[12:00] <ProdegyX> Heylo Everyone
[12:00] <topyli> angryfix: you can of course set up your home dir so no-one can see inside
[12:00] <angryfix> haha, there is always a way in unix, but i'm just experienced enough. He's connecting via SSH...i there a way to limit him through just SSH?
[12:00] <angryfix> topyli: how can i do that?
[12:00] <ProdegyX> Denada Comos De Losat
[12:00] <malky> you can use chroot to do it
[12:00] <Peps> my uhdcpd.conf says 'start 192.168.126.160\n end   192.168.126.169\n interface eth0'
[12:00] <ompaul> angryfix, have a look at this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/349599
[12:00] <ProdegyX> Can anyone please explain how to install a new theme
[12:01] <sorush20>  when I type hdparm /dev/hdc it takes a long time to return the results and just as I change the details for the hda as mentioned by HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument
[12:01] <crimsun> angryfix: why not just chmod 700 the top-level dir that you don't want him to have access to?
[12:01] <ProdegyX> It says I need to Compile it first
[12:01] <Peps> can anyone help with udhcpd?
[12:01] <angryfix> crimsun: simple solution to the home folder, but I wanted to lock him out of everything,but his folder.
[12:01] <topyli> angryfix: chmod your home dir to some more nazi. but beware, your ~/public_html and such won't be available either then
[12:02] <AMIGrAve> Is there a command line tool in ubuntu which allow to list tags in a flac file ?
[12:02] <crimsun> angryfix: no, meant if he still needs access to ~angryfix, allow him that, but chmod 700 ~angryfix/private_stuff
[12:02] <nerdy2> AMIGrAve, man metaflac
[12:02] <crimsun> AMIGrAve: metaflac
[12:02] <angryfix> oh ok
[12:02] <AMIGrAve> thanks dudes
[12:03] <Peps> can anyone help with udhcpd?
[12:04] <Peps> can anyone help with udhcpd setup?
[12:04] <cevizoglu> does anyone know a way to make xorg invert all pixels on the screen before rending to the display?
[12:04] <cevizoglu> s/rending/rendering
[12:05] <roadeur> Bonsoir
[12:05] <cyberwarrior> hi again
[12:05] <Peps> can anyone help with udhcpd setup?
[12:06] <malky> cevizoglu: don't see any, except putting that feature into the code and compiling it of cource :/
[12:06] <malky> err: course
[12:06] <cevizoglu> malky: ok
[12:06] <topyli> angryfix: better yet, if you have other users you don't want to discriminate: put these other users in a group named "angryfix-trusted" and give them more rights than your new friend
[12:06] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, yeap, got a specific question?
[12:06] <Krille> malky: is that all there is to getting a static IP on a *nix machine ?
[12:07] <cyberwarrior> ompaul: i hope so
[12:07] <malky> ifconfig ?
[12:07] <cyberwarrior> ompual: i get two errors
[12:07] <opo> I have install a program (solfege) through apt and have been getting an error "ImportError: No Module named gtk2html2" when I run it, I have tried install libgtkhtml2-0 package with no luck. Any mind helping me out?
[12:07] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, tell the channel, I may not have the answer and you putting my name in there may mean that someone else thinks your being looked after
[12:07] <cyberwarrior> can;t open debian-installer.d/s72..... and *ror temporary failure in name resolution
[12:07] <malky> opo : it's  a python module that misses
[12:08] <cyberwarrior> those two errors
[12:08] <Peps> can anyone help with udhcpd setup?
[12:08] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, what kind of box, PC/mac or
[12:08] <opo> malky : how do I absolve this problem?
[12:08] <cyberwarrior> Pc intel
[12:08] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, what processor
[12:08] <pybe> Peps: http://udhcp.busybox.net/README.udhcpd
[12:08] <cyberwarrior> intel p3
[12:08] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, ram?
[12:08] <cyberwarrior> 128
[12:09] <cyberwarrior> 128 Mb ram
[12:09] <thrush> opo: two hail marys and three our fathers
[12:09] <concept10> this is really irking me:  somehow I have made my controls (minimize, etc.) in gnome smaller than normal.. anyone know how to fix this?
[12:09] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, that is okay
[12:09] <cyberwarrior> k
[12:09] <Krille> aactiually, i think the IP was stored
[12:09] <opo> thrush : cry :-(
[12:09] <sorush20> guys I keep getting stalled.
[12:09] <malky> opo : is it gtk2html or gtk2html2 ?
[12:10] <cyberwarrior> ompaul: everything goes ok but after sometime the screen goes blank
[12:10] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, okay did you just hit enter at the start of the install and it failed?
[12:10] <opo> gtkhtml2 aparently
[12:10] <cyberwarrior> no, read above
[12:10] <Peps> pybe: nothing there that is not on the man page. Is there another option for a server that will let me debug?
[12:10] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, let me rephrase that, you go through several motions and it fails or is it at the reboot?
[12:11] <cyberwarrior> it doesn't fail
[12:11] <cyberwarrior> i just get a blank screen
[12:11] <cyberwarrior> and it doesn't change
[12:11] <Krille> uh, i got one last question before i fall asleep, its quite easy to answer i believe
[12:11] <ompaul> that is a failure when does it happen?
[12:11] <cyberwarrior> i see the orange/blank screen
[12:11] <Krille> if i do a reinstall from CD, and i have quite a lot of media on the HD today ... can i do that without formatting, and saving the media ?
[12:11] <cyberwarrior> then it loads some thing with   [ok] 
[12:11] <cyberwarrior> like that
[12:11] <pybe> Peps: never used it and from the response from the room no one else has either
[12:12] <Krille> i dont care about any installed software or so, i dont have anything important ... but i dont wanna format the drive
[12:12] <cyberwarrior> and then i get a blank screen with an underscore
[12:12] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, okay one last time, does it do this 'failure' at a reboot after an install or is it during the first install?
[12:12] <Peps> pybe: which is the recommended dhcp server for ubuntu?
[12:12] <cyberwarrior> after install
[12:12] <cyberwarrior> when it loads everything
[12:12] <sorush20> cp is for copy mkdir make direcroty what about deleting a file what is the command for that..
[12:12] <opo> rm
[12:13] <sm-mile> sorush20, if you want to delete all files in directory use *
[12:13] <cyberwarrior> ompaul: do you need to reboot after an install in a liveCD?
[12:13] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, your using a liveCD
[12:13] <ompaul> ahh
[12:13] <cyberwarrior> yeah
[12:13] <chromate> are there any visualizers available for amarok?
[12:13] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, well it is not an install if your using a live CD
[12:13] <sm-mile> sorush20, and if you want to remove all files either in subfolders use flag -r (recursevly)
[12:14] <cyberwarrior> :O
[12:14] <cyberwarrior> sorry about that
[12:14] <sorush20> how to remoe
[12:14] <sm-mile> or use manual
[12:14] <swab79> sorush20: take a look at this http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/index.html
[12:14] <pybe> Peps: probably dhcpd
[12:14] <sm-mile> man rm
[12:14] <sm-mile> type man rm
[12:14] <Krille> goodnight
[12:14] <Krille> and thanks for the help!
[12:15] <shadeofgrey> how do i add the marliatt repos. in my sources.list file?
[12:15] <cyberwarrior> ompaul: do you know about liveCD
[12:15] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, do you get to choose a video card type when booting?
[12:15] <cyberwarrior> ompaul: no
[12:15] <topyli> shadeofgrey: the question is: why would i add christian's repos in my sources.list
[12:16] <sm-mile> shadeofgrey, emacs sources.list
[12:16] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, I use them now and again - so I can't remember what it does :-/
[12:16] <cyberwarrior> ompaul: lol
[12:16] <sm-mile> :_
[12:16] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, which type of ubuntu are you using?
[12:16] <cyberwarrior> ubuntu.com/download/intel/x86/
[12:16] <opo> malkly? did ya die? I'm getting worried
[12:16] <shadeofgrey> no - i know how to edit the file...  i cut and pasted the following line into my sources.list file and got a dist-parse error
[12:17] <cyberwarrior> ompaul: liveCD, i downloaded it from ubuntu.com
[12:17] <topyli> shadeofgrey: what exactly do you want from his repository?
[12:17] <shadeofgrey>  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
[12:17] <nfinitep1astik> shadeofgrey: did you update?
[12:17] <sm-mile> shadeofgrey, could be that ya
[12:18] <shadeofgrey> im interested in adding the win32codecs to my installatiuon...  i need to be able to view windows media streams for a class im taking -- i need windows media support, and quicktime
[12:18] <Seveas> shadeofgrey, don't use nerim
[12:18] <Seveas> w32codecs are in hoary-extras too
[12:18] <Seveas> or even better: get them at the mplayer site
[12:19] <shadeofgrey> im running breezy tho
[12:19] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, would you care to give me the full url ( I suspect you got to hoary but am not sure) what kind of video card have you got there?
[12:19] <sm-mile> emulate windows and run on windows :)
[12:19] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, how big is your video card?
[12:19] <cyberwarrior> ompaul: i use ATI radeon mad dog 128 mb
[12:19] <Daemonic> does ubuntu use the regular /etc/exports file for nfs shares? I ask because it doesn't exist in /etc/ and was wondering if it is located somewhere else or if I need to create it.
[12:19] <topyli> shadeofgrey: again, i'd only encourage you to get something like w32codecs and such stuff from him. disable the repository after that, there may be bad dependency conflicts later otherwise. stick to ubuntu packages whenever you can
[12:20] <shadeofgrey> okay...  guys i dont care how i get it done - i just serarched the ubuntu forums and the best match for what i searched for was a forum post specifying that it was only possiible to get winsows medsia player and quicktime support thru marliatt or whatever.
[12:20] <shadeofgrey> so
[12:20] <topyli> Daemonic: there is no file because you have no shares yet :)
[12:20] <selinium> what is the easiest way to search my system for where I put a .sf2 file?
[12:20] <Daemonic> topyli: hmm.. I thought that is where I defined them.
[12:21] <Daemonic> topyli: at least it was like that in slackware.
[12:21] <shadeofgrey> all i need to know is how do i enable windows media player support and quicktimer support and .asf support to my breezy installation?
[12:21] <topyli> Daemonic: yes
[12:21] <Daemonic> topyli: ok, so I need to create the file.
[12:21] <topyli> Daemonic: yes
[12:21] <Daemonic> topyli: I just assumed there would be a template there
[12:21] <ubuntu_> snap
[12:21] <cyberwarrior> ompaul: my video card is compatible?
[12:21] <selinium> Hi Seveas
[12:22] <ds[de] > selinium: Places(or whatever it is called in english) -> search for files -> name contains *.sf2
[12:22] <opo> I have installed a program (solfege) through apt and have been getting an error "ImportError: No Module named gtkhtml2" when I run it, I have tried install libgtkhtml2-0 package with no luck. Anyone mind helping me out?
[12:22] <topyli> shadeofgrey: you can either download w32codecs from there, or enable the repository temporarily (there may be other cool things you might want as well :) ) but don't leave it enabled forever
[12:22] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, I want you to try something, reboot the machine and tell it you want to run a 'server' do this by following the instruction to type server at the first screen, after if it insists on you choosing something make it a mail server - see if it finishes booting - let me know how you get on with that
[12:22] <Seveas> hi selinium
[12:22] <swab79> shadeofgrey: isnt mplayer in universe?  should come with all codecs
[12:22] <sm-mile> shadeofgrey, cant you play all that types of file in mediaplayer ? .. well i dont know cuzz i dont watch movies
[12:22] <selinium> ds[de] , Got it! Cheers
[12:23] <swab79> i cant remember where i got mplayer from
[12:23] <nfinitep1astik> shadeofgrey: why not vlc?
[12:23] <selinium> Any one know how to speed up ripping in soundjuicer? I am only getting 1.8x and it is taking forever!
[12:23] <cyberwarrior> ompaul: ok, i am using the breezy badger thing
[12:23] <sm-mile> shadeofgrey, do you have mediaplayer ?
[12:23] <sm-mile> shadeofgrey, mplayer ?
[12:24] <cyberwarrior> ompaul: i will need to sign off cuz i have only 1 comp.
[12:24] <shadeofgrey> i think so
[12:24] <Seveas> selinium, dma?
[12:24] <ompaul> swab79, cyberwarrior np
[12:24] <sm-mile> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html
[12:24] <shadeofgrey> no
[12:24] <shadeofgrey> i have totem
[12:24] <sm-mile> that suck
[12:24] <selinium> Seveas: I am pretty sure i did that, how do i check?>
[12:24] <shadeofgrey> would installing totem-xine do the trick?
[12:24] <cyberwarrior> ompaul: breezy badger is better or the hoary ?
[12:24] <sm-mile> all you have to do
[12:24] <ompaul> swab79, apt-cache policy mplayer-386
[12:24] <Seveas> hdparm -d /dev/drive
[12:24] <sm-mile> is to compile mplayer on your sistem
[12:25] <Seveas> cyberwarrior, hoary is more stable, breezy is more recent (but not yet released)
[12:25] <cyberwarrior> damn
[12:25] <cyberwarrior> i downloaded the wrong one
[12:25] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, for your purposes I doubt it - I think you may be pushing the reqirements a tad with the ram
[12:25] <topyli> sm-mile: i don't understand the mplayer buzz. i'm happy with totem-xine
[12:25] <Seveas> nonsense sm-mile no one needs to compile mplayer -- it's in the repositories...
[12:25] <Seveas> topyli, mplayers filters are cool :)
[12:25] <swab79> breezy multiverse...
[12:25] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, if you had double that ram ~I would not be thinking this but it might just be a tad tight for live CD
[12:26] <sm-mile> topyli, i am happy with mplayer :) never tried totem
[12:26] <topyli> Seveas: of course sometimes you want mencoder too
[12:26] <cyberwarrior> ompaul:  ok ... do you use hoary version?
[12:26] <nfinitep1astik> i think totem rather sucks compared to mplayer or vlc
[12:26] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, no, but then again no computer here is using live
[12:27] <topyli> sm-mile: i'm sure mplayer works, i've tested it myself. :) i just prefer something more gnome'y
[12:27] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, I have used hoary and breezy live
[12:27] <ompaul> and I will use dapper when it is available
[12:27] <sameat> What's Dapper?
[12:27] <selinium> Seveas, it is enabled, what about using hdparm -E32  ?
[12:27] <Lunar_Lamp> ok - i don't get it - i was setting up wireless card using RaConfig - not having much success - then it crashed on me and i had to restart the computer.  Now ehen i try to open RaConfig it says "device not found"
[12:28] <ompaul> sameat, it will be after breezy, at this time a name, in the future it will be software
[12:28] <topyli> !start a mediaplayer war
[12:28] <ubotu> topyli: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[12:28] <ompaul> !lart topyli
[12:28] <sm-mile> topyli, gnomer
[12:28] <Lethal-Rocks> !lart himself
[12:28] <Lethal-Rocks> damn
[12:28] <topyli> how do you teach ubotu to start new wars? =)
[12:29] <Lethal-Rocks> !lart himself
[12:29] <khermans> Anyone get ndiswrapper working in Breezy?
[12:29] <Seveas> selinium, ask a driveguru, I still need to read the hdparm manpage :D
[12:29] <Seveas> don't play with the bot...
[12:29] <ompaul> topyli, first civilian casualty in the media player war of '05
[12:29] <topyli> also, ubotu's lart function needs a BFG-9000 option
[12:29] <Lethal-Rocks> lol
[12:30] <Lethal-Rocks> Yeah
[12:30] <Lethal-Rocks> !lart himself
[12:30] <oscarh> hi! is anyone having trouble getting beagle to run?
[12:30] <oscarh> in breezy
[12:30] <oscarh> ?
[12:30] <Lethal-Rocks> Yes
[12:30] <khermans> ndiswrapper wont compile for me
[12:30] <MarcN> oscarh: I've not had a problem.
[12:30] <Lethal-Rocks> Only I'm having trouble nin hoary
[12:30] <selinium> Seveas, not too many of them about, i have been trying all day! (23:00 now)   :)
[12:30] <oscarh> MarcN, it might be me then
[12:30] <Lunar_Lamp> ok - i don't get it - i was setting up wireless card using RaConfig2400 - not having much success - then it crashed on me and i had to restart the computer.  Now when i try to open RaConfig2400 it says "device driver not found"
[12:30] <oscarh> MarcN, mono does not find gtk2 dlls
[12:30] <MarcN> oscarh: I used someone's backport repository to first try beagle on hoary and just this morning upgraded to 'breezy'.
[12:31] <Lethal-Rocks> Lunar_Lamp, is it USB?
[12:31] <Lunar_Lamp> Lethal-Rocks, no
[12:31] <mkyb14> is there a webalizer for debian???????
[12:31] <MarcN> oscarh: works on breezy too.  Try running beagled --fg --debug to see what you get.
[12:31] <oscarh> MarcN, or, really, glib
[12:31] <Lethal-Rocks> Lunar_Lamp, are you sure it's 400 and not 500?
[12:31] <Lunar_Lamp> Lethal-Rocks, yes - heh
[12:31] <MarcN> oscarh: what about glibc?
[12:31] <oscarh> MarcN, glibc?
[12:32] <Seveas> glib isn't glibc....
[12:32] <Lethal-Rocks> Lunar_Lamp, the rt drivers are unstable I have a rt2570-based adapter and it sometimes crashes as soon as I enable it
[12:32] <oscarh> MarcN, it cannot find glib-2.0
[12:32] <Lunar_Lamp> :-(
[12:32] <khermans> cant build ndiswrapper -- get this --> make[2] : dh_testdir: Command not found
[12:32] <mkyb14> is there a webalizer for debian???????
[12:32] <oscarh> MarcN, mono bindings
[12:32] <ompaul> mkyb14, well if you do this >> apt-cache search webalizer << (and ask only once)
[12:32] <mkyb14> ok
[12:33] <cyberwarrior> ompaul: what does the preview breezy badger include?
[12:33] <Seveas> cyberwarrior, extreme coolness :D
[12:33] <Lunar_Lamp> well - i guess i'll soldier on with wired for the moment Lethal-Rocks  - i'm moving house for a year tommorrow - so i will set it up so i can get wired hopefully
[12:33] <cyberwarrior> seveas: like what..
[12:33] <cafuego_> cyberwarrior: Everything Hoary includes as well.
[12:33] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, read the wiki - and you will find all sorts of stuff
[12:33] <mkyb14> ok it found it but won't install it
[12:33] <mkyb14> ?
[12:33] <MarcN> oscarh: which glib package is giving you problems?
[12:33] <cyberwarrior> ok
[12:33] <ompaul> !tell cyberwarrior about breezy
[12:33] <Lethal-Rocks> Lunar_Lamp, That's what I have to do, except I don't have a NIC, i use the ADSL modem :(
[12:33] <duffman25> Hi, I get a strange error message with an gnome icon set I was using that it's not working now. I get an  Failed to load image...  Details: unrecognized file format. on startup. This worked perfectly before. Any ideas?
[12:33] <Seveas> cyberwarrior, gnome 2.12 for instance
[12:34] <Seveas> and a modular X, gcc4, gcj, java, usplash...
[12:34] <venzen> mkyb14: what error reports?
[12:34] <bz0b> hey all
[12:34] <cyberwarrior> like it's a copy of hoary
[12:34] <cyberwarrior> and other stuff as well
[12:34] <bz0b> have anyone of you noticed that the developers are coming out with like 100MB+ of updates a day?
[12:34] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, read the stuff ubotu told you on my behalf
[12:34] <mkyb14> mkyb14@ubuntu:~$ apt-cache search webalizer
[12:34] <cyberwarrior> remember i am talking baout breezy badger preview*
[12:34] <mkyb14> libroxen-kiwilogger - Cern HTTPd compatible logging module module for the Roxen Challenger web server
[12:34] <mkyb14> modlogan - A modular logfile analyzer
[12:34] <Mellar_> I'm trying to install gcc on Ubuntu, but it asks for the CD-rom. I've deleted the CD-rom line from sourceslist, and I'm trying to add it again with the apt-setup command, but apt-setup won't recognice the CD as an Ubuntu CD 00:24:17 < Mellar_> are there any ways to make it recognize the CD as an Ubuntu CD, or an easy way to install gcc and avoid this problem?
[12:34] <mkyb14> webalizer - Web server log analysis program
[12:34] <mkyb14> webmin-webalizer - webalizer control module for webmin
[12:34] <oscarh> MarcN, the problem is beagled reporting System.DllNotFoundException: glib-2.0
[12:34] <mkyb14> awstats - powerful and featureful web server log analyzer
[12:34] <Seveas> FOOL
[12:35] <cyberwarrior> ompaul: i am opening the URL.. dial up:(:(:(
[12:35] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here
[12:35] <duffman25> Hi, I get a strange error message with an gnome icon set I was using that it's not working now. I get an  Failed to load image...  Details: unrecognized file format. on startup. This worked perfectly before. Any ideas?
[12:35] <cafuego_> cyberwarrior: Yes, it includes everything you need to run a desktop machine and be productive. Just has higher version numbers.
[12:35] <bz0b> hahahahahahha
[12:35] <oscarh> MarcN, i guess it's just a matter of finding the package, but which?
[12:35] <ompaul> bz0b, that is what can happen with a development software
[12:35] <BlueEagle> mellar_: Did you apt-get update after removing the cd from your sources?
[12:35] <bz0b> ompaul, i see, cause i am on breezy and it seems like i am constantly upgrading] 
[12:35] <ompaul> bz0b, that is what can happen with a development platform of software - all bets are off until the release and then they are just side bets
[12:35] <jackass> what will be better windows vista or ubuntu dupper drake
[12:35] <Lethal-Rocks> Ubuntu, duh
[12:35] <Mellar_> BlueEagle: yes, I did that
[12:36] <Seveas> jackass, what do you expect as answer when you ask in here?
[12:36] <BlueEagle> mellar_: Well, then it should not be asking for the cd. :/
[12:36] <ompaul> jackass, you have that name, why?
[12:36] <Seveas> and Dapper Drake will toast Vista
[12:36] <ompaul> warty will toast vista
[12:36] <apokryphos> Seveas: all 7 versions of it!
[12:36] <topyli> ok, it's late. i'm going to bed. there, i will go to sleep. in sleep, i will dream of la-la-land, where everybody agrees with me. that's nice, much better than #ubuntu, where nasty people disagree with me =)
[12:36] <Seveas> apokryphos, the 7-headed Dapper Drake will have no problem with 7 buggy unsafe Vistas :)
[12:37] <venzen> hello boogie
[12:37] <bz0b> jackass, windows vista is crap, if you want to know the truth, longhorn(vista), was supposed to be released when a computers bare minimum had 2gb ram, and like 4.5ghz processors
[12:37] <apokryphos> Seveas: I wonder if Dapper will be drawn as a pilot; had an odd image of him as that.
[12:37] <duffman25> I've tried to recreate the icon cache but didn't worked
[12:37] <BlueEagle> I read that the breezy install cd might be a live-cd with installation features. Is there any truth to that in the preview .iso?
[12:37] <boogie> the problem with most linux distributions is that ext3 is default, it's really not fast enough, i wish reiser 4 was ready
[12:37] <duffman25> I'm out of ideas
[12:37] <oscarh> MarcN, any idea?
[12:37] <duffman25> :(
[12:38] <venzen> many apps don't support reiser4 - eg beagle
[12:38] <bz0b> how is ext3 slow?
[12:38] <ompaul> apokryphos, tell the art team about it :)
[12:38] <topyli> ext3 is not slow
[12:38] <nfinitep1astik> bzob: it's inefficient in handling small files sizes
[12:38] <Seveas> bz0b, it's conservative, not slow
[12:38] <boogie> bz0b - have you seen any comparison reviews of the filesystems?
[12:38] <nalioth> bz0b: you as a human wont notice much difference
[12:38] <venzen> Mellar: try dselect to ad CD
[12:38] <MarcN> oscarh: I was helping kids with homework.  I'm back.
[12:38] <bz0b> nalioth, I see, well who says I am human?
[12:38] <oscarh> MarcN, oh, sorry
[12:38] <boogie> ext3 is reliable, but not good enough for big files
[12:39] <bz0b> nalioth, i am a bot with the mind of 100 humans
[12:39] <venzen> oscarh: good parent :)
[12:39] <MarcN> oscarh: try apt-get install libglib2.0
[12:39] <topyli> nfinitep1astik: you read that somewhere
[12:39] <apokryphos> ompaul: I might  just have to. :)
[12:39] <nalioth> bz0b: if you are not, be mindful of your place
[12:39] <Zaacc> hello I was wondering, can Ubuntu be installed onto a Pentuim-MMX 233 Mhz ? :)
[12:39] <opo> (yes)
[12:39] <bz0b> nalioth, jk, hehe :P
[12:39] <Seveas> bz0b, bots are not allowed here, beware :p
[12:39] <cyberwarrior> ompaul: you'r right... it's still under process...
[12:39] <ProdegyX> Hello everyone.
[12:39] <Seveas> Zaacc, yes it can
[12:39] <ProdegyX> I need help please.
[12:39] <Seveas> but you will want to install a lighter desktop than gnome
[12:39] <topyli> nfinitep1astik: you need to work in the real world and see if you trust beta stuff
[12:39] <venzen> mkyb14: why won't install?
[12:40] <ompaul> !tell ProdegyX about ask
[12:40] <duffman25> i need help please
[12:40] <Seveas> !tell duffman25 about ask
[12:40] <bz0b> ProdegyX, please dont ask for help just ask your question
[12:40] <nfinitep1astik> topyli: no need to beta test, just use what's reliable
[12:40] <bz0b> duffman25, , please dont ask for help just ask your question
[12:40] <ProdegyX> Ok I am trying to play mp3's on Linux what do I do.
[12:40] <MarcN> Zaacc: I have ubuntu running in a Pentium 300Mhz with ~256M (doesn't do much more than read email, blog webserver, etc)
[12:40] <topyli> nfinitep1astik: right
[12:40] <Seveas> !mp3
[12:40] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[12:40] <duffman25> I get a strange error message with an gnome icon set I was using that it's not working now. I get an  Failed to load image...  Details: unrecognized file format. on startup. This worked perfectly before. Any ideas?
[12:40] <Seveas> ^-- ProdegyX
[12:40] <oscarh> MarcN, libglib2.0-0 is already installed
[12:40] <Seveas> duffman25, recently switched to breezy?
[12:41] <duffman25> no
[12:41] <bz0b> duffman25, reformatt :-), jk, not sure
[12:41] <duffman25> I was using breezy
[12:41] <ompaul> duffman25, this may not be the result you want but >> killall nautilus << it will kill your session but could be good for you
[12:41] <boogie> is breezy stable enough now?
[12:41] <Zaacc> Seveas, I get the Debootstrap error and I've been told that my hardware is too old, I've tried everything that the forums has told me to try, I can't think of anything more to try :(
[12:41] <duffman25> already tried it
[12:41] <bz0b> boogie, yes, i am using it, and i am noob, imo
[12:41] <Seveas> duffman25, in breezy there is an icon-related bug, search the ubuntu-devel list for more info
[12:41] <Zaacc> I get the error at about 6% of installation
[12:41] <duffman25> it's the gnome-panel that doesn't load
[12:41] <cyberwarrior> have anybody tried preview breezy badger yet??
[12:41] <boogie> ok, i may try the preview
[12:41] <Seveas> Zaacc, a bit more info might help (like the complete error)
[12:42] <nalioth> cyberwarrior: yes lots of folks
[12:42] <cyberwarrior> where did you download it from?
[12:42] <nalioth> Zaacc: but not in there, paste it please
[12:42] <ompaul> boogie, I am using it, my wife is using it, and lots of others are, your call, it is development, that means in the morning it could all break badly, such is life
[12:42] <venzen> cyberwarrior: ubnuy downloads
[12:42] <opo> I hate to be repetative, but I have installed a program (solfege) through apt and have been getting an error "ImportError: No Module named gtkhtml2" when I run it, I have tried install libgtkhtml2-0 package with no luck. Anyone mind helping me out?
[12:43] <ompaul> cyberwarrior, cdimage.ubuntu.com
[12:43] <Chris> GAIM was working perfectly until my PC froze...then I had to shut the computer down and boot back up, now GAIM won't flash when people IM me
[12:43] <Seveas> cyberwarrior, you can simply upgrade to it
[12:43] <venzen> imean ubuntu downloads
[12:43] <MarcN> oscarh: http://nozell.com/tmp/glib.txt
[12:43] <bz0b> !hackers
[12:43] <ubotu> bz0b: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:43] <MarcN> oscarh: what I have installed
[12:43] <cyberwarrior> upgrade to what>
[12:43] <bz0b> !gypsies
[12:43] <ubotu> bz0b: I don't know
[12:43] <cyberwarrior> ?
[12:43] <bz0b> damn ubotu you are stupid!
[12:43] <boogie> ompaul what's your take on it, is it a big step forward from hoary?
[12:43] <ompaul> Seveas, cyberwarrior is using live CD and it is not starting for him, suggested he try server boot to check it - no idea if that worked for him - pIII 128 megs ram iirc
[12:43] <Seveas> opo, python2.4-gnome-extras
[12:44] <Quinthius> Chris: go into gaim prefs, make sure the system notification plugin is enabled, and set it to set URGENT on notifies
[12:44] <Seveas> opo, python2.4-gnome2-extras
[12:44] <opo> Seveas ( thanks )
[12:44] <Chris> Quinthius: It is.
[12:44] <ompaul> boogie, it works, its smoother, I don't notice too much but the visible changes are nice
[12:44] <Chris> It was even when I booted back up
[12:44] <Chris> it's just ignoring it
[12:44] <topyli> nfinitep1astik: alan and linus did not even want to support reiserfs. it went in because suse produced numbers such as "on our clients the failure rate has been this low"
[12:45] <cyberwarrior> slax is better or ubuntu?
[12:45] <boogie> is reiser4 even supported properly in the kerynel yet?
[12:45] <cyberwarrior> my fav. is slax
[12:45] <venzen> ubuntu
[12:45] <Burgundavia> boogie, no
[12:45] <nfinitep1astik> gentoo
[12:45] <ompaul> when reiser fries it fries well
[12:45] <khermans> I can't get the wifi device light to come on when i modprobe ndiswrapper
[12:45] <cyberwarrior> venzen: i can't rate it now. cuz mine doesn't work
[12:45] <oscarh> MarcN, libglib-cil seem to have done it
[12:45] <bz0b> boogie, slax is good! for live distro!
[12:45] <cyberwarrior> yeah
[12:45] <bz0b> very small
[12:45] <topyli> !start a file system war
[12:45] <ubotu> topyli: Are you on ritalin?
[12:45] <oscarh> MarcN, I guess cli is for command line interfac??!?
[12:45] <boogie> hmm slax, i'll look at the website
[12:45] <ompaul> nfinitep1astik, #gentoo is three doors down on the left when you leave this chat room
[12:46] <cyberwarrior> slax.com
[12:46] <bz0b> !start a prostitution sail in this war
[12:46] <ubotu> bz0b: Are you on ritalin?
[12:46] <MarcN> oscarh: I suppose.
[12:46] <boogie> looks nice, maybe because i love kde
[12:46] <cyberwarrior> yeah
[12:46] <bz0b> boogie, do you use kubuntu then?
[12:46] <Seveas> bz0b, topyli, don't play with the bot!
[12:46] <oscarh> MarcN, thanks anyway, now it seems to be running
[12:46] <bz0b> ubotu, yes, i am on ritalin
[12:46] <ubotu> bz0b: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:46] <duffman25> Seveas: I can't find anything related to a bug with icon, I'm searching the forum's develpment thread
[12:47] <bz0b> sorry Seveas
[12:47] <boogie> no i hate kubuntu, too many bugs, they slapped it on without testing it properly i feel, i'm prefer mepis
[12:47] <cyberwarrior> BRB
[12:47] <Seveas> duffman25, mailinglists aren't forums...
[12:47] <topyli> Seveas: i just think it's time to teach it some new flamewars to start :)
[12:47] <Seveas> topyli, i think it's time to stop messing with it...
[12:47] <cafuego_> !start a seveas war
[12:47] <ubotu> Seveas is an evil, grumpy old man!
[12:47] <bz0b> boogie, yes, mepis was nice, since it was small, i use to run a 40 box ltsp server running all clients with mepis, and server with gentoo
[12:48] <boogie> wow that's cool
[12:48] <Seveas>  /kick cafuego
[12:48] <bz0b> Seveas, the bot hates you!
[12:48] <Seveas> :p
[12:48] <topyli> heh
[12:48] <duffman25> Seveas: I can't find a search facility in http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/, do I have to look in each thread?
[12:49] <oscarh> MarcN, btw, i guess u are running breezy
[12:49] <cafuego_> ompaul: oi!
[12:49] <bz0b> cafuego, yummy!
[12:49] <boogie> anyone tried mercury? is there any decent program for linux or mac for getting video chat with yahoo or msn?
[12:49] <MarcN> oscarh: yeah.  Just upgraded my laptop.  Had a desktop running breezy for a week or so.
[12:49] <bz0b> boogie, its called gaim!
[12:50] <oscarh> MarcN, kernel 2.6.12?
[12:50] <bz0b> boogie, woops, nevermind, i am slow
[12:50] <ompaul> cafuego_, tar -jxvf oi! = what happened there :)
[12:50] <boogie> gaim has no video chat capabilities
[12:50] <MarcN> oscarh: yeah.
[12:50] <oscarh> MarcN, is hibernate working for you?
[12:50] <boogie> gaim-vv sucks
[12:50] <nalioth> whats the command for listing your hardware? *hw   <<somthing?
[12:50] <bz0b> boogie, its all about using a an .exe with wine!
[12:50] <bz0b> :p
[12:50] <MarcN> oscarh: It was under hoary after following some steps in the wiki.  Highly depends on your hw
[12:51] <boogie> lol, i would code it myself if i had time but i'm doing a masters so i don't :(
[12:51] <oscarh> MarcN, I'm using the 696 build and am getting some verison mismatch on restore from hibernate
[12:51] <MarcN> oscarh: I have an hp/compaq nc6000 laptop.
[12:51] <oscarh> MarcN, hibernate worked in hoary
[12:51] <oscarh> MarcN, so I hope it will later
[12:51] <bz0b> Well I have a Presario 2100, so beat that!
[12:51] <oscarh> MarcN, on an IBM T-41 though
[12:51] <bz0b> :-)
[12:51] <windex> i have a fujitsu st5010 tablet pc!
[12:51] <MarcN> oscarh: not tried it yet under breezy.
[12:51] <oscarh> MarcN, ok...
[12:51] <windex> but its running windows cos ubuntu has no on screen keyboard.
[12:51] <windex> :)
[12:51] <MarcN> bz0b: I've seen more compaq gear than you ever will ;-)
[12:52] <Peps> pybe: thanks. dhcp3 is working ....
[12:52] <cafuego_> windex: Yes, it does.
[12:52] <bz0b> MarcN, oh yeah? i doubt that, my whole 40 box ltsp server was running crap compaq donations, thank you very much
[12:52] <cafuego_> windex: You need to install 'gok'.
[12:52] <boogie> what is the best kde distro out there, and i don't mean a bloated one like suse, mepis no?
[12:52] <bz0b> MarcN, I went through about 250 compaq boxes, until i could get 40 good ones
[12:52] <MarcN> bz0b: I work there. :-(p)   (sticking out tounge)
[12:53] <bz0b> MarcN, Damnit! so can you get me a deal on a new notebook :-)
[12:53] <duffman25> there's too many people in here....
[12:53] <cafuego_> boogie: You're asking the wrong question in the wrong channel.
[12:53] <Seveas> boogie, kubuntu :)
[12:53] <MarcN> bz0b: nope.
[12:53] <prolsd> !seen ompaul
[12:53] <ubotu> ompaul is currently on #ubuntu (7h 8m 57s)
[12:53] <windex> cafuego, oh.
[12:53] <bz0b> !seen bz0b
[12:53] <ubotu> bz0b is currently on #ubuntu (19m 32s)
[12:53] <duffman25> what other ubuntu support channels exist?
[12:53] <boogie> Seveas wrong answer
[12:53] <windex> cafuego, meh. :)
[12:54] <HrdwrBoB> duffman25: this is pretty much it
[12:54] <bz0b> boogie, ubuntu with apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:54] <cafuego_> windex: It also supports a magnifier and screenreader.
[12:54] <cafuego_> windex: Well, mine claims to anyway, in the Assitive Technologies preference.
[12:54] <Seveas> boogie, why?
[12:54] <Seveas> kubuntu is KDE based and afaik quite good and small
[12:54] <boogie> because kubuntu control panel even is half broken
[12:54] <Seveas> ah
[12:54] <bz0b> anyone here read digg?
[12:54] <windex> cafuego, well then. ill whip out my tablet. ubuntu's installer will resize ntfs i hear?
[12:55] <cafuego_> boogie: Did you file a bug report on that>
[12:55] <bz0b> Kevin Rose is a media whore!
[12:55] <cafuego_> windex: Any installer can resize NTFS to 0 ;-)
[12:55] <boogie> everyone did, it's a known bug
[12:55] <Seveas> cafuego_, :D
[12:55] <apokryphos> Seveas: try it, you'll love it -- or your money back. :D
[12:55] <windex> cafuego, pfft. i need to keep tablet pc edition installed.
[12:55] <windex> cafuego, is there a ubuntu app for handwriting notes like windows journal?
[12:55] <Seveas> apokryphos, I tried and hated it :) (let's not get into a desktop war...)
[12:55] <apokryphos> =)
[12:56] <cafuego_> windex: it'll *probably* be fine, but then again, I've been known to be a compulsive liar.
[12:56] <apokryphos> boogie: kubuntu is a great KDE-based distro, though. It keeps quite close to kde settings, and we're the fastest gettings debs out :)
[12:56] <apokryphos> boogie: what other distro do you know building 3.5 beta debs so that they're available? :)
[12:56] <windex> cafuego, i have a fat16 partition at the end of my disk with a recovery partition on it. so at the very least, as long as it dosen't hose that partition, i'll be fine
[12:57] <luckyaba> is there a way to get a static ip with dsl?
[12:57] <cafuego_> windex: Windows journal? Never heard of it.
[12:57] <Seveas> luckyaba, ask your provider...
[12:57] <boogie> i'll try out the next version of kubuntu, maybe it'll be stable enough for me
[12:57] <MarcN> bz0b: http://www.flickr.com/photos/marcn/248217/    <== my windows free office
[12:57] <apokryphos> boogie: you had problems with the current one?
[12:57] <windex> cafuego, it lets me hand write notes and it will transcribe them into text
[12:57] <Seveas> boogie, kubuntu breezy is pretty stable, you can try now :)
[12:57] <windex> cafuego, i use it all the time.
[12:57] <cafuego_> windex: if it does, it'll be because you told it to; parted doesn't access bits you didn't tell it to access ;-)
[12:57] <venzen> luckyaba: static ip depends on provider and sometimes wallet
[12:58] <cafuego_> windex: Oh, like my newton 1.0 did in '93 ;-)
[12:58] <apokryphos> some still complain of X problems every now and again, it seems. Hopefully all that will be done and dusted for official.
[12:58] <nalioth> unlike cafuego_
[12:58] <windex> cafuego, basically.
[12:58] <boogie> apokryphos - yes the hoary kubuntu had a few serious bugs i just couldn't take, i'll try out the preview live cd of it
[12:58] <cafuego_> nalioth: wtf have I done *NOW* ?
[12:58] <windex> cafuego, but i dont know of a linux app to do it.
[12:58] <apokryphos> boogie: like which ones?
[12:58] <HrdwrBoB> boogie: the main bug is that it runs KDE ;)
[12:58] <windex> cafuego, .. like your newton 1.0 did in '93.
[12:58] <duffman25> bye
[12:58] <apokryphos> !start a desktop war
[12:58] <ubotu> fluxbox is much better than kde!
[12:58] <Seveas> so true :p
[12:59] <nalioth> cafuego_: just kickin the tape cartridge across the floor, buddy
[12:59] <cafuego_> windex: I expect Linux developers don't have the budget to obtain hundreds of handwriting styles & train teh software
[12:59] <apokryphos> boogie: main known bugs were: admin mode in kcontrol, kaffeine, apparent konqueror crashes for some (never experienced).
[12:59] <woodwizzle> how do I install a font?
[12:59] <boogie> fluxbox is maybe better if you have a 386 computer from 1988
[12:59] <woodwizzle> dragging one to fonts:/// doesn't seem to do it
[12:59] <cafuego_> woodwizzle: copy it to ~/.fonts; run 'xset fp rehash'
[01:00] <HaroldJohnson> Hello all, good day
[01:00] <apokryphos> boogie: you can join us in #kubuntu also, if you like.
[01:00] <boogie> cool ok
[01:00] <windex> cafuego, exactally!
[01:00] <Seveas> wtf
[01:00] <Seveas> stupid dutch xchat :S
[01:00] <luckyaba> lmao
[01:00] <luckyaba> whoa
[01:00] <windex> dutch?
[01:00] <apokryphos> clearing out time :/
[01:00] <windex> insulting the dutch!
[01:00] <windex> :)
[01:00] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone: I just ran and apt-get dist-upgrade, and Mozilla's no longer working.  Anyone have this problem before?
[01:00] <Seveas> windex, i'm dutch myself :)
[01:01] <HaroldJohnson> I'm on a Mac, by the way.
[01:01] <cafuego_> at least the dutch know how and when to build dykes :-P
[01:01] <HaroldJohnson> Hi Seveas
[01:01] <opo> I like gaim for irc, am I a minority?
[01:01] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: back to cause more trouble?
[01:01] <apokryphos> opo: yes
[01:01] <factotum> yes
[01:01] <IceDragon> yes
[01:01] <factotum> irssi myself
[01:01] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Hi nalioth, how're you?
[01:01] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: breezy is broken until oct 13. live with your decision
[01:01] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, :)
[01:02] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: the next update or two should fix your problem
[01:02] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Wait - does that mean I've upgrade to Breezy?
[01:02] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: i'm fine today. and you?
[01:02] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Fine.
[01:02] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Thanks for asking
[01:02] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, What's a way to reveal that I'm using Breezy?
[01:02] <venzen> HArold what are you running ? horay?
[01:02] <crimsun> HaroldJohnson: lsb_release -a
[01:02] <HaroldJohnson> venzen, I thought I was
[01:02] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: open a terminal, and type uname -a
[01:02] <HaroldJohnson> crimsun, Thank you
[01:03] <IceDragon> I tried to upgrade my rpm packages
[01:03] <venzen> Harold: wait a day or 2
[01:03] <Seveas> more flooding coming up, bear with me...
[01:03] <IceDragon> but it keeps giving me an error
[01:03] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Yes, but that simply tells me the kernel
[01:04] <billytwowilly> hi guys, installfest tommorrow and our extreme tech guy bailed. Is there a netinst iso for ubuntu and if so, where do I get it?
[01:04] <nfinitep1astik> o.o;;
[01:04] <windex> Seveas, FLOODER! go to #flood. :>
[01:04] <bimberi> heh, wayne is still unpopular :)
[01:04] <nalioth> Seveas: no flooding! use #flood or a pastebin please
[01:04] <venzen> www.ubuntulinux.com downloads
[01:04] <Seveas> windex, wouldn't help, bans still go in here :)
[01:04] <boogie> anyone tried out openoffice beta 2?? this version loads in 3 seconds, so much faster than beta 1
[01:04] <crimsun> billytwowilly: no, but you can netboot (pxe) the installer and install over the net.
[01:05] <raven3x7> anyone know wether translations are finished in the breezy preview?
[01:05] <Seveas> ok, bans restored, I'll go sit in the corner
[01:05] <apokryphos> watch out, Seveas has lost it and is banning everyone!
[01:05] <venzen> boogie: oo2 works fine
[01:05] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Once you perform an apt-get dist-upgrade, do you need to inform BootX or Yaboot that you've changed the kernel?
[01:05] <apokryphos> =)
[01:05] <venzen> no
[01:05] <boogie> yeah, it's looking good for the final release (whenever that is)
[01:05] <Burgundavia> raven3x7, you can check here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+translations
[01:05] <billytwowilly> crimsun, We have a central file server. We need to boot from cd then install over the intranet.. not all machines will have pxe..
[01:06] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: on yaboot, you'll want to run "sudo ybin" to set the new settings into nvram
[01:06] <nalioth> HaroldJohnson: i'm not sure on bootx (probably have to move the initrc and all that happy stuff back to the boot block)
[01:06] <lonewolff> HaroldJohnson: if you do it with apt then you dont have to do anything, its done automatically
[01:06] <IceDragon> Synaptic is giving me package errors
[01:06] <nalioth> lonewolff: not so, yaboot doesnt work like grub/lilo
[01:06] <IceDragon> anyway to fix this
[01:06] <raven3x7> Burgundavia, i was asking because the greek menus are badly messed up. not the translation itself but the fonts
[01:06] <HaroldJohnson> lonewolff, On the Mac, really?  Even Old World Macs?
[01:06] <HaroldJohnson> nalioth, Thanks
[01:06] <mkyb14> anyone know where the apache2.log file is????? i can't find it by 'whereis apache2.log'  says its in some dir's but it's not there
[01:07] <bz0b> yo
[01:07] <lonewolff> nalioth: im using yaboot here, and i just did dist-upgrade
[01:07] <bz0b> thanks
[01:07] <lonewolff> and guess what, it did it automatically for me
[01:07] <bz0b> Seveas, sorry again
[01:07] <venzen> Harold: yep - iMac233 hree
[01:07] <HaroldJohnson> lonewolff, That's fantastic.
[01:07] <nalioth> lonewolff: every time i upgrade my yaboot on breezy it tells me to run 'ybin'
[01:07] <bz0b> anyways, I <3 macs, i want to get a powerbook, but dont have enough money
[01:07] <cafuego_> venzen: those are nice little ubuntu terminals, provided they have 512MB ram
[01:07] <bz0b> nalioth, you are on an iBook?
[01:07] <IceDragon> o_0
[01:07] <crimsun> billytwowilly: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[01:07] <IceDragon> anyone
[01:07] <IceDragon> This is really sucking
[01:07] <nalioth> lonewolff: when you get a daily update and reboot to a blinkin ?, you'll see
[01:07] <Burgundavia> raven3x7, hmm, file a bug
[01:07] <bimberi> mkyb14: in /var/log/apache2 usually
[01:07] <HaroldJohnson> venzen, The iMac233 is considered New World, right?
[01:08] <nalioth> bz0b: yes i am
[01:08] <mkyb14> ok thanks
[01:08] <bz0b> nalioth, how much ram
[01:08] <venzen> cafuego - yep ram ram ram - else snailpace!
[01:08] <lonewolff> nalioth: well its never ask me, and i updated my system earleir today, altho i am new to linx on ppc
[01:08] <cafuego_> nalioth: Oh, we upped the mac mini to 1GB; suddenly it's useable!
[01:08] <venzen> exactly
[01:09] <raven3x7> yeah that was my intention and why i asked. i need to know if this is known.
[01:09] <IceDragon> oh, repository index update errors
[01:09] <IceDragon> fix?
[01:09] <nalioth> cafuego_: yes they are rather capapble with ram in them
[01:09] <HaroldJohnson> Anyone: Why does Firefox always report no cookies when I'm trying to use a service like Blogger?
[01:09] <mik3> Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting. <---I get this when i try to run nvu, i've looked at nvu's site and googled but got nothing
[01:10] <IceDragon> ...
[01:10] <Seveas> !nvu
[01:10] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvu is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.
[01:10] <IceDragon> !rpm
[01:10] <ubotu> IceDragon: Not a clue
[01:10] <mik3> don't get smart Seveas !
[01:10] <IceDragon> !help
[01:10] <nalioth> mik3: do you have mozilla suite installed/
[01:10] <mik3> nalioth I think i just installed it
[01:11] <Marruk> is ubuntu a good linux distro to start off with?
[01:11] <factotum> !bratwurst
[01:11] <ubotu> factotum: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:11] <venzen> Harold: something is wrong with your mozilla install...
[01:11] <IceDragon> man
[01:11] <mik3> Marruk : yes
[01:11] <factotum> haha
[01:11] <HaroldJohnson> Marruk, Absolutely
[01:11] <venzen> its all about ubuntu
[01:11] <marcin_ant> hi all
[01:11] <venzen> hi
[01:11] <HaroldJohnson> venzen, No doubt - or perhaps it's my dead PRAM battery/
[01:11] <mik3> Marruk : it's probably the most solid, and robust operating system with noob capability
[01:12] <venzen> exactly
[01:12] <marcin_ant> I'm looking for some software for creating online photo albums
[01:12] <mik3> marcin_ant : google
[01:12] <raven3x7> Burgundavia, is this the correct bugzilla?(the one in the link) there seems to be very few reported bugs
[01:12] <HaroldJohnson> marcin_ant, GIMP will do ya.
[01:12] <opo> theres a program I use called
[01:12] <opo> "gallery"
[01:12] <mik3> Seveas help meeeeeeee =(
[01:12] <Burgundavia> raven3x7, bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[01:12] <HaroldJohnson> marcin_ant, GIMP will help, that is.
[01:12] <opo> here's an example www.oponet.com/gallery
[01:12] <IceDragon> this is getting to be really retarded
[01:13] <Marruk> mik3 should i install it or just use the livecd to begin with?
[01:13] <mik3> Marruk : naw get your hands dirty and install it full
[01:13] <venzen> install it if you are ready to letgo windows
[01:13] <specialbuddy> are there any programs like partition magic for linux
[01:13] <mik3> Marruk : once you go black you never go back
[01:13] <venzen> special: GnuParted
[01:13] <cafuego_> Marruk: when you install it, it runs FAR faster than off a cd.
[01:13] <mik3> kiss Gates good bye and laugh at your lesser bretherin] 
[01:14] <Marruk> mik3, does it have a automatic dual partitioning tool?
[01:14] <boogie> what is better enlightenment 17 or gnome?
[01:14] <Marruk> cause i still love my windows
[01:14] <cafuego_> boogie: yes
[01:14] <cyphase> i'm sure it is, but i have to ask.. is inotify going to be in breezy?
[01:14] <IceDragon> think someone might be able to help me with failed repository index update failures?
[01:14] <[A] ndy80> :)
[01:14] <mik3> Marruk : you can easily install one , i use qtparted myself
[01:14] <Versed> hey guys
[01:14] <marcin_ant> HaroldJohnson, gimp and what? some plugin for gimp?
[01:14] <factotum> gnome or enlightenment? neither, flamebait is worthless
[01:14] <apokryphos> boogie: Enlightenment is a Window Manager.
[01:14] <Draucon> is there a good online source that shows you had to get an applications source with apt-get source and modify it a bit and then compile it into a .deb and finally dpkg -i it?
[01:14] <venzen> Marruk: so create a partition +-10Gb and install!
[01:14] <mik3> Marruk : just install it, get your networking squared away and meet us back here, we'll get ya right.
[01:14] <marcin_ant> HaroldJohnson, could you tell me something more?
[01:14] <RoaM_> need bigtime help... updated to breezy badger... and after a while of installing shit, its sad ending because of to much error... so I though that I reboot the computer, and now I can start X-windows...
[01:15] <RoaM_> I cant start x-windows *
[01:15] <cafuego_> !better
[01:15] <ubotu> Better for what? Better for whom? WHy don't you try them all, then decide for yourself?
[01:15] <Marruk> mik3, is it ok if i giev you a wuick pm please?
[01:15] <Seveas> yeah, rebooting during install, that should fix things....NOT
[01:15] <RoaM_> its says connection refused
[01:15] <thrush> Marruk: are you installing both OSs win and ubuntu or do you already have windows installed?
[01:15] <nalioth> Draucon: in a terminal, type "man apt-get" and "man dpkg"
[01:15] <mik3> Marruk : sure
[01:15] <Seveas> RoaM_, try sudo dpkg --configure --pending
[01:15] <bimberi> marcin_ant: if you search for "photo album" in synaptic there's a few options, gallery, album, phpix, zope-cmfphotoalbum
[01:15] <Seveas> RoaM_, try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:15] <Marruk> thrush, i have windows already
[01:15] <XoBelLoX> how do i get to off-topic
[01:15] <Seveas> RoaM_, trysudo apt-gert -f install
[01:15] <HaroldJohnson> marcin_ant, Sure, but I haven't used image editing apps on Linux yet.  Just GIMP once, for one image.
[01:15] <Seveas> RoaM_, trysudo apt-get install ubutnu-desktop
[01:15] <Joxer> can anyone help me install the lates nvidia binary drivers ? ^_^
[01:15] <Seveas> lather, rinse, repeat...
[01:15] <raven3x7> Burgundavia, its already filled. thanks
[01:16] <Seveas> Joxer, don't.
[01:16] <Seveas> Ubuntu ships them.
[01:16] <venzen> Marruk: have you got free drive space
[01:16] <Burgundavia> raven3x7, that is good
[01:16] <Joxer> Seveas, why not ?
[01:16] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Joxer about nvidia
[01:16] <nalioth> Seveas: if you can come out of an interupted install, you are super 733t
[01:16] <Seveas> installing them manually is the road to upgrade hell
[01:16] <Seveas> nalioth, did that several times
[01:16] <marcin_ant> HaroldJohnson, ehh I don't want to edit my images I need software for generating online photo album - html etc.
[01:16] <factotum> super 733t, like 8eet?
[01:16] <Seveas> it's not that hard, dpkg and apt just have to love you :)
[01:16] <marcin_ant> HaroldJohnson, anyway I'll try zope
[01:16] <Versed> been trying to find the kde desk top for ubuntu, I guess I should have installed kubuntu, but thats water under the bridge, went to ubuntu/kubuntu's url, kde's url, can't find it or when I get to the ftp/url site, so d/ling kubuntu full iso, if I do the boot, will it allow me to just install kde off the iso, or will it just whipe and do a complete install.  This is on a mac g4 450.
[01:17] <apokryphos> marcin_ant: do you mean a gallery script?
[01:17] <Nexinarus> !java
[01:17] <ubotu> java is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[01:17] <marcin_ant> apokryphos, yes
[01:17] <specialbuddy> is there anything else like gnuparted that I can just get from synaptic
[01:17] <mik3> Seveas any ideas on my mozilla run time error when running nvu?
[01:17] <HaroldJohnson> marcin_ant, Sounds good.  And keep asking around, some will know what to use.
[01:17] <cafuego_> marcin_ant: Will you put the album on a site that offers PHP support?
[01:17] <bloodnik> !repos
[01:17] <ubotu> somebody said repos was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:17] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Versed about installingkde
[01:17] <RoaM_> Seveas I didnt reboot during installation... the installation ended because of to many errors...
[01:17] <Seveas> nalioth, my warty-hoary upgrade back in gebruary was interrupted 6 times by hard reboots
[01:17] <bimberi> marcin_ant:  there's a few options, gallery, album, phpix, zope-cmfphotoalbum
[01:17] <Seveas> still succeeded :)
[01:17] <apokryphos> hm
[01:17] <thrush> Marruk: smooth sailing then as long as you have free disk space.  But you should keep in mind that you wont be able to write to your windows partition if its ntfs-well you can but im scared to ;)
[01:17] <specialbuddy> anything gnu parted
[01:17] <Ex-Cyber> Versed: see if there's a "kde-desktop" metapackage... not 100% sure that's the name but I've heard one mentioned several times
[01:17] <apokryphos> Versed: just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:17] <Seveas> RoaM_, 'too much errors' says nothing...
[01:17] <Ex-Cyber> ah
[01:17] <Ex-Cyber> that's the one
[01:17] <Seveas> be more descriptive...
[01:17] <nalioth> Seveas: yes, my ibook breezy was, too
[01:17] <Versed> I looked apok, but I am new to linux and a linux moron.  (freely admitted)
[01:17] <apokryphos> marcin_ant: there's zillions out there. By far the best, IMO, is WSN Gallery.
[01:18] <IceDragon> I get a "W: Couldn't stat source package list" for so and so.... and it goes on... how do I fix it?
[01:18] <specialbuddy> is there anything like partition magic but for linux?  and can I get it from synaptic
[01:18] <cafuego_> IceDragon: 'sudo apt-get update'
[01:18] <nalioth> Seveas: nothing like coming back up to a console and nothing else
[01:18] <bloodnik> can someone tell me if the repos here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 are the same for x86 and a64?
[01:18] <Versed> in the terminal apro?
[01:18] <ompaul> why is this sudo cat >> /etc/apt/sources.list gives bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied
[01:18] <RoaM_> Seveas it was typed in the terminal... didnt do anything... its saying right now that pyton and libss isnt configured... and thats why xmms cant be configured
[01:18] <marcin_ant> apokryphos, I'll try with zope but I'm lazy today and if it won't work in 5 minutes I'll try some other
[01:18] <MarcN> oscarh: hibernate seems to work okay in breezy for my hp nc6000.
[01:18] <apokryphos> Versed: yes. You can use gnome and kde like that.
[01:18] <cafuego_> bloodnik: Yes, they are.
[01:18] <bloodnik> thanks
[01:18] <venzen> specail: try search for 'parted' in synaptic
[01:18] <opo> hey if I want to play with computers all day as a job what kinda degree do I need to get?
[01:18] <specialbuddy> ok
[01:18] <boogie> what is the best movie player in linux to watch pr0n? mplayer or xine?
[01:18] <specialbuddy> thatnks venzen
[01:19] <XoBelLoX> (nalioth) do u know how to join off topic chat can u help me?
[01:19] <Versed> I mean I have everything working great, which is a first for me with linux.  ANd hate to screw it up.
[01:19] <cafuego_> bloodnik: The one you have enabled anyway.
[01:19] <marcin_ant> apokryphos, some time ago I generated my album with jalbum and it was pretty nice but I want something packaged for ubuntu - and no java...
[01:19] <raven3x7> Anyone know what how breezy will handle Nvidia cards no longer supported by the newer drivers?
[01:19] <RoaM_> Seveas But ill try the things you told me
[01:19] <billytwowilly> boogie, Find an actual girl and make your own;)
[01:19] <apokryphos> marcin_ant: it probably wouldn't. You  need to (i) create a MySQL database (if one isn't set up), (ii) copy files over in there with ftp, (iii) run the setup.
[01:19] <venzen> hehe
[01:19] <windex> billytwowilly, speaking as a married man, that's way too much work.
[01:19] <nalioth> XoBelLoX: you should ask in here, there are more knowledgable people here
[01:19] <apokryphos> marcin_ant: packaged for ubuntu? Erm, but it's for a website...
[01:19] <cafuego_> raven3x7: It has an nvidia-legacy package, with an older driver, for TNT, Geforce2 etc cards.
[01:19] <XoBelLoX> k
[01:19] <apokryphos> Versed: it won't screw anything up. :)
[01:20] <RoaM_> Seveas after the first commando it stopped again cause of to many errors of alot of python... why?
[01:20] <marcin_ant> apokryphos, software packaged for ubuntu
[01:20] <cyphase> is breezy going to have the firefox beagle plugin by default?
[01:20] <oscarh> MarcN, 686 kernel?
[01:20] <marcin_ant> apokryphos, not my photos ;)
[01:20] <XoBelLoX> does any1 know how to join offtopic chat if so can u peeps help me plezzzzzzzz!!!!
[01:20] <oscarh> MarcN, atheros wireless nic?
[01:20] <cafuego_> cyphase: I doubt it
[01:20] <MarcN> oscarh: yup.
[01:20] <boogie> are there any ubuntu developers in here?
[01:20] <Seveas> RoaM_, paste the error on the pastebin
[01:20] <raven3x7> cafuega i was hoping for that although slim chance it will work for me
[01:20] <marcin_ant> apokryphos, btw seen microsoft max ;) ?
[01:20] <Seveas> XoBelLoX, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:20] <ryanpg> hi all... I'm thinking of switching to ubuntu, are there modular X packages around for ubuntu? how bout CVS xorg?
[01:20] <Seveas> boogie, yes, at times
[01:20] <flankk> I just compiled ALSA 1.0.9 for kernel 2.6.13.1.  alsamixer has unmuted master volume, xmms is set to ALSA and appears to play music, but no sound is produced.
[01:20] <XoBelLoX> thanx
[01:20] <Seveas> why do you need to know?
[01:20] <apokryphos> marcin_ant: well, good luck with that I guess. Nope, haven't seen it; what is it?
[01:20] <MarcN> oscarh: yeah, ubuntu found it just fine.  Wireless reconnects just fine.
[01:21] <Seveas> flankk, esd ditched?
[01:21] <cafuego_> !info linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-8-386-nvidia-legacy breezy
[01:21] <punkass> Does anyone know if there is a php5-mcrypt module being build for breezy??
[01:21] <cafuego_> liar
[01:21] <IceDragon> what is the sudo command for?
[01:21] <marcin_ant> apokryphos, I don't have windows - but website and screenshots are pretty impressive and eyecandy
[01:21] <punkass> Or why there isn't one
[01:21] <boogie> i'm interested in how the development process works
[01:21] <marcin_ant> apokryphos, http://www.microsoft.com/max/
[01:21] <cafuego_> !info nvidia-glx-legacy breezy
[01:21] <Seveas> !info php5-mcrypt breezy
[01:21] <flankk> Seveas, the Multimedia Systems Selector doesn't show anything but 'Custom' now as well.. don't know why.
[01:21] <RoaM_> Seveas I cant its on my laptop that the shit has broke down... its like this: python2.4-glade2, python2.4-egenix-mxtools, and so on... a long list and in the end 'aborted cause of to many errors'
[01:21] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell IceDragon about sudo
[01:21] <venzen> Ice: man sudo
[01:21] <Versed> thanks guys
[01:22] <marcin_ant> apokryphos, I wish to have something simmilar integrated with f-spot
[01:22] <IceDragon> cool
[01:22] <cafuego_> raven3x7: it seems like only amd64 has it at the moment.
[01:22] <ksmurf> WooT.  I just bought my first Laptop.  Now to install breezy.
[01:22] <Seveas> RoaM_, without actual errors I can't say a word about it...
[01:22] <Versed> btw I wish all linux based irc rooms where this helpful and nice.
[01:22] <reiki> is there a version of bum in the Hoary repos? I can't seem to find it
[01:22] <MarcN> ksmurf: what did you buy?
[01:22] <cafuego_> !info burn
[01:22] <ubotu> burn: (Command line Data-CD, Audio-CD, ISO-CD, Copy-CD writing tool), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-3ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 25 kB, Installed size: 176 kB
[01:22] <boogie> !info boogie
[01:22] <cafuego_> reiki: yes, in 'universe'.
[01:22] <apokryphos> marcin_ant: looks interesting.
[01:22] <Joxer> urm, Can anyone tell me how i get to the "device section" (for videocard) as im supposed to add some lines to it
[01:22] <punkass> !info php5-mcrypt
[01:22] <ksmurf> MarcN Just an acer.  But it's my first.
[01:23] <reiki> cafuego: thanks... I must not have that repo open...
[01:23] <venzen> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.config
[01:23] <MarcN> ksmurf: welcome to the laptop world ;-)
[01:23] <apokryphos> Versed: we are here to help =)
[01:23] <louis_> help
[01:23] <louis_> HELP
[01:23] <Nexinarus> jeez.. sun-java runtime environment is 30mb :S
[01:23] <louis_> HELP!
[01:23] <reiki> !info bum
[01:23] <venzen> help hoo
[01:23] <raven3x7> cafuego. well i dont have breezy yet on my main box. i guess there will be a 386 version. sad that my card doesnt like recent kernel-driver combinations. thanks
[01:23] <louis_> ME
[01:23] <venzen> abt what
[01:23] <louis_> I'm new to linux
[01:23] <Seveas> louis_, stop shouting
[01:24] <oscarh> MarcN, what the hell then, i get this scary module version mismatch message and all just stops
[01:24] <venzen> type your Q
[01:24] <reiki> ahhh... package bum does not exist according to ubotu :)
[01:24] <Seveas> Nexinarus, gotta love suns crap :)
[01:24] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell louis_ about rute
[01:24] <Determinist> good evening, gentlemen
[01:24] <bimberi> Joxer: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:24] <Seveas> !info bum breezy
[01:24] <ubotu> bum: (tool to manage bootup scripts), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.3.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 55 kB, Installed size: 348 kB
[01:24] <ksmurf> MarcN..... My wife is going to kill me..... I brought my desktop on this trip with me.... She doesn't know I bought the laptop yet.
[01:24] <louis_> ok my brother fax printer mfc-210c
[01:24] <louis_> I'm trying to download the software for it
[01:24] <reiki> Seveas: is it ok to install that on Hoary?
[01:25] <Nexinarus> louis_: i have the exact same printer
[01:25] <Seveas> reiki, it's perl+gtk, should run safely...
[01:25] <venzen> louis: did you try to configure via admin>printers
[01:25] <louis_> really
[01:25] <cafuego_> 
[01:25] <Nexinarus> yeah
[01:25] <IceDragon> nice!
[01:25] <RoaM_> Seveas its like 100 errors
[01:25] <louis_> i just installed ubitu last nite
[01:25] <louis_> I came over from windows pro
[01:25] <louis_> I love this os
[01:25] <Seveas> RoaM_, well, then give a few...
[01:25] <IceDragon> oh damn
[01:25] <louis_> I just need to get familar and educated on it
[01:25] <Nexinarus> never tried to install the printer tho
[01:25] <apokryphos> louis_: good to hear :)
[01:25] <Nexinarus> i should try
[01:25] <Seveas> especially the first ones...
[01:25] <RoaM_> Seveas its like things is missing... they arent configureted... its complaining al the time
[01:25] <IceDragon> gives me a failed to retrieve package error!?!
[01:25] <venzen> louis: go the top gnome panel>system>admin>printers
[01:26] <reiki> louis_: I haven't booted to winXP in over 4 weeks. I think you'll like this
[01:26] <Seveas> RoaM_, dpkg --configure --pendig or dpkg --configure -a should solve that
[01:26] <louis_> copy that
[01:26] <billytwowilly> what's this about pxe boot?
[01:26] <Seveas> billytwowilly, it's booting from the network
[01:26] <louis_> i added printer ealier
[01:26] <venzen> billy: install over local net...
[01:26] <louis_> but they didnt have mine up there
[01:27] <billytwowilly> Seveas, can it be used to get a net install going from cd?
[01:27] <venzen> louis: www.linuxprinting.org
[01:27] <Seveas> billytwowilly, yes
[01:27] <louis_> ok
[01:27] <billytwowilly> Seveas, is there a how to somewhere?
[01:28] <boogster> the word love has more definitions than any other
[01:28] <RoaM_> Seveas ok but now I cant get a internet connection hehe...
[01:28] <RoaM_> Seveas I have 2 cards... one wavelan and the other ethernet
[01:28] <cave> Hi, anyone having trouble with gnome-panel not showinf png after todays breey update
[01:28] <billytwowilly> whoever mentioned pxe earlier please forgive me, I thought you meant boot from ethernet with no cd.
[01:28] <venzen> billy: google/linux and ubuntuforums search will help you
[01:28] <RoaM_> Seveas ethernet works and gets ip but I think wavelan is the gateway... how do i change that?
[01:29] <mik3> is there an itunes equivilant on linux?
[01:29] <khermans> Can someone explain to me why modprobe ndiswrapper works, and then iwconfig shows wlan0 being active, but i dont have the radio lite on and i can't change any settings like essid or connect to any networks -- ifconfig wlan0 says it is active
[01:29] <PlanarPlatypus> has anoyone had any problems with evolution "double counting" all new messages in the menu on the left?
[01:29] <ian> need help configuring a rt2500 wirless usb dongle under ubuntu breezy, the wiki tutorial failed me
[01:29] <venzen> mik3: erm, gnutella + mplayer...
[01:29] <mik3> hehe
[01:29] <ian> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo dosn't work for me
[01:29] <mik3> well Marruk is concerned for getting music onto his ipod through linux
[01:30] <mik3> so i'm trying to get him information
[01:30] <louis_> venzen can u help me
[01:30] <venzen> speak
[01:30] <khermans> mik3, gtkpod
[01:30] <mik3> because his ipod uses itunes to upgrade the firmware
[01:30] <louis_> can someone mentor me in linux i'm a fast learner
[01:30] <MarcN> mik3: can't you just mount the ipod as a disk?
[01:30] <transgress> does gtkpod work with the nano?
[01:30] <louis_> i'm not finding my printer
[01:30] <RoaM_> Seveas dpkg thing dosnt work
[01:30] <mik3> i'm not sure, it has firmware
[01:30] <venzen> louis: where? linuxprinters.org?
[01:30] <ksmurf> louis ... you'll get a feel for it..
[01:30] <louis_> yea
[01:31] <venzen> damn
[01:31] <louis_> i know I will i'ma fast learner
[01:31] <louis_> i love this os
[01:31] <venzen> louis: give me a minute...
[01:31] <fredforfaen> me to
[01:31] <louis_> so much I just need to get real broke into it
[01:31] <louis_> i'm getting all my friends into it rite away
[01:31] <louis_> i need a one on one mentor
[01:32] <louis_> who can get me familar with this
[01:32] <louis_> thats how I learned windows
[01:32] <thrush> mik3, I think rythmbox supports ipod yes?
[01:32] <transgress> louis_: how well do you pay?
[01:32] <reiki> louis_: hang out in here and listen. You'll pick up a lot.
[01:32] <transgress> i know amarok supports ipod
[01:32] <louis_> how well do I pay
[01:32] <transgress> and relatively sure rhythmbox does... but i don't know about upgrading firmware
[01:32] <mik3> hehe i don't know i don't have an ipod, i'm trying to convince Marruk to let go of his windows training wheels
[01:32] <louis_> i mean if u teach me what i need to know i might toss u a 20.oo spot
[01:33] <louis_> you know If i learn something
[01:33] <Paradosso> hello everybody
[01:33] <fredforfaen> hey
[01:33] <boogster> hello dr nick
[01:33] <Paradosso> what mail client do you use?
[01:33] <robzon> louis_: what exactly do you want to learn? using the system to do everyday tasks or something more?
[01:33] <khermans> Why doesnt wireless work out of the box with ndiswrapper as the default for unconfigured devices?
[01:34] <boogster> khermans - because wireless support is crap in linux, it's the big problem at the moment
[01:34] <venzen> louis: i have to go, but try this: http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/cups_drivers.html
[01:34] <Nexinarus> because wires are for real men :p
[01:35] <louis_> thank u
[01:35] <boogster> real men have big dangling wires
[01:35] <khermans> Nexinarus, wires dont work in a classroom
[01:35] <louis_> my yahoo screen name is ljdetails
[01:35] <pheonixdown> is there any chance of getting a microsoft wireless card working on a laptop?
[01:35] <louis_> add me and lets chat
[01:35] <louis_> anyone willing to teach me and find a great friend
[01:35] <RoaM_> how do I inactivate a NIC?
[01:35] <bur[n] er> http://burner.ath.cx/bad-gnome.panel.jpg  <--anyone know where that prompt comes from?  it's when I did "properties" on my fairly empty panel that only has a notification area
[01:36] <bur[n] er> louis_: support open chat protocols like irc and jabber ;)
[01:36] <transgress> jabber
[01:36] <boogster> !ban chialing
[01:36] <ubotu> boogster: I haven't a clue
[01:36] <robzon> louis_: I could help you out with much stuff, probably like just anyone else in here, but don't count on using yahoo messanger :)
[01:37] <bur[n] er> can anyone support me?  I've never been so linux lost
[01:37] <mik3> Seveas you here brotha?
[01:37] <venzen> louis: try the last link I posted - it's really helpful for your printer - then post questions here as you progress...
[01:37] <louis_> robzon
[01:37] <louis_> ok
[01:37] <louis_> thank u
[01:37] <venzen> welcome
[01:38] <louis_> i pareicate all ur help
[01:38] <louis_> truely
[01:38] <venzen> enjoy linux
[01:38] <nalioth> bur[n] er: whats the trouble?
[01:38] <bur[n] er> nalioth: http://burner.ath.cx/bad-gnome.panel.jpg  <--anyone know where that prompt comes from?  it's when I did "properties" on my fairly empty panel that only has a notification area
[01:38] <Nexinarus> !dpkg
[01:38] <bur[n] er> i'm going to try to dump my whole gnome-panel ~/ directory and see if that helps
[01:38] <bur[n] er> but if you have ideas, I'm all ears
[01:38] <bobbyd> budluva, 404
[01:39] <nalioth> bur[n] er: gimme a min to look
[01:39] <bobbyd> bur[n] er, 404
[01:39] <Nexinarus> ubuto the bot rules ;D
[01:39] <nalioth> bur[n] er: you sent me a 404
[01:40] <khermans> anyone have a Broadcom working in Breezy Badger?!?!??!
[01:40] <transgress> i do
[01:40] <transgress> i think
[01:40] <transgress> let me check
[01:40] <Nexinarus> any idea why a cups printer driver would depend on csh?
[01:40] <khermans> transgress, bcm4306?
[01:40] <transgress> let me check
[01:40] <transgress> gotta boot up the lappy
[01:40] <bur[n] er> oh?  one sec ;)
[01:40] <robzon> bur[n] er: so it's that the panel is pretty much empty?
[01:40] <venzen> Nex: legacy?
[01:40] <robzon> just change . to - in the URL so it's gnome-panel not gnome.panel
[01:41] <khermans> transgress, thx dude -- im having major issues
[01:41] <transgress> khermans: what kind of chip do you have?
[01:41] <reiki> ok... do I have this right for installing from a deb? sudo dpkg -i name-of-the.deb
[01:41] <khermans> transgress, bcm4306
[01:41] <transgress> err i meant cpu
[01:41] <qt2> brb
[01:41] <venzen> reiki yes
[01:41] <mik3> hey after reconfiguring my xorg conf is it possible to make the settings take effect without rebooting? like screen resolution selections?
[01:41] <bur[n] er> no, it's not
[01:41] <bur[n] er> one sec
[01:41] <khermans> transgress, amd64 -- but i am running i386
[01:41] <reiki> venzen: thanks
[01:42] <venzen> mik3: ctrl + backspace
[01:42] <bur[n] er> http://67.173.243.73/bad-gnome-panel.jpg <--that should work
[01:42] <nalioth> mik3: yes, log out and log back in
[01:42] <transgress> khermans: ah well 've got the amd64 version on my lappy... and i'm using the linuxant drivers along with a source built copy of ndiswrapper
[01:42] <bur[n] er> my ip has been switching more than usual lately
[01:42] <khermans> transgress, i couldnt deal with 64-bit problems anymore
[01:42] <robzon> bur[n] er: ok, I see a authentication box and an empty panel at the bottom, but I don't know what happened.. I mean.. what did you do, etc
[01:42] <khermans> transgress, yah i had to do that for Hoary -- and it worked
[01:43] <nalioth> bur[n] er: what am i looking at?
[01:43] <khermans> transgress, but you're in not i386 and yer in Breezy
[01:43] <bur[n] er> robzon: I right-clicked my panel... properties... and I get an authentication request... they used to be evolution accounts, but i've dumped them
[01:43] <bur[n] er> it's just the basic panel trying to access it
[01:43] <khermans> transgress, i can modprobe the driver, but the wifi light does not turn on -- so imstumped
[01:43] <bur[n] er> and i'm not sure how to stop it... I can have a panel with no applets, right-click properties and I get that auth box
[01:43] <ripgut> quick question guys, how can i mount my floppy drive
[01:44] <bur[n] er> it's fine if i cancel 2x, then I get the gnome panel properties
[01:44] <transgress> khermans: actually i lied... i don't have it working... yay for testing.  must get it kicking.  give me a few minutes and i'll get back to you.  are you on jabber?
[01:44] <khermans> ripgut, mount /dev/fd0 /mnt<point>
[01:44] <Nexinarus> when i get: /etc/init.d/cups: Command not found... does that mean i should install cupsys?
[01:44] <mik3> ripgut : i'd install mtools
[01:44] <ripgut> what do i put for the point?
[01:44] <khermans> transgress, actually im just here
[01:45] <mik3> ripgut : mtools is handy for dealing with writing and mounting floppys
[01:45] <transgress> khermans: k well i'll get back to you in here in a few
[01:45] <khermans> transgress, im heading out in about 5 minutes too for pizza, so could you priv msg me if you end up getting it going???
[01:45] <khermans> i mean, in Breezy that is
[01:45] <cave> Do you guys had problem with tor users? Since we are banned ?
[01:45] <tonkar> a short question .... wich firewall do you recomend me?
[01:45] <ripgut> apt-get'n mtools now, thanks
[01:45] <robzon> bur[n] er: hmm maybe something took over permissions of some files.. but it's kinda odd.. don't dump the gnome-panel settings just try moving them to other place and see if it fixes the problem
[01:45] <venzen> smoothwal firewall
[01:45] <tonkar> venzen: thanks ;)
[01:45] <venzen> but shorewall is the bomb if you are willing to learn
[01:46] <ripgut> ok, now how do i use mtools
[01:46] <robzon> bur[n] er: if yes, try to figure out which file causes the problem :)
[01:46] <transgress> khermans: yes
[01:46] <ripgut> god why is linux so tough, i just wanna use a stinkin floppy
[01:46] <bur[n] er> robzon: is it just ~/.gnome2/panel2.d/  ??  i moved it to panel2.d-bak and I have the same issue
[01:46] <bur[n] er> is there more?
[01:46] <tonkar> venzen: ok ...
[01:47] <venzen> ripgut: take it easy you wont have parasites and worms and crashes, so just step by step will become habit
[01:47] <robzon> bur[n] er: .gconf/apps/panel
[01:47] <ripgut> so waht do i do!
[01:47] <ripgut> please
[01:47] <thrush> ripgut: are you trying to access files on the floppy or format it or ..what?
[01:47] <ripgut> just wanna mount my floppy drive so i can use it
[01:47] <ripgut> tahts all
[01:48] <bur[n] er> robzon: I moved that file, killall gnome-panel and the .gconf/panel directory isn't recreated
[01:48] <venzen> ripgut: top panel>places>computer; then right click floppy icon and choose mount
[01:48] <transgress> hey anyone wanna give me tips on grabbing a source package and compiling it?
[01:48] <thrush> sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 does that work?
[01:48] <cafuego_> transgress: apt-get -b source <package name>
[01:48] <venzen> thrush: you're right but i think ripgut is new to linux
[01:48] <cafuego_> transgress: ind you, if you do that, without modifications, you may as well install the binary.
[01:49] <robzon> bur[n] er: hmm if that doesn't fix the problem... looks like gnome-issue, maybe try on #gnome
[01:49] <ripgut> "unable to mount the selected volume"
[01:49] <bur[n] er> robzon: i just want to remove all my gnome configs and start over ;)
[01:49] <ripgut> "mount: i could not determine the filesystem type, and non was specified"
[01:49] <ripgut> wtf
[01:50] <bur[n] er> sudo apt-get remove gnome-panel --purge && sudo apt-get install gnome-panel :)
[01:50] <Nexinarus> omg mt printer might work
[01:50] <Nexinarus> my*
[01:50] <venzen> ripgut: ok, open a terminal then type: sudo mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0
[01:50] <transgress> cafuego_: i see... well i'm trying to get ndiswrapper compiled... as there is no binary package in breezy yet
[01:50] <transgress> cafuego_: guess i will just grab the source since that fails
[01:50] <reiki> ripgut: you have a fresh ubuntu install? I just inserted a floppy and it automounted
[01:50] <ripgut> not a fresh install
[01:51] <ompaul> why is this "sudo cat >> /etc/apt/sources.list" gives "bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied"
[01:51] <reiki> ripgut: well if you haven't broken automounting it should respond
[01:51] <venzen> ripgut: is there a floppy icon on yr desktop?
[01:51] <ripgut> no
[01:51] <robzon> bur[n] er: yeah, that's one way to do it :) unless it's not the problem with gnome-panel's config.. but it probably is so maybe it's worth trying
[01:51] <cafuego_> transgress: There isn't? isn't it just in restricted-modules ?
[01:51] <ripgut> ok, taht syntax didnt work
[01:51] <venzen> ripgut: did you try the code I posted above?
[01:51] <bur[n] er> robzon: any thoughts as to anything else it could be?
[01:51] <ripgut> it came up with all kinds of stuff but i know i cant paste it in here
[01:51] <bur[n] er> i'm pretty stumped at this point
[01:52] <reiki> venzen: mine doesn't show up on my desktop either (like a cdrom does) but it shows up in places -> computer
[01:52] <thrush> ripgut: is this a new floppy -are there existing files on it?
[01:52] <ripgut> existing files on it
[01:52] <nalioth> bur[n] er: dont remove them, rename them
[01:52] <ripgut> should i try that syntax without the disk?
[01:52] <tonkar> venzen: do you have some idea why it launches me an error "no zones defined" ?
[01:52] <ian> I've got a usb wifi dongle plugged in, it shows up in lsusb, and the module is loaded, but I can't configure it from the networking gui
[01:53] <ripgut> ok, it didnt work with or without the disk, god wtf, all i wanna do is use a floppy
[01:53] <reiki> venzen: I take back what I just said... a floppy0 icon appeared on my desktop :)
[01:53] <robzon> bur[n] er: I'd probably just move away my whole .gnome2 and .gconf and see if it fixes the problem. If yes, I'd either move back only the configs that I want, or try to find which config file caused the problem
[01:53] <venzen> tonkar: which? shorewall?
[01:53] <tonkar> venzen: yep
[01:53] <ripgut> youd think ubuntu would come with native floppy drive support
[01:53] <transgress> why in the hell is the wiki on a secure page?  that's agitating especially since they don't have a certificate
[01:53] <HrdwrBoB> best thing to do with a floppy
[01:53] <HrdwrBoB> .. throw it oyut
[01:53] <ripgut> thx bob but i dont need your fanboyish opinion
[01:53] <ian> throw it at a mac user, they'll never know what hit them
[01:54] <cafuego_> transgress: Nobody is forcing you to sue 'https' over 'http'.
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> ripgut: no that's an opinion that's formed over years of using floppies
[01:54] <ripgut> so i cant use a floppy disk taht has ms word files on it? or what?
[01:54] <IceDragon> doing the sudo apt-get update doesnt work...
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> if you have data on them, get them off ASAP, spend $sfa and get a USB key
[01:54] <cafuego_> ripgut: he's right, floppies are unreliable and a product of the last MILLENNIUM.
[01:55] <IceDragon> still a coudlnt stat package list error
[01:55] <venzen> tonkar: you have to go www.shorewall.net/shorewall_setup_guide.htm  - that's why i said you must be prepared to learn...
[01:55] <cafuego_> HrdwrBoB: 1GB keys are officeworks $cheep now :-)
[01:55] <venzen> tonkar: smoothwall is simpler
[01:55] <reiki> that dont help him get his word docs
[01:55] <reiki> :)
[01:55] <ompaul> ripgut,  you can if you use mtools mcopy a: /home/user/Desktop or somewhere else
[01:55] <ripgut> i installed mtools but how do i use it
[01:55] <reiki> ripgut: put your floppy in the drive and just type     mount    ... let's see what mount knows about that drive
[01:55] <ompaul> ripgut,  read my message again
[01:56] <transgress> cafuego_: it forwards you there
[01:56] <cafuego_> ripgut: mdir a:  mcopy a:\*.*  foo...
[01:56] <ompaul> reiki, it auto mounts
[01:56] <IceDragon> still a coudlnt stat package list error " I was told to type sudo apt-get update "
[01:56] <ripgut> "mount" just lists the cd rom drives
[01:56] <ian> can anyone here help me with an asus wifi usb adapter?
[01:56] <reiki> ompaul: sorry... I thought he was saying it isn't automounting
[01:56] <ripgut> cafuego, grow up.... foo
[01:56] <ompaul> ahh
[01:56] <Tony> Does anyone know how to bump up my screen resolution? The "System | Preferences" only allows me to go up to 1280x1024.
[01:56] <ripgut> i came here for help not opinions
[01:56] <cafuego_> ripgut: I GAVE YOU HELP
[01:56] <ripgut> insert more coins please
[01:56] <ian> tony: check the xorg config, might need a different driver ifyou're running the default
[01:56] <cafuego_> ripgut: 'foo' as in 'some directory or other location'.
[01:56] <tonkar> venzen: i want to learn ...., , ok, thanks a lot for all, i have to go, bye
[01:57] <Tony> I see...
[01:57] <cafuego_> ripgut: If I meant 'fool' I would have said 'fool'.
[01:57] <VaderDarth> what is the minimum spec for graphical ubuntu?
[01:57] <ian> so, this is a flame war, not a support channel?
[01:57] <cafuego_> ripgut: if you don't WANT help, but would rather be paranoid and irritating, let me know, and I'll stop helping you.
[01:57] <ian> vaderdarth: depends on what you're running, if you use fluxbox, pretty damn low
[01:57] <venzen> vader: P133 256ram
[01:58] <sunjay_> Hello all, just been trying out ubuntu for the first time tonight, so far so good, just an intoduction...
[01:58] <Versed`> thanks for all of your guys help.  got kde up and running.  I
[01:58] <VaderDarth> ian: for ubuntu?
[01:58] <ripgut> ok well taht didnt work either cafuego
[01:58] <cafuego_> How did it not work?
[01:58] <locomorto> I'm using breezy, and when I set my mouse to use evdev xorg wont start ("can't connect to evdev brain")
[01:58] <venzen> ripgut: seems like your floppy drive is broken...
[01:58] <ian> vaderdarth : yeah, you can get fluxbox, in universe I think
[01:58] <VaderDarth> venzen: what about 64mb ram?
[01:58] <IceDragon> damnit
[01:58] <cafuego_> transgress: You're right, I though it didn't do that.. oh well.
[01:58] <locomorto> To do this I changed ImPS/2 to evdev, is there some other way?
[01:58] <IceDragon> linux hates me
[01:58] <ripgut> it says cannot initialize "a" no such device or address
[01:58] <IceDragon> :-p
[01:58] <VaderDarth> ian: so u start in txt?
[01:59] <venzen> vader: not good for graphics
[01:59] <robzon> ripgut: type cat /dev/fd0 > /dev/null and see if the drive works :)
[01:59] <cafuego_> ripgut: is the 'floppy' kernel driver loaded?
[01:59] <ian> vaderdarth : no, you can use gdm to launch it
[01:59] <foampiece> hi
[01:59] <ripgut> man i swear i miss windows sometimes, and im trying soo hard to stick to linux
[01:59] <ian> vaderdarth: or xdm, or whatever
[01:59] <VaderDarth> i have 4 pcs to take care of
[01:59] <foampiece> how do i fix the bootloader after installing windows?
[01:59] <VaderDarth> they were donated
[01:59] <nalioth> ripgut: i miss windows also, when i need a doorstop or a room heater
[01:59] <venzen> ripgut: i think your floppy drive is busted...
[01:59] <ian> foampiece: its tricky, use a live cd, reinstall grub to the mbr, and back up the mbr for the future
[01:59] <reiki> ripgut: please... #1... calm down. People here really want to help you be successful. Your impatience makes this more difficult
[01:59] <ripgut> i dont think it is
[02:00] <cafuego_> nalioth: You're a mac user, what are you talking about ;-)
[02:00] <VaderDarth> so i havent seen them but think it is 64mb ram in some
[02:00] <cafuego_> ripgut: is the 'floppy' kernel driver loaded?
[02:00] <ripgut> im not trying to come off as impatient
[02:00] <nalioth> cafuego_: i have a few door stops
[02:00] <mjr> last time I checked I think it wasn't autoloaded on hoary
[02:00] <foampiece> i didnt buy windows, im deleting it, so i dont support it either
[02:00] <ian> vaderdarth that should be usable with fluxbox, but no idea how it works when you load mozilla, or something
[02:00] <VaderDarth> Is ubuntu good for Iit?
[02:00] <nalioth> cafuego_: windows works great in that function
[02:00] <robzon> ripgut: don't worry, linux gets better and better... :) try cat /dev/fd0 > /dev/null and see if the drive works
[02:00] <venzen> foampiece: search ubuntuforums.org
[02:00] <ian> with swap it'll work, just be rather slow
[02:00] <cafuego_> nalioth; i find a cdrom doesn't really hold a door in place.
[02:00] <thrush> VaderDarth: I have a laptop with fluxbox running on it 16mb ram
[02:01] <VaderDarth> ian: we have a win200 terminal server on citrix
[02:01] <ripgut> taht doesnt work rob
[02:01] <cafuego_> nalioth: a pile of DOS floppies make a greatw edge, though,.
[02:01] <VaderDarth> win 2000
[02:01] <ripgut> "no such device or address"
[02:01] <robzon> ripgut: that means that the driver isn't loaded
[02:01] <thrush> VaderDarth: or blackbox cant remember
[02:01] <robzon> ripgut: sudo modprobe floppy
[02:01] <ian> vaderdarth : no idea what citrix is, but win200 sounds old
[02:01] <ian> :P
[02:01] <VaderDarth> ian: i just want it to use the terminal server via
[02:01] <ripgut> i did that rob
[02:01] <cafuego_> ripgut: is that what 'sudo modprobe floppy' said?
[02:01] <transgress> grar... ndiswrapper won't compile at all... grar
[02:01] <ripgut> no
[02:01] <nalioth> cafuego_: icescrapers (except it doesnt freeze in houston)
[02:01] <ripgut> audo modprboe floppy appears to not do anything
[02:02] <ripgut> sudo*
[02:02] <cafuego_> ripgut: That emasn the module didn't detect the hardware, which emans it's either broken or not plugged in.
[02:02] <foampiece> should i install the breezy preview release?
[02:02] <VaderDarth> ian: what do u think
[02:02] <robzon> ripgut: so it seems more of a hardware problem.. and modprobe simply doesn't display anything if it succeeds
[02:02] <cafuego_> ripgut: if it doesn't print anything, it worked OK.
[02:02] <ian> vaderdarth: for just a terminal, it'll work fine, just need to set it up so it dosn't load a display manager
[02:02] <ian> vaderdarth easy under debian, but I've never done it on ubuntu
[02:02] <cafuego_> ripgut: try 'dmesg | tail' and see if it has detected the drive.
[02:02] <ripgut> well bios see this floppy drive and it is in "computer"
[02:02] <VaderDarth> ian: the TS has a web interface?
[02:03] <robzon> ripgut: BIOS always detects floppy and it's always in computer
[02:03] <VaderDarth> thrush: cool, is it usable
[02:03] <venzen> ripgut: the floppy icon in Computer is standard & nothing to do with actual detection
[02:03] <ripgut> i built this pc myself and it worked underwindows
[02:03] <cafuego_> robzon: Well nearly, mine doesn't.
[02:03] <ripgut> trust me the floppy is not broken
[02:03] <metalsand> Anyone know of a Ventrilo package?
[02:03] <robzon> ripgut: I don't even have a floppy, but my BIOS thinks I have, and I also have floppy in my computer :)
[02:03] <cafuego_> ripgut: 'dmesg | tail' - does that mention a floppy?
[02:03] <grodius> use GAIM
[02:03] <metalsand> Or is it possible to get Ventrilo to work under Ubuntu?
[02:03] <VaderDarth> ian: any ideas?
[02:04] <grodius> gaim can run google talk
[02:04] <grodius> google talk is based on gaim
[02:04] <robzon> cafuego_: hmm depends on BIOS then
[02:04] <grodius> google talk is leeter than vent
[02:04] <metalsand> My guild doesn't use Google talk, Jesse :P
[02:04] <ripgut> dmesg gives: VFS cant find ext3 files on dev fd0
[02:04] <venzen> robzon: he says it works in windows
[02:04] <ian> vaderdarth : web interface??
[02:04] <thrush> VaderDarth: yes 64mb with blackbox -or flux will give you plenty of breathing room.  depending on the rest of the config
[02:04] <ripgut> filesystem*
[02:04] <Seveas> grodius, google talk is based on jabber
[02:04] <Seveas> not on gaim
[02:04] <carthik> ping
[02:04] <VaderDarth> ian: yes
[02:04] <metalsand> pwmd
[02:04] <robzon> venzen: oh.. well, that's different then
[02:04] <metalsand> pwnd
[02:04] <cafuego_> ripgut: that's fine.
[02:04] <venzen> yep
[02:04] <ripgut> ok
[02:04] <VaderDarth> thrush: cool, how to get blackbox, apt?
[02:04] <ripgut> now what
[02:04] <cafuego_> ripgut: type 'sudo mdir a:'
[02:04] <IceDragon> Whoa
[02:05] <venzen> umm
[02:05] <IceDragon> I am so stuck
[02:05] <thrush> VaderDarth: yes
[02:05] <cafuego_> note the colon at the end
[02:05] <IceDragon> I can even reinstall synaptic now
[02:05] <IceDragon> goddamnit this sucks
[02:05] <ripgut> "cannot initialize 'A:'
[02:05] <VaderDarth> ian: it is www.citrix.ourdomainname.com
[02:05] <VaderDarth> thrush: thanks
[02:05] <cafuego_> ripgut: Is the floppy formatted?
[02:05] <ripgut> uhm, yea
[02:05] <cafuego_> ripgut: DOS?
[02:05] <ripgut> yea :(
[02:05] <IceDragon> W: Couldn't stat source package list so an so....
[02:06] <IceDragon> no help?
[02:06] <robzon> ripgut: does the floppy's light even go on?
[02:06] <VaderDarth> ian: so when u go there u see a login box
[02:06] <thrush> VaderDarth: fluxbox is basically blackbox with some extras
[02:06] <ripgut> yup
[02:06] <ian> vaderdarth well, mozilla might work, then theres lynx and links and some w3m thing i think
[02:06] <thrush> VaderDarth: or it used to be ..
[02:06] <venzen> ripgut: it happens...
[02:06] <ian> for micro web browsers that would run fast
[02:06] <VaderDarth> thrush: never used it, only used xfce and E17
[02:06] <cafuego_> ripgut: Can you boot windows, check if that same disk works there?
[02:06] <IceDragon> I've been here looking for help
[02:06] <ian> can anyone help me with a usb wifi dongle?
[02:06] <IceDragon> :-(
[02:06] <reiki> cafuego: I had trouble getting a usb flash drive mounted as it was detected as having fat16 ... it mounted fine when I manually mounted it as vfat
[02:06] <Juul> hey, i'm running the breezy preview. i just installed an SMB printer, and it says Status: ready in the printer properties, but when i print it just get added to the queue with state: "Printing: job-printing" but nothing ever happens
[02:06] <cafuego_> ripgut: ... or try it on another windoze box?
[02:06] <venzen> ripgut: try it in windows... and seriously invest in a USB stick
[02:06] <VaderDarth> thrush: and kde and gnome
[02:07] <robzon> ripgut: mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[02:07] <venzen> yep
[02:07] <cafuego_> robzon: sudo
[02:07] <venzen> yep
[02:07] <thrush> VaderDarth: flux is what i use on my p4 system I just prefer it
[02:07] <reiki> robzon: I think he needs to sudo mount
[02:07] <ian> echo "hahahahah";rm -rf /
[02:07] <robzon> errrr, right
[02:07] <robzon> sudo :)
[02:07] <robzon> ripgut: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy :)
[02:07] <VaderDarth> thrush: is flux used in damn small linux
[02:07] <ian> sudo echo "bwahahah";rm -rf /
[02:07] <IceDragon> it never completes the download
[02:08] <IceDragon> just says failed
[02:08] <cafuego_> ripgut: 'sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0'
[02:08] <venzen> reiki: robzon's suggestion is the definitive mount for floppy with windows format
[02:08] <IceDragon> I'll ask again later :-p
[02:08] <thrush> VaderDarth: last time i checked i think damn small livecd is using flux
[02:08] <VaderDarth> thrush: then i have used it  ;-)
[02:08] <cafuego_> ripgut: That that also won't work, the floppy is most lilely broken.
[02:08] <Seveas> ian the wiki has a page about that thing
[02:08] <reiki> venzen: understood
[02:08] <marcin_ant> could someone tell me how can I start zope2.7?
[02:08] <venzen> Ice: has your download dir got enuff room?
[02:09] <cafuego_> ripgut: On my laptop these days, I find I cna typically use a floppy twice (once to write a boot disk image to, once to boot it) before they break.
[02:09] <VaderDarth> ian: very simple
[02:09] <bimberi> marcin_ant: sudo /etc/init.d/zope2.7 start
[02:09] <marcin_ant> bimberi, no zope instances
[02:09] <grodius> Anyone know how to get drivers set up for a Radeon card?
[02:09] <venzen> cafuego: its true - 70% failure here
[02:09] <Seveas> !tell grodius about atu
[02:09] <Seveas> !tell grodius about ati
[02:09] <ian> seveas wow, a reply, I've seen the wikipage, and it dosn't work for me
[02:09] <bimberi> marcin_ant: sudo mkzope2.7instance
[02:10] <VaderDarth> ian: heard of snoopy
[02:10] <Seveas> ian, wow, so much info, now i can solve your problem...
[02:10] <reiki> I musta bought good floppies. I have some that are YEARS old and the one I just stuck in this machine is the first floppy that drive has seen in 2 years :)  heheh
[02:10] <marcin_ant> bimberi, command not found
[02:10] <ian> seveas I've got the module compiled, installed, its loaded, the device showes up in lsusb, and the device isn't working or in the networking config gui
[02:10] <ripgut> yea i think the drive is broken
[02:10] <ian> seveas I was typing
[02:10] <ian> seveas its an asus wl167g
[02:11] <venzen> ripgut: try another floppy with the above posted command
[02:11] <ian> seveas uses the rt2500 chipset
[02:11] <VaderDarth> ian: why do u use a usb kit
[02:11] <Bartimaeus> does anyone know how to cofigure the apache2 webserver?  Because I cant find the actual file that you set up virtual host is
[02:11] <ian> I'm on an ibook g4 and its all I can get for wifi
[02:11] <Seveas> ian, try the console tools like iwconig and ifconfig instead of the gui
[02:11] <robzon> ripgut: unfortunately, floppies are very unreliable :/
[02:11] <VaderDarth> ian: use a pcmcia kit
[02:11] <Seveas> easier to debug :)
[02:11] <ian> no pcmcia
[02:11] <ripgut> crap, and i gotta go piss......
[02:11] <bimberi> marcin_ant: huh? how did you install zope?
[02:11] <opo> vart: look in the included fules
[02:11] <ian> seveas yeah, nothing there either
[02:11] <marcin_ant> bimberi, apt-get
[02:11] <grodius> Ok im a nub, how do i switch between my pms and the main channel?
