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| Burglaptop | bon soir, robitaille | 08:11 |
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| robitaille | hello Burglaptop | 08:12 |
| Burglaptop | NM works! | 08:12 |
| Burglaptop | robitaille, are we an approved loco team (ca) | 09:03 |
| robitaille | Burglaptop, I don't think so. | 09:03 |
| Burglaptop | robitaille, what needs to happen for that? | 09:04 |
| robitaille | an approved team is one that appears to be a team, at least according to an email from Matthias a few weeks back. Until now, I don't think we have done enough to reach that goal. | 09:04 |
| robitaille | once a team seems to be a "real" team, then he moves you up in the loco wiki page | 09:05 |
| robitaille | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList | 09:06 |
| robitaille | personally I don't disagree with that conclusion based on our activities in recent months | 09:06 |
| === robitaille is searching for that email from smurfix | ||
| Burglaptop | robitaille, parsing through LocoTeam, it is a good read | 09:09 |
| robitaille | by the way, you are on their mailing list yet? loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com | 09:10 |
| Burglaptop | will be soon | 09:10 |
| Burglaptop | am now | 09:11 |
| robitaille | oh maybe it wan't an email, but a comment in an old CC meeting... | 09:12 |
| robitaille | s/wan't/wasn't | 09:12 |
| robitaille | do we keep dates of old CC meetings somewhere on the wiki? | 09:12 |
| Burglaptop | I will follow up on the Ubuntu Love Day at UBZ tomorrow | 09:12 |
| Burglaptop | ouch, that is a lot of old log parsing | 09:13 |
| Burglaptop | anyway, I have to sleep now | 09:16 |
| Burglaptop | night | 09:16 |
| robitaille | Burglaptop, still here? | 09:18 |
| robitaille | I'll send you an email | 09:19 |
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| mdke | morn | 12:20 |
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| mdke | hey jsgotangco | 02:44 |
| jsgotangco | hey | 02:44 |
| mdke | damn that change of terminal | 02:45 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 02:45 |
| mdke | i think we should fix it | 02:45 |
| jsgotangco | along with the relocation of Add Applications | 02:45 |
| mdke | you? | 02:45 |
| jsgotangco | i have no idea how may strings are affected | 02:45 |
| mdke | we had warning of those from sabdfl before they made the changes, he asked in case they affected docs | 02:45 |
| jsgotangco | oh right | 02:46 |
| jsgotangco | damn my reply | 02:46 |
| jsgotangco | please correct me | 02:46 |
| mdke | i dunno how many strings are affected either | 02:46 |
| mdke | probably loads | 02:46 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, so are we going to fix about-ubuntu? | 02:48 |
| mdke | it is quite a serious error IMO | 02:48 |
| jsgotangco | it has been an error since warty | 02:49 |
| mdke | it is very ugly right now | 02:49 |
| jsgotangco | yes because its so big | 02:49 |
| === mdke nods | ||
| jsgotangco | but if we use a small image, its uglier | 02:50 |
| mdke | is there no way to put it outside the title? | 02:50 |
| jsgotangco | i tried it putting on subtitle but i got errors | 02:50 |
| mdke | maybe even after the subtitle? | 02:50 |
| jsgotangco | yes that's the only way to go if we still include the logo | 02:51 |
| mdke | let me see how it looks | 02:51 |
| mdke | what tag is needed to put it after the subtitle? | 02:51 |
| jsgotangco | haven't you noticed all docs in yelp don't have an image on the front/title | 02:51 |
| mdke | i don't look at yelp a lot ;) | 02:51 |
