[12:03] <bradb> kiko: yeah, don't make me guess :P
[12:04] <kiko> I don't know, maybe it's because of the orderBy bug we had in BugTaskSet, but it was minimal
[12:04] <kiko> and unrelated
[12:05] <kiko> did you make lint?
[12:05] <kiko> -        result = list(BugTracker.select())
[12:05] <kiko> +        btset = getUtility(IBugTrackerSet)
[12:05] <kiko> +        result = list(btset)
[12:05] <kiko> why not add a select() there too?
[12:06] <bradb> I could have, yeah.
[12:06] <kiko> for consistency's sake
[12:06] <kiko> other than that r=kiko
[12:08] <bradb> kiko: re: make lint, no I often skip make lint because of two main things: 1. it doesn't work the way I want it to. make lint'ing between every commit just Takes Too Long (on top of all the software that already slows us down) and 2. it doesn't seem to understand interfaces. and a third one: I forget.
[12:08] <kiko> how can make lint be slow my god
[12:08] <kiko> it takes like 8s
[12:09] <kiko> how does it not understand interfaces?
[12:09] <bradb> make lint'ing between every commit takes longer than 8 secs for me. it also implies that I've actually got to have lint-free code with *every* *local* *commit*. that's a pretty serious burden for me to assume.
[12:10] <kiko> it's actually good practice
[12:10] <bradb> kiko: it gives warnings about things that it wouldn't warn about if it understood what interfaces were
[12:10] <kiko> such as?
[12:10] <kiko> I've fixed most of these
[12:10] <bradb> i don't recall, i don't run make lint usually :)
[12:10] <kiko> so stop strawmanning and RUN IT
[12:10] <bradb> kiko: seriously, it might sound nice to always local commit lint free code, but in practice, it's pain. pain pain pain.
[12:11] <kiko> funny 
[12:11] <bradb> stuart agree
[12:11] <bradb> s
[12:11] <kiko> that's not surprising
[12:11] <kiko> but you are not honestly giving it a shot
[12:11] <kiko> I'll explain
[12:12] <kiko> it usually catches programming errors in untested codepaths
[12:12] <kiko> more than once I've had it surprise me and I said "wow"
[12:12] <kiko> and unless you don't run baz status before committing (which is good practice)
[12:12] <kiko> it shouldn't take more than 8s
[12:12] <kiko> and if it does
[12:12] <kiko> your next merge will take less Xs where X is T-8s
[12:13] <bradb> kiko: notice, i didn't complain about how long it takes to run make lint.
[12:13] <bradb> kiko: i may make local commits whenever i feel like it, e.g.
[12:13] <kiko> you may, but it's not necessarily a good idea
[12:13] <bradb> start of the day, i'm working on a somewhat biggish feature, i want to make sure there's no conflicts outstanding that might make my life even worse
[12:14] <bradb> so, i commit and then --star-merge to sort things out
[12:14] <kiko> sure
[12:14] <kiko> make lint there won't hurt
[12:15] <kiko> and it particularly doesn't hurt before generating a diff for review
[12:15] <kiko> so when you send me a diff for review
[12:15] <kiko> make lint beforehand
[12:17] <bradb> argh. i'm running make lint on the branch you just reviewed right now and i'm WAITING.
[12:17] <bradb> i know why, baz status, etc. but that doesn't make it any sweeter
[12:17] <bradb> i know that i haven't forgotten to add any files, etc. on this branch. i'm willing to take the risk of committing without status'ing, in this particular case.
[12:18] <bradb> kiko: that's why i'd rather see make lint work after commits. that way i'll wait a long time, but at least it's just once, at the end, rather than for every single commit.
[12:19] <bradb> and, i have to wait for that diff at the end anyway
[12:19] <bradb> since we both make sure to read a diff before sending for code review, etc.
[12:20] <bradb> 4m later, Ctrl-C time
[12:20] <mpt> kiko: It might be worth having make lint run on the files changed from upstream, rather than the files changed from last commit
[12:20] <mpt> and then bundling it with make check
[12:21] <kiko> mpt, yeah, stub wants me to do that
[12:21] <kiko> bradb, baz status takes 4m on your box?
[12:21] <bradb> kiko: yeah, like a lot of people, baz is unbearably slow for me
[12:21] <mpt> only 4m!
[12:21] <bradb> mpt: I Ctrl-C'd :P
[12:22] <mpt> ah, cheater
[12:25] <Lathiat> is it possible to get a list of bugs i am subscribed to
[12:25] <bradb> Lathiat: not yet, but i was about to do something like that last week
[12:25] <bradb> jbailey had mentioned something similar
[12:26] <bradb> need to do some thinking about it though
[12:26] <Lathiat> also https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/1696/ shows the same person subscribed twice
[12:26] <bradb> Lathiat: what were you trying to do right now?
[12:26] <Lathiat> bradb: well im subscribing to bugs im interested in, woudl be nice to be able to get a list 
[12:26] <Lathiat> also if someone is assigned a bug, does the implictly make them "subscribed" or not?
[12:26] <kiko> bradb, just a matter of exposing API to the person's bug page?
[12:27] <bradb> Lathiat: would that include bugs for which you receive mail, but aren't "explicitly" subscribed to them?
[12:27] <bradb> Lathiat: reporters are explicitly subscribed
[12:27] <jbailey> bradb: Of what do you accuse me now?
[12:27] <bradb> jbailey: just mentioned the "bugs i'm interested in report" again
[12:28] <Lathiat> bradb: well, it'd be nice to have a list of all bugs im related too
[12:28] <Lathiat> bradb: perhaps split up
[12:28] <Lathiat> Subscribed
[12:28] <Lathiat> ==
[12:28] <Lathiat> Reported
[12:28] <Lathiat> Assigned
[12:28] <Lathiat> obviously we already have assigned
[12:28] <Lathiat> also a view of all bugs accepted/assigned to a team your a member would be nice
[12:29] <jbailey> bradb: Cool. =)
[12:29] <bradb> Lathiat: sure, i see what you mean; those kinds of goals are useful. i'll continue thinking about it while fixing other things.
[12:30] <Lathiat> also, showing people on a bug who are "subscribed" (reporter, assigned to you?) in the subscribed bit would be nice, perhaps separated from the list of otherwise subscribed people
[12:30] <Lathiat> oh i see the reporter does show up
[12:31] <Lathiat> if your assigned to the bug does that implicitly subscribe you?
[12:32] <bradb> Lathiat: yes
[12:32] <Lathiat> perhaps you shoudl show up in the list then too
[12:32] <bradb> i agree
[12:34] <mpt> Lathiat: That's what I meant before when I was talking about /people/yourself/+bugs -- a general list of "bugs you're involved with", linking to the more specialized lists
[12:35] <Lathiat> mpt: yep, that would be nice
[12:35] <kiko> mpt, that's a grand idea
[12:36] <bradb> right, i'll try and seek that in in the next few days
[12:36] <Lathiat> thanks! :)
[12:36] <bradb> sneak, even
[12:36] <kiko> you sneaker
[12:37] <kiko> bradb, so, are we set for the bike?
[12:37] <kiko> this is great news
[12:37] <kiko> I have a race 2005-11-20
[12:37] <bradb> i'll have to look into rentals, but i'm assuming it shouldn't be hard for me to find them in my 'hood
[12:37] <bradb> the plateau is all bikes
[12:38] <mpt> ok, I'm going home to torture gnome-screensaver
[12:38] <jbailey> Ther'es a bike rental place down Mont Royale
[12:38] <kiko> roxor
[12:38] <kiko> jbailey, and good bikes? I don't want no steenken huffy
[12:38] <jbailey> kiko: No idea.
[12:38] <bradb> jbailey: there must be lots. i just picked up a sweet Rocky Mountain from pignon sur roues
[12:38] <kiko> pignon sur roues!
[12:38] <bradb> (which is on Mont Royal)
[12:39] <kiko> mpt, if you run it on anthem with a nohup..
[12:39] <kiko> ah, too late
[12:39] <kiko> why should I download gaim?
[12:39] <kiko> my computer came with it pre-installed!
[12:39] <bradb> heh
[12:42] <bradb> jbailey: btw, there are two major linux events on both sides of UBZ. Expo TI and SQIL (i.e. Expo "IT" and la semaine qubcoise d'information libre)
[12:43] <bradb> i was being asked last night if Canonical (or something "Ubuntu", anyway) would be interested in representin' at expo ti
[12:43] <Lathiat> also, is there a reason we dont have a 'needinfo' state ?
[12:43] <Lathiat> also some method of marking something "confirmed"
[12:44] <bradb> er, de l'info, not d'info, 'tous cas...
[12:44] <bradb> Lathiat: i haven't yet been able to sell those to the sab
[12:45] <Lathiat> i'll annoy him then ;)
[12:45] <bradb> Lathiat: like you, we recognize how useful that state can be though
[12:45] <Lathiat> because there should be a way to say
[12:45] <bradb> Lathiat: that might help :)
[12:45] <Lathiat> a) 'yeh this is a bug, but im not accepting it yet'
[12:45] <Lathiat> and b) differentiate between 'no one has looked at this yet' and 'waiting for some more info'
[12:46] <Lathiat> a 'confirmed' state might be better as some way of marking somethign as 'is a bug for me too' without makign a comment to that effect
[12:46] <Lathiat> but needinfo should be a state imho
[12:46] <bradb> Lathiat: yep, the goal is clearly useful, IMHO
[12:50] <kiko> and PQM rejects me too
[12:50] <kiko> FUCK YOU PQM
[12:50] <bradb> heh
[12:51] <kiko> in caps because I'm a manager
[12:59] <bradb> kiko: are you going to review this From/Reply-To patch?
[01:00] <bradb> i'd rather not change the bugmail address tonight though, because it's going to break bugmail for people. can we revisit what the bugmail address should be next week?
[01:00] <kiko> yeah,sure
[01:00] <kiko> to both
[01:00] <kiko> you've done lots of good work this month
[01:00] <kiko> congrats
[01:00] <kiko> well, training our QA intern
[01:00] <kiko> to hack all over the tree
[01:02] <bradb> dirty little hacker
[01:02] <kiko> N *  49 Sep 16 Tommie Langley      ( 2.0K) increased organ mass
[01:02] <kiko> it says I will need to buy new pairs of pants
[01:03] <bradb> hm, worth pursuing
[01:03] <bradb> :P
[01:04] <kiko> yeah, apparently all-natural and even vegan-safe, jbailey 
[01:06] <bradb> kiko: for Reply-To: Foo Bar <bugaddress>, what value should "Foo Bar" be?
[01:06] <kiko> could be the person via Malone, perhaps
[01:06] <bradb> ok, i was thinking the same
[01:09] <kiko> johan and I are thinking of starting a spam business
[01:09] <kiko> we have a good idea
[01:09] <kiko> basically we clean out spam lists of people who report spam to NANAE and spamcop and etc.
[01:09] <kiko> that way we can target only people who are safe to spa
[01:09] <kiko> m
[01:21] <kiko> carlos is around!
[01:25] <dilys> Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [r=kiko]  remove more dirty database imports (patch-2428: brad.bollenbach@canonical.com)
[01:44] <bradb> kiko: you've got patchmail.
[01:44] <bradb> i have to step out for a while. bbl.
[01:44] <bradb> er, maybe bbl, that is
[02:03] <dilys> Merge to rocketfuel@canonical.com/launchpad--devel--0: [trivial]  Fix for bug 2296: Broken LInk (system error); the problem was that browser.pofile.POFileView.getPluralFormExpression was fragile. I moved the code to POHeader(), added tests and added an XXX to ensure we keep track of bugs (patch-2429: christian.reis@canonical.com)
[05:40] <sladen> kiko-zzz: not sure how I got there.  It seems that /malone/projects should be a redirect to /projects since the some output appears there
[12:34] <jordi> kiko-zzz?
[01:37] <Luna-Tick> Hello?
[01:39] <Luna-Tick> Well... Just to get my suggestion out to some people who may care, I think it would be a huge advance to the Bounty system if one could 'piggy-back' onto a bounty and add more money to an existing donation. 
[01:40] <Luna-Tick> Well done with Launchpad; I'm off.
[01:48] <mdke> good idea
[02:37] <SteveA> hi
[03:02] <nkour> hi guys
[03:02] <nkour> accidentally I saw https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+sources/gajim/+pots/gajim
[03:03] <nkour> now this is translators for 0.8. 0.8 has French 100% and all the rest of the langugaes there (apart from swedish)
[03:03] <nkour> French   	253  	 253 66.36 percent new, 33.64 percent untranslated   	 2005-09-16  	 Nicolas Velin
[03:04] <nkour> now that guy is just wasting his time as Fr is 100%. can you fix that please?
[03:04] <nkour> and import the pos from the tarball of 0.8.2 ?
[03:04] <nkour> OR at least https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+sources/gajim/+pots/gajim/+edit set text as DO NOT TRANSLATE
[03:05] <nkour> it's your community but who would like to be in the position of Nicolas?
[03:05] <SteveA> hi nkour 
[03:05] <SteveA> i'll forward what you said to the rosetta guys
[03:05] <nkour> hi SteveA  at last
[03:05] <SteveA> they'll probably be relaxing at the weekend
[03:06] <nkour> yes also  Ricardo Prez Lpez wasted 8 hours of his time I guess
[03:06] <nkour> he could also relax
[03:06] <nkour> or spent his time and efforst in a project that needed spanish
[03:06] <nkour> we laready have spanish
[03:07] <nkour> SteveA, can you set DO NOT TRANLSATE in desc?
[03:07] <mdke> nkour, the best idea would be to send an email describing the problem to the rosetta mailing list, it is rosetta-users@lists.ubuntu.com
[03:08] <mdke> they can help
[03:08] <SteveA> that's a good idea.  it is good to make these issues known on the mailing list. i'll also forward this directly to the rosetta developers.
[03:10] <nkour> ok is there a global i18n ML?
[03:10] <nkour> where  I could provide the po so the guys that have rights (I do not have rights in my own project!!!) upload the po?
[03:10] <SteveA> rosetta-users@lists.ubuntu.com
[03:11] <SteveA> that's the place to talk about these issues.  you can also talk to carlos or jordi here
[03:11] <nkour> jordi, ping
[03:11] <SteveA> carlos is just returning from vacation, so i don't think he'll be around until monday
[03:11] <nkour> SteveA, ok
[03:11] <SteveA> http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/rosetta-users
[03:13] <mdke> nkour, they both check that mailing list, so just email there and you will get a response
[03:16] <nkour> mdke, k
[03:16] <nkour> mdke, SteveA can I post without sub?
[03:16] <mdke> no
[03:17] <jordi> nkour: hello
[03:17] <jordi> nkour: strange, the guy who gave us gajim files said those were the latest.
[03:17] <SteveA> hiya jordi
[03:18] <jordi> nkour: there's a few things we can do (besides uploading your new files):
[03:18] <jordi> you can tell gajim translators that the files are in rosetta now and welcome them to use it
[03:19] <jordi> ie, taking over the product and taking care of uploading up to date po files everytime you do a release or whatever
[03:19] <jordi> or you can tell the rosetta translators to do their translators wherever you want
[03:19] <jordi> we don't want to force upstreams into using rosetta
[03:19] <nkour> jordi, they are from svn, but 0.8 is another link
[03:20] <nkour> jordi, ok the problem is this. 0.8 lacks pos we have in tarball
[03:21] <jordi> nkour: do you have a 0.8 branch at all in CVS?
[03:22] <jordi> SteveA: can we easily get rid of branches?
[03:22] <nkour> jordi, yes 0.8.2 branch but I thought you get it from tarball
[03:22] <nkour> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+sources/gajim/+pots/gajim IS BAAAD
[03:23] <nkour> and https://launchpad.net/products/gajim/+series/main/+pots/gajim is better but I would like to press a button and to upload which po I like when we strings freeze svn
[03:23] <nkour> svn trunk*
[03:24] <jordi> nkour: I see. Are you the author of gajim?
[03:24] <nkour> eg. upload manually /only/ the pos I like etc.. atm it seems to get from svn POT/po (or at least I hope that it does so)
[03:24] <nkour> jordi, yes I'm one of the devs
[03:24] <jordi> nkour: would you like to become the owner or gajim in launchpad so you can manage this stuff yourself?
[03:24] <nkour> jordi, the problem is this. I cannot force all ppl to use rosetta
[03:24] <nkour> jordi, yessssssss!
[03:24] <jordi> you'd be able to upload updated files whenever you think it's convenient
[03:24] <nkour> yes exactly
[03:24] <jordi> SteveA: can you help me with that?
[03:26] <SteveA> jordi: i'll take a look
[03:26] <jordi> nkour: wait, I see gajim is already owned by "gajim-devs", which is owned by Christian Bjalevik
[03:26] <nkour> jordi, yes Nufallo, can he pass me ownership?
[03:26] <nkour> I'm in that team but not as owner
[03:27] <nkour> jordi, if that happens it's great. so I can put desc WHAT languages are mantaing outside of rossetta (I cannot force all ppl to use that) and upload the POT and po that need update and accept new langs normally
[03:27] <jordi> SteveA: so the product is owned by the team, and the team owned by this other guy, but nkour is in the team as an admin. Shouldn't he be able to modify the gajim product at will?
[03:28] <SteveA> if you're in the team that is the owner, then you can do all sorts of stuff
[03:28] <SteveA> you don't need to be an admin of that team even
[03:29] <jordi> SteveA: and can this product be assigned to a gajim-devs for translation? ie, only people in that team can translate?
[03:29] <jordi> at least, ubuntu translators should be assigned.
[03:30] <jordi> right now it's completely open
[03:30] <nkour> jordi, yes we wnat that
[03:30] <nkour> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+sources/gajim/+pots/gajim/+edit I'm owner but I get perm denied
[03:30] <SteveA> i don't know how this part of rosetta teams works.  i'd rather get carlos to sort that out, then try to guess how it is supposed to be.
[03:31] <jordi> SteveA: ok
[03:31] <jordi> nkour: can you wait until monday for this?
[03:31] <jordi> it seems christian did something wrong when registering gajim and added that rogue 0.8 series.
[03:34] <nkour> jordi, can you remove gajim project from LP?
[03:34] <nkour> so I can readd
[03:35] <jordi> nkour: possibly not, as it's a package in ubuntu and I think it was created automatically.
[03:35] <jordi> nkour: if you go to https://launchpad.net/products/gajim/+changetranslators can you do anything?
[03:36] <nkour> jordi, yes I can but only GNOME/PLONE/Ubu
[03:37] <jordi> ok. that's a start. Can you for now set it to "ubuntu" and close it?
[03:37] <jordi> https://launchpad.net/products/gajim/+edit can you do anything here?
[03:39] <nkour> jordi, yes I can but it seems i have to use GNOME/PLONE/UBu transla group
[03:40] <jordi> nkour: yes, thats' for now, until we really fix this when carlos is back on Monday.
[03:40] <nkour> jordi, can you remove the svn version and 0.8 version from rosetta and let the ubu package recatch and recreate the entry?
[03:40] <jordi> This will minimise damage.
[03:40] <jordi> nkour: carlos has to do that, I have no perms
[03:41] <nkour> jordi, ok then I Have ubu and closed and at least I do not see ppl losing time for nothing
[03:41] <nkour> hopefully*
[03:41] <jordi> nkour: yeah
[03:42] <nkour> jordi, thanks a lot
[03:42] <nkour> I'll ping carlos
[03:43] <nkour> jordi, if both version are removed and deb gets it from 0.8.2 is it ok then? 0.9 deb will make 0.9 branch in rosetta too?
[03:43] <jordi> nkour: can you access the https://launchpad.net/products/gajim/+edit ?
[03:43] <nkour> jordi, yes nothing useful there
[03:44] <jordi> nope. The "package" pot is always what Ubuntu has. If you want to track newer CVS/SVN versions, you attach them to the series, and you can update that by hand whenever you like (ie, a week before a release, etc)
[03:44] <nkour> ok
[03:45] <nkour> I will do that for 0.9 once we freeze strings. which is not the case so I'll ping caros. in that page you said I can edit but nothing importnat there
[03:45] <jordi> https://launchpad.net/products/gajim
[03:45] <jordi> have a look now
[03:46] <jordi> nkour: what you should do: change the description of the HEAD branch and make it clear people should translate from ther.e
[03:46] <jordi> then upload a tar.gz with the current po and pot files (if you don't know how or have problems, please tell me)
[03:48] <jordi> nkour: see https://launchpad.net/products/gajim/+series/main/+pots/gajim/ I added a note.
[03:48] <jordi> You can edit it if you want to make it better.
[03:49] <jordi> For now, that should help.
[03:49] <nkour> ok you did [DEPRECATED] 
[03:50] <nkour> jordi, I think there is a script that runs everyday to get POT/PO from svn. can you stop that?
[03:55] <nkour> because if such script runs it overwrites work in LP
[03:55] <nkour> I would prefer the scenario you said. update which pot/po I like whenever I like (eg. on strings freeze which is more logic)
[03:57] <nkour> jordi, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+sources/gajim/+pots/gajim/+edit add HERE that YOU SHOULD NOT TRANLSATE that
[04:01] <jordi> I added another note.
[04:01] <jordi> regarding a script, I think you mean the stuff that updates what's in ubuntu into rosetta.
[04:02] <jordi> I can't stop that, we can promote the ranslation of HEAD over that one though.
[04:03] <nkour> jordi, no the desc you added is not good. because I do not know why but we have 11 pos IN the tarball and LP only lists 2
[04:04] <jordi> hmm, it must be outdated.
[04:04] <nkour> jordi, please say: "Do not work on this page at all. See HEAD"
[04:04] <jordi> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+sources/gajim/+pots/gajim/+upload
[04:04] <nkour> orry, you don't have permission to access this page.
[04:04] <nkour> You are logged in as Nikos Kouremenos. 
[04:04] <jordi> if you upload a tar.gz with the updated files (including pot), you should be ok
[04:04] <jordi> fuck
[04:05] <nkour> if you say fuck, imagine what I should say
[04:05] <jordi> if you can prepare me such a tarball, I'll do it for you
[04:05] <nkour> :)
[04:05] <jordi> heh
[04:05] <nkour> you want pot and po listed how in the tar.gz?
[04:06] <nkour> I do not understand why I do not have perm there
[04:07] <nkour> jordi, http://trac.gajim.org/browser/branches/gajim_0.8.2/po/ /me goes to buy a pizza to eat
[06:06] <nkour> jordi, any progress?
[06:37] <jordi> nkour: nope, I've been busy at home
[06:38] <nkour> jordi, k
[06:45] <Kinnison> ciao
[07:47] <jordi> nkour: I think it's done now.
[07:47] <nkour> jordi, wait to c
[07:48] <nkour> jordi, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+sources/gajim/+pots/gajim I see nothing new
[07:48] <nkour> apart from yet another guy who lost his time
[07:48] <nkour> adl (german)
[09:05] <mdke> jordi, that persian rtl problem seems to be real: i sent him the xml file and it doesn't work
[09:08] <mdke> sivang, you around by any chance?
[09:22] <jordi> mdke: I have no experience with that :(
[09:22] <jordi> hmm, danilo didn't reply.
[09:28] <jordi> nkour: can't do anything about that German guy. Bad timing, he did his work at the same time as we were fixing it.
[09:29] <jordi> nkour: if any file is missing please tell me. I think everything is correct though.
[09:30] <jordi> I'm leaving.
[10:01] <bob2> can someone make an adobe acrobat product so I can file a critical bug asking for it to be removed from ubuntu?
[10:04] <Nafallo> bob2: hilarious ;-)
[10:20] <Kinnison> Hey dudes
[10:20] <bob2> hey kinnison
[10:41] <cogumbreiro> lo all
[10:42] <cogumbreiro> i'm serpentine's upstream, I would like to know how can I edit its values on launchpad
[10:56] <Kinnison> cogumbreiro: which values were you meaning?
[10:58] <Kinnison> Do you mean the product entry?
[10:58] <Kinnison> If so, what is your launchpad ID so I can reassign it to you?
[10:59] <cogumbreiro> cool, it's cogumbreiro@users.sf.net
[10:59] <Kinnison> naah, what comes in /people/<FOO> ?
[10:59] <cogumbreiro> ah sorry
[10:59] <cogumbreiro> prolly cogumbreiro, let me check
[11:00] <Kinnison> yep
[11:00] <cogumbreiro> yeah ;)
[11:00] <Kinnison> Any way to prove to me that you are the right person?
[11:00] <Kinnison> (and not someone masquerading as tiago)
[11:00] <cogumbreiro> http://s1x.homelinux.net/projects/serpentine
[11:01] <cogumbreiro> lol, how do i prove it? :)
[11:01] <Kinnison> Can you stuff some obvious message on there for a sec? E.g. "Hi Kinnison" or something
[11:02] <cogumbreiro> ok, on a comment :)
[11:02] <cogumbreiro> wait a sec
[11:03] <cogumbreiro> Kinnison: i'm going to post an entry on my blog about launchpad, wait a few secs
[11:05] <Kinnison> okay, say when you've done it
[11:08] <cogumbreiro> Kinnison: http://s1x.homelinux.net/node/129 if you view its source you'll notice that I've put a HTML comment saying <!--waves at Kinnison--> right on the end of the post
[11:08] <Kinnison> looks good to me
[11:09] <Kinnison> assigned
[11:09] <Kinnison> I hope you enjoy your launchpad experience </marketing>
[11:09] <Kinnison> :-)
[11:11] <cogumbreiro> ehehe
[11:11] <sivang> mdke: now I am, what's up?
[11:11] <sivang> Kinnison: yo -)
[11:12] <cogumbreiro> first I have to learn how to used it and how to benefit from it, the thing that's most appealling is rosetta
[11:12] <Kinnison> heyhi sivan.
[11:12] <sivang> jordi: I see you and mdke looked for me?
[11:12] <segfault> system error trying to open this url: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/hoary/+sources/update-notifier/+pots/update-notifier/pt_BR/+translate
[11:13] <Kinnison> cogumbreiro: jordi is a rosetta dude. You should talk to him :-)
[11:14] <Kinnison> segfault: odd, looks like a double conversion issue. Dunno how to fix that without a rosetta developer, sorry :-(
[11:15] <HWolf> Guys, can I offer a suggestion for Rosetta?
[11:18] <Kinnison> Yes, although it might be better mailed to the rosetta mailing list
[11:18] <Kinnison> (Since the rosetta dev team aren't here right now :-)
[11:18] <Kinnison> Or you can file a bug on rosetta in malone
[11:18] <Kinnison> :-)
[11:19] <HWolf> Kinnison, I need the searchengine to find a specific string in Rosetta, so that I can quickly adjust translations that honestly make me sick. :P
[11:20] <Kinnison> file a bug, detailing the functionality you want, how you'd see it fitting in, and why you think it's worthwhile
[11:20] <Kinnison> that's the best way
[11:20] <Kinnison> but I'm not on rosetta :-)