[12:00] <venzen> erUSUL: how abt samba to share with network?
[12:01] <erUSUL> venzen: well a amn fstab and man mount could had help you 2 years ago ;)
[12:01] <ninjafish> exit
[12:01] <venzen> erUSUL: yep :)
[12:01] <ninjafish> lol!
[12:02] <iqbala> hey all
[12:02] <mustafu> How to enable multiverse in breezy?  I don't see any lines for it in my sources.list file...
[12:02] <iqbala> i switch my laptop from work to home and everytime i need to run /etc/init.d/networking restart to get the dhcp ip
[12:02] <erUSUL> !tell mustafu about repos
[12:03] <iqbala> any better way to do it automatically?
[12:03] <war-totem> i have an xserver question
[12:04] <erUSUL> iqbala: i don't think so. maybe  breezy comes whith network applet?
[12:04] <jxpx> what
[12:04] <war-totem> everything in ubuntu has been fine but now whne i reboot i get can not connect to xserver
[12:04] <war-totem> when i sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:04] <war-totem> it says it is not installed
[12:04] <war-totem> am i screwed?
[12:04] <cafuego_> you on breezy?
[12:05] <war-totem> no
[12:05] <war-totem> hoary i believe
[12:05] <erUSUL> war-totem: install it
[12:05] <war-totem> will all my files be there?
[12:05] <cafuego_> 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg' - what does that say?
[12:05] <LaschW> war-totem: Try to "apt-get install xserver-xorg"
[12:05] <erUSUL> war-totem: maybe you have xserver-xfree?
[12:05] <cafuego_> war-totem: Hold on, did you have /usr on a seperate partition?
[12:05] <war-totem> no
[12:05] <Diffindo> I could use some help getting my sound to work...
[12:05] <war-totem> no partitions
[12:05] <war-totem> its downloading now
[12:05] <war-totem> but why would xserve delete itself?
[12:06] <cafuego_> war-totem: it wouldn't normally.
[12:06] <venzen> iqbala - caution - if you don't yet know how to update sources.list then you shouldn't install breezy - it's technically unstable
[12:06] <Peaker> If I want to manually download a bleeding-edge version of an ubuntu package, how can I put the "debian/" dir that was generated by ubuntu developers for the previous version? is it safe to just copy it? is there a better way? is it a bad idea?
[12:06] <cafuego_> war-totem: dpkg -l | grep xserver
[12:06] <cafuego_> war-totem: what does that say?
[12:06] <war-totem> cafuego one sec im downloading it
[12:06] <cafuego_> war-totem: (you cna ctrl-c the download)
[12:06] <war-totem> then ill tell you
[12:07] <venzen> Peaker what?
[12:07] <cafuego_> It's important you run that BEFORE the install of the new one.
[12:07] <erUSUL> Diffindo: if you told us your souncard model...
[12:07] <venzen> debian/ ?
[12:07] <Diffindo> Audio: C-Media Electronics CMI9761 (OSS Mixer) <- I get no sound
[12:07] <war-totem> grep lists xserver-common, xserver-xfree8, xserver-xorg
[12:07] <Diffindo> VIA 8237
[12:08] <cafuego_> war-totem: Okay, I suspect you used to have xserver-xfree86, not xserver-xorg
[12:08] <war-totem> so download xserver-xfree86?
[12:08] <erUSUL> run alsamixer
[12:08] <jontiz> apt-get iinstall windows xp
[12:08] <cafuego_> war-totem: Nah, go with xorg, works fine
[12:08] <cafuego_> (and marginally faster)
[12:08] <erUSUL> war-totem: better xserver-xorg
[12:08] <war-totem> cafuego will my files still be there?
[12:08] <Syco54645> how can i disable sudo and enable my root account in ubuntu?
[12:08] <Diffindo> erUSUL: you talkhing to me?
[12:08] <cafuego_> war-totem: Yes, they should be.
[12:09] <cafuego_> Syco54645: Why would you do something as silly as that?
[12:09] <Peaker> venzen: I created a patch of amarok, unfortunatly I did it on the "apt-get source" version of amarok, instead of the latest version
[12:09] <erUSUL> Diffindo: yes what alsamixer tells tou?
[12:09] <war-totem> rebooting
[12:09] <Peaker> venzen: I want to patch the latest version and install it, but it has no "debian/" dir (wasn't debianized)
[12:09] <cafuego_> war-totem: rebooting?
[12:09] <erUSUL> Syco54645: why do you want to do that?
[12:09] <Peaker> venzen: The question is if it is possibly safe to use the "debianization" of the latest ubuntu package of "amarok"?
[12:09] <zeroth_> How do I lock my computer?
[12:09] <Syco54645> cafuego, because i really dislike sudo and have been using linux for years... so i am hard to change
[12:09] <war-totem> cafuego i finished downloading it i guess
[12:09] <venzen> Peaker: sorry can't help :)
[12:09] <Peaker> venzen: k, thanks
[12:09] <LaschW> Syco54645: Try "sudo su -" and then run "passwd" to get a root password
[12:10] <cafuego_> Syco54645: Seta password for root via sudo, disabling sudo is a bad idea, though.
[12:10] <venzen> !tell peaker abt patching
[12:10] <erUSUL> Syco54645: use anther distri ubuntu is designed to run whithout root
[12:10] <Syco54645> cafuego, why i didnt use sudo in years past
[12:10] <sdali> I corrupted my filesystem when a IDE cable went bad on my computer so I ran fsck manually, and it fixed the problem (allowing me to log in), but in doing so it hosed some files so that I can no longer use synaptic to install pkgs. Each time I try to install ANY pkg I get a "missing newline" error. Does anyone know how to get past this? I'm thinking I need to remove and re-install synaptic.
[12:10] <Syco54645> erUSUL, that is very gentooish of you...
[12:10] <cafuego_> Syco54645: Neither did I, you get used to it pretty quick, though.
[12:11] <zeroth_> Nvm.
[12:11] <Peaker> venzen: I didn't get told...
[12:11] <cafuego_> yeah, set the NO_SUDO USE flag and rebuild the system *snort*
[12:11] <test34> Syco54645,  you can still use the root account after you enable it
[12:11] <zeroth_> How I edit setting for my SCREENSAVER? :)
[12:11] <Syco54645> cafuego, i dunno, i would rather just have good old su.  i just was tired of gentoo's bs and emerge was getting on my nerves
[12:11] <erUSUL> Syco54645: i've never used gentoo.. ;)
[12:11] <venzen> Peaker: tried man diff?
[12:11] <iqbala> there is nothing like networker daemon like in fedora
[12:11] <iqbala> ?
[12:11] <zeroth_> God, nvm. I'm tooo lazy.
[12:11] <cafuego_> Syco54645: 'sudo passwd' ought to set a root pass, as soon as that's set, you can use 'su'.
[12:12] <cafuego_> Syco54645: The X admin tools all depends on sudo though, so I'd leave it in place.
[12:12] <war-totem> cafuego thanks a lot for your help, it works now, but can you advise how to never have that happen again?
[12:12] <venzen> iqbala - redhat is strange..
[12:12] <iqbala> in fedora i could just plug it to any dhcp network it could get an IP
[12:12] <cafuego_> war-totem: Not without knowing what caused it
[12:12] <Syco54645> cafuego, ok, i just would rather have root enabled so i can break stuff better ;)
[12:12] <venzen> iqbala that's like me in ubuntu!
[12:12] <Syco54645> thanks for the help
[12:12] <erUSUL> Syco54645: sudo -s will do the trick. A root shell :D
[12:12] <Syco54645> oh and i figured out what was wrong with my drive
[12:12] <Syco54645> that i thought was dead
[12:12] <Diffindo> Okay...
[12:13] <war-totem> cafuego all i was doing previously is installing fluxbox themes and messing with the way aterm looks
[12:13] <Syco54645> if you will remember i was running on the live cd for a few months
[12:13] <Diffindo> I have my speakers turned on...
[12:13] <nalioth> cafuego_: i have a question
[12:13] <iqbala> so i cant get an IP when i plug it to a dhcp network unless run networking manually ?
[12:13] <Diffindo> I ran alsamixer
[12:13] <venzen> iqbal: top panel>admin>networking and then restart interface
[12:14] <cafuego_> nalioth: go on ...
[12:14] <drapelyk> Anyone: How do I install Java Plugin for Firefox on Ubuntu?
[12:14] <iqbala> venzen yeah but that would be doing it manually
[12:14] <Diffindo> How can I test my sound?
[12:14] <cafuego_> drapelyk: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[12:14] <nalioth> cafuego_: previously you pointed me to a script that would allow me to seperate ID'd users by color
[12:14] <cafuego_> Diffindo: With ears and music
[12:14] <erUSUL> !tell drapelyk about java
[12:15] <Diffindo> er...
[12:15] <Diffindo> right
[12:15] <nalioth> cafuego_: it stopped working. have you any ideas why?
[12:15] <cafuego_> nalioth: The issi script, yep
[12:15] <Syco54645> i tried to get files off of the drive yesterday and it just locked when i would mount it, so i said screw it and went to fdisk to just partition it and see if that would help.... well its an 80 gig drive and for some reason i had a 41 meg (boot) partition, a 78 gig (/) partition and a 6 gig swap partition... since i only set the swap to 768 megs when i set up gentoo i would say my partition table got a little mucked up... needless to s
[12:15] <Syco54645> ay i am using the drive and it is working quite fine for the past 3 hours.  before i ran fdisk it would work for about 20 minutes and give a dma error.
[12:15] <florg> hi, can i install kde after a standard installation of ubuntu?
[12:15] <Syco54645> that wasnt a paste!
[12:15] <cafuego_> nalioth: Did you get dis/re connected and not run '/QUOTE CAPAB identify-msg' ?
[12:15] <venzen> iqbala: yep but not too much hard work, eh? afterall you got up and plugged in the cable.
[12:15] <nalioth> cafuego_: i can run it from the beginning and nothing
[12:16] <cafuego_> nalioth: Peculiar. Let me check on irssi here
[12:16] <Diffindo> Still now audio
[12:16] <Diffindo> no*
[12:16] <jontiz> plugg in
[12:16] <iqbala> venzen: not a complain..just wondering "if" it can be done automatically
[12:16] <erUSUL> Diffindo: run ls /dev/snd/
[12:17] <cafuego_> cafuego__: hey
[12:17] <iqbala> i was just looking for a yes/no answer :-)
[12:17] <nalioth> howdy
[12:17] <cafuego_> wibble
[12:17] <venzen> iqbala: seen :)
[12:17] <nalioth> cafuego_ dribbles
[12:17] <cafuego_> nalioth: I bet they've changed the format string in the server code.
[12:17] <Diffindo> controlC0  pcmC0D0c  pcmC0D0p  pcmC0D1c  pcmC0D1p  timer
[12:17] <nalioth> cafuego_: any idears on how to fix?
[12:17] <erUSUL> Diffindo: how have you tested sound
[12:17] <erUSUL> ?
[12:17] <Diffindo> yes
[12:18] <Diffindo> still nothing
[12:18] <nalioth> cafuego_ dribbles his coffee
[12:18] <cafuego_> Hmmm, coffee.
[12:18] <nalioth> cafuego_ butters his toast
[12:18] <cafuego_> Well, it LOOKS like it's still just a + prefix
[12:19] <Diffindo> Sigh...
[12:19] <erUSUL> Diffindo: have you got two sound cards?
[12:19] <Diffindo> No
[12:19] <Diffindo> Onboard
[12:19] <Madeye> guys is it safe to use universe, and multiuniverse with breezy now?
[12:19] <venzen> nalioth are you in the room with cafuego?
[12:19] <cafuego_> nalioth; Ah, I forgot to run /quote capab before :-P
[12:19] <cafuego_> nalioth: Works OK now here.
[12:19] <floppyears> hi
[12:19] <floppyears> what's the command to generate a random password ?
[12:19] <venzen> Madeye: breezy is unstable - ie nothing is safe
[12:19] <nalioth> cafuego_: not working here
[12:19] <erUSUL> Diffindo: how have you tested sound?
[12:20] <cafuego_> nalioth: WHich irssi version you on?
[12:20] <Xorlev> Alright, I'm trying to setup an IPv6 tunnel, but its not working too well, and I have 6 packet errors. Where would I find the logs for a certain device?
[12:20] <inthenow> did half life the game ever get ported to linux?
[12:20] <nalioth> Irssi: Client: irssi 0.8.9 (20031210 2316)
[12:20] <Syco54645> which kernel is breezy on?
[12:20] <cafuego_> identical, should work fine.
[12:20] <nalioth> venzen: i dont understand? we are all here together
[12:20] <cafuego_> nalioth: Is the script loaded OK?
[12:20] <Syco54645> kernel version that is
[12:20] <nalioth> cafuego_: it reports loaded (it's in autorun)
[12:21] <erUSUL> Xorlev: the logs are in Var/log/messages
[12:21] <venzen> nalioth: oh, yeh, true that
[12:21] <erUSUL> inthenow: no
[12:21] <Diffindo> Cd Player
[12:21] <floppyears> anybody know how to generate random passwords ?
[12:21] <inthenow> erUSUL: does it run in plain wine?
[12:21] <Diffindo> erUSUL: Cd Player
[12:22] <nalioth> cafuego_: i'm not seeing + signs, i'm seeing ~user
[12:22] <inthenow> are there any good free 3d linux games?
[12:22] <erUSUL> Diffindo: and have you tried whith a mp3
[12:22] <Diffindo> now
[12:22] <Diffindo> no*
[12:22] <venzen> floppyears: go top panel>system>admin>users> and when editing or creating new user you have a button to do random passwd
[12:22] <cafuego_> floppyears: pwgen or somesuch; apt-cache search password generator
[12:22] <erUSUL> Diffindo: maybe the cable for cd playing is not plug correctly
[12:22] <floppyears> venzen: no, I want to create a random password so that I can use that for personal use
[12:22] <Diffindo> oh helll
[12:23] <Diffindo> There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:///media/cdrom0/AeroSmith%20-%20I%20Don't%20Want%20to%20Miss%20a%20Thing.mp3", you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[12:23] <cafuego_> floppyears: bash your head on the keyboard a few times, sue that
[12:23] <nalioth> cafuego_: perhaps i could go and change all + for ~  in my script?
[12:23] <floppyears> cafuego_: hehe I like that idea
[12:23] <floppyears> cafuego_: thanks pwgen did it :)
[12:23] <venzen> floppyears: ok, follow cafuego's advice - i like apt-get install revelation
[12:23] <erUSUL> Diffindo: you have multiverse an gstreamer-mad instaled
[12:24] <nalioth> cafuego_: on my client, ~clients aren't IDd
[12:24] <Diffindo> whut?
[12:24] <floppyears> venzen: I had used apt-cache search, but I guess I didn't use enough keywords :)
[12:24] <Diffindo> Well...
[12:24] <BlueEagle> Anyone know why the installer attempts to load the floppy module three times?
[12:24] <imnowme> cafuego_, Holland?
[12:24] <boogie> welcome to ubuntu mofos!!!
[12:24] <erUSUL> Diffindo: you have multiverse an gstreamer0.8-mad instaled
[12:25] <nalioth> boogie: please be civil
[12:25] <erUSUL> Diffindo: multiverse is the repo
[12:25] <Diffindo> I have the IDE cable from CD Drive, would I need the audio cable that goes to my sound card?
[12:25] <nalioth> Diffindo: if you want to use the cdplayer app, yes
[12:25] <boogie> Diffindo: no
[12:25] <Diffindo> elUSUL: I don't have any clue what multiverse is...
[12:25] <boogie> depends if the application can extract the music digitally
[12:25] <erUSUL> Diffindo: to listen to audio CD (no data) yes
[12:25] <Diffindo> I just barely installed
[12:25] <cafuego_> imnowme: That's a country in europe.
[12:26] <erUSUL> Diffindo:  if you are listen to mp3 in a data cd no
[12:26] <segosa> i've just turned 18 and i don't feel different. how boring. people suck.
[12:26] <imnowme> are you from there, that's what i was asking
[12:26] <erUSUL> !tell Diffindo about repos
[12:27] <ds[de] > segosa: lol what did you expect?
[12:27] <Diffindo> that's it, I'll just pirate XP and use ubuntu for servers
[12:27] <segosa> not much really. :p
[12:27] <segosa> but usually people are all 'omg you're legal now haxhax'
[12:27] <segosa> but then when you think about it, there's nothing i can do now that i couldn't before.
[12:27] <ds[de] > exactly
[12:27] <boogie> where i live girls are legal at 16, not 18
[12:28] <segosa> and i'd prefer to be young.
[12:28] <ds[de] > that is, if you didn't care for the law before
[12:28] <segosa> more time to learn shit
[12:28] <ds[de] > me too
[12:28] <nalioth> boogie: Diffindo: those topics belong in #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[12:28] <ds[de] > and you're not responsible (so much)
[12:28] <segosa> heh
[12:28] <segosa> yeah
[12:28] <segosa> now if i do something stupid online i could go to jail. damn
[12:28] <boogie> women are tight at 16-18
[12:28] <erUSUL> Diffindo: try sudo apt-get install beep-media-player gstreamer-plugins gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:29] <CarlFK> boogie - you have been warned
[12:29] <neighborlee> boogie, this topic does not belong here..please take it to: #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:29] <segosa> heh
[12:29] <segosa> no one warned me
[12:29] <CarlFK> yer smart enough ;)
[12:30] <ds[de] > hehe
[12:30] <boogie> CarlFK you're not even a mod, lol
[12:30] <segosa> there's no such thing as a mod on irc. 
[12:30] <cafuego_> boogie: Don't assume because they're not on the channel they're not watching you.
[12:30] <boogie> you don't have @
[12:30] <cafuego_> boogie: That's a famous last mistake.
[12:31] <cafuego_> boogie: Ops here fdon't idle with an @ on the channel, but they ARE here.
[12:31] <boogie> alrighty then
[12:31] <nalioth> cafuego_: flarbling script SOB
[12:31] <cafuego_> nalioth: Still no joy?
[12:32] <nalioth> cafuego_: /me read the fine manual, and found other options
[12:32] <cafuego_> boogie: op presence should be the ONLY reason for you not to behave like a teenager though.
[12:32] <cafuego_> should NOT be the only reason...
[12:32] <Kyral> Anyone know a good interface to IpTables?
[12:32] <CarlFK> heh - I was wondering about that logic
[12:32] <sdali> I found a "solution" to my problem. I moved /var/lib/dpkg/info to info_moved, ran synaptic to install anything I could find (acct pkg). It worked, so I moved the acct info files to info_moved, and then moved the whole dir back to info. Voila. I can now install pkgs without getting the "missing newline error". Sheesh.
[12:32] <erUSUL> sdali: congrats
[12:32] <sdali> :)
[12:32] <ds[de] > which source do I have to add to /etc/apt/sources.list to be able to install azureus via "sudo apt-get install azureus"? apt-get says it can't find the package now
[12:32] <cafuego_> Kyral: for a desktop box? try firestarter. nice and easy.
[12:32] <nalioth> everyone in channel should act in a civil fashion
[12:32] <CarlFK> Kyral - I use shorewall.  ot sure I would call it "good" but it works and seems to be popular
[12:32] <Kyral> cafuego, I'm not running a "standard" box
[12:33] <nalioth> Kyral: who is?
[12:33] <artjermyn> anyone have any luck installing the latest java in breezy?
[12:33] <Kyral> I run SSHD during the day so I can remologin from the computer labs and FreeNX
[12:33] <CarlFK> for a desktop box, just don't install any servers ;)
[12:33] <nalioth> cafuego_: do i have to /set ID nick color every time i use this bloody thing?
[12:33] <cafuego_> that way I cna blame myself when I mess up, not a bug in a script.
[12:33] <erUSUL> CarlFK: i tried shorewall but it blocked my dns resolution :( i'm using fireHOL
[12:34] <cafuego_> nalioth: not if you run /save once after you set it.
[12:34] <Kyral> I basically wanna throw a rule into place that will deny all SSH connections that do not come from my campus' IP block
[12:34] <CarlFK> erUSUL - what did you expect a firewall to do, let everything in and out? ;)
[12:34] <spacey>  Kyral /etc/hosts.allow if i'm not mistaken
[12:34] <nalioth> cafuego_: whatever that did
[12:35] <Kyral> so I'd put XXX.XXX.*.*?
[12:35] <cafuego_> nalioth: The format strings are stored in the save file, if you didn't save after setting 'em, it can't store 'em ;-)
[12:35] <erUSUL> CarlFK: well it have to let me browse the web... XD
[12:35] <spacey> Kyral, `man hosts.allow`
[12:36] <cafuego_> Clarkson.edu is 128.153.0.0/16
[12:36] <Kyral> ....
[12:36] <Kyral> Do I wanna know how you found that out...
[12:37] <spacey> looking at netblock owner ?
[12:37] <prentice> I currently have two screens. On the second, I remove all panels, and everything is great until I logout/login again. Gnome rebuilds the default panels for the screen. Is there a way to disable this?
[12:38] <erUSUL> prentice: have you tried save current session in the log out dialog?
[12:38] <TokenBad> ok I installed the kde desktop
[12:38] <TokenBad> now question
[12:38] <prentice> Nope. That sounds like a good idea though. I'll try.
[12:38] <TokenBad> when I go to have it do the background slide show thing
[12:39] <TokenBad> and pick files off the mounted drive
[12:39] <TokenBad> says can only use local files
[12:39] <TokenBad> so whats going on with that
[12:39] <moparfan90> hello whats a good window manager thats easy to use and fast?
[12:39] <cafuego_> Kyral: "up /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -s ! 128.153.0.0/16 -p tcp --dport 22 -j REJECT"  in /etc/network/interfaces 9under eth0) would see you sorted too. it'd get reloaded each boot.
[12:39] <nalioth> moparfan90: xfce4, enlightenment, fluxbox, and on and on
[12:39] <apokryphos> moparfan90: lighweight window managers include enlightenment, fluxbox
[12:40] <Kyral> is that nine in front of the under supposed to be there
[12:40] <apokryphos> nalioth: I think xfce's WM is called something else, isn't it?
[12:40] <Kyral> and should I sudo that?
[12:40] <cafuego_> Kyral: That rule would block all tcp traffic to port 22 if it didn't originate at 128.153.0.0/16
[12:40] <erUSUL> moparfan90: windowmaker
[12:40] <boogie> enlightenment e17
[12:40] <cafuego_> Kyral: only rhe bit inbetwene the double quotes is relevant
[12:40] <cafuego_> in between
[12:40] <Kyral> oh I also had lokkit active
[12:40] <Kyral> would this override the rules or...
[12:41] <moox> Hi ! Is there many differences between gnome 2.10 and 2.12 ? I saw the screenshots but nothing seems very different
[12:41] <cafuego_> Kyral: This would currently be appened, so it would probably not override anything.
[12:41] <nalioth> apokryphos: i only know xfce4
[12:41] <prentice> erUSUL: good idea, but it didn't work.
[12:41] <boogie> 2.12 has a menu editor
[12:41] <nalioth> cafuego_: waaaaah, now my nick won't hilight lol
[12:41] <moox> boogie, Yes
[12:41] <cafuego_> ALso try "iptables -t nat -a PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 22 -j MIRROR"  if you feel like being a BOFH
[12:41] <moparfan90> what do you think is the best one????
[12:41] <moox> boogie, but gnome 2.10 too if you install the right packag
[12:42] <prentice> gnome seems to reimport the default panels if no panels exist for a screen. make since as a safety feature.
[12:42] <TokenBad> anyone know what would cause that in kde?
[12:42] <erUSUL> prentice: i don't have to manitros so...
[12:42] <cafuego_> (That would allow them to log in on their OWN box without realising ;-)
[12:42] <apokryphos> nalioth: aha, xfwm -- that's it.
[12:42] <nalioth> moparfan90: try them all and use what you like
[12:42] <boogie>  amsn CVS supports webcam, horrraayyy!!!
[12:42] <cafuego_> nalioth: It's not monday yet, why are you having issues? ;-)
[12:42] <nalioth> cafuego_: what's monday? lol
[12:42] <Kyral> Do I stick those under the Primary Network Interface line?
[12:42] <erUSUL> moparfan90: best for whom? it always dependes on personal taste
[12:42] <apokryphos> Kopete svn has full webcam support, horray! 8)
[12:43] <Kyral> I'm using Ubuntu's default network file
[12:43] <boogie> apokryphos - you tried it?
[12:43] <cyphase_> Gaim has full webcam support, horraayyy!
[12:43] <cyphase_> wait..
[12:43] <cyphase_> no it doesn't
[12:43] <cafuego_> nalioth: mondays traditionally suck
[12:43] <cyphase_> :)
[12:44] <apokryphos> boogie: haven't actually; I've been delaying latest svn for my new computer, which just got delayed last week
[12:44] <Kyral> cafuego, where do I put that line again?
[12:44] <nalioth> cafuego_: i've lost track of mondays many years ago (seems i've always got 7dayaweek jobs
[12:44] <apokryphos> cyphase: maybe one day ;-)
[12:45] <pippin-> What is the best IRC client ever?
[12:45] <boogie> mirc
[12:45] <CarlFK> bx
[12:45] <tdn> Can I get XnView on Ubuntu?
[12:45] <pippin-> bx sucks, mirc sucks
[12:46] <cyphase_> XChat is pretty good
[12:46] <tdn> pippin-, are you trying to start a religion war?
[12:46] <boogie> mirc IS irc
[12:46] <pippin-> tdn hehe, hell no
[12:46] <tdn> pippin-, irssi
[12:46] <pippin-> xchat is good gui client
[12:46] <pippin-> irssi is good term client
[12:46] <nalioth> irc client discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[12:46] <erUSUL> pippin-: Chatzilla
[12:46] <pippin-> Chatzilla is stupid web java IRC
[12:46] <boogie> gaim supports irc no?
[12:46] <moox> IrSSi
[12:46] <pippin-> yea gaim supports IRC in the latest version I think
[12:46] <pippin-> so is trillian
[12:46] <pippin-> xircon is a great IRC client too
[12:47] <cafuego_> Kyral: "up /sbin/iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -s ! 128.153.0.0/16 -p tcp --dport 22 -j REJECT" in /etc/network/interfaces associated with the iface eth0 stanza.
[12:47] <[FiDO] > has anyone tried to run Ubuntu with Microsoft Virtual PC
[12:47] <pippin-> but I love epic, and irssi
[12:47] <boogie> trillian new version is quite nice
[12:47] <cafuego_> [FiDO] : I sued to run Debian in that on the Mac, works fine.
[12:47] <[FiDO] > ubuntu isn't displaying right for me
[12:47] <pippin-> boogie I didn't upgrade mine
[12:47] <[FiDO] > colors are all messed up
[12:47] <Kyral> and where do I put that BOFH one (because I do enjoy being a BOFH :D)
[12:47] <pippin-> boogie what is the latest ver of trillian and does trillian works in linux?
[12:47] <erUSUL> pippin-: *javascript* not java
[12:48] <cafuego_> in X? Oh, I nevere did run X
[12:48] <moox> I saw somewhere Xen will be in the next ubuntu. What is the utility of Xen for desktop use ?
[12:48] <pippin-> erUSUL yea that's it
[12:48] <[FiDO] > it installed fine but the gui is screwed
[12:48] <boogie> no trillian is windows only which really sucks, latest is 3.1 i think
[12:48] <pippin-> I checked to update trillian, it said no upgrades are available.
[12:48] <fmasi> Helo I am a gentoo user and i want to merg my descktop system to ubuntu. But i would like to know what would be the inplications of instaling 5.10 instad of 5.04.
[12:48] <pippin-> so I might have the latest version aight?
[12:49] <boogie> #gentoo
[12:49] <boogie> oh sorry
[12:49] <moox> fmasi, no support for 5.10 yet
[12:49] <pippin-> no need to be sorry
[12:49] <Kyral> Would be very funny to redirect them to thier own SSH port :D
[12:49] <Kyral> just the kind of irony I enjoy :D
[12:49] <fmasi> but is ther enny know problem whith 5.10
[12:50] <cyphase> a lot of bugs
[12:50] <cyphase> well, not to many..
[12:50] <cyphase> but it isn't done
[12:50] <fmasi> would it be mutch bether to install 5.04 ? or 5.10 its ok
[12:50] <cyphase> 5.04
[12:50] <cyphase> well
[12:50] <cyphase> 5.10 is ok
[12:50] <Hergiswi> brb, rebotoing
[12:50] <Hergiswi> rebooting, even
[12:50] <moox> fmasi, or wait until 5.10 release
[12:50] <cyphase> if your willing to play around with it in the event of bugs
[12:50] <pippin-> moox
[12:51] <boogie> monica lewinski is studying in my uni next year, shame i'm leaving, lol
[12:51] <DewDude> breezy has been nice the entire time i've been running it
[12:51] <cyphase> same here
[12:51] <cyphase> except for a probem with X
[12:51] <fmasi> and how is the update system of ubuntu whoul i nead to reinstal every thing from scratch if i install 5.04 ?
[12:51] <DewDude> i got finally got the graphical bootprocess today after i apt-get upgrade and decided to reboot
[12:51] <cyphase> but i've been vnc'ing in, so i don't have the problem :)
[12:51] <boogie> the preview release is not too bad
[12:51] <Kyral> time to drop the interface and load up the new one
[12:52] <DewDude> well, my box is a toy anyway
[12:52] <DewDude> i could care less if it dies
[12:52] <DewDude> i got the main one sittin next to it
[12:52] <Kyral> It isn't taking the line, too many parameters
[12:52] <fmasi> i am use to update every thing whith gentoo and never nead to get new cds will ubuntu be like that too ?
[12:52] <moox> does anyone compare ubuntu and linspire ? Which of them are best for desktop ?
[12:53] <neighborlee> mo
[12:53] <boogie> no
[12:53] <boogie> linspire?
[12:53] <robertbb> lol
[12:53] <moox> lindows
[12:53] <neighborlee> moox, depends on ones needs I suppose but generally speaking ubuntu wont bite so much of your pocketbook but takes a tad more fine tuning for some things..but hey free works fo rme and it a great community ( so its linpsire but hey )\
[12:54] <nalioth> moox and company, please take your comparisons to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:54] <fmasi> hate that dows sufix
[12:54] <boogie> linspire is useless, if you want a real easy distro try Xandros
[12:54] <bdt1805> hey everyone, Im fairly new to linux, and I am wondering which filesystem would be best for a 20gb hdd.
[12:54] <TokenBad> anyone here use kde with ubuntu?
[12:54] <nalioth> #ubuntu-offtopic has fireproof fixtures, so y'all can talk to yer hearts content
[12:54] <nalioth> bdt1805: ext3
[12:54] <nalioth> TokenBad: yes, lots
[12:54] <delire_movie> bdt1805: ext3 is a good safe bet
[12:54] <boogie> ext3 is reliable - but slow
[12:54] <neighborlee> boogie, xandros has its own problems similar to linspire just different ones.. linspire is far from useless
[12:55] <delire_movie> boogie: compared to what reiserfs4?
[12:55] <CarlFK> bdt1805 - the defaults are a safe bet
[12:55] <boogie> delire_movie - compared to everything according to the last comparison i saw
[12:55] <moox> ok, need2sleep! see ya
[12:55] <TokenBad> nalioth, I installed kde to use..and was going to use the slide show option for the background...but when tried to pick backgrounds from my mounted drives..says can only pick local files...why does it not let me pick the mounted drive..even though gnome and xfce did?
[12:55] <delire_movie> boogie: link please
[12:55] <boogie> Xfs is also faster than ext3
[12:55] <ompaul> neighborlee, boogie moox please take the conversation to the channel #ubuntu-offtopic so this place can be used to help
[12:55] <fmasi> i am use to update every thing whith gentoo and never nead to get new cds will ubuntu be like that too ?
[12:55] <boogie> let me look for it
[12:56] <Logtime> hello
[12:56] <bdt1805> is xfs stable?
[12:56] <Logtime> No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[12:56] <CarlFK> fmasi  yes
[12:56] <Logtime> help :)
[12:56] <Logtime> help :)
[12:56] <Logtime> No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[12:56] <erUSUL> Kyral: run the iptables rules you want and when you are done run
[12:56] <erUSUL> '/etc/init.d/iptables save active' and the rules will besaved and activated on
[12:56] <erUSUL> every boot
[12:56] <CarlFK> Logtime stop indeed.
[12:56] <cafuego_> bdt1805: The font server? Yes. The filesystem? Not here.
[12:56] <bdt1805> logtime youve got to run ./configure
[12:57] <fmasi> so it will change a gnome 2.10 to 2.12 easy easy right?
[12:57] <delire_movie> boogie: no doubt you are talking about high end hard-disk recording or similar. ext3 on a disk with DMA will not be noticeably slower than any other fs for nearly any normal daily application.
[12:57] <ompaul> fmasi, once you install it should never need to be, but it is not a new version every day it is develop release maintain while maintain goes forth new develops happen
[12:57] <CarlFK> fmasi - thats the plan ;)
[12:57] <Kyral> yah but I wanna know how to implement that rule that turns all denied SSH attempts back on the attempter
[12:57] <Syco54645> when updating to breezy, once apt is done does it reboot the system automatically
[12:57] <Syco54645> because if not im gonna go get some food
[12:57] <Kyral> I know like nothing about iptables :P
[12:57] <neighborlee> ompaul, I had no intention to carry it on any further, so to not allow someone to falsely acuse a given distro of being 'usesless'
[12:57] <apokryphos> Syco54645: it doesn't
[12:57] <boogie> http://fsbench.netnation.com/
[12:57] <Logtime> bdt1805, i ruinned ./configure
[12:57] <Syco54645> apokryphos: ok thanks
[12:57] <cafuego_> Syco54645: Of course not. WHy would it need to reboot?
[12:57] <Syco54645> cafuego: new kernel :P
[12:58] <TokenBad> nalioth, any idea?
[12:58] <cafuego_> Syco54645: Ah, no.. that's a manual job :-)
[12:58] <apokryphos> Syco54645: it can run on the old of course though
[12:58] <Syco54645> apokryphos: yeah i know
[12:58] <Syco54645> well i am out for food
[12:58] <Syco54645> thanks for the help guys
[12:58] <bdt1805> you prbably dont have the right compiler
[12:58] <nalioth> TokenBad: if the drives are mounted properly, they should be "local" drives
[12:58] <fmasi> CarlFK so its ok if i put the 5.04 and use an update system. Do you think i should install the 5.10 direcli or use 5.04 and then update ?
[12:58] <cafuego_> damn this yiddish spam!
[12:59] <Logtime> c compilier
[12:59] <Logtime> no?
[12:59] <nalioth> TokenBad: try symlinking your folder of pix into your homedir
[12:59] <TokenBad> well I could access the files and everything in gnome and all that
[12:59] <delire> boogie: that doesn't say ext3 is slower, just more demanding.
[12:59] <bdt1805> logtime: sometimes they use gcc, etc
[12:59] <TokenBad> but only in kde is it now giving me trouble
[12:59] <Logtime> yes gcc i installed it
[12:59] <boogie> delire let me find the one i saw last time
[12:59] <cafuego_> fmasi: There is funtionally no difference between those two. One means downtime, the other doesn't.
[12:59] <test34> where can I stop the clock synchonization at bootup ?
[12:59] <bdt1805> check the requirements and download everything it tells you, it will tell you in the readme file usually
[12:59] <CarlFK> fmasi - my guess is you should install 504 and wait till 5.10 is ready
[12:59] <Logtime> someone try to compile gftp
[01:00] <delire> boogie: and xfs, like reiserfs is solid for heavy and specific I/O applications, like large file transfers.
[01:00] <crimsun> Logtime: sudo apt-get build-dep gftp
[01:00] <cafuego_> or insert a 5.10 CD in a 5.04 box and it'll ask you if you would like to upgrade now.
[01:00] <fmasi> CarlFK ok when is 2.10 gona be ready enny idea ?
[01:00] <crimsun> Logtime: then you'll need to add libssl-dev, too
[01:00] <cafuego_> delire: Otoh, with many small files, it's _slooooow_
[01:00] <Logtime> i did apt-get source gftp it's the same crimsun ?
[01:01] <delire> cafuego_: exactly. eg normal daily use
[01:01] <cafuego_> fmasi: 2.10 has been in Ubuntu 5.04 since it released, 6 months ago.
[01:01] <CarlFK> the x.y is the date - Oct 05
[01:01] <dhonn> how do i fix the apt-get "dependancy hell" problem?
[01:01] <Kyral> cafuego_, that line about the redirecting the denied SSH probes won't affect my legit ones?
[01:01] <fmasi> CarlFK ok so it may take some time i gess
[01:01] <crimsun> Logtime: "apt-get build-dep gftp" != "apt-get source gftp"
[01:01] <dhonn> i try to install a dependancy and it asks me to install another and another
[01:01] <dhonn> and another
[01:01] <cafuego_> Kyral: It will if you use the faulty rule I posted
[01:02] <cafuego_> Kyral: .. so don't use that one :-)
[01:02] <ompaul> dhonn, dependancy hell never seen it you must be doing something I am not
[01:02] <Kyral> how would I implement it so it would return send the denied attempts back at them?
[01:02] <delire> dhonn: it sounds likely that you have a broken sources.list.
[01:02] <dhonn> i think it all started when i installed something
[01:02] <erUSUL> dhonn: well apt shoul have avoided the "dependancy hell" it works here (tm)
[01:02] <cafuego_> dhonn: What did you install? Soemthing designed for another Ubuntu version and/or Debian?
[01:02] <delire> dhonn: something third party, perhaps.
[01:02] <sybariten> i'm back, maybe someone remember me from yesterday, with a broken iMac
[01:03] <ompaul> dhonn, what was it you installed, and how did you install it?
[01:03] <fmasi> CarlFK i am looking forward to test ubuntu becouse i have a entreprise whith some frinds and whe only whork whith linux so we are looking for a easy desktop sistem for oure por windows clients
[01:03] <dhonn> i guess ymessenger
[01:03] <Kyral> Wait I think I know
[01:03] <bdt1805> anybody, I have a question about hardware support, does x.org automatically support hardware acceleration for radeon cards?
[01:03] <delire> dhonn: best to stick with the Ubuntu designated repo's. dependencies and versioning is regulated very tightly.
[01:03] <cafuego_> Kyral: Use the exact same rule, but use '-j MIRROR' instead of '-j REJECT'
[01:03] <jamie_1> Hi ppl
[01:03] <Kyral> yah
[01:03] <Kyral> thats very evil
[01:03] <venzen> fmasi: so you chose the correct distro
[01:03] <Kyral> I love it :D
[01:03] <cafuego_> ymessenger is known to be broken
[01:03] <dhonn> man
[01:04] <dhonn> what do i do to fix it now
[01:04] <cafuego_> Kyral: It is. I usedit to redirect back orifice and MS SQL worm requests
[01:04] <dhonn> remove it?
[01:04] <ompaul> dhonn, what delire said - gaim which is installed by default does the job you want done
[01:04] <cafuego_> dhonn: yes
[01:04] <delire> dhonn: yes
[01:04] <fmasi> and since i have gentoo at my server at home i want to chenge from suse to ubuntu for my leptop
[01:04] <jamie_1> Hello, I have a question: Where do I start building a program on Kubuntu?
[01:04] <venzen> fmasi : use hoary and then reinstall breezy when it is officially released
[01:04] <Kyral> and it will autoload everytime eth0 is activated right?
[01:04] <cafuego_> !ymessenger is broken, use gaim instead.
[01:04] <ubotu> cafuego_: okay
[01:04] <delire> dhonn: sudo apt-get remove ymessenger
[01:04] <cafuego_> Kyral: if it's in the interfaces file, yes
[01:04] <fmasi> we i maby do that but i lasy whith instalations
[01:04] <Kyral> very nice
[01:05] <fmasi> wel, used to gentoo instaling
[01:05] <erUSUL> jamie_1: in a terminal emulator, maybe konsole?
[01:05] <fmasi> takes ages
[01:05] <tashiro> mdz: Hi, I saw that you're the maintainer of mythtv. It seems that the packages are broken on the powerpc arch. There are mythtv-frontend and mythtv-backend missing.
[01:05] <test34> nevermind, I found it: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[01:05] <Kyral> I'm gonna have to find out what ports I do use, then set the rest to mirror the attacks back :D
[01:05] <venzen> fmasi - ubuntu is fast - 30 - 40 mins
[01:05] <cafuego_> Kyral: it's not the ideal way for a complex firewall, but with a single rule, it works fine.
[01:05] <jamie_1> erUSUL: konsoile, going to look now
[01:05] <nalioth> tashiro: they're not missing. build them with apt-get
[01:05] <Kyral> cafuego, yah
[01:05] <fmasi> a that ok compared to the 5 houres i take whith gentoo
[01:05] <allen> Hi everyone
[01:06] <Kyral> and I assume it will let FreeNX through?
[01:06] <sybariten> the livecd has no "toram" option does it ?
[01:06] <Kyral> what port does FreeNX use anyway...
[01:06] <venzen> fmasi - be sure to make a seperate /home dir and then you can install new ubuntu versions and keep your home
[01:06] <cafuego_> Kyral: Yes, it ONLY affects incoming non-lcoal ssh
[01:06] <fmasi> what i dont like in suse is that ther is no apt nether portage so its arg to instal softwers
[01:06] <tashiro> nalioth: Thanks, yep that can I do. Nevertheless they are missing in the repo :-)
[01:06] <dhonn> so ymessenger for debian woody is broken on Ubuntu?
[01:06] <fmasi> thats a good idea
[01:06] <bdt1805> ok one more question, where to go for practice exams on the A+ OS exam?
[01:06] <venzen> fmasi - new ubuntu version +- every 6 months
[01:06] <fmasi> how mutch space thas the ubunto instalation take ?
[01:06] <nalioth> tashiro: there are lots of powerpc binaries not available in the repos
[01:06] <cafuego_> dhonn: Yes. Do _NOT_ use debian apckages on Ubuntu. Especially such old ones.
[01:06] <ompaul> dhonn, anything for woody should stay there
[01:06] <delire> dhonn: consider all debian woody applications broken on Ubuntu given they are not officially supported.
[01:06] <jamie_1> erUSUL, in konsole..... so how do I build the actuall program? waht kind of programming does it take?
[01:07] <erUSUL> jamie_1: what  file format comes the package in?
[01:07] <nalioth> delire: consider all debian pkgs broken on ubuntu
[01:07] <venzen> fmasi: standard install abt 4Gb
[01:07] <delire> nalioth: yes
[01:07] <nalioth> jamie_1: depends on what you want to build
[01:07] <jamie_1> erUSUL: File format?
[01:07] <fmasi> venzen is ther alots of pakages for ubuntu or not as meny as in gentoo
[01:07] <jamie_1> nalioth: A Star Trek game..........
[01:08] <ompaul> dhonn, if it don't say ubuntu and you are not told to use it here then I would say Stay away!
[01:08] <erUSUL> what program do you want to build?
[01:08] <cafuego_> fmasi: 2GB normally. More if you add more stuff.
[01:08] <jamie_1> erUSUL: Star Trek game
[01:08] <venzen> fmasi I'm not sure - but ubuntu has a LOT - and always up to date
[01:08] <erUSUL> jamie_1: and what files you have downloaded?
[01:08] <cafuego_> !dstats hoary
[01:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on hoary... 16270 packages, 1437 maintainers, 31005 MB installed size, 9820 MB compressed size.
[01:09] <fmasi> venzen nice then
[01:09] <Kyral> the rule isn't firing up..
[01:09] <jamie_1> erUSUL: I have no idea
[01:09] <cafuego_> fmasi: would 16,270 be enough?
[01:09] <venzen> hehe
[01:09] <TokenBad> nalioth, figured it out...it was a stupid mistake on my part
[01:09] <Kyral> iptables: No chain/target/match by that name
[01:09] <Kyral> Failed to bring up eth0.
[01:09] <sportman> hey
[01:09] <sportman> im trying to instal vmware
[01:09] <ompaul> dhonn, whatever about rpms working on various distros causing hell - the pain happens faster and with much more speed with .debs
[01:09] <fmasi> venzen gentoo takes tomutch time and space for a desktop
[01:09] <sportman> and it says What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[01:09] <sportman> kernel?
[01:09] <boogie> do you guys prefer kubuntu over mepis? lets be honest
[01:09] <sportman> what would the location be?
[01:09] <sybariten> how do you reset a freakin iMac ?
[01:09] <cafuego_> Kyral: Does it work when you run it by hand?
[01:09] <erUSUL> jamie_1: so you want to build the game out of thin air??? XD
[01:09] <ompaul> boogie, stop trolling
[01:09] <chavo> sportman, did you install the kernel headers?
[01:10] <sportman> i dunno
[01:10] <cafuego_> sybariten: via the reset button if it's old and by holding power if it's new
[01:10] <jamie_1> erUSUL: yup. out of thin air........ talk in PM
[01:10] <sportman> i just went thorugh the vmware installer
[01:10] <bdt1805> is it just me or is the 5.10 preview release of ubuntu really unstable...
[01:10] <sportman> and this is where i am
[01:10] <sportman> lol
[01:10] <venzen> fmasi - i don't know gentoo, but ubuntu fits your specs: easy, stable, practical
[01:10] <chavo> sportman, if you had them installed ,the vmware installer would find them
[01:10] <sportman> ahh
[01:10] <sportman> so no ...
[01:10] <sportman> lol
[01:10] <sportman> how can i do this?
[01:10] <fmasi> venzen and what about the kde suporte i just changed from kde to gnome so i may one day use kde for one thing or another
[01:11] <cafuego_> fmasi: Ubuntu includes KDE an optional extra
[01:11] <Kyral> cafuego_,  iptables: No chain/target/match by that name
[01:11] <sybariten> cafuego: i dont know where the reset button is ...  its an iMac
[01:11] <chavo> sportman, install linux-headers-x , where x is your kernel version
[01:12] <sybariten> there is a power button on the keyboard but it doesnt do much right now. maybe becayse the machine is crashed
[01:12] <chavo> sportman, also, did you install gcc?
[01:12] <venzen> fmasi - well you can install kde packages and they will run from the kde (qt) libraries - so no problem - but gnome is the bomb for everyday office/collaboration
[01:12] <fmasi> i have an oficial x86 5.04 cd at home but my leptop is an amd64 aaaa
[01:12] <boogie> pwned
[01:12] <fmasi> i like the look of gnome
[01:12] <cafuego_> fmasi: that will run fine.
[01:12] <venzen> ye
[01:12] <boogie> gnome is getting better, but still no where near kde
[01:12] <fmasi> but its bether to put the 64 vertion no ?
[01:13] <sportman> yea
[01:13] <cafuego_> boogie: Would you mind laying off the trolling now?
[01:13] <venzen> that ole chestnut
[01:13] <sportman> gcc is installed
[01:13] <fmasi> or is ther no big difrence
[01:13] <BlueEagle> boogie: Many consider that (lack of bloat) a good thing.
[01:13] <cafuego_> fmasi: Not if you want to use video, watch DVDs and play flash/java in websites.
[01:13] <allen> what does the command  "sudo apt -get" mean?
[01:13] <boogie> depends - if you want the amd64 version then realise there are hardly any working drivers for it
[01:13] <lundner> can somebody tell me where the downloaded apt-get packages are saved?
[01:13] <chavo> sportman, you need gcc-3.4, the same version the kernel was compiled with
[01:13] <ompaul> boogie, so go to a kde channel and leave the rest of the people in piece you are doing that rubbish in front of over 400 people and it does not look smart or clever
[01:13] <fmasi> cafuego_ so where would be the difrence ?
[01:13] <cafuego_> sybariten: What iMac? A coloured one or a new white one?
[01:13] <chavo> lundner, /var/cache/apt/archive
[01:14] <lundner> thanx chavo ;-)
[01:14] <BlueEagle> allen: sudo is "super user do" (do something with root privileges) and apt-get is a way of manipulating packages.
[01:14] <venzen> fmasi - don't hesitate install the version you have!
[01:14] <cafuego_> fmasi: amd64 doesn't yet support most video codecs and flash.
[01:14] <delire> sybariten: iMacs are designed to be so simple they are impossible to use at times.
[01:14] <boogie> no madwifi for amd64 either
[01:14] <chavo> mine is current'y ~2.6Gb
[01:14] <chavo> I need to clean it up :)
[01:14] <allen> why do i get this message when I try apt? "
[01:14] <allen> lundner thanx chavo ;-)"
[01:14] <fmasi> so its no whorth tu put the 64 vertion
[01:14] <BlueEagle> allen: To look it up in the manual try 'man sudo' and 'man apt-get'
[01:14] <cafuego_> Kyral: try -J REJECT instead of MIRRRO and see if that helps (maybe you don't have mirror target support)
[01:14] <venzen> not yet?
[01:15] <allen> ok
[01:15] <delire> sybariten: i have struggled to find the reset button in the past also. it's on the right-hand side from memory.
[01:15] <boogie> no you will have problems with the amd64 version, i went back to the i386
[01:15] <Kyral> cafuego, REJECT worked
[01:15] <dhonn> thanks guys my ymessenger problem is fixed
[01:15] <cafuego_> fmasi: If you don't have it handy and you want to be able to sue flash and watch videoes, use x86. If you don't care, use amd64. Up to you.
[01:15] <delire> dhonn: anytime
[01:15] <dhonn> hey how do i install firefox 1.5 beta 1 using apt?
[01:15] <fmasi> you pepole are very very nice theks aloooooot. I gona take microsofrt out of the marked in recife - brasil
[01:15] <cafuego_> Kyral: Okay, kernel doesn't have MIRROR enabled. Ohw ell :-)
[01:15] <BlueEagle> allen: Always a good idea to look up a command before trying it. That way you won't blow away your whole system when someone gives you the command to remove all files as root just to joke. :)
[01:15] <venzen> fmasi - 64bit support will grow but the available packages are so much less than the hoary cd you have
[01:16] <ompaul> dhonn, you stick with the version that is for your disto and relase
[01:16] <fmasi> ok
[01:16] <Kyral> cafuego, how easy would it be to recompile the kernel to do that :D
[01:16] <boogie> dhonn - you don't need apt for firefox, just unzip it to a directory
[01:16] <fmasi> ubuntu the windows exterminator lol
[01:16] <cafuego_> Kyral: Easy enough, but probably not worth it.
[01:16] <venzen> fmasi - anossa
[01:16] <allen> why do i get this message when I try apt? "command not found"
[01:16] <chavo> dhonn, you can use the tarball to run Firefox, but it might mess up your profile
[01:16] <ompaul> nalioth, pm
[01:16] <boogie> apt not installed?
[01:16] <punkass> anyone have freenx installed on breezy?
[01:16] <cafuego_> allen: 'apt' is anot a command.
[01:16] <fmasi> what is anossa ?
[01:16] <venzen> allen: apt is not a command: apt-get
[01:16] <dhonn> thats not easy
[01:16] <nalioth> ompaul: of course
[01:16] <allen> ok will try again
[01:17] <boogie> like: apt-get install kde
[01:17] <reiki> well I think I found the problem with my mic not working to record. I have a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card. It has a Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 chipset but apparently the card itself isn't well supported in linux. Ohwell... sound works... I can use an external tuner for tuning my flutes
[01:17] <Kyral> cafuego, next time I recompile my kernel remind me to do that :D
[01:17] <Kyral> or is there a module...
[01:17] <venzen> fmasi - apologies- my attempt to say cheers in portuguese
[01:17] <cafuego_> Kyral:  :-)
[01:17] <cafuego_> bom dia?
[01:17] <boogie> reiki - i also have a turtle beach - the analog output works fine
[01:17] <venzen> que pasa
[01:17] <boogie> digital output doesn't
[01:18] <cafuego_> och, niet veel.
[01:18] <reiki> boogie: I can hear the mic through the speakers. I just can not get it to record
[01:18] <P0S3R> hei all
[01:18] <venzen> un pocito eh?
[01:18] <jamie_1> um.... does anyone know much about writing games from ground up and what code to use?
[01:18] <fmasi> i suposed it was some thing lake wou but was not sure if it was in portuges or amerian lol :) but thx for the efort
[01:18] <delire> reiki: i've found this site an excellent resource for configuring cards and knowing the extents of support. http://alsa-project.org/
[01:18] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> Hey guys, where are the program files stored in linux? I wanna execute something in terminal but xmms doesn't work by itself.
[01:18] <venzen> por nada
[01:18] <boogie> jamie_1 - you want to write games in what language?
[01:19] <jamie_1> boogie: thats the problem.... I have no idea
[01:19] <Logtime> you must add the public key of your self signed CA to your OpenSSL certs directory.
[01:19] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> So I wanna navigate to where I can see it.
[01:19] <venzen> Cry: locate xmms
[01:19] <Kyral> They should make kernel recompilation as easy as sudo dpkg-reconfigure <kernel>
[01:19] <jamie_1> Boogie: I know NO programming languages..........
[01:19] <boogie> if java - look at java 3d, if c++ i have no idea
[01:19] <fmasi> cafuego_ whare have you bean to
[01:19] <cafuego_> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: All over the place, but normally in $PATH (echo $PATH). xmms won't work until you install it.
[01:19] <allen> how do I run this file to install j2re "jre-1_5_0_05-linux-amd64-rpm.bin"?
[01:19] <reiki> delire: thanks... I've been stomping around on that site. I *might* have something misconfigured, but nothiing I've tried gets the mic working. Sound works fine though
[01:19] <D1> can anyone recommend an ident server for ubuntu?
[01:19] <crimsun> D1: oidentd
[01:19] <BlueEagle> reiki: Not familiar with that particular chip, but I think turtle beach were well supported with OSS (Open Sound System), however OSS is now obsoleted by alsa and depreciated but OSS is still availible in the kernel.
[01:20] <D1> does it work out of the box?
[01:20] <kevogod> Does anyone here use Banshee?
[01:20] <fmasi> Is ther enny one that is going to lacfree2005
[01:20] <delire> reiki: ok cool. does this page have something for you? click on the driver for your card. http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Turtle_Beach#matrix
[01:20] <nalioth> boogie: you were asked when you joined the channel to act in a civil manner
[01:20] <D1> by the way, xchat gnome is pretty spiffy.
[01:20] <sybariten> heres a key question for me:  if i try to install ubuntu over a broken install on my mac ... will i be able to do that without formating the drive? in other words, can i do this without losing the 40 gb of movies i collected under ubuntu ?
[01:20] <venzen> fmasi where will it be held?
[01:20] <cafuego_> fmasi: I did some work for Camargo Correa in So Paulo and at a property they own; no idea where that was, flew to it in a private jet at night.
[01:20] <delire> reiki: .. no doubt you've probably been here by now ;)
[01:20] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> cafuego I installed it, and there is a shortcut to it in the apps. It wont start right, so I wanna run it in terminal to see the errors.
[01:20] <nalioth> sybariten: what's broken about it?
[01:20] <fmasi> Recife
[01:20] <Logtime> you must add the public key of your self signed CA to your OpenSSL certs directory.
[01:20] <Logtime> how
[01:20] <boogie> jamie_1- start learning java - pick up the oreilly book 'learning java' - then move on to c++ which is what you need for games development
[01:20] <fmasi> cafuego_ whow nice
[01:21] <erUSUL> cafuego_: there is no mirror target suport in 2.6.13 do you used an out of tree patch?
[01:21] <cafuego_> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: dpkg -L xmms | grep bin
[01:21] <boogie>  java is too slow for games - if you are serious about it
[01:21] <crimsun> reiki: the turtle beach works fine. Which mixer elements are unmuted and selected in alsamixer's capture view (F4)?
[01:21] <fmasi> LAC free will be in recife brasil
[01:21] <cafuego_> fmasi: yes, it was :-)
[01:21] <fmasi> my city
[01:21] <venzen> Brasil is rocking the open source!
[01:21] <delire> true
[01:21] <sybariten> nalioth: well. i removed gnome panel because gnome complained when it started up. Then i discovered that there is no net connection any more, so i cant apt-get gnome panel back in there.
[01:21] <jamie_1> boogie: I am trying to write a Star Trek game...... graphical
[01:21] <boogie> brasil has lots of hot punani
[01:21] <fmasi> and i gona fock windows
[01:21] <reiki> delire: yeah... it says it's just the cs 46xx driver which IS loading and working for sound. I'll keep at it. :)
[01:21] <sybariten> nalioth: it started with a shut-off i think
[01:21] <sportman> how do i find my kernel version?
[01:21] <nalioth> sybariten: use "apt-cdrom" to rescue yourself
[01:21] <cafuego_> fmasi: Well, the bit about having to sit on a plane from Melbourne to Sao Paulo for 18 hours, then work right away, then fly back sucked quite a lot.
[01:21] <crimsun> reiki: recording works fine with it. Please answer my question.
[01:21] <zorba64> sportman: uname -a
[01:21] <punkass> sportman: uname -a
[01:21] <sybariten> nalioth: is that a program of its own ?
[01:22] <BlueEagle> sybariten: gnome-panel is not responsible for your net connection.
[01:22] <titanium> would anyone mind helping me test an ftp server really quickly? it was working a while ago and suddenly it's broken again. just need to confirm it's my end and not the remote user.
[01:22] <fmasi> cafuego_ yes i gess
[01:22] <BlueEagle> sybariten: What does ifconfig say?
[01:22] <sybariten> BlueEagle: i know that ...
[01:22] <reiki> crimsun hold... lotta things happeing here at once. Appreciate the help though... starting alsamixer again
[01:22] <fmasi> cafuego_ i have bean to tasmania
[01:22] <sybariten> BlueEagle: uhm basicly i think it has no IP on the card
[01:22] <cafuego_> nalioth: cheers
[01:22] <fmasi> v my stepmather is from Australia
[01:22] <erUSUL> jamie_1: you are trying to write a game whithout any knowledge of a programing lenguage? forget it
[01:22] <kevogod> titanium, OK
[01:22] <BlueEagle> sybariten: have you got a dhcp server on your network?
[01:22] <CarlFK> titanium - what do you need in the way of ftp test?
[01:22] <BlueEagle> sybariten: ..or are you dialing up?
[01:22] <fmasi> cafuego_ I thinking to go leav in Australia inthe future
[01:22] <cafuego_> fmasi: the coldest and wettest bit of Australia <heh>
[01:23] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> I don't get an error.
[01:23] <reiki> crimsun: mic and mic1 both are labeled capture, but ... I get no ability to raise volume on them
[01:23] <sybariten> BlueEagle: i have a dhcp server ....
[01:23] <jamie_1> erUSUL: what language?!?
[01:23] <fmasi> cafuego_ i loved it
[01:23] <venzen> jamie: erUSUL is right - but you can learn with a book or online tutorial - LinuxFormat ran a good series on SDL game programming
[01:23] <fmasi> cafuego_ My fqthers famly is from france
[01:23] <reiki> crimsun: also Capture and Capture1 are toggled as capture and volume 100%
[01:23] <cafuego_> fmasi: Yeah, tasmania is nice & clean. I've been there one, for a week, just driving around. Loved it.
[01:23] <fmasi> cafuego_ and whe are maby all gona go to australia
[01:24] <BlueEagle> sybariten: have you set up your firewall to block communication on the port dhcp and dhcpcd uses?
[01:24] <cafuego_> fmasi: Australia is slowly going to hell in a handbasket though, the government is destroying it.
[01:24] <crimsun> reiki: are you trying to record from the input jack (line in) or the mic?
[01:24] <jamie_1> verzen: where would I find a Linux book I wouldn't fall asleep on?
[01:24] <delire> cafuego_: i was glad to get out of there for this reason.
[01:24] <fmasi> cafuego_ The thing is that Australia and Brasil ar a bit far away
[01:24] <cafuego_> fmasi: it's only 18 hours ;-)
[01:24] <reiki> crimsun: I believe the mic is plugged into mic :)
[01:24] <kevogod> Learn Ruby.
[01:25] <venzen> jamie_1: www.oreilly.net
[01:25] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> Thanks for the help, guys. I think there is something wrong with the installation, because it neither runs nor gives errors.
[01:25] <erUSUL> jamie_1: do you want a list of known programing lenguages... it can take ages... ;)
[01:25] <cafuego_> delire: must .. destroy .. system .. from within ...
[01:25] <delire> hehe
[01:25] <fmasi> cafuego_ That can change australia have god pepole and thats what maters the moust
[01:25] <jamie_1> lol cafeego
[01:25] <fmasi> cafuego_ 18 thats realy not alot lol
[01:25] <crimsun> reiki: then you need to unmute mic, capture, and ADC
[01:25] <cafuego_> fmasi: Yes, I would have previously thought so, but the re-elected the bastard.
[01:25] <jamie_1> venzen..... what the heckk
[01:26] <venzen> hehe
[01:26] <crimsun> reiki: obviously mute the ones you're not trying to capture
[01:26] <fmasi> cafuego_ Where do you work ?
[01:26] <venzen> you want to programme
[01:26] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> Hey, does xmms run natively in gnome, or does it need a graphical frontend program?
[01:26] <sybariten> blueeagle: the ubuntu machine was ticking along happily for days and days, this just happened. I cant even reach my firewall at the moment ... but thats another story
[01:26] <cafuego_> now i just think they're mainly racist conservative rednecks
[01:26] <cafuego_> fmasi: I live & work in melbourne.
[01:26] <BlueEagle> sybariten: did you try running sudo dhclient eth0 (where eth0 is the name of your ethernet card)
[01:26] <reiki> crimsun : mute in alsamixer?
[01:26] <fmasi> cafuego_ But in usa they do it worst they elected bush 2
[01:26] <venzen> Cry: graphical frontend
[01:27] <fmasi> cafuego_ You just nead to find a way to kill the bastard
[01:27] <sybariten> i think i did that a couple of times yesterday yes ....  with weird error messages. but i'll have to get back to you on that, because i'm trying to boot a livecd right now
[01:27] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> cafuego_ Don't think we're proud of it. Im damned ashamed to be around peope who would vote for that man.
[01:27] <sybariten> to see if i can even get the machine to work
[01:27] <bdt1805> i have a question for everyone, how would I enable DMA on all my IDE drives?
[01:27] <sybariten> and guess what, gnome problems
[01:27] <cafuego_> fmasi: Ours is bush's girlfriend. Maybe you've seen him on tv, Looks like Gollum, but wears glasses and looks as if he needs to go to the toilet all the time.
[01:27] <BlueEagle> sybariten: I see. :)
[01:27] <crimsun> reiki: or any mixer
[01:27] <erUSUL> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: beep-media-player looks nicer with gnome
[01:27] <jamie_1> venzen: yeah. program
[01:27] <venzen> syba: one by one
[01:27] <nalioth> sybariten: boot your machine to the console, and use apt-cdrom to fix yourself
[01:27] <delire> cafuego_: do you remember "The Wombles?"
[01:27] <fmasi> cafuego_ kkk you realy dont like him
[01:28] <sybariten> nalioth: i havent even found a good way to boot a ubuntu machine to a plain console
[01:28] <ompaul> delire of wimbleton common are we?
[01:28] <cafuego_> delire: nevers een 'em, I grew up in Holland and only moved myself here 8 years ago.
[01:28] <fmasi> cafuego_ How is the open source going in Australia
[01:28] <delire> why of course ompaul
[01:28] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> So xmms is actually running. That's why I get no error. But I have no frontend and thus no actual visualization for the player.
[01:28] <sybariten> venzen: heh, how do you mean ?
[01:28] <cafuego_> fmasi: linus just had his trademark application rejected.
[01:28] <reiki> Crimsun: ADC was toggled to NOT capture
[01:28] <erUSUL> bdt1805: less /etc/hdparm.conf
[01:28] <reiki> crimsun but was not muted
[01:28] <delire> cafuego_: had you grown up with the wombles you would find howard a slightly more disturbing figure.
[01:29] <crimsun> reiki: it needs to be captured
[01:29] <fmasi> cafuego_ in brasil  the government is helping alot
[01:29] <nalioth> sybariten: when your machine gets up (as far as it gets) hit ctrl-alt-f3
[01:29] <venzen> sybariten: you want to use hdparm - man hdparm
[01:29] <cafuego_> fmasi: here they would like to give Microsoft as much power as possible, i think. Tragic.
[01:29] <crimsun> reiki: all three of capture, mic, and ADC need to be unmuted and captured
[01:29] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> erUSUL I'm trying to get a particular plugin that requires xmms.
[01:29] <Logtime> ou must add the public key of your self signed CA to your OpenSSL certs directory.
[01:29] <cafuego_> at least I can't be blames, coz I'm not allowed to vote
[01:30] <fmasi> cafuego_ We dont have monay for microsoft so that wy they help linux lol
[01:30] <reiki> crimsun: THANK YOU!  the ADC piece was the pice I was missing!
[01:30] <venzen> Cry: do you have a menu entry for xmms under top panel>Applications>Sound&Video ?
[01:30] <sybariten> uhm, is there an english gnome error message that goes something in the way of this? "an error occurred while starting the gnome-preferences-daemon. somethings such as themes and sounds [...]  wont work allright. the preferences daemon was restarted too many times. gnome will still try to restart the preferences daemon the next time you log in"
[01:30] <fmasi> cafuego_ I gona try to change all 200 computesr at my unoivercity to linux
[01:30] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> Venzen Yes I do.
[01:30] <sybariten> this was translated from swedish
[01:31] <fmasi> cafuego_ gona try edubunto one day
[01:31] <jamie_1> Does anyone know where I can find a game programming language book that me as a 14 year old can read without falling asleep on?
[01:31] <sktrdie> what's the real difference between Xorg and Xfree86?
[01:32] <lundner> no hamie_1 ;-)
[01:32] <cafuego_> sktrdie: the license
[01:32] <sybariten> nalioth: ok ... and then apt-cdrom ... with the PPC cdrom install cd in the drive.  would it be harmless to do some sort of apt-get remove gnome, apt get install gnome ?
[01:32] <cafuego_> fmasi: nice :-)
[01:32] <reiki> crimsun : I just now almost blew my wife out of her chair on playback from the mic... hehehe... thanks man. Now I can use a frequency analyzer when tuning flutes
[01:32] <BlueEagle> jamie_1: "game programming language"?
[01:32] <fmasi> cafuego_ gona be hard but i will try
[01:32] <sktrdie> cafuego_ the functions is exactly the same?
[01:33] <fmasi> cafuego_ i think they get money to use microsoft
[01:33] <jamie_1> Blue Eagle: yup
[01:33] <ompaul> sybariten, killall nautilus may help if not bonobo-slay in a console - both of these can and will kill your gnome session
[01:33] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> venzen: I don't understand why I can't run it.
[01:33] <wolki> hi!
[01:33] <delire> jamie_1: well Python, Ruby and Lua are often used in game programming.
[01:33] <ompaul> sybariten, in a lot of cases
[01:33] <erUSUL> sktrdie: Xorg is a fork of xfree that keeps going xfree86 got stuck when the fork acurred
[01:33] <nalioth> sybariten: you can try whatever you like
[01:33] <BlueEagle> jamie_1: First you would want to find out what kind of game (and on which platforms) you would want to make it for. The choice of lanugage is somewhat limited by those two factors.
[01:33] <sybariten> ompaul: ok
[01:33] <nalioth> sybariten: breezy will be out oct 13 and you and apt-cdrom your way to a dist-upgrade of the whole box
[01:33] <ptlo> jamie_1, you could try python (very nice dynamic programming language) along with pygame (modules for 2d/3d/sound/events support)
[01:33] <wolki> is there a way to find all invalidly coded filenames?
[01:34] <jamie_1> BlueEagle, Star Trek game, and for both windows and linux
[01:34] <delire> jamie_1: i would look into PyGame as a good framework for beginners.
[01:34] <nilezon> need some help with my synaptics/alps touchpad (sony vaio laptop). and yes, i've tried the forums. pls msg me
[01:34] <erUSUL> jamie_1: almost all serius games are written in C or C++ try kdevelop
[01:34] <sybariten> jamie_1: i too would reccommend python - its the language i'm trying to learn  :)
[01:34] <BlueEagle> jamie_1: "Star Trek game" doesn't really say alot. You could make an AD&D2 game about Star Trek tbh.
[01:34] <fmasi> ey how do i register my nickname i never used irc before :(
[01:35] <BlueEagle> fmasi: Doesn't the bot tell you how?
[01:35] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> what's the command to see running processes?
[01:35] <apokryphos> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: top
[01:35] <wolki> fmasi: info on the freenode page
[01:35] <fmasi> dident read it all
[01:35] <fmasi> ok
[01:35] <nilezon> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac, ps -A
[01:35] <ompaul> fmasi, /msg nickserv register <your password here>
[01:35] <jamie_1> all that answered to me, thanks, but any really highly recommened ones over all teh others?
[01:35] <reiki> you guys know who Baby Joe Macey is?
[01:35] <BlueEagle> fmasi: Well, reading it all might be a good idea.
[01:35] <nilezon> need some help with my synaptics/alps touchpad (sony vaio laptop). and yes, i've tried the forums. pls msg me
[01:35] <venzen> reiki: nope
[01:36] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> Both good answers. Thank you. Also, top is so cool.
[01:36] <fmasi> doing it right now
[01:36] <ompaul> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac, you will find lots of great cool things
[01:36] <venzen> reiki who is he?
[01:36] <jims> I'm a newbie looking for some help with MPlayer.  I installed Real10, then installed Mplayer for Firefox, When viewing .mov or .avi, it displays the window, loads the file, but nothing displays...any suggestions?
[01:36] <reiki> venzen: it's off topic... but my wife just came home from a pub and Baby Joe moved over one bar stool to let her sit down. He's a boxer
[01:36] <sybariten> ok ... so ... i'm in some sort of broken gnome right now, this time booted from live cd. how do i easily get into a plain console ?
[01:36] <delire> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: try pstree for a tree of parent-->child processes.
[01:36] <sybariten> and get rid of X
[01:36] <nilezon> doesn't get much response here :(
[01:37] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell jims about w32codecs
[01:37] <cafuego_> or 'ps -f'
[01:37] <venzen> reiki vs Ali?
[01:37] <lundner> try vlc @jims
[01:37] <TokenBad> well out of the 3 gui interfaces I have tried in ubuntu..the one i like is kde
[01:37] <fmasi> well thx for every thing gona go nead to fix some stuff
[01:37] <fmasi> by by
[01:37] <ompaul> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac, do this: xev in a terminal and see how much info happens when you move a mouse or type a key
[01:37] <cafuego_> sybariten: ctrl-alt-F1 will give you a console
[01:37] <BlueEagle> jamie_1: You might want to setup vo=xv in the mplayer configuration file.
[01:37] <reiki> venzen: no... Baby Joe is much too young to have gone against Ali :)
[01:37] <lundner> but i don't know if it plays .mov files @ jims
[01:37] <jamie_1> BlueEagle: vo=xv?
[01:37] <sybariten> cafuego: thanks
[01:37] <jims> Lunder: I followed the Forum page on installing codecs, I think I loaded about 6-7 of them...
[01:37] <venzen> :o)
[01:37] <nalioth> sybariten: you are not gonna be able to fix with the livecd, i dont think
[01:38] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> Hey! I killed a process! Yay!
[01:38] <BlueEagle> jamie_1: Yes. If you read the manual page you would see that it specifies mplayer to use xv for video output.
[01:38] <venzen> Go Cry!
[01:38] <BlueEagle> jamie_1: if that doesn't work try vo=gl2
[01:38] <BlueEagle> jamie_1: also try mplayer -vo help
[01:38] <jims> Yes, I changed the file to default to 'xv'...
[01:39] <nilezon> anyone who can help me with disabling tapping on my laptop ... need help... badly
[01:39] <sybariten> nalioth: ok maybe not ...  actually i just wanted to see the iMac boot into a non-broken state with the liveCD. Very surprising that i get gnome errors there too ....  when gnome has been running happily in the installed environment, before
[01:39] <BlueEagle> jamie_1: "file default"?
[01:39] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> So yeah. xmms is running, just not being all with the working on my desktop.
[01:39] <reiki> nice... mic working in Audacity too.... can't thank you enough, crimsun. This is a big deal to me. :)
[01:39] <jamie_1> BlueEagle: You lost me a couple ago
[01:39] <Toba|Laptop> what do you guys suggest to use for wireless?
[01:39] <mik3> does the apt system upgrade the kernel too when new versions come out?
[01:39] <Toba|Laptop> I'm using wired right now but I'd like to use my wifi
[01:39] <grodius> Can you use GTKpod to actually play music on your ipod??
[01:39] <nalioth> sybariten: that IS surprising
[01:39] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> Nevermind. It worked this time.
[01:39] <TokenBad> anyone else here have a fav gui interface?
[01:39] <nalioth> mik3: yes it does
[01:40] <walter> me
[01:40] <delire> Toba|Laptop: do you mean for surfing access points?
[01:40] <grodius> Anyone know if gtkpod can play music straight from your ipod?
[01:40] <Toba|Laptop> no, for using with WPA
[01:40] <walter> oops - that's what I get for trying to type a command into the console while opening a channel
[01:40] <nilezon> ipw2200 (centrino) works
[01:40] <Toba|Laptop> I need drivers for my card
[01:40] <nalioths_dog> grodius: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[01:40] <Toba|Laptop> I already have wpa_supplicant
[01:40] <Toba|Laptop> is madwifi any good or do I need to get ndiswrapper?
[01:40] <delire> Toba|Laptop: i wrote my own application to handle all this, but it is non-gui
[01:40] <jamie_1> BlueEagle, PM?
[01:41] <sybariten> its as if i burned some hardware or something, inside the fucking mac
[01:41] <delire> Toba|Laptop: there has to be something in gnome that looks after WPA
[01:41] <Han> Can I update from hoary to breezy by adding an entry for breezy to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[01:41] <nalioth> sybariten: language please
[01:41] <Toba|Laptop> I have a d-link g630 with the atheros chipset
[01:41] <grodius> nalioths_dog i said it twice, the first was phrased in such a way that someone seeing it may think i was talking to someone else, so i added anyone. Relax- i only said it twice
[01:41] <sybariten> freaking
[01:41] <BlueEagle> jamie_1: Let me add you to my whitelist.
[01:41] <BlueEagle> jamie_1: ok, you can /msg me now.
[01:42] <delire> BlueEagle: the social firewall ;)
[01:42] <nilezon> please, need help to disable tapping on my touchpad ... cant really use the mouse now... anyone?!!
[01:42] <ubuntu_newbie> Can someone help me with question on the livecd?
[01:42] <venzen> ask
[01:42] <nalioth> cafuego_: this is crazy: the dog gets hilighted but not me...
[01:42] <delire> nilezon: is it a synaptic touchpad?
[01:42] <nilezon> yes
[01:42] <allen> how can I install java runtime envrionment in my pc?
[01:42] <nilezon> think so
[01:42] <BlueEagle> delire: Well, that script has been obsoleted by the requirement to register if you want to /msg, but still got it running.
[01:42] <apokryphos> Han: yes
[01:42] <erUSUL> !tell allen about java
[01:42] <Han> apokryphos, cheers
[01:42] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell han about upgrade2breezy
[01:42] <ubuntu_newbie> I've booted with the livecd and used gaim, set to log my convos. How do I get to the log?
[01:43] <nilezon> delire, what's the difference between synaptic and alps??
[01:43] <delire> nilezon: 'qsynaptics' may help, but ironically you need a mouse to use it. grab an external and give it a go.
[01:43] <delire> nilezon: i have never worked with an alps.
[01:43] <nilezon> ok
[01:43] <nilezon> qsynaptics uses x86free
[01:43] <delire> nilezon: or perhaps i have and just didn't know it.
[01:44] <nilezon> i've only got xorg
[01:44] <sybariten> ok now i'm gonna reboot the mac, into the (broken) HD install. What i wanna do now is just ssh into it, so i can look into the problems remotely without having to sit and type on that useless keyboard . What do i boot into? SHould i type something ?
[01:44] <delire> nilezon: you're right. hmm just a moment. there are userland configuration tools.
[01:44] <erUSUL> ubuntu_newbie:  .gaim/logs/
[01:44] <ubuntu_newbie> And I can't open the ramdisk icon on my desktop. Why would that be?
[01:44] <delire> nilezon: tpconfig?
[01:44] <nilezon> delire, "synclient -h" says that no tp is found
[01:45] <delire> nilezon: problematic.
[01:45] <venzen> ubuntu_newbie: its virtual memory
[01:45] <grodius> Anyone know why often when I connect my iPod it isnt noticed by the system and doesnt do the "do not disconnect" dialogue? sometimes it works, sometimes not
[01:45] <nilezon> i think that the driver isnt loaded
[01:45] <robotgeek> nilezon: is it a powerbook?
[01:45] <Vespoli> hello
[01:45] <nilezon> no, sony vaio
[01:45] <drfunk> anyone know a good site or info source for ndiswrapper   i cant get it to fire up with my zd7000 pavilion laptop
[01:45] <inthenow> welcome
[01:45] <inthenow> ubuntu loves you
[01:45] <Vespoli> :)
[01:45] <grodius> !YEAH
[01:45] <ubotu> grodius: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[01:45] <nilezon> it worked to change the synaptic settings to disable tapping with hoary, but breezy doesnt use the drivers
[01:45] <Vespoli> btw what version should I get
[01:45] <delire> nilezon: hmm
[01:46] <Vespoli> I am confused by this 5.10 preview thingy
[01:46] <ubuntu_newbie> But since I booted from the cd where is .gaim/logs? It can't write to the cd.
[01:46] <venzen> ubuntu_newbie: its all stored on the ramdisk...!
[01:46] <inthenow> Vespoli: its works...Its breezy..if you have sata i think you have to use reiser partitions
[01:46] <nalioth> ubuntu_newbie: it is writing to the ramdisk
[01:46] <ubuntu_newbie> That's what I thought but I can't open the ramdisk icon on my desktop.
[01:46] <erUSUL> ubuntu_newbie: open a terminal and run ls -l .gaim/logs
[01:46] <nilezon> "synclient -h": No touchpad found, Do you use a newer kernel than 2.4?
[01:46] <grodius> Ok. AN ipod connected will put the icon for the drive on the desktop, and the ipod will display a "do not disconnect" message. This happens to me some of the time, but often, my ipod will continue to charge and not actually connect to the system.
[01:46] <Vespoli> uhh its a crappy $799 laptop XD
[01:46] <nalioth> ubuntu_newbie: send off the logs via network, if you want to keep them
[01:47] <Vespoli> Compaq Presario 2100us
[01:47] <nalioth> ubuntu_newbie: they should be in ~/.gaim/
[01:47] <Vespoli> no sata lmao
[01:47] <nilezon> delire, "synclient -h": No touchpad found, Do you use a newer kernel than 2.4?
[01:47] <Vespoli> I wish :-P
[01:47] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> sweet x2
[01:47] <inthenow> Vespoli: itll probably be fine for you
[01:47] <Vespoli> but back to the original question -- which ISO should I get ?!?
[01:47] <Vespoli> 5.10-preview? ?
[01:47] <Vespoli> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/ ?
[01:47] <Diffindo> I'm trying to move a file into /usr but the permissions won't let me.. I can't figure out the terminal commands to create the directory... Help!
[01:47] <inthenow> Vespoli: ya i have no prob with it
[01:47] <venzen> ubuntu_newbie: erUSUL gave the answer: you gotta navigate via the console
[01:47] <delire> nilezon: you will need 2.6.* to use the synaptic driver as shipped afaik
[01:47] <tonkar> somebody knows wich permissions should have the apache server content files?
[01:47] <drylaw> i have ubuntu running on a g3 imac 233mhz, how do i go about installing tuxpaint?
[01:48] <tonkar> www-data?
[01:48] <Vespoli> ahh the "preview" thing scared
[01:48] <tonkar> i mean,
[01:48] <Vespoli> me I thought it was like a tech demo
[01:48] <Vespoli> rofl
[01:48] <erUSUL> Diffindo: what are you trying to do?
[01:48] <nilezon> delire, i use 2.6
[01:48] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> It works! It works! muahahahaha!
[01:48] <Vespoli> what is the default kernel ?
[01:48] <Diffindo> I'm trying to move an executable bin file into /usr/java so I can install Java
[01:48] <nalioth> !tell drylaw about synaptic
[01:48] <delire> nilezon: set 'MaxTapTime=0' option in your xorg.conf to kill the tapping btw - when you have evdev and the driver loaded that is.
[01:48] <venzen> drylaw: sudo apt-get install tuxpaint
[01:48] <Vespoli> 2.4 or 2.6
[01:48] <tonkar> wich user should maintain the apache content files,
[01:48] <inthenow> drylaw: apt-get update or update get install tuxpaint or to search the package database do apt-cache search tuxpaint or use the gui package manager called synaptic under system
[01:49] <ben66> can anyone recommend a easy to use firewall for linux
[01:49] <ubuntu_newbie> I did that command and got back 0 files. BTW, shouldn't I be able to open the ramdisk on my desktop?
[01:49] <nalioth> drylaw: read what ubotu sent you
[01:49] <Vespoli> Diffindo, noooooooo just link it
[01:49] <Vespoli> ben66, sure -- iptables
[01:49] <sybariten> i am standing at the ubuntu login prompt. since i will want to do some silly network commands, and theres no point in seeing the gnome errors again .... can i somehow just go to a console now ?
[01:49] <Vespoli> :-P
[01:49] <nalioth> ben66: firestarter, but a firewall is not needed in linux
[01:49] <Vespoli> I have never used a firewall
[01:49] <nilezon> delire, maxtaptime=0 and tapbutton1=0 in my xorg.conf, but the driver isnt loaded, so it doesnt work
[01:49] <Diffindo> Vespoli: Pardon?
[01:49] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> Hey, who knows stuff about kernels?
[01:49] <nalioth> sybariten: ctrl-alt-f3
[01:49] <inthenow> sybariten: alt F1-F6
[01:49] <nilezon> "synclient -l" shows that maxtaptime=0
[01:49] <Vespoli> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac, maybe people in #kernel-developers
[01:49] <Diffindo> is that ln -s etc etc...
[01:49] <ben66> i just dont want to spend a lot of time playing with conf files
[01:49] <drfunk> anyone know a good site for ndiswrapper or know why its impossible to set up on a zd7000 pavilion laptop
[01:49] <boxerboy> what command do i use to do oppisite of ifconfig
[01:49] <drfunk> ?
[01:50] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> Thanks veslpoli.
[01:50] <ben66> i just want to baninate all trafic other than ports i specify by certain progams
[01:50] <Vespoli> rifk
[01:50] <erUSUL> Diffindo: i use symlinks from /opt/jre1.5.0/bin to /usr/local/bin
[01:50] <boxerboy> i have one of my ips and i wanna look it up
[01:50] <Colossus> How do I make an initrd for the kernel 2.6.13 in Ubuntu? I built the kernel, but now I need an initrd.
[01:50] <Vespoli> drfunk, should work :-/ check the ndiswrapper.sf.net dox  ???
[01:50] <tonkar> nobody knows? ...., should the apache content files be from the www-data user, maybe root or from who?
[01:50] <Diffindo> erUSUL: MS-ish please....
[01:50] <nilezon> delire, this tapping makes me crazy ... if i'm trying to move the mouse it clicks all over the screen :(
[01:51] <cafuego_> if you sue 'java-package' you don't need installations to /opt and symlinks.
[01:51] <delire> nilezon: right.. then why are you getting any action from the tp at all?
[01:51] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> vespoli, That's not a real channel.
[01:51] <delire> nilezon: http://web.telia.com/~u89404340/touchpad/ may have clues for you.
[01:51] <ubuntu_newbie> Ummm about that ramdisk. Does anyone know why I would not be able to open or browse it?
[01:51] <sybariten> malioth: what about the login screen that is started ..? will it be killed? "is it" X ?
[01:51] <cafuego_> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: What did you want to know about the kernel?
[01:51] <delire> nilezon: though i would scour the ubuntu wiki first
[01:51] <ompaul> boxerboy, ifdown ethX where X is the number 0/1/etc is one way to turn off a connection is this what you want?
[01:51] <grodius> Does anyone have an iPod that works and runs on linux, meaning- you can transfer files and listen to files from the ipod?
[01:52] <Diffindo> erUSUL: I'm a Windows Refugee.... Explain things to me carefully...
[01:52] <nilezon> delire, i think i'm using some standard core driver??
[01:52] <delire> Diffindo: ;)
[01:52] <cafuego_> grodius: Yes, gtkpod works fine.
[01:52] <delire> nilezon: yes i do
[01:52] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> I just wanna know how hard it is to upgrade a kernel for better hardware compatibility.
[01:52] <venzen> newbie: its an icon indicating the ramdisk's existence - not a file to be opened, see?
[01:52] <KanRiNiN> hey guys.  I've followed the steps in the guide, but xmms still won't load or play AAC files.  What's up?  FC3 worked fine...
[01:52] <cafuego_> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: trivial
[01:52] <erUSUL> Diffindo: what are you tring to install jre or jdk?
[01:52] <nilezon> delire, and synaptic is some kind of "slave" drivers ?
[01:52] <Diffindo> jre
[01:52] <boxerboy> i have an ip address and i would like to know if it is being used at this time
[01:52] <ubuntu_newbie> Now I do. How odd.
[01:52] <Diffindo> right now, the bin is in my home dir
[01:52] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> Cafuego_ Copy and paste trivial?
[01:52] <cafuego_> !tel Diffindo -about java
[01:52] <ubotu> cafuego_: I haven't a clue
[01:53] <grodius> cafuego did you do anyhing ahead of time to configure your ipod or did you just plug it in and it worked?
[01:53] <delire> nilezon: it's normally quite straight forward
[01:53] <Diffindo> !java
[01:53] <ubotu> well, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[01:53] <cafuego_> !tell Diffindo -about java
[01:53] <erUSUL> Diffindo: you dwonloaded the bin from sun?
[01:53] <Diffindo> Java.com
[01:53] <cafuego_> stupid cold fingers
[01:53] <Diffindo> so yeah
[01:53] <venzen> ubuntu_newbie: goto top panel>places>home and what you see there is the contents of the ramdisk...
[01:53] <ompaul> !tell KanRiNiN about restricted
[01:53] <delire> nilezon: what does happen when you plug in an external mouse? any change to the tp response?
[01:53] <cafuego_> Diffindo: install fakeroot and java-package; then run 'fakeroot make-jpkg jre1.5-....bin' and follow the prompts.
[01:54] <erUSUL> Diffindo: run chmod +x *.bin
[01:54] <grodius> cafuego does the ipod appear in the colomn on the left side of the program, where the playlist Gtkpod appears
[01:54] <nilezon> delire, havent really tried any external mouse yet
[01:54] <Diffindo> I did that
[01:54] <Diffindo> Ugh
[01:54] <Diffindo> Look
[01:54] <cafuego_> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: Not quite thate asy, but close. The trick is to know what you shouldn't touch.
[01:54] <nilezon> delire, do you think that could help?
[01:54] <ubuntu_newbie> venzen: Top panel?
[01:54] <delire> nilezon: it may provide clues.
[01:54] <cafuego_> grodius: I think it did, yes. It's been a while and the iPod is not here atm
[01:54] <sybariten> ok so what are some good ifconfig variations to test my net connection now =?
[01:54] <Diffindo> I've installed Java twice, I'm trying to install it in the 'proper' dir so I can install Limwire....
[01:55] <venzen> newbie: where it says applications places system
[01:55] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> cafuego_ Honestly, it isn't for ubuntu, I want to upgrade damnsmall so it will be sata compatible.
[01:55] <nilezon> delire, thanks for the link btw ... i might download a newer version of the synaptic driver
[01:55] <cafuego_> Diffindo: then make-jpkg is the way to go. Simply generate a .deb, then use 'dpkg -i' to install that.
[01:55] <Diffindo> hold on
[01:55] <nilezon> delire, i might even have to patch the kernel (sounds a bit too advanced for me)
[01:55] <ubuntu_newbie> Mine has Applications and Computer menus
[01:55] <cafuego_> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: fetch new source, configure, build, done
[01:55] <tonkar> venzen: mmm ...., venzen, hi again, i know that you know from wich user should be the apache content files wich are located in /var/www
[01:55] <ubuntu_newbie> Neither of those menus has an entry "places"
[01:56] <apokryphos> firefox 1.5 beta out? Interesting. Anyone tried it?
[01:56] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> What that means I'll never know.
[01:56] <delire> nilezon: grep the ubuntu forums first, keywords are your laptop. i would be very surprised if someone else _hasn't_ encountered the same problem.
[01:56] <cafuego_> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: then possibly not trivial for you ;-)
[01:56] <erUSUL> Diffindo: run the *.bin as root. sudo <whatever>.bin
[01:56] <KanRiNiN> my god ompaul, it's a fix to all of ubuntu's problems! :-)
[01:56] <cafuego_> erUSUL: No, BAD
[01:56] <venzen> newbie: ok, you're running warty right? so find the nautilus navigator under toppanel>computer
[01:56] <delire> nilezon: once discovered, and if you believe it to be a bug, register it. Ubuntu as a project is committed to improving the experience of laptop users.
[01:57] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> Thanks cafuego_ if it's really that simple, I'll check some forums. 'preciate the hint.
[01:57] <Vespoli> delire, :D :D :D
[01:57] <Vespoli> laptop users !
[01:57] <cafuego_> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: Yeah, just re-use the old config file and add sata, then compile, that should be all there is to it.
[01:57] <venzen> hola tonkar: on ubuntu should be ownership www-data and group www-data
[01:57] <delire> Vespoli: errm yes..? ;)
[01:58] <ubuntu_newbie> There's no menu choice for Nautilus, unfortunately.
[01:58] <nilezon> delire, it might be the version of the driver and my xorg.conf
[01:58] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> I don't know what a config file is either.
[01:58] <waaaaaaaaaaaa> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[01:58] <nilezon> delire, i'll give it a shot
[01:58] <Vespoli> btw does Ubuntu support XFS file system
[01:58] <Vespoli> ????
[01:58] <cafuego_> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: you should have one in /boot
[01:58] <ubuntu_newbie> I can go to Computer, Home
[01:58] <delire> nilezon: perhaps, don't forget to check out the forums.
[01:58] <cafuego_> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: it vontains the kernel config options.
[01:58] <venzen> newbie: when you choose 'Home' from that meny you will be using nautilus :o)
[01:58] <gaging> hey anyone who knows how to connect cam in my yahoo messenger
[01:58] <ubuntu_newbie> It juse shows desktop 0 items
[01:59] <apokryphos> gaging: what are you doing?
[01:59] <nilezon> delire, i've been there for like six hours :(
[01:59] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> But once I get it to work, I'm posting the iso. It's gonna be about 55 megs I think.
[01:59] <gaging> i am using linux
[01:59] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> I don't know how to compile either.
[01:59] <ubuntu_newbie> OK. I'm using Nautilus.
[01:59] <cafuego_> gaging: ymessenger is broken, so basically you can't.
[01:59] <gaging> i am using linux
[01:59] <robotgeek> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: it's real simple
[01:59] <delire> nilezon: ;) ouch.
[01:59] <gaging> and i dont know how to connect my cam
[01:59] <gaging> no
[01:59] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> I want to remaster a version of knoppix so that it has the newest kernel.
[01:59] <Vespoli> :-(
[01:59] <ubuntu_newbie> I choose home and see Desktop with 0 items and a document called Fall
[01:59] <DewDude> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac, nice name
[01:59] <gaging> why others can?
[01:59] <crimsun> Vespoli: yes, it does.
[01:59] <venzen> newbie: navigate up one level to your home directory
[01:59] <tonkar> venzen: :D, thanks a lot again, and the last question, when i want add/modify this files, shoud i be login in with www-data, or better i add my typically user to the www-data group?
[02:00] <nilezon> delire, learning by failing ... or trail and error ...
[02:00] <gaging> they use microsoft
[02:00] <cafuego_> gaging: they're not using 1) ymessenger on Ubuntu or 2) Linux.
[02:00] <Vespoli> XFS -- yayy!!!
[02:00] <gaging> yes
[02:00] <crimsun> Vespoli: if you choose the expert install, you can create an XFS partition
[02:00] <ompaul> KanRiNiN, well I do not regard it as a problem, is it a chance to point out to you how the copyright extreamists and software patent extreamists are trying to make you live in a totally pay to do anything culture
[02:00] <delire> nilezon: and you have found no other with your laptop and the same issue?
[02:00] <gaging> in ubuntu? how to connect cam?
[02:00] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> DewDude It gets the idea across. I'm Crys, btw.
[02:00] <sybariten> ok so ifconfig shows that i dont have any IP ... AFAIK. I'm normally on DHCP. Now i gave this line : "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.199 netmask 255.255.255.0 up"   ... is that normally enough to make the machine ready to receive an ssh connection from another computer in the LAN ?
[02:00] <nilezon> delire, it's not a very common laptop
[02:00] <gaging> in ubuntu? how to connect cam? or voice?
[02:00] <Vespoli> sweet
[02:00] <cafuego_> Vespoli: keep in mind XFS is slow for normal use and not as stable as ext3.
[02:00] <DewDude> heh
[02:00] <cafuego_> gaging: "not".
[02:00] <delire> nilezon: out of interest which is it?
[02:00] <Vespoli> its not that slow .... ?
[02:00] <DewDude> i'm running ubuntu on a mac
[02:01] <Vespoli> I think its fast because it caches
[02:01] <DewDude> runs good :)
[02:01] <gaging> you mean it cant?
[02:01] <nilezon> delire, didn't found anyone else with the same problem and a solution
[02:01] <cafuego_> Vespoli: Yes, it really is.
[02:01] <Vespoli> :-/
[02:01] <delire> DewDude: excellent ;)
[02:01] <ubuntu_newbie> OK, I'm up one level and I see Overlay, root and warty
[02:01] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> Ditto. dewdude.
[02:01] <venzen> tonkar: you can set your own user and group as owners of the file :o)
[02:01] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> My i586 is so fooked up.
[02:01] <cafuego_> Vespoli: deleting say a kernel source tree takes twice the time on xfs compared to ext3 here.
[02:01] <nilezon> delire, sony vaio vgn-s2xp (same as vgn-s270)
[02:01] <delire> nilezon: ahah ok..
[02:01] <sybariten> ha!
[02:02] <cafuego_> Vespoli: I hear it's fine for large files, but not many people do a lot of large file i/o on their desktops.
[02:02] <sybariten> i can connect over SSH!
[02:02] <nilezon> delire, you've seen/heard of it?
[02:02] <tonkar> venzen: ok ...., thanks ;)
[02:02] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> Anyways I'm gonna read those forums now. I'll catch you all later.
[02:02] <sybariten> no more shoulders going into bits and pieces because of awkward positions with the freaking mac keyboard
[02:02] <venzen> newbie: ok, double click warty...what do you see?
[02:02] <Vespoli> cafuego, so what is the best FS for me --- a laptop user
[02:02] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> This mac wouldn't touch my internet, btw. Not till ubuntu.
[02:02] <Vespoli> lots of smaller files
[02:03] <cafuego_> Vespoli: ext3 with laptop-mode enabled.
[02:03] <sybariten> now: is it complicated to do the samba-sharing thing from the console? i normally have a shared dir from the ubuntu box
[02:03] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> Hooray Ubuntu.
[02:03] <Vespoli> laptop mode <---- wtf is that?
[02:03] <adjacent> whats the keystoke in gnome to switch desktops?
[02:03] <robotgeek> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: ext3 seems to work well
[02:03] <Vespoli> how is that possible too ?
[02:03] <cafuego_> Vespoli: the laptop-mode (it's a package you can install) will cause it to not flush to disk every 5 seconds, so the disk can actually spin down and save power.
[02:03] <ubuntu_newbie> In warty is desktop with 0 items and a document called fall which is "OLE2 compound document storage"
[02:04] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> Oh, another question. would it be a daunting task to re-build a tiny linux for a new arch?
[02:04] <Toba|BSD> I have a broken package, how can I find it?
[02:04] <Toba|BSD> it says to use the filter
[02:04] <Vespoli> oooh and how often does the disk spin down by default with this ? 5 seconds with this laptop thing or do I need to turn on some additional feature ?
[02:04] <Toba|BSD> but I can't find how to use filters
[02:04] <Toba|BSD> (this is in synaptic btw)
[02:04] <cafuego_> Toba|BSD: bottom left curner in synaptic, select status, then 'Broken'.
[02:04] <Vespoli> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac, already some exist
[02:04] <Toba|BSD> ok
[02:04] <venzen> newbie: sorry, i am not familiar with the live cd environment - lets try this via console: toppanel>applications>system tools>terminal
[02:04] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> robotgeek: ext3 is a fs, right?
[02:05] <gaging> who know's how to connect cam in ubuntu?
[02:05] <robotgeek> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac: yup, and the default one
[02:05] <venzen> usb?
[02:05] <Vespoli> Cry_Ubuntu_Mac, -_-
[02:05] <cafuego_> Vespoli: normally it would not spin down at all, that's the thing with journalling filesystems, they continually dump the journal to disk.
[02:05] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> vespoli I know. But damn small doesnt.
[02:05] <Toba|BSD> thanks cafuego_
[02:05] <Vespoli> ahhh
[02:05] <ubuntu_newbie> I can open a terminal window.
[02:05] <sybariten> forget my question about the samba sharing ... appearently the sharing still workds, from the ubuntu box to my XP workstation. the ubuntu box cant reach the internet though
[02:05] <Vespoli> cafuego, so I need this package ?
[02:05] <Vespoli> called .....
[02:05] <Colossus> Does anybody know how to use mkinitrd to make the initrd file for a new kernel? Just $(mkinitrd -o initrd-whatever), or what?
[02:05] <cafuego_> Vespoli: laptop-mode contains scripts that tweak files in /proc to change that behaviour, so it syncs far less often.
[02:05] <Cry_Ubuntu_Mac> Anyways, I'm just curious.
[02:05] <Vespoli> :D
[02:05] <ubuntu_newbie> I can open root terminal or plain old terminal.
[02:05] <Vespoli> cool
[02:06] <cafuego_> Vespoli: if you want better barttery life, i suggest using it, yes.
[02:06] <Vespoli> ok so can you please tell me which package this is ?
[02:06] <Vespoli> :D
[02:06] <cafuego_> laptop-mode
[02:06] <Vespoli> k
[02:06] <cafuego_> !info laptop-mode
[02:06] <ubotu> laptop-mode: (laptop-mode aims to reduce the power consumption of laptops), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.4 (hoary), Packaged size: 13 kB, Installed size: 88 kB
[02:06] <sybariten> is it possible that a machine can have problems reaching everything using domains (such as www.realdoll.com) on the internet, but you can still SSH or FTP to external machines using IPs ?
[02:06] <cafuego_> it uses acpi to determine when the mains power is unplugged and then activates itself.
[02:06] <delire> nilezon: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/sony.html
[02:07] <venzen> newbie: plain terminal and then type:    ls -l .gaim/logs
[02:07] <nalioth> cafuego_: when you are bored, i have something to bore you further with
[02:07] <Vespoli> lol
[02:07] <cafuego_> sybariten: If the dns server in /etc/resolv.conf is down, sure
[02:07] <Vespoli> ty ppl
[02:07] <cafuego_> nalioth: Sorry, I am washing my hair...
[02:07] <sybariten> ok ... if so, how can i find an IP to try and reach with some service to see if i have any internet access at all ?
[02:08] <ubuntu_newbie> Ok. There's two lines in the listing.
[02:08] <venzen> syba: ping google.com
[02:08] <robotgeek> sybariten: ifconfig eth0 to find your ip
[02:08] <ubuntu_newbie> drwx------    3 warty    users          60 Sep 15 20:21 yahoo
[02:08] <venzen> newb: what do they say
[02:08] <delire> cafuego_: ahah one of those waterproof laptops..
[02:08] <ubuntu_newbie> drwx------    3 warty    users          60 Sep 15 20:17 aim
[02:08] <dldd> Hi, I'm trying to build ndis wrappers, but I get a message saying that gcc-3.4 is not found.  Can anybody tell me how to get that?
[02:08] <cafuego_> sybariten: 'host www.google.com 207.46.245.230'
[02:08] <sybariten> robotgeek: i know  my own IP (on the ubuntu box) ... its .. hmm well the itnernal IP is 192.168.1.199 right now
[02:09] <venzen> newbie: ok, type:   cd .gaim        (be sure to include the dot)
[02:09] <robotgeek> dldd: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:09] <ubuntu_newbie> Can I view these files and then I could copy and paste them into a gmail email or something.
[02:09] <cafuego_> delire: washing my hair as in "in a few minutes, I am washing my hair"
[02:09] <sybariten> cafuego: let me guess, is that like adding a temporary entry somewhere so that the machine understands that single domain ?
[02:09] <dldd> robotgeek,  Thank you!
[02:09] <Vespoli> dldd,  do not use 3.4!!!!
[02:09] <cafuego_> sybariten: yes
[02:09] <_rb_> heyas all. anyone tried doing a local install of a wiki dump lateley ? I've tried the methods they had on the site, but the script they talk about, ImportDump.php isn't there.
[02:09] <dldd> robotgeek,  I've been looking for that for a long time.
[02:09] <Vespoli> its ___so___ unstable
[02:09] <sybariten> cafuego: cool
[02:09] <venzen> newbie you could but we are still looking for your gaim logs
[02:09] <delire> cafuego_: yes i figured ;)
[02:09] <cafuego_> sybariten: if that works, your dns server is bad.
[02:09] <gaging> who know's how to connect cam in ubuntu?
[02:09] <sybariten> ok
[02:09] <gaging> who know's how to connect cam in ubuntu?
[02:10] <ubuntu_newbie> Ok.
[02:10] <dldd> Vespoli, that's the error I get.  It looks like I have 4.0 installed already
[02:10] <ubuntu_newbie> I did that.
[02:10] <ubuntu_newbie> accels  accounts.xml  blist.xml  icons  logs  prefs.xml  smileys
[02:10] <ubuntu_newbie> That's that it says when I do ls
[02:10] <Vespoli> ok x-\ I thought you had 4.0
[02:10] <ubuntu_newbie> Ahhh. We're closing in on logs
[02:10] <robotgeek> gaging: asking your question repeatedly will not ensure that someone will answer you. we've seen you asking before, and if someone know, be assured that they will reply.
[02:10] <delire> gaging: don't repeat. what web camera is it? try plugging it in and using a webcam application like camorama
[02:10] <ubuntu_newbie> logs has aim yahoo.
[02:11] <sybariten> uhm ok i got a really odd error with the host command
[02:11] <nalioth> aarrrgh
[02:11] <venzen> newbie: no irc folder?
[02:11] <ubuntu_newbie> They're in bright blue type, the filenames, that is.
[02:11] <cafuego_> such as?
[02:11] <ubuntu_newbie> Nope. No irc folder.
[02:11] <cafuego_> nalioth: What were you going to make my day interesting with?
[02:12] <sybariten> timer.c:645: fatal error: RUNTIME_CHECK(isc_time_now(&now(( == 0) failed
[02:12] <_rb_> oh yeah, and whats this i hear about nvidia being broken in 5.04 ?
[02:12] <nalioth> cafuego_: when you "eyes nalioth" my nick highlights, but that's the only time it does
[02:12] <venzen> newbie then you have to set in your gaim preferences:  logging>log all chats
[02:12] <cafuego_> sybariten: system clock skewed?
[02:12] <hablandocontigo> hi, I'm trying to share user folder with this Mac connected to my network, I created an smb share via gnome/ubuntu tool and tried to connect to it through network but I get the message "could not connect because original item could not be found"
[02:12] <ubuntu_newbie> I am logging all chats.
[02:12] <apokryphos> ubuntu_newbie: congrats!
[02:12] <robotgeek> nalioth: did it stop working suddenly?
[02:12] <ubuntu_newbie> I found them.
[02:12] <cafuego_> nalioth so maybe it refuses to match when there's a colon
[02:13] <ubuntu_newbie> What's the command to display a file?
[02:13] <venzen> newbie: tell us
[02:13] <sybariten> cafuego: perhaps ...  ubuntu complains nowadays when it tries to do some nfs-thing in the startup ...    ...if nfs is the correct name for that clock-service ... on the net
[02:13] <dldd> Vespoli,  Is there some way I can tell it to use 4.0?
[02:13] <venzen> newbie: cat <file>
[02:13] <ubuntu_newbie> Equivalent of the DOS type command?
[02:13] <cafuego_> sybariten: No, ntp :-)
[02:13] <ubuntu_newbie> Ahh right.
[02:13] <sybariten> cafuego: oh, yeah, i mean ntp
[02:13] <delire> venzen: hehe hmm
[02:13] <sybariten> nfs is the file sharing thing
[02:13] <cafuego_> sybariten: Start with: 'ntpdate -s 202.125.40.143'
[02:13] <robotgeek> ubuntu_newbie: cat <filename> | less
[02:13] <cafuego_> sybariten: run that as root.
[02:13] <Vespoli> sorry dldd
[02:13] <sybariten> whats that IP? some german time server ?
[02:14] <ubuntu_newbie> OK I dug down and found some text files.
[02:14] <cafuego_> sybariten: no, an australian pool.ntp.org mirror (mine)
[02:14] <ubuntu_newbie> What I thought was a file was a directory
[02:14] <dldd> ok, thanks anyway.
[02:14] <sybariten> ok
[02:14] <sybariten> no complaints actually!
[02:14] <venzen> newbie: go in there and dig :o)
[02:14] <cafuego_> After that, run that host command again.
[02:14] <sybariten> shall i try the host command again now ?
[02:14] <sybariten> ok
[02:15] <ubuntu_newbie> How do I copy a file name from the directory listing and paste it into the command line after the cat command?
[02:15] <cafuego_> If that then works, add 'nameserver 207.46.245.230' in your /etc/resolv.conf
[02:15] <sybariten> samer error, more or less
[02:15] <venzen> newbie: you gotta do ctrl+shift+c
[02:15] <ubuntu_newbie> OK
[02:15] <sybariten> actually i dont think the "time" and "timer" in the error msg necessarily refers to system clock
[02:15] <venzen> newbie: and then ctrl+shift+v to paste
[02:15] <cafuego_> sybariten: is your system on time?
[02:16] <sybariten> hm ... "date" command perhaps ?
[02:16] <delire> ubuntu_newbie: select and then middle mouse button to paste, or use a copy keybind if your terminal supports it.
[02:16] <ubuntu_newbie> Yeeeehaaah! i
[02:16] <cafuego_> sybariten: yeah
[02:16] <venzen> newbie: excellent X)
[02:16] <ubuntu_newbie> I got the (*&* file to display
[02:16] <sybariten> fri jan 1 03:34:36 CET 1904
[02:16] <sybariten> i'd say thats slightly off the beat, yes
[02:16] <hablandocontigo> hi, I'm trying to share user folder with this Mac connected to my network, I created an smb share via gnome/ubuntu tool and tried to connect to it through network but I get the message "could not connect because original item could not be found"
[02:16] <venzen> well done
[02:16] <nalioth> hablandocontigo: use NFS when sharing with macs
[02:16] <ubuntu_newbie> OK. Who wants to hire me as a sysadmin now? LOL
[02:17] <delire> hablandocontigo: strange.. are you trying to refresh an old share?
[02:17] <nalioth> hablandocontigo: at least if you're sharing with OSX
[02:17] <cafuego_> sybariten: Well, from C experience, &now would normally indicate a call to localtime() and storing the result in a time_t *
[02:17] <agoncalves> I guys, can anyone tell me how to install my bluetooth in ubunto? cheers.
[02:17] <venzen> ubuntu_newbie: please type:   pwd   and tell me what it outputs
[02:17] <_rb_> anyone tried installing wikibooks/wikimedia on a linux box before ?
[02:17] <sybariten> cafuego: ok
[02:17] <cafuego_> sybariten: Can you make sure that ntp-simple isn't running?
[02:17] <cafuego_> sybariten: Then rerun ntpdate
[02:17] <sybariten> hm, but the sucess of the ntpdate command must mean that it can more or less reach some parts of the net
[02:17] <sybariten> ok hang on
[02:17] <Vespoli> ping google.com
[02:17] <hablandocontigo> delire I am using Mac OS X Tiger with Ubuntu Hoary Hedghog completely updated
[02:18] <vermyndax> evenin
[02:18] <cafuego_> sybariten: Yes, but ntpdate can fail if ntp-simple is running
[02:18] <hablandocontigo> delire I just created this shared folder today
[02:18] <ubuntu_newbie> It's warty@ubuntu:~/.gaim/logs/aim/myusername/thepersonIchattedwithsusername
[02:18] <cafuego_> oh dear, a bitchx user. I though we'd exterminated those...
[02:19] <nalioth> hablandocontigo: NFS is built into both of your systems, samba should not be necessary
[02:19] <delire> hablandocontigo: right, OSX tiger confuses the hell out of me. i would ask others here.
[02:19] <TokenBad> I know going to get tired of hearing this..but what is program to watch bandwidth for ubuntu?
[02:19] <delire> cafuego_: hey ;)
[02:19] <nalioth> hablandocontigo: samba is a microsoft necessity
[02:19] <venzen> OK well done XD
[02:19] <Vespoli> samba is retarded crap
[02:19] <sybariten> ntp-simple isnt a command on my machine
[02:19] <cafuego_> hablandocontigo: get 'NFS Manager' for OSX, it's shareware, but you'll need it only once. makes setting up OSX as dyanmic NFS client nice and easy.
[02:19] <Vespoli> ms should be shot in the face for something that retarded
[02:19] <venzen> now try: (in terminal): ls -al
[02:19] <Vespoli> and slow
[02:19] <Vespoli> N F S RULEZ00RZ
[02:20] <vermyndax> NFS is built in to Windows 2003 R2
[02:20] <DewDude> holy moly
[02:20] <Diffindo> I'm trying to follow the instructions on
[02:20] <cafuego_> sybariten; Hmm, try 'sudo ntpdate -v -s 202.125.40.143'
[02:20] <Diffindo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions
[02:20] <DewDude> they're rapidly releasing new updates for the breezy preview
[02:20] <Vespoli> omg you serious?
[02:20] <cafuego_> vermyndax: who cares?
[02:20] <Diffindo> And I get the following error msg
[02:20] <Vespoli> nfs is built in? :-o
[02:20] <hablandocontigo> nalioth thanks, I will try nfs
[02:20] <vermyndax> Vespoli: yep, totally serious
[02:20] <Diffindo> /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: make-jpkg: command not found
[02:20] <hablandocontigo> delire thanks for your help
[02:20] <Diffindo> help
[02:20] <cafuego_> Diffindo: sudo apt-get install java-package
[02:20] <nalioth> hablandocontigo: see what cafuego_ told you above
[02:21] <ubuntu_newbie> Thanks venzen. I really appreciate it.
[02:21] <sybariten> cafuego: i'm already root. .. but ok
[02:21] <vermyndax> services for unix is now a standard part of the OS in Windows 2003 R2 and up... including NFS services
[02:21] <Diffindo> I did that
[02:21] <venzen> welcome
[02:21] <cafuego_> sybariten:  ah ok :-)
[02:21] <cafuego_> sybariten: the -v should give some info as to what it's doing
[02:21] <venzen> also try:    cd ../    and then    ls -al
[02:21] <Diffindo> E: Couldn't find package java-package
[02:21] <sybariten> cafuego: actually it didnt
[02:22] <sybariten> took sligtly longer than the last ntpdate command, but no output at all.
[02:22] <Diffindo> fuck it
[02:22] <hablandocontigo> cafuego_ thanks for the top
[02:22] <delire> language sonny
[02:22] <khermans> anyone know of a DVD burning app other than k3b -- and hopefully GUI?
[02:22] <hablandocontigo> tip*
[02:22] <vermyndax> khermans: gnomebaker
[02:22] <TokenBad> what is program to watch bandwidth for ubuntu?
[02:22] <ShakeZula> Hi...  I'm having trouble with my sound.  IN short, I have none.  Ub found my Sound Blaster Live! card, but nothing is happening.
[02:22] <_rb_> have you searched synaptic khermans
[02:22] <khermans> _rb_, yes
[02:23] <clarkn0va> hey, i just got a wireless b card for this laptop.  can someone tell me what utility i need to run to set it up?
[02:23] <cafuego_> hablandocontigo: Oh, and you WILL need to use a map file to map user and group IDs between Ubuntu and OSX.
[02:23] <khermans> vermyndax, gnomebaker does DVD+/- R?
[02:23] <cafuego_> hablandocontigo: Ubuntu starts users at 1000, OSX at 500.
[02:23] <venzen> khermans: try this tutorial http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-117709-highlight-howto+dvd+avi+mpeg.html
[02:23] <cafuego_> sybariten: And still no joy from 'date' ?
[02:23] <vermyndax> khermans: I've yet to burn a DVD with it, but it detected my burner correctly
[02:23] <delire> cafuego_: out of interest why is that *neccessary?
[02:23] <delire> cafuego_ ok i see above
[02:24] <cafuego_> delire: Coz OSX user 500 may not write to a dir own by Ubuntu user 1000, it goes horribly wrong, unless you detsroy the perms.
[02:24] <jynx> would anyone know why i can't install k3b to breezy? get this message in synaptic - Depends: k3blibs but it is not going to be installed
[02:24] <cafuego_> Sadly OSX doesn't include rpc.ugidd.
[02:24] <delire> cafuego_: right, yes
[02:24] <jynx> am a newbie
[02:24] <jori> i have gtk and gtk-dev installt but i can stil not build Gtk thinks its stil say i don't have GTK :S
[02:25] <Vespoli> :S
[02:25] <jori> Package libgtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[02:25] <jori> 
[02:25] <Vespoli> wtf?
[02:25] <cafuego_> khermans: yes, gnome-baker does DVDs just fine.
[02:25] <clarkn0va> i just got a wireless b card for this laptop.  can someone tell me what utility i need to run to set it up?
[02:25] <_rb_> oh well, last try.
[02:25] <robotgeek> !wireless
[02:25] <ubotu> I heard wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:25] <jori> Vespoli, i'm building by hand maby dat is the error :S
[02:25] <poningru> clarkn0va: depends on what card it is
[02:26] <_rb_> Does anyone here run wikibooks locally, or does anyone know how to install the data dump ( xml ) into a mysql database
[02:26] <poningru> check out that website
[02:26] <delire> _rb_ no, though i am soon to give it a go.
[02:26] <sybariten> cafuego: no...  still in the wrong decade
[02:26] <poningru> _rb_: -> #wikimedia
[02:26] <clarkn0va> thanks
[02:26] <Vespoli> jori, rofl
[02:26] <_rb_> oooo. din think of that. I'd been trying to go there when i got on mirc and got sidetracked by an ubuntu channel
[02:27] <agoncalves> does anyone knows how to install a usb bluetooth?
[02:27] <sybariten> oh well i think i will go to bed now anyways, dont feel to alert. i will come back and pester you tomorrow. thanks for your help!
[02:27] <_rb_> erm... xirc.
[02:27] <delire> _rb_ hehe
[02:27] <sybariten> to = too
[02:27] <lundner> has somebody an idea how to include the irc chat in the background?!
[02:28] <poningru> I would be interested in knowing this as well
[02:28] <jori> Vespoli, what so funny ?
[02:28] <norman> dryde.net
[02:29] <Vespoli> jori, compiling by hand it so crazy because I suck at it
[02:29] <poningru> who's the mozilla-firefox package maintainer?
[02:29] <poningru> is s/he working on 1.0.7?
[02:29] <jori> Vespoli, we you're bluiding sameting you're self it can be usefull
[02:29] <Vespoli> k
[02:30] <poningru> !firefox
[02:30] <ubotu> poningru: What?
[02:30] <poningru> !mozilla-firefox
[02:30] <ubotu> poningru: No idea
[02:30] <Vespoli> wtf
[02:30] <Vespoli> !firefox
[02:30] <Vespoli> !firefox
[02:30] <Vespoli> !firefox
[02:30] <nilezon> delire, new question ... how do i enable xorg startup logging, and where do i find the log?
[02:30] <Vespoli> stop it people
[02:30] <delire> nilezon /var/log/X.0.log
[02:31] <delire> nilezon sorry /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:31] <nilezon> delire, thanks!
[02:31] <delire> nilezon: np
[02:32] <delire> ok, tis late. out
[02:33] <armor98926> hey how do i check my cookies?
[02:34] <nilezon> delire, the synaptic driver seem to load at startup ... very strange
[02:35] <h4zn__> How do i import Music from my cd?
[02:35] <Vespoli> :'(
[02:35] <Vespoli> h4zn__, wtf do you mean
[02:35] <armor98926> my cookies
[02:35] <Vespoli> your cookies are belong to us
[02:35] <armor98926> no
[02:35] <Vespoli> yes
[02:35] <armor98926> no
[02:35] <Vespoli> MUAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
[02:35] <h4zn__> I wan to copy the music i have in a cd to a folder
[02:36] <Vespoli> great -- use nautilus or konqueror
[02:36] <Vespoli> armor98926, lol sorry
[02:36] <Vespoli> I have no clue
[02:36] <Vespoli> depends on browser
[02:36] <Vespoli> I use IE on Linux >:)
[02:36] <Vespoli> j/k
[02:36] <h4zn__> So do you konw how to do it?
[02:36] <armor98926> anyway how do i check my cookies
[02:36] <Colossus> I know someone who does.
[02:36] <Colossus> He's a web designer, though.
[02:37] <h4zn__> Anyone?
[02:37] <naurd> Hi all, what's the prefered wireless roaming tool under ubuntu...  For now, i use netapplet...
[02:37] <nalioth> armor98926: some more info would be nice...browser name, etc
[02:37] <ubuntu_newbie> Thanks again venz. Now I'm going to reboot and try to get it recognize my USB keychain. Wish me luck!
[02:37] <_quik_> hey folks
[02:38] <TokenBad> what is program to watch bandwidth for ubuntu?
[02:38] <_quik_> is it possible/sensible to install ubuntu to a local harddrive?
[02:38] <venzen> h4zn: you want to use an app like 'grip' torip the music to your home folder, right?
[02:38] <h4zn__> yes
[02:39] <venzen> so, sudo apt-get install grip
[02:39] <venzen> has good help files
[02:39] <h4zn__> thanks
[02:39] <venzen> sho
[02:39] <armor98926> how do i check my cookies
[02:40] <hubert> ??
[02:40] <venzen> armor: go firefox preferences and then click privacy tab and there is a button to see your cookies
[02:40] <armor98926> ok thanx
[02:40] <armor98926> i dont have that capability is their another way
[02:41] <_quik_> how can I install ubuntu?
[02:41] <giovann> hello
[02:41] <giovann> any one here know how to install a webcam in ubuntu ?
[02:41] <nalioth> _quik_: download an install disk at www.ubuntulinux.org/download
[02:41] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell _quik_ about install
[02:42] <giovann> does any one here know how to install a webcam in yahoo mesenger ?
[02:42] <giovann> any body home ?
[02:43] <bdt1805> what would be the proper format for setting dma on my cdrom drive in /etc/modules?
[02:43] <_quik_> is there a net-install option?
[02:43] <bdt1805> in the modules file? no
[02:44] <bdt1805> Im used to just going into device manager in windows to enable dma hehe
[02:45] <armor98926> need to check my cookies how do i do that
[02:45] <h4zn__> Do i rip Or rip+ encode?
[02:45] <bdt1805> heres what I put, "options /dev/hdc dma=1" am i supposed to replace "options" with something?
[02:46] <persia> It's Bug Day!  We're attempting to fix bugs in #ubuntu-bugs to make Breezy all it could be, but don't have any representatives running under PowerPC.  Is there anyone here running Breezy on PowerPC who would be willing to help?
[02:46] <armor98926> can anyone tell me how to check my cookies
[02:46] <hay> how can i add a new hard drive to my ubuntu machine and make that the new /home partition?
[02:47] <robotgeek_away> persia: sure
[02:47] <persia> robotgeek_away: Please /join #ubuntu-bugs.  Thank you very much.
[02:48] <nalioth> armor98926: please give us more info
[02:48] <ugo> anyone know the package for makeinfo
[02:48] <ugo> ?
[02:48] <ugo> et al...
[02:48] <Diffindo> okay...
[02:48] <Diffindo> I need someone
[02:48] <Diffindo> to take me
[02:49] <Diffindo> by the hand
[02:49] <Diffindo> and detail
[02:49] <Diffindo> the *exact* steps
[02:49] <Diffindo> to installing Java
[02:49] <bdt1805> lol
[02:49] <Diffindo> please
[02:49] <ugo> makeinfo
[02:49] <transgre1s> hey anyone have any clue about how much space it would take if i had beagle index my entire harddrive?
[02:49] <ugo> too...
[02:49] <nalioth> Diffindo: that is the way to get removed
[02:49] <hay> Diffindo: that is where $ comes in handy
[02:49] <TokenBad> Diffindo did you check ubuntuguide.org?
[02:50] <Diffindo> not
[02:50] <Diffindo> no*
[02:50] <TokenBad> well go there
[02:50] <TokenBad> it has a step by step on it
[02:50] <nalioth> Diffindo: do not use your enter key for puntuation
[02:50] <ugo> meanwhile openafs-client finally worked today when i did a dist-upgrade
[02:51] <GH0|HP> Hello
[02:51] <GH0|HP> I have a question.
[02:51] <ugo> need to compile the module which is why i need the conf tools....which apparently arent installed by default....
[02:51] <GH0|HP> I am trying to install ubuntuu, except when I install it stops at mounting CD-Rom Drive. and I cant get past it. What can I do to make it get past it?
[02:51] <nalioth> GH0|HP: check your md5 sums on your cd
[02:52] <GH0|HP> Where is that?
[02:52] <ugo> which is why i asked the question...which was does anyone know the correct package names of the autoconf tools
[02:52] <Diffindo> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[02:52] <Diffindo> ^I got that
[02:52] <TokenBad> did you edit the repository list?
[02:52] <TokenBad> and then update apt-get?
[02:52] <Diffindo> Forgive me in my complete noobish-ness...
[02:52] <TokenBad> Diffindo, msg me
[02:52] <Diffindo> take me by the hand...
[02:53] <nalioth> GH0|HP: on your cd in the root is a txt file with md5 sums, run your md5 on it and check the cd
[02:53] <_quik_> if I'm running ubuntu from a live cd, can I burn cd's still?
[02:54] <Diffindo> _quik_: If you have a free CD-R drive... maybe
[02:54] <_quik_> heh
[02:54] <Xappe> seems like the send-on-enter msn kids has finally reached the irc networks :P *scrolling the log*
[02:54] <_quik_> nooe
[02:54] <_quik_> Looks like I'll copy it to the other machine
[02:54] <GH0|HP> Through, DOS (I am running windows 2K right now.)?
[02:54] <giovann> hello
[02:55] <TokenBad> Diffindo, are you checking your msg that I sending?
[02:55] <TokenBad> to tell you what to do?
[02:55] <giovann> may ask if ubuntu can install an online game ?
[02:55] <Jeaton> GH0|HP - do you still have the ISO on that computer you're using
[02:55] <Jeaton> ?
[02:55] <giovann> is there have an online game to install in linux ?
[02:55] <GH0|HP> Yes.
[02:56] <Jeaton> PM me
[02:56] <nalioth> TokenBad: you have to be identified to nickserv to send private messages
[02:56] <giovann> how to install an online game ?
[02:56] <giovann> can some one help me pls
[02:57] <giovann> hello
[02:57] <consoleathletics> is there anyplace to play the clue boardgame online or a linux download?
[02:57] <h4zn__> MY browser stoped working...
[02:58] <nalioths_dog> giovann: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[02:58] <h4zn__> why is this and how can i fix it?
[02:58] <TokenBad> heheh
[02:58] <TokenBad> thanks nalioth
[02:58] <giovann> ok
[02:58] <ugo> help! i need to compile openafs....! the configure script is complaining about a missing package
[02:58] <giovann> lol
[02:58] <ugo> help help help!!!!
[02:58] <nilezon> nalioths_dog, stop repeating the same answer :)
[02:58] <ugo> jeeze what does a man have to do here to get some assistance...!
[02:58] <djm62> ugo: apt-cache search missingpackage
[02:59] <armor98926> how do i check my cookies
[02:59] <ugo> well thank you jdm62....
[02:59] <Xappe> ugo: ask?
[02:59] <Vespoli> hello
[02:59] <ugo> but i already tried that
[02:59] <Vespoli> damn it stop with the cookies
[02:59] <Vespoli> go to #fedora
[02:59] <ugo> here's the missing package list
[02:59] <djm62> then install the package (probably libsomething-dev) that seems to fit best
[02:59] <Vespoli> :-P
[02:59] <nalioth> ugo: if you read the configure output, you can help yourself
[02:59] <armor98926> as soon as i get told how to check them then i will leave
[03:00] <DewDude> how can i find out what window manager i'm using?
[03:00] <armor98926> until then i will stay here
[03:00] <h4zn__> MY browser stoped working......why is this and how can i fix it?
[03:00] <nalioth> armor98926: WHAT browser are you using? you've been asked several times
[03:00] <armor98926> Firefox
[03:00] <armor98926> i never got it sorry nal
[03:00] <ugo> nalioth...if i could help myself i honestly wouldnt be asking....
[03:01] <Vespoli> how can I burn an UBUNTU ISO without graphical tools ?
[03:01] <Vespoli> how can I burn an UBUNTU ISO without graphical tools ?
[03:01] <ugo> trust me...sometimes asking a question saves time....thats all....
[03:01] <nalioths_dog> ugo, the configure output tells you what is missing
[03:01] <nalioths_dog> ugo, use synaptic to install the mssing things
[03:01] <ugo> and aptitude cant find it...
[03:01] <ugo> aptitude search aclocal-1.4
[03:01] <ugo> throws up nothing....
[03:01] <giovann> how can i know the password of my root ?
[03:02] <h4zn__> MY browser stoped working...why is this and how can i fix it?
[03:02] <nalioth> armor98926: go to prefs, look in the privacy tab at cookies
[03:02] <nalioth> !tell giovann about root
[03:02] <armor98926> their is not privacy tab
[03:02] <nalioth> armor98926: there is nothing marked "privacy"
[03:02] <armor98926> no nothing at all
[03:03] <nalioth> armor98926: what version of ff are you using?
[03:03] <ugo> for instance "aptitude search makeinfo" throws up nothing
[03:03] <nalioth> ugo: do you have all your repos enabled?
[03:03] <Xappe> armor98926: or check .mozilla/firefox in your home dir it should contain a file called cookies.txt
[03:03] <armor98926> ill try brb
[03:03] <Diffindo> I am officially convinced that I am too ignorant to use Linux....
[03:04] <ugo> AFAICT yeah they are all enabled
[03:05] <DewDude> wow
[03:05] <ugo> Diffindo: come on man....please...even my grandma uses ubuntu
[03:05] <DewDude> 5.10 is turning out quite nice
[03:05] <ugo> and she's 90 + 1
[03:05] <ugo> :-D
[03:05] <armor98926> Xappe: how do i get their
[03:05] <Diffindo> Well...
[03:06] <shinu> xD
[03:06] <ugo> really though whats the problem...i got a few mins...lemme donate to the company i love so much
[03:06] <Diffindo> I'm tired...I'm really agrivated and I need my WINDOWS!!!:'(
[03:06] <djm62> the elderly are still remember doing memory upgrades with torus magnets, wire, and a needle
[03:06] <ugo> bah...quit whining and learn how to use a decently cobbled together os...
[03:06] <lundner> whatfor do you need windows @diffindo?
[03:06] <Diffindo> Gaming
[03:07] <djm62> ugo: try "apt-cache search makeinfo"
[03:07] <lundner> which games?
[03:07] <Diffindo> Morrowind...
[03:07] <Diffindo> Doom 3
[03:07] <DansFloyd> hello! i have a question.... why is it not letting me write to the root folder?
[03:07] <Diffindo> CS:S
[03:07] <Diffindo> and some freeware
[03:07] <lundner> doom 3 runs natively on linux
[03:07] <Diffindo> Really?
[03:07] <lundner> an cs:s should be running with cedega
[03:07] <Diffindo> Neat
[03:07] <Diffindo> Cedaga
[03:08] <armor98926> yes it does
[03:08] <Diffindo> I have now idea how to build a CVS tree properly...
[03:08] <chavo> yes steam runs with cedega
[03:08] <DansFloyd> says i dont have access... but im the first and only user
[03:08] <Diffindo> no*
[03:08] <Diffindo> How well does Wine work?
[03:08] <djm62> DansFloyd: you need to use "sudo" before the command to do things with root privileges
[03:09] <djm62> DansFloyd: and type in your own password
[03:09] <Diffindo> Well, I need major help getting Java installed...
[03:09] <lundner> i guess the latest games won't work
[03:09] <Diffindo> Oh yay
[03:09] <lundner> @Diffindo : http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/doom ;-)
[03:09] <Diffindo> I got XMMS installed...
[03:10] <chavo> Diffindo, do you play enemy territory?
[03:10] <djm62> DansFloyd: you only need to be root to install and configure system-wide stuff...there's absolutely no advantage otherwise, in fact it's a liability
[03:10] <TokenBad> in kde how do you get to the file browser?
[03:10] <Diffindo> Well...
[03:10] <Diffindo> I don't have CS:S
[03:11] <Diffindo> Or Doom3
[03:11] <DansFloyd> so i cant just copy a file to the folder from the desktop... i have to use the terminal, or konsole
[03:11] <lundner> warcraft3 and Call of Duty are running really well under linux
[03:11] <Diffindo> And I want to get UT2004 soon...
[03:11] <Colossus> TokenBad: run konqueror
[03:11] <megh> whoa.
[03:11] <Colossus> TokenBad: and for the URI, type "/home/" or whatever.
[03:11] <chavo> ut2k4 has a linux native binary too.
[03:11] <lundner> ut 2004 also runs natively under linux :-P
[03:11] <djm62> DansFloyd: out of interest, what are you trying to do?
[03:11] <Diffindo> ok
[03:11] <Diffindo> does someone want to tell me how to fix this>
[03:11] <DansFloyd> install realplayer... it needs the downloaded file in my root folder
[03:11] <Diffindo> ?
[03:12] <Diffindo> andrew@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[03:12] <Diffindo> Reading package lists... Done
[03:12] <Diffindo> Building dependency tree... Done
[03:12] <Diffindo> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[03:12] <Diffindo> andrew@ubuntu:~$
[03:12] <Diffindo> >.>
[03:12] <nalioth> Diffindo: dont paste in here
[03:12] <nalioth> Diffindo: use #flood or a pastebin from the /topic
[03:12] <ugo> hey...whats the package name for the linux kernel-headers
[03:12] <Diffindo> Thanks for all you help...
[03:12] <Madpilot> Diffindo: do you have hoary-extras repo enabled? that's where the jre is...
[03:12] <Diffindo> Yes
[03:13] <djm62> DansFloyd: what page are you following instructions from?
[03:13] <chavo> ugo, linux-headers-x
[03:13] <consoleathletics> what games do you guys play
[03:13] <Diffindo> I went in and enabled ALL of the repos...
[03:13] <chavo> where x is kernel version
[03:13] <lundner> linux-headers @ugo
[03:13] <dylan_> why use windows over linux?  any reasons at all?
[03:13] <DansFloyd> http://ubuntuguide.org/#realplayer
[03:13] <Diffindo> Well....
[03:13] <dylan_> what will be included in Dapper Drake that will kill Vista?
[03:13] <Burgundavia> DansFloyd, please don
[03:13] <Madpilot> Diffindo: you have to add -extras specially - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto the bottom of that page
[03:14] <Burgundavia> DansFloyd, please don't recommend the ubuntuguide
[03:14] <Burgundavia> !ubuntuguide
[03:14] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[03:14] <Diffindo> Windows is more familiar... Granted, it isn't as secure or powerful... But more people know windows...
[03:14] <DansFloyd> sorry
[03:14] <dylan_> Diffindo, what will be in Dapper that will kill Vista?
[03:14] <dylan_> will Beagle and support for embedded videos in web pages be includeD?
[03:14] <dylan_> how about better fonts?
[03:15] <Burgundavia> dylan_, embeeded videos are already there (mostly)
[03:15] <Burgundavia> dylan_, beagle and network manager
[03:16] <dylan_> Burgundavia, how are embedded videos there?
[03:16] <ugo> yeah...thanks guys
[03:16] <Diffindo> dylan_ I don't know
[03:16] <dylan_> Burgundavia, is that the only additions that will be there? beagle and the network thing
[03:16] <Diffindo> But...
[03:16] <Diffindo> I think Google should make an OS...
[03:16] <Daemonic> how do I get nfs setup? I have portmap installed but seem to be missing the require rpc.<services>
[03:16] <Burgundavia> dylan_, no, the goals for dapper have not yet been speced out
[03:16] <dylan_> nah
[03:16] <Diffindo> Something that would kill everything else...
[03:16] <ugo> i do all my work as root....i enjoy the feeling of ultimate responsibility....
[03:16] <Madpilot> the Google OS - have google ads right on your desktop! yay! ... not.
[03:17] <dylan_> Burgundavia, why is M$ making all their stuff bloated? what makes it bloated?
[03:17] <bigy> I think... google linux
[03:17] <Diffindo> Madpilot... Er...
[03:17] <dylan_> googlix
[03:17] <ugo> besides worms are overrated
[03:17] <Diffindo> Oodle....
[03:17] <bigy> google office
[03:17] <Burgundavia> dylan_, this is #ubuntu, not #bash-MS, please keep it that way
[03:17] <Diffindo> Actaully...
[03:17] <ugo> heh heh
[03:17] <lundner> you are really brave ugo you should become racing-driver 8-)
[03:17] <bigy> google is god
[03:17] <dylan_> Burgundavia, no, i mean is it actually bloated?  sorry if bashing
[03:17] <Colossus> Does anyone know how to get initrd-2.6.13 from the new install disk?
[03:18] <Madpilot> dylan_: have you seen some of the projected hardware specs for Vista? They're scary reading...
[03:18] <ugo> nah....a crash dummy would be a better option
[03:18] <nalioth> dylan_: you are welcome to come to #ubuntu-offtopic and discuss anything you like
[03:18] <bigy> Colossus: grub
[03:18] <lundner> hehe
[03:18] <Diffindo> Okay...
[03:18] <dylan_> Burgundavia, thanks again
[03:19] <Diffindo> Where is the custom repo that will get me java?
[03:19] <Colossus> bigy: ... how?
[03:19] <cafuego_> !java
[03:19] <ubotu> [java]  to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[03:19] <nalioth> if you are not talking about ubuntu, you should go talk in #ubuntu-offtopic (now with flameproof fixtures)
[03:19] <ugo> vista is going to be hot...ure gonna need trusted fingernails to read the screen!
[03:19] <bigy> Colossus: $nano menu.lst
[03:19] <N17R0> Hi can someone help me with installing "Privoxy" please, I have compiled it from source, but I get a error: id: privoxy: No such user
[03:19] <bigy> Colossus: $man grub
[03:20] <Colossus> bigy: ... yeah, but I need to get the initrd file itself.
[03:20] <bigy> Colossus: but... be careful
[03:20] <bigy> Colossus: mkinitrd?
[03:20] <bigy> Colossus: oh... old old skills
[03:20] <Madpilot> Diffindo: hoary-extras, as I said earlier. See the bottom of AddingRepositories for all the info you need.
[03:21] <Colossus> bigy: Yeah, but it can't make the right kernel. I tried mkinitrd -o initrd-2.6.13-whatever 2.6.13, but it didn't work.
[03:21] <Diffindo> I added all of the hoary-extras, you clod
[03:21] <Diffindo> Did I not say that before?
[03:21] <Agrajag> that's a good way to get help
[03:21] <Agrajag> insulting people
[03:21] <Diffindo> I'm joking...
[03:22] <Colossus> IRC is not the best medium for sarcasm.
[03:22] <Diffindo> If i really wanted to insult someone, trust me, you would know....
[03:22] <bigy> Colossus: 2.6.13? ha ha try 2.6.12
[03:22] <Diffindo> ok...
[03:23] <Colossus> bigy: er ... I just built the kernel for 2.6.13. Do I need 2.6.12?
[03:23] <nalioth> Diffindo: be civil please
[03:23] <Colossus> (by "just", I mean about forty minutes ago.)
[03:23] <Madpilot> Diffindo: the j2re-<whatever> really is in hoary-extras, last I looked. just search in Synaptic for 'j2re', that should bring it up
[03:23] <Madpilot> Diffindo: and don't forget to hit Reload in Syn...
[03:24] <Diffindo> Look
[03:24] <Diffindo> I'm trying something else here...
[03:24] <bigy> Colossus: it takes 5 mins that rebuild a new kernel
[03:24] <snausages> guys, how can i add a 192kbps vbr rip setting to sound juicer?
[03:24] <delaney> When i log in it says   "ERROR FAILED TO INITIALIZE HAL"
[03:24] <snausages> i have this line: audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc vbr=4 vbr-quality=5
[03:24] <delaney> What does it mean.. and how can i fix it?
[03:25] <snausages> but i don't know how to make that come out to 192kbps/vbr
[03:25] <Diffindo> i have jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586.bin and I want to use that
[03:25] <bigy> Diffindo: hehe
[03:25] <Colossus> bigy: sure, but I did it a bit ago. Do I need to build 2.6.12?
[03:25] <Diffindo> I simply need a clue as to adding the multiverse repo
[03:25] <ram_> hi
[03:26] <ram_> i am new to ubuntu
[03:26] <nekohayo> am I the only one who can't load random images in xscreensaver? I just tested with only TWO pictures, and they display one time out of five
[03:26] <GH0|HP> Naolith - 88c0d18ee3dfee3fb2e2651c75044db3
[03:26] <ram_> how can i reduce the size of fonts
[03:26] <giovann> how to play with my mp3 ?
[03:26] <Madpilot> !tell giovann about mp3
[03:26] <bigy> Colossus: I don't know... because I don't use the ramdisk in 2.6.x
[03:27] <djm62> ram_: in what application?
[03:27] <gaidys> guys why are you using ubuntu
[03:27] <gaidys> isnt any better distros?
[03:27] <Diffindo> Ok
[03:27] <nalioth> GH0|HP: you should compare that number against whatever source you received it
[03:27] <bigy> Colossus: tmpfs is much better
[03:27] <Diffindo> I noticed two checkboxes in Synaptic...
[03:27] <nekohayo> gaidys, try it yourself.
[03:27] <GH0|HP> By how, I downloaded straight from the site.
[03:27] <ugo> nice one boys
[03:27] <nalioth> !tell giovann about restricted
[03:27] <Diffindo> There's nothing in here...
[03:27] <lundner> no there isn't a better distro ...i've tried many distros but this is the best @ gaudys :-D
[03:28] <ugo> i just did a reboot after a dist-upgrade
[03:28] <giovann> what ?
[03:28] <nalioth> GH0|HP: go to the d/l page and look for the md5 file onsite (should be where you got the link for the image)
[03:28] <ugo> i like the new bootsplash image
[03:28] <ram_> applications other than created using gtk like xmms k3b
[03:28] <ugo> now what we need is picture of kiss in the background....
[03:28] <ugo> for the kids
[03:29] <djm62> ram_: if you can run "kcontrol" from the terminal you can change the theme and font size for the "k....." applications
[03:29] <ram_> no i am using only gnome i have not installed kde
[03:30] <GH0|HP> Naolith - 88c0d18ee3dfee3fb2e2651c75044db3  ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso
[03:30] <nalioth> ram_: System > preferences > font
[03:30] <Diffindo> Allelujia!
[03:30] <Diffindo> I got it!
[03:30] <GH0|HP> Same md5
[03:30] <Diffindo> Yippee!
[03:30] <djm62> ram_: k3b is a kde app, so it follows kde themes, which makes it look funny in gnome
[03:30] <nalioth> GH0|HP: then try burning your iso at a slower speed
[03:30] <ram_> xmms menus
[03:31] <GH0|HP> Okay
[03:31] <lundner> is there a good alternative to k3b?! ...
[03:31] <terrel> hi what's up...
[03:31] <djm62> anyone remember the name of that gtk1 theme changer?
[03:31] <bigy> lundner: cdrecord
[03:31] <nalioth> lundner: not really but you can try gnomebaker or graveman
[03:31] <terrel> I want to mount a reiserfs system, how do i do it?
[03:31] <djm62> lundner: I like gnomebaker
[03:31] <giovann> how to share my folder ?
[03:32] <giovann> hwo to share my folder to another computer ?
[03:32] <nekohayo> lundner, there's nero for linux... and gnomebaker... I don't think gnomebaker is up to k3b yet
[03:32] <Foodcoman> How are people backing up Video DVD on Breezy? Wine/DVD shrink?
[03:32] <lundner> i'll try it :-)
[03:32] <lundner> i tried nero for linux ...it looks not very nice and it was not as good as k3b
[03:33] <nalioth> Foodcoman: there are linux native tools to work with dvd
[03:33] <bigy> lundner: so KISS the cdrecord
[03:33] <Foodcoman> Hook a brother up!   =)
[03:34] <glenn_> hello
[03:35] <nalioth> Foodcoman: do not msg me, please
[03:35] <glenn_> how to install sofware on ubuntu:
[03:35] <glenn_> how to install sofware on ubuntu?
[03:35] <lundner> gnomebaker looks like it is easy to use :-)
[03:35] <Foodcoman> nalioth:  Sorry
[03:35] <apokryphos> lundner: not as featureful as K3b though, unfortunatley.
[03:35] <nalioth> !tell glenn_ about synaptic
[03:35] <glenn_> how to install java?
[03:35] <nalioth> glenn_: ubotu is sending you some info
[03:35] <nalioth> !tell glenn_ about java
[03:36] <lundner> apokryphos, : yes but it sufficient for my needs :-)
[03:36] <ugo> !tell ugo about spandex
[03:36] <apokryphos> lundner: excellent, then. :)
[03:36] <Diffindo> How do I create a launcher for a terminal command?
[03:37] <ugo> !tell ugo about ugo
[03:37] <apokryphos> Diffindo: do you mean, how can I make an executable so that it would run form a command?
[03:37] <lundner> what does this !tell mean? ...is this a function here in this chat ...can somebody explain it to me :-)
[03:37] <ugo> damm...this bot is a dunce
[03:37] <apokryphos> Diffindo: place the executable (or a symbolic link to the executable) in ~/bin  (for your user), or /usr/bin (for global)
[03:38] <apokryphos> lundner: yup
[03:38] <Madpilot> !tell lundner about ubotu
[03:38] <ugo> !tell lunder about ubotu
[03:38] <apokryphos> lundner: the bot responds to the "!tell"
[03:38] <apokryphos> lundner: it has some built-in factoids (which anyone can add/edit), and you can use the tell command to provide information using him.
[03:39] <allen> i've installed wine in my machine. do I just run .exe files to install windows programs?
[03:39] <solidgroove> wine *.exe
[03:39] <allen> thanks
[03:39] <lundner> wow fascinating!! :-D
[03:39] <apokryphos> lundner: very handy, yes. :)
[03:39] <solidgroove> cedega finally works, I needed libpng3
[03:39] <Diffindo> well
[03:40] <makkk> lundner, how do you use it?
[03:40] <Madpilot> lundner: at least half of looking like you know what you're talking about here is knowing how to poke ubotu... ;)
[03:40] <glenn_> how can i play a sound on ubuntu
[03:40] <Diffindo> that was interesting
[03:40] <glenn_> how can i play a sound on ubuntu
[03:40] <allen> will i be able to try and test Yahoo Messenger now using wine?
[03:40] <allen> glenn
[03:40] <solidgroove> if Yahoo messenger is supported or if works
[03:40] <allen> ok gotcha
[03:40] <makkk> !tell makkk about ubotu
[03:40] <allen> where can I get cedega?
[03:40] <ugo> allen: have you tried gaim yet
[03:40] <allen> gaim? what's that?
[03:41] <lundner> Madpilot, loool
[03:41] <Diffindo> Could someone be a nice person and Email me a precompiled version of Cedega?
[03:41] <allen> ok got it
[03:41] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell allen about cedega
[03:41] <ugo> gaim's a chat client like yahoo messenger
[03:41] <Diffindo> I'm too scared to get the CVS tree and doink with that...
[03:41] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Diffindo about cedega
[03:41] <makkk> !tell me about add
[03:41] <mustafu> !tell me about cedega
[03:42] <Diffindo> lunder
[03:42] <allen> but can it connect to Yahoo's server?
[03:42] <nalioth> !msg the bot
[03:42] <Diffindo> thank you
[03:42] <ugo> but its been "arnied" up to support yahoo, msn, jabber, zephyer, gadu gadu...etc
[03:42] <apokryphos> makkk, mustafu: you can /msg the bot too
[03:42] <Diffindo> WTF...
[03:42] <allen> oh good
[03:42] <ugo> so you get the distinct advantage of all your buddies in one application
[03:42] <Diffindo> 15.7 kbps???
[03:42] <makkk> !tell me about cedega
[03:42] <rossa> hai
[03:42] <apokryphos> makkk: please /msg the bot when you wish to get some info from the bot.
[03:42] <ugo> you could also try trillian on windows....gives you the same effect....
[03:42] <Diffindo> I am NOT paying $21 per month for DSL for THAT!
[03:42] <makkk> !msg the bot
[03:43] <x[trick] x> i downloaded the kubuntu 386 iso then i burn it on a cd..  i cant install it on my computer :(
[03:43] <TokenBad> in kb3 is there a way to burn mp3's into a normal audio cd for playing in cd player that don't have mp3 support?
[03:43] <apokryphos> makkk: type /msg ubotu <factoid>
[03:43] <nalioth> x[trick] x: check your md5s on burnt disc and iso image
[03:43] <lundner> yeah sorry diffindo i have dsl too and my upload is not better :-S
[03:44] <x[trick] x> i've burnt it one iso already
[03:44] <Diffindo> wel
[03:44] <nalioth> x[trick] x: then check your iso image md5
[03:44] <lundner> Diffindo, my downstream is fortunatly higher (about 125 kb/s or 100kbit/s)
[03:44] <Diffindo> wit is better than my old dial-up
[03:44] <Diffindo> : )
[03:44] <Diffindo> no compliants...
[03:44] <flyingpenguin> Hello guys
[03:44] <flyingpenguin> whats up
[03:44] <x[trick] x> how could i check that?
[03:44] <lundner> ;-)
[03:45] <solidgroove> TokenBad, you can make audio cd's
[03:45] <x[trick] x> i burn it iso (Mode1)
[03:45] <Diffindo> 4 mins for a 7 MB file is quite quick as compared to my old stuff...
[03:46] <Diffindo> right
[03:46] <Diffindo> well
[03:46] <serfurj> does anybody know why my ncurses apps are all distorted and have accented "a" characters
[03:46] <Diffindo> I'm having issues with my soundcard
[03:46] <z3r0x> hi
[03:46] <nalioth> x[trick] x: open a terminal and type "man md5sum"
[03:46] <Diffindo> It is an AC'97 compliant Onboard audio
[03:46] <x[trick] x> nalioth im still using windows now
[03:46] <serfurj> it happens in aterm
[03:47] <Diffindo> I may get XP (the legal way) and start a dual-boot...
[03:47] <nalioth> x[trick] x: then search www.freewarehome.com for an md6 utility
[03:47] <lundner> what problem do you have diffindo?!
[03:47] <z3r0x> I have a problem with my sound device. All system sounds are working but I have no sound when I try to watch a movie or listen sound over xmms...does anybody know what the problem is?
[03:47] <Diffindo> I have no audio
[03:47] <nalioth> x[trick] x: an md5 utility, even
[03:47] <lundner> i have an AC'97 too
[03:47] <wapuru> hello
[03:48] <Diffindo> lunder: no sound at all
[03:48] <lundner> hmm do you have a newer(i can't remember the right englisch word) mainboard
[03:48] <ssdd65> what are good readings for glxgears?
[03:48] <Diffindo> kindaish
[03:48] <solidgroove> my fx5200 is 1600
[03:49] <Diffindo> lunder: it's a biostar p4vma-m v7.3 MB
[03:49] <h4zn__> how do i eject my cd?
[03:49] <nalioth> lundner: that is the correct englisch word  :)
[03:49] <lundner> cool
[03:49] <Diffindo> h4zn__ right click on the CD and select eject
[03:49] <h4zn__> the button doexs not work
[03:49] <sproingie> glxgears in breezy doesn't even show fps
[03:49] <sproingie> gl fireworks with a fps display would probably be a better benchmark anyway
[03:49] <ssdd65> i have a s3 savage 2000 and its readin there about 129fps :/
[03:49] <h4zn__> Diffindo, thanks
[03:50] <Diffindo> lunder
[03:50] <Diffindo> That DCC is down
[03:50] <Diffindo> done
[03:50] <nalioth> lundner: what lanuages do you think in?
[03:50] <Diffindo> How to I install
[03:50] <lundner> hmm ... i have no idea how i could help you diffindo ... maybe you use google
[03:50] <lundner> nalioth, german
[03:51] <nalioth> lundner: doch
[03:51] <lundner> ;-)
[03:51] <aynomus> HELP! i have ubuntu and winXP and i want to unistall ubuntu, how do i do that?
[03:51] <lundner> nalioth, you too?!
[03:51] <nalioth> aynomus: make some space
[03:51] <aynomus> space for what?
[03:52] <Joe41> hi guys - do you know when they are gonna publish ubuntu 5.10?
[03:52] <z3r0x>  I have a problem with my sound device. All system sounds are working but I have no sound when I try to watch a movie or listen sound over xmms...does anybody know what the problem is?
[03:52] <nalioth> lundner: i speak 4 languages somewhat
[03:52] <nalioth> Joe41: oct 13
[03:52] <fossa> hi
[03:52] <Joe41> ah great
[03:52] <Joe41> thx
[03:52] <lundner> nalioth, oh ha!! fluently?!
[03:52] <fossa> remind me how to update synaptic to the universe servers pls
[03:52] <Diffindo> aynomus, use a windows boot floppy, type fdisk and delete the NON-DOS partition
[03:52] <x[trick] x> nalioth im already checking my file with mat-md5
[03:52] <nalioth> lundner: join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:52] <aynomus> kk thanks
[03:52] <solidgroove> z3r0x, in console type alsamixer and if there are two MM select that and use M key
[03:53] <solidgroove> then alsactl store
[03:53] <nalioth> aynomus: hold that
[03:53] <lundner> z3r0x, you need to start the right sound-engine in the applications ;-)
[03:53] <nalioth> aynomus: what kind of box are you puttin ubuntu on
[03:53] <Joe41> will there be huge differences between the 5.10pre and the final? does anyone know?
[03:54] <nalioth> Joe41: not that big a deal, just polishing
[03:54] <sproingie> yay, got fglrx working 100% in breezy now
[03:54] <z3r0x> lundner, I didn't change anything yesterday it worked well
[03:54] <Joe41> i guess some bugs concerning stability, right?
[03:54] <nalioth> Joe41: correct, we are in the bug squashing period now
[03:55] <x[trick] x> nalioth just want ot clarify.. i've downloaded a 386iso kubuntu.. dont i have to uncopressed that file??
[03:55] <sproingie> x[trick] x: you burn it to a cd
[03:55] <nalioth> x[trick] x: no sir. burn it with your favorite cd burning tool
[03:55] <x[trick] x> i've burnt it alrady
[03:55] <sproingie> x[trick] x: then you boot from it
[03:55] <Agrajag> it's not compressed
[03:55] <x[trick] x> i burn it with nero already
[03:56] <sproingie> x[trick] x: stick it in your cdrom, reboot
[03:56] <Joe41> are u guys using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[03:56] <x[trick] x> i've already burnt it 2x the first time i uncompressed it
[03:56] <lundner> i use ubuntu breezy
[03:56] <Agrajag> how do you uncompress an iso?
[03:56] <Agrajag> it's not compressed.
[03:57] <x[trick] x> ok..
[03:57] <Diffindo> Does anyone know how to use a .deb file to install cedega?
[03:57] <ugo> @agrajag i think you would want to mount it using the loopback device
[03:57] <nalioth> Agrajag: you dont. you burn it with a cd burning program
[03:57] <Joe41> is besides the layout a real difference between gnome and kde??
[03:57] <Agrajag> wow guys
[03:57] <x[trick] x> i burn it to another cd.. uncompressed but still i dint run to my computer
[03:57] <ugo> then you could extract the files you need
[03:57] <z3r0x> @ solidgroove It didn't work...
[03:57] <Agrajag> I'm talking to x[trick] x.
[03:57] <Joe41> of course also besides structure..
[03:57] <nalioth> Joe41: i dont understand?
[03:57] <Agrajag> He said he uncompressed an iso.
[03:57] <solidgroove> Diffindo, dpkg -i cedega*.deb
[03:57] <lundner> Diffindo, dpkg -i cedega.deb
[03:57] <moparfan90> hello if i open a porgam in terminal how can i close the terminal with out closing the program?
[03:57] <Diffindo> YAYY!
[03:57] <Agrajag> x[trick] x: an iso image is ont compressed.
[03:57] <Diffindo> ty
[03:57] <solidgroove> z3r0x, did you unmute the master channel?
[03:58] <Agrajag> What did you do to it?
[03:58] <z3r0x> yes sure
[03:58] <Joe41> i mean is it just some people like gnome better, some not or is there also something about stability and so on
[03:58] <nalioth> x[trick] x: when you download the iso, you dont do anything with it except burn it straight to disk
[03:58] <sproingie> moparfan90: normally you should use the run command from the gui for that
[03:58] <solidgroove> z3r0x, then you need sound server running or the module for your sound card isnt loading with alsa
[03:58] <x[trick] x> i've dont it nalith
[03:58] <x[trick] x> nalioth
[03:58] <moparfan90> oo
[03:58] <moparfan90> ok
[03:58] <nickrud> moparfan90, you can use disown
[03:58] <nalioth> Joe41: you can use any WM you like on ubuntu
[03:58] <sproingie> moparfan90: otherwise you can background it and use the 'disown' command
[03:58] <x[trick] x> but still i didnt work
[03:58] <fossa> hi
[03:58] <pizzaiolo> hi
[03:58] <Agrajag> x[trick] x: after you burned the iso image, without "uncompressing" it, or whatever you did, what is on the disc?
[03:59] <Diffindo> Would someone repeat that command?
[03:59] <x[trick] x> when i restart my computer with the cd on my dirve it says system disk error :(
[03:59] <z3r0x> solidgroove, but the systemsounds are working (shutdown sound, login sound ...)
[03:59] <fossa> synaptic... how do i point it to the universe and world?
[03:59] <Diffindo> lunder?
[03:59] <Agrajag> If you look at it in windows explorer or some such
[03:59] <Diffindo> Could you repeat that?
[03:59] <sproingie> x[trick] x: you burnt yourself a coaster
[03:59] <Joe41> sure but i always used on debian either gnome or kde... i prefered kde... i just wanted to know if either one or an other is better - technically speaking
[03:59] <x[trick] x> i've burn the same file that i donwnloaded
[03:59] <solidgroove> z3r0x, what sounds aren't working?
[03:59] <Agrajag> x[trick] x: how did you burn it?
[03:59] <Ainvar> fossa go to www.ubuntuguid.org
[03:59] <sproingie> x[trick] x: did you verify the burn?
[03:59] <lundner> Joe41,  i had both kubuntu and ubuntu ... first i liked kubuntu more but after i while i recognized that ubuntu works more stable
[03:59] <x[trick] x> i used nero
[03:59] <Agrajag> If you put that CD in your computer right now, what files are on it?
[03:59] <djm62> Joe41: there's no clear difference between the two, try both, choose your favourite, or choose something completely different
[03:59] <Ainvar> you will see an area showing you a step by step guide on how to do add those
[03:59] <djm62> !ubuntuguide
[03:59] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[03:59] <fossa> ok
[03:59] <Agrajag> x[trick] x: used it how? What is on the disc right now?
[03:59] <z3r0x> watsch movies with vlc or listen to music with xmms
[04:00] <reiki> ubotu tell Ainvar about ubuntuguide
[04:00] <sproingie> x[trick] x: make sure you burn an _image_ and not a _data_ cd
[04:00] <Agrajag> $10 says the only thing on the disc is a .iso file
[04:00] <solidgroove> z3r0x, maybe a application setting
[04:00] <x[trick] x> ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386
[04:00] <Ainvar> ubotu I used it along with the forums to do what I needed to do
[04:00] <ubotu> Ainvar: Are you smoking crack?
[04:00] <Agrajag> yep.
[04:00] <sproingie> jeepers, how do you screw up nero
[04:00] <sproingie> Agrajag: wasnt gonna take that bet
[04:00] <Agrajag> x[trick] x: You burned it wrong.
[04:00] <x[trick] x> ngak!
[04:00] <Agrajag> x[trick] x: burn it as a disc image.
[04:00] <djm62> Ainvar: uBOTu is a bot
[04:00] <pizzaiolo> how do i use "update-menus" ? i installed many packages that put a configuration file in /usr/lib/menu but i cant make them appear
[04:01] <Ainvar> ubotu nope, I used it for refrence
[04:01] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Ainvar
[04:01] <kevogod> That was a great answer from ubotu.
[04:01] <Agrajag> That's what it is.
[04:01] <kevogod> Haha
[04:01] <Joe41> i see... i always had the roubles with my ipw2200 wireless... (k)ubuntu - they have been the only ones who installed the mod right at the beginning..
[04:01] <Ainvar> ahh
[04:01] <z3r0x> solidgroove, but it worked yesterday.... and I didn't change anything...(I already checked the settings)
[04:01] <Joe41> they also reallized the other pc's in the windows net and their names
[04:01] <x[trick] x> so what should be the filename after i burnt it right??>
[04:01] <fossa> i don't see it there
[04:01] <Joe41> amazing OS
[04:01] <Agrajag> x[trick] x: it would be an entire directory tree.
[04:01] <Agrajag> not just one file.
[04:02] <sproingie> x[trick] x: you should have a lot of filenames.  click the "burn image" button, not "burn data CD" button
[04:02] <fossa> ah! 'repositories'
[04:02] <Agrajag> just go to file > burn image...
[04:02] <Agrajag> and choose that file to burn
[04:02] <Joe41> currently i'm struggeling with my PDA and synce
[04:02] <allen> how do I run an app I installed through wine?
[04:02] <z3r0x> solidgroove, I have maybe 5 things that are MM on alsamixer...
[04:03] <x[trick] x> ok i have my nero open.. after i click the file... it has an option burn image,
[04:03] <x[trick] x> i'll used that one??
[04:03] <Agrajag> yes
[04:03] <don824chan> how do I get universe stuff into synapse again?
[04:03] <pizzaiolo> how do you make appear items from /usr/lib/menu in the gnome menu ?
[04:03] <don824chan> synaptic*
[04:03] <x[trick] x> ok.. thanks
[04:04] <solidgroove> z3r0x, thats weird sorry i cant help you anymore
[04:04] <z3r0x> ok thx
[04:04] <oogabooga> which is more secure:  osx or linux?
[04:04] <don824chan> anyone?  I just forgot how to add universe
[04:04] <solidgroove> don824chan, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:04] <solidgroove> i just did that
[04:04] <allen> how do I run an app I installed through wine?
[04:04] <don824chan> nvm
[04:04] <djm62> oogabooga: it's six and half-a-dozen
[04:05] <Diffindo> how do I install a .deb file?
[04:05] <fanskapet> anyone familiar in booting BeOS with GRUB?
[04:05] <djm62> allen: there's a .wine directory in your home dir.
[04:05] <oogabooga> djm62, what do you mean?
[04:05] <allen> ok thanks
[04:05] <pizzaiolo> so everybody install software and launch it using the command line or is there a way to make appear items from /usr/lib/menu in the gnome menu ?.. lol
[04:05] <nalioth> oogabooga: they are both unixes, and inherently secure
[04:05] <djm62> oogabooga: both of them are pretty secure, neither are absolutely secure, and the security level can change with time
[04:05] <oogabooga> nalioth, ah i see
[04:05] <hablandocontigo> Hello, I try to connect to my ubuntu nfs folder that is on a wire router along with my mac os x laptop but I get: "The server may not exist or it is not operational at this time. Check the server name or IP address and try again."
[04:05] <Agrajag> fanskapet: works the same as booting windows
[04:06] <sproingie> pizzaiolo: usually the installer puts it there.  otherwise you have to use a tool like smeg to edit the menu
[04:06] <reiki> osx is linux with.... TPM I think it's called... and apple is porting to intel architecture. OS 10.4.2 is with developers now for intel
[04:06] <lundner> allen,  type in the console wine *.exe
[04:06] <Agrajag> reiki: osx is not linux
[04:06] <Diffindo> How do I install a .deb file?
[04:06] <Agrajag> osx is mostly based on freebsd
[04:06] <fanskapet> Agrajag,  well i cannot boot it.. just gives me an error
[04:06] <nalioth> hablandocontigo: did you get the nfs manager from bresink.de?
[04:06] <reiki> Agrajag, it's based on linux...
[04:06] <kevogod> OS X is FreeBSD plus a microkernel.
[04:06] <nalioth> hablandocontigo: and configure your mac?
[04:06] <Agrajag> what gives you an error, grub for the be bootloader?
[04:06] <djm62> reiki: I think he meant secure against /other people/, not against him
[04:06] <Agrajag> s/for/or
[04:06] <Joe41> Diffino - use in console: "dpkg -i DEBFILE"
[04:06] <kevogod> reiki, No, it is not.
[04:06] <sproingie> osx is not "mostly based on freebsd"
[04:06] <reiki> djm62, ahh
[04:06] <kevogod> reiki, You are misinformed.
[04:06] <fanskapet> Agrajag, doesn't grub allow booting extended partitions?
[04:07] <hablandocontigo> nalioth yes, I tried navigating the manager but no servers appear at all
[04:07] <Agrajag> hell if I know, I never use them
[04:07] <reiki> kevogod, that's quite possible that I'm misinformed :)
[04:07] <Joe41> Diffindo - use in console: "dpkg -i DEBFILE"
[04:07] <kevogod> sproingie, I never claimed it was. But when explaining, it is easier to associate with FreeBSD type unix.
[04:07] <Agrajag> reiki: os x is not based on linux.
[04:07] <sproingie> it uses freebsd underneath to do a lot of things, but it's "mostly based" on nextstep at many levels, and completely original in others
[04:07] <sproingie> kevogod: it's easier, but it's pretty much wrong
[04:08] <lundner> Diffindo, dpkg -i cedega_4.4-2.i386.\(osloskop.net\).deb
[04:08] <lundner>  ;-P
[04:08] <war-totem> do gdesklets work in fluxbox?
[04:08] <fanskapet> Agrajag, something that it doesn't find the device
[04:08] <don824chan> I'm wondering
[04:08] <Ainvar> so so I have a question, is there anything as nice a kgpg for gnome and also from a windows to linus standpoint is there a newsgroup douwnloader similar to GrabIt?
[04:08] <nalioth> osx is evolved from openbsd 4.3, i believe, and the kernel of OSX is called darwin
[04:08] <sproingie> a bsd kernel personality on top of mach is not "based on freebsd".  there's no ports, no netgraph
[04:08] <don824chan> can I get my PCMCIA wireless adapter to work on this OS?
[04:08] <nalioth> Ainvar: try seahorse for gnome (or just stick with kgpg, it'll work in gnome)
[04:09] <Diffindo> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[04:09] <Ainvar> thanks nalioth!
[04:09] <Diffindo> someone wanna explain that?
[04:09] <Syco54645> hi when i updated to breezy the ability to open terminal from right clicking on the desktop on gnome is gone.  i was wondering if anyone knew how to get that back.  i am fairly new to gnome
[04:09] <lundner> Diffindo, you have to close synaptic
[04:09] <reiki> nalioth: maybe that's what I was fishing for in my old brain... that it's EVOLVED from a bsd variant....
[04:09] <djm62> don824chan: google the card name and ubuntu to see
[04:09] <don824chan> djm62 thx
[04:09] <reiki> but... I'm no expert on OSX, that's for sure
[04:09] <Diffindo> I'm updating...
[04:09] <fossa> how do i configure grub?
[04:09] <kevogod> nalioth, Actually, OS X is basically OpenStep or NeXTStep as sproingie said.
[04:09] <sproingie> i might run osx sometime, when the switch to x86 is done
[04:10] <nalioth> kevogod: yes, based on an evolved bsd
[04:10] <Colossus> I think that when the switch to x86 is done, it'll only run on Mac x86s, still.
[04:10] <pizzaiolo> sproingie: maybe i can add items manually with smeg but since there's a lot of menu items in /usr/lib/menu anybody would LOVE use something like update-menus instead...
[04:10] <kevogod> It should actually be called OpenStep X
[04:10] <kevogod> oh wait
[04:10] <lundner> Diffindo, then after you have finished your update you can try it again... it is not possible to make to install two things at the same time
[04:10] <djm62> don824chan: the chances are it /can/ work, and there are good odds that it will work
[04:10] <kevogod> It is!
[04:10] <Colossus> I'd love to be able to run OS X instead of XP.
[04:10] <sproingie> apple just killed their mac sales for the whole rest of the year and next with that switch.  guess they have ipods to fall back on
[04:10] <judari_> hello all. I'm trying to get my sb16 (ct4170) to work to no avail. I've check some of the forums and wiki as well and I'm still having no luck..
[04:10] <kevogod> OS X = OpenStep X
[04:10] <kevogod> hmmm
[04:10] <Syco54645> fossa: where ever your boot partition is, go there and there is a text file menu.lst  edit that with a text editor.  i am sure ubuntu has a gui editor for grub, i just dont know it
[04:11] <nalioth> this mac talk can go to #ubuntu-offtopic where i'm waiting to discuss it all with you
[04:11] <djm62> fossa: grubconf
[04:12] <djm62> is the gui editor for grub
[04:12] <Syco54645> no takers on my gnome question?
[04:12] <lyndon> when i was update my ubuntu it shown broken package and need to install "Synaptic" or "apt-get" how can i do that ?
[04:12] <fossa> ok, got it
[04:12] <ram_> hi
[04:12] <ilpavox> i have a problem where my wireless connection constantly goes down.  it seems there are lots of bugs in the version of ipw2200 bundled with ubuntu.  aparently v1.0 works.  has anyone upgraded it?  can i just compile etc or do i have to upgrade the kernel? thanks.
[04:13] <ram_> how can i upgrade gnome 2.10 to 2.12
[04:13] <nickrud> Syco54645, its in the package nautilus-open-terminal
[04:13] <Diffindo> lunder
[04:13] <Diffindo> lundner: I got some error msgs
[04:13] <Diffindo> and it didn't work...
[04:13] <Diffindo> : /
[04:14] <judari_> any suggestions for trying to get my soundcard to work. I modprobe snd-sb16, I set the Multimedia System Selector to OSS and nothing. I can hear the mp3 somewhat if I turn it up all the way ..
[04:14] <Syco54645> nickrud: thanks
[04:14] <lundner> Diffindo, when you tried to install cedega?!
[04:14] <Diffindo> yeah
[04:14] <Diffindo> here...
[04:14] <Diffindo> um...
[04:14] <Diffindo> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of cedega:
[04:14] <Diffindo>  cedega depends on libasound2 (>> 1.0.9); however:
[04:14] <Diffindo>   Version of libasound2 on system is 1.0.8-1.
[04:14] <Diffindo>  cedega depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21); however:
[04:14] <Diffindo>   Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13.
[04:15] <Diffindo> dpkg: error processing cedega (--install):
[04:15] <Diffindo>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:15] <Diffindo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[04:15] <Diffindo>  cedega
[04:15] <ram_> can any one help me
[04:15] <levander> ram_: just ask
[04:15] <Syco54645> ram_: depends on what you need
[04:15] <fossa> how do i update from hoary to breezy?
[04:15] <Diffindo> Y'know what...
[04:15] <nalioth> Diffindo: one more time pasting in here and you're gone
[04:15] <nalioth> Diffindo: use #flood or a pastebin
[04:16] <levander> fossa: if you don't know the answe rto that question, now's probably not a good time to upgrade
[04:16] <Diffindo> I was trying to paste something to lundner
[04:16] <Colossus> or http://rafb.net/paste
[04:16] <levander> fossa: last i heard breezy was still pretty unstable
[04:16] <nalioth> Diffindo: read the /topic   type /topic into your text entry box
[04:16] <ram_> ya i want to upgrade gnome 2.10 to 2.12
[04:16] <dhonn> how do i set up the x server
[04:16] <Diffindo> so get off my ass
[04:16] <Syco54645> levander: i am on breezy
[04:16] <fossa> nuts
[04:16] <djm62> ram_: if you wait a month, you can upgrade to breezy when it's released, and get 2.12 in a tested, easy-to-use state
[04:16] <dhonn> whats the command to set it up?
[04:16] <Syco54645> levander: and it is working fine for me
[04:16] <fossa> i just installed breezy on my work computer
[04:16] <nalioth> Diffindo: read the topic
[04:16] <levander> Syco54645: okay, maybe it's gotten better
[04:16] <nalioth> !tell Diffindo about conduct
[04:16] <Ainvar> breezy is a pretty stable for me
[04:16] <djm62> ram_: I recommend that, it's what I'm going to do
[04:17] <Ainvar> running on my dell 6000d with no problems
[04:17] <dhonn> what is the command to set up the xserver
[04:17] <ram_> ok
[04:17] <dhonn> i deleted my xorg.conf
[04:17] <dhonn> file
[04:17] <Joe41> uff bad idea ;)
[04:17] <levander> dhonn: dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-common (I think)
[04:17] <Syco54645> levander: besides just because someone asks how to upgrade doesnt mean they are not ready... it just means that they dont understand/know how debian based distros do stuff
[04:17] <dhonn> its xorg though?
[04:17] <judari_> syco: I thought you couldn't use ALSA with old ISA soundcards, I thought you had to use OSS?
[04:17] <Agrajag> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:17] <djm62> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:17] <Agrajag> I win!!! maybe
[04:17] <regeya> whoo
[04:17] <Syco54645> judari_: you are using an isa card
[04:18] <Syco54645> i didnt see that
[04:18] <Syco54645> sorry
[04:18] <regeya> isa!
[04:18] <lundner> with which command does glxgears show the fps?
[04:18] <Syco54645> my router doesnt even have an isa slot
[04:18] <Syco54645> lol
[04:18] <ubuntujunkie> do it from the command line
[04:18] <Joe41> Ainvar i'm using a dell inspiron 510m which runs almost stable
[04:18] <levander> Syco54645: I thought breezy was in a more unstable state than yall are telling me.  If he doesn't know how to upgrade, or can't at least easily look it up, using Breezy in as unstable a state as it was a month ago is a really bad idea.
[04:18] <djm62> lundner: run it from an xterm...it outputs to...
[04:18] <Foodcoman> Well done nalioth!
[04:19] <Syco54645> levander: well i came from gentoo and before that i came from mdk and before that redhat... back when redhat was 5.2 so i am not used to something working and people being afraid if it is unstable
[04:19] <Syco54645> ;)
[04:19] <dabar> hi.
[04:19] <dhonn> it says xserver package is not installed!!!!
[04:20] <Ainvar> Joe41 pretty solid too eh?
[04:20] <levander> Syco54645: It's not a matter of being afraid, it's just a matter of how much time are you going to spend.
[04:20] <lundner> djm62, he doesn't output anything instead of the animation :-/
[04:20] <sproingie> you'd best know a thing or two about X config files if you switch to breezy
[04:20] <ndazza> sproingie: like the changed font paths? ;)
[04:20] <don824chan> im confused
[04:20] <djm62> lundner: how are you launching it?
[04:20] <Joe41> yeah pretty solid... every now and then kicker hangs up and stuff like that
[04:20] <levander> sproingie: They have a guide on what you need to know?
[04:20] <don824chan> What is my "current working directory?"
[04:20] <sproingie> ndazza: yep that was a killer.  also the int10 extension interferes fatally with fglrx
[04:21] <levander> sproingie: Or will by the time they realease breezy?
[04:21] <lundner> djm62, i type "glxgears" in the console
[04:21] <djm62> don824chan: if you type "pwd" that will tell you
[04:21] <sproingie> ndazza: things like that.  small changes, but the system's practically dead til they're made
[04:21] <ndazza> sproingie: lucky i never got fglrx working properly :)
[04:21] <don824chan> damn
[04:21] <don824chan> thanks
[04:21] <dabar> don824chan: it is the directory you are in, through a terminal shelll.
[04:21] <Ainvar> have not had a hangup as of yet, and the latest fglrx and restricted kernel modules made my ati x300 card do even better in breezy
[04:21] <fossa> i don't supose i can downgrade to horay
[04:21] <sproingie> ndazza: i just did about an hour ago
[04:21] <Syco54645> levander: i always thought people that used linux did so because they knew something about computers... but ubuntu's approach seems to be something different, like making linux easy for the masses, and that is nice
[04:21] <djm62> lundner: it should be outputting every 5 seconds with an average FPS
[04:22] <sproingie> glxgears in breezy does not print fps
[04:22] <lundner> djm62, in my case not ... hmm strange
[04:22] <levander> Syco54645: exactly, i'm productive with my computer, i don't just sit around configuring it all day
[04:22] <don824chan> akk
[04:22] <dabar> fossa: not in any easy simple, 1-2-3 way, no.
[04:22] <don824chan> k I found it
[04:22] <levander> Syco54645: easy to use is not just a feature for the masses
[04:22] <don824chan> I just don't know how to install the appropriate package
[04:22] <dabar> dhonn: and you are trying to do what?
[04:22] <lundner> sproingie, aha! do you know a way how to do it eather?
[04:22] <ndazza> Syco54645: many distros are aimed at ease of use these days - particularly specialist distros like SMEServer and Smoothwall - they make server tasks a no-brainer
[04:22] <don824chan> they told me just to say "make"
[04:22] <Syco54645> levander: i didnt sit around configging any of my boxes all day
[04:22] <dhonn> xorg wont start
[04:22] <don824chan> but my terminal doesn't seem to like that
[04:22] <Syco54645> ndazza: dont forget about ipcop ;)
[04:22] <sproingie> lundner: recompile glxgears.  it's a pretty trivial program
[04:22] <dabar> dhonn: You see, you would like help, right?
[04:22] <ndazza> Syco54645: meh same thing :)
[04:23] <Joe41> Ainvar i'm anoyed of struggeling with synce for my pda
[04:23] <levander> Syco54645: I can fix and find bugs in Ubuntu, and figure out how to get things to work that don't right off, but with Ubuntu, I'm very glad I don't have to.
[04:23] <dhonn> yeah
[04:23] <djm62> don824chan: what sort of error messages are you getting?
[04:23] <Syco54645> levander: i dunno i always thought linux wasnt too hard to use.
[04:23] <levander> Syco54645: at least not often
[04:23] <don824chan> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[04:23] <don824chan> Thats it
[04:23] <levander> Syco54645: depends on what you mean by hard to use.
[04:23] <dabar> dhonn: well, how can I know anything about how to help you, and I read dhonn: it says xserver package is not installed!!!! and dhonn: xorg wont start so far?
[04:23] <fossa> seriously, should i remove breezy and install hoary before i get more vested in it?
[04:23] <don824chan> i'm following the directions on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[04:23] <Joe41> welkll don you might have to run ./configure
[04:23] <dabar> Tell about your graphics card, about your system, and so on.
[04:24] <dabar> fossa: seriously, what is wrong with your breezy?
[04:24] <dhonn> xserver-xorg is already the newest version.
[04:24] <sproingie> glxgears is such a trivial program that it tests virtually nothing of interest
[04:24] <dhonn> i tried to install it
[04:24] <jknife> how many people are upgrading or installing somethin from the default servers?
[04:24] <dhonn> but its aready installed
[04:24] <djm62> don824chan: what errors are you getting?
[04:24] <fossa> nothing ; but it's my work com pand i can't afford for it to be unstable
[04:24] <dhonn>  i tried to reconfigure it but its not installed it says
[04:24] <dabar> dhonn: ok, sounds good, and what is not working?
[04:24] <don824chan> uh
[04:24] <dabar> dhonn: how did you type this?
[04:24] <djm62> don824chan: oh, damn, never mind
[04:24] <don824chan> yeah I thought I said
[04:24] <dhonn> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:24] <dabar> fossa back up files, or something.
[04:24] <don824chan> so what do I do
[04:25] <dabar> dhonn: as sudo? have output on a pastebin?
[04:25] <dhonn> sudo
[04:25] <sproingie> you installed breezy on a machine you can't afford to have unstable?  oy.
[04:25] <Syco54645> levander: i think anything with a package system is easy to use. except for gentoo, and mdk and redhat.  rpms sucked.  i hear the new one is ok.  mdk once had so much of my libc messed up that i went to gentoo
[04:25] <Syco54645> gentoo then decided that portage would stagnate so i left and came here
[04:26] <dhonn> im on the phone helping someone get there xorg back up
[04:26] <djm62> don824chan: can you type "pwd" and tell me what directory you're in?
[04:26] <lundner> sproingie, i guess you are right ..it shows something about 15000 in windowed mode  :-P
[04:26] <sproingie> package system is nothing without good repository discipline
[04:26] <don824chan> /home/eric
[04:26] <sproingie> a lot of the rpm systems lack that discipline, so people have to mix repos
[04:26] <don824chan> which is where the driver is
[04:26] <dabar> dhonn: back up?
[04:26] <ubuntujunkie> does anyone know how to edit the App menu's in Hoary?
[04:27] <fossa> do i need a network connection to install hoary?
[04:27] <Syco54645> sproingie: is there a bleeding edge repos for ubuntu?
[04:27] <nalioth> !tell ubuntujunkie about smeg
[04:27] <dhonn> no
[04:27] <djm62> don824chan: you need to type cd rt25[TAB] 
[04:27] <sproingie> Syco54645: if you're crafty, you can grab individual ports from the bleeding edge distro
[04:27] <dabar> dhonn: sorry, I can not sit here trying to pull this out of you like teeth.
[04:27] <djm62> don824chan: and then cd Module
[04:27] <don824chan> bash: cd: rt2500-1.1.0-b3.tar.gz: Not a directory
[04:28] <dhonn> why does upgrading to the breezy so hard
[04:28] <dhonn> xorg fails every time
[04:28] <sproingie> Syco54645: ubuntu doesn't have a perpetually bleeding edge branch like debian experimental though
[04:28] <Ainvar> does beepplayer not music from a network share that you have browsed to through gnome?
[04:28] <don824chan> but its there
[04:28] <Syco54645> sproingie: they are not bleeding enough.
[04:28] <dabar> you likely have some weird repo enabled. dhonn.
[04:28] <jknife> dhonn, what is the Xorg output?
[04:28] <sproingie> Syco54645: welcome to debian
[04:28] <jknife> /var/log/xorg.0.log(i think)
[04:29] <dhonn> this isnt the first time this happens to all my systems
[04:29] <djm62> don824chan: if you type "ls" can you see the rt2500-<something> directory?
[04:29] <Syco54645> sproingie: thanks... ill be here till my 80 gig thinks its a 90 gig when the partition table gets corrupt, then ill move on.  maybe to slackware and i will become a 1337 hax0r
[04:29] <don824chan> Desktop  rt2500-1.1.0-b3.tar.gz
[04:29] <Syco54645> ;)
[04:29] <sproingie> Syco54645: if you want the bleeding edge, it really isn't hard to compile from source.  if you want that for every single app, then you want gentoo
[04:29] <don824chan> its saying that its not a directory
[04:29] <don824chan> which is true i guess
[04:30] <djm62> don824chan: you haven't unpacked that file yet... you need to type "tar -xzvf rt2500*"
[04:30] <Syco54645> sproingie: well it doesnt have to be that bleeding... but i would like to see the new mozilla firefox in breezy instead of one from a few versions back
[04:30] <don824chan> i said that lready
[04:30] <don824chan> but w/e
[04:30] <Syco54645> and gentoo takes way too long to update
[04:30] <ubuntujunkie> Note KDE takes 3 days to compile (average) under gentoo
[04:30] <Syco54645> ubuntujunkie: what system are you on???
[04:30] <djm62> don824chan: what happens when you type that? any output at all?
[04:30] <Syco54645> it went in a day on my 2ghz
[04:30] <sproingie> Syco54645: ye gads, tell me about it.  that's what backports is for, but firefox never seems to make it into there
[04:30] <Syco54645> with the new xorg
[04:30] <don824chan> djm62 yes it gives an error
[04:31] <djm62> don824chan: ah! what error?
[04:31] <Syco54645> sproingie: what exactly is back ports?
[04:31] <ubuntujunkie> Syco53645: 900 Celeron
[04:31] <Vespoli> w0000000t :D
[04:31] <don824chan> i don't want to flood
[04:31] <lundner> does somebody know how i get the irc-desklet work under gdesklets?!?
[04:31] <Vespoli> ubunto works perfectly :D
[04:31] <Vespoli> however --- I can't run anything as root!!!!!
[04:31] <Vespoli> :'(
[04:31] <dabar> note the name, Vespoli, ubuntu.
[04:31] <Syco54645> ubuntujunkie: well that is why then... i dont think it is fair to say that is an average when you cant even buy a machine that is under 1 ghz any more
[04:31] <djm62> don824chan: did that file download properly?
[04:31] <Vespoli> please help!
[04:31] <cafuego_> duh, stupid gnomemeeting
[04:31] <sproingie> Syco54645: ports newer versions of apps to older distributions like hoary or warty
[04:31] <don824chan> I believe so
[04:32] <djm62> don824chan: I'll go to #flood, where you can paste it
[04:32] <lundner> Vespoli, you maybe have to type in sudo passwd and set a password for your root-account
[04:32] <Syco54645> sproingie: ah ok.  isnt it also possible to make your own repos?
[04:32] <Vespoli> lundner, no
[04:32] <sproingie> Syco54645: I don't think firefox is in there tho.  in fact i don't think official backports will upgrade existing packages, only offer new ones
[04:32] <Vespoli> ty dabar :D
[04:32] <lundner> Vespoli, what than?!
[04:32] <sproingie> Syco54645: there's always third party repos ... you takes your chances with those tho
[04:33] <cafuego_> the iSight works fine with coriander, but gm is retarded
[04:33] <Syco54645> sproingie: i can compile by hand.  i used to for year, i am just getting lazy what with school and crap
[04:33] <ghost__> how do i start pcmcia it keeps on telling me that pcmcia is not pressent
[04:33] <djm62> don824chan: ah... you'd need to either type "tar -xzvf" followed by the full filename, or type the first few characters and then press [tab] 
[04:33] <sproingie> Syco54645: yah, i've gotten pretty lazy too
[04:33] <don824chan> ahah
[04:34] <Syco54645> sproingie: that is why i went back to a package based rather than a source based distro
[04:34] <don824chan> ok...
[04:34] <don824chan> now what
[04:34] <ubuntujunkie> Syco: ditto
[04:34] <djm62> then you can cd to the directory that has been created
[04:34] <sproingie> Syco54645: debian is definitely not going to give you bleeding edge for the most part
[04:34] <don824chan> yeah
[04:35] <don824chan> then it tells me to make
[04:35] <djm62> don824chan: and cd Module
[04:35] <don824chan> but then it just give me the same error
[04:35] <don824chan> ah
[04:35] <don824chan> i really should buy one of those Linux for Dummies books
[04:35] <djm62> don824chan: and when pwd shows you in the Module subdirectory, you should be good to go
[04:35] <Syco54645> sproingie: well that is fine, there is always the ./configure && make && make install
[04:36] <djm62> don824chan: it's a steep learning curve at the beginning...after a while you start to say "obviously!" and annoy newbies
[04:36] <ugo> @don824chan to slap ur head with right?
[04:36] <ghost__> ??
[04:36] <ugo> lol :-D
[04:36] <ubuntujunkie> sproingie: debian unstable is pretty bleeding edge
[04:36] <sproingie> Syco54645: you could also install a shadow root or even chroot a whole different distro to host bleeding edge stuff on the same machine
[04:36] <don824chan> k now it says I'm done but...
[04:37] <Syco54645> sproingie: too much effort
[04:37] <don824chan> my card doesn't look like its doing anythign
[04:37] <sproingie> ubuntujunkie: not if you program in lisp or scheme.  sbcl is years old
[04:37] <Vespoli> -_-
[04:37] <ghost__> am i missing a kernel model
[04:37] <ghost__> ??
[04:37] <don824chan> nvm
[04:37] <don824chan> i think i get it
[04:37] <Syco54645> oh well time to restart x
[04:37] <JxpX> ??
[04:37] <Syco54645> see if this works
[04:38] <sproingie> Syco54645: i have a redhat box at work that i put openpkg on, created a whole shadow filesystem.  wasn't that hard to do
[04:38] <djm62> don824chan: the instructions look pretty good (unfortunately I don't have the card or I'd be checking them myself)
[04:38] <don824chan> well this is a PCMCIA card
[04:38] <don824chan> i don't know if thats going to be any different
[04:39] <don824chan> but I don't see it in my network settings like it says I should
[04:39] <sproingie> i wish conference mode in an irc client showed joins and quits of people you recently talked to
[04:39] <co_Racinx> hello
[04:39] <don824chan> Do I need RaConfig?
[04:39] <solidgroove> setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[04:39] <solidgroove>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[04:39] <solidgroove>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[04:39] <djm62> don824chan: do you need WPA? or just WEP/unencrypted?
[04:39] <solidgroove> i tried using hdparm
[04:39] <don824chan> no clue
[04:39] <djm62> don824chan: as in, do you use a network that requires WPA?
[04:40] <solidgroove> for /dev/cdrom
[04:40] <don824chan> but I can't get my card to work regardless
[04:40] <don824chan> no
[04:40] <don824chan> i don't requrie WPA
[04:40] <don824chan> and if I could spell
[04:40] <djm62> don824chan: what happened when you did "sudo insmod rt2500.ko"?
[04:40] <don824chan> i didn't
[04:40] <don824chan> :O
[04:41] <dabar> solidgroove: you need to use it for, for example, /dev/hdc
[04:41] <djm62> don824chan: seriously, slow down a bit and follow the instructions...treat it like Ikea
[04:41] <don824chan> wait
[04:41] <don824chan> yes i did
[04:41] <don824chan> ><
[04:41] <don824chan> it asked for my password
[04:41] <don824chan> then nothinghappened
[04:42] <don824chan> maybe I typed the password wrong
[04:42] <djm62> don824chan: nothing is good, in this context.  if something had gone wrong it would have said something
[04:42] <don824chan> ok
[04:43] <Angel-SL> do you get your command prompt back?
[04:43] <sproingie> my fglrx is a bit of mysterious action at a distance ... i couldn't find it anywhere, but it just mysteriously appeared for me when i switched my xorg.conf to use it
[04:43] <sproingie> now it appears in /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-amd64-k8/volatile/fglrx.ko
[04:44] <sproingie> who knows how it gets there ...
[04:44] <don824chan> djm62: Either way, my network card doesn't appear to be working
[04:44] <ghost__> is it pcmcia
[04:44] <don824chan> ohj wait
[04:44] <ghost__> cause i cant iven load the pcmcia init scrip
[04:45] <don824chan> no my network card doesn't appear in my Network Settings, and it says in the Wiki that it should
[04:45] <sproingie> just curious, there any third party efforts for xerox printer drivers?
[04:46] <Ice9> how can I change the permission of a folder? It currently belongs to root and I'd like to make my user be the owner
[04:46] <sproingie> chown user folder
[04:46] <lucasd> i'm with no sound on my ubuntu linux.. i set the volume, and nothing.. can somebody help me?