| jsgotangco | lol | 02:52 |
| mdke | it might be that the best solution is to remove the image | 02:52 |
| jsgotangco | let me check my wc | 02:52 |
| jsgotangco | i'd move for removal | 02:52 |
| mdke | ok i'm happy with that | 02:52 |
| jsgotangco | it doesn't affect the overall doc content just the look | 02:52 |
| mdke | shall we remove it and post to the list? | 02:53 |
| mdke | if there are objections we can revoke | 02:53 |
| jsgotangco | gimme a minute heh i'm booting up my other laptop and look at the wc | 02:54 |
| jsgotangco | i should probably email shaun m and ask his opinon about this | 02:54 |
| mdke | y? | 02:55 |
| jsgotangco | for future fixes =) | 02:55 |
| jsgotangco | make the caption become the navigation tag =) | 02:56 |
| mdke | ah not sure | 02:56 |
| mdke | so what shall we do? | 02:56 |
| jsgotangco | because if you notice in yelp, the caption appeared on the side | 02:56 |
| jsgotangco | but not at the bottom navigation | 02:56 |
| jsgotangco | ahhh | 02:59 |
| jsgotangco | i got it | 02:59 |
| jsgotangco | it looks better | 02:59 |
| mdke | ok | 02:59 |
| mdke | upload? | 02:59 |
| jsgotangco | i can't my networks not even running because of the lack of internet | 03:00 |
| jsgotangco | im on a phone line | 03:00 |
| jsgotangco | mdke: just move the whole <inlinemediaobject> block from <title> to <subtitle> | 03:00 |
| mdke | ok | 03:00 |
| jsgotangco | and enclose the string "About Ubuntu" inside <title> | 03:01 |
| jsgotangco | the image becomes the subtitle | 03:01 |
| mdke | so, <title>About Ubuntu</title>? | 03:01 |
| jsgotangco | yes | 03:01 |
| mdke | and <subtitle>Welcome to Ubuntu <image stuff></subtitle>? | 03:02 |
| mdke | or remove the subtitle text? | 03:02 |
| jsgotangco | remove the string | 03:02 |
| jsgotangco | it doesn't need one anymore | 03:02 |
| jsgotangco | because of the caption | 03:02 |
| jsgotangco | if there is no image the caption is shown | 03:02 |
| mdke | ok pasting in here | 03:02 |
| mdke | <title>About Ubuntu</title> | 03:02 |
| mdke | <subtitle> | 03:02 |
| mdke | <inlinemediaobject> | 03:02 |
| mdke | <imageobject> | 03:02 |
| mdke | <imagedata fileref="../../images/&language;/UbuntuLogo.png" format="PNG"/> | 03:02 |
| mdke | </imageobject> | 03:02 |
| mdke | </inlinemediaobject> | 03:02 |
| mdke | </subtitle> | 03:02 |
| mdke | which caption? | 03:02 |
| jsgotangco | there's no <caption>? | 03:03 |
| mdke | no i don't see one | 03:03 |
| jsgotangco | strange my source has one | 03:03 |
| jsgotangco | its supposed to be under <imageobject> | 03:03 |
| mdke | i'm in branches/breezy | 03:03 |
| jsgotangco | ah right | 03:03 |
| jsgotangco | hrmmm | 03:03 |
| mdke | maybe you put it in your wc | 03:03 |
| jsgotangco | this is a terribly old copy | 03:03 |
| mdke | ok gimme the caption | 03:03 |
| jsgotangco | ok just put <caption>Ubuntu Logo</caption> | 03:04 |
| mdke | where? | 03:04 |
| jsgotangco | after </imageobject> | 03:04 |
| mdke | k | 03:04 |
| jsgotangco | i'll co branch tommorow when the phone company fixes my line | 03:05 |
| mdke | it doesn't validate | 03:05 |
| jsgotangco | gyahh | 03:05 |
| mdke | this is what I have: | 03:06 |
| mdke | (pasting) | 03:06 |
| mdke | <title>About Ubuntu</title> | 03:06 |
| mdke | <subtitle> | 03:06 |
| mdke | <inlinemediaobject> | 03:06 |
| mdke | <imageobject> | 03:06 |
| mdke | <imagedata fileref="../../images/&language;/UbuntuLogo.png" format="PNG"/> | 03:06 |
| mdke | </imageobject> | 03:06 |
| mdke | <caption>Ubuntu Logo</caption> | 03:06 |
| mdke | </inlinemediaobject> | 03:06 |
| mdke | </subtitle> | 03:06 |
| jsgotangco | i guess it does not follow the DTD | 03:06 |
| mdke | it doesn't like it | 03:06 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 03:06 |
| mdke | let's scrap the image | 03:06 |
| jsgotangco | there's not supposed to be an image on subtitle | 03:06 |
| jsgotangco | but it'll open in yelp hehehe | 03:07 |
| jsgotangco | how crackful can you get | 03:07 |
| mdke | removing the image works for me | 03:08 |
| mdke | what do you think? | 03:08 |
| jsgotangco | eeekkk the other method is uglier, lets just scrap the image | 03:08 |
| jsgotangco | ive tried putting it in the body | 03:08 |
| jsgotangco | horrible | 03:08 |
| mdke | how come the second page has the title on it, but the third doesn't? | 03:09 |
| jsgotangco | should be | 03:09 |
| jsgotangco | Welcome to Ubuntu | 03:09 |
| mdke | nope | 03:10 |
| jsgotangco | 1. Welcome to Ubuntu | 03:10 |
| jsgotangco | 2. Participate in Ubuntu | 03:10 |
| jsgotangco | 3. Core Components | 03:10 |
| mdke | i mean | 03:10 |
| mdke | the first two pages have the title of the whole document on | 03:11 |
| mdke | the third doesn't | 03:11 |
| mdke | hence the image was on the first and second pages, but not the third | 03:11 |
| jsgotangco | what the heck | 03:12 |
| === jsgotangco wished we had a browser-based live editor | ||
| mdke | so what are we gonna do, remove the image? | 03:13 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 03:13 |
| jsgotangco | it'll fix everything | 03:13 |
| mdke | it will also mean that the firefox home page will not have the image | 03:14 |
| mdke | jdub, any thoughts on this? we have an issue with about-ubuntu.xml such that yelp can't show the document properly unless we remove the image | 03:14 |
| mdke | if we remove the image, yelp is happy and it looks fine | 03:14 |
| mdke | is that a problem for the firefox homepage? | 03:14 |
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| jdub | hrm, why does the image break in yelp? | 03:17 |
| mdke | because it is in the document title, and so it shows on the second page too, and looks silly | 03:19 |
| mdke | actually I might have a solution | 03:19 |
| mdke | jsgotangco, how about putting the image in the first paragraph of the first page? | 03:19 |
| jsgotangco | it doesn't look nice | 03:19 |
| mdke | like this: | 03:20 |
| mdke | http://mdke.org/au.png | 03:20 |
| jsgotangco | there's a toc at the top of the image | 03:20 |
| mdke | yes | 03:20 |
| mdke | the toc is wrong too :/ | 03:20 |
| mdke | the first page doesn't have a <sect1> | 03:21 |
| mdke | so you think that looks bad? | 03:21 |
| jsgotangco | it doesnt look bad..just awkward | 03:21 |
| mdke | ok I have made a <sect1> for the first page now, hang on | 03:22 |
| === mdke fiddles | ||
| mdke | jsgotangco, what about this: | 03:26 |
| mdke | http://mdke.org/au.png | 03:26 |
| mdke | http://mdke.org/welcome.png | 03:26 |
| jsgotangco | err what is About Ubuntu? it now has 4 sections | 03:27 |
| mdke | 3 sections | 03:27 |
| mdke | no good? | 03:27 |
| mdke | that is the only thing I can think of to keep the image | 03:27 |
| jdub | mdke: welcome.png looks great | 03:28 |
| jsgotangco | yeah but that's not the first page | 03:28 |
| jdub | what's on the about ubuntu page? | 03:28 |
| jsgotangco | that's the second | 03:28 |
| mdke | jdub, just the toc | 03:28 |
| jsgotangco | jdub: the toc | 03:28 |
| jdub | that's pretty icky | 03:28 |
| mdke | yeah | 03:28 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 03:28 |
| jdub | the first one looked fine | 03:28 |