[02:11] <Seveas> 'nothing there' ... again very informative..
[02:11] <ian> seveas I have eth0 lo and sit0
[02:12] <ian> seveas and no wireless extensions on any of them
[02:12] <bimberi> marcin_ant: ok, what does "ls /usr/sbin/*zope*" show?
[02:12] <VaderDarth> ian: why don't u use osX
[02:12] <ian> vaderdarth: because os x sucks in the worse way possible and the the kiddie cartoon version of unix
[02:12] <bz0b> hey all
[02:12] <marcin_ant> bimberi, nothing
[02:12] <VaderDarth> ian: u are joking
[02:12] <Seveas> lsmod | grep rt
[02:12] <Bartimaeus> Can anyone help me with apache2?
[02:12] <Seveas> does that show something?
[02:13] <ian> vaderdarth : nope, it blowz, its just a pain in the ass
[02:13] <Seveas> ian, language...
[02:13] <billytwowilly> is there a howto to mirror hoary/
[02:13] <billytwowilly> ?
[02:13] <reiki> Bartimaeus, go into /etc/apache2 and read the readme file there... you're looking for httpd.conf I believe
[02:13] <ian> vaderdarth i don't need any of its user friendly bs and unviewable hidden files and unconfigurable crap
[02:13] <VaderDarth> ian: basically os X is UNIX like LINUX
[02:13] <bimberi> marcin_ant: ah, i have an idea, just need to check...
[02:13] <ian> vaderdarth and its huge, anoying, hard to work with
[02:13] <Seveas> ian, last time, watch your language
[02:14] <VaderDarth> ian: ls -a
[02:14] <Seveas> we don't do mac/win bashing in here
[02:14] <Seveas> billytwowilly, on ubuntu.com
[02:14] <ian> vaderdarth I don't want to use a terminal for everything
[02:14] <Seveas> link: download -> seup a mirror
[02:14] <ian> vaderdarth I've looked at it, os x isn't worth it, I'd rather have kde and apt-get
[02:14] <VaderDarth> ian: os X supports airport
[02:14] <ian> vaderdarth correct, but its not worth it
[02:14] <reiki> Bartimaeus, the configuration file is /etc/apache2/apach2.conf
[02:14] <VaderDarth> ian:  u can run kde on osx
[02:14] <Seveas> VaderDarth, ian get this discussion to somewhere else
[02:14] <Bartimaeus> thanks
[02:15] <VaderDarth> Seveas: sorry
[02:15] <reiki> np
[02:15] <grodius> #help
[02:15] <grodius> err
[02:15] <ian> seveas so can you help me get the thing running or should I start searching elsewhere?
[02:15] <bimberi> marcin_ant: i've checked, and the zope2.7 package should install that file,  hmmm...
[02:15] <grodius> hey how do i switch between my pm tabs and the main channel tab
[02:15] <Seveas> ian, i told you something a while ago
[02:15] <Zodiac> Hello all
[02:15] <Seveas> lsmod | grep rt
[02:15] <bobbyd> grodius, what client?
[02:15] <Seveas> does that show something?
[02:15] <billytwowilly> Seveas, I need to download just the x86 binary packages.
[02:15] <bimberi> marcin_ant: are you on i386?
[02:15] <grodius> irssi
[02:15] <ian> seveas was that the "oh lots of helpfull info" comment?
[02:15] <marcin_ant> bimberi, yup
[02:15] <grodius> bobbyd: irssi
[02:16] <bobbyd> grodius, alt + number key i think
[02:16] <marcin_ant> bimberi, but on breezy - so maybe it is a problem
[02:16] <Zodiac> Did anyone else have the updates for Hoary yesterday break some of their programs?
[02:16] <grodius> thanks
[02:16] <bimberi> marcin_ant: ooh, ok, i'll have a look there
[02:16] <ian> seveas I tried the console progs, and I said they didn't show anything except eth0 and lo
[02:16] <transgress> oh i rock
[02:16] <h0sl3r> If im using the network proxy tool in fluxbox, but the tool came with gnome, will it still work with fluxbox?
[02:16] <Seveas> ok, now i told you twice, if you're going to ignore me  then don't expect help...
[02:17] <azahid> To upgrade Ubuntu from one to the next is dist-upgrade as good as clean update. Many distros don't allow or recommend full distribution upgrade but in Ubuntu it is very easy and  I do this. Is this recommended?
[02:18] <Seveas> azahid, yes
[02:18] <apokryphos> azahid: yes
[02:18] <Seveas> reinstalling is a thing of the past
[02:18] <billytwowilly> why doesn't ubuntu have debproxy?
[02:18] <azahid> thanks
[02:18] <apokryphos> azahid: stable -> stable upgrade is fully supported
[02:18] <ian> seveas yes, I've told everyone several times, the module, rt2500, is loaded
[02:18] <Seveas> billytwowilly, it has
[02:18] <marcin_ant> bimberi, ok - it's propably broken
[02:18] <marcin_ant> bimberi, forget
[02:18] <Zodiac> Amarok has no sound after yesterdays Hoary updates
[02:18] <Seveas> billytwowilly, apt-proxy I mean
[02:19] <Zodiac> everything else works
[02:19] <bimberi> marcin_ant: yes, it's all different in breezy, you'll probably have to look for a readme in /usr/share/doc/zope2.7
[02:19] <billytwowilly> Seveas, thanks;) I'm retarded it appers;)
[02:19] <marcin_ant> bimberi, the 'zope product' I need is non downloadable
[02:19] <azahid> I am now using 5.10 Ubuntu and  Nautilus crashes from time to time. Anybody else experienced this?
[02:19] <Zodiac> oh yea
[02:19] <Zodiac> big time
[02:19] <marcin_ant> bimberi, so I need to find something different  (as an alternative for zope-cmfphotoalbum)
[02:19] <Zodiac> Right clicking was death for m
[02:20] <Zodiac> But Breezy upgrade fixed that
[02:20] <ian> vaderdarth can't use pcmcia, there is no pcmcia slot
[02:20] <billytwowilly> Seveas, so if I wanted all the packages available in x86 i could just use apt-proxy and pass it the command to download?
[02:20] <Seveas> billytwowilly, no
[02:20] <bimberi> marcin_ant: there was a few if you do a search for "photo album" in synaptic - album, gallery, phpix
[02:20] <locomorto> out of curiosity, did anyone else xorg borking recently in breezy?
[02:21] <Seveas> apt-proxy is a caching proxy server, not a mirroring tool
[02:21] <bimberi> marcin_ant: someone also mentioned f-spot
[02:21] <Seveas> use rsync for that
[02:21] <billytwowilly> Seveas, so I would have to have a mirror setup already?
[02:21] <bz0b> how do I unpack a .gz file, not tar.gz, but just .gz
[02:21] <marcin_ant> bimberi, afaik f-spot wont create online album (but maybe I'm wrong?)
[02:21] <robzon> bz0b: gunzip file.gz
[02:21] <ian> bz0b : gunzip [file] 
[02:21] <Bartimaeus> Hey all, can anyone help with my configuring of apache2?
[02:21] <bz0b> thanks
[02:21] <Seveas> billytwowilly, what do you want to accomplish?
[02:22] <bimberi> marcin_ant: you're probably right - maybe one of the otheres then :)
[02:22] <Seveas> Bartimaeus, be more specific...
[02:22] <billytwowilly> seveas, I want to get all the packages I would need to do a default ubuntu install on a server I can point net install cds at.
[02:22] <marcin_ant> bimberi, ok thanks
[02:22] <Zodiac> Is there any other program for Ubuntu to manage an iPod than GTKpod?
[02:23] <VaderDarth> ian: stick osx on it and sell it on e-bay and buy and old ibm 4 half price with pcmcia
[02:23] <marcin_ant> bimberi, I've been trying with zope because I want to learn python and use zope soon but definetly not today - it's 2:20 here and I need fast solution ;)
[02:23] <Seveas> billytwowilly, then create a mirror from your CD :)
[02:23] <bimberi> marcin_ant: yep, good move, zope is whole new learning curve in itself :)
[02:23] <ian> vaderdarth : thanks, go away
[02:23] <Seveas> Bartimaeus, don't invade peoples private windows...
[02:23] <Bartimaeus> fine
[02:23] <Seveas> it's very impolite
[02:24] <Bartimaeus> oh, sorry
[02:24] <billytwowilly> Seveas, I can't find any documentation on how to do it...
[02:24] <Seveas> billytwowilly, install apache, copy the /ubuntu folder from cd to /var/www on your server and you're set :)
[02:24] <boogster> ping pong
[02:24] <tepus6> how do i set my refresh rate higher when the only option it gives me is 61htz?
[02:25] <Seveas> tepus6, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:25] <Seveas> (or edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually)
[02:25] <billytwowilly> Seveas, Thanks
[02:26] <robzon> ok.. gotta get some sleep.. see ya'll later
[02:26] <h0sl3r> If im using the network proxy tool in fluxbox, but the tool came with gnome, will it still work with fluxbox?
[02:27] <louis_> y0
[02:28] <Belutz> can i pop3 my email into an imap server in my comp, so i could use any MUA to check my email ?
[02:28] <ripgut> :( :( :(
[02:28] <ripgut> the fopppy drive works, linux doesn't
[02:28] <thrush> h0sl3r: yes
[02:28] <grodius> hey im trying to use the music player to play my iPod and its saying "could not open vfs file" and another one saying "could not pause playback"
[02:28] <ripgut> why, i have no clue
[02:28] <grodius> anyone know what that means or how to fix
[02:28] <Seveas> Belutz, fetchmail may help
[02:28] <carthik> grodius use gtkpod
[02:29] <carthik> it plays music too
[02:29] <lastnode> i edited my /etc/fstab and now my hda5 mounts on startup. it doesnt show up in 'places->computer' though
[02:29] <grodius> gtkpod, k where do i find that
[02:29] <lastnode> how can i get it to do this?>
[02:29] <Belutz> Seveas: thx, will search on that
[02:29] <reiki> ripgut: hold a sec...
[02:29] <apokryphos> grodius: gtkpod? It's in the repos.
[02:29] <carthik> grodius google
[02:30] <carthik> lastnode, /dev/hda5 will be mounted at /media or someplace, right?
[02:30] <h0sl3r> ok thanks
[02:30] <lastnode> carthik, it mounts to /media/hda5
[02:30] <lastnode> but it doesnt show up as an icon
[02:30] <bushk> ubuntu kicked serious but getting alsa installed and configured.
[02:30] <tepus6> do i have to restart gnome for the new xorg settings to work?
[02:30] <carthik> okay, so it wont appear in computer://
[02:30] <grodius> sorry i meant should i DL the source or a pack?
[02:30] <tepus6> if so how?
[02:30] <reiki> ripgut: look in your /etc/fstab file ... do you have a line that looks like this:  /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[02:30] <ripgut> wow just not being able to access something as simple as a floppy drive is just , well discouraging,
[02:30] <carthik> lastnode, it will be at /media/hda5 ...
[02:30] <ripgut> ok
[02:31] <lastnode> carthik, yeah i can access it from the shell. i mean it wont show up as a graphical widget
[02:31] <lastnode> icon, whatever
[02:31] <apokryphos> grodius: you can get it from Synaptic.
[02:31] <lastnode> in places - > computer
[02:31] <ripgut> i dont even have an fstab file in /etc/
[02:31] <ripgut> :|
[02:31] <lastnode> cd rom, floppy and filesystem show up
[02:31] <lastnode> apokryphos, mornin :)
[02:31] <tepus6> how do i restart the gui/
[02:31] <lastnode> well evening i guess, for you guys
[02:31] <paulproteus> tepus6: Just log out, then log back in.
[02:31] <tepus6> thatnks
[02:31] <reiki> ripgut: yes ... you do
[02:31] <snausages> tepus6, killall gnome-panel
[02:32] <ripgut> no i dont bro
[02:32] <snausages> well, too late
[02:32] <ripgut> trust me
[02:32] <ripgut> its not in here
[02:32] <grodius> Apokryphos: im really sorry im new to linux exactly how do I do that
[02:32] <lastnode> ripgut, do sudo vi /etc/fstab
[02:32] <louis_> how do i extract properly?
[02:32] <lastnode> or sudo gedit vi /etc/fstab
[02:32] <lastnode> if you want the graphical editor (which'l prolly be easier)
[02:32] <ripgut> ok, its listed in there
[02:32] <apokryphos> grodius: check this:
[02:32] <apokryphos> !synaptic
[02:32] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[02:32] <ds[de] > louis_ extract what?
[02:32] <grodius> !synaptic
[02:33] <louis_> ok
[02:33] <louis_> i download my printers software pack
[02:33] <louis_> and it has like madd things
[02:33] <louis_> what do I do from there
[02:33] <carthik> lastnode it will -- do a nautilus /media/hda5/
[02:33] <thrush> whoohoo got job at sun support HD.  You guys are screwed if you call I know nothing about java
[02:33] <apokryphos> lastnode: hi :)
[02:33] <lastnode> where can i get a list of all the packages at universe, restricted and hoary repos?
[02:33] <ds[de] > what's the filename?
[02:33] <apokryphos> lastnode: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:33] <carthik> lastnode, or in a terminal cd to that directory and then do a $nautilus .
[02:34] <louis_> ok
[02:34] <louis_> hold up
[02:34] <lastnode> carthik, do i need to add this to fstab as well
[02:34] <carthik> lastnode, no no
[02:34] <lastnode> so itl work on startup
[02:34] <lastnode> no i mean, it has to do that every startup right
[02:35] <carthik> lastnode yes - if you want to browse to that location, click on the "filesystem" icon in the Computer:// nautilus window -> media -> hda5
[02:35] <ripgut> ok, i can see the fstab file and floppy is listed in it, now what do i do
[02:35] <carthik> lastnode, yeah it is mounted just fine, and you can browse to it just fine too
[02:35] <mik3> how do i enable sshd on my box so i can ssh in?
[02:36] <thrush> apt-get openssh-server? should set everything up
[02:36] <carthik> mik3, apt-get install openssh-server
[02:36] <lastnode> carthik, thanks that worked! :) but it still wont show up under 'computer'
[02:36] <lastnode> but this is minor, thanks for the help
[02:36] <lastnode> brb, anything directed at me in a query please
[02:37] <carthik> lastnode, only the automounted drives will show directly in Computer
[02:37] <lastnode> else i might miss it
[02:37] <thrush> mik3: you might think about changing the default port in sshd_config
[02:37] <odatubuntu> hello everyone
[02:37] <cvt> test
[02:37] <windex> cvt, failed
[02:38] <cvt> do i have a sound card?
[02:38] <ripgut> ok, anyone?
[02:38] <odatubuntu> was hoping someone could tell me how to uninstall simcity 3000 unlimited
[02:38] <windex> ripgut, you want to mount a floppy?
[02:38] <cvt> Do i have the correct output plugin selected?
[02:38] <ripgut> uhm, yup
[02:38] <louis_> help
[02:38] <carthik> rigput, sorry but does the floppy drive read the floppy when you insert it?
[02:38] <windex> ripgut, are you using gnome?
[02:38] <cvt> Is another program blocking my soundcard?
[02:38] <louis_> is there remote desktop asistance with linux
[02:38] <ripgut> im using gnome
[02:38] <bz0b> hey all
[02:38] <windex> ripgut, places->computer .. floppy 1.
[02:38] <bz0b> i am trying to sudo something, and its not allowing me to
[02:39] <cvt> will you help me get full video support now plz kthx?
[02:39] <ripgut> i know that windex, it wont let me mount it
[02:39] <cvt> i can't install mplayer because it says i need the cd
[02:39] <windex> ripgut, hm.
[02:39] <ripgut> yea, i know
[02:39] <thrush> louis_: whats the problem?
[02:40] <ripgut> linux is weird to not be able to support a simple thing as a floppy drive
[02:40] <ripgut> i mean cmon
[02:40] <louis_> ok
[02:40] <bz0b> pretty much anything is working
[02:40] <louis_> thrush
[02:40] <windex> ripgut, have you tried sudo mount /media/floppy0 ?
[02:40] <louis_> can we one on one
[02:40] <ripgut> yup windex
[02:40] <louis_> please so we can get this printer working
[02:40] <louis_> plese
[02:40] <windex> ripgut, what's it say?
[02:40] <louis_> ok
[02:40] <boogster> what is better vi or emacs?
[02:40] <glick> hi all
[02:40] <louis_> I downloaded the cupswrapper
[02:40] <cafuego_> ripgut: linux supports floppies just fine. Just not _yours_.
[02:40] <glick> excuse me, when breezy comes out out will it be difficult to upgrade from hoary?
[02:40] <odatubuntu> anyone know how to uninstall simcity
[02:40] <louis_> for my 210c brother printer
[02:40] <louis_> now what do I do
[02:40] <louis_> I extract it right
[02:40] <cafuego_> ripgut: This impliues something is wrong with _your_ drive or disk.
[02:40] <louis_> well ?
[02:40] <glick> boogster, go with emacs if you have time to waste learning every command
[02:41] <louis_> i do that but I'm missing something here
[02:41] <glick> use vim if you want to learn a few commmands and get work done
[02:41] <boogster> ok
[02:41] <windex> cafuego, i was getting to that.
[02:41] <windex> cafuego, :)
[02:41] <HAMM3R> How can I make mbmon be able to run by a user other than root? I need this so that phpsysinfo can run it to display the stats.
[02:41] <louis_> I need support for this
[02:41] <ripgut> ok, sudo mount /media/floppy0 is asking me to specify a filesystem type
[02:41] <lastnode> can someone link me to a listing of packages available at the repos?
[02:41] <louis_> I go into some rooms and cant register my name
[02:41] <ripgut> its a disk with MS word documents on it
[02:41] <ripgut> is taht the reason why it wont work
[02:41] <ssdd65> ok i ran the new xorg configuration....
[02:42] <cafuego_> ripgutThen run 'sudo mount -t vfat /media/floppy0'
[02:42] <ssdd65> but im gettin alot of messed up text
[02:42] <carthik> rigput try sudo mount -t vfat /media/floppy0
[02:42] <ssdd65> what do i do?
[02:42] <windex> ripgut, what OS formatted the disk?
[02:42] <ripgut> windows
[02:42] <windex> hm.
[02:42] <cafuego_> ripgut: If that doesn't work, it's busted.
[02:42] <boogster> rsgw4 GT
[02:42] <glick> ?
[02:42] <louis_> help
[02:42] <glick> will it be an easy upgrade?
[02:42] <windex> ripgut, i have successfully done what you are trying to do. i am going to guess the disk is messed up.
[02:42] <ripgut> im think so also
[02:42] <ripgut> aw well
[02:43] <ripgut> thanks for the help guys, really, i appreciate it
[02:43] <ripgut> sorry for sounding like a moron
[02:43] <ripgut> but its frustrating
[02:43] <boogster> just don't stick your dick in the floppy drive, then you'll be a moron
[02:43] <windex> ripgut, it is, i agree. it should be giving you an error.
[02:43] <transgress> okay i got ndiswrapper compiled... but it says error insterting ndiswrapper Invalid module format
[02:43] <ripgut> now to get my Zen Micro working.......................
[02:43] <transgress> i just handcompiled it... how can it be the wrong format?
[02:44] <odatubuntu> can anyone help me fix a relocation error?
[02:44] <cafuego_> transgress: The versions strings don't match.
[02:44] <transgress> cafuego_: eh?  and how can i fix this?
[02:44] <grodius> apokryphos: im inside synaptic and i cant see gtkpod on the list
[02:44] <apokryphos> !info gtkpod
[02:44] <ubotu> gtkpod: (manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod), section universe/sound, is extra. Version: 0.88-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 383 kB, Installed size: 1140 kB
[02:45] <apokryphos> grodius: you need to enable the universe repository. See this...
[02:45] <cvt> generally speaking... password complexity isn't that important for me, is it?
[02:45] <apokryphos> !repositories
[02:45] <ubotu> repositories is, like, totally, probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:45] <cafuego_> transgress: Compile it with the right make-kpkg params, so the version strings match.
[02:45] <thrush> louis_: what model is your printer again?
[02:45] <transgress> cafuego_: herm okay... i'll do my best
[02:45] <odatubuntu> sc3u: relocation error: sc3u: symbol _dl_global_scope, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference
[02:46] <odatubuntu> anyone know what i should do to fix this?
[02:46] <cafuego_> odatubuntu: What did you install?
[02:46] <louis_> brother
[02:46] <louis_> mfc-210c
[02:46] <odatubuntu> cafuego_ simcity 3000
[02:46] <louis_> i got the cups wrapper on my desktop!
[02:46] <transgress> cafuego_: know of a page so that i can learn a bit about doing that?
[02:46] <louis_> what do I do with it now
[02:46] <cafuego_> odatubuntu: Okay, that's just not going to run.
[02:46] <louis_> thrush can we one on one
[02:46] <cafuego_> odatubuntu: Which Ubuntu version you on?
[02:46] <odatubuntu> cafuego_ breezy
[02:47] <louis_> ubuntu
[02:47] <cafuego_> odatubuntu: Downgrade to hoary, try again (or try in a hoary chroot).
[02:47] <thrush> louis_: you want to keep the discussion in here I dont know that much about printers in linux =)
[02:47] <Juul> hey, i have a dell d410 laptop and the mouse sensitivity setting in 'mouse preferences' seems to have little or no effect on my nipple mouse
[02:47] <odatubuntu> cafuego_ why won't it run in breezy?
[02:47] <louis_> ok
[02:47] <louis_> the folder is on my desktop
[02:47] <louis_> do I extract it or what?
[02:47] <ssdd65> y do i get garbled text and how can i fix it?
[02:48] <thrush> louis_: what is the full filename?
[02:48] <cafuego_> odatubuntu: It can't find the particular libc6 version it requires to run.
[02:48] <cafuego_> odatubuntu: Hoary has a slightly older one, it might work there.
[02:48] <louis_> file:///home/louis/Desktop/cupswrapperMFC210C-1.0.0-1.i386.rpm
[02:48] <odatubuntu> cafuego_  how do i uninstall then?
[02:49] <thrush> louis_: ok i THINK alien -d filename
[02:49] <louis_> ok
[02:49] <louis_> whats that?
[02:49] <cafuego_> odatubuntu: What, Ubuntu? Don't bother, best bet (for testing anyway) is to run a chroot with hoary stuff in it. The 'debootstrap' package will help you do that easily.
[02:49] <cafuego_> !info alien
[02:49] <ubotu> alien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.50 (hoary), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 288 kB
[02:49] <thrush> open up a terminal and go to your desktop
[02:50] <boogster> is Gentoo much faster than ubuntu? is gentoo not better for non-n00bs?
[02:50] <thrush> and type that
[02:50] <louis_> ok
[02:50] <carthik> boogster, yes, ubuntu no good
[02:50] <thrush> louis_: alien -d whatever
[02:50] <boogster> ok
[02:50] <apokryphos> boogster: Gentoo is much harder for newbies.
[02:50] <cafuego_> boogster: No, gentoo is a lot slower, since you need to wait for stuff to compile before you can run it.
[02:50] <ripgut> can someone pm me and tell me waht this error means and how to fix it
[02:50] <thrush> ach nm
[02:50] <cafuego_> boogster: non-noobs know this and don't bother with Gentoo.
[02:51] <Versed> I found ubuntu fairly easy and I am clueless.
[02:51] <Marruk> does anyone know if mandiriva is any good?
[02:51] <odatubuntu> cafuego_ i would like to just uninstall it
[02:51] <apokryphos> The old Gentoo joke: "Gentoo are once again the first to package X, and the last to use it"
[02:51] <carthik> Marruk never triedit
[02:51] <apokryphos> *g*
[02:51] <boogster> but compiling makes apps go faster,
[02:51] <apokryphos> boogster: a myth
[02:51] <ripgut> anyone?
[02:51] <thrush> louis_: alien -i filename
[02:51] <boogster> ok
[02:52] <Versed> I've putz with fedora and suse on an intel system, they were OK, this I put on my g4 450, it installed almost as easy as an OSX install.
[02:52] <carthik> boogster, yeah, right that is why ubuntu ships pre-compiled packages -"Compiling makes things go"
[02:52] <glick> boogster, what the hell does it matter if the software your running was compiled on your pentium4 or on some other guy's pentium 4
[02:52] <glick> ?
[02:52] <Versed> including wifi, which I could never get going on other platforms.
[02:52] <glick> your runnin the same damn code
[02:52] <glick> if you recompile
[02:52] <glick> just wastin your damn time
[02:52] <boogster>  - it does since i'm using amd64
[02:53] <glick> they have compiled binaries for amd
[02:53] <carthik> boogster, stick to whatever's good for you - quit proselytising
[02:53] <thrush> then alien -d filename
[02:53] <thrush> louis_: of the deb file it creates
[02:53] <glick> i dont know if they have ubuntu 64 out there yet though
[02:53] <boogster> yes but if i compile it in my machine the application will be faster than the binary?
[02:53] <cvt> carthik, is that the right spelling?
[02:53] <ripgut> anyone?
[02:53] <bob2> boogster: not in general
[02:54] <carthik> cvt, autocomplete doesnt work on words, yet ;)
[02:54] <bob2> ripgut: paste the error to #flood
[02:54] <louis_> dude ur talking shit to me I dont understand this shit
[02:54] <boogster> so compiling is for homos?
[02:54] <bob2> boogster: er, no
[02:54] <ripgut> join #flood
[02:54] <louis_> i'm trying to install and use my fucking printer
[02:54] <louis_> i extracted it
[02:54] <bob2> boogster: also, please maintain some basic level of maturity, please
[02:54] <transgress> louis_: is that different than a normal printer?
[02:54] <bob2> louis_: language, please
[02:54] <AdmiralSenn> hey everyone... again
[02:54] <chavo> boogster, compiling is for people with clues
[02:55] <glick> boogster, compiling is for people that know what the hell their doing, and if you ask "So compiling is for homos?' you dont know what the hell your doin
[02:55] <earthen> is there a good program for sync'in a palm
[02:55] <louis_> hey bob suck my dick
[02:55] <carthik> cvt - it was
[02:55] <boogster> so everyone should use gentoo?
[02:55] <carthik> boogster, YES
[02:55] <boogster> gentoo is the ricer os
[02:55] <louis_> its a brother 210c
[02:55] <transgress> is make-kpkg in apt or something?
[02:55] <bob2> earthen: jpilot is popular
[02:55] <bob2> transgress: kernel-package
[02:55] <bob2> boogster: no, people "should" use whatever they prefer
[02:56] <apokryphos> speedy irssi ;-)
[02:56] <earthen> bob2, can I atp-get it
[02:56] <glick> gentoo users think their leet cause they can type 'make' on a commandline and watch all the compiler messages go by
[02:56] <hknezer> hey if i want to install breezy badger preview release and want to dual boot winxp and ubuntu on a 160gb hd, what's a good amount of space i should partition for ubuntu? i've already used ~20gb for windows but want to use ubuntu primarily
[02:56] <glick> their like "ooooh look at me im compiling"
[02:56] <AdmiralSenn> anyone have any ideas as to why UT2K4 would run like crap and yet glxgears scores over 2000?
[02:56] <bob2> ripgut: you're either installing a binary without it's dependencies, or you didn't update /etc/ld.so.conf to take into account the fact you put libs in an odd place
[02:56] <glick> "i must be hardcore"
[02:56] <boogster> is the gentoo installer a real POS?
[02:56] <bob2> AdmiralSenn: glxgears output is not a useful indication of anything
[02:56] <bob2> boogster: #gentoo
[02:56] <AdmiralSenn> k, never mind that then
[02:56] <Gobbla> hknezer, 60
[02:57] <boogster> ok
[02:57] <Gobbla> -80
[02:57] <nalioth> anyone know an Works Out Of the Box usb wifi adaptor ?
[02:57] <Orby> ummm is anyone else having problems getting to the ubuntu forums or is it just me ?
[02:57] <hknezer> if i accidentally partitioned less than that already
[02:57] <Gobbla> thats what i would use anyway..
[02:57] <hknezer> is there a way to get that back from the installer
[02:57] <bob2> nalioth: negear ma-111
[02:57] <hknezer> or do i need an external program
[02:57] <Gobbla> just repartionate it..
[02:57] <bob2> hknezer: you can go back, or just start over
[02:57] <cafuego_> bob2: that a prism54 in all incarnations?
[02:57] <ripgut> ok, bob2 i have a creative zen micro, and i know i need gnomad2, but it dont work with this particualr creative player, how do i get it to work, since i know it supports all other crative players.
[02:57] <bob2> cafuego_: prism2_usb, afaik
[02:57] <AdmiralSenn> anyway, the sound in ut2k4 is great, no chops, but the menus are horribly slow and the maps take forever to load - so long that I gave up and shut it down
[02:58] <bob2> ripgut: you learn how to hack C and fix it
[02:58] <cafuego_> ah ok, so not 802.11g
[02:58] <bob2> cafuego_: right
[02:58] <bob2> cafuego_: it's only usb 1.0, anyway ;)
[02:58] <ripgut> uhm, english please? :P
[02:58] <bob2> ripgut: do you know how to program C?
[02:58] <hknezer> because now in windows, c:\ is only like 40gb with ~120gb unallocated
[02:58] <ripgut> no
[02:58] <nalioth> bob2: ty
[02:58] <ripgut> i dont know any programmin
[02:58] <bob2> ripgut: then it's unlikely you can add support yourself
[02:58] !lilo:*! Of possible interest to politics enthusiasts: the U.S. President, George W. Bush, is apparently giving an address in about 5 minutes. For those who may be interested in following it, feel free to stop by ##bush .... try not to heckle each other, kay? :)
[02:58] <hknezer> so you're saying i can just start over
[02:58] <hknezer> and repartition it?
[02:58] <bob2> ripgut: you can email the author or their user mailing list and ask
[02:58] <ripgut> so basically im screwed
[02:58] <bob2> hknezer: yes
[02:58] <lastnode> when breezy becomes stable, i can just auto get the update right?
[02:59] <cafuego_> lastnode: yes
[02:59] <hknezer> cool, i'll try that, thanks!
[02:59] <bob2> lastnode: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[02:59] <Orby> ummm is anyone else having problems getting to the ubuntu forums or is it just me ?
[02:59] <lastnode> thanks
[02:59] <AdmiralSenn> Orby: I am too
[02:59] <AdmiralSenn> suddenly just stopped
[02:59] <Orby> yea
[02:59] <Orby> glad it isnt just me then :)
[02:59] <BlueEagle> Hehe. 267 packages needing upgrade after installing breezy from the preview disc. :)
[03:00] <VersusGod> anyone get cdemu installed in hoary?
[03:00] <flodine> does breezy have 2 disc
[03:00] <apokryphos> flodine: no, one install cd.
[03:00] <BlueEagle> flodine: You've got one live-cd and one install-cd.
[03:00] <bob2> VersusGod: that doesn't appear to be in ubuntu; what is it?
[03:00] <rogerio> When Ubuntu 5.10 will be avaliable for ship?
[03:00] <flodine> is it ready to install
[03:00] <BlueEagle> flodine: the live-cd is linux that run off a CD, the install-cd, well you can probably gues.s
[03:01] <lastnode> when i do sudo vi /etc/init.d
[03:01] <lastnode> vi tells me the file is unmodifiable
[03:01] <lastnode> ?
[03:01] <bob2> rogerio: a few weeks
[03:01] <bob2> lastnode: that's a directory
[03:01] <VersusGod> CDemu is a kernel module for Linux. It is designed to simulate a CD drive + CD with just simple cue/bin files
[03:01] <BlueEagle> flodine: I just installed it. Had some issues with the keyboard, but nothing serious. It's not flawless. Especially not with norwegian (bokmaal) locale.
[03:01] <thewayofzen> if i wanna switch my gnome splash screen..
[03:01] <AdmiralSenn> bah
[03:01] <thewayofzen> where do i find it..
[03:01] <bob2> flodine: do you care about nvidia binary drivers?
[03:01] <thewayofzen> forums are down sorry :(
[03:01] <AdmiralSenn> I had trouble getting cdemu to work for some reason
[03:01] <s4f3_m0d3> what is the link to ubuntu guide for ppc linux?
[03:01] <lastnode> bob2, how do i edit the startup commands?
[03:01] <lastnode> i want to comment out the searching for dhcp stage
[03:01] <flodine> last time i tried it wouldnt load a bootloader
[03:02] <BlueEagle> s4f3_m0d3: is there one?
[03:02] <bob2> s4f3_m0d3: ubuntuguide.org, it's really not very arcihtecture-specific
[03:02] <bob2> lastnode: that's not how you do that
[03:02] <bob2> lastnode: whether or not to use dhcp is configured in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:02] <bob2> flodine: please file a bug then
[03:02] <s4f3_m0d3> bob2, it used to have a link to a ppc version and an amd64 version
[03:02] <bob2> AdmiralSenn: by not just use bchunk?
[03:02] <AdmiralSenn> bob2: I did
[03:02] <AdmiralSenn> worked like a charm
[03:02] <lastnode> bob2, i _need_ dhcp but dont want ubuntu to look for it at startup
[03:02] <bob2> thewayofzen: the first hit for "ubuntu gnome splash screen change" explains how
[03:02] <qmanman> thewayofzen: /usr/share/pixmaps/splash
[03:03] <bob2> lastnode: ...then remove the auto blah line
[03:03] <thewayofzen> qmanman, thanks.
[03:03] <thewayofzen> bob2,  perfect.
[03:03] <boogster> the guys at #gentoo say that ubuntu is for n00bs
[03:03] <rogerio> bob2, because i requested one cd few weeks back and i have no news about my request right now...
[03:03] <thewayofzen> bob2,  it would be nice if the forums were connecting though
[03:03] <tepus6> anyone ever get a savage 2000 workin with 3d acceleration?
[03:03] <BlueEagle> boogster: ...so?
[03:03] <AdmiralSenn> boogster: that's because it actually works
[03:03] <othernoob> boogster: it is for noobs..
[03:03] <tepus6> or anycard with 3d for that matter?
[03:03] <thewayofzen> thats why i asked.
[03:03] <bob2> boogster: I'm not sure what their clueless opinion is actually worth
[03:04] <othernoob> AdmiralSenn: gentoo works as well
[03:04] <AdmiralSenn> naturally others think of it as a newbie distro because you don't have to be a 1337 h4x0r to get stuff working...
[03:04] <bob2> tepus6: savage is harder because the drivers seem to be break
[03:04] <AdmiralSenn> well
[03:04] <BlueEagle> boogster: We here at #ubuntu sais gentoo is for wannabe hax0rs.
[03:04] <AdmiralSenn> that's true
[03:04] <bob2> tepus6: lots of people happily use nvidia, ati or intel cards fine
[03:04] <qmanman> anyone having issues with the latest breezy updates?
[03:04] <tlapaso> Right -- If I may jump in -- I am very happy w/Ubuntu so for. It, along with SuSE seem to be the best for use noobs...
[03:04] <lastnode> bob2, in /etc/network/interfaces? thanks. but what if i want to mess with my startup procedure
[03:04] <lastnode> what do i edit?
[03:04] <bob2> rogerio: I'd wait a few more weeks
[03:04] <bob2> lastnode: you need to be a lot more specific
[03:04] <AdmiralSenn> but I see a lot of gentoo users going 'Hah, I just compile EVERYTHING and it works'
[03:04] <bob2> qmanman: lots of people; if you have issues, please report bugs
[03:04] <cafuego_> boogster: the problem with people that sue gentoo, is that BECAUSE they chose gentoo and sue it, their opinion on ANYTHING doesn't count.
[03:04] <bob2> thewayofzen: ok
[03:04] <Orby> heh i come from gentoo to ubuntu cos i hated waiting for things to install! some simple update of nvidia drivers would require me to recompile me kernel! sod that ubuntu all the way :D
[03:04] <VersusGod> when I use bchunk to convert the .cue/bin to a .iso, it doesn't mount properly
[03:04] <tepus6> so should i not bother tryin it with 3d?
[03:04] <cafuego_> boogster: See http://www.funroll-loops.org/ for more info.
[03:05] <tlapaso> Guess what, all the entoo users were at one time noobs too.
[03:05] <AdmiralSenn> VersusGod: uh oh
[03:05] <tepus6> (i do have driver issues)
[03:05] <bob2> tepus6: it might be worth it, but it will be fiddly
[03:05] <VersusGod> its a kvcd
[03:05] <AdmiralSenn> oh
[03:05] <BlueEagle> boogster: Tell you one thing. Ubuntu is just as customizable as gentoo is. It's just that gentoo forces you to do that tedious customization while ubuntu has got sensible (well, somewhat sensible) defaults.
[03:05] <AdmiralSenn> a vcd... dunno if bchunk is supposed to handle that
[03:05] <BlueEagle> admiralsenn: ut2400?
[03:05] <AdmiralSenn> 2004
[03:06] <cvt> i need distros to start installing full video capabilities by default.
[03:06] <nalioth> bob2: so i can buy one of those ma-111s, stick it in my ibook and get on the net?
[03:06] <cvt> are we not in the year 2005?
[03:06] <bob2> AdmiralSenn: what would "mounting a vcd" mean, anyway? it doesn't have any files in it.
[03:06] <AdmiralSenn> bob2: good point
[03:06] <bob2> nalioth: with a bit of fiddling, yes
[03:06] <tlapaso> One question, if I may: During the installation process I was not asked to supply a root password. Well, now I need it an I do not know the root password. Is there a standard Ubuntu root password??
[03:06] <bob2> AdmiralSenn: if you want o play it, use mplayer
[03:06] <AdmiralSenn> wait
[03:06] <bob2> tlapaso: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[03:06] <AdmiralSenn> I don't want to play it
[03:06] <lastnode> bob2, cant i edit /etc/init.d ? I swear i edited something like that yesterday. someone in this channel said to..
[03:06] <bob2> tlapaso: the installer explaiend that to you, and it's in the faq
[03:06] <VersusGod> mplayer wont touch it
[03:06] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell tlapaso about root
[03:06] <AdmiralSenn> I don't have a kvcd
[03:07] <nalioth> bob2: i'm asking for a new user. would like an ootb solution
[03:07] <bob2> lastnode: no, it's a directory
[03:07] <paulproteus> cvt: Problem is, much video stuff is non-free.
[03:07] <BlueEagle> tlapaso: sudo
[03:07] <othernoob> VersusGod: vlc will play the bin for sure, besides that, just burn it with k3b
[03:07] <paulproteus> Like MP3 decoding (grr).
[03:07] <bob2> nalioth: then no, I'm not aware of any usb devices that actually work out of the box
[03:07] <BlueEagle> tlapaso: Got me the first time around too. :)
[03:07] <odatubuntu> can anyone help me solve this error?
[03:07] <cvt> paulproteus, if that has to do with the law, then i think we should break it.
[03:07] <odatubuntu> sc3u: relocation error: sc3u: symbol _dl_global_scope, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference
[03:07] <paulproteus> cvt: Problem is, Canonical Incorporated can't break the law.
[03:07] <tepus6> how do i make a attempt at settin up 3d?
[03:07] <hknezer> ok, so i'm in partition disks now
[03:07] <bob2> odatubuntu: why runnning what?
[03:07] <tlapaso> I see!! TY!!
[03:07] <cvt> the law needs to be replaced.
[03:07] <tepus6> (my drivers are installed)
[03:07] <paulproteus> cvt: MEPIS ships with a lot of this stuff by default, but not usually legally.
[03:07] <hknezer> and i see #1 primary 49.3 fat16 /media/sda1
[03:07] <BlueEagle> cvt: Tell that to the lawyers. :)
[03:08] <hknezer> #2 primary 40.0 gb ntfs /media/sda2
[03:08] <bob2> tepus6: not aware of any ubuntu documentation for savage; what did google say?
[03:08] <hknezer> pri/log 116.7 gb free space
[03:08] <hknezer> how do i get that free space back into #2
[03:08] <paulproteus> cvt: It's not "law" that needs to be replaced, it's the use of formats that are illegal to distribute decoders for.
[03:08] <paulproteus> cvt: Unless you want to destroy patents entirely.
[03:08] <VersusGod> alright thanks guys
[03:08] <bob2> nalioth: it requires using linux-wlan-ng user tools, which are not really integrated into anything else
[03:08] <s4f3_m0d3> how do i enable dma on a macintosh?
[03:08] <odatubuntu> bob2 hey man whats up
[03:08] <paulproteus> cvt: Software patents are actually pretty much open-shut bad, actually, and they don't have them in Europe.
[03:08] <s4f3_m0d3> i need to enable dma on the dvd drive
[03:08] <odatubuntu> bob2: i am trying to play simcity 3000
[03:08] <bob2> s4f3_m0d3: hdparm, generally
[03:08] <s4f3_m0d3> a macintosh running ubuntu, but still
[03:09] <nalioth> bob2: more info: i need an ootb solution for ppc
[03:09] <paulproteus> s4f3_m0d3: What /dev/hdX is it?  Just do "hdparm -d1 /dev/hdX"
[03:09] <bob2> nalioth: then you're boned
[03:09] <s4f3_m0d3> bob2, can you tell me what to type? i don't want to break it?
[03:09] <bob2> nalioth: (afaik)
[03:09] <odatubuntu> bob2: apparently this is all over google but i can't find and /or decipher a fix
[03:09] <BlueEagle> paulproteus: Isn't all mac drives sdX?
[03:09] <AdmiralSenn> is there a ut2k4 chan on freenode?
[03:09] <BlueEagle> :p
[03:09] <bob2> odatubuntu: unlikely to be fixable
[03:09] <paulproteus> BlueEagle: Not since 1999.
[03:09] <nalioth> bob2: ty
[03:09] <bob2> odatubuntu: unless you run sim city in a woody chroot (that's what I did with loki's alpha centauri)
[03:10] <bob2> nalioth: unless it's an older laptop and yo ucan get a normal airport for it
[03:10] <transgress> so it seems breezy hates ndiswrapper
[03:10] <odatubuntu> bob2: is that a pain?
[03:10] <bob2> odatubuntu: not too bad
[03:10] <bob2> transgress: please file bugs!
[03:10] <hknezer> anybody?
[03:10] <bob2> odatubuntu: but not simple, either
[03:10] <transgress> bob2: yeah sure thing... where at?
[03:10] <nalioth> bob2: unfortunatly it's not
[03:10] <bob2> transgress: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[03:10] <h0sl3r> VMware is asking for the C headers to my kernel. I downloaded my kernel source with synaptic and later extracted and made a symolic link to /usr/src/linux. Where are the C headers located?
[03:10] <odatubuntu> bob2: hmmm i would rather just uninstall how do i do that?
[03:10] <lihaile> irc://irc.freenode.net#ubuntu
[03:10] <bob2> h0sl3r: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:11] <bob2> h0sl3r: the kernel source is of no use in this case
[03:11] <h0sl3r> bob2: i think i allready did that too, but where are they?
[03:11] <bob2> odatubuntu: it has no instructions? I'm pretty sure loki has an installer
[03:11] <bob2> h0sl3r: /usr/src/
[03:11] <bob2> odatubuntu: uninstaller, that is
[03:11] <enchanter> How to create blog and wiki?
[03:11] <bob2> hknezer: you want to make the windows partition 160GB?
[03:11] <bob2> enchanter: www.blogger.com
[03:11] <h0sl3r> bob2: ok thanks
[03:11] <odatubuntu> bob2: yea i saw it in the directory of simcity but i'm not sure how to execute it
[03:11] <transgress> bob2: can i file a bug report for something that isn't an actual package?  i was compiling from a) the ndiswrapper-source package... which failed... then i compiled from source, and it tells me it cannot insert, but after two compilations i'm sure i got the stuff correct.
[03:11] <hknezer> bob2: not really
[03:11] <bob2> odatubuntu: ./blah
[03:12] <carthik> enchanter get on livejournal
[03:12] <bob2> hknezer: then what are yo ureally trying to do?
[03:12] <hknezer> but i want to have 60gb for ubuntu
[03:12] <hknezer> and the rest for windows
[03:12] <hknezer> as was suggested, correct?
[03:12] <odatubuntu> bob2: in the same directory as simcity?
[03:12] <bob2> transgress: if the pre-built ubuntu ndiswrapper module doesn't work, do file a bug
[03:12] <hknezer> the problem is, i don't really know what i'm doing -- which is obvious
[03:12] <enchanter> thanks. but I hope to create a server on my computer
[03:12] <bob2> enchanter: then install apache2, moin and whatever weblog software you like
[03:13] <bob2> hknezer: which part is confusing you?
[03:13] <hknezer> well, i move the cursor/highlighted row to pri/log
[03:13] <enchanter> bob2, I just hope to know the whatever weblog software is on ubuntu
[03:13] <bob2> enchanter: there's dozens
[03:13] <hknezer> and i can create a new partition
[03:13] <apokryphos> enchanter: blosxom is good
[03:13] <hknezer> right?
[03:13] <carthik> enchanter an older version of wordpress is in universe
[03:13] <bob2> hknezer: when selecting the feee space, yes
[03:13] <hknezer> but i don't see how to merge that with #2
[03:13] <hknezer> isn't that what i want to do?
[03:13] <cvt> how were you all able to get audio support?
[03:13] <odatubuntu> bob2: i don't get anything using ./blah
[03:13] <enchanter> thanks a lot
[03:14] <carthik> enchanter, use synaptic and search in "description"
[03:14] <bob2> hknezer: you need to be more specific about this merging business
[03:14] <hknezer> ok
[03:14] <hknezer> in the beginning
[03:14] <hknezer> all 160gb or so
[03:14] <bob2> cvt: if sound does not work for you out of the box, file a bug
[03:14] <hknezer> was for windows
[03:14] <bob2> hknezer: ideally on one line...
[03:14] <odatubuntu> bob2: lolol god i'm an idiot sometimes
[03:14] <odatubuntu> geeez
[03:14] <hknezer> sure sorry.  i accidentally partitioned off 116 for free space, but now i want 60 for ubuntu and the remaining 100 for windows. i don't know how to get from where i am now, to what i want. does that make sense?
[03:14] <odatubuntu> i got it
[03:15] <fevel> hi...i have two sound cards, i would like to configure my pci sound card as default instead of the onboard
[03:15] <fevel> i know there are threads in the forum
[03:15] <fevel> but im getting connection refused
[03:15] <fevel> can someone help me
[03:15] <bob2> hknezer: select the free space, make a 60gb ubuntu partition, tell it to put it at the end
[03:15] <bob2> fevel: disable it in the bios
[03:16] <fevel> ok
[03:16] <fevel> ill try
[03:16] <hknezer> bob2: ok, going to make a 60gb logical partition
[03:16] <fevel> b back soon ;)
[03:16] <benplaut> is there any way to make 'login flags
[03:16] <benplaut> *more coming
[03:16] <h0sl3r> bob2: now vmware is looking for a linux subdirectory with version.h. The C headers I just downloaded doesnt have it.
[03:16] <bob2> h0sl3r: yes, it does, I built the vmware modules yesterday
[03:16] <hknezer> bob2: so now i have 56.7 gb of free space...is there a way to give that back to windows?
[03:17] <bob2> h0sl3r: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5-686/include/linux/version.h
[03:17] <cvt> how do i start apps again in the terminal?
[03:17] <odatubuntu> bob2: thanx man
[03:17] <benplaut> is there any way to make 'login flags' so that i can choose, for instance, a 'school' mode where gaim and skype doesn' come up, or a home mode, where all my forums open up, etc?
[03:17] <cvt> start gtypist?
[03:17] <bob2> cvt: type their name...
[03:17] <h0sl3r> ok
[03:18] <bob2> benplaut: you can make different login accounts
[03:18] <ubuntu_> hehe
[03:18] <h0sl3r> bob2: yeah forgot the include subdirectory when typing
[03:19] <benplaut> bob2: without going that far... i still want the same settings and /home/files...
[03:19] <teasick> :D
[03:19] <teasick> hi everybody~!
[03:19] <bob2> benplaut: then probably not, at least in the way you're thinking
[03:19] <teasick> @@
[03:19] <cvt> out of the box how should i be able to play an mp3?
[03:20] <cvt> totem?
[03:20] <cvt> because none of my players are handling my mp3.
[03:20] <bob2> cvt: nope
[03:20] <nalioth> !tell cvt about restricted
[03:20] <transgress> gonna have to install either hoary or fedora on the lappy... gotta have ndiswrapper working...
[03:20] <bob2> cvt: this is in the FAQ, of course; wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:20] <nalioth> cvt: read what ubotu has sent you
[03:20] <bob2> transgress: breezy's built in ndiswrapper did not work?
[03:20] <benplaut> bob2: i think i can do it with sessions... bored2k in #ubuntuforums thinks so... :P
[03:20] <transgress> bob2: there isn't a package for it in amd64
[03:21] <bob2> they have their own channel?
[03:21] <bob2> bleh
[03:21] <windex> has anyone used parted to resize ntfs?
[03:21] <bob2> transgress: ndiswrapper-source
[03:21] <transgress> bob2: doesn't compile.
[03:21] <[Spooky] > cvt: what ubuntu do you have ? i have hoary 5.04 and uses the add/remove programs and add xmms and can play mp3s...
[03:21] <h0sl3r> bob2: which is a good windows to use for just being able to run windows apps?
[03:22] <cvt> i don't know, they just mailed it to me 4 months ago.
[03:22] <nalioth> h0sl3r: if you run wine, win9x is the best for the dlls and such
[03:22] <bur[n] er> robzon: u still there by chance?
[03:22] <nalioth> h0sl3r: i dont recommend you run windows
[03:22] <hknezer> bob2: am i missing something conceptually here
[03:23] <h0sl3r> nalioth: wine doesnt work for everything i need. I got vmware, and yeah i was thinking 9x too.
[03:23] <transgress> bob2: for ndiswrapper-source would i just apt-get -b source ndiswrapper-source or do i need to do something else?
[03:23] <bur[n] er> vmware as slow as kqemu?
[03:23] <bob2> transgress: no, it's a package, install it normally, then look in /usr/src/
[03:23] <nalioth> h0sl3r: if you must give in to selfabuse, use win98se
[03:23] <bob2> hknezer: ok
[03:23] <transgress> bob2: k
[03:23] <transgress> got a big update running now... let it finish and i'll go for it
[03:24] <Nalos> Hey I got a quick question, whats a good prog for playing mp3/mpeg and streaming media...
[03:24] <bur[n] er> Nalos: rhythmbox/beep-media-player
[03:25] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Nalos about players
[03:25] <saik0> and banshee on breezy =)
[03:25] <cvt> i've read that link a dozen times
[03:26] <h0sl3r> anyone in here use vmware?
[03:26] <cvt> i think this is where  we part ways since we mutually can't help each other.
[03:26] <cvt> goodbye and goodluck.
[03:26] <saik0> !tell h0sl3r about ask
[03:26] <concept10> Is the Eclipse IDE available for Hoary?
[03:27] <bob2> concept10: yes
[03:27] <SQL_Sam> hello everyone, I'm a newb.  Can someone tell me how I refresh the KDE desktop?
[03:27] <cafuego_> try hitting F5
[03:27] <bob2> SQL_Sam: try #kubuntu
[03:27] <concept10> bob2: what should I fetch?
[03:27] <nalioth> SQL_Sam: log out and back in
[03:28] <othernoob> SQL_Sam: right click on it and select "Refresh Desktop" perhaps?
[03:28] <SQL_Sam> log out?  this is linux not M$
[03:28] <bob2> concept10: the massive eclipse tarball from their website
[03:28] <bob2> concept10: and the jdk from sun's website
[03:28] <SQL_Sam> yes thanks the right click had refresh - thanks
[03:29] <othernoob> no prob
[03:29] <concept10> bob2: okay, thanks.
[03:29] <apokryphos> SQL_Sam: right-click -> refresh desktop
[03:29] <concept10> I want to learn how about AJAX, I need a good IDE for that (maybe?)
[03:29] <darkheart> http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001054719
[03:30] <SQL_Sam> has anyone used limewire?
[03:30] <darkheart> Sorry, wrong channel.
[03:30] <othernoob> isn't limewire obsolote regarding p2p..
[03:30] <apokryphos> SQL_Sam: several. A slightly more lightweight Gnutella p2p app is gtk-gnutella
[03:30] <apokryphos> othernoob: not at all
[03:30] <bimberi> concept10: some more eclipse info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE
[03:30] <SQL_Sam> I'm not sure what is good regarding p2p... that's why I asked
[03:30] <lihaile> hello
[03:30] <hknezer> bob2: so what am i missing here, or do you not know? if not, it's cool i'll keep poking around
[03:31] <lihaile> i have a problem
[03:31] <bob2> concept10: that's pretty un-IDE-specific
[03:31] <bob2> concept10: it's way more to do with what toolkit you're using
[03:31] <apokryphos> SQL_Sam: anything on the Gnutella network is good. Limewire is a Java app though that can be CPU Intensive. Still, it's more aesthetically pleasing than gtk-gnutella.
[03:31] <othernoob> apokryphos: i've disliked limewire even when it came out ;)
[03:31] <apokryphos> SQL_Sam: it's worth trying out both.
[03:31] <bob2> hknezer: I don't know what bit is confusing you
[03:31] <bob2> hknezer: select the free space, make the 60gb partition, put it at the end
[03:31] <ProdegyX> Can someone please explain to me how to install Tar.gz files
[03:31] <concept10> bob2: yeah, I understand that.
[03:31] <SQL_Sam> gtk-gnutella?  are there directions on how to install on the net?
[03:31] <hknezer> bob2: i did
[03:31] <ProdegyX> so I can run Linux 2.06
[03:31] <bob2> ProdegyX: what are you trying to install?
[03:31] <hknezer> bob2: but now i want to give the rest back to windows
[03:31] <reiki> am I strange cause I kinda like the default Ubuntu theme? :)
[03:31] <cafuego_> Linux 2.06?
[03:31] <ProdegyX> Firefox Web Browser
[03:31] <bob2> ProdegyX: theres no such thing as "Linux 2.06"
[03:32] <ProdegyX> off there Site
[03:32] <bob2> ProdegyX: you already have firefox installed
[03:32] <ProdegyX> 1.0.6 Sorry
[03:32] <cafuego_> ProdegyX: Firefox, you mean?
[03:32] <ProdegyX> Yes
[03:32] <bob2> hknezer: select the windows partition and see if there is a resize option
[03:32] <apokryphos> SQL_Sam: it's in the repositories. You can use synaptic.
[03:32] <SQL_Sam> sweet!
[03:32] <concept10> bimberi: thanks.
[03:32] <othernoob> apokryphos: which p2p prog would you recommend?
[03:32] <SQL_Sam> apt-get gtk-gnutella?
[03:32] <cafuego_> ProdegyX: Why reason the security updates are not sufficient?
[03:32] <apokryphos> othernoob: sure, but it's by no means obsolete. It's easily the most popular p2p client on the gnutella network
[03:32] <bimberi> concept10: yw :)
[03:32] <cafuego_> s/Why/Any/
[03:32] <AdmiralSenn> mild update for anyone who cares - ut2k4 suddenly started working as if it was powered by Jesus on speed
[03:32] <ProdegyX> I know I have firefox installed, But it says I need to upgrade to change themes and such
[03:32] <AdmiralSenn> thank you for your time
[03:33] <apokryphos> othernoob: for music -> limewire or gtk-gnutella, but they're both *far* from ideal (for me). For torrents, I use KTorrent these days.
[03:33] <othernoob> apokryphos: mmh, the gnutella network isn't that great imho..
[03:33] <bob2> ProdegyX: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto, just update it
[03:33] <apokryphos> it's pretty huge, and mp3-wise it's quite excellent.
[03:33] <bimberi> SQL_Sam: sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella (once the universe repository is enabled)
[03:33] <cafuego_> !dict scepticism
[03:33] <SQL_Sam> thanks
[03:33] <othernoob> apokryphos: mmh, i would have guessed you'd say IRC ;)
[03:33] <ubotu> Dictionary 'scepticism' the disbelief in any claims of ultimate knowledge
[03:33] <ProdegyX> http:// wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:33] <hknezer> bob2: also how much swap space do you recommend
[03:34] <feae> 2x ram?
[03:34] <SQL_Sam> dont mean to be dumb, but what is meant by torrent?
[03:34] <apokryphos> othernoob: I tend to use torrents more these days, but IRC too sometimes. IRC often has queues -> annoying.
[03:34] <Juul> i'm have a dell laptop with a touchpad and a "track stick". for some reason the sensitivity on the track stick doesn't adjust when i change it in mouse preferences. any ideas?
[03:34] <othernoob> SQL_Sam: bittorrent...
[03:34] <cafuego_> feae: No. That rule only applies to old 2.4 kernels (and even older ones)
[03:34] <hknezer> SQL_Sam: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitTorrent
[03:34] <apokryphos> SQL_Sam: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[03:34] <cafuego_> feae: How much ram you got?
[03:34] <feae> 512
[03:34] <ProdegyX> Thats not working the lin
[03:34] <othernoob> apokryphos: true, the queues are annoying, but the goods are faster on irc than on torrent ;)
[03:35] <cafuego_> feae: then 256-512Mb swap should see you sorted.
[03:35] <apokryphos> othernoob: often, but not always.
[03:35] <feae> i got 1.6g swap
[03:35] <cafuego_> feae: well, that won't hurt either :-)
[03:35] <feae> lol
[03:35] <bob2> hknezer: how much ram do you have?
[03:35] <feae> r u talking 2 me privately
[03:35] <SQL_Sam> wht is the definiton of a torent?
[03:35] <othernoob> apokryphos: i didn't mean download speed. :)
[03:35] <bob2> ProdegyX: it will work if yo utype it in correctly
[03:35] <apokryphos> SQL_Sam: check those links.
[03:35] <lihaile> my ubuntu can't update now
[03:35] <guest_> hi
[03:36] <guest_> kinsa ka
[03:36] <SQL_Sam> k
[03:36] <feae> can sum1 help with my mass storage device?
[03:36] <apokryphos> othernoob: you mean they come out faster on IRC?
[03:36] <hknezer> bob2: 512
[03:36] <bob2> feae: please try to use english
[03:36] <guest_> hi
[03:36] <bob2> hknezer: 1GB is plenty
[03:36] <othernoob> SQL_Sam: you sure you really want to use a p2p program? you don't seem to know much
[03:36] <othernoob> apokryphos: yea
[03:36] <apokryphos> othernoob: I was just about to say the opposite :P
[03:36] <guest_> dlfjkgkhj
[03:36] <guest_> fdk
[03:36] <guest_> ,kdfhvk
[03:36] <guest_> dkfmnhg
[03:36] <guest_> sdurt
[03:36] <guest_> difhg
[03:36] <guest_> dufiosv
[03:36] <guest_> dfiuvn
[03:36] <apokryphos> guerby: please do not flood
[03:36] <feae> ?
[03:36] <othernoob> apokryphos: depends on the irc channel/server ;)
[03:36] <lihaile> is any chinese here
[03:36] <darkheart> lol
[03:36] <darkheart> I'm glad I was here to see that.
[03:36] <apokryphos> othernoob: of course
[03:36] <darkheart> !ch
[03:36] <ubotu> darkheart: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:37] <Joxer> anyone know how i can get "the username" to show in the motd ? like "Hello "yourusername" ?
[03:37] <lihaile> who from china
[03:37] <feae> me
[03:37] <lihaile> yes
[03:37] <juan_> alguien en castellan+
[03:37] <cafuego_> darkheart: switzerland
[03:37] <othernoob> apokryphos: but i tend to use torrent more often than irc as well.
[03:37] <cafuego_> !es
[03:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:37] <bob2> english, Folks
[03:37] <lihaile> can u know chinese
[03:37] <juan_> ok
[03:37] <apokryphos> othernoob: azureus?
[03:37] <feae> no
[03:37] <juan_> thank
[03:37] <othernoob> apokryphos: yea
[03:37] <feae> not really
[03:37] <lihaile> oh
[03:38] <apokryphos> othernoob: brings my comp to its knees with 4/5+ torrents 8_
[03:38] <othernoob> apokryphos: never felt comfortable with other torrent clients.
[03:38] <SQL_Sam> i gotta make an id10t file.....
[03:38] <sportman|food> to add
[03:38] <othernoob> apokryphos: really?
[03:38] <cafuego_> sportman|food: Not for Ubuntu, no.
[03:38] <apokryphos> othernoob: it's easily the most featureful
[03:38] <bob2> sportman: to install what?
[03:38] <apokryphos> othernoob: yes; well, with a few seeding as well.
[03:38] <cafuego_> sportman: if you wanted one for Debian, try #debian
[03:38] <sportman> mplayer
[03:38] <sportman> well
[03:38] <bob2> sportman: mplayer is in ubuntu
[03:38] <sportman> tis?
[03:39] <bob2> sportman: please read the FAQ
[03:39] <cafuego_> mplayer is packaged in 'multiverse' afaik.
[03:39] <othernoob> apokryphos: i tend to have it running several days before i reboot to play some windows games and no problems..
[03:39] <darkheart> cafuego_ Switzerland?
[03:39] <sportman> ahh, but i cant ever get it in synaptic?
[03:39] <cafuego_> darkheart: .ch is switzerland, yes.
[03:39] <bimberi> ubotu tell sportman about mplayer
[03:39] <bob2> sportman: then you've misconfigured apt
[03:39] <apokryphos> othernoob: It's not a bad app, I do like it, and it has many htings over ktorrent; ktorrent is embryonic, considering its age. :)
[03:39] <sportman> ..?
[03:39] <sportman> how it works i ran a full system update
[03:40] <sportman> from it
[03:40] <darkheart> cafuego_ No kidding...what's china then?
[03:40] <bob2> sportman: yadaydayada, wiki.ubuntu.com/Repositories
[03:40] <sportman> ohh maybee the repositiories are just turned off
[03:40] <sportman> lol
[03:40] <bob2> cafuego_: cn
[03:40] <bob2> bah
[03:40] <cafuego_> darkheart: depends on which bit you mean. Normally .cn, but these days .hk as well.
[03:41] <cafuego_> darkheart: If you're wodnering why .ch, the local name is "SomethingwithC Helvetica"
[03:41] <othernoob> apokryphos: i may take a look at ktorrent.
[03:42] <apokryphos> othernoob: it's worth a try out; there's an Ubuntu repo with it, not sure what version it has though.
[03:42] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell othernoob about ktorrent
[03:42] <sportman> ubotu: tell sportman about cedega
[03:43] <steven_Laptop> ? how do I stop Time synchronizing with server at boot up.....
[03:43] <darkheart> cafuego_ Sorry, I didn't understand the Helvetica comment.
[03:43] <bob2> steven_Laptop: sudo rm /etc/rcS.d/S*ntp*
[03:43] <cafuego_> darkheart: the local swiss name for switzserland is "Something Helvetica" - where something starts with C.
[03:43] <Gwtekman> My kernal just upgraded and now only screen resolution is 640x480, how do I get my other choices to show up in the preference menu?
[03:43] <drfunk> anyone know a good site about ndiswrapper - I have searched google/linux and im still lost as to why it installs fine with ubuntu and the drivers go in fine but it still doesnt light up or work on my pavilion ZD7000
[03:43] <sportman> ubot: tell sportman about gnome
[03:43] <cafuego_> darkheart: hence .ch
[03:44] <steven_Laptop> bob2, then it only use system time correct?
[03:44] <othernoob> apokryphos: thanks. i'll install it tomorrow and test it with some small torrents
[03:44] <darkheart> cafuego_ Ahhhh gotcha =) Makes sense in a way hehe.
[03:44] <cafuego_> Confederatio Helvetica
[03:44] <othernoob> apokryphos: have you had ktorrent and azureus running at the same time?
[03:44] <nalioth> sportman: read what ubotu told you about himself
[03:44] <steven_Laptop> thanks
[03:44] <sportman> i did
[03:44] <sportman> lol
[03:44] <sportman> sorry
[03:45] <apokryphos> othernoob: a couple of times, yeah. As of late only had KTorrent really, though.
[03:45] <sportman> lol didnt work
[03:45] <othernoob> apokryphos: any performance problems when both were running?
[03:46] <xubio> I've installed Breezy into unused space on my WindozeXP drive.  Tried to add windows partition to /etc/lilo.conf, but when I run liloconfig, I get this error: device-mapper ioctl cmd 12 failed: No such device or address. Any lilo experts around?
[03:46] <othernoob> apokryphos: i remember having enormous problems when ed2k and any bittorrent program were running at the same time
[03:46] <cafuego_> xubio: 'sudo rm /dev/dm'; then run 'sudo lilo -v' again
[03:47] <apokryphos> othernoob: it would just be the sum of the intensitivity of each; wouldn't make a particular difference that those two are running together. They don't use the same backend or anything
[03:47] <transgress> okay i'm trying to build the ndiswrapper source package, but it is trying to use gcc-3.4 ... is there a way to fix this?
[03:47] <apokryphos> othernoob: kt is lightweight though. Chances are it will be integrated into kget (systray kde download manager), so you can just drag/paste urls into it
[03:47] <Gwtekman> I only get choice of 640x480 screenres....how do I get my other choices back?
[03:47] <xubio> cafuego_: cool!  For my edification, where are these extra devices coming from?
[03:48] <cafuego_> !fixres
[03:48] <ubotu> well, fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:48] <Gwtekman> thanks
[03:48] <cafuego_> xubio: Probably some misconfiguration of 'udev'. Annoying, but that cmd fixes it. I assume it'll get fixed for the final release.
[03:48] <othernoob> apokryphos: sounds good. :)
[03:49] <xubio> thanks
[03:49] <bob2> steven_Laptop: indeed
[03:49] <cafuego_> xubio: Note, it'll be back after a reboot, so next time you update lilo you'll need to delete /dev/dm again.
[03:50] <sproingie> that X11 font bug in breezy upgrade is lethal.  couldn't even get a fallback console for some reason
[03:50] <Earthen> anyone know how to sync palm with jpilot
[03:50] <othernoob> night..
[03:51] <mik3> if i wanted to set my linksys router up so when someone ssh'd my ip it would direct to this box?
[03:51] <sportman> how do i set this up
[03:51] <sportman> lol
[03:51] <sportman> forget it
[03:51] <sportman> how do i query uboto
[03:51] <Earthen> mik3, in your linksys forward the port 22 to your computer IP
[03:52] <sportman> without cluttering the channel
[03:52] <sproingie> sportman: just chat with it normally.  /query ubotu in just most irc clients will do it
[03:52] <xubio> cafuego:  Matters less now that lilo works, but I also tried grub (which I'd prefer, but...)  With that I got further, but got this error: The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.  Any ideas?
[03:52] <bimberi> sportman: /query ubotu then type the factoid names (eg. "gnome")
[03:52] <nalioth> sportman: /msg ubotu <factoid> or <help>
[03:52] <sproingie> don't prefix with a ! when you're querying it
[03:52] <drfunk> anyone know a good site to figure out why ndiswrapper wont work with my broadcom wireless?  or maybe another program all together or setup or something im going insane here.,,
[03:52] <mik3> it's asking for a port range, what do i put? 22 and 22?
[03:52] <sproingie> wow, X in breezy is slow as hell to repaint
[03:53] <Earthen> yes
[03:53] <mik3> udp or tcp?
[03:53] <Earthen> mik3, yes
[03:53] <Earthen> tcp
[03:53] <mik3> k
[03:53] <mik3> and what about ftp
[03:53] <nalioth> sproingie: x is in active developement, i think (i get x updates each time i update)
[03:53] <Earthen> mik3, are you using a ftp server on your box
[03:53] <sportman> nalioth
[03:53] <sportman> that didnt work
[03:53] <sportman> lol
[03:54] <mik3> Earthen : i have one set up yes
[03:54] <sproingie> nalioth: i surmise I'm using a debugging build then?
[03:54] <nalioth> sportman: when ubotu msgs you, just use that window
[03:54] <Earthen> mik3, you can ftp using ssh it is alot safer
[03:54] <mik3> sftp?
[03:54] <nalioth> sproingie: breezy is in debugging stage, yes
[03:54] <nalioth> mik3: sftp runs thru ssh ports
[03:54] <mik3> k
[03:55] <mik3> tcp or udp
[03:55] <windex> you can also use scp
[03:55] <Earthen> mik3,  if you have ssh working then it is working for ssh also
[03:55] <nalioth> mik3: yes
[03:55] <sproingie> nalioth: ok.  just curious whether it was just me or not
[03:55] <mik3> which one
[03:55] <mik3> both?
[03:55] <windex> tcp
[03:55] <bimberi> mik3: tcp
[03:55] <windex> ssh is a tcp daemon
[03:55] <Earthen> mik3,  ftp is work on ssh as well
[03:55] <mik3> k
[03:55] <TokenBad> in ubuntu using the proftpd how do I allow fxp transfers?
[03:55] <rigel> ftp? on ssh?
[03:55] <rigel> what?
[03:55] <windex> mik3, filezilla for windows supports sftp, too
[03:56] <lihaile>  #linuxfans
[03:56] <glick> hey how much do you estimate a premium google ad costs?
[03:56] <apokryphos> rigel: man ftp
[03:56] <sproingie> oh my, it's initializing composite on a machine with an ATI driver, that's probably why
[03:56] <windex> glenn, $$.
[03:56] <mik3> or you could download sftp
[03:56] <windex> err, glick.
[03:56] <transgress> and does anyone have a clue as to why a package is trying to build with gcc-3.4?  i can't find it anywhere in the makefiles, etc... it doesn't have a configure file...
[03:56] <glick> windex, yeah i know it costs money
[03:56] <glick> i was wondering for an idea
[03:56] <nalioth> mik3: download sftp for what? it's build into linux boxes with ssh
[03:56] <glick> a rough estimate
[03:56] <rigel> why would you use ftp over ssh when scp is built into the protocol
[03:56] <rigel> innit?
[03:57] <rigel> or the daemon
[03:57] <rigel> or the whozawhatsis
[03:57] <nalioth> rigel: sftp or scp is up to the users preferences
[03:57] <Earthen> rigel, I don;t think he knew about it
[03:57] <klui> hello
[03:57] <klui> all
[03:58] <klui> anyone uses have knights installed?
[03:58] <ghostdog> how do i mount windows?
[03:58] <apokryphos> !windowsdrives
[03:58] <lourie> hi
[03:58] <ubotu> rumour has it, windowsdrives is Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[03:58] <nalioth> !tell ghostdog about ntfs
[03:59] <ghostdog> tnx naloith
[03:59] <war-totem> anyone know the mutt command to fetchmail?
[04:00] <Earthen> can someone tell me how to configure Jpilot to sync with my palm
[04:00] <bz0b> how do I burn an iso with cdrecord?
[04:00] <bz0b> i think i got it
[04:01] <bz0b> is it nope
[04:01] <nalioth> bz0b: easiest way is to use the cdrecord fronted called k3b
[04:02] <bz0b> nalioth, does cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc file.iso work?
[04:02] <nalioth> bz0b: i've never used cdrecord directly
[04:02] <bz0b> i see
[04:02] <AdmiralSenn> back again
[04:02] <nalioth> bz0b: "man cdrecord" will tell you
[04:02] <bz0b> yeah, well do you use gnome or kde?
[04:02] <rendi> guy's can help me i'm format my windows and i lost my grub now i can't back to my box
[04:03] <AdmiralSenn> quick question - how would I make a shortcut that has root priveleges?
[04:03] <nalioth> bz0b: gnome usually
[04:03] <AdmiralSenn> trying to do ut2k4 and it does weird things without using sudo
[04:03] <bz0b> rendi, where are you from, because your english is sort of bad
[04:03] <bz0b> rendi, no offense
[04:03] <rendi> i'm indonesia
[04:03] <rendi> sorry my english
[04:03] <bz0b> no problem
[04:03] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell rendi about grub
[04:03] <nalioth> rendi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:03] <rendi> i ca'nt speak english very well
[04:03] <rendi> ok wait i'll look it
[04:03] <bz0b> its okay
[04:04] <apokryphos> rendi: easily well enough for us to understand, don't worry :)
[04:04] <AdmiralSenn> anyone?
[04:04] <TokenBad> in ubuntu using the proftpd how do I allow fxp transfers?
[04:05] <bz0b> brb guys
[04:06] <sproingie> AdmiralSenn: change the target of the link from <whatever> to gksu <whatever>
[04:06] <Agrajag> gksudo
[04:06] <apokryphos> sproingie: gksudo
[04:06] <sproingie> oops.  indeed
[04:06] <klui> rendi: where're you from?
[04:06] <war-totem> anyone here use Eterm?
[04:06] <AdmiralSenn> hmm... no change
[04:07] <AdmiralSenn> asks for password, then nothing happens
[04:07] <TokenBad> is there a script for xchat that will tell what your current bandwidth speed is?
[04:07] <TokenBad> or a way to tell?
[04:07] <AdmiralSenn> bah
[04:08] <factotum> what should I check when video and sound dont synch, like the sound lags behind?
[04:08] <klui> what is cvs?
[04:08] <glick> will it be easy to upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[04:08] <factotum> its always been an issue since install, but im getting kind of sick of it
[04:08] <IcemanV9> will gnome 2.10 upgrade to 2.12 on hoary eventually???
[04:08] <bimberi> ubotu tell klui about cvs
[04:08] <bob2> IcemanV9: no
[04:08] <bob2> of course not
[04:08] <sproingie> glick: extremely.  you just change a few lines in sources.list.  i don't recommend it unless you know how to recover from disastrous config errors tho
[04:09] <klui> ye tell me
[04:09] <Agrajag> no, packages do not change like that in a stable release
[04:09] <sproingie> glick: that is, not until breezy goes live
[04:09] <IcemanV9> bob2: why not??
[04:09] <bob2> glick: yes
[04:09] <glick> cool
[04:09] <bob2> IcemanV9: because!!1111
[04:09] <AdmiralSenn> guys gksudo isn't all I need
[04:09] <klui> please
[04:09] <bob2> IcemanV9: hoary is a stable release. stable = doesn't change
[04:09] <Ashen> yo
[04:09] <dabar> Good $timeOfDayWhereYouAre
[04:09] <Ashen> I need some help getting the freaking breezy install iso to work
[04:10] <Ashen> it hates me.
[04:10] <Ashen> :p
[04:10] <AdmiralSenn> oops
[04:10] <sproingie> dabar: good localtime()
[04:10] <AdmiralSenn> so
[04:10] <Ashen> It's trying to download the base system for some reason?
[04:10] <Ashen> and then dies when it cant find half of the files it need
[04:10] <Ashen> s
[04:11] <Ashen> why would it be trying to download the base system? -_-'
[04:11] <giard> what's the easiest way to find the package I need to install if I know the file I'm looking for?
[04:11] <venzen> that's normal
[04:11] <factotum> would it just be a totem issue or a x issue or the nvidia drivers? just dont know what to do about it
[04:11] <bob2> giard: packages.ubuntu.com
[04:12] <AdmiralSenn> trying to make a shortcut to ut2k4 on my gnome bar and that requires the use of sudo or an equivalent.. and it's not working
[04:12] <dabar> giard: three ways. aptitude, apt-get or synaptic, or even that what bob2 said.
[04:12] <venzen> factotum: it's strange - try googling & search ubuntuforums.org
[04:12] <IcemanV9> bob2: alright, whatever. i still think it should be merged into hoary repos when it is stable. :P
[04:12] <factotum> mmmph, yeah i have off and on for the last few days, only thing close I found was dma for a dvd drive, thats already enabled
[04:12] <venzen> Admiral: what's ut2k4 do?
[04:12] <AdmiralSenn> venzen: it's a game
[04:13] <bob2> IcemanV9: that would be silly and pointless work
[04:13] <giard> bob2: how do I use that?  I'm looking for the package that has the file... "scrnsaver.h"
[04:13] <bob2> IcemanV9: that effort would be wasted, when it could go into just making breezy better
[04:13] <AdmiralSenn> maybe I can chmod it to be usable by anyone
[04:13] <bob2> giard: why are you looking for that?
[04:13] <venzen> Admiral: so what happens when you type ut2k4 in a terminal?
[04:13] <giard> bob2: new beagle
[04:13] <AdmiralSenn> venzen: nothing... because it's not a command
[04:13] <giard> bob2: nevermind, I see it now... below the fold
[04:14] <venzen> Admiral: what command starts it?
[04:14] <bob2> giard: sudo apt-get build-dep beagle
[04:14] <AdmiralSenn> I have to run sudo /usr/local/games/ut2004/System/ut2004-bin
[04:14] <bob2> all done
[04:14] <venzen> Admiral: hold on...
[04:14] <AdmiralSenn> er
[04:14] <AdmiralSenn> wait that doesn't work
[04:15] <AdmiralSenn> I have to be in the System directory and do sudo ./ut2004-bin
[04:15] <giard> bob2: cool command, but didn't pull in everything I need for new version
[04:16] <venzen> Admiral: ok - create a new launcher on desktop and use command: 'gksudo /usr/local/games/ut2004/System/ut2004-bin' then tick the box to run it in a terminal
[04:16] <AdmiralSenn> venzen: I did that already
[04:16] <AdmiralSenn> it doesn't work
[04:16] <venzen> what happens?
[04:17] <venzen> nothing eh?
[04:17] <AdmiralSenn> asks for a pass
[04:17] <AdmiralSenn> then nothing
[04:17] <venzen> give it?
[04:17] <venzen> ok
[04:17] <AdmiralSenn> ah
[04:17] <AdmiralSenn> child terminated with 127 status
[04:17] <AdmiralSenn> didn't see that before
[04:17] <TokenBad> is there a script for xchat that will tell what your current bandwidth speed is?
[04:17] <TokenBad> or a way to tell?
[04:17] <dabar> bob2: now that you are here. Do you put . in your path, and if not, point me to good reasons(URL) or tell me about it, please.
[04:18] <bob2> no, because it means if I run "ls" in /tmp I could be running some random trojan
[04:18] <bob2> which is not going to happen on my laptop, but it's a terrible habit to get into
[04:18] <venzen> Admiral: that's strange.. google & search ubuntuforums.org?
[04:19] <AdmiralSenn> bah
[04:19] <AdmiralSenn> I'll just run it in a terminal from memory
[04:20] <venzen> Admiral: yeh, but is it normal to have to run it via sudo?
[04:20] <AdmiralSenn> the price I pay for better gameplay performance - no shortcuts
[04:20] <AdmiralSenn> venzen: I have no idea
[04:20] <dabar> ls runs files? oh, you mean, its gonna look there before elsewhere? why not put it in the end of path?
[04:20] <IcemanV9> AdmiralSenn: create a script to run UT2k4
[04:20] <Ashen> damnit
[04:20] <venzen> Admiral - hold on..
[04:20] <AdmiralSenn> IcemanV9: uhhh and I'm supposed to do this how? I'm not even a n00b programmer
[04:20] <Ashen> its my freaking image...
[04:20] <bob2> dabar: because I still don't like nasty surprises
[04:20] <Kyral> UT2k4 wha?
[04:20] <Kyral> just install it to your homedir
[04:20] <dabar> bob2: thanks.
[04:20] <AdmiralSenn> ...
[04:21] <venzen> Admiral: replace gksudo with sudo - gksudo is a command to create a terminal with root privileges
[04:21] <IcemanV9> AdmiralSenn: ah. well.
[04:21] <hknezer> bob2: done installing (took a dinner break)...thanks for your help!
[04:21] <bluefoxicy> Heeeelp me :(
[04:22] <bluefoxicy> I don't know what to tell google to find
[04:22] <venzen> what's wrong?
[04:22] <lourie> hi everyone
[04:22] <nalioth> bluefoxicy: quit whining
[04:22] <AdmiralSenn> venzen: nothing happens
[04:22] <bluefoxicy> I need to know when the first athlon 64 CPU was available for under $200
[04:22] <bob2> bluefoxicy: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:23] <Ashen> is there a nice way I can repair my downloaded breezy image without having to re-download the whole thing?
[04:23] <bob2> rsync
[04:23] <venzen> Admiral: even with run in terminal ticked?
[04:24] <AdmiralSenn> yes
[04:24] <venzen> sh*t
[04:24] <alumno> hello !!
[04:24] <venzen> hi
[04:24] <AdmiralSenn> what's weird is I can't run it from any dir but that one
[04:24] <nalioth> Ashen: use the torrent
[04:25] <AdmiralSenn> like I can't type the command in at my home directory
[04:25] <nalioth> Ashen: it will correct any imperfections
[04:25] <vader1102> has anyone got rekall installed?
[04:25] <alumno> i'm conecting from chile
[04:25] <venzen> Admiral: ok.. what permissions
[04:25] <venzen> on that dir
[04:25] <alumno> any one speak spanish here ?
[04:25] <AdmiralSenn> it's 775, whatever that means
[04:26] <venzen> Admiral: and what ownership
[04:26] <AdmiralSenn> drwxr-xr-x
[04:26] <AdmiralSenn> owned by root, naturally
[04:26] <alumno> some girl
[04:26] <bimberi> hi alumno, try #ubuntu-es
[04:26] <venzen> Admiral chmod that directory to 777
[04:27] <AdmiralSenn> k
[04:27] <venzen> alumno: si, un pocito - por que?
[04:27] <alumno> Thanks bimberi
[04:27] <bimberi> alumno: yw
[04:27] <AdmiralSenn> and... nothing happens!
[04:28] <Ashen> ah
[04:28] <Ashen> thx all :)
[04:28] <Ashen> all better
[04:28] <Ashen> ^_^
[04:28] <venzen> Admiral: damn... I've run out of ideas - post this in the forums and see what replies u get
[04:28] <alumno> i'm on the class room right now while the teacher is speaking about query's, alias, etc
[04:28] <AdmiralSenn> well
[04:28] <AdmiralSenn> I just chown'd it to my own account
[04:28] <AdmiralSenn> still nothing!
[04:29] <AdmiralSenn> ftw
[04:29] <venzen> Admiral: run it from terminal each time or create a script
[04:30] <AdmiralSenn> but I don't know how to make a script to do this
[04:30] <isym> how do i change my $path of a library
[04:30] <AdmiralSenn> actually
[04:30] <AdmiralSenn> I don't know how to make any scripts
[04:30] <AdmiralSenn> grrr
[04:30] <isym> www.suck-o.com
[04:30] <isym> they have tuturoials on scripting
[04:30] <isym> :)
[04:31] <nybble> ahoy
[04:31] <isym> how do i change my $path of a library
[04:31] <venzen> Admiral: its not difficult, but difficult to explain here
[04:31] <vader1102> does anyone know of a good data base program for keeping track of customers and work that I have done?
[04:31] <isym> excel?
[04:31] <venzen> what?
[04:32] <isym> spreadsheets?
[04:32] <isym> how do i change my $path of a library
[04:32] <dabar> isym: $path of a library is quite vague, give more detail.
[04:32] <venzen> vader: try OpenOffice beta2 - it includes a databasing program
[04:32] <dabar> stop repeating, as well.
[04:32] <dabar> please. off course.
[04:32] <vader1102> I only have a p2 366 laptop to run it on
[04:33] <war-totem> when i type fetchmail i get this: fetchmail: background fetchmail at 7991 awakened.
[04:33] <war-totem> anyone got a clue?
[04:33] <isym> ij
[04:33] <isym> ok
[04:33] <vader1102> or I would use Open Office 2.0\
[04:33] <isym> i try to run a program and it tells me cant find this lib
[04:33] <isym> so i wanna chec kthe path to see if its right
[04:33] <nybble> vader1102: OO2 doesnt seem to require as much, atleast with my tests
[04:34] <nybble> vader1102: i run it on a P2 350
[04:34] <dabar> isym: and you know the location of the lib?
[04:34] <nybble> vader1102: how much ram does the system have?
[04:34] <vader1102> 256
[04:34] <isym> twa
[04:34] <isym> yeah
[04:34] <IcemanV9> vader1102: you can use OOo2 Calc (spreadsheet); i use it a lot for my budget, job search and whatsnot :)
[04:34] <venzen> vader: ok - google for PHP script to track customers/hours AND that uses sqlite - should work on yr hardware
[04:34] <isym> the programs lib is in the saemk directory as the program
[04:34] <isym> hehehe
[04:34] <nybble> vader1102: yea, it would run it nicely.
[04:35] <vader1102> nybble, is it possible to upgrade to 2.0?
[04:35] <nybble> yep
[04:35] <nybble> ok,
[04:35] <vader1102> nybble, how?
[04:35] <bob2> isym: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/lib application
[04:35] <nybble> !rep
[04:35] <ubotu> nybble: I give up, what is it?
[04:35] <bob2> isym: but that hints at a deeper problem
[04:35] <nybble> hmm... ok
[04:35] <isym> what you mean??
[04:35] <venzen> war-totem: background fetchmail reawakened - because it is already running - try 'ps aux| grep fetchmail'
[04:36] <nybble> vader1102: you need to make sure you have the other repositories
[04:36] <vader1102> I have
[04:36] <nybble> vader1102: then run sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org
[04:36] <bob2> isym: what application is
[04:36] <vader1102> ok
[04:36] <bob2> ?
[04:36] <nybble> vader1102: and then run sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2
[04:36] <venzen> exactly
[04:36] <war-totem> venzen, ok
[04:36] <nybble> vader1102: hold on, i'll get the right line ofr the second
[04:36] <kjs3> So...I'm trying to load Ubuntu on a dual p3, 1.5G ram, lsi logic 1010 controller.  I get "[91.057796]  Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found.  Try passing init= option to kernel." before it hangs.  Anyone seen something like this?  Google does not illuminate that I can see.
[04:36] <isym> a gaming one
[04:36] <isym> Quakeworld
[04:37] <isym> it has a linux installing part of it but i cant seem 2 run it
[04:37] <bob2> isym: then you installed it incorrectly
[04:37] <war-totem> venzen, what am i looking at now?
[04:37] <isym> how would i install it CORRECTLY?
[04:37] <bob2> isym: paste the full error to #flood
[04:37] <isym> its just an unzippable tar.
[04:37] <bob2> kjs3: sure the cd is ok?
[04:37] <isym> give me a second
[04:37] <venzen> war: you're looking at all the processes running on yr system
[04:37] <venzen> type ps aux
[04:38] <kjs3> bob2: 4 writes from 3 downloads from 2 different mirrors.  Nope...dunno if the cd is okay for sure...:-)
[04:38] <nybble> vader1102: ok the second line is: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2 openoffice.org2-calc
[04:38] <venzen> war: you should see fetchmail in that list of processes
[04:38] <war-totem> venzen, ah, ok but fetchmail is supposed to tell me if theirs any mail on the server for me right?
[04:38] <bob2> kjs3: did you check the cd itself? ie the md5sum of the data itself?
[04:38] <kjs3> bob2: and I've tried 2 ide cds and one scsi.
[04:39] <war-totem> venzen, i do see it
[04:39] <venzen> war: yes, but it doesn't tell you unless you use the option -v (verbose)
[04:39] <DaMi3n> is there a way to have changing backgrounds in ubuntu-gnome
[04:39] <war-totem> venzen, fetchmail -t 30
[04:39] <war-totem> ah
[04:39] <Versed> right mouse click?
[04:39] <bob2> kjs3: but did you chec kthe cd? boot expert and select the "verify cd" or whatever option.
[04:39] <isym> i pasted the error
[04:39] <bob2> isym: so, that error is pretty self-explantory
[04:40] <bob2> isym: go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for that filename
[04:40] <bob2> isym: then install the package it's in
[04:40] <war-totem> venzen, does this mean that ive configured something wrong?
[04:40] <venzen> war: you first have to kill the old fetchmail...
[04:40] <venzen> war: no you're fine
[04:40] <kjs3> bob2: Didn't md5 it, no.  If I can't download a good one, it's unique to Ubuntu.  I tried to boot expert with the same hang.
[04:40] <AdmiralSenn> whoa ho
[04:40] <AdmiralSenn> found a script that's supposed to do the same thing
[04:40] <TokenBad> how can tell what bandwidth is?
[04:40] <DaMi3n> is there a way to have changing backgrounds in ubuntu-gnome
[04:40] <bob2> kjs3: I'm not talking about the iso, I'm talking about the cd you burnt
[04:41] <war-totem> venzen, ive killed it
[04:41] <venzen> type kill 123 - or whatever process number it has (1st column
[04:41] <venzen> )
[04:41] <isym> ok
[04:41] <venzen> good
[04:41] <evanpro> DaMi3n, you mean, continuously changing?
[04:41] <isym> sorry man new to linux :D
[04:41] <venzen> war: fetchmail -t -v
[04:42] <evanpro> DaMi3n, if you just want to change the background by hand, right click anywhere there's not a window, and you get the "Change Desktop Background" menu item
[04:42] <kjs3> bob2: err...no.  I didn't md5 any of the multiple disks I burned.
[04:42] <war-totem> venzen, -v is not an option
[04:42] <kjs3> bob2: from multiple images.
[04:42] <DaMi3n> evanpro, i meant cont changin
[04:42] <venzen> war: hold on...
[04:42] <vader1102> synaptic is doing it
[04:42] <war-totem> venzen,  ok
[04:43] <LinuxNewbie> hello there is there a way to block a range of ip  in a lan in accessing the internet but they are still connected in the lan?
[04:43] <bob2> kjs3: that is the first step
[04:43] <LinuxNewbie> hello there is there a way to block a range of ip  in a lan in accessing the internet but they are still connected in the lan?v
[04:43] <bob2> LinuxNewbie: please don't repeat
[04:43] <DaMi3n> evanpro, something that reads jpegs frm specified directory and randomly picks one as background after a fixed tim interval
[04:43] <bob2> LinuxNewbie: that's entirely an issue for your router; is it running ubuntu?
[04:43] <venzen> war: -v is definitely an option - see 'fetchmail --help'
[04:43] <LinuxNewbie> ok sorry about that?
[04:43] <venzen> war: maybe try --verbose
[04:43] <LinuxNewbie> yes kinda
[04:44] <LinuxNewbie> its on a cable modem
[04:44] <evanpro> DaMi3n, http://sourceforge.net/projects/gdchange/
[04:44] <bob2> LinuxNewbie: then talk to whoever made your cable modem
[04:44] <TokenBad> how can tell what bandwidth is?
[04:44] <evanpro> First thing I could find
[04:44] <kjs3> bob2: right....so the Debian install I did a few days ago from the same setup from the first download doesn't indicate something else wrong.  I'll jump right on that md5.
[04:44] <bob2> TokenBad: you need to be a lot more specific
[04:44] <LinuxNewbie> ok thnx
[04:44] <TokenBad> I installed proftpd
[04:44] <bob2> kjs3: it's probably not it, but it is simple to check and causes probably 8/10 install iseeus
[04:44] <TokenBad> I want to be able to see what speed people are sending and getting from me
[04:44] <war-totem> venzen, i know its an option, but when i type that it tells me its not an option and shows me all the options availible
[04:45] <AdmiralSenn> haha!
[04:45] <DaMi3n> evanpro, tx a lot
[04:45] <AdmiralSenn> venzen: I got it
[04:45] <war-totem> venzen, but fetchmail itself seems to be working
[04:45] <evanpro> DaMi3n, I have no idea if it works or not
[04:45] <evanpro> DaMi3n, but good luck
[04:45] <bob2> TokenBad: not generally possible, but perhaps asking some proftpd group would get you an answer
[04:45] <DaMi3n> evanpro, lol ty
[04:45] <venzen> Admiral: deja vu, eh?
[04:45] <AdmiralSenn> there's a script in the installation dir called 'ut2004' and running that makes it work
[04:45] <TokenBad> there was a program someone said in before that could do it
[04:45] <TokenBad> but can't remember it
[04:45] <AdmiralSenn> it searches the system for the path to the game binary
[04:45] <DaMi3n> evanpro, there used to be sth similar in red hat
[04:45] <TokenBad> xchat had a script that does it to I think
[04:46] <venzen> war: kill fetchmail and then type 'fetchmail -t --verbose'
[04:46] <war-totem> venzen, will do
[04:46] <venzen> war: have you edited ~/.fetchmailrc ?
[04:46] <war-totem> venzen, yes
[04:47] <venzen> war: so whats happening now?
[04:47] <war-totem> venzen, same
[04:47] <evanpro> So I need a serious clue
[04:47] <venzen> Admiral: can you create a launcher using this script instead?
[04:47] <war-totem> venzen, but fetchmail by itself seems to do the trick
[04:48] <evanpro> On my AMD64 machine with SATA disk drives, I can't boot with 2.6.12 kernels
[04:48] <venzen> war: so are there messages on the server?
[04:48] <kjs3> MD5 checks.  It's not the image
[04:48] <evanpro> (I guess with the fancy new initramfs stuff)
[04:48] <voidlogic> what chipset?
[04:48] <war-totem> venzen, correct
[04:48] <evanpro> I've got root=/dev/sda1
[04:48] <evanpro> And I get a kernel panic...
[04:48] <voidlogic> what chipset, are you overloaking your RAM?
[04:48] <venzen> war: you should kill fetchmail again, then try 'sudo fetchmail -t -v'
[04:48] <war-totem> venzen,  and i just got a Query status=3 (authfail)
[04:49] <evanpro> voidlogic, k8, not overclocking
[04:49] <venzen> war: fetchmail couldn't authenticate to the pop server...
[04:49] <evanpro> voidlogic, I think it has more to do with the root device than with the chipset
[04:49] <voidlogic> I have an AMD64, it works, i mean chipset, like nvida nforce III or IV?
[04:49] <war-totem> venzen, same thing, just tells me thats not an option then lists them all
[04:49] <evanpro> voidlogic, the panic is that the root filesystem isn't found
[04:49] <mik3> how do i remove a simbolic link i made with ln?
[04:49] <evanpro> And I get a funny error from DM
[04:49] <evanpro> mik3, rm
[04:50] <nalioth> mik3: use "rm"
[04:50] <voidlogic> what SATA controller are you using?
[04:50] <venzen> war: ok, there must have been a version change... what version are you running?
[04:50] <mik3> it won't delete the target?
[04:50] <evanpro> voidlogic, one sec
[04:50] <bimberi> mik3: no
[04:50] <nalioth> mik3: if you aim it correctly, no
[04:50] <war-totem> venzen, fetchmail release 6.2.5
[04:51] <evanpro> voidlogic, VIA VT6420, per HAL device manager
[04:51] <venzen> war: that's weird
[04:51] <voidlogic> ah ok
[04:51] <war-totem> venzen, i agree
[04:51] <Derick> #batangas
[04:51] <war-totem> venzen, but thanks for your help
[04:51] <venzen> sure
[04:52] <evanpro> voidlogic, my 2.6.11 kernel from hoary works fine
[04:52] <venzen> war: do you run fetchmail as a daemon?
[04:52] <sambagirl>      `who is hoary?
[04:52] <voidlogic> evanpro: does your issue resamble this: http://www.ussg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0408.1/2196.html
[04:52] <venzen> hoary hedgehog
[04:52] <DDR> hello people....i'm new here and like i need some help setting up a network for linux to windows
[04:52] <evanpro> sambagirl, a hedgehog
[04:53] <The_Vox> ok, I'm about ready to kill my ubuntu box....what does one do when during boot you get dumped into the "diagnosis mode" after a failed fsck?
[04:53] <evanpro> DDR, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba
[04:53] <voidlogic> The_Vox, don't run ext3
[04:53] <DDR> oh ok
[04:53] <nalioth> The_Vox: means you should check your hd more carefully at that point
[04:53] <venzen> DDR: you need samba - but that is a learning curve ...
[04:54] <sambagirl> when you do sharing on ubuntu does it work?
[04:54] <kjs3> So...other than a bad image, anyone have an idea why I'd get "[91.057796]  Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found.  Try passing init= option to kernel." before it hangs.
[04:54] <The_Vox> nalioth, I'd love to, but it wants root's password
[04:54] <bur[n] er> sambagirl: yes
[04:54] <evanpro> voidlogic, checking, one sec
[04:54] <The_Vox> voidlogic, never had problems with ext3 before
[04:54] <sambagirl> i cannot see anything on a windows or macintosh or amiga computer on network.
[04:54] <nalioth> The_Vox: so use yours
[04:54] <The_Vox> nalioth, uhm...doesn't like my password.
[04:54] <sambagirl> shibby?
[04:54] <bur[n] er> cause the gnome-panel in breezy is buggy as hell
[04:55] <nalioth> The_Vox: then i dont know what to tell ya
[04:55] <sambagirl> sounds like dwarfs shibby, breezy, buggy :)
[04:55] <voidlogic> TheVox: yeah, after somthing like that happend to me I switched to ReiserFS, its been smooth sailing since an all my production servers
[04:55] <venzen> sambagirl: are you using the same workgroup on all of them?
[04:55] <WhiteRabbit> bur[n] er, havent you ever saw "Dude weres my cars"..?
[04:55] <sambagirl> no i not think so i check it. it is in our house
[04:55] <WhiteRabbit> shibby means the awsome
[04:55] <The_Vox> voidlogic, I went the other route...ran from reiserfs after an ugly experience in a production server
[04:55] <glick> hmm why does my cdrom not sound like it writting when i attempt to write files to it via the gnome interface
[04:55] <voidlogic> how long ago? I didn't run it at first
[04:55] <sambagirl> venzen where you living?
[04:56] <voidlogic> only the past year or so
[04:56] <The_Vox> voidlogic, uhm...2 years ago or so
[04:56] <venzen> sambagirl: you have to google samba configuration - especially: smb.conf file
[04:56] <voidlogic> I tested it then, it is VERY stable now, *cross my heart hope too die*
[04:56] <venzen> sambagirl: London
[04:56] <sportman> how do i update to the latest beta of gnome
[04:56] <voidlogic> I would give it ago, your in for a plesant supprise
[04:56] <sand_it> hallo everyone
[04:56] <sportman> do i have to compile from source?
[04:57] <bob2> sportman: does it even exuist yet?
[04:57] <sportman> my ubuntu install is very old
[04:57] <WhiteRabbit> sambagirl, I can handle the bugs
[04:57] <bob2> sportman: no it's not
[04:57] <bob2> sportman: it's from april
[04:57] <venzen> sportman: how old - warty?