[04:46] <sproingie> 'course that just does the folder
[04:46] <sproingie> you probably want chown -R user folder
[04:47] <djm62> don824chan: if you type "iwconfig" at the terminal, do you get no wireless extensions on anything?
[04:47] <don824chan> none
[04:48] <heartEye> I want to get a general idea of where the bulk of the data on my hard drive is.  what program could I use?
[04:48] <robotgeek> heartEye: ypu can try filelight, very nice
[04:49] <heartEye> grazie rob
[04:50] <heartEye> grazie robotgeek
[04:50] <robotgeek> heartEye: no probs
[04:50] <djm62> don824chan: can you install the driver fully, according to the "Installing" section of the page? (underneath And What If I Don't Need RaConfig)
[04:50] <djm62> don824chan: then do "sudo rmmod rt2500" and "sudo insmod rt2500"
[04:51] <x[trick] x> just want to ask.. if there's a way i can use the same partition on my hdd when i was still using windows
[04:51] <heartEye> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/f/filelight/filelight_0.6.4.1-1_i386.deb  Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'
[04:51] <don824chan> ill try
[04:51] <h08817> i have having a problem with my internet connection
[04:51] <h08817> i can't connect
[04:51] <h08817> when i start up ubuntu it just hangs on loadndisdriver
[04:51] <h08817> b/c my connection is gone i guess or the usb is fried
[04:51] <sportman> so how do i determine my kernel?
[04:52] <djm62> don824chan: actually, instead of "sudo insmod rt2500" do "sudo modprobe rt2500"
[04:52] <luckyaba> is it worth it to invest in a dual core processor yet?
[04:52] <april> hi
[04:52] <Nooblar> sportman, try uname -r
[04:52] <x[trick] x> just want to ask.. if there's a way i can use the same partition on my hdd when i was still using windows
[04:52] <april> hi
[04:52] <april> ljhj
[04:52] <april> kh
[04:52] <dabar> hi already
[04:52] <luckyaba> april hi
[04:52] <april> helo
[04:52] <dabar> we saw your first hi.
[04:52] <april> yah
[04:53] <april> tnx for reply
[04:53] <april> from where r u?
[04:53] <djm62> x[trick] x: no need to repeat.  do you want do get rid of windows and use the space, or edit files on your windows partition?
[04:53] <djm62> :)
[04:53] <nalioth> april: you may join #ubuntu-offtopic and ask all of us where we are from. #ubuntu is a help channel
[04:53] <x[trick] x> i want to getrid of the windows
[04:53] <april> ok
[04:54] <djm62> x[trick] x: do you have ubuntu installed already?
[04:54] <x[trick] x> i have a 80gig hdd partitioned into 2 drives
[04:54] <dabar> h08817: and, what, I should guess what type of network you use, what type of network card you have, and so on?
[04:54] <durt> what's the command i can use to make my file managers open a document in abiword?
[04:54] <x[trick] x> i have lots of mp3 on my secondary drive and i want to save it
[04:54] <h08817> dabar, i have a linksys network and i use a netgear usb
[04:54] <dabar> durt, its in the properties when you right click, in the open with tab.
[04:54] <djm62> x[trick] x: yes you can do that
[04:54] <dabar> linksys network meaning a router, and a netgear usb wireless network card?
[04:54] <x[trick] x> my master drive is 5gig and from there i plan to install the ubuntu
[04:55] <sportman> um lets see
[04:55] <x[trick] x> im just starting to install ubuntu on my pc
[04:55] <sportman> im installing vmware
[04:55] <h08817> dabar, yes
[04:55] <don824chan> k djm62 i did everything you said
[04:55] <BlueEagle> x[trick] x: 5 gigs is more than enough to install ubuntu on.
[04:55] <sportman> it is asking me What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[04:55] <BlueEagle> x[trick] x: hoary or breezy?
[04:55] <djm62> don824chan: and do you get anything when you type "iwconfig" now?
[04:55] <sportman> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[04:55] <h08817> dabar, not sure why it doesn't work i haven't used my comp in 2 weeks
[04:55] <durt> dabar, well i cant do that in xsmbrowser, so i was wondering what the arguments to "abiword" should be
[04:55] <dabar> h08817: I cant help. I dont use that.
[04:55] <don824chan> still no
[04:55] <sportman> what do i do?
[04:55] <sportman> ...
[04:55] <sportman> i just got gcc 3.4
[04:55] <h08817> dabar, of course no one does
[04:55] <djm62> !rt2500
[04:56] <ubotu> djm62: Are you smoking crack?
[04:56] <sportman> and instaleed system headersr
[04:56] <djm62> damn, ubotu can smell it
[04:56] <Ainvar> I forgot to backup my esd.conf, is there anyway to get the default back without having to reinstall?
[04:56] <x[trick] x> so what will i do by the time i go to the partition options?
[04:56] <don824chan> I have lo eth0 and sit0
[04:56] <x[trick] x> what do youi mean sir?? im just new in linux :(<BlueEagle> x[trick] x: hoary or breezy?
[04:56] <sportman> hmm
[04:56] <dabar> durt: what arguments?
[04:56] <sportman> n e one want to help me out?
[04:56] <sportman> with installing vmware
[04:56] <djm62> don824chan: and your card is plugged in? nothing obvious wrong?
[04:57] <nalioth> djm62: is this what you are after? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[04:57] <BlueEagle> x[trick] x: Ubuntu has got names for their versions. 5.04 is hoary hedgehog while 5.10 is breezy badger
[04:57] <sportman> its asking me for the location of the directory of C header files that match my running kernel
[04:57] <don824chan> yeah its plugged in
[04:57] <x[trick] x> im using 5.10
[04:57] <sportman> any help would be greatly appreciated
[04:57] <Nooblar> sportman, the best is to check out VMWare's forums...you'll get help from vmware tech guys there
[04:57] <digitize> you know, /join #amarok
[04:57] <digitize> err
[04:57] <BlueEagle> x[trick] x: That would be breezy.
[04:57] <digitize> sorry
[04:57] <durt> dabar, if i set something to open with the "abiword" command, it doesnt open it
[04:57] <sportman> meh, but this is a ubuntu specific problem
[04:57] <dabar> x[trick] x: ya, you can get the files off the "windows" formatted drive with mp3s. /msg ubotu ntfs
[04:57] <sportman> lol
[04:57] <djm62> nalioth: that's what he was using, I'm trying to see if there are any gotchas
[04:57] <sportman> but w.e.
[04:57] <sportman> ;)
[04:58] <nalioth> djm62: lead on, mcduff
[04:58] <BlueEagle> x[trick] x: Be aware that if you install with norwegian locale you _might_ run into some config trouble with X. Either that or it was me who messed up when transferring my dualscreen config.
[04:58] <djm62> don824chan: what card do you actually have?
[04:58] <dabar> durt, go into a terminal, and try abi<tab><
[04:58] <Nooblar> sportman, what message u getting when u try to compile it?
[04:59] <don824chan> uh
[04:59] <april> helo
[04:59] <don824chan> Belkin 54G
[04:59] <dabar> I dont know what you do, and doesnt open it is ambiguous, what, it opens abiword but no file?
[04:59] <sportman> i cant get any further
[04:59] <don824chan> F5D7010
[04:59] <x[trick] x> my drive is partitioned in fat32 will that be ok with linux?
[04:59] <Ainvar> so is there a way for me to redo my esd.conf file back to default without reinstall breezy?
[04:59] <sportman> it just asks me that one question
[04:59] <sportman> then w.e.
[04:59] <sportman> h.o.
[05:00] <moparfan90> hello everyone
[05:00] <sportman> how bout someone help me install java
[05:00] <dabar> x[trick] x: yes, even better, it can be written to by linux.
[05:00] <april> hloo
[05:00] <cef> so is xorg 6.8.2-67 any good?
[05:00] <sportman> ubotu tell sportman about java
[05:00] <april> too all of u
[05:00] <dabar> april: do you have a question?
[05:00] <april> nope
[05:00] <april> y?
[05:00] <april> n u?
[05:00] <dabar> we said hi already.
[05:00] <dabar> What would you like?
[05:00] <x[trick] x> i have a hard time installing it ;(
[05:00] <kasper_> has anyone successfully installed java onto mozilla??
[05:00] <x[trick] x> huhuu
[05:00] <april> nothing
[05:00] <dabar> ok, good.
[05:00] <h08817> !java
[05:00] <ubotu> java is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:01] <kasper_> TY MUCH!!
[05:01] <moparfan90> !java
[05:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:02] <april> hi
[05:02] <cef> is java 1.5 available for breezy at all? that only says 1.4
[05:02] <djm62> don824chan: it looks like people are using ndiswrapper to get that card working
[05:02] <Ainvar> cef just make your own java deb package
[05:02] <Ainvar> I have the steps if you want it
[05:02] <ADRnLn> Hi, I am wondering if anyone has been able to get the trackpad working on breezy with a G4 PowerBook?
[05:03] <Ainvar> found them on the forums yesterday
[05:03] <nalioth> april: this is not a chat channel. this is a help channel.
[05:03] <cef> Ainvar: cool... I unfortunately need 1.5 for work
[05:03] <don824chan> djm62: What does that mean for me
[05:03] <oogabooga> i have a 52x cd reader .... how can i get it to write to the hard disk at a rate faster than 3.8x? i have dma enabled.  it is drive /dev/hdd
[05:04] <benz190ryda> hello folks
[05:04] <durt> dabar: thanks, it works now, the command was "abiword $FILE"
[05:04] <Ainvar> cef you have msg
[05:04] <dabar> durt: makes sense. good work.
[05:04] <Diffindo> hello?
[05:04] <Diffindo> I have cedega installed now... Is there anything esle I need to do?
[05:05] <mik3> hi, anyone care to attempt to help me solve this problem when I try to start NVU: Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting.
[05:05] <dabar> Diffindo: ya, go get me a sub at subway. jj, You need to do what you want to do.
[05:05] <mik3> wake up cletus
[05:06] <nalioth> mik3: be civil, please
[05:06] <mik3> =/
[05:06] <theblue_> Hi all.
[05:06] <djm62> don824chan: it means that for some reason the rt2500 driver isn't happy on your card (it's still under development), but you can use ndiswrapper to make it work.  it's a different driver
[05:06] <dabar> hi back.
[05:06] <don824chan> ohk...
[05:06] <mik3> nalioth want to help?
[05:06] <Ainvar> can anyone assist me in this quest to fix my sound that I messed up by not backing up my esd.conf file? I just need a way to either recreate with default values or a copy of one from breezy. Is this at all possible?
[05:06] <dabar> mik3: do you want to help?
[05:06] <oogabooga> i have a 52x cd reader .... how can i get it to write to the hard disk at a rate faster than 3.8x? i have dma enabled.  it is drive /dev/hdd
[05:07] <nalioth> mik3: do you have all the mozilla things installed?
[05:07] <mik3> dabar: i help in here very often, thanks
[05:07] <Diffindo> dabar: So, If I stick my Morrowind CD in, it will work?
[05:07] <mik3> nalioth: i installed what i thought was mozilla suite, i downloaded some installation script from mozilla.com, it seemed like it installed everything
[05:07] <djm62> don824chan: unfortunately, it's 4am here in the UK, and I need to sleep.  if you google belkin ubuntu ndiswrapper 54g you should get some useful pages
[05:07] <nalioth> mik3: ewww, no.
[05:07] <ubuntujunkie> oogabooga: have you looked at hdparm?
[05:07] <mik3> crap
[05:07] <dabar> Diffindo: I dont know.
[05:08] <nalioth> mik3: you need to use synaptic/aptitude/apt
[05:08] <dabar> mik3: then tell us more, did this ever work, what did you change for it not to work...
[05:08] <don824chan> thanks
[05:08] <djm62> and stay in here for help, but probably not from me...
[05:08] <don824chan> i think I'm gonna get sleep too
[05:08] <Toba|BSD> I'm having a slight problem
[05:08] <oogabooga> ubuntujunkie, yes
[05:08] <mik3>  Ignoring ALL messages from dabar!*@*
[05:08] <mik3> anyways
[05:08] <Toba|BSD> I have a somewhat old version of all the packages
[05:08] <MarcN> breezy's Xorg server pretty sick lately?  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg dies at the very end.  No X for me tonight...
[05:08] <Toba|BSD> so I go in synaptic
[05:08] <Toba|BSD> and click mark upgrades
[05:08] <mik3> nalioth it worked fine before i did an upgrade a few weeks ago
[05:08] <Toba|BSD> and it marks them all fine
[05:09] <Toba|BSD> but the apply button is grayed out
[05:09] <Toba|BSD> why is that
[05:09] <nalioth> mik3: in synaptic are all the mozilla things installed?
[05:09] <mik3> will comply, stand by
[05:09] <concept10> has anyone seen the Yahoo commercials using the 8-bit like characters?
[05:09] <digitize> nalioth: i imagine there is a package for the whole suite
[05:09] <digitize> just check the description
[05:09] <Toba|BSD> it seems that my package information was NOT updated
[05:09] <BlueEagle> concept10: "8-bit like" as in utf8?
[05:09] <durt> toba|bsd: i dont know - use "sudo apt-get upgrade" then
[05:09] <sportman> wtf
[05:09] <sportman> i cant figure this out
[05:10] <concept10> BlueEagle: 8-bit like Commodore 64
[05:10] <flyingpenguin> w00t
[05:10] <Toba|BSD> apt-get upgrade...
[05:10] <nalioth> mik3: see what digitize said above and check your installation
[05:10] <BlueEagle> sportman: You need to press the keys in different other.
[05:10] <Toba|BSD> will a root shell do?
[05:10] <Toba|BSD> or does it have to be sudo
[05:10] <flyingpenguin> isn't it apt-get update?
[05:10] <flyingpenguin> apt-get does have to be sudo
[05:10] <Toba|BSD> aha!
[05:10] <flyingpenguin> w00t
[05:10] <BlueEagle> flyingpenguin: sudo apt-get update, but yes.
[05:10] <Toba|BSD> that would explain why jack shit happened
[05:10] <flyingpenguin> anywho... I have to go now
[05:10] <flyingpenguin> at a lanparty ;)
[05:10] <durt> its upgrade fellas
[05:10] <sportman> and jpackage
[05:11] <mik3> nalioth: mozilla, firefox, thunderbird, some dev stuff is installed. for some reason the script didn't install composer, i feel gyped!
[05:11] <BlueEagle> durt: That depends on what you want to do, doesn't it?
[05:11] <mik3> because now i'm no longer on broadband =/
[05:11] <nalioth> mik3: that is what you are missing
[05:11] <mik3> well crap
[05:11] <sportman> how do i install jre
[05:11] <mik3> what's the apt-get name to install it
[05:11] <sportman> i have the .bin file
[05:11] <durt> blueeagle: and he wanted to mark all upgrades in synaptic
[05:11] <BlueEagle> durt: Ahh. Didn't get that. :)
[05:12] <Toba|BSD> huh
[05:12] <Toba|BSD> I did apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade
[05:12] <Toba|BSD> both with sudo
[05:12] <durt> sportman: bet it from backports of extras or whatever that repo is
[05:12] <Toba|BSD> and nothing has been updated
[05:12] <Toba|BSD> what is wrong
[05:12] <mik3> naltioth: composer isn't even coming up in the search i do on synaptec or apt-cache
[05:12] <sportman> wtf?
[05:12] <sportman> lo
[05:12] <sportman> l
[05:12] <sportman> brb
[05:12] <mik3> repository issue perhaps?
[05:12] <flyingpenguin> anyone here know abought imwheel?
[05:12] <dabar> Toba|BSD: you tell us. What is in your repositories list in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:12] <Toba|BSD> what conf are my repos in
[05:12] <nalioth> mik3: you should be able to install mozilla (and it should install everything)
[05:12] <Toba|BSD> I'll look there yes
[05:13] <durt> toba|bsd, does it say the you have no updates needed?
[05:13] <BlueEagle> toba|bsd: /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:13] <Toba|BSD> I do need updates
[05:13] <Toba|BSD> but they aren't happening
[05:13] <Toba|BSD> I'll get back to you with my list
[05:13] <kriptic13> flyingpenguin: imwheel hasn't been needed for a long time. :)
[05:13] <mik3> nalioth: mozilla is installed but maybe composer isn't listed as a stand alone program , and when i type mozilla at console it starts firefox
[05:13] <flyingpenguin> kriptic13: then how do you think I should get my microsoft mouse to work?
[05:14] <kriptic13> flyingpenguin: Is it just your mouse wheel that isn't working? Or are there other buttons involved?
[05:14] <Toba|BSD> it looks like only archinve.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ is not commented out
[05:14] <flyingpenguin> kriptic13: side to side scrooling/back and foword buttons
[05:14] <Toba|BSD> *archive
[05:14] <Toba|BSD> should I uncomment the other repos?
[05:15] <dabar> Toba|BSD: you should paste your sources.list file to paste.ubuntulinux.nl .
[05:15] <mik3> nalioth maybe i should kick the computer
[05:15] <kriptic13> flyingpenguin: the secret lies in setting up the mouse inputdevice section of xorg.conf.
[05:15] <Toba|BSD> I'm doing that
[05:15] <flyingpenguin> kriptic13: hold on let me start irc in my gui
[05:15] <durt> anybody have mozplugger working with firefox 1.5?
[05:16] <nalioth> mik3: wont help, and may hurt
[05:16] <flyingpenguin> ok... its starting
[05:16] <Toba|BSD> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2237
[05:16] <durt> i moved all the .so files, but mozplugger still doesnt work
[05:16] <Flying-Penguin> ok...
[05:16] <mik3> nalioth what do you suggest?
[05:16] <dabar> Toba|BSD: in fact, the # in front of a line means its commented out, and is not used.
[05:16] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: ok...
[05:16] <kriptic13> flyingpenguin: I don't have the same mouse that you do, obviously.... so it will probably be just a bit different for you....
[05:16] <nalioth> mik3: install composer
[05:17] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: do you have side scrooling?
[05:17] <Toba|BSD> dabar, I know that
[05:17] <Toba|BSD> read the line I said about commenting out again
[05:17] <mik3> HEH i just did apt-get install mozilla and it's reinstalling the browser
[05:17] <mik3> and a bunch of other crap
[05:17] <kriptic13> flyingpenguin: no, but I do have a 12-button multimedia mouse.  :)
[05:17] <dabar> Toba|BSD: youre right.
[05:17] <Toba|BSD> thank you
[05:17] <nalioth> mik3: that "other crap" is the crap you need
[05:17] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: 12-button?
[05:17] <Toba|BSD> I'll read that tutorial somebody told the bot to give me, it will help right?
[05:18] <dabar> Toba|BSD: I dont know which tutorial the bot gave you. I think that you just have the regular repos enabled, and to receive updates, you need to have the security repos enabled.
[05:18] <mik3> nalioth: are you running breezy or still on hoary?
[05:18] <nalioth> mik3: both. i have hoary on this box
[05:18] <kriptic13> flyingpenguin: hold on a sec... need to remember what I did.... :)
[05:18] <nalioths_dog> mik3, and breezy on this one
[05:19] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: I sent you my config
[05:19] <Toba|BSD> ok thanks dabar
[05:19] <mik3> breezy stable for ya?
[05:20] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: ok... my side buttons work
[05:20] <TraceGreen> Hello, does anyone use freenx? i want to control a remote computer with freenx, my computer is windows, remote is debian linux, Can these 2 computers use the same session?
[05:20] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: but they don't go back/foword
[05:20] <hablandocontigo> hello, I've been trying to share files between my ubuntu computer and Tiger computer between a Linksys all day. any troubleshooting tips?
[05:20] <dabar> wel;come
[05:21] <nalioths_dog> mik3, it's a ruff ride
[05:21] <nalioth> hablandocontigo: if all else fails, use sftp
[05:21] <mik3> yah so i've been hearing
[05:22] <dabar> hablandocontigo: yes. /msg ubotu ask
[05:22] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: you there?
[05:22] <mik3> hablandocontigo : what kind of network setup
[05:22] <concept10> TraceGreen: have you tried to use a Remote Desktop Client?
[05:22] <mik3> ip's both in the same subnet class etc? like you don't have one computer using 192.168.1.10 and another on 192.168.0.11
[05:22] <TraceGreen> concept10, what do you mean of Remote Desktop Client?
[05:23] <TraceGreen> i tried freenx, but it seems 2 computers cann't use the same session.
[05:24] <kriptic13> flyingpenguin: I've been PM'ing you back.  :)
[05:25] <kriptic13> flyingpenguin: let me know if I need to repeat.
[05:25] <nalioth> kriptic13: you need to register and identify with nickserv to send priv msgs
[05:25] <kriptic13> bugger all.  :)
[05:25] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: I don't see any of the msgs...
[05:25] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: join #flying-penguin
[05:26] <hablandocontigo> mik3 linksys router wired
[05:27] <Flying-Penguin> JxpX: pwnt
[05:27] <Diffindo> Question: How can I boot directly into a terminal, as apposed to starting X?
[05:27] <Cicakman> hello
[05:27] <crimsun> Diffindo: search the wiki for disabling gdm
[05:27] <waltz> Question: Has the autogreeter crash been fixed in 5.10? :|
[05:27] <Cicakman> my ubuntu is behaving very weirdly.. the sound output comes from the headphone port only, and not the proper soundcard port
[05:28] <ghostdog> how do i uncompress a rar file
[05:28] <Cicakman> can anyone help me with this?
[05:28] <crimsun> Cicakman: cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:28] <Cicakman> 0 [Audigy2        ] : Audigy2 - Sound Blaster Audigy2
[05:28] <Cicakman>                      Sound Blaster Audigy2 (rev.4) at 0xc8c0, irq 18
[05:28] <durt> ghostdog, you need unrar
[05:28] <crimsun> Cicakman: paste the output from ''amixer'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:28] <cef> waltz: which autogreeter crash?
[05:28] <nalioth> ghostdog: install unrar-nonfree
[05:29] <Will^Draven> when trying to install software updates i get this error:
[05:29] <Will^Draven> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:29] <Will^Draven> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[05:29] <crimsun> Will^Draven: how are you trying to install software?
[05:29] <nalioth> Will^Draven: dont paste in here, use #flood or a pastebin
[05:29] <Cicakman> Crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2238
[05:29] <ghostdog> where is that unrar-nonfree located ?
[05:30] <crimsun> ghostdog: in multiverse
[05:30] <Will^Draven> for the software updates app thingy that popped up and said updates were available
[05:30] <apokryphos> Will^Draven: make sure you don't have other instances of apt/synaptic etc open
[05:30] <cef> Diffindo: you either need to disable gdm, or you can use recovery mode (automatically gives you root - use only for recovery)
[05:30] <cvt|ubuntu> i don't have the hoary extras feature in my repositories
[05:30] <scopecreep> is it ok to use the hoary-backports repository with a breezy preview install?
[05:30] <nalioth> !info unrar-nonfree
[05:30] <ubotu> unrar-nonfree: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.4.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[05:30] <apokryphos> scopecreep: could be a little shaky
[05:31] <crimsun> Cicakman: are you using the analog speaker out or the optical SPDIF connection?
[05:31] <Diffindo> cef
[05:31] <nalioth> scopecreep: there are no breezy backports
[05:31] <Diffindo> How would I boot into recovery mode?
[05:31] <ghostdog> wheres multiverse ?
[05:31] <Cicakman> crimsun: not sure what you meant by that... but it's just a normal cable to the speaker
[05:31] <nalioth> scopecreep: the pkgs in hoary-backports are the same in breezy
[05:31] <nalioth> !tell ghostdog about sources
[05:31] <scopecreep> ok thats what i meant to ask i guess
[05:31] <Diffindo> !recovery mode
[05:31] <ubotu> Diffindo: I give up, what is it?
[05:31] <Diffindo> !recoverymode
[05:31] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Diffindo
[05:31] <crimsun> Cicakman: not into a stereo receiver, correct?
[05:31] <scopecreep> thanks for the info
[05:32] <Cicakman> crimsun: correct
[05:32] <nalioth> Diffindo: go to wiki.ubuntu.com and search for disable gdm
[05:32] <cef> Diffindo: when you boot, it gives you options of what kernels to boot.. select the top one with the words "(recovery mode)" after it
[05:32] <nalioth> cef: dont advise that please. it isnt safe to run as root
[05:32] <crimsun> Cicakman: in a Terminal, amixer sset 'IEC958' off && amixer sset 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on
[05:33] <cef> nalioth: I did specify that earlier it's specifically to fix stuff only
[05:33] <crimsun> Cicakman: you probably want to adjust the 'Surround' element using alsamixer or Volume Control, too
[05:33] <nalioth> cef: some people dont know waht "fixing stuff" means in a *nix box
[05:33] <Diffindo> I'll be back
[05:33] <cef> nalioth: and if X kills your machine, given the default config, you basically need to use it
[05:33] <DMJC> ok
[05:34] <DMJC> something has totally died on it's ass in gnome
[05:34] <nalioth> cef: you have to think of the lowest common denominator when you give advice. not everyone is as knowledgable as you are
[05:34] <DMJC> what I did was put in a new hard drive
[05:34] <DMJC> and move the home folder to it
[05:34] <DMJC> all the permissions got converted to root
[05:34] <DMJC> so I did a chown user:users *
[05:34] <Cicakman> crimsun: you are beautiful
[05:34] <DMJC> on the home folder
[05:34] <DMJC> any ideas?
[05:34] <sportman> and bittornado gui
[05:35] <sportman> but it doesnt show up
[05:35] <sportman> on the applications list
[05:35] <sportman> n e ideas?
[05:35] <Cicakman> crimsun: what does IEC958 mean?
[05:35] <nalioth> sportman: open a terminal and run btdownloadgui.py
[05:35] <crimsun> Cicakman: that's the optical SPDIF connection
[05:35] <Cicakman> ic,,,,
[05:35] <nalioth> !tell sportman about smeg
[05:35] <durt> sportman: you can add it with smeg if your in gnome
[05:36] <Cicakman> crimsun: thx a lot!
[05:36] <crimsun> Cicakman: np
[05:38] <sportman> damn i hate this
[05:38] <sportman> its being gay
[05:38] <crimsun> omp: live cd
[05:38] <sportman> says i have 0.9 installed
[05:38] <sportman> of some lib
[05:38] <sportman> and i need 0.1
[05:38] <omp> crimsun: okay =] 
[05:38] <nalioth> sportman: what program is complaining?
[05:39] <durt> why wont java work in firefox 1.5? and mozplugger too
[05:39] <omp> maybe if i like it enough i might consider switching to breezy as my main OS :)
[05:39] <ADRnLn> Room: Anyone here using breezy on a newer PowerBook?... please notify me...
[05:39] <crimsun> durt: check if the plug interface has changed
[05:40] <Versed> I have the latest ubuntu on a g4 450
[05:40] <nalioth> ADRnLn: you might try #debian or #redhat also (the same module will work for all distros, usually)
[05:40] <ADRnLn> im trying to find someone who has it running on a PB that uses the USB touchpad instead of the older ADB system
[05:40] <ColonelKernel> i dont reccomend fedora
[05:40] <ColonelKernel> or debian
[05:40] <omp> durt: in the URL field, type about:plugins
[05:41] <durt> crimsun: i deleted the pluginreg.dat and it regenerated. should i move firefox of my home folder or something?
[05:41] <sportman> when im trying to do dpg -i smeg
[05:41] <ugo> i'm having problems compiling open afs on hoary?
[05:41] <ColonelKernel> the distros are good but the support channels are an abusive madhouse
[05:41] <sportman> lol
[05:41] <Versed> From what I've read, it's more of a wifi problem then anything else.
[05:41] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: ADRnLn is looking for a linux device driver, not another OS
[05:41] <crimsun> durt: I can't speak for firefox 1.5beta
[05:41] <nalioth> sportman: use the install script off the smeg homepage
[05:41] <ugo> help! it compiles with error....what do i do....what do i do!
[05:41] <ColonelKernel> nalioth, gotcha
[05:41] <omp> fedora support channel isn't bad
[05:41] <sportman> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of smeg:
[05:41] <sportman>  smeg depends on python-xdg (>= 0.14); however:
[05:41] <sportman>   Version of python-xdg on system is 0.9-1.
[05:41] <sportman> lol
[05:41] <crimsun> ugo: paste the errors on paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:41] <nalioth> sportman: dont paste in here
[05:41] <Versed> I have a 17inch 1.5 pb, not intending to install it on it
[05:41] <ugo> thanks one sec
[05:41] <omp> i don't think anythign compares tot he support channel of gentoo, though
[05:42] <omp> to the*
[05:42] <nalioth> sportman: use the install script from the smeg homepage
[05:42] <cvt|ubuntu> Please insert the disk labeled:
[05:42] <cvt|ubuntu> Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)
[05:42] <cvt|ubuntu> in drive /cdrom/
[05:42] <nalioth> cvt|ubuntu: do not paste in here, please
[05:42] <sportman> i am
[05:42] <cvt|ubuntu> why is it telling me that when i try to get java in synaptic?
[05:42] <ColonelKernel> the fedora support channel is pure crap, as is the debian one.
[05:42] <cvt|ubuntu> ok
[05:42] <sportman> i saved the script
[05:42] <sportman> there is no file type?
[05:42] <ColonelKernel> Ive never had problems in #gentoo
[05:42] <sportman> what do i do ./scriptname
[05:42] <sportman> ?
[05:42] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: (there are a few gems in #debian, but that's off-topic)
[05:43] <ColonelKernel> a few, lol
[05:43] <nalioth> sportman: or sh scriptname
[05:43] <ColonelKernel> few dozen
[05:43] <addict02> eheheh
[05:43] <crimsun> ColonelKernel: no, I meant ones that do good, like cafuego and bob2
[05:43] <ColonelKernel> oh yeah
[05:43] <ugo> one sec while i run the compile script again
[05:43] <addict02> sus
[05:43] <nalioth> crimsun: we have bob2 and cafuego in here....
[05:43] <ColonelKernel> crimsun, well thankfully theyve come here
[05:43] <sportman> haha
[05:43] <sportman> that gave me even more errors nalioth
[05:43] <sportman> :-P
[05:44] <crimsun> nalioth: again proving that not everyone in #debian is uptight
[05:44] <addict02> oi
[05:44] <nalioth> sportman: paste them somewhere
[05:44] <nalioth> sportman: but not here
[05:44] <pinko> depending on the browser, I may or may not be required to register for the new york times when I go to a news site linked from google news.
[05:44] <pinko> anyone know what sorcery is at play?
[05:44] <nalioth> pinko: cookies
[05:44] <cvt|ubuntu> i can't get hoary-extras in repository, will you help me?
[05:45] <nalioth> !tell cvt|ubuntu about repos
[05:45] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell cvt|ubuntu about hoary-extras
[05:45] <sportman> naloith
[05:45] <omp> ubuntu's package management is confusing lol
[05:45] <sportman> i pm'ed u the error
[05:45] <pilyo> hi to all
[05:46] <nalioth> sportman: read this text: paste it into #flood or a pastebin
[05:46] <pinko> nalioth: I thought it might be a special package membership deal with the browser, but ok
[05:46] <apokryphos> omp: bad idea, since (i) often considered rude to PM without requesting, (ii) not everyone in here can see the error.
[05:46] <nalioth> sportman: you CANNOT send priv msgs until you register and identify with nickserv
[05:46] <sportman> i did
[05:46] <sportman> i belive?
[05:46] <pinko> nalioth: oddly enough, elinks and w3m are handling it and opera is not
[05:46] <sportman> ahh
[05:46] <sportman> there we go
[05:46] <nalioth> !tell sportman about msg
[05:47] <apokryphos> nalioth: unless you select the option to allow it :P
[05:47] <nalioth> apokryphos: sorry, no that is a freenode setting, not an individual one
[05:47] <clarkn0va> i just got a wireless b card for this laptop.  can someone tell me what utility i need to run to set it up?
[05:48] <sportman> sorry bout the pm nalioth
[05:48] <apokryphos> nalioth: what I mean is, you can set it so that you can receive /msg from non-registered members (to ovveride freenode current), but don't worry
[05:48] <sportman> lol, but u said not to put the error in the chan
[05:48] <sportman> :-P
[05:48] <nalioth> sportman: did you not get the msg from ubotu?
[05:48] <nalioth> sportman: do not blindly msg people
[05:48] <sportman> lol
[05:48] <sportman> i got it after
[05:48] <sportman> :(
[05:49] <ugo> thanks muchos
[05:49] <sportman> well i messanged u, do u have any free time, cause u didnt want me to post the error in the main chan
[05:49] <nalioth> !tell sportman about paste
[05:49] <ADRnLn> ping robotgeek
[05:49] <nalioth> sportman: if you paste it and post your URL here, more people can help you
[05:49] <sportman> ahh
[05:49] <Diffindo> I'm trying to install the drivers for my soundcard, and in the Linux dir of my driver .zip is CALDERA, REDFLAG, and REDHAT.. Which should I use?
[05:50] <sportman> im posting my message in #flood
[05:50] <sportman> please take a look if u can
[05:50] <crimsun> ugo: be aware that you need to use gcc-3.4 to compile it
[05:50] <masterloki> hi there
[05:50] <crimsun> ugo: make sure the compiler you use matches the compiler listed in /proc/version
[05:50] <masterloki> I have a problem grub seems to have erased my win entry I want to run windows....
[05:51] <masterloki> how do I add the windows entry
[05:51] <pc9> hi
[05:51] <Flying-Penguin> kriptic13: where do I get .Xmodmap???
[05:51] <Flying-Penguin> sorry I didn't reply
[05:51] <Flying-Penguin> I had to host a ut2k4 server and I couldn't minimize
[05:52] <sportman> lol
[05:52] <nalioth> sportman: try "apt-get install smeg"
[05:52] <sportman> no luck
[05:52] <ColonelKernel> Flying-Penguin, I never could figure out how to run the thing properly out of console either
[05:52] <sportman> tried that along with synaptic
[05:52] <apokryphos> sportman: ...if you have backports enabled.
[05:53] <Flying-Penguin> ColonelKernel: what do you mean?
[05:53] <jazzykay> hey
[05:53] <sportman> what is backports
[05:53] <sportman> lol
[05:53] <nalioth> !tell sportman about backports
[05:53] <ColonelKernel> Flying-Penguin, how to run the ut2k4 server in console mode, without x/gnome/etc
[05:54] <omp> does gnome 2.12 have a clipboard manager?
[05:54] <apokryphos> Did gnome have *no* menu-editor before smeg?
[05:54] <jazzykay> anyone have success with audigy soundcard in breezy?
[05:54] <apokryphos> or did shortcuts have to be put in manually or something
[05:54] <nalioth> apokryphos: not to my knowledge
[05:54] <crimsun> jazzykay: paste the output of ''amixer'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[05:54] <Flying-Penguin> ColonelKernel: I didn't run console... I played alos
[05:54] <apokryphos> nalioth: a menu-editor seems like a fairly standard thing; why so delayed?
[05:55] <omp> apokryphos: i don't think so, but it's not hard to create menu entries manually anyways :)
[05:55] <apokryphos> oh, thought so.
[05:55] <Diffindo> can XMMS play mpegs?
[05:55] <apokryphos> no
[05:55] <omp> Diffindo: mplayer
[05:55] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Diffindo about players
[05:55] <jazzykay> crimsum. i am pasting it now
[05:56] <durt> diffindo yes - get the mplayer plugin
[05:56] <Diffindo> which one
[05:56] <sportman> Depends: python-xdg (>=0.14) but 0.9-1 is to be installed
[05:56] <pc9> anyone care to chat wt me?
[05:56] <Diffindo> I get several with apt-get
[05:56] <sportman> ok i am close
[05:56] <sportman> it says this depends
[05:56] <sportman> :(
[05:57] <durt> diffindo try them all then
[05:57] <Flying-Penguin> will someone help me?
[05:57] <Flying-Penguin> I need to make my side scrooling work
[05:57] <Flying-Penguin> and my side buttons go back/foword
[05:57] <masterloki> can someone tell me whereis grub.con
[05:57] <masterloki> I can't find it
[05:57] <crimsun> masterloki: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:57] <cvt|ubuntu> ok, nalioth
[05:57] <masterloki> ok
[05:58] <sportman> lol
[05:58] <crimsun> licensing issues
[05:58] <cvt|ubuntu> nalioth, i got to the part that says, "add the following: deb http:..."  but *where* do they want me to add it?
[05:58] <sportman> gay licensing
[05:58] <sportman> lol
[05:58] <cvt|ubuntu> command line?
[05:58] <sportman> cause i just want smeg so i can access bittornado
[05:59] <jazzykay> are you able to see what was pasted in paste.ubuntulinux.nl.
[05:59] <sportman> but if i had java i could use azaureus
[05:59] <sportman> i got the jre1.5.0_04
[05:59] <sportman> folder
[05:59] <Flying-Penguin> ANYONE?
[05:59] <sportman> from running the install scipt
[05:59] <Diffindo> sigh...
[05:59] <sportman> where can i put that?
[05:59] <nalioth> !tell cvt|ubuntu about sources
[05:59] <crimsun> sportman: so install the java-package package and use it to create a deb from the jre you downloaded, then install that deb
[05:59] <Diffindo> All of this just to be able to watch some pr0n...
[05:59] <sportman> crimsun: i tried that
[06:00] <sportman> got more wierd ass errors
[06:00] <sportman> i installed jpackage
[06:00] <sportman> and that fakeroot thing
[06:00] <sportman> still didnt work
[06:00] <cvt|ubuntu> nalioth, i'm at the bottom of that page you gave me.
[06:00] <sportman> is there a way to take the folder that i got from running the install script
[06:00] <sportman> and drag it somewhere?
[06:00] <nalioth> where is amaranth, anyway?
[06:00] <hay> sportman: u trying to install java?
[06:00] <crimsun> sportman: no, use make-jpkg with the tarball you downloaded, not the extracted directory
[06:00] <nalioth> cvt|ubuntu: open with a text editor (using sudo) /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:01] <nalioth> sportman: there is a learning curve here
[06:01] <Diffindo> !players
[06:01] <nalioth> sportman: nothin is forced on you here, like in other OS'
[06:01] <ubotu> methinks players is Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Beep-media-player, JuK, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC
[06:01] <crimsun> jazzykay: what's the issue?
[06:01] <sportman> i know there is a learning curve
[06:01] <sportman> i have messed with linux 4 a while
[06:02] <jazzykay> crimsum: i have no sound whatsoever
[06:02] <sportman> i just seem to be having more problems then i usually do
[06:02] <sportman> lol
[06:02] <mik3> nalioth: just installed everything, still get: Cannot find mozilla runtime directory. Exiting.
[06:02] <nalioth> sportman: go walk the dog
[06:02] <jazzykay> and i should
[06:02] <nalioth> mik3: that is strange
[06:02] <x[trick] x> i just installed ubuntu on my computer.. how can i see my fat32 drive?
[06:02] <crimsun> jazzykay: are you using the analog speaker out or the optical SPDIF?
[06:02] <mik3> yeah i must admit i am flabbergasted
[06:02] <jazzykay> pretty sure it is analog
[06:02] <aroma> how can i install my cam and printer in ubntu
[06:03] <crimsun> jazzykay: "pretty sure"?
[06:03] <jazzykay> crim: positive
[06:03] <jazzykay> logitech zx-560 thx speakers are not digital
[06:03] <durt> aroma, your cam might work if you just plug it in
[06:03] <crimsun> jazzykay: does muting 'External Amplifier' resolve the issue?
[06:03] <sportman> look there is no place to just drag the folder?>
[06:03] <aroma> really
[06:03] <sportman> i remember doing that to get it working a while back
[06:03] <sportman> but i cant remember now
[06:04] <jazzykay> crim: where the hell would i do that?
[06:04] <jazzykay> alsamixer?
[06:04] <aroma> does it work durt
[06:04] <hay> how do i enable the network if i connected the network cable after the computer booted (i have only server installed, no gui)
[06:04] <crimsun> jazzykay: using any mixer, say, Volume Control, alsamixer, aumix, amixer, ...
[06:04] <rcc_eric> why i cant access my files on floppy drives here in ubuntu
[06:04] <durt> i dont have your camera aroma, try it
[06:05] <aroma> can i used my cam if ill be in the yahoo chatroom
[06:05] <x[trick] x> i just installed ubuntu on my computer.. how can i see my fat32 drive?
[06:05] <pc9> heeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[06:05] <aroma> i had plug it durt
[06:06] <durt> oh i thought you meant digital camera, not webcam, sry
[06:06] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell x[trick] x about windowsdrives
[06:06] <aroma> yeah
[06:06] <aroma> lol
[06:06] <aroma> its my webcam
[06:06] <aroma> does it work
[06:06] <ghostdog> !tell x[trick] x mountingwindows
[06:06] <aroma> in ubuntu
[06:06] <n00blar> x[trick] x, check out in /etc/fstab and see if ubuntu sees it..most likely it does
[06:06] <kriptic13> x[trick] x: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountfat
[06:07] <ghostdog> how can i use a webcam in yahoomessenger in Ubunto ?
[06:07] <aroma> please anybody could tell me how to install my webcam and printer
[06:07] <aroma> yeah
[06:07] <aroma> thats it
[06:07] <jazzykay> crimsum: in multimedia systems selector.. should it be esd or alsa?
[06:07] <durt> not sure about webcams, but i recall there is a client you can use call "gnothol" (?) dont know how its spelled
[06:07] <aroma> how can i use webcam
[06:07] <CarlFK> what model webcam?
[06:07] <aroma> genius
[06:07] <aroma> cam
[06:07] <kriptic13> !faq
[06:07] <ubotu> faq is, like, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[06:07] <jazzykay> crimsum: i get failed to construct test pipeline for esd
[06:08] <aroma> and kokoom
[06:08] <kailey> o.o;;
[06:08] <Diffindo> !webcam
[06:08] <Cicakman> hello..
[06:08] <kailey> Hello Cicakman.
[06:08] <n00blar> aroma, try this site: http://www.aboutdebian.com/webcam.htm
[06:08] <Cicakman> how can i install fglrx driver
[06:08] <ghostdog> !webcam
[06:08] <aroma> then
[06:08] <ugo> !tell ugo about webcam
[06:08] <Cicakman> i tried to install the driver, but the acceleration is not turned on yet
[06:08] <aroma> what is next
[06:08] <crimsun> jazzykay: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[06:09] <Cicakman> can anyone help me?
[06:09] <n00blar> cica, I'm having the same problem...can't find a fix for it yet
[06:09] <solidgroove> how do you install fonts with ubuntu?
[06:09] <durt> solidgroove: get msttcorefonts
[06:09] <nalioth> solidgroove: you drop them in ~/.fonts usually
[06:09] <jazzykay> crimsum: 0000:02:0c.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 03)
[06:09] <durt> or put some in ~/.fonts
[06:09] <nalioth> solidgroove: any TTF fonts will work
[06:09] <solidgroove> .fonts will work in that file?
[06:10] <hay> how do i enable the network if i connected the network cable after the computer booted (i have only server installed, no gui)
[06:10] <jazzykay> crimsum: thank you in advance for helping
[06:10] <n00blar> Cicakman, I think it boils down to an issue with Xorg or a conf file in xorg...I can see the module loaded on my box
[06:10] <Cicakman> n00blar: how to see if the module is loaded? lsmod?
[06:10] <n00blar> Cicakman, or try dmesg|grep fglrx
[06:11] <CarlFK> aroma - Genius VideoCAM Web V1 2 or 3?
[06:11] <Cicakman> n00blar: oops.. forgot to download the kernel module for it
[06:11] <crimsun> jazzykay: lspci -nvv 0403
[06:11] <paulproteus> hay: ifup eth0
[06:11] <paulproteus> hay: you may need to "ifdown eth0" first.
[06:11] <nalioth> solidgroove: drop your fontmame.ttf in to your ~/.fonts directory (if you dont have one, make one
[06:12] <n00blar> Cicakman, make sure you get the headers for your kernel
[06:12] <Cicakman> can i load the module in command prompt, or do i have to reboot my computer for that?
[06:12] <solidgroove> ok
[06:12] <hay> hay: ok thanks
[06:12] <hay> paulproteus: ok thanks
[06:12] <mik3> nalioth saaaaaaave me =-/
[06:12] <jazzykay> crimsum: the switches for that command aren't working too well
[06:12] <aroma> 2
[06:12] <durt> did you just thank yourself?
[06:13] <n00blar> Cicakman, I think u need to reboot, I don't know a way to do it from cli
[06:13] <aroma> how do i install this V
[06:13] <durt> aroma, a network printer?
[06:13] <aroma> yeah
[06:13] <mik3> nalioth : without nvu i can't publish blog entries and whine to the public about my pathetic life
[06:13] <aroma> durt
[06:13] <aroma> please
[06:13] <crimsun> jazzykay: lspci -nvv |grep 0403
[06:13] <Cicakman> modprobe.. but i forgot how to do it
[06:13] <durt> aroma, is the printer on a windows machine?
[06:13] <aroma> yeah
[06:13] <Cicakman> lemme try this
[06:13] <jazzykay> crimsum: nothing returns for that value
[06:13] <CarlFK> aroma - good news is it looks like it is supported: http://zc0302.sourceforge.net/zc0302.php?page=cams
[06:13] <IceDragon> how do I use apt-get ot install files locally?
[06:14] <IceDragon> like
[06:14] <IceDragon> apt-get install /home/user/Desktop/sometarfile.tgz  ?
[06:14] <n00blar> Cica, I think modprobe -a module will do it
[06:14] <CarlFK> aroma - but that doesn't mean it will be easy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:15] <thewayofzen> bob2, around tonite?
[06:15] <aroma> ah so ..
[06:15] <nalioth> IceDragon: use dpkg to install local files
[06:16] <aroma> but wait it doesnt supported yet
[06:16] <aroma> so the webcams could not still be installed
[06:16] <aroma> am i rigth
[06:16] <aroma> plsss
[06:17] <mik3> nalioth: how about i add you an account on my box and you HELP A BROTHER OUT?!
[06:17] <mik3> =/
[06:17] <CarlFK> aroma - depends on how much effort you want to put in
[06:17] <aroma> okay
[06:17] <aroma> ill try
[06:18] <aroma> how about the printer
[06:18] <aroma> i want to install it
[06:18] <heliosh> anyone know which java compiler is a good lightweight one?  I'm using Borland's Jbuilder IDE per professor's guidance, but wanted to try some commandline editing and compiling...  I'm not sure what's the barest install of the JDK compiler from SUN, I don't think I need the 100MB+ DLs... any ideas?
[06:18] <aroma> as a network printer
[06:18] <CarlFK> aroma - what printer (sorry if I missed it)
[06:18] <aroma> its hp 1010 a laser and pixma
[06:18] <durt> aroma: go to system>admin>printing
[06:18] <Cicakman> heliosh: r u talkinga bout compiler, or IDE?
[06:19] <crimsun> jazzykay: please paste the output from ''lspci -nvv'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:19] <aroma> when i click the network printer
[06:20] <heliosh> Cicakman: I really just want something that will turn java into class on the commandline, so compiler I think!
[06:20] <durt> and use smb, and use the windows computers name, and use the printers name
[06:20] <CarlFK> "as a network printer" - does that mean it just has a eathernet connection, or it is hooked to a box and you want to print to it from other workstations?
[06:20] <aroma> yeah
[06:20] <Cicakman> heliosh: then i'm quite sure that JBuilder comes with the java compiler that you can invoke from command line
[06:20] <aroma> it will be connect through stations
[06:20] <CarlFK> aroma - yeah A or yeah B?
[06:20] <durt> heliosh: scite is good for coding
[06:20] <Cicakman> heliosh: try to find 'javac'
[06:20] <nalioth> eclipse
[06:21] <Cicakman> eclipse rocks
[06:21] <Cicakman> but i still prefer intellij
[06:21] <alexandros> anyone knowe how to switch focus on mouseover?
[06:21] <heliosh> Cicakman: brilliant, I had an intuition that might be true... I think I actuallly have eclipse installed as well; intellij?
[06:21] <aroma> yeah b
[06:21] <DDR> hey, i'm trying to find a good C++ compiler and manual, does anybody know of any good ones??
[06:21] <jazzykay> crimsum: done
[06:21] <aroma> what if its A or B
[06:21] <Cicakman> intellij is quite similar to eclipse, but hell lots more functionality
[06:21] <aroma> please give me more details
[06:21] <Cicakman> but of course it comes with extra $$$
[06:21] <heliosh> ahh
[06:22] <Cicakman> eclipse should be sufficient for most purposes
[06:22] <durt> aroma: did you go to the printing menu, and click install a new printer?
[06:22] <aroma> what must be the next if ill click network
[06:22] <aroma> yeah
[06:22] <aroma> durt
[06:22] <aroma> im in step 2 now
[06:23] <aroma> sorry step 1
[06:23] <Cicakman> n00blar!!!! welcome back! i've configured my ATI 3d acceleration
[06:23] <durt> ok, use from the pulldown menu "windows smb"
[06:23] <heliosh> Cicakman: jetbrains.com is the correct home of the Intellij package you use?
[06:23] <n00blar> Cicakman, nice!!...what did u do?
[06:23] <Cicakman> yup
[06:23] <geez> is it possible to look at the source code for basic shell commands like 'rm' 'mv' etc?
[06:23] <Cicakman> n00blar: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:23] <Cicakman> n00blar: where it says " Driver  "ati" "
[06:24] <Cicakman> n00blar : change to :
[06:24] <aroma> when i click  the network printer what next
[06:24] <Cicakman> n00blar: Driver  "fglrx"
[06:24] <CarlFK> geez - yes.  worst case, look into gentoo
[06:24] <Cicakman> heliosh: yup
[06:24] <aroma> i was confused what must i click in the right box
[06:24] <nalioth> geez: i believe you want coreutils
[06:24] <n00blar> Cicakman, mine says that and when I run fglrxinfo...Mesa still comes up :(
[06:25] <jazzykay> crimsum: i just installed beep and that is playing my mp3s. but rhythmbox is not.
[06:25] <Cicakman> n00blar: ummm....
[06:25] <geez> nalioth: from the ubuntu repositories?
[06:25] <Cicakman> n00blar: did u try lsmod | grep fglrx ?
[06:25] <heliosh> I found javac Cicakman, I installed into my home dir (the default) and it's /home/heliosh/Borland/JBuilder2005/jdk1.4/bin/javac but I guess I need to add their bin to my PATH to make it work
[06:25] <n00blar> Cicakman, Yes, I get this: fglrx                 245412  7
[06:25] <n00blar> agpgart                32328  2 intel_agp,fglrx
[06:25] <crimsun> jazzykay: in System> Preferences> Multimedia Systems Selector, what is the Default Audio Sink set to?
[06:25] <jazzykay> crimsum: any ideas? as well what is the signifcance of multimedia systems selector
[06:25] <Cicakman> heliosh: yup
[06:26] <jazzykay> crimsum: defualt is ESD
[06:26] <Cicakman> heliosh: then you can just type 'javac something.java" to compile,  and "java something" to run it
[06:26] <Cicakman> heliosh: dont forget to set environment variable JAVA_HOME
[06:26] <durt> aroma, choose windows computer (smb)
[06:26] <crimsun> jazzykay: what is beep's audio output plugin set to?
[06:26] <aroma> yeah i did it
[06:26] <Cicakman> n00blar: umm... i'm afraid i can't help any further :( what ATI card do you have?
[06:26] <jazzykay> crimsum: when i run test for pipeline esdsink i get "failed to construct test pipeline of ;ESD Enlightenment Sound Daemon'
[06:27] <durt> aroma, put in the name of your windows computer in host
[06:27] <n00blar> Cicakman, the 9800XT Pro
[06:27] <jdermer> can ubuntu read HFS partitions
[06:27] <crimsun> jazzykay: look at beep's preferences> plugins> output
[06:27] <Cicakman> n00blar: mine is Radeon X300
[06:27] <dhonn> what is the best way to install JRE
[06:27] <jazzykay> crimsum: oss output plugin
[06:27] <durt> and put the name of the printer in printer
[06:27] <aroma> ill have to choose now
[06:27] <heliosh> Cicakman: JAVA_HOME? ok, I've not heard of that; will look it up thanks
[06:27] <n00blar> Cicakman, it's a weird one..I've been reading forums and try everything and still nothing :(
[06:27] <crimsun> jazzykay: then set Multimedia Systems Selector's Default Audio Sink to osssink
[06:27] <durt> you can probably just ignore hte username and pass
[06:27] <aroma> what will be the next install or aply
[06:27] <aroma> durt
[06:28] <jazzykay> crimsum: thanks. that did it
[06:28] <Cicakman> heliosh: JAVA_HOME should point to the java directory. In your case, it would be /home/heliosh/Borland/JBuilder2005/jdk1.4/
[06:28] <dhonn> /etc/alternatives/java points to the gcj version
[06:28] <Cicakman> heliosh: without the / in the end
[06:28] <crimsun> off for a tick
[06:28] <Cicakman> n00blar... i can't remember the guy from ubuntu who's in charge of video drivers...
[06:28] <durt> aroma, install installs a new driver, i dont think you need that
[06:28] <todd_> i have tried installing suse 9.3, ubuntu hoary, and ubuntu breezy, and i have had no sound each time
[06:28] <aroma> hyeah
[06:29] <aroma> yeah durt
[06:29] <durt> now choose the printer you have from the menu
[06:29] <todd_> what would be the problem?
[06:29] <Kioshi> hi
[06:29] <aroma> so ill just click apply
[06:29] <jazzykay> crimsum: next big question.. how do i get all 4 speakers to work?
[06:29] <Cicakman> todd_: maybe you are just having the same problem as me before....
[06:29] <Kioshi> someone talk spanish here :) ?
[06:29] <aroma> ok durt
[06:29] <Cicakman> todd_: do you have dell computer?
[06:29] <todd_> gateway laptop
[06:29] <sjj> Hi, i've just upgraded from warty to hoary, and now whenever I attempt to load the 'ipw2200' (intel pro wireless) module I get an error about it being unable to load the firmware.
[06:29] <aroma> the printer is already ready
[06:29] <sjj> anyone seen this before?
[06:29] <aroma> but ill try ti first
[06:29] <todd_> i have tried EVERYTHING
[06:30] <aroma> thanks durt
[06:30] <aroma> now my problem is all my webcam
[06:30] <sjj> The weird thing is, I also get this error when I boot my old warty kernel
[06:30] <durt> so it works now? and you can print a test page?
[06:30] <_____anderson_> #foz
[06:30] <aroma> how can i used it in the yahoo messenger and how can i view webcams of the others
[06:30] <n00blar> sjj, I remember seeing that error with suse 9.3...there's a kernel patch for that...i think
[06:30] <aroma> ples pls
[06:30] <bdt1805> does anyone know where ubuntu keeps its start up log?
[06:30] <todd_> im starting to think there might be something wrong with my sound card
[06:31] <Cicakman> i'm looking forward for suse 10.0
[06:31] <sportman> nm
[06:31] <sjj> n00blar: I'm thinking it must be something in userland, because it happens even on my old warty kernel now.
[06:31] <cvt|ubuntu> nalioth, thx
[06:31] <nalioth> cvt|ubuntu: np, anytime
[06:31] <sjj> n00blar: so it must have been something else that was changed as part of the dist-upgrade
[06:31] <sjj> (maybe hotplug, or something)
[06:31] <n00blar> sjj, well, some Intel guy has a project for iw2000 drivers and he's got the kernel firmware on his page
[06:31] <todd_> strange thing was my sound worked when i originally had hoary installed, then i installed suse and no sound
[06:32] <n00blar> sjj, yes, if you upgrade kernel u need to re-run patch
[06:32] <bdt1805> whats everyone's favorite linux os? im thinking of installing a new os to multiboot on my second hdd
[06:32] <nalioth> bdt1805: you should ask your question in #freenode, not here
[06:33] <sjj> n00blar: rerun 'patch' ?
[06:33] <bdt1805> free node? oh ok sorry
[06:33] <n00blar> sjj, yes..the kernel firmware from the Intel guy's website
[06:34] <sjj> ubuntu couldn't do this for me?
[06:34] <geez> nalioth: where would the source for coreutils be found?
[06:34] <durt> aroma, is you cam here: http://zc0302.sourceforge.net/zc0302.php?page=cams
[06:34] <sjj> (I don't think i'm using the ipw2200 project driver, i'm just using the one that comes with the kernel)
[06:35] <aroma> none
[06:35] <n00blar> hmm...
[06:35] <todd_> is there something i could enter into the terminal that would hint to a damaged sound card?
[06:35] <aroma> it is genuis v 2
[06:35] <aroma> only
[06:36] <aroma> kocom cam
[06:37] <durt> this aroma?: http://www.geniusnet.com.tw/product/product-1.asp?pdtno=118
[06:40] <ELpH95o> what'sup
[06:40] <ELpH95o> ubuntu is nice
[06:41] <aroma> durt ubuntu doesnt support this webcam only win xp
[06:41] <citrus_> can anyone tell me what the best/most_popular/easiest ID3 tag and file editor there is  avail for linux?
[06:41] <todd_> what are some diagnostics i can perform to test my sound.  i have no sound
[06:41] <durt> aroma, but some folks might have wrote up some drivers or something, google it some
[06:42] <aroma> ok ill try
[06:42] <aroma> durt
[06:43] <ELpH95o> i have sound perfectly
[06:43] <ELpH95o> what kidn of computer you have todd?
[06:43] <todd_> gateway 4540gz laptop
[06:43] <oolon> hi all i got an ati vid card i was looking for a how to and only found one in italian any english one to get 3d running?
[06:44] <todd_> ive been trying to figure this out for weeks
[06:44] <ELpH95o> i only have a intel cely 800
[06:44] <bdt1805> what kind of ati card is it?
[06:44] <ELpH95o> and  ati+sblive
[06:44] <ELpH95o> :)works perfect for me
[06:44] <ELpH95o> at least
[06:44] <oolon> bdt1805, a radeon 9550
[06:44] <todd_> hmm
[06:45] <todd_> would there be a conflict or something?
[06:45] <durt> alsaconf todd_
[06:45] <todd_> because everything is unmuted
[06:45] <todd_> let me try that
[06:45] <bdt1805> im running a radeon 9200, the drivers that come with ubuntu are fine for me, but i dont use 3d too much, you might try ati's site
[06:45] <TheRepublic> is there a way to view avi files in ubuntu live cd  version  ?
[06:45] <ELpH95o> i mostly use audio tools
[06:46] <ELpH95o> i worship sound apps in linux
[06:46] <Madpilot> !tell oolon about ati
[06:46] <durt> btw, sound is hassleless in breezy, if youre using hoary
[06:46] <Flying-Penguin> how do I install evdev???
[06:46] <oolon> Madpilot,  thanks
[06:46] <aroma> i find it hard durt what must i do to install my webcam
[06:46] <aroma> huh
[06:46] <heliosh> durt they've smoothed sound issues?  no more fiddling with alsa and esd to get sound working?
[06:46] <todd_> my sound worked the first time i installed ubuntu (hoary), but then i thought id test out suse.  after that it didnt work
[06:48] <ian> hey
[06:48] <aroma> i cant find how to install genius webcam v 2 in the site
[06:48] <aroma> for linux
[06:48] <n00blar> Anyone knows if there's a way to run K3b in Ubuntu? the cd application that comes with it is kind of lame
[06:48] <todd_> alsaconf does not run
[06:48] <ian> can someone point me to the repositories list for ubuntu 5.04?
[06:48] <ELpH95o> good at any low level coding?
[06:49] <heliosh> n00blar: I've run K3b in Ubuntu a bunch, but prefer gnomebaker or commandline cdrecord
[06:49] <nalioth> !tell ian about sources
[06:49] <ian> i searched in the wiki but didn't find a list, just instructions on how to add them
[06:49] <Madpilot> !tell ian about repos
[06:49] <ian> thanks man
[06:49] <aroma> wher should i go if i want to use this cam
[06:49] <n00blar> heliosh, gnomebaker? can I dl that from apt-get?
[06:49] <Madpilot> ian: follow the 2nd URL in that msg from ubotu
[06:49] <heliosh> yes n00blar
[06:50] <n00blar> heliosh, cool, let me try that one...thanks
[06:50] <ian> thanks, again, c ya
[06:50] <aroma> hey got to go ill just ask again about it later thanks and c y a
[06:50] <heliosh> k3b did weird things to this config file called .ICEauthority and I repeatedly had to re chown this file to regain access to the X environment (any graphics)
[06:50] <todd_> how do i launch alsa-utils?
[06:51] <Flying-Penguin> where do I get the xorg-sdk???
[06:51] <nalioth> heliosh: its a known problem with .ICEauthority
[06:51] <ELpH95o> any coders here
[06:51] <ELpH95o> ?
[06:51] <nalioth> heliosh: the most common method is to rm .ICEauthority when it acts up (it gets recreated each session, anyway)
[06:51] <Flying-Penguin> OK GOD DAMNIT
[06:51] <ELpH95o> i want to start a midi sequencer project
[06:51] <Flying-Penguin> HOW DO I GET MY INTELLIMOUSE WORKING?
[06:52] <nalioth> Flying-Penguin: no more caps, please
[06:52] <Madpilot> Flying-Penguin: yelling probably won't help...
[06:52] <Flying-Penguin> well...
[06:52] <heliosh> yes, I was grateful to find answers to it on forums nalioth; I was recommending gnome-based burner to n00blar citing that bug as one reason to prefer gnomebaker to k3b
[06:52] <Flying-Penguin> asking for hours without anyone saying anything is going to piss me off
[06:52] <nalioth> heliosh: actually it's nautilus that causes the .ICEauthority problem
[06:52] <ELpH95o> qu8estion:if i compile alsa could i overwrite the current alsa configuration?
[06:52] <heliosh> nalioth what wm do you run?
[06:52] <durt> just get a friggin 50cent mouse at happy harry's or something
[06:52] <nalioth> Flying-Penguin: if the knowledge isnt here, yelling about it isnt gonna bring in into the channel
[06:53] <nalioth> heliosh: gnome usually
[06:53] <nalioth> heliosh: most of my productivity is done in a terminal, tho
[06:53] <marini> i can't access my floopy disk pls help me
[06:54] <n00blar> I've always used K3b and never had problems with it..then again I've always used either suse or fc on kde
[06:54] <heliosh> I like gnome on a fast computer, but have grown quite happy with xfce as I'm a teacher and have it installled on a bunch of old boxes in my classroom, my sense is it lightens and speeds things up quite a bit
[06:54] <durt> yeah xfce is what im on now :)
[06:54] <durt> much faster than gnome
[06:54] <ELpH95o> you're a teacher heliosh ?
[06:54] <nalioth> heliosh: yes xfce4 is quite snappy
[06:55] <ELpH95o> what part of Earth are you at ?
[06:55] <heliosh> durt: or anyone know how to edit the system entries within the xfce right-click menu?  would that be done via the gnome menu-editor?  yes ELpH95o 2nd grade :-)
[06:55] <todd_> what does it mean when it says "cant construct test pipeline" when i test sound
[06:55] <chavo> heliosh, xfce has it's own menu editor
[06:55] <durt> hit the settings button
[06:56] <heliosh> chavo, yes I've used that but it doesn't dip into the "system Menu", or rather that part of the menu is inaccessible I thought
[06:56] <prolific> anyone here using a DVB card ?
[06:56] <misterdiff> how can i add png images next to the usernames on the login screen?
[06:56] <chavo> heliosh, you can edit any part of the menu
[06:56] <durt> settings>destop>menu>"edit desktop menu"
[06:56] <ELpH95o> nope
[06:57] <marini> hello... is there can help me
[06:57] <durt> ask marini
[06:58] <marini> i can't access my floopy disk
[06:58] <marini> what should i do
[06:58] <ELpH95o> wherez everyone here from?
[06:58] <durt> internal floppy?
[06:58] <ELpH95o> <-- in USA
[06:58] <heliosh> durt, chavo in that XFce4-MenuEditor dialog I see about 8 editable entries, and halfway down a --include-- system entry, from where the bulk of the other entries are pulled or hooked in from soem other menu I think
[06:59] <chavo> heliosh, ah right, it's been a while since I used xfce
[06:59] <durt> yeah, heliosh, i havent figured out how to edit that, but you can comment it out and add your own stuff instead
[07:00] <marini> yes....when i use nautilus my floopy was detected but i can't access it
[07:00] <oolon> Madpilot, can i flood in #squat to show you my output of fglrx and glxgears?
[07:01] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[07:01] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:01] <Madpilot> oolon: paste instead, then put the URL here
[07:02] <oolon> Madpilot, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2242
[07:02] <ELpH95o> ubotu, :you in holland?
[07:02] <ubotu> ELpH95o: Syntax error in line 1
[07:03] <Madpilot> !+ubotu
[07:03] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:03] <oolon> ELpH95o, ubotu is a bot
[07:04] <ELpH95o> oolon, :you in holland ?
[07:04] <oolon> nope ELpH95o but id like to be
[07:04] <CompBrain> anyone know anything about the /dev/sda does not have a corresponding bios drive error message on grub install?
[07:05] <durt> heliosh, what file manager do you use in xfce?
[07:05] <ELpH95o> not I CompBrain
[07:05] <Madpilot> oolon: those numbers look a bit low - I get ~1600-1700 FPS with my 9600XT - but glxgears is NOT totally reliable. How do actual 3d apps/games run?
[07:05] <ELpH95o> for building audio applications
[07:05] <heliosh> durt: I just use commandline for file management
[07:06] <oolon> Madpilot, got any i can apt or easy to install to try?
[07:06] <heliosh> durt: once in a while I use the default one whatever it's called xffm or something; it's not very intuitive for me though
[07:06] <Madpilot> oolon: Scorched3d is in the Ubuntu repos - it's a fun game anyway
[07:07] <jr_astig01> hi
[07:07] <durt> how do you get glxgears to output the fps?
[07:07] <oolon> Madpilot, thanks! btw im leeching and have a few distributed apps running in the backround
[07:07] <Madpilot> durt: open it from the command line
[07:07] <Madpilot> oolon: me too, I run six virtual desktops and currently about 15 tabs open in Opera too...
[07:08] <oolon> durt just type glxgears in terminal
[07:08] <durt> madpilot: i did, and i got some gears spinning and thats all
[07:08] <oolon> Madpilot, and still 1600 fps
[07:08] <dle> Hdo i dynamically load apache2 modules?  mod_rewrite, in particular?   I have mod_rewrite enabled as a symlink: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/rewrite.load.  However, 'apache2ctl -l' doesn't list it, and this behaviour suggests that's so.  Running hoary.
[07:08] <dle> s/Hdo/How do/
[07:08] <No1Viking> Are there any application for linux alike route66, the road planner?
[07:08] <oolon> durt wait it will appear in the terminal window
[07:09] <Madpilot> oolon: yeah; 1.9Ghz XPM w/ 1Gb RAM plus the 9600XT...
[07:09] <durt> wait for how long oolon?
[07:10] <oolon> Madpilot, whoah scorched3d is 75mb
[07:10] <Madpilot> durt: glxgears should post FPS every few seconds to the terminal window...
[07:10] <oolon> durt is it still howing the gears?
[07:10] <oolon> showing*
[07:10] <drapelyk> what's the linux equivalent to tracert to resolve hostnames?
[07:10] <oolon> drapelyk, traceroute i think
[07:10] <durt> ive had the glxgears window on for some time now, but now output is in the terminal
[07:11] <drapelyk> ha, thanks
[07:11] <BlueEagle> drapelyk: traceroute?
[07:11] <Madpilot> durt: and you started it from the command terminal?
[07:11] <durt> yup
[07:11] <drapelyk> it's not working
[07:11] <BlueEagle> drapelyk: sudo traceroute
[07:11] <drapelyk> k
[07:11] <drapelyk> command not found
[07:12] <BlueEagle> drapelyk: install traceroute first then. :)
[07:12] <Juhaz> traceroute isn't installed in ubuntu by default, which is damn strange, not to mention stupid
[07:12] <drapelyk> how do I install it? synaptic?
[07:12] <silverton> drapelyk, sudo apt-get install tracerouter
[07:12] <silverton> er, without that last r
[07:13] <florg> hi. installed ubuntu 5.10: rhythmbox can't load most of my mp3's and all movies are played withou sound - is there some codecs missing? how can i fix that?
[07:13] <durt> oh well, glxgears isnt that important
[07:13] <Madpilot> back later - real world interupt...
[07:13] <silverton> florg, yes, I don't think ubuntu ships with mp3 support
[07:14] <florg> silverton, how can i get mp3 support?
[07:14] <n00blar> florg, get xmms
[07:14] <florg> which packages etx
[07:14] <durt> !restricted
[07:14] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:14] <CompBrain> amd64 support seems to suck.
[07:14] <heliosh> so I remember in gnome there's a menu editor you can dl and install; If I remember correctly there is NO way to manually edit the ascii files that load the gnome menus correct?  anyone know?
[07:14] <n00blar> I apt-get xmms and I can play my mp3s
[07:15] <silverton> wow...  was ubotu written by the same person that did the one in #debian?
[07:15] <BlueEagle> n00blar: good for you.
[07:15] <silverton> CompBrain, probably better off with debian for that
[07:15] <omp> i still can't decide whether to get livecd or install cd of breezy
[07:16] <silverton> omp, get livecd to make sure your hardware works with it :P
[07:16] <florg> yes, xmms works. but i want rhythmbox to play my files and movies to have sound...
[07:16] <CompBrain> silverton: debian is worse off
[07:16] <CompBrain> at least ubuntu is using 2.6.12
[07:16] <silverton> florg, do what that link I sent you tells you to do
[07:16] <CompBrain> which supports dual core
[07:16] <omp> silverton: i guess i'll just get the livecd since i'm not switching to ubuntu anytime soon
[07:16] <silverton> CompBrain, use unstable then...
[07:16] <oolon> Madpilot, not sure what im doing in the game :)
[07:16] <ELpH95o> im using ubuntu 5.04
[07:17] <florg> thx
[07:17] <silverton> breezy == unstable
[07:17] <silverton> florg, get my link?
[07:18] <silverton> omp, I still haven't gotten a gentoo install to work correctly >.<  I feel so noobish
[07:18] <florg> yes
[07:18] <silverton> florg, good :)
[07:18] <BlueEagle> silverton: As long as you follow the instructions you should be ok to be honest.
[07:18] <Quequeg> is breezy/unstable == gentoo/testing Or gentoo/unstable?
[07:18] <BlueEagle> silverton: I still haven't gotten a gentoo install to _not_ work. :p
[07:19] <omp> silverton: it's very easy.. the install guide is VERY detailed
[07:19] <Dr_willis> breezy is working very well on  my Turion64 based laptop... Weee!
[07:19] <silverton> BlueEagle, heh, yeah, I do follow the instructions...  that I thought at least >.<
[07:19] <BlueEagle> quequeg: None of them afaik.
[07:19] <Quequeg> BlueEagle, that's not helpful.
[07:19] <omp> i like gentoo because it has good performance
[07:20] <omp> since you compile everything yourself
[07:20] <durt> heliosh, you might as well just add your apps to the menu from scratch, by hand
[07:20] <Dr_willis> omp,  i never saw that give me much of a gain
[07:20] <silverton> omp, in all honesty, it doesn't really make THAT much of a difference
[07:20] <Dr_willis> of course a mistake in your flags could make some things worse.. i guess as well.
[07:20] <omp> and my vid card performs a lot better in gentoo
[07:20] <heliosh> durt: I can't seem to hide what it's pulling in from gnome... although I suppose I could move or chmod/hide access to /usr/share/applications which is where gnome menu seems to get its data
[07:21] <Rotund> anyone here have a problem getting their airport to work?
[07:21] <BlueEagle> quequeg: One of my many trademarks. :)
[07:21] <durt> heliosh, you might have to restart the panel (i forget the command though)
[07:21] <nalioth> Rotund: airport extreme will not work under linux
[07:21] <Micksa> where to module cmdline options go?
[07:21] <Micksa> I need to pass one to psmouse
[07:21] <durt> or restart x
[07:21] <Micksa> I can add the module to /etc/modules I guess
[07:22] <nalioth> heliosh: open a terminal and type "killall gnome-panel" to restart your panel
[07:22] <Micksa> but like, can't you get hotplug to pass it? that'd be neater
[07:22] <silverton> durt, it's sudo killall gnome-panel
[07:22] <heliosh> nalioth: i'm in xfce4
[07:22] <durt> hes in xfce
[07:22] <silverton> ohh, okay
[07:22] <heliosh> be right back :-)
[07:22] <Rotund> nalioth: it is not an extreme
[07:22] <nalioth> heliosh: kill whatever your panel is
[07:23] <nalioth> Rotund: your airport should work ootb
[07:23] <Rotund> Should... yup
[07:23] <Rotund> I can't even get it to work w/ fiddling
[07:23] <Rotund> I think it may be choosing the incorrect firmware or something
[07:24] <Rotund> nalioth: It DOES work under OSX and I am POSITIVE it is the 11Mbps verison
[07:24] <Rotund> join #apple
[07:24] <Rotund> doh
[07:24] <durt> yeah nalioth, its xfc4-panel thankx
[07:25] <nalioth> Rotund: it has two ##
[07:25] <Rotund> yup
[07:25] <durt> any luck heliosh?
[07:26] <heliosh> hehe not yet
[07:26] <durt> oh and, heliosh, do you know how to turn off the system sounds and beeps?
[07:27] <heliosh> a total tangent to what I was doing, but you all reminded me somehow of it and I guess steady improvements although small make one happy in the longrun; no durt, I don't get beeps very often; hardly ever
[07:28] <durt> ok
[07:28] <durt> maybe ill just go delete some stuff
[07:29] <nomasteryoda|w> durt, as root
[07:29] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[07:30] <ngmlinux> anyone know any good sites that explain how to write Java (or C) programs that can read and right to serial ports?
[07:32] <yawgmoth7> Is anybody having a problem with apt-get install?
[07:33] <yawgmoth7> For some reason i cant install any of the packages
[07:33] <yawgmoth7> Like
[07:33] <yawgmoth7> Ill do
[07:33] <yawgmoth7> sudo apt-get install ethereal
[07:33] <yawgmoth7> And it says that isnt a package
[07:33] <yawgmoth7> And it says that ettercap isnt
[07:33] <yawgmoth7> And lots of differnet things
[07:33] <yawgmoth7> So im wondering if something has changed
[07:33] <chickboiec> hello all
[07:33] <durt> you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the commented repos
[07:34] <chickboiec> anybody uses wine?
[07:34] <robotgeek> not terribly busy here
[07:34] <BlueEagle> chickboiec: I've got it installed...
[07:34] <chickboiec> or winex
[07:34] <yawgmoth7> Ok
[07:34] <yawgmoth7> Thanks
[07:34] <yawgmoth7> Ill try
[07:34] <chickboiec> blue eagle, version 5.04?
[07:34] <durt> wine pisses me off
[07:35] <BlueEagle> chickboiec: I'll have to reboot to find out.
[07:35] <chickboiec> no
[07:35] <chickboiec> type uname
[07:35] <yawgmoth7> What is a repo
[07:36] <BlueEagle> chickboiec: ?
[07:36] <yawgmoth7> besides
[07:36] <chickboiec> nevermind
[07:36] <yawgmoth7> sources.list is read-only
[07:36] <chickboiec> go ahead tnx
[07:36] <BlueEagle> oh, you're thinking about ubuntu version. I thought you were talking about wine version.
[07:36] <BlueEagle> chickboiec: I've got breezy installed atm.
[07:36] <BlueEagle> yawgmoth7: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:36] <BlueEagle> yawgmoth7: you need to be super-user to modify it.
[07:37] <chickboiec> ah
[07:37] <chickboiec> ok what wine version
[07:37] <chickboiec> breezy is for?
[07:37] <chickboiec> didnt check man
[07:37] <chickboiec> sorry
[07:38] <durt> yawgmoth7: sudo gedit /apt/sources.list
[07:38] <durt> see the ubuntu wiki
[07:38] <edu---> can we play online games in ubuntu... such as ragnarok, mu and other rpg games
[07:38] <BlueEagle> chickboiec: Well, I'd need to rebott to find that out.
[07:38] <yawgmoth7> Thanks, im doing that rihgt now, and then i take out the # infront of the lines and stuff?
[07:38] <BlueEagle> chickboiec: uname on this box sais Linux terje 2.6.12-gentoo-r9 #1 Wed Aug 24 07:42:27 CEST 2005 i686 Pentium III (Coppermine) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux :p
[07:38] <yawgmoth7> Lines like:
[07:39] <yawgmoth7> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[07:39] <yawgmoth7> That stuff?
[07:39] <BlueEagle> !repos
[07:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[07:39] <durt> take that out of the lines that start with "deb" - yes
[07:39] <phempa> howdy pholks
[07:39] <BlueEagle> yawgmoth7: read that url ubotu coughed up.
[07:39] <yawgmoth7> Ok, im sorry, i really no nothing about linux
[07:39] <derek[] > Hi
[07:40] <derek[] > How debian is ubuntu?
[07:40] <phempa> quick question.... I accidentally removed what would be the equivalent to Window's system tray from the top right corner..... what can I do to get that back?
[07:40] <DjKritical> phempa, right cloick on the panel, and select add to panel
[07:41] <BlueEagle> derek[] : ubuntu is about as debian as java is c afaik
[07:41] <Myrtti> notification panel
[07:41] <phempa> hmm
[07:41] <Myrtti> notification area
[07:41] <phempa> I tried that, but it's not back
[07:41] <Myrtti> doh
[07:41] <durt> yeah ubuntu is slow as a monkey
[07:41] <DjKritical> derek[] , very similar, but also very different.... I'd say... debian is better for servers etc... and ubuntu is better as a desktop pc...
[07:42] <derek[] > hm
[07:42] <derek[] > why?
[07:42] <phempa> like, for Azureus's tray icon
[07:42] <Myrtti> phempa: right click on the panell, add to panel, notification area?
[07:42] <Joe41> why is it slow as a monkey?
[07:42] <phempa> tried that Myrtti
[07:42] <phempa> didnt do it
[07:42] <Myrtti> o.0
[07:42] <BlueEagle> durt: That was not what I tried to convey with that analogy.
[07:42] <DjKritical> durt: my ubuntu is ultra fast, you must have installed yours wrong or something
[07:42] <BlueEagle> derek[] : ubuntu is based on debian, so they are quite similar. However there are differences.
[07:42] <durt> slow as a lazy monkey then
[07:43] <durt> at least on my older comp
[07:43] <Kyral> Define old
[07:43] <Joe41> would you suggest anouter linux dist??
[07:43] <Kyral> Are we talking 5 years ago old
[07:43] <derek[] > BlueEagle, are the kernels diff.?
[07:43] <Kyral> or 10 years ago old
[07:43] <Kyral> and holy shit I should be going to bed
[07:43] <fmasi> Hi can some one tell me wy my downloads in synaptic are so slow
[07:43] <BlueEagle> derek[] : There are different patches in ubuntu than in debian afaik.
[07:44] <edu---> can we play online games in ubuntu... such as ragnarok, mu and other rpg games
[07:44] <Kyral> fmasi, is it a recent slowdown?
[07:44] <durt> arg - its quarter of 2
[07:44] <DjKritical> fmasi, you may have the wrong geographical location setyup for your pc
[07:44] <BlueEagle> fmasi: because you're not using your closest mirror?
[07:44] <Kyral> Anyway I'm going to bed
[07:44] <Kyral> no one start a flame war without me
[07:45] <BlueEagle> not sure which mirror is closest to brazil. Besides it's a big country. :)
[07:45] <jtan325> anyone here use breezy?
[07:45] <chickboiec> im having problems with dependencies
[07:45] <BlueEagle> jtan325: I've got it installed.
[07:45] <fmasi> I just istal ubuntu so very ew to it
[07:45] <jtan325> BlueEagle, where is sunj2re-1.5?
[07:45] <fmasi> i was i gentoo
[07:45] <jtan325> and w32codecs?
[07:46] <chickboiec> how is it going with breezy?
[07:46] <jtan325> or is there a "backports" for breezy
[07:46] <edu---> can we play online games in ubuntu... such as ragnarok, mu and other rpg games
[07:46] <jtan325> although that doesn't really make sense
[07:46] <chickboiec> can u install breezy right away?
[07:46] <durt> hoary backports
[07:46] <Kyral> jtan325, use the Haory Backports
[07:46] <p0windah> chickboiec: you sure can
[07:46] <BlueEagle> jtan325: Not sure. I haven't had use for either of those.
[07:46] <pauldaoust> hey, has anyone upgraded today and had a catastrophic failure?
[07:46] <jtan325> hmmm ok
[07:46] <pauldaoust> as in, snd-intel8x0 not existing in /etc/modules?
[07:46] <chickboiec> i mean winex or wine
[07:46] <derek[] > <BlueEagle> derek[] : There are different patches in ubuntu than in debian afaik.
[07:46] <derek[] > what patches?
[07:46] <pauldaoust> sorry, didn't mean to say /etc/modules
[07:46] <fmasi> I downloding stuf at max 17k normaly i do 32
[07:46] <pauldaoust> I meant to say that the module doesn't exit.
[07:47] <pauldaoust> exist
[07:47] <BlueEagle> derek[] : kernel patches.
[07:47] <derek[] > ok
[07:47] <Kyral> chickboiec, if you aren't prepared to get major **** ups in Breezy, don't do it. Its still in development
[07:47] <jtan325> Kyral, what?
[07:47] <chickboiec> ok
[07:47] <jtan325> it's not so bad
[07:47] <BlueEagle> derek[] : didn't you ask about kernel differences in debian and ubuntu?
[07:47] <chickboiec> i will stick with 5.04
[07:47] <durt> breezy has fewer cuff ups than hoary
[07:48] <chickboiec> i just have problems with using winetools
[07:48] <chickboiec> cant install it
[07:48] <Kyral> jtan325, Right now it seems like a lot of beginners have it in there heads that "I want the NEWEST!" and Breezy is technically the newest
[07:48] <chickboiec> forums says it has problems with the way the package is built
[07:48] <omp> this is killing me
[07:48] <Kyral> what they DON'T realize is that its also in development
[07:48] <jtan325> hehe
[07:49] <jtan325> i guess if you are a first-timer
[07:49] <omp> i install ubuntu, then gentoo, then ubuntu, then gentoo, etc.
[07:49] <Kyral> so even this late in the game showstopper bugs can kill you
[07:49] <chickboiec> kyral, dsl1 ring a bell?
[07:49] <omp> i'm having trouble deciding
[07:49] <omp> =[
[07:49] <durt> but breezy works better than hoary, development or not
[07:49] <BlueEagle> omp: Why don't you install both?
[07:49] <Kyral> chickboiec, wha....
[07:49] <Kyral> durt, but there are still killer bugs
[07:49] <omp> BlueEagle: what am i going to do with two? :)
[07:49] <Dr_willis> durt,  works better for me ;) on my Turion64 laptop!
[07:49] <chickboiec> the dsl1 at the last part of every package
[07:49] <ELpH95o> which version of ubuntu u using?
[07:49] <Kyral> the wha?
[07:49] <BlueEagle> durt: That depends on how you define "work better". Localization is not finished or nearly as good in .10 as it is in .04
[07:50] <chickboiec> 04
[07:50] <Kyral> I'm no package maintainer
[07:50] <BlueEagle> omp: Use the one you feel like using that particular day.
[07:50] <Kyral> and I REALLY have to go to bed
[07:50] <chickboiec> i mean i always get that package problem
[07:50] <durt> its friday night kyral, you dont need to go to bed
[07:50] <chickboiec> can ubuntu run wine?
[07:50] <durt> yes
[07:51] <BlueEagle> chickboiec: yes.
[07:51] <chickboiec> winetools?
[07:51] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:51] <Dr_willis> whats winetools ?
[07:51] <Dr_willis> >hic<
[07:51] <chickboiec> u use it after installing wine
[07:51] <chickboiec> i suppose
[07:51] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: tall glasses
[07:51] <Dr_willis> i never have :P
[07:51] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: like the stuff you use to enjoy wine.
[07:52] <chickboiec> lolz
[07:52] <Dr_willis> BlueEagle,  a cork puller? :P
[07:52] <omp> winetools is horrible
[07:52] <chickboiec> so what do u suggest?
[07:52] <omp> i just get wine, then use winesetuptk to configure it
[07:52] <Dr_willis> wine /foo/sol.exe
[07:52] <BlueEagle> dr_willis: No, no, no. That's bottleutils.deb
[07:52] <Dr_willis> what mor tools do ya need/
[07:52] <chickboiec> tnx
[07:52] <chickboiec> winesetuptk
[07:52] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:53] <omp> winetools is just a way of installing software in wine (probably made for noobs)
[07:53] <solidgroove> i did a ubuntu update and now I have no text in the buttons on installing of half-life2 with cedega
[07:54] <Dr_willis> hmmm
[07:54] <chickboiec> cedega aint free right\?
[07:54] <Dr_willis> not really :P
[07:54] <chickboiec> cvs?
[07:54] <Dr_willis> cedega-cvs is free
[07:54] <solidgroove> not cvs
[07:54] <chickboiec> cdga-cvs
[07:54] <Dr_willis> its worht supporting
[07:54] <Dr_willis> its cheap
[07:54] <K-Bay> Hmm... for some hellish reason after upgrading to Breezy, my sawfish has stopped displaying window titles. Moroever, xterm can't get right fonts running saying: unable to open font "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-140-75-75-c-90-iso8859-2", trying "fixed"....
[07:54] <solidgroove> but I dont have a membership to get a new version
[07:54] <solidgroove> and I have no text now I cant read the buttons
[07:54] <sproingie> argh.  has anyone successfully installed IE under wine cvs?
[07:55] <Dr_willis> sproingie,  Blasphmy!
[07:55] <durt> what are you smoking sproingie?
[07:55] <sproingie> believe it or not some people use wine
[07:55] <edu---> can we play online games in ubuntu... such as ragnarok, mu and other rpg games
[07:56] <Dr_willis> belive it or not. :P not everyone needs IE.
[07:56] <sproingie> i'm entirely too frustrated to listen to the highly novel notions of people that might actually hate windows, unbelievable as that might be
[07:56] <Dr_willis> i use wine to forget.....
[07:56] <edu---> can we play online games in ubuntu... such as ragnarok, mu and other rpg games
[07:56] <Dr_willis> i dont hate windows. :P just some of the idiotic things windows does.
[07:56] <durt> i dont hate windows, but why do you need IE?
[07:56] <BlueEagle> sproingie: it's ok to use wine. Also it's ok to install IE in wine as long as you do it because another app won't install without it. If you stall IE because you want to browse with it in wine that's sacrelige.
[07:56] <sproingie> durt: reasonable question.  so i can use all of picasa under wine
[07:56] <derek[] > does the apt-get work in Ubuntu?
[07:57] <Dr_willis> derek[] ,  errr yes.
[07:57] <chickboiec> yes
[07:57] <Dr_willis> :P
[07:57] <sproingie> durt: attempting to install the mozilla control is a complete loss.  i thought IE might be installable
[07:57] <BlueEagle> derek[] : Have you had a look at the ubuntu pages?
[07:57] <Dr_willis> ive had great luck with the mozilla controll feature and cedega
[07:57] <K-Bay> Heck I hate when fonts get messed on X ;-) It gets worse than Windows :P
[07:57] <sproingie> but apparently it only installs with special tools on specific versions released under the sign of mars on odd numbered thursdays
[07:58] <durt> theres probably some linux alternative to picasa
[07:58] <derek[] > BlueEagle, ubuntu's website?
[07:58] <chickboiec> blue, do u use wine to play nt games?
[07:58] <Dr_willis> and the eula has to be written goats blood also sproingie  dont forget
[07:58] <sproingie> durt: digikam, but frankly its editing controls suck
[07:58] <_rb_> is there actually a problem with the nvidia cards and 5.04 ?
[07:58] <derek[] > K-Bay, :/
[07:58] <jtan325> hmmmm
[07:59] <jtan325> i added hoary backports as specified in UbuntuBackports on the wiki
[07:59] <jtan325> (i'm using breezy)
[07:59] <silverton> How do I force eject a CD?
[07:59] <durt> what about gofoto, sproingie?
[07:59] <jtan325> but sun-jre-1.5 and azureus don't seem to be around
[07:59] <silverton> dennis@ghost:~$ eject /dev/hdc
[07:59] <silverton> eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[07:59] <sproingie> picasa has the "i'm feeling lucky" normalizing button, and when that's no good, it has backlight and neutral color detector
[07:59] <BlueEagle> derek[] : Yes. Browse stuff like documentation and how-tos and such.
[07:59] <derek[] > k
[07:59] <NiLz> hi
[07:59] <sproingie> absolutely NOTHING like that in any linux prog i've seen
[07:59] <NiLz> where's rc.local?
[08:00] <BlueEagle> derek[] : Very easy way to get answer to what you want to know. :)
[08:00] <florg> wow. everything perfect : ) thanks again
[08:00] <durt> sproingie, or f-spot
[08:00] <sproingie> guess i can try those.  fspot wasnt so good last i looked at it
[08:00] <sproingie> but that was a while ago
[08:01] <derek[] > :)
[08:01] <durt> i havent used any of them, so dont listen to me
[08:01] <derek[] > man.. I'm still not able to decide whether to go for debian or ubuntu
[08:02] <derek[] > I just don't want unnecessary stuff to install on my disk
[08:02] <derek[] > like KDE
[08:02] <derek[] > unnecessary and huge
[08:02] <uboontoo> Hey guys can someone tell me how to change the default ubuntu splash screen into one i just downloaded from gnome-look.org
[08:02] <tritium> derek[] , kde is not installed by default
[08:02] <derek[] > k tritium
[08:03] <jtan325> Kyral, how should i use the hoary backports?
[08:03] <Dr_willis> i just insalle kde :P
[08:03] <Dr_willis> lol
[08:03] <jtan325> i edited /etc/apt/source.list
[08:03] <BlueEagle> derek[] : Are you on dialup or very short for time?
[08:03] <derek[] > but it has gnome though?
[08:03] <jtan325> and did the update
[08:03] <jtan325> but i don't see any jre
[08:03] <derek[] > BlueEagle,  no :)
[08:03] <tritium> yes, derek[] 
[08:03] <BlueEagle> derek[] : Then try both and make up your own mind please.
[08:03] <derek[] > BlueEagle, well.. I'm on ADSL.. but my monthly bandwidth is limited to 1 GB
[08:04] <BlueEagle> derek[] : Well ubuntu ships CDs to you for free.
[08:04] <derek[] > BlueEagle, I've ordered them.. but they're taking time
[08:04] <silverton> :O  monthly bandwidth liumit???
[08:04] <silverton> I'd kill myself
[08:04] <sproingie> gofoto looks extremely primitive.  maybe f-stop
[08:04] <finite> BlueEagle, not asof right now they don't ship them
[08:04] <finite> no more til breezy, right?
[08:04] <derek[] > silverton, :/
[08:04] <synd> anyone wanna walk me thru mounting an NFS share?
[08:04] <BlueEagle> finite: That should have been noted on the site tbh.
[08:04] <sproingie> er fspot
[08:05] <silverton> derek[] , :O
[08:05] <derek[away] > brb
[08:05] <BlueEagle> synd: mounting or sharing?
[08:05] <tritium> silverton, that sounds like an addiction ;0
[08:05] <uboontoo> hey Synd, http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[08:05] <synd> BlueEagle: i need to mount a share
[08:05] <durt> my home directory is such a mess...
[08:05] <sproingie> tch.  nope, no decent editing in fspot either
[08:06] <omp> if i install ubuntu, will i be able to stop gdm from starting at boot? ( i want to have a text-based login and startx manually )
[08:06] <silverton> tritium, I'm just a downloading junkie
[08:06] <tritium> :)
[08:06] <sproingie> maybe i'll have better luck with cedega cvs instead of wine cvs
[08:06] <finite> question: is there an easy guide to setting up a network login system, such that my home directory is mounted over nfs? client and server can both be ubuntu
[08:06] <silverton> bittorrent is my friend :)
[08:06] <durt> sproingie: ok, get IE then - but why not edit with the gimp
[08:06] <finite> and ideally the auth would be done over the network too, with ldap unless there is something better
[08:07] <n00blar> nite everyone
[08:07] <tritium> finite, did you search the wiki?
[08:07] <sproingie> durt: it's a matter of doing trivial edits like rotate, redeye, fill light, with a responsive interface
[08:07] <sproingie> durt: i'm addicted to picasa on windows.  the alternative is for me to reboot to windows
[08:07] <finite> i found an ldap-auth guide but it skims over how the home directory is specified
[08:07] <synd> uboontoo: i said NFS, not NTFS
[08:08] <sproingie> durt: gimp is not suited for flipping between edit and browse with hundreds of photos
[08:08] <durt> there must be some good photo app out there
[08:08] <uboontoo> Synd, sorry misread ya
[08:08] <ohphracku> what if any services are enabled by default in the server installation?
[08:09] <sproingie> durt: i'm still waiting for one on linux
[08:09] <Turicas> how i can play more than 1 sound? eg: listening music in xmms while gaim plays a sound (msg received, etc..)
[08:09] <durt> sproingie, so picasa doesnt work with mozilla or opera?
[08:09] <uboontoo> I am browsing the /usr/share/pixmaps/splash folder and i see that ubuntu comes with alot of different splash images to use, how do i switch between them?
[08:10] <sproingie> durt: it embeds IE.  it's supposed to work with the mozilla activex control too, but wine just locks up when it tries to download it, and installing it manually fails
[08:10] <tritium> uboontoo, that's either an FAQ, or on the wiki
[08:10] <NiLz> how come there's no rc.local in ubuntu?
[08:10] <BlueEagle> synd: installed nfs-common?
[08:10] <NiLz> is there any other file used for the same purpouse?
[08:10] <uboontoo> well i looked there and couldnt find it so can someone just help me real fast if anyone knows?
[08:11] <edu---> can we play online games in ubuntu... such as ragnarok, mu and other rpg games
[08:11] <robotgeek> NiLz: take a look at "man update-rc.d"
[08:11] <sproingie> edu---: they probably work under wine
[08:11] <edu---> can anybody help me
[08:12] <haffe> The onlye thing I can think of is cedega.
[08:12] <durt> you must be asian - ragnarok...
[08:12] <NiLz> robotgeek: too complicated :(
[08:13] <robotgeek> NiLz: all you need to do is copy your script to /etc/init.d and do a sudo update-rc.d <scriptname> defaults
[08:13] <tritium> NiLz, if you prefer, edit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh, then
[08:16] <tritium> But, it's preferable to do as robotgeek suggests, Nakkel
[08:16] <tritium> NiLz,
[08:16] <haffe> Sigh.
[08:17] <haffe> Your a student if you have to read a book on complex analysis on Saturday morning.
[08:17] <tritium> You're even
[08:18] <durt> haffe what the hell is that?
[08:18] <tritium> haffe, Rudin?
[08:19] <chickboiec> hi
[08:19] <chickboiec> need help
[08:19] <derek[] > back
[08:19] <chickboiec> im trying to install freetype2 now
[08:19] <chickboiec> but i dont have a package...
[08:19] <chickboiec> it's just a zip file
[08:19] <haffe> tritium: Saff/Snider
[08:19] <chickboiec> with lots of files
[08:20] <tritium> haffe, ah, okay
[08:20] <haffe> durt: It's calculus with complex numbers.
[08:20] <chickboiec> do i need a make install?
[08:20] <chickboiec> please help
[08:20] <chickboiec> or do u have a better idea
[08:20] <tritium> chickboiec, there are freetype packages.  Which do you need?
[08:20] <chickboiec> the one for cedega
[08:20] <omp> is it really worth spending 4 hours downloading the breezy livecd...? =/
[08:20] <chickboiec> any links?
[08:20] <chickboiec> deb ubuntu
[08:21] <chickboiec> tritium, tnx for ur reply
[08:21] <tritium> !info libfreetype6
[08:21] <ubotu> libfreetype6: (FreeType 2 font engine, shared library files), section libs, is optional. Version: 2.1.7-2.3 (hoary), Packaged size: 354 kB, Installed size: 692 kB
[08:21] <chickboiec> wr can i get that
[08:21] <chickboiec> synaptic doesnt show freetype
[08:21] <durt> haffe: um... nasty
[08:21] <chickboiec> lib is ok?
[08:22] <chickboiec> i want to make sure all dependencies are met
[08:22] <chickboiec> before i install cedega
[08:22] <tritium> chickboiec, it's in the main repo.  just apt-get install it
[08:22] <chickboiec> ok
[08:22] <chickboiec> waht is the site?
[08:22] <nalioth> tritium: ya sneaky fella
[08:23] <chickboiec> deb http//.....
[08:23] <tritium> hey nalioth.  sneaky hobbitses?
[08:23] <chickboiec> or just typ apt-get
[08:23] <tritium> chickboiec, I would assume your sources.list is already setup?
[08:24] <nalioth> tritium: sneaky-hobbitses is my middle name
[08:24] <chickboiec> just a fresh install...
[08:24] <tritium> chickboiec, if that's the case, you can simply "sudo apt-get (or aptitude) install libfreetype6"
[08:24] <chickboiec> i need the rep
[08:24] <chickboiec> tnx
[08:25] <chickboiec> tnx
[08:25] <tritium> chickboiec, even a fresh install should have the main repo listed in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:25] <tritium> please double check
[08:25] <chickboiec> i dont need freetype2 anymore? i have libfreetype6 installed
[08:25] <tritium> nalioth, :)
[08:25] <chickboiec> tnx
[08:25] <chickboiec> i just wana make sure checklist is met
[08:25] <tritium> chickboiec, I don't know what cedega requires
[08:25] <chickboiec> it's on their site
[08:26] <chickboiec> tot freetype2 is diff from libfre..
[08:26] <tritium> chickboiec, try apt-cache search freetype2, then
[08:27] <tritium> chickboiec, in breezy, it's superseded by libttf2
[08:27] <Echelon-H> hi
[08:27] <Echelon-H> is there a torrent client where i can change the ports?
[08:27] <chickboiec> ok
[08:27] <derek[] > BlueEagle, wassup?
[08:28] <nalioth> Echelon-H: you can change it on all clients
[08:28] <BlueEagle> derek[] : working out mount syntax for nfs
[08:28] <Echelon-H> couldn't figure it out on gnome-bittorent
[08:29] <BlueEagle> synd: sudo mount -t nfs servername:/path/to/share/ /path/to/local/mountpoint
[08:29] <nalioth> Echelon-H: have a party http://www.dessent.net/btfaq/cmdline.shtml
[08:29] <tritium> chickboiec, packages.ubuntu.com might be useful to you too
[08:29] <BlueEagle> synd: /path/to/share is defined in /etc/exports of the server.
[08:30] <synd> BlueEagle: alright, thanks
[08:30] <synd> BlueEagle: do i have to create a mount point first?
[08:32] <jakelo> I'm getting the message "connect (99 Cannot assign requested address)" when using apt-get and wget.  Anyone know how I would resolve this?
[08:33] <Echelon-H> nalioth, i get errors when im trying to use minport maxport
[08:34] <BlueEagle> synd: always
[08:35] <ngranado> hello all
[08:35] <robotgeek> ngranado: hi
[08:36] <ngranado> how do I reconfigure my xserver config again?
[08:36] <tritium> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:36] <robotgeek> ngranado: do that
[08:36] <derek_> hi
[08:36] <robotgeek> tritium: too fast
[08:36] <tritium> robotgeek, :)
[08:36] <ngranado> tritium: thanks
[08:36] <GullyFoyle> reconfigure - again... redundant
[08:36] <Strife> hey, has anyone used dcgui at all?
[08:36] <tritium> no problem, ngranado
[08:36] <derek_> is there a way to not install gnome during ubuntu installation?
[08:37] <tritium> derek_, server install
[08:37] <derek_> and install some other windowing environment?
[08:37] <Strife> but gnome is awesome!
[08:37] <Strife> heh
[08:37] <tritium> install win. env. of your choice after server install
[08:37] <Strife> I remember gnome from back in the 1.x days
[08:37] <Strife> man was that ugly
[08:37] <finite> derek[] , http://www.binonabiso.com/en/Ubuntu-miniRAM-HOWTO.html
[08:38] <GullyFoyle> i prefer a speedy wm like fluxbox
[08:38] <Strife> it's come a long way since then
[08:38] <Strife> but I digress
[08:38] <derek_> GullyFoyle, me too
[08:38] <ngranado> it says xserver-xorg is broken or not really installed
[08:38] <Strife> I downloaded dc_gui a while ago
[08:38] <Strife> and I have no idea how to actually find/connect to hubs
[08:38] <derek_> brb
[08:38] <Strife> the lack of documentation certainly doesn't help
[08:39] <robotgeek> ngranado: are u on warty?
[08:39] <ngranado> no
[08:39] <ngranado> breezy
[08:39] <ngranado> nm I think i got it
[08:39] <ngranado> i just did a apt-get -f install
[08:40] <haffe> When do you thing X11R7 will be released?
[08:40] <Echelon-H> can anyone recommand on a good BT client?
[08:41] <haffe> btdownloadcurses is quite popular.
[08:41] <oolon> azureus is java based
[08:41] <robotgeek> Echelon-H: same , with screen
[08:41] <ngranado> Echelon-H: Bit Torrent or bluetooth?
[08:42] <ngranado> Echelon-H: i guess since there's not bluetooth clients
[08:42] <ngranado> that bit torrent is what you are asking about
[08:42] <finite> Azureus has cool graphics but the Gnome client that is preinstalled with hoary works just as well
[08:42] <apsync> hi, I have 1 partition on my HD, can I install ubuntu + keep windows on 1 partition ?
[08:42] <Strife> apsync: of course
[08:42] <apsync> ah, Ok
[08:42] <jtan325> ngranado, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:43] <Strife> so no one has used dc_gui?
[08:43] <jtan325> breezy rocks the socks
[08:43] <solidgroove> anyone use cedega and after updating ubuntu cedega doesnt display fonts on buttons on installations in cedega
[08:43] <hondje> someone should add an http:// before the breezy upgrade link in the topic
[08:43] <chavo> solidgroove, cedega works fine here
[08:43] <GullyFoyle> yeah i had probs with X til i realized i had to disable that kernel frmebuffer crap
[08:43] <Strife> jtan325: not when I tried to upgrade to it a couple of months ago :P
[08:44] <jtan325> hehe
[08:44] <Strife> I'm (mostly) satisfied with simply using backports for now
[08:44] <jtan325> i'm fresh off the preview install
[08:44] <Strife> there are a few other annoyances
[08:44] <solidgroove> chavo, I think im missing a library or something, can I send you a screenshot what it looks like
[08:44] <Strife> like not being able to compile NetworkManager
[08:44] <Strife> but I can wait till Breezy officially comes out
[08:44] <tritium> better, hondje ?
[08:44] <hondje> tritium: Much, thanks :)
[08:44] <chavo> solidgroove, sure
[08:44] <tritium> :)
[08:44] <BlueEagle> solidgroove: I would guess that you're missing a font.
[08:44] <user_> bob2, you there?
[08:45] <hondje> any gotchas with breezy, or is it safe for an experienced user?
[08:45] <solidgroove> I have tahoma installed in .transgaming_local/Fonts
[08:45] <chavo> solidgroove, I don't think my firewall will let me dcc
[08:45] <user_> bob2, you there? i need help
[08:45] <khermans> is there anything like ObjectDock in Linux?
[08:45] <user_> anyone?
[08:45] <Strife> anyone used skippy or skippy-xd at all>?
[08:45] <tritium> user_, please ask the channel
[08:45] <jtan325> user_, just ask
[08:45] <BlueEagle> solidgroove: did you try to got trough the fonts section of ubuntuguide.com?
[08:45] <Echelon-H> how can I dir only files starting with the letter b?
[08:45] <chavo> khermans, there are some similar apps
[08:45] <robotgeek> khermans: what's objecy doc?
[08:46] <Strife> because it seems that skippy-xd is ungodly slow
[08:46] <user_> ok...
[08:46] <GullyFoyle> hey any of you geeks prefer onboard sound or a card? i've heard a card works better and if you have one just disable the onboard sound on yer mobo.
[08:46] <khermans> chavo, like?
[08:46] <robotgeek> khermans: what's objectdock?
[08:46] <BlueEagle> solidgroove: Something like sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts or sudo apt-get install gsfonts-x11?
[08:46] <Strife> GullyFoyle: I'm all about the SBLive
[08:46] <khermans> robotgeek, mimics the OS X hidden toolbar with icons for starting programs
[08:46] <Strife> years old, but still awesome
[08:46] <Strife> WAY outperforms my laptop's builtin sound
[08:46] <BlueEagle> solidgroove: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrafonts might help.
[08:46] <robotgeek> khermans: there's the similiar bar in gdesklets, i think
[08:46] <Strife> hondje: my laptop has weird issues... like if I'm playing music, all other sounds play delayed
[08:47] <khermans> robotgeek, yeah but that doesnt actually seem to be dockable
[08:47] <user_> i already change the root password but when i trty to log in with the root account ubuntu says "admin can't login here..."
[08:47] <GullyFoyle> Strife: I have an Sb but i dont use it cuz of the AC97 on my mobo. ya think i should pop it in?
[08:47] <hondje> Strife: hrm...I get something 'like' that, with xine and tvout on my nv card
[08:47] <khermans> it only puts the stuff on the desktop background
[08:47] <robotgeek> khermans: hmm, no idea..don't use it
[08:47] <hondje> the audio gets out of sync, and I have to pause it to resync it
[08:47] <user_> any idea why?
[08:47] <tritium> user_, gdm?
[08:47] <BlueEagle> user_: Do you really _have_to_ log in as root?
[08:47] <khermans> so there is no dockable Linux app launcher like ObjectDock?
[08:47] <chavo> khermans, there's kxdocker, engage and some themes for superkaramba or gDesklets
[08:47] <Madpilot> user_: have you read wikie.ubuntu.com/RootSudo?
[08:47] <robotgeek> hondje: rhythmbox?
[08:47] <Madpilot> *wiki.ubuntu.com/etc, sorry
[08:47] <hondje> robotgeek: xine
[08:48] <Strife> GullyFoyle: if you aren't using the SBLive for anything else... yes
[08:48] <robotgeek> hondje: i meant, do u get that on rhythmbox too?
[08:48] <Strife> GullyFoyle: but only because I <3 SBLive
[08:48] <tritium> user_, if you're referring to gdm login, you have to configure it to allow root logins
[08:48] <chavo> khermans, I never tried them though, the dock is a UI disaster
[08:48] <hondje> robotgeek: I don't know how I'd check that, since there's no pictures for it to sync against
[08:48] <khermans> chavo, kxdocker seems to be only kde
[08:49] <chavo> khermans, are you looking for something with icon zooming, like OSX?
[08:49] <khermans> id rather not grab the kdelibs if i dont have to
[08:49] <khermans> yeah
[08:49] <chavo> yuck
[08:49] <robotgeek> hondje: sorry, kinda misunderstood. thanks
[08:49] <user_> ya, i need to setup a workgroup ("kindalike the MS")
[08:49] <BlueEagle> solidgroove: Did I ask to get a screenie from you?
[08:49] <khermans> why?
[08:49] <hondje> :)
[08:49] <chavo> I don't know of any others
[08:49] <user_> the link seems to be dead...
[08:49] <khermans> chavo, i think that looks pretty good - but kde, eww
[08:49] <solidgroove> BlueEagle, no
[08:49] <BlueEagle> solidgroove: Then why are you sending one to me?
[08:50] <GullyFoyle> i have a cool launcher on my my flux setup on my yoper partition but i forget what it's called. you mouse over it and it extrudes any number of little squares with configurable icons, works great
[08:50] <Madpilot> user_: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo - typo in the first one...
[08:50] <robotgeek> this seems like something out of pulp fiction :)
[08:50] <louisjohn> are u kdding me
[08:50] <louisjohn> 22/m/fl
[08:50] <louisjohn> wassup
[08:50] <louisjohn> bb
[08:50] <louisjohn> coffee
[08:50] <robotgeek> louisjohn: we don't do that here in #ubuntu
[08:51] <ohphracku> lol
[08:51] <robertbb> Anyone here tried the banshee music player for gnome?
[08:51] <chavo> hehe
[08:51] <BlueEagle> Someone should tell louisjohn that he's tying in the wrong window.
[08:51] <BlueEagle> ...or maybe not.
[08:51] <Strife> so nobody has used dc_gui?
[08:51] <robotgeek> louisjohn: use #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:51] <Strife> because I'm finding it really ridiculous that I have no idea how to even get it to list hubs, let alone actually connect to anything
[08:51] <Madpilot> !info dc_gui
[08:51] <jtan325> hehe i gave up on dc++ a long time ago
[08:51] <jtan325> i just use bittorrent
[08:52] <user_> another question: i can ping another pc in my LAN but the network server only shows the WIndows Network
[08:52] <Strife> jtan325: pssht, when I'm on campus with the lappy I'm better off using DC
[08:52] <BlueEagle> after 070105 downloading copyrighted music became illegal here.
[08:52] <Strife> user_: with the `ping' command
[08:52] <jakelo> jtan325, where are you getting your torrents from?
[08:52] <BlueEagle> 050701
[08:52] <Strife> BlueEagle: who said anything about downloading music?
[08:52] <jtan325> yea
[08:52] <jtan325> i download azureus updates via torrents
[08:53] <jtan325> or anime
[08:53] <BlueEagle> strife: Well, downloading programs has been illegal here for years. :p
[08:53] <Strife> believe it or not, I actually download things that are legal
[08:53] <nalioth> finding torrents can be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:53] <BlueEagle> strife: Movies also became illegal to download with the new law tbh.
[08:53] <Strife> BlueEagle: actually, downloading free, open source programs is perfectly 100% legal
[08:53] <user_> no, from the Places-->Network Servers
[08:53] <GullyFoyle> i just "borrow" a digital version of the song for evaluation purposes
[08:53] <Ice9> is there a way to have gaim auto-accept file transfers?
[08:54] <tritium> GullyFoyle, not here, please
[08:54] <GullyFoyle> what's wrong with that?
[08:54] <Strife> BlueEagle: (A) I'm not downloading movies, (B) It was always illegal to pirate, and (C) There wasn't a `new law,' but rather a Supreme Court case that says that software companies may be held liable for what their users do with the software
[08:54] <nalioth> p2p/torrent talk in #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[08:54] <jakelo> I'm getting the message "connect (99 Cannot assign requested address)" when using apt-get and wget.  Anyone know how I would resolve this?
[08:54] <derek_> does anyone know if its possible to install the iso directly off the hdd?
[08:54] <BlueEagle> strife: It was not illegal to d/l copyrighted music before 050701. Then again I'm in Norway.
[08:54] <derek_> my cd writer isn't working
[08:54] <nalioth> derek_: possible but not easy
[08:54] <hondje> derek_: yeah, but it's a PITA
[08:55] <Strife> BlueEagle: Norway. Check.
[08:55] <derek_> :/
[08:55] <BlueEagle> derek_: What is wrong with it?
[08:55] <derek_> it doesn't burn
[08:55] <GullyFoyle> can gun companies be held liable for waht people do with guns?
[08:55] <derek_> it doesn't read
[08:55] <BlueEagle> derek_: Did you check the power supply?
[08:55] <derek_> its borked
[08:55] <Strife> BlueEagle: I apologize for my American everyone's-in-the-US attitude
[08:55] <nalioth> GullyFoyle: -offtopic, please
[08:55] <derek_> lol sure
[08:55] <derek_> the tray opens
[08:55] <robotgeek> GullyFoyle,Strife,BlueEagle : #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:55] <sproingie> grrARGH.  wine is driving me to drink
[08:55] <BlueEagle> strife: No worries. I'm used to it.
[08:55] <Strife> heh
[08:56] <BlueEagle> derek_: Did you check the signal cable?
[08:56] <apsync> I want to install ubuntu on the same partition as windows, do I need more software/utilities for this? some say you have to use shrink and some don't
[08:56] <Strife> what's wrong with making a new partition?
[08:56] <tritium> apsync, they need to be on separate partitions
[08:56] <BlueEagle> apsync: Are you sure you want to do that? You might think you want to do that but I bet you really don't want to do that.
[08:56] <apsync> oh hmm..
[08:57] <apsync> then, can I install ubuntu on my slave hd?
[08:57] <haffe> Yes.
[08:57] <derek_> BlueEagle, ?
[08:57] <BlueEagle> apsync: no problem at all.
[08:57] <_rb_> yep. just make the slave hd the active
[08:57] <apsync> ah great
[08:57] <BlueEagle> derek_: ?
[08:57] <derek_> what signal cable?
[08:57] <Strife> well anyway...
[08:57] <derek_> i got this writer repaired once
[08:57] <Strife> I don't even remember why I turned on my laptop in the first place
[08:57] <Strife> so... later
[08:57] <derek_> it worked for some time.. now not
[08:57] <BlueEagle> derek_: ide cable if it's an atapi burner. scsi cable if it's a scsi burner, sata cable if it's a sata burner.
[08:58] <derek_> ide
[08:58] <BlueEagle> derek_: the cable which makes the signal go from the motherboard to the burner.
[08:58] <haffe> Are there any satacdburners?
[08:58] <_rb_> cept that prick windows will need to be installed before ubuntu coz it'll lie about being able to change back which partition is active once windows is installed.
[08:58] <BlueEagle> (ie signal cable)
[08:58] <Madpilot> haffe: a couple, yes
[08:58] <louisjohn> what are u kidding me
[08:59] <derek_> aw
[08:59] <tritium> no, not kidding, louisjohn
[08:59] <_rb_> went thru that one a lot trying to get ubuntu and windows on the same machine, and then installing nvidia. Which, i must say, is absolutely crap in linux.
[08:59] <user_> anyone?
[09:00] <_rb_> huh ?
[09:00] <tritium> _rb_, nvidia works pretty well in ubuntu, I'd say
[09:00] <derek_> huh?
[09:00] <derek_> nvidia is crap in linux?
[09:00] <s4f3_m0d3> i feel like a missed something....
[09:00] <derek_> doesn't nvidia geforce work to its fullest in linux as it does in windows?
[09:01] <s4f3_m0d3> derek_, one wold imagine
[09:01] <s4f3_m0d3> would*
[09:01] <_rb_> i'd have thought so, but i've never been able to get the stupid thing working without constant segmentation faults and then fake happyness ( installs, runs fine, but when you reboot ... )
[09:01] <derek_> :(((((((
[09:01] <ngranado> damn that didn't seem to work
[09:01] <s4f3_m0d3> _rb_, did you reconfigure X after the driver install?
[09:01] <ngranado> did fglrx get changed or something?
[09:01] <_rb_> xconf ?
[09:01] <s4f3_m0d3> because i've never had any problems with it
[09:01] <_rb_> yeah
[09:01] <ngranado> nods
[09:01] <s4f3_m0d3> _rb_, no, i mean the dpkg thing
[09:01] <s4f3_m0d3> with x
[09:01] <_rb_> nvidia-glx-config enable always roots the damn thing
[09:01] <tritium> _rb_, did you completely follow the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto?
[09:02] <s4f3_m0d3> i don't remember the exact command
[09:02] <Snutt> Script to get other partitions like FAT32 and NTFS?
[09:02] <_rb_> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ? yeah, then nvidia screws it
[09:02] <_rb_> snutt, search for it on google. its on the unofficial ubuntu guide.
[09:02] <brenner> _rb_, hoary runs xorg
[09:02] <tritium> no, that's not typical behavior
[09:03] <Snutt> Thank _rb_
[09:03] <Snutt> +s
[09:03] <derek_> damn
[09:03] <derek_> I need to talk to a group of graphic designers who work on a linux platform
[09:03] <tritium> good night #ubuntu
[09:03] <_rb_> yeah, something like that. /etc/X11/something
[09:03] <brenner> Snutt, don't use th guide
[09:03] <_rb_> got pissed at it and decided well, i'll just use windows xp for games
[09:04] <_rb_> whats wrong with the guide ?
[09:04] <Snutt> Any suggestions brenner
[09:04] <derek_> _rb_, I have to use it for my work (I'll be using blender3d)
[09:04] <brenner> Snutt, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[09:04] <_rb_> i use blender3d
[09:04] <derek_> _rb_, cool. you a modeller?
[09:04] <Snutt> Thank, jsut what I looked for!
[09:04] <_rb_> it might not look photorealistic
[09:04] <_rb_> but it works
[09:05] <israel> stekios?
[09:05] <_rb_> yeah. but only just recently discovered blender in linux. touched it once years ago. wasn't impressed back then.
[09:05] <_rb_> lightwave user here
[09:05] <ngranado> _rb_: ?
[09:05] <_rb_> before that 3dstudio, before that simply3d.
[09:06] <_rb_> blender seems like its very capable, but i've gotta learn it, which is what started all my problems.
[09:06] <derek_> I used 3dstudio
[09:06] <derek_> but I'm migrating to open source totally
[09:06] <derek_> (license problems)
[09:06] <_rb_> wish i could. still love my games
[09:06] <derek_> :)
[09:06] <s4f3_m0d3> _rb_, cedega might work
[09:06] <_rb_> so thats all xp is on my machine for. hate the feckin thing
[09:07] <_rb_> cedega ?
[09:07] <s4f3_m0d3> google
[09:07] <s4f3_m0d3> :D
[09:07] <derek_> I've heard about cedega
[09:07] <_rb_> is it a 3d thing ?
[09:07] <s4f3_m0d3> no
[09:07] <derek_> its a game thing
[09:07] <s4f3_m0d3> it lets you run windows games on linux
[09:07] <_rb_> ah
[09:07] <ngranado> someone said something about nvidia someting a rather
[09:07] <__filip_> i have write this in fstab /dev/hda6 /media/hda6 vfat rw,user,defaults 0 0 but i cant write in hda6, what to do?
[09:07] <_rb_> yeah, well, nvidia dont work on my ubuntu, so games i play would be pointless without it
[09:08] <ohphracku> what card _rb_
[09:08] <ohphracku> ?
[09:08] <brenner> _rb_: in general the wiki or this channel is the best source of information....the major sore point of the guide is it's lack of explanations
[09:08] <_rb_> geforce ti500
[09:08] <_rb_> gf3
[09:08] <ohphracku> that should work
[09:08] <nalioth> Filbert: after 'user' put "umask=000"
[09:09] <nalioth> __filip_:  after 'user' put "umask=000"
[09:09] <_rb_> i know it should work, but i've tried about 8 different nvidia builds, kernel headers etc, and it refuses to run without issues. really annoying
[09:09] <__filip_> nalioth: should i delete defaults?
[09:09] <nalioth> __filip_: yes
[09:09] <ngranado> _rb_: help!!!
[09:09] <__filip_> okej
[09:10] <ngranado> ls -al
[09:10] <ngranado> ls -al
[09:10] <_rb_> sup ?
[09:10] <ohphracku> that sucks
[09:10] <_rb_> about nvidia ?
[09:10] <ohphracku> yea
[09:10] <_rb_> yeah. big time
[09:10] <zorba64> _rb_: yeah i can relate, i have a fx5200, linux wont even boot with it...they hit the hotplugging then segfault
[09:11] <ngranado> ls
[09:11] <ngranado> _rb_: yes
[09:11] <ngranado> _rb_: no
[09:11] <ngranado> _rb_: nm, i'm talking about fglrx
[09:11] <derek_> so nvidia geforce fx is not good for linux?
[09:11] <silverton> I have an fx5200
[09:12] <zorba64> derek_: not all anyway
[09:12] <_rb_> yeah. well, i get past hotplugging, the real issue is there is no money in linux drivers for them so they dont cae enough to make sure they work. very microsoft of them i think.
[09:12] <silverton> derek_, nvidia has better support for *nix then ati is
[09:12] <derek_> zorba64, what doy ou mean?
[09:12] <derek_> silverton, I see
[09:12] <_rb_> i dont know about the fx series.
[09:12] <_rb_> usually, ive found the older cards are better supported.
[09:12] <zorba64> derek_:  well some work and some dont
[09:12] <ohphracku> damn micro$0ft
[09:12] <derek_> :/
[09:12] <silverton> my fx does pretty damn well...
[09:13] <_rb_> this coming from someone who swapped a gf3 for a 9800xt so i could make the move from windows
[09:13] <derek_> wish there was an open source hardware manufacturing unit in the world
[09:13] <_rb_> there is for most stuff. just not high end 3d
[09:13] <hondje> opencore
[09:13] <derek_> silverton, in linux?
[09:13] <ohphracku> no shi* huh
[09:13] <ohphracku> open everything!
[09:13] <ohphracku> weeeee
[09:13] <derek_> open everything!!
[09:13] <ohphracku> jk :P
[09:14] <silverton> derek_, yes
[09:14] <ohphracku> yup yup
[09:14] <silverton> though, not as well in ubuntu as it does in debian
[09:14] <derek_> silverton, okay. I'm going to buy a new card. Which model should I go for? i'll be using it in linux
[09:14] <derek_> ohh
[09:14] <derek_> :/
[09:14] <ohphracku> ati works great for me
[09:14] <silverton> I think it might be the fact that ubuntu uses xorg whereas debian testing uses xfree86
[09:14] <ngranado> derek_: i've had no problems with Nvidia
[09:14] <ohphracku> the firegl models
[09:14] <sedat> lo all
[09:15] <derek_> ngranado, fx series?
[09:15] <sedat> need some help troubleshooting
[09:15] <ngranado> derek_: yes
[09:15] <silverton> derek_, if you're on a budget, I'd go for an FX5500 or 5700
[09:15] <derek_> k
[09:15] <_rb_> went through a pile of distros trying to get the nvidia working actually, knoppix, morphix, mandrake, suse, debian. just like ubuntu best, thats all
[09:15] <silverton> but, if you have money to burn, go for a nice 6800 or 7XXX card
[09:15] <zorba64> derek_: mine is a weird setup...asrock mini atx
[09:15] <derek_> silverton, ok.. and its perfectly linux compatible?
[09:15] <ohphracku>  blender & my firegl9600 was smooth
[09:15] <silverton> derek_, yes...
[09:15] <derek_> silverton, you run both ubuntu and debian?
[09:15] <Scholar_Gypsy> hi, by mistake i have deleted the /var/www/ folder. how do i get my webserver running again?
[09:15] <silverton> derek_, yes
[09:16] <derek_> why? :)
[09:16] <zorba64> derek_: it need drivers so that winxp nows its a agp slot and not a pci slot
[09:16] <silverton> why not? :)
[09:16] <_rb_> ubuntu is pretty much the same thing, with more nice things
[09:16] <silverton> _rb_, ubuntu is bit more user friendly
[09:16] <_rb_> as i said. nice things.
[09:16] <silverton> :P
[09:16] <silverton> But, my home is still on debian
[09:16] <derek_> zorba64, well wht if you're not using win
[09:16] <ohphracku> i like ubuntu but dont like the attitude of others sayin "oh you newb u use ubuntu"
[09:17] <_rb_> prolly almost ready to get a more difficult one, but what the hell. I'll just use it for the stuff i do. programming web stuff and 3d work
[09:17] <silverton> my webserver runs debian, while my desktop uses  ubuntu
[09:17] <derek_> ohphracku, lol
[09:17] <kapil> Scholar_Gypsy: try creating the directory /var/www
[09:17] <p0windah> Scholar_Gypsy: create it again or dpkg-reconfigure apache2
[09:17] <_rb_> pissed me off that there is no linux version of flash
[09:17] <silverton> ohphracku, no wayz!  that's what people say about mandrake...  er mandriva
[09:17] <p0windah> or whatever your webserver is..
[09:17] <zorba64> derek_: the card sits there gathering dust, i use the integrated intel in ubuntu
[09:17] <silverton> _rb_, the flash plugin?
[09:17] <_rb_> mandriva is a huge bunch of donkey
[09:17] <ohphracku> my ubutnu is totally different that the stock distro
 pissed me off that there is no linux version of flash
[09:18] <silverton> _rb_, it's nice for people making the switch from windows to  linux
[09:18] <derek_> _rb_, I found a list of them
[09:18] <zorba64> derek_: mind you freebsd has no probs with the card, jut about a dozen linux distros i have tried
[09:18] <derek_> silverton, yes, but very very hard for graphic designers :(((
[09:18] <_rb_> nah, the flash pluggin worked...in konqueror. mozilla said piss off to auto install, and macromedia said piss off to the directory firefox was in. but no, the actual designer software for it
[09:18] <silverton> derek_, eh?
[09:18] <derek_> _rb_, not the plugin
[09:18] <ohphracku> every distro is lame out the box but thats what its about tuning, tweakin, to your tastes
[09:18] <derek_> silverton, migration from windoze to nix
[09:19] <derek_> _rb_, let me give you the links
[09:19] <silverton> derek_, a graphic designer shouldn't be using windows or linux in the first place
[09:19] <_rb_> and the flash pluggin is poked in my system anyway. gotta use explicit sizing, which sucks. konqueror dont liek the exact fit or percentages
[09:19] <derek_> although all these programs are in a very elementary stages of dev.
[09:19] <silverton> that's where the mac and OSX come in
[09:19] <derek_> https://sourceforge.net/projects/qflash/
[09:19] <ngranado> ls
[09:19] <_rb_> um, no its not, and kill whoever told you that. osx is the biggest pile of crap ever made besides windows 3.1
[09:19] <hondje> a graphic designer should use whatever works for him the best
[09:19] <derek_> http://sourceforge.net/projects/f4l/
[09:19] <ngranado> exit
[09:20] <derek_> http://osflash.org/
[09:20] <Kuolio> :D
[09:20] <Scholar_Gypsy> thx p0windah , kapil
[09:20] <ohphracku> anyone tried opensolaris yet
[09:20] <ohphracku> or whatever they call it
[09:20] <_rb_> a graphic designer should use linux ( if it had all the tools ) but can use xp very niceley. they just cant allow it to talk on the internet
[09:20] <derek_> silverton, if I can't afford windoze.. its out of question to go for mac
[09:20] <derek_> _rb_, my only problem is the licensing
[09:20] <silverton> tssht...  anyone with an internet connection can afford windows >.<
[09:21] <derek_> i gotta keep my work legal
[09:21] <_rb_> they recently tried a port of osx onto a pc. kicked the sheet out of mac speeds
[09:21] <silverton> keep the work legal, the OS doesn't matter
[09:21] <_rb_> got any work on the web derek ?
[09:21] <derek_> silverton, it does
[09:21] <silverton> _rb_, that's an on going project...  especially since apple is moving to intel processors
[09:21] <DansFloyd> i need help installing Realplayer...
[09:21] <sedat> anybody knows something about operamotifwrapper?
[09:21] <derek_> _rb_, yeh. http://derek.vnvsoft.com/
[09:21] <_rb_> does if you get audited silverton
[09:21] <derek_> i had derekz.com ..lost it, coz had no cc to make an online payment
[09:22] <nalioth> !tell DansFloyd about restricted
[09:22] <hondje> If people are to respect the GPL, then we have to respect MS's licenses
[09:22] <zorba64> !restricted
[09:22] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:22] <p0windah> hondje: I think you mean "abide"
[09:22] <DansFloyd> restricted?
[09:22] <nalioth> DansFloyd: read the page
[09:22] <hondje> No, respect
[09:22] <nalioth> DansFloyd: near the bottom it covers realplayer
[09:22] <hondje> They have a right to license their work as they see fit
[09:23] <_rb_> and osx sucks anyway. too tied up
[09:23] <_rb_> bbs. going to freak out my machine
[09:23] <derek_> k
[09:23] <derek_> later
[09:23] <derek_> so I should safely buy a geforce fx 5200?
[09:24] <silverton> derek_, personally, I'd go with a 5500 or a 5700
[09:24] <silverton> I'm going to upgrade mine soon
[09:24] <derek_> ok
[09:24] <silverton> I regret buying mine :(
[09:24] <derek_> my mobo has s3 prosavage
[09:24] <JustSteve> i had a 5200 it was okay, but for the same price you can usually get something better anymore
[09:24] <silverton> don't buy one that is done by rosewill
[09:24] <DansFloyd> says its available in hoary-extras
[09:24] <JustSteve> derek_ what is your price range?
[09:25] <derek_> rosewill?
[09:25] <hondje> I have a 5200, it seems to work fine
[09:25] <silverton> derek_, rosewill is a manufactorer
[09:25] <nalioth> !tell DansFloyd about sources
[09:25] <silverton> since nvidia don't make their own cards, just the chips
[09:25] <Carpe_Libertatem> My videocard has dual-monitor capabilities - how can I enable that in Ubuntu?
[09:25] <silverton> xinerama?
[09:25] <derek_> oh
[09:25] <derek_> they don't make the cards?
[09:25] <derek_> who makes the cards?
[09:26] <silverton> nope, just develop the chips, I believe it lowers the cost of the cards overall
[09:26] <silverton> derek_, anyone... rofl
[09:26] <derek_> :)
[09:26] <hondje> lots of people...mine came from taiwan :)
[09:26] <JustSteve> nvidia is a chip maker, not a manufacturer, there are no nvidia cards made by nvidia
[09:26] <silverton> many companies make the nvidia cards
[09:26] <derek_> prolly china must be making some now too
[09:27] <user_> *** how to setup workgrgoup in linux(ubuntu)?***
[09:27] <derek_> JustSteve, about 136.877 USD
[09:27] <redapocolypse> esd doesnt work how do i fix it?
[09:27] <derek_> about 135 USD
[09:28] <zeeble> hi. just installed ubuntu 5.10 preview... how do i get gkrellm? tried apt-cache search for gkrellm but no results
[09:29] <silverton> that's the one I'd buy
[09:29] <user_> *** how to setup workgrgoup in linux(ubuntu)? anyone? ***
[09:29] <JustSteve> derek_ about 120-150 US should get you a 66oo which is TONS better than a 5200
[09:29] <Toma-> user_: google
[09:29] <derek_> JustSteve, ok. But also, I want a card with atleast 256 MB
[09:30] <ned_> ! yeah .. so many people ! i just upgraded to breezy, with 2.6.12 kernel, i need to compile something, and i can't find the "kernel-source-2.6.12" package ...?
[09:30] <ubotu> ned_: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[09:30] <JustSteve> they have nvidia 6600 non-GTs with 256
[09:30] <silverton> zeeble, you have the "universe" repository in your sources.list?
[09:30] <ned_> ubotu: ?
[09:30] <ubotu> ned_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:30] <ned_> ubotu: ??
[09:30] <ubotu> ned_: Are you smoking crack?
[09:30] <derek_> k
[09:30] <JustSteve> i'm using a 6600 GT only 128 megs of ram, but it's DDR3
[09:30] <_rb_> um. are the 2 pipes all that makes up your 3d portfolio derek ?
[09:30] <zeeble> silverton: hm, maybe not.. i am still using the default sources.list
[09:31] <zeeble> silverton: lemme add and try, thanks
[09:31] <silverton> zeeble, yes, I just searched for it, and that is where gkrellm is
[09:31] <derek_> _rb_, yeah. I've really not done much in 3D.. I'm a Flash guy
[09:31] <_rb_> ah
[09:31] <zeeble> silverton: heh. my bad :)
[09:31] <sedat> what's the command to make a file?
[09:31] <_rb_> what sort of flash do you do ?
[09:31] <derek_> I was working on a car model
[09:31] <zeeble> silverton: just trying this out on the laptop, before i get the final release and use it full time.
[09:31] <derek_> Fiat Palio Weekender
[09:31] <_rb_> and is that qflash going now ? i thought i'd tried that a while back
[09:31] <zeeble> sedat: er, read README and INSTALL
[09:31] <derek_> but the mesh got too complex and I started needing a card
[09:32] <sedat> k
[09:32] <derek_> _rb_, I haven't tried any of those open source flash yet
[09:32] <sedat> tried help and manual but it aked me what page :)
[09:32] <JustSteve> derek_ what country are you from?
[09:32] <derek_> I'm still in windows
[09:32] <_rb_> too complex in what ? blender ?
[09:32] <derek_> JustSteve, India
[09:32] <derek_> _rb_, no, 3dsmax
[09:32] <_rb_> ah. which version ?
[09:32] <JustSteve> ah, i don't know any stores in india >_<
[09:32] <derek_> 5
[09:32] <brenner> sedat: what are you trying to do?
[09:32] <derek_> JustSteve, np.
[09:33] <derek_> _rb_, you got any work for display?
[09:33] <sedat> create a file called libmap.conf
[09:33] <sedat> last step of installing opera
[09:33] <derek_> JustSteve, thanks though :)
[09:33] <sedat> but i'm too lazy to do sudo nautilus
[09:33] <JustSteve> but in all i would avoid the nvidia FX cards if possible
[09:33] <brenner> sedat: just open a n editor
[09:33] <derek_> JustSteve, why?
[09:33] <brenner> sedat: or use 'touch'
[09:33] <nomad111> hey there
[09:33] <nomad111> just wondering
[09:33] <silverton> :O
[09:33] <nomad111> is it worth switching from fedora core 4 to ubuntu
[09:33] <silverton> they hosed the "run application" menu thing in gnome 2.12??
[09:33] <JustSteve> just not the best performance on them, major upgrade on the 6600 and up
[09:34] <zeeble> silverton: cheers. updated and now it is availablee.
[09:34] <sedat> thanks all
[09:34] <silverton> zeeble, no problem dude
[09:34] <_rb_> nothing properly. hmm. I have done a fair bit, but the actual stuff is corperate, so its all locked up and currently running. the 3d stuff.....um, nothing actually set up. I could find some stuff and chuck it in a folder. hangon
[09:34] <sedat> touch it is
[09:34] <hebez_> !ubuntuguide
[09:34] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[09:34] <derek_> nomad111, yeah.. if you want to upgrade from nomad status :P
[09:34] <brenner> nomad111: you ask in an #ubuntu channel... :)
[09:34] <hebez_> !faq
[09:34] <ubotu> [faq]  The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[09:34] <zeeble> brenner: hehe
[09:34] <apsync> I am about to install ubuntu on my slave HD, which has data i dont want to lose, will ubuntu format the drive before installing
[09:35] <derek_> _rb_, ok
[09:35] <nomad111> actually i wanted to kno how is better than fc4
[09:35] <brenner> "out of data"?
[09:35] <derek_> its debian based
[09:35] <JustSteve> noman111 : FWIW i like Ubuntu better than Slax
[09:35] <zeeble> nomad111: newer packages, easier to maintain.
[09:35] <nomad111> just making sure man
[09:35] <derek_> FWIW?
[09:35] <hebez_> where is more robust sources.list available?
[09:35] <zeeble> for what its worth
[09:35] <JustSteve> for what it's worth = FWIW
[09:35] <brenner> apsync: not if you manually set up the partitions
[09:35] <nomad111> does ubuntu use yum or apt or wat
[09:35] <derek_> ok
[09:36] <apsync> ok, :-)
[09:36] <zeeble> nomad111: apt. fc4 stole apt from debian. and yum was made by yellowdog to mimic the apt behaviour
[09:36] <JustSteve> ubuntu is debian based so it uses apt, there's a bunch of reviews of Hoary online
[09:36] <nomad111> lol im not too good with that stuff
[09:36] <brenner> apsync: the installer can resize partitions btw....just defrag 1st (if it's fat/ntfs)
[09:36] <nomad111> but coz i started off with yum
[09:36] <zeeble> nomad111: check out www.distrowatch.com
[09:36] <hebez_> !sources.list
[09:36] <apsync> ah
[09:36] <ubotu> hebez_: I give up, what is it?
[09:36] <nomad111> wats it for
[09:36] <zeeble> nomad111: lol. it is easy. theres a GUI for apt too.
[09:37] <zeeble> nomad111: distrowatch compares different distros.. etc.
[09:37] <apsync> what about if I make a partition now with partition magic, can I select that partition while installing ubuntu?
[09:37] <sedat> i need to libmap llibXm.so.2 to libXm.so.3, so i created /etc/libmap.conf, but what do i put in there?
[09:37] <JustSteve> nomad111 : http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[09:37] <nomad111> wats the official faq site by the way for ubuntu
[09:37] <brenner> apsync: yep
[09:37] <hebez_> tell hebez_ repositories
[09:37] <nomad111> thx i owe ya
[09:37] <apsync> allright, gonna do that then, thank you
[09:37] <JustSteve> there's a review of Breezy out as well
[09:38] <silverton> nomad111, wiki.ubuntu.org
[09:38] <silverton> or .com
[09:38] <silverton> I forget
[09:38] <silverton> !wiki
[09:38] <silverton> ! wiki
[09:38] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, silverton
[09:38] <zeeble> !faq
[09:38] <ubotu> [faq]  The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[09:38] <sedat> !wiki
[09:38] <jtan325> is there a place to see ubuntu package stats?
[09:38] <jtan325> i.e. popcon for ubuntu?
[09:38] <nomad111> and last question when is breezy coming out
[09:38] <zeeble> nomad111: /topic
[09:38] <spiral> hi
[09:39] <zeeble> spine55: heyas
[09:39] <brenner> jtan325: define stats
[09:39] <s4f3_m0d3> zeeble, how exactly did fedore steal apt?
[09:39] <s4f3_m0d3> i mean...
[09:39] <nomad111> ah k
[09:39] <nomad111> oct 13
[09:39] <user_> exit
[09:39] <derek_> _rb_, do you know of any online community of graphic designers that work on the linux platform?
[09:39] <s4f3_m0d3> linux is opensource...free exchange of ideas...
[09:39] <nomad111> will wait
[09:39] <user_> oop
[09:39] <jtan325> i.e. number of times a package has been installed
[09:39] <s4f3_m0d3> so....
[09:39] <jtan325> or downloaded
[09:39] <s4f3_m0d3> how do you steal opensource things?
[09:39] <zeeble> s4f3_m0d3: uh ok.
[09:39] <jtan325> (assuming the package is in the repos)
[09:40] <ngranado> anyone in here know how I can reconfigure my fonts for X, for some reason my paths or something to my fonts ahve been screwed up
[09:40] <s4f3_m0d3> apt has been a package for RH distros for a while actually
[09:40] <brenner> jtan325: eek....don't think there is anything to see stuff like that
[09:40] <brenner> not 100% certain though
[09:40] <zeeble> first it was in conectiva, who ported apt to rpm. then redhat started using it.
[09:40] <dskloet> @ngranado, I seem to have the same problem
[09:40] <zeeble> but yeah, very wrong choice of words when i said "steal"
[09:40] <ngranado> dskloet: really? were you running breezy?
[09:41] <derek_> is it possible to net-install ubuntu? and then not select gnome?
[09:41] <derek_> and install fluxbox
[09:41] <zeeble> was trying to be humorous up there.
[09:41] <dskloet> yes
[09:41] <ngranado> dskloet: you did that update?
[09:41] <s4f3_m0d3> zeeble, humor translates poorly in text :/
[09:41] <ngranado> dskloet: me too, and now I wish I hadn't
[09:41] <zeeble> s4f3_m0d3: yeah.
[09:41] <JustSteve> derek_ i don't think so
[09:41] <derek_> JustSteve, k
[09:41] <ngranado> dskloet: which what kind of card do you have?
[09:41] <dskloet> @ngranado: indeed
[09:42] <dskloet> graphics card you mean? asus riva tnt
[09:42] <ngranado> ahh
[09:42] <ngranado> dskloet: I was running fglrd
[09:42] <zeeble> Cant you get the whole ubuntu CD, do a expert install, install the base system, and then download whatever packages ytou want?
[09:42] <ngranado> dskloet: I was running fglrx*
[09:42] <ngranado> dskloet: which font?
[09:42] <nalioth> derek_: you can install a server only environment from the cd, and then install flux or whatever
[09:42] <ngranado> dskloet: mine's complaining about 'fixed'
[09:42] <dskloet> ng:would the graphics card be the problem?
[09:42] <dskloet> ng: font fixed
[09:42] <ngranado> damn
[09:42] <ngranado> I don't think the grahpics card is the problem
[09:43] <dskloet> ng: would it be a general breezy problem?
[09:43] <ngranado> dskloet: I think I got a package's config file that I shouldn't have
[09:43] <ngranado> some x program too...
[09:43] <derek_> nalioth ah ok thanks
[09:43] <dskloet> ng: why do you thank that?
[09:44] <ngranado> dskloet: cause now it's having a problems with the fonts and accessing them, I think it's just a path that's jumbbled up
[09:44] <derek_> but I'm somehow trying to minimize my download
[09:44] <derek_> is there a smaller CD for server install?
[09:44] <zeeble> dont think so.
[09:44] <ngranado> dskloet: or a path that is not defined properly in a config file somewhere
[09:44] <derek_> k
[09:44] <dskloet> but is there someone here who can help us?
[09:44] <silverton> wow
[09:44] <ngranado> derek_: if you want a server install, just install Debian
[09:45] <silverton> "glxgears" is running so fuckin slow...
[09:45] <silverton> holy crap
[09:45] <zeeble> heh.
[09:45] <dskloet> ng: the message suggests there's some path wrong, indeed
[09:45] <derek_> ngranado, but i won't be using it as a server later
[09:45] <ngranado> dskloet: it apparently doesn't seem so cause no one has interjected with knowledge
[09:45] <ngranado> derek_: is hd space a problem?
[09:45] <nalioth> derek_: same cd
[09:45] <nomad111> is the new ubuntu gonna be 64 bit capable
[09:45] <derek_> ngranado, no, bandwidth problem
[09:45] <ngranado> ahh
[09:46] <ngranado> derek_: I'm sure there's a way to net install
[09:46] <derek_> ubuntu won't run on athlon 64?
[09:46] <derek_> ngranado, cool
[09:46] <nalioth> nomad111: yes
[09:46] <nomad111> sick
[09:46] <JustSteve> nomad111 there's a 64 bit version already
[09:46] <nomad111> ah k
[09:46] <derek_> nomad111, why sick?
[09:46] <ngranado> derek_: I unfortunately haven't had to do that yet
[09:46] <derek_> nomad111, check out the download section at ubuntu.com
[09:46] <nomad111> ive only tried fedora so far
[09:46] <ngranado> dskloet: how are you running irc?
[09:46] <nalioth> derek_: perhaps you'd see the wiki on "installing from X" where x is windows, mepis, knoppix, etc
[09:47] <derek_> ngranado, ok np
[09:47] <nomad111> but i feel like its messy
[09:47] <nomad111> my frend recomended ubuntu
[09:47] <nomad111> might order a few cd's and give out in university
[09:47] <nomad111> spread the love
[09:47] <dskloet> ng: I just typed irc on my prompt and it worked :)
[09:47] <ngranado> dskloet: cool
[09:47] <ngranado> dskloet: that's what I'm using
[09:47] <JustSteve> derek_ minislack uses flux
[09:47] <ngranado> dskloet: this is comedy
[09:47] <dskloet> :)
[09:48] <derek_> JustSteve, I see. I don't want slack though :)
[09:48] <dskloet> ngranado: I never use irc but ubuntu.com suggested it could help me
[09:48] <derek_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[09:48] <JustSteve> lol. i know. i almost tried it today
[09:48] <derek_> _rb_, wassup?
[09:48] <ngranado> dskloet: I always use IRC
[09:48] <ngranado> dskloet: and the wikis
[09:48] <dskloet> ngranado: and I thought it might be best readable without X
[09:48] <ngranado> dskloet: except I'm kinda fucked with the wiki thing
[09:49] <Flying-Penguin> ubuntu
[09:49] <Flying-Penguin> w00t
[09:50] <dskloet> Any idea how to reconfigure a package? When I do 'dpck --configure ...' it says ... is already installed and configured.
[09:50] <dskloet> dpck=dpkg
[09:50] <[Chameleon] > anybody want to help me confirm a Breezy bug? you have to have a xine front-end.
[09:50] <bob2> dskloet: dpkg-reconfigure blah
[09:50] <silverton> dskloet, dpkg-reconfigure foo
[09:51] <bob2> tho that only works for things that use debconf
[09:51] <dskloet> thanks
[09:51] <silverton> yeah, what he said
[09:52] <dskloet> I want to reconfigure my X or fonts in order to get it working again...
[09:52] <dskloet> which package could I reconfigure?
[09:52] <_rb_> derek_ http://www.pol.co.nz/dave
[09:52] <derek_> _rb_, ok
[09:52] <_rb_> just what i could find
[09:52] <ngranado> dskloet: dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:53] <_rb_> my system is never clean enough for me to find anything
[09:53] <bob2> ngranado: dpkg-reconfigure
[09:53] <ngranado> bob2: thanks
[09:53] <derek_> these are made in blender or max?
[09:53] <JustSteve> finding thins... has anyone else tried Beagle? and gotten it to work?
[09:53] <_rb_> ngrando, is that the command to use after installing nvidia drivers too ?
[09:53] <dskloet> ngranado: it says: xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed
[09:53] <[Chameleon] > !beagle
[09:53] <ubotu> it has been said that beagle is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HoaryBeagleInstallHowto
[09:53] <_rb_> neither. lightwave 7
[09:54] <[Chameleon] > bah
[09:54] <derek_> on windoze?
[09:54] <bob2> JustSteve: worked for me in breezy
[09:54] <_rb_> reason i want to learn blender is that i hate windows, and dont have anything even close to legal in the way of software. love lightwave tho
[09:54] <JustSteve> i couldn't get it running in hoary
[09:54] <_rb_> yeah. in xpee
[09:54] <[Chameleon] > JustSteve: Beagle is officially slated for Breezy+1
[09:54] <[Chameleon] > JustSteve: read what ubotu suggested above.
[09:54] <bob2> but is included in breezy, in universe
[09:54] <derek_> _rb_, you'll be using blender on windows?
[09:55] <[Chameleon] > JustSteve: or try Breezy as bob2 suggests.
[09:55] <JustSteve> yeah, i just wanted to try it out and see what it did. i'm not going to breezy until full release
[09:55] <_rb_> screw that. If i use windows, I use lightwave. but it wont work in linux, so i'm gunna learn blender. principles are the same, just the interface is a real heap different.
[09:55] <derek_> okay
[09:55] <JustSteve> i tried Kubuntu Breezy and discovered i hate KDE
[09:55] <derek_> good
[09:56] <Toma-> kubuntu = <3
[09:56] <dskloet> I did apt-get install xserver-xorg and now it's doing a lot. Though I thought I already had it installed...
[09:56] <_rb_> i hate kubuntu
[09:56] <_rb_> kde is nice
[09:56] <derek_> jump into #blender
[09:56] <derek_> kde is a resource hogger
[09:56] <nomad111> i like gnome
[09:56] <Toma-> derek_: you a twm kinda person?
[09:56] <ngranado> oh no, here we go with desktop manager wars
[09:56] <JustSteve> i like fluxbox better than gnome, but i'm putting off making my menus
[09:56] <derek_> Toma-, fluxbox
[09:57] <derek_> ngranado, no we won't :)
[09:57] <_rb_> heh. not into dmws
[09:57] <JustSteve> i run BB4Win on XP :-P
[09:57] <dskloet> I would like to be able to run any wm it this point :(
[09:58] <ngranado> dskloet: dude
[09:58] <Toma-> 9wm
[09:58] <ngranado> dskloet: my sources.list got changed back to hoary
[09:58] <JustSteve> having X not work sucks man
[09:58] <ngranado> dskloet: i bet there was a apt update
[09:58] <dskloet> can you change back? won't that screw up things even more?
[09:59] <hondje> changing back to hoary in sources.list won't downgrade you
[09:59] <derek_> _rb_, you know about any online design community that works on linux platform?
[09:59] <dskloet> what will it do?
[09:59] <hondje> nothing
[09:59] <dskloet> :(
[09:59] <hondje> you'd have to use apt pinning to go back
[09:59] <hondje> it's not very easy
[10:00] <dskloet> I don't really want to go back, I just want the fixed font so I can start X again.
[10:00] <_rb_> havent looked for one.
[10:00] <_rb_> but if you search by blender, you'll find one
[10:01] <derek_> k
[10:01] <brenner> i've got a cpu that should be running at 1.6Ghz, but cat/proc/cpuinfo shows: cpu MHz : 800.277......any ideas?
[10:01] <brenner> *cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:01] <Toma-> brenner: is it an amd?
[10:01] <brenner> Toma-: yep
[10:02] <brenner> sempron 2800+
[10:02] <Toma-> ahh i se
[10:02] <Toma-> e
[10:02] <brenner> um...i've disabled apic....maybe that's it?
[10:02] <Toma-> weird.
[10:02] <brenner> i'd rather not reenable it though...i had that double clock speed prob
[10:02] <Toma-> possibly. my sempron 2800 is running at 2000mhz
[10:03] <Kuolio> put in "no_timer_check" and the clock speed gets back to normal
[10:03] <brenner> Toma-: and is it a 2Ghz machine?
[10:03] <dskloet> Where should the font "fixed" be located and where should it say?
[10:03] <Kuolio> to your menu.lst , in /boot/grub/
[10:03] <brenner> Kuolio: afaik, that's for the 2.6.12 kernel
[10:03] <Toma-> seems so
[10:03] <brenner> i'm just running default
[10:04] <Kuolio> brenner, yep you are right, it's for .12 and newer
[10:04] <Toma-> paste your flags output to me in pm
[10:04] <brenner> flags?
[10:04] <Toma-> from cpu_info
[10:04] <brenner> ah
[10:04] <ngranado> dskloet: did you check your sources
[10:05] <dskloet> ngranado: what do you mean? sources.list?
[10:05] <ngranado> dskloet: check less /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:05] <brenner> Toma-: this is a presario btw...i should've gone for a thinkpad
[10:06] <Toma-> oh... laptop?
[10:06] <dskloet> ngranado: it's just the default for warty with a substitute warty/breezy
[10:06] <Toma-> hmm cant help
[10:06] <dskloet> ngranado: why?
[10:06] <ngranado> oh, mine was set to hoary
[10:06] <Toma-> soz
[10:07] <brenner> heh, np
[10:07] <dskloet> ngranado: was set? by whom?
[10:07] <hondje> Proper use of 'whom' in an IRC chan?
[10:07] <brenner> Toma-: what kernel you running btw?
[10:08] <Toma-> latest one from ubuntu
[10:08] <robotgeek> hondje: :)
[10:08] <robotgeek> Toma-: uname -a
[10:08] <Toma-> 2.6.10-5-386
[10:08] <brenner> default...same as mine
[10:09] <dskloet> hondje: It's my first time in irc. Shouldn't I use proper english?
[10:09] <hondje> hehe
[10:09] <robotgeek> dskloet: we are happy abt it :)
[10:09] <dskloet> of is nederlands beter?
[10:09] <JustSteve> hmm, someone release Umicons for Linux on Deviantart
[10:11] <[Chameleon] > JustSteve: URL?
[10:11] <dskloet> ngranado: did you change it to hoary or did it happen automaticaly?
[10:12] <JustSteve> http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/2550034/ says for KDE but there aren't that many kde centric icons
[10:13] <JustSteve> someone already remixed the gnome2 icons as well
[10:13] <kung> brenner you#re still wondering why your laptop does not run at full speed?
[10:13] <brenner> kung: certainly am. :)
[10:13] <kakalto> hello
[10:13] <kung> thats usual
[10:13] <kung> its called speed stepping
[10:13] <kung> and it saves your cpu from overheating
[10:13] <kung> and it saves power
[10:14] <kung> if more cpu power is needed the frequency goes up automatically
[10:14] <brenner> kung: oh, ok.
[10:14] <kung> if you want to change it on your own you can use programs like cpuspeedy
[10:15] <kakalto> I'm trying to install ubuntu 5.04 on an older computer, and it can't detect the network hardware. It says to go back to "detect network hardware" if I want network, but it just scans, finds nothing, comes up with the same message. What can I do?
[10:15] <brenner> kung: if i did a cat while the CPU was running hard, would i see a change?
[10:15] <kung> guess it is in the package laptop-mode-tools
[10:15] <kung> sure you would
[10:15] <crimsun> kakalto: is it an ISA NIC?
[10:15] <JustSteve> [Chameleon]  - you like those icons?
[10:15] <kung> you canchange it manually aswell
[10:15] <brenner> kung: thanks for the info...i'll try it now
[10:16] <kakalto> crimsun, not sure
[10:16] <kakalto> crimsun, no, dynalink
[10:16] <crimsun> kakalto: nearly all PCI NICs are properly configured via hotplug
[10:16] <brenner> kung: what do you know...it changed. :D
[10:16] <kakalto> *D-link
[10:17] <crimsun> kakalto: model name/#?
[10:17] <kung> brenner I guess you could aswell do a "echo 7 > /proc/acpi/processor/CPU0/throttling" to set it to full speed, but I'm not quite sure about that, so you better inform youself some more..;)
[10:17] <brenner> kung: thanks again....at least i know it ain't faulty
[10:17] <kung> :)
[10:17] <kung> its not a bug, its a feature - or so..;)
[10:17] <kakalto> crimsun, can't quite see it inside the case
[10:17] <kakalto> I can only see the logo
[10:18] <crimsun> kakalto: what does ''lspnp'' report for it?
[10:18] <crimsun> (if it's ISA)
[10:18] <kakalto> I dunno, I'm in the middle of an installation
[10:19] <brenner> 'nother question: removing windows completely from this dualboot lappy....what's the best way to go about it?
[10:19] <kakalto> just install without network hardware, configure later?
[10:19] <kung> brenner windows was preinstalled?
[10:20] <kakalto> crimsun, should I just install without network hardware, and try to configure later?
[10:20] <brenner> kung: fraid so
[10:20] <crimsun> kakalto: if you can get at least the model name/#, that's best. Otherwise just continue the installation without the network.
[10:20] <kung> on my notebook there were some partitions from the manufacturer including a recovery system and an installation system
[10:20] <general> Hello
[10:20] <kakalto> crimsun, I'm not sure if this means anything but... "De-220P"
[10:20] <kung> so I first saved these partitons (made a disk image of these) and saved the partition table.
[10:21] <Cube-ness> hey..is there some easy way in ubuntu to open/close ports?
[10:21] <dskloet> general: Hello
[10:21] <kung> then you can just resize the windows and install partitions or delete them
[10:21] <Madpilot> Cube-ness: install Firestarter
[10:21] <ee_lars> Cube-ness : yes desactivate your firewall ;)
[10:21] <kung> I resized them since I still need windows for some scientific stuff :/
[10:22] <Madpilot> speaking of ports: can someone point me toward a legal Torrent that they *know* works? I'm still not sure I've got gTorrent & Firestarter playing nice...
[10:22] <brenner> kung: ok, i'm not quite sur i got you...do i have to reinstall?  isn't there a way of just deleting the partition and installing GRUB somewhere?
[10:22] <kung> sure
[10:22] <Cube-ness> ee_lars, huh?
[10:22] <kung> you can just delete it
[10:22] <kung> but then its gone
[10:22] <brenner> afaik, i only had the one partition with windows on it
[10:23] <brenner> kung: er, that's what i want. :)
[10:23] <Kuolio> brenner: do a fresh install and when asked about partitioning, opt for advanced and format all your drives.. that should be the easiest way.. and, might add, install breezy, it's stable enough nowadays (so you dont need to dist-upgrade in a few weeks)
[10:23] <brenner> ie going ubuntu-only. :)
[10:23] <kung> and I'd always install grup in the master boot record
[10:23] <kung> no matter if windows is on the notebook or not
[10:23] <derek_> _rb_, http://www.pol.co.nz/dave/watch.jpg ...nice!
[10:23] <Kuolio> upzie, *format your windows partition*
[10:24] <kung> just install grub wherever you like, it can access you linux partitions anywhere on the harddisk
[10:24] <brenner> Kuolio: so fresh install is easiest?  i might as well just wait for the official breezy release...
[10:24] <brenner> kung: righto then
[10:24] <Renski2> hey all
[10:25] <Renski2> Im trying to use apt-get to install apache, however its asking me to insert the 5.04 CD, which is currently at the office. How can I get it to not ask for the CD, and download it instead?
[10:26] <brenner> Renski: remove it from your sources.list file
[10:26] <Redactech> remove the cd from sources.list
[10:26] <samu2> Renski, you can disable the CD from the repositories section in synaptic package manager
[10:26] <Renski2> wheres my sources.list file?
[10:26] <brenner> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:26] <Redactech> /etc/apt/
[10:26] <samu2> Easier to do it through synaptic.
[10:27] <haffe> Is it safe to change to breezy repositories now?
[10:27] <brenner> heh...i find the synaptic method a bit confusing to tell the truth
[10:27] <haffe> I tried during the summer and my system borked.
[10:27] <Renski2> comment out this line?
[10:27] <Renski2> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407)] / hoary main restricted
[10:27] <samu2> brenner, are you used to many years of editing your sources.list?
[10:27] <brenner> Renski: that's the one.
[10:27] <Renski2> thanks
[10:28] <silverton> omfg, I love this!
[10:28] <samu2> GUI > Editing config files manually
[10:28] <Renski2> samu2, id rather do it through the conf file
[10:28] <silverton> I'm getting near 10mbit from my cable company :D
[10:28] <brenner> samu2: not really...warty was my first debian-based distro
[10:28] <Cube-ness> i am just wanting to let https traffic come through..
[10:28] <Redactech> anyone experience apt-get stopping at Main Packages.gz
[10:28] <Redactech> in Breezy ?
[10:28] <kung> uh, no
[10:28] <s4f3_m0d3> where do i get ubuntu ppc nvidia drivers?
[10:29] <kung> I installed the original ones from nvidia
[10:29] <kung> at least for my x86
[10:29] <s4f3_m0d3> yeah
[10:29] <s4f3_m0d3> PPC is different
[10:29] <Madpilot> Cube-ness: you should get https thru by default - aren't you?
[10:29] <kung> so it should work with the ppc ones aswell
[10:29] <robotgeek> s4f3_m0d3: i don't think u have binaries for ppc
[10:29] <s4f3_m0d3> robotgeek, and?
[10:30] <Redactech> anyone has a breezy install right now ?
[10:30] <Cube-ness> Madpilot, i just treid form another computer.. yes it is.. hehe.. i guess my issue is my router, but i could swea i opened port 443
[10:30] <Renski2> im getting conneciton refused on 127.0.0.1, what do I to get it running?
[10:31] <Madpilot> Renski: you've got Apache installed? wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP has start/stop/restart info
[10:31] <robotgeek> s4f3_m0d3: i am not sure
[10:31] <kung> oh, no orignal nvida drivers for ppc linux strange
[10:33] <sedat> breezy here
[10:33] <samu2> brenner, I have to admit I found synaptic's way of dealing with repositories a bit confusing at first.s
[10:33] <Redactech> sedat : did you apt-get update recently ?
[10:33] <_rb_> derek_ cheers about the watch.
[10:33] <derek_> _rb_, ;)
[10:33] <sedat> now
[10:33] <brenner> samu2: heh, maybe it's b/c the sample sources.list is so well commented. :)
[10:34] <sedat> y?
[10:34] <derek_> _rb_, check this out: http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3
[10:34] <Redactech> my stop at  http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages [572kB] 
[10:34] <Redactech> 43% [17 Packages 206519/572kB 36%] 
[10:34] <_rb_> unfortunately, its not the final. cant find that.
[10:34] <derek_> _rb_, for combustion in windoze
[10:34] <Redactech> sedat : whatever the miror I choose
[10:34] <derek_> ('discreet combustion')
[10:34] <_rb_> the final had the bezier engraving and the wear maps. it was basically a replica of the wath i wore at the time
[10:34] <derek_> _rb_, cool
[10:34] <derek_> is this your latest model?
[10:35] <sedat> synaptic fails too then while refreshing?
[10:35] <fek> moin
[10:35] <Redactech> apt-get update and synaptic give error after the update
[10:35] <starshine> hello
[10:35] <kakalto> what is the minimum/recommended specs for ubuntu?
[10:36] <sedat> 500 athlon running fine here
[10:36] <kakalto> ya think it'll run on a pentium 233?
[10:36] <sedat> gnome?
[10:36] <Redactech> sedat : Impossible de rcuprer http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[10:36] <Redactech> yes
[10:36] <kakalto> sedat, are you using xfce?
[10:36] <Redactech> nope
[10:37] <sedat> nope
[10:37] <sedat> gnome
[10:37] <kakalto> ohk
[10:37] <nalioth> kakalto: yes, with a lightweight window mangler
[10:37] <sedat> but only my second day with ubuntu
[10:37] <Redactech> I got gnome yes
[10:37] <derek_> "Cinelerra takes what normally is a boring server operating system - studied in computer science classrooms, hidden in back offices - and turns it into a 50,000 watt flamethrower of multimedia editing power."
[10:37] <s4f3_m0d3> um....
[10:37] <robotgeek> kakalto: yeah, you can put fluxbox/openbox on it also and be cool
[10:37] <kakalto> I'm gonna try with gnome, but I expect the need to switch to my beautiful xfce
[10:37] <brenner> nalioth: mangler? :)
[10:37] <Frafra> hi all
[10:37] <indian> hi
[10:37] <kakalto> hi Frafra
[10:37] <brenner> kakalto: how much RAM do you have?
[10:37] <kakalto> 256M
[10:38] <derek_> hi indian
[10:38] <indian> hi
[10:38] <ColonelKernel> should be able to do gnome with 256
[10:38] <derek_> kaise ho?
[10:38] <brenner> kakalto: same here...it's a little sluggish
[10:38] <Frafra> i must configure a canonscan D660U
[10:38] <indian> chennai se
[10:38] <sedat> just remember patience is a virtue
[10:38] <derek_> i asked how you are :)
[10:38] <indian> acche hoom
[10:38] <derek_> k
[10:38] <derek_> you don't speak hindi much?
[10:38] <kakalto> sedat, how can I forget patience is a virtue when running a 233?
[10:38] <Frafra> xsane doesn't work
[10:39] <robotgeek> derek_,indian : join #ubuntu-offtopic we can speak in hindi/tamil
[10:39] <Redactech> sedat : I got this error W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists
[10:39] <ColonelKernel> UGH!!!! 233
[10:39] <indian> han jee
[10:39] <sedat> redac, c seulement ma deuxieme jour avec linux
[10:39] <indian> aapkidher se
[10:39] <sedat> i can update that one
[10:39] <kakalto> ColonelKernel, I ran that thing for atleast 5 years on WinME, (dunno how I lasted) but now I'm trying to revive it after about a year of no use
[10:39] <_rb_> cinelerra wont compile on my system
[10:40] <derek_> _rb_, why not?
[10:40] <_rb_> cant remember the problem
[10:40] <kakalto> win 95, then ME
[10:40] <Redactech> sedat : ah je veux juste savoir si y a un probleme avec les mirroirs
[10:40] <_rb_> something beginning with x not present
[10:40] <ColonelKernel> you should be able to pull gnome then
[10:40] <_rb_> farkd around for ages to try to make it work
[10:40] <derek_> kakalto, then hell
[10:40] <Redactech> sedat : good luck with linux and drop here anytime with your problems
[10:40] <sedat> jpense pas parce que tous les miroirs update bon
[10:40] <sedat> thx
[10:41] <sedat> ooops
[10:41] <sedat> be.archive.ubuntu.com is working fine
[10:41] <sedat> sorry i missed that
[10:41] <derek_> _rb_, :(
[10:41] <Redactech> sedat thanks I'm trying this one
[10:42] <kakalto> I tried ubuntu on it previously, when it had an 8mb savage trio64, and it didn't work
[10:42] <brenner> kung: still here?
[10:42] <kakalto> but now I have a Riva TNT2 w/ 32m !
[10:42] <sedat> are there any good partition managers to resize ntfs and fat32?
[10:43] <haffe> Partion Magic.
[10:43] <haffe> qtparted
[10:43] <kakalto> Partition Magic ain't free though aye
[10:43] <Redactech> gparted in your live cd
[10:43] <athlon> anyone using amarok in breezy ? whats the latest version available in the repo ?
[10:43] <Kuolio> 1.3
[10:44] <athlon> thanks
[10:44] <sedat> already installed ;)
[10:44] <sedat> thanks
[10:44] <athlon> wait 1.3 instead of 1.3.1 ?
[10:44] <Frafra> who could help me?
[10:44] <Kuolio> athlon: 1.3.1
[10:44] <athlon> ah okay, thanks
[10:44] <crimsun> 1.3.1 was uploaded and built yesterday.
[10:44] <Kuolio> it was added last night, some 12h ago
[10:44] <Madpilot> Frafra: have you searched the Ubuntu forums with your scanner name?
[10:45] <sedat> i think the ubuntu installer still needs some serious work btw
[10:45] <kakalto> yeh
[10:45] <kakalto> but atleast the actual distro is pretty good
[10:45] <sedat> the autopartition thingy doesnt start on my laptop
[10:45] <kakalto> the installer only needs to be used once, the rest can be used daily
[10:46] <_rb_> in windows i used to use after effects tho
[10:46] <Frafra> Madpilot: canonscan D660U not found
[10:46] <_rb_> and cinestream
[10:46] <sedat> i nearly gave up though
[10:46] <brenner> sedat: when you manually edit the partition table?
[10:46] <sedat> manually worked
[10:46] <danst> hi everyone! I wanted to compile imms for bmp and encountered some problems, is there somebody who tried / wants to try the same?
[10:46] <sedat> but only had a 2 gig partition free
[10:46] <heatxsink> oh man that dsk guy left huh?
[10:46] <heatxsink> I got my X server up and running again
[10:46] <sedat> which is too small, so it faild
[10:47] <robotgeek> danst: imms?
[10:47] <kakalto> is xubuntu going to happen?
[10:47] <Frafra> Madpilot: I've found it here: http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-CANON
[10:47] <robotgeek> danst: do u have beep-media-player-dev installed, if imms is a plugin for bmp
[10:48] <danst> robotgeek: imms is a plugin which acts as an intelligent playlist
[10:48] <whistler> hello
[10:49] <Redactech> Is there anyone having problem with breezy update today ?
[10:49] <sedat> qtparted question: can i move a partition as the free space is is between two logical partitions, so cant resize my primary one
[10:50] <brenner> danst: maybe post a HOWTO on the forum if you want to share...
[10:50] <robotgeek> danst: try it after getting the dev package, and let us know if that worked
[10:50] <whistler> Redactech everything was fine last time.I updated at 9.30 am
[10:51] <concept10> danst: have you tried to use the imms .deb for xmms?
[10:51] <heatxsink> anyone else notice on their laptop that their eraser head doesn't ALWAYS work?
[10:51] <danst> concept: no i didnt try this one do you think itll work for bmp as well?
[10:51] <robotgeek> my laptop has an eraser head?
[10:51] <s4f3_m0d3> robotgeek, stick for mouse movment
[10:52] <s4f3_m0d3> ya know, old skool
[10:52] <danst> I already downloaded all dev pgs avail, and i would love to write a howto but I cant compile it theres always this error ../immscore/xidle.cc:50: error: `display' undeclared (first use this function) (and some more...)
[10:52] <sedat> anyone noticed their touchpad movement is way too fast?
[10:52] <brenner> danst: sorry...thought you solved it and wanted to tell us. :)
[10:52] <robotgeek> sedat: can change that
[10:52] <concept10> danst: It wouldnt hurt to try, if it doesnt work just remove the deb.  Some/most XMMS plugins work with BMP, some dont.
[10:53] <danst> concept10: ok ill try that
[10:53] <sedat> sliders dont have too much effect, affects my mouse only it seems
[10:53] <heatxsink> Redactech:  I am
[10:53] <heatxsink> Redactech:  I did
[10:54] <umar> hi everyone
[10:54] <sedat> slm
[10:55] <derek_> umar shareef
[10:55] <dskloet> I got my X working by changing the font paths in xorg.conf but gnome doesn't start (breezy). Anyone?
[10:55] <danst> concept10: streamripper rox
[10:55] <pwlogin>  ?
[10:55] <Redactech> If nobody have problem with updating their breezy I must suppose the problem comes with me...
[10:55] <umar> i need help regarding modem drivers
[10:55] <umar> i have conexant HCF modem
[10:55] <umar> i downloaded drivers from linuxant
[10:56] <z|bandito> does ubuntu natively support clustering via open mozix or something similar?
[10:56] <umar> but i dont have linuxant license key and modem is operatin on 14.4 kbps
[10:56] <sedat> mount tool gui recommendations anyone?
[10:56] <umar> anone can help me ?
[10:56] <concept10> danst: yes, it does.. im about to rip about 6 streams at one time until it fills the drive :)
[10:56] <umar> ?
[10:57] <danst> ;-)
[10:58] <umar> anyone can tell me the solution for linuxant license key/
[10:58] <umar> ??
[10:58] <robotgeek> sedat: gnome-applet okay?
[10:58] <brenner> umar: er, buy the key?
[10:59] <brenner> license even
[10:59] <thoreauputic> umar: off topic - pay them or change modems
[10:59] <umar> it is said linux is free
[10:59] <umar> then y is this
[11:00] <thoreauputic> umar: free as in Freedom, not price
[11:00] <umar> i have already payed for modem
[11:00] <ycul> hi everyone
[11:00] <brenner> blame the company that made the winmodem
[11:00] <umar> y do i pay for drivers now
[11:00] <Madpilot> umar: so contact the company...
[11:00] <concept10> danst: do you use audioscrobbler?
[11:01] <umar> there is not any kind of hacking the key
[11:01] <concept10> with BMP
[11:01] <Redactech> umar : comon
[11:01] <heatxsink> is there a way of speeding up ubuntu's bootup?
[11:01] <thoreauputic> umar: complain to the people who won't release specifications, not to the GNU/Linux community
[11:01] <ycul> hi
[11:01] <heatxsink> it always pauses on Configuring Network Interfaces
[11:01] <apsync> hi, I have just installed ubuntu, he asked me to create a user with password i said yes etc etc, but now, what's the password for root?
[11:01] <heatxsink> either that, or eliminating my modem from that step?
[11:01] <Madpilot> apsync: so root by default....
[11:01] <ycul> wat are this stuff alll about?
[11:01] <umar> means u ppl cant help me
[11:01] <Madpilot> !tell apsync about root
[11:01] <apsync> thank you
[11:02] <thoreauputic> umar: you were told: cracking is off-topic here
[11:02] <thenuke> !tell thenuke about root
[11:02] <Madpilot> apsync: sorry, meant to say "no root by default"... read ubotu's msg, anyway!
[11:02] <bmgz> I got a problem with Cinelerra 2.0 : mpeg2enc.plugin is missing..
[11:02] <umar> tell me where should i go to talk abt this topic
[11:02] <sedat> cnn
[11:03] <sedat> people do care ''
[11:03] <apsync> Ok, so root is disabled, then in shell, when I type 'su' it asks me for a password, what is that password then?
[11:03] <thoreauputic> umar: write to your modem manufacturer and politely ask them to release specifications so that the community can write drivers for their product
[11:03] <Redactech> apsync use sudo instead
[11:04] <Madpilot> apsync: the sudo pw is your user pw
[11:04] <apsync> I see, thank you
[11:04] <Redactech> and then your user password
[11:04] <heatxsink> ???
[11:04] <apsync> one more thing, is gcc installed by default?
[11:05] <Redactech> no
[11:05] <Redactech> apt-get update gcc
[11:05] <thoreauputic> apsync: it's on the disk - install build-essential
[11:05] <Redactech> apt-get install gcc
[11:05] <apsync> Ok :-)
[11:05] <thoreauputic> Redactech: no, build-essential
[11:05] <thenuke> apsync: apt-get install build-essential instead of gcc
[11:05] <Redactech> yes master
[11:06] <apsync> ok
[11:06] <sedat> qtparted error committing device, this means trouble right?
[11:06] <galorin> I've just installed kubuntu onto a Sony Vaio, VGN-a115b.  I've tried googling, but no results on this.  When shutting down, the machine does not power off completely.  Holding down the power button is needed to turn it off completely.
[11:06] <thoreauputic> Redactech: the point is, installing gcc by itself is not enough - hence build-essential
[11:06] <Redactech> galorin : www.laptop-linux.net
[11:07] <pc2> hi
[11:07] <pc2> asl pls
[11:07] <Redactech> thoreauputic: why so ?
[11:08] <thoreauputic> Redactech: build-essential pulls in stuff like "make" and other bits needed to compile things (metapackage)
[11:08] <thoreauputic> Redactech: it's just a convenient short-cut :)
[11:09] <[LethAL] > Is there a way I can resize the extended partition that Ubuntu is on?
[11:09] <[LethAL] > I.e. I have 3 other primary partitions
[11:09] <brenner> Redactech: does that site you gave exist?
[11:09] <Redactech> thoreauputic: I compile thing from time to time and never had to install anything else than gcc
[11:09] <nightswim> w
[11:10] <rcc> j
[11:10] <pc2> hi
[11:10] <galorin> Redactech, no entyr for the laptop there.  and it's linux-laptop.net
[11:10] <p0windah> any ubuntu users here that are also toontown users ? and have it working under ubuntu ?
[11:10] <thoreauputic> Redactech: well, the better advice is to install buid-essential (ask any debian/ubuntu person) - but whatever worked for you
[11:10] <rcc> sds
[11:10] <rcc> huy
[11:11] <sedat> non-free programs can't end up in repositories?
[11:11] <p0windah> they end up in non-free repositories
[11:12] <Redactech> thanks thoreau I'll do that
[11:12] <pc2> rethh
[11:12] <Redactech> but that doesn't help me with my update problem howhever
[11:12] <thoreauputic> Redactech: just one of those distro specific oddities ;-)
[11:13] <Quadiagen> anyone know how I can change what GRUB boots by default
[11:13] <Quadiagen> I am dual-booting XP and ubuntu
[11:13] <[LethAL] > Quadiagen, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:14] <[LethAL] > Probably number for
[11:14] <[LethAL] > 4
[11:14] <Quadiagen> k, thx
[11:14] <[LethAL] > Since I keep putting it on 3 and "Other operating systems" isn't an OS ;)
[11:15] <Redactech> thoreauputic :  sigh
[11:15] <pc2> punkgirl
[11:15] <sedat> gui mounting tool available in ubuntu? if not, please reccoment one
[11:15] <galorin> sedat, what's giving you difficulty?
[11:15] <pc2> hi
[11:15] <Redactech> sedat : try the instructions in the ubuntuguide.org
[11:16] <thoreauputic> !ubuntuguide
[11:16] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[11:17] <thoreauputic> !faq
[11:17] <ubotu> I heard faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[11:17] <Redactech> the instruction about mounting are OK
[11:17] <Madpilot> !+mount
[11:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives
[11:17] <brenner> heh.....isnt that saying: ubguide is bad, but we're gonna use it as a base in breezy!
[11:17] <thoreauputic> Redactech: yes, lots of the ubuntuguide stuff is OK - that factoid is a bit harsh
[11:18] <brenner> it also doesn't recommend any other help avenues...ie the wiki
[11:18] <derek[] > "mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem"
[11:18] <kakalto> LOL
[11:18] <derek[] > lol
[11:18] <kakalto> ubuntu installer is bugged!
[11:18] <[LethAL] > O.o
[11:18] <kakalto> buggy
[11:18] <Redactech> he is asking about a gui thing
[11:18] <kakalto> hah!
[11:19] <bdude1992> hi
[11:19] <kakalto> I entered a password, enters
[11:19] <kakalto> gah
[11:19] <crimsun> kakalto: that's not incorrect, it's just not quite spoon-feeding
[11:19] <thoreauputic> brenner: apparently the author of ubuntuguide wasapproached but doesn't want to co-operate with the doc team , as I understand it
[11:19] <_rb_> okay peeps. whats the deal with "XF86VidModeModeInfo" ? Where do i get it ?
[11:19] <kakalto> I entered a password, entered a different pass for the second time. rinse & repeat another two times, now I can't add users, methinks
[11:19] <sedat> fstabbing/mounting  i manged to do, but i don't like the terminal so would be good to have a configurable gui tool to do it for me
[11:19] <robotgeek> sedat: right click -> add to panel -> drive mount applet
[11:20] <crimsun> kakalto: you _are_ technically _adding_ a partition to your visible filesystems
[11:20] <ycul> hi
[11:20] <kakalto> crimsun, huh?
[11:20] <brenner> sedat: if you've got fstab set up, you can use the gnome applet to mount them
[11:20] <brenner> iirc
[11:20] <sedat> aah
[11:20] <sedat> i see
[11:20] <crimsun> kakalto: regarding "mount"
[11:21] <ycul> hey
[11:21] <kakalto> crimsun, I wasn't LOLing at that
[11:21] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:21] <kakalto> that was a coincidence
[11:21] <_rb_> anyone able to tell me where i get XF86VidModeModeInfo from ?
[11:21] <crimsun> kakalto: ah, sorry
[11:21] <kakalto> :)
[11:21] <sedat> thx everybody
[11:21] <brenner> thoreauputic: who exactl is the doc team anyway?
[11:21] <kakalto> I think the ubuntu installer is a little screwy
[11:21] <brenner> *exactly
[11:21] <sedat> but will continue to bug yall so dont think u got rid of me that easily
[11:22] <sedat> kaka+1
[11:22] <robotgeek> brenner: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamProjects
[11:22] <brenner> ah. :)
[11:22] <thoreauputic> brenner: there an ubuntu-doc mailing list - I think Jerome Gotangco (sp) ? co-ordinates the team
[11:22] <derek[] > bbl
[11:22] <ycul> hi
[11:22] <nalioth> brenner: always causing trouble, it seems, lol
[11:22] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:22] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:22] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:22] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:22] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:22] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:22] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:22] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:23] <apokryphos> ycul: stop
[11:23] <ycul> from wat places are you?
[11:23] <robotgeek> i don't understand these ppl
[11:23] <apokryphos> robotgeek: just an eager beaver 8)
[11:23] <heatxsink> anyone have any idea what to search for that edits in what order things boot up and how?
[11:23] <sedat> humans are more compicated than robots
[11:23] <heatxsink> search the ubuntu wiki of course
[11:24] <topyli> yeah, humans suck
[11:24] <[LethAL] > Any know how can I resize my extended partition which contains this here Ubuntu installation? I'm single-booting atm.
[11:24] <robotgeek> sedat: u think u've got me all figured out, :)
[11:24] <brenner> nalioth: not fast enough it seems
[11:24] <[LethAL] > sedat, only fttb
[11:24] <p0windah> does ubuntu have an rc.d gui manager ? or is there talk of one ?
[11:24] <p0windah> robotgeek: botsnack
[11:24] <p0windah> :)
[11:24] <sedat> Fiber To The Building?
[11:25] <brenner> p0windah: rcconf iirc
[11:25] <[LethAL] > For the time being
[11:25] <topyli> p0windah: sysv-rc-conf is pretty nice. it's a console gui :)
[11:25] <p0windah> you know what I mean though, something pretty for gnome
[11:25] <p0windah> real men use cat and echo for all config changes
[11:26] <topyli> lazy people prefer awk and sed
[11:26] <robotgeek> or vi
[11:27] <p0windah> too esy
[11:28] <bob2> heatxsink: /usr/share/doc/sysvrc
[11:28] <bob2> heatxsink: it's usually a bad idea to reorder things, tho; things have dependencies that my not be obvious, and the ubuntu and debian developers have set them the way they are for a reason
[11:28] <sedat> real men are independent
[11:29] <heatxsink> bob2:  any idea why that starting network interfaces takes so damned long?
[11:29] <apsync> hi, I have just added a application using "Add Applications", how can I remove an application ?
[11:30] <bob2> heatxsink: because your dhcp server sucks or is not connected
[11:30] <heatxsink> ahh
[11:30] <bob2> apsync: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[11:30] <heatxsink> I bet my eth0 one is the one that's jacke dup
[11:30] <apsync> thank you
[11:30] <sedat> same place
[11:30] <kakalto> has anyone else had issues with the 5.04 install process, where, when making a user/password, and you enter a different password each time it asks, it just cycles around without making a user?
[11:30] <sedat> untick the boxes
[11:30] <Hoxzer> I have problem with azureus, before it opened a icon on top of the screen but now it only creates second window named by "Unknow window"
[11:30] <bob2> kakalto: you mean it fails to work if you later enter matching passwords?
[11:30] <kakalto> I mean, even when you enter the same password after the first time or two
[11:31] <kakalto> yeah
[11:31] <Hoxzer> how could I get the icon back to top of the screen?
[11:31] <bob2> that'd be a bug, tho I haven't heard of it
[11:31] <kakalto> I'm just wondering whether I should bother reporting it, or has it been fixed in the recent pre-releases
[11:31] <bob2> kakalto: the bts does list fixed bugs, too...
[11:32] <kakalto> what's the 'bts'?
[11:32] <topyli> kakalto: if it is a bug, it's a bug in a supported release. so yes, you should file it
[11:32] <sedat> free space on drive should be checked too btw
[11:32] <bob2> kakalto: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[11:32] <kakalto> righto
[11:32] <faked> bug tracking system=bts
[11:34] <brownie17> nalioth, you about?
[11:34] <hussam> When I try to login using session type failsafe, I get this error:
[11:34] <hussam>  Xsession: unable to launch failsafe x session ---x-terminal-emulator not found; aborting
[11:34] <hussam> .
[11:34] <hussam> anybody knows how to fix that?
[11:35] <slept> install xterm
[11:35] <nalioth> brownie17: yes i am
[11:35] <enchanter> How to suspend/resume?
[11:35] <nalioth> brownie17: you left last night too quickly for me to tell you about gaim
[11:35] <brownie17> nalioth, oh ok. sorry. what can you tell me/
[11:35] <hussam> slept: that message for me?
[11:36] <enchanter> I hope to press "Fn-F1" to make it suspend. But it does not work on my laptop
[11:36] <slept> hussam, yes, what do you want to do ?
[11:36] <nalioth> brownie17: open a terminal and type "gaim -a"
[11:36] <apsync> is it possible to use mouse4 button (back) and mouse5 button (next) on my mouse in Ubuntu? Since it's a Microsoft I dont think there are drivers for Ubuntu...
[11:36] <wrtpeeps> hi?
[11:37] <derek[] > its a question?
[11:37] <sedat> o yea, any webcam enabled IM compatible wit MSN ?
[11:37] <hussam> slept: ok I'll try installing xterm
[11:37] <wrtpeeps> when i try to run americas army, i get the following error:
[11:37] <wrtpeeps> Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[11:37] <wrtpeeps> anyone know which pakcage i have to install
[11:37] <wrtpeeps> (i have installed nvidia-glx)
[11:37] <[LethAL] > Did you enable it?
[11:37] <wrtpeeps> how do i do that?
[11:37] <slept> enchanter, you  have to do apm --suspend ,  if that works you can make a keybinding for that somewhere in the gnome menu
[11:37] <[LethAL] > I dunno, someone will
[11:38] <Juhaz> apsync, you can get those buttonpresses detected, but almost no application will do anything with them
[11:38] <wrtpeeps> anyone know how i enable nvidia-glx package?
[11:38] <enchanter> slept, thanks, I will try it
[11:38] <apsync> ah, Ok :-)
[11:38] <markuman> hey,,, xfce crashed and now i cant clickt right on desktop?! what should i start so that works again?
[11:38] <faked> wrtpeeps: m-a ai nvidia
[11:38] <bob2> wrtpeeps: that's in the FAQ
[11:38] <bob2> wrtpeeps: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:39] <siimo> anyone know why my partitions listed in fstab dont show up in nautilus 2.12 ? only my usb key and cdrw drive shows up
[11:39] <wrtpeeps> thanks  bob2 and faked
[11:39] <aroma> anybody could assit me how to install my webcam does all webcams supported by linux
[11:40] <brownie17> nalioth, still doesn't show up in the panel thinger, like next to the clock.
[11:40] <workstation4> hi!!!!
[11:40] <Majst0r> Hey, ppl! Anyone knows which distribution of Ubuntu will work on a powerbook g4?
[11:40] <nalioth> brownie17: you enabled it in the manu?
[11:40] <lynlyn> hui\
[11:40] <lynlyn> hi
[11:41] <lynlyn> wana chat???????????
[11:41] <robotgeek> lynlyn: #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:41] <workstation4> can anybody give me some info on how to install webcams on Linux???
[11:41] <lynlyn> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[11:41] <robotgeek> Majst0r: ubuntu works on a powerbook g4, but is it a new one
[11:41] <nalioth> Majst0r: any of them
[11:41] <Hoxzer> I need to get my azureus back to bar :E
[11:41] <k0p> I have no sound :| @  Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)   help me please :\
[11:41] <Majst0r> robotgeek: No.. Not a new one.
[11:41] <nalioth> Majst0r: any of them
[11:41] <Majst0r> It won't boot.
[11:42] <crimsun> k0p: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[11:42] <lynlyn> helloooooooooooooooooooooooo
[11:42] <slept> siimo, they are mounted somewhere (look at mountpoint), they are in your filesystem
[11:42] <nalioth> magnon: even when you hold the "c" key or "alt-option"?
[11:42] <crimsun> lynlyn: we read you.
[11:42] <Majst0r> I tried holding the "c"..
[11:42] <nalioth> Majst0r: even when you hold the "c" key or "alt-option"?
[11:42] <lynlyn> how are you?
[11:42] <brownie17> nalioth: what do i enable? "man gaim" deoes not give me much worth doing
[11:42] <Majst0r> But what's the alt-option?
[11:42] <Hoxzer> what is my problem if azureus creates two windows on start up and doesn't create icon to the bar :E
[11:42] <[LethAL] > lynlyn, This isn't for chatting, this is for helping
[11:42] <nalioth> lynlyn: this is a help channel, not a social one. please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:42] <siimo> slept, yes but i could see these as "drives" in nautilus computer  in the previous version
[11:43] <k0p> crimsun, 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)
[11:43] <crimsun> k0p: cat /proc/asound/cards
[11:43] <sedat> aroma
[11:43] <lynlyn> sorry
[11:43] <slept> siimo, if they are mounted things are perfect,  what are you looking for ?
[11:44] <siimo> slept, i want to see them as drives under computer
[11:44] <k0p> crimsun, well, I haven't machine here :(
[11:45] <sedat> aroma: libmimic maybe?
[11:45] <brownie17> nalioth, i'll just reinstall GAIM, dw
[11:45] <nalioth> brownie17: do an "sudo apt-get --purge remove gaim"
[11:45] <sedat> what does purge do?
[11:45] <slept> siimo, why ? the concept of mounting things is very nice , you can change mountpoints to fit your needs ,eg to your homedir
[11:45] <BockBilbo> hello
[11:46] <slept> sedat, remove the config
[11:46] <nalioth> sedat: removes config files
[11:46] <siimo> slept, because i dont have it mounted all the time
[11:46] <brownie17> nalioth, yep it's all done. have you figured out my quake problem yet?
[11:46] <siimo> so its easy to mount/umountt if i had a drive icons there
[11:46] <nalioth> brownie17: waiting on you, my friend
[11:47] <slept> siimo, and thats the way you want things to be ? If you want them to be mounted remove the noauto in fstab
[11:47] <gerarcone> how can i do to eliminate the sound when i open ubuntu? i tried to eliminate the sound for the login in the audio dialog but it still doesn't work
[11:47] <siimo> ok
[11:47] <BockBilbo> i have 2 continuous ext3 partitions on my HD, the first one with data and the second one with no data. Is it possible to convert then two into just one ext3 partition with the data of the first one?
[11:48] <siimo> another thing thats missing is Menu > Run
[11:48] <sedat> lol
[11:48] <sedat> menu run
[11:48] <BockBilbo> siimo, do alt+f2
[11:48] <brownie17> nalioth, well i'm ready to start quaking. got any hints?
[11:48] <sedat> ull get to enter more commands then ull want
[11:49] <great_lookz> does anybody here knows how to install webcams on ubuntu
[11:49] <slept> BockBilbo, you can install lvm
[11:49] <sedat> great lookz
[11:49] <siimo> BockBilbo, nice :)
[11:49] <gerarcone> nobody can help me?
[11:49] <gerarcone> :(
[11:49] <nalioth> brownie17: watch your screen
[11:49] <BockBilbo> slept, what does it do?
[11:49] <sedat> theres something like libmimic i heard
[11:49] <apsync> I still have winxp on my hd1(master) and ubuntu on hd2(slave), how can I browse my master HD ?
[11:49] <kemik> !tell apsync about ntfs
[11:49] <hussam> I reinstalled xterm but I still can't log in to failsafe session. It still complains about x-terminal
[11:50] <apsync> thank you
[11:50] <gwenks> hey guys, i need some hep
[11:50] <gwenks> help
[11:50] <great_lookz> how will i install webcam on Linux
[11:50] <sedat> http://www.jblinux.net/libmimic/ => msn thingy
[11:50] <p0windah> great_lookz: hang on
[11:50] <gwenks> i just recently installed ubuntu
[11:50] <sedat> i think
[11:50] <[LethAL] > Could someone tell me where should I put a modeline in xorg.conf again?
[11:50] <gwenks> but when I tried to open the browser
[11:50] <p0windah> great_lookz: what kind of webcam and what version of ubuntu ?
[11:50] <slept> BockBilbo, you can put partitions together to   volume and then create  small volumes inside, they can be shrinked ore grown , its great
[11:51] <gwenks> It wont open
[11:51] <gwenks> and disapperas in the taskbar
[11:51] <great_lookz> A4 tech webcam and 5.1 version Ubuntu version
[11:52] <sedat> logitech quickcam over here
[11:52] <BockBilbo> thanks slept
[11:52] <p0windah> great_lookz: search google for "breezy a4 tech webcam" and click on the first match....
[11:52] <p0windah> great_lookz: which you really shouldnt need to be told
[11:53] <gwenks> yap me too
[11:53] <BockBilbo> sedat, does your qc work on ubuntu?
[11:53] <gwenks> logitech webcam
[11:53] <great_lookz> ok ill try
[11:53] <p0windah> great_lookz: then from there, start hunting around the forums
[11:53] <ulisse> hello tribe!
[11:53] <VoX> how do i go about installing 32-bit libs on an amd64?
[11:53] <NiLz> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2246
[11:53] <Hoxzer> I have problem: some time ago azurues opened icon on top of the screen bar now days it creates second window that has that icon
[11:53] <great_lookz> and then?
[11:53] <NiLz> why is my ext3 fs mounted as ext2?
[11:53] <sedat> searching for it now
[11:53] <NiLz> + i have an error on startup
[11:53] <slept> BockBilbo, ask ubotu or dpkg for a howto , and if you decide to make your whole disk lvm , keep round 50MB for boot which mustnt be lvm
[11:53] <VoX> nilz: what error
[11:53] <sedat> looks like somebody took it
[11:53] <sedat> so cant test
[11:53] <dazvid> Are there any programs I can use to record video from a webcam?
[11:53] <thoreauputic> NiLz: it satarts as ext2 - then adds the journal
[11:54] <p0windah> great_lookz: if you arent prepared to read, what makes you think people in here are gonna do it for you ?
[11:54] <ulisse> I have a strange behaviour with Nautilus, I want to know if it happens to others too, before opening a bug
[11:54] <NiLz> that e2fsck is unable to do smth, cause the fs has some unsupported features
[11:54] <thoreauputic> NiLz: ext3 is just ext2 + journalling
[11:54] <NiLz> and I have to press ctrl+d to continue with booting
[11:54] <apsync> seems like I can't play mp3's, where can I find the standard codecs for ubuntu?
[11:54] <ulisse> my Nautilus speaks italian, but after midnight it becomes englis...
[11:54] <NiLz> thoreauputic: the journalling is pretty essential :)
[11:54] <sedat> lol
[11:54] <NiLz> thoreauputic: I mean speedwise
[11:54] <VoX> ulisse: heh that's a bit odd
[11:54] <apsync> "There were no decoders found"
[11:54] <walde> NiLz, what is the errormessage during bootup?
[11:54] <gwenks> how am I going to install yahoo messenger??
[11:54] <great_lookz> ok thanks anyway
[11:54] <BockBilbo> thanks slept gonna google about it
[11:55] <brownie17> ulisse, simple solution: "go to bed earlier :)"
[11:55] <NiLz> walde: lemme check the dmesg, 1 sec
[11:55] <thoreauputic> NiLz: yes, journalling is nice to have, indeed :)
[11:55] <gwenks> yahoo says i have to go to "RooT" and type a certain command
[11:56] <sedat> terminal = sudo before every command
[11:56] <galorin> gwenks, I've found GAIM to be a good program, that speaks Yahoo
[11:56] <ulisse> brownie17, VoX, so I think it happens only to me...
[11:56] <gwenks> how am i going to the root and type a certain command
[11:56] <_rb_> how do i fix cirular dependencies with apt-get ?
[11:56] <sedat> gwenks, put sudo and the the command
[11:56] <NiLz> walde: ah. well can't find it in the dmesg, anyway it says something about my filesystem which has some unsupported features and that I should get a newer version of e2fsck there's a shell
[11:56] <NiLz> and I need to press ctrl+d to continue booting
[11:56] <sedat> sudo apt-get ... for instance
[11:56] <thoreauputic> _rb_: should not happen unless your /etc/apt/sources.list is wrong
[11:57] <apsync> how can I test my sound is working?
[11:57] <walde> NiLz, just an idea. Do you compiled a new kernel without ext3?
[11:57] <p0windah> :)
[11:57] <[LethAL] > apsync, Play a sound?
[11:57] <apsync> yes.
[11:57] <apsync> not working
[11:57] <thoreauputic> apsync: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[11:57] <apsync> maybe codecs?
[11:57] <_rb_> trying to install cinelerra
[11:57] <[LethAL] > You might need to turn it up, Ubuntu is quiet
[11:57] <thoreauputic> apsync: that should make a noise
[11:57] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:58] <sedat> i guess the same questions get asked about 100 times a day not?
[11:58] <thoreauputic> sedat: pretty much, yes :)
[11:58] <BockBilbo> is it possible to umount  a swap partition?
[11:58] <apsync> hmm
[11:58] <p0windah> yup
[11:59] <gwenks> galorin: GAIM? but how can show my list of contcts?
[11:59] <p0windah> BockBilbo: swapoff the partition and then set your swappiness to 0
[12:00] <apsync> seems like my sound is not working or I am missing mp3/avi codecs
[12:00] <gwenks> where am i going to get the SUDO? im no that technical.. thnks
[12:00] <BockBilbo> p0windah, where do i set my swappiness to 0?
[12:00] <thoreauputic> !tell apsync about codecs
[12:00] <galorin> gwenks, it'll show all of the ones currently online, and in toolspreferences you can set it to see all the offline ones too.
[12:00] <p0windah> its in /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[12:00] <BockBilbo> thanks
[12:00] <sedat> startmenu - aids - terminal
[12:00] <pluffsy> hello
[12:00] <sedat> or something like that
[12:00] <BockBilbo> i gues just a cat 0>/proc/sys/vm/swappiness right?
[12:01] <sedat> startmenu is lefttop corner of screen
[12:01] <pluffsy> I can't seem to get this character:  on top of another character as I can on other OS:es. how do I solve that?
[12:01] <galorin> gwenks, sorry, under buddies
[12:01] <p0windah> BockBilbo: yeah, do that for testing first. if its all good use vm.swappiness=0 in /etc/sysctlo.conf
[12:01] <BockBilbo> ok
[12:01] <sedat> then you can type the command yahoo thing asks you to
[12:01] <pluffsy> it turns out like this when I try: emile
[12:01] <sedat> you cant go gui-root afaik
[12:01] <p0windah> BockBilbo: I dont need to tell you that you should have enough ram so this wont cause problems
[12:02] <crimsun> pluffsy: add the character pallet utility to your panel
[12:02] <crimsun> pluffsy: and/or set a compose key
[12:02] <BockBilbo> p0windah, i have 1 Gb
[12:02] <BockBilbo> ;)
[12:02] <pluffsy> crimsun, what is a compose key?
[12:02] <p0windah> BockBilbo: and use echo "0" >,... not cat 0
[12:02] <BockBilbo> p0windah, yeah.. it was my bad
[12:03] <BockBilbo> cat is to read, echo its to print in screen
[12:03] <BockBilbo> :S
[12:03] <BockBilbo> brb
[12:03] <dazvid> Are there any programs I can use to record video from a webcam?
[12:03] <NiLz> walde: nope, I'm using a stock kernel
[12:03] <crimsun> pluffsy: it's a key that allows you to use the extended chars (hence the "compose" name)
[12:03] <_rb_> anyone able to help me ? i need xf86vidmode for cinelerra. cant find it anywhere
[12:03] <NiLz> walde: + my / and /boot are mounted as ext3
[12:03] <crimsun> pluffsy: like this-> 
[12:04] <sedat> anyone got to play cs:source under ubntu???
[12:04] <NiLz> walde: this one partition which has these proublems was not formatted during the setup
[12:04] <dazvid> sedat: I surely need to
[12:04] <p0windah> I tried with ati, no dice
[12:04] <NiLz> walde: and it was created in fedora core
[12:04] <NiLz> walde: so I suspect it might have something to do with SElinux
[12:04] <crimsun> pluffsy: for instance, under System> Preferences> Keyboard> Layout Options> Compose key position, I set the right Ctrl on my UK keyboard to be compose
[12:05] <gwenks> galorin: what is the "SCREEN Name for?" is it my user name?
[12:05] <crimsun> pluffsy: then to make the , I hold Compose and type ', then I type e
[12:05] <p0windah> anyone here involved with asian localisation efforts and know whether alternate input methods are on the books for ubuntu in the future ?
[12:05] <sedat> yep
[12:05] <sedat> gwenkz
[12:06] <sedat> your nickname
[12:06] <galorin> gwenks, yes it is
[12:06] <apsync> I don't have gstreamer0.8-mad (in Synaptic) like it says on the webpage
[12:07] <nalioth> !tell apsync about sources
[12:07] <nooB> sir i need help on installing ubuntu iso installer? why isnt it booting in my cd drive?
[12:07] <gwenks> galorin: thank yu
[12:07] <sedat> bios
[12:07] <sedat> startup order nooB
[12:08] <apsync> nalioth, in which package is it?
[12:08] <robzon> woohoo! amarok 1.3.1 in breezy :)
[12:08] <sedat> or try pressing del, f10, f12 and so on during bios spash screen
[12:08] <ubuntu_> weeeeeeeeeeeeee
[12:08] <sedatc> I have downloaded a package named 'lale' by adding an extra repository but it couldnt manage to install it . When I try to delete extra rep I added my SPM says 'I have to reinstall lale but I couldnt find an archive for it'
[12:08] <dazvid> How can I get ubuntu to recognise a USB webcam?
[12:08] <nalioth> !info gstreamer0.8-mad
[12:08] <ubotu> gstreamer0.8-mad: (MAD MPEG audio decoder plugin for GStreamer), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.8.8-1ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 136 kB
[12:09] <crimsun> dazvid: plug it in
[12:09] <dazvid> I did ;)
[12:09] <p0windah> heh
[12:09] <ubuntu_> can anyone help me how to install games here
[12:09] <nalioth> sedatc: using unofficial repos is a recipe for a dead box
[12:09] <sedatc> since I couldnt update ubuntu
[12:09] <apsync> hmmm.. universe libs
[12:09] <gwenks> galorin thnks
[12:09] <nalioth> ubuntu_: use synaptic and look in the "games" section
[12:09] <galorin> ubuntu_, which games?
[12:09] <sedatc> nalioth, what can I do now
[12:09] <galorin> gwenks, np
[12:10] <sedatc> nalioth, I think the repo is trustful
[12:10] <nalioth> sedatc: remove that URL from your sources.list, reload your apt and hope things aint screwed
[12:10] <gwenks> galorin, but why is it that at always says " Disconnected"
[12:11] <nalioth> sedatc: paste your sources.list to a pastebin, please
[12:11] <sedatc> nalioth, how to reload apt
[12:11] <nalioth> sedatc: "sudo apt-get update"
[12:11] <sedatc> nalioth, I did this
[12:11] <nalioth> sedatc: and what errors did you get?
[12:11] <sedat> opera is in the multiverse repositories rite?
[12:12] <galorin> gwenks, you offline, or others offline?
[12:12] <yonil> How do i set a remote printer (on a windows machine) - i've tried setting it, but printing doesnt work. specificaly, what should i set in the username and password fields ?
[12:12] <nalioth> sedat: get opera from its homepage
[12:12] <sedatc> nalioth,  I get an error like I said above 'I have to reinstall lale but couldnt find an archive'
[12:12] <lastnode> any reccomendations for dtp apps for ubuntu?
[12:12] <nalioth> sedatc: so remove lale
[12:12] <gwenks> galorin, no im not
[12:12] <ompaul> sedat, put the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list into http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[12:13] <sedatc> nalioth, When I try it says the package is in a very inconsistent state
[12:13] <nalioth> lastnode: ubotu loves you
[12:13] <walde> NiLz, thats seems to be a tricky problem. Hope this can help you: http://www.mail-archive.com/trilug@trilug.org/msg26479.html
[12:13] <sedat> i did, but the installer needs a Motif thingy
[12:13] <galorin> gwenks, tools>accounts and check online and auto-login
[12:13] <sedat> got it to install +/-
[12:13] <nalioth> sedatc: it will remove
[12:14] <sedat> it has something to do with the static thing being compiled under freebsd
[12:14] <ompaul> lastnode,  scribus
[12:14] <sedat> still no mozolla plugin support
[12:15] <ompaul> sedat, you have been asked to put the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list into http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/    <<< this should help a lot in diagnosing your problems
[12:15] <sedat> *sedatc or sedat?
[12:15] <ompaul> sedat, ahhhhh that make sense  :)
[12:16] <nooB> can anyone help me, how can i install the ubuntu iso. into my comp after burning it. it seems not booting into my system
[12:16] <nooB> pls help me.
[12:16] <sedat> nooB u need to get a bios option screen
[12:16] <p0windah> nooB: have you double checked your BIOS allows booting from CD ?
[12:17] <sedat> ull need screwdriver and some solder equipment
[12:17] <nalioth> ompaul: c'mon man, cant you tell your sedat* from your sedat* ?
[12:17] <thoreauputic> nooB: did you check your BIOS boot order as suggested?
[12:17] <nalioth> ompaul: ;)
[12:17] <nooB> yes i did, pardon but what a bios setup screen? thanks for the help.
[12:17] <Kuolio> nooB: you need to make a bootable cd from .iso, not just burn that .iso on a data cd, have you done that?
[12:17] <yonil> I try changing the username/ password field in a printer settings and it wont let me .. it doesnt save the new values
[12:18] <ompaul> nalioth, na - its (A) too early  and (B) not enough coffee installed yet :), good morning to you
[12:18] <sedat> get deepburner if your on windows
[12:18] <nalioth> ompaul: howdy do
[12:18] <rawler> heya! anyone knows about libavcodec, and if there is a package that fixes the problems?
[12:18] <thoreauputic> nooB: if you look at the contents of the CD do you see one file, or a whole bunch of files?
[12:18] <lastnode> when i do get-apt install tor, and run it
[12:18] <lastnode> "i get acting on config options left us in a broken state. dying"
[12:18] <apsync> hi, how can I check that my sound is on mute or not?
[12:18] <ompaul> nalioth, other than that, lots of plans (short ones) for today
[12:18] <nalioth> lastnode: we are not a tor help channel
[12:19] <thoreauputic> apsync: type alsamixer in a terminal
[12:19] <nooB> yes i did, using nero. then what after booting. i cant see any saetup.exe like in windows
[12:19] <sedatc> nalioth, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2247
[12:19] <nooB> setup.exe
[12:19] <thoreauputic> apsync: m to toggle mute/unmute
[12:19] <sedat> restart
[12:19] <ompaul> nooB, there is no exe in Linux
[12:19] <p0windah> nooB: when it reboots, it will automatically start running
[12:19] <lastnode> nalioth: heh, sorry ill ask in #tor
[12:19] <p0windah> nooB: it is very different from what windows looks like
[12:19] <ompaul> nooB, reboot and leave the disk in there
[12:20] <thoreauputic> nooB: you might have just dumped the .iso on the disk instead of burning it as an image
[12:20] <gwenks> YAHOOOOOO ....................... Thank you so much Galorin
[12:20] <gwenks> one more thing galorin
[12:20] <nooB> how will i burn it as an image thoreauputic????? thanks
[12:20] <ompaul> nooB have you rebooted since you burnt the disk?
[12:20] <walde> nooB, you know, that you cant easily install linux into a running window-filesystem? You need extra partitions for that.
[12:21] <nalioth> sedatc: are you familiar with compiling?
[12:21] <benuk> hey
[12:21] <nooB> yes. then it booted like DOS ompaul
[12:21] <thoreauputic> nooB: I'm not familiar with windows burning apps, but you need to burn it as an image
[12:21] <lastnode> there is no man entry for "talk" or "ktalk"
[12:21] <sedat> try DeepBurner.com
[12:21] <lastnode> can i apt get these
[12:21] <lastnode> ?
[12:21] <sedat> can't go wrong there
[12:21] <benuk> when i try to install breezy, it trys to load etc/hotplug/usb.rc and hangs
[12:21] <benuk> anyone know why?
[12:22] <p0windah> it doesnt like one of your devices ?
[12:22] <gwenks> maybe NERO could be more efficient
[12:22] <ari_> where in the wiki are breezy post-update commands?
[12:22] <nalioth> benuk: have you md5d your iso image/ burnt disc?
[12:22] <thoreauputic> nooB: if when you look at the disk in windows, you see only one file, then you burnt it the wrong way
[12:22] <nalioth> ari_: breezy post update commands are none
[12:22] <sedat> http://www.deepburner.com/pr.php?image=images/screen1.gif burn iso option
[12:22] <VoX> how do i get a specific ubuntu 32-bit lib?
[12:22] <benuk> nalioth: yep
[12:22] <nalioth> ari_: your breezy will let you know when it need updating
[12:23] <ompaul> nooB, then what happened?
[12:23] <ari_> ok, thanks
[12:23] <nalioth> benuk: and they check out?
[12:23] <ompaul> nooB, that is the start of the install
[12:23] <benuk> yeah
[12:23] <pwlogin>   ?
[12:23] <nalioth> benuk: other than burning the cd at a slower speed, the only other thing i can offer is: is the hardwar functional?
[12:24] <VoX> how do i get ubuntu to install a 32-bit lib that i need on an amd64 system?
[12:24] <benuk> windows works
[12:24] <nooB> thats it it just stayed on a:\ like in DOS
[12:24] <benuk> on it atm
[12:24] <ompaul> it stayed on A:\ emm that is not ubuntu
[12:24] <VoX> anyone?
[12:24] <thoreauputic> VoX: you will need a chroot to use 32 bit stuff on amd64, if you are using the amd64 Ubuntu
[12:25] <lastnode> lots of packages want libcap0.7
[12:25] <VoX> thoreauputic: yeah, but how do i get the 32-bit package?
[12:25] <nalioth> VoX: or you use apt to compile the lib for your box (preferred method)
[12:25] <lastnode> but it cant find it on universe
[12:25] <lastnode> suggestions?
[12:25] <nalioth> lastnode: enable all your repos
[12:25] <lastnode> that's in /etc/apt ?
[12:25] <ompaul> !tell lastnode about repos
[12:26] <nooB> its in winrar format 1st then i unzipped it then i burned it. its that the proper way to burn an iso isaw many files.
[12:26] <ompaul> lastnode, you can use synaptic to do some of the work like I just had the bot tell you
[12:26] <nalioth> nooB: no dont unrar it b4 you burn it
[12:26] <nalioth> nooB: just burn the .iso file as is. dont open it up
[12:27] <MarcN> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in breezy dies with "start_configlet: configlet in path /usr/share/configlets/aptconf is bad"
[12:27] <nooB> i will burn the winrar form ????? thanks.
[12:27] <MarcN> anyone see that before?  /me has no X
[12:27] !christel:*! : Best wishes from all of us to JamesOff on his wedding day!
[12:27] <lastnode> ompaul: thanks, im actually just playing around with get-apt :)
[12:27] <IngoNeM> cc
[12:28] <ompaul> nooB, you burn ubuntu-5.04-install-i386.iso
[12:28] <VoX> how do i get apt to only download the 32-bit package, not the 64-bit one?
[12:28] <CrTr> How could I install .rpm ?
[12:28] <CrTr> file.rpm
[12:28] <ompaul> CrTr, that is not the way to do stuff - which application do you want to install?
[12:28] <thoreauputic> CrTr: in general, don't
[12:28] <ompaul> CrTr, prolly available already for ubuntu
[12:29] <CrTr> Cedega-20050607-cvs rpm
[12:30] <ompaul> CrTr, hmm u would pick that
[12:30] <CrTr> ?
[12:30] <thorsten> moin
[12:30] <walde> moin moin
[12:31] <nalioth> thorsten: grsstig
[12:31] <thorsten> ich hab ein wlan problem, kennt sich da jemand aus?
[12:31] <walde> thorsten, you are in an englishspeaking channel. switch to #ubuntu.de
[12:31] <ompaul> CrTr, have a look at this - rpm is redhat packet manager and advanced packet manager are different  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-9473.html
[12:32] <Trackilizer> art, are you in here dude?
[12:32] <thorsten> sory
[12:32] <Trackilizer> I need you're help.
[12:32] <CrTr> ompaul 10q
[12:32] <Trackilizer> I need you to do something for me please.
[12:32] <nalioth> walde: not very polite
[12:32] <{cYanide}> hey, er how can i remove a dir via the root terminal and all folders/files inside it? rmdir isnt working
[12:32] <Trackilizer> Are you in here art?
[12:33] <Trackilizer> Dude! i do really need your help.
[12:33] <thoreauputic> {cYanide}: rm -r
[12:33] <walde> nalioth, I can excuse myself in the german-speaking channel. i am just eating, drinking coffee and telephoning. hmmm, yes, it wasnt very polite. But that wasnt my intention.
[12:33] <lastnode> after i get a gui tool via get-apt, how do i add it to my applications menu?
[12:33] <nooB> yes i burn ubunt-5.04-install-i386.iso so what will i do next? thanks
[12:33] <brenner> {cYanide}: be very careful. :)
[12:33] <lsuactiafner> nooB : insert the cd, reboot the machine
[12:33] <nalioth> lastnode: it should show up immediately, if not, it will after you restart your panel
[12:33] <walde> nalioth, unfortunately he doesnt join the german channel .he quits ....
[12:34] <lsuactiafner> nooB : if the install process doesnt start, then change the bootup order to cdrom fist in the bios
[12:34] <nalioth> walde: unfortunately
[12:34] <robotgeek> {cYanide}: rm -rf <dir> BEWARE!
[12:34] <brenner> lastnode: if it doesn't add itself, you can use smeg
[12:34] <nooB> i change that up, i am still burning the cd. there is no exe in linux is it?
[12:35] <thoreauputic> {cYanide}: as robotgeek says, be careful if you use the -f switch
[12:35] <lsuactiafner> nooB : no, no exe file
[12:35] <lsuactiafner> nooB : but the process starts itself up
[12:35] <nalioth> nooB: not like you think, no
[12:35] <lsuactiafner> its easier to install then windows
[12:35] <{cYanide}> its ok now i removed it,  i was trying to setup the wine cvs, but i accidently started setting it up as root and it didnt like that, so im just redoing it as standard
[12:36] <nooB> i made a data bootable image by using nero is that the correct way to burn it?
[12:36] <lastnode> brenner: syntax?
[12:36] <brenner> lsuactiafner: what about the partitioning stuff? :D can be a bit confusing for newbies
[12:36] <lsuactiafner> nooB : no idea, but it sounds correct.
[12:36] <walde> thorsten, sorry, I dont wanted to be unpolite :-) It was just a hint to use the german channel :-)
[12:36] <vrln> I just switched to ubuntu yesturday - I'm trying to compile a new (ck) kernel for it. What I want to do is use the exact same config as ubuntu uses - this is all ok so far. My problem is the initrd. How can I create an identical initrd like the distribution itself uses? What does the initrd actually contain? (in other words, if it just has the filesystem module, perhaps I could just add the filesystem to my kernel and then I wouldn't need
[12:36] <vrln>  an initrd at all?)
[12:36] <thoreauputic> nooB: no - you need to choose the image option
[12:36] <{cYanide}> noob if you just burn the disc image and burn it, it will be fine
[12:36] <{cYanide}> er i mean
[12:36] <lsuactiafner> brenner : you think windows xp install is more difficult?
[12:36] <{cYanide}> lol select the disc image
[12:36] <lsuactiafner> took me 2 tries to get XP running
[12:36] <brenner> lsuactiafner: no.
[12:37] <thoreauputic> nooB: you want an exact clone of the iso image in other words
[12:37] <lsuactiafner> brenner : meant to say XP *is* more difficult to install.
[12:37] <nooB> even if its in winrar form? cyanide?
[12:37] <{cYanide}> winrar opens iso files
[12:37] <brenner> lastnode: ?
[12:37] <Whistler> is it possible to install Dillo using apt-get?
[12:37] <thenuke> Whistler: sure
[12:37] <lsuactiafner> who read dildo?
[12:37] <nalioth> nooB: yes even tho it looks like a rar, as long as it has .iso at the end
[12:37] <{cYanide}> just open nero, and there should be an option to open the iso in the file menu
[12:37] <nalioth> Whistler: yes it is
[12:37] <thoreauputic> nooB: it *isn't* winrar - it's an ISO - the file association with winrar is silly
[12:38] <{cYanide}> then just burn
[12:38] <thoreauputic> nooB: I mean not you - the program association
[12:38] <lsuactiafner> i need to go shower..
[12:38] <lsuactiafner> bbl
[12:38] <brenner> lsuactiafner: that's interesting...to be honest, i can't see how you can go wrong. :-/
[12:39] <thoreauputic> Whistler: probably in the universe repo (haven't checked)
[12:39] <nalioth> !info dillo
[12:39] <ubotu> dillo: (GTK-based web browser), section universe/web, is extra. Version: 0.8.3-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 267 kB, Installed size: 688 kB
[12:39] <Whistler> thoreauputic i found it allready thx
[12:39] <thoreauputic> Whistler: cool :)
[12:39] <walde> nooB, http://www.petri.co.il/how_to_write_iso_files_to_cd.htm
[12:40] <vrln> anyone?
[12:40] <brenner> wow, that's really small...
[12:40] <lyndon> how can i copy a file in other network computer ?
[12:40] <nalioth> vrln: that is not productive. ask your question again. "anyone" doesnt help anything
[12:40] <brenner> dillo, that is.
[12:40] <vrln> nalioth: I asked the question already - scroll up :) didn't want to repeat
[12:41] <thoreauputic> brenner: it's blindingly quick too - but limited
[12:41] <vrln> in a nutshell, what does the ubuntu initrd contain
[12:41] <nalioth> vrln: repeating is optimal, as long as you dont repeat too often
[12:41] <thoreauputic> brenner: no javascript. frames, https etc
[12:41] <Whistler> emm where is the run button in breezy?
[12:41] <nalioth> Whistler: run button?
[12:41] <sedat> terminal
[12:41] <deFrysk> Whistler, alt-f2
[12:42] <vrln> and if you use the default config, I assume it will require an initrd :) what I'm trying to achieve is a standard ubuntu kernel with the ck patch
[12:42] <brenner> nalioth, thoreauputic: guess there had to be a downside. :)
[12:42] <Whistler> deFrysk thx
[12:42] <deFrysk> Whistler, you can ala add it seperatly to you pannel
[12:42] <onkarshinde> which program can be used to save dvd to hard disk? Can I save it in multiple files?
[12:43] <nalioth> jdef: the man with the plan
[12:43] <{cYanide}> erm is there a way to install the latest gnome?
[12:43] <nalioth> onkarshinde: dvdrip
[12:43] <Whistler> deFrysk how do i add it?
[12:43] <thoreauputic> {cYanide}: install Breezy I guess :)
[12:43] <nalioth> {cYanide}: install breezy
[12:43] <deFrysk> Whistler, rightklick panel >add .choose run
[12:43] <onkarshinde> nalioth: Have you used it?
[12:44] <nalioth> onkarshinde: not personally no
[12:44] <nalioth> onkarshinde: i use one of my other macs to rip dvds (for backup purposes)
[12:44] <Whistler> deFrysk Oh thx :)
[12:44] <deFrysk> add to panel that is you can even drag and drop it in
[12:44] <brenner> onkarshinde: i've heard good things
[12:44] <Whistler> how do i mount iso files?
[12:45] <onkarshinde> brenner: I didn't get what you mean.
[12:45] <brenner> onkarshinde: i've heard good things about dvdrip
[12:45] <thoreauputic> Whistler: mount -o loop foo.iso /mount/point
[12:45] <kemik> Whistler:  "sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop isofile.iso /mountpoint/
[12:45] <Whistler> thx
[12:45] <Whistler> :)
[12:46] <onkarshinde> brenner: Ok. But it has a lot of dependencies. And I am currently on dial-up. So probably won;t install it.
[12:46] <samu2> Ok, now some process has locked up my soundcard so I can't play stuff in rhythmbox. What process should i kill?
[12:46] <mirak> hi there is a broken package in breezy, is that know problem ?
[12:47] <onkarshinde> mirak: which one?
[12:47] <mirak>  valgrind-callgrind: Conflicts: valgrind (> 1:2.6)
[12:47] <mirak> readahead-list: Conflicts: readahead mais 1:0.20050328.0142-0ubuntu4 doit tre install
[12:48] <onkarshinde> mirak: Is it a package from universe?
[12:49] <mirak> onkarshinde: don't know
[12:49] <brenner> samu2: try esd
[12:49] <mirak> onkarshinde: yes
[12:50] <samu2> no esd processes listed by grep -A
[12:51] <mirak> onkarshinde: I remove them
[12:51] <_anti-net_> Hi, i want to setup a mail server (pop3) on my ubuntu box, any suggestions on what software i should use?
[12:52] <mirak> _anti-net_: you should install an imap server
[12:52] <samu2> How can I found out what process is locking up the sound card?
[12:52] <mirak> _anti-net_: courierimap plus squirelmail
[12:52] <holycow> anyone here run mythtv on ubuntu?
[12:52] <mirak> squirrelmail
[12:52] <mirak> holycow: me
[12:52] <topyli> _anti-net_: dovecot maybe. it's easy to set up and supports pop and imap
[12:52] <_anti-net_> thanks mirak
[12:53] <holycow> mirak, you use hauppage cards?
[12:53] <mirak> holycow: it's a nice programm but not easy to setup
[12:53] <slept> samu2, lsof |grep dsp
[12:53] <mirak> holycow: #mythtv-users
[12:53] <holycow> mirak, i'm getting some really weird issues, was wondering if i can compare notes
[12:53] <holycow> that channel is useless for any serious debugging
[12:53] <holycow> you can't possibly suggest that?
[12:54] <mirak> holycow: what ?
[12:54] <mirak> try #mythtv then
[12:54] <holycow> what do you mean what?
[12:54] <holycow> dude stop giving me useless information
[12:54] <samu2> slept, nothing came up
[12:54] <lastnode> how do I add an application to the gnome app panel?
[12:54] <lastnode> i was told to use smeg
[12:54] <holycow> i just wanted to ask if you are using hoary and hauppage cards, thats it
[12:54] <lastnode> but there is no man entry on it
[12:54] <holycow> and kernel
[12:55] <CrTr> how to install ati drivers 4 ubuntu ?
[12:55] <holycow> oh and ivtv driver version
[12:55] <slept> samu2, how do you know its locked and not muted ?
[12:55] <brenner> !smeg
[12:55] <ubotu> from memory, smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[12:55] <mirak> holycow: I am not going to help you
[12:55] <brenner> !ati
[12:55] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[12:55] <holycow> fine, then shutup
[12:55] <holycow> jesus, why say anything at all
[12:55] <pinucset> when the ubuntu stable release? :(
[12:55] <holycow> goddamned retartds everywhere
[12:55] <lastnode> thanks brenner
[12:55] <mirak> holycow: continue to be unpolite like that and you will never get help
[12:56] <holycow> lol then go fuck your self, you had no intention in the first place
[12:56] <brenner> lastnode: np
[12:56] <holycow> except to play channel chairs
[12:56] <samu2> slept, rhythm box "Cannot open resource for writing"
[12:56] <nalioth> holycow: pleaee
[12:56] <lastnode> brenner: synaptic should have that right?
[12:56] <ubuntulnx> hello! can someone explain howto enable acpi on bootup (as kernel parameter)?
[12:56] <slept> samu2, killall esd ?
[12:56] <brenner> lastnode: if you enable backports, yes
[12:57] <mirak> holycow: va sucer des bites
[12:57] <lastnode> brenner: backports?
[12:57] <lastnode> !backports
[12:57] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[12:57] <samu2> slept, oh it maybe that it expects esd to run but i killed it to run other media players...?
[12:57] <lastnode> :)
[12:57] <brenner> ubuntulnx: should be enabled by default :-/
[12:57] <brenner> lastnode: that's the way. :)
[12:57] <brenner> saves me typing it
[12:57] <samu2> Yeah that did it.
[12:57] <nalioth> mirak: be civil
[12:57] <samu2> So this is an awesome system!
[12:57] <mirak> nalioth: be fair
[12:57] <mirak> nalioth: sorry I won't do that anymore
[12:58] <nalioth> mirak: fair? suck my dick is fair?
[12:58] <nalioth> mirak: you are lucky to be back in here
[12:58] <mirak> nalioth: you let him say "go fuck yourself"
[12:58] <mirak> nalioth: that's what I meabn by fair
[12:58] <ubuntulnx> brenner, im looking for cpu temperature in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone, but there is nothing there..
[12:58] <mirak> or unfair
[12:58] <samu2> I have to manually start esd to use rhythm box then kill the process to use other players in between...
[12:58] <lastnode> !backport
[12:58] <ubotu> well, backport is see !backports
[12:58] <lastnode> sorry lost the uri
[12:58] <lastnode> !backports
[12:58] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[12:59] <dskloet> Hi, is anyone here using Breezy? Should it currently work?
[12:59] <brenner> lastnode: /msg ubotu <trigger> in future to avoid flooding :)
[12:59] <lastnode> !backports
[12:59] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[12:59] <lastnode> thanks brenner, sorry
[12:59] <onkarshinde> what is apm exactly? And how to unable it?
[12:59] <{cYanide}> oh one last thing,  er is there a way i can create a swap partition from within ubuntu
[12:59] <brenner> lol
[01:00] <mirak> nalioth: how do you know what it means by the way. You shouldn't ^^
[01:00] <ompaul> holycow, it is with regret that all I can offer you is http://tinyurl.com/7v2vv
[01:00] <lastnode> brenner: ubotu is not telling me anything :)
[01:00] <vrln> how to ubuntus bootup scripts handle kernels that have everything compiled inside?
[01:00] <{cYanide}> or is swap a bad idea? ive been foruming and some say its good and some its bad,
[01:00] <{cYanide}> but it seems wine needs a swap to run some things
[01:00] <brenner> lastnode: what don't you get?
[01:00] <vrln> ie, will I have problems if I use a non-modular kernel
[01:00] <slept>  onkarshinde  man apm
[01:00] <brenner> lastnode: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:00] <lastnode> its not giving me that data
[01:00] <holycow> ompaul, that is okay, you helped a great deal in the other channel :) at this point i'm mostly trying to compare hardware and software specs
[01:01] <holycow> ompaul, and my thanks :)
[01:01] <lastnode> brenner: i cant copy the string the channel scrolls too fast
[01:01] <lastnode> im slow on this trackpad
[01:01] <lastnode> and ubotu wont give me anything when i /msg him :)
[01:01] <mirak> holycow: chances are that your card is not supported yet, the chips have changed
[01:01] <brenner> lastnode: are you identified?
[01:01] <slept> onkarshinde, you dont want to unable it  unless you like pushing the powerbutton after shuting down
[01:01] <nalioth> brenner: he is not
[01:02] <dskloet> nobody using breezy?
[01:02] <mirak> holycow: use windows
[01:02] <mirak> lol
[01:02] <lastnode> brenner: of course
[01:02] <ompaul> {cYanide}, the reson people may not be answering is your use of braces, swap is always a good thing - has saved many a box in trouble - how much ram have you got
[01:02] <[Wiebel] > dskloet: yes
[01:02] <dskloet> wiebel: should it currently work?
[01:02] <[Wiebel] > it does for me :)
[01:02] <brenner> nalioth: haha </nelson>
[01:02] <dskloet> my X broke :(
[01:02] <[Wiebel] > i konw
[01:03] <[Wiebel] > read the error message
[01:03] <{cYanide}> i have 512 megs of ram, its just i tried running sacrifice via wine and it told me a warning about virtual memory and swap,
[01:03] <[LethAL] > My gnome broke
[01:03] <onkarshinde> One more question. How do i know if my video card supports any type of video acceleration?
[01:03] <vrln> dskloet: I am
[01:03] <{cYanide}> seeing as its an old game and runs fine on windows, i think it must be todo with swap space and not my actual ram
[01:03] <onkarshinde> And how do i enable it?
[01:03] <lsuactiafner> ompaul : i agree, even with 1G ram i never use swap but it kept my system stable under extreme loads to have a swap, used 600mb of it once
[01:03] <[LethAL] > onkarshinde: try running glxgears
[01:03] <brenner> lastnode: i've pm'ed the output
[01:03] <brenner> to you
[01:03] <dskloet> Wiebel:I got X working by changing the font paths in xorg.conf but now it hangs while loading gnome...
[01:03] <[Wiebel] > dskloet: use         Driver      "kbd"
[01:04] <[Wiebel] > for your keyboard
[01:04] <onkarshinde> [LethAL] : It runs
[01:04] <[Wiebel] > ow
[01:04] <nalioth> brenner: you cant send PMs either, you aren't identified
[01:04] <[LethAL] > onkarshinde: Is it very fast though?
[01:04] <[Wiebel] > that's odd
[01:04] <nalioth> no unidentified user may PM anyone else on freenode at this time
[01:04] <[Wiebel] > only thing i had to change was the keyboard driver
[01:04] <brenner> nalioth: yeah...just found out....
[01:04] <onkarshinde> [LethAL] : Quite. But I ahven't run it before. There fore fast is relative term
[01:04] <ompaul> {cYanide}, I asked a specific qustion for a reason, you saw no reason to answer the question, I did not do that for fun, call me strange for asking questions that may lead to me being able to help you but thats just me, ask anyone who has seen me do this before :)
[01:04] <sly> wanting lil help :) ( as useual ) , say ive got a file in ~/Stuff/File      how would i make it so in terminal when ever i type file it runs ~/Stuff/File
[01:04] <sly> ?
[01:04] <dskloet> wiebel: is the keyboard causing the problem?
[01:04] <[LethAL] > onkarshinde: I mean... way too fast... run in in the terminal and read the fps, should be able 200 FPS
[01:05] <brenner> nalioth: so you didn't get my reply to your pm? :)
[01:05] <{cYanide}> sorry?
[01:05] <[Wiebel] > dskloet: i don't know on you're X
[01:05] <{cYanide}> i answered
[01:05] <{cYanide}> 512
[01:05] <[Wiebel] > dskloet: but it was on mine
[01:05] <nalioth> brenner: not while you were unknown, no
[01:05] <ompaul> {cYanide}, you did not preface it with my nick so I did not see it :)
[01:05] <onkarshinde> [LethAL] : It is normally 3000 FPS
[01:05] <{cYanide}> ahh
[01:05] <ompaul> {cYanide}, 1G of swap to you
[01:05] <dskloet> wiebel: did you have problems with gnome or only with X?
[01:05] <[Wiebel] > dskloet: no issues with gnome
[01:06] <[LethAL] > onkarshinde: Something insane, yeah
[01:06] <[Wiebel] > dskloet: try a clean user
[01:06] <onkarshinde> [LethAL] : What does that mean?
[01:06] <{cYanide}> ompaul, 1g, ok will i be able to make it via a root terminal or will i have todo it some other way?
[01:06] <dskloet> wiebel: like adduser test?
[01:06] <[Wiebel] > yeah
[01:06] <ompaul> {cYanide}, have you any spare disk space?
[01:06] <[LethAL] > onkarshinde: Most likely yes
[01:07] <{cYanide}> ompaul, aye like 20 gig on this partition
[01:07] <onkarshinde> [LethAL] : Ok thanks.
[01:07] <brenner> nalioth: probably for the better, my joke wasn't funny. :)
[01:07] <ompaul> {cYanide} not in use
[01:07] <dskloet> wiebel: I could also try another wm but I don't know which. I'd like icewm but it's not in the repository yet.
[01:07] <{cYanide}> ompaul, im not "using" it as such, but it is part of this linux partition
[01:07] <[LethAL] > !tell me about upgrade2breezy
[01:08] <[Wiebel] > dskloet: first try another user
[01:08] <[Wiebel] > if that doesnt work , try another wm
[01:08] <dskloet> wiebel: I'll do, brb
[01:09] <ompaul> {cYanide}, it needs to be empty
[01:09] <ompaul> {cYanide}, not part of any system
[01:09] <ompaul> {cYanide}, for optimal performance
[01:12] <dskloet> wiebel: tried the clean user, all the same. Gnome seems to hang on the third icon of the splash screen (Nautilus). But I can use the right mouseb button to create a folder and some other useless stuff.
[01:13] <dskloet> Is there a simpel wm I could use instead of gnome? (in the breezy repository)
[01:13] <[Wiebel] > kde :)
[01:13] <alessio> sorry
[01:13] <[Wiebel] > windowmaker
[01:13] <nalioth> dskloet: enlightenment, xfce4, fluxbox, and many more
[01:14] <dskloet> I tried apt-get install windowmaker but the package was unknown...
[01:14] <alessio> i have risize 20gb of windows with hoary partition tool
[01:14] <[Wiebel] > but gnome should work
[01:14] <[Wiebel] > works fine here
[01:14] <alessio> to 10 gb for win + 10gb for ubuntu
[01:14] <alessio> grub does'nt load windows
[01:14] <alessio> ntldr missing
[01:14] <ompaul> {cYanide},  resizing is supposed to be possible, however you may loose all your data - if you have only installed I would suggest a reinstall with 1G for swap 10G for home and 9G for / tell the partition manager about theim in the order / swap /home
[01:15] <ompaul> {cYanide}, sorry I have no better ideas on that one
[01:15] <dskloet> Gnome doesn't work here :(. But anything that works is good for now...
[01:15] <{cYanide}> ompaul, ya oh well. i think i will leave it, seeing as it only seems to effect wine and i dont use that much
[01:15] <ompaul> {cYanide}, how long is the machine installed?
[01:16] <ompaul> {cYanide}, you can add ram without reconfiguring that is one thing :)
[01:16] <nanotech> i'm trying to upgrade to Breezy, i have a problem with xorg complaining about 'fixed' fonts. Do you have an idea on what i must have forgotten to install/update ?
[01:16] <alessio> any idea
[01:16] <xukun> is there some kind of guide for installing multimedia on Breezy
[01:16] <[Wiebel] > nanotech: try pasting the error
[01:16] <ompaul> !tell xukun about restricted
[01:16] <ompaul> !tell xukun about repos
[01:16] <nalioth> nanotech: in a pastebin
[01:16] <alessio> ntldr missing ... what can i do?
[01:16] <Kuolio> xukun: use the hoary guide and ubuntu wiki
[01:17] <nalioth> alessio: go get one from a friend
[01:17] <{cYanide}> ompaul, its actually the gfs machine some dell 2400 , its not the uber beast im usedtoo, but i moved so it has todo till i get a new
[01:17] <dskloet> nalioth: apt can't find any of the wm's you named :(
[01:17] <ompaul> xukun, read the messages from ubotu they will help
[01:17] <nanotech> nalioth: i can't because X is running without fonts (only firefox seems to work)
[01:17] <alessio> nalioth, i'm inside sheet :(
[01:18] <xukun> thanks ompaul , Kuolio
[01:18] <dskloet> nonatech: I could solve that problem by changing the fontpaths in xorg.conf
[01:18] <alessio> why does'nt grub load windows?
[01:18] <dskloet> nanotech: from /usr/lib/* to /usr/share/*
[01:18] <dskloet> nanotech: but now I'm stuck with a not working gnome...
[01:18] <nalioth> nanotech: are you familiar with the terminal?
[01:19] <nanotech> nalioth: yes
[01:19] <nanotech> dskloet: trying to cp them
[01:19] <wingman920> help me plz. just installed ubuntu and it stopped at 6% Retrieving Bsdutils....ive burned the dowmloaded iso image twice at 8x speed.
[01:19] <brenner> alessio: more info needed
[01:19] <brenner> alessio: ie any errors?
[01:19] <nalioth> nanotech: do a apt-cache seach fonts and install the xfonts-blah
[01:20] <wingman920> help me plz. just installed ubuntu and it stopped at 6% Retrieving Bsdutils....ive burned the dowmloaded iso image twice at 8x speed.
[01:20] <alessio> any error..
[01:20] <alessio> only ntldr
[01:20] <lsuactiafner> wingman920 : iso might be currupted
[01:20] <dskloet> nanotech: cp what? you can edit the file
[01:20] <nanotech> nalioth: i did, only xfonts-*-transcoded couldn't be installed
[01:20] <ompaul> wingman920, breezy / hoary and don't repeat your telling over 400 people the same thing in seconds not good
[01:20] <alessio> after risize with hoarty tool
[01:20] <lsuactiafner> and wingman920 : wait 20 minutes before repeating your questions
[01:20] <nanotech> dskloet: it's already updated
[01:20] <alessio> an installation on secon partition
[01:20] <nalioth> nanotech: oh my. did you say 'breezy'?
[01:20] <wingman920> whats the best site for the good iso download
[01:20] <nanotech> nalioth: i did
[01:20] <dskloet> nanotech: and still the font is missing?
[01:20] <nalioth> nanotech: wait for the next update
[01:21] <nanotech> dskloet: yes
[01:21] <nalioth> nanotech: the xorg has been undergoing major bug fixes lately
[01:21] <lsuactiafner> wingman920 : any site on the ubuntu mirror list, your transfer might have been currupted for various reasons
[01:21] <nanotech> nalioth: alright, i hope it will be soon :)
[01:21] <dskloet> So is there any working wm in the breezy repository?
[01:21] <[Wiebel] > dskloet: kde
[01:21] <sauli> where i can find ubuntu boot floppies?
[01:22] <ompaul> dskloet, lots which one do you want to try - and have you got the repos installed?
[01:22] <[Wiebel] > windowmaker
[01:22] <[Wiebel] > etc
[01:22] <ompaul> dskloet, come to think of it which video card have you got?
[01:22] <nalioth> sauli: there are none
[01:22] <dskloet> wiebel: it says package unknown on those...
[01:22] <mdke> any ideas how I can turn my bluetooth radio off?
[01:22] <[Wiebel] > dskloet: not for me
[01:22] <dskloet> ompaul: asus riva tnt
[01:22] <[Wiebel] > i have them all
[01:22] <[Wiebel] > use multiverse
[01:22] <sauli> nalioth: oh really? i have weird problem in my new computer, it can boot live cd but not ubuntu install cd
[01:22] <nanotech> well thx all for your help, i need to go now and i'll try to fix it myself waiting for the update
[01:23] <ompaul> dskloet, can you put the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list into http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:23] <nalioth> sauli: check the md5 of your burnt disk and your iso image you used to burn it
[01:23] <dskloet> ompaul: I don't understand. (but I think I forget to add multiverse indeed)
[01:23] <sauli> i tried many cds and they are official cds
[01:23] <brownie17> why doesn't totem play dvd's?
[01:24] <dskloet> what is paste.ubuntulinux.nl?
[01:24] <brenner> !dvd
[01:24] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[01:24] <brownie17> dskloet, you paste stuff in there and give hte people in here the link
[01:24] <mdke> dskloet, it is a website which allows you to paste long outputs and show them to others
[01:24] <nalioth> dskloet: where you can paste things and not disrupt the channel
[01:24] <ompaul> dskloet, a place where you can paste lots of data so others can view it
[01:24] <nalioth> sauli: some of the official cds werent burnt properly
[01:24] <ugo> dskloet: paste.ubuntu.com
[01:24] <nalioth> sauli: or pressed properly
[01:25] <dskloet> I see, but you need a mouse working to paste right?
[01:25] <brenner> geeze...four replies, all saying the same thing. :D
[01:25] <mdke> ugo, ?
[01:25] <sauli> ok, then i just have to try with olla my cds :/
[01:25] <ugo> dskloet: ctrl-x cut ctrl-v paste
[01:25] <sauli> but thank you nalioth
[01:25] <mdke> ugo, there is no such url
[01:25] <dskloet> ugo: and selecting without a mouse?
[01:25] <nalioth> sauli: np
[01:26] <ugo> dskloet: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/
[01:26] <nalioth> sauli: there is a self test in the 'advanced options' of the installer
[01:26] <dskloet> ugo: I think I can manage in vim... thanks anyway
[01:26] <ugo> dskloet: sorri!
[01:26] <reiki> crimsun awake?
[01:26] <ompaul> dskloet, tell you what dcc it to me
[01:26] <xukun> isn't there also breezy-extra repository, or should I Just use the hoary-extra repostitory?
[01:26] <nalioth> reiki: havent seen crimsun in a while
[01:26] <reiki> okies... thanks
[01:26] <mdke> he is here
[01:26] <reiki> I just got up
[01:26] <nalioth> xukun: breezy wont have an extra repos until after its release
[01:27] <Cryptid> What is metacity, GTK 2.x, And GMD Themes
[01:27] <ompaul> nalioth, he was here yesterday
[01:27] <ugo> yeah....crismun ditched me in the middle of our openafs debugging jam session
[01:27] <xukun> I see
[01:27] <dskloet> ompaul: dcc? You know, I'm going to add multiverse and then return here...
[01:27] <nalioth> ompaul: reiki seeks him now
[01:27] <brenner> he was in here earlier
[01:27] <ugo> why u....?!!!?
[01:27] <ompaul> dskloet, and after that apt-get udpate
[01:27] <dskloet> ompaul: of course ;)
[01:27] <reiki> I just wanted to thank him for helping me get my mic working on my turtle beach santa cruz card. That was like.... one last hurdle thing
[01:27] <dskloet> ompaul: but thanks for reminding :)
[01:28] <nalioth> reiki: /msg him, he'll getit
[01:28] <charish17> hello ... im new here ... can ask some help?
[01:28] <nalioth> charish17: ask away
[01:28] <ompaul> !tell charish17 about as
[01:28] <ompaul> !tell charish17 about ask
[01:28] <ubuntulnx> brenner, im looking for cpu temperature in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone, but there is nothing there..
[01:28] <ompaul> nalioth, pm?
[01:28] <ugo> !tell ugo about ask
[01:29] <ugo> ok...smart question
[01:29] <brenner> ubuntulnx: yeah, i have no clue about temperature monitoring, sorry.....searched the forum?
[01:29] <ubuntulnx> yep
[01:30] <ugo> i had this problem compiling the openafs kernel module yesterday
[01:30] <brownie17> can somebody help me, i cannot find libdvdcss in synaptic, how do i open the hoary extra repos, i thought i had allready. will someone tell me if i have?
[01:30] <ubuntulnx> yep brenner, found lots of stuff re. laptop users, but nothing that i see serves sofar
[01:30] <ugo> on hoary...apparently its been bug listed already....
[01:30] <nalioth> !tell brownie17 about repos
[01:30] <ugo> the bug lister mentioned that he's running a release candidate that functions properly on his system....
[01:31] <reiki> cool... now to find a fchromatic instrument tuner for linux and I should be all set :)
[01:31] <reiki> "chromatic"
[01:31] <charish17> just installed ubuntu ...
[01:31] <ubuntulnx> brenner, do you know how the dsdt file is generated?
[01:31] <nalioth> reiki: ask in #kubuntu about the tuner
[01:31] <charish17> is it gui? or command line
[01:31] <nalioth> charish17: you should see a nice gui
[01:31] <reiki> nalioth: there's a tuner well known?  okies... thanks
[01:31] <charish17> im also new to linux
[01:31] <[Wiebel] > anyone seen firefox 1.0.7 packages for ubuntu?
[01:31] <dskloet> ompaul: I did something wrong, adding multiverse is just copying the two lines and changing main to multiverse, right?
[01:32] <ugo> apparently its debian and not ubuntu....my question now is can i run a debian package on ubuntu like afs which is somewhat kernel tied and not run into problems....
[01:32] <charish17> hmmm
[01:32] <brenner> ubuntulnx: seeing as how i don't know what that file is...probably not
[01:32] <charish17> i ended up in a command line
[01:32] <nalioth> ugo: it is not advised to use debian pkgs on ubuntu
[01:32] <ompaul> dskloet, I just add the word to the end of the line, but thats me :)
[01:32] <nalioth> charish17: at the console, type "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" if you want the gui
[01:32] <dskloet> ompaul: after restricted?
[01:32] <ubuntulnx> brenner, ok.. its the file that seems to describe the systems hardware to acpi
[01:32] <ompaul> dskloet, you got it
[01:33] <charish17> ok i'll try it
[01:33] <ompaul> ugo, better to build from source if it is not available natively on Ubuntu
[01:33] <dskloet> ompaul: on the existing lines or a copies of them?
[01:33] <ompaul> dskloet, both the same - I do it all on the one line
[01:33] <mirak> is there a way to not have kde applicatios showing in the gnome menu ?
[01:34] <ugo> ompaul: riiiighhtt...now what didn't i think of that
[01:34] <ompaul> dskloet, I am going to get the bot to send you info
[01:34] <ompaul> ugo, no idea
[01:34] <ompaul> !tell dskloet about repos
[01:34] <ompaul> dskloet, /msg ubotu restricted also given you are there
[01:35] <dreameen> hey folks
[01:35] <dreameen> tell me
[01:35] <dreameen> why ubuntu doesnt recognize my ipod?
[01:35] <dskloet> ompaul, there's now a magenta 3 on my screen... (i'm new to irc)
[01:35] <hnj> hi there
[01:36] <cafuego_> dreameen: Is it mac formatted? is it set to automount in the prefs, did you initialised it with gtkpod?
[01:36] <dskloet> ompaul: I'd like to paste my source.list but I don't think I have a copy/paste buffer without X...
[01:36] <nalioth> dskloet: hit ctrl-3
[01:36] <dreameen> cafuego, mac formatted? set to automount?
[01:36] <ugo> ompaul: its prolly because im brain fuzzed from this operating systems assignment
[01:36] <nalioth> dskloet: ctrl-2 to return here
[01:37] <ugo> ompaul: thanks though....ill work on it right away
[01:37] <dreameen> cafuego, the problem is, i cant see appropriate mountpoint for it in /dev
[01:37] <reiki> nalioth: thanks for that lead on the tuners... appreciated
[01:37] <dskloet> ompaul: ok, I found the info you sent me through the bot, thank, I'll have a look.
[01:37] <nalioth> reiki: i'm here to help (even if i have no clue what you're talking about)
[01:38] <reiki> heheh
[01:38] <dskloet> nalioth, thanks
[01:38] <nalioth> dskloet: np
[01:38] <dskloet> nalioth, it was alt instead of ctrl by the way
[01:38] <brownie17> can anybody help me, when i watch dvd's they always go out of sync. how can i set my system to use the ALSA sound system instead of ESD? or is that not the problem?
[01:38] <nalioth> dskloet: i run a mac, i just guessed
[01:38] <dskloet> nalioth, :)
[01:38] <nalioth> brownie17: you set your dma?
[01:39] <ompaul> ugo, what is the operating systems assignment?
[01:39] <brownie17> nalioth: yes, DMA is activated on all drives
[01:40] <nalioth> brownie17: then we're out of my field
[01:40] <brownie17> nalioth: what do you know about ESD and ALSA?
[01:40] <brownie17> nalioth, and what is GTK+?
[01:41] <cafuego_> brownie17: The widget set for Gnome. (Buttons, windows, sliders, everything)
[01:41] <dskloet> universe if also nice...
[01:41] <dskloet> is
[01:41] <nalioth> brownie17: gtk+ is a widget set (a programming package that tells the programs how to appear)
[01:41] <Krneki> hay i have problem
[01:41] <Krneki> i install apache
[01:41] <nalioth> brownie17: i know nothing about sound
[01:41] <Krneki> and now i can't remove itt
[01:41] <Krneki> it wrotes that something is currupted
[01:41] <brownie17> cafuego_, what do you know about the ESD and ALSA?
[01:42] <Krneki> i can' install or reinstall or remove anything
[01:42] <Krneki> can't
[01:42] <dskloet> now installing icewm, finally :)
[01:42] <cafuego_> brownie17: I know esd is a sound server and alsa a driver set.
[01:42] <ompaul> brownie17, if you use firefox and put this in the little box on the top right of the browser beside the magnifing glass >> define gtk+<< you will get lots of good info
[01:42] <Krneki> i think it is somekind of a bug
[01:42] <Krneki> please help
[01:42] <brownie17> cafuego_, i beleive there is a way you can set esd to noly run when it is needed?
[01:42] <lastnode> is switching between gnome and kde easy?
[01:43] <brownie17> ompaul, THANX
[01:43] <lastnode>  !backorders
[01:43] <ubotu> lastnode: Not a clue
[01:43] <ugo> ompaul: game that executes in kernel mode
[01:43] <lastnode> !backorders
[01:43] <ugo> ompaul: minesweeper
[01:43] <alienacion> er irc.tin.it
[01:43] <dreameen> that simply sux, ubuntu doesnt recognize my ipod!!
[01:43] <nalioth> lastnode: yes it is
[01:43] <keikoz> dreameen life's hard
[01:43] <dskloet> question: I gnome hang and the only way out I saw was ctrl-alt-backspace, but that also killed X. Was there another way which would just bring me back to gdm?
[01:43] <nalioth> dreameen: it will, but nobody in here knows how to help you now
[01:43] <brownie17> !ESD
[01:43] <ubotu> methinks esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.
[01:43] <lastnode> nalioth: think i might download it. how do you switch though? with synaptic?
[01:43] <brownie17> !ALSA
[01:43] <ubotu> I heard alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[01:43] <lyndon> could some one help me on how to access my computer into another computer ?
[01:44] <ugo> ompaul: id like the afs because i could mount my filespace directly on my laptop
[01:44] <nalioth> lastnode: at your login screen. click 'sessions'
[01:44] <ompaul> ugo, that I did not follow at all
[01:44] <nalioth> lyndon: install "openssh-server"
[01:44] <brenner> dskloet: wait a while and gdm should reload iirc
[01:44] <dskloet> brenner, but it was still trying to load gnome, but it hang...
[01:45] <lyndon> where  can i find openssh-server ?
[01:45] <ompaul> brownie17, you could also do /msg ubotu alsa and it would message you back thus meaning that people whould not have had so much happening which can be real hard for new users who are trying to follow a conversation
[01:45] <Sith_Tux> afternoon people
[01:45] <[Wiebel] > anyone any idea in what file firefox stores passwords?
[01:45] <ompaul> lyndon, dropbear is the one i use
[01:45] <brenner> dskloet: it hangs everytime gnome loads?
[01:45] <ugo> ompaul: the operating systems assignment is a game that executes in kernel mode
[01:45] <dskloet> brenner, yes
[01:45] <lyndon> how to install ?
[01:45] <Krneki> hay how to fix currupted packegaes
[01:46] <nalioth> !tell lyndon about synaptic
[01:46] <brenner> dskloet: usually a driver issue...
[01:46] <ugo> ompaul: were supposed to use it to test two interrupt handlers we wrote as well as a console driver
[01:46] <dskloet> brenner, not really, I can use my right mouse button...
[01:46] <ompaul> ugo, okay, however games in kernel space is just a bad idea :)
[01:46] <david_> i have a problem with updating firefox
[01:46] <david_> can anybody help me
[01:46] <dskloet> brenner, but the splash screen stays and I can't really do anything
[01:46] <Sith_Tux> i keep getting a on screen display: display changed: lcd off ....... what is the problem?
[01:46] <ORiON2012> [Wiebel] : I think it stores them hashed in ~/.mozilla/firefox/[profile] /signons.txt
[01:46] <ompaul> ugo, but for an assignment wellllll maybe
[01:46] <nalioth> david_: ask a logical question, please
[01:47] <ugo> ompaul: come on we all know that...the objective of the assignment is to test the drivers thoroughly....were going to depend on them on a more realistic assignment...
[01:47] <dskloet> But I just wondered whether there's something like ctrl-alt-backspace which brings me back to gdm istead of killing X.
[01:47] <david_> ubuntu wont let me replace the files in the firefox folder
[01:48] <nalioth> david_: you should update firefox using apt-get
[01:48] <dskloet> brenner, And is startx the way to go back to X and gdm?
[01:48] <david_> ok
[01:48] <david_> thanks
[01:48] <ugo> ompaul: but still id totally dig kernel-quake...! :-)
[01:48] <nalioth> dskloet: if it's hung, killin it is the only way
[01:48] <dskloet> nalioth, but how do I kill it? I can't get a terminal at that moment.
[01:48] <lastnode> how can i see the freespace i have on my linux partition?
[01:49] <fredforfaen> df -h
[01:49] <dskloet> lastnode, xdiskusage
[01:49] <Sith_Tux> anyone had this problem?
[01:49] <nalioth> dskloet: ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:49] <ORiON2012> dskloet: CTRL + ALT + F1, or try CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE to kill X
[01:49] <lastnode> dskloet: bash commenad not found
[01:50] <dskloet> nalioth, I thought you ment killing the gnome-session...
[01:50] <brownie17> a guide on the ubuntu forums has told me to restart my comp, wtf!?!?! everytime i say restart in here i get my head blown off
[01:50] <dskloet> lastnode, install it...
[01:50] <lastnode> !backorders
[01:50] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, lastnode
[01:50] <nalioth> brownie17: so restart. on *nix boxen, restarts are not as necessary as on windows boxen
[01:50] <lastnode> i forget that command
[01:50] <brownie17> ugo, :) hahaha
[01:50] <lastnode> i need to add to sources.list to get smeg
[01:51] <jsubl2> i want to  put breezy on my mac..  will the installer make room or do i need to run hdutils first or do i have to reload panther
[01:51] <ORiON2012> jsubl2: installer can format for you
[01:51] <brenner> !backports
[01:51] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[01:51] <jsubl2> thank ORiON2012
[01:52] <brenner> lastnode: i was wondering why you kept trying backorders. lol
[01:52] <ugo> brownie17: just making sure we get the job done right :-)
[01:52] <ompaul> !tell lastnode about backports
[01:52] <lastnode> sigh, thanks guys
[01:53] <nalioth> jsubl2: you have a ubuntu livecd?
[01:53] <jsubl2> no just the install cd
[01:53] <nalioth> jsubl2: the installer should give you the option to make some room
[01:53] <jsubl2> nalioth, ok.. will give it a shot
[01:53] <eSPete> when i want to use mplayer i have to deactivate sound in gnome, how do i make mplayer not wanting the ethinre soundcoar for itself?
[01:53] <nalioth> jsubl2: is it on another puter then the one you're on now?
[01:53] <brenner> jsubl2: it's a little hidden though
[01:54] <brenner> this was written for windows systems iirc, but still might be useful:
[01:54] <ORiON2012> eSPete: use a sound daemon like ESD
[01:54] <brenner> !resize
[01:54] <ubotu> resize is, like, totally, The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to make space to install Ubuntu.  Even so you should backup important files first.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning
[01:54] <lyndon> nalioth ther is no "openssh-server" in synaptic
[01:54] <[Wiebel] > hmz
[01:54] <rob^> pfft no it cant
[01:54] <[Wiebel] > the latest mplayerplugin seems broken
[01:54] <dreameen> k, got it working, i had to unload and then load these 3 modules manually: ieee1394, ohci1394, sbp2
[01:54] <nalioth> lyndon: really?
[01:55] <nalioth> !tell lyndon about sources
[01:55] <{cYanide}> erm if i right click on a windows exe, i get the option to open with cedega, but ive removed that since, is there a way i can remove that option
[01:55] <dreameen> nasty hack..i know, but hey it works;)
[01:55] <ORiON2012> lyndon: yes there is
[01:55] <{cYanide}> i removed it via the package manager, so im not sure why its still there
[01:55] <ORiON2012> lyndon: in main
[01:55] <florg> wow. ubuntu is stunning!!!
[01:56] <lastnode> florg: heh :)
[01:56] <brenner> {cYanide}: right-click > preoperties > open with
[01:56] <ugo> florg: and so is jessica alba
[01:56] <nalioth> jsubl2: parted (the thing doin the resizing) will work fine on your hfs+ partition
[01:56] <brenner> rob^: no it can't resize?
[01:56] <eSPete> ORiON2012, do i have to setup mplayer.conf or change the default soundriver for my system?
[01:56] <florg> approximately :-)
[01:56] <dean> hay
[01:57] <ORiON2012> eSPete: yup
[01:57] <jsubl2> nalioth, ok  booting the cd now.  2 systems 1 monitor
[01:57] <eSPete> ORiON2012, both?
[01:57] <nalioth> jsubl2: cool
[01:57] <ORiON2012> eSPete: try mplayer -ao help
[01:57] <lyndon> mmmm
[01:57] <{cYanide}> thing is, i want to remove the option from the right click menu
[01:57] <lyndon> its hard to understand
[01:57] <lyndon> :(
[01:57] <brenner> {cYanide}: is there a cedega option there?
[01:58] <gerarcone> how can i do to uninstall realplayer
[01:58] <gerarcone> ?
[01:58] <{cYanide}> ya
[01:58] <ORiON2012> eSPete: oh, sorry, no just in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[01:58] <brenner> {cYanide}: remove it. :)
[01:58] <brenner> {cYanide}: that's where the menu looks for applicable apps
[01:58] <ORiON2012> eSPete: if you have a ~/.mplayer.conf that will override the system settings
[01:58] <lastnode> you have 111 software updates
[01:58] <lastnode> should I update?
[01:59] <p0windah> yes
[01:59] <r3nz0rk> guys is there's a easy way to install wine on ubuntu
[01:59] <r3nz0rk> guys is there's a easy way to install wine on ubuntu
[01:59] <rob^> ubotu no resize is the Ubuntu installer cannot resize NTFS partitions, for more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[01:59] <ubotu> rob^: okay
[01:59] <lastnode> r3nz0rk: asking once is generally a good practice
[01:59] <r3nz0rk> ok
[01:59] <eSPete> ORiON2012, i do but changeing ao=esd does not help, on term it still says something about alsa and the video does not start before i deactivate sound in gnome
[01:59] <gerarcone> nobody can help me?
[01:59] <r3nz0rk> so please answer my question?
[01:59] <rob^> brenner, no it cant
[02:00] <nalioths_dog> r3nz0rk: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[02:00] <p0windah> r3nz0rk: wine is not easy to install on most distributions
[02:00] <brenner> rob^: yes it can
[02:00] <p0windah> r3nz0rk: you can try the paid support from transgaming and others though
[02:00] <ORiON2012> eSPete: can you msg me the exact error?
[02:00] <r3nz0rk> so what can i do to do so...
[02:00] <rob^> brenner, no, actually it cant
[02:00] <dean> am i NEED help, when i want to install or remove any package i get error that some of packes are corrupted and that i have to them first, ok i go and click repair packeages and then i get error pkgProblemResolver: that some packeges are not able to repair, that some files are need by some else and that can't be fixed. PLEASE HELP
[02:00] <rob^> brenner, trust me I've tried
[02:01] <r3nz0rk> is there's a free of charge?
[02:01] <brenner> rob^: that's news to me....i've installed ubuntu on 3 windows machines, all using the resize feature in the partitioning stage
[02:01] <nalioth> dean: read what ubotu sent you, and paste your errors
[02:01] <dean> ok
[02:01] <lastnode> how cen i get a gui app to load on startup and then minimize to teh tray?
[02:01] <p0windah> r3nz0rk: this is one of the free of charge places, where you rely on people "wanting" to help you
[02:01] <eSPete> ORiON2012, i dont ge an error, the last output from term is AF_pre: af format: 2 bps, 1 ch, 44100 hz, little endian signed int
[02:01] <eSPete> AF_pre: 44100Hz 1ch Signed 16-bit (Little-Endian)
[02:01] <eSPete> alsa-init: got device=0, subdevice=0
[02:01] <eSPete> alsa-init: 1 soundcard found, using: default
[02:01] <eSPete>  and the noting happen until i deativate sound under system/sound
[02:01] <r3nz0rk> is ubuntu also support all kinds of printer
[02:01] <rob^> well ditto, I have tried it with horay and you cannot
[02:02] <p0windah> r3nz0rk: if you annoy the hell out of the channel, no-one will "want" to help you
[02:02] <dean> hm how to i change language in ubuntu
[02:02] <rob^> it tries to, but nothing happens
[02:02] <nalioth> eSPete: dont paste in here
[02:02] <nalioth> eSPete: use a pastebin (read the /topic)
[02:02] <brenner> rob^: how did you do it?
[02:02] <nalioth> lastnode: system > prefs > session
[02:03] <dean> how to change language?
[02:03] <brownie17> is anybody here familiar with webmin?
[02:03] <WildZeck> hi all
[02:03] <sertmann> im sort of state of panic, because im apparently ment to return my labtop to my work today, and i really need to transfer files my files to my PC, samba is up and running apparently, but it asks for a password, where neither my primary accounts, or guest accounts seems to work, where do i set those passwords?
[02:03] <lastnode> thanks nalioth
[02:04] <lastnode> what was that free space viewer called again?
[02:04] <lastnode> bah i gotta write these things down :)
[02:04] <eSPete> lastnode, df -h
[02:04] <nalioth> lastnode: install discus or xdiskusage
[02:04] <WildZeck> sertmann,  use the share mode in a path with a 777 right if you are hurry
[02:04] <brownie17> i need help desperately, i need to use webmin to disable eneterprise volume management system just so my damn computer will start up, because it keeps hanging on that, and i want to know, can webmin be run from the live cd? and how do i set a root password in live cd?
[02:05] <nalioth> brownie17: i have another half answer: there is no root pass on the livecd
[02:05] <brownie17> nalioth: hm... ok
[02:05] <rob^> brenner, well apparently it can.. but it must not 100% of the time
[02:05] <ugo> brownie17: id hazard to guess yess you can run webmin from the live cd....but since it executes solely in memory ud have to install it every time
[02:05] <eSPete> ORiON2012, should i post it in the pastebin too?
[02:05] <brownie17> !webmin
[02:05] <ubotu> To use webmin with ubuntu you have to add a webmin-root account with : /usr/share/webmin/changepass.pl /etc/webmin root "password", or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebminWithoutARootAccount
[02:05] <ORiON2012> eSPete: that would imply that it's still using alsa
[02:05] <nalioth> eSPete: yes
[02:05] <brenner> rob^: b/c i have 3 dualboot computers here, all have had their original NTFS partition resized, and i haven't used partition magic, qtparted or anything else other than the installer's partitioner
[02:05] <ORiON2012> eSPete: alsa-init is the first clue
[02:06] <lastnode> i missed that again
[02:06] <lastnode> bah, irssi cant scroll
[02:06] <ORiON2012> eSPete: try mplayer -ao esd somemovie.mpg
[02:06] <brenner> rob^: did you select the size value?
[02:06] <rob^> brenner, I dunno, its been a while
[02:06] <sertmann> WildZeck, still asks for a username and password when i open the computer in Windows, any ideas
[02:06] <Sly> is it just me, or when using esd in xine/mplayer after 5/10mins the audio becomes outa syn
[02:06] <Sly> but when not using esd it plays fine all way through ?
[02:07] <ompaul> lastnode, press scroll lock button and shift page up
[02:07] <WildZeck> sertmann, are you sure youre using share mode in samba?
[02:07] <p0windah> Sly: that could be a buffering problem
[02:07] <WildZeck> sertmann, can i paste you my samaba file in private ?
[02:07] <rob^> brenner, word is that it does, but it doesn't always work.
[02:07] <p0windah> sertmann: if you are in a rush, it might be quicker using ftp
[02:07] <lesy> hello
[02:07] <Sly> never thought of that =x
[02:07] <brenner> rob^: yeah, just saw this: "If, when you are trying to shrink your partition, you are not given the option to enter a smaller size, it is because the installer does not feel it is able to resize the partition. Possibly because it thinks it is full, is currupt, or has some other problems that it cannot solve."
[02:08] <lyndon> nalioth i already install it what next ?
[02:08] <brenner> rob^: maybe i've been lucky
[02:08] <lastnode> thanks ompaul
[02:08] <nalioth> rob^: i've seen ntfs not resize due to corrupt sectors, but scandisk corrected the problem
[02:08] <ompaul> lastnode, np
[02:08] <cute_rolly2005> hi
[02:08] <brownie17> anybody, should webmin be in synaptic?
[02:08] <rob^> brenner, no it still gave me the option, but it didn't actually work when I went with it
[02:08] <nalioth> lyndon: do you know the IP of your computer?
[02:08] <cute_rolly2005> asl pls
[02:09] <nalioth> brownie17: ubotu told you
[02:09] <lyndon> yup
[02:09] <lastnode> im pondering installing kde
[02:09] <brenner> rob^: you got to the point where you enter a new size?
[02:09] <lastnode> how big is it?
[02:09] <lastnode> i mean the base
[02:09] <lastnode> i like the liteness of gnome though
[02:09] <nalioth> lyndon: what OS is on the other puter?
[02:09] <lyndon> OS ?
[02:09] <rob^> brenner, like I said, I'm not sure but its not 100% affective
[02:10] <nalioth> lyndon: you are wanting to get up from your current box and log into it from another one, right?
[02:10] <lyndon> yes
[02:10] <koin> does anybody use realplayer?
[02:10] <nalioth> lyndon: so what OS is on the other box?
[02:10] <brenner> rob^: well, i'm changing the trigger back....if only for the sake that it *is* possible....i can add a disclaimer about it not always being possible though
[02:10] <lyndon> i want to access to another computer but i cant find where is the computer
[02:10] <WildZeck> sertmann, he is my smb.conf
[02:10] <nalioth> damned bots
[02:11] <lastnode> is there a package that has AMP in it?
[02:11] <dskloet> icewm works great, thanks everybody
[02:11] <lastnode> or do i have to install everything seperately?
[02:11] <sertmann> WildZeck, cheers
[02:11] <rob^> ubotu no resize is the Ubuntu installer can resize NTFS partitions, for more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[02:11] <ubotu> rob^: okay
[02:11] <lyndon> i want to see the desktop of station15
[02:11] <sertmann> WildZeck, ill give it a look
[02:11] <lyndon> the file
[02:12] <robzon> damn it's so cool that amarok 1.3.1 got it to breezy :) big thx to developers
[02:12] <eSPete> ORiON2012, mplayer -ao esd somemovie.mpg work:D how do i make it default?
[02:12] <nalioth> lyndon: the other computer needs to have an account with your name on it, and be running openssh-server also, if you want to acces it from where you are sitting
[02:12] <brownie17> i am absalutly desperate, why does enterprise volume management keep jamming on startup. i cannot figure out why. i even reinstalled linux, and now it is doing it again. i just installed the libdvdccs and ALSA sound, then it said i had to restart, so i did and now enterpirse volume management won't work. last time i tried disabling it, it just gave me a "HAL error" everytime gnome loaded, and that was just as bad. i do not know w
[02:12] <brownie17> hat to do and am very disenlightened with ubuntu
[02:12] <ORiON2012> eSPete: modify /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf  or ~/.mplayer/config
[02:12] <ccfiel> hello ppl..
[02:13] <lyndon> ow
[02:13] <lyndon> kk
[02:13] <lyndon> i try
[02:13] <ORiON2012> eSPete: the one in your ~/ has a higher priority
[02:13] <nalioth> brownie17: easy.
[02:13] <eSPete> ORiON2012, cool now it work, yhx
[02:13] <nalioth> brownie17: i have no idea what LVM is, or i'd help you
[02:13] <lyndon> and then if i click ing network, i can see the station15 ?
[02:13] <ccfiel> can somebody help me install my webcam? i have no idea how to install it. i have tried lsusb and i found my webcam " Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. Sansun SN-510 WebCam [hv713d] " what's next?
[02:13] <lastnode> ok im upgrading discuss is lovely
[02:14] <nalioth> brownie17: if you ask politely in here later, someone will know
[02:14] <brenner> rob^: cheers
[02:14] <brownie17> nalioth, sorry, was that not polite?
[02:14] <nalioth> lyndon: the methods i'm describing are usually done using the console
[02:15] <lyndon> oh
[02:15] <nalioth> brownie17: your last text was kinda sounding threatening
[02:15] <brownie17> nalioth, sorry i twasn't mean to be
[02:15] <p0windah> whats your problem brownie17 ?
[02:15] <rob^> brenner, np happy to be corrected, also that wiki page is better then the original one
[02:15] <brownie17> nalioth, do you know how to compile webmin? i downloaded the tar.gz form website
[02:15] <p0windah> let me re-phrase that, what problems are you having with ubuntu ?
[02:16] <nalioth> brownie17: yes i can help you
[02:16] <brownie17> p0windah, enterprise volume managemtn jams on startup and i do not know how to restart it
[02:16] <brownie17> p0windah, disabling it gives me a "HAL" error, i have tried resinatlled ubuntu, the error just came back after a whiel
[02:16] <p0windah> brownie17: ok first thing you need to do is go check dmesg and syslog/messages
[02:16] <brownie17> nalioth, please do
[02:16] <nalioth> brownie17: whats the matter with the one from the repos?
[02:16] <[Wiebel] > anyone here using breezy and mozilla mplayer plugin?
[02:16] <lyndon> its hard to understand oh
[02:16] <brownie17> nalioth, i am using livecd, it did not appear
[02:16] <LinuxJones> brownie17, you talking about LVM ?
[02:17] <lyndon> nalioth thanks a lot
[02:17] <nalioth> brownie17: i suspect you need to take another action then building webmin on a livecd
[02:17] <lyndon> may be i ask question when i have a time
[02:17] <brownie17> LinuxJones, i dont think so, i think it is a different thing in startup called "enterprise volume management" it starts up just after LVM... i think
[02:17] <lyndon> for now its hard to understand ^^
[02:17] <Kuolio> ccfiel, try using google to find something more about using your webcam on linux.. I just searched "webcam linux" and found this: http://www.linux.com/howtos/Webcam-HOWTO/index.shtml   hope it helps :)
[02:17] <lyndon> thanks nalioth
[02:18] <brownie17> nalioth: well when i tried disabling evm with update-rc.d it gave me a "HAL" error everytime i logged on, weas that co-incidence
[02:18] <ccfiel> Kuilio: ok thanks! :D
[02:18] <nalioth> brownie17: it's my bedtime.
[02:19] <nalioth> bots are really swarming now
[02:19] <ORiON2012> ccfiel: seems to be supported by the spca5xx kernel mod
[02:19] <brownie17> nalioth_zZz, ok
[02:19] <brownie17> LinuxJones, can you help me with rc.d to disable EVM?
[02:19] <lastnode> is firestarter a good firewall?
[02:20] <rob^> lastnode, for home use yes
[02:20] <lastnode> rob^: any other apps you'd reccommend?
[02:20] <brownie17> seveas, can you help me disable EVM? it is crashing on startup. i cannot boot. last time i disabled it i kept getting a "HAL" error on logon
[02:20] <rob^> apart from firestarter, no
[02:20] <lastnode> rob^: thanks mate
[02:21] <lastnode> rob^: if i want to run php mysql etc, i have to get apache, php4 and mysql seperately?
[02:21] <dskloet> After ctrl-alt-bs, how do I get back to X+gdm? startx just starts an xsession without gdm...
[02:22] <LinuxJones> brownie17, yes but ar you running Hoary ?
[02:22] <ORiON2012> dskloet: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:22] <brownie17> LinuxJones, yes i am
[02:22] <brownie17> LinuxJones, pm?
[02:22] <zone17> Hi, has the ubuntu security team integrated the fix for firefox?
[02:22] <LinuxJones> brownie17, nope here is fine, do you have any windows partitions like fat32 on your system ?
[02:22] <dskloet> ORiON2012, thanks, that won't tell me gdm is already running? (as plain sudo gdm does)
[02:22] <brownie17> LinuxJones, i have an NTFS
[02:23] <ORiON2012> dskloet: you can always ps -A | grep
[02:23] <Tomcat_> zone17: What fix?
[02:23] <ORiON2012> dskloet: or /etc/init.d/gdm status
[02:23] <Tomcat_> zone17: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-181-1 <--- This is the last one
[02:24] <zone17> Tomcat_, the latest security issue
[02:24] <Tomcat_> zone17: If it's CAN-2005-2871, then yes.
[02:24] <dskloet> ORiON2012, thanks I'll try that.
[02:24] <LinuxJones> brownie17, first have a quick look at this, it mentions it doesn't provide support for windows filesystems but I doubt that would cause the service from failing. >> http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=10288    , If you want to stop the service you do >> sudo update-rc.d -f <service script name> remove
[02:24] <brownie17> LinuxJones, will that affect it? if there is no other way i can definatly format that
[02:25] <lastnode> how do you uninstall a package?
[02:25] <p0windah> apt-get remove package_name
[02:25] <dabar> lastnode: do you use synaptic?
[02:25] <ORiON2012> lastnode: you really need a starter guide of some sort, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewToUbuntu
[02:26] <LinuxJones> brownie17, so it would be sudo update-rc.d -f evms remove
[02:26] <brownie17> LinuxJones, thankyou.
[02:26] <Snoblower> anybody want to tell me exactly how to download ubunutu? i don't really know what i'm doing :(
[02:27] <ORiON2012> Snoblower: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ is a good bet
[02:27] <nalioth_zZz> brownie17: see? patience is a virtue
[02:29] <Will^Draven> blah
[02:29] <brownie17> nalioth_zZz, we are yet to see if it works, my friends
[02:29] <Will^Draven> is there an easy way to downgrade my kernel?
[02:29] <brownie17> nalioth_zZz, restart coming
[02:30] <dabar> Snoblower: go to http://www.ubuntu.com and click on download on the right. Frm there, scroll down, till you get the list of download sites for the 5.04 AHoary release. Select the best country for yourself. Then, look at the list of files, and find the one that matches your computer, i386 is pentiums, and other 32 bit processors, like some amds, ppc is apples, and amd64 is 64 bit amds...Finally, choose the .torrent, for faster download s
[02:30] <Cryptid> Please Help!!!!How to get the Panel that Looks OS-X launcher
[02:30] <mirak> in wich domain can ubuntu 64 bits bring some more performances ?
[02:30] <mirak> does gcc handle SSE3 instructions ?
[02:31] <cusco> Cryptid: look here! http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xsortmode=down&page=0&PHPSESSID=705cc774dda483ef9d7acc00e97a5d07
[02:31] <andelgado> hello
[02:31] <cusco> hello
[02:32] <Cryptid> cusco, ya i've seen it on that page itself but how do i get the Panel (is it part of the theme or i got to download it seperatly)
[02:32] <andelgado> needs help, need to have package libssl0.9.6, to install YM
[02:33] <andelgado> where can I download libssl0.9.6.deb?
[02:33] <ompaul> mirak, look and that and ctrl+f for sse3 lots of info for you  http://floppsie.comp.glam.ac.uk/Glamorgan/gaius/web/gcc.html
[02:33] <cusco> Cryptid: I would say that the easy way would be installing the whole theme, and then ont the Theme options from gnome choose onthe the pannel
[02:34] <AGRAV8D> Hey , after installing ubuntu updates my other OS's disappeared. I had suse on 1 drive , XP on another. How do i get access to them back
[02:34] <ORiON2012> andelgado: in universe repos
[02:34] <mirak> ompaul: ok
[02:34] <dean> can you help me that i will add one program to startup in terminal if this is possible
[02:34] <andelgado> ubuntu CD only has 0.9.7
[02:34] <ompaul> dean what program do you want to start?
[02:34] <cusco> andelgado: apt-cache search libssl0.9.6
[02:34] <mirak> I am trying to get rid of lilo messages errors. I used lilo before using grub, and got questons concerning lilo when upgrading the kernel
[02:35] <cusco> its on the universe repositories
[02:35] <andelgado> where is universe repository?
[02:35] <lastnode_> i cant seem to find mysql in synaptic
[02:35] <cusco> andelgado: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:35] <andelgado> pls tell steps
[02:35] <cusco> uncomment those lines from the universe
[02:35] <andelgado> i'll try. ty
[02:35] <cusco> save the file; apt-get update; apt-get install libssl0.9.6
[02:36] <test34> in synaptic there is not an option to see only installed packages ?
[02:36] <Diffindo> I tried the sound configuration instructions on ubuntu guide and the forums, and I still have no noise...
[02:36] <ORiON2012> test34: yes, yes there is
[02:36] <test34> ORiON2012, where ?
[02:36] <Diffindo> help?
[02:37] <ORiON2012> test34: click status in lower right
[02:37] <dean> am i want to start one program which put on my web server sql ftp php and all together
[02:37] <ORiON2012> test34: then click installed in upper right
[02:37] <dean> please don't say install apache from ubuntu - it didn't work at me good
[02:37] <ORiON2012> test34: left, sorry
[02:37] <dabar> cusco: did you ever use aptitude? its great, for example,. I install apache with aptitude, it has 4 other packages as dependencies. Then in five minutes, I decide, I dont like apache, and want to remove it. I remove it with aptitude, and aptitude removes the 4 packages as well.
[02:37] <test34> ORiON2012, ok thanks
[02:38] <AGRAV8D> can someone tell me how to regain access to my other operating systems, ubuntu "updates" erased their entries.
[02:38] <[Wiebel] > Can i find old breezy packages somewhere?
[02:38] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all... good morning
[02:38] <[Wiebel] > i need the mplayerplug-in package from a week ago
[02:38] <Diffindo> I tried the sound configuration instructions on ubuntu guide and the forums, and I still have no noise...can anyone help?
[02:38] <dean> so there is possible to add program to startup or not
[02:39] <p0windah> dean: rcconf
[02:39] <p0windah> dean: but its not recommended
[02:39] <[Wiebel] > anyone?
[02:39] <dean> am where can i found it
[02:39] <p0windah> apt-cache search rcconf
[02:39] <Aragorn_Guardian> I need help with pam. i am trying make a ubuntu station log into domain (PDC), but I am not sure about process...
[02:39] <dean> why not
[02:39] <mandy> hello
[02:39] <mandy> jskhjhnhdjgdkmmtdeim,jiyinxl nm,n jkgo
[02:39] <ColonelKernel> how do I install w32codecs for mplayer?
[02:39] <mandy> gklgjdkhumggytihgn
[02:39] <mandy> gsg;l;gk
[02:39] <p0windah> dean: if its an application, stick it in gnome.
[02:40] <mandy> hgjgsdtu
[02:40] <mandy> fhjkd
[02:40] <mandy> dnhdhr
[02:40] <mandy> r
[02:40] <mandy> xdfg h ws4yzykzx, mlkkounmthjbjkfoz
[02:40] <mandy> fh
[02:40] <p0windah> dean: if its some server/daemon, there should already be init scripts
[02:40] <andelgado> cusco, what should i do first, type...  apt -cache search libssl0.9.6 in the command prompt?
[02:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> !pam
[02:40] <ubotu> Aragorn_Guardian: Syntax error in line 1
[02:40] <andelgado>  cusco, what should i do first, type...  apt -cache search libssl0.9.6 in the command prompt?
[02:40] <Aragorn_Guardian> !active directory
[02:40] <ubotu> Aragorn_Guardian: I haven't a clue
[02:41] <cusco> andelgado: sudo apt-get update
[02:41] <andelgado> ty, will try now
[02:41] <cusco> then sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.6
[02:41] <fdr> Hello... I'm trying to mount a fat32 fs, but I can't get the filenames with accented letters to display properly... what is the correct mount option? I tried both utf8 and uni_xlate but it doesn't seem to work... Thank you!
[02:41] <maginoo> i want my printer to share in all of the computer here can some one help me ?
[02:41] <ColonelKernel> anyone? Please? w32codecs?
[02:41] <Aragorn_Guardian> Diffindo:  i have this problem too, but the tutorial is ok...in my case i remove all others sound systems, and start tutorial again
[02:41] <andelgado> gives me error mess:   sudo: apt: command not found
[02:41] <ColonelKernel> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:41] <ColonelKernel> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:41] <ColonelKernel> is only available from another source
[02:41] <AGRAV8D> WOW ,  452 people in this channel and not one can answer my question.
[02:42] <dabar> maginoo: are they all ubuntu?
[02:42] <andelgado> i wrote it in the command prompt
[02:42] <maginoo> yes
[02:42] <maginoo> its all ubuntu
[02:42] <apsync> My sound is not working, anyone know what I can do?
[02:42] <maginoo> when same username
[02:42] <maginoo> with same username
[02:42] <Diffindo> Aragorn_Gaurdian: Humor me, how would I do that?
[02:42] <dabar> maginoo: tried the printing through System>Admin? there should be an option for a network printer,.
[02:43] <andelgado> anyone has encountered problem installing yahoo messenger?
[02:43] <andelgado> wanna share how to fix prob
[02:43] <dean> yeah it should have but it doesn't have or i don't know where to find it
[02:43] <Aragorn_Guardian> Diffindo:  in synaptic, you can deselect everything that is not alsa...update alsa, and follow tutorial...anyone correct me...
[02:43] <p0windah> better question, has anyone ever installed such named package ?
[02:43] <Aragorn_Guardian> Diffindo:  but it works...i have problems like you...but worked..
[02:44] <dabar> ColonelKernel: the w32 codecs package is just a collection of files, it does not install anything. THis is why it is ok to get it from debian. You can download it if you google for "w32codecs marillat" find the file, download it, and install it with sudo dpkg -i w32codecsblah.deb
[02:44] <andelgado> is there a site in the net where to download missing packages? i need libssl0.9.6 package. yahoo messenger needs it.
[02:44] <p0windah> andelgado: I use psi without any problems and I believe it supports yahoo
[02:44] <andelgado> psi, is it part of ubuntu?
[02:44] <Aragorn_Guardian> dabar:  one question about print sharing is that in samba, like in a windows share, one useful thing will be that will be possible install a shared printer remotely. is possible do that?
[02:44] <p0windah> andelgado: yeah
[02:45] <klepas> andelgado: type !info application
[02:45] <dean> yes it did it is named XAMPP and lot of people use it, because it is easy and works
[02:45] <ColonelKernel> dabar, thank you
[02:45] <andelgado> how do i launch it, the psi (what's it)
[02:45] <FallenOne> can anyone help me/
[02:45] <Aragorn_Guardian> !info pam
[02:45] <p0windah> type "psi"
[02:45] <FallenOne> i need a guilde
[02:45] <test34> Aragorn_Guardian, use ssh to do it remotely ?
[02:45] <FallenOne> guide
[02:45] <FallenOne> how i can make my ubuntu dual booth
[02:45] <FallenOne> with windows
[02:45] <andelgado> where shall i type psi? in the command prompt?
[02:46] <Diffindo> !audio
[02:46] <ubotu> Diffindo: I haven't a clue
[02:46] <Diffindo> !sound
[02:46] <ubotu> well, sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[02:46] <Aragorn_Guardian> test34:  no...i said...you dont have the drivers for a xyz printer, you click on the sj] hare, and the drivers will be there, in the share. windows do that.
[02:46] <p0windah> andelgado: well you need to install it first, so in a terminal type "sudo apt-get install psi qca-tls"
[02:46] <p0windah> andelgado: that should install psi and the ssl stuff it makes use of
[02:46] <Aragorn_Guardian> FallenOne:  is a grub question, i think you must see in grub docs
[02:47] <andelgado> it showed couldnt find package psi
[02:47] <andelgado> anymore help pls
[02:47] <No1Viking> I got problems with swedish characters. Any idea what to do when my swedish special characters show up as a ??
[02:47] <p0windah> andelgado: add universe into your repositories
[02:48] <andelgado> pls tell how i do that... universe into repositories
[02:48] <Aragorn_Guardian> !info active directory
[02:48] <p0windah> andelgado: actually I tell a lie, you will need to have a jabber account to use the yahoo stuff
[02:48] <Aragorn_Guardian> !info krb5
[02:48] <nir_> hi
[02:48] <p0windah> andelgado: so if you want to use a jabber account and attacjh your yahoo to it, grab psi. otherwise give it a miss
[02:48] <Aragorn_Guardian> !info mped
[02:48] <ubotu> mped: (a small editor with syntax highlighting), section universe/editors, is optional. Version: 3.1.11-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 82 kB, Installed size: 308 kB
[02:48] <No1Viking> I got problems with swedish characters. Any idea what to do when my swedish special characters show up as a "?" ?
[02:49] <andelgado> i think my prob is that universe thing. i don't know here it is located
[02:49] <FallenOne> aragon guardian
[02:49] <p0windah> No1Viking: are you sure you have the right unicode fonts installed ?
[02:49] <FallenOne> where is gurg
[02:49] <FallenOne> or something
[02:49] <nir_> how i can disable GDM and run automaticlly fluxbox ?
[02:49] <p0windah> andelgado: its in /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:49] <No1Viking> p0windah: Nope, am not sure
[02:49] <andelgado> is universe a directory included in the CD installer?
[02:49] <p0windah> andelgado: no, internet
[02:49] <test34> FallenOne, man grub
[02:49] <nir_> ?
[02:49] <FallenOne> test
[02:50] <FallenOne> obuntu
[02:50] <FallenOne> just arrived
[02:50] <nox_ghost> when i place a new startup script in "sessions" - in which file it saves it?
[02:50] <FallenOne> at my house
[02:50] <FallenOne> i dont know anything
[02:50] <FallenOne> so whats grub/
[02:50] <reiki> FAllenOne... try to use one line to post :)
[02:50] <test34> FallenOne, was windows installed when you installed ubuntu ?
[02:50] <FallenOne> i didnt yet install it
[02:50] <FallenOne> i want to know how to make it dual booth
[02:51] <andelgado> so how do i add the universe, should i launch the synaptic package manager?
[02:51] <test34> FallenOne, why do you need windows anyways
[02:51] <andelgado> p0windah, more help pls,
[02:51] <FallenOne> good question ,
[02:51] <FallenOne> for games
[02:52] <FallenOne> im gunna use windows ONLY for games and linux for the res
[02:52] <andelgado> how do i add universe to repositories? help pls
[02:53] <reiki> for some reason I've never"trusted"... "liked"... dual booting. I prefer swappable drives. :)
[02:53] <Aragorn_Guardian> FallenOne:  grub is the boot manager. is better than older lilo. see the man, docs
[02:53] <FallenOne> Thanks
[02:53] <FallenOne> and one last question
[02:53] <Aragorn_Guardian> test34:  no... I am not in that fase...ehehehe... i started in a clean HD for a while....8)
[02:53] <test34> andelgado, in synaptic go in Settings - Repositories - Add
[02:54] <Aragorn_Guardian> test34:  grub is a surprise for me....hehehehehehehehe
[02:54] <dean> am anyone know gow to use gconf
[02:55] <test34> andelgado, and then select Community Maintained (Universe)
[02:55] <koin> please, someone can tell me how to delete an icon from the gnome-menu?
[02:55] <andelgado> ya thanks, already done.. still waiting to finish download
[02:55] <deFrysk> !tell koin about smeg
[02:56] <test34> koin, Applications - System Tools - Application Menu Editor
[02:56] <klepas> !info repositories
[02:56] <klepas> or something like that *ggg*
[02:56] <FallenOne> as what must i make a new partition????
[02:56] <FallenOne> primary or logical?
[02:56] <deFrysk> !tell koin about backport
[02:56] <klepas> anyone know how I would go about adding extra repositories under breezy?
[02:57] <p0windah> check /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:57] <test34> klepas, in synaptic go in Settings - Repositories - Add and then select Community Maintained (Universe)
[02:57] <deFrysk> !repositories
[02:57] <ubotu> repositories is, like, probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:57] <FallenOne> test, primary or logical for new partition?
[02:57] <klepas> thanks heaps :-)
[02:58] <dean> how to write in gconf-editor that will start one program at startup
[02:58] <test34> FallenOne, I don't think it matters.. but primary if you can
[02:59] <p0windah> dean: http://ubuntuguide.org/#runprogramsstartupgnome
[02:59] <Diffindo> How do I run a .GZ file...
[02:59] <Diffindo> ?
[02:59] <cusco> dean: that I really don0t know, I know before you log off you can memorise your screen tho
[02:59] <fdr> Sorry, I'm asking this a second time... I'm trying to mount a fat32 fs, but I can't get the filenames with accented letters to display properly... Anybody please knows the correct mount option? I tried both utf8 and uni_xlate but it doesn't seem to work... Thank you!
[03:00] <p0windah> Diffindo: double click on it in nautilus,; remember also that a .GZ file is the equiv. of a .ZIP file
[03:00] <koin> test34: i don't have this Application Menu Editor
[03:00] <koin> deFrysk: smeg is the only choice?
[03:00] <dean> p0windah this doesn't work
[03:00] <dean> i make that
[03:00] <Diffindo> The file in the GZ is an unknown type that I can't figure out
[03:00] <p0windah> in what way doesnt it work dean
[03:01] <dean> but didn't work or i write not right orders
[03:01] <dean> it write that has to run program
[03:01] <dean> but it didn't run
[03:01] <p0windah> double check how owns the script you are trying to run and its +x
[03:01] <test34> koin, I use breezy, maybe that
[03:01] <test34> koin, I use breezy, maybe that's why
[03:01] <koin> test34: yes, i use hoary
[03:02] <koin> test34: so, how can i do? it's impossible that i'm losing hours to delet a simple icon!
[03:02] <koin> deFrysk: what are these backports?
[03:02] <p0windah> koin: what are you tryng to do exactly ?
[03:03] <emanuelez> hello
[03:03] <hyphenated> fdr: are you sure the problem is with the mounting, and not with whatever tool you're using to view the files with?
[03:03] <emanuelez> how do i install a newer version of kismet... the one in the official repositories seems one year old!
[03:03] <koin> p0windah: i've uninstalled real player and i have still the icon in the audio & video menu
[03:04] <koin> p0windah: i want to delete this icon only
[03:04] <maginoo> i want my printer will share in all network
[03:04] <p0windah> koin: and you want those entries removed ? http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#menu-editor
[03:04] <test34> koin, yeah there should be an option in the right-click menu to delete them.. but sorry I don't know
[03:04] <p0windah> koin: in hoary the menu editor wasnt included by default, in breezy it is
[03:05] <koin> p0windah: i tried with sudo apt-get smeg but it doesn't work
[03:05] <test34> its kinda strange that when you right click something in the menu it only give you the option to add it somewhere else, but not to delete it
[03:05] <p0windah> what do you mean, "doesnt work"
[03:06] <fdr> hyphenated : i'm using both nautilus and the terminal, and none of those works
[03:06] <deFrysk> sudo apt-get install <package>
[03:06] <fdr> hyphenated: please note that the accented chars that arise problems are in the file *name*, not in the contents
[03:07] <emanuelez> where can i find unofficial repositories?
[03:08] <p0windah> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[03:08] <deFrysk> emanuelez, be wise, dont use them
[03:08] <emanuelez> p0windah: none of those have a recent version of kismet
[03:08] <VincentMX> hi
[03:08] <hyphenated> fdr: indeed. and that same tool shows other filenames with accented characters fine, right? ones that aren't on that vfat filesystem
[03:08] <apsync> hi, just installing gstreamer0.8-mad and now is mp3's working, what package do I need to be able to play avi's ?
[03:08] <emanuelez> defri
[03:08] <andelgado> test34, cusco, p0windah, and the rest who helped me, THANKS HUMANS! My Yahoo messenger works now!
[03:09] <emanuelez> deFrysk: i only need a newer version of kismet.. that's it
[03:09] <p0windah> good stuff :)
[03:09] <andelgado> gonna test if my webcam and audio will work
[03:09] <deFrysk> emanuelez, ok
[03:09] <cusco> andelgado: you could use yahoo messenger trhu gaim
[03:10] <andelgado> oh, and what is gaim? been hearing that but got no idea
[03:10] <deFrysk> !tell andelgado about gaim
[03:10] <fdr> hyphenated : yes, both tools work just fine with accented filenames on my ext3 home
[03:11] <cusco> andelgado: menu Applications - Internet - Gaim
[03:11] <andelgado> yes, pls explain gaim, others wanna know too
[03:11] <Logtime> When using the FTPS or HTTPS protocol, gFTP cannot connect if the remote server uses a self signed certificate.
[03:11] <Logtime> You must add the public key of your self signed CA to your OpenSSL certs directory. On my Debian box, the OpenSSL certs are installed in /usr/lib/ssl/certs.
[03:11] <Logtime> anyone idea?
[03:11] <cusco> andelgado: gaim is a IM messenger client which supports several protocols
[03:11] <cusco> like yahoo messenger, msn messenger, jabber, icq, irc
[03:12] <kemik> Logtime:  no, but if you get one, pls tell me :)
[03:12] <deFrysk> and also google messenger not to forget
[03:12] <Logtime> o_O
[03:12] <ccfiel> how do i know what version of kernel i used?
[03:12] <p0windah> ccfiel: uname -a
[03:12] <kemik> uname -r
[03:12] <deFrysk> uname -r yes
[03:12] <p0windah> I prefer verbosity :)
[03:12] <nox_ghost> when i place a new startup script in "sessions" - in which file it saves it?
[03:12] <kemik> obviously ;)
[03:12] <andelgado> got it, will try
[03:13] <test34> andelgado, with gaim, you can use MSN, yahoo, aim, jabber, irc and more
[03:13] <p0windah> nox_ghost: /home/user/.baby_jesus_loves_you/session_stuff.omgzor
[03:13] <hyphenated> fdr: you could try playing with iocharset then, if it's not latin-1
[03:14] <ccfiel> i have a kernel Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 and when i synaptic i can only find a Linux kernel source for version 2.6.10 and Linux kernel source for version 2.6.11 and  i need to get one? what shall i get?
[03:14] <andelgado> will it be compatible with yahoo's voice call and webcam sharing?
[03:14] <ColonelKernel> andelgado, NO
[03:15] <ColonelKernel> andelgado, theres nothing to do yahoo cam on linux yet
[03:15] <ColonelKernel> im anxiously awaiting
[03:15] <andelgado> i c. that's why i can't find option to open webcam in yahoo
[03:15] <ccfiel> hello can somebody help me...
[03:16] <ccfiel> i have a kernel Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 and when i synaptic i can only find a Linux kernel source for version 2.6.10 and Linux kernel source for version 2.6.11 and  i need to get one? what shall i get?
[03:16] <ColonelKernel> that is correct, sir
[03:16] <fdr> hyphenated: hmm please, do you know what the correct value for iocharset would be?
[03:16] <Logtime> someone know a client ftp gui with SSL???
[03:16] <LinuxJones> nox_ghost, it should be in >> /home/username/.gnome2/session/usr/sbin
[03:16] <ColonelKernel> not even the yahoo linux client can allow linux to do yahoo webcam, and i am disgusted.
[03:16] <Logtime> plsss
[03:16] <test34> is there a .deb for firefox 1.5 ?
[03:16] <LinuxJones> nox_ghost, err  >> /home/username/.gnome2/session/
[03:16] <hyphenated> fdr: it depends what was being used while it was a windows drive. eg: iso8859-3 or somesuch
[03:16] <Logtime> someone know a client ftp gui with SSL???
[03:16] <andelgado> does it mean, i can't use my webcam for chatting in linux?
[03:17] <nox_ghost> Logtime, gftp ?
[03:17] <nox_ghost> thanx LinuxJones
[03:17] <Logtime> nox_ghost,
[03:17] <Logtime> You must add the public key of your self signed CA to your OpenSSL certs directory. On my Debian box, the OpenSSL certs are installed in /usr/lib/ssl/certs.
[03:17] <andelgado> no webcams in linux?
[03:17] <Logtime> i've that problem
[03:17] <andelgado> no voice chatting as well?
[03:17] <p0windah> andelgado: try skype
[03:18] <hyphenated> andelgado: skype works fine on linux
[03:18] <test34> andelgado, you can do voice chatting with skype
[03:18] <andelgado> how about webcams? skype is part of this ubuntu?
[03:18] <p0windah> andelgado: a quick way to find linux apps is on sourceforge.net
[03:18] <test34> andelgado, for webcams I dont know I dont own one
[03:18] <test34> andelgado, http://skype.com
[03:18] <andelgado> gonna check out sourceforge.net, will do that
[03:19] <fdr> hyphenated : so I should specify both utf8 and iocharset, right? Given that the partition was created and used with an Italian version of windows 98, where can I look for the right charset? thank you..........
[03:19] <andelgado> thanks guys. gonna ask new topic....
[03:20] <moparfan90> hello does anyone know how to make windows transparent ? (im using e17)
[03:20] <p0windah> you mean translucent ?
[03:20] <gabberman> heh
[03:20] <moparfan90> what ever
[03:20] <p0windah> transparent might be hard to work with
[03:20] <gabberman> anyone can help with soundcard problem?
[03:20] <nox_ghost> gabberman,
[03:21] <nox_ghost> !google site:ubuntuforums.org happy alsa esd
[03:21] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, nox_ghost
[03:21] <Logtime> someone know a client ftp gui with SSL???
[03:21] <gabberman> huh?
[03:21] <nox_ghost> search this in google
[03:21] <nox_ghost> site:ubuntuforums.org happy alsa esd
[03:21] <hyphenated> fdr: possibly. apparently iso8859-1 is correct for italian, and is the default. the plot thickens
[03:21] <gabberman> ma sound cards ISA
[03:21] <jonphilpott> hi, i recently moved from suse 9.3 to ubuntu 5.10, and now gnome/linux doesnt recognise blank DVDs when i insert them/try to burn them
[03:22] <gabberman> someone on here yesterday said all i need was some code
[03:22] <andelgado> any help, i need WINES, where to find?
[03:22] <gabberman> to enable the sound card
[03:22] <jonphilpott> any ideas what would cause this.. theres a lot of messages in dmesg
[03:22] <gabberman> indtall the drivers etc
[03:22] <fdr> hyphenated: glad to hear that the plot thickens.... :-P :-)
[03:26] <DjKritical> anyone know if there is a package for watching asf movies in firefox?
[03:26] <gabberman> nox_ghost   ... read site... doesnmt mean too much to mean, im noob
[03:27] <gabberman> apparently theres a command which installs all the isa sound card drivers...
[03:27] <CarlFK> asf - is that flash?
[03:27] <gabberman> i just cant rmember what it was..
[03:27] <DjKritical> asf = micros**t
[03:27] <p0windah> some streaming windows thing
[03:28] <apsync> hmm my sound/videoplayer is laggy
[03:28] <apsync> just downloaded my nvidia drivers
[03:28] <DjKritical> It's a windows media player plugin thing which displays streaming media on webpages
[03:29] <DjKritical> for instance, the videos on big-boys.com (best non-porn website ever)
[03:30] <gabberman> sound card help anyone?????
[03:32] <DjKritical> gabberman, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[03:33] <^DodGeR^> could someone point me at a java/firefox howto ? i have installed java , but java dont work in firefox
[03:33] <neels> ANYone know about wlan cards on ubuntu?
[03:33] <^DodGeR^> !java
[03:33] <ubotu> I guess java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[03:34] <p0windah> heh
[03:34] <reiki> how do I see what video drivers are installed? AND... if I have an older geforce2 card and everything seems to be working fine, is there any reason I should be trying to install nvidia drivers? Or leave it alone? (if it ain't broke, don't fix it)
[03:34] <^DodGeR^> !firefox
[03:34] <ubotu> ^DodGeR^: I give up, what is it?
[03:34] <neels> WLAN help please
[03:34] <p0windah> ^DodGeR^: check out www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:34] <p0windah> its reasonably comrehensive
[03:34] <ccfiel> DoGer: ubu
[03:34] <p0windah> comprehensive, too
[03:34] <ccfiel> DoGer: http://ubuntuguide.org/#jre
[03:34] <^DodGeR^> did that p0windah , said to install the j2re ..
[03:35] <^DodGeR^> ta
[03:35] <DjKritical> ^DodGeR^: I followed that site and java works fine for me
[03:35] <^DodGeR^> yeah java works fine , but java games in firefox dont
[03:35] <Frag52954> hey, whats ubuntu breezy colony 4 like then?
[03:35] <Hikaru79> Would you guys say that the current Breezy preview is good enough for regular use?
[03:36] <LasseL> ^DodGeR^, you need to create a link to install the plugin into firefox
[03:36] <p0windah> Hikaru79: no
[03:36] <_anti-net_> Hikaru79: i know some people who are using it, bit buggy
[03:36] <Hikaru79> Drat =( What sort of problems does it have?
[03:36] <_anti-net_> Oct 13th it comes out right?
[03:36] <p0windah> Hikaru79: based on the presumption that a regular user has little internet opening a terminal and messing around with config files
[03:37] <Frag52954> try it on your machine Hikaru79
[03:37] <p0windah> little interest
[03:37] <p0windah> whyt am I typing like such a retard tonite
[03:37] <p0windah> again... when will this madness stop
[03:37] <jonphilpott> ive been using it for about a week.. only problem ive had is not being able to burn dvds
[03:37] <Frag52954> if it works fine and you want to use it freeze the repos, because it probably is changing quite a lot atm
[03:37] <Hikaru79> p0windah, I have no problem messing with the system. As long as the problems aren't with the packages themselves, I can handle most fixable problems.
[03:37] <neels> WLAN !
[03:37] <VincentMX> hi beyond
[03:38] <p0windah> Hikaru79: go for it then
[03:38] <spine55> does anyone know how to change the refresh rate of the transparency for konsole?
[03:38] <VincentMX> hi littlepaul
[03:38] <neels> narge barge knarge
[03:38] <littlepaul> hi VincentMX ;-)
[03:38] <_anti-net_> I'm going to wait, tho ubuntu is going to replace XP as soon as i finsh school :P
[03:38] <p0windah> spine55: translucency
[03:38] <^DodGeR^> LasseL, pelase elaborate ?
[03:38] <spine55> p0windah: oh sorry :)
[03:39] <spine55> p0windah: so how do you change it?
[03:39] <p0windah> no idea :)
[03:39] <infared> Hi guys. Yesterday, i decided to try out linux for the first time. I downloaded the ubuntu live CD "ubuntu-5.10-preview-live-i386.rar" ..i burned it and then booted it. Then it told me that it was about to install something, so i clicked no and went back to windows. My question: isnt a Live-CD to test things out with no installations and stuff?
[03:39] <VincentMX> _anti-net_ hope you finish school very early
[03:39] <beyond> VincentMX, hi
[03:39] <spine55> it's choppy and the gnome terminal does it really smooth
[03:40] <harrytuttle> infared: would help to know what it wanted to install
[03:40] <Will^Draven> gahhh
[03:41] <Will^Draven> my kernel compile bombed out :(
[03:41] <infared> well, first some files names ran down the screen fast like it does when u boot up in windows safe mode, and then about the installation thing, i kinda forgot as this happend yesterday. want me to do it again and check out what happend?
[03:41] <Hikaru79> infared, if you burned the right ISO, it should *definitely* not be installing anything on your hard drive.
[03:41] <^DodGeR^> !proxy
[03:41] <ubotu> ^DodGeR^: Are you smoking crack?
[03:41] <^DodGeR^> how does one set a proxy for apt-get ?
[03:42] <Hikaru79> infared, lately the livecd booter has used the installer for some basic configuration options, but it is *still* most definitely a livecd.
[03:42] <harrytuttle> infared: i'm quite confidend it wont' install anything, you could try again, read it better and if still in doubt write it down
[03:43] <harrytuttle> ^DodGeR^: i would recommend approxd, but it's only in breezy.
[03:43] <pc5> kmusta s mga linux users
[03:44] <^DodGeR^> cant use breezy yet .. so what ure saying is i cant proxy apt-egt ?? ie i cant install anything if i am forced to use a proxy ?
[03:44] <erUSUL> ^DodGeR^: man apt.conf
[03:44] <^DodGeR^> sweet ta
[03:44] <p0windah> ^DodGeR^: its possible, but you'll need to read
[03:44] <^DodGeR^> if you could point me .. quite good at treading .o)
[03:45] <reiki> how do I see what video sriver is being used in Hoary?
[03:45] <n00blar> Hi all, anyone that can point me to an application that I use to play my DvDs on Ubuntu? I used to use xine, but don't know if I can use it with Ubuntu
[03:45] <harrytuttle> ^DodGeR^: there are other proxies for apt, but the best one is approxd. you could try to install it from breezy or from debian, or you could backport it, or you could live with another one
[03:45] <p0windah> check erUSUL's comment above
[03:45] <reiki> sriver=driver
[03:45] <p0windah> you dont need to install anything special for it to use a proxy, just read the man file
[03:45] <erUSUL> reiki: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep driver
[03:46] <reiki> erUSUL, thanks...
[03:46] <erUSUL> reiki: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep *Driver*
[03:46] <harrytuttle> ^DodGeR^: ops. do you need to setup apt to use a pre-existing proxy or do you need to set up a proxy server for use with apt?
[03:47] <draug_n> n00blar: VLC plays dvds. sudo apt-get install xine should work too
[03:47] <reiki> interesting... cat: /etc/X11/xorg.cong: No such file or directory
[03:47] <Will^Draven> im trying to build a kernel image using kernel-package and kernel-source-2.4.27 and i get this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2255
[03:47] <reiki> doh!
[03:47] <n00blar> draug_n, awesome..thanks
[03:47] <jpfarias> hey guys!
[03:47] <draug_n> np :)
[03:48] <jpfarias> does anyone knows if the current breezy kernel has inotify enabled?
[03:48] <erUSUL> ^DodGeR^: maybe it's easier through synaptic. Configuration->preferences->net
[03:48] <Fred|Fr3d> hey, anyone know if mIRC can run using WINE?
[03:49] <harrytuttle> jpfarias: yes
[03:49] <jpfarias> harrytuttle, ok, thanks!
[03:49] <erUSUL> Will^Draven: why do you want a 2.4 kernel?
[03:49] <jpfarias> harrytuttle, I think I'll try beagle, that desktop search tool
 hey, anyone know if mIRC can run using WINE? << I've tried it.. it seems to work but last time I used it the script editor was not.. editable. just try it. maybe wine's fixed that
[03:49] <Will^Draven> because my sound driver dosent support 2.6
[03:49] <jpfarias> haffe, it's really cool ;-)
[03:50] <jpfarias> ops
[03:50] <Fred|Fr3d> segosa: thanks, i will try :)
[03:50] <jpfarias> harrytuttle, it's really cool
[03:50] <harrytuttle> Will^Draven: which sound card, out of curiosity?
[03:51] <zanzara> lo
[03:51] <Cryptid> How do i get the Panel that Looks like OS-X launcher for Gnome
[03:51] <erUSUL> Will^Draven: aha...
[03:51] <^DodGeR^> that works erUSUL , thanks (will still need to figure out how to do the command line apt-get proxied at some point)
[03:51] <FireCat> Is anyone else getting kernel panics on shutdown with Breezy
[03:51] <Will^Draven> its a riptide, under slackware i had to install these drivers to get it to work: http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/ the HCF and the Riptide
[03:52] <harrytuttle> Will^Draven: nasty...
[03:52] <FireCat> I think it is in LVM at the end when it syncs
[03:52] <erUSUL> ^DodGeR^: maybe synaptic have set the proxy setting to all programs using apt (is a front end) try out cli and see what happens
[03:52] <Will^Draven> yeah well its the only hardware ive got right now
[03:52] <^DodGeR^> yeah will check soon as the lists are updated , tnx much
[03:53] <elvirolo> hi all
[03:54] <Will^Draven> there isnt some magic ubuntu apt command i could perform to switch to a 2.4 kernel by any chance is there? heheh
[03:54] <elvirolo> will it be possible, when breezy gets released, to upgrade from hoary without a hitch ? (ie: not having to run apt-get -f install, or fiddling with xorg.conf ...)
[03:55] <steven_Laptop> hello How do I check the running level im on?
[03:55] <djm62> steven_Laptop: telinit
[03:55] <FireCat> elvirol: Not sure, but I think dist-upgrade does that
[03:55] <p0windah> elvirolo: I did it a week back without problems
[03:55] <harrytuttle> Will^Draven: maybe installing a debian sarge 2.4 kernel, could work.
[03:56] <lonewolff> elvirolo: it should work well using apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:56] <djm62> steven_Laptop: and bear in mind that ubuntu is based on debian, which doesn't use runlevels like the RH-style distros
[03:56] <elvirolo> really ? i did it two weeks ago, and I had to run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:56] <lonewolff> elvirolo: i did it 2 days ago and didnt have to change anything
[03:56] <p0windah> had you previously hand tweaked your config files ?
[03:57] <lonewolff> (on both ppc and x86)
[03:57] <elvirolo> well ... it's a good thing if it works :)
[03:58] <steven_Laptop> djm62, thats what im fighting with here lol im trying so damn hard to setup my boot option here meaning im trying to get running level 4 to be the same as the default but with no network grrrr
[03:58] <elvirolo> something else ... is amarok 1.3 _definately_ not making it to breezy ?
[03:59] <Will^Draven> harrytuttle: any idea how i might go about obtaining said kernel?
[03:59] <p0windah> elvirolo: I see Version: 2:1.3.1-0ubuntu2 right now
[03:59] <steven_Laptop> I add to grub (Ubuntu No network) and that should be running level 4
[03:59] <steven_Laptop> grrrrr
[03:59] <elvirolo> p0windah: really ?!
[04:00] <p0windah> thats what "apt-cache show amarok" tells me
[04:00] <mirak> is apt-build known to have problemes with ubuntu ?
[04:00] <steven_Laptop> but its not working the way I want
[04:01] <elvirolo> p0windah: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=amarok&searchon=names&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[04:01] <n00blar> Ok, anyone that can give me a package source for me to dl xine? I can't seem to apt-get xine with my current source list
[04:01] <harrytuttle> Will^Draven: search for it on packages.debian.org (kernel-image-2.4-something), download the deb, install it widh dpkg. but it is calling for trouble. with 2.4 kernel no more udev, and expected problems with hotplug and the like.
[04:01] <Cryptid> WHAT IS GNOME PANEL
[04:01] <Will^Draven> bloody hell
[04:02] <FireCat> stephen_laptop: Why don't you just disable your network, and turn it on when you want it?
[04:02] <p0windah> elvirolo: I just pasted what my cache says, I'm using universe and multiverse
[04:02] <elvirolo> p0windah: weird, thanks anyway :)
[04:03] <harrytuttle> steven_Laptop: what about using a little init script that parses the kernel command line and if it founds "nonetwork" it disables the auto eth0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces?
[04:03] <steven_Laptop> FireCat, were and how do I disable the network and The Sync
[04:03] <Cryptid> How do i get the OS-X Launch panel imitation for Gnome????????????????????????????????????
[04:03] <p0windah> Cryptid: you ask politely
[04:03] <Cryptid> p0windah, sorry
[04:04] <Logtime> someone know a client ftp gui with SSL???
[04:04] <Cryptid> p0windah, ne ways how do i get it?
[04:04] <FireCat> stephen_laptop: System>Administration>Networking [Properties]   []  This device is configured
[04:04] <steven_Laptop> im up to trying anything here if im not around any networks this sucks I end up with a 3 min boot time
[04:04] <elvirolo> hum, something else (again) ... my wifi card is finally detected by breezy (which is great) but it (ie ra0) won't activate at startup
[04:04] <steven_Laptop> ok ic
[04:04] <Logtime> someone know a client ftp gui with SSL???
[04:05] <FireCat> Logtime: I think gftp does it
[04:05] <magnon> !gftp
[04:05] <ubotu> I don't know, magnon
[04:05] <apsync> how come, pc starts lagging when I move the slidebar while watching / listening movie or mp3?
[04:05] <steven_Laptop> gft
[04:05] <steven_Laptop> gftp
[04:05] <p0windah> Cryptid: maybe you can have a look at http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[04:05] <apsync> I have the right nvidia drivers now too
[04:05] <Logtime> gftpdoes problem
[04:05] <ablyss> Logtime, putty
[04:05] <erUSUL> elvirolo: edit /etc/network/interfaces a add somthin like auto ra0
[04:05] <Logtime> i've compiled but now
[04:06] <Logtime> with gui
[04:06] <Logtime> ?
[04:06] <Logtime> You must add the public key of your self signed CA to your OpenSSL certs directory. On my Debian box, the OpenSSL certs are installed in /usr/lib/ssl/certs.
[04:06] <elvirolo> erUSUL: ok thanks ... but why doesn't it do it by itself ?
[04:06] <ablyss> u will need to build putty so gcc is needed
[04:06] <Logtime> i need help to do that
[04:06] <ablyss> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
[04:06] <DjKritical> If anyone here is interested in making linux do things when you say commands into your microphone, go look up perlbox-voice
[04:06] <FireCat> Is anyone else getting kernel panics on shutdown with Breezy, I think in LVM I get a kernel sync panic and it locks up the box solid
[04:07] <ablyss> gftp doesn't do ssh ?
[04:07] <p0windah> Cryptid: this thread seems to have a few ppl doing similar stuff too http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57418&highlight=osx
[04:07] <erUSUL> elvirolo: not everybody want his interfaces up at boot time. System-->Administration->Net to make the change with gui
[04:07] <djm62> nautilus does sftp and sftp...Places->Connect to Server
[04:08] <nickrud> Logtime, /usr/share/doc/openssl/doc/HOWTO/certificates.txt.gz
[04:08] <elvirolo> erUSUL: yeah, i tried that ... but if i want it to activate, i have to change from dhcp to static ip (and vice versa) every time
[04:08] <BiSK-8> hello
[04:09] <BiSK-8> u ppl know any good text editor i can get through apt-get?
[04:09] <ablyss> BiSK-8, try sudo apt-get install mousepad
[04:10] <BiSK-8> can i drag- drop .class files with it?
[04:10] <ablyss> dunno, never tried.. .but I doubt it
[04:10] <BiSK-8> dammit
[04:10] <BiSK-8> i have a hex editor
[04:10] <ablyss> i like mousepad because it's so dern fast
[04:10] <BiSK-8> but i cant copy/paste
[04:10] <BiSK-8> that's the only 1?
[04:11] <ablyss> the only one i use besides vi.. :-D
[04:11] <BiSK-8> nope
[04:11] <BiSK-8> wont work
[04:11] <BiSK-8> thanks though
[04:11] <BiSK-8> bye
[04:11] <elvirolo> erUSUL: in fact; etc/network/interfaces DOES contain auto ra0
[04:11] <moparfan90> hello. how do i install the drivers for my pny vetry geforce FX card??
[04:12] <anonym> test
[04:12] <erUSUL> elvirolo: well, the problem is not there then
[04:13] <elvirolo> maybe the file is overwritten every time i boot up
[04:15] <n00blar> anyone knows a source to get libdvdcss2?
[04:19] <erUSUL> n00blar: hoary-extras?
[04:19] <jXpX> anyone use the amule?
[04:19] <clarkn0va> hey, i just got a wireless card for my laptop.  can someone tell me what the kernel modules are called now?   because the ubuntu documentation is wrong.
[04:20] <jXpX> tou losee
[04:20] <jXpX> format
[04:20] <CarlFK> clarkn0va - still called modules
[04:20] <CarlFK> clarkn0va - what are you talking about? ;)
[04:20] <liable> clarkn0va: depends what card it is..
[04:21] <clarkn0va> it's a linksys WPC11v4
[04:21] <n00blar> where can I get libdvdcss2? I'd like to play my commercial dvds with ubuntu
[04:21] <Hoxzer> How should I mount my floppy driver?
[04:22] <CarlFK> Hoxzer - I think it automounts when you use /media/floppy
[04:22] <Hoxzer> CarlFK: that seems not to work
[04:22] <erUSUL> n00blar: hoary-extras? i told you
[04:22] <CarlFK> Hoxzer - just a sec
[04:23] <clarkn0va> the documentation says it's supported, but then it names an apt module package that doesn't exist
[04:23] <[Wiebel] > does anyone have a good apt site where i can find w32codecs ?
[04:23] <erUSUL> Hoxzer: Places->System-> floppy
[04:23] <erUSUL> !tell n00blar [Wiebel]  about repos
[04:24] <test34> where should I put Totem movie player codecs ?
[04:24] <erUSUL> !tell n00blar about repos
[04:24] <Cryptid> p0windah, Thanx for alll the Help
[04:24] <erUSUL> !tell [Wiebel]  about repos
[04:24] <n00blar> er4z0r, ok...that sounds ok, but I don't know what hoary-extras is
[04:24] <Hoxzer> eRUSUL: thx
[04:24] <erUSUL> test34: it depends if you are using totem-xine or totem-gstreamer
[04:24] <test34> erUSUL, gstreamer
[04:25] <dskloet> I edited xorg.conf to have 1024x768 instead of 1280x1024 but now I have a virtual screen larger than my actual screen. What did I do wrong?
[04:25] <n00blar> erUSUL, ok..thanks
[04:25] <CarlFK> Hoxzer - nm - i thought the install setup automount.
[04:26] <hablandocontigo> My guess is this is the nfs port for Mac 548		afpovertcp  but my Ubuntu distro 2049 port is open for NFS. I've had problems connecting this Tiger to the nfs share.
[04:26] <FireCat> dskloet: Take out the 1280x1024
[04:26] <DjKritical> Does anyone know how to configure ubuntu to use 2 sound outputs/inputs?... I've got my normal soundcard+speakers and usb headphones&mic
[04:26] <dskloet> firecat, ok I'll try
[04:26] <DjKritical> my usb headset comes up in mixer... but I can't see how to switch
[04:27] <[Wiebel] > erUSUL: none of those include w32codecs
[04:28] <trip_naga> #naga
[04:28] <liable> !w32codecs
[04:28] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repository. AMD64? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 Legal issues: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:28] <erUSUL> [Wiebel] : i have them instaled from hoary-extras
[04:29] <test34> erUSUL, in /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/ right ?
[04:29] <mahounoai> hey guys, i'm having weird troubles with the JRE and Firefox, can anybody help?
[04:29] <erUSUL> read the page that ubotu told you. is not that hard ;)
[04:30] <erUSUL> test34: i do not know. Maybe you shoul use prepackaged codecs. where do you get the codec you are trying to install?
[04:30] <[Wiebel] > erUSUL:
[04:30] <[Wiebel] > Reinstallation of w32codecs is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[04:31] <test34> erUSUL, on mplayer's website.. codecs for wmv and others
[04:31] <rob^> umm if you say so heh
[04:31] <mahounoai> anybody know how to include the sun-j2re-1.5 into firefox?
[04:31] <erUSUL> test34: this are the w32codecs install from hoary-extras
[04:32] <erUSUL> mahounoai: how have you installed java?
[04:32] <[Wiebel] > it doesnt seem to exist anymore
[04:32] <rob^> !java
[04:32] <ubotu> somebody said java was to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:32] <rob^> man I love bots
[04:32] <test34> erUSUL, ok
[04:32] <mahounoai> yeah, i went through synaptic and installed sun-j2re1.5, and it ran fine in jedit
[04:32] <dskloet> FireCat, thanks it helped :)
[04:32] <mahounoai> when i opened firefox, though, it said it was missing
[04:32] <erUSUL> [Wiebel] : i have updated them last night don't know what coul have happened
[04:33] <dskloet> FireCat, by any chance, do you know how to make a meta key out of my windows key?
[04:33] <april> hi
[04:33] <mahounoai> hi
[04:33] <apsync> how come, pc starts lagging when I move the slidebar while watching / listening movie or mp3?
[04:33] <apsync> I have the right nvidia drivers now too
[04:33] <[Wiebel] > erUSUL: wel can you mail me the .deb? :)
[04:33] <dskloet> or anyone else? (winkey -> metakey?)
[04:34] <rob^> I wonder if its worth creating an intelligent bot that automatically answers questions instead of us having to use commands
[04:34] <steven_Laptop> ok im now booting to level 4 sweet we are almost there now in the start up how do I kill networking
[04:34] <erUSUL> [Wiebel] : i have a 56k dial-up :( the deb is too heavy....
[04:34] <FireCat> dskloet: No, I don't sorry
[04:34] <ompaul> !tell [Wiebel]  about restricted
[04:34] <dskloet> FireCat, ok thanks anyway
[04:35] <pedri2> anyone here?
[04:35] <rob^> ahha
[04:35] <steven_Laptop> no
[04:35] <FireCat> rofl
[04:35] <tigermb> how can i change the usplash image?
[04:35] <rob^> I wonder..
[04:35] <rob^> !usplash
[04:35] <ubotu> from memory, usplash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss
[04:35] <test34> how about breezy-extras ?
[04:35] <ompaul> pedri2, only about 456
[04:35] <pedri2> i have a usb webcam but i dont know which application to use to view it
[04:36] <steven_Laptop> FireCat, do you no the command to kill network starting at boot up?
[04:36] <[Wiebel] > erUSUL: ok
[04:36] <LinuxJones> tigermb, In the gconf-editor (don't know exactly where though :( )
[04:36] <[Wiebel] > i'll look for it
[04:36] <CarlFK> pedri2 - start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:36] <rob^> ubotu no usplash is in Breezy: sudo apt-get install usplash, for more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss
[04:36] <ubotu> okay, rob^
[04:36] <straw> hey peopls
[04:36] <mahounoai> erUSUL: when i installed the j2re1.5, it didn't register with firefox
[04:36] <FireCat> stephen_laptop: No, why do you ask?
[04:37] <straw> would you want to chat?
[04:37] <mahounoai> erUSUL: is the a config file for firefox, maybe?
[04:38] <harrytuttle> somebody could tell me what was the reason to split languages in packs in main? just to cut down the size of the install cd?
[04:38] <pedri2> CarlFK: thanks, do i have to install gnome meeting package coz i use kubuntu
[04:38] <DjKritical> Anyone know how to stop using onboard sound and start using usb sound?
[04:38] <n00blar> er4z0r, am I supposed to add those sources to my source-list?
[04:38] <ompaul> pedri2, http://tinyurl.com/7hujd may be of use two ubuntu resources on webcameras
[04:38] <FireCat> steven_laptop: I've seen slow boots because of lack of network, but from memory it is because of ntp
[04:39] <marc^> finally got it installed
[04:39] <hablandocontigo> My guess is this is the nfs port for Mac 548		afpovertcp  but my Ubuntu distro 2049 port is open for NFS. I've had problems connecting this Tiger to the nfs share. Can someone help troubleshoot my problem?
[04:39] <CarlFK> pedri2  - don;t know - just know ofthat page ;)
[04:40] <abeth> hi
[04:41] <straw> hi jazz
[04:41] <straw> wanna chat?
[04:41] <denbeiren> hello
[04:41] <marc^> anyone know about setting up dual moniters?
[04:41] <rob^> wheres the asl first? hehe
[04:41] <NoctisDei> hi. i am trying to compile xchat 2.4.5 but it gives an error: Could not run GTK+ test program ... can someone help?
[04:41] <heartEye> ok I want to install RealPlayer.  Where is the directory where program files are kept?
[04:41] <rob^> NoctisDei, one question: why?
[04:42] <mahounoai> hearteye: did you check the mplayer site?
[04:42] <NoctisDei> rob^: because it's the new version?
[04:42] <marc^> second moniter is currently blurred and stretched, probably needs to be set 800x600 like my computer on windows
[04:42] <rob^> Breezy has 2.4.4
[04:42] <vanberge> im going to ask this in here just bc you guys are always helpful... is it possible to tell httpd to use physical ram instead of swap?  then have other processes use the swap?  :-/   tks in advance, wont ask again.
[04:42] <heartEye> its a mozilla plugin, mahounoai
[04:42] <rob^> what feature is in 2.4.5 that you need it so badly?
[04:42] <pacer> hello.  Anyone know why section 2 from man pages is empty?
[04:42] <NoctisDei> rob^: security bugs
[04:42] <dr_willis> vanberge,  its not worth messing with. Linux is so good at when to use swap file ior not.
[04:42] <NoctisDei> rob^: check xchat website
[04:43] <NoctisDei> anyway... can someone help?
[04:43] <steven_Laptop> marc^, you running nvidia?
[04:43] <rob^> NoctisDei, they are patched into the package
[04:43] <vanberge> dr_willis, well, in my case it would be kind of worth it...  httpd uses swap alot
[04:43] <steven_Laptop> marc^, m running daul
[04:44] <NoctisDei> rob^: don't understand... xchat 2.4.4 is already patched?
[04:44] <marc^> ati
[04:44] <marc^> radeon 9550
[04:44] <dr_willis> vanberge,  ive seen a large # of debates/articals on trying to outsmart linux and how it uses swap or real ram.. and they almost alwyas agreed - its not gaining you anything.. there may be some other apache twe4aks that may help you however.
[04:44] <marc^> ive got it set up properly in windows, main 1024x768 and second 800x600
[04:44] <steven_Laptop> ouch good luck Im running nvidia there not even close
[04:44] <pacer> Anyone know why section 2 from man pages is empty?
[04:44] <p0windah> vanberge: yould ofcourse try out lighttpd
[04:45] <thespiritoftal> I just turn on my computer and realized that package manager is working... why is that? does it do updates automatically? or what else may be the reason?
[04:45] <p0windah> you could...
[04:45] <pacer> Anyone know why section 2 from man pages is empty?
[04:45] <NoctisDei> rob^: is xchat 2.4.4 (ubuntu package) already patched?
[04:45] <rob^> NoctisDei, hang on just checking
[04:45] <p0windah> pacer: sometimes the developers just havent got anything to stick in them
[04:45] <NoctisDei> rob^: ok
[04:45] <steven_Laptop> marc^, ATI is a bitch in linux
[04:45] <marc^> oh goody
[04:46] <p0windah> pacer: if you want to double check, try: apt-get install --reinstall package
[04:46] <erUSUL> thespiritoftal: yes it does or maybe you sved the sesion with synaptic open
[04:46] <marc^> well, im considering a 6600gt
[04:46] <marc^> :)
[04:46] <vanberge> mainly i'd just like to give httpd higher priority...
[04:46] <heartEye> wtf is the Prefix for Symbolic Links?
[04:46] <pedri2> do i have to install gnome meeting to get my usb webcam working?
[04:46] <erUSUL> steven_Laptop: i'm quite happy with my ati and radeon drivers. man radeon
[04:46] <p0windah> vanberge: have you tried lighttpd ?
[04:46] <steven_Laptop> marc^, NVdia rocks in linux
[04:46] <marc^> erUSUL,  you know anything about dual moniters?
[04:47] <steven_Laptop> erUSUL, you running daul monitors?
[04:47] <vanberge> p0windah, no...
[04:47] <p0windah> vanberge: I switched from apache and recommend it
[04:47] <rob^> NoctisDei, I cant tell you for sure, but if not they will be shortly
[04:48] <erUSUL> steven_Laptop: marc^ no :(
[04:48] <p0windah> vanberge: its memory footprint is lighter, its faster and supports native fast-cgi load balancing
[04:48] <pacer> p0windah: How can i get the Linux Programmer's manual ?
[04:48] <vanberge> p0windah, what about mysql, ssl, etc.
[04:48] <NoctisDei> rob^: ok... but, i want to compile xchat now. and gives that error. can you help me?
[04:48] <marc^> well, way to fix it is to set res 800x600 and 60hz
[04:48] <p0windah> vanberge: yup, yup and yup
[04:48] <marc^> but i want the main window as 1024 and at least 75 hz
[04:48] <rob^> NoctisDei, what is the security problem?
[04:48] <erUSUL> marc^ but the man page for radeon says it support dual head and Xinerama
[04:48] <p0windah> vanberge: sites like isohunt that are both database and hit heavy are using it right now
[04:49] <NoctisDei> rob^: i don't know. but i just want to compile it...
[04:49] <steven_Laptop> erUSUL, hehehe thats were it falls  been there tryed that mashed that...
[04:49] <erUSUL> Marc^ try googling a bit
[04:49] <waltz> Question: Has the autogreeter crash been fixed in 5.10?
[04:49] <NoctisDei> everything is ok except that strange error (Could not run GTK+ test program)
[04:49] <ompaul> !ops
[04:49] <ubotu> rumour has it, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[04:49] <rob^> NoctisDei, check out http://xchat.org/changelog.txt
[04:49] <waltz> When I loaded Ubuntu last time, for some reason it couldn't enter the desktop environment
[04:50] <NoctisDei> it detects glib, openssl, ipv6... but no gtk+ *sigh*
[04:50] <marc^> maybe ill try sleeping a bit
[04:50] <NoctisDei> ok.............
[04:50] <rob^> its probably not worth compiling for that
[04:50] <marc^> almost 1am
[04:50] <dr_willis> waltz,  what crash?
[04:50] <marc^> can i access other hard drives with ubuntu
[04:50] <p0windah> marc^: sure can
[04:50] <marc^> cause i have no music here
[04:50] <dr_willis> marc^,  you can mount them and access them all ya want.
[04:51] <[Wiebel] > erUSUL: is it for you inpossible to reinstall w32codecs as well?
[04:51] <erUSUL> !tell marc^ about windowsdrives
[04:51] <waltz> dr_willis: I loaded Ubuntu onto a 400 gig HDD, and then for some reason, after it had finished loading, it couldn't start the "autogreeter" program.
[04:51] <dr_willis> waltz,  im not even sure what you mean by the auto-gteeter program. :P i just installed it twide here last night on 2 diff machines.. no probopems so far.
[04:51] <rob^> 
[04:52] <waltz> hmm
[04:52] <vertigo> Is universe and multiverse access not available for breezy?
[04:52] <rob^> vertigo, it is
[04:52] <ompaul> RichiH, long time no see :)
[04:52] <dr_willis> Hmm.. given a group of several ubuntu box's on the same lan.. there an easy way to get ONE machien to download the updates and  so forth. and then have the otehr machines use THAT machines copies? not redownload the updates
[04:52] <rob^> !repos
[04:52] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:52] <vertigo> I am getting errors in synaptic once I remove the ## for them
[04:52] <Sundar> hi all
[04:52] <dr_willis> vertigo,  use 'sudo apt-get update' first
[04:52] <p0windah> dr_willis: there is
[04:53] <RichiH> ompaul: and not under a good star, either
[04:53] <Sundar> I want xmms for unbuntu
[04:53] <Sundar> can anyone help me ? pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ?
[04:53] <rob^> vertigo, you don't remove all of the ##, only the ones that are commenting out the deb lines
[04:53] <dr_willis> Sundar,  then apt-get install it. :P
[04:53] <ompaul> RichiH, no I jave called for ops
[04:53] <dr_willis> Sundar,  i just isntalled it and a dozen+ plugins for xmms.
[04:53] <Sundar> dr_willis:  apt-get install xmms ?
[04:53] <Angel-SL> how do i get chinese?
[04:53] <_Soldier_> buenas
[04:53] <rob^> whats with all the people joining/parting?
[04:53] <ompaul> Sundar, with the word sudo in front of that
[04:53] <dr_willis> Sundar,  time to read up on the fundamentals of installing things and using apt-get and synaptic :P
[04:53] <pacer> How can i get the Linux Programmer's manual in my man pages?
[04:53] <p0windah> dr_willis: check out approx and apt-proxy
[04:54] <n00blar> dr_willis, actually it works as apt-get install xmms-ui
[04:54] <vertigo> I know that, and that's exactly what I did
[04:54] <ompaul> rob^ bot attack
[04:54] <vanberge> p0windah, there must be a way to run httpd with a higher priority though?
[04:54] <rob^> super..
[04:54] <vertigo> It worked on hoary
[04:54] <p0windah> what is that going to achieve ?
[04:54] <vertigo> and it bitches at me in breezy
[04:54] <erUSUL> [Wiebel] : not a problem for me
[04:54] <firsttimer> hi, can anyone help me set up my wireless card? I followed the wiki on both ndiswrapper and ubuntu but it still dosent work
[04:54] <erUSUL> vanberge: man nice
[04:54] <Angel-SL> how do i get chinese fonts?
[04:55] <waltz> What could be the possibilities of the auto-greeter program crash? Bad CD? Bad HDD? ...the fact that the HDD is connected to a motherboard which previously ran Win32? ...
[04:55] <p0windah> Angel-SL: apt-get install ttf-arphic*
[04:55] <[Wiebel] > erUSUL: hmm
[04:55] <[Wiebel] > that's strange
[04:55] <_Soldier_> i am newbie, i am thinking in to install ubuntu. what do you think that i must be use, lilo or grub?
[04:55] <Sundar> dr_willis:
[04:55] <Sundar> sudo apt-get install xmms
[04:55] <Sundar> Reading package lists... Done
[04:55] <Sundar> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:55] <Sundar> Package xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:55] <Sundar> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:55] <Sundar> is only available from another source
[04:55] <Sundar> E: Package xmms has no installation candidate
[04:55] <p0windah> heh
[04:55] <rob^> NoctisDei, I really wouldn't bother
[04:55] <p0windah> you bad
[04:55] <[Wiebel] > erUSUL: i'm running breezy, with hoary-extras in m'n apt sources
[04:55] <[Wiebel] > should work right?
[04:55] <firsttimer> _soldier_ lilo is suppose to be more advanced
[04:55] <erUSUL> Sundar: do *not* flood the channel use pastebin as stated on the topic
[04:56] <dr_willis> Sundar,  try 'sudo apt-cache xmms' and see if  its in some other package name
[04:56] <rob^> bob2, you around?
[04:56] <n00blar> Sundar, try apt-get install xmms-ui instead
[04:56] <Sundar> dr_willis: thanks
[04:56] <anyw> Is there a way to get kde 3.5 with breezy ?
[04:56] <dr_willis> i tend to just use synaptic and  click on everything that said xmms at the front. :P
[04:56] <erUSUL> [Wiebel] : well i'm on haory you will have to live with the shotcomings of an unstable release ;)
[04:56] <bayram> halo
[04:56] <p0windah> vanberge: I dont use apache anymore, and although I am sure you can increase its priority. how do you expect things to play out with reiser, mysql, and whatever cgi you are running ?
[04:56] <firsttimer> hi, can anyone help me set up my wireless card? I followed the wiki on both ndiswrapper and ubuntu but it still dosent work
[04:57] <ompaul> rob^, used the bot to call for ups they all have been informed if they are online - now the question is are they looking, obviously not so we go again in a few minutes
[04:57] <p0windah> vanberge: increasing its priority, to the detriment of other processes
[04:57] <pacer> p0windah: How can i get the Linux Programmer's manual in my man pages?
[04:57] <Sundar> dr_willis: n00blar: nothing works :'(
[04:57] <p0windah> pacer: apt-cache search linux manual
[04:57] <rob^> ompaul, yeah I'll see if I can track them down
[04:57] <vanberge> p0windah, im not too worried about them... the httpd processes are the ones that take the most resources, so i want them to be processed with higher priority
[04:57] <ompaul> Sundar, please use paste.ubuntulinux.nl when you have a lot of data or #flood
[04:58] <p0windah> vanberge: switch to lighttpd then
[04:58] <Sundar> ok
[04:58] <_Soldier_> can i talk in pm with any people to ask a questions?
[04:58] <p0windah> _Soldier_: you can try :)
[04:58] <gncuster> hi there, does anyone know how to control the color depth for an external crt using i855crt?
[04:58] <bayram> wie kann ich xine ber ubuntu instaliere
[04:58] <firsttimer> _Soldier_, what qauestion?
[04:58] <erUSUL> _Soldier_: ask here
[04:58] <lonewolff> _Soldier_: best to ask in channel, where there are more people to answer your question
[04:58] <_Soldier_> I have a lot questions
[04:58] <ompaul> RichiH, can you make this place +r, if so  please be our guest
[04:58] <n00blar> Sundar, u may need to add sources to your source-list file
[04:59] <p0windah> _Soldier_: have you read www.ubuntuguide.org ?
[04:59] <Sundar> n00blar: how to add ?
[04:59] <rob^> !ubuntuguide
[04:59] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[04:59] <dolmen> _Soldier_: are you a bot?
[04:59] <ompaul> _Soldier_, dont use that
[04:59] <firsttimer> !faq
[04:59] <ubotu> faq is, like, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[04:59] <p0windah> the guide isnt that bad
[04:59] <rob^> p0windah, yes it is
[04:59] <rob^> see above
[04:59] <ompaul> p0windah, it may work for you, but _please_ do not suggest it to anyone
[05:00] <ompaul> RichiH, thanks
[05:00] <_Soldier_> yeah, i read a ubuntu guide
[05:00] <_Soldier_> but i want to ask opinion to install ubuntu on my laptop
[05:00] <p0windah> so whats the sanctioned link ?
[05:00] <ompaul> p0windah, nope, smell broken machines, and people crying about stuff not working
[05:00] <ompaul> p0windah, wiki and faq
[05:00] <p0windah> gotcha
[05:01] <p0windah> _Soldier_: read the topic and dont ask to ask
[05:01] <p0windah> better ?
[05:01] <firsttimer> can anyone help me trouble shoot my wireless card problem, driver is installed, power light for card is on, but iwlint wlan0 scan yields nothing
[05:01] <ompaul> p0windah, say it with love :)
[05:01] <anyw> No way to have kde 3.5 with uuntu ?
[05:01] <stelki> Hello, is there a program to see how good your wireless connection is?
[05:01] <firsttimer> er iwlist...
[05:01] <_Soldier_> ok
[05:01] <firsttimer> stelki, try reading iwlist and iwconfig man pages
[05:01] <apsync> is it possible to change the port in GNOME BitTorrent?
[05:01] <stelki> firsttimer, ok :)) thanks
[05:01] <n00blar> Ok, I have xmms and libdvdcss2 and can't watch any dvds still. Xine complaints that it can't read the source. Any ideas?
[05:01] <vanberge> nice --10 /etc/init.d/httpd start    :-)
[05:02] <vanberge> p0windah, i can already tell that makes a difference
[05:02] <firsttimer> maybe there is a wireless channel I should be asking on?
[05:02] <ompaul> n00blar, did you do it the way it is described on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?
[05:02] <erUSUL> n00blar: have you set the correct device in preferences for xine
[05:02] <p0windah> vanberge: I'm sure you can :)
[05:02] <stelki> firsttimer, mine is named ath0.. is it not listed in ifconfig?
[05:02] <Sundar> is there any command to list the packages that are available in net via apt-get ?
[05:03] <stelki> firsttimer, sorry if its a stupid suggestion, I dont know anything about it
[05:03] <waltz> What could be the possibilities of the auto-greeter program crash? Bad CD? Bad HDD? ...the fact that the HDD is connected to a motherboard which previously ran Win32? ...
[05:03] <firsttimer> stelki, usually your wirelss card will be wlan0 or wlan1 or the like
[05:03] <reiki> Sundar: you can open Synaptic, highlight "all" ... and browse or search
[05:03] <Angel-SL> still
[05:03] <firsttimer> stelki, when you plug your card in do you get its power light to come on? or are you using some internal wireless card?
[05:04] <p0windah> Angel-SL: fonts working ?
[05:04] <Talky> can anyone tell me whats the proper iocharset for fat32 partitions
[05:04] <Talky> i have set it to utf8
[05:04] <Angel-SL> p0windah: not even after i restarted X
[05:04] <stelki> firsttimer, yea, the led is blinking
[05:04] <p0windah> Angel-SL: let me check, I have chinese fonts installed
[05:04] <firsttimer> stelki, the power or signal led?
[05:04] <stelki> firsttimer, both
[05:04] <Talky> but it gives me warinnig that its not proper iocharset
[05:04] <waltz> Could someone please respond to my question?
[05:04] <ompaul> RichiH, see this: http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/64014 ?
[05:04] <erUSUL> Talky: it depends on where you can from...
[05:05] <pacer> p0windah: Thank you very much ;)
[05:05] <firsttimer> stelki well thats good...
[05:05] <n00blar> erUSUL, it actually reads the title of the dvd, but it won't play it. And going through the setup screen half of those tabs say..there's no config option to display
[05:05] <stelki> firsttimer, I didnt even install a driver, its some netgear thing, but tahts no help for you
[05:05] <erUSUL> Talky: it depends on where you come from...
[05:05] <erUSUL> n00blar: :(
[05:05] <Talky> uhuh erUSUL
[05:05] <Talky> didn't get you
[05:05] <ompaul> Talky, a lot of people use iocharset=iso8859-1
[05:05] <reiki> waltz: define "auto-greeter"
[05:05] <p0windah> Angel-SL: apt-get install xfonts-intl-chinese*
[05:06] <p0windah> Angel-SL: that should install traditional and simplifed
[05:06] <firsttimer> stelki, can you register with your wireless connection?
[05:06] <Talky> ic ompaul thnx
[05:06] <Talky> :)
[05:06] <waltz> reiki: After all the libraries are loaded, Ubuntu supposedly starts the auto-greeter program, which starts X-Windows....
[05:06] <erUSUL> n00blar: well i do not know how to help you further... so :(
[05:06] <ompaul> Talky, what erUSUL was saying was it depends on your location which set you tend to use
[05:06] <stelki> firsttimer, what do you mean register? it works, yea.. im not using secure wifi though, wouldnt let me connect using it, still investigating
[05:07] <firsttimer> stelki, what are you trying to troubleshoot then if its working?
[05:07] <waltz> Do you know what I'm talking about?
[05:07] <MrFaber> hi all
[05:07] <stelki> firsttimer, im not troubleshooting anything, was trying to help you heh, but im not much of a help
[05:07] <MrFaber> Is this the right channel to post bugs or ask for solutions?
[05:07] <firsttimer> stelki, oh ic lol
[05:07] <p0windah> Angel-SL: apt-get install ttf-microsoft-sim*  <- simli and simyou from microsoft
[05:08] <MrFaber> RichiH, :)
[05:08] <ompaul> MrFaber, ask for solutions, and we will if it a bug point you to reporting it :) buzilla.ubuntu.com so don't ask to ask let's play who has a bug today :)
[05:08] <CarlFK> other than vi, is there a command line way to add a repo to /etc/apt/sources?
[05:08] <p0windah> CarlFK: no
[05:08] <CarlFK> I want to script it
[05:08] <firsttimer> stelki, well my problem when i type iwlist wlan0 scan it does nothing
[05:09] <MrFaber> ok, I have a problem that always when my frequency changes my mouse stops for one or two seconds
[05:09] <erUSUL> CarlFK: a dozen or so XD
[05:09] <CarlFK> XD?
[05:09] <firsttimer> mrfaber, you cpu freq?
[05:09] <p0windah> there are many
[05:09] <MrFaber> yes
[05:09] <MrFaber> Filbert, yes
[05:09] <MrFaber> :)
[05:09] <MrFaber> firsttimer, yes
[05:09] <stelki> firsttimer, sounds weird, try opening network-admin and see if its there? thats all I did
[05:09] <MrFaber> to much users :)
[05:09] <Sundar> I want X-devel ( .h & lib ) files ? I couldn't find in synaptic
[05:09] <erUSUL> echo "source line" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:10] <Angel-SL> right
[05:10] <firsttimer> stelki, ill try that right after breakfast ;-)
[05:10] <p0windah> Angel-SL: fixed ?
[05:10] <Sundar> how can I install it >
[05:10] <stelki> firsttimer, ok =)
[05:10] <Angel-SL> p0windah: uh-uh..restarted X...
[05:10] <Talky> :(
[05:10] <Sundar> anybosy pleaseeeeeeeee
[05:10] <p0windah> Angel-SL: that's great
[05:10] <RichiH> ompaul: ah, now i can place you completely. selfhtml?
[05:10] <dooglus> hi all.  what file contains the "Xlib" library please?
[05:10] <Angel-SL> p0windah: i'm trying to view with gedit..no results..:(
[05:10] <RichiH> ompaul: and yes, i read that :)
[05:11] <firsttimer> j
[05:11] <RichiH> ompaul: cu, til the next time :)
[05:11] <Angel-SL> p0windah: hello? it isnt fixed yet
[05:11] <CarlFK> man aptget is confusing me.  where do I put --assume-yes? (before or after "install")
[05:11] <MrFaber> Which cpu frequency utility is used by ubuntu?
[05:12] <p0windah> Angel-SL: so whats working and what isnt working ?
[05:12] <Angel-SL> CarlFK: after.
[05:12] <CarlFK> thanks
[05:12] <MrFaber> Kernel ondemand module works very fine for me on other distro
[05:12] <Angel-SL> p0windah: nothing is worlking for chinese/
[05:12] <erUSUL> CarlFK: try both and see what happens
[05:12] <p0windah> Angel-SL: ok, what kind of settings do you have in your /etc/locale.gen file ?
[05:12] <MrFaber> Has anyone the same problem?
[05:13] <erUSUL> Angel-SL: have you generated the locales?
[05:13] <p0windah> Angel-SL: and if you load up gedit, can you see the chinese fonts you installed in the font list dialog ?
[05:13] <Angel-SL> p0windah: i can erUSUL: i havent done anything with locales p0windah: locales file only has en_SG ISO-8859-1
[05:13] <CarlFK> erUSUL - like this: apt-get --assume-yes install --assume-yes curl ;)
[05:14] <p0windah> ah ok
[05:14] <p0windah> Angel-SL: you probably want to change the 8859-1 to utf-8
[05:14] <p0windah> UTF-8, rather
[05:14] <Angel-SL> wil english still work then?
[05:14] <p0windah> yes it will
[05:14] <p0windah> but SG wont work in 8859-1
[05:15] <Kejk_PL> hi, utf-8 is still not good idea for Polish users. I'm using iso8859-2 :)
[05:15] <vertigo> When I remove the ## from my sources.list, I get this error, using breezy
[05:15] <vertigo> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[05:15] <vertigo> What the hell is that about?
[05:15] <erUSUL> Angel-SL: and maybe you need to restar x or xft to reload system fonts
[05:16] <erUSUL> vertigo: you are using an unstable release live with it ;)
[05:16] <CarlFK> vertigo - paste your sources.list to the paste page that is around here...
[05:16] <MrFaber> I have an old Dell Inspiron 8200 with 1200/1600 MHZ. It only hangs for some seconds when cpu freq is changed back to 1.2 GHZ
[05:16] <Talky> can anyone let me know how to change the default setting GRUB
[05:16] <vertigo> Carl, it's the default for the Breezy preview
[05:16] <Talky> i want to boot window xp as default
[05:16] <Talky> os
[05:16] <vertigo> Should I just replace them with a mirror?
[05:16] <CarlFK> vertigo - you tweeked it
[05:17] <CarlFK> Talky - vi /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:17] <vertigo> Carl, all I did was remove the ## for the universe repository, that's all
[05:17] <marc`> the -real- #ubuntu
[05:17] <vertigo> works for Hoary
[05:17] <apsync> how come some things don't get saved when I close pc?
[05:17] <MrFaber> Talky, edit /boo/grub/menu.lst
[05:17] <Talky> what next CarlFK
[05:17] <MrFaber> :)
[05:18] <Talky> then MrFaber
[05:18] <Talky> .......
[05:18] <Talky> what should i edit there
[05:18] <Talky> ?
[05:18] <MrFaber> Is XP already listed?
[05:18] <apsync> how come some things don't get saved when I close pc?
[05:18] <CarlFK> look for default
[05:18] <ompaul> marc`, hu?
[05:18] <vertigo> WTF!
[05:18] <vertigo> I restarted synaptic and it worked
[05:18] <Talky> yes MrFaber
[05:18] <MrFaber> Talky, and change the value to the position of xp
[05:18] <vertigo> there are strange things afoot in breezytown
[05:18] <MrFaber> just count :)
[05:18] <marc`> just trying to get registered to get here
[05:19] <MrFaber> Talky, and count the information lines with it
[05:19] <CarlFK> Talky - change "default         0" to "default         1" or "default  saved"
[05:19] <marc`> thanks to whoever told me how to load windows hard drives
[05:19] <CarlFK> I like "saved":
[05:20] <Talky> thnx MrFaber
[05:20] <Talky> thnx CarlFK
[05:20] <Talky> CarlFK
[05:20] <Talky> one more query
[05:20] <CarlFK> yer welcome
[05:20] <CarlFK> no need to stop at on ;)
[05:20] <CarlFK> one
[05:21] <ompaul> Talky, could you please keep all your text on the one line, it would take up a lot less screen space and let someone who is slower have a chance to read the screen :)
[05:22] <p0windah> sounded like a, "I've got this friend who is a slow.... but its not me" explanation ompaul
[05:22] <Sundar> where can I get xorg-devel packages ?
[05:22] <CarlFK> lol
[05:22] <marc`> so i've got my other hard drives, need an MP3 plugin
[05:22] <ompaul> p0windah, now calling me slow might be something you can get away with now and again  :)
[05:22] <Sundar> anybody here to help me..................................
[05:23] <CarlFK> all your packages belog to http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:23] <p0windah> I can see the line and will be careful not to cross it
[05:23] <FireCat> Sundar: Did anyone pm you to try to help you?  :)
[05:23] <Talky> how can i configure the winmodem (conexant HSF modem ) in ubuntu?
[05:23] <ompaul> Sundar, if you  stopped asking a second time I might actually take the time to answer your first question
[05:23] <uklondon> if i get files not found on mirror when using ''apt-get update' can i change the mirror and how would i do it ?
[05:24] <marc`> workspaces just caught me out
[05:24] <marc`> where did all my windows go!?
[05:24] <CarlFK> Sundar guessing you want xorg source?  or just headers?  (im kinda clueless about packaged source)
[05:25] <Talky> ok ompaul :), i will try :)
[05:25] <uklondon> can anyone help me
[05:25] <setite-SFD> this is not a help channel... are you nuts?
[05:25] <setite-SFD> haha
[05:25] <uklondon> if i get files not found on mirror when using ''apt-get update' can i change the mirror and how would i do it ? <-
[05:26] <p0windah> uklondon: in a terminal type "sudo apt-get update"
[05:26] <p0windah> uklondon: then re-try
[05:26] <uklondon> i did
[05:26] <uklondon> i did
[05:26] <uklondon> more than 4 times
[05:26] <setite-SFD> what mirror is failing
[05:26] <CarlFK> uklondon - do you like command line or GUI?
[05:26] <p0windah> uklondon: do you know how to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file ?
[05:26] <Paradosso> what mail client do you people use?
[05:26] <setite-SFD> CarlFK - im assuming apt-get update woudl have been in CLI... just a guess
[05:26] <marc`> how do i get an mp3 plugin
[05:26] <CarlFK> good point
[05:27] <setite-SFD> !tell marc` about mp3
[05:27] <uklondon> i can do both CarlFK
[05:27] <p0windah> setite-SFD is certainly wise
[05:27] <uklondon> but not at the moment im on putty from work
[05:27] <wsmith> .ubuntufaq
[05:27] <setite-SFD> uklondon join #flood and paste the failures from the console in there
[05:27] <CarlFK> uklondon - setite-SFD got you covered
[05:27] <uklondon> ok
[05:27] <p0windah> uklondon: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change uk.archive(I'm guessing) to us.archive
[05:27] <wsmith> marc`, ubuntuguide.org
[05:27] <Sundar> how can I install a package from .deb file ?
[05:27] <ompaul> setite-SFD, if you use pastbin.ubuntulinux.nl then it lasts longer :)
[05:28] <CarlFK> setite-SFD - how come whenI ask for a paste I get flack? ;)
[05:28] <wsmith> Sundar, dpkg --instal <fn>
[05:28] <wsmith> --install
[05:28] <setite-SFD> yea changing to us... or no us at all perhaps...
[05:28] <Belutz> Sundar: dpkg -i package.deb
[05:28] <ompaul> Sundar, is it not available already for Ubuntu?
[05:28] <setite-SFD> oh your using marillat
[05:28] <setite-SFD> hmmm yucj
[05:28] <drapelyk> what is my groupname on a standard server install?
[05:28] <uklondon> p0windah, ok ill try that
[05:28] <p0windah> drapelyk: pinky
[05:28] <setite-SFD> uklondon - i must ask what are you using marillat for
[05:28] <Sundar> thanks
[05:29] <uklondon> dunno
[05:29] <drapelyk> p0windah really?
[05:29] <uklondon> im new to linux
[05:29] <p0windah> drapelyk: j/k
[05:29] <setite-SFD> hes using marilla... there is no uk in them
[05:29] <drapelyk> p0windah lol... I was gonna say...
[05:29] <ompaul> marillet is not the way
[05:29] <p0windah> uklondon: I use hk.archive(in hong kong) and most countries has local repositories
[05:29] <setite-SFD> uklondon what are you trying to get
[05:29] <ompaul> restricted is the way to do that kind of thing
[05:29] <uklondon> well alot of thing
[05:29] <uklondon> s
[05:29] <setite-SFD> marillat is no longer a necessary evil with backports and hoary-extras
[05:29] <uklondon> originaly linx
[05:29] <uklondon> or link2
[05:29] <uklondon> or links
[05:30] <drapelyk> Anyone: what is my groupname on a standard server install?
[05:30] <uklondon> what do i nedd to change exsacltly
[05:30] <ompaul> !tell uklondon about restricted
[05:30] <setite-SFD> im in windoze atm... is links not on the backports or hoary-extras?
[05:30] <p0windah> drapelyk: groupname for what program ?
[05:30] <CarlFK> duh... what happened to libdvdcss2 ?
[05:30] <setite-SFD> !hoary-extras
[05:30] <ubotu> I heard hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[05:30] <ompaul> uklondon, that link from the channel bot will help with codecs
[05:30] <drapelyk> p0windah, i'm installing Apache2 and configuring the User and Group entries
[05:30] <uklondon> ok paul
[05:30] <CarlFK> as in: E: Package libdvdcss2 has no installation candidate
[05:30] <setite-SFD> !tell uklondon about hoary-extras
[05:31] <p0windah> drapelyk: i see, I think apache uses www-data ?
[05:31] <p0windah> someone correct me if I'm wrong ?
[05:31] <CarlFK> p0windah - yer correct
[05:31] <drapelyk> p0windah, right, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP?highlight=%28MySQL%29
[05:31] <pedri2> im currently installing breezy preview release on a separate computer, what does LVM mean?
[05:32] <Sundar> thanks guy... for helping me.
[05:32] <Sundar> thanks to all
[05:32] <TheRepublic> i got a question
[05:32] <p0windah> drapelyk: whats special about that page ?
[05:32] <mjr> setite-SFD, Hurd ;)
[05:32] <p0windah> setite-SFD: BeOS calls to you
[05:32] <dr_willis> why bother. :P
[05:32] <TheRepublic> how can i install the VLC player using the 5.10 PR  Live CD
[05:32] <dr_willis> CPM!
[05:33] <drapelyk> You may want your current user to be the PHP pages administrator. Search both the strings starting by "User" and "Group", and change the names by the current username and groupname you are using.
[05:33] <setite-SFD> sundar - what is suse like... i think i tried it for like a day... but that was a livecd i think...
[05:33] <ompaul> setite-SFD, ubuntu - kubuntu - edubuntu ?
[05:33] <setite-SFD> ompaul - nah one untu is enough :)
[05:33] <setite-SFD> ompaul - im looking for a faster OS... particularly a 64bit os...
[05:34] <TheRepublic> anyone ?
[05:34] <ompaul> setite-SFD, #gentoo out of the channel turn left third door on the right :)
[05:34] <p0windah> drapelyk: I see
[05:34] <kevor> setite-SFD: if you want a faster OS, install ubuntu SERVER and apt-get install xfce4
[05:34] <kevor> period
[05:34] <drapelyk> p0windah, I just don't know what to do
[05:34] <setite-SFD> ompaul - thanks... im looking into them, and slamd64
[05:34] <p0windah> drapelyk: what that means, is if you dont like the default username/password that apache is using; you can change it so something else
[05:34] <mjr> setite-SFD, hmm, faster, 64-bit, hey, I know, Ubuntu/AMD64
[05:35] <drapelyk> what does www-data mean?
[05:35] <p0windah> drapelyk: but since I think you are new to this, leave it as is, since most howto's/guides will assume you have a default installation
[05:35] <uklondon> ok i still have error
[05:35] <p0windah> drapelyk: the user used for apache is "www-data" and the group is also called "www-data"
[05:35] <ompaul> TheRepublic, you can't keep it on that CD but you can burn the deb onto another disk if you have it, do this >>>> /msg ubotu tell me about synaptic
[05:35] <lsuactiafner> setite-SFD : fastest is gentoo, most effort also. ubuntu is decent and least effort
[05:35] <p0windah> drapelyk: unless you've got a very good reason to change it to another user and group, its fine to leave it be
[05:35] <uklondon> can someone make me a  /etc/apt/sources.list file and paste it on pastebin.com
[05:35] <setite-SFD> mjr - thats what i have... but it has no speed over 32bit... firefox, OOo, and such still open same speed... in slamd64 i hear OOo opens in under 3 seconds on a 64bit cpu much slower than mine
[05:35] <drapelyk> p0windah is that not a security issue?
[05:36] <lsuactiafner> setite-SFD : gentoo is fastest non-commerical linux
[05:36] <p0windah> drapelyk: its more of an issue if you use one of your desktop accounts actually
[05:36] <drapelyk> ok
[05:36] <drapelyk> Thanks
[05:36] <p0windah> uklondon: post your sources.list onto the site
[05:36] <uklondon> setite-SFD, can you please check my lastest errors
[05:36] <ompaul> Sundar I know those sources are out there, I can't find them, I have been looking, will continue to :)
[05:36] <uklondon> ok
[05:36] <uklondon> i can since im on putty
[05:36] <lsuactiafner> setite-SFD : firefox is faster in 64bit, use it heavily, open around 200 tabs then switch tabs quickly
[05:36] <uklondon> cant8
[05:37] <lsuactiafner> you will see the difference
[05:37] <uklondon> oh wait
[05:37] <uklondon> i can
[05:37] <uklondon> meh
[05:37] <setite-SFD> uklondon i seriously would avoid marillat if possible... its just not quality
[05:37] <setite-SFD> try libdvdcss2 there... see how badly it decodes
[05:37] <uklondon> how can i take it off ?
[05:37] <uklondon> can someone make me a  /etc/apt/sources.list file and paste it on pastebin.com
[05:37] <setite-SFD> put a # in front of all the lines on your sources.list
[05:37] <uklondon> ok
[05:37] <setite-SFD> in console sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:37] <lsuactiafner> i agree, those mplayer packages really suck, but unless you compile it yourself its best to use those packages
[05:38] <trilliji> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:38] <Talky> how can i modify or alter the chat script in modem
[05:39] <Talky> i want to change the timeout setting
[05:39] <uklondon> setite-SFD, http://pastebin.com/366380
[05:39] <uklondon> is thast right
[05:39] <ompaul> uklondon, that looks good
[05:40] <uklondon> wow no errors
[05:40] <uklondon> ty for help
[05:40] <ompaul> uklondon, before you go
[05:40] <uklondon> yes
[05:40] <uklondon> im notleaving
[05:40] <ompaul> uklondon, have a look at that page about restricted that uboto messaged you with eariler
[05:41] <uklondon> yes briefly
[05:41] <uklondon> i think everything is working ok now
[05:41] <ompaul> uklondon,  the foot of that has a script in it that if you remove the first bit up to the actual package names it will look after all of that
[05:41] <uklondon> ty all for you pleasant help
[05:42] <p0windah> I barely helped, but I'll take pleasant
[05:42] <ompaul> Talky, have a look at pppconfig
[05:42] <uklondon> ompaul, im doing it right now ty
[05:42] <mike23> greetings
[05:43] <ompaul> mike23, hello
[05:43] <mike23> is there multiverse package fot brezy-badger?
[05:43] <selinium> any hdparm gurus about?
[05:43] <ompaul> mike23, yes
[05:43] <ompaul> mike23, yes, if I understand you,
[05:44] <mike23> well snaptic show a button for it but when i try to add it via gui notheing happens
[05:45] <uklondon> theres alot of downloading on that script
[05:45] <XKpe> hi
[05:45] <uklondon> :/
[05:46] <XKpe> on ddclient how can i get external ip from a usrobotics router?
[05:46] <ompaul> mike23, it works for me, I just added some repos
[05:46] <CarlFK> XKpe - try traceroute
[05:46] <mike23> I need the APt line?
[05:46] <CarlFK> XKpe - but Im guessing
[05:47] <mike23> Add repository address
[05:47] <ompaul> nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:47] <ompaul> mike23,  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:47] <setite-SFD> nano eh
[05:48] <ompaul> mike23, to get out of that program you need Ctrl+O (letter o to write stuff) and Ctrl+X to exit
[05:48] <ompaul> setite-SFD, you can only say that if your name is burns :)
[05:49] <uklondon> just a random question is .deb debian install pakages ?
[05:49] <dr_willis> hmm. On one ubuntu install (5.10) the screen blanks and locks.. on the other machine. it dosent lock.  wonder if thats because one is a laptop - and some powersaver is kicking in
[05:49] <mike23> yes but no multiverse repository address in sources.list
[05:49] <ompaul> uklondon, yes, however don't add ones that are not specifically for your version of the OS or you will feel a pain that is sooooo sore
[05:49] <Chadz0r> hello, i have a problem with ubuntu live cd
[05:49] <ompaul> mike23, so add one :)
[05:49] <uklondon> lol ok
[05:50] <Chadz0r> it cannot find my modem, so i cant use a dial up connection
[05:50] <Chadz0r> what should i do?
[05:50] <ompaul> Chadz0r, ls /dev/modem does that return anything?
[05:50] <dr_willis> look up your brand of modem - on google and see how well it has linux support. is also a good idea
[05:51] <CarlFK> is there a util to test a CDrom drive speed?
[05:51] <Chadz0r> it gives an error, something like check if it is connected properly
[05:51] <Chadz0r> autodetect doesn't find it, nor doesnt it work with any of the options given there
[05:51] <ompaul> Chadz0r, how old is it?
[05:51] <Chadz0r> from 2003
[05:52] <ompaul> Chadz0r, so it really should not be dead yet :)
[05:52] <uklondon> what should i do to clean all the tmp files all at ones  ?
[05:52] <Chadz0r> well i'm using it now with windows
[05:52] <Chadz0r> its working with win
[05:52] <Juhaz> is it a winmodem?
[05:52] <Chadz0r> i just dont know, what to do with that Modem Port thingie
[05:53] <Chadz0r> its COM3 on windows
[05:53] <stelki> Is there a way to "echo" stuff unto your gnome desktop? say I want "perl script.pl" written on my desktop, which program would I use?
[05:54] <ompaul> Chadz0r, it is most likely a win modem check its type for linux support as dr_willis suggested
[05:55] <Chadz0r> its something like pci softv92 modem
[05:55] <ElVirolo> hi again
[05:55] <reffie> hi, how do you right-click in ubuntu-ppc?
[05:55] <magnon>  I'd say a weird combination of transparent xterms and tail -f would do it, stelki
[05:55] <reffie> (i have a powerbook)
[05:55] <ElVirolo> ra0 still isn't configured at boot up
[05:55] <magnon> apple-click?
[05:56] <reffie> magnon you mean press cmd and click?
[05:56] <mike23> stelki: if you find the answer please email me
[05:56] <reffie> magnon if so, that doesn't work
[05:56] <oolon> reffie if you're using a mac it's usually control click
[05:56] <magnon> yeah
[05:56] <reffie> oolon that's how i do it it os x, but it doesn't work on ubuntu
[05:57] <magnon> I think that works on my powerbook
[05:57] <magnon> havent been in ubuntu on it for long
[05:57] <magnon> yeah, ctrlclick doesnt work
[05:57] <oolon> reffie, maybe check the mouse in control center to see if there is an option
[05:57] <reffie> oolon there isn't
[05:58] <oolon> those bastards!
[05:58] <ompaul> !tell Chadz0r about winmodem
[05:58] <Chadz0r> ompaul, could it be something like PCTEL 2304WT MDC V.92 in linux?
[05:58] <ElVirolo> ideas about how activating a network interface at boot time, anyone?
[05:58] <z3r0x> hi guys
[05:58] <z3r0x> I have a problem with alsa. I can't start it without errors -> http://pastebin.com/366387
[05:59] <ompaul> ElVirolo, it should happen automagically
[05:59] <ElVirolo> ompaul, well, it doesn't
[05:59] <Chadz0r> how does that help me then, if i know the name of the modem in linux?
[06:00] <ompaul> ElVirolo, can you connect when the machine has booted?
[06:00] <BiSK-8> hello
[06:00] <TokenBad> well I found out why my computer was slowing down all the time
[06:00] <mike23> ompaul:thanks got what I needed by adjusting sources.list
[06:00] <TokenBad> its some file called gam_server
[06:00] <ElVirolo> ompaul, yes, but it have to activate it manually
[06:00] <ElVirolo> I*
[06:00] <BiSK-8> can any1 tell me where 2 find the java plugin for ubuntu's firefox?
[06:00] <Chadz0r> :|
[06:01] <ompaul> Chadz0r, the url that ubotu sent you will explain more about it
[06:01] <Chadz0r> ompaul, ubotu? i havent received anything from him
[06:01] <ompaul> ubotu told Chadz0r about winmodem (extra, extra, read all about it, winmodem is To get started with winmodems on linux, see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/)
[06:01] <ubotu> ompaul: what are you talking about?
[06:02] <ElVirolo> ideas anyone?
[06:02] <ompaul> ElVirolo, what kind of network connection is it?
[06:03] <ElVirolo> ompaul, a wifi card (ra0)
[06:03] <TokenBad> did some research on the file...and seems can kill it...then just rename the file...so it will not open again
[06:03] <TokenBad> so hope that fixed the problem
[06:03] <TokenBad> anyone else have have a problem with gam_server?
[06:03] <mcscruff> how do i install install-crossover-standard-demo-4.2.sh
[06:03] <ompaul> ElVirolo, what command doyou issue to bring up the conneciton?
[06:04] <ElVirolo> ompaul, in fact i use the network manager
[06:04] <ElVirolo> oh, and i'm using breezy (but i used to have the same prob under hoary)
[06:05] <ompaul> ElBarono, so you do this every time gksudo network-admin
[06:05] <ElVirolo> ompaul, yes
[06:05] <GranMaestro> Hi ther everybody. I wonder if any of you has solved the yaboot installer bug with hoary/breezy ppc?
[06:05] <ompaul> ElBarono, then how long does it take to get a connection?
[06:05] <ompaul> GranMaestro, was not under an impression there was such a beast
[06:06] <ompaul> ElVirolo , then how long does it take to get a connection?
[06:06] <GranMaestro> ompaul: there is on an exteranl disk. Standard internal is OK
[06:06] <ElVirolo> ompaul, well, it's pretty much instant
[06:06] <ccfiel> i cannot find this directory debian/config/ARCH/
[06:06] <ElVirolo> eth0 gets configured at boot time, but not ra0
[06:06] <ompaul> GranMaestro, I know nothing of using external disks
[06:07] <ccfiel> i cannot find this directory debian/config/ARCH/ . where the wikki told me something about this? what shall i installed?
[06:07] <GranMaestro> ompaul: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64012
[06:07] <ompaul> ElVirolo, please put the contents of ifconfig in paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:08] <GranMaestro> ompaul: well thanks for answering any way
[06:08] <BiSK-8> can any1 tell me where 2 find the java plugin for ubuntu's firefox?
[06:09] <ompaul> GranMaestro, and even more I know little of ppc Ive been using x86 since time began or 1980 :)
[06:09] <Chadz0r> ompaul, i think my modem is a Winmodem chipset with "Linmodem" drivers type
[06:09] <GranMaestro> ompaul: I was using Apple ] [ at that time :-D
[06:10] <ompaul> Chadz0r, so that web page will guide
[06:10] <ElVirolo> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2256
[06:10] <ompaul> GranMaestro, I remember doing that actually with dos V 1 on it oooh dear my brain :)
[06:11] <ompaul> ElVirolo, the whole machine please :)
[06:11] <neighborlee> BiSK-8, http://ubuntuguide.org/ < go there and search for 'sun' and just follow directions , its fairly easy.
[06:11] <LasseL> BiSK-8, try sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[06:11] <mcscruff> i cant install crossover office CAN anyone help
[06:11] <Chadz0r> ompaul, so i need a driver for it?
[06:11] <ompaul> Chadz0r, that would be the thing
[06:11] <Chadz0r> ompaul, and i install it on windows or what?
[06:11] <GranMaestro> ompaul: good al times, when things where real simple, they will never come back.. ;-)
[06:12] <airox> Hi, SMP kernel in breezy broken ?
[06:12] <ompaul> Chadz0r, GranMaestro  ElVirolo, have to do a job here back in a few
[06:12] <setite-SFD> stupid windows wont let me resize C:
[06:12] <setite-SFD> partition magic gives me error 983... too many errors found... wtf
[06:12] <LasseL> setite-SFD, I belive you can resize from the installer
[06:12] <setite-SFD> i defragged many times
[06:12] <mcscruff> setite-SFD, boot into a linux live ditro and use QTparted on it
[06:12] <Snoblower> can i put ubuntu onto a CD-RW or does it have to be a CD-R?
[06:13] <setite-SFD> i will if i have to... but i wanna do it now.. before i download a distro
[06:13] <airox> Snoblower, depends on your cdrom player.
[06:13] <Chadz0r> ah the hell with it .>
[06:13] <airox> s/player/device/
[06:13] <airox> If it supports CD-RW then you can.
[06:13] <ElVirolo> ompaul, ok
[06:13] <setite-SFD> guess a 3rd OS is not in the cards... this is lame
[06:13] <drapelyk> Anyone: How do I move files to my server via SSH?
[06:14] <airox> drapelyk, use sftp.
[06:14] <dr_willis> or 'scp'
[06:14] <drapelyk> airox: do I need to set anything up on the server?
[06:14] <LasseL> drapelyk, you can even write sftp://username@server in nautilus
[06:14] <airox> drapelyk, Gnome can connect to it. Checkout Places -> Connect to server ...
[06:14] <airox> drapelyk, yep.
[06:14] <LasseL> drapelyk, obviously a ssh server
[06:14] <drapelyk> sudo apt-get install sftp?
[06:14] <airox> drapelyk, You should have something like subsystem /usr/bin/sftp-server or something like that
[06:15] <drapelyk> I already have OpenSSH
[06:15] <airox> in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[06:15] <airox> drapelyk, I guess you can try it now. Normally it's enabled by default.
[06:15] <drapelyk> k
[06:16] <drapelyk> airox, so what am I to do?
[06:17] <airox>  Checkout Places -> Connect to server ...
[06:17] <airox> The fill in the appropriate info.
[06:18] <erichb> Hi!
[06:18] <airox> drapelyk, as a alternave you can use sftp or scp in the command line interface.
[06:18] <erichb> Can anyone help me with a problem I'm having with the Nvidia proprietary driver?
[06:18] <drapelyk> I want to use sftp
[06:18] <airox> erichb, ask :)
[06:18] <slept> erichb, depends on the problem
[06:18] <dr_willis> heh - that ssh thing works nicely
[06:19] <sorush20> is there a phrase for. I'll do what you advise.
[06:19] <airox> drapelyk, Places -> Connect to server ...
[06:19] <dr_willis> that little  connect to server.. made an icon - it dident popup a window and connect. :P
[06:19] <setite-SFD> anyone use another distro besides ubuntu and besides windoze
[06:19] <BiSK-8> LasseL, wont work....u gave me the wrong sudo command
[06:19] <dr_willis> i just saw the icon on the desktop.
[06:19] <airox> Then select SSH.
[06:19] <sorush20> My decision is at your discretion
[06:19] <drapelyk> airox, ok
[06:19] <erichb> TYVM, I installed the driver using apt-get and then changed over to the 686-smp kernel and now I can't seem to get apt-get to build the driver for the new kernel. Maybe I'm to used to Gentoo?
[06:19] <drapelyk> airox then what?
[06:19] <dr_willis> setite-SFD,  ive used many.
[06:19] <christos> should rm parser.[^y] * delete file parser.ty?
[06:19] <drapelyk> airox ok
[06:20] <setite-SFD> dr_willis - any that you feel are better than ubuntu in some aspects?
[06:20] <drapelyk> airox my toolbar locked up any suggestions?
[06:20] <dr_willis> christos,  try the same wildcard with 'ls' and see what file names it prints out. is how i test that stuff
[06:20] <dr_willis> setite-SFD,  not really.
[06:20] <dr_willis> setite-SFD,  they all got pros and cons.. and specific uses.. but over all ubuntu - is very very well done.
[06:21] <erichb> I already tried 'apt-get remove nvidia-glx' and then 'apt-get install nvidia-glx' again.
[06:21] <airox> erichb, you did the things mentioned on ubuntuguide.org ?
[06:21] <MrFaber> I have installed a new kernel (686) and still have the problem with hangs on cpu freq changes.
[06:21] <slept> erichb, its not the glx package its the kernelmodule you need
[06:21] <airox> drapelyk, locked up ?
[06:22] <ElVirolo> ****************************************************************************************************
[06:22] <slept> erichb, you can build your own with module-assistant or just apt-get it
[06:22] <drapelyk> airox the task bar is frozen, yeah
[06:22] <erichb> ok... is there a guide somewhere for the kernelmodule?
[06:22] <erichb> apt-get what?
[06:22] <drapelyk> airox Places is highlighted like I selected it, but it won't let me click anything
[06:22] <airox> erichb, checkout ubuntuguide.org.
[06:22] <erichb> I don't mind using stock for now, I just swicthed from Gentoo to Ubuntu last night so I'm trying to play it safe for now.
[06:22] <slept> erichb, restricted modules , do you know about apt-cache search ?
[06:22] <ElVirolo> **************************************************************************************************************************************************
[06:22] <slept> ElVirolo, stop it
[06:23] <erichb> slept, barely.
[06:23] <ompaul> back
[06:23] <airox> erichb, http://ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver
[06:23] <erichb> sweet, I'll check that out... TY again.
[06:23] <[PG] _Sinnlos> hello
[06:24] <slept> erichb, just try apt-cache search nvidia
[06:24] <[PG] _Sinnlos> http://pastebin.com/366420  <<my problem
[06:24] <Belutz> why is everytime i plug my flash drive, ubuntu mount it as read only, how do i make it writable ?
[06:24] <airox> Nobody knows anything about kernel panic with current SMP kernel on breezy ?
[06:25] <darksatanic> airox: amd64?
[06:25] <airox> I have a dual xeon with hyperthreading on both cpu's.
[06:25] <airox> But It gives kernel panic with the kernel which i got from an update.
[06:26] <airox> darksatanic, no ;)
[06:26] <darksatanic> OK, not the problem I was thinking of, then.
[06:26] <airox> darksatanic, thanks anyway :)
[06:26] <TokenBad> anyone else have have a problem with gam_server?
[06:26] <airox> I'm booted with the default kernel (386) now.
[06:26] <slept> TokenBad, that you have to kill it to be able to eject a cd ?
[06:26] <airox> It also updated but it works OK.
[06:27] <TokenBad> no...
[06:27] <TokenBad> this is a file that was eating up resources
[06:27] <drapelyk> back
[06:27] <TokenBad> and why my pc was running so slow
[06:27] <drapelyk> Airox: back
[06:27] <ElVirolo> ompaul, did you have a look at my ifconfig output ?
[06:27] <airox> drapelyk, welcome back :)
[06:27] <TokenBad> the longer it ran the more it ate
[06:27] <ompaul> ElVirolo, yeap I had wanted it all :)
[06:27] <drapelyk> Airox I have done that Connect to Server things before using SSH, it does not allow me to transfer files though?
[06:28] <ElVirolo> ompaul, oh, with lo too ?
[06:28] <erichb> ok... it looks as though if I install linux-restricted-modules-686-smp then that should solve the problem?
[06:28] <mjr> drapelyk, it does
[06:28] <ompaul> ElVirolo,  and ethX
[06:28] <airox> drapelyk, You can browse the remote server though ?
[06:28] <drapelyk> airox: correct
[06:28] <ElVirolo> ompaul, eth0 is not configured anyway, i don't use it on the laptop
[06:28] <airox> drapelyk, do you have rights on the remote server to transfer files (e.g.: write permission on the dir) ?
[06:29] <drapelyk> I guess not, how do I get them?
[06:29] <TokenBad> slept, I started running this monitor program on cpu and stuff...and just about all the time it would pop up about this program eating up over 85% of my cpu usage
[06:29] <airox> drapelyk, using chmod.
[06:29] <ompaul> ElVirolo,  you said it was up first eariler iirc
[06:29] <drapelyk> airox ?
[06:29] <drapelyk> airox do I not want write persmission on the entire drive?
[06:29] <airox> drapelyk, you don't know chmod ?
[06:29] <ompaul> ElVirolo, okay hang about a momement I want to look at something
[06:30] <ElVirolo> ompaul, well, when it is configured/activated in network-admin, it *does* get activated at boot time ... but i've deactivated it now since i dfon't use it
[06:30] <drapelyk> airox: nope
[06:30] <ElVirolo> ompaul, ok :)
[06:30] <airox> drapelyk, your first linux server ? :)
[06:30] <MrFaber> Does somebody how to disable cpu frequency changing in ubuntu? I would prefer the ondemand governor since I haven't had any problems with it.
[06:31] <drapelyk> airox yes
[06:31] <slept> TokenBad, thats not the problem I had , I remember there is an entry in the wiki that should fix sth, for me it didn't so have a try
[06:31] <ompaul> ElVirolo, fire up the network manager
[06:31] <airox> drapelyk, I guess you need to checkout man chmod then. Maybe you should get a book or find some articles about basic linux things like how the rights work in linux.
[06:31] <airox> drapelyk, I can't help you learn everything. Sorry.
[06:32] <TokenBad> I just renamed the file
[06:32] <TokenBad> I took the gam_server and renamed it gam_server.old
[06:32] <TokenBad> so it wouldn't run
[06:32] <ElVirolo> ompaul, yup
[06:32] <ompaul> ElVirolo, down the bottom what does it say is default?
[06:33] <stelki_> anybody know how to use colours in a terminal?
[06:33] <ompaul> ElVirolo, down the bottom what does it say is default gateway device?
[06:33] <setite-SFD> anyone uses Yoper
[06:33] <ompaul> setite-SFD, this is #ubuntu #yoper is somewhere else
[06:34] <ElVirolo> ompaul, ra0
[06:34] <ompaul> ElVirolo, click on properties
[06:34] <setite-SFD> ompaul - aware of that... just asking if anyone has tried it
[06:34] <setite-SFD> used*
[06:34] <apsync> hi, how can I remove something from the startup?
[06:34] <ElVirolo> ompaul, yup
[06:34] <slept> TokenBad, thats not the way to fix things thats the way to break them
[06:34] <[Wiebel] > apt-get install rcconf
[06:34] <[Wiebel] > and run rcconf
[06:35] <apsync> and where is rcconf?
[06:35] <[Wiebel] > that's for apsync
[06:35] <ompaul> does it say (A) enabled (b) the device name is ra0 and (c) the config is dhcp ?
[06:35] <ompaul> ElVirolo,  does it say (A) enabled (b) the device name is ra0 and (c) the config is dhcp ?
[06:35] <TokenBad> slept, I did research online about it first..and seems the people that did that hasn't had any negagtive effects from it
[06:35] <apsync> wiebel where is rcconf , in a specific folder?
[06:35] <BiSK-8> 'lo
[06:36] <BiSK-8> again
[06:36] <BiSK-8> can u ppl tell me a good textt editor that i can open .class files with ?
[06:36] <BiSK-8> text*
[06:36] <Tomcat_> BiSK-8: .class files are binary files... there's nothing to read in there.
[06:36] <ElVirolo> ompaul,  and (b) are true but i use static address (but the prob is the same with dhcp, i still have to activate it manually)
[06:36] <[PG] _Sinnlos> http://pastebin.com/366420  <<my problem
[06:36] <[Wiebel] > apsync: its a binairy
[06:36] <apsync> oh
[06:36] <[Wiebel] > just install it and run it
[06:36] <apsync> just in terminal
[06:36] <apsync> ah ok thank you
[06:36] <[Wiebel] > yes
[06:37] <Tomcat_> BiSK-8: But of course you can use less, vi, emacs, pico, nano, gedit, kate, ...
[06:37] <ompaul> ElVirolo, the static address info is in there?>
[06:37] <BiSK-8> gedit wont work tomcat
[06:37] <erichb> worked like a charm, thanks all.
[06:37] <Tomcat_> BiSK-8: Yeah, it doesn't like binary files sometimes. But why would you want to read class files anyway?
[06:37] <ElVirolo> ompaul, yes
[06:37] <BiSK-8> personal matters... :D
[06:38] <tscherler> hi all
[06:38] <ompaul> ElVirolo, and the obvious little check box is checked?
[06:38] <tscherler> I am updating my system to 5.04
[06:38] <tscherler> I read an article that talked about changng an entry in gnome-config to enable import
[06:38] <tscherler>  but I cannot find it anymore
[06:38] <tscherler> somebody has an idea?
[06:38] <ompaul> ElVirolo, you got a gateway and subnet there?
[06:38] <apsync> Wiebel, everytime I start ubuntu, Gaim loads 2 times, and it does not appear in that list in rcconf
[06:39] <Tomcat_> BiSK-8: Most editors that don't try to detect encoding will do it... just install whatever you like. :)
[06:39] <[Wiebel] > ah
[06:39] <[Wiebel] > apsync: you ment gnome
[06:39] <ElVirolo> ompaul, yup
[06:39] <apsync> that msn client
[06:39] <[Wiebel] > apsync: system -> prefs -> sessions
[06:39] <[Wiebel] > check the tab: startup programs
[06:39] <[Wiebel] > and if it's not there
[06:40] <[Wiebel] > try killing gaim
[06:40] <apsync> nope its not there
[06:40] <apsync> ok
[06:40] <[Wiebel] > and then log uit and save the session
[06:40] <ompaul> ElVirolo, okay here is what I would do
[06:40] <tscherler> ha/me looking for a good evolution update link
[06:41] <tscherler> where I can find how to import my 2.0.2 data into 2.1*
[06:42] <setite-SFD> does GRUB automatically update the OSs?
[06:42] <[Wiebel] > ?
[06:42] <[Wiebel] > what do you mean
[06:42] <setite-SFD> i notice it adds new kernels for ubuntu but what if i installed xp64... or even ubuntu32 also
[06:43] <[Wiebel] > ?
[06:43] <[Wiebel] > i still don't understand you
[06:43] <setite-SFD> im not speaking to you wiebel
[06:43] <[Wiebel] > ok, suit yourself
[06:43] <ElVirolo> ompaul, what would you do?
[06:44] <firsttimer> where do i find my system log?
[06:44] <ompaul> ElVirolo, I am gone searching for a script file - sorry back in  moment
[06:44] <[Wiebel] >  /var/log
[06:44] <tucats> thanks
[06:44] <[Wiebel] > sure
[06:44] <ElVirolo> ompaul, ok no prob, thks :)
[06:44] <StyXman> I'm about to jump to breeezy. I already read the upgrade notes, and aren't as scary as I spected. so, did anoyne tried it lately? any suggestions before I break Hell loose (TM)?
[06:44] <slept> setite-SFD, do update-grub
[06:44] <apsync> wiebel, still comes back, but now 3 times lol
[06:45] <apsync> gonna try 1 more thing
[06:45] <tucats> wiebel, what file am i looking for?
[06:45] <[Wiebel] > syslog
[06:45] <[Wiebel] > apokryphos: that's odd
[06:45] <tucats> tks again
[06:45] <[Wiebel] > er
[06:45] <drapelyk> airox: you still there?
[06:45] <[Wiebel] > hm
[06:45] <airox> drapelyk, yes.
[06:45] <slept> tscherler, did you try  file >import...
[06:45] <drapelyk> I changed the file permission that was easy, but it still will not transfer files
[06:46] <drapelyk> it gives me a Generic Error
[06:46] <airox> drapelyk, changed permission on the dir also ?
[06:46] <airox> drapelyk, hmm ..
[06:46] <airox> Don't know about that error.
[06:46] <[Wiebel] > apokryphos: are you sure you killed al gaim instances and you saved the session while logging out ?
[06:46] <drapelyk> i did 'chmod -w -R www'
[06:46] <tscherler> yes but "old evolution" is not an option, only outlook, mozilla, ...
[06:46] <Cilmeron> good day
[06:47] <airox> drapelyk, better watch out with -R
[06:47] <drapelyk> should change all of the files within and including folder www to write
[06:47] <slept> tscherler, maybe there is no difference between old and new have a try
[06:47] <BockBilbo> SOS Im in a really hurry.... ive messed up with the partitions and now the partition table is broken... i cant access to my data partition... can anyone help me??? Im running the breezy preview live cd
[06:47] <Cilmeron> i have a question about the kubuntu live-on-cd
[06:47] <BockBilbo> gparted doesnt show up the partitions
[06:47] <drapelyk> airox, I know it's a small folder
[06:47] <Cilmeron> is there any way to activate su in it?
[06:47] <Cilmeron> as user ubuntu it
[06:47] <Cilmeron> is impossible to mount a device
[06:47] <ompaul> ElVirolo, before I make a suggestion what is the result of this in terms of file names only, >> ls -l /etc/network/run  <<
[06:47] <tscherler> yes if I copy ~/.evlution/ from my old to new I still get the wiyard
[06:47] <Cilmeron> very bad thing for a live cd I think
[06:48] <ompaul> !tell Cilmeron about mount
[06:48] <BleckityBleck> Hey everyone, quick question... my computer won't mount DVDs... ive downloaded libdvdcss, and it mounts regular CDs perfectly fine, but even when i try to mount it manually it says to specify a filesystem... any ideas?
[06:48] <dr_willis> Cilmeron,  i used 'sudo passwd' in the past to set the root password - so you could thebn 'su -' to root
[06:48] <dr_willis> Cilmeron,  or use 'sudo xterm'
[06:48] <ompaul> !tell Cilmeron about root
[06:48] <dr_willis> but on a Live cd... not sure - normally the consoles are allready logged in as root
[06:48] <ompaul> Cilmeron, those two things that ubotu told you about should be good
[06:48] <drapelyk> airox, how do you check for file permissions?
[06:48] <ElVirolo> ompaul, -rw-r--r--  1 root root 6 2005-09-17 17:51 ifstate
[06:48] <Cilmeron> hm I
[06:49] <Cilmeron> ve got to check that out
[06:49] <airox> drapelyk, ls -l
[06:49] <airox> drapelyk, i have to go now ..
[06:49] <Cilmeron> thanks and see ya ;)
[06:49] <[Wiebel] > apsync: does it work now?
[06:49] <drapelyk> airox, k
[06:49] <ompaul> ElVirolo, okay if you do this >> cat ifstate << does it mention ra0=ra0 ?
[06:50] <apsync> yes, I did not save the settings before logging out
[06:50] <apsync> was wondering what that was though :)
[06:50] <[Wiebel] > of course it is :P
[06:51] <ElVirolo> ompaul, ha, no, only lo=lo
[06:51] <slept> BleckityBleck, did you try to play it with xine or mplayer ?
[06:51] <ElVirolo> ompaul, should i change it to ra0=ra0 ?
[06:51] <ompaul> ElVirolo, no do not replace try putting it in there
[06:51] <ElVirolo> ompaul, ok
[06:52] <ompaul> ElVirolo, use >>sudo nano ifstate<<
[06:52] <mik3> Seveas are you here Mr. Man
[06:52] <BleckityBleck> slept: just try to open up the /dev/cdrom0 in xine/mplayer?
[06:52] <BleckityBleck> slept: i haven't tried playing it, as its not mounted
[06:52] <ompaul> ElVirolo, when done Ctrl+O Ctrl+X (write and exit)
[06:52] <ElVirolo> ompaul, yup done
[06:53] <ompaul> ElVirolo, then there is only one test
[06:53] <slept> BleckityBleck, you dont have to mount it live vcds just click on dvd and then play (for xine) mplayer should be the same
[06:53] <ElVirolo> ompaul, let me change runlevels ... brb :)
[06:53] <BleckityBleck> slept: ahhh, alright... well theoretically though, what if i wanted to view the filesystem?
[06:54] <ompaul> ElVirolo, choose init 6
[06:54] <apsync> I have downloaded Azureus now, it was compressed, I decompressed all files to my desktop, readme says run with ./azureus, first time it made a folder .Azureus/, can't I install this or move it to /etc/ or something, cus I dont like a full desktop with files
[06:55] <DerTeufel> how can I get the "open terminal" in context menu (right mouse key) on desktop in breezy (gnome)?
[06:55] <apsync> or better, make a clickable shortcut
[06:55] <tucats> where does ubunt mount my fat32 partitions?
[06:56] <slept> DerTeufel,  ALT +F2 , xterm
[06:56] <tucats> its in media right?
[06:56] <tucats> or dev/hda
[06:56] <lordprotector> does anyone else have problems where their wireless card decides to change SSIDs to some random, not-you-own secure network (where obviously you can't do anything) and then refuse to let you connect to any other SSID?
[06:56] <DerTeufel> yeah I can open it so, but with 5.04 I could just right click and say "open terminal"
[06:56] <BleckityBleck> another question, when i try to install gstreamer0.8-lame (or any of the gstreamer stuff) i get " Depends: liblame0 (>=3.96.1-1) but it is not installable"
[06:56] <ompaul> tucats, it will be a dev mounted in a media
[06:57] <tucats> ompaul, so /dev/meda/partionname or something?
[06:57] <tucats> er media...
[06:57] <stelki_> Anybody know how to prevent amsn from opening windows randomly?
[06:57] <BleckityBleck> and xine/mplayer... is there a repository i have to add for them?
[06:57] <ompaul> tucats, no /dev/somedisk (hda) /media/someword
[06:57] <BleckityBleck> (nvm, my bad, forgot to comment out universe :P)
[06:58] <DerTeufel> mount -t ntfs -o uid=BENUTZERNAME /dev/hda1 /media/windows_c ... is for mounting pats ... so I think you can mount it wherever you say it should mount it :)
[06:58] <ompaul> tucats, raw device mounted directory
[06:58] <tucats> ompaul well its not in my /media directory
[06:58] <tucats> so i guess that leaves /dev
[06:58] <ompaul> tucats, no that is for devices
[06:59] <DerTeufel> it mounts under media
[06:59] <ompaul> tucats, read this  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[06:59] <DrData> Can proftpd convert dirs on the fly to a .tar.bz2 file?
[07:00] <jc-denton> hi all
[07:00] <jc-denton> how does swsups work in breezy?
[07:00] <dr_willis> jc-denton,  :P it dident work very well for me at all.
[07:00] <jc-denton> im able to susp the sys by doing $ echo disk > /sys/power/state
[07:00] <jc-denton> but i cannot resume
[07:00] <dr_willis> Pc went into hibernation.... and dident want to wake up. :P
[07:01] <tucats> ompaul, thats a handy script
[07:01] <jc-denton> yes
[07:01] <jc-denton> u have to give the swap parition as option for the kernel afaik
[07:01] <apsync> I have downloaded Azureus now, it was compressed, I decompressed all files to my desktop, readme says run with ./azureus, first time it made a folder .Azureus/, can't I install this or move it to /etc/ or something, cus I dont like a full desktop with files
[07:01] <apsync> or better, make a clickable shortcut
[07:01] <jc-denton> like resume=/dev/hda3
[07:01] <jc-denton> but it did not work for me
[07:01] <jc-denton> well i'm afk
[07:02] <mik3> no way beavith
[07:02] <jc-denton> if somebody knows please write
[07:02] <dr_willis> apsync,  may want to check the ubuntu wikis on that program.
[07:02] <ElVirolo> hi again
[07:02] <ElVirolo> ompaul, i still have to activate it manually :(
[07:02] <apsync> hmm
[07:02] <tscherler> what is the gnome tool to configure the install applications?
[07:03] <mik3> what?
[07:03] <mik3> you talking about synaptec?
[07:04] <tscherler> me, no
[07:04] <tscherler> like reg edit
[07:04] <DerTeufel> how to play mp3s??
[07:04] <mik3> hehe regedit
[07:04] <ElVirolo> tscherler, gconf
[07:04] <tucats> so, for old dos games should i use dosbox or do you think wine might work better?
[07:05] <lordprotector> does anyone else have problems where their wireless card decides to change SSIDs to some random, not-you-own secure network (where obviously you can't do anything) and then refuse to let you connect to any other SSID until you restart?
[07:05] <dr_willis> wine is not for DOS games
[07:05] <dr_willis> :P
[07:05] <dr_willis> dosbox works very good for me for the old dos games however.
[07:06] <tscherler> gconf-editor thx ElVirolo
[07:06] <ElVirolo> tscherler, NP :)
[07:06] <BleckityBleck> I can't play DVDs... i installed libdvdcss2, but xine says theres no CD in the drive, and i can't mount it...
[07:07] <sorush20> how do I fix these character problems http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i2259
[07:07] <apokryphos> [Wiebel] : heh, always check your tab-completion ;-)
[07:07] <slept> BleckityBleck, you might have to create a link for /dev/dvd or change settings in xine
[07:08] <BleckityBleck> slept : it says no plugin enabled, is that something that needs to be configure in xine?
[07:08] <slept> no
[07:08] <ElVirolo> ompaul, have you got any ideas ? ianyway, i thank you very much for your help :)
[07:09] <BleckityBleck> slept: and ive changed the source correctly... and it says no cd in the source drive (which is /dev/dvdrw)
[07:09] <tucats> is there a package for dosbox because i downloaded the source and I am having trouble compiling it
[07:10] <slept> !search
[07:10] <ubotu> methinks search is System>Administration>Synaptic, has a search function. Command line are apt-cache search "packagename", or aptitude search "packagename"
[07:10] <Sphere_fin> I just finished torrenting the DVD live-cd .iso.  I burned it to a DVD like a regular image using Nero's "burn image to disk" option.  When I leve the DVD in my drive and set "IDE Cd-ROM device" as my only boot method in BIOS it just goes on to say "boot failure".  My DVD drive is a writer, and a slave. In BIOS it is recognied as "IDE CD device" on channel "1". Any suggestions?
[07:10] <pc22> how do i share my printer? i want to share it with windows
[07:10] <slept> BleckityBleck, maybe you have to dpkg-reconfigure xine
[07:10] <tucats> no package in the ubuntu repositories
[07:10] <tritium> pc22, with samba
[07:10] <tritium> or cups
[07:11] <ElVirolo> $*********************************mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[07:11] <tritium> Sphere_fin, did you check the md5sum prior to burning the image?
[07:11] <ElVirolo> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[07:11] <ElVirolo> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[07:11] <ElVirolo> so sorry
[07:11] <ompaul> ElVirolo, try a reboot and bring up a console and type >> ifup ra0 << and if that does not work I am at a loss if it does we can turn it into a script that goes in the boot up
[07:11] <Sphere_fin> no
[07:11] <pc22> im new: how exactly can i do it. my win98 box cant see any printer
[07:11] <jjazz_> It seems like Ubuntu overwrites /etc/hosts at certain times (bootup and some other time).  What's the Ubuntu way to get a static ip (as opposed to the Debian way, which obviously isn't working)?
[07:12] <tucats> pc22 id say that is a problem with win98
[07:12] <ElVirolo> ompaul, yeah i tried that
[07:12] <Sphere_fin> how do I check it in windows?
[07:12] <ompaul> ElVirolo,  and does it
[07:12] <ElVirolo> ompaul, i think making a script would be the best solution
[07:12] <tritium> pc22, easiest way is to "sudo apt-get install samba"
[07:12] <pc22> thats
[07:12] <ElVirolo> ompaul, it does work
[07:12] <BleckityBleck> slept : nope, didn't work... maybe im just destined to not have DVD playback :/
[07:12] <pc22> samba is a server right?
[07:12] <tritium> Sphere_fin, if you google for md5sum.exe, you should fine a program you can download
[07:13] <erichb> hello, I'm back and now I have a v4l question.
[07:13] <tritium> pc22, there are both server and client packages
[07:13] <ompaul> ElVirolo, good okay let me rip a nice sample one and give it back to you :) I can't remember how the numbers get allotted hi to low or low to higg
[07:13] <jjazz_> pc22, yep.  Although when I think of Samba, I also think of the clients (smbclient, mntsmb)
[07:13] <slept> BleckityBleck, are you sure about your /dev/... , that it exists ?
[07:14] <ElVirolo> ompaul, ok great thanks :)
[07:14] <BleckityBleck> well, when i put in a regular cd which mounts fine, its mounted from /dev/hda1... which doesn't work
[07:14] <ElVirolo> ompaul, but why doesn't ubuntu do that automatically ?
[07:14] <tritium> BleckityBleck, have you installed the necessary packages for dvd playback?
[07:14] <BleckityBleck> slept : and i know /dev/dvdrw worked before
[07:14] <BleckityBleck> tritium : yes
[07:14] <Sphere_fin> thanks, and should I just burn the iso like any other iso? do i hav to make it bootable?
[07:14] <BleckityBleck> tritium : unless theres something else than libdvdcss2
[07:14] <tritium> BleckityBleck, which?
[07:15] <tritium> Yes, that's what you need, from hoary-extras
[07:15] <tritium> What seems to be the problem, BleckityBleck
[07:15] <tritium> ?
[07:15] <BleckityBleck> when i try to mount the DVD though, it doesn't moutn either...
[07:15] <BleckityBleck> it says i need tos pecify a filesystem
[07:15] <pc22> tritium, what do i do with it? how can my win pc see my printer?
[07:16] <tritium> did you try udf, BleckityBleck ?
[07:16] <setite-SFD> libdvdcss2.. or on 64bit you need to run the installcss.sh or somethign like that included with libdvdread3
[07:16] <BleckityBleck> and cdfs didn't work, never had a problem like this =( always auto-mounted... and in xine, when i hit DVD, it says "no plugin to handle DVD:/"
[07:16] <BleckityBleck> no 64bit
[07:16] <BleckityBleck> udf?
[07:16] <tritium> ubotu, tell pc22 about samba
[07:16] <tritium> BleckityBleck, dvd file format
[07:16] <BleckityBleck> udftools package?
[07:17] <flodine> ~/part
[07:17] <ompaul> ElVirolo, do you have a /etc/init.d/ifupdown ?
[07:17] <silverton> !tell pc22 about samba
[07:17] <tritium> no, when you try to mount, use the udf filesystem, BleckityBleck
[07:17] <BleckityBleck> ahhh
[07:17] <neilc> it seems there is no valgrind package for 5.10
[07:17] <tritium> I did, silverton
[07:17] <neilc> am i missing something, or is there not one? (neither in main or in universe)
[07:17] <silverton> ahh, works your way too eh?  didn't know ;P
[07:17] <ElVirolo> ompaul, yes
[07:18] <tritium> silverton, I mean that I had ubotu tell pc22 about samba
[07:18] <tucats> whats alien for?
[07:18] <silverton> tritium, yeah, I didn't know it worked the way you typed it
[07:18] <tritium> converting .rpm to .deb, tucats
[07:18] <silverton> neilc, I see it
[07:18] <tritium> :)
[07:18] <pc22> thanks for the support
[07:18] <tucats> how do you install .deb packages?
[07:18] <BleckityBleck> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock...
[07:18] <tucats> manually
[07:18] <Will^Draven> how do i end my x session and get to a console?
[07:18] <tritium> !info valgrind
[07:18] <ubotu> valgrind: (A memory debugger for x86-linux), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:2.2.0-4 (hoary), Packaged size: 1782 kB, Installed size: 5084 kB
[07:19] <tucats> !info alien
[07:19] <BleckityBleck> is there a way to check the mount with a regular cd, that doesn't come up with /dev/hda1... (thats what mount reports when a regular cd is in there)
[07:19] <ubotu> alien: (install non-native packages with dpkg), section admin, is optional. Version: 8.50 (hoary), Packaged size: 112 kB, Installed size: 288 kB
[07:19] <tritium> BleckityBleck, a data CD, yes.  They're usually iso9660
[07:19] <slept> BleckityBleck, change the device maybe the link for dvdrw disapeard
[07:19] <silverton> neilc, I'm running breezy, and it's in the development section
[07:20] <BleckityBleck> tritium : not the filesystem, the /dev point... when i check mount with a data cd in, it says its mounted from /dev/hda1...
[07:20] <LeeColleton> What are the dpkg selections for Breezy?  My system has too much cruft upon it.
[07:20] <darkheart> tucats dpkg -i <package>
[07:20] <tucats> is debian woody an older vesion of debian
[07:20] <tritium> neilc, have you done a "sudo apt-get update"?  You can't see any packages until apt knows what's out there...
[07:20] <jjazz_> tucats, yes
[07:20] <tritium> yes, tucats
[07:20] <BleckityBleck> i just assume its /dev/dvdrw because... thats what it was last time i installed ubuntu... and i have a dvdrw
[07:20] <tucats> how old?
[07:21] <pc22> ubuntu is cool with dependencies wow
[07:21] <silverton> tucats, like, 7 years
[07:21] <jjazz_> tucats, Um... very
[07:21] <silverton> especially with the way debian does point releases >.<
[07:21] <tucats> silverton, so an old woody package will work with ubuntu? hopefully?
[07:21] <tritium> pc22, that's the beauty of debian-based distros ;)
[07:21] <neilc> tritium: well, i can see a ton of packages, just not valgrind :)
[07:21] <slept> BleckityBleck, ls  -l /dev/ |grep dvd
[07:21] <Will^Draven> is there a way to end my x session and get to a console?
[07:21] <tritium> tucats, you should not mix debian and ubuntu packages
[07:21] <silverton> tucats, um..  maybe?  But why not use an updated one?
[07:21] <tritium> Will^Draven, if you're in a pinch, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[07:21] <dell500> anyone know of a free pic host??
[07:22] <BleckityBleck> dvd -> /dev/hda dvdrw -> /dev/hda
[07:22] <neilc> % dpkg -p valgrind
[07:22] <jjazz_> tucats, in general, I think that's a bad assumption, and I wouldn't just install it
[07:22] <neilc> Package `valgrind' is not available.
[07:22] <tucats> silverton, there is no package that is updated, the latest is only source and I dont know how to get it to compile
[07:22] <silverton> tritium, last I checked, that just restarts the X server
[07:22] <regeya> what is valgrind...hm.
[07:22] <tritium> silverton, yes, that's why I said "in a pinch"
[07:22] <silverton> regeya, memory debugger
[07:22] <silverton> tritium, he wants to go to console though
[07:22] <dell500> how easy is it to make a server to just host stuff?? with high security
[07:22] <tucats> silverton, ./configure creates an error so i cant make it
[07:22] <BleckityBleck> still can't mount it though, udf doesn't work as the filetype... does it matter that this is a retail DVD
[07:23] <ompaul> ElVirolo, do this sudo nano /etc/rc5.d/S99netmenow
[07:23] <tritium> tucats, which package are you building?
[07:23] <jjazz_> dell500, Um.... get a Debian stable release and keep up with security upgrades
[07:23] <darkheart> dell500 Security is one of those things that can be as hard as you want to make it.
[07:23] <tucats> tritium, dosbox, this is what i am looking at http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/download.php?main=1
[07:23] <silverton> my security is my router >.<  rofl
[07:23] <ElVirolo> ompaul, yup
[07:23] <tritium> tucats, 0.63 in breezy
[07:23] <dell500> k, well i just want to make a server to host some pics so i don't have to get an account with anyone
[07:24] <darkheart> dell500 I doubt you need 'high security' for something like that.
[07:24] <tucats> tritium, ther are a couple rpm packages avail and the source
[07:24] <dell500> well ya, i know
[07:24] <ompaul> ElVirolo, then enter the following text from between the arrows  >>>>ifup ra0<<<<<<<<< then CTRL+O and CTRL+X and that will write the file
[07:24] <tucats> tritium, version 0.63 is in breazy?
[07:24] <dell500> but enough security i guess
[07:24] <tritium> Will^Draven, normally, you switch to virtual consoles with Ctrl-Alt-F#, where # is the virtual console number
[07:24] <tritium> tucats, yes
[07:24] <slept> dell500, you collect porn ?
[07:24] <jjazz_> dell500, Just don't run any services except what you need to serve the pics
[07:24] <Will^Draven> gah, that just logged me out and brought me back to the gnome login
[07:24] <Will^Draven> i know how to switch to a virtual console, but i want x to not be running
[07:24] <tucats> tritium what are the repositores for those packages?
[07:24] <silverton> Will^Draven, sudo killall gdm
[07:25] <tritium> Will^Draven, then when you switch to the console, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:25] <jjazz_> Will^Draven, /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:25] <Will^Draven> thanks
[07:25] <silverton> or...  my way :P
[07:25] <ElVirolo> ompaul, ok let me reboot
[07:25] <ElVirolo> l
[07:25] <ompaul> ElVirolo, that is a little ugly but
[07:25] <jjazz_> silverton, will gdm go down nice if you do that?
[07:25] <ompaul> ElVirolo, lets tidy it up a little first
[07:25] <ompaul> okay lets not :)
[07:25] <tritium> jjazz_, no
[07:26] <MrFaber> Where can I set hdparm commands so set they run on every startup?
[07:26] <tucats> tritium, where is it, its not in synaptic with a search
[07:26] <jjazz_> tritium, Is there a way to use kill to tell a program to go down nice?
[07:26] <IcemanV9> MrFaber: /etc/hdparm.conf
[07:26] <MrFaber> thanks
[07:26] <pc22> tritium, can i pm u for sec. will just show something
[07:26] <tritium> tucats, are you running breezy?
[07:27] <tucats> tritium 5.1 is breezy right thats what i have the preview
[07:27] <tritium> jjazz_, yes, take a look at the manpage
[07:27] <tritium> tucats, 5.10
[07:27] <dell500> jjazz_, ok, what stuff might i need for a low end server like that
[07:27] <dell500> slept, no, it's for LJ and some other stuff, just pics i take with my digi
[07:28] <tritium> jjazz_, but in general, you should use the initscripts to stop them
[07:28] <annex> I have installed Ubuntu 5.04 on a partition to test it before switching.  So far I love it except Xorg performance seems rather poor.  Currently using Xfree86 on gentoo resizing of windows, scrolling in firefox etc. is much smoother than using Xorg on ubuntu. Using 'top', I've noticed Xorg uses about 20-30% more of my cpu than Xfree86 does when simply scrolling the same website in firefox, or resizing a gaim chat window.  I have a dual monitor s
[07:28] <tucats> tritium, yes that is what i am running
[07:28] <slept> dell500, just a stupid joke
[07:28] <jjazz_> tritium, I've looked at the man page, and the piece of info I'm missing is that I don't know which signal tells a program to go down nice
[07:28] <tritium> tucats, what does apt-cache policy dosbox tell you?
[07:28] <darkheart> annex What video card?
[07:28] <jjazz_> dell500, How do you want to serve the pics?  In a web page?  Or over FTP?
[07:29] <dell500> slept, i know :), but i might as well let you know since you were curious
[07:29] <tucats> tritium, hang on one, i am updateing all the repositoreis
[07:29] <dell500> jjazz_, on a webpage, for my livejournal and facebook stuff
[07:29] <tritium> tucats, good plan
[07:29] <dell500> i just don't want to get an account with some stupid site that gives me adds like a mofo
[07:29] <annex> annex: am I using? Nvidia Geforce 2 GTS and ATI Rage II+.  is slowed?  both of them but the ATI card is a bit worse
[07:30] <jjazz_> dell500, You'll want to have a web server and maybe ssh so you can get into the box and config things remotely, but aside from that, nothing different from a base install.
[07:30] <darkheart> annex You need to install the correct drivers.
[07:30] <Will^Draven> ok, that worked, but what i was trying to do after that didnt >.<
[07:30] <darkheart> !tell annex about ati
[07:30] <annex> darkheart: as far as I can tell they are correct
[07:30] <tucats> tritium, i didnt have community maintaind packages so it must be in there
[07:30] <tucats> i found it
[07:30] <darkheart> annex What drivers are they using?
[07:30] <Will^Draven> i think im just going to wipe the drive and install hoary
[07:30] <tritium> tucats, it's in universe
[07:31] <tritium> Will^Draven, what are you trying to do?
[07:31] <dell500> jjazz_, is there a certain app or something for the server stuff??
[07:31] <tritium> reinstalling is generally not required
[07:31] <tucats> tritium, right i added those packages to my repository list
[07:31] <tritium> tucats, okay, good
[07:31] <LeeColleton> dpkg selections?  anyone?  Buller?
[07:31] <annex> darkheart: nvidia is using the binary 'nvidia' driver, and the ati card is using 'ati' when I set it in xorg.conf
[07:31] <dell500> jjazz_, is there a way to host just a folder for a site and use that as a link for the pics?
[07:31] <darkheart> annex That ATI card of yours is pretty old?
[07:32] <annex> annex: oh yeah
[07:32] <tritium> LeeColleton, what does your question mean?
[07:32] <IcemanV9> Will^Draven: reinstalling is the option for win platform only ;)
[07:32] <jjazz_> dell500, Most people use apache, but if you're just serving some pics, you probably don't need something as complex as apache.  Maybe thttpd or bozohttpd would do it.
[07:32] <neilc> tritium: ah, perhaps there is no amd64 package yet
[07:32] <jjazz_> dell500, I don't understand your last question.  What do you mean use that as a link for the pics?
[07:32] <annex> darkheart: did the job in Xfree though\
[07:32] <Will^Draven> get my sound to work, i have a riptide card, the linuxant drivers dont work on a 2.6 kernel, OSS wont install, the rc of ALSA that has riptide drivers just hates me, lol
[07:32] <tritium> neilc, I'm sorry, remind me what you're looking for again please?
[07:33] <darkheart> annex Hmm..Sorry then, I'm not sure what it could be.
[07:33] <neilc> tritium: a valgrind package for 5.10
[07:33] <neilc> tritium: but yeah, it must be amd64, valgrind was just ported to amd64 recently
[07:34] <tritium> neilc, that must be it, because I see that it's available in breezy's main repo
[07:34] <neilc> tritium: thanks, i'll just use sourcwe
[07:34] <ksmurf> hello all.... I have some wireless questions.  I just bought a TravelMate 2310 laptop and wiped XP from it before I started.  I couldn't get my wireless up at first so I tried ndiswarpper.  It seemed to work with no problems BUT I noticed on reboot that MadWifi had taken over (Breezy Rocks!!!).  I configured my WEP but I have to deactivate and reactivate upon reboot.  Is this normal? Is there someway I can fix it?
[07:34] <Diffindo> What whould I need to burn an ISO to CD in Ubuntu Hoary?
[07:34] <tritium> neilc, all right :)
[07:34] <LeeColleton> tritium: what are the standard dpkg selections for Breezy?  I can't find them listed anywhere.  I'm trying to use dpkg --set-selections to slim down my system.
[07:34] <dell500> jjazz_, say i have a picture blah.jpg, i'd like to just be able to stick the link into my journal (ie:  ip/blah.jpg)
[07:34] <tritium> Diffindo, nautilus can do that
[07:34] <Will^Draven> sooo, any bright ideas other than say screw breezy and install hoary?
[07:34] <annex> darkheart: thanks anyhow, any way to find out what the exact driver xorg is using when I tell it to use 'ati' ?
[07:35] <Diffindo> Thanks
[07:35] <tscherler> does somebody knows the evolution chanell
[07:35] <Diffindo> Still getting used to this...
[07:35] <kuru> hello people
[07:35] <jjazz_> dell500, is the computer on a static ip?
[07:35] <tritium> Will^Draven, you've already tried breezy?  Downgrading to hoary won't make much sense
[07:35] <kuru> I got this really weird problem with an HP Color LJ 3550N printer
[07:35] <Will^Draven> im on breezy now
[07:35] <Diffindo> I downloading *cough* something else, I may just get a dual-boot going someday
[07:36] <Will^Draven> the linuxant drivers for my card have a .deb build for hoary
[07:36] <kuru> I have Debian etch and it works nicely with it.. but on Ubuntu Hoary, it seems to keep coming up with "Chosen personality is not available" on the printer
[07:36] <ksmurf> Diff It works great as a triple boot
[07:36] <talky> is there any utitily in ubuntu to search for files
[07:36] <Diffindo> I want to get a few Intel 370Pin systems and make a linux cluster
[07:36] <kuru> I even tried to copy the PPD off of the Debian box into the Ubuntu one, but still came up with the same problem
[07:36] <kuru> any ideas?
[07:36] <tritium> Will^Draven, what's the package name?
[07:36] <Diffindo> How well does Ubuntu work as a file server?
[07:36] <ksmurf> talky yes locate
[07:36] <talky> oh thnx ksmurf
[07:37] <ksmurf> Diffindo great
[07:37] <slept> talky,  try apropos search
[07:37] <Diffindo> Awesome
[07:37] <Diffindo> !servers
[07:37] <ubotu> Diffindo: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:37] <Diffindo> ...
[07:37] <jjazz_> Diffindo, I'm using one as a file server right now.
[07:37] <ksmurf> talky in the Gui in the places menu there is a "search for files" button
[07:37] <Diffindo> Is it easy to set up?
[07:37] <jjazz_> Diffindo, I have no complaints, but I never stress the box
[07:37] <Diffindo> Well...
[07:38] <dell500> jjazz_, i don't think so...
[07:38] <talky> thnx ksmurf :)
[07:38] <dell500> i'm pretty sure it isn't
[07:38] <ksmurf>  I configured my WEP but I have to deactivate and reactivate upon reboot.  Is this normal? Is there someway I can fix it?
[07:38] <Diffindo> I wanted to make a separate box for my music, games, etc
[07:38] <jjazz_> Diffindo, no easier or harder than debian
[07:38] <talky> one more is there some time out settng for modem connections?
[07:38] <tritium> ksmurf, do you have ipw2200?
[07:38] <jjazz_> Diffindo, I had to set it up w/ SAMBA, and it was kind of a pain
[07:38] <Diffindo> And then get a thrid one as a web server
[07:38] <jjazz_> Diffindo, but now that it's up, the box shares my printer and files with a bunch of linux and win pcs
[07:38] <ksmurf> tritium no .  SIS chip Ath.....
[07:38] <Diffindo> But the web-server may not happen too soon...
[07:39] <tritium> ksmurf, oh, okay.  I'm aware of some issues with ipw2200
[07:39] <Diffindo> Even with DSL, my uplink isn't great
[07:39] <jjazz_> Diffindo, It depends on how you want to access this stuff.  You could use throw the files on, run sshd and use fish to get your files.
[07:39] <Diffindo> Yeah
[07:39] <solidgroove> i have this problem
[07:39] <solidgroove> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:39] <solidgroove>   gnomebaker: Depends: mpg321 but it is not going to be installed
[07:39] <solidgroove>               Depends: sox but it is not going to be installed
[07:39] <solidgroove>               Depends: vorbis-tools but it is not installable
[07:39] <Seveas> solidgroove, don't ever paste in here
[07:39] <tritium> please don't paste solidgroove
[07:39] <Seveas> EVER
[07:40] <ksmurf> I'm Loving that the fact that Madwifi started working But The activating and deactivating is annoying.
[07:40] <solidgroove> sorry
[07:40] <jjazz_> dell500, without a static ip, you can't do http://ip/pictures because ip is changing every once in a while.
[07:40] <Diffindo> solidgroove
[07:40] <Seveas> solidgroove, correct your sources.list. gnomebaker is installable on hoary and breezy
[07:40] <Will^Draven> tritium: http://www.linuxant.com/drivers/hcf/full/downloads.php the hcf driver has a ubuntu 5.04 package on this page
[07:40] <Diffindo> Try 'sudo aptitude'
[07:40] <Diffindo> oh
[07:40] <Diffindo> nvm
[07:40] <MrFaber> Anyone has problems with powernowd?
[07:41] <ksmurf> MrFaber?... Pm ME
[07:41] <LeeColleton> MrFaber: it doesn't work with PIII Celeron Processors
[07:41] <tritium> Will^Draven, I see.
[07:41] <FireZilla> hi all
[07:41] <Diffindo> Anyone have any problems with the Biostar mainboards? Namely the P4VMA line?
[07:41] <MrFaber> LeeColleton, ksmurf, thanks
[07:42] <kuru> I guess no one has any ideas for me :(
[07:42] <windex> kuru, what was your question?
[07:43] <tucats> how do i get a link to my home folder on my desktop?
[07:43] <Diffindo> drag and drop is the easiest way
[07:43] <solidgroove> i have in aptitude 3 unsatisfied and 1 unavaliable when installing gnomebaker
[07:43] <pc22> mainly: whats the difference breezy and hoary?
[07:43] <MrFaber> LeeColleton, I have no Celeron, but a Pentium M with 1600/1200 MHZ
[07:43] <Seveas> pc22 lots...
[07:43] <tucats> diffindo cant i tried that
[07:43] <windex> kuru, ah ha. printer problems. sorry, can't help. i can't even get my CUPS installation to stop sending things to my printer that cause my printer's postscript rendering engine to hardlock.
[07:43] <pc22> looks?
[07:43] <Seveas> tucats, ln -s ~ ~/Desktop
[07:43] <MrFaber> LeeColleton, everytime it changes the cpu freq down my pc hangs for two seconds
[07:44] <Seveas> pc22, not too much
[07:44] <tritium> kuru, I see a ppd for the 3550 in /usr/share/ppd/HP
[07:44] <tucats> seveas yes, thank you
[07:44] <Diffindo> /me is away ~{Shower}~ at $time
[07:44] <Diffindo> ugh
[07:44] <Diffindo> I miss mIRC
[07:44] <LeeColleton> MrFaber: random idea, try fiddling with your BIOS settings.  Sometimes the BIOS and the kernel will fight for control of setting processor speed
[07:45] <Diffindo> Funny thing
[07:45] <LeeColleton> MrFaber: turn of any BIOS settings that automatically change CPU speed
[07:45] <FireZilla> can anyone tell me where I can find the "htdocs" folder?
[07:45] <MrFaber> LeeColleton, I don't think so since the ondemand governor of the kernel works fine in other distro
[07:45] <FireZilla> please?
[07:45] <MrFaber> LeeColleton, I have no bios setting
[07:45] <jjazz_> FireZilla, locate htdocs?
[07:45] <kuru> tritium: hoary?
[07:45] <Seveas> FireCat, slocate htdocs
[07:45] <LeeColleton> MrFaber: just an idea, I don't know
[07:45] <Seveas> or be more specific
[07:45] <MrFaber> LeeColleton, and I don't understand why I can't use ondemand
[07:45] <Diffindo> I have a 478 Celeron D and under both Ubuntu and Windoze, I have no OCing capabilities what so ever
[07:45] <MrFaber> LeeColleton, thanks
[07:46] <MrFaber> LeeColleton, I can activate performance governor instead of userspace but not ondemand
[07:46] <tritium> kuru, I'm on breezy now.  try "dpkg -L foomatic-filters-ppds | grep 3550"
[07:46] <Diffindo> It's not a great nusaince, just something that bugs me sometimes...
[07:46] <FireZilla> jjazz, Seveas: that doesn't do anything :s
[07:46] <MrFaber> while ondemand is loaded
[07:46] <ksmurf> tritium.... where is the network startup script?
[07:46] <jjazz_> FireZilla, nothing?
[07:46] <tritium> ksmurf, /etc/init.d/networking, you mean?
[07:47] <Seveas> FireZilla, then be more specific
[07:47] <Seveas> you told NOTHING about your problem...
[07:47] <jjazz_> FireZilla, you typed locate htdocs into the command line an nothing happend?  Did you hit enter?
[07:47] <ksmurf> Thanks
[07:47] <tritium> ksmurf, what are you trying to do?
[07:48] <FireZilla> jjazz, Seveas: sorry. yeah - I did. nothing happened. I just installed Apache, PHP and MySQL. also phpmyadmin. I want to know where htdocs is so that I can install wordpress for offline checking
[07:48] <test34> how can we enable remote desktop from command prompt/shell ?
[07:48] <Seveas> FireZilla, in that case: nowhere
[07:48] <Seveas> it's /var/www
[07:48] <ksmurf> tritium .... I'm trying to get my wireless working on bootup.
[07:48] <Seveas> nothing with htdocs
[07:48] <oolon> test34, krdc
[07:48] <test34> oolon, krdc ?
[07:49] <durt> ksmurf: using ndiwrapper?
[07:49] <oolon> what happens when you put that in a shell
[07:49] <Seveas> oolon, *command line*
[07:49] <Seveas> so no k* things
[07:49] <oolon> oh so like ssh?
[07:49] <Hoxzer> can I somehow return default desktop settings?
[07:50] <FireZilla> Seveas: oh :(  But shouldn't there be an "htdocs" directory if I've installed Apache?
[07:50] <jjazz_> FireZilla, no
[07:50] <tritium> Take care, everyone...
[07:50] <test34> oolon,  yes
[07:50] <test34> I just dont want to leave remote desktop running all the time
[07:50] <ksmurf> durt.... No.  Madwifi..... I have to manually deactivate and activate my wifi networking.
[07:50] <test34> I want to start it remotely
[07:50] <Seveas> it's /var/www <--------------
[07:50] <[Wiebel] > anyone here running ubuntu with a intel 855 video controlling with drm/dri working?
[07:51] <FireZilla> Seveas: hey thanks. sorry to bother you.
[07:51] <FireZilla> jjazz, Seveas: Thank you very much guys!
[07:51] <durt> ksmurf: you could put a script in /etc/init.d
[07:51] <onkarshinde> I am having problem installing dvdrip. It seems that transcode package depends certain version of libgcc1 which is not available in repositories.
[07:52] <oolon> not sure how ubuntu will like it though http://packages.debian.org/testing/libs/libgcc1
[07:52] <oolon> onkarshinde, ^^^
[07:52] <ksmurf> durt that's what I'm thinking
[07:53] <MrFaber> Anyone knows how do uninstall powernowd and use ondemand governor instead?
[07:53] <onkarshinde> !info transcode
[07:54] <onkarshinde> !info dvdrip
[07:54] <ubotu> dvdrip: (perl front end for transcode), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 1:0.52.2-0.0 (hoary), Packaged size: 352 kB, Installed size: 1640 kB
[07:54] <solidgroove> oh i missed a line in the apt sources
[07:54] <lfelipe> Hello, I have just installed ubuntu for the first time, and I'm having a little problem with the initial update.
[07:54] <lfelipe> It stopped on Setting up ubuntu-desktop (0.73) ...
[07:54] <lfelipe> and it's been like that for quite some time
[07:55] <ksmurf>  I'm using the Madwifi with breezy.  I have no issues with it except having to activate my connection manually.  Any solution?
[07:55] <onkarshinde> It is funny. Uboutu knows dvdrip is perl frontend, but not what transcode is.
[07:55] <lfelipe> I installed breezy preview
[07:55] <ksmurf> !madwifi
[07:55] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, ksmurf
[07:55] <ksmurf> !network
[07:55] <ubotu> ksmurf: I don't know
[07:55] <ksmurf> !networking
[07:55] <ubotu> ksmurf: I give up, what is it?
[07:56] <ksmurf> !wireless
[07:56] <ubotu> methinks wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[07:56] <MrFaber> The problem with powernowd is known
[07:57] <lfelipe> anyone can help me ??
[07:57] <lokadin> say can anyone tell me how i can install eclipse onto ubuntu
[07:57] <lokadin> ?
[07:58] <ompaul> lfelipe, were you using synaptic?
[07:58] <MrFaber> If I try to remove powernowd Synaptic wants to remove ubuntu-desktop too
[07:58] <MrFaber> is it ok?
[07:58] <onkarshinde> !eclipse
[07:58] <ubotu> to install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE
[07:58] <lfelipe> ompaul : yep
[07:58] <onkarshinde> lokadin: ^^^
[07:58] <lokadin> ubotu, thanks
[07:58] <ubotu> lokadin: no problem
[07:58] <Hikaru79> Breezy rules :D
[07:58] <ompaul> lfelipe, you can stop and start it again, are you using hoary or breezy?
[07:59] <durt> ksmurf: put the script in /etc/init.d/whatever.sh; and then run  "sudo update-rc.d whatever.sh defaults"
[07:59] <lfelipe> ompaul : breezy preview
[07:59] <ompaul> lfelipe, there are a lot of updates for that
[07:59] <erichb> I need a little help with a USB problem I'm having.
[07:59] <darkheart> lfelipe Sometimes when you upgrade packages it asks you questions in the little terminal window as well. Click that arrow to expand the window.
[07:59] <onkarshinde> MrFaber: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package that is dependent on all the packages that are installed by default
[08:00] <lfelipe> darkheart : it did ask me something. And after it did, it continued installing, but the status bar simply stopped on one package
[08:00] <lfelipe> I closed the window, but synaptic is still running. Is it ok to just kill it ?
[08:01] <onkarshinde> MrFaber: ubuntu-desktop may help you when you upgrade Ubuntu next. I will install some packages that are to be installed by default in new version but not present in current version.
[08:01] <darkheart> lfelipe Okay, well, do what ompaul suggests then. It might have just stalled on a download or something.
[08:01] <ompaul> lfelipe, have you *dsl/broadband?
[08:02] <neurondev> I'd like to get the kernel sources for Ubuntu, however the machine that needs it is not networked... how/where can I download it so I can transfer the files to the PC that need sit
[08:02] <neurondev> *needs it
[08:02] <Q-FUNK> anybody who's using Ubuntu on Mac/PPC and who has ALSA problems, please contribute data to this wiki page: http://wiki.debian.net/?PowerpcSoundcards
[08:02] <neurondev> ?
[08:02] <lfelipe> ompaul, : yes
[08:02] <onkarshinde> neurondev: which version of ubuntu?
[08:02] <neurondev> Hoary
[08:03] <neurondev> its actually Kubuntu
[08:03] <neurondev> but sources should be same
[08:03] <ompaul> lfelipe, that is good,
[08:04] <onkarshinde> neurondev: You should be able to find kernel source on CD
[08:04] <erichb> as anyone ever dealt with this message before? "usb 1-1: khubd timed out on ep0in
[08:04] <erichb> "
[08:04] <lfelipe> just a newbie question, what's the difference between universe and multiverse ?
[08:04] <neurondev> ok, and how would I install them do I need to go through Synaptic?
[08:04] <MrFaber> onkarshinde, thanks
[08:04] <MrFaber> onkarshinde, how can I add powernowd init script like default
[08:05] <erichb> I'm googling now and there are people with that problem but I can't find any solutions.
[08:05] <neurondev> onkarshinde: ok, and how would I install them do I need to go through Synaptic?
[08:05] <kent> lfelipe, I think multiverse is like universe, but it is for non-free things.
[08:05] <MrFaber> There was a post in forum how to correct powernowd initializations script
[08:05] <MrFaber> now it should work but I have removed the init scripts of powernowd
[08:05] <onkarshinde> neurondev: install it using 'sudo dpkg --install filename.deb' command
[08:06] <onkarshinde> MrFaber: I have no idea
[08:06] <neurondev> onkarshinde: thanks
[08:06] <MrFaber> :)
[08:06] <MrFaber> I remove it with  sudo update-rc.d -f powernowd remove
[08:07] <onkarshinde> lfelipe: multiverse contains some packages which may not be legal in some countries, AFAIK
[08:07] <MrFaber> what is this update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/powernowd exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force)
[08:07] <MrFaber> Thats why I use -f
[08:07] <lfelipe> thanks
[08:07] <MrFaber> sudo update-rc.d powernowd add doesn't work without additional information
[08:07] <neurondev> onkarshinde: and where would it be on the CD?
[08:08] <neurondev> onkarshinde: is it in 'pool'?
[08:08] <onkarshinde> neurondev: yes in pool/l/linux i suppose
[08:09] <annex> I have installed Ubuntu 5.04 on a partition to test it before switching.  So far I love it except Xorg performance seems rather poor.  Currently using Xfree86 on gentoo resizing of windows, scrolling in firefox etc. is much smoother than using Xorg on ubuntu. Using 'top', I've noticed Xorg uses about 20-30% more of my cpu than Xfree86 does when simply scrolling the same website in firefox, or resizing a gaim chat window.  I have a dual monitor s
[08:09] <neurondev> onkarshinde: yup pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10
[08:10] <onkarshinde> neurondev: be sure to install sources for your processor i.e k7, i386, i686
[08:10] <drapelyk> Can anyone help me move files to my server?
[08:11] <hmrocha> hello
[08:11] <onkarshinde> drapelyk: what files and what server?
[08:11] <jjazz_> drapelyk, Dude, I don't even know you.  I'm not helping you move.
[08:11] <hmrocha> a friend of mine as a laptop with a usb wireless connection
[08:11] <drapelyk> it's a .gz file and an ubuntu server
[08:11] <windex> hmrocha, what wireless adapter?
[08:11] <hmrocha> i used the ubuntu hoary live cd to show him linux
[08:12] <drapelyk> i'm moving from my desktop running ubuntu to an ubuntu server on lan
[08:12] <hmrocha> i'd like to configure the wireless connection in ubuntu, just to show him what it's like
[08:12] <drapelyk> jjazz_ ... lol
[08:12] <jjazz_> drapelyk, sftp should do it
[08:12] <windex> hmrocha, if the livecd didn't find it, it gets hard to configure it w/o an install. what kind of wireless adapter is it?
[08:12] <drapelyk> jjazz_ I don't know how to use that
[08:12] <drapelyk> does it need to be installed on the server?
[08:13] <jjazz_> drapelyk, you need ssh on the server
[08:13] <drapelyk> sudo apt-get install sftp  ?
[08:13] <drapelyk> I've got OpenSSH
[08:13] <jjazz_> drapelyk, apt-get install ssh
[08:13] <hmrocha> windex: ez connect 54mbps wireless 2.0 adapter
[08:13] <jjazz_> drapelyk, is sshd running on the server?
[08:13] <drapelyk> yup
[08:13] <windex> hmrocha, got a model?
[08:13] <jjazz_> drapelyk, then sftp <server address>
[08:13] <hmrocha> windex: yes
[08:14] <jjazz_> drapelyk, navigate to the directory, and do 'put <filename>'
[08:14] <jjazz_> drapelyk, (navigate using cd commands)
[08:14] <windex> hmrocha, i mean, what's the exact model #. does it have one on the unit?
[08:14] <drapelyk> haha, that's easy, lol, thanks dude
[08:14] <hmrocha> windex: model: smc2862wg-eu
[08:14] <windex> hmrocha, thanks.
[08:14] <jjazz_> drapelyk, np
[08:14] <Leshrac> hello
[08:15] <apokryphos> Hi =)
[08:15] <neurondev> how can I set the kernel path?
[08:15] <hmrocha> windex: i opened system->administration->networking
[08:15] <neurondev> (Can't 'make', sez KERNELPATH needs to be set.)
[08:15] <drapelyk> jjaz_ does the put <filename> need to be like "put /blah/blah/blah/filename?
[08:15] <hmrocha> windex: only "modem connection", "ethernet connection"
[08:15] <pc22> thanks people for the support
[08:15] <hmrocha> windex: there's no wireless connection
[08:16] <windex> hmrocha, yeah. im not sure that the wifi chipset he has is going to work.
[08:16] <Leshrac> What's the command to change a folder's access rights?
[08:16] <windex> hmrocha, i can't find any notes on driver support for it.
[08:16] <hmrocha> windex: that's really bad
[08:16] <windex> hmrocha, oh, wait.
[08:16] <durt> hrocha, you probably cant use the wireless connection with the live cd then
[08:16] <jjazz_> drapelyk, run sftp from the source dir and then, when in sftp, cd to the destination dir, then just 'put filename'
[08:16] <ugo__> ahh....nickserver is  b#$%#$%
[08:16] <zurn> Leshrac chmod
[08:16] <jjazz_> drapelyk, or: do 'put /path/to/file'
[08:17] <hmrocha> windex: i think i could install ubuntu in his pc and connect the laptop to it with ethernet
[08:17] <Leshrac> thanks zurn, i keep forgetting
[08:17] <drapelyk> jjazz_ k, thanks
[08:17] <zurn> Leshrac np
[08:17] <windex> hmrocha, prisim54 = the driver.
[08:17] <jjazz_> drapelyk, actually, I'm not sure about that path/to/file stuff.  sorry... I'm spacing on it.
[08:17] <windex> hmrocha, open a terminal
[08:17] <tucats> what version of x does breezy ship with?
[08:18] <windex> hmrocha, then try 'sudo modprobe prism54'
[08:18] <tucats> xfree86 43 or x.org 6.8
[08:18] <hmrocha> windex: done
[08:18] <neurondev> (Can't 'make', sez KERNELPATH needs to be set.)
[08:18] <windex> hmrocha, type 'dmesg' in the terminal, at the bottom, does it say anything about finding it?
[08:19] <windex> hmrocha, it will at least say 'loading prism54 driver'.
[08:19] <hmrocha> "loading prism54 driver, version 1.2"
[08:19] <windex> but nothing after that?
[08:19] <hmrocha> but nothing more
[08:19] <onkarshinde> neurondev: set KERNELPATH=pathto kernel
[08:19] <drapelyk> jjazz_ ok it's just saying permission denied
[08:19] <bob2> tucats: packages.ubuntu.com/xserver-xorg
[08:19] <windex> hmrocha, hold. :) reading.
[08:20] <hmrocha> windex: thanks very very much
[08:20] <onkarshinde> tucats: x.org 6.8
[08:20] <drapelyk> jjazz_file permissions on the folder i'm tyring to put it in are drwxr-xr-x
[08:20] <tucats> onkarshinde, thanks
[08:21] <drapelyk> I got, "Couldn't get handle, permission denied"
[08:21] <Leshrac> I have a little problem, I have just installed kubuntu 5.04 in a computer that's too far away to link with an ethernet cable
[08:21] <onkarshinde> Leshrac: So what is problem?
[08:21] <Leshrac> I'm trying to make the wireless network work, but I don't know if it is at all possible
[08:21] <jjazz_> drapelyk, the account you use to log in to the remote box has to have permissoin to write to the directory where you're putting the file
[08:22] <tucats> anyone installed ATI drivers for breezy?
[08:22] <onkarshinde> Leshrac: This for you. You can see if your card is supported !wireless
[08:22] <Leshrac> I am reading the forums and the solutions I have found involve using apt-get, and I can't because it has no net connection
[08:22] <onkarshinde> !wireless
[08:22] <ubotu> from memory, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[08:22] <windex> hmrocha, ok, the driver is hit or miss depending on the revision of the adapter by the manufacturer. the only way i could tell you to get it working would be to figure out the usb device id and modify the driver, which, as it turns out, is an awful, complicated, difficult method. and even if we did all that, there's no promise it would work. i can give you a list of things i know work, though, and since most usb adapters are in the $30-40USD r
[08:22] <windex> ange, $30-40USD is a lot cheaper than your sanity? :)
[08:22] <drapelyk> jjazz_ it says that drapelyk is the owner, and that is the user I have logged in with
[08:22] <windex> oi.
[08:22] <pc22> how do i install windows apps in ubuntu?
[08:22] <jjazz_> drapelyk, what dir are you trying to write to?
[08:23] <drapelyk> /var/www/phpbb
[08:23] <jjazz_> pc22, apt-get install wine, but it's not for the faint of heart
[08:23] <onkarshinde> pc22: depends on what you want to install
[08:23] <pc22> ok
[08:23] <hmrocha> windex: i think i'll install ubuntu on this pc instead
[08:23] <Leshrac> !wireless
[08:23] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[08:23] <hmrocha> windex: and connect the laptop to this computer
[08:24] <bob2> Leshrac: what chipset is the card?
[08:24] <onkarshinde> Leshrac: you can install packages on the computer not connected to net provided you know the exact dependencies
[08:24] <Leshrac> I don't know
[08:24] <windex> hmrocha, yeah. im sorry about that. wifi support in linux is just now getting to the point it's 'decent', imho. and that means a lot of things aren't going to work. it's like how sound cards worked in 1998/1999.. most of the time they didn't. :)
[08:24] <Leshrac> it's a belkin pci
[08:24] <bob2> Leshrac: you need to find that out before you can proceed
[08:24] <skaller> anyone know how to rebuild locales?
[08:24] <bob2> ew, belkin
[08:24] <bob2> skaller: localegen
[08:25] <skaller> not enuf
[08:25] <onkarshinde> bob2: good to see you. I was missing my daytimes chat mates
[08:25] <skaller> get this: /usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[08:25] <hmrocha> windex: this computer is using wireless too, but it's a pci card
[08:25] <Leshrac> bob2: what's the easiest way to find out? looking at the card itself?
[08:25] <windex> hmrocha, know the model?
[08:25] <hmrocha> windex: but i'm using windows here
[08:25] <skaller> already tried localegen
[08:25] <hmrocha> windex: i'll try to search
[08:26] <windex> hmrocha, check in properties on the my computer icon, then find the device manager. it should tell you
[08:26] <thoreauputic> hi ompaul :)
[08:26] <hmrocha> windex: smc2602w 11mbps wireless pci card
[08:26] <bob2> Leshrac: lspci, if it's pci
[08:27] <net_benjo> hi all, I need help with setting up wireless WPA
[08:27] <Leshrac> thank you very much.
[08:27] <gabberman> sound card help anyone?
[08:27] <Leshrac> and now that I know the chipset, what do I do?
[08:27] <skaller> root@rosella:/work/felix/flx # locale-gen
[08:27] <skaller> Generating locales...
[08:27] <skaller>   en_AU.UTF-8... done
[08:27] <skaller> Generation complete.
[08:27] <skaller> root@rosella:/work/felix/flx # locale
[08:27] <skaller> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[08:27] <onkarshinde> gabberman: which soundcard? what is problem?
[08:27] <gabberman> i have ISA sound card...
[08:27] <bob2> skaller: please don't paste in here
[08:27] <gabberman> been inhere bofore
[08:27] <gabberman> i was told to..
[08:27] <windex> hmrocha, driver 'prism2' should work
[08:27] <bob2> skaller: and you'd need to show us "echo $LC_CTYPE"
[08:28] <gabberman> load hedgehog, instead of breezy
[08:28] <bob2> an ISA sound card is not going to be trivial
[08:28] <gabberman> then thetres some code I can put in to load all the ISA sound card droivers.. ?
[08:28] <apokryphos> gabberman: good idea. Breezy hasn't reached stable status yet.
[08:28] <skaller> its empty
[08:28] <bob2> simplest solution is to replace it
[08:28] <net_benjo> can anybody help me with setting up WPA wireless with ipw2200 ??
[08:28] <bob2> skaller: it prints nothing at all?
[08:28] <bob2> net_benjo: your question is missing important details, like what you've tried already
[08:28] <hmrocha> windex: ok, i'll try to run the livecd here
[08:28] <windex> hmrocha, but, the non-prism branded prism support is hit or miss, just like the usb adapter
[08:28] <skaller> prints nothing
[08:28] <gabberman> any ideas?
[08:28] <windex> hmrocha, so try 'modprobe' if it dosen't find it
[08:28] <bob2> net_benjo: I assume you searched and found the WPA howto on the wiki, and the xsupplicant package
[08:29] <bob2> gabberman: how hard would it be to replace it?
[08:29] <windex> hmrocha, and if it dosen't find it, that's pretty much that, sadly.
[08:29] <net_benjo> hmrocha:  sorry..i followed a HOWTO: ipw2200 + wpa from ubuntuforums.org...
[08:29] <skaller> but locale program says this:  LC_CTYPE="en_AU.UTF-8"
[08:29] <windex> hmrocha, rather, 'modprobe prism2'.
[08:29] <gabberman> replace what
[08:29] <gabberman> ?
[08:29] <hmrocha> windex: ok, thanks very much, i'll keep in touch
[08:29] <windex> hmrocha, like before with prism54.
[08:29] <windex> hmrocha, ok. good luck. :)
[08:29] <bob2> gabberman: the card with a PCI one
[08:29] <Leshrac> can someone guide me to a Setting up a wireless network How-To?
[08:29] <onkarshinde> gabberman: he is asking fro replacing the card
[08:29] <gabberman> right now 100%, cos im broke heh.... is ISA cards that bad to install?
[08:30] <jjazz_> Leshrac, there is no good howto for beginners, AFAIK
[08:30] <skaller> the problem arose installing bad C library
[08:30] <skaller> reinstalled good one, but locales stay broken
[08:30] <bob2> linlin: what did lspci say about it?
[08:30] <sorush20> how do I fix these character problems http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/i2259
[08:30] <bob2> skaller: wtf
[08:31] <linlin> Hi, I need to run a KDE application (kftpgrabber) but I use gnome. I'm also low on hard disk space so I dont wnat to install kde fully. What can i apt-get to jsut allow me to run that application with gnome, and not waste space on getting all of kde, which i would never use?
[08:31] <bob2> skaller: where "bad C library" = "the C library from sid"?
[08:31] <bob2> linlin: #kubuntu
[08:31] <linlin> but im using regular ubuntu
[08:31] <skaller> nope, debian-amd64 unstable, which is 2.3.5 i think
[08:31] <linlin> i jsut need to run one kde application
[08:31] <bob2> sorush20: use a font that has that character
[08:32] <onkarshinde> linlin: is that application available in ubuntu repository?
[08:32] <bob2> linlin: yes, but that KDE program is not in Ubuntu, so you need to asdk KDE people what dependencies it has
[08:32] <linlin> no
[08:32] <Cryptid> Please Help!!!!I always get a "Xlib not supported error"when i install some thing how do i fix this error?????????
[08:32] <bob2> linlin: since that is the solution to your problem
[08:32] <bob2> Cryptid: no, that's not what it says
[08:32] <net_benjo> I need help with setting up wireless with WPA...i followed a howto from ubuntuforums but its still not working right?  i don't know what else to try
[08:32] <bob2> Cryptid: show us the actual error, and tell us what you're doing to get it
[08:32] <bob2> net_benjo: you didn't answer either of my questions
[08:32] <onkarshinde> sorush20: is it any Windows specific font?
[08:32] <windex> net_benjo, you're using a 2200BG centrino chip?
[08:33] <Leshrac> Would someone be so kind of outlining the steps I should follow to get wireless working (providing that I am stupid)?
[08:33] <sorush20> onkarshinde: I don't know.. but I don't know what the charecter is.
[08:33] <bob2> Leshrac: you didn't show us the lspci output yet
[08:33] <onkarshinde> sorush20: Please provide me to actual page then I can tell you
[08:33] <net_benjo> windex: yes I am
[08:34] <Leshrac> sorry, how do I get that output?
[08:34] <bob2> net_benjo: did you install xsupplicant yet?
[08:34] <windex> net_benjo, lemme look at the howto real quick.
[08:34] <MrFaber> the /usr/share/powernowd/cpufreq_detect.sh has some bugs
[08:34] <sorush20> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pmc&cmd=search&term=NURSE+CELLS
[08:34] <tritium> lspci, Leshrac
[08:34] <sorush20> onkarshinde: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pmc&cmd=search&term=NURSE+CELLS
[08:34] <windex> bob2, it's wpasupplicant
[08:34] <bob2> Leshrac: run the 'lspci' command and past it's output to #flood
[08:34] <net_benjo> windex:  thanks
[08:34] <bob2> windex: which is a seperate program
[08:34] <Cryptid> bob2, i just installed gdesklet and during the installtion in synaptic terminal box the first few lines are like "Xlib not supported at some/etc/something something directories" what do i do
[08:34] <Leshrac> thanks, I'll be back in a moment
[08:34] <MrFaber> now it works with one change for me
[08:34] <bob2> MrFaber: then file a bug in bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[08:34] <net_benjo> windex:  do you know which how it it is, exactly??
[08:34] <bob2> Cryptid: that is presumably not really what it says, still
[08:34] <MrFaber> bob2, ok, I will check if it isn't posted
[08:35] <bob2> MrFaber: great, thanks
[08:35] <net_benjo> windex: its called ipw2200 + wpa
[08:35] <windex> net_benjo, yeah
[08:35] <MrFaber> bob2, thanks too
[08:35] <net_benjo> windex: ok cool
[08:35] <skaller> btw, does breezy preview support dist upgrade?
[08:35] <bob2> skaller: of course
[08:35] <bob2> skaller: binary X drivers appear broken, tho
[08:35] <bob2> as is suspend-to-disk
[08:36] <skaller> ouch .. cant do much without X :)
[08:36] <MrFaber> On boot while framebuffer is used I got an error that synchronizing with ntp doesn't work. What could be the reason?
[08:36] <MrFaber> NTP-Server ist installed and runs
[08:36] <MrFaber> synchronizing with gnome works
[08:36] <bob2> skaller: you don't need binary drivers to have X working
[08:36] <Cryptid> bob2, wait i will install some thing and then copy and show u the error
[08:36] <bob2> MrFaber: presumably your network is not up
[08:36] <windex> net_benjo, hm.
[08:37] <net_benjo> windex: yes?
[08:37] <MrFaber> dhcp takes too long?
[08:37] <skaller> i don't? ok .. so should i try it? Really need glibc 2.3.5
[08:37] <onkarshinde> sorush20: No idea what character it is.
[08:37] <skaller> and it should fix the locale problem ..
[08:37] <skaller> ?
[08:37] <MrFaber> bob2, there are many powernowd module bugs posted
[08:37] <bob2> MrFaber: could be
[08:37] <bob2> MrFaber: ok
[08:37] <Leshrac> bob2: I gt this from lspci: 0000:00:0c.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless            LAN Controller (rev 03)
[08:37] <MrFaber> bob2, how could I change this
[08:37] <bob2> skaller: why on earth would you need 2.3.5?
[08:37] <bob2> Leshrac: ouch
[08:37] <net_benjo> windex:  was that a good or a bad hmm??
[08:38] <bob2> Leshrac: is it too late to exchange it?
[08:38] <MrFaber> bob2, e.g. disabled synchronizing on start
[08:38] <onkarshinde> bob2: Is there any think like DSL modem with WiFi interface?
[08:38] <bob2> MrFaber: sudo rm /etc/rcS.d/S*ntp*
[08:38] <windex> net_benjo, well, wpasupplicant seems pretty straightforward, but i have no wpa host to test it with
[08:38] <MrFaber> bob2, thanks
[08:38] <skaller> because recent versions of many packages are build against it and i need those version
[08:38] <bob2> skaller: no, you're going to break your system
[08:38] <Leshrac> bob2:you mean there's no way to make it work?
[08:38] <windex> net_benjo, does ubuntu already find your network adapter? it autodetected my 2200BG
[08:38] <bob2> Leshrac: it's painful
[08:38] <net_benjo> windex...i see...but I think you could give me a hint if I give you an output of iwconfig...can I post it here?? its about 10 lines
[08:39] <windex> net_benjo, hold
[08:39] <Leshrac> what should I do then?
[08:39] <bob2> neville: #flood
[08:39] <bob2> er
[08:39] <MrFaber> Anyone has experiences with loop-aes?
[08:39] <bob2> net_benjo: #flood or the pastbin in the topc
[08:39] <windex> bob2, i just had him msg it to me
[08:39] <lfelipe> Hi, got another question. How do I force apt-get update to download the list of packages again ?
[08:39] <neville> how can i remove a accidentally added root passwd ?
[08:39] <bob2> Leshrac: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[08:39] <bob2> lfelipe: why would you need to force it?
[08:40] <onkarshinde> lfelipe: what do you mean by force? isn't apt-get update sufficient?
[08:40] <Leshrac> thanks bob2
[08:40] <bob2> neville: sudo passwd -l
[08:40] <lfelipe> well, I had to ctrl+c while it was running, and I don' t know if it really worked
[08:40] <lfelipe> so I wanted to run it again
[08:40] <lfelipe> I added hoary-backports to the sources.list, but I still can't find w32codecs
[08:41] <bob2> skaller: if you really think you need things from breezy, then either recompile the package yourself, or upgrade to breey
[08:41] <Diffindo> I have an IBM PC Camera, where can I get the Linux drivers for it?
[08:41] <drapelyk> how do I extract a tar.gz file by command line to the directory it is in?
[08:41] <bob2> lfelipe: w32codecs is not in hoary-backports
[08:41] <bob2> drapelyk: tar -zxf foo.tar.gz
[08:41] <apokryphos> lfelipe: it's in hoary extras
[08:41] <lfelipe> bob2, people on the forums were saying it was
[08:41] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell lfelipe about hoary-extras
[08:41] <skaller> bob2, I don't need to recompile the package myself, there are too many packages
[08:41] <onkarshinde> lfelipe: w32codecs is in universe
[08:41] <bob2> lfelipe: they're wrong and/or confused
[08:41] <onkarshinde> sorry
[08:41] <onkarshinde> extras
[08:41] <bob2> onkarshinde: no, it's not
[08:41] <apokryphos> lfelipe: it used to be, but that was some time ago.
[08:41] <bob2> right
[08:41] <onkarshinde> !w32codecs
[08:41] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repository. AMD64? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 Legal issues: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[08:42] <lfelipe> I've got both universe and multiverse, but no w32codecs avialable in breezy
[08:42] <bob2> skaller: good for you
[08:42] <neville> bob2, thanks a lot
[08:42] <tritium> Diffindo, they're in the default kernel
[08:42] <bob2> skaller: installing breezy's libc is not a solution to anything, tho
[08:42] <bob2> skaller: either upgrade to breezy or rebuild the packages yourself
[08:42] <skaller> well, I can't even build my own package on Hoary
[08:42] <onkarshinde> lfelipe: get your answer just before your message
[08:42] <lfelipe> is it ok to add hoary-extras to breezy's sources.list ?
[08:42] <MrFaber> there is no libdvdcss2 packet too
[08:42] <skaller> because it requires ocaml-3.08.4
[08:42] <bob2> skaller: why not?
[08:43] <tritium> Diffindo, the module name is ibmcam
[08:43] <bob2> MrFaber: not in ubuntu, indeed
[08:43] <MrFaber> But who needs it if there is vlc :)
[08:43] <Diffindo> tritium
[08:43] <Diffindo> Thanks
[08:43] <bob2> skaller: then you have to build ocaml first
[08:43] <MrFaber> bob2, how to play dvd without vlc then?
[08:43] <MrFaber> And vlc uses this lib too
[08:43] <bob2> MrFaber: you need to get it from elsewhere
[08:43] <onkarshinde> MrFaber: install totem-xine
[08:43] <bob2> ubuntu is absolutely not permitted to include it
[08:43] <skaller> i don't understand what you mean.. I have CVS Ocaml built, i can build my code
[08:44] <Diffindo> tritium: it that module in? or do I need to apt-get it...
[08:44] <bob2> onkarshinde: totem-xine cannot play encrypted (ie all) dvds without it, either
[08:44] <bob2> skaller: so what are you complaining about?
[08:44] <MrFaber> onkarshinde, thanks but I am happy with vlc just was curious that there was no packet
[08:44] <skaller> but i can't build the package, because of unsatisfied dependencies
[08:44] <Hoxzer> can I some how open video file and subtitle with VLC with one command?
[08:44] <skaller> 3.08.4 isn't available on Hoary, the latest is 3.08.2
[08:44] <annex> I followed the repositories howto ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto ) and updated my package list but the mplayer package still does not appear to exist.  How can I install mplayer?
[08:44] <bob2> skaller: do you know the difference between build and runtime dependencies?
[08:44] <skaller> yes
[08:44] <bob2> skaller: if you have ocaml installed from cvs, then ignore that build-dependency
[08:45] <bob2> annex: mplayer is in multiverse, check again that you enabled it
[08:45] <annex> bob2: I only saw universe, no multiverse
[08:45] <skaller> what do you mean ignore it?
[08:45] <bob2> annex: then enable multiverse
[08:45] <skaller> I'm not trying to build this package for myself -- I'm the dang AUTHOR
[08:46] <bob2> skaller: I mean, ignore it.  don't install it.  it doesn't matter if build-dependencies are missing
[08:46] <bob2> wtf are you talking about?
[08:46] <bob2> you're complaining that the build-dependencies cannot be satisfied in hoary, yes?
[08:46] <drapelyk> can you delete folders that are not empty?
[08:46] <skaller> I am the upstream author of a debian package
[08:46] <annex> bob2: but there is no multiverse to enable in the list
[08:46] <skaller> and also the maintainer
[08:46] <tritium> drapelyk, yes
[08:46] <bob2> annex: then add it manually
[08:46] <drapelyk> how?
[08:46] <bob2> skaller: okiedokie
[08:46] <onkarshinde> annex: add multiverse in the same line where there is universe
[08:46] <skaller> so I would like to actually check the package works
[08:46] <tritium> drapelyk, with the -f switch
[08:46] <bob2> skaller: ...
[08:47] <drapelyk> sudo rmdir * -f?
[08:47] <annex> thanks
[08:47] <bob2> skaller: so you're trying to make sure it builds on breezy?
[08:47] <skaller> i tried using equivs .. but had some problems
[08:47] <skaller> no, i'
[08:47] <tritium> drapelyk, rm, and please be very careful how you use that
[08:47] <skaller> no, i'm trying to check that the packaging is right
[08:47] <paddedwall> is it possible to change the keystrokes necessary to highlight text?
[08:47] <skaller> which requires installing it
[08:47] <MrFaber> Does anyone knows if Ubuntu has some special cache mechanism
[08:47] <bob2> skaller: if you're actually maintaing a package, presumably you know about chroots?
[08:47] <tritium> MrFaber, for caching what?
[08:47] <MrFaber> I don't got the point why apps start faster than on gentoo :)
[08:47] <annex> bob2, onkarshinde: worked, thanks
[08:48] <skaller> but it won't install due to failed dependency
[08:48] <MrFaber> same system
[08:48] <bob2> skaller: if you want to test the breezy package, install it in your breezy chroot
[08:48] <skaller> actually it's a debian package
[08:48] <bob2> MrFaber: linker optimisations, perhaps
[08:48] <MrFaber> maybe it is gnome's fault
[08:48] <bob2> skaller: then test it in your debian chroot
[08:48] <skaller> hasn't made it into ubuntu yet
[08:48] <MrFaber> I don't know
[08:48] <onkarshinde> MrFaber: May be because they are not stripped on Gentoo. See man strip
[08:49] <drapelyk> tritium it says that -f is an invalid option
[08:49] <MrFaber> possible, thanks
[08:49] <tritium> drapelyk, can't be
[08:50] <tritium> drapelyk, remember, I told you not to use that switch with rm, _not_ with rmdir
[08:50] <MrFaber> Where can I define standard apps like for viewing DVD
[08:50] <MrFaber> with Gnome
[08:50] <skaller> yes bob2, i could do that, but it is a pain: I really need to upgrade
[08:50] <skaller> but before that .. I would llike to get the locales working again :)
[08:50] <apokryphos> skaller: chroot a pain? Takes like 20 minutes, if not less.
[08:50] <apokryphos> (if you know what you're doing it's less)
[08:50] <drapelyk> when I type "sudo rmdir -f * " it does not work
[08:51] <skaller> yeah, but i don't
[08:51] <onkarshinde> MrFaber: For ubuntu, System->Preferences->Prefered Applications
[08:51] <tritium> drapelyk, please read my messages to you more carefully
[08:51] <MrFaber> onkarshinde, I have found this but this is for terminal, mail and ww only
[08:51] <apokryphos> skaller: doesn't matter; there's simple howtos
[08:51] <bob2> skaller: did this all start because you pointed apt at sid?
[08:51] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell skaller about chroot
[08:51] <drapelyk> drapelyk, remember, I told you not to use that switch with rm, _not_ with rmdir
[08:51] <drapelyk> lol
[08:51] <skaller> I apt-ed at debian-amd64 unstable
[08:51] <bob2> wow
[08:51] <skaller> stupid i know :)
[08:51] <bob2> what a shock that screwed things up
[08:51] <onkarshinde> MrFaber: Do you want for DVD?
[08:51] <drapelyk> tritium, rm does not remove files though
[08:52] <drapelyk> *folders
[08:52] <bob2> skaller: use apt pinning to unbreak your system
[08:52] <tritium> drapelyk, yes it does
[08:52] <MrFaber> onkarshinde, yes use vlc instead of totem
[08:52] <bob2> skaller: man apt_prefences, pin ubuntu hoary above 1000, run apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:52] <skaller> i reinstalled from hoary ..
[08:52] <bob2> skaller: reinstalled the whole system?
[08:52] <bob2> if not, do what I just said
[08:52] <drapelyk> tritium "cannot remove because * is a directory
[08:53] <skaller> nope, i just upgraded everying,  and got the old libc back
[08:53] <onkarshinde> MrFaber: System->Preferences->Removable drives and media preferences
[08:53] <bob2> skaller: right, so you're still screwed
[08:53] <tritium> drapelyk, use the -f switch
[08:53] <bob2> skaller: do what I said
[08:53] <skaller> just locales :)
[08:53] <MrFaber> onkarshinde, you are so fast, many thanks :)
[08:53] <skaller> ok
[08:53] <drapelyk> tritium I HAVE typed "sudo rm -f * " several times... it doesn't work
[08:54] <onkarshinde> MrFaber: Playing with ubuntu for quite a time now.
[08:54] <drapelyk> tritium it says it cannot remove it because it is a directory
[08:54] <apokryphos> drapelyk: use r option
[08:54] <tritium> drapelyk, ^ with the f
[08:54] <Will^Draven> drapelyk: sudo rm -rf *
[08:55] <MrFaber> onkarshinde, :)
[08:55] <Hikaru79> I just did a default install of Breezy and I'm looking at the new "Services Settings" dialog and I'm noticing that it came installed with three schedulers (anacron, atd, and cron) and two loggers (klogd and sysklogd). Is there a reason for the overlap, or can I safely remove the excess?
[08:55] <Will^Draven> be careful where you use that command, lol
[08:55] <paddedwall> is it possible to change the keystrokes necessary to highlight text?  I want to be able to do it the same way windows does it...
[08:55] <windex> bob2, does breezy have a wifi utility that accounts for multiple access points, networks, and wpa, yet? :)
[08:55] <bob2> windex: yes, no wpa
[08:56] <bob2> Hikaru79: they all do different things, leave them alone
[08:56] <moparfan90> hello is there a way to make my ubuntu system run faster?
[08:56] <bob2> paddedwall: that's app/toolkti specific
[08:56] <onkarshinde> Hikaru79: They are different
[08:56] <moparfan90> i already have a light wieght window manager??
[08:56] <bob2> moparfan90: not unless you tell us what bits you think are slow
[08:56] <windex> bob2, k. i'd try upgrading my tablet to breezy if i wasn't already amazed hoary is running. i'll try enjoying it first for awhile.
[08:56] <onkarshinde> moparfan90: which window manager are you using?
[08:56] <bob2> hah
[08:57] <MrFaber> onkarshinde, works great :)
[08:57] <paddedwall> so the answer is basically no... harumph...
[08:57] <moparfan90> bob2, i want the start up to be faster and shutt of.... but other then that make the whole system a little faster
[08:57] <MrFaber> I start really loving ubuntu :)
[08:57] <bob2> moparfan90: why are yo ustarting up and shutting down at all?
[08:57] <bob2> moparfan90: use suspend-to-disk
[08:57] <Hikaru79> bob2, onkarshinde , got it! =) Thanks. Good thing I checked with you guys before I did something stupid ^_^;;
[08:57] <moparfan90> i have alot of space so i sthere a way to have ubuntu uncommpressed to spped it up? will that make itfaster?
[08:57] <bob2> Hikaru79: you could get rid of them if you really knew what yo uwere doing, but it's not worth it; they use basically no ram or cpu
[08:58] <skaller> so bob2, is that pin: a=release=hoary
[08:58] <bob2> moparfan90: in what way is ubuntu currently "compressed"?
[08:58] <bob2> skaller: I'd think so
[08:58] <onkarshinde> moparfan90: there is no such thing.
[08:58] <skaller> oops, i mean pin: release a=hoary
[08:58] <bob2> I never use pinning, tho, so I might have screwed up the syntax
[08:58] <tritium> moparfan90, I don't know of another distro that boots faster than ubuntu
[08:58] <moparfan90> i dont know when it starts it says uncommpressing ubuntu
[08:58] <onkarshinde> moparfan90: which desktop environment?
[08:58] <moparfan90> aaaa      e17
[08:59] <moparfan90> http://www.enlightenment.org/
[08:59] <bob2> moparfan90: that's loading the kernel itself, and takes < 3s
[08:59] <jlorn> which file do I edit to choose KDE desktop over Gnome
[08:59] <bob2> jlorn: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[08:59] <moparfan90> i know... is there any way to make it faster other then buying stuff?
[08:59] <Riddell> jlorn: just log in to a KDE session
[09:00] <onkarshinde> moparfan90: I heard openbox is fastest.
[09:00] <jlorn> thanks for the replies :-)
[09:00] <moparfan90> it is but i like this better
[09:00] <bob2> moparfan90: you haven't told us your specs, either
[09:00] <moparfan90> oosry
[09:01] <skaller> ok, i have a pin .. how to I reinstall things?
[09:01] <moparfan90> 1.8 ghz amd atholon xp    256mb ram     120 gb HD    ubuntu is only thing on disk
[09:01] <bob2> skaller: I told yo uthat already; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:01] <moparfan90> i know i need more ram but im saving for a car
[09:01] <skaller> sorry, yes yo udid
[09:02] <onkarshinde> moparfan90: 256MB RAM is quite good. I don't think you can expect more speed.
[09:02] <Alex_BO> HELLO! I'd like use my irda port, but i don't know how.I read about Linux-IRDA Project, but i don't know if i need to download the drivers too or if it provides them.
[09:03] <moparfan90> windows has disk defragmentation doesn ubuntu have something like that?
[09:03] <skaller> ouch .. ok, thanks bob, so i downgrade .. then upgrade again ?
[09:03] <bob2> Alex_BO: www.linux-laptop.net
[09:03] <bob2> skaller: no
[09:03] <Alex_BO> moparfan90, you don't need to do such kind of things
[09:03] <bob2> skaller: that command makes apt "upgrade" everything to the version in hoary
[09:03] <bob2> moparfan90: no
[09:03] <paddedwall> next question - i've been developing a web site on my local box that uses css, javascript, php (5.03) and mysql (4.19). In order to test it, I've been uploading to my web host (a linux box).  Do I have to install Apache to get php and mysql to work?
[09:03] <moparfan90> ok but does ubuntu have it?
[09:03] <moparfan90> o
[09:03] <moparfan90> ok
[09:04] <bob2> moparfan90: unix filesystems suck less than windows ones
[09:04] <bob2> tho it would still be nice to get one
[09:04] <skaller> it's actually removing all the security fixes etc
[09:04] <moparfan90> bob2, do you know anything that will incress my speed ever by a little
[09:04] <bob2> paddedwall: on your local machine?
[09:04] <bob2> skaller: yes
[09:04] <moparfan90> ?
[09:04] <njs12345> i have a question
[09:04] <paddedwall> yes, on the local machine
[09:04] <BiSK-8> hello
[09:04] <njs12345> is there a good reason why the default command prompt doesn't have any colouring?
[09:04] <Alex_BO> moparfan90, no: you don't need to do such things
[09:04] <bob2> moparfan90: you haven't really explained what bits are slow
[09:04] <elvirolo> ompaul, hi again
[09:04] <bob2> njs12345: because it would look annoying
[09:04] <BiSK-8> do u ppl know any java compiler and decompiler i can get with apt-get?
[09:04] <njs12345> bob2: not really
[09:05] <MrFaber> What is the best configuration file in ubuntu to define aliases?
[09:05] <bob2> skaller: upgrade them later, yeah; I didn't think of that
[09:05] <bob2> njs12345: I'd be annoyed if it did
[09:05] <njs12345> makes it much easier to read
[09:05] <tritium> ubotu, tell BiSK-8 about java
[09:05] <ompaul> elvirolo, did you get sorted
[09:05] <njs12345> for instance, colouring the working directory name blue
[09:05] <bob2> MrFaber: bah ones? /etc/bash.bashrc if you want them to be global
[09:05] <Alex_BO> bob2, i quote you this: "Infrared,VIA module,Will certainly work in SIR mode. Not tested." What's SIR mode?
[09:05] <njs12345> or something like that
[09:05] <MrFaber> bob2, thanks
[09:05] <moparfan90> bob2, i have to go ill be back later but i just want to make anything i can faster.... ubuntu it sef not the software
[09:05] <onkarshinde> paddedwall: of course you will need apache for testing your site.
[09:05] <bob2> njs12345: that would look like crap on my black-background terminals
[09:05] <moparfan90> ill bbl
[09:05] <elvirolo> ompaul, i'm afraid not
[09:06] <tritium> Alex_BO, Serial InfraRed
[09:06] <bob2> Alex_BO: serial infrared; it's like a normal rs-232 serial port that works over ir
[09:06] <elvirolo> ompaul, isn't there a command i must run in order to make the script run automaticazlly?
[09:06] <bob2> (surprisingly;)
[09:06] <paddedwall> carp
[09:06] <njs12345> bob2: well, when you run ls the directories are coloured blue
[09:06] <bob2> njs12345: not by default they're not
[09:06] <bob2> njs12345: if you want to alias ls="ls --color=auto", go for it
[09:06] <njs12345> I don't remember changing anything, and they always have been for me
[09:06] <Alex_BO> bob2, tritium: okey. what i need to make work it?
[09:07] <Leshrac> just out of curiosity, has anyone here managed to get eve-online working on linux?
[09:07] <tritium> BiSK-8, did you read the URL I had ubotu provide?
[09:07] <Hikaru79> Does Gnome support fish:///?
[09:07] <BiSK-8> ???
[09:07] <BiSK-8> no
[09:07] <bob2> Hikaru79: sftp://
[09:07] <bob2> that will work almost everywhere fish will
[09:08] <tritium> ubotu, tell BiSK-8 about java
[09:08] <skaller> one other question, how to reset hardware clock and tell ubuntu it isn't utc?
[09:08] <LasseL> paddedwall, i havn't tried it but to me it seems like http://www.lighttpd.net/ could be easier to setup than apache
[09:08] <onkarshinde> !java
[09:08] <ubotu> well, java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[09:08] <tritium> BiSK-8, you should have gotten it twice now
[09:08] <bob2> skaller: /etc/default/rcS
[09:08] <skaller> thx
[09:08] <skaller> dual booting XP .. windows thinks the clock is local time ;(
[09:08] <Alex_BO> bob2, tritium: okey. what i need to make work it?
[09:09] <tritium> Alex_BO, are you using hoary or breezy?
[09:09] <Alex_BO> tritium, hoary
[09:09] <bob2> Alex_BO: to make it do what?
[09:09] <Alex_BO> bob2, to work
[09:09] <Alex_BO> bob2, i don't know if i need to install drivers or not
[09:09] <onkarshinde> Is there anything as DSL modem with WiFi interface? Do they work well with Ubuntu?
[09:09] <LasseL> BiSK-8, for a java compile you'll want sun-j2sdk1.5 from ubuntu-extras
[09:09] <ompaul> elvirolo, well that file should live in init.d and a sym link should point back to that
[09:09] <Leshrac> I have a question, I am trying to get hold of the .inf file to make ndiswrapper work, but the windows drivers come in a .exe windows installer, what can I do?
[09:10] <skaller> how do you remember all this stuff bob?
[09:10] <bob2> onkarshinde: your system is unlikely to care about what type of AP you have
[09:10] <bob2> Leshrac: try running "unzip" on it
[09:10] <tritium> BiSK-8, or build your own with make-jpkg, provided by java-package
[09:10] <bob2> skaller: by using linux daily for 4 years
[09:10] <onkarshinde> bob2: I didn't get you. What is AP?
[09:10] <BiSK-8> ok
[09:10] <Hikaru79> bob2, thank you! =) Genious.
[09:10] <BiSK-8> thanks
[09:10] <skaller> i been using linux daily for more :)
[09:10] <MrFaber> onkarshinde, how can I define standard text editor :)
[09:10] <Cryptid> bob2, please check this page it has my Xlib error, tell me how to fix it
[09:10] <skaller> but i'm not a system geek :)
[09:11] <Cryptid> bob2, please check this page it has my Xlib error, tell me how to fix it http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2269
[09:11] <bob2> onkarshinde: presumably you're asking about a dsl modem with a built-in wireless access point
[09:11] <MrFaber> I personally like gvim more
[09:11] <Alex_BO> tritium, bob2: please. tell me only if there are already the drivers into the OS or if i need to look for them
[09:11] <bob2> Cryptid: safe to ignore it
[09:11] <tritium> Alex_BO, not in hoary.  You have to build the modules from a source package in hoary
[09:12] <bob2> Alex_BO: you probably already have them, "less /var/log/dmesg" will tell you for sure
[09:12] <bob2> ah, definitiveness
[09:12] <onkarshinde> bob2: I have no idea. My ISP site says that I can get a DSL modem which has one ethernet interface and one WiFi interface.
[09:12] <patfm> hi, i'm trying to set up a dual boot on my new laptop and i'm  abit flummoxed by the instructions at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com//WindowsDualBootHowTo
[09:12] <elvirolo> ompaul, currently thde script is in /etc/rc5.d ... you mean i need to create a symlink in /etc/rc.d?
[09:12] <onkarshinde> MrFaber: No idea. It was easy in RedHat to do that. I don't know how to do in Ubuntu.
[09:12] <bob2> onkarshinde: right, which is an AP
[09:12] <patfm> how do i create a new partition?
[09:12] <bob2> patfm: ignore it, that page was written by a crack monkey
[09:13] <runeh> Trying to compile the latest Banshee, and I get "Package requirements (mono >= 1.1.8) were not met" even though mono --version claims 1.1.8.3 is installed.
[09:13] <ompaul> elvirolo, #!/bin/sh  as the first line is needed :)
[09:13] <Cryptid> bob2, but i install gDesklets and i dont know how to run it, i mean it dosent load at startup can u help me with this
[09:13] <bob2> patfm: just boot the ubuntu cd, it will let you shrink the windows partition and make a new one
[09:13] <Alex_BO> tritium, bob2: you don't say the same thing :-)
[09:13] <runeh> It's some issue with pkgconfig maybe.
[09:13] <bob2> Cryptid: then read the instructions
[09:13] <onkarshinde> bob2: Go it. I hope it really is what I am expecting it to be.
[09:13] <bob2> Alex_BO: believe tritium
[09:13] <bob2> Cryptid: once you have the gdesklets daemon running (which you have), double click on the .desktop files in nautilus
[09:13] <bob2> Cryptid: /usr/share/gdesklets or so
[09:14] <bob2> onkarshinde: I can't think what else it would be
[09:14] <bob2> runeh: dpkg -l mono | tail -n1
[09:14] <elvirolo> ompaul, of course i'm so stupid
[09:14] <elvirolo> ompaul, but do i need a symlink as well?
[09:14] <runeh> bob2: It claims the same.
[09:14] <Cryptid> bob2, if i run .desktop file will it work
[09:14] <ompaul> elvirolo, is also has to be in init.d and ln -s  real_name S99foo
[09:14] <Alex_BO> tritium, what's the name of this package? SIR or something like?
[09:14] <bob2> runeh: no, what exactly does it say
[09:14] <bob2> Cryptid: why don't you just try it?
[09:14] <runeh> ii  mono           1.1.8.3-1ubuntu1 Mono CLI (.NET) runtime
[09:15] <patfm> bob2:  i think i've successfully resized the ntfs partition. but apparently i need to change the "free space" i opened up into new partitions, one for ubuntu & one for swap. that's hwat i'm having trouble figuring out how to do
[09:15] <tritium> Alex_BO, hold on, please.  I'm not running hoary...
[09:15] <bob2> patfm: hilight the free space, hit enter on it, I think
[09:15] <njs12345> patfm: yeah, I think bob's right
[09:15] <bob2> patfm: I always forget unless I have it in front of me...but you are on the home stretch now
[09:15] <Alex_BO> tritium, okey
[09:15] <njs12345> heh, I do the same
[09:15] <patfm> bob2: ah, duh :)
[09:15] <Alex_BO> tritium, what's the difference between haory and breeze?
[09:15] <ompaul> elvirolo, the correct place for that file is in /etc/rc2.d <<<  note the 2
[09:15] <bob2> I've been stuck on that before because I thought too much
[09:15] <njs12345> Alex_BO: breezy is in active development
[09:16] <skaller> hey patfm, good idea to have 3 partitions
[09:16] <bob2> runeh: how are you installing "banshee"?
[09:16] <Leshrac> thanks bob2, unzipping worked.
[09:16] <njs12345> so hence is unstable and could crash and so on
[09:16] <runeh> From source.
[09:16] <skaller> separate partition for /boot
[09:16] <ompaul> elvirolo, the correct place for that LINK is in /etc/rc2.d <<<  note the 2
[09:16] <runeh> I need the latest version, as I have an iPod Nano.
[09:16] <njs12345> but the software is more bleeding-edge, so to speak
[09:16] <Alex_BO> njs12345, thanks
[09:16] <bob2> Leshrac: (windows self-extracting zips are often zip files with some crap stuck on the front that the "unzip" program can ignore)
[09:16] <bob2> it's more "unstable" that it changes a lot
[09:17] <bob2> it's very rarely more crashey
[09:17] <patfm> skaller: i'm thinking at this it will look like: 5gigs system stuff, 25% for windoze, 1gig swap, the rest unbuntu
[09:17] <njs12345> yeah, it works fine for me :)
[09:17] <njs12345> .. but you might run into difficulty
[09:17] <skaller> yup, something like that could be ok
[09:17] <Cryptid> bob2, there is no .desktop file :-( now what do it do, i found the directory but no files there is a pack_sensor.py and some other .py file
[09:17] <skaller> how big is your disk?
[09:17] <bob2> patfm: sounds reasonable, unles you have a lot of ram
[09:18] <bob2> runeh: sudo apt-get build-dep banshee
[09:18] <patfm> bob2: unfortunately just 512 megs
[09:18] <runeh> bob2: Thanks. I'll try that. :)
[09:18] <bob2> Cryptid: then those ones, I guess; it really has no instructions at all?
[09:18] <bob2> patfm: I was asking to make sure you have enough ram to be able to suspend-to-disk; should be fine
[09:19] <tritium> Alex_BO, let's see if I'm wrong about hoary irda support.  Can you please: cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/net/irda ?
[09:19] <tritium> or, modinfo irda
[09:19] <patfm> is there something special i need to do to indicate what role each partition will play now, or do i do that later?
[09:19] <Cryptid> bob2 i found the file in synaptic, i also tried some online help on few sites but it just dosent work
[09:19] <bob2> patfm: once you've made them, it will show the list and you can tell it where to mount, what filesystem, etc
[09:19] <bob2> Cryptid: /usr/share/doc/gdesklets
[09:19] <skaller> patfm, ubuntu cd partitioner will also set up mounts
[09:20] <patfm> okay, so i just need to get the relative sizes straight
[09:20] <skaller> and it is quite clever, it will set up grub to dual boot too :)
[09:20] <njs12345> patfm: as long as you indicate one as swap and one as /, it should work
[09:20] <njs12345> and the rest you can set up later
[09:20] <MrFaber> evolution seems to be very buggy but looks very well
[09:20] <runeh> Hrmpf. I get this: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2270
[09:20] <njs12345> in fact, I don't think you even strictly need swap
[09:21] <runeh> Do I need to install all the packages by hand?
[09:21] <tritium> njs12345, if you want to hibernate, you do
[09:21] <bob2> MrFaber: please do file bugs
[09:21] <njs12345> yeah, but you can always set up hibernation later
[09:21] <Leshrac> when introducing: "sudo modprobe diswrapper" I get this error message: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitter
[09:21] <tritium> njs12345, but you need swap space for that
[09:22] <bob2> setting it up later is way more of a pain i nthe arse
[09:22] <njs12345> yeah, but you can resize partitions, can't you?
[09:22] <bob2> not trivially
[09:22] <bob2> and it's filesystem-dependant
[09:22] <njs12345> hm
[09:22] <njs12345> eh
[09:22] <bob2> runeh: install libdbus-glib-1-dev, then try again
[09:23] <paddedwall> bob: this whole web server thing seems a bit over the top - is there an easier way?
[09:23] <runeh> bob2: Same error.
[09:23] <bob2> paddedwall: eh?
[09:23] <njs12345> runeh: you're running the configure script right?
[09:23] <bob2> installing a web server is about the simplest thing to do
[09:23] <onkarshinde> bob2: I am trying to install dvdrip. It depends on transcode which depends on certain version of libgcc1 which is not there in repositories. what do I do?
[09:23] <bob2> sudo aptitude install apache2
[09:23] <bob2> all done
[09:23] <runeh> njs12345: Yes.
[09:23] <njs12345> if you know a little bash, you could always try to hack that bit out of the script
[09:24] <bob2> onkarshinde: your version of transcode is crap
[09:24] <bob2> njs12345: that's not of any use
[09:24] <tritium> runeh, that package is in main.
[09:24] <paddedwall> todon't i also need the mod-php4 lib too?
[09:24] <runeh> njs12345: I'll need the libs anyways.
[09:24] <onkarshinde> bob2: I am installing from extras
[09:24] <MrFaber> bob2, you mean sending dump to devs or create a bt with gdb?
[09:24] <bob2> onkarshinde: then bitch at them for being idiots
[09:24] <runeh> tritium: I need the latest version for my iPod Nano.
[09:24] <paddedwall> or does apache "have it all"?  :)
[09:24] <njs12345> oh, sorry
[09:24] <MrFaber> bob2, or just click inform devs or something like that
[09:24] <bob2> MrFaber: both would be great, in bugzilla
[09:24] <bob2> paddedwall: sudo aptitude install apache2 libapache2-mod-php4 php4-mysql
[09:24] <runeh> :)
[09:25] <onkarshinde> bob2: How do i do that?
[09:25] <bob2> paddedwall: perhaps mysql-server if yo ucare about that
[09:25] <bob2> onkarshinde: on the forums, I guess
[09:25] <MrFaber> cu all
[09:25] <bob2> none of them ever show up on irc to support their broken stuff
[09:25] <bob2> (afaict)
[09:25] <getVOIPfromME> lol
[09:25] <skaller> who?
[09:25] <skaller> software developers?
[09:25] <onkarshinde> bob2: Where can I find dvdrip in source format or any such other program?
[09:25] <Cryptid> bob2, /usr/share/doc/gdesklets no such directory exist :-(,,, My life sux
[09:26] <gr3g1> hey guys, how can i execute something before x loads?
[09:26] <tritium> runeh, try dbus-glib-1-dev
[09:26] <bob2> Cryptid: do yo ureally have gdesklets installed?
[09:26] <bob2> gr3g1: to do what?
[09:26] <runeh> tritium: Allready did.
[09:26] <tritium> runeh, or use breezy
[09:26] <gr3g1> 915resoltuon, a tool to patch memory in the vbios..
[09:26] <gr3g1> its a bash script
[09:26] <bob2> haha i915
[09:27] <runeh> tritium: I am. ;)
[09:27] <bob2> gr3g1: cp /etc/init.d/{skeleton,unbreakintel}, edit it, use update-rc.d to install it
[09:27] <gr3g1> i have i845G :( resolution really sucks
[09:27] <tritium> runeh, then you should be able to find libdbus-glib-1-dev in the main repo
[09:27] <bob2> onkarshinde: dude, that's in multiverse...
[09:27] <Hoxzer> can I somehow edit azureus to open folder with nautilus when I select "open download folder" in it?
[09:27] <gr3g1> bob2: can i pm?
[09:27] <elvirolo> ompaul, still doesn't work ... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2272
[09:28] <runeh> I installed it, but I still can't get sudo apt-get build-dep banshee to work.
[09:28] <patfm> so is the received wisdom of ubuntunia that a swap partition is my friend? heh
[09:28] <runeh> Getting the same error as here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2270
[09:28] <bob2> gr3g1: no
[09:28] <gr3g1> ok sorry
[09:28] <tritium> Sorry, runeh.  I've got to get going.  Good luck.
[09:28] <bob2> runeh: oh well, you'll have to select everything fro mthat list and install it with apt yourself
[09:28] <paddedwall> bob2: now what?  (just kidding - grin)
[09:28] <runeh> Thanks.
[09:28] <skaller> patfm, you should have a swap partition!!
[09:28] <gr3g1> i dont get : cp /etc/init.d/{skeleton,unbreakintel}
[09:28] <bob2> gr3g1: that's a command to run
[09:28] <runeh> bob2: I was hoping to avoid that, but what the hell ...
[09:28] <jakedahn> hey, can someone help me get sound on my mac mini running kubuntu?
[09:28] <Leshrac> does anyone have any idea on why I get a Fatal error message when trying to run "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"?
[09:29] <gr3g1> i just added a file called res.sh into the init.d folder
[09:29] <bob2> runeh: it's just  cutting and pasting a few lines
[09:29] <bob2> Leshrac: doesn't sound like your card is supported by that version of ndiswrapper
[09:29] <bob2> gr3g1: then use update-rc.d to install it into the runlevels
[09:29] <Leshrac> how can I heck if it is supported in a altter version?
[09:29] <patfm> okay, i will have one. thx skaller
[09:29] <skaller> also, patfm is windows using ntfs, good idea to make a small FAT partition too
[09:30] <skaller> both Linux and Windows can read an write Fat partition
[09:30] <patfm> should the partitions i create be pimary or logical?
[09:30] <patfm> ntfs, it's xp
[09:30] <bob2> patfm: doesn't matter
[09:30] <annex> How can I check what version of a driver Xorg is using for my video card?  I'm trying to troubleshoot an upgrade and I think it's because the free 'ati' driver has changed.
[09:30] <jakedahn> hey, can someone help me get sound on my mac mini running kubuntu? Anyine at all?
[09:30] <skaller> bob2, there is some kind of limit on primary partitions ?
[09:30] <bob2> annex: /var/log/, X.org.log
[09:30] <bob2> skaller: 4
[09:31] <bob2> skaller: for windows, anyway
[09:31] <gr3g1> bob2: there is no update-rc files in /etc/init.d
[09:31] <bob2> jakedahn: I assume you found out using google if it's supposed to work with your kernel version or not?
[09:31] <skaller> so best to have 1 primary partition for Linux and one for Windows, make others logical
[09:31] <annex> bob2: I just thought of that before you said it... thanks ;-)
[09:31] <bob2> gr3g1: indeed, I said update-rc.d, and it's a command, not a file in that dir
[09:31] <jakedahn> bob2: nope
[09:31] <skaller> i hate dual booting ;((
[09:31] <bob2> jakedahn: then go do so
[09:31] <jakedahn> bob2: ill do that now lol
[09:32] <bob2> Leshrac: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[09:32] <elvirolo> ompaul, is there anything wrong with what i did ?
[09:32] <onkarshinde> skaller: Then dump windows as I did
[09:32] <skaller> hehe .. I need windows for two reasons: (1) test my software on it and (2) play games
[09:33] <skaller> not saying which is most important .. :)
[09:33] <patfm> skaller: why do you hate it? i just have to keep windwos because i have to test layout in i.e. *puke*
[09:33] <getVOIPfromME> Only reason for a dual-boot is to have training wheels while you learn Linuc
[09:33] <onkarshinde> bob2: If I add ftp repositories in sources.list instead of http with apt-get download packages faster?
[09:33] <getVOIPfromME> *Linux
[09:33] <onkarshinde> skaller: I heard that cedega is good for running windows games on linux
[09:33] <runeh> bob2: Thanks for your help. It seems to work now. At least I got through configure. :)
[09:34] <patfm> actually i haven't used windows for years. that's why i don't know any of this partitioning nonsense : )
[09:34] <skaller> onkarshide, thx, I will have a look
[09:34] <jjazz_> patfm, I think you might be able to run IE in WINE, no?
[09:34] <Cryptid> bob2, yes i really have gdesklets installed what do u thing the problem do u want me to completely remove it then restart and try t install it again
[09:35] <bob2> onkarshinde: not unless your network is broken
[09:35] <bob2> runeh: np
[09:35] <bob2> Cryptid: no
[09:35] <patfm> jjazz_: possibly, i've never tried it. anyway, i'll try and if it works out later i'll just wipe the disk & install linux everywhere
[09:35] <onkarshinde> jjazz_: I suppose for running IE in wine you will have to install complete windows since IE is integrated with Windows
[09:35] <skaller> WineX was renamed to Cedeg ... nice
[09:36] <gr3g1> bob2: i did update-rc.d res.sh defaults
[09:36] <gr3g1> is that good/
[09:36] <jjazz_> onkarshinde, but isn't all that functoinality in the DLLs that are replicated by the WINE project?
[09:36] <ompaul> elvirolo, did you add that line to the start of the file?
[09:36] <onkarshinde> jjazz_: I am not sure about it.
[09:36] <patfm> so let me get this straight... here's my theoretical partitioning: 5g system junk, 25% ntfs for xp, 1gig logical swap, 10gig logical fat, the rest primary for ubuntu
[09:37] <getVOIPfromME> Cedega supports DirectX - WINE does not
[09:37] <onkarshinde> jjazz_: I still think you may not be able to run IE. Any other windows application but not IE.
[09:37] <Cryptid> bob2, then what do thing i should do, i think it would be better if i forget about it, isnt it?
[09:37] <amonkey> i can't seem to stream stuff from windwos media encoder to totem even though have the win32codecs. any ideas?
[09:37] <elvirolo> ompaul, in /etc/init.d/wifi ?
[09:37] <athlon> just installed clamav. When I run it, it says that the virus definition is outdated. But even if I do "sudo freshclam", it still says it's outdated
[09:37] <mjr> getVOIPfromME, incorrect, though Cedega's support is more complete
[09:37] <jjazz_> onkarshinde, I've had hte unfortuante experience of having to study how IE is integrated into Windows.  It's all in the DLLs.  The integration is just hooks.
[09:38] <jjazz_> patfm, onkarshinde, http://patrick.spacesurfer.com/ie_wine_install.html
[09:38] <getVOIPfromME> amonkey: apt-get install totem-xine
[09:38] <onkarshinde> jjazz_: That is good. But I am not interested anyway.
[09:38] <bob2> gr3g1: did you read the hel pfor how update-rc.d works?
[09:38] <getVOIPfromME> mjr: used to be the case....
[09:38] <bob2> athlon: you know you don't need clamav for ubuntu itself, right?
[09:39] <durt> how do you get the subscripts and superscripts to go above a sigma in texmacs (or just in tex)?
[09:39] <amonkey> getVOIPfromME, i have the xine version of totem already
[09:39] <jjazz_> durt, /j #latex
[09:39] <amonkey> i can't get xine to accept a url either, where do i go for that
[09:39] <bob2> durt: f^y, iirc
[09:39] <getVOIPfromME> amonkey: do you get sound?
[09:39] <njs12345> onkarshinde: a setup like that is actually pretty cool if you do web devel
[09:39] <durt> thanks
[09:39] <gr3g1> bob2: yes, but it still didnt load
[09:39] <Hikaru79> I've installed j2sdk1.5-sun from a third-party repository. However, 'java' is still a symlink to gij. Is it okay to redirect that symlink to the /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/bin/java file? (javac is already linking to the right place, by the way)
[09:40] <athlon> bob2, my windows partition is almost certainly just got infected by virus but clamav in windows itself says theres no virus, so I want to scan the partition for virus from ubuntu
[09:40] <njs12345> onkarshinde: because it lets you test a page in basically all three major engines without rebooting (gecko, IE, khtml)
[09:40] <skaller> durt, that won't do it: use \sum not \sigma
[09:40] <bob2> gr3g1: is it listed in /etc/rc2.d?
[09:40] <amonkey> getVOIPfromME, totem freezes when i put in the http://xxxxx:8081 url
[09:40] <bob2> Hikaru79: yes, but it may get overwritten
[09:40] <bob2> athlon: right
[09:41] <Hikaru79> bob2, what may get overwritten?
[09:41] <onkarshinde> njs12345: With IE being crappy about supporting w3c standards, you are never sure that something will work on all versions of IE. So it is better to test for gecko and khtml.
[09:41] <njs12345> onkarshinde: true
[09:41] <njs12345> but for any serious webdevel you really need to make it work in IE too
[09:41] <durt> thanks skaller ill see
[09:41] <bob2> Hikaru79: the symlink, when gij gets updated
[09:41] <njs12345> sadly
[09:41] <njs12345> or at least IE6
[09:42] <Zatoichi> is there a repository list somewhere?
[09:42] <onkarshinde> njs12345: I am seeing death of IE with upcomng of FF 1.5
[09:42] <gr3g1> bob2: tes it is
[09:42] <njs12345> hopefully IE7 will be better in that regard
[09:42] <gr3g1> bob2: yes***
[09:42] <patfm> njs12345: how well does konqueror correspond to safari's rendering engine, do you know? there's also going to be a lot of javascript in my stuff  -- do they use the same javascirpt interpreter?
[09:42] <mik3> whats the command to reconfigure xorg config?
[09:42] <skaller> i cant double check durt, if you like .. have a couple of tex books here .. used to write lots of it
[09:42] <jack-> zatoichi: nice nick :)
[09:42] <njs12345> patfm: They're fairly close
[09:42] <Zatoichi> domo
[09:42] <njs12345> mik3: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[09:42] <mik3> thanks
[09:42] <Octane> does Kubuntu Breezy need qt4?
[09:43] <lorenzod> Octane, no
[09:43] <bob2> gr3g1: then it will run on boot
[09:43] <Hikaru79> bob2, drat. It never did this in hoary -- is there any way to make gij play nice?
[09:43] <Octane> lorenzod: thanks
[09:43] <bob2> Octane: is qt4 even out yet?
[09:43] <lorenzod> bob2: yes
[09:43] <njs12345> patfm: they don't correspond exactly, but it's the closest you're going to get without.. ahem.. fiddling around with Intel OSX or buying a Mac
[09:43] <Octane> bob2: yup it even has packages on universe
[09:43] <gr3g1> bob2; I put in a 'echo Changing screen res' and sleep 3 .. i didnt see that when i booted
[09:43] <ompaul> elvirolo, that would be a good place for what we were trying to do
[09:43] <bob2> ah, last month
[09:44] <lorenzod> Is anybody else having problems with nautilus and gnome-panel?
[09:44] <lorenzod> That is: current Breezy.
[09:44] <bob2> gr3g1: what is the name of it in /etc/rc2.d?
[09:44] <Octane> mmmmmmmmmmm breezy
[09:44] <bob2> lorenzod: please do file a bug if no one else has
[09:44] <skaller> durt, yup \sum^{i=1}_{n} x_i
[09:44] <lorenzod> Specifically, they eat *all* the core.
[09:44] <Zatoichi> link to repository list, anyone?
[09:44] <Octane> can someone give me any tips on how to control the size of my logs? i got a million logs and theyre all giagnatic
[09:44] <gr3g1> bob2: S20res.sh
[09:44] <elvirolo> ompaul, sry, what place?
[09:45] <Zatoichi> Octane, logrotate?
[09:45] <getVOIPfromME> lol - I never mess with something untill it is officially released. Everytime I do, it breaks something majorly
[09:45] <ompaul> elvirolo, that /etc/init.d/wifi
[09:45] <Octane> Zatoichi: that roatest them it doesnt truncate them :)
[09:45] <Cryptid> What is X11?????
[09:45] <mik3> how do i make my new xserver-xorg settings take effect without rebooting?
[09:45] <lorenzod> bob2: intend to. but I'd like to know if anybody else has experienced it.
[09:45] <dell500> how would I get dhttpd installed? apt-get install dhttpd??
[09:45] <mik3> Cryptid : it's the x server
[09:45] <Octane> mik3: exit your window manager and then in the login hit CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to restart X
[09:45] <jack-> zatoichi: for breezy or hoary?
[09:45] <bob2> gr3g1: and the scritp runs properly when run as 'sudo /etc/init.d/res.sh start'?
[09:46] <Zatoichi> sorry, hoary.
[09:46] <gr3g1> yup
[09:46] <gr3g1> bob2: yup
[09:46] <bob2> Cryptid: the thing that displays graphics on your screen
[09:46] <jack-> i'll just paste you my sources.list ok?
[09:46] <elvirolo> ompaul, yeah, i pasted its content in the paste bin
[09:46] <bob2> dell500: does that exist in ubuntu?
[09:46] <Leshrac> bob2: I have found that my brother's computer has an ASUS pci wireless lan card, is there any chance that it will work if I exchange cards between computers?
[09:46] <amonkey> how can i get the WMV3 codec?
[09:47] <patfm> skaller: should that fat partition be fat16 or fat32?
[09:47] <onkarshinde> amonkey: never heard of it.
[09:47] <bob2> Leshrac: depends what chipset that is
[09:47] <dell500> bob2, no idea, i was just wanting to get a simple web server up to host some pics
[09:47] <bob2> amonkey: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:47] <bob2> dell500: apache2 will be much less hassle
[09:47] <amonkey> onkarshinde, it's what vlc says it needs too play a widnows media encoder stream
[09:47] <onkarshinde> dell500: apache2
[09:47] <skaller> patfm, fat32, and only a small partition for exchanging files
[09:47] <Leshrac> bob2: and only way to check is plugging it in and running lspci?
[09:48] <dell500> bob2, apt-get install apache2 ??
[09:48] <skaller> i forgot to do that .. had to buy a ram stick
[09:48] <Zatoichi> Octane, I beleive mine are compressed, every week, up untill 4, then the oldest one is removed.
[09:48] <Octane> Zatoichi: interesting, that does it automatically or you remove them
[09:48] <patfm> skaller: like a gig or something? the only thing i can see wating to shuffle back and forth would be mp3s, i guess
[09:49] <bob2> Leshrac: or reading the box, or looking at the chips on it or ...
[09:49] <bob2> dell500: yes
[09:49] <njs12345> I use a program called explore2fs quite a lot
[09:49] <Zatoichi> look in  /etc/logrotate.conf
[09:49] <njs12345> lets you get read-only ext2/3 access in windows
[09:49] <skaller> you have to decide, useful for emails, mp3s, whatever ..
[09:49] <Leshrac> bob2:ok, let me a sec I have the card in front of me
[09:49] <njs12345> and in linux you can read ntfs
[09:49] <njs12345> so basically you get the advantages of having a small fat32 partition without the waste of space
[09:49] <dell500> does anyone know how to find out what model (if not present) of an AirLink+ router?? i don't want to upgrade the wrong firmware and i can't seem to find the model number
[09:50] <skaller> right, but sometimes useful to read and write from both sides
[09:50] <amonkey> bob2, i already have w3scodecs and totem-xine, and i still can't player wmv streams. streams being operative, cuz i can play wmv's just fine.
[09:50] <Leshrac> bob2: is WL-138G a chipset?
[09:50] <jjazz_> dell500, does your router have a web-based config?  Wouldn't it say in there?
[09:50] <patfm> i have a big external usb drive
[09:50] <bob2> amonkey: can mplayer?
[09:50] <bob2> Leshrac: no
[09:50] <njs12345> skaller: yes, but read-only access from both sids is similiar
[09:50] <patfm> maybe that would suffice for moving stuff
[09:50] <dell500> jjazz_, i've looked, but it doesn't seem to be in there for some reason
[09:50] <dell500> let me check one more time
[09:51] <mik3> good thing i installed an ssh server, i chose the wrong resolution default and it wouldn't restart xorg =D
[09:51] <njs12345> patfm: yup, sounds pretty good
[09:51] <skaller> yeah, i would like one of them too patfm
[09:51] <jakedahn> um... i found a link to this http://www.pvv.org/~perchrh/macmini/linux26-macmini-sound.patch   but i dont know how to install the patch can someone help me
[09:51] <njs12345> mik3: you could always use the Ctrl+Alt+F1/F2/F3.. consoles
[09:51] <njs12345> if you didn't know about them
[09:51] <jjazz_> dell500, call tech support.  They probably have a series of questions they can ask you about the device to ID it.  Or did you look at the bottom of the unit?
[09:51] <bob2> jakedahn: that would require a kernel recompile
[09:51] <gr3g1> bob2: is there any other way?
[09:51] <bob2> gr3g1: no
[09:51] <jakedahn> bob: are you sure?
[09:51] <black_13> does the ubuntu boot cds use isolinux or grub as the bootloader
[09:52] <dell500> jjazz_, ya,  i looked at the whole thing
[09:52] <bob2> jakedahn: yes, it's a kernel patch
[09:52] <ntumba> Hi everyone. I was wondering if some of you could help me with my new ubuntu installation. I installed ubuntu in English and I would also like to have it in French
[09:52] <amonkey> bob2, mplyaer complains about 400:bad request but i know the server is working cuz a winsows based install of wmp can stream it. but curiously not mpc.
[09:52] <zenlunatic> anyone using breezy powepc?
[09:52] <jakedahn> bob2:ok well how do i do it?
[09:52] <jjazz_> tech support can almost definitely do it
[09:52] <zenlunatic> should i wait for breezy to go official and stick with hoary or should i go for breezy now?
[09:52] <bob2> jakedahn: not simply
[09:52] <njs12345> jakedahn: it's quite a difficult thing to do, really ;)
[09:53] <bob2> zenlunatic: do yo ucare about binary X drivers?
[09:53] <benplaut> !codecs
[09:53] <ubotu> from memory, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[09:53] <bob2> zenlunatic: oh, ppc,
[09:53] <onkarshinde> goodbye everybody. Gooing to bed.
[09:53] <benplaut> !botsnack
[09:53] <ubotu> :)
[09:53] <jakedahn> Is it like making the kernel for gentoo?
[09:53] <elvirolo> oh i'm getting fed up, it still doesn't work
[09:53] <bob2> zenlunatic: should be fine; do files bugs if you find them
[09:53] <zenlunatic> bob2: no i don't use non-free software
[09:53] <jjazz_> onkarshinde, peace
[09:53] <bob2> jakedahn: a little
[09:53] <njs12345> maybe you could file a bug for it
[09:53] <elvirolo> i mean why doesn't ubuntu do that *by default* ??
[09:53] <jakedahn> bob2 is it easier? because ive done that before
[09:54] <bob2> jakedahn: I have never compiled a kernel on gentoo
[09:54] <jakedahn> aye
[09:54] <bob2> elvirolo: do what by default?
[09:54] <zenlunatic> bob2 will i be able to upgrade to breezy release from the testing breezy or whatever its called?
[09:54] <durt> thanks skaller it works :)
[09:54] <bob2> zenlunatic: of course
[09:54] <elvirolo> bob2, activate my wifi network interface at boot time
[09:54] <zenlunatic> bob2 apt-get dist-upgrade?
[09:54] <jjazz_> zenlunatic, that's kinda the whole point  :)
[09:54] <ntumba> does anybody know how to make language packs work? I installed the french pack using synapic but when I log in with french the system says it doesn't exists and reverts to standard english language
[09:54] <njs12345> jakedahn: There are some instructions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto
[09:54] <bob2> jakedahn: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12 ; cd /usr/src, unpack it ; apply that patch ; cd to source dir ; make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image
[09:55] <skaller> I quoted from Knuth  :)
[09:55] <jakedahn> ok
[09:55] <bob2> zenlunatic: or aptitude or synaptic, yes
[09:55] <bob2> adios, y'all
[09:55] <jjazz_> bob2, peace
[09:55] <skaller> thx bob2!!!
[09:56] <Octane> bob2 is the man
[09:56] <jakedahn> thx for your help
[09:56] <Leshrac> adios ;)
[09:56] <patfm> seeya bob2
[09:56] <njs12345> bob2: good to talk to you
[09:56] <zenlunatic> will the auto updater upgrade from the testing breezy to stable breezy?
[09:56] <Leshrac> ok guys, I have got this wlan card:
[09:57] <Leshrac> MArvell Technology Group LTd. Marvell W8300 802.11
[09:57] <Leshrac> how do I get it t work?
[09:58] <clarknova> yeah, someone tell Leshrac how to get his lan card to work. i need to know this too.
[09:58] <zenlunatic> :-D
[10:01] <Alex_BO> HELLO! I have to modify the file /etc/conf.module, but i can't find it.where is it in ubuntu?
[10:01] <reffie> anyone with ubuntu on a powerbook/
[10:02] <amonkey> just a little update if anyone cares, you can't stream wm9, it has to be in wm8 format, and even though it appears to only work in vlc.
[10:02] <benplaut> [breezy]  I followed normal instructions to enable codecs, but in every media player, the size of the box is correct, the length is correct, sound works, but no video
[10:02] <robertj> Alex: I think your looking for /etc/modules.conf
[10:02] <benplaut> any suggestions?
[10:02] <Alex_BO> robertj, tnks
[10:02] <durt> alex, i think your looking for /etc/modules
[10:02] <robertj> which basically says "edit /etc/modutils and then run update-modules"
[10:03] <falconX> I've got an error with dual screens in Ubuntu, using TwinView
[10:03] <Alex_BO> robertj, i can't find it!
[10:03] <skaller> skaller@rosella:/work/felix/flx$ cat /etc/modules
[10:03] <skaller> # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
[10:03] <skaller> ...
[10:03] <patfm> hope this isn't annoying to ask one more time, but anyone think this partition table is problematic before i write it: http://ruphus.com/stash/partitions.jpg
[10:04] <Alex_BO> skaller, okey. i have found it
[10:04] <skaller> patfm .. looks ok to me
[10:04] <robertj> hrmm, I've got both
[10:04] <robzon> patfm: yeah, it's ok
[10:04] <skaller> 80 gig disk?
[10:05] <Leshrac> installing grub has broken my WinXP installation, is there anything I can do to fix it?
[10:05] <patfm> skaller: yeah
[10:05] <zenlunatic> how do u upgrade to breezy from hoary?
[10:05] <robzon> zenlunatic: insert breezy CD while running hoary
[10:05] <durt> change your repos, then apt-get distupgrade
[10:05] <robzon> zenlunatic: or upgrade directly from repositories... but I find upgrading from CD easier
[10:05] <M3hdi> robzon:breezy is available as live CD only
[10:06] <falconX> I keep getting this: (II) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s): CRT-0, CRT-1
[10:06] <falconX> (WW) NVIDIA(0): Multiple displays connected, but only one display allowed;
[10:06] <benplaut> M3hdi: no it isn't...
[10:06] <zenlunatic> hm... i think i might just wait for breezy release and do fresh install
[10:06] <robzon> M3hdi: uh, so how did I get to download breezy install CD? :)
[10:06] <zenlunatic> M3hdi: yeah its not
[10:06] <M3hdi> robzon:donu
[10:06] <robertj> Does the liveCD include Ubuntu Express yet?
[10:06] <patfm> skaller: look sensible to you?
[10:06] <skaller> yup, looks fine
[10:07] <M3hdi> robzon:sorry it's preview release
[10:07] <skaller> partition is personal thing: I have a few more, I have one for my work so I don't lose it when I screw up the OS
[10:07] <patfm> okay. /me lights rocket
[10:07] <robzon> zenlunatic: I upgraded from CD and everything went smoothly
[10:07] <zenlunatic> robertj: whats ubuntu express?
[10:07] <M3hdi> robzon:you can't just upgrade with apt ?
[10:07] <Alex_BO> IS THERE anybody how can help me to install irda connection?
[10:08] <tscherler> hi all
[10:08] <robertj> zenulunatic: GUI installer
[10:08] <zenlunatic> robzon: its just that i don't have a real compelling reason to need breezy
[10:08] <MrFaber> Is it possible that Ubuntu has now two screensavers?
[10:08] <robzon> M3hdi: you can, but I didn't want to wait for apt to download all the stuff
[10:08] <MrFaber> under Preferences are two different ones
[10:08] <zenlunatic> MrFaber: it comes with many screensavers
[10:08] <M3hdi> robzon:ok tnx
[10:08] <mae> OMG
[10:08] <MrFaber> zenlunatic, thanks, how can I use normal xscreensaver
[10:09] <robertj> I'm holding out, this might be the first time I make it all the way to stable release without dist-upgrading
[10:09] <mae> Pacman ss is sweet!
[10:09] <zenlunatic> MrFaber: i would probably start with man pages
[10:09] <tscherler> my laptop do not read the install cd
[10:09] <MrFaber> the screensaver daemon isn't started if I start it
[10:09] <MrFaber> man pages of screensaver?
[10:09] <zenlunatic> robertj: plus i installed a lot of crap i don't need just to test some different software i really just want to reinstall to get rid of it all
[10:09] <tscherler> everztime I come to "Install the base system" it crashed saying that there is no cd
[10:10] <Zatoichi> damn power companies
[10:10] <tscherler> how can install  from a server?
[10:17] <nyktovus> ok
[10:18] <nyktovus> i was aking about getting mplayer
[10:18] <nyktovus> but i dont know what repositories to use
[10:18] <OceanNoPontos> hello! anyone here upgraded the repository from hoary to breeze to get gnome 2.12?
[10:18] <OceanNoPontos> it went all well to me, except for an annoying bug on the panel...
[10:18] <nyktovus> i just wanna watch movies in firefox
[10:18] <OceanNoPontos> I can't add new applets 'cause it crashes. :)
[10:19] <OceanNoPontos> anyone here experienced the same problem?
[10:19] <] N[ame> ive installed breezy 2x but have reverted back to hoary till breezy goes gold
[10:19] <athlon>  /j #methlabs
[10:19] <] N[ame> to many issues
[10:19] <nyktovus> how can i tell if i'm using hoary or warty?
[10:20] <] N[ame> look and see what repositories you are using
[10:20] <nyktovus> thats the issue.. i dont know what repositories to use
[10:20] <OceanNoPontos> I thought on using Enlightenment as a window manager, but got no clue on setting that on gnome.
[10:21] <floppyears> hi
[10:21] <] N[ame> nyktovus, open update manager and go into settings it will tell you what repositories you are using
[10:21] <OceanNoPontos> the key that used to set that says to be deprecated from gnome 2.12 on... so I just wanted to drop metacity and stay with enlightenment.
[10:21] <floppyears> how can I run samba so that it will remount my shares ?
[10:21] <nyktovus> i wanna get mplayer, i dont know what repositories to use.. i need to know what version of ubuntu i'm running so i can find the right repositories.. or am i totally backwards?
[10:21] <dougsk> nyktovus, cat /etc/issue
[10:21] <nyktovus> i dont have an update manager
[10:21] <] N[ame> you dont
[10:22] <] N[ame> its in system\administration
[10:22] <dougsk> !restrictedformats
[10:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[10:22] <jatos> hi
[10:22] <nyktovus> ubuntu 4.10 .. warty
[10:22] <nyktovus> thankx doug
[10:22] <floppyears> anybody know how to remount samba mounts ?
[10:22] <dougsk> nyktovus, try reading the wiki entry for restricted formats -- np
[10:23] <jatos> is breezy particuarly stable?
[10:23] <OceanNoPontos> glloppy: it should be enough to add them to fstab, no?
[10:23] <nyktovus> i did.
[10:23] <dougsk> jatos, beats me -- afaik -- from reading the lists, it's a lot more stable than it was
[10:23] <test34-> how do I add drm module for xorg ? add it in the module section of xorg.conf ?
[10:23] <nyktovus> i tried working with it.. but i cant figure out what repositores to use
[10:23] <benplaut> [breezy]  I followed normal instructions to enable codecs, but in every media player, the size of the box is correct, the length is correct, sound works, but no video
[10:23] <] N[ame> jatos, not for me, it was fast but unstable
[10:23] <] N[ame> nautilus kept crashing
[10:24] <jatos> I want to make sure that other people find it stable before I go get it
[10:24] <jatos> ah
[10:24] <OceanNoPontos> no one could help me with the enlightenment thing? :(
[10:24] <jatos> well I am using kde....
[10:24] <dougsk> nyktovus, being on warty, hmm, not sure if the repos are still open, I imagine they are, I'll take a look
[10:24] <] N[ame> every time I accessed my usb drives nautilus crashed
[10:24] <jatos> I think the warty, hoary and breezy repos's are all still open
[10:24] <OceanNoPontos> Name: you have ***replaced*** ***all*** of your repositories with breezy?
[10:25] <] N[ame> no
[10:25] <] N[ame> I clean installed breezy
[10:25] <__filip_> what does i need to look at an .wmv movie ?
[10:25] <] N[ame> but reinstalled hoary
[10:25] <jatos> btw, ] n[ame, why don't you run apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:25] <] N[ame> because breezy was to unstable
[10:25] <jatos> get hoary, thats stable
[10:25] <] N[ame> hoary is wicked stable
[10:25] <Hoxzer> if I just installed software with wine to C driver where should it be?
[10:25] <JDahl> __filip_, you can use many programs, eg. mplayer
[10:26] <] N[ame> ill wait till breezy goes final
[10:26] <jatos> so why just upgrade to hoary and ditch warty
[10:26] <__filip_> is it no codec i need?
[10:26] <solidgroove> i was trying to load adobe font with cedega I changed it to another font and everything works good
[10:26] <jatos> ok
[10:26] <dougsk> nyktovus, they appear to work, so you'll need to change hoary to warty and that should work
[10:26] <OceanNoPontos> what I wanted the most was the new features of nautilus, now I can't go back to 2.10 or I'll hate it, he he he
[10:26] <kevogod> What's a good email client for use with an Exchange server? (Evolution crashes on me all the time.)
[10:26] <] N[ame> I gotta say I liked what I saw in breezy
[10:26] <] N[ame> just waiting till its stable now
[10:26] <OceanNoPontos> kevogod: have you tried mozilla thunderbird/
[10:27] <test34-> how can you open files with admin privilages in a text editor for example ?
[10:27] <OceanNoPontos> test34: sudo
[10:27] <test34-> privileges..
[10:27] <] N[ame> test34-, sudo gedit
[10:27] <jatos> has breezy got much new for KDE users?
[10:27] <OceanNoPontos> or gksu gedit
[10:27] <OceanNoPontos> the cute way. :)
[10:27] <kevogod> OceanNoPontos, Does it integrate with an Exchange server well?
[10:27] <test34-> thanks name
[10:27] <] N[ame> kevogod, no
[10:27] <] N[ame> thunderbird does not support exchange
[10:27] <] N[ame> not that I can see
[10:28] <kevogod> That is what I thought as my parents use it on their Windows machine.
[10:28] <] N[ame> only pop and imap
[10:28] <OceanNoPontos> test34: that's googling:
[10:28] <OceanNoPontos> MozillaNews - Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 Getting Started Guide - [ Traduzir esta pgina ] 
[10:28] <OceanNoPontos> Mozilla Thunderbird works very well with MS Exchange, both receiving and sending.
[10:28] <] N[ame> OceanNoPontos, is there a howto to set it up
[10:28] <OceanNoPontos> kevogod, name: or they're lying on us. :)
[10:29] <] N[ame> I think they are lying
[10:29] <] N[ame> lol
[10:29] <windex> thunderbird supports exchange via imap, ] N[ame
[10:29] <OceanNoPontos> see that to configure it:
[10:29] <OceanNoPontos> http://www.lancs.ac.uk/iss/ras/thunderbird.htm
[10:29] <windex> it does not support calandar junk, among other things.
[10:29] <OceanNoPontos> there's a topic:
[10:29] <OceanNoPontos> Configuring an Existing Copy Thunderbird to read University Exchange Email
[10:29] <OceanNoPontos> there is an example there.
[10:29] <kevogod> Does it do more than just Email?
[10:29] <windex> if you want more complete exchange integration you're kind of forced to use evolution
[10:29] <kevogod> Calander, Tasklist, Exchange contacts?
[10:30] <OceanNoPontos> kevogod: no, mozilla has split their apps.
[10:30] <OceanNoPontos> Calendar and tasklist no.
[10:30] <kevogod> I realize Sunbird is the Calander application.
[10:30] <OceanNoPontos> just mail.
[10:30] <OceanNoPontos> kevogod: yep, you're right.
[10:30] <Davey|Laptop> kevogod, might try Evolution?
[10:30] <windex> kevogod, sunbird dosen't work with exchange, either
[10:30] <] N[ame> evolution works well with exchange
[10:30] <kevogod> I already pointed out that Evolution crashes like 80% of the time for me.
[10:30] <windex> evolution however is designed to replace outlook and has an outlook interface
[10:30] <OceanNoPontos> but sunbird I think is very new...
[10:30] <kevogod> It is very unstable.
[10:30] <Davey|Laptop> dammit, for a minute there I was dreaming I was back on Ubuntu :(
[10:31] <windex> kevogod, dunno why.
[10:31] <] N[ame> ive had no issues with evo and exchange
[10:31] <OceanNoPontos> kevogod: my evolution is just "lazy" or "not so fast"...
[10:31] <OceanNoPontos> and I took the risk on getting it from breezy...
[10:31] <odatubuntu> hello everyone
[10:31] <sorush20> how do I get evolution to download the images with the email.. just like thunderbird
[10:31] <OceanNoPontos> what kind of problems are you facing?
[10:31] <windex> kevogod, i only stopped using evolution because it frequently wouldn't update my imap folders, it would say it was, but i'd re-open evolution, and a bunch of stuff was still marked as new
[10:31] <odatubuntu> does anyone know how i can setup my gamepad for soldiers of fortune?
[10:32] <OceanNoPontos> except on that it is rock solid, even from breezy. :)
[10:32] <OceanNoPontos> sorush20, anyone using enlightenment with gnome here?
[10:32] <kevogod> I am using Exchange protocol rather than Imap.
[10:32] <OceanNoPontos> I mean, so
[10:33] <OceanNoPontos> I hate xchat habit to complete nicks, he he h
[10:33] <] N[ame> im using openbox as metacity is uber slow
[10:33] <Hoxzer> aaargh what the fuck
[10:33] <jatos> btw does anyone have any idea why I can't update my shipit info and order some more cd's?
[10:33] <Hoxzer> nobody is listening
[10:33] <Hoxzer> me
[10:33] <kevogod> OceanNoPontos, Only occurs when you tab complete it.
[10:33] <OceanNoPontos> name: how did you do that?
[10:33] <jatos> metacity sucks big time if you ask me
[10:33] <OceanNoPontos> (Using openbox)
[10:34] <] N[ame> I followed the guide
[10:34] <] N[ame> it was wicked eazy
[10:34] <OceanNoPontos> name: where could I find it, dude?
[10:34] <] N[ame> ill get the link
[10:34] <zenlunatic> you can't use openbox and metacity
[10:34] <OceanNoPontos> name: thanks
[10:34] <odatubuntu> does anyone know how i can setup my gamepad for soldiers of fortune?
[10:35] <] N[ame> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34239&highlight=openbox+themes
[10:35] <OceanNoPontos> zenlunatic: he replaced metacity with openbox... ;)
[10:35] <OceanNoPontos> name: thanks a lot.
[10:35] <benplaut> [breezy]  I followed normal instructions to enable codecs, but in every media player, the size of the box is correct, the length is correct, sound works, but no video
[10:35] <] N[ame> no problem
[10:35] <] N[ame> it does not work in breezy
[10:35] <] N[ame> only hoary
[10:35] <CoryK> to upgrade to breezy from 4.10 (warty?) do i just follow the steps on the wiki page, or is it a little more complicated (i remember last time i upgraded to a different version it required changing some config options...)
[10:36] <robzon> hmm there's no transcode for 64-bit processors? :/
[10:36] <Hoxzer> somebody help me with wine
[10:36] <] N[ame> but breezy is fast even with metacity
[10:36] <Hoxzer> why there is no starter guide :D
[10:36] <robzon> Hoxzer: starter guide? just open it up, drink and enjoy ;] 
[10:36] <Hoxzer> robzon: :D
[10:37] <Hoxzer> software
[10:37] <JDahl> Hoxzer, but there is starter guide! man pages
[10:37] <Hoxzer> JDahl: I dont see any
[10:37] <Octane> why the hell does a kubuntu breezy aptitude dist-upgrade want to install qt4 packages?
[10:37] <Octane> anyone have a clue?
[10:37] <CoryK> because kde is built on qt...
[10:37] <] N[ame> Octane, there may be some software that has dependancies
[10:38] <kevogod> Why does aptitude not have Super Cow Powers?
[10:38] <Octane> kevogod: sure it does
[10:38] <windex> kevogod, apt-get moo
[10:38] <windex> kevogod, aptitude moo
[10:38] <CrTr> How to open .chm ?
[10:38] <] N[ame> apt-get ftw
[10:38] <kevogod> "There are no Easter Eggs in this program."
[10:38] <CrTr> is that 4 me ?
[10:39] <Hoxzer> I mean I install it
[10:39] <Hoxzer> ....
[10:39] <Hoxzer> it is there
[10:39] <Hoxzer> but I dunno how to run it
[10:39] <Octane> frigggin openoffice.org2 aint working
[10:39] <robzon> Hoxzer: wine program.exe :)
[10:39] <kevogod> I wish they would just release it. :-)
[10:39] <nyktovus> well i cant install mplayer.. its in the repository list.. but it says there are a bunch of dependencies that cannot be installed?
[10:40] <Octane> why has there not been a good apt-get gui for KDE
[10:40] <Hoxzer> Robzon: how do I know the name of the program :E
[10:40] <Octane> kynaptic is such a pile of crapola
[10:40] <CrTr> How to open .chm ?
[10:40] <Hoxzer> I installed it to C driver
[10:40] <OceanNoPontos> your help has helped me to find how to do gnome + enlightenment. Here's the link if anyone interested:
[10:40] <OceanNoPontos> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54476&highlight=enlightenment+gnome
[10:40] <Octane> CrTr: search kde-apps.org
[10:40] <] N[ame> nyktovus, are you using breezy or hoary
[10:40] <Hoxzer> or wine's C driver
[10:40] <kevogod> OpenOffice.org needs to work on their preferences dialog.
[10:40] <Hoxzer> and Now I dont see it
[10:40] <jatos> btw, if you using wine you may want to try crossover office, its a LOT faster
[10:40] <Hoxzer> anywhere
[10:40] <Hoxzer> I dunno where is that C driver
[10:40] <robzon> Hoxzer: wine's C drive is somewhere in ~/.wine/
[10:41] <Hoxzer> robzon: and where is that wine folder?
[10:41] <robzon> Hoxzer: in your home directory
[10:41] <jjazz_> Hoxzer, locate .wine
[10:41] <Hoxzer> thx finaly :D
[10:41] <] N[ame> how do you view . files
[10:41] <odatubuntu> kevogod: sup man
[10:41] <robzon> Hoxzer: np.
[10:41] <] N[ame> I can see them in term but not in nautilus
[10:41] <robzon> ] N[ame: ctrl+h
[10:42] <] N[ame> thanks
[10:42] <robzon> np
[10:42] <nyktovus> warty
[10:42] <Octane> when I do ldd for an app, I get libz.so.1 => not found... but when i do whereis libz.so.1 it says its in /usr/lib/
[10:42] <] N[ame> sweeet
[10:42] <Octane> any idea whats going on
[10:42] <] N[ame> I spent an hour yesterday trying to see them damn files
[10:42] <] N[ame> lol
[10:43] <robzon> ] N[ame: heh :) in View menu there is "Show hidden files" :P
[10:43] <benplaut> who here is using breezy?
[10:43] <robzon> benplaut: me
[10:43] <Octane> half of us
[10:43] <OceanNoPontos> I'll logout and come back soon... let's see if it worked.
[10:43] <benplaut> do you have multimedia video codecs working?
[10:43] <CoryK> how do i upgrade from warty to breezy?
[10:44] <benplaut> wow... a full half by now...
[10:44] <benplaut> amazing
[10:44] <Octane> anyonw know what package installs libz.so.1?
[10:44] <benplaut> CoryK: not reccommended
[10:44] <robzon> Octane: try sudo ldconfig, and if it doesn't help try adding /usr/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf and running sudo ldconfig
[10:44] <Octane> robzon: thanks i already tried running ldconfig
[10:44] <CoryK> benplaut why not?
[10:44] <windex> Octane, zlib1g / zlib1g-dev ?
[10:44] <benplaut> it's a huge update
[10:44] <Octane> windex: thanks
[10:45] <benplaut> try warty to hoary, then hoar to breezy
[10:45] <benplaut> might work better
[10:45] <] N[ame> robzon,  I tried that it did not work
[10:45] <] N[ame> hrmm
[10:45] <] N[ame> the cntrl h did
[10:45] <sorush20> how do I get images to load in evoloution
[10:45] <SuperID> I'm trying to get my wireless working.  I bought a new access point and I can't get the card that worked with the old access point to associate w/ the new access point.  I think I need to edit the config file and update the channel.   Anyone know where that config file is?
[10:45] <robzon> ] N[ame: hmm that must be a bug, cause ctrl+h is just the shortcut for this :/
[10:46] <] N[ame> yeah
[10:46] <Octane> reinstalling zlib1g didnt work and neither did adding /usr/lib to ld.so.conf & running ldconfig again
[10:46] <] N[ame> I can live with it though as long as control h works
[10:46] <Octane> damn openoffice2!
[10:46] <CoryK> would upgrading from hoary to breezy through Synaptic be similar to upgrading from warty to hoary through Synaptic?
[10:47] <hondje> CoryK: It's kinda buggy right now, doing that
[10:47] <jims_> Am I in?
[10:47] <Keithg> yes
[10:47] <robzon> sorush20: in preferences, mail settings, html mail, and there you can choose when to load images
[10:47] <] N[ame> a lot of people having issues with dist-upgrade
[10:48] <jims_> Finally, getting registered was a bit obtuse for a newbie...
[10:48] <serfurj> why does ubuntu deviate from accepted linux standards?  example: http://vinelinux.org/fsstnd-1.2.txt
[10:49] <windex> serfurj, huh?
[10:49] <robzon> serfurj: 404 not found
[10:49] <windex> serfurj, for one thing, that document is from 1995. in linux terms, it might as well be 1895.
[10:50] <serfurj> windex: there's a 2.0 version
[10:50] <] N[ame> is it me or does totem suck at playing files
[10:50] <] N[ame> its very choppy
[10:50] <robzon> serfurj: and yeah, in 2.0 for example, mounting additional partitions was moved from /mnt to /media and /services was added I think...
[10:50] <pc22> i just upgraded but now i dont have internet
[10:50] <pc22> pc22 what could be wrong
[10:50] <jims_> I am having some difficulty getting Mplayer to work within Fire-fox.  When selecting a video clip, the Mplayer window opens, it shows 'loading buffer', then says 'Playing', but it is a blank window.  I have check Mplayer.conf, an the default is 'vx'.  Any suggestions?
[10:50] <erUSUL> serfurj: no linux dsitributin is 100% LSB compliant. In debian there are packages that LSBify things but still....
[10:50] <robzon> ] N[ame: try installing totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer
[10:51] <pc22> i just upgraded to breezy, but now i dont have internet, what could be wrong
[10:51] <robzon> pc22: what kind of connection?
[10:51] <] N[ame> robzon, I just compiled mplayer it works just spiffy after turning on dma for the dvd drive
[10:51] <pc22> dsl
[10:51] <serfurj> erUSUL: robzon: the symbolic links in / are especially annoying
[10:51] <pc22> lan
[10:51] <CoryK> well i'm off to do some house cleaning while warty finishes installing
[10:52] <] N[ame> CoryK, why warty thats an old release
[10:52] <windex> serfurj, they only exist to simply things for people who are used to working another way.
[10:52] <CoryK> ] N[ame because i have the cds for it
[10:52] <jjazz_> pc22 do you get your ip by dhcp from a router?
[10:52] <] N[ame> ahh
[10:52] <pc22> dhcp by router
[10:52] <nitinshantharam> can anyone help me setup a mailserver - im having a lot of problems getting it to work with virtual users
[10:52] <] N[ame> if you can try hoary its solid
[10:52] <CoryK> i was going to try obsd, but i don't know anyone that's succesfully dual-booted it with windows xp
[10:52] <robzon> serfurj: I have only 2 links, one for cdrom which isn't neccessary, and other is lib -> lib64 which I accept as it's for architecture stuff... it's not so bad
[10:53] <CoryK> ] N[ame i know hoary's solid, i used it while it was still developmental
[10:53] <CoryK> i just only have a warty cd, and i don't feel like downloading any other cds
[10:53] <robzon> pc22: hmm there should be no problem with DHCP... :/ try reactivating/reconfiguring the interface maybe..
[10:53] <pc22> jjazz_, what do i do?
[10:53] <serfurj> robzon: i have links for initrd.img, vmlinuz, and cdrom
[10:53] <serfurj> can they be deleted?
[10:54] <njs12345> nitinshantharam: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ is a pretty good tutorial
[10:54] <pc22> robzon, im new how do i do that?
[10:54] <robzon> serfurj: hmm.. I don't :P
[10:54] <] N[ame> hoary was my first distro since redhat 8 and gotta say it pwns
[10:54] <CoryK> :|
[10:54] <jjazz_> pc22, how are you normally connected to the internet?
[10:54] <CoryK> warty uses xfree86 doesn't it
[10:54] <] N[ame> no idea
[10:54] <crimsun> CoryK: yes
[10:55] <pc22> router lan
[10:55] <crimsun> CoryK: though it's much closer to X.Org than XFree86
[10:55] <] N[ame> hoary uses xorg dont it
[10:55] <pc22> dhcp
[10:55] <jims_> Anyone able to help a 'noob' get Mplayer to work within Fire-Fox?
[10:55] <crimsun> ] N[ame: yes
[10:55] <CoryK> oh well i've made the upgrade before
[10:55] <jjazz_> pc22, look in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:55] <robzon> pc22: System/Administration/Network is the graphical way...
[10:56] <crimsun> jims_: did you install mozilla-mplayer?
[10:56] <jjazz_> pc22, well, first try the easy way:  sudo ifdowth eth0; sudo ifup eth0
[10:56] <jjazz_> robzon, there's a graphical way?
[10:56] <robzon> jjazz_: yup :)
[10:56] <Keithg> horray!
[10:57] <jjazz_> robzon, I never noticed it.  Good to know.
[10:57] <CrTr> how to open .chm ??
[10:57] <moparfan90> hello everyone im back
[10:57] <nyktovus> i am installing mozilla-mplayer right now too.. and having massive issues
[10:57] <robzon> jjazz_: yeah, it's good to know, cause sometimes it's hard to explain terminal commands to newbies.. especially on phone ;)
[10:57] <] N[ame> now if I can only get the devs to may a gui interface for adding a machine to a ADS domain
[10:57] <moparfan90> bob2, are you there?
[10:58] <nyktovus> it doesnt seem to play shit.
[10:58] <Octane> anyone else here have a problem running openoffice2
[10:58] <Octane> breezy
[10:58] <jims_> crimsun: Sure... I installed it with codecs and changed default to xv per web instructions...
[10:58] <crimsun> Octane: works fine here.
[10:58] <njs12345> moparfan90: he left a while ago ;)
[10:58] <moparfan90> oo
[10:58] <robzon> Octane: runs flawlessly here...
[10:58] <Keithg> can someone tell me what they like about ubuntu, so far ive been using mandrake 10.1 community and im wanting to try out another distro so ive downloaded the ubuntu iso
[10:59] <robzon> Keithg: it just works
[10:59] <moparfan90> i am trying to make ubuntu faster does anyone have any suggestions? anything is ok
[10:59] <pc22> robzon, i went there and nic card is not the same
[10:59] <njs12345> moparfan90: faster in what way? faster boot? faster loading of apps? faster scrolling?
[10:59] <crimsun> Keithg: I think you'll just have to try it. If you're hesitant about installing it, download the live cd and boot from it.
[10:59] <njs12345> faster is entirely subjective
[10:59] <moparfan90> everything
[11:00] <nyktovus> how do you change the default player for video files..
[11:00] <pc22> robzon, how do i change it since its not listed now
[11:00] <moparfan90> i really want a faster boot but anythin to make it faster is good
[11:00] <Keithg> crimsun: ive got a second hard drive in here that i use for linux so no worries
[11:00] <nyktovus> no files seem to play anymore
[11:00] <robzon> Keithg: *easy* out-of-box solutions for most tasks... like cdrecording, movie playback, web browsing/mail.. it's much simpler than other distros I've used
[11:00] <Octane> crimsun or robzon mind pastebinning the result of ldd /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/soffice.bin
[11:00] <] N[ame> so whats the easiest way to change totem gstreamer to totem x
[11:00] <Keithg> robzon: yeah im looking for simplicity
[11:00] <robzon> Octane: I get /usr/bin/ldd: line 95: lddlibc4: command not found :/
[11:01] <Octane> i get libz.so.1 not found
[11:01] <jims_> My Mplayer version (for mozilla/firefox) is 2.7 is that the latest?
[11:01] <CoryK> CrTr have you tried xCHM?
[11:01] <Octane> which is the same error i get when i run oo2 or oo1 from cmd line
[11:01] <crimsun> Octane: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2275
[11:01] <robzon> pc22: it should be there, grayed out.. if it's not there, it seems system failed to load a module for your NIC
[11:02] <majikstreet> !help
[11:02] <robzon> Octane: hmm I can't say, cause it seems that something's wrong with ldd on 64bit system
[11:02] <robzon> Octane: I get an error in ldd itself :/
[11:02] <] N[ame> problem majikstreet ?
[11:02] <majikstreet> no
[11:02] <] N[ame> oh
[11:02] <pc22> so how do i load it
[11:02] <majikstreet> i just wanted to test out that thingy
[11:02] <] N[ame> hehe
[11:02] <] N[ame> !help
[11:02] <benplaut> ] N[ame: ubotu :P
[11:02] <robzon> pc22: what NIC do you have?
[11:02] <Octane> robzon: im on 64bit
[11:03] <robzon> Octane: oh :) well, maybe something's wrong with my ldd package then :/
[11:03] <jims_> Does anyone have any ideas how I can troubleshoot Mplayer in Fire-fox?
[11:03] <pc22> i have 2 3com
[11:03] <robzon> Octane: hmm it works with other executables.. :/
[11:04] <majikstreet> !ban
[11:04] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, majikstreet
[11:04] <robzon> pc22: do you know what models?
[11:04] <majikstreet> huh?
[11:04] <pc22> yeah
[11:04] <xlogik> Can any1 exlain how I can configure my sound apps "vlc, xmms and xine", I only can hear system sounds.
[11:04] <nitinshantharam> guys im able to send mail and login but i cant recieve mail - how can i debug this im using dovecot/sendmail
[11:04] <nyktovus> how do you set the default players for multimedia?
[11:04] <CoryK> is there a package for nasm?
[11:05] <] N[ame> can install totem-xine with totem-gstreamer still installed?
[11:05] <robzon> Octane: ok, I've got ldd to work and I don't have any missing libs
[11:05] <erUSUL> xlogik: in the apps select esd output, iguess
[11:05] <crimsun> ] N[ame: no, not if you use Ubuntu packages.
[11:05] <robzon> Octane: libz.so.1 => /usr/lib32/libz.so.1 (0x5671d000)
[11:05] <CrTr> CoryK, 10x
[11:05] <xlogik> erUSUL:ok
[11:05] <robzon> pc22: so what models are they?
[11:06] <] N[ame> in synaptic totem-gstreamer says it wants to remove ubuntu desktop if I uninstall it
[11:06] <erUSUL> ] N[ame: yes it will deinstall the former and install the later
[11:06] <robzon> ] N[ame: ubuntu-desktop is only a meta-package, you don't really need it
[11:06] <] N[ame> ahh
[11:06] <odatubuntu> crimsun: sup man
[11:06] <nyktovus> dammit.. i installed totem-xine and now wmv files come up as a slew of text on the web browser
[11:06] <] N[ame> im not using metacity
[11:07] <crimsun> odatubuntu: nm, yourself?
[11:07] <robzon> ] N[ame: it has nothing to do with metacity
[11:07] <odatubuntu> anyone have any experience with joy2key
[11:07] <majikstreet> joy2key?
[11:07] <] N[ame> oh
[11:07] <pc22> 3c905b tx 3com
[11:07] <odatubuntu> crimsun: i can't figure out how to set this thing up for soldier of fortune
[11:07] <] N[ame> so its fine to do it through synaptic?
[11:07] <pc22> robzon, 3c905b tx 3com
[11:08] <robzon> ] N[ame: meta-package is a package that doesn't contain any files, but only depends on other packages.. so you can install/upgrade group of packages with one click/command
[11:08] <robzon> ] N[ame: yes
[11:08] <crimsun> odatubuntu: not sure I follow
[11:09] <miketech> Hi all
[11:09] <odatubuntu> crimsun: well i downloaded it and installed it but i'm not sure how to configure or run it with a game     ahhh i hate that i started on a gui    lol
[11:09] <robzon> pc22: try sudo modprobe 3c59x
[11:09] <robzon> pc22: in terminal
[11:09] <miketech> just tested ubuntu breezy, very nice. but in "removable drives and media" there is for printers: gnome-printer-add . this program does not exist. maybe you meant gnome-cups-add?
[11:09] <majikstreet> odatubuntu what is joy2key?
[11:09] <moparfan90> does anyone know anything that will make my computer faster in any aspect?
[11:10] <majikstreet> moparfan90, are you on  the correct kernel?
[11:10] <crimsun> odatubuntu: using a native Linux client or using WINE/Cedega?
[11:10] <ompaul> moparfan90, ram most of likely
[11:10] <dooglus> how can I get "evolution" as an option on the gdm login screen as well as 'GNOME' and 'KDE' and such like?
[11:10] <robzon> moparfan90: dual opteron and 4GB DDR2 RAM :)
[11:10] <durt> moparfan90, use a lighter window manager
[11:10] <odatubuntu> majikstreet: it allows games that do not have a joypad option to use a gamepad
[11:10] <majikstreet> ooo..
[11:10] <moparfan90> i am using e17
[11:10] <] N[ame> ok its done
[11:10] <odatubuntu> crimsun: native linux
[11:10] <kevogod> moparfan90, Get a new CPU, more RAM, a better video card, a better motherboard, better cooling system, better hard drives set up in a RAID, etc.
[11:10] <moparfan90> i have 256mb ram and not going to buy more
[11:10] <dooglus> moparfan90: what package did you need to install to get e17 on the session menu?
[11:10] <miketech> not sure if this is a bug, but it does not work, so it couldn't be correct :)
[11:10] <LasseL> what is the nautilus equivalent to "right-click-drag" in explorer?
[11:10] <crimsun> odatubuntu: try using tab completion in a Terminal, then
[11:11] <robzon> moparfan90: yeah, RAM is very important, I'd say 512 is recommended minimum
[11:11] <moparfan90> i dont know there a tutorial on ubuntu forums search i
[11:11] <crimsun> odatubuntu: as I recall, the binary is named 'sof' or 'soldier'
[11:11] <njs12345> talk to you all later
[11:11] <robzon> pc22: see if the NIC now appears in network settings
[11:11] <psychic> Can I hibernate into a swap file instead of a swap partition?
[11:11] <odatubuntu> crimsun: i don't have a problem using SOF   i just can't figure out how to use  joy2key
[11:12] <crimsun> odatubuntu: I can't help with that. I've never heard of it much less used it.
[11:12] <moparfan90> does anyone know a way to speed up my computer with OUT buying anything?
[11:13] <pc22> robzon, thanks i just hav to reboot it
[11:13] <pc22> lol
[11:13] <odatubuntu> crimsun: do you know of any good software that will allow me to use a gamepad on games that don't support it
[11:13] <moparfan90> i think i have good hardware for ubunut
[11:13] <robzon> pc22: :)
[11:13] <LasseL> moparfan90, 256mb is too low IMHO
[11:13] <miketech> hm nobody responsible for this? *g*
[11:13] <crimsun> odatubuntu: I kinda stopped playing games about 3 years ago (no time)
[11:13] <crimsun> odatubuntu: but no, I don't
[11:13] <robzon> moparfan90: 256MB isn't good I guess...
[11:13] <dooglus> moparfan90: steal some RAM chips from the PCs at work
[11:13] <psychic> Can I hibernate into a swap file instead of a swap partition?
[11:14] <moparfan90> i dont work
[11:14] <dooglus> moparfan90: from somebody else's work then
[11:14] <moparfan90> thats why im not buying anything
[11:14] <dooglus> do you have any overalls?
[11:14] <crimsun> psychic: have you consulted Google?
[11:14] <robzon> moparfan90: get a job and then steal RAM chips :PP
[11:14] <dooglus> dress as a workman, then you can walk into any office anywhere.
[11:14] <moparfan90> lol
[11:14] <dooglus> remember to whistle a tuneless ditty as you steal stuff.
[11:15] <moparfan90> is there anything i can do to ubuntu to make it faster?
[11:15] <thenuke> moparfan90: sure, buy more decent hardware
[11:15] <odatubuntu> crimsun: k thanx anyway man
[11:15] <robzon> moparfan90: hmm I don't think so, you could use xfce, but then ubuntu loses its power
[11:15] <moparfan90> other then buy or steal or borrow
[11:16] <kevogod> moparfan90, Yes, use Gentoo.
[11:16] <LasseL> twm :)
[11:16] <moparfan90> i am using e17 that a light wieght window manager
[11:16] <moparfan90> why i though ubuntu was better
[11:17] <robzon> moparfan90: well, for me ubuntu IS better, but everything depends on taste and target use ;)
[11:17] <dooglus> if you use xfce then ubuntu has more power.  less of it goes into running Gnome, and more of it goes into your apps.
[11:17] <OceanNoPontos> hello! back, from my enlightened gnome. Wow, it is ***really MUCH*** more fast than metacity. ;)
[11:17] <LasseL> how about fluxbox isn't that even lighter
[11:17] <kevogod> Gentoo's aim is customizability and speed.
[11:17] <Ng> LasseL: yes
[11:17] <robzon> dooglus: if you use Xfce you could as well use debian... basically ubuntu is simply a very well configured gnome
[11:18] <dooglus> robzon: ubuntu is more than just gnome
[11:18] <CoryK> i want to change it from warty-security to hoary-security as well right...
[11:18] <Ng> xfce isn't exactly impressively fast on slow machines, ditching all the panel type things and going with a simple window manager will be the best option on a seriously underpowered machine ;)
[11:18] <moparfan90> is debian better then ubuntu if i use fluxbox or e17?
[11:18] <robzon> moparfan90: I don't think so
[11:18] <kevogod> Uh no
[11:18] <moparfan90> mine machine isnt bad at all
[11:19] <LasseL> moparfan90, i think damnsmalllinux is optimized for less resource usage
[11:19] <robzon> dooglus: well, I agree, but still well-configured gnome is what got ubuntu a lot (probably most) of its user base
[11:19] <moparfan90> but i like ubunut
[11:20] <moparfan90> ubuntu*
[11:20] <OceanNoPontos> robzon: I have changed from KDE to gnome thanks to Ubuntu and Mono. ;)
[11:20] <thellama> what is it, drary drake?
[11:20] <] N[ame> dapper drake
[11:20] <robzon> OceanNoPontos: yeah, me too, actually.. ;)
[11:20] <thellama> OceanNoPontos: me too!
[11:20] <] N[ame> the next version of ubuntu
[11:21] <thellama> ah yes, dapper drake
[11:21] <thellama> thanks
[11:21] <kevogod> The version after Dapper Drake is Foxy Fox.
[11:21] <thellama> really?
[11:21] <kevogod> No.
[11:21] <thellama> heh
[11:21] <LasseL> moparfan90, a 512mb is $50 tops, save up or suck it up :p
[11:21] <psychic> Does ubuntu 5.10 use suspend2?
[11:22] <kevogod> 2x512 MB DDR400 memory is $80.
[11:22] <moparfan90> i dont think that will make my computer that much faster
[11:22] <kevogod> moparfan90, Then you would be wrong.
[11:22] <moparfan90> if i had that much ram id go to windows
[11:22] <moparfan90> for games
[11:22] <thellama> they should call it lucky llama
[11:22] <thellama> lazy llama
[11:23] <LasseL> moparfan90, in my expirience ubuntu takes up more resources than windows 2000 did
[11:23] <moparfan90> o realy
[11:23] <robzon> moparfan90: yeah, well... you have to choose.. either spend 50 bucks and have ubuntu's gnome, or use a lighter desktop envitonment... there's nothing you can do to tweak performance.. maybe a little, but that's probably not what you expect
[11:23] <mlopes> hi. does anyone know what to change to the NFS configuration so it can be accessible be another machine with iptables?
[11:23] <moparfan90> i already have a light wieght window manager
[11:23] <LasseL> moparfan90, i certainly feel the urge to upgrade my memory after switching from w2k to ubuntu
[11:23] <stein> Where can I see the list of packages for breezy ? (I'm interested if ndiswraper is included and what version)
[11:24] <BOOMSHOT> sup guys...Using Ubuntu n luvin it....question. (newbie): I want to use Klibido in Ubuntu, how do I install it?
[11:24] <robzon> stein: System/Administration/Synaptic
[11:24] <LasseL> moparfan90, try fluxbox
[11:24] <erUSUL> moparfan90:  enlightment is not what i would  call lightweight
[11:24] <stein> robzon: I'm not running Ubuntu right now ;-)
[11:24] <robzon> stein: packages.ubuntu.com I think
[11:25] <moparfan90> ooo
[11:25] <stein> 10x
[11:25] <moparfan90> will that make my computer alot faster?
[11:25] <LasseL> moparfan90, no, somewhat
[11:25] <moparfan90> noticable
[11:26] <moparfan90> ???//
[11:26] <BOOMSHOT> ne1 installed Klibido successfully & used it with .nzb files
[11:26] <nictuku> hi. I'm almost sure there is something wrong with my mozilla. Either firefox or mozilla.
[11:26] <robzon> moparfan90: you'll get more RAM for running apps and faster window manager
[11:26] <dvm_> Greetings, if I think I've found a character encoding bug in firefox, where should I go to report this?
[11:26] <BOOMSHOT> (newbie) having probs installing in Ubuntu
[11:26] <robzon> BOOMSHOT: what klibido?
[11:26] <] N[ame> is mplayer independant of xine?
[11:27] <BOOMSHOT> newsreader
[11:27] <moparfan90> whats better (faster and nicer looking)   fluxbox or xfce
[11:27] <erUSUL> dvm_: bugzilla in mozilla ;)
[11:27] <BOOMSHOT> robzon: regular .deb won't install in Ubuntu
[11:28] <BOOMSHOT> followed instructions on Ubuntu forum...still no go
[11:28] <nictuku> I have a monitoring station that only shows two monitors with two mozilla browsers running on it. After a few days running, it ALWAYS gets very strange and start to take all my system's resources. I would guess there is a memory leak or something like that.
[11:28] <robzon> ] N[ame: yes
[11:28] <] N[ame> robzon, so I can have both with out an issue
[11:28] <] N[ame> ?
[11:28] <BOOMSHOT> r can u recommend a vgood newsreader that can use .nzb files from Newzbin.com
[11:29] <] N[ame> because totem xine has lines in it during dvd playback
[11:29] <] N[ame> during fast action
[11:29] <robzon> ] N[ame: yes you can use both
[11:30] <robzon> BOOMSHOT: sorry, I don't know any newsreaders
[11:30] <BOOMSHOT> k thx
[11:30] <hondje> pan is nice
[11:30] <erUSUL> nictuku: known issue you have to set a limit in memory usage in a window visit about:config and set browser.cache.memory.capacity
[11:30] <erUSUL> to somethin that suits you
[11:30] <BOOMSHOT> does it recognize .nzb files?
[11:30] <hondje> I dunno what that is
[11:30] <hondje> but I bet there might be some list of supported things on their website
[11:31] <BOOMSHOT> roger that...Ne1 ever installed nzbget in Ubuntu?
[11:31] <nictuku> erUSUL. Interesting. Thank you very much. But is that a bug or expected?
[11:31] <LasseL> right-click-drag in explorer is middle-click-drag in nautilus
[11:32] <erUSUL> nictuku: i think that is a bug the cache should not grow forever but right now it is this way
[11:33] <nictuku> but, would the cache grows if it's just reloading the same page?
[11:33] <lars__> Hi @ all
[11:33] <andelgado> anyone? i need help
[11:33] <BOOMSHOT> hey
[11:34] <Seveas> hi lars__ :)
[11:34] <hondje> Anyone up to helping me get beagle working?
[11:34] <lars__> I've got a question
[11:34] <hondje> I think it hates me
[11:34] <Xorlev> Okay, advice. I have a 120gb Windows drive, and a 40gb Linux drive. I use Linux completely, but I'm not sure if I want to format my Windows drive, but I need the space. Should I format it?
[11:34] <badders> anyone know if there is an easy way to get a list of packages that are installed, but not directly or indirectly dependencies of ubuntu-desktop?
[11:34] <erUSUL> nictuku: i do not know :( maybe there is actually a bug...
[11:34] <lars__> I'm trying to setup a ftp server
[11:34] <hondje> Which is lame, since my nick is totally beagle-friendly
[11:34] <lars__> but i can't find the file :S
[11:34] <Seveas> hondje, beagle is quite a territorial dog, it can't stand other hondjes around :)
[11:34] <robzon> lars__: uncomment ftp line in /etc/inetd.conf
[11:34] <hondje> Seveas: hehe :)
[11:35] <andelgado> windows-based yahoo messenger allows user to view webcams of chat mates. can it be done with GAIM?
[11:35] <moparfan90> Seveas, do you know any way to speed up ubuntu in any aspect with out buying anythin?
[11:35] <LasseL> Xorlev, you could resize the windows drive and create a shared partition for data
[11:35] <erUSUL> Xorlev: you at least have to create a linux compatible filesystem in the partition (ext3)
[11:35] <robzon> lars__: ok I lied, there is no ftp line in inetd.conf in ubuntu :P
[11:35] <hondje> When I run beagled --foreground it goes along for a little bit until I get '** (beagled:10386): WARNING **: FIXME: wait for completion unimplemented
[11:35] <hondje> '
[11:35] <Seveas> moparfan90, using fluxbox instead of another DE helps
[11:35] <andelgado> windows-based yahoo messenger allows user to view webcams of chat mates. can it be done with GAIM?
[11:35] <lars__> haha okay :P
[11:35] <hondje> gaim-vv
[11:35] <robzon> lars__: install proftpd
[11:35] <ai-2> lars__: how is it possible is there a program i need to install to be able to see my windows partition?
[11:35] <moparfan90> Seveas, im using e17 is that good or still use fluxbox?
[11:35] <robzon> lars__: and then look at /etc/proftpd.conf
[11:35] <lars__> yeah i can't get proftpd
[11:35] <lars__> Yeah i know :)
[11:36] <Seveas> moparfan90, it's not bad speed-wise
[11:36] <erUSUL> hondje: if its only a WARNING there is no problem :D
[11:36] <Xorlev> LasseL: I could, and I know about fat partitions and such, I'm just looking for advice: should I format, or not. If I do, what should I mount it as? Perhaps move my home directory on it and mount it there?
[11:36] <robzon> lars__: why can't you get it?
[11:36] <andelgado> windows-based yahoo messenger allows user to view webcams of chat mates. can it be done with GAIM?
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> depends on what you want from a GUI
[11:36] <hondje> erUSUL: But it dies at that warning
[11:36] <lsuactiafner> i dont want to notice it, so i use blackbox, got my menus and my 3 virtual desktops and i'm happy
[11:36] <lars__> when i'm doing this in konsole : sudo apt-get install proftpd
[11:36] <ai-2> lars__: could you please answer it is very important, thanks in advance
[11:37] <LasseL> Xorlev, i belive you can read and write ext3 from windows if you get a driver for it
[11:37] <robertbb> does rhythmbox support ipods?
[11:37] <hondje> oh, I bet they have their own chan on the gnome server
[11:37] <moparfan90> Seveas, sould i use flux box or stay the way i have it?
[11:37] <lars__> he's saying that he can't find it
[11:37] <andelgado> anyone, pls. windows-based yahoo messenger allows user to view webcams of chat mates. can it be done with GAIM?
[11:37] <lsuactiafner> ai-2 : no, you just need to mount it
[11:37] <robzon> ai-2: you don't need any additional software
[11:37] <hondje> andelgado: not really, no
[11:37] <erUSUL> Xorlev: yes it is a good idea. when you run mkext2fs you are formating the partition anyway
[11:37] <lsuactiafner> ai-2 : is the windows partiion on the same physical disk as linux?
[11:37] <LasseL> Xorlev, and if you do format, be sure to watch out not to loose your boot loader
[11:38] <Xorlev> LasseL: Its not a question of can I mount ext3 from Windows...I don't use Windows at all anymore. I'm just hesitant to format away Windows, so its more of a philisophical advice.
[11:38] <opo> Anyone know of an way to rip 4,000 audio cd's in a less tedious manner?
[11:38] <robzon> lars__: hmm that's weird cause it's in the repository.. try doing it thru synaptic
[11:38] <lfelipe> Hi, has anyone had any problems installing nvidia-glx-legacy on breezy ?? I'm getting a conflict with libmesa, and I have no idea what I can do about it
[11:38] <robzon> lars__: or do sudo apt-get update
[11:38] <Xorlev> LasseL: I boot from GRUB on my Linux drive, there is no problems I can see.
[11:38] <lsuactiafner> ai-2 : sudo fdisk -l ; sudo mkdir /mnt/windows
[11:38] <andelgado> thanks hondje. so is it possible to chat in linux that allows viewing of webcams of chatmates?
[11:38] <LasseL> Xorlev, I am in the same dilemma, I decided to leave 20gb free for a possible future windows installation ...
[11:38] <erUSUL> opo: yes p2p aplication and a dedicated t1 line XD
[11:38] <lsuactiafner> ai-2 : with fdisk -l you will see /dev/something and info specifying its a windows partiion
[11:39] <lfelipe> opo : download some batch encoder that uses cddb, and then you can just keep changing the cds. There should be some bash scripts to do that
[11:39] <moparfan90> Seveas, if install fluxbox and get rid of that gnome login thing and all gnome will that make it alot faster?
[11:39] <lars__> No it makes no diffrence :S
[11:39] <opo> erUSUL : haha
[11:39] <lsuactiafner> ai-2 : then mount /dev/something /mnt/windows
[11:39] <hondje> ooooh, xchat-gnome is nice
[11:39] <lsuactiafner> ai-2 : then cd /mnt/windows andyou will see your windows files..
[11:39] <Xorlev> LasseL: Good advice, I could do that. Leave 15-20gb free for if I ever want to reinstall Windows, and the rest ext3.
[11:40] <andelgado> xchat supports viewing of webcams of chat mates?
[11:40] <robzon> lars__: weird.. I have it in the repository :/
[11:40] <lfelipe> Hi, has anyone had any problems installing nvidia-glx-legacy on breezy ?? I'm getting a conflict with libmesa, and I have no idea what I can do about it
[11:40] <lsuactiafner> moparfan90 : i disbaled gdm and gnome things ect. yes its faster, but if you dont know what you're doing in linux gnome will be easier to use
[11:40] <SuperQ> andelgado: there might be a video chat version of gaim
[11:40] <lsuactiafner> lfelipe : why are you installing nvidia-glx-legacy?
[11:40] <erUSUL> lfelipe: uninstall mesa
[11:41] <moparfan90> wqelllsuactiafner, im already using e17 so by disabling that willi gain any speed?
[11:41] <LasseL> Xorlev, yeah or minimize your current windows version so it will fit in 15gig keep it and use the rest for ext3
[11:41] <serfurj> what's the name of a gnome menu editor?
[11:41] <lfelipe> erUSUL, uninstalling mesa also uninstall alot of packages that depend on it
[11:41] <caspar> is crimsun here?
[11:41] <LasseL> serfurj, smeg
[11:41] <andelgado> SuperQ: where can i find it? standard OS installers don't have?
[11:41] <lfelipe> lsuactiafner : to use the accelerated X for my video card (nvidia riva tnt 2)
[11:41] <ai-2> lsuactiafner: iam not able to see my windows files
[11:41] <SuperQ> Angel-SL: let me look.. i'm kinda laged right now
[11:41] <serfurj> LasseL: what apt source is that in?
[11:41] <SuperQ> andelgado: erm... yea
[11:41] <moparfan90> lsuactiafner, im already using e17 if i disable gnome and that crap will i gain spped?
[11:42] <caspar> crimsun are you active ? i have a problem with my microphone
[11:42] <LasseL> serfurj, try first, then ask :p
[11:42] <crimsun> caspar: what sort?
[11:42] <lsuactiafner> moparfan90 : blackbox + fluxbox is faster, but not as functional by default.
[11:42] <serfurj> LasseL: i did.  it's not in ubuntu, universe, or multiverse
[11:42] <lsuactiafner> moparfan90 : and if you ask me the same question twice i will kick you ass.
[11:42] <lsuactiafner> not really since i dont know where you libe
[11:42] <moparfan90> lsuactiafner, no you wont
[11:42] <lsuactiafner> but you get the idea..
[11:42] <Xorlev> LasseL: Part of the reason I switched to Linux was because Windows was broken, so I'm copying my important files over to my Linux drive, and nuking the whole thing, but leaving 20gb or so for Windows if I decide to reinstall it.
[11:42] <andelgado> SuperQ: i'm a bit slow. what's erm, as you said
[11:43] <caspar> crimsun: i have 2 mic inputs but it only cee's one and i cannot use the one where my mic is pluged into :S
[11:43] <lsuactiafner> moparfan90 : just check it out, see what you prefer.
[11:43] <ai-2> mount /dev/dev/hda1 /mnt/windows/
[11:43] <ai-2> mount: special device /dev/dev/hda1 does not exist
[11:43] <Xorlev> ai-2: its /dev/hda1, not /dev/dev/hda1
[11:43] <robzon> ai-2: only one /dev
[11:43] <moparfan90> lsuactiafneri used fluxbox before and i like e17 better
[11:43] <hondje> Is beagled supposed to keep running in the background after you launch it?
[11:43] <lsuactiafner> ai-2 : /dev/hda1
[11:43] <SuperQ> andelgado: i'm online via cell network.. kinda slow
[11:43] <lsuactiafner> moparfan90 : so whats the problem then, it you prefer a nice looking GUI to speed use e17
[11:43] <ai-2> thanks
[11:44] <caspar> crimsun: do you know annyting about that?
[11:44] <LasseL> serfurj, it is in hoary-backports
[11:44] <moparfan90> lsuactiafner, can i make ubuntu boot faster?
[11:44] <serfurj> LasseL: thanks
[11:44] <annex> I have a xinerama setup with a modern Nvidia card and an old ATI card.  Previously using Xfree86 whenever OpenGL applications (e.g. Unreal Tournament) would run in full screen they would only be displayed on the Nvidia card.  Installing Ubuntu and Xorg, OpenGL applications now try to run half on either monitor when fullscreen.  How can I make it so only the Nvidia card is used for OpenGL applications?  I don't see any difference in my X configs 
[11:44] <LasseL> serfurj, and in the mirrormax backports
[11:44] <SuperQ> andelgado: is there a specific chat program you want to use with video?
[11:44] <Kromonos> gn8
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> moparfan90 : yeh, but dont follow my advice, @ all.. nobody shoudl, but disabling crap in /etc/init.d/ like ntpdate will make it much faster
[11:45] <lsuactiafner> chmod -x script will dsiable it
[11:45] <lsuactiafner> chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate works wonders..
[11:45] <lsuactiafner> but dont do it..
[11:45] <moparfan90> lsuactiafner, why
[11:45] <crimsun> caspar: paste the output from ''amixer'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:45] <moparfan90> lsuactiafner, i already did
[11:45] <andelgado> i just want to be with yahoo chat (messenger), which i usually do in windows. and i can easily view webcams of others.
[11:45] <erUSUL> lsuactiafner: the correct way of doing this is with update-rc.d remove <whatever>
[11:46] <andelgado> SuperQ: I didn't get what u mean of ... erm
[11:46] <SuperQ> andelgado: nothing..
[11:46] <lsuactiafner> moparfan90 : because i'm just telling you not do it to avoid being flamed..
[11:46] <nitinshantharam> guys i was following te email server tutorial http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ and it says type ehlo anywhere.org and i should see some lines displayed - but it just stays there i get no output
[11:46] <GatoLoko> hi
[11:46] <SuperQ> andelgado: what is the other person you are trying to talk to using?
[11:46] <unf> ola
[11:46] <caspar> crimsun: done
[11:46] <lsuactiafner> erUSUL : chmod works better, since its easier to enbale something again when need be ect
[11:46] <shekhar_> hello all, i need some help reviving my windows partition after ubuntu installation
[11:47] <SuperQ> andelgado: AIM? ICQ?
[11:47] <andelgado> SuperQ: yahoo messenger, in windows
[11:47] <SuperQ> ok
[11:47] <nictuku> nitinshantharam, check /var/log/mail.log
[11:47] <erUSUL> lsuactiafner: the correct way of doing this is with update-rc.d defaults <whatever>
[11:47] <lfelipe>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libGL.so.1', which is also in package libgl1-mesa
[11:47] <LasseL> lsuactiafner, wouldn't ntpupdate be better suited for a cron.weekly anyways ?
[11:47] <SmokinWeed_420> http://www.planetbattleground.com/recruit.php?id=273
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> erUSUL : but its not as functional. its easier to admin to go ls /etc/init.d/ and to enable/disbale ect
[11:47] <andelgado> SuperQ: i don't see any option to view webcam of chatmates in XChat.
[11:47] <nitinshantharam> nictuku: it says fatal: unsupported dictionary type: mysql
[11:48] <andelgado> SuperQ: so, any suggestions regarding my need?
[11:48] <lsuactiafner> LasseL : ntpupdate runs on every boot. and since not all ppl are on networks it times out after line a minute
[11:48] <ai-2> lsuactiafner: i get permission denied if i try to open it with ubuntu file browser.
[11:48] <Abdul_Mueid> hello everyone!
[11:48] <SuperQ> andelgado: no
[11:48] <erUSUL> lsuactiafner: actually remove or defaults goes after <whatever> sorry
[11:48] <lsuactiafner> scripts should run with & in the background, execute everything @ the same time..
[11:48] <nictuku> nitinshantharam apt-get install postfix-mysql
[11:48] <ai-2> with command line it is okay
[11:48] <xTina> lfelipe: afaik the developers know about this one
[11:48] <robzon> alright, gotta go do some coding.. see ya'll later
[11:48] <LasseL> lsuactiafner, i understand, but that wasn't my question
[11:49] <xTina> lfelipe: the nvidia-glx-legacy package is still very new, just a few days old.
[11:49] <crimsun> caspar: you have a 'Mic Select' element that you should be able to toggle to select the microphone to use
[11:49] <lsuactiafner> ai-2 : chmod a+rw /mnt/windows/    <-- might not work as i think it will
[11:49] <lfelipe> xTina, is there anything I can do ?
[11:49] <lfelipe> something like a forced update ?
[11:49] <Seveas> ai-2, *will* not work
[11:49] <erUSUL> lsuactiafner: what is the diference between running 'update-rc.d ntpdate remove' and chmod -x /etc/init.d/ntpdate
[11:49] <andelgado> So, no way to videochat in linux? yahoo messenger for linux doesnt have option for this purpose too.
[11:49] <haasteem> how can i see what is the device name of my soundcard?
[11:49] <Seveas> chmod is not effective on windows filesystems
[11:49] <GatoLoko> someone have freepascal working with breezy?
[11:50] <crimsun> haasteem: "device name"?
[11:50] <Seveas> haasteem, probably /dev/dsp
[11:50] <nybble> hmm
[11:50] <ai-2> chmod a+rw /mnt/windows/
[11:50] <ai-2> chmod: changing permissions of `/mnt/windows/': Read-only file system
[11:50] <nybble> anyone familiar with encrypted filesystems?
[11:50] <haasteem> seveas: ok, let me have a look
[11:50] <Seveas> ai-2, you need correct mount options
[11:50] <SuperQ> andelgado: http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html#debian
[11:50] <SuperQ> andelgado: you need that
[11:50] <erUSUL> lsuactiafner: i find both quite the same in typing but one is right (tm) and the other not
[11:50] <Seveas> add umask=0000 to these options
[11:50] <ai-2> what is that Seveas:?
[11:51] <Seveas> ai-2, how did you mmount the drive?
[11:51] <SuperQ> andelgado: oh.. maybe that doesn't support video
[11:51] <benplaut> [breezy]  I followed normal instructions to enable codecs, but in every media player, the size of the box is correct, the length is correct, sound works, but no video
[11:51] <andelgado> SuperQ: i downloaded it. But it doesnt have option to view webcam either.
[11:51] <SuperQ> andelgado: yea.. I think you're SOL
[11:51] <ai-2>  mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows/
[11:51] <SuperQ> andelgado: sorry
[11:51] <neighborlee> anyone know a way out of a problem with thunderbird, where the email app does not give you opportunity to retype password if enterered wrong ???
[11:52] <jims_> Can anyone help me with Mplayer?  When I open a file, I get a pop-up window that's titled "Fatal Error".  It says "Error opening/initializing the selected video_out device".  I am using the default configuration without changes.  Totem and Xine_ui work OK...
[11:52] <xTina> lfelipe: I _think_ you can safely replace the file (--force-overwrite when using dpkg), though I haven't tried it.
[11:52] <andelgado> SuperQ: so, no application in linux yet allowing viewing of cams? does it mean linux users are stuck to typing online in chatting?
[11:52] <ai-2> Seveas  mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows/
[11:52] <ORiON2012> andelgado: GnomeMeeting and Skype are worth checking out
[11:52] <xTina> lfelipe: The other alternative would be waiting a few days until a fixed package is available.
[11:52] <nitinshantharam> nictuku: istill same problem
[11:52] <GatoLoko> andelgado gnomemeeting
[11:53] <PlanarPlatypus> neighborlee, I think it is in tools->options-> advanced
[11:53] <robzon> andelgado: gnomemeeting, I think skype has video, doesn't it?
[11:53] <elvirolo> hi all
[11:53] <erUSUL> andelgado: well there's gnomemeeting
[11:53] <haasteem> seveas: dull question maybe, how can i look at /dev/dsp?
[11:53] <Seveas> ai-2, dp you want it to be mounted every time you boot?
[11:53] <nictuku> nitinshantharam restart postfix
[11:53] <Seveas> haasteem, with a microscope...
[11:53] <Seveas> define 'look at'
[11:53] <haasteem> :-)
[11:53] <erUSUL> Seveas: :D
[11:53] <haasteem> open the file
[11:53] <elvirolo> god, i *still* have that menu prob with breezy (i've been having it for weeks ... even if i did several fresh installs)
[11:53] <andelgado> k. i'll see if it can be connect to chatrooms of yahoo and view webcams in it. thanks
[11:53] <lars__> robzon you've got any idea how it's gone work ?
[11:53] <el_besugo> open dps?
[11:53] <GatoLoko> andelgado the cvs version of amsn support messenger webcam
[11:53] <elvirolo> many entries do not appear in my kde menu
[11:54] <Seveas> haasteem, that would be.... odd
[11:54] <nitinshantharam> nictuku: no difference
[11:54] <caspar> crimsun: ok the mic dous work (but now TeamSpeak dousen :S)
[11:54] <Seveas> why do you want that?
[11:54] <samu2> anyone managed to print out the week view in evolution with a "landscape" layout?
[11:54] <PlanarPlatypus> neighborlee, go to saved passwords and then viw saved passwords and remove the one in question
[11:54] <robzon> lars__: hmm, I've lost the point... what was it..?
[11:54] <samu2> i just cant get it to print the way i want it
[11:54] <el_besugo> perhaps he wants to see digital sound
[11:54] <andelgado> ty GatoLoko
[11:54] <ai-2> well Seveas: i only want to be able to run my movies and programs in windows partition, and right now iam able to do that from the command line but not graphically, because vlc wont run audio on my movies
[11:54] <samu2> is there an irc channel for evolution?
[11:54] <haasteem> seveas: i want to know the device name of my sound card
[11:54] <Seveas> ai-2: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[11:54] <erUSUL> haasteem: from a C program  open("/dev/dsp", rw) if i recall correctly
[11:55] <Seveas> erUSUL, you did not ;)
[11:55] <erUSUL> haasteem: ls -al /dev/snd/
[11:55] <walde> How can I ubuntu tell, to install the kernel source of the ubuntu-kernel automatically?
[11:55] <ai-2> Seveas is it possible with apt-get ?
[11:55] <Seveas> ai-2, no
[11:55] <Snoblower> anybody want to show a complete noob how to properly install ubuntu?
[11:55] <andelgado> skype, and gnomemeeting, where can i get it?
[11:55] <erUSUL> Seveas: :(
[11:55] <Seveas> it's a simple script, download it and run it
[11:55] <haasteem> erusul: ok, let me try that
[11:55] <andelgado> i found gnomemeeting
[11:55] <walde> andelgado, at skype.com, gnomemeeting should be installable via apt
[11:55] <el_besugo> Snoblower: there are a lot of howtos online
[11:56] <walde> andelgado, sorry, synaptic
[11:56] <andelgado> thanks walde
[11:56] <erUSUL> haasteem: you will see the devices asociated with your soundcard/s there
[11:56] <robzon> andelgado: gnomemeeting is in ubuntu and skype has no package cause it's non-open-source, you have to download it from skype.com
[11:56] <walde> andelgado, installing of skype.com is also very easy. You can start it directly from your home if you download the static version
[11:56] <andelgado> perhaps gnomemeeting is similar to microsoft netmeeting? i'll try it
[11:57] <erUSUL> andelgado: you are right
[11:57] <andelgado> is skype free too? license free?
[11:57] <nictuku> free as in free beer
[11:57] <ai-2> Seveas it is a bash script, what to do with it?
[11:57] <sm1> do we have something like itunes or ippoder easy to install in ubuntu?
[11:57] <LasseL> andelgado, and don't forget: if you are in china it is illegal to get naked in front of your webcamera :p
[11:57] <erUSUL> andelgado: free as in beer but not free as in speech
[11:57] <erUSUL> ai-2: run it?
[11:58] <andelgado> your all cool guys.
[11:58] <ai-2> erUSUL not able to run it
[11:58] <caspar> crimsun: thx
[11:58] <andelgado> gonna try gnomemeeting right now....
[11:58] <nitinshantharam> nictuku: no difference
[11:58] <caspar> bye bye all
[11:58] <ai-2> i can only se the source
[11:58] <jims_> Is there another channel that can help with mplayer?
[11:58] <erUSUL> ai-2: sudo sh <script>.sh
[11:59] <nictuku> nitinshantharam, sorry, if you say installing postfix-mysql won't fix your lack of support for mysql in postfix, then I don't have a clue :)
[11:59] <elvirolo> how do i use alsa in breezy in order to be able to play "multiple sounds" ?
[11:59] <nitinshantharam> nictuku: no i mean, EHLO somewehre.com doesnt give me any output and theres nothign in /var/log/maillog
[11:59] <crimsun> elvirolo: it's set that way by default for the first sound card
[11:59] <LasseL> elvirolo, that is a l33t feature, not everyone can get that
[12:00] <nictuku> it's /var/log/mail.log
[12:00] <crimsun> elvirolo: just make sure that you haven't created your own ~/.asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf