=== mbreit [n=mo@p54877D51.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:03] ogra: I've noticed that I can't use brightside (screen corner actions) to prevent gnome-screensaver from starting when I watch a movie. do you know if the problem would be in g-s or in brightside? === dand [n=dand@83.103.205.67] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:05] no idea, i dont even know brightside, but i guess it needs adjustment to set the gconf key that controls if gnome-screensaver is enabled [12:06] brightside is teh love. We should desktop seed it [12:06] Mithrandir, after we made it work with gnome-screensaver indeed :) [12:07] it should set /apps/gnome-screensaver/mode to disabled and afterwards back to the former state [12:11] ah, here's what it does with xscreensaver: "implemented by running xscreensaver-command -deactivate every 30 seconds" === avanspronsen [n=andrewv@London-HSE-ppp3544167.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:19] phlaegel, yes, that nedds to be changed to a gconftool-2 call that sets the key to disabled === jcape_ [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:22] or changed to run gnome-screensaver-command --deactivate :-) [12:23] jbailey: Oh nnnnnnngh. [12:23] jbailey: Can we do the LVM setup there as well? === phlaegel [n=phlaegel@atdot.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:25] ogra: it should probably rather use libgconf, though. [12:27] gnome-screensaver has the a command line --deactivate option as well... which way would be better, cmdline or gconf? [12:28] I think gconf, but that might just be me [12:29] well, after looking at the brightside source, switching to support gnome-screensaver would be really easy (even I, a non C programmer) could do it. [12:29] But really, it should detect whether xscreensaver or gnome-screensaver is in effect and only manipulate the righ tone. [12:30] that's a bit harder, though. [12:30] it could just run -deactivate on both [12:30] expect that gnome-screensaver uses -- and xscreensaver - :-( [12:31] unless you want to run both g-s-c and x-c [12:32] yes, that was my suggestiong [12:32] suggestion, even [12:32] ah [12:34] torkel, with my next upload you wont be able to run both... they clach if you run both daemons and you got two identical entrys in the menu [12:35] i'll make the packages conflict... [12:35] ogra: great [12:36] ogra: might be an idea to make an xscreensaver-command wrapper in gnome-screensaver? [12:37] it would ease the migration to gnome-screensaver [12:39] hmm, i wonder if we'd really need that, the desktop itself works out of the box without it... and we wont see problems with universe apps === Kamion unearths the debian-cd installation he used to build Sounder 1 [12:46] wow [12:46] :) [12:46] Kamion, for you http://www.grawert.net/edubuntu/edu_isolinux.png [12:47] 639x320@16 [12:47] thanks, could you mail me that? [12:47] yup [12:47] er, the URL [12:47] I'll set it up on Monday [12:47] thanks [12:48] sure, take your time :) [12:51] how can I add a trusted key to apt? [12:51] Kamion: is that for the usplash? [12:51] I was wondering about getting a version for that [12:52] Riddell - man apt-key [12:52] Mez, thats for the CD splash, not usplash [12:53] ah [12:53] shame be cool for usplash for kubuntu/edu/ub === sfvt_ [n=sfeehan@pool-64-222-103-115.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:53] Mez, http://www.grawert.net/edubuntu/edusplash.png thats for usplash [12:54] (in fact its the same pic, just cropped down for isolinux) [12:54] ogra: so there are going to be seperate usplash's for the different ones? [12:54] does that mean kubuntu#'ll get one [12:54] hopefully [12:54] dunno, depends on Riddell's atr team ;) [12:55] art even [12:55] the new art is looking nice [12:55] ogra: Mez likes my art at least :) [12:56] Riddell, that was no criticism :) [12:56] Riddell, you made the art? [12:56] I do like the loading screen... [12:56] very tacky, but, still - cool [12:56] what's the status of usplash support for different graphics? [12:57] Mez: it's based on the stuff in 3.5 [12:57] Riddell, jbailey called for graphics last week... so it seems we'll have them soon [12:57] Riddell: I'm on about the letters being used as the markers... so you slowly revela the word "kubuntu" as you login [12:57] tacky, but uber [12:58] Mez: yeah, got that idea off someone on kde-look [12:58] lol [12:58] If I'd seen that a few years ago, i would have thought "how tacky" and gone off the distro [12:58] but, it's done well [01:02] Mez: the easter egg is that it changes to h a h a h a ! on 2006-04-01 [01:02] Right. Is there anything I'm supposed to be fixing right now? [01:03] Other than yenta-socket and hibernate [01:03] And gnome-screensaver integration === persia [n=persia@p3101-ipbf412marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:03] lol@ sladen - I woiuldnt be surprised [01:04] Mez, you will be... if it loads GNOME afterwards ;) [01:05] mjg59: my R52 doesn't turn the blacklight off when blanking the screen. Is that your fault? [01:05] ogra: lol - I've not ever really used ubuntu :D === camilotelles [n=Camilo@20132139198.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:08] sladen: I don't know. What does xset dpms force off do? [01:09] mjg59, do we want dpms in gnome-screensaver on by default ? [01:10] i'm just twiddling with the defaults in the package [01:11] ogra: Yes [01:12] ok === nathanel [i=magiQ@p5492C555.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === jdub [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === marcin_ant [n=marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:45] GOOD MORNING FREEDOM LOVERS! [01:45] jbailey: ooh, good upload! :) [01:45] goood morning jeff :) === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:59] Heya jdub [02:00] Why would xfonts-terminus source be in main but package in Universe? Or am I reading apt-cache madison output incorrectly? [02:02] bddebian, some packages get overriden if they're inconsequential parts of a source package [02:02] like - technically, k3b-mp3 should be overriden to be put in restricted/multiverse :D [02:03] Mez: But they are the only part of the source package? [02:03] bddebian, a source package can provide multiple binary packages [02:04] Aye, I know that [02:04] I see what you are saying. X binary package out of Y source package may end up in universe. [02:05] Right? [02:05] yep [02:05] though for some reason - that seems like a weird package [02:05] Why? [02:05] Source package: xfonts-terminus (4.12-2ubuntu1) [02:05] The following binary packages are built from this source package: [02:05] console-terminus [02:05] Fixed-width fonts for fast reading on the Linux console [02:05] xfonts-terminus [02:05] Fixed-width fonts for fast reading. [02:05] console-terminus = in main [02:05] the rest arent [02:06] Guess someone felt console-terminus was important? ;-) [02:06] So can I upload a fix to the xfonts-terminus binary without affecting main? [02:07] er [02:07] no [02:07] That's what I thought [02:07] OH well, that bug stays open :-) [02:07] you need to have main upload rights for it as the source package is what your uploading which is in main [02:07] :d [02:07] :P === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-83-33.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:42] is P1 or P5 highest priority in bugzilla? [02:45] ah, there's priority and severity [02:45] I'll go for severity, at least that has descriptive names [02:47] Riddell: http://www.livejournal.com/users/spyderous/51021.html === Elleo [n=Elleo@shellsong.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [02:50] tseng: thanks [02:51] Riddell: nps. [02:51] hi [02:51] hi andrew [02:52] thanks for the "beagle leaks" bug [02:52] i need to cool off before addressing it [02:52] w/o sounding like a cock [02:52] thought: why aren't we shipping mysql 4.1 as the unversioned 'mysql-server' package (thus replacing 4.0 in main)? [02:52] it looked like a bit more than the usual leakage [02:52] not really [02:52] im not sure what people think happens when you try to index 10s of gigs of data [02:53] tseng: interdimensional quantum cluster indexing? [02:53] jdub: yeah dude [02:53] it's more efficient [02:53] i was just talking to abock about the same thing [02:53] we are going to invent CFQ-MissCleo [02:53] obviously we need to support the atomchip [02:54] miss cleo being a popular psychic on tv in the US [02:54] it will read your mind and assign IO accordingly [02:54] jdub: and the quantum optical memory? [02:54] jdub: I hear their x86 emulation is amazing [02:54] jdub: i bet breezy runs out of the box. [02:54] in russian only, though. [02:55] ajmitch: 70 GIGWATZ [02:55] +A [02:56] yeah [02:56] you require your own fusion plant to run it then? [02:56] jdub: so dude, not making UBZ, but whiprush and I are going to totally hit up the summit [02:56] jdub: SEE YOU THERE. [02:56] (badger badger badger) === ajmitch is still considering whether to spend the cash on flying to UBZ [02:57] Riddell: http://www.paul.sladen.org/ubuntu/usplash/kubuntu-usplash/ now in exchange, can I steal your living room back to go to sleep? :-) [02:59] ajmitch: bio-diesel [03:00] jbailey: riddell says "Nice", so you can add the above the initramfs pr0n collection now [03:01] can we get nipples on usplash? [03:01] or too much to ask. [03:01] tseng: oh, elite! [03:01] tseng: well, half elite. [03:01] tseng: 14 colour breast representations... mmm. [03:02] sladen: nicely done [03:02] sladen: you can have the living room back in a minute yes [03:03] jdub: only half? [03:03] tseng: given !UBZ [03:04] oh, well [03:04] tseng: no time/$ for UBZ? [03:04] claire said i smell awful and she would not be having me in the same hotel again === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5487C5F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [03:04] sounds fair [03:04] ajmitch: i could afford it [03:04] ajmitch: but its not worth it for me [03:05] i can get my fix at the boston summit for much less [03:05] and less time off work [03:05] that's what I'm thinking of too === Mez pokes sladen [03:05] C. needs a bigger fleet of private jets to taxi people [03:05] tseng: plus there will be more mono love at the summit [03:05] Mez: yo [03:05] jdub: yes! [03:05] sladen: we could buy the ones that novell's investors are suggesting they ditch [03:05] jdub: i cant wait to meet miguel [03:05] a pity I won't be at the summit then [03:05] tseng: you'll have to represent the mono love in ubuntu [03:05] sladen: you were doing the ubuntu t-shirts were you not? [03:06] ajmitch: miguel already represented it at GUADEC [03:06] tseng: i think you will dig hacking with nat, rml, joe and trow [03:06] Mez: nope. I do the Debian ones... [03:06] jdub: oh man, joe and trow are elite! [03:06] tseng: in ubuntu? [03:06] jdub: and nat, but thats given [03:06] sladen: I must have misheard then when you were trying to pedal the debian ones :D [03:06] ajmitch: someone at GUADEC asked when mono will go in fedora [03:07] ajmitch: miguel says "probably never, just get NLD.. actually, get ubunut" [03:07] ubuntu rather [03:07] this was at the keynote, live streaming and all that [03:07] hah [03:07] nice === tseng fanboi'd [03:07] Mez: artwork rather than flog. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/t-shirt has details of the ones Simera is flogging [03:08] ty sladen [03:08] I just don't know if it's worth me coming to UBZ, given the cost [03:08] exactly [03:09] tseng: btw I felt like doing something crazy & hacking DPAP support into f-spot [03:09] ajmitch: dude save it for LCA or something [03:09] ajmitch: hm i heard talk of that on #g-h a few times [03:09] LCA is only a short walkl down the street for me [03:09] seriously [03:09] i think it was David [03:09] davyd [03:09] wouldn't surprise me [03:09] ajmitch: i'm sure we'll have another summit much closer to .au/.nz [03:09] why is it that the only semi-decent linux things in england are never near me [03:09] jdub: I hope so [03:09] ajmitch: we're going for regions [03:10] only one I've managed to pull off getting to was LRL [03:10] jdub: I would have liked to push a couple of things at UBZ, and take a bit of a holiday in the area afterwards [03:10] jdub: I expect you'll be at LCA, of course? [03:10] ajmitch: then come, or pass them off to someone else to push at it [03:11] Mez: Linux Expo is in a fortnight, if you come and do there stand you might be lucky enough to get an exclusive Ubuntu t-shirt :) [03:11] ajmitch: on the VP's arm :-) [03:11] jdub: good :) [03:11] sladen: I was meant to get one at LRL but noone was around [03:11] and I'm working when it's on [03:11] hence why I cant make it [03:12] Mez: ah, if you did the stand there and didn't get one, it might be possible to sort one out [03:13] I sort of did [03:13] but because the guy i was meant to talk to - I couldnt find [03:13] causde noone was on the stand [03:13] the best I could do was stand in front talking to people (inluding you) [03:14] Mez: the problem with Ubuntu stuff in the UK is everyone with 1 foot in Ubuntu is too busy pimping Debian, KDE or other $foo of choice [03:15] sladen: i think this is a 'problem' in general, but it's easy to work around [03:15] sladen: ubuntu is a great vehicle for pimping your other projects [03:16] [ the plural 'your' ;-) ] [03:17] :P [03:17] sladen: too true [03:17] jdub: indeed :-). I think the better take to solve this is probably to sucumvent the other projects and get the GNOME stand demo'ing Ubuntu, KDE Ubuntu, LTSP... etc [03:17] lol [03:17] get it into people's heads that Ubuntu is the _means_ rather than the _end_ [03:17] :P [03:18] and how you gonna get that to happen === feehan [n=sfeehan@pool-64-222-103-115.burl.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] [03:18] sladen: though that becomes problematic in some circumstances (GNOME is very aware of its distributors, so favouring one seems unfair) [03:18] Mez: know any other people who aren't working. Need to find about 15 people for the Ubuntu stand, onto of about 15 for the Debian stand, minus all the ones that Canonical won't let have time off... [03:18] LTSP are very ubuntu focused atm, but that may change [03:19] (* and it's release date about then) [03:19] why do you need 15? [03:19] that's a *lot* of people [03:19] sladen: not anyone that'd want to do it [03:19] jdub: that's about what it takes to man the Debian stand at the expo. We normally have a constant 7-10 conversations happening and it's nice to give people time off over the two days [03:20] anyways [03:20] I'm gonna walk the dog [03:30] sladen: did you get my /query? [03:30] Mez: yes, and I even replied to it [03:30] hmm [03:30] I didn gtet your reply [03:30] weird [03:31] sladen: you're not id'd to nickserv thats why [03:32] and I cant seem to turn off +E [03:33] ta, solved. === sjg [n=jason@adsl-67-117-27-129.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === niccc3 [n=_@tor/session/x-8271930eafe40c97] has joined #ubuntu-devel [04:05] bddebian: please stop destroying global productivity by uploading new versions of wesnoth. kthxbye. [04:05] Uhm, is that sarcasm? [04:06] no. wesnoth is a stain upon the free software movement. [04:06] it must be stopped. [04:06] Well someone needs to tell me this stuff [04:06] whatever you do, don't play it. [04:06] don't even test the packages. [04:07] it's just too dangerous. [04:07] Oh I've played it before. Sorry, it doesn't compare to NeverWinterNights ;-P [04:25] tseng: is there a monodoc 1.1.8 floating around the net? [04:50] infinity: ping? === blixtra [n=chris@ppp-71-136-172-191.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi__ [n=wasabi@c-67-166-172-224.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi__ fun with sasl [05:18] jdub: Well you will be happy to know that I broke wesnoth === gabaug [n=gabe@209-254-131-118.ip.mcleodusa.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:20] ha ha ;-0 [05:20] ;-) [05:21] that will keep the evil at bay! [05:21] :'-( [05:22] I seem to be unable to get libnss-ldap to work with gssapi properly. =( [05:27] Can someone pop in #ubuntu and kick Hommm he's a spamming/annoying twat !! === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:31] mdz: You around? === Gman [n=Glynn@amfea-proxy-2.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:39] hrm, i'm not getting DRI with fglrx despite xorg.log showing it all good === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [05:46] Heya tritium [05:46] Hi bddebian [05:47] tritium: Got any extra space in NM? ;-) [05:47] bddebian, sure, are you driving through>? [05:48] tritium: Nah, I think I'm going to have to go into hiding :-) [05:48] bddebian, oh? Why's that? [05:48] For being stupid :-) [05:49] bddebian, I'm sure it's nothing too serious. [05:50] I asked for a sync of Wesnoth and somehow missed a dep on ttf-dejavu. Which wouldn't be so bad because it would be new to us. However, ttf-dejavu build-deps on a newer version of fontforge, which is in main.. :'-( [05:53] bddebian, don't beat yourself up about it [05:58] we need bigger uid space. =( [05:59] I wonder perhaps if we shouldn't be using uids past a certain range as part of the system (nobody comes to mind) === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === mae [n=mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [06:33] * Rebuild for glibc [06:33] bddebian: eh? [06:36] elmo: Malone bug #1082. Bad description,sorry [06:36] elmo: not sure if someone else to requested this; please sync openafs from Sid [06:37] wow, I can't type. "...if someone else has requested..." [06:40] crimsun: done [06:40] thanks! [06:40] hi crimsun [06:40] 'lo tritium === fabbione [n=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione larts evms and glibc === comadreja [n=comadrej@224.Red-83-41-20.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [08:46] bddebian: am now === spstarr [n=spstarr@CPEdeadbeef0000-CM000039d4cc6a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel [09:11] thanks for making hplip (HP Printing daemons) optional with /etc/default/hplip :-)) === dooglus_ [n=dooglus@r2m7.chello.upc.cz] has joined #ubuntu-devel === persia [n=persia@p3101-ipbf412marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-devel [] === maradong [n=bhentges@vodsl-4166.vo.lu] has joined #ubuntu-devel === otavio is now known as otavio[off] === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.20.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Treenaks [n=martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-devel === chapeaurouge [n=chap@85.201.80.226] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-108-247.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === wasabi__ [n=wasabi@c-67-162-224-207.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:11] sladen: Eh, what? =) === Kamion [n=cjwatson@83-216-156-196.colinw664.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-devel === smurfix [n=smurf@debian/developer/smurf] has joined #ubuntu-devel === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:31] hello === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:46] mjg59: The problem with doing the lvm setup there is that in the multipath case, some of the components of the LVM volume might be on the USB, so you risk corruption. [10:46] mjg59: What I've done for now is test if the device exists at that point. If not, I proceed as before. [10:47] So for people with USB that doesn't suck they can recover from it too. [10:47] jbailey: http://www.paul.sladen.org/ubuntu/usplash/kubuntu-usplash/kubuntu-usplash-640x480-14.png however I've just noticed that the gradient on the reflection looks better the other way up, so there'll probably be a newer version later [10:47] sladen: Nice. =) [10:47] sladen: Is this correctly pallette matched for foreground/background/failed text? [10:48] (0,2, and 12 or 13 IIRC) === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487C5F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:49] Mm, no 0 has to be background. [10:49] jbailey: nope, because I couldn't find what they were. There's 14 colors meaning there are two to play with and two that should be stealable [10:49] Lemme look them up, justasec. [10:49] jbailey: I'll do a wiki page if you let me in on the secret :) [10:49] #define TEXT_BACKGROUND 0 [10:49] #define TEXT_FOREGROUND 2 [10:49] #define RED 13 [10:50] #define BACKGROUND_COLOUR 0 [10:50] #define PROGRESSBAR_COLOUR 1 === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [10:50] Those are hardcodes atm, and should probably stay that way for breezy. [10:50] When we have time for cleverness, they can become configurable. [10:51] hey jb [10:51] Heya Fabio! [10:51] sladen: I'll even tell you what the alternative will be once I get it setup. [10:51] I'm not in much shape to be hacking atm. [10:53] jbailey: don't worry. btw, do you/Kamion know off the top of your head what isolinux uses to select its colours? [10:53] I have no experience with isolinux [10:55] ogra: for edubuntu-artwork, is it possible to make it use dpkg-divert against ubuntu-artwork if not much has changed? === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-41-168.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:07] sladen: don't worry about that, I can deal with the isolinux palette when running ppmtolss16 to convert to rle format for isolinux [11:08] sladen: just make sure one colour in the palette is black or very close to black (for background) and one is close to white (for text underneath the image) [11:08] isolinux wants background as colour 0 and text as colour 7, but the conversion program has options to rearrange the palette arbitrarily [11:11] sladen: and you can use any of those colours in your image (they're not changed, they're just used for other things) === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:23] Can $people fixup https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Usplash/Artwork === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-12-143.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [11:51] sladen, nope, it uses many of the ubuntu-artwork contents, i just set some cdd gconf keys and use other splash and background images [11:51] thats why edubuntu-artwork depends on ubuntu-artwork === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@bl5-53-9.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-devel === doko_ [n=doko@dsl-084-059-097-230.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-83-29.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === PlutoPrime [n=farhad@66-190-240-58.dhcp.klmt.or.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1151.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === olemke [n=olemke@p54897F40.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === Micksa [n=mslade@203-217-18-166.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-devel [12:24] gnyah [12:25] how do I get ~/.xsession to run? [12:26] or achive the same effect - per user X startup commans [12:27] Micksa, try #ubuntu for support [12:31] ubuntu doesn't like me [12:32] #ubuntu even [12:33] sorry to hear that [12:33] keep trying though! [12:33] someone will help === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === olemke [n=olemke@p54897F40.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === maskie [n=maskie@196-30-109-68.uudial.uunet.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-devel === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1021.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-devel === elvirolo [n=elvirolo@lns-bzn-3-gre-82-250-76-247.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:01] hi all [01:01] is it relevant to report bugs related to internationalisation yet ? [01:02] sure === TrInX [i=evaldasi@hst-137-175.telelanas.lt] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:03] ok thanks [01:03] cause about 20 % of kubuntu isn't translated into french === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:04] <\sh> elvirolo: please join #kubuntu-devel ,-) [01:05] ah yeah you're right :) === elvirolo [n=elvirolo@lns-bzn-3-gre-82-250-76-247.adsl.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Kopete] === herzi [n=herzi@p548DEB78.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel === vrln [n=vrln@a84-230-69-234.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:17] I think I found a serious bug in sudo @ breezy (updated ~1 hour ago), should I file it or can I just say it here? I don't have a bugzilla account [01:18] vrln@core:~$ sudo echo "opt/e17/lib" >> /etc/ld.so.conf [01:18] bash: /etc/ld.so.conf: Permission denied [01:18] --> the ">>" isn't working perhaps? [01:18] I can sudo nano /etc/ld.so.conf and edit it manually [01:18] and the permissions for /etc/ld.so.conf are ok [01:20] vrln: that is not a bug [01:20] vrln: the redirection is done by your shell [01:20] vrln: as such runs outside the sudo [01:20] ehm, sorry, so it's bash related instead? :) [01:21] I don't see anything wrong with the syntax though [01:23] <\sh> vrln: use tee ,-) [01:24] vrln: its not a bug at all [01:24] <\sh> vrln: echo "opt/e17/lib" | sudo tee -a /etc/ld.so.conf [01:25] ok, sorry - and nevermind :) === vrln [n=vrln@a84-230-69-234.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has left #ubuntu-devel ["Leaving"] === dand [n=dand@83.103.205.67] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:35] ajmitch: nope. [01:35] ajmitch: 1.0.7->1.1.9 === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-devel === koke [n=koke@adsl229-164.unizar.es] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:38] tseng: right, I built avahi 0.5 without monodoc support anyway [01:38] ajmitch: nod [01:39] new monodoc would be a pretty serious repackage [01:39] so we'll have a new libavahi-cil in soon ,I guess [01:39] yeah [01:39] stuff was split into a seperate package [01:39] we cant do it. [01:39] I wasn't expecting it in breezy [01:39] rock on [01:40] ajmitch: have you got me a patch i can send to ross yet? :) [01:41] Lathiat: if you really really want [01:41] <\sh> mjg59: http://www.flybook.biz/en/?section=generic&page=flybook <- something for your notebook collection? ,-) [01:41] but the debdiff would include the 0.4->0.5 code changes [01:41] ajmitch: why wouldnt i want it? [01:41] unless I just diff the debian dirs [01:41] ajmitch: cant you just diff the debian dirs === spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:44] debdiff *dsc | filterdiff -i */debian/* > 0.4-0.5.debdiff [01:45] (If you don't want to diff the twon unpackaged trees by hand) === AstralJava [n=jaska@83.102.38.17] has joined #ubuntu-devel [01:47] infinity: thanks :) [01:47] hey guys [01:47] who is fluent in "SQL"? [01:47] i need help for a couple of query... [01:48] fabbione: i can help you with the basics [01:49] fabbione: no crazy view/subselect whatever is the rage now [01:49] tseng: i need nothing too fancy [01:49] great. [01:49] it seems that all my sql tables contains tons of duplicate entries [01:49] note that i did a dump -> import [01:49] so that might have gone wrong [01:49] so i would like to kill all the duplicates [01:50] Good argument for having unique keys. :) [01:50] infinity: i am not a SQL god.. [01:50] http://www.petefreitag.com/item/169.cfm < google wins [01:51] fabbione : Are the rows identical (ie: yo udon't even have an auto_increment ID tag or something?) [01:51] http://www.sql-server-performance.com/rd_delete_duplicates.asp [01:52] If the rows are completely identical, there's no way to identify one from another, so there's no way to delete one without deleting both. [01:52] infinity: they look perfectly identical [01:52] or it looks like [01:52] oh, ew [01:52] is it an option to drop the db and import again? [01:52] In that case, you want a query that will collapse identical rows, then dump the whole table into a temp table. [01:52] tseng: yes it is [01:53] Then turn around and rotate your temp table back over your original. [01:53] infinity: i can do that.. it's no issue.. [01:53] infinity: i just need to figure how :) [01:53]