=== dand [n=dand@83.103.205.67] has joined #ubuntu-doc === avanspronsen [n=andrewv@London-HSE-ppp3544167.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robotgeek [n=robotgee@ppp-70-247-163-184.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jdub [n=jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === judax [n=troywill@ppp-70-129-201-39.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burglaptop [n=corey@S0106001217da6aab.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:11] bon soir, robitaille [08:12] hello Burglaptop [08:12] NM works! [09:03] robitaille, are we an approved loco team (ca) [09:03] Burglaptop, I don't think so. [09:04] robitaille, what needs to happen for that? [09:04] an approved team is one that appears to be a team, at least according to an email from Matthias a few weeks back. Until now, I don't think we have done enough to reach that goal. [09:05] once a team seems to be a "real" team, then he moves you up in the loco wiki page [09:06] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList [09:06] personally I don't disagree with that conclusion based on our activities in recent months === robitaille is searching for that email from smurfix [09:09] robitaille, parsing through LocoTeam, it is a good read [09:10] by the way, you are on their mailing list yet? loco-contacts@lists.ubuntu.com [09:10] will be soon [09:11] am now [09:12] oh maybe it wan't an email, but a comment in an old CC meeting... [09:12] s/wan't/wasn't [09:12] do we keep dates of old CC meetings somewhere on the wiki? [09:12] I will follow up on the Ubuntu Love Day at UBZ tomorrow [09:13] ouch, that is a lot of old log parsing [09:16] anyway, I have to sleep now [09:16] night [09:18] Burglaptop, still here? [09:19] I'll send you an email === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-41-168.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bojicas [n=bojicas@217.164.254.241] has joined #ubuntu-doc === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@bl5-53-9.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:20] morn === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dand [n=dand@83.103.205.67] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg@info1-43.info.com.ph] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:44] hey jsgotangco [02:44] hey [02:45] damn that change of terminal [02:45] yes [02:45] i think we should fix it [02:45] along with the relocation of Add Applications [02:45] you? [02:45] i have no idea how may strings are affected [02:45] we had warning of those from sabdfl before they made the changes, he asked in case they affected docs [02:46] oh right [02:46] damn my reply [02:46] please correct me [02:46] i dunno how many strings are affected either [02:46] probably loads [02:48] jsgotangco, so are we going to fix about-ubuntu? [02:48] it is quite a serious error IMO [02:49] it has been an error since warty [02:49] it is very ugly right now [02:49] yes because its so big === mdke nods [02:50] but if we use a small image, its uglier [02:50] is there no way to put it outside the title? [02:50] i tried it putting on subtitle but i got errors [02:50] maybe even after the subtitle? [02:51] yes that's the only way to go if we still include the logo [02:51] let me see how it looks [02:51] what tag is needed to put it after the subtitle? [02:51] haven't you noticed all docs in yelp don't have an image on the front/title [02:51] i don't look at yelp a lot ;) [02:52] lol [02:52] it might be that the best solution is to remove the image [02:52] let me check my wc [02:52] i'd move for removal [02:52] ok i'm happy with that [02:52] it doesn't affect the overall doc content just the look [02:53] shall we remove it and post to the list? [02:53] if there are objections we can revoke [02:54] gimme a minute heh i'm booting up my other laptop and look at the wc [02:54] i should probably email shaun m and ask his opinon about this [02:55] y? [02:55] for future fixes =) [02:56] make the caption become the navigation tag =) [02:56] ah not sure [02:56] so what shall we do? [02:56] because if you notice in yelp, the caption appeared on the side [02:56] but not at the bottom navigation [02:59] ahhh [02:59] i got it [02:59] it looks better [02:59] ok [02:59] upload? [03:00] i can't my networks not even running because of the lack of internet [03:00] im on a phone line [03:00] mdke: just move the whole block from to <subtitle> [03:00] <mdke> ok [03:01] <jsgotangco> and enclose the string "About Ubuntu" inside <title> [03:01] <jsgotangco> the image becomes the subtitle [03:01] <mdke> so, <title>About Ubuntu? [03:01] yes [03:02] and Welcome to Ubuntu ? [03:02] or remove the subtitle text? [03:02] remove the string [03:02] it doesn't need one anymore [03:02] because of the caption [03:02] if there is no image the caption is shown [03:02] ok pasting in here [03:02] About Ubuntu [03:02] [03:02] [03:02] [03:02] [03:02] [03:02] [03:02] [03:02] which caption? [03:03] there's no ? [03:03] no i don't see one [03:03] strange my source has one [03:03] its supposed to be under [03:03] i'm in branches/breezy [03:03] ah right [03:03] hrmmm [03:03] maybe you put it in your wc [03:03] this is a terribly old copy [03:03] ok gimme the caption [03:04] ok just put Ubuntu Logo [03:04] where? [03:04] after [03:04] k [03:05] i'll co branch tommorow when the phone company fixes my line [03:05] it doesn't validate [03:05] gyahh [03:06] this is what I have: [03:06] (pasting) [03:06] About Ubuntu [03:06] [03:06] [03:06] [03:06] [03:06] [03:06] Ubuntu Logo [03:06] [03:06] [03:06] i guess it does not follow the DTD [03:06] it doesn't like it [03:06] yeah [03:06] let's scrap the image [03:06] there's not supposed to be an image on subtitle [03:07] but it'll open in yelp hehehe [03:07] how crackful can you get [03:08] removing the image works for me [03:08] what do you think? [03:08] eeekkk the other method is uglier, lets just scrap the image [03:08] ive tried putting it in the body [03:08] horrible [03:09] how come the second page has the title on it, but the third doesn't? [03:09] should be [03:09] Welcome to Ubuntu [03:10] nope [03:10] 1. Welcome to Ubuntu [03:10] 2. Participate in Ubuntu [03:10] 3. Core Components [03:10] i mean [03:11] the first two pages have the title of the whole document on [03:11] the third doesn't [03:11] hence the image was on the first and second pages, but not the third [03:12] what the heck === jsgotangco wished we had a browser-based live editor [03:13] so what are we gonna do, remove the image? [03:13] yeah [03:13] it'll fix everything [03:14] it will also mean that the firefox home page will not have the image [03:14] jdub, any thoughts on this? we have an issue with about-ubuntu.xml such that yelp can't show the document properly unless we remove the image [03:14] if we remove the image, yelp is happy and it looks fine [03:14] is that a problem for the firefox homepage? === avanspronsen [n=andrewv@London-HSE-ppp3544167.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu-doc [03:17] hrm, why does the image break in yelp? [03:19] because it is in the document title, and so it shows on the second page too, and looks silly [03:19] actually I might have a solution [03:19] jsgotangco, how about putting the image in the first paragraph of the first page? [03:19] it doesn't look nice [03:20] like this: [03:20] http://mdke.org/au.png [03:20] there's a toc at the top of the image [03:20] yes [03:20] the toc is wrong too :/ [03:21] the first page doesn't have a [03:21] so you think that looks bad? [03:21] it doesnt look bad..just awkward [03:22] ok I have made a for the first page now, hang on === mdke fiddles [03:26] jsgotangco, what about this: [03:26] http://mdke.org/au.png [03:26] http://mdke.org/welcome.png [03:27] err what is About Ubuntu? it now has 4 sections [03:27] 3 sections [03:27] no good? [03:27] that is the only thing I can think of to keep the image [03:28] mdke: welcome.png looks great [03:28] yeah but that's not the first page [03:28] what's on the about ubuntu page? [03:28] that's the second [03:28] jdub, just the toc [03:28] jdub: the toc [03:28] that's pretty icky [03:28] yeah [03:28] yeah [03:28] the first one looked fine [03:28] with the toc above the image? [03:29] yeah that's better than this [03:29] ok lemme get that one back [03:31] ok like this? [03:31] http://mdke.org/au.png [03:31] jdub, jsgotangco ^ [03:32] this isn't so bad === mdke nods [03:32] how come About Ubuntu is too small its supposed to be [03:33] <jsgotangco> must be your resolution [03:33] <mdke> default breezy install here [03:33] <mdke> so shall we go with that? [03:34] <mdke> i'd like to see how the html looks [03:35] <jsgotangco> pretty bad i'd say [03:35] <mdke> what package do I need for the stylesheets? [03:37] <jsgotangco> err docbook-xsl methinks [03:37] <mdke> alright [03:37] <mdke> so any thoughts? [03:37] <mdke> can I commit this version? [03:38] <jsgotangco> yes please [03:39] <mdke> done [03:42] <mdke> damn, the image is missing from the built html [03:43] <jsgotangco> hrmm [03:43] <jsgotangco> i gotta switch [03:43] <jsgotangco> brb [03:43] <mdke> maybe just a problem with the makefile === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === thoreauput1c [n=prospero@wolax8-099.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bojicas [n=bojicas@217.164.201.114] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mez_ [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke_ [n=matt@81-178-223-231.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke__ [n=matt@81-178-203-120.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax8-099.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] [05:45] <segfault> hi [05:46] <segfault> i generated the html file for aboutubuntu doc, however the "Welcome to Ubuntu" is not translated and it is not in the rosetta template [05:46] <segfault> it is, however, in the original pot. === thoreauput1c [n=prospero@wolax6-102.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === pedri2 [n=pedri2@203.215.115.150] has joined #ubuntu-doc === pedri2 [n=pedri2@203.215.115.150] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Konversation] === dand [n=dand@83.103.205.67] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bojicas [n=bojicas@we1075.alshamil.net.ae] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:02] <mdke> segfault, maybe you didn't do it right [08:02] <mdke> what language? [08:03] <mdke> the ones I've downloaded from rosetta and uploaded look ok === Burglaptop [n=corey@S0106001217da6aab.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax6-102.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dand [n=dand@83.103.205.67] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:37] <segfault> mdke: pt_BR [08:38] <segfault> brazilian portuguese [08:40] <segfault> it has 30 strings [08:40] <segfault> but the original has 31 [08:42] <segfault> well, dunno [08:42] <segfault> lemme check again [08:42] <segfault> :P [08:47] <mdke> segfault, you are probably working on the wrong original [08:48] <mdke> the correct one is in our breezy branch [08:52] <segfault> which is not the same in rosetta? [08:52] <mdke> segfault, erm... you need the original xml document in order to convert the translation to an xml file [08:52] <mdke> this original is not in rosetta at all [08:52] <mdke> it is in our repository [08:53] <mdke> under branches/breezy [08:54] <segfault> f0ae5a8ba03686fc4be1a87859575167 about-ubuntu.xml [08:54] <segfault> this one? [08:54] <mdke> not sure [08:54] <mdke> where did you find that one? [08:54] <segfault> svn checkout https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/trunk ubuntu-doc [08:55] <mdke> segfault, no, that is the trunk, the correct file is in branches/breezy [08:55] <mdke> segfault, don't worry, we will take care of it [08:55] <segfault> i'll get the repo, thanks anyway [08:56] <mdke> ok [08:57] <segfault> so the breezy one is frozen? [08:58] <mdke> yep [09:06] <sivang> mdke: ping [09:06] <sivang> mdke: I saw your message from yesterday, about rtl in yelp? === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-41-168.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:53] <mdke> sivang, that's right but I don't have a lot of time now, could you mail the author of this email if you know how to help? [10:53] <mdke> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-doc-devel-list/2005-September/msg00024.html [10:53] <mdke> thanks :)