[12:00] <erUSUL> elvirolo: run a sound server like esd or polypaudio
[12:00] <nictuku> nitinshantharam as I said before.
[12:00] <nitinshantharam> nictuku: that doestn exist either
[12:00] <elvirolo> crimsun: well, "multiple sounds" don't work ... they block /dev/dsp
[12:00] <crimsun> elvirolo: /dev/dsp is OSS emulation, which does not work with dmix
[12:00] <el_besugo> does anyone know which will be the official sound server for breezy?
[12:00] <crimsun> elvirolo: it has been esd
[12:00] <crimsun> elvirolo: sorry
[12:00] <crimsun> el_besugo: it has been esd
[12:01] <samu2> this esd thing is annoying me
[12:01] <crimsun> el_besugo: in breezy we use ALSA dmixed by default with esd as a backup
[12:01] <el_besugo> so, polypaudio for the next one?
[12:01] <samu2> i have to kill its process to use VLC and then fire it up again to use rhythm box
[12:01] <opo> I'd kinda like to fix this error "Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL which is required for WordPress." any have any ideas?
[12:01] <erUSUL> ai-2: the script comes with intruccions in the source... read them
[12:01] <crimsun> el_besugo: no, polypaudio has a less than active upstream
[12:01] <el_besugo> ok
[12:01] <el_besugo> that suits me
[12:02] <el_besugo> I'm already using esd
[12:02] <lonewolff> opo: do you have mysql installed? and the php4-mysql package?
[12:02] <crimsun> el_besugo: by moving to dmixed ALSA by default for the first sound card, we've eliminated the majority of the blockers for "multiple sounds"
[12:02] <erUSUL> elvirolo: i use polypaudio works great
[12:02] <shekhar_> hello can someone help me
[12:02] <andelgado> seems that gnomemeeting is similar to microsoft netmeeting for H.323 videoconference.
[12:02] <jims_> crimsun: How do I know what video driver/output to configure for mplayer?
[12:02] <ai-2> erUSUL: i have runed the script and iam able to see the disc, but iam not able to view it graphicallyu
[12:02] <elvirolo> erUSUL: ok, i'll have a look :)
[12:02] <shekhar_> i just installed ubuntu on my thinkpad and now windows won't start in grub
[12:02] <opo> It appears to be installed
[12:02] <andelgado> i doesn't allow access to chat rooms.
[12:03] <andelgado> expect ideas please.
[12:03] <el_besugo> shekhar_: what windows do u have?
[12:03] <erUSUL> crimsun: so in breezy the defaoult will be no sound daemon an dmix enabled?
[12:04] <SnakeBite> does someone know how to find some irc.freenode.net admins
[12:04] <andelgado> i don't think gnomemeeting is compatible with yahoo chat,
[12:04] <el_besugo> it's not
[12:04] <haasteem> i am trying to get the jack server to run through qjackctl, but i get this message: ALSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[12:04] <opo> lonewolff : it appears to be installed
[12:04] <ai-2> erUSUL: it says i dont have permission to view the content
[12:04] <el_besugo> andelgado: it's not the same protocol
[12:04] <crimsun> erUSUL: no, the default is dmixed ALSA with esd as a backup
[12:04] <jims_> Anyone know any forum links to troubleshoot mplayer?
[12:04] <crimsun> jims_: I don't understand your question
[12:05] <test34> How can I edit the System menu (after updating breezy it added a second Screensaver link in Preferences)
[12:05] <lonewolff> opo: you may have to edit /etc/php4/apacheversion/php.ini to include mysql.so
[12:05] <andelgado> ya, so it doesnt solve my need. i wanna voicechat in yahoo chatrooms.
[12:05] <haasteem> and when i try to run qsynth it says this: qsynth1: Failed to create the MIDI driver (alsa_seq); no MIDI input will be available.
[12:05] <jims_> Whe nI try to open a video file, I get an error message that sasy in cannot open the video_out.
[12:05] <haasteem> what could be that i'm missing?
[12:05] <as> #amd64
[12:05] <jims_> crimsun: Whe nI try to open a video file, I get an error message that sasy in cannot open the video_out.
[12:05] <Blissex> SnakeBite: in #Freenode of course
[12:05] <andelgado> seems like i've got to be back with windows OS.
[12:06] <el_besugo> andelgado: did u try the linux version of yahoo messenger?
[12:06] <nictuku> nitinshantharam was your postfix installed from ubuntu's deb package?
[12:06] <crimsun> jims_: did you pass ''-vo xv''?
[12:06] <opo> lonewolff : mind detailing that in a pm?
[12:06] <SnakeBite> Blissex: it is chit-chat channel :(
[12:06] <andelgado> yap, no support for videochat
[12:06] <elvirolo> anyone using gtk-qt engine please?
[12:06] <jims_> crimsun: I haven't changed the mplayer.conf file...
[12:06] <el_besugo> andelgado: bad luck
[12:06] <andelgado> i mean, no option to see webcam of chatmates
[12:06] <lonewolff> opo: see pm
[12:06] <erUSUL> ai-2: umount them and mount again as normal user
[12:06] <Blissex> SnakeBite: and there are admins in there. Also look at the Freenode FAQ...
[12:07] <SnakeBite> Blissex: 10x
[12:07] <jims_> crimsun: do I need to alter/add entries?
[12:07] <erUSUL> haasteem: a midi capable sound car
[12:07] <andelgado> is there anyone here, use yahoo messenger before and yahoo chat?
[12:07] <GatoLoko> anyone have freepascal working in breezy?
[12:08] <crimsun> jims_: at least try ''mplayer -vo xv foo'' first
[12:08] <andelgado> does linux users are stuck to "keyboard" chat?
[12:08] <annex> I moved from Xfree86 to Xorg and I have noticed a performance decrease and Xorg takes about 20-30% more CPU than before for drawing things.  I have a xinerama setup with a modern Nvidia card and an old ATI card.  I've noticed the performance issue seems to be created by using the ATI card for my second monitor since if I run only on the Nvidia card the problem goes away.  I'm using the binary nvidia driver and the free ati driver.  Using the ves
[12:08] <elvirolo> please, has anyone had that menu prob in kubuntu ?
[12:08] <haasteem> erusul: right... let me look into that :-)
[12:08] <crimsun> andelgado: as opposed to say x-chat, konversation, chatzilla, or gaim?
[12:08] <elvirolo> i apm absolutely desperate ... i've been having that problem for weeks
[12:09] <crimsun> "that menu problem" is extremely vague
[12:09] <erUSUL> annex: if xorg does not work for you keep xfree86
[12:09] <shekhar_> el_besugo, windows xp was preinstalled on this thinkpad
[12:09] <elvirolo> and the release date is getting closer, but the menu still doesn't behave properly
[12:09] <andelgado> crimsun: all u've mentioned doesnt allow chat with webcam support. right?
[12:09] <crimsun> andelgado: correct
[12:09] <elvirolo> simple : new program entries don't appear when i install new software
[12:09] <shekhar_> el_besugo, i partitioned the free space, installed ubuntu and grub, and now cannot boot xp from grub
[12:09] <shekhar_> el_besugo, it goes into rescue recovery mode when i select xp in grub
[12:10] <andelgado> chatting in linux will stick on typing in the keyboard then.
[12:10] <jims_> crimsun: From the command line? Or in gnome?
[12:10] <elvirolo> dozens of menu entries are missing
[12:10] <andelgado> so, doesn't any linux users bothered about it? it's not as flexible as in windows based.
[12:10] <el_besugo> not really, andelgado
[12:10] <crimsun> jims_: from the command line
[12:11] <el_besugo> unless u want to chat with yahoo protocols
[12:11] <crimsun> elvirolo: are menu and menu-xdg installed?
[12:11] <andelgado> i want to shift to linux, but this prob will hinder me to do so.
[12:11] <el_besugo> btw, non-free
[12:11] <ai-2> erUSUL: not able to mount as normal user only as root, then where to mount /mnt/windows or /media/24GB Disk (hdal)
[12:11] <annex> erUSUL: well, yeah I agree if it works then use it... but I'm kind of curios why with xinerama I get poorer performance than with a single card without changing Xorg.  Also the fact that the vesa driver helps somewhat makes me think it's a driver issue not Xorg/Xfree
[12:11] <el_besugo> what's the problem?
[12:11] <el_besugo> chat with keyboard
[12:11] <el_besugo> and when ur interested in someone use gnomeeting
[12:12] <andelgado> won't see faces of chat mates, as in yahoo chat with yahoo messenger in windows.
[12:12] <el_besugo> nonsense
[12:12] <el_besugo> use kopete
[12:12] <jims_> crimsun: I just get a 'help' listing scrolling by...
[12:12] <erUSUL> andelgado: yahoo does not provide specs for they propietary protocols nor does ms is hard to get support.
[12:12] <elvirolo> crimsun: yes they are installed
[12:12] <el_besugo> u won't see the cam but u will see their avatars
[12:13] <gerarcone> hi to all, does anybody have problem with the Synchronize clock function in Breezy?
[12:14] <jims_> crimsun: AHA! a typo...  When I tried again, I got the message, "Could not find free Xvideo port"
[12:15] <Foodcoman> Whooo Hooo, the someone fixed the the issue of domain name not being saved int System/Settings/network/networks settings.  Good news.
[12:16] <andelgado> thanks for the help guys. got to decide if i would shift OS to linux, or remain using microsoft windows.
[12:17] <nalioth> andelgado: not much of a choice, imho
[12:17] <gerarcone> nobody?
[12:17] <andelgado> unless, yahoo would release new version of yahoo messenger for linux that allows webcam chatting
[12:17] <hondje> wow
[12:17] <nalioth> gerarcone: "nobody?" is not a productive question
[12:17] <hondje> someone cares enough about that to actually chose their OS for it?
[12:17] <Seveas> nalioth, read back a bit :)
[12:17] <el_besugo> andelgado: if u choose an OS only for being able to chat...
[12:17] <erUSUL> gerarcone: i do not use breezy
[12:18] <test34> If I want some programs to stop loading at bootup like LVM, I just delete the symlink in /etc/rcS.d ?
[12:18] <jims_> crimsun:  Any ideas on how to 'free up" an Xvideo port?
[12:18] <erUSUL> :(
[12:18] <Seveas> test34, yes
[12:18] <test34> thanks Seveas
[12:18] <erUSUL> test34: use update-rc <whatever> remove
[12:18] <Seveas> erUSUL, you should, breezy is nice :)
[12:19] <Seveas> sudo update-rc.d -f <whatever> remove
[12:19] <lsuactiafner> chmod -x erUSUL
[12:19] <MrFaber> I have checked the systemmonitor and realizes that two process of evolution runs which I don't use. How can I disable this autostart apps?
[12:19] <Seveas> *g*
[12:19] <Seveas> chmod -w lsuactiafner
[12:19] <gerarcone> nalioth: sorry but the question was above
[12:19] <Seveas> :p
[12:19] <mkyb14> Has anyone ever setup the "remote desktop" on ubuntu and actually got it working?????
[12:19] <erUSUL> Seveas: yea that seems more correct :)
[12:19] <nalioth> Seveas: just makin a point that "anybody?" and such as that are not productive questions
[12:19] <gerarcone> nalioth: hi to all, does anybody have problem with the Synchronize clock function in Breezy?
[12:19] <test34> erUSUL, I dont have update-rc
[12:20] <MrFaber> gerarcone, on start yes
[12:20] <andelgado> people, is this a healthy room? wouldnt you be bothered answering stupid questions of a novice? Coz i'll gonna be here always, as novice to linux, of course.
[12:20] <pirast> Hi, does anybody know a good sftp client?
[12:20] <lsuactiafner> see... he doesnt have update-rc muhahah lolol
[12:20] <Seveas> andelgado, yes this room is healthy :)
[12:20] <lsuactiafner> (:
[12:20] <solidgroove> dma refuse to turn on for cdrom how can I fix that?
[12:20] <nalioth> pirast: gftp
[12:20] <andelgado> thanks
[12:20] <hondje> solidgroove: define 'refuse'
[12:20] <MrFaber> solidgroove, do you use hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc or whatever
[12:20] <gerarcone> MrFaber: ok, thanks
[12:20] <erUSUL> test34: is update-rc.d as correctly pointed out by Seveas
[12:20] <solidgroove> hdparm -d1 /dev/hda
[12:20] <pirast> nalioth: I tried it but it doesn't connect to my server (tls only)
[12:21] <_n00blar_> how do I go about adding a new path to my $PATH variable?
[12:21] <solidgroove> i get failed
[12:21] <hondje> solidgroove: your cdrom is your primary master?
[12:21] <test34> erUSUL, ok
[12:21] <solidgroove> yes
[12:21] <Seveas> _n00blar_, export PATH=/new/path/here:$PATH
[12:21] <hondje> o_O
[12:21] <gerarcone> how i can remove some kernel versions (that i don't use) from GRUB?
[12:21] <solidgroove> i have sda for hdd
[12:21] <MrFaber> solidgroove, and you mount it with /dev/hda?
[12:21] <SuperTails92> geracone: Uninstall their packages.
[12:21] <_n00blar_> Seveas, yes, but I want it to be saved after reboots
[12:21] <solidgroove> does it have to be unmounted to enable dma?
[12:21] <MrFaber> no
[12:21] <MrFaber> just a question
[12:21] <Seveas> _n00blar_, put it in your ~/.gnomerc
[12:22] <nalioth> pirast: did you select the ssh option on gftp?
[12:22] <MrFaber> Is it jumpered correctly?
[12:22] <erUSUL> gerarcone: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:22] <solidgroove> yes
[12:22] <_n00blar_> Seveas, ahh, ok thanks
[12:22] <MrFaber> solidgroove, What is the error?
[12:22] <gerarcone> erUSUL: but in this way i don't delete them
[12:23] <pirast> nalioth: No, I didn't because it's a FTP server with TLS support.. When I select SSH2 it doesn't work :-/
[12:23] <gerarcone> SuperTails92: how i can do this?
[12:23] <solidgroove> HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[12:23] <nalioth> pirast: i know of no ftp client that uses tls
[12:23] <MrFaber> LOL
[12:23] <MrFaber> just call sudo hdparm ...
[12:23] <moparfan90> hello. i installed eric3 and when i run it i get a error. are there any sependaces for eric3?
[12:23] <SuperTails92> geracone: Use your favorite apt UI (read: Synaptic)
[12:23] <solidgroove> it was sudo
[12:23] <MrFaber> you have to be root
[12:23] <MrFaber> or use sudo
[12:23] <erUSUL> gerarcone: you edit the file find the entries you want to delete and delete them
[12:23] <pirast> nalioth: OK, thanks...
[12:23] <_n00blar_> Seveas, how do I add it system wide?
[12:23] <jims_> crimsun: If mplayer cannot find a free Xvideo port, do I have to cofig/specify it?
[12:24] <jdbolt> hi, can anyone tell me how to mount a hard drive which i use to store all my music on? Its ext3 and i need it to auto mount on boot and to be readable and writable by me, thanks
[12:24] <mkyb14> Has anyone ever setup the "remote desktop" on ubuntu and actually got it working?????
[12:24] <moparfan90> hello. i installed eric3 and when i run it i get a error. are there any sependaces for eric3?
[12:24] <moparfan90> help me
[12:24] <MrFaber> solidgroove, you used sudo?
[12:24] <lsuactiafner> jims_ : #mplayer
[12:24] <gerarcone> SuperTails92: uhm... i'm looking with synaptic but i can't find them
[12:24] <jdbolt> it is at /dev/sdb1
[12:24] <Seveas> _n00blar_, /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and /etc/profile and /etc/bash.bashrc
[12:24] <lsuactiafner> jims_ : i dont think you need a free port, it moves on the next open one?
[12:24] <gerarcone> SuperTails92: i don't know what are their names
[12:24] <solidgroove> MrFaber, yes but I recompiled with 2.6.13 could that be it?
[12:24] <_n00blar_> Seveas, so add the path to all those files?
[12:24] <erUSUL> jims_: maybe you does not have Xv enabled in xorg
[12:24] <Seveas> moparfan90, what's the error?
[12:24] <moparfan90> bob2, are you there?
[12:24] <MrFaber> normally root should have any rights
[12:24] <gerarcone> erUSUL: yes, but i only delete them to show in GRUB
[12:25] <Seveas> _n00blar_, these 3 all (re)define the path depending on the shell
[12:25] <moparfan90> moparfan90@ubuntu:~$ eric3
[12:25] <moparfan90> Traceback (most recent call last):
[12:25] <moparfan90>   File "/usr/lib/site-python/eric3/eric3.py", line 147, in ?
[12:25] <moparfan90>     main()
[12:25] <moparfan90>   File "/usr/lib/site-python/eric3/eric3.py", line 132, in main
[12:25] <moparfan90>     mw = UserInterface(loc, splash)
[12:25] <SuperTails92> geracone: linux-image-{obsolete_version}
[12:25] <moparfan90>   File "/usr/lib/site-python/eric3/UI/UserInterface.py", line 265, in __init__
[12:25] <moparfan90>     self.sbv = SBVviewer(dbs, self.sbvDock, 1)
[12:25] <moparfan90>   File "/usr/lib/site-python/eric3/UI/SBVviewer.py", line 75, in __init__
[12:25] <gerarcone> SuperTails92: thanks
[12:25] <Seveas> moparfan90, you idiot....
[12:25] <MrFaber> solidgroove, and what happens if you run "sudo su -"
[12:25] <MrFaber> and than "hdparm -d1 /dev/hda"
[12:25] <pirast> moparfan90: use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ next time please
[12:25] <SuperTails92> moparfan90: Please read the topic.
[12:25] <MrFaber> otherwise I would check it with the older kernel
[12:26] <gerarcone> SuperTails92: in this way i'm deleting them also from the GRUB menu, right?
[12:26] <solidgroove> same error
[12:26] <erUSUL> gerarcone: if you are using prepackaged kernels unisntall them via apt/Synaptic and you are done if it's a custom made kernel you have tu delete files by hand
[12:26] <MrFaber> Has anyone an idea how to disable evolution autostart?
[12:26] <MrFaber> without removing it :)
[12:26] <mkyb14> anyone?
[12:27] <gerarcone> erUSUL: thank you. fortunately i'm a very bad linux user so they are prepackaged ;)
[12:27] <pirast> MrFaber: Close Evolution -> System -> Logout -> Select "Save session"
[12:27] <pirast> And try :-)
[12:28] <MrFaber> pirast, thanks, no other way?
[12:28] <MrFaber> Without save session
[12:28] <MrFaber> otherwise I always have to use save session or am I wrong?
[12:28] <MrFaber> solidgroove, still there?
[12:28] <pirast> MrFaber: No, one time.. That's enough..
[12:28] <MrFaber> solidgroove, one last chance
[12:28] <erUSUL> MrFaber: once saved you are done
[12:29] <moparfan900> hello
[12:29] <MrFaber> ok, thanks
[12:29] <nalioth> moparfan900: you are asking for trouble
[12:29] <moparfan900> sorry about that
[12:29] <TokenBad> in ubuntu whats command for force quit?
[12:29] <moparfan900> seveas, i am very sorry i thought that was 1 line a pasted it very fase sry
[12:30] <solidgroove> MrFaber, yes
[12:30] <solidgroove> logged in as root I cant set dma, maybe i did something to kernel config
[12:30] <pirast> TokenBad: Do you mean to shutdown your PC?
[12:30] <TokenBad> no..force quit a program
[12:30] <MrFaber> solidgroove,
[12:30] <MrFaber> do you know that you can switch back from text console to x with alt + f7
[12:30] <erUSUL> TokenBad: an aplication or the system
[12:30] <solidgroove> yes
[12:30] <pirast> TokenBad: killall COMMAND
[12:30] <MrFaber> ok, than switch to terminal one with ctrl+alt+f1
[12:30] <TokenBad> application
[12:31] <MrFaber> and login as root
[12:31] <MrFaber> and test it
[12:31] <erUSUL> TokenBad: kill -9 <Pid>
[12:31] <solidgroove> i did
[12:31] <MrFaber> maybe sudo is block in any kind, no clue
[12:31] <TokenBad> there was a command could type on and then click on the one causing the problem
[12:31] <andelgado> hi people
[12:31] <MrFaber> solidgroove, and it doesn't work I guess
[12:31] <MrFaber> solidgroove, than use your old kernel :)
[12:31] <MrFaber> solidgroove, maybe you haven't compiled dma support in kernel
[12:32] <solidgroove> now I have to get ncurses to use menuconfig, this config file is from my slackware install
[12:32] <andelgado> what did i miss, i dont hear sound in using firefox, even when i click links that plays music?
[12:32] <jims_> erUSUL: How would I enable?
[12:32] <andelgado> expect advice pls... what did i miss, i dont hear sound in using firefox, even when i click links that plays music?
[12:32] <erUSUL> TokenBad: you can add a "killer" to the gnome-panel right-click and choose add to...
[12:33] <TokenBad> not using gnome
[12:33] <lsuactiafner> solidgroove : am also a slackware user..
[12:33] <TokenBad> using kde
[12:33] <lsuactiafner> solidgroove : run a hyrbid ubuntu/slackware system
[12:33] <erUSUL> jims_: it depends on the video driver you are using (nv for nvidia has it and radeon for ati etc)
[12:34] <lsuactiafner> jims_ : not nv, nvidia if you install the official nvidia drivers
[12:34] <erUSUL> TokenBad: run xkill
[12:34] <solidgroove> if you remove the agpgart and use nvidia one i get better fps
[12:34] <TokenBad> thats the command
[12:35] <TokenBad> heheh
[12:36] <lundner> hey hey
[12:36] <Hoxzer> any ideas how to get mp4's work in ubuntu?
[12:36] <jims_> erUSUL: Not sure what chips are in my Compaq laptop, I just let the INSTALL CD do the work...  and apt-get for getting mplayer-mozilla...
[12:37] <andelgado> what did i miss, i dont hear sound in using firefox, even when i click links that plays music?
[12:38] <erUSUL> jims_: and my cristall ball is not working today either... bad luck XD
[12:38] <[Chameleon] > andelgado: what kind of music? MIDI?
[12:38] <andelgado> but music player works properly, i listen to radils
[12:38] <jims_> erUSUL: Will uname -r tell me that?
[12:38] <andelgado> whatever music the webpage includes. MIDI too
[12:38] <erUSUL> jims_: run 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.org | grep Driver' it should give you a clue
[12:39] <erUSUL> jims_: no
[12:39] <[Chameleon] > andelgado: MIDI music on webpages in Linux is difficult to get working.
[12:40] <andelgado> oh no. so, i can't listen to such format then.
[12:40] <jims_> erUSUL:  No such file or directory...
[12:40] <jims_> erUSUL:  wrong name or path?
[12:41] <erUSUL> andelgado: you probably can but not directly from the web. download the files and then listen to them
[12:41] <andelgado> listen using music player?
[12:41] <[Chameleon] > andelgado: yeah
[12:41] <erUSUL> jims_: run 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver' it should give you a clue
[12:41] <erUSUL>                                                ^^^
[12:41] <erUSUL> Sorry for the typo
[12:42] <erUSUL> jims_: is xorg.conf
[12:42] <andelgado> in windows, i think MIDI in webpage is played by windows media player.
[12:42] <CoryK> why does the ubuntu wiki use a secure connection but the rest of the site doesn't?
[12:42] <andelgado> so whether the music is downloaded or not, still same media player is playing it.
[12:42] <jims_> erUSUL:  It says " Driver=Trident"
[12:43] <blunted> yo how do i change my console font
[12:43] <blunted> not in x
[12:43] <blunted> but the other console thingy
[12:43] <oolon> CoryK, so i can't add rm -rf / to mean upgrade all apps
[12:43] <andelgado> so, maybe firefox be configured to use music player to play sounds?
[12:43] <test34> with breezy, when I update the programs manually(with update manager), the automatic update pops up to tell me there is new updates available and and stays there even after I'm done installing the updates manually with the update manager
[12:43] <erUSUL> jims_: man trident
[12:43] <test34> bug ?
[12:43] <[Chameleon] > oolon: LOL, no that would downgrade all apps
[12:43] <SPCCrow> sup?
[12:43] <andelgado> simply pointing to music player all tasks for playing media?
[12:44] <Haler> help pls
[12:44] <SPCCrow> !info korean
[12:44] <Zhukov> hi
[12:44] <oolon> [Chameleon] , depending on how you look at it you would now have to install all new stuff :)
[12:44] <andelgado> [Chamleon] 
[12:44] <[Chameleon] > oolon: heheh
[12:44] <tombs> hi ppl
[12:44] <[Chameleon] > andelgado: andelgado
[12:45] <Zhukov> anyone here with breezy just for a quick question? (Dist-upgraded and some troubles came along...just wanna check if they are default)
[12:45] <Haler> how can i start ubuntu...it stops and ask for a user name and password and give me a new mail
[12:45] <SPCCrow> anyone know how to install Korean language support? also how to allow apt-get to read the universal package list?
[12:45] <andelgado> [Chameleon] : in windows, i think MIDI in webpage is played by windows media player.  so, maybe firefox be configured to use music player to play sounds?
[12:45] <Xorlev> apt-get update SPCCrow?
[12:45] <Zhukov> Does Best works out of the box in a fresh breezy install?
[12:45] <Seveas> Haler, did you install with 'server' or 'expert; option?
[12:45] <Seveas> SPCCrow: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[12:46] <MrFaber> Anyone useing XFCE?
[12:46] <[Chameleon] > andelgado: maybe... Google for it. I think when I was last trying to configure that, it required a midi player called "timidity" to be installed.
[12:46] <durt> yes mrfaber
[12:46] <serfurj> will ubuntu be less stable if i add a backports source to /etc/apt/source.list, then upgrade?
[12:46] <MrFaber> If I enable session saving it saves every window
[12:46] <MrFaber> and it restart the applications
[12:46] <[Chameleon] > andelgado: I don't think the "Music Player" in the menu will play MIDI actually...
[12:46] <Zhukov> Anyone with a fresh breezy install?
[12:46] <andelgado> thanks, i'll check it out
[12:46] <Seveas> SPCCrow, and installing the package language-support-ko should give you supprt for korean
[12:46] <MrFaber> but gnome gives me always an error like firefox isn't compatible I have to restart it on my own
[12:46] <[Chameleon] > Zhukov: mine was fresh a while ago. what's your problem?
[12:47] <MrFaber> Zhukov, yes
[12:47] <erUSUL> andelgado: well midi in linux is tricky too. Google for timidity and ubuntu to set up midi support
[12:47] <Zhukov> [Chameleon] , best isnt working...
[12:47] <Xappe> give me the name of a ftp-client that can take ssl
[12:47] <Xorlev> Okay, so I'm formatting my 120gb Windows drive and I'm thinking about mounting /home over there instead. Possible? I believe it is, but then how do I remove the old /home?
[12:47] <Zhukov> i mean, beagled starts, but the search seems to be un-inotifyed
[12:47] <blunted> how do i change my console font
[12:47] <durt> mrfaber, what does gnome have to do with anything?
[12:47] <andelgado> K. TY
[12:47] <Zhukov> the kernel has the inotify patch, right?
[12:47] <blunted> i wanna make it smaller
[12:47] <blunted> if that helps.
[12:48] <MrFaber> durt, xfce restart the applicatons which was opened on exit
[12:48] <erUSUL> Xorlev: copy the contents of /home to the new partition and mount it under home in fstab
[12:48] <MrFaber> gnome can only restart gtk2 applications which support a special feature
[12:48] <Xappe> nobody?
[12:48] <durt> mrfaber, and what do you want to accomplish?
[12:48] <MrFaber> Is there an option that gnome behaves like xfce
[12:49] <MrFaber> I mean Gnome uses for times more memory, at least :D
[12:49] <MrFaber> *four
[12:49] <erUSUL> Xappe: gFTP
[12:49] <Zhukov> MrFaber, [Chameleon]  do you have the same problem?
[12:49] <erUSUL> ?
[12:49] <jediprime> hello?
[12:49] <hablandocontigo> hey, is ";" in samba config a comment out mark?
[12:49] <MrFaber> Zhukov, haven't tested beagle
[12:49] <Xappe> erUSUL: not by default? I have to recompile?
[12:49] <durt> you want to use gnome and have it behave, like xfce? well i dont know how - i use xfce :P
[12:50] <MrFaber> durt, :)
[12:50] <[Chameleon] > Zhukov: I don't know... a lot of ppl seem to be having trouble with beagle in Breezy. Some have it working though. I don't have it working, but I haven't tried very hard. Right now I'm just trying to get my network working again on my Breezy box.
[12:50] <jediprime> does anyone know how to change the resolution without being in the Gui?
[12:50] <Haler> i install expert edition
[12:50] <[Chameleon] > Zhukov: I've heard that Beagle will be officially available (supported) in Breezy+1.
[12:50] <Zhukov> ok MrFaber and [Chameleon]  Thanks, ill try it here...
[12:50] <MrFaber> I really think about switching since gnome uses very much mem and xfce looks really nice too and has much features, some better than gnome :)
[12:50] <Zhukov> yeah i know...
[12:51] <Zhukov> damn, was really loking forward to breezy
[12:51] <andelgado> thanks people
[12:51] <jediprime> I am having resolution issues
[12:51] <MrFaber> durt, how can I use XFCE with Ubuntu
[12:51] <MrFaber> Just install and switch with gdm?
[12:51] <durt> yup
[12:52] <jediprime> can anyone help me or not?
[12:52] <MrFaber> I am going to test it
[12:53] <moparfan900> seeas, hello. i am sorry about that.
[12:53] <Haler> do u have site how to install it?
[12:53] <jediprime> I just installed Ubuntu and when the Gui comes up the resolution is really bad
[12:53] <moparfan900> seveas, hello sorry about before
[12:53] <jediprime> its unreadable
[12:53] <codecaine> what is it called when you embed an exe in another exe?
[12:53] <test34> I had resolution issues too, I had colored vertical lines across the screen.. It was the default color depth was too high(24) should have been 16...
[12:53] <durt> jediprime: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:54] <codecaine> there are programs that do this
[12:54] <hablandocontigo> hi, is ";" in a samba config file a "comment out" mark?
[12:54] <jediprime> where do I type this in at?
[12:54] <jediprime> i'm a newbie
[12:54] <durt> yes hablando
[12:54] <Xorlev> erUSUL: I know how to mount it under /home, but how do I remove the old /home data.
[12:54] <test34> jediprime, in a terminal window
[12:54] <hablandocontigo> durt thanks
[12:55] <jediprime> thanks
[12:55] <Enignon> GReetings all....just wondering if anyone has some time to spare and is willing to help out a total novice?
[12:55] <jediprime> how to you get it to stop from going in GUi during start up
[12:55] <erUSUL> Xorlev: sudo rm -Rf /home (this comand comes with absolutly *no warranty*)
[12:56] <erUSUL> Xorlev: you can even use nautilus
[12:56] <[Chameleon] > Enignon: just ask your question
[12:56] <durt> jediprime: just do it in the gui, or boot up in recovery mode (hit esc when it starts booting)
[12:56] <erUSUL> Xappe: lftp
[12:56] <jediprime> trying now
[12:57] <[Chameleon] > Xorlev: is the Windows drive formatted as NTFS?
[12:57] <test34> Xorlev,  cd home ; sudo rm -rf * ?
[12:57] <Xorlev> erUSUL: If my new data is mounted under home, sudo rm -rf /home will delete the new data.
[12:57] <jediprime> going in recovery mode
[12:57] <Xorlev> I'm asking how I would delete the old data.
[12:57] <moparfan900> ok i installed eric3 before and when i run it i get an error are there any dependances for eric3?
[12:57] <[Chameleon] > Xorlev: is the Windows drive formatted as NTFS?
[12:57] <test34> Xorlev, unmount it first
[12:57] <jediprime> me?
[12:57] <Xorlev> Chameleon22: It won't matter, it'll be ext3 once I'm done.
[12:57] <Xorlev> Bah
[12:57] <Xorlev> [Chameleon] 
[12:58] <[Chameleon] > yeah yeah
[12:58] <jediprime> ohh
[12:58] <erUSUL> Xorlev: obviusly you have to do this whith the other partition umounted
[12:58] <Enignon> Ok, I'm trying to get ubuntu installed on an old system, 48 ram, p-166 etc...no boot from CD function though....and there is where I'm getting stuck. the 5.10 install CD I have reads, but I can't seem to start the install manually after booting the box with cd support from an old win'98 boot disk...any suggestions?
[12:58] <Xorlev> erUSUL: All I needed to know.
[12:58] <[Chameleon] > Xorlev: so you are trying to remove Windows entirely?
[12:58] <erUSUL> Xorlev: in recovery mode or with a live cd
[12:58] <sexcopter8000m> i know this is a linux channel, but does anyone know of any free software to do basic image stuff (just want to crop a screenshot) that's available for windows?
[12:59] <moparfan900> error message   is in paste bin
[12:59] <Xorlev> [Chameleon] : Yes, and the only forseeable problem would be to remove the old /home, which apparently after unmounting the new /home will be easy.
[12:59] <erUSUL> sexcopter8000m: gimp
[12:59] <MrFaber> durt, does any important function of ubuntu doesn't work if I use xfce?
[01:00] <sexcopter8000m> erUSUL: can you use gimp in windows? windows xp i mean
[01:00] <athlon> Xorlev, is the old home a partition in itself ? in which case, you could just unmount and delete the partition. otherwise, just delete the directory
[01:00] <jediprime> ok i typed in sudo dpkg-reconfigure to change resolution
[01:00] <[Chameleon] > Enignon: you'll need to make a Linux boot floppy. Also, that is a development version, so you'll be updating it all of the time and some things might be broken. And even more to worry about is if 48 MB of RAM is enough to run Ubuntu. I don't think it is... at least, not in graphical mode.
[01:00] <jediprime> now its asking me for which package
[01:00] <Xorlev> sexcopter8000m: Why are you asking in a Linux channel?
[01:00] <jediprime> what to I type now
[01:00] <test34> http://linuxtoday.com/it_management/2005090902026OPMSSW <- windows vista might be free ?
[01:00] <erUSUL> Enignon: for this system maybe Debian sarge with a light window manager is a wiser choose of distribution
[01:00] <durt> mrfaber, it all works i think
[01:00] <jediprime> to change resolution
[01:00] <erUSUL> sexcopter8000m: yes google for it
[01:00] <Xorlev> athlon: No, its under the root partition, so I can just delete the old one.
[01:00] <MrFaber> you can access all configuration programs?
[01:00] <test34> sexcopter8000m, you can
[01:01] <[Chameleon] > sexcopter8000m: just download the Windows version from gimp.org
[01:01] <athlon> just delete the directory (after you copy it to the new partition, of course)
[01:01] <Xorlev> Windows Vista might be free? Doubt it. And even if I was, Linux is far better.
[01:01] <MrFaber> durt, should I stick with gdm or use and other like xdm?
[01:01] <Xorlev> I use KDE MrFaber =)
[01:01] <Enignon> erESUL: got told it should run....so I'll drop back to 5.04, as for making a linux boot floppy...any reccomendations on walkthroughs or a guide that a novice like me could follow?
[01:02] <MrFaber> Xorlev, Kubuntu?
[01:02] <jediprime> if it is asking which package to reconfigurel, how do I do the resolution
[01:02] <erUSUL> test34: yeah the hell is frozing over right now, i can feel the chill XD
[01:02] <jediprime> in the terminal
[01:02] <durt> mrfaber, i use gdm but you can use whatever you like
[01:02] <MrFaber> ok, testing xfce
[01:03] <test34> ersul and xorlev: maybe they are scared of ubuntu hehe
[01:03] <erUSUL> Enignon:  i do not know if ubuntu supports floppy instalation :(
[01:03] <durt> jediprime: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:04] <test34> anyone use intel i810 on board video card ? I have a problem with mine.. it looks slow
[01:05] <thewayofzen> quick question.. after  sudo apt-get install linux-686  does the old kernel delete itself or do i need to manually remove it?
[01:05] <robotgeek> ubotu X is to reconfigure X, do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' in a terminal
[01:05] <ubotu> ...but x is already something else...
[01:05] <robotgeek> !tell me about x
[01:05] <patrickj> ello
[01:05] <patrickj> does anyone know if DW8 works on Wine or Crossover Office yet?
[01:05] <erUSUL> thewayofzen: remove it manually (well with synaptic)
[01:06] <thewayofzen> erUSUL, what exactly do i need to remove..
[01:06] <BlueRose> does modems works wiht ubuntu ?
[01:06] <thewayofzen> Linux satori 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Thu Sep 8 06:18:41 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:06] <dabar> Just to let you know........ dabaR is in the house. hizzy, if you prefer.
[01:06] <jediprime> thanks
[01:06] <moparfan900> anyone here use eric3????/
[01:06] <BlueRose> i have question here
[01:06] <nathanel> BlueRose: depends on what kind of modem
[01:06] <Enignon> hmmm...I hate the idea of dumping 98 back on that box....it keeps getting infested by a 14yr old so I was hopping something more, robust would be a possibility...
[01:06] <thewayofzen> im gonna guess linux-386 ?
[01:07] <patrickj> ?
[01:07] <erUSUL> thewayofzen: the package tha t contains the kernel. search in synaptic
[01:07] <BlueRose> cearitve but ,  SmartLink chipset
[01:07] <patrickj> because I was thinking of installing ubuntu, but wondering if the new Dreamweaver 8 will work in it
[01:07] <hablandocontigo> sorry for spam earlier, by num lock was on
[01:07] <[Chameleon] > Enignon: older distros capable of running on that machine are still robust and able to do what the 14yo needs.
[01:08] <Enignon> Chameleon: Any suggestions as to which would be the best bet?
[01:08] <erUSUL> Enignon: i think that sarge is the best option
[01:08] <BlueRose> nathanel : does smartlink shipset works ?
[01:08] <[Chameleon] > Enignon: the suggestion by somebody else of debian sarge with a light-weight window manager made earlier was a good one.
[01:09] <erUSUL> BlueRose: check linmodems.org
[01:09] <hablandocontigo> when I try to log onto the samba share on my Ubuntu, Tiger doesn't offer a Guest log in, what is my Registered login?
[01:09] <Enignon> Ok....next no-brainer of a question....which debian sarge iso is the one I need? or do I need all 14....
[01:10] <nalioth> hablandocontigo: your user name and password
[01:10] <lokadin> say can i upgrade my ubuntu release without having to reinstall my computer?
[01:10] <erUSUL> Enignon: the first one would suffice
[01:10] <Enignon> thanks
[01:10] <[Chameleon] > Can anyone help me with a network connectivity problem in Breezy??
[01:10] <nalioth> hablandocontigo: you shouldnt be using samba to bridge between OSX and ubuntu, you should use nfs instead (it's native to both)
[01:11] <nalioth> lokadin: yes you can
[01:11] <erUSUL> !tell lokadin about upgrade2breezy
[01:11] <nalioth> lokadin: apt-get does it naturally
[01:11] <lokadin> er4z0r, thanks
[01:11] <lokadin> erUSUL, thanks
[01:11] <lsuactiafner> whats a good way to transfer huge files, around 5G from linux to windows? smb doesnt support over 2G, browsers ect tend to crash if i let ppl download it from ftp
[01:11] <nightswim> smb does support over 2G
[01:11] <jediprime> how to you start the gui from the terminal
[01:12] <nightswim> at least over here it does
[01:12] <lsuactiafner> nightswim : have you tried it emperically?
[01:12] <nightswim> yes
[01:12] <nightswim> dvd iso's
[01:12] <jediprime> how to you start the gui from the terminal
[01:12] <jediprime> ??
[01:12] <[Chameleon] > jediprime: startx
[01:12] <j0nas`> hey guys... having some trouble with xmms and mp3s...
[01:12] <erUSUL> lsuactiafner: you can set up nc (network cat) for transfer such a file
[01:12] <jediprime> thanks
[01:12] <[Chameleon] > jediprime: or gdm
[01:12] <j0nas`> searched the forums and still no luck
[01:13] <[Chameleon] > jediprime: gdm gets you the login screen
[01:13] <test34> firefox 1.5 beta 1 available in any repositories ?
[01:13] <j0nas`> which packages do you need?
[01:13] <erUSUL> lsuactiafner: i never tried but torically you can
[01:13] <hablandocontigo> nalioth I tried it logging in with my normal user/pass onto samba but doesn't work
[01:13] <nathanel> BlueRose: look out for the sl-modem-daemon package
[01:13] <erUSUL> !tell j0nas` about mp3
[01:13] <j0nas`> thx
[01:13] <lsuactiafner> thanks
[01:13] <j0nas`> frigging xmms freezes up solid when i try to play an mp3
[01:13] <dabar> [Chameleon] : what network issues, be more specifc in your questions, heps get the answer.
[01:14] <jediprime> i see a mouse cursor its a black X
[01:14] <Grant_> lsuactiafner: you could try using scp just turn off compression and it should be fast enough
[01:14] <BlueRose> ok nathanel
[01:14] <Grant_> lsuactiafner: assuming you have sshd on the pc you wanna send it to
[01:14] <lsuactiafner> i want to send from linux to windows
[01:15] <KanRiNiN> Hey, I downloaded gnome-vfs-sftp.deb so I can browse it through nautilus..but I'm a noob how do I install the deb file?
[01:15] <test34> How can I remove the little icons next to the items in the Applications/Places/System menus ?
[01:15] <Zaacc> !tell Zaacc about mp3
[01:15] <robotgeek> j0nas`: are you on x86?
[01:15] <lsuactiafner> whats a client for windows that supports scp and is free and easy to use?
[01:15] <Grant_> lsuactiafner: download winscp on the windows pc and just use that to connect to the linux pc and then copy using that
[01:15] <j0nas`> cygwin!
[01:15] <dabar> KanRiNiN: why did you download the deb as opposed to installing through synaptic?
[01:15] <Grant_> lsuactiafner: winscp is free and easy :)
[01:15] <Zaacc> i have the same issue with mp3s and xmms as j0nas` :(
[01:15] <erUSUL> lsuactiafner: Putty
[01:15] <jediprime> i got an error saying Failed to initalize Hal?
[01:15] <[Chameleon] > dabar: my mobo has two network ports. since the last update of packages, networking no longer works. I noticed that one of the ports was disabled, so I enabled it and activated both using the network-config GUI. Both connections say they are active, but they do not show in the list when I type ifconfig, only loopback...
[01:15] <jediprime> what is this?
[01:15] <j0nas`> Zaacc: have you found an alternative?
[01:16] <lsuactiafner> putty supports scp?
[01:16] <Zaacc> nope :/
[01:16] <[Chameleon] > dabar: my IP is supplied by DHCP from my WRT54G router.
[01:16] <KanRiNiN> synaptic doesn't have the package.  if yours does, I'd like to know your repos please
[01:16] <Zaacc> it's a pitty
[01:16] <j0nas`> tell me about it...
[01:16] <erUSUL> Zaacc: j0nas` try beep.media-player instead
[01:16] <nalioth> lsuactiafner: filezilla
[01:16] <dabar> Zaacc, j0nas`, in xmms, right click on it, then go options>preferences, and change the default output plugin to esound
[01:16] <j0nas`> would like to know what the issue is though
[01:16] <erUSUL> Zaacc: j0nas` try beep-media-player instead
[01:16] <j0nas`> very disconcerting
[01:16] <lsuactiafner> hmmk
[01:16] <j0nas`> dabar: thanks will try
[01:16] <BlueRose> hey nathanel
[01:16] <nalioth> Chameleon22: did you report the bug?
[01:17] <BlueRose> can i pm u
[01:17] <ksmurf> have the w32codecs been removed from extras?
[01:17] <Zaacc> thanks dabar will try that
[01:17] <dabar> j0nas`: good, will work:P
[01:17] <robotgeek> j0nas`: xmms has a bug and it has been reported. please use beep-media-player for now
[01:17] <[Chameleon] > nalioth: which bug? the networking being disabled?
[01:17] <test34> ksmurf, no
[01:17] <nalioth> Chameleon22: assuming it was working b4 the upgrade, yes
[01:17] <j0nas`> robotgeek... okay thanks :)
[01:17] <Zaacc> when i try play mp3s through the default media player that comes with Ubuntu * not too sure of the name * i get something like 'plugin required' could that be the problem?
[01:18] <dabar> [Chameleon] : tried to bring up the interfaces with sudo ifup $interface(eth0, for example...)
[01:18] <KanRiNiN> repos dabar?
[01:18] <[Chameleon] > nalioth: I will.
[01:18] <nathanel> BlueRose: any specific reason why you can't you post here, so others with the same problem could read too?
[01:18] <BlueRose> ok i will show u
[01:19] <dabar> KanRiNiN: what is your question, what repo it is in?
[01:19] <BlueRose> myself@Home:/media/floppy$ sudo dpkg -i sl-mod~1.deb(Reading database ... 58610 files and directories currently installed.)Preparing to replace sl-modem-daemon 2.9.9a-1ubuntu4 (using sl-mod~1.deb) ...Shutting down SmartLink Modem driver normally ... no slmodemd daemon running.Unpacking replacement sl-modem-daemon ...Setting up sl-modem-daemon (2.9.9a-1ubuntu4) ...Loading ALSA modem driver into kernel ... done.Starting SmartLink Modem driver for: .Creating 
[01:19] <[Chameleon] > dabar: I have... ifup says "There is already a pid file for /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid with pid 0' and later 'Network is down'. ifdown eth0 says 'interface eth0 is not configured' but it is configured.
[01:19] <robotgeek> j0nas`: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11028 , please try the workaround there and see it works
[01:19] <Dre> good morning.
[01:19] <[Chameleon] > dabar: I'm going to try rebooting the router...
[01:19] <KanRiNiN> I'm looking for a repo that will let me synaptic gnome-vfs-sfpt and gnome-vfs-extras
[01:19] <Dre> I was wondering if I can play warcraft with ubuntu
[01:19] <KanRiNiN> they fix a nautilus error
[01:19] <[Chameleon] > nalioth: i'll file it as soon as I get it working again!
[01:20] <BlueRose> is that ok nathanel
[01:20] <erUSUL> BlueRose: use paste.ubuntulinux.nl for this do not flood
[01:20] <dabar> KanRiNiN: where did you get the debs?
[01:20] <BlueRose> i told him i wanna pm him cuz i don't wanna flooded the channel
[01:20] <robotgeek> [Chameleon] : you might want to manually edit the file /etc/network/ifstate and ifdown it
[01:20] <jediprime> my sound will not work
[01:21] <BlueRose> is that means my modem installed now
[01:21] <jediprime> how do I configure my sound card?
[01:21] <erUSUL> jediprime: my sound do not wark is not very helpful
[01:21] <MrFaber> How can I disable gnome-screensaver? I like xscreensaver much more and it uses only 1/3 memory.
[01:21] <j0nas`> robotgeek: beep locks up when i try to play an mp3 as well
[01:21] <nathanel> BlueRose: Please use the pastebot from paste.ubuntulinux.nl and post the link here, thx. i think there are some lines missing from the end...
[01:21] <erUSUL> jediprime: my sound do not *work is not very helpful
[01:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> hey, i thought vfat was case insensitive.
[01:22] <j0nas`> sound card is working correctly though
[01:22] <ray__> ok.......my power went out....i was connected as another name....now xchat stil thinks that that username is in use
[01:22] <j0nas`> getting audio in totem
[01:22] <ray__> any way to fix
[01:22] <ian__> jediprime: what soundcard?
[01:22] <MrFaber> I have disabled it in gnome-screensaver-preferences but it is still started
[01:22] <robotgeek> j0nas`: could you try changing the output plugin
[01:22] <KanRiNiN> searched through google.  found them on a debian server.  figured it would work because ubuntu is based off it
[01:22] <j0nas`> in beep?
[01:22] <j0nas`> looking for the settings...
[01:22] <jediprime> ess sound card
[01:22] <ray__> MrFaber, did you restart x
[01:22] <BlueRose> that's all what i had
[01:22] <MrFaber> no, just logout
[01:22] <alturigo> wtf, is breezy broken or something? I've just dist-upgraded and I got a kernel panic...
[01:22] <MrFaber> and kill it before :)
[01:22] <robotgeek> j0nas`: ctl + p ->  plugins -> output
[01:22] <KanRiNiN> dabar, when I tried to sudo dpkg -i it, I got this "dpkg: regarding gnome-vfs-sftp_0.1.2-5_i386.deb containing gnome-vfs-sftp:
[01:22] <KanRiNiN>  libgnomevfs2-common conflicts with gnome-vfs-sftp
[01:23] <robotgeek> alturigo: breezy is broken till october 13
[01:23] <j0nas`> robotgeek: only have one mp3 plugin...
[01:23] <KanRiNiN> but the libgnomevfs is required for it, so it's wierd.
[01:23] <MrFaber> another good point for xscreensaver is that screen isn't directly locked after starting, at least you can set a higher time
[01:23] <j0nas`> hm switching to alsa output... just curious
[01:23] <robotgeek> j0nas`: in the plugins tab, there should be output
[01:24] <test34> alturigo, not broken for me
[01:24] <j0nas`> robotgeek: i see it, there is however only one mp3 audio plugin
[01:24] <dabar> KanRiNiN: there is a virtual package(meaning doesnt exist...) in my synaptic/aptitude... I have the repos as shown on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:24] <robotgeek> j0nas`: true
[01:24] <ProdegyX> Can someone Tell me how to install SuperKaramba On My Computer
[01:24] <johndarkhorse> ProdegyX: use synaptic
[01:24] <ProdegyX> How do I do that
[01:24] <ray__> oh no
[01:24] <johndarkhorse> !tell ProdegyX about synaptic
[01:25] <nathanel> BlueRose: If everything worked all right, the modem should now be accessible by /dev/ttySL0
[01:25] <MrFaber> cu all
[01:25] <BlueRose> not working
[01:25] <ProdegyX> Would SuperKaramba Already be on there?
[01:25] <BlueRose> i tried to configure it
[01:25] <BlueRose> and tried to connect and gives me this line
[01:25] <BlueRose> s
[01:26] <BlueRose> once i use from command line : sudo pon it's gives me this answer
[01:26] <BlueRose> /usr/sbin/pppd: In file /etc/ppp/peers/provider: unrecognized option '/dev/modem'
[01:26] <BlueRose> once i click on dialup connection it's gives me this warning box
[01:26] <BlueRose> kppp can not find:
[01:26] <BlueRose> /dev/ttySL0
[01:26] <BlueRose> Please make sure you have setup your modem device properly and/or adjust the location of the modem device on the modem tab of the setup dialog.
[01:26] <ProdegyX> In Synapatic Will SuperKaramba Already be in there?
[01:26] <butcherbird> !ubotu
[01:26] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:26] <ray__> ProdegyX, might as well check
[01:26] <ProdegyX> Ok its not there
[01:26] <ProdegyX> How do I get the Source
[01:26] <ProdegyX> to add it
[01:26] <ProdegyX> Cuz I downloaded it as Tar.Gz file
[01:27] <ProdegyX> but How do I install a Tar.GZ File
[01:27] <ray__> well you have to untar it
[01:27] <ProdegyX> I did
[01:27] <ProdegyX> Now what
[01:27] <ray__> ./configuee
[01:27] <Seveas> ProdegyX, don't
[01:27] <ray__> ./configure
[01:27] <Seveas> install things from synaptic
[01:27] <georgej> hello. Can someone give me a tip how I can get the promise sata150 sx4 working with breezy (kernel 2.6.12.-8-386 - sata_sx4 driver loaded)
[01:27] <Seveas> not from sources
[01:27] <ProdegyX> Ok
[01:27] <ProdegyX> well I untarred the Folder
[01:27] <ProdegyX> Now what do I do
[01:28] <ray__> Seveas, uhh what?
[01:28] <ray__> ./configure
[01:28] <ProdegyX> configure what
[01:28] <ProdegyX> where do I type that
[01:28] <dabar> superkaramba: (A program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.35-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 440 kB, Installed size: 1356 kB
[01:28] <crafteh> does ubunto use the apt system?
[01:28] <Seveas> ProdegyX, remove these sources...
[01:28] <Seveas> and install it with synaptic
[01:28] <ray__> ProdegyX, is this like your first day using linux
[01:28] <cafuego_> !tell ProdegyX -about compiling
[01:29] <erUSUL> crafteh: yes
[01:29] <johndarkhorse> [Chameleon] : living up to your nick?
[01:29] <ProdegyX> No I have had it for a week
[01:29] <dabar> add universe to synaptic, ProdegyX.
[01:29] <ray__> is it in universe
[01:29] <[Chameleon] > johndarkhorse: I'm using my wife's laptop because my desktop can't connect.
[01:29] <cafuego_> ProdegyX: You shouldn't need to compile *at all* much like on Windows or OSX.
[01:29] <ProdegyX> I need more explaining
[01:30] <ProdegyX> How do I install a file
[01:30] <ProdegyX> you get what I mean
[01:30] <ProdegyX> Like
[01:30] <ProdegyX> I want to run SuperKaramba so I can Put a new theme on
[01:30] <ProdegyX> KDE Theme
[01:30] <[Chameleon] > johndarkhorse: OIC
[01:30] <cafuego_> ProdegyX: Then install superkaramba via synaptic.
[01:30] <alturigo> mmm, interesting... linux-image-2.6.12-8-386 (2.6.12-8.12) to 2.6.12-8.13  <-- if you use breezy avoid updating that, seems to be broken
[01:30] <dabar> ProdegyX: keep your posts in one line, so I can read it.
[01:30] <cafuego_> !info superkaramba
[01:30] <Seveas> ProdegyX, stop using <enter> as punctuation
[01:30] <ubotu> superkaramba: (A program based on karamba improving the eyecandy of KDE), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 0.35-2ubuntu2 (hoary), Packaged size: 440 kB, Installed size: 1356 kB
[01:30] <Seveas> it's incredibly annoying
[01:30] <ray__> cafuego, tell his
[01:31] <ProdegyX> Ok How do I install it using Synapatic
[01:31] <erUSUL> ProdegyX: fire up Synaptic (System->confi..->Synaptic) and search for supercaramba mark it for instalation and you are done
[01:31] <Seveas> wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[01:31] <ProdegyX> Superkaramba isnt on there
[01:31] <[Chameleon] > alturigo: can you give more detail of what is broken with it?
[01:31] <nathanel> BlueRose`: ok, you need to install sl-modem-source as well
[01:31] <[Chameleon] > alturigo: I updated to that and am having trouble.
[01:31] <cafuego_> !repos
[01:31] <ubotu> repos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[01:31] <Seveas> ProdegyX, enable universe
[01:31] <[Wiebel] > how should one configure X.org in breezy?
[01:31] <Xorlev> Okies, wrote new partition table. Now should I do mkfs -b 4096 -t ext3 /dev/sda1?
[01:31] <[Wiebel] > xorgcfg seems to be missing
[01:31] <Seveas> look at what ubotu just said
[01:31] <ProdegyX> and how would I enable universe
[01:31] <ProdegyX> i am a newb
[01:32] <cafuego_> ProdegyX: GO to http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto , read that page.
[01:32] <jediprime> i have an ess audiodrive sound card and it won't work how do I fix this?
[01:32] <ProdegyX> I KNOW HOW TO ADD A REPOSITORIE
[01:32] <cafuego_> ProdegyX: Well, DO IT THEN.
[01:32] <johndarkhorse> ProdegyX: easy, mister. search with synaptic
[01:32] <cafuego_> ProdegyX: Once you add universe, you will be able to install superkaramba.
[01:32] <[Wiebel] > anyone?
[01:32] <alturigo> [Chameleon] , I got a kernel panic and windows has been erased from grub boot menu
[01:33] <TokenBad> ok have problem...my background is black and even when pick a picture and apply it stays black
[01:33] <Seveas> [Wiebel] , edit corg.conf manually or use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:33] <cafuego_> ProdegyX: Feel free to not privmsg me.
[01:33] <Seveas> xorg.conf of cours
[01:33] <[Chameleon] > alturigo: the windows grub boot thing is a known issue and not related to the kernel itself, but to the script that modifies the /boot/grub/menu.list after installing.
[01:33] <dabar> ProdegyX: universe is a repository. I suggest you go read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto first, then http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto . you want to enable universe repository in synaptic, and then pres the reload button, after which superkaramba will be available.
[01:33] <jediprime> is the ess sound card compatible?
[01:34] <TokenBad> any idea why that would happen
[01:34] <kairu0> hi all. i'd like an improved sources.list in breezy. i dont have jre, flash-nonfree, etc. in my package list. where can i get a new sources.list? by the way i have universe enabled
[01:34] <[Wiebel] > Seveas: is there a reason xorgcfg is no longer included ?
[01:34] <erUSUL> jediprime: go to alsa-project.org and look it up
[01:34] <Seveas> [Wiebel] , maybe it's in another package...
[01:34] <mustafu> !tell kairu0 about repos
[01:34] <[Wiebel] > it could
[01:35] <Seveas> jre -> hoary-extras (yes the jre from there works on breezy)
[01:35] <Seveas> flashplayer-mozilla -> multiverse
[01:35] <kairu0> seveas: thanks!
[01:36] <kairu0> seveas: can i get w32codecs from hoary-extras?
[01:36] <Seveas> sure
[01:36] <alturigo> [Chameleon] , I see, I thought it was related because until now I didn't notice. did you get a kernel panic too=?
[01:37] <kairu0> cool
[01:38] <KanRiNiN> is there a way to reset your synaptic repos?  When I go to repos it just tries to rebuild the libraries, I can't even view the repos
[01:38] <dabar> KanRiNiN: same issue here...you can perhaps manually edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file.
[01:38] <TokenBad> is there a way to restart the background in kde?
[01:38] <johndarkhorse> KanRiNiN: breezy or hoary?
[01:39] <kairu0> aarggh w32codecs isnt in hoary-extras!
[01:39] <johndarkhorse> kairu0: www.mplayerhq.hu  on the download page
[01:39] <kairu0> cool thnkx
[01:39] <butcherbird> kairu0, I believe they are
[01:40] <TokenBad> kairu0, did you add all the resource sites to your repository list and then apt-get update?
[01:41] <DewDude> so is anyone else in here running breezy preview on powerpc?
[01:41] <jediprime> can you use KDE with Ubuntu?
[01:41] <DewDude> jediprime: yes
[01:41] <TokenBad> jediprime, I am now
[01:41] <DewDude> you can either sudo apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[01:41] <jediprime> how
[01:41] <DewDude> or download kubuntu
[01:41] <butcherbird> jediprime, you can I dont know why you'd want to =)
[01:41] <jediprime> ??
[01:41] <TokenBad> I like kde better than gnome
[01:41] <butcherbird> bah
[01:41] <Kyral> Don't start with the GNOME KDE War
[01:42] <DewDude> jej
[01:42] <DewDude> heh
[01:42] <lonewolff> DewDude: u am running breezy on ppc
[01:42] <DewDude> lonewolff, how's it goin for you?
[01:42] <TokenBad> not starting a war..to each their own...I just say I liked it better
[01:42] <jediprime> well nvm then
[01:42] <test34> How to enable remote desktop remotely from ssh ?
[01:42] <jediprime> don't wanna start anything
[01:42] <lonewolff> DewDude: I am even
[01:42] <Brunellus> what does it mean when bonobo returns an error of 3
[01:42] <DewDude> even as in?
[01:42] <erUSUL> well people who like kde shoul be using a kde centric distri like mepis or suse or ....
[01:42] <Versed`> I used to like kde better, both are fine and use them, but gnome seems so much cleaner.
[01:43] <lonewolff> DewDude: it is goign well, no problems so far
[01:43] <DewDude> i've tried both
[01:43] <DewDude> on ubuntu
[01:43] <DewDude> and, both run about equally
[01:43] <DewDude> at least on my ppc they do
[01:43] <dabar> DewDude: when installing, try to recommend aptitude, if you want a command line tool. Especially for something like kubuntu-desktop, with many dependencies. This is so that if the person decides to remove the package, aptitude remove removes all dependencies that were installed with the package
[01:43] <Versed`> same dew, using ubuntu on a g4-450
[01:43] <TokenBad> ok here is question...in kde a popup came up about something not responding and asked if wanted to quit...I said yes and now my background on my desktop is gone
[01:43] <DewDude> ahhh
[01:43] <georgej> Hello, Can anyone give me a tip how I get the promise s150 sx4 sata raidcontroller working on breezy (kernel 2.6.12-8-386 - sata_sx4 loaded)
[01:43] <DewDude> dabar: ok
[01:44] <lonewolff> Versed`: g4?
[01:44] <jediprime> what is the best looking gnome theme?
[01:44] <Versed`> yes
[01:44] <Versed`> mac g4
[01:44] <DewDude> i don't know anything about aptitude
[01:44] <lonewolff> what mac is that in then?
[01:44] <Brunellus> jediprime:  that's a subjective question
[01:44] <Brunellus> I like clearlooks
[01:44] <Versed`> about 5 year old.
[01:44] <erUSUL> TokenBad: have you tried somothin like log out and log in
[01:44] <lonewolff> you sure its not g3
[01:44] <Brunellus> but I run openbox inside gnome
[01:44] <Versed`> yes, I am very sure
[01:44] <robotgeek> Brunellus: same here, very nice!
[01:44] <DewDude> i need to study on gnome desktop modding and stuff
[01:44] <TokenBad> I was hoping wouldn't have to do that
[01:44] <erUSUL> TokenBad: or reboot sometimes we resort to windows like solutions ;)
[01:44] <Brunellus> although right now I'm not running gnome at all
[01:45] <DewDude> i'd like to make my desktop look like some of the screeshots i've seen
[01:45] <lonewolff> Versed`: im curious, what mac shipped with a g4 450?
[01:45] <dabar> DewDude: sudo aptitude install|remove|search is what I use. ~n is the regex for zero or more of any characters, like apt-get install gstreamer0.8-* <-- the star.
[01:45] <Brunellus> DewDude:  it isn't all that hard....
[01:45] <Brunellus> the howtos on ubuntuforums are great
[01:45] <Versed`> this one http://www.lowendmac.com/ppc/g4saw.shtml
[01:45] <Versed`> sawtooth
[01:45] <DewDude> well, see, i was using kde...and i installed gnome just to see if it was easier to make look unique...but, i haven't figured it out on both
[01:46] <dabar> DewDude: wanna see a really cool screenshot?
[01:46] <lonewolff> Versed`: aha, i had forgotten about the,
[01:46] <DewDude> dabar: sure
[01:46] <lonewolff> them*
[01:46] <Versed`> no problem, bought it new way back
[01:46] <Brunellus> does anyone know anything about bonobo?
[01:46] <DewDude> i've got a iMac G3 400 DV
[01:46] <lonewolff> i have a iMac G3 450 DV+
[01:46] <dabar> DewDude: let me make it...and the usability is even cooler. You should try openbox. I use it mainly for one thing - scroll wheel window fold/roll up.
[01:46] <DewDude> heh
[01:47] <DewDude> heh
[01:47] <DewDude> well, i've been using KDE because, it's all i knew how to use
[01:47] <lonewolff> (with some extra ram added)
[01:47] <butcherbird> jediprime, art.gnome.org has a faq on installing new themes and such
[01:47] <DewDude> but, after using gnome...i've pretty much gotten better at linux in general
[01:47] <DewDude> i just want something that someone will look at and drool
[01:47] <Brunellus> DewDude:  then run e17
[01:48] <Brunellus> although that will require a fair bit of work
[01:48] <DewDude> i'm low on ram mind you
[01:48] <Brunellus> but e17 looks pretty awesome.
[01:48] <DewDude> 384 MB
[01:48] <Brunellus> 384 is enough for gnome if you're careful
[01:48] <Brunellus> but when I had 256
[01:48] <Brunellus> I ran fluxbox
[01:48] <Brunellus> and loved it
[01:48] <DewDude> well
[01:48] <DewDude> actually
[01:48] <Brunellus> it looked suitably hard.
[01:48] <lonewolff> kde runs fine on 320mb, not tried gnome
[01:48] <DewDude> after installing breezy, switching to gnome
[01:48] <DewDude> i've noticed it's been running faster
[01:49] <DewDude> but i noticed the most improvement the other day when i ran an upgrade
[01:49] <memin> Hello
[01:49] <DewDude> and it installed like, almost all new xorg and ubuntu-desktop
[01:49] <wheaton> I am trying to make ubuntu's latest preview release work on a old Celeron 400 with 256 MB of ram.  old Rage 128 built in on the motherboard..  after everything is installed and it goes for first boot it doesnt work.  however during the install there is a phase where it seems to get x working..  any ideas for a noob like me?
[01:50] <DewDude> lonewolff: have you tried GRI on your imac's ATI card?
[01:50] <DewDude> errr
[01:50] <DewDude> DRI
[01:50] <JDahl> wheaton, try booting with recovery mode
[01:50] <kairu0> now i have the codecs for mplayer but i dont know where my plugin directory is. how can i find it?
[01:50] <memin> is something wrong with the us repositories some pkgs can't be downloaded?
[01:50] <DewDude> i remember in Hoary i enabled it and xorg would freeze randomly
[01:50] <wheaton> JDahl how do you do that?
[01:50] <lonewolff> DewDude: not on the Imac
[01:50] <DewDude> ok
[01:50] <benkong2> question I want to install ubuntu x86_64 on my hp zv5000 can i do a chroot install of 32bit firefox so that I have flash etc?
[01:51] <JDahl> wheaton, when you boot Ubuntu you can choose "recovery mode". That will boot Ubuntu, but not start X
[01:51] <lonewolff> graphics card is not really up to doing anything which would require 3d lol, what with the tiny amoutn of vram
[01:51] <DewDude> true
[01:51] <benkong2> how safe is breezy badger?
[01:51] <DewDude> but i thought it might provide some 2d acceleration
[01:52] <wheaton> after in the recover mode do what?
[01:52] <malv> is there a way for gaim to flash the taskbar when a message is received?
[01:52] <wheaton> it gives me a prompt after failing to boot
[01:52] <crimsun> malv: sure, enable the notification plugin and configure it
[01:52] <[Chameleon] > malv: it does so in Breezy.
[01:52] <MrMaDSeN> hello
[01:52] <malv> thank you
[01:52] <robotgeek> malv: also take a look at gaim-guifications pluin
[01:52] <JDahl> wheaton, are you booted in recovery mode? then try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:52] <[Chameleon] > malv: all apps needing attention in Breezy flash the taskbar
[01:52] <MrMaDSeN> anyone got source for sun java install via apt?
[01:53] <wheaton> thanks for the help..  I will do that now..
[01:53] <wheaton> have to switch off and try that..
[01:53] <malv> [Chameleon] : I am still on Hoary
[01:53] <wheaton> JDahl thanks so much.  If it works I will return and let you know.
[01:54] <memin> Is something wrong with the us repositories some pkgs can't be downloaded?
[01:54] <moreCowbell> I just tried booting my 20" imac from a ubunto live cd, it crashes and dumps me into the open firmware prompt (tho anything I type doesn't show up on the screen and it seems otherwise unresponsive, so I assume that's hung too)
[01:54] <butcherbird> memin, in hoary?
[01:54] <moreCowbell> is this a known problem?
[01:54] <memin> yes
[01:55] <[Chameleon] > malv: I figured.
[01:55] <jediprime> does unbuntu support wireless nic's?\
[01:55] <butcherbird> memin, just pulled a bunch of stuff no problems
[01:55] <crimsun> jediprime: sure
[01:55] <memin> mmm
[01:55] <[Chameleon] > jediprime: some models are native.
[01:55] <johndarkhorse> moreCowbell: the newer G5 imacs aren't very linux friendly
[01:55] <[Chameleon] > jediprime: others can be used with the ndiswrapper
[01:55] <butcherbird> apt-get update giving errors?
[01:55] <lonewolff> DewDude: i may try DRI this weekend tho, I am suitably bored atm lol
[01:55] <jediprime> how do I enable it
[01:55] <memin> can't download w32codecs
[01:56] <moreCowbell> hmmm, so am I hosed at this point until someone fixes it? or is there a fix somewhere?
[01:56] <memin> adobe
[01:56] <memin> and java
[01:56] <johndarkhorse> moreCowbell: when the breezy releases on oct 13, i'm sure it will work
[01:56] <erUSUL> jediprime: known which card is yours will sure help us help you
[01:56] <moreCowbell> hmmm... "breezy" *searches for pre-release image*
[01:56] <johndarkhorse> moreCowbell: i can run the installer on my imac almost flawlessly, but it hits a known bug there, too
[01:57] <butcherbird> memin, if you apt-cache search w32codecs does it return with the package?
[01:57] <johndarkhorse> moreCowbell: breezy will release oct 13
[01:57] <jediprime> its a iblitz wirless lan card model bwp612b
[01:57] <memin> butcherbird what is the exact command for that?
[01:57] <[Chameleon] > dabar: networking is still not working on that box.
[01:58] <moreCowbell> k thanks
[01:58] <MrMaDSeN> any had problem with intels hd audio motberboard chipsets for audio?
[01:58] <butcherbird> memin, "apt-cache search w32codecs"
[01:58] <thewayofzen> question:   sudo apt-get install blackbox   when i login to my session.. the sounds that USED to work in gnome.. no longer work
[01:58] <erUSUL> MrMaDSeN: i915?
[01:59] <annex> I moved from an old version of Xfree86 to Xorg and I have noticed a performance decrease and Xorg takes about 20-30% more CPU than before for drawing things.  I have a xinerama setup with a modern Nvidia card and an old ATI card.  I've noticed the performance issue seems to be created by using the ATI card for my second monitor since if I run only on the Nvidia card the problem goes away.  I'm using the binary nvidia driver and the free ati driv
[01:59] <MrMaDSeN> i915GAG  yes
[01:59] <[Chameleon] > dabar: dhclient says "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Permission denied" and "SIOCSIFADDR: Permission denied" as its first output
[01:59] <[Chameleon] > dabar: this even is as root
[02:00] <MrMaDSeN> erUSUL, i915GAG  yes
[02:00] <erUSUL> MrMaDSeN: i915 is not suported by alsa. check alsa-project.org may i be wrong...
[02:00] <jediprime> having trouble enabling the wireless nic (Iblitz)
[02:00] <robotgeek> jediprime: can u post the lspci output to pastebin ?
[02:00] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: HDA works fine, but some codecs have serious problems.
[02:00] <jediprime> not sure
[02:00] <jediprime> how do I do it
[02:01] <johndarkhorse> moreCowbell: i've found no current distro will install on the newer G5 imac
[02:01] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: cant get any audio at all
[02:01] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: hoary or breezy?
[02:01] <MrMaDSeN> hoary
[02:01] <memin> butcherbird Reading package lists... Done
[02:01] <memin> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:01] <memin> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:01] <memin> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:01] <memin> is only available from another source
[02:01] <memin> E: Package w32codecs has no installation candidate
[02:01] <robotgeek> jediprime: open up a terminal, type lspci and copy paste the resulting text to pastebin
[02:01] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: you'd need the azx driver
[02:01] <crimsun> !tell MrMaDSeN about alsa-source
[02:01] <robotgeek> !tell jediprime about pastebin
[02:02] <johndarkhorse> memin: do not paste in here, please
[02:02] <memin> sorry
[02:02] <johndarkhorse> memin: use a pastein (see /topic) or #flood
[02:02] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: otherwise, boot into a breezy live cd and run this command: ''tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''
[02:02] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: then tell me the output
[02:04] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: should I agree with that blue screen popping up  regarding isa pnp support?
[02:05] <absenth> is anyone here familiar with any tools that might allow management of a windows 2000 active directory from linux?
[02:05] <butcherbird> memin, do 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' goto http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/366732 copy and paste to your sources.list save over any existing text
[02:05] <mpm2> not specifically ubuntu related, but does anyone know how to compile a program in say Pascal on Linux (Ubuntu) and have it be executable on someone else's Windows machine?  Is it compatible by default?  I'm very new to programming :-)
[02:06] <butcherbird> memin, then sudo apt-get update
[02:06] <xTina> mpm2: You would need a cross-compiler to do that.
[02:06] <unk0wn2u> mpm2, you have to cross-compile no it wouldn't work by default
[02:06] <erUSUL> mpm2: it is not possible to do that
[02:07] <lonewolff> hmmm, thats weird, when i turn my colors down from 24 to 16 bits the machine locks up a lot :S
[02:07] <xTina> absenth: No, but I can give you tons of whining about pam_sso ;)
[02:07] <mpm2> any of you know whether the Gnu Pascal Compiler (GPC) supports cross-compiling? Thanks for the answers
[02:07] <JDahl> mpm2, you might consider using an interpreted language like Python or Java. Then you wouldn't have to worry about compiling
[02:07] <butcherbird> memin, gotta go hope that worked
[02:07] <thewayofzen> problem: i have fully functional sound in gnome..  but in blackbox and fluxbox i do not get any sound at all.  ive searched the forums and stuff without luck.. HELP PLEASE?
[02:08] <test34> How can I remove the little icons next to the items in the Applications/Places/System menus ?
[02:08] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: the instructions tell you what to do
[02:08] <mpm2> JDahl: yes, I'm not going to be using Pacal in the long run, just wanted to share stuff I'm working on for a class with my sister who doesn't run linux yet :-)
[02:08] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : you wont have sounds of icons ect in blackbox.. there are no icons and stupid sounds..
[02:08] <robotgeek> thewayofzen: do u meant to say that mp3's don't play in fluxbox, while they do in gnome?
[02:08] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : xmms ect should still work
[02:08] <xTina> mpm2: Why don't you just recompile it on Windows?
[02:09] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : if xmms doesnt work change the audio out from esd to alsa
[02:09] <xTina> mpm2: http://www.umanitoba.ca/campus/acn/unix/software/vendor_html/gpc/gpc_55.html#SEC55 has some info btw
[02:09] <crimsun> thewayofzen: neither blackbox nor fluxbox invoke esd automatically like gnome does
[02:09] <dabar> DewDude: you here still?
[02:09] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : blackbox is leet tho, no clutter and stupid things.
[02:09] <thewayofzen> i dont want desktop sounds
[02:10] <thewayofzen> i want rhythmbox to play
[02:10] <thewayofzen> and gaim to have sounds
[02:10] <thewayofzen> etc
[02:10] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: still no sound... should I reboot
[02:10] <thewayofzen> at the same time would be nice too
[02:10] <absenth> xTina: I'm not sure what pam_sso is, so, go ahead and whine away :)
[02:10] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: you have to modprobe snd-azx
[02:10] <robotgeek> thewayofzen: open up a terminal and type esd &
[02:10] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : run esd or change the audio out to alsa not esd for those apps...
[02:10] <mpm2> xTina: thanks; recompiling on windows is a good idea :-) I'm reading that link (you found it faster than I!)
[02:10] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: I dont understand what your saying ... sorry
[02:10] <astronut> is there a good mirror that has wordpess 1.5?
[02:11] <astronut> err, s/mirror/repository
[02:11] <astronut> or will the debian version work?
[02:11] <JDahl> I justed upgraded to Breezy on my "messing around" machine... You guys did a really nice job with the eye-candy!
[02:11] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: in a Terminal, sudo modprobe snd-azx
[02:11] <thewayofzen> im guessing rhythmbox doesnt allow me to change its output
[02:11] <jediprime> is ubuntu debian?
[02:11] <robotgeek> !info wordpress
[02:11] <ubotu> wordpress: (a semantic personal publishing platform or weblog manager), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 1.2.2-1.1 (hoary), Packaged size: 233 kB, Installed size: 1392 kB
[02:11] <astronut> 1.2 is old, 1.5 is later version
[02:11] <mik3> does converting rpm's to deb's does alien usually take a long time (depending on hardware obviously)
[02:11] <xTina> absenth: It's a PAM module from Microsoft's Services for Unix. And it's weird. Though it's in good company with pam_unix in that regard ;)
[02:11] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : am sure it has an option somewhere...
[02:11] <Quinthius> thewayofzen: rhythmbox should use whatever output you have set in the multimedia selector
[02:11] <robotgeek> astronut: i know, just download off the wordpress site
[02:11] <Quinthius> thewayofzen: which is the gstreamer output
[02:11] <astronut> is there an unoffical repository with 1.5 packages?
[02:12] <astronut> robotgeek: not .deb's
[02:12] <lsuactiafner> thewayofzen : <robotgeek> thewayofzen: open up a terminal and type esd &
[02:12] <jediprime> thanks for everyones help I will be back tommarrow
[02:12] <xTina> mik3: No.
[02:12] <robotgeek> astronut: true
[02:12] <jediprime> I am converting completely to Linux and need help
[02:12] <thewayofzen> i have sound in XMMS with alsa
[02:12] <thewayofzen> no alsa option in gaim
[02:13] <dabar> jediprime: ubuntu is not exactly debian, no, ubuntu is ubuntu.
[02:13] <lsuactiafner> jediprime : take 2 calming pills.. linux rocks..
[02:13] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: then log out of GNOME and back in
[02:13] <thewayofzen> which is better.. alsa or esd?
[02:13] <robotgeek> thewayofzen: you might have to set command "aplay %s"
[02:13] <crimsun> ALSA directly
[02:13] <jediprime> Linux does rock
[02:13] <thewayofzen> where %s is alsa or esd?
[02:14] <crimsun> no, that's literal
[02:14] <thewayofzen> ok
[02:14] <thewayofzen> i get no such file or directory
[02:14] <mik3> how do i install EVERY perl lib available
[02:15] <robotgeek> thewayofzen: open up gaim, go to preferences, then sounds...then it says command..there aplay is the command, %s is the sound file
[02:15] <absenth> xTina: think setting up a linux box with samba as a bdc, I MIGHT be able to manage users/groups?
[02:16] <robotgeek> astronut: breezy has the newer version, 1.5.2, but i guess you'lll have to wait
[02:16] <lancer285> Hey guys, I'm having some problems w/ my DNS settings
[02:16] <thewayofzen> i think i might have fixed it lemme check.. brb
[02:16] <dabar> robotgeek: can you pastebin #ubuntu-nun so I can save those ideas I had?
[02:17] <saidin> hello..
[02:17] <lsuactiafner> lancer285 : edit /etc/resolv.conf
[02:17] <lancer285> for some reason the computer keeps adding 192.168.0.1 into my DNS list, and its keeping the browser from working
[02:17] <iratsu> how stable is breezy?
[02:17] <xTina> absenth: I have no idea :)
[02:17] <lsuactiafner> lancer285 : it shouldnt.
[02:17] <benplaut> iratsu: quite stable enough to use
[02:17] <lancer285> lsuactiafner, I know, but it is. (:
[02:17] <benplaut> free of mot bugs
[02:18] <lsuactiafner> lool
[02:18] <lancer285> lsuactiafner, We moved and got a differernt network setup in the house now. I don't use 192.168.0.1 as the gateway for anything now.
[02:18] <saidin> does anyone know if its possible to install this dstro while you have redhat on <.< cause i have no cd to burn it to
[02:18] <robotgeek> dabar: sure, gimme a moment
[02:19] <unk0wn2u> saidin, I'll sell you a cd for $90
[02:19] <saidin> >.>
[02:19] <saidin> well i meant
[02:19] <saidin> i dont have a burner
[02:19] <unk0wn2u> saidin, I'll sell you a cd for $90
[02:19] <saidin> or a cd to burn it to anyways
[02:19] <lancer285> lsuactiafner, /etc/resolv.conf just has the right DNS in it now. There's something that's adding the local address automatically
[02:20] <flugh> man, why does ANYONE use anything besides ubuntu? why? you tell me... (sorry, having a moment here  ;)
[02:20] <kairu0> flugh, because win98 JUST WORKS! (joke~
[02:20] <test34> Can I tell synaptic to use a directory as a repository ?
[02:20] <unk0wn2u> flugh, fedora has system-config-tools
[02:21] <rob_p> lancer285:  Is your IP static or dynamic?
[02:21] <saidin> it was the only cd i had >.> not by choice
[02:21] <xTina> saidin: Yes, it is possible.
[02:21] <lancer285> rob_p its dynamic
[02:22] <flugh> unk0wn2u: bugger FC*
[02:22] <saidin> how would i go about that tina <.<
[02:22] <rob_p> lancer285:  Then your router is misconfigured.
[02:22] <flugh> unk0wn2u: i have to use it at work. but i sit at home with ubuntu, and wonder WHY???? :)
[02:22] <rob_p> lancer285:  login and check your dns settings in the router.
[02:22] <lancer285> rob_p okay
[02:23] <johndarkhorse> test34: you'll need specific objects in any directory you use for a local repo
[02:23] <flugh> kairu0: hehe, that's funny. you know, my dad still swears win 3.11 worked too. dunno what he's smokin'
[02:23] <xTina> saidin: Basically you download an installer kernel and initrd to your drive, and tell your boot manager or a sufficiently clever boot cd to boot it.
[02:23] <xTina> saidin: This should enable you to do a network install.
[02:23] <kairu0> flugh, win 3.11 was very effective for playing solitaire and moving around program groups
[02:23] <lancer285> rob_p in my router, I have the dns server set to 'static' with the numbers for the dns plugged in
[02:23] <MrMaDSeN> damn sound :(
[02:23] <johndarkhorse> test34: to learn more, go read about apt-build
[02:24] <lancer285> instead of using dhcp to assign the dns
[02:24] <saidin> uhh i didnt understand any of that >.>
[02:24] <saidin> im noob to linux lol
[02:24] <dabaR> XD
[02:24] <xTina> saidin: Then you probably want to get a CD. You can order one for free on the website.
[02:25] <saidin> ya and wait a month <.<
[02:25] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: no progress at all
[02:25] <saidin> im using an extremly old version of redhat lol
[02:25] <xTina> saidin: Ask a friend to burn it?
[02:25] <rob_p> lancer285:  Are you sure that you have the DNS IP addresses entered correctly in the router?
[02:25] <dabaR> saidin: debian has a netinstall cd, very small for download...
[02:25] <[Chameleon] > Anybody tried upgrading Breezy x86 to Breezy AMD64?
[02:25] <dabaR> or even a floppy, have a floppy?
[02:26] <saidin> i can find afew floppys i guess <.<
[02:26] <lancer285> rob_p yes, I talked to Qwest DSL, and that was the numers he gave me. Like I said. if I run the network admin tool in ubuntu, it lists the local and the correct dns IP
[02:26] <dabaR> try downloading the debian flopppy. #debian I dont think ubuntu has one.
[02:26] <saidin> ok ty
[02:27] <dabaR> 5$
[02:27] <dabaR> heh
[02:27] <lancer285> rob_p: then I have to delete the local (192.168.0.1) but for some strange reason, the local address KEEPS showing up in that list after a few hours
[02:27] <saidin> <.<
[02:27] <malv> what exactly is a backport?
[02:27] <saidin> would it be possible if i use a floppy boot to install ubuntu
[02:28] <rob_p> lancer285:  Again, your router is at fault!  Either it is misconfigured or it's broken!
[02:28] <dabaR> a modification of a package for a newer unstable version of gnu/linux to work with a stable older version.
[02:28] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: what have you done?
[02:28] <xTina> malv: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[02:28] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: nothing.. logged out.. logged in
[02:29] <dabaR> crimsun: right? thats what a bacport is, right?
[02:29] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: started vlc... no sound
[02:29] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
[02:29] <lancer285> rob_p I guess I was thinking that there was a setting somewhere that's telling my comp to use both the local and the global ip addresses for the DNS. It keeps adding that entry. My router is doing that?
[02:29] <crimsun> dabaR: more or less
[02:29] <rob_p> lancer285:  Yes.  I believe it is.
[02:29] <lancer285> kzm, i'll see what I can do
[02:30] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: 0: Realtek ALC880  1: SigmaTel STAC9759/51
[02:30] <crimsun> oh geez
[02:31] <MrMaDSeN> yes theres two
[02:31] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: I'm sorry, but your codec is currently unsupported _completely_
[02:31] <crimsun> the ALC880 is a complete mess, and realtek needs to pass its modifications back to ALSA
[02:31] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: ok... :((((
[02:31] <pr0tocol> sup guys
[02:31] <kairu0> sup dogggg
[02:31] <MrMaDSeN> well it is completely new... btw...
[02:31] <pr0tocol> nuttin much
[02:31] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: realtek has a modified set of drivers that they provide that will give you sound, but it will be distorted
[02:32] <pr0tocol> so...anyone here got their FX5200 to work with Breezy yet?
[02:32] <kairu0> which environment variable decides the language of the interface? is it LANG?
[02:32] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: ok then...
[02:32] <crimsun> $LANG
[02:32] <kairu0> or LANGUAGE?
[02:32] <kairu0> cool thnkx
[02:32] <johndarkhorse> dabaR: clean up after yourself, please
[02:32] <crimsun> kairu0: keep in mind there's $LOCALE, too
[02:32] <pr0tocol> anyone?
[02:32] <tarawsa33> hey all! Need help getting to understand mounting usb device. It wont show as /dev/sd*
[02:33] <crimsun> pr0tocol: seeing how I don't have one, no.
[02:33] <ubuntu> can ubuntu be installed on a dual boot system (windows, Linspire)
[02:33] <crimsun> pr0tocol: does it not work with l-r-m in Breezy?
[02:33] <kairu0> my LANG is "es_ES.UTF-8:en_US.UTF-8" is this legal?
[02:33] <dabaR> tarawsa33: do you run gnome? you know what gnome-volume-manager is?
[02:33] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: it was also nearly impossible to find win32 drivers for it....
[02:33] <pr0tocol> crimsun: l-r-m?
[02:33] <crimsun> pr0tocol: linux-restricted-modules
[02:33] <pr0tocol> crimsun: I just did an upgrade...yup
[02:33] <crimsun> pr0tocol: so it _does_ or _doesn't_ work?
[02:34] <pr0tocol> crimsun: I get the nvidia logo, but then it crashes... *sigh* same problem for the past week
[02:34] <pr0tocol> crimsun: doesn't give me an actual error...
[02:34] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: what about the sigmatel... it a creative soundblaster live card... would it work u think?
[02:34] <crimsun> pr0tocol: ask in #nvidia
[02:34] <kairu0> crimsun, where can i read about the locale variables?
[02:34] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: it will
[02:35] <crimsun> kairu0: search google
[02:35] <crimsun> kairu0: you should pick one
[02:35] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: well it shouldn
[02:35] <pr0tocol> how the heck do you scroll channels in irssi?
[02:35] <MrMaDSeN> argh
[02:35] <dabaR> pr0tocol: pgup
[02:35] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: well it shouldn't work now?
[02:35] <cusco> hi!
[02:35] <pr0tocol> dabaR: no I mean to different channels
[02:35] <dabaR> to switch betweeen chans, alt+chanNm
[02:35] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: the sblive will work. The intel hda probably won't.
[02:35] <cusco> how do you sycnronize with a nokai 6630 ?
[02:35] <cusco> nokia
[02:36] <pr0tocol> thanks
[02:36] <dabaR> pr0tocol: $10
[02:37] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: hehe.. ok... have no idea what I should do to get it work either
[02:37] <dabaR> come back ubuntu
[02:37] <dabaR> later
[02:37] <test34> How can I enable remote desktop remotely from ssh ?
[02:37] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: I recommend you try breezy preview
[02:37] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: it's easier to select the sblive as your default sound card there
[02:38] <astronut> robotgeek_away: how bad are the dependencies?
[02:38] <xTina> test34: Remote desktop ... as in ...? X11-Forwarding? XDMCP? VNC?
[02:38] <pr0tocol> well guys..
[02:38] <pr0tocol> no help in #nvidia
[02:39] <johndarkhorse> test34: ask uncle google "vnc over ssh'
[02:39] <test34> xtina: vnc
[02:40] <pr0tocol> anyone here using an FX5200 that got it to work in Breezy?
[02:40] <test34> johndarkhorse, I dont want to use vnc over ssh, I just want to enable it on the remote computer, and than vnc normally
[02:42] <test34> because I don't want to leave the vnc server running all the time
[02:42] <crimsun> pr0tocol: cat /proc/driver/nvidia/agp/status
[02:42] <crimsun> pr0tocol: paste onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:43] <pr0tocol> crimsun: nothing shows up :P
[02:44] <crimsun> pr0tocol: lsmod|grep ^nvidia
[02:44] <alfmatos> anyone with experience on setting up a ubuntu guest for UML ?
[02:44] <robotgeek> astronut: dependencies for whtat?
[02:45] <pr0tocol> crimsun: here is the output
[02:45] <astronut> robotgeek: wordpress, got it though, thanks
[02:45] <pr0tocol> nvidia               3711364  0
[02:45] <robotgeek> astronut: oh okay, was away
[02:45] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: theres an option to choose your soundcard in breezy?
[02:45] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: yes, System> Preferences> Sound
[02:46] <pr0tocol> crimsun: got it? ;)
[02:46] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: you can do it in Breezy, too, but it's much less intuitive (you have to do a bunch of things from the command line)
[02:46] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: ok... dl'ing the iso now
[02:46] <crimsun> MrMaDSeN: I meant you can do it in Hoary, too...
[02:46] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: I have that exact card, but I am still on Hoary. I refuse to try an upgrade before it is a public release - Everytime I do, there is major breakage...
[02:46] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: hehe.. I got that
[02:47] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: first time it happens to me. I was able to fix the problem before
[02:47] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: but from what I see I don't think the card/driver is being used
[02:47] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: did you edit xorg.conf?
[02:47] <cusco> anyone connecting a nokia trough a usb cable?
[02:47] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: lol only about a dozen times, removing, adding modules and etc
[02:48] <getVOIPfromME> cusco: no, but my Treo is connecting nicely! =)
[02:48] <pr0tocol> oolon: good job ;)
[02:48] <pr0tocol> crimsun: so any ideas?
[02:48] <oolon> :D
[02:48] <cusco> getVOIPfromME: what do you use?
[02:48] <cusco> ttrough usb or bluethooth getVOIPfromME ?
[02:49] <getVOIPfromME> cusco: USB
[02:49] <_rb_> whats a good channel to ask questions about .cue files ?
[02:49] <pr0tocol> _rb_: whats the question?
[02:49] <MrMaDSeN> any idea when Breezy is a official release?
[02:50] <cusco> getVOIPfromME: what app did u install?
[02:50] <pr0tocol> _rb_: and the answer is: any channel that deal with burning apps or so
[02:50] <MrMaDSeN> will be... even
[02:50] <_rb_> well, i've got 4 bin files and only one cue file. I wanna know if i can change the cue file and save it for the other bins
[02:50] <pr0tocol> _rb_: yup
[02:50] <robotgeek> dabaR: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2282
[02:50] <getVOIPfromME> cusco: j-pilot - but its only for Palm devices
[02:50] <jorgp2> having a hoary system, is there a way to have apt-get only download what packages it would take to upgrade to breezy?
[02:50] <cusco> oh
[02:50] <pr0tocol> _rb_: you're going to have to edit the cue file, though, and replace it everytime with the name of the .bin
[02:50] <_rb_> so its just text ?
[02:51] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: installed restricted-modules package?
[02:51] <cusco> jorgp2: upgrade your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[02:51] <pr0tocol> jorgp2: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace anything 'hoary' with 'breezy'
[02:51] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: lol yea, bro.  still nothing. I mean, I get to see the nvidia logo briefly until it dies on me and goes back into console
[02:51] <crimsun> pr0tocol: I've stopped troubleshooting Nvidia hardware & software since I stopped using their hardware
[02:52] <jorgp2> I dont want to install it, just download the packages
[02:52] <pr0tocol> crimsun: ati? matrox?
[02:52] <crimsun> onboard Intel
[02:52] <robotgeek> pr0tocol: definetly not ati
[02:52] <pr0tocol> jorgp2: then you're going to have to add breezy repos
[02:52] <pr0tocol> robotgeek: so you popped out of the dark ;)
[02:52] <jorgp2> ok, got it
[02:52] <robotgeek> pr0tocol: :)
[02:52] <pr0tocol> robotgeek: can you believe I still have the SAME problem?
[02:52] <nitinshantharam> guys, if i have a simple setup so my unix user accounts can recieve mail (postfix) how can i make it so that that unix account at all my domains will recieve it ie: nitin@domain1.com and nitin@domain2.com and nitin@localhost are the same?
[02:53] <pr0tocol> this is not only embarrassing, but makes me look/feel like a noob
[02:53] <robotgeek> pr0tocol: 5 days,
[02:53] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: like I said before anout pre-releases....
[02:53] <pr0tocol> robotgeek: more or less
[02:53] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: yea i know
[02:53] <getVOIPfromME> *about
[02:53] <robotgeek> pr0tocol: don't worry, once it comes to you, you'll be wiser!
[02:53] <getVOIPfromME> =)
[02:53] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: but I've done it before...and fixed the problems I had with no problems. The problme is, and I can guarantee it, is xorg
[02:54] <pr0tocol> problem*
[02:54] <robotgeek> pr0tocol: u already filed a bug on bugzilla, din't you?
[02:54] <pr0tocol> if it's giving me a "Caught signal 11" error, it is because of a program segmentation fault
[02:54] <pr0tocol> robotgeek: yessir
[02:55] <pr0tocol> robotgeek: as well as a handfull of others
[02:55] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: I could send you my xorg.conf, but its muddled with my Wacom drawing tablet config....
[02:55] <pr0tocol> lol
[02:55] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: what card are you using?
[02:55] <getVOIPfromME> FX5200
[02:55] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: just tell me which modules you have enabled
[02:56] <cycom> anyone had an odd problem where when ubuntu gets to the login screen, they here the normal drum sound once, then an 'echo' of it, and then no sound again?
[02:57] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: so you're a gimp-er/photoshop-er?
[02:57] <pr0tocol> cycom: what sound card?
[02:58] <cycom> pr0tocol: intel 82801
[02:58] <reiki> what can I expect if I just plug in my Kodak digital camera into the usb?
[02:58] <cycom> pr0tocol: (ac97)
[02:58] <pr0tocol> cycom: did you adjust the volume?
[02:58] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: Gimp - why?
[02:58] <cycom> pr0tocol: yeah
[02:58] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: you any good?
[02:58] <pr0tocol> cycom: and still no sound?
[02:58] <pr0tocol> cycom: make sure that the volume isn't muted
[02:58] <robotgeek> reiki: it should just work, and photo importer should import photos automagically
[02:59] <cycom> pr0tocol: I said I adjusted it.
[02:59] <reiki> robotgeek: that would just be too easy :)  thanks!
[02:59] <cycom> pr0tocol: It's not muted
[02:59] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: I think so, but usualy my Blender / Wings 3d work needs very little post-prod
[02:59] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: I have some drawings I'm doing (1 I finished) on www.myspace.com/yaris that I'm looking for someone to color in for me
[02:59] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: Yafray is amazing
[02:59] <cycom> pr0tocol: since it made noise, twice, when it should have only once, and then stopped working
[02:59] <reiki> robotgeek, it doesn't remove them from the camera when it imports them does it?
[02:59] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: Might be a job for inkscape
[02:59] <robotgeek> reiki: i don't think so
[02:59] <pr0tocol> cycom: what sound server? ALSA or OSS?
[03:00] <reiki> robotgeek, ok thanks
[03:00] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: either or
[03:00] <cycom> pr0tocol: alsa
[03:00] <robotgeek> reiki: i only did it once, and it worked very well on my friends camera
[03:00] <pr0tocol> damn I hate alsa
[03:00] <cycom> pr0tocol: it worked ONE time, but I'm not sure why
[03:00] <pr0tocol> cycom: tried alsa-config?
[03:00] <reiki> robotgeek, ok... I'll give it a go
[03:00] <cycom> pr0tocol: hang on
[03:00] <crimsun> Ubuntu doesn't ship alsaconf
[03:00] <cycom> crimsun: exactly
[03:00] <pr0tocol> oh well
[03:00] <pr0tocol> thats retarted
[03:00] <crimsun> the rationale is in the alsa-utils changelog
[03:01] <getVOIPfromME> Pr0tocol: I dont see the drawing
[03:01] <nitinshantharam> guys, if i have a simple setup so my unix user accounts can recieve mail (postfix) how can i make it so that that unix account at all my domains will recieve it ie: nitin@domain1.com and nitin@domain2.com and nitin@localhost are the same?
[03:02] <ubuntu_novice> hello
[03:02] <pr0tocol> getVOIPfromME: you have to click my images
[03:02] <ubuntu_novice> hello guys
[03:02] <pr0tocol> see me looking serious? click on that pic...you'll get more
[03:02] <robotgeek> ubuntu_novice: we heard you the first time, hi
[03:02] <ubuntu_novice> hi robotgeek
[03:02] <ubuntu_novice> i havea uestion
[03:03] <apokryphos> ubuntu_novice: shoot
[03:03] <ubuntu_novice> how am i going to share floppy drives
[03:03] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: sup >:)
[03:03] <reiki> robotgeek: amazing... not only discovered the camera and opened photo importer, but also correctly identified the camera and it does have a checkbox to remove them from the camera after importing. Absolutely brilliant.
[03:04] <robotgeek> reiki: :)
[03:04] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: Hi; nuthin' much really
[03:04] <johndarkhorse> reiki: whats that?
[03:04] <robotgeek> johndarkhorse: his camera was detected by ubuntu, and it imported the photos correctly in a fantastic manner :)
[03:04] <ubuntu_novice> anyone?... thatsmy big problem
[03:04] <reiki> johndarkhorse, I just plugged in my digital camera into usb for the first time in Ubuntu. And was very pleasantly surprised
[03:04] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: heh, same here
[03:05] <Vespoli> how can I update my packages !!! I keep being asked for a root password which I cannot properly do!!!
[03:05] <reiki> robotgeek, do we have to dismount the camera somehow? Or just unplug it when we're done?
[03:05] <Vespoli> I enabled root and stuff and it _still_ fails
[03:05] <Vespoli> omfg
[03:05] <apokryphos> Vespoli: you're not asked for root password ever
[03:05] <robotgeek> !tell Vespoli about root
[03:05] <Vespoli> robotgeek, I know about root stuff
[03:05] <ssdd65> how do i load the lm_sensors module?
[03:05] <apokryphos> Vespoli: evidently not
[03:05] <Vespoli> :-/ ok
[03:05] <Vespoli> ssdd65, insmod lm_sensors
[03:06] <apokryphos> Vespoli: Ubuntu doesn't use root, it uses sudo.
[03:06] <ubuntu_novice> I installed ubuntu in a network how am i ganna share floppy drives and hard drives?
[03:06] <apokryphos> Vespoli: and the sudo pass is *your* pass
[03:06] <robotgeek> reiki: try to unmount it, and then unplug. i am pretty sure that it mounts it as a usb disk :)
[03:06] <Vespoli> oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh
[03:06] <Vespoli> :x
[03:06] <ubuntu_novice> help help help
[03:06] <ssdd65> insmod lm_sensors
[03:06] <apokryphos> ubuntu_novice: please don't spam/flood; if someone can answer they will try to.
[03:06] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: lol I have the same problem, as I was telling robotgeek...and I JUST did another apt-get upgrade
[03:07] <pr0tocol> lmao
[03:07] <robotgeek> ssdd65: or sudo modprobe lm_sensors
[03:07] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: those X problems?
[03:07] <ssdd65> tried that....
[03:07] <ubuntu_novice> sorry apocrypos
[03:07] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: oh yea
[03:07] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: weird. X is pretty much fine for almost everyone now. You said you tried purging down to ubuntu-base, eh?
[03:07] <apokryphos> ubuntu_novice: that's alright
[03:08] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: when I do startx, get something about "xauth: error in locking authority file /home/protocol/.Xauthority"
[03:08] <Vespoli> hmm why is the package update utility not responding to my clicks on it >:O
[03:08] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: this can be done with samba or nfs. samba can also share drives/folders with computers running windows
[03:08] <Vespoli> its not opening anything
[03:08] <reiki> robotgeek: I can't see it mounted in /media ... hmmmmm
[03:08] <Vespoli> even though it *should* work
[03:08] <Vespoli> :-/
[03:08] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: have you Googled? I've heard of that a few times in the past; can't remember the fix
[03:08] <ubuntu_novice> sorry about that... because im in a panic sitution ryt now, my boss is keep bugging me on this
[03:08] <z|bandito> just do sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:08] <z|bandito> from the terminal Vespoli
[03:08] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: you think that the nvidia binary glx and the nvidia Ubuntu package could be conflicting?
[03:09] <ubuntu_novice> samba?
[03:09] <Vespoli> z|bandito, command ?
[03:09] <toran> is there a way to completely set my alsa mixer settings back to the ubuntu default?
[03:09] <z|bandito> if it won't work, that will do it
[03:09] <z|bandito> sudo apt-get upgrade
[03:09] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: you installed both?
[03:09] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: like a moron, yes
[03:09] <toran> I've kinda messed them up, and I can't record sound (like with a mic) anymore
[03:09] <z|bandito> or really, sudo apt-get update
[03:09] <Vespoli> :D
[03:09] <Vespoli> k
[03:09] <ubuntu_novice> samba? is it another version of linux?
[03:09] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: LMAO
[03:09] <z|bandito> then sudo apt-get uprgrade
[03:09] <FR500> hello
[03:09] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: yes. look in synaptic if yoiu have already installed it, if not, go and install it
[03:09] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: I doubt it, actually. Is there a list of packs the binary glx brings in?
[03:09] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: no, samba is no other linux version
[03:10] <apokryphos> hi FR500
[03:10] <z|bandito> update updates the package list, upgrade actually changes the packages themselves
[03:10] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: not that i'm aware of, no
[03:10] <z|bandito> when they are installed
[03:10] <z|bandito> if that makes sense
[03:10] <FR500> installing a driver for my webcam, dpkg throws me errors about modules.alias, what can i do
[03:10] <z|bandito> afaik
[03:10] <ubuntu_novice> sorry abt this...but where is that synaptic?
[03:10] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: it's a program for linux :)
[03:10] <z|bandito> ymmv
[03:10] <z|bandito> ..fwiw
[03:10] <z|bandito> =p
[03:10] <ubuntu_novice> ahh ok
[03:11] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: did the binary glx install correctly, or not?
[03:11] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: yea it did
[03:11] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: so why the ubu pack as well? ;-)
[03:11] <nathanel> system/system settings/synapti package manager
[03:11] <z|bandito> samba is to network to windows fileshares
[03:11] <ubuntu_novice> how am i going to locate that?
[03:11] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: anyhow, I reckon you could use a debfoster, or...
[03:11] <apokryphos> d'oh, I forget the name. One sec.
[03:11] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: when I did the upgrade again it installed it...not only that, the nvidia binary wasn't working either
[03:12] <pr0tocol> lol
[03:12] <apokryphos> hm, annoying.
[03:12] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: system/system settings/synaptic package manager on the top of the screen?
[03:12] <ubuntu_novice> is SYNAPTIC under applications? places?  or what?
[03:13] <Snoblower> can someone help me? i just finished downloading the live CD and i'm not exactly sure what i'm doing..
[03:13] <z|bandito> yakyak is sure slow atm
[03:13] <z|bandito> oops
[03:13] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: actually, you can use debfoster for it. If you don't mind removing things down, I'd say use it with conjugation of ubuntu-desktop (or ubuntu-base if you don't care about reinstalling it)
[03:13] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: asked any other pros on here? No luck? I'm far from one ;-)
[03:14] <Flying_Eagle> Snoblower, we do neither ;)
[03:14] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: open a terminal window and enter: sudo synaptic
[03:14] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: NOTHING! heh. even went to #nividia and they didn't know
[03:14] <pr0tocol> what do you mean re-installing?
[03:14] <Snoblower> can anyone help?
[03:14] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: if I were you, I'd go debfoster way probably.
[03:15] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: if you go down to ubuntu-base, you'll need to reinstall ubuntu-desktop and its dependencies eventually
[03:15] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: got it?
[03:15] <ubuntu_novice> not yet
[03:15] <astronut> i can't get wordpress to work
[03:15] <astronut> either version
[03:15] <ubuntu_novice> terminal window?
[03:15] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: so all my lifes work gone...
[03:15] <astronut> it won't connect to the sql server
[03:15] <ubuntu_novice> where is that?
[03:15] <Ehrys> Hello, I have a problem with the installation. When it does the apt configuration during the installation, it hangs while testing the network repository. I have tried waiting 20 minutes, changing both network cable and card. I have changed hub and router also providing the same results. Is there any way that I can get it to either work, or skip that part
[03:15] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: well, it would only remove packages (applications), that is
[03:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i find the device node for a usb drive i've plugged in that shows up in lsusb?
[03:16] <nathanel> right click somwhere on the desktop and the select open terminal
[03:16] <FR500> installing a driver for my webcam, dpkg throws me errors about overwriting modules.alias, what can i do?
[03:16] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: and re-install ubuntu from scratch without removing /home?
[03:16] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: right click somewhere on the desktop and then select open terminal
[03:16] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: you'd do another sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, yes
[03:17] <Snoblower> alrighty, i just finished downloading the live CD and when i click open it says, "Windows cannot open this file" can i get some help? :(
[03:17] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: the issues that would stop you doing it: (i) low bandwidth/slow comp; (ii) applications you wouldn't want/would be hard to, reinstall
[03:17] <Ehrys> Snoblower: It's an ISO you have to right it to a CD and boot from it
[03:17] <unk0wn2u> Snoblower, are you insane?
[03:17] <FR500> when i write lsusb with my devices connected, i get nothing
[03:17] <FR500> no output at all
[03:17] <FR500> what to do?
[03:17] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: ok, and how do I go about doing this? (sorry not too much of a deb/ubuntu user.  was using arch and slack before)
[03:18] <Snoblower> unk0wn2u, not insane, just not computer-literate
[03:18] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: debfoster --help  :P
[03:18] <pr0tocol> lol
[03:18] <pr0tocol> that'll do it
[03:18] <edgarin> Hi
[03:18] <ubuntu_novice> nathanel: I cant get any "OPEN TERMINAL",what can I see is "CReate flder",Create launcher,Etc.
[03:18] <edgarin> I have problems with installation of Ubuntu in a machine old the bios not contain a boot from cdrom
[03:18] <marcin_ant> hi all
[03:18] <unk0wn2u> FR500, do you have a /proc/usb dir?
[03:18] <edgarin> howto create a floppy to boot from cdrom
[03:18] <xTina> ubuntu_novice: using breezy?
[03:19] <FR500> unk0wn2u: yes but it's empty
[03:19] <FR500> it used to work before
[03:19] <marcin_ant> could someone tell me how can I remove some file owned by root from my user account using nautilus?
[03:19] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: so I'm getting the feeling I'll also have to rename 'breezy' back to 'hoary' in the source.list file, right?
[03:19] <unk0wn2u> FR500, did you rebuild a kernel?
[03:19] <FR500> nope
[03:19] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: you want to downgrade to hoary?
[03:19] <pr0tocol> apokryphos: hell yea
[03:20] <ubuntu_novice> xTina: what is breezy?
[03:20] <xTina> ubuntu_novice: a version of ubuntu
[03:20] <xTina> ubuntu_novice: you most likely either have hoary or breezy
[03:20] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: you can do that differently, then. Just change the apt_preferences with a hoary priority field
[03:20] <pr0tocol> ubuntu_novice: new unstable release of Ubuntu. 1) Warty 2)Hoary (current) 3) Breezy (preview release)
[03:20] <mik3> what's the apt-get install name for Qt libs? i need to install it
[03:20] <Ehrys> Snoblower: I can't PM you because I'm not registered
[03:20] <Snoblower> oh
[03:20] <apokryphos> pr0tocol: not entirely sure how to do it, but it should be easy to find out if you do a lil' research methinks
[03:20] <ubuntu_novice> ahhok
[03:21] <xTina> ubuntu_novice: if you can't find "open terminal" you're very likely to have breezy (or should think about getting glasses *g*)
[03:21] <ubuntu_novice> im using hoary
[03:21] <Ehrys> Snoblower: You have to write the image to a CDROM using Nero or some program. Then boot from the CDROM
[03:21] <Snoblower> ok...
[03:21] <xTina> ubuntu_novice: Then you either lost your terminal menu entry by some unfortunate accident or should get glasses ;)
[03:21] <xTina> ubuntu_novice: anyway, a Terminal can also be found somewhere buried in the menu on top of your screen
[03:22] <ubuntu_novice> no i cant really see anything
[03:22] <z|bandito> upper left menu
[03:22] <ubuntu_novice> sorry... but i tried andtriedand tried
[03:23] <xTina> ubuntu_novice: Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal?
[03:23] <johndarkhorse> marcin_ant: starting nautilus as root is a bad idea. it screws up your userspace
[03:23] <ubuntu_novice> ahhhh
[03:23] <unk0wn2u> alt f2 type gnome-terminal
[03:23] <ubuntu_novice> ok
[03:23] <Ehrys> Hello, I have a problem with the installation. When it does the apt configuration during the installation, it hangs while testing the network repository. I have tried waiting 20 minutes, changing both network cable and card. I have changed hub and router also providing the same results. Is there any way that I can get it to either work, or skip that part. Please?
[03:23] <ubuntu_novice> thats is
[03:23] <ubuntu_novice> THANK YOU very much
[03:23] <ubuntu_novice> I love yu
[03:23] <KanRiNiN> hi
[03:23] <marcin_ant> johndarkhorse, I don't want to start nautilus as root
[03:24] <apokryphos> Hello
[03:24] <KanRiNiN> anyone ever hear of a gtk-critical error when starting totem?
[03:24] <apokryphos> KanRiNiN: if you pastebin the full error it's more likely that someone'll help
[03:24] <MrMaDSeN> yes.. get rid of it... and use vlc
[03:24] <marcin_ant> johndarkhorse, I just want to remove some file owned by root - propably this feature is still ignored by nautilus users
[03:24] <KanRiNiN> apokryphos, tell me...enlighten me...about pastebin?
[03:25] <marcin_ant> johndarkhorse, s/users/developers
[03:25] <xTina> marcin_ant: why don't you just use a Terminal?
[03:25] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: do you have synaptic open?
[03:26] <marcin_ant> xTina, I use but I define myself as so called 'power user'
[03:26] <mik3> can i install kde headers on this system?
[03:26] <KanRiNiN> pastebin http://pastebin.com/366765
[03:26] <KanRiNiN> gtk-critical error
[03:26] <Nexinarus> anyone know if GLaux works in ubuntu linux?
[03:27] <apokryphos> mik3: of course
[03:27] <DewDude> dude, you can do pretty much anything on ubuntu
[03:27] <marcin_ant> xTina, anyway I thought that there is some way to remove file from nautilus using some gtksudo or ssh thing...
[03:27] <DewDude> it keeps getting better
[03:27] <Ehrys> Except install it ^.^
[03:27] <marcin_ant> xTina, I need to test ssh maybe
[03:27] <durt> whats the difference between  the printing commands "lpr" and "lp"?
[03:27] <BROKEN_LADDER> how can i mount a usb device that i can see in lsusb?
[03:27] <xTina> marcin_ant: ssh?!?!?
[03:28] <KanRiNiN> did I get that right apokryphos
[03:28] <mik3> apokryphos : how?
[03:28] <Ehrys> What are the domain names/IP Addresses of the update repositories?
[03:28] <apokryphos> mik3: sudo apt-get install kde-devel
[03:28] <JDahl> will it be easier/possible in Breezy to watch video streams in Mozilla FF?
[03:28] <unk0wn2u> marcin_ant, sudo nautilus
[03:28] <apokryphos> KanRiNiN: that's correct
[03:28] <ubuntu_> can ubuntu be installed from the livecd?
[03:28] <apokryphos> ubuntu_: unfortunately not, nope.
[03:28] <mik3> is kdebase-dev the same?
[03:28] <apokryphos> mik3: no
[03:29] <mik3> eek
[03:29] <marcin_ant> xTina, heh it works - ctrl+l ssh://localhost
[03:29] <ubuntu_> apokryphos, god damnit
[03:29] <RRubin> my xchat seems to be using ctrl-u for the search function, even though its not bound in the prefs
[03:29] <apokryphos> mik3: kde-devel brings in kdebase-dev though, probably
[03:29] <xTina> marcin_ant: and this is helping exactly how?
[03:29] <RRubin> i use devorac, so the u key is labled f
[03:29] <apokryphos> mik3: and yes, indeed it does.
[03:29] <marcin_ant> xTina, heh not yet
[03:29] <mik3> oh ok
[03:29] <Snoblower> ok, so i burned the ISO to the cd, now what? :( yes, i'm that dumb
[03:29] <marcin_ant> xTina, still cannot remove this file....
[03:29] <Ehrys> Reboot
[03:30] <marcin_ant> xTina, propably I need to ssh as root
[03:30] <Snoblower> reboot computer?
[03:30] <mik3> i've installed so much arbitrary crab just to get a MUD client to work properly, can't get anything to do what i want =/
[03:30] <Ehrys> with the disk in
[03:30] <mik3> s/crab/crap
[03:30] <xTina> marcin_ant: why the hell would you want to do that?!?
[03:30] <unk0wn2u> marcin_ant, sudo nautilus
[03:30] <Snoblower> er.. ok
[03:30] <xTina> marcin_ant: log in remotely just to become root?
[03:30] <marcin_ant> unk0wn2u, it is not good solution for me
[03:30] <apokryphos> mik3: no real idea what that is, I'm afraid. But if it depends on kde headers you want the kde-devel pack
[03:30] <nathanel> durt: one comes from BSD and the other from system V (IIRC). they have different option syntax, but both are provided by cups.
[03:30] <marcin_ant> unk0wn2u, because I still need to run terminal to sudo nautilus
[03:30] <unk0wn2u> alt f2
[03:31] <marcin_ant> xTina, know better way?
[03:31] <xTina> marcin_ant: yes, use a terminal
[03:31] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice: still there?
[03:31] <durt> ok nathanel
[03:32] <marcin_ant> xTina, I can but my customers dont
[03:33] <xTina> marcin_ant: but is it really a good idea if your customers can manipulate files that belong to root if they can't be bothered to learn how to remove files through the terminal?
[03:33] <user_> sorry about that
[03:33] <unk0wn2u> alt f2 gnome-sudo gnome-terminal
[03:33] <marcin_ant> xTina, I don't agree
[03:33] <unk0wn2u> alt f2 gnome-sudo gnome-terminal
[03:33] <xTina> marcin_ant: In OS X, the feature you want is present. And the world would be a lot better if it weren't there.
[03:33] <durt> my problem is that when i try to print a .ps file theres about an extra inch margin at the top, but evince and ggv dont show it. i everything set to "letter." Any ideas?
[03:34] <marcin_ant> xTina, for example they can manage packages with synaptic - as super users
[03:34] <marcin_ant> xTina, and they don't need to use terminal to do this
[03:34] <RiNiN> http://pastebin.com/366765
[03:34] <marcin_ant> xTina, why should they to remove some file owned by someone else - if they know password?
[03:34] <Denjira> hey I ordered Ubuntu discs a few weeks ago, will they still be sent?
[03:34] <RiNiN> could use some help
[03:34] <DewDude> question: if i'm not using kdm, can i deactivate it from services?
[03:35] <xTina> marcin_ant: I meant more in terms of destroying their system.
[03:35] <johndarkhorse> marcin_ant: i know you dont, i was just remarking that nautilus is bad about changing user permissions when started as root
[03:35] <unk0wn2u> marcin_ant, using terminal is usually alot faster when you know what your doing
[03:35] <Denjira> hey I ordered Ubuntu discs a few weeks ago, will they still be sent?
[03:35] <johndarkhorse> marcin_ant: i recommend using the terminal to rid yourself of unwanted files (make sure they're not important)
[03:35] <xTina> anyway, I'm off to bed
[03:36] <DewDude> yeah, dude...learn the terminal
[03:36] <marcin_ant> unk0wn2u, do I really need to tell this again? personally I'm terminal, emacs, ion3 user
[03:36] <pr0tocol> well, atleast I got SOME X
[03:36] <unk0wn2u> emacs thats funny
[03:36] <DewDude> once i learned console stuff...linux started making more sense
[03:36] <pr0tocol> It's sad that I have to use Knoppix lmao
[03:36] <marcin_ant> unk0wn2u, I don't need to learn this - in fact I use this ugly thing called nautilus only if I need to learn some newbies how to use gnome
[03:37] <johndarkhorse> marcin_ant: there is no way to use nautilus to rid your self of root owned files
[03:37] <Snoblower> er...
[03:37] <tga> three cheers for ion3
[03:37] <cusco> hi
[03:38] <cusco> for almost every media I play on mplayer
[03:38] <cusco> it says:
[03:38] <cusco> alsa-space: xrun of at least 0.009 msecs. resetting stream
[03:38] <cusco> alsa-space: xrun of at least 0.009 msecs. resetting stream
[03:38] <john_> hello.  Is anyone running RAID1 under ubuntu?
[03:38] <apokryphos> cusco: please don't paste in here.
[03:38] <cusco> and keeps repiting this line over and over again
[03:38] <cusco> apokryphos: sory
[03:38] <tga> cusco, try mplayer -ao oss
[03:38] <cusco> and each line is a hip on the sound
[03:38] <Denjira> hey I ordered Ubuntu discs a few weeks ago, will they still be sent?
[03:39] <Snoblower> ok, i downloaded the live CD, burned it to a disk and restarted my comp, now what do i do? :(
[03:39] <tga> cusco, or mplayer -ao esd
[03:39] <test34> if I install debian's firefox 1.5 beta1 package with dpkg, will it uninstall firefox1.06 or just leave it there ?
[03:39] <cusco> tga: works perfec with oss
[03:39] <tga> cusco, here you have it then
[03:39] <cusco> esd too
[03:39] <john_> denjira: yeah.  took about 8 weeks to arrive in australia.
[03:39] <unk0wn2u> Snoblower, are you insane?
[03:39] <tga> cusco, put it in ~/.mplayer/config
[03:39] <cusco> ok
[03:39] <Snoblower> unk0wn2u, yes
[03:39] <apokryphos> test34: probably overwrite, but you generally shouldn't install debian packages
[03:39] <marcin_ant> johndarkhorse, and it really sucks
[03:39] <Denjira> Shipit says they aren't shipping for now
[03:40] <nathanel> durt: did you try the cups interface on localhost:631 already?
[03:40] <apokryphos> test34: no real point especially since there's a ready-made Firefox beta from their site.
[03:40] <unk0wn2u> Snoblower, it has to boot from the cd ie setup your bios
[03:40] <Snoblower> how do i do that?
[03:40] <unk0wn2u> Snoblower, how the hell should i know ?
[03:40] <Snoblower> ...
[03:40] <test34> apokryphos, the firefox from mozilla will not overwrite ?
[03:40] <Snoblower> does anybody know what i'm doing?
[03:41] <Clujo> when computer is booting, press f1 to  change boot options like booting from cd
[03:41] <unk0wn2u> Snoblower, hit del or f1 or whatever when your computer boots and go to advanced features
[03:41] <cusco> tga: I have seen the ~/.mplayer/config before with more options.. should I add those? I just don't remember where
[03:41] <apokryphos> test34: well, it doesn't install anything does it? Runs straight from the directory IIRC
[03:41] <cusco> I know it was ubuntu related
[03:41] <dbl> hello gud day
[03:41] <johndarkhorse> marcin_ant: what sucks is that nautilus cant behave when given root powers
[03:41] <Snoblower> unk0wn2u, then what do i do?
[03:42] <test34> apokryphos, ok I didnt know it didnt install it
[03:42] <john_> no idea what you're doing snowman
[03:42] <unk0wn2u> Snoblower, change first boot drive to cdrom
[03:42] <dbl> someone here know how to share my printer into a other pc ?
[03:42] <tga> cusco, only add the options you need to use every time, like vo=oss
[03:42] <apokryphos> test34: it's noticeably faster, but looks exactly the same.
[03:42] <marcin_ant> johndarkhorse, heh... there is already bug in bugzilla related with this problem
[03:42] <tga> cusco, or you can sudo edit /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[03:42] <apokryphos> test34: still not good enough for me to use it as default though ;-)
[03:42] <john_> now, back to me...   Does anyone run a RAID array?
[03:42] <marcin_ant> johndarkhorse, #65058 - 4 years old
[03:43] <unk0wn2u> dbl /etc/cups/cups.conf would be a good start
[03:43] <test34> test34, yeah I tried it on windows
[03:43] <apokryphos> test34: talking to yourself? ;-)
[03:43] <samir> hi all i am new to linux and i choosed ubuntu as a distribution but i dont know what to specify an internet mirror for the packages.. is it a debian mirror??
[03:43] <dbl> unkown2u how to use that command ?
[03:43] <johndarkhorse> apokryphos: you do it too
[03:44] <test34> apokryphos, oops;)
[03:44] <john_> :-).  Nah not windows
[03:44] <johndarkhorse> samir: using debian mirrors can break your ubuntu
[03:44] <johndarkhorse> !tell samir about sources
[03:45] <nathanel> dbl: that's not a command, that's the configuration file for the printing system
[03:45] <Prodegy> Hello
[03:45] -depende:#ubuntu- to goin is #debianeros ;)
[03:45] <samir> what can i use as internet mirrors????
[03:45] <dbl> ok
[03:45] <dbl> let me see here
[03:45] <apokryphos> johndarkhorse: never!
[03:45] <john_> samir: just use the ones provieded in synaptic.
[03:46] <samir> ok thanks
[03:46] <Snoblower> ARG!
[03:46] <dbl> u i use that to one computer to access here ?
[03:46] <Snoblower> F1 and Del didn't work...
[03:46] <dbl> i use that in one computer to access at my server ?
[03:46] <QMario> !Linksys
[03:46] <ubotu> QMario: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:46] <ubuntu_novice2> hello
[03:46] <QMario> !Router
[03:46] <ubotu> well, router is a device used to connect multiple copmputers online at the same time, or wirelessly. It would be a box in between your modem and computer if you go by the wires.
[03:46] <QMario> !VoIP
[03:47] <ubotu> QMario: No idea
[03:47] <ubuntu_novice2> what does SMB means?
[03:47] <QMario> !Modem
[03:47] <ubotu> QMario: Are you smoking crack?
[03:47] <anthony> hello
[03:47] <john_> samir: synaptic defaults to just the install cd.  wander around the preferences and you can turn on other repositores.  Universe has all the unofficial stuff
[03:47] <dbl>  /etc/cups/cups.conf would be a good start i ant find that here
[03:47] <QMario> Has anyone gotten a Linksys Wireless-G router to work? :-/
[03:47] <Prodegy> Yes
[03:47] <nathanel> dbl: you already have a server you want to connect to? or do you want to shre the printer attached to this computer?
[03:47] <QMario> Hello anthony and Seveas!!! :)
[03:47] <Prodegy> QMario: I am on that right now
[03:47] <john_> SMB = windows networking
[03:48] <Snoblower> is anybody willing to explain how to get this thing working in extreme detail?
[03:48] <QMario> How did you get it to work Prodegy?
[03:48] <dbl> i wang to share it, so that i can access here in server
[03:48] <anthony> Can any one tell me if this is JAVA in ubunta 5.o4?, please
[03:48] <dbl> nathanel i want to share it, so that i can access here in server
[03:49] <john_> anthony: I'd be extremely surprised if java didn't work.
[03:49] <nathanel> dbl: and the other computer is running linux too or windows?
[03:49] <dbl> linux
[03:49] <marcin_ant> johndarkhorse, holly crap it's so depressing - there is no support for sudo operations in nautlius although this feature was requested 4y ago and... there is still no support for search in yelp (I was trying to find how to use ssh in nautilus - using help subsystem) it really sucks..
[03:49] <dbl> all computer here is linux
[03:49] <anthony> ththanks john
[03:49] <ubuntu_novice2> nathanel: I got power interruption
[03:49] <dbl> i have 12 pc and it OS is linux
[03:49] <Snoblower> i'm very dumb, who will help me?
[03:50] <Kira> !pppoe
[03:50] <ubotu> Kira: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[03:50] <Prodegy> Snoblower: Dont ask who will help just ask your question.
[03:50] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice2: ok, you have synaptic running?
[03:50] <DewDude> oops
[03:50] <Kira> !PPPoE
[03:50] <ubotu> Kira: I give up, what is it?
[03:50] <Kira> !DSL
[03:50] <ubotu> methinks dsl is available in Ubuntu, often all that is needed to set it up is to run pppoeconf from a root terminal
[03:50] <ubuntu_novice2> not yet
[03:50] <DewDude> my ubuntu crashed my windows
[03:50] <ubuntu_novice2> i just click the update
[03:50] <Snoblower> ok, well i downloaded the live CD, burned it, and now i'm trying to figure out how i get it to run..
[03:51] <Snoblower> i restarted and pushed F1 and del, neither worked
[03:51] <john_> anthony: I haven't got it up myself (yet), but its just linux, and I know sun support java on linux
[03:51] <Prodegy> Use F2
[03:51] <nathanel> dbl: you need to edit that file as root and allow network access from the hosts in your network.
[03:51] <john_> So has anyone played with RAID on ubuntu?
[03:51] <Kira> The only thing that's stopping me from throwing Windoze out the window and installing Ubuntu on my laptop is the problem with PPPoE over wlan.
[03:51] <ubuntu_novice2> nathanel: but when I click the install it says... E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:52] <samir> thank you for your help it works
[03:52] <dbl> then could u tell me pls the idea on  how to edit it in root, what should i do to edit in root
[03:52] <anthony> cool thanks
[03:52] <john_> another happy customer
[03:52] <ubuntu_novice2> where can I run it manually?
[03:53] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice2: open a terminal then enter: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:53] <solee> anyone know how there is no dotty screen at the startup of X in Ubuntu?
[03:54] <dbl> nathanel can u give m an access to private you ?
[03:54] <getVOIPfromME> solee: yeah - its not using X
[03:54] <Quinthius> solee: you mean before it starts to load the window manager/desktop?
[03:54] <unk0wn2u> solee, yeah i noticed that too
[03:54] <Quinthius> getVOIPfromME: yes it is...
[03:54] <getVOIPfromME> solee: Its using Xorg
[03:55] <getVOIPfromME> solee: With Breezy, or Hoary?
[03:55] <solee> getVOIPfromME: ok.. I'll change my question; how do you do it in Xorg?
[03:55] <solee> it's Hoary
[03:55] <Quinthius> the server (or xinit or whatever) can take args to specify the root bg color instead of that ugly mesh crap
[03:55] <ubuntu_novice2> is the terminal like the command promptin Windows?
[03:55] <john_> Be really nice if someone here had set up RAID on ubuntu?  anyone ?
[03:55] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice2: somewhat, yes. but the commands are different :)
[03:55] <solee> Quinthius: yes, before loading them..
[03:55] <snowwoolf> I have
[03:56] <dbl> nathanel how to edit as a root pls
[03:56] <Prodegy> DBL
[03:56] <john_> snowwoolf has?
[03:56] <nathanel> dbl: ok, open a terminal windo
[03:56] <Prodegy> Go to your Log-In screen Setup
[03:56] <Quinthius> solee: are you asking so you can make startx do the same?
[03:56] <MrMaDSeN> damn.. xmms is missing the bookmark feature
[03:56] <dbl> k
[03:56] <ubuntu_novice2> yah... i noticed that
[03:56] <solee> Quinthius: oh...! I see..
[03:56] <snowwoolf> I have one computer in use running a RAID-1 on Ubuntu 5.0
[03:56] <Prodegy> Nathanel you do know that he doesnt have to edit in Terminal correct?
[03:56] <ubuntu_novice2> I really thank god for creating people like you
[03:57] <solee> Quinthius: no, i'm using an another linux distribution. and i would like to use it in that distro..
[03:57] <ubuntu_novice2> I reallY HATE bill gates
[03:57] <john_> excellent!  does it appear to the OS as a single drive, or two (which you then apply software to)?
[03:57] <dbl> nathanel its ok now i have open already
[03:57] <Quinthius> solee: ahhh, well i'm not sure how gdm loads it... but i'm sure it's in some config somewhere, wherever the core X server or xinit is initialized
[03:57] <apokryphos> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Bill_gates
[03:57] <snowwoolf> one drive.  if you are seeing more than one drive, are you running a hardware or software RAID?
[03:57] <MrMaDSeN> ubuntu_novice2: could say the same about crimsun .... helped me with some sound stuff....... and I am SOOOO happy now :))
[03:57] <kasper> can anyone tell me how to increase the audio buffer size
[03:58] <solee> Quinthius: aha. thank you very much. i'll try to find how to set the bgcolor instead of the scary dots!! :)
[03:58] <john_> hard to say.  I've got the VIA southbridge which has raid in the bios
[03:58] <ubuntu_novice2> Nathanel : You'regreat
[03:58] <dbl> nathanel what is the next should i do ?
[03:58] <Quinthius> solee: it wont be in a "config" file most likely... probably within one of the init scripts itself... whatever gdm invokes when it starts up X
[03:58] <ubuntu_novice2> Nathanel: You're great
[03:59] <nathanel> dbl: the format of this file is documented on http://localhost:631/sam.html
[03:59] <kasper> when I play mp3's it keeps skipping
[03:59] <john_> I fooled around with it one day and got it to appear as one disk, and though fantistic, went and bought another disk...  Now I can't get it to do it again
[03:59] <solee> Quinthius: alright...
[03:59] <dbl> i type that here in terminal ?
[03:59] <dbl> nathanel i type that here in terminal ?
[03:59] <kasper> can someone please help me
[04:00] <durt> nathanel: its a network printer (samba) and it prints most things right, except for these postscripts
[04:00] <snowwoolf> john_, a lot of motherboard RAIDs aren't hardware RAIDs.  They use their own proprietary format.  The BIOS in the computer uses the CPU to do RAID, and when Windows loads, it loads a driver than continues the illusion
[04:00] <fossa> hi
[04:00] <beti1> anyone from the philippines
[04:00] <beti3_> hello cute
[04:01] <cute> is any here from the mountain province
[04:01] <fossa> can someone help me set up internet on my new laptop?
[04:01] <beti3_> yeah im from d phil
[04:01] <win> hi! beti3
[04:01] <ubuntu_novice2> betil: Imfrom phil
[04:01] <ubuntu_novice2> baguio city
[04:01] <beti3_> hi win
[04:01] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice2: thx. so look if you have samba installed.
[04:01] <john_> snow: roger that.  as far as I can make out it is the psuedo (cheaparse) raid version, but that's fine, if it can create the illusion I'm happy to be deceived.
[04:01] <durt> there sure are a lot of philipinos here
[04:02] <beti3_> fksdaj;fjsda
[04:02] <Quinthius> solee: think i found it
[04:02] <kasper> hey anyone know how to get xmms to stop skipping while playing songs, especially when opening applications????????
[04:02] <nathanel> dbl: no. run sudo gedit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[04:02] <john_> you running a proper hardware raid? or a pseudo raid?
[04:02] <beti3_> filipinos are genius u know
[04:02] <beti3_> u know pacquiao
[04:02] <snowwoolf> john_, there's some information about it in the Ubuntu support forum.  You can probably set up an Ubuntu software RAID on the same drives without a problem, but to not take any chances, make sure you have all of your data backed up.  And if nothing else is on the computer, I suggest you turn off the motherboards RAID.  The software driver in Ubuntu is probably faster anyway.
[04:02] <solee> Quinthius: ...!!
[04:02] <Quinthius> solee: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf, scroll down to "Definition of the standard X server"...
[04:02] <dbl> nathanel ok
[04:02] <cute> filipinos are piraters
[04:02] <nathanel> dbl: and open http://localhost:631/sam.html in your web browser
[04:02] <ubuntu_novice2> cute: not really
[04:02] <jsubl2> kasper, if you look at the  preference for xmms you can increase the buffer size i think
[04:03] <solee> Quinthius: I'm there..!
[04:03] <ubuntu_novice2> cute: maybe were just trying to be practical
[04:03] <getVOIPfromME> kasper: have you tried another audio app? If so, does it do the same thing?
[04:03] <Leshrac> this may sound stupid but, how do I get the apt-get online function working?
[04:03] <john_> snow: thanks dude, its a fresh install so no probs there.  Are you running the software raid, or you got hardware to behave?
[04:03] <Quinthius> solee: i guess that's where you would change it on another distro
[04:03] <cute> kabayan
[04:03] <beti1> hi ubuntu_novice2
[04:03] <dbl> nathanel it shown here in terminal   bash: run: command not found
[04:04] <snowwoolf> john_, a RAID is  RAID whether it is done in hardware or software, it just gets messy, and tends to hurt in performance and reliability when you have one pretending to be the other, like all low cost Adaptec RAID controller, and perhaps the type in your motherboard chipset
[04:04] <beti3_> lets go back to ubuntu
[04:04] <ubuntu_novice2> hi betil
[04:04] <ubuntu_novice2> betil: asl
[04:04] <solee> Quinthius: aha.. so i have to give some argument to the 'command' right?
[04:04] <beti5> please explaine ubunto
[04:04] <Leshrac> I think the question I want to know, is how do I ass repositories to apt-get?
[04:04] <Quinthius> solee: yeah... i assume so anyway
[04:04] <Leshrac> *-add, sorry
[04:04] <win> still virgin
[04:04] <beti1> 30 m baguio city. u?
[04:04] <solee> Quinthius: alright.. thank you a lot for the help :)
[04:05] <ubuntu_novice2> 30 m baguio city also
[04:05] <nathanel> dbl: so what did you enter exactly?
[04:05] <shamus> I'm getting this error when trying to run a program, error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, i tried install libstdc++6 but it's newest version. what do i need?
[04:05] <ubuntu_novice2> where in baguio?
[04:05] <Quinthius> solee: where to find options for the X server, i dunno... prolly in "man X" somewhere
[04:05] <solee> ok :)
[04:05] <john_> snow: ok... have you used mdadm, or dmraid, or any experience with these?
[04:05] <beti1> harrison
[04:05] <cute> ayan mo ubunto_novice
[04:05] <snowwoolf> john_ I'm running software RAID on one computer.  One drive is IDE, and one is SCSI.  I'm setting up a 5.10 Preview box with 4 SCSI drives, in two RAID-1s right now, and I ran into a freeze after the reboot on the "Preparing for installation..." screen
[04:05] <ubuntu_novice2> ummm
[04:05] <beti1> beti harrison. about u?
[04:05] <ubuntu_novice2> I cafe owner?
[04:05] <ubuntu_novice2> T.Alonzo
[04:05] <beti1> what cafe?
[04:05] <snowwoolf> john_, mdadm is easy, you can get to it right from the customize partition screen in the installer
[04:05] <win> chat ka rin tol
[04:05] <ubuntu_novice2> internt cafe owner too?
[04:06] <beti5> really?
[04:06] <john_> snow: eh?  i can set it up during the install?
[04:06] <Quinthius> solee: ahhh, -br is what makes the root window (bg) black
[04:07] <cute> sldfjk
[04:07] <beti3_> do u know a lot in ubunto @ ubunt_novice
[04:07] <tga> if gphoto2 can't make my camera capture an image will any other app have better luck?
[04:07] <ubuntu_novice2> nathanel: I runned it but i still find the same problem
[04:07] <Quinthius> solee: and i dont see any way to set a color, so i guess you're stuck with black or mesh :)
[04:08] <beti3_> tagalog n lng po tau
[04:08] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice2: strange. try sudo aptitude
[04:08] <snowwoolf> john_ I haven't seen any documentation on it, so I can't tell you if I'm doing it the right way, but I can tell you what worked for me.  In the installer, manually partition the drive.  Set both partitions in the RAID to be of type mdm, and bootable.  Then select mdm admin from the menu, and make the RAID.
[04:08] <johndarkhorse> beti3_: in #ubuntu-ph, for tagalog
[04:09] <beti3_> do u know 2 use d network
[04:09] <ubuntu_novice2> maybe i shud restart the PC, will that work?
[04:09] <snowwoolf> john_ when you return to the main partitioning program, you'll see the mdm volume, which you can select the file system you want to go onto it.
[04:10] <solee> Quinthius: ahhhh! right, thanks. (hehe, black was also what i would do if i could select color. :D)
[04:10] <beti3_> are u using ubuntu right now @ ubuntu_novice
[04:10] <drsynackuator> i just spent 2 hours screwing w/ alsa when i realized my volume was all the way down....
[04:10] <Quinthius> solee:  :D
[04:10] <apokryphos> ubuntu_novice2: whatever the problem is... this isn't Windows :P
[04:10] <Quinthius> drsynackuator: haha..
[04:10] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice2: don't think so
[04:10] <Quinthius> drsynackuator: that's why you ask yourself (and those you help) the dumbest questions first :P ... "is it plugged in?" "is it turnedon?"
[04:11] <drsynackuator> no kidding
[04:11] <john_> thanks snowwollf i'll give it a whirl.  maybe that's what I did when I got it going the first time round... two weeks ago now and I'm banging my head for not writing down how i did it.
[04:11] <beti3_> who's using ubuntu os here
[04:11] <drsynackuator> i feel really dumb
[04:11] <snowwoolf> john_, All my Ubuntu machines boot with GRUB.  I haven't gotten LILO to work for a RAID-1.  Something else I do, after the system is up, is to install GRUB onto the boot sector of the other drive in the mirror set, so if your boot drive fails, the computer can boot off of the other one.
[04:11] <Quinthius> hehe
[04:11] <dman13> I'm having a problem with my system now.  It wouldn't boot, so I managed to upgrade to kernel 2.6.12 but now the trackpoint is acting very eratic.  This is a Thinkpad 390x.  Any ideas?
[04:11] <tga> is there an app like kpgp for gnome?
[04:11] <firefly> beti can set the internet of your new lop top! where is your location?
[04:11] <ksmurf> I have been trying to get the Madwifi driver going in breezy all day but no go.  I had it up but they died.  I don't know how I did it and would like to get them going. Any help would be apprecizted
[04:11] <tga> other than the seahorse thing
[04:11] <reiki> beti3_, presumeably most everyone in here
[04:11] <ubuntu_novice2> apokryphos: Hahahahaha...
[04:12] <dbl> nathanel i was enter run sudo gedit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[04:12] <ubuntu_novice2> apokryphos: thnks
[04:12] <johndarkhorse> tga: seahorse does gpg for gnome
[04:12] <snowwoolf> john_ on the latest computer I tried to setup a RAID 0/1 last week.  From what I could piece together in the forums, bootable RAID-1 support is the most one can count on working, and RAID 0s aren't bootable yet
[04:12] <john_> snow: roj.  I saw that in some of the howtos and think I can cope with that.  Do you alter the grub.conf at all?  do they both look like (hd0,0) or don't know doesn't matter?
[04:13] <cycom> why the hell would my sound work when gdm start, play the drum sound twice, and then the sound stops
[04:13] <cycom> and doesn't work
[04:13] <johndarkhorse> tga: sorry am busy atm, did you ask uncle google "gpg frontend linux"?
[04:13] <moondogie> anyone have problems with xine or noatun locking up the pc .
[04:13] <MrMaDSeN> I need help installing Sun Java... .without doing it manually
[04:13] <MrMaDSeN> any suggestions?
[04:13] <nathanel> dbl: don't type run. just "sudo gedit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf" (without the "")
[04:13] <dbl> ok
[04:13] <dbl> they may ask a password
[04:13] <ndazza> hi! are other people running breezy having problems with their usb drives?
[04:14] <dbl> nathanel they ask a password
[04:14] <SuperTails92> cycom: Have you tried doing killall esd && nohup esd at the CLI?
[04:14] <snowwoolf> john_, I think I may have had to change the grub.conf on the first box I have a RAID-1 on.  I'm using a somewhat different drive config, but it's possible 5.10 Preview takes care of it
[04:14] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice2: what does sudo dpkg --configure -a output?
[04:14] <bako> hi everybody
[04:14] <tga> johndarkhorse, I want to right click a gpg file and decrypt it automagically
[04:14] <cycom> SuperTails92: no, lemme give that a shot
[04:14] <nathanel> dbl: yes, then enter you login password
[04:14] <tga> johndarkhorse, afaict seahorse doesn't do that
[04:15] <tga> MrMaDSeN, you can use the backports repository and just install the packages
[04:15] <john_> thanks snowwoolf.  you've set me up to have another crack at it.  what're you here for?
[04:15] <cycom> SuperTails92: aha! esd isn't running
[04:15] <bako> hey, im new whit linux and i have a few questions, can you help me?
[04:15] <johndarkhorse> tga: hmm, have you googled "context menu nautilus gpg'?
[04:15] <tga> :)
[04:15] <johndarkhorse> bako: just ask
[04:15] <dbl> nathanel i see this : (gedit:28754): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[04:15] <dbl> (gedit:28754): Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers
[04:16] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice2: use the pastebot (paste.ubuntulinux.nl) if its more than 2 lines :)
[04:16] <bako> well, im trying to install somethig called gdesklets
[04:16] <ubuntu_novice2> nathaniel: nothing, it returned to its promplt
[04:16] <SuperTails92> dbl: 90% of the time, Gdk-WARNINGs can be ignored safely
[04:16] <MrMaDSeN> tga: got an url for my sources.list last time I was here.. worked fine.. now I cant remember the url
[04:16] <johndarkhorse> bako: the the trouble is?
[04:16] <johndarkhorse> !tell MrMaDSeN about sources
[04:16] <bako> i cannot find it in synaptics
[04:16] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice2: the try: sudo apt-get install swat
[04:16] <snowwoolf> now for my question... I'm installing Ubuntu 5.10 Preview on a computer with two software RAID-1s, using SCSI drives.  After the reboot, Ubuntu hangs on the screen with "Preparing for installation..." at 0%.  I can log into another console, and the file system is there.  I don't see anything in the bootup which might be causing it.
[04:16] <dbl> what was the meaning of that ?
[04:16] <bako> so, how ca i install a package
[04:17] <bako> when it is out of synaptic
[04:17] <SuperTails92> !tell bako about synaptic
[04:17] <bako> ?
[04:17] <nathanel> dbl: that should have opened a text editor with the file /etc/cups/cupsd.conf in it
[04:17] <johndarkhorse> !tell bako about sources
[04:17] <SuperTails92> Wait, sorry.
[04:17] <tga> !tell MrMaDSeN about hoary-extras
[04:17] <johndarkhorse> bako: you have a msg from ubotu
[04:17] <ubuntu_novice2> nathanel: I did it... it displays....  Reading package lists... Done
[04:17] <ubuntu_novice2> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:17] <ubuntu_novice2> E: Couldn't find package swat
[04:17] <ubuntu_novice2> user@raylight15:~$
[04:18] <johndarkhorse> tga: the sources factoid includes extras
[04:18] <john_> snow: it might have to do some serious thinking... like scanning big arse drives, you sure it's hung? top ps -ax etc
[04:18] <apokryphos> ubuntu_novice2: please don't paste in here :)
[04:18] <dbl> nathanel yes they have here what should i do now ?
[04:18] <johndarkhorse> ubuntu_novice2: dont paste in here, please, use #flood or a pastebin (see /topic)
[04:18] <bako> ok, thanks!
[04:18] <cycom> SuperTails92: so what if esd is not running?
[04:18] <snowwoolf> john_, good luck with it.  Aside from ICP Vortex hardware RAIDs, (which Intel bought, which I think they now sold to Adaptec,) most hardware RAID products are horendous.
[04:18] <apokryphos> johndarkhorse: did you know java pack is no longer in hoary-extras?
[04:18] <tga> MrMaDSeN, !sources
[04:18] <johndarkhorse> apokryphos: no i did not
[04:18] <MrMaDSeN> tga: got it
[04:18] <ubuntu_novice2> oh im sorry... howam i going to do that
[04:19] <GatoLoko> anyone have freepascal working in breezy?
[04:19] <snowwoolf> john_, I let it go for over 45 minutes, and their is no HD activity.  It's a pretty fast Xeon based computer, with 10K SCSI drives that aren't that big
[04:19] <apokryphos> johndarkhorse: "forced to for legal reasons", apparently
[04:19] <tga> for some reason evolution-data-server-1.2 hogs up all my cpu every time I start evo.. any way around that?
[04:19] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice2: ok, that means you need to add universe to your sources.list first
[04:20] <MrMaDSeN> brb
[04:20] <john_> snow: yeah, well it wasn't why I bought this mobo, just a curiousity when I was playing around mounting drives and copying stuff around.  Just annoyed that it worked... and now it doesn't.  Humm, yep, sounds hung.  Are there any logs to offer clues as to how far it got, or what it was doing when it hung?
[04:20] <nathanel> dbl: first you need to know the ip adress of this computer and the ip range of the computers that should be allowed to print
[04:20] <drsynackuator> i am the leet i have a vista box
[04:21] <ubuntu_novice2> universe? whats that?
[04:21] <apokryphos> ubuntu_novice2: it's another Ubuntu repository.
[04:21] <tga> hmm.. how come thunderbird has support for movemail?
[04:21] <SuperTails92> drsynackuator:I am leeter, I have a sid box
[04:21] <bako> thanks a lot for your help
[04:21] <bako> bye
[04:21] <tga> what's special about movemail?
[04:21] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell ubuntu_novice2 about components
[04:21] <john_> although i noticed it takes well over an hour (possibly 2) to mirror my 200GB seagates
[04:21] <john_> but the disks are obviously working.
[04:21] <tommyt> hi all .. trying to install j2re1.5 from hoary-extras repository as instructed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com//Java
[04:21] <nathanel> !tell nathanel about components
[04:21] <snowwoolf> john_, on console 8 which gets the boot log in 5.10 Preview, the last two things are "Starting RAID monitoring services", and "Power interface daemon..."
[04:22] <tommyt> but I cant find the deb ...
[04:22] <dbl> yes i know the ip address of the computer
[04:22] <johndarkhorse> apokryphos: that doesnt make sense. i thought extras was for the legally questionable stuff as it was
[04:22] <tommyt> using 5.04 .. anyone has any idea?
[04:22] <apokryphos> johndarkhorse: exactly
[04:22] <apokryphos> johndarkhorse: it's not directly associated with Ubuntu in any way. Mez just dropped in #kubuntu and mentioned that they were forced to though, apparently.
[04:22] <johndarkhorse> apokryphos: too bad i cant kick the dog from here
[04:22] <drsynackuator> does anyone know how to write to a file while still outputing to the screen!!?!?
[04:22] <apokryphos> johndarkhorse: I assume the ubuntulinux repo still has it, so it's all good.
[04:23] <drsynackuator> like a nmap -sP 192.168.0.0/16 >scanfile
[04:23] <drsynackuator> can you see output while it also writes to the specified file?
[04:23] <reiki> I need Ubuntu for my garage door opener. I just had to reboot my garage door opener. It must think it runs on Windows
[04:23] <snowwoolf> is this the right channel to ask 5.10 Preview questions, or is there a developer channel I should be in?
[04:24] <SuperTails92> drsynackuator: Pipe it into tee
[04:24] <tommyt> drsynackuator: man tee
[04:24] <nathanel> dbl: ok, then you have to add a listen statement so that the server listens on the network.
[04:24] <drsynackuator> tommyt: thx
[04:24] <dbl> listens ?
[04:24] <nathanel> dbl: look up http://localhost:631/sam.html#Listen to see how it should look like
[04:25] <dbl> ok
[04:25] <tommyt> anyone know what happened to j2re1.5 at the hoary-extras repository?
[04:25] <john_> snow: yah, can't find anything about Power interface daemons in my startups... does that mean the raid monitoring services started and its actually the power daemon that hangs?
[04:25] <johndarkhorse> snowwoolf: ask your question
[04:26] <dbl> nthanel i input it in terminal the listen ?
[04:26] <dabaR> johndarkhorse: I made a cool plan for the pres I am doing at school in a few days.
[04:26] <tommyt> john_: I just joined the site, what is your problem with your raid? software is it?
[04:26] <snowwoolf> johndarkhorse, I'm installing Ubuntu 5.10 Preview on a computer with two software RAID-1s, using SCSI drives.  After the reboot, Ubuntu hangs on the screen with "Preparing for installation..." at 0%.  I can log into another console, and the file system is there.  I don't see anything in the bootup which might be causing it.
[04:26] <MrMaDSeN> crimsun: THNX a lot dude... brand new soundblaster is working now....
[04:27] <dabaR> excellent.
[04:27] <MrMaDSeN> yes
[04:27] <MrMaDSeN> indeed
[04:27] <Leshrac> while compiling winex I get the following error:
[04:27] <Leshrac> *** Warning: X development files not found. Wine will be built without
[04:27] <Leshrac> *** X support, which currently does not work, and would probably not be
[04:27] <Leshrac> *** what you want anyway. You will need to install devel packages of
[04:27] <Leshrac> *** Xlib/Xfree86 at the very least.
[04:27] <dabaR> thats what he used to say, MrMaDSeN
[04:27] <johndarkhorse> snowwoolf: breezy is under heavy bug-smashing at the moment
[04:27] <Leshrac> does anyone know whic packages I have to install to solve it?
[04:27] <johndarkhorse> Leshrac: do not paste in here! use #flood or a pastebin (read the /topic)
[04:27] <windex> i won.
[04:27] <john_> tommyt: yeah, just trying to work out how to set up raid1.  I've got a cheap via southbridge bios "raid" and was playing around with it one day and it majickally worked.  Thus I went and bought a new disk, and can't get it to raid onto that now.
[04:28] <johndarkhorse> Leshrac: install xlibs-dev
[04:28] <johndarkhorse> Leshrac: and dont paste again
[04:28] <snowwoolf> johndarkhorse: does that mean I should just wait?
[04:28] <tommyt> john_: so you have a hardware sata raid card?
[04:28] <Leshrac> sorry for the paste
[04:28] <Leshrac> and thanks for the help
[04:29] <john_> tommyt: the snowwoolf said he was able to get into mdadm during the install process and that worked for him.  Hardware raid? Yes/No.  Its the VIA8237 Southbridge which does raid throught the bios, its a fake raid apparently.
[04:29] <tommyt> john_: i always thought that if it is hardware then you dont need md ...
[04:29] <MrMaDSeN> wtf... did bitlbee.org reset their servers
[04:30] <MrMaDSeN> dammit
[04:30] <nathanel> dbl: no you have to put it into your cupsd.conf
[04:30] <tommyt> john_: sounds like fake raid.. .but does it have its own raid controlling program, ie: if you reboot it, does it boot up the raid card first, and an option for u to get into its controller program to create arrays?
[04:30] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice2: did you add universe to your sources.list?
[04:30] <dbl> ok
[04:30] <john_> tommy: yeah that's what I was hoping.  When it 'worked' i found the os only reported one disk /dev/sda, and /dev/sdb was nowhere to be found... now no matter what i do, it always finds/presents both.
[04:31] <dbl> nathanel i type it ?
[04:31] <tommyt> john_: I just installed my ubuntu with raid-1 at startup, it was really easy, but I dont have a raid card so that might make it easier
[04:31] <kasper> I have tried several audio programs and all of them skip while playing
[04:32] <john_> tommyt: yes.  "Hit <tab> to enter the" raid bios screens, which all happens before boot.  You're doing without the hardware?  do tell... :)
[04:32] <kasper> Does anyone know of a solution for this problem
[04:32] <johndarkhorse> snowwoolf: file a bug at bugzilla.ubuntu.com, if you would (or check if a bug has been filed)
[04:32] <nathanel> dbl: yes. preferably put it directly below any already existing "Listen" statement
[04:32] <keenan> how come metacity takes two minutes to start?
[04:32] <fossa> how do i configure my internet?
[04:32] <tommyt> john_: there are 2 ways 2 do it .. hardware and software ... hardware consists of a controller program on the hardware board, while software is controlled by md ... (md, mdadm ..etc)
[04:33] <fossa> i have a laptop with eth0 = ethernet and eth1 = wireless
[04:33] <tga> fossa, so do I!
[04:33] <fossa> help me out :-)
[04:33] <tommyt> john_: so if it is hardware, after u created the storage arrary, you should c the disc as a scsi interface .. given your kernel has the right driver for the card
[04:33] <kasper> can anyone help me get my audio players to stop skipping while playing
[04:33] <omp> 98% done with breezy iso :)
[04:33] <SuperTails92> keenan: Horribly mangled configurations always make light WMs slow to start.
[04:33] <snowwoolf> johndarkhorse: I already searched bugzilla.  if there is a big listed for it, I didn't find it.  I'll see about filling a bug report for it.  Thanks for your help.
[04:33] <fossa> system -> administration -> networking didn't get it going.
[04:34] <tga> fossa, what exactly doesn't work?
[04:34] <johndarkhorse> tga: did you ask uncle google about the nautilus context menu
[04:34] <fossa> i checked the box that said 'eth1 is configured' and then clicked activate, and it said activated, but there was no internet connection.
[04:34] <dylan_> when will ubuntu 5.04 include gnome 2.12?
[04:34] <tga> johndarkhorse, I didn't really find much
[04:34] <apokryphos> 2.12 is gonna be backported?
[04:34] <tommyt> john_: however .. software raid is done via the md "subroutine (some component, i dont know what so I'm calling it subroutine, sounds geekie enough) .. so to access that storage array you use /dev/md0 .. etc
[04:34] <johndarkhorse> tga: write one
[04:34] <keenan> SuperTails92: so how can I fix my "horribly mangled" configuration?
[04:35] <tga> johndarkhorse, I guess that would be an idea
[04:35] <SuperTails92> keenan: No clue. Sorry.
[04:35] <johndarkhorse> apokryphos: not to my knowledge. too many differences and depends
[04:35] <dylan_> when will ubuntu 5.04 include gnome 2.12?
[04:35] <tga> dylan_, never
[04:35] <dylan_> tga, why not?
[04:35] <apokryphos> dylan_: you said that around one minute ago.
[04:35] <apokryphos> dylan_: check what johndarkhorse said
[04:35] <dylan_> apokryphos, sorry my ctrl + v keys screwed up
[04:35] <snowwoolf> dylan_: Gnome 2.12 will be in the next version.  Ubuntu 5.10, which is in preview right now
[04:35] <dylan_> snowwoolf, thanks!
[04:35] <tommyt> john_: so john, what have u done so far?
[04:35] <apokryphos> johndarkhorse: 3.5 is getting backported to Kubuntu Hoary though :P
[04:36] <tommyt> john_: oh and that's only my understanding .. so I could be wrong ...
[04:36] <snowwoolf> dylan_: more info on 5.10: http://www.ubuntu.com/newsitems/5.10preview
[04:36] <tga> backports are not official, eh?
[04:36] <kasper> hey anyone know how to get xmms to stop skipping while playing songs, especially when opening applications????????
[04:36] <tga> kasper, do you have a slower machine?
[04:36] <kasper> It is a 1000mhz dell latitude
[04:37] <tga> kasper, one thing you could do is switch output plugins.. try OSS/alsa/esd
[04:37] <john_> tommyt: yeah, so you're mounting /dev/md0.  Nothing with the software... I'm still hoping I can get the hardware to do it by itself, but I'm now thinking I must have loaded some kernel module, or typed a magic incantation to get it to go.
[04:37] <keenan> hmm, i made a new user and it starts up nice and fast for it
[04:37] <fossa> anyone... network config..
[04:37] <tommyt> john_: ya .. the md0 is the software ..
[04:37] <dbl> nathanel thank but for now i need to relax my brain :)
[04:37] <tga> fossa, what card do you have?
[04:38] <fossa> whatever comes in a dell latitude
[04:38] <kasper> ok, I will try that.... what I would really like to do is use amarok...but it is worse with that program
[04:38] <dbl> sleepin time i will came back soon
[04:38] <fossa> eth0 is ethernet port and eth1 is wireless
[04:38] <tga> sheesh, all the latitudes out there
[04:38] <tommyt> john_: if u want to use hardware, you have to craete the array at boot time, (hit tab to get into that program)
[04:38] <dbl> its hard to understand
[04:38] <tga> fossa, you might need extra drivers to get wireless going
[04:38] <tommyt> and u should c it at kernel
[04:38] <kasper> I heard there was a way to increase the audio buffer size.....would this work
[04:38] <dbl> sorry for disturbing this is my first time to use a linux
[04:38] <nathanel> dbl: no problem... cu
[04:38] <johndarkhorse> apokryphos: i think 2.12 depends on the new libc6, which is why it's not planned to b/p
[04:38] <tga> kasper, try it and see.. look in the plugin's config
[04:38] <john_> tommyt: so does it show the /dev/sd[ab]  at all? or are they hidden.  Plus do you notice any performance impact.  Plus, have you checked that it writes to both disks in real time?
[04:39] <apokryphos> right
[04:39] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice2: still here?
[04:39] <tga> fossa, for your eth0.. lspci |grep Eth
[04:40] <fossa> what does that do?
[04:40] <h0sl3r> How do I get my ubuntu box to play midis?
[04:40] <kasper> where is that located at?
[04:40] <dman13> any ideas on fixing erratic behavior with an ibm trackpoint?
[04:40] <tga> h0sl3r, http://www.google.ca/search?q=ubuntu+midi
[04:40] <tommyt> john_: dont know bout performance .. I've only created mine this morning .. first time ... hardware wise I've been playing with some hardcore raid cards so cant compare to software ...
[04:41] <Angel-SL> pp
[04:41] <Angel-SL> aahhh
[04:41] <Angel-SL> is lpd a print server?
[04:41] <Angel-SL> !printserver
[04:41] <tga> fossa, it shows you what kind of network card you have
[04:41] <ubotu> Angel-SL: I give up, what is it?
[04:41] <john_> tommyt: ah, well, congratulations :)
[04:41] <kasper> tga, where is the plugin config located
[04:41] <fossa> i hide my porn on the linux partition b/c my wife is clueless how to use linux. she gets mad when it boots linux instead of windows.
[04:41] <SuperTails92> !lpd
[04:41] <ubotu> SuperTails92: Are you smoking crack?
[04:41] <tommyt> john_: if u create the array on hardware, and u loaded the driver at kernel boot time, you should c it at dmesg .. if u dont then the driver isn't loaded or kernel not compiled properly ..
[04:41] <tga> options -> preferences -> audio plugins
[04:41] <fossa> hey i'm going to try applications - system tools - network tools
[04:42] <Earthen> coould anyone help with getting mic to work
[04:42] <keenan> all right, i removed a bunch of .stuff in my home directory and one of them must have been the culprit =P
[04:42] <fossa> whenever i can get the laptop away from her...
[04:42] <tga> fossa, that should work for your eth0.. you might need the wrapper if your wireless card is an Intel
[04:42] <tga> Earthen, what exactly are you trying to do?
[04:43] <snackalot> can anyone Help with gnutella
[04:43] <fossa> what is a wrapper?
[04:43] <apokryphos> snackalot: what's the problem?
[04:43] <Earthen> I installed teamspeak and the mic doesn't seem to work
[04:43] <tga> fossa, ndiswrapper.. as far as I know it allows you to use Win drivers for wireless cards
[04:43] <john_> tommyt: now go and unplug one.. see if it works.  Yeah.  I'm resigned with the hardware - why I came here, last ditch attempt - I think I'll just continue with my build and keep an eye open for it.  I had install the sound drivers which were specific to the same Southbridge that does this raid thing, might stumble over whatever it was that got me going in the first place
[04:43] <tga> fossa, I never needed it so I can't tell you more
[04:44] <Pinoy915> I like Ubuntu again. Finally got wireless up and running on my laptop. WinXP is no more...
[04:44] <snackalot> o no problem it works but i dl movies and cant watch they skip and mess up
[04:44] <Earthen> tga, the sound works but not the mic
[04:44] <tga> Earthen, what app are you trying to use the mic with?
[04:44] <tga> Earthen, are you sure you plugged in right?
[04:44] <Earthen> tga, Teamspeak
[04:44] <tga> Earthen, did you select the mic as your recording device?
[04:44] <fossa> ok. thanks for your help!
[04:44] <Earthen> tga, yes it works in windows
[04:45] <tommyt> john_: what's happening now .. what is working / !working
[04:45] <tommyt> john_: what can u c
[04:45] <tga> Earthen, volume control -> capture -> toggle audio capture
[04:45] <Earthen> tga, wher do i do that
[04:45] <tga> Earthen, or use alsamixer in the console
[04:46] <snackalot> apokryphos hoy to dl movies and be able to watch them thanks
[04:46] <abarbaccia> anybody use amarok with breezy and have it crash all the time?
[04:46] <QMario> Prodegy, how do I change the SSID on my router?
[04:46] <tga> snackalot, watching movies has nothing to do with downloading them
[04:46] <apokryphos> snackalot: I wouldn't use the Gnutella network for anything other than films, myself.
[04:46] <apokryphos> abarbaccia: when did you install?
[04:47] <apokryphos> errr, *anything other than music
[04:47] <tga> why do people bother with breezy if they're not really beta testing it?
[04:47] <durt> qmario, depends on your router
[04:47] <QMario> How do I change the SSID on my Linksys router?
[04:47] <apokryphos> tga: they want the new stuff, a lot of the time.
[04:47] <john_> tommyt: I set it up as raid1 in the bios and it busily copies the whole source disk to the mirror. Then I boot up but it recognises them as seperate drives (sda and sdb).  I can mount the sdb and examine the contents.  If i check out /var/log on sdb the timestamps are all set to the shutdown time before I setup the mirror in bios.  thus I figure its not working.
[04:47] <abarbaccia> apokryphos, it updated last night i believe
[04:47] <QMario> Durt, Linksys Wireless-G.
[04:47] <tga> apokryphos, they don't really need it though, and they get a load of problems together with it
[04:47] <tga> apokryphos, and then they go on irc and complain
[04:48] <snackalot> aporkryphos I dont know if its dl them correctley every one iv dl is bad
[04:48] <durt> qmario enter http://192.168.1.1/ into the address bar
[04:48] <Versed> http://192.168.1.1/Wireless_Basic.asp
[04:48] <apokryphos> abarbaccia: I mean, when did you install the latest version you have?
[04:48] <durt> and use "admin" as the password
[04:48] <Versed> ssid is there
[04:48] <abarbaccia> of ubuntu?  i got the preview release a week ago
[04:48] <apokryphos> abarbaccia: it's been updated since yesterday (which was when 1.3.1 was first put in)
[04:48] <tommyt> john_: o .. when u r mounting at boot up are u mounting sda or md? and how did u setup the raid1?
[04:48] <apokryphos> tga: sometimes yes, sometimes no. Whether they "need" anything is another question
[04:49] <durt> do what versed said
[04:49] <nathanel> durt: do you have a postscript printer? maybe the ps files is interpreted differently between evince and your printer?
[04:49] <apokryphos> tga: but quite a few have uncovered a few bugs while complaining on here, and bug reports have been suggested, and many have complied, so in that sense it's good.
[04:49] <apokryphos> tga: general community testing is good.
[04:50] <abarbaccia> apokryphos, i'm fully up to date
[04:50] <QMario> Okay, durt and Versed!!! Thank you!!! :) Thank God!!! :)
[04:50] <john_> tommyt: when I had it working before, after boot I only had sda, and no sign of sdb.  Thus I pulled the plug on sdb and booted.  The bios popped up and said the raid had failed, do I want to continue.  If i did it booted fine from the mirror.   I haven't had to go near md? at all.
[04:50] <apokryphos> abarbaccia: so sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install amarok   ...delivers "already latest version"?
[04:51] <abarbaccia> apokryphos, yes
[04:51] <snackalot> how do you get john to work
[04:51] <apokryphos> abarbaccia: it's probably worth compiling a bug report, then.
[04:51] <abarbaccia> i wish i could see the error when it crashes
[04:51] <abarbaccia> i'll run it through the term a few times
[04:51] <abarbaccia> and hopefully it'll crash and i can report it
[04:52] <johndarkhorse> snackalot: john what?
[04:52] <apokryphos> abarbaccia: what engine?
[04:52] <john_> tommyt: it must be a driver thing which jumps in during the boot, and says "hey this is a raid" and thus gets rid of sdb.  I dunno :<
[04:52] <Versed> np
[04:52] <abarbaccia> apokryphos, i use the xine engine
[04:52] <snackalot> john the riper
[04:52] <Versed> atleast I got to return something on all the help I have got here, this is a great channel
[04:52] <apokryphos> abarbaccia: hm, same; no crashes though. Odd.
[04:52] <abarbaccia> apokryphos, alright, well, maybe it was just a fluke thing
[04:52] <johndarkhorse> snackalot: we dont condone that sort of thing here, you can try the man page or the website(s) (there are lots on its use)
[04:52] <apokryphos> abarbaccia: but you said it "kept" crashing, no?
[04:52] <tommyt> john: hmm .. looks like it might be your raid card .. what's your dmesg looks like?
[04:52] <Earthen> tga, I sill don't seem to have mic working
[04:53] <abarbaccia> apokryphos, its done it like 3x since the upgrade
[04:53] <abarbaccia> and its only been like 2 days
[04:53] <tommyt> email it to twyt88@hotmail.com if u wanna
[04:53] <apokryphos> hm
[04:53] <misfit_toy> POS time warner
[04:53] <apokryphos> abarbaccia: since the upgrade to 1.3.1?
[04:53] <snackalot> sorry bout that the program comes with ubuntu!
[04:53] <abarbaccia> yes
[04:53] <apokryphos> abarbaccia: when it was first packaged there were known problems wiht it. It was repackaged a few times since then though
[04:53] <apokryphos> abarbaccia: if you say you have the latest and there's still crashes, then there's apparently still probs.
[04:53] <john_> tommyt: at the moment it looks perfectly normal and just finds the two drives like two drives.  I'm wishing I still had a copy of the dmesg from when I had it working.
[04:54] <johndarkhorse> snackalot: lots of programs come with ubuntu. there is a manpage for it, or look in /usr/share/docs/
[04:54] <snackalot> thanks john did not mean any harm.
[04:55] <tommyt> hmm .. u shouldn't be able to c sdb and sda .. if it is hardware .. the kernel won't know the difference ...
[04:55] <tommyt> but if u can c the 2 then I guess it isn't working ..
[04:55] <tommyt> go back into the raid bios and c what the setting is ... btw what is the chipset on the card?
[04:56] <nathanel> ubuntu_novice2: what are you doing?
[04:56] <Earthen> tga, Actully I am not getting recorded sound but it is very faint
[04:57] <john_> tommyt: via vt8327 (aka k8t800pro aka vt6???)
[04:57] <spiderworm> hi all, all the dvd playback helps i can find tell me to add an apt repo that no longer exists, ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main.... is there a different repo i can get libdvdcss from instaead
[04:57] <snackalot> johndarkhorse /usr/share/docs/ open term type that in it tells me that no such file or dir
[04:58] <apokryphos> spiderworm: you shouldn't be using marillat anyway. It can break your system.
[04:58] <spiderworm> apokryphos: can you tell me where to get the libdvdcss from then? universe? multiverse?
[04:59] <apokryphos> !info libdvdcss
[04:59] <apokryphos> hm
[04:59] <john_> tommyt: never mind.  time to go play with it some more.  thanks for your help.
[04:59] <tommyt> john_: hmm . i dont know .. enough im afraid .. at the dmesg what does it say when the sda appears .. capture the dmesg for now and c ... do u mind rebuilding your system?
[04:59] <spiderworm> ive got my friend here and im looking like a real idiot here, linux is looking like an idiot, cause i cant even find this damn package
[05:00] <apokryphos> spiderworm: it's in hoary-extras
[05:00] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell spiderworm about hoary-extras
[05:00] <tommyt> john_: no worries!
[05:00] <Hommm> hi
[05:01] <apokryphos> Hallo!
[05:01] <Hommm> halo
[05:02] <spiderworm> apokryphos: thank you, thats the repo i need it looks like
[05:02] <Hommm> did you find some free space ?
[05:04] <gamer6> HI guys
[05:04] <dylan_> i just copied a file from a CD onto my Desktop.  the file has a little yellow lock on it.  how do i change the permissions so that it doesnt show that lock anymore?
[05:04] <Hommm> gamer6,
[05:04] <gamer6> i'm new to ubuntu
[05:04] <johndarkhorse> dylan_: right click on it, and select properties
[05:04] <dylan_> johndarkhorse, ok then...
[05:05] <Hommm> dylan_,
[05:05] <johndarkhorse> dylan_: uncheck the permissions that keep it locked
[05:05] <dylan_> johndarkhorse, ok thanks dude
[05:05] <dylan_> Hommm, got it
[05:05] <gamer6> can some1 help me in trying to install gunbound or mu?
[05:05] <neighborlee> just crashed after trying to start thunderbird email client...using badram patch is all with 2.6.10 ( due to crashing I was getting ) and wondering is there a way to ascertain from some log file what might have caused it ??
[05:05] <humbolt> what is the best supported wlan chipset under linux?
[05:05] <Hommm> it got nothing
[05:05] <neighborlee> gamer6, hm sigh I've never heard of them...url ?
[05:05] <Hommm> its ok, go one
[05:05] <neighborlee> gamer6, might be in synatpic dont know as i've never heard of them
[05:06] <Turicas> hello..i use ubuntu and did "apt-get install xfce4". it's ok...but yesterday the menu and wallpaper  dessapeared!
[05:06] <nathanel> neighborlee: nothing in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages?
[05:06] <neighborlee> Turicas, hmm I"ve not heard of any instability in xfce4 but then...I'd ask in #xfce
[05:06] <gamer6> www.gunbound.ph
[05:06] <mkyb14> how do you install Thunderbird??  there are no directions even on their site!!!
[05:07] <neighborlee> nathanel, correct, nothing ;(
[05:07] <todd_> hey guys!  im in desperate need of sound drivers for the intel 82801db-ich4 card
[05:07] <neighborlee> nathanel, I checked anything that looked likely in /var/log and see no errors
[05:07] <todd_> where can they be found?
[05:07] <johndarkhorse> mkyb14: use synaptic
[05:07] <gamer6> i just downloaded the ubuntu distro just today
[05:07] <citrus_> so.. is it safe to upgrade breezy yet?  or is it still quite unstable?
[05:07] <johndarkhorse> citrus_: it's bug hunting season on breezy atm
[05:08] <citrus_> do you use it?
[05:08] <neighborlee> todd_,might make sure alsamixer has sound turend up and that sound applet doesn't have red slash through it.and check: lspci to see if your system even sees it
[05:08] <gamer6> gunbound is an online game built for MS
[05:08] <johndarkhorse> citrus_: yes i have it on one of my machines
[05:08] <todd_> sound applet?
[05:08] <neighborlee> gamer6, oh dear
[05:08] <citrus_> have you incountered any anoying bugs?
[05:08] <mkyb14> is synaptic the same as apt-get
[05:08] <gamer6> i want to play it using ubuntu
[05:08] <omp> < using breezy :)
[05:09] <johndarkhorse> citrus_: heh heheh, yes anyone how uses breezy in the now encounters bugs
[05:09] <todd_> me too, just installed it
[05:09] <mkyb14> i tried apt-get install thunderbird and that was a no go
[05:09] <DonL> My MS using friends showed me Google Earth today. Wish we had something like it
[05:09] <johndarkhorse> citrus_: none really are pitas, tho
[05:09] <Turicas> neighborlee, i asked in #xfce..but dont ansered me ;/
[05:09] <neighborlee> gamer6, hmm well..i'd suggest a linux alternative but if your set on it..consider : winehq.com to try to emulate it..
[05:09] <durt> what about xfce?
[05:09] <neighborlee> Turicas, might be in UK or something..wait a bit longer
[05:09] <neighborlee> Turicas, or try their ML
[05:09] <neighborlee> &/or
[05:09] <citrus_> do they realease new packages for breezy on a pretty regular basis??
[05:10] <kairu0> how can i check which codec an avi file uses? i have mplayer vlc totem right now
[05:10] <Hommm> some zombies ?
[05:10] <Turicas> ml?
[05:10] <durt> ok i scrolled up and you say the "meny wallpaper disappeared"? what do you mean turicas?
[05:10] <neighborlee> mkyb14, yes but with a nice GUI ;-)..
[05:10] <DonL> citrus_, I think Breezy gets released in October some time
[05:11] <nathanel> neighborlee: maybe you could get some messages if you put your /var filesystem in synchronous mode, so that it might have a chance to write messages to the hard disk before crashing, or you could try logging via network/serial line to another computer
[05:11] <durt> oh the menu and the wallpaper, have you restarted xfce, turicas?
[05:11] <getVOIPfromME> mkyb14: Topic says "Oct. 13th"
[05:11] <gamer6> neighborlee...thats where I'm at. it's telling me install wine but i don't know how
[05:11] <mkyb14> ?
[05:12] <FR500> hello
[05:12] <neighborlee> gamer6, im fairly sure wine is in synaptic
[05:12] <Skaja> i'm having trouble with my 56k modems
[05:12] <FR500> my webcam works now, i can test it in multimedia systems selector, but it's to dark, can i fix that?
[05:12] <neighborlee> gamer6, its a big topic though..I heaviliy suggest asking in #winehq as well...
[05:12] <beti5> hello im from philippines
[05:12] <DonL> gamer6, that's where I got wine
[05:12] <Hommm> is the realease of breezy important ? :)=
[05:12] <johndarkhorse> citrus_: if you could preface the persons nick when you speak to them, it'd make it easier
[05:12] <Turicas> durt, yes...in #xfce they told me the solution: close nautilus and run xfdesktop
[05:13] <johndarkhorse> citrus_: there are dozens of updates daily
[05:13] <Skaja> here is my trouble http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66202
[05:13] <durt> oh - nautilus...
[05:13] <citrus_> johndarkhorse: it was a general question  i wasn't looking for one person in peticular to answer me
[05:13] <beti5> my computer is stollen what can I do
[05:13] <gamer6> DonL...were you able to run games on it? i'm really confused
[05:13] <johndarkhorse> citrus_: ah
[05:14] <nathanel> beti5: call the police?
[05:14] <johndarkhorse> beti5: report it to the police
[05:14] <QMario> Are thoreauputic and Seveas here?
[05:14] <Quinthius> beti5: use your remote control to activate self destruct. you DID enable it right?
[05:14] <DonL> gamer6, I've never had much luck with wine. Some stuff works, some doesn't. I prefer native apps anyway
[05:14] <citrus_> johndarkhorse: thank you tho   i have been considering upgrading now that i "hear" its more stable
[05:14] <Skaja> if some took your pc then what are you using?
[05:14] <QMario> Hello svu!!! :)
[05:15] <durt> beti5: get a gun and shoot his ass
[05:15] <QMario> Durt, language.... :(
[05:15] <Hommm> bang
[05:15] <gamer6> DonL...thanks for the advice. But how would you install wine?
[05:15] <FR500> hello
[05:15] <FR500> how can i chenge my gtk1 themes
[05:15] <SuperTails92> gamer6: sudo apt-get install wine
[05:15] <SuperTails92> from universe
[05:15] <DonL> gamer6, I found it using synaptic
[05:16] <nathanel> gamer6: wine is avalable in universe
[05:16] <neighborlee> nathanel, and I thought I knew everything LOL...putting /var on syncronous mode is not something i've ever done and frankly I've  zero clue how to bring that about..readme possibly ??
[05:16] <fossa> hi. my wife tripped a fuse. i still can't configure the wireless!
[05:16] <neighborlee> nathanel, also no clue on the serial and computer option...im not that advanced of a user I'm afraid ;-)
[05:16] <todd_> neighborlee, it still doesnt seem to work
[05:16] <gamer6> SuperTails92...do i type it on the terminal?
[05:17] <nathanel> neighborlee: just add the sync option to the partiion in your fstab. but this will make write access quite slow. see the mount and fstab manpage for details
[05:17] <neighborlee> todd_, does : lspci  give you output showing your sound card ?
[05:17] <todd_> it lists it in there, yea
[05:17] <fossa> i was going to reinstall hoary but the installer doesn't even see the wireless network. i know it's there b/c windows finds it immediately.
[05:17] <fossa> maybe hoary doesn't like the new hardware in this laptop
[05:18] <neighborlee> nathanel, gotcha
[05:18] <Versed> what laptop?
[05:18] <neighborlee> nathanel, thx
[05:18] <fossa> dell latitude - brand new
[05:18] <Hommm> ^@^PJFIF^@^A^A^A^@H^@H^@^@^GExif^@^@II*^@^H^@^@^@
[05:18] <Versed> I have a month or so new toshiba, was thinking about it.
[05:19] <getVOIPfromME> fossa: what model? I run the live cd on a D600 all the time
[05:19] <fossa> D610
[05:19] <LinuxJones> Hommm, that's uselfull
[05:19] <getVOIPfromME> fossa: whats the prob?
[05:19] <nathanel> neighborlee: if you want it faster, just get a decent syslog daemon and log things to another computer, if you have one available
[05:19] <todd_> gives me this: "0000:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4 -L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[05:19] <todd_> " in lspci
[05:19] <Hommm> LinuxJones, it's zombie time`!
[05:20] <LinuxJones> Hommm, rolf
[05:20] <Hommm> LinuxJones, david
[05:20] <fossa> network controller: intel corp/pro wireless 2200bg (rev 05)
[05:20] <fossa> i want to configure that ^ wireless interface
[05:20] <Hommm> one jones... a moment
[05:21] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello everyone....
[05:21] <todd_> should i try reinstalling my sound card driver?
[05:21] <LinuxJones> Hommm, please don't do it again
[05:21] <Hommm> LinuxJones, ok, i need free space ?
[05:22] <Hommm> LinuxJones, ok, i need free space !
[05:22] <LinuxJones> Hommm, it's almost kick/ban time !
[05:22] <Inf3ctedFx> Hello
[05:22] <Cody`> can anyone explain why my crossover office install fails?
[05:22] <Hommm> LinuxJones, give me a channel were can talk?
[05:23] <Cody`> the configuration part of the installer gives a wine error
[05:23] <administrator_> hi
[05:23] <Hommm> admin
[05:23] <administrator_> hgjh
[05:23] <Skaja> i used google and ubuntu mailing list still no help
[05:23] <irish> jkl.jk
[05:24] <neighborlee> nathanel, assuming that was also in my grasp to do im wondering if this is going to help at all...I suspect bad ram problems..I hoped 'badram' patch would fix it but..ie: memtest shows problems ;((
[05:24] <irish> hi
[05:24] <LinuxJones> Hommm, about what ?
[05:24] <irish> can sex with you all!
[05:24] <Hommm> some free space chatin Linux
[05:24] <fossa> where'd my network config helpers go!
[05:24] <Inf3ctedFx> I just install Ubuntu, I motice this distro use the same Debian Package system, but I want to make sure if I have everything Up-to-day.. I mean the apt pakages... do I have to add some URL on the Apt ?
[05:25] <LinuxJones> Hommm, that's what this channel si for
[05:25] <Hommm> about sex on the net!
[05:25] <todd_> is there something im suppose to do sound-wise right after initial installation of ubuntu?
[05:25] <Inf3ctedFx> do I have to add some URL in my source.list??
[05:25] <todd_> besides unmuting everything
[05:25] <Cody`> when you click configure now on the installer, it says Crossover office setup failed to gather information on your system due to a wine error.
[05:25] <Cody`> retry just fails
[05:25] <Hommm> LinuxJones,
[05:25] <LinuxJones> Seveas, johndarkhorse : ping
[05:26] <nathanel> neighborlee: did you try to change memory timings in BIOS already?
[05:26] <Skaja> what is com 4 in linux?
[05:26] <neighborlee> nathanel, nope..assuming my bios   can do that
[05:26] <neighborlee> nathanel, I can check
[05:27] <Inf3ctedFx> Ppl, do I really have to uncomment the following lines to get updates?  :   ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network
[05:27] <Inf3ctedFx> # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted
[05:27] <fossa> will breezy include support for my wireless card?
[05:27] <naked31> perhaps?
[05:27] <wasabi__> what is your wireless card?
[05:27] <tga> interesting.. evo-data-server seems to go wild for about 5 minutes after startup, then it calms down
[05:27] <fossa> network controller: intel corp/pro wireless 2200bg (rev 05)
[05:27] <LinuxJones> naked31, please leave
[05:27] <wasabi__> bg?
[05:27] <wasabi__> what is it.
[05:27] <wasabi__> a 54g?
[05:27] <tga> anyone experiencing high cpu load when starting Evolution on Breezy?
[05:28] <wasabi__> There is no Linux support for 54g cards natively at all (well, not fully anyways).
[05:28] <fossa> dunno
[05:28] <wasabi__> There is NDIS.
[05:28] <gamer6> how do you save a file using nano?
[05:28] <nathanel> tga: what version?
[05:28] <tga> gamer6, ctrl+x, yes
[05:28] <apokryphos> johndarkhorse: another charming memeber? Heh.
[05:29] <tga> nathanel, I'm having this problem on hoary, 2.2.1.1
[05:29] <Skaja> whats new in 5.10
[05:30] <nathanel> tga: i'm running breezy here. installing evolution atm to try out...
[05:30] <gamer6> it says .... permission denied
[05:30] <nathanel> gamer6: waht file did you try to edit?
[05:31] <LinuxJones> johndarkhorse, can you also ban naken31 please !!
[05:31] <Inf3ctedFx> how can I update my apt-source.list?
[05:31] <Inf3ctedFx> what is the command to update?
[05:31] <apokryphos> LinuxJones: what's the problem?
[05:31] <gamer6> soource.list
[05:31] <naked31> update what
[05:31] <tga> nathanel, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8740 .. see if you run into this
[05:31] <naked31> sudo
[05:31] <gamer6> source.list i'm working as root
[05:31] <LinuxJones> apokryphos, he's a drunken/blathering/spamming idiot
[05:31] <Inf3ctedFx> I remember in Debian I use to run a command like apt-upgrade or something like that
[05:32] <naked31> LinuxJones, stop flooding
[05:32] <nathanel> tga: buy a laptop :)
[05:32] <tga> Inf3ctedFx, you upgrade your system with sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:32] <apokryphos> naked31: he's not flooding
[05:32] <Inf3ctedFx> thx tga
[05:32] <KanRiNiN> hey, how do I find out where apt get installs stuff to?  I installed VLS, videolanserver, but I can't find the directory to edit the config files
[05:32] <naked31> thx apokryphos
[05:32] <tga> nathanel, I'm using my lappy outside and I'd surely like all this heat to be pumped up through the keys :)
[05:32] <LinuxJones> naked31, go to bed you drunkard
[05:33] <Inf3ctedFx> and someone knows how can I get the laters version of firefox?? is apt-get install firefox?
[05:33] <apokryphos> LinuxJones: please don't feed; that won't do any good.
[05:33] <naked31> no bed, just upgrade
[05:33] <tga> Inf3ctedFx, upgrading your system with apt-get or with the upgrade manager will keep you up to date with the stable version of Ubuntu
[05:33] <LinuxJones> apokryphos, I know it's just frustrating :)
[05:33] <nathanel> gamer6: obviously you aren't root. try 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'
[05:33] <Inf3ctedFx> thx tga  again
[05:34] <tga> np
[05:34] <johndarkhorse> KanRiNiN: /var/cache/apt/archive
[05:34] <Versed> go onto firefox's website, usually it detects the OS you are using and has a download button
[05:34] <naked31> LinuxJones, babarian
[05:34] <KanRiNiN> thanks johndarkhorse
[05:34] <Inf3ctedFx> tga:  which one is the upgrade manager?
[05:34] <apokryphos> naked31: none of that, pelase.
[05:34] <apokryphos> s/pelase/please
[05:34] <tga> Inf3ctedFx, System -> Administration -> Update Manager
[05:34] <Inf3ctedFx> thx
[05:35] <tga> Versed, that's only if you want to install stuff (gasp) by hand
[05:35] <KanRiNiN> hmm directory is empy johndarkhorse .  any search tools?
[05:35] <gamer6> thanks, it work... =)
[05:35] <Versed> I haven't done it under ubuntu but have done it under fedora, suse and mandrake.
[05:36] <Versed> shouldn't be different
[05:36] <MachineScrew> where are the j2re packages
[05:36] <dooglus> I just booted breezy and saw a screenful of error messages scroll past during the boot.  Are they logged anywhere?  I'd like to raise a bug about them.
[05:36] <TokenBad> in ubuntu what was command to install deb packages again?
[05:36] <Versed> btw, doesn't it update on the prompts when you boot up?
[05:36] <MachineScrew> the w32codecs
[05:36] <dooglus> MachineScrew: sun.com
[05:36] <Versed> heck it even upgraded to a new xchat.
[05:37] <MachineScrew> what happened to the repos
[05:37] <nathanel> tga: nope, cpu usage 0%
[05:37] <getVOIPfromME> TokenBad: dpkg -i name.deb
[05:37] <dooglus> where are the boot-time screen messages logged to please?
[05:38] <tga> nathanel, that's good news I guess
[05:38] <MachineScrew> dooglus: also java.com but I was trying to get them from the repo accordance to the Ubuntu User guide on restricted formats
[05:38] <tga> nathanel, try importing some mail in it maybe
[05:38] <tga> nathanel, it might try to index my locally stored mail or something
[05:38] <dooglus> MachineScrew: oh, I don't know.  I got mine from sun.
[05:38] <gamer6> when i ran apt-get update it gave me 'Malfunction in Line 28 source-list
[05:38] <MachineScrew> damn it
[05:39] <gamer6> when i ran apt-get update it gave me 'Malfunction in Line 28 source.list
[05:40] <nathanel> gamer6: then look what you wrote in line 28 and correct it
[05:40] <getVOIPfromME> gamer6: take a look at line 28 in /etc/apt/ces.list
[05:40] <Inf3ctedFx> does anyone knows where can I donwload the Black theme for Xchat?
[05:40] <getVOIPfromME> gamer6: take a look at line 28 in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:40] <MachineScrew> can any one tell me whats going on with the repos
[05:40] <apokryphos> naked31: if you haven't done so already, please check your /msg
[05:40] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: what's the problem?
[05:41] <MachineScrew> the repos are not showing j2re or w32codecs
[05:41] <todd_> if my sound card is recognized in lcpci that means its working correctly right?
[05:41] <naked31> apokryphos, ? i don't know
[05:42] <MachineScrew> I have backports and extras, universe, multiverse, and restricted
[05:42] <apokryphos> naked31: ok, nevermind, just check this:
[05:42] <apokryphos> !coc
[05:42] <ubotu> I heard coc is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/
[05:42] <naked31> apokryphos, i will read it.
[05:42] <apokryphos> Thanks
[05:43] <kairu0> which package is glxgears/glxinfo in??
[05:43] <MachineScrew> can any one tell me whats going on with the repos
[05:43] <tritium> kairu0, dpkg -S /usr/bin/glxinfo to find out
[05:43] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: what do you mean?
[05:44] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: jre is no longer in hoary-extras; it was taken out for legal reasons.
[05:44] <gamer6> i got it corrected, but i got "Coould not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock -open (13 permission denied)
[05:44] <apokryphos> w32codecs used to be in there, but might well not be anymore. I'll check, actually.
[05:44] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: what about w32codec
[05:44] <MachineScrew> ok
[05:44] <getVOIPfromME> gamer6: close Synaptic
[05:45] <Hikaru79> It's quite easy to convert to NTFS from FAT32, but does anyone know if it is possible to convert an NTFS drive to FAT32 without any data loss?
[05:45] <Garlek> Hi, can some one tell me if I install the breezy version in test mode, i'll need to reinstall ubuntu when the final version will come out, or i can only make a update?
[05:45] <nathanel> tga: just imported 400 MB of mails and still 0% cpu when idle
[05:46] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: looks like it was taken out
[05:46] <Hikaru79> Garlek, you can just make an update. Versions are easy to update amongst themselves.
[05:46] <tritium> Garlek, you can update
[05:46] <serfurj> how would i go about upgrading only my kernel to breezy?
[05:46] <Garlek> :) thx
[05:46] <_rb_> where do i get the php5 cgi thing from with apt-get. what do i need to request
[05:46] <MachineScrew> damn
[05:46] <nathanel> tga: evolution-data-server is at version 1.4 in breezy
[05:46] <Hikaru79> serfurj, change sources.list to breezy, update your kernel, and change back?
[05:46] <MachineScrew> well there gose my day
[05:47] <Jumpingmanjim> breezy badgers
[05:47] <apokryphos> Hm, he didn't wait for me to tell him workaround...
[05:47] <serfurj> Hikaru79: ok, thought maybe there was a better way.. thanks
[05:47] <nybble> serfurj: what Hikaru said
[05:47] <Jumpingmanjim> hi guys
[05:47] <tritium> serfurj, there will be other dependencies that will be pulled in
[05:47] <sweetleah> hi guys
[05:48] <nybble> hi sweetleah
[05:48] <gamer6> i already did, but its still giving the same message plus "Unable to lock the list directory"
[05:48] <serfurj> tritium: yeah, that's happened before and i was unable to downgrade those dependencies
[05:48] <LinuxJones> sweetleah, welcome
[05:49] <tritium> serfurj, so the short answer is that you can't just upgrade the kernel package
[05:49] <sweetleah> thanks guys
[05:49] <earth1> elow
[05:50] <Jumpingmanjim> what are we all talking about?
[05:50] <earth1> sex
[05:50] <Jumpingmanjim> badger sex????
[05:50] <Jumpingmanjim> lol
[05:50] <Hikaru79> yes. dirty badger sex.
[05:50] <nybble> the effect of linux use on the mating rituals of badgers
[05:50] <sweetleah> hmmmmmmmmmmmm?what!
[05:50] <Inf3ctedFx> DOes anyone knows where can I get the Black theme on Xchat?
[05:50] <tritium> watch it, earth1
[05:50] <Hikaru79> And then there's always installing Linux on dead badgers: http://www.strangehorizons.com/2004/20040405/badger.shtml
[05:51] <sweetleah> what black?black o bloked?
[05:51] <Jumpingmanjim> xchat sucks, use gaim
[05:51] <Jumpingmanjim> i uninstalled xchat
[05:51] <Jumpingmanjim> fluxbox w00t
[05:51] <nybble> yes, i installed breezy on a badger
[05:51] <nybble> worked niceley
[05:51] <earth1> her
[05:51] <dooglus> Hikaru79: how do you convert from FAT32 to NTFS?
[05:51] <Jumpingmanjim> poor thing
[05:51] <Inf3ctedFx> xchat comes whit a white background theme.. use to have a black background theme
[05:51] <earth1> type convert
[05:51] <Hikaru79> dooglus, windows includes a "convert.exe" file that does it painlessly and safely.
[05:51] <Hikaru79> So just type 'convert'
[05:51] <nathanel> Inf3ctedFx: google, keywords "xchat themes black", 4th entry: http://www.xchat.org/files/themes/blacktheme.zip
[05:51] <Jumpingmanjim> ban for mentioning windows
[05:51] <Inf3ctedFx> I know there is one... but I dont remember where it is
[05:51] <nybble> dooglus: join #windows
[05:51] <Inf3ctedFx> thx nathanel
[05:52] <dooglus> Hikaru79: oh reallu?  I never heard of that.
[05:52] <dooglus> nybble: why?
[05:52] <Carpe_Libertatem> Hmm, almost everytime I boot Breezy there are updates. Should I be getting so many? :-P
[05:52] <nybble> lol
[05:52] <nybble> dooglus: for windows support
[05:52] <nybble> lol
[05:52] <Hikaru79> Carpe_Libertatem, yes, since it is still a month away from release. The devs are scrambling to fix all the packages ;)
[05:52] <Luna-Tick> Hello everyone. I am using Breezy, what is the package to get vorbis support in XMMS? I have looked through all that have either word in their descriptions to no avail. It is like the package is missing from the repos...
[05:52] <gamer6> getVOIPfromME... i already did, but its still giving the same message plus "Unable to lock the list directory"
[05:53] <Hikaru79> gamer6, what are you tring to do?
[05:53] <Jumpingmanjim> i would like some free breezy badgers shipped to my house
[05:54] <Jumpingmanjim> ZOMG kubuntu, but where is fluxbox support?
[05:54] <gamer6> i'm trying to apply apt-get update, then i get that message. i'm working on the sources.list file
[05:54] <naked31> Goodbye and Good Luck
[05:54] <Hikaru79> gamer6, do you have synaptic open somewhere?
[05:54] <fossa> getting hoary to run this intel wireless thing is a bitch
[05:54] <gamer6> i added the wine script to it
[05:55] <todd_> guys, im afraid its back to windows for me, this sound just isnt working.
[05:55] <gamer6> i closed it from the GUI
[05:55] <Hikaru79> gamer6, you can't use apt-get on the commandline if synaptic is open, because you might start conflicting things. Make sure synaptic is closed before you run sudo apt-get update
[05:55] <nathanel_> re
[05:55] <todd_> :-(
[05:55] <Hikaru79> (and make sure you run apt-get update with sudo. you need root)
[05:55] <tritium> todd_, what's the sound issue?
[05:56] <todd_> recognizes sound card, unmuted everything, still nothing
[05:56] <todd_> running on a gateway 4540gz laptop
[05:56] <todd_> intel 82801 ich4 card
[05:56] <Hikaru79> gamer6, did that work?
[05:58] <tritium> todd_, that should be supported...
[05:58] <todd_> funny thing is the first time i had installed ubuntu (from windows), the sound worked.  but after i had it running for a few weeks i decided to try suse.  from then on no sound
[05:58] <tritium> todd_, in fact, that's what I have
[05:58] <citrosack> ?
[05:58] <gamer6> the key was the sudo word. i ran it but i typed sudo apt-get install wine, it states that it was already obsolete, or something
[05:59] <todd_> *sigh*
[05:59] <Luna-Tick> I am using Breezy, what is the package to get vorbis support in XMMS? I have looked through all that have either word in their descriptions to no avail. I am trying to determine whether a package is missing from the repos so that I can file the bug. Is nobody using Vorbis in XMMS? Even if you are in Hoary it would be a help to know the name.
[05:59] <gamer6> would you know where i can get wine?
[05:59] <Hikaru79> gamer6, which version of Ubuntu are you running?
[05:59] <todd_> i followed some of the guidelines in the ubuntu startup guide, does that change anything?
[06:00] <tritium> gamer6, universe
[06:00] <todd_> sound-wise
[06:00] <tritium> todd_, which guidelines?  Please be specific.  Your sound should just work immediately after install.
[06:00] <gamer6> 5.04
[06:00] <todd_> i added extra repos
[06:01] <todd_> and "configured sound to work with gnome" as it says in the guide
[06:01] <todd_> thought that might help
[06:01] <kristinne> haller!!
[06:01] <kristinne> anybody home?
[06:01] <Carpe_Libertatem> Is there anything like expose available in Ubuntu repos?
[06:01] <gamer6> tritium...i'm just new to this I would like to get assistance from the experts themselves. Y, can you help me? I'd appreciate it
[06:02] <kristinne> are u all americans??
[06:02] <tritium> kristinne, please stay on topic
[06:03] <tritium> gamer6, make sure you have the universe repo enabled, and then update your package list, and finally install wine
[06:03] <todd_> are there any diagnostics i can perform to test my sound?
[06:04] <dooglus> kristinne: please ask ubuntu questions.  we much prefer ignoring ubuntu questions than questions about our nationalities.
[06:04] <tritium> todd_, you can make sure the proper modules are loaded.  You can look at the output of dmesg, and you can view your system logs
[06:04] <Hikaru79> but just for the record, no we're not.
[06:05] <gamer6> from where can i enable that universe repo
[06:05] <kristinne> robotz ba kayo??
[06:05] <Carpe_Libertatem> kristinne, if you want to chat, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:05] <tritium> ubotu, tell gamer6 about repositories
[06:05] <todd_> where are the system logs located?
[06:05] <Hikaru79> I have the following line in my dmesg output, is this normal? : [4294693.322000]  nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
[06:05] <gigaclon> !repos
[06:05] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:05] <tritium> todd_, /var/log
[06:05] <Hikaru79> What does it mean by 'taints kernel' o_O; Is that a joke?
[06:06] <kristinne> saan ako pupunta??
[06:06] <todd_> thanks
[06:06] <kristinne> kapag gus2 ko makipag chat
[06:06] <tritium> kristinne, please, we're not speaking tagalog here
[06:06] <kristinne> haller any boddy home??
[06:06] <kristinne> ok
[06:07] <nathanel> Luna-Tick: the ogg vorbis decoder is already included in the xmms package as far as i see
[06:08] <Luna-Tick> Nath: Thanks. The xmms package states that it is a plugin and, when I try to play one, it says that no plugin is recognised
[06:08] <Luna-Tick> But if that is the case then I can safely file a bug on the issue
[06:08] <Luna-Tick> I didn't want to look a complete idiot
[06:08] <kristinne> hi
[06:08] <nathanel> Luna-Tick: look in the preferences in the audio i/o tab
[06:09] <kristinne> ???
[06:09] <kristinne> what's the tpic in here?
[06:09] <regeya> oboy
[06:09] <regeya> hey everybody it's the weekend again
[06:09] <nathanel> Luna-Tick: maybe the music file is damaged? did you already try another player
[06:09] <nathanel> Luna-Tick: ?
[06:09] <tritium> kristinne, type /topic
[06:09] <titanium> running proftpd and some people can't connect... checked the system log, should it be saying "localhost.localdomain" for the server's address, or should it have my external ip?
[06:09] <fossa> how am i supposed to compile the tools and drivers necessary to set up my internet connection if i need to apt-get the compilers?
[06:09] <fossa> this sucks
[06:09] <cyphase> when, if ever, is ubuntu going to be able to play dvd's out of the box?
[06:10] <Luna-Tick> nath: checking through
[06:10] <regeya> cyphase, never unless a lot of things change.
[06:10] <tritium> fossa, what do you need to compile?
[06:10] <cyphase> *sigh* i hate the RIAA
[06:10] <cyphase> and the MPAA
[06:10] <regeya> cyphase, me too.
[06:10] <JustSteve> just switched to Hoary A64, does anyone know if the clipboard daemon works ?
[06:10] <cyphase> and Microsoft for joining them
[06:10] <fossa> wireless tools, then the driver, then the firmware
[06:10] <tritium> which driver?
[06:11] <fossa> ieee80211
[06:11] <tritium> And why would you compile wireless tools?
[06:11] <fossa> the instructions say so
[06:11] <fossa> http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/
[06:11] <cyphase> if not out of the box, then at all..
[06:11] <regeya> cyphase, I have a DVD drive and more than one licensed player, yet I break the law if I play a DVD on my Linux system.  I manage to break laws by doing that. I purchased the drive, paid for the software with the drive, and purchased the dvd.
[06:11] <tritium> fossa, there are ipw2200 drivers already
[06:11] <regeya> meh.
[06:11] <cyphase> i know
[06:11] <cyphase> it sucks
[06:11] <KaiL> ah, here's somebody alive ;)
[06:11] <fossa> where?
[06:12] <SPCCrow> !info nmap
[06:12] <ubotu> nmap: (The Network Mapper), section net, is extra. Version: 3.75-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 548 kB, Installed size: 1840 kB
[06:12] <fossa> i'mrunning hoary . does that make a difference?
[06:12] <tritium> fossa, modules are under /lib/modules/`uname -r`
[06:12] <todd_> tritium, what am i looking for in dmesg?
[06:12] <KaiL> some f*cking SiS onboard sound here, which doesn't want me...
[06:12] <tritium> fossa, well, ipw2200 support is better under breezy
[06:12] <KaiL> /proc/asound/cards just says "no cards"...
[06:12] <tritium> todd_, messages regarding your sound chip
[06:13] <todd_> tritium, i didnt see it listed anywhere
[06:13] <todd_> nor in the syslog
[06:13] <cyphase> hopefully linux will gain enough market share that the RIAA/MPAA will be to greedy to ignore
[06:13] <cyphase> hopefully..
[06:13] <tritium> todd_, look in /proc/asound also
[06:13] <KaiL> with hoary alsa cries like hell, with breezy it doesn't cry at least...
[06:13] <Agrajag> cyphase: why does the RIAA even come into this?
[06:14] <cyphase> they're the same kind of organization as the MPAA
[06:14] <cyphase> except for music
[06:14] <KaiL> oh, and is IDE very slow with SiS chipsets?
[06:14] <todd_> tritium, there seems to be a folder for my card in asound
[06:14] <Agrajag> cyphase: they have yet to pt out an encrypted CD
[06:14] <tritium> todd_, there should be.
[06:14] <todd_> am i looking for anything specifically?
[06:14] <Luna-Tick> Nathanel: For goodness sakes, all the vorbis files happened to be renamed; the 'no input plugin for this type of file' actually means 'could not find the file'. Silly coincidences.... Thanks for your help. Problem solved.
[06:15] <durt> dont fight regeya
[06:15] <cyphase> Agrajag, i know
[06:15] <tritium> todd_, please lsmod | grep snd
[06:15] <nathanel> Luna-Tick: np
[06:15] <Luna-Tick> cios
[06:15] <Luna-Tick> ciao
[06:15] <regeya> heh
[06:15] <nathanel> cu
[06:15] <nitinshantharam>  whats the proper chmod command to give users and apache read/write access to all files in a dir?
[06:15] <Luna-Tick> 777
[06:15] <Agrajag> 666
[06:15] <todd_> tritium, snd_intel8x0           30016  1
[06:15] <todd_> snd_ac97_codec         71804  1 snd_intel8x0
[06:15] <todd_> snd_pcm_oss            46368  0
[06:15] <todd_> snd_mixer_oss          16128  1 snd_pcm_oss
[06:15] <todd_> snd_pcm                78344  3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
[06:15] <todd_> snd_timer              21764  1 snd_pcm
[06:15] <todd_> snd                    48644  8 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[06:15] <Agrajag> 777 is read, write, and execute
[06:15] <cyphase> chmod -R 777 /path/to/directory
[06:15] <todd_> soundcore               9184  1 snd
[06:15] <todd_> snd_page_alloc         10120  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
[06:16] <tritium> todd_, please don't paste here!
[06:16] <nitinshantharam> cyphase: thats pretty insecure.. isnt it?
[06:16] <johndarkhorse> todd_: do not paste in here
[06:16] <cyphase> chmod -R 666 /path/to/directory *
[06:16] <todd_> woops! sorry guys
[06:16] <cyphase> without the asterisk :)
[06:16] <titanium> anyone know why, on an ftp i've set up, everyone can download, and some people can upload, but others can't upload? their clients pause at "PORT <ip address>,<port>" and do nothing further.
[06:16] <nitinshantharam> cyphase: apache says forbidden now
[06:17] <durt> omp: or you can make 50,000 of your own ;)
[06:17] <durt> anyone know the arguments to "lpr" that prevent margins from being added in?
[06:18] <cyphase> nitinshantharam, that's why i do 777
[06:18] <nitinshantharam> cyphase: alright, alright
[06:18] <KaiL> ..nobody with SiS? ;)
[06:18] <todd_> tritium, sorry, im fairly new to linux.  what am i looking for in lsmod?
[06:19] <tritium> todd_, those modules you pasted.  They're loaded ;)
[06:19] <frank_b> anyone here knows what's the story about "24 bit" in cedega?
[06:20] <jbert> KaiL, no problem here
[06:20] <nathanel> titanium: strange... maybe the server tries to make a reverse dns lookup or something before allowing certain actions?
[06:20] <todd_> tritium, my laptop is still silent though  :(
[06:21] <KaiL> jbert, good for you - you don't use Fujitsu-Siemens shit ;)
[06:21] <titanium> nathanel: any suggestions on what might be blocking it or what i might want to allow on my router?
[06:21] <tritium> todd_, you're sure nothing is muted?
[06:21] <jbert> KaiL, only sony :)
[06:22] <todd_> tritium, everything is unmuted and turned up in alsamixer
[06:22] <todd_> tritium, where else should i be looking?
[06:22] <nathanel> titanium: are those always the same persons or does that happen randomly?
[06:23] <tritium> todd_, not sure
[06:23] <titanium> nathanel: only one person who can't upload, everyone else can
[06:23] <todd_> tritium, ok, well i really appreciate all your help :D
[06:24] <tritium> sure, sorry
[06:24] <nathanel> titanium: is that person also behind a firewall/router?
[06:24] <titanium> nathanel: yes but he assures me he can upload and such elsewhere with no problems
[06:24] <_rb_> where is the php5 ini file likely to be in ubuntu ?
[06:26] <tritium> _rb_, dpkg  -S php5, if that's the package name
[06:26] <nathanel> titanium: can you connect to the server using passive mode from outside?
[06:26] <h4zn__> how can i use ie on ubuntu?
[06:26] <_rb_> k
[06:26] <titanium> nathanel: yes, i've had 5 or 6 people try. also it's noteworthy that he can connect but not transfer files to me, but he can download from me fine.
[06:26] <tritium> _rb_, it should be in /etc, most likely
[06:26] <johndarkhorse> h4zn__: i know you're kidding, right?
[06:26] <badphotoneedhelp> I hate to ask in here, but #gimp's dead.  Anyone know if it's possible to remove moire created by a scanner with a filter?
[06:27] <h4zn__> no...i hate it...but i have to use it for something
[06:27] <johndarkhorse> h4zn__: platform spoofing wont suffice?
[06:27] <h4zn__> how do you do that?
[06:27] <blackmack_22> hi
[06:27] <titanium> nathanel: apparently he just fixed it by recreating the bookmark he had to my site. weird :/
[06:28] <h4zn__> johndarkhorse, ho do i do that?
[06:28] <h4zn__> *how
[06:28] <tritium> h4zn__, you can run ie under wine
[06:28] <nathanel> titanium: ouch. :/
[06:29] <johndarkhorse> h4zn__: ask uncle google about "user agent strings"
[06:29] <tritium> h4zn__, it's easy to setup with the wine and winetools packages from www.winehq.com
[06:29] <titanium> oh well, at least it works now. thanks for helping. know if there is an easy way to check the file transfer speed in proftpd? :)
[06:29] <h4zn__> okay
[06:29] <judax> h4zn__, crossover office works well
[06:29] <johndarkhorse> h4zn__: and also "user agent browser spoofing"
[06:30] <johndarkhorse> h4zn__: if you dont need a specific feature of ie, i wouldn't use it
[06:30] <nathanel> titanium: np. sorry, i don't have any proftp experience :(
[06:30] <h4zn__> i dont like it...i use Firefox....i only need it for a specific thing
[06:30] <judax> ie has no specific features
[06:31] <h4zn__> a website requires it
[06:31] <johndarkhorse> h4zn__: i suspect that changing your user agent string in firefox to say "i am internet explorer" would suffice to get you what you want
[06:31] <dr_willis> Ive seen a rare FEW sites that actually need IE.
[06:31] <dr_willis> one i can think of is MS update :P
[06:31] <judax> website problem, not following standards and coding to a crappy app
[06:31] <dr_willis> some demand Ie. :P but dont really need it.
[06:32] <nathanel> badphotoneedhelp: you cold try to apply gaussian blur carefully.
[06:32] <johndarkhorse> dr_willis: the ones that demand it are usually satisfied with a satisfactory user agent string
[06:32] <tritium> h4zn__, just install wine and winetools, then, and setup ie under winetools
[06:32] <dr_willis> johndarkhorse,  yea - i was thinking Opera had a easy menu item to do it.
[06:33] <h4zn__> oaky
[06:34] <mpm2> anyone know pascal?
[06:34] <h4zn__> how do i open Synaptic
[06:34] <johndarkhorse> !tell h4zn__ about synaptic
[06:35] <gigaclon> johndarkhorse, what would you need to put in the user agent to fool them
[06:36] <titanium> take it easy dudes
[06:37] <johndarkhorse> gigaclon: usually something that says "internet explorer 6.6" or something
[06:37] <dr_willis> or install Opera and use their menu item :P
[06:37] <johndarkhorse> gigaclon: ask uncle google about "user agent strings" you'll find plenty to choose from
[06:38] <badphotoneedhelp> nathanel, thanks, but I don't know if that'll be enough.  I sent a pm with the picture on it.
[06:43] <dr_willis> inserting XXX spam into the server logs again?
[06:46] <gyoza_> How could I disable IP6?
[06:46] <dr_willis> hmm.. ive seen that mentioned on the ubuntu forums - need to do it myself
[06:47] <nathanel> badphotoneedhelp: hm, didn't get any pm? how did you send it?
[06:48] <badphotoneedhelp> nathanel, I just used /msg
[06:49] <nathanel> badphotoneedhelp: did you register your nick with nickserv?
[06:49] <badphotoneedhelp> no, is that the problem?
[06:49] <nathanel> badphotoneedhelp: on freenode you need to do this to be able to send pm
[06:49] <h4zn__> what does this mean?
[06:49] <h4zn__> /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:49] <h4zn__> sorry wrong thing i mean this
[06:49] <thundr> okay
[06:50] <h4zn__> root@ubuntu:~ # gedit
[06:50] <h4zn__> (gedit:18881): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[06:50] <gyoza_> dr_willis, I read this: "To turn off ipv6 edit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and change: alias net-pf-10 ipv6 to: alias net-pf-10 off
[06:50] <crimsun> h4zn__: you're supposed to use ''gksudo gedit'' as a normal user
[06:50] <crimsun> h4zn__: don't invoke gedit as root
[06:51] <h4zn__> okay
[06:51] <jasoncohen> hello everyone. I just updated Hoary from Breezy and I see some excellent changes have been made. The only problem I'm having is that 2.6.12 gives me a kernel panic. I have to use 2.6.10. Anyone else seeing this issue with the 386 kernel?
[06:51] <tritium> jasoncohen, no, can you tell us more?
[06:51] <h4zn__> can anyone help me with installing wine?
[06:52] <tritium> h4zn__, are you installing from universe, or from winehq.com?
[06:52] <h4zn__> tritium,  winehq.com
[06:52] <tritium> h4zn__, did you follow this: http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb ?
[06:53] <thundrcleeze> nathanel, did you get it?
[06:53] <gnubie> hi guys. i need to ask something about networking.
[06:53] <TheBlue> Hi all.
[06:53] <h4zn__> tritium, yes...but i could not get the certain window
[06:53] <tritium> h4zn__, do as crimsun suggests
[06:53] <nathanel> thundrcleeze: yes. maybe there is something that could help... lemme try
[06:54] <gnubie> i have an old p133 box and that servers as internet router and dhcp server.
[06:54] <thundrcleeze> nathanel, okay, thanks.
[06:54] <h4zn__> i get the same error as when i out gedit
[06:54] <gnubie> everytime it reboots, the IP address of eth1 gets lost
[06:54] <TheBlue> Does anyone know where I'd be able to hunt down a couple of P1, 486, or 386 boxen?
[06:55] <tritium> h4zn__, sounds like your interface is not set to "auto"
[06:55] <h4zn__> how do i do that?
[06:55] <tritium> I mean gnubie, sorry
[06:55] <tritium> h4zn__, you shouldn't get that error using gksudo
[06:56] <gnubie> tritium, where do i configure that?
[06:56] <h4zn__> well i do...
[06:56] <tritium> gnubie, /etc/network/interfaces.  man interfaces for more details
[06:56] <FR500> hello
[06:56] <jasoncohen> tritium, sorry, i didn't copy down the exact error
[06:56] <tritium> there's also a gui tool, gnubie
[06:56] <gnubie> i'm actually looking at that /etc/network/interfaces now.
[06:56] <tritium> h4zn__, which command  are you using?
[06:57] <gnubie> i don't have a gui on the server box
[06:57] <FR500> i have a question, there is a java web interface i use, but it looks very bad in gnome, on the other hand, it looks very good on enlightment, why is that and how can i make it look the way it looks on enlightment on gnome
[06:57] <h4zn__> tritium, ???
[06:57] <FR500> it's a browser applet
[06:57] <jasoncohen> tritium, i changed my sources.list and changed all instances of hoary to breezy and then did a dist-upgrade in synaptic which upgraded about 1280 packages. I restarted and 2.6.12 gave a kernel panic. 2.6.10 works fine and there are no other errors
[06:57] <h4zn__> what do you mean what command?>
[06:57] <tritium> gnubie, is there a line that says auto eth1 anywhere?
[06:57] <crimsun> jasoncohen: where is the panic?
[06:57] <tritium> h4zn__, e.g., "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:58] <gnubie> tritium, yeah, there is.
[06:58] <bz0b> h4zn__, what is up man
[06:58] <FR500> anyone?
[06:58] <hussam> I'm getting this error on breezy before usplash starts ( so it is before hotplug starts ). it didn't happen in Hoary. can somebody take a look at this http://pastebin.com/366847 so I can know if it is a bug or not?
[06:58] <h4zn__> hey bz0b
[06:58] <h4zn__> trying to install wine
[06:58] <bz0b> h4zn__, sudo apt-get install wine
[06:58] <johndarkhorse> FR500: "anyone?" is not a productive question
[06:59] <jasoncohen> crimsun, a few seconds after i choose 2.6.12 in grub
[06:59] <bz0b> h4zn__, or do you need to configure it?
[06:59] <FR500> johndarkhorse: i asked some lines ago
[06:59] <FR500> sorry
[06:59] <jasoncohen> crimsun, let me see if anything is logged
[06:59] <nathanel> thundrcleeze: is this the full resolution or do you have a higher resolution version to work with?
[06:59] <gnubie> tritium, there's eth1 but no "auto"
[06:59] <crimsun> jasoncohen: need the context and decoded ksymoops
[06:59] <h4zn__> bz0b, ..working....
[06:59] <tritium> gnubie, you need "auto" for it to come up automatically on boot
[06:59] <h4zn__> thanks tritium
[06:59] <FR500> there is a java web interface i use, but it looks very bad in gnome, on the other hand, it looks very good on enlightment, why is that and how can i make it look the way it looks on enlightment on gnome
[06:59] <FR500> also, how can i make gtk1 apps look better, the gtk1 theme switcher doesnt really work
[07:00] <tritium> h4zn__, did you get it to work?
[07:00] <h4zn__> yes
[07:00] <tritium> gnubie, on a separate line from the line "iface eth1 inet dhcp"
[07:00] <tritium> h4zn__, good :)
[07:00] <gnubie> tritium, what i have is "iface eth1 inet static"
[07:01] <tritium> gnubie, okay, no problem
[07:01] <crimsun> hussam: does 8139too in fact work?
[07:01] <tritium> gnubie, just add another line that says "auto eth1"
[07:01] <bz0b> h4zn__, good job
[07:01] <gnubie> where do i add that?
[07:01] <yahalom> any of u guys using fglrx and breezy?
[07:02] <hussam> crimsun: I'm too scared to try 8139too. this is my only PC so I don't to ruin it.
[07:02] <tritium> gnubie, you can do it right above that line you have
[07:02] <crimsun> hussam: you can't ruin your PC by trying to modprobe 8139too. At worst, it'll just fail and you'll get an error message.
[07:02] <crimsun> hussam: Unless of course you're debugging over ssh.
[07:03] <gnubie> tritium, i see. i'll try it now.
[07:03] <hussam> crimsun: even it do load  8139too, the first driver will still be loaded so I would not know what driver is it using.
[07:03] <crimsun> hussam: 8139too should fail to load.
[07:03] <FR500> is there something like a java theme? in dr17 my java applets look way better than in gnome
[07:03] <gnubie> tritium, btw, instead of a reboot, how do i refresh the system?
[07:03] <hussam> crimsun: the first driver loads before hotplug starts
[07:03] <crimsun> hussam: if the first one's still loaded.
[07:03] <tritium> gnubie, refresh what?
[07:03] <crimsun> hussam: via what, /etc/modules?
[07:04] <hussam> crimsun: no, not in /etc/modules ( that's what's puzzling me )
[07:04] <gnubie> after i update the /etc/network/interfaces, how do i tell the OS that it should refresh it. i mean, instead of a reboot.
[07:05] <hussam> gnubie: try sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[07:05] <kakalto> does ubuntu support serial mice?
[07:05] <tritium> hussam, if you must, blacklist that module
[07:05] <crimsun> kakalto: yes
[07:05] <TheBlue> kakalto: I believe it does.
[07:06] <kakalto> 'cause it doesn't seem to work with my old serial trackball
[07:06] <nige> i cant get xorg to work with my 2 monitors :(
[07:06] <nige> any ideas?
[07:06] <hussam> tritium: what was the command to list pci devices?
[07:06] <tritium> hussam, lspci
[07:06] <dr_willis> nige,  depends on your video cards to a great extent
[07:07] <nige> okay
[07:07] <nige> I am using an ATI Radeon 9550
[07:07] <gnubie> tritium, i tried it. i ran ifconfig and eth1 doesn't have any ip address still
[07:07] <drummer87> hi all, how can i rotate my screen resolution? i have a monitor that can rotate 90 degrees to get a 'portrait size' and want the res to rotate as well for viewing images/reading manga
[07:07] <hussam> tritium: it won't list it under lspci
[07:07] <tritium> hussam, which?
[07:08] <hussam> tritium: the network card
[07:08] <mik3> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[07:08] <mik3> make: *** [powwow]  Error 1
[07:08] <mik3> ./usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lncurses
[07:08] <tritium> mik3, please don't paste
[07:08] <mik3> anyone know how to fix that?
[07:08] <FR500> there is a java web interface i use, but it looks very bad in gnome, on the other hand, it looks very good on enlightment, why is that and how can i make it look the way it looks on enlightment on gnome
[07:08] <gm78> mik3 install the libncurses-dev packages
[07:09] <mik3> ok thanks
[07:09] <tritium> mik3, sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[07:09] <tritium> you need the 5
[07:09] <gm78> tritium, oh, lol, forgot about that
[07:09] <tritium> gm78, no worries :)
[07:10] <omp> make: command not found
[07:10] <TheBlue> O.O
[07:10] <nige> omp apt-get install make
[07:11] <crimsun> omp: install build-essential
[07:11] <omp> oh =] 
[07:11] <omp> thanks
[07:11] <omp> i use gentoo as my main os, and just got breezy today for fun :)
[07:11] <durt> are there any gtk2 equivalents to gnome commander and its ilk?
[07:12] <deFrysk> omp, hopefully other way around soon ;p
[07:12] <omp> deFrysk: maybe :P
[07:12] <deFrysk> durt, gentoo
[07:13] <hussam> crimsun: if ispci doesn't list my network card, how can I be sure what driver it should use? All I know is that it is a realtek
[07:13] <crimsun> hussam: then it isn't a pci nic, as suspected since you're referring to 8139 and 8139too
[07:13] <gm78> OK, this isn't an issue on Hoary right now, but the CentOS people are jerks and this isn't a CentOS specific question so I'll ask here. (not all of them are bad...just most are). Is it possible to have GTK+2.4.x installed in /usr and GTK+2.6.x installed in /usr/local at the same time?
[07:13] <omp> the only thing keeping me at gentoo is portage :P
[07:14] <hussam> crimsun: no it is a PCI card. I installed it myslef
[07:14] <SPCCrow> !info nmap
[07:14] <ubotu> nmap: (The Network Mapper), section net, is extra. Version: 3.75-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 548 kB, Installed size: 1840 kB
[07:14] <crimsun> gm78: it's possible, but you'll end up with a mess. Why not just use 2.6?
[07:14] <crimsun> hussam: ok, then are you sure the BIOS is assigning resources to it?
[07:14] <TheBlue> I've noticed a "perky" repository while poking around in the Warty installer, could anyone tell me what that is?
[07:14] <SPCCrow> to install nmap i type "sudo apt-get install nmap" right?
[07:15] <karl_> anyone know how to get rid of the Dummy sound card in alsa? I think since it is card 0 programs are using it instead of my real card, number 1
[07:15] <crimsun> hussam: if lspci isn't listing it, then there must be a darned good reason
[07:15] <cafuego__> Perky Porcupine?
[07:15] <TheBlue> Yes.
[07:15] <TheBlue> Perky Porcupine.
[07:15] <kakalto> is there a mouse setting in the xorg.conf that I can change for serial?
[07:15] <TheBlue> What is it?
[07:15] <cafuego__> TheBlue: probably Ubuntu 6.04
[07:15] <TheBlue> Possibly, but breezy wasn't in the list.
[07:15] <durt> defryk, gentoo is just requires gtk1
[07:15] <gm78> crimsun, well my main desktop runs CentOS 4.1 and I don't want to switch to a new distro, but all of Gnome and everything is running on 2.4....I don't want to screw up the system by upgrading gtk
[07:15] <karl_> ....serial...mouse.....why?
[07:15] <TheBlue> It only had warty, hoary, grumpy, and perky.
[07:15] <deFrysk> durt, oops :s
[07:15] <crimsun> gm78: anything that runs on 2.4 should run on 2.6 without any changes
[07:15] <SPCCrow> !info nmapfe
[07:15] <ubotu> nmapfe: (The Network Mapper Front End), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 3.75-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 80 kB, Installed size: 196 kB
[07:16] <gm78> crimsun, with ubuntu this isn't an issue of course :P but red hat is very conservative with updating packages
[07:16] <TheBlue> !info perky
[07:16] <karl_> anyone know how to get rid of the Dummy sound card in alsa? I think since it is card 0 programs are using it instead of my real card, number 1
[07:16] <crimsun> gm78: it's the 2.6->2.8 transition that gets messy
[07:16] <gm78> crimsun, alright...thx for the info...i think ill just use partimage to back up my system before i much around
[07:16] <Jae> Hello.
[07:16] <gm78> crimsun, yeah...thats what i heard, which is why i am opting for 2.6
[07:16] <FR500> there is a java web interface i use, but it looks very bad in gnome, on the other hand, it looks very good on enlightment, why is that and how can i make it look the way it looks on enlightment on gnome, on both cases i used firefox
[07:17] <karl_> uhh////
[07:17] <karl_> it looked bad in gnome?
[07:17] <crimsun> FR500: screenshots of both?
[07:17] <karl_> its web based
[07:17] <TheBlue> Can no one tell me what Perky Porcupine is/
[07:17] <gm78> FR500, unless we know what the interface is...there is nothing we can do. most java apps blend in nicely with gnome nowadays...so it is probably a problem witht he plugin itself
[07:17] <cafuego__> !perky
[07:17] <ubotu> cafuego__: Bugger all, i dunno
[07:17] <karl_> TheBlue: wikipedia can
[07:17] <dr_willis> yea.. id have to see some screen shots
[07:17] <cafuego__> useless bot
[07:17] <Jae> Is 5.10 stable enough to install or should I go back for an older version?
[07:17] <FR500> crimsun: how can i send?
[07:17] <dr_willis> Jae,  using it right now. :P no real issues
[07:17] <cafuego__> Jae: How advanced a user are you?
[07:18] <crimsun> FR500: post them on the Web
[07:18] <dr_willis> you dont want to use it on a critical server  of course
[07:18] <dr_willis> Your Millage May Vary
[07:18] <Jae> Well..
[07:18] <Jae> Say I'm at the intermediate level of a novice.
[07:19] <gm78> crimsun, anyways, thx for your help...will attempt it in the next few days, gotta go to bed now tho :P
[07:19] <gm78> ttyl
[07:19] <TheBlue> Perky Penguin!
[07:19] <TheBlue> That's what Perky is.
[07:19] <cafuego__> Some things may not go quite right during installation. If you know how to resurrect a hung install, you'll probably be right.
[07:19] <durt> is there a way to make the fonts in gtk1 apps look smoother?
[07:19] <Jae> Like, still a novice, but I've had to slap a Linux distro around a bit to get it to function.
[07:19] <cafuego__> wibble
[07:19] <benplaut> what's the CLI command to lock screen?
[07:19] <hussam> crimsun: I posted about it in ubuntuforums.org and more than one person replied that they are getting the same error http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65823
[07:19] <cafuego__> ooher,special stuff.
[07:19] <benplaut> or activate xscreensaver?
[07:20] <cafuego__> benplaut: install and run 'lockvc'
[07:20] <hussam> crimsun: possibly an upgrade side effect?
[07:20] <FR500> durt: if you find a way let me know
[07:20] <benplaut> cafuego: thanks
[07:20] <crimsun> hussam: it's related to 'hotplug', but it's not critical.
[07:21] <benplaut> cafuego__: no, not to lot the termianl... to activate Xscreensaver
[07:21] <elDuarte> hi somebody!
[07:21] <kakalto> uhm...
[07:21] <benplaut> it's not working, so a console output might tell me something
[07:21] <cafuego__> benplaut: No idea
[07:21] <benplaut> bleh
[07:21] <hussam> crimsun: well the error comes out before hotplug initializes
[07:21] <hussam> crimsun: but it doesn't seem to be critical since networking seems to work
[07:22] <crimsun> hussam: k
[07:22] <kakalto> when I try to add a user, it comes up with "chown 1000:1000 /home/user: operation not permitted"
[07:22] <kakalto> would that be something to do with having a fat32 partition mounted at /home?
[07:23] <dr_willis> ewwwww
[07:23] <crimsun> kakalto: it sure would
[07:23] <yahalom> any ati ppl here?
[07:23] <dr_willis>  - /home on a vfat partition... thats asking for issues
[07:24] <johndarkhorse> dr_willis: issues of great fun to watch, tho
[07:24] <deFrysk>  /home on vfat is an interesting concept
[07:24] <deFrysk> should be patended
[07:24] <Sirrush> Hey I got an ATI Radeon
[07:25] <dr_willis> Sirrush,  yea. :P so
[07:26] <dr_willis> i followed the ubuntu wiki/guides and got my 9700pro working in about 4 min.
[07:26] <dr_willis> !binary
[07:26] <ubotu> Wish i knew, dr_willis
[07:26] <dr_willis> if i can rmeber the word. :P for the bot
[07:26] <Sirrush> Did I just say I got an ATI card?
[07:26] <Jae> Okay. Fajita time!
[07:26] <dr_willis> !ati
[07:26] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[07:26] <yahalom> dr_willis, breezy?
[07:26] <dr_willis> of course it may depend on the card
[07:27] <FR500> crimsun: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2285
[07:27] <dr_willis> yahalom,   i replaced that card with a Nvidia here.. got ati x200 on my laptop.. which i think is NOT supported by anything yet. :P
[07:27] <dr_willis> so i cant test breezy and ati yet.
[07:27] <Sirrush> BTW I decided to install Ubuntu for a class I am taking on linux, worked without a hitch and XFCE works great
[07:27] <yahalom> dr_willis, yeah i should just do that
[07:27] <dr_willis> Yea - for the $$ thers some dang nice nvidia cards out now
[07:27] <Strife> so, I just upgraded to Breezy, and I'm having trouble getting X to work again...
[07:28] <FR500> durt: found a way?
[07:28] <crimsun> FR500: ick, Swing?
[07:28] <dr_willis> now if nvidia would just make some inroads in the laptop market
[07:28] <FR500> crimsun: yes
[07:28] <johndarkhorse> dr_willis: i'd kinda like to get one of those nvidia cards with 512mb onboard and run gpulinux on it
[07:28] <Strife> basically, it has decided that it can't find the default font 'fixed'
[07:28] <crimsun> FR500: the SWT->GTK2 interface looks great
[07:28] <crimsun> FR500: and you should know better than to pirate the entire Dream Theater discography!
[07:28] <FR500> lol
[07:28] <durt> fr500, still looking, but i have to go to bed soon
[07:28] <crimsun> </off topic>
[07:28] <Strife> it suggests installing the package x-window-system and x-window-system-core, but both of these are already installed
[07:28] <dr_willis> johndarkhorse,  lol.. i got  one with 256 ram :P
[07:29] <FR500> crimsun: the one i sent was the one under enlightment
[07:29] <Kuolio> dr_willis: according to forums, radeon x200 works with breezy drivers (the lates from ati)
[07:29] <durt> fr500: im trying this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20976
[07:29] <FR500> the gnome one looks kinda bad
[07:29] <crimsun> FR500: imo that one looks bad
[07:29] <talios> crimsun, heh - how typical you'd get the support issue relating to prog ;p
[07:29] <crimsun> FR500: it's as if the antialiasing went way overboard
[07:29] <Kuolio> take a look on the second page of this forum post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=356455#post356455
[07:29] <crimsun> talios: 'course! ;)
[07:30] <FR500> crimsun: if you check the gnome one closely, text overlaps more text, like if it was drawn over the screen without cleaning it first
[07:31] <johndarkhorse> dr_willis: i think gpulinux on a nvidia card would screeeeeem
[07:31] <Kuolio> dr_willis: according to forum poster vieira, s/he has gotten her/his card working
[07:31] <crimsun> FR500: it's probably an issue of gnome-settings-daemon not being invoked from within E
[07:31] <dr_willis> johndarkhorse,  i cant find any hits on google mentuiong Gpulinux
[07:31] <crimsun> FR500: you should have identical screenshots (well, aside from the wm decorations) if you invoke gnome-settings-daemon from within E, then load the Web page
[07:31] <FR500> crimsun: the problem is in gnome not in E
[07:31] <dr_willis> i did find mention of      -->  S3 reenters the mainstream graphics chip market with its new Chrome20
[07:32] <FR500> crimsun: it looks like it was using gtk1 themes...
[07:32] <Strife> w00t, found the problem
[07:32] <FR500> man i just opened my ip and ports for the world
[07:32] <Strife> my old xorg.conf had the wrong font directories
[07:32] <FR500> Strife: what problem?
[07:32] <Strife> FR500: X not starting up after upgrade to Breezy
[07:32] <FR500> ih
[07:33] <FR500> oh
[07:33] <Yawgmoth7> Hello
[07:33] <Yawgmoth7> Again
[07:33] <Yawgmoth7> @
[07:33] <Yawgmoth7> Everybody who was here last time i was here
[07:34] <khc> Should every package in universe be on malone?
[07:34] <khc> (classpath-doc isn't)
[07:35] <johndarkhorse> dr_willis: i may have the wrong name for it, but some hacker has come up with a linux that runs on gpus
[07:36] <FR500> crimsun: so what does E use instead of GTK2?
[07:36] <benplaut> where are settings stored for  what to do when the power button is pressed, when the laptop lid is closed, etc?
[07:36] <nybble> benplaut: /etc/acpi/ ?
[07:38] <nybble> back
[07:39] <benplaut> ok
[07:39] <benplaut> what is the command used to bring up the "Log Out | Shut Down | Restart" etc screen?
[07:39] <nybble> benplaut: that is where they are, how to do anything is beyond me :S i'm wonering the same thing
[07:39] <nybble> i'm not sure...
[07:39] <benplaut> /etc/acpi/events
[07:39] <benplaut> edit the files in there, it seems ;)
[07:40] <nybble> oki
[07:40] <Amuro> sup
[07:40] <Amuro> whats the screen-x command to see ppl who ssh';ed into u do commands?
[07:40] <nybble> yo Amuro
[07:41] <talios> crimsun, offtopic from ubuntu - but have you heard the new Charlie Dominici solo cd at all?
[07:42] <Amuro> anyone?
[07:42] <nybble> amuro: whoson ?
[07:42] <ksmurf> Is madwifi working in breezy yet?
[07:42] <nybble> hmm
[07:42] <nybble> nvm
[07:42] <FR500> crimsun: i own images and words and live at budokan dvd, just looking on what to buy next :p
[07:43] <benplaut> ksmurf: it appears to be :)
[07:44] <Amuro> whats the screen-x command to see ppl who ssh';ed into u do commands?
[07:44] <tga> Amuro, there's no such thing unless they happen to run screen
[07:44] <bob2> just screen -x, if they're in a screem you have permission to use
[07:45] <Amuro> amuro@Will:~$ screen-x
[07:45] <Amuro> bash: screen-x: command not found
[07:45] <JDahl> Amuro, you're not just looking for 'users'?
[07:45] <tga> Amuro, man screen
[07:45] <karl_> anyone know how to mess with your alsa to change hardware addresses, or how to remove the dummy card? I'm stuck with my dummy as card 0 and my real card as 1, and everything is using 0 as default...
[07:46] <Amuro> i did screen -x
[07:46] <Amuro> says no screen to be attached
[07:46] <Amuro> and my friends sshed itno me
[07:46] <Amuro> doin stuff
[07:46] <BROKEN_LADDER> what's a good dvd copying program?
[07:46] <johndarkhorse> tga: wrote me a context menu thingy for gpg yet? :)
[07:46] <johndarkhorse> BROKEN_LADDER: dvdrip
[07:46] <tga> erm.. not yet, I'm having fun with a FUBARed server atm
[07:47] <khc> Amuro: Is he using screen?
[07:47] <ram_> hi i am having problem with xserver
[07:47] <Amuro> idk
[07:47] <ram_> can any one help me out
[07:47] <khc> Amuro: It only works if the other side uses screen
[07:47] <bob2> Amuro: then you can't do anything
[07:47] <bob2> Amuro: screen -x only lets you share a screen with someone
[07:47] <nybble> ram_: what problem might you be having?
[07:47] <johndarkhorse> ram_: we need more info from you
[07:48] <edman> hi pplz
[07:48] <ram_> ya i am having intel 865 mother board
[07:48] <ram_> and ubuntu has detected all the things including monitor name
[07:48] <nybble> ok?
[07:48] <edman> it's cool
[07:49] <ram_> but the scree resolution resolution is just 600x400
[07:49] <bob2> yay intel
[07:49] <edman> oh i can change
[07:49] <edman> that
[07:49] <bob2> ram_: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:49] <drsynackuator> would anyone know how to map the windows + L combo to lock my system?
[07:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> johndarkhorse thanks
[07:50] <FR500> benplaut: did you find out what command triggers the shutdown options screen?
[07:50] <benplaut> nope
[07:50] <benplaut> still looking
[07:50] <bob2> drsynackuator: does the windows key produce a useful keysym?
[07:51] <Quequeg> drsynackuator, I couldn't get the windows key to work, so I mapped alt-L instead
[07:51] <FR500> benplaut: what command would you use to shutdown without being a superuser?
[07:51] <nybble> hmm
[07:51] <benplaut> "shutdown now"
[07:51] <nybble> what is that app to run to get keycodes?
[07:51] <bob2> nybble: xev, in an xterm
[07:51] <ksmurf> benplaut .... where did you get that info?
[07:51] <FR500> benplaut: that asks for root
[07:51] <nybble> thx bob2
[07:51] <benplaut> but that's just a plain, fast shutdown
[07:51] <benplaut> uhh
[07:51] <FR500> benplaut: i want to be able to shutdown from beep-media-player for instance
[07:51] <benplaut> hrm
[07:51] <benplaut> i dunno
[07:51] <bob2> that's a bad idea
[07:52] <bob2> but very possible
[07:52] <FR500> benplaut: with the alarm plugin
[07:52] <benplaut> i'm not sure :P
[07:52] <drsynackuator> wow xev is neat
[07:52] <FR500> drsynackuator: what is xev
[07:52] <benplaut> FR500: cool tool for figuring out keysyms
[07:52] <benplaut> and other things...
[07:52] <ram_> one more thing i have made some mistake while configuring clock
[07:52] <drsynackuator> FR500: run it in a terminal  and see, it's cool
[07:53] <bob2> ram_: be more specific
[07:53] <red_blood> hello!
[07:53] <karl_> anyone know how to mess with your alsa to change hardware addresses, or how to remove the dummy card? I'm stuck with my dummy as card 0 and my real card as 1, and everything is using 0 as default...
[07:53] <ram_> when ever i swtich to other os it shows me wrong time
[07:53] <red_blood> one question: i need to turn off the computer in 6 hours aprox.
[07:53] <nybble> karl_ : have you checked the wiki and/or the forums?
[07:54] <ram_> i have to set utc to make it correct how can i revert the clock settings
[07:54] <red_blood> what's the command to do it? sleep?
[07:54] <FR500> bob2 how could i shutdown (a command) without being root?
[07:54] <drsynackuator> What's command for locking
[07:54] <bob2> ubotu: random keybinding is run "gconf-editor" and go to apps -> metacity -> global_keybindings, and enter the keyname as one of the run_comman_N values, then go to apps -> metacity -> keybinding_commands and enter the command you want to run in the matching command_N value
[07:54] <ubotu> Hey bob2,  is
[07:54] <bob2> ubotu: keybinding is run "gconf-editor" and go to apps -> metacity -> global_keybindings, and enter the keyname as one of the run_comman_N values, then go to apps -> metacity -> keybinding_commands and enter the command you want to run in the matching command_N value
[07:54] <ubotu> ...but keybinding is already something else...
[07:54] <nybble> karl_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[07:54] <bob2> ffs
[07:54] <bob2> ram_: sudo base-config
[07:55] <bob2> red_blood: man shutdown
[07:55] <bob2> dr	xscreens
[07:55] <Sonny_Wertzik> can somebody tell me what emacs is?
[07:55] <drsynackuator> so what's command for locking
[07:55] <bob2> drsynackuator: xscreensaver-command -lock
[07:55] <bob2> drsynackuator: don't repeat, it's annoying
[07:55] <drsynackuator> sweet thx
[07:55] <bob2> Sonny_Wertzik: a text editor
[07:55] <red_blood> thanks
[07:55] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone know why the only version of transcode i see is unstable?
[07:55] <nybble> Sonny_wertzik: text editor
[07:55] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: define "unstable"
[07:55] <Sonny_Wertzik> hmmm...
[07:55] <Sonny_Wertzik> thx
[07:56] <rob_>  so I bought this wireless NIC today, hoping I could get it to work with Ubuntu...
[07:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> bob2 that's what synaptic says
[07:56] <Sonny_Wertzik> i was going to install emacs-chess but it souns dull heh
[07:56] <dr_willis> the Mother-In-Law-of-All-Text-Editors!
[07:56] <rob_> wondering if I could get some help setting it up?
[07:56] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: and it says that where...?
[07:56] <dr_willis> thats a chess plugin for emacs
[07:56] <dr_willis> :P
[07:56] <FR500> rob_: what chipset
[07:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> if i look at the version info
[07:56] <bob2> rob_: you'd need to chell us the chipset
[07:56] <dr_willis> Gnuchess is wha tya want for chess
[07:56] <Sonny_Wertzik> is it like all text?
[07:56] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: no, show us *Exactly* what it says
[07:56] <bob2> Sonny_Wertzik: and other things, yes
[07:56] <rob_> it's an Atheros...
[07:57] <bob2> rob_: then plug it in
[07:57] <rob_> AR5212
[07:57] <Sonny_Wertzik> pffffff.....
[07:57] <FR500> rob_: should be working already
[07:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:57] <BROKEN_LADDER>   dvdrip: Depends: transcode (>= 2:0.6.14) but it is not going to be installed
[07:57] <rob_> oh yeah, gone through that... plugged it in, done both Hoary and Breezy
[07:57] <red_blood> the time of shutdown -t is in seconds?
[07:57] <benplaut> FR500: he's got a DWL-G520
[07:57] <BROKEN_LADDER> why is it not going to be installed?
[07:57] <benplaut> finicky bastard
[07:57] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: so, don't use backports or extras or marillat or whatever broken repository you have apt pointed at
[07:57] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: dvdrip is in multiverse
[07:57] <bob2> rob_: and?
[07:57] <Sonny_Wertzik> are there any like really 3d lookin chess games that can be played online?
[07:57] <rob_> not recognized... network hardware detection fails
[07:58] <bob2> rob_: then ignore that
[07:58] <FR500> benplaut: he said atheros
[07:58] <benplaut> yah
[07:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> backports?
[07:58] <bob2> rob_: and look at the output of "dmesg"
[07:58] <dr_willis> Sonny_Wertzik,  gnuchess has different front ends.. some of which are 3d
[07:58] <rob_> yeah, it's a "D-Link DWL-G520"....
[07:58] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: yes, your /etc/apt/sources.list is probably broken; paste it to #flood
[07:58] <bob2> rob_: time to look at the dmesg output
[07:58] <red_blood> the time of shutdown -t is in seconds?, if I run shutdown -t 9000, my computer power off in 9000 seconds?
[07:58] <rob_> (off to check dmesg... machine's in next room)
[07:58] <Sonny_Wertzik> dr_willis, whats a front end?
[07:58] <bob2> red_blood: tha's what the manpage says
[07:59] <Sonny_Wertzik> like a gui?
[07:59] <dr_willis> Sonny_Wertzik,  :P yep
[07:59] <red_blood> ok, thanks bob
[07:59] <Sonny_Wertzik> heh im learnin stuff already!
[07:59] <rob_> there's a lot in dmesg... what should i grep for?
[08:00] <bob2> rob_: dmesg | grep -i ath
[08:00] <benplaut> post the whole thing in pastebin
[08:00] <Sonny_Wertzik> dr_willis, are they separate downloads?
[08:00] <benplaut> or what bob2 said :P
[08:00] <rob_> ah!
[08:01] <benplaut> how do i check whether i'm using APM or ACPI?
[08:01] <dr_willis> Sonny_Wertzik,  yes normally
[08:01] <rob_> produced <null>... but then I had to cancel network hardware installation
[08:01] <bob2> benplaut: how old is the machine?
[08:01] <BROKEN_LADDER> bob2 i only have supported repositories, but it says it can't find transcode
[08:01] <benplaut> bob2: about 2 years
[08:01] <benplaut> IBM Thinkpad T40
[08:01] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: I don't see your /etc/apt/sources.list in #flood
[08:01] <Sonny_Wertzik> dr_willis, can you tell me where to get the separate front ends..good 1's?
[08:02] <bob2> benplaut: acpi, probably; /var/log/dmesg  will tell you, too
[08:02] <ram_> bob2 : thanks a lot
[08:02] <benplaut> nybble: i sense... a Dell or Sony user?
[08:02] <benplaut> :P
[08:02] <dr_willis> Sonny_Wertzik,  fire up synaptic and see whats there.
[08:02] <bob2> rob_: nothing in dmesg about it?it should either mention loading it, or claim the HAL is too old
[08:02] <dr_willis> Sonny_Wertzik,  and check google and gnuchess's hiomepage
[08:02] <nybble> benplaut: alas, yes. i have an inspiron 9300
[08:03] <nybble> good laptop, most of the time
[08:03] <mlambie> are the w32codecs available in breezy?
[08:03] <Sonny_Wertzik> dr_willis, ahhh synaptic...ok
[08:03] <Sonny_Wertzik> dr_willis, ty
[08:03] <benplaut> mlambie: last time i checked, yess
[08:03] <bob2> mlambie: not in ubuntu itself, but in other repositories, yes
[08:03] <rob_> bob2: i must've screwed up in expert install; i'll do a regular install and be back in 20!
[08:03] <benplaut> bah...
[08:04] <mlambie> bob2, what repos do i need to add?
[08:04] <benplaut> i wish the ACPI would frikkin follow what i told it to in /etc/acpi/events
[08:04] <bob2> mlambie: the -extras one, I'd think
[08:04] <bob2> benplaut: what's not working?
[08:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> bob2 done
[08:04] <mlambie> ok
[08:05] <benplaut> bob2: trying to get the laptop to turn off screen, but not lock, on lid close
[08:05] <ksmurf> damm......It still does not see ath0!!!!!!!
[08:05] <benplaut> it might be a problem with gnome-screensaver...
[08:05] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: that's it? apt-cache policy transcode, #flood
[08:05] <benplaut> slightly offtopic... how do i get rid of gnome-screensaver and completely replace it with xscreensaver?
[08:06] <bob2> benplaut: are you debugging the lidbtn script?
[08:06] <benplaut> bob2: the script works fine, but it doesn't activate on lid close
[08:06] <benplaut> it just locks screen
[08:06] <nybble> benplaut: ooo!
[08:07] <bob2> benplaut: so when it's closed, "grep -q closed /proc/acpi/button/lid/*/state" returns true?
[08:07] <nybble> benplaut: are you working on shutting down the screen on lid close?
[08:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> bob2 it's there
[08:07] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: that's the entire output?
[08:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> uh huh
[08:08] <benplaut> nybble: yes
[08:08] <bob2> ah, transcode doesn't exist in hoary
[08:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> so i can't install dvdrip eh?
[08:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> i need to copy a dvd.
[08:08] <ksmurf_> need?   or want.
[08:08] <bob2> "need" seems a little strong
[08:09] <nybble> BROKEN_LADDER: yea, i know... iwas trying to earlier
[08:09] <bob2> if it's a dvd you made, you can copy it with dd
[08:09] <benplaut> bob2: doens't return anything
[08:09] <bob2> benplaut: it will return a status code; what does "echo $?" say right after it?
[08:10] <volvoguy> i got some bad news when i booted up my file server today. can someone take a peek at these logs and see if there's any diagnostics i can do? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2287
[08:10] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: thoggen is in hoary and works quite well
[08:10] <dr_willis> "The server has crashed.. but I just saved a lot of money on my car insurance!"
[08:10] <benplaut> bob2: kinda hard to find out the first... "sleep 5; grep -q closed /proc/acpi/button/lid/*/state" and then close the lid?
[08:10] <dr_willis> :P
[08:10] <bob2> volvoguy: power down, unplug all your ide stuff, blow on the connecters, replug, reboot, pray
[08:10] <bob2> benplaut: sounds good
[08:11] <volvoguy> bob2. yes sir! powering down now! :)
[08:11] <benplaut> d/oh
[08:11] <nybble> volvoguy: i second what bob2 said
[08:11] <BROKEN_LADDER> bob2 i use thoggen for encoding to theora.  i'm talking about a rip to an image so i can burn it to another dvd
[08:11] <benplaut> bob2: maybe i should do with without the external moniter plugged in?  :P
[08:11] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: you can use dd to do that then, if the dvd is not encrypted
[08:12] <bob2> maybe even if it is
[08:12] <volvoguy> thanks guys. it's an old machine but a relatively new drive. hopefully that'll fix it. i'm going to run out to the garage for a can of compressed air.
[08:12] <nybble> hows the quality on theora?
[08:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> bob2 and no, thoggen doesn't work quite nice.  it usually puts a few processes into a D status so i have to reboot to use the dvd drive again.  2-4 reboots and it usually works.  often it won't encode a disc..it just gets to a certain place and produces an error.
[08:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> nybble better than mpeg-2, but only competative with mpeg4 at low bitrates.
[08:12] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: that sounds like a dvd drive issue; I've never had an issue
[08:12] <BROKEN_LADDER> it has no problems in windows.  maybe it's a compatibility thing
[08:13] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: anyway, if you want transcode simply, you'll need to talk to the backport people
[08:13] <BROKEN_LADDER> backport people?
[08:13] <nybble> broken_ldadder: ahh... what do i need to install to play them ffs
[08:13] <benplaut> bob2: it doesn't show anything, whatsover... just goes back to a shell...
[08:13] <furic> totem's video is all shaky, like its droping frames or something, both when its doind goom visualisation and video, no other player appears to have this problem, any known fix's?
[08:13] <mlambie> bob2, i can't find any breezy-extras repos for the w32codecs :(
[08:14] <bob2> benplaut: the echo $?
[08:14] <bob2> mlambie: oh well
[08:14] <bob2> mlambie: lucky it's trivial to get anyway
[08:14] <nybble> benplaut: sleep 5; cat /proc/acpi/button/lid/*/state | grep closed
[08:14] <BROKEN_LADDER> nybble ffs?
[08:14] <angasule> I have a friend who installed ubuntu (which I don't have), and he wants to install a program, what's the standard method? the FAQ doesn't specify one as far as I can see, no graphical package manager?
[08:14] <nybble> broken_ladder: uhm, nvm
[08:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> nybble as i recall, mplayer and gxine worked fine.  maybe i installed some theora codecs that i search for with apt-cache search
[08:15] <nybble> angasule: synaptic
[08:15] <karl_> angasule: go into system tools, there is a graphical package manager
[08:15] <karl_> angasule: synaptic
[08:15] <BROKEN_LADDER> apt-get is way easier to use than synaptic
[08:15] <angasule> karl_: thanks, I just found it indirectly
[08:15] <nybble> benplaut: what i just sent you worked for me
[08:15] <karl_> yugh.
[08:16] <karl_> apt-get is hella faster too
[08:16] <nybble> benplaut: state:      closed
[08:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> oh, i bought a toy this week guys.  i highly recommend it.  the cowon iaudio u2 1gb music player (supports vorbis)
[08:16] <rob_> BROKEN_LADDER: not for most of us Mac/Winderz folks!
[08:16] <bob2> that sounds like a fairly subjective statement
[08:16] <angasule> BROKEN_LADDER: he's just starting with linux, it took me days to explain to him he shouldn't just download any package off the net and install
[08:16] <rob_> I love Synaptic!
[08:16] <nybble> broken_ladder: front me a link? in a pm perhaps
[08:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> angasule doh!
[08:16] <karl_> angasule: should have learned this in windoze?
[08:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> nybble link to what?
[08:16] <bob2> angasule: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:16] <karl_> angasule: teach him about viruses...and the existance of them
[08:16] <nybble> broken_ladder: that toy...a link to info perhaps?
[08:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> viruses for linux?  never heard of such a thing.
[08:17] <angasule> karl_: I mean, the repository system is new to him
[08:17] <bob2> mlambie: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[08:17] <BROKEN_LADDER> nybble oh.  look up cowon u2 on cnet or google
[08:17] <angasule> bob2: thanks, already found that link and gave it to him (hopes he reads it completely...)
[08:17] <benplaut> bob2: ok, it said state:closed
[08:17] <bob2> benplaut: rock
[08:17] <benplaut> between a?
[08:17] <kablank> im uninstalling latest  version of ubuntu from hd,  but when i run fdisk on a dos prompt at boot floppy,   i cant delete logical drive on extended dos drive,  so i cant free my max hd capacity what should i do
[08:17] <karl_> stick with the standard repositories and you'll be fine
[08:17] <karl_> thats why i use gentoo
[08:17] <karl_> i kept breaking kubuntu
[08:18] <nybble> benplaut: did what i sent work?
[08:18] <karl_> portage doesnt break me.
[08:18] <benplaut> nybble: yup
[08:18] <pinucset> one think, how can i take a photo of my linux? impr pant petsis doesnt work...
[08:18] <nybble> benplaut: yay! i was right about something for once
[08:18] <bob2> breaking apt only happens when you screw up
[08:18] <Inf3ctedFx> Hi everyone... I have a question, I just downloaded an Mouse theme, but it doesn't say how to install... some one knows how install mouse themes?
[08:18] <benplaut> nybble: welcome to the revolution :P
[08:18] <bob2> pinucset: you mean a screenshot?
[08:18] <nybble> benplaut: why ty
[08:19] <nybble> hehe
[08:19] <pinucset> yes
[08:19] <bob2> benplaut: so, yeah, I kinda don't have time to help you fix it, but I'd suggest filing a bug; sorry.
[08:19] <pinucset> screenshot, sorry for my english ;)
[08:19] <bob2> pinucset: system -> screenshot
[08:19] <benplaut> k
[08:19] <angasule> are Skippy or Expocity available in the default ubuntu repository?
[08:19] <kablank> im uninstalling latest  version of ubuntu from hd,  but when i run fdisk on a dos prompt at boot floppy,   i cant delete logical drive on extended dos drive,  so i cant free my max hd capacity what should i do
[08:19] <rayben> is there something up with the repositories ? i grabbed the list off the starter guide, and tried an apt-get update and they are all timing out (my inet connection works)
[08:19] <yahalom> what is this error: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:19] <yahalom> X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown).
[08:19] <yahalom> ?
[08:19] <Inf3ctedFx> Hi everyone... I have a question, I just downloaded an Mouse theme, but it doesn't say how to install... some one knows how install mouse themes?
[08:19] <benplaut> bob2: i know better than to come on here and ask a question when there are 420 people in the room :P
[08:19] <bob2> rayben: I'd ignore whatever the ubuntu guide says about repositories
[08:19] <furic> Inf3ctedFx: Stop reposting!
[08:20] <bob2> kablank: this sounds like a DOS issue
[08:20] <Inf3ctedFx> ok, sorry
[08:20] <bob2> Inf3ctedFx: no need to ask more than once
[08:20] <bob2> yahalom: this is where you tell us what vide ocard you have
[08:20] <rayben> bob2: where do i find a good repository list that includes backports and universe ?
[08:20] <nybble> rayben: yes, i would too
[08:20] <bob2> angasule: no
[08:20] <yahalom> bob2, ati radeon 9200
[08:20] <Inf3ctedFx> sorry, is an habit.... from another servers
[08:20] <bob2> rayben: universe is already in /etc/apt/sources.list, just commented out
[08:20] <angasule> bob2: thanks :(
[08:20] <bob2> yahalom: it should work out of the box
[08:20] <yahalom> bob2, using breezy, worked on hoary
[08:20] <bob2> odd that it doesn't
[08:20] <bob2> yahalom: right, bug time :)
[08:21] <yahalom> bob2, meaning its a bug with breezy?
[08:21] <bob2> yahalom: yes
[08:21] <bob2> especially if it stopped working
[08:21] <yahalom> bob2, so quite a few ppl having this prob?
[08:21] <bob2> not that I've seen
[08:23] <yahalom> bob2, do i need to do a clean install of breezy? i just did dist-upgrade
[08:23] <bob2> no
[08:23] <Jae> I have a really dumb-assed question...
[08:24] <dr_willis> :)
[08:24] <bob2> if dist-upgrade does not work, something is buggy
[08:24] <nybble> Jae: and i have a really dumb answer
[08:24] <Jae> Is Ubuntu a debian-derivative?
[08:24] <nybble> lol
[08:24] <dr_willis> At least you are honest
[08:24] <nybble> Jae: yes, somewhat
[08:24] <bob2> Jae: yes
[08:24] <Jae> Somewhat.
[08:24] <yahalom> bob2, everytime i use fglrxconfig, or just simply change ati to fglrx, x crashes on next reboot
[08:24] <dr_willis> a debian-branch ya could say
[08:24] <Jae> So... ... hrm...
[08:24] <bob2> yahalom: er
[08:24] <Jae> Bah.
[08:24] <bob2> yahalom: don't do that
[08:24] <nybble> Jae: i just like that word...
[08:24] <Jae> I'll install it anyway.
[08:24] <Jae> Hmm?
[08:24] <mpm2> anyone coded in pascal lately?  I'm trying to figure out how to prompt a user to enter a letter to keep a program running but I'm not sure what type of loop to use
[08:25] <nybble> Jae: yes, it is a Debian Deriv. but a much nicer and user friendly deriv
[08:25] <bob2> mpm2: #pascal is almost certainly a better place to ask
[08:25] <bob2> it's not that much nicer
[08:25] <bob2> the differences are fairly small
[08:25] <yahalom> bob2, what should i do then? get the driver from apt, and then?
[08:25] <Jae> Hmm.
[08:25] <Jae> What is the update method?
[08:25] <bob2> yahalom: use the default X drivers
[08:25] <nybble> well, my mother can install ubuntu...
[08:25] <Jae> Because I'm down to choosing between Fedora Core 4 and Ubuntu.
[08:25] <dr_willis> apt-get update
[08:25] <bob2> Jae: same as debian; whatever apt-based tool you want
[08:25] <Quinthius> Jae: ubuntu :P
[08:25] <dr_willis> Yea - i have to say Ubuntu over FC4
[08:26] <Jae> Yeah... but does anyone have a Mac using Ubuntu?
[08:26] <dr_willis> I got it on my imacDV downstairs
[08:26] <nybble> Jae: i would go with ubuntu... i've been in the fedora / redhat scene. it used to be good. a LONG time ago.. now its very clunky and slow
[08:26] <dr_willis> worked decently well.
[08:26] <bob2> Jae: lots of people do
[08:26] <Jae> Do you use Mac-on-Linux?
[08:26] <yahalom> bob2, but then i dont get 3d rendering
[08:26] <dr_willis> Nope. never used macOnLinux
[08:26] <Jae> Hmm. They have a debian release.
[08:26] <nybble> Jae: and Bob Young owns the local football team here :D
[08:27] <Jae> But I don't know if I should grab that or just build from the sources.
[08:27] <bob2> yahalom: if you don't, it's a bug
[08:27] <Jae> Nybble: Who's Bob Young?
[08:27] <nybble> (Bob Young, co-founder of redhat :D)
[08:27] <Jae> (Oh.)
[08:27] <bob2> yahalom: X's Free drivers should do hardware 3d acceleration on 9200's
[08:27] <Jae> (Who co-founded Microsuck with Gates?)
[08:27] <bob2> Ballmer
[08:27] <nybble> (Ape-boy)
[08:27] <rob_> and Rob Glasser... (the Real guy)
[08:27] <yahalom> bob2, how do i revert than then?
[08:27] <rayben> i tried to uncomment those repositories out .. i dont think that is my issue though. it says "Connection to us.archive.ubuntu.com (1.0.0.0)" .. why the 1.0.0.0 ?
[08:27] <nybble> (oh, and paul allen)
[08:27] <yahalom> bob2, thanx man
[08:28] <rayben> (ping us.archive.ubuntu.com says 82.211.81.182)) .. seems apt-get update is resolving it wrong ?
[08:28] <bob2> rayben: your dns is messed up
[08:28] <rayben> bob2 : but ping works fine
[08:28] <bob2> or you're behind a whack proxy or something
[08:29] <bob2> does using ftp instead of http work?
[08:29] <az[a] zel> hmm, for some reason the java plugin wont work in firefox.. even though i've renamed the broken symlink in /etc/alternatives :/
[08:29] <rayben> yeah thats weird, changing it to FTP worked
[08:30] <bob2> you're behind a "transparent" proxy, I'd think
[08:30] <bob2> where "transparent" = "your isp is run by morons"
[08:30] <karl_> where "your isp is run by morons" = "welcome to comcast"
[08:30] <rob_> =)
[08:30] <rayben> it shouldn't unless its new. i just did this same thing a month ago
[08:31] <rayben> karl_ qwest/msn here
[08:31] <karl_> never heard of them
[08:31] <bob2> it's what california's bell's turned into, aiui
[08:31] <rayben> aren't there webpages where you can tell if you are going through a proxy before reaching them ?
[08:31] <bob2> yay for splitting at&t into a bunch of uncompettive monopolies
[08:32] <bob2> rayben: if you install libwww-perl, 'HEAD http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/' should show you
[08:32] <bob2> as would "tcptraceroute blah 80"
[08:32] <Jae> What's the opinion around these parts? Gnome or KDE or other?
[08:32] <dbl> does any one help me how to share my into other computer ?
[08:32] <nybble> Jae: gnome here
[08:32] <nybble> Jae: at this house
[08:32] <dbl> i want to share my file into another computer
[08:33] <panickedthumb> jae: all of the above
[08:33] <nybble> jae: xfce even!
[08:33] <sergio> hi
[08:33] <rob_> Jae: KDE's broken a LOT lately...
[08:33] <sergio> does anybody can tellme how to update ubuntu 4.10?
[08:33] <johndarkhorse> dbl: we need info. what are the computers running?
[08:33] <rob_> (still waiting for e17 on Ubuntu...!)
[08:33] <dbl> i'm using ubuntu
[08:34] <rob_> Jae: Ubuntu sorta assumes GNOME (otherwise: KUbuntu for the KDE version)
[08:35] <karl_> dbl: emerge samba
[08:35] <karl_> dbl: create a samba share
[08:35] <bob2> emerge?
[08:35] <bob2> er?
[08:35] <karl_> er sorry
[08:35] <karl_> i'm a gentoo user
[08:36] <karl_> ack
[08:36] <dbl> i already install samba but i still cannot find my file
[08:36] <panickedthumb> lol
[08:36] <dr_willis> Emerge! foul Deamon!
[08:36] <dr_willis> :P
[08:36] <daaku> hey everyone, was gonna do a new ubuntu indtall, and was trying to decide which filesystem to use, and came across something about dir_index to speed up ext3. anyone have more suggestions to improve performance?
[08:36] <panickedthumb> I still type emerge every now and then
[08:36] <dbl> i want to access in file that i have save
[08:36] <karl_> uuh...apt-get install samba...
[08:36] <panickedthumb> old habits die hard
[08:36] <dbl> i want it to open in other computer
[08:36] <dr_willis> alias emerge='sudo apt-get install'
[08:36] <karl_> dbl: get a terminal server.
[08:36] <johndarkhorse> dr_willis: not in here, it'll stink
[08:36] <karl_> lol dr_willis
[08:36] <dbl> karl how ?
[08:36] <bob2> dbl: you need to configure samba o share whatever dir you want to share
[08:36] <panickedthumb> dr_willis, you're a genius
[08:36] <karl_> dbl: ltsp.org
[08:36] <bob2> daaku: pretty sure modern ext3 uses hashed directories by default
[08:36] <dr_willis> Now its Gentubuntu!
[08:37] <karl_> lool dr_willis
[08:37] <dbl> karl i type that ?
[08:37] <rob_> =)
[08:37] <bob2> karl_: terminal server doesn't sound at all like what dbl wants
[08:37] <bob2> dbl: you just want to share files, yes?
[08:37] <cat> hey how do i check hard drivers errors?
[08:37] <karl_> he wants every computer to access all the files off of the main computer
[08:37] <karl_> sounds darn like a terminal server to me...
[08:37] <dr_willis> Hmm.. Firefox just crashed...
[08:37] <johndarkhorse> panickedthumb: alias's are QUITE addictive
[08:37] <bob2> cat: you paste them to #flood
[08:37] <daaku> bob2: the man page doesnt say the hashed b-trees are used by default
[08:37] <dr_willis> and i dont know what site it was.. since i was using the 'webstulbmer' plugin
[08:37] <karl_> dr_willis: have you closed and reopened all isntances of it lately?
[08:37] <dr_willis> stumbler. :P
[08:37] <cat> bob2, i can't boot my hd with debian sarge
[08:37] <bob2> karl_: that sounds a lot more like a shared filesystem to me
[08:37] <cat> i know there's a way u can clean the errors
[08:38] <cat> for example when u turn of the computer inpropertly
[08:38] <karl_> bob2: he wants his ENTIRE system shared
[08:38] <bob2> daaku: hm you're right
[08:38] <bob2> cat: fsck
[08:38] <cat> just fsck
[08:38] <bob2> cat: which will run by default if the disk is detected to be corrupt
[08:38] <karl_> bob2: fsck you too.
[08:38] <nybble> lol
[08:38] <dbl> bob2 i want to open my file to my other computer
[08:38] <dr_willis> I think my wife needs a good fscking...
[08:38] <dr_willis> :P
[08:38] <bob2> dbl: just share files? right, use samba.
[08:39] <dbl> yes i have already install samba
[08:39] <bob2> dbl: I hear there's some pointy clickey thign for it in system -> administration -> shares
[08:39] <panickedthumb> johndarkhorse: I aliased the hell out of a box I had a few years back just to freak out my roommate. He was talking about how crappy linux was and how hard it was, so I showed him that to check your IP you type "whatismyipbitch" and "installsomething" installs packages
[08:39] <karl_> use samba...make a samba share...go to other computer...smbmount your other computer
[08:39] <karl_> lol panickedthumb
[08:39] <saik0> panickedthumb, brilliant
[08:40] <dr_willis> or just use the scp/sftp features
[08:40] <karl_> scp...hah...rsync you fool!
[08:40] <johndarkhorse> panickedthumb: as i said.... addictive
[08:40] <panickedthumb> oh yes
[08:40] <topyli> good call! the gprefrection icons have entered the repositories
[08:40] <karl_> anyone know how to keep the alsa dummy module from loading?
[08:41] <bob2> daaku: any idea what the filetype ext3 option does?
[08:41] <saik0> The touchpad just broke on my laptop, and by broke i dont mean the xorg kinda broke but the @^%# me kinda broke
[08:41] <johndarkhorse> saik0: get a mouse with a tail
[08:41] <dbl> bot2 i already share but the file that i save cannot be shown
[08:42] <nybble> saik0: or a bluetooth, if you have bad teeth
[08:42] <nybble> lol
[08:42] <dbl> the file that i save will not afair
[08:42] <bob2> dbl: oh well
[08:43] <daaku> bob2: not quite sure. trying to see if i can find something about it
[08:43] <saik0> johndarkhorse and nybble, it's still under a week old! It's still got 25 days of store return, 1 year of manufacturer warranty, and a 3 year service plan left =)
[08:43] <saik0> I'm just shocked that it happened
[08:44] <dbl> bob2 do u have idea why is it my file that i save cannot be shown ?
[08:44] <saik0> to the point where i stared at my xorg.conf for an hour and running a live CD before figuring it out =O
[08:45] <bob2> dbl: I don't understand what you're saying, sorry
[08:45] <dbl> hmmm
[08:45] <dbl> this one
[08:46] <Inf3ctedFx> Can anyone tell me how unistall a package on ubuntu?
[08:46] <dbl> I have a file that i save in Home Folder i want it to open in other pc
[08:47] <UltraEnigma> Hey, I need some help for the mounting of my hard drive.
[08:47] <bob2> Inf3ctedFx: wiki.ubuntu.com/SYnapticHowto
[08:47] <bob2> !+mountntfs
[08:47] <ubotu> bob2: Are you on ritalin?
[08:47] <bob2> !+ntfs
[08:47] <ubotu> I guess ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[08:47] <bob2> ubotu: ^^
[08:47] <ubotu> bob2: Are you on ritalin?
[08:47] <UltraEnigma> It's only FAT32
[08:47] <Inf3ctedFx> thx bob2
[08:48] <bob2> bah
[08:48] <bob2> UltraEnigma: same deal
[08:48] <az[a] zel> wow, different ADSL modems really make a difference in performance..
[08:48] <esac_> i just switched to the nvidia driver, and after restarting X all of my fonts are really big. i assume its using a larger dpi. any idea how to fix it ?
[08:48] <UltraEnigma> bob2, what's the console command?
[08:48] <UltraEnigma> I can't seem to find the drive.
[08:48] <bob2> UltraEnigma: sudo aptitude purge blah
[08:48] <bob2> oh, to mount
[08:48] <bob2> er
[08:49] <bob2> then you need to fix that
[08:49] <saik0> UltraEnigma,man mount
[08:49] <UltraEnigma> I don't know the drive.
[08:49] <bob2> then find out
[08:49] <bob2> ls /dev/hd? /dev/sd?
[08:50] <nybble> hmm...anyone here have a Logitech MX 1000?
[08:50] <saik0> nybble, i do
[08:51] <nybble> saik0: did you get all the buttons, and sidescroll to work?
[08:51] <saik0> nybble, I'm almost certain theres a howto on the boards
[08:51] <Orunitia> my google search box on epiphany has gone missing and I can't find the option to bring it back. Anyone have an idea?
[08:51] <UltraEnigma> mount: can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[08:52] <bob2> UltraEnigma: then your mount command line was wrong
[08:53] <UltraEnigma> but hd1 is the one I need
[08:53] <bob2> so mount that then
[08:53] <nybble> saik0: *checks*
[08:53] <bob2> hd1 is not a valid partition name, tho
[08:54] <saik0> nybble, I did get all the buttons working properly, but the my desktop is halfway across the country
[08:54] <UltraEnigma> mount /dev/hd1
[08:55] <UltraEnigma> I thought that's how it worked.
[08:55] <bob2> UltraEnigma: no
[08:55] <snausages> how do i install BUM?
[08:55] <bob2> UltraEnigma: you mount partitions; /dev/hd1 does not exist
[08:55] <nybble> saik0: lol.. well... if it works//and you get the range...
[08:55] <nybble> j/k
[08:56] <UltraEnigma> I know hd1 exists.
[08:56] <bob2> no, it doesn't
[08:56] <UltraEnigma> I just don't know how to mount it.
[08:56] <bob2> do you mean hda1?
[08:56] <UltraEnigma> hda1
[08:57] <UltraEnigma> Yes
[08:57] <bob2> right
[08:57] <bob2> so mount it properly
[08:57] <bob2> sudo mount -t whatever /dev/hda1 /wherever
[08:57] <UltraEnigma> man mount
[08:57] <saik0> nybble, distacted by FFVII Advent Children eye candy =D
[08:57] <nybble> saik0: yay :D
[08:58] <UltraEnigma> sudo mount -t FAT32 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[08:58] <UltraEnigma> mount: mount point /mnt/hda1 does not exist
[08:58] <bob2> so
[08:59] <bob2> does /mnt/hda1 exist?
[08:59] <UltraEnigma> no.
[08:59] <bob2> also, FAT32 is not a valid filesystem; you want vfat
[08:59] <bob2> you need to make it
[08:59] <bob2> you mount fileyetsms onto directories, and those directories have to exist
[08:59] <UltraEnigma> I see.
[08:59] <Orunitia> my google search box on epiphany has gone missing and I can't find the option to bring it back. Anyone have an idea?
[09:00] <UltraEnigma> Thank you bob2.
[09:00] <bob2> Orunitia: if it's not mentioned in the changelog, file a bug
[09:00] <UltraEnigma> I believed it wirked.
[09:00] <UltraEnigma> worked
[09:00] <bob2> UltraEnigma: 'sudo mount /whatever' will work if you setup /etc/fstab to include the rest of the information it needs
[09:00] <UltraEnigma> alright, thank you so much. Is there any book that has this kind of information in it?
[09:01] <bob2> I'd assume "linux in a nutshell" does
[09:01] <UltraEnigma> Alright, I'll pickup a copy and avoid hassling you guys,.
[09:01] <bob2> good luck!
[09:01] <UltraEnigma> haha, thanks.
[09:01] <bob2> the wiki has lots of good howto-style documentation, too
[09:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> i just did a dist upgrade and now my sound doesn't work.
[09:02] <UltraEnigma> Yeah I took a look, I found a lot of out of service documents.
[09:02] <UltraEnigma> For the prior version of Ubuntu
[09:02] <BROKEN_LADDER> the bars in xmms go as if it is working, but the red light on the spdif cable never comse on
[09:03] <UltraEnigma> I still haven't managed to figure out the sound... :(
[09:03] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: and the correct modules are loaded?
[09:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> ac97..same as before
[09:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> this happened last time i upgraded, but it mysteriously went away after i poked around at random things all day.
[09:03] <BROKEN_LADDER> i tried to use the esd while xmms was using alsa, and there was some conflict, and suddenly sound was working
[09:04] <BROKEN_LADDER> i thought it was a fluke and wouldn't happen again.  i have restored my asound.state to the previous, known working, version
[09:09] <adwait> hello everyone
[09:13] <dooglus_> hi.
[09:13] <upster> I'm struggling with setting my refresh rate on my monitor. In the kde control panel at 1280x1024 it only gives me the choice of 60hz. However, I've set VertRefresh to 46-120 but it seems like it ignores it? what am I doing wrong?
[09:13] <dooglus_> if I double-click a text file in gnome, what is the default text editor that it should open in?
[09:16] <silverton> what value would "$datadir" be?
[09:16] <saik0> nybble, just realized you asked about sidescroll. I never did get that working. This is the best thing i found while googling http://floam.sh.nu/index.xhtml?page=guides&section=mx1000
[09:17] <bob2> silverton: what are ryou compiling?
[09:17] <dennis__> Hello
[09:17] <dennis__> Can anyone help me real quick?
[09:17] <bob2> it's easier if you Just Ask
[09:18] <nathanel> dooglus_: whatever editor you prefer? system default is gedit
[09:18] <dennis__> im trying to install the libmp3lame.so thing for audacity
[09:18] <dennis__> And I"m kind of lost
[09:19] <daaku> i'm doing a debootstrap install, and i'm trying to figure out what mdadm is for exactly, and if its required. and if initramfs, something that depends on it, is required?
[09:19] <dooglus_> nathanel: ok, thanks.  it seems I don't have the gedit package installed.  that explains the error message I'm getting.
[09:19] <dennis__> bob2,  can you help?
[09:19] <bob2> daaku: both are more or less needed
[09:19] <bob2> daaku: initramfs is esseitnal if you want to be able to boot
[09:19] <nathanel> dennis__: what did you try already?
[09:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> this is nuts.  why would my sound just stop working?
[09:20] <dennis__> well
[09:20] <dennis__> im kind of lost...I googled it and it said to download the rpm
[09:20] <dennis__> but I haven't found a debian/ubuntu one
[09:20] <dennis__> :o
[09:20] <bob2> dennis__: liblame0 is in ubuntu
[09:21] <daaku> bob2: ah. ok. can i disable the mdadm init script though? (and lvm while i'm at it?)
[09:21] <bob2> daaku: sure
[09:21] <dennis__> bob2, well audacity wants me to locate the libmp3lame.so file so it can encode mp3's
[09:21] <daaku> bob2: nice. under 512mb system, with a ~15-20sec boot. yay!
[09:22] <nathanel> dennis__: if you have lame installed it should be somewhere under /usr/lib
[09:22] <dennis__> k
[09:22] <dennis__> thank you
[09:22] <dennis__> nathanel, any idea where in there?
[09:22] <dennis__> lol nvm
[09:23] <dennis__> nathanel, well..i have lame installed and libmp3lame.so is not found on my system :/
[09:23] <jcohen85> crimsun, hey- this is jasoncohen. I apparently can't remember my nickserv password so i had to create a new nick
[09:23] <dennis__> Err
[09:23] <dennis__> Nvm
[09:23] <daaku> does ubuntu do a split for hostname/domainname in /etc? (i thought it did, but debootstrap only created a hostname file)
[09:23] <dennis__> I forgot to change the look in folder in the search
[09:23] <dennis__> my bad
[09:24] <jcohen85> crimsun, the kernel panic i get is "init 64: syntax error: 0x   [4294677.238000]  Kernel Panic - not syncing. Attemping to kill init!"
[09:24] <jcohen85> crimsun, i get that kernel panic for the k7 and 386 kernel
[09:25] <nathanel> dennis__: according to packages.ubuntu.org libmp3lame.so is included in liblame-dev package and stored in /usr/lib
[09:25] <dennis__> okay
[09:27] <dennis__> Anyone here have any experience with audacity
[09:28] <thundrcleeze> dennis__, I have a little
[09:28] <a_lacsa> Hi, is there some kind of virtual cd for linux? (like daemon tools)
[09:28] <smott> a_lacsa: mount -o loop?
[09:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> my sound is not working.  esd starts without complaint. xmms and rhythmbox play is if normal.
[09:30] <thundrcleeze> what's your problem, dennis__?
[09:31] <saik0> a_lacsa, you can mount iso images the way smott said, but thats about it
[09:32] <jcohen85> i upgraded my hoary install to the breezy preview release. Everything is working fine when i use the 2.6.10 kernel but the k7 and 386 2.6.12 kernel gives me this kernel panic- "init 64: syntax error: 0x   [4294677.238000]  Kernel Panic - not syncing. Attemping to kill init!""
[09:32] <daaku> i know they might be stupid questions, but whats the minimal required to install X? i used to install x-window-system-core, but since breezy has it modularized more, i'm not sure?
[09:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> woah...it's workin!
[09:33] <BROKEN_LADDER> yay
[09:35] <cyphase> i installed breezy colony 3 on my test machine..
[09:35] <cyphase> do i have to do a dist-upgrade to get the current preview?
[09:35] <cyphase> or will it come automatically?
[09:36] <rob_> if the HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards section of the wiki says a certain card "Works out of the Box" and it doesn't.... would it be bad netiquette to change that?
[09:36] <rob_> ...or who do I contact?
[09:36] <bob2> daaku: you could minimise it by removing modules you know you don't need
[09:36] <bob2> daaku: but apt can't pick them for you
[09:36] <eobanb> what do you mean by 'automatically'
[09:37] <bob2> rob_: if you're sure it didn't work for you, then changing it is good
[09:37] <bob2> cyphase: you of course need to upgrade manually
[09:37] <rob_> bob2: thx.
[09:37] <cyphase> bob2, doesn't colony 3 use the "breezy" repository?
[09:37] <bob2> cyphase: yes
[09:37] <bob2> cyphase: but apt doesn't magucally run
[09:38] <cyphase> lol, i know
[09:38] <cyphase> but i don't have to dst-upgrade..
[09:38] <bob2> yes, you do
[09:38] <cyphase> oh
[09:38] <cyphase> ok
[09:38] <bob2> or use aptitude or synaptic or whatever
[09:38] <cyphase> yea
[09:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> here's something cool about beos.
[09:45] <BROKEN_LADDER>  It boots very quickly, in under 5 seconds on my machines.
[09:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> wowza
[09:45] <benplaut> however, it's somewhat lacking in most other areas...
[09:48] <eobanb> yeah, you know what also boots in a couple seconds, grub
[09:48] <poningru> question will voice recognition be considered for UBZ?
[09:48] <poningru> err the gander
[09:48] <poningru> or the duck
[09:48] <poningru> whatever
[09:48] <bob2> dapper
[09:48] <poningru> yeah that
[09:48] <bob2> is there any useful Free voice recognition software?
[09:49] <poningru> what do you mean?
[09:49] <poningru> I meant creating one
[09:49] <bob2> er
[09:49] <cyphase> lol
[09:49] <cyphase> very funny
[09:49] <poningru> take one of the many libs and create one to integrate into the os
[09:49] <bob2> writing a voice recognition package is like person-decades of work
[09:49] <cyphase> i hope you don't mean from scratch?
[09:49] <johndarkhorse> graceful gander is breezy+many
[09:49] <poningru> no ofcourse not
[09:49] <johndarkhorse> lol
[09:49] <cyphase> sans the question mark
[09:49] <bob2> are there any free voice recognition libraries yet?
[09:50] <benplaut> bob2: i've heard of somrthing caled flite
[09:50] <poningru> arent there?
[09:50] <benplaut> !find flite
[09:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'flite' (4 shown): eflite ;; flite ;; flite1-dev ;; libflite1.
[09:50] <benplaut> !info flite
[09:50] <ubotu> flite: (A small run-time speech synthesis engine), section universe/sound, is extra. Version: 1.2-release-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 214 kB, Installed size: 420 kB
[09:50] <bob2> that's synthesis
[09:50] <poningru> what does yellowdog use?
[09:50] <benplaut> yah
[09:50] <bob2> ie making your computer talk
[09:50] <benplaut> it works the other way, too
[09:50] <bob2> synthesis is pretty easy
[09:50] <benplaut> works on zaurus, anyway
[09:50] <benplaut> !info eflite
[09:50] <jcohen85> so, anyone else getting kernel panics with 2.6.12 in breezy?
[09:50] <ubotu> eflite: (Festival-Lite based emacspeak speech server), section universe/sound, is extra. Version: 0.3.8-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 17 kB, Installed size: 112 kB
[09:51] <poningru> hold on let me go search around brb
[09:51] <bob2> the description for flite doesn't say it does recognition
[09:51] <benplaut> yah
[09:53] <benplaut> bob2:
[09:53] <benplaut> http://www.cavs.msstate.edu/hse/ies/projects/speech/index.html
[09:53] <benplaut> see if that's anything
[09:55] <dooglus_> jcohen85: I'm not.  I have the latest 2.6.12 and it's fine, other than 10 or so errors at boot time
[09:55] <bob2> benplaut: that looks interesting
[09:55] <benplaut> yah
[09:55] <dooglus_> jcohen85: I have linux-image-2.6.12-8-386              2.6.12-8.13 - you too?
[09:55] <benplaut> but old, unfortunately :(
[09:56] <poningru> bob2: sphinx
[09:56] <poningru> its even in our repos
[09:56] <BROKEN_LADDER> is openbsd better than linux?
[09:56] <crimsun> jcohen85: uname -m?
[09:56] <bob2> right, that is interesting
[09:56] <dooglus_> BROKEN_LADDER: yes, but none of us can afford it.
[09:56] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: of course not, that's a silly question
[09:57] <jcohen85> crimsun, currently i'm running 2.6.10
[09:57] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: it's different, and perhaps better in some regards, and prefered by some people
[09:57] <benplaut> BROKEN_LADDER: not better, or worse... just different
[09:57] <crimsun> jcohen85: right, but is this on amd64?
[09:57] <benplaut> try it :)
[09:57] <jcohen85> crimsun, this is on an amd64 chip but it's a 386 install
[09:57] <jcohen85> 2.6.12-8.13
[09:57] <crimsun> jcohen85: ok, I can confirm that, since my amd64 machine died, too.
[09:58] <poningru> bob2: apperantly its good enough for non grammer desktop control systems
[09:58] <BROKEN_LADDER> i was being funny.
[09:58] <poningru> so why not use that as a basis for a small set of controls?
[09:58] <bob2> poningru: you're welcome to propose it
[09:59] <bob2> but unless you write a rather convincing and complete proposal, or convince someone else to do so, it's unlikely much can happen
[09:59] <jcohen85> crimsun, so the 2.6.12 kernel just doesn't work with a amd64 chip
[09:59] <poningru> hmm ic
[09:59] <dealt> greetings
[09:59] <poningru> should I post it in the FOB page?
[09:59] <jcohen85> crimsun, will this be fixed by final release time?
[09:59] <poningru> or the mailing list
[10:00] <poningru> ?
[10:00] <poningru> cause I just might write it
[10:00] <crimsun> jcohen85: indeed
[10:00] <jcohen85> crimsun, oh- and the boot process is also text only
[10:00] <dealt> how can i check the intergrity of ubuntu 5.04 iso that i downloaded? md5 checksum perhaps?
[10:00] <poningru> err make that BOF page sorry bob2 ?
[10:00] <bob2> poningru: the devel list would probably be a better plan, once you've looked more closely into it
[10:00] <poningru> -?
[10:00] <bob2> poningru: are you going to be at UBZ?
[10:00] <poningru> no
[10:00] <poningru> I wished
[10:00] <poningru> hehe
[10:00] <sithmaster> Okay. So... this is rather new...
[10:00] <eobanb> dealt, you answered your own question
[10:00] <bob2> proposing a BOF is kinda dicey then
[10:00] <poningru> oh
[10:01] <bob2> since the people there won't know or care about it
[10:01] <sithmaster> Apparently ubuntu likes to give me a blank screen after boot on this machine.
[10:01] <poningru> hehe ic
[10:01] <bob2> unless you write a proposal explaining it all
[10:01] <dealt> eobanb: yep, im just looking for where can i get the md5 file :)
[10:01] <bob2> (I say this based on the last conference)
[10:01] <poningru> ic
[10:01] <Alex_BO> HELLO! Is there somebody who can help me to install irda connection?I have an Acer Aspire
[10:01] <bob2> it's really annoying to be scheduled to be in a BOF for some idea you've never heard of
[10:01] <bob2> and the descriptn gives no hint about what youre supposed to do
[10:01] <jcohen85> crimsun, is there any disadvantage to using 2.6.10?
[10:02] <bob2> Alex_BO: did you ask on the user list yet?
[10:02] <VincentMX> hi
[10:02] <bob2> jcohen85: there is on breezy
[10:02] <sithmaster> Could it be a glitch in the graphic drivers?
[10:02] <poningru> hehe I understand, I guess I have to find someone who can carry this
[10:02] <Alex_BO> bob2, no.what's the user list?
[10:03] <sithmaster> Hrmph.
[10:03] <VincentMX> i want USplash to work, somebody in another channel told me that i should have installed USplash first and then the kernel. is there any way to reconfigure the kernel package? dpkg --configure only works when it's not configured yet
[10:03] <sithmaster> I'm guessing no one really wants to help in a chan specifically mentioned on ubuntu's site, then?
[10:04] <Whistler> hello
[10:04] <VincentMX> hi whistler
[10:04] <benplaut> !xserver-xorg
[10:04] <ubotu> benplaut: I haven't a clue
[10:04] <benplaut> bah
[10:04] <poningru> sithmaster: what exactly is the problem?
[10:04] <benplaut> sithmaster: one sec
[10:04] <benplaut> try this:
[10:04] <sithmaster> Upon boot, it gives me nothing.
[10:04] <sithmaster> Just a blank screen.
[10:04] <poningru> oh
[10:04] <sithmaster> A giant void of black-ness.
[10:04] <benplaut> press Ctrl+Alt+F1
[10:04] <poningru> yeah I had the same thing
[10:04] <bob2> VincentMX: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[10:05] <poningru> before I fixed it
[10:05] <sithmaster> How'd you fix it?
[10:05] <VincentMX> bob2 thnx
[10:05] <benplaut> sithmaster: press Ctrl+Alt+F1
[10:05] <benplaut> then log into the terminal
[10:05] <Alex_BO> bob2, so: can you help me?
[10:05] <poningru> sithmaster: follow what benplaut is saying
[10:05] <poningru> it should help
[10:05] <bob2> Alex_BO: lists.ubuntu.com
[10:05] <sithmaster> And after I log into the terminal?
[10:05] <benplaut> sithmaster: then type "sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[10:05] <jcohen85> bob2, what's the disadvantage of using 2.6.10 on breezy?
[10:05] <jcohen85> bob2, that i won't get security updates?
[10:06] <jcohen85> i could just add a hoary-security repo just for the kernel
[10:06] <eobanb> huh?
[10:06] <bob2> jcohen85: udev doesn't like it
[10:06] <benplaut> sithmaster: it'll bring up a text mode 9like the installer) thing to configure your graphics card... should fix everything :)
[10:07] !lilo:*! Reminder: recent new unofficial ("about") channel, ##grsecurity , for discussion of grsecurity, ACL's, etc.
[10:07] <sithmaster> Alright.
[10:07] <sithmaster> Thank you, benplaut.
[10:07] <benplaut> 'welcome :)
[10:07] <Cryptid> Help!!! What codes do i need to play .DAT files i have w32codecs and gtream already installed what else do i neeed
[10:07] <jcohen85> if breezy has a known issue with amd64 cpus, why wasn't it mentioned on the site or in the release notes?
[10:07] <benplaut> it's a very common question :P
[10:07] <bob2> Cryptid: .dat is not a useful file format
[10:07] <benplaut> Cryptid: what program usually opens .DAT files?
[10:07] <sithmaster> Also, is it possible to transfer data between partitions?
[10:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> does anyone know of a linux dvd copier besides dvdrip?
[10:07] <bob2> jcohen85: it would be mentioned in bugzilla, if true
[10:08] <sithmaster> I'm thinking that that answer is a big, fat, no.
[10:08] <bob2> jcohen85: if you've found new issues, please do report them so they get fixed
[10:08] <sithmaster> But I just need to be positive about that.
[10:08] <benplaut> about what?
[10:08] <Cryptid> non2, i have this VCD and i want to play the movie but i am unable to as the vid is in .dat format
[10:08] <sithmaster> Also, is it possible to transfer data between partitions?
[10:08] <dealt> hello
[10:08] <VincentMX> bob2 it doesnt see no splash screen
[10:08] <Cryptid> bob2, i have this VCD and i want to play the movie but i am unable to as the vid is in .dat format
[10:08] <bob2> VincentMX: that's fine
[10:09] <bob2> Cryptid: and what does "file" say it is?
[10:09] <Inf3ctedFx> what is the apt-get to install Mplayer?
[10:09] <poningru> sithmaster: yes its possible
[10:09] <benplaut> sithmaster: what are they formatted as?
[10:09] <poningru> as long as linux can recognize the formats
[10:09] <sithmaster> fAT32.
[10:09] <Inf3ctedFx> it should be mplayer or gplayer>
[10:09] <VincentMX> bob2 how do i get a splash screen then?
[10:09] <poningru> sithmaster: then yes its possible
[10:09] <sithmaster> How?
[10:09] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there no way to copy dvd's in linux?
[10:09] <bob2> Inf3ctedFx: mplayer-686 is the package name
[10:09] <Inf3ctedFx> thx
[10:09] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: of course there is, don't be stupid
[10:09] <bob2> (and annoying)
[10:09] <poningru> just mount both partitions and transfer away in a windows manager
[10:09] <BROKEN_LADDER> bob2 then i'd love to know how.
[10:10] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: dvdrip
[10:10] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: oh, it's not installable? talk to the backports peopel so they can fix it
[10:10] <sithmaster> Alrighty.
[10:10] <sithmaster> Thank you.
[10:10] <Cryptid> bob2, totem player player gives this error when i try to play it "Could not determine type of stream." i was able to play the same file in windows media player
[10:10] <spiral> hi
[10:10] <bob2> Cryptid: ignore. it.
[10:10] <BROKEN_LADDER> i thought you (or at least a few people) have said that using backports is unsafe
[10:10] <VincentMX> bob2 is there any other way to get a splash screen?
[10:10] <frans-th> hi all
[10:10] <bob2> yes
[10:10] <poningru> hello
[10:10] <bob2> VincentMX: have you rebooted yet?
[10:10] <Inf3ctedFx> nope bob2  it wont download :(
[10:10] <bob2> Inf3ctedFx: then perhaps you didn't tell apt to use multiver
[10:11] <bob2> Inf3ctedFx: /msg ubotu repositories
[10:11] <poningru> BROKEN_LADDER: its not that big a deal
[10:11] <benplaut> BROKEN_LADDER: technically, it has the possibility of not being safe
[10:11] <VincentMX> bob2 ok
[10:11] <poningru> its generaly safe
[10:11] <benplaut> but, it 99% of the time is OK
[10:11] <bob2> BROKEN_LADDER: also, apt-cache search dvd copy
[10:11] <phrizer> i have apt set to use multiverse, but it still doesnt find mplayer-686 ;/
[10:11] <Inf3ctedFx> multiver?
[10:11] <bob2> Inf3ctedFx: multiverse
[10:11] <bob2> phrizer: /etc/apt/sources.list, #flood
[10:11] <Cryptid> bob2, if i ignore it, it dosent continue to play the file.what do i do now arnt there ne codecs to play such files
[10:11] <bob2> Cryptid: dude
[10:12] <bob2> Cryptid: I'm going to refuse to help you forever if you keep ignoring my suggestions
[10:12] <bob2> 18:09:01           bob2 | Cryptid: and what does "file" say it is?
[10:13] <bob2> Inf3ctedFx: what?
[10:13] <bob2> Inf3ctedFx: read what ubotu told you
[10:13] <poningru> Cryptid: what file format is the file in?
[10:13] <bob2> phrizer: you don't have multiverse there
[10:14] <phrizer> iOh?
[10:14] <Inf3ctedFx> ok i'm reading that bob2  thx
[10:14] <VincentMX> bob2 it doesn't work. i don't see any splash creen
[10:14] <bob2> VincentMX: well, check the bts and file a bug if no one else has
[10:14] <bob2> on the usplash package, I guess
[10:14] <dwerf> would somebody help a greenhorn mount a disk he just put in his system?
[10:14] <Inf3ctedFx> phrizer:
[10:15] <Inf3ctedFx> should I copy that in my sources.list?
[10:15] <Cryptid> the file extension is ".dat" it was originally a .mpeg file i used Nero to make it a VCD file
[10:15] <phrizer> Inf3ctedFx,  no
[10:15] <phrizer> heh
[10:15] <Inf3ctedFx> lol
[10:15] <Inf3ctedFx> so?
[10:15] <Cryptid> poingru, the file extension is ".dat" it was originally a .mpeg file i used Nero to make it a VCD file
[10:15] <omp> hello
[10:15] <bob2> Cryptid: so use the .mpeg
[10:16] <Inf3ctedFx> well, I dont get it.. is kinda confusing to me
[10:16] <bob2> Inf3ctedFx: ?
[10:16] <volvoguy> ugh. i'm not getting very far with this stupid hard drive.
[10:16] <Inf3ctedFx> ubotu:
[10:16] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Inf3ctedFx
[10:17] <Cryptid> bob2, u mean u just want me to rename the file to .mpeg
[10:17] <bob2> ubotu: no, this is where you tell us which bit confused you
[10:17] <ubotu> bob2: what are you talking about?
[10:17] <kuru> guys.. I'm still having trouble with this hp color lj 3550 printer
[10:17] <bob2> Cryptid: is that what I said?
[10:17] <bob2> Cryptid: if you made a vcd from a .mpeg, playt the .mpeg instead
[10:17] <kuru> I upgraded to breezy and install hplip and foomatic-db-hpijs
[10:17] <Inf3ctedFx> ubotu: multiverse
[10:17] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[10:17] <kuru> but everytime Iprint it comes back with "Chosen personality not available"
[10:17] <Inf3ctedFx> !repositories
[10:17] <ubotu> I guess repositories is probably at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[10:17] <kuru> whatever the hell that means
[10:18] <kuru> and it works perfectly from my debian Etch
[10:18] <poningru> Cryptid: just play the vcd
[10:18] <kuru> so I know something in cups/whatever works
[10:18] <volvoguy> i thought the journaling in ext3 was supposed to help prevent problems with bad blocks.
[10:18] <poningru> Cryptid: open up vlc
[10:18] <bob2> Inf3ctedFx: so, go rezd those links
[10:18] <bob2> volvoguy: no, journalling has nothing to do with that
[10:18] <volvoguy> bob2. hmm..
[10:18] <Inf3ctedFx> ok bob2  now I gotta
[10:18] <Inf3ctedFx> thx
[10:19] <poningru> Cryptid: you still there?
[10:19] <Cryptid> bob2, i dont have the .mpeg ne more y would i have the .mpeg file once i have burnt it into a VCD
[10:19] <poningru> do you still have the vcd?
[10:19] <Cryptid> ponigru, ya i am here
[10:19] <dwerf> would somebody help a greenhorn mount a disk he just put in his system?
[10:19] <bob2> omg u r right lolz
[10:19] <volvoguy> are there any tools besides fsck that i could throw at this? the output of fsck -c was "e2fsck: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/hdc1"
[10:19] <Cryptid> ponigru, yes i have the VCD
[10:19] <bob2> dwerf: /msg ubotu ntfs
[10:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> my dvd drive is not being recognized after my recent kernel upgrade.  is there anything to try before downgrading to the previous kernel?
[10:19] <bob2> volvoguy: that means your disk is physically fucked
[10:19] <poningru> Cryptid: start up vlc
[10:19] <poningru> then file->open disc
[10:20] <poningru> and it should play it
[10:20] <volvoguy> i think someone at WD needs to die this time. that'd be about a dozen in a year.
[10:20] <volvoguy> grrr.
[10:20] <poningru> err select vcd from the choice
[10:20] <poningru> and press ok
[10:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> volvoguy there's a company in san jose that will open up your drive in a clean room and retrieve the data from it for a modest 1000$ per gig or so.
[10:20] <dwerf> bob2, fortunately it is a fat32 partition
[10:20] <Cryptid> ponigru, vlc?? what is that is that a player, :-| i am totally new to linux so i am sorry if i am irritating u.
[10:20] <bob2> dwerf: read the factoid, it points at a script that works for fat32 and ntfs
[10:21] <dwerf> bob2, the disk i must write to is linux formatted, but it doesn't mount
[10:21] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: hows the new linux treatin ya?
[10:21] <bob2> dwerf: oh, right
[10:21] <poningru> Cryptid: thats ok, yes its a video player
[10:21] <bob2> dwerf: copy a line in /etc/fstab and edit it to suit
[10:21] <poningru> you can install it from synaptic
[10:21] <cyphase> wtf..
[10:21] <poningru> go to system->administration-> synaptic
[10:21] <volvoguy> BROKEN_LADDER, unfortunately doing work on free software doesn't allow me to afford such luxuries. :-P
[10:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> lol
[10:21] <cyphase> why is there a porn screensaver on my computer?
[10:21] <dwerf> bob2, what?
[10:21] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse. which new linux?
[10:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> cyphase cause you got lucky?
[10:22] <bob2> cyphase: please don't start
[10:22] <poningru> cyphase: we arent called the porn distro for nothing
[10:22] <bob2> dwerf: which part of that was confusing?
[10:22] <cyphase> bob2, don't start what?
[10:22] <cyphase> i'm serious..
[10:22] <Cryptid> ponigru, i dont have it i guess i will have to download it
[10:22] <cyphase> i sure didn't install it
[10:22] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: were you not talked thru a linux install t'other day?
[10:22] <dwerf> bob2, the whole sentence ;-)
[10:22] <poningru> Cryptid: yes you have to install it from synaptic
[10:22] <bob2> cyphase: no, you enabled a screensaver that shows random images from the web
[10:22] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, nope. not me. been using linux 10+ years.
[10:23] <dwerf> bob2, i need to know how i view a non-mounted disk and how to mount it
[10:23] <poningru> Cryptid: go to system->administration
[10:23] <Cryptid> poningru, wait i will install it and come back to u in few mins
[10:23] <bob2> dwerf: open /etc/fstab. copy one of the existing ext3 lines. paste it on a new line. edit the mountpoint and device columns to point at the correct vaslues.
[10:23] <chaosmind> a scant eleven hours after purchasing my D-Link wireless card, I've got it recognized in "Network settings"!
[10:23] <poningru> Cryptid: do you know how to install it?
[10:23] <chaosmind> Now I just need to get online with it!
[10:23] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse: just now getting into more of the nitty gritty of it.
[10:23] <dwerf> ok
[10:24] <bob2> things are simpler if you buy non-silly hardware, tho
[10:24] <bob2> e.g. my wireless nic worked in the installer
[10:24] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: i wonder how many volvoguys there are
[10:24] <Cryptid> poningru, yes i do
[10:24] <poningru> k
[10:24] <chaosmind> "non-silly hardware" = ??
[10:24] <poningru> just makin sure
[10:24] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, i've never seen another.
[10:24] <Alex_BO> CAN Somebody say me where i can download nsc-ircc module?
[10:24] <bob2> chaosmind: = ones with free linux driver
[10:24] <Cryptid> poningru, it is a 9mb file i have a 128kbps connection so it might take few mins
[10:25] <chaosmind> =)
[10:25] <poningru> k
[10:25] <dwerf> bob2, that makes sense, now how can i check what the line would be for the non-mounted disk?
[10:25] <volvoguy> bob2, so even if fdisk and smartctl show the disk as healthy, it's the partition that's hosed and all my data is probably gone? :(
[10:25] <bob2> dwerf: by using your linux knowledge, or describing your system to us
[10:25] <bob2> volvoguy: I didn't say that
[10:25] <bob2> volvoguy: short read could just mean the partition table is fucked
[10:25] <Cryptid> poningru, y dont the other player play the file i mean like Xine and totem
[10:25] <sithmaster> Hmm. Still no go.
[10:26] <poningru> Cryptid: not sure I am sure they can play it
[10:26] <poningru> err
[10:26] <poningru> Cryptid: not sure, I am sure they can play it.
[10:26] <sithmaster> Whoah. 1 op per 409 users?
[10:26] <sithmaster> O_o
[10:26] <volvoguy> bob2, is there any way to get the data off, even if it's a one time shot?
[10:26] <johndarkhorse> sithmaster: we are civil here
[10:26] <sithmaster> Hah.
[10:26] <poningru> Cryptid: totem should play it
[10:27] <sithmaster> I should hope so...
[10:27] <poningru> in totem movie-> open disc
[10:27] <sithmaster> Anyway, the clrt-alt-F1 bit didn't quite work....
[10:27] <poningru> in totem, movie-> open disc
[10:27] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse.... ooooh. that was me! :) i was more fighting with resizing an hfs+ partition. it's working great so far (sans wifi).
[10:27] <poningru> sithmaster: I will be with you soon hold on
[10:27] <sithmaster> Yessir.
[10:28] <poningru> Cryptid: also what are you using with totem the default engine or totem-xine?
[10:28] <dwerf> bob2, i'm afraid my linux knowledge is more about gimp and blender - my system now contains 3 disks, 1 windows with 2 partitions, 1 with 1 partition and one USB-disk with 2 partitions
[10:28] <Cryptid> poningru, the default engine
[10:28] <poningru> Cryptid: go ahead and install the totem-xine package
[10:29] <rigel> okay so i need to back up a drive to dvd
[10:29] <poningru> it is much better imho
[10:29] <rigel> but ubu isnt seeing all the partitions, for one
[10:29] <rigel> and for two, i dont know how to use dd properly
[10:29] <poningru> but I prefer vlc to totem
[10:29] <Cryptid> poningru, i have xine player is totem-xine diffrent from it
[10:29] <poningru> Cryptid: totem-xine is just making totem use the xine display engine iirc
[10:29] <poningru> not sure though
[10:30] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, good to see ya. i'm in os x right now as i rarely have an ethernet cable handy. still haven't final-checked wifi dongle compatibilty and bought something yet.
[10:30] <dwerf> bob2, the partition to recover is on a mounted USB-disk, it's fat32 - the disk to write to is Linux-formatted
[10:30] <poningru> xine will be unaffected
[10:30] <Cryptid> poningru, k will this xine-totem interfer with my w32codecs and gstream codecs
[10:30] <Alex_BO> is there anybody? I need your help....
[10:30] <kakalto> how can I make ubuntu use my serial mouse?
[10:30] <rigel> can someone tell me how to back up this windows drive?
[10:31] <rigel> please?
[10:31] <pef> hello
[10:31] <poningru> Cryptid: no totem-xine shouldnt interfere with that stuff
[10:31] <kakalto> I tried changing the protocol in xorg.conf to "Auto", it didn't work, neither did "Microsoft"
[10:31] <volvoguy> hey. i'll brb. xchat in osx really sucks.
[10:31] <Alex_BO> I need nsc-ircc module, but i don't know where i can find it
[10:31] <rigel> it's dying, so i hooked it up to my ubu box but im a noob and dont know how to use dd
[10:31] <sithmaster> Hmm. X-Chat...
[10:31] <sithmaster> Yummy client.
[10:31] <kakalto> anyone know much about using serial mice under ubuntu?
[10:31] <Cryptid> poningru, k thanx for all the help if i still have ne problems i will come bck to u
[10:31] <poningru> Cryptid: and xine should be able to play vcd as well
[10:31] <jcohen85> i dont' see any kernel panic like mine in bugzilla
[10:32] <sithmaster> It's 2005 and you're using a serial mouse?
[10:32] <sithmaster> O_o
[10:32] <jcohen85> crimsun, did you report the kernel panic?
[10:32] <sithmaster> That's so awesome.
[10:32] <Cryptid> poningru, xine says that the file format way not recognised
[10:32] <johndarkhorse> sithmaster: be civil please
[10:33] <sithmaster> How is commenting on the awesomeness of using old technology uncivilized?
[10:33] <poningru> Cryptid: it may be that whoever encoded the video may not have done it correctly
[10:33] <crimsun> jcohen85: I can't; the machine is across the continent from me with no serial connection
[10:33] <sithmaster> Seriously, I'm on a 56k line right now. And I have a P2 machine running back in my little sister's room.
[10:33] <crimsun> jcohen85: please feel free to, however
[10:33] <poningru> Cryptid: see if vlc plays it if not I dont think you can play it at all
[10:34] <Inf3ctedFx> bob2: the command is:  apt-get update && upgrade ?
[10:34] <poningru> sithmaster: ok so what vid card are you using?
[10:34] <poningru> and what computer do you have?
[10:34] <sithmaster> On this machine, an MX 420.
[10:34] <sithmaster> 800Mhz celeron.
[10:34] <sithmaster> 128MB RAM.
[10:34] <sithmaster> 30GB HDD.
[10:34] <sithmaster> With 20GB going to windars, and 10 going to ubuntu.
[10:35] <sithmaster> Heh. Wow. I didn't think it was possible to kill a chat with over 400 users...
[10:35] <johndarkhorse> sithmaster: please use proper punctuation, not the <enter> key, please
[10:35] <sithmaster> Heh.
[10:35] <sithmaster> Um.
[10:35] <sithmaster> That's not proper enough for you?
[10:36] <sithmaster> Considering you didn't even properly punctuate that sentence, I fail to see how I'm at fault here.
[10:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there any way to see whether my dvd drive is even being recognized ?
[10:37] <shekhar> hello how can i get skype working?
[10:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'd suggest not using it period.
[10:37] <Kuolio> eh, download from skype's homepage, install and enjoy?
[10:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> why not use something that operates on open standards, and just get an sip account?
[10:38] <Kuolio> that's how i did it :D
[10:38] <Alex_BO> PLEASE!help me, please.... i'm looking for nsc-ircc, but i can't find it in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5/net/irda. why?
[10:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> er.. a sip account.  use gizmo or linphone if you like.
[10:38] <Kuolio> BROKEN_LADDER: because all my friends use skype?
[10:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> ack
[10:38] <Kuolio> because my family and relatives use skype?
[10:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> then tell them why it's a bad idea to use it.  convert them.
[10:38] <omp> for some reason, no matter how many times i try ubuntu, theres something about it i don't like, but i don't what...
[10:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> skype will die soon enough.
[10:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> you don't know what?
[10:38] <Quinthius> anyone else having trouble with w32codecs and sun java in breezy?
[10:38] <Kuolio> hehe, good luck converting my mom to do something :D
[10:39] <volvoguy> i'm still trying to hold back the tears. if someone can point me to some info about repairing a partition table without destroying data, i'd be eternally grateful. this is the big drive i could only pray wouldn't fail because i couldn't afford to back it all up. :(
[10:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> Kuolio gizmoproject.com
[10:39] <BROKEN_LADDER> Kuolio if you use sip, you can buy a real phone that sits on your desk and makes free calls over the net.  all your mom would have to do is dial numbers.
[10:39] <liable> volvoguy: look at gpart
[10:39] <sithmaster> You couldn't use tapes?
[10:39] <Alex_BO> is there anybody who can help me?
[10:39] <sithmaster> Tape drives can't be terribly expensive, volvo.
[10:39] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: what filesystem is on the drive?
[10:40] <volvoguy> liable, is that like gparted?
[10:40] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, ext3
[10:40] <liable> volvoguy: no, apt-get show gpart
[10:40] <rigel> tape drives ARE terribly expensive
[10:40] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: fsck.ext3 wont do it?
[10:40] <stoeptegel> what's the advantage of having shorewall conf tool above plain iptables?
[10:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> anyone know how i can check whether my dvd drive is showing up to my system at all?
[10:40] <liable> volvoguy: err apt-cache..
[10:41] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, no. just a sec and i'll show you the error again.
[10:41] <jcohen85> crimsun, what would the priority be...critical?
[10:41] <jcohen85> or major
[10:41] <rigel> is there some way i can back up a fat32 partition to dvd easily?
[10:41] <crimsun> major; set the severity
[10:41] <chaosmind> hola (wireless NIC problem here) "dmesg | grep -i ath" produced error messages regarding "IPv6"....
[10:41] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, fsck.ext3: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/hdc1
[10:41] <chaosmind> seems I've only got IPv6 hosts set up...?
[10:41] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, this is on a pc.
[10:42] <chaosmind> although that's how my wired (functioning) connection looks as well.
[10:42] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: if you can hold that thought, i know bob2 knows a thing or two about ext3 tools
[10:43] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: i'm sure some other daywalkers know, too
[10:43] <dwerf> it is so sad to see that in this channel often no help is given to newcomers to linux that do not study ict
[10:43] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, i'm holding, as i'm reading up on liable's suggestion of gpart.
[10:43] <Quinthius> was w32codecs ans sun java removed or something?
[10:43] <jcohen85> crimsun, why can't i set the milestone to 5.10? it says i don't have privileges to do so
[10:43] <crimsun> jcohen85: don't set that
[10:43] <dwerf> it is often very hard to just 'read the manual' if one has no reference to what ons is looking for
[10:43] <crimsun> jcohen85: only the release managers should mess with that
[10:44] <jcohen85> crimsun, https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15707
[10:44] <jcohen85> crimsun, what other info should i add?
[10:44] <dwerf> bob2 > it is often very hard to just 'read the manual' if one has no reference to what ons is looking for
[10:44] <chaosmind> has anyone here connected a wireless Ubuntu system thru an Airport Express connection?
[10:44] <zxsykco> Nope.
[10:44] <Micksa> dammit
[10:44] <crimsun> the airport express doesn't work with Linux afaik
[10:44] <Micksa> what's with the ultra-ultra-slow scrolling in breezy?
[10:44] <chaosmind> D'oh!
[10:45] <volvoguy> might sleuthkit help in this situation too?
[10:45] <chaosmind> it should just be "kosher" 802.11g networking...
[10:45] <chaosmind> ...not even w/ WEP enabled.
[10:46] <Micksa> also, what's ubuntu's version of ~/.xsession?
[10:46] <Micksa> it has one right?
[10:46] <a_lacsa> is cvs built in ubuntu or do i have to acquire it first?
[10:46] <crimsun> a_lacsa: you have to install it.
[10:47] <a_lacsa> is it a packeage i can install using synaptic?
[10:48] <kataklsym> during installation, since there is only once install cd, does it give you options to install packages from a repository? or do you have to do that after the standard install is finished?
[10:50] <topyli> a_lacsa: just search for "cvs" in synaptic and it'll be there
[10:51] <Quinthius> anyone know why w32codecs and sun-j2re1.5 arent showing up anymore? after a refresh, it listed them as local/obsolete and conflicting with some packages, so i uninstalled them and looked for the other packages, which are nowhere to be found... and now w32codecs/sun-j2re1.5 cant be found either
[10:51] <a_lacsa> thanks
[10:51] <volvoguy> liable, any tips for running gpart?
[10:51] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: carefully?
[10:52] <topyli> kataklsym: you'll have to customize your installation afterwards, IIRC the ubuntu installer doesn't give you this option
[10:52] <volvoguy> liable, i assume i want it to save the results to a file first and not back to the disk in case it's wrong?
[10:52] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, :-P
[10:52] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: did you read the docs at the gpart homepage?
[10:53] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, i'm working on the manpage at the moment.
[10:53] <kataklsym> topyli: what kind of package selection system does the install give you? or does it just install everything?
[10:53] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, thx.
[10:53] <johndarkhorse> manpages are so dry
[10:53] <volvoguy> agreed.
[10:54] <topyli> kataklsym: it simply installs the default package selection, like it or not. or, you can install using the "server" option, which gives you a more debian-like minimal install
[10:55] <kataklsym> thats cool
[10:55] <kataklsym> where can i see the default packages that are installed ?
[10:55] <topyli> kataklsym: ubuntu
[10:55] <topyli> argh
[10:55] <topyli> kataklsym: check the dependencies of the "ubuntu-desktop" package
[10:56] <Whistler> can anybody help me a litlle with icewm?
[10:56] <topyli> kataklsym: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/base/ubuntu-desktop
[10:56] <kataklsym> i mean before i install, on the web, where is a site that shows the package list for the 5.10 preview cd?
[10:57] <volvoguy> for those familiar with gpart - it looks like if i run it without any options, it'll print it's output to the screen for me to check out. yes?
[10:57] <kataklsym> is 5.10 about the same as 5.04, as far as the packages that are included?
[10:58] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: v/o options it should just print
[10:58] <daaku> anyone know where i can get a US keymap and xkb config for a powerbook? i've got a custom kernel with the fn patch.
[10:58] <topyli> kataklsym: there's not much difference. you can just change "hoary" to "breezy" in that URL i gave you
[10:58] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: you have to TELL it to Write
[10:58] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, ok. cross your fingers. :)
[10:59] <kataklsym> thanks topyli
[10:59] <topyli> kataklsym: there are new things on the desktop, like evince and cairo stuff. but the differences are not that big because the releases happen so often
[11:00] <volvoguy> uh oh. two read errors and one short read error so far.....
[11:00] <jcohen85> crimsun, should i add anything else to bug 15707
[11:00] <entr0py> hi
[11:00] <crimsun> jcohen85: sec
[11:00] <dwerf> where can i find basic information on mounting disks?
[11:00] <zxsykco> man mount
[11:00] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, this is a 250G drive, so it could take a while.
[11:01] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: i have 2 of those, and one got munged with all data loss t'other week
[11:01] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: i'll impart that lesson later, if you're interested
[11:01] <dwerf> where can i find basic information on mounting disks?
[11:01] <johndarkhorse> sometime after monday afternoon
[11:02] <zxsykco> dwerf: man mount
[11:03] <topyli> if someone is a keen openoffice.org tester, i could give them some slides to prepare. i would get the slides, you could report bugs to openoffice.org =)
[11:03] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, i had my hands on another 250G drive on sale last week, but on my limited income it would have meant about 3 months of spending money. had i bought it and done a raid1, i wouldn't be in this boat though. doh!
[11:03] <kakalto> ubuntu didn't autodetect my network. how can i try to install it manually?
[11:03] <kataklsym> topyli: i have used RH for about 10 years now, and i'm kinda tired of how RH is not implementing newer versions with new options in the packages and the update systems, i am looking for a distro to replace RH, i just want the stability that I am use to.   I have tried other distros out, but seems like they have shortcomings when it comes to the options u have with configuration, and the compatibility with the base software and other soft
[11:03] <kataklsym> ware you later wish to install..
[11:04] <johndarkhorse> kataklsym: 6 month release cycles here
[11:04] <kakalto> anyone?
[11:04] <dwerf> zxsykco > i really need a bit of basic linux help, just to mount a disk to my system, than I'll be out of this channel
[11:05] <volvoguy> kakalto, if you go to "system > administration > networks" there's a gui that should handle most stuff.
[11:05] <volvoguy> kakalto, (in the top panel that is)
[11:05] <jcohen85> crimsun, did you get a chance to look at it?
[11:06] <dealt> hi! quick question: what's the default root password?
[11:07] <topyli> kataklsym: stable ubuntu releases are very stable. it's like running debian unstable without the hassle :)
[11:07] <malv> i notice wmvs with totem + gstreamer are rather choppy and unwatchable. Is there a way to fix this?
[11:07] <topyli> kataklsym: new, but tested and supported packages
[11:07] <malv> *without having to use totem-xine
[11:08] <volvoguy> dealt, there's no root in ubuntu. we use sudo.
[11:08] <volvoguy> !sudo
[11:08] <ubotu> methinks sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[11:08] <dealt> volvoguy: oh
[11:08] <topyli> kataklsym: note that breezy is not "stable" quite yet
[11:08] <dealt> ubotu: that's a suprise. thanks! :)
[11:08] <ubotu> dealt: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:09] <volvoguy> dealt, it works much like apple os x if you're familiar with that.
[11:09] <kakalto> thanks volvoguy
[11:09] <volvoguy> kakalto, yw.
[11:10] <kataklsym> topyli: whats not stable in breezy??
[11:10] <kakalto> but, volvoguy, that's to do with modem
[11:10] <benplaut> g'night :)
[11:10] <kataklsym> i know its not officially completed testing stages to become "stable" but what all do u know of that is broken?
[11:11] <topyli> kataklsym: it's stable in real life, i mean "might still change" by "unstable"
[11:11] <kataklsym> thats what i was hoping to hear :)
[11:11] <topyli> kataklsym: which means they could still break things :)
[11:12] <volvoguy> kakalto, it works with network stuff too. if you don't see an ethernet option in there, then it's probably a deeper issue than i can solve. ubuntu doesn't seem to be recognizing your hardware.
[11:12] <kataklsym> yea auto updating isnt always good when ur using an unstable distro heh
[11:12] <dealt> bye everybody!
[11:12] <topyli> that's right :)
[11:12] <kataklsym> a lot of people think that auto updates are always good
[11:12] <chaosmind> WOO-HOO!!!  Wireless Ubuntu at last!!!
[11:13] <chaosmind> Thanks to bob2 for all the help!
[11:13] <chaosmind> just as I was about to solve my problems with a power-drill and a Long-Ass Ethernet Cable (TM)!
[11:13] <kataklsym> like me where i use RH, i dont have to worry too much about auto updates because they have plenty more time to be tested thoroughly, since RH is only on a 12 month release schedule
[11:13] <topyli> kataklsym: every once in a while, somebody asks "how do i set up a cron job to automatically dist-upgrade every night" :)
[11:13] <kakalto> volvoguy, when I do 'lspci' in the terminal, I don't see any network hardware there
[11:13] <kataklsym> also means im one of the last to be using the latest and greatest, if im depending on updating to do it for me
[11:13] <chaosmind> just realized that Ubuntu and Apple don't see eye to eye on what WEP means...!
[11:13] <kataklsym> haha
[11:14] <kakalto> it's a d-link network card, but there's no d-link on that list
[11:14] <kataklsym> topyli: u got to be kidding
[11:14] <Whistler> how do i install xfce?
[11:15] <kakalto> Whistler, isn't there a guide to that on the forums?
[11:15] <topyli> kataklsym: if you want to live on the bleeding edge, you use ubuntu. i've been thinking about foresight linux too, because they are the other distro which uses the latest and greatest gnome stuff
[11:15] <Gundjah> Whistler, sudo apt-get install xfce
[11:15] <Whistler> kakalto thx
[11:15] <kakalto> Whistler, np
[11:15] <volvoguy> kakalto, i'm afraid i'm not very familiar with making hardware work that doesn't "just work". can someone else give kakalto a hand?
[11:15] <Whistler> Gundjah nope
[11:15] <kataklsym> im still on gnome 2.6 with RH
[11:15] <Gundjah> K. Seems to work for me.
[11:15] <kakalto> last time I played with xfce, it wasn't in the repos
[11:15] <kataklsym> stuff like that is what makes me want to dist-change lol
[11:16] <Whistler> Gundjah maybe it because of breezy
[11:16] <Whistler> ?
[11:16] <volvoguy> you guys might want xfce4
[11:16] <volvoguy> (that 4 makes a big difference!)
[11:16] <Gundjah> Whis - whaddyamean?
[11:16] <kataklsym> i havent heard of foresight linux
[11:16] <Gundjah> tnx ... volvo
[11:16] <kataklsym> the one that i was thinking would be kick ass was gentoo
[11:16] <topyli> kataklsym: yeah, redhat is conservative. you could of course use fedora, but i'm always hearing about problems that fedora users have. it's not very stable AFAIK
[11:17] <kataklsym> I have tried fedora
[11:17] <kakalto> kataklsym, if you can be bothered taking atleost a few days to install gentoo :)
[11:17] <kataklsym> fedora isnt really up to par with technology either
[11:17] <Whistler> volvoguy thx sudo apt-get install xfce4 works :)
[11:17] <volvoguy> topyli, i had a lot of problems with foresight's package management system.
[11:17] <kataklsym> kakalto: i started my gentoo install
[11:17] <kataklsym> and when it started doing the portage process in stage 3, i got some kind of error and it stopped
[11:17] <walde> kakalto, your card isnt listed in lspci
[11:17] <kataklsym> and then i tried again and it still didnt work
[11:18] <topyli> volvoguy: yeah, it's a young distro that might have problems. i haven't dared to try it yet, i don't have enough test machines
[11:18] <kataklsym> someone said it was a problem with the newest portage tree on there site
[11:18] <Gundjah> My inittab says:
[11:18] <Gundjah> # The default runlevel.
[11:18] <Gundjah> id:3:initdefault:
[11:18] <volvoguy> Whistler, great! if you fire up synaptic and search, you can also grab some extras for xfce that don't get pulled in with the xfce4 package.
[11:18] <kataklsym> so i said hmm well maybe i messed up
[11:18] <kakalto> walde, no, it's not
[11:18] <Gundjah> Can anyone figure out why I
[11:18] <Gundjah> am booting to graph mode???
[11:18] <Whistler> volvoguy i see :)
[11:18] <kakalto> kataklsym, my first linux was gentoo. what a crash course
[11:19] <atila_sendil> Hi all; anyone using a VIA mini-itx ? I have problems with movie playback being too slow
[11:19] <Gundjah> kakalto - I can imagine :-)
[11:19] <Sarr-chan> hey, people. Could anyone help me get znes or another snes emulor on my ubuntu amd64?
[11:19] <kataklsym> then i tried the GUI Installer for Gentoo, and thought maybe its thinking im a newbie and trying to give me a hard time.lol.  well i got through all the package installs, and then it said Unknown error, and i just said hell with gentoo...
[11:19] <topyli> Gundjah: debian-like distros always boot to runlevel 2. the thing you want to do is not to start gdm
[11:19] <kakalto> Gundjah, let's just say, I was disappointed when my soundcard didn't work >_>
[11:19] <Gundjah> kakalto - :)
[11:19] <volvoguy> topyli, i tried it three times, just in case i was doing something wrong using their package manager (i wasn't). it's really pretty until you try and start upgrading it. it made me fall in love with tomboy. (the software, not an actual boy. hehe.).
[11:20] <Sarr-chan> is it even possible to get a snes emulator on ubuntu?
[11:20] <kataklsym> gentoo has the right idea, but i dont think they are open minded enough to say hey this is 2005, we need to do things a lil different and make this an interactable setup..
[11:20] <Gundjah> topyli - AFAIK it should boot to runlevel defined in inittab. What am I missing here?
[11:20] <topyli> volvoguy: like jdub says, "the ultimate sticky wiki" :)
[11:20] <volvoguy> topyli, yep!
[11:20] <Gundjah> I want to boot to text thingy and start my X when I want to, not when Ubuntu wants to
[11:21] <topyli> Gundjah: i guess you are booting to runlevel 3, but it's identical to 2
[11:21] <walde> kakalto, do you have another os working with this card- i got the same problem some  years ago with a dlink-card doesnt wake up only after rebooting another os
[11:21] <kakalto> it works under win be
[11:21] <kataklsym> they can implement every good feature about gentoo into an interactive setup, without losing the the good things about it. and the geeks who want the 100% CLI install and take a few days setting it up, well they could have that option if they wanted to
[11:21] <kakalto> *me
[11:21] <topyli> Gundjah: boot to runlevel 2 but disable gdm
[11:21] <Sarr-chan> please guys, am i able to emulate snes roms on ubuntu... >.<
[11:21] <kakalto> walde, it's an old computer, the card works w/ winme
[11:22] <kakalto> walde, but the lights are on on the card...
[11:22] <walde> hmmm, you are sure the card is correctly build in... pci-card have mysterious behaviour if not
[11:22] <dwerf> is there a linux equivalent to total commander?
[11:22] <atila_sendil> Sarr-chan, I got zsnes Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM) in synaptic
[11:22] <Gundjah> topyli - runlevel 2 identical to 3????
[11:22] <Gundjah>     *  0 - Halt the system
[11:22] <Gundjah>     * 1 - Single-user mode
[11:22] <Gundjah>     * 2 - Multi-user mode (without NFS)
[11:22] <Gundjah>     * 3 - Multi-user mode
[11:22] <Gundjah>     * 5 - Multi-user mode, graphical login
[11:22] <Gundjah>     * 6 - Reboot the system
[11:23] <Gundjah> Sorry for short flood
[11:23] <Sarr-chan> oh! atila, ty. i spelled it with ZNES. and not Zsnes
[11:23] <Sarr-chan> thanks thanks thanks ^^
[11:23] <atila_sendil> Sarr-chan, no problem :-)=
[11:23] <johndarkhorse> Gundjah: use a pastebin next time, please
[11:23] <atila_sendil> so anybody ever tried to install ubuntu on a Via epia mini-itx ? I got it working but video playback is too slow . . .
[11:24] <Sarr-chan> goddam thing, atila_sendil, you are not on amd64 right?
[11:24] <Gundjah> johndarkhorse - yap, sorry, but don't have any browsers but links at the moment :-)
[11:24] <atila_sendil> Sarr-chan, nope ... use X86 ... doesn't the package work for amd64 ?
[11:24] <darksatanic> atila_sendil: I don't have Ubuntu on mine -- I have Debian.
[11:25] <atila_sendil> Sarr-chan, you may search reps for nes only :-)
[11:25] <Sarr-chan> atila_sendil: i can find it. and that means its not for amd64
[11:25] <Sarr-chan> okay ^^'
[11:25] <kakalto> walde, "correctly build in"?
[11:25] <crimsun> Debian-based distros don't play runlevel games, Gundjah
[11:25] <crimsun> 2-5 are identical
[11:25] <topyli> Gundjah: that's not a debian inittab
[11:25] <topyli> Gundjah: in debian, runlevels 2-5 are identical until you customize them
[11:25] <kakalto> walde, if it works perfectly under win, it must be just a driver issue, right?
[11:25] <darksatanic> atila_sendil: You need to get quite a lot of bits working together to use the MPEG2 slice decoder on the CLE266 chipset.
[11:25] <atila_sendil> darksatanic, do you have good video performance ? and I everything works except hardware acceleration ...
[11:26] <Gundjah> topyli - nope, I got it from HOWTO.
[11:26] <atila_sendil> darksatanic, oops... anywhere to start reading ?
[11:26] <darksatanic> I used to until quite recently, and it broke on an upgrade. I haven't sorted it out yet.
[11:26] <Gundjah> crimson - could u pls elaborate?
[11:26] <darksatanic> atila_sendil: http://myth.ivor.org/unichrome/ and http://unichrome.sourceforge.net/
[11:26] <[LethAL] > I have a major problem. I can't login graphically. GDM says there isn't enough space in the authorization file and KDM doesn't mention anything. Anyone have any ideas?
[11:27] <darksatanic> atila_sendil: Some of the stuff is already rolled into the relevant packages; some isn't.
[11:27] <darksatanic> So recent kernels are OK, for example. I'm not sure about X.org or xine/totem.
[11:27] <atila_sendil> darksatanic, ty ; I had seen the unchrome sites but did not understand. I was beginning to search for another distro but don't want to ...
[11:28] <atila_sendil> darksatanic, better start reading :-) ty again ...
[11:28] <darksatanic> I don't think any other distribution has good integration of Unichrome, either.
[11:28] <topyli> Gundjah: yeah, your HOWTO is talking about redhad-like distros
[11:28] <topyli> redhat even
[11:29] <darksatanic> There are some packages for Debian, but I'm not sure how well they're updated/supported.
[11:29] <walde> kakalto why does it work perfectly unter win? i thouht there is no win on this computer. i asked if you are sure, that the card is physically correctly plugged in into the pci-slot, just to be sure. hmmm yes it is a driver-hardware problem. cards should always be listable to lspci.  need to reboot cause a probelm with vmware - i have no shiftkey anymore
[11:29] <atila_sendil> darksatanic, I do not need much updates; when it works I will put it back under the tv as the TV-box :-)
[11:29] <volvoguy> anyone here use an epson c86 printer by chance?
[11:30] <atila_sendil> darksatanic, I want to get rid of MS Windows through the house :-)
[11:31] <Alex_BO> HELLO! I'm looking for modules.conf but i can't find it in ubuntu.where is it?
[11:32] <Gundjah> topyli - maybe.
[11:32] <[LethAL] > Alex_BO: You might just be looking for /etc/modules
[11:33] <Alex_BO> [LethAL] , but there are modules to load at boot. I need to configure some modules
[11:34] <Gundjah> topyli - got firefox installed, now I'm trying to figure out how to disable GDM, but no luck. How to?
[11:34] <[LethAL] > Alex_BO: I don't know, I assumed there was one in etc, obviously not
[11:35] <chaosmind> can more than one keyboard shortcut be assigned to the same action?
[11:35] <topyli> Gundjah: debian has update-rc.d but you have to read the man page. it's easier to install sysv-rc-conf :)
[11:35] <[LethAL] > Gundjah: perhaps apt-get remove gdm or killall gdm <-Temp
[11:35] <kakalto> walde, I'm running dual-boot on the computer with the non
[11:35] <kakalto> non-working net card
[11:35] <kakalto> winME/ubuntu
[11:35] <kakalto> ubuntulog, I just installed
[11:35] <kakalto> GAH
[11:36] <kakalto> STUPID XCHAT
[11:36] <[LethAL] > chaosmind: It shouldn't be that hard to go find out for yourself ;)
[11:36] <kakalto> sorry ubuntulog
[11:36] <pkern> How are the logical volumes aligned in a physical volumes? In any case contiguous? Can they be moved within a physical volume if the free space is sufficient?
[11:36] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: were you put here to test us or vex us?
[11:36] <Gundjah> topyli - tnx :-)
[11:36] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, what'd i do now?
[11:37] <chaosmind> [LethAL] : since google turns up a big zero, i'll take that as a no!  =P
[11:37] <darksatanic> pkern: Not necessarily contiguous, but you can specify that a volume is contiguous when it's created.
[11:37] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: printer cartridge whatever
[11:37] <kakalto> walde, I'm running dual-boot on the computer with the non-working ethernet card, winMe/ubuntu (which I u
[11:37] <kakalto> darn it
[11:37] <darksatanic> pkern: They can be moved from one PV to another within a VG using "pvmove", but I don't think there's tools to move them within a PV.
[11:38] <[LethAL] > chaosmind: I didn't mean google, I meant try it for yourself
[11:38] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - apt-get remove would uninstall, and that's not quite what I want to do yet. Just boot to text mode, and start X manually with some other WM. I'm n00b 'nuff to still need the tools available in the default WM :-)
[11:38] <noobler> how do i execute netbeans -_-
[11:39] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, oh... hoary autodetected the printer and used the c80 gimp-print drive and breezy didn't detect it, so i wanted to see if anyone had success with the later generation drivers. i did a test print with c84 and it indeed works. not sure if it's any better than the other though.
[11:39] <[LethAL] > Gundjah: Oh... I dunno then ;)
[11:39] <pkern> darksatanic: This means the extents are allocated like they're available to the LV so it could become scattered all over two PVs?
[11:39] <chaosmind> [LethAL] : yeah, once you assign Super R to the menu, you can no longer have Super L do the same thing (like in Winderz)
[11:39] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, yup. :-)
[11:39] <darksatanic> pkern: I believe that's the case, yes. I don't know if there's a "defrag" tool for it, though.
[11:39] <Gundjah> Another stupidity which I simply cannot seem to be able to fix is that Ubuntu doesn't let me use resolution >1024*768 (Gnome, I haven't tested the others yet). What can I do to that?
[11:40] <chaosmind> [LethAL] : i'm trying tomake the system work so i can spring it on Winderz users at my school as a replacement!
[11:40] <[LethAL] > chaosmind: Hehe
[11:40] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - killall might work :-) I'll have to try - dirty way but if it works...
[11:40] <pkern> darksatanic: Thanks.
[11:40] <johndarkhorse> !tell Gundjah about resolution
[11:40] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, at least i don't come in asking for help with my toshiba laptop every day anymore. :-)
[11:40] <darksatanic> pkern: https://www.redhat.com/archives/linux-lvm/2002-November/msg00026.html
[11:41] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: what is that?
[11:41] <[LethAL] > Gundjah: Ofcourse... you could just switch vterminals (Ctrl-Alt-F1 to 7)
[11:41] <k31th> guys, i need to buy a wifi USB that works in linux
[11:41] <noobler> i have netbeans-4_1-linux.bin on my desktop (just downloaded from sun site) and i've chmod +x it, but i dbl click it and it only shows a dialog saying i need to rename a correct extension for "executable" or select app to open with?
[11:41] <johndarkhorse> k31th: netgear ma111
[11:41] <lsuactiafner> pkern : continuous i think
[11:41] <k31th> 54mbp one if possible
[11:41] <lsuactiafner> pkern : but linux doesnt become fragmented.
[11:42] <stelki> Hello, am I the only one having trouble with AmaroK? It seems to crash on me very often. I'm using the latest version from the package manager.
[11:42] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, one of the machines that Canonical gave away for testing. seems i'm the only one having problems still. we've narrowed it down to disk modules being loaded in the wrong order.
[11:42] <pkern> lsuactiafner: That depends on the file system. And ext2/3 have fragmentation, too.
[11:42] <pkern> darksatanic: Thank you, that helps.
[11:42] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - yap. Then I am on text mode - but it's still not the same. Not booting to Gnome by default is what I want to do.
[11:42] <lsuactiafner> pkern : like 4%
[11:43] <stelki> I'm using sqllite btw
[11:43] <k31th> johndarkhorse: yeah??
[11:43] <_rb_> heyas.
[11:43] <pkern> lsuactiafner: Yep.
[11:43] <marc`> Kernal Panic - not synching: attempted to kill init!
[11:43] <lsuactiafner> after several years it will still be @ 4%
[11:43] <[LethAL] > Gundjah: I dunno if you can disable it..
[11:43] <_rb_> hey i was following the ubuntu guide, and i cant seem to get php to work after installing it. where is it declared, like where is the inifile saying how to handle .php files
[11:43] <k31th> deff works does it? as im converting this windows user to the worl of linux
[11:43] <darksatanic> lsuactiafner: All modern filesystems suffer from fragmentation. It's just that most manage to keep it to a minimum unless the filesystem becomes _very_ full.
[11:43] <stelki> _rb_, in apache?
[11:43] <_rb_> yeah
[11:44] <johndarkhorse> k31th: yes, it uses the prism chip i believe and works with minimal software tweaking
[11:44] <stelki> I'm trying to figure too hehe
[11:44] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - ... what the funk of a Linux box is it supposed to be, if you canNOT choose your WM???
[11:44] <pkern> Hm. But then the choice of filesystem remains... ext2/3 is the only filesystem which could be shrinked?
[11:44] <k31th> johndarkhorse: kool
[11:44] <_rb_> it was workin fine. then i updated to php5 to try and import a wiki dump.
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> darksatanic : am on 2 80G that fill up to the last 15mb every other day before i delete like 15G
[11:44] <[LethAL] > Gundjah: You can choose it, assuming you have a nother, I just haven't tried disabling it
[11:44] <_rb_> that farkd out too, so i've gone back to 4. it just wont work
[11:44] <eobanb> disabling what?
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> mp3s small files .vob everything
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> but yes.
[11:45] <kuru> okay guys.. I just upgraded some things from hoary to breezy
[11:45] <kuru> and X died
[11:45] <johndarkhorse> k31th: try finding a wifi usb stick that works on ppc linux (cant run ndiswrapper on ppc)
[11:45] <kuru> seems that it's a common problem, but none of the fixes on the forums seem to do it for me
[11:45] <eobanb> kuru, what's the output
[11:45] <keyes> Hello !
[11:45] <kuru> could not open default font 'fixed';
[11:45] <lsuactiafner> kuru : dist-upgrade, not some things...
[11:45] <eobanb> there are a billion reasons for x not to work
[11:45] <chaosmind> Gundjah: what Ubuntu needs is a runlevel editor, so you can easily edit runlevel 3 (for instance) not to launch GDM
[11:45] <kuru> lsuactiafner, all i wanted was hpijs and hplip
[11:45] <_rb_> kuru, are you using nvidia ?
[11:45] <k31th> johndarkhorse: yeah i dont want to use ndiswrapper
[11:45] <kuru> not sure why it upgraded Xorg as well
[11:45] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - apt-get installed BlackBox directly to the session menu. Didn't do the same for Enlightenment - that's why I'm trying to find the way to do it manually.
[11:45] <kuru> _rb_, no, "vesa"
[11:46] <_rb_> ah
[11:46] <eobanb> you werent using xorg before?
[11:46] <keyes> Is there a way to know if a computer is running hoary, warty or breezy without open sources.list ?
[11:46] <johndarkhorse> k31th: give the netgear ma111 a shot
[11:46] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, doesn't the dlink dwl-g122 work? http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=1&pid=334
[11:46] <kuru> _rb_, I have an i810 chip so it doesn't do anything above 1024x768 :(
[11:46] <[LethAL] > Gundjah: selectwm
[11:46] <kuru> eobanb, yup
[11:46] <_rb_> uhuh
[11:46] <lsuactiafner> kuru : something compiled for breezy wont work on your system, different glibc as far as i understand.
[11:46] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - never heard :-)
[11:46] <eobanb> xfree to xorg often breaks stuff
[11:46] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: i got the info on the ma111 right from a horses mouth on its functionality ootb
[11:46] <kuru> lsuactiafner, I can understand the glibc stuff.. which was upgrded..
[11:46] <[LethAL] > Gundjah: Wuh?
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> kuru : if you want those apps compile from from source next time
[11:47] <Sarr-chan> lol, its actually quite funny watching noobs run around in ubuntu-unregged asking questions about their ubuntu problems =P
[11:47] <kuru> lsuactiafner, hardly a reasonable way to do things
[11:47] <chaosmind> Gundjah: enlightenment won't add to the list automatically; see here:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46105&highlight=e17
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> kuru : but right now your xorg aint compiled for the new glibc aint it?
[11:47] <kuru> lsuactiafner, so it did upgrade it.. makes sense
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> kuru : 2 source packages do not take any time @ all.
[11:47] <eobanb> what's ubuntu-unregged?
[11:47] <kuru> lsuactiafner, not sure why the fonts are not able to open though
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> kuru : now your broken system takes up much more time
[11:47] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, so the netgear is the best pick at the moment huh? too bad i don't like netgear. :-|
[11:47] <lsuactiafner> kuru : do a dist-upgrade
[11:47] <johndarkhorse> eobanb: -unregged is the jail for spambots
[11:48] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - Never heard about "selectwm". Luckily apt has :-)
[11:48] <[LethAL] > Gundjah: That's what I mean
[11:48] <Gundjah> chaosmind - tnx.
[11:48] <kuru> lsuactiafner, doing it.. estimates a day to finish :(
[11:48] <lsuactiafner> volvoguy : asus has a usb thing 54mb/s compatible with linux
[11:48] <eobanb> heh
[11:48] <kuru> lsuactiafner, surely there is a quicker way ;)
[11:48] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: i dont care. when the warranty is over on this G4 ibook, the plastic is comin off the netgear and the guts of it are bein implanted in the case
[11:48] <lsuactiafner> kuru : will take me around 2 week to have my dist-upgrade finished.
[11:48] <chaosmind> Gundjah: enlightenment on Ubuntu isn't as easy as it should be; the eLive Cd was a real eye-opener!
[11:48] <lsuactiafner> kuru : no.
[11:48] <marc`> Kernal Panic - not synching: attempted to kill
[11:49] <marc`> ^ sounds bad
[11:49] <kuru> lsuactiafner, so I have one doing the upgrade and another one I'm trying to tinker with while the other is downloading
[11:49] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - YIIHAA! That one finds all three :-)
[11:49] <marc`> about 10 seconds into booting
[11:49] <[LethAL] > Gundjah: :D
[11:49] <[LethAL] > marc`: Just reinstall ;)
[11:49] <lsuactiafner> thats bullshit, dont reinstall.
[11:49] <lsuactiafner> marc` : what does the bootup process say before panic?
[11:50] <marc`> a lot of things
[11:50] <johndarkhorse> [LethAL] : once you've installed a *nix, there is never a reason to reinstall
[11:50] <chaosmind> LOL!
[11:50] <marc`> didnt write them all down
[11:50] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, i've seen people do that hack with usb bluetooth dongles.
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> well right before panic..
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> can't help you unless you know
[11:50] <chaosmind> "What does dmesg say?"  "A lot."
[11:50] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: same principle
[11:50] <marc`> k, brb
[11:50] <chaosmind> =)
[11:50] <Gundjah> chaosmind - how do you mean? I haven't done it before, just BlackBox, and that one runs OK. Albeit I have to build the complete menu system from scratch :-)
[11:50] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: of course, the day after i crack my ibook and give it the wifi implant, broadcom will open their drivers for it
[11:51] <lsuactiafner> Gundjah : there is some app for ubuntu that builds the menus
[11:51] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, i'm a musician. i'd just use duct tape and a 6" USB cable and tape the thing to the lid. :)
[11:51] <lsuactiafner> Gundjah : i have mine built after every apt-get and it drives me crazy
[11:51] <chaosmind> Gundjah: yeah, if you install BlackBox from Synaptic (or apt-get), it just shows up in the "sessions" menu automagically...
[11:51] <johndarkhorse> lsuactiafner: Gundjah: like smeg?
[11:51] <eobanb> broadcom will never open their drivers
[11:51] <lsuactiafner> since all my menus have is xterm
[11:51] <Furio_G> Hey folks. I've installed the codecs but still cant play mp3s(xmms and bmp). Also I talk in skype. :(
[11:51] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: ewwwww, you'd degrade the esthetics
[11:51] <[LethAL] > Furio_G: 'The Codecs'?
[11:51] <chaosmind> Gundjah: but after installing enlightenment that way, I had to follow the wiki instructions to manually create an "e" entry so I could launch e16 (e17 never worked for me).
[11:51] <volvoguy> i wish broadcom weren't so evil.
[11:52] <lsuactiafner> Furio_G : run alsamixer, your volume is turned down, up everything
[11:52] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: take your wishes to -offtopic
[11:52] <chaosmind> volvoguy: try complaining to RMS! ;-)
[11:52] <Gundjah> johndarkhorse - wtf is smeg?
[11:52] <eobanb> the reason i've heard broadcom doesnt open their drivers is that their radios are actually capable of transmitting on other frequencies, some of which are used by the US military
[11:52] <Furio_G> LethAl: The codecs from ubuntuguide.org
[11:52] <johndarkhorse> !tell Gundjah about smeg
[11:53] <chaosmind> Gundjah: i'm still waiting for the E-Ubuntu fork!  =)
[11:53] <gfunckers> _rb_
[11:53] <Gundjah> johndarkhores - tnx :-)
[11:53] <_rb_> Seveas, that was totally uncalled foir
[11:53] <johndarkhorse> !tell Furio_G about restricted formats
[11:53] <Gundjah> chaosmind - No wonder. I'm trying to keep an old PII in circulation, that's why I need to go lightweight.
[11:53] <gfunckers> _rb_ could u help me pls sharing my printer into 18 pc
[11:54] <Gundjah> The apps are heavy 'nuff
[11:54] <lsuactiafner> Gundjah : am running from a p166 atm but its my server
[11:54] <johndarkhorse> chaosmind: e17+ubuntu would be sweet, eh?
[11:54] <eobanb> gfunckers could you please not talk like youre on AIM
[11:54] <_rb_> there are others that can help u here
[11:54] <chaosmind> Gundjah: give the EliveCD a whirl: it's amazing how much eye-candy enlightenment can get out of older hardware!
[11:54] <[LethAL] > Right, I'm off to see if I can fix my own problem... *sigh*
[11:54] <gfunckers> what u mean ?
[11:54] <volvoguy> chaosmind, me too. i've been playing with e17 quite a bit.
[11:54] <gfunckers> AIM ?
[11:54] <chaosmind> Gundjah: yeah, e17 Ubuntu is my current dream!!
[11:55] <Seveas> _rb_, look closer, i'm cleaning out that channel
[11:55] <_rb_> oh
[11:55] <_rb_> heh
[11:55] <_rb_> little drunk :P
[11:55] <Gundjah> chaosmind - yap. I had a look, and if it delivers what it promises...
[11:55] <johndarkhorse> no living person is supposed to be in #ubuntu-unregged
[11:55] <rittap> can someone help me with a mount-problem?
[11:55] <johndarkhorse> _rb_: if you read the topic in there, you'd be prepared to be 'swept out'
[11:56] <johndarkhorse> rittap: if you tell us about it
[11:56] <chaosmind> Gundjah: don't get yer hopes up-- menu editing is still "pulling teeth" in e17... 'least compared to GNOME!
[11:56] <gfunckers> _rb_ could u give me a site for printer sharing
[11:56] <Gundjah> lsuactiafner - Yap. These oldies tend to be a bit cheaper, so network building is a lot cheaper :-)
[11:56] <Gundjah> chaosmind - I'd believe there is a manual way to do it, like with BBox.
[11:56] <nathanel> gfunckers: http://localhost:631/sam.html
[11:56] <rittap> well in my computer is a second hard-drive (NTFS) and i tried to mount that, but i cant access it except as root because it's read-only
[11:56] <gfunckers> ok
[11:57] <gfunckers> nathanel ^^
[11:57] <johndarkhorse> rittap: writing to NTFS is a sure way to have an all linux box
[11:57] <Furio_G> johndarkhorse: I've installed those codecs. Whenever I open the player it actually freezes. The track time bar doesnt move, nothing.
[11:57] <topyli> chaosmind: e17 is the longhorn of free software world
[11:57] <eobanb> johndarkhorse, haha
[11:57] <chaosmind> Gundjah: yeah, it's there, but under e17 things are changing quite quickly... heh!  you mean Vista!  ;-)
[11:57] <rittap> johndarkhorse: because i want to format it to ext3, i want to copy all the files
[11:58] <eobanb> if it's read-only, what's the problem with copying files from it
[11:58] <topyli> chaosmind: i do hope raster and friends pull it off. i was a big fan of e16 once
[11:58] <rittap> i can' t access it
[11:58] <marc`> /sbin/init: 428: cannot open dev/console: no such file
[11:58] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, i guess i should have used the verbose option for gpart. it's still sitting at "begin scan...". oops.
[11:58] <eobanb> what's the error message?
[11:58] <johndarkhorse> rittap: you can copy all the files from the NTFS drive
[11:58] <marc`> kernal panic - not synching: attempted to kill init!
[11:59] <johndarkhorse> !tell rittap about ntfs
[11:59] <Gundjah> chaosmind - thought so. Losing it would be agaist the spirit. M$ can keep the one-way-only approach as far as I'm concerned.
[11:59] <johndarkhorse> rittap: read the mail ubotu sent you
[11:59] <eobanb> i think dpkg is borked.
[11:59] <_rb_> Henyway....
[11:59] <chaosmind> toyyli: i have faith in raster... to follow his design whims! ;-)
[11:59] <_rb_> probs with php not getting recognised by apache
[11:59] <johndarkhorse> Furio_G: are you using hoary or breezy?
[11:59] <chaosmind> (oops... topyli, sorry!)
[11:59] <rittap> johndarkhorse: i'm going to try it now thanks
[11:59] <eobanb> hi, dpkg
[12:00] <johndarkhorse> rittap: instructions are at the top of the script (read it in any text editor/pager)
[12:00] <eobanb> oh, wait..
[12:00] <topyli> chaosmind: he is a free thinker isn't he :)
[12:00] <eobanb> dpkg isnt even in this channel..
[12:00] <topyli> eobanb: no, we have ubotu
[12:00] <eobanb> yeah :)
[12:00] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - selectwm page says it should run when you start X. Have you tried this on Ubuntu?
[12:00] <Furio_G> johndarkhorse: Horay. This is my 4th install(happens all the time)
[12:01] <eobanb> sorry it's 5 here, i'm tired :)
[12:01] <_rb_> i stopped counting how many times i installed, mainly due to not wanting to loose downloaded data
[12:01] <rittap> johndarkhorse: where should i put the script??
[12:01] <_rb_> its 10 here, get hard :P
[12:02] <johndarkhorse> Furio_G: i'd think that you'd try to learn the problem so you can quit reinstalling (reinstalling is non productive)
[12:02] <ssh_rdp> hi , i got a problem using breezy , i cant make gcc-3.3 as the default compiler and some of my apps aren't compatible with gcc-4.0
[12:02] <rittap> johndarkhorse: just in /etc/??
[12:03] <johndarkhorse> rittap: you may execute it and throw it away
[12:03] <eobanb> gcc 4 is default in breezy?
[12:03] <rittap> johndarkhorse: okay
[12:03] <johndarkhorse> rittap: you can save it anywhere you like, it only needs to be run once
[12:03] <eobanb> i need to look at the breezy changelog.....
[12:04] <Gundjah> Apropos Breezy. If I'm running Hoary, does apt-get dist-upgrade ... well, upgrade to Breezy?
[12:04] <ssh_rdp> yes
[12:04] <topyli> ssh_rdp: /usr/bin/gc  is just a link, managed by the alternatives system. you can set the compiler variable (i don't remember how exactly) when compiling, or you can change the link to point to 3.3
[12:04] <marc`> /sbin/init: 428: cannot open dev/console: no such file
[12:04] <marc`> kernal panic - not synching: attempted to kill init!
[12:05] <Furio_G> johndarkhorse: Na i dont reinstall because of this. I have experimented over the last month with many distros. Now i've come to the conclusion that Ubuntu is best. But each time i installed Ubuntu i couldnt get it to work. Now that i've decided on Ubuntu, iI was to isntall it ocne and for all with everything working :)
[12:05] <char1iecha1k> im struggling to setup a vpn client can someone assist please
[12:05] <Furio_G> ok that didnt make sense
[12:05] <nathanel> Gundjah: no, unless you also add breezy to your sources.list
[12:05] <johndarkhorse> Furio_G: then there are other folks to ask about sound then me, i run ppc hardware and it's all different
[12:05] <Furio_G> johndarkhorse: ok mate, not probs. Thanks for your help :)
[12:05] <ssh_rdp> i tried that but when i try to compile something with gcc-3.3 i get some problems with libraries compiled with gcc-4
[12:06] <Gundjah> nathanel - figures. Do you happen to know the repositories?
[12:06] <Leshrac> hello
[12:06] <nathanel> ssh_rdp: export CC=gcc-3.3 CPP=cpp-3.3 CXX=g++-3.3 ./configure
[12:06] <Leshrac> can somebody tell me how to download a file in command line?
[12:06] <PlutoPrime> wget url
[12:07] <Sarr-chan> leshrac: wget
[12:07] <liable> wget
[12:07] <Leshrac> thanks
[12:07] <nathanel> Gundjah: just replace hoary with breezy
[12:07] <char1iecha1k> what is the easiest way to get vpn going?
[12:08] <Gundjah> nathanel - well that does sound logical indeed :-)
[12:08] <Gundjah> K. Let's reboot and see what did we break this time :-D
[12:08] <PlutoPrime> Gundjah, modify your repositories and everywhere you see the word hoary replace it with breezy
[12:08] <ssh_rdp> nathanel:  thank you
[12:09] <scaroo> hi ppl !!
[12:09] <volvoguy> char1iecha1k, i can give you zero details, but searching around for a friend revealed "openvpn" and "openswan" available for ubuntu.
[12:09] <PlutoPrime> char1iecha1k, you can go to ubuntuforums and search, maybe there are guides
[12:09] <claudia_> hello
[12:09] <claudia_> i have problems
[12:10] <marc`> who doesnt?
[12:10] <claudia_> i cant play back video properly
[12:10] <char1iecha1k> PlutoPrime i have been searching and found lots but they are very complicated and i cant seem to figure out how to get any of them going so i want to start with the easiest
[12:10] <claudia_> it stutters sometimes
[12:10] <claudia_> and i cant playback dvds
[12:10] <eobanb> stutters sometimes?
[12:10] <eobanb> how fast is your CPU?
[12:10] <PlutoPrime> claudia_, using totem?
[12:10] <ssh_rdp> did you see ubuntuguide.org?
[12:11] <claudia_> yes, runs perfectly for about 5 seconds, then stops for about 100 milliseconds, then again
[12:11] <scaroo> i am using mergedfb to handle multiscreen, it works fine but the WM seems confused : windows appear randomly on the first or second display ... is there any way to fine tune it ?
[12:11] <claudia_> yes, totem
[12:11] <PlutoPrime> claudia_, is this totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[12:11] <claudia_> gstreamer
[12:11] <rittap> johndarkhorse: it says no usable partitions found
[12:11] <claudia_> i have a 450 mhz pentium3 here
[12:11] <rittap> do i first have to mount it
[12:11] <johndarkhorse> ssh_rdp: please dont advise the ubuntuguide
[12:11] <PlutoPrime> claudia_, if you want decent video playback I highly recommend totem-xine
[12:11] <johndarkhorse> rittap: really?
[12:11] <johndarkhorse> rittap: how weird
[12:12] <claudia_> and gmplayer is terribly slow
[12:12] <PlutoPrime> I ave had very poor performance and bad experience with that
[12:12] <rittap> johndarkhorse: what i said
[12:12] <ssh_rdp> johndarkhorse: why?
[12:12] <PlutoPrime> claudia_, try this , system->prefrences->multimedia system selector
[12:12] <PlutoPrime> then change to the video tab
[12:12] <|maddox|> claudia_: compile, it will be faster
[12:12] <eobanb> 450 MHz...that's about on the threshold of dvd playback...unless you have a DVD drive with hardware MPEG?
[12:12] <rittap> johndarkhorse, now what?
[12:13] <PlutoPrime> claudia_, what is the output set to?
[12:14] <claudia_> videosink is "Xv"
[12:14] <johndarkhorse> rittap: is your NTFS partition healthy?
[12:14] <PlutoPrime> claudia_, when you hit test does it show the color bars?
[12:14] <marc`> so ill just reinstall and try not to rip my hair out?
[12:15] <fek> morghn
[12:15] <marc`> sounds fun, only took 20 attempts to install last time
[12:15] <gfunckers> how can i open a file into other computer ?
[12:15] <rittap> johndarkhorse, this is what it said:
[12:15] <eobanb> gfunckers, what?
[12:15] <claudia_> PlutoPrime, yes
[12:15] <PlutoPrime> gfunckers, could you rephrase that?
[12:15] <rittap> johndarkhorse, did you get the pm?
[12:16] <gfunckers> i want to open my file that i save here into another computer
[12:16] <gfunckers> by using networking
[12:16] <johndarkhorse> rittap: does your ntfs partition have a funny name?
[12:16] <rittap> johndarkhorse, yeah i gave a name in windows
[12:16] <PlutoPrime> claudia_, then it seems you have overlay enabled... I suggest installing totem-xine see if that fixes the performance issues
[12:17] <rittap> johndarkhorse, i believe it had a space
[12:17] <johndarkhorse> rittap: can you rename it in windows?
[12:17] <Leshrac> is there any way I can download the ati video drivers via apt-get install?
[12:17] <rittap> johndarkhorse, can i rename it in terminal/
[12:17] <Micksa> so
[12:17] <Micksa> how do I tell gdm or whatever to run my ~/.xsession?
[12:18] <gfunckers> my file was in station1 and i want it to open here in station18
[12:18] <johndarkhorse> rittap: i dont advise writing to ntfs in any fashion
[12:18] <walde> Is ISA-Support compiled into ubuntu-standardkernel?
[12:18] <rittap> johndarkhorse, i'll see if i can
[12:19] <gfunckers> i already share it, but the file i save does was not shown
[12:19] <gfunckers> i already shar it, but the file was not shown
[12:20] <kemik> gfunckers:  got samba or nfs setup?
[12:20] <PlutoPrime> gfunckers, you can browse manually by opening a nautilus browser window, type smb://ipaddress/
[12:20] <PlutoPrime> in the address bar
[12:21] <gfunckers> hmm
[12:21] <gfunckers> kk i try
[12:21] <marc`> im about to reinstall
[12:21] <marc`> someone hold me back
[12:21] <tamarack> does anyone here happen to have ubuntu running on a gateway laptop?
[12:23] <tamarack> I'm getting an "mtrr is not aligned on a size boundary" error using the i915 driver
[12:23] <johndarkhorse> marc`: the more you reinstall b/c you dont understand something, the more the lack of understanding will hold you back
[12:23] <marc`> you have a better idea?
[12:24] <johndarkhorse> marc`: fix what's ailing you/it
[12:24] <marc`> /sbin/init: 428: cannot open dev/console: no such file
[12:24] <marc`> kernal panic - not synching: attempted to kill init!
[12:24] <chaosmind> johndarkhorse: painful wisdom.
[12:24] <johndarkhorse> marc`: is it hoary or breezy?
[12:24] <marc`> 5.04
[12:24] <marc`> i dont know the names yet, only had it running once
[12:25] <johndarkhorse> marc`: ah. have you tried colony 4?
[12:25] <marc`> havent really had a chance.
[12:25] <marc`> it wont boot
[12:25] <marc`> hoary
[12:25] <topyli> marc`: most times a reinstall will just give you the same problems you had if you install the same system the same way. if you know what to do differently, only then it might help
[12:26] <johndarkhorse> marc`: what kind of hardware is it on?
[12:26] <Zhukov_> hi everyone
[12:26] <marc`> more specific what hardware?
[12:26] <marc`> 386 architechure, pentium 4,
[12:26] <johndarkhorse> marc`: what kind of computer hardware are you gettin the kernel panics on?
[12:27] <johndarkhorse> marc`: is it smokin hot new?
[12:27] <marc`> 9 months old
[12:27] <Zhukov_> CAn anyone help me please? I getting beagle to work at full power, but  i need to patch wv and the website reffers to a page with this:
[12:27] <Zhukov_> http://users.avafan.com/~fredrik/beagle/wv-libole2-readonly.patch
[12:27] <johndarkhorse> marc`: try colony-4 or a daily breezy install disc   cdimage.ubuntu.com
[12:27] <mata_svada> hey guys, i have got a major problem here: i can't really boot my ubunut system anymore...
[12:27] <Zhukov_> how do i install this???
[12:29] <mata_svada> i can't even login in the console. it says: could find /home/mata (=my nick)
[12:29] <mata_svada> is it possible thata my file system is broken (I'm using reiserfs)
[12:29] <Zhukov_> mata_svada, boot with a live cd and chec the disks
[12:30] <mata_svada> right now i'm using a live cd
[12:30] <mata_svada> how do i check the disks??
[12:30] <Zhukov_> Cmon folks, can anyone tell me how to install that thing?
[12:30] <Zhukov_> mata_svada, do you still have the home folder?
[12:30] <Seveas> mata_svada, fsck /dev/yourdrive
[12:31] <Zhukov_> :S
[12:32] <mata_svada> it say it can't read the superblock and that i'm not usinf ext2
[12:32] <mata_svada> ??
[12:33] <Hoxzer> where is mplayer's suorce directory?
[12:33] <Zhukov_> mata_svada, can you acess your data?
[12:33] <mata_svada> it all happed when i tried to compile mplayer...
[12:33] <mata_svada> no
[12:33] <mata_svada> i cant mount the reiserfs partition
[12:33] <Zhukov_> none of your folders?
[12:33] <Zhukov_> oh ok
[12:33] <Zhukov_> ext3doesnt have a backup tool, ext2 does, i dunno about reiserfs
[12:34] <mata_svada> so, any ideas??
[12:34] <Micksa> I want my ~/.xsession :(
[12:35] <oracel> :(
[12:35] <mata_svada> actually, i can read the partition now...
[12:36] <mata_svada> i used the konsole instead of the file-browser
[12:36] <Zhukov_> mata_svada, lol,then copy the files and format the pc
[12:36] <peterretief> is beagle the next release or is it a sausage dog
[12:36] <volvoguy> ext3 IS ext2 with a journal layer, isn't it?
[12:36] <Zhukov_> and use a stable filesystem
[12:36] <steven_Laptop> morning all someone got a link for how to get vmware working on 5.10
[12:36] <Zhukov_> peterretief, beagle is a serach tool
[12:37] <volvoguy> peterretief, Dapper Drake is the next release.
[12:37] <mata_svada> all the files or just my home directory
[12:37] <johndarkhorse> volvoguy: tell me when Stinky Skunk is coming out, please
[12:37] <sorush20> Gundjah: the only reason why you have to identify your self on this server is because the server is under attack from spam bot..
[12:38] <volvoguy> johndarkhorse, i think that was unreleased. pre-warty. :)
[12:38] <char1iecha1k> there is somehting wrong with my deafult.conf for vpnc im stuck
[12:38] <mata_svada> by the way, is ext3 stable?
[12:38] <topyli> peterretief: beagle is in breezy universe
[12:38] <volvoguy> mata_svada, yes.
[12:38] <deFrysk> mata_svada, extremely stable
[12:38] <ompaul> mata_svada, very
[12:38] <Gundjah> sorush20 - I have nothing against identifying. Why?
[12:38] <peterretief> ah thanks guys
[12:38] <johndarkhorse> see y'all later
[12:38] <volvoguy> later johndarkhorse
[12:39] <mata_svada> ok, so i just copy all the files to a partition, format the reserfs - partition, and thats it??
[12:39] <theD3viL> How to set up iso-8895-2 in xmms? PLEASE HELP ME!
[12:39] <mata_svada> would that work??
[12:41] <Alex_BO> HELLO!How can i see if my mic works?
[12:41] <Gundjah> LOL
[12:41] <mata_svada> ....
[12:41] <Zhukov_> ...
[12:41] <keith-> Alex_BO: blow into it.
[12:41] <sorush20> how do I make sure that my AGP graphics card which an ATI has been fully installed on ubuntu
[12:41] <Zhukov_> loool
[12:41] <mata_svada> would be nice if you guys could tell me what to do
[12:41] <Micksa> FINE
[12:41] <Micksa> I'LL FIGURE IT OUT MYSELF THEN
[12:41] <keith-> sorush20: fglrxinfo  <-- what's the output from that
[12:41] <Alex_BO> keith-, okey. i can't see anything
[12:41] <yasmani> hey there... i have a problem... whenever i start ubuntu i only see the round cursor and a black screen. i can move the cursor and everything, but i never see the gdm-login-screen.... any ideas?
[12:41] <Zhukov_> mata_svada, copy the to another partition, or pc
[12:41] <Micksa> SOME SUPPORT CHANNEL I WANT MY MONEY BACK
[12:42] <topyli> Alex_BO: say "one two one two, testing testing, one two"
[12:42] <volvoguy> keith-, i hope that's a joke. don't blow into a mic. just talk into it.
[12:42] <mata_svada> the 'to'?
[12:42] <Gundjah> Micksa - what's your problem???
[12:42] <Alex_BO> topyli, nothing
[12:42] <mata_svada> whats that?
[12:42] <Zhukov_> and format that one to ext3 or to the all secure ext2
[12:42] <keith-> volvoguy: i prefer to blow things.
[12:42] <topyli> ewww
[12:42] <volvoguy> i prefer not to buy new things when mold grows on them.
[12:43] <volvoguy> or they rust.
[12:43] <topyli> that's sage advice
[12:43] <Alex_BO> topyli, keith-: is there a test or something else?
[12:43] <yasmani> does anyone have an idea on my problem or know where i can research?
[12:43] <marc`> downloaded a theme for firefox, got a .jar file (im guessing similar to zip), where to extract it, i cant find the equiv of program files
[12:43] <yasmani> maybe i could just reinstall the whole system?
[12:43] <marc`> this is once i get it loading...
[12:43] <ompaul> theD3viL, first up caps are considered shouting .. second xmms right click (title bar - hard to see but the top of the app)  options - preferences - fonts - browse - filter - CAPS OFF   ,,,, :)
[12:43] <giovann> can some one give a site for printer sharing
[12:43] <keith-> Alex_BO: run sound recorder...
[12:43] <ompaul> Micksa, give it a break and caps off please
[12:44] <Gundjah> marc - firefox themes, just double-click and let FFox install by itself.
[12:44] <topyli> Alex_BO: just the gnome volume monitor or another tool that checks if noise is coming in
[12:44] <marc`> it didnt
[12:44] <marc`> it opened a .jar file
[12:44] <Gundjah> mrac` - that-s a LOT easier
[12:44] <sorush20> keith I get no output
[12:44] <keith-> sorush20: are you in X?
[12:44] <sorush20> keith-: I'm in KDE
[12:45] <giovann> any one know a site of printer sharing ?
[12:45] <keith-> fglrxinfo should say something then... did you run it in a terminal or using the run thingy?
[12:45] <elvirolo> hi all
[12:45] <marc`> it should workm but it doesnt
[12:45] <rittap> exit
[12:45] <sorush20> keith-: terminal
[12:45] <Gundjah> marc' - they are .jar files. If you allow websites to install software in your FireFox preferences, then click the "Install" it should do it. Have a try.
[12:45] <char1iecha1k> what is ipsec id and ipsec secret on vpnc??? when usiung winslows all i need is username and password and ip
[12:45] <keith-> sorush20: and it said nothing?  not even a command not found?
[12:45] <Alex_BO> keith-, topyli nothing
[12:46] <elvirolo> could anyone help me and confirm (or not) a bug i'm experiencing ?
[12:46] <theD3viL> ompaul, what about xmms menu?
[12:46] <Micksa> gundjah: ubuntu appears not to honor ~/.Xsession
[12:46] <marc`> when i get ubuntu working again
[12:46] <keith-> Alex_BO: did you check the volumes on it?
[12:46] <sorush20> keith-: command not found..
[12:46] <Micksa> but, as it turns out
[12:46] <Micksa> it does run ~/.gnomerc
[12:46] <Alex_BO> keith-, i run alsamixer
[12:46] <Micksa> so whatever
[12:46] <keith-> sorush20: and you typed it exact?  fglrxinfo  <-- no typo?  if the command isn't there then you don't have it installed.
[12:46] <Gundjah> Micksa - that's illuminating indeed...
[12:47] <sorush20> keith-: yes I copied and pated..
[12:47] <elvirolo> when i change my network settings in "network settings" (kcontrol) from dhcp to static ip and then apply the settings, it goes backto dhcp
[12:47] <sorush20> keith-:  pasted
[12:47] <keith-> sorush20: xorg-driver-fglrx  <-- sudo aptitude install that
[12:48] <Alex_BO> keith-, any help?
[12:48] <keith-> sorush20: and if you haven't already install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[12:48] <keith-> Alex_BO: no clue.
[12:48] <Zaacc> umm i was wondering, is it possible for a ubuntu server to work with 32mb of ram?
[12:48] <Zaacc> thanks :)
[12:48] <elvirolo> is it relevant to report bugs related to internationalisation yet ?
[12:49] <sorush20> thanks keith
[12:49] <keith-> sorush20: running hoary or breezy?
[12:50] <sorush20> keith-: I think there should be a popup message when the kernel detects the radeon AGp card..  then it should have told me to install the driver..
[12:50] <sorush20> keith-: I'm running hoary
[12:50] <keith-> sorush20: you think you are running windows?
[12:50] <keith-> sorush20: the fglrx driver isn't free software... hence... it's not stock.
[12:50] <Fr0Gs> how can i connect to a ppoe connection in Ubuntu then share it to a windows xp machine?
[12:50] <sorush20> keith-: no.. I'm not
[12:51] <keith-> sorush20: when you get those downloaded, run fglrxconfig ... set stuff up... restart X... back up your old copy of X before hand in case you screw up.
[12:51] <keith-> sorush20: or run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:51] <sorush20> keith-: what do you mean its not free.. I bought the hardware and I have the right to have it work correctly for me..
[12:51] <keith-> sorush20: it's not open source... it's not free software.  you obviously are new to linux.
[12:52] <sorush20> keith and anyone else there is a wiki on this. .https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ATI%29
[12:53] <keith-> sorush20: i'm aware of this.
[12:53] <Leshrac> my kubuntu starts in console mode, what do I do to make the graphical show up?
[12:53] <BROKEN_LADDER>  i've found the pattern.  every time i update (or downgrade) my kernel, i have to poke around to get sound working again.
[12:53] <keith-> Leshrac: hoary or breezy?
[12:53] <Leshrac> hoary
[12:53] <BROKEN_LADDER> there's no obvious method.  i just restart esd several times, try to switch xmms to use different devices, cause some stuff to crash, and eventually it works again permanently, until the next kernel change.
[12:53] <keith-> Leshrac: run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:54] <Leshrac> thanks
[12:54] <sorush20> I have a 686 kernel, the restricted modules I have is a 386 should I change. .
[12:54] <lsuactiafner> !kernel
[12:54] <keith-> sorush20: there is a 686 version of them
[12:54] <keith-> sorush20: hence me saying aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[12:56] <sorush20> keith-: should I remove the 386 and install the 686, what does the  aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` mean..
[12:57] <keith-> remove the 386 kernel?  if you aren't using it yes... and if you installed the 386 restricted yes... and it's a command...
[12:58] <char1iecha1k> is there a simple way to setup a vpn client to a windows box ? yes i have read all faqs etc and i am confused as to what to do
[12:59] <keith-> char1iecha1k: i believe ubuntu comes with realvnc  ... and i believe there is a windows client/server for realvnc as well...
[01:00] <char1iecha1k> i want vpn not vnc
[01:00] <char1iecha1k> i can already do vnc and rdesktop
[01:00] <Leshrac> keith- : I have ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, what do I do now?
[01:00] <char1iecha1k> im soo confused with this vpn i dont know what i need to do
[01:01] <char1iecha1k> i have every vpn client installed but i dont know which buttions to press spome help meeeeee
[01:01] <kemik> char1iecha1k:  we heard you the first time
[01:02] <keith-> Leshrac: sudo gdm
[01:02] <kemik> char1iecha1k:  try #networking or some channel like that
[01:02] <CrTr> how to add my dns's by console ?
[01:02] <Leshrac> keith- I'm running kde
[01:02] <char1iecha1k> i have even got a nice script to create a pptp connection which it does but after that i dont know how to start it
[01:02] <kemik> CrTr:  sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[01:02] <keith-> Leshrac: sudo kdm
[01:03] <Leshrac> keith-: prints no response
[01:03] <Leshrac> and well, does nothing visible
[01:03] <CrTr> gedit: command not found
[01:03] <Leshrac> use vi instead CrTr
[01:04] <keith-> Leshrac: does it toss an error?
[01:04] <Leshrac> no
[01:04] <Leshrac> I just get the command prompt
[01:04] <keith-> hit alt+f7 <-- anything there?
[01:05] <Leshrac> black screen
[01:05] <keith-> Leshrac: what's startx do?
[01:05] <BROKEN_LADDER> is there any way to "reset" alsa?
[01:06] <keith-> BROKEN_LADDER: do you have non-stock drivers for your soundcard?
[01:06] <Leshrac> it loads, thanks keith-
[01:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> no no..
[01:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> my sound works
[01:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> but every time i change my kernel, even if i change it and then change it back, my sound doesn't work until i poke around with a million things
[01:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> esd starts fine.  xmms appears to be playing.
[01:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> the red light on my spdif cable comes on.
[01:06] <BROKEN_LADDER> but no actual sound comes through.
[01:07] <keith-> what kind of sound card is it?
[01:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> every time i've fixed it, i've just done stuff like stop and restart esd, and make apps crash by telling them to use devices that they can't access
[01:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> ich6 on board audio
[01:07] <BROKEN_LADDER> realtek something er other
[01:08] <keith-> System-Preferences-Multimedia Systems Selector <-- what's the Output set to in that?
[01:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'm in kde
[01:08] <BROKEN_LADDER> i have everything using esd.  but even if i kill esd and have xmms, for instance, use alsa directly, it makes no difference
[01:09] <CrTr> (gedit:3536): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:              what to do ?
[01:11] <keith-> CrTr: try gedit --display :0
[01:12] <Nexinarus> since i have to be registered now to join #ubuntu, under GAIM is there a way to do auto-perform commands on server join? :S
[01:13] <Snoblower> can someone help me? i just finished burning the live CD onto a disk and now i can't figure out how to boot it
[01:13] <Nexinarus> nm
[01:13] <Nexinarus> Snoblower: try restart you're computer
[01:13] <Snoblower> i have, many times
[01:14] <Nexinarus> and make sure you're bios is set to boot off cdrom's
[01:14] <Snoblower> i don't know how to do that though
[01:14] <Nexinarus> how did you burn the iso to the cd anyway?
[01:14] <Nexinarus> what program/settings that is
[01:14] <Snoblower> i have no idea
[01:15] <Snoblower> i right clicke dthe icon on my desktop and sent it to my CDrom drive, then burned it
[01:15] <Nexinarus> when you put the cd into the drive (in windows presumably) what are the contents of the cd?
[01:15] <Snoblower> it was a blank cd
[01:15] <Nexinarus> ok now that you have burned it, what are the cd contents?
[01:16] <Snoblower> ubunutu-5.04-live-i386.iso
[01:16] <BROKEN_LADDER> i'd do anything for sound...anything for sound...anything, anything...for sound...
[01:16] <Nexinarus> sorry Snoblower you have burned it wrong :S
[01:17] <Snoblower> haha
[01:17] <Snoblower> damn...
[01:17] <Nexinarus> ok so you dont have Nero?
[01:17] <Snoblower> nope...
[01:17] <Nexinarus> ok.. ill try find software to burn it.. 1 sec
[01:17] <giovann> oh thanks
[01:17] <Nexinarus> !iso
[01:17] <ubotu> Nexinarus: I give up, what is it?
[01:18] <giovann> any one here know what is the site of printer sharing ?
[01:18] <apsync> hi, what is a good C/C++ editor for linux?
[01:19] <giovann> pls tell me what is the site of printer sharing
[01:19] <thenuke> giovann: google?
[01:19] <Nexinarus> Snoblower: try get this: http://www.afterdawn.com/software/dawnload.cfm?mirror=0&software_id=298
[01:19] <Nexinarus> its called DVD decrypter..
[01:19] <Nexinarus> but it also burns iso's to cd's
[01:20] <kataklsym> roxio and nero both burn iso's too
[01:20] <Nexinarus> apsync: try Anjuta, or Kdevelop. Or if you can manage to download/install, Eclipse is quite a big (but good) editor.
[01:21] <kataklsym> it would be a wise idea to install nero in windows, its bout the best cdr/dvdr software for windows
[01:21] <Nexinarus> yeah.. but if he dont have it then well :p
[01:22] <apsync> ah Ok, thank you
[01:22] <sorush20> keith
[01:23] <sorush20> keith-: you messed up my pc it will not load now
[01:23] <sorush20> anyone there
[01:23] <Nexinarus> yep
[01:24] <sorush20> keith-: I did as you said now I cant even load the grub
[01:24] <sorush20> anyone there..
[01:25] <Snoblower> Nexinarus, that page isn't displaying properly for some reason
[01:25] <Nexinarus> ok..
[01:25] <Nexinarus> Snoblower: try here: http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd_decrypter.cfm
[01:25] <Snoblower> ok, thanks
[01:26] <llpamies> How can add a subtitle inside an avi file ?
[01:27] <llpamies> for see it with totem ?
[01:27] <sorush20> can someone help I removed the kernel modules restriced 386 and installed the 686 since my kernel was a 686 now I can't even load the grub on the computer.
[01:28] <mjr> avi files can't hold subtitles
[01:28] <llpamies> mjr, wich format can do it ?
[01:28] <sorush20> keith-: are you there..
[01:29] <Toma-> what are the x11/xorg packages called?
[01:30] <sorush20> keith-: are you there..
[01:30] <sorush20> keith-: are you there..
[01:30] <sorush20> keith-:
[01:31] <dsas> Toma: xserver-xorg iirc
[01:31] <Toma-> thanks dsas
[01:31] <] Sephiroth[> sorush dont you think asking for 1 time is enough ;)
[01:31] <volvoguy> does anyone know how easy the Enigmail extention for Thunderbird is to use, and if I install it, if it's required to send/receive all mail?
[01:32] <mjr> llpamies, ogg and ogm at least
[01:32] <sorush20> ] Sephiroth[: he told me to do something and it fuck my pc it woun't even load the grub..
[01:32] <mjr> kozz, and mkv
[01:33] <llpamies> mjr, there is any good editor for extract video and audio from avi and generate an ogm ?
[01:33] <marc`> !tell marc` about ntfs
[01:33] <Hoxzer> somebody know where is mplayer directory as default?
[01:34] <Toma-> If i get this error... "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!" do i need to install the xorg-dev package? i cant find one...
[01:36] <sorush20> Linux uBuntu boot stops at starting enterprise volume management system
[01:36] <BROKEN_LADDER> does it make any sense that my audio system _appears_ to run but makes no sound?
[01:37] <Nexinarus> is volume turned up heh?
[01:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> xmms looks like it's going, but no sound, ever since i changed kernels (changing back doesn't do anything)
[01:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> of course
[01:37] <marc`> how do i stop a script window closing when its dont
[01:37] <marc`> done
[01:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> this just happens every so often, whenever the kernel changes apparently.
[01:37] <marc`> so i can read what it says
[01:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> the bars go up and down in xmms
[01:37] <BROKEN_LADDER> the volume monitor shows it.
[01:38] <sorush20> I keep getting EXt-fs error (device hda1) in start_transaction: Readonly file system
[01:38] <stelki> Hello, cant I make the update program not update my kernel? Im not sure if I like that :S
[01:38] <Alex_BO> Hello!I have a problem with the recording from microphone.The volume is too low, i think because there isn't boost. I tried to connect my radio to the computer and I listen to it well (because it's auto boosted).The mic needs to be boost, but I don't know how to active it.
[01:38] <volvoguy> liable, gpart is still running away on that drive. :)
[01:39] <stelki> Alex_BO, try looking in alsamixer, I have a mic boost option there..
[01:39] <nalioth> volvoguy: yes, the horror of having space
[01:39] <Alex_BO> stelki, i found already that option, but i don't know how to active it
[01:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> funny volvoguy , i used to be vulvaguy
[01:40] <volvoguy> nalioth, luckily i have some of my parents data on the drive. if i can get it back, i'm going to blackmail them for a pair of new drives for a raid array. :-)
[01:40] <ghort> upgraded to breezy, my x keyboard is not working right with the same config, any clue ?
[01:40] <CrTr> how to install .deb by dpkg ?
[01:40] <stelki> Alex_BO, oh, press "m"
[01:41] <echylo> hello, can someone advise me a good irc server?
[01:41] <ghort> CrTr, dpkg -i .deb_file
[01:41] <Alex_BO> stelki, yeah!
[01:41] <Alex_BO> stelki, thank you so much (but why is alsamixer so difficult?)
[01:41] <Alex_BO> stelki, it's not userfriendly
[01:41] <selinium> HI guys, whan i use soundjuicer using hdparm, I have managed to get ripping up to 3.9x but after the first rip it drops to around 1.8x. Any ideas on why/how to stop this?
[01:41] <stelki> Alex_BO, hehe, its not so logical at first :)
[01:42] <stelki> Alex_BO, man pages are nice, though.
[01:42] <nalioth> volvoguy: every little bit helps
[01:42] <Alex_BO> stelki, can i boost more?
[01:43] <stelki> Alex_BO, I dont think so, I've you've already turned your mic fully up
[01:43] <volvoguy> does a plain old PCI slot have enough bandwidth to take advantage of a PCI SATA card (potentially with hardware raid capabilities)?
[01:43] <Nexinarus> wow gDesklets are awesome :D
[01:43] <apsync> hi, what's GNOME and GNOME2
[01:43] <nalioth> volvoguy: yes
[01:43] <stelki> apsync, desktops..
[01:43] <fredric> Hi.. I'm somewhat of a ubuntu beginner.. I was wondering if there is any way to upgrade to breezy without reinstalling the entire system
[01:43] <Hoxzer> "- and sure enough, in debian/patches/03_configure.dpatch, I spot these interesting lines:"
[01:43] <nalioth> fredric: yes, the system is designed for that very thing
[01:44] <mjr> apsync, GNOME 2 is the current major version of GNOME, which is Ubuntu's desktop environment
[01:44] <apsync> ah Ok
[01:44] <[LethAL] > fredric, Yes, but I wouldn't recommend i
[01:44] <Hoxzer> there is no folder like debian in ubuntu system :D
[01:44] <Alex_BO> stelki, what program do you use for recording?
[01:44] <Hoxzer> like wtf I dont unterstand
[01:44] <volvoguy> nalioth, excellent. any preferred brands (or brands to avoid?)
[01:44] <apsync> how can I know which version I have?
[01:44] <stelki> Alex_BO, I dont really record anything :) Only use it for teamspeak.
[01:44] <Hoxzer> where mplayer suorce directory located?
[01:44] <mjr> apsync, which Ubuntu version do you have?
[01:44] <apsync> lol, the latest breezy thingy :$
[01:44] <ofer0> !ubuntuguide
[01:44] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[01:44] <mjr> apsync, then you havve 2.12
[01:44] <disciple_> hi, when I run "sudo echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" I get permission denied, anyone know how to set it?  Running this command is a requirement for running mplayer.
[01:45] <apsync> ah, Ok thank you
[01:45] <mjr> apsync, anyway, there should be the "about gnome" menu entry on the top bar
[01:45] <mjr> which also gives you the version
[01:47] <thoreauputic> echo 1024 |sudo tee -a /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq
[01:47] <thoreauputic> disciple_: ^^^
[01:47] <selinium> disciple_,  not being a linux guru i can't tell you the solution but the sudo is only running on the echo and you dont have the priveledges for writing to /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq
[01:47] <selinium> thoreauputic, I am too slow!
[01:48] <thoreauputic> disciple_: or do sudo -i , then run the command
[01:48] <selinium> thoreauputic, sudo -i?
[01:48] <stelki> Is there a way to easily install java support for mozilla firefox?
[01:48] <Nexinarus> hey is there an open source windows program that burns iso's to cd's? Snoblower needs one.
[01:48] <selinium> thoreauputic, I will have to look that up!
[01:48] <thoreauputic> selinium: gives you a root shell
[01:48] <[LethAL] > Nexinarus, Right-click the ISO in nautilus
[01:48] <Nexinarus> no for windows
[01:49] <nalioth> mornnin thoreauputic
[01:49] <[LethAL] > Nexinarus, What are you doing here?
[01:49] <stelki> Nexinarus, why do you ask inhere?
[01:49] <selinium> hi nalioth
[01:49] <disciple_> excellent cheers, bit new to the sudo lark ;)
[01:49] <selinium> nalioth, me again!
[01:49] <thoreauputic> hi nalioth :)
[01:49] <Nexinarus> Snoblower is trying to burn the ubuntu live iso to a cd
[01:49] <Nexinarus> but he doesnt have nero
[01:49] <nalioth> selinium: good day
[01:49] <stelki> Nexinarus, google it, this is not the place to ask tbh
[01:49] <Nexinarus> its for ubuntu linux..
[01:49] <marc`> there are many programs that can burn ISOs
[01:50] <marc`> and you get get a trial version of nero im sure
[01:50] <[LethAL] > cdimage is free, not sure about OSS though
[01:50] <Nexinarus> thnx [LethAL] 
[01:50] <[LethAL] > Or CDBurnerXP... think that's free
[01:50] <thoreauputic> disciple_: if you use the sudo -i method to get a root shell, don't forget to exit afterwards :)
[01:51] <Hoxzer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46138 can somebody advice me to aply this patch I really dont understand what should I do to get mplayer work
[01:52] <volvoguy> Nexinarus, I do believe the Nero demo will get the job done too.
[01:52] <MrMaDSeN> what can I do when im missing libqt-mt.so.3 ?
[01:52] <Hoxzer> god damnit with you guys ^^
[01:52] <Hoxzer> cant help poor hoxzer :(
[01:53] <volvoguy> watch the language please.
[01:53] <Hoxzer> :)
[01:54] <nalioth> cursing doesnt help fix things
[01:54] <Gundjah> Hoxzer - try locate mplayer | grep src
[01:54] <Hoxzer> nonthing seems to help me atm
[01:54] <volvoguy> Hoxzer, which part are you trying to do? apply a patch or enable dma? (sorry, i'm only half paying attention)
[01:55] <selinium> anyone got an idea why i cant right click/burn to disc anymore?
[01:55] <Hoxzer> vlvoguy: I just want mplayer to able to play movies
[01:55] <Hoxzer> it gives me a error
[01:55] <volvoguy> Hoxzer, dvd's or files? if files, what type?
[01:55] <Hoxzer> in all types
[01:55] <Hoxzer> .avi
[01:55] <selinium> Hoxzer, if you type the first couple of letter of the nick then press tab it will finish typing it for you.
[01:56] <Hoxzer> .wnv
[01:57] <volvoguy> Hoxzer, you specifically need mplayer? I've found totem/gxine/vlc to all work better than mplayer (although I realize that's personal preference).
[01:57] <selinium> !restricted
[01:57] <ubotu> it has been said that restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:58] <Hoxzer> volvo: it really doesn't matter what player I use as far as it can use subtitle files and can play .mp4 files
[01:58] <selinium> Hoxzer, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats  for codecs
[01:58] <nalioth> selinium: hoary or breezy?
[01:58] <Hoxzer> selinium:  I have read that like 100 times
[01:58] <selinium> Hoxzer, sorry!
[01:58] <selinium> nalioth, hoary
[01:59] <nalioth> selinium: that's a good question
[01:59] <Hoxzer> selinium: it seems like it doesn't solve mp4 format problem
[01:59] <selinium> nalioth, i had to install k3b to do it!
[01:59] <volvoguy> Hoxzer, you've enabled multiverse and installed the w32codecs package?
[01:59] <nalioth> Hoxzer: you'll need libfaad and libfaac and other aac/mp4 libs if you want to compile mplayer with mp4/aac support
[02:00] <volvoguy> yeah. what nalioth said. :)
[02:01] <nalioth> Hoxzer: there is also a gstreamer mp4 plugin
[02:01] <volvoguy> i haven't tried playing any mp4 files in linux yet, but the rest were all solved with the info on the restricted formats page on the wiki.
[02:01] <Hoxzer> volvoguy: I downloaded the dll's from wepage and extracted them to usr/lib/win32
[02:01] <nalioth> volvoguy: c'mon man, dont you have mac hardware?
[02:01] <nalioth> volvoguy: i dont think the w32codecs work on aac/mp4
[02:02] <Hoxzer> Volvo: and I cannot enable multiverse for some reason :(
[02:02] <selinium> nalioth, I take it apart from rating my question, you have no idea what the issue is? :)
[02:02] <Hoxzer> It just changes them back
[02:02] <volvoguy> nalioth, yeah but no wifi and i'm too lazy/cheap to make extra long ethernet cables to stretch across the room. :)
[02:03] <selinium> volvoguy, nothing wrong with that! Quicker, more secure!
[02:03] <volvoguy> Hoxzer, how have you tried doing it? just in synaptic, or have you tried editing the sources file by hand?
[02:03] <Hoxzer> volvo: just in synaptic
[02:03] <nalioth> selinium: no, i dont use nautilus, i'm sorry
[02:04] <Toma-> anyone know how to untar all the files in a directory?
[02:04] <nalioth> Hoxzer: you have to edit the sources.list using sudo
[02:04] <selinium> nalioth, What would be the command line for burning an iso then?
[02:04] <selinium> :)
[02:04] <nalioth> selinium: open a terminal (a terminal is nalioths best friend) and type "man cdrecord"
[02:04] <selinium> nalioth, I all for learning the command line stuff!
[02:05] <Hoxzer> nalioth: I have changed like everything in it
[02:05] <reiki> selinium, you could also use    apt-get install gnomebaker on a commend line :)
[02:05] <Hoxzer> I can get like everything now but not win32codecs
[02:06] <nalioth> Hoxzer: i'm not understanding. you can get what (or not)
[02:06] <Frafra> hi all
[02:06] <selinium> nalioth, Damn, I know that, but when was the last time you looked at the manual for cdrecord... There are so many flags.. Not the easiest thing to grasp!
[02:07] <volvoguy> Hoxzer, if you haven't edited the sources.list file by hand, that's probably what you need to do.
[02:07] <Hoxzer> Nalioth: I cannot change to multiverse in synapic and I cannot install win32codecs via synapic cause it cannot find them
[02:07] <Hoxzer> volvo: I guess I have backups
[02:07] <Frafra> I've a lot of file in a directory and i must convert these in jpg. what i must do?
[02:08] <volvoguy> Hoxzer, how comfortable are you with working on the command line?
[02:08] <nalioth> selinium: click this in your browser  file:///usr/share/doc/
[02:08] <Hoxzer> volvo: a litlebit
[02:08] <nalioth> Hoxzer: w32codecs are no longer available in the repos (to my knowledge)
[02:09] <nalioth> Hoxzer: get them at www.mplayerhq.hu on the downloads page
[02:09] <volvoguy> Hoxzer, nalioth just killed my idea then. hehe.
[02:09] <nalioth> volvoguy: i killed something?
[02:09] <selinium> nalioth, OOOooooh! Thanks, i will stick that in my favs!
[02:10] <nalioth> selinium: did you learn something?
[02:10] <volvoguy> nalioth, i was going to help get multiverse enabled, but if they're not in there.......
[02:10] <nalioth> volvoguy: enable multiverse
[02:10] <reiki> Frafra, google for nconvert
[02:10] <volvoguy> nalioth, no... for Hoxzer.
[02:10] <Frafra> reiki: thx
[02:10] <nalioth> volvoguy: stay clear of backports and extras, but enable uni and multi
[02:10] <nalioth> reiki: nconvert?
[02:10] <selinium> nalioth, :) I was going to use dd but I wasn't too sure about it!
[02:11] <volvoguy> nalioth, right. i know all that. i was helping Hoxzer. :)
[02:11] <nalioth> selinium: try this file:///home/<yourusernamegoeshere>/
[02:11] <reiki> nalioth: he's looking to batch convert image formats... I've seen nconvert or... not sure if using mogrify from ImageMagick would do it
[02:11] <nalioth> imagemagick could handle it
[02:12] <reiki> all commamd line?
[02:12] <Gundjah> Someone dropped me earlier link how to get Ubuntu give me >1024*768, but I lost it... could you please?
[02:12] <nalioth> Hoxzer: enable uni and multi. be wary of backports and extras
[02:12] <nalioth> !tell Gundjah about resolution
[02:13] <Gundjah> nalioth - Tnx :-)
[02:13] <selinium> nalioth: cool, like using the old C:   :D
[02:13] <nalioth> selinium: ;)
[02:14] <sorush20> how do I restart the hotplug system.
[02:15] <reiki> nalioth: wow... I just now found all the command line things that imagemagick can do. I had no idea it did all this
[02:15] <nalioth> reiki: imagemagick is an old warhorse for images
[02:15] <florg> hi, i have a problem: can't ping my gateway when running linux. "ping <gateway>" results in "ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted". What does it mean?
[02:15] <nalioth> reiki: lots of gui image programs call upon imagemagick to do their heavy lifting
[02:16] <reiki> nalioth: yes my web sites all use it for all kinds of image manipulation. I just never knew HOW :)
[02:16] <Cicakman> hello.. after i installed beagle, i get the error message about extended attributes.. would it solve if  i change my /etc/fstab line to this: /dev/sda6       /               ext3    defaults,user_xattr,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[02:17] <volvoguy> reiki, if you work with png images, i've been really impressed with "pngcrush" lately. kinda single purpose, but it does it's job well.
[02:17] <x[BrB] x> hi nalioth
[02:17] <nalioth> x[BrB] x: welcome
[02:17] <x[BrB] x> thanks
[02:17] <x[BrB] x> wrhe you from sir?/
[02:18] <worthawholebean> Hi! I'm having problems with serious slowdowns that happen occasionally on my computer. Some people told me to use ctrl, alt and backspace, f1 or f2, but but those drop me into a red screen of death.
[02:18] <Hoxzer> nalioth?
[02:18] <NiLz> any1 using dcgui?
[02:18] <nalioth> Hoxzer: yes?
[02:18] <x[BrB] x> brb nalioth i still have to drive
[02:19] <x[BrB] x> hope i can catch you when i get back... i'll stay online
[02:19] <worthawholebean> Can someone help me?
[02:19] <Hoxzer> Nalioth: where should I extrac those dll's files?
[02:19] <reiki> wow... driving and on the internet at the same time.. that's way too connected for me. I always wait till my horse is hungry and we've stopped for a while. :)
[02:20] <volvoguy> worthawholebean, what kind of slowdowns are you experiencing?
[02:20] <nalioth> Hoxzer: into your /usr/local/lib/codecs (it the codecs directory isnt there, make it so)
[02:20] <worthawholebean> The screen only changes every 3 seconds or so.
[02:20] <volvoguy> worthawholebean, what kind of video card do you have?
[02:21] <Hoxzer> nalioth: I extracted them there but I still have same problem
[02:21] <worthawholebean> I'm on ppc by the way
[02:21] <askMEforUBIFONE> reiki: GPS navigation from a Treo / car cradle is awesome, let me tell you!
[02:21] <Cicakman> has anyone ever installed beagle on their system?
[02:21] <volvoguy> worthawholebean, excellent. nalioth will be sure to have some answers for you too. :)
[02:21] <nalioth> Hoxzer: did they install into the directory or into a folder in the directory?
[02:22] <worthawholebean> GeForce MX 400
[02:22] <worthawholebean> apparently
[02:22] <reiki> askMEforUBIFONE, I'm 53!  I use maps!  hehehehe...seriously though... it does sound awesome
[02:22] <nalioth> worthawholebean: what mac and hoary or breezy?
[02:22] <askMEforUBIFONE> reiki: =
[02:22] <askMEforUBIFONE> =)
[02:22] <Hoxzer> nalioth: I just extracked dll files into directory with sudo
[02:22] <worthawholebean> hoary, iMac FP 800
[02:22] <volvoguy> askMEforUBIFONE, give me ubifone.
[02:23] <volvoguy> :)
[02:23] <nalioth> imac FP?
[02:23] <Da_SWAT> Since my last upgrade my system (ATI dual-head setup) is pretty screwed up. First I had trouble with xlibmesa-gl (returned an error code). Now somehow it installed, but I can't get my dual-head setup working correctly. And if I start gnome/emelfm2, my system hangs (need to do a hardware reboot).
[02:23] <worthawholebean> flat panel
[02:24] <inthenow> hi
[02:24] <inthenow> breezy is good
[02:24] <inthenow> how do we expand breezy so our stock rise!
[02:25] <worthawholebean> ???
[02:25] <Krneki> hay anyone here know how could i set right unicode for slovenian chrachters - i have problem with froum because doesn't change some into 
[02:25] <nalioth> worthawholebean: what video drive you using?
[02:25] <worthawholebean> I honestly don't know.
[02:25] <worthawholebean> Where can I find out?
[02:25] <nalioth> worthawholebean: know how to use a pastebin?
[02:26] <worthawholebean> nope, sorry
[02:26] <kuru> so I've upgraded to breezy with dist-upgrade
[02:26] <kuru> what a beautiful day
[02:26] <kuru> now it won't load the network drivers properly so I can't ssh to it
[02:26] <kuru> it locks up my keyboard
[02:26] <reiki> nalioth: can he cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "Driver" ?
[02:26] <kuru> and X owon't start
[02:26] <reiki> if I got that right
[02:27] <kuru> now burning a knoppix cd to disable gdm
[02:27] <Nexinarus> when i install certain icon themes, they change all of the icons to a grey paper icon. why is this?
[02:27] <kuru> is this a known problem?
[02:27] <MrMaDSeN> any stats about how many downloads ubuntu has ?
[02:27] <kuru> breezy just breaks X completely?
[02:27] <Nexinarus> they usually have SVG in the name
[02:27] <nalioth> !tell worthawholebean about paste
[02:27] <gerarcone> hello, it's difficult to install KDE on breezy distribution? what packages should i download by synaptic?
[02:27] <inthenow> maybe its not so god to have a spambot gate...too hard for people to get in here
[02:27] <nalioth> reiki: he could, but i'd rather he pasted it
[02:28] <inthenow> we need the people in here
[02:28] <deFrysk> gerarcone, sudo apt-get instal kubuntu-desktop
[02:28] <nalioth> gerarcone: just install "kubuntu-desktop"
[02:28] <deFrysk> install*
[02:29] <inthenow> cant freenode doing something about spambots?
[02:29] <kuru> any ideas?
[02:29] <Toma-> h
[02:29] <fek> inthenow: they are on their wy
[02:29] <Krneki> anyone here know bots psotnic
[02:29] <inthenow> a spambot "mote" isnt helpful
[02:29] <deFrysk> kuru, not on my box
[02:29] <fek> inthenow: you could prefent against it by using nickserv
[02:29] <kuru> lsuactiafner, so i've done the dist-upgrade, but no dice
[02:29] <kuru> deFrysk, odd.
[02:30] <Hoxzer> Nalioth: dll files are in the codecs directory without the folder in the archiver
[02:30] <worthawholebean> OK. I got the pastebot open
[02:30] <gerarcone> nalioth & deFrysk: thank you! after the installation, can i choose wich interface to use?
[02:30] <nalioth> inthenow: they are
[02:30] <worthawholebean> Where can I find the driver information?
[02:30] <deFrysk> gerarcone, yes
[02:30] <inthenow> fek: no everyone uses nickserv or likes it or understands it right away
[02:30] <nalioth> worthawholebean: open your xorg.conf in a text editor, copy an paste it into a pastebin
[02:31] <nalioth> worthawholebean: come back and show us the URL of the pastebin
[02:31] <fek> inthenow: then tell me how you would fix the problem!
[02:31] <Da_SWAT> if I do a 'dist-upgrade' would this mean that I install breezy?
[02:31] <Nexinarus> is 424 people not enough :p ?
[02:31] <fek> inthenow: i have no problem anymore until i am using nickserv like the opers configured it
[02:31] <satafterh> hello
[02:31] <nalioth> Da_SWAT: if you've switched your sources.list to breezy repos
[02:32] <inthenow> no idea how to kill spambot threats
[02:32] <fek> inthenow: and i think they do their job really god
[02:32] <deFrysk> Da_SWAT, read the upgradenotes , see /topic
[02:32] <fek> inthenow: using nickserv is the only way
[02:32] <satafterh> can someone tell me repository to get w32codecs?// thanks
[02:32] <inthenow> arent msgs repeated?
[02:32] <fek> of course
[02:32] <fek> but when you want to filter thinks like that, you have to filter content
[02:33] <worthawholebean> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2294
[02:33] <fek> and that's not a thing that an oper should do!
[02:33] <deFrysk> !tell satafterh about w32codecs
[02:33] <nalioth> satafterh: go to www.mplayerhq.hu and look on the download page
[02:33] <worthawholebean> there it is
[02:33] <gerarcone> deFrysk: how can i do?
[02:33] <satafterh> ok will try
[02:33] <fek> inthenow: an correct oper will never touch the content of the users
[02:33] <inthenow> dont spambots repeat the same thing? maybe the server or multiple bots can detect repeats and notify the freenode
[02:34] <fek> inthenow: you have to scan the content wich users will tell over the ircnet and that is not a nice way
[02:34] <nalioth> reiki: you look at that pastebin?
[02:34] <worthawholebean> They'll be changed instantly to fix the issue. The spambots, I mean.
[02:34] <deFrysk> gerarcone, you could istall kdm if you prefer kde , during install it wil as you if you wish to use kdm or gdm
[02:35] <Nexinarus> ok now im pissed off.. gDesklets worked for a bit until i installed a few items, now it hangs on 100% cpu usage and does nothing, even after I "completely remove" the package
[02:35] <satafterh> do not see w32codecs there
[02:35] <fek> bye
[02:35] <deFrysk> satafterh, read what uboti send you
[02:35] <deFrysk> ubotu*
[02:36] <test34> satafterh, add the hoary-extras repository
[02:36] <gerarcone> deFrysk: after installing it and choosing kde as default, can i change my mind?
[02:37] <satafterh> ok what is the full path or where can i get it
[02:37] <worthawholebean> ok, i g2g
[02:37] <deFrysk> gerarcone, yes you can (should imho ;p)
[02:37] <test34> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe
[02:37] <nalioth> satafterh: you're looking for "the essential pack" of codecs
[02:37] <test34> multiverse restricted
[02:37] <test34> then w32codecs will be available through synaptic
[02:37] <gerarcone> deFrysk: ok, so i'm going to install kubuntu-desktop from synaptic, yes?
[02:38] <deFrysk> gerarcone, yup ;)
[02:38] <gerarcone> deFrysk: :p
[02:38] <gerarcone> deFrysk: what's kdm?
[02:38] <deFrysk> gerarcone, also gdm does kde btw so installing kdm is optional
[02:38] <worthawholebean> How do I get ctrl-click, for example tto be maped to right-click with a one-button mouse?
[02:39] <deFrysk> kdm is kde login manager gdm is gnome loginmanager
[02:39] <satafterh> thanks, can you past the path i need to put in the source list to get w32codec
[02:40] <gerarcone> deFrysk: uhm... i don't have the package kubuntu-desktop
[02:40] <Nexinarus> get it then?
[02:40] <Belutz> in aptitude, how do i search package that has 'c' mark?
[02:40] <gerarcone> deFrysk: maybe it's because i'm running breezy
[02:40] <volvoguy> worthawholebean, that's a good question. i had to finally plug in a mouse.
[02:40] <deFrysk> gerarcone, how is that possible ?
[02:41] <Nexinarus> arr Synaptic is such a lier.. it never "completely removes" a package
[02:41] <Nexinarus> i still see many config files
[02:41] <Belutz> Nexinarus: that's why i'm using aptitude now
[02:41] <worthawholebean> I was just going through xorg.conf and found an option, ""Emulate3Buttons" that was set to true
[02:41] <gerarcone> deFrysk: i don't know, what i know is that i can't find kubuntu-desktop in synaptic
[02:42] <deFrysk> gerarcone, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:42] <elvirolo> does anyone know when/if the dri problem will be fixed ?
[02:42] <deFrysk> gerarcone, do that in your console and turn off synaptic
[02:42] <Snoblower> how do i get back to windows? :(
[02:43] <kurumin> hi all
[02:43] <Supercowz> hi all
[02:43] <Supercowz> :p
[02:43] <inthenow> if your stealing windows your supporting it also
[02:43] <gerarcone> deFrysk: ok, it seems running
[02:43] <deFrysk> afk
[02:43] <Supercowz> finally i got my ubuntu run on my adm64 !!! coool at end !! :)
[02:43] <inthenow> how big is the ubuntu distro a hard drive?
[02:43] <inthenow> breezy
[02:43] <kurumin> is it possible to use chroot to access a ubuntu 64 partition?
[02:43] <Nexinarus> Snoblower: system -> log out -> restart. make sure you take the CD also
[02:44] <inthenow> fresh off the cd
[02:44] <gerarcone> deFrysk: when i'm using kde, how can i switch to gnome?
[02:44] <stelki> incubii, im using around 2.5gb, alot installed
[02:44] <Snoblower> oh ok, thanks
[02:44] <stelki> incubii, sorry, wrong nick
[02:44] <volvoguy> Snoblower, did Ubuntu not set up grub properly? you should have an option for windows when you reboot.
[02:44] <stelki> inthenow, using about 2.5gb
[02:44] <stelki> inthenow, and I've installed alot of stuff
[02:44] <Snoblower> volvoguy, i just don't know wtf i'm doing
[02:44] <volvoguy> Snoblower, that's ok. that's what we're here for. :)
[02:45] <Snoblower> lol
[02:45] <Nexinarus> volvoguy: he's running the ubuntu live disc
[02:45] <kurumin> I get this error: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error] 
[02:45] <deFrysk> gerarcone, you can choose session with loginmanager
[02:45] <volvoguy> Nexinarus, oh. even easier. :)
[02:45] <Snoblower> so i'm not actually running ubuntu, right? this is just the live CD?
[02:45] <volvoguy> Snoblower, correct.
[02:46] <gerarcone> deFrysk: can you give me an example?
[02:46] <Snoblower> sweet, finally figured something out on my own =D
[02:46] <volvoguy> Snoblower, when you reboot and remove the cd, your computer will not have been touched.
[02:46] <Snoblower> alright
[02:46] <deFrysk> gerarcone, when u log in with passwd u can also choose session
[02:46] <Snoblower> volvoguy, how do i install ubuntu onto my computer?
[02:47] <gerarcone> deFrysk: also using gdm?
[02:47] <gerarcone> deFrysk: sorry to make a lot of questions but i'm new to linux
[02:47] <volvoguy> Snoblower, you need the install disk. it's pretty simple to walk through the steps, especially if you have some free space set aside.
[02:47] <Krneki> am is there possible to input windows-1250 coding on ubuntu
[02:47] <deFrysk> gerarcone, better stick to gnome first and get used to linux
[02:48] <stelki> gerarcone, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[02:48] <Ankka> why gnome?
[02:48] <volvoguy> Snoblower, if you DON'T have free space, you might want to tell us how you're set up so we can suggest the best way to set up your hard drive(s).
[02:48] <stelki> 'cause gnome is coool
[02:48] <kuru> guys.. someone please help me with this X window system problem..
[02:48] <Ankka> I mean, what makes gnome better than KDE?
[02:48] <kuru> I'm completely stuck here
[02:48] <stelki> Ankka, nothing, its a matter of taste
[02:48] <kuru> I've just upgraded to breezy and i still can't get X to run
[02:48] <cef> so, why can't I lock my screen anymore?
[02:48] <kuru> and I get the same error
[02:48] <Ankka> oh, ok
[02:49] <Grant_> I have a problem with google on ubuntu, everytime i go to http://www.google.co.uk or .com i get this message "We're Sorry... but we can't process your request right now. A computer virus or spyware application is sending us automated requests, and it appears that your computer or network has been infected." i have allways thought that linux does not have spyware or virus's so why am i getting this ? do i have a virus :|
[02:49] <kuru> error:  could not open default font 'fixed';
[02:49] <carbo> err, hello there. is there any chance i can get my laptop's widescreen working?
[02:49] <deFrysk> Ankka, he is running gnome now so better not to start to try alkindsa confusing stuff for now
[02:49] <gerarcone> deFrysk: if a choose gdm as default display manager, then i can start x with kde on login screen?
[02:49] <deFrysk> gerarcone, yes
[02:50] <Snoblower> volvoguy, i THINK i have free space, how much space do i need?
[02:50] <stelki> Grant_, they probably banned your ISP, try and contact them
[02:50] <Ankka> well, I did have a question I came here to ask: does anyone know how well Mac OS X burns those installation CD's?
[02:50] <gerarcone> deFrysk: ok, let's see how it works
[02:50] <Grant_> stelki: so its not ubuntu related ? and i dont have a virus  ?
[02:50] <Ankka> since I wouldn't want to download that amount of stuff and then find out it doesn't work somehow
[02:50] <lonewolff> Ankka: it will work fine
[02:51] <volvoguy> Snoblower, i would suggest about 3Gb minimum for ubuntu and swap space (which is kinda like virtual memory).
[02:51] <Ankka> lonewolff: thanks
[02:51] <Snoblower> alright, thanks
[02:51] <cef> can someone explain why Breezy doesn't allow me to lock the screen anymore?
[02:51] <stelki> Grant_, Nope probably not
[02:51] <volvoguy> Snoblower, np.
[02:51] <Grant_> stelki: ok thanks for that :)
[02:51] <kuru> breezy is badly broken
[02:51] <stelki> Grant_, :)
[02:51] <markuman> how to creat own ubuntu install cd?
[02:52] <cef> kuru: I'm having no problems apart from this
[02:52] <kuru> then again, it's a development release.. oh well
[02:52] <stelki> markuman, download the install iso file, and burn it down
[02:52] <carbo> hey, are there any drivers or what for my laptop display? i'm currently using an external monitor
[02:52] <cef> and if it gets no testing, then it'll stay this way
[02:52] <kuru> cef, I've got problems from hell :(
[02:52] <WildZeck> hi all
[02:52] <kuru> cef, well, I think I've got a problem that no one seems to have :(
[02:52] <stelki> I've got no probs with the dev version
[02:52] <markuman> stelki, no.... i know that. but when i will build my own ubuntu live cd!
[02:53] <WildZeck> is there any faq about the "modprobe : operation not permited" problem ?
[02:53] <stelki> markuman, Im not sure I get ya, what exactly are you trying to do?
[02:53] <stelki> WildZeck, are you root? (or sudo'ing)
[02:53] <cef> kuru: what card?
[02:53] <kuru> cef, not a card issue.. a font issue
[02:53] <markuman> stelki, i dont know! my own live cd with only that apps i realy need. i found "linux-live.org"
[02:53] <kuru> cef, worked fine with hoary
[02:54] <kuru> cef, upgraded to breezy and all hell broke lose
[02:54] <carbo> sorry, can anyone help me here? my laptop's display doesn't work
[02:54] <cef> kuru: have you installed ubuntu-base and ubuntu-desktop ??
[02:54] <stelki> markuman, I'm not sure thats really ubuntu related, try reading the docs of "linux-live.org"
[02:54] <kuru> hrmm
[02:54] <kuru> cef, no..
[02:55] <volvoguy> kuru, i'd suggest checking that as well, if you can at least get to a command prompt.
[02:55] <kuru> volvoguy, yeah, I slapped knoppix on there, disabled gdm and rebooted
[02:55] <cef> kuru: try that.. they depend on all the packages that are necessary.. people have commented that during upgrades you need to install them.. I didn't, and had issues.. but managed to get around it by installing those
[02:55] <kuru> volvoguy, so I can get that much now
[02:56] <kuru> volvoguy, grabbing ubuntu-base now
[02:56] <markuman> stelki, perhaps you know how to do it?
[02:56] <volvoguy> kuru, just running knoppix live, or you installed it?
[02:56] <stelki> markuman, I'm afraid not.
[02:56] <Alex_BO> HELLO! I have a linmodem that i would like to make works.this is AgereSystem AC97, but the driver (sl-modem) is only for i386 and i have AMD64.how can i do?
[02:56] <markuman> stelki, in the faq stand, you can use it with every distro
[02:56] <WildZeck> stelki, yes
[02:57] <kuru> volvoguy, nono.. I just used knoppix to mount the hda1 to remove +x bit off of the gdm script
[02:57] <Snoblower> can i change my screen resolution while i'm using the live CD?
[02:57] <WildZeck> at least i'm doing sudo being root ;p
[02:57] <volvoguy> kuru, gotcha.
[02:57] <kuru> volvoguy, otherwise X kept crashing and locking the keyboard
[02:57] <kuru> volvoguy, which is pretty nasty i would say
[02:57] <volvoguy> kuru, i agree.
[02:57] <stelki> markuman, I suggest you read the docs, I'm afraid I cant help ya
[02:58] <Ankka> err... would 5.10 preview or 5.04 be better?
[02:58] <Ankka> I mean, it's a preview so is it stable?
[02:58] <lsuactiafner> Ankka : 5.04 is more stable
[02:58] <lsuactiafner> Ankka : 5.10 is still in development
[02:58] <kuru> cef, i doubt ubuntu-desktop would do anything for my problem
[02:58] <volvoguy> Snoblower, you can try the screen resolution option in the preferences menu up in the top panel, but there probably won't be many options running from the live cd.
