[12:04] Riddell, you already do have access to katapult svn [12:04] Mez: berlios svn+ssh doesn't like my password [12:04] lol [12:05] ? [12:05] I cant do anything if that's the case [12:05] you should have access it's all set up this end [12:08] hmm, suspect it's a ssh key issue then [12:08] refreshed. 6 hours to see if it'll work [12:12] lol [12:12] just upload your key through the wenbsite [12:12] or something [12:12] or use your berlios password [12:12] if your berlios and your ssh key are different, try both [12:12] I can never teell the sdifference between ther prompts for them [12:19] Mez: could you apt-get install kde-guidance and see if the modules appear in systemsettings? [12:19] or anyone else who is still awake [12:20] do an apt-get update first [12:23] :/ [12:23] I wish I could [12:24] Tm_T: why can't you? [12:25] lack of proper connection [12:25] what's improper about it? [12:25] gprs in windows machine [12:26] Riddell: breezy ok? [12:26] meaning, 3kt/s laggy unstable connection, and I can't get this working in linux :/ [12:26] kt ? [12:26] kb [12:27] I hope I get my adsl soon [12:27] what am i looking for in system settings riddell? [12:31] Mez: three extra (pixelated) icons in the bottom row [12:31] The following extra packages will be installed: [12:31] python-kde3 python2.4-kde3 python2.4-qt3 python2.4-sip4-qt3 [12:31] Suggested packages: [12:31] python-qt3-doc [12:31] The following NEW packages will be installed: [12:31] python-kde3 python2.4-kde3 python2.4-qt3 python2.4-sip4-qt3 [12:31] The following packages will be upgraded: [12:31] kde-guidance [12:31] 1 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded. [12:32] mm hmm [12:33] Riddell: I dont know if they're extra, buyt I have 2 pixelated icons on the bottom row [12:33] actually [12:33] 3 [12:33] disk and filesystemes, users and groups, and system services [12:33] groovy [12:33] thanks [12:33] though [12:33] actually try clicking on one, see if it complains [12:33] "the module systemservices could not be loaded" [12:33] gah [12:34] "library files for libpython2.4.so" not in path [12:35] what happens when you run serviceconfig from the command line? [12:35] one sec [12:36] you just need a Depends: python2.4-dev [12:36] i installed it and it works now [12:36] huh? [12:36] I just ran [12:36] weird, what does that add? [12:36] /usr/lib/libpython2.4.so [12:37] :P [12:38] mez@apathy:~$ dpkg -L python2.4-dev | grep so [12:38] /usr/lib/python2.4/doc/tools/mksourcepkg [12:38] /usr/include/python2.4/classobject.h [12:38] /usr/lib/python2.4/config/libpython2.4.so [12:38] /usr/lib/libpython2.4.so [12:38] mez@apathy:~$ [12:38] I'm really confused as to how I knew that would work .... [12:38] o_O === |apokryp| [n=apokryph@host-84-9-34-234.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:55] Riddell, gpg --export-key --armor keyid | apt-key add - [12:58] Mez: mmm, now I just need to work out how to correcly sign these things [12:58] Apt-repos? [12:59] I can help with that [12:59] It's not that hard [12:59] but it's a shame you dont have my old one [01:00] do you have your old Packages.gz thing? [01:00] I used that as my base script :D [01:01] old Packages.gz thing? [01:01] the thing that for hoary-341 used to generate the packages.gz for you [01:02] http://kubuntu.org/kde35beta1/ARCHIVE [01:04] Ridell: thats near enough right... [01:05] except you just need a couple of things at the top to set the distro and stuff right for the Release files [01:05] Mez: you're some kind of wizard? :o [01:06] ;p [01:06] Tm_T ??? [01:06] joking :p [01:06] yeah, i know, I just didnt get it [01:07] Origin: Ubuntu [01:07] Label: Ubuntu [01:07] Suite: hoary-backports [01:07] Version: 5.04 [01:07] Codename: hoary [01:07] Architectures: i386 amd64 powerpc [01:07] Components: main restricted universe multiverse [01:07] Description: Ubuntu Hoary Backports [01:07] that sort of thing [01:07] never saw riddell asking help before, I think you are precious to us, very good :) [01:08] lol - Riddell asks for help a lot of the times [01:09] I always ask Mez for help, he's my saviour [01:09] but, usually it's just on those little annoyi9ng things that you cant learn unless somone tells you, or you've done it before [01:09] lol [01:09] and usually, I've done it before [01:09] good to have you here :) [01:09] Riddell, you trying to get me to buy your drinks at UBZ? :P [01:11] Riddell: I'm actually going to have a shufty through the apt-ftparchive man page- do you have anywhere I can rsync that archive? [01:13] http://kubuntu.org/~jr/kde35beta1.tar.gz [01:13] 363MB [01:14] Length: 419,154,234 (400M) [application/x-tar] [01:14] mm, yes [01:15] Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/kde35beta1/dists/breezy/Release Unable to find expected entry main/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) [01:15] that's not good [01:16] yeah [01:16] one sec [01:16] uh, that's not good [01:16] I mean, when Riddell says "that's not good" ;p [01:17] like "you never wanna hear your sysadmin saying 'nice smoke'" [01:18] Ridell: if you have packages.bz2/packages.gz - you still need your regular packages aswell [01:18] well, I'm sure worse things could happen [01:18] Mez: don't see why, I've never had to have a Packages file before it was signed [01:19] ridell: have you just added it in? [01:19] or was it there before? [01:20] W: Conflicting distribution: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release (expected breezy but got ) [01:20] I just added it [01:20] now I get an all new error [01:22] one sec [01:22] did you manually generate that RElease file? [01:23] no [01:23] used the command in that ARCHIVE script [01:23] along with the apt.conf file [01:24] aah, hang on [01:25] ah, you've managed to get an apt.conf working [01:25] you should just have that in seperate bits though === m-fox [n=m-fox@port-212-202-8-119.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:26] think it's all sorted now [01:26] at least for breezy [01:27] hello m-fox [01:27] W: Conflicting distribution: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release (expected breezy but got ) [01:27] hi [01:27] W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A506E6D4DD4D5088 Jonathan Riddell [01:28] Mez: try and apt-get update [01:28] I'm getting that error [01:28] W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A506E6D4DD4D5088 Jonathan Riddell [01:28] you probably need my key [01:29] I do have it [01:29] in apt? [01:29] mez@apathy:~$ sudo apt-key list [01:29] /etc/apt/trusted.gpg [01:29] -------------------- [01:29] pub 1024D/437D05B5 2004-09-12 [01:29] uid Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key [01:29] sub 2048g/79164387 2004-09-12 [01:29] pub 1024D/FBB75451 2004-12-30 [01:30] uid Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Signing Key [01:30] pub 1024D/496242EC 2005-08-05 [01:30] uid Martin Meredith (Archive Signing Key) [01:30] pub 1024D/DD4D5088 2001-10-09 [01:30] uid Jonathan Riddell [01:30] uid Jonathan Riddell [01:30] uid Jonathan Riddell (University Address) [01:30] sub 1024g/D9F04547 2001-10-09 [01:30] fixed now [01:30] but your deb-src is still ballsed [01:31] Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/kde35beta1/dists/breezy/Release Unable to find expected entry main/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) [01:31] isa it safe to update to 3.5 in breezy? [01:32] or right, need to do the Sources as well (and hoary) [01:32] s/or/oh/ [01:32] yes, 3.5 seems pretty safe [01:32] wehats now? [01:32] new * [01:33] it's officially betya now? [01:33] it's not been released yet [01:34] but, thats the beta? [01:34] yes [01:35] unless the beta stuff is changed for the qt 3.3.5 brokenness [01:35] tsk tsk [01:35] lol [01:35] why tsk? [01:35] you shouldnt be giving it out [01:35] dont you have an NDA? :P [01:35] it's not linked from anywhere [01:36] lol [01:36] I bet you I can find somewhere [01:37] http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/kubuntu-devel-current.html [01:37] :P === Mez upgrades anyways [01:41] I thought september 13th was the beta release date? [01:41] brb [01:41] friday 13th ... === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:44] a few noticeable changes [01:45] KDE 3.4.91? [01:45] yep [01:45] lol [01:45] the task manager is gonna take a little getting used to [01:45] what with like... no borders around the window [01:45] but, it does look sleek [01:47] task manager? [01:48] yeah [01:49] ah yes [01:49] Ksysguard [01:49] I can see the thing [01:49] ? [01:49] change from elegant to classic to get it back [01:52] brb === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:54] nice fix on the systemsettings bug btw [01:54] Mez: which bug? [01:55] the maximised window thing [01:57] sweet [01:57] amarok 1.3 [01:57] 1.3.1. [01:57] I've been looking forward to this [01:58] when does KDE move away from arts btw [01:58] has already begun afaik [01:58] just wondering cause it's still using arts for me [01:58] amarok 1.3.1 works fine with gstreamer [01:59] gst is teh engine :) [01:59] so why is arts still in kcontrol [01:59] just waiting alsasink-comeback [02:03] Mez: KDE 3.4 still has arts, I've heard rumours that for 3.5 you can just use akode, no idea if that's true or not [02:03] otherwise KDE 4 [02:04] SuSE allegedly have backported the KDE 4 kdemm stuff to KDE 3 too [02:04] akode ... [02:04] never tried that === Mez doesnt like arts [02:09] Mez: why don't you like arts? [02:09] arts breaks a lot [02:09] well [02:09] and gstreamer dosen't :) [02:09] I dislike artsdsp [02:09] :D [02:09] it segfaults on me way too much [02:27] sebas: is pykde extentions going to go into SVN? === _tonio [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:33] <_tonio> I there ;) [02:33] <_tonio> I need help of a specialist ;) [02:33] <_tonio> I have a package that compiles perfectly with ./ configure && make && make install [02:34] <_tonio> but it fails with pbuilder.... It is the third package that has this kind of problem in 3 days and I start wondering if it is not a pbuilder bug, or I don't know ;) [02:36] _tonio: what's the failure? [02:36] what happens if you just use debuild ? [02:36] <_tonio> the failure is a non found file [02:37] <_tonio> let me try with debuild :) [02:38] <_tonio> Riddell: I just discovered the amazing possibilities of aptitude, but why on earth is it the only dpkg frontend that manages correctly with deps ? [02:38] <_tonio> will adept manage package removal correctly ? [02:42] _tonio: aptitude saves what an install brings in doesn't it? adept doesn't currently do that but bugs.kde.org is your friend [02:45] <_tonio> yes that is a real pleasure to use this.... I discovered that today, and I was thinking tat aptitude was just a kind of shortcut to apt ;) [02:46] <_tonio> I'll ask that with the exporting/importing function :) Synaptic should perform this too, amazing that only aptitude does that [02:46] <_tonio> Riddell: same problem with debuild === Riddell pokes _tonio into reporting it to bugs.kde.org === _tonio ensures he will do ;) [02:46] _tonio: it's probably the package not liking build-directory != source directory [02:47] <_tonio> Riddell: I have seen this twice before.... what to do in this case ? [02:48] _tonio: moan to upstream [02:48] <_tonio> new version of klibido has the problem also, and briquolo (great 3d breakout) also... [02:49] <_tonio> okay, so I have to ask to the upstream to check for this ;) [02:49] _tonio: it's probably faily easy to fix if you can play with the code [02:49] fairly [02:49] <_tonio> of course ;) [02:49] _tonio: send me a source package and I'll take a look [02:50] <_tonio> courtesy, fairly, polite and respectfull ^^ [02:50] <_tonio> okay [02:51] anyone got breezy able to try the new knetworkconf? [02:54] <_tonio> I may if you want ;) [02:54] <_tonio> Riddell: do you want to talk about the network mask bug ? === |apokryp| can === _tonio is gonna test also [02:55] <_tonio> Riddell: http://www.planetemu.net/temp/tellico_riddell.tar.gz -> the package not building correctly [02:57] Admin mode switch a.o.k. -- the icon on that kdesu(type) looks pretty bad. Small icon made huge. [02:57] could be because I don't have latest (as in, last few days kde packs). Might as well install now actually. [02:58] apokryphos: knetworkconf? [02:58] yes [02:58] systemsettings -> network settings [02:58] apokryphos: that's known. but it doesn't pop up a nasty box saying disto not supported? [02:58] Riddell: not anymore, nope (I remember that happening) [02:59] <_tonio> Riddell: admin switching works, trying to go with fixed parameters [02:59] apokryphos: excellent, thanks === apokryphos checks if knemo is working now [03:01] Hm, doesn't detect my network again, but app is working (used to crash/refuse to go away, as I recall) [03:01] _tonio: why do you capitalise your last name? [03:01] <_tonio> still here ? === _tonio [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:01] <_tonio> Riddell: still that old bug..... [03:02] <_tonio> broascast invalid when you swtich to manual config [03:02] _tonio: which? [03:02] _tonio: grr [03:02] <_tonio> you can put what you want you always get a /8 [03:02] <_tonio> here is the ifconfig result when in dhcp [03:03] <_tonio> eth0 Lien encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:30:1B:AD:3D:E4 [03:03] <_tonio> inet adr:82.226.229.51 Bcast:82.255.255.255 Masque:255.255.255.0 [03:03] <_tonio> here is the problem, I should get a 82.x.x.255 with a /24 mask right ? [03:04] <_tonio> and that's what I get with dhcp and exactly the same config appart from that: [03:04] <_tonio> eth0 Lien encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:30:1B:AD:3D:E4 [03:04] <_tonio> inet adr:82.226.229.51 Bcast:82.226.229.255 Masque:255.255.255.0 [03:04] <_tonio> which is correct [03:05] <_tonio> the problem is well known and has been reported with a fix build by another distribution maintainers... I think it is a problem with all debian based distros (mepis etc...) [03:05] <_tonio> Riddell: never eared about that issue ? [03:08] <_tonio> Riddell: <_tonio> here is the ifconfig result when in dhcp -> read "not in dhcp" for the first case ;) [03:09] <_tonio> Riddell: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39098&highlight=knetworkconf+fixed ----> link with ASLinux fixed package repporting that problem ;) [03:16] <_tonio> Riddell: in fact there are 2 bugs, 1 -> default gateway is not saved, 2 - > broadcast is invalid (reguarding to the network mask === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:27] <_tonio> hi JRe [03:27] hi _tonio !!! [03:28] <_tonio> franais ? [03:28] oui :) [03:28] <_tonio> JRe: j'ai comme un doute sur le pseudo la;) c'est avec toi que j'ai discutt une bonne heure sur active directory non ? [03:28] oui c moi [03:29] <_tonio> oki bon aller une minute en francais, j'ai une question et la flemme de causer en anglais ;) [03:29] <_tonio> comment on peut compiler un package pour REVU qui a des dependences en multiverse ? [03:29] <_tonio> le serveur ne pourra pas packager..... j'ai pas encore trouv de soluce ca [03:30] effectivement tu peux pas je pense [03:30] <_tonio> bah voui, mais c'est relou quoi ;) les motus sont pas trop dispos pour m'expliker quoi faire en ce moment ;) [03:31] <_tonio> ca existe pas master of the multiverse ? ;) [03:32] :) [03:32] non [03:33] <_tonio> rah, fait chier ^^ [03:33] <_tonio> quoi de neuf ? moi ca package dur la ce WE, j'en ai au moins 23 sur le feu la ;) je blance la sauce avant breezy quoi ;) === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === author_ [n=author@p509069B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === KaiL [n=KaiL@p548F5226.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@dialin-145-254-255-082.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:31] hello [10:32] hello === m-fox [n=m-fox@port-212-202-8-119.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === author_ is now known as author === |apokryp| [n=apokryph@host-87-74-29-244.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpatrick [n=patrick@170.Red-83-33-123.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === m-fox [n=m-fox@port-212-202-8-119.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === author [n=author@p509069B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === elvirolo [n=elvirolo@lns-bzn-3-gre-82-250-76-247.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:05] hi all [01:05] anyone around? [01:05] <\sh> yes ;) [01:06] <\sh> Riddell: ping french translation? [01:08] :) === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === elvirolo [n=elvirolo@lns-bzn-3-gre-82-250-76-247.adsl.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Kopete] [01:47] \sh: ping [01:52] <\sh> mitsuhiko: pong [01:53] \sh: kann es sein, dass libdvcdcss vor einem monat in multiverse war? [01:53] <\sh> nein [01:53] <\sh> argl..no i mean [01:53] \sh: it's installed in one of my breezy machines [01:53] and there is only restricted, main, universe and multiverse [01:56] <\sh> mitsuhiko: there is no upload of libdvdcss [01:56] strange === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-29-244.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === JRee [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D3F38.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mez_ [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:31] Riddell: about katapult: Am I right, that you don't have integrated the patch of Revision 8 (svn) "small bugfix" in the breezy package? [04:37] OculusAquilae, katapult is working nicely here :d [04:37] Mez: at my box, too, but I have a little bug in the config dialog [04:38] oh yeah, that needs integrating too [04:38] and Revision 8 is the solution for this problem :-) [04:39] I have also a modified systray_optional.diff [04:45] Katapult rocks :D [04:45] jpatrick: it does [04:46] <\sh> I don't see the damn memleak in amarok1.3.1 === author_ [n=author@p509069B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:43] is it normal that superkaramba depends on xmms ? [05:44] JRe: i didn't know why [05:44] strange [05:45] OculusAquilae: how can i access to the config window of katapult ? [05:45] CTRL+C === _tonio [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:00] doesn't Ctrl-C == copy ? [06:02] jpatrick: run katapult with alt+space then spress crtl+c === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:04] jpatrick: yes, CTRL+C does many things === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:14] Display blocked JavaScript popups in kde 3.5 konqueror O_O [06:15] http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.5-features.html === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-131-046.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:18] hey Mez &co :) [06:26] hi === Verwilst [n=verwilst@dD5E0095A.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === scto [n=scto@84-73-6-255.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === scto [n=scto@84-73-6-255.dclient.hispeed.ch] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] [08:05] hi Riddell [08:05] what's the status on the 3.5 debs? [08:11] Verwilst: he may respond with an update later, but so far kdebase, kdelibs, kdeutils, and kdetoys are in [08:14] apokryphos: url? [08:14] i can compile too tomorrow [08:15] my computer's too slow for compiling [08:15] Verwilst: http://kubuntu.org/~jr/kde35beta1/ [08:16] arts is in too === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:18] well, yeah. :) [08:18] http://kubuntu.org/~jr/kde35beta1/pool-hoary/kdelibs/ is empty? [08:18] kdebase only has 3 apps [08:18] Verwilst: yep [08:19] same for breezy [08:19] how come? ;) [08:19] Only the packs required for building other kde parts have been put in [08:20] oh : [08:20] Verwilst: and you can help build, too. Ask Riddell when he comes, if you like. [08:20] =) [08:21] well, i started building it a couple of weeks ago [08:21] i had arts built [08:21] but kdelibs didn't feel like building :$ [08:21] Verwilst: there's plenty others to do, of course :P [08:21] oh [08:21] but that was the alpha! [08:22] Oh. 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