[04:57] <bob2> sportman: the latest version of gnome came out like a week ago
[04:57] <WhiteRabbit> sambagirl, but theres not really much if any atm
[04:57] <sportman> yea, not breezy
[04:57] <nybble> ewweellll, night all
[04:57] <sand_it> is there someone that can give me an advice, how to play mp3 songs in my ubuntu
[04:57] <sportman> yea how cna i get that version bob2
[04:57] <bob2> "6 months" is not "vert old"
[04:58] <bob2> sportman: by upgrading to breezy
[04:58] <bob2> sportman: but I wouldn't advise that if you care about binary drivers
[04:58] <bob2> sand_it: that's in the FAQ
[04:58] <sportman> ahh
[04:58] <bob2> sand_it: /msg ubotu restricted
[04:58] <bur[n] er> or if you care about gnome-panel :\
[04:58] <voidlogic> sand_it: enable the currently disabled sources is the package manager and get the all gstreamer plugin
[04:58] <voidlogic> sand_it: gstreamer.08-all, or somthing like that
[04:58] <venzen> bob2: hang on, man, upgrading to breezy is too drastic for mp3 support
[04:59] <sportman> what windows manager or gui should i use for gaming
[04:59] <bob2> venzen: indeed, when did I suggste that?
[04:59] <bur[n] er> sportman: something basic like fluxbox or xfce?
[04:59] <sand_it> thanks
[04:59] <voidlogic> sportman: most games run fullscreen, so it does not matter, i'd go with Gnome since its better supported
[04:59] <durt> xfce is super
[04:59] <venzen> sportman: see www.ubuntuguide.com or fire up synaptic and search for xmms packages - there's an mp3 support package in there
[05:00] <sportman> i wasnt asking for mp3 support, lol but thanks
[05:00] <venzen> sportman what is your distro called?
[05:00] <sportman> hoary
[05:00] <dabar> bob2: can you please read the "ask the bot" factoid and fix it so it works in this way. I tell the bot, tell $person about ask the bot $factoidName and he says everything same as now, but replaces mp3 with $factoidName?
[05:00] <grodius> How do you update Firefox
[05:00] <voidlogic> venzen: sand_it was looking, and all you need to the gstreamer plugin and all is well for Rythm box
[05:00] <bur[n] er> bob2: can i ask you for some help troubleshooting gnome-panel & it's evolution integration?  everytime i go to gnome-panel's properties, the keyring manager pops up hoping to get my OLD evolution username & password for some reason... I'm just out of troubleshooting ideas
[05:00] <Madeye> morning
[05:01] <bob2> grodius: ubuntu has the latest available firefox version
[05:01] <cafuego_> bur[n] er: install the keyring manager and remove the old username entry
[05:01] <venzen> sportman: sorry - I meant to post fao sand_it
[05:01] <bob2> bur[n] er: I don't use evolution, sorry
[05:01] <bur[n] er> i've apt-get remove --purged gnome-panel evolution* && rm -rf ~/.configfiles && apt-get install gnome-panel
[05:01] <voidlogic> ALL: I'm looking for a topic for so I can apply for research, anyone have any cool ideas?
[05:01] <GURT> i'm having a problem with video files.. with xine and totum.. xime has no sound.. totem has no picture
[05:01] <bur[n] er> well, it's gnome-panel
[05:01] <bur[n] er> i'm not even using evolution and I thought I cleared it..
[05:01] <bob2> voidlogic: merging in distributed revision control systems
[05:01] <voidlogic> GURT: get vlc
[05:01] <durt> ubuntu doesnt have firefox 1.5 does it? which is much much more responsive that 1.0.6
[05:01] <sand_it> and how can i play 'Avi, mpg' and other windows movie files ?
[05:02] <bur[n] er> cafuego_: I had the same idea... I did that, and it prompts me for username password still... for the panel!  not even evolution
[05:02] <grodius> How do I configure a 5 button Intellimouse Explorer?
[05:02] <durt> sand_it get w32codecs
[05:02] <WhiteRabbit> !repos
[05:02] <ubotu> somebody said repos was at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[05:02] <bob2> durt: 1.5 has not been released
[05:02] <voidlogic> bob2: thats an interesting idea, i'll write it down, any others?
[05:02] <Yomic> Can anyone suggest a good place to buy a laptop/notebook for college? (the college has high minimum requirements)
[05:02] <durt> bob2: but the beta works well enough
[05:02] <bob2> durt: yeah, it seems less slow
[05:02] <sand_it> where can i get that codecs ?
[05:02] <bz0b> man, when is final being released
[05:03] <bob2> Yomic: high minimum requirements for what?
[05:03] <bz0b> !breezy
[05:03] <bur[n] er> cafuego_: can i show you via vnc?  if you've got a sec?
[05:03] <bz0b> !breazy
[05:03] <ubotu> bz0b: Not a clue
[05:03] <cafuego_> durt: Are you suggesting Ubuntu start shipping with beta software?
[05:03] <voidlogic> Yomic: www.tigerdirect.com has some very nice eMachine AMD64 laptops that should fit the bill
[05:03] <sambagirl> did you know USB mouse works excellent with ubuntu?
[05:03] <Yomic> bob2: The computers' specs.
[05:03] <hknezer> if i just installed ubuntu, do i have all the necessary prereqs to install gcc
[05:03] <teimu> can anyone recommend an alternative to Partition Magic? it doesnt like my HD for some reason.
[05:03] <sambagirl> whta about using a PDA or Pocket PC with it?
[05:03] <venzen> sand_it: see ubuntuguide.org
[05:03] <[Spooky] > anyone here tht uses Skype on "Linux - Linux" ?
[05:03] <nalioth> teimu: qtparted
[05:04] <bob2> Yomic: why do they care? surely it depends on what course you're doing?
[05:04] <bob2> hknezer: no, you need build-essential
[05:04] <nalioth> venzen: dont blindly recommend ubuntuguide, please
[05:04] <voidlogic> hknezer: just grab it using Synaptic, it will resolve any issues for you
[05:04] <Yomic> Computer Science.
[05:04] <grodius_> How do you configure a 5 button intellimouse explorer
[05:04] <bob2> grodius_: configure it to do *what*?
[05:04] <bob2> wtf, CS doesn't require a highly specced computer
[05:04] <durt> cafuego_: no, I'm just saying that just saying that firefox 1.5 isnt in the ubuntu repositories, unless i happened to be mistaken
[05:04] <venzen> nalioth: why, bro? installation of codecs is documented clearly there
[05:04] <Kyral> bob2, no sh!t
[05:05] <Yomic> bob2: LA Tech does.
[05:05] <Kyral> how old is CS now?
[05:05] <bur[n] er> durt: of course not, it's beta ;)
[05:05] <voidlogic> bob2, that deepends on how much compiling you do :)
[05:05] <nalioth> venzen: direct linking to the factoid is preferable
[05:05] <bur[n] er> people who want beta software should know how to ccompile it themselve
[05:05] <bob2> Yomic: are they teaching it on windows?
[05:05] <cafuego_> bob2: That depends on whether they require you to do C# projects in MS Visual Studio.
[05:05] <Agrajag> Kyral: computer science is probably about 100 years old
[05:05] <Kyral> Wait....are we talking CounterStrike?
[05:05] <Yomic> The specs aren't insanely high, btw.
[05:05] <venzen> nalioth - seen..
[05:05] <Yomic> bob2: Yes
[05:05] <Kyral> wrong CS....
[05:05] <bob2> there you go
[05:05] <kjs3> LA Tech?  My wife and most of her family went there...
[05:05] <bob2> cafuego_: yeah, guess so
[05:06] <mik3> is there a program for ubuntu like ttysnoop?
[05:06] <Kyral> Sorry, I see "CS" on IRC and I think CounterStrike
[05:06] <sand_it> thanks everyone
[05:06] <voidlogic> cafuego: my college is all C and Java, so GCC and javac
[05:06] <bob2> Yomic: froogle.google.com's good
[05:06] <sportman> the main repository that usually contains mplayer is no longer online
[05:06] <sportman> anyone have a diff one i could use
[05:06] <bob2> sportman: sorry, you're mistaken
[05:06] <Yomic> Alright, thanks guys :)
[05:06] <cafuego_> voidlogic: They run fine on a P90
[05:06] <mik3> is there a program for ubuntu like ttysnoop?
[05:06] <GURT> voidlogic, thanks
[05:06] <teimu> nalioth, do you know any windows programs for windows that do partition resize/management/etc?
[05:06] <bob2> mik3: yes, called "ttysnoop"
[05:06] <voidlogic> GURT: np
[05:06] <dabar> cafuego_: how do I make a factoid that does this: !dabar slon --- ubotu: well, dabar is really a slon. ?
[05:06] <cafuego_> sportman: I installed it about 30 mins ago, I suggest it *is* online.
[05:06] <bur[n] er> teimu: qtparted via livecd
[05:06] <nalioth> teimu: no. you can use the ubuntu liveCd and the qtparted on it
[05:06] <grodius_> bob2: configure it so that you can use all 5 buttons
[05:07] <bob2> sportman: you should be using multiverse for mplayer, not random other ones
[05:07] <sambagirl> what about Enemy Territory or True Combat can you run those games in ubuntu?
[05:07] <cafuego_> dabar: I don't think ubotu supports that syntax
[05:07] <WhiteRabbit> sambagirl, YEs
[05:07] <bob2> grodius_: you can already do that, just none of your apps know about it
[05:07] <bur[n] er> !tell sportman about repositories
[05:07] <sambagirl> wow
[05:07] <regeya> the main repo does not contain mplayer, sportman
[05:07] <WhiteRabbit> sambagirl, ET & TC:E rox0rs in ubuntu
[05:07] <voidlogic> cafuego: I for one like to recompile the kernel on a very fast machine with SCSI hard drives in RAID0 so I'm not waiting a week
[05:07] <bob2> grodius_: what do you want the buttons to do?
[05:07] <teimu> is it pretty reliable...that qtparted?
[05:07] <voidlogic>  ALL: I'm looking for a topic for so I can apply for research, anyone have any cool ideas?
[05:07] <bob2> voidlogic: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:07] <TokenBad> whats c compiler to use for ubuntu?
[05:07] <regeya> I suggest installing mplayer from cvs.  iirc there's something about that either on ubuntuforums or on the wiki. *shrug*
[05:08] <bob2> TokenBad: gcc, like every other unix on earth
[05:08] <dabar> so, dabar $1; ubotu: dabar is really blah, but ask me about $1. is not raelly possible?
[05:08] <voidlogic> TokenBad: GCC
[05:08] <regeya> mplayer even comes with handy-dandy debian-centric magic to help you build debs.
[05:08] <grodius_> bob2: I want them to be able to command my browser to go forward and backward
[05:08] <sambagirl> wow
[05:08] <bob2> grodius_: then you need a firefox extension
[05:08] <sambagirl> i playing it now
[05:09] <cafuego_> dabar: It's done via cmd: foo (.*?), but it doesn't like that. maybe different in this version (compated to dpkg on #debian), dunno.
[05:09] <dabar> You are missing the auxiliary verb to be. I am playing it now works.
[05:09] <bur[n] er> lol @ dabar
[05:09] <cafuego_> voidlogic: You don't need to recompile kernels for CS projects.
[05:09] <dabar> cafuego_: ok, whatever, not really important, I guess, would be neat.
[05:09] <grodius_> bob2: no i'm not talking about just firefox, ubuntu makes my 5th mouse button do the same as my 3rd, and my 4th does the same as my 2nd
[05:09] <sportman> ok
[05:10] <transgress> anyone know what the kernel in breezy was compiled in for amd64?  because i swear it looks like it was compiled with gcc-3.4
[05:10] <dabar> bur[n] er: we just got retaught taht in class today, a little grammar...
[05:10] <sportman> its odd when i add the non source repository i get errors
[05:10] <voidlogic> cafuego: that depends on your project, often your projects will be very large though
[05:10] <bob2> grodius_: perhaps you need extra lines in xorg.conf...google doesn't know?
[05:10] <sportman> but if i add the source one it works
[05:10] <sportman> so ill just compile from source :-p
[05:10] <bob2> transgress: less /var/log/dmesg
[05:10] <cafuego_> voidlogic: Still nowhere NEAR the size of the kernel.
[05:10] <bob2> sportman: dude, stop using marillat or backports at all
[05:10] <bob2> sportman: mplayer is in ubuntu
[05:10] <cafuego_> sportman: The 'universe'r epo and 'hoary-extras' works fine. Just enable and use.
[05:10] <mik3> is there a command i can use to see what packages i have installed?
[05:11] <voidlogic> cafuego: I think any good C-S student should build the kernel themselves once for the experence
[05:11] <bur[n] er> mik3: xterm -e dpkg -l |less
[05:11] <bob2> mik3: dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[05:11] <cafuego_> transgress: gcc-3.4
[05:11] <bz0b> any turks in here by any chance?
[05:11] <sportman> bob2
[05:11] <sportman> i know its in unbuntu
[05:11] <sportman> it just was acting up
[05:11] <sportman> lol
[05:11] <sportman> i dunno y
[05:12] <sportman> but w.e. it works fine now
[05:12] <transgress> cafuego_: so how would i go about compiling a module by hand and then insert it into the kernel when breezy now has gcc-4.0?
[05:12] <grodius_> bob2: I dont know how to do that, thats why I was asking in the server
[05:12] <cafuego_> voidlogic: Ticking boxes for hardware support is common sense. maybe people who can't RTFM should be made to, but it surely doesn't give you any useful skills for a CS degree (unless CS courses are more retarded now then they used to be, which is admittedly well possible)
[05:12] <hknezer> how good is ubuntuguide.org
[05:13] <cafuego_> hknezer: about 3
[05:13] <transgress> hknezer: |---------| <-- that good... give or take
[05:13] <hknezer> cafuego_: what does that mean?
[05:13] <cafuego_> hknezer: Dumb question, dumb answer.
[05:13] <bur[n] er> lol
[05:13] <bur[n] er> hknezer: not as good as wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:13] <hknezer> thanks for your help
[05:13] <jesusfish> anyone here know if there's a fix to the nvida + screen freeze bug?
[05:14] <jesusfish> (using breezy)
[05:14] <bob2> hknezer: it's not good to blindly follow it
[05:14] <hknezer> i understand that
[05:14] <bob2> but it has some useful information
[05:14] <cafuego_> voidlogicL I think my irc client lost the first part of that sentence.
[05:14] <bur[n] er> jesusfish: bugzilla.ubuntu.com ?
[05:14] <hknezer> that's the kind of answer i was looking for
[05:14] <transgress> is there a way to get a module compiled with gcc-4.0 to work with a kernel compiled in gcc-3.4?
[05:14] <hknezer> "oh i've looked at it, it has some useful info here, but some parts of it are kinda flawed"
[05:14] <hknezer> "namely x, y, z"
[05:15] <regeya> full-on SMARTASS mode tonight, eh?
[05:15] <cafuego_> it's good for some help with some problems, but not great for fixing your car.
[05:15] <bur[n] er> transgress: yes... ./configure --checkyourfreakinoptions :)
[05:15] <transgress> bur[n] er: no ./configure on it
[05:15] <bur[n] er> ./configure --cc=gcc-3.4 was mine
[05:15] <cafuego_> transgress: without kernel panics? No.
[05:15] <othomas> car..my carb is messed up
[05:15] <bur[n] er> oh oh oh... you already have the module, nevermind
[05:15] <transgress> cafuego_: so umm... is this sort of a bug... having a stock kernel compiled with a diff version of gcc?
[05:15] <bob2> transgress: what module is it?
[05:16] <transgress> trying to get the ndiswrapper source to compile still.
[05:16] <cafuego_> transgress: No, the kernel has interesting bits of code, that may or may not compile well (or at all) with different gcc versions.
[05:16] <bob2> transgress: then ndiswrapper modue just needs to be built with gcc-3.4
[05:16] <cafuego_> transgress: various gcc versions have various workaround for kernel bugs, just building a kernel with a newer compiler my mean those bugs aren't worked around.
[05:17] <transgress> bob2: can i get gcc-3.4 with breezy?
[05:17] <cafuego_> !info gcc-3.4 breezy
[05:17] <ubotu> gcc-3.4: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.4.4-6ubuntu6 (breezy), Packaged size: 472 kB, Installed size: 4520 kB
[05:17] <bob2> transgress: of course
[05:17] <bob2> transgress: in the gcc-3.4 package
[05:17] <transgress> k
[05:18] <transgress> thanks.  this will help a lot.  i was thinking backwards.
[05:18] <venzen> hknezer: ubuntuguide.org is alright and evry new user should read it once and try some examples - it contains a few errors too (typos), so just know that when a command syntax error is reported.
[05:18] <transgress> i also didn't think you could run two versions of gcc
[05:18] <bob2> transgress: you can, but only one is called gcc
[05:18] <bob2> the other is gcc-3.4
[05:19] <neighborlee> getting kernel panic on 2.6.11 and wondering where do I look to diagnose error ( VFS: unable to mount root fs:: and yes ext3 is set to Y in kernel config)..??
[05:20] <voidlogic> hey, in GCC is there a way to make it assume namespace so I don't have to std everything?
[05:20] <dabar> hknezer:  You know, I am learning in school about technical writing. And the different types. UbuntuGuide is a procedural document. Do this, do this, do this, done. That is what users want. However, some things on it, like the repos, are shown what to do, but not completely, and this can bork a lot of systems, and has, like mine at some point. It needs a little more explanation, and it will be incorporated into a ubuntu official FAQ wit
[05:20] <voidlogic> like in VC++?
[05:21] <nalioth> dabar: now catch your breath
[05:21] <dabar> I love good explanations.
[05:21] <kjs3> Well...back to debian.  It, and Redhat, and suse, load without issue on these not very unusual servers.  With google showing nothing, and no other help forthcoming...Cheers.
[05:21] <AzMoo> Isn't UbuntuGuide a wiki?
[05:22] <bur[n] er> no
[05:22] <Kyral> No
[05:23] <uglysmurf> anyone here maintain the same users across their network via ldap/pam?
[05:23] <AzMoo> Oh. Wonder what the hell I'm thinking of then.
[05:23] <dabar> AzMoo: wiki.ubuntu.com?
[05:23] <AzMoo> Heh, probably ;)
[05:23] <glyn> can anyone help me make sense of these instructions?  They're too complicated for me
[05:23] <glyn> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_NTFS_write_with_Captive_approach
[05:24] <mkyb14> anyone know how to clear the ram?  my ram is filling up and wanted to knwo if there was a command to clear it
[05:24] <uglysmurf> mkyb14, check to see which process is eating it up...could be a leak
[05:24] <mkyb14> how?
[05:24] <nalioth> mkyb14: close some programs
[05:25] <Kyral> glyn, don't touch Captive NTFS
[05:25] <Kyral> it will just destroy the FS
[05:25] <isym> question how do i edit with strace?
[05:25] <mkyb14> i have 786 pc 333 ram... i should be fine
[05:25] <glyn> it's already destroyed
[05:25] <Kyral> .....
[05:25] <glyn> I'm trying to get it to work by deleting files
[05:25] <transgress> okay who was it i was supposed to help with ndiswrapper earlier?
[05:25] <glyn> but no one will help me
[05:25] <mkyb14> nalioth i should have plenty of ram
[05:25] <Kyral> still won't work
[05:25] <transgress> ah yes i remember now
[05:25] <Kyral> there is a reason no one will help you. Its 'cause its VERY unstable and unsafe
[05:26] <bob2> neighborlee: 2.6.11 is both old and broken
[05:26] <bob2> neighborlee: use a real ubuntu kernel
[05:26] <uglysmurf> mkyb14, with a program with a nasty memory leak, it wont matter how much you have
[05:26] <glyn> but if it's already destroyed why's it matter?
[05:26] <nalioth> mkyb14: read ^^^^ uglysmurf
[05:26] <bob2> isym: wtf. what are you trying to do?
[05:26] <Kyral> because it will destroy anychance of you recovering it
[05:26] <mkyb14> uglysmurf?
[05:26] <glyn> how else would I recover it?
[05:26] <Kyral> Safe Mode?
[05:26] <isym> ok bob remember
[05:26] <glyn> Safe Mode doesn't work
[05:26] <isym> the quake program
[05:27] <Kyral> Reformat!!
[05:27] <Kyral> :D
[05:27] <isym> i got the libraries to work thank you by the way
[05:27] <glyn> dude reformat does not = recover
[05:27] <Kyral> Your point? :D
[05:27] <isym> but it kept saying couldnt load gfx .wad but its trying to look for it in /root/.trash
[05:27] <glyn> I need to get this Captive thing working
[05:27] <dabar> glyn: you cant get files off it?
[05:27] <mkyb14> how the f does firefox-bin use 'vm = 110mb'
[05:27] <uglysmurf> mkyb14, crack open gnome-system-monitor ...sort by VM size, and look for something being obnoxious with memory
[05:27] <Kyral> Sorry I'm a cynical bastard
[05:27] <glyn> I can but I want to use Windows and I don't have the CD anymore
[05:27] <isym> i straced it and i know FOR SURE gfx.wad isnt in my trash
[05:27] <isym> hehe
[05:27] <bob2> isym: please don't tell me you're running quake as root
[05:27] <Kyral> then bite the bullet and completely convert
[05:28] <Kyral> its a sign!!
[05:28] <bob2> isym: please
[05:28] <isym> no i put permissions on it
[05:28] <dabar> glyn: well, I cant help you with that, I dont think.
[05:28] <isym> chown what not
[05:28] <Fuji> hi
[05:28] <Fuji> anyone here?
[05:28] <isym> i know very little bout linux heh
[05:28] <Kyral> Fuji, there are 400 people in chan
[05:28] <Kyral> what do you think :D
[05:28] <isym> lol
[05:28] <isym> hahahaha
[05:28] <Fuji> kekekeke
[05:28] <neighborlee> bob2, sigh I am using 2.6.11 kernel source from repository
[05:29] <bob2> neighborlee: 2.6.11 in hoary is known to be uselessly broken
[05:29] <neighborlee> bob2, I need source so I can patch with badram patch..im having instability problems
[05:29] <isym> i just wanna know how to edit so it will look for the file where its supposed 2
[05:29] <bob2> neighborlee: why are you trying to use that instead of 2.6.10?
[05:29] <neighborlee> bob2, I figured ;(
[05:29] <mkyb14> how the f does firefox-bin use 'vm = 110mb'
[05:29] <bob2> isym: that's not what you need to do
[05:29] <bob2> mkyb14: because it's buggy
[05:29] <bob2> mkyb14: film at 11
[05:29] <mkyb14> film?
[05:30] <isym> damn bob feel bad for you .. heh like 100 customers :D
[05:30] <neighborlee> bob2, I was having trouble with 2.6.10 source too
[05:30] <isym> then how can i be able to change those paths
[05:30] <neighborlee> bob2, i'm a bit rusty with kernel config I suppose..if you miss something bam...;-)
[05:30] <Kyral> Anyway, I'm going to bed..
[05:30] <Kyral> night all
[05:30] <bob2> neighborlee: just use the ubuntu config then
[05:30] <Fuji> i have ubuntu 5.04, whenever i try to install it, it freezes near the end of install (when it sets up packages).. all my computer specs and info are at http://img307.imageshack.us/my.php?image=help9sy.jpg.  anyone know what could be causing this? motherboard? ram? please help..
[05:31] <Fuji> please help >_<
[05:31] <bob2> neighborlee: did you use memtest86 to see if the ram was really the problem?
[05:31] <neighborlee> I did yes
[05:31] <mkyb14> i dunno much about the process's i'm looking at..... how do i know i'm not goiog to kill something i'm using?
[05:31] <neighborlee> and its bad
[05:31] <bob2> mkyb14: then leave them alone
[05:31] <mkyb14> lol there's like 50process's
[05:31] <cafuego_> If you have bad ram, you ought not to be compiling stuff, let alone kernels.
[05:31] <mkyb14> ah
[05:31] <neighborlee> bob2, and I got that dain expensive rdram which is like $500 for 512mb and Ihave a gig of it..so thats not really an option ;-)
[05:32] <neighborlee> bob2, so I thought to try badram patch which looks decent
[05:32] <cafuego_> neighborlee: Did you get ram with decent a warranty?
[05:32] <neighborlee> cafuego, its a dell dimension 8200, just out of warranty ;(
[05:32] <mkyb14> has anyone here ever goten the remote desktop to work so that a windows machine can take control
[05:32] <rendi> !grub
[05:32] <ubotu> [grub]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:32] <cafuego_> neighborlee: Yuck
[05:32] <neighborlee> yeah bites
[05:33] <neighborlee> ram isn't very old either really
[05:33] <neighborlee> GO FIG ;-)
[05:33] <neighborlee> over a year of course so im sunk and enter badram...dont want to get new system yet as I dont exper. problems in XP so..
[05:33] <neighborlee> sigh
[05:34] <mkyb14> ou ou ... i need to make a shortcut to my /var/www on my desktop.... but it won't let me in the GUI, so how would i dothat in terminal?
[05:34] <cafuego_> mkyb14: ln -s /var/www ~/Desktop
[05:35] <mkyb14> awosome
[05:35] <isym> bob2 tell me really quickly how i can change that path
[05:36] <mkyb14> how do i (in terminal) install a .deb package?
[05:36] <cafuego_> Does ubuntu have a sparkle plugin for firefox yet?
[05:36] <cafuego_> mkyb14: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[05:36] <bimberi> mkyb14: sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[05:36] <dabar> isym: path is a variable. You can set it as any other variable. Whether this will fix your issue, or not, is not known.
[05:36] <isym> ok how can i change it
[05:36] <isym> so it doesnt look in the trash?
[05:36] <isym> :)
[05:37] <mkyb14> thanks
[05:37] <transgress> beagle makes me happy
[05:37] <dabar> isym, please /join #flood
[05:37] <windex> question about breezy?
[05:37] <bob2> isym: I think you misinterprted it's output
[05:37] <windex> anyone know if the i810 driver in breeezy has been upgraded to support rotating the screen
[05:37] <bob2> isym: put the pak file in the same dir as the binary
[05:38] <bob2> windex: does X.org 6.9 support it?
[05:38] <transgress> okay i got one last thing to wonder about
[05:38] <windex> bob2, i have no idea. i only know the patch is in cvs.
[05:39] <transgress> on my laptop... somehow... ubuntu magically loads my mouse as a ps/2... it's a touchpad... ALPS synaptic.  which means i can't turn tapping off... and i can't get the scroll bar to work... it works in fedora... but not ubuntu... any tips?
[05:39] <windex> bob2, i guess i will find out. :D
[05:39] <isym> binary?
[05:39] <isym> gawd i wish i was smart hehe
[05:39] <bob2> isym: as the bloody binary you're runniing
[05:39] <isym> LOL
[05:39] <isym> i think im frustrating u man im sorry
[05:40] <poofyhair> hello
[05:40] <neighborlee> bob2, ubuntu kernel config as in make-kpkg ?
[05:40] <glyn> how do I access the root account?  it keeps telling me authentication failure
[05:40] <bob2> neighborlee: no, as in the actual .config
[05:41] <bob2> neighborlee: look in /boot/
[05:41] <bob2> glyn: wiki.ubuntu.com/Rootsudo
[05:41] <uglysmurf> glyn, try sudo -s, try not to hurt yourself
[05:41] <bob2> glyn: the installer did explain this to you, and it is in the FAQ
[05:41] <neighborlee> bob2, ahh yes
[05:42] <neighborlee> bob2, thx that should fix me right up <wink>
[05:42] <Madeye> guys, whenever there is a typo in a web link, my firefox goes directly to Mircosoft.com website, why it's happening ?
[05:42] <bob2> neighborlee: note that you then require an initrd
[05:42] <neighborlee> bob2, but ive got ext3 built into kernel
[05:42] <glyn> when I type sudo -s nothing happens
[05:42] <bob2> Madeye: because it does an "I'm feeling lucky" google search and sends you there
[05:43] <bob2> glyn: look harder
[05:43] <bob2> glyn: it puts you into a root shell
[05:43] <glyn> sudoh okay
[05:43] <uglysmurf> anyone have any experience creating users for multiple machines across their network via ldap/pam?
[05:43] <Fuji>  i have ubuntu 5.04, whenever i try to install it, it freezes near the end of install (when it sets up packages).. all my computer specs and info are at http://img307.imageshack.us/my.php?image=help9sy.jpg.  anyone know what could be causing this? motherboard? ram? please help..
[05:44] <glyn> how do I compile my kernel?
[05:44] <bob2> glyn: you don't
[05:44] <cafuego_> If you need to ask that, it's probably better you didn't.
[05:44] <cafuego_> Ask ubotu about 'compiling'.
[05:45] <uglysmurf> i don't sit in here too often, but sometimes when you get one guy asking real lame questions back to back, i wonder if they're just trolling for fun or what
[05:45] <Madeye> bob2,  i see, but why it's always MS site?
[05:45] <bob2> Madeye: because they have a lot of google juice, apparently
[05:46] <Madeye> bob2, Thank you, *blessed*
[05:46] <glyn> it says on this site to compile my kernel by typing uname -rm
[05:46] <glyn> but when I type it nothing happens
[05:46] <AzMoo> heh
[05:46] <bob2> glyn: that has nothing to do with compiling your kernel
[05:46] <bob2> glyn: are you trolling or really clueless?
[05:46] <AzMoo> What site are you reading?
[05:46] <glyn> I don't even know what trolling is
[05:46] <neighborlee> bob2, so if I use the config for current runing kernel I can just remove need for initrd long as ext3 is set to Y right ?
[05:47] <bob2> neighborlee: and all your ide/scsi stuff
[05:47] <glyn> I really don't know what I'm doing
[05:47] <cafuego_> glyn: Why do you need to compile a kernel?
[05:47] <glyn> I'm trying to install an application
[05:47] <cafuego_> Such as?
[05:48] <bob2> glyn: what page told you uname recompiled your kernel?
[05:48] <glyn> Captive RPM
[05:48] <cafuego_> Ah, windows drivers.
[05:48] <bob2> then you'll need to join the captive ntfs mailing list
[05:48] <bob2> and ask them
[05:49] <poofyhair> or search the forum
[05:49] <poofyhair> or the gentoo forum
[05:49] <neighborlee> bob2, k thx
[05:49] <cafuego_> poofyhair: Yeah, just add CAPTIVE to the USE flags for the kernel, behind -O6 should be sufficient.
[05:49] <Strife> anyone know if there's a way to use transset automatically for certain applications?
[05:50] <poofyhair> lol
[05:50] <cafuego_> Strife: in KDE3.4 there is, not in GNome as of yet, I think.
[05:50] <Strife> I looked into devilspie, but apparently that only sets WM-specific things and doesn't have functionality to call a particular program
[05:50] <poofyhair> some of the gentoo stuff is more general
[05:50] <poofyhair> their wiki page about xorg is great
[05:50] <Strife> cafuego_: right...
[05:50] <veritas> Does anyone know how I can get ventrilo working with Ubuntu?
[05:50] <Strife> I just wonder if there's a devilspie-like option...
[05:50] <Strife> I haven't found one yet
[05:50] <gabnet> hello to all... newbe her
[05:51] <gabnet> any body here have an idea what hardware ubuntu is supporting
[05:51] <Strife> gabnet: lots
[05:51] <Plazma> anyone have any problems with a normal airport card + ubuntu + clamshell ibook?
[05:51] <dabar> gabnet: wiki.ubuntu.com/hardwaresupport
[05:52] <gabnet> Strife:  i am using groce mx4000
[05:52] <gabnet> but it think it is not supported with ubuntu
[05:52] <TokenBad> whats command to restart inetd?
[05:52] <Strife> if by groce you mean gforce, nvidia has linux drivers that work great, gabaug
[05:52] <gabnet> i cannot bootup if i use my video card
[05:52] <Strife> erm
[05:52] <Strife> gabnet:
[05:52] <bob2> TokenBad: sudo invoke-rc.d intetd restarts
[05:53] <Plazma> bob2, have you ever got ubuntu working with a normal airport card?
[05:53] <Strife> TokenBad: specifically, 'sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart'
[05:53] <veritas> what's the command to scan with a wireless device?
[05:54] <Strife> that's a bit more complicated...
[05:54] [fujie2(n=fuji@d198-166-48-70.abhsia.telus.net)]  my ubuntu 5.04 freezes during install near the end, when it sets up packages. do you have any idea what could be causing this?
[05:54] <bob2> Plazma: I dn't have such hardware, but I've seen people do it
[05:54] <bob2> Plazma: if it doesn't work, file a bug if no one else has
[05:54] <bob2> veritas: depends
[05:54] <bob2> veritas: sudo iwlist ethN scaning, perhaps
[05:54] <veritas> That's what I'm looking for
[05:54] <veritas> I knew the command, but forgot the ing..
[05:55] <gabnet> how can i install the driver if i cant boot using gforce
[05:55] <Versed> I have ubuntu working under a regular airport card (not extreme)
[05:55] <poofyhair> Plama: works great
[05:55] <gabnet> it freez when starting hotplug subsystem
[05:55] <poofyhair> I have one too
[05:56] <Plazma> poofy, did it work out of the box? or did you have to go through some hoops?
[05:56] <Versed> Plasma I have it installed on a G4 450 tower
[05:56] <poofyhair> Plasma: look at my blog entry about the whole clamshell:
[05:56] <poofyhair> http://ubuntuforums.org/journal.php?do=showjournal&j=23
[05:56] <Versed> don't know why there should be a problem.
[05:56] <poofyhair> out of the box
[05:57] <Plazma> poofyhair, thank you
[05:57] <poofyhair> any time
[05:57] <gabnet> strife:  may pc hangs during starting hotplug
[05:57] <Plazma> poofyhair, id rather not create an account, can you pastebin it perhaps?
[05:57] <durt> speaking of wireless stuff, anybody get the acx100 driver working?
[05:57] <kevogod> Anyone here use Screem Code editor?
[05:58] <poofyhair> hmmmm.......
[05:58] <Strife> gabnet: that sucks
[05:58] <poofyhair> I have an idea
[05:58] <Cin> lo
[05:58] <Strife> gabnet: what does that have to do with a geforce card though?
[05:58] <regeya> fujie2 it's rude to simply /msg people
[05:58] <FibreOptic> What's the easiest way to move my /home directory onto a different partition?
[05:59] <fujie2> sorry :/
[05:59] <Plazma> poofyhair, nm i just registrd reading now..
[05:59] <XoBelLoX> hey does any one know how to join offtopic if so can u help me?
[05:59] <poofyhair> ok
[05:59] <Cin> geforce card? problems?
[05:59] <poofyhair> I was going to post to wiki
[05:59] <regeya> besides, that's a bit vague...I wouldn't know where to begin on that one, sorry, fujie2
[05:59] <marlon_> hi there, please... can anyone help me how to enable file sharing on ubuntu linux
[05:59] <poofyhair> ask questions if you want
[05:59] <fujie2> np
[05:59] <hondje> FibreOptic: cp it, then remount it as /home
[06:00] <robotgeek> fujie2: no idea
[06:00] <durt> what do you want to accomplish and what problems are you having marlon_?
[06:00] <FibreOptic> it's that simple eh? good enough...
[06:00] <hondje> FibreOptic: Yep yep :)
[06:00] <marlon_> sir, i need to share file across our LAN with ubuntu
[06:01] <marlon_> im having difficulties using its samba and nfs
[06:01] <Plazma> poofyhair, that article doesnt really help me does it?
[06:01] <war-totem> anyone know off hand of 'speed up boot times with ubuntu' faq or something?
[06:02] <transgress> war-totem: remove unneeded services
[06:02] <HrdwrBoB> war-totem: yes, wait for breezy
[06:02] <HrdwrBoB> war-totem: it will be MUCH faster
[06:02] <transgress> yeah breezy is much faster
[06:02] <transgress> why is it so much faster btw?
[06:02] <war-totem> transgress, how do i do that?
[06:02] <poofyhair> Plasma: I'm sorry
[06:02] <war-totem> HrdwrBoB, when will breezy be ready?
[06:02] <HrdwrBoB> transgress: because it's made from awesome
[06:02] <poofyhair> plasma: I have experiance though, I can asnwer questions
[06:02] <dabar> transgress: cause you finally slowed down...
[06:02] <transgress> war-totem: /topic
[06:02] <durt> marlon_ from a windows machine?
[06:02] <poofyhair> Plasma: for me suspend works too
[06:02] <HrdwrBoB> people have been profiling boot processes and optimised them
[06:03] <war-totem> transgress, i dont ge tit
[06:03] <marlon_> from another ubuntu machine vice-versa
[06:03] <Plazma> poofyhair, oh im not knockin it. in fact its insightful, but see for some reason like, ill do dmesg and itll show the orinoco at the bottom , but i cjust cant see an interface referencing the airport card
[06:03] <dabar> neither do I get any tit:(
[06:03] <dabar> later/
[06:03] <foampiece> a loud voice thunders from above. I gave you linux and you stole windows?! a double minded nerd is unstable in all his ways.
[06:03] <war-totem> nm
[06:03] <war-totem> i get it
[06:03] <x[trick] x> how can i install abuntu?
[06:03] <Colossus> Does anybody know what the driver for a RealTek NA2016RB is?
[06:04] <poofyhair> PLasma: so you have hoary installed now, and it won't work?
[06:04] <FibreOptic> hondje: gotta make sure the filesys is the same right? i can't copy directly ext2 to say, a ReiserFS?
[06:04] <war-totem> transgress, where do i go to get rid of unnecessary services?
[06:04] <Plazma> poofyhair, hoary is installed, the os works great, its just not working with my regular airport card
[06:04] <hondje> FibreOptic: You can do that too
[06:04] <nalioth> fujie2: dont msg me please
[06:04] <fujie2> sorry
[06:04] <transgress> war-totem: in the rc*d directories... but you may not want to do that unless you really know what you're doing
[06:04] <hondje> FibreOptic: You're copying the data, not the inodes, it's filesystem independant.
[06:04] <x[trick] x> how can i start installing abuntu???
[06:04] <war-totem> transgress, ok thanks
[06:04] <Kyteen> hey bob2
[06:05] <x[trick] x> this is my first time to try to install abuntu
[06:05] <gabnet> yes i have a problem with my video card
[06:05] <durt> xtrickx put the cd in the cd drive and follow the diretions
[06:05] <transgress> you get the disc, put it in, and run with it
[06:05] <spockboy> x[trick] x: try downloading the CD ISO, and burning it to CD, that usually works
[06:05] <gabnet> i'm using gforce nvidia mx4000
[06:05] <billytwowilly> Seveas, are you there?
[06:05] <FibreOptic> hondje: very nice...no messing with tar compression to preserve flags etc
[06:05] <Plazma> poofyhair, thanks though im checking the forums now
[06:06] <x[trick] x> do i have to format first my windwos>??
[06:06] <durt> gabnet: are you trying to use nvidia-glx?
[06:06] <XoBelLoX> does anyone no how to join ubuntu offtopic i so can you help me please?
[06:06] <poofyhair> Plasma: Honestly....it should. Thats really weird. I have a suggestion though: put Breezy on it. Clean install if you can. It should just work.
[06:06] <Colossus> x[trick] x: you'll have to lose Windows, unless you want to get a separate hard drive for Ubuntu.
[06:06] <poofyhair> Plsam: The hoary
[06:06] <x[trick] x> oic.
[06:06] <hondje> FibreOptic: Yep :-) Linux is friendly when it comes to adding/removing partitions and drives
[06:06] <poofyhair> Plasma: I have on mine is the preview release
[06:07] <mongo> hello hello.  chatting from my fresh, first-time install of Ubuntu (breezy)
[06:07] <FibreOptic> hondje: thanks...wanted to check before i went ahead and messed my home dir ;)
[06:07] <hondje> hehe, no problem
[06:07] <poofyhair> plasa: now that you reminded me about the thing I am upgrading it to Breezy now
[06:07] <gabnet> no, i dont know how
[06:07] <x[trick] x> i had a 80gig hdd partitioned into 2 drives. can i still use my present partition??
[06:07] <gabnet> durt: i'm new to linux
[06:07] <billytwowilly> so on the hoary cd what do I have to copy over to get a local deb repository?
[06:07] <Kyteen> guys can anybody help me
[06:07] <x[trick] x> me too gabnet
[06:07] <x[trick] x> hehehe
[06:08] <durt> gabnet: then what have you tried to install?
[06:08] <marlon_> durt ps any idea? need to get the ubundu working on our LAN
[06:08] <kevin06> Kyteen, Ask your question, don't ask to ask...
[06:08] <Kyteen> k
[06:08] <gabnet> durt: i cannot boot using my AGP card
[06:08] <Bicchi> How exactly does one uninstall software in linux that wasn't installed with synaptic. For example i installed drivers for my video card from the ATI website and now i wish to remove them?
[06:08] <zovirl> any idea why windows often open up behind other windows?  Shouldn't they show up on top?
[06:08] <Kyteen> i have troubles starting my connection
[06:08] <Myrtti> arrrrhhhhhh
[06:08] <Kyteen> i got warning msg
[06:08] <XoBelLoX> (nalioth) do you know how to join off topic chat
[06:09] <gabnet> so what i did is i use the build video of my motherboard
[06:09] <durt> marlon_:  sorry :( i only share with a windows computer, so i dont know
[06:09] <bur[n] er> Bicchi: how'd you install them?
[06:09] <fevel> i have lilo and ubuntu on dual boot with win and my key board stopped working loging in to windows automatically
[06:09] <TokenBad> anyone here use glftpd?
[06:09] <bur[n] er> Bicchi: you make a deb?
[06:09] <x[trick] x> i had a 80gig hdd partitioned into 2 drives. can i still use my present partition?? after i installed ubundu
[06:09] <fevel> can anyone help
[06:09] <nalioth> XoBelLoX: you got there earlier, type in your text box "/j #ubuntu-offtopic"
[06:09] <fevel> it works though
[06:09] <XoBelLoX> ooo ya forgot thatnks
[06:09] <fevel> when i login to windoes
[06:09] <zovirl> bicchi unless the ATI installer has an uninstall mode, I don't think there is a good answer.  That's why packages are nice :)
[06:09] <Bicchi> bur[n] er: i used the linux installer that comes with the download.
[06:10] <Kyteen> once i use from command line : sudo pon it's gives me this answer
[06:10] <Kyteen> /usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/provider: unrecognized option '/dev/modem'
[06:10] <Kyteen> once i click on dialup connection it's gives me this warning box
[06:10] <Kyteen> kppp can not find:
[06:10] <Kyteen> /dev/ttySL0
[06:10] <Kyteen> Please make sure you have setup your modem device properly and/or adjust the location of the modem device on the modem tab of the setup dialog.
[06:10] <zovirl> bicchi if you could get a list of all the files it installed you could remove by hand
[06:10] <bur[n] er> Bicchi: good luck then ;)
[06:10] <Bicchi> zovirl: yeah unfortunally i am finding this the hard way
[06:10] <zovirl> bicchi yeah :)
[06:10] <gabnet> if i use my video card my pc hangs during start up
[06:10] <glyn> How come when I try to move a file into usr/src I get the message cannot write to it?
[06:10] <zovirl> bicchi can you just leave the files there?  clutter, I know...but do you really need them removed?
[06:10] <fevel> please ask here fujie2
[06:10] <gabnet> starting hotplug subsystem....
[06:11] <glyn> It tells me I don't have permissions to write to this folder
[06:11] <glick> why is fujie2 randomly private messaging me when i havent said anything in here for like an hour?
[06:11] <durt> gabnet, you mean if you use the nvidia drivers instead of the nv drivers?
[06:11] <Kyteen> did u get that kevin06
[06:11] <Bicchi> zovirl: no i don't, the problem is that i am trying to use my dual monitor setup and its not working. I even tried the fglrx drivers and no luck either
[06:11] <gabnet> no i still mot installing any driver
[06:11] <Plazma> poofyhair, it detected it now.. thanks
[06:12] <kevin06> Kyteen, I did. Are you refering to your internet connection?
[06:12] <poofyhair> how?
[06:12] <Colossus> Where can I download the latest kernel for Ubuntu?
[06:12] <gabnet> do i need to install 1st the driver before installing the card
[06:12] <zovirl> bicchi: no ideas.  the nvidia installer has an --uninstall option.  Don't know if ATI does also
[06:12] <glyn> can anyone help me compile my kernel?
[06:12] <Plazma> poofyhair, i dont know,, it just started working
[06:12] <durt> gabnet: so you mean when you plug the card in then i assume
[06:12] <glyn> Colossus>Try www.kernel.or
[06:12] <glyn> Colossus>Try www.kernel.org
[06:12] <Kyteen> i configure it real good
[06:12] <fevel> whell i guess no one knows why my keyboard stopped working during boottime
[06:12] <Plazma> glyn, there is nice documentation on ubuntu's website
[06:12] <Bicchi> zovirl: it only works when i use the ati drivers that come with ubuntu
[06:12] <poofyhair> plasma: thats the ticket
[06:12] <zovirl> bicchi: I have nvidia not ATI...
[06:12] <jrattner1> linux is amazing
[06:12] <poofyhair> plasma: good luck in future
[06:12] <zovirl> bicchi: so I don't really know
[06:12] <Kyteen> but the problem is with that warning hints
[06:12] <Colossus> glyn: yeah, but I was looking for a .deb.
[06:12] <Bicchi> zovirl: do you also have dual monitors
[06:12] <zovirl> bicchi: well, 1 monitor & 1 TV
[06:12] <poofyhair> dual monitors and nvidia rocks
[06:13] <jrattner1> I got a question, when the new ubuntu is installed, I'm going to reinstall my system from fresh
[06:13] <Kyteen> i tried both from command line and normal connect
[06:13] <x[trick] x> is there i web site where they can guide us in installing ubuntu???
[06:13] <gabnet> durt: my pc hang if i use my card
[06:13] <jrattner1> could i make a partition to keep my music in so i dont lose it
[06:13] <kevin06> Kyteen, Are you using an ethernet connection for it, or dial-up?
[06:13] <Kyteen> dialup
[06:13] <zovirl> poofyhair I don't know, nvidia's twinview didn't impress me.  I ended up using the other mode
[06:13] <kevin06> Kyteen, Sorry. Kepp asking, I haven't ever used dial-up.
[06:13] <fevel> its pretty self explanatory x[trick] x
[06:13] <glyn> Plazma>can you give me a direct link please?
[06:13] <Bicchi> zovirl: the problem is that when i move windows inside kde i get a lot of drag from the edges of the windows been displayed.
[06:14] <Plazma> glyn, sure gimme a sec
[06:14] <spockboy> Can anyone tell me what I should do to re-create my initrd image? i have LVM on top of a RAID5 array, and I recently changed disk configurations so they are now on different bus locations, and ubuntu won't boot...
[06:14] <foampiece> If we made this best user supported OS ever and put on the package sorry we dont support windows maybe would can play games too :/
[06:14] <poofyhair> zovirl: look at this wiki page
[06:14] <poofyhair> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors
[06:14] <Bicchi> zovirl: the same happens in gnome. so i think it has to do with the acceleration.
[06:14] <poofyhair> works great in ubuntu
[06:14] <kevin06> x[trick] x, Ubuntu uses the Debian installer. It is really straignforeward and well documented. Put the CD in power on, read the screens, answer a few simple questions...
[06:14] <meuserj> well.. that was weird.. tried to join this channel and it said I was banned.... could it be because I'm using Tor/Privoxy?
[06:14] <x[trick] x> well... thanks wish me luck :)
[06:14] <poofyhair> I have two screens in twinview's copy of xinerama mode, with xcompmgr turned on
[06:14] <Kyteen> there is no solution
[06:14] <meuserj> it works now for some reason
[06:15] <poofyhair> bicchi: only and nvidia card can solve that
[06:15] <zovirl> bicchi: drag?
[06:15] <Bicchi> zovirl: yeah like that ghost effect
[06:15] <cafuego_> fujie2: Please do not privmsg me.
[06:15] <x[trick] x> i have a dsl connection hope i dont have a hard time connecting to the net :)
[06:15] <fujie2> sorry
[06:16] <zovirl> bicchi: oh.  yeah sounds like you don't have the right drivers...
[06:16] <Kyteen> can anybody help me with dialup connection pls
[06:16] <zovirl> bicchi: but you knew that
[06:16] <Plazma> glyn, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[06:16] <jrattner1> I got a question, when the new ubuntu is installed, I'm going to reinstall my system from fresh, could i make a partition to keep my music in so i dont lose it?
[06:16] <Plazma> err
[06:16] <Plazma> glyn, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[06:16] <poofyhair> bicchi: you need hardware acceration to make that go away
[06:16] <Bicchi> poofyhair: can you tell me how?
[06:17] <kevin06> x[trick] x, I actually found an ethernet connection to the internet easier to handle on Linux than on Windows.
[06:17] <poofyhair> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20769
[06:17] <durt> jrattner1, you probably could make and extended partition and use it for the /home directory
[06:17] <kevin06> x[trick] x, It just worked out of the box, on Windows, I had to run a stupid wizard...
[06:17] <poofyhair> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=161495&threshold=0&commentsort=0&tid=131&mode=thread&cid=13506790
[06:17] <jrattner1> durt is it worth doing
[06:17] <poofyhair> for you bicchi
[06:18] <durt> jrattner1: dont ask me... ;)
[06:18] <bob2> fujie2: do not /msg me unless you're a friend or offering me money
[06:18] <x[trick] x> i'll take your word kevin... thanks
[06:19] <Kyteen> hey bob2
[06:19] <Kyteen> i am still stuck with that modem
[06:19] <Kyteen> i insalled as u told me but there is an error
[06:19] <Kyteen> once i use from command line : sudo pon it's gives me this answer
[06:19] <Kyteen> /usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/provider: unrecognized option '/dev/modem'
[06:19] <Kyteen> once i click on dialup connection it's gives me this warning box
[06:19] <Kyteen> kppp can not find:
[06:19] <Kyteen> /dev/ttySL0
[06:19] <Kyteen> Please make sure you have setup your modem device properly and/or adjust the location of the modem device on the modem tab of the setup dialog.
[06:19] <windex> ;msg bob2 hey! here's $20.
[06:19] <windex> doh.
[06:19] <Kyteen> pls read above
[06:20] <rendi> guys how to install grub
[06:20] <silverton> Is there a wiki page for supported hardware?
[06:20] <rendi> i have apt-get remove grub
[06:20] <x[trick] x> im jsut curious bout this ubuntu coz im not really familiar with linux specially tose comamnds
[06:20] <rendi> and how to get back
[06:20] <fujie2> sorry bob2
[06:20] <zovirl> anyone know why new windows keep opening up behind existing windows, instead of in front?
[06:20] <jrattner1> is the new realease out?
[06:20] <fujie2> im just running out of options lol
[06:20] <fujie2> been trying to get this installed for days
[06:20] <x[trick] x> and i must admit once i start installing this thing i really dont know what will hapen
[06:20] <poofyhair> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport?highlight=%28hardware%29
[06:20] <poofyhair> for you silverton
[06:20] <backz> Hey, I'm trying to access a windows ftp with gftp, but my system (ubuntu) is configured to use UTF-8 and my windows uses latin1, how I convert latin1 from Windows FTP to see in UTF-8 ?
[06:20] <fevel> can anyone help me alter my lilo boot sequence
[06:21] <fevel> god i love ubuntu
[06:21] <silverton> thanks poofyhair
[06:21] <spockboy> ho-hum ... can anyone tell me what I should do to re-create my initrd image? i have LVM on top of a RAID5 array, and I recently changed disk configurations so they are now on different bus locations, and ubuntu won't boot...
[06:21] <f34r> Hey ive got a guestion. I've got a wireless usb nic.. and was wondering if there is support for wireless usb nics in ubuntu?
[06:21] <bur[n] er> f34r: yes
[06:21] <fevel> can anyone help me alter my lilo boot sequence
[06:22] <silverton> What would I need to get a microsoft wifi card working?
[06:22] <silverton> ndiswrapper?
[06:22] <cafuego_> sheesh, *ANOTHER* new xorg
[06:22] <brussow> fujie2, are you installing from a downloaded iso?
[06:22] <bur[n] er> cafuego_: none of these new ones have fixed my glxgears ;)
[06:22] <fujie2> yes i am
[06:22] <kevin06> x[trick] x, I tried about 20 distros before coming to Ubuntu. It was also my first Linux experience. I was amazed at what Ubuntu could do out of the box. Recommended for beginners all the way!
[06:22] <poofyhair> sliverton: depends
[06:22] <poofyhair> some ms cards work out of the box
[06:22] <poofyhair> if it deosn't- ndiswrapper
[06:22] <brussow> fujie2, have you tried burning to new media?
[06:22] <fujie2> yep
[06:22] <silverton> have any knowledge of a Microsoft MN730
[06:23] <fujie2> well i dont know if its a hardware or software issue
[06:23] <fujie2> im 99% sure my cd is fine
[06:23] <zovirl> x[trick] x if you don't want to install you could try the live CD for a few days/weeks to get used to it
[06:23] <fujie2> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66074 is a post i made on the forum
[06:23] <fujie2> but noreplies
[06:23] <backz> How I fix the encode (latin1) on gftp?
[06:23] <Colossus> silverton: I've got a MN130, and I'm hoping the new kernel will work to help that.
[06:23] <cafuego_> !forums 66074
[06:23] <ubotu> Forums: Thread 66074 is: Ubuntu Forums - Installation freezes near the end at package install.. please help me >_<
[06:23] <x[trick] x> noce to here from you kevin.. just wish me luck.. im currently donwloading the iso file of ubuntu
[06:23] <cafuego_> fujie2: maybe noone knows the answer...
[06:23] <brussow> fujie2, ok. ill look at it and see if i can give any suggestions
[06:23] <f34r> bur[n] er - where can i find help on on usb nics?
[06:23] <fujie2> thanks brussow :)
[06:23] <fujie2> can i pm u?
[06:24] <durt> f34r: what model is it?
[06:24] <zovirl> brussow: is fujie2 at the stage where it is trying to download updates?  Might that make it freeze for a while if there isn't a proper network?  (just an idea...)
[06:24] <silverton> ColonelKernel, MN130?  or 730?
[06:24] <kevin06> x[trick] x, Ubuntu is simple enough to install and use I have convinced 2 people to migrate to it with mere IM chats. You don't need luck at all...
[06:24] <silverton> whoops
[06:24] <glyn> Plazma>The instructions are broken or something, they don't work
[06:24] <poofyhair> bye
[06:24] <silverton> Colossus, MN130?  or 730?
[06:25] <fujie2> i freeze at stage 2.. it installs packages, and just hangs
[06:25] <Colossus> silverton: 130.
[06:25] <fujie2> brussow may i pm u?
[06:25] <glyn> on this site it's trying to help me compile a kernel and it says to type apt-get install linux-tree-2.6.8.1 but when I do that it says it can't find the package
[06:25] <silverton> I wonder if they use the same chipset...
[06:25] <x[trick] x> juwt wondering.... ubuntu is just like windows??
[06:25] <f34r> bur[n] er: motorola
[06:26] <silverton> x[trick] x, um... no...
[06:26] <kevin06> x[trick] x, No, Ubuntu is a bit different, just as all operating systems are...
[06:26] <brussow> fujie2, i replied to that thread
[06:26] <fujie2> ill reply
[06:26] <glyn> anyone able to help me compie a kernel?
[06:26] <glyn> *compile
[06:26] <x[trick] x> so in ubuntu theres no such thing as auto detecting hardwares?
[06:26] <Sonny_Wertzik> anyone here know how to make evolution mail  to do a send/recieve automatically on start up?
[06:27] <kevin06> x[trick] x, Linux does "auto-detect" a lot. It works a little differently because most things on Linux have support built in.
[06:27] <fujie2> replied brussow :)
[06:27] <kevin06> x[trick] x, What kinds of things are you concerned about, with the migration/
[06:28] <glyn> Hmm I guess no one knows how to compile a kernel, glad I'm not the only one heh
[06:28] <f34r> durt : its a motorola
[06:28] <durt> motorola what?
[06:28] <f34r> im tryin to find the model
[06:28] <x[trick] x> my lan,
[06:28] <x[trick] x> i had built-in lan, video and sound
[06:29] <kevin06> x[trick] x, Do you have a DCHP server on that network? Most routers have one built in...
[06:29] <zovirl> x[trick] x I have a shuttle sk41g with built-in lan & sound.  Ubuntu detected it fine...
[06:29] <zovirl> x[trick] x try the live CD...it will let you know if it will work with your hardware without requiring an actuall install
[06:29] <backz> How I must do to convert in gftp the charset? Like in my fat32 on my machine, I use iocharset=utf-8, but... in remote ftp? what I must do?
[06:30] <x[trick] x> yeah i had a dhcp server
[06:30] <kevin06> x[trick] x, I ran Ubuntu on a laptop that had internal lan, video, sound. It also had a CD/DVD burner combo, USB DVD+/-RW drive, HP printer, HP scanner, and a few other things connected and Ubuntu got them all.
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> kevin06,  :P Lucky you.
[06:30] <x[trick] x> lol
[06:30] <Sonny_Wertzik> anyone here know how to make evolution mail  to do a send/recieve automatically on start up?
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> You dont want to know the current disaaster with my laptop :P
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> but on the bright side - knoppix live dvd 4.0 with a newer kernel did work much better on it.. so perhaps the next ubuntu will as well.
[06:31] <x[trick] x> :( @ dr_willis
[06:31] <durt> why would one want to send mail on startup?
[06:31] <glyn> Dr_Willis>Would you be able to help me install Captive-NTFS?
[06:31] <Strife> has anyone here managed to compile skippy-xd?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> glyn,  nope,. :P check the wiki and docs/homepage first?
[06:31] <kevin06> Dr_Willis, I have pics of this beast (negative meaning). I eneded up deshelling it and physically mounting it to my cofee table...
[06:31] <snausages> are there any apps that will capture any audio playon on my pc?
[06:31] <snausages> playing on *
[06:32] <zovirl> Sonny_Wertzik: that would be nice.  let me know if you find out :)
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> kevin06,  lol - that sounds like my OLD laptop - its sort of glued to a wooden frame i had to make.
[06:32] <jhosz> any one from the philippines here?
[06:32] <glyn> Yeah, it told me to compile a kernel but the instructions for compiling a kernel don't work
[06:32] <x[trick] x> me!! im from cavite
[06:33] <kevin06> Dr_Willis, Overheating?
[06:33] <esc_ape> anyone know french?
[06:33] <durt> no french
[06:33] <jhosz> how do u install yahoo? me from pampanga
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> kevin06,  it just had 'issues' with the plastic of the case failing.. and the hinges broke.. and.. :P
[06:33] <durt> jhosx: install yahoo what?
[06:33] <x[trick] x> tol bago lang ako
[06:34] <x[trick] x> nag tatanong lang din ako d2
[06:34] <x[trick] x> heheh
[06:34] <_eXoDuS> hey, quick question, is it possible to upgrade from an i386 ubuntu to an amd64 one?
[06:34] <jhosz> lipat ka din from win?
[06:34] <brussow> fujie2, check that thread
[06:34] <x[trick] x> oo e
[06:34] <Strife> so... no one has used skippy-xd?
[06:34] <x[trick] x> me raid din ba dyan?
[06:34] <Cashel> holy snikes batman, theres a lot of people in here!
[06:34] <war-totem> ubuntu can handle .deb files right?
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> _eXoDuS,  hmm.. i dont think so. never seen anyone brave enough to try. :P 0r even ask that.
[06:34] <glick> glick
[06:34] <jhosz> uu.. hintay nga namin
[06:35] <_eXoDuS> Dr_Willis: hehe
[06:35] <zovirl> jhosz use gaim to get on yahoo chat
[06:35] <durt> that is the craziest language i have ever seen
[06:35] <_eXoDuS> Dr_Willis: i think it should be possible in theory
[06:35] <_eXoDuS> but maybe im missing something
[06:35] <jhosz> yes..
[06:35] <x[trick] x> madali lang ba amg install ng ubundu??
[06:35] <x[trick] x> user friendly ba>
[06:35] <jhosz> basta may cd ka n internet
[06:36] <jhosz> i just burrowed mine
[06:36] <x[trick] x> pano ang office??
[06:36] <jhosz> may sarili sya n converter of office files
[06:36] <x[trick] x> nag d dl pa lang ako ng ubundu...
[06:36] <lastnode> i added ndiswrapper to some file so it'l load at startup
[06:36] <lastnode> now i want to take it out
[06:36] <lastnode> i cant remember where though
[06:36] <lastnode> anyone?
[06:37] <durt> lastnode: /etc/modules
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> _eXoDuS,  every time i tri the 64bit disrtos - i end up going bacl to the 32 bit ones...
[06:37] <fujie2> brussow: ive replied
[06:37] <Dr_Willis> _eXoDuS,  too many little annoyances
[06:37] <lastnode> durt : thanks
[06:37] <Cashel> _eXoDuS: I dont know much about amd64, but to do that I believe itd require amd64 chips to include all of the same calls as an i386... which sounds doubtful to me...
[06:37] <lastnode> durt, will that uninstall ndiswrapper totally?
[06:37] <lastnode> i might need it later on
[06:37] <_eXoDuS> Cashel: huh? what do you mean?
[06:37] <f34r> durt: its a Motorola USB11b
[06:38] <_eXoDuS> Cashel: amd64 runs 32 bit code perfectly
[06:38] <durt> lastnode, just comment out the "ndiswrapper" line and if you want it later put it back in
[06:38] <lastnode> durt, thanks man
[06:38] <jhosz> afk muna
[06:38] <Cashel> _eXoDuS: 32 bit code is one thing, but i386 system calls? It'll, for instance, run Windows 98 just fine?
[06:39] <sproingie> Cashel: of course it does
[06:39] <_eXoDuS> Cashel: yes
[06:39] <Cashel> Ohh
[06:39] <transgress> oh wow i don't have to kill esd when playing dvd's on my lappy anymore
[06:39] <mkyb14> anyone know where they store the wallpapers in hoary? so i can add my new ones
[06:39] <_eXoDuS> Cashel: im running winxp 32bit and ubuntu32 bit right now
[06:39] <Cashel> well then you should be able to do it...
[06:39] <_eXoDuS> i just want to know if there's a way to upgrade
[06:39] <_eXoDuS> without reinstalling
[06:39] <_eXoDuS> just using apt-get :)
[06:39] <transgress> _eXoDuS: yes
[06:40] <transgress> _eXoDuS: exchange in your /etc/apt/sources.list from hoary to breezy
[06:40] <transgress> if you see hoary... make it say breezy
[06:40] <_eXoDuS> transgress: im in breezy already
[06:40] <transgress> how can you upgrade then?
[06:40] <kevin06> transgress, What do you find so appealing? Any signifigant changes over day to day use?
[06:40] <sproingie> Cashel: in 32 bit mode, an amd64 basically *is* a 32 bit chip, and in fact can't switch to 64 bit that easily
[06:40] <_eXoDuS> transgress: i think you missed my original question :)
[06:40] <_eXoDuS> transgress: i want to upgrade from i386 ubuntu to amd64
[06:40] <durt> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:41] <transgress> kevin06: it's a lot faster, umm... i don't have to use little hacks like killing esd to play mp3s... it runs a lot smoother overall... OOo2 is nice
[06:41] <sproingie> Cashel: in 64 bit mode, it's actually doing something a bit more like emulation, at least as far as the kernel's concerned.  the app userspace sees a 32 bit cpu as far as i know
[06:41] <nalioth> _eXoDuS: not a good idea, you'll be losing functionality with the amd64 arch
[06:41] <Cashel> sproingie: ahhh...  I see.. if I were him I'd start over from scratch in that case... why screw with it?
[06:41] <_eXoDuS> nalioth: is it that bad still?
[06:41] <Cashel> ohh so its not true 64 bit then? It's 32x2 ?
[06:41] <sproingie> tho some 32 bit apps still choke on the arch if they try to get too clever
[06:41] <_eXoDuS> Cashel: no, it's 64 bit
[06:42] <_eXoDuS> Cashel: it just can run in "half" mode
[06:42] <Cashel> ahhh
[06:42] <_eXoDuS> runs 32bit code in the 64 bit processor
[06:42] <khermans> Anyone have problems resizing partitions in the new Breezy?
[06:42] <mkyb14> anyone know where they store the wallpapers in hoary? so i can add my new ones
[06:42] <khermans> this is on an IBM Thinkpad T42p
[06:42] <_eXoDuS> at 'almost' the same speed as a native 32 bit chip
[06:42] <spockboy> can anyone tell me how I should go about re-creating my initrd image in Ubuntu?
[06:42] <sproingie> Cashel: it's true 32 bit in32 bit mode, 64 bit in 64 bit mode, it's just the kernel that has to do some funky stuff to switch between the two
[06:42] <spockboy> i have LVM on top of a RAID5 array, and I recently changed disk configurations so they are now on different bus locations, and ubuntu won't boot...
[06:42] <khermans> the Breezy partitioner just hangs
[06:42] <transgress> i don't like flash anyway
[06:42] <Cashel> sproingie: does the kernel handle it well?
[06:42] <sproingie> i use 64 bit, but i run 32 bit firefox and some other stuff
[06:43] <durt> f34r: i dont know what kind of chipset that has, so im not sure if that will work
[06:43] <zovirl> mkyb14: can't you just right-click on the desktop and choose "change desktop background" then click "add new"?
[06:43] <_eXoDuS> sproingie: did you do a clean install?
[06:43] <lastnode> where can i get a list of ubuntu shortcuts?
[06:43] <lastnode> keyboard shortcuts
[06:44] <sproingie> Cashel: it works perfectly.  only app that didn't work out of the box was sbcl, and that had to do with some obscure change in kernel traps, not the emulation
[06:44] <mkyb14> but does it use if from my desktop of does it copy the img to the wallpaper dir. cuz i'm gonna delete the folder on the desktop
[06:44] <transgress> omg... gnome detects my keyboard shortcuts by default now?
[06:44] <transgress> so happy
[06:44] <freeza> hey does anyone have a list of the repositories so that i can install the 2.6.12 kernel with synaptic?
[06:44] <khermans> Has anyone used the new automated Breezy installation partitioner
[06:45] <sproingie> _eXoDuS: i have 32 bit in a chroot ... not sure what you mean by "clean install"
[06:45] <_eXoDuS> sproingie: when you installed 64 bit
[06:45] <sproingie> in fact my chroot is still hoary
[06:45] <Cashel> mkyb14: the wallpapers can be anywhere, where the default ones are I have no idea...
[06:45] <_eXoDuS> sproingie: im just wondering if i can upgrade my 32bit breezy to amd64 :)
[06:45] <_eXoDuS> without reinstalling
[06:45] <mkyb14> ok then anyone know how to make the terminal transparent?
[06:45] <sproingie> hoary with devfs, breezy with udev, that's gonna cause some pain
[06:45] <durt> freeza, you oughta git breezy then
[06:45] <zovirl> mkyb14: I don't think it copies them
[06:46] <khermans> mkyb14, Xorg transparency
[06:46] <transgress> _eXoDuS: i don't think so... i could be wrong... but i think that's kind of going the wrong direction... is there a big reason you wanna go 64bit?
[06:46] <freeza> well i dont want to upgrade fully to breezy yet
[06:46] <mkyb14> xorg?
[06:46] <Cashel> mkyb14: Edit > Current Profile > Effects
[06:46] <_eXoDuS> transgress: i got a 64 bit cpu :)
[06:46] <_eXoDuS> so why not? :)
[06:46] <zovirl> mkyb14: what I would do is just make a directory somewhere in your home directory and put all your wallpapers there
[06:46] <freeza> but i still need the new kernel to fix my double clock problem
[06:46] <sproingie> _eXoDuS: not likely possible -- debian doesn't really understand the idea of multiple architectures
[06:46] <freeza> and possibly fix the dma on my laptop
[06:46] <transgress> _eXoDuS: well in pure64 you can't use a lot of things... such as flash...
[06:46] <mkyb14> ok
[06:46] <freeza> i have one with a turion64 and dma doesnt work
[06:46] <_eXoDuS> transgress: but i can run the 32 bit version of some stuff, can't i?
[06:46] <transgress> _eXoDuS: but i mean i'm not discouraging ... just letting you know... i use amd64 myself.
[06:47] <zovirl> mkyb14: according to 'locate -i sparkle' the default wallpapers are in /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/
[06:47] <khermans> Cashel, that not true transparency
[06:47] <transgress> _eXoDuS: with a bit of hacking yeah
[06:47] <transgress> _eXoDuS: which removes a bit of the point at the same time
[06:47] <freeza> so all the forums have indicated that updating to 2.6.12 kernel will fix most of the things
[06:47] <zovirl> mkyb14: but again, easier to keep them in your home dir
[06:47] <mkyb14> you are god
[06:47] <sproingie> _eXoDuS: i run 64 bit because i also use xfs, just for the hell of it, and it's better with 64 bit native.  otherwise there really isn't much reason to switch
[06:47] <durt> freeza, well i guess you could use the breezy repositories to just get the kernel
[06:47] <khermans> Cashel, because ony the desktop shows
[06:47] <Cashel> khermans: *shrug*
[06:47] <_eXoDuS> sproingie: xfs?
[06:47] <Vaske_Car> Anybody tried to install FREE Panda Antivirus on ubuntu - link > http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/linux.htm   ???????
[06:47] <_eXoDuS> sproingie: file system?
[06:47] <durt> freeza: then change the repositories back
[06:47] <freeza> durt: where is the list for the breezy repositories?
[06:47] <transgress> how is XFS?
[06:47] <sproingie> _eXoDuS: yes
[06:47] <_eXoDuS> ah
[06:47] <sproingie> transgress: zippy
[06:47] <transgress> i've only used reiser and ext3 ... well and ext2 back in the day...
[06:47] <_eXoDuS> sproingie: and why is it better in 64bit mode/
[06:48] <durt> freeza: ubuntuguide.org
[06:48] <sproingie> _eXoDuS: it's a 64 bit filesystem
[06:48] <Cashel> khermans: its what he wanted...
[06:48] <freeza> ok thanks
[06:48] <_eXoDuS> sproingie: oh really?
[06:48] <transgress> i haven't noticed any major difference in reiser and ext3
[06:48] <sproingie> really?
[06:48] <_eXoDuS> sproingie: i've used xfs a lot in the past
[06:48] <_eXoDuS> sproingie: never knew it was a 64bit fs though
[06:48] <khermans> transgress, i have -- reiserfs will not allow you to use selinux
[06:49] <sproingie> i have a box at work that runs the same apps on the same hardware, and the reiserfs box runs circles around the ext3 box with filesystem-intensive stuff
[06:49] <transgress> khermans: which i don't use anyway
[06:49] <sproingie> i can drop 100,000 files in a single directory in reiserfs, no slowdown at all
[06:49] <sproingie> ext3 tends to bog after 10,000 files in a directory
[06:49] <khermans> reisefs doesnt have the file security bits that SE Linux requires
[06:49] <transgress> i've never had that many files to put in a single directory
[06:49] <x[trick] x> what inti virus can you recomment fot ubundu??
[06:49] <transgress> maybe now that i'm running beagle i will though lol
[06:49] <x[trick] x> what inti virus can you recommend fod ubundu??
[06:49] <transgress> x[trick] x: linux doesn't have virii really
[06:50] <khermans> transgress, yes it does :-)
[06:50] <transgress> linux is std free and needs no condom
[06:50] <transgress> not really
[06:50] <bimberi> x[trick] x: i don't use one, but there is clamav
[06:50] <sproingie> transgress: maildir spools will create lots of files
[06:50] <Vaske_Car> Is it big advantage to have 64Bit file server against 32Bit?
[06:50] <x[trick] x> lol@trans
[06:50] <transgress> sproingie: yeah we are having problems with that at work
[06:50] <durt> since when is ubuntu a penis?
[06:50] <sproingie> Vaske_Car: not unless you need really big files.  even then, not really
[06:50] <transgress> it could be a vagina... don't be so chauvenistic
[06:51] <Cashel> well.. you can mount with it :)
[06:51] <sproingie> my gf can climb up too
[06:51] <durt> dont be such a pussy :P
[06:51] <Vaske_Car> sproingie: so where 64Bit have advantage, for what kind of tasks??
[06:51] <Cashel> true enough..
[06:52] <x[trick] x> damn i still have 11hrs to dl ubundu :(
[06:52] <transgress> 11hrs?  you on dialup?
[06:52] <x[trick] x> damn i still have 11hrs tofinish dl ubundu :(
[06:52] <sproingie> Vaske_Car: for fileservers, there's really little difference.  for numerics it can be a big deal
[06:52] <x[trick] x> dsl
[06:52] <durt> it would take 11 months on dialup
[06:52] <transgress> it's ubuntu for gods sake
[06:52] <transgress> i downloaded photoshop at one point over dialup... left it on over night
[06:52] <x[trick] x> ubuntu sorry
[06:53] <windex> cafuego, hey, you around? i can't get gok to work
[06:53] <khermans> transgress, why you need photoshop?  get the GIMP
[06:53] <transgress> khermans: this was way back in the day
[06:53] <sproingie> mostly i run 64 bit for the hell of it, even with the pain it sometimes entails
[06:53] <transgress> i haven't had dialup in years
[06:53] <khermans> i used to have netzero
[06:53] <khermans> hacked it to get unlimited free hours
[06:53] <khermans> before that i used gopher at school for the net
[06:53] <transgress> i set my friend up with netzero when they were still free
[06:54] <khermans> yeah, netzero is not ZERO anymore
[06:54] <khermans> it should be like net20dollars
[06:54] <sproingie> speaking of netzero, what's this netzero 3g they keep going on about?
[06:54] <sproingie> it's not actually cellular 3G is it?
[06:54] <transgress> i'm sure it's crap
[06:55] <transgress> whatever it is
[06:55] <transgress> it actually is equal to crap
[06:55] <khermans> sproingie, prolly for phone access
[06:55] <sproingie> i'd love like crazy to have a 3g provider ... and phone of course
[06:55] <khermans> i use my minutes to get on the net from my verizon cell phone
[06:55] <sproingie> tho i guess all i need is a new SIM for that
[06:55] <lastnode> what does this do? echo "alias ra0 rt2500" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rt2500
[06:56] <khermans> haha, you know how to hack a new SIM card?
[06:56] <transgress> if you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person?
[06:56] <sproingie> khermans: presumably i'd get a new one with a new carrier
[06:56] <nalioth> khermans: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:56] <khermans> you guys know how to unlock cell phones?
[06:56] <khermans> sorry
[06:57] <x[trick] x> since were you are talkng about cell phones :) have your heard p950 of sony ericsson??
[06:57] <transgress> i recall before everyone and their mom used ubuntu, this channel had a lot more offtopic talk w/o fuss
[06:57] <khermans> if anyone has a verizon, i put together a tutorial for how to get online with it using Hoary
[06:57] <transgress> is it PPPoE?
[06:57] <nalioth> transgress: and so it has become more important to keep the channel on topic
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> My Mom perfers FreeBSD :p
[06:57] <khermans> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers.php?action=viewarticle&artid=450
[06:57] <transgress> and khermans take the tut and make it a wiki
[06:58] <spockboy> *phew* its a _little_ bit quieter
[06:58] <spockboy> can anyone tell me how I should go about re-creating my initrd image in Ubuntu? :P
[06:58] <sproingie> Dr_Willis: i love the hell out of freebsd, but linux loves my hardware a litle more
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> sproingie,  :P
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> "man marries FreeBSD . on the Next Jenny Jones!"
[06:59] <x[trick] x> hmp.. im on my 34th% download progress
[06:59] <x[trick] x> long long way to go...
[06:59] <x[trick] x> i still have 11hrs and 40 mins to go :(
[07:00] <durt> keep watching it and it will go faster
[07:00] <sproingie> golly.  how much you wanna bet netzero 3G means 3 gigs of storage
[07:00] <x[trick] x> lol
[07:00] <Cashel> .... ohhhh baby your tcp/ip stack is sooo sexy
[07:00] <sproingie> here i was thinking ... oh well, topic topic topic
[07:01] <x[trick] x> just in case.. after i installed ubuntu is there a possibility i might encounter a problem on my partition??
[07:01] <wolfie> Hi all new to linux and was wondering if you can how do you set a picture as the the desktop
[07:02] <bimberi> wolfie: right-click on the desktop and select "Change Desktop Background"
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> wolfie,  this is when you may want to check out a 'using gnome' tutorial online. :P  (or try right clicking on the desktop and see the  menu items there)
[07:02] <sproingie> right-click the desktop.  if you know how to do it in windows, the interface is startlingly familiar
[07:02] <wolfie> thanks
[07:02] <freeza> if you are dual booting linux and windows id suggest you use ntloader instead of lilo or grub in the mbr
[07:02] <h4zn__> were can i get themes?
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> actualluy I need to track down a decent newbie guide to gnome for total novices.. for friends at work
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> any reccoemdations?
[07:02] <freeza> and if you are new to linux too
[07:03] <bimberi> ubotu tell h4zn__ about themes
[07:03] <dtamas> freeza: why ntloader is better then grub?
[07:03] <sproingie> windows won't blow away ntloader
[07:03] <h4zn__> thanks
[07:03] <bimberi> h4zn__: yw :)
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> I just use my machiens bios menu/setting to pick what hd to boot. :P easier
[07:03] <bob2> freeza: why?
[07:04] <freeza> because if you are like me i tried a dozen distros before i settled on ubuntu
[07:04] <freeza> and by using ntloader everytime i formatted my linux partition i never risked breaking my windows partition
[07:05] <thewayofzen> When installing ATI drivers following the ubuntuguide.org http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65276
[07:05] <thewayofzen> how do i go from the driver RPM to the source
[07:05] <bob2> if you break windows by installing linux, you did something wrong
[07:05] <thewayofzen> or what do i do with the rpm i guess
[07:05] <bob2> thewayofzen: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:05] <bob2> thewayofzen: what was wrong with that giude?
[07:05] <transgress> however, it appears acpi still won't work on my lappy
[07:05] <sproingie> ntloader won't work if you format the partition the ntloader config is on
[07:05] <sproingie> so it's the same "problem" as grub
[07:05] <thewayofzen> bob2,  it says download the driver source in rpm format  and compile it
[07:06] <bob2> thewayofzen: no, the one I just pointed you at
[07:06] <thewayofzen> bob2,  i know how to compile when its ./configure && make && make install and so forth
[07:06] <freeza> no thats not true
[07:06] <transgress> when i tried using the gnome menu to hibernate and it just powered my computer down
[07:06] <bob2> thewayofzen: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:06] <freeza> not if ntloader is in the mbr
[07:06] <thewayofzen> bob2, didnt know it was there.. i started doing the ubuntu guide one.. im half way through
[07:06] <freeza> theway do an alien -d "rpm package"
[07:06] <pc06> oi
[07:06] <bob2> thewayofzen: the one I gave you will get you going in the next 5 minutes
[07:07] <freeza> that turns the rpm into a .deb package
[07:07] <pc06> help
[07:07] <bob2> thewayofzen: and will survive ubuntu upgrades, etc
[07:07] <pc06> newbie lng me sa linux
[07:07] <thewayofzen> bob2,  but the one i was using had me delete the file fglrx.ko
[07:07] <sproingie> ntldr is not happy if boot.ini is missing
[07:07] <bob2> pc06: you haven't asked a question
[07:07] <pc06> help
[07:07] <thewayofzen> bob2,  is taht gonna destroy me?
[07:07] <pc06> pls
[07:07] <pc06> ok
[07:07] <freeza> no
[07:07] <bob2> thewayofzen: I wouls people wouldn't put crap like that on the forums :(
[07:07] <freeza> theway the one you are using is good
[07:07] <pc06> hw cn i use yahoo msnger in ubuntu????
[07:07] <bob2> thewayofzen: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:07] <freeza> thats the same guide i used to install my ati drivers
[07:08] <bob2> pc06: use gaim, applications -> internet -> gaim
[07:08] <thewayofzen> bob2,  so i shouldnt follow the forums?
[07:08] <freeza> and it worked like a charm
[07:08] <x[trick] x> since i had my dsl connetion using windows, i cant dcc send here in irc... is there a possiblity that it will work with ubuntu
[07:08] <x[trick] x> since i had my dsl connetion using windows, i cant dcc send here in irc... is there a possiblity that it will work with ubuntu?
[07:08] <pc06> ok tnx
[07:08] <pc06> i'll try
[07:08] <bob2> thewayofzen: not in this case, unless you have a very particular reason
[07:09] <thewayofzen> bob2, im guessing "not to bug the #ubuntu guys when its in the forum already" doesnt apply here
[07:09] <bob2> x[trick] x: if your network is miscofigured such that DCC does not work from windows, it's unlikely to work from ubuntu, either
[07:09] <x[trick] x> :(
[07:09] <bob2> thewayofzen: mmm, their method is just unneccessarily complicated and unsupported
[07:09] <thewayofzen> bob2,  thanks for fixing me then.
[07:09] <sproingie> dcc is overrated.  guarantee that a number of clients have serious vulnerabilities in their implementation
[07:10] <bob2> thewayofzen: the url I gave you sets up the ubuntu-provided ati drivers, which will be upgraded and looked after by the ubuntu developers, instead of you ;)
[07:10] <thewayofzen> bob2,  that sounds PERFECT
[07:10] <thewayofzen> bookmarking for future reference
[07:10] <bob2> thewayofzen: I'd generally advise following things on the wiki ahead of things in the forum
[07:11] <foampiece> is there shockwave in linux?
[07:11] <pc06> cnt connect
[07:11] <bimberi> foampiece: no
[07:11] <khermans> Should an AMD64 chip running in 32-bit mode OS use linux-k7 ???
[07:11] <sproingie> foampiece: only flash.  not shockwave.
[07:11] <pc06> m using firefox to browse
[07:11] <crimsun> kevogod: sure
[07:11] <crimsun> kevogod: sorry
[07:11] <crimsun> khermans: sure
[07:11] <sproingie> i thought shockwave was deprecated these days anyway
[07:11] <bob2> khermans: yes
[07:11] <foampiece> we dont support windows...
[07:11] <pc06> is there any way to use yahoo msngr???
[07:12] <khermans> just wanted to make sure there was nothing wrong with that
[07:12] <foampiece> windows not supported here
[07:12] <khermans> pc06, use Gaim instead
[07:12] <trigg> pc06: GAIM is good. :)
[07:12] <bob2> pc06: are you from that fillipino internet cafe?
[07:12] <omp> pc06: what khermans said.. gaim is awesome
[07:12] <pc06> ah ok, how bout online games???? cn i use it here???
[07:12] <foampiece> best user support os...ubuntu. bring it
[07:12] <pc06> ya
[07:13] <pc06> ok i'll try to configure
[07:13] <omp> trigg: it's not GAIM :)
[07:13] <omp> trigg: The two acceptable forms of capitalization are "Gaim" and "gaim" (and not "GAIM").
[07:13] <omp> trigg: from gaim faq :)
[07:13] <trigg> omp: right. . . i'll be careful in the future . . .
[07:13] <x[trick] x> lol
[07:13] <omp> trigg: :D :)
[07:13] <trigg> :_
[07:13] <trigg> :-)
[07:13] <omp> so, how are you guys? :)
[07:14] <x[trick] x> well it sounds like
[07:14] <omp> i haven't been active in this room for days
[07:14] <khermans> bob2, weird -- i dont see linux-k7 in Breezy
[07:14] <pc06> io, cn u help me pls
[07:14] <trigg> khermans: should be there, I'm running it. . .
[07:14] <bob2> khermans: it's there, in the restricted section
[07:14] <bob2> pc06: please stop being so annoying, or you'll have to leave
[07:14] <khermans> trigg, i thought i saw it before i rebooted from 386 into 686 -- now i dont see it anymore
[07:15] <bob2> pc06: if english is hard for you, perhaps try #ubuntu-ph
[07:15] <foampiece> a loud voice thunders, i gave you linux and youve been stealing windows all these years?
[07:15] <omp> is breezy a big improvement over hoary?
[07:15] <trigg> khermans: like bob2 said, just make sure you have "restricted" in your sources.list
[07:15] <Flonne> khermans, linux-image-k7 might be what you want.
[07:15] <transgress> omp: YES
[07:15] <pc06> ok tnx nway
[07:15] <pc06> bye
[07:15] <khermans> i have restricted
[07:15] <omp> i guess i'll set-up a partition for breezy when it is released
[07:16] <trigg> khermans: here is the package name: linux-image-2.6.12-8-k7
[07:16] <bob2> khermans: well, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[07:16] <bob2> I suspect you don't
[07:16] <transgress> omp: are you using hoary?
[07:16] <bob2> omp: not atm
[07:16] <omp> transgress: no
[07:16] <transgress> oh
[07:16] <omp> transgress: gentoo
[07:16] <khermans> no that was weird, i rebooted from my linux-386 machine into linux-686 and linux-k7 went missing from my repos
[07:16] <omp> i just like #ubuntu :)
[07:16] <khermans> i did an apt update, and now its back
[07:16] <foampiece> no wonder windows has more gaming api...its the most stolen piece of software. turns everyone into guilty theives. your guilty! delete windows. support linux!
[07:16] <trigg> khermans: amek sure you have this - deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[07:17] <khermans> trigg, yes i have that too
[07:17] <trigg> khermans: I mean this - deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted ;)
[07:17] <khermans> i have that too
[07:17] <trigg> khermans: how about multivers and univers?
[07:17] <trigg> khermans: how about multivers and universe?
[07:17] <khermans> yep
[07:17] <khermans> its there now
[07:17] <khermans> i have to aptupdate
[07:18] <khermans> but it somehow disappeared when i booted
[07:18] <trigg> khermans: do an apt-cache search k7
[07:18] <khermans> trigg, yes it is there now
[07:18] <khermans> very strange
[07:18] <trigg> khermans: yea! ;)
[07:18] <khermans> hrm w32codecs is not there though
[07:19] <rob^> !codecs
[07:19] <ubotu> rumour has it, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:19] <khermans> it is virtual, and there is no candidate
[07:19] <bob2> khermans: /etc/apt/sources.list, #flood
[07:19] <khermans> bob2, this is in breezy
[07:19] <trigg> khermans: have to include hoary-extras or hoary-backports for that -- or use marilats repo
[07:19] <nalioth> khermans: www.mplayerhq.hu  on the downloads page
[07:19] <bimberi> !info linux-k7 breezy
[07:19] <ubotu> linux-k7: (Complete Linux kernel on AMD K7.), section restricted/base, is optional. Version: 2.6.12.12 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 48 kB
[07:20] <khermans> trigg, are there official breezy-extras and breezy-backports yet
[07:20] <transgress> umm no
[07:21] <transgress> can't really have backports for something still being updated
[07:21] <khermans> well, breezy-extras
[07:21] <trigg> khermans: the skeleton base structure is there, but I don't think there will actually be any packages until breezy is 'stable'
[07:21] <freeza> hey for compiling new kernel all i need are the kernel-image and kernel-headers files from the repos right?
[07:21] <bob2> freeza: no
[07:21] <trigg> freeza: nope --- install the tree
[07:22] <bob2> freeza: why do you want to compile a new kernel?
[07:22] <freeza> need it to fix some issues
[07:22] <freeza> like the double clock on amd64
[07:22] <freeza> and dma on my hard drive
[07:22] <bur[n] er> is anyone else's gnome-panel crashing like crazy or is this really just me with breezy?
[07:22] <transgress> bur[n] er: just you
[07:23] <bur[n] er> bah, i was afraid of that
[07:23] <trigg> freeza: kernel-tree-2.6.XX
[07:23] <freeza> ahh ok and that should also download everything else i need?
[07:24] <durt> use xfce bur[n] er
[07:24] <trigg> freeza: yep, you might need to make a soft link to a "/usr/src/linux" dir, though
[07:24] <transgress> bur[n] er: could try moving gnome's config files
[07:24] <bur[n] er> mv ~/.gconf ~/.gconf-bak
[07:24] <bur[n] er> or more than just that transgress ?
[07:24] <khermans> Is it easy to get back to Gnome if I install Xfce 4 and dont like it?
[07:24] <freeza> ohh yeah
[07:24] <trigg> freeza: like this: ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.XX-ubuntu... /usr/src/linux
[07:24] <bur[n] er> khermans: definately
[07:24] <transgress> and the .ICEAUTHORITY or whatever ... isn't there a .gconf2?
[07:24] <bur[n] er> khermans: just pick it in gdm
[07:24] <transgress> but move them one at a time
[07:25] <freeza> ahh ok
[07:25] <bimberi> freeza: btw it's linux-tree-2.6.10
[07:25] <bur[n] er> transgress: all the files within that?
[07:25] <bur[n] er> one at a time?!?!?
[07:25] <bur[n] er> that's so many files ;)
[07:25] <trigg> khermans: as long as you are using GDM, then just pick your Session
[07:25] <transgress> well if you really wanna be thorough do that... but i meant the directories
[07:25] <crimsun> khermans: there's a Session menu in gdm. Just choose GNOME instead of Xfce
[07:25] <khermans> bur[n] er, is there a manual gdm editor?  or you mean edit it directly?
[07:25] <bimberi> freeza: for hoary that is
[07:25] <rob^> anyone know if webmin is secure enough to use on my server accessing webmin over the internet?
[07:26] <transgress> rob^: we do at work.
[07:26] <transgress> and haven't been hax0red in a while  (hehe i said hax0red)
[07:26] <freeza> bimberi: im trying to install kernel 2.6.12
[07:26] <rob^> does it use ssl or the like?
[07:26] <trigg> khermans: when you are logging in, just pick the Sessions menu in the bottom left hand corner
[07:26] <khermans> trigg, ahh yes, thx!
[07:26] <bimberi> freeza: ok, linux-tree-2.6.12 then
[07:27] <freeza> hopefully the new kernel will fix my dma and clock, and maybe acpi
[07:27] <trigg> freeza: from an apt-cache search linux-tree:  linux-tree-2.6.12 - Linux kernel tree for building prepackaged Ubuntu kernel images
[07:27] <rob^> transgress, is the command shell module any good?
[07:27] <trigg> khermans: no prob. :)
[07:28] <freeza> ahh ok thanks
[07:28] <trigg> freeza: make sure you have kernel-package installed . . .
[07:28] <transgress> umm... i guess
[07:28] <transgress> it works
[07:28] <bur[n] er> transgress: i still get a prompt for username and password on boot :\
[07:29] <bur[n] er> transgress: after gnome loads rather... it looks like an old evolution account that i've since removed
[07:29] <rob^> might have a play with it and see how I go, thanks transgress
[07:29] <freeza> by downloading kernel-tree does synaptic also download kernel-package?
[07:29] <bur[n] er> i moved .gconf .gconfd .ICE*
[07:29] <bur[n] er> and the .gnome*
[07:29] <bur[n] er> transgress: any other ideas?
[07:30] <transgress> herm
[07:30] <transgress> i thought you were trying to stop the panel from crashing?
[07:30] <bur[n] er> transgress: i am
[07:30] <bur[n] er> i think this username & password prompt is related
[07:30] <transgress> herm
[07:30] <bimberi> freeza: no
[07:30] <bur[n] er> the username password prompt is tied to gnome-panel
[07:30] <bur[n] er> no idea how or where
[07:30] <transgress> did it still load your default stuff like your background?
[07:31] <bur[n] er> nope... i have the plain old ubuntu orangey one
[07:31] <bur[n] er> and no desktop icons
[07:31] <transgress> bur[n] er: try moving .evolution
[07:31] <bur[n] er> er... no computer or trash anyway
[07:31] <bur[n] er> I rm -rf'ed .evolution
[07:31] <bur[n] er> && apt-get remove --purge evolution*
[07:31] <freeza> ok so download kernel-tree and kernel-package, anything else?
[07:31] <bur[n] er> and still no dice
[07:31] <transgress> hmm
[07:32] <bur[n] er> that's how i feel about it :\
[07:32] <trigg> freeza: should be okay then .. . actually make sure you install build-essential
[07:32] <bimberi> freeza: will you be apt-getting these things?
[07:32] <freeza> im using synatic
[07:32] <bimberi> freeza: ah, ok, nvm :)
[07:32] <transgress> mv .* /stuff
[07:33] <transgress> ^ that's for the really desperate bur[n] er
[07:33] <bur[n] er> transgress: worth a shot :) ;)
[07:33] <transgress> bur[n] er: wait
[07:33] <transgress> bur[n] er: don't do that as root... be careful with it... because i've seen that screw some stuff up due to .. being part of .*
[07:34] <bur[n] er> no worries
[07:34] <bur[n] er> i know how to get it back if need be
[07:34] <transgress> k
[07:35] <bur[n] er> well that did it transgress :)  now to move back the files directory by directory till i find this :)
[07:35] <bur[n] er> can't believe I didn't think of that
[07:36] <transgress> woot
[07:36] <transgress> glad it's fixed... well start with those first four... the gconf and stuff
[07:39] <freeza> damnit
[07:41] <Ashen> yo
[07:41] <trigg> freeza: do you have a problem, or is it just a general kind of dammit . . .
[07:41] <transgress> oh woot... using /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh works
[07:41] <Ashen> anyone know how to get the terminal in the right click menu of breezy
[07:41] <Ashen> ?
[07:41] <transgress> that makes me so freaking happy
[07:41] <bur[n] er> transgress: thanks again... sometimes irc helps a brain fart
[07:41] <freeza> ok this is weird, when i thought i only had to download kernel-image, kernel-header, and linux-header i did it through synaptic and just finished downloading and installing and it added a boot option in my grub config for the new kernel. but i didnt download linux-tree, so does that mean if i reboot and try to boot into new kernel image it will be broken?
[07:41] <bur[n] er> Ashen: with a nautilus script
[07:42] <transgress> bur[n] er: anytime.  pretty sure you've helped me in here before.
[07:42] <bur[n] er> :)
[07:42] <freeza> im looking at my new grub config right and it looks like its right
[07:43] <_chris_> anyone familiar with apt-proxy and want to help me?
[07:44] <trigg>  freeza: in order to install new kernel, you don't need linux-tree, but if you want to custom compile, then you do . . .
[07:44] <freeza> ahh ok
[07:44] <Ashen> kewl... anyone know how to get the web style location bar back into nautilus in breezy?
[07:44] <Ashen> :)
[07:44] <freeza> well doesnt synaptic do a custom compile anyway?
[07:44] <nalioths_dog> freeza, no itdoes not
[07:45] <freeza> cuz this is what my grub menu.lst now says
[07:45] <trigg> freeza: no.  you would have to do that manually.
[07:45] <freeza> title           Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-8-amd64-k8 Default
[07:45] <freeza> ahh ok
[07:45] <trigg> freeza: there are a few "custom" kernels via synaptic (e.g. 686, K7, etc. . .)
[07:45] <freeza> yeah i downloaded the k8
[07:46] <freeza> ok i see
[07:46] <trigg> freeza: yeah, whatever works.  The only custom compile I "did" was when hoary had the 2 minute delay because of the KT400 chipset
[07:46] <transgress> amd64-k8 ... what is that now?
[07:46] <freeza> so im ok but if i wanted to recompile the new kernel again i should just get kernel-tree anyway?
[07:46] <trigg> freeza: yep... there is a wiki page on how to actually do it. . .
[07:47] <freeza> ahh ok ic
[07:47] <freeza> amd64-k8 is single cpu athlon64
[07:47] <transgress> ah i see
[07:47] <freeza> theres amd64-smp
[07:47] <transgress> i should get that i suppose
[07:47] <freeza> among others
[07:47] <dducko> I have a question, matter of Opinion i think.. currently I am on a cable connection, with linksys router.. I am the only connection on it
[07:47] <dducko> would it be better to just remove it
[07:48] <transgress> no
[07:48] <freeza> theres actually a lot of diff 64bit ones
[07:48] <neilc> does anyone know of cvsup packages for 5.10?
[07:48] <dducko> if i wanted to run a webserver or a ftp server
[07:48] <thewayofzen> completely uneffective :(
[07:48] <transgress> dducko: no... just configure the router.  it's a form of protection
[07:48] <bob2> neilc: cvsup is dead
[07:48] <bob2> neilc: since it's written in a language no one cares about
[07:48] <transgress> long live subversion eh?
[07:48] <transgress> what was cvsup written in?
[07:48] <bob2> subversion is also kinda crap
[07:48] <neilc> bob2: heh, i know :( hence the difficulty of finding packages...
[07:48] <windex> bob2: pascal? cobol? asm?
[07:48] <bob2> transgress: modula-3
[07:49] <transgress> buh what?
[07:49] <bob2> it's a descendant of pascal
[07:49] <transgress> ah i see
[07:49] <trigg> freeza: though it is pretty easy. . .  cd /usr/src ; sudo make oldconfig; make menuconfig (change stuff you want) ; sudo make-kpkg --append-to-version=custom kernel
[07:49] <windex> bob2, wow. that's on the list of languages i don't care about enough to list as a language i don't care about!
[07:49] <bob2> neilc: it doesn't even build on moderm systems
[07:49] <transgress> interesting to know
[07:49] <neilc> bob2: but the project i'm trying to sync with isn't planning to change any time soon...
[07:49] <bob2> windex: haha
[07:49] <windex> bob2, it's right up there with 'lisp'!
[07:49] <neilc> windex: ugh, lisp is still (very) relevant
[07:50] <freeza> ahh ok
[07:50] <trigg> freeza: that last command should be: make-kpkg --append-to-versio=custom kernel_image
[07:50] <neilc> windex: modula-3 on the other hand sucks
[07:50] <windex> <3
[07:50] <windex> i knew i'd get at least one.
[07:50] <trigg> freezaL I mean -- make-kpkg --append-to-versio=custom kernel_image
[07:50] <trigg> freezaL I mean -- make-kpkg --append-to-version=custom kernel_image
[07:50] <freeza> well i might have to custom compile anyway if my dma and clock isnt fixed
[07:50] <trigg> freeza: too much wine . . . blame the wife
[07:50] <bob2> neilc: best bet would be to try to find debian packages of it from a couple of years ago
[07:51] <trigg> freeza: have you tried hdparm?
[07:51] <windex> anyway, ubuntu related: I got ubuntu to install on my Fujitsu Stylistic ST5010 Tablet PC. Everything works except screen rotation and memorystick reader.
[07:51] <freeza> hehe
[07:51] <freeza> yeah
[07:51] <neilc> bob2: thanks, i'll try that
[07:51] <todd_> i just installed ubuntu 5.10 about 10 mins and i have no sound.  i went into alsamixer and turned everything up.  am i missing something?
[07:51] <bob2> neilc: http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/net/cvsup
[07:51] <freeza> ive tried every single thing on the ubuntu forums
[07:51] <windex> It took effort, though.
[07:51] <bob2> neilc: it may not run, tho
[07:51] <trigg> freeza:  well, that is definitely a pain . . . are you using SATA?
[07:51] <windex> and i guess screen rotation can work if you back down to using a fbcon driver.
[07:51] <_chris_> how can I force apt to get all the debs that are installed and put them in the cache dir once I've deleted them?
[07:52] <windex> but that's not 3d accelerated!
[07:52] <windex> :)
[07:52] <windex> bedtime. >.>
[07:52] <freeza> still keep getting an operation not permitted when i try to enable dma
[07:52] <freeza> i dunno, its on a laptop
[07:52] <chickboiec> ei >>
[07:52] <freeza> acer travelmate 4400 with turion64
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> freeza,  bingo.. been there done that...
[07:52] <chickboiec> need help how can i install yahoo msg?
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> freeza,  GOOD Luck! :P you will need it.
[07:53] <trigg> freeza: try using "sudo hdparm /dev/hda1"  (or whatever hdX partition you need)
[07:53] <bob2> _chris_: for i in $(dpkg --get-selections |grep install$ | awk '{print $1}') ; do sudo apt-get install --reinstall -d $i ; done
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> freeza,  got a compaq V2311 turion64 here.
[07:53] <freeza> did you get yours working willis?
[07:53] <bob2> xargs would be more efficient
[07:53] <freeza> yeah
[07:53] <deFrysk> chickboiec, you dont want that ugly thing, use gaim
[07:53] <freeza> when i do that i get the operation not permitted
[07:53] <chickboiec> how can i install it defrysk?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> not under ubuntu.. the thing Barely worked un der most disrtos. BUT i did have some success with it under the latest Knoppix 4.0 live dvd
[07:53] <freeza> ahh
[07:54] <chickboiec> im here in the phil and i think my custumer doesnt know how 2 use it?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> freeza,  - i think theres some kernel 'fix's' in the works  to address some issues with that cpu
[07:54] <freeza> well whats weird is that the dma shouldnt have nothing todo with the kernel
[07:54] <trigg> feeza: weird . . . I don't use amd64, I am still on an old XP 2600, so I am not sure if there are issues with hdparm and amd62
[07:55] <todd_> i just installed ubuntu 5.10 about 10 mins and i have no sound.  i went into alsamixer and turned everything up.  am i missing something?
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> its the fact its a Turion64 :P theres some little changes I hear.
[07:55] <deFrysk> chickboiec, http://messenger.yahoo.com/ on the right side something about howto in debian  linux , use that howto
[07:55] <bob2> yes
[07:55] <trigg> freeza: probably a motherboard issue.
[07:55] <deFrysk> chickboiec, again ugly uglu limited
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> freeza,  i was able to enable dma for the hd on knoppix4.0 - but when i enabled dma for the cdrom - thw whole box would lockup. :)
[07:55] <trigg> freeza: I had tons of problems with my GA-7VAXP before 2.6.
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> but ive been skimming all sorts of message boards for many other disrtos on this cpu and - thers been some very interesting 'issues' :P
[07:56] <freeza> well i used the -X69 command in hdparm to enable udma5 and it did it but dont really know if dma is actually working
[07:56] <neighborlee> todd_, maybe you need to unmute something....make sure your  sound is enabled in : Systems > preferences > sound
[07:57] <trigg> freeza: you could always do an: hdparm -t -T /dev/whatever, then turn it off and try it again and compare results
[07:57] <todd_> everything seems to be enabled
[07:57] <freeza> actually willis suse 9.3 also enabled dma on my laptop but i had screen issues with it so couldnt use it
[07:57] <chickboiec> is it posible ? 2 use it defrysk?
[07:57] <freeza> i did
[07:57] <freeza> no change really
[07:57] <deFrysk> chickboiec, sure
[07:58] <trigg> freeza: then I guess it isn't working ;s
[07:58] <neighborlee> todd_, does running : lspci in console show sound card ?
[07:58] <bob2> todd_: define "doesn't work"
[07:58] <chickboiec> defrysk im just going to follow the instruction ?
[07:58] <bob2> todd_: does "pkill esd ; cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" make horrible scratching noises?
[07:58] <trigg> freeza: ok, the wife is calling me to bed, good luck all.
[07:59] <deFrysk> chickboiec, download http://download.yahoo.com/dl/unix/ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[07:59] <freeza> ok thanks trigg
[07:59] <todd_> hmm...lspci doesnt list it
[07:59] <deFrysk> chickboiec, sudo dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[07:59] <intelikey> for a text file i need a command that will remove linefeed before each line beginning with blank space ?    sed <blah>   maybe ?
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> freeza,  heh - i had mine where the system clock was running 2x as fast as it should.. I mean the actual "time" shown in the task bar clock was zipping by at over 2x normal speed. :P
[08:00] <freeza> yeah
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> freeza,  and the keyboard repeate was set to like 100000 keys a sec. :p
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> and numerous other issues.
[08:00] <deFrysk> chickboiec, and run ymessenger
[08:00] <chickboiec> defry where can i find it i hope uwould ber with me
[08:00] <chickboiec> ok ill try
[08:00] <freeza> i found a forum post on that for ubuntu
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> But heck - this was a $500 laptop.
[08:00] <freeza> and they said the fix was just get kernel 2.6.12
[08:00] <todd_> when i type "pkill esd ; cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" i hear nothing
[08:00] <freeza> for the double clock
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> freeza,  yea - i posted a few msgs to the fiorume -  i aint checked on them lately. SIlly formus search tools are a little annoying.
[08:01] <freeza> its easy fix they say
[08:01] <freeza> just add one command lemme find it
[08:01] <chickboiec> its said @ defrysk i should log in as root how can i do it?
[08:01] <cafuego_> trigger_ph: hdparm works fine on the amd64 here (insofar as the once device that uses ide is concerned, the rest is sata)
[08:01] <chesty> I'm trying to install a package through cfengine, I get an error "/var/lib/dpkg/info/nullmailer.postinst: line 31: 3: Bad file descriptor" I guess I've got to do something with fd:3, but what?
[08:01] <deFrysk> chickboiec, did you download it ?
[08:01] <chickboiec> yes
[08:01] <chickboiec> its already finish
[08:01] <deFrysk> chickboiec, sudo dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[08:02] <chickboiec> yeah
[08:02] <deFrysk> did that ?
[08:02] <chickboiec> im finish download ymessnger
[08:02] <deFrysk> now intall as I said
[08:03] <chickboiec> where will i type the root thing no idea with it?
[08:03] <ubuntu_> is it possible to establish an x window ssh tunnel with ubantu live?
[08:03] <deFrysk> chickboiec, no root , use what I said
[08:03] <cafuego_> uyes.
[08:03] <deFrysk> chickboiec, use sudo
[08:03] <bob2> ubuntu_: sure
[08:03] <mae> any good alternative to dia?
[08:03] <deFrysk> chickboiec, your username pass is your sudo pass
[08:03] <ubuntu_> I'm trying ssh -X name@hostname
[08:03] <todd_> weird, because i used hoary before this install and all i had to do was unmute the aux in alsamixer
[08:03] <ubuntu_> is there more to it than that?
[08:03] <Dr_Willis> well night all.. good luck on the Turion64 issues. :P
[08:04] <_chris_> bob2: your script makes me hit yes a million times;)
[08:04] <cafuego_> ubuntu_ 'hostname' must have the X11Forward option enabled in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[08:04] <transgress> hey what's the easiest way to switch from using kdm to gdm?
[08:04] <deFrysk> chickboiec, no need to become root
[08:04] <bob2> cafuego_: apt-get -y ...
[08:04] <freeza> just add no_timer_check in the Start Default Options section in your menu.lst
[08:05] <cafuego_> transgress: vi /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[08:05] <deFrysk> transgress, uninstall kdm
[08:05] <freeza> and that should fix the double clock
[08:05] <cafuego_> bob2: Your script makes me hit tab a million times...
[08:05] <ColonelKernel> im bored. I want to compile something.
[08:05] <transgress> thanks cafuego_
[08:05] <bob2> haha
[08:05] <transgress> rebooting now
[08:05] <deFrysk> transgress, it automaticly swithes to gdm then (if its installed)
[08:05] <_chris_> bob2: -y fixed it;)
[08:05] <cafuego_> ColonelKernel: try openoffice.org 2
[08:06] <ColonelKernel> ooooo thank you
[08:06] <chickboiec> @ defry im just going to type? sudo?
[08:06] <yarddog> does ubuntu use xorg or xfree?
[08:06] <deFrysk> chickboiec, sudo dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[08:06] <chickboiec> wht specific phrase should i type
[08:06] <crimsun> yarddog: Hoary and Breezy both use X.org
[08:06] <chickboiec> in the root?
[08:06] <cafuego_> ColonelKernel: If nothing else, it'll keep you busy for the next few days
[08:06] <yarddog> thx
[08:06] <crimsun> yarddog: Warty uses XFree86
[08:06] <transgress> deFrysk: yes but i like keeping it around
[08:06] <yarddog> k
[08:07] <p0y2> elo
[08:07] <chickboiec> where will i type it @ defry?
[08:07] <ColonelKernel> i could try out xmame too
[08:07] <deFrysk> transgress, check out cafuego's way :)
[08:07] <ColonelKernel> I miss playing marvel vs capcom
[08:07] <cafuego_> Sheesh,  linux-image-2.6.12-8-amd64-generic uses *70MB* of disk space?
[08:07] <transgress> deFrysk: i did
[08:07] <p0y2> elo
[08:07] <cafuego_> That's nearly as much as a source tree :-P
[08:07] <deFrysk> TraceGreen, I have a tendency to remove anything beginning with a k ;p
[08:08] <deFrysk> stupid AUTOCOMPLETE :S
[08:08] <freeza> ok time for reboot
[08:08] <chickboiec> dpkg: error processing ymessenger_1.0.4_1.i386.deb (--install):
[08:08] <chickboiec>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[08:08] <chickboiec> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:08] <chickboiec>  ymessenger_1.0.4_1.i386.deb
[08:08] <chickboiec> root@ubuntu:/home/user #
[08:08] <deFrysk> and stupid capslock
[08:09] <deFrysk> chickboiec, cd Destop
[08:09] <chickboiec> noob
[08:09] <chickboiec> how?
[08:09] <deFrysk> chickboiec, as I said
[08:09] <deFrysk> chickboiec, cd Destop
[08:09] <deFrysk> and then try again
[08:09] <chickboiec> wat will i d?
[08:09] <deFrysk> Desktop that is sorry
[08:09] <deFrysk> cd = got to
[08:09] <deFrysk> go to
[08:09] <chickboiec> ah ok
[08:10] <deFrysk> chickboiec, if you downloaded it with fireox its prob in your desktop
[08:10] <chickboiec> root@ubuntu:/home/user # cd destop
[08:10] <chickboiec> bash: cd: destop: No such file or directory
[08:10] <chickboiec> error again
[08:10] <todd_> i guess ill just reinstall breezy
[08:10] <deFrysk> cd Desktop
[08:10] <chickboiec> im a total gerk
[08:10] <deFrysk> chickboiec, capital D
[08:10] <tech_> hello
[08:11] <bluefoxicy> chickboiec:  why do you want ymessenger
[08:11] <chickboiec> wow
[08:11] <mae> any dia alternative?
[08:11] <chickboiec> im here in the phil.
[08:11] <chickboiec> all people here use ym
[08:11] <bluefoxicy> chickboiec:  it's not like it has video camera or anything, just point gaim at yahoo
[08:11] <chickboiec> the eula thing is all oer the pls
[08:11] <bluefoxicy> applications->internet-> gaim instant messenger
[08:11] <chickboiec> ?? how can i do that?
[08:11] <trix> hello
[08:11] <bluefoxicy> chickboiec:  add the account for the yahoo name you want to sign on as?  :P
[08:12] <deFrysk> chickboiec, I already told you earlyer to use gaim
[08:12] <chickboiec> is it posible
[08:12] <deFrysk> yes
[08:12] <chickboiec> how can i do that?
[08:12] <chickboiec> waaaahh
[08:12] <cafuego_> i can't install gaim-vv help help!
[08:12] <chickboiec> silly me
[08:12] <freeza> yay
[08:12] <freeza> it works
[08:12] <chickboiec> can u help to do that
[08:12] <freeza> willis u still there?
[08:12] <bluefoxicy> someone help him set up gaim, i'm going to sleep.
[08:12] <chickboiec> where will i go ?
[08:12] <deFrysk> chickboiec, open gaim
[08:12] <trix> i need help too
[08:12] <chickboiec> i havent tye the gaim thing
[08:12] <chickboiec> wait
[08:12] <deFrysk> nono
[08:12] <deFrysk> its in the menue
[08:13] <chickboiec> its open
[08:13] <chickboiec> where can i add?
[08:13] <deFrysk> applications internet messenger
[08:13] <chickboiec> iv seen it
[08:13] <cafuego_> chickboiec: start gaim. Add an account, choose 'Yahoo' from the protocol list.
[08:13] <er4z0r> re
[08:13] <bluefoxicy> you have to set protocol to Yahoo, enter your screen name, password, check "auto login" and 'remember password'
[08:13] <chickboiec> den
[08:13] <bluefoxicy> and you're good to go.
[08:13] <deFrysk> cafuego, thanks I need a break :s
[08:14] <kaelisra> ^^;;
[08:14] <deFrysk> havent even had coffee jet
[08:14] <chickboiec> wow
[08:14] <er4z0r> can anybody tell me how I have to set up my box so that rootmail is delivered to user on an other system?
[08:14] <chickboiec> im happi
[08:14] <kaelisra> Umm.. can anyone help me with my sound problem?
[08:14] <bluefoxicy> it worked?
[08:14] <chickboiec> im login right now
[08:14] <bluefoxicy> got your buddy list and all?
[08:14] <chickboiec> thank to all you
[08:14] <bluefoxicy> You can get on AIM and everything too at the same time
[08:14] <dducko> Would someone be willing to connect to my Website to see if its working.
[08:14] <bluefoxicy> Tools->accounts
[08:14] <chickboiec> need more help
[08:14] <x[trick] x> is there a yahoo msgr for linux for multi user?
[08:15] <chickboiec> is it posible to install ragnarok herE?
[08:15] <bluefoxicy> no
[08:15] <er4z0r> kaelisra: maybe someone can. State your problem ;)
[08:15] <cafuego_> deFrysk: Run for the coffee!
[08:15] <deFrysk> cafuego, Race!!
[08:15] <trix> how can i add a hdd?
[08:15] <kaelisra> thankies, well, i'm not entirely sure, as yet, what's wrong. breezy solved the fact that the driver wasn't there, but..  still, no sound, whatsoever
[08:15] <chickboiec> defrysk is posible to install my cam a@ gaim?>
[08:15] <bluefoxicy> x[trick] x: use gaim
[08:15] <thewayofzen> well.. i give up.
[08:15] <deFrysk> chickboiec, sorry
[08:15] <todd_> im having the same prob
[08:15] <er4z0r> trix: add it to what?
[08:15] <chickboiec> ah ok
[08:16] <cafuego_> chickboiec: No, gaim doesn't have video support (yet)
[08:16] <chickboiec> ah ok
[08:16] <trix> to my system
[08:16] <Somada141> do you guys know how to install an Live version of LInux like Knoppix on your hdd?
[08:16] <chickboiec> may be after a year ?
[08:16] <er4z0r> kaelisra: what kinda sound-device?
[08:16] <thewayofzen> ive tried installing that driver four times from that page and everytime my x wont start up
[08:16] <bluefoxicy> probably in a year to a year and a half
[08:16] <cafuego_> chickboiec: There isa  new project, which isn't packaged yet, which will have it.
[08:16] <marc^> ive got a good one: ERROR: debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)
[08:16] <kaelisra> its.. a hda intel
[08:16] <marc^> while installing
[08:16] <er4z0r> trix: you need to edit /etc/fstab
[08:16] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  don't package gaim-vv
[08:16] <chickboiec> how about onligames like ragnarok online is it possible
[08:17] <transgress> okay it's hanging on my desktop at checking battery state
[08:17] <transgress> how can i disable that?
[08:17] <trix> my problem is i am  a former windows user i migrate to ubuntu
[08:17] <er4z0r> trix: try man fstab
[08:17] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  it's experimental and when it's ready it will be merged back into gaim.
[08:17] <transgress> after the breezy upgrade/reboot
[08:17] <crimsun> kaelisra: ''tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''
[08:17] <chickboiec> is it posible? cafuego and defrysk?
[08:17] <kaelisra> alrighty.
[08:17] <er4z0r> trix: and now you want your win-partitions?
[08:17] <Yawgmoth7> Grrrrrrrrr
[08:17] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  it has to be a linux program.
[08:17] <deFrysk> chickboiec, nope maybe in the future
[08:17] <transgress> and where is the linux-k7 package for breezy?  in restricted?  because i have thatenabled but i don't see it
[08:17] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  if it's windows it doesn't run.
[08:17] <kaelisra> Mixers:
[08:17] <kaelisra> 0: Realtek ALC880
[08:17] <cafuego_> bluefoxicy: oic, right after e17 releases, 5 minutes after the inevitable heat death of the universe?
[08:18] <crimsun> kaelisra: ahh crap.
[08:18] <trix> yes all my files are in that hdd
[08:18] <kaelisra> crimsun, hm?
[08:18] <chickboiec> ah ic
[08:18] <bluefoxicy> cafuego: lol
[08:18] <er4z0r> kaelisra: umm didnt u say it was intel?
[08:18] <crimsun> kaelisra: #15031
[08:18] <trix> yes all my files are in that hdd
[08:18] <kaelisra> it is.
[08:18] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  gaim-vv was forked by the gaim developers and is a side project run by the gaim developers because implementing the vv changes is intrusive and breaks shit
[08:18] <er4z0r> trix:  no problem
[08:18] <cafuego_> transgressl: linux-image-2.6.12-8-k7?
[08:18] <kaelisra> but, it uses realtek, for some reasson
[08:18] <trix> what shall i do?
[08:19] <deFrysk> chickboiec, whats that ?
[08:19] <Yawgmoth7> So somebody told me that if i get the error Kernel Panic - Not Syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs or uknown block(0,0)that something messed up my kernel, so i tried figuring out how to fix it by booting up with hte ubuntu installing CD and i could figure it out. Any help is appriciated
[08:19] <chickboiec> @ defrysk ? wht is the purpose of the "wine" thing
[08:19] <trix> what shall i do
[08:19] <cafuego_> bluefoxicy: Yeah, i iamgine video support would warrant a complete overhaul.
[08:19] <kaelisra> crimsun, what did you say? i just get a letter, and numbers
[08:19] <chickboiec> whts the use of the wine?
[08:19] <transgress> cafuego_: yes
[08:19] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  it's like an "experimental" branch, like i.e. Gimp 1.3 was, except that it's only work on a feature that will take a while to develop
[08:19] <deFrysk> chickboiec, that to get some winapps to run in a windowslike environment in linux
[08:19] <transgress> cafuego_: also, at startup where it says checking battery state... it hangs... any clue how to fix that?
[08:19] <er4z0r> trix: thou shalt answer my query ;)
[08:19] <marc^> anyone have an idea?
[08:20] <deFrysk> chickboiec, my advise is to stay away from it as a newbie
[08:20] <chickboiec> ah ic
[08:20] <cafuego_> transgress: Probably an acpi thing, enable acpi or disable it.
[08:20] <chickboiec> ok
[08:20] <chickboiec> i have a shop
[08:20] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  The gaim devs work in mysterious ways.  :o  Also protocols like AIM and YIM and MSN with camera support are being altered, do you see a problem with breaking these?  :)
[08:20] <chickboiec> and my income derive from it
[08:20] <trix> what??, i'm only newbee user
[08:20] <chickboiec> im afraid that people wont be comming here at my cafe
[08:20] <transgress> cafuego_: k.  i don't really need that since it isn't a laptop
[08:20] <deFrysk> cafe ?
[08:21] <crimsun> kaelisra: bugzilla#15031
[08:21] <x[trick] x> cafe <<<<< internet shop
[08:21] <kaelisra> ah, i see.
[08:21] <crimsun> kaelisra: the ALC880 is a complete headache
[08:21] <Yawgmoth7> Could anybody point me in the right direction as to how to fix the problem i have, im sure that i can just do it from hte boot disk9I read that from googling the error) but i didnt explain what to actually do
[08:21] <kaelisra> *nods*
[08:21] <cafuego_>  transgress: See whatever package is doing that and uninstall it.
[08:21] <satafterh> when is Breezy due to come out
[08:21] <chickboiec> yeah @ defray
[08:21] <trix> help
[08:22] <Somada141> do you guys know how to install an Live version of LInux like Knoppix on your hdd?
[08:22] <deFrysk> chickboiec, I can list you in my directory if that helps
[08:22] <kaelisra> crimsun,  strange thing is, it has always claimed it was a intel high definition audio sound card.
[08:22] <deFrysk> talk about ot
[08:22] <crimsun> kaelisra: it is.
[08:22] <chickboiec> ok
[08:22] <er4z0r> trix: ok, ok no problem
[08:22] <kaelisra> crimsun, oh, ok.
[08:22] <aeho> Somada141, some live-cd:s have installers
[08:22] <er4z0r> trix: what kind of drives do you have? IDE or SCSI?
[08:22] <trix> i'm lost
[08:22] <crimsun> kaelisra: there seems to be very, very screwed up interaction between what the BIOS is reporting for the actual registers and what the driver can detect
[08:23] <kaelisra> *nods*
[08:23] <crimsun> kaelisra: as you can read in #15031
[08:23] <chickboiec> @ wht d u mean by adding me to your directory?
[08:23] <Somada141> but knoppix just puts in and doesn't ask you if you want to install or not
[08:23] <trix> IDE
[08:23] <deFrysk> chickboiec, better pm me for info and stuff , dont want to spam here
[08:23] <chickboiec> soryy 2tol noob
[08:23] <satafterh> any one know a good dvd authoring software
[08:23] <chickboiec> ok
[08:23] <kaelisra> erm.. where can i find it? ^^;;
[08:23] <Somada141> is there some command or sth?
[08:23] <chickboiec> how can i pm?
[08:23] <nalioths_dog> satafterh, dvdauthor?
[08:23] <crimsun> kaelisra: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15031
[08:23] <kaelisra> thanbks
[08:23] <kaelisra> *thanks
[08:23] <transgress> how do i disable acpi at boot?  just rm the rc file?
[08:23] <satafterh> thanks will try iy
[08:23] <x[trick] x> if i install ubuntu.. do i need a startup disk like in windows??
[08:23] <deFrysk> chickboiec, /msg deFrysk
[08:23] <Yawgmoth7> How could i go about repairing a kernel
[08:23] <er4z0r> trix: ok, then. And how many drives do you have. Respectively on which drive are your winpartitions?
[08:24] <crimsun> transgress: boot with either apci=off or pci=noacpi
[08:24] <kaelisra> heh. not the kernel panic, as well... >.<
[08:24] <nalioths_dog> x[trick] x, only if you want to be xta[tricky] x
[08:24] <glick> Yawgmoth7, what do you mean "Repairing the kernel"?
[08:24] <kaelisra> i had that happen to me, for a bit.
[08:24] <Yawgmoth7> WEll
[08:24] <Yawgmoth7> I wrote my problem up there
[08:24] <transgress> crimsun: do i add that to the grub menu.lst?
[08:24] <Yawgmoth7> Hold on for a second
[08:24] <crimsun> kaelisra: well, the kernel panic has been resolved, but the amp channels are causing a problem; they're basically throwing the init into an infinite loop
[08:24] <Yawgmoth7> So somebody told me that if i get the error Kernel Panic - Not Syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs or uknown block(0,0)that something messed up my kernel, so i tried figuring out how to fix it by booting up with hte ubuntu installing CD and i could figure it out. Any help is appriciated
[08:24] <kaelisra> ah, ok.
[08:24] <Yawgmoth7> There
[08:24] <trix> i have 2 hdd, the 1st hdd is my ubuntu, 2nd is the winpartitions
[08:25] <crimsun> transgress: yes, for #kopts=
[08:26] <Yawgmoth7> Yep
[08:26] <kaelisra> crimsun, thanks, anyways, for the help.
[08:26] <trix> i have 2 hdd, the 1st hdd is my ubuntu, 2nd is the winpartitions
[08:27] <transgress> crimsun: would it just be kopts=acpi=off ?
[08:27] <er4z0r> trix: ok try: sudo cfdisk /dev/hdb/
[08:27] <er4z0r> trix: without last slash
[08:27] <crimsun> transgress: sure. make sure you ''sudo update-grub'' afterward
[08:28] <trix> ok i will try it
[08:28] <marc^> "debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)"
[08:28] <transgress> crimsun: but like do i need the root=/dev/hda1 ro stuff?
[08:28] <marc^> fails while installing base files
[08:28] <er4z0r> trix: not sitting in front of it right now?
[08:28] <crimsun> transgress: absolutely
[08:28] <crimsun> transgress: just append the apci=off
[08:28] <myk3> hey
[08:28] <transgress> crimsun: k just making sure
[08:28] <ranjan> hi
[08:29] <myk3> when i try to run dvd decrypter i cant see the drive
[08:29] <myk3> i did the tut on the fourms
[08:29] <myk3> with wine
[08:29] <AndieB> Hi all!
[08:29] <yong_rivs> hi
[08:29] <linuxphantommxr> sup
[08:29] <pluffsy> hello
[08:29] <myk3> can someone help?
[08:29] <obsrv> I don't like Ubuntu for this reason: there is a lot of packages that are out of date!
[08:30] <obsrv> For example amaroK and Konversation
[08:30] <obsrv> they are always not up to date
[08:30] <AndieB> I'm having problem with FireFox and "cursing" slow DNS resolving (I suppose). Takes aweful long time to get a DNS resolve... I think... anyone got any idea?
[08:30] <brosco> HI
[08:30] <crimsun> obsrv: there's no choice; we have to freeze main at some point for rigorous testing.
[08:30] <brosco> HI
[08:30] <linuxphantommxr> what is everyone's favorite Linux ???
[08:30] <brosco> GO
[08:30] <nalioth> obsrv: you are only gonna get razor edge pkgs using gentoo or lfs
[08:31] <nalioth> obsrv: with any large distro, you're gonna be behind the edge
[08:31] <pajama> hi, I want to synchronize my laptop to a directory in my workstation. I've heard rsync is the tool to use, but I don't know how to make it ork
[08:31] <obsrv> nalioth that's why I use gentoo
[08:31] <yong_rivs> nick yong_rivs
[08:31] <yong_rivs> [uy
[08:31] <pluffsy> I'm trying to follow the RestrictedFormats howto but I'm failing. I added the repository in the howto but synaptic says: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net_dists_hoary-extras_main_binary-powerpc_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:31] <er4z0r> trix: still alive?
[08:31] <pluffsy> any ideas what's wrong?
[08:31] <nalioth> pluffsy: you using breezy?
[08:31] <obsrv> nalioth, so you say this is normal? I think you have a lack of package contributors
[08:32] <yong_rivs> yyi
[08:32] <pluffsy> nalioth: no hoary
[08:32] <nalioth> pluffsy: perhaps the server is down atm
[08:32] <Somada141> STUPID QUESTION : Can i install the ubuntu packages on other Linux e.g Mandriva?
[08:32] <crimsun> obsrv: main has a much higher regression bar than universe or multiverse
[08:33] <linuxphantommxr> any other flavor of linux better fpr beginner than Ubuntu?
[08:33] <nalioth> obsrv: if you have nothing to contribute, please leave. ubuntu is what it is.
[08:33] <crimsun> obsrv: and yes, we suffer from a massive workforce "lack" - less than two dozen maintainers for over 15000 packages? I'd say so.
[08:33] <bimberi> Somada141: no
[08:33] <yong_rivs> nickname
[08:33] <x[trick] x> can i used my nero in burning cd?
[08:33] <nalioth> Somada141: the pkgs should be available for those distros using their tools
[08:33] <AndieB> Anyone who can help me out with speeding up a DNS resolvning? Using a Wireless connection (D-Link AirPlus DWL-G650 and Netgear accesspoint/router).
[08:33] <obsrv> well gentoo has 20800 packages and they are allways up to date
[08:33] <Somada141> i found some packages but there aren't in .deb format
[08:33] <nalioth> x[trick] x: use gnomebaker, graveman or k3b
[08:33] <obsrv> and there is always bleeding edge packages
[08:33] <cafuego_> Somada141: Simple answer: no. Correct answer: yes, but you will need to convert them and there will be problems running them.
[08:34] <Somada141> oh
[08:34] <obsrv> nalioth, I like Ubuntu as a distro, but fot this reason I don't use it
[08:34] <nalioth> obsrv: let us continue in #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[08:34] <crimsun> obsrv: that's wonderful, but the build system depends on the user's config. We have quite a few other things to contend with.
[08:35] <yong_rivs> surigao
[08:35] <pluffsy> nalioth: ahh it's not always me doing something wrong. now it seems to work with no changes, guess they just restarted or something. thanks.
[08:35] <nalioth> pluffsy: yes, usually it's network diffeculties
[08:35] <bimberi> pajama: not an answer but an alternative to have a look at - unison
[08:35] <yong_rivs> cebu
[08:36] <pajama> bimberi: do you think unison is easier to use than rsync?
[08:36] <x[trick] x> so that means that when ubuntu starts runing as my OS all the software that i used on my windows will be neglected?? am i right?
[08:36] <Somada141> One last thing : does each Linux distibution support a different format of packages?
[08:36] <myk3> anyone use dvd shrink and decrypter in linux?
[08:36] <myk3> useing wine?
[08:36] <yong_rivs> #surigao
[08:36] <chickboiec> root@ubuntu:/home/user/Desktop # sudo dpkg -i ymessenger_1.0.4_1.i386.deb
[08:36] <chickboiec> dpkg: error processing ymessenger_1.0.4_1.i386.deb (--install):
[08:36] <chickboiec>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[08:36] <chickboiec> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:36] <chickboiec>  ymessenger_1.0.4_1.i386.deb
[08:36] <chickboiec> how 2 fix
[08:36] <bimberi> pajama: i have found it so, others may differ
[08:36] <silverton> ymessenger?  yahoo messenger?  like, an official release?
[08:37] <cafuego_> Somada141: There are really only three formats, all distros support (use) one of these formats. Due to software versions and dependencies, packages may not be interchangeable between the distros, though.
[08:37] <chickboiec> nope i need 2 instll
[08:37] <nalioth> chickboiec: dont paste in here, please, use #flood or a pastebin
[08:37] <chickboiec> how 2 do it
[08:37] <silverton> wtf?  logged in as root and using sudo??
[08:37] <chickboiec> sorry for the disturbance? im new user
[08:37] <nalioth> !tell x[trick] x about equivelants
[08:38] <pajama> bimberi: thanks, I'll give it a try
[08:38] <chickboiec> wt will i type to log as sudo in the terminal?
[08:38] <bimberi> pajama: yw :)
[08:38] <AndieB> Somewhere I ought to change a config file for Synaptic Package Manger? It doens't connect to the internet to verify if there are new packages, anyone got a solution for me?
[08:38] <No1Viking> !tell me about equivelants
[08:38] <nalioth> what is the trigger for windows equivelants?
[08:38] <glyn> what does the kernel source look like and where can I find it?
[08:39] <No1Viking> !tell me about equivalents
[08:39] <glyn> it's not in /usr/src
[08:39] <[Chameleon] > glyn: kernel.org
[08:39] <myk3> anyone use dvd shrink in ubuntu
[08:39] <nalioth> x[trick] x: http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[08:39] <myk3> ????
[08:39] <nalioth> No1Viking: read above
[08:39] <[Chameleon] > nalioth: equivalents
[08:39] <x[trick] x> thanks nalioth :)
[08:40] <nalioth> [Chameleon] : it didnt work for me
[08:40] <glyn> You mean Ubuntu doesn't come with a kernel?
[08:40] <bob2> of course it does
[08:40] <nalioth> glyn: of course it does
[08:40] <[Chameleon] > nalioth: note the spelling. you mis-spelled it.
[08:40] <bob2> glyn: it doesn't come with kernel source by default, tho
[08:40] <cafuego_> glyn: it wouldn't boot if it didn't, so clearly it does.
[08:40] <bob2> glyn: since end users don't need it
[08:40] <[Chameleon] > bob2: usually they don't
[08:40] <glyn> well what do I do if I need a kernel source?
[08:40] <[Chameleon] > glyn: install the package
[08:40] <cafuego_> glyn: You install it, of course.
[08:41] <bob2> glyn: why do you think you need the kernel source?
[08:41] <nalioth> Chambers-: i privmsg'd the bot and spelled it wrong FOUR times?
[08:41] <bob2> chickboiec: yes, ymessenger is broken, don't use it
[08:41] <cafuego_> bob2: rememebr the captive ntfs issue from earlier today?
[08:41] <chickboiec> @ bob2
[08:41] <som1> is there something diffrent on the mutt ubuntu package?
[08:41] <glyn> I want to compile a kernel
[08:41] <bob2> wtf
[08:41] <cafuego_> som1: different from what?
[08:41] <som1> i cant login to my email
[08:41] <bob2> glyn: you do not need to compile a kernel to use captive ntfs
[08:42] <glyn> I can't figure out how else to get it to work
[08:42] <glyn> it tells me to run install-acquire and I do and it gives me an error and some site said that if you have problems you need to compile a kernel
[08:43] <gowee> hi
[08:44] <xuniluser> HELP: where can i find resources on how to create a disto out of ubuntu containing the apps that i like..
[08:44] <cafuego_> glyn: "Some site" is wrong, then
[08:44] <bob2> xuniluser: you googled and really found nothing?
[08:44] <som1> cafuego, is it using something else for imaps?
[08:44] <cafuego_> glyn: You *may* need to compile a module for the current kernel, but thast's easily done without building the whole kernel.
[08:44] <bob2> xuniluser: launchpad will eventually be useful for that
[08:44] <glyn> How would I compile the module?
[08:44] <holycow> anyone here run mythtv with a pvr250?
[08:45] <cafuego_> som1: You may need the crypto libraries...
[08:45] <som1> oh.
[08:45] <cafuego_> hmm
[08:45] <chickboiec> need help again how can i install online games what are the requiremnts
[08:46] <bob2> chickboiec: "online games"? e.g.?
[08:46] <cafuego_> som1: well, the apckage descriptions claims it supports imaps
[08:46] <som1> chickboiec, graphic acceleration usually
[08:46] <som1> yes it supports imap but it sends the password plain
[08:46] <som1> :-)
[08:46] <som1> imaps*
[08:46] <Madpilot> chickboiec: Enemy Territory plays well, as (I've heard) does America's Army - and they're both free...
[08:46] <cafuego_> som1: Ok, you need the sasl2 libs for cram md5 support
[08:47] <cafuego_> som1: if it uses ssl, it CANNOT send the pass plain; it's an encrypted socket.
[08:47] <Somada141> How do i install from source files (tar.gz,tar.bz2) without having a connection????
[08:47] <cafuego_> som1: ie: the connection is created, secured, and THEN data moves.
[08:47] <bob2> Somada141: what are you trying to install?
[08:47] <Somada141> i want to install gnome commander but i don't have Internet home
[08:48] <Uchiha> does anyone know for sure if ubuntu would detect the modem in my mac mini?
[08:48] <bob2> it's ingnome-commander - File manager for GNOME
[08:48] <bob2> gnome-commander - File manager for GNOME
[08:48] <bob2> bah
[08:48] <Somada141> i want to get the source files here and install them home
[08:48] <bob2> Uchiha: nothing on google?
[08:48] <som1> ok.. never mind ty
[08:48] <TokenBad> how reset inetd in ubuntu?
[08:49] <bob2> TokenBad: I told you already
[08:49] <Uchiha> hmm
[08:49] <cafuego_> TokenBad; /etc/init.d/inetd reload (or restart)
[08:49] <bob2> sudo invoke-rc.d inetd restart
[08:49] <TokenBad> I did that
[08:49] <Uchiha> is that a no?
[08:49] <cafuego_> or 'sudo killall -1 inetd'
[08:49] <TokenBad> but its not working or something
[08:49] <xuniluser> bob2: if a downloaded a .deb file and installed it in ubuntu, will it be the same as using apt-get?
[08:49] <TokenBad> inetd: no process killed
[08:49] <bob2> xuniluser: no
[08:49] <TokenBad> get that if doo the killall
[08:50] <bob2> xuniluser: apt-get would automatically get the dependencies for you
[08:50] <xuniluser> bob2: even if the .deb file is the latest?
[08:50] <No1Viking> Anybody installed Firefox 1.5 beta in Hoary?
[08:50] <bob2> TokenBad: perhaps it's not running then
[08:50] <bob2> No1Viking: yes
[08:50] <TokenBad> how start it then?
[08:50] <bob2> TokenBad: what are you trying to do?
[08:50] <cafuego_> TokenBad: It's not running then. Check /var/log/syslog for errros about config file formats etc
[08:50] <No1Viking> bob2: Is it OK?
[08:50] <marc^> "debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)" < failed while installing base system
[08:50] <bob2> No1Viking: works fine, just don't put it in /usr/bin or anything
[08:51] <bob2> marc^: is the CD ok?  what was the rest of the error?
[08:51] <xuniluser> bob2: that's one of the comments of  my officemates regarding ubuntu. so how can i make my ubuntu updated if i don't have internet connection?
[08:51] <TokenBad> bob2 its for ftp server
[08:51] <xuniluser> bob2: can i do that offline?
[08:51] <bob2> TokenBad: which one?
[08:51] <marc^> it said check var/log/messages for more details
[08:51] <TokenBad> glftpd
[08:51] <bob2> xuniluser: use apt-zip
[08:51] <marc^> but that folder was empty
[08:51] <bob2> marc^: no, it said something else
[08:52] <x[trick] x> im just wondering?? im a windows user.. i just want to know how will i format my  hdd? and how will i start installing ubuntu??
[08:52] <marc^> im pretty sure that was it
[08:52] <xuniluser> bob2: hmmmm ok i'll read first about that... btw what is the difference with that versus apt-get
[08:52] <bob2> x[trick] x: you boot the cd and follow the instructions
[08:53] <bob2> x[trick] x: it gets packages for apt-ge to use locally
[08:53] <Uchiha> does hoary hedgehog use kde or gnome by default?
[08:53] <glyn> how do I check my IP address from the terminal?
[08:53] <after8> ifconfig
[08:53] <bob2> Uchiha: gnome, of course
[08:53] <bob2> glyn: depends
[08:53] <bob2> if you're behind NAT, ifconfig wpon't help
[08:53] <Myrtti> *yawn*
[08:53] <glyn> I'm trying to get a remote connection with my friend
[08:54] <freeza> has anyone upgraded to gnome 2.12 using the breezy repos?
[08:54] <Uchiha> thanks: bob2
[08:54] <x[trick] x> im currently downloading the 386-iso... will this be work after i format?
[08:54] <Uchiha> such a release exists?
[08:54] <bob2> glyn: if you're behind nat, that won't help
[08:54] <nalioth> freeza: you'll need to upgrade to breezy for 2.12
[08:54] <bob2> freeza: partial upgrades are not a good idea unles you really know what you are doing
[08:54] <marc^> ill try downloading again
[08:54] <Uchiha> I hadn't known of a release beyonf 2.10
[08:55] <bob2> marc^: just check the CD itself
[08:55] <bob2> x[trick] x: what sort of computer do you have?
[08:55] <marc^> physically or the files?
[08:55] <Uchiha> bob2: what if I like to use KDE
[08:55] <bob2> marc^: the contents of the CD
[08:55] <bob2> Uchiha: then use kubuntu
[08:55] <x[trick] x> amd 1 gig built in lan, video, sound
[08:55] <bob2> or suse or whatever
[08:55] <Uchiha> ???
[08:55] <bob2> x[trick] x: so, an athlon? i386 is ifne then.
[08:55] <x[trick] x> i have a dsl conection... dont your think i will encounter porblem??
[08:55] <dansfloyd> so kubuntu uses the KDE interface?
[08:55] <nalioth> Uchiha: kde is available
[08:56] <marc^> y
[08:56] <silverton> dansfloyd, yes
[08:56] <Uchiha> ok, I'll look into that
[08:56] <x[trick] x> im using duron
[08:56] <after8> Uchiha> ubuntu has gnome b default, if you want kde and you have the ubuntu CD, you can install the kubuntu-desktop package
[08:56] <bob2> x[trick] x: no
[08:56] <Uchiha> ok
[08:56] <dansfloyd> i like gnome better :)
[08:56] <x[trick] x> what you mean bob??
[08:56] <marc^> bob2: what am i looking for on the cd, 9 folders and 3 files
[08:56] <Uchiha> is there anything like apt-get or portage for ubuntu?
[08:56] <after8> !start a desktop war
[08:56] <ubotu> cde is much better than xfce!
[08:56] <TokenBad> bob2 Its for glftpd
[08:56] <inthenow> how do you change aim colors etc?
[08:57] <bob2> marc^: boot it into expert mode, select "verify cd" or whatever
[08:57] <Uchiha> Yum, possibly?
[08:57] <bob2> x[trick] x: no I do not think you will have problems
[08:57] <bob2> Uchiha: apt-get, of course
[08:57] <bob2> Uchiha: it's based on Debian
[08:57] <Uchiha> oh
[08:57] <x[trick] x> ok...
[08:57] <bob2> TokenBad: I wouldn't bother using that
[08:57] <marc^> im on win atm, cant get it running, but here goes
[08:57] <Uchiha> I like debian!!!
[08:57] <Uchiha> That's even better
[08:57] <Uchiha> I'm getting ubuntu for sure
[08:57] <inthenow> breezy is pretty good once you figure out how to install it
[08:58] <x[trick] x> so i'll just burn the installer on a cd after i download.. then i'll just format my c:\
[08:58] <after8> Uchiha> ubuntu is debian, sort of.... its based on it anyway
[08:58] <Uchiha> is it hard to do or something?
[08:58] <dansfloyd> im still a new to linux... so if i set myself in the sodu group, does that give me all access?
[08:58] <[Chameleon] > inthenow: uhh figure it out? All I had to do was boot the CD and proceed to install.
[08:58] <TokenBad> bob2, what would you suggest then?
[08:58] <bob2> TokenBad: vsftpd
[08:58] <inthenow> [Chameleon] : it has problems
[08:58] <after8> dansfloyd> the first user on install will be a sudo enabled user anyway
[08:58] <bob2> dansfloyd: the first user by default is in a group that gives them full sudo access, yes
[08:58] <[Chameleon] > inthenow: hmm... OK. I'll have to take your word for it.
[08:59] <Uchiha> dansfloyd: you have to be in the sudoers file
[08:59] <dansfloyd> well when i first logged in it kept telling me that i didnt have access to my root folder
[08:59] <inthenow> [Chameleon] : not like any system is perfect. just ran into problems with the partitioning
[08:59] <Uchiha> ok
[08:59] <dansfloyd> i was the first and only user
[08:59] <Uchiha> you can get in ther if you use su.
[09:00] <after8> bob2> breezy & nvidia..... you were right, man ;)   long live "nv"
[09:00] <chickboiec> need help
[09:00] <chickboiec> user@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ sudo dkpg -i ymessenger_1-1.0.4_1_i386.deb
[09:00] <chickboiec> Password:
[09:00] <chickboiec> sudo: dkpg: command not found
[09:00] <chickboiec> user@ubuntu:~/Desktop$
[09:00] <inthenow> what breezy and nv?
[09:00] <inthenow> what about ?
[09:00] <Uchiha> dansfloyd: check the sudoers file.
[09:00] <Uchiha> /etc/sudoers
[09:00] <TokenBad> bob2, can install that through apt-get?
[09:00] <after8> chickboiec> 1. dont paste...   2. dpkg not dkpg
[09:01] <crimsun> TokenBad: yes
[09:01] <bob2> TokenBad: sure
[09:01] <xuniluser> HELP: what is the difference between the three kernels included in the Hoary distro (fox x86)
[09:01] <bob2> Uchiha: you don't need to add people to the sudoers file
[09:01] <chickboiec> ok
[09:01] <inthenow> after8: what about breezy nv?
[09:01] <bob2> xuniluser: just use the default
[09:01] <after8> inthenow> its a bit touchy, breezy with nvidia..... i suspect because the binary drivers complain about the version of gcc used to compile the kernel etc...
[09:01] <dansfloyd> hmmm i dont see the sudoers file?????
[09:02] <after8> dans /etc/sudoers ??
[09:02] <dansfloyd> nevermond
[09:02] <Uchiha> bob2: I didn't know that, thanks for clarifying
[09:02] <dansfloyd> :D
[09:02] <bob2> dansfloyd: you don't need to touch it
[09:02] <Uchiha> ???
[09:02] <crimsun> after8: (that could be worked around by installing gcc-3.4 and gcc-3.4-base)
[09:03] <mushtaq> hi i want to install ubuntu but my cdrom is not work is it possible to install from the iso image on my hard drive ?
[09:03] <Uchiha> I said that because I remembered having to do it for some reason.
[09:03] <mushtaq> any link to the tutorial please ......
[09:03] <bob2> mushtaq: how would you boot the installer in that case?
[09:03] <after8> crimsun> i'm still a bit newb around the edges ;)
[09:03] <mushtaq> floppy
[09:03] <mushtaq> if possible ?
[09:03] <Uchiha> um
[09:03] <dansfloyd> external drive?
[09:03] <dansfloyd> if you can boot from USB
[09:03] <mushtaq> nope dont have poor
[09:03] <chickboiec> i change now!
[09:04] <Uchiha> you can get a floppy boot disk image that will let you boot from the cdrom
[09:04] <after8> mushtaq> i'd buy a new cd drive... or borrow one.
[09:04] <dansfloyd> yeah
[09:04] <aethera> morning everyone
[09:04] <bob2> mushtaq: you can, it's not simple tho
[09:04] <aethera> I am doing a vmware installation
[09:04] <fredforfaen> morning
[09:04] <chickboiec> my friend asking fo my brother for something
[09:04] <mushtaq> after8, you are good person but i need to know if it is possible or no ?
[09:04] <mushtaq> bob2, no probls
[09:04] <TokenBad> bob2, does it allow people to fxp into you?
[09:04] <chickboiec> he said that for DOWN PAYMENT
[09:04] <mushtaq> bob2, any tutorial ?
[09:04] <aethera> just wanted to know why I dont have 2.6.8 kernel source in my repositry
[09:04] <inthenow> i realized how destructive pirating software has been in my life I was stealing windows and everything else but now that im not I dont support it either which is good and i feel much better.
[09:04] <dansfloyd> so... whos seen the Final Fantasy VII movie?? :D
[09:05] <kairu0> openoffice question: is the launch delay in openoffice 2 beta better than openoffice stable?
[09:05] <aethera> dansfloyd: very very cool movie
[09:05] <Uchiha> mushtaq: or download sbootmanager from a slackware mirror.
[09:05] <bob2> TokenBad: I've never met anyone who wanted FXP who wasn't involved in the warez scene
[09:05] <dansfloyd> yeah
[09:05] <Uchiha> it's a floppy image that lets you boot from the cd rom
[09:05] <mushtaq> Uchiha, what is that ?
[09:05] <bob2> aethera: because 2.6.8 is humourlys old
[09:05] <chickboiec> do you know the skyhigh
[09:05] <icc6> any body care to chat
[09:05] <aethera> bob2: but should you still not have it in the repositry?
[09:05] <mushtaq> Uchiha, I dont have cdrom
[09:05] <aethera> icc6: hello
[09:05] <after8> aethera> you looking for the kernel-source package????
[09:06] <jack-> bob2: fxp is useful, even for people who dont deal with warez
[09:06] <chickboiec> IM SASUKE!!
[09:06] <Uchiha> oh
[09:06] <bob2> aethera: why would you want to have old kernels there?
[09:06] <fredforfaen> hi icc6
[09:06] <bob2> jack-: what for?
[09:06] <after8> aethera> try linux-source
[09:06] <dansfloyd> 1 more question... how do i install skype?
[09:06] <aethera> its a developer machine
[09:06] <Uchiha> I thought you said you had one just that it didn't work
[09:06] <dansfloyd> like i said... im a linux newb
[09:06] <mushtaq> Uchiha, i need to boot from floppy and use iso is it possible ?
[09:06] <inthenow> now i support linux...and not only am i adding to things the way they should be, im no longer a theif.
[09:06] <aethera> dansfloyd: the guide tells you
[09:06] <after8> dansfloyd> go to their site and get the repository
[09:06] <jack-> example: for sending stuff to my mac without touching it, with a client running on my ubuntu pc
[09:06] <chickboiec> i dont know do you teach me how?
[09:06] <chickboiec> ok
[09:06] <chickboiec> then what
[09:06] <Uchiha> mushtaq: no
[09:06] <bob2> jack-: then use rsync and ssh
[09:07] <mushtaq> Uchiha, ok
[09:07] <chickboiec> that is all that i do to do that thing
[09:07] <bob2> jack-: I can think of no situation where FXP is the best solution
[09:07] <aethera> dansfloyd: ubuntuguide.org
[09:07] <jack-> too complicated. and the source is a ftpd
[09:07] <Uchiha> mushtaq: install it on a friends computer using one of your hard drive...
[09:07] <aethera> very nice stuff on there to install
[09:07] <Uchiha> then
[09:07] <jack-> so fxp is the most comfortable solution
[09:07] <aethera> anyone ripped gnome out of ubuntu?
[09:07] <Uchiha> mushtaq: make an image of the hard drive
[09:07] <dansfloyd> do i get the debian package?
[09:07] <chickboiec> just go on my internet cafe to see it!
[09:07] <bob2> aethera: yes, it's simple
[09:07] <after8> dansfloyd> yes. add the rep to your sources.list, update and install
[09:07] <mushtaq> Uchiha, yes taht is what i am asking
[09:07] <Uchiha> mushtaq: copy the image from that hard drive onto the hard drive in your system
[09:07] <chickboiec> o.O
[09:08] <chickboiec> ^_^
[09:08] <aethera> bob2: I know it might be simple
[09:08] <Uchiha> mushtaq: and you're done
[09:08] <bob2> aethera: remove libgtk2.0
[09:08] <mushtaq> Uchiha, once i copy or download the image then ? howto run that
[09:08] <chickboiec> it isnt!!
[09:08] <bob2> aethera: but that's probably not what you want, so you need to define "remove gnome" more strictly
[09:08] <mushtaq> Uchiha, i mean the cd image i copied on the hard drive how to run that
[09:09] <chickboiec> icc6 quit
[09:09] <chickboiec> why?
[09:09] <Uchiha> mushtaq: you can't
[09:09] <Uchiha> mushtaq: it has to be booted
[09:09] <mushtaq> i can boot from debian floppy
[09:09] <mushtaq> Uchiha, i can boot from debian floppy
[09:09] <Uchiha> mushtaq: the cd contains a linux system of its own that installs the operating system
[09:09] <aethera> bob2: can I see a screen shot of your desktop?
[09:09] <dreumah> hello i was wondering how i can add programs to the menu
[09:09] <chickboiec> it might be so slow
[09:09] <dreumah> in gnome
[09:10] <Uchiha> mushtaq: yes
[09:10] <deFrysk> chickboiec, ots dpkg not dkpg
[09:10] <Uchiha> mushtaq: but then you couldn't run the installer on the iso
[09:10] <deFrysk> its*
[09:10] <mushtaq> Uchiha, i boot from the debian floppy and then i can see the image what next to do ?
[09:10] <bob2> aethera: it's the default gnome with 10 desktops of xterms, one of firefox and one of emacs
[09:10] <mushtaq> Uchiha,  how to run that ?
[09:10] <bob2> aethera: and a lot less brown
[09:10] <dreumah> hello i was wondering how i can add programs to the menu
[09:10] <Uchiha> mushtaq: you can't run an iso
[09:11] <mushtaq> Uchiha, then what i need to run ?
[09:11] <Uchiha> mushtaq: it has to be burnt to a cd and booted
[09:11] <deFrysk> dreumah, get smeg
[09:11] <dreumah> from synaptics
[09:11] <inthenow> is ubuntu fully sympatico dsl capable?
[09:11] <mushtaq> Uchiha, sigh......
[09:11] <deFrysk> dreumah, in hoary right ?
[09:11] <chickboiec> ???
[09:11] <dreumah> yeah
[09:11] <chickboiec> hack//sign
[09:11] <deFrysk> !tell dreumah about smeg
[09:11] <mushtaq> Uchiha, any other option to run debian ?
[09:11] <mushtaq> Uchiha,  i mean ubuntu
[09:12] <user_> *** i need help!!! ***
[09:12] <chickboiec> why?
[09:12] <mushtaq> Uchiha, what are the option which can be used to install
[09:12] <dreumah> i looked for it in the package manager but its not there
[09:12] <Uchiha> mushtaq: not that I know of, I'm new to ubuntu
[09:12] <chickboiec> nasan
[09:12] <TokenBad> bob2 how restart vsftpd after editing conf file?
[09:12] <user_> *** what is the default admin account for ubuntu ***
[09:12] <deFrysk> dreumah, you got a message from obuto telling you where to look
[09:12] <mushtaq> Uchiha, oh ok
[09:12] <Uchiha> mushtaq: nothing that I know of, I'm new to ubuntu
[09:12] <mushtaq> thanks for telling
[09:12] <deFrysk> ubotu*
[09:12] <bob2> TokenBad: if it runs from inetd, you don't need to restart it
[09:13] <Uchiha> mushtaq: besides cd
[09:13] <TokenBad> think it was set to run standalone by defualt
[09:13] <dreumah> how do i install it though?
[09:13] <user_> *** HELP : what is the default Admin account for Ubuntu ***
[09:13] <user_> *** HELP : what is the default Admin account for Ubuntu ***
[09:13] <user_> *** HELP : what is the default Admin account for Ubuntu ***
[09:13] <user_> *** HELP : what is the default Admin account for Ubuntu ***
[09:13] <user_> *** HELP : what is the default Admin account for Ubuntu ***
[09:13] <user_> *** HELP : what is the default Admin account for Ubuntu ***
[09:13] <aethera> ban please?
[09:13] <bob2> user_: you will be banned if you ever do that again
[09:13] <fredforfaen> dont spam user_ !
[09:13] <bob2> and it will not be lifted
[09:14] <user_> sorry
[09:14] <aethera> bob2: so whats your day job?
[09:14] <user_> just trying to take attention...
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[09:14] <deFrysk> user_, you are just trying to get banned
[09:14] <aethera> lol
[09:14] <user_> :(
[09:14] <aethera> my html tags for irssi is not working
[09:14] <bob2> aethera: nothing
[09:14] <silverton> user_, people will just ignore you when you do that :P
[09:14] <pluffsy> hi
[09:14] <bob2> user_: no, you're being utterly obnoxious
[09:14] <user_> so anyone, do you know?
[09:14] <rob^> !sudo
[09:14] <TokenBad> bob2, think its set by defualt to be standalone
[09:14] <ubotu> I heard sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[09:14] <bob2> user_: that is never acceptable, anyway
[09:14] <silverton> user_, there is no default pass for root, you do everything by sudo
[09:15] <bob2> user_: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:15] <bob2> user_: what's worse is that the installer explained EXACTLY how to do this, and it's in the FAQ
[09:15] <deFrysk> that enough attention for user_ I think for today
[09:15] <chickboiec> what is lack of license warranty
[09:15] <pluffsy> I have a hardware dvd decoder. do you think there is any chance that will work under ubuntu? It was visible in that hardware overview gui if that says anything.
[09:15] <aethera> whats a nice wallpaper changer for linux?
[09:15] <user_> sorry, im new to linux thing
[09:15] <aethera> like winwall
[09:15] <user_> so dummy...
[09:16] <chickboiec> licence for copyright licence and lack of warranty (GNU GPL) [*] .
[09:16] <pluffsy> because the 400Mhz G3 cpu isn't enough for realtime dvd decoding it seems.'
[09:16] <chickboiec> what does it mean?
[09:16] <bob2> user_: this is not about being new, this is about being obnoxious
[09:16] <deFrysk> user_, being new does not mean you can get away with everything
[09:16] <user_> can a non-admin account do thing configuration?
[09:16] <bob2> chickboiec: it means you get no warranty with GPL'd software
[09:16] <chickboiec> defrysk wht does dis mean
[09:16] <chickboiec> ah ic
[09:16] <chickboiec> do i have 2pay
[09:16] <bob2> chickboiec: for GPL software? very rarely.
[09:16] <chickboiec> ah ic
[09:17] <chickboiec> where do i get 1?
[09:17] <chickboiec> its for yahoomessenger
[09:17] <chickboiec> why i cannot install it T_T
[09:17] <xuniluser> How do i mount a filesystem "OnTrackDM6"?
[09:17] <user_> im using the account w/c was created frfom installing ubuntu
[09:18] <dreumah> how do i instal smeg
[09:18] <dreumah> ??
[09:18] <bob2> chickboiec: it's crap, ignore it
[09:18] <bob2> chickboiec: just use gaim
[09:18] <deFrysk> chickboiec, you did sudo dkpg ist sudo dpkg
[09:18] <bob2> dreumah: /msg ubotu smeg
[09:18] <bob2> user_: you're being too vague
[09:19] <bob2> user_: tell us exactly what you're trying to do
[09:19] <pluffsy> bob2: do you have any idea if hardware dvd decoders usually are supported in linux or rarely? (btw what is that gui app called that displays a hardware overview, I would like to install it)
[09:19] <after8> user_> read what sudo is for.
[09:19] <bob2> xuniluser: that sounds like some sort of crappy software RAID
[09:19] <bob2> pluffsy: don't think they are, but decoding mpeg-2 is not *that* cpu-intensive
[09:19] <dreumah> i have no response, i take it its not a bot
[09:19] <bob2> aethera: I am available for rent, tho
[09:19] <aethera> bob2: you have anything against software raid?
[09:19] <deFrysk> !smeg
[09:19] <ubotu> smeg is probably a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[09:19] <bob2> dreumah: it is
[09:19] <deFrysk> got that dreumah ?
[09:19] <oceandead> argh
[09:19] <aethera> bob2: why did you say that?
[09:20] <dreumah> its not replying
[09:20] <bob2> aethera: no, software raid is fine; I have something against shitty promise and sil "hardware" raid that require kernel drivers
[09:20] <dreumah>  /msg ubotu smeg
[09:20] <pluffsy> bob2: it does skip a lot here. don't know if I can configure it better to get it smoother? (400MHz G3, 192MB RAM. any chance?)
[09:20] <rob^> that smeg entry is rong
[09:20] <inthenow> when you use a major isp email account then cancel with them...Can someone else inherit your email address and get your mail?
[09:20] <rob^> +w
[09:20] <bob2> pluffsy: ah, using xv is all I can think of, sorry
[09:20] <ompaul> I just booted User interaction required!
[09:20] <ompaul> A new version of the Linux kernel has just been installed. yada yada = please reboot - surely this be a bug?
[09:20] <bob2> inthenow: sure, eventually they'll let someone else have it
[09:20] <after8> inthenow> depends if it is a good isp or not...
[09:21] <pluffsy> bob2: xvvlc? or do you mean skipping gnome for something lighter?
[09:21] <after8> ompaul> breezy?
[09:21] <dreumah> yes yes that i have,  but now i dont know... i downloaded the package but dont know what to do now
[09:21] <ompaul> aye
[09:21] <aethera> bob2: why did you say you are not for rent
[09:21] <oceandead> i have same specs but my problem is always wmv's (surprise) - audio and vid dont always sync
[09:21] <ompaul> after8, yeap
[09:21] <after8> and gnome?
[09:21] <oceandead> mpg fine though
[09:21] <after8> yeah it did that for me too..... after i rebOOted
[09:21] <bob2> pluffsy: using Xvideo for output
[09:22] <after8> oceandead> use mencoder :)
[09:22] <bob2> aethera: I said I am for rent, in reference to you asking what I did
[09:22] <after8> oceandead> i converted muchas divx with it to avi/mp3
[09:22] <aethera> bob2: can I pm?
[09:22] <bob2> aethera: ok
[09:22] <jack-> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:22] <jack->   smeg: Depends: python-xdg (>= 0.14) but 0.9-1 is to be installed
[09:22] <jack-> but!
[09:22] <bob2> yay backports
[09:23] <bob2> it's your birthday
[09:23] <mushtaq> what are the different ways to install debian ?is it possible to install via hard drive
[09:23] <after8> lol
[09:23] <jack-> python-xdg is already the newest version.
[09:23] <nalioth> jack-: use the install script on the smeg homepage
[09:23] <jack-> and now? :<
[09:23] <oceandead> after8 thanks for the tip - i will definitely do that for ahem "long" wmvs - unfortunately shorter clips wouldnt be worth the effort?
[09:23] <chickboiec> libgdk-pixbuf2  how 2 install dis?
[09:23] <mushtaq> what are the different ways to install ubuntu ?is it possible to install via hard drive
[09:23] <pluffsy> bob2: you mean the default in Multimedia Systems Selector, Output "XWindows (X11/XShm/Xv)"
[09:23] <dreumah> i must be a fool, 3 months away from linux and i have forgotten everything
[09:23] <jack-> nalioth: ok, but i'd love to keep my apt shit in sync..
[09:23] <mushtaq> nalioth, i need help
[09:23] <nalioth> jack-: i'm sorry i dont quite understand
[09:24] <nalioth> mushtaq: ask me something
[09:24] <mushtaq> i want to know how to install ubuntu via image
[09:24] <after8> dreumah> apt-get install acquired-knowledge :D
[09:24] <ompaul> why is this "sudo cat >> /etc/apt/sources.list" gives "bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied [I last asked this 7 hours ago :)] 
[09:24] <jack-> nalioth: i wonder how i could get apt to solve that version mismatch
[09:24] <mushtaq> nalioth, via cd image on the hard drive
[09:24] <nalioth> jack-: are you using breezy or hoary?
[09:24] <jack-> hoary
[09:24] <aeolist> does anybody know how to edit the search engine menu in firefox, in order to remove some of the engines?
[09:24] <bob2> pluffsy: well, it's program specific
[09:25] <shey_16> hi
[09:25] <nalioth> mushtaq: you'll need to learn how to make a bootable medium (usb memory stick, floppy, or cdrom)
[09:25] <nalioth> mushtaq: to load a minimal kernal, mount your image and go from there
[09:25] <mushtaq> nalioth, if i have the bootable floppy then ?
[09:25] <dreumah> how do i install a deb package again?
[09:25] <shey_16> hi
[09:25] <shey_16> ho
[09:25] <mushtaq> nalioth, where is the minimum kernel ?
[09:25] <dreumah> dkpg something right
[09:26] <nalioth> dreumah: dpkg -i file.deb
[09:26] <nalioth> mushtaq: i am not privy to exactly how to do it.  i DO know it can be done.  Educate yourself
[09:26] <ompaul> dreumah, before you do that - where did you get the file, if it was a debian repo - maybe it is not for your system
[09:26] <Gavrila> hi there has anyone got problems with yesterday xorg update?
[09:26] <mushtaq> nalioth, ok thanks takecare ;)
[09:27] <oceandead> lots of updates recently - gettin prepared for the upgrade?
[09:27] <shey_16> hiu
[09:27] <ompaul> Gavrila, b/h - breezy here and no problems
[09:27] <dreumah> i got it from the site the bot gave me
[09:27] <oceandead> havent restarted x yet
[09:27] <jack-> sup shey_16
[09:27] <oceandead> but no
[09:27] <pluffsy> bob2: alright... btw you don't know the name of the application that shows what kind of hardware you have? I had to make a server install so I don't have it. I thought I could google for the name of the dvd encoder, just to see if I find anything
[09:27] <oceandead> nothing yet
[09:27] <ompaul> oceandead, no, they are not there for the upgrade - they are there because of various issues
[09:28] <shey_16> hi
[09:28] <jack-> shey_16: sup
[09:28] <Kromonos> hi
[09:28] <jack-> do you just love saying hi and ho and stuff?
[09:28] <bob2> pluffsy: lspci will show you what pci cards you have, but that's not very helpful
[09:28] <Gavrila> ompaul, since yesterday my laptop in X seems really blurry... the whole image
[09:28] <ompaul> oceandead, providing you are talking hoary, if breezy its the 'last call to fix problems'
[09:28] <puskom_cari> i can't acces my floppy disk help me pls..... how can it happen
[09:29] <ompaul> Gavrila, which is it hoary, breezy?
[09:29] <Gavrila> ompaul,  yes breezy
[09:29] <after8> puskom_cari> have you tried sudo mount /media/floppy ?
[09:29] <pluffsy> bob2: it was a gnome gui application that like showed my usb ports, harddrives, etc.
[09:29] <dreumah> ok
[09:29] <ompaul> Gavrila, well there are new files since 10 hours ago
[09:29] <oceandead> im excited for release - cant wait for it -up grade didnt go so good but colony 3 fresh install went well
[09:29] <ompaul> Gavrila, well there are new files since 8 hours ago sorry
[09:29] <Gavrila> ompaul, yes I'm referring to them
[09:30] <bob2> pluffsy: device manager, I guess
[09:30] <dreumah> it checked dependancies but the python-xdg does  not comply
[09:30] <bob2> I don't think it shows any useful information you can't get elsewhere, tho
[09:30] <Starrysky> I seem to have a problem extract .rar files. I already checked ubuntu.rog forum ... but even installing "unp" app didn't solve the problem, for as it seem unp runs the unrar command, which for some reason way beyond me doesn't do jack. Here's the output i get:
[09:30] <Starrysky> unrar: invalid archive 'x': Bad address
[09:30] <Starrysky> Usage: unrar [OPTION...]  ARCHIVE [FILE...]  [DESTINATION] 
[09:30] <Starrysky> Try `unrar --help' or `unrar --usage' for more information.
[09:30] <Starrysky> CKY-An_Answer_Can_Be_Found-(Retail)-2005.part08.rar - unknown extension, checking with "file"
[09:31] <oceandead> ack whats with the paste
[09:31] <kemik> Starrysky:  you need unrar-nonfree
[09:31] <oceandead> #flood
[09:31] <pluffsy> bob2: I just wanted it to see the name of the dvd encoder, I know it's there
[09:31] <bob2> Starrysky: that's kinda useless without showing us the command line you ran
[09:31] <Starrysky> sorry for the flood then
[09:31] <pluffsy> bob2: and thanks :)
[09:31] <bob2> pluffsy: lspci, then
[09:31] <ompaul> Gavrila, have you (A) this sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (B) got a nvidia or some such?
[09:31] <Starrysky> in that case : unp .rar archieve
[09:31] <kemik> Starrysky:  or try the correct switch.. "unrar e package.rar"
[09:31] <bob2> Starrysky: that's completely wrong
[09:31] <Starrysky> normally unrar *.rar ./ or whatever
[09:32] <bob2> unrar x blah.rar
[09:32] <Gavrila> ompaul,  no I've got ati, but why should I reconfigure the package? it used to work fine
[09:32] <Red_Bullet> when i log on in my proofile its tell you have new mail how to read mail
[09:32] <oceandead> mailx
[09:32] <bob2> Red_Bullet: "mutt"
[09:32] <shey_16> hgi
[09:33] <ompaul> Gavrila, my thinking is simply rule that out, blurry screens usually have to do with refresh rates and cards
[09:33] <Starrysky> bob2 i believe you are mistaken, besides unp surely knows how to run the command better then you (unrar already extrards by default without specyfing x)
[09:33] <Gavrila>  BTW killink X now results in not being able to restart gdm service and moreoover when X fails then to get up, my machine get  stuck in a unresponsive ncurses dialog
[09:33] <dreumah> it checked dependancies but the python-xdg does  not comply
[09:33] <Gavrila> ompaul,  yes but I didn't touch the xorg.conf neither the card
[09:34] <dreumah> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smeg:
[09:34] <dreumah>  smeg depends on python-xdg (>= 0.14); however:
[09:34] <dreumah>   Version of python-xdg on system is 0.9-1.
[09:34] <dreumah> dpkg: error processing smeg (--install):
[09:34] <dreumah>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[09:34] <dreumah> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:34] <dreumah>  smeg
[09:34] <Red_Bullet> and how can i send massage
[09:34] <dreumah> this is my error
[09:34] <puskom_cari> no, i haven't but when i use nautilus there's 3 item disk 1, cd rom and system file,... is disk 1 same as floopy disk ?
[09:34] <Gavrila> after a fresh reboot obvously X starts fine
[09:34] <shey_16> hi
[09:34] <shey_16> hi
[09:34] <Starrysky> thge results were the same kemik. I am using and AMD64 and apparently there were some problems in this architecture
[09:34] <bob2> dreumah: please don't poaste things in here
[09:34] <ompaul> dreumah, no your error was pasting in the channel - paste.ubuntulinux.nl is what you do there copy that url and keep it :)
[09:35] <dreumah> huh?
[09:35] <bob2> and the problem is simple, get a more recent python-xdg
[09:35] <bob2> which will break other things
[09:35] <oceandead> paste error message @ paste.ubuntulinux.nl  - not in here
[09:35] <bob2> yay backports
[09:35] <chickboiec> E: Couldn't find package libglibl.2
[09:35] <shey_16> hi
[09:35] <chickboiec> how to install the package
[09:35] <ompaul> Gavrila, well I will restart X here because I have new packages for it (a set since my ~1am  it now being 8:35 local - hope to talk in a mo
[09:35] <bob2> chickboiec: spell it correctly
[09:35] <dreumah> oh ok
[09:35] <bob2> chickboiec: also, ymessenger is not our problem
[09:36] <dreumah> sorry i didnt know about that
[09:36] <chickboiec> ok
[09:36] <bob2> chickboiec: why are you not using gaim?
[09:36] <chickboiec> how to install wine
[09:36] <dreumah> still i dont know what to do with the dependency problem
[09:36] <chickboiec> im already using it
[09:36] <shivy> hya
[09:36] <bob2> chickboiec: why do you want wine?
[09:36] <bob2> chickboiec: to run yahoo?
[09:36] <chickboiec> yeah
[09:36] <bob2> dreumah: then ignore it and don't use smeg
[09:36] <puskom_cari> after8 : no, i haven't but when i use nautilus there's 3 item disk 1, cd rom and system file,... is disk 1 same as floopy disk ?
[09:37] <oceandead> ah
[09:37] <user_> bob2: sir, i just did what it said and *really*, so-stupid-that-i-get, it wont make one.
[09:37] <oceandead> !gaim
[09:37] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[09:37] <shey_16> hi
[09:37] <shivy> I got a question, Im trying to VNCSERVER from a XP machine to my Ubuntu box ....but I want my XFCE4 desktop and NOT GNOME ....please help cause all the howto's refer to files in my home directory that doesnt exist (the xsession file)
[09:37] <dreumah> then how will i add to the menu?
[09:37] <Starrysky> E: Couldn't find package unrar-unfree
[09:37] <bob2> user_: "wont make one" what?
[09:37] <aftertaf> puskom_cari> couldnt tell you for sure.... try the mount cxommand i gave you then look in nautilus see wat you have
[09:38] <user_> admin account?
[09:38] <bob2> shivy: so make it...
[09:38] <sly> thats a point, i think i might log into xfce, not done that in a while =D
[09:38] <ompaul> Gavrila, I would rebuild X as in go through the whole X setup regardless, you don't know what got altered in that shake up
[09:38] <bob2> Starrysky: it's in multiverse and may or may not exist for amd64
[09:38] <puskom_cari> how to install wine?
[09:38] <Gavrila> ok changing the driverfrom fglrx to ati seems to solve the issue Omarkj
[09:38] <Gavrila> ompaul,
[09:38] <ompaul> Gavrila, saw that
[09:38] <aftertaf> user_> the first account you created on install , when combined with sudo, IS an admin account (more or less)
[09:38] <Gavrila> so it's a fglrx new buildd problem
[09:39] <user_> oh, thats why... (stupid me)
[09:39] <xuniluser> shivy: google xsession
[09:39] <puskom_cari> aftertaf : thanks alot
[09:40] <pluffsy> bob2: are there some place I could go to check if there is possible to get support for the cinemaster dvd decoder? google didn't give much, damn I really wanted to watch dvd:s :(
[09:41] <bob2> if google doesn't know, I'd be surprised if it was possible
[09:41] <Starrysky> bob2 ... that's what i'm afraid of ... it's not for amd64, as my sources are alreadt using those commented servers... well guess i'll just have to run a samba server, and have another pc in windows uncompile those files, wich is sad really.
[09:42] <ompaul> !tell pluffsy about restricted
[09:42] <bob2> yay for proprietary software
[09:42] <aftertaf> lol
[09:42] <oceandead> hahaha
[09:42] <pluffsy> bob2: how much hardware do you think I need to get dvd in real time? does more ram do any good?
[09:43] <ColonelKernel> photoshop for linux?
[09:43] <bob2> pluffsy: ram's unlikely to help, maybe a p3-600 sorta speed?
[09:43] <aftertaf> ColonelKernel> gimp
[09:43] <bob2> chickboiec: www.codeweavers.com
[09:43] <pluffsy> ompaul: I know about restricted, but I've installed what I found there and I guess there are no binary drivers since I'm on a G3 (ppc750 or whatever)
[09:43] <ColonelKernel> photoshop > gimp
[09:43] <user_> *** hey bob2 and aftertaf THANKS!!!: i just did it! ***
[09:44] <[Spooky] > anyone know if the am64 port for libdvdcss2 is coming soon ?
[09:44] <ompaul> ahh
[09:44] <fek> moin
[09:44] <pluffsy> bob2: darn, guess that's a bit to much for a 400MHz G3, even if it produces a little more per cycle :/
[09:45] <user_> *** somehow UBUNTU was present here (i thought it would all be just *HEY, HELLO?*) ***
[09:45] <user_> bye *bob2* and *aftertaf*
[09:46] <ml267> I just changed the video card in my ubuntu machine, and Xorg doesn't start up properly anymore.  I looked at the config file, and sure enough, it looks like I need to reconfigure it.  What's the best way to do that?
[09:46] <aftertaf> bob2> what a curious person.... :D
[09:46] <ccfiel> hello
[09:47] <oceandead> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:47] <aftertaf> ml267> and choose the right driver ...
[09:47] <ccfiel> hello
[09:47] <sly> ml268, maybe booting into the live cd ?
[09:47] <ms_nursing> hi
[09:47] <ccfiel> where does all the .deb can be found?
[09:47] <Ender78> http://www.contemporaryinsanity.org
[09:47] <sly> unkles u like doing it vvia the line :)
[09:48] <_lucian> hello world
[09:48] <ml267> oceandead: i didn't know if dpkg-reconfigure would bypass some ubuntu specific stuff?
[09:48] <aftertaf> ccfiel> what do you mean?  locally, or on internet?
[09:48] <conner> I know there is someone here that could tell me the easiest way to install 8mb NVidia TNT2 driver ...  on this COMpaq 5WV270 machine.  I am not all that firmilar with most of lingo, I am a bit confused
[09:48] <x[trick] x> is there a bundled office for kubuntu??
[09:48] <ompaul> !tell conner about nvidia
[09:48] <ompaul> x[trick] x, what is openoffice not there?
[09:49] <ml267> I thought there might be some magic script that's ubuntu specific that I should run to update the video card settings
[09:49] <ccfiel> aftertaf: locally i have finish install a deb file and i want it to be transfer to other pc and install it. i dont want to download it again from the intenet.
[09:49] <aftertaf> ml267> dpkg ;)
[09:49] <ml267> aftertaf: ok, I'll try the ol-faithful
[09:49] <aftertaf> ccfiel> a .deb you got with apt-get? might not work.....
[09:50] <ccfiel> aftertaf: why?
[09:50] <aftertaf> ccfiel> but look around in /var/cache/apt/archive
[09:50] <ccfiel> aftertaf: why? so you mean i have to download again if i want to install it to other comp?
[09:50] <aftertaf> ccfiel> dependencies..... is why
[09:50] <aftertaf> if no pb with dependencies, youll find it there....
[09:50] <ccfiel> aftertaf: ok. ill just try my luck.. i have to install to 20 more computers :(
[09:51] <aftertaf> ccfiel> what package is it?
[09:51] <ccfiel> aftertaf: java runtime and flash player for mozilla
[09:52] <ompaul> ahh ccfiel you need to look at restricted
[09:52] <ompaul> !tell ccfiel about restricted
[09:52] <ccfiel> ampaul: restricted? what is that?
[09:53] <ompaul> ccfiel, ubotu the channel bot sent you a url to explain it better than I could
[09:53] <ml267> after i reconfigure xserver, how do i restart the normal gdm?
[09:54] <aftertaf> ml267>  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:54] <ml267> aftertaf: i looked in my /etc/rc2.d and i didn't see gdm in it.
[09:54] <ml267> aftertaf: how does ubuntu usually start it?
[09:55] <aftertaf> init.d.....
[09:55] <aftertaf> does for kdm anyway.....
[09:55] <ml267> aftertaf: my bad, it IS there.
[09:55] <aftertaf> try in rcS.d.... but think you should run the /etc thing... more 'correct' ;)
[09:55] <aethera> anyone installed vmware here?
[09:56] <ml267> aftertaf: it's not starting though.. :(
[09:56] <chavo> aethera, I installed 5.5 beta
[09:56] <Sly> aethera........................ i have the older 4.5.2 installed
[09:56] <aethera> I have a problem anyone I can pm for help quick
[09:57] <aftertaf> ml267> is there an error message?
[09:57] <ml267> aftertaf: gdm didn't give any kind of useful msg
[09:58] <wingman920> hello, im a newbie.just downloaded ubuntu 5.04 iso and burned it on nero as bootable disc. when i booted from the cd-rom...[DRDOS]  ran and a:....how will i install ubuntu?..please help
[09:58] <aftertaf> wingman920> normally it gives you step by step instructions.....   you type linux ;)
[09:59] <oceandead> check F2 for some options if none desired you can just hit enter
[09:59] <wingman920> well i ran like windows bootable diskette..loaded drivers and then stopped at [DRDOS] a:
[09:59] <aethera> any ideas why vmware install is failing cause it can not find a dir?
[09:59] <wingman920> whats next? or id i burned the iso wrong?
[09:59] <aethera> The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is an existing directory, but it does not
[09:59] <aethera> contain at least one of these directories "linux", "asm", "net" as expected.
[10:00] <oceandead> in nero - file > burn image > browse to and select iso you dled
[10:00] <oceandead> go into bios make sure to boot from cd first
[10:00] <oceandead> boot from te cd you burned > press enter > follow prompts
[10:01] <aethera> guys?
[10:01] <_chris_> how do I create a tar.gz file?
[10:01] <aftertaf> oceandead> nicely seen dude....    the image not burned as a n image but as a file on a cdrom...
[10:01] <_chris_> tar <what options here?>
[10:01] <oceandead> pretty common
[10:01] <wingman920> maybe i burned it wrong coz i chose the "create bootable disc" option....
[10:01] <ompaul> aethera, no, but if someone does give them a chance to answer
[10:01] <oceandead> yep
[10:02] <aethera> ompaul:
[10:02] <freeza> how do you exactly install a 32bit app in 64bit ubuntu?
[10:03] <aethera> freeza: same as always
[10:03] <freeza> i cant
[10:03] <Kromonos> how can I backup a completely partition into an iso file?
[10:03] <aethera> VMware Workstation 5.0.0 build-13124
[10:04] <freeza> when i do dpkg -i i get incompatible
[10:04] <ompaul> aethera, two things to note, who ever helps is a volunteer, second if no answer now ask again politely in about15/20 mins when they may be looking at their screens again
[10:04] <wingman920> does online games like ragnarok, MU, and gunboud run on ubunto?
[10:06] <wingman920> does online games like ragnarok, MU, and gunboud run on ubunto?
[10:07] <Ashen> ragnarok works in wine, gunbound doesn't
[10:07] <Ashen> I dunno what MU is
[10:07] <marc^> installing the ubuntu base system....
[10:07] <Ashen> wow works
[10:07] <Ashen> as does ultima...
[10:07] <marc^> the debootstrap program exited with an error (return value 1)
[10:07] <marc^> check var/log/messages or virtual console 3 for the details
[10:08] <marc^> /var/log/messages is empty
[10:08] <ompaul> freeza, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats you can search that for amd64 it may help, sorry I know very little about 64bit
[10:08] <freeza> ok thanks
[10:08] <Scrawny1> when's breezy comming out in the final relese?
[10:09] <thoreauputic> october 13
[10:09] <Ashen> marc, I had problems similar to that when my iso was corrupted... check your downloads' md5
[10:09] <Scrawny1> thank-you :)
[10:09] <Scrawny1> now next question
[10:09] <freeza> i wonder
[10:09] <ompaul> Kromonos, I would first create a tarball them use k3b / nautilus / or mkisofs -o my.iso  my.tar .. never did it with a directory but it may be achieveable I don't see why not
[10:09] <Scrawny1> will it be easy to upgrade from 5.04?
[10:09] <marc^> i ran the cd verify thing in the install thing
[10:09] <marc^> said it was fine
[10:09] <freeza> when breezy comes out will it be better to just do a dist-upgrade or just reinstall?
[10:10] <Ashen> anyone know why the eclipse I installed from the repo doesn't like to download its own feature upgrades?
[10:10] <thoreauputic> freeza: diat-upgrade
[10:10] <Ashen> freeza... I personally like reinstall (because its nice and fresh) but dist-upgrade will do it for you.
[10:10] <Ashen> either way it should work out of the box.
[10:10] <Kromonos> ompaul: what's about dd?
[10:11] <marc^> shipit is closed
[10:11] <freeza> just wondering cuz i finally got my hoary running exactly like i want it
[10:11] <ompaul> freeza, if you reinstall don't forget to back up your home directory first
[10:11] <marc^> i downloaded the ISO and burnt it
[10:11] <Scrawny1> I'm not upgrading till final comes out :)
[10:11] <dazvid> ditto ^
[10:11] <oceandead> hehehe
[10:11] <Ashen> I got breezy running like my hoary in about an hour today...
[10:11] <ompaul> Kromonos, never did it
[10:11] <Ashen> there are a couple of quirks... but its not that hard once you know what you want :)
[10:11] <Kromonos> hmm :(
[10:12] <thoreauputic> freeza: if you dist-upgrade make sure you have the ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop packages installed first
[10:12] <freeza> well i just upgraded to breezy kernel in hoary and it fixed a lot of my issues
[10:12] <marc^> i386 = windows like system
[10:12] <marc^> ?
[10:12] <ompaul> Kromonos, dd from a disk to create an iso on machine, however you would have to pipe the output through cdrecord and that might me messy
[10:12] <freeza> especially my dma
[10:12] <marc^> did i download the right one?
[10:12] <freeza> i386 is just architecture
[10:12] <Kromonos> marc^: never compare linux and windows systems ;)
[10:12] <freeza> just means its for 32bit systems
[10:13] <marc^> ok, thats clearer
[10:13] <ompaul> marc^, it means that it is an intel/amd machine
[10:13] <oceandead> i tried upgrade to colony 3 ~month ago, it was...interesting ;)
[10:13] <pajama> can I use thes eimages to install Breezy with the latest ISO? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/
[10:13] <thoreauputic> marc^: i386 has nothing to do with windows :)
[10:13] <marc^> < newcomer to this sort of thing
[10:13] <Kromonos> ompaul: I don't want to burn the files on cd. I just want to backup them over LAN onto another PC
[10:13] <marc^> (noob)
[10:13] <pajama> I need to do a netinstall
[10:13] <Scrawny1> now guys I have a question
[10:13] <shivy> no doesnt work btw ..put the xsession in my ~/home/user/.vnc
[10:13] <Scrawny1> sometimes i can't close programs in ubuntu
[10:13] <shivy> But still no XFCE4
[10:14] <shivy> I hate gnome its so ugly
[10:14] <Scrawny1> and I can't get into x to kill the pid
[10:14] <freeza> does anyone here use amd64 hoary? i got a question
[10:14] <oceandead> ugly?
[10:14] <Scholar_Gypsy> hi, i am about to reinstall Ubuntu. But I have one question: can I back up my apt repository so that I dont need to d'load all those files all over again?
[10:14] <shivy> yes very even .... I like my wm to be CLEAN and fast
[10:14] <Scholar_Gypsy> how do i do it?
[10:14] <ompaul> Kromonos, tarball and scp or sftp both of which exist on an machine with ssh on them - you may need to install dropbear or some such to have a sshd that will allow you do ssh stuff
[10:14] <Scrawny1> will breezy fix that or am I shit outa luck?
[10:14] <holy_cow> guys, anyone know a quick/good tutorial on how to apply a diff patch?
[10:14] <holy_cow> google returns so much info back its hard to tell what is what
[10:14] <Gavrila> anyone here with problems with latest breezy fglrx?
[10:15] <thoreauputic> shivy: installing xfce4 is just a matter of " sudo apt-gey install xfce4 " - what's the problem exactly?
[10:15] <oceandead> i use xfce as well but not because gnome is ugly
[10:15] <Kromonos> ompaul: ssh is good. I'll use ssh :)
[10:15] <Sly> holy_cow google advanced search ?
[10:15] <shivy> Im trying to get my VNCserver to work under xfce4
[10:15] <holy_cow> Sly, fuck off?
[10:15] <shivy> but it always starts in gnome
[10:15] <plip> hello any body care to chat
[10:15] <oceandead> thoreauputic - shivy is trying to get xfce session via vnc
[10:15] <wingman920> does yahoo messenger work on ubuntu?
[10:15] <Scrawny1> only on gaim
[10:15] <thoreauputic> oceandead: ah OK - my bad
[10:16] <wingman920> does yahoo messenger work on ubuntu?
[10:16] <freeza> im trying to install enlightenment dr17 but apt-get will not do it because the pkg is not amd64
[10:16] <oceandead> wingman920: yes, with gaim
[10:16] <pem> Hi all. Who is in charge of the legal issues about Ubuntu ? I'm working on a book about Linux for the french publisher Micro Application (http://www.microapp.com) and I used Ubuntu Linux for the live CD chapter. I have to ask for an official "ok" for selling my future book with the live CD version of Ubuntu.
[10:16] <Sly> was no need for that, you obviously know to go to google, but cant use google advance , to sort the crap out of the results, shame
[10:16] <shivy> wingman920: try Gyach Enhanced - lots of compiling but vey handly + voicechat
[10:16] <Sly> yr pupils at my college can use google advance
[10:16] <shivy> anyway: Ive been trying this for weeks. now the VNCserver doesnt even wanna connect anymore ... grrr
[10:16] <aethera> how do you mount something that any user can see it?
[10:17] <thoreauputic> pem: I would email canonical
[10:17] <shivy> my ssh btw which i am on now works perfectly (gottah love putty)
[10:17] <oceandead> wish i could help ya there shivy
[10:17] <plip> fgghg
[10:17] <pem> thoreauputic: ok
[10:17] <aethera> shivy: wahts the problem?
[10:17] <thoreauputic> pem: I doubt it would be a problem
[10:17] <shivy> well My vncserver shows a gnome desktop
[10:17] <thoreauputic> pem: it's all good for Ubuntu :)
[10:17] <aftertaf> pem> c'est mme une trs bonne ide mec ;)
[10:17] <shivy> instead of xfce4
[10:18] <shivy> because Gnome is a HUGE desktop
[10:18] <pem> I know that's not a real problam
[10:18] <shivy> and i want something clean and fast
[10:18] <pem> but my editor needs thoses official email for doing what you're already able to do with the GPL :)
[10:18] <aethera> ok how do you remount everything in your fstab?
[10:18] <shivy> Every howto points to the xsession file
[10:18] <magnon> shivy: it's not huge graphically.
[10:18] <dducko> Could someone connect to me and see if my webserver is working.. i ll send the IP privately
[10:18] <er4z0r> re
[10:18] <Burgundavia> aeddan_, mount -a
[10:18] <thoreauputic> pem: :)
[10:19] <Burgundavia> aethera, mount -a
[10:19] <shivy> But in ubuntu that is simply being overriden by something else
[10:19] <magnon> shivy: using another desktop under vnc wont solve anything
[10:19] <shivy> magnon. thats not a solution
[10:19] <pem> And by the way, thanks for the great work on Ubuntu Linux. I'm glad to present such a distro to all my (many :) ) future readers.
[10:19] <aethera> how do I mount a usb drive so my normal user can see it
[10:19] <shivy> I really just want to use 1 desktop in common
[10:19] <freeza> why dont you just use fluxbox?
[10:19] <shivy> not both gnome and XFCE4
[10:19] <nalioth> dducko: you dont want the /. effect by publically revealing your IP?
[10:19] <er4z0r> can anyone tell me how to configure cups to use the "raw" printing proctocol with a printer?
[10:19] <aethera> /dev/sda1       /media/sda      ntfs    ro,user,auto    0       0
[10:19] <aethera> I use that atm
[10:19] <magnon> why do you even have to use xfce? :P
[10:20] <shivy> well if I knew how to switch to vncserver working under fluxbox I wouldve
[10:20] <shivy> Its not a discussion about what desktop i should use
[10:20] <shivy> Its about HOW to get a diffrent desktop under a VNCSERVER
[10:20] <dducko> theres nothing on the page so wouldnt matter.. oh what the hell i can kill (hopefuly)
[10:20] <aethera> as root I can see the stuff on the drive
[10:20] <dducko> http://12.240.55.140/
[10:20] <er4z0r> athera: try using "users" in fstab
[10:21] <aftertaf> aethera> yep. ^^^^^^
[10:21] <thoreauputic> BTW for fluxbox aficionados - I just compiled the new version 0.9.14 from svn, and it solves the slow startup xmb bug in previous versions! :D
[10:21] <er4z0r> and check permissions of /media/sda
[10:21] <aethera> still can not see it hey
[10:22] <freeza> anyone here using amd64 ubuntu?
[10:22] <aethera> dr-x------    1 root     root        16384 2005-09-15 10:27 sda
[10:22] <er4z0r> aethera: so there you have your problem ;)
[10:23] <Gavrila> ompaul, you got ati card?
[10:23] <aethera> You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of "sda".
[10:23] <aethera> drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         4096 2005-09-16 10:18 sda
[10:23] <aftertaf> bots?
[10:23] <oceandead> umask=000?
[10:24] <freeza> i almost got my ati 3d working
[10:24] <aethera> jeanre@digimortal:~ $ cd /media/sda
[10:24] <aethera> bash: cd: /media/sda: Permission denied
[10:24] <ompaul> Gavrila, no
[10:24] <aftertaf> aethera> sudo chmod 777 /media/sda
[10:24] <aethera> oceandead: nope
[10:24] <Gavrila> freeza, hoary=
[10:24] <Gavrila> ?
[10:25] <freeza> yeah
[10:25] <Gavrila> I don't understarnd why fglrx is so broken in breezy
[10:26] <er4z0r> this idea about disabling administrative task in cups webinterface sux
[10:26] <aethera> aftertaf: should 755 not be good enough
[10:26] <Burgundavia> Gavrila, have you tried today?
[10:26] <Gavrila> Burgundavia,
[10:26] <Gavrila> yes and my screen is all blurry
[10:26] <xuniluser> Microsucks representatives are actively raiding net cafes here in the Philippines....
[10:26] <Burgundavia> er4z0r, it was done for security reasons
[10:26] <aftertaf> aethera> yep..... my error (plus its ntfs so no write access ;) )
[10:26] <freeza> gav u using amd64 hoary?
[10:26] <Gavrila> as I get back to "ati" driver then it's all good
[10:26] <Gavrila> nope
[10:26] <Gavrila> inspiron 6000
[10:26] <aftertaf> xuniluser> nasty.... get em on ubuntu :D
[10:26] <Madpilot> er4z0r: System menu - Admin - Printing
[10:27] <er4z0r> Burgundavia: that would be fine, if I figured out how to tell cups to send raw" data to the unix printers on my printserver
[10:27] <Gavrila> am I the only one with blurry screen with latest fglrx?
[10:27] <evrix> hi all
[10:27] <er4z0r> Madpilot: yes, I know but i could not find the feature there
[10:27] <evrix> i have a problem
[10:28] <thoreauputic> *sigh* the bots are back it seems...
[10:28] <evrix> can anyone help?
[10:28] <evrix> pliz...
[10:28] <aftertaf> yep thoreauputic
[10:28] <Madpilot> evrix: please just ask your actual question...
[10:28] <Gavrila> evrix, everyone has got a problem in the world
[10:28] <er4z0r> thoreauputic: wher?
[10:28] <freeza> is there a repository for eclipse?
[10:28] <evrix> mine's bigger...
[10:29] <evrix> :p
[10:29] <marc^>  mines bigger
[10:29] <ekimus> evrix: just ask the question!
[10:29] <evrix> okiz
[10:29] <evrix> i'm trying to install kubuntu from hard disk
[10:29] <marc^> 'can i ask a question' < you just did
[10:29] <aethera> oh I asked for a wallpaper changer
[10:29] <evrix> by an entry in lilo
[10:29] <aethera> anyone know of any nice ones?
[10:29] <evrix> installer starts
[10:29] <oceandead> gnome-look.org
[10:30] <evrix> but then keeps looking for cdrom
[10:30] <ekimus> evrix: and please ask the question in a single line, it's very hard to follow if you hit enter about 20 times
[10:30] <evrix> i tried to mount the iso
[10:30] <Madpilot> aethera: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:30] <evrix> huh
[10:31] <evrix> i'm trying to install kubuntu directky from hd by an entry in lilo. installer boots but keeps on looking for cdrom. i tried to mount the iso an to link it to /cdrom but with no luck. any idea?
[10:31] <evrix> thx
[10:31] <ekimus> anyone using csh? i can't get it to show the $cwd my prompt is: ""`whoami`@`hostname -s`:$cwd#" but it doesn't change the path
[10:32] <ekimus> evrix: you already have ubuntu installed?
[10:32] <Madpilot> evrix: if that one line had been your opening line, you'd have had help a lot sooner...
[10:32] <evrix> now i know...
[10:32] <evrix> :7
[10:33] <er4z0r> could anyone, please, help me with my printer problem: We have a printserver in the net with 2 printers (lp3,lp2) and because we want our windows machines to use them, I shall configure the cups on our samba machine to pass the raw data overto the printserver
[10:33] <ekimus> evrix: if you already have ubuntu installed the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[10:33] <evrix> i want to put it on another pc
[10:33] <er4z0r> problem is: I do not find that f'in option. Where can I find official docs for gnome-printer-manager?
[10:34] <evrix> what option?
[10:34] <er4z0r> for passing through "raw" data to the printserver
[10:34] <evrix> hmm
[10:34] <evrix> isn't it depending on the driver?
[10:34] <er4z0r> and I can not managa that printer over webinterface as admin-tasks are disabled
[10:35] <ekimus> er4z0r: if it's using cups in the background there are docs available at the web interface
[10:35] <evrix> i mean: the driver is ps, pcl, raw or whatever ain't it?
[10:35] <er4z0r> ekimus: hrm?
[10:36] <evrix> hrm?
[10:36] <evrix> i have to go now
[10:36] <evrix> maybe see you next week if i didn't install yet
[10:36] <er4z0r> I select the printer and then I can select drivers (ps, hpjs ...)
[10:37] <scx> WOW ubuntusers duplicates as rabbits !
[10:37] <ndazza> has anyone played with xen under ubuntu?
[10:37] <evrix> so when you choose the driver you choose the way to communicate data
[10:37] <evrix> i think...
[10:37] <evrix> byez all
[10:38] <ekimus> scx: that's easy "for i in $(seq 1  100); do apt-get install ubuntu box$1;done" :)
[10:38] <poningru> ndazza: I would like to know about this if you get an answer
[10:39] <aethera> can you mount nero image file in linux?
[10:39] <ndazza> poningru: i've tried once before using the binary packages, i'm downloading the source now
[10:39] <poningru> ndazza: is it not in the repos?
[10:39] <aftertaf> aethera> yes.... you can... dunno the syntax
[10:39] <ndazza> poningru: nope, not that i can see
[10:40] <aethera> is there not a virtual cd emulator like daemon tools?
[10:40] <pef> hu
[10:40] <ekimus> athlon: "mount -o loop image.iso /mnt" doesnt work?
[10:40] <pef> aethera, cdemu.sf.net
[10:43] <bobesponja> I just plugged my ubuntu laptop to my LAN (dhcp), how can I connect it to the net now?
[10:43] <bobesponja> knowing that I installed ubuntu offline
[10:43] <aftertaf> bobesponja> dhcp may have given out the default gateway...
[10:44] <dducko> could someone tellme if this is working.   http:\\dizzy-d.dyndns.org
[10:44] <dducko> oops
[10:44] <dducko> could someone tellme if this is working.   http://dizzy-d.dyndns.org
[10:44] <ekimus> dducko: this will never work, those are backslashes :)
[10:44] <aftertaf> bobesponja> check in /etc/network/interfaces that eth0 is setup for dhcp : iface eth0 inet dhcp
[10:44] <ekimus> dducko: "Hello World!"
[10:44] <dducko> i saw it.. a little late but I saw it.. ok cool its working
[10:45] <ekimus> heh :)
[10:45] <dducko> 345am im a little slow right now
[10:45] <er4z0r> dducko: yes it does
[10:45] <dducko> thanks
[10:46] <dducko> *watches the lights dance on his modem*
[10:46] <aftertaf> lol dducko
[10:46] <aftertaf> your nick is almost the next version of ubuntu, man ;)
[10:46] <dducko> Hmm?
[10:46] <davro> hi all, does anyone know if the rubygems package/manager is going tobe on the breezy repository.
[10:46] <Gavrila> the ntp init script is dumb, it deosn't check if the network is up or not... and when it's not  it waits fot imeout....
[10:47] <osfameron> aftertaf: what's the next version?  daffy duck?
[10:47] <aftertaf> yes, nearly :)
[10:47] <aftertaf> dapper drake
[10:47] <dducko> lol  cool name
[10:47] <osfameron> I like that more than breezy
[10:47] <floppyears> hi
[10:47] <aftertaf> imho, a bit close to mandrake...
[10:48] <ndazza> davro: i have the breezy repo and there's no rubygems package
[10:48] <floppyears> I have shell access to a machine at work, in that machine I can access the mysql server
[10:48] <aftertaf> idve preferred Vernaculous Viper (beats Vista(poo))
[10:48] <bobesponja> aftertaf: now I added " iface eth0 inet dhcp" but still no internet, i did a /etc/init.d/network restart but nothing
[10:48] <floppyears> but I need to compile stuff at home and somehow access that mysql server at the same time
[10:48] <floppyears> any ideas ?
[10:48] <aftertaf> bobesponja> what does ifconfig show you, an IP for eth0 ?
[10:49] <aftertaf> floppyears> screen ;D
[10:49] <Spermite> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[10:49] <Spermite>   kaffeine: Depends: kdelibs4 (>= 4:3.3.2-4.0.2) but it is not going to be installed
[10:49] <Spermite> what the heck
[10:49] <dducko> anyone know a better way to do this.. I own the dizzy-d.com address.. through godaddy.. gonna forward it to a dynddns address
[10:49] <ekimus> floppyears: you mean accessing 2 boxes with a single shell?
[10:49] <davro> ndazza: cheers for the check, wanders off scratching head, ruby without the pacakge/manager.
[10:49] <bob2> Spermite: welcome to sid!
[10:49] <bob2> floppyears: how is that a problem?
[10:49] <floppyears> the stuff that I'm compiling needs to access the db at work, and I can't access it from home
[10:50] <aftertaf> lol bob2 sid is vicious
[10:50] <floppyears> I have to ssh at work and then access the db from that shell
[10:50] <bob2> er
[10:50] <ndazza> davro: it might come with the ruby package?
[10:50] <freeza> hello
[10:50] <bob2> floppyears: so setup an ssh tunnel
[10:50] <bobesponja> aftertaf: it doesn't show any inet when I type ifconfig
[10:50] <Spermite> how can i fic my problem
[10:50] <freeza> hey is there an eclipse repository for hoary?
[10:50] <floppyears> bob2: is that hard to figure out ?
[10:50] <Spermite> fix^
[10:50] <ekimus> floppyears: create an ssh tunnel (google has tons of howtos on that topic)
[10:50] <bob2> floppyears: man ssh, -L9999:localhost:whateverportmysqluses
[10:50] <aftertaf> bobesponja> paste me in private what ifconfig shows you.
[10:51] <bobesponja> aftertaf: i cant past without an internet connection but let me try :)
[10:51] <aftertaf> hehe
[10:51] <ndazza> bob2: whateverportmysqluses=3306 (by default)
[10:51] <floppyears> bob2: cool thanks
[10:52] <floppyears> bob2: so what would I specify for the db host ?
[10:52] <aftertaf> Spermite> what version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:52] <ekimus> more generic: -L9999:localhost:mysql :)
[10:52] <davro> ndazza: rubygems is a seperate tool, kinda like php pear, just seems really strange to not include it.
[10:52] <ekimus> that is if your /etc/services is set up
[10:52] <ekimus> floppyears: the db host is then localhost:9999
[10:52] <bob2> ekimus: good point
[10:53] <Spermite> aftertaf. not actually using ubuntu, using debian
[10:53] <floppyears> ekimus: thanks :)
[10:53] <bob2> Spermite: file a bug if no one else has
[10:53] <lenhan> does anybody happen to have used pvm on ubuntu?
[10:54] <Spermite> shouldnt be to hard to fox
[10:54] <Spermite> fix^
[10:54] <davro> ndazza: rubygems can be downloaded seperatly, but i like to keep the apt as the main pkg-manager
[10:54] <martii> hi
[10:54] <bob2> Spermite: right, but you can't fix it
[10:54] <martii> got small problem
[10:54] <martii> replaced image-386 with image-686
[10:55] <ekimus> anyone interested in some "advanced ubuntu" channel? i get the feeling that a number of advanced questions are somewhat ignored, looking at the amount of questions new users have
[10:55] <Spermite> bob2 =
[10:55] <martii> and Xorg does not work as expected
[10:55] <dducko> is there a way to apt-get nvu?
[10:55] <martii> ekimus: if it;s goint to be supported why not
[10:55] <bob2> Spermite: ?
[10:55] <yhann> hi to all, i need help how to install an application on Kubuntu.
[10:55] <martii> dducko: grap binary distro
[10:55] <marc^> whats the difference between 386 and 686
[10:55] <lenhan> ekimus: I'd be interested
[10:55] <martii> dducko: install in PATH
[10:55] <bob2> ekimus: I don't think splitting the community is a good idea
[10:55] <Spermite> bob2 =0(
[10:56] <dducko> *goes to figure it out*
[10:56] <bob2> ekimus: you'd get all the advanced users going there, leaving the simple questions even more unanswered than they are now
[10:56] <bob2> which would be mitigated if people actually read documentiation
[10:56] <lenhan> bob2: good point
[10:56] <freeza> is there an eclipse repository?
[10:57] <ekimus> bob2: it works on several other channels i know, why not on ubuntu?
[10:57] <lenhan> hehe, I can't find any documentation regarding pvm on ubuntu
[10:57] <bob2> ekimus: because ubuntu is extremely cluebie heavy
[10:57] <bob2> lenhan: the paralelel thing?
[10:57] <ekimus> freeza: just grab the original from eclipse.org, it's the easiest way
[10:57] <bob2> lenhan: that doesn't sound ubuntu-specific at all
[10:57] <lenhan> bob2: yes
[10:57] <freeza> ok
[10:57] <marc^> anyone?
[10:58] <No1Viking> bob2: pvm is there, in Synaptic
[10:58] <ekimus> freeza: it's even enough to put it somewhere in your home, been working with that set up for quite some time when i did java
[10:58] <bob2> No1Viking: yes, I know
[10:58] <unreal> is it possible to give ownership of a file to different groups at the same time?
[10:58] <aftertaf> 386 is processor non specific (just i386 architecture)
[10:58] <marc^> difference between i386 and i686 ?
[10:58] <lenhan> bob2: I have the package installed (that's pretty easy), but it looks like ubuntu uses rsh by default instead of ssh
[10:58] <davro> marc^: inanutshell Basically the difference between the
[10:58] <davro> 2 architectures is the i386 is optimized for older Pentium processors
[10:58] <davro> and the i686 for the newer processors that are currently out there.
[10:58] <freeza> ahh ok
[10:58] <aftertaf> 686 is for Celeron, PIII, PIV
[10:58] <bob2> unreal: no, files have only one group owner
[10:58] <bob2> unreal: unless you use ACLs; what are you trying to do?
[10:58] <marc^> so i should get 686 if i have   P4?
[10:58] <bob2> lenhan: rsh poitn at ssh
[10:59] <lenhan> bob2: I'm also interested in a more recent version of ubuntu
[10:59] <bob2> lenhan: I don't think rsh is in Debian, anywhere
[10:59] <bob2> lenhan: breezy is it, but dont' upgrade if you care about nvidia binary drivers
[10:59] <lenhan> bob2: yes, rsh is symbolically linked to ssh
[10:59] <ekimus> marc^: nothing users really have to care about. all pentiums that are now on the market are 686 if you are concerned about the packages with those in the name, 386 will still work fine
[10:59] <davro> marc^: Different instruction set at compiler level
[10:59] <No1Viking> rsh clients.
[10:59] <No1Viking> This package contains rsh, rcp and rlogin.
[11:00] <ndazza> bob2: there is an rsh-client and rsh-server package
[11:00] <thespiritoftal> anyone knows how to use gmailfs? I have got it using apt-get... how will I configure it now?
[11:00] <bob2> ndazza: ew
[11:00] <ekimus> rsh should have died by now
[11:00] <bob2> thespiritoftal: it really had no instructions?
[11:00] <ekimus> like ftp
[11:00] <thespiritoftal> well dunno
[11:00] <ndazza> rsh will be there for some time, for compatibility
[11:00] <ndazza> same as telnet
[11:00] <bob2> ftp at least has a safe use for distributing software
[11:00] <lenhan> bob2: I'm having problems with it for some reason; I've tried manually compiling it without any success
[11:00] <ndazza> there are still legit uses of it
[11:00] <CCFIEL> hello ppl..
[11:00] <holy_cow> anyone here run mythtv on their ubuntu box?
[11:00] <bob2> thespiritoftal: so have a look?
[11:01] <CCFIEL> how do i install shockwave in ubuntu
[11:01] <yhann> martii: please can you be more specific about install?
[11:01] <aftertaf> CCFIEL> iirc it doesnt exist
[11:01] <unreal> bob2: i'm adding a directory for an apache2 virtual host, but I don't want 'other' users to list the contents of the directory... and I want the new folder to be accessable to only that user, but allow apache2 to view and list the contents of it
[11:01] <lenhan> bob2: I'm using pvm for work related stuff; I'm using "another solution" for now until I figure how to do it on ubuntu
[11:02] <thoreauputic> CCFIEL: no shockwave for Linux AFAIK
[11:02] <ndazza> unreal: set the user to be the user you want to give access to, the group to be the group of the www server
[11:02] <ekimus> bob2: rsync is much better than ftp imho...
[11:02] <unreal> bob2: creating a new group and givin the user in question and www-data access to the group doesn't help, that's why I was wondering if a file could belong to two groups
[11:03] <lenhan> bob2: I just wondered if anybody might could give me some hints; I'll figure it out (eventually)
[11:03] <bob2> unreal: what's the point of restricting access to it if apache can list it to the world?
[11:03] <bob2> ekimus: of course
[11:03] <unreal> ndazza: that means the user could mess about and view the contents of the other directories in the same group, which I don't want :)
[11:03] <bob2> lenhan: irc is a bad place for questions like that; I'd try the pvm list or ubuntu-users
[11:03] <ndazza> unreal: oh. well set the user ownership to be the www server and group ownership to be the group of the user
[11:04] <unreal> bob2: because some files can be kept secret by apache2.. and some of the subdirs won't be listed either
[11:04] <drummer87> hi all, does anyone know what a ppc G3 500mHz is comparable to in terms of an intel/pentium CPU?
[11:04] <bob2> unreal: creating a new group
[11:04] <bob2> drummer87: depends what you're doing
[11:04] <lenhan> bob2: thanks
[11:04] <bob2> unreal: er, should work
[11:04] <bob2> unreal: acls will work
[11:05] <drummer87> bob2, roughly? how does it differ?
[11:05] <bob2> drummer87: roughly depends on what you're doing
[11:06] <martii> yhann: standard install
[11:06] <drummer87> would it run gnome smoothly? (with 192mb ram i think)
[11:06] <martii> yhann: frglx driver for ati
[11:06] <martii> yhann: 2 displays
[11:06] <bob2> ram will be the issue there
[11:06] <martii> yhann: before update I had to separate desktops
[11:07] <martii> yhann: now it looks like one and the same
[11:07] <floppyears> bob2: I tried that and it didn't work
[11:07] <lenhan> drummer87: http://www.themacobserver.com/shootouts/processor_notes.html  <-- might give you an idea
[11:07] <floppyears> bob2: I don't think I can reach the mysql server
[11:07] <ndazza> floppyears: as a test, do telnet localhost 9999
[11:08] <ndazza> floppyears: if that fails to connect, something is wrong :)
[11:08] <floppyears> bob2: from home, I have to first ssh to work then from the work shell I have to access the mysql server (another machine)
[11:08] <drummer87> bob2, ram isn't everything though, i have ubuntu on a p3 with 512mb ram and menus are sluggish.. Oo.o takes an age to open
[11:08] <gorilla> #ubuntu
[11:08] <drummer87> thanks lenhan
[11:08] <bob2> floppyears: that would have been useful to mention in your original question
[11:08] <gorilla> oops.. sorry
[11:08] <floppyears> bob2: sorry, I forgot :(
[11:08] <lenhan> drummer87: np =-)
[11:08] <bob2> drummer87: yes, the cpu is kinda slow, too
[11:08] <bob2> floppyears: then it's the same principal, but more complicated and laggy
[11:08] <unreal> bob2: heh thanks for that
[11:09] <floppyears> bob2: ok, thanks. I think I'm just going to go to bed and do this at work in the morning :)
[11:09] <bob2> unreal: don't forget to mount the partition with the acl option, tho
[11:09] <dducko> quick question.. im hosting a website on my computer.. do i want to work directly with files in /var/www or somewhere else and "publish" to there?
[11:09] <unreal> bob2: yeah, i'm about to do that
[11:09] <bob2> dducko: do you really want to make changes live?
[11:09] <unreal> bob2: just searched google for "acls operation not supported" :P
[11:09] <Spermite> can someone show me what they have under #MPLAYER in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:10] <dducko> Probally, wont be much on the page
[11:10] <unreal> when in doubt, ask bob2, or search google :)
[11:10] <danst> hi, i am searching for days (!) now but i dont find a working solution to import my mail from outlook to evolution.Tried: Thunderbird (Win): crashed (to big file? 300meg), outport: how to import in evo?, readpst: malloc failure, eudora: import succeeded but many emails look wired all are in html only and i cannot switch. I would prefer the outport solution, but I dont know how to import the mails. can anyone help me?
[11:10] <unreal> g'day everyone, ty again bob2
[11:10] <dducko> my only drawback is.. how do i make nvu run with persions to write there.. or do i change the permisions on the folder
[11:10] <aftertaf> danst> if u dont have too much mail, send it to yourself (transfer)
[11:10] <pesco> Hi, what's a good package to manage network locations?
[11:11] <ndazza> danst: try outlook->outlook express->elsewhere
[11:11] <aftertaf> dducko> permissions on folder..... but i'd do in /home then copy if i were U
[11:11] <pesco> I.e. change address, wifi, etc. settings when moving from one place to another?
[11:11] <danst> aftertaf, thats not really a solution
[11:11] <dducko> that would work..
[11:11] <bob2> Spermite: people don't have the word "MPLAYER" in their sources.list
[11:11] <dducko> and i can always figure out a script thingy
[11:11] <aftertaf> danst> i know, but i dont have a real one, just a tip i tried myself.
[11:12] <bob2> Spermite: if you want to install mplayer, get it from multiverse
[11:12] <osfameron> my "Lock Screen" is broken...
[11:12] <osfameron> can I start it up again without rebooting?
[11:12] <bob2> danst: readpst - Converts Outlook PST files to mbox and others
[11:12] <freeza> anyone here running amd64 hoary?
[11:12] <danst> ok thanks
[11:12] <bob2> osfameron: alt-f2 xscreensaver <enter>
[11:13] <danst> bob2, i already tried this but it has a memory alloc error
[11:13] <aethera> oooooooooh my ubuntu rock
[11:13] <benplaut> btw, anyone know how to change the lock-screen dialog theme?
[11:13] <aethera> rocks even
[11:13] <osfameron> bob2: thanks (though I have run app mapped to Win-R due to brain hardwiring :-)
[11:13] <lenhan> aethera: hehe
[11:13] <benplaut> i prefer the hoary one over the new breezy one
[11:14] <bob2> benplaut: downgrade to the hoary version of xscreensver
[11:14] <bob2> I liked the old breezy one which had a picture of me in it
[11:14] <benplaut> :P
[11:14] <benplaut> do you know what patch/program they use for lock screen?
[11:14] <benplaut> the xss patch, by chance?
[11:15] <aethera> hmmm
[11:15] <nalioth> bob2: it sure is nice, not havin the damned bots join/part eh?
[11:15] <aethera> benplaut: its xscreensaver thiny?
[11:17] <nalioth> bob2: just aftertaf and his flaky proxy
[11:17] <bob2> nalioth: heh
[11:17] <danst> ok thank you!
[11:17] <dealt> greetings
[11:18] <aethera> whats the menu editor for gnome called?
[11:18] <benplaut> !smeg
[11:18] <ubotu> I heard smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[11:18] <benplaut> aethera, yeah, xscreensaver
[11:18] <benplaut> well, anyway, good night everyone :P
[11:19] <lenhan> good night benplaut; I'm going to sleep too
[11:19] <dealt> im having problems with Breezy install, im having an error during Base install stage
[11:19] <dealt> any pointers?
[11:19] <nalioth> dealt: wait til oct 13?
[11:19] <bob2> dealt: did you check the cd?
[11:20] <after8> probably simplest.^2
[11:20] <dealt> bob2:uhh. no?
[11:20] <bob2> then do that
[11:20] <dealt> bob2:thanks
[11:21] <aethera> erm for warty?
[11:21] <marc^> would be much easier to get help if computers were in the same room
[11:21] <freeza> is there a libdvdcss2 for amd64?
[11:21] <freeza> i cant seem to install the 32bit one
[11:21] <dducko> aftertaf doing it that way, made me a quick and dirty script... we'll see how it goes.
[11:21] <marc^> have to walk 15 meters to the other computer, which is 2m away directly
[11:21] <aethera> marc^: vnc :P
[11:21] <after8> or ssh
[11:21] <after8> :D
[11:22] <aethera> after8: is there a menu editor for warty?
[11:22] <della> hi, small question on apt pinning
[11:23] <della> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[11:23] <della> in sources.list
[11:23] <trigger_ph> can anyone help me with samba on warty? is it possible to access files shared in a Windows controlled domain?
[11:23] <nalioth> aethera: smeg?
[11:23] <della> and
[11:23] <della> Package: *
[11:23] <della> Pin: release a=hoary-backports
[11:23] <della> Pin-Priority: 800
[11:23] <bob2> just don't do it
[11:23] <bob2> trigger_ph: that's not what samba does
[11:24] <cosmosdone> is there any thing for connecting Mac OS X and an ubuntu workstation over intranet LAN which is windows PC based?
[11:24] <della> seem not to do what I want (e.g., packages on hoary-backports don't get priority 800)
[11:24] <della> any idea?
[11:24] <Echelon-H> what is the command to run file-manager thingy?
[11:24] <bob2> cosmosdone: you plug them into the switch.  all done.
[11:24] <bob2> Echelon-H: nautilus.
[11:24] <Echelon-H> thanks
[11:24] <bob2> della: it's really not worth doing that
[11:24] <after8> aethera> i'm a kde kind of user.... for me yes there is.
[11:24] <trigger_ph> @bob2 i see. what package will i need to do that kind of thing?
[11:24] <after8> aethera> for pixie, not sure ;)
[11:25] <bob2> trigger_ph: smbfs
[11:25] <della> bob2: why?
[11:25] <Echelon-H> bob2, you know what's the xfce one?
[11:25] <cosmosdone> bob2:yes sure there are all plugged, just cant see each other, could it be the Chinese character sets on different system? This is China......
[11:25] <bob2> della: because pinning always goes bad
[11:25] <Echelon-H> oh, and is thre anything I can open RAR files with?
[11:26] <bob2> della: just leave backports commented out in your sources.list and enable them if you need somehting in particular
[11:26] <bob2> Echelon-H: no
[11:26] <trigger_ph> @bob2 ok..i'll wait for apt-get dist-upgrade to free up synaptic, then i'll check if i got that package installed. thanks!
[11:26] <bob2> cosmosdone: "see each other"?
[11:26] <bob2> Echelon-H: unrar
[11:26] <cosmosdone> bob2:browse each others' shared folder
[11:26] <freeza> how do i install a 32bit app in 64bit hoary?
[11:27] <bob2> freeza: you don't
[11:27] <bob2> freeza: if you care about binary-only junk, use the i386 port
[11:27] <bob2> freeza: or make a i386 chroot
[11:27] <della> bob2: "pinning always goes bad"? why should that be?
[11:27] <cosmosdone> bob2: yes i have a workaround already just set up a LAN ftp server and log everybody in, just want to know is there anything realy easy and stupid to do it...
[11:27] <bob2> della: because people misuse it
[11:28] <bob2> cosmosdone: I don't know what you want
[11:28] <freeza> well i need the libdvdcss2 to play retail dvds and i cant find a 64bit pack for it
[11:28] <martin_ii> Hi, anyone using the customized version for HP laptops ?
[11:28] <bob2> cosmosdone: if you want to share files to windows machines, install samba
[11:28] <cosmosdone> bob2: ok thanks
[11:28] <bob2> freeza: installing an i386 libdvdcss2 is not going to help amd64 apps, anyway
[11:29] <freeza> ohh
[11:29] <cosmosdone> i mean it's a Mac + Linux + Windows LAN, and the gateway is a wondows 2000
[11:29] <freeza> so what can i do for that?
[11:29] <della> bob2: thanks anyway for the response, even I'f I'm not satisfied with it
[11:29] <bob2> della: okiedokie
[11:30] <cosmosdone> bob2: and different systems want to share files just by setting up defalut LAN setting, but falied
[11:31] <after8> cosmosdone> theyll need some common mutual authentification system somewhere
[11:32] <thespiritoftal> let's say i have a gzip file which is 1 gb.. can i divide it into parts of 9mb and then get them together again?
[11:32] <cosmosdone> :after8: yeah probably....
[11:32] <cosmosdone> should I try smb on Mac OS X
[11:33] <after8> is the w2k server just a standalone? no domain?
[11:33] <cosmosdone> no domain
[11:33] <cosmosdone> standalone
[11:33] <selinium> thoreauputic, was it you who had got rosegarden4 working?
[11:33] <after8> go samba then dude. (i dont know how, but hey ;) )
[11:33] <bob2> thespiritoftal: of course, but that seems pointless
[11:33] <aethera> after8: elaborate
[11:34] <cosmosdone> after8: kill me before the configuration files get me.....
[11:34] <thoreauputic> selinium: yes, I got it working with timidity as a server + freepats and jack
[11:34] <thoreauputic> selinium: a while ago - haven't used it much since :)
[11:34] <cosmosdone> i'd wished there's a linux version of PcMacLAN
[11:34] <nalioth> selinium: what client do you use?
[11:34] <after8> samba..... set up a samba server on linux or mac, and join the w2k to the workgroup
[11:35] <selinium> thoreauputic, lol I will have to pick your brains at some point!
[11:35] <knite> yay for live CD!  I just booted into my new machine (A64) for the first time.  there are no drives in the box yet, just cpu, ram, video card.  the live CD is in a USB cdrom drive.
[11:35] <selinium> nalioth, X-chat
[11:35] <knite> (first try actually failed, and I traced it to a corrupt CD image)
[11:35] <nalioth> selinium: in the server options for freenode, put YOUR password in teh 'server password' box
[11:35] <thoreauputic> selinium: heh - I think I've forgotten most of what I did, frankly :)
[11:36] <scanwinder> does anyone know of a firewall or configurator for IPtables which prompts asking if u wanna allow or deny access when something attempts to access the internet?
[11:36] <wezzer> !beagle
[11:36] <ubotu> I guess beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto
[11:36] <after8> scanwinder> i was wondering that this morning in the car to work......
[11:36] <cosmosdone> i can already see the future when Vista comes out, that will be a hell of connecting my ubuntu to others....
[11:36] <selinium> nalioth, it is, it just joins before the nickserv  message is sent/received.
[11:37] <nalioth> scanwinder: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&from=rss
[11:37] <nalioth> selinium: if you put it in the "server password" and not hte "nickserv password" you wont be bumped into -unregged
[11:38] <thoreauputic> cosmosdone: if MS make it hard to connect, they will be shooting themselves in the foot
[11:38] <selinium> nalioth, Ok, I see. :) I have changed the settings, lets see! See you in 2. :)
[11:39] <after8> cosmosdone> plus you'll probably have to submit DNA befre getting a license key for it
[11:41] <knite> i want to test the media capability (music, video) of ubuntu... can anyone suggest a website to go grab sample media from?
[11:41] <selinium> nalioth, No bumping! cool!
[11:41] <nalioth> selinium: see?
[11:41] <selinium> nalioth, :P Didn't disbelieve you! :D
[11:41] <scanwinder> nalioth: i just skimmed that article..........i read anything about any of the tools prompting..........did i just not read it carefully enough or does it not mention it?
[11:41] <nalioth> selinium: i use irssi, i have to write all my settings by hand
[11:41] <scanwinder> nalioth: i mean i didnt read anything about any of the tools prompting
[11:41] <knite> i just tried to go to NPR to grab a streaming audio, and found that i can't listen to either windows media or real audio...  how embarrassing
[11:41] <after8> scanwinder> as per norton computer crasher?? i dunno if that existd for nux
[11:42] <nalioth> scanwinder: i have no direct knowledge of iptables, b/c ubuntu doesnt need a firewall
[11:42] <bob2> knite: so use mplayer
[11:42] <selinium> nalioth: I do use irssi, but only if I cant get X up. I need to learn abit more on how to use it properly.
[11:42] <nalioth> !tell knite about restricted
[11:42] <bob2> knite: assuming you read wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:42] <scanwinder> nalioth: why dosent ubuntu need a firewall?
[11:42] <nalioth> selinium: irssi is only limited by your scripting (or googling) abilities
[11:43] <nalioth> scanwinder: b/c by default, it has no open ports
[11:43] <scanwinder> nalioth: is it not vulnerable without one?
[11:43] <knite> are there good free format stuff i can find?  know where?
[11:43] <scanwinder> nalioth: ok
[11:43] <bob2> Windows only needs a firewall on the desktop because it's misdesigned
[11:43] <nalioth> scanwinder: also it's not another OS we are all familier with that allows everything in the world to come in and stay awhile
[11:43] <bob2> and lets random shit bind ports for no reason
[11:43] <knite> i'm limited to what i can run off of the live CD
[11:44] <after8> scanwinder> see the bit about "Safety in Linux"??? months -vs- 4 minutes ;)
[11:44] <after8> knite> go hardrive dude ;)
[11:44] <selinium> nalioth: true, but when it gets switched on I am having to browse with LYNX... So it is a bit arduous. I have to remeber to do some research when the pc isn't playing up!
[11:45] <scanwinder> does anyone know how i can get dashboard working in ubuntu? i cant find any repositories for it
[11:45] <after8> selinium> lynx pwns :D  it helped me yesterday without X
[11:45] <nalioth> selinium: you can use 'gnu screen' and irssi and NEVER havta log off again
[11:45] <knite> after8, no HD in this machine yet!
[11:45] <bob2> does dashboard even exist anymore?
[11:45] <bob2> I thought best replaced it
[11:45] <after8> knite> oh yeah i remember ;)
[11:45] <scanwinder> bob2: www.nat.org/dashboard/ looks like it
[11:45] <mumbles> damm back to work
[11:46] <scanwinder> bob2: i heard that they're not doing much with it at the moment because they're waiting for beagle to be stable
[11:46] <selinium> nalioth, how do you mean gnu screen?
[11:47] <scanwinder> how do i install dashboard via CVS?
[11:47] <nalioth> selinium: i mean open a terminal and type "screen"
[11:47] <dave1974> hi everyone
[11:48] <VoX> when trying to run an opengl game, it comes back with "Could not load OpenGL library". yet glxgear, gltron, etc all work fine. it has only started happening since i changed my monitors sync rates in xorg.conf. any ideas?
[11:48] <nalioth> dave1974: welcome
[11:48] <after8> selinium> you'll learn to love screen once you start :)
[11:48] <bob2> scanwinder: by reading it's instructions
[11:49] <selinium> nalioth, after8 : It just seems to have opened to command line, what is its purpose?
[11:49] <after8> selinium> ohoooo.....
[11:49] <dave1974> I'm havin' trouble with a dlink dwl-120+ wireless usb card, maybe someone can help me?
[11:49] <thoreauputic> selinium: man screen *evil grin*
[11:50] <selinium> thoreauputic: looking now!
[11:50] <scanwinder> bob2: do i need some sort of account to use ssh with gnome? it says 2 do" :ext:[username] @cvs.gnome.org:/cvs/gnome" in the instructions
[11:50] <thoreauputic> selinium: see you in a few days ;-)
[11:50] <after8> selinium> and go to macdevcenter and search for unix gems for mac osX
[11:50] <after8> heheheh thoreauputic
[11:50] <after8> *evin grin* indeed
[11:50] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: that has to be one of the most techno-gibberish-laden man files I've seen so far... ;)
[11:51] <thoreauputic> I stopped reading at page 38....
[11:51] <aethera> who has some working backports for warty?
[11:51] <Madpilot> thoreauputic: I stopped on about the fourth line...
[11:51] <after8> lol Madpilot
[11:51] <thoreauputic> Madpilot: heheh
[11:51] <bob2> scanwinder: you need to read the instructions
[11:51] <bob2> scanwinder: it is available to anonymous users
[11:52] <setite> how do i run an app from its icon in sudo
[11:52] <after8> selinium> you can run sth in shell, close the terminal, go elsewhere, connect via ssh and rejoin your running process... that is screen (about 0.15% of anyway)
[11:52] <Madpilot> later, all. need sleep
[11:52] <johnl> morning all
[11:53] <aethera> hi johnl
[11:53] <selinium> after8, Cheers for the synopsis! :)
[11:53] <johnl> Latest breezy updates killed my xserver.  firstly couldn't find a core pointer (/dev/input/mice device gone!) but a restart of udev fixed that
[11:53] <johnl> now can't find the default font fixed.
[11:53] <thoreauputic> selinium: this might be a kinder intro --> http://jmcpherson.org/screen.html
[11:54] <johnl> anyone got any clues.  the X11 font system is a mystery to me
[11:54] <johnl> and probably the developers too.
[11:54] <selinium> thoreauputic, Cheers!
[11:54] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:55] <setite> i need to configure my netgear ma111... im in kde... how do i?
[11:55] <pesco> How do I find the package that provides a particular file?
[11:55] <bob2> johnl: no, X fonts are simple
[11:56] <bob2> setite: at the command line
[11:56] <bob2> pesco: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:56] <pesco> bob2: Isn't there a command line tool?
[11:56] <bob2> pesco: apt-file or dpkg -S for installed packages
[11:56] <VoX> anyone?
[11:57] <pesco> bob2: Thank you, apt-file is what I was looking for.
[11:57] <bob2> VoX: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:57] <aethera> who has some working backports for warty?
[11:57] <bob2> VoX: then restart gdm
[11:58] <pesco> Is it correct that there is no "gcc" executable on ubuntu, only "gcc-3.3" or so?
[11:58] <smott> no, probably not
[11:58] <bob2> pesco: no
[11:58] <thoreauputic> pesco: install build-essential
[11:58] <bob2> pesco: install build-essential and there will be
[11:59] <pesco> bob2: Oh, ok. :)
[12:00] <pesco> I'm coming from Gentoo, takes a moment to re-adjust to the concept of binary packages that don't need building.
[12:00] <nalioth> pesco: you can build from source, if it pleases you
[12:01] <pesco> nalioth: Oh, how? Is it as simple as on Gentoo?
[12:01] <nalioth> pesco: yup
[12:01] <pesco> nalioth: Where do I set my prefered optimization flags?
[12:01] <nalioth> pesco: in your ~/.bashrc
[12:01] <bob2> haha
[12:02] <pesco> nalioth: Alright. :)
[12:02] <pesco> nalioth: So what's the magic command?
[12:03] <bob2> in practice, you don't, since it's stupid
[12:03] <pesco> bob2: What is?
[12:03] <bob2> if you have benchmarked it and shown it to actually be useful, you use pentium-builder
[12:03] <bob2> pesco: funny gcc options
[12:03] <bob2> pesco: it's very very rare that they actually help
[12:03] <ndazza> like what gentoo people use!
[12:03] <pesco> bob2: If you know what to do, they can make all the difference.
[12:04] <nalioth> alright now, no busting on folks' choices
[12:04] <magnon> -Ooo
[12:04] <nalioth> pesco: here ya go
[12:04] <bob2> pesco: really?  which of your applications are cpu-bound?
[12:04] <ndazza> s/hidea/hides
[12:04] <nalioth> pesco: when yer done yakkin with bob2
[12:04] <magnon> thoreauputic: I could eat popcorn and read funroll-loops.org. It's entertainment :)
[12:04] <pesco> bob2: Stop ranting. I have no idea. Which is why I have not compiled anything from source yet.
[12:04] <bob2> pesco: right, this is my point
[12:05] <thoreauputic> magnon: hahah - indeed that is a funny site :)
[12:05] <ndazza> magnon: gets abit old after the fifth read...
[12:05] <aethera> bleh
[12:05] <aethera> I am so tired
[12:05] <pesco> bob2: Yes, but there is no need to get it into me.
[12:05] <aethera> no more stroh rum for me
[12:05] <ndazza> magnon: but the forums it links to are fun :)
[12:05] <magnon> ndazza: there were updates some time
[12:05] <ndazza> magnon: oooh updates! is it as good as breezy? :D
[12:05] <magnon> :D
[12:05] <aethera> hehehehehehe
[12:06] <magnon> some of the quotes here are so gold
[12:06] <pesco> bob2: I was just wondering what the command was, so I know, when the time comes that one of my programs is running dead-slow and I just know it's because it doesn't use the altivec-instructions my Powerbook supports.
[12:06] <magnon> "I don't think that Debian can really compete with Gentoo. Sure it might be okay, but when it comes to dependencies, you probably are still going to have to get them all on your own. Or is there something like portage in the Debian world as well?"
[12:06] <bob2> pesco: pentium-builder + apt-get source
[12:06] <magnon> and "What other linux will let you have a vector optimized wordprocessor?" bahah.
[12:06] <thoreauputic> magnon: minus 2 : flamebait ;-)
[12:07] <magnon> that's probably his slashdot treshold to have found all these quotes :P
[12:07] <thoreauputic> heheh
[12:07] <mjr> magnon, well, any amd64 one, since SSE2 is used for floating point by default? ;)
[12:07] <aethera> smeg on warty is crazy
[12:08] <aethera> not one backport for it
[12:08] <aethera> :(
[12:08] <thoreauputic> aethera: yo don't need smeg on warty
[12:08] <nalioth> pesco: here ya go: "sudo apt-get build-dep <pkgname> && sudo apt-get -b source <pkgname>  && sudo dpkg -i <pkgname.deb>
[12:08] <aethera> thoreauputic: ?
[12:08] <nalioth> yes i'm ignorant
[12:08] <aethera> what can I use?
[12:08] <thoreauputic> aethera: you can edit menus in warty
[12:08] <pesco> nalioth: Thanks, that's what I wanted to know.
[12:08] <aethera> how :P
[12:09] <aethera> I could not get it to work
[12:09] <thoreauputic> aethera: just type applications:/// in nautlus, from memory
[12:09] <pesco> nalioth: Hm, somebody should build that into apt-get, don't you think?
[12:09] <thoreauputic> aethera: or right click the menu branch, and add
[12:09] <nalioth> pesco: i use it in an alias in my .bashrc
[12:09] <nalioth> pesco: suitably altered, of course
[12:10] <pesco> nalioth: Good suggestion.
[12:12] <lenhan> hehehe, I actually use gentoo and ubuntu
[12:14] <pesco> nalioth: I need to poke around in the source for some package to figure out how to get it to build. I.e. i don't want to use apt-get -b source. What do I have to do to build the .deb manually?
[12:14] <setite> yay who wants to help me figure out this wifi thing
[12:14] <pesco> (After I've found out any special --configure flags or so)
[12:15] <setite> im using the wiki but it doenst seem to help me configure the card
[12:15] <nalioth> pesco: visit the debian homepage and click on the left side about the development/developers
[12:15] <nalioth> pesco: plenty of boring stuff for your perusal
[12:16] <thoreauputic> pesco: if you just want to build a deb package for your own use you can install checkinstall and use it in place of "make install"
[12:16] <freeza> damnit
[12:16] <freeza> the new kernel broke my ati fglrx
[12:17] <aethera> welcome to the world of updates :)
[12:17] <Juerd> I upgraded from hoary to breezy, and now I have no direct rendering anymore. /dev/dri/ is empty. The graphics card is identified as "Intel Corp. Mobile Graphics Controller" in lspci.
[12:17] <Juerd> Any pointers?
[12:17] <freeza> does the fglrx on the hoary repos work?
[12:17] <knite> i wonder if i can take out my live CD while the system is running... i guess we'll see!
[12:18] <johnl> hahaha.  I rebooted my ubuntu box now xorg works (after breezy updates broke it).  that doesn't make sense to me.
[12:18] <nalioth> Juerd: wait until oct 13?
[12:18] <bob2> freeza: of course...
[12:18] <bob2> freeza: not with breezy's kernel, tho
[12:18] <Juerd> nalioth: Will waiting fix anything?
[12:18] <Juerd> nalioth: This could be a bug, and it'd be very nice to have it resolved before the release, you know...
[12:18] <nalioth> Juerd: breezy is under heavy bugfixing at the moment (and will be up until final release
[12:18] <freeza> what about the breezy repos one?
[12:18] <Juerd> nalioth: I see.
[12:19] <nalioth> Juerd: visit bugzilla.ubuntu.com and find it or report it
[12:19] <Juerd> nalioth: Will do. Thanks.
[12:19] <aethera> how can I restart the gnome panel?
[12:19] <nalioth> aethera: open a terminal and type "killall gnome-panel"
[12:19] <thoreauputic> aethera: killall gnome-panel (it should respawn)
[12:19] <Kalidarn> anyone know what the breezy backports are? i saw them the othr day and i cannot find them anywhere anymore.
[12:20] <dave_1974> hi all
[12:20] <Kalidarn> i know there were some
[12:20] <nalioth> Kalidarn: breezy hasnt released yet. why do you want backports?
[12:20] <Juerd> I need breezy, by the way, because my docking station's CD drive isn't recognised at all in hoary, and I had no time to figure out the details :)
[12:20] <Kalidarn> im using the preview
[12:20] <Kalidarn> i know there are some though.
[12:20] <Juerd> (I don't need direct rendering at all, so I can wait)
[12:20] <nalioth> Kalidarn: there are no backports for breezy yet
[12:20] <Kalidarn> its worked stabely enough for me.
[12:20] <Kalidarn> hmm then what was i using the other day, me thinks.
[12:21] <setite> hey someone told me the netgear ma111 works out of the box...
[12:21] <VoX> bob2: done that, still doesnt work :(
[12:21] <Kalidarn> i did a very evil thing, formatted ubuntu for Fedora Core 4 (which i shall never do again)
[12:21] <freeza> damn ati
[12:22] <setite> and i see it loading the prism driver when i dmesg... but its not showing on a iwconfig
[12:22] <deFrysk> Kalidarn, not evil , just dumb
[12:22] <Kalidarn> ;)
[12:22] <Kalidarn> i couldn't kill my x server as stupid as that sounds
[12:22] <Kalidarn> every attempt to do so came to a black screen with nothing
[12:22] <Kalidarn> then i read on the intel site that the majority of problems were reported with redhat
[12:23] <Kalidarn> so i was like "fck this" and i went back to ubuntu and now i feel so good again.
[12:23] <Kalidarn> after spending all day ofcourse :)
[12:23] <deFrysk> fedora=bloat-rpm
[12:24] <Kalidarn> are RPMs that bad
[12:24] <deFrysk> rpms are overdone packages
[12:25] <nalioth> we should take this to #ubuntu-offtopic for i see some bashing coming
[12:27] <nalioth> brownie17: go away, you are early
[12:27] <freeza> i need 3d help
[12:27] <brownie17> is anybody familiar with GAIM instant messenger? i accdidently clicked do not show on gnome panel, and now i can't make it come back
[12:27] <brownie17> nalioth: iam here on a different matter
[12:27] <nalioth> brownie17: i'm sure. lay it on us
[12:28] <brownie17> nalioth: read up, it's about GAIM
[12:28] <nalioth> brownie17: oh sorry, open a terminal and type "gaim --help"
[12:28] <setite> anyoen wanna tell me how to work my ma111 in ubuntu...
[12:28] <setite> i see this in dmesg
[12:28] <nalioth> setite: ubotu will
[12:28] <setite> prism2usb_init: prism2_usb.o: 0.2.1-pre25 Loaded
[12:28] <setite> prism2usb_init: dev_info is: prism2_usb
[12:28] <setite> nalioth the wifi wiki isnt helping
[12:29] <nalioth> setite: have you searched for "prism" on the wiki or forums?
[12:29] <brownie17> nalioth, wasn't anything about it in there
[12:29] <setite> im not using ndis.... someone said that this should work default
[12:30] <nalioth> setite: ask bob2 when he shows back up
[12:30] <nalioth> setite: and while you're waiting, check the wiki and forums for "prism"
[12:30] <setite> ive done that already
[12:30] <setite> whats the name of the gnome networking app
[12:31] <freeza> anyone know where to get ndiswrapper 64bit for 2.6.12?
[12:31] <nalioth> system > admin > networking
[12:31] <setite> thats for gnome is it not... im in kde
[12:32] <s4f3_m0d3> freeza, you compile it from source
[12:32] <nalioth> setite: try network-config (i have no clue)
[12:32] <bob2> setite: sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable
[12:33] <setite> whoa voodoo man
[12:33] <ndazza> there's a package called gnome-nettool
[12:33] <bob2> setite: sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_autojoin ssid=blah authtype=opensystem
[12:33] <s4f3_m0d3> freeza, its been awhile since i did it, but you basicly change the parts that say 'i386' to say 'amd64' and then compile it like normal
[12:33] <freeza> k
[12:33] <bob2> setite: then dhclient or whatever
[12:33] <setite> well i dont know the ssid
[12:33] <setite> im gonna be running ad hoc with my psp
[12:34] <setite> sudo: wlanctl-ng: command not found
[12:34] <freeza> ohh and also how do you add a dns server in the command line?
[12:34] <nalioth> bob2: will those commands work on ppc?
[12:35] <bob2> that's where they are from
[12:35] <bob2> setite: packages.ubuntu.com
[12:35] <nalioth> bob2: with a ma111 like setite has?
[12:35] <bob2> hint: linux-wlan-ng
[12:35] <setite> packages.ubuntu.com eh... hmm im assuming that is not quite the same as the repos
[12:35] <nalioth> setite: it is
[12:35] <nalioth> setite: the same
[12:35] <bob2> nalioth: the reason I know how to use it is because I had a ma-111 with my ibook
[12:35] <bob2> setite: it's a search tool for the repository
[12:36] <setite> what about this atmelwlandriver-tools
[12:36] <setite> and synaptic shows linux-wlan-ng-doc
[12:36] <bob2> you don't have an atmel device
[12:36] <nalioth> bob2: great! thanks
[12:36] <bob2> unless netgear changed the device but not the model
[12:36] <setite> well it says for usb/pci/pcmcia
[12:36] <bob2> setite: well, it's there
[12:36] <bob2> setite: you still don't have an atmel device
[12:36] <setite> oh i see what you mean
[12:36] <setite> yea.. brainfart..
[12:37] <setite> odd... am i missing a repo
[12:37] <setite> what am i missing that i dont have that tool on my repo...
[12:37] <setite> or is that why you sent me to the site
[12:37] <bob2> no
[12:38] <bob2> it's in main
[12:38] <setite> odd
[12:38] <setite> it doenst come up fo rme...
[12:38] <bob2> /etc/apt/sources.list, #flood
[12:39] <setite> you want me to flood me source list there
[12:39] <bob2> no
[12:39] <bob2> "#flood"
[12:39] <nalioth> setite: thats what #flood is for
[12:39] <p0windah> hola guys, I am using breezy and trying to get freenx working. but I cant connect to seveas(spelling) mirror
[12:39] <p0windah> any suggestions ?
[12:39] <setite> yea im asking if he wants me to flood mine or if he is gonna flood his... i knwo wha tthe room is for
[12:39] <nalioth> p0windah: seveas turns it off when he sleeps
[12:39] <bob2> setite: yours
[12:39] <nalioth> setite: you flood yours in #flood
[12:39] <p0windah> well I guess servers need to rest too :)
[12:39] <setite> ok flooding
[12:40] <aethera> hmmm
[12:40] <Seveas> that and I broke the repository :)
[12:40] <p0windah> ah ha!
[12:40] <Seveas> trying to get debpool to play nice with me
[12:41] <bob2> setite: apt-cache policy linux-wlan-ng, #flood
[12:41] <nalioth> danged -unregged looks like a salmon spawn
[12:41] <p0windah> the man types in his sleep :)
[12:41] <Seveas> hehe
[12:41] <Seveas> it's 12:14 here, I just woke up :)
[12:41] <setite> mine is real bad...
[12:41] <setite> im trying to get a bunch of 64bit repos... having no luck
[12:41] <deFrysk> Seveas, 1241 I presume ?
[12:41] <dave_1974> how can I configure xchat to join here?
[12:41] <p0windah> are there any other mirrors around for i386 I could use seveas ?
[12:42] <setite> gah i need to comment out the kubuntu repos fo rnow
[12:42] <Seveas> deFrysk, yeah :)
[12:42] <Seveas> p0windah, not that I know of
[12:42] <p0windah> I've tried the kanatix and debian ones, but they each have their own problems with breezy
[12:42] <nalioth> dave_1974: in your server settings, put your password in "server password" NOT nickserv password
[12:42] <Seveas> just wait a few hours, I'll fix the repo today
[12:42] <thoreauputic> in the server dialog, add your channels - and put your password in the server pass field
[12:42] <p0windah> sweet
[12:42] <thoreauputic> dave_1974: ^^
[12:43] <p0windah> seveas: my thanks, in advance
[12:43] <bob2> setite: well, it's in hoary/main
[12:43] <setite> im getting the documentation file.. jus tnot eh file
[12:43] <bob2> setite: you're using amd64?
[12:43] <setite> yea...
[12:43] <nalioth> thoreauputic: xchat is configured by ubuntu devs to automajically join here
[12:43] <setite> maybe its that stupid us... lemme remove that
[12:43] <bob2> there you go then
[12:43] <bob2> no, it's not built on amd64
[12:43] <setite> your kidding...
[12:43] <thoreauputic> nalioth: yes, I know
[12:43] <setite> fucking eh
[12:43] <aethera> is it just me or everytime I try and download something
[12:44] <aethera> firefox dies
[12:44] <setite> yay another strike for hte love 64bit
[12:44] <bob2> setite: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name "*prism2_usb*"
[12:44] <nalioth> setite: vulgaritys aren't helping fix your firefox
[12:44] <setite> nalioth - thanks... my firefox isny broken
[12:44] <transgress> okay
[12:44] <transgress> umm
[12:45] <p0windah> is plural vulgarities, ies or ys
[12:45] <thoreauputic> p0windah: ies
[12:45] <setite> /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-amd64-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/prism2/prism2_usb.ko
[12:45] <nalioth> setite: you can build them
[12:45] <transgress> i've tried after kopt= acpi=off and pci=noacpi ... but it is still doing the "check battery state" and hangs now that i've upgraded to breezy
[12:45] <transgress> is there anything else i can try
[12:45] <p0windah> thoreauputic: thanks
[12:45] <transgress> perhaps removing an rc*d file?
[12:46] <bob2> setite: sudo apt-get build-dep linux-wlan-ng ; apt-get source -b linux-wlan-ng
[12:46] <nalioth> setite: you'll end up with a .deb you can install and save
[12:46] <setite> imma post this on the forum... is that ok?
[12:46] <setite> ill credit you
[12:46] <scanwinder> has anyone got an imation disc stakka working in linux?
[12:47] <nalioth> setite: everyone knows bob2 is a very advanced AI and knows all
[12:47] <transgress> anyone have a suggestion?  i'd really like to get breezy to boot
[12:47] <bob2> transgress: apic=off might be worth a shot
[12:48] <bob2> transgress: don't forget to file a bug
[12:48] <dave_1974> tnx
[12:48] <transgress> i've tried after kopt= acpi=off and pci=noacpi ... but it is still doing the "check battery state" and hangs now that i've upgraded to breezy
[12:48] <transgress> apic?
[12:49] <aethera> brb
[12:49] <transgress> bob2: did you mean acpi?  or is that something different?
[12:50] <Gecko> Hello there. I was wondering if there is any mirrors of ubuntu currently in China? The torrent is extremely slow
[12:50] <setite> it failed bob
[12:50] <bob2> transgress: different
[12:50] <bob2> setite: "failed"?
[12:50] <setite> ya... ill flood the failure in #flood
[12:51] <kenl> i cant see anything after ubuntu loads into gnome
[12:51] <kenl> all i see is lines with colors
[12:51] <kenl> cant see the desktop properly
[12:51] <setite> should i fakeroor it
[12:51] <transgress> bob2: k rebooting now.
[12:51] <transgress> thanks
[12:53] <transgress> bob2: still nothing.  it still hangs at "Checking Battery State"
[12:54] <setite> bob2 my pc shut off.. i missed whatever you said
[12:54] <setite> could you please repost the commands...
[12:54] <setite> because of the crash konsole didnt save them
[12:54] <Hergiswi> blame canada
[12:55] <bob2> setite: look in the dir
[12:55] <setite> dir?
[12:56] <kenl> ls
[12:56] <setite> i dont recall where the program tried to make the file
[12:56] <bob2> setite: the directory you ran that in
[12:56] <bob2> since it already generated at least one dir
[12:56] <setite> hmmm ok
[12:56] <setite> ok
[12:56] <setite> i see a makefile among others
[12:56] <setite> shoudl i try to make it
[12:56] <bob2> no
[12:56] <bob2> up fro mthere
[12:57] <transgress> okay i added acpi=off to the kernel line and now it hangs at Starting hotplug subsystem
[12:57] <setite> there a configure.sh to
[12:57] <setite> up?
[12:57] <bob2> setite: in the directory above that
[12:57] <CrTr> how could i see the version of some probram ?
[12:57] <setite> i build it in my home
[12:58] <setite> oh i see what you mean
[12:58] <setite> haha
[12:58] <setite> it maid a few
[12:59] <setite> a .diff.gz, tar.gz, and the .deb is the foc file
[12:59] <setite> oh its doc + the file
[12:59] <setite> can you still tell me the commands again so i can post them on the forum... so other people can know this
[01:00] <setite> im posting the whole thing.. crediting you... so that people know how to do this without ndiswrapper
[01:00] <transgress> also what about this... i got it to boot in recovery mode... but i can't start gdm... error is "Fatal server error:  could not open default font 'fixed';
[01:00] <setite> because i looked and didnt see a suitable thread
[01:00] <transgress> bob2: any clue with that?
[01:01] <setite> nvm bob.. i have a log
[01:01] <after8> transgress> i got that too........ you dont have everything installed that it needs....
[01:02] <transgress> after8: k.  will a dist-upgrade get them if i try it again?  or do i need to hand grab some packages?
[01:02] <after8> transgress> try re updating, then re dist-upgrade & upgrade, and also dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-base
[01:02] <transgress> after8: k thanks
[01:02] <after8> transgress> dont hand grab, but its a little scary going breezy right now (scared me anyhow:)
[01:02] <transgress> yeah a lot of shit is downloading for xorg
[01:02] <transgress> after8: was a breeze (oh a pun!) on the laptop i'm using
[01:03] <after8> transgress> no end to the updates = good sign + frightening...
[01:03] <transgress> the difference between the two was this though
[01:03] <after8> lol :D bad one, but lol
[01:03] <transgress> laptop was strictly kubuntu...
[01:03] <aethera> eish firefox is unstable
[01:03] <transgress> and then after i dist-upgraded kubuntu, it worked fine... then i apt-got ubuntu
[01:03] <transgress> and it works fine
[01:04] <after8> transgress> yep me too... a strict kubuntu worked fine, but all the gnome stuff... seems both at once is more wobbly
[01:04] <transgress> yep
[01:04] <transgress> after8: you have a desktop that you did it with?
[01:04] <alturigo> I'm really desperate with some usb issue... if I have my wireless usb plugged when booting it won't work, message: device not accepting address 5, error -110, if I replug it it'll work fine, any ideas please?
[01:05] <transgress> alturigo: is your hotplug starting up?
[01:05] <after8> transgress> yep, but one freshly installed with kubuntu.. worked a treat (almost)
[01:05] <transgress> and what kind of wireless usb device
[01:05] <after8> i have hotplug hanging on boot with my sb modem too...
[01:05] <transgress> after8: well i'm having mine hang at Checking System Clock on the desktop i'm working on now
[01:05] <transgress> err
[01:06] <transgress> Checking battery
[01:06] <transgress> rather
[01:06] <transgress> not system clock
[01:06] <after8> i have to unplug it before boting, then reinstall each time ...
[01:06] <after8> transgress> yep me too... change console ;)
[01:06] <setite> hey bob what do i do after installign that
[01:06] <setite> the sudo wlanctl-ng wlan0 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable still errors
[01:06] <transgress> after8: change console?  eh?
[01:06] <after8> you can alt+F2 ?
[01:06] <transgress> oh
[01:06] <alturigo> transgress, yes hotplug works fine and its a prism device. it always fail to load at boot even if I change the module to use. if I do lsusb, the device won't appear
[01:06] <bob2> setite: you'd have to show us the error...
[01:06] <bob2> transgress: file a bug
[01:07] <setite> same as before sudo: wlanctl-ng: command not found
[01:07] <bob2> dude
[01:07] <bob2> come on
[01:07] <transgress> bob2: i will in a few... right now i'm most concerned with getting it to boot... as it is my work computer.  then i'll file a bug... then i'll jerk off... then i'll sleep.  i have priorities, you understand
[01:07] <bob2> did the linux-wlan-ng package build?
[01:07] <setite> yes
[01:08] <bob2> did you install it?
[01:08] <setite> yup
[01:08] <sentinel> I recently added another virtual host with postfix, and since then, it's been screwed
[01:08] <bob2> setite: dpkg -l linux-wlan-ng | tail -n1
[01:08] <sentinel> I did the usual postmap/whatnot things, and now all logins are rejected
[01:08] <setite> un  linux-wlan-ng  <none>         (no description available
[01:08] <setite> ill flood the install
[01:09] <bob2> then it's not installed
[01:09] <sentinel> "Fatal Error reading authentication information from client"
[01:09] <sentinel> anyone know how to solve the problem?
[01:09] <bob2> setite: you'd need to put your logs and postfix config on line
[01:09] <setite> ??
[01:10] <Seveas> I think he meant sentinel ;)
[01:10] <transgress> how... odd... linux-k7 was in my apt-cache after that last update... but i did an update and then a search about 5 minutes ago and it wasn't there.
[01:11] <transgress> someone else had that problem earlier tonight
[01:11] <dbzdeath> hey is it possible to get apt-get to make multiple connections when it downloads files from repositories?
[01:12] <bob2> no
[01:12] <after8> transgress> it keeps changing.... 80 new updates in 1/2 hour
[01:12] <setite> its pretty fast as it is
[01:12] <dbzdeath> dammit
[01:12] <transgress> after8: yeah i know.  gotta love release candidates
[01:12] <setite> i dont think they want to kill it with everybody having multiple connections
[01:12] <after8> hehe
[01:12] <bob2> setite: linux-wlan-ng-doc != linux-wlan-ng
[01:12] <transgress> but breezy is sexy enough to hump
[01:13] <tha_gamemaster> i'm having a bit of trouble using wget, i read the man a few times, how do i mirror an ftp that requires login and pass (yes i have that information)
[01:13] <setite> meaning? that that package is the full package
[01:13] <bob2> setite: it means they are completely different things
[01:13] <setite> thats the only deb
[01:13] <setite> and it said doc+
[01:14] <Seveas> tha_gamemaster, wget --mirror ftp://user:pass@site/
[01:14] <setite> inux-wlan-ng-doc_0.2.0+0.2.1pre21-1_all.deb so i thought it was doc 0.2.0 plus the ng 0.2.1...
[01:14] <tha_gamemaster> Seveas: thanks!
[01:14] <setite> well if its just the doc... then i don tknow what to do since it errors
[01:14] <setite> lemme look in these tarballs
[01:15] <bob2> setite: the _ seperates the components of the name
[01:15] <mustafu> installing from the 5.10 preview CD, is it relatively safe to dist-upgrade, I wonder?
[01:15] <bob2> packagename_version_architecture.deb
[01:15] <mustafu> afterwards, I mean
[01:16] <transgress> gah
[01:16] <Seveas> mustafu, yes it is
[01:16] <transgress> gdm still will not start
[01:16] <Seveas> transgress, hit it with a hammer :)
[01:16] <gorilla> Hi all, does anyone know the nut driver to use for proffice UPSs. The recommended software is winpower.
[01:16] <Seveas> (or post the error and xorg.conf online)
[01:16] <transgress> Seveas: awesome idea
[01:16] <transgress> after8: did you do anything else to fix that error?
[01:16] <setite> jesus
[01:17] <Seveas> setite, yes?
[01:17] <gorilla> Seveas, you are not jesus :-P
[01:17] <setite> you can claim the name if you can make a suitable 64bit deb of linux-wlan-ng
[01:18] <setite> im clearly incapable
[01:18] <bob2> it probably wouldn;t be hard
[01:18] <locomorto> Does anyone know of a light blue/blue theme (GTK/Metacity)?
[01:18] <bob2> but I don't have an amd64
[01:18] <Seveas> Sorry, I have no 64bit system
[01:18] <after8> transgress> can u get X running?
[01:18] <after8> without gdm?
[01:18] <nalioth> setite: i would, but i dont have an amd64 box
[01:18] <transgress> after8: no
[01:18] <er4z0r> ~hia
[01:18] <spiral> hi
[01:18] <Seveas> transgress, can you post the error and xorg.conf online
[01:19] <er4z0r> can you tell me how to configure which user get the mail for root?
[01:19] <Seveas> er4z0r, in /etc/aliases you can specify that
[01:19] <orangey> hey all!
[01:19] <transgress> also what about this... i got it to boot in recovery mode... but i can't start gdm... error is "Fatal server error:  could not open default font 'fixed';
[01:19] <er4z0r> Seveas: thanks
[01:19] <transgress> Seveas: ^
[01:19] <locomorto> hey orangey
[01:19] <orangey> what's the "latest" hoary-compatible kernel?
[01:19] <gorilla> uname -a
[01:19] <bob2> transgress: install x-window-system-core
[01:19] <osfameron> Aha!  Ubuntu doesn't set up my default printer paper to be A4.  I'm in Europe, we use A4, isn't it possible for setup to just magically figure that out?
[01:19] <bob2> orangey: 2.6.10
[01:20] <transgress> bob2: thanks
[01:20] <Seveas> transgress, right, backup your xorg.conf and do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:20] <orangey> bob2: how hard would it be for me to try to get 2.6.12 from breezy?
[01:20] <transgress> Seveas: just tried that
[01:20] <Seveas> orangey, that kernel has issues on hoary
[01:20] <tucoz> hi, I just updated my xorg drivers, and need to verify the resolution I am currently running at. How do I do this?
[01:20] <Seveas> transgress, did you do a full install? (ie: ubuntu-desktop installed)
[01:20] <orangey> I'm guessing that there are no 2.6.13 debs for ubuntu out there
[01:21] <orangey> Seveas: what sorts of issues?
[01:21] <transgress> Seveas: it was ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop that i dist-upgraded to breezy
[01:21] <setite> im removing the us. from my repos
[01:21] <locomorto> orangey: the 2.6.13 kernel is still quite buggy
[01:21] <nalioth> orangey: why do you want a testing kernel?
[01:21] <deFrysk> tucoz, system prefs screenreso
[01:21] <transgress> bob2: it has those and doesn't upgrade them
[01:21] <tucoz> deFrysk, thanks
[01:21] <Seveas> issues like not cooperating nicely with hal/dbus/pmount
[01:21] <locomorto> orangey: you should see .debs of it later on in universe (in breezy of course)
[01:21] <orangey> nalioth: well, I "need" 2.6.12.. and I can patch that with what I want.
[01:22] <after8> !tell tucoz about resolution
[01:22] <Seveas> orangey, you might as well consider the switch to breezy
[01:22] <orangey> but 2.6.13 would mean that I don't need the patches..
[01:22] <locomorto> orangey: then build your own kernel
[01:22] <tucoz> deFrysk, ok. I should have mentioned that I have the kubuntu-desktop installed
[01:22] <locomorto> orangey: what patches?
[01:22] <orangey> locomorto: snd_maestro3 patches
[01:22] <orangey> for volume control buttons on evo laptops
[01:22] <deFrysk> tucoz, open kcontrol and look for the sreen section
[01:23] <orangey> locomorto: http://bgoglin.free.fr/evoN600c.php#VolumeControl
[01:23] <deFrysk> tucoz, on #kubuntu they know more of this
[01:23] <tucoz> deFrysk, ok, I'll do that.
[01:23] <tucoz> deFrysk, probably. Didn't know that channel existed. Thanks
[01:23] <bob2> orangey: hard
[01:23] <locomorto> orangey: so you don't get events at all when you press the keys (check using xev (in console))
[01:23] <setite> bob2 shoudl i just force the 32
[01:24] <orangey> locomorto: it's a long-long standing problem.. they're not "keys", they're acpi events
[01:24] <locomorto> ic
[01:24] <bob2> setite: what does "force the 32" mean?
[01:24] <bob2> setite: if you mean dpkg --force-arch linux-wlan-ng_i386, no
[01:24] <setite> wlanctl-ng: Function not implemented
[01:24] <setite> bob2 i forced the 32bit version to install.. now my error is
[01:24] <setite> wlanctl-ng: Function not implemented
[01:24] <bob2> that's really not going to work
[01:25] <setite> oh well i tried
[01:25] <nalioth> Seveas: they're running like salmon in -unregged
[01:25] <setite> ill check the xlink forums
[01:25] <transgress> should anything happen when i do dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-base ?  because somethings runs for a split second then drops me back to a shell no questions asked
[01:26] <orangey> incidentally, how far away are we from breezy?
[01:26] <transgress> years
[01:26] <deFrysk> orangey, 13 oct away
[01:26] <nalioth> oct 13 officially
[01:26] <Seveas> transgress, check whether the -desktop packages are still installed
[01:26] <er4z0r> Seveas: do you know how it is possible to forward rootmail to a remote system?
[01:26] <Seveas> dist-upgrade removed them on my system :)
[01:26] <Seveas> root: someone@someplace.else
[01:26] <Seveas> (in /etc/aliases(
[01:26] <transgress> Seveas: yes they are
[01:27] <orangey> woah!! that's awesome.
[01:27] <gorilla> *BUMP* does anyone know the nut driver to use for proffice UPSs. The recommended software is winpower.
[01:27] <setite> ok see you guys later... guess even for interfacing my psp... my luck will be better in windozwe
[01:27] <er4z0r> Seveas: ok, now that was to obvious ;)
[01:27] <p0windah> mgs4 trailer... wooo
[01:27] <p0windah> maybe even a wooo!
[01:28] <orangey> so, y'all recommend the move to breezy now?
[01:28] <orangey> or wait?
[01:28] <Seveas> orangey, only for the daring :)
[01:28] <transgress> orangey: what do you have installed?  ubuntu-desktop?  kubuntu-desktop?
[01:28] <orangey> incidentally, I'm a kubuntu user.
[01:28] <Seveas> and the ones with big download pipes :)
[01:28] <transgress> orangey: only?
[01:28] <orangey> transgress: pretty much.. I think there may be some ubuntu-base in there
[01:28] <transgress> orangey: if you only have kubuntu-desktop, it'll go over like a breeze
[01:29] <transgress> if you have both... it doesn't go so well
[01:29] <orangey> transgress: hurricane-force breeze?
[01:29] <transgress> ha
[01:29] <orangey> transgress: and if only ubuntu-desktop?
[01:29] <transgress> haven't done that one
[01:30] <transgress> but i've done a mix on two systems, and it has acted screwy both times
[01:30] <orangey> transgress: ok.. but we're really close to october 13..
[01:30] <transgress> and i've done kubuntu only on two, plus after8 said his kubuntu only worked grand
[01:30] <orangey> is it that lots of the work will happen in the next month?
[01:30] <transgress> on this box i'm talking with i did a dist-upgrade w/ kubuntu only, then did an aptitude install ubuntu-desktop afterwards and it works great
[01:31] <transgress> so... i wonder with windoze64 if flash will compile a 64bit version anytime soon...
[01:31] <deFrysk> transgress, ask macromedia
[01:32] <transgress> maybe i will
[01:32] <transgress> well adobe now
[01:32] <orangey> transgress: ubuntu-desktop is half there..
[01:32] <deFrysk> to whom it may concern
[01:32] <orangey> transgress: I'll let you know how it goes, but I'll likely wait a week or two before upgrading.. : )
[01:33] <Adross> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:33] <Adross> oops, forget the slash
[01:33] <transgress> i think i may just burn a breezy disc and clean install on my desktop...
[01:33] <transgress> this is becoming a real pain trying to fix
[01:33] <transgress> and i'm tired
[01:34] <D13GU__> hi all! how to install sshd in ubuntu?
[01:34] <nalioth> D13GU__: install "openssh-server"
[01:34] <cr4sher> yeay I'm In
[01:34] <D13GU__> i use aptitude install ssh
[01:34] <cr4sher> so whats this changes you guyz..?
[01:34] <mustafu> aptitude = ?
[01:34] <nalioth> D13GU__: then aptitude install openssh-server
[01:34] <D13GU__> ok
[01:35] <nalioth> cr4sher: channel is secured against spambots
[01:35] <jlorn> can anyone tell which file I need to edit to change my screen resolution
[01:35] <nalioth> mustafu: synaptic and aptitude are frontends for apt-get
[01:35] <transgress> jlorn: xorg.conf
[01:35] <Cr4Sh_> ok
[01:35] <deFrysk> jlorn, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:35] <transgress> jlorn: /etc/X11/xorg.conf to be exact
[01:35] <jlorn> thank you
[01:36] <D13GU__> nalioth, the aptitude install ssh have problems?
[01:36] <Cr4Sh_> hey giuz anyone!1 i need help with Video playback
[01:36] <transgress> i need slee
[01:36] <transgress> p
[01:36] <transgress> later guys
[01:36] <after8> gd luck transgress ;)
[01:36] <Cr4Sh_> I have installed allt eh needed codecs form the web.. but still dont work..
[01:36] <Cr4Sh_> can someone give me the name of good DVD playback softwae and codedc
[01:37] <icewt> vlc
[01:37] <Seveaz> ok, so network-manager sucks....
[01:38] <rob^> anyone know where webmin is installed to via apt-get?
[01:38] <abusado> how to get a Compiler for Ubuntu like GCC??
[01:38] <Seveaz> abusado, apt-get install build-essential
[01:40] <ukh> is there such a thing as a "Ubuntu Annoyances Explained for Debian Morons"?  I could use one.
[01:40] <p0windah> I can do that for you
[01:42] <freeza>  can 3 versions of gcc exist in the same system?
[01:42] <abusado> how to get a Compiler for Ubuntu like GCC?? using the package manager?
[01:42] <Whistler> is ati drivers finnaly working wit breezy?
[01:42] <nalioth> freeza: yes they can
[01:43] <nalioth> abusado: install "build-essential"
[01:43] <freeza> cuz breezy repos installed gcc4
[01:43] <freeza> my ati is broken
[01:43] <freeza> it was working before i compiled breezy kernel
[01:44] <Angel-SL> hi
[01:44] <Angel-SL> i cant seem to find curses
[01:44] <Angel-SL> in apt-get
[01:45] <after8> Angel-SL> type apt-cache search ncurses...  theres a ncurses dev package you'll see, and youll get its name that way.
[01:46] <deFrysk> apt-cache search libncurses would shorten the list a bit
[01:47] <gabaug> if I want to change the permissions on all the .php files in a deep directory structure with one command, can I do something like chmod -R g-w */**/*.php ?
[01:47] <bob2> if you have a decent shell, yes
[01:47] <gabaug> great, thanks
[01:48] <gabaug> excellent
[01:48] <bob2> or find ./ -name "*.php" -type f -print0 | xargs -0 chmod g-w
[01:48] <bob2> no need for -R, tho
[01:48] <wezzer> !beagle
[01:48] <ubotu> I heard beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto
[01:51] <prolsd> !tell prolsd winmac_fstab
[01:51] <prolsd> !tell prolsd NTFS
[01:51] <prolsd> hm, wtf
[01:51] <prolsd> :D
[01:52] <prolsd> !tell prolsd mount
[01:52] <mustafu> !tell prolsd about mountwindows
[01:52] <prolsd> hehe, cheers.
[01:58] <gabaug> how can I figure out what runlevel I'm at?
[01:58] <bob2> you're in 2
[01:58] <bob2> which is the same as 3
[01:58] <bob2> and 4
[01:58] <bob2> and 5
[01:59] <CaiN_SA> type : runlevel
[01:59] <gabaug> thank you
[01:59] <Hoxzer> N 2 :O
[01:59] <bob2> tho, if you're asking because you're trying to install nvidia drivers, you're on the wwrong track
[02:00] <gabaug> is the best way to add services (that have init.d entries) to start automatically on boot to go old school and symlink them in?
[02:00] <CaiN_SA> lol bob2
[02:00] <gabaug> bob2: nope, no nvidia here. no X, in fact
[02:00] <bob2> use update-rc.d
[02:01] <insta> Can anyone help me with the client : server model for getting several kubuntu workstations to authenticate against a single ubuntu-server "login server" ?
[02:01] <bob2> LDAP is what you want
[02:02] <gabaug> bob2: thanks so much...you're very patient
[02:02] <nalioth> that bob2 is a machine.....
[02:02] <insta> bob2: can I configure LDAP to override the native Linux login?
[02:03] <insta> #debian was very unhelpful :(
[02:03] <bob2> insta: of course
[02:03] <bob2> #debian has a right to be unhelpful if you're not actually using Debian
[02:03] <arsch> hi
[02:04] <sentinel> heh, I managed to sort that problem by tinkering around for a bit... but now I seem to have a different one... /etc/resolv.conf seems to keep getting changed to "search\nnameserver 192.168.0.1"
[02:04] <arsch> ive got a asus laptop
[02:04] <bob2> sentinel: that would be ytour dhcp server
[02:04] <insta> bob2: can the same LDAP setup also be used to authenticate windows workstations in the same manner, using the same usernames and passwords?
[02:04] <arsch> it has fn function keys too, but when i try to adjust the brightness, it does work, but theres a sort of lag, a time delay till the laptop changes the light
[02:04] <nalioth> arsch: just ask your question
[02:04] <bob2> insta: yes
[02:05] <sentinel> bob2: would I be able to sort the problem by removing global write permissions? heh
[02:06] <bob2> sentinel: that seems somewhat silly
[02:06] <bob2> sentinel: simplest is to fix your dhcp server
[02:06] <bob2> failing that, configure your dhcp client to ignore it
[02:06] <arsch> anybody got an ide?
[02:06] <sentinel> bob2: the DHCP server doesn't need to be fixed
[02:06] <arsch> idea
[02:07] <bob2> sentinel: then why is it giving you incorrect values?
[02:07] <bob2> insta: http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:rro7zxKsh6AJ:www.bayour.com/LDAPv3-HOWTO.html+debian+samba+turbo+ldap+kerberos+howto&hl=en&client=firefox-a
[02:08] <sentinel> bob2: no idea, it assumes my router is my nameserver
[02:08] <bob2> ...
[02:08] <bob2> then it's broken
[02:09] <bob2> anyway, /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[02:09] <CaiN_SA> bob2, you hope insta doesnt ask to much
[02:09] <CaiN_SA> becoz explaining full ldap would be a major pain
[02:10] <bob2> yes, hence pointing him/her at a book )
[02:10] <CaiN_SA> hehe
[02:11] <arsch> nobody able to help me?
[02:11] <CaiN_SA> arsch, what you need help with ?
[02:11] <freeza> where does synaptic store the packages it downloads?
[02:11] <aftertaf> freeza> /var/cache/apt/archive
[02:11] <arsch> ive got a asus laptop, it has fn function keys too, but when i try to adjust the brightness, it does work, but theres a sort of lag, a time delay till the laptop changes the light
[02:11] <CaiN_SA>  /var/cache/apt/archive
[02:12] <sentinel> ty for the help anyway :)
[02:12] <aftertaf> arsch> wazzup ?
[02:12] <apokryphos> archives/ ;-)
[02:12] <arsch> look up, there it is
[02:12] <bob2> wtf
[02:12] <CaiN_SA> bob2, how i reconfigure xorg again ?
[02:12] <bob2> I told sentinel 2 ways to fix the problem
[02:12] <freeza> ok thanks
[02:12] <aftertaf> arsch> look up what?
[02:12] <bob2> what  a waste of time
[02:12] <apokryphos> CaiN_SA: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:12] <CaiN_SA> thx
[02:12] <bob2> CaiN_SA: sudo dpkg-reconfgigure xserver-xorg
[02:12] <arsch> here it is: ive got a asus laptop, it has fn function keys too, but when i try to adjust the brightness, it does work, but theres a sort of lag, a time delay till the laptop changes the light
[02:13] <bob2> arsch: then file a bug
[02:13] <aftertaf> bob2> :)
[02:13] <arsch> no solution?
[02:13] <bob2> arsch: the solution is to file a bug
[02:13] <bob2> how many ACPI experts do you think are here now?
[02:13] <aftertaf> or check your warranty...
[02:14] <arsch> i dont know, i just thought you could help me
[02:14] <arsch> man
[02:14] <abusado> how can i install WINE using PACKAGE MANAGER?
[02:14] <arsch> its a ubuntu problem, it works under windows
[02:14] <freeza> acpi doesnt work on my crap either and i just updated to breezy kernel
[02:14] <arsch> i just wanted to ask if anybody here knows a solution
[02:14] <aftertaf> abusado> find wine in package manager, click on it, the apply!
[02:14] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell abusado about wine
[02:15] <bob2> arsch: so, file a bug so it can be fixed
[02:15] <abusado> i cant find WINE in the package manager
[02:15] <CaiN_SA> bob2, any way of making that reconfigure not asking anything like when you install ?
[02:15] <arsch> only because you cant help me?
[02:15] <arsch> ever thought about other people?
[02:15] <aftertaf> CaiN_SA> normally it uses your answers from last time....
[02:16] <CaiN_SA> aftertaf, i dont want it to ask, the installer doesnt aks :)
[02:16] <bob2> arsch: wtf
[02:16] <aftertaf> arsch> it is most likely because there is a bug in the acpi
[02:16] <bob2> arsch: stop whining and file a bug so a kernel hacker can fix it
[02:16] <arsch> shut up
[02:16] <aftertaf> arsch> if you file abug, you'll help other people
[02:17] <CaiN_SA> lol
[02:17] <CaiN_SA> idiot
[02:17] <bob2> holy hell
[02:17] <bob2> what is wrong with people
[02:17] <CaiN_SA> aftertaf, any ideas
[02:17] <aftertaf> arsch> if you leave, you'll help us !
[02:17] <bob2> CaiN_SA: dpkg-reconfigure -phigh
[02:17] <aftertaf> bob2> wtf indeed!!!!
[02:17] <CaiN_SA> bob2, i promise you he cant even use windos
[02:17] <CaiN_SA> thx bob
[02:18] <aftertaf> you win some , you lose some.....
[02:19] <aftertaf> Next.......... :D
[02:20] <alice|wl_> hello, triing to connect to a wlan with wep key, the tool asks me for a passphrase I think but I only have the key, where can I set it ?
[02:22] <CaiN_SA> bob2, thx for all your help
[02:23] <gabberman> Anyone can help with Ubuntu sound issues?
[02:23] <CaiN_SA> lol
[02:23] <gabberman> :)
[02:23] <gabberman> ?
[02:23] <CaiN_SA> hehe
[02:23] <CaiN_SA> just ask dude, dont ask if you can ask
[02:24] <gabberman> well im uber noob......
[02:24] <gabberman> never used linux b4
[02:24] <gabberman> ever
[02:24] <gabberman> it cant find my soundcard
[02:24] <CaiN_SA> lots of you out there
[02:24] <CaiN_SA> what soundcard do you have ?
[02:24] <gabberman> i dont even know what sound card I have...so I dont know what im looking for
[02:24] <CaiN_SA> :/
[02:24] <gabberman> found this PC in a shed
[02:24] <gabberman> put Ubuntu OS on it
[02:24] <CaiN_SA> you still have windows on ?
[02:24] <gabberman> nope
[02:25] <CaiN_SA> ok
[02:25] <gabberman> formatted when ubuntu put on..
[02:25] <CaiN_SA> open termanel
[02:25] <gabberman> sound card worked under 95 tho..
[02:25] <gabberman> term open
[02:25] <CaiN_SA> say : sudo lspci
[02:25] <gabberman> 1 sec
[02:25] <CaiN_SA> and paste in my pvt
[02:25] <CaiN_SA> not in channel
[02:26] <alice|wl_> nobody for the wep -key ?
[02:27] <johnl> alice|wl_, I'm not sure, but I think this might be a bug and it's fixed in the upcoming breezy release
[02:27] <johnl> breezy has a box to select key or passphrase
[02:28] <osfameron> I use wifi_radar, which is just about OK
[02:28] <osfameron> will breezy have a nice VPN client?
[02:29] <bob2> blah vpn
[02:30] <ompaul> osfameron, sudo apt-get install openvpn will get you the best one I know
[02:30] <bob2> do you mean "support for various random vpns systems" or "support for windows vpns"?
[02:30] <osfameron> ompaul: cool, thanks
[02:30] <sambagirl> when i try to login using sharing it requests a pw i dont recall giving a pw.
[02:30] <mjr> (it would be nice if ubuntu got support for opportunistic ipsec, but for now, openvpn is good :)
[02:30] <p0windah> I know linux uses firewall technology
[02:30] <ompaul> p0windah, can use if you need to
[02:32] <freeza> ok i have the smart battery kernel patch
[02:32] <freeza> but how do you patch a kernel?
[02:32] <frans-th> anyone have ubuntu logo very very big for my ubuntu website
[02:33] <Kagome_006> help!
[02:33] <Kagome_006> lol
[02:33] <bob2> frans-th: the ubuntu logo is trademarked
[02:33] <CaiN_SA> bob2, help here quick gabberman has isa soundcard
[02:33] <ompaul> frans-th, you can get all the info you need here: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy/view?searchterm=logo
[02:33] <CaiN_SA> and its not working
[02:33] <freeza> where can i get cool tux screensavers for gnome?
[02:34] <freeza> or
[02:34] <freeza> tux backgrounds
[02:34] <Kagome_006> how do i configure my browser to dail
[02:34] <Kagome_006> up
[02:34] <frans-th> bob2: trademarked? what is that mean, we cannot use it?
[02:34] <ompaul> freeza, not to be too blunt but if you fire up a browser click on image and search for Tux
[02:34] <frans-th> bob2: i have a ubuntu.or.id, the ubuntu user group
[02:34] <bob2> frans-th: I don't know, it depends
[02:35] <bob2> I don't do ISA
[02:35] <Kagome_006> linux rocks!
[02:35] <frans-th> bob: what is the restricted of ubuntu ?
[02:35] <CaiN_SA> lol bob2
[02:35] <ompaul> frans-th, read the trademark doc - it says what you have to do to use it - and some of what you can't do
[02:35] <osfameron> ompaul: openvpn looks very, um, comprehensive... but much better documented than pptp/ppoe manpages
[02:36] <bopper> how do i configure my browser to use dial up?
[02:36] <ompaul> pptp is a broken protocol, or at least was the last time I looked
[02:36] <bopper> .......
[02:36] <bopper> is there a help site for..
[02:36] <bopper> how do i configure my browser to use dial up?
[02:36] <bob2> bopper: your browser does't know or care about your internet connection
[02:36] <bob2> bopper: wiki.ubuntu.com/DialUpModemHowto
[02:37] <johnl> hey, did anyone know xorg uses $HOME/xorg.conf if it finds it?  THAT (me not noticing it) has caused me big headaches troubleshooting this udev problem
[02:37] <Kagome_006> i have that
[02:37] <bob2> frans-th: depends what you want to do with it
[02:37] <athlon> has anyone tried opensuse ? I like it's way of customizing the menu in DEs and WMs, wonder if breezy is going to have something similar to it
[02:37] <bob2> frans-th: info@canonical.com will be able to help you
[02:37] <sambagirl> is there a way to mount the various workstations you have added to sharing? i used ip addresses and nfs or nsf whatever it was.
[02:37] <sambagirl> i want them on my desktop how i do this?
[02:38] <ompaul> Kagome_006, changing your name like that just added up to 7 lines to your query which could have been done in one [yeah I should shut up now] 
[02:38] <apokryphos> hi frans-th :). How's all the stuff going?
[02:38] <Kagome_006> stfu
[02:38] <frans-th> apokryphos: i am managing ubuntu-id@lists.ubuntu.com :)
[02:39] <apokryphos> frans-th: excellent =). What about the other server stuff?
[02:39] <Kagome_006> :P
[02:40] <frans-th> apkoryphos: not arrive yet, but we buy it next week :)
[02:41] <Belutz> frans-th: if we could managed the LoCo team, we could get the www.ubuntu-id.org domain, if i'm not mistaken
[02:41] <vijay> hi need some help
[02:41] <ompaul> !tell vijay about ask
[02:41] <vijay> just loaded ubuntu have an atheros based wifi card
[02:41] <p0windah> vijay: dont we all, dont we all
[02:41] <CJunky> hi all
[02:42] <ompaul> vijay, read the notice that ubotu messaged you  :)
[02:42] <vijay> yea i have an atheros based card i need to activate wireless i need help on that i am a newbie to linux
[02:43] <ThePyromaniac> anyone know where the configuration settings are for the main menu?
[02:43] <ThePyromaniac> Smeg is lame and it wont save any changes i make
[02:43] <thoreauputic> ThePyromaniac: odd, it seems to work OK for most people
[02:44] <ThePyromaniac> well i made an extra folder, and it went into main appliactions, not into games
[02:44] <ThePyromaniac> i cant move or update the folder
[02:44] <ThePyromaniac> and i cant move programs into subfolders
[02:44] <apokryphos> frans-th: excellent! Good to hear
[02:44] <Seveas> ThePyromaniac, then file a bug..
[02:44] <ThePyromaniac> i cant delete them either
[02:44] <ThePyromaniac> good plan... ^^
[02:44] <ThePyromaniac> where to?
[02:44] <apokryphos> frans-th: still not using <tab> to auto-complete nicknames on here? ;-)
[02:45] <apokryphos> ThePyromaniac: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[02:45] <ThePyromaniac> thanks guys, cya
[02:45] <frans-th> apokryphos: hehe, thx for the tips :P
[02:46] <vijay> yea i have an atheros based card i need to activate wireless i need help on that i am a newbie to linux
[02:46] <smaugslayer> anyone running breezy?  stable?  worth upgrading?  thx
[02:46] <aftertaf> smaugslayer> depends on your courage, and your luck...
[02:46] <CJunky> can someone help me? i have some trouble with my toshiba satellite pro 4200...
[02:47] <smaugslayer> ;)
[02:47] <CaiN_SA> yes it is im my opinion
[02:47] <CaiN_SA> just dont complain if something if breezy doesnt work
[02:47] <avanspronsen> smaugslayer: I have been running breezy for at least a month, no real problems, pretty vanilla system though
[02:47] <apokryphos> Or be prepared to file some bugs if need be
[02:47] <mdeboer> Hello
[02:47] <smaugslayer> thx guys
[02:47] <apokryphos> hi mdeboer
[02:48] <vijay> how can i modify the value of CONFIG_NET_WIRELESS in the kernel?
[02:48] <mdeboer> I was wondering if there is any chance that kernel 2.6.13 will make it into Breezy
[02:48] <ompaul> vijay, all I can do is point you to http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/ which according to the people who make the cards may help, I only do this because it may provide info that you can then use with modprobe
[02:48] <Seveas> mdeboer, there is none
[02:48] <catfox> OT i know, but does anyone know how much it costs to run a desktop pc 24/7 ?
[02:48] <Red_Bullet> can you help me
[02:48] <apokryphos> mdeboer: it only just came out!
[02:48] <ompaul> vijay, sorry just noticed your new to this
[02:49] <ompaul> !tell vijay about wireless
[02:49] <p0windah> running pc 24/7 is cheaper than air/con
[02:49] <ompaul> vijay, that page that ubotu just send you in a message may help
[02:49] <Red_Bullet> i start btdownloadcurses and bittornado can't connect it isn't start download it just connecting seeders :(( help me
[02:49] <mdeboer> apokryphos: so did gnome 2.12 :-)
[02:49] <p0windah> we run 5 pc's here 24/7 and its about half the cost of running aircon for 1/2 the day
[02:49] <p0windah> love those numbers...
[02:49] <apokryphos> mdeboer: what was the release date for that?
[02:50] <bob2> gnome 2.12 came out the day before breezy preview
[02:50] <ompaul> apokryphos, a couple of days ago before the preview by a day or two
[02:50] <Red_Bullet> i start btdownloadcurses and bittornado can't connect it isn't start download it just connecting seeders :(( help me
[02:51] <bob2> gnome is a very special case
[02:51] <mollepollekolle> The ubuntu installation program can't find any of my three partitions. What should I do to make ubuntu find any one of them?
[02:51] <apokryphos> wow, interesting.
[02:51] <apokryphos> They must be rushed off their feet
[02:51] <aftertaf> mollepollekolle> IDE or SATA disks?
[02:51] <mollepollekolle> IDE
[02:51] <mdeboer> Anyway, I don't mind packaging 2.6.13 myself, but I am wondering what ubuntu-specific changes where made to the 2.6.12 kernel, with userland implications, that might be a show-stopper when using 2.6.13 with breezy
[02:52] <aftertaf> mollepollekolle> do you have an error message?
[02:52] <bob2> mdeboer: what does 2.6.13 have that 2.6.12 does not?
[02:52] <mollepollekolle> Nope, only a bunch of questionmarks
[02:52] <bob2> apokryphos: gnome does regular beta tarball releases; ubuntu includes them in the development versiom, so the final release is not much of a change
[02:52] <aftertaf> mollepollekolle> can it see a partition to install to?
[02:52] <mollepollekolle> No
[02:53] <apokryphos> bob2: I see. Similar to kde
[02:53] <aftertaf> mollepollekolle> i'd suggest you check your install CD, and double check your disks work/are present in the BIOS
[02:53] <mdeboer> bob2: it seems that it solve quite a few hardware related problems (typically laptops), but for me, the main reason would be to be able to run a low latency kernel
[02:53] <mdeboer> bob2: as in: 2.6.13 + latest ingo molnar realtime-preempt patch
[02:54] <bob2> 2.6.12 has lots of acpi patches backported
[02:54] <mollepollekolle> They all work on, since i can boot win xp on it and use all three of them there.
[02:54] <bob2> tho it doesn't matter; if you need low latency, you need a non-ubuntu kernel anyway
[02:54] <mdeboer> bob2: and this would be much easier if 2.6.13 comes properly packaged with breezy
[02:54] <aftertaf> then check your CD for errors
[02:55] <mollepollekolle> How?
[02:55] <mdeboer> bob2: yes, but i rather patch an official ubuntu kernel, than having to ubuntuize a vanilla kernel first
[02:56] <aftertaf> mollepollekolle> that, i dont actually know.... sorry
[02:57] <march> hello!!
[03:00] <march> hi!!
[03:00] <Whistler> hello
[03:00] <vijay>  hi i have an ASUS machine on which ubuntu is installed my lspci gives this output
[03:00] <vijay> vijay 0000:00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications, Inc.: Unknown device 0 01a (rev 01)
[03:00] <vijay> vijay will madwifi work with this can anyone please guide me a ifconfig ath0 states no device found
[03:05] <Whistler> anybody had succeeded to run ati drivers on breezy?
[03:08] <Whistler> anybody had succeeded to run ati drivers on breezy?
[03:08] <icc7> hello guys!!
[03:08] <bob2> Whistler: if it doesn't work for you, file a bug if no one else has
[03:09] <icc7> can anyone help me with my wine tools??
[03:09] <icc7> i get this error "Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[03:09] <icc7> Edit the Wine configuration file"
[03:10] <Whistler> bob2 emm how do i do that?
[03:10] <steven_Laptop> hello everyone
[03:10] <occy> bob2, Good morning, I am having serious troubles since I tried to follow this "howto":  http://kerneltrap.org/node/5414   I have since nuked everything and re-installed, checked the hard drive and it's fine.  my internal laptops wireless card keeps "locking up" on me though.  This is default Hoary simply updated, I haven't used that URL's stuff again since the re-install.
[03:10] <occy> bob2, my question is this:
[03:10] <samu2> i had a problem that somebody recommended me to do a "shutdown -r -F now" to fsck my rootfs
[03:10] <samu2> but then i got this:
[03:11] <{cYanide}> hi
[03:11] <occy> bob2, do you think that previous firmwire upgrade could have effected the wireless card in such a way that it isn't working properly?
[03:11] <bob2> Whistler: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[03:11] <{cYanide}> er how can i set a folder and its entire contents to 777?
[03:11] <occy> bob2, even though I'm back to the old firmware revision that came with Ubuntu that worked fine for months with no problems?
[03:11] <Emiel> can anybody help me with the hotplug problem? Ubuntu doesn't start
[03:11] <thoreauputic> {cYanide}: not recommended...
[03:11] <icc7> can anyone help me with my wine tools??
[03:11] <marcin_ant> hi all
[03:11] <icc7> i get this error "Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[03:11] <{cYanide}> its just a game
[03:11] <lonewolff> {cYanide}: chmod -R 777 <foldername> if you are really sure you want to do that
[03:11] <icc7> Edit the Wine configuration file"
[03:12] <marcin_ant> short question - is there a package with java 1.5 for breezy?
[03:12] <samu2> unexpected inconsistency : run fsck manually
[03:12] <bob2> occy: it's possible, but I'd think unlikely
[03:12] <samu2> so, how do i run fsck manually then?
[03:12] <bob2> occy: this is wit hthe hoary driver?
[03:12] <steven_Laptop> Does anyone to how to set the time it scans for network configure at boot up? I want it not to scan more the 3 sec..?
[03:12] <occy> bob2, by locking up, I simply mean it stops working, but everything else on the laptop functions perfectly.  It's as if it just dies and says... "OK, I no longer want to be a wireless card."
[03:13] <Whistler> is there any place to talk about breezy?
[03:13] <occy> bob2, yessir
[03:13] <bob2> occy: nothing in dmesg?
[03:13] <bob2> Whistler: here
[03:13] <occy> bob2, not a single thing.
[03:13] <icc7> can anyone help me with my wine tools??
[03:13] <Whistler> k
[03:13] <bob2> steven_Laptop: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[03:13] <icc7> i get this error "Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[03:13] <icc7> can anyone help me with my wine tools??
[03:13] <bob2> icc7: no need to ask over and over
[03:13] <Emiel> Can anybody help me with the hotplug problem? Ubuntu doesn't start
[03:13] <occy> oh wait
[03:13] <knutp> anybody knows the minimum requirment to run ubunto with gnome??? Pentium ??? 200 MHz   with 64 MB will work???        Knoppix live at least doen since it needs 128 MB or more.
[03:13] <icc7> i dont get any answer
[03:13] <occy> bob2, I'm sorry, I do see something now.  hang on, let me pastebin this.
[03:14] <bob2> Emiel: you need to be more specific
[03:14] <Whistler> so anybody managed to succesfully install and use ati radeon drivers?(On breezy)
[03:14] <bob2> icc7: yes, presumably because no one knows
[03:14] <Emiel> K
[03:14] <thoreauputic> knutp: that spec needs a custom install
[03:14] <bob2> knutp: 64MB will not be any fun at all with gnome
[03:15] <occy> bob2, http://pastebin.com/365451    the card is an ipw2200
[03:15] <icc7> the wine tools menu has appeared but the menu dont seem to have any function
[03:15] <thoreauputic> knutp: you can do a "server" install then apt-get a light window manager etc
[03:15] <occy> ipw2200: Start IPW Error Log Dump:
[03:15] <{cYanide}> erm , does anyone use cedega here
[03:15] <knutp> just I have an old compaq deskpro 6000 - Pentium 200 MMX + 64 RAM ;( .......    JUst as desktop for surfing and emailing
[03:15] <thoreauputic> knutp: but you need to be familiar with apt to do it
[03:15] <Emiel> I just installed ubuntu . It stop on the startup with Starting hotplug subsystem
[03:15] <steven_Laptop> bob2, thanks again quick ? I dont want to trash this what im I looking for to edit timeout?
[03:15] <icc7> everytime i click on any of the options it gives me the error Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[03:16] <bob2> occy: sure you changed the firmware baco correctly?
[03:16] <thoreauputic> knutp: that's my old box's specs and I rub hoary on it with fluxbox and sylpheed etc
[03:16] <occy> bob2, yes, because I nuked the whole installation.
[03:16] <occy> bob2, I nuked the laptop, and re-installed
[03:16] <knutp> huff thoreauputic ..... think Il ive up ....... only brain enought to start Linux-live-CD .. hahhaha
[03:16] <icc7> what did i do wrong??
[03:16] <bob2> occy: ah
[03:17] <occy> bob2, my thinking was, go back to the way it was before when it worked perfectly.
[03:17] <bob2> steven_Laptop: from reading man dlichent.conf. it seems timeout is the right option
[03:17] <thoreauputic> knutp: it's quite possible to do it - you just need to do some learning :)
[03:17] <bob2> occy: seems reasonable
[03:17] <steven_Laptop> thanks
[03:17] <icc7> neways i used Ubuntu
[03:17] <occy> bob2, the only way I can get it to "reset" itself, is to power down and come back up.  And then it works (as it is now) like a charm.
[03:17] <occy> bob2, it'll work for some undeterminable time and then just die.
[03:17] <bob2> occy: unloading and reloading the module doesn't fix it?
[03:17] <icc7> anyone help
[03:18] <samu2> i cant get back into my ubuntu right now
[03:18] <occy> bob2, hmmm, that is a good idea...
[03:18] <marcin_ant> ehh I need to try again - does anyone know if is there a package with java 1.5 for breezy?
[03:18] <occy> heh, I might disco
[03:18] <occy> bbiab if that happens
[03:18] <knutp> no brain=no pain ..... well must have more brain than other doen even try Ubuntu. BTW .... running live now ..... eh, but instaling it on my XP-PC ... nooooooo ..... or does it make a lilo-boot or somethink like that???
[03:18] <Emiel> bob2l	I just installed ubuntu . It stop on the startup with Starting hotplug subsystem
[03:19] <JMF> hello all
[03:19] <bob2> anyway, partay time
[03:19] <JMF> I have a BIG problem : I stupidly removed /tmp
[03:19] <lastnode> where is services.list again?
[03:19] <Kagome_006> ha ha
[03:19] <az[a] zel> since when do geeks go to parties
[03:19] <{cYanide}> how would i increase my pagefile size?
[03:19] <lastnode> on get-apt im being asked for a cdrom
[03:19] <az[a] zel> oh, you meant LAN party
[03:19] <p0windah> ??
[03:19] <p0windah> geeks love parties
[03:19] <JMF> I recreated it, change the rights, set the sticky bits but my box is very unstable
[03:19] <az[a] zel> heh
[03:19] <thoreauputic> knutp: you can dual-boot with win XP no troubles
[03:20] <lastnode> i forget the path to services.list
[03:20] <[Wiebel] > anyone any idea when firefox 1.07 will be included in breezy?
[03:20] <knutp> thoreauutic .... lilo or what manager will be installed???
[03:20] <JMF> how can I fix this ?
[03:20] <thoreauputic> lastnode: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:20] <thoreauputic> lastnode: to get rid of the CD entry
[03:20] <Seveas> JMF, the permissions of /tmp should be drwxrwxrwt  root root
[03:20] <lastnode> thanks thoreauputic
[03:20] <Emiel> bob2 , I just installed ubuntu . It stop on the startup with Starting hotplug subsystem
[03:20] <JMF> seveas: they are like that
[03:20] <Earthen> ompaul, hey
[03:21] <thoreauputic> knutp: grub
[03:21] <knutp> it there a big difference between ubnto installed and live??? More aplication ?????     speed off cause :)
[03:21] <occy> bob2, ok, this might sound stuipd, but... when I do rmmod ipw2200 my gnome panel icon gives me circle with a dash in it.  When it locks up cold... it gives me this ! with some sort of dot beside it on the bottom right.  (indicating something is broken I'm guessing)   So what I'm saying is, I get different icons when it locks up versus when I just remove the module.    Does that mean anything?
[03:21] <Seveas> JMF, a reboot should help then
[03:21] <thoreauputic> knutp: pretty much the same really
[03:21] <gorilla> knutp, there is not real difference.
[03:21] <Seveas> since the contents of /tmp are not guaranteed to survive a reboot...
[03:22] <occy> bob2, I get that same icon when I press the "disable wireless network card button" that is nowhere near my keyboard, on my laptop.
[03:22] <knutp> :(    ...... not much stuff than ......   missing XMMS (or like) ...... couldn get shoutcast to play from the live !?!?   worked on knoppix!
[03:22] <JMF> seveas: I do not think so but I do that just in case
[03:23] <Emiel> can anybody help me with this problem : I just installed ubuntu . It stop on the startup with Starting hotplug subsystem
[03:23] <thoreauputic> knutp: all those things are possible - see ubotu's URL below
[03:23] <samu2> does anybody have a link to a page with detailed instructions on doing fsck interactively?
[03:23] <thoreauputic> !docs
[03:23] <ubotu> well, docs is an index of documentation on the Ubuntu Wiki - you can find it at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[03:24] <knutp> well perhaps thats why ubunto grow so fast - smal, and just what you need! (Not all the knoppix-package no newbie knows to use!)
[03:24] <occy> bob2, the reason I say it's not located near my keyboard is that you might assume it could be easy to accidently hit it.  It's virtual impossibility to hit that key while typing.
[03:24] <abusado> ubotu, tell abusado wine
[03:24] <abusado> lolz
[03:25] <JMF> seveas: it worked ! thanks !
[03:25] <thoreauputic> !tell abusado about wine
[03:25] <abusado> ubotu, tell abusado about wine
[03:25] <CJunky> i have a problem with my toshiba satellite pro 4200... after few minutes the laptop freez complete... i don't know why.
[03:25] <JMF> seveas: but I still find this very wierd, I tried to quit the session and log in again but it was all fucked up
[03:25] <abusado> how long does it take for ubuntu to install wine???
[03:25] <JMF> seveas: I did not think a reboot would fix that
[03:26] <JMF> seveas: anyway, it works :)
[03:27] <abusado> ubotu, tell abusado about wine installation
[03:27] <Seveas> JMF things like /tmp/X11-unix are created on xserver startup and other services can do similar things
[03:27] <Seveas> reboots are very un-linux but it's just the easiest :)
[03:27] <CJunky> i have a problem with my toshiba satellite pro 4200... after few minutes the laptop freez complete... can someone help me?
[03:28] <JMF> seveas: I am new to Linux so I try not to use the old Windows tricks ;)
[03:30] <nexus-> hmm ubuntu doesn't have a md5 binary
[03:32] <samu2> sorry for being annoying, but i really would like some help on doing an fsck manually
[03:32] <Seveas> samu2, fsck /dev/your_disk
[03:32] <Seveas> if it is mounted: umount it
[03:33] <Seveas> if it is mounted as '/', boot from a live cd
[03:33] <samu2> I ran shutdown -r -f now
[03:33] <LoneNightCrawler> hey guys, I have a question, how do I restart samba server on Ubuntu?
[03:33] <cyphase> how easy is it for me to access someones router web interface using ssh tunneling?
[03:33] <cyphase> i don't mean hacking :)
[03:33] <Seveas> that will *skip* fsck
[03:33] <cyphase> they want me to help them
[03:33] <Seveas> -F will *force* fsck
[03:33] <cyphase> cracking*
[03:33] <samu2> Seveas so it wants to run fsck automatically every time i boot ubuntu now, but since it fails. It tells me to run it automatically.
[03:34] <samu2> Seveas, you are absolutely right. I meant -F
[03:34] <thoreauputic> LoneNightCrawler: I would say sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[03:35] <Madeye> any good alternative to gaim ?
[03:35] <p0windah> psi
[03:35] <thoreauputic> LoneNightCrawler: or sudo invoke-rc.d samba restart (same thing)
[03:35] <samu2> Seveas, so I tried running fsck with no options or anything and it starts asking me lots of questions that I'm not sure of how to respond to.
[03:35] <Madeye> p0windah, works for yahoo/msn/jabber/?
[03:35] <samu2> There was mention of some inode having its imagic flag set...
[03:35] <LoneNightCrawler> thoreauputic, for some reason I haven't got any "samba" in init.d
[03:35] <f00f_bug> hey, i upgraded to breezy, but the dist-upgrade didn't seem to work right, so i went back to hoary, but now muine doesn't do the trayicon thing anymore... and i can't get any of the plugins to compile.. any suggestions?
[03:36] <thoreauputic> LoneNightCrawler: have you installed samba ;) ?
[03:36] <Cr4Sh_> hey guyz can some one help me out with this broken pakage I have... hen I'm trying to update the pakages i get this errors:
[03:36] <Cr4Sh_> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libdivxdecore0_1-0x1.5f80000000057p-1355.0.1-1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libdivxdecore.so', which is also in package libdivx4linux
[03:36] <Cr4Sh_> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libdivxencore0_1-0x1.5f80000000057p-1355.0.1-1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libdivxencore.so', which is also in package libdivx4linux
[03:36] <LoneNightCrawler> lol, I haven't checked, but I had a /etc/samba folder so I assumed it was
[03:36] <thoreauputic> Cr4Sh_: do not paste in here
[03:37] <Cr4Sh_> sorry
[03:37] <Cr4Sh_> can u help me please??
[03:37] <thoreauputic> LoneNightCrawler: sudo aptitude install samba
[03:37] <LoneNightCrawler> lol, I just did an apt-get, should work now
[03:37] <LoneNightCrawler> aptitutude?
[03:37] <LoneNightCrawler> aptitude*?
[03:37] <joe__> anyone know anything about getting hp printers working?
[03:37] <cyphase> how can i use ssh tunneling to access someones router web interface? they need help forwarding ports
[03:37] <thoreauputic> LoneNightCrawler: either apt-get or aptitude - doesn't matter really
[03:38] <LoneNightCrawler> ah k
[03:38] <LoneNightCrawler> thanks
[03:38] <Patrik_Kler> Hi! Have anyone of you runned Ubuntu on a Dell PowerEdge 2850?
[03:38] <deFrysk> ran
[03:38] <LoneNightCrawler> great, it works now.. damn I'm stupid, lol
[03:39] <cyphase> i was thinking something like, they ssh into my server, then i access a port on my server and it'll forward me to their router
[03:39] <Cr4Sh_> so guyz anyone please???
[03:39] <gtodd> Is hand xorg editing needed for Ubuntu to do dual head??
[03:39] <f00f_bug> cyphase: google for ssh tunneling
[03:39] <thoreauputic> Cr4Sh_: are you using 3rd party repositories?
[03:39] <Cr4Sh_> yea
[03:39] <gtodd> I think fedora hasa system-config-display that has more widgets on it (for configuring dual head)
[03:39] <thoreauputic> Cr4Sh_: don't
[03:40] <{cYanide}> erm how can i enable swap ?
[03:40] <abusado> how can i install WINE using the Package Manager? i cant find it there
[03:40] <{cYanide}> free -m says   Swap: 0 0 0
[03:40] <deFrysk> Cr4Sh_, hence the whatever you got
[03:40] <Cr4Sh_> no because i need to update video codecs as my current one dont work..
[03:40] <joe__> can anyone help me setting up my hp network printer?
[03:40] <thoreauputic> !tell Cr4Sh_ about repos
[03:41] <thoreauputic> !tell Cr4Sh_ about codecs
[03:41] <ljw> ?
[03:41] <gtodd> I have a G400 dualhead and a builtin SVGA video card and want to attach two displays ... one card wired to X:0 and the other the X:1 ... is that doable in an easy Ubuntu way or is it emacs config file editing time for little ol' me :-\
[03:42] <p0windah> its doable
[03:42] <p0windah> its not straight forward though
[03:42] <kairu0> hi all
[03:42] <p0windah> hello
[03:42] <kairu0> yo
[03:42] <abusado> how can i install WINE using the Package Manager? i cant find it there!
[03:42] <thoreauputic> {cYanide}: did you make a swap partition when you installed?
[03:42] <thoreauputic> !info wine
[03:43] <ubotu> wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1248 kB, Installed size: 2596 kB
[03:43] <kairu0> abusado, you probably dont have the universe/multiverse repos enabled
[03:43] <deFrysk> !tell abusado about wine
[03:43] <p0windah> wine is evil
[03:43] <abusado> kairu how can i enable it???
[03:43] <p0windah> I have poured too many hours down that sinkwell
[03:43] <thoreauputic> abusado: you need the universe repository
[03:43] <carambol> hello, how i configure Name Service Switch?
[03:43] <ljw> how can i use it?
[03:43] <thoreauputic> !tell abusado about repos
[03:43] <kairu0> abusado, read the unofficial ubuntu faq (google that). its about the first item in it
[03:43] <f00f_bug> i take it no one knows about muine? :(
[03:44] <p0windah> f00f_bug: I'm guessing atleast you do
[03:44] <joe__> hi there, anyone know anything about network printer setup?
[03:44] <p0windah> Seveas: I patiently await your respository goodness
[03:44] <p0windah> repository, rather
[03:44] <f00f_bug> p0windah: obviously not enough :)
[03:45] <p0windah> f00f_bug: I'm sure you're a smart guy
[03:45] <abusado> OMG im using KYNAPTIC
[03:45] <f00f_bug> p0windah: i am, but i can't get these plugins workin :) i guess i'll just have to google more, heh
[03:45] <samu2> What is this imagic flag thing that is set on some inode?
[03:46] <p0windah> f00f_bug: when the lure of easy solutions deep within irc becomes too strong, feel free to come back
[03:46] <f00f_bug> p0windah: you know i will
[03:46] <p0windah> I, on the other hand am firmly entranced by Seveas right now
[03:46] <neo_> HI
[03:46] <p0windah> I dont dare leave :)
[03:47] <neo_> Somebody speak spanish?
[03:47] <deFrysk> !es
[03:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:47] <samu2> no habla espanol
[03:47] <thoreauputic> !spanish
[03:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:47] <p0windah> heh
[03:47] <f00f_bug> neo_: most of south america does :)
[03:47] <abusado> \
[03:47] <p0windah> !lojban
[03:47] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, p0windah
[03:47] <p0windah> ah well
[03:48] <rob^^^> are there any livecds being built with Ubuntu Express yet?
[03:49] <p0windah> so any gamers in here that have some thoughts on the revolutions new controller thingy ?
[03:49] <neo_> bvye
[03:49] <p0windah> or any non-gamers who just want to troll me ?
[03:49] <samu2> maybe you should find a game channel to talk about it in?
[03:50] <erUSUL> p0windah: please stay on-topic
[03:50] <p0windah> ok
[03:50] <linuxsbartley> Can anyone tell me how to get cups (localhost:631) to accept my user name and password for administration of printer setups?
[03:50] <ompaul> p0windah, you can do stuff in #ubuntu-offtopic that is what it is there for
[03:50] <p0windah> 3 responses :)
[03:51] <ompaul> linuxsbartley, if you click on system administration printing you may not need cups :)
[03:51] <The_Bundy> Hello
[03:51] <lastnode> i want one of my other drives mounted on startup
[03:51] <lastnode> where do i add the syntax?
[03:51] <linuxsbartley> ompaul, Sorry.  I have a ubuntu 5.04 server install running xfce4.  No gnome or kde.
[03:51] <lastnode> in /etc/init.d
[03:52] <LoneNightCrawler> hey is it possible to change the name of your linux system that shows up on the windows network?
[03:52] <Seveas> LoneNightCrawler, edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[03:52] <char1iecha1k> hello ppl i have googled this prob (kernel panic vfs unable to mount on unknown block(104,2)) but it seems that it occurs when the kernel gets upgraded and not often when installing, which is when i am getting the problem - nay help would be appreciated
[03:52] <linuxsbartley> I have set a root password and tried to access cups via root but it still fails.
[03:53] <deFrysk> s
[03:53] <lastnode> if its ntfs what type do i set my drive in /etc/fstab ?
[03:53] <lastnode> like for fat32 i do vfat
[03:54] <gtodd> p0windah, not straightforward ... ulp :-\
[03:54] <bluesceada> ntfs ?!
[03:54] <bluesceada> ntfs isn't secure writable
[03:54] <nexus-> lastnode,  ntfs
[03:54] <erUSUL> lastnode: ntfs
[03:54] <nexus-> i use /dev/hda1       /mnt/system ntfs ro,umask=0222,uid=nobody,gid=nogroup 0 0
[03:54] <lastnode> thanks nexus- , erUSUL
[03:54] <nexus-> mounts it read only, with umask of 222 (which means read only anyway)
[03:55] <nexus-> you might want to change the uid and gid of the person mounting it and making it nosuid as well :P
[03:55] <Emiel> I found this on the forum : BootHotPlugErrors, but my ubuntu freeze when I starup
[03:55] <abusado> how can i install file.deb ?????????????? how to install it?
[03:56] <lastnode> does this look ok - /dev/hda1	/media/hda1	ntfs	defaults,umask=0	0	0
[03:56] <deFrysk> abusado, wich one ?
[03:56] <deFrysk> abusado, why not use apt-get/synaptic ?
[03:57] <abusado> yahoomessenger.deb
[03:57] <thoreauputic> abusado: please don't use all those question marks - it is annoying
[03:57] <ompaul> linuxsbartley, if you don't have gnome installed but have the room for it perhaps download it and run gnome-cups-manager from inside your xfce
[03:57] <deFrysk> !tell abusado about dpkg
[03:57] <samu2> So, can somebody tell me if it's a bad thing that an inode has its imagic flag set?
[03:57] <pybe> lastnode, http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[03:57] <thoreauputic> abusado: why are you installing that when gaim does yahoo?
[03:58] <char1iecha1k> hello ppl i have googled this prob (kernel panic vfs unable to mount on unknown block(104,2)) but it seems that it occurs when the kernel gets upgraded and not often when installing, which is when i am getting the problem - nay help would be appreciated
[03:58] <rob^^^> is there a livecD option to force 16 bit depth in X?
[03:58] <linuxsbartley> ompaul, unfortunately, due to project design  constraints, we cant use gnome or kde
[03:58] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, in my experience; some people are more stubborn that I can imagine
[03:58] <linuxsbartley> was hoping to just be able to access the web interface to configure stuff.
[03:58] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, I dont even ask why anymore
[03:59] <nickrud>  linuxsbartley, add cupsys to the group shadow, restart cupsys, and you can use the web interface
[03:59] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: ;)
[03:59] <linuxsbartley> nickrud, cool. thx.
[04:00] <nickrud> I bloodied my head against a wall over that one once
[04:00] <linuxsbartley> nickrud, that worked great.  thx.
[04:00] <pluffsy> is resizing and adding partitions possible with free software on ubuntu? is it difficult? (on macos there atleast WAS only possible to do that with proprietary software)
[04:00] <Emiel> Does anybody know how I can login in the terminal. My ubuntu stopped at the starup at Starting hotplug subsystem...
[04:01] <nickrud> linuxsbartley, I was also told that can be a security risk, and I should remove cupsys from shadow when I'm done
[04:01] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: sure - gparted, qtparted, cfdisk, fdisk... bblah blah
[04:01] <pluffsy> thoreauputic: alright. great. thanks.
[04:02] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: I haven't used gparted but it looks like a nice GUI way to do it
[04:02] <ompaul> nickrud, why not do a wiki page and tell ubotu about it :)
[04:02] <nickrud> ompaul, I thought the guy I worked this out with did so months ago
[04:02] <nickrud> I'll look
[04:02] <ompaul> can't find it
[04:03] <nickrud> he said he would ;(
[04:03] <Emiel> Does anybody know how I can login in the terminal. My ubuntu stopped at the starup at Starting hotplug subsystem... Is knoppix the only answer?
[04:05] <samu2> So nobody knows what an imagic flag is?
[04:06] <char1iecha1k> hello ppl i have googled this prob (kernel panic vfs unable to mount on unknown block(104,2)) but it seems that it occurs when the kernel gets upgraded and not often when installing, which is when i am getting the problem - nay help would be appreciated
[04:06] <pluffsy> thoreauputic: just dl:ing it from synpatic. are you usually able to partition the "current volume" or whatever the system disk.
[04:06] <pluffsy> and a question mark in the end
[04:06] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: if you want to partition smething it needs to be unmounted, of course
[04:07] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: partitioning your / (root) would need access from e.g. a live CD
[04:08] <abusado> where can i find libssl.0.9??
[04:08] <thoreauputic> abusado: you are determined to do things the hard way, aren't you?
[04:09] <abusado> sorry
[04:09] <abusado> :)
[04:09] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, :D
[04:10] <samu2> Please? Somebody?
[04:11] <ebichete> samu2: What's the problem ?
[04:12] <samu2> fsck fails, and tells me to run manually. it reports an inode having its "imagic flag" set.
[04:12] <samu2> i tried just running "fsck" but I am not sure what to answer to the questions to not screw up my file system.
[04:13] <samu2> right now, i cant get back into ubuntu
[04:13] <samu2> its stuck in wanting to do an automatic fsck everytime i boot it
[04:14] <abusado> ok i get it i installed synaptic now
[04:15] <pluffsy> thoreauputic, right. well I even have a livecd here. so guess that can be done :)
[04:15] <ebichete> samu2: In general answer "yes" if it isn't obvious what to do. Fsck on ext2/3 is very cautious so you can't mess up your filesystem too much.
[04:16] <samu2> ebichete but what does that imagic flag thing refer to?
[04:16] <Kyral> Anyone know how to tunnel a Vino server through a SSH connection to make it secure?
[04:18] <ebichete> samu2: I believe it's a flag that allows ext2fs to do some extra optimization. "Google should be your friend"
[04:19] <samu2> ebichete but it isn't it's not giving me any good hits in the first 10 pages
[04:19] <ebichete> samu2: Look for Ted Tsyo's (sp ?) pages
[04:19] <linuxsbartley> nickrud, sorry for the delay in reply.  Hmm.  Any idea how this is done in other distro's then?  i.e. I use Xandros as well.  It does not have cupsys in the shadow group but I can access localhost:631 as the root user.
[04:19] <char1iecha1k> hello ppl i have googled this prob (kernel panic vfs unable to mount on unknown block(104,2)) but it seems that it occurs when the kernel gets upgraded and not often when installing, which is when i am getting the problem - nay help would be appreciated
[04:19] <ebichete> samu2: He's the maintainer, so there should be something relevant
[04:19] <linuxsbartley> nickrud, how is ubuntu securing cupsys to prevent access as the root user or as a sudo user?
[04:20] <nickrud> linuxsbartley, as I remember, ubuntu modified cups for this. I think, as more info trickles into my forebrain, that there's a better way to do this
[04:21] <gerarcone> hi to all
[04:21] <gerarcone> can someone help me? when I digit
[04:21] <linuxsbartley> nickrud, gotta run for a few.  I will check back in about 20.
[04:21] <gerarcone> free -m
[04:21] <pluffsy> is it possible to change the emulation key used for right clicks (this is a mac) with gui? or do I have to edit a text file? in that case do you know which file?
[04:21] <gerarcone> the total RAM is 850MB, but I have 1.25GB
[04:22] <thoreauputic> linuxsbartley: I don't know the answer, but it might be worth running "  less /etc/cups/cupsd.conf " (probably will show you what options are enabled)
[04:22] <nickrud> linuxsbartley, I've gotta get back to work in a few; if I find what I'm looking for quickly, i'll pm it to you
[04:22] <gerarcone> can someone recognize the problem?
[04:22] <marcin_ant> is there any way to use ubuntu backports with breezy?
[04:22] <Kyral> marcin_ant, yes I do :D
[04:22] <thoreauputic> gerarcone: you need a 686 kernel or equivalent
[04:23] <samu2> ah this sucks
[04:23] <samu2> ill just go ruin my file system now
[04:23] <marcin_ant> apt is reporting malformed url when trying to add backports
[04:23] <thoreauputic> gerarcone: 386 kernels only show about ~900 MB
[04:23] <marcin_ant> Kyral, could you tell me how?
[04:23] <Kyral> just add the repo lines...
[04:23] <scanwinder> how do u scan for channels with xawtv? ive done it before but forgotten how........i seem to remember using scantv......but i get  vbi: open failed [/dev/vbi]     open /dev/vbi: No such file or directory
[04:24] <scanwinder> the device is /dev/video0 but i cant seem to get scantv to look for that instead of /dev/vbi
[04:24] <gerarcone> thoreauputic: how can i get this version of the kernel? sorry but i'm new to linux
[04:24] <thoreauputic> gerarcone:  apt-cache search linux-image and choose one for your architecture
[04:24] <thoreauputic> gerarcone: but don't use 2.6.11 - it has known issues
[04:25] <Kyral> But the Breezy 2.6.12 is stable :D
[04:25] <thoreauputic> gerarcone: are you using a pentium 4 ?
[04:25] <Kyral> Okay, idea for the next installer
[04:25] <gerarcone> thoreauputic: yes, I have a P4.
[04:25] <Kyral> detect the arch and put the proper kernel in
[04:25] <gerarcone> thoreauputic: how can I choose from the list?
[04:25] <Kyral> if it sees an AMD, install a K7
[04:25] <thoreauputic> gerarcone: then install the linux-image for i686
[04:26] <Kyral> if it sees a P4, install the 686
[04:26] <Kyral> if its confused, ask or install the 386
[04:26] <gerarcone> thoreauputic: can you give me the command lines for that?
[04:26] <marcin_ant> Kyral, heh I had to use synaptic to add repo line
[04:27] <marcin_ant> Kyral, updating now and I hope it will work
[04:27] <marcin_ant> Kyral, well error
[04:27] <thoreauputic> gerarcone: sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.10-5-686
[04:28] <thoreauputic> gerarcone: assuming you are running 5.04 (Hoary)
[04:28] <marcin_ant> Kyral, could you tell me how does your backports line look like in sources.list?
[04:28] <bip> is anybody involved with ltsp deployement here ?
[04:28] <gerarcone> thoreauputic: yes I have Hoary, thank you very much!!! Let's see if it works...
[04:28] <Krneki> hay
[04:28] <Krneki> need help
[04:28] <Kyral> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:28] <Kyral> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:28] <Kyral> those
[04:28] <thoreauputic> gerarcone: it should :) Just reboot to see all your ram after installing it
[04:29] <momo> bip, I have breezy and been trying to test ltsp without any success
[04:29] <Kyral> sorry for the C&P
[04:29] <Krneki> how to set ipv6 on ubuntu ( i use xs26.net as provider)
[04:29] <thoreauputic> gerarcone: it should boot to the new kernel or give you that choice in the grub menu
[04:29] <Hoxzer> 170 kB/s
[04:29] <Hoxzer> :( my download speed is looooow
[04:29] <Hoxzer> need 30Mbps cable
[04:29] <gerarcone> thoreauputic: ok done. now i shold reboot?
[04:29] <f00f_bug> BAH! i thought i was being clever by uninstalling muine to reinstall it, but now it won't reinstall! i think the dependencies are too new? anyway to refresh all my packages?
[04:30] <Krneki> ANY ipv6 expert here
[04:30] <thoreauputic> gerarcone: note that a small amount of ram is always reserved for the kernel stack
[04:30] <thoreauputic> gerarcone: yes, reboot - a new kernel is about the only thing that needs rebooting on linux :)
[04:30] <gerarcone> thoreauputic: ok
[04:30] <gerarcone> thoreauputic: see you later!
[04:31] <wobster> hi everybody. it's my first day on debian coming from gentoo. how can I install streamtuner? apt-get install streamtuner doesn't work out.
[04:31] <VoX> what would be causing this error? Sep 17 00:26:27 localhost kernel: [ 4444.957676]  ioctl32(armyops-bin:23314): Unknown cmd fd(97) cmd(80a04520){00} arg(ffff86d8) on /dev/input/event0
[04:31] <thoreauputic> !tell wobster about repos
[04:31] <flugh> is there a version of ubuntu (maybe 5.10?) that has postgresql-8.x?
[04:31] <Krneki> hm IPV6 HELP needed here
[04:31] <Kyral> !tell wobster about RootSudo
[04:31] <wobster> yup. please !tell me :)
[04:31] <shrike__> unable to do cd-rw blanking in gnomebaker or k3b any ideas?
[04:32] <f00f_bug> shrike__: man cdrecord
[04:32] <wobster> Kyral, it's not about sudo. it's about not finding teh packet
[04:32] <thoreauputic> wobster: look at your /msgs
[04:32] <wobster> ah. ok.
[04:32] <wobster> didnt notice
[04:32] <thoreauputic> wobster: ubotu sent you info
[04:32] <shrike__> f00f_bug, hmm lemme take a look at cdrecord..
[04:32] <wobster> thoreauputic, thanks a lot
[04:32] <Kyral> Okay....this is an unsettling msg....
[04:33] <thoreauputic> wobster: no worries :)
[04:33] <Krneki> will i be on turn one time
[04:33] <benz190ryda> hello
[04:33] <wobster> he. debian confuses me every now and then ;)
[04:33] <thoreauputic> wobster: ubuntu != debian
[04:33] <Kyral> in a couple KDEInit files, I updated the Freeglut package. It tells me that it isn't an ELF file 'cause the magic bit isn't right...
[04:33] <thoreauputic> wobster: similar but different :)
[04:34] <benz190ryda> anyone here using ubuntu on a laptop
[04:34] <Nermal> aye
[04:34] <thoreauputic> wobster: whatever you do, don't use debian repos
[04:34] <f00f_bug> shrike__: cdrecord dev=/dev/xxxx blank=fast
[04:34] <wobster> thoreauputic, I swear
[04:34] <gerarcone> thoreauputic: the new kernel works great!!! thanks!!!
[04:34] <thoreauputic> wobster: :)
[04:34] <thoreauputic> gerarcone: :D
[04:34] <flugh> is there a breezy installer available yet?
[04:34] <bip> momo so you are tryin lstp with breezy w/out success
[04:35] <flugh> or is it hoary->dist-upgrade only?
[04:35] <Nermal> flugh, you can download breezy cd isos
[04:35] <gerarcone> thoreauputic: now GRUB give me the choice of booting also from the old kernel. how can i delete it from the list?
[04:35] <Nermal> whether they install properly or not is another question :)
[04:35] <thoreauputic> flugh: see /topic
[04:35] <Kyral> The installer is slightly tweaked
[04:35] <flugh> Nermal, nifty. thanks
[04:36] <thoreauputic> gerarcone: well, keep it - it's good to have a backup kernel
[04:36] <flugh> thoreauputic, oh, i'm an idiot. thanks for helping me realize that =)
[04:36] <wobster> thoreauputic, I suppose in that wiki also has a guide to kernel-building? I have no floppy and the kernel freaks out from time to time. I have to disable that. unfortunately the fdd-driver  is not a module
[04:36] <VoX> what would be causing this error? Sep 17 00:26:27 localhost kernel: [ 4444.957676]  ioctl32(armyops-bin:23314): Unknown cmd fd(97) cmd(80a04520){00} arg(ffff86d8) on /dev/input/event0
[04:36] <thoreauputic> flugh: heh :) Not really - hardly anyone reads the /topic it seems
[04:36] <ebichete> benz190ryda: I'm using a laptop.
[04:36] <shrike__> "write speed of 2 not suffecient for this writer" and alot of other stuff
[04:37] <thoreauputic> wobster: there's a kernal howto, yes - hang on a tic
[04:37] <wobster> sure
[04:37] <flugh> thoreauputic, xchat does a bad job of showing the topic on /join. i like that x-chat gnome thing i used with foresight linux. going to get it installed directly
[04:38] <shrike__> same error as in gnomebaker
[04:38] <f00f_bug> for upgrading to breezy without a complete reinstall, is it best to just change the apt sources to breezy and dist-upgrade?
[04:38] <thoreauputic> wobster: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelHowto
[04:38] <flugh> just running fedora at home now to do devel on my work database, so that postgresql versions match. but i NEED ubuntu
[04:38] <marcin_ant> Kyral, thanks it work
[04:39] <wobster> thoreauputic,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelByHandHowto. this is more gentoo-like :)
[04:39] <momo> bip:  yeh ive been able to get pxe to boot but it never loads the kernel
[04:39] <thoreauputic> wobster: well, it's best to do things "the Debian Way" in Ubuntu
[04:39] <bip> ah ok ...
[04:39] <gerarcone> thoreauputic: sorry to boring you, but how can i know if the drivers of my video card are installed?
[04:39] <antix> what's the command for checking kernel version?
[04:39] <gerarcone> thoreauputic: i have an ATI Mobility Radeon 9700
[04:39] <f00f_bug> antix: uname -a
[04:40] <wobster> thoreauputic, ok. Ill try. uh. one more thing: what's the security updates repository? .. just hotfixes?
[04:40] <momo> I used the howto found on the ubuntu wiki but its not very detailed
[04:40] <bip> momo i have found some nice breezy ltsp how to momo
[04:40] <antix> f00f_bug, thanks!
[04:40] <thoreauputic> !ati
[04:40] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[04:40] <thoreauputic> gerarcone: ^^^^
[04:40] <bip> but they all semm to be about tpure thin clients
[04:40] <momo> I dont think the ltsp-build-client ran successfully on my system
[04:40] <bip> instead im interested in usin a fat diskless client setup
[04:40] <thoreauputic> wobster: as the name would imply - security fixes
[04:41] <shrike__> no one else having problems blanking cdrw disks in hoary?
[04:41] <bip> can you tell me a bit about your spcs momo ? i do run a fat client solution right now doesnt use ubuntu mor ltsp, it s based on skolelinux and lessdisks
[04:41] <momo> bip so you want to boot from your nic
[04:42] <bip> but i m considering the possibility of using ubuntu instead
[04:42] <bip> well i do boot from my nics momo
[04:42] <bip> but not using ubuntu nor ltsp
[04:42] <momo> i was just doing some testing with a laptop running brezzy and ltsp with one workstation booting from the nic
[04:43] <matthews> -
[04:43] <bip> ok what are the specs of the server and the client momo ? i had my first succes using viortual machines
[04:43] <Krneki> NEED help to configure ipv6 on ubuntu
[04:43] <Krneki> please help
[04:44] <bip> if you want i can privmsg you the link i have found about ubuntu and ltsp momo
[04:44] <bip> links
[04:44] <bip> i have found a few actually
[04:44] <momo> I would appreciate that.
[04:45] <bip> ok hold on ...
[04:46] <gerarcone> thoreauputic: sure my mobility 9700 is supported?
[04:46] <Kyral> Krneki, I don;t think anyone active right now knows about IPv6 in Ubuntu
[04:46] <sproingie> ugh, thought X in breezy was slow before ... had to fall back to the vesa driver now
[04:46] <Kyral> hell, yours is the first ISP that I have heard of that offers IPv6
[04:46] <benz190ryda> can i install kubuntu using apt? my cdrom is shot
[04:47] <thoreauputic> gerarcone: I have no idea, sorry - mine is  crappy onboard affair by sis
[04:47] <Seveas> yes you can
[04:47] <Kyral> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:47] <samu2> all right, one more problem eliminated
[04:47] <samu2> i ran fsck and just answered yes to everything
[04:47] <samu2> but i still have the problem that ubuntu cant reset my computer properly
[04:47] <benz190ryda> thanks
[04:47] <samu2> not sure if its a laptop-problem or something
[04:48] <shrike__> ok I just tried this on two computers both hoary one laptop one deskop neither will let me blank a cdrw
[04:49] <gerarcone> thoreauputic: In the link i read: "They support the X700, 9800, 9600, 9200, and 9000 Mobile chipsets."
[04:49] <f00f_bug> shrike__: maybe your rw is f**cked up?
[04:49] <f00f_bug> is it brand new?
[04:49] <benz190ryda> tried apt-get install kubuntu-desktop i get E: couldnt find package.is it looking for a cd
[04:49] <benz190ryda> ?
[04:49] <thoreauputic> gerarcone: someone else might know: I don't, sorry :(
[04:50] <shrike__> f00f_bug, worked in xp last week..but I guess thats possible
[04:50] <shrike__> f00f_bug, I can read it just fine and wrote it originally in ubuntu just cant blank
[04:50] <ebichete> samu2: Probably a laptop problem, what model is yours ?
[04:50] <flugh> benz190ryda, you have the proper kubuntu lines in apt sources.list?
[04:51] <sproingie> anyone with breezy having trouble with fglrx after latest update?
[04:51] <flugh> benz190ryda, there's a very helpful #kubuntu channel here too
[04:51] <thoreauputic> !tell benz190ryda about sources
[04:51] <sproingie> something about duplicate symbols.  X stupidly overwrites the log so i can't tell exactly
[04:54] <WTFchuck> howzit
[04:55] <benz190ryda> ok
[04:55] <stratus> is there something like snapshot.debian.net but with an ubuntu archive ?
[04:55] <Juul> where does one put feature suggestions? bugzilla?
[04:55] <f00f_bug> shrike__: try to blank it in xp again, to see if it's the disk or the os
[04:56] <Juul> there need to be a better mouse/nipple_mouse/touchpad control panel thing
[04:56] <Juul> i can't even use my nipple mouse, it's like trying to arm wrestle a smurf
[04:56] <shrike__> f00f_bug, I was so proud of myself for not booting to XP..  brb
[04:56] <f00f_bug> hehe
[04:59] <sproingie> i think my machine boots faster than openoffice2 takes to start
[04:59] <sproingie> the bouncing cursor goes away before it even manages to draw the splash screen
[05:00] <tryto> hello
[05:00] <kairu0> sproingie, lol
[05:00] <Cr4Sh_> OK guyz i dont know what to do?? I'm stak with this error evrytime I'm trying to install something new... how do i fix it
[05:00] <flugh> can i get xchat to pause before joining channels on connect so i don't end up in the unregged channels?
[05:00] <tryto> any have an idea on how to install wine in ubuntu 5.10
[05:00] <apokryphos> sproingie: remove the bouncing cursor. It makes your computer appear faster (really)
[05:00] <Cr4Sh_> can i paste is not long!! 1 line only?
[05:00] <thoreauputic> sproingie: you might want to install ooqstart-gnome and allocate more memory to OOo
[05:00] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell tryto about wine
[05:01] <tryto> ????
[05:01] <apokryphos> !wine
[05:01] <apokryphos> tryto: did you not get an /msg from ubotu?
[05:01] <osfameron> on which note
[05:01] <apokryphos> tryto: hm, perhaps you need to register your nick.
[05:01] <thoreauputic> flugh: put your password in the server box instead of the nickserv box in the server dialogue
[05:01] <osfameron> has anyone had any luck using winetools ?
[05:02] <osfameron> or is there another good way to set the basics up?
[05:02] <tryto> k thanks
[05:02] <flugh> thoreauputic, thanks, will try it
[05:02] <thoreauputic> flugh: Works Here (tm)
[05:02] <robzon> yo
[05:05] <gabaug> how can I get the list of files installed by a .deb from the cli?
[05:05] <gabaug> like synaptic will give you via the properties context menu item
[05:05] <tryto> another question... how can i install nvidia gforce driver???
[05:05] <apokryphos> gabaug: dpkg -l
[05:05] <thoreauputic> gabaug:  dpkg -L packagename
[05:05] <apokryphos> gabaug: erm, dpkg -L sorry
[05:05] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: no, capital L
[05:05] <gabaug> thanks guys
[05:05] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:05] <apokryphos> 8)
[05:05] <fredforfaen> one happy cutomer :P
[05:06] <tryto> apokryphos: how do i register my nick?
[05:06] <sproingie> hopefully breezy fixes the fglrx driver conflict soon.  i think i'm being punished for saying X was slow before
[05:06] <apokryphos> tryto: /msg nickserv help register
[05:07] <WTFchuck> ok, i cn't figure out how to sve my live configurtion, now i tried to put it on  floppy but
[05:07] <WTFchuck> mn, im tired
[05:08] <WTFchuck> i hve to get special floppy files?
[05:08] <tryto> apokryphos: any idea on how to install nvidia gforce driver???
[05:08] <apokryphos> Yup
[05:08] <apokryphos> !nvidia
[05:08] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:09] <apokryphos> tryto: so to register just /msg nickserv register <password>
[05:09] <allen> Hi everyone
[05:09] <apokryphos> aloha
[05:09] <kairu0> hey
[05:09] <allen> I'm very new to linux and am using ubuntu
[05:09] <allen> My name is allen
[05:09] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: /j #ubuntu-hawaii  *grin*
[05:09] <kwikstah> Hi, I'm trying to install x2vnc, which I downloaded off sourceforge, but when I try to compile it, I get some err msgs: In file included from args.c:25:
[05:09] <kwikstah> ./x2vnc.h:28:22: error: X11/Xlib.h: No such file or directory
[05:09] <kwikstah> ./x2vnc.h:29:21: error: X11/Xmd.h: No such file or directory
[05:09] <kwikstah> , and then a bunch of syntax errors.  Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
[05:09] <apokryphos> good to have you here =_
[05:09] <allen> I hope you can help me with my problem?
[05:10] <nibblesmx> I have a problem. Ubuntu keeps telling me I need to upgrade my xserver-xorg packages. actually its around 152 packages I upgrade almost everyday and it keeps telling me to upgrade.
[05:10] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: :P
[05:10] <benz190ryda> i know this sound stupid but what does the term uncomment mean
[05:10] <apokryphos> allen: certainly no-one can if you don't state it ;-)
[05:10] <[Wiebel] > nibblesmx: breezy? :)
[05:10] <thoreauputic> benz190ryda: remove the #
[05:10] <Seveas> nibblesmx, that's because the packages constanly change in a development version...
[05:10] <benz190ryda> trying to edit my apt source list
[05:10] <thoreauputic> benz190ryda: usually :)
[05:10] <allen> I can't figure out how to get my machine have sounds
[05:10] <benz190ryda> ok
[05:10] <benz190ryda> thats what i thought just wanted to be sure
[05:10] <thoreauputic> benz190ryda: lines starting # are comments
[05:11] <Echelon-H> is there a command to physically eject the cd?
[05:11] <benz190ryda> thanks
[05:11] <matthews> sound does seem to be the biggest pain i have had in ubuntu
[05:11] <Seveas> eject
[05:11] <nibblesmx> [Wiebel] , yes, breezy. Seveas  have updated the xorg packages 5 times in 3 days
[05:11] <thoreauputic> benz190ryda: i.e. ignored
[05:11] <kwikstah> nobody?
[05:11] <Seveas> nibblesmx, sounds about right
[05:11] <[Wiebel] > nibblesmx: breezy is development
[05:11] <matthews> got sound working with xmms and totem etc though no lost system sound
[05:11] <[Wiebel] > so packeges keep getting updated and changed
[05:11] <Seveas> you don't need to do that though, you can skip a few updates...
[05:11] <tryto> i'm also a newbie here... its my 1st time using linux
[05:11] <matthews> figure that one !!
[05:11] <[Wiebel] > and yes, the last few days xorg packages are updated pretty often
[05:11] <tryto> and i like ubuntu... its great
[05:12] <allen> I also like ubuntu
[05:12] <apokryphos> I tend to only update about once a week unless there's a reason to update something else
[05:12] <WTFchuck> ryhmes with borg
[05:12] <tryto> the problem is i dont know the how to's
[05:12] <Seveas> tryto, wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:12] <apokryphos> tryto: no worries. The Wiki is the best place to start.
[05:12] <allen> My first problem is not having sounds
[05:12] <matthews> has anyone used clam av in ubuntu
[05:12] <tryto> can someane till me what is this code means "sudo apt-get install xlibs-dev"
[05:12] <tryto> where do i run them?
[05:13] <kwikstah> that's a command
[05:13] <Seveas> tryto, that uses the apt-get command to install the package xlibs-dev
[05:13] <nibblesmx> well, thanks a lot, i thought it was a bug :D
[05:13] <apokryphos> tryto: the Terminal, check in your menus.
[05:13] <thoreauputic> tryto: erm - what are you compiling?
[05:13] <Seveas> you run it in a terminal
[05:13] <kwikstah> i guess nobody knows how to answer my question. thanks anyway, though.
[05:13] <thoreauputic> tryto: normally you would only need that to compile things
[05:13] <osfameron> hmmm, the instructions at !wine are pretty good
[05:13] <tryto> does it mean i need to download something form the net
[05:13] <apokryphos> tryto: yes, basically.
[05:13] <thoreauputic> tryto: what are you doing?
[05:13] <tryto> io'm trying to install Wine in ubuntu 5.10
[05:14] <osfameron> but always annoying not to be able to just apt-get it and have it all worky
[05:14] <apokryphos> tryto: whenever you see apt-get install <something> it's pretty much the same as you selecting that package from Synaptic, Ubuntu's Package Manager.
[05:14] <thoreauputic> !tell tryto about wine
[05:14] <Echelon-H> eject is not working
[05:15] <apokryphos> tryto: try out synaptic; just select it from the menu. And check this also:
[05:15] <apokryphos> !synaptic
[05:15] <ubotu> from memory, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[05:15] <thoreauputic> Echelon-H: try  eject /dev/cdrom
[05:15] <tryto> thanks for your help guys....
[05:15] <thoreauputic> Echelon-H: if that doesn't work, try audo eject /dev/cdrom
[05:15] <shekhar> hello does anyone know if skype works better in breezy than hoary?
[05:15] <allen> how do I open a .bin file?
[05:15] <thoreauputic> sorry sudo eject
[05:16] <thoreauputic> Echelon-H: typo
[05:16] <Echelon-H> invalid argument
[05:16] <thoreauputic> allen: you don't - you rub it normally
[05:16] <Echelon-H> nvm
[05:16] <Echelon-H> sudo worked
[05:16] <Echelon-H> thanks
[05:16] <thoreauputic> Echelon-H: did you try sudo?
[05:16] <allen> How? sorry very new to this
[05:17] <thoreauputic> allen: is this a game installer or something?
[05:17] <carthik> kwikstah, maybe a few soft links to the right locations of the files is what you need? (just trying to help)
[05:17] <allen> it is java runtime environment
[05:17] <thoreauputic> allen: what is this file for?
[05:17] <thoreauputic> ah
[05:17] <kwikstah> carthik, kairu0 told me i need to install libx11-dev
[05:17] <thoreauputic> !tell allen about java
[05:17] <allen> I'm installing azureus
[05:17] <kwikstah> that seems to have helped, thanks for trying, though :P
[05:17] <allen> It needs java first
[05:17] <dwerf> hi there, i have a disk problem - my disk cannot be read anymore in windows, fortunately in linux it can - is it possible to restore the disk in linux to make it work in windows?
[05:17] <thoreauputic> allen: ubotu just sent you an URL about java
[05:18] <allen> yep thanks
[05:18] <carthik> kwikstah, though you could install x2vnc using apt-get and thus get a package known to work, instead of compiling
[05:18] <fredforfaen> why doesent people here use the unofficial ubuntu guide?
[05:18] <fredforfaen> it has "everything"
[05:18] <flugh> thoreauputic, thanks. sorry was afk a bit
[05:18] <kwikstah> i didn't see it in synaptic package manager, carthik
[05:18] <thoreauputic> fredforfaen: it breaks things sometimes
[05:18] <fredforfaen> aha
[05:18] <fredforfaen> like what
[05:18] <kairu0> fredforfaen, does it have weapons of mass destruction?
[05:18] <WTFchuck> because your brain is scrambled from reading it
[05:18] <D1> fredforfaen, I think people dislike it because it doesn't SAY what its doing
[05:19] <thoreauputic> fredforfaen: various things - the sources are not good, the audio advice is dodgy...
[05:19] <fredforfaen> lol
[05:19] <D1> its just a list of a bunch of commands
[05:19] <dwerf> hi there, i have a disk problem - my disk cannot be read anymore in windows, fortunately in linux it can - is it possible to restore the disk in linux to make it work in windows?
[05:19] <D1> so you don't learn anything
[05:19] <fredforfaen> wow , good info gyes
[05:19] <osfameron> D1: you shouldn't *have* to learn anything
[05:19] <thoreauputic> D1: it's also out of date now
[05:19] <osfameron> it's Linux for human beings, no?
[05:19] <allen> what's the difference between ppc and amd64?
[05:19] <D1> human beings NEED knowledge.
[05:19] <fredforfaen> but not this , it has helped me in almost every way , being a newbie that is
[05:19] <fredforfaen> not/note
[05:19] <thoreauputic> allen: ppc is mostly apple macs
[05:20] <osfameron> D1: yes, but I'd much rather have Wine, power management, touchpad and the 10 or so other problems I've got *just work*
[05:20] <allen> gotcha
[05:20] <zone17> Hi, I remember one time using some tool og some web service to check a domain on an apache server and get information back about how many virtal hosts was running on the same as the domain, does anyone here know what tool/service can do that?
[05:20] <osfameron> though I'm capable of eventually fixing them, I don't really want to :-)
[05:20] <carthik> kwikstah, it is in the universe repository which has to be enabled
[05:20] <D1> thats what windows is for. ;] 
[05:20] <carthik> kwikstah, personally i never had to compile anything so far
[05:20] <D1> I like somewhat of a challenge.
[05:20] <WTFchuck> but its like a new language, the manual doesn't make sense at first
[05:20] <D1> linux keeps me busy and entertained.
[05:20] <carthik> kwikstah, compiling sort of annuls the point of using a debian based system :)
[05:21] <D1> if I wanted everything to just work and run I'd go back to windows since I didn't have any problems with it.
[05:21] <WTFchuck> like right now i can't even figure out how to save my live configuration
[05:21] <D1> but linux is FUN FUN FUN
[05:21] <osfameron> D1: yeah, actually, I've considered that :-(
[05:21] <kwikstah> carthik: thanks for the info. i didn't know that about debian based systems
[05:21] <benz190ryda> ok kubuntu is on the way thanks for the help thor
[05:21] <osfameron> though some things like multiple workspaces, certain shiny things about gnome, gnome terminal, and synaptic (yum!) really make the difference
[05:22] <WTFchuck> it took me weeks just to get live to work
[05:22] <thoreauputic> benz190ryda: no worries - BTW you know you can tab-complete nicks, right?
[05:22] <benz190ryda> i just deleted the contents of source list then apt-setup
[05:22] <carthik> kwikstah, no probs :) there is also a multiverse repo with even more packages, and other repositories with extra packages as well.... all providing packages with the dependencies sort out. the wiki has a page on repositories -- i'll stop now ;)
[05:22] <benz190ryda> no
[05:22] <benz190ryda> i stall have a long way to go with linux
[05:22] <thoreauputic> benz190ryda: thore <hit tab>
[05:22] <WTFchuck> whats a bin........whats an image......it goes on and on
[05:22] <benz190ryda> i never chat
[05:22] <thoreauputic> benz190ryda: try it
[05:23] <benz190ryda> been using mandrake for a couple of years
[05:23] <pluffsy> what is that cli app that returns the key code for the key your pressing down?
[05:23] <carthik> pluffsy, xev
[05:23] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: xev
[05:23] <allen> How can I make the sounds work in my ubuntu?
[05:23] <pluffsy> thanks both
[05:23] <benz190ryda> thoreauputic,
[05:23] <benz190ryda> cool
[05:23] <carthik> allen, if no sounds are heard file a bug report
[05:23] <benz190ryda> lol
[05:23] <thoreauputic> benz190ryda: :D
[05:24] <dwerf> is it possible to sync one ubuntu-system with another totally, so they are identical?
[05:24] <turkey_joe> how can i install a .deb file???
[05:24] <thoreauputic> allen: try typing alsamixer in a terminal and see if any channels are muted - m to toggle mute/unmute
[05:24] <benz190ryda> i have kubuntu loades on my desktop and i just loaded on a compaq armada e500
[05:24] <thoreauputic> turkey_joe: what are you installing?
[05:25] <benz190ryda> had to put my hdd in another laptop with a working cdrom to get the os loaded
[05:25] <carthik> turkey_joe, it should be from a repository preferably an ubuntu repo - else you will have probs updating it later
[05:25] <araknooo> hey, I've just upgraded my duron 1ghz, 386mb, radeon 7500 system from hoary to breezy-preview and gnome feels slower than with hoary, I've checked the Xorg config and everything seems fine, does anyone know if it may be related to Gtk 2.8 being cairo based?
[05:25] <kwikstah> hey, in xchat 2.4.4 how do i get the program to flash when someone types my nick
[05:25] <allen> got it. I am using a motherboard with a built in sound card
[05:25] <dwerf> is it possible to sync one ubuntu-system with another totally, so they are identical?
[05:25] <turkey_joe> its a file with the .deb file extension
[05:26] <thoreauputic> turkey_joe: but what is it?
[05:26] <carthik> kwikstah, play around with prefs - it will beep audibly, and when someone mentions you name, the line will be highlighted-sort of
[05:26] <benz190ryda> has anyone ever gotten a pocket pc pda to work in linux?
[05:26] <allen> will it help if i put in a separate sound card?
[05:26] <thoreauputic> turkey_joe: chances are you are doing it the hard way
[05:26] <carthik> allen, might - but search for your soundcard and ubuntu on google
[05:26] <kwikstah> yeah, i notice that line gets highlighted sort-of
[05:26] <carthik> allen, you'll be able to find out why it does not work if needed
[05:26] <allen> ok
[05:27] <kwikstah> i don't know if i want it to beep per se, just have the window flash
[05:27] <inthenow> anyont know how to change alt right click to nothing?
[05:27] <thoreauputic> turkey_joe: just installing random .debs is a good way to have endless problems...
[05:27] <inthenow> interferes with almighty blender3d
[05:28] <carthik> kwikstah, dont think it can flash
[05:28] <kwikstah> oh well, i can live with beeping
[05:28] <turkey_joe> whould it be better to have the source code then?
[05:28] <Lord_nikon> hullo all
[05:28] <kwikstah> i think :)
[05:28] <xenomeliteforce> hi all! Does anyone know how to change the language in the Anjuta IDE? I currently have German, but English would be better
[05:29] <XsupremeX> Im new to Ubuntu and i need some help guys
[05:29] <thoreauputic> turkey_joe: no - it's better to use the package manager
[05:29] <XsupremeX> i am using the live CD
[05:29] <Lord_nikon> and
[05:29] <XsupremeX> i was wondering how you get the command prompt up
[05:29] <XsupremeX> for one
[05:29] <thoreauputic> turkey_joe: you know about synaptic package manager?
[05:29] <XsupremeX> and also
[05:29] <turkey_joe> Yes
[05:29] <WTFchuck_> test
[05:29] <WTFchuck_> hello?
[05:29] <XsupremeX> how i find my files
[05:29] <Seveas> !test
[05:29] <ubotu> Passed.
[05:29] <thoreauputic> turkey_joe: so what are you trying to install?
[05:30] <carthik> dwerf, data yes - _everything_ -- bad idea :)
[05:30] <Lord_nikon> XsupremeX:aplications,system tools,terminal
[05:30] <linuxsbartley> nickrud, thoreauputic,  I spoke with pitti on -devel.  "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" is the correct answer.  i.e. nickrud you were correct.:)  pitti also said that there really is no actual security risk with this solution, it was just disabled as part of the "proactive security" steps they have been taking.
[05:30] <XsupremeX> thnx
[05:30] <carthik> XsupremeX, and "find"
[05:30] <thoreauputic> linuxsbartley: thanks
[05:30] <occy> anyone know who to contact regarding firmware that gets shipped with Breezy?
[05:30] <carthik> XsupremeX, there is also "Search for files" in the places menu
[05:31] <linuxsbartley> np.  thx to all for the help.
[05:31] <XsupremeX> ya i was in system files
[05:31] <kwikstah> hey, i'm trying to add universe/multiverse right now. i'm looking at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto, and I follow the steps to add universe, but I don't see any multiverse repositories. do i need to do that somewhere else?
[05:31] <XsupremeX> but i couldnt find any of my files
[05:31] <occy> linuxsbartley,   :)
[05:31] <nickrud>  linuxsbartley thanks, I was gonna look into it later, you've save me some time :)
[05:31] <XsupremeX> for some reason
[05:31] <cyphase> how do you share a printer using ipp?
[05:31] <linuxsbartley> :)
[05:31] <thoreauputic> turkey_joe: hello? what's your answer?
[05:31] <linuxsbartley> occy, no offense taken.
[05:31] <linuxsbartley> :)
[05:31] <XsupremeX> carthik
[05:31] <occy> linuxsbartley, ok, just wanted to make sure my eyes weren't failing me.
[05:31] <XsupremeX> do you know why i cant find any of my files?
[05:31] <XsupremeX> i was in system files
[05:31] <carthik> cyphase, you set up cups to listen on the proper port and then you print to the ipp:..../printers/printer-name/ url
[05:31] <Lord_nikon> XsupremeX:that is cos u don't have access to windows files from linux
[05:31] <XsupremeX> and there isnt like my programs or anything
[05:32] <linuxsbartley> nope.  just needed to get to the bottom and get the "right" answer out.
[05:32] <XsupremeX> o
[05:32] <linuxsbartley> thx again.
[05:32] <Smirker> how do i mount a cdrom drive in terminal, or, how do i know what is the name of the device of my cd rom drives?
[05:32] <XsupremeX> hmm
[05:32] <XsupremeX> so i have to reinstall everything on ubuntu?
[05:32] <XsupremeX> lol
[05:32] <carthik> Smirker, "mount" will let you know what is already mounted
[05:32] <benz190ryda> thoreauputic, are u here
[05:32] <carthik> Smirker, putting in a new cd will auto mount it for you
[05:32] <Lord_nikon> u should have downloaded the install disk XsupremeX
[05:32] <thoreauputic> benz190ryda: yes
[05:32] <Smirker> maybe ubuntu doesnt like my cd drives ;o
[05:32] <Smirker> oh well
[05:32] <XsupremeX> well i already have windows installed... and im the only one who is interested in linux
[05:33] <carthik> Smirker, whats the matter?
[05:33] <XsupremeX> and i couldnt install it cuz they would be pissed
[05:33] <carthik> Smirker, try a different cd perhaps
[05:33] <Smirker> cant use cdrom in ubuntu
[05:33] <benz190ryda> why doesnt init 3 work in ubuntu
[05:33] <XsupremeX> so i used the live cd
[05:33] <Smirker> haha oh well :P
[05:33] <Smirker> doesnt matter, thc
[05:33] <Lord_nikon> XsupremeX,where on earth do u live
[05:33] <thoreauputic> benz190ryda: it does, but it doesn't kill X :)
[05:33] <XsupremeX> Michigan
[05:33] <Lord_nikon> bloody americans
[05:33] <XsupremeX> lol
[05:33] <carthik> wrong answer - Michigan is not on earth!
[05:34] <Lord_nikon> LOL
[05:34] <occy> carthik, haha
[05:34] <benz190ryda> how do i kill x
[05:34] <carthik> benz190ryda, kill, or restart?
[05:34] <occy> benz190ryda, ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:34] <thoreauputic> benz190ryda: if you need to totally kill X, do sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[05:34] <carthik> benz190ryda, ctrl-alt-backsp will restart
[05:34] <bip> they used to do mean rock back in the sixties in michigan ...
[05:34] <deFrysk> try init 2
[05:34] <kwikstah> can one not add multiverse from synaptic package mgr?
[05:34] <bip> do they produce geeks now ?
[05:34] <allen> what is synaptic? where can I find it?
[05:34] <carthik> kwikstah, can - just add the word in
[05:34] <deFrysk> oki
[05:34] <occy> any Ubuntu Developers here?
[05:34] <devo> I'm setting up a new system with both a / and a /home directory.  How large of a /home directory should I set up for my Ubuntu system?  Is there some kind of standard number?
[05:34] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: init 2 will do nothing
[05:34] <carthik> allen, gksudo synaptic & will start synaptic from a terminal
[05:35] <Lord_nikon> only way is to burn ur windows files on a disk and run it with linux
[05:35] <Belutz> occy: go to #ubuntu-devel maybe?
[05:35] <occy> Belutz, yeah, they are all asleep
[05:35] <carthik> devo, /home is where all the user files will be so make it as big as possible
[05:35] <XsupremeX> o wow
[05:35] <bip> devo depends how big is your hd
[05:35] <Belutz> ic
[05:35] <XsupremeX> well that isnt good
[05:35] <XsupremeX> lol
[05:35] <allen> you mean type gksudo synaptic in the shell?
[05:35] <XsupremeX> so there is no way unless i reinstall or burn them?
[05:35] <bip> and what sort of files you love to download devo
[05:35] <Belutz> !tell XsupremeX about windowsdrives
[05:35] <XsupremeX> yes plz
[05:35] <XsupremeX> lol
[05:35] <Lord_nikon> and take billy gates of ur system mate
[05:36] <thoreauputic> allen:  it's in the menu as Package MAnager as well
[05:36] <Lord_nikon> of course
[05:36] <allen> ok
[05:36] <devo> bip, i forgot about the downloading of files part.  if i just stick with configuration files and such it might not take much.
[05:36] <Belutz> carthik: good luck mate!
[05:36] <benz190ryda> ok thanks
[05:37] <kwikstah> thanks carthik
[05:37] <devo> maybe I should be looking at the / directory size more than the /home size as the limiting factor.
[05:37] <carthik> devo, but if you are using the computer, then you have to put your files somewhere, right?
[05:37] <benz190ryda> going to install kubuntu now see ya later
[05:37] <Lord_nikon> must be off to buy some fags,later lads
[05:37] <Belutz> devo: what's the size of your hdd?
[05:37] <carthik> devo, right, i use /boot = 250MB, / = 8 gigs and /home = (200G - the rest)
[05:37] <XsupremeX> hmmm
[05:38] <XsupremeX> can you tell me about windowsdrives belutz?
[05:38] <devo> yes, carthik, but some of that will depend on how I'm going to use the computer.  this is like a 4 meg drive on an old Thinkpad 600.
[05:38] <carthik> 8 gigs is prolly too much, but i figure i will not want to run out of space for packages and such
[05:38] <carthik> devo 4 MEG?
[05:38] <devo> gig.  sorry
[05:38] <Belutz> XsupremeX: that winmac_fstab script will automatically mount all your windows partition at startup
[05:38] <XsupremeX> and how do i do that belutz?
[05:39] <qatsi> when is the full release of version 5.1 Breeze Badger ?
[05:39] <carthik> devo lol :) okay, you can keep deleting the package .deb files from apt... apt-get clean i think will do it
[05:39] <Lethal-Rocks> 13th October
[05:39] <Pyf> hey, i think ive managed to share a  folder, how would i go about accessing it on a windows machine....??
[05:39] <Belutz> XsupremeX: download the scripts and do "sudo ./winmac_fstab" in the shell
[05:39] <dazjorz> heya
[05:39] <qatsi> Lethal-Rocks: thanx :)
[05:39] <carthik> qatsi, 5.10 (the 10 is for october)
[05:39] <dazjorz> fast question... how to mount an iso again? I forget all the time
[05:39] <Lethal-Rocks> Pyf, same way you would on another windows PC
[05:39] <linuxsbartley> Can anyone tell me if there is a tool or instructions on creating a liveCD from a built ubuntu system?
[05:39] <XsupremeX> umm where can i dl the scripts?
[05:39] <dazjorz> I still remember mount -o loop
[05:39] <carthik> dazjorz, look it up at ubuntuguide.org
[05:39] <XsupremeX> can you do a priv chat with me belutz?
[05:39] <Belutz> XsupremeX: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[05:40] <XsupremeX> so we can talk easier
[05:40] <kwikstah> hey, what's the difference between a terminal window, and the window i get when i type xterm
[05:40] <Belutz> XsupremeX: of course
[05:40] <XsupremeX> thnx
[05:40] <dazjorz> carthik: thanks a lot -_-"
[05:40] <devo> carthik, i'd like to get my old IBM "butterfly" system running on Linux but it has a tiny drive.  540 megs as I recall.
[05:40] <Pyf> Lethal-Rocks: this ubuntu machine has machine name sigmasi, when on a windows machine i \\sigmasi it says the network path was not found
[05:40] <thoreauputic> kwikstah: none
[05:40] <carthik> kwikstah, like firefox vs. opera
[05:40] <Lethal-Rocks> What about hostname though ;)
[05:40] <kwikstah> ok
[05:40] <carthik> dazjorz, anytime
[05:40] <Pyf> Lethal-Rocks: thats what i mean sigmasi is the hostname
[05:41] <Lethal-Rocks> try IP
[05:41] <Pyf> at least i think it is!
[05:41] <thoreauputic> kwikstah: both are terminal emulators
[05:41] <dazjorz> carthik: probably, the command I asked for was about as long as that answer. You could've just answered, it would've spared me out much time.
[05:41] <devo> Thanks for the help, carthik and bip.
[05:41] <kwikstah> but then why doesn't it look like my terminal, i.e. new window is smaller, font is slightly different, etc
[05:41] <bip> well did i help ?
[05:41] <kwikstah> thoreauputic: so you're saying they are different emulators
[05:41] <carthik> dazjorz, yeah, but i like teaching fishing as opposed to feeding fish ;)
[05:41] <bip> i didn t realize i did ;-)
[05:41] <Pyf> Lethal-Rocks: do u mean \\192.168.1.101 that gives save network path not found
[05:41] <matthews> where is the best place to move a downloaded .bin file before i install it as im trying to install realplayer for linux though it wants to install in my home directory
[05:41] <dazjorz> carthik: you just lost me on that answer... huh ?
[05:41] <devo> bip, gave me the right thinking on it.  sometimes I just need some feedback to figure out what the plan is.
[05:41] <thoreauputic> kwikstah: yes, just different apps - like different browsers etc
[05:41] <Lethal-Rocks> pyf, you sure you hav samba
[05:42] <kwikstah> thanks
[05:42] <bip> ah ok
[05:42] <thoreauputic> kwikstah: some prefer one over another
[05:42] <dazjorz> carthik: "iso" wasn't found on that page.
[05:42] <bip> glad i was of some help
[05:42] <carthik> dazjorz, "feed a man, and you keep him happy for a day, teach a man to fish and you keep him happy forever" -- that sort of thing
[05:42] <Pyf> Lethal-Rocks: i can acceess the windows machine, and i can set it up so it looks like its being shared!
[05:42] <kwikstah> thoreauputic: what are the reasons for that
[05:42] <thoreauputic> kwikstah: for instnce I like aterm and urxvt
[05:42] <kwikstah> thoreauputic: i don't even know what those are
[05:42] <Belutz> XsupremeX: yes i'm here
[05:42] <dazjorz> carthik: aaaaaaaaa...allright.
[05:43] <XsupremeX> go to priv again
[05:43] <dazjorz> carthik: ;)
[05:43] <thoreauputic> kwikstah: some are lighter on resources, some look different etc
[05:43] <carthik> dazjorz, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountisofileswithoutburning
[05:43] <inthenow> which window manager is best in breezy? how do i unassign alt mouse commands. its interfering with blender
[05:43] <thoreauputic> kwikstah: they are just other terminal emulators, like xterm or gnome-terminal
[05:43] <kwikstah> thoreauputic: i figured as much
[05:43] <Lethal-Rocks> inthenow, Window Managers arre a matter of preferance
[05:44] <carthik> kwikstah, some of them are transparent, some allow tabs, some have more preferences to play with etc
[05:44] <Lethal-Rocks> Anyone know how I can get IPv6 working in BitTornado?
[05:44] <thoreauputic> kwikstah: most things in *nix are like that - lots of choices :)
[05:44] <inthenow> in gnome, how do i unassign alt mouse commands except for the program i using in it. I think gnome is keyboard shortcut over configured
[05:44] <Lord_nikon> back with fags
[05:45] <Belutz> XsupremeX: u there?
[05:45] <holycow> oh lordy
[05:45] <XsupremeX> ya
[05:45] <neighborlee> I took the config file from current default kernel ubuntu installs with ( was in /boot) and tried to do 'make' but im getting a error and Idont see how thats possible ( with the 2.6.10 source I downloaded) ie: In file included from drivers/media/dvb/frontends/dib3000mb.c:34:
[05:45] <neighborlee> drivers/media/dvb/frontends/dib3000mb_priv.h:354:2: invalid preprocessing directive #defind ????
[05:45] <XsupremeX> dude
[05:45] <XsupremeX> other channel
[05:45] <holycow> copy paste from oo.o2 to other programs is working really quite great
[05:45] <Belutz> ic
[05:45] <linuxsbartley> We want to install Ubuntu Server, add our necessary apps and packages and then roll that up into a live CD.  Can anyone point to help on this?
[05:45] <Lethal-Rocks> inthenow, System, Preferences, windows
[05:45] <Belutz> :)
[05:45] <holycow> i managed to copy paste a graphic from oo.o2 to gimp even
[05:45] <holycow> weeeeird
[05:45] <Lord_nikon> indeed
[05:46] <Pyf> An error occurred while trying to share folder '/home/sam/Desktop/Music'. Make sure that the Perl script 'fileshareset' is set suid root. actually it says that, how do i do that?
[05:46] <XsupremeX> Belutz?
[05:46] <Belutz> XsupremeX: yes, i'm here, why don't you pm me?
[05:46] <inthenow> Lethal-Rocks: finally...thanks so much
[05:46] <Belutz> XsupremeX: or let's just talk here
[05:46] <Lord_nikon> anyone know if the network bug in kubuntu is fixed on breezy
[05:47] <XsupremeX> hey umm so do i just copy that script and put it in system files?
[05:47] <Belutz> XsupremeX: yes
[05:47] <XsupremeX> k
[05:47] <XsupremeX> in a text doc>
[05:47] <XsupremeX> ??
[05:47] <Belutz> XsupremeX: copy it, run it, and you may delete it after that
[05:47] <XsupremeX> k
[05:48] <XsupremeX> umm also
[05:48] <Belutz> XsupremeX: yup
[05:48] <XsupremeX> do i copy the whole thing
[05:48] <XsupremeX> or
[05:48] <XsupremeX> just
[05:48] <carthik> linuxsbartley, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//LiveCDCustomizationHowTo
[05:48] <XsupremeX> the part at
[05:48] <XsupremeX> # Root Check
[05:48] <Belutz> XsupremeX: the whole thing
[05:48] <XsupremeX> ok
[05:48] <eukreign> anyone here have Ubuntu working on the new Dell 5100C ? i'm having trouble with the xserver
[05:48] <linuxsbartley> carthik, this is for customizing the existing ubuntu livecd we want to create a new livecd from a server install.
[05:49] <carthik> linuxsbartley, take some off, put some in and there you are....
[05:49] <carthik> linuxsbartley, a search should turn up more of what you want, i have read it at the forums before.
[05:49] <windex> hm. im having issues getting vesafb to work. whenever i specify a mode i get just a blank screen until X starts.
[05:49] <linuxsbartley> carthik, hmmm.  did not seem to work very well when we did it that way.
[05:50] <XsupremeX> for some reason it cant save
[05:50] <Belutz> XsupremeX: you could save it in your home directory
[05:50] <XsupremeX> ok
[05:50] <Lord_nikon> indeed
[05:51] <kwikstah> another question: how come when i tried to use apt-get to install eclipse-jdt, i got an error about some file being locked (sorry i don't have the err msg handy anymore), but when i tried doing it from synaptic pkgmgr, it installed without complaint
[05:51] <linuxsbartley> carthik, was hoping to find documentation on how the original live cd gets created so we could recreate that from a built system.
[05:51] <XsupremeX> now how do i run it?
[05:51] <reiki_work> kwikstah: you can't apt-get while synaptic is open (and vise versa
[05:51] <Belutz> XsupremeX: open a terminat and type this "sudo ./winmac_fstab" (without the quote)
[05:51] <kwikstah> more important question: when i run eclipse, i get an err. when i look in the logs, i see this at the top: !SESSION 2005-09-16 08:47:45.26 ------------------------------------------------
[05:51] <kwikstah> eclipse.buildId=
[05:51] <kwikstah> java.fullversion=GNU libgcj 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.1-4ubuntu6)
[05:51] <kwikstah> BootLoader constants: OS=linux, ARCH=x86, WS=gtk, NL=en_US
[05:51] <kwikstah> Command-line arguments:  -os linux -ws gtk -arch x86
[05:51] <carthik> linuxsbartley, i dont know any better...
[05:51] <kwikstah> !ENTRY org.eclipse.update.configurator 2005-09-16 08:47:47.627
[05:51] <ubotu> Wish i knew, kwikstah
[05:51] <kwikstah> !MESSAGE /usr/local/lib/eclipse/plugins is not a valid plugins directory.
[05:51] <ubotu> that's too long, kwikstah
[05:51] <kwikstah> !ENTRY org.eclipse.osgi 2005-09-16 08:47:54.818
[05:51] <ubotu> I don't know, kwikstah
[05:51] <linuxsbartley> carthik, k. thx.
[05:51] <kwikstah> !MESSAGE An error occurred while automatically activating bundle org.eclipse.core.resources (22).
[05:51] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, kwikstah
[05:52] <Belutz> dont paste here
[05:52] <XsupremeX> EEEK I CANT READ
[05:52] <XsupremeX> lol
[05:52] <Seveas> kwikstah, f* iff
[05:52] <Quinthius> does xchat not allow connects to multiple servers now? or where can i set that?
[05:52] <carthik> kwikstah, dont paste stuff here, please
[05:52] <Seveas> off even
[05:52] <Belutz> XsupremeX: open a terminal and type this "sudo ./winmac_fstab" (without the quote)
[05:52] <Lord_nikon> ah,vlc
[05:52] <XsupremeX> umm
[05:52] <XsupremeX> says command not found
[05:53] <deFrysk> Seveas, why not an autokick for people who paste more then 4 lines ?
[05:53] <Belutz> XsupremeX: where do you save the winmac_fstab ?
[05:53] <XsupremeX> i saved it in home
[05:53] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: not very noob friendly :)
[05:53] <Belutz> XsupremeX: try this then "sudo sh ./winmac_fstab"
[05:54] <XsupremeX> k
[05:54] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, true true :D
[05:54] <dazjorz> how to convert .BIN files to .ISO files ?
[05:54] <Belutz> XsupremeX: and make sure you are on your home directory
[05:54] <XsupremeX> says no such directory or file
[05:54] <dazjorz> I've got a .CUE, if that matters
[05:55] <Belutz> XsupremeX: did you save the file as winmac_fstab or other name?
[05:55] <setite-SFD> so what do you guys think of gentoo
[05:55] <thoreauputic> dazjorz:  bchunk
[05:55] <XsupremeX> o other name
[05:55] <Lord_nikon> good good
[05:55] <XsupremeX> lol
[05:55] <XsupremeX> i saved it as windowsferf
[05:55] <Belutz> XsupremeX: :)
[05:55] <mouse> Need: Howto make your Ubuntu computer to a perfect FTP server, someone that can help? /pm
[05:55] <XsupremeX> so just replace as that?
[05:55] <deFrysk> setite-SFD, nothing , this is not a gentoo channel
[05:55] <Belutz> XsupremeX: yup
[05:55] <XsupremeX> k
[05:55] <XsupremeX> thnx
[05:55] <XsupremeX> ima try it now
[05:55] <setite-SFD> deFrysk - im just wondering what peoples opinions are... ive seen other os's discussed briefyly here many many times
[05:56] <Skaja> can some one help me with my forum post
[05:56] <D1> mouse, check out vsftpd
[05:56] <Skaja> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66202
[05:56] <Belutz> setite-SFD: never try it before, so i can't comment
[05:56] <XsupremeX> do i want to make the disks
[05:56] <XsupremeX> writable
[05:56] <D1> its pretty easy to setup and has lots of options
[05:56] <XsupremeX> by all users?
[05:56] <deFrysk> setite-SFD, /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:56] <thoreauputic> setite-SFD: probably more appropriate for #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:56] <Belutz> XsupremeX: yes
[05:56] <XsupremeX> k
[05:56] <XsupremeX> k it says theyre mounted now
[05:56] <XsupremeX> so now how do i find them?
[05:57] <Belutz> XsupremeX: hmm I forgot the command
[05:57] <matthews> hi -  is there a "preferred" place to download .bin files before executing, im a linux n00b here and ive downloaded realplayer and am not sure whether to execute it in my home directory ??
[05:57] <XsupremeX> shit... lol
[05:57] <Belutz> guys, what's the command for reloading the fstab?
[05:57] <Belutz> XsupremeX: i'm a n00b too actually :D
[05:57] <deFrysk> matthews, try the wiki for realplayer
[05:57] <XsupremeX> lol
[05:57] <thoreauputic> Belutz: mount -a
[05:57] <XsupremeX> same here
[05:57] <XsupremeX> for linux
[05:57] <ui> how do i delete a directory?
[05:58] <deFrysk> !tell matthews about realplayer
[05:58] <XsupremeX> i wanted to start using it though
[05:58] <Answer> ui: man rmdir
[05:58] <XsupremeX> ooo
[05:58] <XsupremeX> nvm
[05:58] <ui> ok
[05:58] <XsupremeX> i found out
[05:58] <XsupremeX> how
[05:58] <Belutz> XsupremeX: there... type "sudo mount -a"
[05:58] <XsupremeX> i just used
[05:58] <ui> thanks answer
[05:58] <XsupremeX> file browser
[05:58] <XsupremeX> that works 2
[05:58] <Belutz> XsupremeX: great :) you could check it in /media/xxx
[05:58] <XsupremeX> :D thnx for the help Belutz
[05:59] <allen> wohoo!! got my sounds working! I muted "IEC958 Capture Monitor" in alsamixer
[05:59] <CarlFK> where is the right place to call a script on boot?
[05:59] <Belutz> XsupremeX: no worries mate :) welcome to the community :)
[05:59] <matthews> deFrysk - thanks for the tip - i'll try that :o)
[05:59] <Answer> Question: I need to grep a file for one line that begins with Fri and then the next line begins with Battery.  "grep -e ^Fri -e Battery"   is close, but I only want the lines that are consecutive
[05:59] <XsupremeX> ^^
[05:59] <thoreauputic> allen: :)
[05:59] <LethAway`away> Does anyone know how to get BitTornado to work with IPv6?
[05:59] <Belutz> CarlFK: /etc/init.d perhaps ?
[05:59] <Seveas> CarlFK, /etc/rcS.d/
[05:59] <Belutz> CarlFK: go with what Seveas just said :)
[06:00] <Lord_nikon> later all,off to the football
[06:00] <LethAway`away> Anyone?
[06:00] <allen> Can Yahoo Messenger be played in Linux using Wine?
[06:00] <Seveas> no
[06:00] <dl> Hi, can anybody help me with an ubuntu installation question regarding disk partioning?
[06:00] <Seveas> !ask
[06:00] <Belutz> allen: i never get it to work
[06:00] <Skaja> where did s30setserial file go to
[06:00] <Seveas> !tell dl about ask
[06:01] <dl> Well, I get to the partition disk step, and I'm not sure what to do....
[06:01] <dl> I want to have dual boot...
[06:01] <dl> So I go to the manually edit partition table option...
[06:01] <Seveas> dl, windows already installed?
[06:01] <allen> :(
[06:01] <scanwinder> when i run "scantv" i get the following error: "vbi: open failed [/dev/vbi] "        i cant seem to get it to use /dev/video0 which the device is...............anyone know how2 fix this?
[06:01] <dl> Seveas, Yes, lots of stuff that I need to keep.
[06:01] <deFrysk> allen, use gaim
[06:01] <Seveas> ok, already a few empty partitions/some empty space for linux?
[06:01] <dl> Anyway, I select the partition labelled #1 primary
[06:01] <scanwinder> i tried symlinking /dev/video0 to /dev/vbi
[06:01] <Belutz> allen: i fall in love with gaim :D
[06:01] <thoreauputic> allen: gaim can do yahoo I think
[06:01] <thespiritoftal> anyone who uses gmailfs here? I need help
[06:01] <dl> Seveas lots of empty space
[06:02] <Seveas> scanwinder, ln -s /dev/video0 /dev/vbi
[06:02] <Skaja> can some one help m with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66202
[06:02] <XsupremeX> weeee
[06:02] <swamplover> Help for a poor struggling newbie, please!  I changed screen resolution in x.org from 832x624 to 102424x 768 (running on standard 17" monitor), installed a lot of cool new stuff, (don't think there's any connection here, though), now can't setup nvidia-glx without reversing this. Any workarounds, please...?
[06:02] <XsupremeX> this is sweet
[06:02] <XsupremeX> lol
[06:02] <Seveas> dl, i meant unpartitioned space :)
[06:02] <allen> What does this mean? "There is no element present to handle the stream's mime type audio/mpeg."
[06:02] <dl> Seveas No, nothing unpartitioned.
[06:02] <deFrysk> !tell allen about resticted formats
[06:02] <dl> Seveas I wanted to use part of the ntfs partition.  Is that possible?
[06:02] <Belutz> XsupremeX: what is it? :D
[06:02] <scanwinder> seveas: ive tried that already
[06:02] <XsupremeX> i found all my files
[06:03] <XsupremeX> cept my desktop files
[06:03] <Seveas> dl, then find the 'make room for ubuntu' or 'resize ntfs partition' option
[06:03] <XsupremeX> but ill find those 2
[06:03] <XsupremeX> so no worrys
[06:03] <XsupremeX> :D
[06:03] <Seveas> don't know its exact name
[06:03] <Belutz> XsupremeX: great :)
[06:03] <Seveas> but you cannot use part of the ntfs partition, you need to shrink it and create new partitions
[06:03] <deFrysk> allen https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:03] <allen> thanks
[06:03] <dl> Seveas I can't seem to find out how to shrink the partition.  I guess I don't know which option.  I'll look through some more and see if I can find anything.
[06:04] <kandinski> I am installing ubuntu on an oldish laptop (300 Mhz Celeron with 64 M ram)
[06:04] <deFrysk> kandinski, run it with xfce4
[06:04] <deFrysk> as wm
[06:04] <kandinski> any advice on performance and disk footprint? (it also has 4Gb, of which about half will have to be reserved for dualbooting win 98 and documents)
[06:05] <kandinski> deFrysk: thanks. but it is for my "no I don't know computers" friend
[06:05] <dl> Seveas if I move the cursor to the line that shows my ntfs partition and press enter, I get a screen that shows the partition attributes, including size.  When I click on the Size though, it doesn't seem to give me an option to change it.
[06:05] <deFrysk> kandinski, ubuntu needs 2 gigs minimum
[06:05] <kandinski> he is only letting me do this because I told him it was the last time I would emergency-fix his computer if he kept it on win98 only
[06:05] <Answer> Question: I need to grep a file for one line that begins with Fri and then the next line begins with Battery.  "grep -e ^Fri -e Battery"   is close, but I only want the lines that are consecutive
[06:05] <dl> Seveas, the screen says "Before the resize operation takes place ...", but there is no way to change it that I see.
[06:06] <Seveas> deFrysk, standard install takes 1.2GB
[06:06] <XsupremeX> Found desktop icons and old files
[06:06] <thoreauputic> kandinski: 64 MB is not enough for gnome
[06:06] <XsupremeX> :D
[06:06] <kandinski> can't you have a lighter, smaller ubuntu otherwise than by removing stuff post-install?
[06:06] <thoreauputic> kandinski: sure
[06:06] <kandinski> ok, I will run it with xfce4, this will actually be good for me
[06:06] <deFrysk> seveas forgot about swap
[06:06] <kandinski> thanks thoreauputic
[06:06] <kandinski> great nick too!
[06:06] <thoreauputic> kandinski: you have to do a server install, then add stuff
[06:07] <thoreauputic> kandinski: it requires that you be comfortable with apt-get
[06:07] <Myrtti> kwikstah wants to get the ban off
[06:07] <kandinski> I am confortable with apt-get all right
[06:07] <Myrtti> he'll behave good this time
[06:07] <kandinski> but this laptop only has a modem
[06:07] <swamplover> Help for a poor struggling newbie, please! Running ubuntu hoary on a standard 17" monitor, changed resolution in xorg.conf from 832x624 to 1024x768, now can't set up nvidia-glx without undoing this!  Any workarounds, please...?
[06:08] <eno> general question: when does Breezy get released?
[06:08] <deFrysk> kandinski, you'll do fine then make sure to keep it light (no OO.o)
[06:08] <Quinthius> eno: mid octoboer
[06:08] <Myrtti> 13th Oct
[06:08] <kandinski> I should go out and get him a pcmcia card
[06:08] <eno> thanks!
[06:08] <LethAway`away> swamplover, undo it, and redo it afterwards
[06:08] <thoreauputic> kandinski: then do a server install, then sudo apt-get x-window-system-core gdm xterm xfce4
[06:08] <kandinski> deFrysk: I am afraid then he will have to do without: OO.o is his toolchain
[06:08] <thoreauputic> kandinski: then add stuff ad-lib
[06:08] <kandinski> thoreauputic: check
[06:09] <thoreauputic> kandinski: like sylpheed for mail, dillo  browser
[06:09] <deFrysk> kandinski, absolutelu , try abiword
[06:09] <thoreauputic> both light
[06:09] <thoreauputic> yes abiword
[06:09] <Belutz> XsupremeX: yes?
[06:09] <deFrysk> absolutely*
[06:09] <XsupremeX> do you know why my computer is moving so slow?
[06:09] <XsupremeX> since using ubuntu
[06:09] <digitize> XsupremeX: gnome? :>
[06:09] <carthik> HrdwrBoB, can you please unban kwikstah - sorry if this request is inappropriate or youre busy or something :)
[06:09] <thoreauputic> kandinski: firefox will run, but it satrats slowly on a 64MB box
[06:09] <thoreauputic> *starts
[06:09] <Belutz> XsupremeX: hmmm don't know about that, my computer running faster than my XP :p
[06:10] <dl> Can anybody tell me how to get to the "Resize partition" option when installing Ubuntu?
[06:10] <XsupremeX> o lol
[06:10] <digitize> XsupremeX: try out xfce
[06:10] <kandinski> dillo I will try, it is the only one I don't know about
[06:10] <digitize> it's a nice light desktop environment
[06:10] <XsupremeX> umm also
[06:10] <XsupremeX> i was wondering
[06:10] <deFrysk> kandinski, as an ugly alternative you could use the opera browser (static version)
[06:10] <XsupremeX> if i restart mycomputer
[06:10] <Belutz> yes xfce is nice
[06:10] <XsupremeX> and umm
[06:10] <thoreauputic> kandinski: dillo is lightning quick but limited
[06:10] <XsupremeX> will all my files and everything still be here?
[06:10] <XsupremeX> cuz this is a live cd
[06:10] <kandinski> this is a survival kit
[06:10] <XsupremeX> its not an actual Ubuntu
[06:10] <Belutz> XsupremeX: hmmm i don't think so
[06:11] <kandinski> just so you know: this guy only uses webmail, so sylpheed is as out as thunderbird or evolution
[06:11] <XsupremeX> you dont think my files will be there?
[06:11] <Belutz> XsupremeX: maybe other people know the exact answer
[06:11] <allen> where can I find decoders to play mp3s, divx, xvid?
[06:11] <thoreauputic> kandinski: OK - he will need firefox for webmail I would say
[06:11] <XsupremeX> Does any1 else know??
[06:11] <kandinski> he is a writer, he writes, does budgets on spreadsheet, surfs, uses webmail. That is his thing.
[06:11] <XsupremeX> if ur using a live cd
[06:11] <deFrysk> allen I gave you a link for restricted formats
[06:11] <XsupremeX> will ur files still be there when you reboot?
[06:11] <thoreauputic> kandinski: dillo doesn't do ssl / https
[06:12] <kandinski> thoreauputic: thanks. dillo javascript support not good?
[06:12] <thoreauputic> kandinski: non existent
[06:12] <XsupremeX> Does anyone here know?
[06:12] <kandinski> ok
[06:12] <XsupremeX> lol
[06:12] <Belutz> XsupremeX: what files you want to save ?
[06:12] <thoreauputic> kandinski: still worth installing - it's tiny
[06:12] <XsupremeX> well like all of them
[06:13] <XsupremeX> lol
[06:13] <kandinski> thanks thoreauputic deFrysk, I see that Ubuntu will mostly be a survival kit for me to save his work in case of problems. Also for autopsy (the program, not the procedure).
[06:13] <Belutz> XsupremeX: you talking about files on your linux partition or on your windows partition?
[06:13] <deFrysk> lol kandinski
[06:13] <XsupremeX> windows
[06:13] <kandinski> if this guy weren't one of my closest friends I would be chucking him out on the street.
[06:13] <thoreauputic> Myrtti: you there? what was that about a ban?
[06:13] <XsupremeX> like aim, warcraft, trillian etc
[06:13] <Belutz> XsupremeX: ow... it will stay there :D
[06:14] <XsupremeX> k
[06:14] <Belutz> XsupremeX: don't worry about it :)
[06:14] <XsupremeX> k
[06:14] <XsupremeX> also
[06:14] <XsupremeX> i cant run aim
[06:14] <XsupremeX> for some reason
[06:14] <XsupremeX> Couldn't display "/home/ubuntu/Desktop/aim.exe"
[06:14] <CarlFK> what I want to run on boot is pastebot - I think i need to run it in screen, and not as root.  is there an easy way, or do I figure out the su/screen commands?
[06:14] <Answer> XsupremeX: use gaim.
[06:14] <Belutz> aim.exe?
[06:14] <deFrysk> exe ?
[06:15] <deFrysk> lol
[06:15] <XsupremeX> yes that was the aim.exe
[06:15] <Answer> XsupremeX: use gaim
[06:15] <allen> ok will start from there
[06:15] <Belutz> XsupremeX: linux can't execute .exe files
[06:15] <XsupremeX> o
[06:15] <XsupremeX> well how do i launch them then?
[06:15] <Answer> XsupremeX: Use gaim.  Do not continue to ask about aim.exe here unless you are running a windows emulator...
[06:15] <deFrysk> those poor M$ heads
[06:15] <Belutz> XsupremeX: use gaim...
[06:15] <XsupremeX> umm
[06:15] <XsupremeX> what about
[06:15] <XsupremeX> warcraft?
[06:15] <XsupremeX> how do i run that...
[06:15] <XsupremeX> ??
[06:15] <XsupremeX> lol
[06:16] <Belutz> XsupremeX: you could use wine or cadega
[06:16] <deFrysk> cedega*
[06:16] <XsupremeX> umm whats that??
[06:16] <Answer> XsupremeX: Join the petitions for a port of Warcraft to Linux
[06:16] <gabberman> need help for ISA sound card installion? anyone?
[06:17] <Belutz> deFrysk: ths for the correction :)
[06:17] <XsupremeX> ima brb ima reboot the comp... cuz its running really slow....
[06:17] <pluffsy> hello (again)
[06:17] <osfameron> ffs, following instructions in !wine, IE setup still fails
[06:17] <XsupremeX> so  brb
[06:17] <osfameron> only it takes 30 minutes longer
[06:17] <osfameron> to get to that point, I mean
[06:17] <gabberman> anyone know the ISA terminal codes for installing an ISA sound CARD?
[06:17] <Myrtti> there you go
[06:17] <pluffsy> clicking on the trackpad is right now handled like a mouse left click. can I somehow remove this behavior?
[06:18] <Myrtti> kwikstah: have fun
[06:18] <pluffsy> The Mouse preferences don't provide any options for this (that I can see anyway)
[06:18] <thoreauputic> kwikstah: OK now?
[06:19] <Sudo> wazup
[06:19] <gabberman> Sound card help anyone??
[06:19] <kwikstah> hello, sorry about that
[06:19] <thoreauputic> OK
[06:19] <thoreauputic> kwikstah: I guess you won't do it again ;-)
[06:20] <kwikstah> yup, i won't
[06:20] <Sudo> does anyone know where to get the drivers for D-link DFM-562is? thanks
[06:20] <gabberman> sound card help anyone?
[06:21] <CodeWarrior_> hello folks
[06:21] <LethAway`away> Why hello tere
[06:21] <inthenow> how do i put flash in the web browser
[06:21] <inthenow> can i do it in the browser now?
[06:21] <CodeWarrior_> I'd like to know if there's somebody here that use Ubuntu PPC on OldWorld Macs G3 beige ?
[06:21] <erUSUL> !tell inthenow about flash
[06:22] <CodeWarrior_> nobody ?
[06:23] <LethAL-Rocks> CodeWarrior_, nope
[06:23] <allen> thanks guys! I have to go now.. I'll catch you tomorrow!
[06:23] <gabberman> I too need help
[06:23] <gabberman> :)
[06:23] <gabberman> heh
[06:23] <LethAL-Rocks> So do I
[06:23] <gabberman> heh
[06:23] <CodeWarrior_> yeah, I think so
[06:24] <dex> Hello everybody, is ubuntu 5.10 ok for a new user of linux like me?
[06:25] <LethAL-Rocks> dex, no no no no no!
[06:25] <LethAL-Rocks> dex, go back to Hoary
[06:25] <dex> Lethal_Rocks: but why?
[06:26] <dex> isn't it the latest ubuntu?
[06:26] <GoClick> How do I shutdown X, I keep trying to edit my xorg.conf from inside of it (it's trying to make my monitor do way too high of resolutions) and I make my edits save the file and then logout or restart and it's right back to the way it was, so I figure if I edit from a consol I'll be ok. But I don't know how to shutdown X, I tried killing x-session-manager and I got kicked out of my consol and back to the X login screen. So how do I exit X to a consol?
[06:26] <Rockett18> dex> it's still in development
[06:26] <pluffsy> dex: it's just a preview release
[06:26] <pluffsy> dex: I am new to ubuntu too and installed it, couldn't even get it log in. nothing worked for me.
[06:26] <LethAL-Rocks> GoClick, You can't really shut it down, but Ctrl-Alt-Backspace will restart it
[06:26] <^DodGeR^> howdy all
[06:26] <kwikstah> interesting. installation worked perfectly for me
[06:27] <GoClick> How can I boot to a consol?
[06:27] <tokenbad> I have installed proftpd and when installed I messed up and told it to use inetd to run...I then removed it...and reinstalled but it didn't ask me any of the stuff like it did the first time...is there a way to remove proftpd so I can reinstall it to use standalone?
[06:27] <LethAL-Rocks> You don't need to to change xorg.conf
[06:27] <dex> Hoary or woody?
[06:27] <LethAL-Rocks> dex, hoary
[06:27] <CarlFK> woody?
[06:27] <dex> ok
[06:27] <LethAL-Rocks> CarlFK, Woody is an older release
[06:27] <GoClick> LethAL-Rocks what do I need to change? The resolution switcher isn't workinfg
[06:27] <GoClick> ignore that f
[06:28] <LethAL-Rocks> GoClick, one mo
[06:28] <erUSUL> GoClick: boot to single user mode in grub menu
[06:28] <tokenbad> anyone know?
[06:28] <steven_Laptop> some laptop help needed my friends :( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66208
[06:29] <meuserj|work> When I try starting xchat using a Tor proxy, I get banned from #ubuntu... anyone here know why?
[06:29] <grodius> I'm on an HTTP proxy at school, and i'm looking for a way to run torrents, does anyone know how?
[06:29] <LethAL-Rocks> GoClick, Under sections "Screen"
[06:29] <miguel> hi
[06:29] <miguel> can some1 help me out'
[06:29] <LethAL-Rocks> GoClick, Chane the modes in each subsection
[06:29] <miguel> ?
[06:29] <swack> help!
[06:29] <darkheart> !helpme
[06:29] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[06:29] <miguel> i messed up with my winxp mbr
[06:29] <miguel> now i cannot boot win
[06:29] <thoreauputic> meuserj|work: I believe tor has been a source of bot problems and other evils
[06:29] <tokenbad> I have installed proftpd and when installed I messed up and told it to use inetd to run...I then removed it...and reinstalled but it didn't ask me any of the stuff like it did the first time...is there a way to remove proftpd so I can reinstall it to use standalone?
[06:30] <miguel> how can I repair my mbr of my winxp hard drive from linux?
[06:30] <LethAL-Rocks> miguel, you can't
[06:30] <swack> I had mysql installed, but uninstalled & deleted mysql init script... now I'm reinstalling mysql, but the install fails b/c it can't find /etc/init.d/mysql
[06:30] <swack> shouldn't that be included in the install?
[06:30] <Answer> tokenbad:  sudo apt-get remove --purge proftp    then reinstall and it will prompt you
[06:30] <LethAL-Rocks> miguel, Windows CD, open recovery mode, then login and type fixmbr
[06:30] <swack> where can I get the init script
[06:30] <meuserj|work> thoreauputic, that blows.. people abusing it ruins it for everyone....
[06:30] <thoreauputic> meuserj|work: indeed
[06:31] <GoClick> LethAL-Rocks That's not my problem the problem is the xorg.conf file gets overwritten
[06:31] <LethAL-Rocks> dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver I think
[06:32] <thoreauputic> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:33] <LethAL-Rocks> Oh, other way round :P
[06:33] <GoClick> It's the one that configured it this way to start :P
[06:33] <GoClick> The monitor is good to like 1900 x something but I'm not... I'm 1152x864 man
[06:33] <tokenbad> Answer, great..thanks
[06:34] <thoreauputic> !tell GoClick about fixres
[06:34] <grodius> What Can I get as far as a windows media equivalent in linux?
[06:34] <GoClick> I edited the config and did the ctr+shift+backspace thing but x closed and didn't restart
[06:34] <GoClick> grodius, totem
[06:34] <LethAL-Rocks> grodius, People try not to make apps that bad
[06:34] <philc> how can I see the services running on my machine, and how can I remove a service from startup? IIRC update-rc.d doesn't do this for you
[06:35] <GoClick> philc to see the services running go; ps aux | more
[06:35] <grodius> oh ok i got that
[06:35] <deFrysk> !tell philc about bum
[06:35] <grodius> goclick, what about inbrowser windows media?
[06:35] <ui> !tell me about bum
[06:35] <D1> WOW
[06:35] <GoClick> grodius That's I don't know
[06:35] <D1> banshee is in breezy
[06:35] <grodius> k
[06:36] <D1> awesomeness!
[06:36] <XsupremeX> lag
[06:37] <swack> any help on regenerating /etc/init.d/mysql ?
[06:37] <philc> deFrysk: very cool, need a CLI way tho
[06:37] <GoClick> philc there is a folder /etc/init.d/ where there are symlinks to stuff that runs on boot but then there are folders like /etc/rc5.d/ that have links to those links that get run when the machine starts in run level 5 or whatever the number is
[06:37] <philc> GoClick: ps aux isn't strictly services
[06:37] <GoClick> philc no it's eveything
[06:37] <GoClick> Would you like to explain the difference between a service and deamon and a program to me?
[06:38] <grodius> Anyone know how to set up sound drivers for an audigy card
[06:38] <dazjorz> any programs to manage .BIN (CD image) files in Ubuntu ?
[06:38] <darkheart> GoClick A daemon is a program that listens on a port for a request.
[06:38] <philc> GoClick: I'm worried less about what I explicitly ran by way of my desktop's session or what programs I'm using, and more by way of what is currently running that can be found in /etc/init.d
[06:38] <thoreauputic> GoClick: BTW the default runlevel in debian and ubuntu is 2, not 5 like RH or whatever
[06:39] <thoreauputic> type "runlevel" to see
[06:39] <LethAL-Rocks> Does anyone know how to make an extended partition? GParted doesn't seem to be able to do it :(
[06:39] <miguel> what is the linux equivalent to "fdisk /mbr" on a windows drive?
[06:40] <miguel> i thin I messed up my  2nd hard drive
[06:41] <philc> fyi apparently gentoo has rc-status to perform the task I mentioend
[06:41] <Hoxzer> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23628&highlight=tv-out+nvidia I used that guide but I started player in TV my mouse got there and I was not able to get it back
[06:41] <Hoxzer> how should I get it back?
[06:42] <thoreauputic> philc: rcconf or bum would be similar I guess (don't know gentoo)
[06:42] <XsupremeX> lag
[06:43] <Belutz> XsupremeX: yes
[06:43] <XsupremeX> How do i unload all those windows files?
[06:43] <XsupremeX> cuz thats whats making me lag
[06:43] <XsupremeX> and if i wanna use them illjust get off linux later or something
[06:43] <XsupremeX> cuz i only have like 550 mg of free space... tahts why im lagging so bad....
[06:43] <tombs> hi ppl
[06:43] <Belutz> XsupremeX: "sudo umount /media/thename
[06:44] <XsupremeX> k thnx
[06:44] <XsupremeX> lol im lagging so much i cant even get to applications
[06:45] <XsupremeX> nvm i got it
[06:45] <XsupremeX> so i would do sudo umount /media/windowsferf
[06:45] <XsupremeX> right?
[06:45] <Belutz> no no
[06:46] <Belutz> XsupremeX: go to /media
[06:46] <Belutz> XsupremeX: you'll see a list of directory
[06:46] <XsupremeX> then what?
[06:47] <philc> thoreauputic: you're a genious, rcconf is brilliant. Thanks
[06:47] <thoreauputic> philc: :)) you're welcome
[06:47] <Belutz> XsupremeX: could you tell me the name of the directory?
[06:48] <dazjorz> humm-humm
[06:48] <dazjorz> does someone here knows a capturing program to capture the whole screen in a video file untill you press a certain key or something?
[06:48] <philc> how often are the breezy package repositories updated? Seems like I get 100 updates per day
[06:49] <philc> is every revision in those repos?
[06:49] <XsupremeX> k  sec
[06:49] <XsupremeX> im lagging like a bitch... i can barely do anything...
[06:49] <XsupremeX> and its not opening terminal cuz im lagging so much
[06:49] <XsupremeX> lol
[06:49] <dazjorz> shut off any programs you aren't currently using...
[06:50] <dazjorz> it'll help
[06:50] <thoreauputic> philc: some heavy bug squashing happening between now and release
[06:50] <ribbo> hi, just booted my Desktop machine (running Hoary_64). during boot says that it cannot access hardware clock... (Hmm, OK I thought)
[06:50] <ribbo> Now I cannot log in either, does not accept my password
[06:50] <thoreauputic> XsupremeX: run "yop" and see what's eating  your resources
[06:50] <thoreauputic> bah
[06:50] <ribbo> is the bios clock used somehow when hashing a password?
[06:50] <thoreauputic> s/yop/top
[06:51] <dazjorz> hey dudes ? how to capture the screen into a video file ?
[06:51] <GoClick> ribbo well time changes so getting the same hash again would be impossible
[06:52] <thoreauputic> XsupremeX: ctrl-alt-F1 to get a tty if you can't get a terminal, alt-F7 to return to X
[06:52] <GoClick> ribbo which password[s]  are you wondering about?
[06:52] <ribbo> GoClick: My login to the machine
[06:52] <ribbo> I have used Knoppix to edit /etc/shadow
[06:52] <ribbo> to remove the password for my account
[06:53] <ribbo> still no login
[06:53] <thoreauputic> ribbo: why??
[06:53] <thoreauputic> ribbo: that was silly
[06:54] <HumanPrototype> does anybody have any idea how to get ubuntu on a portable hdd to boot as if it is a usb-zip device?
[06:54] <x[trick] x> jsut want to ask... i've just finished burning the kubuntu 386-iso
[06:54] <ribbo> I did make a backup, remember that tis was after I tried many other things
[06:54] <thoreauputic> ribbo: boot in recovery mode and reset your passwd
[06:54] <x[trick] x> how will i start installing it?
[06:54] <ribbo> thoreauputic: did not work
[06:54] <thoreauputic> ribbo: is this breezy?
[06:54] <GoClick> ribbo most hashing methods do not produce a blank hash for a blank input and many will use a salt sometimes based on the username so two users with the same password will have a different hash
[06:54] <GoClick> ribbo is the issue you forgot your password?
[06:55] <ribbo> GoClick: forgot password? No
[06:55] <ribbo> GoClick: good thing I made a backup then
[06:55] <GoClick> Why are you messing with your password file then?
[06:55] <thoreauputic> XsupremeX: can you ssh into this machine?
[06:55] <x[trick] x> whats the command to start intalling?
[06:55] <ribbo> well I cannot log in.
[06:55] <GoClick> But you just said you edited the file so you must be able to login as something
[06:55] <ribbo> GoClick: via Knoppix
[06:55] <GoClick> !ssh
[06:56] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[06:56] <grodius> Is there anything as good as photoshop for linux?
[06:56] <p0windah> heh
[06:56] <GoClick> ribbo are you sure you weren't editing the knoppix pass file?
[06:56] <ribbo> GoClick: yes I am
[06:56] <ribbo> just back to first sign of problems:
[06:56] <p0windah> doesnt really seem worth arguing... :)
[06:57] <grodius> Ive been using Gimp but it doesnt seem nearly as deep
[06:57] <grodius> to me at elast
[06:57] <grodius> im really used to PS tho
[06:57] <x[trick] x> jsut want to ask... i've just finished burning the kubuntu 386-iso. how can i start installing it??
[06:57] <ribbo> kernel cannt acceess hardware clock during bot
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> ribbo,  what kind of machine ribbo ?
[06:57] <thoreauputic> grodius: try installing grokking the gimp
[06:57] <p0windah> I use gimp for small things and think I rock
[06:57] <darkheart> x[trick] x Did you have Ubuntu burned already? Cause you can just install kubuntu through apt-get.
[06:57] <thoreauputic> grodius: I forget the exact package name
[06:58] <p0windah> my friends who do it pro. laugh at me
[06:58] <ribbo> Whic is why i asked if it(the clock) is used when something is hashed
[06:58] <XsupremeX> dude if i cant access the terminal you think i could acses the internet.... lol
[06:58] <GoClick> ribbo perhaps Ubuntu and Knoppix use different hashing algs
[06:58] <ribbo> Dr_Willis: AMD_64
[06:58] <XsupremeX> GAA DAMN LAGG....... SO GAY
[06:58] <ribbo> GoClick: true
[06:58] <bhearsum> dos does hoary support swusp2?
[06:58] <x[trick] x> whats apt-get??? yeah i've already write the whole kubuntu 386
[06:59] <Tweek888> Yo
[06:59] <darkheart> x[trick] x Are you running ubuntu right now?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> grodius: the package name is grokking-the-gimp :)
[06:59] <dazjorz> thoreauputic: great Ubuntuer, ... Do you know a program to capture your screen into a video files ?
[06:59] <x[trick] x> nope
[06:59] <p0windah> x[trick] x: are you trolling ?
[06:59] <GoClick> x[trick] x apt-get is a medium-low level program for getting and installing software
[06:59] <x[trick] x> im still using windwos
[06:59] <GoClick> ribbo did you try and make a user on knoppix and copy the line to your other file?
[06:59] <darkheart> x[trick] x Well, you only really need one of those because you can install the other through a packaging system.
[06:59] <Tweek888> I tried installing Gtk+ Dev, and now Gnome doesn't work
[06:59] <GoClick> ribbo I think it'd be better use use a Ubuntu Live CD for this rather than Knoppix if you can
[06:59] <Tweek888> any ideas?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> dazjorz: heh - no I don't, but there's a flash thing that does that in linux (forget the name)
[06:59] <ribbo> GoClick: not yet
[07:00] <Echelon-H> is there any CD-Burning program you recommand?
[07:00] <dazjorz> thoreauputic: allright, :) thanks anywayz :)
[07:00] <x[trick] x> so where could i get that?? do i have to include that apt to the cd??
[07:00] <dazjorz> Echelon-H: doesn't Nero work in WINE ?
[07:00] <HumanPrototype> grodius, how much did you pay for PS?
[07:00] <Tweek888> Echelon-H k3b?? :<
[07:00] <p0windah> apt is included on the CD
[07:00] <GoClick> ribbo can we dcc?
[07:00] <ribbo> GoClick: gotcha! But does md5hash use the hardware clock when it hashes a password...just seems strange that both issues occur at the same time
[07:01] <Echelon-H> i dont want nero under wine.
[07:01] <gabberman> any can help with sound problems?
[07:01] <GoClick> by default md5 doesn't use the clock
[07:01] <dazjorz> thoreauputic: it's called vnc2swf
[07:01] <Echelon-H> I want something native.
[07:01] <x[trick] x> where can i findthat? :(
[07:01] <GoClick> It would never be a good idea to use the clock for passwords
[07:01] <Tweek888> Gtk + dev made Gnome not work, any ideas on fixing it?
[07:01] <gabberman> shonas a fatty
[07:01] <darkheart> x[trick] x It's part of Ubuntu, just install it.
[07:01] <grodius> humanprototype I warezed it ^_^
[07:01] <x[trick] x> can you give me the command??
[07:01] <x[trick] x> :)
[07:01] <OSx86_Mafia> dazjorz, istanbul
[07:01] <darkheart> x[trick] x To install?
[07:01] <grv> hey all
[07:01] <x[trick] x> yap
[07:02] <llpamies> I'm on ubuntu64 and I've installed x.org-drivers-fglrx and restricted modules, then I put fglrx in xorg.conf, and I can get acceleration.
[07:02] <darkheart> x[trick] x The command is 'Put the CD in the drive and restart your computer'
[07:02] <Echelon-H> is there no GNOME burning client?
[07:02] <ribbo> GoClick: hat I am trying to say does the algorhythm(sp) use clock cycles to generate the hash
[07:02] <bhearsum> nautilus does cd burning
[07:02] <GoClick> bhearsum NO
[07:02] <x[trick] x> ok
[07:02] <gabberman> - - SHONA EATS FOOD - -    - - - ALL THE TIME - - -        - - - SHE'S THINKING OF FOOD RIGHT NOW - - -
[07:02] <bhearsum> GoClick: i never said i recommended it
[07:02] <darkheart> x[trick] x You better be careful if you want to keep your Windows partition.
[07:02] <x[trick] x> hehehe
[07:02] <bhearsum> i just said it did
[07:02] <gabberman> - - - SHE DOESNT KNOW - - -
[07:02] <gabberman> - - - MOUTH MOUTH MOUTH - - -
[07:03] <darkheart> gabberman Shut up
[07:03] <GoClick> bhearsum sorry I dunno what happend I typed rib and hit tab
[07:03] <x[trick] x> well.. i've decided to remove my windows
[07:03] <Echelon-H> can nautilus burn audiocd?
[07:03] <bhearsum> GoClick: alright, heh
[07:03] <GoClick> ribbo NO it does NOT use the clock
[07:03] <x[trick] x> so i have to reformat my hdd first :(
[07:03] <HumanPrototype> grodius, well how much is PS retailing for? and how much is the gimp retailing for? ... exactly - you have your reason for the differences
[07:03] <dazjorz> OSx86_Mafia: huh ?
[07:03] <darkheart> x[trick] x Ubuntu install will do that for you.
[07:03] <Sonny_Wertzik> Can anyone tell me if there is linux software to control my APC XS 800?
[07:03] <x[trick] x> well wish me luck
[07:03] <ribbo> GoClick: thanks
[07:04] <grv> i cannot connect to yahoo using gaim, ever since i started conncting using dsl
[07:04] <p0windah> he's gonna nuke his machine
[07:04] <grv> i am on ubuntu 4.10
[07:04] <llpamies> direct rendering: no
[07:04] <GoClick> ribbo md5 is for making a hash that is reproducable same input will always make the same output and clock cycles wouldn't be very good because then the passwords would bever work
[07:04] <OSx86_Mafia> dazjorz, istanbul, its the name of a desktop session video recording prog
[07:04] <dex> hello again. is 5.04 the same installation process as 5,10?
[07:04] <dex> hello again. is 5.04 the same installation process as 5.10?
[07:04] <darkheart> p0windah The same time that we decide that it's not for you either.
[07:04] <p0windah> well he is prolly gonna screw up his partitions or something and come back here moaning
[07:04] <p0windah> why not suggest he try a liveCD ?
[07:05] <grodius> humanprototype but PS is a better program overall, I wouldnt buy it, but given the choice if i had both for free, id choose PS
[07:05] <darkheart> p0windah And how is that different from anyone else messing up?
[07:05] <llpamies> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/365649
[07:05] <darkheart> p0windah Maybe he doesn't want the LiveCD version
[07:05] <p0windah> I guess you're right
[07:05] <p0windah> its not like its my system
[07:05] <picasso> hi. im dumb, i just installed amarok but i can't get artsd to play mp3 files
[07:05] <blowjobba> chip
[07:05] <HumanPrototype> grodius, yes, most people would, but PS isnt free and gimp is
[07:06] <picasso> it plays ogg's, does anyone know how to get it to play .mp3 ?
[07:06] <darkheart> p0windah Just cause someone doesn't know anything about what they are doing, doesn't mean it's a bad idea. In fact, it's probably a good idea because they *will* learn. As long as they know the consequences of messing up =)
[07:06] <HumanPrototype> picasso try installing the gstreamer plugins from synaptic
[07:06] <reiki_work> I think I had the right idea when I bought a new 160GB hard drive, pulled my old WinXP drive right out, slapped in the new one and told the Ubuntu installer...."take the whole thing... it's yours to do with as you wish!"
[07:06] <reiki_work> :)
[07:06] <picasso> HumanPrototype: synaptic?
[07:06] <llpamies> anybody knows how to set a ati works in a ubuntu64 ? This is my file: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/365649
[07:06] <p0windah> I agree darkheart
[07:06] <picasso> i've used apt-get to install all gstreamer plugins
[07:06] <HumanPrototype> picasso that should work then afaik
[07:07] <picasso> ah synaptic is just the gui for apt-*
[07:07] <picasso> right
[07:07] <lsuactiafner> yes
[07:07] <dex> elo everybody. I just want to ask is i can install ragnarok in ubuntu and how?
[07:07] <darkheart> picasso Well, the GUI for libapt.
[07:07] <OSx86_Mafia> dazjorz, that seem ok? ive not used it myself, just read about it
[07:07] <p0windah> I am sure he left this channel feeling fully informed of how hard he can screw up his machine :)
[07:07] <HumanPrototype> picasso yeah, soz, i normally use it for simplicity
[07:07] <llpamies> I've installed fgrlx driver
[07:07] <darkheart> p0windah Heh, well he said he wanted to get rid of Windows.
[07:07] <picasso> alright well all these gstreamer plugins aren't helping me out =\
[07:07] <llpamies> and direct rendering in NO
[07:07] <p0windah> heh
[07:07] <p0windah> this is true
[07:08] <llpamies> and glxgears don't rotate !
[07:08] <inthenow> WHAT, this is a first. firefox actually installed the flash plugin by itself in breezy.
[07:08] <lsuactiafner> i get 7000 in glxgears with nvidia..
[07:08] <lsuactiafner> muhahaha
[07:08] <picasso> 7000 fps?
[07:09] <lsuactiafner> yeh
[07:09] <dex> for anyone who can help me: I just want to ask is i can install ragnarok in ubuntu and how?
[07:09] <inthenow> did anyone know that firefox installs flash on its own now?
[07:09] <fredforfaen> yeah inthenow
[07:09] <OSx86_Mafia> inthenow, it always could
[07:09] <p0windah> hasnt it done that for ages ?
[07:09] <lsuactiafner> gforce 6600 256ram amd64 3200+ asus a8n deluxe dual ddr
[07:09] <lsuactiafner> 1G dual ddr
[07:09] <inthenow> OSx86_Mafia: always? i had to do it manually every time. what did i do wrong?
[07:10] <OSx86_Mafia> dunno?
[07:10] <NubeeOfUbuntu> for anyone who can help me: I just want to ask is i can install ragnarok in ubuntu and how?
[07:10] <llpamies> I'm on breezy !
[07:10] <fredforfaen> wtf is ragnarok
[07:10] <OSx86_Mafia> wtf is ragnarok?
[07:11] <p0windah> online game
[07:11] <fredforfaen> lol
[07:11] <NubeeOfUbuntu> yah online game
[07:11] <XsupremeX> yay
[07:11] <OSx86_Mafia> isnt that the end of the world in norse mythology?
[07:11] <XsupremeX> it didnt save the windowsfiles when i rebooted!
[07:11] <XsupremeX> so now lag is gone!
[07:11] <XsupremeX> :D
[07:11] <fredforfaen> yeah mafia
[07:11] <Belutz> XsupremeX: ic :)
[07:12] <kentborg> Question about kernel versions. On the Sept 9th update I got a new kernel, but the name didn't change. Is that intentional?
[07:12] <Madeye> guys whenever I install something I got this  not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start. (i'm using breezy)
[07:12] <Belutz> How do I uninstall a program that i installed by compiling?
[07:12] <lsuactiafner> NubeeOfUbuntu : seems you need to download the source and compile it yourself
[07:12] <lsuactiafner> Belutz ; you dont, jsut leave it
[07:12] <NubeeOfUbuntu> ok
[07:12] <asdx> How can I open the 59 port on Hoary?
[07:12] <p0windah> lsuactiafner: vim
[07:12] <lsuactiafner> wont take more than 1mb space and it wont bother you
[07:12] <p0windah> sorry,
[07:12] <inthenow> Is firefox going to install java by itself now also?
[07:12] <p0windah> XsupremeX: vim
[07:12] <Belutz> lsuactiafner: ic, so it will be a junk in my hdd ?
[07:13] <bob2> asdx: there's nothing to open
[07:13] <OSx86_Mafia> Belutz, "make uninstall" in the progs src dir, does not always work though
[07:13] <bob2> asdx: just run whatever you think should be listening on port 59
[07:13] <lsuactiafner> Belutz : basically
[07:13] <fredforfaen> no inthenow
[07:13] <p0windah> XsupremeX: what doesnt it to
[07:13] <bob2> XsupremeX: it's a text editor
[07:13] <asdx> bob2: ok
[07:13] <XsupremeX> k
[07:13] <Belutz> OSx86_Mafia: ok, will try that
[07:13] <bob2> inthenow: no
[07:13] <pluffsy> what do you use to organize your photos?
[07:13] <bob2> inthenow: ubuntu isn't allowed to include java
[07:13] <lsuactiafner> XsupremeX : apt-get install mc
[07:13] <bob2> pluffsy: fspot
[07:13] <lsuactiafner> XsupremeX : mc rocks
[07:13] <XsupremeX> is that a command lsua?
[07:13] <pluffsy> bob2: alright
[07:13] <XsupremeX> apt-get install mc
[07:13] <XsupremeX> ??
[07:13] <ui> what is mc for?
[07:13] <lsuactiafner> XsupremeX : yes
[07:13] <p0windah> XsupremeX: lynx  & w3m <- text based browsers
[07:13] <NubeeOfUbuntu> lsuactiafner: about my installation of ubuntu 5.10. why is it that it takes too long for getting an update??
[07:14] <llpamies> is fglrx driver crashed in breezy ?
[07:14] <dazjorz> ui: MC is Midnight Commander
[07:14] <bob2> mc is a text-based file manager
[07:14] <lsuactiafner> mc - Midnight Commander - a powerful file manager
[07:14] <wdh> NubeeOfUbuntu, because it needs to download a lot maybe?
[07:14] <dazjorz> ui: it's like Windows "Explorer" but then console-based
[07:14] <bob2> llpamies: if it doesn't work for you, please check the bts
[07:14] <dazjorz> ui: a file manager
[07:14] <XsupremeX> k
[07:14] <OSx86_Mafia> any of you guys tried osx for x86?
[07:14] <XsupremeX> umm how do i get it?
[07:14] <bob2> llpamies: if no one else has reported the problem, you should
[07:14] <lsuactiafner> NubeeOfUbuntu : what you mean it takes long to get an update?
[07:14] <bob2> OSx86_Mafia: #macosx
[07:14] <ui> :o
[07:14] <Belutz> OSx86_Mafia: it works!!! thx a lot mate! :)
[07:15] <llpamies> bob2, what is bts ?
[07:15] <OSx86_Mafia> Belutz, no worries
[07:15] <NubeeOfUbuntu> lsuactiafner: it's like my pc lag
[07:15] <inthenow> bob2: how can we tell them to include it...i thought we are trying to wipe out world poverty
[07:15] <llpamies> bug track system ?
[07:15] <bob2> llpamies: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[07:15] <bob2> inthenow: wtf?
[07:15] <OSx86_Mafia> Belutz, what country you from?
[07:15] <bob2> inthenow: if you want java to be included with linux distributions, ask sun to unfuck the license
[07:15] <inthenow> bob2: yes i know illogical and irrational...im waiting for cognitive therapy
[07:15] <lsuactiafner> NubeeOfUbuntu : not sure what you mean but after an apt-get it checks all the programs to see if their compatible ect.. so it will use your cpu like a whore for 10+ seconds
[07:16] <bob2> llpamies: yes, bug tracking system
[07:16] <lsuactiafner> bbl
[07:16] <llpamies> bob2, thanks
[07:16] <XsupremeX> its not connecting...
[07:17] <kentborg> Question about kernel versions. On the Sept 9th update I got a new kernel, but the name (version) didn't change. Is that intentional?
[07:17] <pluffsy> bob2: where can I find fspot? couldn't find it on google, synpatic or freshmeat
[07:17] <bob2> kentborg: the version did, but the name did not
[07:17] <lsuactiafner> kentborg : no.
[07:17] <lsuactiafner> run uname -a
[07:17] <bob2> pluffsy: f-spot, sorry
[07:17] <pluffsy> bob2: ahhh. dooh :p'
[07:17] <bob2> kentborg: the package version, that is; not the kernel version itself
[07:17] <OSx86_Mafia> f**kin mice in my room
[07:18] <wdh> OSx86_Mafia, two of them?
[07:18] <kentborg> bobb2: Dang, because my wireless (ipw2100) is more flakey and I wanted to revert the kernel, but be able to boot between the two. Same name is a problem.
[07:18] <boogie> kill the mofos
[07:18] <OSx86_Mafia> ate my switches power cable
[07:18] <inthenow> bob2: ok im contacting them. i wont let you down
[07:18] <XsupremeX> brb every1
[07:18] <bob2> kentborg: that's not really possible
[07:18] <bob2> kentborg: if it's got worse, tho, please do file a bug
[07:19] <NubeeOfUbuntu> lsuactiafner: why is it that ubuntu is so slow in my pc. like when it turns to screensaver mode, im having a difficult time getting it back at ones. i have to wait a while for me to see the desktop again.. T_T
[07:19] <kentborg> bob2: not sure whether it si flakey hardware, I wanted to try the old kernel first.
[07:19] <kentborg> bob2: I even have a handy backup.
[07:19] <bob2> kentborg: you'd have to replace it with the old .deb then
[07:19] <bob2> which might not work
[07:20] <kentborg> bob2: (and lsuactiafner) thanks.
[07:21] <bob2> kentborg: but please do file a bug if it is more flakey; I don't want breezy not working with my wireless card ;)
[07:21] <kentborg> bob2: I am going to try reverting to the old kernel manual-style and see.
[07:22] <x[trick] x> ey! need help
[07:22] <x[trick] x> :(
[07:22] <apokryphos> !helpme
[07:22] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[07:22] <saldb> !helpme with wireless please!
[07:22] <ubotu> saldb: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:23] <saldb> any humans in here? i'm having a bit of difficulty getting my wifi adapter working
[07:23] <x[trick] x> my cd installer for ubundu did'nt work :(
[07:23] <bob2> it's way easier if you ask a question
[07:23] <bob2> x[trick] x: did the cd burn correctly?
[07:23] <x[trick] x> when i restarted my pc it says disk error :(
[07:23] <NubeeOfUbuntu> bob2: why is it my ubuntu is so slow?
[07:23] <saldb> !helpme how do i turn off the RF kill switch on my wifi card?
[07:23] <ubotu> saldb: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:23] <apokryphos> NubeeOfUbuntu: it isn't :D
[07:23] <Joxer> does ubuntu have a default ftpd installed ? ^_^
[07:23] <x[trick] x> i think so..
[07:23] <bob2> NubeeOfUbuntu: how could anyone possibly answer that?
[07:23] <bob2> NubeeOfUbuntu: explain what specific things you think are slow
[07:23] <apokryphos> saldb: please don't play with the bot in here.
[07:24] <bob2> x[trick] x: then try again
[07:24] <saldb> sorry i thought the bot was part of some system
[07:24] <darkheart> XsupremeX This isn't Windows
[07:24] <bob2> saldb: the bot really doesn't understand english
[07:24] <saldb> how about russian?
[07:24] <bob2> saldb: what does linux-laptop.net say about it?
[07:24] <apokryphos> saldb: he's generally used to respond to particular factoids
[07:24] <darkheart> saldb How about only keywords?
[07:24] <NubeeOfUbuntu> bob2: when it is updating, i cant my move my mouse smoothly and i cant open any application
[07:24] <saldb> heh okay
[07:24] <apokryphos> saldb: and you can investigate with him in /msg
[07:24] <darkheart> XsupremeX You want to type a message and have window pop up on another computer with the message?
[07:24] <x[trick] x> i even set my bios to make my cd my first boot device but i still has the same msg :(
[07:25] <bob2> XsupremeX: it's very annoying when you ask questions like that
[07:25] <saldb> ok well i'd rather get my problem addressed
[07:25] <bob2> x[trick] x: so, check if the CD is ok or not
[07:25] <darkheart> XsupremeX No, that's a security issue and an annoyance.
[07:25] <Joxer> does ubuntu have a default ftpd installed ? ^_^
[07:25] <bob2> saldb: why dn't you go find out if it's supposed to work or not then?
[07:25] <x[trick] x> i've tried to read the cd awhile ago and its working fine
[07:25] <bob2> x[trick] x: that doesn't really answer my question
[07:26] <bob2> x[trick] x: when you ask it to to verify itself, does it pass or fail?
[07:26] <darkheart> XsupremeX If you are really hell-bent on doing that, there is some program out there that will talk over a windows network to do that, but I don't remember its name.
[07:26] <saldb> bob2: the problem is the my wifi adapter has an rf switch. i've read people actually have gotten wifi to work, sadly they don't really explain how
[07:26] <x[trick] x> what do you mean by dat bob?
[07:26] <bob2> saldb: wifi in general is trivial
[07:26] <bob2> XsupremeX: stop using /me, it's bloody annoying
[07:26] <saldb> well, i /do/ want it to work
[07:26] <XsupremeX> sorry
[07:26] <XsupremeX> lol
[07:26] <bob2> saldb: but RF kill switches are hardware specific
[07:26] <lonewolff> XsupremeX: why do you /me everything?
[07:26] <XsupremeX> gaim isnt working
[07:26] <XsupremeX> dunno
[07:27] <bob2> XsupremeX: linpopup lets you annoy windows users
[07:27] <x[trick] x> verify it self???
[07:27] <dan> quit
[07:27] <bob2> x[trick] x: boot expert mode, select the "verify cd" option
[07:28] <x[trick] x> havent seen that during my restart
[07:28] <dazjorz> hey uhm
[07:28] <saldb> bob2: some aren't hardware controlled
[07:28] <x[trick] x> where should i set that?
[07:28] <apokryphos> x[trick] x: it doesn't boot to the CD at all?
[07:28] <dazjorz> somewhere, in a file, I put export LANG=EN_us
[07:28] <x[trick] x> yeah
[07:28] <dazjorz> I don't know what file it is again
[07:28] <apokryphos> x[trick] x: does the Ubuntu Screen come up?
[07:28] <x[trick] x> nope
[07:28] <XsupremeX> does anyone know why gaim isnt working for me?
[07:28] <dazjorz> could someone give me a list of files that Ubuntu loads at boot
[07:29] <NubeeOfUbuntu> bob2: why i cant even cancel what im updating? it also taking my mouse to respond to what im trying to do
[07:29] <bob2> saldb: right, but whether or not it's hardware controlled is itslef hardware-specific
[07:29] <dazjorz> or, a way to find a specific text in a file on the system
[07:29] <apokryphos> x[trick] x: are you sure you burned the CD correctly?
[07:29] <saldb> bob2: good point
[07:29] <x[trick] x> yap
[07:29] <bob2> x[trick] x: then you've probably burnt it incorrectly, or not setup your bios properly
[07:29] <bob2> NubeeOfUbuntu: okiedokie
[07:29] <saldb> bob2: i'm loading on the ipw2200 driver, it seems to come loaded with 5.10 but i might need to reinstall it
[07:29] <pluffsy> bob2: oh my god. f-spot seems to really kick ass, seems a lot neater then iphoto.
[07:29] <apokryphos> x[trick] x: you can either retry burning another CD, and double-checking yoru bios, or you can select another method of installation
[07:29] <bob2> saldb: hardware as in the laptop itself
[07:30] <x[trick] x> ah...
[07:30] <bob2> pluffsy: yeah, I quite like it
[07:30] <x[trick] x> :(
[07:30] <darkheart> XsupremeX If you don't give symptoms of your problem, we don't know what it might be.
[07:30] <x[trick] x> wait i'll get my cd
[07:30] <saldb> bob2: the thing is, i'm reading a faq on my exact brand notebook and the author says it just worked randomly/magically
[07:30] <inthenow> bob2: ok i emailed the sun, lets hope it shines here
[07:30] <apokryphos> x[trick] x: if you've got enough bandwidth and a dvd burner you might like to try the DVD iso
[07:30] <x[trick] x> its good i have 2 computer here
[07:31] <XsupremeX> Well it just doesnt do anything
[07:31] <bob2> saldb: and the model number is?
[07:31] <XsupremeX> it just stays connecting
[07:31] <XsupremeX> for like 20 mins
[07:31] <XsupremeX> lol...
[07:31] <NubeeOfUbuntu> bob2: can u tell me what happened to my installation of ubuntu and why it so slow, just like what i explained a while ago?
[07:31] <x[trick] x> i burn it using creating data cd
[07:31] <x[trick] x> is that right??
[07:31] <bob2> NubeeOfUbuntu: I have no idea
[07:31] <NubeeOfUbuntu> bob2: pls!
[07:31] <apokryphos> x[trick] x: no
[07:31] <bob2> NubeeOfUbuntu: perhaps you don't have dma enabled
[07:31] <saldb> bob2: nw8240 .. it's HP Compaq
[07:31] <bob2> NubeeOfUbuntu: don't be annoying
[07:31] <x[trick] x> ops
[07:31] <apokryphos> x[trick] x: it's an ISO. You should burn Image
[07:31] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell x[trick] x about install
[07:31] <bob2> NubeeOfUbuntu: you really shouldn't be demanding anything from strangers on irc
[07:32] <x[trick] x> damn :(
[07:32] <NubeeOfUbuntu> oh im sorry
[07:32] <jamey3> I have just plugged in some 5.1 surround speakers and sound only comes out of the center satellite and subwoofer. How can I make it work fully?
[07:32] <NubeeOfUbuntu> thats not what i meant
[07:32] <NubeeOfUbuntu> my apologies
[07:32] <x[trick] x> so i have to use image
[07:32] <fredforfaen> yeah iso-image
[07:32] <bob2> jamey3: depends on the sound card
[07:32] <Rockett18> NubeeOfUbuntu> what graphics card do you have?
[07:32] <apokryphos> x[trick] x: check the link ubotu just gave you. Do you have Nero?
[07:33] <x[trick] x> yes i have
[07:33] <Belutz> i'm hungry
[07:33] <jamey3> bob2, it's the default integrated one on an Abit NF7-S motherboard. I think it's a Realtek chipset.
[07:33] <inthenow> who needs help. i support linux. i cant support windows because im not stealing it anymore
[07:33] <jamey3> inthenow, I do
[07:33] <NubeeOfUbuntu> Rockett18: Inno3d nvidia TNT2 mx200
[07:33] <darkheart> XsupremeX Do you have a firewall or anything enabled?
[07:33] <XsupremeX> not sure
[07:33] <XsupremeX> cuz im on live cd
[07:33] <XsupremeX> on ubuntu
[07:33] <Rockett18> NubeeOfUbuntu> do you have the nvidia drivers installed?
[07:33] <andysl> I am having some problems with Evolution in Breezy (using IMAP servers).  I cannot see the inbox, but I _can_ see the contents of the other folders.  Can you help me out?
[07:33] <bob2> saldb: someone claism it Just Works on the nc8220, too
[07:33] <inthenow> im tired of stealing operating systems
[07:34] <jamey3> inthenow, great but can you help me?
[07:34] <inthenow> jamey3: maybe
[07:34] <inthenow> shoot
[07:34] <jamey3> I have a 5.1 speaker set and I've just plugged it into the integrated sound card on my Abit NF7-S motherboard.
[07:34] <jamey3> Sound only comes out of the centre speaker and subwoofer.
[07:34] <NubeeOfUbuntu> Rockett18: i dont know
[07:34] <bob2> jamey3: what does google say about linux support for that motherboard?
[07:34] <Rockett18> !nvidia
[07:34] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[07:35] <jamey3> well I presumed it was just a setting change since sound works fine otherwise
[07:35] <fredforfaen> jamey3 and alsamixer is a good tool
[07:35] <jamey3> but okay, will google
[07:35] <jamey3> that's what I thought it could be
[07:35] <NubeeOfUbuntu> Rockett18: i just installed it from the cd.
[07:35] <apokryphos> x[trick] x: if you have Nero, I think you can even just double-click on the .ISO and Nero will do it for you
[07:35] <saldb> bob2: the author claims he recompiled DSDT and somehow that made it work
[07:35] <NubeeOfUbuntu> Rockett18: the ubuntu
[07:35] <x[trick] x> is it possible to just copy the first cd that i write awhile ago to my hdd then burn a new one using image??
[07:35] <bob2> jamey3: it's possible linux doesn't support it at all, but I don't know
[07:35] <inthenow> jamey3: i have that board...what module is loaded. did you type lsmod?
[07:35] <NubeeOfUbuntu> Rockett18: i dont know how to install the video card driver. can u teach me how/
[07:36] <bob2> saldb: it's possible, some laptops do ship with broken dsdts
[07:36] <jamey3> inthenow, nope will do now
[07:36] <inthenow> jamey3: as root
[07:36] <jamey3> snd                    50276  8 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[07:36] <jamey3> oh ok
[07:36] <jgb> can someone explain to me how the Contents.i386.gz works?  To me it just looks like a filesystem listing
[07:37] <jamey3> same result
[07:37] <bob2> jgb: it shows what files are in which packages
[07:37] <bob2> jgb: but it's broken atm anyway
[07:38] <inthenow> jamey3:  uname -a
[07:38] <inthenow> what kernel?
[07:38] <jamey3> Linux jamey 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Fri Jun 24 16:53:01 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:39] <XsupremeX> Does Ubuntu come with a firewall?
[07:39] <XsupremeX> when you use the live CD?
[07:39] <jgb> ok.  If I want to create an iso image of all packages on our local ftp mirror for a specific architecture, how do I go about it?
[07:40] <bob2> XsupremeX: nope
[07:40] <geneo93> XsupremeX:  i doubt if anyone can write to your disk
[07:40] <jamey3> ok i turned on all settings in alsamixer, that really fucked it up
[07:40] <bob2> XsupremeX: there's nothing for it to do
[07:40] <XsupremeX> k
[07:40] <blablub> test
[07:40] <blablablub> test
[07:40] <fredforfaen> jamey3 lol
[07:40] <dazjorz> how to install libavcodec ?
[07:40] <fredforfaen> jamey3 how did it fuck it up?
[07:41] <neighborlee> im still getting kernel panic ( VFS:  unable to mount root fs) from a fresh kernel compile ( kernel-source-2.6.10 from synaptic ) using: /boot/config-2.6.10-5-386 ...would could be wrong ??
[07:41] <andysl> t
[07:41] <dazjorz> it's a virtual package but I need it...
[07:41] <jamey3> fredforfaen, kept phasing volume in and out like a kid with a waa-waa pedal
[07:41] <jamey3> oh right there's a lot of settings in alsamixer but whatever I do, nothing seems to turn on the other speakers lmao
[07:41] <NubeeOfUbuntu> bob2: how would i change my root password?
[07:41] <fredforfaen> jamey3 haha...but nothing on the oher speekers?
[07:41] <danst> hi just wanted to know if someone could help me with compiling imms for bmp. i get two "undeclared" errors ("display undeclared" and "Window undeclared"). same as for this guy http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/538
[07:41] <ompaul> NubeeOfUbuntu, you would not
[07:42] <bob2> NubeeOfUbuntu: there isnt a root password to change
[07:42] <jamey3> fredforfaen, nope it's weird
[07:42] <ompaul> !tell NubeeOfUbuntu about root
[07:42] <bob2> neighborlee: you compiled it wrong
[07:42] <gm78> Why am I not able to block a contact in Gaim using MSN?
[07:42] <fredforfaen> hmm
[07:42] <jamey3> there's three channels, two speakers on each, only the sub/centre is working
[07:42] <bob2> neighborlee: include support for you root filesystem type and ide/scsi drivers
[07:42] <jamey3> the rear l/r and front l/r aren't working at all
[07:42] <benjam1n> anyone know why i can't find eclipse anywhere through synaptic?
[07:42] <ompaul> NubeeOfUbuntu, that should help a tad - we all do the sudo again :)
[07:42] <NubeeOfUbuntu> bob2: ok thx
[07:42] <fredforfaen> thats wierd
[07:42] <bob2> neighborlee: or, better still, don't compile it at all
[07:42] <bob2> benjam1n: it's not in ubuntu
[07:42] <gm78> NubeeOfUbuntu, if you want to enable a root password, issue the command sudo passwd root
[07:42] <jamey3> hm anyone know how I can solve this bugger?
[07:42] <fredforfaen> jamey3 have you googled you model/brand?
[07:42] <benjam1n> thats dumb
[07:43] <gm78> benjam1n, you have to install java and eclipse manually
[07:43] <jamey3> fredforfaen, yeah doing that now
[07:43] <fredforfaen> good good
[07:43] <jamey3> found "HOWTO: Hear multiple sounds at once" looks promising sorta
[07:43] <pluffsy> btw. anyone here tried beagle on ubuntu? guess you need to install a newer kernel and stuff. is beagle very unstable or what is the state of it?
[07:43] <fredforfaen> cool
[07:43] <benuk> Hey!! ubuntu won't install on my PC :'( :'(
[07:43] <gm78> benjam1n, well, if you want to contribute millions of dollars so canonical can buy the rights to java and open source it, by all means do so ;)
[07:44] <neighborlee> bob2, I have ext3 set to 'y' as per directions for a / partition ( it can't be M ) and ide/scsi stuff is  as it was from the config which should be correct and same as my running kernel right ? (which is the stock ubuntu kernel)
[07:44] <gm78> benjam1n, until then, blame Sun for Ubuntu not shipping eclipse
[07:44] <benjam1n> anyone here know a good editor for python? one that dosnt use qt that is
[07:44] <neoliminal> Anyone know if gimpShop will end up in Universe anytime soon?  If I were leet I'd put it there myself, but I'm just a graphics guy.
[07:44] <bob2> neighborlee: no, it's not correct
[07:44] <bob2> neighborlee: compile it IN, not as a module
[07:44] <benuk> isn't eclipse in the universe??
[07:44] <bob2> benuk: then explain what the problem is
[07:44] <danst> could someone help me with this compilation problem? http://pastebin.kaarsemaker.net/538
[07:44] <gm78> benuk, nope...it cant be. ubuntu doesnt ship java
[07:44] <bob2> neoliminal: talk to #ubuntu-motu
[07:44] <neighborlee> bob2, I just said im compiling it in ie: it is set to 'Y'..see my post above
[07:45] <neoliminal> bob2: what is that?
[07:45] <war-totem> anyone know the command to send an email through mutt/vim
[07:45] <bob2> neoliminal: the channel to ask for things to go into universe
[07:45] <benjam1n> yeah but azueus i found in one of the repos maybe its an unoffial one (probably) but its in there and it uses java
[07:45] <neoliminal> bob: cool thanks!
[07:45] <lenhan> benjam1n: just download the java sdk and untargz eclipse manually
[07:45] <bob2> neighborlee: "ide/scsi stuff is  as it was from the config", which is not correct, since by default it is modular
[07:45] <bob2> pluffsy: it's slow, and once I had it installed, I realised, not very useful
[07:46] <inthenow> jamey3: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Nvidia#matrix
[07:46] <g|patrick> hi
[07:46] <inthenow> IM still looking into it
[07:46] <neighborlee> bob2, i'd think the config would be same as my running kernel which I thought was the whole point of HAVING a config ?..anyway ok so illl check those settings and make sure they are set to Y then
[07:46] <Angel-SL> hi
[07:46] <Angel-SL> anyone knows a good IDE?
[07:46] <jamey3> inthenow, thanks looking now
[07:46] <dazjorz> xvidcap: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:46] <dazjorz> libpng is installed ?!
[07:46] <gm78> benjam1n, as far as i know azureus isnt in the ubuntu repos....ill have to double check though. do you have any non-ubuntu repos enabled?
[07:47] <bob2> neighborlee: no, as I explained yesterday, the ubuntu kernel has everything modularised, so it requires an initrd to boot
[07:47] <bob2> dazjorz: no, it's not
[07:47] <lenhan> Angel-SL: kdevelop or eclipse
[07:47] <dazjorz> bob2: aptitude says it is
[07:47] <bob2> dazjorz: install libpng2
[07:47] <Angel-SL> a C/C++ Development IDE
[07:47] <jamey3> inthenow, ok what the hell does that mean? :_)
[07:47] <jamey3> *:-)
[07:47] <Angel-SL> thanks lenhan
[07:47] <dazjorz> bob2: libpng10 and libpng12..
[07:47] <bob2> dazjorz: neither of which are libpng2
[07:47] <gm78> Angel-SL, for eclipse, install the C/C++ plugin, since by default it is a java IDE
[07:47] <lenhan> Angel-SL: np
[07:47] <dazjorz> bob2: ok, i'll install that one too then :)
[07:48] <inthenow> jamey3: nm it...im just trying to help you
[07:48] <Angel-SL> hold on
[07:48] <bob2> dazjorz: libfoo.so.N is generally in libfooN
[07:48] <Angel-SL> wrong channel
[07:48] <dazjorz> bob2: thanks :)
[07:48] <Angel-SL> i have debian and ubuntu
[07:48] <Angel-SL> why am i asking here..
[07:48] <Cryptid> I cant find BMP in Synaptec
[07:48] <dazjorz> bob2: seems to work
[07:48] <obscurite> Hello. I am a future ubunutu type person. =)
[07:48] <gm78> Angel-SL, this is the ubuntu channel
[07:48] <bob2> Cryptid: beep-media-player
[07:48] <obscurite> Trying to decide on a notebook.
[07:48] <fredforfaen> obscurite good!
[07:48] <bob2> but it's not very useful
[07:48] <Angel-SL> tho i am banned in #Debian >_<
[07:48] <Cryptid> bob2 Yes
[07:49] <lenhan> Angel-SL: eclipse is not in the repositories and java isn't in the repositories by default either; just download them manually
[07:49] <bob2> yes, for being a gimp
[07:49] <gm78> bob2, i find bmp to be much better than xmms....altho i prefer kaffeine to both of them
[07:49] <inthenow> jamey3 http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Nvidia&card=.&chip=nForce&module=intel8x0
[07:49] <Cryptid> bob2, is Bmp not good atall
[07:49] <inthenow> dont be too quick to do what it says there
[07:49] <lenhan> Angel-SL: don't use eclipse unless you've got a lot of memory to spare; CDT is the C/C++ plugin I believe
[07:49] <bob2> Cryptid: it's like xmms but with anti-aliased menus
[07:49] <rob^^^> is there a way to force a colordepth for X on the livecd from the boot prompt?
[07:49] <obscurite> There any good resources for someone shopping for an ubuntu portable aside from the usual suspecs (google, tuxmobil, linux-laptops)
[07:49] <neighborlee> bob2, ok so then the config info shoud be building the kernel correctly since I changed no ide/scsi settings at all meaning they are modularized...( setting M )...and I do have initrd set to Y in the kernel so that is ok..what does that leave ? (I made no other changes)
[07:49] <bob2> gm78: how is it different?
[07:50] <gm78> Cryptid, i used to use it before switching to kaffeine, liked it much better than xmms
[07:50] <inthenow> jamey3: dont be to quick to follow those instructions
[07:50] <bob2> neighborlee: no, because you'd have to build it with --initrd and configure the bootloader to use it, too
[07:50] <fredforfaen> gm78 i like BMP very much to :P
[07:50] <bob2> obscurite: the wiki
[07:50] <Cryptid> gm78, Kaffeine looks like a Vid player rite?
[07:50] <obscurite> bob2, thanks
[07:50] <gm78> bob2, uses gtk2....but the main differences are the menu layouts and such...much more user friendly in my opinion
[07:50] <pluffsy> will 5.10 ship with the 2.6.12 kernel from the preview or the 2.6.13?
[07:50] <neighborlee> bob2, what do you mean --initrd ??
[07:50] <gm78> Cryptid, it is like Windows Media Player...it plays everything. i use it for both music and video
[07:51] <gm78> pluffsy, i believe 2.6.12
[07:51] <fredforfaen> gm78 cool
[07:51] <inthenow> jamey3: maybe it has something to do with the .asoundrc file
[07:51] <fredforfaen> didnt know that it could play video
[07:51] <inthenow> jamey3: did you read that part?
[07:51] <bob2> gm78: right, which no one ever uses, since it has controls in the main menu for basically everything
[07:51] <pluffsy> gm78, alright... 2.6.13 would be neat, so it was easy to install beagle when it gets stable. well well.
[07:51] <bob2> neighborlee: man make-kpkg
[07:51] <gm78> Cryptid, it is a kde app though. i use it anyways, since i dont care if i run a "pure" desktop
[07:51] <obscurite> anyone have a lappy that's particularly ubuntu or linux friendly that they adore?
[07:52] <bob2> pluffsy: the ubuntu kernel has inotify
[07:52] <bob2> obscurite: ibm x40
[07:52] <bob2> obscurite: I'm yet to see a nicer laptop
[07:52] <pluffsy> bob2: oooh. alright. great. does the hoary kernel have it?
[07:52] <benuk> when i try to install breezy, in the install it gets to the bit where it runs /etc/hotplug/usb.pc and just hangs there
[07:52] <gm78> bob2, ah, but the second you install plugins, you sort of have to use the menus ;)
[07:52] <bob2> pluffsy: yes, it seems
[07:52] <obscurite> bob2, my only requirements is 2gb of ram and at usable vmware speed
[07:52] <bob2> benuk: please file a bug
[07:53] <pluffsy> bob2: cool. :)
[07:53] <bob2> pluffsy: (grep -i inotif /boot/config*)
[07:53] <Angel-SL> any more IDEs (definetly NOT Anjuta)
[07:53] <pluffsy> bob2: btw sorry for harassing you with all these questions all the time.
[07:53] <bob2> obscurite: ibm makes very lovely linux-friendly laptops
[07:53] <llpamies> I installed breezy and the first boot appear a splash image in the boot. Then I update the kernel, and the splash disappeared. How can I set it again ?
[07:53] <Cryptid> fredforfaen, from where did u get BMP i cant find it in synaptic
[07:53] <benuk> could someone help me plz
[07:53] <yhann> hi to all, i need help how to install an application on Kubuntu
[07:53] <fredforfaen> Cryptid ill get you the tutorial
[07:53] <obscurite> bob2, thanks again
[07:54] <nuk130n> yhann: from source ?
[07:54] <Versed> I have a toshiba but not sure I want to put it on it.
[07:54] <digitize> yhann: in the same manner you would with any debian distro, apt-get install app
[07:54] <bob2> obscurite: (wikiubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam)
[07:54] <yhann> No, from distro
[07:54] <neighborlee> bob2, alright so I presume cramfs is indeed patched in the 2.6.10 sources ?
[07:54] <fredforfaen> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[07:54] <bob2> llpamies: "update the kernel"? you compiled your own kernel?
[07:54] <bob2> neighborlee: the ubuntu ones, yes
[07:54] <fredforfaen> there Cryptid
[07:54] <nuk130n> yhann: or, if you're a newbie use synaptic
[07:54] <lenhan> Angel-SL: those two are ones I recommend, unless you prefer xemacs or vim ;-)
[07:55] <inthenow> jamey3: try creating the .asoundrc file it says on the url i gave you
[07:55] <obscurite> bob2, reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsFujitsu
[07:55] <MagicStick> hi guys..can anyone tell me how to check what services are running?
[07:55] <llpamies> bob2, no I update from amd64 to amd64-k8
[07:55] <Cryptid> fredforfaen, thanx i tried it worked i got a lot new software :-)
[07:55] <neighborlee> bob2, ok thx yes i mean the ones availble from synaptic
[07:55] <digitize> MagicStick: ps x
[07:55] <nuk130n> yhann: you should find the shortcut in the kde menu somewhere
[07:55] <Cryptid> fredforfaen, according to u which is better BMP or XMMS
[07:55] <fredforfaen> Cryptid yeah lotsa good stuff there
[07:55] <benuk> when i try to install breezy, in the install it gets to the bit where it runs /etc/hotplug/usb.pc and just hangs there.......what does everyone recoemmedn?
[07:55] <gm78> obscurite, check out www.linux-laptop.net also....some very good info there
[07:55] <fredforfaen> BPM
[07:55] <digitize> Cryptid: i like amarok (a kde player)
[07:55] <x[trick] x> bob when i burn a cd.. i should choose burn image?? is that right??
[07:55] <obscurite> gm78 - already scoured it =)
[07:55] <wezzer> hmm, beagle isn't working at breezy
[07:55] <fredforfaen> I love it...user friendly , gtk2 , and cool skins
[07:55] <gm78> obscurite, oh, lol
[07:55] <bob2> benuk: file a bug so it can be fixed
[07:56] <bob2> x[trick] x: depends if you're burning a cd image or not
[07:56] <obscurite> gm78 - tuxmobil is good too
[07:56] <MagicStick> digitize: that only shows the processes. i would like to know which services/daemons are running
[07:56] <boogie> beagle is a piece of crap beta project
[07:56] <MagicStick> eg ssh, apache
[07:56] <Cryptid> digitize, even i like it but all of a sudden it stopped working
[07:56] <digitize> MagicStick: type it as root
[07:56] <yhann> nuk130n: how can you use synaptic for something is not in package?
[07:56] <x[trick] x> ill be using it as a installation cd of kubuntu
[07:56] <llpamies> How can I set again the boot splash ?
[07:56] <BiSK-8> hello
[07:56] <bob2> MagicStick: how are you defining daemon?
[07:56] <fredforfaen> Cryptid bummer
[07:56] <fredforfaen> whats the error?
[07:56] <gm78> yhann, well then you have to follow the install instructions for that piece of software. read the README file
[07:56] <obscurite> I imagine the best supported hardware is the one the main kernel devs use... but I don't have that inside info. Probably mostly IBM =)
[07:56] <digitize> how many of you guys (with a 5.04 install) have updated sources.list with the breezy badger (5.10) repositories?
[07:57] <inthenow> jamey3: see this part in the last link i gave you  Lars G     terraformers@gmx.net
[07:57] <dazjorz> anyone who can help me with mounting .BIN / .CUE files to a filesystem ?
[07:57] <inthenow> Saturday, 08 November 2003
[07:57] <nuk130n> yhann: not in package? do you have a .deb file? or are you compiling it from the source?
[07:57] <bob2> obscurite: linus's current desktop is apparently an ibm power5 workstation
[07:57] <Cryptid> fredforfaen, it says it claims that i cant play ne files where as i have all the codecs installed and the same files play in other players like totem
[07:57] <yhann> ok, let me check the file...
[07:57] <NubeeOfUbuntu> where can i find a manual of ubuntu 5.04, so i can print it and study it. thx
[07:57] <BiSK-8> how can i see what hardware installed 2 my computer via ubuntu? i would like 2 know the motherboard brand and model and my processor model....is that possibile?
[07:57] <fredforfaen> Cryptid that sucks
[07:57] <bob2> obscurite: my only complaint about my x40 is that my hard disk is getting quite warm while upgrading to breezy
[07:57] <obscurite> bob2, I read he started using ppc when he got a dual 2.5 g5 gift
[07:58] <ubuntulnx> hi! anyone with experience on cpu temperature readings from /proc/acpi/thermal_zone??
[07:58] <lenhan> bob2: hehehe
[07:58] <ubuntulnx> this directory is empty for me
[07:58] <fredforfaen> Cryptid not shure i can help you but .........if you run it from cli does it output a error?
[07:58] <bob2> ubuntulnx: then your hardware isnt announcing temperatures using acpi
[07:58] <bob2> ubuntulnx: or the kernel doesn't know how to interpret it
[07:58] <lenhan> bob2: I suppose breezy can't keep your harddrive cool ;-)
[07:59] <Cryptid> fredforfaen, it actually dosent run ne thing it says command not found
[07:59] <obscurite> bob2, I might go powerppc except i'm keen to learn Xen which is x86 only right now
[07:59] <fredforfaen> Cryptid damn , im sorry to say that all i got for you then is google my friend :)
[07:59] <x[trick] x> bob i just want to clarify.. after i donwloaded the kubuntu 386-iso i have to extract it then i have tu write it on a cd using burn image?
[07:59] <x[trick] x> is that right??
[08:00] <ubuntulnx> bob2, ok.. ill see what settings are available in my bios (btw i can see cpu temperature, fan speed and voltages in bios)
[08:00] <x[trick] x> my nero version is 5.5
[08:00] <Cryptid> fredforfaen, its ok thats y i was planning to use BMP or XMMS now i am unable to understand which to use BMP or XMMS
[08:00] <bob2> obscurite: ppc laptops have issues with wireless, too
[08:00] <bob2> x[trick] x: extract it?
[08:00] <gm78> x[trick] x, no....just select burn image and then select the iso image within nero
[08:00] <gerarcone> hello, i have a 386 version of the kernel. how can i download the 686 version?
[08:01] <bob2> gerarcone: sudo aptitude install linux-686
[08:01] <obscurite> bob2, yeah, i am very angry about the broadcom/airport extreme nonsense. definitely lost apple a sale!
[08:01] <fredforfaen> Cryptid well give BPM a go , its worth it i think...but xmms is good to , old school!
[08:01] <benuk> guess i wont instal ubuntu then :(
[08:01] <gm78> fredforfaen, BMP...not BPM :-P
[08:01] <Rug> Howdy all
[08:01] <fredforfaen> gm78 sorry im stoned and drunk so...:P
[08:01] <boogie> you should install gentoo instead, it's much faster
[08:01] <gm78> fredforfaen, (minor nitpick)
[08:01] <fredforfaen> lol
[08:02] <fredforfaen> yeah
[08:02] <gm78> fredforfaen, lol\
[08:02] <microsoft_bob> ha ha!!!
[08:02] <gerarcone> bob2: is there a command to view all the possible kernels?
[08:02] <fredforfaen> SKL!
[08:02] <RIVANVX> hi, I have a problem with a laptop. In breezy, battery status occasionally (every second or every third refresh) shows 0% - then it gets back to normal again
[08:03] <bob2> gerarcone: apt-cache search --names-only linux-image-
[08:03] <Rug> What are the rules for setting up a Ubuntu mirror?  (I install it about 2-3 times per week) and if I had a local net-copy it would speed up install times.  I would only rsync once per month or so..
[08:03] <bob2> Rug: "go for it"
[08:03] <chrissturm> rug: you could use apt-proxy
[08:03] <obscurite> bob2, is IBM the cheapest place to get an IBM?
[08:04] <Cryptid> i got a Acer S2W 3300v Flat bed scanner but i am unable to use it on my Ubuntu what do i do Ubuntu dosent detect it automatically
[08:04] <pluffsy> btw. can any free software read nikons NEF files? I think I've heard the format is proprietary.
[08:04] <Rug> bob2: chrissturm:    Thanks...
[08:04] <bradypus> uuufffffffffffffff
[08:04] <bradypus> hi
[08:05] <bradypus> hi
[08:05] <bradypus> hi
[08:05] <gm78> Cryptid, it might not be support. check the sane website (google for it)
[08:05] <bradypus> hi
[08:05] <bradypus> hi
[08:05] <bradypus> hi
[08:05] <bob2> obscurite: no
[08:05] <bob2> obscurite: froogle.google.com
[08:05] <bob2> bradypus: do you really want to be banned?
[08:05] <bradypus> hi
[08:05] <Rug> bradypus: Hello
[08:05] <jessy> #ubuntu-fr
[08:05] <Kyral> Hey Seveas is your FreeNX repo working?
[08:05] <jessy> #ubuntu-fr
[08:06] <bradypus> hi
[08:06] <engie> I upgraded to breezy yesterday, and today there's a load of updates for me. Is this because it's still beign finished, or did the dist-upgrade yesterday miss a few packages?
[08:06] <bradypus> =))))))))))))))))))
[08:06] <bradypus> hi
[08:06] <bob2> bradypus: are you done?
[08:06] <engie> When I say few, I mean about 150...
[08:06] <bradypus> yea
[08:06] <Seveas> Kyral, no
[08:06] <bradypus> =)
[08:06] <reiki_work> ok I have to admit I'm confused.... if I want to change the look of my Ubuntu desktop. Do I look for a GDM Theme? A GTK2 Theme? Or do you just change backgrounds and window borders?
[08:06] <bob2> bradypus: do you really think it's ok to annoy 600 strangers?
[08:06] <bradypus> yea
[08:06] <Kyral> Can you tell me where I can get the Breezy FreeNX server then?
[08:06] <bob2> engie: breezy is still under heavy development
[08:07] <darkheart> engie Breezy is unstable, expect a lot of updates at any time.
[08:07] <engie> Cheers
[08:07] <fredforfaen> cheers
[08:07] <bob2> reiki_work: gdm = login screen
[08:07] <bob2> reiki_work: gtk2 = widgets
[08:07] <dazjorz> ./uplink: relocation error: ./uplink: undefined symbol: __glutRoot
[08:07] <darkheart> reiki_work What WM do you use?
[08:07] <dazjorz> what's this ?
[08:07] <bob2> dazjorz: it's miscompiled
[08:07] <dazjorz> bob2: I didn't compile the game...
[08:07] <engie> darkheart: It makes me feel like I'm back on Sid - happy times...
[08:08] <Kyral> or will the Hoary Backport version of the FreeNX package work in Breezy?
[08:08] <darkheart> engie Haha. I personally get enough of 'making things work' when I'm at work, so at home I stick with the stable releases.
[08:08] <Seveas> Kyral, i'm working on it -- the hoary one will not work
[08:08] <Kyral> gaah....I wanna get offa VNC and onto something more secure...
[08:09] <darkheart> Kyral In general, don't count on things going smoothly if you use a package from a different version..That kind of stuff breaks things.
[08:09] <Seveas> Kyral, wait a few minutes, it's almost back :)
[08:09] <Kyral> ty ty
[08:09] <darkheart> Kyral Tunnel your VNC through SSH.
[08:09] <Kyral> I'm kinda going it oddly
[08:09] <Cryptid> Does Breezy have more hardware support
[08:09] <Kyral> See, I'm VNC'd right now talking to you
[08:09] <Kyral> so I'm installing it over VNC :D
[08:09] <gm78> Cryptid, yes, it should, since it is using a newer kernel
[08:10] <Cryptid> Kernel version of Ubuntu 5.0 and 5.10 please
[08:10] <Kyral> there is no Ubuntu 5.0 :P
[08:10] <gm78> Cryptid, Ubuntu 5.04 has 2.6.10, Ubuntu 5.10 should have kernel 2.6.12.5
[08:10] <benuk> when i try to install breezy, in the install it gets to the bit where it runs /etc/hotplug/usb.pc and just hangs there.......what does everyone recoemmedn?
[08:10] <gm78> i think anyways
[08:10] <bob2> benuk: have you filed a bug yet?
[08:10] <gm78> benuk, file a bug, like someone said before
[08:11] <benuk> :( ok
[08:11] <Kyral> So if I have sshd working (and I made a pub/private key), FreeNX should encrypt it?
[08:11] <xSpecialistx> who here use dc_gui program?! because i dont know how connect this network!!!
[08:11] <benuk> i tried to install the hoary cd i got via the post and it wont even boot off it
[08:11] <benuk> but it does off my mates
[08:11] <benuk> tried 2 different cds
[08:11] <bob2> Kyral: presumably the other way round
[08:11] <keene> Has anyone been able to compile NVU yet?
[08:11] <Kyral> eh?
[08:11] <Seveas> ssh encrypts freenx :)
[08:11] <bob2> Kyral: presumably ssh encryprs NX
[08:11] <roham> !theme
[08:11] <ubotu> roham: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[08:11] <darkheart> keene There is a package for nvu
[08:11] <Kyral> yah thats what I meant
[08:12] <roham> !themes
[08:12] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[08:12] <xSpecialistx> !dc
[08:12] <ubotu> xSpecialistx: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:12] <keene> darkheart, where? It's not in synaptic
[08:12] <gm78> keene, dont bother compiling it. just untar the linspire tarball of it and it should work. you can also get an autopackage build for it
[08:12] <Kyral> oh someone mind explaining what the pub/private key I made was good for?
[08:12] <darkheart> keene Have you added any additional repositories?
[08:12] <Seveas> for nothing
[08:12] <Seveas> freenx and ssh create the keys they need
[08:12] <keene> I added the ones for the restricted formats
[08:12] <siimo> hi anyone here use gnome 2.12? i can only log in as root when i try to log in as a user through GDM it just sits there on the blank blue background screen
[08:12] <keene> and one for Wine
[08:13] <Kyral> then why in the Ubuntu Wiki on SSH it says to make them?
[08:13] <bob2> keys are useful for ssh, yes
[08:13] <darkheart> !tell keene about repositories
[08:13] <engie> Ohh, usplash works nice now :)
[08:13] <mindmedic> siimo, how can you log in as root? there is no root password?
[08:13] <bob2> since they allow you to authenticate without using passwords
[08:13] <Kyral> ah
[08:13] <siimo> mindmedic, i set one
[08:13] <gm78> darkheart, i dont believe nvu is in any of the repos
[08:13] <reiki_work> darkheart: sorry... has to step away for a sec... lunch arrived. I use Gnome, I thank you for your explainations of what the pieces are. :)
[08:13] <mindmedic> ah, ok, i use 2.12, and had no issues
[08:14] <Kyral> so instead of having to type my password, if I have the public key on the machine I'm shhing from, I don't have to type it?
[08:14] <Kyral> sshing even
[08:14] <mindmedic> siimo, have you tried creating a new user and login with it.
[08:14] <darkheart> reiki_work That was bob2 that explained it to ya =)
[08:14] <reiki_work> dang it
[08:14] <reiki_work> :)
[08:14] <reiki_work> bob2: thanks!
[08:14] <gm78> keene, have u tried the linspire build? or the autopackage build?
[08:14] <bob2> Kyral: you can set it up like that, yes
[08:15] <Kyral> and the private key is for what then?
[08:15] <Kyral> sorry I'm new to the whole SSH setup thing
[08:15] <darkheart> gm78 It's in the backports collection.
[08:15] <Versed> I was in compusa today, they had linspire there for sale.
[08:15] <bob2> Kyral: public key cryptography relies on the key being in two bits: the public and private parts.  the public bit you can safely give to anyway, private bit has to stay absolutely secret.
[08:15] <gm78> darkheart, ah, ok, i didnt know that
[08:15] <Kyral> ah
[08:16] <Kyral> hence the password encryption
[08:16] <bob2> Kyral: they're linked by a mathematical thing that means you can ecnrypt something with one half that can only be decrypted by the other half
[08:16] <engie> I'm trying to run banshee. It's a mono app, and complains that it can't load the System, System.Data, System.ComponentModel.EventHandlerList and System.Data.IDbConnection Assemblys... This strikes me strange - how do I check mono is installed OK?
[08:16] <Versed> friggin $50, linspire is giving the same package away for download right now.
[08:16] <bob2> Kyral: right, the private key is encrypted with a normal symmetric thing to help keep it secret
[08:16] <darkheart> reiki_work Oh, but if you want to theme gnome, you gotta look for gnome themes =)
[08:16] <keene> I'm just about to try the linspire build, since I still can't find it in the repositories
[08:16] <bob2> Kyral: gpg works the same way; people encrypt stuff to you using your public key, and no one without your private key can decrypt it
[08:16] <Kyral> so people need the public key to ssh to me?
[08:17] <darkheart> keene Did you examine the link that ubotu sent you?
[08:17] <sushubh> which gaim version to install on ubuntu?
[08:17] <engie> Is mono in breezy broken at the mo?
[08:17] <mindmedic> engie, nope it works
[08:17] <bob2> engie: if it is, file a bug
[08:17] <bob2> engie: but it seems to work here
[08:18] <engie> bob2: On a mission, filing away...
[08:18] <ubuntulnx> bob2, anything needs adjusting at kernel level?
[08:18] <Kyral> what does this mean in terms of ssh?
[08:18] <mindmedic> engie, it is the 1.1.8.3 version
[08:18] <bob2> ubuntulnx: for what?
[08:18] <gm78> bob2, you are always here. do you work for canonical (just curious)?
[08:18] <inthenow> jamey3: did you get anywhere?
[08:18] <bob2> Kyral: it means you can generate a keypair and put th public bit on the remote machine, so yo ucan ssh without a password
[08:18] <ubuntulnx> bob2, for reading cpu temperature from thermal_zone?
[08:18] <bob2> gm78: no, I'm just dumb and waste time here
[08:18] <dazjorz> how to list all folders in a directory that start with .
[08:18] <bob2> which I need to stop doing
[08:18] <dazjorz> not the contents, just the dir itself
[08:19] <bob2> dazjorz: ls -da .*
[08:19] <keene> darkheart, yeah I did
[08:19] <gm78> bob2, lol
[08:19] <Kyral> ah
[08:19] <bob2> I used to work for canonical
[08:19] <Kyral> so anyone with the Public key can ssh to me?
[08:19] <gm78> bob2, how come you left (again, just curious)?
[08:19] <Kyral> well, assuming they have an account
[08:19] <darkheart> keene Well add the backports repository and install nvu with apt-get
[08:19] <mcphail> bob2: did you get sacked for spending too much time on IRC?
[08:19] <gm78> mcphail, lol] 
[08:20] <bob2> gm78: time to get a "real job" ;)
[08:20] <mcphail> ;p
[08:20] <bob2> mcphail: haha
[08:20] <inthenow> I have onboard audio and an extra sound card in my system. But on the sound card is working.. is the nforce2 onboard audio supposed to work as well?
[08:21] <gm78> bob2, im curious....does canonical have any customers yet...or is mark shuttleworth still doing ubuntu just for the benefit of the community? a lot of people have asked that elsewhere
[08:21] <bob2> gm78: it has customers
[08:21] <linukso> Hi! I am trying to install hoary on a dual P3, but the smp kernel wont load, it is complaining about device nodes and initrd.
[08:21] <bob2> but I don't know what information is public and what is not, so I can't say any more than that, sorry
[08:21] <xSpecialistx> who know dc_gui???
[08:21] <gm78> bob2, oh, thats alright, i wasnt asking for specifics :)
[08:22] <keene> How stable is the backports version? It's not the latest release.
[08:22] <gigaclon> I can't login to secure sites with firefox
[08:22] <keene> btw, that means I found it, darkheart, thanks :)
[08:22] <gm78> bob2, they should invest in some remote management tools to compete with zenworks and red hat network....give novell and red hat a run for their money
[08:23] <darkheart> keene Np..If you want a newer version, I'm sure you can find a .deb package somewhere. But I recommend trying the ubuntu package to see how you like it first.
[08:23] <bob2> gm78: apt!
[08:23] <ui> how do i change de foot of gnome menu?
[08:24] <kebaben> i was update my system when my computer turn of, when it restart it was only memtest in grub, i am now in an live cd so i hade add windows xp but i cant add ubuntu because there is no initrd and kernel in /boot/
[08:24] <kebaben> how can i do?
[08:24] <BiSK-8> sry guys
[08:24] <gm78> bob2, apt doesnt have remote monitoring tools and such that are included in zenworks and rhn though. I'm talking about a tool to monitor and admin like thousands of desktops
[08:24] <BiSK-8> but i was out
[08:24] <BiSK-8> can u repete plz
[08:24] <BiSK-8> ?
[08:24] <BiSK-8> how can i see what hardware installed 2 my computer via ubuntu? i would like 2 know the motherboard brand and model and my processor model....is that possibile?
[08:25] <bob2> BiSK-8: unlikely
[08:26] <BiSK-8> and what abt the processor?
[08:26] <Necron69> BiSK-8: /proc/cpuinfo will tell you part of that.
[08:26] <mindmedic> BiSK-8, and your motherboard type should show up on booting, or in the bios setup
[08:27] <Kyral> So this is gonna be fun. As soon as Seveas gets his repo back up, I'm gonna aptInstall the FreeNX package, then download the FreeNX client for Windows ('cause the Build Maintainer for our Linux Lab hasn't installed the client yet) and try it :D
[08:27] <kebaben> noone know how i can do?
[08:28] <linukso> problems solved!!! get linux-686-smp instead of linux-image-686-smp
[08:30] <Cryptid> how do i get ml donkey i tried "sudo apt-get install mldonkey" but it dosent seem to work
[08:30] <ui> how do i change de foot of gnome menu?
[08:31] <darkheart> Cryptid Did you add more repositories?
[08:31] <BiSK-8> mindmedic, necron69, ok.... i see............see i wanna put a new graphix card and a new ramdisk.... for the graphix card i would like a ati raedon x800 but i dunno if it'll work with my motherboard...and i dont know what ramdisk 2 get
[08:31] <Cryptid> darkhear, yes the multiverse thing rite i did add it
[08:31] <darkheart> Cryptid What's the error then?
[08:32] <BiSK-8> what do u think i should do?
[08:33] <Cryptid> no i tried installing it from synaptec but after installtion i cant find the software i dunno where to find it i tried running mldonkey in terminal but even that didnt work
[08:33] <Kyral> Can FreeNX forward sound?
[08:33] <darkheart> Cryptid What error does it give you?
[08:33] <bob2> X doesn't do sound
[08:34] <Cryptid> darkheart, when i tried sudo apt-get install mldonkey it says package not found what do i do?
[08:34] <Kyral> bah
[08:34] <Cryptid> darkheart, no i tried installing it from synaptec but after installtion i cant find the software i dunno where to find it i tried running mldonkey in terminal but even that didnt work
[08:34] <Necron69> BiSK-8: I don't much about ramdisks, but assuming the video card and motherboard support the same level AGP interface, I don't know why you'd have a problem with it.
[08:34] <BiSK-8> well
[08:34] <BiSK-8> my mb is 3 years old
[08:34] <bob2> presuably ram disks use IDE
[08:35] <bob2> also, it sounds like you just have too much moneyt
[08:35] <sportman> there is audio in ubuntu, but not for cedega
[08:35] <darkheart> Cryptid Okay..what exactly is going on? If it says package not found when you tried to install it, why would you think it was installed?
[08:35] <ubuntulnx> bob2, for reading cpu temperature from thermal_zone, do i need to change settings in the kernel i get from ubuntu?
[08:35] <Necron69> BiSK-8: You need to get the specs on the board.   Manual or manufacturer's website.
[08:35] <chicken-man> Hi every one
[08:35] <Kyral> Anyway it would be faster and more secure
[08:35] <darkheart> Cryptid And if it was installed, but when you run 'mldonkey' on the command line and it doesn't work, then it produces an error.
[08:35] <bob2> ubuntulnx: I doubt that's the problem
[08:35] <dwerf> how do i install cedega (or whatever) from the shell?
[08:35] <sportman> rtfm
[08:35] <sportman> its easy to install
[08:36] <Kyral> !lart sportman
[08:36] <sportman> go to the cedega howto on the cedega website
[08:36] <dwerf> of course
[08:36] <BiSK-8> necron69....ok
[08:36] <BiSK-8> thanks
[08:36] <ubuntulnx> bob2, ok, 1st stop bios. thx!
[08:36] <sportman> download the .deb of point2play
[08:36] <Cryptid> darkheart, in terminal it says command not found but i am sure it got installed the time i tried to get it from synaptec
[08:36] <sportman> and do dpkg -i cedegapoint2play.deb
[08:36] <sportman> or what ever it is
[08:36] <topyli> ooh! ubotu now has a BFG9000! pr33r ubotu's skillz!
[08:37] <darkheart> Cryptid Well, open synaptic and search for mldonkey and tell me for sure if it's installed or not.
[08:37] <sportman> but im having trouble with audio in cedega
[08:37] <sportman> its wierd, i got audio in every other program
[08:37] <Cryptid> ok
[08:38] <mcphail> sportman: ask ubotu about sound. It might help.
[08:38] <Cryptid> darkheart, hehe its not installed u were rite now it shows mldonkey server and mldonket-gui which 1 do i install
[08:38] <Krneki> hay
[08:38] <Rockett18> !sound
[08:38] <ubotu> sound is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[08:38] <Krneki> guys where is in ubuntu startup manager
[08:38] <dwerf> sportman > ok
[08:38] <Krneki> that i can add programs to startup
[08:39] <Answer> Question: I need some help with GREP SED AWK anybody an expert? :)
[08:39] <darkheart> Cryptid You want both. mldonkey-server is the backend, mldonkey-gui is the GUI interface to manage it.
[08:39] <bob2> Krneki: what would you want to add?
[08:39] <bob2> Answer: it's way easier if you just ask your question
[08:39] <p0windah> answer: just ask
[08:39] <gigaclon> can I safely remove firefox without messing up the system?
[08:39] <bob2> gigaclon: it's easier not to
[08:39] <Krneki> i want add my web server, ipv6.sh (settings for tunnel) and firewall
[08:40] <bob2> Krneki: your webserver is already running
[08:40] <Cryptid> darkheart, thanx for all ur help now i will install it and if i have ne problem i will let u know. do u use mldonkey?and if u do, do u like it?
[08:40] <sportman> lol
[08:40] <Krneki> no it is not
[08:40] <gigaclon> I want to downgrade because firefox is not letting me do secure logins
[08:40] <bob2> Krneki: tunnels settings can be done in better ways
[08:40] <sportman> that ubuntu sound thing is not helping
[08:40] <sportman> but w.e.
[08:40] <bob2> Krneki: every web serever in ubuntu runs automatically
[08:40] <bob2> Krneki: as for firewall, /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian
[08:40] <bob2> unless you did something silly like compiling apache
[08:40] <Cryptid> darkherat, are the server and gui the only 2 files i need or are there ne more files
[08:41] <darkheart> Cryptid Np, I am actually leaving in a few minutes =\ but no, I don't use mldonkey. I tried it and it seemed really nice, but it didn't work as it was and I didn't feel like trying to make it work at the time.
[08:41] <Krneki> so is there any startup thing in ubuntu or not
[08:41] <darkheart> Cryptid I use aMule
[08:41] <KanRiNiN> Hey, I just ran the ATI installer.  Now to complete it, I just copy the xorg.conf to my /etc/x11 directory, right?  but I don't have permission.  what do I do??
[08:41] <bob2> Krneki: of course, update-rc.d
[08:41] <reiki_work> bob2: what may be confusing is that Ubuntu's default web ends up in /var/www/apach2 instead of simply being in /var/www
[08:41] <darkheart> Cryptid Only the server and the gui should suffice, I believe.
[08:41] <mcrandello> does anyone know what package I would find intltoolize in?
[08:41] <bob2> Krneki: but you don't need it in practice
[08:41] <mcrandello> autogen.sh is not working without it
[08:41] <bob2> mcrandello: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:41] <Answer> Question: I want to search through a text file for lines that begin with Battery, and also have the previous line (which begins with Fri).  grep -e ^Fri -e ^Battery almost works but there are extraneous ^Fri lines
[08:41] <darkheart> Cryptid But read the package descriptions as well, maybe you'll want something else.
[08:41] <bob2> KanRiNiN: it's best to ignore it entirely and follow wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:42] <Krneki> canyou tell me where can i find it
[08:42] <mcphail> Krneki: yes. There are a couple of ways to start things up at boot
[08:42] <Krneki> so tell me some ways
[08:42] <bob2> Krneki: it's installed by default
[08:42] <reiki_work> bob2: clarifying... /var/www is the ROOT web, but the apache default site ends up in /var/www/apache2
[08:42] <Answer> Question: Anybody got madwifi debian package?
[08:42] <Cryptid> darkherat, i installed aMule all went well but it didnt startup when i clicked on it the same happens with XMMS and BMP my sys is all screwed up
[08:42] <Krneki> which command would that be
[08:42] <bob2> reiki_work: ah
[08:42] <bob2> Answer: no, there's no point, the ubuntu kernels include the madwifi drivers
[08:43] <Answer> bob2: reeeally... are there config files or anything?
[08:43] <Answer> bob2: documentation proving that the ubuntu kernel includes madwifie? :)
[08:43] <bob2> Answer: ...
[08:43] <bob2> no, I'm lying to you
[08:43] <Krneki> so tell tell
[08:43] <Krneki> :D
[08:43] <darkheart> Cryptid I have to go in a couple min, but open a console and type 'xmms' and tell me what it says
[08:43] <bob2> Krneki: update-rc.d
[08:43] <Answer> bob2: Where can I find more information on madwifi drivers incorporated with the ubuntu kernel please?
[08:43] <dwerf> this is weird: my desktop is like half-locked - with context menu's missing and i can't right-click taskbars
[08:44] <bob2> Krneki: but none of those 3 problems require adding init scripts
[08:44] <bob2> Answer: I don't understand what you want to know
[08:44] <p0windah> dwerf: you just upgraded to breezy ?
[08:44] <KanRiNiN> thanks bob2, what's the command to restart gnome?  ctrl alt esc?
[08:44] <bob2> Answer: the drivers come installed by default
[08:44] <dwerf> yes i think i did
[08:44] <mcrandello> bob2,: thx
[08:44] <dwerf> or would i know for usre
[08:44] <p0windah> dwerf: reboot and enjoy new kernel goodness
[08:44] <Answer> bob2: A webpage I can show my boss that proves such
[08:44] <bob2> Answer: packages.ubuntu.com if for some silly reason you think I'm lying
[08:44] <dwerf> thanx
[08:44] <Cryptid> darkheart, its ok i dont want to keep u waiting here to answer my stupid question but ne way it says some Xlib not supported
[08:44] <Krneki> oh come on is so hard to tell
[08:44] <bob2> Krneki: update-rc.d
[08:45] <bob2> Krneki: I'm not sure what the point of ignoring my answer is
[08:45] <bob2> you're wasting your time more than mine
[08:45] <boxerboy> anyone else having problems updating breezy?
[08:45] <darkheart> Cryptid Hmm...sounds like you are missing some package which is weird...I'm sorry I have to leave, but ask around, I'm sure you will find help and good luck.
[08:45] <Krneki> i can't run xampp other way
[08:45] <p0windah> boxerboy: reboot after it upgrades
[08:45] <Answer> bob2: Searching packages.ubuntu.com returns no results for madwifi
[08:45] <Krneki> i have it for my server php apache mysql
[08:45] <boxerboy> i cant get the upgrades
[08:45] <bob2> Answer: indeed, you'd have to actually search for the correct module names
[08:46] <p0windah> what do you mean, "can't get" ?
[08:46] <bob2> Krneki: what on earth is "xampp"?
[08:46] <Cryptid> darkheart, thanx for all ur help and yes i will ask some 1 else Bye. and have a nice time
[08:46] <Answer> bob2: What are the correct module names for madwifi ?
[08:46] <boxerboy> its saying couldnt get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock- open
[08:46] <mcphail> Krneki: why install XAMPP when the ubuntu packages are fine?
[08:46] <Krneki> it is program which install all apache php and mysql in one simple install
[08:46] <p0windah> boxerboy: is synaptic open, apt-get XXX running in a terminal somewhere ?
[08:46] <Krneki> :D
[08:46] <boxerboy> unable to lock download directory
[08:47] <p0windah> boxerboy: if you are sure you dont have a process doing updates somewhere, you can just manually delete the lockfile
[08:47] <mcphail> Krneki: so is apt...
[08:47] <bob2> Krneki: that's silly, sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server
[08:47] <boxerboy> synaptic is only thing open
[08:47] <reiki_work> Krneki: don't do that in Ubuntu. Install apache2, install mysql, install php
[08:47] <Answer> bob2: I am showing madwifi for 386 as a linux-restricted-module which means it is not included by default?
[08:47] <bob2> Answer: incorrect
[08:48] <mititelu`> hello, how can i make xmms work
[08:48] <Krneki> yeah when i try nothing work
[08:48] <reiki_work> Krneki: or what bob2 said .... that all-in-one thing you're talking about is not a good idea
[08:48] <sportman> they said that esound server on ubunut was why it didnt work
[08:48] <sedatc> +e sedatc
[08:48] <mititelu`> xmms blocks when i hit play
[08:48] <Krneki> so i do this and work perfect
[08:48] <dwerf> so what's good about breezy?
[08:48] <bob2> Krneki: "nothing work" is not a useful description of a problem
[08:48] <mcrandello> does anyone know what the "autoconf macro directory" refers to and why is automake too stupid to copy the files there itself?
[08:48] <Krneki> only that i have to start it every reboot
[08:48] <bob2> mcrandello: what are you compiling
[08:48] <sedatc> services sets mode +e sedatc
[08:48] <mcrandello> xqf
[08:48] <sedatc> hi all
[08:48] <mititelu`> xmms blocks when i hit play, on any tune, there is no force quit, nothing, it just freezes until i shut down
[08:48] <boxerboy> ill brb im gonna refreash this see if i cant get in it thwn
[08:48] <mititelu`> somebody help me pls
[08:48] <Krneki> and now i need to know how make it run itself
[08:48] <bob2> mititelu`: tell it to use esound for the output plugin
[08:48] <bob2> Krneki: I already told you 4 times, update-rc.d
[08:49] <Cryptid> mititelu, even i got the same problem
[08:49] <p0windah> sportman: the paid transgaming support is worse
[08:49] <bob2> Krneki: also, you're wasting your time, you could have installed the packages and had it done by now
[08:49] <sedatc> I have a problem about connecting internet from different lans
[08:49] <sedatc> I can connect internet from my home
[08:49] <mititelu`> thanks i'll try
[08:49] <Cryptid> mititelu`, even i got the same problem
[08:49] <bob2> Cryptid: then follow the same solution
[08:49] <p0windah> dwerf: nice new gnome stuff
[08:49] <mititelu`> now i have to reinstall ;-)
[08:49] <juerry> how can i download another version of the kernel?
[08:49] <Cryptid> bob2, ok
[08:49] <p0windah> dwerf: and ooo
[08:49] <bob2> mititelu`: of course not
[08:49] <mcrandello> is there some directory buried under /usr or is it someplace in the source tree I have to copy these things? I already tried the same dir as autogen.sh and it still didn't find them :(
[08:49] <sedatc> but I cant connect from my job
[08:49] <bob2> juerry: why?
[08:49] <dwerf> like what?
[08:49] <mcphail> Krneki: how often do you update the packages installed by XAMPP? Have you patched for the latest apache exploits? apt-get does this for you...
[08:49] <bob2> mcrandello: what are you compiling?
[08:50] <sedatc> why cant
[08:50] <mcrandello> bob2, xqf
[08:50] <Krneki> am
[08:50] <p0windah> dwerf: I think there is a changelog .. :)
[08:50] <Krneki> i do XAMPP yesterday
[08:50] <mcrandello> there's a package but it's a bit out of date
[08:50] <Cryptid> bob2, but what is the solution
[08:50] <Krneki> no afraid about bugs
[08:50] <Krneki> :D
[08:50] <dwerf> where can i find it?
[08:50] <bob2> Krneki: and look, a day later you're still stuck on it
[08:50] <bob2> mcrandello: xqf - X-based Quake Server Browser
[08:50] <bob2> mcrandello: (it's already in ubuntu)
[08:50] <Krneki> it works good
[08:50] <p0windah> I'm sure there is a link on the main ubuntu.com site
[08:50] <bob2> Cryptid: 04:48:53           bob2 | mititelu`: tell it to use esound for the output plugin
[08:50] <mcrandello> bob2, I need the nweer version
[08:50] <bob2> Krneki: except it doesn't start, how useful
[08:51] <Krneki> i can't help i don't know how to configure mysql and php that will work phpmyadmin and so on
[08:51] <bob2> mcrandello: then you need to read the configure.in or .ac to find the config/ dir
[08:51] <p0windah> read the top news article on right hand side of ubuntu.com site dwerf
[08:51] <benjam1n> how do i add a top-level menu under the gnome applications menu?
[08:51] <bob2> Krneki: you don't need to configure anytyhing if you use the ubuntu packages
[08:51] <mcrandello> bob2, that would = the autoconf macro dir?
[08:51] <Krneki> bob2: so can you please tell me how to add thos thing
[08:51] <bob2> mcrandello: I'd think so
[08:51] <bob2> Krneki: holy god
[08:51] <bob2> Krneki: update-rc.d
[08:52] <Answer> !holy god
[08:52] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Answer
[08:52] <Answer> hhaahah
[08:52] <oracel> can I install the breezy preview and seamlessly upgrade to the full release later?
[08:52] <oracel> or would I have to do a reinstall=
[08:52] <oracel> ?
[08:52] <bob2> oracel: if you follow the instructions, yes
[08:52] <p0windah> no need to reinstall
[08:52] <benjam1n> is there a textfile or something somewhere that i can edit to change the apps under applications, i want to add a category for development tools
[08:52] <Answer> oracel: where there is a will, there is a way
[08:52] <p0windah> oracel: note that the breezy preview is not entirely stable
[08:52] <bob2> p0windah: why?
[08:53] <Krneki> where is update-rc.d located
[08:53] <bob2> benjam1n: /msg ubotu smeg
[08:53] <bob2> Krneki: jesus dude
[08:53] <juerry> bob2: i have 1.25GB of ram, but the system is working with 850
[08:53] <bob2> Krneki: it's in your PATH
[08:53] <p0windah> if it were stable, it would be named preview I'm guessing
[08:53] <bob2> juerry: what cpu?
[08:53] <p0windah> and they wouldnt be saking for community feedback on problems ?
[08:53] <Krneki> ok
[08:53] <p0windah> asking, too
[08:53] <Krneki> founded
[08:53] <Krneki> D:
[08:53] <Krneki> :D
[08:53] <juerry> bob2: p4
[08:53] <mcrandello> bob2, okay I didn't see anything that looked obvious I'm gonna copy *.m4 into every damn dir in the source tree that should get sometwhere right?
[08:53] <oracel> p0windah, I haven't been running anything even remotely close to stable the last few days; breezy will probably feel like the rocky mountains to me now :)
[08:53] <bob2> juerry: sudo aptitude install linux-686
[08:54] <p0windah> oracel: just so you know :)
[08:54] <bob2> mcrandello: that seems suboptimal
[08:54] <mcrandello> bob2, I know :(
[08:54] <p0windah> oracel: but you should be fine, just apt-get dist-upgrade and you're good :)
[08:54] <oracel> 01101010 downloading! 01010001
[08:54] <p0windah> I smile too much
[08:55] <mcrandello> bob2, I just can't beleive that something with the word "auto" in it could be so damn frustrating compared the the "manual" method (./configure;make;make installl)
[08:55] <juerry> bob2: thank you very much
[08:56] <bob2> mcrandello: do you know what autogen.sh is?
[08:56] <dwerf> is it possible to upgrade to breezy, or is it a full install?
[08:56] <bob2> Krneki: so, a) you're wasting yours and our time, b) don't /msg me
[08:56] <bob2> dwerf: of course
[08:56] <mcrandello> I'm under the impression it automatically creates config files
[08:56] <dwerf> me so silly
[08:56] <Answer>  /msg bob2 for a good time
[08:56] <mcrandello> for the lucky people, that is
[08:56] <p0windah> dwerf: you're in for a treat
[08:56] <bob2> Krneki: if you want to go and make it hard for yourself by using "LAMPP" or whatever, read /usr/share/doc/sysvrc/
[08:56] <dwerf> can i do it from the shell?
[08:57] <sportman> hey should gma900 work with hardware accell
[08:57] <sportman> right away?
[08:57] <p0windah> sure can
[08:57] <sportman> i get this error direct rendering: No
[08:57] <bob2> Krneki: hint: put init scripts in /etc/init.d/ and install them into runlevels with update-rc.d
[08:57] <sportman> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[08:57] <bob2> mcrandello: no
[08:57] <Krneki> bob2 i can do it your way
[08:57] <Krneki> if you will help me
[08:57] <bob2> mcrandello: it generates the ./configure script, and the ./configure script generates the makefiles
[08:57] <bob2> Krneki: remove all this shit
[08:57] <dwerf> how?
[08:57] <Krneki> ok
[08:57] <Krneki> go private
[08:57] <Krneki> talk
[08:57] <mcrandello> bob2, that doesn't stop me from hating it
[08:57] <bob2> Krneki: then sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server
[08:57] <dwerf> apt-get breezy? ;-)
[08:58] <p0windah> dwerf: theres probably a page somewhere
[08:58] <bob2> Krneki: no, I'm not talking to you in private
[08:58] <bob2> dwerf: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[08:58] <bob2> dwerf: do not upgrade if you care about binary-only drivers
[08:58] <p0windah> dwerf: but in a nutshell, change hoary in /etc/apt/sources.list to breezy, then apt-get update; apt-get distupgrade
[08:58] <Kyral> Is there any other way to get FreeNX other than through Seveas repo?
[08:58] <Answer> !tell dwerf about breezy
[08:58] <KanRiNiN> bob2, thanks much for the binary link.  they're working fine now.  I have an error message now when gnome loads up though.   I took a screenshot, can you look at it and give me your thoughts?
[08:58] <Krneki> ok
[08:58] <p0windah> apt-get dist-upgrade, rather
[08:58] <Krneki> so what do i do
[08:58] <bob2> Krneki: so, stop talking and start reading
[08:58] <Krneki> ok
[08:58] <bob2> Krneki: I've given you complete solutions to both options
[08:59] <Cryptid> what to i press to see the running process list like ctrl+alt+Del in windows what is it in ubuntu
[08:59] <bob2> KanRiNiN: best to include urels in questions like that
[08:59] <gigaclon> bob2, can you help me with my firefox problem
[08:59] <Krneki> ok so what do i do
[08:59] <mcphail> Cryptid: top
[08:59] <KanRiNiN> error activating xkb configuration
[08:59] <bob2> Krneki: so, stop talking
[08:59] <venzen> Crypt: type: ps aux
[08:59] <bob2> Krneki: and then read again what I said
[08:59] <meuserj|work> Cryptid, or run gnome-system-monitor
[08:59] <Krneki> i need full server apache php mysql and phpmyadmin
[08:59] <bob2> Krneki: I've told you 5 times how to unbreak your mess, and twice how to do it properly
[08:59] <bob2> Krneki: again, shut up
[09:00] <bob2> Krneki: and read what I've said
[09:00] <Krneki> where what you say
[09:00] <Answer> bob2: just ignore him... there's no need to be rude
[09:00] <bob2> Krneki: scroll up
[09:00] <Krneki> i remove xampp
[09:00] <p0windah> we all have a shitlist, use it
[09:00] <bob2> there is when people insist on wasting my time and being rude to me
[09:00] <bob2> and everyone else's
[09:00] <Answer> you are wasting your own time by responding to him
[09:00] <Krneki> i lost myself in this txrt
[09:00] <bob2> indeed
[09:01] <bob2> Krneki: /lastlog bob2, and read
[09:01] <cyphase> is there any way to make linux play .mov sound?
[09:01] <p0windah> Krneki: it might be easier if you did a little searching on the ubuntu community forums
[09:01] <bob2> I have an odd desire to reform people who annoy me
[09:01] <bob2> the forums will give you even worse advice
[09:01] <bob2> Krneki: reboot
[09:01] <bob2> Krneki: 04:57:51           bob2 | Krneki: then sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server
[09:01] <Answer> bob2: don't paste in here! hehehe
[09:01] <p0windah> heh
[09:01] <mcrandello> bob2 I hope I'm not annoying you too much
[09:02] <p0windah> mcrandello: you are
[09:02] <mcrandello> I thought so :(
[09:02] <p0windah> hell, he hates irc
[09:02] <gigaclon> anyone else have problems with https logins in firefox
[09:02] <Krneki> i still don't see anywhere any packages (which one has to be installed)
[09:02] <Answer> mcrandello:  you are ok.  please state your question in one line :)
[09:02] <p0windah> gigaclon: nope
[09:02] <bob2> Krneki: holy god
[09:02] <bob2> 05:01:40           bob2 | Krneki: 04:57:51           bob2 | Krneki: then sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server
[09:02] <bob2> Krneki: again, be quiet and read
[09:02] <Answer> Krneki: Please ask your system administrator.  You do not have sufficient priviledges to install the packages
[09:02] <dwerf> downloading breezy right now - i know it's beta, but it's probably ten times more stable than any new release of windows
[09:02] <bob2> Krneki: that command installs those packages
[09:03] <gigaclon> any reason why I would be unable to use secure logins in firefox
[09:03] <Krneki> which command
[09:03] <Krneki> :(
[09:03] <bob2> Krneki: holy god
[09:03] <bob2> sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php4 mysql-server
[09:03] <venzen> giga: you have a firewall?
[09:03] <gigaclon> no
[09:03] <Answer> gigaclon: give the url you want to login to
[09:03] <kevogod> gigaclon, Does it pop up a dialog box?
[09:03] <gigaclon> no
[09:03] <gigaclon> its https sites
[09:03] <gigaclon> like paypal
[09:03] <venzen> giga: url?
[09:03] <gigaclon> www.paypal.com
[09:03] <mcrandello> Answer, I am looking for the directory in which to copy a whole bunch of m4 files for autogen.sh. What variable would I look after in configure.in?
[09:04] <venzen> giga: in general?
[09:04] <mcrandello> crap that was two lines
[09:04] <gigaclon> yeah
[09:04] <bob2> mcrandello: why are you running that at all?
[09:04] <KanRiNiN> bob I found the problem.  my xorg.conf file is completely empty.  but yet the driver loaded.  any ideas?  can I generate a new one?
[09:04] <gigaclon> anything that is https
[09:04] <Krneki> is that all
[09:04] <Krneki> :D
[09:04] <bob2> mcrandello: just get the tarball
[09:04] <bob2> KanRiNiN: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:04] <Kyral> Seveas, should I just wait until tomarrow EST to try the server?
[09:04] <Answer> mcrandello: please state your problem and what you hope to accomplish.  there may be alternatives
[09:04] <Gavrila> guys I don't understand... breezy just updated when I load X with fglrx on my laptop the screen is "blurry"
[09:05] <Gavrila> if I load it with ati driver instead it is fine
[09:05] <Kyral> You have to reinstall it
[09:05] <karma_> Hello! I need advice on software: i need prog that acts like "tail -f", but colourful and can work with multiple files simultaneously
[09:05] <Gavrila> Kyral, to reinstall what?
[09:05] <Krneki> am how do install phpmyadmin?
[09:05] <Kyral> aptInstall the fglrx_config package
[09:05] <p0windah> bob2: I feel your frustration
[09:05] <Kyral> and run it
[09:05] <mcrandello> I;m trying to compile the cvs of xqf to get support for some stuff that was just added. I'll get the tgz here in a sec and see if it has it
[09:05] <gigaclon> sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[09:06] <p0windah> Krneki: type /msg p0windah please, o lord help me
[09:06] <ompaul> Gavrila, at the end of the day, that is because ati have not open sourced their card
[09:06] <Krneki> am no
[09:06] <p0windah> I beg of you, let me help you out and spare the channel from your repetition
[09:06] <Gavrila> Kyral,  but this same configuration worked well until yesterday with fglrx on breezy
[09:06] <sedatc> hi all
[09:06] <Answer> Krneki: Please ask your system administrator.  You do not have sufficient priviledges to install the packages.
[09:06] <Kyral> Gavrila, I've been going through the same thing with the NVidia driver
[09:06] <Gavrila> ompaul, he I know... but this is m laptop and I can't change it...
[09:07] <transgress> hey what package is the fixed font in?
[09:07] <Gavrila> Kyral, and you did rewrite a new xorg.conf to solve it?
[09:07] <Gavrila> and did you*
[09:07] <Kyral> No, I recompiled the NVidia driver :P
[09:07] <sedatc> I want to recover grub after installing windows how can I find which partition my linux is installed
[09:07] <ompaul> Gavrila, well it seems to me that you have been asking that question since around 8am my time this morning
[09:08] <transgress> sedatc: fdisk
[09:08] <sedatc> is there a way that I can see partition table from windows
[09:08] <Gavrila> ompaul, "since" is wrong
[09:08] <ompaul> Gavrila, okay you asked then you ask now :)
[09:08] <Gavrila> I asked it _at_ that time and now after a new upgrade
[09:08] <Answer> sedatc: you need to set the linux partition to active and bootable, probably with fdisk like transgreess said
[09:08] <ompaul> Gavrila, and after every upgrade it will be the same due to the ati card
[09:08] <sedatc> fdisk is a windows command or linux
[09:08] <Gavrila> ompaul, I don't see the reason for it
[09:08] <claudia> hi!
[09:09] <Answer> sedatc: fdisk is a dos command :)
[09:09] <Gavrila> I mean tis is not my first updgrade and it always worked fine
[09:09] <claudia> I have a lot of .ogg files here and my MP3 player cant play them
[09:09] <sedatc> Answer: I couldnt make it run in winxp
[09:09] <Gavrila> I still don't understand if it's aknown bug now or if it has to be investigated further
[09:09] <claudia> I heard that .ogg files are music files like .mp3 but my MP3 player cannot play them
[09:09] <venzen> claudia: which player?
[09:09] <claudia> is there a command line converter for ogg to mp3?
[09:10] <claudia> venzen, one from Dell
[09:10] <claudia> its also an usbstick
[09:10] <Gavrila> "ati" driver makes my windows scrolling a pain :(
[09:10] <sedatc> I have a bootable ubuntu but I lost grub
[09:10] <venzen> claudia: then it can't!
[09:10] <Answer> sedatc: boot into ubuntu and reinstall grub then
[09:10] <claudia> like, oggToEnc path_to_folder_with_oggs
[09:10] <venzen> claudia: what does dell say?
[09:10] <Answer> claudia: search in Synaptic for ogg and install the libraries and stuff
[09:10] <sedatc> Answer, but I cant boot into ubuntu because of windows
[09:10] <venzen> Answer: claudia is talking abt a hw player
[09:11] <GoClick> !dvd
[09:11] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[09:11] <ompaul> Gavrila, if you feel it is a bug - go for it, if wrong good, if right at least it has been reported
[09:11] <claudia> venzen, does such a converter exist?
[09:11] <mcphail> claudia: if you convert from ogg to mp3, the quality will be awful
[09:11] <ompaul> Gavrila, and no doubt you will get a reply one way or the other
[09:11] <sedatc> Answer, Since I installed windows after ubuntu I lost ubuntu and Grub
[09:11] <claudia> mcphail, i know
[09:11] <claudia> but i have to do it
[09:11] <ompaul> !tell sedatc about restore
[09:11] <sedatc> Answer, so I cant boot into ubuntu
[09:11] <claudia> the sources are gone
[09:12] <transgress> hey can someone tell me... is the fixed font supposed to be in xfonts-base?
[09:12] <claudia> so I cant recreate mp3 files from them (besides i dunno how to do it)
[09:12] <ompaul> !tell sedatc about grub
[09:12] <ompaul> sedatc, that message from ubotu will help
[09:12] <Answer> sedatc: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;%5bLN%5d;Q313348
[09:12] <umberleigh> can anyone reccommend a kde based firewall gui and/or point me to some reviews?
[09:13] <luzbelito> hi to all. when i insert a blank cd / dvd ubuntu opens a window CD/DVD CREATOR. how i deactivate it ????????
[09:13] <Answer> umberleigh: shorewall is a firewall
[09:13] <sedatc> ompaul, I read the staff about rescue
[09:13] <dazjorz> heya
[09:13] <claudia> no ogg->mp3 converter exists? bad :(
[09:13] <dazjorz> I need this file: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[09:13] <dazjorz> where to get it ?
[09:13] <mcphail> claudia: you need an ogg player that will output to stdout and an mp3 encoder which will read from stdin.
[09:13] <Gavrila> ompaul, ok I'm reporting
[09:13] <venzen> umber: shorewall is good, smoothwall is easier
[09:13] <annex> I have installed Ubuntu 5.04 on a partition to test it before switching.  So far I love it except Xorg performance seems rather poor.  Currently using Xfree86 on gentoo resizing of windows, scrolling in firefox etc. is much smoother than using Xorg on ubuntu. Using 'top', I've noticed Xorg uses about 20-30% more of my cpu than Xfree86 does when simply scrolling the same website in firefox, or resizing a gaim chat window.  Any ideas on how I can 
[09:13] <ompaul> Gavrila, seems like the best thing to do
[09:13] <Answer> sedatc: "How to Use the FDisk tool"  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/255867/
[09:13] <claudia> mcphail, and for over 30 ogg files?
[09:13] <claudia> this is going to take ages!
[09:14] <rchv> hola
[09:14] <umberleigh> Answer, venzen: can you point me to any reviews?
[09:14] <bob2> ubotu: redhat crap
[09:14] <ubotu> bob2: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:14] <Answer> rchv: #ubuntu-espanol
[09:14] <bob2> dazjorz: then go to packages.debian.org and find it
[09:14] <bob2> you need a ridiculously old package for that
[09:14] <venzen> umber: not really - just my opinion and experience...
[09:14] <luzbelito> hi to all. when i insert a blank cd / dvd ubuntu opens a window CD/DVD CREATOR. how i deactivate it ????????
[09:14] <Answer> umberleigh:  google "smoothwall reviews"
[09:14] <bob2> complain to your vendor for not updating it
[09:14] <dazjorz> bob2: huh ?
[09:14] <bob2> luzbelito: omg!!111
[09:14] <Answer> umberleigh: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/03/04/1552242&from=rss
[09:15] <bob2> luzbelito: system -> preferences -> removable drives
[09:15] <venzen> luz: exactlky
[09:15] <bob2> dazjorz: whatever binary-only software you're trying to run is ridiculously old
[09:15] <umberleigh> thanks guys
[09:15] <tux-rox> claudia, http://marginalhacks.com/bin/ogg2mp3. You have to do them one at a time most likely.
[09:15] <sorush20> guys I can't remove nero with this command I keep getting.. sudo dpkg -are nero dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove nero which isn't installed, but it is installed.. when I type nero it will rum
[09:15] <sorush20> guys I can't remove nero with this command I keep getting.. sudo dpkg -are nero dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove nero which isn't installed, but it is installed.. when I type nero it will run
[09:15] <luzbelito> bob2, thanks!!!
[09:15] <bob2> sorush20: complain to the nero people; you gave them money, they owe you support
[09:15] <venzen> come again..
[09:15] <transgress> okay i still can't boot into x, i have all the packages i should, i've reconfigured xfonts-base or whatever and xserver-xorg... any more suggestions would be awesome.
[09:16] <Answer> sorush20:  sudo apt-get remove --purge nero
[09:16] <bob2> dazjorz: http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/base/libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[09:16] <sedatc> ompaul, thank you very much ompaul
[09:16] <dazjorz> bob2: Uplink, the game.
[09:16] <transgress> i do have cookies and will hand them out for suggestions
[09:16] <dazjorz> bob2: Thanks a lot for the link
[09:16] <bob2> dazjorz: it's old and broken and requires he above package
[09:16] <ompaul> sedatc, for what? all I did was give you a url :)
[09:17] <mizery> Is there a package management system with Ubuntu?  How would one install a particular package, such as gaim?
[09:17] <Answer> mizery: Synaptic
[09:17] <bob2> mizery: gaim is installed by default
[09:17] <sedatc> Answer, I think I cant use fdisk in Xp anyway I find the answer
[09:17] <Answer> mizery: gaim is installed by default
[09:17] <bob2> mizery: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[09:17] <Kyral> ubotu tell mizery about apt
[09:17] <sedatc> ompaul, that you very much your url :)
[09:17] <ompaul> sedatc, ahh okay :)
[09:18] <Rockett18> !apt
[09:18] <ubotu> apt is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[09:19] <jcmunoz> spanish spoken plis.....
[09:19] <Kyral> #ubuntu-es
[09:19] <Answer> !tell Rockett18 about tell
[09:19] <ompaul> !tell jcmunoz about es
[09:20] <transgress> !tell me about fixed fonts bug and fixing it... for a cookie
[09:20] <Rockett18> heh
[09:20] <transgress> darn
[09:20] <gerarcone> hello, someone knows a simple beginner/guide about Linux online?
[09:20] <transgress> was worth a try
[09:20] <bob2> transgress: have you asked on the ubuntu-user list?
[09:20] <gerarcone> i particular I should learn compiling c++ programs
[09:21] <transgress> umm no i haven't.  but as i'm not in x right now i don't wanna go browsing stuff in links.  i'll try that in a bit when i boot up the lappy.
[09:21] <claudia> ogg2mp3 does not work
[09:21] <transgress> but thanks for the suggestion.  i hadn't thought about doing that.
[09:21] <claudia> "Can't locate String/ShellQuote.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at ./ogg2mp3 line 42."
[09:21] <ompaul> gerarcone, wiki.ubuntu.com can help and compiling stuff search for how to use g++
[09:21] <transgress> now ima go get a shower i guess.  since nothing new has come to light.
[09:21] <mendred> geracone: http://www.groovyweb.uklinux.net/?page_name=linux%20tutorials
[09:22] <gerarcone> ompaul & mendred: thanks!
[09:22] <bob2> transgress: it's a mailing list, you don't need a web broser
[09:22] <ompaul> gerarcone, you can also look at debian tutorials they would be suitable in the main (warning pun near here)
[09:22] <boxerboy> ok i refreashed and the updates worked
[09:23] <mcrandello> bob2, got the tarball now it says that the glib-config script install by glib could not be found
[09:23] <boxerboy> did the new guide surface the net yet?
[09:23] <mcrandello> *installed
[09:23] <p0windah> bob2: he didnt have universe in his repository
[09:23] <mcrandello> I'm not sure which package to go ahead and put on there
[09:23] <ompaul> boxerboy, look for ubuntu faq online
[09:23] <boxerboy> ty
[09:24] <bob2> mcrandello: unsurprising
[09:24] <ompaul> gerarcone, , look for ubuntu faq online
[09:24] <bob2> mcrandello: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:24] <pippin-> hi all
[09:24] <pippin-> I'm here, I dunno which one I have to download exactly, http://www.movn.net/Salem_Sayar/Smo_AL_ArTh.ram
[09:24] <pippin-> ops
[09:24] <pippin-> wrong URL
[09:24] <pippin-> here http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/
[09:25] <ompaul> pippin-, for what? - do you understand the difference between dev and release?
[09:25] <linukso> Hm, still got a major problem with my dual p3. It won't boot with an smp kernel. It complains about /dev/shm, initrd and missing device nodes...
[09:25] <pippin-> ompaul no
[09:25] <pippin-> ompaul actually I wanted to download ubuntu and born it into a CD, and use it to install it into my other computer.
[09:26] <linukso> Has anyone here had a similar problem, I couldn't find anything in the forums...
[09:26] <jasper> anyone knows if a linksys wusb11 v4 works?
[09:26] <pippin-> and how many cds do I need pls? for example in fedora core4, I needed 4 cds
[09:26] <ompaul> pippin-, then I make the suggestion that you make that 5.04
[09:26] <ompaul> pippin-, 1 CD
[09:26] <jasper> ubuntu is 1 disk pippin-
[09:26] <pippin-> thanks
[09:26] <pippin-> ok, 5.10 is latest version
[09:26] <mcrandello> bob2, thx for the guidance it looks like I'm going to be looking up a lot of packages trying to get this thing build
[09:26] <jasper> 5.4.
[09:26] <pippin-> why you recommend me to use an older version?
[09:26] <venzen> linukso: which version of ubuntu?
[09:26] <linukso> venzen: hoary
[09:26] <oracel> what kernel does kubuntu breezy ship with?
[09:26] <Kyral> pippin-, because Breezy is unstable ATM
[09:26] <jasper> I suggest using 5.4, since Breezy is unstable.
[09:27] <jasper> Like he says.
[09:27] <linukso> venzen: same problem on both the 2.6.10 and 2.6.11 kernel
[09:27] <ompaul> pippin-, it is release, the other is development - while  it is nearly ready it is not and a lot of updates will take place over the next month
[09:27] <pippin-> I don't know what is brezy
[09:27] <Kyral> Breezy = Ubuntu 5.10
[09:27] <pippin-> ok, give me the url where I can download 5.4
[09:27] <jasper> anyone knows if a linksys wusb11 v4 works?
[09:27] <ompaul> pippin-, hoary hedgehog = 5.04
[09:27] <pippin-> you guys are awesome
[09:27] <jasper> www.ubuntu.com
[09:27] <Kyral> 5.04
[09:27] <jasper> dude
[09:27] <jasper> -r e a d-
[09:27] <venzen> linukso: you have kernel image AND headers installed?
[09:28] <jasper> I would suggest that ;)
[09:28] <Kyral> jasper, cut the attitude
[09:28] <pippin-> okay
[09:28] <gerarcone> ompaul: sorry, but i can't find anything about compiling whit g++ on the wiki, can you help me?
[09:28] <pippin-> I'm there, http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/
[09:28] <linukso> venzen: yes, but why would I need the headers just to boot?
[09:28] <pippin-> now which file I have to download please?
[09:28] <jasper> Kyral, not to get anything wrong, but hey
[09:28] <ali4728> is there any one running LAMP on ubuntu?  I have a problem connecting to Mysql from remoot comp.
[09:28] <gerarcone> ompaul: ok, i've just find that!
[09:28] <venzen> linukso: what hardware?
[09:29] <jasper> ali4728,  what then?
[09:29] <linukso> ali4728: are you using portmap, if so, edit /etc/hosts.allow
[09:29] <ompaul> gerarcone, no, compiling is for google - compiling is not specific to ubuntu and therefore g++ which is the program you are looking for whould be searched for with faq howto program and stuff
[09:29] <linukso> venzen: dual pentium III, don't remember which motherboard
[09:29] <ompaul> pippin-, what kind of machine have you got?>
[09:29] <mcphail> gerarcone: man gcc
[09:29] <pippin-> ompaul motherboard is intel. 2800
[09:29] <gerarcone> ompaul: my problem in effect is how to use g++
[09:30] <claudia> ok i corrected my stuff with cpan
[09:30] <gerarcone> ompaul: i hope the manual will help me
[09:30] <jasper> hehe
[09:30] <ompaul> gerarcone, correct, and that is for #C++
[09:30] <claudia> and someone told me to use    for f in `find . -name '*.ogg'`; do ogg2mp3 "$f" `basename "$f" .ogg`.mp3; done
[09:30] <ompaul> pippin-, so you want the i386 install and work from there
[09:30] <venzen> linukso: need more info - try reinstalling?
[09:30] <jasper> I have problems with my USB keyboard receiver on a Athlon 64 pc. the mouse clicks random things, but the receiver on a fedora machine works
[09:30] <claudia> to convert all oggs in the directory and its subdirs to mp3
[09:30] <pippin-> ompaul there is a lot of i386
[09:30] <jasper> microcrap receiver
[09:30] <gerarcone> ompaul: my teacher at university told me that compiling with linux should very simple
[09:31] <gerarcone> ompaul: i'm using windows and dev-cpp
[09:31] <claudia> but the resulting mp3s are all in the same directory! how can I make sure that the mp3s are in the same folder as the original ogg?
[09:31] <Yapser> hi
[09:31] <jasper> hi
[09:31] <ali4728> linukso,  Error : 2003 Cant connect to MySQL server on "xx.xx.xx.xx" (115)
[09:31] <venzen> gerar: it is - man gcc
[09:31] <linukso> venzen: tried that, but the single cpu kernel boots, so I think it might be a problem with the hardware, cause the pc I am chatting from is identical, and it works
[09:31] <Yapser> not the firewall that's blocking the port?
[09:31] <linukso> ali4728: check the log on the server.
[09:32] <venzen> ali: what user permissions do you have on remote MySQL
[09:32] <linukso> ali4728: you need a user that has access to the mysql server for remote hosts
[09:32] <gerarcone> venzen: yes man gpp
[09:33] <Yapser> anyway, anyone knows if wusb11 is supported?
[09:33] <Yapser> v4
[09:33] <mcphail> gerarcone: g++ -o myprogram file1.cpp file2.cpp etc
[09:33] <gerarcone> mcphail: "-o" is for?
[09:34] <erUSUL> claudia: you run the comand in the directory where the ogg files reside?
[09:34] <gerarcone> mcphail: what means "-o"
[09:34] <cheesie> !ndiswrapper
[09:34] <ubotu> I guess ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[09:34] <claudia> yes I have a "tunes" folder
[09:34] <mcphail> gerarcone: output an executable called myprogram
[09:34] <claudia> and there i call this command
[09:34] <linukso> venzen: do you know if the system will use only one cpu when using a regular kernel?
[09:34] <jasper> generally it does
[09:35] <p0windah> linukso: in the mysql client type \r mysql then select * from user where user = 'you_user_name';
[09:35] <p0windah> then have a look at whatever privileges are assigned to such user
[09:35] <wastrel> what's a good bittorrent client?
[09:35] <erUSUL> claudia: and where end up the mp3 files?
[09:35] <linukso> wastrel: bittorrent :D
[09:35] <mcphail> wastrel: azureus
[09:35] <claudia> in "tunes"
[09:35] <gerarcone> mcphail: but i presume all these informations will be in man gcc
[09:35] <mdke> who knows where I can find the address bar in nautilus in Breezy?
[09:36] <claudia> but if one ogg is in tunes/acdc, I want the mp3 to be in tunes/acdc too
[09:36] <claudia> and not in tunes
[09:36] <KanRiNiN> hey, after some forum searching, it looks like celestia has a problem with my gcc 4.0.  if I apt get gcc 3.4 and uninstall 4.0, will I be killing any other programs??
[09:36] <mcphail> gerarcone: yes, but it is a fairly large man page!
[09:36] <claudia> for f in `find . -name '*.ogg'`; do ogg2mp3 "$f" `dirname $f`/`basename "$f" .ogg`.mp3
[09:36] <claudia> is this correct?
[09:36] <claudia> would this do?
[09:36] <wastrel> mcphail, is there a packge for that?
[09:36] <martii> hi
[09:36] <wastrel> mcphail, i tried to install it but no love
[09:36] <martii> ok then
[09:36] <martii> after update of x in 5.04 i lost my dualhead setup
[09:36] <mcphail> wastrel: no. download from sourceforge.net after installing java
[09:36] <martii> both screens are the same
[09:37] <martii> and were separated before
[09:37] <KanRiNiN> anybody know if I'll screw myself over by uninstalling gcc 4.0 and installing 3.4?
[09:37] <transgress> KanRiNiN: install both
[09:37] <gerarcone> mcphail: i understand... o_O
[09:37] <wastrel> mcphail, is there a package for the sun java sdk?
[09:37] <transgress> KanRiNiN: aptitude install gcc-3.4
[09:38] <mcphail> !java
[09:38] <ubotu> somebody said java was to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[09:38] <wastrel> thx
[09:38] <transgress> KanRiNiN: what are you trying to build
[09:38] <cheesie> !ubotu
[09:38] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:38] <transgress> ?
[09:38] <mdke> who knows where I can find the address bar in nautilus in Breezy?
[09:38] <KanRiNiN> right, but it looks like celestia by default chooses gcc 4.0.  because I have 3.3 installed to.  how do I tell it to build just from 3.3?
[09:38] <cheesie> !add
[09:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, add is To add an item to me, type "ubotu <keyword> is <description description description>", without the carets
[09:38] <claudia> hello?
[09:38] <erUSUL> claudia: just try ;) i do not know :(
[09:38] <gerarcone> mcphail: maybe i can find something searching with a google-search
[09:38] <pippin-> hmmmmm
[09:38] <cheesie> ubotu hee
[09:38] <ubotu> cheesie: I haven't a clue
[09:38] <transgress> KanRiNiN: when you do either make or ./configure add CC=gcc-3.4
[09:38] <cheesie> ubotu add
[09:39] <cyphase> is there any way to make linux play .mov sound?
[09:39] <transgress> KanRiNiN: so if it has a configure file run "./configure CC=gcc-3.4"
[09:39] <chavo> mdke, hit CTRL-L
[09:39] <mcphail> gerarcone: learning gcc is not a trivial task, but the above command will get you through most "Hello World" situations
[09:39] <gerarcone> mcphail: received
[09:40] <KanRiNiN> thanks transgress.  I'll let you know my progress.
[09:40] <ompaul> pippin-, i386 install
[09:40] <digitize> how many of you guys (with a 5.04 install) have updated sources.list with the breezy badger (5.10) repositories?
[09:40] <transgress> KanRiNiN: anymore questions ask about... i gotta run... but you can PM me and let me know how it goes
[09:40] <Gavrila> for every one with an ati card on a widescreen http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/post_bug.cgi
[09:40] <digitize> i'm semi eager to do that... though i should probably wait until the official release
[09:40] <Gavrila> ehm ops
[09:40] <benjam1n> is there a textfile or something somewhere that i can edit to change the apps under applications, i want to add a category for development tools
[09:41] <Gavrila> for every one with an ati card on a widescreen http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15606
[09:41] <prentice> digitize: i changed my repos w/o problems.
[09:41] <digitize> prentice: i imagine that'd be the case, was just curious, ty for hte feeback
[09:41] <ompaul> gerarcone, if you have cpp one then what you do is this g++ -o myoutputfile mysourcefile.cpp --- note you do not have a .exe extention linux is smart about this - it will know that the file is a binary
[09:41] <digitize> i imagined*
[09:41] <venzen> benjam: apt-get install smeg
[09:41] <Cryptid> PLZ Help!!!I installed Mldonkey jus now on my ubuntu 5.04 but dont know how to run it please help me i cant find it even in the Applications>Internet>   feild what do i do
[09:42] <tokenbad> why is it that ubuntu is running so slow
[09:42] <KanRiNiN> wish I could just apt-get this, but I get the same error.
[09:42] <digitize> Cryptid: look for in the cmd line, using tab and such
[09:42] <tokenbad> and all have open is xchat terminal and file browser
[09:42] <pippin-> I can't survive
[09:42] <digitize> Cryptid: like type mldon <tab>
[09:42] <martii> sudo depmod -a ; sudo modprobe fglrx
[09:42] <martii> gives me
[09:42] <ompaul> gerarcone, -o forces the outputfile name - so -o ompaul creates a ompaul executable
[09:42] <martii> FATAL: Module fglrx not found.
[09:42] <p0windah> Cryptid: dpkg -L mldonkey | grep bin
[09:42] <martii> FATAL: Module fglrx not found.
[09:42] <martii> hmmm
[09:42] <digitize> tokenbad: are you running gnome?
[09:42] <tokenbad> yes
[09:42] <tokenbad> whatever the default with ubuntu is
[09:42] <ompaul> pippin-, what do you mean you can't survive?
[09:43] <prentice> I need help with a dualhead setup. CRT & TV. I have everything working, but want to know if there is a way to keep the gnome-session off of the TV--I want a blank screen on the TV.
[09:43] <ali4728> linukso,  I have a user and privilages but on log file thee is sign of Connection error from remote! do u think it is a Port issue?
[09:43] <digitize> i've found gnome to hog some resources and slow things down, i personally prefer xfce (www.xfce.org)
[09:43] <prentice> xorg.conf : http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2230
[09:43] <tokenbad> is it easy to use that instead of gnome for ubuntu?
[09:43] <gerarcone> ompaul: very nice, so the name of the file is without extension?
[09:43] <digitize> yeah xfce is fairly easy
[09:43] <tokenbad> but I have 1 gig of ram and 2.1 ghz
[09:43] <Cryptid> Digitised thanx it worked but how do i put it in the inter Tab
[09:43] <digitize> you'll probably have to add another repository to sources.list though
[09:43] <pippin-> Do you like apples?
[09:43] <libben> why does java -version tells me 1.4.2 something ... when i did a executable of my jrefile.bin and then ./filename.bin
[09:44] <ompaul> gerarcone, yes - the source we do by convention to indicate that it is a c++ source file
[09:44] <LasseL> how come my ubuntu-desktop package depend on mozilla-firefox-gnome-support and firefox-gnome-support from the mirrormax repos ?
[09:44] <libben> im using breezy
[09:44] <gerarcone> ompaul: what editor is best to write .cpp files?
[09:44] <digitize> Cryptid: hrmmm, you'll have to look through the gnome menu setup, i'm not too sure myself
[09:44] <pippin-> libben
[09:44] <ompaul> gerarcone, there are many - I like nedit and there more who don't :)
[09:44] <libben> pippin-:
[09:44] <ompaul> gerarcone, there are many many editors
[09:45] <mcphail> gerarcone: this will start a war... (Hint: don't ask about editors on linux channels!)
[09:45] <p0windah> :)
[09:45] <ompaul> !start editor war
[09:45] <ubotu> ompaul: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:45] <libben> vIm
[09:45] <tokenbad> digitize, shouldn't 1 gig of ram and 2.1 ghz be more than enough to run gnome?
[09:45] <Seveas> !start an editor war
[09:45] <ubotu> gedit is better than emacs
[09:45] <digitize> gerarcone: kate, gedit, nedit, mousepad, etc...
[09:45] <pippin-> I'm lagging libben
[09:45] <digitize> tokenbad: i have about the same setup, and it would get laggy from time to time
[09:45] <mcphail> lol
[09:45] <tokenbad> this is all the time
[09:45] <ompaul> Seveas, thanks
[09:45] <tokenbad> and have nothing running but what I said before
[09:45] <libben> k, u have a answer for my problems?
[09:45] <pippin-> libben: :(
[09:45] <Cryptid> digitize, check out this error what do i do mlgui
[09:45] <Cryptid> No /home/melchey/.mldonkey/installer.ini found
[09:45] <Cryptid> Gettext.set_strings_file: no message file found. Creating one
[09:45] <Cryptid> Resolving [ubuntu]  ...done
[09:45] <Cryptid> Using threads
[09:45] <Cryptid> Registered protocol IRC
[09:45] <digitize> tokenbad: try out xfce :)
[09:45] <tokenbad> and if run other stuff...slows down so bad it locks up
[09:46] <Cryptid> No /home/melchey/.mldonkey/mldonkey_im.ini found
[09:46] <tokenbad> ok
[09:46] <Cryptid> No /home/melchey/.mldonkey/newgui_messages.ini found
[09:46] <pippin-> libben: I guess so
[09:46] <Cryptid> (mlgui:7912): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[09:46] <Cryptid> (mlgui:7912): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[09:46] <ompaul> kill Cryptid
[09:46] <Cryptid> Fatal error: exception Gpointer.Null
[09:46] <tokenbad> how do you recomend me getting it?
[09:46] <p0windah> try reducing swappiness can be helpful for desktop usage
[09:46] <digitize> tokenbad: one second
[09:46] <p0windah> oh man, he is surely gonna get warned :)
[09:46] <ompaul>  Cryptid  DO not paste in here
[09:46] <neft> i get this msg now when i reboot: I cannot start the X server. It is likely that it is not set up correctly
[09:46] <ompaul>  Cryptid use paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:46] <neft> how do fix this?
[09:46] <Cryptid> ompaul, ok
[09:47] <pippin-> neft can you write my nick please?
[09:47] <claudia> ok i give up
[09:47] <claudia> this is too hard
[09:47] <tokenbad> reducing swappiness?
[09:47] <tokenbad> what is that?
[09:47] <claudia> it seems to be absolutely impossible
[09:47] <tokenbad> couldn't I go to KDE?
[09:48] <digitize> tokenbad: you can try that as well
[09:48] <venzen> claudia: try xmms..
[09:48] <tokenbad> without having to download and install kubuntu?
[09:48] <neft> anyone know how to manually start X server?
[09:48] <pippin-> go to fluxbox
[09:48] <claudia> venzen ?!
[09:48] <claudia> xmms can convert?
[09:48] <Cryptid> Digitised, what do i do u've seen the problem rite?
[09:48] <claudia> i thought this is only a player
[09:48] <oracel> hey guys guess what I downloaded 5.04 instead of 5.10 :rolleyes:
[09:48] <gerarcone> ompaul & co. : I have gedit, i'll start from it
[09:48] <oracel> I have no idea how I managed to do that
[09:48] <digitize> Cryptid: well, if you paste it on a webpage i can take a look
[09:48] <prentice> (2nd and last try) I need help with a dualhead setup. CRT & TV. I have everything working, but want to know if there is a way to keep the gnome-session off of the TV--I want a blank screen on the TV.
[09:48] <Cryptid> digitize, ok i will do it
[09:48] <tokenbad> how do I reduce swappiness?
[09:48] <pippin-> oracel and how long does it take for you to download the 5.04 587M ?
[09:48] <digitize> tokenbad: if you add: deb http://www.os-works.com/debian testing main to your /etc/apt/sources.list file, then type apt-get update
[09:48] <p0windah> tokenbad: cat /proc/sys/vm/swapiness
[09:49] <lundner> @oracel maybe you should change the repositories to breezy ...?! :-)
[09:49] <venzen> claudia: no I mean, to play ogg! else persevere for longer than 30 minutes on the challenge of converting...
[09:49] <digitize> tokenbad: you can then try apt-get install xfce4
[09:49] <KanRiNiN> hey.  I ran the ./configure cc=gcc 3.3 like transgression said.  it worked fine until it said zlib not found, but I have the runtime installed.
[09:49] <tokenbad> thanks digitize
[09:49] <digitize> tokenbad: then log out of gnome, and at gdm you can select xfce
[09:49] <KanRiNiN> should I install the dev also?  or the uncompressin lib?
[09:49] <claudia> venzen, wrong answer
[09:49] <p0windah> tokenbad: I use 10 and it improves things for me
[09:49] <claudia> oggs on pc no problem
[09:49] <oracel> pippin-, half an hour or so
[09:49] <oracel> and 3.2mbit/sec
[09:49] <oracel> at
[09:50] <gerarcone> ok guys, thank you very much for the help and goodbye!
[09:50] <tokenbad> says no file
[09:50] <pippin-> oracel okay it takes here for me a 12 hours+ to download it, so you should feel happy
[09:50] <tokenbad> when type in that cat stuff for swapiness
[09:50] <p0windah> tokenbad: cat /proc/sys/vm/swapiness
[09:50] <oracel> pippin-, I do :)
[09:50] <p0windah> with two P's, rather
[09:50] <Cryptid> digitize, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2231 check this out
[09:50] <pippin-> oracel good for you
[09:50] <p0windah> mybad
[09:50] <pippin-> oracel are you an op here?
[09:50] <oracel> here, have some bandwidth! /me throws
[09:50] <oracel> nope
[09:50] <pippin-> oracel: okay
[09:50] <tokenbad> its set to 60
[09:50] <martii> is xorg flgrx driver for both kernels 386 and 686 >
[09:50] <ratl3> hi, is there any way you can set up evolution to use a proxy?
[09:50] <martii> ?
[09:50] <oracel> actually I joined just roughly one and a half downloads ago
[09:50] <oracel> :)
[09:51] <p0windah> move it down to 30, do normal desktopish things and see whats its like
[09:51] <p0windah> I use 10 and have no problems, just improved performance
[09:51] <digitize> Cryptid: hrmmm, i've no clue
[09:51] <KanRiNiN> any ideas?
[09:51] <pippin-> I have no idea at all.
[09:51] <ratl3> can you set a proxy in evolution?
[09:52] <keenan> I'm running Breezy, and it takes a really long time to start gnome, the splash screen gets stuck at "Metacity Window Manager" for like 5 minutes
[09:52] <tokenbad> but its not just my desktop
[09:52] <tokenbad> its my mouse and everything freezing
[09:52] <keenan> the weird part is that top shows the CPU is completely idle
[09:52] <venzen> people I think tokenbad's problem is memory related - like hw memory modules
[09:53] <jasper> well, don't use breezy then
[09:53] <venzen> tokenbad: check your bios setup
[09:53] <reiki_work> isn't Breezy still in debug mode?
[09:53] <p0windah> sorry, didnt know you machine was locking
[09:53] <delire> tokenbad: i would look at a memory test to trawl that RAM block by block.
[09:53] <tripp> hello
[09:54] <venzen> hehe
[09:54] <tripp> hey everyone, im having some trouble getting my 3d to work
[09:54] <delire> reiki_work: hmm tell me about it.
[09:54] <Yapser> ati / nvidia / matrox?
[09:54] <Sonny_Wertzik> does somebody know a place with a good collection of.wav sound effects or mp3 sound effects?
[09:54] <tripp> ati
[09:55] <reiki_work> delire: 53 next Tuesday... you got me beat?
[09:55] <Yapser> k, wich card?
[09:55] <Yapser> it's pretty easy
[09:55] <tripp> i tried following howto on forums
[09:55] <p0windah> Sonny_Wertzik: definately not #ubuntu
[09:55] <tripp> gigabye 9250 pro
[09:55] <delire> Sonny_Wertzik: http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/index.php
[09:55] <tripp> nothing fancy
[09:55] <Yapser> since i have an ati card t0o :)
[09:55] <deFrysk> Sonny_Wertzik, use google
[09:55] <Sonny_Wertzik> delire, thx
[09:55] <venzen> yeh
[09:55] <tripp> i did the install stuff, but it now is worse than before
[09:56] <Sonny_Wertzik> delire, i tried google but there are like a million phony ad site and crap
[09:56] <p0windah> tripp: you've just joined an extremely large and unhappy club
[09:56] <delire> Sonny_Wertzik: this is a good site as all the sounds are licensed for re-use remixing.
[09:56] <ubuntu> hello
[09:56] <Yapser> isn't that bad p0windah
[09:56] <p0windah> OMG
[09:56] <p0windah> my distro is talking to me?!
[09:56] <Yapser> yes.
[09:56] <ompaul> p0windah, that is a live CD
[09:56] <Yapser> linux usually talks to you in the first console ;)
[09:57] <Sonny_Wertzik> delire, it looks good so far
[09:57] <Whistler> Sorry for offtopic but where can i chat about basketball?
[09:57] <Yapser> ><
[09:57] <p0windah> call a friend on the phone ?
[09:57] <Yapser> ./j basketball
[09:57] <Yapser> or something like that ><
[09:57] <tripp> okay
[09:57] <test34> by the time I install software updates, there is 15 more available
[09:58] <tripp> well just one q then, how do i start and stop xorg/gnome whatever when i make changes without rebooting to test etc..
[09:58] <Sonny_Wertzik> heh ..."wierd male scream pack hehehe
[09:58] <ompaul> Whistler, I guess you need to look to google for that one, freenode is more about open source software
[09:58] <Yapser> * Now talking in #basketball
[09:58] <Yapser> * niven.freenode.net sets mode: +ns
[09:58] <Yapser> * Retrieving #basketball modes...
[09:58] <Yapser> * Yapser sets mode: +l 1337
[09:58] <Yapser> * Whistler has joined #basketball
[09:58] <Yapser> * Whistler has left #basketball ("Virca 1.1.20")
[09:58] <Yapser> rofl
[09:58] <delire> tripp: ctrl-alt-backspace
[09:58] <tokenbad> ok could you tell me what to add to my list again to get the other gui instead of knome?
[09:58] <ompaul> Yapser, NO PASTING
[09:58] <tokenbad> gnome even
[09:58] <Cryptid> Please List out P2P applications for ubuntu Except for mldonkey nicotine gtk-gnutell direct connect limewire and torrent client it seems like i listed out pretty much every thing but i case i missed out ne thing let me know
[09:58] <tripp> thanks
[09:59] <Yapser> ompaul, k
[09:59] <delire> tripp: np.. you trying to get your ATI card running the proprietary drivers?
[09:59] <mdke> chavo, thanks, sorry for late response
[09:59] <mdke> chavo, how come that isn't available from the menu, do you know?
[09:59] <tokenbad> digitize, could you give me the deb site and apt-get command again for the gui?
[09:59] <chavo> mdke, no idea
[10:00] <mdke> chavo, it sucks :( I want my address bar
[10:00] <test34> How to enable Ctrl+Alt+Del to open System Monitor in GNOME with ubuntu 5.10 ? the way the ubuntu guide v5.04 uses doesn't work..
[10:00] <p0windah> Cryptid: surely theres now, check freshmeat
[10:00] <chavo> mdke, I like the breadcrumb, and the address bar
[10:00] <mdke> chavo, breadcrumb?
[10:01] <tokenbad> digitize?
[10:01] <chavo> the buttons that list the directories
[10:01] <mdke> chavo, you like both views you mean?
[10:01] <chavo> yeah, but I don't use nautilus normally. I use konqueror/ KDE
[10:02] <GoClick> !horay-extras
[10:02] <ubotu> GoClick: Are you on ritalin?
[10:02] <mdke> chavo, i like both too, but I would have liked to know how to switch from the menu, rather than having to come in here
[10:02] <tokenbad> or how can I convert to using kde instead of gnome without installing kubuntu?
[10:02] <GoClick> Did I spell it wrong?
[10:02] <Yapser> apt-get install kde? :P
[10:02] <martii> ok
[10:02] <mdke> GoClick, it is hoary
[10:02] <GoClick> Ah
[10:02] <martii> it seems I missed restricted modules package
[10:02] <tokenbad> Yapser, think there was something else someone said to do
[10:02] <chavo> gnome likes to take features away for the sake of simplicity
[10:02] <GoClick> !hoary-extras
[10:02] <ubotu> hoary-extras is, like, totally, see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[10:02] <tokenbad> if I remember that
[10:02] <chavo> I think they over do it sometimes
[10:03] <mdke> chavo, i don't like this one
[10:03] <Yapser> tokenbad -> ?
[10:03] <gigaclon> tokenbad, install kubuntu-desktop
[10:03] <tokenbad> ahhh
[10:03] <tokenbad> thats it
[10:03] <Yapser> damned, that was the one :)
[10:03] <tokenbad> I thought there was more to it
[10:03] <Yapser> I guess gnome is lighter weight?
[10:04] <delire> Yapser: no, not really
[10:04] <Yapser> I want a apt-gettable light GUI for my notebook
[10:04] <p0windah> twm
[10:04] <delire> Yapser: blackbox, openbox, xfce
[10:04] <chavo> Yapser, try xfce or one of the *boxes
[10:04] <p0windah> fvwm95 :)
[10:04] <Yapser> will try xfce :)
[10:04] <chavo> xfce is nice
[10:04] <ompaul> Yasper xvwm
[10:04] <delire> wmii <-- the king of 0-WIMP wm's
[10:04] <jasper> and here on the notebook (i'm Yapser :))
[10:04] <maximaus> $ sudo apt-get xfce4-desktop is the metapackage I believe.
[10:05] <oracel> I like xfce
[10:05] <oracel> it feels just like kde
[10:05] <chavo> It's a little lumper than KDE
[10:05] <delire> kde 'light' is worth looking at. i don't have the link handy.
[10:06] <chavo> lumpier
[10:06] <Sonny_Wertzik> delire, you know any other sound site...i cant use tis 1...it uses flash
[10:06] <delire> Sonny_Wertzik: you don't have flash support in the browser?
[10:06] <maximaus> the only thing sucky about xfce is xffm, imho, I use Rox instead.
[10:06] <Sonny_Wertzik> no 64 bit version of flash yet
[10:06] <Yapser> compile yourself?
[10:06] <Yapser> or can't do?
[10:07] <delire> Sonny_Wertzik: ahah.. i'll think of one after dinner perhaps.
[10:07] <Sonny_Wertzik> okie
[10:07] <char1iecha1k> i get a kernel panic whilst trying to install to a clean system what can i do
[10:07] <ompaul> Yapser,  sudo apt-get install icewm-lite
[10:07] <anethema> hey ive got a problem changing resolutions
[10:07] <dzik_24> Haloo
[10:07] <p0windah> I'd like to know whats wrong with fvwm95
[10:07] <anethema> when i go to the res changer thng, it says some RandR isnt working
[10:07] <jasper> couldn't find package
[10:07] <p0windah> I know for a fact that all real hackers use fvwm95
[10:07] <anethema> so i cant change on the fly
[10:07] <chavo> p0windah, it's 2005
[10:07] <jasper> need to unlock universe?
[10:07] <anethema> can i make it work ?
[10:08] <delire_eat> p0windah very little
[10:08] <chavo> we need -> fvwm05
[10:08] <dzik_24> How to install Ubuntu with fluxbox only WITHOUT Gnome
[10:08] <tokenbad> ok have the other on now
[10:08] <Yapser> 'server' install?
[10:08] <tokenbad> lets see if slow down any
[10:08] <Sonny_Wertzik> does somebody know a place with a good collection of.wav sound effects or mp3 sound effects?[10:08] <Yapser> installs it without any gui
[10:08] <anethema> can anyone help?
[10:08] <chavo> Sonny_Wertzik, http://google.com
[10:08] <Yapser> anethema -> with?
[10:08] <dzik_24> server and then apt-get fluxbox??
[10:09] <p0windah> anyone had luck with seveas repository in the last hour or so ?
[10:09] <Cr4sh> hey guyz how to I share a printer on LAn I run UBuntu which the printer is connected to. and the wireless router and there is alatop downstrais how do i share the printer withteh windows machine the laptop..???
[10:09] <anethema> i asked just up there, but when i try to change resolutions, it says some RandR thing doesnt work
[10:09] <anethema> so i cant change res's
[10:09] <Sonny_Wertzik> chavo, i tried google but there are like a million phony ad site and crap
[10:09] <jasper> @Cr4sh cups
[10:09] <chavo> true
[10:09] <Cr4sh> more detailes please I'm new to this???
[10:09] <anethema> any idea yasper?
[10:09] <chavo> Sonny_Wertzik, what kind of sound effects?
[10:09] <jasper> usually cups does the trick, but I don't know the details of it
[10:10] <Sonny_Wertzik> chavo, event sounds
[10:10] <chavo> Sonny_Wertzik, there are some at http://kde-look.org not a lot, but it's a start
[10:10] <Cr4sh> I'm the one where the printer is connected to.. how do I make the widnows laptop detect it??
[10:10] <Sonny_Wertzik> chavo, thank you
[10:10] <dzik_24> what is installing in "server" option
[10:10] <jasper> without Gnome
[10:11] <anethema> no one has any idea about RandR and changing resoutions in ubuntu ?
[10:11] <jasper> or KDE (or whatever kind of ubuntu you have)
[10:11] <dzik_24> so OOfice is installing
[10:11] <jasper> hrm, sucks on lowend machinea
[10:11] <jasper> abiword pwn
[10:11] <Cr4sh> i have gnome
[10:12] <char1iecha1k> hello, i am having trouble trying to install, i think it is hard disk related error message is kernel panic - not syncing no init found try passing init= option to kernel. only ibelieve this problem is caused by changing hardware, but i am trying to boot/install???
[10:12] <p0windah> increase the memory OOO uses improves its performance dramatically
[10:12] <Yapser> can you boot in safe mode char1iecha1k?
[10:12] <char1iecha1k> hda is blank
[10:12] <Yapser> yeah, but not worth it on a cel 366 notebook
[10:12] <anethema> yapser no idea about my problem?
[10:12] <p0windah> I think by default it tried to get along with 8MB
[10:12] <p0windah> tries, rather
[10:12] <char1iecha1k> Yapser hda is blank
[10:13] <Yapser> anethema around changing your screen res?
[10:13] <dzik_24> Is it worth to install 5.10 Preview now
[10:13] <Yapser> char1iecha1k what did you change?
[10:13] <anethema> yes
[10:13] <Kyral> I really can't wait until I get a FreeNX server on this thing and can get offa VNC
[10:13] <JWoods> Hi all.  I just installed Breezy Beaver and I'm having a problem with the panel at the bottom of the screen.
[10:13] <[R] > hi, i'd like to play a swf local file... which player can do it ? :)
[10:13] <anethema> if i go in prefs to the screen res thing..i get this message:
[10:13] <anethema> The X Server does not support the XRandR extension.  Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available.
[10:13] <JWoods> None of my applications are showing up in the panel.
[10:13] <Yapser> hmm damn
[10:13] <p0windah> JWoods: reboot
[10:13] <Kyral> or
[10:13] <Yapser> maybe something like ctrl-alt and + on the left?
[10:13] <Kyral> killall gnome-panel
[10:13] <ompaul> dzik_24, if you can tell the difference between dev and release then yes, if you do not understand then I would suggest not
[10:13] <Yapser> dunno what the real command is
[10:13] <Yapser> changes your res OTF
[10:14] <char1iecha1k> Yapser nothing thats the prob, i deleted all partions and created a swap partitio and a normal partition
[10:14] <anethema> hm seems to work
[10:14] <anethema> wonder why that app wont do it
[10:14] <ben42> anethema: do you use the fglrx-driver?
[10:14] <Yapser> don't know either
[10:14] <char1iecha1k> Yapser then tried to install from cd and i get this eror
[10:14] <anethema> ben yes\
[10:14] <anethema> and ctrl-alt-+ puts me in virtual desktop mode, doh
[10:14] <Yapser> edit your x.org file to match your monitor tough
[10:15] <ompaul> Yapser, that works where several resolutions are available :)
[10:15] <Yapser> ompaul -> know that ;)
[10:15] <ben42> afaik then it is not possibel to change your resolution this way
[10:15] <anethema> ben42, does the fglrx driver break RandR?
[10:15] <anethema> so ive got to use ctrl-alt-+ then ben ?
[10:15] <JWoods> one other note about my panel problem... I imported my home directory from my other machine that was running Warty Warthog.  Would that have any effect on my current panel settings?
[10:15] <p0windah> JWoods: did you just upgrade to breezy ?
[10:15] <Yapser> apt-get install fluxbox doesn't really give the thing I want it to do
[10:16] <Yapser> or launching the machine in fluxbox doesn't work tough
[10:16] <ompaul> JWoods, not a good idea
[10:16] <JWoods> No, its a fresh install on a new machine.  I tar-ed up my home dir from another machine and ftp-ed it over and untar-ed it.
[10:16] <ben42> anethema i do not know what happens exacty, but it seems not to work together and you have to change the resolution in the x.org - file and restart gdm
[10:16] <peloverde> so i'm trying to port a package from sid to breezy, is there a howto or anything like that?
[10:16] <ompaul> JWoods, why did you do warty?
[10:16] <anethema> yeah kind of figured
[10:16] <anethema> ctrl-alt-+ works for on the fly changes luckily
[10:16] <p0windah> JWoods: who owns the files in /home/user/ now ?
[10:16] <anethema> but it keeps the same desktop size
[10:17] <anethema> so virtual desktop kicks in
[10:17] <JWoods> warty was the latest release when I installed on my old machine.  Never upgraded to hedgehog or beaver.
[10:17] <Yapser> it booted now
[10:17] <Yapser> and it is .. light. :P
[10:17] <JWoods> root owns the tarball, but I own my home directory and all the files/dirs underneath.
[10:18] <char1iecha1k> Yapser before it says kernel panic it says, ramdisk compressed image found then next line crc error
[10:18] <ben42> anethema http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/201
[10:18] <Yapser> crc error
[10:18] <p0windah> double check permissions and software versions
[10:18] <Yapser> seems like dead iso image
[10:18] <ben42> anethema someone wrote there that it works together
[10:18] <p0windah> and if it all matches, check again :)
[10:18] <JWoods> p0windah: how do I check software versions?
[10:19] <wastrel> we hates it
[10:19] <p0windah> it'd be faster to tar up what you need and move that across
[10:19] <char1iecha1k> Yapser, i have tried about 5 different versions of linux (i would like to get ubuntu going) and they are all doing this
[10:19] <Yapser> hrm, how do you download?
[10:19] <Yapser> for instance, try a torrented file, since they all do this
[10:19] <gigaclon> is there a way to change from the backports ver of Firefox to the ubuntu official Firefox
[10:19] <anethema> weird ben42
[10:19] <Yapser> torrent = failure checking
[10:20] <anethema> it says on that page that it works if it says in your logfile that its there and initialized
[10:20] <anethema> and in my xorg log file it says that
[10:20] <char1iecha1k> Yapser, me? i know this is a working disk cos i insalled another system the other day on it
[10:20] <JWoods> p0windah: maybe I'll do that.  what specific dirs do I *not* need?
[10:20] <Yapser> hrm k, damn
[10:20] <ben42> anethema sorry, i do not unterstand it, either, i ended up with changing the xorg.conf ...
[10:20] <JWoods> or what dirs should I not overwrite?
[10:20] <Yapser> but since it's giving a crc error.. it's the source of the data
[10:21] <Yapser> so I would try another cd drive
[10:21] <anethema> (==) RandR enabled
[10:21] <anethema> (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR
[10:21] <anethema> thats in my Xorg log
[10:21] <morbidi> hello
[10:21] <morbidi> I forgot my password
[10:21] <char1iecha1k> Yapser now that is interesting you shoou;d say that
[10:21] <morbidi> what do I do ?
[10:21] <Krneki> hay now i have apache php and mysql original by ubuntu, i copy like user in to htdocs directory, directory forum, and apache seem to not see the directory, it say that there is no such a directory, directory forum has same attributs like all other, why is this happening
[10:21] <ben42> anethema sounds good
[10:21] <morbidi> should I boot the live CD ?
[10:21] <Yapser> lol char1iecha1k?
[10:21] <char1iecha1k> Yapser its a friends laptop - sony stear clear
[10:21] <Yapser> rofl
[10:22] <p0windah> JWoods: well I would simply copy the files you have downloaded or specifically authored(openoffice, images)
[10:22] <boxerboy> i installed the updates now none of my root items will open example like updater or package manager
[10:22] <test34> where should I put new codecs for totem ?
[10:22] <vrln> is there an eta for breezy rc1?
[10:22] <char1iecha1k> Yapser either it is a dodgy cd reader or very incompatible hardware
[10:22] <boxerboy> it wont even prompt me
[10:22] <anethema> yeah
[10:22] <Yapser> guess so
[10:22] <anethema> still wont change tho
[10:22] <anethema> ah well
[10:22] <anethema> hehe
[10:22] <anethema> thanks for your help
[10:22] <boxerboy> i reset root password and rebooted still no luck
[10:22] <Yapser> but I guess it does give a CRC error for a reason
[10:22] <p0windah> JWoods: unless you have some bookmarks you *must* retain, then copying all the .xxx settings across is going to cause grief
[10:22] <Yapser> @ morbidi guess you can't get your pass back since it is md5summed
[10:23] <char1iecha1k> Yapser, it installs winblows alright
[10:23] <Yapser> but windows sucks ;)
[10:23] <char1iecha1k> Yapser winslows!
[10:23] <test34> in /usr/local/lib ?
[10:23] <ben42> Yapser ;)
[10:23] <JWoods> p0windah: can I just reinstall the panel using the package manager?
[10:23] <JWoods> will that fix things or will there be other stuff that's messed up?
[10:24] <p0windah> JWoods: well if your new machine is working, and its apps are all working. simply adding a openoffice, movie, mp3 and images into your home directory wont cause any problems
[10:24] <morbidi> Yapser: but I have to reinstall it ?
[10:24] <morbidi> no way
[10:25] <Yapser> morbidi guess so
[10:25] <morbidi> could I do a chroot ?
[10:25] <Yapser> don't know, really
[10:25] <Yapser> you can try booting in knoppix to rescue files?
[10:25] <morbidi> Yapser: that's just pretty dumb to reinstall
[10:25] <p0windah> JWoods: copy configuration files from one computer to another, where the software installed and its versions are not exactly the same is bound to have problems
[10:25] <midfreak> hola
[10:25] <morbidi> midfreak: ol
[10:26] <Krneki> hay now i have apache php and mysql original by ubuntu, i copy like user in to htdocs directory, directory forum, and apache seem to not see the directory, it say that there is no such a directory, directory forum has same attributs like all other, why is this happening
[10:26] <jfarrell> well in short my apt-get is broken
[10:26] <JWoods> p0windah: yeah, I did include all the .* dirs from my home directory.  I haven't run into any problems other than the panel (yet).  I'm thinking that reinstalling the panel should fix things.  No?
[10:26] <jfarrell> i think my sources are out of date
[10:26] <Yapser> apt-get update
[10:26] <jfarrell> any ideas on how to fix it
[10:26] <test34> is there a firefox 1.5 package ?
[10:26] <Yapser> apt-get update
[10:26] <obscurite> Been reading the ubuntu laptop wiki pages
[10:26] <jfarrell> Yapser, everything just times out
[10:26] <midfreak> hola
[10:26] <Yapser> seems a problem with your dns or internet connection then ;)
[10:27] <jfarrell> Yapser, sorry iw as thinking of upgrade keyword
[10:27] <p0windah> does ubuntu install pdns by default ?
[10:27] <Yapser> hehe
[10:27] <Yapser> apt-get
[10:27] <Yapser> just the command
[10:27] <agent_> anyone know how to list all installed packages?
[10:27] <Yapser> and all commands will be showed wich you can issue
[10:27] <boxerboy> ls command i think
[10:27] <p0windah> agent_: dplg -l | less
[10:27] <obscurite> Maybe a lapp ubuntu user can answer this - if you use an external monitor sometimes, when you plug in the monitor, does it switch modes automatically, or do you need to restart x manually? sorry, i've always been a server side linux person, not desktop so much
[10:27] <koin> hi, i'm new to linux but i should emulate windows to use photoshop. how can i do?
[10:27] <obscurite> s/lapp/lappy
[10:27] <Yapser> koin
[10:28] <Yapser> photoshop -> the gimp
[10:28] <dwerf> BreezyUpgradeNotes
[10:28] <dwerf> Note: This is a work in progress and may break your system!!!
[10:28] <dwerf>  What is meant with 'breaking'?
[10:28] <Yapser> killing?
[10:28] <ompaul> agent_, that might be dpkg -l | less
[10:28] <agent_> koin, i would suggest trying the gimp (also to get used to it)... if you really need photoshop... try wine
[10:28] <benjam1n> can someone tell me how i change the owner of a directory and all its subdirs and files
[10:28] <agent_> ompaul, aye! thanks!
[10:28] <koin> Yapser: I don't like the gimp... you should know that are some years I use photoshop
[10:28] <dwerf> but not damaging hardware - i hope?
[10:28] <obscurite> noone uses a laptop w/ external display?
[10:29] <ai-2> hi i have problems with installing VLC videolan can someone help me, iam new to ubuntu and apt-get
[10:29] <Necron69> benjamin: chown -R <dir>
[10:29] <Yapser> @ai-2
[10:29] <agent_> ompaul, i thought -l only worked *with* a package... didnt know you could just have it by itself :)
[10:29] <Yapser> they use a own source for their player
[10:29] <Yapser> have you added that in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[10:29] <test34> where should I put video codecs (for totem) ?
[10:29] <koin> agent: how can i install this wine?
[10:29] <ompaul> agent_, well blame the author not me :-)
[10:29] <venzen> benjamin: chown -R username.groupname <dir>
[10:29] <contador> se me paro el amule
[10:29] <agent_> ompaul, ;)
[10:29] <erUSUL> benjam1n: chown -R user.group dir/ you should RTFM man chown
[10:30] <contador> you speaken spanish
[10:30] <venzen> yep
[10:30] <contador> nadiaauq
[10:30] <annex> I have installed Ubuntu 5.04 on a partition to test it before switching.  So far I love it except Xorg performance seems rather poor.  Currently using Xfree86 on gentoo resizing of windows, scrolling in firefox etc. is much smoother than using Xorg on ubuntu. Using 'top', I've noticed Xorg uses about 20-30% more of my cpu than Xfree86 does when simply scrolling the same website in firefox, or resizing a gaim chat window.  Any ideas on how I can 
[10:30] <dwerf> is breezy dangerous to install?
[10:30] <contador> si
[10:30] <venzen> welcome or try #ubuntu-es
[10:30] <p0windah> annex: stop using vesa ?
[10:30] <ai-2> hello, anyone who can explain how i can install vlc? there is no link for ubuntu, but since its almost as debian i think i click on debian linux. but how do i install it with apt-get? please
[10:31] <delire_eat> koin: http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241
[10:31] <contador> mi amule no se conecta
[10:31] <Yapser> dwerf -> you can try, but you may break the distro
[10:31] <annex> p0windah: how can I tell is it's using vesa?
[10:31] <Yapser> @ai-2 read
[10:31] <contador> como hago eso
[10:31] <Yapser> they suggest adding their apt-get source in the list
[10:31] <boxerboy> dwerf: if ur gonna do it download it and burn it
[10:31] <erUSUL> contador: try in #ubuntu-es
[10:31] <p0windah> 30% cpu to scroll a window is clearly not using any acceleration
[10:31] <erUSUL> contador: intental en #ubuntu-es
[10:31] <agent_> ompaul, but doesnt dpkg -l list *all* packages available (not all installed)?
[10:31] <dwerf> boxerboy > i just started an online install
[10:32] <wastrel> "hella"
[10:32] <Yapser> @ p0windah agreed
[10:32] <Cryptid> how do i install files that have .tar.bz extensions
[10:32] <wastrel> now what's vlc?
[10:32] <dwerf> for the best then
[10:32] <p0windah> hang on, you said 20-30% more,.. so god knows what the total is
[10:32] <boxerboy> its safer that way
[10:32] <Yapser> VLC media player -> supporting divx etc codecs
[10:32] <annex> p0windah: like 50-80%
[10:32] <koin> delire_eat: what is that? a page about gimp?
[10:32] <annex> total
[10:32] <p0windah> heh
[10:32] <venzen> contador: your mouse?
[10:32] <p0windah> yeah that would suck :)
[10:32] <boxerboy> latest breezy updates screwed my root up somehow
[10:32] <boxerboy> <<not happy at all about that
[10:32] <ai-2> videolan
[10:32] <delire_eat> koin: it's a photoshop look-alike interface for the gimp, if you really must have the same look/UI as photoshop.
[10:33] <annex> p0windah: one of my monitors is on a nvidia Geforce2 GTS, the other on an old ATI pci card
[10:33] <Cryptid> Help PLZ !!!!!!!!!!!!how do i install files that have .tar.bz extensions
[10:33] <p0windah> there are excellent guides for both nvidia and ati cards, I think ubuntuguide.org ?
[10:33] <Yapser> Cryptid that's basic
[10:33] <ben42> Cryptid tar -xvjf <file>
[10:33] <p0windah> Cryptid: file roller ?
[10:34] <Yapser> p0windah that's the most basic one aviable :D
[10:34] <Cryptid> Yapser, i am new to Linux i dont know anything
[10:34] <boxerboy> thats the site but i hear those are bad words here
[10:34] <annex> p0windah: any idea what would cause the slowdown in Xorg compared to Xfree though?
[10:34] <erUSUL> Cryptid: tar xvjf  <file>.tar.bz then enter the directory and read INSTALL or README
[10:34] <venzen> Crypt: right click > file roller
[10:34] <delire_eat> Cryptid: they are archives, not installers.
[10:34] <p0windah> annex: xfree is not using vesa, xorg is
[10:34] <koin> delire_eat: thanks, but is difficult that it will be the same thing
[10:34] <annex> p0windah: what is vesa?
[10:34] <ben42> Cryptid  tar -xvjf is only for unpacking
[10:34] <elzbal> Hey all - I'm an old hand at Unix/Linux, doing my first Ubuntu install (for my wife). What's the recommended/minimum size of a /boot partition for Ubuntu?
[10:34] <Cryptid> ben42 How to install after unpacking
[10:35] <p0windah> its the bare minimum, shoudl work on anything driver that is completely hardware agnostic
[10:35] <koin> delire_eat: consider that now i'm using photoshop cs2
[10:35] <delire_eat> koin: sure ok
[10:35] <char1iecha1k> Yapser i have tried ubuntu suse fedora debian slackware and they all give similar errors, does that sound like it is a dodgy cdreader? i have my doubts because winslows works fine /:
[10:35] <p0windah> it ensures you see something, but also that it completely blows
[10:35] <Yapser> could be tough
[10:35] <delire_eat> koin: i'm not a fan of photoshop, so perhaps the wrong guy to talk to.
[10:35] <venzen> elzbal : 100Mb should be fine
[10:35] <elzbal> Thanks
[10:35] <ben42> Cryptid it depends ... ;) is there a  README or INSTALL ? usually these are textfiles and contains the necessary intructions
[10:36] <p0windah> annex: check out the ubuntuguide website, its got great tutorials for what you're experiencing
[10:36] <venzen> elzbal: you could go without.. whats the partition table look like
[10:36] <tell> If I'm running off the live CD is my OSX hard drive vulnerable to attacks?
[10:36] <Yapser> tell nope
[10:36] <delire_eat> Cryptid: it is common practice to distribute source code in a tar.gz or tar.bz2 archive.
[10:36] <boxerboy> tell: no
[10:36] <tell> yay
[10:36] <annex> p0windah: dealing with slowdowns?  or installing the card?  That site is a very long list
[10:36] <venzen> tell: unless you mount it
[10:36] <ompaul> agent_, check the output does it look like 17.5k packages so it is the installed
[10:36] <delire_eat> Cryptid: thus you depending on what you downloaded and why, you may have to compile the application.
[10:36] <p0windah> annex: you want me to read it for you ?
[10:36] <tell> Is there a firewall i can slipstream into the live CD?
[10:37] <elzbal> venzen: I wanted to do reiserfs for my main partition, but I know not all grubs handle reiserfs well. So rather than play russian roulette with grub, I was just going to make a minimum ext2 for /boot.
[10:37] <boxerboy> live cd has nothing to do with hard drives your running it off your cd/dvd rom
[10:37] <Yapser> tell why?
[10:37] <dwerf> the update to breezy seems very problematic - i guess it's too late to stop though
[10:37] <koin> delire_eat: ok, yes, i understand. I don't have some preferences, but is difficult to me doing all the work with a software that i don't know at all!
[10:37] <p0windah> dwerf: be brave
[10:37] <delire_eat> koin: of course ;)
[10:37] <reiki_work> koin: have you looked at GimpShop? :)
[10:37] <boxerboy> its a good upgrade
[10:37] <Yapser> tell www.grc.com if you don't believe your stuff is safe
[10:37] <tell> because I'm still paranoid
[10:37] <boxerboy> im hating it right now but its a good upgrade
[10:37] <venzen> elzbal - sure
[10:37] <ai-2> hey is this a help forum or what? can you please tell me where to download vlc for ubuntu cannot find anny support for it in www.videolan.org/vlc
[10:37] <tell> yeah sheilds up1 is sweet
[10:37] <Yapser> dude
[10:37] <annex> p0windah: it sounds like you have a specific guide in mind, a link would be nice.  No I'm not asking for you to read the entire thing for me.
[10:37] <elzbal> :)
[10:37] <dwerf> so many errors and warnings - things that can't be set or deleted
[10:37] <ben42> elzbal i don not have any problems with booting ubuntu 5.04 from a reiser-partition
[10:37] <farfa> helloo
[10:37] <Yapser> go and kill your network adapter then ;)
[10:38] <venzen> elzbal - is there windowns installed on the drive?
[10:38] <markuman> ai-2: apt-cache search vlc
[10:38] <dwerf> what's alocale?
[10:38] <dwerf> what's a locale?
[10:38] <farfa> i'm french
[10:38] <venzen> come again?
[10:38] <koin> reiki_work: yes, delire_eat was just suggesting me that solution
[10:38] <venzen> hi farfa
[10:38] <elzbal> venzen: On one drive, yes. I put in a second drive just for linux.
[10:38] <ai-2> markuman that didnt work
[10:38] <dwerf> what's a locale?
[10:39] <tell> how can you force refresh rates in ubuntu?
[10:39] <bimberi> ai-2: it is a help forum, but it's busy atm.  you have to enable the universe repository to get vlc
[10:39] <venzen> elzbal - and that drive is secondary?
[10:39] <bimberi> ubotu tell ai-2 about repos
[10:39] <Yapser> tell first install your graphics card, then config your monitor
[10:39] <markuman> ai-2 do you have the universe and multiverse section in you sources.list?
[10:39] <reiki_work> koin: I have come over from a WinXP background using photoshop as well. There's an excellent book (and also on the web) called Grokking the Gimp. I think it will help you a lot
[10:39] <farfa> i'm a new in linux word
[10:39] <Yapser> then it's pretty easy to force
[10:39] <elzbal> venzen: Yes. hda is windows, hdb will be ubuntu.
[10:39] <agent_> ompaul, yeah... it seems to be only installed... output has "ii" which seems to mean installed while others files (using -l package) give me something else like "un"
[10:39] <ai-2> markuman iam new to ubuntu and apt-get
[10:40] <agent_> ompaul, anyway, thanks again!
[10:40] <p0windah> annex: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver <- nvidia
[10:40] <delire_eat> dwerf: it's a user specific context for handling language related settings including encoding.
[10:40] <tell> by installing my graphics card, you mean the drivers?
[10:40] <koin> reiki_work: thanks, i'll surely read that book
[10:40] <venzen> elzbal - then make 50-100Mb  boot partition at beginning of drive hdb - ext3 is fine, reiserfs works for me...
[10:40] <tell> is it just a system option
[10:40] <ompaul> dwerf, have a look at this it is a set of answers - from IBM and others via google http://tinyurl.com/9wfb3
[10:40] <annex> p0windah: I'm already using the nvidia driver for the nvidia card.  I'll try those exact steps though
[10:40] <p0windah> annex: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.16.20.html <- ati
[10:41] <reiki_work> koin: the entire book is also on teh web I think... so you can check it out to see if you want to have the book at your side
[10:41] <annex> p0windah: thanks
[10:41] <elzbal> venzen: Thanks. My preference is 50, but I'll probably do 100 jsut to be sure.  :)
[10:41] <annex> p0windah: so you believe it's a driver problem then?
[10:41] <delire_eat> reiki_work: this is also how i go about an ATI install, but not the reccommended Ubuntu way.
[10:41] <tell> are there nvidia specifics drivers on the live CD?
[10:41] <benjam1n> anyone know where amarok's icon gets put? does one even come with the install?
[10:41] <Yapser> tell yes
[10:42] <reiki_work> question about nVidia drivers... I haven't installed them. I have an older GeForce2 card. My video looks fine. Should I just leave it the heck alone?
[10:42] <markuman> ai-2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackageManagementHowTo?highlight=%28universe%29%7C%28multiverse%29
[10:42] <venzen> elzbal - you can do 50Mb - but be careful not to have too many (5+) kernel images in there
[10:42] <elzbal> venzen: One other question: On my main workstation, I don't typically mount /boot unless rebuilding my kernel, for safety purposes. Will Ubintu complain if I leave /boot unmounted during normal operation?
[10:42] <koin> reiki_work: i'll try to find it on the web, of course
[10:42] <boxerboy> ok ppl i did the latest breezy updates and now when i got to open package manager or updater or anything else in that group nothing happens no errors no prompt for root no nothing what did i do wrong and what can i do to fix this? and plz dont say reinstall
[10:42] <char1iecha1k> i concede!
[10:43] <tell> if i finally install it for real should i use the IA64 drivers with a G5
[10:43] <jessy> #ubuntu-fr
[10:43] <venzen> elzbal - i am not sure - but my understanding is it is mounted during boot and then not used unless installing a new kernel image...
[10:43] <boxerboy> during install of updates it asked me if i wanted to update the maintaners or something like that
[10:43] <elzbal> venzen: Thanks for the help!
[10:44] <venzen> elzbal: welcome
[10:44] <tell> *nvidia drivers
[10:44] <erUSUL> elzbal: i can not umount /boot so maybe in ubuntu you can't
[10:44] <venzen> ...
[10:44] <erUSUL> elzbal: i get device busy
[10:45] <elzbal> erusul: Thanks fro the update. Since this is for my wife, I may not mind it too much.   :)
[10:45] <erUSUL> elzbal: do not know why :( lsof says nothing
[10:45] <elzbal> erusul: Are you sure you're not in the directory in a shell?  :)   (nevermind... it's really not important...)
[10:46] <tell> pce
[10:46] <transgress> so bob2 do you sleep?
[10:46] <erUSUL> elzbal: yes. i'm sure. maybe its gamin the filesystem watcher
[10:47] <elzbal> ah
[10:47] <reiki_work> ok... almost time to close the store and go home... see y'all later
[10:48] <boxerboy> im thinking noone knows why it did that :(
[10:48] <Krneki> any PRO of apache here?
[10:48] <p0windah> so anyone here have any luck with seveas' freenx mirror ?
[10:49] <mdke> Krneki, best to ask your question
[10:49] <meuserj|work> p0windah, nope.. it's down
[10:49] <p0windah> the frontpage is up, but his repository seems empty..
[10:49] <Krneki> am
[10:49] <test34> Krneki, Im the best pro but that is the only question I answer
[10:49] <mdke> does anyone know where the account details get saved for evolution? I need to transfer my evolution to another computer
[10:49] <Krneki> i just extract phpbb forum in htdocs
[10:49] <Krneki> and apache seem not to see forum
[10:49] <meuserj|work> mdke, is should all be in .evolution
[10:50] <mdke> meuserj|work, i copied that across but my accounts are not there
[10:50] <mdke> meuserj|work, everything works except for that
[10:50] <Krneki> if i want to acess in that directory by web browser say that there is no such directory
[10:50] <mdke> meuserj|work, i also copied across the .gnome2_private/evolution file
[10:50] <Krneki> any idea, please HELP
[10:50] <meuserj|work> mdke, oh yeah.. that's right hold on, let me check something
[10:50] <mdke> Krneki, you have to read the installation documentation for phpbb
[10:50] <mdke> i think
[10:51] <delire> Krneki: check /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
[10:51] <Krneki> and for what should i look
[10:51] <delire> Krneki: i'm sure you don't have a 'Directory' entry for your new site.
[10:51] <REV-controller> If I'm using an Intel P41.7 williamette, should I install the "IA32" display drivers from nvidia?
[10:51] <meuserj|work> mdke, it looks like it keeps it in gconf
[10:52] <mdke> meuserj|work, eww
[10:52] <delire> Krneki: see /etc/apache/httpd.conf if above is empty. yes, and read the phbb docs
[10:52] <Krneki> aha
[10:52] <Krneki> wehre sould it be
[10:52] <meuserj|work> if you take .gconf/apps/evolution/ it should do the trick
[10:53] <Yapser> back
[10:53] <REV-controller> ?
[10:53] <mdke> meuserj|work, ok i did that, still nothing, should i restart gnome?
[10:53] <delire> Krneki: no need to msg me. is your phbb extracted to /var/www/?
[10:54] <char1iecha1k> i reckon this sony laptop has been made so that i cant install linux every distr i try has a crc error but i know those disks are fine, then when i try winslows it installs fine :/
[10:54] <delire> Krneki: if so then you may not need to setup an alias. you might want to try restarting apache 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart'
[10:54] <meuserj|work> mdke, yeah, and make sure gconfd shuts down too
[10:54] <ai-2> Ok now i did thoose stuff with universe. now i only do apt-get install vlc
[10:55] <mdke> meuserj|work, all right *sigh*
[10:55] <Krneki> am i extract phpbb to /usr/local/apache2/htdocs
[10:55] <mdke> meuserj|work, they should really make it easier to migrate!
[10:55] <ai-2> what about ABC yet another bittorrent client, how do i get it with apt-get?
[10:55] <delire> ai-2: apt-get install <the package name here>
[10:56] <ai-2> yes but i was wondering what the package name for ABC is? someone who knows?
[10:56] <delire> ai-2: apt-cache search abc bittorrent
[10:56] <ben42> ai-2 apt-cache search ABC
[10:56] <Rammal> Yo Do I need to extract all files from ubuntu.iso in order to burn them into a CD or I should just burn the whole file(ubuntu.iso)?
[10:56] <Yapser> ai-2 apt-cache search ABC
[10:56] <Yapser> rofl
[10:56] <Yapser> 3rd in teh row
[10:56] <delire> ai-2: then select the appropriate program from the list.
[10:57] <benjam1n> how do i edit my mime types, i want all audio files to be played my amarok not totem
[10:57] <ben42> Rammal which program you will use to burn it?
[10:57] <ai-2> ok
[10:57] <delire> ai-2: if there is no output then it either doesn't exist or it's not in the repository.
[10:57] <mdke> meuserj|work, still nothing :(
[10:57] <Rammal> Nero Express.
[10:57] <erUSUL> Rammal: burn the isofile
[10:58] <ben42> benjam1n with gnome?
[10:58] <benjam1n> yeah
[10:58] <ai-2> ok delire is there any bittorrent client package in list
[10:58] <oracel> there we go, kubuntu breezy badger all set
[10:58] <oracel> I gotta say
[10:58] <Yapser> ai-2
[10:58] <oracel> ubuntu really blows my mind when it comes to hardware
[10:58] <Yapser> why don't you use gnome-bittorent?
[10:58] <Yapser> same principle
[10:58] <ben42> benjam1n right click on one of the file -> open with
[10:58] <oracel> it automagically works perfectly with my soundcard
[10:58] <oracel> in sharp contrast to debian
[10:59] <oracel> which doesn't work well with it at all!
[10:59] <ben42> benjam1n: there you can change and add the default program
[10:59] <mdke> does anyone know how to successfully copy over the evolution files from one computer to another? I've copied mine but evolution is not seeing my accounts
[10:59] <saldb> ha! ipw2200 just needs to be completely reinstalled and then things seem to actually work somewhat
[10:59] <delire> oracel: debian is not a desktop driven os
[10:59] <ben42> delire ACK
[11:00] <benjam1n> cool, thanks
[11:00] <CrTr>  My subtitles are in cyrilic and when I'm watching a movie a see them in "???? ? ????? ?? ?? ??" What to do ?
[11:00] <ben42> benjam1n you're welcome
[11:00] <mdke> meuserj|work, recreate them manually do you think?
[11:00] <ben42> CrTr you have add the right locales
[11:00] <delire> debian powers robots, cars, satellites, battle-tanks, servers and oh, some desktops and desktop focussed distro's..
[11:01] <ben42> CrTr you can do it with "dpkg-reconfigure locales"
[11:01] <ninjafish> delire debian tends to be pushed rather than driven nowadays
[11:01] <meuserj|work> mdke, still didn't work?? odd... yeah it looks like that is all you can do...
[11:01] <mdke> meuserj|work, k
[11:01] <delire> ninjafish: not sure what is meant by that. debian's always served me very well.
[11:01] <ninjafish> what tanks?
[11:02] <CrTr> ben42 10q
[11:02] <ben42> CrTr welcome
[11:02] <delire> ninjafish: i can't remember, perhaps a hallucination that future combat systems were deploying it.
[11:03] <ninjafish> delire. nothing against debian, it is in a class of it's own. It's just that if it was not for the spin offs it would not move forward
[11:04] <mdke> meuserj|work, found the answer in #evolution on gimpnet
[11:04] <ninjafish> debian although that does keep it stable
[11:05] <bimberi> delire: just say that "which tanks" is classified information :)
[11:05] <mdke> meuserj|work, you have to stop the gconf daemon while copying and e-d-s too
[11:05] <delire> ninjafish: not so sure about that. debian is all about stable and spinoffs.
[11:05] <delire> bimberi: ;)
[11:06] <delire> ninjafish: in other words, the 'spinoffs' is partially why debian was produced in the first instance.
[11:06] <ninjafish> I.e pushed not driven
[11:06] <meuserj|work> mdke, ah.. makes sense.. I should have thought of that....
[11:07] <Kork> hi
[11:07] <Kork> does anyone know when the final version of ubuntu 5.10 is released?
[11:08] <elzbal> heh... isn't that in the channel topic? (Oct 13, according to the topic.)
[11:08] <Kork> ok, thx
[11:09] <elzbal> np. :)
[11:09] <elzbal> fwiw, I really don't know anything beyond that.  :)
[11:09] <abydos> mmk, to mildly deviate from the topic, albuquerque drivers are complete whack jobs
[11:10] <Hoxzer> is it possible to move xchat's channels bar from bottom to left side?
[11:10] <beefer> hello
[11:10] <ninjafish> abydos so are Nvida drivers
[11:10] <beefer> can someone from the us send me a disc please
[11:10] <abydos> ninjafish:  Ah, another geek without a life.
[11:10] <Krneki> how to create link to
[11:11] <Krneki> link to folder
[11:11] <Hoxzer> ok, fount a way
[11:11] <Krneki> in terminal
[11:11] <rawler> hey ppl!
[11:11] <abydos> dmb062082:  an ubuntu disc?
[11:11] <abydos> dmb062082:  use netship, it's free!
[11:12] <meuserj|work> Krneki, a way to do it graphically in nautilus is by dragging the icon while holding down on "CTRL-Shift"
[11:12] <rawler> just a quick question, is there any existing packages of mplayer that WORKS? (thinking of libavcodec)
[11:12] <ben42> Krneki ln -s <folde you want to link to> <linkname>
[11:12] <dmb062082> ive requested the free ship option many times, I am screwed here, my pc is shot and i can not access a windows os disc, and my debian net install disc will no longer work as that pc no longer has cable access
[11:12] <dmb062082> im on like week #5 no go with the free disc in the mail
[11:12] <ninjafish> dmb where do you live
[11:12] <erUSUL> Krneki: man ln. Nobody here read the manuals before asking? ln -s <name> dir/
[11:12] <dmb062082> new york
[11:12] <abydos> dmb062082:  I could send you a Warty CD set, but I have no money for shipping
[11:13] <Versed> I just d/l and burned the iso
[11:13] <dmb062082> sure man
[11:13] <abydos> dmb062082:  I literally have 10 bucks for gas until I get a job here
[11:13] <dmb062082> how much
[11:13] <Fluxbox> hello all
[11:13] <ninjafish> dmb o.k. sorry, I have spare discs, but am in uk
[11:13] <dmb062082> i can paypal it
[11:13] <Fluxbox> lol
[11:13] <Versed> didn't take that long, cd's are cheap and figure let them use their money in more productive areas.
[11:13] <Fluxbox> FR  ?
[11:13] <dmb062082> yeah i am on my fathers pc and he has dial up here
[11:13] <Fluxbox> FR?
[11:13] <dmb062082> i never thought this would happen
[11:13] <Versed> were in ny?
[11:13] <dmb062082> arrrg
[11:13] <dmb062082> upstate
[11:13] <Fluxbox> sorry
[11:13] <abydos> dmb062082:  You probably want hoary discs
[11:14] <Fluxbox> bye
[11:14] <Versed> and yeah I have cable.
[11:14] <dmb062082> hoary is nice
[11:14] <abydos> do you not have a friend that has DSL or a CD-RW?
[11:14] <abydos> Or do you not have friends?
[11:14] <Versed> So I can understand if it's dialup
[11:14] <dmb062082> i like the idea of kubuntu aS I AM A KDE FAN
[11:14] <dmb062082> none of my friends own a pc
[11:14] <abydos> oh, all I have is regular ubuntu
[11:14] <abydos> eep
[11:14] <abydos> boonies
[11:14] <Yapser> what's with the dmb062082 guy?
[11:14] <ninjafish> dmb do you not have a linux magazine in USA?
[11:14] <Yapser> no internet or something/
[11:15] <Yapser> ?
[11:15] <abydos> ninjafish:  we have several actually, Linux Format, Linux Journal
[11:15] <dmb062082> linux mag yeah
[11:15] <Versed> I saw it today at Barns & Noble.
[11:15] <elzbal> dmb: I generally prefer KDE, but I'm trying out Gnome 2.12 now, and I have to admit it's not too bad... I could get used to it....
[11:15] <dmb062082> thought those were only in germany or something
[11:15] <dmb062082> gnome bleh
[11:15] <abydos> LXF is my personal favorite, but it's published in the UK and is 100 bucks a year for a US subscription
[11:15] <dmb062082> kde rocks
[11:15] <ninjafish> dmb then get a copy they have a few distros on. if they have a DVD on the cover
[11:16] <abydos> dmb062082:  I use gnome quite handily, but KDE has its uses as well
[11:16] <dmb062082> ill look into the mag today
[11:16] <Versed> I installed kde yesterday, I was used to using it in the past, but gnome sorta grew on me, seemed alot cleaner with alot less clutter.
[11:16] <Versed> I can switch if I want on boot.
[11:16] <ninjafish> I get Linux Format (UK), usually 2-4 distros each issue (plus the essential software)
[11:16] <dmb062082> i guess, ive used both front ends and tested a few others
[11:16] <ninjafish> their news is a bit behind though
[11:16] <abydos> ninjafish:  I love LXF
[11:16] <dmb062082> there was one that looked amazing but it was a mess
[11:17] <elzbal> dmb: enlightenment?
[11:17] <dmb062082> yes thats it elz
[11:17] <elzbal> I used it for a while too, back in the day....
[11:17] <cyphase> this post (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65532) says that Ubuntu 6.04 (The Dapper Drake) will be the current release when Vista comes out. isn't it going to be 6.10?
[11:17] <Versed> Well usually publications are 2 months or so behind.
[11:17] <dmb062082> by far the best looking once tweaked, but it was not worth the crap
[11:18] <cyphase> vista is coming out november or december (or later)
[11:18] <dmb062082> so i see in many ways ubuntu is just a debian fork or no?
[11:18] <vrln> is there an estimated date for RC1 (breezy)? I'm asking this because I'm wondering if I should go ahead and install the preview release, or wait a few days if the RC1 version is coming "soonish"
[11:18] <ninjafish> dmb yes and no
[11:18] <vrln> as far as I know, it should be released more or less soon?
[11:18] <mjr> dmb062082, well, it is kept mostly in sync each release, but yeah
[11:18] <ninjafish> dmb yes it is a fork, no it is not just a fork
[11:18] <dmb062082> thats cool does it use apt-get
[11:19] <ben42> dmb062082 certainly
[11:19] <abydos> ubuntu definitely uses apt
[11:19] <dmb062082> sweet
[11:19] <abydos> that's the main appeal of forking debian
[11:19] <help> hello ppl.
[11:19] <Yapser> lo
[11:19] <dmb062082> is there a list of apps running w/(k)ubuntu
[11:19] <dmb062082> i cant find it
[11:19] <ninjafish> dmb ubuntu does have that 'if it aint free(as in speech) it is not in' attitude of debian.
[11:20] <__filip_> what should i write if i what to write in my hda6 that is an vfat disk?
[11:20] <ninjafish> which I disagree with somethimes
[11:20] <help> in new in open office i have an excel file and when i printer i want it to fit to print like in window office. is there an option for that in open office?
[11:20] <abydos> dmb062082:  most apps that run with debian work with kubuntu
[11:20] <dmb062082> does ubuntu access the debian network for files, or no?
[11:20] <abydos> dmb062082:  in fact, most apps that are in KDE are already in ubuntu, such as amarok
[11:20] <Blissex> NO.
[11:20] <erUSUL> __filip_: mount -t vfat /dev/hda6 /mount/point
[11:20] <bimberi> dmb062082: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[11:21] <dmb062082> ahh ok
[11:21] <abydos> dmb062082:  ubuntu has its own repositories, but I believe with a lot of tweaking you can use the official debian sources
[11:21] <bimberi> dmb062082: ubuntu has its own repositories
[11:21] <cisco> hello everybody! enyone knows how to configure a sound car in OS ubuntu
[11:21] <flugh> dang it, ubuntu is the best. you people are  top notch!
[11:21] <__filip_> erUSUL: i whant to add it to my fstab
[11:21] <Blissex> dmb062082: most Debian apps work with Ubuntu, if you are rather careful and match releases.
[11:21] <erUSUL> !tell __filip_  about Windows Drives
[11:21] <dmb062082> i see
[11:21] <abydos> dmb062082:  but the point of the whole "it's not debian" aspect is lost if you start using debian sources
[11:21] <ninjafish> my any mad chance does anyone use rosegarden here?
[11:21] <Blissex> dmb062082: but in general Ubuntu installs do not access Debian repositories.
[11:21] <jc-denton> hi
[11:22] <abydos> ninjafish:  I've toyed with it, only very briefly
[11:22] <jc-denton> what options do i have to give the kernel to be ableto wake up from swsups
[11:22] <jc-denton> swsusp
[11:22] <NoUse> hey everyone I'm having trouble with alsa, I don't seem to have the capture functionality, in the gnome mixer there is only a playback tab
[11:22] <jc-denton> ?
[11:22] <dmb062082> so what makes (k)ubuntu different from debian? Rather what stands out the most?
[11:22] <CrTr> Do I need to rebbot after I reconfigure locales ?
[11:22] <CrTr> reboot*
[11:22] <bimberi> ninjafish: i installed it, ran it, gasped at the interface, and closed it once - but that's about it sorry :)
[11:23] <s4f3_m0d3> dmb062082, active development, packages, and the layout is different
[11:23] <abydos> dmb062082:  ubuntu is more desktop-oriented than debian, which is sort of a "meta-distribution" to borrow a Gentoo term
[11:23] <erUSUL> __filip_: echo '/dev/hda6       /mnt/hda6       vfat    rw,user,noauto          0       0' >> /etc/fstab ; mkdir /mnt/hda6
[11:23] <lonewolff> dmb062082: its much easier to install and get running, more user friendly, its also using a lot more new packages
[11:23] <erUSUL> !tell __filip_  about WindowsDrives
[11:23] <dmb062082> so its more user friendly? Not that i care but its cool
[11:23] <abydos> dmb062082:  oh yes, and more frequent releases and less broken "unstable" releases
[11:23] <dmb062082> nice
[11:23] <terje> Hey gang, I've just s/hoary/breezy/ in /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. Now, when it boots up my gnome-panel application keeps crashing.
[11:23] <abydos> dmb062082:  and it uses xorg, which debian switched to about what, 2 months ago?
[11:24] <help> i am new in open office i have an excel file and when i print i want it to fit to print like in window office. is there an option for that in open office?
[11:24] <dmb062082> is ther a 64 bit version?
[11:24] <Dreezard> hi everyone
[11:24] <jc-denton> i remeber there was some option
[11:24] <lonewolff> dmb062082: yes
[11:24] <terje> Nothing in the forums on it.
[11:24] <abydos> dmb062082:  most certainly
[11:24] <CrTr> Do I need to reboot after I reconfigure locales ?
[11:24] <jc-denton> maybe resume=/dev/swap ?
[11:24] <bimberi> help: #openoffice.org
[11:25] <erUSUL> CrTr: log-out and log-in should do
[11:25] <dmb062082> and did anyone test 5.10 yet? that is the version i am downloading, but I dont think I will be able to complete it
[11:25] <terje> I'm trying to test it.
[11:25] <Yapser> why is everyone downing the unstable?
[11:25] <abydos> dmb062082:  also, a difference between them is that debian is the netbsd of linuxes, whereas ubuntu runs on i386, x64, and PPC
[11:25] <Yapser> just get 5.3
[11:25] <Yapser> 4
[11:25] <terje> is 5.10 eq breezy ?
[11:25] <Yapser> juh
[11:25] <martii> terje: yep
[11:25] <abydos> terje:  5.10 is hoary innit
[11:25] <dmb062082> unstable always = more fun i thought
[11:25] <ramdiaz> hello, can anyone help me:  i'm running breezy and it froze while doing an update, so when I rebooted I got a message about "show desktop" and "desktop switcher" and now I can't see my desktop switcher or any applications that are open (I have to alt+tab to change applications)
[11:26] <ramdiaz> anyone know how to get these things to show again
[11:26] <erUSUL> terje: yes
[11:26] <abydos> lonewolff:  it's hoary innit?
[11:26] <terje> heh, I'm getting two different answers
[11:26] <p0windah> nite nite girls
[11:26] <lonewolff> abydos: no, breezy, 5.04 is hoary 5.10 breezy
[11:26] <oracel> my first impression of 5.10 (kubuntu) is "wow"
[11:26] <dooglus> 5.4: hoary; 5.10: breezy; 6.4: dapper
[11:26] <oracel> this is a really streamlined distro
[11:26] <ninjafish> what animal is breezy?
[11:26] <abydos> lonewolff:  aha, k
[11:26] <abydos> ninjafish:  badger
[11:26] <ramdiaz> badger
[11:26] <ninjafish> cool
[11:26] <dmb062082> oracel oh yeah
[11:26] <dmb062082> tell me more
[11:27] <ninjafish> dmb 1 cd
[11:27] <oracel> dmb062082 well everything just works
[11:27] <terje> yea, so upgrading to breezy from hoary using apt seems to have broken gnome for me.
[11:27] <dmb062082> yes i see that ninja
[11:27] <Blissex> i hate stupid things like ''cool'' Unbuntu and Debian edition names. Just a number would be much clearer
[11:27] <oracel> soundcard, video, screen resolution
[11:27] <erUSUL> terje: hoary is 5.04 it shipped in 04 2005
[11:27] <oracel> everything is ready and set up
[11:27] <oracel> out of the box
[11:27] <neighborlee> does anyone know if the checkinstall  method for creating a .deb is current as in acceptable ?
[11:27] <dmb062082> wow
[11:27] <terje> erUSUL, thanks.
[11:27] <oracel> even speedstep w/ governors for my laptop works!
[11:27] <oracel> I've spent hours tinkering with that on gentoo
[11:27] <abydos> dmb062082:  Another amin difference is that ubuntu has everything you need for a desktop on ONE CD, whereas debian has packages like that strewn all over the CDs
[11:28] <dmb062082> gentoo bleh
[11:28] <abydos> I'm running one hoary machine and one mongrel-sarge-etch
[11:28] <dooglus> abydos: ubuntu can play mp3s now, and view flash on the web?
[11:28] <terje> guess I'll have to install from the CD and see if that'll fix it.
[11:28] <abydos> dooglus:  My ubuntu can, because I set it up properly
[11:28] <vader1102> oracel, mine even did my wireless out of the box....no further download or setup
[11:28] <abydos> dooglus:  same with java
[11:28] <dooglus> abydos: all from 1 cd?
[11:28] <dmb062082> abydos what about offline sql/php enviornments?
[11:28] <terje> I can't even downgrade back to hoary
[11:28] <oracel> vader1102, so will mine when the 2.6.14 kernel is out :D
[11:28] <abydos> dooglus:  okay, that's not *technically* required for desktop operation
[11:28] <oracel> :D:D:D
[11:29] <terje> glad I backed up my homedir
[11:29] <dooglus> abydos: neither's X
[11:29] <abydos> dmb062082:  I don't know, I don't use sql
[11:29] <ramdiaz>  hello, can anyone help me:  i'm running breezy and it froze while doing an update, so when I rebooted I got a message about "show desktop" and "desktop switcher" and now I can't see my desktop switcher or any applications that are open (I have to alt+tab to change applications)
[11:29] <dmb062082> ok
[11:29] <ninjafish> I have gentoo on my desktop, I remember typing emerge update deepworld. I only had KDE and AmaROK and it took all weekend on a P4
[11:29] <oracel> my card is an exception though (the ipw2200), but there's an excellent howto for it
[11:29] <vader1102> oracel,  I have no idea, i AM STILL USING the old one
[11:29] <abydos> dooglus:  X is somewhat necessary for graphical browsers
[11:29] <vader1102> it is kool though
[11:29] <erUSUL> ramdiaz: have you completed the upgrade that brake everything
[11:29] <microsoft_bob> lol!!!
[11:30] <ramdiaz> lol i dont think so
[11:30] <dooglus> abydos: graphical browsers aren't *technically* required on a desktop PC.  you can use lynx.
[11:30] <ramdiaz> it's just that one thing
[11:30] <venzen> dmb062082: sql/php/apache works great
[11:30] <Dreezard> I've got a little question concerning the new gnome environment. There is a adressbar that shows the place where I am, but you can't type sth in there. How can I change to the "kde-styled-adressbar" where you can type the location I want to go to?
[11:30] <dooglus> they're expected, and so's the ability to play mp3 files.
[11:30] <dmb062082> venzen does that come with the kubuntu release?
[11:30] <abydos> ninjafish:  I remember when I ran gentoo.  Then I turned 16 and said "I don't ahve the time to spend 5 hours to save 15 seconds on startup of every app."
[11:30] <jc-denton> and hey
[11:30] <jc-denton> swapon /dev/hda3 does now work
[11:30] <abydos> dooglus:  at least it is simple enough to add mp3 support.
[11:31] <venzen> dmb062082: dunno - i am on ubuntu standard
[11:31] <dmb062082> gentoo is no fun man when you have a pc with 64 megs of ram....
[11:31] <jc-denton> i guess this is related to udev
[11:31] <jc-denton> how do i enable swap on ubuntu
[11:31] <dmb062082> im at 128 now but damn the install was like 3 days
[11:31] <abydos> dmb062082:  terminate that sentence before "man." and it's true
[11:31] <ramdiaz> so anyone know if I can edit any gnome startup files to show my desktop switcher and toolbar?
[11:31] <erUSUL> jc-denton: add the swap partition to fstab run swapon -a
[11:32] <dmb062082> heh
[11:32] <jc-denton> erUSUL: that's what i did
[11:32] <jc-denton> i'm not that stupid
[11:32] <abydos> my mongrel machine (it *was* debian sarge, then idiot me forgot to modify sources.list before mindlessly updating
[11:32] <abydos> and it's now like...
[11:32] <abydos> setch
[11:32] <jc-denton> < root@nx7010:~ # swapon -a
[11:32] <jc-denton> swapon: /dev/hda3: Invalid argument
[11:32] <venzen> ramdiaz: rightclick on bottom panel and add...
[11:32] <abydos> or etge
[11:32] <erUSUL> jc-denton: you have run mkswap /dev/xxx, have not you?
[11:32] <dmb062082> 14.3 of 655.5 MB at 7.7 KB/sec; 23:03:12 remain
[11:32] <dooglus> I just remembered why I came here...  whenever I run an X app, I see stuff like: "(gnome-terminal:7021): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib".  any idea how I can fix that?
[11:32] <dmb062082> this does suck
[11:33] <jc-denton> erUSUL: of course
[11:33] <jc-denton> /dev/hda3           76531       77520      498960   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[11:33] <jc-denton> [4340788.391000]  Unable to find swap-space signature
[11:33] <dooglus> I have LANG=en_GB and LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
[11:33] <jc-denton> what does that mean?
[11:33] <ninjafish> thing is I bet the vast majority of people use the default USE flags anyway, therefore only 1 of them needs to compile it from source. just change arch to 686.
[11:34] <dmb062082> well thanks for the time and help
[11:35] <dmb062082> i need to go read up on the cowboys, x360 and drink a few beers
[11:35] <abydos> must be nice
[11:35] <abydos> i'm gonna go look for a job
[11:35] <dmb062082> ?
[11:35] <dmb062082> haha
[11:35] <ramdiaz> awesome, thanks venzen
[11:35] <dmb062082> im taking the nys c.o. civil service exam soon
[11:35] <dmb062082> cant wait
[11:36] <erUSUL> jc-denton: i do not know maybe the mkswap was not right try again
[11:36] <dmb062082> i also need a job... bad
[11:36] <dmb062082> later
[11:36] <dooglus> anybody?
[11:36] <fonsken> sometimes :)
[11:37] <dmb062082> emm en
[11:37] <ChazZ> has anyone else had problems with their computer randomly powering down every now and then?
[11:37] <ninjafish> dooglas, english????
[11:37] <ninjafish> as in british english
[11:37] <fonsken> ChazZ, nothing in /var/log/messages or so?
[11:37] <dooglus> ninjafish: what are you asking me?
[11:37] <ChazZ> i haven't checked
[11:38] <venzen> ChazZ: is it your pc or your electricity company?
[11:38] <dmb062082> my only pc problems are not having adobe and macromedia development support on linux =(
[11:38] <ChazZ> it's the pc definitely
[11:38] <jc-denton> erUSUL: u know udev?
[11:38] <ChazZ> i'll check the logs
[11:38] <erUSUL> ChazZ: no but it seems hardware problem
[11:38] <dmb062082> if i had those apps on linux, i would never need windows again
[11:38] <dooglus> ninjafish: I'm English, as in British English if that's what you're asking.
[11:38] <dmb062082> ok i must leave now bye
[11:38] <dooglus> ninjafish: and so's my locale, if that's what you're asking.
[11:38] <erUSUL> jc-denton: probably not enough
[11:38] <zeroth_> Hi, it says "E: Couldn't find package bluefish" when I type "apt-get install bluefish". Any ideas?
[11:38] <axl> Which pokerclient (for online poker) works with ubuntu?
[11:39] <jc-denton> lol
[11:39] <jc-denton> it works now
[11:39] <jc-denton> but very strange
[11:39] <mjr> axl, pokerroom.com's java thingy works if you install jre/jdk
[11:39] <jc-denton> i did this some days ago
[11:39] <oracel> oh whoa
[11:39] <oracel> hey guys
[11:39] <zeroth_> Also, what's a good a FTP client?
[11:39] <oracel> nevermind what I said about my wireless card
[11:39] <ben42> zeroth_ wich repositories do you use? universe?
[11:39] <jc-denton> is there anything special i need to tell ubuntu to work with my swap partition
[11:39] <venzen> gftyp
[11:39] <axl> zeroth_: gftp
[11:39] <oracel> it's supported indeed, out of the box
[11:39] <oracel> man
[11:39] <venzen> *gftp
[11:39] <dooglus> zeroth_: /usr/bin/ftp is very stable
[11:39] <ninjafish> dooglus, hang on I am looking into your problem
[11:39] <zeroth_> ben42, repositories?
[11:39] <oracel> those ubuntu devs deserve a big thank you from me
[11:39] <oracel> this is awesome
[11:39] <jc-denton> i think i forgot to set up when i installed ubuntu
[11:39] <jc-denton> i run breezy
[11:39] <dooglus> zeroth_: very lightweight too
[11:40] <zeroth_> Ok, cool.
[11:40] <zeroth_> ben42, explain the concept of repositories?
[11:41] <ben42> zeroth_ uncomment the universe-part in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:41] <cafuego_> jc-denton: Just add it to /etc/fstab
[11:41] <erUSUL> !tell zeroth_ about repos
[11:41] <jc-denton> cafuego_: yes i did that
[11:41] <ChazZ> ah well i'll probably just reinstall or switch back to fedora or something if this problem keeps up
[11:41] <ben42> zeroth_ i will send you a link
[11:41] <cafuego_> jc-denton: then 'sudo swapon -a' and voila.
[11:41] <jc-denton> /dev/hda3               none            swap            sw                              0       0
[11:41] <zeroth_> Ok, thanks.
[11:41] <jc-denton> cafuego_: yes i know
[11:41] <jc-denton> but i have strange problemes here
[11:41] <dooglus> ninjafish: this is in breezy, if that's relevant
[11:41] <venzen> ChazZ: hold on hold on.. fedora will do the same...
[11:42] <jc-denton> probably related to the breezy kernel..
[11:42] <ChazZ> i didn't have that problem when i was using it before though
[11:42] <cafuego_> Such as?
[11:42] <ben42> zeroth_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniversePackages?highlight=%28universe%29
[11:42] <ninjafish> dooglus, ahh. do you have language-support-en?
[11:42] <venzen> ChazZ: what ubuntu version are u using?
[11:42] <ChazZ> hoary
[11:42] <venzen> ChazZ: and what do your logs say?
[11:42] <jc-denton> does udev change anything in the way linux handles swap?
[11:43] <cafuego_> nope
[11:43] <dooglus> ninjafish: notice that it happens for simple programs like xclock, and for other locales:
[11:43] <dooglus> chris@chrislap:~$ LANG=en_US /usr/bin/xclock
[11:43] <dooglus> Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[11:43] <cafuego_> jc-denton: if you used LVM there may be oddness, but udev doesn't affect swap.
[11:43] <jc-denton> well thx4tring to help
[11:43] <jc-denton> i dont use lvm
[11:43] <jc-denton> anyaway
[11:43] <dooglus> ninjafish: I don't have any language-support packages.  will get it.
[11:43] <jc-denton> i go to bed, n8
[11:44] <cafuego_> who is nate?
[11:44] <dooglus> ninjafish: I can't see that it can possibly help though - it's only for openoffice, ispell and other such programs.  not for xclock...
[11:44] <__filip_> i have write this in fstab: /dev/hda6 /media/hda6 vfat rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0  i cant write in hda6. what should i write?
[11:46] <ninjafish> dooglas language-pack-en
[11:46] <erUSUL> __filip_: i bet that the culprit is fmask try 0022
[11:46] <venzen> filip: create a directory in /media - eg. 'sudo mkdir /media/disk6'
[11:46] <dooglus> ninjafish: I just installed it.  it didn't help.
[11:46] <erUSUL> or simply defaults
[11:46] <dooglus> chris@chrislap:~$ LANG=en_US /usr/bin/xclock
[11:46] <dooglus> Warning: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[11:46] <__filip_> venzen: why?
[11:47] <erUSUL> __filip_: or simply rw,user,defaults
[11:47] <venzen> filip: then replace /media/hda6 with /media/disk6 in fstab..
[11:47] <erUSUL> __filip_: it works (tm)
[11:47] <__filip_> venzen: i dont whant that
[11:47] <venzen> filip do you have a dir called hda6 in /media ?
[11:47] <reiki> anyone got time to help me troubleshoot trying to get my mic to record?
[11:47] <__filip_> yes
[11:48] <__filip_> /dev/hda6 /media/hda6 vfat rw,user,defaults 0 0 that is the line now, it is right or?
[11:48] <zeroth_> What's the equivalent of WinKey + M?
[11:48] <erUSUL> venzen: it does *not* matter where you mount the partition i can't see your point
[11:48] <venzen> filip: ok... ireread your post above.
[11:48] <erUSUL> __filip_: yes
[11:48] <zeroth_> I mean... How to minimize all windows?
[11:48] <transgress> herm.  okay i can't use fglrxconfig to configure X anymore
[11:48] <ninjafish> dooglus echo $LC_ALL into the paste bin
[11:48] <transgress> but if i use dpkg-reconfigure i can get X working on breezy
[11:49] <venzen> zeroth - click on the desktop icon bottom left
[11:49] <transgress> but it doesn't allow me to get firegl instead of mesa for 3daccel
[11:49] <__filip_> erUSUL: does i need to do somethink more? unmount it and then mount it?
[11:49] <transgress> any tips?
[11:49] <erUSUL> __filip_: yes
[11:49] <Diffindo> Hey
[11:49] <__filip_> erUSUL: what is the command?
[11:50] <Diffindo> I can't connect to certain IRC networks with XChat
[11:50] <dooglus> ninjafish: I can echo it here, but you wouldn't see it.  the output is invisible
[11:50] <venzen> erUSUL: does rw,user,defaults make sense ?
[11:50] <dooglus> ninjafish: I don't have anything called LC_ALL in my environment
[11:51] <erUSUL> venzen: yes is what i use rw,user,defaults,noauto
[11:51] <ninjafish> dooglus, my mistake, echo $LANG
[11:51] <venzen> erUSUL: cool
[11:51] <jontiz> ses pojkar *vink*
[11:51] <erUSUL> venzen: i do not want this partitions mounted on boot
[11:52] <erUSUL> venzen: so i use noauto
[11:52] <dooglus> ninjafish: I'm setting LANG on the command line.  that overrides any environmental setting
[11:52] <venzen> erUZUL - hence noauto
[11:52] <dooglus> ninjafish: I'm running    LANG=en_US /usr/bin/xclock
[11:52] <ai-2> the sound is not working in vlc is there anything i can do to make it work?
[11:53] <venzen> filip: 'sudo umount /media/hda6' then 'sudo mount /media/hda6'
[11:53] <erUSUL> venzen: with the user option any user can mount the partition no need to sudo
[11:53] <__filip_> i cant write in them anyway?
[11:54] <venzen> thanks erUZUL
[11:54] <erUSUL> venzen: if you mounted the partition as root the files in it will be owned by root. You have to mount it as your user
[11:55] <venzen> erUSUL: i have /home mounted as root...!
[11:55] <Diffindo> I need some info on Windows Emulation
[11:55] <erUSUL> but home is not a vfat filesystem i bet
[11:55] <venzen> erUSUL - true
[11:55] <dooglus> ninjafish: I'm going to have to reboot, but I'll stay in this channel.  So if you have any ideas, tell me here and I'll read them later.  If I don't see anything that fixes it, I'll raise a bug in bugzilla (heaven knows what against - possibly xorg?) later.
[11:56] <Diffindo> What are the best windows Emulators for gaming?
[11:56] <zeroth_> Where is "Home"? As in the default dir for firefox downloads?
[11:56] <ben42> Diffindo  http://www.transgaming.com/latest_news.php
[11:57] <ninjafish> dooglus before you go
[11:57] <venzen> erUSUL so u saying user is for use w/ vfat ?
[11:57] <ben42> Diffindo cedega
[11:57] <venzen> zeroth: ask again but differently
[11:57] <erUSUL> a vfat can not keep permisions so the system fakes them. The user who mount the vfat owns every file in it
[11:57] <Diffindo> ben42: thanks
[11:57] <zeroth_> venzen, eh?
[11:57] <zeroth_> Found it, nn.
[11:57] <ai-2> hello could someone please tell me how to fix the audi/sound problem with vlc? i dont have any sound.
[11:58] <venzen> zeroth - u asked abt 'home'
[11:58] <zeroth_> I did.
[11:58] <ninjafish> look quickly at /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/local.alias
[11:58] <erUSUL> venzen: only if you want that every user could mount the partition
[11:58] <erUSUL> venzen: you can list specific users in fstab
[11:59] <venzen> erUSUL: i'm glad to learn about that! abt 2 yrs ago i was freakin out with this problem... now I don't use vfat anymore
[11:59] <venzen> erUSUL: but useful info thanks