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venzenerUSUL: how abt samba to share with network?12:00
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erUSULvenzen: well a amn fstab and man mount could had help you 2 years ago ;)12:01
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ninjafishexit12:01
venzenerUSUL: yep :)12:01
ninjafishlol!12:01
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iqbalahey all12:02
mustafuHow to enable multiverse in breezy?  I don't see any lines for it in my sources.list file...12:02
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iqbalai switch my laptop from work to home and everytime i need to run /etc/init.d/networking restart to get the dhcp ip12:02
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erUSUL!tell mustafu about repos12:02
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iqbalaany better way to do it automatically?12:03
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war-totemi have an xserver question12:03
erUSULiqbala: i don't think so. maybe  breezy comes whith network applet?12:04
jxpxwhat12:04
war-totemeverything in ubuntu has been fine but now whne i reboot i get can not connect to xserver12:04
war-totemwhen i sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:04
war-totemit says it is not installed12:04
war-totemam i screwed?12:04
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cafuego_you on breezy?12:04
war-totemno12:05
war-totemhoary i believe12:05
erUSULwar-totem: install it12:05
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war-totemwill all my files be there?12:05
cafuego_'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg' - what does that say?12:05
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LaschWwar-totem: Try to "apt-get install xserver-xorg"12:05
erUSULwar-totem: maybe you have xserver-xfree?12:05
cafuego_war-totem: Hold on, did you have /usr on a seperate partition?12:05
war-totemno12:05
DiffindoI could use some help getting my sound to work...12:05
war-totemno partitions12:05
war-totemits downloading now12:05
war-totembut why would xserve delete itself?12:05
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cafuego_war-totem: it wouldn't normally.12:06
venzeniqbala - caution - if you don't yet know how to update sources.list then you shouldn't install breezy - it's technically unstable12:06
PeakerIf I want to manually download a bleeding-edge version of an ubuntu package, how can I put the "debian/" dir that was generated by ubuntu developers for the previous version? is it safe to just copy it? is there a better way? is it a bad idea?12:06
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cafuego_war-totem: dpkg -l | grep xserver12:06
cafuego_war-totem: what does that say?12:06
war-totemcafuego one sec im downloading it12:06
cafuego_war-totem: (you cna ctrl-c the download)12:06
war-totemthen ill tell you12:06
venzenPeaker what?12:07
cafuego_It's important you run that BEFORE the install of the new one.12:07
erUSULDiffindo: if you told us your souncard model...12:07
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venzendebian/ ?12:07
DiffindoAudio: C-Media Electronics CMI9761 (OSS Mixer) <- I get no sound12:07
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war-totemgrep lists xserver-common, xserver-xfree8, xserver-xorg12:07
DiffindoVIA 823712:07
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cafuego_war-totem: Okay, I suspect you used to have xserver-xfree86, not xserver-xorg12:08
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war-totemso download xserver-xfree86?12:08
erUSULrun alsamixer12:08
jontizapt-get iinstall windows xp12:08
cafuego_war-totem: Nah, go with xorg, works fine12:08
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cafuego_(and marginally faster)12:08
erUSULwar-totem: better xserver-xorg12:08
war-totemcafuego will my files still be there?12:08
Syco54645how can i disable sudo and enable my root account in ubuntu?12:08
DiffindoerUSUL: you talkhing to me?12:08
cafuego_war-totem: Yes, they should be.12:08
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cafuego_Syco54645: Why would you do something as silly as that?12:09
Peakervenzen: I created a patch of amarok, unfortunatly I did it on the "apt-get source" version of amarok, instead of the latest version12:09
erUSULDiffindo: yes what alsamixer tells tou?12:09
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war-totemrebooting12:09
Peakervenzen: I want to patch the latest version and install it, but it has no "debian/" dir (wasn't debianized)12:09
cafuego_war-totem: rebooting?12:09
erUSULSyco54645: why do you want to do that?12:09
Peakervenzen: The question is if it is possibly safe to use the "debianization" of the latest ubuntu package of "amarok"?12:09
zeroth_How do I lock my computer?12:09
Syco54645cafuego, because i really dislike sudo and have been using linux for years... so i am hard to change12:09
war-totemcafuego i finished downloading it i guess12:09
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venzenPeaker: sorry can't help :)12:09
Peakervenzen: k, thanks12:09
LaschWSyco54645: Try "sudo su -" and then run "passwd" to get a root password12:09
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cafuego_Syco54645: Seta password for root via sudo, disabling sudo is a bad idea, though.12:10
venzen!tell peaker abt patching12:10
erUSULSyco54645: use anther distri ubuntu is designed to run whithout root12:10
Syco54645cafuego, why i didnt use sudo in years past12:10
sdaliI corrupted my filesystem when a IDE cable went bad on my computer so I ran fsck manually, and it fixed the problem (allowing me to log in), but in doing so it hosed some files so that I can no longer use synaptic to install pkgs. Each time I try to install ANY pkg I get a "missing newline" error. Does anyone know how to get past this? I'm thinking I need to remove and re-install synaptic.12:10
Syco54645erUSUL, that is very gentooish of you...12:10
cafuego_Syco54645: Neither did I, you get used to it pretty quick, though.12:10
zeroth_Nvm.12:11
Peakervenzen: I didn't get told...12:11
cafuego_yeah, set the NO_SUDO USE flag and rebuild the system *snort*12:11
test34Syco54645,  you can still use the root account after you enable it12:11
zeroth_How I edit setting for my SCREENSAVER? :)12:11
Syco54645cafuego, i dunno, i would rather just have good old su.  i just was tired of gentoo's bs and emerge was getting on my nerves12:11
erUSULSyco54645: i've never used gentoo.. ;)12:11
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venzenPeaker: tried man diff?12:11
iqbalathere is nothing like networker daemon like in fedora12:11
iqbala?12:11
zeroth_God, nvm. I'm tooo lazy.12:11
cafuego_Syco54645: 'sudo passwd' ought to set a root pass, as soon as that's set, you can use 'su'.12:11
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cafuego_Syco54645: The X admin tools all depends on sudo though, so I'd leave it in place.12:12
war-totemcafuego thanks a lot for your help, it works now, but can you advise how to never have that happen again?12:12
venzeniqbala - redhat is strange..12:12
iqbalain fedora i could just plug it to any dhcp network it could get an IP12:12
cafuego_war-totem: Not without knowing what caused it12:12
Syco54645cafuego, ok, i just would rather have root enabled so i can break stuff better ;)12:12
venzeniqbala that's like me in ubuntu!12:12
Syco54645thanks for the help12:12
erUSULSyco54645: sudo -s will do the trick. A root shell :D12:12
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Syco54645oh and i figured out what was wrong with my drive12:12
Syco54645that i thought was dead12:12
DiffindoOkay...12:12
war-totemcafuego all i was doing previously is installing fluxbox themes and messing with the way aterm looks12:13
Syco54645if you will remember i was running on the live cd for a few months12:13
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DiffindoI have my speakers turned on...12:13
naliothcafuego_: i have a question12:13
iqbalaso i cant get an IP when i plug it to a dhcp network unless run networking manually ?12:13
DiffindoI ran alsamixer12:13
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venzeniqbal: top panel>admin>networking and then restart interface12:13
cafuego_nalioth: go on ...12:14
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drapelykAnyone: How do I install Java Plugin for Firefox on Ubuntu?12:14
iqbalavenzen yeah but that would be doing it manually12:14
DiffindoHow can I test my sound?12:14
cafuego_drapelyk: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java12:14
naliothcafuego_: previously you pointed me to a script that would allow me to seperate ID'd users by color12:14
cafuego_Diffindo: With ears and music12:14
erUSUL!tell drapelyk about java12:14
Diffindoer...12:15
Diffindoright12:15
naliothcafuego_: it stopped working. have you any ideas why?12:15
cafuego_nalioth: The issi script, yep12:15
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Syco54645i tried to get files off of the drive yesterday and it just locked when i would mount it, so i said screw it and went to fdisk to just partition it and see if that would help.... well its an 80 gig drive and for some reason i had a 41 meg (boot) partition, a 78 gig (/) partition and a 6 gig swap partition... since i only set the swap to 768 megs when i set up gentoo i would say my partition table got a little mucked up... needless to s12:15
Syco54645ay i am using the drive and it is working quite fine for the past 3 hours.  before i ran fdisk it would work for about 20 minutes and give a dma error.12:15
florghi, can i install kde after a standard installation of ubuntu?12:15
Syco54645that wasnt a paste!12:15
cafuego_nalioth: Did you get dis/re connected and not run '/QUOTE CAPAB identify-msg' ?12:15
venzeniqbala: yep but not too much hard work, eh? afterall you got up and plugged in the cable.12:15
naliothcafuego_: i can run it from the beginning and nothing12:15
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cafuego_nalioth: Peculiar. Let me check on irssi here12:16
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DiffindoStill now audio12:16
Diffindono*12:16
jontizplugg in12:16
iqbalavenzen: not a complain..just wondering "if" it can be done automatically12:16
erUSULDiffindo: run ls /dev/snd/12:16
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cafuego_cafuego__: hey12:17
iqbalai was just looking for a yes/no answer :-)12:17
naliothhowdy12:17
cafuego_wibble12:17
venzeniqbala: seen :)12:17
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naliothcafuego_ dribbles12:17
cafuego_nalioth: I bet they've changed the format string in the server code.12:17
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DiffindocontrolC0  pcmC0D0c  pcmC0D0p  pcmC0D1c  pcmC0D1p  timer12:17
naliothcafuego_: any idears on how to fix?12:17
erUSULDiffindo: how have you tested sound12:17
erUSUL?12:17
Diffindoyes12:17
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Diffindostill nothing12:18
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naliothcafuego_ dribbles his coffee12:18
cafuego_Hmmm, coffee.12:18
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naliothcafuego_ butters his toast12:18
cafuego_Well, it LOOKS like it's still just a + prefix12:18
DiffindoSigh...12:19
erUSULDiffindo: have you got two sound cards?12:19
DiffindoNo12:19
DiffindoOnboard12:19
Madeyeguys is it safe to use universe, and multiuniverse with breezy now?12:19
venzennalioth are you in the room with cafuego?12:19
cafuego_nalioth; Ah, I forgot to run /quote capab before :-P12:19
cafuego_nalioth: Works OK now here.12:19
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floppyearshi12:19
floppyearswhat's the command to generate a random password ?12:19
venzenMadeye: breezy is unstable - ie nothing is safe12:19
naliothcafuego_: not working here12:19
erUSULDiffindo: how have you tested sound?12:19
cafuego_nalioth: WHich irssi version you on?12:20
XorlevAlright, I'm trying to setup an IPv6 tunnel, but its not working too well, and I have 6 packet errors. Where would I find the logs for a certain device?12:20
inthenowdid half life the game ever get ported to linux?12:20
naliothIrssi: Client: irssi 0.8.9 (20031210 2316)12:20
Syco54645which kernel is breezy on?12:20
cafuego_identical, should work fine.12:20
naliothvenzen: i dont understand? we are all here together12:20
cafuego_nalioth: Is the script loaded OK?12:20
Syco54645kernel version that is12:20
naliothcafuego_: it reports loaded (it's in autorun)12:20
erUSULXorlev: the logs are in Var/log/messages12:21
venzennalioth: oh, yeh, true that12:21
erUSULinthenow: no12:21
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DiffindoCd Player12:21
floppyearsanybody know how to generate random passwords ?12:21
inthenowerUSUL: does it run in plain wine?12:21
DiffindoerUSUL: Cd Player12:21
naliothcafuego_: i'm not seeing + signs, i'm seeing ~user12:22
inthenoware there any good free 3d linux games?12:22
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erUSULDiffindo: and have you tried whith a mp312:22
Diffindonow12:22
Diffindono*12:22
venzenfloppyears: go top panel>system>admin>users> and when editing or creating new user you have a button to do random passwd12:22
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cafuego_floppyears: pwgen or somesuch; apt-cache search password generator12:22
erUSULDiffindo: maybe the cable for cd playing is not plug correctly12:22
floppyearsvenzen: no, I want to create a random password so that I can use that for personal use12:22
Diffindooh helll12:22
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DiffindoThere were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///media/cdrom0/AeroSmith%20-%20I%20Don't%20Want%20to%20Miss%20a%20Thing.mp3", you might need to install the corresponding plugins12:23
cafuego_floppyears: bash your head on the keyboard a few times, sue that12:23
naliothcafuego_: perhaps i could go and change all + for ~  in my script?12:23
floppyearscafuego_: hehe I like that idea12:23
floppyearscafuego_: thanks pwgen did it :)12:23
venzenfloppyears: ok, follow cafuego's advice - i like apt-get install revelation12:23
erUSULDiffindo: you have multiverse an gstreamer-mad instaled12:23
naliothcafuego_: on my client, ~clients aren't IDd12:24
Diffindowhut?12:24
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floppyearsvenzen: I had used apt-cache search, but I guess I didn't use enough keywords :)12:24
DiffindoWell...12:24
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BlueEagleAnyone know why the installer attempts to load the floppy module three times?12:24
imnowmecafuego_, Holland?12:24
boogiewelcome to ubuntu mofos!!!12:24
erUSULDiffindo: you have multiverse an gstreamer0.8-mad instaled12:24
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naliothboogie: please be civil12:25
erUSULDiffindo: multiverse is the repo12:25
DiffindoI have the IDE cable from CD Drive, would I need the audio cable that goes to my sound card?12:25
naliothDiffindo: if you want to use the cdplayer app, yes12:25
boogieDiffindo: no12:25
DiffindoelUSUL: I don't have any clue what multiverse is...12:25
boogiedepends if the application can extract the music digitally12:25
erUSULDiffindo: to listen to audio CD (no data) yes12:25
DiffindoI just barely installed12:25
cafuego_imnowme: That's a country in europe.12:25
erUSULDiffindo:  if you are listen to mp3 in a data cd no12:26
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segosai've just turned 18 and i don't feel different. how boring. people suck.12:26
imnowmeare you from there, that's what i was asking12:26
erUSUL!tell Diffindo about repos12:26
ds[de] segosa: lol what did you expect?12:27
Diffindothat's it, I'll just pirate XP and use ubuntu for servers12:27
segosanot much really. :p12:27
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segosabut usually people are all 'omg you're legal now haxhax'12:27
segosabut then when you think about it, there's nothing i can do now that i couldn't before.12:27
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ds[de] exactly12:27
boogiewhere i live girls are legal at 16, not 1812:27
segosaand i'd prefer to be young.12:28
ds[de] that is, if you didn't care for the law before12:28
segosamore time to learn shit12:28
ds[de] me too12:28
naliothboogie: Diffindo: those topics belong in #ubuntu-offtopic, please12:28
ds[de] and you're not responsible (so much)12:28
segosaheh12:28
segosayeah12:28
segosanow if i do something stupid online i could go to jail. damn12:28
boogiewomen are tight at 16-1812:28
erUSULDiffindo: try sudo apt-get install beep-media-player gstreamer-plugins gstreamer0.8-mad12:28
CarlFKboogie - you have been warned12:29
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neighborleeboogie, this topic does not belong here..please take it to: #ubuntu-offtopic12:29
segosaheh12:29
segosano one warned me12:29
CarlFKyer smart enough ;)12:29
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ds[de] hehe12:30
boogieCarlFK you're not even a mod, lol12:30
segosathere's no such thing as a mod on irc. 12:30
cafuego_boogie: Don't assume because they're not on the channel they're not watching you.12:30
boogieyou don't have @12:30
cafuego_boogie: That's a famous last mistake.12:30
cafuego_boogie: Ops here fdon't idle with an @ on the channel, but they ARE here.12:31
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boogiealrighty then12:31
naliothcafuego_: flarbling script SOB12:31
cafuego_nalioth: Still no joy?12:31
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naliothcafuego_: /me read the fine manual, and found other options12:32
cafuego_boogie: op presence should be the ONLY reason for you not to behave like a teenager though.12:32
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cafuego_should NOT be the only reason...12:32
KyralAnyone know a good interface to IpTables?12:32
CarlFKheh - I was wondering about that logic12:32
sdaliI found a "solution" to my problem. I moved /var/lib/dpkg/info to info_moved, ran synaptic to install anything I could find (acct pkg). It worked, so I moved the acct info files to info_moved, and then moved the whole dir back to info. Voila. I can now install pkgs without getting the "missing newline error". Sheesh.12:32
erUSULsdali: congrats12:32
sdali:)12:32
ds[de] which source do I have to add to /etc/apt/sources.list to be able to install azureus via "sudo apt-get install azureus"? apt-get says it can't find the package now12:32
cafuego_Kyral: for a desktop box? try firestarter. nice and easy.12:32
naliotheveryone in channel should act in a civil fashion12:32
CarlFKKyral - I use shorewall.  ot sure I would call it "good" but it works and seems to be popular12:32
Kyralcafuego, I'm not running a "standard" box12:32
naliothKyral: who is?12:33
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artjermynanyone have any luck installing the latest java in breezy?12:33
KyralI run SSHD during the day so I can remologin from the computer labs and FreeNX12:33
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CarlFKfor a desktop box, just don't install any servers ;)12:33
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naliothcafuego_: do i have to /set ID nick color every time i use this bloody thing?12:33
cafuego_that way I cna blame myself when I mess up, not a bug in a script.12:33
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erUSULCarlFK: i tried shorewall but it blocked my dns resolution :( i'm using fireHOL12:33
cafuego_nalioth: not if you run /save once after you set it.12:34
KyralI basically wanna throw a rule into place that will deny all SSH connections that do not come from my campus' IP block12:34
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CarlFKerUSUL - what did you expect a firewall to do, let everything in and out? ;)12:34
spacey Kyral /etc/hosts.allow if i'm not mistaken12:34
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naliothcafuego_: whatever that did12:34
Kyralso I'd put XXX.XXX.*.*?12:35
cafuego_nalioth: The format strings are stored in the save file, if you didn't save after setting 'em, it can't store 'em ;-)12:35
erUSULCarlFK: well it have to let me browse the web... XD12:35
spaceyKyral, `man hosts.allow`12:35
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cafuego_Clarkson.edu is 128.153.0.0/1612:36
Kyral....12:36
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KyralDo I wanna know how you found that out...12:36
spaceylooking at netblock owner ?12:37
prenticeI currently have two screens. On the second, I remove all panels, and everything is great until I logout/login again. Gnome rebuilds the default panels for the screen. Is there a way to disable this?12:37
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erUSULprentice: have you tried save current session in the log out dialog?12:38
TokenBadok I installed the kde desktop12:38
TokenBadnow question12:38
prenticeNope. That sounds like a good idea though. I'll try.12:38
TokenBadwhen I go to have it do the background slide show thing12:38
TokenBadand pick files off the mounted drive12:39
TokenBadsays can only use local files12:39
TokenBadso whats going on with that12:39
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moparfan90hello whats a good window manager thats easy to use and fast?12:39
cafuego_Kyral: "up /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -s ! 128.153.0.0/16 -p tcp --dport 22 -j REJECT"  in /etc/network/interfaces 9under eth0) would see you sorted too. it'd get reloaded each boot.12:39
naliothmoparfan90: xfce4, enlightenment, fluxbox, and on and on12:39
apokryphosmoparfan90: lighweight window managers include enlightenment, fluxbox12:39
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Kyralis that nine in front of the under supposed to be there12:40
apokryphosnalioth: I think xfce's WM is called something else, isn't it?12:40
Kyraland should I sudo that?12:40
cafuego_Kyral: That rule would block all tcp traffic to port 22 if it didn't originate at 128.153.0.0/1612:40
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erUSULmoparfan90: windowmaker12:40
boogieenlightenment e1712:40
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cafuego_Kyral: only rhe bit inbetwene the double quotes is relevant12:40
cafuego_in between12:40
Kyraloh I also had lokkit active12:40
Kyralwould this override the rules or...12:40
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mooxHi ! Is there many differences between gnome 2.10 and 2.12 ? I saw the screenshots but nothing seems very different12:41
cafuego_Kyral: This would currently be appened, so it would probably not override anything.12:41
naliothapokryphos: i only know xfce412:41
prenticeerUSUL: good idea, but it didn't work.12:41
boogie2.12 has a menu editor12:41
naliothcafuego_: waaaaah, now my nick won't hilight lol12:41
mooxboogie, Yes12:41
cafuego_ALso try "iptables -t nat -a PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 22 -j MIRROR"  if you feel like being a BOFH12:41
moparfan90what do you think is the best one????12:41
mooxboogie, but gnome 2.10 too if you install the right packag12:41
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prenticegnome seems to reimport the default panels if no panels exist for a screen. make since as a safety feature.12:42
TokenBadanyone know what would cause that in kde?12:42
erUSULprentice: i don't have to manitros so...12:42
cafuego_(That would allow them to log in on their OWN box without realising ;-)12:42
apokryphosnalioth: aha, xfwm -- that's it.12:42
naliothmoparfan90: try them all and use what you like12:42
boogie amsn CVS supports webcam, horrraayyy!!!12:42
cafuego_nalioth: It's not monday yet, why are you having issues? ;-)12:42
naliothcafuego_: what's monday? lol12:42
KyralDo I stick those under the Primary Network Interface line?12:42
erUSULmoparfan90: best for whom? it always dependes on personal taste12:42
apokryphosKopete svn has full webcam support, horray! 8)12:42
KyralI'm using Ubuntu's default network file12:43
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boogieapokryphos - you tried it?12:43
cyphase_Gaim has full webcam support, horraayyy!12:43
cyphase_wait..12:43
cyphase_no it doesn't12:43
cafuego_nalioth: mondays traditionally suck12:43
cyphase_:)12:43
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apokryphosboogie: haven't actually; I've been delaying latest svn for my new computer, which just got delayed last week12:44
Kyralcafuego, where do I put that line again?12:44
naliothcafuego_: i've lost track of mondays many years ago (seems i've always got 7dayaweek jobs12:44
apokryphoscyphase: maybe one day ;-)12:44
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pippin-What is the best IRC client ever?12:45
boogiemirc12:45
CarlFKbx12:45
tdnCan I get XnView on Ubuntu?12:45
pippin-bx sucks, mirc sucks12:45
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cyphase_XChat is pretty good12:46
tdnpippin-, are you trying to start a religion war?12:46
boogiemirc IS irc12:46
pippin-tdn hehe, hell no12:46
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tdnpippin-, irssi12:46
pippin-xchat is good gui client12:46
pippin-irssi is good term client12:46
naliothirc client discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, please12:46
erUSULpippin-: Chatzilla12:46
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pippin-Chatzilla is stupid web java IRC12:46
boogiegaim supports irc no?12:46
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mooxIrSSi12:46
pippin-yea gaim supports IRC in the latest version I think12:46
pippin-so is trillian12:46
pippin-xircon is a great IRC client too12:46
cafuego_Kyral: "up /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -s ! 128.153.0.0/16 -p tcp --dport 22 -j REJECT" in /etc/network/interfaces associated with the iface eth0 stanza.12:47
[FiDO] has anyone tried to run Ubuntu with Microsoft Virtual PC12:47
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pippin-but I love epic, and irssi12:47
boogietrillian new version is quite nice12:47
cafuego_[FiDO] : I sued to run Debian in that on the Mac, works fine.12:47
[FiDO] ubuntu isn't displaying right for me12:47
pippin-boogie I didn't upgrade mine12:47
[FiDO] colors are all messed up12:47
Kyraland where do I put that BOFH one (because I do enjoy being a BOFH :D)12:47
pippin-boogie what is the latest ver of trillian and does trillian works in linux?12:47
erUSULpippin-: *javascript* not java12:47
cafuego_in X? Oh, I nevere did run X12:48
mooxI saw somewhere Xen will be in the next ubuntu. What is the utility of Xen for desktop use ?12:48
pippin-erUSUL yea that's it12:48
[FiDO] it installed fine but the gui is screwed12:48
boogieno trillian is windows only which really sucks, latest is 3.1 i think12:48
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pippin-I checked to update trillian, it said no upgrades are available.12:48
fmasiHelo I am a gentoo user and i want to merg my descktop system to ubuntu. But i would like to know what would be the inplications of instaling 5.10 instad of 5.04.12:48
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pippin-so I might have the latest version aight?12:48
boogie#gentoo12:49
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boogieoh sorry12:49
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mooxfmasi, no support for 5.10 yet12:49
pippin-no need to be sorry12:49
KyralWould be very funny to redirect them to thier own SSH port :D12:49
Kyraljust the kind of irony I enjoy :D12:49
fmasibut is ther enny know problem whith 5.1012:49
cyphasea lot of bugs12:50
cyphasewell, not to many..12:50
cyphasebut it isn't done12:50
fmasiwould it be mutch bether to install 5.04 ? or 5.10 its ok12:50
cyphase5.0412:50
cyphasewell12:50
cyphase5.10 is ok12:50
Hergiswibrb, rebotoing12:50
Hergiswirebooting, even12:50
mooxfmasi, or wait until 5.10 release12:50
cyphaseif your willing to play around with it in the event of bugs12:50
pippin-moox12:50
boogiemonica lewinski is studying in my uni next year, shame i'm leaving, lol12:51
DewDudebreezy has been nice the entire time i've been running it12:51
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cyphasesame here12:51
cyphaseexcept for a probem with X12:51
fmasiand how is the update system of ubuntu whoul i nead to reinstal every thing from scratch if i install 5.04 ?12:51
DewDudei got finally got the graphical bootprocess today after i apt-get upgrade and decided to reboot12:51
cyphasebut i've been vnc'ing in, so i don't have the problem :)12:51
boogiethe preview release is not too bad12:51
Kyraltime to drop the interface and load up the new one12:51
DewDudewell, my box is a toy anyway12:52
DewDudei could care less if it dies12:52
DewDudei got the main one sittin next to it12:52
KyralIt isn't taking the line, too many parameters12:52
fmasii am use to update every thing whith gentoo and never nead to get new cds will ubuntu be like that too ?12:52
mooxdoes anyone compare ubuntu and linspire ? Which of them are best for desktop ?12:52
neighborleemo12:53
boogieno12:53
boogielinspire?12:53
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robertbblol12:53
mooxlindows12:53
neighborleemoox, depends on ones needs I suppose but generally speaking ubuntu wont bite so much of your pocketbook but takes a tad more fine tuning for some things..but hey free works fo rme and it a great community ( so its linpsire but hey )\12:53
naliothmoox and company, please take your comparisons to #ubuntu-offtopic12:54
fmasihate that dows sufix12:54
boogielinspire is useless, if you want a real easy distro try Xandros12:54
bdt1805hey everyone, Im fairly new to linux, and I am wondering which filesystem would be best for a 20gb hdd.12:54
TokenBadanyone here use kde with ubuntu?12:54
nalioth#ubuntu-offtopic has fireproof fixtures, so y'all can talk to yer hearts content12:54
naliothbdt1805: ext312:54
naliothTokenBad: yes, lots12:54
delire_moviebdt1805: ext3 is a good safe bet12:54
boogieext3 is reliable - but slow12:54
neighborleeboogie, xandros has its own problems similar to linspire just different ones.. linspire is far from useless12:54
delire_movieboogie: compared to what reiserfs4?12:55
CarlFKbdt1805 - the defaults are a safe bet12:55
boogiedelire_movie - compared to everything according to the last comparison i saw12:55
mooxok, need2sleep! see ya12:55
TokenBadnalioth, I installed kde to use..and was going to use the slide show option for the background...but when tried to pick backgrounds from my mounted drives..says can only pick local files...why does it not let me pick the mounted drive..even though gnome and xfce did?12:55
delire_movieboogie: link please12:55
boogieXfs is also faster than ext312:55
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ompaulneighborlee, boogie moox please take the conversation to the channel #ubuntu-offtopic so this place can be used to help12:55
fmasii am use to update every thing whith gentoo and never nead to get new cds will ubuntu be like that too ?12:55
boogielet me look for it12:55
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Logtimehello12:56
bdt1805is xfs stable?12:56
LogtimeNo targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.12:56
CarlFKfmasi  yes12:56
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Logtimehelp :)12:56
Logtimehelp :)12:56
LogtimeNo targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.12:56
erUSULKyral: run the iptables rules you want and when you are done run12:56
erUSUL'/etc/init.d/iptables save active' and the rules will besaved and activated on12:56
erUSULevery boot12:56
CarlFKLogtime stop indeed.12:56
cafuego_bdt1805: The font server? Yes. The filesystem? Not here.12:56
bdt1805logtime youve got to run ./configure12:56
fmasiso it will change a gnome 2.10 to 2.12 easy easy right?12:57
delire_movieboogie: no doubt you are talking about high end hard-disk recording or similar. ext3 on a disk with DMA will not be noticeably slower than any other fs for nearly any normal daily application.12:57
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ompaulfmasi, once you install it should never need to be, but it is not a new version every day it is develop release maintain while maintain goes forth new develops happen12:57
CarlFKfmasi - thats the plan ;)12:57
Kyralyah but I wanna know how to implement that rule that turns all denied SSH attempts back on the attempter12:57
Syco54645when updating to breezy, once apt is done does it reboot the system automatically12:57
Syco54645because if not im gonna go get some food12:57
KyralI know like nothing about iptables :P12:57
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neighborleeompaul, I had no intention to carry it on any further, so to not allow someone to falsely acuse a given distro of being 'usesless'12:57
apokryphosSyco54645: it doesn't12:57
boogiehttp://fsbench.netnation.com/12:57
Logtimebdt1805, i ruinned ./configure12:57
Syco54645apokryphos: ok thanks12:57
cafuego_Syco54645: Of course not. WHy would it need to reboot?12:57
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Syco54645cafuego: new kernel :P12:57
TokenBadnalioth, any idea?12:58
cafuego_Syco54645: Ah, no.. that's a manual job :-)12:58
apokryphosSyco54645: it can run on the old of course though12:58
Syco54645apokryphos: yeah i know12:58
Syco54645well i am out for food12:58
Syco54645thanks for the help guys12:58
bdt1805you prbably dont have the right compiler12:58
naliothTokenBad: if the drives are mounted properly, they should be "local" drives12:58
fmasiCarlFK so its ok if i put the 5.04 and use an update system. Do you think i should install the 5.10 direcli or use 5.04 and then update ?12:58
cafuego_damn this yiddish spam!12:58
Logtimec compilier12:59
Logtimeno?12:59
naliothTokenBad: try symlinking your folder of pix into your homedir12:59
TokenBadwell I could access the files and everything in gnome and all that12:59
delireboogie: that doesn't say ext3 is slower, just more demanding.12:59
bdt1805logtime: sometimes they use gcc, etc12:59
TokenBadbut only in kde is it now giving me trouble12:59
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Logtimeyes gcc i installed it12:59
boogiedelire let me find the one i saw last time12:59
cafuego_fmasi: There is funtionally no difference between those two. One means downtime, the other doesn't.12:59
test34where can I stop the clock synchonization at bootup ?12:59
bdt1805check the requirements and download everything it tells you, it will tell you in the readme file usually12:59
CarlFKfmasi - my guess is you should install 504 and wait till 5.10 is ready12:59
Logtimesomeone try to compile gftp12:59
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delireboogie: and xfs, like reiserfs is solid for heavy and specific I/O applications, like large file transfers.01:00
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crimsunLogtime: sudo apt-get build-dep gftp01:00
cafuego_or insert a 5.10 CD in a 5.04 box and it'll ask you if you would like to upgrade now.01:00
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fmasiCarlFK ok when is 2.10 gona be ready enny idea ?01:00
crimsunLogtime: then you'll need to add libssl-dev, too01:00
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cafuego_delire: Otoh, with many small files, it's _slooooow_01:00
Logtimei did apt-get source gftp it's the same crimsun ?01:00
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delirecafuego_: exactly. eg normal daily use01:01
cafuego_fmasi: 2.10 has been in Ubuntu 5.04 since it released, 6 months ago.01:01
CarlFKthe x.y is the date - Oct 0501:01
dhonnhow do i fix the apt-get "dependancy hell" problem?01:01
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Kyralcafuego_, that line about the redirecting the denied SSH probes won't affect my legit ones?01:01
fmasiCarlFK ok so it may take some time i gess01:01
crimsunLogtime: "apt-get build-dep gftp" != "apt-get source gftp"01:01
dhonni try to install a dependancy and it asks me to install another and another01:01
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dhonnand another01:01
cafuego_Kyral: It will if you use the faulty rule I posted01:01
cafuego_Kyral: .. so don't use that one :-)01:02
ompauldhonn, dependancy hell never seen it you must be doing something I am not01:02
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Kyralhow would I implement it so it would return send the denied attempts back at them?01:02
deliredhonn: it sounds likely that you have a broken sources.list.01:02
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dhonni think it all started when i installed something01:02
erUSULdhonn: well apt shoul have avoided the "dependancy hell" it works here (tm)01:02
cafuego_dhonn: What did you install? Soemthing designed for another Ubuntu version and/or Debian?01:02
deliredhonn: something third party, perhaps.01:02
sybariteni'm back, maybe someone remember me from yesterday, with a broken iMac01:02
ompauldhonn, what was it you installed, and how did you install it?01:03
fmasiCarlFK i am looking forward to test ubuntu becouse i have a entreprise whith some frinds and whe only whork whith linux so we are looking for a easy desktop sistem for oure por windows clients01:03
dhonni guess ymessenger01:03
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KyralWait I think I know01:03
bdt1805anybody, I have a question about hardware support, does x.org automatically support hardware acceleration for radeon cards?01:03
deliredhonn: best to stick with the Ubuntu designated repo's. dependencies and versioning is regulated very tightly.01:03
cafuego_Kyral: Use the exact same rule, but use '-j MIRROR' instead of '-j REJECT'01:03
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jamie_1Hi ppl01:03
Kyralyah01:03
Kyralthats very evil01:03
venzenfmasi: so you chose the correct distro01:03
KyralI love it :D01:03
cafuego_ymessenger is known to be broken01:03
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dhonnman01:03
dhonnwhat do i do to fix it now01:04
cafuego_Kyral: It is. I usedit to redirect back orifice and MS SQL worm requests01:04
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dhonnremove it?01:04
ompauldhonn, what delire said - gaim which is installed by default does the job you want done01:04
cafuego_dhonn: yes01:04
deliredhonn: yes01:04
fmasiand since i have gentoo at my server at home i want to chenge from suse to ubuntu for my leptop01:04
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jamie_1Hello, I have a question: Where do I start building a program on Kubuntu?01:04
venzenfmasi : use hoary and then reinstall breezy when it is officially released01:04
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Kyraland it will autoload everytime eth0 is activated right?01:04
cafuego_!ymessenger is broken, use gaim instead.01:04
ubotucafuego_: okay01:04
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deliredhonn: sudo apt-get remove ymessenger01:04
cafuego_Kyral: if it's in the interfaces file, yes01:04
fmasiwe i maby do that but i lasy whith instalations01:04
Kyralvery nice01:04
fmasiwel, used to gentoo instaling01:05
erUSULjamie_1: in a terminal emulator, maybe konsole?01:05
fmasitakes ages01:05
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tashiromdz: Hi, I saw that you're the maintainer of mythtv. It seems that the packages are broken on the powerpc arch. There are mythtv-frontend and mythtv-backend missing.01:05
test34nevermind, I found it: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate01:05
KyralI'm gonna have to find out what ports I do use, then set the rest to mirror the attacks back :D01:05
venzenfmasi - ubuntu is fast - 30 - 40 mins01:05
cafuego_Kyral: it's not the ideal way for a complex firewall, but with a single rule, it works fine.01:05
jamie_1erUSUL: konsoile, going to look now01:05
naliothtashiro: they're not missing. build them with apt-get01:05
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Kyralcafuego, yah01:05
fmasia that ok compared to the 5 houres i take whith gentoo01:05
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allenHi everyone01:05
Kyraland I assume it will let FreeNX through?01:06
sybaritenthe livecd has no "toram" option does it ?01:06
Kyralwhat port does FreeNX use anyway...01:06
venzenfmasi - be sure to make a seperate /home dir and then you can install new ubuntu versions and keep your home01:06
cafuego_Kyral: Yes, it ONLY affects incoming non-lcoal ssh01:06
fmasiwhat i dont like in suse is that ther is no apt nether portage so its arg to instal softwers01:06
tashironalioth: Thanks, yep that can I do. Nevertheless they are missing in the repo :-)01:06
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dhonnso ymessenger for debian woody is broken on Ubuntu?01:06
fmasithats a good idea01:06
bdt1805ok one more question, where to go for practice exams on the A+ OS exam?01:06
venzenfmasi - new ubuntu version +- every 6 months01:06
fmasihow mutch space thas the ubunto instalation take ?01:06
naliothtashiro: there are lots of powerpc binaries not available in the repos01:06
cafuego_dhonn: Yes. Do _NOT_ use debian apckages on Ubuntu. Especially such old ones.01:06
ompauldhonn, anything for woody should stay there01:06
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deliredhonn: consider all debian woody applications broken on Ubuntu given they are not officially supported.01:06
jamie_1erUSUL, in konsole..... so how do I build the actuall program? waht kind of programming does it take?01:06
erUSULjamie_1: what  file format comes the package in?01:07
naliothdelire: consider all debian pkgs broken on ubuntu01:07
venzenfmasi: standard install abt 4Gb01:07
delirenalioth: yes01:07
naliothjamie_1: depends on what you want to build01:07
jamie_1erUSUL: File format?01:07
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fmasivenzen is ther alots of pakages for ubuntu or not as meny as in gentoo01:07
jamie_1nalioth: A Star Trek game..........01:07
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ompauldhonn, if it don't say ubuntu and you are not told to use it here then I would say Stay away!01:08
erUSULwhat program do you want to build?01:08
cafuego_fmasi: 2GB normally. More if you add more stuff.01:08
jamie_1erUSUL: Star Trek game01:08
venzenfmasi I'm not sure - but ubuntu has a LOT - and always up to date01:08
erUSULjamie_1: and what files you have downloaded?01:08
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cafuego_!dstats hoary01:08
ubotuUbuntu Distro Stats on hoary... 16270 packages, 1437 maintainers, 31005 MB installed size, 9820 MB compressed size.01:09
fmasivenzen nice then01:09
Kyralthe rule isn't firing up..01:09
jamie_1erUSUL: I have no idea01:09
cafuego_fmasi: would 16,270 be enough?01:09
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venzenhehe01:09
TokenBadnalioth, figured it out...it was a stupid mistake on my part01:09
Kyraliptables: No chain/target/match by that name01:09
KyralFailed to bring up eth0.01:09
sportmanhey01:09
sportmanim trying to instal vmware01:09
ompauldhonn, whatever about rpms working on various distros causing hell - the pain happens faster and with much more speed with .debs01:09
fmasivenzen gentoo takes tomutch time and space for a desktop01:09
sportmanand it says What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running01:09
sportmankernel?01:09
boogiedo you guys prefer kubuntu over mepis? lets be honest01:09
sportmanwhat would the location be?01:09
sybaritenhow do you reset a freakin iMac ?01:09
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cafuego_Kyral: Does it work when you run it by hand?01:09
erUSULjamie_1: so you want to build the game out of thin air??? XD01:09
ompaulboogie, stop trolling01:09
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chavosportman, did you install the kernel headers?01:09
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sportmani dunno01:10
cafuego_sybariten: via the reset button if it's old and by holding power if it's new01:10
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jamie_1erUSUL: yup. out of thin air........ talk in PM01:10
sportmani just went thorugh the vmware installer01:10
bdt1805is it just me or is the 5.10 preview release of ubuntu really unstable...01:10
sportmanand this is where i am01:10
sportmanlol01:10
venzenfmasi - i don't know gentoo, but ubuntu fits your specs: easy, stable, practical01:10
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chavosportman, if you had them installed ,the vmware installer would find them01:10
sportmanahh01:10
sportmanso no ...01:10
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sportmanlol01:10
sportmanhow can i do this?01:10
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fmasivenzen and what about the kde suporte i just changed from kde to gnome so i may one day use kde for one thing or another01:10
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cafuego_fmasi: Ubuntu includes KDE an optional extra01:11
Kyralcafuego_,  iptables: No chain/target/match by that name01:11
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sybaritencafuego: i dont know where the reset button is ...  its an iMac01:11
chavosportman, install linux-headers-x , where x is your kernel version01:11
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sybaritenthere is a power button on the keyboard but it doesnt do much right now. maybe becayse the machine is crashed01:12
chavosportman, also, did you install gcc?01:12
venzenfmasi - well you can install kde packages and they will run from the kde (qt) libraries - so no problem - but gnome is the bomb for everyday office/collaboration01:12
fmasii have an oficial x86 5.04 cd at home but my leptop is an amd64 aaaa01:12
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boogiepwned01:12
fmasii like the look of gnome01:12
cafuego_fmasi: that will run fine.01:12
venzenye01:12
boogiegnome is getting better, but still no where near kde01:12
fmasibut its bether to put the 64 vertion no ?01:12
sportmanyea01:13
cafuego_boogie: Would you mind laying off the trolling now?01:13
venzenthat ole chestnut01:13
sportmangcc is installed01:13
fmasior is ther no big difrence01:13
BlueEagleboogie: Many consider that (lack of bloat) a good thing.01:13
cafuego_fmasi: Not if you want to use video, watch DVDs and play flash/java in websites.01:13
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allenwhat does the command  "sudo apt -get" mean?01:13
boogiedepends - if you want the amd64 version then realise there are hardly any working drivers for it01:13
lundnercan somebody tell me where the downloaded apt-get packages are saved?01:13
chavosportman, you need gcc-3.4, the same version the kernel was compiled with01:13
ompaulboogie, so go to a kde channel and leave the rest of the people in piece you are doing that rubbish in front of over 400 people and it does not look smart or clever01:13
fmasicafuego_ so where would be the difrence ?01:13
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cafuego_sybariten: What iMac? A coloured one or a new white one?01:13
chavolundner, /var/cache/apt/archive01:13
lundnerthanx chavo ;-)01:14
BlueEagleallen: sudo is "super user do" (do something with root privileges) and apt-get is a way of manipulating packages.01:14
venzenfmasi - don't hesitate install the version you have!01:14
cafuego_fmasi: amd64 doesn't yet support most video codecs and flash.01:14
deliresybariten: iMacs are designed to be so simple they are impossible to use at times.01:14
boogieno madwifi for amd64 either01:14
chavomine is current'y ~2.6Gb01:14
chavoI need to clean it up :)01:14
allenwhy do i get this message when I try apt? "01:14
allenlundner thanx chavo ;-)"01:14
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fmasiso its no whorth tu put the 64 vertion01:14
BlueEagleallen: To look it up in the manual try 'man sudo' and 'man apt-get'01:14
cafuego_Kyral: try -J REJECT instead of MIRRRO and see if that helps (maybe you don't have mirror target support)01:14
venzennot yet?01:14
allenok01:15
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deliresybariten: i have struggled to find the reset button in the past also. it's on the right-hand side from memory.01:15
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boogieno you will have problems with the amd64 version, i went back to the i38601:15
Kyralcafuego, REJECT worked01:15
dhonnthanks guys my ymessenger problem is fixed01:15
cafuego_fmasi: If you don't have it handy and you want to be able to sue flash and watch videoes, use x86. If you don't care, use amd64. Up to you.01:15
deliredhonn: anytime01:15
dhonnhey how do i install firefox 1.5 beta 1 using apt?01:15
fmasiyou pepole are very very nice theks aloooooot. I gona take microsofrt out of the marked in recife - brasil01:15
cafuego_Kyral: Okay, kernel doesn't have MIRROR enabled. Ohw ell :-)01:15
BlueEagleallen: Always a good idea to look up a command before trying it. That way you won't blow away your whole system when someone gives you the command to remove all files as root just to joke. :)01:15
venzenfmasi - 64bit support will grow but the available packages are so much less than the hoary cd you have01:15
ompauldhonn, you stick with the version that is for your disto and relase01:16
fmasiok01:16
Kyralcafuego, how easy would it be to recompile the kernel to do that :D01:16
boogiedhonn - you don't need apt for firefox, just unzip it to a directory01:16
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fmasiubuntu the windows exterminator lol01:16
cafuego_Kyral: Easy enough, but probably not worth it.01:16
venzenfmasi - anossa01:16
allenwhy do i get this message when I try apt? "command not found"01:16
chavodhonn, you can use the tarball to run Firefox, but it might mess up your profile01:16
ompaulnalioth, pm01:16
boogieapt not installed?01:16
punkassanyone have freenx installed on breezy?01:16
cafuego_allen: 'apt' is anot a command.01:16
fmasiwhat is anossa ?01:16
venzenallen: apt is not a command: apt-get01:16
dhonnthats not easy01:16
naliothompaul: of course01:16
allenok will try again01:16
boogielike: apt-get install kde01:17
reikiwell I think I found the problem with my mic not working to record. I have a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card. It has a Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 chipset but apparently the card itself isn't well supported in linux. Ohwell... sound works... I can use an external tuner for tuning my flutes01:17
Kyralcafuego, next time I recompile my kernel remind me to do that :D01:17
Kyralor is there a module...01:17
venzenfmasi - apologies- my attempt to say cheers in portuguese01:17
cafuego_Kyral:  :-)01:17
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cafuego_bom dia?01:17
boogiereiki - i also have a turtle beach - the analog output works fine01:17
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venzenque pasa01:17
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boogiedigital output doesn't01:17
cafuego_och, niet veel.01:18
reikiboogie: I can hear the mic through the speakers. I just can not get it to record01:18
P0S3Rhei all01:18
venzenun pocito eh?01:18
jamie_1um.... does anyone know much about writing games from ground up and what code to use?01:18
fmasii suposed it was some thing lake wou but was not sure if it was in portuges or amerian lol :) but thx for the efort01:18
delirereiki: i've found this site an excellent resource for configuring cards and knowing the extents of support. http://alsa-project.org/01:18
Cry_Ubuntu_MacHey guys, where are the program files stored in linux? I wanna execute something in terminal but xmms doesn't work by itself.01:18
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venzenpor nada01:18
boogiejamie_1 - you want to write games in what language?01:18
jamie_1boogie: thats the problem.... I have no idea01:19
Logtimeyou must add the public key of your self signed CA to your OpenSSL certs directory.01:19
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Cry_Ubuntu_MacSo I wanna navigate to where I can see it.01:19
venzenCry: locate xmms01:19
KyralThey should make kernel recompilation as easy as sudo dpkg-reconfigure <kernel>01:19
jamie_1Boogie: I know NO programming languages..........01:19
boogieif java - look at java 3d, if c++ i have no idea01:19
fmasicafuego_ whare have you bean to01:19
cafuego_Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: All over the place, but normally in $PATH (echo $PATH). xmms won't work until you install it.01:19
allenhow do I run this file to install j2re "jre-1_5_0_05-linux-amd64-rpm.bin"?01:19
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reikidelire: thanks... I've been stomping around on that site. I *might* have something misconfigured, but nothiing I've tried gets the mic working. Sound works fine though01:19
D1can anyone recommend an ident server for ubuntu?01:19
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crimsunD1: oidentd01:19
BlueEaglereiki: Not familiar with that particular chip, but I think turtle beach were well supported with OSS (Open Sound System), however OSS is now obsoleted by alsa and depreciated but OSS is still availible in the kernel.01:19
D1does it work out of the box?01:20
kevogodDoes anyone here use Banshee?01:20
fmasiIs ther enny one that is going to lacfree200501:20
delirereiki: ok cool. does this page have something for you? click on the driver for your card. http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Turtle_Beach#matrix01:20
naliothboogie: you were asked when you joined the channel to act in a civil manner01:20
D1by the way, xchat gnome is pretty spiffy.01:20
sybaritenheres a key question for me:  if i try to install ubuntu over a broken install on my mac ... will i be able to do that without formating the drive? in other words, can i do this without losing the 40 gb of movies i collected under ubuntu ?01:20
venzenfmasi where will it be held?01:20
cafuego_fmasi: I did some work for Camargo Correa in So Paulo and at a property they own; no idea where that was, flew to it in a private jet at night.01:20
delirereiki: .. no doubt you've probably been here by now ;)01:20
Cry_Ubuntu_Maccafuego I installed it, and there is a shortcut to it in the apps. It wont start right, so I wanna run it in terminal to see the errors.01:20
naliothsybariten: what's broken about it?01:20
fmasiRecife01:20
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Logtimeyou must add the public key of your self signed CA to your OpenSSL certs directory.01:20
Logtimehow01:20
boogiejamie_1- start learning java - pick up the oreilly book 'learning java' - then move on to c++ which is what you need for games development01:20
fmasicafuego_ whow nice01:20
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erUSULcafuego_: there is no mirror target suport in 2.6.13 do you used an out of tree patch?01:21
cafuego_Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: dpkg -L xmms | grep bin01:21
boogie java is too slow for games - if you are serious about it01:21
crimsunreiki: the turtle beach works fine. Which mixer elements are unmuted and selected in alsamixer's capture view (F4)?01:21
fmasiLAC free will be in recife brasil01:21
cafuego_fmasi: yes, it was :-)01:21
fmasimy city01:21
venzenBrasil is rocking the open source!01:21
deliretrue01:21
sybaritennalioth: well. i removed gnome panel because gnome complained when it started up. Then i discovered that there is no net connection any more, so i cant apt-get gnome panel back in there.01:21
jamie_1boogie: I am trying to write a Star Trek game...... graphical01:21
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boogiebrasil has lots of hot punani01:21
fmasiand i gona fock windows01:21
reikidelire: yeah... it says it's just the cs 46xx driver which IS loading and working for sound. I'll keep at it. :)01:21
sybaritennalioth: it started with a shut-off i think01:21
sportmanhow do i find my kernel version?01:21
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naliothsybariten: use "apt-cdrom" to rescue yourself01:21
cafuego_fmasi: Well, the bit about having to sit on a plane from Melbourne to Sao Paulo for 18 hours, then work right away, then fly back sucked quite a lot.01:21
crimsunreiki: recording works fine with it. Please answer my question.01:21
zorba64sportman: uname -a01:21
punkasssportman: uname -a01:21
sybaritennalioth: is that a program of its own ?01:21
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BlueEaglesybariten: gnome-panel is not responsible for your net connection.01:22
titaniumwould anyone mind helping me test an ftp server really quickly? it was working a while ago and suddenly it's broken again. just need to confirm it's my end and not the remote user.01:22
fmasicafuego_ yes i gess01:22
BlueEaglesybariten: What does ifconfig say?01:22
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sybaritenBlueEagle: i know that ...01:22
reikicrimsun hold... lotta things happeing here at once. Appreciate the help though... starting alsamixer again01:22
fmasicafuego_ i have bean to tasmania01:22
sybaritenBlueEagle: uhm basicly i think it has no IP on the card01:22
cafuego_nalioth: cheers01:22
fmasiv my stepmather is from Australia01:22
erUSULjamie_1: you are trying to write a game whithout any knowledge of a programing lenguage? forget it01:22
kevogodtitanium, OK01:22
BlueEaglesybariten: have you got a dhcp server on your network?01:22
CarlFKtitanium - what do you need in the way of ftp test?01:22
BlueEaglesybariten: ..or are you dialing up?01:22
fmasicafuego_ I thinking to go leav in Australia inthe future01:22
cafuego_fmasi: the coldest and wettest bit of Australia <heh>01:22
Cry_Ubuntu_MacI don't get an error.01:23
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reikicrimsun: mic and mic1 both are labeled capture, but ... I get no ability to raise volume on them01:23
sybaritenBlueEagle: i have a dhcp server ....01:23
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jamie_1erUSUL: what language?!?01:23
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fmasicafuego_ i loved it01:23
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venzenjamie: erUSUL is right - but you can learn with a book or online tutorial - LinuxFormat ran a good series on SDL game programming01:23
fmasicafuego_ My fqthers famly is from france01:23
reikicrimsun: also Capture and Capture1 are toggled as capture and volume 100%01:23
cafuego_fmasi: Yeah, tasmania is nice & clean. I've been there one, for a week, just driving around. Loved it.01:23
fmasicafuego_ and whe are maby all gona go to australia01:23
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BlueEaglesybariten: have you set up your firewall to block communication on the port dhcp and dhcpcd uses?01:24
cafuego_fmasi: Australia is slowly going to hell in a handbasket though, the government is destroying it.01:24
crimsunreiki: are you trying to record from the input jack (line in) or the mic?01:24
jamie_1verzen: where would I find a Linux book I wouldn't fall asleep on?01:24
delirecafuego_: i was glad to get out of there for this reason.01:24
fmasicafuego_ The thing is that Australia and Brasil ar a bit far away01:24
cafuego_fmasi: it's only 18 hours ;-)01:24
reikicrimsun: I believe the mic is plugged into mic :)01:24
kevogodLearn Ruby.01:24
venzenjamie_1: www.oreilly.net01:25
Cry_Ubuntu_MacThanks for the help, guys. I think there is something wrong with the installation, because it neither runs nor gives errors.01:25
erUSULjamie_1: do you want a list of known programing lenguages... it can take ages... ;)01:25
cafuego_delire: must .. destroy .. system .. from within ...01:25
delirehehe01:25
fmasicafuego_ That can change australia have god pepole and thats what maters the moust01:25
jamie_1lol cafeego01:25
fmasicafuego_ 18 thats realy not alot lol01:25
crimsunreiki: then you need to unmute mic, capture, and ADC01:25
cafuego_fmasi: Yes, I would have previously thought so, but the re-elected the bastard.01:25
jamie_1venzen..... what the heckk01:25
venzenhehe01:26
crimsunreiki: obviously mute the ones you're not trying to capture01:26
fmasicafuego_ Where do you work ?01:26
venzenyou want to programme01:26
Cry_Ubuntu_MacHey, does xmms run natively in gnome, or does it need a graphical frontend program?01:26
sybaritenblueeagle: the ubuntu machine was ticking along happily for days and days, this just happened. I cant even reach my firewall at the moment ... but thats another story01:26
cafuego_now i just think they're mainly racist conservative rednecks01:26
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cafuego_fmasi: I live & work in melbourne.01:26
BlueEaglesybariten: did you try running sudo dhclient eth0 (where eth0 is the name of your ethernet card)01:26
reikicrimsun : mute in alsamixer?01:26
fmasicafuego_ But in usa they do it worst they elected bush 201:26
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venzenCry: graphical frontend01:26
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fmasicafuego_ You just nead to find a way to kill the bastard01:27
sybariteni think i did that a couple of times yesterday yes ....  with weird error messages. but i'll have to get back to you on that, because i'm trying to boot a livecd right now01:27
Cry_Ubuntu_Maccafuego_ Don't think we're proud of it. Im damned ashamed to be around peope who would vote for that man.01:27
sybaritento see if i can even get the machine to work01:27
bdt1805i have a question for everyone, how would I enable DMA on all my IDE drives?01:27
sybaritenand guess what, gnome problems01:27
cafuego_fmasi: Ours is bush's girlfriend. Maybe you've seen him on tv, Looks like Gollum, but wears glasses and looks as if he needs to go to the toilet all the time.01:27
BlueEaglesybariten: I see. :)01:27
crimsunreiki: or any mixer01:27
erUSULCry_Ubuntu_Mac: beep-media-player looks nicer with gnome01:27
jamie_1venzen: yeah. program01:27
venzensyba: one by one01:27
naliothsybariten: boot your machine to the console, and use apt-cdrom to fix yourself01:27
delirecafuego_: do you remember "The Wombles?"01:27
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fmasicafuego_ kkk you realy dont like him01:27
sybaritennalioth: i havent even found a good way to boot a ubuntu machine to a plain console01:28
ompauldelire of wimbleton common are we?01:28
cafuego_delire: nevers een 'em, I grew up in Holland and only moved myself here 8 years ago.01:28
fmasicafuego_ How is the open source going in Australia01:28
delirewhy of course ompaul01:28
Cry_Ubuntu_MacSo xmms is actually running. That's why I get no error. But I have no frontend and thus no actual visualization for the player.01:28
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sybaritenvenzen: heh, how do you mean ?01:28
cafuego_fmasi: linus just had his trademark application rejected.01:28
reikiCrimsun: ADC was toggled to NOT capture01:28
erUSULbdt1805: less /etc/hdparm.conf01:28
reikicrimsun but was not muted01:28
delirecafuego_: had you grown up with the wombles you would find howard a slightly more disturbing figure.01:28
crimsunreiki: it needs to be captured01:29
fmasicafuego_ in brasil  the government is helping alot01:29
naliothsybariten: when your machine gets up (as far as it gets) hit ctrl-alt-f301:29
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venzensybariten: you want to use hdparm - man hdparm01:29
cafuego_fmasi: here they would like to give Microsoft as much power as possible, i think. Tragic.01:29
crimsunreiki: all three of capture, mic, and ADC need to be unmuted and captured01:29
Cry_Ubuntu_MacerUSUL I'm trying to get a particular plugin that requires xmms.01:29
Logtimeou must add the public key of your self signed CA to your OpenSSL certs directory.01:29
cafuego_at least I can't be blames, coz I'm not allowed to vote01:29
fmasicafuego_ We dont have monay for microsoft so that wy they help linux lol01:30
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reikicrimsun: THANK YOU!  the ADC piece was the pice I was missing!01:30
venzenCry: do you have a menu entry for xmms under top panel>Applications>Sound&Video ?01:30
sybaritenuhm, is there an english gnome error message that goes something in the way of this? "an error occurred while starting the gnome-preferences-daemon. somethings such as themes and sounds [...]  wont work allright. the preferences daemon was restarted too many times. gnome will still try to restart the preferences daemon the next time you log in"01:30
fmasicafuego_ I gona try to change all 200 computesr at my unoivercity to linux01:30
Cry_Ubuntu_MacVenzen Yes I do.01:30
sybaritenthis was translated from swedish01:30
fmasicafuego_ gona try edubunto one day01:31
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jamie_1Does anyone know where I can find a game programming language book that me as a 14 year old can read without falling asleep on?01:31
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sktrdiewhat's the real difference between Xorg and Xfree86?01:31
lundnerno hamie_1 ;-)01:32
cafuego_sktrdie: the license01:32
sybaritennalioth: ok ... and then apt-cdrom ... with the PPC cdrom install cd in the drive.  would it be harmless to do some sort of apt-get remove gnome, apt get install gnome ?01:32
cafuego_fmasi: nice :-)01:32
reikicrimsun : I just now almost blew my wife out of her chair on playback from the mic... hehehe... thanks man. Now I can use a frequency analyzer when tuning flutes01:32
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BlueEaglejamie_1: "game programming language"?01:32
fmasicafuego_ gona be hard but i will try01:32
sktrdiecafuego_ the functions is exactly the same?01:32
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fmasicafuego_ i think they get money to use microsoft01:33
jamie_1Blue Eagle: yup01:33
ompaulsybariten, killall nautilus may help if not bonobo-slay in a console - both of these can and will kill your gnome session01:33
Cry_Ubuntu_Macvenzen: I don't understand why I can't run it.01:33
wolkihi!01:33
delirejamie_1: well Python, Ruby and Lua are often used in game programming.01:33
ompaulsybariten, in a lot of cases01:33
erUSULsktrdie: Xorg is a fork of xfree that keeps going xfree86 got stuck when the fork acurred01:33
naliothsybariten: you can try whatever you like01:33
BlueEaglejamie_1: First you would want to find out what kind of game (and on which platforms) you would want to make it for. The choice of lanugage is somewhat limited by those two factors.01:33
sybaritenompaul: ok01:33
naliothsybariten: breezy will be out oct 13 and you and apt-cdrom your way to a dist-upgrade of the whole box01:33
ptlojamie_1, you could try python (very nice dynamic programming language) along with pygame (modules for 2d/3d/sound/events support)01:33
wolkiis there a way to find all invalidly coded filenames?01:33
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jamie_1BlueEagle, Star Trek game, and for both windows and linux01:34
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delirejamie_1: i would look into PyGame as a good framework for beginners.01:34
nilezonneed some help with my synaptics/alps touchpad (sony vaio laptop). and yes, i've tried the forums. pls msg me01:34
erUSULjamie_1: almost all serius games are written in C or C++ try kdevelop01:34
sybaritenjamie_1: i too would reccommend python - its the language i'm trying to learn  :)01:34
BlueEaglejamie_1: "Star Trek game" doesn't really say alot. You could make an AD&D2 game about Star Trek tbh.01:34
fmasiey how do i register my nickname i never used irc before :(01:34
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BlueEaglefmasi: Doesn't the bot tell you how?01:35
Cry_Ubuntu_Macwhat's the command to see running processes?01:35
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apokryphosCry_Ubuntu_Mac: top01:35
wolkifmasi: info on the freenode page01:35
fmasidident read it all01:35
fmasiok01:35
nilezonCry_Ubuntu_Mac, ps -A01:35
ompaulfmasi, /msg nickserv register <your password here>01:35
jamie_1all that answered to me, thanks, but any really highly recommened ones over all teh others?01:35
reikiyou guys know who Baby Joe Macey is?01:35
BlueEaglefmasi: Well, reading it all might be a good idea.01:35
nilezonneed some help with my synaptics/alps touchpad (sony vaio laptop). and yes, i've tried the forums. pls msg me01:35
venzenreiki: nope01:35
Cry_Ubuntu_MacBoth good answers. Thank you. Also, top is so cool.01:36
fmasidoing it right now01:36
ompaulCry_Ubuntu_Mac, you will find lots of great cool things01:36
venzenreiki who is he?01:36
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jimsI'm a newbie looking for some help with MPlayer.  I installed Real10, then installed Mplayer for Firefox, When viewing .mov or .avi, it displays the window, loads the file, but nothing displays...any suggestions?01:36
reikivenzen: it's off topic... but my wife just came home from a pub and Baby Joe moved over one bar stool to let her sit down. He's a boxer01:36
sybaritenok ... so ... i'm in some sort of broken gnome right now, this time booted from live cd. how do i easily get into a plain console ?01:36
delireCry_Ubuntu_Mac: try pstree for a tree of parent-->child processes.01:36
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sybaritenand get rid of X01:36
nilezondoesn't get much response here :(01:36
apokryphosubotu: tell jims about w32codecs01:37
cafuego_or 'ps -f'01:37
venzenreiki vs Ali?01:37
lundnertry vlc @jims01:37
TokenBadwell out of the 3 gui interfaces I have tried in ubuntu..the one i like is kde01:37
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fmasiwell thx for every thing gona go nead to fix some stuff01:37
fmasiby by01:37
ompaulCry_Ubuntu_Mac, do this: xev in a terminal and see how much info happens when you move a mouse or type a key01:37
cafuego_sybariten: ctrl-alt-F1 will give you a console01:37
BlueEaglejamie_1: You might want to setup vo=xv in the mplayer configuration file.01:37
reikivenzen: no... Baby Joe is much too young to have gone against Ali :)01:37
lundnerbut i don't know if it plays .mov files @ jims01:37
jamie_1BlueEagle: vo=xv?01:37
sybaritencafuego: thanks01:37
jimsLunder: I followed the Forum page on installing codecs, I think I loaded about 6-7 of them...01:37
venzen:o)01:37
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naliothsybariten: you are not gonna be able to fix with the livecd, i dont think01:37
Cry_Ubuntu_MacHey! I killed a process! Yay!01:38
BlueEaglejamie_1: Yes. If you read the manual page you would see that it specifies mplayer to use xv for video output.01:38
venzenGo Cry!01:38
BlueEaglejamie_1: if that doesn't work try vo=gl201:38
BlueEaglejamie_1: also try mplayer -vo help01:38
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jimsYes, I changed the file to default to 'xv'...01:38
nilezonanyone who can help me with disabling tapping on my laptop ... need help... badly01:39
sybaritennalioth: ok maybe not ...  actually i just wanted to see the iMac boot into a non-broken state with the liveCD. Very surprising that i get gnome errors there too ....  when gnome has been running happily in the installed environment, before01:39
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BlueEaglejamie_1: "file default"?01:39
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Cry_Ubuntu_MacSo yeah. xmms is running, just not being all with the working on my desktop.01:39
reikinice... mic working in Audacity too.... can't thank you enough, crimsun. This is a big deal to me. :)01:39
jamie_1BlueEagle: You lost me a couple ago01:39
Toba|Laptopwhat do you guys suggest to use for wireless?01:39
mik3does the apt system upgrade the kernel too when new versions come out?01:39
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Toba|LaptopI'm using wired right now but I'd like to use my wifi01:39
grodiusCan you use GTKpod to actually play music on your ipod??01:39
naliothsybariten: that IS surprising01:39
Cry_Ubuntu_MacNevermind. It worked this time.01:39
TokenBadanyone else here have a fav gui interface?01:39
naliothmik3: yes it does01:39
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walterme01:40
delireToba|Laptop: do you mean for surfing access points?01:40
grodiusAnyone know if gtkpod can play music straight from your ipod?01:40
Toba|Laptopno, for using with WPA01:40
walteroops - that's what I get for trying to type a command into the console while opening a channel01:40
nilezonipw2200 (centrino) works01:40
Toba|LaptopI need drivers for my card01:40
nalioths_doggrodius: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.01:40
Toba|LaptopI already have wpa_supplicant01:40
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Toba|Laptopis madwifi any good or do I need to get ndiswrapper?01:40
delireToba|Laptop: i wrote my own application to handle all this, but it is non-gui01:40
jamie_1BlueEagle, PM?01:40
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sybaritenits as if i burned some hardware or something, inside the fucking mac01:41
delireToba|Laptop: there has to be something in gnome that looks after WPA01:41
HanCan I update from hoary to breezy by adding an entry for breezy to /etc/apt/sources.list?01:41
naliothsybariten: language please01:41
Toba|LaptopI have a d-link g630 with the atheros chipset01:41
grodiusnalioths_dog i said it twice, the first was phrased in such a way that someone seeing it may think i was talking to someone else, so i added anyone. Relax- i only said it twice01:41
sybaritenfreaking01:41
BlueEaglejamie_1: Let me add you to my whitelist.01:41
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BlueEaglejamie_1: ok, you can /msg me now.01:41
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delireBlueEagle: the social firewall ;)01:42
nilezonplease, need help to disable tapping on my touchpad ... cant really use the mouse now... anyone?!!01:42
ubuntu_newbieCan someone help me with question on the livecd?01:42
venzenask01:42
naliothcafuego_: this is crazy: the dog gets hilighted but not me...01:42
delirenilezon: is it a synaptic touchpad?01:42
nilezonyes01:42
allenhow can I install java runtime envrionment in my pc?01:42
nilezonthink so01:42
BlueEagledelire: Well, that script has been obsoleted by the requirement to register if you want to /msg, but still got it running.01:42
apokryphosHan: yes01:42
erUSUL!tell allen about java01:42
Hanapokryphos, cheers01:42
apokryphosubotu: tell han about upgrade2breezy01:42
ubuntu_newbieI've booted with the livecd and used gaim, set to log my convos. How do I get to the log?01:42
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nilezondelire, what's the difference between synaptic and alps??01:43
delirenilezon: 'qsynaptics' may help, but ironically you need a mouse to use it. grab an external and give it a go.01:43
delirenilezon: i have never worked with an alps.01:43
nilezonok01:43
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nilezonqsynaptics uses x86free01:43
delirenilezon: or perhaps i have and just didn't know it.01:43
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nilezoni've only got xorg01:44
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sybaritenok now i'm gonna reboot the mac, into the (broken) HD install. What i wanna do now is just ssh into it, so i can look into the problems remotely without having to sit and type on that useless keyboard . What do i boot into? SHould i type something ?01:44
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delirenilezon: you're right. hmm just a moment. there are userland configuration tools.01:44
erUSULubuntu_newbie:  .gaim/logs/01:44
ubuntu_newbieAnd I can't open the ramdisk icon on my desktop. Why would that be?01:44
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delirenilezon: tpconfig?01:44
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nilezondelire, "synclient -h" says that no tp is found01:44
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delirenilezon: problematic.01:45
venzenubuntu_newbie: its virtual memory01:45
grodiusAnyone know why often when I connect my iPod it isnt noticed by the system and doesnt do the "do not disconnect" dialogue? sometimes it works, sometimes not01:45
nilezoni think that the driver isnt loaded01:45
robotgeeknilezon: is it a powerbook?01:45
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Vespolihello01:45
nilezonno, sony vaio01:45
drfunkanyone know a good site or info source for ndiswrapper   i cant get it to fire up with my zd7000 pavilion laptop01:45
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inthenowwelcome01:45
inthenowubuntu loves you01:45
Vespoli:)01:45
grodius!YEAH01:45
ubotugrodius: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about01:45
nilezonit worked to change the synaptic settings to disable tapping with hoary, but breezy doesnt use the drivers01:45
Vespolibtw what version should I get01:45
delirenilezon: hmm01:45
VespoliI am confused by this 5.10 preview thingy01:46
ubuntu_newbieBut since I booted from the cd where is .gaim/logs? It can't write to the cd.01:46
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venzenubuntu_newbie: its all stored on the ramdisk...!01:46
inthenowVespoli: its works...Its breezy..if you have sata i think you have to use reiser partitions01:46
naliothubuntu_newbie: it is writing to the ramdisk01:46
ubuntu_newbieThat's what I thought but I can't open the ramdisk icon on my desktop.01:46
erUSULubuntu_newbie: open a terminal and run ls -l .gaim/logs01:46
nilezon"synclient -h": No touchpad found, Do you use a newer kernel than 2.4?01:46
grodiusOk. AN ipod connected will put the icon for the drive on the desktop, and the ipod will display a "do not disconnect" message. This happens to me some of the time, but often, my ipod will continue to charge and not actually connect to the system.01:46
Vespoliuhh its a crappy $799 laptop XD01:46
naliothubuntu_newbie: send off the logs via network, if you want to keep them01:46
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VespoliCompaq Presario 2100us01:47
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naliothubuntu_newbie: they should be in ~/.gaim/01:47
Vespolino sata lmao01:47
nilezondelire, "synclient -h": No touchpad found, Do you use a newer kernel than 2.4?01:47
VespoliI wish :-P01:47
Cry_Ubuntu_Macsweet x201:47
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inthenowVespoli: itll probably be fine for you01:47
Vespolibut back to the original question -- which ISO should I get ?!?01:47
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Vespoli5.10-preview? ?01:47
Vespolihttp://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/ ?01:47
DiffindoI'm trying to move a file into /usr but the permissions won't let me.. I can't figure out the terminal commands to create the directory... Help!01:47
inthenowVespoli: ya i have no prob with it01:47
venzenubuntu_newbie: erUSUL gave the answer: you gotta navigate via the console01:47
delirenilezon: you will need 2.6.* to use the synaptic driver as shipped afaik01:47
tonkarsomebody knows wich permissions should have the apache server content files?01:47
drylawi have ubuntu running on a g3 imac 233mhz, how do i go about installing tuxpaint?01:47
tonkarwww-data?01:48
Vespoliahh the "preview" thing scared01:48
tonkari mean,01:48
Vespolime I thought it was like a tech demo01:48
Vespolirofl01:48
erUSULDiffindo: what are you trying to do?01:48
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nilezondelire, i use 2.601:48
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Cry_Ubuntu_MacIt works! It works! muahahahaha!01:48
Vespoliwhat is the default kernel ?01:48
DiffindoI'm trying to move an executable bin file into /usr/java so I can install Java01:48
nalioth!tell drylaw about synaptic01:48
delirenilezon: set 'MaxTapTime=0' option in your xorg.conf to kill the tapping btw - when you have evdev and the driver loaded that is.01:48
venzendrylaw: sudo apt-get install tuxpaint01:48
Vespoli2.4 or 2.601:48
tonkarwich user should maintain the apache content files,01:48
inthenowdrylaw: apt-get update or update get install tuxpaint or to search the package database do apt-cache search tuxpaint or use the gui package manager called synaptic under system01:48
ben66can anyone recommend a easy to use firewall for linux01:49
ubuntu_newbieI did that command and got back 0 files. BTW, shouldn't I be able to open the ramdisk on my desktop?01:49
naliothdrylaw: read what ubotu sent you01:49
VespoliDiffindo, noooooooo just link it01:49
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Vespoliben66, sure -- iptables01:49
sybariteni am standing at the ubuntu login prompt. since i will want to do some silly network commands, and theres no point in seeing the gnome errors again .... can i somehow just go to a console now ?01:49
Vespoli:-P01:49
naliothben66: firestarter, but a firewall is not needed in linux01:49
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VespoliI have never used a firewall01:49
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nilezondelire, maxtaptime=0 and tapbutton1=0 in my xorg.conf, but the driver isnt loaded, so it doesnt work01:49
DiffindoVespoli: Pardon?01:49
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Cry_Ubuntu_MacHey, who knows stuff about kernels?01:49
naliothsybariten: ctrl-alt-f301:49
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inthenowsybariten: alt F1-F601:49
nilezon"synclient -l" shows that maxtaptime=001:49
VespoliCry_Ubuntu_Mac, maybe people in #kernel-developers01:49
Diffindois that ln -s etc etc...01:49
ben66i just dont want to spend a lot of time playing with conf files01:49
drfunkanyone know a good site for ndiswrapper or know why its impossible to set up on a zd7000 pavilion laptop01:49
boxerboywhat command do i use to do oppisite of ifconfig01:49
drfunk?01:49
Cry_Ubuntu_MacThanks veslpoli.01:50
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ben66i just want to baninate all trafic other than ports i specify by certain progams01:50
Vespolirifk01:50
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erUSULDiffindo: i use symlinks from /opt/jre1.5.0/bin to /usr/local/bin01:50
boxerboyi have one of my ips and i wanna look it up01:50
ColossusHow do I make an initrd for the kernel 2.6.13 in Ubuntu? I built the kernel, but now I need an initrd.01:50
Vespolidrfunk, should work :-/ check the ndiswrapper.sf.net dox  ???01:50
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tonkarnobody knows? ...., should the apache content files be from the www-data user, maybe root or from who?01:50
DiffindoerUSUL: MS-ish please....01:50
nilezondelire, this tapping makes me crazy ... if i'm trying to move the mouse it clicks all over the screen :(01:50
cafuego_if you sue 'java-package' you don't need installations to /opt and symlinks.01:51
delirenilezon: right.. then why are you getting any action from the tp at all?01:51
Cry_Ubuntu_Macvespoli, That's not a real channel.01:51
delirenilezon: http://web.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/ may have clues for you.01:51
ubuntu_newbieUmmm about that ramdisk. Does anyone know why I would not be able to open or browse it?01:51
sybaritenmalioth: what about the login screen that is started ..? will it be killed? "is it" X ?01:51
cafuego_Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: What did you want to know about the kernel?01:51
delirenilezon: though i would scour the ubuntu wiki first01:51
ompaulboxerboy, ifdown ethX where X is the number 0/1/etc is one way to turn off a connection is this what you want?01:51
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grodiusDoes anyone have an iPod that works and runs on linux, meaning- you can transfer files and listen to files from the ipod?01:51
DiffindoerUSUL: I'm a Windows Refugee.... Explain things to me carefully...01:52
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nilezondelire, i think i'm using some standard core driver??01:52
delireDiffindo: ;)01:52
cafuego_grodius: Yes, gtkpod works fine.01:52
delirenilezon: yes i do01:52
Cry_Ubuntu_MacI just wanna know how hard it is to upgrade a kernel for better hardware compatibility.01:52
venzennewbie: its an icon indicating the ramdisk's existence - not a file to be opened, see?01:52
KanRiNiNhey guys.  I've followed the steps in the guide, but xmms still won't load or play AAC files.  What's up?  FC3 worked fine...01:52
cafuego_Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: trivial01:52
erUSULDiffindo: what are you tring to install jre or jdk?01:52
nilezondelire, and synaptic is some kind of "slave" drivers ?01:52
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Diffindojre01:52
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boxerboyi have an ip address and i would like to know if it is being used at this time01:52
ubuntu_newbieNow I do. How odd.01:52
Diffindoright now, the bin is in my home dir01:52
Cry_Ubuntu_MacCafuego_ Copy and paste trivial?01:52
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cafuego_!tel Diffindo -about java01:52
ubotucafuego_: I haven't a clue01:52
grodiuscafuego did you do anyhing ahead of time to configure your ipod or did you just plug it in and it worked?01:53
delirenilezon: it's normally quite straight forward01:53
Diffindo!java01:53
ubotuwell, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java01:53
cafuego_!tell Diffindo -about java01:53
erUSULDiffindo: you dwonloaded the bin from sun?01:53
DiffindoJava.com01:53
cafuego_stupid cold fingers01:53
Diffindoso yeah01:53
venzenubuntu_newbie: goto top panel>places>home and what you see there is the contents of the ramdisk...01:53
ompaul!tell KanRiNiN about restricted01:53
delirenilezon: what does happen when you plug in an external mouse? any change to the tp response?01:53
cafuego_Diffindo: install fakeroot and java-package; then run 'fakeroot make-jpkg jre1.5-....bin' and follow the prompts.01:53
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erUSULDiffindo: run chmod +x *.bin01:54
grodiuscafuego does the ipod appear in the colomn on the left side of the program, where the playlist Gtkpod appears01:54
nilezondelire, havent really tried any external mouse yet01:54
DiffindoI did that01:54
DiffindoUgh01:54
DiffindoLook01:54
cafuego_Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: Not quite thate asy, but close. The trick is to know what you shouldn't touch.01:54
nilezondelire, do you think that could help?01:54
ubuntu_newbievenzen: Top panel?01:54
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delirenilezon: it may provide clues.01:54
cafuego_grodius: I think it did, yes. It's been a while and the iPod is not here atm01:54
sybaritenok so what are some good ifconfig variations to test my net connection now =?01:54
DiffindoI've installed Java twice, I'm trying to install it in the 'proper' dir so I can install Limwire....01:54
venzennewbie: where it says applications places system01:55
Cry_Ubuntu_Maccafuego_ Honestly, it isn't for ubuntu, I want to upgrade damnsmall so it will be sata compatible.01:55
nilezondelire, thanks for the link btw ... i might download a newer version of the synaptic driver01:55
cafuego_Diffindo: then make-jpkg is the way to go. Simply generate a .deb, then use 'dpkg -i' to install that.01:55
Diffindohold on01:55
nilezondelire, i might even have to patch the kernel (sounds a bit too advanced for me)01:55
ubuntu_newbieMine has Applications and Computer menus01:55
cafuego_Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: fetch new source, configure, build, done01:55
tonkarvenzen: mmm ...., venzen, hi again, i know that you know from wich user should be the apache content files wich are located in /var/www01:55
ubuntu_newbieNeither of those menus has an entry "places"01:55
apokryphosfirefox 1.5 beta out? Interesting. Anyone tried it?01:56
Cry_Ubuntu_MacWhat that means I'll never know.01:56
delirenilezon: grep the ubuntu forums first, keywords are your laptop. i would be very surprised if someone else _hasn't_ encountered the same problem.01:56
cafuego_Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: then possibly not trivial for you ;-)01:56
erUSULDiffindo: run the *.bin as root. sudo <whatever>.bin01:56
KanRiNiNmy god ompaul, it's a fix to all of ubuntu's problems! :-)01:56
cafuego_erUSUL: No, BAD01:56
venzennewbie: ok, you're running warty right? so find the nautilus navigator under toppanel>computer01:56
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delirenilezon: once discovered, and if you believe it to be a bug, register it. Ubuntu as a project is committed to improving the experience of laptop users.01:56
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Cry_Ubuntu_MacThanks cafuego_ if it's really that simple, I'll check some forums. 'preciate the hint.01:57
Vespolidelire, :D :D :D01:57
Vespolilaptop users !01:57
cafuego_Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: Yeah, just re-use the old config file and add sata, then compile, that should be all there is to it.01:57
venzenhola tonkar: on ubuntu should be ownership www-data and group www-data01:57
delireVespoli: errm yes..? ;)01:57
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ubuntu_newbieThere's no menu choice for Nautilus, unfortunately.01:58
nilezondelire, it might be the version of the driver and my xorg.conf01:58
Cry_Ubuntu_MacI don't know what a config file is either.01:58
waaaaaaaaaaaaweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee01:58
nilezondelire, i'll give it a shot01:58
Vespolibtw does Ubuntu support XFS file system01:58
Vespoli????01:58
cafuego_Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: you should have one in /boot01:58
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ubuntu_newbieI can go to Computer, Home01:58
delirenilezon: perhaps, don't forget to check out the forums.01:58
cafuego_Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: it vontains the kernel config options.01:58
venzennewbie: when you choose 'Home' from that meny you will be using nautilus :o)01:58
gaginghey anyone who knows how to connect cam in my yahoo messenger01:58
ubuntu_newbieIt juse shows desktop 0 items01:58
apokryphosgaging: what are you doing?01:59
nilezondelire, i've been there for like six hours :(01:59
Cry_Ubuntu_MacBut once I get it to work, I'm posting the iso. It's gonna be about 55 megs I think.01:59
gagingi am using linux01:59
Cry_Ubuntu_MacI don't know how to compile either.01:59
ubuntu_newbieOK. I'm using Nautilus.01:59
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cafuego_gaging: ymessenger is broken, so basically you can't.01:59
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gagingi am using linux01:59
robotgeekCry_Ubuntu_Mac: it's real simple01:59
delirenilezon: ;) ouch.01:59
gagingand i dont know how to connect my cam01:59
gagingno01:59
Cry_Ubuntu_MacI want to remaster a version of knoppix so that it has the newest kernel.01:59
Vespoli:-(01:59
ubuntu_newbieI choose home and see Desktop with 0 items and a document called Fall01:59
DewDudeCry_Ubuntu_Mac, nice name01:59
gagingwhy others can?01:59
crimsunVespoli: yes, it does.01:59
venzennewbie: navigate up one level to your home directory01:59
tonkarvenzen: :D, thanks a lot again, and the last question, when i want add/modify this files, shoud i be login in with www-data, or better i add my typically user to the www-data group?01:59
nilezondelire, learning by failing ... or trail and error ...02:00
gagingthey use microsoft02:00
cafuego_gaging: they're not using 1) ymessenger on Ubuntu or 2) Linux.02:00
VespoliXFS -- yayy!!!02:00
gagingyes02:00
crimsunVespoli: if you choose the expert install, you can create an XFS partition02:00
ompaulKanRiNiN, well I do not regard it as a problem, is it a chance to point out to you how the copyright extreamists and software patent extreamists are trying to make you live in a totally pay to do anything culture02:00
delirenilezon: and you have found no other with your laptop and the same issue?02:00
gagingin ubuntu? how to connect cam?02:00
Cry_Ubuntu_MacDewDude It gets the idea across. I'm Crys, btw.02:00
sybaritenok so ifconfig shows that i dont have any IP ... AFAIK. I'm normally on DHCP. Now i gave this line : "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.199 netmask 255.255.255.0 up"   ... is that normally enough to make the machine ready to receive an ssh connection from another computer in the LAN ?02:00
nilezondelire, it's not a very common laptop02:00
gagingin ubuntu? how to connect cam? or voice?02:00
Vespolisweet02:00
cafuego_Vespoli: keep in mind XFS is slow for normal use and not as stable as ext3.02:00
DewDudeheh02:00
cafuego_gaging: "not".02:00
delirenilezon: out of interest which is it?02:00
Vespoliits not that slow .... ?02:00
DewDudei'm running ubuntu on a mac02:00
VespoliI think its fast because it caches02:01
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DewDuderuns good :)02:01
gagingyou mean it cant?02:01
nilezondelire, didn't found anyone else with the same problem and a solution02:01
cafuego_Vespoli: Yes, it really is.02:01
Vespoli:-/02:01
delireDewDude: excellent ;)02:01
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ubuntu_newbieOK, I'm up one level and I see Overlay, root and warty02:01
Cry_Ubuntu_MacDitto. dewdude.02:01
venzentonkar: you can set your own user and group as owners of the file :o)02:01
Cry_Ubuntu_MacMy i586 is so fooked up.02:01
cafuego_Vespoli: deleting say a kernel source tree takes twice the time on xfs compared to ext3 here.02:01
nilezondelire, sony vaio vgn-s2xp (same as vgn-s270)02:01
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delirenilezon: ahah ok..02:01
sybaritenha!02:01
cafuego_Vespoli: I hear it's fine for large files, but not many people do a lot of large file i/o on their desktops.02:02
sybariteni can connect over SSH!02:02
nilezondelire, you've seen/heard of it?02:02
tonkarvenzen: ok ...., thanks ;)02:02
Cry_Ubuntu_MacAnyways I'm gonna read those forums now. I'll catch you all later.02:02
sybaritenno more shoulders going into bits and pieces because of awkward positions with the freaking mac keyboard02:02
venzennewbie: ok, double click warty...what do you see?02:02
Vespolicafuego, so what is the best FS for me --- a laptop user02:02
Cry_Ubuntu_MacThis mac wouldn't touch my internet, btw. Not till ubuntu.02:02
Vespolilots of smaller files02:02
cafuego_Vespoli: ext3 with laptop-mode enabled.02:03
sybaritennow: is it complicated to do the samba-sharing thing from the console? i normally have a shared dir from the ubuntu box02:03
Cry_Ubuntu_MacHooray Ubuntu.02:03
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Vespolilaptop mode <---- wtf is that?02:03
adjacentwhats the keystoke in gnome to switch desktops?02:03
robotgeekCry_Ubuntu_Mac: ext3 seems to work well02:03
Vespolihow is that possible too ?02:03
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cafuego_Vespoli: the laptop-mode (it's a package you can install) will cause it to not flush to disk every 5 seconds, so the disk can actually spin down and save power.02:03
ubuntu_newbieIn warty is desktop with 0 items and a document called fall which is "OLE2 compound document storage"02:03
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Cry_Ubuntu_MacOh, another question. would it be a daunting task to re-build a tiny linux for a new arch?02:04
Toba|BSDI have a broken package, how can I find it?02:04
Toba|BSDit says to use the filter02:04
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Vespolioooh and how often does the disk spin down by default with this ? 5 seconds with this laptop thing or do I need to turn on some additional feature ?02:04
Toba|BSDbut I can't find how to use filters02:04
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Toba|BSD(this is in synaptic btw)02:04
cafuego_Toba|BSD: bottom left curner in synaptic, select status, then 'Broken'.02:04
VespoliCry_Ubuntu_Mac, already some exist02:04
Toba|BSDok02:04
venzennewbie: sorry, i am not familiar with the live cd environment - lets try this via console: toppanel>applications>system tools>terminal02:04
Cry_Ubuntu_Macrobotgeek: ext3 is a fs, right?02:04
gagingwho know's how to connect cam in ubuntu?02:05
robotgeekCry_Ubuntu_Mac: yup, and the default one02:05
venzenusb?02:05
VespoliCry_Ubuntu_Mac, -_-02:05
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cafuego_Vespoli: normally it would not spin down at all, that's the thing with journalling filesystems, they continually dump the journal to disk.02:05
Cry_Ubuntu_Macvespoli I know. But damn small doesnt.02:05
Toba|BSDthanks cafuego_02:05
Vespoliahhh02:05
ubuntu_newbieI can open a terminal window.02:05
sybaritenforget my question about the samba sharing ... appearently the sharing still workds, from the ubuntu box to my XP workstation. the ubuntu box cant reach the internet though02:05
Vespolicafuego, so I need this package ?02:05
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Vespolicalled .....02:05
ColossusDoes anybody know how to use mkinitrd to make the initrd file for a new kernel? Just $(mkinitrd -o initrd-whatever), or what?02:05
cafuego_Vespoli: laptop-mode contains scripts that tweak files in /proc to change that behaviour, so it syncs far less often.02:05
Cry_Ubuntu_MacAnyways, I'm just curious.02:05
Vespoli:D02:05
ubuntu_newbieI can open root terminal or plain old terminal.02:05
Vespolicool02:05
cafuego_Vespoli: if you want better barttery life, i suggest using it, yes.02:06
Vespoliok so can you please tell me which package this is ?02:06
Vespoli:D02:06
cafuego_laptop-mode02:06
Vespolik02:06
cafuego_!info laptop-mode02:06
ubotulaptop-mode: (laptop-mode aims to reduce the power consumption of laptops), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.4 (hoary), Packaged size: 13 kB, Installed size: 88 kB02:06
sybaritenis it possible that a machine can have problems reaching everything using domains (such as www.realdoll.com) on the internet, but you can still SSH or FTP to external machines using IPs ?02:06
cafuego_it uses acpi to determine when the mains power is unplugged and then activates itself.02:06
delirenilezon: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/sony.html02:06
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venzennewbie: plain terminal and then type:    ls -l .gaim/logs02:07
naliothcafuego_: when you are bored, i have something to bore you further with02:07
Vespolilol02:07
cafuego_sybariten: If the dns server in /etc/resolv.conf is down, sure02:07
Vespolity ppl02:07
cafuego_nalioth: Sorry, I am washing my hair...02:07
sybaritenok ... if so, how can i find an IP to try and reach with some service to see if i have any internet access at all ?02:07
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ubuntu_newbieOk. There's two lines in the listing.02:08
venzensyba: ping google.com02:08
robotgeeksybariten: ifconfig eth0 to find your ip02:08
ubuntu_newbiedrwx------    3 warty    users          60 Sep 15 20:21 yahoo02:08
venzennewb: what do they say02:08
delirecafuego_: ahah one of those waterproof laptops..02:08
ubuntu_newbiedrwx------    3 warty    users          60 Sep 15 20:17 aim02:08
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dlddHi, I'm trying to build ndis wrappers, but I get a message saying that gcc-3.4 is not found.  Can anybody tell me how to get that?02:08
cafuego_sybariten: 'host www.google.com 207.46.245.230'02:08
sybaritenrobotgeek: i know  my own IP (on the ubuntu box) ... its .. hmm well the itnernal IP is 192.168.1.199 right now02:08
venzennewbie: ok, type:   cd .gaim        (be sure to include the dot)02:09
robotgeekdldd: sudo apt-get install build-essential02:09
ubuntu_newbieCan I view these files and then I could copy and paste them into a gmail email or something.02:09
cafuego_delire: washing my hair as in "in a few minutes, I am washing my hair"02:09
sybaritencafuego: let me guess, is that like adding a temporary entry somewhere so that the machine understands that single domain ?02:09
dlddrobotgeek,  Thank you!02:09
Vespolidldd,  do not use 3.4!!!!02:09
cafuego_sybariten: yes02:09
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_rb_heyas all. anyone tried doing a local install of a wiki dump lateley ? I've tried the methods they had on the site, but the script they talk about, ImportDump.php isn't there.02:09
dlddrobotgeek,  I've been looking for that for a long time.02:09
Vespoliits ___so___ unstable02:09
sybaritencafuego: cool02:09
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venzennewbie you could but we are still looking for your gaim logs02:09
delirecafuego_: yes i figured ;)02:09
cafuego_sybariten: if that works, your dns server is bad.02:09
gagingwho know's how to connect cam in ubuntu?02:09
sybaritenok02:09
gagingwho know's how to connect cam in ubuntu?02:09
ubuntu_newbieOk.02:10
dlddVespoli, that's the error I get.  It looks like I have 4.0 installed already02:10
ubuntu_newbieI did that.02:10
ubuntu_newbieaccels  accounts.xml  blist.xml  icons  logs  prefs.xml  smileys02:10
ubuntu_newbieThat's that it says when I do ls02:10
Vespoliok x-\ I thought you had 4.002:10
ubuntu_newbieAhhh. We're closing in on logs02:10
robotgeekgaging: asking your question repeatedly will not ensure that someone will answer you. we've seen you asking before, and if someone know, be assured that they will reply.02:10
deliregaging: don't repeat. what web camera is it? try plugging it in and using a webcam application like camorama02:10
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ubuntu_newbielogs has aim yahoo.02:10
sybaritenuhm ok i got a really odd error with the host command02:11
naliothaarrrgh02:11
venzennewbie: no irc folder?02:11
ubuntu_newbieThey're in bright blue type, the filenames, that is.02:11
cafuego_such as?02:11
ubuntu_newbieNope. No irc folder.02:11
cafuego_nalioth: What were you going to make my day interesting with?02:11
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sybaritentimer.c:645: fatal error: RUNTIME_CHECK(isc_time_now(&now(( == 0) failed02:12
_rb_oh yeah, and whats this i hear about nvidia being broken in 5.04 ?02:12
naliothcafuego_: when you "eyes nalioth" my nick highlights, but that's the only time it does02:12
venzennewbie then you have to set in your gaim preferences:  logging>log all chats02:12
cafuego_sybariten: system clock skewed?02:12
hablandocontigohi, I'm trying to share user folder with this Mac connected to my network, I created an smb share via gnome/ubuntu tool and tried to connect to it through network but I get the message "could not connect because original item could not be found"02:12
ubuntu_newbieI am logging all chats.02:12
apokryphosubuntu_newbie: congrats!02:12
robotgeeknalioth: did it stop working suddenly?02:12
ubuntu_newbieI found them.02:12
cafuego_nalioth so maybe it refuses to match when there's a colon02:12
ubuntu_newbieWhat's the command to display a file?02:13
venzennewbie: tell us02:13
sybaritencafuego: perhaps ...  ubuntu complains nowadays when it tries to do some nfs-thing in the startup ...    ...if nfs is the correct name for that clock-service ... on the net02:13
dlddVespoli,  Is there some way I can tell it to use 4.0?02:13
venzennewbie: cat <file>02:13
ubuntu_newbieEquivalent of the DOS type command?02:13
cafuego_sybariten: No, ntp :-)02:13
ubuntu_newbieAhh right.02:13
sybaritencafuego: oh, yeah, i mean ntp02:13
delirevenzen: hehe hmm02:13
sybaritennfs is the file sharing thing02:13
cafuego_sybariten: Start with: 'ntpdate -s 202.125.40.143'02:13
robotgeekubuntu_newbie: cat <filename> | less02:13
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cafuego_sybariten: run that as root.02:13
Vespolisorry dldd02:13
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sybaritenwhats that IP? some german time server ?02:13
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ubuntu_newbieOK I dug down and found some text files.02:14
cafuego_sybariten: no, an australian pool.ntp.org mirror (mine)02:14
ubuntu_newbieWhat I thought was a file was a directory02:14
dlddok, thanks anyway.02:14
sybaritenok02:14
sybaritenno complaints actually!02:14
venzennewbie: go in there and dig :o)02:14
cafuego_After that, run that host command again.02:14
sybaritenshall i try the host command again now ?02:14
sybaritenok02:14
ubuntu_newbieHow do I copy a file name from the directory listing and paste it into the command line after the cat command?02:15
cafuego_If that then works, add 'nameserver 207.46.245.230' in your /etc/resolv.conf02:15
sybaritensamer error, more or less02:15
venzennewbie: you gotta do ctrl+shift+c02:15
ubuntu_newbieOK02:15
sybaritenactually i dont think the "time" and "timer" in the error msg necessarily refers to system clock02:15
venzennewbie: and then ctrl+shift+v to paste02:15
cafuego_sybariten: is your system on time?02:15
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sybaritenhm ... "date" command perhaps ?02:16
delireubuntu_newbie: select and then middle mouse button to paste, or use a copy keybind if your terminal supports it.02:16
ubuntu_newbieYeeeehaaah! i02:16
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cafuego_sybariten: yeah02:16
venzennewbie: excellent X)02:16
ubuntu_newbieI got the (*&* file to display02:16
sybaritenfri jan 1 03:34:36 CET 190402:16
sybariteni'd say thats slightly off the beat, yes02:16
hablandocontigohi, I'm trying to share user folder with this Mac connected to my network, I created an smb share via gnome/ubuntu tool and tried to connect to it through network but I get the message "could not connect because original item could not be found"02:16
venzenwell done02:16
naliothhablandocontigo: use NFS when sharing with macs02:16
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ubuntu_newbieOK. Who wants to hire me as a sysadmin now? LOL02:16
delirehablandocontigo: strange.. are you trying to refresh an old share?02:17
naliothhablandocontigo: at least if you're sharing with OSX02:17
cafuego_sybariten: Well, from C experience, &now would normally indicate a call to localtime() and storing the result in a time_t *02:17
agoncalvesI guys, can anyone tell me how to install my bluetooth in ubunto? cheers.02:17
venzenubuntu_newbie: please type:   pwd   and tell me what it outputs02:17
_rb_anyone tried installing wikibooks/wikimedia on a linux box before ?02:17
sybaritencafuego: ok02:17
cafuego_sybariten: Can you make sure that ntp-simple isn't running?02:17
cafuego_sybariten: Then rerun ntpdate02:17
sybaritenhm, but the sucess of the ntpdate command must mean that it can more or less reach some parts of the net02:17
sybaritenok hang on02:17
Vespoliping google.com02:17
hablandocontigodelire I am using Mac OS X Tiger with Ubuntu Hoary Hedghog completely updated02:17
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vermyndaxevenin02:18
cafuego_sybariten: Yes, but ntpdate can fail if ntp-simple is running02:18
hablandocontigodelire I just created this shared folder today02:18
ubuntu_newbieIt's warty@ubuntu:~/.gaim/logs/aim/myusername/thepersonIchattedwithsusername02:18
cafuego_oh dear, a bitchx user. I though we'd exterminated those...02:18
naliothhablandocontigo: NFS is built into both of your systems, samba should not be necessary02:19
delirehablandocontigo: right, OSX tiger confuses the hell out of me. i would ask others here.02:19
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TokenBadI know going to get tired of hearing this..but what is program to watch bandwidth for ubuntu?02:19
delirecafuego_: hey ;)02:19
naliothhablandocontigo: samba is a microsoft necessity02:19
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venzenOK well done XD02:19
Vespolisamba is retarded crap02:19
sybaritenntp-simple isnt a command on my machine02:19
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cafuego_hablandocontigo: get 'NFS Manager' for OSX, it's shareware, but you'll need it only once. makes setting up OSX as dyanmic NFS client nice and easy.02:19
Vespolims should be shot in the face for something that retarded02:19
venzennow try: (in terminal): ls -al02:19
Vespoliand slow02:19
VespoliN F S RULEZ00RZ02:19
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vermyndaxNFS is built in to Windows 2003 R202:20
DewDudeholy moly02:20
DiffindoI'm trying to follow the instructions on02:20
cafuego_sybariten; Hmm, try 'sudo ntpdate -v -s 202.125.40.143'02:20
Diffindohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions02:20
DewDudethey're rapidly releasing new updates for the breezy preview02:20
Vespoliomg you serious?02:20
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cafuego_vermyndax: who cares?02:20
DiffindoAnd I get the following error msg02:20
Vespolinfs is built in? :-o02:20
hablandocontigonalioth thanks, I will try nfs02:20
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vermyndaxVespoli: yep, totally serious02:20
Diffindo/usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found02:20
hablandocontigodelire thanks for your help02:20
Diffindohelp02:20
cafuego_Diffindo: sudo apt-get install java-package02:20
naliothhablandocontigo: see what cafuego_ told you above02:20
ubuntu_newbieThanks venzen. I really appreciate it.02:21
sybaritencafuego: i'm already root. .. but ok02:21
vermyndaxservices for unix is now a standard part of the OS in Windows 2003 R2 and up... including NFS services02:21
DiffindoI did that02:21
venzenwelcome02:21
cafuego_sybariten:  ah ok :-)02:21
cafuego_sybariten: the -v should give some info as to what it's doing02:21
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venzenalso try:    cd ../    and then    ls -al02:21
DiffindoE: Couldn't find package java-package02:21
sybaritencafuego: actually it didnt02:21
sybaritentook sligtly longer than the last ntpdate command, but no output at all.02:22
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Diffindofuck it02:22
hablandocontigocafuego_ thanks for the top02:22
delirelanguage sonny02:22
khermansanyone know of a DVD burning app other than k3b -- and hopefully GUI?02:22
hablandocontigotip*02:22
vermyndaxkhermans: gnomebaker02:22
TokenBadwhat is program to watch bandwidth for ubuntu?02:22
ShakeZulaHi...  I'm having trouble with my sound.  IN short, I have none.  Ub found my Sound Blaster Live! card, but nothing is happening.02:22
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_rb_have you searched synaptic khermans02:22
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khermans_rb_, yes02:22
clarkn0vahey, i just got a wireless b card for this laptop.  can someone tell me what utility i need to run to set it up?02:23
cafuego_hablandocontigo: Oh, and you WILL need to use a map file to map user and group IDs between Ubuntu and OSX.02:23
khermansvermyndax, gnomebaker does DVD+/- R?02:23
cafuego_hablandocontigo: Ubuntu starts users at 1000, OSX at 500.02:23
venzenkhermans: try this tutorial http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-117709-highlight-howto+dvd+avi+mpeg.html02:23
cafuego_sybariten: And still no joy from 'date' ?02:23
vermyndaxkhermans: I've yet to burn a DVD with it, but it detected my burner correctly02:23
delirecafuego_: out of interest why is that *neccessary?02:23
delirecafuego_ ok i see above02:23
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cafuego_delire: Coz OSX user 500 may not write to a dir own by Ubuntu user 1000, it goes horribly wrong, unless you detsroy the perms.02:24
jynxwould anyone know why i can't install k3b to breezy? get this message in synaptic - Depends: k3blibs but it is not going to be installed02:24
cafuego_Sadly OSX doesn't include rpc.ugidd.02:24
delirecafuego_: right, yes02:24
jynxam a newbie02:24
jorii have gtk and gtk-dev installt but i can stil not build Gtk thinks its stil say i don't have GTK :S02:24
Vespoli:S02:25
joriPackage libgtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.02:25
jori02:25
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Vespoliwtf?02:25
cafuego_khermans: yes, gnome-baker does DVDs just fine.02:25
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clarkn0vai just got a wireless b card for this laptop.  can someone tell me what utility i need to run to set it up?02:25
_rb_oh well, last try.02:25
robotgeek!wireless02:25
ubotuI heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards02:25
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joriVespoli, i'm building by hand maby dat is the error :S02:25
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poningruclarkn0va: depends on what card it is02:25
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_rb_Does anyone here run wikibooks locally, or does anyone know how to install the data dump ( xml ) into a mysql database02:26
poningrucheck out that website02:26
delire_rb_ no, though i am soon to give it a go.02:26
sybaritencafuego: no...  still in the wrong decade02:26
poningru_rb_: -> #wikimedia02:26
clarkn0vathanks02:26
Vespolijori, rofl02:26
_rb_oooo. din think of that. I'd been trying to go there when i got on mirc and got sidetracked by an ubuntu channel02:26
agoncalvesdoes anyone knows how to install a usb bluetooth?02:27
sybaritenoh well i think i will go to bed now anyways, dont feel to alert. i will come back and pester you tomorrow. thanks for your help!02:27
_rb_erm... xirc.02:27
delire_rb_ hehe02:27
sybaritento = too02:27
lundnerhas somebody an idea how to include the irc chat in the background?!02:27
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poningruI would be interested in knowing this as well02:28
joriVespoli, what so funny ?02:28
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normandryde.net02:28
Vespolijori, compiling by hand it so crazy because I suck at it02:29
poningruwho's the mozilla-firefox package maintainer?02:29
poningruis s/he working on 1.0.7?02:29
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joriVespoli, we you're bluiding sameting you're self it can be usefull02:29
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Vespolik02:29
poningru!firefox02:30
ubotuponingru: What?02:30
poningru!mozilla-firefox02:30
ubotuponingru: No idea02:30
Vespoliwtf02:30
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Vespoli!firefox02:30
Vespoli!firefox02:30
Vespoli!firefox02:30
nilezondelire, new question ... how do i enable xorg startup logging, and where do i find the log?02:30
Vespolistop it people02:30
delirenilezon /var/log/X.0.log02:30
delirenilezon sorry /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:31
nilezondelire, thanks!02:31
delirenilezon: np02:31
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delireok, tis late. out02:32
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armor98926hey how do i check my cookies?02:33
nilezondelire, the synaptic driver seem to load at startup ... very strange02:34
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h4zn__How do i import Music from my cd?02:35
Vespoli:'(02:35
Vespolih4zn__, wtf do you mean02:35
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armor98926my cookies02:35
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Vespoliyour cookies are belong to us02:35
armor98926no02:35
Vespoliyes02:35
armor98926no02:35
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VespoliMUAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!02:35
h4zn__I wan to copy the music i have in a cd to a folder02:35
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Vespoligreat -- use nautilus or konqueror02:36
Vespoliarmor98926, lol sorry02:36
VespoliI have no clue02:36
Vespolidepends on browser02:36
VespoliI use IE on Linux >:)02:36
Vespolij/k02:36
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h4zn__So do you konw how to do it?02:36
armor98926anyway how do i check my cookies02:36
ColossusI know someone who does.02:36
ColossusHe's a web designer, though.02:36
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h4zn__Anyone?02:37
naurdHi all, what's the prefered wireless roaming tool under ubuntu...  For now, i use netapplet...02:37
naliotharmor98926: some more info would be nice...browser name, etc02:37
ubuntu_newbieThanks again venz. Now I'm going to reboot and try to get it recognize my USB keychain. Wish me luck!02:37
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_quik_hey folks02:37
TokenBadwhat is program to watch bandwidth for ubuntu?02:38
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_quik_is it possible/sensible to install ubuntu to a local harddrive?02:38
venzenh4zn: you want to use an app like 'grip' torip the music to your home folder, right?02:38
h4zn__yes02:38
venzenso, sudo apt-get install grip02:39
venzenhas good help files02:39
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h4zn__thanks02:39
venzensho02:39
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armor98926how do i check my cookies02:39
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hubert??02:40
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venzenarmor: go firefox preferences and then click privacy tab and there is a button to see your cookies02:40
armor98926ok thanx02:40
armor98926i dont have that capability is their another way02:40
_quik_how can I install ubuntu?02:41
giovannhello02:41
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giovannany one here know how to install a webcam in ubuntu ?02:41
nalioth_quik_: download an install disk at www.ubuntulinux.org/download02:41
apokryphosubotu: tell _quik_ about install02:41
giovanndoes any one here know how to install a webcam in yahoo mesenger ?02:42
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giovannany body home ?02:42
bdt1805what would be the proper format for setting dma on my cdrom drive in /etc/modules?02:43
_quik_is there a net-install option?02:43
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bdt1805in the modules file? no02:43
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bdt1805Im used to just going into device manager in windows to enable dma hehe02:44
armor98926need to check my cookies how do i do that02:45
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h4zn__Do i rip Or rip+ encode?02:45
bdt1805heres what I put, "options /dev/hdc dma=1" am i supposed to replace "options" with something?02:45
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persiaIt's Bug Day!  We're attempting to fix bugs in #ubuntu-bugs to make Breezy all it could be, but don't have any representatives running under PowerPC.  Is there anyone here running Breezy on PowerPC who would be willing to help?02:46
armor98926can anyone tell me how to check my cookies02:46
hayhow can i add a new hard drive to my ubuntu machine and make that the new /home partition?02:46
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robotgeek_awaypersia: sure02:47
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persiarobotgeek_away: Please /join #ubuntu-bugs.  Thank you very much.02:47
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naliotharmor98926: please give us more info02:48
ugoanyone know the package for makeinfo02:48
ugo?02:48
ugoet al...02:48
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Diffindookay...02:48
DiffindoI need someone02:48
Diffindoto take me02:48
Diffindoby the hand02:49
Diffindoand detail02:49
Diffindothe *exact* steps02:49
Diffindoto installing Java02:49
bdt1805lol02:49
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Diffindoplease02:49
ugomakeinfo02:49
transgre1shey anyone have any clue about how much space it would take if i had beagle index my entire harddrive?02:49
ugotoo...02:49
naliothDiffindo: that is the way to get removed02:49
hayDiffindo: that is where $ comes in handy02:49
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TokenBadDiffindo did you check ubuntuguide.org?02:49
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Diffindonot02:50
Diffindono*02:50
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TokenBadwell go there02:50
TokenBadit has a step by step on it02:50
naliothDiffindo: do not use your enter key for puntuation02:50
ugomeanwhile openafs-client finally worked today when i did a dist-upgrade02:50
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GH0|HPHello02:51
GH0|HPI have a question.02:51
ugoneed to compile the module which is why i need the conf tools....which apparently arent installed by default....02:51
GH0|HPI am trying to install ubuntuu, except when I install it stops at mounting CD-Rom Drive. and I cant get past it. What can I do to make it get past it?02:51
naliothGH0|HP: check your md5 sums on your cd02:51
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GH0|HPWhere is that?02:52
ugowhich is why i asked the question...which was does anyone know the correct package names of the autoconf tools02:52
DiffindoE: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.502:52
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Diffindo^I got that02:52
TokenBaddid you edit the repository list?02:52
TokenBadand then update apt-get?02:52
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DiffindoForgive me in my complete noobish-ness...02:52
TokenBadDiffindo, msg me02:52
Diffindotake me by the hand...02:52
naliothGH0|HP: on your cd in the root is a txt file with md5 sums, run your md5 on it and check the cd02:53
_quik_if I'm running ubuntu from a live cd, can I burn cd's still?02:53
Diffindo_quik_: If you have a free CD-R drive... maybe02:54
_quik_heh02:54
Xappeseems like the send-on-enter msn kids has finally reached the irc networks :P *scrolling the log*02:54
_quik_nooe02:54
_quik_Looks like I'll copy it to the other machine02:54
GH0|HPThrough, DOS (I am running windows 2K right now.)?02:54
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giovannhello02:54
TokenBadDiffindo, are you checking your msg that I sending?02:55
TokenBadto tell you what to do?02:55
giovannmay ask if ubuntu can install an online game ?02:55
JeatonGH0|HP - do you still have the ISO on that computer you're using02:55
Jeaton?02:55
giovannis there have an online game to install in linux ?02:55
GH0|HPYes.02:55
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JeatonPM me02:56
naliothTokenBad: you have to be identified to nickserv to send private messages02:56
giovannhow to install an online game ?02:56
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giovanncan some one help me pls02:56
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giovannhello02:57
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consoleathleticsis there anyplace to play the clue boardgame online or a linux download?02:57
h4zn__MY browser stoped working...02:57
nalioths_doggiovann: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.02:58
h4zn__why is this and how can i fix it?02:58
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TokenBadheheh02:58
TokenBadthanks nalioth02:58
giovannok02:58
ugohelp! i need to compile openafs....! the configure script is complaining about a missing package02:58
giovannlol02:58
ugohelp help help!!!!02:58
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nilezonnalioths_dog, stop repeating the same answer :)02:58
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ugojeeze what does a man have to do here to get some assistance...!02:58
djm62ugo: apt-cache search missingpackage02:58
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armor98926how do i check my cookies02:59
ugowell thank you jdm62....02:59
Xappeugo: ask?02:59
Vespolihello02:59
ugobut i already tried that02:59
Vespolidamn it stop with the cookies02:59
Vespoligo to #fedora02:59
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ugohere's the missing package list02:59
djm62then install the package (probably libsomething-dev) that seems to fit best02:59
Vespoli:-P02:59
naliothugo: if you read the configure output, you can help yourself02:59
armor98926as soon as i get told how to check them then i will leave02:59
DewDudehow can i find out what window manager i'm using?03:00
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armor98926until then i will stay here03:00
h4zn__MY browser stoped working......why is this and how can i fix it?03:00
naliotharmor98926: WHAT browser are you using? you've been asked several times03:00
armor98926Firefox03:00
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armor98926i never got it sorry nal03:00
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ugonalioth...if i could help myself i honestly wouldnt be asking....03:00
Vespolihow can I burn an UBUNTU ISO without graphical tools ?03:01
Vespolihow can I burn an UBUNTU ISO without graphical tools ?03:01
ugotrust me...sometimes asking a question saves time....thats all....03:01
nalioths_dogugo, the configure output tells you what is missing03:01
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nalioths_dogugo, use synaptic to install the mssing things03:01
ugoand aptitude cant find it...03:01
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ugoaptitude search aclocal-1.403:01
ugothrows up nothing....03:01
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giovannhow can i know the password of my root ?03:01
h4zn__MY browser stoped working...why is this and how can i fix it?03:02
naliotharmor98926: go to prefs, look in the privacy tab at cookies03:02
nalioth!tell giovann about root03:02
armor98926their is not privacy tab03:02
naliotharmor98926: there is nothing marked "privacy"03:02
armor98926no nothing at all03:02
naliotharmor98926: what version of ff are you using?03:03
ugofor instance "aptitude search makeinfo" throws up nothing03:03
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naliothugo: do you have all your repos enabled?03:03
Xappearmor98926: or check .mozilla/firefox in your home dir it should contain a file called cookies.txt03:03
armor98926ill try brb03:03
DiffindoI am officially convinced that I am too ignorant to use Linux....03:03
ugoAFAICT yeah they are all enabled03:04
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DewDudewow03:05
ugoDiffindo: come on man....please...even my grandma uses ubuntu03:05
DewDude5.10 is turning out quite nice03:05
ugoand she's 90 + 103:05
ugo:-D03:05
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armor98926Xappe: how do i get their03:05
DiffindoWell...03:05
shinuxD03:06
ugoreally though whats the problem...i got a few mins...lemme donate to the company i love so much03:06
DiffindoI'm tired...I'm really agrivated and I need my WINDOWS!!!:'(03:06
djm62the elderly are still remember doing memory upgrades with torus magnets, wire, and a needle03:06
ugobah...quit whining and learn how to use a decently cobbled together os...03:06
lundnerwhatfor do you need windows @diffindo?03:06
DiffindoGaming03:06
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djm62ugo: try "apt-cache search makeinfo"03:07
lundnerwhich games?03:07
DiffindoMorrowind...03:07
DiffindoDoom 303:07
DansFloydhello! i have a question.... why is it not letting me write to the root folder?03:07
DiffindoCS:S03:07
Diffindoand some freeware03:07
lundnerdoom 3 runs natively on linux03:07
DiffindoReally?03:07
lundneran cs:s should be running with cedega03:07
DiffindoNeat03:07
DiffindoCedaga03:07
armor98926yes it does03:08
DiffindoI have now idea how to build a CVS tree properly...03:08
chavoyes steam runs with cedega03:08
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DansFloydsays i dont have access... but im the first and only user03:08
Diffindono*03:08
DiffindoHow well does Wine work?03:08
djm62DansFloyd: you need to use "sudo" before the command to do things with root privileges03:08
djm62DansFloyd: and type in your own password03:09
DiffindoWell, I need major help getting Java installed...03:09
lundneri guess the latest games won't work03:09
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DiffindoOh yay03:09
lundner@Diffindo : http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom ;-)03:09
DiffindoI got XMMS installed...03:09
chavoDiffindo, do you play enemy territory?03:10
djm62DansFloyd: you only need to be root to install and configure system-wide stuff...there's absolutely no advantage otherwise, in fact it's a liability03:10
TokenBadin kde how do you get to the file browser?03:10
DiffindoWell...03:10
DiffindoI don't have CS:S03:10
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DiffindoOr Doom303:11
DansFloydso i cant just copy a file to the folder from the desktop... i have to use the terminal, or konsole03:11
lundnerwarcraft3 and Call of Duty are running really well under linux03:11
DiffindoAnd I want to get UT2004 soon...03:11
ColossusTokenBad: run konqueror03:11
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meghwhoa.03:11
ColossusTokenBad: and for the URI, type "/home/" or whatever.03:11
chavout2k4 has a linux native binary too.03:11
lundnerut 2004 also runs natively under linux :-P03:11
djm62DansFloyd: out of interest, what are you trying to do?03:11
Diffindook03:11
Diffindodoes someone want to tell me how to fix this>03:11
DansFloydinstall realplayer... it needs the downloaded file in my root folder03:11
Diffindo?03:11
Diffindoandrew@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.503:12
DiffindoReading package lists... Done03:12
DiffindoBuilding dependency tree... Done03:12
DiffindoE: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.503:12
Diffindoandrew@ubuntu:~$03:12
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Diffindo>.>03:12
naliothDiffindo: dont paste in here03:12
naliothDiffindo: use #flood or a pastebin from the /topic03:12
ugohey...whats the package name for the linux kernel-headers03:12
DiffindoThanks for all you help...03:12
MadpilotDiffindo: do you have hoary-extras repo enabled? that's where the jre is...03:12
DiffindoYes03:12
djm62DansFloyd: what page are you following instructions from?03:13
chavougo, linux-headers-x03:13
consoleathleticswhat games do you guys play03:13
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DiffindoI went in and enabled ALL of the repos...03:13
chavowhere x is kernel version03:13
lundnerlinux-headers @ugo03:13
dylan_why use windows over linux?  any reasons at all?03:13
DansFloydhttp://ubuntuguide.org/#realplayer03:13
DiffindoWell....03:13
dylan_what will be included in Dapper Drake that will kill Vista?03:13
BurgundaviaDansFloyd, please don03:13
MadpilotDiffindo: you have to add -extras specially - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto the bottom of that page03:13
BurgundaviaDansFloyd, please don't recommend the ubuntuguide03:14
Burgundavia!ubuntuguide03:14
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.03:14
DiffindoWindows is more familiar... Granted, it isn't as secure or powerful... But more people know windows...03:14
DansFloydsorry03:14
dylan_Diffindo, what will be in Dapper that will kill Vista?03:14
dylan_will Beagle and support for embedded videos in web pages be includeD?03:14
dylan_how about better fonts?03:14
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Burgundaviadylan_, embeeded videos are already there (mostly)03:15
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Burgundaviadylan_, beagle and network manager03:15
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dylan_Burgundavia, how are embedded videos there?03:16
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ugoyeah...thanks guys03:16
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Diffindodylan_ I don't know03:16
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dylan_Burgundavia, is that the only additions that will be there? beagle and the network thing03:16
DiffindoBut...03:16
DiffindoI think Google should make an OS...03:16
Daemonichow do I get nfs setup? I have portmap installed but seem to be missing the require rpc.<services>03:16
Burgundaviadylan_, no, the goals for dapper have not yet been speced out03:16
dylan_nah03:16
DiffindoSomething that would kill everything else...03:16
ugoi do all my work as root....i enjoy the feeling of ultimate responsibility....03:16
Madpilotthe Google OS - have google ads right on your desktop! yay! ... not.03:16
dylan_Burgundavia, why is M$ making all their stuff bloated? what makes it bloated?03:17
bigyI think... google linux03:17
DiffindoMadpilot... Er...03:17
dylan_googlix03:17
ugobesides worms are overrated03:17
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DiffindoOodle....03:17
bigygoogle office03:17
Burgundaviadylan_, this is #ubuntu, not #bash-MS, please keep it that way03:17
DiffindoActaully...03:17
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ugoheh heh03:17
lundneryou are really brave ugo you should become racing-driver 8-)03:17
bigygoogle is god03:17
dylan_Burgundavia, no, i mean is it actually bloated?  sorry if bashing03:17
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ColossusDoes anyone know how to get initrd-2.6.13 from the new install disk?03:17
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Madpilotdylan_: have you seen some of the projected hardware specs for Vista? They're scary reading...03:18
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ugonah....a crash dummy would be a better option03:18
naliothdylan_: you are welcome to come to #ubuntu-offtopic and discuss anything you like03:18
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bigyColossus: grub03:18
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lundnerhehe03:18
DiffindoOkay...03:18
dylan_Burgundavia, thanks again03:18
DiffindoWhere is the custom repo that will get me java?03:19
Colossusbigy: ... how?03:19
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cafuego_!java03:19
ubotu[java]  to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java03:19
naliothif you are not talking about ubuntu, you should go talk in #ubuntu-offtopic (now with flameproof fixtures)03:19
ugovista is going to be hot...ure gonna need trusted fingernails to read the screen!03:19
bigyColossus: $nano menu.lst03:19
N17R0Hi can someone help me with installing "Privoxy" please, I have compiled it from source, but I get a error: id: privoxy: No such user03:19
bigyColossus: $man grub03:19
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Colossusbigy: ... yeah, but I need to get the initrd file itself.03:20
bigyColossus: but... be careful03:20
bigyColossus: mkinitrd?03:20
bigyColossus: oh... old old skills03:20
MadpilotDiffindo: hoary-extras, as I said earlier. See the bottom of AddingRepositories for all the info you need.03:20
Colossusbigy: Yeah, but it can't make the right kernel. I tried mkinitrd -o initrd-2.6.13-whatever 2.6.13, but it didn't work.03:21
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DiffindoI added all of the hoary-extras, you clod03:21
DiffindoDid I not say that before?03:21
Agrajagthat's a good way to get help03:21
Agrajaginsulting people03:21
DiffindoI'm joking...03:21
ColossusIRC is not the best medium for sarcasm.03:22
DiffindoIf i really wanted to insult someone, trust me, you would know....03:22
bigyColossus: 2.6.13? ha ha try 2.6.1203:22
Diffindook...03:22
Colossusbigy: er ... I just built the kernel for 2.6.13. Do I need 2.6.12?03:23
naliothDiffindo: be civil please03:23
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Colossus(by "just", I mean about forty minutes ago.)03:23
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MadpilotDiffindo: the j2re-<whatever> really is in hoary-extras, last I looked. just search in Synaptic for 'j2re', that should bring it up03:23
MadpilotDiffindo: and don't forget to hit Reload in Syn...03:23
DiffindoLook03:24
DiffindoI'm trying something else here...03:24
bigyColossus: it takes 5 mins that rebuild a new kernel03:24
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snausagesguys, how can i add a 192kbps vbr rip setting to sound juicer?03:24
delaneyWhen i log in it says   "ERROR FAILED TO INITIALIZE HAL"03:24
snausagesi have this line: audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc vbr=4 vbr-quality=503:24
delaneyWhat does it mean.. and how can i fix it?03:24
snausagesbut i don't know how to make that come out to 192kbps/vbr03:25
Diffindoi have jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin and I want to use that03:25
bigyDiffindo: hehe03:25
Colossusbigy: sure, but I did it a bit ago. Do I need to build 2.6.12?03:25
DiffindoI simply need a clue as to adding the multiverse repo03:25
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ram_hi03:25
ram_i am new to ubuntu03:26
nekohayoam I the only one who can't load random images in xscreensaver? I just tested with only TWO pictures, and they display one time out of five03:26
GH0|HPNaolith - 88c0d18ee3dfee3fb2e2651c75044db303:26
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ram_how can i reduce the size of fonts03:26
giovannhow to play with my mp3 ?03:26
Madpilot!tell giovann about mp303:26
bigyColossus: I don't know... because I don't use the ramdisk in 2.6.x03:26
djm62ram_: in what application?03:27
gaidysguys why are you using ubuntu03:27
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gaidysisnt any better distros?03:27
DiffindoOk03:27
naliothGH0|HP: you should compare that number against whatever source you received it03:27
bigyColossus: tmpfs is much better03:27
DiffindoI noticed two checkboxes in Synaptic...03:27
nekohayogaidys, try it yourself.03:27
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GH0|HPBy how, I downloaded straight from the site.03:27
ugonice one boys03:27
nalioth!tell giovann about restricted03:27
DiffindoThere's nothing in here...03:27
lundnerno there isn't a better distro ...i've tried many distros but this is the best @ gaudys :-D03:27
ugoi just did a reboot after a dist-upgrade03:28
giovannwhat ?03:28
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naliothGH0|HP: go to the d/l page and look for the md5 file onsite (should be where you got the link for the image)03:28
ugoi like the new bootsplash image03:28
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ram_applications other than created using gtk like xmms k3b03:28
ugonow what we need is picture of kiss in the background....03:28
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ugofor the kids03:28
djm62ram_: if you can run "kcontrol" from the terminal you can change the theme and font size for the "k....." applications03:29
ram_no i am using only gnome i have not installed kde03:29
GH0|HPNaolith - 88c0d18ee3dfee3fb2e2651c75044db3  ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso03:30
naliothram_: System > preferences > font03:30
DiffindoAllelujia!03:30
DiffindoI got it!03:30
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GH0|HPSame md503:30
DiffindoYippee!03:30
djm62ram_: k3b is a kde app, so it follows kde themes, which makes it look funny in gnome03:30
naliothGH0|HP: then try burning your iso at a slower speed03:30
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ram_xmms menus03:30
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GH0|HPOkay03:31
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lundneris there a good alternative to k3b?! ...03:31
terrelhi what's up...03:31
djm62anyone remember the name of that gtk1 theme changer?03:31
bigylundner: cdrecord03:31
naliothlundner: not really but you can try gnomebaker or graveman03:31
terrelI want to mount a reiserfs system, how do i do it?03:31
djm62lundner: I like gnomebaker03:31
giovannhow to share my folder ?03:31
giovannhwo to share my folder to another computer ?03:32
nekohayolundner, there's nero for linux... and gnomebaker... I don't think gnomebaker is up to k3b yet03:32
FoodcomanHow are people backing up Video DVD on Breezy? Wine/DVD shrink?03:32
lundneri'll try it :-)03:32
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lundneri tried nero for linux ...it looks not very nice and it was not as good as k3b03:32
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naliothFoodcoman: there are linux native tools to work with dvd03:33
bigylundner: so KISS the cdrecord03:33
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FoodcomanHook a brother up!   =)03:33
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glenn_hello03:34
naliothFoodcoman: do not msg me, please03:35
glenn_how to install sofware on ubuntu:03:35
glenn_how to install sofware on ubuntu?03:35
lundnergnomebaker looks like it is easy to use :-)03:35
Foodcomannalioth:  Sorry03:35
apokryphoslundner: not as featureful as K3b though, unfortunatley.03:35
nalioth!tell glenn_ about synaptic03:35
glenn_how to install java?03:35
naliothglenn_: ubotu is sending you some info03:35
nalioth!tell glenn_ about java03:35
lundnerapokryphos, : yes but it sufficient for my needs :-)03:36
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ugo!tell ugo about spandex03:36
apokryphoslundner: excellent, then. :)03:36
DiffindoHow do I create a launcher for a terminal command?03:36
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ugo!tell ugo about ugo03:37
apokryphosDiffindo: do you mean, how can I make an executable so that it would run form a command?03:37
lundnerwhat does this !tell mean? ...is this a function here in this chat ...can somebody explain it to me :-)03:37
ugodamm...this bot is a dunce03:37
apokryphosDiffindo: place the executable (or a symbolic link to the executable) in ~/bin  (for your user), or /usr/bin (for global)03:37
apokryphoslundner: yup03:38
Madpilot!tell lundner about ubotu03:38
ugo!tell lunder about ubotu03:38
apokryphoslundner: the bot responds to the "!tell"03:38
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apokryphoslundner: it has some built-in factoids (which anyone can add/edit), and you can use the tell command to provide information using him.03:38
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alleni've installed wine in my machine. do I just run .exe files to install windows programs?03:39
solidgroovewine *.exe03:39
allenthanks03:39
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lundnerwow fascinating!! :-D03:39
apokryphoslundner: very handy, yes. :)03:39
solidgroovecedega finally works, I needed libpng303:39
Diffindowell03:39
makkklundner, how do you use it?03:40
Madpilotlundner: at least half of looking like you know what you're talking about here is knowing how to poke ubotu... ;)03:40
glenn_how can i play a sound on ubuntu03:40
Diffindothat was interesting03:40
glenn_how can i play a sound on ubuntu03:40
allenwill i be able to try and test Yahoo Messenger now using wine?03:40
allenglenn03:40
solidgrooveif Yahoo messenger is supported or if works03:40
allenok gotcha03:40
makkk!tell makkk about ubotu03:40
allenwhere can I get cedega?03:40
ugoallen: have you tried gaim yet03:40
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allengaim? what's that?03:40
lundnerMadpilot, loool03:41
DiffindoCould someone be a nice person and Email me a precompiled version of Cedega?03:41
allenok got it03:41
apokryphosubotu: tell allen about cedega03:41
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ugogaim's a chat client like yahoo messenger03:41
DiffindoI'm too scared to get the CVS tree and doink with that...03:41
apokryphosubotu: tell Diffindo about cedega03:41
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makkk!tell me about add03:41
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mustafu!tell me about cedega03:41
Diffindolunder03:42
allenbut can it connect to Yahoo's server?03:42
nalioth!msg the bot03:42
Diffindothank you03:42
ugobut its been "arnied" up to support yahoo, msn, jabber, zephyer, gadu gadu...etc03:42
apokryphosmakkk, mustafu: you can /msg the bot too03:42
DiffindoWTF...03:42
allenoh good03:42
ugoso you get the distinct advantage of all your buddies in one application03:42
Diffindo15.7 kbps???03:42
makkk!tell me about cedega03:42
rossahai03:42
apokryphosmakkk: please /msg the bot when you wish to get some info from the bot.03:42
ugoyou could also try trillian on windows....gives you the same effect....03:42
DiffindoI am NOT paying $21 per month for DSL for THAT!03:42
makkk!msg the bot03:42
x[trick] xi downloaded the kubuntu 386 iso then i burn it on a cd..  i cant install it on my computer :(03:43
TokenBadin kb3 is there a way to burn mp3's into a normal audio cd for playing in cd player that don't have mp3 support?03:43
apokryphosmakkk: type /msg ubotu <factoid>03:43
naliothx[trick] x: check your md5s on burnt disc and iso image03:43
lundneryeah sorry diffindo i have dsl too and my upload is not better :-S03:43
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x[trick] xi've burnt it one iso already03:44
Diffindowel03:44
naliothx[trick] x: then check your iso image md503:44
lundnerDiffindo, my downstream is fortunatly higher (about 125 kb/s or 100kbit/s)03:44
Diffindowit is better than my old dial-up03:44
Diffindo: )03:44
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Diffindono compliants...03:44
flyingpenguinHello guys03:44
flyingpenguinwhats up03:44
x[trick] xhow could i check that?03:44
lundner;-)03:44
solidgrooveTokenBad, you can make audio cd's03:45
x[trick] xi burn it iso (Mode1)03:45
Diffindo4 mins for a 7 MB file is quite quick as compared to my old stuff...03:45
Diffindoright03:46
Diffindowell03:46
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serfurjdoes anybody know why my ncurses apps are all distorted and have accented "a" characters03:46
DiffindoI'm having issues with my soundcard03:46
z3r0xhi03:46
naliothx[trick] x: open a terminal and type "man md5sum"03:46
DiffindoIt is an AC'97 compliant Onboard audio03:46
x[trick] xnalioth im still using windows now03:46
serfurjit happens in aterm03:46
DiffindoI may get XP (the legal way) and start a dual-boot...03:47
naliothx[trick] x: then search www.freewarehome.com for an md6 utility03:47
lundnerwhat problem do you have diffindo?!03:47
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z3r0xI have a problem with my sound device. All system sounds are working but I have no sound when I try to watch a movie or listen sound over xmms...does anybody know what the problem is?03:47
DiffindoI have no audio03:47
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naliothx[trick] x: an md5 utility, even03:47
lundneri have an AC'97 too03:47
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wapuruhello03:47
Diffindolunder: no sound at all03:48
lundnerhmm do you have a newer(i can't remember the right englisch word) mainboard03:48
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ssdd65what are good readings for glxgears?03:48
Diffindokindaish03:48
solidgroovemy fx5200 is 160003:48
Diffindolunder: it's a biostar p4vma-m v7.3 MB03:49
h4zn__how do i eject my cd?03:49
naliothlundner: that is the correct englisch word  :)03:49
lundnercool03:49
Diffindoh4zn__ right click on the CD and select eject03:49
h4zn__the button doexs not work03:49
sproingieglxgears in breezy doesn't even show fps03:49
sproingiegl fireworks with a fps display would probably be a better benchmark anyway03:49
ssdd65i have a s3 savage 2000 and its readin there about 129fps :/03:49
h4zn__Diffindo, thanks03:49
Diffindolunder03:50
DiffindoThat DCC is down03:50
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Diffindodone03:50
naliothlundner: what lanuages do you think in?03:50
DiffindoHow to I install03:50
lundnerhmm ... i have no idea how i could help you diffindo ... maybe you use google03:50
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lundnernalioth, german03:50
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naliothlundner: doch03:51
lundner;-)03:51
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aynomusHELP! i have ubuntu and winXP and i want to unistall ubuntu, how do i do that?03:51
lundnernalioth, you too?!03:51
naliothaynomus: make some space03:51
aynomusspace for what?03:51
Joe41hi guys - do you know when they are gonna publish ubuntu 5.10?03:52
z3r0x I have a problem with my sound device. All system sounds are working but I have no sound when I try to watch a movie or listen sound over xmms...does anybody know what the problem is?03:52
naliothlundner: i speak 4 languages somewhat03:52
naliothJoe41: oct 1303:52
fossahi03:52
Joe41ah great03:52
Joe41thx03:52
lundnernalioth, oh ha!! fluently?!03:52
fossaremind me how to update synaptic to the universe servers pls03:52
Diffindoaynomus, use a windows boot floppy, type fdisk and delete the NON-DOS partition03:52
x[trick] xnalioth im already checking my file with mat-md503:52
naliothlundner: join #ubuntu-offtopic please03:52
aynomuskk thanks03:52
solidgroovez3r0x, in console type alsamixer and if there are two MM select that and use M key03:52
solidgroovethen alsactl store03:53
naliothaynomus: hold that03:53
lundnerz3r0x, you need to start the right sound-engine in the applications ;-)03:53
naliothaynomus: what kind of box are you puttin ubuntu on03:53
Joe41will there be huge differences between the 5.10pre and the final? does anyone know?03:53
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naliothJoe41: not that big a deal, just polishing03:54
sproingieyay, got fglrx working 100% in breezy now03:54
z3r0xlundner, I didn't change anything yesterday it worked well03:54
Joe41i guess some bugs concerning stability, right?03:54
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naliothJoe41: correct, we are in the bug squashing period now03:54
x[trick] xnalioth just want ot clarify.. i've downloaded a 386iso kubuntu.. dont i have to uncopressed that file??03:55
sproingiex[trick] x: you burn it to a cd03:55
naliothx[trick] x: no sir. burn it with your favorite cd burning tool03:55
x[trick] xi've burnt it alrady03:55
sproingiex[trick] x: then you boot from it03:55
Agrajagit's not compressed03:55
x[trick] xi burn it with nero already03:55
sproingiex[trick] x: stick it in your cdrom, reboot03:56
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Joe41are u guys using kubuntu or ubuntu?03:56
x[trick] xi've already burnt it 2x the first time i uncompressed it03:56
lundneri use ubuntu breezy03:56
Agrajaghow do you uncompress an iso?03:56
Agrajagit's not compressed.03:56
x[trick] xok..03:57
DiffindoDoes anyone know how to use a .deb file to install cedega?03:57
ugo@agrajag i think you would want to mount it using the loopback device03:57
naliothAgrajag: you dont. you burn it with a cd burning program03:57
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Joe41is besides the layout a real difference between gnome and kde??03:57
Agrajagwow guys03:57
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x[trick] xi burn it to another cd.. uncompressed but still i dint run to my computer03:57
ugothen you could extract the files you need03:57
z3r0x@ solidgroove It didn't work...03:57
AgrajagI'm talking to x[trick] x.03:57
Joe41of course also besides structure..03:57
naliothJoe41: i dont understand?03:57
AgrajagHe said he uncompressed an iso.03:57
solidgrooveDiffindo, dpkg -i cedega*.deb03:57
lundnerDiffindo, dpkg -i cedega.deb03:57
moparfan90hello if i open a porgam in terminal how can i close the terminal with out closing the program?03:57
DiffindoYAYY!03:57
Agrajagx[trick] x: an iso image is ont compressed.03:57
Diffindoty03:57
solidgroovez3r0x, did you unmute the master channel?03:57
AgrajagWhat did you do to it?03:58
z3r0xyes sure03:58
Joe41i mean is it just some people like gnome better, some not or is there also something about stability and so on03:58
naliothx[trick] x: when you download the iso, you dont do anything with it except burn it straight to disk03:58
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sproingiemoparfan90: normally you should use the run command from the gui for that03:58
solidgroovez3r0x, then you need sound server running or the module for your sound card isnt loading with alsa03:58
x[trick] xi've dont it nalith03:58
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x[trick] xnalioth03:58
moparfan90oo03:58
moparfan90ok03:58
nickrudmoparfan90, you can use disown03:58
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naliothJoe41: you can use any WM you like on ubuntu03:58
sproingiemoparfan90: otherwise you can background it and use the 'disown' command03:58
x[trick] xbut still i didnt work03:58
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fossahi03:58
pizzaiolohi03:58
Agrajagx[trick] x: after you burned the iso image, without "uncompressing" it, or whatever you did, what is on the disc?03:58
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DiffindoWould someone repeat that command?03:59
x[trick] xwhen i restart my computer with the cd on my dirve it says system disk error :(03:59
z3r0xsolidgroove, but the systemsounds are working (shutdown sound, login sound ...)03:59
fossasynaptic... how do i point it to the universe and world?03:59
Diffindolunder?03:59
AgrajagIf you look at it in windows explorer or some such03:59
DiffindoCould you repeat that?03:59
sproingiex[trick] x: you burnt yourself a coaster03:59
Joe41sure but i always used on debian either gnome or kde... i prefered kde... i just wanted to know if either one or an other is better - technically speaking03:59
x[trick] xi've burn the same file that i donwnloaded03:59
solidgroovez3r0x, what sounds aren't working?03:59
Agrajagx[trick] x: how did you burn it?03:59
Ainvarfossa go to www.ubuntuguid.org03:59
sproingiex[trick] x: did you verify the burn?03:59
lundnerJoe41,  i had both kubuntu and ubuntu ... first i liked kubuntu more but after i while i recognized that ubuntu works more stable03:59
x[trick] xi used nero03:59
AgrajagIf you put that CD in your computer right now, what files are on it?03:59
djm62Joe41: there's no clear difference between the two, try both, choose your favourite, or choose something completely different03:59
Ainvaryou will see an area showing you a step by step guide on how to do add those03:59
djm62!ubuntuguide03:59
ubotuhmm... ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.03:59
fossaok03:59
Agrajagx[trick] x: used it how? What is on the disc right now?03:59
z3r0xwatsch movies with vlc or listen to music with xmms03:59
reikiubotu tell Ainvar about ubuntuguide04:00
sproingiex[trick] x: make sure you burn an _image_ and not a _data_ cd04:00
Agrajag$10 says the only thing on the disc is a .iso file04:00
solidgroovez3r0x, maybe a application setting04:00
x[trick] xubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i38604:00
Ainvarubotu I used it along with the forums to do what I needed to do04:00
ubotuAinvar: Are you smoking crack?04:00
Agrajagyep.04:00
sproingiejeepers, how do you screw up nero04:00
sproingieAgrajag: wasnt gonna take that bet04:00
Agrajagx[trick] x: You burned it wrong.04:00
x[trick] xngak!04:00
Agrajagx[trick] x: burn it as a disc image.04:00
djm62Ainvar: uBOTu is a bot04:00
pizzaiolohow do i use "update-menus" ? i installed many packages that put a configuration file in /usr/lib/menu but i cant make them appear04:00
Ainvarubotu nope, I used it for refrence04:01
ubotuI haven't a clue, Ainvar04:01
kevogodThat was a great answer from ubotu.04:01
AgrajagThat's what it is.04:01
kevogodHaha04:01
Joe41i see... i always had the roubles with my ipw2200 wireless... (k)ubuntu - they have been the only ones who installed the mod right at the beginning..04:01
Ainvarahh04:01
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z3r0xsolidgroove, but it worked yesterday.... and I didn't change anything...(I already checked the settings)04:01
Joe41they also reallized the other pc's in the windows net and their names04:01
x[trick] xso what should be the filename after i burnt it right??>04:01
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fossai don't see it there04:01
Joe41amazing OS04:01
Agrajagx[trick] x: it would be an entire directory tree.04:01
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Agrajagnot just one file.04:01
sproingiex[trick] x: you should have a lot of filenames.  click the "burn image" button, not "burn data CD" button04:02
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fossaah! 'repositories'04:02
Agrajagjust go to file > burn image...04:02
Agrajagand choose that file to burn04:02
Joe41currently i'm struggeling with my PDA and synce04:02
allenhow do I run an app I installed through wine?04:02
z3r0xsolidgroove, I have maybe 5 things that are MM on alsamixer...04:02
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x[trick] xok i have my nero open.. after i click the file... it has an option burn image,04:03
x[trick] xi'll used that one??04:03
Agrajagyes04:03
don824chanhow do I get universe stuff into synapse again?04:03
pizzaiolohow do you make appear items from /usr/lib/menu in the gnome menu ?04:03
don824chansynaptic*04:03
x[trick] xok.. thanks04:03
solidgroovez3r0x, thats weird sorry i cant help you anymore04:04
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z3r0xok thx04:04
oogaboogawhich is more secure:  osx or linux?04:04
don824chananyone?  I just forgot how to add universe04:04
solidgroovedon824chan, edit /etc/apt/sources.list04:04
solidgroovei just did that04:04
allenhow do I run an app I installed through wine?04:04
don824channvm04:04
djm62oogabooga: it's six and half-a-dozen04:04
Diffindohow do I install a .deb file?04:05
fanskapetanyone familiar in booting BeOS with GRUB?04:05
djm62allen: there's a .wine directory in your home dir.04:05
oogaboogadjm62, what do you mean?04:05
allenok thanks04:05
pizzaioloso everybody install software and launch it using the command line or is there a way to make appear items from /usr/lib/menu in the gnome menu ?.. lol04:05
naliothoogabooga: they are both unixes, and inherently secure04:05
djm62oogabooga: both of them are pretty secure, neither are absolutely secure, and the security level can change with time04:05
oogabooganalioth, ah i see04:05
hablandocontigoHello, I try to connect to my ubuntu nfs folder that is on a wire router along with my mac os x laptop but I get: "The server may not exist or it is not operational at this time. Check the server name or IP address and try again."04:05
Agrajagfanskapet: works the same as booting windows04:05
sproingiepizzaiolo: usually the installer puts it there.  otherwise you have to use a tool like smeg to edit the menu04:06
reikiosx is linux with.... TPM I think it's called... and apple is porting to intel architecture. OS 10.4.2 is with developers now for intel04:06
lundnerallen,  type in the console wine *.exe04:06
Agrajagreiki: osx is not linux04:06
DiffindoHow do I install a .deb file?04:06
Agrajagosx is mostly based on freebsd04:06
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fanskapetAgrajag,  well i cannot boot it.. just gives me an error04:06
naliothhablandocontigo: did you get the nfs manager from bresink.de?04:06
reikiAgrajag, it's based on linux...04:06
kevogodOS X is FreeBSD plus a microkernel.04:06
naliothhablandocontigo: and configure your mac?04:06
Agrajagwhat gives you an error, grub for the be bootloader?04:06
djm62reiki: I think he meant secure against /other people/, not against him04:06
Agrajags/for/or04:06
Joe41Diffino - use in console: "dpkg -i DEBFILE"04:06
kevogodreiki, No, it is not.04:06
sproingieosx is not "mostly based on freebsd"04:06
reikidjm62, ahh04:06
kevogodreiki, You are misinformed.04:06
fanskapetAgrajag, doesn't grub allow booting extended partitions?04:06
hablandocontigonalioth yes, I tried navigating the manager but no servers appear at all04:07
Agrajaghell if I know, I never use them04:07
reikikevogod, that's quite possible that I'm misinformed :)04:07
Joe41Diffindo - use in console: "dpkg -i DEBFILE"04:07
kevogodsproingie, I never claimed it was. But when explaining, it is easier to associate with FreeBSD type unix.04:07
Agrajagreiki: os x is not based on linux.04:07
sproingieit uses freebsd underneath to do a lot of things, but it's "mostly based" on nextstep at many levels, and completely original in others04:07
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sproingiekevogod: it's easier, but it's pretty much wrong04:07
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lundnerDiffindo, dpkg -i cedega_4.4-2.i386.\(osloskop.net\).deb04:08
lundner ;-P04:08
war-totemdo gdesklets work in fluxbox?04:08
fanskapetAgrajag, something that it doesn't find the device04:08
don824chanI'm wondering04:08
Ainvarso so I have a question, is there anything as nice a kgpg for gnome and also from a windows to linus standpoint is there a newsgroup douwnloader similar to GrabIt?04:08
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naliothosx is evolved from openbsd 4.3, i believe, and the kernel of OSX is called darwin04:08
sproingiea bsd kernel personality on top of mach is not "based on freebsd".  there's no ports, no netgraph04:08
don824chancan I get my PCMCIA wireless adapter to work on this OS?04:08
naliothAinvar: try seahorse for gnome (or just stick with kgpg, it'll work in gnome)04:08
Diffindodpkg: status database area is locked by another process04:09
Ainvarthanks nalioth!04:09
Diffindosomeone wanna explain that?04:09
Syco54645hi when i updated to breezy the ability to open terminal from right clicking on the desktop on gnome is gone.  i was wondering if anyone knew how to get that back.  i am fairly new to gnome04:09
lundnerDiffindo, you have to close synaptic04:09
reikinalioth: maybe that's what I was fishing for in my old brain... that it's EVOLVED from a bsd variant....04:09
djm62don824chan: google the card name and ubuntu to see04:09
don824chandjm62 thx04:09
reikibut... I'm no expert on OSX, that's for sure04:09
DiffindoI'm updating...04:09
fossahow do i configure grub?04:09
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kevogodnalioth, Actually, OS X is basically OpenStep or NeXTStep as sproingie said.04:09
sproingiei might run osx sometime, when the switch to x86 is done04:09
naliothkevogod: yes, based on an evolved bsd04:10
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ColossusI think that when the switch to x86 is done, it'll only run on Mac x86s, still.04:10
pizzaiolosproingie: maybe i can add items manually with smeg but since there's a lot of menu items in /usr/lib/menu anybody would LOVE use something like update-menus instead...04:10
kevogodIt should actually be called OpenStep X04:10
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kevogodoh wait04:10
lundnerDiffindo, then after you have finished your update you can try it again... it is not possible to make to install two things at the same time04:10
djm62don824chan: the chances are it /can/ work, and there are good odds that it will work04:10
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kevogodIt is!04:10
ColossusI'd love to be able to run OS X instead of XP.04:10
sproingieapple just killed their mac sales for the whole rest of the year and next with that switch.  guess they have ipods to fall back on04:10
judari_hello all. I'm trying to get my sb16 (ct4170) to work to no avail. I've check some of the forums and wiki as well and I'm still having no luck..04:10
kevogodOS X = OpenStep X04:10
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kevogodhmmm04:10
Syco54645fossa: where ever your boot partition is, go there and there is a text file menu.lst  edit that with a text editor.  i am sure ubuntu has a gui editor for grub, i just dont know it04:10
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nalioththis mac talk can go to #ubuntu-offtopic where i'm waiting to discuss it all with you04:11
djm62fossa: grubconf04:11
djm62is the gui editor for grub04:12
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Syco54645no takers on my gnome question?04:12
lyndonwhen i was update my ubuntu it shown broken package and need to install "Synaptic" or "apt-get" how can i do that ?04:12
fossaok, got it04:12
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ram_hi04:12
ilpavoxi have a problem where my wireless connection constantly goes down.  it seems there are lots of bugs in the version of ipw2200 bundled with ubuntu.  aparently v1.0 works.  has anyone upgraded it?  can i just compile etc or do i have to upgrade the kernel? thanks.04:12
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ram_how can i upgrade gnome 2.10 to 2.1204:13
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nickrudSyco54645, its in the package nautilus-open-terminal04:13
Diffindolunder04:13
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Diffindolundner: I got some error msgs04:13
Diffindoand it didn't work...04:13
Diffindo: /04:13
judari_any suggestions for trying to get my soundcard to work. I modprobe snd-sb16, I set the Multimedia System Selector to OSS and nothing. I can hear the mp3 somewhat if I turn it up all the way ..04:14
Syco54645nickrud: thanks04:14
lundnerDiffindo, when you tried to install cedega?!04:14
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Diffindoyeah04:14
Diffindohere...04:14
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Diffindoum...04:14
Diffindodpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of cedega:04:14
Diffindo cedega depends on libasound2 (>> 1.0.9); however:04:14
Diffindo  Version of libasound2 on system is 1.0.8-1.04:14
Diffindo cedega depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21); however:04:14
Diffindo  Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13.04:14
Diffindodpkg: error processing cedega (--install):04:15
Diffindo dependency problems - leaving unconfigured04:15
DiffindoErrors were encountered while processing:04:15
Diffindo cedega04:15
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ram_can any one help me04:15
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levanderram_: just ask04:15
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Syco54645ram_: depends on what you need04:15
fossahow do i update from hoary to breezy?04:15
DiffindoY'know what...04:15
naliothDiffindo: one more time pasting in here and you're gone04:15
naliothDiffindo: use #flood or a pastebin04:15
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levanderfossa: if you don't know the answe rto that question, now's probably not a good time to upgrade04:16
DiffindoI was trying to paste something to lundner04:16
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Colossusor http://rafb.net/paste04:16
levanderfossa: last i heard breezy was still pretty unstable04:16
naliothDiffindo: read the /topic   type /topic into your text entry box04:16
ram_ya i want to upgrade gnome 2.10 to 2.1204:16
dhonnhow do i set up the x server04:16
Diffindoso get off my ass04:16
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Syco54645levander: i am on breezy04:16
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fossanuts04:16
djm62ram_: if you wait a month, you can upgrade to breezy when it's released, and get 2.12 in a tested, easy-to-use state04:16
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dhonnwhats the command to set it up?04:16
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Syco54645levander: and it is working fine for me04:16
fossai just installed breezy on my work computer04:16
naliothDiffindo: read the topic04:16
levanderSyco54645: okay, maybe it's gotten better04:16
nalioth!tell Diffindo about conduct04:16
Ainvarbreezy is a pretty stable for me04:16
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djm62ram_: I recommend that, it's what I'm going to do04:16
Ainvarrunning on my dell 6000d with no problems04:17
dhonnwhat is the command to set up the xserver04:17
ram_ok04:17
dhonni deleted my xorg.conf04:17
dhonnfile04:17
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Joe41uff bad idea ;)04:17
levanderdhonn: dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-common (I think)04:17
Syco54645levander: besides just because someone asks how to upgrade doesnt mean they are not ready... it just means that they dont understand/know how debian based distros do stuff04:17
dhonnits xorg though?04:17
judari_syco: I thought you couldn't use ALSA with old ISA soundcards, I thought you had to use OSS?04:17
Agrajagdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:17
djm62dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:17
AgrajagI win!!! maybe04:17
regeyawhoo04:17
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Syco54645judari_: you are using an isa card04:17
Syco54645i didnt see that04:18
Syco54645sorry04:18
regeyaisa!04:18
lundnerwith which command does glxgears show the fps?04:18
Syco54645my router doesnt even have an isa slot04:18
Syco54645lol04:18
ubuntujunkiedo it from the command line04:18
Joe41Ainvar i'm using a dell inspiron 510m which runs almost stable04:18
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levanderSyco54645: I thought breezy was in a more unstable state than yall are telling me.  If he doesn't know how to upgrade, or can't at least easily look it up, using Breezy in as unstable a state as it was a month ago is a really bad idea.04:18
djm62lundner: run it from an xterm...it outputs to...04:18
FoodcomanWell done nalioth!04:18
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Syco54645levander: well i came from gentoo and before that i came from mdk and before that redhat... back when redhat was 5.2 so i am not used to something working and people being afraid if it is unstable04:19
Syco54645;)04:19
dabarhi.04:19
dhonnit says xserver package is not installed!!!!04:19
AinvarJoe41 pretty solid too eh?04:20
levanderSyco54645: It's not a matter of being afraid, it's just a matter of how much time are you going to spend.04:20
lundnerdjm62, he doesn't output anything instead of the animation :-/04:20
sproingieyou'd best know a thing or two about X config files if you switch to breezy04:20
ndazzasproingie: like the changed font paths? ;)04:20
don824chanim confused04:20
djm62lundner: how are you launching it?04:20
Joe41yeah pretty solid... every now and then kicker hangs up and stuff like that04:20
levandersproingie: They have a guide on what you need to know?04:20
don824chanWhat is my "current working directory?"04:20
sproingiendazza: yep that was a killer.  also the int10 extension interferes fatally with fglrx04:20
levandersproingie: Or will by the time they realease breezy?04:21
lundnerdjm62, i type "glxgears" in the console04:21
djm62don824chan: if you type "pwd" that will tell you04:21
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sproingiendazza: things like that.  small changes, but the system's practically dead til they're made04:21
ndazzasproingie: lucky i never got fglrx working properly :)04:21
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don824chandamn04:21
don824chanthanks04:21
dabardon824chan: it is the directory you are in, through a terminal shelll.04:21
Ainvarhave not had a hangup as of yet, and the latest fglrx and restricted kernel modules made my ati x300 card do even better in breezy04:21
fossai don't supose i can downgrade to horay04:21
sproingiendazza: i just did about an hour ago04:21
Syco54645levander: i always thought people that used linux did so because they knew something about computers... but ubuntu's approach seems to be something different, like making linux easy for the masses, and that is nice04:21
djm62lundner: it should be outputting every 5 seconds with an average FPS04:21
sproingieglxgears in breezy does not print fps04:22
lundnerdjm62, in my case not ... hmm strange04:22
levanderSyco54645: exactly, i'm productive with my computer, i don't just sit around configuring it all day04:22
don824chanakk04:22
dabarfossa: not in any easy simple, 1-2-3 way, no.04:22
don824chank I found it04:22
levanderSyco54645: easy to use is not just a feature for the masses04:22
don824chanI just don't know how to install the appropriate package04:22
dabardhonn: and you are trying to do what?04:22
lundnersproingie, aha! do you know a way how to do it eather?04:22
ndazzaSyco54645: many distros are aimed at ease of use these days - particularly specialist distros like SMEServer and Smoothwall - they make server tasks a no-brainer04:22
don824chanthey told me just to say "make"04:22
Syco54645levander: i didnt sit around configging any of my boxes all day04:22
dhonnxorg wont start04:22
don824chanbut my terminal doesn't seem to like that04:22
Syco54645ndazza: dont forget about ipcop ;)04:22
sproingielundner: recompile glxgears.  it's a pretty trivial program04:22
dabardhonn: You see, you would like help, right?04:22
ndazzaSyco54645: meh same thing :)04:22
Joe41Ainvar i'm anoyed of struggeling with synce for my pda04:23
levanderSyco54645: I can fix and find bugs in Ubuntu, and figure out how to get things to work that don't right off, but with Ubuntu, I'm very glad I don't have to.04:23
dhonnyeah04:23
djm62don824chan: what sort of error messages are you getting?04:23
Syco54645levander: i dunno i always thought linux wasnt too hard to use.04:23
levanderSyco54645: at least not often04:23
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don824chanmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.04:23
don824chanThats it04:23
levanderSyco54645: depends on what you mean by hard to use.04:23
dabardhonn: well, how can I know anything about how to help you, and I read dhonn: it says xserver package is not installed!!!! and dhonn: xorg wont start so far?04:23
fossaseriously, should i remove breezy and install hoary before i get more vested in it?04:23
don824chani'm following the directions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo04:23
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Joe41welkll don you might have to run ./configure04:23
dabarTell about your graphics card, about your system, and so on.04:23
dabarfossa: seriously, what is wrong with your breezy?04:24
dhonnxserver-xorg is already the newest version.04:24
sproingieglxgears is such a trivial program that it tests virtually nothing of interest04:24
dhonni tried to install it04:24
jknifehow many people are upgrading or installing somethin from the default servers?04:24
dhonnbut its aready installed04:24
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djm62don824chan: what errors are you getting?04:24
fossanothing ; but it's my work com pand i can't afford for it to be unstable04:24
dhonn i tried to reconfigure it but its not installed it says04:24
dabardhonn: ok, sounds good, and what is not working?04:24
don824chanuh04:24
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dabardhonn: how did you type this?04:24
djm62don824chan: oh, damn, never mind04:24
don824chanyeah I thought I said04:24
dhonndpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:24
dabarfossa back up files, or something.04:24
don824chanso what do I do04:24
dabardhonn: as sudo? have output on a pastebin?04:25
dhonnsudo04:25
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sproingieyou installed breezy on a machine you can't afford to have unstable?  oy.04:25
Syco54645levander: i think anything with a package system is easy to use. except for gentoo, and mdk and redhat.  rpms sucked.  i hear the new one is ok.  mdk once had so much of my libc messed up that i went to gentoo04:25
Syco54645gentoo then decided that portage would stagnate so i left and came here04:25
dhonnim on the phone helping someone get there xorg back up04:26
djm62don824chan: can you type "pwd" and tell me what directory you're in?04:26
lundnersproingie, i guess you are right ..it shows something about 15000 in windowed mode  :-P04:26
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sproingiepackage system is nothing without good repository discipline04:26
don824chan/home/eric04:26
sproingiea lot of the rpm systems lack that discipline, so people have to mix repos04:26
don824chanwhich is where the driver is04:26
dabardhonn: back up?04:26
ubuntujunkiedoes anyone know how to edit the App menu's in Hoary?04:26
fossado i need a network connection to install hoary?04:27
Syco54645sproingie: is there a bleeding edge repos for ubuntu?04:27
nalioth!tell ubuntujunkie about smeg04:27
dhonnno04:27
djm62don824chan: you need to type cd rt25[TAB] 04:27
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sproingieSyco54645: if you're crafty, you can grab individual ports from the bleeding edge distro04:27
dabardhonn: sorry, I can not sit here trying to pull this out of you like teeth.04:27
djm62don824chan: and then cd Module04:27
don824chanbash: cd: rt2500-1.1.0-b3.tar.gz: Not a directory04:27
dhonnwhy does upgrading to the breezy so hard04:28
dhonnxorg fails every time04:28
sproingieSyco54645: ubuntu doesn't have a perpetually bleeding edge branch like debian experimental though04:28
Ainvardoes beepplayer not music from a network share that you have browsed to through gnome?04:28
don824chanbut its there04:28
Syco54645sproingie: they are not bleeding enough.04:28
dabaryou likely have some weird repo enabled. dhonn.04:28
jknifedhonn, what is the Xorg output?04:28
sproingieSyco54645: welcome to debian04:28
jknife/var/log/xorg.0.log(i think)04:28
dhonnthis isnt the first time this happens to all my systems04:29
djm62don824chan: if you type "ls" can you see the rt2500-<something> directory?04:29
Syco54645sproingie: thanks... ill be here till my 80 gig thinks its a 90 gig when the partition table gets corrupt, then ill move on.  maybe to slackware and i will become a 1337 hax0r04:29
don824chanDesktop  rt2500-1.1.0-b3.tar.gz04:29
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Syco54645;)04:29
sproingieSyco54645: if you want the bleeding edge, it really isn't hard to compile from source.  if you want that for every single app, then you want gentoo04:29
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don824chanits saying that its not a directory04:29
don824chanwhich is true i guess04:29
djm62don824chan: you haven't unpacked that file yet... you need to type "tar -xzvf rt2500*"04:30
Syco54645sproingie: well it doesnt have to be that bleeding... but i would like to see the new mozilla firefox in breezy instead of one from a few versions back04:30
don824chani said that lready04:30
don824chanbut w/e04:30
Syco54645and gentoo takes way too long to update04:30
ubuntujunkieNote KDE takes 3 days to compile (average) under gentoo04:30
Syco54645ubuntujunkie: what system are you on???04:30
djm62don824chan: what happens when you type that? any output at all?04:30
Syco54645it went in a day on my 2ghz04:30
sproingieSyco54645: ye gads, tell me about it.  that's what backports is for, but firefox never seems to make it into there04:30
Syco54645with the new xorg04:30
don824chandjm62 yes it gives an error04:30
djm62don824chan: ah! what error?04:31
Syco54645sproingie: what exactly is back ports?04:31
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ubuntujunkieSyco53645: 900 Celeron04:31
Vespoliw0000000t :D04:31
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don824chani don't want to flood04:31
lundnerdoes somebody know how i get the irc-desklet work under gdesklets?!?04:31
Vespoliubunto works perfectly :D04:31
Vespolihowever --- I can't run anything as root!!!!!04:31
Vespoli:'(04:31
dabarnote the name, Vespoli, ubuntu.04:31
Syco54645ubuntujunkie: well that is why then... i dont think it is fair to say that is an average when you cant even buy a machine that is under 1 ghz any more04:31
djm62don824chan: did that file download properly?04:31
Vespoliplease help!04:31
cafuego_duh, stupid gnomemeeting04:31
sproingieSyco54645: ports newer versions of apps to older distributions like hoary or warty04:31
don824chanI believe so04:31
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djm62don824chan: I'll go to #flood, where you can paste it04:32
lundnerVespoli, you maybe have to type in sudo passwd and set a password for your root-account04:32
Syco54645sproingie: ah ok.  isnt it also possible to make your own repos?04:32
Vespolilundner, no04:32
sproingieSyco54645: I don't think firefox is in there tho.  in fact i don't think official backports will upgrade existing packages, only offer new ones04:32
Vespolity dabar :D04:32
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lundnerVespoli, what than?!04:32
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sproingieSyco54645: there's always third party repos ... you takes your chances with those tho04:32
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cafuego_the iSight works fine with coriander, but gm is retarded04:33
Syco54645sproingie: i can compile by hand.  i used to for year, i am just getting lazy what with school and crap04:33
ghost__how do i start pcmcia it keeps on telling me that pcmcia is not pressent04:33
djm62don824chan: ah... you'd need to either type "tar -xzvf" followed by the full filename, or type the first few characters and then press [tab] 04:33
sproingieSyco54645: yah, i've gotten pretty lazy too04:33
don824chanahah04:33
Syco54645sproingie: that is why i went back to a package based rather than a source based distro04:34
don824chanok...04:34
don824channow what04:34
ubuntujunkieSyco: ditto04:34
djm62then you can cd to the directory that has been created04:34
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sproingieSyco54645: debian is definitely not going to give you bleeding edge for the most part04:34
don824chanyeah04:34
don824chanthen it tells me to make04:35
djm62don824chan: and cd Module04:35
don824chanbut then it just give me the same error04:35
don824chanah04:35
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don824chani really should buy one of those Linux for Dummies books04:35
djm62don824chan: and when pwd shows you in the Module subdirectory, you should be good to go04:35
Syco54645sproingie: well that is fine, there is always the ./configure && make && make install04:35
djm62don824chan: it's a steep learning curve at the beginning...after a while you start to say "obviously!" and annoy newbies04:36
ugo@don824chan to slap ur head with right?04:36
ghost__??04:36
ugolol :-D04:36
ubuntujunkiesproingie: debian unstable is pretty bleeding edge04:36
sproingieSyco54645: you could also install a shadow root or even chroot a whole different distro to host bleeding edge stuff on the same machine04:36
don824chank now it says I'm done but...04:36
Syco54645sproingie: too much effort04:37
don824chanmy card doesn't look like its doing anythign04:37
sproingieubuntujunkie: not if you program in lisp or scheme.  sbcl is years old04:37
Vespoli-_-04:37
ghost__am i missing a kernel model04:37
ghost__??04:37
don824channvm04:37
don824chani think i get it04:37
Syco54645oh well time to restart x04:37
JxpX??04:37
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Syco54645see if this works04:37
sproingieSyco54645: i have a redhat box at work that i put openpkg on, created a whole shadow filesystem.  wasn't that hard to do04:38
djm62don824chan: the instructions look pretty good (unfortunately I don't have the card or I'd be checking them myself)04:38
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don824chanwell this is a PCMCIA card04:38
don824chani don't know if thats going to be any different04:38
don824chanbut I don't see it in my network settings like it says I should04:39
sproingiei wish conference mode in an irc client showed joins and quits of people you recently talked to04:39
co_Racinxhello04:39
don824chanDo I need RaConfig?04:39
solidgroovesetting using_dma to 1 (on)04:39
solidgroove HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted04:39
solidgroove using_dma    =  0 (off)04:39
djm62don824chan: do you need WPA? or just WEP/unencrypted?04:39
solidgroovei tried using hdparm04:39
don824channo clue04:39
djm62don824chan: as in, do you use a network that requires WPA?04:39
solidgroovefor /dev/cdrom04:40
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don824chanbut I can't get my card to work regardless04:40
don824channo04:40
don824chani don't requrie WPA04:40
don824chanand if I could spell04:40
djm62don824chan: what happened when you did "sudo insmod rt2500.ko"?04:40
don824chani didn't04:40
don824chan:O04:40
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dabarsolidgroove: you need to use it for, for example, /dev/hdc04:41
djm62don824chan: seriously, slow down a bit and follow the instructions...treat it like Ikea04:41
don824chanwait04:41
don824chanyes i did04:41
don824chan><04:41
don824chanit asked for my password04:41
don824chanthen nothinghappened04:41
don824chanmaybe I typed the password wrong04:42
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djm62don824chan: nothing is good, in this context.  if something had gone wrong it would have said something04:42
don824chanok04:42
Angel-SLdo you get your command prompt back?04:43
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sproingiemy fglrx is a bit of mysterious action at a distance ... i couldn't find it anywhere, but it just mysteriously appeared for me when i switched my xorg.conf to use it04:43
sproingienow it appears in /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-amd64-k8/volatile/fglrx.ko04:43
sproingiewho knows how it gets there ...04:44
don824chandjm62: Either way, my network card doesn't appear to be working04:44
ghost__is it pcmcia04:44
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don824chanohj wait04:44
ghost__cause i cant iven load the pcmcia init scrip04:44
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don824channo my network card doesn't appear in my Network Settings, and it says in the Wiki that it should04:45
sproingiejust curious, there any third party efforts for xerox printer drivers?04:45
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Ice9how can I change the permission of a folder? It currently belongs to root and I'd like to make my user be the owner04:46
sproingiechown user folder04:46
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lucasdi'm with no sound on my ubuntu linux.. i set the volume, and nothing.. can somebody help me?04:46
sproingie'course that just does the folder04:46
sproingieyou probably want chown -R user folder04:46
djm62don824chan: if you type "iwconfig" at the terminal, do you get no wireless extensions on anything?04:47
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don824channone04:47
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heartEyeI want to get a general idea of where the bulk of the data on my hard drive is.  what program could I use?04:48
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robotgeekheartEye: ypu can try filelight, very nice04:48
heartEyegrazie rob04:49
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heartEyegrazie robotgeek04:50
robotgeekheartEye: no probs04:50
djm62don824chan: can you install the driver fully, according to the "Installing" section of the page? (underneath And What If I Don't Need RaConfig)04:50
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djm62don824chan: then do "sudo rmmod rt2500" and "sudo insmod rt2500"04:50
x[trick] xjust want to ask.. if there's a way i can use the same partition on my hdd when i was still using windows04:51
heartEyeW: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/f/filelight/filelight_0.6.4.1-1_i386.deb  Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'04:51
don824chanill try04:51
h08817i have having a problem with my internet connection04:51
h08817i can't connect04:51
h08817when i start up ubuntu it just hangs on loadndisdriver04:51
h08817b/c my connection is gone i guess or the usb is fried04:51
sportmanso how do i determine my kernel?04:51
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djm62don824chan: actually, instead of "sudo insmod rt2500" do "sudo modprobe rt2500"04:52
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luckyabais it worth it to invest in a dual core processor yet?04:52
aprilhi04:52
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Nooblarsportman, try uname -r04:52
x[trick] xjust want to ask.. if there's a way i can use the same partition on my hdd when i was still using windows04:52
aprilhi04:52
aprilljhj04:52
aprilkh04:52
dabarhi already04:52
luckyabaapril hi04:52
aprilhelo04:52
dabarwe saw your first hi.04:52
aprilyah04:52
apriltnx for reply04:53
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aprilfrom where r u?04:53
djm62x[trick] x: no need to repeat.  do you want do get rid of windows and use the space, or edit files on your windows partition?04:53
djm62:)04:53
naliothapril: you may join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask all of us where we are from. #ubuntu is a help channel04:53
x[trick] xi want to getrid of the windows04:53
aprilok04:53
djm62x[trick] x: do you have ubuntu installed already?04:54
x[trick] xi have a 80gig hdd partitioned into 2 drives04:54
dabarh08817: and, what, I should guess what type of network you use, what type of network card you have, and so on?04:54
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durtwhat's the command i can use to make my file managers open a document in abiword?04:54
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x[trick] xi have lots of mp3 on my secondary drive and i want to save it04:54
h08817dabar, i have a linksys network and i use a netgear usb04:54
dabardurt, its in the properties when you right click, in the open with tab.04:54
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djm62x[trick] x: yes you can do that04:54
dabarlinksys network meaning a router, and a netgear usb wireless network card?04:54
x[trick] xmy master drive is 5gig and from there i plan to install the ubuntu04:54
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sportmanum lets see04:55
x[trick] xim just starting to install ubuntu on my pc04:55
sportmanim installing vmware04:55
h08817dabar, yes04:55
don824chank djm62 i did everything you said04:55
BlueEaglex[trick] x: 5 gigs is more than enough to install ubuntu on.04:55
sportmanit is asking me What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running04:55
BlueEaglex[trick] x: hoary or breezy?04:55
djm62don824chan: and do you get anything when you type "iwconfig" now?04:55
sportmankernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 04:55
h08817dabar, not sure why it doesn't work i haven't used my comp in 2 weeks04:55
durtdabar, well i cant do that in xsmbrowser, so i was wondering what the arguments to "abiword" should be04:55
dabarh08817: I cant help. I dont use that.04:55
don824chanstill no04:55
sportmanwhat do i do?04:55
sportman...04:55
sportmani just got gcc 3.404:55
h08817dabar, of course no one does04:55
djm62!rt250004:55
ubotudjm62: Are you smoking crack?04:56
sportmanand instaleed system headersr04:56
djm62damn, ubotu can smell it04:56
AinvarI forgot to backup my esd.conf, is there anyway to get the default back without having to reinstall?04:56
x[trick] xso what will i do by the time i go to the partition options?04:56
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don824chanI have lo eth0 and sit004:56
x[trick] xwhat do youi mean sir?? im just new in linux :(<BlueEagle> x[trick] x: hoary or breezy?04:56
sportmanhmm04:56
dabardurt: what arguments?04:56
sportmann e one want to help me out?04:56
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sportmanwith installing vmware04:56
djm62don824chan: and your card is plugged in? nothing obvious wrong?04:56
naliothdjm62: is this what you are after? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo04:57
BlueEaglex[trick] x: Ubuntu has got names for their versions. 5.04 is hoary hedgehog while 5.10 is breezy badger04:57
sportmanits asking me for the location of the directory of C header files that match my running kernel04:57
don824chanyeah its plugged in04:57
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x[trick] xim using 5.1004:57
sportmanany help would be greatly appreciated04:57
Nooblarsportman, the best is to check out VMWare's forums...you'll get help from vmware tech guys there04:57
digitizeyou know, /join #amarok04:57
digitizeerr04:57
BlueEaglex[trick] x: That would be breezy.04:57
digitizesorry04:57
durtdabar, if i set something to open with the "abiword" command, it doesnt open it04:57
sportmanmeh, but this is a ubuntu specific problem04:57
dabarx[trick] x: ya, you can get the files off the "windows" formatted drive with mp3s. /msg ubotu ntfs04:57
sportmanlol04:57
djm62nalioth: that's what he was using, I'm trying to see if there are any gotchas04:57
sportmanbut w.e.04:57
sportman;)04:57
naliothdjm62: lead on, mcduff04:58
BlueEaglex[trick] x: Be aware that if you install with norwegian locale you _might_ run into some config trouble with X. Either that or it was me who messed up when transferring my dualscreen config.04:58
djm62don824chan: what card do you actually have?04:58
dabardurt, go into a terminal, and try abi<tab><04:58
Nooblarsportman, what message u getting when u try to compile it?04:58
don824chanuh04:59
aprilhelo04:59
don824chanBelkin 54G04:59
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dabarI dont know what you do, and doesnt open it is ambiguous, what, it opens abiword but no file?04:59
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sportmani cant get any further04:59
don824chanF5D701004:59
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x[trick] xmy drive is partitioned in fat32 will that be ok with linux?04:59
Ainvarso is there a way for me to redo my esd.conf file back to default without reinstall breezy?04:59
sportmanit just asks me that one question04:59
sportmanthen w.e.04:59
sportmanh.o.04:59
moparfan90hello everyone05:00
sportmanhow bout someone help me install java05:00
dabarx[trick] x: yes, even better, it can be written to by linux.05:00
aprilhloo05:00
cefso is xorg 6.8.2-67 any good?05:00
sportmanubotu tell sportman about java05:00
apriltoo all of u05:00
dabarapril: do you have a question?05:00
aprilnope05:00
aprily?05:00
apriln u?05:00
dabarwe said hi already.05:00
dabarWhat would you like?05:00
x[trick] xi have a hard time installing it ;(05:00
kasper_has anyone successfully installed java onto mozilla??05:00
x[trick] xhuhuu05:00
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aprilnothing05:00
dabarok, good.05:00
h08817!java05:00
ubotujava is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java05:00
kasper_TY MUCH!!05:01
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moparfan90!java05:01
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java05:01
aprilhi05:02
cefis java 1.5 available for breezy at all? that only says 1.405:02
djm62don824chan: it looks like people are using ndiswrapper to get that card working05:02
Ainvarcef just make your own java deb package05:02
AinvarI have the steps if you want it05:02
ADRnLnHi, I am wondering if anyone has been able to get the trackpad working on breezy with a G4 PowerBook?05:02
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Ainvarfound them on the forums yesterday05:03
naliothapril: this is not a chat channel. this is a help channel.05:03
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cefAinvar: cool... I unfortunately need 1.5 for work05:03
don824chandjm62: What does that mean for me05:03
oogaboogai have a 52x cd reader .... how can i get it to write to the hard disk at a rate faster than 3.8x? i have dma enabled.  it is drive /dev/hdd05:03
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benz190rydahello folks05:04
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durtdabar: thanks, it works now, the command was "abiword $FILE"05:04
Ainvarcef you have msg05:04
dabardurt: makes sense. good work.05:04
Diffindohello?05:04
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DiffindoI have cedega installed now... Is there anything esle I need to do?05:04
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mik3hi, anyone care to attempt to help me solve this problem when I try to start NVU: Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting.05:05
dabarDiffindo: ya, go get me a sub at subway. jj, You need to do what you want to do.05:05
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mik3wake up cletus05:05
naliothmik3: be civil, please05:06
mik3=/05:06
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theblue_Hi all.05:06
djm62don824chan: it means that for some reason the rt2500 driver isn't happy on your card (it's still under development), but you can use ndiswrapper to make it work.  it's a different driver05:06
dabarhi back.05:06
don824chanohk...05:06
mik3nalioth want to help?05:06
Ainvarcan anyone assist me in this quest to fix my sound that I messed up by not backing up my esd.conf file? I just need a way to either recreate with default values or a copy of one from breezy. Is this at all possible?05:06
dabarmik3: do you want to help?05:06
oogaboogai have a 52x cd reader .... how can i get it to write to the hard disk at a rate faster than 3.8x? i have dma enabled.  it is drive /dev/hdd05:06
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naliothmik3: do you have all the mozilla things installed?05:07
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mik3dabar: i help in here very often, thanks05:07
Diffindodabar: So, If I stick my Morrowind CD in, it will work?05:07
mik3nalioth: i installed what i thought was mozilla suite, i downloaded some installation script from mozilla.com, it seemed like it installed everything05:07
djm62don824chan: unfortunately, it's 4am here in the UK, and I need to sleep.  if you google belkin ubuntu ndiswrapper 54g you should get some useful pages05:07
naliothmik3: ewww, no.05:07
ubuntujunkieoogabooga: have you looked at hdparm?05:07
mik3crap05:07
dabarDiffindo: I dont know.05:07
naliothmik3: you need to use synaptic/aptitude/apt05:08
dabarmik3: then tell us more, did this ever work, what did you change for it not to work...05:08
don824chanthanks05:08
djm62and stay in here for help, but probably not from me...05:08
don824chani think I'm gonna get sleep too05:08
Toba|BSDI'm having a slight problem05:08
oogaboogaubuntujunkie, yes05:08
mik3 Ignoring ALL messages from dabar!*@*05:08
mik3anyways05:08
Toba|BSDI have a somewhat old version of all the packages05:08
MarcNbreezy's Xorg server pretty sick lately?  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg dies at the very end.  No X for me tonight...05:08
Toba|BSDso I go in synaptic05:08
Toba|BSDand click mark upgrades05:08
mik3nalioth it worked fine before i did an upgrade a few weeks ago05:08
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Toba|BSDand it marks them all fine05:08
Toba|BSDbut the apply button is grayed out05:09
Toba|BSDwhy is that05:09
naliothmik3: in synaptic are all the mozilla things installed?05:09
mik3will comply, stand by05:09
concept10has anyone seen the Yahoo commercials using the 8-bit like characters?05:09
digitizenalioth: i imagine there is a package for the whole suite05:09
digitizejust check the description05:09
Toba|BSDit seems that my package information was NOT updated05:09
BlueEagleconcept10: "8-bit like" as in utf8?05:09
durttoba|bsd: i dont know - use "sudo apt-get upgrade" then05:09
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sportmanwtf05:09
sportmani cant figure this out05:09
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concept10BlueEagle: 8-bit like Commodore 6405:10
flyingpenguinw00t05:10
Toba|BSDapt-get upgrade...05:10
naliothmik3: see what digitize said above and check your installation05:10
BlueEaglesportman: You need to press the keys in different other.05:10
Toba|BSDwill a root shell do?05:10
Toba|BSDor does it have to be sudo05:10
flyingpenguinisn't it apt-get update?05:10
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flyingpenguinapt-get does have to be sudo05:10
Toba|BSDaha!05:10
flyingpenguinw00t05:10
BlueEagleflyingpenguin: sudo apt-get update, but yes.05:10
Toba|BSDthat would explain why jack shit happened05:10
flyingpenguinanywho... I have to go now05:10
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flyingpenguinat a lanparty ;)05:10
durtits upgrade fellas05:10
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sportmanand jpackage05:10
mik3nalioth: mozilla, firefox, thunderbird, some dev stuff is installed. for some reason the script didn't install composer, i feel gyped!05:11
BlueEagledurt: That depends on what you want to do, doesn't it?05:11
mik3because now i'm no longer on broadband =/05:11
naliothmik3: that is what you are missing05:11
mik3well crap05:11
sportmanhow do i install jre05:11
mik3what's the apt-get name to install it05:11
sportmani have the .bin file05:11
durtblueeagle: and he wanted to mark all upgrades in synaptic05:11
BlueEagledurt: Ahh. Didn't get that. :)05:11
Toba|BSDhuh05:12
Toba|BSDI did apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade05:12
Toba|BSDboth with sudo05:12
durtsportman: bet it from backports of extras or whatever that repo is05:12
Toba|BSDand nothing has been updated05:12
Toba|BSDwhat is wrong05:12
mik3naltioth: composer isn't even coming up in the search i do on synaptec or apt-cache05:12
sportmanwtf?05:12
sportmanlo05:12
sportmanl05:12
sportmanbrb05:12
mik3repository issue perhaps?05:12
flyingpenguinanyone here know abought imwheel?05:12
dabarToba|BSD: you tell us. What is in your repositories list in /etc/apt/sources.list05:12
Toba|BSDwhat conf are my repos in05:12
naliothmik3: you should be able to install mozilla (and it should install everything)05:12
Toba|BSDI'll look there yes05:12
durttoba|bsd, does it say the you have no updates needed?05:13
BlueEagletoba|bsd: /etc/apt/sources.list05:13
Toba|BSDI do need updates05:13
Toba|BSDbut they aren't happening05:13
Toba|BSDI'll get back to you with my list05:13
kriptic13flyingpenguin: imwheel hasn't been needed for a long time. :)05:13
mik3nalioth: mozilla is installed but maybe composer isn't listed as a stand alone program , and when i type mozilla at console it starts firefox05:13
flyingpenguinkriptic13: then how do you think I should get my microsoft mouse to work?05:13
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kriptic13flyingpenguin: Is it just your mouse wheel that isn't working? Or are there other buttons involved?05:14
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Toba|BSDit looks like only archinve.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ is not commented out05:14
flyingpenguinkriptic13: side to side scrooling/back and foword buttons05:14
Toba|BSD*archive05:14
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Toba|BSDshould I uncomment the other repos?05:14
dabarToba|BSD: you should paste your sources.list file to paste.ubuntulinux.nl .05:15
mik3nalioth maybe i should kick the computer05:15
kriptic13flyingpenguin: the secret lies in setting up the mouse inputdevice section of xorg.conf.05:15
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Toba|BSDI'm doing that05:15
flyingpenguinkriptic13: hold on let me start irc in my gui05:15
durtanybody have mozplugger working with firefox 1.5?05:15
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naliothmik3: wont help, and may hurt05:16
flyingpenguinok... its starting05:16
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Toba|BSDhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/223705:16
durti moved all the .so files, but mozplugger still doesnt work05:16
Flying-Penguinok...05:16
mik3nalioth what do you suggest?05:16
dabarToba|BSD: in fact, the # in front of a line means its commented out, and is not used.05:16
Flying-Penguinkriptic13: ok...05:16
kriptic13flyingpenguin: I don't have the same mouse that you do, obviously.... so it will probably be just a bit different for you....05:16
naliothmik3: install composer05:16
Flying-Penguinkriptic13: do you have side scrooling?05:17
Toba|BSDdabar, I know that05:17
Toba|BSDread the line I said about commenting out again05:17
mik3HEH i just did apt-get install mozilla and it's reinstalling the browser05:17
mik3and a bunch of other crap05:17
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kriptic13flyingpenguin: no, but I do have a 12-button multimedia mouse.  :)05:17
dabarToba|BSD: youre right.05:17
Toba|BSDthank you05:17
naliothmik3: that "other crap" is the crap you need05:17
Flying-Penguinkriptic13: 12-button?05:17
Toba|BSDI'll read that tutorial somebody told the bot to give me, it will help right?05:17
dabarToba|BSD: I dont know which tutorial the bot gave you. I think that you just have the regular repos enabled, and to receive updates, you need to have the security repos enabled.05:18
mik3nalioth: are you running breezy or still on hoary?05:18
naliothmik3: both. i have hoary on this box05:18
kriptic13flyingpenguin: hold on a sec... need to remember what I did.... :)05:18
nalioths_dogmik3, and breezy on this one05:18
Flying-Penguinkriptic13: I sent you my config05:19
Toba|BSDok thanks dabar05:19
mik3breezy stable for ya?05:19
Flying-Penguinkriptic13: ok... my side buttons work05:20
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TraceGreenHello, does anyone use freenx? i want to control a remote computer with freenx, my computer is windows, remote is debian linux, Can these 2 computers use the same session?05:20
Flying-Penguinkriptic13: but they don't go back/foword05:20
hablandocontigohello, I've been trying to share files between my ubuntu computer and Tiger computer between a Linksys all day. any troubleshooting tips?05:20
dabarwel;come05:20
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nalioths_dogmik3, it's a ruff ride05:21
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naliothhablandocontigo: if all else fails, use sftp05:21
mik3yah so i've been hearing05:21
dabarhablandocontigo: yes. /msg ubotu ask05:22
Flying-Penguinkriptic13: you there?05:22
mik3hablandocontigo : what kind of network setup05:22
concept10TraceGreen: have you tried to use a Remote Desktop Client?05:22
mik3ip's both in the same subnet class etc? like you don't have one computer using 192.168.1.10 and another on 192.168.0.1105:22
TraceGreenconcept10, what do you mean of Remote Desktop Client?05:22
TraceGreeni tried freenx, but it seems 2 computers cann't use the same session.05:23
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kriptic13flyingpenguin: I've been PM'ing you back.  :)05:24
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kriptic13flyingpenguin: let me know if I need to repeat.05:25
naliothkriptic13: you need to register and identify with nickserv to send priv msgs05:25
kriptic13bugger all.  :)05:25
Flying-Penguinkriptic13: I don't see any of the msgs...05:25
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Flying-Penguinkriptic13: join #flying-penguin05:25
hablandocontigomik3 linksys router wired05:26
Flying-PenguinJxpX: pwnt05:27
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DiffindoQuestion: How can I boot directly into a terminal, as apposed to starting X?05:27
Cicakmanhello05:27
crimsunDiffindo: search the wiki for disabling gdm05:27
waltzQuestion: Has the autogreeter crash been fixed in 5.10? :|05:27
Cicakmanmy ubuntu is behaving very weirdly.. the sound output comes from the headphone port only, and not the proper soundcard port05:27
ghostdoghow do i uncompress a rar file05:28
Cicakmancan anyone help me with this?05:28
crimsunCicakman: cat /proc/asound/cards05:28
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Cicakman0 [Audigy2        ] : Audigy2 - Sound Blaster Audigy205:28
Cicakman                     Sound Blaster Audigy2 (rev.4) at 0xc8c0, irq 1805:28
durtghostdog, you need unrar05:28
crimsunCicakman: paste the output from ''amixer'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:28
cefwaltz: which autogreeter crash?05:28
naliothghostdog: install unrar-nonfree05:28
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Will^Dravenwhen trying to install software updates i get this error:05:29
Will^DravenE: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)05:29
Will^DravenE: Unable to lock the download directory05:29
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crimsunWill^Draven: how are you trying to install software?05:29
naliothWill^Draven: dont paste in here, use #flood or a pastebin05:29
CicakmanCrimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/223805:29
ghostdogwhere is that unrar-nonfree located ?05:29
crimsunghostdog: in multiverse05:30
Will^Dravenfor the software updates app thingy that popped up and said updates were available05:30
apokryphosWill^Draven: make sure you don't have other instances of apt/synaptic etc open05:30
cefDiffindo: you either need to disable gdm, or you can use recovery mode (automatically gives you root - use only for recovery)05:30
cvt|ubuntui don't have the hoary extras feature in my repositories05:30
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scopecreepis it ok to use the hoary-backports repository with a breezy preview install?05:30
nalioth!info unrar-nonfree05:30
ubotuunrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 208 kB05:30
apokryphosscopecreep: could be a little shaky05:30
crimsunCicakman: are you using the analog speaker out or the optical SPDIF connection?05:31
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Diffindocef05:31
naliothscopecreep: there are no breezy backports05:31
DiffindoHow would I boot into recovery mode?05:31
ghostdogwheres multiverse ?05:31
Cicakmancrimsun: not sure what you meant by that... but it's just a normal cable to the speaker05:31
naliothscopecreep: the pkgs in hoary-backports are the same in breezy05:31
nalioth!tell ghostdog about sources05:31
scopecreepok thats what i meant to ask i guess05:31
Diffindo!recovery mode05:31
ubotuDiffindo: I give up, what is it?05:31
Diffindo!recoverymode05:31
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Diffindo05:31
crimsunCicakman: not into a stereo receiver, correct?05:31
scopecreepthanks for the info05:31
Cicakmancrimsun: correct05:32
naliothDiffindo: go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search for disable gdm05:32
cefDiffindo: when you boot, it gives you options of what kernels to boot.. select the top one with the words "(recovery mode)" after it05:32
naliothcef: dont advise that please. it isnt safe to run as root05:32
crimsunCicakman: in a Terminal, amixer sset 'IEC958' off && amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on05:32
cefnalioth: I did specify that earlier it's specifically to fix stuff only05:33
crimsunCicakman: you probably want to adjust the 'Surround' element using alsamixer or Volume Control, too05:33
naliothcef: some people dont know waht "fixing stuff" means in a *nix box05:33
DiffindoI'll be back05:33
cefnalioth: and if X kills your machine, given the default config, you basically need to use it05:33
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DMJCok05:33
DMJCsomething has totally died on it's ass in gnome05:34
naliothcef: you have to think of the lowest common denominator when you give advice. not everyone is as knowledgable as you are05:34
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DMJCwhat I did was put in a new hard drive05:34
DMJCand move the home folder to it05:34
DMJCall the permissions got converted to root05:34
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DMJCso I did a chown user:users *05:34
Cicakmancrimsun: you are beautiful05:34
DMJCon the home folder05:34
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=== sportman installed bittornado
DMJCany ideas?05:34
sportmanand bittornado gui05:34
sportmanbut it doesnt show up05:35
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sportmanon the applications list05:35
sportmann e ideas?05:35
Cicakmancrimsun: what does IEC958 mean?05:35
naliothsportman: open a terminal and run btdownloadgui.py05:35
crimsunCicakman: that's the optical SPDIF connection05:35
Cicakmanic,,,,05:35
nalioth!tell sportman about smeg05:35
durtsportman: you can add it with smeg if your in gnome05:35
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Cicakmancrimsun: thx a lot!05:36
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crimsunCicakman: np05:36
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=== omp is wondering whether he should get the livecd or the install cd of breezy, i'm just going to be using breezy for fun
sportmandamn i hate this05:38
sportmanits being gay05:38
crimsunomp: live cd05:38
sportmansays i have 0.9 installed05:38
sportmanof some lib05:38
sportmanand i need 0.105:38
ompcrimsun: okay =] 05:38
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naliothsportman: what program is complaining?05:38
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durtwhy wont java work in firefox 1.5? and mozplugger too05:39
ompmaybe if i like it enough i might consider switching to breezy as my main OS :)05:39
ADRnLnRoom: Anyone here using breezy on a newer PowerBook?... please notify me...05:39
crimsundurt: check if the plug interface has changed05:39
VersedI have the latest ubuntu on a g4 45005:40
naliothADRnLn: you might try #debian or #redhat also (the same module will work for all distros, usually)05:40
ADRnLnim trying to find someone who has it running on a PB that uses the USB touchpad instead of the older ADB system05:40
ColonelKerneli dont reccomend fedora05:40
ColonelKernelor debian05:40
ompdurt: in the URL field, type about:plugins05:40
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durtcrimsun: i deleted the pluginreg.dat and it regenerated. should i move firefox of my home folder or something?05:41
sportmanwhen im trying to do dpg -i smeg05:41
ugoi'm having problems compiling open afs on hoary?05:41
ColonelKernelthe distros are good but the support channels are an abusive madhouse05:41
sportmanlol05:41
VersedFrom what I've read, it's more of a wifi problem then anything else.05:41
naliothColonelKernel: ADRnLn is looking for a linux device driver, not another OS05:41
crimsundurt: I can't speak for firefox 1.5beta05:41
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naliothsportman: use the install script off the smeg homepage05:41
ugohelp! it compiles with error....what do i do....what do i do!05:41
ColonelKernelnalioth, gotcha05:41
ompfedora support channel isn't bad05:41
sportmandpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smeg:05:41
sportman smeg depends on python-xdg (>= 0.14); however:05:41
sportman  Version of python-xdg on system is 0.9-1.05:41
sportmanlol05:41
crimsunugo: paste the errors on paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:41
naliothsportman: dont paste in here05:41
VersedI have a 17inch 1.5 pb, not intending to install it on it05:41
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ugothanks one sec05:41
ompi don't think anythign compares tot he support channel of gentoo, though05:41
ompto the*05:42
naliothsportman: use the install script from the smeg homepage05:42
cvt|ubuntuPlease insert the disk labeled:05:42
cvt|ubuntuUbuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)05:42
cvt|ubuntuin drive /cdrom/05:42
naliothcvt|ubuntu: do not paste in here, please05:42
sportmani am05:42
cvt|ubuntuwhy is it telling me that when i try to get java in synaptic?05:42
ColonelKernelthe fedora support channel is pure crap, as is the debian one.05:42
cvt|ubuntuok05:42
sportmani saved the script05:42
sportmanthere is no file type?05:42
ColonelKernelIve never had problems in #gentoo05:42
sportmanwhat do i do ./scriptname05:42
sportman?05:42
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crimsunColonelKernel: (there are a few gems in #debian, but that's off-topic)05:42
ColonelKernela few, lol05:43
naliothsportman: or sh scriptname05:43
ColonelKernelfew dozen05:43
addict02eheheh05:43
crimsunColonelKernel: no, I meant ones that do good, like cafuego and bob205:43
ColonelKerneloh yeah05:43
ugoone sec while i run the compile script again05:43
addict02sus05:43
naliothcrimsun: we have bob2 and cafuego in here....05:43
ColonelKernelcrimsun, well thankfully theyve come here05:43
sportmanhaha05:43
sportmanthat gave me even more errors nalioth05:43
sportman:-P05:43
crimsunnalioth: again proving that not everyone in #debian is uptight05:44
addict02oi05:44
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naliothsportman: paste them somewhere05:44
naliothsportman: but not here05:44
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pinkodepending on the browser, I may or may not be required to register for the new york times when I go to a news site linked from google news.05:44
pinkoanyone know what sorcery is at play?05:44
naliothpinko: cookies05:44
cvt|ubuntui can't get hoary-extras in repository, will you help me?05:44
nalioth!tell cvt|ubuntu about repos05:45
apokryphosubotu: tell cvt|ubuntu about hoary-extras05:45
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sportmannaloith05:45
ompubuntu's package management is confusing lol05:45
sportmani pm'ed u the error05:45
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pilyohi to all05:45
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naliothsportman: read this text: paste it into #flood or a pastebin05:46
pinkonalioth: I thought it might be a special package membership deal with the browser, but ok05:46
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apokryphosomp: bad idea, since (i) often considered rude to PM without requesting, (ii) not everyone in here can see the error.05:46
naliothsportman: you CANNOT send priv msgs until you register and identify with nickserv05:46
sportmani did05:46
sportmani belive?05:46
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pinkonalioth: oddly enough, elinks and w3m are handling it and opera is not05:46
sportmanahh05:46
sportmanthere we go05:46
nalioth!tell sportman about msg05:46
apokryphosnalioth: unless you select the option to allow it :P05:47
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naliothapokryphos: sorry, no that is a freenode setting, not an individual one05:47
clarkn0vai just got a wireless b card for this laptop.  can someone tell me what utility i need to run to set it up?05:47
sportmansorry bout the pm nalioth05:48
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apokryphosnalioth: what I mean is, you can set it so that you can receive /msg from non-registered members (to ovveride freenode current), but don't worry05:48
sportmanlol, but u said not to put the error in the chan05:48
sportman:-P05:48
naliothsportman: did you not get the msg from ubotu?05:48
naliothsportman: do not blindly msg people05:48
sportmanlol05:48
sportmani got it after05:48
sportman:(05:48
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ugothanks muchos05:49
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sportmanwell i messanged u, do u have any free time, cause u didnt want me to post the error in the main chan05:49
nalioth!tell sportman about paste05:49
ADRnLnping robotgeek05:49
naliothsportman: if you paste it and post your URL here, more people can help you05:49
sportmanahh05:49
DiffindoI'm trying to install the drivers for my soundcard, and in the Linux dir of my driver .zip is CALDERA, REDFLAG, and REDHAT.. Which should I use?05:49
sportmanim posting my message in #flood05:50
sportmanplease take a look if u can05:50
crimsunugo: be aware that you need to use gcc-3.4 to compile it05:50
masterlokihi there05:50
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crimsunugo: make sure the compiler you use matches the compiler listed in /proc/version05:50
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masterlokiI have a problem grub seems to have erased my win entry I want to run windows....05:50
masterlokihow do I add the windows entry05:51
pc9hi05:51
Flying-Penguinkriptic13: where do I get .Xmodmap???05:51
Flying-Penguinsorry I didn't reply05:51
Flying-PenguinI had to host a ut2k4 server and I couldn't minimize05:51
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sportmanlol05:52
naliothsportman: try "apt-get install smeg"05:52
sportmanno luck05:52
ColonelKernelFlying-Penguin, I never could figure out how to run the thing properly out of console either05:52
sportmantried that along with synaptic05:52
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apokryphossportman: ...if you have backports enabled.05:52
Flying-PenguinColonelKernel: what do you mean?05:53
jazzykayhey05:53
sportmanwhat is backports05:53
sportmanlol05:53
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nalioth!tell sportman about backports05:53
ColonelKernelFlying-Penguin, how to run the ut2k4 server in console mode, without x/gnome/etc05:53
ompdoes gnome 2.12 have a clipboard manager?05:54
apokryphosDid gnome have *no* menu-editor before smeg?05:54
jazzykayanyone have success with audigy soundcard in breezy?05:54
apokryphosor did shortcuts have to be put in manually or something05:54
naliothapokryphos: not to my knowledge05:54
crimsunjazzykay: paste the output of ''amixer'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:54
Flying-PenguinColonelKernel: I didn't run console... I played alos05:54
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apokryphosnalioth: a menu-editor seems like a fairly standard thing; why so delayed?05:54
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ompapokryphos: i don't think so, but it's not hard to create menu entries manually anyways :)05:55
apokryphosoh, thought so.05:55
Diffindocan XMMS play mpegs?05:55
apokryphosno05:55
ompDiffindo: mplayer05:55
apokryphosubotu: tell Diffindo about players05:55
jazzykaycrimsum. i am pasting it now05:55
durtdiffindo yes - get the mplayer plugin05:56
Diffindowhich one05:56
sportmanDepends: python-xdg (>=0.14) but 0.9-1 is to be installed05:56
pc9anyone care to chat wt me?05:56
DiffindoI get several with apt-get05:56
sportmanok i am close05:56
sportmanit says this depends05:56
sportman:(05:56
durtdiffindo try them all then05:57
Flying-Penguinwill someone help me?05:57
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Flying-PenguinI need to make my side scrooling work05:57
Flying-Penguinand my side buttons go back/foword05:57
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masterlokican someone tell me whereis grub.con05:57
masterlokiI can't find it05:57
crimsunmasterloki: /boot/grub/menu.lst05:57
cvt|ubuntuok, nalioth05:57
masterlokiok05:57
sportmanlol05:58
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crimsunlicensing issues05:58
cvt|ubuntunalioth, i got to the part that says, "add the following: deb http:..."  but *where* do they want me to add it?05:58
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sportmangay licensing05:58
sportmanlol05:58
cvt|ubuntucommand line?05:58
sportmancause i just want smeg so i can access bittornado05:58
jazzykayare you able to see what was pasted in paste.ubuntulinux.nl.05:59
sportmanbut if i had java i could use azaureus05:59
sportmani got the jre1.5.0_0405:59
sportmanfolder05:59
Flying-PenguinANYONE?05:59
sportmanfrom running the install scipt05:59
Diffindosigh...05:59
sportmanwhere can i put that?05:59
nalioth!tell cvt|ubuntu about sources05:59
crimsunsportman: so install the java-package package and use it to create a deb from the jre you downloaded, then install that deb05:59
DiffindoAll of this just to be able to watch some pr0n...05:59
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sportmancrimsun: i tried that05:59
sportmangot more wierd ass errors06:00
sportmani installed jpackage06:00
sportmanand that fakeroot thing06:00
sportmanstill didnt work06:00
cvt|ubuntunalioth, i'm at the bottom of that page you gave me.06:00
sportmanis there a way to take the folder that i got from running the install script06:00
sportmanand drag it somewhere?06:00
naliothwhere is amaranth, anyway?06:00
haysportman: u trying to install java?06:00
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crimsunsportman: no, use make-jpkg with the tarball you downloaded, not the extracted directory06:00
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naliothcvt|ubuntu: open with a text editor (using sudo) /etc/apt/sources.list06:00
naliothsportman: there is a learning curve here06:01
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Diffindo!players06:01
naliothsportman: nothin is forced on you here, like in other OS'06:01
ubotumethinks players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC06:01
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crimsunjazzykay: what's the issue?06:01
sportmani know there is a learning curve06:01
sportmani have messed with linux 4 a while06:01
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jazzykaycrimsum: i have no sound whatsoever06:02
sportmani just seem to be having more problems then i usually do06:02
sportmanlol06:02
mik3nalioth: just installed everything, still get: Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting.06:02
naliothsportman: go walk the dog06:02
jazzykayand i should06:02
naliothmik3: that is strange06:02
x[trick] xi just installed ubuntu on my computer.. how can i see my fat32 drive?06:02
crimsunjazzykay: are you using the analog speaker out or the optical SPDIF?06:02
mik3yeah i must admit i am flabbergasted06:02
jazzykaypretty sure it is analog06:02
aromahow can i install my cam and printer in ubntu06:02
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crimsunjazzykay: "pretty sure"?06:03
jazzykaycrim: positive06:03
jazzykaylogitech zx-560 thx speakers are not digital06:03
durtaroma, your cam might work if you just plug it in06:03
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crimsunjazzykay: does muting 'External Amplifier' resolve the issue?06:03
sportmanlook there is no place to just drag the folder?>06:03
aromareally06:03
sportmani remember doing that to get it working a while back06:03
sportmanbut i cant remember now06:03
jazzykaycrim: where the hell would i do that?06:04
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jazzykayalsamixer?06:04
aromadoes it work durt06:04
hayhow do i enable the network if i connected the network cable after the computer booted (i have only server installed, no gui)06:04
crimsunjazzykay: using any mixer, say, Volume Control, alsamixer, aumix, amixer, ...06:04
rcc_ericwhy i cant access my files on floppy drives here in ubuntu06:04
durti dont have your camera aroma, try it06:04
aromacan i used my cam if ill be in the yahoo chatroom06:05
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x[trick] xi just installed ubuntu on my computer.. how can i see my fat32 drive?06:05
pc9heeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy06:05
aromai had plug it durt06:05
durtoh i thought you meant digital camera, not webcam, sry06:06
apokryphosubotu: tell x[trick] x about windowsdrives06:06
aromayeah06:06
aromalol06:06
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aromaits my webcam06:06
aromadoes it work06:06
ghostdog!tell x[trick] x mountingwindows06:06
aromain ubuntu06:06
n00blarx[trick] x, check out in /etc/fstab and see if ubuntu sees it..most likely it does06:06
kriptic13x[trick] x: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountfat06:06
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ghostdoghow can i use a webcam in yahoomessenger in Ubunto ?06:07
aromaplease anybody could tell me how to install my webcam and printer06:07
aromayeah06:07
aromathats it06:07
jazzykaycrimsum: in multimedia systems selector.. should it be esd or alsa?06:07
durtnot sure about webcams, but i recall there is a client you can use call "gnothol" (?) dont know how its spelled06:07
aromahow can i use webcam06:07
CarlFKwhat model webcam?06:07
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aromagenius06:07
aromacam06:07
kriptic13!faq06:07
ubotufaq is, like, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)06:07
jazzykaycrimsum: i get failed to construct test pipeline for esd06:07
aromaand kokoom06:08
kaileyo.o;;06:08
Diffindo!webcam06:08
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Cicakmanhello..06:08
kaileyHello Cicakman.06:08
n00blararoma, try this site: http://www.aboutdebian.com/webcam.htm06:08
Cicakmanhow can i install fglrx driver06:08
ghostdog!webcam06:08
aromathen06:08
ugo!tell ugo about webcam06:08
Cicakmani tried to install the driver, but the acceleration is not turned on yet06:08
aromawhat is next06:08
crimsunjazzykay: lspci -v|grep -i audio06:08
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Cicakmancan anyone help me?06:09
n00blarcica, I'm having the same problem...can't find a fix for it yet06:09
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solidgroovehow do you install fonts with ubuntu?06:09
durtsolidgroove: get msttcorefonts06:09
naliothsolidgroove: you drop them in ~/.fonts usually06:09
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jazzykaycrimsum: 0000:02:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)06:09
durtor put some in ~/.fonts06:09
naliothsolidgroove: any TTF fonts will work06:09
solidgroove.fonts will work in that file?06:09
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hayhow do i enable the network if i connected the network cable after the computer booted (i have only server installed, no gui)06:10
jazzykaycrimsum: thank you in advance for helping06:10
n00blarCicakman, I think it boils down to an issue with Xorg or a conf file in xorg...I can see the module loaded on my box06:10
Cicakmann00blar: how to see if the module is loaded? lsmod?06:10
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n00blarCicakman, or try dmesg|grep fglrx06:10
CarlFKaroma - Genius VideoCAM Web V1 2 or 3?06:11
Cicakmann00blar: oops.. forgot to download the kernel module for it06:11
crimsunjazzykay: lspci -nvv 040306:11
paulproteushay: ifup eth006:11
paulproteushay: you may need to "ifdown eth0" first.06:11
naliothsolidgroove: drop your fontmame.ttf in to your ~/.fonts directory (if you dont have one, make one06:11
n00blarCicakman, make sure you get the headers for your kernel06:12
Cicakmancan i load the module in command prompt, or do i have to reboot my computer for that?06:12
solidgrooveok06:12
hayhay: ok thanks06:12
haypaulproteus: ok thanks06:12
mik3nalioth saaaaaaave me =-/06:12
jazzykaycrimsum: the switches for that command aren't working too well06:12
aroma206:12
durtdid you just thank yourself?06:12
n00blarCicakman, I think u need to reboot, I don't know a way to do it from cli06:13
aromahow do i install this V06:13
durtaroma, a network printer?06:13
aromayeah06:13
mik3nalioth : without nvu i can't publish blog entries and whine to the public about my pathetic life06:13
aromadurt06:13
aromaplease06:13
crimsunjazzykay: lspci -nvv |grep 040306:13
Cicakmanmodprobe.. but i forgot how to do it06:13
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durtaroma, is the printer on a windows machine?06:13
aromayeah06:13
Cicakmanlemme try this06:13
jazzykaycrimsum: nothing returns for that value06:13
CarlFKaroma - good news is it looks like it is supported: http://zc0302.sourceforge.net/zc0302.php?page=cams06:13
IceDragonhow do I use apt-get ot install files locally?06:13
IceDragonlike06:14
IceDragonapt-get install /home/user/Desktop/sometarfile.tgz  ?06:14
n00blarCica, I think modprobe -a module will do it06:14
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CarlFKaroma - but that doesn't mean it will be easy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras06:14
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thewayofzenbob2, around tonite?06:15
aromaah so ..06:15
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naliothIceDragon: use dpkg to install local files06:15
aromabut wait it doesnt supported yet06:16
aromaso the webcams could not still be installed06:16
aromaam i rigth06:16
aromaplsss06:16
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mik3nalioth: how about i add you an account on my box and you HELP A BROTHER OUT?!06:17
mik3=/06:17
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CarlFKaroma - depends on how much effort you want to put in06:17
aromaokay06:17
aromaill try06:17
aromahow about the printer06:18
aromai want to install it06:18
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helioshanyone know which java compiler is a good lightweight one?  I'm using Borland's Jbuilder IDE per professor's guidance, but wanted to try some commandline editing and compiling...  I'm not sure what's the barest install of the JDK compiler from SUN, I don't think I need the 100MB+ DLs... any ideas?06:18
aromaas a network printer06:18
CarlFKaroma - what printer (sorry if I missed it)06:18
aromaits hp 1010 a laser and pixma06:18
durtaroma: go to system>admin>printing06:18
Cicakmanheliosh: r u talkinga bout compiler, or IDE?06:18
crimsunjazzykay: please paste the output from ''lspci -nvv'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:19
aromawhen i click the network printer06:19
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helioshCicakman: I really just want something that will turn java into class on the commandline, so compiler I think!06:20
durtand use smb, and use the windows computers name, and use the printers name06:20
CarlFK"as a network printer" - does that mean it just has a eathernet connection, or it is hooked to a box and you want to print to it from other workstations?06:20
aromayeah06:20
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Cicakmanheliosh: then i'm quite sure that JBuilder comes with the java compiler that you can invoke from command line06:20
aromait will be connect through stations06:20
CarlFKaroma - yeah A or yeah B?06:20
durtheliosh: scite is good for coding06:20
Cicakmanheliosh: try to find 'javac'06:20
naliotheclipse06:20
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Cicakmaneclipse rocks06:21
Cicakmanbut i still prefer intellij06:21
alexandrosanyone knowe how to switch focus on mouseover?06:21
helioshCicakman: brilliant, I had an intuition that might be true... I think I actuallly have eclipse installed as well; intellij?06:21
aromayeah b06:21
DDRhey, i'm trying to find a good C++ compiler and manual, does anybody know of any good ones??06:21
jazzykaycrimsum: done06:21
aromawhat if its A or B06:21
Cicakmanintellij is quite similar to eclipse, but hell lots more functionality06:21
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aromaplease give me more details06:21
Cicakmanbut of course it comes with extra $$$06:21
helioshahh06:21
Cicakmaneclipse should be sufficient for most purposes06:22
durtaroma: did you go to the printing menu, and click install a new printer?06:22
aromawhat must be the next if ill click network06:22
aromayeah06:22
aromadurt06:22
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aromaim in step 2 now06:22
aromasorry step 106:23
Cicakmann00blar!!!! welcome back! i've configured my ATI 3d acceleration06:23
durtok, use from the pulldown menu "windows smb"06:23
helioshCicakman: jetbrains.com is the correct home of the Intellij package you use?06:23
n00blarCicakman, nice!!...what did u do?06:23
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Cicakmanyup06:23
geezis it possible to look at the source code for basic shell commands like 'rm' 'mv' etc?06:23
Cicakmann00blar: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:23
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Cicakmann00blar: where it says " Driver  "ati" "06:23
Cicakmann00blar : change to :06:24
aromawhen i click  the network printer what next06:24
Cicakmann00blar: Driver  "fglrx"06:24
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CarlFKgeez - yes.  worst case, look into gentoo06:24
Cicakmanheliosh: yup06:24
aromai was confused what must i click in the right box06:24
naliothgeez: i believe you want coreutils06:24
n00blarCicakman, mine says that and when I run fglrxinfo...Mesa still comes up :(06:24
jazzykaycrimsum: i just installed beep and that is playing my mp3s. but rhythmbox is not.06:25
Cicakmann00blar: ummm....06:25
geeznalioth: from the ubuntu repositories?06:25
Cicakmann00blar: did u try lsmod | grep fglrx ?06:25
helioshI found javac Cicakman, I installed into my home dir (the default) and it's /home/heliosh/Borland/JBuilder2005/jdk1.4/bin/javac but I guess I need to add their bin to my PATH to make it work06:25
n00blarCicakman, Yes, I get this: fglrx                 245412  706:25
n00blaragpgart                32328  2 intel_agp,fglrx06:25
crimsunjazzykay: in System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector, what is the Default Audio Sink set to?06:25
jazzykaycrimsum: any ideas? as well what is the signifcance of multimedia systems selector06:25
Cicakmanheliosh: yup06:25
jazzykaycrimsum: defualt is ESD06:26
Cicakmanheliosh: then you can just type 'javac something.java" to compile,  and "java something" to run it06:26
Cicakmanheliosh: dont forget to set environment variable JAVA_HOME06:26
durtaroma, choose windows computer (smb)06:26
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crimsunjazzykay: what is beep's audio output plugin set to?06:26
aromayeah i did it06:26
Cicakmann00blar: umm... i'm afraid i can't help any further :( what ATI card do you have?06:26
jazzykaycrimsum: when i run test for pipeline esdsink i get "failed to construct test pipeline of ;ESD Enlightenment Sound Daemon'06:26
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durtaroma, put in the name of your windows computer in host06:27
n00blarCicakman, the 9800XT Pro06:27
jdermercan ubuntu read HFS partitions06:27
crimsunjazzykay: look at beep's preferences> plugins> output06:27
Cicakmann00blar: mine is Radeon X30006:27
dhonnwhat is the best way to install JRE06:27
jazzykaycrimsum: oss output plugin06:27
durtand put the name of the printer in printer06:27
aromaill have to choose now06:27
helioshCicakman: JAVA_HOME? ok, I've not heard of that; will look it up thanks06:27
n00blarCicakman, it's a weird one..I've been reading forums and try everything and still nothing :(06:27
crimsunjazzykay: then set Multimedia Systems Selector's Default Audio Sink to osssink06:27
durtyou can probably just ignore hte username and pass06:27
aromawhat will be the next install or aply06:27
aromadurt06:27
jazzykaycrimsum: thanks. that did it06:28
Cicakmanheliosh: JAVA_HOME should point to the java directory. In your case, it would be /home/heliosh/Borland/JBuilder2005/jdk1.4/06:28
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dhonn/etc/alternatives/java points to the gcj version06:28
Cicakmanheliosh: without the / in the end06:28
crimsunoff for a tick06:28
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Cicakmann00blar... i can't remember the guy from ubuntu who's in charge of video drivers...06:28
durtaroma, install installs a new driver, i dont think you need that06:28
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todd_i have tried installing suse 9.3, ubuntu hoary, and ubuntu breezy, and i have had no sound each time06:28
aromahyeah06:28
aromayeah durt06:29
durtnow choose the printer you have from the menu06:29
todd_what would be the problem?06:29
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Kioshihi06:29
aromaso ill just click apply06:29
jazzykaycrimsum: next big question.. how do i get all 4 speakers to work?06:29
Cicakmantodd_: maybe you are just having the same problem as me before....06:29
Kioshisomeone talk spanish here :) ?06:29
aromaok durt06:29
Cicakmantodd_: do you have dell computer?06:29
todd_gateway laptop06:29
sjjHi, i've just upgraded from warty to hoary, and now whenever I attempt to load the 'ipw2200' (intel pro wireless) module I get an error about it being unable to load the firmware.06:29
aromathe printer is already ready06:29
sjjanyone seen this before?06:29
aromabut ill try ti first06:29
todd_i have tried EVERYTHING06:29
aromathanks durt06:30
aromanow my problem is all my webcam06:30
sjjThe weird thing is, I also get this error when I boot my old warty kernel06:30
durtso it works now? and you can print a test page?06:30
_____anderson_#foz06:30
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aromahow can i used it in the yahoo messenger and how can i view webcams of the others06:30
n00blarsjj, I remember seeing that error with suse 9.3...there's a kernel patch for that...i think06:30
aromaples pls06:30
bdt1805does anyone know where ubuntu keeps its start up log?06:30
todd_im starting to think there might be something wrong with my sound card06:30
Cicakmani'm looking forward for suse 10.006:31
sportmannm06:31
sjjn00blar: I'm thinking it must be something in userland, because it happens even on my old warty kernel now.06:31
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cvt|ubuntunalioth, thx06:31
naliothcvt|ubuntu: np, anytime06:31
sjjn00blar: so it must have been something else that was changed as part of the dist-upgrade06:31
sjj(maybe hotplug, or something)06:31
n00blarsjj, well, some Intel guy has a project for iw2000 drivers and he's got the kernel firmware on his page06:31
todd_strange thing was my sound worked when i originally had hoary installed, then i installed suse and no sound06:31
n00blarsjj, yes, if you upgrade kernel u need to re-run patch06:32
bdt1805whats everyone's favorite linux os? im thinking of installing a new os to multiboot on my second hdd06:32
naliothbdt1805: you should ask your question in #freenode, not here06:32
sjjn00blar: rerun 'patch' ?06:33
bdt1805free node? oh ok sorry06:33
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n00blarsjj, yes..the kernel firmware from the Intel guy's website06:33
sjjubuntu couldn't do this for me?06:34
geeznalioth: where would the source for coreutils be found?06:34
durtaroma, is you cam here: http://zc0302.sourceforge.net/zc0302.php?page=cams06:34
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sjj(I don't think i'm using the ipw2200 project driver, i'm just using the one that comes with the kernel)06:34
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aromanone06:35
n00blarhmm...06:35
todd_is there something i could enter into the terminal that would hint to a damaged sound card?06:35
aromait is genuis v 206:35
aromaonly06:35
aromakocom cam06:36
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durtthis aroma?: http://www.geniusnet.com.tw/product/product-1.asp?pdtno=11806:37
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ELpH95owhat'sup06:40
ELpH95oubuntu is nice06:40
aromadurt ubuntu doesnt support this webcam only win xp06:41
citrus_can anyone tell me what the best/most_popular/easiest ID3 tag and file editor there is  avail for linux?06:41
todd_what are some diagnostics i can perform to test my sound.  i have no sound06:41
durtaroma, but some folks might have wrote up some drivers or something, google it some06:41
aromaok ill try06:42
aromadurt06:42
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ELpH95oi have sound perfectly06:43
ELpH95owhat kidn of computer you have todd?06:43
todd_gateway 4540gz laptop06:43
oolonhi all i got an ati vid card i was looking for a how to and only found one in italian any english one to get 3d running?06:43
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todd_ive been trying to figure this out for weeks06:44
ELpH95oi only have a intel cely 80006:44
bdt1805what kind of ati card is it?06:44
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ELpH95oand  ati+sblive06:44
ELpH95o:)works perfect for me06:44
ELpH95oat least06:44
oolonbdt1805, a radeon 955006:44
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todd_hmm06:44
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todd_would there be a conflict or something?06:45
durtalsaconf todd_06:45
todd_because everything is unmuted06:45
todd_let me try that06:45
bdt1805im running a radeon 9200, the drivers that come with ubuntu are fine for me, but i dont use 3d too much, you might try ati's site06:45
TheRepublicis there a way to view avi files in ubuntu live cd  version  ?06:45
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ELpH95oi mostly use audio tools06:45
ELpH95oi worship sound apps in linux06:46
Madpilot!tell oolon about ati06:46
durtbtw, sound is hassleless in breezy, if youre using hoary06:46
Flying-Penguinhow do I install evdev???06:46
oolonMadpilot,  thanks06:46
aromai find it hard durt what must i do to install my webcam06:46
aromahuh06:46
helioshdurt they've smoothed sound issues?  no more fiddling with alsa and esd to get sound working?06:46
todd_my sound worked the first time i installed ubuntu (hoary), but then i thought id test out suse.  after that it didnt work06:46
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ianhey06:48
aromai cant find how to install genius webcam v 2 in the site06:48
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aromafor linux06:48
n00blarAnyone knows if there's a way to run K3b in Ubuntu? the cd application that comes with it is kind of lame06:48
todd_alsaconf does not run06:48
iancan someone point me to the repositories list for ubuntu 5.04?06:48
ELpH95ogood at any low level coding?06:48
helioshn00blar: I've run K3b in Ubuntu a bunch, but prefer gnomebaker or commandline cdrecord06:49
nalioth!tell ian about sources06:49
iani searched in the wiki but didn't find a list, just instructions on how to add them06:49
Madpilot!tell ian about repos06:49
ianthanks man06:49
aromawher should i go if i want to use this cam06:49
n00blarheliosh, gnomebaker? can I dl that from apt-get?06:49
Madpilotian: follow the 2nd URL in that msg from ubotu06:49
helioshyes n00blar06:49
n00blarheliosh, cool, let me try that one...thanks06:50
ianthanks, again, c ya06:50
aromahey got to go ill just ask again about it later thanks and c y a06:50
helioshk3b did weird things to this config file called .ICEauthority and I repeatedly had to re chown this file to regain access to the X environment (any graphics)06:50
todd_how do i launch alsa-utils?06:50
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Flying-Penguinwhere do I get the xorg-sdk???06:51
naliothheliosh: its a known problem with .ICEauthority06:51
ELpH95oany coders here06:51
ELpH95o?06:51
naliothheliosh: the most common method is to rm .ICEauthority when it acts up (it gets recreated each session, anyway)06:51
Flying-PenguinOK GOD DAMNIT06:51
ELpH95oi want to start a midi sequencer project06:51
Flying-PenguinHOW DO I GET MY INTELLIMOUSE WORKING?06:51
naliothFlying-Penguin: no more caps, please06:52
MadpilotFlying-Penguin: yelling probably won't help...06:52
Flying-Penguinwell...06:52
helioshyes, I was grateful to find answers to it on forums nalioth; I was recommending gnome-based burner to n00blar citing that bug as one reason to prefer gnomebaker to k3b06:52
Flying-Penguinasking for hours without anyone saying anything is going to piss me off06:52
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naliothheliosh: actually it's nautilus that causes the .ICEauthority problem06:52
ELpH95oqu8estion:if i compile alsa could i overwrite the current alsa configuration?06:52
helioshnalioth what wm do you run?06:52
durtjust get a friggin 50cent mouse at happy harry's or something06:52
naliothFlying-Penguin: if the knowledge isnt here, yelling about it isnt gonna bring in into the channel06:52
naliothheliosh: gnome usually06:53
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naliothheliosh: most of my productivity is done in a terminal, tho06:53
marinii can't access my floopy disk pls help me06:53
n00blarI've always used K3b and never had problems with it..then again I've always used either suse or fc on kde06:54
helioshI like gnome on a fast computer, but have grown quite happy with xfce as I'm a teacher and have it installled on a bunch of old boxes in my classroom, my sense is it lightens and speeds things up quite a bit06:54
durtyeah xfce is what im on now :)06:54
durtmuch faster than gnome06:54
ELpH95oyou're a teacher heliosh ?06:54
naliothheliosh: yes xfce4 is quite snappy06:54
ELpH95owhat part of Earth are you at ?06:55
helioshdurt: or anyone know how to edit the system entries within the xfce right-click menu?  would that be done via the gnome menu-editor?  yes ELpH95o 2nd grade :-)06:55
todd_what does it mean when it says "cant construct test pipeline" when i test sound06:55
chavoheliosh, xfce has it's own menu editor06:55
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durthit the settings button06:55
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helioshchavo, yes I've used that but it doesn't dip into the "system Menu", or rather that part of the menu is inaccessible I thought06:56
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prolificanyone here using a DVB card ?06:56
misterdiffhow can i add png images next to the usernames on the login screen?06:56
chavoheliosh, you can edit any part of the menu06:56
durtsettings>destop>menu>"edit desktop menu"06:56
ELpH95onope06:56
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marinihello... is there can help me06:57
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durtask marini06:57
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marinii can't access my floopy disk06:58
mariniwhat should i do06:58
ELpH95owherez everyone here from?06:58
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durtinternal floppy?06:58
ELpH95o<-- in USA06:58
helioshdurt, chavo in that XFce4-MenuEditor dialog I see about 8 editable entries, and halfway down a --include-- system entry, from where the bulk of the other entries are pulled or hooked in from soem other menu I think06:58
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chavoheliosh, ah right, it's been a while since I used xfce06:59
durtyeah, heliosh, i havent figured out how to edit that, but you can comment it out and add your own stuff instead06:59
mariniyes....when i use nautilus my floopy was detected but i can't access it07:00
oolonMadpilot, can i flood in #squat to show you my output of fglrx and glxgears?07:00
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Madpilot!pastebin07:01
ubotusomebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:01
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Madpilotoolon: paste instead, then put the URL here07:01
oolonMadpilot, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/224207:02
ELpH95oubotu, :you in holland?07:02
ubotuELpH95o: Syntax error in line 107:02
Madpilot!+ubotu07:03
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/07:03
oolonELpH95o, ubotu is a bot07:03
ELpH95ooolon, :you in holland ?07:04
oolonnope ELpH95o but id like to be07:04
CompBrainanyone know anything about the /dev/sda does not have a corresponding bios drive error message on grub install?07:04
durtheliosh, what file manager do you use in xfce?07:05
ELpH95onot I CompBrain07:05
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=== ELpH95o is wondering if there's a way to get a higher version of alsa in ubuntu
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Madpilotoolon: those numbers look a bit low - I get ~1600-1700 FPS with my 9600XT - but glxgears is NOT totally reliable. How do actual 3d apps/games run?07:05
ELpH95ofor building audio applications07:05
helioshdurt: I just use commandline for file management07:05
oolonMadpilot, got any i can apt or easy to install to try?07:06
helioshdurt: once in a while I use the default one whatever it's called xffm or something; it's not very intuitive for me though07:06
Madpilotoolon: Scorched3d is in the Ubuntu repos - it's a fun game anyway07:06
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jr_astig01hi07:07
durthow do you get glxgears to output the fps?07:07
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oolonMadpilot, thanks! btw im leeching and have a few distributed apps running in the backround07:07
Madpilotdurt: open it from the command line07:07
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Madpilotoolon: me too, I run six virtual desktops and currently about 15 tabs open in Opera too...07:07
oolondurt just type glxgears in terminal07:08
durtmadpilot: i did, and i got some gears spinning and thats all07:08
oolonMadpilot, and still 1600 fps07:08
dleHdo i dynamically load apache2 modules?  mod_rewrite, in particular?   I have mod_rewrite enabled as a symlink: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/rewrite.load.  However, 'apache2ctl -l' doesn't list it, and this behaviour suggests that's so.  Running hoary.07:08
dles/Hdo/How do/07:08
No1VikingAre there any application for linux alike route66, the road planner?07:08
oolondurt wait it will appear in the terminal window07:08
Madpilotoolon: yeah; 1.9Ghz XPM w/ 1Gb RAM plus the 9600XT...07:09
durtwait for how long oolon?07:09
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oolonMadpilot, whoah scorched3d is 75mb07:10
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Madpilotdurt: glxgears should post FPS every few seconds to the terminal window...07:10
oolondurt is it still howing the gears?07:10
oolonshowing*07:10
drapelykwhat's the linux equivalent to tracert to resolve hostnames?07:10
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oolondrapelyk, traceroute i think07:10
durtive had the glxgears window on for some time now, but now output is in the terminal07:10
drapelykha, thanks07:11
BlueEagledrapelyk: traceroute?07:11
Madpilotdurt: and you started it from the command terminal?07:11
durtyup07:11
drapelykit's not working07:11
BlueEagledrapelyk: sudo traceroute07:11
drapelykk07:11
drapelykcommand not found07:11
BlueEagledrapelyk: install traceroute first then. :)07:12
Juhaztraceroute isn't installed in ubuntu by default, which is damn strange, not to mention stupid07:12
drapelykhow do I install it? synaptic?07:12
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silvertondrapelyk, sudo apt-get install tracerouter07:12
silvertoner, without that last r07:12
florghi. installed ubuntu 5.10: rhythmbox can't load most of my mp3's and all movies are played withou sound - is there some codecs missing? how can i fix that?07:13
durtoh well, glxgears isnt that important07:13
Madpilotback later - real world interupt...07:13
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silvertonflorg, yes, I don't think ubuntu ships with mp3 support07:13
florgsilverton, how can i get mp3 support?07:14
n00blarflorg, get xmms07:14
florgwhich packages etx07:14
durt!restricted07:14
uboturestricted is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:14
CompBrainamd64 support seems to suck.07:14
helioshso I remember in gnome there's a menu editor you can dl and install; If I remember correctly there is NO way to manually edit the ascii files that load the gnome menus correct?  anyone know?07:14
n00blarI apt-get xmms and I can play my mp3s07:14
silvertonwow...  was ubotu written by the same person that did the one in #debian?07:15
BlueEaglen00blar: good for you.07:15
silvertonCompBrain, probably better off with debian for that07:15
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ompi still can't decide whether to get livecd or install cd of breezy07:15
silvertonomp, get livecd to make sure your hardware works with it :P07:16
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florgyes, xmms works. but i want rhythmbox to play my files and movies to have sound...07:16
CompBrainsilverton: debian is worse off07:16
CompBrainat least ubuntu is using 2.6.1207:16
silvertonflorg, do what that link I sent you tells you to do07:16
CompBrainwhich supports dual core07:16
ompsilverton: i guess i'll just get the livecd since i'm not switching to ubuntu anytime soon07:16
silvertonCompBrain, use unstable then...07:16
oolonMadpilot, not sure what im doing in the game :)07:16
ELpH95oim using ubuntu 5.0407:16
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florgthx07:17
silvertonbreezy == unstable07:17
silvertonflorg, get my link?07:17
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silvertonomp, I still haven't gotten a gentoo install to work correctly >.<  I feel so noobish07:18
florgyes07:18
silvertonflorg, good :)07:18
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BlueEaglesilverton: As long as you follow the instructions you should be ok to be honest.07:18
Quequegis breezy/unstable == gentoo/testing Or gentoo/unstable?07:18
BlueEaglesilverton: I still haven't gotten a gentoo install to _not_ work. :p07:18
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ompsilverton: it's very easy.. the install guide is VERY detailed07:19
Dr_willisbreezy is working very well on  my Turion64 based laptop... Weee!07:19
silvertonBlueEagle, heh, yeah, I do follow the instructions...  that I thought at least >.<07:19
BlueEaglequequeg: None of them afaik.07:19
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QuequegBlueEagle, that's not helpful.07:19
ompi like gentoo because it has good performance07:19
ompsince you compile everything yourself07:20
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durtheliosh, you might as well just add your apps to the menu from scratch, by hand07:20
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Dr_willisomp,  i never saw that give me much of a gain07:20
silvertonomp, in all honesty, it doesn't really make THAT much of a difference07:20
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Dr_willisof course a mistake in your flags could make some things worse.. i guess as well.07:20
ompand my vid card performs a lot better in gentoo07:20
helioshdurt: I can't seem to hide what it's pulling in from gnome... although I suppose I could move or chmod/hide access to /usr/share/applications which is where gnome menu seems to get its data07:20
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Rotundanyone here have a problem getting their airport to work?07:21
BlueEaglequequeg: One of my many trademarks. :)07:21
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durtheliosh, you might have to restart the panel (i forget the command though)07:21
naliothRotund: airport extreme will not work under linux07:21
Micksawhere to module cmdline options go?07:21
MicksaI need to pass one to psmouse07:21
durtor restart x07:21
MicksaI can add the module to /etc/modules I guess07:21
naliothheliosh: open a terminal and type "killall gnome-panel" to restart your panel07:22
Micksabut like, can't you get hotplug to pass it? that'd be neater07:22
silvertondurt, it's sudo killall gnome-panel07:22
helioshnalioth: i'm in xfce407:22
durthes in xfce07:22
silvertonohh, okay07:22
helioshbe right back :-)07:22
Rotundnalioth: it is not an extreme07:22
naliothheliosh: kill whatever your panel is07:22
naliothRotund: your airport should work ootb07:23
RotundShould... yup07:23
RotundI can't even get it to work w/ fiddling07:23
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RotundI think it may be choosing the incorrect firmware or something07:23
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Rotundnalioth: It DOES work under OSX and I am POSITIVE it is the 11Mbps verison07:24
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Rotundjoin #apple07:24
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Rotunddoh07:24
durtyeah nalioth, its xfc4-panel thankx07:24
naliothRotund: it has two ##07:25
Rotundyup07:25
durtany luck heliosh?07:25
helioshhehe not yet07:26
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durtoh and, heliosh, do you know how to turn off the system sounds and beeps?07:26
heliosha total tangent to what I was doing, but you all reminded me somehow of it and I guess steady improvements although small make one happy in the longrun; no durt, I don't get beeps very often; hardly ever07:27
durtok07:28
durtmaybe ill just go delete some stuff07:28
nomasteryoda|wdurt, as root07:29
nomasteryoda|w=)07:29
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ngmlinuxanyone know any good sites that explain how to write Java (or C) programs that can read and right to serial ports?07:30
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yawgmoth7Is anybody having a problem with apt-get install?07:32
yawgmoth7For some reason i cant install any of the packages07:33
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yawgmoth7Like07:33
yawgmoth7Ill do07:33
yawgmoth7sudo apt-get install ethereal07:33
yawgmoth7And it says that isnt a package07:33
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yawgmoth7And it says that ettercap isnt07:33
yawgmoth7And lots of differnet things07:33
yawgmoth7So im wondering if something has changed07:33
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chickboiechello all07:33
durtyou need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the commented repos07:33
chickboiecanybody uses wine?07:34
robotgeeknot terribly busy here07:34
BlueEaglechickboiec: I've got it installed...07:34
chickboiecor winex07:34
yawgmoth7Ok07:34
yawgmoth7Thanks07:34
yawgmoth7Ill try07:34
chickboiecblue eagle, version 5.04?07:34
durtwine pisses me off07:34
BlueEaglechickboiec: I'll have to reboot to find out.07:35
chickboiecno07:35
chickboiectype uname07:35
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yawgmoth7What is a repo07:35
BlueEaglechickboiec: ?07:36
yawgmoth7besides07:36
chickboiecnevermind07:36
yawgmoth7sources.list is read-only07:36
chickboiecgo ahead tnx07:36
BlueEagleoh, you're thinking about ubuntu version. I thought you were talking about wine version.07:36
BlueEaglechickboiec: I've got breezy installed atm.07:36
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BlueEagleyawgmoth7: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list07:36
BlueEagleyawgmoth7: you need to be super-user to modify it.07:36
chickboiecah07:37
chickboiecok what wine version07:37
chickboiecbreezy is for?07:37
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chickboiecdidnt check man07:37
chickboiecsorry07:37
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durtyawgmoth7: sudo gedit /apt/sources.list07:38
durtsee the ubuntu wiki07:38
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edu---can we play online games in ubuntu... such as ragnarok, mu and other rpg games07:38
BlueEaglechickboiec: Well, I'd need to rebott to find that out.07:38
yawgmoth7Thanks, im doing that rihgt now, and then i take out the # infront of the lines and stuff?07:38
BlueEaglechickboiec: uname on this box sais Linux terje 2.6.12-gentoo-r9 #1 Wed Aug 24 07:42:27 CEST 2005 i686 Pentium III (Coppermine) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux :p07:38
yawgmoth7Lines like:07:38
yawgmoth7deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe07:39
yawgmoth7That stuff?07:39
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BlueEagle!repos07:39
uboturumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96907:39
durttake that out of the lines that start with "deb" - yes07:39
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phempahowdy pholks07:39
BlueEagleyawgmoth7: read that url ubotu coughed up.07:39
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yawgmoth7Ok, im sorry, i really no nothing about linux07:39
derek[] Hi07:39
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derek[] How debian is ubuntu?07:40
phempaquick question.... I accidentally removed what would be the equivalent to Window's system tray from the top right corner..... what can I do to get that back?07:40
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DjKriticalphempa, right cloick on the panel, and select add to panel07:40
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BlueEaglederek[] : ubuntu is about as debian as java is c afaik07:41
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Myrttinotification panel07:41
phempahmm07:41
Myrttinotification area07:41
phempaI tried that, but it's not back07:41
Myrttidoh07:41
durtyeah ubuntu is slow as a monkey07:41
DjKriticalderek[] , very similar, but also very different.... I'd say... debian is better for servers etc... and ubuntu is better as a desktop pc...07:41
derek[] hm07:42
derek[] why?07:42
phempalike, for Azureus's tray icon07:42
Myrttiphempa: right click on the panell, add to panel, notification area?07:42
Joe41why is it slow as a monkey?07:42
phempatried that Myrtti07:42
phempadidnt do it07:42
Myrttio.007:42
BlueEagledurt: That was not what I tried to convey with that analogy.07:42
DjKriticaldurt: my ubuntu is ultra fast, you must have installed yours wrong or something07:42
BlueEaglederek[] : ubuntu is based on debian, so they are quite similar. However there are differences.07:42
durtslow as a lazy monkey then07:42
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durtat least on my older comp07:43
KyralDefine old07:43
Joe41would you suggest anouter linux dist??07:43
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KyralAre we talking 5 years ago old07:43
derek[] BlueEagle, are the kernels diff.?07:43
Kyralor 10 years ago old07:43
Kyraland holy shit I should be going to bed07:43
fmasiHi can some one tell me wy my downloads in synaptic are so slow07:43
BlueEaglederek[] : There are different patches in ubuntu than in debian afaik.07:43
edu---can we play online games in ubuntu... such as ragnarok, mu and other rpg games07:44
Kyralfmasi, is it a recent slowdown?07:44
durtarg - its quarter of 207:44
DjKriticalfmasi, you may have the wrong geographical location setyup for your pc07:44
BlueEaglefmasi: because you're not using your closest mirror?07:44
KyralAnyway I'm going to bed07:44
Kyralno one start a flame war without me07:44
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BlueEaglenot sure which mirror is closest to brazil. Besides it's a big country. :)07:45
jtan325anyone here use breezy?07:45
chickboiecim having problems with dependencies07:45
BlueEaglejtan325: I've got it installed.07:45
fmasiI just istal ubuntu so very ew to it07:45
jtan325BlueEagle, where is sunj2re-1.5?07:45
fmasii was i gentoo07:45
jtan325and w32codecs?07:45
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chickboiechow is it going with breezy?07:46
jtan325or is there a "backports" for breezy07:46
edu---can we play online games in ubuntu... such as ragnarok, mu and other rpg games07:46
jtan325although that doesn't really make sense07:46
chickboieccan u install breezy right away?07:46
durthoary backports07:46
Kyraljtan325, use the Haory Backports07:46
p0windahchickboiec: you sure can07:46
BlueEaglejtan325: Not sure. I haven't had use for either of those.07:46
pauldaousthey, has anyone upgraded today and had a catastrophic failure?07:46
jtan325hmmm ok07:46
pauldaoustas in, snd-intel8x0 not existing in /etc/modules?07:46
chickboieci mean winex or wine07:46
derek[] <BlueEagle> derek[] : There are different patches in ubuntu than in debian afaik.07:46
derek[] what patches?07:46
pauldaoustsorry, didn't mean to say /etc/modules07:46
fmasiI downloding stuf at max 17k normaly i do 3207:46
pauldaoustI meant to say that the module doesn't exit.07:46
pauldaoustexist07:47
BlueEaglederek[] : kernel patches.07:47
derek[] ok07:47
Kyralchickboiec, if you aren't prepared to get major **** ups in Breezy, don't do it. Its still in development07:47
jtan325Kyral, what?07:47
chickboiecok07:47
jtan325it's not so bad07:47
BlueEaglederek[] : didn't you ask about kernel differences in debian and ubuntu?07:47
chickboieci will stick with 5.0407:47
durtbreezy has fewer cuff ups than hoary07:47
chickboieci just have problems with using winetools07:48
chickboieccant install it07:48
Kyraljtan325, Right now it seems like a lot of beginners have it in there heads that "I want the NEWEST!" and Breezy is technically the newest07:48
chickboiecforums says it has problems with the way the package is built07:48
ompthis is killing me07:48
Kyralwhat they DON'T realize is that its also in development07:48
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jtan325hehe07:48
jtan325i guess if you are a first-timer07:49
ompi install ubuntu, then gentoo, then ubuntu, then gentoo, etc.07:49
Kyralso even this late in the game showstopper bugs can kill you07:49
chickboieckyral, dsl1 ring a bell?07:49
ompi'm having trouble deciding07:49
omp=[07:49
durtbut breezy works better than hoary, development or not07:49
BlueEagleomp: Why don't you install both?07:49
Kyralchickboiec, wha....07:49
Kyraldurt, but there are still killer bugs07:49
ompBlueEagle: what am i going to do with two? :)07:49
Dr_willisdurt,  works better for me ;) on my Turion64 laptop!07:49
chickboiecthe dsl1 at the last part of every package07:49
ELpH95owhich version of ubuntu u using?07:49
Kyralthe wha?07:49
BlueEagledurt: That depends on how you define "work better". Localization is not finished or nearly as good in .10 as it is in .0407:49
chickboiec0407:50
KyralI'm no package maintainer07:50
BlueEagleomp: Use the one you feel like using that particular day.07:50
Kyraland I REALLY have to go to bed07:50
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chickboieci mean i always get that package problem07:50
durtits friday night kyral, you dont need to go to bed07:50
chickboieccan ubuntu run wine?07:50
durtyes07:50
BlueEaglechickboiec: yes.07:51
chickboiecwinetools?07:51
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Dr_willis:)07:51
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Dr_williswhats winetools ?07:51
Dr_willis>hic<07:51
chickboiecu use it after installing wine07:51
chickboieci suppose07:51
BlueEagledr_willis: tall glasses07:51
Dr_willisi never have :P07:51
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BlueEagledr_willis: like the stuff you use to enjoy wine.07:51
chickboieclolz07:52
Dr_willisBlueEagle,  a cork puller? :P07:52
ompwinetools is horrible07:52
chickboiecso what do u suggest?07:52
ompi just get wine, then use winesetuptk to configure it07:52
Dr_williswine /foo/sol.exe07:52
BlueEagledr_willis: No, no, no. That's bottleutils.deb07:52
Dr_williswhat mor tools do ya need/07:52
chickboiectnx07:52
chickboiecwinesetuptk07:52
Dr_willis:)07:52
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ompwinetools is just a way of installing software in wine (probably made for noobs)07:53
solidgroovei did a ubuntu update and now I have no text in the buttons on installing of half-life2 with cedega07:53
Dr_willishmmm07:54
chickboieccedega aint free right\?07:54
Dr_willisnot really :P07:54
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chickboieccvs?07:54
Dr_williscedega-cvs is free07:54
solidgroovenot cvs07:54
chickboieccdga-cvs07:54
Dr_willisits worht supporting07:54
Dr_willisits cheap07:54
K-BayHmm... for some hellish reason after upgrading to Breezy, my sawfish has stopped displaying window titles. Moroever, xterm can't get right fonts running saying: unable to open font "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-140-75-75-c-90-iso8859-2", trying "fixed"....07:54
solidgroovebut I dont have a membership to get a new version07:54
solidgrooveand I have no text now I cant read the buttons07:54
sproingieargh.  has anyone successfully installed IE under wine cvs?07:54
Dr_willissproingie,  Blasphmy!07:55
durtwhat are you smoking sproingie?07:55
sproingiebelieve it or not some people use wine07:55
edu---can we play online games in ubuntu... such as ragnarok, mu and other rpg games07:55
Dr_willisbelive it or not. :P not everyone needs IE.07:56
sproingiei'm entirely too frustrated to listen to the highly novel notions of people that might actually hate windows, unbelievable as that might be07:56
Dr_willisi use wine to forget.....07:56
edu---can we play online games in ubuntu... such as ragnarok, mu and other rpg games07:56
Dr_willisi dont hate windows. :P just some of the idiotic things windows does.07:56
durti dont hate windows, but why do you need IE?07:56
BlueEaglesproingie: it's ok to use wine. Also it's ok to install IE in wine as long as you do it because another app won't install without it. If you stall IE because you want to browse with it in wine that's sacrelige.07:56
sproingiedurt: reasonable question.  so i can use all of picasa under wine07:56
derek[] does the apt-get work in Ubuntu?07:56
Dr_willisderek[] ,  errr yes.07:57
chickboiecyes07:57
Dr_willis:P07:57
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sproingiedurt: attempting to install the mozilla control is a complete loss.  i thought IE might be installable07:57
BlueEaglederek[] : Have you had a look at the ubuntu pages?07:57
Dr_willisive had great luck with the mozilla controll feature and cedega07:57
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K-BayHeck I hate when fonts get messed on X ;-) It gets worse than Windows :P07:57
sproingiebut apparently it only installs with special tools on specific versions released under the sign of mars on odd numbered thursdays07:57
durttheres probably some linux alternative to picasa07:58
derek[] BlueEagle, ubuntu's website?07:58
chickboiecblue, do u use wine to play nt games?07:58
Dr_willisand the eula has to be written goats blood also sproingie  dont forget07:58
sproingiedurt: digikam, but frankly its editing controls suck07:58
_rb_is there actually a problem with the nvidia cards and 5.04 ?07:58
derek[] K-Bay, :/07:58
jtan325hmmmm07:58
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jtan325i added hoary backports as specified in UbuntuBackports on the wiki07:59
jtan325(i'm using breezy)07:59
silvertonHow do I force eject a CD?07:59
durtwhat about gofoto, sproingie?07:59
jtan325but sun-jre-1.5 and azureus don't seem to be around07:59
silvertondennis@ghost:~$ eject /dev/hdc07:59
silvertoneject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument07:59
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sproingiepicasa has the "i'm feeling lucky" normalizing button, and when that's no good, it has backlight and neutral color detector07:59
BlueEaglederek[] : Yes. Browse stuff like documentation and how-tos and such.07:59
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derek[] k07:59
NiLzhi07:59
sproingieabsolutely NOTHING like that in any linux prog i've seen07:59
NiLzwhere's rc.local?07:59
BlueEaglederek[] : Very easy way to get answer to what you want to know. :)08:00
florgwow. everything perfect : ) thanks again08:00
durtsproingie, or f-spot08:00
sproingieguess i can try those.  fspot wasnt so good last i looked at it08:00
sproingiebut that was a while ago08:00
derek[] :)08:01
durti havent used any of them, so dont listen to me08:01
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derek[] man.. I'm still not able to decide whether to go for debian or ubuntu08:01
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derek[] I just don't want unnecessary stuff to install on my disk08:02
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derek[] like KDE08:02
derek[] unnecessary and huge08:02
uboontooHey guys can someone tell me how to change the default ubuntu splash screen into one i just downloaded from gnome-look.org08:02
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tritiumderek[] , kde is not installed by default08:02
derek[] k tritium08:02
jtan325Kyral, how should i use the hoary backports?08:03
Dr_willisi just insalle kde :P08:03
Dr_willislol08:03
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jtan325i edited /etc/apt/source.list08:03
BlueEaglederek[] : Are you on dialup or very short for time?08:03
derek[] but it has gnome though?08:03
jtan325and did the update08:03
jtan325but i don't see any jre08:03
derek[] BlueEagle,  no :)08:03
tritiumyes, derek[] 08:03
BlueEaglederek[] : Then try both and make up your own mind please.08:03
derek[] BlueEagle, well.. I'm on ADSL.. but my monthly bandwidth is limited to 1 GB08:03
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BlueEaglederek[] : Well ubuntu ships CDs to you for free.08:04
derek[] BlueEagle, I've ordered them.. but they're taking time08:04
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silverton:O  monthly bandwidth liumit???08:04
silvertonI'd kill myself08:04
sproingiegofoto looks extremely primitive.  maybe f-stop08:04
finiteBlueEagle, not asof right now they don't ship them08:04
finiteno more til breezy, right?08:04
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derek[] silverton, :/08:04
syndanyone wanna walk me thru mounting an NFS share?08:04
BlueEaglefinite: That should have been noted on the site tbh.08:04
sproingieer fspot08:04
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silvertonderek[] , :O08:05
derek[away] brb08:05
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BlueEaglesynd: mounting or sharing?08:05
tritiumsilverton, that sounds like an addiction ;008:05
uboontoohey Synd, http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs08:05
syndBlueEagle: i need to mount a share08:05
durtmy home directory is such a mess...08:05
sproingietch.  nope, no decent editing in fspot either08:05
ompif i install ubuntu, will i be able to stop gdm from starting at boot? ( i want to have a text-based login and startx manually )08:06
silvertontritium, I'm just a downloading junkie08:06
tritium:)08:06
sproingiemaybe i'll have better luck with cedega cvs instead of wine cvs08:06
finitequestion: is there an easy guide to setting up a network login system, such that my home directory is mounted over nfs? client and server can both be ubuntu08:06
silvertonbittorrent is my friend :)08:06
durtsproingie: ok, get IE then - but why not edit with the gimp08:06
finiteand ideally the auth would be done over the network too, with ldap unless there is something better08:06
n00blarnite everyone08:07
tritiumfinite, did you search the wiki?08:07
sproingiedurt: it's a matter of doing trivial edits like rotate, redeye, fill light, with a responsive interface08:07
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sproingiedurt: i'm addicted to picasa on windows.  the alternative is for me to reboot to windows08:07
finitei found an ldap-auth guide but it skims over how the home directory is specified08:07
synduboontoo: i said NFS, not NTFS08:07
sproingiedurt: gimp is not suited for flipping between edit and browse with hundreds of photos08:08
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durtthere must be some good photo app out there08:08
uboontooSynd, sorry misread ya08:08
ohphrackuwhat if any services are enabled by default in the server installation?08:08
sproingiedurt: i'm still waiting for one on linux08:09
Turicashow i can play more than 1 sound? eg: listening music in xmms while gaim plays a sound (msg received, etc..)08:09
durtsproingie, so picasa doesnt work with mozilla or opera?08:09
uboontooI am browsing the /usr/share/pixmaps/splash folder and i see that ubuntu comes with alot of different splash images to use, how do i switch between them?08:09
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sproingiedurt: it embeds IE.  it's supposed to work with the mozilla activex control too, but wine just locks up when it tries to download it, and installing it manually fails08:10
tritiumuboontoo, that's either an FAQ, or on the wiki08:10
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NiLzhow come there's no rc.local in ubuntu?08:10
BlueEaglesynd: installed nfs-common?08:10
NiLzis there any other file used for the same purpouse?08:10
uboontoowell i looked there and couldnt find it so can someone just help me real fast if anyone knows?08:10
edu---can we play online games in ubuntu... such as ragnarok, mu and other rpg games08:11
robotgeekNiLz: take a look at "man update-rc.d"08:11
sproingieedu---: they probably work under wine08:11
edu---can anybody help me08:11
haffeThe onlye thing I can think of is cedega.08:12
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durtyou must be asian - ragnarok...08:12
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NiLzrobotgeek: too complicated :(08:12
robotgeekNiLz: all you need to do is copy your script to /etc/init.d and do a sudo update-rc.d <scriptname> defaults08:13
tritiumNiLz, if you prefer, edit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh, then08:13
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tritiumBut, it's preferable to do as robotgeek suggests, Nakkel08:16
tritiumNiLz,08:16
haffeSigh.08:16
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haffeYour a student if you have to read a book on complex analysis on Saturday morning.08:17
tritiumYou're even08:17
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durthaffe what the hell is that?08:18
tritiumhaffe, Rudin?08:18
chickboiechi08:19
chickboiecneed help08:19
derek[] back08:19
chickboiecim trying to install freetype2 now08:19
chickboiecbut i dont have a package...08:19
chickboiecit's just a zip file08:19
haffetritium: Saff/Snider08:19
chickboiecwith lots of files08:19
tritiumhaffe, ah, okay08:20
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haffedurt: It's calculus with complex numbers.08:20
chickboiecdo i need a make install?08:20
chickboiecplease help08:20
chickboiecor do u have a better idea08:20
tritiumchickboiec, there are freetype packages.  Which do you need?08:20
chickboiecthe one for cedega08:20
ompis it really worth spending 4 hours downloading the breezy livecd...? =/08:20
chickboiecany links?08:20
chickboiecdeb ubuntu08:20
chickboiectritium, tnx for ur reply08:21
tritium!info libfreetype608:21
ubotulibfreetype6: (FreeType 2 font engine, shared library files), section libs, is optional. Version: 2.1.7-2.3 (hoary), Packaged size: 354 kB, Installed size: 692 kB08:21
chickboiecwr can i get that08:21
chickboiecsynaptic doesnt show freetype08:21
durthaffe: um... nasty08:21
chickboieclib is ok?08:21
chickboieci want to make sure all dependencies are met08:22
chickboiecbefore i install cedega08:22
tritiumchickboiec, it's in the main repo.  just apt-get install it08:22
chickboiecok08:22
chickboiecwaht is the site?08:22
naliothtritium: ya sneaky fella08:22
chickboiecdeb http//.....08:23
tritiumhey nalioth.  sneaky hobbitses?08:23
chickboiecor just typ apt-get08:23
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tritiumchickboiec, I would assume your sources.list is already setup?08:23
naliothtritium: sneaky-hobbitses is my middle name08:24
chickboiecjust a fresh install...08:24
tritiumchickboiec, if that's the case, you can simply "sudo apt-get (or aptitude) install libfreetype6"08:24
chickboieci need the rep08:24
chickboiectnx08:24
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chickboiectnx08:25
tritiumchickboiec, even a fresh install should have the main repo listed in your /etc/apt/sources.list08:25
tritiumplease double check08:25
chickboieci dont need freetype2 anymore? i have libfreetype6 installed08:25
tritiumnalioth, :)08:25
chickboiectnx08:25
chickboieci just wana make sure checklist is met08:25
tritiumchickboiec, I don't know what cedega requires08:25
chickboiecit's on their site08:25
chickboiectot freetype2 is diff from libfre..08:26
tritiumchickboiec, try apt-cache search freetype2, then08:26
tritiumchickboiec, in breezy, it's superseded by libttf208:27
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Echelon-Hhi08:27
Echelon-His there a torrent client where i can change the ports?08:27
chickboiecok08:27
derek[] BlueEagle, wassup?08:27
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naliothEchelon-H: you can change it on all clients08:28
BlueEaglederek[] : working out mount syntax for nfs08:28
Echelon-Hcouldn't figure it out on gnome-bittorent08:28
BlueEaglesynd: sudo mount -t nfs servername:/path/to/share/ /path/to/local/mountpoint08:29
naliothEchelon-H: have a party http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/cmdline.shtml08:29
tritiumchickboiec, packages.ubuntu.com might be useful to you too08:29
BlueEaglesynd: /path/to/share is defined in /etc/exports of the server.08:29
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syndBlueEagle: alright, thanks08:30
syndBlueEagle: do i have to create a mount point first?08:30
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jakeloI'm getting the message "connect (99 Cannot assign requested address)" when using apt-get and wget.  Anyone know how I would resolve this?08:32
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Echelon-Hnalioth, i get errors when im trying to use minport maxport08:33
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BlueEaglesynd: always08:34
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ngranadohello all08:35
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robotgeekngranado: hi08:35
ngranadohow do I reconfigure my xserver config again?08:36
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tritiumsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:36
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robotgeekngranado: do that08:36
derek_hi08:36
robotgeektritium: too fast08:36
tritiumrobotgeek, :)08:36
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ngranadotritium: thanks08:36
GullyFoylereconfigure - again... redundant08:36
Strifehey, has anyone used dcgui at all?08:36
tritiumno problem, ngranado08:36
derek_is there a way to not install gnome during ubuntu installation?08:36
tritiumderek_, server install08:37
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derek_and install some other windowing environment?08:37
Strifebut gnome is awesome!08:37
Strifeheh08:37
tritiuminstall win. env. of your choice after server install08:37
StrifeI remember gnome from back in the 1.x days08:37
Strifeman was that ugly08:37
finitederek[] , http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html08:37
GullyFoylei prefer a speedy wm like fluxbox08:38
Strifeit's come a long way since then08:38
Strifebut I digress08:38
derek_GullyFoyle, me too08:38
ngranadoit says xserver-xorg is broken or not really installed08:38
StrifeI downloaded dc_gui a while ago08:38
Strifeand I have no idea how to actually find/connect to hubs08:38
derek_brb08:38
Strifethe lack of documentation certainly doesn't help08:38
robotgeekngranado: are u on warty?08:39
ngranadono08:39
ngranadobreezy08:39
ngranadonm I think i got it08:39
ngranadoi just did a apt-get -f install08:39
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haffeWhen do you thing X11R7 will be released?08:40
Echelon-Hcan anyone recommand on a good BT client?08:40
haffebtdownloadcurses is quite popular.08:41
oolonazureus is java based08:41
robotgeekEchelon-H: same , with screen08:41
ngranadoEchelon-H: Bit Torrent or bluetooth?08:41
ngranadoEchelon-H: i guess since there's not bluetooth clients08:42
ngranadothat bit torrent is what you are asking about08:42
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finiteAzureus has cool graphics but the Gnome client that is preinstalled with hoary works just as well08:42
apsynchi, I have 1 partition on my HD, can I install ubuntu + keep windows on 1 partition ?08:42
Strifeapsync: of course08:42
apsyncah, Ok08:42
jtan325ngranado, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:42
Strifeso no one has used dc_gui?08:43
jtan325breezy rocks the socks08:43
solidgrooveanyone use cedega and after updating ubuntu cedega doesnt display fonts on buttons on installations in cedega08:43
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hondjesomeone should add an http:// before the breezy upgrade link in the topic08:43
chavosolidgroove, cedega works fine here08:43
GullyFoyleyeah i had probs with X til i realized i had to disable that kernel frmebuffer crap08:43
Strifejtan325: not when I tried to upgrade to it a couple of months ago :P08:43
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jtan325hehe08:44
StrifeI'm (mostly) satisfied with simply using backports for now08:44
jtan325i'm fresh off the preview install08:44
Strifethere are a few other annoyances08:44
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solidgroovechavo, I think im missing a library or something, can I send you a screenshot what it looks like08:44
Strifelike not being able to compile NetworkManager08:44
Strifebut I can wait till Breezy officially comes out08:44
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tritiumbetter, hondje ?08:44
hondjetritium: Much, thanks :)08:44
chavosolidgroove, sure08:44
tritium:)08:44
BlueEaglesolidgroove: I would guess that you're missing a font.08:44
user_bob2, you there?08:44
hondjeany gotchas with breezy, or is it safe for an experienced user?08:45
solidgrooveI have tahoma installed in .transgaming_local/Fonts08:45
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chavosolidgroove, I don't think my firewall will let me dcc08:45
user_bob2, you there? i need help08:45
khermansis there anything like ObjectDock in Linux?08:45
user_anyone?08:45
Strifeanyone used skippy or skippy-xd at all>?08:45
tritiumuser_, please ask the channel08:45
jtan325user_, just ask08:45
BlueEaglesolidgroove: did you try to got trough the fonts section of ubuntuguide.com?08:45
Echelon-Hhow can I dir only files starting with the letter b?08:45
chavokhermans, there are some similar apps08:45
robotgeekkhermans: what's objecy doc?08:45
Strifebecause it seems that skippy-xd is ungodly slow08:46
user_ok...08:46
GullyFoylehey any of you geeks prefer onboard sound or a card? i've heard a card works better and if you have one just disable the onboard sound on yer mobo.08:46
khermanschavo, like?08:46
robotgeekkhermans: what's objectdock?08:46
BlueEaglesolidgroove: Something like sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts or sudo apt-get install gsfonts-x11?08:46
StrifeGullyFoyle: I'm all about the SBLive08:46
khermansrobotgeek, mimics the OS X hidden toolbar with icons for starting programs08:46
Strifeyears old, but still awesome08:46
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StrifeWAY outperforms my laptop's builtin sound08:46
BlueEaglesolidgroove: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrafonts might help.08:46
robotgeekkhermans: there's the similiar bar in gdesklets, i think08:46
Strifehondje: my laptop has weird issues... like if I'm playing music, all other sounds play delayed08:46
khermansrobotgeek, yeah but that doesnt actually seem to be dockable08:47
user_i already change the root password but when i trty to log in with the root account ubuntu says "admin can't login here..."08:47
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GullyFoyleStrife: I have an Sb but i dont use it cuz of the AC97 on my mobo. ya think i should pop it in?08:47
hondjeStrife: hrm...I get something 'like' that, with xine and tvout on my nv card08:47
khermansit only puts the stuff on the desktop background08:47
robotgeekkhermans: hmm, no idea..don't use it08:47
hondjethe audio gets out of sync, and I have to pause it to resync it08:47
user_any idea why?08:47
tritiumuser_, gdm?08:47
BlueEagleuser_: Do you really _have_to_ log in as root?08:47
khermansso there is no dockable Linux app launcher like ObjectDock?08:47
chavokhermans, there's kxdocker, engage and some themes for superkaramba or gDesklets08:47
Madpilotuser_: have you read wikie.ubuntu.com/RootSudo?08:47
robotgeekhondje: rhythmbox?08:47
Madpilot*wiki.ubuntu.com/etc, sorry08:47
hondjerobotgeek: xine08:47
StrifeGullyFoyle: if you aren't using the SBLive for anything else... yes08:48
robotgeekhondje: i meant, do u get that on rhythmbox too?08:48
StrifeGullyFoyle: but only because I <3 SBLive08:48
tritiumuser_, if you're referring to gdm login, you have to configure it to allow root logins08:48
chavokhermans, I never tried them though, the dock is a UI disaster08:48
hondjerobotgeek: I don't know how I'd check that, since there's no pictures for it to sync against08:48
khermanschavo, kxdocker seems to be only kde08:48
chavokhermans, are you looking for something with icon zooming, like OSX?08:49
khermansid rather not grab the kdelibs if i dont have to08:49
khermansyeah08:49
chavoyuck08:49
robotgeekhondje: sorry, kinda misunderstood. thanks08:49
user_ya, i need to setup a workgroup ("kindalike the MS")08:49
BlueEaglesolidgroove: Did I ask to get a screenie from you?08:49
khermanswhy?08:49
hondje:)08:49
chavoI don't know of any others08:49
user_the link seems to be dead...08:49
khermanschavo, i think that looks pretty good - but kde, eww08:49
solidgrooveBlueEagle, no08:49
BlueEaglesolidgroove: Then why are you sending one to me?08:49
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GullyFoylei have a cool launcher on my my flux setup on my yoper partition but i forget what it's called. you mouse over it and it extrudes any number of little squares with configurable icons, works great08:50
Madpilotuser_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo - typo in the first one...08:50
robotgeekthis seems like something out of pulp fiction :)08:50
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louisjohnare u kdding me08:50
louisjohn22/m/fl08:50
louisjohnwassup08:50
louisjohnbb08:50
louisjohncoffee08:50
robotgeeklouisjohn: we don't do that here in #ubuntu08:50
ohphrackulol08:51
robertbbAnyone here tried the banshee music player for gnome?08:51
chavohehe08:51
BlueEagleSomeone should tell louisjohn that he's tying in the wrong window.08:51
BlueEagle...or maybe not.08:51
Strifeso nobody has used dc_gui?08:51
robotgeeklouisjohn: use #ubuntu-offtopic08:51
Strifebecause I'm finding it really ridiculous that I have no idea how to even get it to list hubs, let alone actually connect to anything08:51
Madpilot!info dc_gui08:51
jtan325hehe i gave up on dc++ a long time ago08:51
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jtan325i just use bittorrent08:51
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user_another question: i can ping another pc in my LAN but the network server only shows the WIndows Network08:52
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Strifejtan325: pssht, when I'm on campus with the lappy I'm better off using DC08:52
BlueEagleafter 070105 downloading copyrighted music became illegal here.08:52
Strifeuser_: with the `ping' command08:52
jakelojtan325, where are you getting your torrents from?08:52
BlueEagle05070108:52
StrifeBlueEagle: who said anything about downloading music?08:52
jtan325yea08:52
jtan325i download azureus updates via torrents08:52
jtan325or anime08:53
BlueEaglestrife: Well, downloading programs has been illegal here for years. :p08:53
Strifebelieve it or not, I actually download things that are legal08:53
naliothfinding torrents can be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic08:53
BlueEaglestrife: Movies also became illegal to download with the new law tbh.08:53
StrifeBlueEagle: actually, downloading free, open source programs is perfectly 100% legal08:53
user_no, from the Places-->Network Servers08:53
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GullyFoylei just "borrow" a digital version of the song for evaluation purposes08:53
Ice9is there a way to have gaim auto-accept file transfers?08:53
tritiumGullyFoyle, not here, please08:54
GullyFoylewhat's wrong with that?08:54
StrifeBlueEagle: (A) I'm not downloading movies, (B) It was always illegal to pirate, and (C) There wasn't a `new law,' but rather a Supreme Court case that says that software companies may be held liable for what their users do with the software08:54
naliothp2p/torrent talk in #ubuntu-offtopic, please08:54
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jakeloI'm getting the message "connect (99 Cannot assign requested address)" when using apt-get and wget.  Anyone know how I would resolve this?08:54
derek_does anyone know if its possible to install the iso directly off the hdd?08:54
BlueEaglestrife: It was not illegal to d/l copyrighted music before 050701. Then again I'm in Norway.08:54
derek_my cd writer isn't working08:54
naliothderek_: possible but not easy08:54
hondjederek_: yeah, but it's a PITA08:54
StrifeBlueEagle: Norway. Check.08:55
derek_:/08:55
BlueEaglederek_: What is wrong with it?08:55
derek_it doesn't burn08:55
GullyFoylecan gun companies be held liable for waht people do with guns?08:55
derek_it doesn't read08:55
BlueEaglederek_: Did you check the power supply?08:55
derek_its borked08:55
StrifeBlueEagle: I apologize for my American everyone's-in-the-US attitude08:55
naliothGullyFoyle: -offtopic, please08:55
derek_lol sure08:55
derek_the tray opens08:55
robotgeekGullyFoyle,Strife,BlueEagle : #ubuntu-offtopic08:55
sproingiegrrARGH.  wine is driving me to drink08:55
BlueEaglestrife: No worries. I'm used to it.08:55
Strifeheh08:55
BlueEaglederek_: Did you check the signal cable?08:56
apsyncI want to install ubuntu on the same partition as windows, do I need more software/utilities for this? some say you have to use shrink and some don't08:56
Strifewhat's wrong with making a new partition?08:56
tritiumapsync, they need to be on separate partitions08:56
BlueEagleapsync: Are you sure you want to do that? You might think you want to do that but I bet you really don't want to do that.08:56
apsyncoh hmm..08:56
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apsyncthen, can I install ubuntu on my slave hd?08:57
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haffeYes.08:57
derek_BlueEagle, ?08:57
BlueEagleapsync: no problem at all.08:57
_rb_yep. just make the slave hd the active08:57
apsyncah great08:57
BlueEaglederek_: ?08:57
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derek_what signal cable?08:57
Strifewell anyway...08:57
derek_i got this writer repaired once08:57
StrifeI don't even remember why I turned on my laptop in the first place08:57
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Strifeso... later08:57
derek_it worked for some time.. now not08:57
BlueEaglederek_: ide cable if it's an atapi burner. scsi cable if it's a scsi burner, sata cable if it's a sata burner.08:57
derek_ide08:58
BlueEaglederek_: the cable which makes the signal go from the motherboard to the burner.08:58
haffeAre there any satacdburners?08:58
_rb_cept that prick windows will need to be installed before ubuntu coz it'll lie about being able to change back which partition is active once windows is installed.08:58
BlueEagle(ie signal cable)08:58
Madpilothaffe: a couple, yes08:58
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louisjohnwhat are u kidding me08:58
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derek_aw08:59
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tritiumno, not kidding, louisjohn08:59
_rb_went thru that one a lot trying to get ubuntu and windows on the same machine, and then installing nvidia. Which, i must say, is absolutely crap in linux.08:59
user_anyone?08:59
_rb_huh ?09:00
tritium_rb_, nvidia works pretty well in ubuntu, I'd say09:00
derek_huh?09:00
derek_nvidia is crap in linux?09:00
s4f3_m0d3i feel like a missed something....09:00
derek_doesn't nvidia geforce work to its fullest in linux as it does in windows?09:00
s4f3_m0d3derek_, one wold imagine09:01
s4f3_m0d3would*09:01
_rb_i'd have thought so, but i've never been able to get the stupid thing working without constant segmentation faults and then fake happyness ( installs, runs fine, but when you reboot ... )09:01
derek_:(((((((09:01
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ngranadodamn that didn't seem to work09:01
s4f3_m0d3_rb_, did you reconfigure X after the driver install?09:01
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ngranadodid fglrx get changed or something?09:01
_rb_xconf ?09:01
s4f3_m0d3because i've never had any problems with it09:01
_rb_yeah09:01
ngranadonods09:01
s4f3_m0d3_rb_, no, i mean the dpkg thing09:01
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s4f3_m0d3with x09:01
_rb_nvidia-glx-config enable always roots the damn thing09:01
tritium_rb_, did you completely follow the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?09:01
s4f3_m0d3i don't remember the exact command09:02
SnuttScript to get other partitions like FAT32 and NTFS?09:02
_rb_dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ? yeah, then nvidia screws it09:02
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_rb_snutt, search for it on google. its on the unofficial ubuntu guide.09:02
brenner_rb_, hoary runs xorg09:02
tritiumno, that's not typical behavior09:02
SnuttThank _rb_09:03
Snutt+s09:03
derek_damn09:03
derek_I need to talk to a group of graphic designers who work on a linux platform09:03
tritiumgood night #ubuntu09:03
_rb_yeah, something like that. /etc/X11/something09:03
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brennerSnutt, don't use th guide09:03
_rb_got pissed at it and decided well, i'll just use windows xp for games09:03
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_rb_whats wrong with the guide ?09:04
SnuttAny suggestions brenner09:04
derek__rb_, I have to use it for my work (I'll be using blender3d)09:04
brennerSnutt, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab09:04
_rb_i use blender3d09:04
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derek__rb_, cool. you a modeller?09:04
SnuttThank, jsut what I looked for!09:04
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_rb_it might not look photorealistic09:04
_rb_but it works09:04
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israelstekios?09:05
_rb_yeah. but only just recently discovered blender in linux. touched it once years ago. wasn't impressed back then.09:05
_rb_lightwave user here09:05
ngranado_rb_: ?09:05
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_rb_before that 3dstudio, before that simply3d.09:05
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_rb_blender seems like its very capable, but i've gotta learn it, which is what started all my problems.09:06
derek_I used 3dstudio09:06
derek_but I'm migrating to open source totally09:06
derek_(license problems)09:06
_rb_wish i could. still love my games09:06
derek_:)09:06
s4f3_m0d3_rb_, cedega might work09:06
_rb_so thats all xp is on my machine for. hate the feckin thing09:06
_rb_cedega ?09:07
s4f3_m0d3google09:07
s4f3_m0d3:D09:07
derek_I've heard about cedega09:07
_rb_is it a 3d thing ?09:07
s4f3_m0d3no09:07
derek_its a game thing09:07
s4f3_m0d3it lets you run windows games on linux09:07
_rb_ah09:07
ngranadosomeone said something about nvidia someting a rather09:07
__filip_i have write this in fstab /dev/hda6 /media/hda6 vfat rw,user,defaults 0 0 but i cant write in hda6, what to do?09:07
_rb_yeah, well, nvidia dont work on my ubuntu, so games i play would be pointless without it09:07
ohphrackuwhat card _rb_09:08
ohphracku?09:08
brenner_rb_: in general the wiki or this channel is the best source of information....the major sore point of the guide is it's lack of explanations09:08
_rb_geforce ti50009:08
_rb_gf309:08
ohphrackuthat should work09:08
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naliothFilbert: after 'user' put "umask=000"09:08
nalioth__filip_:  after 'user' put "umask=000"09:09
_rb_i know it should work, but i've tried about 8 different nvidia builds, kernel headers etc, and it refuses to run without issues. really annoying09:09
__filip_nalioth: should i delete defaults?09:09
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nalioth__filip_: yes09:09
ngranado_rb_: help!!!09:09
__filip_okej09:09
ngranadols -al09:10
ngranadols -al09:10
_rb_sup ?09:10
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ohphrackuthat sucks09:10
_rb_about nvidia ?09:10
ohphrackuyea09:10
_rb_yeah. big time09:10
zorba64_rb_: yeah i can relate, i have a fx5200, linux wont even boot with it...they hit the hotplugging then segfault09:10
ngranadols09:11
ngranado_rb_: yes09:11
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ngranado_rb_: no09:11
ngranado_rb_: nm, i'm talking about fglrx09:11
derek_so nvidia geforce fx is not good for linux?09:11
silvertonI have an fx520009:11
zorba64derek_: not all anyway09:12
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_rb_yeah. well, i get past hotplugging, the real issue is there is no money in linux drivers for them so they dont cae enough to make sure they work. very microsoft of them i think.09:12
silvertonderek_, nvidia has better support for *nix then ati is09:12
derek_zorba64, what doy ou mean?09:12
derek_silverton, I see09:12
_rb_i dont know about the fx series.09:12
_rb_usually, ive found the older cards are better supported.09:12
zorba64derek_:  well some work and some dont09:12
ohphrackudamn micro$0ft09:12
derek_:/09:12
silvertonmy fx does pretty damn well...09:12
_rb_this coming from someone who swapped a gf3 for a 9800xt so i could make the move from windows09:13
derek_wish there was an open source hardware manufacturing unit in the world09:13
_rb_there is for most stuff. just not high end 3d09:13
hondjeopencore09:13
derek_silverton, in linux?09:13
ohphrackuno shi* huh09:13
ohphrackuopen everything!09:13
ohphrackuweeeee09:13
derek_open everything!!09:13
ohphrackujk :P09:13
silvertonderek_, yes09:14
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ohphrackuyup yup09:14
silvertonthough, not as well in ubuntu as it does in debian09:14
derek_silverton, okay. I'm going to buy a new card. Which model should I go for? i'll be using it in linux09:14
derek_ohh09:14
derek_:/09:14
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ohphrackuati works great for me09:14
silvertonI think it might be the fact that ubuntu uses xorg whereas debian testing uses xfree8609:14
ngranadoderek_: i've had no problems with Nvidia09:14
ohphrackuthe firegl models09:14
sedatlo all09:14
derek_ngranado, fx series?09:15
sedatneed some help troubleshooting09:15
ngranadoderek_: yes09:15
silvertonderek_, if you're on a budget, I'd go for an FX5500 or 570009:15
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derek_k09:15
_rb_went through a pile of distros trying to get the nvidia working actually, knoppix, morphix, mandrake, suse, debian. just like ubuntu best, thats all09:15
silvertonbut, if you have money to burn, go for a nice 6800 or 7XXX card09:15
zorba64derek_: mine is a weird setup...asrock mini atx09:15
derek_silverton, ok.. and its perfectly linux compatible?09:15
ohphracku blender & my firegl9600 was smooth09:15
silvertonderek_, yes...09:15
derek_silverton, you run both ubuntu and debian?09:15
Scholar_Gypsyhi, by mistake i have deleted the /var/www/ folder. how do i get my webserver running again?09:15
silvertonderek_, yes09:15
derek_why? :)09:16
zorba64derek_: it need drivers so that winxp nows its a agp slot and not a pci slot09:16
silvertonwhy not? :)09:16
_rb_ubuntu is pretty much the same thing, with more nice things09:16
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silverton_rb_, ubuntu is bit more user friendly09:16
_rb_as i said. nice things.09:16
silverton:P09:16
silvertonBut, my home is still on debian09:16
derek_zorba64, well wht if you're not using win09:16
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ohphrackui like ubuntu but dont like the attitude of others sayin "oh you newb u use ubuntu"09:16
_rb_prolly almost ready to get a more difficult one, but what the hell. I'll just use it for the stuff i do. programming web stuff and 3d work09:17
silvertonmy webserver runs debian, while my desktop uses  ubuntu09:17
derek_ohphracku, lol09:17
kapilScholar_Gypsy: try creating the directory /var/www09:17
p0windahScholar_Gypsy: create it again or dpkg-reconfigure apache209:17
_rb_pissed me off that there is no linux version of flash09:17
silvertonohphracku, no wayz!  that's what people say about mandrake...  er mandriva09:17
p0windahor whatever your webserver is..09:17
zorba64derek_: the card sits there gathering dust, i use the integrated intel in ubuntu09:17
silverton_rb_, the flash plugin?09:17
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_rb_mandriva is a huge bunch of donkey09:17
ohphrackumy ubutnu is totally different that the stock distro09:17
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derek_<_rb_> pissed me off that there is no linux version of flash09:17
silverton_rb_, it's nice for people making the switch from windows to  linux09:18
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derek__rb_, I found a list of them09:18
zorba64derek_: mind you freebsd has no probs with the card, jut about a dozen linux distros i have tried09:18
derek_silverton, yes, but very very hard for graphic designers :(((09:18
_rb_nah, the flash pluggin worked...in konqueror. mozilla said piss off to auto install, and macromedia said piss off to the directory firefox was in. but no, the actual designer software for it09:18
silvertonderek_, eh?09:18
derek__rb_, not the plugin09:18
ohphrackuevery distro is lame out the box but thats what its about tuning, tweakin, to your tastes09:18
derek_silverton, migration from windoze to nix09:18
derek__rb_, let me give you the links09:19
silvertonderek_, a graphic designer shouldn't be using windows or linux in the first place09:19
_rb_and the flash pluggin is poked in my system anyway. gotta use explicit sizing, which sucks. konqueror dont liek the exact fit or percentages09:19
derek_although all these programs are in a very elementary stages of dev.09:19
silvertonthat's where the mac and OSX come in09:19
derek_https://sourceforge.net/projects/qflash/09:19
ngranadols09:19
_rb_um, no its not, and kill whoever told you that. osx is the biggest pile of crap ever made besides windows 3.109:19
hondjea graphic designer should use whatever works for him the best09:19
derek_http://sourceforge.net/projects/f4l/09:19
ngranadoexit09:19
derek_http://osflash.org/09:20
Kuolio:D09:20
Scholar_Gypsythx p0windah , kapil09:20
ohphrackuanyone tried opensolaris yet09:20
ohphrackuor whatever they call it09:20
_rb_a graphic designer should use linux ( if it had all the tools ) but can use xp very niceley. they just cant allow it to talk on the internet09:20
derek_silverton, if I can't afford windoze.. its out of question to go for mac09:20
derek__rb_, my only problem is the licensing09:20
silvertontssht...  anyone with an internet connection can afford windows >.<09:20
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derek_i gotta keep my work legal09:21
_rb_they recently tried a port of osx onto a pc. kicked the sheet out of mac speeds09:21
silvertonkeep the work legal, the OS doesn't matter09:21
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_rb_got any work on the web derek ?09:21
derek_silverton, it does09:21
silverton_rb_, that's an on going project...  especially since apple is moving to intel processors09:21
DansFloydi need help installing Realplayer...09:21
sedatanybody knows something about operamotifwrapper?09:21
derek__rb_, yeh. http://derek.vnvsoft.com/09:21
_rb_does if you get audited silverton09:21
derek_i had derekz.com ..lost it, coz had no cc to make an online payment09:21
nalioth!tell DansFloyd about restricted09:22
hondjeIf people are to respect the GPL, then we have to respect MS's licenses09:22
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zorba64!restricted09:22
uboturestricted is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:22
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p0windahhondje: I think you mean "abide"09:22
DansFloydrestricted?09:22
naliothDansFloyd: read the page09:22
hondjeNo, respect09:22
naliothDansFloyd: near the bottom it covers realplayer09:22
hondjeThey have a right to license their work as they see fit09:22
_rb_and osx sucks anyway. too tied up09:23
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_rb_bbs. going to freak out my machine09:23
derek_k09:23
derek_later09:23
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derek_so I should safely buy a geforce fx 5200?09:23
silvertonderek_, personally, I'd go with a 5500 or a 570009:24
silvertonI'm going to upgrade mine soon09:24
derek_ok09:24
silvertonI regret buying mine :(09:24
derek_my mobo has s3 prosavage09:24
JustStevei had a 5200 it was okay, but for the same price you can usually get something better anymore09:24
silvertondon't buy one that is done by rosewill09:24
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DansFloydsays its available in hoary-extras09:24
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JustStevederek_ what is your price range?09:24
derek_rosewill?09:25
hondjeI have a 5200, it seems to work fine09:25
silvertonderek_, rosewill is a manufactorer09:25
nalioth!tell DansFloyd about sources09:25
silvertonsince nvidia don't make their own cards, just the chips09:25
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Carpe_LibertatemMy videocard has dual-monitor capabilities - how can I enable that in Ubuntu?09:25
silvertonxinerama?09:25
derek_oh09:25
derek_they don't make the cards?09:25
derek_who makes the cards?09:25
silvertonnope, just develop the chips, I believe it lowers the cost of the cards overall09:26
silvertonderek_, anyone... rofl09:26
derek_:)09:26
hondjelots of people...mine came from taiwan :)09:26
JustStevenvidia is a chip maker, not a manufacturer, there are no nvidia cards made by nvidia09:26
silvertonmany companies make the nvidia cards09:26
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derek_prolly china must be making some now too09:26
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user_*** how to setup workgrgoup in linux(ubuntu)?***09:27
derek_JustSteve, about 136.877 USD09:27
redapocolypseesd doesnt work how do i fix it?09:27
derek_about 135 USD09:27
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zeeblehi. just installed ubuntu 5.10 preview... how do i get gkrellm? tried apt-cache search for gkrellm but no results09:28
silvertonthat's the one I'd buy09:29
user_*** how to setup workgrgoup in linux(ubuntu)? anyone? ***09:29
JustStevederek_ about 120-150 US should get you a 66oo which is TONS better than a 520009:29
Toma-user_: google09:29
derek_JustSteve, ok. But also, I want a card with atleast 256 MB09:29
ned_! yeah .. so many people ! i just upgraded to breezy, with 2.6.12 kernel, i need to compile something, and i can't find the "kernel-source-2.6.12" package ...?09:30
ubotuned_: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about09:30
JustStevethey have nvidia 6600 non-GTs with 25609:30
silvertonzeeble, you have the "universe" repository in your sources.list?09:30
ned_ubotu: ?09:30
ubotuned_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?09:30
ned_ubotu: ??09:30
ubotuned_: Are you smoking crack?09:30
derek_k09:30
JustStevei'm using a 6600 GT only 128 megs of ram, but it's DDR309:30
_rb_um. are the 2 pipes all that makes up your 3d portfolio derek ?09:30
zeeblesilverton: hm, maybe not.. i am still using the default sources.list09:30
zeeblesilverton: lemme add and try, thanks09:31
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silvertonzeeble, yes, I just searched for it, and that is where gkrellm is09:31
derek__rb_, yeah. I've really not done much in 3D.. I'm a Flash guy09:31
_rb_ah09:31
zeeblesilverton: heh. my bad :)09:31
sedatwhat's the command to make a file?09:31
_rb_what sort of flash do you do ?09:31
derek_I was working on a car model09:31
zeeblesilverton: just trying this out on the laptop, before i get the final release and use it full time.09:31
derek_Fiat Palio Weekender09:31
_rb_and is that qflash going now ? i thought i'd tried that a while back09:31
zeeblesedat: er, read README and INSTALL09:31
derek_but the mesh got too complex and I started needing a card09:31
sedatk09:32
derek__rb_, I haven't tried any of those open source flash yet09:32
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sedattried help and manual but it aked me what page :)09:32
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JustStevederek_ what country are you from?09:32
derek_I'm still in windows09:32
_rb_too complex in what ? blender ?09:32
derek_JustSteve, India09:32
derek__rb_, no, 3dsmax09:32
_rb_ah. which version ?09:32
JustSteveah, i don't know any stores in india >_<09:32
derek_509:32
brennersedat: what are you trying to do?09:32
derek_JustSteve, np.09:32
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derek__rb_, you got any work for display?09:33
sedatcreate a file called libmap.conf09:33
sedatlast step of installing opera09:33
derek_JustSteve, thanks though :)09:33
sedatbut i'm too lazy to do sudo nautilus09:33
JustStevebut in all i would avoid the nvidia FX cards if possible09:33
brennersedat: just open a n editor09:33
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derek_JustSteve, why?09:33
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brennersedat: or use 'touch'09:33
nomad111hey there09:33
nomad111just wondering09:33
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silverton:O09:33
nomad111is it worth switching from fedora core 4 to ubuntu09:33
silvertonthey hosed the "run application" menu thing in gnome 2.12??09:33
JustStevejust not the best performance on them, major upgrade on the 6600 and up09:33
zeeblesilverton: cheers. updated and now it is availablee.09:34
sedatthanks all09:34
silvertonzeeble, no problem dude09:34
_rb_nothing properly. hmm. I have done a fair bit, but the actual stuff is corperate, so its all locked up and currently running. the 3d stuff.....um, nothing actually set up. I could find some stuff and chuck it in a folder. hangon09:34
sedattouch it is09:34
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hebez_!ubuntuguide09:34
ubotuubuntuguide is probably out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.09:34
derek_nomad111, yeah.. if you want to upgrade from nomad status :P09:34
brennernomad111: you ask in an #ubuntu channel... :)09:34
hebez_!faq09:34
ubotu[faq]  The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)09:34
zeeblebrenner: hehe09:34
apsyncI am about to install ubuntu on my slave HD, which has data i dont want to lose, will ubuntu format the drive before installing09:34
derek__rb_, ok09:35
nomad111actually i wanted to kno how is better than fc409:35
brenner"out of data"?09:35
derek_its debian based09:35
JustStevenoman111 : FWIW i like Ubuntu better than Slax09:35
zeeblenomad111: newer packages, easier to maintain.09:35
nomad111just making sure man09:35
derek_FWIW?09:35
hebez_where is more robust sources.list available?09:35
zeeblefor what its worth09:35
JustStevefor what it's worth = FWIW09:35
brennerapsync: not if you manually set up the partitions09:35
nomad111does ubuntu use yum or apt or wat09:35
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derek_ok09:35
apsyncok, :-)09:36
zeeblenomad111: apt. fc4 stole apt from debian. and yum was made by yellowdog to mimic the apt behaviour09:36
JustSteveubuntu is debian based so it uses apt, there's a bunch of reviews of Hoary online09:36
nomad111lol im not too good with that stuff09:36
brennerapsync: the installer can resize partitions btw....just defrag 1st (if it's fat/ntfs)09:36
nomad111but coz i started off with yum09:36
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zeeblenomad111: check out www.distrowatch.com09:36
hebez_!sources.list09:36
apsyncah09:36
ubotuhebez_: I give up, what is it?09:36
nomad111wats it for09:36
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zeeblenomad111: lol. it is easy. theres a GUI for apt too.09:36
zeeblenomad111: distrowatch compares different distros.. etc.09:37
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apsyncwhat about if I make a partition now with partition magic, can I select that partition while installing ubuntu?09:37
sedati need to libmap llibXm.so.2 to libXm.so.3, so i created /etc/libmap.conf, but what do i put in there?09:37
JustStevenomad111 : http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu09:37
nomad111wats the official faq site by the way for ubuntu09:37
brennerapsync: yep09:37
hebez_tell hebez_ repositories09:37
nomad111thx i owe ya09:37
apsyncallright, gonna do that then, thank you09:37
JustStevethere's a review of Breezy out as well09:37
silvertonnomad111, wiki.ubuntu.org09:38
silvertonor .com09:38
silvertonI forget09:38
silverton!wiki09:38
silverton! wiki09:38
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, silverton09:38
zeeble!faq09:38
ubotu[faq]  The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)09:38
sedat!wiki09:38
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jtan325is there a place to see ubuntu package stats?09:38
jtan325i.e. popcon for ubuntu?09:38
nomad111and last question when is breezy coming out09:38
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zeeblenomad111: /topic09:38
spiralhi09:38
zeeblespine55: heyas09:39
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brennerjtan325: define stats09:39
s4f3_m0d3zeeble, how exactly did fedore steal apt?09:39
s4f3_m0d3i mean...09:39
nomad111ah k09:39
nomad111oct 1309:39
user_exit09:39
derek__rb_, do you know of any online community of graphic designers that work on the linux platform?09:39
s4f3_m0d3linux is opensource...free exchange of ideas...09:39
nomad111will wait09:39
user_oop09:39
jtan325i.e. number of times a package has been installed09:39
s4f3_m0d3so....09:39
jtan325or downloaded09:39
s4f3_m0d3how do you steal opensource things?09:39
zeebles4f3_m0d3: uh ok.09:39
jtan325(assuming the package is in the repos)09:39
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ngranadoanyone in here know how I can reconfigure my fonts for X, for some reason my paths or something to my fonts ahve been screwed up09:40
s4f3_m0d3apt has been a package for RH distros for a while actually09:40
brennerjtan325: eek....don't think there is anything to see stuff like that09:40
brennernot 100% certain though09:40
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zeeblefirst it was in conectiva, who ported apt to rpm. then redhat started using it.09:40
dskloet@ngranado, I seem to have the same problem09:40
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zeeblebut yeah, very wrong choice of words when i said "steal"09:40
ngranadodskloet: really? were you running breezy?09:40
derek_is it possible to net-install ubuntu? and then not select gnome?09:41
derek_and install fluxbox09:41
zeeblewas trying to be humorous up there.09:41
dskloetyes09:41
ngranadodskloet: you did that update?09:41
s4f3_m0d3zeeble, humor translates poorly in text :/09:41
ngranadodskloet: me too, and now I wish I hadn't09:41
zeebles4f3_m0d3: yeah.09:41
JustStevederek_ i don't think so09:41
derek_JustSteve, k09:41
ngranadodskloet: which what kind of card do you have?09:41
dskloet@ngranado: indeed09:41
dskloetgraphics card you mean? asus riva tnt09:42
ngranadoahh09:42
ngranadodskloet: I was running fglrd09:42
zeebleCant you get the whole ubuntu CD, do a expert install, install the base system, and then download whatever packages ytou want?09:42
ngranadodskloet: I was running fglrx*09:42
ngranadodskloet: which font?09:42
naliothderek_: you can install a server only environment from the cd, and then install flux or whatever09:42
ngranadodskloet: mine's complaining about 'fixed'09:42
dskloetng:would the graphics card be the problem?09:42
dskloetng: font fixed09:42
ngranadodamn09:42
ngranadoI don't think the grahpics card is the problem09:42
dskloetng: would it be a general breezy problem?09:43
ngranadodskloet: I think I got a package's config file that I shouldn't have09:43
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ngranadosome x program too...09:43
derek_nalioth ah ok thanks09:43
dskloetng: why do you thank that?09:43
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ngranadodskloet: cause now it's having a problems with the fonts and accessing them, I think it's just a path that's jumbbled up09:44
derek_but I'm somehow trying to minimize my download09:44
derek_is there a smaller CD for server install?09:44
zeebledont think so.09:44
ngranadodskloet: or a path that is not defined properly in a config file somewhere09:44
derek_k09:44
dskloetbut is there someone here who can help us?09:44
silvertonwow09:44
ngranadoderek_: if you want a server install, just install Debian09:44
silverton"glxgears" is running so fuckin slow...09:45
silvertonholy crap09:45
zeebleheh.09:45
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dskloetng: the message suggests there's some path wrong, indeed09:45
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derek_ngranado, but i won't be using it as a server later09:45
ngranadodskloet: it apparently doesn't seem so cause no one has interjected with knowledge09:45
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ngranadoderek_: is hd space a problem?09:45
naliothderek_: same cd09:45
nomad111is the new ubuntu gonna be 64 bit capable09:45
derek_ngranado, no, bandwidth problem09:45
ngranadoahh09:45
ngranadoderek_: I'm sure there's a way to net install09:46
derek_ubuntu won't run on athlon 64?09:46
derek_ngranado, cool09:46
naliothnomad111: yes09:46
nomad111sick09:46
JustStevenomad111 there's a 64 bit version already09:46
nomad111ah k09:46
derek_nomad111, why sick?09:46
ngranadoderek_: I unfortunately haven't had to do that yet09:46
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derek_nomad111, check out the download section at ubuntu.com09:46
nomad111ive only tried fedora so far09:46
ngranadodskloet: how are you running irc?09:46
naliothderek_: perhaps you'd see the wiki on "installing from X" where x is windows, mepis, knoppix, etc09:46
derek_ngranado, ok np09:47
nomad111but i feel like its messy09:47
nomad111my frend recomended ubuntu09:47
nomad111might order a few cd's and give out in university09:47
nomad111spread the love09:47
dskloetng: I just typed irc on my prompt and it worked :)09:47
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ngranadodskloet: cool09:47
ngranadodskloet: that's what I'm using09:47
JustStevederek_ minislack uses flux09:47
ngranadodskloet: this is comedy09:47
dskloet:)09:47
derek_JustSteve, I see. I don't want slack though :)09:48
dskloetngranado: I never use irc but ubuntu.com suggested it could help me09:48
derek_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia09:48
JustStevelol. i know. i almost tried it today09:48
derek__rb_, wassup?09:48
ngranadodskloet: I always use IRC09:48
ngranadodskloet: and the wikis09:48
dskloetngranado: and I thought it might be best readable without X09:48
ngranadodskloet: except I'm kinda fucked with the wiki thing09:48
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Flying-Penguinubuntu09:49
Flying-Penguinw00t09:49
dskloetAny idea how to reconfigure a package? When I do 'dpck --configure ...' it says ... is already installed and configured.09:50
dskloetdpck=dpkg09:50
[Chameleon] anybody want to help me confirm a Breezy bug? you have to have a xine front-end.09:50
bob2dskloet: dpkg-reconfigure blah09:50
silvertondskloet, dpkg-reconfigure foo09:50
bob2tho that only works for things that use debconf09:51
dskloetthanks09:51
silvertonyeah, what he said09:51
dskloetI want to reconfigure my X or fonts in order to get it working again...09:52
dskloetwhich package could I reconfigure?09:52
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_rb_derek_ http://www.pol.co.nz/dave09:52
derek__rb_, ok09:52
_rb_just what i could find09:52
ngranadodskloet: dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg09:52
_rb_my system is never clean enough for me to find anything09:53
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bob2ngranado: dpkg-reconfigure09:53
ngranadobob2: thanks09:53
derek_these are made in blender or max?09:53
JustStevefinding thins... has anyone else tried Beagle? and gotten it to work?09:53
_rb_ngrando, is that the command to use after installing nvidia drivers too ?09:53
dskloetngranado: it says: xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed09:53
[Chameleon] !beagle09:53
ubotuit has been said that beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto09:53
_rb_neither. lightwave 709:53
[Chameleon] bah09:54
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derek_on windoze?09:54
bob2JustSteve: worked for me in breezy09:54
_rb_reason i want to learn blender is that i hate windows, and dont have anything even close to legal in the way of software. love lightwave tho09:54
JustStevei couldn't get it running in hoary09:54
_rb_yeah. in xpee09:54
[Chameleon] JustSteve: Beagle is officially slated for Breezy+109:54
[Chameleon] JustSteve: read what ubotu suggested above.09:54
bob2but is included in breezy, in universe09:54
derek__rb_, you'll be using blender on windows?09:54
[Chameleon] JustSteve: or try Breezy as bob2 suggests.09:55
JustSteveyeah, i just wanted to try it out and see what it did. i'm not going to breezy until full release09:55
_rb_screw that. If i use windows, I use lightwave. but it wont work in linux, so i'm gunna learn blender. principles are the same, just the interface is a real heap different.09:55
derek_okay09:55
JustStevei tried Kubuntu Breezy and discovered i hate KDE09:55
derek_good09:55
Toma-kubuntu = <309:56
dskloetI did apt-get install xserver-xorg and now it's doing a lot. Though I thought I already had it installed...09:56
_rb_i hate kubuntu09:56
_rb_kde is nice09:56
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derek_jump into #blender09:56
derek_kde is a resource hogger09:56
nomad111i like gnome09:56
Toma-derek_: you a twm kinda person?09:56
ngranadooh no, here we go with desktop manager wars09:56
JustStevei like fluxbox better than gnome, but i'm putting off making my menus09:56
derek_Toma-, fluxbox09:56
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derek_ngranado, no we won't :)09:57
_rb_heh. not into dmws09:57
JustStevei run BB4Win on XP :-P09:57
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dskloetI would like to be able to run any wm it this point :(09:57
ngranadodskloet: dude09:58
Toma-9wm09:58
ngranadodskloet: my sources.list got changed back to hoary09:58
JustStevehaving X not work sucks man09:58
ngranadodskloet: i bet there was a apt update09:58
dskloetcan you change back? won't that screw up things even more?09:58
hondjechanging back to hoary in sources.list won't downgrade you09:59
derek__rb_, you know about any online design community that works on linux platform?09:59
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dskloetwhat will it do?09:59
hondjenothing09:59
dskloet:(09:59
hondjeyou'd have to use apt pinning to go back09:59
hondjeit's not very easy09:59
dskloetI don't really want to go back, I just want the fixed font so I can start X again.10:00
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_rb_havent looked for one.10:00
_rb_but if you search by blender, you'll find one10:00
derek_k10:01
brenneri've got a cpu that should be running at 1.6Ghz, but cat/proc/cpuinfo shows: cpu MHz : 800.277......any ideas?10:01
brenner*cat /proc/cpuinfo10:01
Toma-brenner: is it an amd?10:01
brennerToma-: yep10:01
brennersempron 2800+10:02
Toma-ahh i se10:02
Toma-e10:02
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brennerum...i've disabled apic....maybe that's it?10:02
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Toma-weird.10:02
brenneri'd rather not reenable it though...i had that double clock speed prob10:02
Toma-possibly. my sempron 2800 is running at 2000mhz10:02
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Kuolioput in "no_timer_check" and the clock speed gets back to normal10:03
brennerToma-: and is it a 2Ghz machine?10:03
dskloetWhere should the font "fixed" be located and where should it say?10:03
Kuolioto your menu.lst , in /boot/grub/10:03
brennerKuolio: afaik, that's for the 2.6.12 kernel10:03
Toma-seems so10:03
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brenneri'm just running default10:03
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Kuoliobrenner, yep you are right, it's for .12 and newer10:04
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Toma-paste your flags output to me in pm10:04
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brennerflags?10:04
Toma-from cpu_info10:04
brennerah10:04
ngranadodskloet: did you check your sources10:04
dskloetngranado: what do you mean? sources.list?10:05
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ngranadodskloet: check less /etc/apt/sources.list10:05
brennerToma-: this is a presario btw...i should've gone for a thinkpad10:05
Toma-oh... laptop?10:06
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dskloetngranado: it's just the default for warty with a substitute warty/breezy10:06
Toma-hmm cant help10:06
dskloetngranado: why?10:06
ngranadooh, mine was set to hoary10:06
Toma-soz10:06
brennerheh, np10:07
dskloetngranado: was set? by whom?10:07
hondjeProper use of 'whom' in an IRC chan?10:07
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brennerToma-: what kernel you running btw?10:07
Toma-latest one from ubuntu10:08
robotgeekhondje: :)10:08
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robotgeekToma-: uname -a10:08
Toma-2.6.10-5-38610:08
brennerdefault...same as mine10:08
dskloethondje: It's my first time in irc. Shouldn't I use proper english?10:09
hondjehehe10:09
robotgeekdskloet: we are happy abt it :)10:09
dskloetof is nederlands beter?10:09
JustStevehmm, someone release Umicons for Linux on Deviantart10:09
[Chameleon] JustSteve: URL?10:11
dskloetngranado: did you change it to hoary or did it happen automaticaly?10:11
JustStevehttp://www.deviantart.com/deviation/2550034/ says for KDE but there aren't that many kde centric icons10:12
JustStevesomeone already remixed the gnome2 icons as well10:13
kungbrenner you#re still wondering why your laptop does not run at full speed?10:13
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brennerkung: certainly am. :)10:13
kakaltohello10:13
kungthats usual10:13
kungits called speed stepping10:13
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kungand it saves your cpu from overheating10:13
kungand it saves power10:13
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kungif more cpu power is needed the frequency goes up automatically10:14
brennerkung: oh, ok.10:14
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kungif you want to change it on your own you can use programs like cpuspeedy10:14
kakaltoI'm trying to install ubuntu 5.04 on an older computer, and it can't detect the network hardware. It says to go back to "detect network hardware" if I want network, but it just scans, finds nothing, comes up with the same message. What can I do?10:15
brennerkung: if i did a cat while the CPU was running hard, would i see a change?10:15
kungguess it is in the package laptop-mode-tools10:15
kungsure you would10:15
crimsunkakalto: is it an ISA NIC?10:15
JustSteve[Chameleon]  - you like those icons?10:15
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kungyou canchange it manually aswell10:15
brennerkung: thanks for the info...i'll try it now10:15
kakaltocrimsun, not sure10:16
kakaltocrimsun, no, dynalink10:16
crimsunkakalto: nearly all PCI NICs are properly configured via hotplug10:16
brennerkung: what do you know...it changed. :D10:16
kakalto*D-link10:16
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crimsunkakalto: model name/#?10:17
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kungbrenner I guess you could aswell do a "echo 7 > /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling" to set it to full speed, but I'm not quite sure about that, so you better inform youself some more..;)10:17
brennerkung: thanks again....at least i know it ain't faulty10:17
kung:)10:17
kungits not a bug, its a feature - or so..;)10:17
kakaltocrimsun, can't quite see it inside the case10:17
kakaltoI can only see the logo10:17
crimsunkakalto: what does ''lspnp'' report for it?10:18
crimsun(if it's ISA)10:18
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kakaltoI dunno, I'm in the middle of an installation10:18
brenner'nother question: removing windows completely from this dualboot lappy....what's the best way to go about it?10:19
kakaltojust install without network hardware, configure later?10:19
kungbrenner windows was preinstalled?10:19
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kakaltocrimsun, should I just install without network hardware, and try to configure later?10:20
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brennerkung: fraid so10:20
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crimsunkakalto: if you can get at least the model name/#, that's best. Otherwise just continue the installation without the network.10:20
kungon my notebook there were some partitions from the manufacturer including a recovery system and an installation system10:20
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generalHello10:20
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kakaltocrimsun, I'm not sure if this means anything but... "De-220P"10:20
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kungso I first saved these partitons (made a disk image of these) and saved the partition table.10:20
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Cube-nesshey..is there some easy way in ubuntu to open/close ports?10:21
dskloetgeneral: Hello10:21
kungthen you can just resize the windows and install partitions or delete them10:21
MadpilotCube-ness: install Firestarter10:21
ee_larsCube-ness : yes desactivate your firewall ;)10:21
kungI resized them since I still need windows for some scientific stuff :/10:21
Madpilotspeaking of ports: can someone point me toward a legal Torrent that they *know* works? I'm still not sure I've got gTorrent & Firestarter playing nice...10:22
brennerkung: ok, i'm not quite sur i got you...do i have to reinstall?  isn't there a way of just deleting the partition and installing GRUB somewhere?10:22
kungsure10:22
Cube-nessee_lars, huh?10:22
kungyou can just delete it10:22
kungbut then its gone10:22
brennerafaik, i only had the one partition with windows on it10:22
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brennerkung: er, that's what i want. :)10:23
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Kuoliobrenner: do a fresh install and when asked about partitioning, opt for advanced and format all your drives.. that should be the easiest way.. and, might add, install breezy, it's stable enough nowadays (so you dont need to dist-upgrade in a few weeks)10:23
brennerie going ubuntu-only. :)10:23
kungand I'd always install grup in the master boot record10:23
kungno matter if windows is on the notebook or not10:23
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derek__rb_, http://www.pol.co.nz/dave/watch.jpg ...nice!10:23
Kuolioupzie, *format your windows partition*10:23
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kungjust install grub wherever you like, it can access you linux partitions anywhere on the harddisk10:24
brennerKuolio: so fresh install is easiest?  i might as well just wait for the official breezy release...10:24
brennerkung: righto then10:24
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Renski2hey all10:24
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Renski2Im trying to use apt-get to install apache, however its asking me to insert the 5.04 CD, which is currently at the office. How can I get it to not ask for the CD, and download it instead?10:25
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brennerRenski: remove it from your sources.list file10:26
Redactechremove the cd from sources.list10:26
samu2Renski, you can disable the CD from the repositories section in synaptic package manager10:26
Renski2wheres my sources.list file?10:26
brennersudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list10:26
Redactech/etc/apt/10:26
samu2Easier to do it through synaptic.10:26
haffeIs it safe to change to breezy repositories now?10:27
brennerheh...i find the synaptic method a bit confusing to tell the truth10:27
haffeI tried during the summer and my system borked.10:27
Renski2comment out this line?10:27
Renski2deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted10:27
samu2brenner, are you used to many years of editing your sources.list?10:27
brennerRenski: that's the one.10:27
Renski2thanks10:27
silvertonomfg, I love this!10:28
samu2GUI > Editing config files manually10:28
Renski2samu2, id rather do it through the conf file10:28
silvertonI'm getting near 10mbit from my cable company :D10:28
brennersamu2: not really...warty was my first debian-based distro10:28
Cube-nessi am just wanting to let https traffic come through..10:28
Redactechanyone experience apt-get stopping at Main Packages.gz10:28
Redactechin Breezy ?10:28
kunguh, no10:28
s4f3_m0d3where do i get ubuntu ppc nvidia drivers?10:28
kungI installed the original ones from nvidia10:29
kungat least for my x8610:29
s4f3_m0d3yeah10:29
s4f3_m0d3PPC is different10:29
MadpilotCube-ness: you should get https thru by default - aren't you?10:29
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kungso it should work with the ppc ones aswell10:29
robotgeeks4f3_m0d3: i don't think u have binaries for ppc10:29
s4f3_m0d3robotgeek, and?10:29
Redactechanyone has a breezy install right now ?10:30
Cube-nessMadpilot, i just treid form another computer.. yes it is.. hehe.. i guess my issue is my router, but i could swea i opened port 44310:30
Renski2im getting conneciton refused on 127.0.0.1, what do I to get it running?10:30
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MadpilotRenski: you've got Apache installed? wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP has start/stop/restart info10:31
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robotgeeks4f3_m0d3: i am not sure10:31
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kungoh, no orignal nvida drivers for ppc linux strange10:31
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sedatbreezy here10:33
samu2brenner, I have to admit I found synaptic's way of dealing with repositories a bit confusing at first.s10:33
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Redactechsedat : did you apt-get update recently ?10:33
_rb_derek_ cheers about the watch.10:33
derek__rb_, ;)10:33
sedatnow10:33
brennersamu2: heh, maybe it's b/c the sample sources.list is so well commented. :)10:33
sedaty?10:34
derek__rb_, check this out: http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php310:34
Redactechmy stop at  http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages [572kB] 10:34
Redactech43% [17 Packages 206519/572kB 36%] 10:34
_rb_unfortunately, its not the final. cant find that.10:34
derek__rb_, for combustion in windoze10:34
Redactechsedat : whatever the miror I choose10:34
derek_('discreet combustion')10:34
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_rb_the final had the bezier engraving and the wear maps. it was basically a replica of the wath i wore at the time10:34
derek__rb_, cool10:34
derek_is this your latest model?10:34
sedatsynaptic fails too then while refreshing?10:35
fekmoin10:35
Redactechapt-get update and synaptic give error after the update10:35
starshinehello10:35
kakaltowhat is the minimum/recommended specs for ubuntu?10:35
sedat500 athlon running fine here10:36
kakaltoya think it'll run on a pentium 233?10:36
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sedatgnome?10:36
Redactechsedat : Impossible de rcuprer http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)10:36
Redactechyes10:36
kakaltosedat, are you using xfce?10:36
Redactechnope10:36
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sedatnope10:37
sedatgnome10:37
kakaltoohk10:37
naliothkakalto: yes, with a lightweight window mangler10:37
sedatbut only my second day with ubuntu10:37
RedactechI got gnome yes10:37
derek_"Cinelerra takes what normally is a boring server operating system - studied in computer science classrooms, hidden in back offices - and turns it into a 50,000 watt flamethrower of multimedia editing power."10:37
s4f3_m0d3um....10:37
robotgeekkakalto: yeah, you can put fluxbox/openbox on it also and be cool10:37
kakaltoI'm gonna try with gnome, but I expect the need to switch to my beautiful xfce10:37
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brennernalioth: mangler? :)10:37
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Frafrahi all10:37
indianhi10:37
kakaltohi Frafra10:37
brennerkakalto: how much RAM do you have?10:37
kakalto256M10:37
derek_hi indian10:38
indianhi10:38
ColonelKernelshould be able to do gnome with 25610:38
derek_kaise ho?10:38
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brennerkakalto: same here...it's a little sluggish10:38
Frafrai must configure a canonscan D660U10:38
indianchennai se10:38
sedatjust remember patience is a virtue10:38
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derek_i asked how you are :)10:38
indianacche hoom10:38
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derek_k10:38
derek_you don't speak hindi much?10:38
kakaltosedat, how can I forget patience is a virtue when running a 233?10:38
Frafraxsane doesn't work10:38
robotgeekderek_,indian : join #ubuntu-offtopic we can speak in hindi/tamil10:39
Redactechsedat : I got this error W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists10:39
ColonelKernelUGH!!!! 23310:39
indianhan jee10:39
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sedatredac, c seulement ma deuxieme jour avec linux10:39
indianaapkidher se10:39
sedati can update that one10:39
kakaltoColonelKernel, I ran that thing for atleast 5 years on WinME, (dunno how I lasted) but now I'm trying to revive it after about a year of no use10:39
_rb_cinelerra wont compile on my system10:39
derek__rb_, why not?10:40
_rb_cant remember the problem10:40
kakaltowin 95, then ME10:40
Redactechsedat : ah je veux juste savoir si y a un probleme avec les mirroirs10:40
_rb_something beginning with x not present10:40
ColonelKernelyou should be able to pull gnome then10:40
_rb_farkd around for ages to try to make it work10:40
derek_kakalto, then hell10:40
Redactechsedat : good luck with linux and drop here anytime with your problems10:40
sedatjpense pas parce que tous les miroirs update bon10:40
sedatthx10:40
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sedatooops10:41
sedatbe.archive.ubuntu.com is working fine10:41
sedatsorry i missed that10:41
derek__rb_, :(10:41
Redactechsedat thanks I'm trying this one10:41
kakaltoI tried ubuntu on it previously, when it had an 8mb savage trio64, and it didn't work10:42
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brennerkung: still here?10:42
kakaltobut now I have a Riva TNT2 w/ 32m !10:42
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sedatare there any good partition managers to resize ntfs and fat32?10:42
haffePartion Magic.10:43
haffeqtparted10:43
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kakaltoPartition Magic ain't free though aye10:43
Redactechgparted in your live cd10:43
athlonanyone using amarok in breezy ? whats the latest version available in the repo ?10:43
Kuolio1.310:43
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athlonthanks10:44
sedatalready installed ;)10:44
sedatthanks10:44
athlonwait 1.3 instead of 1.3.1 ?10:44
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Frafrawho could help me?10:44
Kuolioathlon: 1.3.110:44
athlonah okay, thanks10:44
crimsun1.3.1 was uploaded and built yesterday.10:44
Kuolioit was added last night, some 12h ago10:44
MadpilotFrafra: have you searched the Ubuntu forums with your scanner name?10:44
sedati think the ubuntu installer still needs some serious work btw10:45
kakaltoyeh10:45
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kakaltobut atleast the actual distro is pretty good10:45
sedatthe autopartition thingy doesnt start on my laptop10:45
kakaltothe installer only needs to be used once, the rest can be used daily10:45
_rb_in windows i used to use after effects tho10:46
FrafraMadpilot: canonscan D660U not found10:46
_rb_and cinestream10:46
sedati nearly gave up though10:46
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brennersedat: when you manually edit the partition table?10:46
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sedatmanually worked10:46
dansthi everyone! I wanted to compile imms for bmp and encountered some problems, is there somebody who tried / wants to try the same?10:46
sedatbut only had a 2 gig partition free10:46
heatxsinkoh man that dsk guy left huh?10:46
heatxsinkI got my X server up and running again10:46
sedatwhich is too small, so it faild10:46
robotgeekdanst: imms?10:47
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kakaltois xubuntu going to happen?10:47
FrafraMadpilot: I've found it here: http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-CANON10:47
robotgeekdanst: do u have beep-media-player-dev installed, if imms is a plugin for bmp10:47
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danstrobotgeek: imms is a plugin which acts as an intelligent playlist10:48
whistlerhello10:48
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RedactechIs there anyone having problem with breezy update today ?10:49
sedatqtparted question: can i move a partition as the free space is is between two logical partitions, so cant resize my primary one10:49
brennerdanst: maybe post a HOWTO on the forum if you want to share...10:50
robotgeekdanst: try it after getting the dev package, and let us know if that worked10:50
whistlerRedactech everything was fine last time.I updated at 9.30 am10:50
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concept10danst: have you tried to use the imms .deb for xmms?10:51
heatxsinkanyone else notice on their laptop that their eraser head doesn't ALWAYS work?10:51
danstconcept: no i didnt try this one do you think itll work for bmp as well?10:51
robotgeekmy laptop has an eraser head?10:51
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s4f3_m0d3robotgeek, stick for mouse movment10:51
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s4f3_m0d3ya know, old skool10:52
danstI already downloaded all dev pgs avail, and i would love to write a howto but I cant compile it theres always this error ../immscore/xidle.cc:50: error: `display' undeclared (first use this function) (and some more...)10:52
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sedatanyone noticed their touchpad movement is way too fast?10:52
brennerdanst: sorry...thought you solved it and wanted to tell us. :)10:52
robotgeeksedat: can change that10:52
concept10danst: It wouldnt hurt to try, if it doesnt work just remove the deb.  Some/most XMMS plugins work with BMP, some dont.10:52
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danstconcept10: ok ill try that10:53
sedatsliders dont have too much effect, affects my mouse only it seems10:53
heatxsinkRedactech:  I am10:53
heatxsinkRedactech:  I did10:53
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=== concept10 streamripper just added 100 songs to my collection :)
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umarhi everyone10:54
sedatslm10:54
derek_umar shareef10:55
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dskloetI got my X working by changing the font paths in xorg.conf but gnome doesn't start (breezy). Anyone?10:55
danstconcept10: streamripper rox10:55
pwlogin ?10:55
RedactechIf nobody have problem with updating their breezy I must suppose the problem comes with me...10:55
umari need help regarding modem drivers10:55
umari have conexant HCF modem10:55
umari downloaded drivers from linuxant10:55
z|banditodoes ubuntu natively support clustering via open mozix or something similar?10:56
umarbut i dont have linuxant license key and modem is operatin on 14.4 kbps10:56
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sedatmount tool gui recommendations anyone?10:56
umaranone can help me ?10:56
concept10danst: yes, it does.. im about to rip about 6 streams at one time until it fills the drive :)10:56
umar?10:56
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danst;-)10:57
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umaranyone can tell me the solution for linuxant license key/10:58
umar??10:58
robotgeeksedat: gnome-applet okay?10:58
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brennerumar: er, buy the key?10:58
brennerlicense even10:59
thoreauputicumar: off topic - pay them or change modems10:59
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umarit is said linux is free10:59
umarthen y is this10:59
thoreauputicumar: free as in Freedom, not price11:00
umari have already payed for modem11:00
yculhi everyone11:00
brennerblame the company that made the winmodem11:00
umary do i pay for drivers now11:00
Madpilotumar: so contact the company...11:00
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concept10danst: do you use audioscrobbler?11:00
umarthere is not any kind of hacking the key11:01
concept10with BMP11:01
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Redactechumar : comon11:01
heatxsinkis there a way of speeding up ubuntu's bootup?11:01
thoreauputicumar: complain to the people who won't release specifications, not to the GNU/Linux community11:01
yculhi11:01
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heatxsinkit always pauses on Configuring Network Interfaces11:01
apsynchi, I have just installed ubuntu, he asked me to create a user with password i said yes etc etc, but now, what's the password for root?11:01
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heatxsinkeither that, or eliminating my modem from that step?11:01
Madpilotapsync: so root by default....11:01
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yculwat are this stuff alll about?11:01
umarmeans u ppl cant help me11:01
Madpilot!tell apsync about root11:01
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apsyncthank you11:01
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thoreauputicumar: you were told: cracking is off-topic here11:02
thenuke!tell thenuke about root11:02
Madpilotapsync: sorry, meant to say "no root by default"... read ubotu's msg, anyway!11:02
bmgzI got a problem with Cinelerra 2.0 : mpeg2enc.plugin is missing..11:02
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umartell me where should i go to talk abt this topic11:02
sedatcnn11:02
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sedatpeople do care ''11:03
apsyncOk, so root is disabled, then in shell, when I type 'su' it asks me for a password, what is that password then?11:03
thoreauputicumar: write to your modem manufacturer and politely ask them to release specifications so that the community can write drivers for their product11:03
Redactechapsync use sudo instead11:03
Madpilotapsync: the sudo pw is your user pw11:04
apsyncI see, thank you11:04
Redactechand then your user password11:04
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heatxsink???11:04
apsyncone more thing, is gcc installed by default?11:04
Redactechno11:05
Redactechapt-get update gcc11:05
thoreauputicapsync: it's on the disk - install build-essential11:05
Redactechapt-get install gcc11:05
apsyncOk :-)11:05
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thoreauputicRedactech: no, build-essential11:05
thenukeapsync: apt-get install build-essential instead of gcc11:05
Redactechyes master11:05
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apsyncok11:06
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sedatqtparted error committing device, this means trouble right?11:06
galorinI've just installed kubuntu onto a Sony Vaio, VGN-a115b.  I've tried googling, but no results on this.  When shutting down, the machine does not power off completely.  Holding down the power button is needed to turn it off completely.11:06
thoreauputicRedactech: the point is, installing gcc by itself is not enough - hence build-essential11:06
Redactechgalorin : www.laptop-linux.net11:06
pc2hi11:07
pc2asl pls11:07
Redactechthoreauputic: why so ?11:07
thoreauputicRedactech: build-essential pulls in stuff like "make" and other bits needed to compile things (metapackage)11:08
thoreauputicRedactech: it's just a convenient short-cut :)11:08
[LethAL] Is there a way I can resize the extended partition that Ubuntu is on?11:09
[LethAL] I.e. I have 3 other primary partitions11:09
brennerRedactech: does that site you gave exist?11:09
Redactechthoreauputic: I compile thing from time to time and never had to install anything else than gcc11:09
nightswimw11:09
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rccj11:10
pc2hi11:10
galorinRedactech, no entyr for the laptop there.  and it's linux-laptop.net11:10
p0windahany ubuntu users here that are also toontown users ? and have it working under ubuntu ?11:10
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thoreauputicRedactech: well, the better advice is to install buid-essential (ask any debian/ubuntu person) - but whatever worked for you11:10
rccsds11:10
rcchuy11:10
sedatnon-free programs can't end up in repositories?11:11
p0windahthey end up in non-free repositories11:11
Redactechthanks thoreau I'll do that11:12
pc2rethh11:12
Redactechbut that doesn't help me with my update problem howhever11:12
thoreauputicRedactech: just one of those distro specific oddities ;-)11:12
Quadiagenanyone know how I can change what GRUB boots by default11:13
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QuadiagenI am dual-booting XP and ubuntu11:13
[LethAL] Quadiagen, /boot/grub/menu.lst11:13
[LethAL] Probably number for11:14
[LethAL] 411:14
Quadiagenk, thx11:14
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[LethAL] Since I keep putting it on 3 and "Other operating systems" isn't an OS ;)11:14
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Redactechthoreauputic :  sigh11:15
pc2punkgirl11:15
sedatgui mounting tool available in ubuntu? if not, please reccoment one11:15
galorinsedat, what's giving you difficulty?11:15
pc2hi11:15
Redactechsedat : try the instructions in the ubuntuguide.org11:15
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thoreauputic!ubuntuguide11:16
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.11:16
thoreauputic!faq11:17
ubotuI heard faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)11:17
Redactechthe instruction about mounting are OK11:17
Madpilot!+mount11:17
uboturumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives11:17
brennerheh.....isnt that saying: ubguide is bad, but we're gonna use it as a base in breezy!11:17
thoreauputicRedactech: yes, lots of the ubuntuguide stuff is OK - that factoid is a bit harsh11:17
brennerit also doesn't recommend any other help avenues...ie the wiki11:18
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derek[] "mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem"11:18
kakaltoLOL11:18
derek[] lol11:18
kakaltoubuntu installer is bugged!11:18
[LethAL] O.o11:18
kakaltobuggy11:18
Redactechhe is asking about a gui thing11:18
kakaltohah!11:18
bdude1992hi11:19
kakaltoI entered a password, enters11:19
kakaltogah11:19
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crimsunkakalto: that's not incorrect, it's just not quite spoon-feeding11:19
thoreauputicbrenner: apparently the author of ubuntuguide wasapproached but doesn't want to co-operate with the doc team , as I understand it11:19
_rb_okay peeps. whats the deal with "XF86VidModeModeInfo" ? Where do i get it ?11:19
kakaltoI entered a password, entered a different pass for the second time. rinse & repeat another two times, now I can't add users, methinks11:19
sedatfstabbing/mounting  i manged to do, but i don't like the terminal so would be good to have a configurable gui tool to do it for me11:19
robotgeeksedat: right click -> add to panel -> drive mount applet11:19
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crimsunkakalto: you _are_ technically _adding_ a partition to your visible filesystems11:20
yculhi11:20
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kakaltocrimsun, huh?11:20
brennersedat: if you've got fstab set up, you can use the gnome applet to mount them11:20
brenneriirc11:20
sedataah11:20
sedati see11:20
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crimsunkakalto: regarding "mount"11:20
yculhey11:21
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kakaltocrimsun, I wasn't LOLing at that11:21
yculfrom wat places are you?11:21
kakaltothat was a coincidence11:21
_rb_anyone able to tell me where i get XF86VidModeModeInfo from ?11:21
crimsunkakalto: ah, sorry11:21
kakalto:)11:21
sedatthx everybody11:21
brennerthoreauputic: who exactl is the doc team anyway?11:21
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kakaltoI think the ubuntu installer is a little screwy11:21
brenner*exactly11:21
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sedatbut will continue to bug yall so dont think u got rid of me that easily11:21
sedatkaka+111:22
robotgeekbrenner: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamProjects11:22
brennerah. :)11:22
thoreauputicbrenner: there an ubuntu-doc mailing list - I think Jerome Gotangco (sp) ? co-ordinates the team11:22
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derek[] bbl11:22
yculhi11:22
naliothbrenner: always causing trouble, it seems, lol11:22
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yculfrom wat places are you?11:22
yculfrom wat places are you?11:22
yculfrom wat places are you?11:22
yculfrom wat places are you?11:22
yculfrom wat places are you?11:22
yculfrom wat places are you?11:22
yculfrom wat places are you?11:22
yculfrom wat places are you?11:22
apokryphosycul: stop11:23
yculfrom wat places are you?11:23
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robotgeeki don't understand these ppl11:23
apokryphosrobotgeek: just an eager beaver 8)11:23
heatxsinkanyone have any idea what to search for that edits in what order things boot up and how?11:23
sedathumans are more compicated than robots11:23
heatxsinksearch the ubuntu wiki of course11:23
topyliyeah, humans suck11:24
[LethAL] Any know how can I resize my extended partition which contains this here Ubuntu installation? I'm single-booting atm.11:24
robotgeeksedat: u think u've got me all figured out, :)11:24
brennernalioth: not fast enough it seems11:24
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[LethAL] sedat, only fttb11:24
p0windahdoes ubuntu have an rc.d gui manager ? or is there talk of one ?11:24
p0windahrobotgeek: botsnack11:24
p0windah:)11:24
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sedatFiber To The Building?11:24
brennerp0windah: rcconf iirc11:25
[LethAL] For the time being11:25
topylip0windah: sysv-rc-conf is pretty nice. it's a console gui :)11:25
p0windahyou know what I mean though, something pretty for gnome11:25
p0windahreal men use cat and echo for all config changes11:25
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topylilazy people prefer awk and sed11:26
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robotgeekor vi11:26
p0windahtoo esy11:27
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bob2heatxsink: /usr/share/doc/sysvrc11:28
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bob2heatxsink: it's usually a bad idea to reorder things, tho; things have dependencies that my not be obvious, and the ubuntu and debian developers have set them the way they are for a reason11:28
sedatreal men are independent11:28
heatxsinkbob2:  any idea why that starting network interfaces takes so damned long?11:29
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apsynchi, I have just added a application using "Add Applications", how can I remove an application ?11:29
bob2heatxsink: because your dhcp server sucks or is not connected11:30
heatxsinkahh11:30
bob2apsync: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto11:30
heatxsinkI bet my eth0 one is the one that's jacke dup11:30
apsyncthank you11:30
sedatsame place11:30
kakaltohas anyone else had issues with the 5.04 install process, where, when making a user/password, and you enter a different password each time it asks, it just cycles around without making a user?11:30
sedatuntick the boxes11:30
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HoxzerI have problem with azureus, before it opened a icon on top of the screen but now it only creates second window named by "Unknow window"11:30
bob2kakalto: you mean it fails to work if you later enter matching passwords?11:30
kakaltoI mean, even when you enter the same password after the first time or two11:30
kakaltoyeah11:31
Hoxzerhow could I get the icon back to top of the screen?11:31
bob2that'd be a bug, tho I haven't heard of it11:31
kakaltoI'm just wondering whether I should bother reporting it, or has it been fixed in the recent pre-releases11:31
bob2kakalto: the bts does list fixed bugs, too...11:31
kakaltowhat's the 'bts'?11:32
topylikakalto: if it is a bug, it's a bug in a supported release. so yes, you should file it11:32
sedatfree space on drive should be checked too btw11:32
bob2kakalto: bugzilla.ubuntu.com11:32
kakaltorighto11:32
fakedbug tracking system=bts11:32
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brownie17nalioth, you about?11:34
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hussamWhen I try to login using session type failsafe, I get this error:11:34
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hussam Xsession: unable to launch failsafe x session ---x-terminal-emulator not found; aborting11:34
hussam.11:34
hussamanybody knows how to fix that?11:34
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sleptinstall xterm11:35
naliothbrownie17: yes i am11:35
enchanterHow to suspend/resume?11:35
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naliothbrownie17: you left last night too quickly for me to tell you about gaim11:35
brownie17nalioth, oh ok. sorry. what can you tell me/11:35
hussamslept: that message for me?11:35
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enchanterI hope to press "Fn-F1" to make it suspend. But it does not work on my laptop11:36
slepthussam, yes, what do you want to do ?11:36
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naliothbrownie17: open a terminal and type "gaim -a"11:36
apsyncis it possible to use mouse4 button (back) and mouse5 button (next) on my mouse in Ubuntu? Since it's a Microsoft I dont think there are drivers for Ubuntu...11:36
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wrtpeepshi?11:36
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derek[] its a question?11:37
sedato yea, any webcam enabled IM compatible wit MSN ?11:37
hussamslept: ok I'll try installing xterm11:37
wrtpeepswhen i try to run americas army, i get the following error:11:37
wrtpeepsCouldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual11:37
wrtpeepsanyone know which pakcage i have to install11:37
wrtpeeps(i have installed nvidia-glx)11:37
[LethAL] Did you enable it?11:37
wrtpeepshow do i do that?11:37
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sleptenchanter, you  have to do apm --suspend ,  if that works you can make a keybinding for that somewhere in the gnome menu11:37
[LethAL] I dunno, someone will11:37
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Juhazapsync, you can get those buttonpresses detected, but almost no application will do anything with them11:38
wrtpeepsanyone know how i enable nvidia-glx package?11:38
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enchanterslept, thanks, I will try it11:38
apsyncah, Ok :-)11:38
markumanhey,,, xfce crashed and now i cant clickt right on desktop?! what should i start so that works again?11:38
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fakedwrtpeeps: m-a ai nvidia11:38
bob2wrtpeeps: that's in the FAQ11:38
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bob2wrtpeeps: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto11:38
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siimoanyone know why my partitions listed in fstab dont show up in nautilus 2.12 ? only my usb key and cdrw drive shows up11:39
wrtpeepsthanks  bob2 and faked11:39
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aromaanybody could assit me how to install my webcam does all webcams supported by linux11:39
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brownie17nalioth, still doesn't show up in the panel thinger, like next to the clock.11:40
workstation4hi!!!!11:40
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Majst0rHey, ppl! Anyone knows which distribution of Ubuntu will work on a powerbook g4?11:40
naliothbrownie17: you enabled it in the manu?11:40
lynlynhui\11:40
lynlynhi11:40
lynlynwana chat???????????11:41
robotgeeklynlyn: #ubuntu-offtopic11:41
workstation4can anybody give me some info on how to install webcams on Linux???11:41
lynlynhiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii11:41
robotgeekMajst0r: ubuntu works on a powerbook g4, but is it a new one11:41
naliothMajst0r: any of them11:41
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HoxzerI need to get my azureus back to bar :E11:41
k0pI have no sound :| @  Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)   help me please :\11:41
Majst0rrobotgeek: No.. Not a new one.11:41
naliothMajst0r: any of them11:41
Majst0rIt won't boot.11:41
crimsunk0p: lspci -v|grep -i audio11:42
lynlynhelloooooooooooooooooooooooo11:42
sleptsiimo, they are mounted somewhere (look at mountpoint), they are in your filesystem11:42
naliothmagnon: even when you hold the "c" key or "alt-option"?11:42
crimsunlynlyn: we read you.11:42
Majst0rI tried holding the "c"..11:42
naliothMajst0r: even when you hold the "c" key or "alt-option"?11:42
lynlynhow are you?11:42
brownie17nalioth: what do i enable? "man gaim" deoes not give me much worth doing11:42
Majst0rBut what's the alt-option?11:42
Hoxzerwhat is my problem if azureus creates two windows on start up and doesn't create icon to the bar :E11:42
[LethAL] lynlyn, This isn't for chatting, this is for helping11:42
naliothlynlyn: this is a help channel, not a social one. please join #ubuntu-offtopic11:42
siimoslept, yes but i could see these as "drives" in nautilus computer  in the previous version11:42
k0pcrimsun, 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)11:43
crimsunk0p: cat /proc/asound/cards11:43
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sedataroma11:43
lynlynsorry11:43
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sleptsiimo, if they are mounted things are perfect,  what are you looking for ?11:43
siimoslept, i want to see them as drives under computer11:44
k0pcrimsun, well, I haven't machine here :(11:44
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sedataroma: libmimic maybe?11:45
brownie17nalioth, i'll just reinstall GAIM, dw11:45
naliothbrownie17: do an "sudo apt-get --purge remove gaim"11:45
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sedatwhat does purge do?11:45
sleptsiimo, why ? the concept of mounting things is very nice , you can change mountpoints to fit your needs ,eg to your homedir11:45
BockBilbohello11:45
sleptsedat, remove the config11:46
naliothsedat: removes config files11:46
siimoslept, because i dont have it mounted all the time11:46
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brownie17nalioth, yep it's all done. have you figured out my quake problem yet?11:46
siimoso its easy to mount/umountt if i had a drive icons there11:46
naliothbrownie17: waiting on you, my friend11:46
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sleptsiimo, and thats the way you want things to be ? If you want them to be mounted remove the noauto in fstab11:47
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gerarconehow can i do to eliminate the sound when i open ubuntu? i tried to eliminate the sound for the login in the audio dialog but it still doesn't work11:47
siimook11:47
BockBilboi have 2 continuous ext3 partitions on my HD, the first one with data and the second one with no data. Is it possible to convert then two into just one ext3 partition with the data of the first one?11:47
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siimoanother thing thats missing is Menu > Run11:48
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sedatlol11:48
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sedatmenu run11:48
BockBilbosiimo, do alt+f211:48
brownie17nalioth, well i'm ready to start quaking. got any hints?11:48
sedatull get to enter more commands then ull want11:48
great_lookzdoes anybody here knows how to install webcams on ubuntu11:49
sleptBockBilbo, you can install lvm11:49
sedatgreat lookz11:49
siimoBockBilbo, nice :)11:49
gerarconenobody can help me?11:49
gerarcone:(11:49
naliothbrownie17: watch your screen11:49
BockBilboslept, what does it do?11:49
sedattheres something like libmimic i heard11:49
apsyncI still have winxp on my hd1(master) and ubuntu on hd2(slave), how can I browse my master HD ?11:49
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kemik!tell apsync about ntfs11:49
hussamI reinstalled xterm but I still can't log in to failsafe session. It still complains about x-terminal11:49
apsyncthank you11:50
gwenkshey guys, i need some hep11:50
gwenkshelp11:50
great_lookzhow will i install webcam on Linux11:50
sedathttp://www.jblinux.net/libmimic/ => msn thingy11:50
p0windahgreat_lookz: hang on11:50
gwenksi just recently installed ubuntu11:50
sedati think11:50
[LethAL] Could someone tell me where should I put a modeline in xorg.conf again?11:50
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gwenksbut when I tried to open the browser11:50
p0windahgreat_lookz: what kind of webcam and what version of ubuntu ?11:50
sleptBockBilbo, you can put partitions together to   volume and then create  small volumes inside, they can be shrinked ore grown , its great11:50
gwenksIt wont open11:51
gwenksand disapperas in the taskbar11:51
great_lookzA4 tech webcam and 5.1 version Ubuntu version11:51
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sedatlogitech quickcam over here11:52
BockBilbothanks slept11:52
p0windahgreat_lookz: search google for "breezy a4 tech webcam" and click on the first match....11:52
p0windahgreat_lookz: which you really shouldnt need to be told11:52
gwenksyap me too11:53
BockBilbosedat, does your qc work on ubuntu?11:53
gwenkslogitech webcam11:53
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great_lookzok ill try11:53
p0windahgreat_lookz: then from there, start hunting around the forums11:53
ulissehello tribe!11:53
VoXhow do i go about installing 32-bit libs on an amd64?11:53
NiLzhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/224611:53
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HoxzerI have problem: some time ago azurues opened icon on top of the screen bar now days it creates second window that has that icon11:53
great_lookzand then?11:53
NiLzwhy is my ext3 fs mounted as ext2?11:53
sedatsearching for it now11:53
NiLz+ i have an error on startup11:53
sleptBockBilbo, ask ubotu or dpkg for a howto , and if you decide to make your whole disk lvm , keep round 50MB for boot which mustnt be lvm11:53
VoXnilz: what error11:53
sedatlooks like somebody took it11:53
sedatso cant test11:53
dazvidAre there any programs I can use to record video from a webcam?11:53
thoreauputicNiLz: it satarts as ext2 - then adds the journal11:53
p0windahgreat_lookz: if you arent prepared to read, what makes you think people in here are gonna do it for you ?11:54
ulisseI have a strange behaviour with Nautilus, I want to know if it happens to others too, before opening a bug11:54
NiLzthat e2fsck is unable to do smth, cause the fs has some unsupported features11:54
thoreauputicNiLz: ext3 is just ext2 + journalling11:54
NiLzand I have to press ctrl+d to continue with booting11:54
apsyncseems like I can't play mp3's, where can I find the standard codecs for ubuntu?11:54
ulissemy Nautilus speaks italian, but after midnight it becomes englis...11:54
NiLzthoreauputic: the journalling is pretty essential :)11:54
sedatlol11:54
NiLzthoreauputic: I mean speedwise11:54
VoXulisse: heh that's a bit odd11:54
apsync"There were no decoders found"11:54
waldeNiLz, what is the errormessage during bootup?11:54
gwenkshow am I going to install yahoo messenger??11:54
great_lookzok thanks anyway11:54
BockBilbothanks slept gonna google about it11:54
brownie17ulisse, simple solution: "go to bed earlier :)"11:55
NiLzwalde: lemme check the dmesg, 1 sec11:55
thoreauputicNiLz: yes, journalling is nice to have, indeed :)11:55
gwenksyahoo says i have to go to "RooT" and type a certain command11:55
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sedatterminal = sudo before every command11:56
galoringwenks, I've found GAIM to be a good program, that speaks Yahoo11:56
ulissebrownie17, VoX, so I think it happens only to me...11:56
gwenkshow am i going to the root and type a certain command11:56
_rb_how do i fix cirular dependencies with apt-get ?11:56
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sedatgwenks, put sudo and the the command11:56
NiLzwalde: ah. well can't find it in the dmesg, anyway it says something about my filesystem which has some unsupported features and that I should get a newer version of e2fsck there's a shell11:56
NiLzand I need to press ctrl+d to continue booting11:56
sedatsudo apt-get ... for instance11:56
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thoreauputic_rb_: should not happen unless your /etc/apt/sources.list is wrong11:56
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apsynchow can I test my sound is working?11:57
waldeNiLz, just an idea. Do you compiled a new kernel without ext3?11:57
p0windah:)11:57
[LethAL] apsync, Play a sound?11:57
apsyncyes.11:57
apsyncnot working11:57
thoreauputicapsync: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp11:57
apsyncmaybe codecs?11:57
_rb_trying to install cinelerra11:57
[LethAL] You might need to turn it up, Ubuntu is quiet11:57
thoreauputicapsync: that should make a noise11:57
thoreauputic:)11:57
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sedati guess the same questions get asked about 100 times a day not?11:58
thoreauputicsedat: pretty much, yes :)11:58
BockBilbois it possible to umount  a swap partition?11:58
apsynchmm11:58
p0windahyup11:58
gwenksgalorin: GAIM? but how can show my list of contcts?11:59
p0windahBockBilbo: swapoff the partition and then set your swappiness to 011:59
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apsyncseems like my sound is not working or I am missing mp3/avi codecs12:00
gwenkswhere am i going to get the SUDO? im no that technical.. thnks12:00
BockBilbop0windah, where do i set my swappiness to 0?12:00
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thoreauputic!tell apsync about codecs12:00
galoringwenks, it'll show all of the ones currently online, and in toolspreferences you can set it to see all the offline ones too.12:00
p0windahits in /proc/sys/vm/swappiness12:00
BockBilbothanks12:00
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sedatstartmenu - aids - terminal12:00
pluffsyhello12:00
sedator something like that12:00
BockBilboi gues just a cat 0>/proc/sys/vm/swappiness right?12:00
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sedatstartmenu is lefttop corner of screen12:01
pluffsyI can't seem to get this character:  on top of another character as I can on other OS:es. how do I solve that?12:01
galoringwenks, sorry, under buddies12:01
p0windahBockBilbo: yeah, do that for testing first. if its all good use vm.swappiness=0 in /etc/sysctlo.conf12:01
BockBilbook12:01
sedatthen you can type the command yahoo thing asks you to12:01
pluffsyit turns out like this when I try: emile12:01
sedatyou cant go gui-root afaik12:01
p0windahBockBilbo: I dont need to tell you that you should have enough ram so this wont cause problems12:01
crimsunpluffsy: add the character pallet utility to your panel12:02
crimsunpluffsy: and/or set a compose key12:02
BockBilbop0windah, i have 1 Gb12:02
BockBilbo;)12:02
pluffsycrimsun, what is a compose key?12:02
p0windahBockBilbo: and use echo "0" >,... not cat 012:02
BockBilbop0windah, yeah.. it was my bad12:02
BockBilbocat is to read, echo its to print in screen12:03
BockBilbo:S12:03
BockBilbobrb12:03
dazvidAre there any programs I can use to record video from a webcam?12:03
NiLzwalde: nope, I'm using a stock kernel12:03
crimsunpluffsy: it's a key that allows you to use the extended chars (hence the "compose" name)12:03
_rb_anyone able to help me ? i need xf86vidmode for cinelerra. cant find it anywhere12:03
NiLzwalde: + my / and /boot are mounted as ext312:03
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crimsunpluffsy: like this-> 12:03
sedatanyone got to play cs:source under ubntu???12:04
NiLzwalde: this one partition which has these proublems was not formatted during the setup12:04
dazvidsedat: I surely need to12:04
p0windahI tried with ati, no dice12:04
NiLzwalde: and it was created in fedora core12:04
NiLzwalde: so I suspect it might have something to do with SElinux12:04
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crimsunpluffsy: for instance, under System> Preferences> Keyboard> Layout Options> Compose key position, I set the right Ctrl on my UK keyboard to be compose12:04
gwenksgalorin: what is the "SCREEN Name for?" is it my user name?12:05
crimsunpluffsy: then to make the , I hold Compose and type ', then I type e12:05
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p0windahanyone here involved with asian localisation efforts and know whether alternate input methods are on the books for ubuntu in the future ?12:05
sedatyep12:05
sedatgwenkz12:05
sedatyour nickname12:06
galoringwenks, yes it is12:06
apsyncI don't have gstreamer0.8-mad (in Synaptic) like it says on the webpage12:06
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nalioth!tell apsync about sources12:07
nooBsir i need help on installing ubuntu iso installer? why isnt it booting in my cd drive?12:07
gwenksgalorin: thank yu12:07
sedatbios12:07
sedatstartup order nooB12:07
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apsyncnalioth, in which package is it?12:08
robzonwoohoo! amarok 1.3.1 in breezy :)12:08
sedator try pressing del, f10, f12 and so on during bios spash screen12:08
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ubuntu_weeeeeeeeeeeeee12:08
sedatcI have downloaded a package named 'lale' by adding an extra repository but it couldnt manage to install it . When I try to delete extra rep I added my SPM says 'I have to reinstall lale but I couldnt find an archive for it'12:08
dazvidHow can I get ubuntu to recognise a USB webcam?12:08
nalioth!info gstreamer0.8-mad12:08
ubotugstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 136 kB12:08
crimsundazvid: plug it in12:09
dazvidI did ;)12:09
p0windahheh12:09
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ubuntu_can anyone help me how to install games here12:09
naliothsedatc: using unofficial repos is a recipe for a dead box12:09
sedatcsince I couldnt update ubuntu12:09
apsynchmmm.. universe libs12:09
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gwenksgalorin thnks12:09
naliothubuntu_: use synaptic and look in the "games" section12:09
galorinubuntu_, which games?12:09
sedatcnalioth, what can I do now12:09
galoringwenks, np12:09
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sedatcnalioth, I think the repo is trustful12:10
naliothsedatc: remove that URL from your sources.list, reload your apt and hope things aint screwed12:10
gwenksgalorin, but why is it that at always says " Disconnected"12:10
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naliothsedatc: paste your sources.list to a pastebin, please12:11
sedatcnalioth, how to reload apt12:11
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naliothsedatc: "sudo apt-get update"12:11
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sedatcnalioth, I did this12:11
naliothsedatc: and what errors did you get?12:11
sedatopera is in the multiverse repositories rite?12:11
galoringwenks, you offline, or others offline?12:12
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yonilHow do i set a remote printer (on a windows machine) - i've tried setting it, but printing doesnt work. specificaly, what should i set in the username and password fields ?12:12
naliothsedat: get opera from its homepage12:12
sedatcnalioth,  I get an error like I said above 'I have to reinstall lale but couldnt find an archive'12:12
lastnodeany reccomendations for dtp apps for ubuntu?12:12
naliothsedatc: so remove lale12:12
gwenksgalorin, no im not12:12
ompaulsedat, put the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list into http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/12:12
sedatcnalioth, When I try it says the package is in a very inconsistent state12:13
naliothlastnode: ubotu loves you12:13
waldeNiLz, thats seems to be a tricky problem. Hope this can help you: http://www.mail-archive.com/trilug@trilug.org/msg26479.html12:13
sedati did, but the installer needs a Motif thingy12:13
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galoringwenks, tools>accounts and check online and auto-login12:13
sedatgot it to install +/-12:13
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naliothsedatc: it will remove12:13
sedatit has something to do with the static thing being compiled under freebsd12:14
ompaullastnode,  scribus12:14
sedatstill no mozolla plugin support12:14
ompaulsedat, you have been asked to put the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list into http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/    <<< this should help a lot in diagnosing your problems12:15
sedat*sedatc or sedat?12:15
ompaulsedat, ahhhhh that make sense  :)12:15
nooBcan anyone help me, how can i install the ubuntu iso. into my comp after burning it. it seems not booting into my system12:16
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nooBpls help me.12:16
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sedatnooB u need to get a bios option screen12:16
p0windahnooB: have you double checked your BIOS allows booting from CD ?12:16
sedatull need screwdriver and some solder equipment12:17
naliothompaul: c'mon man, cant you tell your sedat* from your sedat* ?12:17
thoreauputicnooB: did you check your BIOS boot order as suggested?12:17
naliothompaul: ;)12:17
nooByes i did, pardon but what a bios setup screen? thanks for the help.12:17
KuolionooB: you need to make a bootable cd from .iso, not just burn that .iso on a data cd, have you done that?12:17
yonilI try changing the username/ password field in a printer settings and it wont let me .. it doesnt save the new values12:17
ompaulnalioth, na - its (A) too early  and (B) not enough coffee installed yet :), good morning to you12:18
sedatget deepburner if your on windows12:18
naliothompaul: howdy do12:18
rawlerheya! anyone knows about libavcodec, and if there is a package that fixes the problems?12:18
thoreauputicnooB: if you look at the contents of the CD do you see one file, or a whole bunch of files?12:18
lastnodewhen i do get-apt install tor, and run it12:18
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lastnode"i get acting on config options left us in a broken state. dying"12:18
apsynchi, how can I check that my sound is on mute or not?12:18
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ompaulnalioth, other than that, lots of plans (short ones) for today12:18
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naliothlastnode: we are not a tor help channel12:18
thoreauputicapsync: type alsamixer in a terminal12:19
nooByes i did, using nero. then what after booting. i cant see any saetup.exe like in windows12:19
sedatcnalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/224712:19
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nooBsetup.exe12:19
thoreauputicapsync: m to toggle mute/unmute12:19
sedatrestart12:19
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ompaulnooB, there is no exe in Linux12:19
p0windahnooB: when it reboots, it will automatically start running12:19
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lastnodenalioth: heh, sorry ill ask in #tor12:19
p0windahnooB: it is very different from what windows looks like12:19
ompaulnooB, reboot and leave the disk in there12:19
thoreauputicnooB: you might have just dumped the .iso on the disk instead of burning it as an image12:20
gwenksYAHOOOOOO ....................... Thank you so much Galorin12:20
gwenksone more thing galorin12:20
nooBhow will i burn it as an image thoreauputic????? thanks12:20
ompaulnooB have you rebooted since you burnt the disk?12:20
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waldenooB, you know, that you cant easily install linux into a running window-filesystem? You need extra partitions for that.12:20
naliothsedatc: are you familiar with compiling?12:21
benukhey12:21
nooByes. then it booted like DOS ompaul12:21
thoreauputicnooB: I'm not familiar with windows burning apps, but you need to burn it as an image12:21
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lastnodethere is no man entry for "talk" or "ktalk"12:21
sedattry DeepBurner.com12:21
lastnodecan i apt get these12:21
lastnode?12:21
sedatcan't go wrong there12:21
benukwhen i try to install breezy, it trys to load etc/hotplug/usb.rc and hangs12:21
benukanyone know why?12:21
p0windahit doesnt like one of your devices ?12:22
gwenksmaybe NERO could be more efficient12:22
ari_where in the wiki are breezy post-update commands?12:22
naliothbenuk: have you md5d your iso image/ burnt disc?12:22
thoreauputicnooB: if when you look at the disk in windows, you see only one file, then you burnt it the wrong way12:22
naliothari_: breezy post update commands are none12:22
sedathttp://www.deepburner.com/pr.php?image=images/screen1.gif burn iso option12:22
VoXhow do i get a specific ubuntu 32-bit lib?12:22
benuknalioth: yep12:22
naliothari_: your breezy will let you know when it need updating12:22
ompaulnooB, then what happened?12:23
ari_ok, thanks12:23
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naliothbenuk: and they check out?12:23
ompaulnooB, that is the start of the install12:23
benukyeah12:23
pwlogin  ?12:23
naliothbenuk: other than burning the cd at a slower speed, the only other thing i can offer is: is the hardwar functional?12:23
VoXhow do i get ubuntu to install a 32-bit lib that i need on an amd64 system?12:24
benukwindows works12:24
nooBthats it it just stayed on a:\ like in DOS12:24
benukon it atm12:24
ompaulit stayed on A:\ emm that is not ubuntu12:24
VoXanyone?12:24
thoreauputicVoX: you will need a chroot to use 32 bit stuff on amd64, if you are using the amd64 Ubuntu12:24
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lastnodelots of packages want libcap0.712:25
VoXthoreauputic: yeah, but how do i get the 32-bit package?12:25
naliothVoX: or you use apt to compile the lib for your box (preferred method)12:25
lastnodebut it cant find it on universe12:25
lastnodesuggestions?12:25
naliothlastnode: enable all your repos12:25
lastnodethat's in /etc/apt ?12:25
ompaul!tell lastnode about repos12:25
nooBits in winrar format 1st then i unzipped it then i burned it. its that the proper way to burn an iso isaw many files.12:26
ompaullastnode, you can use synaptic to do some of the work like I just had the bot tell you12:26
naliothnooB: no dont unrar it b4 you burn it12:26
naliothnooB: just burn the .iso file as is. dont open it up12:26
MarcNdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in breezy dies with "start_configlet: configlet in path /usr/share/configlets/aptconf is bad"12:27
nooBi will burn the winrar form ????? thanks.12:27
MarcNanyone see that before?  /me has no X12:27
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!christel:*! : Best wishes from all of us to JamesOff on his wedding day!12:27
lastnodeompaul: thanks, im actually just playing around with get-apt :)12:27
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IngoNeMcc12:27
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ompaulnooB, you burn ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso12:28
VoXhow do i get apt to only download the 32-bit package, not the 64-bit one?12:28
CrTrHow could I install .rpm ?12:28
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CrTrfile.rpm12:28
ompaulCrTr, that is not the way to do stuff - which application do you want to install?12:28
thoreauputicCrTr: in general, don't12:28
ompaulCrTr, prolly available already for ubuntu12:28
CrTrCedega-20050607-cvs rpm12:29
ompaulCrTr, hmm u would pick that12:30
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CrTr?12:30
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thorstenmoin12:30
waldemoin moin12:30
nalioththorsten: grsstig12:31
thorstenich hab ein wlan problem, kennt sich da jemand aus?12:31
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waldethorsten, you are in an englishspeaking channel. switch to #ubuntu.de12:31
ompaulCrTr, have a look at this - rpm is redhat packet manager and advanced packet manager are different  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-9473.html12:31
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Trackilizerart, are you in here dude?12:32
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thorstensory12:32
TrackilizerI need you're help.12:32
CrTrompaul 10q12:32
TrackilizerI need you to do something for me please.12:32
naliothwalde: not very polite12:32
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{cYanide}hey, er how can i remove a dir via the root terminal and all folders/files inside it? rmdir isnt working12:32
TrackilizerAre you in here art?12:32
TrackilizerDude! i do really need your help.12:33
thoreauputic{cYanide}: rm -r12:33
waldenalioth, I can excuse myself in the german-speaking channel. i am just eating, drinking coffee and telephoning. hmmm, yes, it wasnt very polite. But that wasnt my intention.12:33
lastnodeafter i get a gui tool via get-apt, how do i add it to my applications menu?12:33
nooByes i burn ubunt-5.04-install-i386.iso so what will i do next? thanks12:33
brenner{cYanide}: be very careful. :)12:33
lsuactiafnernooB : insert the cd, reboot the machine12:33
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naliothlastnode: it should show up immediately, if not, it will after you restart your panel12:33
waldenalioth, unfortunately he doesnt join the german channel .he quits ....12:33
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lsuactiafnernooB : if the install process doesnt start, then change the bootup order to cdrom fist in the bios12:34
naliothwalde: unfortunately12:34
robotgeek{cYanide}: rm -rf <dir> BEWARE!12:34
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brennerlastnode: if it doesn't add itself, you can use smeg12:34
nooBi change that up, i am still burning the cd. there is no exe in linux is it?12:34
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thoreauputic{cYanide}: as robotgeek says, be careful if you use the -f switch12:35
lsuactiafnernooB : no, no exe file12:35
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lsuactiafnernooB : but the process starts itself up12:35
naliothnooB: not like you think, no12:35
lsuactiafnerits easier to install then windows12:35
{cYanide}its ok now i removed it,  i was trying to setup the wine cvs, but i accidently started setting it up as root and it didnt like that, so im just redoing it as standard12:35
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nooBi made a data bootable image by using nero is that the correct way to burn it?12:36
lastnodebrenner: syntax?12:36
brennerlsuactiafner: what about the partitioning stuff? :D can be a bit confusing for newbies12:36
lsuactiafnernooB : no idea, but it sounds correct.12:36
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waldethorsten, sorry, I dont wanted to be unpolite :-) It was just a hint to use the german channel :-)12:36
vrlnI just switched to ubuntu yesturday - I'm trying to compile a new (ck) kernel for it. What I want to do is use the exact same config as ubuntu uses - this is all ok so far. My problem is the initrd. How can I create an identical initrd like the distribution itself uses? What does the initrd actually contain? (in other words, if it just has the filesystem module, perhaps I could just add the filesystem to my kernel and then I wouldn't need12:36
vrln an initrd at all?)12:36
thoreauputicnooB: no - you need to choose the image option12:36
{cYanide}noob if you just burn the disc image and burn it, it will be fine12:36
{cYanide}er i mean12:36
lsuactiafnerbrenner : you think windows xp install is more difficult?12:36
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{cYanide}lol select the disc image12:36
lsuactiafnertook me 2 tries to get XP running12:36
brennerlsuactiafner: no.12:36
thoreauputicnooB: you want an exact clone of the iso image in other words12:37
lsuactiafnerbrenner : meant to say XP *is* more difficult to install.12:37
nooBeven if its in winrar form? cyanide?12:37
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{cYanide}winrar opens iso files12:37
brennerlastnode: ?12:37
Whistleris it possible to install Dillo using apt-get?12:37
thenukeWhistler: sure12:37
lsuactiafnerwho read dildo?12:37
naliothnooB: yes even tho it looks like a rar, as long as it has .iso at the end12:37
{cYanide}just open nero, and there should be an option to open the iso in the file menu12:37
naliothWhistler: yes it is12:37
thoreauputicnooB: it *isn't* winrar - it's an ISO - the file association with winrar is silly12:37
{cYanide}then just burn12:38
thoreauputicnooB: I mean not you - the program association12:38
lsuactiafneri need to go shower..12:38
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lsuactiafnerbbl12:38
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brennerlsuactiafner: that's interesting...to be honest, i can't see how you can go wrong. :-/12:38
thoreauputicWhistler: probably in the universe repo (haven't checked)12:39
nalioth!info dillo12:39
ubotudillo: (GTK-based web browser), section universe/web, is extra. Version: 0.8.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 267 kB, Installed size: 688 kB12:39
Whistlerthoreauputic i found it allready thx12:39
thoreauputicWhistler: cool :)12:39
waldenooB, http://www.petri.co.il/how_to_write_iso_files_to_cd.htm12:39
vrlnanyone?12:40
brennerwow, that's really small...12:40
lyndonhow can i copy a file in other network computer ?12:40
naliothvrln: that is not productive. ask your question again. "anyone" doesnt help anything12:40
brennerdillo, that is.12:40
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vrlnnalioth: I asked the question already - scroll up :) didn't want to repeat12:40
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thoreauputicbrenner: it's blindingly quick too - but limited12:41
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vrlnin a nutshell, what does the ubuntu initrd contain12:41
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naliothvrln: repeating is optimal, as long as you dont repeat too often12:41
thoreauputicbrenner: no javascript. frames, https etc12:41
Whistleremm where is the run button in breezy?12:41
naliothWhistler: run button?12:41
sedatterminal12:41
deFryskWhistler, alt-f212:41
vrlnand if you use the default config, I assume it will require an initrd :) what I'm trying to achieve is a standard ubuntu kernel with the ck patch12:42
brennernalioth, thoreauputic: guess there had to be a downside. :)12:42
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WhistlerdeFrysk thx12:42
deFryskWhistler, you can ala add it seperatly to you pannel12:42
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onkarshindewhich program can be used to save dvd to hard disk? Can I save it in multiple files?12:42
naliothjdef: the man with the plan12:43
{cYanide}erm is there a way to install the latest gnome?12:43
naliothonkarshinde: dvdrip12:43
WhistlerdeFrysk how do i add it?12:43
thoreauputic{cYanide}: install Breezy I guess :)12:43
nalioth{cYanide}: install breezy12:43
deFryskWhistler, rightklick panel >add .choose run12:43
onkarshindenalioth: Have you used it?12:43
naliothonkarshinde: not personally no12:44
naliothonkarshinde: i use one of my other macs to rip dvds (for backup purposes)12:44
WhistlerdeFrysk Oh thx :)12:44
deFryskadd to panel that is you can even drag and drop it in12:44
brenneronkarshinde: i've heard good things12:44
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Whistlerhow do i mount iso files?12:44
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onkarshindebrenner: I didn't get what you mean.12:45
brenneronkarshinde: i've heard good things about dvdrip12:45
thoreauputicWhistler: mount -o loop foo.iso /mount/point12:45
kemikWhistler:  "sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop isofile.iso /mountpoint/12:45
Whistlerthx12:45
Whistler:)12:45
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onkarshindebrenner: Ok. But it has a lot of dependencies. And I am currently on dial-up. So probably won;t install it.12:46
samu2Ok, now some process has locked up my soundcard so I can't play stuff in rhythmbox. What process should i kill?12:46
mirakhi there is a broken package in breezy, is that know problem ?12:46
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onkarshindemirak: which one?12:47
mirak valgrind-callgrind: Conflicts: valgrind (> 1:2.6)12:47
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mirakreadahead-list: Conflicts: readahead mais 1:0.20050328.0142-0ubuntu4 doit tre install12:47
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onkarshindemirak: Is it a package from universe?12:48
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mirakonkarshinde: don't know12:49
brennersamu2: try esd12:49
mirakonkarshinde: yes12:49
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samu2no esd processes listed by grep -A12:50
mirakonkarshinde: I remove them12:51
_anti-net_Hi, i want to setup a mail server (pop3) on my ubuntu box, any suggestions on what software i should use?12:51
mirak_anti-net_: you should install an imap server12:52
samu2How can I found out what process is locking up the sound card?12:52
mirak_anti-net_: courierimap plus squirelmail12:52
holycowanyone here run mythtv on ubuntu?12:52
miraksquirrelmail12:52
mirakholycow: me12:52
topyli_anti-net_: dovecot maybe. it's easy to set up and supports pop and imap12:52
_anti-net_thanks mirak12:52
holycowmirak, you use hauppage cards?12:53
mirakholycow: it's a nice programm but not easy to setup12:53
sleptsamu2, lsof |grep dsp12:53
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mirakholycow: #mythtv-users12:53
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holycowmirak, i'm getting some really weird issues, was wondering if i can compare notes12:53
holycowthat channel is useless for any serious debugging12:53
holycowyou can't possibly suggest that?12:53
mirakholycow: what ?12:54
miraktry #mythtv then12:54
holycowwhat do you mean what?12:54
holycowdude stop giving me useless information12:54
samu2slept, nothing came up12:54
lastnodehow do I add an application to the gnome app panel?12:54
lastnodei was told to use smeg12:54
holycowi just wanted to ask if you are using hoary and hauppage cards, thats it12:54
lastnodebut there is no man entry on it12:54
holycowand kernel12:54
CrTrhow to install ati drivers 4 ubuntu ?12:55
holycowoh and ivtv driver version12:55
sleptsamu2, how do you know its locked and not muted ?12:55
brenner!smeg12:55
ubotufrom memory, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.12:55
mirakholycow: I am not going to help you12:55
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brenner!ati12:55
ubotuwell, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx12:55
holycowfine, then shutup12:55
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holycowjesus, why say anything at all12:55
pinucsetwhen the ubuntu stable release? :(12:55
holycowgoddamned retartds everywhere12:55
lastnodethanks brenner12:55
mirakholycow: continue to be unpolite like that and you will never get help12:55
holycowlol then go fuck your self, you had no intention in the first place12:56
brennerlastnode: np12:56
holycowexcept to play channel chairs12:56
samu2slept, rhythm box "Cannot open resource for writing"12:56
naliothholycow: pleaee12:56
lastnodebrenner: synaptic should have that right?12:56
ubuntulnxhello! can someone explain howto enable acpi on bootup (as kernel parameter)?12:56
sleptsamu2, killall esd ?12:56
brennerlastnode: if you enable backports, yes12:56
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mirakholycow: va sucer des bites12:57
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lastnodebrenner: backports?12:57
lastnode!backports12:57
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports12:57
samu2slept, oh it maybe that it expects esd to run but i killed it to run other media players...?12:57
lastnode:)12:57
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brennerubuntulnx: should be enabled by default :-/12:57
brennerlastnode: that's the way. :)12:57
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brennersaves me typing it12:57
samu2Yeah that did it.12:57
naliothmirak: be civil12:57
samu2So this is an awesome system!12:57
miraknalioth: be fair12:57
miraknalioth: sorry I won't do that anymore12:57
naliothmirak: fair? suck my dick is fair?12:58
naliothmirak: you are lucky to be back in here12:58
miraknalioth: you let him say "go fuck yourself"12:58
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miraknalioth: that's what I meabn by fair12:58
ubuntulnxbrenner, im looking for cpu temperature in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone, but there is nothing there..12:58
mirakor unfair12:58
samu2I have to manually start esd to use rhythm box then kill the process to use other players in between...12:58
lastnode!backport12:58
ubotuwell, backport is see !backports12:58
lastnodesorry lost the uri12:58
lastnode!backports12:58
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports12:58
dskloetHi, is anyone here using Breezy? Should it currently work?12:59
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brennerlastnode: /msg ubotu <trigger> in future to avoid flooding :)12:59
lastnode!backports12:59
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports12:59
lastnodethanks brenner, sorry12:59
onkarshindewhat is apm exactly? And how to unable it?12:59
{cYanide}oh one last thing,  er is there a way i can create a swap partition from within ubuntu12:59
brennerlol12:59
miraknalioth: how do you know what it means by the way. You shouldn't ^^01:00
ompaulholycow, it is with regret that all I can offer you is http://tinyurl.com/7v2vv01:00
lastnodebrenner: ubotu is not telling me anything :)01:00
vrlnhow to ubuntus bootup scripts handle kernels that have everything compiled inside?01:00
{cYanide}or is swap a bad idea? ive been foruming and some say its good and some its bad,01:00
{cYanide}but it seems wine needs a swap to run some things01:00
brennerlastnode: what don't you get?01:00
vrlnie, will I have problems if I use a non-modular kernel01:00
slept onkarshinde  man apm01:00
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brennerlastnode: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list01:00
lastnodeits not giving me that data01:00
holycowompaul, that is okay, you helped a great deal in the other channel :) at this point i'm mostly trying to compare hardware and software specs01:00
holycowompaul, and my thanks :)01:01
lastnodebrenner: i cant copy the string the channel scrolls too fast01:01
lastnodeim slow on this trackpad01:01
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lastnodeand ubotu wont give me anything when i /msg him :)01:01
mirakholycow: chances are that your card is not supported yet, the chips have changed01:01
brennerlastnode: are you identified?01:01
sleptonkarshinde, you dont want to unable it  unless you like pushing the powerbutton after shuting down01:01
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naliothbrenner: he is not01:01
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dskloetnobody using breezy?01:02
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mirakholycow: use windows01:02
miraklol01:02
lastnodebrenner: of course01:02
ompaul{cYanide}, the reson people may not be answering is your use of braces, swap is always a good thing - has saved many a box in trouble - how much ram have you got01:02
[Wiebel] dskloet: yes01:02
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dskloetwiebel: should it currently work?01:02
[Wiebel] it does for me :)01:02
brennernalioth: haha </nelson>01:02
dskloetmy X broke :(01:02
[Wiebel] i konw01:02
[Wiebel] read the error message01:03
{cYanide}i have 512 megs of ram, its just i tried running sacrifice via wine and it told me a warning about virtual memory and swap,01:03
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[LethAL] My gnome broke01:03
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onkarshindeOne more question. How do i know if my video card supports any type of video acceleration?01:03
vrlndskloet: I am01:03
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{cYanide}seeing as its an old game and runs fine on windows, i think it must be todo with swap space and not my actual ram01:03
onkarshindeAnd how do i enable it?01:03
lsuactiafnerompaul : i agree, even with 1G ram i never use swap but it kept my system stable under extreme loads to have a swap, used 600mb of it once01:03
[LethAL] onkarshinde: try running glxgears01:03
brennerlastnode: i've pm'ed the output01:03
brennerto you01:03
dskloetWiebel:I got X working by changing the font paths in xorg.conf but now it hangs while loading gnome...01:03
[Wiebel] dskloet: use         Driver      "kbd"01:03
[Wiebel] for your keyboard01:04
onkarshinde[LethAL] : It runs01:04
[Wiebel] ow01:04
naliothbrenner: you cant send PMs either, you aren't identified01:04
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[LethAL] onkarshinde: Is it very fast though?01:04
[Wiebel] that's odd01:04
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naliothno unidentified user may PM anyone else on freenode at this time01:04
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[Wiebel] only thing i had to change was the keyboard driver01:04
brennernalioth: yeah...just found out....01:04
onkarshinde[LethAL] : Quite. But I ahven't run it before. There fore fast is relative term01:04
ompaul{cYanide}, I asked a specific qustion for a reason, you saw no reason to answer the question, I did not do that for fun, call me strange for asking questions that may lead to me being able to help you but thats just me, ask anyone who has seen me do this before :)01:04
slywanting lil help :) ( as useual ) , say ive got a file in ~/Stuff/File      how would i make it so in terminal when ever i type file it runs ~/Stuff/File01:04
sly?01:04
dskloetwiebel: is the keyboard causing the problem?01:04
[LethAL] onkarshinde: I mean... way too fast... run in in the terminal and read the fps, should be able 200 FPS01:04
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brennernalioth: so you didn't get my reply to your pm? :)01:05
{cYanide}sorry?01:05
[Wiebel] dskloet: i don't know on you're X01:05
{cYanide}i answered01:05
{cYanide}51201:05
[Wiebel] dskloet: but it was on mine01:05
naliothbrenner: not while you were unknown, no01:05
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ompaul{cYanide}, you did not preface it with my nick so I did not see it :)01:05
onkarshinde[LethAL] : It is normally 3000 FPS01:05
{cYanide}ahh01:05
ompaul{cYanide}, 1G of swap to you01:05
dskloetwiebel: did you have problems with gnome or only with X?01:05
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[Wiebel] dskloet: no issues with gnome01:05
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[LethAL] onkarshinde: Something insane, yeah01:06
[Wiebel] dskloet: try a clean user01:06
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onkarshinde[LethAL] : What does that mean?01:06
{cYanide}ompaul, 1g, ok will i be able to make it via a root terminal or will i have todo it some other way?01:06
dskloetwiebel: like adduser test?01:06
[Wiebel] yeah01:06
ompaul{cYanide}, have you any spare disk space?01:06
[LethAL] onkarshinde: Most likely yes01:06
{cYanide}ompaul, aye like 20 gig on this partition01:07
onkarshinde[LethAL] : Ok thanks.01:07
brennernalioth: probably for the better, my joke wasn't funny. :)01:07
ompaul{cYanide} not in use01:07
dskloetwiebel: I could also try another wm but I don't know which. I'd like icewm but it's not in the repository yet.01:07
{cYanide}ompaul, im not "using" it as such, but it is part of this linux partition01:07
[LethAL] !tell me about upgrade2breezy01:07
[Wiebel] dskloet: first try another user01:08
[Wiebel] if that doesnt work , try another wm01:08
dskloetwiebel: I'll do, brb01:08
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ompaul{cYanide}, it needs to be empty01:09
ompaul{cYanide}, not part of any system01:09
ompaul{cYanide}, for optimal performance01:09
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dskloetwiebel: tried the clean user, all the same. Gnome seems to hang on the third icon of the splash screen (Nautilus). But I can use the right mouseb button to create a folder and some other useless stuff.01:12
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dskloetIs there a simpel wm I could use instead of gnome? (in the breezy repository)01:13
[Wiebel] kde :)01:13
alessiosorry01:13
[Wiebel] windowmaker01:13
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naliothdskloet: enlightenment, xfce4, fluxbox, and many more01:13
dskloetI tried apt-get install windowmaker but the package was unknown...01:14
alessioi have risize 20gb of windows with hoary partition tool01:14
[Wiebel] but gnome should work01:14
[Wiebel] works fine here01:14
alessioto 10 gb for win + 10gb for ubuntu01:14
alessiogrub does'nt load windows01:14
alessiontldr missing01:14
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ompaul{cYanide},  resizing is supposed to be possible, however you may loose all your data - if you have only installed I would suggest a reinstall with 1G for swap 10G for home and 9G for / tell the partition manager about theim in the order / swap /home01:14
ompaul{cYanide}, sorry I have no better ideas on that one01:15
dskloetGnome doesn't work here :(. But anything that works is good for now...01:15
{cYanide}ompaul, ya oh well. i think i will leave it, seeing as it only seems to effect wine and i dont use that much01:15
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ompaul{cYanide}, how long is the machine installed?01:15
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ompaul{cYanide}, you can add ram without reconfiguring that is one thing :)01:16
nanotechi'm trying to upgrade to Breezy, i have a problem with xorg complaining about 'fixed' fonts. Do you have an idea on what i must have forgotten to install/update ?01:16
alessioany idea01:16
xukunis there some kind of guide for installing multimedia on Breezy01:16
[Wiebel] nanotech: try pasting the error01:16
ompaul!tell xukun about restricted01:16
ompaul!tell xukun about repos01:16
naliothnanotech: in a pastebin01:16
alessiontldr missing ... what can i do?01:16
Kuolioxukun: use the hoary guide and ubuntu wiki01:16
naliothalessio: go get one from a friend01:17
{cYanide}ompaul, its actually the gfs machine some dell 2400 , its not the uber beast im usedtoo, but i moved so it has todo till i get a new01:17
dskloetnalioth: apt can't find any of the wm's you named :(01:17
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ompaulxukun, read the messages from ubotu they will help01:17
nanotechnalioth: i can't because X is running without fonts (only firefox seems to work)01:17
alessionalioth, i'm inside sheet :(01:17
xukunthanks ompaul , Kuolio01:18
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dskloetnonatech: I could solve that problem by changing the fontpaths in xorg.conf01:18
alessiowhy does'nt grub load windows?01:18
dskloetnanotech: from /usr/lib/* to /usr/share/*01:18
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dskloetnanotech: but now I'm stuck with a not working gnome...01:18
naliothnanotech: are you familiar with the terminal?01:18
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nanotechnalioth: yes01:19
nanotechdskloet: trying to cp them01:19
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wingman920help me plz. just installed ubuntu and it stopped at 6% Retrieving Bsdutils....ive burned the dowmloaded iso image twice at 8x speed.01:19
brenneralessio: more info needed01:19
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brenneralessio: ie any errors?01:19
naliothnanotech: do a apt-cache seach fonts and install the xfonts-blah01:19
wingman920help me plz. just installed ubuntu and it stopped at 6% Retrieving Bsdutils....ive burned the dowmloaded iso image twice at 8x speed.01:20
alessioany error..01:20
alessioonly ntldr01:20
lsuactiafnerwingman920 : iso might be currupted01:20
dskloetnanotech: cp what? you can edit the file01:20
nanotechnalioth: i did, only xfonts-*-transcoded couldn't be installed01:20
ompaulwingman920, breezy / hoary and don't repeat your telling over 400 people the same thing in seconds not good01:20
alessioafter risize with hoarty tool01:20
lsuactiafnerand wingman920 : wait 20 minutes before repeating your questions01:20
nanotechdskloet: it's already updated01:20
alessioan installation on secon partition01:20
naliothnanotech: oh my. did you say 'breezy'?01:20
wingman920whats the best site for the good iso download01:20
nanotechnalioth: i did01:20
dskloetnanotech: and still the font is missing?01:20
naliothnanotech: wait for the next update01:20
nanotechdskloet: yes01:21
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naliothnanotech: the xorg has been undergoing major bug fixes lately01:21
lsuactiafnerwingman920 : any site on the ubuntu mirror list, your transfer might have been currupted for various reasons01:21
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nanotechnalioth: alright, i hope it will be soon :)01:21
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dskloetSo is there any working wm in the breezy repository?01:21
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[Wiebel] dskloet: kde01:21
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sauliwhere i can find ubuntu boot floppies?01:21
ompauldskloet, lots which one do you want to try - and have you got the repos installed?01:22
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[Wiebel] windowmaker01:22
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[Wiebel] etc01:22
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ompauldskloet, come to think of it which video card have you got?01:22
naliothsauli: there are none01:22
dskloetwiebel: it says package unknown on those...01:22
mdkeany ideas how I can turn my bluetooth radio off?01:22
[Wiebel] dskloet: not for me01:22
dskloetompaul: asus riva tnt01:22
[Wiebel] i have them all01:22
[Wiebel] use multiverse01:22
saulinalioth: oh really? i have weird problem in my new computer, it can boot live cd but not ubuntu install cd01:22
nanotechwell thx all for your help, i need to go now and i'll try to fix it myself waiting for the update01:22
ompauldskloet, can you put the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list into http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:23
naliothsauli: check the md5 of your burnt disk and your iso image you used to burn it01:23
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dskloetompaul: I don't understand. (but I think I forget to add multiverse indeed)01:23
saulii tried many cds and they are official cds01:23
brownie17why doesn't totem play dvd's?01:23
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dskloetwhat is paste.ubuntulinux.nl?01:24
brenner!dvd01:24
ubotuDVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras01:24
brownie17dskloet, you paste stuff in there and give hte people in here the link01:24
mdkedskloet, it is a website which allows you to paste long outputs and show them to others01:24
naliothdskloet: where you can paste things and not disrupt the channel01:24
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ompauldskloet, a place where you can paste lots of data so others can view it01:24
naliothsauli: some of the official cds werent burnt properly01:24
ugodskloet: paste.ubuntu.com01:24
naliothsauli: or pressed properly01:24
dskloetI see, but you need a mouse working to paste right?01:25
brennergeeze...four replies, all saying the same thing. :D01:25
mdkeugo, ?01:25
sauliok, then i just have to try with olla my cds :/01:25
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ugodskloet: ctrl-x cut ctrl-v paste01:25
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saulibut thank you nalioth01:25
mdkeugo, there is no such url01:25
dskloetugo: and selecting without a mouse?01:25
naliothsauli: np01:25
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ugodskloet: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/01:26
naliothsauli: there is a self test in the 'advanced options' of the installer01:26
dskloetugo: I think I can manage in vim... thanks anyway01:26
ugodskloet: sorri!01:26
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reikicrimsun awake?01:26
ompauldskloet, tell you what dcc it to me01:26
xukunisn't there also breezy-extra repository, or should I Just use the hoary-extra repostitory?01:26
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naliothreiki: havent seen crimsun in a while01:26
reikiokies... thanks01:26
mdkehe is here01:26
reikiI just got up01:26
naliothxukun: breezy wont have an extra repos until after its release01:26
CryptidWhat is metacity, GTK 2.x, And GMD Themes01:27
ompaulnalioth, he was here yesterday01:27
ugoyeah....crismun ditched me in the middle of our openafs debugging jam session01:27
xukunI see01:27
dskloetompaul: dcc? You know, I'm going to add multiverse and then return here...01:27
naliothompaul: reiki seeks him now01:27
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brennerhe was in here earlier01:27
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ugowhy u....?!!!?01:27
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ompauldskloet, and after that apt-get udpate01:27
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dskloetompaul: of course ;)01:27
reikiI just wanted to thank him for helping me get my mic working on my turtle beach santa cruz card. That was like.... one last hurdle thing01:27
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dskloetompaul: but thanks for reminding :)01:27
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naliothreiki: /msg him, he'll getit01:28
charish17hello ... im new here ... can ask some help?01:28
naliothcharish17: ask away01:28
ompaul!tell charish17 about as01:28
ompaul!tell charish17 about ask01:28
ubuntulnxbrenner, im looking for cpu temperature in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone, but there is nothing there..01:28
ompaulnalioth, pm?01:28
ugo!tell ugo about ask01:28
ugook...smart question01:29
brennerubuntulnx: yeah, i have no clue about temperature monitoring, sorry.....searched the forum?01:29
ubuntulnxyep01:29
ugoi had this problem compiling the openafs kernel module yesterday01:30
brownie17can somebody help me, i cannot find libdvdcss in synaptic, how do i open the hoary extra repos, i thought i had allready. will someone tell me if i have?01:30
ubuntulnxyep brenner, found lots of stuff re. laptop users, but nothing that i see serves sofar01:30
ugoon hoary...apparently its been bug listed already....01:30
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nalioth!tell brownie17 about repos01:30
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ugothe bug lister mentioned that he's running a release candidate that functions properly on his system....01:30
reikicool... now to find a fchromatic instrument tuner for linux and I should be all set :)01:31
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reiki"chromatic"01:31
charish17just installed ubuntu ...01:31
ubuntulnxbrenner, do you know how the dsdt file is generated?01:31
naliothreiki: ask in #kubuntu about the tuner01:31
charish17is it gui? or command line01:31
naliothcharish17: you should see a nice gui01:31
reikinalioth: there's a tuner well known?  okies... thanks01:31
charish17im also new to linux01:31
[Wiebel] anyone seen firefox 1.0.7 packages for ubuntu?01:31
dskloetompaul: I did something wrong, adding multiverse is just copying the two lines and changing main to multiverse, right?01:31
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ugoapparently its debian and not ubuntu....my question now is can i run a debian package on ubuntu like afs which is somewhat kernel tied and not run into problems....01:32
charish17hmmm01:32
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brennerubuntulnx: seeing as how i don't know what that file is...probably not01:32
charish17i ended up in a command line01:32
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naliothugo: it is not advised to use debian pkgs on ubuntu01:32
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ompauldskloet, I just add the word to the end of the line, but thats me :)01:32
naliothcharish17: at the console, type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" if you want the gui01:32
dskloetompaul: after restricted?01:32
ubuntulnxbrenner, ok.. its the file that seems to describe the systems hardware to acpi01:32
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ompauldskloet, you got it01:32
charish17ok i'll try it01:33
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ompaulugo, better to build from source if it is not available natively on Ubuntu01:33
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dskloetompaul: on the existing lines or a copies of them?01:33
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ompauldskloet, both the same - I do it all on the one line01:33
mirakis there a way to not have kde applicatios showing in the gnome menu ?01:33
ugoompaul: riiiighhtt...now what didn't i think of that01:34
ompauldskloet, I am going to get the bot to send you info01:34
ompaulugo, no idea01:34
ompaul!tell dskloet about repos01:34
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ompauldskloet, /msg ubotu restricted also given you are there01:34
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dreameenhey folks01:35
dreameentell me01:35
dreameenwhy ubuntu doesnt recognize my ipod?01:35
dskloetompaul, there's now a magenta 3 on my screen... (i'm new to irc)01:35
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hnjhi there01:35
cafuego_dreameen: Is it mac formatted? is it set to automount in the prefs, did you initialised it with gtkpod?01:36
dskloetompaul: I'd like to paste my source.list but I don't think I have a copy/paste buffer without X...01:36
naliothdskloet: hit ctrl-301:36
dreameencafuego, mac formatted? set to automount?01:36
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ugoompaul: its prolly because im brain fuzzed from this operating systems assignment01:36
naliothdskloet: ctrl-2 to return here01:36
ugoompaul: thanks though....ill work on it right away01:37
dreameencafuego, the problem is, i cant see appropriate mountpoint for it in /dev01:37
reikinalioth: thanks for that lead on the tuners... appreciated01:37
dskloetompaul: ok, I found the info you sent me through the bot, thank, I'll have a look.01:37
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naliothreiki: i'm here to help (even if i have no clue what you're talking about)01:37
reikiheheh01:38
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dskloetnalioth, thanks01:38
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naliothdskloet: np01:38
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dskloetnalioth, it was alt instead of ctrl by the way01:38
brownie17can anybody help me, when i watch dvd's they always go out of sync. how can i set my system to use the ALSA sound system instead of ESD? or is that not the problem?01:38
naliothdskloet: i run a mac, i just guessed01:38
dskloetnalioth, :)01:38
naliothbrownie17: you set your dma?01:38
ompaulugo, what is the operating systems assignment?01:39
brownie17nalioth: yes, DMA is activated on all drives01:39
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naliothbrownie17: then we're out of my field01:40
brownie17nalioth: what do you know about ESD and ALSA?01:40
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brownie17nalioth, and what is GTK+?01:40
cafuego_brownie17: The widget set for Gnome. (Buttons, windows, sliders, everything)01:41
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dskloetuniverse if also nice...01:41
dskloetis01:41
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naliothbrownie17: gtk+ is a widget set (a programming package that tells the programs how to appear)01:41
Krnekihay i have problem01:41
Krnekii install apache01:41
naliothbrownie17: i know nothing about sound01:41
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Krnekiand now i can't remove itt01:41
Krnekiit wrotes that something is currupted01:41
brownie17cafuego_, what do you know about the ESD and ALSA?01:41
Krnekii can' install or reinstall or remove anything01:42
Krnekican't01:42
dskloetnow installing icewm, finally :)01:42
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cafuego_brownie17: I know esd is a sound server and alsa a driver set.01:42
ompaulbrownie17, if you use firefox and put this in the little box on the top right of the browser beside the magnifing glass >> define gtk+<< you will get lots of good info01:42
Krnekii think it is somekind of a bug01:42
Krnekiplease help01:42
brownie17cafuego_, i beleive there is a way you can set esd to noly run when it is needed?01:42
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lastnodeis switching between gnome and kde easy?01:42
brownie17ompaul, THANX01:43
lastnode !backorders01:43
ubotulastnode: Not a clue01:43
ugoompaul: game that executes in kernel mode01:43
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lastnode!backorders01:43
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ugoompaul: minesweeper01:43
alienacioner irc.tin.it01:43
dreameenthat simply sux, ubuntu doesnt recognize my ipod!!01:43
naliothlastnode: yes it is01:43
keikozdreameen life's hard01:43
dskloetquestion: I gnome hang and the only way out I saw was ctrl-alt-backspace, but that also killed X. Was there another way which would just bring me back to gdm?01:43
naliothdreameen: it will, but nobody in here knows how to help you now01:43
brownie17!ESD01:43
ubotumethinks esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.01:43
lastnodenalioth: think i might download it. how do you switch though? with synaptic?01:43
brownie17!ALSA01:43
ubotuI heard alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3206301:43
lyndoncould some one help me on how to access my computer into another computer ?01:43
ugoompaul: id like the afs because i could mount my filespace directly on my laptop01:44
naliothlastnode: at your login screen. click 'sessions'01:44
ompaulugo, that I did not follow at all01:44
naliothlyndon: install "openssh-server"01:44
brennerdskloet: wait a while and gdm should reload iirc01:44
dskloetbrenner, but it was still trying to load gnome, but it hang...01:44
lyndonwhere  can i find openssh-server ?01:45
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ompaulbrownie17, you could also do /msg ubotu alsa and it would message you back thus meaning that people whould not have had so much happening which can be real hard for new users who are trying to follow a conversation01:45
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Sith_Tuxafternoon people01:45
[Wiebel] anyone any idea in what file firefox stores passwords?01:45
ompaullyndon, dropbear is the one i use01:45
brennerdskloet: it hangs everytime gnome loads?01:45
ugoompaul: the operating systems assignment is a game that executes in kernel mode01:45
dskloetbrenner, yes01:45
lyndonhow to install ?01:45
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Krnekihay how to fix currupted packegaes01:45
nalioth!tell lyndon about synaptic01:46
brennerdskloet: usually a driver issue...01:46
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ugoompaul: were supposed to use it to test two interrupt handlers we wrote as well as a console driver01:46
dskloetbrenner, not really, I can use my right mouse button...01:46
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ompaulugo, okay, however games in kernel space is just a bad idea :)01:46
david_i have a problem with updating firefox01:46
david_can anybody help me01:46
dskloetbrenner, but the splash screen stays and I can't really do anything01:46
Sith_Tuxi keep getting a on screen display: display changed: lcd off ....... what is the problem?01:46
ORiON2012[Wiebel] : I think it stores them hashed in ~/.mozilla/firefox/[profile] /signons.txt01:46
ompaulugo, but for an assignment wellllll maybe01:46
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naliothdavid_: ask a logical question, please01:46
ugoompaul: come on we all know that...the objective of the assignment is to test the drivers thoroughly....were going to depend on them on a more realistic assignment...01:47
dskloetBut I just wondered whether there's something like ctrl-alt-backspace which brings me back to gdm istead of killing X.01:47
david_ubuntu wont let me replace the files in the firefox folder01:47
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naliothdavid_: you should update firefox using apt-get01:48
dskloetbrenner, And is startx the way to go back to X and gdm?01:48
david_ok01:48
david_thanks01:48
ugoompaul: but still id totally dig kernel-quake...! :-)01:48
naliothdskloet: if it's hung, killin it is the only way01:48
dskloetnalioth, but how do I kill it? I can't get a terminal at that moment.01:48
lastnodehow can i see the freespace i have on my linux partition?01:48
fredforfaendf -h01:49
dskloetlastnode, xdiskusage01:49
Sith_Tuxanyone had this problem?01:49
naliothdskloet: ctrl-alt-backspace01:49
ORiON2012dskloet: CTRL + ALT + F1, or try CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE to kill X01:49
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lastnodedskloet: bash commenad not found01:49
dskloetnalioth, I thought you ment killing the gnome-session...01:50
brownie17a guide on the ubuntu forums has told me to restart my comp, wtf!?!?! everytime i say restart in here i get my head blown off01:50
dskloetlastnode, install it...01:50
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lastnode!backorders01:50
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, lastnode01:50
naliothbrownie17: so restart. on *nix boxen, restarts are not as necessary as on windows boxen01:50
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lastnodei forget that command01:50
brownie17ugo, :) hahaha01:50
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lastnodei need to add to sources.list to get smeg01:50
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jsubl2i want to  put breezy on my mac..  will the installer make room or do i need to run hdutils first or do i have to reload panther01:51
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ORiON2012jsubl2: installer can format for you01:51
brenner!backports01:51
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports01:51
jsubl2thank ORiON201201:51
brennerlastnode: i was wondering why you kept trying backorders. lol01:52
ugobrownie17: just making sure we get the job done right :-)01:52
ompaul!tell lastnode about backports01:52
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lastnodesigh, thanks guys01:52
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naliothjsubl2: you have a ubuntu livecd?01:53
jsubl2no just the install cd01:53
naliothjsubl2: the installer should give you the option to make some room01:53
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jsubl2nalioth, ok.. will give it a shot01:53
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eSPetewhen i want to use mplayer i have to deactivate sound in gnome, how do i make mplayer not wanting the ethinre soundcoar for itself?01:53
naliothjsubl2: is it on another puter then the one you're on now?01:53
brennerjsubl2: it's a little hidden though01:53
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brennerthis was written for windows systems iirc, but still might be useful:01:54
ORiON2012eSPete: use a sound daemon like ESD01:54
brenner!resize01:54
uboturesize is, like, totally, The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to make space to install Ubuntu.  Even so you should backup important files first.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning01:54
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lyndonnalioth ther is no "openssh-server" in synaptic01:54
[Wiebel] hmz01:54
rob^pfft no it cant01:54
[Wiebel] the latest mplayerplugin seems broken01:54
dreameenk, got it working, i had to unload and then load these 3 modules manually: ieee1394, ohci1394, sbp201:54
naliothlyndon: really?01:54
nalioth!tell lyndon about sources01:55
{cYanide}erm if i right click on a windows exe, i get the option to open with cedega, but ive removed that since, is there a way i can remove that option01:55
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dreameennasty hack..i know, but hey it works;)01:55
ORiON2012lyndon: yes there is01:55
{cYanide}i removed it via the package manager, so im not sure why its still there01:55
ORiON2012lyndon: in main01:55
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florgwow. ubuntu is stunning!!!01:55
lastnodeflorg: heh :)01:56
brenner{cYanide}: right-click > preoperties > open with01:56
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ugoflorg: and so is jessica alba01:56
naliothjsubl2: parted (the thing doin the resizing) will work fine on your hfs+ partition01:56
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brennerrob^: no it can't resize?01:56
eSPeteORiON2012, do i have to setup mplayer.conf or change the default soundriver for my system?01:56
florgapproximately :-)01:56
deanhay01:56
ORiON2012eSPete: yup01:57
jsubl2nalioth, ok  booting the cd now.  2 systems 1 monitor01:57
eSPeteORiON2012, both?01:57
naliothjsubl2: cool01:57
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ORiON2012eSPete: try mplayer -ao help01:57
lyndonmmmm01:57
{cYanide}thing is, i want to remove the option from the right click menu01:57
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lyndonits hard to understand01:57
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lyndon:(01:57
brenner{cYanide}: is there a cedega option there?01:57
gerarconehow can i do to uninstall realplayer01:58
gerarcone?01:58
{cYanide}ya01:58
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ORiON2012eSPete: oh, sorry, no just in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf01:58
brenner{cYanide}: remove it. :)01:58
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brenner{cYanide}: that's where the menu looks for applicable apps01:58
ORiON2012eSPete: if you have a ~/.mplayer.conf that will override the system settings01:58
lastnodeyou have 111 software updates01:58
lastnodeshould I update?01:58
p0windahyes01:59
r3nz0rkguys is there's a easy way to install wine on ubuntu01:59
r3nz0rkguys is there's a easy way to install wine on ubuntu01:59
rob^ubotu no resize is the Ubuntu installer cannot resize NTFS partitions, for more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo01:59
uboturob^: okay01:59
lastnoder3nz0rk: asking once is generally a good practice01:59
r3nz0rkok01:59
eSPeteORiON2012, i do but changeing ao=esd does not help, on term it still says something about alsa and the video does not start before i deactivate sound in gnome01:59
gerarconenobody can help me?01:59
r3nz0rkso please answer my question?01:59
rob^brenner, no it cant01:59
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nalioths_dogr3nz0rk: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.02:00
p0windahr3nz0rk: wine is not easy to install on most distributions02:00
brennerrob^: yes it can02:00
p0windahr3nz0rk: you can try the paid support from transgaming and others though02:00
ORiON2012eSPete: can you msg me the exact error?02:00
r3nz0rkso what can i do to do so...02:00
rob^brenner, no, actually it cant02:00
deanam i NEED help, when i want to install or remove any package i get error that some of packes are corrupted and that i have to them first, ok i go and click repair packeages and then i get error pkgProblemResolver: that some packeges are not able to repair, that some files are need by some else and that can't be fixed. PLEASE HELP02:00
rob^brenner, trust me I've tried02:00
r3nz0rkis there's a free of charge?02:01
brennerrob^: that's news to me....i've installed ubuntu on 3 windows machines, all using the resize feature in the partitioning stage02:01
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naliothdean: read what ubotu sent you, and paste your errors02:01
deanok02:01
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lastnodehow cen i get a gui app to load on startup and then minimize to teh tray?02:01
p0windahr3nz0rk: this is one of the free of charge places, where you rely on people "wanting" to help you02:01
eSPeteORiON2012, i dont ge an error, the last output from term is AF_pre: af format: 2 bps, 1 ch, 44100 hz, little endian signed int02:01
eSPeteAF_pre: 44100Hz 1ch Signed 16-bit (Little-Endian)02:01
eSPetealsa-init: got device=0, subdevice=002:01
eSPetealsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default02:01
eSPete and the noting happen until i deativate sound under system/sound02:01
r3nz0rkis ubuntu also support all kinds of printer02:01
rob^well ditto, I have tried it with horay and you cannot02:01
p0windahr3nz0rk: if you annoy the hell out of the channel, no-one will "want" to help you02:02
deanhm how to i change language in ubuntu02:02
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rob^it tries to, but nothing happens02:02
naliotheSPete: dont paste in here02:02
naliotheSPete: use a pastebin (read the /topic)02:02
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brennerrob^: how did you do it?02:02
naliothlastnode: system > prefs > session02:02
deanhow to change language?02:03
brownie17is anybody here familiar with webmin?02:03
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WildZeckhi all02:03
sertmannim sort of state of panic, because im apparently ment to return my labtop to my work today, and i really need to transfer files my files to my PC, samba is up and running apparently, but it asks for a password, where neither my primary accounts, or guest accounts seems to work, where do i set those passwords?02:03
lastnodethanks nalioth02:03
lastnodewhat was that free space viewer called again?02:04
lastnodebah i gotta write these things down :)02:04
eSPetelastnode, df -h02:04
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naliothlastnode: install discus or xdiskusage02:04
WildZecksertmann,  use the share mode in a path with a 777 right if you are hurry02:04
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brownie17i need help desperately, i need to use webmin to disable eneterprise volume management system just so my damn computer will start up, because it keeps hanging on that, and i want to know, can webmin be run from the live cd? and how do i set a root password in live cd?02:04
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naliothbrownie17: i have another half answer: there is no root pass on the livecd02:05
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brownie17nalioth: hm... ok02:05
rob^brenner, well apparently it can.. but it must not 100% of the time02:05
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ugobrownie17: id hazard to guess yess you can run webmin from the live cd....but since it executes solely in memory ud have to install it every time02:05
eSPeteORiON2012, should i post it in the pastebin too?02:05
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brownie17!webmin02:05
ubotuTo use webmin with ubuntu you have to add a webmin-root account with : /usr/share/webmin/changepass.pl /etc/webmin root "password", or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount02:05
ORiON2012eSPete: that would imply that it's still using alsa02:05
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naliotheSPete: yes02:05
brennerrob^: b/c i have 3 dualboot computers here, all have had their original NTFS partition resized, and i haven't used partition magic, qtparted or anything else other than the installer's partitioner02:05
ORiON2012eSPete: alsa-init is the first clue02:05
lastnodei missed that again02:06
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lastnodebah, irssi cant scroll02:06
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ORiON2012eSPete: try mplayer -ao esd somemovie.mpg02:06
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brennerrob^: did you select the size value?02:06
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rob^brenner, I dunno, its been a while02:06
sertmannWildZeck, still asks for a username and password when i open the computer in Windows, any ideas02:06
Slyis it just me, or when using esd in xine/mplayer after 5/10mins the audio becomes outa syn02:06
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Slybut when not using esd it plays fine all way through ?02:06
ompaullastnode, press scroll lock button and shift page up02:07
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WildZecksertmann, are you sure youre using share mode in samba?02:07
p0windahSly: that could be a buffering problem02:07
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WildZecksertmann, can i paste you my samaba file in private ?02:07
rob^brenner, word is that it does, but it doesn't always work.02:07
p0windahsertmann: if you are in a rush, it might be quicker using ftp02:07
lesyhello02:07
Slynever thought of that =x02:07
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brennerrob^: yeah, just saw this: "If, when you are trying to shrink your partition, you are not given the option to enter a smaller size, it is because the installer does not feel it is able to resize the partition. Possibly because it thinks it is full, is currupt, or has some other problems that it cannot solve."02:07
lyndonnalioth i already install it what next ?02:08
brennerrob^: maybe i've been lucky02:08
lastnodethanks ompaul02:08
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naliothrob^: i've seen ntfs not resize due to corrupt sectors, but scandisk corrected the problem02:08
ompaullastnode, np02:08
cute_rolly2005hi02:08
brownie17anybody, should webmin be in synaptic?02:08
rob^brenner, no it still gave me the option, but it didn't actually work when I went with it02:08
naliothlyndon: do you know the IP of your computer?02:08
cute_rolly2005asl pls02:08
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naliothbrownie17: ubotu told you02:09
lyndonyup02:09
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lastnodeim pondering installing kde02:09
brennerrob^: you got to the point where you enter a new size?02:09
lastnodehow big is it?02:09
lastnodei mean the base02:09
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lastnodei like the liteness of gnome though02:09
naliothlyndon: what OS is on the other puter?02:09
lyndonOS ?02:09
rob^brenner, like I said, I'm not sure but its not 100% affective02:09
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naliothlyndon: you are wanting to get up from your current box and log into it from another one, right?02:10
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lyndonyes02:10
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koindoes anybody use realplayer?02:10
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naliothlyndon: so what OS is on the other box?02:10
brennerrob^: well, i'm changing the trigger back....if only for the sake that it *is* possible....i can add a disclaimer about it not always being possible though02:10
lyndoni want to access to another computer but i cant find where is the computer02:10
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WildZecksertmann, he is my smb.conf02:10
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naliothdamned bots02:10
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lastnodeis there a package that has AMP in it?02:11
dskloeticewm works great, thanks everybody02:11
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lastnodeor do i have to install everything seperately?02:11
sertmannWildZeck, cheers02:11
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rob^ubotu no resize is the Ubuntu installer can resize NTFS partitions, for more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo02:11
uboturob^: okay02:11
lyndoni want to see the desktop of station1502:11
sertmannWildZeck, ill give it a look02:11
lyndonthe file02:11
robzondamn it's so cool that amarok 1.3.1 got it to breezy :) big thx to developers02:12
eSPeteORiON2012, mplayer -ao esd somemovie.mpg work:D how do i make it default?02:12
naliothlyndon: the other computer needs to have an account with your name on it, and be running openssh-server also, if you want to acces it from where you are sitting02:12
brownie17i am absalutly desperate, why does enterprise volume management keep jamming on startup. i cannot figure out why. i even reinstalled linux, and now it is doing it again. i just installed the libdvdccs and ALSA sound, then it said i had to restart, so i did and now enterpirse volume management won't work. last time i tried disabling it, it just gave me a "HAL error" everytime gnome loaded, and that was just as bad. i do not know w02:12
brownie17hat to do and am very disenlightened with ubuntu02:12
ORiON2012eSPete: modify /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf  or ~/.mplayer/config02:12
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ccfielhello ppl..02:12
lyndonow02:13
lyndonkk02:13
lyndoni try02:13
ORiON2012eSPete: the one in your ~/ has a higher priority02:13
naliothbrownie17: easy.02:13
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eSPeteORiON2012, cool now it work, yhx02:13
naliothbrownie17: i have no idea what LVM is, or i'd help you02:13
lyndonand then if i click ing network, i can see the station15 ?02:13
ccfielcan somebody help me install my webcam? i have no idea how to install it. i have tried lsusb and i found my webcam " Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. Sansun SN-510 WebCam [hv713d] " what's next?02:13
lastnodeok im upgrading discuss is lovely02:13
naliothbrownie17: if you ask politely in here later, someone will know02:14
brennerrob^: cheers02:14
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brownie17nalioth, sorry, was that not polite?02:14
naliothlyndon: the methods i'm describing are usually done using the console02:14
lyndonoh02:15
naliothbrownie17: your last text was kinda sounding threatening02:15
brownie17nalioth, sorry i twasn't mean to be02:15
p0windahwhats your problem brownie17 ?02:15
rob^brenner, np happy to be corrected, also that wiki page is better then the original one02:15
brownie17nalioth, do you know how to compile webmin? i downloaded the tar.gz form website02:15
p0windahlet me re-phrase that, what problems are you having with ubuntu ?02:15
naliothbrownie17: yes i can help you02:16
brownie17p0windah, enterprise volume managemtn jams on startup and i do not know how to restart it02:16
brownie17p0windah, disabling it gives me a "HAL" error, i have tried resinatlled ubuntu, the error just came back after a whiel02:16
p0windahbrownie17: ok first thing you need to do is go check dmesg and syslog/messages02:16
brownie17nalioth, please do02:16
naliothbrownie17: whats the matter with the one from the repos?02:16
[Wiebel] anyone here using breezy and mozilla mplayer plugin?02:16
lyndonits hard to understand oh02:16
brownie17nalioth, i am using livecd, it did not appear02:16
LinuxJonesbrownie17, you talking about LVM ?02:16
lyndonnalioth thanks a lot02:17
naliothbrownie17: i suspect you need to take another action then building webmin on a livecd02:17
lyndonmay be i ask question when i have a time02:17
brownie17LinuxJones, i dont think so, i think it is a different thing in startup called "enterprise volume management" it starts up just after LVM... i think02:17
lyndonfor now its hard to understand ^^02:17
Kuolioccfiel, try using google to find something more about using your webcam on linux.. I just searched "webcam linux" and found this: http://www.linux.com/howtos/Webcam-HOWTO/index.shtml   hope it helps :)02:17
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lyndonthanks nalioth02:17
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brownie17nalioth: well when i tried disabling evm with update-rc.d it gave me a "HAL" error everytime i logged on, weas that co-incidence02:18
ccfielKuilio: ok thanks! :D02:18
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naliothbrownie17: it's my bedtime.02:18
naliothbots are really swarming now02:19
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ORiON2012ccfiel: seems to be supported by the spca5xx kernel mod02:19
brownie17nalioth_zZz, ok02:19
brownie17LinuxJones, can you help me with rc.d to disable EVM?02:19
lastnodeis firestarter a good firewall?02:19
rob^lastnode, for home use yes02:20
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lastnoderob^: any other apps you'd reccommend?02:20
brownie17seveas, can you help me disable EVM? it is crashing on startup. i cannot boot. last time i disabled it i kept getting a "HAL" error on logon02:20
rob^apart from firestarter, no02:20
lastnoderob^: thanks mate02:20
lastnoderob^: if i want to run php mysql etc, i have to get apache, php4 and mysql seperately?02:21
dskloetAfter ctrl-alt-bs, how do I get back to X+gdm? startx just starts an xsession without gdm...02:21
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LinuxJonesbrownie17, yes but ar you running Hoary ?02:22
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ORiON2012dskloet: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart02:22
brownie17LinuxJones, yes i am02:22
brownie17LinuxJones, pm?02:22
zone17Hi, has the ubuntu security team integrated the fix for firefox?02:22
LinuxJonesbrownie17, nope here is fine, do you have any windows partitions like fat32 on your system ?02:22
dskloetORiON2012, thanks, that won't tell me gdm is already running? (as plain sudo gdm does)02:22
brownie17LinuxJones, i have an NTFS02:22
ORiON2012dskloet: you can always ps -A | grep02:23
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Tomcat_zone17: What fix?02:23
ORiON2012dskloet: or /etc/init.d/gdm status02:23
Tomcat_zone17: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-181-1 <--- This is the last one02:23
zone17Tomcat_, the latest security issue02:24
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Tomcat_zone17: If it's CAN-2005-2871, then yes.02:24
dskloetORiON2012, thanks I'll try that.02:24
LinuxJonesbrownie17, first have a quick look at this, it mentions it doesn't provide support for windows filesystems but I doubt that would cause the service from failing. >> http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=10288    , If you want to stop the service you do >> sudo update-rc.d -f <service script name> remove02:24
brownie17LinuxJones, will that affect it? if there is no other way i can definatly format that02:24
lastnodehow do you uninstall a package?02:25
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p0windahapt-get remove package_name02:25
dabarlastnode: do you use synaptic?02:25
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ORiON2012lastnode: you really need a starter guide of some sort, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewToUbuntu02:25
LinuxJonesbrownie17, so it would be sudo update-rc.d -f evms remove02:26
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brownie17LinuxJones, thankyou.02:26
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Snobloweranybody want to tell me exactly how to download ubunutu? i don't really know what i'm doing :(02:26
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ORiON2012Snoblower: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ is a good bet02:27
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nalioth_zZzbrownie17: see? patience is a virtue02:27
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Will^Dravenblah02:29
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brownie17nalioth_zZz, we are yet to see if it works, my friends02:29
Will^Dravenis there an easy way to downgrade my kernel?02:29
brownie17nalioth_zZz, restart coming02:29
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dabarSnoblower: go to http://www.ubuntu.com and click on download on the right. Frm there, scroll down, till you get the list of download sites for the 5.04 AHoary release. Select the best country for yourself. Then, look at the list of files, and find the one that matches your computer, i386 is pentiums, and other 32 bit processors, like some amds, ppc is apples, and amd64 is 64 bit amds...Finally, choose the .torrent, for faster download s02:30
CryptidPlease Help!!!!How to get the Panel that Looks OS-X launcher02:30
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mirakin wich domain can ubuntu 64 bits bring some more performances ?02:30
mirakdoes gcc handle SSE3 instructions ?02:30
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cuscoCryptid: look here! http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=down&page=0&PHPSESSID=705cc774dda483ef9d7acc00e97a5d0702:31
andelgadohello02:31
cuscohello02:31
Cryptidcusco, ya i've seen it on that page itself but how do i get the Panel (is it part of the theme or i got to download it seperatly)02:32
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andelgadoneeds help, need to have package libssl0.9.6, to install YM02:32
andelgadowhere can I download libssl0.9.6.deb?02:33
ompaulmirak, look and that and ctrl+f for sse3 lots of info for you  http://floppsie.comp.glam.ac.uk/Glamorgan/gaius/web/gcc.html02:33
cuscoCryptid: I would say that the easy way would be installing the whole theme, and then ont the Theme options from gnome choose onthe the pannel02:33
AGRAV8DHey , after installing ubuntu updates my other OS's disappeared. I had suse on 1 drive , XP on another. How do i get access to them back02:34
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ORiON2012andelgado: in universe repos02:34
mirakompaul: ok02:34
deancan you help me that i will add one program to startup in terminal if this is possible02:34
andelgadoubuntu CD only has 0.9.702:34
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ompauldean what program do you want to start?02:34
cuscoandelgado: apt-cache search libssl0.9.602:34
mirakI am trying to get rid of lilo messages errors. I used lilo before using grub, and got questons concerning lilo when upgrading the kernel02:34
cuscoits on the universe repositories02:35
andelgadowhere is universe repository?02:35
lastnode_i cant seem to find mysql in synaptic02:35
cuscoandelgado: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list02:35
andelgadopls tell steps02:35
cuscouncomment those lines from the universe02:35
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andelgadoi'll try. ty02:35
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cuscosave the file; apt-get update; apt-get install libssl0.9.602:35
test34in synaptic there is not an option to see only installed packages ?02:36
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DiffindoI tried the sound configuration instructions on ubuntu guide and the forums, and I still have no noise...02:36
ORiON2012test34: yes, yes there is02:36
test34ORiON2012, where ?02:36
Diffindohelp?02:36
ORiON2012test34: click status in lower right02:37
deanam i want to start one program which put on my web server sql ftp php and all together02:37
ORiON2012test34: then click installed in upper right02:37
deanplease don't say install apache from ubuntu - it didn't work at me good02:37
ORiON2012test34: left, sorry02:37
dabarcusco: did you ever use aptitude? its great, for example,. I install apache with aptitude, it has 4 other packages as dependencies. Then in five minutes, I decide, I dont like apache, and want to remove it. I remove it with aptitude, and aptitude removes the 4 packages as well.02:37
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test34ORiON2012, ok thanks02:37
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AGRAV8Dcan someone tell me how to regain access to my other operating systems, ubuntu "updates" erased their entries.02:38
[Wiebel] Can i find old breezy packages somewhere?02:38
Aragorn_Guardianhi all... good morning02:38
[Wiebel] i need the mplayerplug-in package from a week ago02:38
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DiffindoI tried the sound configuration instructions on ubuntu guide and the forums, and I still have no noise...can anyone help?02:38
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deanso there is possible to add program to startup or not02:38
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p0windahdean: rcconf02:39
p0windahdean: but its not recommended02:39
[Wiebel] anyone?02:39
deanam where can i found it02:39
p0windahapt-cache search rcconf02:39
Aragorn_GuardianI need help with pam. i am trying make a ubuntu station log into domain (PDC), but I am not sure about process...02:39
deanwhy not02:39
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mandyhello02:39
mandyjskhjhnhdjgdkmmtdeim,jiyinxl nm,n jkgo02:39
ColonelKernelhow do I install w32codecs for mplayer?02:39
mandygklgjdkhumggytihgn02:39
mandygsg;l;gk02:39
p0windahdean: if its an application, stick it in gnome.02:39
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p0windahdean: if its some server/daemon, there should already be init scripts02:40
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andelgadocusco, what should i do first, type...  apt -cache search libssl0.9.6 in the command prompt?02:40
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Aragorn_Guardian!pam02:40
ubotuAragorn_Guardian: Syntax error in line 102:40
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andelgado cusco, what should i do first, type...  apt -cache search libssl0.9.6 in the command prompt?02:40
Aragorn_Guardian!active directory02:40
ubotuAragorn_Guardian: I haven't a clue02:40
cuscoandelgado: sudo apt-get update02:41
andelgadoty, will try now02:41
cuscothen sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.602:41
fdrHello... I'm trying to mount a fat32 fs, but I can't get the filenames with accented letters to display properly... what is the correct mount option? I tried both utf8 and uni_xlate but it doesn't seem to work... Thank you!02:41
maginooi want my printer to share in all of the computer here can some one help me ?02:41
ColonelKernelanyone? Please? w32codecs?02:41
Aragorn_GuardianDiffindo:  i have this problem too, but the tutorial is ok...in my case i remove all others sound systems, and start tutorial again02:41
andelgadogives me error mess:   sudo: apt: command not found02:41
ColonelKernelPackage w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.02:41
ColonelKernelThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or02:41
ColonelKernelis only available from another source02:41
AGRAV8DWOW ,  452 people in this channel and not one can answer my question.02:41
dabarmaginoo: are they all ubuntu?02:42
andelgadoi wrote it in the command prompt02:42
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maginooyes02:42
maginooits all ubuntu02:42
apsyncMy sound is not working, anyone know what I can do?02:42
maginoowhen same username02:42
maginoowith same username02:42
DiffindoAragorn_Gaurdian: Humor me, how would I do that?02:42
dabarmaginoo: tried the printing through System>Admin? there should be an option for a network printer,.02:42
andelgadoanyone has encountered problem installing yahoo messenger?02:43
andelgadowanna share how to fix prob02:43
deanyeah it should have but it doesn't have or i don't know where to find it02:43
Aragorn_GuardianDiffindo:  in synaptic, you can deselect everything that is not alsa...update alsa, and follow tutorial...anyone correct me...02:43
p0windahbetter question, has anyone ever installed such named package ?02:43
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Aragorn_GuardianDiffindo:  but it works...i have problems like you...but worked..02:43
dabarColonelKernel: the w32 codecs package is just a collection of files, it does not install anything. THis is why it is ok to get it from debian. You can download it if you google for "w32codecs marillat" find the file, download it, and install it with sudo dpkg -i w32codecsblah.deb02:44
andelgadois there a site in the net where to download missing packages? i need libssl0.9.6 package. yahoo messenger needs it.02:44
p0windahandelgado: I use psi without any problems and I believe it supports yahoo02:44
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andelgadopsi, is it part of ubuntu?02:44
Aragorn_Guardiandabar:  one question about print sharing is that in samba, like in a windows share, one useful thing will be that will be possible install a shared printer remotely. is possible do that?02:44
p0windahandelgado: yeah02:44
klepasandelgado: type !info application02:45
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deanyes it did it is named XAMPP and lot of people use it, because it is easy and works02:45
ColonelKerneldabar, thank you02:45
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andelgadohow do i launch it, the psi (what's it)02:45
FallenOnecan anyone help me/02:45
Aragorn_Guardian!info pam02:45
p0windahtype "psi"02:45
FallenOnei need a guilde02:45
test34Aragorn_Guardian, use ssh to do it remotely ?02:45
FallenOneguide02:45
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FallenOnehow i can make my ubuntu dual booth02:45
FallenOnewith windows02:45
andelgadowhere shall i type psi? in the command prompt?02:45
Diffindo!audio02:46
ubotuDiffindo: I haven't a clue02:46
Diffindo!sound02:46
ubotuwell, sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/02:46
Aragorn_Guardiantest34:  no...i said...you dont have the drivers for a xyz printer, you click on the sj] hare, and the drivers will be there, in the share. windows do that.02:46
p0windahandelgado: well you need to install it first, so in a terminal type "sudo apt-get install psi qca-tls"02:46
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p0windahandelgado: that should install psi and the ssl stuff it makes use of02:46
Aragorn_GuardianFallenOne:  is a grub question, i think you must see in grub docs02:46
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andelgadoit showed couldnt find package psi02:47
andelgadoanymore help pls02:47
No1VikingI got problems with swedish characters. Any idea what to do when my swedish special characters show up as a ??02:47
p0windahandelgado: add universe into your repositories02:47
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andelgadopls tell how i do that... universe into repositories02:48
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Aragorn_Guardian!info active directory02:48
p0windahandelgado: actually I tell a lie, you will need to have a jabber account to use the yahoo stuff02:48
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Aragorn_Guardian!info krb502:48
nir_hi02:48
p0windahandelgado: so if you want to use a jabber account and attacjh your yahoo to it, grab psi. otherwise give it a miss02:48
Aragorn_Guardian!info mped02:48
ubotumped: (a small editor with syntax highlighting), section universe/editors, is optional. Version: 3.1.11-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 308 kB02:48
No1VikingI got problems with swedish characters. Any idea what to do when my swedish special characters show up as a "?" ?02:48
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andelgadoi think my prob is that universe thing. i don't know here it is located02:49
FallenOnearagon guardian02:49
p0windahNo1Viking: are you sure you have the right unicode fonts installed ?02:49
FallenOnewhere is gurg02:49
FallenOneor something02:49
nir_how i can disable GDM and run automaticlly fluxbox ?02:49
p0windahandelgado: its in /etc/apt/sources.list02:49
No1Vikingp0windah: Nope, am not sure02:49