| mdke | with the toc above the image? | 03:28 |
| jsgotangco | yeah that's better than this | 03:29 |
| mdke | ok lemme get that one back | 03:29 |
| mdke | ok like this? | 03:31 |
| mdke | http://mdke.org/au.png | 03:31 |
| mdke | jdub, jsgotangco ^ | 03:31 |
| jsgotangco | this isn't so bad | 03:32 |
| === mdke nods | ||
| jsgotangco | how come About Ubuntu is too small its supposed to be <title> | 03:32 |
| jsgotangco | must be your resolution | 03:33 |
| mdke | default breezy install here | 03:33 |
| mdke | so shall we go with that? | 03:33 |
| mdke | i'd like to see how the html looks | 03:34 |
| jsgotangco | pretty bad i'd say | 03:35 |
| mdke | what package do I need for the stylesheets? | 03:35 |
| jsgotangco | err docbook-xsl methinks | 03:37 |
| mdke | alright | 03:37 |
| mdke | so any thoughts? | 03:37 |
| mdke | can I commit this version? | 03:37 |
| jsgotangco | yes please | 03:38 |
| mdke | done | 03:39 |
| mdke | damn, the image is missing from the built html | 03:42 |
| jsgotangco | hrmm | 03:43 |
| jsgotangco | i gotta switch | 03:43 |
| jsgotangco | brb | 03:43 |
| mdke | maybe just a problem with the makefile | 03:43 |
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| segfault | hi | 05:45 |
| segfault | i generated the html file for aboutubuntu doc, however the "Welcome to Ubuntu" is not translated and it is not in the rosetta template | 05:46 |
| segfault | it is, however, in the original pot. | 05:46 |
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| mdke | segfault, maybe you didn't do it right | 08:02 |
| mdke | what language? | 08:02 |
| mdke | the ones I've downloaded from rosetta and uploaded look ok | 08:03 |
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| segfault | mdke: pt_BR | 08:37 |
| segfault | brazilian portuguese | 08:38 |
| segfault | it has 30 strings | 08:40 |
| segfault | but the original has 31 | 08:40 |
| segfault | well, dunno | 08:42 |
| segfault | lemme check again | 08:42 |
| segfault | :P | 08:42 |
| mdke | segfault, you are probably working on the wrong original | 08:47 |
| mdke | the correct one is in our breezy branch | 08:48 |
| segfault | which is not the same in rosetta? | 08:52 |
| mdke | segfault, erm... you need the original xml document in order to convert the translation to an xml file | 08:52 |
| mdke | this original is not in rosetta at all | 08:52 |
| mdke | it is in our repository | 08:52 |
| mdke | under branches/breezy | 08:53 |
| segfault | f0ae5a8ba03686fc4be1a87859575167 about-ubuntu.xml | 08:54 |
| segfault | this one? | 08:54 |
| mdke | not sure | 08:54 |
| mdke | where did you find that one? | 08:54 |
| segfault | svn checkout https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk ubuntu-doc | 08:54 |
| mdke | segfault, no, that is the trunk, the correct file is in branches/breezy | 08:55 |
| mdke | segfault, don't worry, we will take care of it | 08:55 |
| segfault | i'll get the repo, thanks anyway | 08:55 |
| mdke | ok | 08:56 |
| segfault | so the breezy one is frozen? | 08:57 |
| mdke | yep | 08:58 |
| sivang | mdke: ping | 09:06 |
| sivang | mdke: I saw your message from yesterday, about rtl in yelp? | 09:06 |
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| mdke | sivang, that's right but I don't have a lot of time now, could you mail the author of this email if you know how to help? | 10:53 |
| mdke | http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-doc-devel-list/2005-September/msg00024.html | 10:53 |
| mdke | thanks :) | 10:53 |
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