=== mbreit [n=mo@p54877D51.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _tonio [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:07] <_tonio> hi all [12:07] <_tonio> little question about packaging [12:08] <_tonio> how to resolv the deps problem if one of the required packages is in multiverse (mplayer in my case) [12:09] what pool is your package in? [12:10] if your package has b-d on a package in multiverse, your package needs to be [demoted to] in multiverse [12:11] <_tonio> universe [12:11] <_tonio> damn ;) [12:11] <_tonio> Okay so I cannot post it to REVU can I ? [12:12] <_tonio> I'm trying to package soundkonverter in fact, which depends on many tools including mplayer [12:12] sure you can, but you either need to disable the compile option that requires the b-d on the multiverse package, or you need to ask for your package to be demoted to multiverse [12:13] <_tonio> okay, and how to resolv the multiverse problem with pbuilder ? [12:13] battery's about to die, back in a bit [12:13] <_tonio> can it make use of multiverse ? [12:13] <_tonio> okay thanks for your help ;) [12:13] sure, just make sure multiverse is in your pbuilder's sources.list [12:13] remember that will only work for a local build [12:13] can't programmer program cleanly? [12:13] it will fail horribly on our buildds [12:15] <_tonio> okay crimsun thanks ;) [12:16] <_tonio> That doesn't resolv my problem because I will not be able to upload it, or built will fail..... I will look for solution... === shawarma [n=sh@3E6B503C.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jcape_ [n=jcape@c-24-14-116-227.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phlaegel [n=phlaegel@atdot.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xTina [n=xTina@p54A2778C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xTina [n=xTina@p54A2778C.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [12:59] the lesstif package seems to be broken and needs a recompile against current libraries; I already added a comment to #14943, but I'm not sure if I should open a new bug on lesstif directly? [01:12] hi everyone [01:12] Heya bmonty [01:13] \sh_away: pong [01:15] <_tonio> little question, what to add to "rules" to let pbuilder use qmake instead of make ? [01:15] <_tonio> I have a Makefile generated with qmake and no makefile.in [01:15] <_tonio> pbuilder just fails...... === jtan325 [n=jtan325@c-24-19-241-133.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:16] _tonio: is qmake installed in your pbuilder (i.e. is it a build dep?) [01:17] <_tonio> in my pbuilder ? I don't understand..... with my packages you mean ? [01:18] <_tonio> did I put qmake in the dependancies ? yes [01:18] what is the error that you get when it fails? [01:18] <_tonio> no makefile found [01:19] <_tonio> because I don't have any makefile.in file in the tarball, but I have a "makefile" [01:19] <_tonio> sounds a bit strange but that's it [01:20] do you have to use -f if the makefile isn't named "Makefile"? [01:21] <_tonio> not sure....... I surely have to make a few tests..... [01:21] <_tonio> maybe just use qmake without options in the rules file.... I'll make some tests [01:25] ping j^ [01:27] Doesn't qmake use .pro files? [01:28] <_tonio> bddebian: I don't know exactly qmake, I just used it once... [01:28] <_tonio> here is the first line of the "Makefile" I have [01:29] <_tonio> # Makefile for building: klear [01:29] <_tonio> # Generated by qmake (1.07a) (Qt 3.3.4) on: Sat Sep 10 12:31:47 2005 [01:29] <_tonio> # Project: klear.pro [01:29] <_tonio> it seems that I have tu use a .pro file and yes I have it ;) but what to add in "debian/rules" for this ? [01:30] _tonio: add the qmake commands to build the makefile [01:30] and then run it [01:30] You should just be able to swap make/makefile.in with qmake/*.pro respectively I think [01:32] <_tonio> I'm trying this ;) [01:34] <_tonio> bddebian: the problem is that I'm using cdbs, and there is certainly a specific flag to make use of qmake, but I haven't been able to find... [01:35] Sorry, I know little to nothing of cdbs :-( [01:36] <_tonio> I'm not a specialist also, but is simplifies a LOT ;) therefore I can have problems for example in this case ;) === nathanel [i=magiQ@p5492C555.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-83-33.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:32] <_tonio> kubuntu-devel === mrfrost [n=mrfrost@dsl-084-056-114-000.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mrfrost [n=mrfrost@dsl-084-056-114-000.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mrfrost [n=mrfrost@dsl-084-056-114-000.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Konversation] === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5487C5F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jm__@202.172.110.155] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sjg [n=jason@adsl-67-117-27-129.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jmech [n=mechnich@p549FAA30.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-136-219.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-84-9-34-234.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:45] Malone should be used for Universe bugs, no? [04:46] searching by sourcepackagename doesn't find KPackage (while it is in Universe, both Breezy+Hoary) [05:03] apokryphos: Malong should be used for universe bugs. It's bug day, so bug activity is currently coordinated on #ubuntu-bugs [05:03] persia: I take it universe bugs means packages in universe ;-), but nevermind, I'll note there, thanks :) === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === seth_k|lappy [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jblack [i=jblack@static-209-158-45-74.scr.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === mae [n=mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jtan325 [n=jtan325@c-24-19-241-133.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === janm [n=jm__@202.172.110.60] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === comadreja [n=comadrej@224.Red-83-41-20.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:01] morning [09:02] morning :) === dooglus_ [n=dooglus@r2m7.chello.upc.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@p3101-ipbf412marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === maradong [n=bhentges@vodsl-4166.vo.lu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:34] where does postfix place logfiles by default? [09:39] /var/log/mail.{log,info,err} iirc [09:40] ok, thanks === siretart loves exim.. === Lathiat hates !postfix, loves postfix. :) [09:42] :) [09:42] perhaps I should read more documentation of postfix === Treenaks [n=martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:00] <\sh> moins === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-108-247.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === \sh is a bit p*ssed this morning [10:06] at someone? at something? [10:07] <\sh> read the planet...4:34 UTC I got my wakeup call from my provider, that my webserver was down... [10:08] <\sh> shitty shitty scriptkiddie bang bang [10:08] ick, that blows [10:09] <\sh> one weblog was not fixed..and allmighty XMPRPC PHP bog hit me [10:09] <\sh> I informed the admin of this vhost and shut this service down... [10:10] <\sh> I checked my system and found a nice botnet crap in /tmp/ [10:10] <\sh> to be precisley: /tmp/.../.httpd/ ,-) [10:11] \sh: good luck with it [10:11] <\sh> Treenaks: all over...I discovered the scriptkiddies [10:11] <\sh> .ru [10:12] \sh: SERVER 132.207.4.32 points to step.polymtl.ca That's a big enginerring school in Montreal. You could even visit them next month [10:12] <\sh> well...the first ip is lycos europe..my ex-teamleader is contact person ;) [10:13] <\sh> I mean, they should invest their time in real hacking not in trying out old bugs [10:13] hi \sh [10:13] <\sh> or they should come around and help developing a better ubuntu [10:13] <\sh> hey siretart [10:15] <\sh> the only thing what disturbs me and got me angry is the time, my provider was sending the sms..it was in the middle of my night ,) [10:15] understandable [10:24] <\sh> oh man..u guys hexed yesterday evening a lot ;) reading -changes ;) [10:26] crimsun: thanks for taking care of openafs [10:27] <\sh> http://www.minisip.org/ [10:29] crimsun: If you got some time I would apreciate if you could upload/sync openafs-doc too. It's a separate source package nowdays === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:31] hello [10:35] hi pef! [10:36] I have now free time to help you :) I will certainly help with desktop files [10:37] great! :) [10:38] the quality of debian packages is a myth or a reallity ? [10:38] quite far from myth; definitely a reality [10:38] <\sh> ghc6 is ok can we deal with the unmet deps? [10:40] crimsun: so I have no luck with them :) I find some packages with diff about 1M, library as Recommends, etc === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:42] \sh: ghc6 and darcs are looking fine, at least on i386] [10:43] <\sh> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/g/ghc6/6.4-4.1ubuntu2/ <- this? [10:46] yeah, looks fine to me [10:46] <\sh> ok..so we can deal with them ;) [10:47] <\sh> grmpf [10:47] <\sh> siretart: are u haskell specialist? please have a look, when u have time, on hmake ;) === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487C5F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:51] <\sh> brb [10:51] \sh: sistpoty is ;) === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-41-168.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:12] <\sh> siretart: ok ;) [11:16] <\sh> hmmm...should I go out to have breakfast? [11:16] certainly === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-12-143.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === |apokryp| [n=apokryph@host-87-74-29-244.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:47] <\sh> ok..going out for breakfast or actually it's lunch time ;) === doko_ [n=doko@dsl-084-059-097-230.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-83-29.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:02] yay finally found that londonlaw/wxpython b00g [12:12] great === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1151.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch is tempted to setup his laptop again with cryptroot [12:13] hi [12:13] hey ivoks [12:13] ajmitch: yeah, me too :) [12:13] since it has my gpg & ssh keys on it [12:14] i will do a reinstall as soon as breezy is out [12:14] or maybe even with snapshot [12:14] I've already customised my install a bit - I think I could probably convert the running system to cryptroot [12:14] only 11GB of LVM space is currently allocated on it [12:15] ajmitch: and you have crypted partitions? [12:15] not yet [12:15] i tried to setup that once, and failed [12:15] still got 16GB unallocated in the VG [12:15] :) [12:15] hm... does gvm understands crypted usb keys? [12:16] s/keys/sticks [12:16] yes [12:16] pitti announced basic support for that awhile ago [12:16] hm... tempted :) [12:17] if I had a usb key I'd certainly use it crypted [12:17] only problem is that's unusable elsewhere [12:18] wouldn't worry me [12:18] you can partition your key [12:18] yes, that's what i'm thinking right now... [12:19] we should put iFolder in breezy+1 [12:19] aha, he has a mini-howto posted on jul 16 to ubuntu-devel [12:19] umm [12:19] we've already talked about ifolder [12:19] there's an issue with a proprietary lib, iirc [12:19] hm... [12:20] that's bad [12:20] yes [12:20] I can't recall what the conclusion was [12:20] but we have looked at it :) [12:21] ifolder.com - Open Source iFolder Project [12:21] but the lib... :/// [12:22] libflaim, iirc [12:22] yes [12:22] but: [12:22] iFolder 3.2 Goals [12:22] we'll see what we can do for dapper (and debian) [12:22] Replace the Flaim database with an open source solution [12:23] http://www.ifolder.com/index.php/Project_Roadmap [12:23] 3.1 is current [12:23] yeah... [12:23] so, that could be soon [12:24] probably just after breezy release :) [12:24] :) [12:24] they say that even libfalim could go open source [12:24] however that's for simias [12:24] I think the ifolder client is fully open source [12:24] client is [12:24] but I don't know how useful it is without the server [12:25] it's not [12:26] ifolder+avahi will be really good [12:27] <\sh> back...have my breakfast at home...to sunny outside [12:27] hey \sh [12:27] ajmitch: yes [12:28] what is flaim [12:28] <\sh> hey ajmitch :) [12:28] Lathiat: bad library :) [12:28] Lathiat: heh, you highlight on avahi in channels now? ;) [12:29] ajmitch: yeh [12:29] ajmitch: altho i was reading the conversation before [12:29] would ifolder be able to work over avahi? [12:29] if it were hacked up to do so, yes [12:30] I'd say someone would be working on a patch asap [12:30] hm [12:30] but who? :) === ivoks looks :) [12:30] ifolder 3.1 goals [12:30] - peer-to-peer domain enabled in simias with simias-bonnjour package [12:31] Lathiat: you talked to calvin about it, right? [12:31] ajmitch: nope, i havent really touched ifolder ever [12:31] i tried it once and couldnt get it to work [12:31] ah, I thought you had.. [12:31] that was a long time ago tho [12:31] I recall now, Mez was trying to package it, had been talking to him [12:32] beyond 3.2 goals.. tomboy & f-spot.. ;) [12:32] f-spot looks nice [12:33] it is [12:33] f-Spot [12:33] :/ [12:34] ? === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1021.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:52] eh [12:52] pitti rulz [12:53] heh [12:53] what did you setup? [12:56] usb stick [12:56] when you plug it in, asks for pass [12:57] <\sh> ?? [12:57] <\sh> what is it? [12:57] \sh: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2005-July/008982.html [12:58] we should write gui for this [12:59] <\sh> why he didn't blog it ,-) [12:59] :) [01:01] \sh: because he posted it to the devel list? :) === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] <\sh> he should blog those things, so i can read it with my akregator ,-) [01:02] <\sh> You know, blogs are kewl ,-) and they're quite strange [01:02] hehe [01:03] hello rob^ [01:04] <\sh> this morning I read an article on Kai Ravens Blog (he's blogging about security issues in RL + Internet stuff), there was a link to a blog of a woman named "Jane"...she's writing as well about security issues in RL+Internet...and on her blog I found a link to a blog, which belongs to an old friend of mine, and I didn't know that she's still alive ;) === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@p3101-ipbf412marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:06] small world :) [01:06] hi persia [01:06] <\sh> ajmitch: yes [01:07] hi ajmitch. I tried to take a break to play games, but found a bug (and the fix). Malone #2392. [01:08] ok === ajmitch fetches [01:08] ajmitch: Thank you. === herzi [n=herzi@p548DEB78.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === persia [n=persia@p3101-ipbf412marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [01:10] hmm [01:10] coreutils has 318 open bugs in debian :) [01:14] <\sh> wow === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@adsl229-164.unizar.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu === AstralJava [n=jaska@83.102.38.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === PlanarPlatypus [n=Peter@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jc-denton [n=nils@zux173-061.adsl.green.ch] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === shackan [n=shackan@host145-124.pool8260.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shackan [n=shackan@host122-81.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:42] Heya gang === xerxas [n=xerxas@233.31.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === blueyed [n=daniel@iD4CC1D90.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@220-244-253-135-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas [n=xerxas@246.174.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:27] <\sh> bang....just trying to clean up my bugzilla bug list [03:27] <\sh> libhid *gnarf* [03:28] hi everybody :) [03:28] <\sh> hey slomo === ChrisJ79 [n=ChrisJ79@sasser.cs.Dal.Ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:29] <\sh> slomo: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/distribute.html <- u uploaded latest acrobat, right?? [03:30] no [03:30] i hate acrobat reader :P [03:30] <\sh> who was it then [03:30] why do you think i uploaded it? is there nothing written in the changelog? [03:30] <\sh> siretart: ah ;) [03:31] noone should have uploaded it [03:31] <\sh> Betreff: Accepted acroread 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (source) [03:31] <\sh> Datum: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:25:09 +0100 (BST) (23:25 CEST) [03:31] <\sh> or is it only a meta package? === ajmitch wonders how it could be there [03:32] nope [03:32] 39477207 non-free/text optional acroread_7.0.1.orig.tar.gz [03:32] something that large is not a meta package [03:32] <\sh> yeah see it right now :( [03:32] synced from debian non-free [03:33] looks like marillat... not debian non-free [03:33] hi [03:33] <\sh> siretart: Betreff: Accepted acroread 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (source) [03:33] <\sh> Datum: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 22:25:09 +0100 (BST) (23:25 CEST) [03:33] I took acroread from pantera [03:33] <\sh> siretart: did u see this? http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/distribute.html [03:33] whats the problem with it? [03:33] <\sh> siretart: do we have a permission to redistribute? ,-) [03:34] is the UVF policy for universe written down so people can see it? [03:34] \sh: hm. :( [03:34] <\sh> ajmitch: we handle UVF not as main handles it ... we will do this for dapper [03:35] \sh: in the package, there wasn't any significant change in licence. but I admit, that I didn't investigate the adobe website further [03:35] \sh: no, there are UVF policies that we agreed on for universe [03:35] \sh: this lack of knowledge about it is a problem [03:35] UVF ?? [03:35] upstream version freeze [03:36] thanks [03:36] the previous version had security issues, only fixable with the new upstream version [03:36] <\sh> if it fixes a bug we should use new version [03:36] \sh: sure, but the policies were that UVF breakages had to be approved by certain people [03:36] thats why I uploaded the new version. if we may not redistribute acroread, we can remove that anyway === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:37] ajmitch is right, my bad [03:38] well, I asked dholbach and \sh, they didn't object [03:38] <\sh> siretart: yeah...but now I read the new terms === ajmitch found the TB meeting where we agreed, fwiw [03:40] ajmitch: do you have a link to the minutes? [03:40] Was I there? SInce I'm the one in trouble? :-) [03:41] bddebian: it's not just you [03:41] siretart: I might do - I found it grepping through my irc logs on my box :) [03:41] bddebian: it's almost us all ;) === shackan [n=shackan@host155-92.pool871.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:43] ajmitch: never mind [03:43] july 13 [03:43] we should discuss this the next motu meeting [03:43] I guess we just have to scrap the UVF idea now [03:43] since noone sticks to it :) [03:43] next MOTU meeting is soon, isn't it? [03:44] ah yes, in a couple of days [03:44] <\sh> ajmitch: ;) [03:44] on thursday === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:45] \sh: what do you suggest regarding acroread? [03:46] if the license does state we can't redistribute it, then we *have* to remove it from the archive ASAP [03:46] so you'd have to contact elmo I think [03:46] guys, acroreads license was discussed to an extend with sabdfl please leave it alone except for fixing [03:46] ogra: is it? [03:46] yup... [03:46] ogra: so what's the status? [03:47] <\sh> hmmm [03:47] is it working ? [03:47] I uploaded a new version yesterday, fixing some security issues (malone bugnr mentioned in changelog) [03:47] thats fine, is it working now ? [03:48] <\sh> yes [03:48] for me [tm] . yes ;) [03:48] great, so just leave it alone... [03:48] ;) [03:48] <\sh> hmmm...how can I determine the version of autocrap stuff, e.g. determine which version I should use to rebuild this crap? [03:48] elmo and sabdfl are aware of the license... [03:49] (except it changed with the recent upload) [03:49] ogra: you'll be at the meeting to clarify whatever UVF stuff we might have (and ignore?) :) [03:49] \sh: look at the configure.ac... there is a minimum version specified when it's done correct [03:49] simple rolese of thumb: if it fixes something, if a big user demad is there or if the version we have blocks something else, break UVF [03:50] \sh: otherwise... automake 1.8 / autoconf 2.5? worked for me with everything ;) [03:50] we didnt make real rules this time and i think all delegates are able to decide themselves if or if not an UVF brekage make sense [03:51] ogra: more the issue of motus not asking for uvf exceptions [03:51] yes, thats odd... [03:51] but just uploading or requesting syncs [03:51] hmm [03:51] <\sh> slomo: this is autoconf..but what about aclocal/automake? [03:51] so lets make a list and talk to them why they dont respect the rules we worked out together === jorgp3 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-161.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:52] i don't think this was noted well enough for the new motus to know :) [03:52] can someone load up http://62.255.32.16/ and see if they can connect ? [03:52] <\sh> or i have to compile it with python2.3 === thoreauput1c [n=prospero@wolax8-099.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:52] ogra: we'll talk about it at the motu meeting on thursday, I guess [03:52] ajmitch, i guess we'll have to fully comply to all freezes in dapper anyway, to make sure universe is fit enough for 5 years of support === ajmitch has to sleep now :) [03:52] certainly [03:53] can anyone? [03:53] I don't know how dapper's 5 year plan will fit with universe though [03:53] Mez: 403 [03:53] me neither, but its there :)( [03:53] s/(// [03:53] 403? [03:53] ajmitch: a nice rule of thumb is "when in doubt, ask", since it's so much better to ask about a sync too much than a sync too little. [03:53] ogra: true.. so we'll have a lot of work to do [03:53] <\sh> ./configure: line 1952: syntax error near unexpected token `pedantic,' [03:53] <\sh> ./configure: line 1952: `MD_ARG_ENABLE_CUSTOM(pedantic, pedantic compiler checks, no)' [03:53] ajmitch: but it connects? [03:54] Mithrandir: yeah, it's just some syncs requested have been a bit broken :) [03:54] Mez: yes [03:54] we'll just have to start earlier the next time, which was blocked this time due to the several transitions [03:54] ajmitch: so make them atone by buying beer at UBZ (if they'll be there) [03:54] ogra: I think dapper ought to be smoother for transitions [03:54] yup [03:54] <\sh> wx2.6 ;) [03:54] <\sh> crap crap [03:55] sid ought to be smoother by then as well [03:55] ajmitch, which syncs where that ? [03:55] hmm [03:55] do we have a list... ` [03:55] weird [03:55] ? [03:55] ogra: not a list, there have just been a couple of packages I've followed up on with a new upload after the sync [03:56] we should identify the uploaders and talk to them, probably the UVF stuff wasnt clear enough [03:56] yep [03:56] thats why i asked for a list... [03:56] I've done so :) [03:56] oki ;) [03:57] <\sh> argl [03:57] <\sh> I'm a autocrap n00b [03:57] ajmitch, btw, awesome work with the bugday, i never manager to get this many people in #ubuntu-bugs ... and kudos to persia (s)/he owns the channel [03:57] <\sh> aclocal-1.7 -I ./m4 ,-> [03:57] ogra: I didn't have to do much [03:57] ogra: persia & others did most of the work [03:58] ajmitch, but you achieved more than me ;) === bddebian hides [03:58] bddebian, kudos as well ;) [03:58] I'm hiding about UVF uploaders ;-) [03:58] ogra: we'll arrange for more bug days during the dapper cycle then [03:58] yup [03:59] getting a group of people to discuss the bugs & work on it seems to have worked well [03:59] we'll probably have and official bugmaster by then === bddebian votes for persia ;-) [03:59] probably [03:59] ogra: you won't be the bug master? :) [03:59] (its wanted, we sadly missed to get luis :( ) [04:00] ogra: someone employed, or some poor volunteer? [04:00] ajmitch, depends how edubuntu will go on... if it still is my main responsibility i wont have time [04:01] i guess someone will get hired if we dont get volunteers... but i'm not the one to decide such things so dont take me serious here ;) [04:01] yep === ajmitch doesn't think he'll be stepping forth as bug master any time soon :) [04:04] ok, time for sleep, see you tomorrow === ogra goes voting [04:10] <\sh> gnarf [04:10] <\sh> fixed libhid [04:11] \sh: congrats :) what was broken? [04:12] ajmitch: what about making a bug day every half month/15 days? [04:12] hi everyone [04:13] <\sh> not fixed [04:13] <\sh> gnarf [04:14] <\sh> slomo: python2.4 === jamessan [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:16] <\sh> but now ;) [04:16] <\sh> fcking workarounds [04:17] <\sh> I will kick madduck ;) === mez_ [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:21] \sh: were you able to try a build with ace? [04:21] <\sh> bmonty_laptop: infinity did :) [04:22] <\sh> bmonty_laptop: uploaded...u forget to mention one switch for 00options [04:22] <\sh> 14:54 #ubuntu-devel: < infinity> \sh : For future reference, using CPP preprocessing in 00list doesn't work unless you enable dpatch's optional CPP parsing. :) (DPATCH_OPTION_CPP=1 in debian/patches/00options) [04:23] didn't know that [04:23] but removing the flag for a powerpc and amd64 build made it work? [04:23] <\sh> yes === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:24] <\sh> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/a/ace/5.4.7-3ubuntu1/ace_5.4.7-3ubuntu1_20050918-1411-i386-successful.gz [04:24] <\sh> http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/a/ace/5.4.7-3ubuntu1/ace_5.4.7-3ubuntu1_20050918-1408-amd64-successful.gz === Mez sits back for a couple of years and hopes that this works === jorgp3 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-161.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shawarma [n=sh@3E6B503C.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamessan|laptop [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:39] hi Mez! [04:39] hey siretart, sup [04:43] <\sh> hmm..one beer for me pls [04:43] <\sh> i fixed bloody libhid [04:44] <\sh> cheers guys === jorgp3 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-161.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@p5089D26C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo orders one beer for \sh :) === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fred_ [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fred__ [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shawarma [n=sh@3E6B503C.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:31] <\sh> bah...stinky package [05:31] <\sh> determines version numbers via aclocal.m4 and debian/changelog and gets fuzzy with -XubuntuY === pef [n=pef@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax8-099.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === maradong [n=bhentges@vodsl-4166.vo.lu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _tonio [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:56] \sh: shall i upload libmms? [05:58] <\sh> slomo: it's promoted ;) [05:59] \sh: what do you want to tell me with that? ;) it has 2 votes but is not uploaded yet? or it's in NEW? ;) [06:00] <_tonio> hello [06:00] <_tonio> I have a litle question concerning the usage of dpatch, I read about all documentation with it [06:01] <_tonio> but when I want to create a patch, launching dpatch-edit-patch, I get an error message [06:01] _tonio: what error? (not that i use dpatch-edit-patch...) [06:01] <_tonio> make: *** Pas de rgle pour fabriquer la cible unpatch . Arrt. [06:02] <_tonio> which litteraly means (no rules to create target . stop === thoreauput1c [n=prospero@wolax6-102.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === redrums [n=redrum@193.151.40.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:02] _tonio: did you include the dpatch script in rules? [06:02] man dpatch.make [06:03] <\sh> slomo: upload it :) 2 motus are enough :) [06:03] <_tonio> include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/simple-patchsys.mk [06:03] <_tonio> isn't that ok ? is that another patch system ? [06:03] \sh: ok... i just wanted to know if it's already in NEW =) i hate REJECTED mails :P === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-29-244.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:03] _tonio: that is the cdbs patch system [06:04] I think you have to use cdbs-edit-patch instread [06:04] <_tonio> ahhhhhhhhhhh oki ;) [06:04] <_tonio> works the same way ? [06:04] <\sh> slomo: not that I know off [06:04] <\sh> slomo: but check breezy-changes ;) you should get accepted or it must be shown up there..NEW==not in overrides [06:05] _tonio: I think so, I haven't used the cdbs patch system...I think the concept is the same [06:05] <\sh> doing some RL work...brb [06:05] \sh: it's only on breezy-changes when it's out of NEW [06:06] <_tonio> okay, I'm building the last version of qtparted, and the code is a mess, you cannot imagine ! === slomo [n=slomo@p5487C5F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:14] <_tonio> is there a problem on revu ? [06:14] <_tonio> I get this during upload : [06:14] <_tonio> Uploading via ftp kinstaller_0.2-0ubuntu1.dsc: Error '553 Could not create file.' during ftp transfer of kinstaller_0.2-0ubuntu1.dsc [06:14] <_tonio> Note: This problem might be caused by files already existent on the server. === herzi [n=herzi@c182253.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:19] <\sh> slomo: yes..but u should get a kati mail..and I didn't upload anything from revu in the last days;) [06:20] \sh: no... he should get a katie mail ;) well, it's uploaded now :) [06:21] <\sh> slomo: if he's whitelisted ;) [06:21] \sh: he most probably isn't :P [06:23] <\sh> bah I hate libhid === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:33] <\sh> HOLY SHIT i did it now [06:34] <\sh> but with auto* dance in rules...the rest was to crappy ;) === bmonty_laptop [n=bmontgom@wsip-68-15-230-31.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Treenaks [n=martijn@messy.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:00] <_tonio> concerning packages that have a multiverse dep [07:00] <_tonio> what is the process for testing the package threw pbuilder, and of course uploading it ? [07:02] _tonio: wait, I'll check the upload queue === redrum [n=redrum@193.151.40.11] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:02] <\sh> _tonio: become a motu [07:02] _tonio: yes, there were some leftover files, please reupload [07:02] <\sh> or to revu? [07:03] <_tonio> thanks siretart [07:04] <_tonio> \sh: in fact I wanna package soundkonverter [07:04] <_tonio> it has mplayer dependency, and I would like to upload it, that app rocks ! [07:05] _tonio: did you upload kmplayer? [07:05] <_tonio> but don't know the process in fact..... Becoming a motu is in my plans, but I don't have time actually to get my key signed.... === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-83-33.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:05] <_tonio> yep, but without mplayer, because this dep is optionnal it can use xine, ffmpeg etc... [07:05] <_tonio> I will correct it and put mplayer in "Recommended" maybe. [07:06] _tonio: ok, may I archive your upload. you didn't answer on daniels question since aug 4 [07:06] <_tonio> let me check...... I dont think so, i'm doing it tight now, just a sec ;) === chribo [n=chribo@81-225-186-196-o285.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:10] <_tonio> Ho last version has a very clean debian folder, nice ;) === sedak [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:13] _tonio: so you will definitly do another kmplayer upload? [07:14] <_tonio> yep, certainly another new upload, with mplayer-386 in recommended to avoid the universe limit [07:14] <_tonio> is that a correct way to process siretart ? [07:15] why mplayer-386? what about ppc and amd64 users? [07:16] and remember, mplayer is in multiverse, you may not depend or recommend (suggest is imo okay) on packages in multiverse in packages in universe [07:16] <_tonio> your're right.... [07:17] <_tonio> siretart: which one is generic ? mplayer-nogui ? [07:18] _tonio: check the mplayer packages, at least mplayer-386 Provides: mplayer [07:20] <_tonio> siretart: you mean ? sorry my english is sometime a bit limited ;) [07:20] <_tonio> in fact I don't see any package for amd64 or mac.... [07:21] <\sh> hmmm [07:21] _tonio: for mplayer dependencies look at mozilla-mplayer [07:22] _tonio: the amd64 package is just mplayer... the mac ones are mplayer-powerpc and mplayer-g4 [07:22] <\sh> what the hack is this ? [07:22] <\sh> can someone show on wxwindows2.4 and what is the version? [07:22] <_tonio> slomo: I don't see those packages ;) Specific repos ? [07:23] \sh: W: Unable to locate package wxwindows2.4 [07:23] _tonio: just multiverse ;) [07:23] <\sh> apt-cache showsrc wxwindows2.4 [07:24] \sh: Version: 2.4.4.1ubuntu1 === chribo [n=chribo@81-225-186-196-o285.telia.com] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [07:24] <\sh> and now check your unmet deps [07:24] \sh: hmm... the version number is unusual ;) === dooglus_ [n=dooglus@r2m7.chello.upc.cz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:24] <\sh> LC_ALL=C apt-cache -i unmet [07:24] <\sh> for wxpython2.4-1 [07:25] \sh: LC_ALL=C apt-cache -i unmet | grep wxp [07:25] \sh: finds nothing [07:25] <\sh> slomo: do an update ;) [07:25] <\sh> Package wxpython2.4-1 version 2.4.4ubuntu6 has an unmet dep: Depends: libwxgtk2.4-1-python (= 2.4.4ubuntu6) [07:25] <\sh> but i can't find any package in debian/control of the source [07:26] \sh: wxpython2.4-1 is deprecated afaik... it's python-wxgtk2.4 or similar now [07:26] \sh: maybe an old package in the archives [07:27] <\sh> Package: python-wxtools [07:27] <\sh> Architecture: all [07:27] <\sh> Section: python [07:27] <\sh> Depends: python-wxgtk2.4, ${shlibs:Depends} [07:27] <\sh> Conflicts: libwxgtk2.4-python, wxpython2.4-1 [07:27] <\sh> Replaces: libwxgtk2.4-python, wxpython2.4-1 [07:28] \sh: change the depends [07:28] \sh: python-wxgtk2.4 [07:28] \sh: I have only an unmet dep on wxpython2.5.3 [07:29] <\sh> i have 2.4 and 2.6 [07:29] shawarma: wxpython 2.4 is afaik not deprecated, 2.5 is for sure [07:29] 2.5 is in hoary, and creates upgrade problems to breezy with 2.6 [07:29] <\sh> Package wxpython2.6-0 version 2.6.1.1ubuntu3 has an unmet dep: Depends: libwxgtk2.6-0-python (= 2.6.1.1ubuntu3) [07:29] thats the reason why 2.5 was never in debian testing [07:29] the 2.5 pcakages can be recompiled against 2.6 with no problems... normally ;) [07:29] in general, yes [07:29] <\sh> i will ask doko_ [07:30] \sh: ok... but afaik that's just a broken dependency ;) [07:30] <\sh> slomo: shouldn't be there, if the package doesn't exist anymore [07:30] <\sh> I mean the source version and the binary version are different [07:31] <\sh> and http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/w/wxwindows2.4/2.4.4.1ubuntu1/ it should be in the archives [07:31] <\sh> since the 22-08-2005 [07:32] <\sh> actually is [07:32] <\sh> so where do i get the wxpython bla from... [07:32] \sh: again... python-wxgtk2.4 ;) [07:34] <\sh> slomo: yes...but it shouldn't be in the unmet deps list, because the version is greater then 2.4.4ubuntu6 right? [07:35] \sh: not sure... maybe 2.4.4ubuntu6 is higher than 2.4.4.1ubuntuX because letters are in general higher than numbers [07:35] <\sh> so it's a mistake [07:37] <\sh> I stop for today...grabbing some beer..to celebrate my holiday end ,-) [07:38] <\sh> brb [07:38] <_tonio> slomo: that's okay for kmplayer, I know what to do, but concerning soundkonverter ? How to provide this package for multiverse if I'm not a motu ? === _tonio opens his beer for \sh [07:39] _tonio: soundconverter? this is already in universe [07:39] <_tonio> ah ? [07:39] _tonio: and just upload it to revu ;) [07:40] <_tonio> hum..... soundkonverter, soundconverter.... are we talking about the same package ? [07:40] <_tonio> I'm talking about a kde application [07:40] _tonio: ok, and i'm talking about a gnome application :) === thesaltydog [n=fabio@host48-222.pool8255.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:40] so just upload it to revu ;) [07:40] <_tonio> okay [07:41] <_tonio> and how to test the building with pbuilder before uploading ? can I activate multivate multiverse for pbuilder ? [07:41] _tonio: sure... the same way how you activated universe [07:41] OTHERMIRROR="deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse restricted" [07:42] <_tonio> slomo: thanks ;) === Arr0gance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-147-33.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:46] <_tonio> what would you suggest for the packaging of an application that installs .so file, and doesn't need to create -dev package, because this lib isn't used by any application ? === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:47] <_tonio> riddell suggests me to build like that, but daniel disagrees because that make a lintian warning on the binary ..... [07:47] <_tonio> I don't know what to do ;) [07:47] _tonio: ask the debian policy ;) [07:48] <_tonio> but as a motu, would you validate that kind of package ? just to know what to do ;) === fred__ [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:49] _tonio: i wouldn't know ;) so probably not... would be better when to applications installs it's stuff into /usr/lib/$package ;) [07:50] <_tonio> ;) [07:50] what package is it? [07:51] <_tonio> hum let me check.... the is kinstaller, but I have to reupload it [07:51] <_tonio> and..... [07:51] <\sh> _tonio: what error message of linitian? [07:55] <_tonio> * non-dev-pkg-with-shlib-symlink usr/lib/libkatalog.so.0.0.0 usr/lib/libkatalog.so (might need splitting out - or talk to upstream how to deal with it) [07:55] <_tonio> dh asked me to see with the kubuntu guys, and riddell seems okay, that's not a problem for him [07:56] _tonio: when no other package uses this... you can try statically linking the library [07:56] <_tonio> which means ? [07:57] <\sh> ah [07:57] _tonio: patching and work ;) [07:57] <\sh> no...it should be only .so === zyga [n=zyga@93-ego-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:57] <\sh> it's application dependend...no other app is using it...so should be handled like ioslave- so's [07:58] <_tonio> \sh: I'm not sure to understand what you mean... -> english limited [07:59] <\sh> e.g libkontact.so.1.0.0 -> libkontact.so.1 only [07:59] <\sh> no .so [08:00] <\sh> if it's a plugin then u use .so only without versioning and a .la file..but for applications installing their libs...it should be libkatalog.so.1.0.0 and libkatalog.so.1 [08:02] <_tonio> k [08:04] <_tonio> so I have to patch the sources, let's go [08:04] <\sh> u should patch your autocrap stuff :) [08:05] <\sh> how old is the admin/ dir? [08:06] <_tonio> 2 days old [08:08] <\sh> it's not the same coming from kdevelop? i mean the admin dir is generated by kdevelop from templates....and those ones are old [08:08] <\sh> normally [08:09] <\sh> hmmm....there is no new version from katalog? [08:09] <\sh> s/from/of/ [08:09] <_tonio> yep, I'll take the tarball again I think ;) [08:11] <\sh> _tonio: is katalog in kde svn? extragear or something like this? === mbreit [n=mo@p54875794.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:13] <\sh> if somebody wants to have fun...aqsis ;) http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11387 [08:13] <_tonio> I don't think so... concerning the date of admin folder, this is due to the my removing of cvs folder in the tarball [08:14] <\sh> _tonio: take an admin dir from kde-3.4.2 svn...and update it [08:14] <\sh> (as patch please ;)) [08:14] <\sh> and recheck, if it's generating the correct libs and not those wrong ones === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax6-102.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@cpe-69-205-46-35.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sjmorgan [i=simon@bollo.16hz.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487C5F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:18] <_tonio> \sh I'm trying this, thanks ;) [08:18] is it possible for somebody to build the latest quodlibet package from debian? === MasterC [n=ganxta@dsl-082-082-116-065.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:19] sjmorgan: why? what is new? === MasterC [n=ganxta@dsl-082-082-116-065.arcor-ip.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [08:19] http://www.sacredchao.net/quodlibet/milestone?id=EF%2FQL+0.13.1 [08:20] 0.11 is in ubuntu and since then there's been 0.12, 0.13 and 0.13.1 [08:20] are there any critical bugfixes or just new features? [08:21] i dunno [08:22] does there need to be critical bug fixes for a package to be built? [08:24] or something which is really needed... currently at least... after breezy release all packages which are newer in debian will be synced automatically but for breezy we're in upstream version freeze [08:24] oh, ok [08:25] what are the reason why you want to have the new version? :) [08:27] gstreamer backend + new id3 library [08:27] i could build a package myself but it would be nice if it was in universe [08:27] like i say 0.11 is a few versions old [08:27] it's changed quite a bit since then [08:28] then it's maybe better to wait for dapper... when so many things have changed there is a great risk of many new bugs or regressions [08:29] fair enough === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:36] <\sh> lol...funny funny..our voting here [08:37] \sh: yes... but i doubt something good can come from this ;) [08:38] <\sh> I'm watching the livestream from ard...the round table of big elephants [08:39] <_tonio> \sh: same error using a recent admin folder..... [08:39] <_tonio> I don't know where is created the link..... an idea ? I'm searching in the sources but.... i'm not a developper ;) [08:40] <\sh> _tonio: u made a make -f admin/Makefile.common ? [08:40] <\sh> or make -f Makefile.cvs [08:40] <_tonio> ah no ;) just replaced the admin folder, and supposed it was enough ;) === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:40] <\sh> no u have to regenerate...so make -f admin/Makefile.common [08:40] <_tonio> okay with a patch also [08:48] the results make me very sad :( [08:49] <_tonio> \sh: tried but now during pbuilder I have this : [08:49] <\sh> siretart: don't worry...watch ard...and u have a lot of fun...I think schroeder is drunk ,-) [08:49] <_tonio> WARNING: use unsermake instead of make or use a wrapper script, e.g. makeobj!!! [08:49] <_tonio> unsermake install [08:49] <_tonio> Wrong parameters. [08:50] <\sh> yes [08:50] siretart: nothing unexpected imho... but nonetheless sad... the next years probably will be chaotic political ;) [08:50] <\sh> now u should patch the rest [08:50] \sh: "galgenhumor"? ;) [08:50] <\sh> _tonio: the source of katalog is old..very old [08:50] \sh: I'm watching it all the time. I think he is on crack.. [08:51] <\sh> slomo / siretart: read my comment on a blog of a friend: http://sushee.geekheim.de/?p=364#comments [08:51] <\sh> what I'm thinking about a bug coalition sorry, big i mean [08:52] <_tonio> \sh: so what to do ? Forgetting the package ? ;) [08:52] <\sh> _tonio: patch it :) [08:52] <\sh> make it running :) === sh_warma [n=sh@3E6B503C.rev.stofanet.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:53] slomo: \sh: did you notice revu-build? [08:54] <_tonio> \sh: well appart from the link to .so it works !! Isn't there a param to use during compilation to avoid the creation of that link ? [08:54] <_tonio> and according to certain personns this error can be ignored, for example riddell [08:54] <\sh> siretart: where is it ? [08:54] \sh: http://revu.tauware.de/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/Revu1Building [08:55] \sh: slomo: please place a .forward on tiber in your homes. [08:57] I should have written revu-build a lot earlier, I think.. === bddebian [n=bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:57] Heya gang [08:57] huhu bddebian [08:57] siretart: hm, what is .forward for? forwarding our mails to some other address? what's the syntax for that file? just a email address? [08:57] hi bddebian :) [08:57] Heya siretart, slomo [08:59] slomo: just do a `echo yourmail@example.com > ~/.forward` on tiber [08:59] slomo: you may also configure procmail, if you prefer ;) [09:00] <\sh> _tonio: siretart done [09:00] siretart: not necessary... i already run procmail on my router ;) [09:00] Heya \sh [09:00] siretart: done :) [09:01] <_tonio> ah ;) [09:02] _tonio: Did you ever have any luck with the qmake stuff? [09:02] <_tonio> bddebian: not at the moment ;) [09:02] :-( === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0853.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:04] hello [09:04] \sh: gajim is trying to sign my 'away' messages. is there any way to get rid of that behavior? [09:04] Heya ivoks [09:04] <\sh> siretart: it's correct behaviour regarding the JEP :) [09:05] I don't want to be annoyed every 10 min being asked about my passphrase [09:05] \sh: acording to JEP? main upstream? [09:05] <\sh> siretart: xmpp spec [09:05] grmpf [09:05] I disagree [09:05] gajim rulz [09:06] <\sh> siretart: lets wait for OTR support in gajim ;) [09:06] hi ivoks [09:06] OTR? [09:06] hi siretart [09:06] hi bddebian [09:06] hi \sh [09:06] <\sh> Off The Record Encryption [09:06] anyone else? :) [09:06] <\sh> hey ivoks [09:09] ok. I eagerly await sip on xmpp ;) [09:10] <\sh> well... [09:10] <\sh> Another beer? [09:10] <\sh> yes [09:11] \sh: good idea :) === ivoks loves my crypted usb stick === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-12-143.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:17] <\sh> siretart: www-data 25999 26914 0 14:35 ? 00:00:00 [revu-key] [09:17] fuck [09:17] need to leave, cu. [09:17] sorry [09:17] bye [09:18] Later siretart [09:19] hm === shackan [n=shackan@host227-97.pool8259.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hunger [n=hunger@p54A61DF3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:20] we have one zombie app in repo :) [09:20] qdvdauthor [09:20] it contains pixmap and .desktop file [09:20] but no app :) [09:21] ivoks: very useful :) maybe it failed compiling and the makefile is broken? [09:21] slomo: checking as we speek [09:28] your nautilus-python seems buggy, the latest cvs works fine, is there any chance to update it ? [09:31] "yes it's possible" or "no, go sit in a corner and wait for depper" ? [09:31] b) [09:31] :)) [09:31] :\ [09:31] how buggy? [09:32] and you are reffering to whom? [09:32] uhm, can crash nautilus [09:32] W: Unable to locate package nautilus-python [09:32] to anyone who can respond..., I don't know how things work here [09:33] ops, python-nautilus [09:33] ( in the CVS it's called nautilus-python, that's why, sorry ) [09:33] so, how can i reproduce crash? [09:34] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=316595 [09:38] happens with every python extension I tried [09:38] <\sh> what? [09:40] \sh, install a gnome-vfs module written in python, then, install a nautilus extension written in python, then, run the aforementioned gnome-vfs module, then nautilus cries and dies [09:42] If a package Depends: foo (= 1.0.34) but we have foo 1.0.34-0build1, how shoudl I change the Depends? >= 1.0.34 or >=1.0.34 (<< 1.0.35)??? [09:44] bddebian: $package (>= 1.0.34), $package (<< 1.0.35) [09:44] bddebian: but is this really needed there? [09:45] <\sh> bddebian: then say better $package (= 1.0.34) [09:47] ?? [09:47] <\sh> >= 1.0.34 << 1.0.35 == = 1.0.34 [09:47] 1.0.34 [09:48] 1.0.34-0asdasd1 = 1.0.34 [09:48] -0asdasd1 is revision, not version [09:49] anyway, i can reporoduce this python thing [09:49] Oh, it doesn't have a revision, sorry it's just 1.0.34build2 [09:49] i can't :) [09:49] <\sh> well...if we have 1.0.34-0ubuntu1 and then he should tighten it...if we have 1.0.34-1 then we have to >=1.0.34 << 1.0.35 [09:49] <\sh> bddebian: what? native package? [09:50] \sh: Dunno it's survex === spacey [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:50] <\sh> not 1.0.34-1build2? [09:50] ivoks, works fine on you ? [09:50] \sh: Nope [09:50] shackan: i can't get pyvfs roking at all [09:50] why? [09:51] sec.. [09:51] \sh: The first build1 they did, they just did 1.0.34build1 [09:52] export PYTHONPATH=$(pwd):$PYTHONPATH; mkdir /tmp/pyfs; export TMPDIR=/tmp/pyfs; nautilus --no-desktop pyfs:/// [09:52] what's pyfs? [09:52] bddebian: take a look at the output from: dpkg --compare-versions 1.0.34 eq 1.0.34build2 && echo "yes" [09:52] Mithrandir, just a demo module [09:53] "pyfs:///" is not a valid location [09:53] crimsun: Then I don't understand why survex-aven has an unmet dep [09:54] ivoks, even doing the above ^^^ (sorry for abusing your patience) [09:54] shackan: yup [09:54] shackan: is this hoary or breeyz? [09:54] breezy [09:54] lots of typos today :/ [09:54] fresh breezy [09:55] libgnomevfs-WARNING **: module '/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libpythonmethod.so' returned a NULL handle [09:55] I assume you copied pyfs.conf in the appropriate directory and killall nautilus before doing it [09:55] yup [09:56] bddebian: hmm? The output from dpkg --compare-versions explains why. [09:56] sigh.. [09:56] bddebian: the Dep in debian/control needs to be updated [09:56] shackan: so, your pyfs.conf is where? [09:56] shackan: i don't have .gnome2/vfs/modules [09:56] crimsun: That's what I asked originally. BTW, I don't get anything from --compare-versions [09:56] bddebian: dpkg --compare-versions tells you that 1.0.34 != 1.0.34build2 [09:58] OK, so Dep: survex (>= 1.0.34), survex (<< 1.0.35) ? [09:58] ivoks, /etc/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/pyfs.conf [09:59] bddebian: that's tolerable, or use substvars to generate the version at compile-time [09:59] bddebian: tfheen@thosu:~$ dpkg --compare-versions 1.0.34 = 1.0.34build2 && echo true || echo not true [10:00] not true [10:00] look at the return value [10:00] yeah, it'll return 1 [10:00] shackan: same thing again... [10:01] killall -9 nautilus; export PYTHONPATH=$(pwd):$PYTHONPATH; mkdir /tmp/pyfs; export TMPDIR=/tmp/pyfs; nautilus --no-desktop pyfs:/// [10:02] this, from the folder where pyfs.py is, right ? [10:03] lol [10:03] it's gziped :) [10:03] so, now what? it opend. [10:04] shackan: it works [10:04] ok [10:04] ok, no crash after installing any of /usr/share/doc/python-nautilus/examples/ [10:04] didn't try [10:04] that's what triggers the bug [10:05] is seems gnome-vfs and python extensions, both written in python, don't mix together [10:05] ops, s/python/nautilus/1 === jtan325 [n=jtan325@c-24-19-241-133.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:09] gpg encryption with gajim doesn't work at allll [10:09] :S [10:09] it is kind of buggy :) [10:10] just doesn't work :o [10:10] broadcasting of keys doesn't work [10:10] <_tonio> \sh: I'm searching for a way to correct the non-dev-pkg-with-shlib-symlink error [10:10] and if i assign it manually we can't decrypt each others messages [10:10] spacey: ivoks@grad.hr [10:10] <_tonio> and it apears that there is a folder /usr/share/lintian/overrides than tells lintian to ignore certain errors [10:11] <_tonio> there is no know way to avoid that error according to what I can read.... [10:11] <_tonio> riddell's katapult package has the same error for example, but has been added, so I must say I am confused on that point... === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@adsl229-164.unizar.es] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:24] <\sh> _tonio: then go the lintian override way [10:24] ivoks [10:24] yes? [10:25] thanks for just trying :) [10:25] np [10:25] well, it doesn't crash === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-41-168.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:25] even with < any nautilus-python ext here > installed ? [10:26] i installed that pyconf [10:26] or what was it;s name [10:26] and it worked [10:26] yes, it's supposed to work [10:27] the problem is not there, the problem is python-nautilus [10:28] <_tonio> \sh: this is what I am doing, just reproducing what riddell has already done in other packages ;) [10:28] ok, what do i have to do to reproduce the bug? [10:29] shackan: it's late over here and i'm loosing concentration [10:29] sudo cp /usr/share/doc/python-nautilus/examples/*.py /usr/lib/nautilus/extensions-1.0/python/ [10:29] sorry [10:29] so, don't be mad if i'm... slow :) [10:29] no no [10:29] I'm not [10:29] ok, did that [10:30] now do the pyfs:/// trick of before [10:30] (sigh, I should have written a shell script to do all of that, sorry) [10:33] eh... [10:33] restart app [10:33] uh? [10:33] what happens? [10:34] >>pyfs.__init__<< pyfs None [10:34] and it dies [10:34] YES!!!!! [10:34] that's it! [10:34] but... [10:34] you see, it worked before! [10:34] you can do this in many ways [10:35] do what? [10:35] sec [10:35] ok [10:37] yeah, ok, it's a bug [10:37] thanks :D [10:38] ok, now the workaround is to take python-nautilus from cvs, should I bugzilla this ? [10:38] no, malone [10:38] launchpad.net/malone [10:39] shackan: do you know a patch for this bug? [10:39] since i doubt we will take CVS... [10:39] ouch, well, I could try diff'ing from CVS, if I knew what version you're using [10:40] apt-cache show python-nautilus | grep Version [10:40] shackan: sec... [10:41] ok, nothing.. [10:42] report it and we will see what to do with it [10:43] ok, sorry I don't know how to see what is the cvs revision your version comes from [10:43] oh... [10:44] my, my, my... [10:44] works with deiban's version [10:44] but... [10:44] debian's is for 2.3 python [10:45] debian uses 2.3 ?? it's damn old... [10:45] shackan: our version is 0.3.0 release [10:45] ah, just report it.. [10:45] morning [10:45] we will take care of it [10:45] ajmitch: morning [10:45] ajmitch: you can take over now :) [10:45] no I can't [10:46] I'm leaving for work in 2 minutes [10:46] ah, monday :) [10:46] bddebian should be around :) [10:46] yeah === ajmitch can be a non-motu like usual [10:47] ah, /me dreams bed [10:47] see you [10:47] bye === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:49] ??\ === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:05] <_tonio> \sh: it works, no more lintian error in the override way ;) === xerxas_ [n=xerxas@179.107.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:10] <\sh> _tonio: upload ;) [11:12] <_tonio> done for klibido [11:12] <_tonio> I'm correcting kdetv and kftpgrabber the same way ;) [11:14] <_tonio> \sh: done for katalog sorry ;) -> actually working on klibido and done the confusion ;) [11:20] <\sh> _tonio: k === \sh is smoking the last cigarette...before going to bed... === _tonio somkes to much too... [11:30] <\sh> ok...g'night guys...tomorrow more [11:32] <_tonio> problem with pbuilder.... [11:33] <_tonio> OTHERMIRROR="deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse restricted" -> added to pbuilderrc but it doesn't consider multiverse......... [11:35] pbuilder update [11:38] <_tonio> doesn't work ;) it doesn't update multiverse [11:38] right, you may need to update the sources.list inside the chroot [11:38] which you can do with pbuilder login --save-after-login [11:38] which gets you into the chroot to edit [11:40] <_tonio> ajmitch: isn't editing /etc/pbuilder/apt.config/sources.list enough ? [11:41] don't think so [11:41] depends on how you have it setup, iirc [11:41] <_tonio> k [11:43] <_tonio> sudo pbuilder update --override-config ;) [11:43] <_tonio> just need to override config after modifing sources.list === jorgp3 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-161.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu