 3.3 like transgression said.  it worked fine until it said zlib not found, but I have the runtime installed.09:49
tokenbadthanks digitize09:49
digitizetokenbad: then log out of gnome, and at gdm you can select xfce09:49
KanRiNiNshould I install the dev also?  or the uncompressin lib?09:49
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claudiavenzen, wrong answer09:49
p0windahtokenbad: I use 10 and it improves things for me09:49
claudiaoggs on pc no problem09:49
oracelpippin-, half an hour or so09:49
oraceland 3.2mbit/sec09:49
oracelat09:49
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gerarconeok guys, thank you very much for the help and goodbye!09:50
tokenbadsays no file09:50
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pippin-oracel okay it takes here for me a 12 hours+ to download it, so you should feel happy09:50
tokenbadwhen type in that cat stuff for swapiness09:50
p0windahtokenbad: cat /proc/sys/vm/swapiness09:50
oracelpippin-, I do :)09:50
p0windahwith two P's, rather09:50
Cryptiddigitize, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2231 check this out09:50
pippin-oracel good for you09:50
p0windahmybad09:50
pippin-oracel are you an op here?09:50
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oracelhere, have some bandwidth! /me throws09:50
oracelnope09:50
pippin-oracel: okay09:50
tokenbadits set to 6009:50
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martiiis xorg flgrx driver for both kernels 386 and 686 >09:50
ratl3hi, is there any way you can set up evolution to use a proxy?09:50
martii?09:50
oracelactually I joined just roughly one and a half downloads ago09:50
oracel:)09:50
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p0windahmove it down to 30, do normal desktopish things and see whats its like09:51
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p0windahI use 10 and have no problems, just improved performance09:51
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digitizeCryptid: hrmmm, i've no clue09:51
KanRiNiNany ideas?09:51
pippin-I have no idea at all.09:51
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ratl3can you set a proxy in evolution?09:51
keenanI'm running Breezy, and it takes a really long time to start gnome, the splash screen gets stuck at "Metacity Window Manager" for like 5 minutes09:52
tokenbadbut its not just my desktop09:52
tokenbadits my mouse and everything freezing09:52
keenanthe weird part is that top shows the CPU is completely idle09:52
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venzenpeople I think tokenbad's problem is memory related - like hw memory modules09:52
jasperwell, don't use breezy then09:53
venzentokenbad: check your bios setup09:53
reiki_workisn't Breezy still in debug mode?09:53
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p0windahsorry, didnt know you machine was locking09:53
deliretokenbad: i would look at a memory test to trawl that RAM block by block.09:53
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tripphello09:53
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venzenhehe09:54
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tripphey everyone, im having some trouble getting my 3d to work09:54
delirereiki_work: hmm tell me about it.09:54
Yapserati / nvidia / matrox?09:54
Sonny_Wertzikdoes somebody know a place with a good collection of.wav sound effects or mp3 sound effects?09:54
trippati09:54
reiki_workdelire: 53 next Tuesday... you got me beat?09:55
Yapserk, wich card?09:55
Yapserit's pretty easy09:55
trippi tried following howto on forums09:55
p0windahSonny_Wertzik: definately not #ubuntu09:55
trippgigabye 9250 pro09:55
delireSonny_Wertzik: http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/index.php09:55
trippnothing fancy09:55
Yapsersince i have an ati card t0o :)09:55
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deFryskSonny_Wertzik, use google09:55
Sonny_Wertzikdelire, thx09:55
venzenyeh09:55
trippi did the install stuff, but it now is worse than before09:55
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Sonny_Wertzikdelire, i tried google but there are like a million phony ad site and crap09:56
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p0windahtripp: you've just joined an extremely large and unhappy club09:56
delireSonny_Wertzik: this is a good site as all the sounds are licensed for re-use remixing.09:56
ubuntuhello09:56
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Yapserisn't that bad p0windah09:56
p0windahOMG09:56
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p0windahmy distro is talking to me?!09:56
Yapseryes.09:56
ompaulp0windah, that is a live CD09:56
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Yapserlinux usually talks to you in the first console ;)09:56
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Sonny_Wertzikdelire, it looks good so far09:57
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WhistlerSorry for offtopic but where can i chat about basketball?09:57
Yapser><09:57
p0windahcall a friend on the phone ?09:57
Yapser./j basketball09:57
Yapseror something like that ><09:57
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trippokay09:57
test34by the time I install software updates, there is 15 more available09:57
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trippwell just one q then, how do i start and stop xorg/gnome whatever when i make changes without rebooting to test etc..09:58
Sonny_Wertzikheh ..."wierd male scream pack hehehe09:58
ompaulWhistler, I guess you need to look to google for that one, freenode is more about open source software09:58
Yapser* Now talking in #basketball09:58
Yapser* niven.freenode.net sets mode: +ns09:58
Yapser* Retrieving #basketball modes...09:58
Yapser* Yapser sets mode: +l 133709:58
Yapser* Whistler has joined #basketball09:58
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Yapserrofl09:58
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deliretripp: ctrl-alt-backspace09:58
tokenbadok could you tell me what to add to my list again to get the other gui instead of knome?09:58
ompaulYapser, NO PASTING09:58
tokenbadgnome even09:58
CryptidPlease List out P2P applications for ubuntu Except for mldonkey nicotine gtk-gnutell direct connect limewire and torrent client it seems like i listed out pretty much every thing but i case i missed out ne thing let me know09:58
trippthanks09:58
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Yapserompaul, k09:59
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deliretripp: np.. you trying to get your ATI card running the proprietary drivers?09:59
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mdkechavo, thanks, sorry for late response09:59
mdkechavo, how come that isn't available from the menu, do you know?09:59
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tokenbaddigitize, could you give me the deb site and apt-get command again for the gui?09:59
chavomdke, no idea09:59
mdkechavo, it sucks :( I want my address bar10:00
test34How to enable Ctrl+Alt+Del to open System Monitor in GNOME with ubuntu 5.10 ? the way the ubuntu guide v5.04 uses doesn't work..10:00
p0windahCryptid: surely theres now, check freshmeat10:00
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chavomdke, I like the breadcrumb, and the address bar10:00
mdkechavo, breadcrumb?10:00
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tokenbaddigitize?10:01
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chavothe buttons that list the directories10:01
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mdkechavo, you like both views you mean?10:01
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chavoyeah, but I don't use nautilus normally. I use konqueror/ KDE10:01
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GoClick!horay-extras10:02
ubotuGoClick: Are you on ritalin?10:02
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mdkechavo, i like both too, but I would have liked to know how to switch from the menu, rather than having to come in here10:02
tokenbador how can I convert to using kde instead of gnome without installing kubuntu?10:02
GoClickDid I spell it wrong?10:02
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Yapserapt-get install kde? :P10:02
martiiok10:02
mdkeGoClick, it is hoary10:02
GoClickAh10:02
martiiit seems I missed restricted modules package10:02
tokenbadYapser, think there was something else someone said to do10:02
chavognome likes to take features away for the sake of simplicity10:02
GoClick!hoary-extras10:02
ubotuhoary-extras is, like, totally, see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted10:02
tokenbadif I remember that10:02
chavoI think they over do it sometimes10:02
mdkechavo, i don't like this one10:03
Yapsertokenbad -> ?10:03
gigaclontokenbad, install kubuntu-desktop10:03
tokenbadahhh10:03
tokenbadthats it10:03
Yapserdamned, that was the one :)10:03
tokenbadI thought there was more to it10:03
YapserI guess gnome is lighter weight?10:03
delireYapser: no, not really10:04
YapserI want a apt-gettable light GUI for my notebook10:04
p0windahtwm10:04
delireYapser: blackbox, openbox, xfce10:04
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chavoYapser, try xfce or one of the *boxes10:04
p0windahfvwm95 :)10:04
Yapserwill try xfce :)10:04
chavoxfce is nice10:04
ompaulYasper xvwm10:04
delirewmii <-- the king of 0-WIMP wm's10:04
jasperand here on the notebook (i'm Yapser :))10:04
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maximaus$ sudo apt-get xfce4-desktop is the metapackage I believe.10:04
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oracelI like xfce10:05
oracelit feels just like kde10:05
chavoIt's a little lumper than KDE10:05
delirekde 'light' is worth looking at. i don't have the link handy.10:05
chavolumpier10:06
Sonny_Wertzikdelire, you know any other sound site...i cant use tis 1...it uses flash10:06
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delireSonny_Wertzik: you don't have flash support in the browser?10:06
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maximausthe only thing sucky about xfce is xffm, imho, I use Rox instead.10:06
Sonny_Wertzikno 64 bit version of flash yet10:06
Yapsercompile yourself?10:06
Yapseror can't do?10:06
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delireSonny_Wertzik: ahah.. i'll think of one after dinner perhaps.10:07
Sonny_Wertzikokie10:07
char1iecha1ki get a kernel panic whilst trying to install to a clean system what can i do10:07
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ompaulYapser,  sudo apt-get install icewm-lite10:07
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anethemahey ive got a problem changing resolutions10:07
dzik_24Haloo10:07
p0windahI'd like to know whats wrong with fvwm9510:07
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anethemawhen i go to the res changer thng, it says some RandR isnt working10:07
jaspercouldn't find package10:07
p0windahI know for a fact that all real hackers use fvwm9510:07
anethemaso i cant change on the fly10:07
chavop0windah, it's 200510:07
jasperneed to unlock universe?10:07
anethemacan i make it work ?10:07
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delire_eatp0windah very little10:08
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chavowe need -> fvwm0510:08
dzik_24How to install Ubuntu with fluxbox only WITHOUT Gnome10:08
tokenbadok have the other on now10:08
Yapser'server' install?10:08
tokenbadlets see if slow down any10:08
Sonny_Wertzikdoes somebody know a place with a good collection of.wav sound effects or mp3 sound effects?===please.10:08
Yapserinstalls it without any gui10:08
anethemacan anyone help?10:08
chavoSonny_Wertzik, http://google.com10:08
Yapseranethema -> with?10:08
dzik_24server and then apt-get fluxbox??10:08
p0windahanyone had luck with seveas repository in the last hour or so ?10:09
Cr4shhey guyz how to I share a printer on LAn I run UBuntu which the printer is connected to. and the wireless router and there is alatop downstrais how do i share the printer withteh windows machine the laptop..???10:09
anethemai asked just up there, but when i try to change resolutions, it says some RandR thing doesnt work10:09
anethemaso i cant change res's10:09
Sonny_Wertzikchavo, i tried google but there are like a million phony ad site and crap10:09
jasper@Cr4sh cups10:09
chavotrue10:09
Cr4shmore detailes please I'm new to this???10:09
anethemaany idea yasper?10:09
chavoSonny_Wertzik, what kind of sound effects?10:09
jasperusually cups does the trick, but I don't know the details of it10:09
Sonny_Wertzikchavo, event sounds10:10
chavoSonny_Wertzik, there are some at http://kde-look.org not a lot, but it's a start10:10
Cr4shI'm the one where the printer is connected to.. how do I make the widnows laptop detect it??10:10
Sonny_Wertzikchavo, thank you10:10
dzik_24what is installing in "server" option10:10
jasperwithout Gnome10:10
anethemano one has any idea about RandR and changing resoutions in ubuntu ?10:11
jasperor KDE (or whatever kind of ubuntu you have)10:11
dzik_24so OOfice is installing10:11
jasperhrm, sucks on lowend machinea10:11
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jasperabiword pwn10:11
Cr4shi have gnome10:11
char1iecha1khello, i am having trouble trying to install, i think it is hard disk related error message is kernel panic - not syncing no init found try passing init= option to kernel. only ibelieve this problem is caused by changing hardware, but i am trying to boot/install???10:12
p0windahincrease the memory OOO uses improves its performance dramatically10:12
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Yapsercan you boot in safe mode char1iecha1k?10:12
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char1iecha1khda is blank10:12
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Yapseryeah, but not worth it on a cel 366 notebook10:12
anethemayapser no idea about my problem?10:12
p0windahI think by default it tried to get along with 8MB10:12
p0windahtries, rather10:12
char1iecha1kYapser hda is blank10:12
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Yapseranethema around changing your screen res?10:13
dzik_24Is it worth to install 5.10 Preview now10:13
Yapserchar1iecha1k what did you change?10:13
anethemayes10:13
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KyralI really can't wait until I get a FreeNX server on this thing and can get offa VNC10:13
JWoodsHi all.  I just installed Breezy Beaver and I'm having a problem with the panel at the bottom of the screen.10:13
[R] hi, i'd like to play a swf local file... which player can do it ? :)10:13
anethemaif i go in prefs to the screen res thing..i get this message:10:13
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anethemaThe X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.10:13
JWoodsNone of my applications are showing up in the panel.10:13
Yapserhmm damn10:13
p0windahJWoods: reboot10:13
Kyralor10:13
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Yapsermaybe something like ctrl-alt and + on the left?10:13
Kyralkillall gnome-panel10:13
ompauldzik_24, if you can tell the difference between dev and release then yes, if you do not understand then I would suggest not10:13
Yapserdunno what the real command is10:13
Yapserchanges your res OTF10:13
char1iecha1kYapser nothing thats the prob, i deleted all partions and created a swap partitio and a normal partition10:14
anethemahm seems to work10:14
anethemawonder why that app wont do it10:14
ben42anethema: do you use the fglrx-driver?10:14
Yapserdon't know either10:14
char1iecha1kYapser then tried to install from cd and i get this eror10:14
anethemaben yes\10:14
anethemaand ctrl-alt-+ puts me in virtual desktop mode, doh10:14
Yapseredit your x.org file to match your monitor tough10:14
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ompaulYapser, that works where several resolutions are available :)10:15
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Yapserompaul -> know that ;)10:15
ben42afaik then it is not possibel to change your resolution this way10:15
anethemaben42, does the fglrx driver break RandR?10:15
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anethemaso ive got to use ctrl-alt-+ then ben ?10:15
JWoodsone other note about my panel problem... I imported my home directory from my other machine that was running Warty Warthog.  Would that have any effect on my current panel settings?10:15
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p0windahJWoods: did you just upgrade to breezy ?10:15
Yapserapt-get install fluxbox doesn't really give the thing I want it to do10:15
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Yapseror launching the machine in fluxbox doesn't work tough10:16
ompaulJWoods, not a good idea10:16
JWoodsNo, its a fresh install on a new machine.  I tar-ed up my home dir from another machine and ftp-ed it over and untar-ed it.10:16
ben42anethema i do not know what happens exacty, but it seems not to work together and you have to change the resolution in the x.org - file and restart gdm10:16
peloverdeso i'm trying to port a package from sid to breezy, is there a howto or anything like that?10:16
ompaulJWoods, why did you do warty?10:16
anethemayeah kind of figured10:16
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anethemactrl-alt-+ works for on the fly changes luckily10:16
p0windahJWoods: who owns the files in /home/user/ now ?10:16
anethemabut it keeps the same desktop size10:16
anethemaso virtual desktop kicks in10:17
JWoodswarty was the latest release when I installed on my old machine.  Never upgraded to hedgehog or beaver.10:17
Yapserit booted now10:17
Yapserand it is .. light. :P10:17
JWoodsroot owns the tarball, but I own my home directory and all the files/dirs underneath.10:17
char1iecha1kYapser before it says kernel panic it says, ramdisk compressed image found then next line crc error10:18
ben42anethema http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/20110:18
Yapsercrc error10:18
p0windahdouble check permissions and software versions10:18
Yapserseems like dead iso image10:18
ben42anethema someone wrote there that it works together10:18
p0windahand if it all matches, check again :)10:18
JWoodsp0windah: how do I check software versions?10:18
wastrelwe hates it10:19
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p0windahit'd be faster to tar up what you need and move that across10:19
char1iecha1kYapser, i have tried about 5 different versions of linux (i would like to get ubuntu going) and they are all doing this10:19
Yapserhrm, how do you download?10:19
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Yapserfor instance, try a torrented file, since they all do this10:19
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gigaclonis there a way to change from the backports ver of Firefox to the ubuntu official Firefox10:19
anethemaweird ben4210:19
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Yapsertorrent = failure checking10:19
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anethemait says on that page that it works if it says in your logfile that its there and initialized10:20
anethemaand in my xorg log file it says that10:20
char1iecha1kYapser, me? i know this is a working disk cos i insalled another system the other day on it10:20
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JWoodsp0windah: maybe I'll do that.  what specific dirs do I *not* need?10:20
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Yapserhrm k, damn10:20
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ben42anethema sorry, i do not unterstand it, either, i ended up with changing the xorg.conf ...10:20
JWoodsor what dirs should I not overwrite?10:20
Yapserbut since it's giving a crc error.. it's the source of the data10:20
Yapserso I would try another cd drive10:21
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anethema(==) RandR enabled10:21
anethema(II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR10:21
anethemathats in my Xorg log10:21
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morbidihello10:21
morbidiI forgot my password10:21
char1iecha1kYapser now that is interesting you shoou;d say that10:21
morbidiwhat do I do ?10:21
Krnekihay now i have apache php and mysql original by ubuntu, i copy like user in to htdocs directory, directory forum, and apache seem to not see the directory, it say that there is no such a directory, directory forum has same attributs like all other, why is this happening10:21
ben42anethema sounds good10:21
morbidishould I boot the live CD ?10:21
Yapserlol char1iecha1k?10:21
char1iecha1kYapser its a friends laptop - sony stear clear10:21
Yapserrofl10:21
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p0windahJWoods: well I would simply copy the files you have downloaded or specifically authored(openoffice, images)10:22
boxerboyi installed the updates now none of my root items will open example like updater or package manager10:22
test34where should I put new codecs for totem ?10:22
vrlnis there an eta for breezy rc1?10:22
char1iecha1kYapser either it is a dodgy cd reader or very incompatible hardware10:22
boxerboyit wont even prompt me10:22
anethemayeah10:22
Yapserguess so10:22
anethemastill wont change tho10:22
anethemaah well10:22
anethemahehe10:22
anethemathanks for your help10:22
boxerboyi reset root password and rebooted still no luck10:22
Yapserbut I guess it does give a CRC error for a reason10:22
p0windahJWoods: unless you have some bookmarks you *must* retain, then copying all the .xxx settings across is going to cause grief10:22
Yapser@ morbidi guess you can't get your pass back since it is md5summed10:22
char1iecha1kYapser, it installs winblows alright10:23
Yapserbut windows sucks ;)10:23
char1iecha1kYapser winslows!10:23
test34in /usr/local/lib ?10:23
ben42Yapser ;)10:23
JWoodsp0windah: can I just reinstall the panel using the package manager?10:23
JWoodswill that fix things or will there be other stuff that's messed up?10:23
p0windahJWoods: well if your new machine is working, and its apps are all working. simply adding a openoffice, movie, mp3 and images into your home directory wont cause any problems10:24
morbidiYapser: but I have to reinstall it ?10:24
morbidino way10:24
Yapsermorbidi guess so10:25
morbidicould I do a chroot ?10:25
Yapserdon't know, really10:25
Yapseryou can try booting in knoppix to rescue files?10:25
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morbidiYapser: that's just pretty dumb to reinstall10:25
p0windahJWoods: copy configuration files from one computer to another, where the software installed and its versions are not exactly the same is bound to have problems10:25
midfreakhola10:25
morbidimidfreak: ol10:25
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Krnekihay now i have apache php and mysql original by ubuntu, i copy like user in to htdocs directory, directory forum, and apache seem to not see the directory, it say that there is no such a directory, directory forum has same attributs like all other, why is this happening10:26
jfarrellwell in short my apt-get is broken10:26
JWoodsp0windah: yeah, I did include all the .* dirs from my home directory.  I haven't run into any problems other than the panel (yet).  I'm thinking that reinstalling the panel should fix things.  No?10:26
jfarrelli think my sources are out of date10:26
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Yapserapt-get update10:26
jfarrellany ideas on how to fix it10:26
test34is there a firefox 1.5 package ?10:26
Yapserapt-get update10:26
obscuriteBeen reading the ubuntu laptop wiki pages10:26
jfarrellYapser, everything just times out10:26
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midfreakhola10:26
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Yapserseems a problem with your dns or internet connection then ;)10:26
jfarrellYapser, sorry iw as thinking of upgrade keyword10:27
p0windahdoes ubuntu install pdns by default ?10:27
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Yapserhehe10:27
Yapserapt-get10:27
Yapserjust the command10:27
agent_anyone know how to list all installed packages?10:27
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Yapserand all commands will be showed wich you can issue10:27
boxerboyls command i think10:27
p0windahagent_: dplg -l | less10:27
obscuriteMaybe a lapp ubuntu user can answer this - if you use an external monitor sometimes, when you plug in the monitor, does it switch modes automatically, or do you need to restart x manually? sorry, i've always been a server side linux person, not desktop so much10:27
koinhi, i'm new to linux but i should emulate windows to use photoshop. how can i do?10:27
obscurites/lapp/lappy10:27
Yapserkoin10:27
Yapserphotoshop -> the gimp10:28
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dwerfBreezyUpgradeNotes10:28
dwerfNote: This is a work in progress and may break your system!!!10:28
dwerf What is meant with 'breaking'?10:28
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Yapserkilling?10:28
ompaulagent_, that might be dpkg -l | less10:28
agent_koin, i would suggest trying the gimp (also to get used to it)... if you really need photoshop... try wine10:28
benjam1ncan someone tell me how i change the owner of a directory and all its subdirs and files10:28
agent_ompaul, aye! thanks!10:28
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koinYapser: I don't like the gimp... you should know that are some years I use photoshop10:28
dwerfbut not damaging hardware - i hope?10:28
obscuritenoone uses a laptop w/ external display?10:28
ai-2hi i have problems with installing VLC videolan can someone help me, iam new to ubuntu and apt-get10:29
Necron69benjamin: chown -R <dir>10:29
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Yapser@ai-210:29
agent_ompaul, i thought -l only worked *with* a package... didnt know you could just have it by itself :)10:29
Yapserthey use a own source for their player10:29
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Yapserhave you added that in your /etc/apt/sources.list?10:29
test34where should I put video codecs (for totem) ?10:29
koinagent: how can i install this wine?10:29
ompaulagent_, well blame the author not me :-)10:29
venzenbenjamin: chown -R username.groupname <dir>10:29
contadorse me paro el amule10:29
agent_ompaul, ;)10:29
erUSULbenjam1n: chown -R user.group dir/ you should RTFM man chown10:29
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contadoryou speaken spanish10:30
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venzenyep10:30
contadornadiaauq10:30
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annexI have installed Ubuntu 5.04 on a partition to test it before switching.  So far I love it except Xorg performance seems rather poor.  Currently using Xfree86 on gentoo resizing of windows, scrolling in firefox etc. is much smoother than using Xorg on ubuntu. Using 'top', I've noticed Xorg uses about 20-30% more of my cpu than Xfree86 does when simply scrolling the same website in firefox, or resizing a gaim chat window.  Any ideas on how I can 10:30
dwerfis breezy dangerous to install?10:30
contadorsi10:30
venzenwelcome or try #ubuntu-es10:30
p0windahannex: stop using vesa ?10:30
ai-2hello, anyone who can explain how i can install vlc? there is no link for ubuntu, but since its almost as debian i think i click on debian linux. but how do i install it with apt-get? please10:30
delire_eatkoin: http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=24110:31
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contadormi amule no se conecta10:31
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Yapserdwerf -> you can try, but you may break the distro10:31
annexp0windah: how can I tell is it's using vesa?10:31
Yapser@ai-2 read10:31
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contadorcomo hago eso10:31
Yapserthey suggest adding their apt-get source in the list10:31
boxerboydwerf: if ur gonna do it download it and burn it10:31
erUSULcontador: try in #ubuntu-es10:31
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p0windah30% cpu to scroll a window is clearly not using any acceleration10:31
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erUSULcontador: intental en #ubuntu-es10:31
agent_ompaul, but doesnt dpkg -l list *all* packages available (not all installed)?10:31
dwerfboxerboy > i just started an online install10:31
wastrel"hella"10:32
Yapser@ p0windah agreed10:32
Cryptidhow do i install files that have .tar.bz extensions10:32
wastrelnow what's vlc?10:32
dwerffor the best then10:32
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p0windahhang on, you said 20-30% more,.. so god knows what the total is10:32
boxerboyits safer that way10:32
YapserVLC media player -> supporting divx etc codecs10:32
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annexp0windah: like 50-80%10:32
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koindelire_eat: what is that? a page about gimp?10:32
annextotal10:32
p0windahheh10:32
venzencontador: your mouse?10:32
p0windahyeah that would suck :)10:32
boxerboylatest breezy updates screwed my root up somehow10:32
boxerboy<<not happy at all about that10:32
ai-2videolan10:32
delire_eatkoin: it's a photoshop look-alike interface for the gimp, if you really must have the same look/UI as photoshop.10:32
annexp0windah: one of my monitors is on a nvidia Geforce2 GTS, the other on an old ATI pci card10:33
CryptidHelp PLZ !!!!!!!!!!!!how do i install files that have .tar.bz extensions10:33
p0windahthere are excellent guides for both nvidia and ati cards, I think ubuntuguide.org ?10:33
YapserCryptid that's basic10:33
ben42Cryptid tar -xvjf <file>10:33
p0windahCryptid: file roller ?10:33
Yapserp0windah that's the most basic one aviable :D10:34
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CryptidYapser, i am new to Linux i dont know anything10:34
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boxerboythats the site but i hear those are bad words here10:34
annexp0windah: any idea what would cause the slowdown in Xorg compared to Xfree though?10:34
erUSULCryptid: tar xvjf  <file>.tar.bz then enter the directory and read INSTALL or README10:34
venzenCrypt: right click > file roller10:34
delire_eatCryptid: they are archives, not installers.10:34
p0windahannex: xfree is not using vesa, xorg is10:34
koindelire_eat: thanks, but is difficult that it will be the same thing10:34
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annexp0windah: what is vesa?10:34
ben42Cryptid  tar -xvjf is only for unpacking10:34
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elzbalHey all - I'm an old hand at Unix/Linux, doing my first Ubuntu install (for my wife). What's the recommended/minimum size of a /boot partition for Ubuntu?10:34
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Cryptidben42 How to install after unpacking10:34
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p0windahits the bare minimum, shoudl work on anything driver that is completely hardware agnostic10:35
koindelire_eat: consider that now i'm using photoshop cs210:35
delire_eatkoin: sure ok10:35
char1iecha1kYapser i have tried ubuntu suse fedora debian slackware and they all give similar errors, does that sound like it is a dodgy cdreader? i have my doubts because winslows works fine /:10:35
p0windahit ensures you see something, but also that it completely blows10:35
Yapsercould be tough10:35
delire_eatkoin: i'm not a fan of photoshop, so perhaps the wrong guy to talk to.10:35
venzenelzbal : 100Mb should be fine10:35
elzbalThanks10:35
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ben42Cryptid it depends ... ;) is there a  README or INSTALL ? usually these are textfiles and contains the necessary intructions10:35
p0windahannex: check out the ubuntuguide website, its got great tutorials for what you're experiencing10:36
venzenelzbal: you could go without.. whats the partition table look like10:36
tellIf I'm running off the live CD is my OSX hard drive vulnerable to attacks?10:36
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Yapsertell nope10:36
delire_eatCryptid: it is common practice to distribute source code in a tar.gz or tar.bz2 archive.10:36
boxerboytell: no10:36
tellyay10:36
annexp0windah: dealing with slowdowns?  or installing the card?  That site is a very long list10:36
venzentell: unless you mount it10:36
ompaulagent_, check the output does it look like 17.5k packages so it is the installed10:36
delire_eatCryptid: thus you depending on what you downloaded and why, you may have to compile the application.10:36
p0windahannex: you want me to read it for you ?10:36
tellIs there a firewall i can slipstream into the live CD?10:36
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elzbalvenzen: I wanted to do reiserfs for my main partition, but I know not all grubs handle reiserfs well. So rather than play russian roulette with grub, I was just going to make a minimum ext2 for /boot.10:37
boxerboylive cd has nothing to do with hard drives your running it off your cd/dvd rom10:37
Yapsertell why?10:37
dwerfthe update to breezy seems very problematic - i guess it's too late to stop though10:37
koindelire_eat: ok, yes, i understand. I don't have some preferences, but is difficult to me doing all the work with a software that i don't know at all!10:37
p0windahdwerf: be brave10:37
delire_eatkoin: of course ;)10:37
reiki_workkoin: have you looked at GimpShop? :)10:37
boxerboyits a good upgrade10:37
Yapsertell www.grc.com if you don't believe your stuff is safe10:37
tellbecause I'm still paranoid10:37
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boxerboyim hating it right now but its a good upgrade10:37
venzenelzbal - sure10:37
ai-2hey is this a help forum or what? can you please tell me where to download vlc for ubuntu cannot find anny support for it in www.videolan.org/vlc10:37
tellyeah sheilds up1 is sweet10:37
Yapserdude10:37
annexp0windah: it sounds like you have a specific guide in mind, a link would be nice.  No I'm not asking for you to read the entire thing for me.10:37
elzbal:)10:37
dwerfso many errors and warnings - things that can't be set or deleted10:37
ben42elzbal i don not have any problems with booting ubuntu 5.04 from a reiser-partition10:37
farfahelloo10:37
Yapsergo and kill your network adapter then ;)10:37
venzenelzbal - is there windowns installed on the drive?10:38
markumanai-2: apt-cache search vlc10:38
dwerfwhat's alocale?10:38
dwerfwhat's a locale?10:38
farfai'm french10:38
venzencome again?10:38
koinreiki_work: yes, delire_eat was just suggesting me that solution10:38
venzenhi farfa10:38
elzbalvenzen: On one drive, yes. I put in a second drive just for linux.10:38
ai-2markuman that didnt work10:38
dwerfwhat's a locale?10:38
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tellhow can you force refresh rates in ubuntu?10:39
bimberiai-2: it is a help forum, but it's busy atm.  you have to enable the universe repository to get vlc10:39
venzenelzbal - and that drive is secondary?10:39
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bimberiubotu tell ai-2 about repos10:39
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Yapsertell first install your graphics card, then config your monitor10:39
markumanai-2 do you have the universe and multiverse section in you sources.list?10:39
reiki_workkoin: I have come over from a WinXP background using photoshop as well. There's an excellent book (and also on the web) called Grokking the Gimp. I think it will help you a lot10:39
farfai'm a new in linux word10:39
Yapserthen it's pretty easy to force10:39
elzbalvenzen: Yes. hda is windows, hdb will be ubuntu.10:39
agent_ompaul, yeah... it seems to be only installed... output has "ii" which seems to mean installed while others files (using -l package) give me something else like "un"10:39
ai-2markuman iam new to ubuntu and apt-get10:39
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agent_ompaul, anyway, thanks again!10:40
p0windahannex: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver <- nvidia10:40
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delire_eatdwerf: it's a user specific context for handling language related settings including encoding.10:40
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tellby installing my graphics card, you mean the drivers?10:40
koinreiki_work: thanks, i'll surely read that book10:40
venzenelzbal - then make 50-100Mb  boot partition at beginning of drive hdb - ext3 is fine, reiserfs works for me...10:40
tellis it just a system option10:40
ompauldwerf, have a look at this it is a set of answers - from IBM and others via google http://tinyurl.com/9wfb310:40
annexp0windah: I'm already using the nvidia driver for the nvidia card.  I'll try those exact steps though10:40
p0windahannex: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.16.20.html <- ati10:40
reiki_workkoin: the entire book is also on teh web I think... so you can check it out to see if you want to have the book at your side10:41
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annexp0windah: thanks10:41
elzbalvenzen: Thanks. My preference is 50, but I'll probably do 100 jsut to be sure.  :)10:41
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annexp0windah: so you believe it's a driver problem then?10:41
delire_eatreiki_work: this is also how i go about an ATI install, but not the reccommended Ubuntu way.10:41
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tellare there nvidia specifics drivers on the live CD?10:41
benjam1nanyone know where amarok's icon gets put? does one even come with the install?10:41
Yapsertell yes10:41
reiki_workquestion about nVidia drivers... I haven't installed them. I have an older GeForce2 card. My video looks fine. Should I just leave it the heck alone?10:42
markumanai-2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackageManagementHowTo?highlight=%28universe%29%7C%28multiverse%2910:42
venzenelzbal - you can do 50Mb - but be careful not to have too many (5+) kernel images in there10:42
elzbalvenzen: One other question: On my main workstation, I don't typically mount /boot unless rebuilding my kernel, for safety purposes. Will Ubintu complain if I leave /boot unmounted during normal operation?10:42
koinreiki_work: i'll try to find it on the web, of course10:42
boxerboyok ppl i did the latest breezy updates and now when i got to open package manager or updater or anything else in that group nothing happens no errors no prompt for root no nothing what did i do wrong and what can i do to fix this? and plz dont say reinstall10:42
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char1iecha1ki concede!10:42
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tellif i finally install it for real should i use the IA64 drivers with a G510:43
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jessy#ubuntu-fr10:43
venzenelzbal - i am not sure - but my understanding is it is mounted during boot and then not used unless installing a new kernel image...10:43
boxerboyduring install of updates it asked me if i wanted to update the maintaners or something like that10:43
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elzbalvenzen: Thanks for the help!10:43
venzenelzbal: welcome10:44
tell*nvidia drivers10:44
erUSULelzbal: i can not umount /boot so maybe in ubuntu you can't10:44
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venzen...10:44
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erUSULelzbal: i get device busy10:44
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elzbalerusul: Thanks fro the update. Since this is for my wife, I may not mind it too much.   :)10:45
erUSULelzbal: do not know why :( lsof says nothing10:45
elzbalerusul: Are you sure you're not in the directory in a shell?  :)   (nevermind... it's really not important...)10:45
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tellpce10:46
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transgressso bob2 do you sleep?10:46
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erUSULelzbal: yes. i'm sure. maybe its gamin the filesystem watcher10:46
elzbalah10:47
reiki_workok... almost time to close the store and go home... see y'all later10:47
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boxerboyim thinking noone knows why it did that :(10:48
Krnekiany PRO of apache here?10:48
p0windahso anyone here have any luck with seveas' freenx mirror ?10:48
mdkeKrneki, best to ask your question10:49
meuserj|workp0windah, nope.. it's down10:49
p0windahthe frontpage is up, but his repository seems empty..10:49
Krnekiam10:49
test34Krneki, Im the best pro but that is the only question I answer10:49
mdkedoes anyone know where the account details get saved for evolution? I need to transfer my evolution to another computer10:49
Krnekii just extract phpbb forum in htdocs10:49
Krnekiand apache seem not to see forum10:49
meuserj|workmdke, is should all be in .evolution10:49
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mdkemeuserj|work, i copied that across but my accounts are not there10:50
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mdkemeuserj|work, everything works except for that10:50
Krnekiif i want to acess in that directory by web browser say that there is no such directory10:50
mdkemeuserj|work, i also copied across the .gnome2_private/evolution file10:50
Krnekiany idea, please HELP10:50
meuserj|workmdke, oh yeah.. that's right hold on, let me check something10:50
mdkeKrneki, you have to read the installation documentation for phpbb10:50
mdkei think10:50
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delireKrneki: check /etc/apache2/httpd.conf10:51
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Krnekiand for what should i look10:51
delireKrneki: i'm sure you don't have a 'Directory' entry for your new site.10:51
REV-controllerIf I'm using an Intel P41.7 williamette, should I install the "IA32" display drivers from nvidia?10:51
meuserj|workmdke, it looks like it keeps it in gconf10:51
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mdkemeuserj|work, eww10:52
delireKrneki: see /etc/apache/httpd.conf if above is empty. yes, and read the phbb docs10:52
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Krnekiaha10:52
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Krnekiwehre sould it be10:52
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meuserj|workif you take .gconf/apps/evolution/ it should do the trick10:52
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Yapserback10:53
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REV-controller?10:53
mdkemeuserj|work, ok i did that, still nothing, should i restart gnome?10:53
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delireKrneki: no need to msg me. is your phbb extracted to /var/www/?10:53
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char1iecha1ki reckon this sony laptop has been made so that i cant install linux every distr i try has a crc error but i know those disks are fine, then when i try winslows it installs fine :/10:54
delireKrneki: if so then you may not need to setup an alias. you might want to try restarting apache 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart'10:54
meuserj|workmdke, yeah, and make sure gconfd shuts down too10:54
ai-2Ok now i did thoose stuff with universe. now i only do apt-get install vlc10:54
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mdkemeuserj|work, all right *sigh*10:55
Krnekiam i extract phpbb to /usr/local/apache2/htdocs10:55
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mdkemeuserj|work, they should really make it easier to migrate!10:55
ai-2what about ABC yet another bittorrent client, how do i get it with apt-get?10:55
delireai-2: apt-get install <the package name here>10:55
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ai-2yes but i was wondering what the package name for ABC is? someone who knows?10:56
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delireai-2: apt-cache search abc bittorrent10:56
ben42ai-2 apt-cache search ABC10:56
RammalYo Do I need to extract all files from ubuntu.iso in order to burn them into a CD or I should just burn the whole file(ubuntu.iso)?10:56
Yapserai-2 apt-cache search ABC10:56
Yapserrofl10:56
Yapser3rd in teh row10:56
delireai-2: then select the appropriate program from the list.10:56
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benjam1nhow do i edit my mime types, i want all audio files to be played my amarok not totem10:57
ben42Rammal which program you will use to burn it?10:57
ai-2ok10:57
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delireai-2: if there is no output then it either doesn't exist or it's not in the repository.10:57
mdkemeuserj|work, still nothing :(10:57
RammalNero Express.10:57
erUSULRammal: burn the isofile10:57
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ben42benjam1n with gnome?10:58
benjam1nyeah10:58
ai-2ok delire is there any bittorrent client package in list10:58
oracelthere we go, kubuntu breezy badger all set10:58
oracelI gotta say10:58
Yapserai-210:58
oracelubuntu really blows my mind when it comes to hardware10:58
Yapserwhy don't you use gnome-bittorent?10:58
Yapsersame principle10:58
ben42benjam1n right click on one of the file -> open with10:58
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oracelit automagically works perfectly with my soundcard10:58
oracelin sharp contrast to debian10:58
oracelwhich doesn't work well with it at all!10:59
ben42benjam1n: there you can change and add the default program10:59
mdkedoes anyone know how to successfully copy over the evolution files from one computer to another? I've copied mine but evolution is not seeing my accounts10:59
saldbha! ipw2200 just needs to be completely reinstalled and then things seem to actually work somewhat10:59
delireoracel: debian is not a desktop driven os10:59
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ben42delire ACK10:59
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benjam1ncool, thanks11:00
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CrTr My subtitles are in cyrilic and when I'm watching a movie a see them in "???? ? ????? ?? ?? ??" What to do ?11:00
ben42benjam1n you're welcome11:00
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mdkemeuserj|work, recreate them manually do you think?11:00
ben42CrTr you have add the right locales11:00
deliredebian powers robots, cars, satellites, battle-tanks, servers and oh, some desktops and desktop focussed distro's..11:00
ben42CrTr you can do it with "dpkg-reconfigure locales"11:01
ninjafishdelire debian tends to be pushed rather than driven nowadays11:01
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meuserj|workmdke, still didn't work?? odd... yeah it looks like that is all you can do...11:01
mdkemeuserj|work, k11:01
delireninjafish: not sure what is meant by that. debian's always served me very well.11:01
ninjafishwhat tanks?11:01
CrTrben42 10q11:02
ben42CrTr welcome11:02
delireninjafish: i can't remember, perhaps a hallucination that future combat systems were deploying it.11:02
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ninjafishdelire. nothing against debian, it is in a class of it's own. It's just that if it was not for the spin offs it would not move forward11:03
mdkemeuserj|work, found the answer in #evolution on gimpnet11:04
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ninjafishdebian although that does keep it stable11:04
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bimberidelire: just say that "which tanks" is classified information :)11:05
mdkemeuserj|work, you have to stop the gconf daemon while copying and e-d-s too11:05
delireninjafish: not so sure about that. debian is all about stable and spinoffs.11:05
delirebimberi: ;)11:05
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delireninjafish: in other words, the 'spinoffs' is partially why debian was produced in the first instance.11:06
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ninjafishI.e pushed not driven11:06
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meuserj|workmdke, ah.. makes sense.. I should have thought of that....11:06
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Korkhi11:07
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Korkdoes anyone know when the final version of ubuntu 5.10 is released?11:07
elzbalheh... isn't that in the channel topic? (Oct 13, according to the topic.)11:08
Korkok, thx11:08
elzbalnp. :)11:09
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elzbalfwiw, I really don't know anything beyond that.  :)11:09
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abydosmmk, to mildly deviate from the topic, albuquerque drivers are complete whack jobs11:09
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Hoxzeris it possible to move xchat's channels bar from bottom to left side?11:10
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beeferhello11:10
ninjafishabydos so are Nvida drivers11:10
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beefercan someone from the us send me a disc please11:10
abydosninjafish:  Ah, another geek without a life.11:10
Krnekihow to create link to11:10
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Krnekilink to folder11:11
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Hoxzerok, fount a way11:11
Krnekiin terminal11:11
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rawlerhey ppl!11:11
abydosdmb062082:  an ubuntu disc?11:11
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abydosdmb062082:  use netship, it's free!11:11
meuserj|workKrneki, a way to do it graphically in nautilus is by dragging the icon while holding down on "CTRL-Shift"11:12
rawlerjust a quick question, is there any existing packages of mplayer that WORKS? (thinking of libavcodec)11:12
ben42Krneki ln -s <folde you want to link to> <linkname>11:12
dmb062082ive requested the free ship option many times, I am screwed here, my pc is shot and i can not access a windows os disc, and my debian net install disc will no longer work as that pc no longer has cable access11:12
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dmb062082im on like week #5 no go with the free disc in the mail11:12
ninjafishdmb where do you live11:12
erUSULKrneki: man ln. Nobody here read the manuals before asking? ln -s <name> dir/11:12
dmb062082new york11:12
abydosdmb062082:  I could send you a Warty CD set, but I have no money for shipping11:12
VersedI just d/l and burned the iso11:13
dmb062082sure man11:13
abydosdmb062082:  I literally have 10 bucks for gas until I get a job here11:13
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dmb062082how much11:13
Fluxboxhello all11:13
ninjafishdmb o.k. sorry, I have spare discs, but am in uk11:13
dmb062082i can paypal it11:13
Fluxboxlol11:13
Verseddidn't take that long, cd's are cheap and figure let them use their money in more productive areas.11:13
FluxboxFR  ?11:13
dmb062082yeah i am on my fathers pc and he has dial up here11:13
FluxboxFR?11:13
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dmb062082i never thought this would happen11:13
Versedwere in ny?11:13
dmb062082arrrg11:13
dmb062082upstate11:13
Fluxboxsorry11:13
abydosdmb062082:  You probably want hoary discs11:13
Fluxboxbye11:14
Versedand yeah I have cable.11:14
dmb062082hoary is nice11:14
abydosdo you not have a friend that has DSL or a CD-RW?11:14
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abydosOr do you not have friends?11:14
VersedSo I can understand if it's dialup11:14
dmb062082i like the idea of kubuntu aS I AM A KDE FAN11:14
dmb062082none of my friends own a pc11:14
abydosoh, all I have is regular ubuntu11:14
abydoseep11:14
abydosboonies11:14
Yapserwhat's with the dmb062082 guy?11:14
ninjafishdmb do you not have a linux magazine in USA?11:14
Yapserno internet or something/11:14
Yapser?11:15
abydosninjafish:  we have several actually, Linux Format, Linux Journal11:15
dmb062082linux mag yeah11:15
VersedI saw it today at Barns & Noble.11:15
elzbaldmb: I generally prefer KDE, but I'm trying out Gnome 2.12 now, and I have to admit it's not too bad... I could get used to it....11:15
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dmb062082thought those were only in germany or something11:15
dmb062082gnome bleh11:15
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abydosLXF is my personal favorite, but it's published in the UK and is 100 bucks a year for a US subscription11:15
dmb062082kde rocks11:15
ninjafishdmb then get a copy they have a few distros on. if they have a DVD on the cover11:15
abydosdmb062082:  I use gnome quite handily, but KDE has its uses as well11:16
dmb062082ill look into the mag today11:16
VersedI installed kde yesterday, I was used to using it in the past, but gnome sorta grew on me, seemed alot cleaner with alot less clutter.11:16
VersedI can switch if I want on boot.11:16
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ninjafishI get Linux Format (UK), usually 2-4 distros each issue (plus the essential software)11:16
dmb062082i guess, ive used both front ends and tested a few others11:16
ninjafishtheir news is a bit behind though11:16
abydosninjafish:  I love LXF11:16
dmb062082there was one that looked amazing but it was a mess11:16
elzbaldmb: enlightenment?11:17
dmb062082yes thats it elz11:17
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elzbalI used it for a while too, back in the day....11:17
cyphasethis post (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65532) says that Ubuntu 6.04 (The Dapper Drake) will be the current release when Vista comes out. isn't it going to be 6.10?11:17
VersedWell usually publications are 2 months or so behind.11:17
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dmb062082by far the best looking once tweaked, but it was not worth the crap11:17
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cyphasevista is coming out november or december (or later)11:18
dmb062082so i see in many ways ubuntu is just a debian fork or no?11:18
vrlnis there an estimated date for RC1 (breezy)? I'm asking this because I'm wondering if I should go ahead and install the preview release, or wait a few days if the RC1 version is coming "soonish"11:18
ninjafishdmb yes and no11:18
vrlnas far as I know, it should be released more or less soon?11:18
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mjrdmb062082, well, it is kept mostly in sync each release, but yeah11:18
ninjafishdmb yes it is a fork, no it is not just a fork11:18
dmb062082thats cool does it use apt-get11:18
ben42dmb062082 certainly11:19
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abydosubuntu definitely uses apt11:19
dmb062082sweet11:19
abydosthat's the main appeal of forking debian11:19
helphello ppl.11:19
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Yapserlo11:19
dmb062082is there a list of apps running w/(k)ubuntu11:19
dmb062082i cant find it11:19
ninjafishdmb ubuntu does have that 'if it aint free(as in speech) it is not in' attitude of debian.11:19
__filip_what should i write if i what to write in my hda6 that is an vfat disk?11:20
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ninjafishwhich I disagree with somethimes11:20
helpin new in open office i have an excel file and when i printer i want it to fit to print like in window office. is there an option for that in open office?11:20
abydosdmb062082:  most apps that run with debian work with kubuntu11:20
dmb062082does ubuntu access the debian network for files, or no?11:20
abydosdmb062082:  in fact, most apps that are in KDE are already in ubuntu, such as amarok11:20
BlissexNO.11:20
erUSUL__filip_: mount -t vfat /dev/hda6 /mount/point11:20
bimberidmb062082: http://packages.ubuntu.com/11:20
dmb062082ahh ok11:21
abydosdmb062082:  ubuntu has its own repositories, but I believe with a lot of tweaking you can use the official debian sources11:21
bimberidmb062082: ubuntu has its own repositories11:21
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ciscohello everybody! enyone knows how to configure a sound car in OS ubuntu11:21
flughdang it, ubuntu is the best. you people are  top notch!11:21
__filip_erUSUL: i whant to add it to my fstab11:21
Blissexdmb062082: most Debian apps work with Ubuntu, if you are rather careful and match releases.11:21
erUSUL!tell __filip_  about Windows Drives11:21
dmb062082i see11:21
abydosdmb062082:  but the point of the whole "it's not debian" aspect is lost if you start using debian sources11:21
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ninjafishmy any mad chance does anyone use rosegarden here?11:21
Blissexdmb062082: but in general Ubuntu installs do not access Debian repositories.11:21
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jc-dentonhi11:21
abydosninjafish:  I've toyed with it, only very briefly11:22
jc-dentonwhat options do i have to give the kernel to be ableto wake up from swsups11:22
jc-dentonswsusp11:22
NoUsehey everyone I'm having trouble with alsa, I don't seem to have the capture functionality, in the gnome mixer there is only a playback tab11:22
jc-denton?11:22
dmb062082so what makes (k)ubuntu different from debian? Rather what stands out the most?11:22
CrTrDo I need to rebbot after I reconfigure locales ?11:22
CrTrreboot*11:22
bimberininjafish: i installed it, ran it, gasped at the interface, and closed it once - but that's about it sorry :)11:22
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s4f3_m0d3dmb062082, active development, packages, and the layout is different11:23
abydosdmb062082:  ubuntu is more desktop-oriented than debian, which is sort of a "meta-distribution" to borrow a Gentoo term11:23
erUSUL__filip_: echo '/dev/hda6       /mnt/hda6       vfat    rw,user,noauto          0       0' >> /etc/fstab ; mkdir /mnt/hda611:23
lonewolffdmb062082: its much easier to install and get running, more user friendly, its also using a lot more new packages11:23
erUSUL!tell __filip_  about WindowsDrives11:23
dmb062082so its more user friendly? Not that i care but its cool11:23
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abydosdmb062082:  oh yes, and more frequent releases and less broken "unstable" releases11:23
dmb062082nice11:23
terjeHey gang, I've just s/hoary/breezy/ in /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. Now, when it boots up my gnome-panel application keeps crashing.11:23
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abydosdmb062082:  and it uses xorg, which debian switched to about what, 2 months ago?11:23
helpi am new in open office i have an excel file and when i print i want it to fit to print like in window office. is there an option for that in open office?11:24
dmb062082is ther a 64 bit version?11:24
Dreezardhi everyone11:24
jc-dentoni remeber there was some option11:24
lonewolffdmb062082: yes11:24
terjeNothing in the forums on it.11:24
abydosdmb062082:  most certainly11:24
CrTrDo I need to reboot after I reconfigure locales ?11:24
jc-dentonmaybe resume=/dev/swap ?11:24
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bimberihelp: #openoffice.org11:24
erUSULCrTr: log-out and log-in should do11:25
dmb062082and did anyone test 5.10 yet? that is the version i am downloading, but I dont think I will be able to complete it11:25
terjeI'm trying to test it.11:25
Yapserwhy is everyone downing the unstable?11:25
abydosdmb062082:  also, a difference between them is that debian is the netbsd of linuxes, whereas ubuntu runs on i386, x64, and PPC11:25
Yapserjust get 5.311:25
Yapser411:25
terjeis 5.10 eq breezy ?11:25
Yapserjuh11:25
martiiterje: yep11:25
abydosterje:  5.10 is hoary innit11:25
dmb062082unstable always = more fun i thought11:25
ramdiazhello, can anyone help me:  i'm running breezy and it froze while doing an update, so when I rebooted I got a message about "show desktop" and "desktop switcher" and now I can't see my desktop switcher or any applications that are open (I have to alt+tab to change applications)11:25
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ramdiazanyone know how to get these things to show again11:26
erUSULterje: yes11:26
abydoslonewolff:  it's hoary innit?11:26
terjeheh, I'm getting two different answers11:26
p0windahnite nite girls11:26
lonewolffabydos: no, breezy, 5.04 is hoary 5.10 breezy11:26
oracelmy first impression of 5.10 (kubuntu) is "wow"11:26
dooglus5.4: hoary; 5.10: breezy; 6.4: dapper11:26
oracelthis is a really streamlined distro11:26
ninjafishwhat animal is breezy?11:26
abydoslonewolff:  aha, k11:26
abydosninjafish:  badger11:26
ramdiazbadger11:26
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ninjafishcool11:26
dmb062082oracel oh yeah11:26
dmb062082tell me more11:26
ninjafishdmb 1 cd11:27
oraceldmb062082 well everything just works11:27
terjeyea, so upgrading to breezy from hoary using apt seems to have broken gnome for me.11:27
dmb062082yes i see that ninja11:27
Blissexi hate stupid things like ''cool'' Unbuntu and Debian edition names. Just a number would be much clearer11:27
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oracelsoundcard, video, screen resolution11:27
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erUSULterje: hoary is 5.04 it shipped in 04 200511:27
oraceleverything is ready and set up11:27
oracelout of the box11:27
neighborleedoes anyone know if the checkinstall  method for creating a .deb is current as in acceptable ?11:27
dmb062082wow11:27
terjeerUSUL, thanks.11:27
oraceleven speedstep w/ governors for my laptop works!11:27
oracelI've spent hours tinkering with that on gentoo11:27
abydosdmb062082:  Another amin difference is that ubuntu has everything you need for a desktop on ONE CD, whereas debian has packages like that strewn all over the CDs11:27
dmb062082gentoo bleh11:28
abydosI'm running one hoary machine and one mongrel-sarge-etch11:28
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dooglusabydos: ubuntu can play mp3s now, and view flash on the web?11:28
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terjeguess I'll have to install from the CD and see if that'll fix it.11:28
abydosdooglus:  My ubuntu can, because I set it up properly11:28
vader1102oracel, mine even did my wireless out of the box....no further download or setup11:28
abydosdooglus:  same with java11:28
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dooglusabydos: all from 1 cd?11:28
dmb062082abydos what about offline sql/php enviornments?11:28
terjeI can't even downgrade back to hoary11:28
oracelvader1102, so will mine when the 2.6.14 kernel is out :D11:28
abydosdooglus:  okay, that's not *technically* required for desktop operation11:28
oracel:D:D:D11:28
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terjeglad I backed up my homedir11:29
dooglusabydos: neither's X11:29
abydosdmb062082:  I don't know, I don't use sql11:29
ramdiaz hello, can anyone help me:  i'm running breezy and it froze while doing an update, so when I rebooted I got a message about "show desktop" and "desktop switcher" and now I can't see my desktop switcher or any applications that are open (I have to alt+tab to change applications)11:29
dmb062082ok11:29
ninjafishI have gentoo on my desktop, I remember typing emerge update deepworld. I only had KDE and AmaROK and it took all weekend on a P411:29
oracelmy card is an exception though (the ipw2200), but there's an excellent howto for it11:29
vader1102oracel,  I have no idea, i AM STILL USING the old one11:29
abydosdooglus:  X is somewhat necessary for graphical browsers11:29
vader1102it is kool though11:29
erUSULramdiaz: have you completed the upgrade that brake everything11:29
microsoft_boblol!!!11:29
ramdiazlol i dont think so11:30
dooglusabydos: graphical browsers aren't *technically* required on a desktop PC.  you can use lynx.11:30
ramdiazit's just that one thing11:30
venzendmb062082: sql/php/apache works great11:30
DreezardI've got a little question concerning the new gnome environment. There is a adressbar that shows the place where I am, but you can't type sth in there. How can I change to the "kde-styled-adressbar" where you can type the location I want to go to?11:30
dooglusthey're expected, and so's the ability to play mp3 files.11:30
dmb062082venzen does that come with the kubuntu release?11:30
abydosninjafish:  I remember when I ran gentoo.  Then I turned 16 and said "I don't ahve the time to spend 5 hours to save 15 seconds on startup of every app."11:30
jc-dentonand hey11:30
jc-dentonswapon /dev/hda3 does now work11:30
abydosdooglus:  at least it is simple enough to add mp3 support.11:30
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venzendmb062082: dunno - i am on ubuntu standard11:31
dmb062082gentoo is no fun man when you have a pc with 64 megs of ram....11:31
jc-dentoni guess this is related to udev11:31
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jc-dentonhow do i enable swap on ubuntu11:31
dmb062082im at 128 now but damn the install was like 3 days11:31
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abydosdmb062082:  terminate that sentence before "man." and it's true11:31
ramdiazso anyone know if I can edit any gnome startup files to show my desktop switcher and toolbar?11:31
erUSULjc-denton: add the swap partition to fstab run swapon -a11:31
dmb062082heh11:32
jc-dentonerUSUL: that's what i did11:32
jc-dentoni'm not that stupid11:32
abydosmy mongrel machine (it *was* debian sarge, then idiot me forgot to modify sources.list before mindlessly updating11:32
abydosand it's now like...11:32
abydossetch11:32
jc-denton< root@nx7010:~ # swapon -a11:32
jc-dentonswapon: /dev/hda3: Invalid argument11:32
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venzenramdiaz: rightclick on bottom panel and add...11:32
abydosor etge11:32
erUSULjc-denton: you have run mkswap /dev/xxx, have not you?11:32
dmb06208214.3 of 655.5 MB at 7.7 KB/sec; 23:03:12 remain11:32
dooglusI just remembered why I came here...  whenever I run an X app, I see stuff like: "(gnome-terminal:7021): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib".  any idea how I can fix that?11:32
dmb062082this does suck11:32
jc-dentonerUSUL: of course11:33
jc-denton/dev/hda3           76531       77520      498960   82  Linux swap / Solaris11:33
jc-denton[4340788.391000]  Unable to find swap-space signature11:33
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dooglusI have LANG=en_GB and LANGUAGE=en_GB:en11:33
jc-dentonwhat does that mean?11:33
ninjafishthing is I bet the vast majority of people use the default USE flags anyway, therefore only 1 of them needs to compile it from source. just change arch to 686.11:33
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dmb062082well thanks for the time and help11:34
dmb062082i need to go read up on the cowboys, x360 and drink a few beers11:35
abydosmust be nice11:35
abydosi'm gonna go look for a job11:35
dmb062082?11:35
dmb062082haha11:35
ramdiazawesome, thanks venzen11:35
dmb062082im taking the nys c.o. civil service exam soon11:35
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dmb062082cant wait11:35
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erUSULjc-denton: i do not know maybe the mkswap was not right try again11:36
dmb062082i also need a job... bad11:36
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dmb062082later11:36
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dooglusanybody?11:36
fonskensometimes :)11:36
dmb062082emm en11:37
ChazZhas anyone else had problems with their computer randomly powering down every now and then?11:37
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ninjafishdooglas, english????11:37
ninjafishas in british english11:37
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fonskenChazZ, nothing in /var/log/messages or so?11:37
dooglusninjafish: what are you asking me?11:37
ChazZi haven't checked11:37
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venzenChazZ: is it your pc or your electricity company?11:38
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dmb062082my only pc problems are not having adobe and macromedia development support on linux =(11:38
ChazZit's the pc definitely11:38
jc-dentonerUSUL: u know udev?11:38
ChazZi'll check the logs11:38
erUSULChazZ: no but it seems hardware problem11:38
dmb062082if i had those apps on linux, i would never need windows again11:38
dooglusninjafish: I'm English, as in British English if that's what you're asking.11:38
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dmb062082ok i must leave now bye11:38
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dooglusninjafish: and so's my locale, if that's what you're asking.11:38
erUSULjc-denton: probably not enough11:38
zeroth_Hi, it says "E: Couldn't find package bluefish" when I type "apt-get install bluefish". Any ideas?11:38
axlWhich pokerclient (for online poker) works with ubuntu?11:38
jc-dentonlol11:39
jc-dentonit works now11:39
jc-dentonbut very strange11:39
mjraxl, pokerroom.com's java thingy works if you install jre/jdk11:39
jc-dentoni did this some days ago11:39
oraceloh whoa11:39
oracelhey guys11:39
zeroth_Also, what's a good a FTP client?11:39
oracelnevermind what I said about my wireless card11:39
ben42zeroth_ wich repositories do you use? universe?11:39
jc-dentonis there anything special i need to tell ubuntu to work with my swap partition11:39
venzengftyp11:39
axlzeroth_: gftp11:39
oracelit's supported indeed, out of the box11:39
oracelman11:39
venzen*gftp11:39
doogluszeroth_: /usr/bin/ftp is very stable11:39
ninjafishdooglus, hang on I am looking into your problem11:39
zeroth_ben42, repositories?11:39
oracelthose ubuntu devs deserve a big thank you from me11:39
oracelthis is awesome11:39
jc-dentoni think i forgot to set up when i installed ubuntu11:39
jc-dentoni run breezy11:39
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doogluszeroth_: very lightweight too11:39
zeroth_Ok, cool.11:40
zeroth_ben42, explain the concept of repositories?11:40
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ben42zeroth_ uncomment the universe-part in /etc/apt/sources.list11:41
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cafuego_jc-denton: Just add it to /etc/fstab11:41
erUSUL!tell zeroth_ about repos11:41
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jc-dentoncafuego_: yes i did that11:41
ChazZah well i'll probably just reinstall or switch back to fedora or something if this problem keeps up11:41
ben42zeroth_ i will send you a link11:41
cafuego_jc-denton: then 'sudo swapon -a' and voila.11:41
jc-denton/dev/hda3               none            swap            sw                              0       011:41
zeroth_Ok, thanks.11:41
jc-dentoncafuego_: yes i know11:41
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jc-dentonbut i have strange problemes here11:41
dooglusninjafish: this is in breezy, if that's relevant11:41
venzenChazZ: hold on hold on.. fedora will do the same...11:41
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jc-dentonprobably related to the breezy kernel..11:42
ChazZi didn't have that problem when i was using it before though11:42
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cafuego_Such as?11:42
ben42zeroth_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniversePackages?highlight=%28universe%2911:42
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ninjafishdooglus, ahh. do you have language-support-en?11:42
venzenChazZ: what ubuntu version are u using?11:42
ChazZhoary11:42
venzenChazZ: and what do your logs say?11:42
jc-dentondoes udev change anything in the way linux handles swap?11:42
cafuego_nope11:43
dooglusninjafish: notice that it happens for simple programs like xclock, and for other locales:11:43
doogluschris@chrislap:~$ LANG=en_US /usr/bin/xclock11:43
dooglusWarning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C11:43
cafuego_jc-denton: if you used LVM there may be oddness, but udev doesn't affect swap.11:43
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jc-dentonwell thx4tring to help11:43
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jc-dentoni dont use lvm11:43
jc-dentonanyaway11:43
dooglusninjafish: I don't have any language-support packages.  will get it.11:43
jc-dentoni go to bed, n811:43
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cafuego_who is nate?11:44
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dooglusninjafish: I can't see that it can possibly help though - it's only for openoffice, ispell and other such programs.  not for xclock...11:44
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__filip_i have write this in fstab: /dev/hda6 /media/hda6 vfat rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0  i cant write in hda6. what should i write?11:44
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ninjafishdooglas language-pack-en11:46
erUSUL__filip_: i bet that the culprit is fmask try 002211:46
venzenfilip: create a directory in /media - eg. 'sudo mkdir /media/disk6'11:46
dooglusninjafish: I just installed it.  it didn't help.11:46
erUSULor simply defaults11:46
doogluschris@chrislap:~$ LANG=en_US /usr/bin/xclock11:46
dooglusWarning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C11:46
__filip_venzen: why?11:46
erUSUL__filip_: or simply rw,user,defaults11:47
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venzenfilip: then replace /media/hda6 with /media/disk6 in fstab..11:47
erUSUL__filip_: it works (tm)11:47
__filip_venzen: i dont whant that11:47
venzenfilip do you have a dir called hda6 in /media ?11:47
reikianyone got time to help me troubleshoot trying to get my mic to record?11:47
__filip_yes11:47
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__filip_/dev/hda6 /media/hda6 vfat rw,user,defaults 0 0 that is the line now, it is right or?11:48
zeroth_What's the equivalent of WinKey + M?11:48
erUSULvenzen: it does *not* matter where you mount the partition i can't see your point11:48
venzenfilip: ok... ireread your post above.11:48
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erUSUL__filip_: yes11:48
zeroth_I mean... How to minimize all windows?11:48
transgressherm.  okay i can't use fglrxconfig to configure X anymore11:48
ninjafishdooglus echo $LC_ALL into the paste bin11:48
transgressbut if i use dpkg-reconfigure i can get X working on breezy11:48
venzenzeroth - click on the desktop icon bottom left11:49
transgressbut it doesn't allow me to get firegl instead of mesa for 3daccel11:49
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__filip_erUSUL: does i need to do somethink more? unmount it and then mount it?11:49
transgressany tips?11:49
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erUSUL__filip_: yes11:49
DiffindoHey11:49
__filip_erUSUL: what is the command?11:49
DiffindoI can't connect to certain IRC networks with XChat11:50
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dooglusninjafish: I can echo it here, but you wouldn't see it.  the output is invisible11:50
venzenerUSUL: does rw,user,defaults make sense ?11:50
dooglusninjafish: I don't have anything called LC_ALL in my environment11:50
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erUSULvenzen: yes is what i use rw,user,defaults,noauto11:51
ninjafishdooglus, my mistake, echo $LANG11:51
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venzenerUSUL: cool11:51
jontizses pojkar *vink*11:51
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erUSULvenzen: i do not want this partitions mounted on boot11:51
erUSULvenzen: so i use noauto11:52
dooglusninjafish: I'm setting LANG on the command line.  that overrides any environmental setting11:52
venzenerUZUL - hence noauto11:52
dooglusninjafish: I'm running    LANG=en_US /usr/bin/xclock11:52
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ai-2the sound is not working in vlc is there anything i can do to make it work?11:52
venzenfilip: 'sudo umount /media/hda6' then 'sudo mount /media/hda6'11:53
erUSULvenzen: with the user option any user can mount the partition no need to sudo11:53
__filip_i cant write in them anyway?11:53
venzenthanks erUZUL11:54
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erUSULvenzen: if you mounted the partition as root the files in it will be owned by root. You have to mount it as your user11:54
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venzenerUSUL: i have /home mounted as root...!11:55
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DiffindoI need some info on Windows Emulation11:55
erUSULbut home is not a vfat filesystem i bet11:55
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venzenerUSUL - true11:55
dooglusninjafish: I'm going to have to reboot, but I'll stay in this channel.  So if you have any ideas, tell me here and I'll read them later.  If I don't see anything that fixes it, I'll raise a bug in bugzilla (heaven knows what against - possibly xorg?) later.11:55
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DiffindoWhat are the best windows Emulators for gaming?11:56
zeroth_Where is "Home"? As in the default dir for firefox downloads?11:56
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ben42Diffindo  http://www.transgaming.com/latest_news.php11:56
ninjafishdooglus before you go11:57
venzenerUSUL so u saying user is for use w/ vfat ?11:57
ben42Diffindo cedega11:57
venzenzeroth: ask again but differently11:57
erUSULa vfat can not keep permisions so the system fakes them. The user who mount the vfat owns every file in it11:57
Diffindoben42: thanks11:57
zeroth_venzen, eh?11:57
zeroth_Found it, nn.11:57
ai-2hello could someone please tell me how to fix the audi/sound problem with vlc? i dont have any sound.11:57
venzenzeroth - u asked abt 'home'11:58
zeroth_I did.11:58
ninjafishlook quickly at /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/local.alias11:58
erUSULvenzen: only if you want that every user could mount the partition11:58
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erUSULvenzen: you can list specific users in fstab11:58
venzenerUSUL: i'm glad to learn about that! abt 2 yrs ago i was freakin out with this problem... now I don't use vfat anymore11:59
venzenerUSUL: but useful info thanks11:59
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