andelgadois universe a directory included in the CD installer?02:49
p0windahandelgado: no, internet02:49
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test34FallenOne, man grub02:49
nir_?02:49
FallenOnetest02:49
FallenOneobuntu02:50
FallenOnejust arrived02:50
nox_ghostwhen i place a new startup script in "sessions" - in which file it saves it?02:50
FallenOneat my house02:50
FallenOnei dont know anything02:50
FallenOneso whats grub/02:50
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reikiFAllenOne... try to use one line to post :)02:50
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test34FallenOne, was windows installed when you installed ubuntu ?02:50
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FallenOnei didnt yet install it02:50
FallenOnei want to know how to make it dual booth02:50
andelgadoso how do i add the universe, should i launch the synaptic package manager?02:51
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test34FallenOne, why do you need windows anyways02:51
andelgadop0windah, more help pls,02:51
FallenOnegood question ,02:51
FallenOnefor games02:51
FallenOneim gunna use windows ONLY for games and linux for the res02:52
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andelgadohow do i add universe to repositories? help pls02:52
reikifor some reason I've never"trusted"... "liked"... dual booting. I prefer swappable drives. :)02:53
Aragorn_GuardianFallenOne:  grub is the boot manager. is better than older lilo. see the man, docs02:53
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FallenOneThanks02:53
FallenOneand one last question02:53
Aragorn_Guardiantest34:  no... I am not in that fase...ehehehe... i started in a clean HD for a while....8)02:53
test34andelgado, in synaptic go in Settings - Repositories - Add02:53
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Aragorn_Guardiantest34:  grub is a surprise for me....hehehehehehehehe02:54
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deanam anyone know gow to use gconf02:54
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test34andelgado, and then select Community Maintained (Universe)02:55
koinplease, someone can tell me how to delete an icon from the gnome-menu?02:55
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andelgadoya thanks, already done.. still waiting to finish download02:55
deFrysk!tell koin about smeg02:55
test34koin, Applications - System Tools - Application Menu Editor02:56
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klepas!info repositories02:56
klepasor something like that *ggg*02:56
FallenOneas what must i make a new partition????02:56
FallenOneprimary or logical?02:56
deFrysk!tell koin about backport02:56
klepasanyone know how I would go about adding extra repositories under breezy?02:56
p0windahcheck /etc/apt/sources.list02:57
test34klepas, in synaptic go in Settings - Repositories - Add and then select Community Maintained (Universe)02:57
deFrysk!repositories02:57
uboturepositories is, like, probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96902:57
FallenOnetest, primary or logical for new partition?02:57
klepasthanks heaps :-)02:57
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deanhow to write in gconf-editor that will start one program at startup02:58
test34FallenOne, I don't think it matters.. but primary if you can02:58
p0windahdean: http://ubuntuguide.org/#runprogramsstartupgnome02:59
DiffindoHow do I run a .GZ file...02:59
Diffindo?02:59
cuscodean: that I really don0t know, I know before you log off you can memorise your screen tho02:59
fdrSorry, I'm asking this a second time... I'm trying to mount a fat32 fs, but I can't get the filenames with accented letters to display properly... Anybody please knows the correct mount option? I tried both utf8 and uni_xlate but it doesn't seem to work... Thank you!02:59
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p0windahDiffindo: double click on it in nautilus,; remember also that a .GZ file is the equiv. of a .ZIP file03:00
kointest34: i don't have this Application Menu Editor03:00
koindeFrysk: smeg is the only choice?03:00
deanp0windah this doesn't work03:00
deani make that03:00
DiffindoThe file in the GZ is an unknown type that I can't figure out03:00
p0windahin what way doesnt it work dean03:00
deanbut didn't work or i write not right orders03:01
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deanit write that has to run program03:01
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deanbut it didn't run03:01
p0windahdouble check how owns the script you are trying to run and its +x03:01
test34koin, I use breezy, maybe that03:01
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test34koin, I use breezy, maybe that's why03:01
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kointest34: yes, i use hoary03:01
kointest34: so, how can i do? it's impossible that i'm losing hours to delet a simple icon!03:02
koindeFrysk: what are these backports?03:02
p0windahkoin: what are you tryng to do exactly ?03:02
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emanuelezhello03:03
hyphenatedfdr: are you sure the problem is with the mounting, and not with whatever tool you're using to view the files with?03:03
emanuelezhow do i install a newer version of kismet... the one in the official repositories seems one year old!03:03
koinp0windah: i've uninstalled real player and i have still the icon in the audio & video menu03:03
koinp0windah: i want to delete this icon only03:04
maginooi want my printer will share in all network03:04
p0windahkoin: and you want those entries removed ? http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#menu-editor03:04
test34koin, yeah there should be an option in the right-click menu to delete them.. but sorry I don't know03:04
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p0windahkoin: in hoary the menu editor wasnt included by default, in breezy it is03:04
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koinp0windah: i tried with sudo apt-get smeg but it doesn't work03:05
test34its kinda strange that when you right click something in the menu it only give you the option to add it somewhere else, but not to delete it03:05
p0windahwhat do you mean, "doesnt work"03:05
fdrhyphenated : i'm using both nautilus and the terminal, and none of those works03:06
deFrysksudo apt-get install <package>03:06
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fdrhyphenated: please note that the accented chars that arise problems are in the file *name*, not in the contents03:06
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emanuelezwhere can i find unofficial repositories?03:07
p0windahhttp://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories03:08
deFryskemanuelez, be wise, dont use them03:08
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emanuelezp0windah: none of those have a recent version of kismet03:08
VincentMXhi03:08
hyphenatedfdr: indeed. and that same tool shows other filenames with accented characters fine, right? ones that aren't on that vfat filesystem03:08
apsynchi, just installing gstreamer0.8-mad and now is mp3's working, what package do I need to be able to play avi's ?03:08
emanuelezdefri03:08
andelgadotest34, cusco, p0windah, and the rest who helped me, THANKS HUMANS! My Yahoo messenger works now!03:08
emanuelezdeFrysk: i only need a newer version of kismet.. that's it03:09
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p0windahgood stuff :)03:09
andelgadogonna test if my webcam and audio will work03:09
deFryskemanuelez, ok03:09
cuscoandelgado: you could use yahoo messenger trhu gaim03:09
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andelgadooh, and what is gaim? been hearing that but got no idea03:10
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deFrysk!tell andelgado about gaim03:10
fdrhyphenated : yes, both tools work just fine with accented filenames on my ext3 home03:10
cuscoandelgado: menu Applications - Internet - Gaim03:11
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andelgadoyes, pls explain gaim, others wanna know too03:11
LogtimeWhen using the FTPS or HTTPS protocol, gFTP cannot connect if the remote server uses a self signed certificate.03:11
LogtimeYou must add the public key of your self signed CA to your OpenSSL certs directory. On my Debian box, the OpenSSL certs are installed in /usr/lib/ssl/certs.03:11
Logtimeanyone idea?03:11
cuscoandelgado: gaim is a IM messenger client which supports several protocols03:11
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cuscolike yahoo messenger, msn messenger, jabber, icq, irc03:11
kemikLogtime:  no, but if you get one, pls tell me :)03:12
deFryskand also google messenger not to forget03:12
Logtimeo_O03:12
ccfielhow do i know what version of kernel i used?03:12
p0windahccfiel: uname -a03:12
kemikuname -r03:12
deFryskuname -r yes03:12
p0windahI prefer verbosity :)03:12
nox_ghostwhen i place a new startup script in "sessions" - in which file it saves it?03:12
kemikobviously ;)03:12
andelgadogot it, will try03:12
test34andelgado, with gaim, you can use MSN, yahoo, aim, jabber, irc and more03:13
p0windahnox_ghost: /home/user/.baby_jesus_loves_you/session_stuff.omgzor03:13
hyphenatedfdr: you could try playing with iocharset then, if it's not latin-103:13
ccfieli have a kernel Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 and when i synaptic i can only find a Linux kernel source for version 2.6.10 and Linux kernel source for version 2.6.11 and  i need to get one? what shall i get?03:14
andelgadowill it be compatible with yahoo's voice call and webcam sharing?03:14
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ColonelKernelandelgado, NO03:14
ColonelKernelandelgado, theres nothing to do yahoo cam on linux yet03:15
ColonelKernelim anxiously awaiting03:15
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andelgadoi c. that's why i can't find option to open webcam in yahoo03:15
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ccfielhello can somebody help me...03:15
ccfieli have a kernel Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 and when i synaptic i can only find a Linux kernel source for version 2.6.10 and Linux kernel source for version 2.6.11 and  i need to get one? what shall i get?03:16
ColonelKernelthat is correct, sir03:16
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fdrhyphenated: hmm please, do you know what the correct value for iocharset would be?03:16
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Logtimesomeone know a client ftp gui with SSL???03:16
LinuxJonesnox_ghost, it should be in >> /home/username/.gnome2/session/usr/sbin03:16
ColonelKernelnot even the yahoo linux client can allow linux to do yahoo webcam, and i am disgusted.03:16
Logtimeplsss03:16
test34is there a .deb for firefox 1.5 ?03:16
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LinuxJonesnox_ghost, err  >> /home/username/.gnome2/session/03:16
hyphenatedfdr: it depends what was being used while it was a windows drive. eg: iso8859-3 or somesuch03:16
Logtimesomeone know a client ftp gui with SSL???03:16
andelgadodoes it mean, i can't use my webcam for chatting in linux?03:16
nox_ghostLogtime, gftp ?03:17
nox_ghostthanx LinuxJones03:17
Logtimenox_ghost,03:17
LogtimeYou must add the public key of your self signed CA to your OpenSSL certs directory. On my Debian box, the OpenSSL certs are installed in /usr/lib/ssl/certs.03:17
andelgadono webcams in linux?03:17
Logtimei've that problem03:17
andelgadono voice chatting as well?03:17
p0windahandelgado: try skype03:17
hyphenatedandelgado: skype works fine on linux03:18
test34andelgado, you can do voice chatting with skype03:18
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andelgadohow about webcams? skype is part of this ubuntu?03:18
p0windahandelgado: a quick way to find linux apps is on sourceforge.net03:18
test34andelgado, for webcams I dont know I dont own one03:18
test34andelgado, http://skype.com03:18
andelgadogonna check out sourceforge.net, will do that03:18
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fdrhyphenated : so I should specify both utf8 and iocharset, right? Given that the partition was created and used with an Italian version of windows 98, where can I look for the right charset? thank you..........03:19
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andelgadothanks guys. gonna ask new topic....03:19
moparfan90hello does anyone know how to make windows transparent ? (im using e17)03:20
p0windahyou mean translucent ?03:20
gabbermanheh03:20
moparfan90what ever03:20
p0windahtransparent might be hard to work with03:20
gabbermananyone can help with soundcard problem?03:20
nox_ghostgabberman,03:20
nox_ghost!google site:ubuntuforums.org happy alsa esd03:21
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, nox_ghost03:21
Logtimesomeone know a client ftp gui with SSL???03:21
gabbermanhuh?03:21
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nox_ghostsearch this in google03:21
nox_ghostsite:ubuntuforums.org happy alsa esd03:21
hyphenatedfdr: possibly. apparently iso8859-1 is correct for italian, and is the default. the plot thickens03:21
gabbermanma sound cards ISA03:21
jonphilpotthi, i recently moved from suse 9.3 to ubuntu 5.10, and now gnome/linux doesnt recognise blank DVDs when i insert them/try to burn them03:21
gabbermansomeone on here yesterday said all i need was some code03:22
andelgadoany help, i need WINES, where to find?03:22
gabbermanto enable the sound card03:22
jonphilpottany ideas what would cause this.. theres a lot of messages in dmesg03:22
gabbermanindtall the drivers etc03:22
fdrhyphenated: glad to hear that the plot thickens.... :-P :-)03:22
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DjKriticalanyone know if there is a package for watching asf movies in firefox?03:26
gabbermannox_ghost   ... read site... doesnmt mean too much to mean, im noob03:26
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gabbermanapparently theres a command which installs all the isa sound card drivers...03:27
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CarlFKasf - is that flash?03:27
gabbermani just cant rmember what it was..03:27
DjKriticalasf = micros**t03:27
p0windahsome streaming windows thing03:27
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apsynchmm my sound/videoplayer is laggy03:28
apsyncjust downloaded my nvidia drivers03:28
DjKriticalIt's a windows media player plugin thing which displays streaming media on webpages03:28
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DjKriticalfor instance, the videos on big-boys.com (best non-porn website ever)03:29
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gabbermansound card help anyone?????03:30
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DjKriticalgabberman, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards03:32
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^DodGeR^could someone point me at a java/firefox howto ? i have installed java , but java dont work in firefox03:33
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neelsANYone know about wlan cards on ubuntu?03:33
^DodGeR^!java03:33
ubotuI guess java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java03:33
p0windahheh03:34
reikihow do I see what video drivers are installed? AND... if I have an older geforce2 card and everything seems to be working fine, is there any reason I should be trying to install nvidia drivers? Or leave it alone? (if it ain't broke, don't fix it)03:34
^DodGeR^!firefox03:34
ubotu^DodGeR^: I give up, what is it?03:34
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neelsWLAN help please03:34
p0windah^DodGeR^: check out www.ubuntuguide.org03:34
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p0windahits reasonably comrehensive03:34
ccfielDoGer: ubu03:34
p0windahcomprehensive, too03:34
ccfielDoGer: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre03:34
^DodGeR^did that p0windah , said to install the j2re ..03:34
^DodGeR^ta03:35
DjKritical^DodGeR^: I followed that site and java works fine for me03:35
^DodGeR^yeah java works fine , but java games in firefox dont03:35
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Frag52954hey, whats ubuntu breezy colony 4 like then?03:35
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Hikaru79Would you guys say that the current Breezy preview is good enough for regular use?03:35
LasseL^DodGeR^, you need to create a link to install the plugin into firefox03:36
p0windahHikaru79: no03:36
_anti-net_Hikaru79: i know some people who are using it, bit buggy03:36
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Hikaru79Drat =( What sort of problems does it have?03:36
_anti-net_Oct 13th it comes out right?03:36
p0windahHikaru79: based on the presumption that a regular user has little internet opening a terminal and messing around with config files03:36
Frag52954try it on your machine Hikaru7903:37
p0windahlittle interest03:37
p0windahwhyt am I typing like such a retard tonite03:37
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p0windahagain... when will this madness stop03:37
jonphilpottive been using it for about a week.. only problem ive had is not being able to burn dvds03:37
Frag52954if it works fine and you want to use it freeze the repos, because it probably is changing quite a lot atm03:37
Hikaru79p0windah, I have no problem messing with the system. As long as the problems aren't with the packages themselves, I can handle most fixable problems.03:37
neelsWLAN !03:37
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VincentMXhi beyond03:37
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p0windahHikaru79: go for it then03:38
spine55does anyone know how to change the refresh rate of the transparency for konsole?03:38
VincentMXhi littlepaul03:38
neelsnarge barge knarge03:38
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littlepaulhi VincentMX ;-)03:38
_anti-net_I'm going to wait, tho ubuntu is going to replace XP as soon as i finsh school :P03:38
p0windahspine55: translucency03:38
^DodGeR^LasseL, pelase elaborate ?03:38
spine55p0windah: oh sorry :)03:38
spine55p0windah: so how do you change it?03:39
p0windahno idea :)03:39
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infaredHi guys. Yesterday, i decided to try out linux for the first time. I downloaded the ubuntu live CD "ubuntu-5.10-preview-live-i386.rar" ..i burned it and then booted it. Then it told me that it was about to install something, so i clicked no and went back to windows. My question: isnt a Live-CD to test things out with no installations and stuff?03:39
VincentMX_anti-net_ hope you finish school very early03:39
beyondVincentMX, hi03:39
spine55it's choppy and the gnome terminal does it really smooth03:39
harrytuttleinfared: would help to know what it wanted to install03:40
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Will^Dravengahhh03:40
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Will^Dravenmy kernel compile bombed out :(03:41
infaredwell, first some files names ran down the screen fast like it does when u boot up in windows safe mode, and then about the installation thing, i kinda forgot as this happend yesterday. want me to do it again and check out what happend?03:41
Hikaru79infared, if you burned the right ISO, it should *definitely* not be installing anything on your hard drive.03:41
^DodGeR^!proxy03:41
ubotu^DodGeR^: Are you smoking crack?03:41
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^DodGeR^how does one set a proxy for apt-get ?03:41
Hikaru79infared, lately the livecd booter has used the installer for some basic configuration options, but it is *still* most definitely a livecd.03:42
harrytuttleinfared: i'm quite confidend it wont' install anything, you could try again, read it better and if still in doubt write it down03:42
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harrytuttle^DodGeR^: i would recommend approxd, but it's only in breezy.03:43
pc5kmusta s mga linux users03:43
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^DodGeR^cant use breezy yet .. so what ure saying is i cant proxy apt-egt ?? ie i cant install anything if i am forced to use a proxy ?03:44
erUSUL^DodGeR^: man apt.conf03:44
^DodGeR^sweet ta03:44
p0windah^DodGeR^: its possible, but you'll need to read03:44
^DodGeR^if you could point me .. quite good at treading .o)03:44
reikihow do I see what video sriver is being used in Hoary?03:45
n00blarHi all, anyone that can point me to an application that I use to play my DvDs on Ubuntu? I used to use xine, but don't know if I can use it with Ubuntu03:45
harrytuttle^DodGeR^: there are other proxies for apt, but the best one is approxd. you could try to install it from breezy or from debian, or you could backport it, or you could live with another one03:45
p0windahcheck erUSUL's comment above03:45
reikisriver=driver03:45
p0windahyou dont need to install anything special for it to use a proxy, just read the man file03:45
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erUSULreiki: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep driver03:45
reikierUSUL, thanks...03:46
erUSULreiki: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep *Driver*03:46
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harrytuttle^DodGeR^: ops. do you need to setup apt to use a pre-existing proxy or do you need to set up a proxy server for use with apt?03:46
draug_nn00blar: VLC plays dvds. sudo apt-get install xine should work too03:47
reikiinteresting... cat: /etc/X11/xorg.cong: No such file or directory03:47
Will^Dravenim trying to build a kernel image using kernel-package and kernel-source-2.4.27 and i get this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/225503:47
reikidoh!03:47
n00blardraug_n, awesome..thanks03:47
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jpfariashey guys!03:47
draug_nnp :)03:47
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jpfariasdoes anyone knows if the current breezy kernel has inotify enabled?03:48
erUSUL^DodGeR^: maybe it's easier through synaptic. Configuration->preferences->net03:48
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Fred|Fr3dhey, anyone know if mIRC can run using WINE?03:48
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harrytuttlejpfarias: yes03:49
jpfariasharrytuttle, ok, thanks!03:49
erUSULWill^Draven: why do you want a 2.4 kernel?03:49
jpfariasharrytuttle, I think I'll try beagle, that desktop search tool03:49
segosa<Fred|Fr3d> hey, anyone know if mIRC can run using WINE? << I've tried it.. it seems to work but last time I used it the script editor was not.. editable. just try it. maybe wine's fixed that03:49
Will^Dravenbecause my sound driver dosent support 2.603:49
jpfariashaffe, it's really cool ;-)03:49
jpfariasops03:50
Fred|Fr3dsegosa: thanks, i will try :)03:50
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jpfariasharrytuttle, it's really cool03:50
harrytuttleWill^Draven: which sound card, out of curiosity?03:50
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zanzaralo03:51
CryptidHow do i get the Panel that Looks like OS-X launcher for Gnome03:51
erUSULWill^Draven: aha...03:51
^DodGeR^that works erUSUL , thanks (will still need to figure out how to do the command line apt-get proxied at some point)03:51
FireCatIs anyone else getting kernel panics on shutdown with Breezy03:51
Will^Dravenits a riptide, under slackware i had to install these drivers to get it to work: http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/ the HCF and the Riptide03:51
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harrytuttleWill^Draven: nasty...03:52
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FireCatI think it is in LVM at the end when it syncs03:52
erUSUL^DodGeR^: maybe synaptic have set the proxy setting to all programs using apt (is a front end) try out cli and see what happens03:52
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Will^Dravenyeah well its the only hardware ive got right now03:52
^DodGeR^yeah will check soon as the lists are updated , tnx much03:52
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elvirolohi all03:53
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Will^Draventhere isnt some magic ubuntu apt command i could perform to switch to a 2.4 kernel by any chance is there? heheh03:54
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elvirolowill it be possible, when breezy gets released, to upgrade from hoary without a hitch ? (ie: not having to run apt-get -f install, or fiddling with xorg.conf ...)03:54
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steven_Laptophello How do I check the running level im on?03:55
djm62steven_Laptop: telinit03:55
FireCatelvirol: Not sure, but I think dist-upgrade does that03:55
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p0windahelvirolo: I did it a week back without problems03:55
harrytuttleWill^Draven: maybe installing a debian sarge 2.4 kernel, could work.03:55
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lonewolffelvirolo: it should work well using apt-get dist-upgrade03:56
djm62steven_Laptop: and bear in mind that ubuntu is based on debian, which doesn't use runlevels like the RH-style distros03:56
elviroloreally ? i did it two weeks ago, and I had to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:56
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lonewolffelvirolo: i did it 2 days ago and didnt have to change anything03:56
p0windahhad you previously hand tweaked your config files ?03:56
lonewolff(on both ppc and x86)03:57
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elvirolowell ... it's a good thing if it works :)03:57
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steven_Laptopdjm62, thats what im fighting with here lol im trying so damn hard to setup my boot option here meaning im trying to get running level 4 to be the same as the default but with no network grrrr03:58
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elvirolosomething else ... is amarok 1.3 _definately_ not making it to breezy ?03:58
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Will^Dravenharrytuttle: any idea how i might go about obtaining said kernel?03:59
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p0windahelvirolo: I see Version: 2:1.3.1-0ubuntu2 right now03:59
steven_LaptopI add to grub (Ubuntu No network) and that should be running level 403:59
steven_Laptopgrrrrr03:59
elvirolop0windah: really ?!03:59
p0windahthats what "apt-cache show amarok" tells me04:00
mirakis apt-build known to have problemes with ubuntu ?04:00
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steven_Laptopbut its not working the way I want04:00
elvirolop0windah: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=amarok&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all04:01
n00blarOk, anyone that can give me a package source for me to dl xine? I can't seem to apt-get xine with my current source list04:01
harrytuttleWill^Draven: search for it on packages.debian.org (kernel-image-2.4-something), download the deb, install it widh dpkg. but it is calling for trouble. with 2.4 kernel no more udev, and expected problems with hotplug and the like.04:01
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CryptidWHAT IS GNOME PANEL04:01
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Will^Dravenbloody hell04:01
FireCatstephen_laptop: Why don't you just disable your network, and turn it on when you want it?04:02
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p0windahelvirolo: I just pasted what my cache says, I'm using universe and multiverse04:02
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elvirolop0windah: weird, thanks anyway :)04:02
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harrytuttlesteven_Laptop: what about using a little init script that parses the kernel command line and if it founds "nonetwork" it disables the auto eth0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces?04:03
steven_LaptopFireCat, were and how do I disable the network and The Sync04:03
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CryptidHow do i get the OS-X Launch panel imitation for Gnome????????????????????????????????????04:03
p0windahCryptid: you ask politely04:03
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Cryptidp0windah, sorry04:03
Logtimesomeone know a client ftp gui with SSL???04:04
Cryptidp0windah, ne ways how do i get it?04:04
FireCatstephen_laptop: System>Administration>Networking [Properties]   []  This device is configured04:04
steven_Laptopim up to trying anything here if im not around any networks this sucks I end up with a 3 min boot time04:04
elvirolohum, something else (again) ... my wifi card is finally detected by breezy (which is great) but it (ie ra0) won't activate at startup04:04
steven_Laptopok ic04:04
Logtimesomeone know a client ftp gui with SSL???04:04
FireCatLogtime: I think gftp does it04:05
magnon!gftp04:05
ubotuI don't know, magnon04:05
apsynchow come, pc starts lagging when I move the slidebar while watching / listening movie or mp3?04:05
steven_Laptopgft04:05
steven_Laptopgftp04:05
p0windahCryptid: maybe you can have a look at http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/04:05
apsyncI have the right nvidia drivers now too04:05
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Logtimegftpdoes problem04:05
ablyssLogtime, putty04:05
erUSULelvirolo: edit /etc/network/interfaces a add somthin like auto ra004:05
Logtimei've compiled but now04:05
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Logtimewith gui04:06
Logtime?04:06
LogtimeYou must add the public key of your self signed CA to your OpenSSL certs directory. On my Debian box, the OpenSSL certs are installed in /usr/lib/ssl/certs.04:06
elviroloerUSUL: ok thanks ... but why doesn't it do it by itself ?04:06
ablyssu will need to build putty so gcc is needed04:06
Logtimei need help to do that04:06
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ablysshttp://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html04:06
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DjKriticalIf anyone here is interested in making linux do things when you say commands into your microphone, go look up perlbox-voice04:06
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FireCatIs anyone else getting kernel panics on shutdown with Breezy, I think in LVM I get a kernel sync panic and it locks up the box solid04:06
ablyssgftp doesn't do ssh ?04:07
p0windahCryptid: this thread seems to have a few ppl doing similar stuff too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57418&highlight=osx04:07
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erUSULelvirolo: not everybody want his interfaces up at boot time. System-->Administration->Net to make the change with gui04:07
djm62nautilus does sftp and sftp...Places->Connect to Server04:07
nickrudLogtime, /usr/share/doc/openssl/doc/HOWTO/certificates.txt.gz04:08
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elviroloerUSUL: yeah, i tried that ... but if i want it to activate, i have to change from dhcp to static ip (and vice versa) every time04:08
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BiSK-8hello04:08
BiSK-8u ppl know any good text editor i can get through apt-get?04:09
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ablyssBiSK-8, try sudo apt-get install mousepad04:09
BiSK-8can i drag- drop .class files with it?04:10
ablyssdunno, never tried.. .but I doubt it04:10
BiSK-8dammit04:10
BiSK-8i have a hex editor04:10
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ablyssi like mousepad because it's so dern fast04:10
BiSK-8but i cant copy/paste04:10
BiSK-8that's the only 1?04:10
ablyssthe only one i use besides vi.. :-D04:11
BiSK-8nope04:11
BiSK-8wont work04:11
BiSK-8thanks though04:11
BiSK-8bye04:11
elviroloerUSUL: in fact; etc/network/interfaces DOES contain auto ra004:11
moparfan90hello. how do i install the drivers for my pny vetry geforce FX card??04:11
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anonymtest04:12
erUSULelvirolo: well, the problem is not there then04:12
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elvirolomaybe the file is overwritten every time i boot up04:13
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n00blaranyone knows a source to get libdvdcss2?04:15
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erUSULn00blar: hoary-extras?04:19
jXpXanyone use the amule?04:19
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clarkn0vahey, i just got a wireless card for my laptop.  can someone tell me what the kernel modules are called now?   because the ubuntu documentation is wrong.04:19
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jXpXtou losee04:20
jXpXformat04:20
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CarlFKclarkn0va - still called modules04:20
CarlFKclarkn0va - what are you talking about? ;)04:20
liableclarkn0va: depends what card it is..04:20
clarkn0vait's a linksys WPC11v404:21
n00blarwhere can I get libdvdcss2? I'd like to play my commercial dvds with ubuntu04:21
HoxzerHow should I mount my floppy driver?04:21
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CarlFKHoxzer - I think it automounts when you use /media/floppy04:22
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HoxzerCarlFK: that seems not to work04:22
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erUSULn00blar: hoary-extras? i told you04:22
CarlFKHoxzer - just a sec04:22
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clarkn0vathe documentation says it's supported, but then it names an apt module package that doesn't exist04:23
[Wiebel] does anyone have a good apt site where i can find w32codecs ?04:23
erUSULHoxzer: Places->System-> floppy04:23
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erUSUL!tell n00blar [Wiebel]  about repos04:23
test34where should I put Totem movie player codecs ?04:24
erUSUL!tell n00blar about repos04:24
Cryptidp0windah, Thanx for alll the Help04:24
erUSUL!tell [Wiebel]  about repos04:24
n00blarer4z0r, ok...that sounds ok, but I don't know what hoary-extras is04:24
HoxzereRUSUL: thx04:24
erUSULtest34: it depends if you are using totem-xine or totem-gstreamer04:24
test34erUSUL, gstreamer04:24
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dskloetI edited xorg.conf to have 1024x768 instead of 1280x1024 but now I have a virtual screen larger than my actual screen. What did I do wrong?04:25
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n00blarerUSUL, ok..thanks04:25
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CarlFKHoxzer - nm - i thought the install setup automount.04:25
hablandocontigoMy guess is this is the nfs port for Mac 548afpovertcp  but my Ubuntu distro 2049 port is open for NFS. I've had problems connecting this Tiger to the nfs share.04:26
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FireCatdskloet: Take out the 1280x102404:26
DjKriticalDoes anyone know how to configure ubuntu to use 2 sound outputs/inputs?... I've got my normal soundcard+speakers and usb headphones&mic04:26
dskloetfirecat, ok I'll try04:26
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DjKriticalmy usb headset comes up in mixer... but I can't see how to switch04:26
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[Wiebel] erUSUL: none of those include w32codecs04:27
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trip_naga#naga04:28
liable!w32codecs04:28
ubotuw32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repository. AMD64? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 Legal issues: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats04:28
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erUSUL[Wiebel] : i have them instaled from hoary-extras04:28
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test34erUSUL, in /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/ right ?04:29
mahounoaihey guys, i'm having weird troubles with the JRE and Firefox, can anybody help?04:29
erUSULread the page that ubotu told you. is not that hard ;)04:29
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erUSULtest34: i do not know. Maybe you shoul use prepackaged codecs. where do you get the codec you are trying to install?04:30
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[Wiebel] erUSUL:04:30
[Wiebel] Reinstallation of w32codecs is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.04:30
test34erUSUL, on mplayer's website.. codecs for wmv and others04:31
rob^umm if you say so heh04:31
mahounoaianybody know how to include the sun-j2re-1.5 into firefox?04:31
erUSULtest34: this are the w32codecs install from hoary-extras04:31
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erUSULmahounoai: how have you installed java?04:32
[Wiebel] it doesnt seem to exist anymore04:32
rob^!java04:32
ubotusomebody said java was to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java04:32
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rob^man I love bots04:32
test34erUSUL, ok04:32
mahounoaiyeah, i went through synaptic and installed sun-j2re1.5, and it ran fine in jedit04:32
dskloetFireCat, thanks it helped :)04:32
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mahounoaiwhen i opened firefox, though, it said it was missing04:32
erUSUL[Wiebel] : i have updated them last night don't know what coul have happened04:32
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dskloetFireCat, by any chance, do you know how to make a meta key out of my windows key?04:33
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aprilhi04:33
mahounoaihi04:33
apsynchow come, pc starts lagging when I move the slidebar while watching / listening movie or mp3?04:33
apsyncI have the right nvidia drivers now too04:33
[Wiebel] erUSUL: wel can you mail me the .deb? :)04:33
dskloetor anyone else? (winkey -> metakey?)04:33
rob^I wonder if its worth creating an intelligent bot that automatically answers questions instead of us having to use commands04:34
steven_Laptopok im now booting to level 4 sweet we are almost there now in the start up how do I kill networking04:34
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erUSUL[Wiebel] : i have a 56k dial-up :( the deb is too heavy....04:34
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FireCatdskloet: No, I don't sorry04:34
ompaul!tell [Wiebel]  about restricted04:34
dskloetFireCat, ok thanks anyway04:34
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pedri2anyone here?04:35
rob^ahha04:35
steven_Laptopno04:35
FireCatrofl04:35
tigermbhow can i change the usplash image?04:35
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rob^I wonder..04:35
rob^!usplash04:35
ubotufrom memory, usplash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss04:35
test34how about breezy-extras ?04:35
ompaulpedri2, only about 45604:35
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pedri2i have a usb webcam but i dont know which application to use to view it04:35
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steven_LaptopFireCat, do you no the command to kill network starting at boot up?04:36
[Wiebel] erUSUL: ok04:36
LinuxJonestigermb, In the gconf-editor (don't know exactly where though :( )04:36
[Wiebel] i'll look for it04:36
CarlFKpedri2 - start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras04:36
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rob^ubotu no usplash is in Breezy: sudo apt-get install usplash, for more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss04:36
ubotuokay, rob^04:36
strawhey peopls04:36
mahounoaierUSUL: when i installed the j2re1.5, it didn't register with firefox04:36
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FireCatstephen_laptop: No, why do you ask?04:36
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strawwould you want to chat?04:37
mahounoaierUSUL: is the a config file for firefox, maybe?04:37
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harrytuttlesomebody could tell me what was the reason to split languages in packs in main? just to cut down the size of the install cd?04:38
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pedri2CarlFK: thanks, do i have to install gnome meeting package coz i use kubuntu04:38
DjKriticalAnyone know how to stop using onboard sound and start using usb sound?04:38
n00blarer4z0r, am I supposed to add those sources to my source-list?04:38
ompaulpedri2, http://tinyurl.com/7hujd may be of use two ubuntu resources on webcameras04:38
FireCatsteven_laptop: I've seen slow boots because of lack of network, but from memory it is because of ntp04:38
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marc^finally got it installed04:39
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hablandocontigoMy guess is this is the nfs port for Mac 548afpovertcp  but my Ubuntu distro 2049 port is open for NFS. I've had problems connecting this Tiger to the nfs share. Can someone help troubleshoot my problem?04:39
CarlFKpedri2  - don;t know - just know ofthat page ;)04:39
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abethhi04:40
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strawhi jazz04:41
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strawwanna chat?04:41
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denbeirenhello04:41
marc^anyone know about setting up dual moniters?04:41
rob^wheres the asl first? hehe04:41
NoctisDeihi. i am trying to compile xchat 2.4.5 but it gives an error: Could not run GTK+ test program ... can someone help?04:41
heartEyeok I want to install RealPlayer.  Where is the directory where program files are kept?04:41
rob^NoctisDei, one question: why?04:41
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mahounoaihearteye: did you check the mplayer site?04:42
NoctisDeirob^: because it's the new version?04:42
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marc^second moniter is currently blurred and stretched, probably needs to be set 800x600 like my computer on windows04:42
rob^Breezy has 2.4.404:42
vanbergeim going to ask this in here just bc you guys are always helpful... is it possible to tell httpd to use physical ram instead of swap?  then have other processes use the swap?  :-/   tks in advance, wont ask again.04:42
heartEyeits a mozilla plugin, mahounoai04:42
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rob^what feature is in 2.4.5 that you need it so badly?04:42
pacerhello.  Anyone know why section 2 from man pages is empty?04:42
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NoctisDeirob^: security bugs04:42
dr_willisvanberge,  its not worth messing with. Linux is so good at when to use swap file ior not.04:42
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NoctisDeirob^: check xchat website04:42
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NoctisDeianyway... can someone help?04:43
steven_Laptopmarc^, you running nvidia?04:43
rob^NoctisDei, they are patched into the package04:43
vanbergedr_willis, well, in my case it would be kind of worth it...  httpd uses swap alot04:43
steven_Laptopmarc^, m running daul04:43
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NoctisDeirob^: don't understand... xchat 2.4.4 is already patched?04:44
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marc^ati04:44
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marc^radeon 955004:44
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dr_willisvanberge,  ive seen a large # of debates/articals on trying to outsmart linux and how it uses swap or real ram.. and they almost alwyas agreed - its not gaining you anything.. there may be some other apache twe4aks that may help you however.04:44
marc^ive got it set up properly in windows, main 1024x768 and second 800x60004:44
steven_Laptopouch good luck Im running nvidia there not even close04:44
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pacerAnyone know why section 2 from man pages is empty?04:44
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p0windahvanberge: yould ofcourse try out lighttpd04:44
thespiritoftalI just turn on my computer and realized that package manager is working... why is that? does it do updates automatically? or what else may be the reason?04:45
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p0windahyou could...04:45
pacerAnyone know why section 2 from man pages is empty?04:45
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NoctisDeirob^: is xchat 2.4.4 (ubuntu package) already patched?04:45
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rob^NoctisDei, hang on just checking04:45
p0windahpacer: sometimes the developers just havent got anything to stick in them04:45
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NoctisDeirob^: ok04:45
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steven_Laptopmarc^, ATI is a bitch in linux04:45
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marc^oh goody04:45
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p0windahpacer: if you want to double check, try: apt-get install --reinstall package04:46
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erUSULthespiritoftal: yes it does or maybe you sved the sesion with synaptic open04:46
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marc^well, im considering a 6600gt04:46
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marc^:)04:46
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vanbergemainly i'd just like to give httpd higher priority...04:46
heartEyewtf is the Prefix for Symbolic Links?04:46
pedri2do i have to install gnome meeting to get my usb webcam working?04:46
erUSULsteven_Laptop: i'm quite happy with my ati and radeon drivers. man radeon04:46
p0windahvanberge: have you tried lighttpd ?04:46
steven_Laptopmarc^, NVdia rocks in linux04:46
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marc^erUSUL,  you know anything about dual moniters?04:46
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steven_LaptoperUSUL, you running daul monitors?04:47
vanbergep0windah, no...04:47
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p0windahvanberge: I switched from apache and recommend it04:47
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rob^NoctisDei, I cant tell you for sure, but if not they will be shortly04:47
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erUSULsteven_Laptop: marc^ no :(04:48
p0windahvanberge: its memory footprint is lighter, its faster and supports native fast-cgi load balancing04:48
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pacerp0windah: How can i get the Linux Programmer's manual ?04:48
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vanbergep0windah, what about mysql, ssl, etc.04:48
NoctisDeirob^: ok... but, i want to compile xchat now. and gives that error. can you help me?04:48
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marc^well, way to fix it is to set res 800x600 and 60hz04:48
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p0windahvanberge: yup, yup and yup04:48
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marc^but i want the main window as 1024 and at least 75 hz04:48
rob^NoctisDei, what is the security problem?04:48
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erUSULmarc^ but the man page for radeon says it support dual head and Xinerama04:48
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p0windahvanberge: sites like isohunt that are both database and hit heavy are using it right now04:48
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NoctisDeirob^: i don't know. but i just want to compile it...04:49
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steven_LaptoperUSUL, hehehe thats were it falls  been there tryed that mashed that...04:49
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erUSULMarc^ try googling a bit04:49
waltzQuestion: Has the autogreeter crash been fixed in 5.10?04:49
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NoctisDeieverything is ok except that strange error (Could not run GTK+ test program)04:49
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ompaul!ops04:49
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uboturumour has it, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth04:49
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rob^NoctisDei, check out http://xchat.org/changelog.txt04:49
waltzWhen I loaded Ubuntu last time, for some reason it couldn't enter the desktop environment04:49
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NoctisDeiit detects glib, openssl, ipv6... but no gtk+ *sigh*04:50
marc^maybe ill try sleeping a bit04:50
NoctisDeiok.............04:50
rob^its probably not worth compiling for that04:50
marc^almost 1am04:50
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dr_williswaltz,  what crash?04:50
marc^can i access other hard drives with ubuntu04:50
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p0windahmarc^: sure can04:50
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marc^cause i have no music here04:50
dr_willismarc^,  you can mount them and access them all ya want.04:50
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[Wiebel] erUSUL: is it for you inpossible to reinstall w32codecs as well?04:51
erUSUL!tell marc^ about windowsdrives04:51
waltzdr_willis: I loaded Ubuntu onto a 400 gig HDD, and then for some reason, after it had finished loading, it couldn't start the "autogreeter" program.04:51
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dr_williswaltz,  im not even sure what you mean by the auto-gteeter program. :P i just installed it twide here last night on 2 diff machines.. no probopems so far.04:51
rob^04:51
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waltzhmm04:52
vertigoIs universe and multiverse access not available for breezy?04:52
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rob^vertigo, it is04:52
ompaulRichiH, long time no see :)04:52
dr_willisHmm.. given a group of several ubuntu box's on the same lan.. there an easy way to get ONE machien to download the updates and  so forth. and then have the otehr machines use THAT machines copies? not redownload the updates04:52
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rob^!repos04:52
uboturepos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96904:52
vertigoI am getting errors in synaptic once I remove the ## for them04:52
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Sundarhi all04:52
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dr_willisvertigo,  use 'sudo apt-get update' first04:52
p0windahdr_willis: there is04:52
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RichiHompaul: and not under a good star, either04:53
SundarI want xmms for unbuntu04:53
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Sundarcan anyone help me ? pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ?04:53
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rob^vertigo, you don't remove all of the ##, only the ones that are commenting out the deb lines04:53
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dr_willisSundar,  then apt-get install it. :P04:53
ompaulRichiH, no I jave called for ops04:53
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dr_willisSundar,  i just isntalled it and a dozen+ plugins for xmms.04:53
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Sundardr_willis:  apt-get install xmms ?04:53
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Angel-SLhow do i get chinese?04:53
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_Soldier_buenas04:53
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rob^whats with all the people joining/parting?04:53
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ompaulSundar, with the word sudo in front of that04:53
dr_willisSundar,  time to read up on the fundamentals of installing things and using apt-get and synaptic :P04:53
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pacerHow can i get the Linux Programmer's manual in my man pages?04:53
p0windahdr_willis: check out approx and apt-proxy04:53
n00blardr_willis, actually it works as apt-get install xmms-ui04:54
vertigoI know that, and that's exactly what I did04:54
ompaulrob^ bot attack04:54
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vanbergep0windah, there must be a way to run httpd with a higher priority though?04:54
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rob^super..04:54
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vertigoIt worked on hoary04:54
p0windahwhat is that going to achieve ?04:54
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vertigoand it bitches at me in breezy04:54
erUSUL[Wiebel] : not a problem for me04:54
firsttimerhi, can anyone help me set up my wireless card? I followed the wiki on both ndiswrapper and ubuntu but it still dosent work04:54
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erUSULvanberge: man nice04:54
Angel-SLhow do i get chinese fonts?04:54
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waltzWhat could be the possibilities of the auto-greeter program crash? Bad CD? Bad HDD? ...the fact that the HDD is connected to a motherboard which previously ran Win32? ...04:55
p0windahAngel-SL: apt-get install ttf-arphic*04:55
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[Wiebel] erUSUL: hmm04:55
[Wiebel] that's strange04:55
_Soldier_i am newbie, i am thinking in to install ubuntu. what do you think that i must be use, lilo or grub?04:55
Sundardr_willis:04:55
Sundarsudo apt-get install xmms04:55
SundarReading package lists... Done04:55
SundarBuilding dependency tree... Done04:55
SundarPackage xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.04:55
SundarThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or04:55
Sundaris only available from another source04:55
SundarE: Package xmms has no installation candidate04:55
p0windahheh04:55
rob^NoctisDei, I really wouldn't bother04:55
p0windahyou bad04:55
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[Wiebel] erUSUL: i'm running breezy, with hoary-extras in m'n apt sources04:55
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[Wiebel] should work right?04:55
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firsttimer_soldier_ lilo is suppose to be more advanced04:55
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erUSULSundar: do *not* flood the channel use pastebin as stated on the topic04:55
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dr_willisSundar,  try 'sudo apt-cache xmms' and see if  its in some other package name04:56
rob^bob2, you around?04:56
n00blarSundar, try apt-get install xmms-ui instead04:56
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Sundardr_willis: thanks04:56
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anywIs there a way to get kde 3.5 with breezy ?04:56
dr_willisi tend to just use synaptic and  click on everything that said xmms at the front. :P04:56
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erUSUL[Wiebel] : well i'm on haory you will have to live with the shotcomings of an unstable release ;)04:56
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bayramhalo04:56
p0windahvanberge: I dont use apache anymore, and although I am sure you can increase its priority. how do you expect things to play out with reiser, mysql, and whatever cgi you are running ?04:56
firsttimerhi, can anyone help me set up my wireless card? I followed the wiki on both ndiswrapper and ubuntu but it still dosent work04:56
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ompaulrob^, used the bot to call for ups they all have been informed if they are online - now the question is are they looking, obviously not so we go again in a few minutes04:57
p0windahvanberge: increasing its priority, to the detriment of other processes04:57
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pacerp0windah: How can i get the Linux Programmer's manual in my man pages?04:57
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Sundardr_willis: n00blar: nothing works :'(04:57
p0windahpacer: apt-cache search linux manual04:57
rob^ompaul, yeah I'll see if I can track them down04:57
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vanbergep0windah, im not too worried about them... the httpd processes are the ones that take the most resources, so i want them to be processed with higher priority04:57
ompaulSundar, please use paste.ubuntulinux.nl when you have a lot of data or #flood04:57
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p0windahvanberge: switch to lighttpd then04:58
Sundarok04:58
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_Soldier_can i talk in pm with any people to ask a questions?04:58
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p0windah_Soldier_: you can try :)04:58
gncusterhi there, does anyone know how to control the color depth for an external crt using i855crt?04:58
bayramwie kann ich xine ber ubuntu instaliere04:58
firsttimer_Soldier_, what qauestion?04:58
erUSUL_Soldier_: ask here04:58
lonewolff_Soldier_: best to ask in channel, where there are more people to answer your question04:58
_Soldier_I have a lot questions04:58
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ompaulRichiH, can you make this place +r, if so  please be our guest04:58
n00blarSundar, u may need to add sources to your source-list file04:58
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p0windah_Soldier_: have you read www.ubuntuguide.org ?04:59
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Sundarn00blar: how to add ?04:59
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rob^!ubuntuguide04:59
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.04:59
dolmen_Soldier_: are you a bot?04:59
ompaul_Soldier_, dont use that04:59
firsttimer!faq04:59
ubotufaq is, like, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)04:59
p0windahthe guide isnt that bad04:59
rob^p0windah, yes it is04:59
rob^see above04:59
ompaulp0windah, it may work for you, but _please_ do not suggest it to anyone04:59
=== mode/#ubuntu [+r] by RichiH
ompaulRichiH, thanks05:00
_Soldier_yeah, i read a ubuntu guide05:00
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=== p0windah smells politics
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_Soldier_but i want to ask opinion to install ubuntu on my laptop05:00
p0windahso whats the sanctioned link ?05:00
=== reiki just smells
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ompaulp0windah, nope, smell broken machines, and people crying about stuff not working05:00
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ompaulp0windah, wiki and faq05:00
p0windahgotcha05:00
p0windah_Soldier_: read the topic and dont ask to ask05:01
p0windahbetter ?05:01
firsttimercan anyone help me trouble shoot my wireless card problem, driver is installed, power light for card is on, but iwlint wlan0 scan yields nothing05:01
ompaulp0windah, say it with love :)05:01
anywNo way to have kde 3.5 with uuntu ?05:01
stelkiHello, is there a program to see how good your wireless connection is?05:01
firsttimerer iwlist...05:01
_Soldier_ok05:01
firsttimerstelki, try reading iwlist and iwconfig man pages05:01
apsyncis it possible to change the port in GNOME BitTorrent?05:01
stelkifirsttimer, ok :)) thanks05:01
n00blarOk, I have xmms and libdvdcss2 and can't watch any dvds still. Xine complaints that it can't read the source. Any ideas?05:01
vanbergenice --10 /etc/init.d/httpd start    :-)05:01
vanbergep0windah, i can already tell that makes a difference05:02
firsttimermaybe there is a wireless channel I should be asking on?05:02
ompauln00blar, did you do it the way it is described on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?05:02
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erUSULn00blar: have you set the correct device in preferences for xine05:02
p0windahvanberge: I'm sure you can :)05:02
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stelkifirsttimer, mine is named ath0.. is it not listed in ifconfig?05:02
Sundaris there any command to list the packages that are available in net via apt-get ?05:02
stelkifirsttimer, sorry if its a stupid suggestion, I dont know anything about it05:03
waltzWhat could be the possibilities of the auto-greeter program crash? Bad CD? Bad HDD? ...the fact that the HDD is connected to a motherboard which previously ran Win32? ...05:03
firsttimerstelki, usually your wirelss card will be wlan0 or wlan1 or the like05:03
reikiSundar: you can open Synaptic, highlight "all" ... and browse or search05:03
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Angel-SLstill05:03
firsttimerstelki, when you plug your card in do you get its power light to come on? or are you using some internal wireless card?05:03
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p0windahAngel-SL: fonts working ?05:04
Talkycan anyone tell me whats the proper iocharset for fat32 partitions05:04
Talkyi have set it to utf805:04
Angel-SLp0windah: not even after i restarted X05:04
stelkifirsttimer, yea, the led is blinking05:04
p0windahAngel-SL: let me check, I have chinese fonts installed05:04
firsttimerstelki, the power or signal led?05:04
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stelkifirsttimer, both05:04
Talkybut it gives me warinnig that its not proper iocharset05:04
waltzCould someone please respond to my question?05:04
ompaulRichiH, see this: http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/64014 ?05:04
erUSULTalky: it depends on where you can from...05:04
pacerp0windah: Thank you very much ;)05:05
firsttimerstelki well thats good...05:05
n00blarerUSUL, it actually reads the title of the dvd, but it won't play it. And going through the setup screen half of those tabs say..there's no config option to display05:05
stelkifirsttimer, I didnt even install a driver, its some netgear thing, but tahts no help for you05:05
erUSULTalky: it depends on where you come from...05:05
erUSULn00blar: :(05:05
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Talkyuhuh erUSUL05:05
Talkydidn't get you05:05
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ompaulTalky, a lot of people use iocharset=iso8859-105:05
reikiwaltz: define "auto-greeter"05:05
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p0windahAngel-SL: apt-get install xfonts-intl-chinese*05:05
p0windahAngel-SL: that should install traditional and simplifed05:06
firsttimerstelki, can you register with your wireless connection?05:06
Talkyic ompaul thnx05:06
Talky:)05:06
waltzreiki: After all the libraries are loaded, Ubuntu supposedly starts the auto-greeter program, which starts X-Windows....05:06
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erUSULn00blar: well i do not know how to help you further... so :(05:06
ompaulTalky, what erUSUL was saying was it depends on your location which set you tend to use05:06
stelkifirsttimer, what do you mean register? it works, yea.. im not using secure wifi though, wouldnt let me connect using it, still investigating05:06
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firsttimerstelki, what are you trying to troubleshoot then if its working?05:07
waltzDo you know what I'm talking about?05:07
MrFaberhi all05:07
stelkifirsttimer, im not troubleshooting anything, was trying to help you heh, but im not much of a help05:07
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MrFaberIs this the right channel to post bugs or ask for solutions?05:07
firsttimerstelki, oh ic lol05:07
p0windahAngel-SL: apt-get install ttf-microsoft-sim*  <- simli and simyou from microsoft05:07
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MrFaberRichiH, :)05:08
ompaulMrFaber, ask for solutions, and we will if it a bug point you to reporting it :) buzilla.ubuntu.com so don't ask to ask let's play who has a bug today :)05:08
CarlFKother than vi, is there a command line way to add a repo to /etc/apt/sources?05:08
p0windahCarlFK: no05:08
CarlFKI want to script it05:08
firsttimerstelki, well my problem when i type iwlist wlan0 scan it does nothing05:08
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MrFaberok, I have a problem that always when my frequency changes my mouse stops for one or two seconds05:09
erUSULCarlFK: a dozen or so XD05:09
CarlFKXD?05:09
firsttimermrfaber, you cpu freq?05:09
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p0windahthere are many05:09
MrFaberyes05:09
MrFaberFilbert, yes05:09
MrFaber:)05:09
MrFaberfirsttimer, yes05:09
stelkifirsttimer, sounds weird, try opening network-admin and see if its there? thats all I did05:09
MrFaberto much users :)05:09
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SundarI want X-devel ( .h & lib ) files ? I couldn't find in synaptic05:09
erUSULecho "source line" >> /etc/apt/sources.list05:09
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Angel-SLright05:10
firsttimerstelki, ill try that right after breakfast ;-)05:10
p0windahAngel-SL: fixed ?05:10
Sundarhow can I install it >05:10
stelkifirsttimer, ok =)05:10
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Angel-SLp0windah: uh-uh..restarted X...05:10
Talky:(05:10
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Sundaranybosy pleaseeeeeeeee05:10
p0windahAngel-SL: that's great05:10
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RichiHompaul: ah, now i can place you completely. selfhtml?05:10
dooglushi all.  what file contains the "Xlib" library please?05:10
Angel-SLp0windah: i'm trying to view with gedit..no results..:(05:10
RichiHompaul: and yes, i read that :)05:10
firsttimerj05:11
RichiHompaul: cu, til the next time :)05:11
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Angel-SLp0windah: hello? it isnt fixed yet05:11
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CarlFKman aptget is confusing me.  where do I put --assume-yes? (before or after "install")05:11
MrFaberWhich cpu frequency utility is used by ubuntu?05:11
p0windahAngel-SL: so whats working and what isnt working ?05:12
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Angel-SLCarlFK: after.05:12
CarlFKthanks05:12
MrFaberKernel ondemand module works very fine for me on other distro05:12
Angel-SLp0windah: nothing is worlking for chinese/05:12
erUSULCarlFK: try both and see what happens05:12
p0windahAngel-SL: ok, what kind of settings do you have in your /etc/locale.gen file ?05:12
MrFaberHas anyone the same problem?05:12
erUSULAngel-SL: have you generated the locales?05:13
p0windahAngel-SL: and if you load up gedit, can you see the chinese fonts you installed in the font list dialog ?05:13
Angel-SLp0windah: i can erUSUL: i havent done anything with locales p0windah: locales file only has en_SG ISO-8859-105:13
CarlFKerUSUL - like this: apt-get --assume-yes install --assume-yes curl ;)05:13
p0windahah ok05:14
p0windahAngel-SL: you probably want to change the 8859-1 to utf-805:14
p0windahUTF-8, rather05:14
Angel-SLwil english still work then?05:14
p0windahyes it will05:14
p0windahbut SG wont work in 8859-105:14
Kejk_PLhi, utf-8 is still not good idea for Polish users. I'm using iso8859-2 :)05:15
vertigoWhen I remove the ## from my sources.list, I get this error, using breezy05:15
vertigoW: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)05:15
vertigoWhat the hell is that about?05:15
erUSULAngel-SL: and maybe you need to restar x or xft to reload system fonts05:15
erUSULvertigo: you are using an unstable release live with it ;)05:16
CarlFKvertigo - paste your sources.list to the paste page that is around here...05:16
MrFaberI have an old Dell Inspiron 8200 with 1200/1600 MHZ. It only hangs for some seconds when cpu freq is changed back to 1.2 GHZ05:16
Talkycan anyone let me know how to change the default setting GRUB05:16
vertigoCarl, it's the default for the Breezy preview05:16
Talkyi want to boot window xp as default05:16
Talkyos05:16
vertigoShould I just replace them with a mirror?05:16
CarlFKvertigo - you tweeked it05:16
CarlFKTalky - vi /boot/grub/menu.lst05:17
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vertigoCarl, all I did was remove the ## for the universe repository, that's all05:17
marc`the -real- #ubuntu05:17
vertigoworks for Hoary05:17
apsynchow come some things don't get saved when I close pc?05:17
MrFaberTalky, edit /boo/grub/menu.lst05:17
Talkywhat next CarlFK05:17
MrFaber:)05:17
Talkythen MrFaber05:18
Talky.......05:18
Talkywhat should i edit there05:18
Talky?05:18
MrFaberIs XP already listed?05:18
apsynchow come some things don't get saved when I close pc?05:18
CarlFKlook for default05:18
ompaulmarc`, hu?05:18
vertigoWTF!05:18
vertigoI restarted synaptic and it worked05:18
Talkyyes MrFaber05:18
MrFaberTalky, and change the value to the position of xp05:18
vertigothere are strange things afoot in breezytown05:18
MrFaberjust count :)05:18
marc`just trying to get registered to get here05:18
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MrFaberTalky, and count the information lines with it05:19
CarlFKTalky - change "default         0" to "default         1" or "default  saved"05:19
marc`thanks to whoever told me how to load windows hard drives05:19
CarlFKI like "saved":05:19
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Talkythnx MrFaber05:20
Talkythnx CarlFK05:20
TalkyCarlFK05:20
Talkyone more query05:20
CarlFKyer welcome05:20
CarlFKno need to stop at on ;)05:20
CarlFKone05:20
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ompaulTalky, could you please keep all your text on the one line, it would take up a lot less screen space and let someone who is slower have a chance to read the screen :)05:21
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p0windahsounded like a, "I've got this friend who is a slow.... but its not me" explanation ompaul05:22
Sundarwhere can I get xorg-devel packages ?05:22
CarlFKlol05:22
marc`so i've got my other hard drives, need an MP3 plugin05:22
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ompaulp0windah, now calling me slow might be something you can get away with now and again  :)05:22
Sundaranybody here to help me..................................05:22
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CarlFKall your packages belog to http://packages.ubuntu.com05:23
p0windahI can see the line and will be careful not to cross it05:23
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FireCatSundar: Did anyone pm you to try to help you?  :)05:23
Talkyhow can i configure the winmodem (conexant HSF modem ) in ubuntu?05:23
ompaulSundar, if you  stopped asking a second time I might actually take the time to answer your first question05:23
uklondonif i get files not found on mirror when using ''apt-get update' can i change the mirror and how would i do it ?05:23
marc`workspaces just caught me out05:24
marc`where did all my windows go!?05:24
CarlFKSundar guessing you want xorg source?  or just headers?  (im kinda clueless about packaged source)05:24
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Talkyok ompaul :), i will try :)05:25
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uklondoncan anyone help me05:25
setite-SFDthis is not a help channel... are you nuts?05:25
setite-SFDhaha05:25
uklondonif i get files not found on mirror when using ''apt-get update' can i change the mirror and how would i do it ? <-05:25
p0windahuklondon: in a terminal type "sudo apt-get update"05:26
p0windahuklondon: then re-try05:26
uklondoni did05:26
uklondoni did05:26
uklondonmore than 4 times05:26
setite-SFDwhat mirror is failing05:26
CarlFKuklondon - do you like command line or GUI?05:26
p0windahuklondon: do you know how to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file ?05:26
Paradossowhat mail client do you people use?05:26
setite-SFDCarlFK - im assuming apt-get update woudl have been in CLI... just a guess05:26
marc`how do i get an mp3 plugin05:26
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CarlFKgood point05:26
setite-SFD!tell marc` about mp305:27
uklondoni can do both CarlFK05:27
p0windahsetite-SFD is certainly wise05:27
uklondonbut not at the moment im on putty from work05:27
wsmith.ubuntufaq05:27
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setite-SFDuklondon join #flood and paste the failures from the console in there05:27
CarlFKuklondon - setite-SFD got you covered05:27
uklondonok05:27
p0windahuklondon: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change uk.archive(I'm guessing) to us.archive05:27
wsmithmarc`, ubuntuguide.org05:27
Sundarhow can I install a package from .deb file ?05:27
ompaulsetite-SFD, if you use pastbin.ubuntulinux.nl then it lasts longer :)05:27
CarlFKsetite-SFD - how come whenI ask for a paste I get flack? ;)05:28
wsmithSundar, dpkg --instal <fn>05:28
wsmith--install05:28
setite-SFDyea changing to us... or no us at all perhaps...05:28
BelutzSundar: dpkg -i package.deb05:28
ompaulSundar, is it not available already for Ubuntu?05:28
setite-SFDoh your using marillat05:28
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setite-SFDhmmm yucj05:28
drapelykwhat is my groupname on a standard server install?05:28
uklondonp0windah, ok ill try that05:28
p0windahdrapelyk: pinky05:28
setite-SFDuklondon - i must ask what are you using marillat for05:28
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Sundarthanks05:28
uklondondunno05:29
drapelykp0windah really?05:29
uklondonim new to linux05:29
p0windahdrapelyk: j/k05:29
setite-SFDhes using marilla... there is no uk in them05:29
drapelykp0windah lol... I was gonna say...05:29
ompaulmarillet is not the way05:29
p0windahuklondon: I use hk.archive(in hong kong) and most countries has local repositories05:29
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setite-SFDuklondon what are you trying to get05:29
ompaulrestricted is the way to do that kind of thing05:29
uklondonwell alot of thing05:29
uklondons05:29
setite-SFDmarillat is no longer a necessary evil with backports and hoary-extras05:29
uklondonoriginaly linx05:29
uklondonor link205:29
uklondonor links05:29
drapelykAnyone: what is my groupname on a standard server install?05:30
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uklondonwhat do i nedd to change exsacltly05:30
ompaul!tell uklondon about restricted05:30
setite-SFDim in windoze atm... is links not on the backports or hoary-extras?05:30
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p0windahdrapelyk: groupname for what program ?05:30
CarlFKduh... what happened to libdvdcss2 ?05:30
setite-SFD!hoary-extras05:30
ubotuI heard hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted05:30
ompauluklondon, that link from the channel bot will help with codecs05:30
drapelykp0windah, i'm installing Apache2 and configuring the User and Group entries05:30
uklondonok paul05:30
CarlFKas in: E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate05:30
setite-SFD!tell uklondon about hoary-extras05:30
p0windahdrapelyk: i see, I think apache uses www-data ?05:31
p0windahsomeone correct me if I'm wrong ?05:31
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CarlFKp0windah - yer correct05:31
drapelykp0windah, right, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?highlight=%28MySQL%2905:31
pedri2im currently installing breezy preview release on a separate computer, what does LVM mean?05:31
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Sundarthanks guy... for helping me.05:32
Sundarthanks to all05:32
TheRepublici got a question05:32
p0windahdrapelyk: whats special about that page ?05:32
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mjrsetite-SFD, Hurd ;)05:32
p0windahsetite-SFD: BeOS calls to you05:32
dr_williswhy bother. :P05:32
TheRepublichow can i install the VLC player using the 5.10 PR  Live CD05:32
dr_willisCPM!05:32
drapelykYou may want your current user to be the PHP pages administrator. Search both the strings starting by "User" and "Group", and change the names by the current username and groupname you are using.05:33
setite-SFDsundar - what is suse like... i think i tried it for like a day... but that was a livecd i think...05:33
ompaulsetite-SFD, ubuntu - kubuntu - edubuntu ?05:33
setite-SFDompaul - nah one untu is enough :)05:33
setite-SFDompaul - im looking for a faster OS... particularly a 64bit os...05:33
TheRepublicanyone ?05:34
ompaulsetite-SFD, #gentoo out of the channel turn left third door on the right :)05:34
p0windahdrapelyk: I see05:34
kevorsetite-SFD: if you want a faster OS, install ubuntu SERVER and apt-get install xfce405:34
kevorperiod05:34
drapelykp0windah, I just don't know what to do05:34
setite-SFDompaul - thanks... im looking into them, and slamd6405:34
p0windahdrapelyk: what that means, is if you dont like the default username/password that apache is using; you can change it so something else05:34
mjrsetite-SFD, hmm, faster, 64-bit, hey, I know, Ubuntu/AMD6405:34
drapelykwhat does www-data mean?05:35
p0windahdrapelyk: but since I think you are new to this, leave it as is, since most howto's/guides will assume you have a default installation05:35
uklondonok i still have error05:35
p0windahdrapelyk: the user used for apache is "www-data" and the group is also called "www-data"05:35
ompaulTheRepublic, you can't keep it on that CD but you can burn the deb onto another disk if you have it, do this >>>> /msg ubotu tell me about synaptic05:35
lsuactiafnersetite-SFD : fastest is gentoo, most effort also. ubuntu is decent and least effort05:35
p0windahdrapelyk: unless you've got a very good reason to change it to another user and group, its fine to leave it be05:35
uklondoncan someone make me a  /etc/apt/sources.list file and paste it on pastebin.com05:35
setite-SFDmjr - thats what i have... but it has no speed over 32bit... firefox, OOo, and such still open same speed... in slamd64 i hear OOo opens in under 3 seconds on a 64bit cpu much slower than mine05:35
drapelykp0windah is that not a security issue?05:35
lsuactiafnersetite-SFD : gentoo is fastest non-commerical linux05:36
p0windahdrapelyk: its more of an issue if you use one of your desktop accounts actually05:36
drapelykok05:36
drapelykThanks05:36
p0windahuklondon: post your sources.list onto the site05:36
uklondonsetite-SFD, can you please check my lastest errors05:36
ompaulSundar I know those sources are out there, I can't find them, I have been looking, will continue to :)05:36
uklondonok05:36
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uklondoni can since im on putty05:36
lsuactiafnersetite-SFD : firefox is faster in 64bit, use it heavily, open around 200 tabs then switch tabs quickly05:36
uklondoncant805:36
lsuactiafneryou will see the difference05:37
uklondonoh wait05:37
uklondoni can05:37
uklondonmeh05:37
setite-SFDuklondon i seriously would avoid marillat if possible... its just not quality05:37
setite-SFDtry libdvdcss2 there... see how badly it decodes05:37
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uklondonhow can i take it off ?05:37
uklondoncan someone make me a  /etc/apt/sources.list file and paste it on pastebin.com05:37
setite-SFDput a # in front of all the lines on your sources.list05:37
uklondonok05:37
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setite-SFDin console sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list05:37
lsuactiafneri agree, those mplayer packages really suck, but unless you compile it yourself its best to use those packages05:37
trillijijoin #ubuntu-offtopic05:38
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Talkyhow can i modify or alter the chat script in modem05:38
Talkyi want to change the timeout setting05:39
uklondonsetite-SFD, http://pastebin.com/36638005:39
uklondonis thast right05:39
ompauluklondon, that looks good05:39
uklondonwow no errors05:40
uklondonty for help05:40
ompauluklondon, before you go05:40
uklondonyes05:40
uklondonim notleaving05:40
ompauluklondon, have a look at that page about restricted that uboto messaged you with eariler05:40
uklondonyes briefly05:41
uklondoni think everything is working ok now05:41
ompauluklondon,  the foot of that has a script in it that if you remove the first bit up to the actual package names it will look after all of that05:41
uklondonty all for you pleasant help05:41
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p0windahI barely helped, but I'll take pleasant05:42
ompaulTalky, have a look at pppconfig05:42
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uklondonompaul, im doing it right now ty05:42
mike23greetings05:42
ompaulmike23, hello05:43
mike23is there multiverse package fot brezy-badger?05:43
seliniumany hdparm gurus about?05:43
ompaulmike23, yes05:43
ompaulmike23, yes, if I understand you,05:43
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mike23well snaptic show a button for it but when i try to add it via gui notheing happens05:44
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uklondontheres alot of downloading on that script05:45
XKpehi05:45
uklondon:/05:45
XKpeon ddclient how can i get external ip from a usrobotics router?05:46
ompaulmike23, it works for me, I just added some repos05:46
CarlFKXKpe - try traceroute05:46
mike23I need the APt line?05:46
CarlFKXKpe - but Im guessing05:46
mike23Add repository address05:47
ompaulnano /etc/apt/sources.list05:47
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ompaulmike23,  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list05:47
setite-SFDnano eh05:47
ompaulmike23, to get out of that program you need Ctrl+O (letter o to write stuff) and Ctrl+X to exit05:48
ompaulsetite-SFD, you can only say that if your name is burns :)05:48
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uklondonjust a random question is .deb debian install pakages ?05:49
dr_willishmm. On one ubuntu install (5.10) the screen blanks and locks.. on the other machine. it dosent lock.  wonder if thats because one is a laptop - and some powersaver is kicking in05:49
mike23yes but no multiverse repository address in sources.list05:49
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ompauluklondon, yes, however don't add ones that are not specifically for your version of the OS or you will feel a pain that is sooooo sore05:49
Chadz0rhello, i have a problem with ubuntu live cd05:49
ompaulmike23, so add one :)05:49
uklondonlol ok05:49
Chadz0rit cannot find my modem, so i cant use a dial up connection05:50
Chadz0rwhat should i do?05:50
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ompaulChadz0r, ls /dev/modem does that return anything?05:50
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dr_willislook up your brand of modem - on google and see how well it has linux support. is also a good idea05:50
CarlFKis there a util to test a CDrom drive speed?05:51
Chadz0rit gives an error, something like check if it is connected properly05:51
Chadz0rautodetect doesn't find it, nor doesnt it work with any of the options given there05:51
ompaulChadz0r, how old is it?05:51
Chadz0rfrom 200305:51
ompaulChadz0r, so it really should not be dead yet :)05:52
uklondonwhat should i do to clean all the tmp files all at ones  ?05:52
Chadz0rwell i'm using it now with windows05:52
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Chadz0rits working with win05:52
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Juhazis it a winmodem?05:52
Chadz0ri just dont know, what to do with that Modem Port thingie05:52
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Chadz0rits COM3 on windows05:53
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stelkiIs there a way to "echo" stuff unto your gnome desktop? say I want "perl script.pl" written on my desktop, which program would I use?05:53
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ompaulChadz0r, it is most likely a win modem check its type for linux support as dr_willis suggested05:54
Chadz0rits something like pci softv92 modem05:55
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ElVirolohi again05:55
reffiehi, how do you right-click in ubuntu-ppc?05:55
magnon I'd say a weird combination of transparent xterms and tail -f would do it, stelki05:55
reffie(i have a powerbook)05:55
ElVirolora0 still isn't configured at boot up05:55
magnonapple-click?05:55
reffiemagnon you mean press cmd and click?05:56
mike23stelki: if you find the answer please email me05:56
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reffiemagnon if so, that doesn't work05:56
oolonreffie if you're using a mac it's usually control click05:56
magnonyeah05:56
reffieoolon that's how i do it it os x, but it doesn't work on ubuntu05:56
magnonI think that works on my powerbook05:57
magnonhavent been in ubuntu on it for long05:57
magnonyeah, ctrlclick doesnt work05:57
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oolonreffie, maybe check the mouse in control center to see if there is an option05:57
reffieoolon there isn't05:57
oolonthose bastards!05:58
ompaul!tell Chadz0r about winmodem05:58
Chadz0rompaul, could it be something like PCTEL 2304WT MDC V.92 in linux?05:58
ElViroloideas about how activating a network interface at boot time, anyone?05:58
z3r0xhi guys05:58
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z3r0xI have a problem with alsa. I can't start it without errors -> http://pastebin.com/36638705:58
ompaulElVirolo, it should happen automagically05:59
ElViroloompaul, well, it doesn't05:59
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Chadz0rhow does that help me then, if i know the name of the modem in linux?05:59
ompaulElVirolo, can you connect when the machine has booted?06:00
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BiSK-8hello06:00
TokenBadwell I found out why my computer was slowing down all the time06:00
mike23ompaul:thanks got what I needed by adjusting sources.list06:00
TokenBadits some file called gam_server06:00
ElViroloompaul, yes, but it have to activate it manually06:00
ElViroloI*06:00
BiSK-8can any1 tell me where 2 find the java plugin for ubuntu's firefox?06:00
Chadz0r:|06:00
ompaulChadz0r, the url that ubotu sent you will explain more about it06:01
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Chadz0rompaul, ubotu? i havent received anything from him06:01
ompaulubotu told Chadz0r about winmodem (extra, extra, read all about it, winmodem is To get started with winmodems on linux, see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/)06:01
ubotuompaul: what are you talking about?06:01
ElViroloideas anyone?06:02
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ompaulElVirolo, what kind of network connection is it?06:02
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ElViroloompaul, a wifi card (ra0)06:03
TokenBaddid some research on the file...and seems can kill it...then just rename the file...so it will not open again06:03
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TokenBadso hope that fixed the problem06:03
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TokenBadanyone else have have a problem with gam_server?06:03
mcscruffhow do i install install-crossover-standard-demo-4.2.sh06:03
ompaulElVirolo, what command doyou issue to bring up the conneciton?06:03
ElViroloompaul, in fact i use the network manager06:04
ElVirolooh, and i'm using breezy (but i used to have the same prob under hoary)06:04
ompaulElBarono, so you do this every time gksudo network-admin06:05
ElViroloompaul, yes06:05
GranMaestroHi ther everybody. I wonder if any of you has solved the yaboot installer bug with hoary/breezy ppc?06:05
ompaulElBarono, then how long does it take to get a connection?06:05
ompaulGranMaestro, was not under an impression there was such a beast06:05
ompaulElVirolo , then how long does it take to get a connection?06:06
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GranMaestroompaul: there is on an exteranl disk. Standard internal is OK06:06
ElViroloompaul, well, it's pretty much instant06:06
ccfieli cannot find this directory debian/config/ARCH/06:06
ElViroloeth0 gets configured at boot time, but not ra006:06
ompaulGranMaestro, I know nothing of using external disks06:06
ccfieli cannot find this directory debian/config/ARCH/ . where the wikki told me something about this? what shall i installed?06:07
GranMaestroompaul: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6401206:07
ompaulElVirolo, please put the contents of ifconfig in paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:07
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GranMaestroompaul: well thanks for answering any way06:08
BiSK-8can any1 tell me where 2 find the java plugin for ubuntu's firefox?06:08
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ompaulGranMaestro, and even more I know little of ppc Ive been using x86 since time began or 1980 :)06:09
Chadz0rompaul, i think my modem is a Winmodem chipset with "Linmodem" drivers type06:09
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GranMaestroompaul: I was using Apple ] [ at that time :-D06:09
ompaulChadz0r, so that web page will guide06:10
ElViroloompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/225606:10
ompaulGranMaestro, I remember doing that actually with dos V 1 on it oooh dear my brain :)06:10
ompaulElVirolo, the whole machine please :)06:11
neighborleeBiSK-8, http://ubuntuguide.org/ < go there and search for 'sun' and just follow directions , its fairly easy.06:11
LasseLBiSK-8, try sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so06:11
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mcscruffi cant install crossover office CAN anyone help06:11
Chadz0rompaul, so i need a driver for it?06:11
ompaulChadz0r, that would be the thing06:11
Chadz0rompaul, and i install it on windows or what?06:11
GranMaestroompaul: good al times, when things where real simple, they will never come back.. ;-)06:11
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airoxHi, SMP kernel in breezy broken ?06:12
ompaulChadz0r, GranMaestro  ElVirolo, have to do a job here back in a few06:12
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setite-SFDstupid windows wont let me resize C:06:12
setite-SFDpartition magic gives me error 983... too many errors found... wtf06:12
LasseLsetite-SFD, I belive you can resize from the installer06:12
setite-SFDi defragged many times06:12
mcscruffsetite-SFD, boot into a linux live ditro and use QTparted on it06:12
Snoblowercan i put ubuntu onto a CD-RW or does it have to be a CD-R?06:12
setite-SFDi will if i have to... but i wanna do it now.. before i download a distro06:13
airoxSnoblower, depends on your cdrom player.06:13
Chadz0rah the hell with it .>06:13
airoxs/player/device/06:13
airoxIf it supports CD-RW then you can.06:13
ElViroloompaul, ok06:13
setite-SFDguess a 3rd OS is not in the cards... this is lame06:13
drapelykAnyone: How do I move files to my server via SSH?06:13
airoxdrapelyk, use sftp.06:14
dr_willisor 'scp'06:14
drapelykairox: do I need to set anything up on the server?06:14
LasseLdrapelyk, you can even write sftp://username@server in nautilus06:14
airoxdrapelyk, Gnome can connect to it. Checkout Places -> Connect to server ...06:14
airoxdrapelyk, yep.06:14
LasseLdrapelyk, obviously a ssh server06:14
drapelyksudo apt-get install sftp?06:14
airoxdrapelyk, You should have something like subsystem /usr/bin/sftp-server or something like that06:14
drapelykI already have OpenSSH06:15
airoxin /etc/ssh/sshd_config06:15
airoxdrapelyk, I guess you can try it now. Normally it's enabled by default.06:15
drapelykk06:15
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drapelykairox, so what am I to do?06:16
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airox Checkout Places -> Connect to server ...06:17
airoxThe fill in the appropriate info.06:17
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erichbHi!06:18
airoxdrapelyk, as a alternave you can use sftp or scp in the command line interface.06:18
erichbCan anyone help me with a problem I'm having with the Nvidia proprietary driver?06:18
drapelykI want to use sftp06:18
airoxerichb, ask :)06:18
slepterichb, depends on the problem06:18
dr_willisheh - that ssh thing works nicely06:18
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sorush20is there a phrase for. I'll do what you advise.06:19
airoxdrapelyk, Places -> Connect to server ...06:19
dr_willisthat little  connect to server.. made an icon - it dident popup a window and connect. :P06:19
setite-SFDanyone use another distro besides ubuntu and besides windoze06:19
BiSK-8LasseL, wont work....u gave me the wrong sudo command06:19
dr_willisi just saw the icon on the desktop.06:19
airoxThen select SSH.06:19
sorush20My decision is at your discretion06:19
drapelykairox, ok06:19
erichbTYVM, I installed the driver using apt-get and then changed over to the 686-smp kernel and now I can't seem to get apt-get to build the driver for the new kernel. Maybe I'm to used to Gentoo?06:19
drapelykairox then what?06:19
dr_willissetite-SFD,  ive used many.06:19
christosshould rm parser.[^y] * delete file parser.ty?06:19
drapelykairox ok06:19
setite-SFDdr_willis - any that you feel are better than ubuntu in some aspects?06:20
drapelykairox my toolbar locked up any suggestions?06:20
dr_willischristos,  try the same wildcard with 'ls' and see what file names it prints out. is how i test that stuff06:20
dr_willissetite-SFD,  not really.06:20
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dr_willissetite-SFD,  they all got pros and cons.. and specific uses.. but over all ubuntu - is very very well done.06:20
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erichbI already tried 'apt-get remove nvidia-glx' and then 'apt-get install nvidia-glx' again.06:21
airoxerichb, you did the things mentioned on ubuntuguide.org ?06:21
MrFaberI have installed a new kernel (686) and still have the problem with hangs on cpu freq changes.06:21
slepterichb, its not the glx package its the kernelmodule you need06:21
airoxdrapelyk, locked up ?06:21
ElVirolo****************************************************************************************************06:22
slepterichb, you can build your own with module-assistant or just apt-get it06:22
drapelykairox the task bar is frozen, yeah06:22
erichbok... is there a guide somewhere for the kernelmodule?06:22
erichbapt-get what?06:22
drapelykairox Places is highlighted like I selected it, but it won't let me click anything06:22
airoxerichb, checkout ubuntuguide.org.06:22
erichbI don't mind using stock for now, I just swicthed from Gentoo to Ubuntu last night so I'm trying to play it safe for now.06:22
slepterichb, restricted modules , do you know about apt-cache search ?06:22
ElVirolo**************************************************************************************************************************************************06:22
sleptElVirolo, stop it06:22
erichbslept, barely.06:23
ompaulback06:23
airoxerichb, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver06:23
erichbsweet, I'll check that out... TY again.06:23
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[PG] _Sinnloshello06:23
slepterichb, just try apt-cache search nvidia06:24
[PG] _Sinnloshttp://pastebin.com/366420  <<my problem06:24
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Belutzwhy is everytime i plug my flash drive, ubuntu mount it as read only, how do i make it writable ?06:24
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airoxNobody knows anything about kernel panic with current SMP kernel on breezy ?06:24
darksatanicairox: amd64?06:25
airoxI have a dual xeon with hyperthreading on both cpu's.06:25
airoxBut It gives kernel panic with the kernel which i got from an update.06:25
airoxdarksatanic, no ;)06:26
darksatanicOK, not the problem I was thinking of, then.06:26
airoxdarksatanic, thanks anyway :)06:26
TokenBadanyone else have have a problem with gam_server?06:26
airoxI'm booted with the default kernel (386) now.06:26
sleptTokenBad, that you have to kill it to be able to eject a cd ?06:26
airoxIt also updated but it works OK.06:26
TokenBadno...06:27
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TokenBadthis is a file that was eating up resources06:27
drapelykback06:27
TokenBadand why my pc was running so slow06:27
drapelykAirox: back06:27
ElViroloompaul, did you have a look at my ifconfig output ?06:27
airoxdrapelyk, welcome back :)06:27
TokenBadthe longer it ran the more it ate06:27
ompaulElVirolo, yeap I had wanted it all :)06:27
drapelykAirox I have done that Connect to Server things before using SSH, it does not allow me to transfer files though?06:27
ElViroloompaul, oh, with lo too ?06:28
erichbok... it looks as though if I install linux-restricted-modules-686-smp then that should solve the problem?06:28
mjrdrapelyk, it does06:28
ompaulElVirolo,  and ethX06:28
airoxdrapelyk, You can browse the remote server though ?06:28
drapelykairox: correct06:28
ElViroloompaul, eth0 is not configured anyway, i don't use it on the laptop06:28
airoxdrapelyk, do you have rights on the remote server to transfer files (e.g.: write permission on the dir) ?06:28
drapelykI guess not, how do I get them?06:29
TokenBadslept, I started running this monitor program on cpu and stuff...and just about all the time it would pop up about this program eating up over 85% of my cpu usage06:29
airoxdrapelyk, using chmod.06:29
ompaulElVirolo,  you said it was up first eariler iirc06:29
drapelykairox ?06:29
drapelykairox do I not want write persmission on the entire drive?06:29
airoxdrapelyk, you don't know chmod ?06:29
ompaulElVirolo, okay hang about a momement I want to look at something06:29
ElViroloompaul, well, when it is configured/activated in network-admin, it *does* get activated at boot time ... but i've deactivated it now since i dfon't use it06:30
drapelykairox: nope06:30
ElViroloompaul, ok :)06:30
airoxdrapelyk, your first linux server ? :)06:30
MrFaberDoes somebody how to disable cpu frequency changing in ubuntu? I would prefer the ondemand governor since I haven't had any problems with it.06:30
drapelykairox yes06:31
sleptTokenBad, thats not the problem I had , I remember there is an entry in the wiki that should fix sth, for me it didn't so have a try06:31
ompaulElVirolo, fire up the network manager06:31
airoxdrapelyk, I guess you need to checkout man chmod then. Maybe you should get a book or find some articles about basic linux things like how the rights work in linux.06:31
airoxdrapelyk, I can't help you learn everything. Sorry.06:31
TokenBadI just renamed the file06:32
TokenBadI took the gam_server and renamed it gam_server.old06:32
TokenBadso it wouldn't run06:32
ElViroloompaul, yup06:32
ompaulElVirolo, down the bottom what does it say is default?06:32
stelki_anybody know how to use colours in a terminal?06:33
ompaulElVirolo, down the bottom what does it say is default gateway device?06:33
setite-SFDanyone uses Yoper06:33
ompaulsetite-SFD, this is #ubuntu #yoper is somewhere else06:33
ElViroloompaul, ra006:34
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ompaulElVirolo, click on properties06:34
setite-SFDompaul - aware of that... just asking if anyone has tried it06:34
setite-SFDused*06:34
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apsynchi, how can I remove something from the startup?06:34
ElViroloompaul, yup06:34
sleptTokenBad, thats not the way to fix things thats the way to break them06:34
[Wiebel] apt-get install rcconf06:34
[Wiebel] and run rcconf06:34
apsyncand where is rcconf?06:35
[Wiebel] that's for apsync06:35
ompauldoes it say (A) enabled (b) the device name is ra0 and (c) the config is dhcp ?06:35
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ompaulElVirolo,  does it say (A) enabled (b) the device name is ra0 and (c) the config is dhcp ?06:35
TokenBadslept, I did research online about it first..and seems the people that did that hasn't had any negagtive effects from it06:35
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apsyncwiebel where is rcconf , in a specific folder?06:35
BiSK-8'lo06:35
BiSK-8again06:36
BiSK-8can u ppl tell me a good textt editor that i can open .class files with ?06:36
BiSK-8text*06:36
Tomcat_BiSK-8: .class files are binary files... there's nothing to read in there.06:36
ElViroloompaul,  and (b) are true but i use static address (but the prob is the same with dhcp, i still have to activate it manually)06:36
[PG] _Sinnloshttp://pastebin.com/366420  <<my problem06:36
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[Wiebel] apsync: its a binairy06:36
apsyncoh06:36
[Wiebel] just install it and run it06:36
apsyncjust in terminal06:36
apsyncah ok thank you06:36
[Wiebel] yes06:36
Tomcat_BiSK-8: But of course you can use less, vi, emacs, pico, nano, gedit, kate, ...06:37
ompaulElVirolo, the static address info is in there?>06:37
BiSK-8gedit wont work tomcat06:37
erichbworked like a charm, thanks all.06:37
Tomcat_BiSK-8: Yeah, it doesn't like binary files sometimes. But why would you want to read class files anyway?06:37
ElViroloompaul, yes06:37
BiSK-8personal matters... :D06:37
tscherlerhi all06:38
ompaulElVirolo, and the obvious little check box is checked?06:38
tscherlerI am updating my system to 5.0406:38
tscherlerI read an article that talked about changng an entry in gnome-config to enable import06:38
tscherler but I cannot find it anymore06:38
tscherlersomebody has an idea?06:38
ompaulElVirolo, you got a gateway and subnet there?06:38
apsyncWiebel, everytime I start ubuntu, Gaim loads 2 times, and it does not appear in that list in rcconf06:38
Tomcat_BiSK-8: Most editors that don't try to detect encoding will do it... just install whatever you like. :)06:39
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[Wiebel] ah06:39
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[Wiebel] apsync: you ment gnome06:39
ElViroloompaul, yup06:39
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apsyncthat msn client06:39
[Wiebel] apsync: system -> prefs -> sessions06:39
[Wiebel] check the tab: startup programs06:39
[Wiebel] and if it's not there06:39
[Wiebel] try killing gaim06:40
apsyncnope its not there06:40
apsyncok06:40
[Wiebel] and then log uit and save the session06:40
ompaulElVirolo, okay here is what I would do06:40
tscherlerha/me looking for a good evolution update link06:40
tscherlerwhere I can find how to import my 2.0.2 data into 2.1*06:41
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setite-SFDdoes GRUB automatically update the OSs?06:42
[Wiebel] ?06:42
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[Wiebel] what do you mean06:42
setite-SFDi notice it adds new kernels for ubuntu but what if i installed xp64... or even ubuntu32 also06:42
[Wiebel] ?06:43
[Wiebel] i still don't understand you06:43
setite-SFDim not speaking to you wiebel06:43
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[Wiebel] ok, suit yourself06:43
ElViroloompaul, what would you do?06:43
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firsttimerwhere do i find my system log?06:44
ompaulElVirolo, I am gone searching for a script file - sorry back in  moment06:44
[Wiebel] /var/log06:44
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tucatsthanks06:44
[Wiebel] sure06:44
=== tscherler to import my contacts and mails and filter from older version to new version
ElViroloompaul, ok no prob, thks :)06:44
StyXmanI'm about to jump to breeezy. I already read the upgrade notes, and aren't as scary as I spected. so, did anoyne tried it lately? any suggestions before I break Hell loose (TM)?06:44
sleptsetite-SFD, do update-grub06:44
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apsyncwiebel, still comes back, but now 3 times lol06:44
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apsyncgonna try 1 more thing06:45
tucatswiebel, what file am i looking for?06:45
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[Wiebel] syslog06:45
[Wiebel] apokryphos: that's odd06:45
tucatstks again06:45
[Wiebel] er06:45
drapelykairox: you still there?06:45
[Wiebel] hm06:45
airoxdrapelyk, yes.06:45
slepttscherler, did you try  file >import...06:45
drapelykI changed the file permission that was easy, but it still will not transfer files06:45
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drapelykit gives me a Generic Error06:46
airoxdrapelyk, changed permission on the dir also ?06:46
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airoxdrapelyk, hmm ..06:46
airoxDon't know about that error.06:46
[Wiebel] apokryphos: are you sure you killed al gaim instances and you saved the session while logging out ?06:46
drapelyki did 'chmod -w -R www'06:46
tscherleryes but "old evolution" is not an option, only outlook, mozilla, ...06:46
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Cilmerongood day06:46
airoxdrapelyk, better watch out with -R06:47
drapelykshould change all of the files within and including folder www to write06:47
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slepttscherler, maybe there is no difference between old and new have a try06:47
BockBilboSOS Im in a really hurry.... ive messed up with the partitions and now the partition table is broken... i cant access to my data partition... can anyone help me??? Im running the breezy preview live cd06:47
Cilmeroni have a question about the kubuntu live-on-cd06:47
BockBilbogparted doesnt show up the partitions06:47
drapelykairox, I know it's a small folder06:47
Cilmeronis there any way to activate su in it?06:47
Cilmeronas user ubuntu it06:47
Cilmeronis impossible to mount a device06:47
ompaulElVirolo, before I make a suggestion what is the result of this in terms of file names only, >> ls -l /etc/network/run  <<06:47
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tscherleryes if I copy ~/.evlution/ from my old to new I still get the wiyard06:47
Cilmeronvery bad thing for a live cd I think06:47
ompaul!tell Cilmeron about mount06:48
BleckityBleckHey everyone, quick question... my computer won't mount DVDs... ive downloaded libdvdcss, and it mounts regular CDs perfectly fine, but even when i try to mount it manually it says to specify a filesystem... any ideas?06:48
dr_willisCilmeron,  i used 'sudo passwd' in the past to set the root password - so you could thebn 'su -' to root06:48
dr_willisCilmeron,  or use 'sudo xterm'06:48
ompaul!tell Cilmeron about root06:48
dr_willisbut on a Live cd... not sure - normally the consoles are allready logged in as root06:48
ompaulCilmeron, those two things that ubotu told you about should be good06:48
drapelykairox, how do you check for file permissions?06:48
ElViroloompaul, -rw-r--r--  1 root root 6 2005-09-17 17:51 ifstate06:48
Cilmeronhm I06:48
Cilmeronve got to check that out06:49
airoxdrapelyk, ls -l06:49
airoxdrapelyk, i have to go now ..06:49
Cilmeronthanks and see ya ;)06:49
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[Wiebel] apsync: does it work now?06:49
drapelykairox, k06:49
ompaulElVirolo, okay if you do this >> cat ifstate << does it mention ra0=ra0 ?06:49
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apsyncyes, I did not save the settings before logging out06:50
apsyncwas wondering what that was though :)06:50
[Wiebel] of course it is :P06:50
ElViroloompaul, ha, no, only lo=lo06:51
sleptBleckityBleck, did you try to play it with xine or mplayer ?06:51
ElViroloompaul, should i change it to ra0=ra0 ?06:51
ompaulElVirolo, no do not replace try putting it in there06:51
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ElViroloompaul, ok06:51
ompaulElVirolo, use >>sudo nano ifstate<<06:52
mik3Seveas are you here Mr. Man06:52
BleckityBleckslept: just try to open up the /dev/cdrom0 in xine/mplayer?06:52
BleckityBleckslept: i haven't tried playing it, as its not mounted06:52
ompaulElVirolo, when done Ctrl+O Ctrl+X (write and exit)06:52
ElViroloompaul, yup done06:52
ompaulElVirolo, then there is only one test06:53
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sleptBleckityBleck, you dont have to mount it live vcds just click on dvd and then play (for xine) mplayer should be the same06:53
ElViroloompaul, let me change runlevels ... brb :)06:53
BleckityBleckslept: ahhh, alright... well theoretically though, what if i wanted to view the filesystem?06:53
ompaulElVirolo, choose init 606:54
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apsyncI have downloaded Azureus now, it was compressed, I decompressed all files to my desktop, readme says run with ./azureus, first time it made a folder .Azureus/, can't I install this or move it to /etc/ or something, cus I dont like a full desktop with files06:54
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DerTeufelhow can I get the "open terminal" in context menu (right mouse key) on desktop in breezy (gnome)?06:55
apsyncor better, make a clickable shortcut06:55
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tucatswhere does ubunt mount my fat32 partitions?06:55
sleptDerTeufel,  ALT +F2 , xterm06:56
tucatsits in media right?06:56
tucatsor dev/hda06:56
lordprotectordoes anyone else have problems where their wireless card decides to change SSIDs to some random, not-you-own secure network (where obviously you can't do anything) and then refuse to let you connect to any other SSID?06:56
DerTeufelyeah I can open it so, but with 5.04 I could just right click and say "open terminal"06:56
BleckityBleckanother question, when i try to install gstreamer0.8-lame (or any of the gstreamer stuff) i get " Depends: liblame0 (>=3.96.1-1) but it is not installable"06:56
ompaultucats, it will be a dev mounted in a media06:56
tucatsompaul, so /dev/meda/partionname or something?06:57
tucatser media...06:57
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stelki_Anybody know how to prevent amsn from opening windows randomly?06:57
BleckityBleckand xine/mplayer... is there a repository i have to add for them?06:57
ompaultucats, no /dev/somedisk (hda) /media/someword06:57
BleckityBleck(nvm, my bad, forgot to comment out universe :P)06:57
DerTeufelmount -t ntfs -o uid=BENUTZERNAME /dev/hda1 /media/windows_c ... is for mounting pats ... so I think you can mount it wherever you say it should mount it :)06:58
ompaultucats, raw device mounted directory06:58
tucatsompaul well its not in my /media directory06:58
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tucatsso i guess that leaves /dev06:58
ompaultucats, no that is for devices06:58
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DerTeufelit mounts under media06:59
ompaultucats, read this  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab06:59
DrDataCan proftpd convert dirs on the fly to a .tar.bz2 file?06:59
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jc-dentonhi all07:00
jc-dentonhow does swsups work in breezy?07:00
dr_willisjc-denton,  :P it dident work very well for me at all.07:00
jc-dentonim able to susp the sys by doing $ echo disk > /sys/power/state07:00
jc-dentonbut i cannot resume07:00
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dr_willisPc went into hibernation.... and dident want to wake up. :P07:00
tucatsompaul, thats a handy script07:01
jc-dentonyes07:01
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jc-dentonu have to give the swap parition as option for the kernel afaik07:01
apsyncI have downloaded Azureus now, it was compressed, I decompressed all files to my desktop, readme says run with ./azureus, first time it made a folder .Azureus/, can't I install this or move it to /etc/ or something, cus I dont like a full desktop with files07:01
apsyncor better, make a clickable shortcut07:01
jc-dentonlike resume=/dev/hda307:01
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jc-dentonbut it did not work for me07:01
jc-dentonwell i'm afk07:01
mik3no way beavith07:02
jc-dentonif somebody knows please write07:02
dr_willisapsync,  may want to check the ubuntu wikis on that program.07:02
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ElVirolohi again07:02
ElViroloompaul, i still have to activate it manually :(07:02
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apsynchmm07:02
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tscherlerwhat is the gnome tool to configure the install applications?07:02
mik3what?07:03
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mik3you talking about synaptec?07:03
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tscherlerme, no07:04
tscherlerlike reg edit07:04
DerTeufelhow to play mp3s??07:04
mik3hehe regedit07:04
ElVirolotscherler, gconf07:04
tucatsso, for old dos games should i use dosbox or do you think wine might work better?07:04
lordprotectordoes anyone else have problems where their wireless card decides to change SSIDs to some random, not-you-own secure network (where obviously you can't do anything) and then refuse to let you connect to any other SSID until you restart?07:05
dr_williswine is not for DOS games07:05
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dr_willis:P07:05
dr_willisdosbox works very good for me for the old dos games however.07:05
tscherlergconf-editor thx ElVirolo07:06
ElVirolotscherler, NP :)07:06
BleckityBleckI can't play DVDs... i installed libdvdcss2, but xine says theres no CD in the drive, and i can't mount it...07:06
sorush20how do I fix these character problems http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i225907:07
apokryphos[Wiebel] : heh, always check your tab-completion ;-)07:07
sleptBleckityBleck, you might have to create a link for /dev/dvd or change settings in xine07:07
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BleckityBleckslept : it says no plugin enabled, is that something that needs to be configure in xine?07:08
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sleptno07:08
=== tscherler found the mail :) http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2005-February/msg00052.html
ElViroloompaul, have you got any ideas ? ianyway, i thank you very much for your help :)07:08
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BleckityBleckslept: and ive changed the source correctly... and it says no cd in the source drive (which is /dev/dvdrw)07:09
tucatsis there a package for dosbox because i downloaded the source and I am having trouble compiling it07:09
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slept!search07:10
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ubotumethinks search is System>Administration>Synaptic, has a search function. Command line are apt-cache search "packagename", or aptitude search "packagename"07:10
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Sphere_finI just finished torrenting the DVD live-cd .iso.  I burned it to a DVD like a regular image using Nero's "burn image to disk" option.  When I leve the DVD in my drive and set "IDE Cd-ROM device" as my only boot method in BIOS it just goes on to say "boot failure".  My DVD drive is a writer, and a slave. In BIOS it is recognied as "IDE CD device" on channel "1". Any suggestions?07:10
pc22how do i share my printer? i want to share it with windows07:10
sleptBleckityBleck, maybe you have to dpkg-reconfigure xine07:10
tucatsno package in the ubuntu repositories07:10
tritiumpc22, with samba07:10
tritiumor cups07:10
ElVirolo$*********************************mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm07:11
tritiumSphere_fin, did you check the md5sum prior to burning the image?07:11
ElVirolommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm07:11
ElVirolommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm07:11
ElViroloso sorry07:11
ompaulElVirolo, try a reboot and bring up a console and type >> ifup ra0 << and if that does not work I am at a loss if it does we can turn it into a script that goes in the boot up07:11
Sphere_finno07:11
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pc22im new: how exactly can i do it. my win98 box cant see any printer07:11
jjazz_It seems like Ubuntu overwrites /etc/hosts at certain times (bootup and some other time).  What's the Ubuntu way to get a static ip (as opposed to the Debian way, which obviously isn't working)?07:11
tucatspc22 id say that is a problem with win9807:12
ElViroloompaul, yeah i tried that07:12
Sphere_finhow do I check it in windows?07:12
ompaulElVirolo,  and does it07:12
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ElViroloompaul, i think making a script would be the best solution07:12
tritiumpc22, easiest way is to "sudo apt-get install samba"07:12
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pc22thats07:12
ElViroloompaul, it does work07:12
BleckityBleckslept : nope, didn't work... maybe im just destined to not have DVD playback :/07:12
pc22samba is a server right?07:12
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tritiumSphere_fin, if you google for md5sum.exe, you should fine a program you can download07:12
erichbhello, I'm back and now I have a v4l question.07:13
tritiumpc22, there are both server and client packages07:13
ompaulElVirolo, good okay let me rip a nice sample one and give it back to you :) I can't remember how the numbers get allotted hi to low or low to higg07:13
jjazz_pc22, yep.  Although when I think of Samba, I also think of the clients (smbclient, mntsmb)07:13
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sleptBleckityBleck, are you sure about your /dev/... , that it exists ?07:13
ElViroloompaul, ok great thanks :)07:14
BleckityBleckwell, when i put in a regular cd which mounts fine, its mounted from /dev/hda1... which doesn't work07:14
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ElViroloompaul, but why doesn't ubuntu do that automatically ?07:14
tritiumBleckityBleck, have you installed the necessary packages for dvd playback?07:14
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BleckityBleckslept : and i know /dev/dvdrw worked before07:14
BleckityBlecktritium : yes07:14
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Sphere_finthanks, and should I just burn the iso like any other iso? do i hav to make it bootable?07:14
BleckityBlecktritium : unless theres something else than libdvdcss207:14
tritiumBleckityBleck, which?07:14
tritiumYes, that's what you need, from hoary-extras07:15
tritiumWhat seems to be the problem, BleckityBleck07:15
tritium?07:15
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BleckityBleckwhen i try to mount the DVD though, it doesn't moutn either...07:15
BleckityBleckit says i need tos pecify a filesystem07:15
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pc22tritium, what do i do with it? how can my win pc see my printer?07:15
tritiumdid you try udf, BleckityBleck ?07:16
setite-SFDlibdvdcss2.. or on 64bit you need to run the installcss.sh or somethign like that included with libdvdread307:16
BleckityBleckand cdfs didn't work, never had a problem like this =( always auto-mounted... and in xine, when i hit DVD, it says "no plugin to handle DVD:/"07:16
BleckityBleckno 64bit07:16
BleckityBleckudf?07:16
tritiumubotu, tell pc22 about samba07:16
tritiumBleckityBleck, dvd file format07:16
BleckityBleckudftools package?07:16
flodine~/part07:17
ompaulElVirolo, do you have a /etc/init.d/ifupdown ?07:17
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silverton!tell pc22 about samba07:17
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tritiumno, when you try to mount, use the udf filesystem, BleckityBleck07:17
BleckityBleckahhh07:17
neilcit seems there is no valgrind package for 5.1007:17
tritiumI did, silverton07:17
neilcam i missing something, or is there not one? (neither in main or in universe)07:17
silvertonahh, works your way too eh?  didn't know ;P07:17
ElViroloompaul, yes07:17
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tritiumsilverton, I mean that I had ubotu tell pc22 about samba07:18
tucatswhats alien for?07:18
silvertontritium, yeah, I didn't know it worked the way you typed it07:18
tritiumconverting .rpm to .deb, tucats07:18
silvertonneilc, I see it07:18
tritium:)07:18
pc22thanks for the support07:18
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tucatshow do you install .deb packages?07:18
BleckityBleckwrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock...07:18
tucatsmanually07:18
Will^Dravenhow do i end my x session and get to a console?07:18
tritium!info valgrind07:18
ubotuvalgrind: (A memory debugger for x86-linux), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:2.2.0-4 (hoary), Packaged size: 1782 kB, Installed size: 5084 kB07:18
tucats!info alien07:19
BleckityBleckis there a way to check the mount with a regular cd, that doesn't come up with /dev/hda1... (thats what mount reports when a regular cd is in there)07:19
ubotualien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.50 (hoary), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 288 kB07:19
tritiumBleckityBleck, a data CD, yes.  They're usually iso966007:19
sleptBleckityBleck, change the device maybe the link for dvdrw disapeard07:19
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silvertonneilc, I'm running breezy, and it's in the development section07:19
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BleckityBlecktritium : not the filesystem, the /dev point... when i check mount with a data cd in, it says its mounted from /dev/hda1...07:20
LeeColletonWhat are the dpkg selections for Breezy?  My system has too much cruft upon it.07:20
darkhearttucats dpkg -i <package>07:20
tucatsis debian woody an older vesion of debian07:20
tritiumneilc, have you done a "sudo apt-get update"?  You can't see any packages until apt knows what's out there...07:20
jjazz_tucats, yes07:20
tritiumyes, tucats07:20
BleckityBlecki just assume its /dev/dvdrw because... thats what it was last time i installed ubuntu... and i have a dvdrw07:20
tucatshow old?07:20
pc22ubuntu is cool with dependencies wow07:21
silvertontucats, like, 7 years07:21
jjazz_tucats, Um... very07:21
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silvertonespecially with the way debian does point releases >.<07:21
tucatssilverton, so an old woody package will work with ubuntu? hopefully?07:21
tritiumpc22, that's the beauty of debian-based distros ;)07:21
neilctritium: well, i can see a ton of packages, just not valgrind :)07:21
sleptBleckityBleck, ls  -l /dev/ |grep dvd07:21
Will^Dravenis there a way to end my x session and get to a console?07:21
tritiumtucats, you should not mix debian and ubuntu packages07:21
silvertontucats, um..  maybe?  But why not use an updated one?07:21
tritiumWill^Draven, if you're in a pinch, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace07:21
dell500anyone know of a free pic host??07:21
BleckityBleckdvd -> /dev/hda dvdrw -> /dev/hda07:22
neilc% dpkg -p valgrind07:22
jjazz_tucats, in general, I think that's a bad assumption, and I wouldn't just install it07:22
neilcPackage `valgrind' is not available.07:22
tucatssilverton, there is no package that is updated, the latest is only source and I dont know how to get it to compile07:22
silvertontritium, last I checked, that just restarts the X server07:22
regeyawhat is valgrind...hm.07:22
tritiumsilverton, yes, that's why I said "in a pinch"07:22
silvertonregeya, memory debugger07:22
silvertontritium, he wants to go to console though07:22
dell500how easy is it to make a server to just host stuff?? with high security07:22
tucatssilverton, ./configure creates an error so i cant make it07:22
BleckityBleckstill can't mount it though, udf doesn't work as the filetype... does it matter that this is a retail DVD07:22
ompaulElVirolo, do this sudo nano /etc/rc5.d/S99netmenow07:23
tritiumtucats, which package are you building?07:23
jjazz_dell500, Um.... get a Debian stable release and keep up with security upgrades07:23
darkheartdell500 Security is one of those things that can be as hard as you want to make it.07:23
tucatstritium, dosbox, this is what i am looking at http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/download.php?main=107:23
silvertonmy security is my router >.<  rofl07:23
ElViroloompaul, yup07:23
tritiumtucats, 0.63 in breezy07:23
dell500k, well i just want to make a server to host some pics so i don't have to get an account with anyone07:23
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darkheartdell500 I doubt you need 'high security' for something like that.07:24
tucatstritium, ther are a couple rpm packages avail and the source07:24
dell500well ya, i know07:24
ompaulElVirolo, then enter the following text from between the arrows  >>>>ifup ra0<<<<<<<<< then CTRL+O and CTRL+X and that will write the file07:24
tucatstritium, version 0.63 is in breazy?07:24
dell500but enough security i guess07:24
tritiumWill^Draven, normally, you switch to virtual consoles with Ctrl-Alt-F#, where # is the virtual console number07:24
tritiumtucats, yes07:24
sleptdell500, you collect porn ?07:24
jjazz_dell500, Just don't run any services except what you need to serve the pics07:24
Will^Dravengah, that just logged me out and brought me back to the gnome login07:24
Will^Draveni know how to switch to a virtual console, but i want x to not be running07:24
tucatstritium what are the repositores for those packages?07:24
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silvertonWill^Draven, sudo killall gdm07:24
tritiumWill^Draven, then when you switch to the console, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop07:25
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jjazz_Will^Draven, /etc/init.d/gdm stop07:25
Will^Draventhanks07:25
silvertonor...  my way :P07:25
ElViroloompaul, ok let me reboot07:25
ElVirolol07:25
ompaulElVirolo, that is a little ugly but07:25
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jjazz_silverton, will gdm go down nice if you do that?07:25
ompaulElVirolo, lets tidy it up a little first07:25
ompaulokay lets not :)07:25
tritiumjjazz_, no07:25
MrFaberWhere can I set hdparm commands so set they run on every startup?07:26
tucatstritium, where is it, its not in synaptic with a search07:26
jjazz_tritium, Is there a way to use kill to tell a program to go down nice?07:26
IcemanV9MrFaber: /etc/hdparm.conf07:26
MrFaberthanks07:26
pc22tritium, can i pm u for sec. will just show something07:26
tritiumtucats, are you running breezy?07:26
tucatstritium 5.1 is breezy right thats what i have the preview07:27
tritiumjjazz_, yes, take a look at the manpage07:27
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tritiumtucats, 5.1007:27
dell500jjazz_, ok, what stuff might i need for a low end server like that07:27
dell500slept, no, it's for LJ and some other stuff, just pics i take with my digi07:27
tritiumjjazz_, but in general, you should use the initscripts to stop them07:28
annexI have installed Ubuntu 5.04 on a partition to test it before switching.  So far I love it except Xorg performance seems rather poor.  Currently using Xfree86 on gentoo resizing of windows, scrolling in firefox etc. is much smoother than using Xorg on ubuntu. Using 'top', I've noticed Xorg uses about 20-30% more of my cpu than Xfree86 does when simply scrolling the same website in firefox, or resizing a gaim chat window.  I have a dual monitor s07:28
tucatstritium, yes that is what i am running07:28
sleptdell500, just a stupid joke07:28
jjazz_tritium, I've looked at the man page, and the piece of info I'm missing is that I don't know which signal tells a program to go down nice07:28
tritiumtucats, what does apt-cache policy dosbox tell you?07:28
darkheartannex What video card?07:28
jjazz_dell500, How do you want to serve the pics?  In a web page?  Or over FTP?07:28
dell500slept, i know :), but i might as well let you know since you were curious07:29
tucatstritium, hang on one, i am updateing all the repositoreis07:29
dell500jjazz_, on a webpage, for my livejournal and facebook stuff07:29
tritiumtucats, good plan07:29
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dell500i just don't want to get an account with some stupid site that gives me adds like a mofo07:29
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annexannex: am I using? Nvidia Geforce 2 GTS and ATI Rage II+.  is slowed?  both of them but the ATI card is a bit worse07:29
jjazz_dell500, You'll want to have a web server and maybe ssh so you can get into the box and config things remotely, but aside from that, nothing different from a base install.07:30
darkheartannex You need to install the correct drivers.07:30
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Will^Dravenok, that worked, but what i was trying to do after that didnt >.<07:30
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darkheart!tell annex about ati07:30
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annexdarkheart: as far as I can tell they are correct07:30
tucatstritium, i didnt have community maintaind packages so it must be in there07:30
tucatsi found it07:30
darkheartannex What drivers are they using?07:30
Will^Draveni think im just going to wipe the drive and install hoary07:30
tritiumtucats, it's in universe07:30
tritiumWill^Draven, what are you trying to do?07:31
dell500jjazz_, is there a certain app or something for the server stuff??07:31
tritiumreinstalling is generally not required07:31
tucatstritium, right i added those packages to my repository list07:31
tritiumtucats, okay, good07:31
LeeColletondpkg selections?  anyone?  Buller?07:31
annexdarkheart: nvidia is using the binary 'nvidia' driver, and the ati card is using 'ati' when I set it in xorg.conf07:31
dell500jjazz_, is there a way to host just a folder for a site and use that as a link for the pics?07:31
darkheartannex That ATI card of yours is pretty old?07:31
annexannex: oh yeah07:32
tritiumLeeColleton, what does your question mean?07:32
IcemanV9Will^Draven: reinstalling is the option for win platform only ;)07:32
jjazz_dell500, Most people use apache, but if you're just serving some pics, you probably don't need something as complex as apache.  Maybe thttpd or bozohttpd would do it.07:32
neilctritium: ah, perhaps there is no amd64 package yet07:32
jjazz_dell500, I don't understand your last question.  What do you mean use that as a link for the pics?07:32
annexdarkheart: did the job in Xfree though\07:32
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Will^Dravenget my sound to work, i have a riptide card, the linuxant drivers dont work on a 2.6 kernel, OSS wont install, the rc of ALSA that has riptide drivers just hates me, lol07:32
tritiumneilc, I'm sorry, remind me what you're looking for again please?07:32
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darkheartannex Hmm..Sorry then, I'm not sure what it could be.07:33
neilctritium: a valgrind package for 5.1007:33
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neilctritium: but yeah, it must be amd64, valgrind was just ported to amd64 recently07:33
tritiumneilc, that must be it, because I see that it's available in breezy's main repo07:34
neilctritium: thanks, i'll just use sourcwe07:34
ksmurfhello all.... I have some wireless questions.  I just bought a TravelMate 2310 laptop and wiped XP from it before I started.  I couldn't get my wireless up at first so I tried ndiswarpper.  It seemed to work with no problems BUT I noticed on reboot that MadWifi had taken over (Breezy Rocks!!!).  I configured my WEP but I have to deactivate and reactivate upon reboot.  Is this normal? Is there someway I can fix it?07:34
DiffindoWhat whould I need to burn an ISO to CD in Ubuntu Hoary?07:34
tritiumneilc, all right :)07:34
LeeColletontritium: what are the standard dpkg selections for Breezy?  I can't find them listed anywhere.  I'm trying to use dpkg --set-selections to slim down my system.07:34
dell500jjazz_, say i have a picture blah.jpg, i'd like to just be able to stick the link into my journal (ie:  ip/blah.jpg)07:34
tritiumDiffindo, nautilus can do that07:34
Will^Dravensooo, any bright ideas other than say screw breezy and install hoary?07:34
annexdarkheart: thanks anyhow, any way to find out what the exact driver xorg is using when I tell it to use 'ati' ?07:34
DiffindoThanks07:35
tscherlerdoes somebody knows the evolution chanell07:35
DiffindoStill getting used to this...07:35
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kuruhello people07:35
jjazz_dell500, is the computer on a static ip?07:35
tritiumWill^Draven, you've already tried breezy?  Downgrading to hoary won't make much sense07:35
kuruI got this really weird problem with an HP Color LJ 3550N printer07:35
Will^Dravenim on breezy now07:35
DiffindoI downloading *cough* something else, I may just get a dual-boot going someday07:35
Will^Draventhe linuxant drivers for my card have a .deb build for hoary07:36
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kuruI have Debian etch and it works nicely with it.. but on Ubuntu Hoary, it seems to keep coming up with "Chosen personality is not available" on the printer07:36
ksmurfDiff It works great as a triple boot07:36
talkyis there any utitily in ubuntu to search for files07:36
DiffindoI want to get a few Intel 370Pin systems and make a linux cluster07:36
kuruI even tried to copy the PPD off of the Debian box into the Ubuntu one, but still came up with the same problem07:36
kuruany ideas?07:36
tritiumWill^Draven, what's the package name?07:36
DiffindoHow well does Ubuntu work as a file server?07:36
ksmurftalky yes locate07:36
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talkyoh thnx ksmurf07:36
ksmurfDiffindo great07:37
slepttalky,  try apropos search07:37
DiffindoAwesome07:37
Diffindo!servers07:37
ubotuDiffindo: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?07:37
Diffindo...07:37
jjazz_Diffindo, I'm using one as a file server right now.07:37
ksmurftalky in the Gui in the places menu there is a "search for files" button07:37
DiffindoIs it easy to set up?07:37
jjazz_Diffindo, I have no complaints, but I never stress the box07:37
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DiffindoWell...07:37
dell500jjazz_, i don't think so...07:38
talkythnx ksmurf :)07:38
dell500i'm pretty sure it isn't07:38
ksmurf I configured my WEP but I have to deactivate and reactivate upon reboot.  Is this normal? Is there someway I can fix it?07:38
DiffindoI wanted to make a separate box for my music, games, etc07:38
jjazz_Diffindo, no easier or harder than debian07:38
talkyone more is there some time out settng for modem connections?07:38
tritiumksmurf, do you have ipw2200?07:38
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jjazz_Diffindo, I had to set it up w/ SAMBA, and it was kind of a pain07:38
DiffindoAnd then get a thrid one as a web server07:38
jjazz_Diffindo, but now that it's up, the box shares my printer and files with a bunch of linux and win pcs07:38
ksmurftritium no .  SIS chip Ath.....07:38
DiffindoBut the web-server may not happen too soon...07:38
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tritiumksmurf, oh, okay.  I'm aware of some issues with ipw220007:39
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DiffindoEven with DSL, my uplink isn't great07:39
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jjazz_Diffindo, It depends on how you want to access this stuff.  You could use throw the files on, run sshd and use fish to get your files.07:39
DiffindoYeah07:39
solidgroovei have this problem07:39
solidgrooveThe following packages have unmet dependencies:07:39
solidgroove  gnomebaker: Depends: mpg321 but it is not going to be installed07:39
solidgroove              Depends: sox but it is not going to be installed07:39
solidgroove              Depends: vorbis-tools but it is not installable07:39
Seveassolidgroove, don't ever paste in here07:39
tritiumplease don't paste solidgroove07:39
SeveasEVER07:39
ksmurfI'm Loving that the fact that Madwifi started working But The activating and deactivating is annoying.07:40
solidgroovesorry07:40
jjazz_dell500, without a static ip, you can't do http://ip/pictures because ip is changing every once in a while.07:40
Diffindosolidgroove07:40
Seveassolidgroove, correct your sources.list. gnomebaker is installable on hoary and breezy07:40
Will^Draventritium: http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hcf/full/downloads.php the hcf driver has a ubuntu 5.04 package on this page07:40
DiffindoTry 'sudo aptitude'07:40
Diffindooh07:40
Diffindonvm07:40
MrFaberAnyone has problems with powernowd?07:40
ksmurfMrFaber?... Pm ME07:41
LeeColletonMrFaber: it doesn't work with PIII Celeron Processors07:41
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tritiumWill^Draven, I see.07:41
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FireZillahi all07:41
DiffindoAnyone have any problems with the Biostar mainboards? Namely the P4VMA line?07:41
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MrFaberLeeColleton, ksmurf, thanks07:41
kuruI guess no one has any ideas for me :(07:42
windexkuru, what was your question?07:42
tucatshow do i get a link to my home folder on my desktop?07:43
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Diffindodrag and drop is the easiest way07:43
solidgroovei have in aptitude 3 unsatisfied and 1 unavaliable when installing gnomebaker07:43
pc22mainly: whats the difference breezy and hoary?07:43
MrFaberLeeColleton, I have no Celeron, but a Pentium M with 1600/1200 MHZ07:43
Seveaspc22 lots...07:43
tucatsdiffindo cant i tried that07:43
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windexkuru, ah ha. printer problems. sorry, can't help. i can't even get my CUPS installation to stop sending things to my printer that cause my printer's postscript rendering engine to hardlock.07:43
pc22looks?07:43
Seveastucats, ln -s ~ ~/Desktop07:43
MrFaberLeeColleton, everytime it changes the cpu freq down my pc hangs for two seconds07:43
Seveaspc22, not too much07:44
tritiumkuru, I see a ppd for the 3550 in /usr/share/ppd/HP07:44
tucatsseveas yes, thank you07:44
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Diffindo/me is away ~{Shower}~ at $time07:44
Diffindough07:44
DiffindoI miss mIRC07:44
LeeColletonMrFaber: random idea, try fiddling with your BIOS settings.  Sometimes the BIOS and the kernel will fight for control of setting processor speed07:44
DiffindoFunny thing07:45
LeeColletonMrFaber: turn of any BIOS settings that automatically change CPU speed07:45
FireZillacan anyone tell me where I can find the "htdocs" folder?07:45
MrFaberLeeColleton, I don't think so since the ondemand governor of the kernel works fine in other distro07:45
FireZillaplease?07:45
MrFaberLeeColleton, I have no bios setting07:45
jjazz_FireZilla, locate htdocs?07:45
kurutritium: hoary?07:45
SeveasFireCat, slocate htdocs07:45
LeeColletonMrFaber: just an idea, I don't know07:45
Seveasor be more specific07:45
MrFaberLeeColleton, and I don't understand why I can't use ondemand07:45
DiffindoI have a 478 Celeron D and under both Ubuntu and Windoze, I have no OCing capabilities what so ever07:45
MrFaberLeeColleton, thanks07:45
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MrFaberLeeColleton, I can activate performance governor instead of userspace but not ondemand07:46
tritiumkuru, I'm on breezy now.  try "dpkg -L foomatic-filters-ppds | grep 3550"07:46
DiffindoIt's not a great nusaince, just something that bugs me sometimes...07:46
FireZillajjazz, Seveas: that doesn't do anything :s07:46
MrFaberwhile ondemand is loaded07:46
ksmurftritium.... where is the network startup script?07:46
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jjazz_FireZilla, nothing?07:46
tritiumksmurf, /etc/init.d/networking, you mean?07:46
SeveasFireZilla, then be more specific07:47
Seveasyou told NOTHING about your problem...07:47
jjazz_FireZilla, you typed locate htdocs into the command line an nothing happend?  Did you hit enter?07:47
ksmurfThanks07:47
tritiumksmurf, what are you trying to do?07:47
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FireZillajjazz, Seveas: sorry. yeah - I did. nothing happened. I just installed Apache, PHP and MySQL. also phpmyadmin. I want to know where htdocs is so that I can install wordpress for offline checking07:48
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test34how can we enable remote desktop from command prompt/shell ?07:48
SeveasFireZilla, in that case: nowhere07:48
Seveasit's /var/www07:48
ksmurftritium .... I'm trying to get my wireless working on bootup.07:48
Seveasnothing with htdocs07:48
oolontest34, krdc07:48
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test34oolon, krdc ?07:48
durtksmurf: using ndiwrapper?07:49
oolonwhat happens when you put that in a shell07:49
Seveasoolon, *command line*07:49
Seveasso no k* things07:49
oolonoh so like ssh?07:49
Hoxzercan I somehow return default desktop settings?07:49
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FireZillaSeveas: oh :(  But shouldn't there be an "htdocs" directory if I've installed Apache?07:50
jjazz_FireZilla, no07:50
tritiumTake care, everyone...07:50
test34oolon,  yes07:50
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test34I just dont want to leave remote desktop running all the time07:50
ksmurfdurt.... No.  Madwifi..... I have to manually deactivate and activate my wifi networking.07:50
test34I want to start it remotely07:50
Seveasit's /var/www <--------------07:50
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[Wiebel] anyone here running ubuntu with a intel 855 video controlling with drm/dri working?07:50
FireZillaSeveas: hey thanks. sorry to bother you.07:51
FireZillajjazz, Seveas: Thank you very much guys!07:51
durtksmurf: you could put a script in /etc/init.d07:51
onkarshindeI am having problem installing dvdrip. It seems that transcode package depends certain version of libgcc1 which is not available in repositories.07:51
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oolonnot sure how ubuntu will like it though http://packages.debian.org/testing/libs/libgcc107:52
oolononkarshinde, ^^^07:52
ksmurfdurt that's what I'm thinking07:52
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MrFaberAnyone knows how do uninstall powernowd and use ondemand governor instead?07:53
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onkarshinde!info transcode07:53
onkarshinde!info dvdrip07:54
ubotudvdrip: (perl front end for transcode), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 1:0.52.2-0.0 (hoary), Packaged size: 352 kB, Installed size: 1640 kB07:54
solidgrooveoh i missed a line in the apt sources07:54
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lfelipeHello, I have just installed ubuntu for the first time, and I'm having a little problem with the initial update.07:54
lfelipeIt stopped on Setting up ubuntu-desktop (0.73) ...07:54
lfelipeand it's been like that for quite some time07:54
ksmurf I'm using the Madwifi with breezy.  I have no issues with it except having to activate my connection manually.  Any solution?07:55
onkarshindeIt is funny. Uboutu knows dvdrip is perl frontend, but not what transcode is.07:55
lfelipeI installed breezy preview07:55
ksmurf!madwifi07:55
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, ksmurf07:55
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ksmurf!network07:55
ubotuksmurf: I don't know07:55
ksmurf!networking07:55
ubotuksmurf: I give up, what is it?07:55
ksmurf!wireless07:56
ubotumethinks wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards07:56
MrFaberThe problem with powernowd is known07:56
lfelipeanyone can help me ??07:57
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lokadinsay can anyone tell me how i can install eclipse onto ubuntu07:57
lokadin?07:57
ompaullfelipe, were you using synaptic?07:58
MrFaberIf I try to remove powernowd Synaptic wants to remove ubuntu-desktop too07:58
MrFaberis it ok?07:58
onkarshinde!eclipse07:58
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ubotuto install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE07:58
lfelipeompaul : yep07:58
onkarshindelokadin: ^^^07:58
lokadinubotu, thanks07:58
ubotulokadin: no problem07:58
Hikaru79Breezy rules :D07:58
ompaullfelipe, you can stop and start it again, are you using hoary or breezy?07:58
durtksmurf: put the script in /etc/init.d/whatever.sh; and then run  "sudo update-rc.d whatever.sh defaults"07:59
lfelipeompaul : breezy preview07:59
ompaullfelipe, there are a lot of updates for that07:59
erichbI need a little help with a USB problem I'm having.07:59
darkheartlfelipe Sometimes when you upgrade packages it asks you questions in the little terminal window as well. Click that arrow to expand the window.07:59
onkarshindeMrFaber: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package that is dependent on all the packages that are installed by default07:59
lfelipedarkheart : it did ask me something. And after it did, it continued installing, but the status bar simply stopped on one package08:00
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lfelipeI closed the window, but synaptic is still running. Is it ok to just kill it ?08:00
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onkarshindeMrFaber: ubuntu-desktop may help you when you upgrade Ubuntu next. I will install some packages that are to be installed by default in new version but not present in current version.08:01
darkheartlfelipe Okay, well, do what ompaul suggests then. It might have just stalled on a download or something.08:01
ompaullfelipe, have you *dsl/broadband?08:01
neurondevI'd like to get the kernel sources for Ubuntu, however the machine that needs it is not networked... how/where can I download it so I can transfer the files to the PC that need sit08:02
neurondev*needs it08:02
Q-FUNKanybody who's using Ubuntu on Mac/PPC and who has ALSA problems, please contribute data to this wiki page: http://wiki.debian.net/?PowerpcSoundcards08:02
neurondev?08:02
lfelipeompaul, : yes08:02
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onkarshindeneurondev: which version of ubuntu?08:02
neurondevHoary08:02
neurondevits actually Kubuntu08:03
neurondevbut sources should be same08:03
ompaullfelipe, that is good,08:03
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onkarshindeneurondev: You should be able to find kernel source on CD08:04
erichbas anyone ever dealt with this message before? "usb 1-1: khubd timed out on ep0in08:04
erichb"08:04
lfelipejust a newbie question, what's the difference between universe and multiverse ?08:04
neurondevok, and how would I install them do I need to go through Synaptic?08:04
MrFaberonkarshinde, thanks08:04
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MrFaberonkarshinde, how can I add powernowd init script like default08:04
erichbI'm googling now and there are people with that problem but I can't find any solutions.08:05
neurondevonkarshinde: ok, and how would I install them do I need to go through Synaptic?08:05
kentlfelipe, I think multiverse is like universe, but it is for non-free things.08:05
MrFaberThere was a post in forum how to correct powernowd initializations script08:05
MrFabernow it should work but I have removed the init scripts of powernowd08:05
onkarshindeneurondev: install it using 'sudo dpkg --install filename.deb' command08:05
onkarshindeMrFaber: I have no idea08:06
neurondevonkarshinde: thanks08:06
MrFaber:)08:06
MrFaberI remove it with  sudo update-rc.d -f powernowd remove08:06
onkarshindelfelipe: multiverse contains some packages which may not be legal in some countries, AFAIK08:07
MrFaberwhat is this update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/powernowd exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)08:07
MrFaberThats why I use -f08:07
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lfelipethanks08:07
MrFabersudo update-rc.d powernowd add doesn't work without additional information08:07
neurondevonkarshinde: and where would it be on the CD?08:07
neurondevonkarshinde: is it in 'pool'?08:08
onkarshindeneurondev: yes in pool/l/linux i suppose08:08
annexI have installed Ubuntu 5.04 on a partition to test it before switching.  So far I love it except Xorg performance seems rather poor.  Currently using Xfree86 on gentoo resizing of windows, scrolling in firefox etc. is much smoother than using Xorg on ubuntu. Using 'top', I've noticed Xorg uses about 20-30% more of my cpu than Xfree86 does when simply scrolling the same website in firefox, or resizing a gaim chat window.  I have a dual monitor s08:09
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neurondevonkarshinde: yup pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.1008:09
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onkarshindeneurondev: be sure to install sources for your processor i.e k7, i386, i68608:10
drapelykCan anyone help me move files to my server?08:10
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hmrochahello08:11
onkarshindedrapelyk: what files and what server?08:11
jjazz_drapelyk, Dude, I don't even know you.  I'm not helping you move.08:11
hmrochaa friend of mine as a laptop with a usb wireless connection08:11
drapelykit's a .gz file and an ubuntu server08:11
windexhmrocha, what wireless adapter?08:11
hmrochai used the ubuntu hoary live cd to show him linux08:11
drapelyki'm moving from my desktop running ubuntu to an ubuntu server on lan08:12
hmrochai'd like to configure the wireless connection in ubuntu, just to show him what it's like08:12
drapelykjjazz_ ... lol08:12
jjazz_drapelyk, sftp should do it08:12
windexhmrocha, if the livecd didn't find it, it gets hard to configure it w/o an install. what kind of wireless adapter is it?08:12
drapelykjjazz_ I don't know how to use that08:12
drapelykdoes it need to be installed on the server?08:12
jjazz_drapelyk, you need ssh on the server08:13
drapelyksudo apt-get install sftp  ?08:13
drapelykI've got OpenSSH08:13
jjazz_drapelyk, apt-get install ssh08:13
hmrochawindex: ez connect 54mbps wireless 2.0 adapter08:13
jjazz_drapelyk, is sshd running on the server?08:13
drapelykyup08:13
windexhmrocha, got a model?08:13
jjazz_drapelyk, then sftp <server address>08:13
hmrochawindex: yes08:13
jjazz_drapelyk, navigate to the directory, and do 'put <filename>'08:14
jjazz_drapelyk, (navigate using cd commands)08:14
windexhmrocha, i mean, what's the exact model #. does it have one on the unit?08:14
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drapelykhaha, that's easy, lol, thanks dude08:14
hmrochawindex: model: smc2862wg-eu08:14
windexhmrocha, thanks.08:14
jjazz_drapelyk, np08:14
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Leshrachello08:14
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apokryphosHi =)08:15
neurondevhow can I set the kernel path?08:15
hmrochawindex: i opened system->administration->networking08:15
neurondev(Can't 'make', sez KERNELPATH needs to be set.)08:15
drapelykjjaz_ does the put <filename> need to be like "put /blah/blah/blah/filename?08:15
hmrochawindex: only "modem connection", "ethernet connection"08:15
pc22thanks people for the support08:15
hmrochawindex: there's no wireless connection08:15
windexhmrocha, yeah. im not sure that the wifi chipset he has is going to work.08:16
LeshracWhat's the command to change a folder's access rights?08:16
windexhmrocha, i can't find any notes on driver support for it.08:16
hmrochawindex: that's really bad08:16
windexhmrocha, oh, wait.08:16
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durthrocha, you probably cant use the wireless connection with the live cd then08:16
jjazz_drapelyk, run sftp from the source dir and then, when in sftp, cd to the destination dir, then just 'put filename'08:16
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ugo__ahh....nickserver is  b#$%#$%08:16
zurnLeshrac chmod08:16
jjazz_drapelyk, or: do 'put /path/to/file'08:16
hmrochawindex: i think i could install ubuntu in his pc and connect the laptop to it with ethernet08:17
Leshracthanks zurn, i keep forgetting08:17
drapelykjjazz_ k, thanks08:17
zurnLeshrac np08:17
windexhmrocha, prisim54 = the driver.08:17
jjazz_drapelyk, actually, I'm not sure about that path/to/file stuff.  sorry... I'm spacing on it.08:17
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windexhmrocha, open a terminal08:17
tucatswhat version of x does breezy ship with?08:17
windexhmrocha, then try 'sudo modprobe prism54'08:18
tucatsxfree86 43 or x.org 6.808:18
hmrochawindex: done08:18
neurondev(Can't 'make', sez KERNELPATH needs to be set.)08:18
windexhmrocha, type 'dmesg' in the terminal, at the bottom, does it say anything about finding it?08:18
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windexhmrocha, it will at least say 'loading prism54 driver'.08:19
hmrocha"loading prism54 driver, version 1.2"08:19
windexbut nothing after that?08:19
hmrochabut nothing more08:19
onkarshindeneurondev: set KERNELPATH=pathto kernel08:19
drapelykjjazz_ ok it's just saying permission denied08:19
bob2tucats: packages.ubuntu.com/xserver-xorg08:19
windexhmrocha, hold. :) reading.08:19
hmrochawindex: thanks very very much08:20
onkarshindetucats: x.org 6.808:20
drapelykjjazz_file permissions on the folder i'm tyring to put it in are drwxr-xr-x08:20
tucatsonkarshinde, thanks08:20
drapelykI got, "Couldn't get handle, permission denied"08:21
LeshracI have a little problem, I have just installed kubuntu 5.04 in a computer that's too far away to link with an ethernet cable08:21
onkarshindeLeshrac: So what is problem?08:21
LeshracI'm trying to make the wireless network work, but I don't know if it is at all possible08:21
jjazz_drapelyk, the account you use to log in to the remote box has to have permissoin to write to the directory where you're putting the file08:21
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tucatsanyone installed ATI drivers for breezy?08:22
onkarshindeLeshrac: This for you. You can see if your card is supported !wireless08:22
LeshracI am reading the forums and the solutions I have found involve using apt-get, and I can't because it has no net connection08:22
onkarshinde!wireless08:22
ubotufrom memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards08:22
windexhmrocha, ok, the driver is hit or miss depending on the revision of the adapter by the manufacturer. the only way i could tell you to get it working would be to figure out the usb device id and modify the driver, which, as it turns out, is an awful, complicated, difficult method. and even if we did all that, there's no promise it would work. i can give you a list of things i know work, though, and since most usb adapters are in the $30-40USD r08:22
windexange, $30-40USD is a lot cheaper than your sanity? :)08:22
drapelykjjazz_ it says that drapelyk is the owner, and that is the user I have logged in with08:22
windexoi.08:22
pc22how do i install windows apps in ubuntu?08:22
jjazz_drapelyk, what dir are you trying to write to?08:22
drapelyk/var/www/phpbb08:23
jjazz_pc22, apt-get install wine, but it's not for the faint of heart08:23
onkarshindepc22: depends on what you want to install08:23
pc22ok08:23
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hmrochawindex: i think i'll install ubuntu on this pc instead08:23
Leshrac!wireless08:23
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards08:23
hmrochawindex: and connect the laptop to this computer08:23
bob2Leshrac: what chipset is the card?08:24
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onkarshindeLeshrac: you can install packages on the computer not connected to net provided you know the exact dependencies08:24
LeshracI don't know08:24
windexhmrocha, yeah. im sorry about that. wifi support in linux is just now getting to the point it's 'decent', imho. and that means a lot of things aren't going to work. it's like how sound cards worked in 1998/1999.. most of the time they didn't. :)08:24
Leshracit's a belkin pci08:24
bob2Leshrac: you need to find that out before you can proceed08:24
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skalleranyone know how to rebuild locales?08:24
bob2ew, belkin08:24
bob2skaller: localegen08:24
skallernot enuf08:25
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onkarshindebob2: good to see you. I was missing my daytimes chat mates08:25
skallerget this: /usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory08:25
hmrochawindex: this computer is using wireless too, but it's a pci card08:25
Leshracbob2: what's the easiest way to find out? looking at the card itself?08:25
windexhmrocha, know the model?08:25
hmrochawindex: but i'm using windows here08:25
skalleralready tried localegen08:25
hmrochawindex: i'll try to search08:25
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windexhmrocha, check in properties on the my computer icon, then find the device manager. it should tell you08:26
thoreauputichi ompaul :)08:26
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hmrochawindex: smc2602w 11mbps wireless pci card08:26
bob2Leshrac: lspci, if it's pci08:26
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net_benjohi all, I need help with setting up wireless WPA08:27
Leshracthank you very much.08:27
gabbermansound card help anyone?08:27
Leshracand now that I know the chipset, what do I do?08:27
skallerroot@rosella:/work/felix/flx # locale-gen08:27
skallerGenerating locales...08:27
skaller  en_AU.UTF-8... done08:27
skallerGeneration complete.08:27
skallerroot@rosella:/work/felix/flx # locale08:27
skallerlocale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory08:27
onkarshindegabberman: which soundcard? what is problem?08:27
gabbermani have ISA sound card...08:27
bob2skaller: please don't paste in here08:27
gabbermanbeen inhere bofore08:27
gabbermani was told to..08:27
windexhmrocha, driver 'prism2' should work08:27
bob2skaller: and you'd need to show us "echo $LC_CTYPE"08:27
gabbermanload hedgehog, instead of breezy08:28
bob2an ISA sound card is not going to be trivial08:28
gabbermanthen thetres some code I can put in to load all the ISA sound card droivers.. ?08:28
apokryphosgabberman: good idea. Breezy hasn't reached stable status yet.08:28
skallerits empty08:28
bob2simplest solution is to replace it08:28
net_benjocan anybody help me with setting up WPA wireless with ipw2200 ??08:28
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bob2skaller: it prints nothing at all?08:28
bob2net_benjo: your question is missing important details, like what you've tried already08:28
hmrochawindex: ok, i'll try to run the livecd here08:28
windexhmrocha, but, the non-prism branded prism support is hit or miss, just like the usb adapter08:28
skallerprints nothing08:28
gabbermanany ideas?08:28
windexhmrocha, so try 'modprobe' if it dosen't find it08:28
bob2net_benjo: I assume you searched and found the WPA howto on the wiki, and the xsupplicant package08:28
bob2gabberman: how hard would it be to replace it?08:29
windexhmrocha, and if it dosen't find it, that's pretty much that, sadly.08:29
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net_benjohmrocha:  sorry..i followed a HOWTO: ipw2200 + wpa from ubuntuforums.org...08:29
skallerbut locale program says this:  LC_CTYPE="en_AU.UTF-8"08:29
windexhmrocha, rather, 'modprobe prism2'.08:29
gabbermanreplace what08:29
gabberman?08:29
hmrochawindex: ok, thanks very much, i'll keep in touch08:29
windexhmrocha, like before with prism54.08:29
windexhmrocha, ok. good luck. :)08:29
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bob2gabberman: the card with a PCI one08:29
Leshraccan someone guide me to a Setting up a wireless network How-To?08:29
onkarshindegabberman: he is asking fro replacing the card08:29
gabbermanright now 100%, cos im broke heh.... is ISA cards that bad to install?08:29
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jjazz_Leshrac, there is no good howto for beginners, AFAIK08:30
skallerthe problem arose installing bad C library08:30
skallerreinstalled good one, but locales stay broken08:30
bob2linlin: what did lspci say about it?08:30
sorush20how do I fix these character problems http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i225908:30
bob2skaller: wtf08:30
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linlinHi, I need to run a KDE application (kftpgrabber) but I use gnome. I'm also low on hard disk space so I dont wnat to install kde fully. What can i apt-get to jsut allow me to run that application with gnome, and not waste space on getting all of kde, which i would never use?08:31
bob2skaller: where "bad C library" = "the C library from sid"?08:31
bob2linlin: #kubuntu08:31
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linlinbut im using regular ubuntu08:31
skallernope, debian-amd64 unstable, which is 2.3.5 i think08:31
linlini jsut need to run one kde application08:31
bob2sorush20: use a font that has that character08:31
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onkarshindelinlin: is that application available in ubuntu repository?08:32
bob2linlin: yes, but that KDE program is not in Ubuntu, so you need to asdk KDE people what dependencies it has08:32
linlinno08:32
CryptidPlease Help!!!!I always get a "Xlib not supported error"when i install some thing how do i fix this error?????????08:32
bob2linlin: since that is the solution to your problem08:32
bob2Cryptid: no, that's not what it says08:32
net_benjoI need help with setting up wireless with WPA...i followed a howto from ubuntuforums but its still not working right?  i don't know what else to try08:32
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bob2Cryptid: show us the actual error, and tell us what you're doing to get it08:32
bob2net_benjo: you didn't answer either of my questions08:32
onkarshindesorush20: is it any Windows specific font?08:32
windexnet_benjo, you're using a 2200BG centrino chip?08:32
LeshracWould someone be so kind of outlining the steps I should follow to get wireless working (providing that I am stupid)?08:33
sorush20onkarshinde: I don't know.. but I don't know what the charecter is.08:33
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bob2Leshrac: you didn't show us the lspci output yet08:33
onkarshindesorush20: Please provide me to actual page then I can tell you08:33
net_benjowindex: yes I am08:33
Leshracsorry, how do I get that output?08:34
bob2net_benjo: did you install xsupplicant yet?08:34
windexnet_benjo, lemme look at the howto real quick.08:34
MrFaberthe /usr/share/powernowd/cpufreq_detect.sh has some bugs08:34
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sorush20http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pmc&cmd=search&term=NURSE+CELLS08:34
tritiumlspci, Leshrac08:34
sorush20onkarshinde: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pmc&cmd=search&term=NURSE+CELLS08:34
windexbob2, it's wpasupplicant08:34
bob2Leshrac: run the 'lspci' command and past it's output to #flood08:34
net_benjowindex:  thanks08:34
bob2windex: which is a seperate program08:34
Cryptidbob2, i just installed gdesklet and during the installtion in synaptic terminal box the first few lines are like "Xlib not supported at some/etc/something something directories" what do i do08:34
Leshracthanks, I'll be back in a moment08:34
MrFabernow it works with one change for me08:34
bob2MrFaber: then file a bug in bugzilla.ubuntu.com08:34
net_benjowindex:  do you know which how it it is, exactly??08:34
bob2Cryptid: that is presumably not really what it says, still08:34
MrFaberbob2, ok, I will check if it isn't posted08:34
bob2MrFaber: great, thanks08:35
net_benjowindex: its called ipw2200 + wpa08:35
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windexnet_benjo, yeah08:35
MrFaberbob2, thanks too08:35
net_benjowindex: ok cool08:35
skallerbtw, does breezy preview support dist upgrade?08:35
bob2skaller: of course08:35
bob2skaller: binary X drivers appear broken, tho08:35
bob2as is suspend-to-disk08:35
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skallerouch .. cant do much without X :)08:36
MrFaberOn boot while framebuffer is used I got an error that synchronizing with ntp doesn't work. What could be the reason?08:36
MrFaberNTP-Server ist installed and runs08:36
MrFabersynchronizing with gnome works08:36
bob2skaller: you don't need binary drivers to have X working08:36
Cryptidbob2, wait i will install some thing and then copy and show u the error08:36
bob2MrFaber: presumably your network is not up08:36
windexnet_benjo, hm.08:36
net_benjowindex: yes?08:37
MrFaberdhcp takes too long?08:37
skalleri don't? ok .. so should i try it? Really need glibc 2.3.508:37
onkarshindesorush20: No idea what character it is.08:37
skallerand it should fix the locale problem ..08:37
skaller?08:37
MrFaberbob2, there are many powernowd module bugs posted08:37
bob2MrFaber: could be08:37
bob2MrFaber: ok08:37
Leshracbob2: I gt this from lspci: 0000:00:0c.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless            LAN Controller (rev 03)08:37
MrFaberbob2, how could I change this08:37
bob2skaller: why on earth would you need 2.3.5?08:37
bob2Leshrac: ouch08:37
net_benjowindex:  was that a good or a bad hmm??08:37
bob2Leshrac: is it too late to exchange it?08:38
MrFaberbob2, e.g. disabled synchronizing on start08:38
onkarshindebob2: Is there any think like DSL modem with WiFi interface?08:38
bob2MrFaber: sudo rm /etc/rcS.d/S*ntp*08:38
windexnet_benjo, well, wpasupplicant seems pretty straightforward, but i have no wpa host to test it with08:38
MrFaberbob2, thanks08:38
skallerbecause recent versions of many packages are build against it and i need those version08:38
bob2skaller: no, you're going to break your system08:38
Leshracbob2:you mean there's no way to make it work?08:38
windexnet_benjo, does ubuntu already find your network adapter? it autodetected my 2200BG08:38
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bob2Leshrac: it's painful08:38
net_benjowindex...i see...but I think you could give me a hint if I give you an output of iwconfig...can I post it here?? its about 10 lines08:38
windexnet_benjo, hold08:39
Leshracwhat should I do then?08:39
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bob2neville: #flood08:39
bob2er08:39
MrFaberAnyone has experiences with loop-aes?08:39
bob2net_benjo: #flood or the pastbin in the topc08:39
windexbob2, i just had him msg it to me08:39
lfelipeHi, got another question. How do I force apt-get update to download the list of packages again ?08:39
nevillehow can i remove a accidentally added root passwd ?08:39
bob2Leshrac: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper08:39
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bob2lfelipe: why would you need to force it?08:39
onkarshindelfelipe: what do you mean by force? isn't apt-get update sufficient?08:40
Leshracthanks bob208:40
bob2neville: sudo passwd -l08:40
lfelipewell, I had to ctrl+c while it was running, and I don' t know if it really worked08:40
lfelipeso I wanted to run it again08:40
lfelipeI added hoary-backports to the sources.list, but I still can't find w32codecs08:40
bob2skaller: if you really think you need things from breezy, then either recompile the package yourself, or upgrade to breey08:41
DiffindoI have an IBM PC Camera, where can I get the Linux drivers for it?08:41
drapelykhow do I extract a tar.gz file by command line to the directory it is in?08:41
bob2lfelipe: w32codecs is not in hoary-backports08:41
bob2drapelyk: tar -zxf foo.tar.gz08:41
apokryphoslfelipe: it's in hoary extras08:41
lfelipebob2, people on the forums were saying it was08:41
apokryphosubotu: tell lfelipe about hoary-extras08:41
skallerbob2, I don't need to recompile the package myself, there are too many packages08:41
onkarshindelfelipe: w32codecs is in universe08:41
bob2lfelipe: they're wrong and/or confused08:41
onkarshindesorry08:41
onkarshindeextras08:41
bob2onkarshinde: no, it's not08:41
apokryphoslfelipe: it used to be, but that was some time ago.08:41
bob2right08:41
onkarshinde!w32codecs08:41
ubotuw32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repository. AMD64? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 Legal issues: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats08:41
lfelipeI've got both universe and multiverse, but no w32codecs avialable in breezy08:42
bob2skaller: good for you08:42
nevillebob2, thanks a lot08:42
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tritiumDiffindo, they're in the default kernel08:42
bob2skaller: installing breezy's libc is not a solution to anything, tho08:42
bob2skaller: either upgrade to breezy or rebuild the packages yourself08:42
skallerwell, I can't even build my own package on Hoary08:42
onkarshindelfelipe: get your answer just before your message08:42
lfelipeis it ok to add hoary-extras to breezy's sources.list ?08:42
MrFaberthere is no libdvdcss2 packet too08:42
skallerbecause it requires ocaml-3.08.408:42
bob2skaller: why not?08:42
tritiumDiffindo, the module name is ibmcam08:43
bob2MrFaber: not in ubuntu, indeed08:43
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MrFaberBut who needs it if there is vlc :)08:43
Diffindotritium08:43
DiffindoThanks08:43
bob2skaller: then you have to build ocaml first08:43
MrFaberbob2, how to play dvd without vlc then?08:43
MrFaberAnd vlc uses this lib too08:43
bob2MrFaber: you need to get it from elsewhere08:43
onkarshindeMrFaber: install totem-xine08:43
bob2ubuntu is absolutely not permitted to include it08:43
skalleri don't understand what you mean.. I have CVS Ocaml built, i can build my code08:43
Diffindotritium: it that module in? or do I need to apt-get it...08:44
bob2onkarshinde: totem-xine cannot play encrypted (ie all) dvds without it, either08:44
bob2skaller: so what are you complaining about?08:44
MrFaberonkarshinde, thanks but I am happy with vlc just was curious that there was no packet08:44
skallerbut i can't build the package, because of unsatisfied dependencies08:44
Hoxzercan I some how open video file and subtitle with VLC with one command?08:44
skaller3.08.4 isn't available on Hoary, the latest is 3.08.208:44
annexI followed the repositories howto ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto ) and updated my package list but the mplayer package still does not appear to exist.  How can I install mplayer?08:44
bob2skaller: do you know the difference between build and runtime dependencies?08:44
skalleryes08:44
bob2skaller: if you have ocaml installed from cvs, then ignore that build-dependency08:44
bob2annex: mplayer is in multiverse, check again that you enabled it08:45
annexbob2: I only saw universe, no multiverse08:45
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skallerwhat do you mean ignore it?08:45
bob2annex: then enable multiverse08:45
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skallerI'm not trying to build this package for myself -- I'm the dang AUTHOR08:45
bob2skaller: I mean, ignore it.  don't install it.  it doesn't matter if build-dependencies are missing08:46
bob2wtf are you talking about?08:46
bob2you're complaining that the build-dependencies cannot be satisfied in hoary, yes?08:46
drapelykcan you delete folders that are not empty?08:46
skallerI am the upstream author of a debian package08:46
annexbob2: but there is no multiverse to enable in the list08:46
skallerand also the maintainer08:46
tritiumdrapelyk, yes08:46
bob2annex: then add it manually08:46
drapelykhow?08:46
bob2skaller: okiedokie08:46
onkarshindeannex: add multiverse in the same line where there is universe08:46
skallerso I would like to actually check the package works08:46
tritiumdrapelyk, with the -f switch08:46
bob2skaller: ...08:46
drapelyksudo rmdir * -f?08:47
annexthanks08:47
bob2skaller: so you're trying to make sure it builds on breezy?08:47
skalleri tried using equivs .. but had some problems08:47
skallerno, i'08:47
tritiumdrapelyk, rm, and please be very careful how you use that08:47
skallerno, i'm trying to check that the packaging is right08:47
paddedwallis it possible to change the keystrokes necessary to highlight text?08:47
skallerwhich requires installing it08:47
MrFaberDoes anyone knows if Ubuntu has some special cache mechanism08:47
bob2skaller: if you're actually maintaing a package, presumably you know about chroots?08:47
tritiumMrFaber, for caching what?08:47
MrFaberI don't got the point why apps start faster than on gentoo :)08:47
annexbob2, onkarshinde: worked, thanks08:47
skallerbut it won't install due to failed dependency08:48
MrFabersame system08:48
bob2skaller: if you want to test the breezy package, install it in your breezy chroot08:48
skalleractually it's a debian package08:48
bob2MrFaber: linker optimisations, perhaps08:48
MrFabermaybe it is gnome's fault08:48
bob2skaller: then test it in your debian chroot08:48
skallerhasn't made it into ubuntu yet08:48
MrFaberI don't know08:48
onkarshindeMrFaber: May be because they are not stripped on Gentoo. See man strip08:48
drapelyktritium it says that -f is an invalid option08:49
MrFaberpossible, thanks08:49
tritiumdrapelyk, can't be08:49
tritiumdrapelyk, remember, I told you not to use that switch with rm, _not_ with rmdir08:50
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MrFaberWhere can I define standard apps like for viewing DVD08:50
MrFaberwith Gnome08:50
skalleryes bob2, i could do that, but it is a pain: I really need to upgrade08:50
skallerbut before that .. I would llike to get the locales working again :)08:50
apokryphosskaller: chroot a pain? Takes like 20 minutes, if not less.08:50
apokryphos(if you know what you're doing it's less)08:50
drapelykwhen I type "sudo rmdir -f * " it does not work08:50
skalleryeah, but i don't08:51
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onkarshindeMrFaber: For ubuntu, System->Preferences->Prefered Applications08:51
tritiumdrapelyk, please read my messages to you more carefully08:51
MrFaberonkarshinde, I have found this but this is for terminal, mail and ww only08:51
apokryphosskaller: doesn't matter; there's simple howtos08:51
bob2skaller: did this all start because you pointed apt at sid?08:51
apokryphosubotu: tell skaller about chroot08:51
drapelykdrapelyk, remember, I told you not to use that switch with rm, _not_ with rmdir08:51
drapelyklol08:51
skallerI apt-ed at debian-amd64 unstable08:51
bob2wow08:51
skallerstupid i know :)08:51
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bob2what a shock that screwed things up08:51
onkarshindeMrFaber: Do you want for DVD?08:51
drapelyktritium, rm does not remove files though08:51
drapelyk*folders08:52
bob2skaller: use apt pinning to unbreak your system08:52
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tritiumdrapelyk, yes it does08:52
MrFaberonkarshinde, yes use vlc instead of totem08:52
bob2skaller: man apt_prefences, pin ubuntu hoary above 1000, run apt-get dist-upgrade08:52
skalleri reinstalled from hoary ..08:52
bob2skaller: reinstalled the whole system?08:52
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bob2if not, do what I just said08:52
drapelyktritium "cannot remove because * is a directory08:52
skallernope, i just upgraded everying,  and got the old libc back08:53
onkarshindeMrFaber: System->Preferences->Removable drives and media preferences08:53
bob2skaller: right, so you're still screwed08:53
tritiumdrapelyk, use the -f switch08:53
bob2skaller: do what I said08:53
skallerjust locales :)08:53
MrFaberonkarshinde, you are so fast, many thanks :)08:53
skallerok08:53
drapelyktritium I HAVE typed "sudo rm -f * " several times... it doesn't work08:53
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onkarshindeMrFaber: Playing with ubuntu for quite a time now.08:54
drapelyktritium it says it cannot remove it because it is a directory08:54
apokryphosdrapelyk: use r option08:54
tritiumdrapelyk, ^ with the f08:54
Will^Dravendrapelyk: sudo rm -rf *08:54
MrFaberonkarshinde, :)08:55
Hikaru79I just did a default install of Breezy and I'm looking at the new "Services Settings" dialog and I'm noticing that it came installed with three schedulers (anacron, atd, and cron) and two loggers (klogd and sysklogd). Is there a reason for the overlap, or can I safely remove the excess?08:55
Will^Dravenbe careful where you use that command, lol08:55
paddedwallis it possible to change the keystrokes necessary to highlight text?  I want to be able to do it the same way windows does it...08:55
windexbob2, does breezy have a wifi utility that accounts for multiple access points, networks, and wpa, yet? :)08:55
bob2windex: yes, no wpa08:55
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bob2Hikaru79: they all do different things, leave them alone08:56
moparfan90hello is there a way to make my ubuntu system run faster?08:56
bob2paddedwall: that's app/toolkti specific08:56
onkarshindeHikaru79: They are different08:56
moparfan90i already have a light wieght window manager??08:56
bob2moparfan90: not unless you tell us what bits you think are slow08:56
windexbob2, k. i'd try upgrading my tablet to breezy if i wasn't already amazed hoary is running. i'll try enjoying it first for awhile.08:56
onkarshindemoparfan90: which window manager are you using?08:56
bob2hah08:56
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MrFaberonkarshinde, works great :)08:57
paddedwallso the answer is basically no... harumph...08:57
moparfan90bob2, i want the start up to be faster and shutt of.... but other then that make the whole system a little faster08:57
MrFaberI start really loving ubuntu :)08:57
bob2moparfan90: why are yo ustarting up and shutting down at all?08:57
bob2moparfan90: use suspend-to-disk08:57
Hikaru79bob2, onkarshinde , got it! =) Thanks. Good thing I checked with you guys before I did something stupid ^_^;;08:57
moparfan90i have alot of space so i sthere a way to have ubuntu uncommpressed to spped it up? will that make itfaster?08:57
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bob2Hikaru79: you could get rid of them if you really knew what yo uwere doing, but it's not worth it; they use basically no ram or cpu08:57
skallerso bob2, is that pin: a=release=hoary08:58
bob2moparfan90: in what way is ubuntu currently "compressed"?08:58
bob2skaller: I'd think so08:58
onkarshindemoparfan90: there is no such thing.08:58
skalleroops, i mean pin: release a=hoary08:58
bob2I never use pinning, tho, so I might have screwed up the syntax08:58
tritiummoparfan90, I don't know of another distro that boots faster than ubuntu08:58
moparfan90i dont know when it starts it says uncommpressing ubuntu08:58
onkarshindemoparfan90: which desktop environment?08:58
moparfan90aaaa      e1708:58
moparfan90http://www.enlightenment.org/08:59
bob2moparfan90: that's loading the kernel itself, and takes < 3s08:59
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jlornwhich file do I edit to choose KDE desktop over Gnome08:59
bob2jlorn: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm08:59
moparfan90i know... is there any way to make it faster other then buying stuff?08:59
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Riddelljlorn: just log in to a KDE session08:59
onkarshindemoparfan90: I heard openbox is fastest.09:00
jlornthanks for the replies :-)09:00
moparfan90it is but i like this better09:00
bob2moparfan90: you haven't told us your specs, either09:00
moparfan90oosry09:00
skallerok, i have a pin .. how to I reinstall things?09:01
moparfan901.8 ghz amd atholon xp    256mb ram     120 gb HD    ubuntu is only thing on disk09:01
bob2skaller: I told yo uthat already; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:01
moparfan90i know i need more ram but im saving for a car09:01
skallersorry, yes yo udid09:01
onkarshindemoparfan90: 256MB RAM is quite good. I don't think you can expect more speed.09:02
Alex_BOHELLO! I'd like use my irda port, but i don't know how.I read about Linux-IRDA Project, but i don't know if i need to download the drivers too or if it provides them.09:02
moparfan90windows has disk defragmentation doesn ubuntu have something like that?09:03
skallerouch .. ok, thanks bob, so i downgrade .. then upgrade again ?09:03
bob2Alex_BO: www.linux-laptop.net09:03
bob2skaller: no09:03
Alex_BOmoparfan90, you don't need to do such kind of things09:03
bob2skaller: that command makes apt "upgrade" everything to the version in hoary09:03
bob2moparfan90: no09:03
paddedwallnext question - i've been developing a web site on my local box that uses css, javascript, php (5.03) and mysql (4.19). In order to test it, I've been uploading to my web host (a linux box).  Do I have to install Apache to get php and mysql to work?09:03
moparfan90ok but does ubuntu have it?09:03
moparfan90o09:03
moparfan90ok09:03
bob2moparfan90: unix filesystems suck less than windows ones09:04
bob2tho it would still be nice to get one09:04
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skallerit's actually removing all the security fixes etc09:04
moparfan90bob2, do you know anything that will incress my speed ever by a little09:04
bob2paddedwall: on your local machine?09:04
bob2skaller: yes09:04
moparfan90?09:04
njs12345i have a question09:04
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paddedwallyes, on the local machine09:04
BiSK-8hello09:04
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njs12345is there a good reason why the default command prompt doesn't have any colouring?09:04
Alex_BOmoparfan90, no: you don't need to do such things09:04
bob2moparfan90: you haven't really explained what bits are slow09:04
elviroloompaul, hi again09:04
bob2njs12345: because it would look annoying09:04
BiSK-8do u ppl know any java compiler and decompiler i can get with apt-get?09:04
njs12345bob2: not really09:04
MrFaberWhat is the best configuration file in ubuntu to define aliases?09:05
bob2skaller: upgrade them later, yeah; I didn't think of that09:05
bob2njs12345: I'd be annoyed if it did09:05
njs12345makes it much easier to read09:05
tritiumubotu, tell BiSK-8 about java09:05
ompaulelvirolo, did you get sorted09:05
njs12345for instance, colouring the working directory name blue09:05
bob2MrFaber: bah ones? /etc/bash.bashrc if you want them to be global09:05
Alex_BObob2, i quote you this: "Infrared,VIA module,Will certainly work in SIR mode. Not tested." What's SIR mode?09:05
njs12345or something like that09:05
MrFaberbob2, thanks09:05
moparfan90bob2, i have to go ill be back later but i just want to make anything i can faster.... ubuntu it sef not the software09:05
onkarshindepaddedwall: of course you will need apache for testing your site.09:05
bob2njs12345: that would look like crap on my black-background terminals09:05
moparfan90ill bbl09:05
elviroloompaul, i'm afraid not09:05
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tritiumAlex_BO, Serial InfraRed09:06
bob2Alex_BO: serial infrared; it's like a normal rs-232 serial port that works over ir09:06
elviroloompaul, isn't there a command i must run in order to make the script run automaticazlly?09:06
bob2(surprisingly;)09:06
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paddedwallcarp09:06
njs12345bob2: well, when you run ls the directories are coloured blue09:06
bob2njs12345: not by default they're not09:06
bob2njs12345: if you want to alias ls="ls --color=auto", go for it09:06
njs12345I don't remember changing anything, and they always have been for me09:06
Alex_BObob2, tritium: okey. what i need to make work it?09:06
Leshracjust out of curiosity, has anyone here managed to get eve-online working on linux?09:07
tritiumBiSK-8, did you read the URL I had ubotu provide?09:07
Hikaru79Does Gnome support fish:///?09:07
BiSK-8???09:07
BiSK-8no09:07
bob2Hikaru79: sftp://09:07
bob2that will work almost everywhere fish will09:07
tritiumubotu, tell BiSK-8 about java09:08
skallerone other question, how to reset hardware clock and tell ubuntu it isn't utc?09:08
LasseLpaddedwall, i havn't tried it but to me it seems like http://www.lighttpd.net/ could be easier to setup than apache09:08
onkarshinde!java09:08
ubotuwell, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java09:08
tritiumBiSK-8, you should have gotten it twice now09:08
bob2skaller: /etc/default/rcS09:08
skallerthx09:08
skallerdual booting XP .. windows thinks the clock is local time ;(09:08
Alex_BObob2, tritium: okey. what i need to make work it?09:08
tritiumAlex_BO, are you using hoary or breezy?09:09
Alex_BOtritium, hoary09:09
bob2Alex_BO: to make it do what?09:09
Alex_BObob2, to work09:09
Alex_BObob2, i don't know if i need to install drivers or not09:09
onkarshindeIs there anything as DSL modem with WiFi interface? Do they work well with Ubuntu?09:09
LasseLBiSK-8, for a java compile you'll want sun-j2sdk1.5 from ubuntu-extras09:09
ompaulelvirolo, well that file should live in init.d and a sym link should point back to that09:09
LeshracI have a question, I am trying to get hold of the .inf file to make ndiswrapper work, but the windows drivers come in a .exe windows installer, what can I do?09:09
skallerhow do you remember all this stuff bob?09:10
bob2onkarshinde: your system is unlikely to care about what type of AP you have09:10
bob2Leshrac: try running "unzip" on it09:10
tritiumBiSK-8, or build your own with make-jpkg, provided by java-package09:10
bob2skaller: by using linux daily for 4 years09:10
onkarshindebob2: I didn't get you. What is AP?09:10
BiSK-8ok09:10
Hikaru79bob2, thank you! =) Genious.09:10
BiSK-8thanks09:10
skalleri been using linux daily for more :)09:10
MrFaberonkarshinde, how can I define standard text editor :)09:10
Cryptidbob2, please check this page it has my Xlib error, tell me how to fix it09:10
skallerbut i'm not a system geek :)09:10
Cryptidbob2, please check this page it has my Xlib error, tell me how to fix it http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/226909:11
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bob2onkarshinde: presumably you're asking about a dsl modem with a built-in wireless access point09:11
MrFaberI personally like gvim more09:11
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Alex_BOtritium, bob2: please. tell me only if there are already the drivers into the OS or if i need to look for them09:11
bob2Cryptid: safe to ignore it09:11
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tritiumAlex_BO, not in hoary.  You have to build the modules from a source package in hoary09:11
bob2Alex_BO: you probably already have them, "less /var/log/dmesg" will tell you for sure09:12
bob2ah, definitiveness09:12
onkarshindebob2: I have no idea. My ISP site says that I can get a DSL modem which has one ethernet interface and one WiFi interface.09:12
patfmhi, i'm trying to set up a dual boot on my new laptop and i'm  abit flummoxed by the instructions at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//WindowsDualBootHowTo09:12
elviroloompaul, currently thde script is in /etc/rc5.d ... you mean i need to create a symlink in /etc/rc.d?09:12
onkarshindeMrFaber: No idea. It was easy in RedHat to do that. I don't know how to do in Ubuntu.09:12
bob2onkarshinde: right, which is an AP09:12
patfmhow do i create a new partition?09:12
bob2patfm: ignore it, that page was written by a crack monkey09:12
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runehTrying to compile the latest Banshee, and I get "Package requirements (mono >= 1.1.8) were not met" even though mono --version claims 1.1.8.3 is installed.09:13
ompaulelvirolo, #!/bin/sh  as the first line is needed :)09:13
Cryptidbob2, but i install gDesklets and i dont know how to run it, i mean it dosent load at startup can u help me with this09:13
bob2patfm: just boot the ubuntu cd, it will let you shrink the windows partition and make a new one09:13
Alex_BOtritium, bob2: you don't say the same thing :-)09:13
runehIt's some issue with pkgconfig maybe.09:13
bob2Cryptid: then read the instructions09:13
onkarshindebob2: Go it. I hope it really is what I am expecting it to be.09:13
bob2Alex_BO: believe tritium09:13
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bob2Cryptid: once you have the gdesklets daemon running (which you have), double click on the .desktop files in nautilus09:13
bob2Cryptid: /usr/share/gdesklets or so09:13
bob2onkarshinde: I can't think what else it would be09:14
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bob2runeh: dpkg -l mono | tail -n109:14
elviroloompaul, of course i'm so stupid09:14
elviroloompaul, but do i need a symlink as well?09:14
runehbob2: It claims the same.09:14
Cryptidbob2, if i run .desktop file will it work09:14
ompaulelvirolo, is also has to be in init.d and ln -s  real_name S99foo09:14
Alex_BOtritium, what's the name of this package? SIR or something like?09:14
bob2runeh: no, what exactly does it say09:14
bob2Cryptid: why don't you just try it?09:14
runehii  mono           1.1.8.3-1ubuntu1 Mono CLI (.NET) runtime09:14
patfmbob2:  i think i've successfully resized the ntfs partition. but apparently i need to change the "free space" i opened up into new partitions, one for ubuntu & one for swap. that's hwat i'm having trouble figuring out how to do09:15
tritiumAlex_BO, hold on, please.  I'm not running hoary...09:15
bob2patfm: hilight the free space, hit enter on it, I think09:15
njs12345patfm: yeah, I think bob's right09:15
bob2patfm: I always forget unless I have it in front of me...but you are on the home stretch now09:15
Alex_BOtritium, okey09:15
njs12345heh, I do the same09:15
patfmbob2: ah, duh :)09:15
Alex_BOtritium, what's the difference between haory and breeze?09:15
ompaulelvirolo, the correct place for that file is in /etc/rc2.d <<<  note the 209:15
bob2I've been stuck on that before because I thought too much09:15
njs12345Alex_BO: breezy is in active development09:15
skallerhey patfm, good idea to have 3 partitions09:16
bob2runeh: how are you installing "banshee"?09:16
Leshracthanks bob2, unzipping worked.09:16
njs12345so hence is unstable and could crash and so on09:16
runehFrom source.09:16
skallerseparate partition for /boot09:16
ompaulelvirolo, the correct place for that LINK is in /etc/rc2.d <<<  note the 209:16
runehI need the latest version, as I have an iPod Nano.09:16
njs12345but the software is more bleeding-edge, so to speak09:16
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Alex_BOnjs12345, thanks09:16
bob2Leshrac: (windows self-extracting zips are often zip files with some crap stuck on the front that the "unzip" program can ignore)09:16
bob2it's more "unstable" that it changes a lot09:16
bob2it's very rarely more crashey09:17
patfmskaller: i'm thinking at this it will look like: 5gigs system stuff, 25% for windoze, 1gig swap, the rest unbuntu09:17
njs12345yeah, it works fine for me :)09:17
njs12345.. but you might run into difficulty09:17
skalleryup, something like that could be ok09:17
Cryptidbob2, there is no .desktop file :-( now what do it do, i found the directory but no files there is a pack_sensor.py and some other .py file09:17
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skallerhow big is your disk?09:17
bob2patfm: sounds reasonable, unles you have a lot of ram09:17
bob2runeh: sudo apt-get build-dep banshee09:18
patfmbob2: unfortunately just 512 megs09:18
runehbob2: Thanks. I'll try that. :)09:18
bob2Cryptid: then those ones, I guess; it really has no instructions at all?09:18
bob2patfm: I was asking to make sure you have enough ram to be able to suspend-to-disk; should be fine09:18
tritiumAlex_BO, let's see if I'm wrong about hoary irda support.  Can you please: cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/net/irda ?09:19
tritiumor, modinfo irda09:19
patfmis there something special i need to do to indicate what role each partition will play now, or do i do that later?09:19
Cryptidbob2 i found the file in synaptic, i also tried some online help on few sites but it just dosent work09:19
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bob2patfm: once you've made them, it will show the list and you can tell it where to mount, what filesystem, etc09:19
bob2Cryptid: /usr/share/doc/gdesklets09:19
skallerpatfm, ubuntu cd partitioner will also set up mounts09:19
patfmokay, so i just need to get the relative sizes straight09:20
skallerand it is quite clever, it will set up grub to dual boot too :)09:20
njs12345patfm: as long as you indicate one as swap and one as /, it should work09:20
njs12345and the rest you can set up later09:20
MrFaberevolution seems to be very buggy but looks very well09:20
runehHrmpf. I get this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/227009:20
njs12345in fact, I don't think you even strictly need swap09:20
runehDo I need to install all the packages by hand?09:21
tritiumnjs12345, if you want to hibernate, you do09:21
bob2MrFaber: please do file bugs09:21
njs12345yeah, but you can always set up hibernation later09:21
Leshracwhen introducing: "sudo modprobe diswrapper" I get this error message: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitter09:21
tritiumnjs12345, but you need swap space for that09:21
bob2setting it up later is way more of a pain i nthe arse09:22
njs12345yeah, but you can resize partitions, can't you?09:22
bob2not trivially09:22
bob2and it's filesystem-dependant09:22
njs12345hm09:22
njs12345eh09:22
bob2runeh: install libdbus-glib-1-dev, then try again09:22
paddedwallbob: this whole web server thing seems a bit over the top - is there an easier way?09:23
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runehbob2: Same error.09:23
bob2paddedwall: eh?09:23
njs12345runeh: you're running the configure script right?09:23
bob2installing a web server is about the simplest thing to do09:23
onkarshindebob2: I am trying to install dvdrip. It depends on transcode which depends on certain version of libgcc1 which is not there in repositories. what do I do?09:23
bob2sudo aptitude install apache209:23
bob2all done09:23
runehnjs12345: Yes.09:23
njs12345if you know a little bash, you could always try to hack that bit out of the script09:23
bob2onkarshinde: your version of transcode is crap09:24
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bob2njs12345: that's not of any use09:24
tritiumruneh, that package is in main.09:24
paddedwalltodon't i also need the mod-php4 lib too?09:24
runehnjs12345: I'll need the libs anyways.09:24
onkarshindebob2: I am installing from extras09:24
MrFaberbob2, you mean sending dump to devs or create a bt with gdb?09:24
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bob2onkarshinde: then bitch at them for being idiots09:24
runehtritium: I need the latest version for my iPod Nano.09:24
paddedwallor does apache "have it all"?  :)09:24
njs12345oh, sorry09:24
MrFaberbob2, or just click inform devs or something like that09:24
bob2MrFaber: both would be great, in bugzilla09:24
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bob2paddedwall: sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php4 php4-mysql09:24
runeh:)09:24
onkarshindebob2: How do i do that?09:25
bob2paddedwall: perhaps mysql-server if yo ucare about that09:25
bob2onkarshinde: on the forums, I guess09:25
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MrFabercu all09:25
bob2none of them ever show up on irc to support their broken stuff09:25
bob2(afaict)09:25
getVOIPfromMElol09:25
skallerwho?09:25
skallersoftware developers?09:25
onkarshindebob2: Where can I find dvdrip in source format or any such other program?09:25
Cryptidbob2, /usr/share/doc/gdesklets no such directory exist :-(,,, My life sux09:25
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gr3g1hey guys, how can i execute something before x loads?09:26
tritiumruneh, try dbus-glib-1-dev09:26
bob2Cryptid: do yo ureally have gdesklets installed?09:26
bob2gr3g1: to do what?09:26
runehtritium: Allready did.09:26
tritiumruneh, or use breezy09:26
gr3g1915resoltuon, a tool to patch memory in the vbios..09:26
gr3g1its a bash script09:26
bob2haha i91509:26
runehtritium: I am. ;)09:27
bob2gr3g1: cp /etc/init.d/{skeleton,unbreakintel}, edit it, use update-rc.d to install it09:27
gr3g1i have i845G :( resolution really sucks09:27
tritiumruneh, then you should be able to find libdbus-glib-1-dev in the main repo09:27
bob2onkarshinde: dude, that's in multiverse...09:27
Hoxzercan I somehow edit azureus to open folder with nautilus when I select "open download folder" in it?09:27
gr3g1bob2: can i pm?09:27
elviroloompaul, still doesn't work ... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/227209:27
runehI installed it, but I still can't get sudo apt-get build-dep banshee to work.09:28
patfmso is the received wisdom of ubuntunia that a swap partition is my friend? heh09:28
runehGetting the same error as here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/227009:28
bob2gr3g1: no09:28
gr3g1ok sorry09:28
tritiumSorry, runeh.  I've got to get going.  Good luck.09:28
bob2runeh: oh well, you'll have to select everything fro mthat list and install it with apt yourself09:28
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paddedwallbob2: now what?  (just kidding - grin)09:28
runehThanks.09:28
skallerpatfm, you should have a swap partition!!09:28
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gr3g1i dont get : cp /etc/init.d/{skeleton,unbreakintel}09:28
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bob2gr3g1: that's a command to run09:28
runehbob2: I was hoping to avoid that, but what the hell ...09:28
jakedahnhey, can someone help me get sound on my mac mini running kubuntu?09:28
Leshracdoes anyone have any idea on why I get a Fatal error message when trying to run "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"?09:28
gr3g1i just added a file called res.sh into the init.d folder09:29
bob2runeh: it's just  cutting and pasting a few lines09:29
bob2Leshrac: doesn't sound like your card is supported by that version of ndiswrapper09:29
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bob2gr3g1: then use update-rc.d to install it into the runlevels09:29
Leshrachow can I heck if it is supported in a altter version?09:29
patfmokay, i will have one. thx skaller09:29
skalleralso, patfm is windows using ntfs, good idea to make a small FAT partition too09:29
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skallerboth Linux and Windows can read an write Fat partition09:30
patfmshould the partitions i create be pimary or logical?09:30
patfmntfs, it's xp09:30
bob2patfm: doesn't matter09:30
annexHow can I check what version of a driver Xorg is using for my video card?  I'm trying to troubleshoot an upgrade and I think it's because the free 'ati' driver has changed.09:30
jakedahnhey, can someone help me get sound on my mac mini running kubuntu? Anyine at all?09:30
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skallerbob2, there is some kind of limit on primary partitions ?09:30
bob2annex: /var/log/, X.org.log09:30
bob2skaller: 409:30
bob2skaller: for windows, anyway09:31
gr3g1bob2: there is no update-rc files in /etc/init.d09:31
bob2jakedahn: I assume you found out using google if it's supposed to work with your kernel version or not?09:31
skallerso best to have 1 primary partition for Linux and one for Windows, make others logical09:31
annexbob2: I just thought of that before you said it... thanks ;-)09:31
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bob2gr3g1: indeed, I said update-rc.d, and it's a command, not a file in that dir09:31
jakedahnbob2: nope09:31
skalleri hate dual booting ;((09:31
bob2jakedahn: then go do so09:31
jakedahnbob2: ill do that now lol09:31
bob2Leshrac: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto09:32
elviroloompaul, is there anything wrong with what i did ?09:32
onkarshindeskaller: Then dump windows as I did09:32
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skallerhehe .. I need windows for two reasons: (1) test my software on it and (2) play games09:32
skallernot saying which is most important .. :)09:33
patfmskaller: why do you hate it? i just have to keep windwos because i have to test layout in i.e. *puke*09:33
getVOIPfromMEOnly reason for a dual-boot is to have training wheels while you learn Linuc09:33
onkarshindebob2: If I add ftp repositories in sources.list instead of http with apt-get download packages faster?09:33
getVOIPfromME*Linux09:33
onkarshindeskaller: I heard that cedega is good for running windows games on linux09:33
runehbob2: Thanks for your help. It seems to work now. At least I got through configure. :)09:33
patfmactually i haven't used windows for years. that's why i don't know any of this partitioning nonsense : )09:34
skalleronkarshide, thx, I will have a look09:34
jjazz_patfm, I think you might be able to run IE in WINE, no?09:34
Cryptidbob2, yes i really have gdesklets installed what do u thing the problem do u want me to completely remove it then restart and try t install it again09:34
bob2onkarshinde: not unless your network is broken09:35
bob2runeh: np09:35
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bob2Cryptid: no09:35
patfmjjazz_: possibly, i've never tried it. anyway, i'll try and if it works out later i'll just wipe the disk & install linux everywhere09:35
onkarshindejjazz_: I suppose for running IE in wine you will have to install complete windows since IE is integrated with Windows09:35
skallerWineX was renamed to Cedeg ... nice09:35
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gr3g1bob2: i did update-rc.d res.sh defaults09:36
gr3g1is that good/09:36
jjazz_onkarshinde, but isn't all that functoinality in the DLLs that are replicated by the WINE project?09:36
ompaulelvirolo, did you add that line to the start of the file?09:36
onkarshindejjazz_: I am not sure about it.09:36
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patfmso let me get this straight... here's my theoretical partitioning: 5g system junk, 25% ntfs for xp, 1gig logical swap, 10gig logical fat, the rest primary for ubuntu09:36
getVOIPfromMECedega supports DirectX - WINE does not09:37
onkarshindejjazz_: I still think you may not be able to run IE. Any other windows application but not IE.09:37
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Cryptidbob2, then what do thing i should do, i think it would be better if i forget about it, isnt it?09:37
amonkeyi can't seem to stream stuff from windwos media encoder to totem even though have the win32codecs. any ideas?09:37
elviroloompaul, in /etc/init.d/wifi ?09:37
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athlonjust installed clamav. When I run it, it says that the virus definition is outdated. But even if I do "sudo freshclam", it still says it's outdated09:37
mjrgetVOIPfromME, incorrect, though Cedega's support is more complete09:37
jjazz_onkarshinde, I've had hte unfortuante experience of having to study how IE is integrated into Windows.  It's all in the DLLs.  The integration is just hooks.09:37
jjazz_patfm, onkarshinde, http://patrick.spacesurfer.com/ie_wine_install.html09:38
getVOIPfromMEamonkey: apt-get install totem-xine09:38
onkarshindejjazz_: That is good. But I am not interested anyway.09:38
bob2gr3g1: did you read the hel pfor how update-rc.d works?09:38
getVOIPfromMEmjr: used to be the case....09:38
bob2athlon: you know you don't need clamav for ubuntu itself, right?09:38
durthow do you get the subscripts and superscripts to go above a sigma in texmacs (or just in tex)?09:39
amonkeygetVOIPfromME, i have the xine version of totem already09:39
jjazz_durt, /j #latex09:39
amonkeyi can't get xine to accept a url either, where do i go for that09:39
bob2durt: f^y, iirc09:39
getVOIPfromMEamonkey: do you get sound?09:39
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njs12345onkarshinde: a setup like that is actually pretty cool if you do web devel09:39
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durtthanks09:39
gr3g1bob2: yes, but it still didnt load09:39
Hikaru79I've installed j2sdk1.5-sun from a third-party repository. However, 'java' is still a symlink to gij. Is it okay to redirect that symlink to the /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/bin/java file? (javac is already linking to the right place, by the way)09:39
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athlonbob2, my windows partition is almost certainly just got infected by virus but clamav in windows itself says theres no virus, so I want to scan the partition for virus from ubuntu09:40
njs12345onkarshinde: because it lets you test a page in basically all three major engines without rebooting (gecko, IE, khtml)09:40
skallerdurt, that won't do it: use \sum not \sigma09:40
bob2gr3g1: is it listed in /etc/rc2.d?09:40
amonkeygetVOIPfromME, totem freezes when i put in the http://xxxxx:8081 url09:40
bob2Hikaru79: yes, but it may get overwritten09:40
bob2athlon: right09:40
Hikaru79bob2, what may get overwritten?09:41
onkarshindenjs12345: With IE being crappy about supporting w3c standards, you are never sure that something will work on all versions of IE. So it is better to test for gecko and khtml.09:41
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njs12345onkarshinde: true09:41
njs12345but for any serious webdevel you really need to make it work in IE too09:41
durtthanks skaller ill see09:41
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bob2Hikaru79: the symlink, when gij gets updated09:41
njs12345sadly09:41
njs12345or at least IE609:41
Zatoichiis there a repository list somewhere?09:42
onkarshindenjs12345: I am seeing death of IE with upcomng of FF 1.509:42
gr3g1bob2: tes it is09:42
njs12345hopefully IE7 will be better in that regard09:42
gr3g1bob2: yes***09:42
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patfmnjs12345: how well does konqueror correspond to safari's rendering engine, do you know? there's also going to be a lot of javascript in my stuff  -- do they use the same javascirpt interpreter?09:42
mik3whats the command to reconfigure xorg config?09:42
skalleri cant double check durt, if you like .. have a couple of tex books here .. used to write lots of it09:42
jack-zatoichi: nice nick :)09:42
njs12345patfm: They're fairly close09:42
Zatoichidomo09:42
njs12345mik3: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?09:42
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mik3thanks09:42
Octanedoes Kubuntu Breezy need qt4?09:42
lorenzodOctane, no09:43
bob2gr3g1: then it will run on boot09:43
Hikaru79bob2, drat. It never did this in hoary -- is there any way to make gij play nice?09:43
Octanelorenzod: thanks09:43
bob2Octane: is qt4 even out yet?09:43
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lorenzodbob2: yes09:43
njs12345patfm: they don't correspond exactly, but it's the closest you're going to get without.. ahem.. fiddling around with Intel OSX or buying a Mac09:43
Octanebob2: yup it even has packages on universe09:43
gr3g1bob2; I put in a 'echo Changing screen res' and sleep 3 .. i didnt see that when i booted09:43
ompaulelvirolo, that would be a good place for what we were trying to do09:43
bob2ah, last month09:43
lorenzodIs anybody else having problems with nautilus and gnome-panel?09:44
lorenzodThat is: current Breezy.09:44
bob2gr3g1: what is the name of it in /etc/rc2.d?09:44
Octanemmmmmmmmmmm breezy09:44
bob2lorenzod: please do file a bug if no one else has09:44
skallerdurt, yup \sum^{i=1}_{n} x_i09:44
lorenzodSpecifically, they eat *all* the core.09:44
Zatoichilink to repository list, anyone?09:44
Octanecan someone give me any tips on how to control the size of my logs? i got a million logs and theyre all giagnatic09:44
gr3g1bob2: S20res.sh09:44
elviroloompaul, sry, what place?09:44
ZatoichiOctane, logrotate?09:45
getVOIPfromMElol - I never mess with something untill it is officially released. Everytime I do, it breaks something majorly09:45
ompaulelvirolo, that /etc/init.d/wifi09:45
OctaneZatoichi: that roatest them it doesnt truncate them :)09:45
CryptidWhat is X11?????09:45
mik3how do i make my new xserver-xorg settings take effect without rebooting?09:45
lorenzodbob2: intend to. but I'd like to know if anybody else has experienced it.09:45
dell500how would I get dhttpd installed? apt-get install dhttpd??09:45
mik3Cryptid : it's the x server09:45
Octanemik3: exit your window manager and then in the login hit CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to restart X09:45
jack-zatoichi: for breezy or hoary?09:45
bob2gr3g1: and the scritp runs properly when run as 'sudo /etc/init.d/res.sh start'?09:45
Zatoichisorry, hoary.09:46
gr3g1yup09:46
gr3g1bob2: yup09:46
bob2Cryptid: the thing that displays graphics on your screen09:46
jack-i'll just paste you my sources.list ok?09:46
elviroloompaul, yeah, i pasted its content in the paste bin09:46
bob2dell500: does that exist in ubuntu?09:46
Leshracbob2: I have found that my brother's computer has an ASUS pci wireless lan card, is there any chance that it will work if I exchange cards between computers?09:46
amonkeyhow can i get the WMV3 codec?09:46
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patfmskaller: should that fat partition be fat16 or fat32?09:47
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onkarshindeamonkey: never heard of it.09:47
bob2Leshrac: depends what chipset that is09:47
dell500bob2, no idea, i was just wanting to get a simple web server up to host some pics09:47
bob2amonkey: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats09:47
bob2dell500: apache2 will be much less hassle09:47
amonkeyonkarshinde, it's what vlc says it needs too play a widnows media encoder stream09:47
onkarshindedell500: apache209:47
skallerpatfm, fat32, and only a small partition for exchanging files09:47
Leshracbob2: and only way to check is plugging it in and running lspci?09:47
dell500bob2, apt-get install apache2 ??09:48
skalleri forgot to do that .. had to buy a ram stick09:48
ZatoichiOctane, I beleive mine are compressed, every week, up untill 4, then the oldest one is removed.09:48
OctaneZatoichi: interesting, that does it automatically or you remove them09:48
patfmskaller: like a gig or something? the only thing i can see wating to shuffle back and forth would be mp3s, i guess09:48
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bob2Leshrac: or reading the box, or looking at the chips on it or ...09:49
bob2dell500: yes09:49
njs12345I use a program called explore2fs quite a lot09:49
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Zatoichilook in  /etc/logrotate.conf09:49
njs12345lets you get read-only ext2/3 access in windows09:49
skalleryou have to decide, useful for emails, mp3s, whatever ..09:49
Leshracbob2:ok, let me a sec I have the card in front of me09:49
njs12345and in linux you can read ntfs09:49
njs12345so basically you get the advantages of having a small fat32 partition without the waste of space09:49
dell500does anyone know how to find out what model (if not present) of an AirLink+ router?? i don't want to upgrade the wrong firmware and i can't seem to find the model number09:49
skallerright, but sometimes useful to read and write from both sides09:50
amonkeybob2, i already have w3scodecs and totem-xine, and i still can't player wmv streams. streams being operative, cuz i can play wmv's just fine.09:50
Leshracbob2: is WL-138G a chipset?09:50
jjazz_dell500, does your router have a web-based config?  Wouldn't it say in there?09:50
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patfmi have a big external usb drive09:50
bob2amonkey: can mplayer?09:50
bob2Leshrac: no09:50
njs12345skaller: yes, but read-only access from both sids is similiar09:50
patfmmaybe that would suffice for moving stuff09:50
dell500jjazz_, i've looked, but it doesn't seem to be in there for some reason09:50
dell500let me check one more time09:50
mik3good thing i installed an ssh server, i chose the wrong resolution default and it wouldn't restart xorg =D09:51
njs12345patfm: yup, sounds pretty good09:51
skalleryeah, i would like one of them too patfm09:51
jakedahnum... i found a link to this http://www.pvv.org/~perchrh/macmini/linux26-macmini-sound.patch   but i dont know how to install the patch can someone help me09:51
njs12345mik3: you could always use the Ctrl+Alt+F1/F2/F3.. consoles09:51
njs12345if you didn't know about them09:51
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jjazz_dell500, call tech support.  They probably have a series of questions they can ask you about the device to ID it.  Or did you look at the bottom of the unit?09:51
bob2jakedahn: that would require a kernel recompile09:51
gr3g1bob2: is there any other way?09:51
bob2gr3g1: no09:51
jakedahnbob: are you sure?09:51
black_13does the ubuntu boot cds use isolinux or grub as the bootloader09:51
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dell500jjazz_, ya,  i looked at the whole thing09:52
bob2jakedahn: yes, it's a kernel patch09:52
ntumbaHi everyone. I was wondering if some of you could help me with my new ubuntu installation. I installed ubuntu in English and I would also like to have it in French09:52
amonkeybob2, mplyaer complains about 400:bad request but i know the server is working cuz a winsows based install of wmp can stream it. but curiously not mpc.09:52
zenlunaticanyone using breezy powepc?09:52
jakedahnbob2:ok well how do i do it?09:52
jjazz_tech support can almost definitely do it09:52
zenlunaticshould i wait for breezy to go official and stick with hoary or should i go for breezy now?09:52
bob2jakedahn: not simply09:52
njs12345jakedahn: it's quite a difficult thing to do, really ;)09:52
bob2zenlunatic: do yo ucare about binary X drivers?09:53
benplaut!codecs09:53
ubotufrom memory, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:53
bob2zenlunatic: oh, ppc,09:53
onkarshindegoodbye everybody. Gooing to bed.09:53
benplaut!botsnack09:53
ubotu:)09:53
jakedahnIs it like making the kernel for gentoo?09:53
elvirolooh i'm getting fed up, it still doesn't work09:53
bob2zenlunatic: should be fine; do files bugs if you find them09:53
zenlunaticbob2: no i don't use non-free software09:53
jjazz_onkarshinde, peace09:53
bob2jakedahn: a little09:53
njs12345maybe you could file a bug for it09:53
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elviroloi mean why doesn't ubuntu do that *by default* ??09:53
jakedahnbob2 is it easier? because ive done that before09:53
bob2jakedahn: I have never compiled a kernel on gentoo09:54
jakedahnaye09:54
bob2elvirolo: do what by default?09:54
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zenlunaticbob2 will i be able to upgrade to breezy release from the testing breezy or whatever its called?09:54
durtthanks skaller it works :)09:54
bob2zenlunatic: of course09:54
elvirolobob2, activate my wifi network interface at boot time09:54
zenlunaticbob2 apt-get dist-upgrade?09:54
jjazz_zenlunatic, that's kinda the whole point  :)09:54
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ntumbadoes anybody know how to make language packs work? I installed the french pack using synapic but when I log in with french the system says it doesn't exists and reverts to standard english language09:54
njs12345jakedahn: There are some instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto09:54
bob2jakedahn: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12 ; cd /usr/src, unpack it ; apply that patch ; cd to source dir ; make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image09:54
skallerI quoted from Knuth  :)09:55
jakedahnok09:55
bob2zenlunatic: or aptitude or synaptic, yes09:55
bob2adios, y'all09:55
jjazz_bob2, peace09:55
skallerthx bob2!!!09:55
Octanebob2 is the man09:56
jakedahnthx for your help09:56
Leshracadios ;)09:56
patfmseeya bob209:56
njs12345bob2: good to talk to you09:56
zenlunaticwill the auto updater upgrade from the testing breezy to stable breezy?09:56
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Leshracok guys, I have got this wlan card:09:56
LeshracMArvell Technology Group LTd. Marvell W8300 802.1109:57
Leshrachow do I get it t work?09:57
clarknovayeah, someone tell Leshrac how to get his lan card to work. i need to know this too.09:58
zenlunatic:-D09:58
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Alex_BOHELLO! I have to modify the file /etc/conf.module, but i can't find it.where is it in ubuntu?10:01
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reffieanyone with ubuntu on a powerbook/10:01
amonkeyjust a little update if anyone cares, you can't stream wm9, it has to be in wm8 format, and even though it appears to only work in vlc.10:02
benplaut[breezy]  I followed normal instructions to enable codecs, but in every media player, the size of the box is correct, the length is correct, sound works, but no video10:02
robertjAlex: I think your looking for /etc/modules.conf10:02
benplautany suggestions?10:02
Alex_BOrobertj, tnks10:02
durtalex, i think your looking for /etc/modules10:02
robertjwhich basically says "edit /etc/modutils and then run update-modules"10:02
falconXI've got an error with dual screens in Ubuntu, using TwinView10:03
Alex_BOrobertj, i can't find it!10:03
skallerskaller@rosella:/work/felix/flx$ cat /etc/modules10:03
skaller# /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.10:03
skaller...10:03
patfmhope this isn't annoying to ask one more time, but anyone think this partition table is problematic before i write it: http://ruphus.com/stash/partitions.jpg10:03
Alex_BOskaller, okey. i have found it10:04
skallerpatfm .. looks ok to me10:04
robertjhrmm, I've got both10:04
robzonpatfm: yeah, it's ok10:04
skaller80 gig disk?10:04
Leshracinstalling grub has broken my WinXP installation, is there anything I can do to fix it?10:05
patfmskaller: yeah10:05
zenlunatichow do u upgrade to breezy from hoary?10:05
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robzonzenlunatic: insert breezy CD while running hoary10:05
durtchange your repos, then apt-get distupgrade10:05
robzonzenlunatic: or upgrade directly from repositories... but I find upgrading from CD easier10:05
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M3hdirobzon:breezy is available as live CD only10:05
falconXI keep getting this: (II) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s): CRT-0, CRT-110:06
falconX(WW) NVIDIA(0): Multiple displays connected, but only one display allowed;10:06
benplautM3hdi: no it isn't...10:06
zenlunatichm... i think i might just wait for breezy release and do fresh install10:06
robzonM3hdi: uh, so how did I get to download breezy install CD? :)10:06
zenlunaticM3hdi: yeah its not10:06
M3hdirobzon:donu10:06
robertjDoes the liveCD include Ubuntu Express yet?10:06
patfmskaller: look sensible to you?10:06
skalleryup, looks fine10:06
M3hdirobzon:sorry it's preview release10:07
skallerpartition is personal thing: I have a few more, I have one for my work so I don't lose it when I screw up the OS10:07
patfmokay. /me lights rocket10:07
robzonzenlunatic: I upgraded from CD and everything went smoothly10:07
zenlunaticrobertj: whats ubuntu express?10:07
M3hdirobzon:you can't just upgrade with apt ?10:07
Alex_BOIS THERE anybody how can help me to install irda connection?10:07
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tscherlerhi all10:08
robertjzenulunatic: GUI installer10:08
zenlunaticrobzon: its just that i don't have a real compelling reason to need breezy10:08
MrFaberIs it possible that Ubuntu has now two screensavers?10:08
robzonM3hdi: you can, but I didn't want to wait for apt to download all the stuff10:08
MrFaberunder Preferences are two different ones10:08
zenlunaticMrFaber: it comes with many screensavers10:08
M3hdirobzon:ok tnx10:08
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maeOMG10:08
MrFaberzenlunatic, thanks, how can I use normal xscreensaver10:08
robertjI'm holding out, this might be the first time I make it all the way to stable release without dist-upgrading10:09
maePacman ss is sweet!10:09
zenlunaticMrFaber: i would probably start with man pages10:09
tscherlermy laptop do not read the install cd10:09
MrFaberthe screensaver daemon isn't started if I start it10:09
MrFaberman pages of screensaver?10:09
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zenlunaticrobertj: plus i installed a lot of crap i don't need just to test some different software i really just want to reinstall to get rid of it all10:09
tscherlereverztime I come to "Install the base system" it crashed saying that there is no cd10:09
Zatoichidamn power companies10:10
tscherlerhow can install  from a server?10:10
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nyktovusok10:17
nyktovusi was aking about getting mplayer10:18
nyktovusbut i dont know what repositories to use10:18
OceanNoPontoshello! anyone here upgraded the repository from hoary to breeze to get gnome 2.12?10:18
OceanNoPontosit went all well to me, except for an annoying bug on the panel...10:18
nyktovusi just wanna watch movies in firefox10:18
OceanNoPontosI can't add new applets 'cause it crashes. :)10:18
OceanNoPontosanyone here experienced the same problem?10:19
] N[ameive installed breezy 2x but have reverted back to hoary till breezy goes gold10:19
athlon /j #methlabs10:19
] N[ameto many issues10:19
nyktovushow can i tell if i'm using hoary or warty?10:19
] N[amelook and see what repositories you are using10:20
nyktovusthats the issue.. i dont know what repositories to use10:20
OceanNoPontosI thought on using Enlightenment as a window manager, but got no clue on setting that on gnome.10:20
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floppyearshi10:21
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] N[amenyktovus, open update manager and go into settings it will tell you what repositories you are using10:21
OceanNoPontosthe key that used to set that says to be deprecated from gnome 2.12 on... so I just wanted to drop metacity and stay with enlightenment.10:21
floppyearshow can I run samba so that it will remount my shares ?10:21
nyktovusi wanna get mplayer, i dont know what repositories to use.. i need to know what version of ubuntu i'm running so i can find the right repositories.. or am i totally backwards?10:21
dougsknyktovus, cat /etc/issue10:21
nyktovusi dont have an update manager10:21
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] N[ameyou dont10:21
] N[ameits in system\administration10:22
dougsk!restrictedformats10:22
uboturumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'10:22
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jatoshi10:22
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nyktovusubuntu 4.10 .. warty10:22
nyktovusthankx doug10:22
floppyearsanybody know how to remount samba mounts ?10:22
dougsknyktovus, try reading the wiki entry for restricted formats -- np10:22
jatosis breezy particuarly stable?10:23
OceanNoPontosglloppy: it should be enough to add them to fstab, no?10:23
nyktovusi did.10:23
dougskjatos, beats me -- afaik -- from reading the lists, it's a lot more stable than it was10:23
test34-how do I add drm module for xorg ? add it in the module section of xorg.conf ?10:23
nyktovusi tried working with it.. but i cant figure out what repositores to use10:23
benplaut[breezy]  I followed normal instructions to enable codecs, but in every media player, the size of the box is correct, the length is correct, sound works, but no video10:23
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] N[amejatos, not for me, it was fast but unstable10:23
] N[amenautilus kept crashing10:23
jatosI want to make sure that other people find it stable before I go get it10:24
jatosah10:24
OceanNoPontosno one could help me with the enlightenment thing? :(10:24
jatoswell I am using kde....10:24
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dougsknyktovus, being on warty, hmm, not sure if the repos are still open, I imagine they are, I'll take a look10:24
] N[ameevery time I accessed my usb drives nautilus crashed10:24
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jatosI think the warty, hoary and breezy repos's are all still open10:24
OceanNoPontosName: you have ***replaced*** ***all*** of your repositories with breezy?10:24
] N[ameno10:25
] N[ameI clean installed breezy10:25
__filip_what does i need to look at an .wmv movie ?10:25
] N[amebut reinstalled hoary10:25
jatosbtw, ] n[ame, why don't you run apt-get dist-upgrade10:25
] N[amebecause breezy was to unstable10:25
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jatosget hoary, thats stable10:25
] N[amehoary is wicked stable10:25
Hoxzerif I just installed software with wine to C driver where should it be?10:25
JDahl__filip_, you can use many programs, eg. mplayer10:25
] N[ameill wait till breezy goes final10:26
jatosso why just upgrade to hoary and ditch warty10:26
__filip_is it no codec i need?10:26
solidgroovei was trying to load adobe font with cedega I changed it to another font and everything works good10:26
jatosok10:26
dougsknyktovus, they appear to work, so you'll need to change hoary to warty and that should work10:26
OceanNoPontoswhat I wanted the most was the new features of nautilus, now I can't go back to 2.10 or I'll hate it, he he he10:26
kevogodWhat's a good email client for use with an Exchange server? (Evolution crashes on me all the time.)10:26
] N[ameI gotta say I liked what I saw in breezy10:26
] N[amejust waiting till its stable now10:26
OceanNoPontoskevogod: have you tried mozilla thunderbird/10:26
test34-how can you open files with admin privilages in a text editor for example ?10:27
OceanNoPontostest34: sudo10:27
test34-privileges..10:27
] N[ametest34-, sudo gedit10:27
jatoshas breezy got much new for KDE users?10:27
OceanNoPontosor gksu gedit10:27
OceanNoPontosthe cute way. :)10:27
kevogodOceanNoPontos, Does it integrate with an Exchange server well?10:27
test34-thanks name10:27
] N[amekevogod, no10:27
] N[amethunderbird does not support exchange10:27
] N[amenot that I can see10:27
kevogodThat is what I thought as my parents use it on their Windows machine.10:28
] N[ameonly pop and imap10:28
OceanNoPontostest34: that's googling:10:28
OceanNoPontosMozillaNews - Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 Getting Started Guide - [ Traduzir esta pgina ] 10:28
OceanNoPontosMozilla Thunderbird works very well with MS Exchange, both receiving and sending.10:28
] N[ameOceanNoPontos, is there a howto to set it up10:28
OceanNoPontoskevogod, name: or they're lying on us. :)10:28
] N[ameI think they are lying10:29
] N[amelol10:29
windexthunderbird supports exchange via imap, ] N[ame10:29
OceanNoPontossee that to configure it:10:29
OceanNoPontoshttp://www.lancs.ac.uk/iss/ras/thunderbird.htm10:29
windexit does not support calandar junk, among other things.10:29
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OceanNoPontosthere's a topic:10:29
OceanNoPontosConfiguring an Existing Copy Thunderbird to read University Exchange Email10:29
OceanNoPontosthere is an example there.10:29
kevogodDoes it do more than just Email?10:29
windexif you want more complete exchange integration you're kind of forced to use evolution10:29
kevogodCalander, Tasklist, Exchange contacts?10:29
OceanNoPontoskevogod: no, mozilla has split their apps.10:30
OceanNoPontosCalendar and tasklist no.10:30
kevogodI realize Sunbird is the Calander application.10:30
OceanNoPontosjust mail.10:30
OceanNoPontoskevogod: yep, you're right.10:30
Davey|Laptopkevogod, might try Evolution?10:30
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windexkevogod, sunbird dosen't work with exchange, either10:30
] N[ameevolution works well with exchange10:30
kevogodI already pointed out that Evolution crashes like 80% of the time for me.10:30
windexevolution however is designed to replace outlook and has an outlook interface10:30
OceanNoPontosbut sunbird I think is very new...10:30
kevogodIt is very unstable.10:30
Davey|Laptopdammit, for a minute there I was dreaming I was back on Ubuntu :(10:30
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windexkevogod, dunno why.10:31
] N[ameive had no issues with evo and exchange10:31
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OceanNoPontoskevogod: my evolution is just "lazy" or "not so fast"...10:31
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OceanNoPontosand I took the risk on getting it from breezy...10:31
odatubuntuhello everyone10:31
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sorush20how do I get evolution to download the images with the email.. just like thunderbird10:31
OceanNoPontoswhat kind of problems are you facing?10:31
windexkevogod, i only stopped using evolution because it frequently wouldn't update my imap folders, it would say it was, but i'd re-open evolution, and a bunch of stuff was still marked as new10:31
odatubuntudoes anyone know how i can setup my gamepad for soldiers of fortune?10:31
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OceanNoPontosexcept on that it is rock solid, even from breezy. :)10:32
OceanNoPontossorush20, anyone using enlightenment with gnome here?10:32
kevogodI am using Exchange protocol rather than Imap.10:32
OceanNoPontosI mean, so10:32
OceanNoPontosI hate xchat habit to complete nicks, he he h10:33
] N[ameim using openbox as metacity is uber slow10:33
Hoxzeraaargh what the fuck10:33
jatosbtw does anyone have any idea why I can't update my shipit info and order some more cd's?10:33
Hoxzernobody is listening10:33
Hoxzerme10:33
kevogodOceanNoPontos, Only occurs when you tab complete it.10:33
OceanNoPontosname: how did you do that?10:33
jatosmetacity sucks big time if you ask me10:33
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OceanNoPontos(Using openbox)10:33
] N[ameI followed the guide10:34
] N[ameit was wicked eazy10:34
OceanNoPontosname: where could I find it, dude?10:34
] N[ameill get the link10:34
zenlunaticyou can't use openbox and metacity10:34
OceanNoPontosname: thanks10:34
odatubuntudoes anyone know how i can setup my gamepad for soldiers of fortune?10:34
] N[amehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34239&highlight=openbox+themes10:35
OceanNoPontoszenlunatic: he replaced metacity with openbox... ;)10:35
OceanNoPontosname: thanks a lot.10:35
benplaut[breezy]  I followed normal instructions to enable codecs, but in every media player, the size of the box is correct, the length is correct, sound works, but no video10:35
] N[ameno problem10:35
] N[ameit does not work in breezy10:35
] N[ameonly hoary10:35
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CoryKto upgrade to breezy from 4.10 (warty?) do i just follow the steps on the wiki page, or is it a little more complicated (i remember last time i upgraded to a different version it required changing some config options...)10:35
robzonhmm there's no transcode for 64-bit processors? :/10:36
Hoxzersomebody help me with wine10:36
] N[amebut breezy is fast even with metacity10:36
Hoxzerwhy there is no starter guide :D10:36
robzonHoxzer: starter guide? just open it up, drink and enjoy ;] 10:36
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Hoxzerrobzon: :D10:36
Hoxzersoftware10:37
JDahlHoxzer, but there is starter guide! man pages10:37
=== ] N[ame loves the wine
HoxzerJDahl: I dont see any10:37
Octanewhy the hell does a kubuntu breezy aptitude dist-upgrade want to install qt4 packages?10:37
Octaneanyone have a clue?10:37
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CoryKbecause kde is built on qt...10:37
] N[ameOctane, there may be some software that has dependancies10:37
kevogodWhy does aptitude not have Super Cow Powers?10:38
Octanekevogod: sure it does10:38
windexkevogod, apt-get moo10:38
windexkevogod, aptitude moo10:38
CrTrHow to open .chm ?10:38
] N[ameapt-get ftw10:38
kevogod"There are no Easter Eggs in this program."10:38
CrTris that 4 me ?10:38
HoxzerI mean I install it10:39
Hoxzer....10:39
Hoxzerit is there10:39
Hoxzerbut I dunno how to run it10:39
Octanefrigggin openoffice.org2 aint working10:39
robzonHoxzer: wine program.exe :)10:39
kevogodI wish they would just release it. :-)10:39
nyktovuswell i cant install mplayer.. its in the repository list.. but it says there are a bunch of dependencies that cannot be installed?10:39
Octanewhy has there not been a good apt-get gui for KDE10:40
HoxzerRobzon: how do I know the name of the program :E10:40
Octanekynaptic is such a pile of crapola10:40
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CrTrHow to open .chm ?10:40
HoxzerI installed it to C driver10:40
OceanNoPontosyour help has helped me to find how to do gnome + enlightenment. Here's the link if anyone interested:10:40
OceanNoPontoshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476&highlight=enlightenment+gnome10:40
OctaneCrTr: search kde-apps.org10:40
] N[amenyktovus, are you using breezy or hoary10:40
Hoxzeror wine's C driver10:40
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kevogodOpenOffice.org needs to work on their preferences dialog.10:40
Hoxzerand Now I dont see it10:40
jatosbtw, if you using wine you may want to try crossover office, its a LOT faster10:40
Hoxzeranywhere10:40
HoxzerI dunno where is that C driver10:40
robzonHoxzer: wine's C drive is somewhere in ~/.wine/10:40
Hoxzerrobzon: and where is that wine folder?10:41
robzonHoxzer: in your home directory10:41
jjazz_Hoxzer, locate .wine10:41
Hoxzerthx finaly :D10:41
] N[amehow do you view . files10:41
odatubuntukevogod: sup man10:41
robzonHoxzer: np.10:41
] N[ameI can see them in term but not in nautilus10:41
robzon] N[ame: ctrl+h10:41
] N[amethanks10:42
robzonnp10:42
nyktovuswarty10:42
Octanewhen I do ldd for an app, I get libz.so.1 => not found... but when i do whereis libz.so.1 it says its in /usr/lib/10:42
] N[amesweeet10:42
Octaneany idea whats going on10:42
] N[ameI spent an hour yesterday trying to see them damn files10:42
] N[amelol10:42
robzon] N[ame: heh :) in View menu there is "Show hidden files" :P10:43
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benplautwho here is using breezy?10:43
robzonbenplaut: me10:43
Octanehalf of us10:43
OceanNoPontosI'll logout and come back soon... let's see if it worked.10:43
benplautdo you have multimedia video codecs working?10:43
CoryKhow do i upgrade from warty to breezy?10:43
benplautwow... a full half by now...10:44
benplautamazing10:44
Octaneanyonw know what package installs libz.so.1?10:44
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benplautCoryK: not reccommended10:44
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robzonOctane: try sudo ldconfig, and if it doesn't help try adding /usr/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf and running sudo ldconfig10:44
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Octanerobzon: thanks i already tried running ldconfig10:44
CoryKbenplaut why not?10:44
windexOctane, zlib1g / zlib1g-dev ?10:44
benplautit's a huge update10:44
Octanewindex: thanks10:44
benplauttry warty to hoary, then hoar to breezy10:45
benplautmight work better10:45
] N[amerobzon,  I tried that it did not work10:45
] N[amehrmm10:45
] N[amethe cntrl h did10:45
sorush20how do I get images to load in evoloution10:45
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SuperIDI'm trying to get my wireless working.  I bought a new access point and I can't get the card that worked with the old access point to associate w/ the new access point.  I think I need to edit the config file and update the channel.   Anyone know where that config file is?10:45
robzon] N[ame: hmm that must be a bug, cause ctrl+h is just the shortcut for this :/10:45
] N[ameyeah10:46
Octanereinstalling zlib1g didnt work and neither did adding /usr/lib to ld.so.conf & running ldconfig again10:46
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] N[ameI can live with it though as long as control h works10:46
Octanedamn openoffice2!10:46
CoryKwould upgrading from hoary to breezy through Synaptic be similar to upgrading from warty to hoary through Synaptic?10:46
hondjeCoryK: It's kinda buggy right now, doing that10:47
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jims_Am I in?10:47
Keithgyes10:47
robzonsorush20: in preferences, mail settings, html mail, and there you can choose when to load images10:47
] N[amea lot of people having issues with dist-upgrade10:47
jims_Finally, getting registered was a bit obtuse for a newbie...10:48
serfurjwhy does ubuntu deviate from accepted linux standards?  example: http://vinelinux.org/fsstnd-1.2.txt10:48
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windexserfurj, huh?10:49
robzonserfurj: 404 not found10:49
windexserfurj, for one thing, that document is from 1995. in linux terms, it might as well be 1895.10:49
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serfurjwindex: there's a 2.0 version10:50
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] N[ameis it me or does totem suck at playing files10:50
] N[ameits very choppy10:50
robzonserfurj: and yeah, in 2.0 for example, mounting additional partitions was moved from /mnt to /media and /services was added I think...10:50
pc22i just upgraded but now i dont have internet10:50
pc22pc22 what could be wrong10:50
jims_I am having some difficulty getting Mplayer to work within Fire-fox.  When selecting a video clip, the Mplayer window opens, it shows 'loading buffer', then says 'Playing', but it is a blank window.  I have check Mplayer.conf, an the default is 'vx'.  Any suggestions?10:50
erUSULserfurj: no linux dsitributin is 100% LSB compliant. In debian there are packages that LSBify things but still....10:50
robzon] N[ame: try installing totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer10:50
pc22i just upgraded to breezy, but now i dont have internet, what could be wrong10:51
robzonpc22: what kind of connection?10:51
] N[amerobzon, I just compiled mplayer it works just spiffy after turning on dma for the dvd drive10:51
pc22dsl10:51
serfurjerUSUL: robzon: the symbolic links in / are especially annoying10:51
pc22lan10:51
CoryKwell i'm off to do some house cleaning while warty finishes installing10:51
] N[ameCoryK, why warty thats an old release10:52
windexserfurj, they only exist to simply things for people who are used to working another way.10:52
CoryK] N[ame because i have the cds for it10:52
jjazz_pc22 do you get your ip by dhcp from a router?10:52
] N[ameahh10:52
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pc22dhcp by router10:52
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nitinshantharamcan anyone help me setup a mailserver - im having a lot of problems getting it to work with virtual users10:52
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] N[ameif you can try hoary its solid10:52
CoryKi was going to try obsd, but i don't know anyone that's succesfully dual-booted it with windows xp10:52
robzonserfurj: I have only 2 links, one for cdrom which isn't neccessary, and other is lib -> lib64 which I accept as it's for architecture stuff... it's not so bad10:52
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CoryK] N[ame i know hoary's solid, i used it while it was still developmental10:53
CoryKi just only have a warty cd, and i don't feel like downloading any other cds10:53
robzonpc22: hmm there should be no problem with DHCP... :/ try reactivating/reconfiguring the interface maybe..10:53
pc22jjazz_, what do i do?10:53
serfurjrobzon: i have links for initrd.img, vmlinuz, and cdrom10:53
serfurjcan they be deleted?10:53
njs12345nitinshantharam: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ is a pretty good tutorial10:54
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pc22robzon, im new how do i do that?10:54
robzonserfurj: hmm.. I don't :P10:54
] N[amehoary was my first distro since redhat 8 and gotta say it pwns10:54
CoryK:|10:54
jjazz_pc22, how are you normally connected to the internet?10:54
CoryKwarty uses xfree86 doesn't it10:54
] N[ameno idea10:54
crimsunCoryK: yes10:54
pc22router lan10:55
crimsunCoryK: though it's much closer to X.Org than XFree8610:55
] N[amehoary uses xorg dont it10:55
pc22dhcp10:55
jims_Anyone able to help a 'noob' get Mplayer to work within Fire-Fox?10:55
crimsun] N[ame: yes10:55
CoryKoh well i've made the upgrade before10:55
jjazz_pc22, look in /etc/network/interfaces10:55
robzonpc22: System/Administration/Network is the graphical way...10:55
crimsunjims_: did you install mozilla-mplayer?10:56
jjazz_pc22, well, first try the easy way:  sudo ifdowth eth0; sudo ifup eth010:56
jjazz_robzon, there's a graphical way?10:56
robzonjjazz_: yup :)10:56
Keithghorray!10:56
jjazz_robzon, I never noticed it.  Good to know.10:57
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CrTrhow to open .chm ??10:57
moparfan90hello everyone im back10:57
nyktovusi am installing mozilla-mplayer right now too.. and having massive issues10:57
robzonjjazz_: yeah, it's good to know, cause sometimes it's hard to explain terminal commands to newbies.. especially on phone ;)10:57
] N[amenow if I can only get the devs to may a gui interface for adding a machine to a ADS domain10:57
moparfan90bob2, are you there?10:57
nyktovusit doesnt seem to play shit.10:58
Octaneanyone else here have a problem running openoffice210:58
Octanebreezy10:58
jims_crimsun: Sure... I installed it with codecs and changed default to xv per web instructions...10:58
crimsunOctane: works fine here.10:58
njs12345moparfan90: he left a while ago ;)10:58
moparfan90oo10:58
robzonOctane: runs flawlessly here...10:58
Keithgcan someone tell me what they like about ubuntu, so far ive been using mandrake 10.1 community and im wanting to try out another distro so ive downloaded the ubuntu iso10:58
robzonKeithg: it just works10:59
moparfan90i am trying to make ubuntu faster does anyone have any suggestions? anything is ok10:59
pc22robzon, i went there and nic card is not the same10:59
njs12345moparfan90: faster in what way? faster boot? faster loading of apps? faster scrolling?10:59
crimsunKeithg: I think you'll just have to try it. If you're hesitant about installing it, download the live cd and boot from it.10:59
njs12345faster is entirely subjective10:59
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moparfan90everything10:59
nyktovushow do you change the default player for video files..11:00
pc22robzon, how do i change it since its not listed now11:00
moparfan90i really want a faster boot but anythin to make it faster is good11:00
Keithgcrimsun: ive got a second hard drive in here that i use for linux so no worries11:00
nyktovusno files seem to play anymore11:00
robzonKeithg: *easy* out-of-box solutions for most tasks... like cdrecording, movie playback, web browsing/mail.. it's much simpler than other distros I've used11:00
Octanecrimsun or robzon mind pastebinning the result of ldd /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/soffice.bin11:00
] N[ameso whats the easiest way to change totem gstreamer to totem x11:00
Keithgrobzon: yeah im looking for simplicity11:00
robzonOctane: I get /usr/bin/ldd: line 95: lddlibc4: command not found :/11:00
Octanei get libz.so.1 not found11:01
jims_My Mplayer version (for mozilla/firefox) is 2.7 is that the latest?11:01
CoryKCrTr have you tried xCHM?11:01
Octanewhich is the same error i get when i run oo2 or oo1 from cmd line11:01
crimsunOctane: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/227511:01
robzonpc22: it should be there, grayed out.. if it's not there, it seems system failed to load a module for your NIC11:01
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majikstreet!help11:02
robzonOctane: hmm I can't say, cause it seems that something's wrong with ldd on 64bit system11:02
robzonOctane: I get an error in ldd itself :/11:02
] N[ameproblem majikstreet ?11:02
majikstreetno11:02
] N[ameoh11:02
pc22so how do i load it11:02
majikstreeti just wanted to test out that thingy11:02
] N[amehehe11:02
] N[ame!help11:02
benplaut] N[ame: ubotu :P11:02
robzonpc22: what NIC do you have?11:02
Octanerobzon: im on 64bit11:02
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robzonOctane: oh :) well, maybe something's wrong with my ldd package then :/11:03
jims_Does anyone have any ideas how I can troubleshoot Mplayer in Fire-fox?11:03
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pc22i have 2 3com11:03
robzonOctane: hmm it works with other executables.. :/11:03
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majikstreet!ban11:04
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, majikstreet11:04
robzonpc22: do you know what models?11:04
majikstreethuh?11:04
pc22yeah11:04
xlogikCan any1 exlain how I can configure my sound apps "vlc, xmms and xine", I only can hear system sounds.11:04
nitinshantharamguys im able to send mail and login but i cant recieve mail - how can i debug this im using dovecot/sendmail11:04
nyktovushow do you set the default players for multimedia?11:04
CoryKis there a package for nasm?11:04
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] N[amecan install totem-xine with totem-gstreamer still installed?11:05
robzonOctane: ok, I've got ldd to work and I don't have any missing libs11:05
erUSULxlogik: in the apps select esd output, iguess11:05
crimsun] N[ame: no, not if you use Ubuntu packages.11:05
robzonOctane: libz.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libz.so.1 (0x5671d000)11:05
CrTrCoryK, 10x11:05
xlogikerUSUL:ok11:05
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robzonpc22: so what models are they?11:05
] N[amein synaptic totem-gstreamer says it wants to remove ubuntu desktop if I uninstall it11:06
erUSUL] N[ame: yes it will deinstall the former and install the later11:06
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robzon] N[ame: ubuntu-desktop is only a meta-package, you don't really need it11:06
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] N[ameahh11:06
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odatubuntucrimsun: sup man11:06
nyktovusdammit.. i installed totem-xine and now wmv files come up as a slew of text on the web browser11:06
] N[ameim not using metacity11:06
crimsunodatubuntu: nm, yourself?11:07
robzon] N[ame: it has nothing to do with metacity11:07
odatubuntuanyone have any experience with joy2key11:07
majikstreetjoy2key?11:07
] N[ameoh11:07
pc223c905b tx 3com11:07
odatubuntucrimsun: i can't figure out how to set this thing up for soldier of fortune11:07
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] N[ameso its fine to do it through synaptic?11:07
pc22robzon, 3c905b tx 3com11:07
robzon] N[ame: meta-package is a package that doesn't contain any files, but only depends on other packages.. so you can install/upgrade group of packages with one click/command11:08
robzon] N[ame: yes11:08
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crimsunodatubuntu: not sure I follow11:08
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miketechHi all11:09
odatubuntucrimsun: well i downloaded it and installed it but i'm not sure how to configure or run it with a game     ahhh i hate that i started on a gui    lol11:09
robzonpc22: try sudo modprobe 3c59x11:09
robzonpc22: in terminal11:09
miketechjust tested ubuntu breezy, very nice. but in "removable drives and media" there is for printers: gnome-printer-add . this program does not exist. maybe you meant gnome-cups-add?11:09
majikstreetodatubuntu what is joy2key?11:09
moparfan90does anyone know anything that will make my computer faster in any aspect?11:09
majikstreetmoparfan90, are you on  the correct kernel?11:10
crimsunodatubuntu: using a native Linux client or using WINE/Cedega?11:10
ompaulmoparfan90, ram most of likely11:10
dooglushow can I get "evolution" as an option on the gdm login screen as well as 'GNOME' and 'KDE' and such like?11:10
robzonmoparfan90: dual opteron and 4GB DDR2 RAM :)11:10
durtmoparfan90, use a lighter window manager11:10
odatubuntumajikstreet: it allows games that do not have a joypad option to use a gamepad11:10
majikstreetooo..11:10
moparfan90i am using e1711:10
] N[ameok its done11:10
odatubuntucrimsun: native linux11:10
kevogodmoparfan90, Get a new CPU, more RAM, a better video card, a better motherboard, better cooling system, better hard drives set up in a RAID, etc.11:10
moparfan90i have 256mb ram and not going to buy more11:10
dooglusmoparfan90: what package did you need to install to get e17 on the session menu?11:10
miketechnot sure if this is a bug, but it does not work, so it couldn't be correct :)11:10
LasseLwhat is the nautilus equivalent to "right-click-drag" in explorer?11:10
crimsunodatubuntu: try using tab completion in a Terminal, then11:10
robzonmoparfan90: yeah, RAM is very important, I'd say 512 is recommended minimum11:11
moparfan90i dont know there a tutorial on ubuntu forums search i11:11
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crimsunodatubuntu: as I recall, the binary is named 'sof' or 'soldier'11:11
njs12345talk to you all later11:11
robzonpc22: see if the NIC now appears in network settings11:11
psychicCan I hibernate into a swap file instead of a swap partition?11:11
odatubuntucrimsun: i don't have a problem using SOF   i just can't figure out how to use  joy2key11:11
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crimsunodatubuntu: I can't help with that. I've never heard of it much less used it.11:12
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moparfan90does anyone know a way to speed up my computer with OUT buying anything?11:12
pc22robzon, thanks i just hav to reboot it11:13
pc22lol11:13
odatubuntucrimsun: do you know of any good software that will allow me to use a gamepad on games that don't support it11:13
moparfan90i think i have good hardware for ubunut11:13
robzonpc22: :)11:13
LasseLmoparfan90, 256mb is too low IMHO11:13
miketechhm nobody responsible for this? *g*11:13
crimsunodatubuntu: I kinda stopped playing games about 3 years ago (no time)11:13
crimsunodatubuntu: but no, I don't11:13
robzonmoparfan90: 256MB isn't good I guess...11:13
dooglusmoparfan90: steal some RAM chips from the PCs at work11:13
psychicCan I hibernate into a swap file instead of a swap partition?11:13
moparfan90i dont work11:14
dooglusmoparfan90: from somebody else's work then11:14
moparfan90thats why im not buying anything11:14
dooglusdo you have any overalls?11:14
crimsunpsychic: have you consulted Google?11:14
robzonmoparfan90: get a job and then steal RAM chips :PP11:14
dooglusdress as a workman, then you can walk into any office anywhere.11:14
moparfan90lol11:14
dooglusremember to whistle a tuneless ditty as you steal stuff.11:14
moparfan90is there anything i can do to ubuntu to make it faster?11:15
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thenukemoparfan90: sure, buy more decent hardware11:15
odatubuntucrimsun: k thanx anyway man11:15
robzonmoparfan90: hmm I don't think so, you could use xfce, but then ubuntu loses its power11:15
moparfan90other then buy or steal or borrow11:15
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kevogodmoparfan90, Yes, use Gentoo.11:16
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LasseLtwm :)11:16
moparfan90i am using e17 that a light wieght window manager11:16
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moparfan90why i though ubuntu was better11:16
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robzonmoparfan90: well, for me ubuntu IS better, but everything depends on taste and target use ;)11:17
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dooglusif you use xfce then ubuntu has more power.  less of it goes into running Gnome, and more of it goes into your apps.11:17
OceanNoPontoshello! back, from my enlightened gnome. Wow, it is ***really MUCH*** more fast than metacity. ;)11:17
LasseLhow about fluxbox isn't that even lighter11:17
kevogodGentoo's aim is customizability and speed.11:17
NgLasseL: yes11:17
robzondooglus: if you use Xfce you could as well use debian... basically ubuntu is simply a very well configured gnome11:17
dooglusrobzon: ubuntu is more than just gnome11:18
CoryKi want to change it from warty-security to hoary-security as well right...11:18
Ngxfce isn't exactly impressively fast on slow machines, ditching all the panel type things and going with a simple window manager will be the best option on a seriously underpowered machine ;)11:18
moparfan90is debian better then ubuntu if i use fluxbox or e17?11:18
robzonmoparfan90: I don't think so11:18
kevogodUh no11:18
moparfan90mine machine isnt bad at all11:18
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LasseLmoparfan90, i think damnsmalllinux is optimized for less resource usage11:19
robzondooglus: well, I agree, but still well-configured gnome is what got ubuntu a lot (probably most) of its user base11:19
moparfan90but i like ubunut11:19
moparfan90ubuntu*11:20
OceanNoPontosrobzon: I have changed from KDE to gnome thanks to Ubuntu and Mono. ;)11:20
thellamawhat is it, drary drake?11:20
] N[amedapper drake11:20
robzonOceanNoPontos: yeah, me too, actually.. ;)11:20
thellamaOceanNoPontos: me too!11:20
] N[amethe next version of ubuntu11:20
thellamaah yes, dapper drake11:21
thellamathanks11:21
kevogodThe version after Dapper Drake is Foxy Fox.11:21
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thellamareally?11:21
kevogodNo.11:21
thellamaheh11:21
LasseLmoparfan90, a 512mb is $50 tops, save up or suck it up :p11:21
psychicDoes ubuntu 5.10 use suspend2?11:21
kevogod2x512 MB DDR400 memory is $80.11:22
moparfan90i dont think that will make my computer that much faster11:22
kevogodmoparfan90, Then you would be wrong.11:22
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moparfan90if i had that much ram id go to windows11:22
moparfan90for games11:22
thellamathey should call it lucky llama11:22
thellamalazy llama11:22
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LasseLmoparfan90, in my expirience ubuntu takes up more resources than windows 2000 did11:23
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moparfan90o realy11:23
robzonmoparfan90: yeah, well... you have to choose.. either spend 50 bucks and have ubuntu's gnome, or use a lighter desktop envitonment... there's nothing you can do to tweak performance.. maybe a little, but that's probably not what you expect11:23
mlopeshi. does anyone know what to change to the NFS configuration so it can be accessible be another machine with iptables?11:23
moparfan90i already have a light wieght window manager11:23
LasseLmoparfan90, i certainly feel the urge to upgrade my memory after switching from w2k to ubuntu11:23
steinWhere can I see the list of packages for breezy ? (I'm interested if ndiswraper is included and what version)11:23
BOOMSHOTsup guys...Using Ubuntu n luvin it....question. (newbie): I want to use Klibido in Ubuntu, how do I install it?11:24
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robzonstein: System/Administration/Synaptic11:24
LasseLmoparfan90, try fluxbox11:24
erUSULmoparfan90:  enlightment is not what i would  call lightweight11:24
steinrobzon: I'm not running Ubuntu right now ;-)11:24
robzonstein: packages.ubuntu.com I think11:24
moparfan90ooo11:25
stein10x11:25
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moparfan90will that make my computer alot faster?11:25
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LasseLmoparfan90, no, somewhat11:25
moparfan90noticable11:25
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moparfan90???//11:26
BOOMSHOTne1 installed Klibido successfully & used it with .nzb files11:26
nictukuhi. I'm almost sure there is something wrong with my mozilla. Either firefox or mozilla.11:26
robzonmoparfan90: you'll get more RAM for running apps and faster window manager11:26
dvm_Greetings, if I think I've found a character encoding bug in firefox, where should I go to report this?11:26
BOOMSHOT(newbie) having probs installing in Ubuntu11:26
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robzonBOOMSHOT: what klibido?11:26
] N[ameis mplayer independant of xine?11:26
BOOMSHOTnewsreader11:27
moparfan90whats better (faster and nicer looking)   fluxbox or xfce11:27
erUSULdvm_: bugzilla in mozilla ;)11:27
BOOMSHOTrobzon: regular .deb won't install in Ubuntu11:27
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BOOMSHOTfollowed instructions on Ubuntu forum...still no go11:28
nictukuI have a monitoring station that only shows two monitors with two mozilla browsers running on it. After a few days running, it ALWAYS gets very strange and start to take all my system's resources. I would guess there is a memory leak or something like that.11:28
robzon] N[ame: yes11:28
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] N[amerobzon, so I can have both with out an issue11:28
] N[ame?11:28
BOOMSHOTr can u recommend a vgood newsreader that can use .nzb files from Newzbin.com11:28
] N[amebecause totem xine has lines in it during dvd playback11:29
] N[ameduring fast action11:29
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robzon] N[ame: yes you can use both11:29
robzonBOOMSHOT: sorry, I don't know any newsreaders11:30
BOOMSHOTk thx11:30
hondjepan is nice11:30
erUSULnictuku: known issue you have to set a limit in memory usage in a window visit about:config and set browser.cache.memory.capacity11:30
erUSULto somethin that suits you11:30
BOOMSHOTdoes it recognize .nzb files?11:30
hondjeI dunno what that is11:30
hondjebut I bet there might be some list of supported things on their website11:30
BOOMSHOTroger that...Ne1 ever installed nzbget in Ubuntu?11:31
nictukuerUSUL. Interesting. Thank you very much. But is that a bug or expected?11:31
LasseLright-click-drag in explorer is middle-click-drag in nautilus11:31
erUSULnictuku: i think that is a bug the cache should not grow forever but right now it is this way11:32
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nictukubut, would the cache grows if it's just reloading the same page?11:33
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lars__Hi @ all11:33
andelgadoanyone? i need help11:33
BOOMSHOThey11:33
Seveashi lars__ :)11:34
hondjeAnyone up to helping me get beagle working?11:34
lars__I've got a question11:34
hondjeI think it hates me11:34
XorlevOkay, advice. I have a 120gb Windows drive, and a 40gb Linux drive. I use Linux completely, but I'm not sure if I want to format my Windows drive, but I need the space. Should I format it?11:34
baddersanyone know if there is an easy way to get a list of packages that are installed, but not directly or indirectly dependencies of ubuntu-desktop?11:34
erUSULnictuku: i do not know :( maybe there is actually a bug...11:34
lars__I'm trying to setup a ftp server11:34
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hondjeWhich is lame, since my nick is totally beagle-friendly11:34
lars__but i can't find the file :S11:34
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Seveashondje, beagle is quite a territorial dog, it can't stand other hondjes around :)11:34
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robzonlars__: uncomment ftp line in /etc/inetd.conf11:34
hondjeSeveas: hehe :)11:34
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andelgadowindows-based yahoo messenger allows user to view webcams of chat mates. can it be done with GAIM?11:35
moparfan90Seveas, do you know any way to speed up ubuntu in any aspect with out buying anythin?11:35
LasseLXorlev, you could resize the windows drive and create a shared partition for data11:35
erUSULXorlev: you at least have to create a linux compatible filesystem in the partition (ext3)11:35
robzonlars__: ok I lied, there is no ftp line in inetd.conf in ubuntu :P11:35
hondjeWhen I run beagled --foreground it goes along for a little bit until I get '** (beagled:10386): WARNING **: FIXME: wait for completion unimplemented11:35
hondje'11:35
Seveasmoparfan90, using fluxbox instead of another DE helps11:35
andelgadowindows-based yahoo messenger allows user to view webcams of chat mates. can it be done with GAIM?11:35
lars__haha okay :P11:35
hondjegaim-vv11:35
robzonlars__: install proftpd11:35
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ai-2lars__: how is it possible is there a program i need to install to be able to see my windows partition?11:35
moparfan90Seveas, im using e17 is that good or still use fluxbox?11:35
robzonlars__: and then look at /etc/proftpd.conf11:35
lars__yeah i can't get proftpd11:35
lars__Yeah i know :)11:35
Seveasmoparfan90, it's not bad speed-wise11:36
erUSULhondje: if its only a WARNING there is no problem :D11:36
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XorlevLasseL: I could, and I know about fat partitions and such, I'm just looking for advice: should I format, or not. If I do, what should I mount it as? Perhaps move my home directory on it and mount it there?11:36
robzonlars__: why can't you get it?11:36
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andelgadowindows-based yahoo messenger allows user to view webcams of chat mates. can it be done with GAIM?11:36
lsuactiafnerdepends on what you want from a GUI11:36
hondjeerUSUL: But it dies at that warning11:36
lsuactiafneri dont want to notice it, so i use blackbox, got my menus and my 3 virtual desktops and i'm happy11:36
lars__when i'm doing this in konsole : sudo apt-get install proftpd11:36
ai-2lars__: could you please answer it is very important, thanks in advance11:36
LasseLXorlev, i belive you can read and write ext3 from windows if you get a driver for it11:37
robertbbdoes rhythmbox support ipods?11:37
hondjeoh, I bet they have their own chan on the gnome server11:37
moparfan90Seveas, sould i use flux box or stay the way i have it?11:37
lars__he's saying that he can't find it11:37
andelgadoanyone, pls. windows-based yahoo messenger allows user to view webcams of chat mates. can it be done with GAIM?11:37
lsuactiafnerai-2 : no, you just need to mount it11:37
robzonai-2: you don't need any additional software11:37
hondjeandelgado: not really, no11:37
erUSULXorlev: yes it is a good idea. when you run mkext2fs you are formating the partition anyway11:37
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lsuactiafnerai-2 : is the windows partiion on the same physical disk as linux?11:37
LasseLXorlev, and if you do format, be sure to watch out not to loose your boot loader11:37
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XorlevLasseL: Its not a question of can I mount ext3 from Windows...I don't use Windows at all anymore. I'm just hesitant to format away Windows, so its more of a philisophical advice.11:38
opoAnyone know of an way to rip 4,000 audio cd's in a less tedious manner?11:38
robzonlars__: hmm that's weird cause it's in the repository.. try doing it thru synaptic11:38
lfelipeHi, has anyone had any problems installing nvidia-glx-legacy on breezy ?? I'm getting a conflict with libmesa, and I have no idea what I can do about it11:38
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robzonlars__: or do sudo apt-get update11:38
XorlevLasseL: I boot from GRUB on my Linux drive, there is no problems I can see.11:38
lsuactiafnerai-2 : sudo fdisk -l ; sudo mkdir /mnt/windows11:38
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andelgadothanks hondje. so is it possible to chat in linux that allows viewing of webcams of chatmates?11:38
LasseLXorlev, I am in the same dilemma, I decided to leave 20gb free for a possible future windows installation ...11:38
erUSULopo: yes p2p aplication and a dedicated t1 line XD11:38
lsuactiafnerai-2 : with fdisk -l you will see /dev/something and info specifying its a windows partiion11:38
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lfelipeopo : download some batch encoder that uses cddb, and then you can just keep changing the cds. There should be some bash scripts to do that11:39
moparfan90Seveas, if install fluxbox and get rid of that gnome login thing and all gnome will that make it alot faster?11:39
lars__No it makes no diffrence :S11:39
opoerUSUL : haha11:39
lsuactiafnerai-2 : then mount /dev/something /mnt/windows11:39
hondjeooooh, xchat-gnome is nice11:39
lsuactiafnerai-2 : then cd /mnt/windows andyou will see your windows files..11:39
XorlevLasseL: Good advice, I could do that. Leave 15-20gb free for if I ever want to reinstall Windows, and the rest ext3.11:39
andelgadoxchat supports viewing of webcams of chat mates?11:40
robzonlars__: weird.. I have it in the repository :/11:40
lfelipeHi, has anyone had any problems installing nvidia-glx-legacy on breezy ?? I'm getting a conflict with libmesa, and I have no idea what I can do about it11:40
lsuactiafnermoparfan90 : i disbaled gdm and gnome things ect. yes its faster, but if you dont know what you're doing in linux gnome will be easier to use11:40
SuperQandelgado: there might be a video chat version of gaim11:40
lsuactiafnerlfelipe : why are you installing nvidia-glx-legacy?11:40
erUSULlfelipe: uninstall mesa11:40
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moparfan90wqelllsuactiafner, im already using e17 so by disabling that willi gain any speed?11:41
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LasseLXorlev, yeah or minimize your current windows version so it will fit in 15gig keep it and use the rest for ext311:41
serfurjwhat's the name of a gnome menu editor?11:41
lfelipeerUSUL, uninstalling mesa also uninstall alot of packages that depend on it11:41
casparis crimsun here?11:41
LasseLserfurj, smeg11:41
andelgadoSuperQ: where can i find it? standard OS installers don't have?11:41
lfelipelsuactiafner : to use the accelerated X for my video card (nvidia riva tnt 2)11:41
ai-2lsuactiafner: iam not able to see my windows files11:41
SuperQAngel-SL: let me look.. i'm kinda laged right now11:41
serfurjLasseL: what apt source is that in?11:41
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SuperQandelgado: erm... yea11:41
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moparfan90lsuactiafner, im already using e17 if i disable gnome and that crap will i gain spped?11:41
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casparcrimsun are you active ? i have a problem with my microphone11:42
LasseLserfurj, try first, then ask :p11:42
crimsuncaspar: what sort?11:42
lsuactiafnermoparfan90 : blackbox + fluxbox is faster, but not as functional by default.11:42
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serfurjLasseL: i did.  it's not in ubuntu, universe, or multiverse11:42
lsuactiafnermoparfan90 : and if you ask me the same question twice i will kick you ass.11:42
lsuactiafnernot really since i dont know where you libe11:42
moparfan90lsuactiafner, no you wont11:42
lsuactiafnerbut you get the idea..11:42
XorlevLasseL: Part of the reason I switched to Linux was because Windows was broken, so I'm copying my important files over to my Linux drive, and nuking the whole thing, but leaving 20gb or so for Windows if I decide to reinstall it.11:42
andelgadoSuperQ: i'm a bit slow. what's erm, as you said11:42
casparcrimsun: i have 2 mic inputs but it only cee's one and i cannot use the one where my mic is pluged into :S11:43
lsuactiafnermoparfan90 : just check it out, see what you prefer.11:43
ai-2mount /dev/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows/11:43
ai-2mount: special device /dev/dev/hda1 does not exist11:43
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Xorlevai-2: its /dev/hda1, not /dev/dev/hda111:43
robzonai-2: only one /dev11:43
moparfan90lsuactiafneri used fluxbox before and i like e17 better11:43
hondjeIs beagled supposed to keep running in the background after you launch it?11:43
lsuactiafnerai-2 : /dev/hda111:43
SuperQandelgado: i'm online via cell network.. kinda slow11:43
lsuactiafnermoparfan90 : so whats the problem then, it you prefer a nice looking GUI to speed use e1711:43
ai-2thanks11:43
casparcrimsun: do you know annyting about that?11:44
LasseLserfurj, it is in hoary-backports11:44
moparfan90lsuactiafner, can i make ubuntu boot faster?11:44
serfurjLasseL: thanks11:44
annexI have a xinerama setup with a modern Nvidia card and an old ATI card.  Previously using Xfree86 whenever OpenGL applications (e.g. Unreal Tournament) would run in full screen they would only be displayed on the Nvidia card.  Installing Ubuntu and Xorg, OpenGL applications now try to run half on either monitor when fullscreen.  How can I make it so only the Nvidia card is used for OpenGL applications?  I don't see any difference in my X configs 11:44
LasseLserfurj, and in the mirrormax backports11:44
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SuperQandelgado: is there a specific chat program you want to use with video?11:44
Kromonosgn811:44
lsuactiafnermoparfan90 : yeh, but dont follow my advice, @ all.. nobody shoudl, but disabling crap in /etc/init.d/ like ntpdate will make it much faster11:44
lsuactiafnerchmod -x script will dsiable it11:45
lsuactiafnerchmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate works wonders..11:45
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lsuactiafnerbut dont do it..11:45
moparfan90lsuactiafner, why11:45
crimsuncaspar: paste the output from ''amixer'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:45
moparfan90lsuactiafner, i already did11:45
andelgadoi just want to be with yahoo chat (messenger), which i usually do in windows. and i can easily view webcams of others.11:45
erUSULlsuactiafner: the correct way of doing this is with update-rc.d remove <whatever>11:45
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andelgadoSuperQ: I didn't get what u mean of ... erm11:46
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SuperQandelgado: nothing..11:46
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lsuactiafnermoparfan90 : because i'm just telling you not do it to avoid being flamed..11:46
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nitinshantharamguys i was following te email server tutorial http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ and it says type ehlo anywhere.org and i should see some lines displayed - but it just stays there i get no output11:46
GatoLokohi11:46
SuperQandelgado: what is the other person you are trying to talk to using?11:46
unfola11:46
casparcrimsun: done11:46
lsuactiafnererUSUL : chmod works better, since its easier to enbale something again when need be ect11:46
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shekhar_hello all, i need some help reviving my windows partition after ubuntu installation11:46
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SuperQandelgado: AIM? ICQ?11:47
andelgadoSuperQ: yahoo messenger, in windows11:47
SuperQok11:47
nictukunitinshantharam, check /var/log/mail.log11:47
erUSULlsuactiafner: the correct way of doing this is with update-rc.d defaults <whatever>11:47
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lfelipe trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libGL.so.1', which is also in package libgl1-mesa11:47
LasseLlsuactiafner, wouldn't ntpupdate be better suited for a cron.weekly anyways ?11:47
SmokinWeed_420http://www.planetbattleground.com/recruit.php?id=27311:47
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lsuactiafnererUSUL : but its not as functional. its easier to admin to go ls /etc/init.d/ and to enable/disbale ect11:47
andelgadoSuperQ: i don't see any option to view webcam of chatmates in XChat.11:47
nitinshantharamnictuku: it says fatal: unsupported dictionary type: mysql11:47
andelgadoSuperQ: so, any suggestions regarding my need?11:48
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lsuactiafnerLasseL : ntpupdate runs on every boot. and since not all ppl are on networks it times out after line a minute11:48
ai-2lsuactiafner: i get permission denied if i try to open it with ubuntu file browser.11:48
Abdul_Mueidhello everyone!11:48
SuperQandelgado: no11:48
erUSULlsuactiafner: actually remove or defaults goes after <whatever> sorry11:48
lsuactiafnerscripts should run with & in the background, execute everything @ the same time..11:48
nictukunitinshantharam apt-get install postfix-mysql11:48
ai-2with command line it is okay11:48
xTinalfelipe: afaik the developers know about this one11:48
robzonalright, gotta go do some coding.. see ya'll later11:48
LasseLlsuactiafner, i understand, but that wasn't my question11:48
xTinalfelipe: the nvidia-glx-legacy package is still very new, just a few days old.11:49
crimsuncaspar: you have a 'Mic Select' element that you should be able to toggle to select the microphone to use11:49
lsuactiafnerai-2 : chmod a+rw /mnt/windows/    <-- might not work as i think it will11:49
lfelipexTina, is there anything I can do ?11:49
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lfelipesomething like a forced update ?11:49
Seveasai-2, *will* not work11:49
erUSULlsuactiafner: what is the diference between running 'update-rc.d ntpdate remove' and chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate11:49
andelgadoSo, no way to videochat in linux? yahoo messenger for linux doesnt have option for this purpose too.11:49
haasteemhow can i see what is the device name of my soundcard?11:49
Seveaschmod is not effective on windows filesystems11:49
GatoLokosomeone have freepascal working with breezy?11:49
crimsunhaasteem: "device name"?11:50
Seveashaasteem, probably /dev/dsp11:50
nybblehmm11:50
ai-2chmod a+rw /mnt/windows/11:50
ai-2chmod: changing permissions of `/mnt/windows/': Read-only file system11:50
nybbleanyone familiar with encrypted filesystems?11:50
haasteemseveas: ok, let me have a look11:50
Seveasai-2, you need correct mount options11:50
SuperQandelgado: http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html#debian11:50
SuperQandelgado: you need that11:50
erUSULlsuactiafner: i find both quite the same in typing but one is right (tm) and the other not11:50
Seveasadd umask=0000 to these options11:50
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ai-2what is that Seveas:?11:50
Seveasai-2, how did you mmount the drive?11:51
SuperQandelgado: oh.. maybe that doesn't support video11:51
benplaut[breezy]  I followed normal instructions to enable codecs, but in every media player, the size of the box is correct, the length is correct, sound works, but no video11:51
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andelgadoSuperQ: i downloaded it. But it doesnt have option to view webcam either.11:51
SuperQandelgado: yea.. I think you're SOL11:51
ai-2 mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows/11:51
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SuperQandelgado: sorry11:51
neighborleeanyone know a way out of a problem with thunderbird, where the email app does not give you opportunity to retype password if enterered wrong ???11:51
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jims_Can anyone help me with Mplayer?  When I open a file, I get a pop-up window that's titled "Fatal Error".  It says "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out device".  I am using the default configuration without changes.  Totem and Xine_ui work OK...11:52
xTinalfelipe: I _think_ you can safely replace the file (--force-overwrite when using dpkg), though I haven't tried it.11:52
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andelgadoSuperQ: so, no application in linux yet allowing viewing of cams? does it mean linux users are stuck to typing online in chatting?11:52
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ai-2Seveas  mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows/11:52
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ORiON2012andelgado: GnomeMeeting and Skype are worth checking out11:52
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xTinalfelipe: The other alternative would be waiting a few days until a fixed package is available.11:52
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nitinshantharamnictuku: istill same problem11:52
GatoLokoandelgado gnomemeeting11:52
PlanarPlatypusneighborlee, I think it is in tools->options-> advanced11:53
robzonandelgado: gnomemeeting, I think skype has video, doesn't it?11:53
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elvirolohi all11:53
erUSULandelgado: well there's gnomemeeting11:53
haasteemseveas: dull question maybe, how can i look at /dev/dsp?11:53
Seveasai-2, dp you want it to be mounted every time you boot?11:53
nictukunitinshantharam restart postfix11:53
Seveashaasteem, with a microscope...11:53
Seveasdefine 'look at'11:53
haasteem:-)11:53
erUSULSeveas: :D11:53
haasteemopen the file11:53
elvirologod, i *still* have that menu prob with breezy (i've been having it for weeks ... even if i did several fresh installs)11:53
andelgadok. i'll see if it can be connect to chatrooms of yahoo and view webcams in it. thanks11:53
lars__robzon you've got any idea how it's gone work ?11:53
el_besugoopen dps?11:53
GatoLokoandelgado the cvs version of amsn support messenger webcam11:53
elvirolomany entries do not appear in my kde menu11:53
Seveashaasteem, that would be.... odd11:54
nitinshantharamnictuku: no difference11:54
casparcrimsun: ok the mic dous work (but now TeamSpeak dousen :S)11:54
Seveaswhy do you want that?11:54
samu2anyone managed to print out the week view in evolution with a "landscape" layout?11:54
PlanarPlatypusneighborlee, go to saved passwords and then viw saved passwords and remove the one in question11:54
robzonlars__: hmm, I've lost the point... what was it..?11:54
samu2i just cant get it to print the way i want it11:54
el_besugoperhaps he wants to see digital sound11:54
andelgadoty GatoLoko11:54
ai-2well Seveas: i only want to be able to run my movies and programs in windows partition, and right now iam able to do that from the command line but not graphically, because vlc wont run audio on my movies11:54
samu2is there an irc channel for evolution?11:54
haasteemseveas: i want to know the device name of my sound card11:54
Seveasai-2: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically11:54
erUSULhaasteem: from a C program  open("/dev/dsp", rw) if i recall correctly11:54
SeveaserUSUL, you did not ;)11:55
erUSULhaasteem: ls -al /dev/snd/11:55
waldeHow can I ubuntu tell, to install the kernel source of the ubuntu-kernel automatically?11:55
ai-2Seveas is it possible with apt-get ?11:55
Seveasai-2, no11:55
Snobloweranybody want to show a complete noob how to properly install ubuntu?11:55
andelgadoskype, and gnomemeeting, where can i get it?11:55
erUSULSeveas: :(11:55
Seveasit's a simple script, download it and run it11:55
haasteemerusul: ok, let me try that11:55
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andelgadoi found gnomemeeting11:55
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waldeandelgado, at skype.com, gnomemeeting should be installable via apt11:55
el_besugoSnoblower: there are a lot of howtos online11:55
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waldeandelgado, sorry, synaptic11:56
andelgadothanks walde11:56
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erUSULhaasteem: you will see the devices asociated with your soundcard/s there11:56
robzonandelgado: gnomemeeting is in ubuntu and skype has no package cause it's non-open-source, you have to download it from skype.com11:56
waldeandelgado, installing of skype.com is also very easy. You can start it directly from your home if you download the static version11:56
andelgadoperhaps gnomemeeting is similar to microsoft netmeeting? i'll try it11:56
erUSULandelgado: you are right11:57
andelgadois skype free too? license free?11:57
nictukufree as in free beer11:57
ai-2Seveas it is a bash script, what to do with it?11:57
sm1do we have something like itunes or ippoder easy to install in ubuntu?11:57
LasseLandelgado, and don't forget: if you are in china it is illegal to get naked in front of your webcamera :p11:57
erUSULandelgado: free as in beer but not free as in speech11:57
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erUSULai-2: run it?11:57
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andelgadoyour all cool guys.11:58
ai-2erUSUL not able to run it11:58
casparcrimsun: thx11:58
andelgadogonna try gnomemeeting right now....11:58
nitinshantharamnictuku: no difference11:58
casparbye bye all11:58
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ai-2i can only se the source11:58
jims_Is there another channel that can help with mplayer?11:58
erUSULai-2: sudo sh <script>.sh11:58
nictukunitinshantharam, sorry, if you say installing postfix-mysql won't fix your lack of support for mysql in postfix, then I don't have a clue :)11:59
elvirolohow do i use alsa in breezy in order to be able to play "multiple sounds" ?11:59
nitinshantharamnictuku: no i mean, EHLO somewehre.com doesnt give me any output and theres nothign in /var/log/maillog11:59
crimsunelvirolo: it's set that way by default for the first sound card11:59
LasseLelvirolo, that is a l33t feature, not everyone can get that11:59
nictukuit's /var/log/mail.log12:00
crimsunelvirolo: just make sure that you haven't created your own ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf12:00

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