[02:58] <kuru> don't see how install openoffice would do anything
[02:58] <inthenow> hey lets all delete our stolen windows. well i already did. but if we have it we're supporting it. so lets be good lads and stop stealing corporate software =] 
[02:58] <Ankka> lsuactiafner: thanks for the info
[02:59] <cef> kuru: sure? may depend on all the necessary fonts
[02:59] <gerarcone> deFrysk: KDE is working very well! just to try it, now how can i switch to kdm for the next session?
[02:59] <kuru> no.. I see what's there to do..
[02:59] <kuru> nothing font related
[02:59] <apokryphos> gerarcone: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[02:59] <kuru> any other ideas?
[02:59] <apokryphos> gerarcone: you will have to restart X, though.
[02:59] <inthenow> Oh ya and people of the channel, give a copy to grandma ok? she just doesnt understand windows
[02:59] <kuru> I'm afraid the best recourse right now would probably be going back to hoary
[03:00] <Alex_BO> HELLO! I have a linmodem that i would like to make works.this is AgereSystem AC97, but the driver (sl-modem) is only for i386 and i have AMD64.how can i do?
[03:00] <gerarcone> apokryphos: and to return to gdm i should use the same command?
[03:00] <volvoguy> inthenow, you're preaching to the choir here ya know?
[03:00] <kuru> but i hope someone can help here
[03:00] <deFrysk> gerarcone, sudo apt-get install kdm
[03:00] <apokryphos> gerarcone: the same command would work, yes (unless you removed kdm, in which case dpkg-reconfigure gdm).
[03:00] <inthenow> ya...just a little crowd boost!
[03:00] <deFrysk> gerarcone, during install it will ask you witch u wish to use
[03:01] <stelki> inthenow, kthxbye
[03:01] <gerarcone> deFrysk: yes, and i have choosen gdm
[03:01] <gerarcone> deFrysk: now i want to try kdm :p
[03:01] <apokryphos> gerarcone: like I said, you can easily switch again.
[03:02] <inthenow> ok im going to grandmas house to give her a copy, then im gonna stop off and moms and give a copy as well...ok ttyl =] 
[03:02] <gerarcone> apokryphos & deFrysk: thank you very much for the patience
[03:02] <apokryphos> gerarcone: none really required, but sure. 8)
[03:03] <Micksa> anyone here using breezy?
[03:03] <[LethAL] > Me
[03:03] <markuman> yes
[03:03] <inthenow> YES
[03:03] <volvoguy> yep
[03:03] <inthenow> its the best
[03:03] <deFrysk> me
[03:03] <Micksa> have you updated recently?
[03:03] <deFrysk> him her
[03:03] <volvoguy> yup
[03:03] <deFrysk> she
[03:03] <Micksa> I updated last night and now scrolling in X is arse slow
[03:03] <Micksa> as is moving windows
[03:03] <Micksa> any kind of "copy this region" operation
[03:04] <Micksa> is anyone else experiencing this?
[03:04] <[LethAL] > Micksa, I'm not :)
[03:04] <Micksa> GOOD FOR YOU
[03:04] <volvoguy> Micksa, mine seems to be fine.
[03:04] <[LethAL] > LO
[03:04] <Micksa> did you update in the past 24 hours or so?
[03:04] <[LethAL] > :P*
[03:04] <markuman> yes no problems
[03:04] <volvoguy> within the last 2 hours.
[03:05] <kuru> ok, not much here
[03:05] <flugh> has the msttcorefonts package been removed?
[03:05] <kuru> back to hoary i go
[03:05] <todd_> im confused, i see xmms playing music but i cant hear anything
[03:05] <carbo> how do i get my laptop display to work? external monitor works, i'm using a mobility radeon x700 and my widescreen resolution (1680x1050) works, its just that the screen goes blank on my laptop
[03:05] <lsuactiafner> todd_ : alsamixer
[03:05] <slept> todd_, killall esd
[03:05] <lsuactiafner> up the volumes
[03:05] <todd_> everything is turned up in alsa
[03:05] <todd_> and unmuted
[03:06] <lsuactiafner> todd_ : change the audio out in xmms preferences
[03:06] <butcherbird> todd_, under preferences in xmms what is selected? esd?
[03:06] <volvoguy> carbo, is that AGP or one of the mini PCI-E things?
[03:06] <lsuactiafner> alsa or esd or something
[03:06] <Snoblower> could i put ubuntu on a computer that's running windows 3.1?
[03:07] <butcherbird> Snoblower, what cpu? ram?
[03:07] <todd_> output plugin??
[03:07] <Snoblower> i dunno, i've never even used the computer
[03:07] <carbo> volvoguy, sorry, are you referring to the videocard? i'm not sure, its pretty new so it might be pci-e, but the thing is that an external monitor works so it isn't my videocard problem right?
[03:07] <volvoguy> carbo, i'm still having problems with the SATA stuff on my laptop, but the live cd has problems with the video card's PCI-E connector.
[03:07] <Doktoreas> hi gus
[03:07] <Doktoreas> hi guys
[03:08] <Doktoreas> i found an old amd k6 with 64 mb of ram
[03:08] <todd_> what should everything be set at in "output plugin"?
[03:08] <butcherbird> Snoblower, if it does not have a cdrom drive you might be just as well off to do a debian floppy install.
[03:08] <Doktoreas> full working, what about runnning ubuntu on it?
[03:08] <LasseL> Doktoreas, damnsmalllinux
[03:08] <Flying_Eagle> Snoblower, not in default config, but with a slim WM and stuff, it should work
[03:08] <Doktoreas> it's for the son of a friend of mine
[03:08] <volvoguy> carbo, you might want to check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam and see if someone else has reported using your laptop.
[03:08] <Flying_Eagle> Doktoreas,  not in default config, but with a slim WM and stuff, it should work
[03:08] <Snoblower> alright
[03:08] <Flying_Eagle> ;)
[03:09] <LasseL> Snoblower, we had someone bitching how slow everything was last night and he had 256mb
[03:09] <stelki> inthenow, why would you even bother stealing windows? :|
[03:09] <Doktoreas> Flying_Eagle: can i donload the normal cd?
[03:09] <Flying_Eagle> sure
[03:09] <carbo> volvoguy, okay thanks. i was hoping there was an easy fix for laptop displays. i'll go check
[03:09] <Snoblower> LasseL, lol, ok
[03:09] <volvoguy> carbo, i don't know of an easy fix, but that's the place to start looking. :)
[03:09] <slept> inthenow, free has nothing to do with money :)
[03:10] <todd_> lsuactiafner, what should my configure options look like in output plugin?
[03:10] <Flying_Eagle> Doktoreas, you can try to boot gnome, if this doesnt work right, go into a TTY and install sth like blackbox
[03:10] <LasseL> linux is only free if your time is :p
[03:10] <stelki> Hows swap size compaired to ram amount? 1:1?
[03:10] <volvoguy> Snoblower, with really old hardware, it's worth doing a server install and then installing a lighter window manager like xfce4 or fluxbox.
[03:10] <stelki> (at best)
[03:11] <carbo> volvoguy, ah, i got lucky, i think there's a similar model here... thanks!
[03:11] <Doktoreas> Flying_Eagle: so i can use the normal install cd?
[03:11] <volvoguy> stelki, the general rule of thumb is 1.5-2x the swap space for the amount of ram you have.
[03:11] <inthenow> slept: i dont know what you mean i was just saying that stealing windows is time in windows. and if time is money your putting it into windows. bad idea
[03:11] <volvoguy> carbo, cool!
[03:11] <Flying_Eagle> Doktoreas, sure
[03:12] <volvoguy> slept, that's what i forgot to do last night. sleep! :)
[03:12] <stelki> volvoguy, okis,
[03:12] <butcherbird> stelki, they say 2:1 but you wont be touching swap so much that it matters al that much on a modern system
[03:12] <stelki> butcherbird, yea well, I dont think it matters that much with 1024mb ram, its not like im going to do major operations on this machine
[03:13] <volvoguy> stelki, yeah. butcherbird beat me to my conclusion. on mondern systems with 1Gb+ of RAM, a gig of swap is probably fine.
[03:13] <stelki> volvoguy, hehe ok, that was really my concern, thansk
[03:13] <cef> kuru: interesting that I can see a lot of true type fonts that ubuntu-base depends on
[03:14] <volvoguy> stelki, np. with 1Gb of RAM in my system, i rarely touch over 128Mb of swap.
[03:14] <LasseL> volvoguy, how do you see how much swap is in use?
[03:14] <id_sonic> not a good idea~
[03:15] <stelki> LasseL, free, no?
[03:15] <volvoguy> LasseL, you can just run "top" on the command line.
[03:15] <volvoguy> LasseL, it's listed up at the top left.
[03:15] <volvoguy> LasseL, the "free" command will do it too.
[03:16] <gerarcone> sorry to boring you, but someone knows how to add trasparencies to windows in KDE?
[03:16] <selinium> anybody here install acroread on hoary? Do you have /usr/lib/Acrobat5/bin/acroread ?
[03:16] <stelki> Is there something for (gnome?) like the win32 samurize?
[03:16] <charolastra> stelki: it's called "themes" ... but if you want eyecandy i suggest KDE
[03:16] <ompaul> gerarcone, maybe the peeps in #kubuntu would be better to ask :) as a gnome user I have no clue in that dept
[03:17] <id_sonic> samurize?
[03:17] <ompaul> stelki, what does that program do, I have no clue about windows
[03:17] <volvoguy> stelki, are those like desktop widget things?
[03:17] <charolastra> gerarcone: with using the right X and using it's program to set transperency
[03:17] <stelki> charolastra, I'm not sure you understood my question. :) Its basically for "putting" stuff on your desktop, like lmsensors output, etc
[03:18] <Doktoreas> Flying_Eagle: 5.21 can be ok?
[03:18] <gerarcone> charolastra: sorry, can you tell me more?
[03:18] <bloodnik> Hlo
[03:18] <Doktoreas> 5.10 i mean
[03:18] <Zaacc> hey I'm wondering is it possible to get Ubuntu to work on 32megs of ram and how? thnx :)
[03:18] <stelki> ompaul, hehe, I'm not explaining it too good
[03:18] <bloodnik> can anyone show me a howto on turning an ubuntu box into a residential gateway?
[03:18] <volvoguy> stelki, gdesklets perhaps?
[03:18] <Flying_Eagle> Doktoreas, 5.21???
[03:18] <gerarcone> ompaul: sorry, i'll ask to #kubuntu my questions about kde
[03:18] <stelki> volvoguy, maybe, I'll try it
[03:18] <Doktoreas> 5.10 :;
[03:19] <gerarcone> charolastra: what do you mean with "using the right x"
[03:19] <carbo> i'm new to this.. how do i edit a text file that i don't have permissions to? i tried but i'm not sure how.. sudo something
[03:19] <todd_> what options should be selected in "multimedia systems selector"?
[03:19] <stelki> volvoguy, according to the description, that should be it. thanks a bunch
[03:19] <volvoguy> stelki, no prob.
[03:19] <Clujo> sudo gedit file
[03:19] <ompaul> gerarcone, not an issue, but it seems to me that it would be more useful for you :)
[03:19] <Flying_Eagle> Doktoreas, yeah. i mean, whats the point. gnome or kde might need too much performance... so you install your ubuntu and then a slim WM
[03:19] <Nexinarus> any idea why some gnome icon themes dont work?
[03:19] <volvoguy> stelki, there's tons of widgets on their website.
[03:20] <lars> hello all
[03:20] <k31th> is there any easy way to install kde on ubuntu ?
[03:20] <gerarcone> ompaul: thanks, i've understood that
[03:20] <ompaul> k31th, sudoi apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:20] <charolastra> gerarcone: there is the old X and the new X.org (which supports transp.)
[03:20] <stelki> volvoguy, ok, will look it up :D
[03:20] <Hoxzer> can I some how define proxy for one connection only?
[03:20] <ompaul> k31th, sorry sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop        << no i after sudo :-/
[03:21] <volvoguy> does anyone know if they recently changed the functionality of universe to warn  you that those packages are "unauthenticated"? i only have ubuntu repositories and i keep getting that warning today.
[03:21] <gerarcone> charolastra: ok, but how can i know wich x i'm running and how can i set trasparency?
[03:21] <k31th> yeah
[03:21] <k31th> ompaul: or i could just download the kubuntu iso right ?
[03:21] <ompaul> k13th have you ubuntu installed?
[03:21] <k31th> yup
[03:22] <Gundjah> What was the place to upload images or strings > 3 lines for viewing?
[03:22] <k31th> but i think i just fucked it by doing apt-get install kde :S
[03:22] <k31th> excuse my lang forgot this was a family chan
[03:22] <k31th> :(
[03:22] <marcin_ant> hi all I got breezy and installed beagle from universe
[03:22] <ompaul> k31th, you can, but for the amount of stuff that you want I would make the savings and use kubuntu
[03:22] <carbo> Clujo, i get a "Gdk-warning **: locale not supported by xlib" in the ternminal when i "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf", am i doing anything wrong
[03:22] <nalioth_zZz> k31th: language please
[03:22] <k31th> nalioth_zZz: soz
[03:23] <k31th> ompaul: yeah ill dl it
[03:23] <stelki> volvoguy, hah, thats great stuff :p
[03:23] <volvoguy> stelki, :-)
[03:23] <marcin_ant> and I got a question - I know that this software is in beta version - but it really is hard to use because it takes 100% cpu and 100% memory
[03:23] <Da_SWAT> I need some serious help with my broken Ubuntu. (really broken)  More info can be found at the Ubuntuforums |--->  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66749
[03:23] <lars> how can i search on apt-get ?
[03:23] <ompaul> !conduct
[03:23] <ubotu> I guess conduct is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct/document_view
[03:23] <Clujo> carbo, isnt gnome running?  else try sudo vim file.  other than that, no clue.
[03:23] <lars> there is a command for
[03:23] <char1iecha1k> hello i am trying to run "make" for some drivers yet it saying there is no rule for make target.... can someone point me in the right direction
[03:23] <red_cactus> what's the difference between an Ubuntu preview release and final release?  i.e. is it worth it to me, one who's never used ubuntu before, to download the preview release?
[03:23] <emile> !freenx
[03:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, freenx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[03:23] <ompaul> its more than a family channel :)
[03:24] <marcin_ant> and I would like to know if it's only my problem or maybe it's known issue?
[03:24] <volvoguy> marcin_ant, can you run top or something and see what's using up all the resources?
[03:24] <carbo> Clujo, yeah gnome is definitely running... i'll try another text editor
[03:24] <k31th> lars: apt-cache search "package"
[03:24] <charolastra> gerarcone: try executing this "xcompmgr -c"
[03:24] <volvoguy> marcin_ant, i don't have that problem.
[03:24] <Gundjah> What was the place to upload images or strings > 3 lines for viewing?
[03:24] <marcin_ant> volvoguy, sure and I know that it is beagled
[03:24] <lars> okay ;) thanks
[03:24] <volvoguy> marcin_ant, how long has it been running? it might take a while to index things.
[03:25] <char1iecha1k> what does This mean " no rule to make target /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/build/.config"
[03:25] <volvoguy> marcin_ant, personally i'm not using it yet for that very reason. it just doesn't seem ready for prime time.
[03:25] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - im guessing you missed a step
[03:25] <marcin_ant> volvoguy, hmm now it is 15:30 here and it was running with 100% cpu and 100% mem since about 2 am
[03:26] <emile> is the freenx wiki for breezy broken?
[03:26] <Da_SWAT> if I launch a program like emelfm2 or something else. My system freezes, how can I get some more info WHY it freezes?
[03:26] <volvoguy> marcin_ant, hmm... that seems excessive.
[03:26] <Da_SWAT> thanks god I can still use xchat and firefox
[03:26] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - r u awake?
[03:26] <[LethAL] > Gundjah, No, I'm dead
[03:26] <todd_> besides alsamixer, are there any other options i should check if my sound isnt working?
[03:26] <ompaul> Gundjah, paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:26] <Gundjah> LOL
[03:26] <[LethAL] > XD
[03:26] <Gundjah> ompaul - tnx
[03:26] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK in the instructions it says extract files, then run "make" which i do and this is the error i get
[03:26] <[LethAL] > Gundjah, Why?
[03:27] <volvoguy> marcin_ant, i don't have any suggestions personally except that it just might not be ready for everyday use yet.
[03:27] <emile> i get a 'couldnt stat source package' from the added repositories
[03:27] <marcin_ant> volvoguy, yes propably you are right
[03:27] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - what is the URL where I can dl it?
[03:27] <SteveA> i'm dowmloading a breezy install image to use on a laptop.  i have the MD5SUMS and MD5SUMS.gpg files.  how do i tell what key i need to tell gpg to receive to check the signature against?
[03:27] <butcherbird> todd_, you have sound at all? Music at startup etc?
[03:27] <gerarcone> charolastra: it cannot execute the command :(
[03:28] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=114161&package_id=123638&release_id=320500
[03:28] <charolastra> gerarcone: sucks, you're on your own
[03:28] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - nothing no more, tnx
[03:28] <charolastra> but i'm sure ubuntu hast some documentation on that
[03:28] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - _this_ time :-)
[03:28] <[LethAL] > Gundjah, fair dos
[03:28] <ompaul> SteveA, you can get away with md5sum the image and look at the md5sum iso_name.iso
[03:28] <char1iecha1k> if i can get this going i am gonna be so happy
[03:28] <Gundjah> [LethAL]  - Sorry, didn
[03:28] <todd_> butcherbird, no, but i can see that something is playing in xmms when im using streamtuner
[03:29] <Gundjah> 't get that?
[03:29] <[LethAL] > fair dos ~ ok
[03:29] <gerarcone> charolastra: ok, ok
[03:29] <butcherbird> todd_, hoary or breezy install?
[03:29] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - got it, looking
[03:29] <Gundjah> Ah :)
[03:29] <todd_> butcherbird, breezy
[03:29] <SteveA> ompaul: i'd rather not do so.  what if the file containing the md5sums was altered?  the gpg web of trust is there for a reason.
[03:30] <todd_> butcherbird, i had hoary installed before and the sound worked, but that was when i had just went from windows to linux.  after hoary i installted suse and from then on no sound
[03:30] <[LethAL] > How do I get btdownloadgui (BitTornado) to be GTK-ified again?
[03:31] <todd_> butcherbird, now i have installed breezy to see if the issue is fixed, but no..
[03:31] <ompaul> SteveA, http://linsec.ca/syshardening/trojandownloads.php
[03:31] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - i "think" it is looking for kernel source
[03:32] <butcherbird> todd_, do you have onboard sound(motherboard) and a sound card?
[03:32] <CarlFK> what package will supply /lib/modules/2.6.12-3-686/build/.config ?
[03:32] <selinium> anybody here install acroread on hoary? Do you have /usr/lib/Acrobat5/bin/acroread ?
[03:32] <Leshrac> in which folder are apt-get repositories stored?
[03:32] <test34> how can I enable vino server from ssh remotely ?
[03:32] <todd_> butcherbird, yes, its a laptop
[03:32] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK was that question for me?
[03:32] <Seveas> selinium, acroread 5 is icky
[03:32] <SteveA> ompaul: indeed.  i was expecting the key fingerprint to be listed on the releases page, so i can get it from the keyservers, and check whether it is correctly in the web of trust.
[03:33] <Seveas> there's acroread 7 for linux too :)
[03:33] <Cicakman> hello..... anyone knows why doing 'sudo apt-get install w32codecs' gives the message that w32codecs could not be found in the repository? although i've set up my repository according to the one in ubuntuguide.org
[03:33] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - kinda - it is what you need to figure out
[03:33] <test34> would that work: gconftool-2 --type boolean --set /desktop/gnome/remote_access/enabled "True" ?
[03:33] <Seveas> Cicakman, ubuntuguide is bad and w32codecs is in hoary-extras
[03:33] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK im afraid im a bit of a newbie
[03:33] <selinium> Hi Seveas. ok I will get Acro7 and give it a go!
[03:33] <Cicakman> Seveas: hmm... how do i add that?
[03:33] <Seveas> selinium, PM :)
[03:34] <slept> Cicakman, did you do apt-get update
[03:34] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK are they components of a package or something?
[03:34] <Cicakman> slept: yup
[03:34] <emile> Seveas: can you help getting freenx to run under breezy, the wiki seems broken
[03:34] <persia> Could anyone help me with my keyboard configuration under X?  I'm using a Japanese keyboard, and just figured out how to get the ]  key working, but seem to have lost the underscore.
[03:35] <dave_> can anyone help, apt-get cant find j2re or azureus packages but ive added the extra repo's as listed on ubuntuguide
[03:35] <Cicakman> seveas: what do i need to add to my /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[03:35] <apokryphos> dave_: I think the ubuntulinux still hs the java package
[03:35] <char1iecha1k> i hate being stuck!
[03:36] <apokryphos> dave_: I'll check if Azureus is still in hoary-extras
[03:36] <Seveas> Cicakman, read http://backports.ubuntuforums.org
[03:36] <apokryphos> dave_: ubuntulinux repository, that is. Go to http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl and add the repository mentioned ther.e
[03:36] <Seveas> dave_, apokryphos, that one is broken atm
[03:37] <butcherbird> todd_, not using gnome.  Seveas do you know how to make sure alsa is selcted in gnome. todd_ you might try apt getting libsdl1.2debian-esd if that doesnt work..
[03:37] <apokryphos> ack
[03:37] <apokryphos> Seveas: java packs were taken out of hoary-extras; pretty surprised when I heard. Know how much else was taken out?
[03:37] <apokryphos> Seveas: w32codecs doesn't seem to be there anymore, neither.
[03:37] <Seveas> hmm
[03:38] <ompaul> apokryphos, when?
[03:38] <Seveas> I'll check that later and start mirroring w32 too
[03:38] <dave_> so what do i add from that url?
[03:38] <Seveas> But first to get the repo back up :)
[03:38] <dave_> it seemed to load ok
[03:38] <apokryphos> ompaul: couple days ago, I think. They were "forced to for legal reasons".
[03:38] <erUSUL> apokryphos: was there on Tuesday night when i updated
[03:38] <todd_> butcherbird, ok, thanks
[03:38] <ompaul> fsck
[03:38] <Cicakman> Seveas: i'm afraid i already have hoary-extras in my repo list, and still can't find w32codecs
[03:39] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - I think you need this package: linux-headers-2.6.11-1
[03:39] <pc_> hello
[03:39] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK i was a bout to say look here http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?thread_id=1233618&forum_id=390417
[03:39] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK apt-get ....
[03:39] <apokryphos> Cicakman: it was taken out
[03:39] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - bingo
[03:39] <Cicakman> apokryphos: ummm..... how can i get it now?
[03:40] <kuru> how do I set the proxy on the command prompt?
[03:40] <Gundjah> Does anyone know how to configure X so that I get proper scren resolution? I'm going bananas with this...
[03:40] <kuru> for wget and stuff like that?
[03:40] <dave_> apokryphos, so what do i add from that link?
[03:40] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK are these the latest linux-headers-2.6.11-1
[03:40] <apokryphos> Cicakman: Seveas just said he'd start mirroring it on his repo :)
[03:40] <apokryphos> dave_: it's apparently not working at the moment. Stay tuned
[03:40] <ompaul> !tell Gundjah about resolution
[03:40] <kuru> what's the proxy variable that is?
[03:40] <dave_> it loaded up ok for me
[03:40] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK its asking for 2.6.10-5
[03:40] <kuru> $PROXY ?
[03:40] <ompaul> Gundjah, using ati or nvidia?
[03:40] <Gundjah> ompaul - tnx, but that really doesn't help now. Been there done that.
[03:41] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - you need the same one as the verson of Linux you are running
[03:41] <Cicakman> ah ok... thx
[03:41] <dave_> apokryphos, blackbird test server page yes? seemed ok
[03:41] <ompaul> Gundjah, didn't know :) can you say about the card?
[03:41] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK i cant remember what is the command to find that out
[03:41] <Gundjah> ompaul - I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and put in the correct values. It recognizes both the card and the monitor correctly.
[03:41] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - uname -a
[03:41] <apokryphos> dave_: get the sun- pack then, if the repo is working.
[03:42] <ompaul> Gundjah, so your not running nvidia or adi?
[03:42] <ompaul> Gundjah, so your not running nvidia or ati?
[03:42] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK i am using older ones, is it worth upgrading?
[03:42] <Cicakman> is breezy badger quite stable to be used?
[03:42] <persia> kuru: `info wget` should bring up a page with a lot of details.  There is a link there to information regarding wgt and proxies.
[03:42] <Gundjah> ompaul - Nope - old Matrox. When I put in the HorizSync and VertRefresh, it doesn't write them into xorg.conf. So I added them manually.
[03:42] <apokryphos> Cicakman: for most now, yes.
[03:42] <Gundjah> ompaul - the resulting xorg.conf is as follows:
[03:42] <dave_> apokryphos, it says "Not downloadable via apt. Contact me on IRC to get access" under java
[03:42] <Gundjah> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2298
[03:42] <Cicakman> oh by the way, i tried beagle... doing by simply apt-get install... but it didn't run.. is there anything else i need to do?
[03:42] <a_lacsa> how can I install cdemu in ubuntu?
[03:42] <Cicakman> the same for gdesklet
[03:43] <apokryphos> dave_: go for it, then :).
[03:43] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - I woud use as close to 2.6.8 just cuz it worked for someone else
[03:43] <Gundjah> ompaul - I still cannot run >1024*768
[03:43] <llpamies> Hi, how can I convert a avi to ogm, and add some subtitles ?
[03:43] <eamonn> Cicakman: I find it stable, but my dist-upgrade was a little rocky, mostly because I forgot the most obvious thing (make sure you have ubuntu-desktop...).
[03:43] <dave_> apokryphos, go for it?
[03:43] <Cicakman> eamonn: ubuntu-desktop? what is that for?
[03:43] <apokryphos> dave_: contact Seveas and he'll tell you what's going on
[03:43] <kuru> persia, thanks.. found it (http_proxy)
[03:44] <dave_> ah right
[03:44] <apokryphos> Cicakman: it's the metapackage for ubuntu that brings/depends on many things
[03:44] <Gundjah> The monitor max is 1280*1024, and I've run this on Mandrake at higher resolutions. 1400*1050 is still viewable, higher is unusable
[03:44] <Cicakman> ahhhh
[03:44] <apokryphos> Cicakman: it's useful for calculating the new packages needed/obsoleted in new versions, so make sure you have it before you go for upgrade
[03:44] <ompaul> Gundjah, and ctrl+alt++  (ctrl alt +) done that ?
[03:44] <xukun> can I do sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx to install the nvidia driver on Breezy?
[03:44] <apokryphos> xukun: yes
[03:44] <dave_> apokryphos, cheers
[03:44] <ompaul> Gundjah, and ctrl+alt+-  (ctrl alt -) done that ?
[03:45] <Gundjah> omapaul - just did, and ended up with 800*600
[03:45] <char1iecha1k> which 54g wireless chipsets have native linux support?
[03:45] <Gundjah> ompaul - same with -
[03:45] <dave_> apokryphos, know anything about getting widi cards working, broadcom chipset
[03:45] <xukun> apokryphos, I have done that and everything broken down, I had to reinstall it again
[03:45] <ompaul> Gundjah,  so you are stuck on 800
[03:45] <Cicakman> apokryphos: thx
[03:46] <Gundjah> ompaul - Nope, but preferences / screen resolution won't show over 1024
[03:46] <apokryphos> xukun: did you follow the rest of the instructions on the wiki?
[03:46] <persia> xukun: I would recommend also running `sudo module-assistant` and installing the nvidia module.  You will also need to reonfigure your X server to use the nvidia driver.
[03:46] <eamonn> Cicakman: It's a meta package (list of other packages). Just do an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop before upgrading. Are you upgrading from Hoary or installing from scratch? If installing from scratch, nevermind.
[03:46] <apokryphos> dave_: wifi card? I dunno, but your best bet is following the wiki entry
[03:46] <dave_> right cheers amte
[03:46] <Gundjah> ompaul - and manual editing xorg.conf gets me errors.
[03:46] <dave_> *mate
[03:46] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK well headers installed make still fails with same error
[03:46] <Gundjah> ompaul - does my xorg.conf look somehow wrong to you?
[03:46] <xukun> apokryphos, you mean the one for Hoary?
[03:47] <Cicakman> eamonn: i'm just blubbering here..:P  dont want to install unstable version ...
[03:47] <Cicakman> eamonn: will install it once it is realeased
[03:47] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - look in /lib/modules/2.6.12-3-686/kernel/drivers/net/wireless
[03:47] <llpamies> where can I find a transcode package for ubuntu64 ?
[03:47] <erUSUL> char1iecha1k: check http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/hardware.html
[03:47] <ompaul> Gundjah, no bbut I want to look at my own - have not had to do this for a while :)
[03:47] <Cicakman> funny... why gdesklets doesn't display anything on my desktop
[03:47] <apokryphos> xukun: yes, it's the same method.
[03:47] <CarlFK> llpamies - the tc package is very... "new" so I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't one yet
[03:47] <Cicakman> although the program itself runs... but i don't know what to do next
[03:48] <Gundjah> ompaul - be my guest, shout if you get ideas. I'll fool around with apt repositories meanwhile
[03:48] <Morchuboo> Cicakman, Personally I find Breezy better than Hoary, much improved and stable. Hoary used to have the odd random program close for me, but Breezy has been solid for a while now. It also is much better for getting Ruby working so im happy :)
[03:48] <alienacion> hi
[03:49] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - what dir(s) do you have in /lib/modules/ ?
[03:49] <ompaul> Gundjah, you know yo uonly asted a little bot of xrog.conf but it was the imporant part
[03:49] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK 2.6.10-5
[03:49] <char1iecha1k> -386
[03:49] <Gundjah> ompaul - as far as I know that's what controls the X
[03:49] <apokryphos> xukun: how exactly did it "break your system"?
[03:49] <Gundjah> ompaul - in this sense.
[03:49] <llpamies> CarlFK, how can I extract a video stream from an avi ?
[03:49] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - and what is make looking for?
[03:50] <a_lacsa> what is gcc?
[03:50] <slack7384> GNU C Compiler Collection
[03:50] <a_lacsa> thanks
[03:50] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK i dont know, when you run make is it refering to makefile? if so i will look there
[03:51] <CarlFK> llpamies - build transcode from source (onea way anyway)
[03:51] <Doktoreas> surfing on ubuntu site i see edubuntu...
[03:51] <LinuxJones> Morning everybody !!
[03:51] <Gundjah> Another thing - does Breezy have backports already?
[03:51] <Doktoreas> my amd k6 is for a 14 years old guys
[03:51] <Doktoreas> what do you think about?
[03:51] <Mez> Gundjab: no
[03:51] <llpamies> CarlFK, I tried this but ... /usr/bin/ld: /usr/lib/libavcodec.a(utils.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against `first_avcodec' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
[03:51] <Gundjah> Mez - Tnx
[03:51] <eamonn> Gundjah: I'm not sure I see the point of backports for Breezy...
[03:51] <ompaul> Gundjah http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2299 have a look
[03:51] <LinuxJones> Doktoreas, your wondering about how Ubuntu will run ?
[03:52] <persia> llpamies: The most recent version of transcode doesn't compile cleanly on 64-bit machines.
[03:52] <LucKy_Me> which folder should i extract WIN32 codecs to for Kaffeine to work
[03:52] <Doktoreas> LinuxJones: yup is 128 mb of ram
[03:52] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - are you getting something like Makefile:8: /lib/modules/2.6.12-3-686/build/.config: No such file or directory
[03:52] <Gundjah> ompaul - Yes?
[03:52] <Morchuboo> Gundjah, why would Breezy need backports! - its prety much blleding edge
[03:52] <erUSUL> LucKy_Me: /usr/lib/win32/
[03:52] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK yes
[03:52] <llpamies> persia, any solution for edit video ?
[03:52] <LucKy_Me> Thanks
[03:53] <erUSUL> LucKy_Me: you better use prepackaged codecs
[03:53] <LinuxJones> Doktoreas, it will be quite slow, you will want to install something like xfce or icewm (lower resource desktop environment)
[03:53] <CarlFK> llpamies also have a look at mplayer/mencoder
[03:53] <carbo> according to a page on the wiki i'm supposed to "add line to xorg.conf ("Option "MonitorLayout" "LVDS,AUTO")"... how do i do that? i have opened xorg.conf in emacs, where do i put these options?
[03:53] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK then it says "make: *** no rule to make target ' blah blah blah"
[03:53] <twibbler> hi all...... I have lost my multiple windows. can anybody tll me where to reset them please ....
[03:53] <Gundjah> ompaul - looks about the same as mine.
[03:53] <persia> llpamies: I don't do that myself, but I know that ffmpeg compiled for 64-bits.  Maybe it can help you?
[03:53] <LinuxJones> llpamies, there are a few video editing programs available but they are basic at the moment
[03:53] <Gundjah> ompaul - so what the funk is wrong with this thing?
[03:54] <creart> Could anyone tell me, how to install some codecs... it seems i cant even play my mp3's ??
[03:54] <persia> !tell creart about mp3
[03:55] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK i have looked at the makefile but i dont understand it - if you like i can paste it to you in a pm
[03:55] <creart> thx
[03:55] <Doktoreas> LinuxJones: Icewm is on the default ubuntu installation cd?
[03:56] <LinuxJones> Doktoreas, no but it's very easy to install
[03:56] <CarlFK> llpamies - it took me a while to get everything setup so tc would build for me
[03:56] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - give me a min or so.  ill see if I can get it to build here
[03:57] <kartug> hi @ all
[03:57] <kartug> im totally new here
[03:57] <CarlFK> hi kartug
[03:57] <lars> is there a way to get cedega ?
[03:57] <kartug> hi could anyone help me out with a trivial little thing?
[03:57] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK thanks
[03:58] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK its more likely im not doing somehting
[03:58] <kartug> im still pretty fresh to linux but not totally green behind the ears
[03:58] <CarlFK> kartug - no, cuz we have no idea what it is ;)
[03:58] <kartug> hehe lol
[03:58] <kartug> getting there
[03:58] <persia> kartug: If you ask, and someone knows, they'll probably tell you.
[03:58] <kartug> I just got myself Kubuntu
[03:58] <kartug> Now i was wondering...I saw some KDE's that have CPU stats on the desktop
[03:59] <kartug> like fan speed /cpu temp root usage etc
[03:59] <lars> Where i can i find cedega ?
[03:59] <twibbler> ok seems I asked the wrong question... my multiple workspaces have disappeared .... anybody know how to get them back please .....
[03:59] <slack7384> kartug - that is superkaramba applets
[03:59] <paulproteus> twibbler: GNOME or KDE?
[03:59] <kartug> oh ok...
[03:59] <dbzdeath> lars: pay the subscription fee and download and install it? :P
[03:59] <kartug> i was wondering what that was
[03:59] <kartug> :p
[03:59] <CarlFK> lol superkaramba - I like that name
[03:59] <twibbler> paulproteus Gnome ....
[03:59] <kartug> lemme install it quickly
[03:59] <persia> lars: It's a commercial product from transgaming.
[04:00] <kartug> does it work with apt-get?
[04:00] <paulproteus> persia: It's available under the LGPL.
[04:00] <paulproteus> lars: Google for cedega+ubuntu .You should find a HOWTO.
[04:00] <slack7384> kartug - superkaramba is found at kde-look.org and on ubuntu apt-get servers
[04:00] <ompaul> Gundjah, I am at as much of a loss as you are
[04:00] <paulproteus> twibbler: Do you have the workspace switcher applet in your GNOME bar?
[04:00] <paulproteus> The bar at the bottom.
[04:00] <kartug> thx slack :)
[04:00] <dbzdeath> should just be able to install the deb from their site
[04:00] <tgwj> hi! I have just installed kubuntu hoary in vmware on windows and want to connect to it via XDMPC via Xming. I can ping the VM, but when I tell Xming to connect it fails.
[04:00] <slack7384> kartug - it may be on universe though, so check to be sure
[04:01] <deFrysk> twibbler, right click panet > add to panel >workspace switcher
[04:01] <twibbler> paulproteus: Nope ... have nothing availabe to switch worspaces ...
[04:01] <paulproteus> twibbler: Follow deFrysk's advice.
[04:01] <deFrysk> panel*
[04:01] <kartug> hmm lemme check...i replaced some of those repositories
[04:01] <llpamies> How can I play a video with and extren subtitle in totem ?
[04:01] <llpamies> external
[04:01] <satafterh> where can i download w32codecs
[04:01] <ompaul> Gundjah, the last time I saw something like that it was a matter of not getting the refresh rate for the card correctly - rather than telling it you have X card -- call it the XYZZTOP card monitor and put in all the values by hand
[04:02] <slack7384> kartug - should be in standard ubuntu repos
[04:02] <thoreauputic> twibbler: you can also switch with ctrl-alt- arrow IIRC
[04:02] <twibbler> deFrysk: paulproteus:   thank you back now ..... ... (Hum wonder why it had gone ...)
[04:02] <dbzdeath> tgwj: i know nothing about those two programs... but vmware i know a bit about ... if you can ping the vmware machine then one of the other two programs would most likely be the problem
[04:02] <Gundjah> ompaul - not to worry - so have been many others in the past 2 weeks...
[04:02] <dbzdeath> satafterh: backports
[04:02] <kartug> slack7384 - found it :)
[04:02] <ompaul> Gundjah, it may be a wrong definition somewhere
[04:02] <twibbler> thoreaputic: like that thank you ...
[04:02] <Gundjah> ompaul - so you mean not letting dpkg configure automatically?
[04:02] <slack7384> kartug - cool :)
[04:02] <ompaul> Gundjah, yap
[04:03] <kartug> slack7384 - im definatly stickin with linux lol....really liking what i see
[04:03] <cycom> this is bizzare. the problem with my sound card seems to be resolved my telling GDM not to make noise at the login prompt with aplay. the aplay process for the sound would just running till killed.
[04:03] <kartug> one more q though...i just tried make for splint
[04:03] <slack7384> kartug - i know what you mean ;-)
[04:03] <tgwj> I configured kdm to allow xdmcp and Xming (an X server for win32) to connect to it. no go.
[04:03] <satafterh> do you know the souce to add to the souce list for back ports?
[04:03] <kartug> when i run the command it says no rules or target
[04:04] <slack7384> kartug - when you run superkaramba from konsole?
[04:04] <kartug> slack7384 - I was referring to something else lol...sorry i should have made that clear
[04:04] <kartug> slack7384 - tried to install lint
[04:04] <slack7384> kartug - no problem ;-)
[04:05] <eamonn> Hi all, I'm having a bit of a problem with fetchmail on breezy. email send via /usr/bin/mail goes where I expect it to, but anything sent via fetchmail appears to be going to the bit bucket. More details: http://pastebin.com/367053 Can anyone spot what I'm missing?
[04:05] <kartug> slack7384 - problem is im really noobish with makefiles
[04:05] <kartug> slack7384 - never dealt directly with the equivalent under winblows
[04:05] <slack7384> kartug - well, best way to learn is from mistakes, right?
[04:05] <paulproteus> slack7384: lint is available in the repositories, no?
[04:05] <kartug> slack7384 - hehe yeah...but after the last hour of trying i thought i ask :p
[04:05] <erUSUL> eamonn: fetchmail does not send mail it fetch it
[04:06] <paulproteus> tgwj: What do you mean "no go"?
[04:06] <paulproteus> Do you know that by default Ubuntu's X server does not listen on the TCP socket?
[04:06] <paulproteus> tgwj: Did you change that?
[04:06] <persia> tgwj: You might want to check that your XDMCP is listening to tcp (with `netstat -ntlp`)
[04:06] <paulproteus> tgwj: Or did you need to?  Maybe you don't need to.
[04:06] <mjr> paulproteus, you don't need to
[04:06] <mjr> xdmcp is separate from that
[04:06] <paulproteus> mjr: Huh, interesting.
[04:06] <eamonn> erUSUL: Yes, I realize that, but what I use it for is to fetch email from my ISP account and forward (via a .forward file) to my gmail account. It worked in Hoary, but has stopped working since I dist-upgraded to Breezy.
[04:06] <CarlFK> paulproteus - ubuntu has a "no open ports" policy to keep it "safer"
[04:07] <char1iecha1k> erUSUL i have looked at lots of places to find compatibility with wifi & linux it i get very contrasting messages
[04:07] <paulproteus> CarlFK: Totally a good idea, Mac OS-style.
[04:07] <kartug> paulproteus - is it?
[04:07] <slack7384> kartug - you are looking for lint to do what exactly?
[04:07] <tgwj> am I right in thinking that xdmcp is a protocol which allows an X server to connect to a remote display manager ?
[04:07] <entirer> d
[04:07] <entirer> sorry
[04:07] <slack7384> kartug - you could check using synaptic search tool ;-)
[04:07] <BlueEagle> !RestrictedFormats
[04:07] <ubotu> hmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[04:07] <kartug> slack7384 - im studyin computer science mate ;)...lotsa coding to be done
[04:08] <Vespoli> hello
[04:08] <persia> tgwj: It's one of them (and probably the easiest)
[04:08] <slack7384> kartug - so you're lookin for the Java program checker?
[04:08] <eamonn> erUSUL: I suspect I had made a change in Hoary and then had the config overwritten when I dist-upgraded. I just can't remember what. Short/long-term memory loss. It happens to old folks like me.
[04:08] <kartug> slack7384 - now i know that doesnt go well with being new to linux lol...so dun flame me too much...i know I have sinned :p
[04:08] <Vespoli> question : how can I get the latest 2.6.12-8 kernel sources?
[04:08] <dbzdeath> tgwj: go with x11vnc if you ask me... its great
[04:08] <Vespoli> I have 2.6.12 but I can't get the sources for it
[04:08] <kartug> slack7384 - lint should work with C
[04:08] <dbzdeath> can even encrypt it via ssh easily
[04:08] <kartug> slack7384 - thats what im after
[04:08] <tgwj> ok. I configured kdm to enable xdmcp. I told the remote X server the IP of kdm.
[04:08] <Vespoli> it says they don't exist ;'(
[04:08] <paulproteus> tgwj: Did you restart KDM?
[04:09] <tgwj> dbzdeath, the point is accelerated graphics
[04:09] <erUSUL> eamonn: i'm afrais i can not help you never have a set up like this :(
[04:09] <tgwj> paulproteus yes
[04:09] <deFrysk> Vespoli, look for linux-source , not kernel-source
[04:09] <Vespoli> :o
[04:09] <Vespoli> :D
[04:09] <Vespoli> ty
[04:09] <lsuactiafner> Vespoli : kernel.org
[04:09] <eamonn> Vespoli: apt-get install linux-source.
[04:09] <slack7384> kartug - package name for lint in ubuntu apt-repos is splint.
[04:09] <_n00blar_> Breezy Badger comes with java 1.42...anyone knows the package name to remove it? I need to run java 1.5 since Limewire's bombing out on me
[04:09] <Vespoli> so those should be the sources for my kernel I installed ubuntu with ?
[04:09] <kartug> slack7384 - hmm...ok gimme a sec
[04:10] <eamonn> erUSUL: That's OK. Thanks anyway. Anyone else?
[04:10] <persia> Vespoli: sudo aptitude install linux-source-2.6.12
[04:10] <eamonn> Vespoli: yes.
[04:10] <a_lacsa> how do I always login as root?
[04:10] <Vespoli> k
[04:10] <kartug> slack7384 - ok sweet
[04:10] <eamonn> a_lacsa: sudo -s and then *your* password.
[04:10] <slack7384> kartug - enjoy ;-)
[04:10] <Vespoli> why can't I update ?!?
[04:10] <a_lacsa> can I do this at start up?
[04:10] <kartug> slack7384 - thx mate :)
[04:10] <Vespoli> (another problem :P)
[04:11] <Vespoli> I try, type in my pass and failes
[04:11] <CarlFK> how can I make my floppy automount?
[04:11] <eamonn> a_lacsa: you don't. Why would you want to?
[04:11] <slack7384> kartug - no problem
[04:11] <persia> a_lacsa: You really don't want to log in as root.
[04:11] <_n00blar_> a_lacsa, you don't want to run always as root
[04:11] <butcherbird> a_lacsa, not without enabling the root account and then changing settings in gdmconfig
[04:11] <gerarcone> i have installed kde on ubuntu with sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[04:11] <gerarcone> how can i do to unistall-it?
[04:11] <a_lacsa> ahh
[04:11] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK it says that i need the kernel source installed to compile the drivers, does that make sense?
[04:11] <kartug> ok lemme see if i can get superkaramba to run properly :p
[04:11] <satafterh> whats the all in one codec file called
[04:11] <a_lacsa> got it
[04:12] <_n00blar_> gerarcone, use remove instead of install should do it?
[04:12] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - yes
[04:12] <a_lacsa> Because I don't want to always give my password and I can't seem to get in to some folders
[04:12] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - I was just about to try that to see if it would do it
[04:12] <slack7384> kartug - sounds good.
[04:12] <Vespoli> Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/build;
[04:12] <Vespoli>   give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path> argument to make
[04:12] <eamonn> a_lacsa: are you running as the *first* account you created when installing ubuntu? Try doing that instead.
[04:12] <persia> gerarcone: You could try aptitude install ubuntu-desktop: aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop, but it might leave a bit behind
[04:12] <Vespoli> ?????????/
[04:13] <a_lacsa> Yes I am
[04:13] <cef> argh! why can't we have a decent bug tracking system.. *sigh*
[04:13] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK is that apt-get again?
[04:13] <persia> Vespoli: Did you maybe want linux-headers-`uname -r` instead of linux-source?
[04:13] <eamonn> a_lacsa: What message are you getting when you try sudo -s?
[04:13] <apokryphos> cef: bugzilla would be pretty good with more modifications IMO
[04:14] <deFrysk> gerarcone, sudo apt-get remove libqt3-mt to remove all kede apps
[04:14] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - yes, but give me a sec to figure out which package (im on a test box that I can screw up)
[04:14] <apokryphos> cef: kde's tweaked it up to work pretty darn well if I may say so.
[04:14] <BiSK-8> hello
[04:14] <eamonn> a_lacsa: And what are you trying to do? Maybe there's an easier way.
[04:14] <_n00blar_> Breezy Badger comes with java 1.42...anyone knows the package name to remove it?
[04:14] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK o great thanks, i ought to get myself a sandbox
[04:14] <cef> apokryphos: yeah.. a lot of modifications.. and a proper mail interface for something like reportbug so that it could actually be useful
[04:14] <zxsykco> Any one have any suggestions for burning .iso images with ubuntu?
[04:14] <BiSK-8> can any1 tell me a good vb3 and vb6 decompiler that i can get through apt-get?
[04:14] <apokryphos> deFrysk: you'd remove others though with that too, which use Qt. i.e. Skype, if it's installed.
[04:15] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - apt-get install kernel-source will give a list of choices, but none are the version I am running
[04:15] <_n00blar_> zxsykco, try gnomebaker
[04:15] <a_lacsa> I'm trying to get in to cedega's fake windows directory
[04:15] <deFrysk> apokryphos, he want to remove all kde apps so stiop wining
[04:15] <zxsykco> Never heard of it.
[04:15] <zxsykco> I'll check it out, thanks.
[04:15] <apokryphos> deFrysk: please don't be silly; that was a FYI, not a whine.
[04:16] <_n00blar_> zxsykco, or install K3b
[04:16] <CarlFK> BiSK-8 - I doubt you will find a VB3/6 compiler.  There is the mono project that will do VB.net
[04:16] <deFrysk> apokryphos, I am not a dodo
[04:16] <gerarcone> deFrysk: that's all?
[04:16] <deFrysk> gerarcone, thats all
[04:16] <eamonn> a_lacsa: you must have installed cedega somehow... You had to be root to do that, right?
[04:16] <persia> CarlFK: You are probably looking for linux-source or linux-headers-`uname -r`, depending on what you are trying to do.
[04:16] <gerarcone> deFrysk: ok thanks
[04:16] <a_lacsa> yep
[04:16] <char1iecha1k> 1:30 mins for 30meg boy do i love my cable :)
[04:16] <a_lacsa> I just finished installing cedega
[04:17] <deFrysk> gerarcone, if you miss anything after removing kde you can simply reinstall the single apps with synaptic/apt-get
[04:17] <CarlFK> persia - but what source do I get if I am running 2.6.12-8-386 ?
[04:17] <slack7384> kartug - any luck yet on superkaramba?
[04:17] <BiSK-8> carlfk, and what should i do?
[04:17] <gerarcone> deFrysk: in effect i can find some things
[04:17] <_icebreaker_> is there a tool like winscp for linux/ubuntu?
[04:17] <Vespoli> gftp
[04:18] <apokryphos> _icebreaker_: what is that? FTP client?
[04:18] <Vespoli> not only
[04:18] <gerarcone> deFrysk: is there a way to reinstall all of theme once in a time?
[04:18] <BiSK-8> carlfk, i need 2 decompile a program
[04:18] <Vespoli> _icebreaker_, gftp
[04:18] <BlueEagle> Why am I missing w32codecs in my repository? I've got deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted in my sources.list but apt-cache search w32codecs doesn't find any packages.
[04:18] <_icebreaker_> transfering files via sshd
[04:18] <deFrysk> gerarcone, sudo apt-get install <app>
[04:18] <ion_bidon> hello, I have installed ubuntu 5.10 preview and I was not asked for a root password on the installation, how can I change the root password ?
[04:18] <persia> CarlFK: 2.6.12-8-386 was built from linux-source-2.6.12, but if you need a specific match, you're probably trying to compile modules, for which you really want linux-headers-2.6.12-8-386.
[04:18] <Vespoli> sudo apt-get install gftp
[04:18] <CarlFK> BiSK-8 if you have to run "that app", look at wine.  otherwise find a Linux based solution
[04:18] <Vespoli> _icebreaker_, sudo apt-get install gftp
[04:18] <deFrysk> gerarcone, or do a search with synaptic and install it with synaptic
[04:18] <kartug> slack7384 - still downloading Borealis :p
[04:19] <bpuccio> _icebreaker_: you can also go to places --> connect to server --> fill in the server name, connect on port 22 (usually that's what ssh runs on) and it will intergrate with nautilus
[04:19] <deFrysk> !tell gerarcone about synaptic
[04:19] <BlueEagle> ion_bidon: That's in the faq. sudo is your friend
[04:19] <deFrysk> !tell gerarcone about apt-get
[04:19] <tucoz> Hi, I am looking for a media-player plugin for firefox. Kaffeine-plugin crashes firefox occasionally.
[04:19] <kartug> slack7384 - hmm...ok its done downloading
[04:19] <gerarcone> deFrysk: ok, i'll do in that way
[04:19] <Vespoli> !tell Vespoli about synaptic
[04:19] <CarlFK> persia - trying to buil a nic driver
[04:19] <deFrysk> gerarcone, ubotu send you some info
[04:19] <BlueEagle> tucoz: mplayer works as far as I know.
[04:19] <BiSK-8> carkfk, ithe app has missing dll, so i cant run it. but i must crack it to find the hidden user and pass in the code....must i go use win to do this operation
[04:19] <ion_bidon> BlueEagle: thank you very much, I have tried su but no results :) I will try with sudo
[04:19] <gerarcone> deFrysk: thanks for the faqs, very useful
[04:19] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK kernel source and headers installed still get same error
[04:19] <BiSK-8> ?
[04:19] <deFrysk> gerarcone, yw
[04:20] <BlueEagle> ion_bidon: sudo asks for a password. This is the password of the currently logged on user.
[04:20] <gerarcone> deFrysk: yw?
[04:20] <BlueEagle> !root
[04:20] <ubotu> root is probably disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:20] <ion_bidon> BlueEagle: thank you
[04:20] <deFrysk> gerarcone, your welcome ;)
[04:20] <BlueEagle> !tell ion_bidon about root
[04:20] <tucoz> BlueEagle: ok, I might try that. But the commandline mplayer stutters on sound playback. Don't know what causes that, except that it has something to do with alsa.
[04:20] <kartug> slack7384 - ok I got the tar....
[04:20] <persia> CarlFK: Yep.  You want to run "sudo aptitude install linux-kernel-headers-`uname -r`  to get everything set up.  It's even easier if after doing this, you run `sudo module-assistant` to manage the build (assuming the sources are available from the repositories).
[04:20] <BlueEagle> tucoz: set -ao oss to cure that.
[04:20] <gerarcone> deFrysk: :)
[04:20] <BlueEagle> tucoz: atleast that is what fixed it for me.
[04:21] <tucoz> BlueEagle, ok, thanks
[04:21] <slack7384> kartug - are you compiling from source? or extracting the binary?
[04:21] <BlueEagle> tucoz: unless you've disabled esd then alsa should (in theory) work well.
[04:21] <kartug> slack7384 - well i just untared it....
[04:21] <tucoz> Don't know what I have :). I can give it a try.
[04:21] <kartug> slack7384 - theres some .theme files in there
[04:21] <CarlFK> persia - where does module-assistant come from?
[04:21] <kartug> slack7384 - i should be able to install them over control center
[04:22] <BlueEagle> tucoz: To find out have a look-see in the miltimedia system selector in System->Administration
[04:22] <persia> CarlFK: universe/misc
[04:22] <kartug> slack7384 - ok lol guess i was wrong
[04:22] <tucoz> BlueEagle, yes it works :)
[04:22] <CarlFK> persia - thanks
[04:22] <BlueEagle> tucoz: To set it as default add ao=oss to .mplayer/config
[04:22] <BlueEagle> (in your home directory)
[04:22] <tucoz> BlueEagle: great, thanks
[04:23] <tucoz> was just about to ask
[04:23] <tucoz> :)
[04:23] <BlueEagle> tucoz: also you might want to set vo=xv there
[04:23] <tucoz> for video overlay?
[04:23] <kartug> slack7384 - wait...it has an install script :D
[04:23] <BlueEagle> tucoz: Yes. Not sure what the default is, but on my system it was not scaling to full-screen correctly.
[04:24] <tucoz> not here either
[04:24] <tucoz> so, i'll try that as well
[04:24] <_icebreaker_> anybody knows a method to recover a lost zip password
[04:24] <BlueEagle> tucoz: ...and if you've got an ATi card and want to play mplayer video on the tv-out you need to use the gl2 video overlay (atleast that's what coolbeer told me)
[04:24] <Leshrac> how do I make a backup of X, just in case I screw up while installing the ati drivers?
[04:25] <BlueEagle> leshrac: You don't back up the entire X. What might want to do is to backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[04:25] <tucoz> BlueEagle: I have a ati card, but don't use it for tv-out atm. I'll remember that for later. Thanks alot btw.
[04:25] <persia> Leshrac: You don't need a backup of everything.  You'd probably do fine just to back up /etc/X11/xf86Config-4 or xorg.conf (depending on your distribution)
[04:25] <a_lacsa> may I know the channel for wine?
[04:25] <char1iecha1k> how do i install a .deb file?
[04:25] <BlueEagle> leshrac: That is where the driver is chosen. The other drivers are not replaced by the ATi driver as it is in some other operating systems I know.
[04:25] <persia> char1iecha1k: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[04:26] <BlueEagle> leshrac: (ie. the files remain intact regardless of which other drivers are installed)
[04:26] <Leshrac> ok then, I thought it worked like in windows
[04:26] <CarlFK> persia - Makefile for this wifi driver has: KSRC := /lib/modules/$(KVER)/build and  $(KSRC)/.config - guessing I need to point them somewhere else?
[04:26] <BlueEagle> leshrac: Nahh.. That would just be stupid. :p
[04:26] <kartug> slack7384 - hmm...im still doing something wrong :s :p
[04:26] <Leshrac> I know... I know...
[04:26] <persia> CarlFK: Which driver?
[04:27] <CarlFK> persia rtl8180-sa2400
[04:27] <char1iecha1k> thanks persia
[04:27] <akuut> halooo ada yang dari indonesia??
[04:27] <slack7384> kartug - did you try using apt-get superkaramba?
[04:28] <CarlFK> persia im just tryiing to help char1iecha1k
[04:28] <kartug> slack7384 - yeah no worries there
[04:28] <kartug> slack7384 - i think i found what im doing wrong
[04:28] <kartug> hey did anyone here ever use 3ddesktop before?
[04:28] <mon> hi. does anyone know by any chance why tomcat isn't available in Ubuntu? (Hoary||Breezy)
[04:28] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK i found a .deb rtl8180 package i am just installing it atm
[04:28] <CarlFK> persia if you want the source: //easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/rtl8180-sa2400/rtl8180-0.21.tar.gz
[04:29] <persia> CarlFK: Ah..  I don't see it in the repositories.  In that case, you just need to set KSRC to /usr/src/linux
[04:29] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK it seems to have wokred but i have no idea what to  do now
[04:29] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - i should have thought of that...
[04:29] <kartug> slack7384 - ok got it running mate :)
[04:29] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - that = find package.  go back to the README/INATLL in the source you got
[04:29] <kartug> slack7384 - thx for the help so far...i'll let ya know when its done
[04:30] <slack7384> kartug - awesome
[04:30] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK what do you want me to do?
[04:30] <akuut> wah nggak ada yang dari indonesia neh??
[04:30] <tucoz> BlueEagle, ah, thanks. Nice to get rid of that kaffeine-plugin. Thanks for the help
[04:31] <eamonn> Hi all, I'm having trouble getting fetchmail to work on breezy, even though it worked fine on Hoary. My .forward file just has one email address in it and my .fetchmailrc file looks like this: http://pastebin.com/367065 My mail set up seems to be working because /usr/bin/mail is able to email a message anywhere. What am I missing?
[04:31] <char1iecha1k> how do i reinitialise hardware?
[04:31] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - read the part under "3.4 Diagnostics" after you have read the parts above it ;)
[04:33] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK i used a different package in the end, it was a .deb file it seemed to install ok
[04:33] <BlueEagle> tucoz: no problem at all. :)
[04:33] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - is it working?
[04:33] <char1iecha1k> i dont know i just rebooted
[04:33] <kartug> hmmm weird
[04:34] <Leshrac> I have dowloaded this file from www.ati.com: "ati-driver-installer-8.16.20-i386.run" now, how do I install it?
[04:34] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK i messed around with a lot of stuff untill no, not sure of anyhthing
[04:34] <erUSUL> !tell Leshrac about ati
[04:34] <persia> Could anyone help me with my X configuration?  I have a japanese keyboard, and if I set XkbLayout to "jp", the '] ' key doesn't work, but if I set it to "jp106", the underscore doesn't work.  I'm not sure what else to try.
[04:34] <tucoz> Does anyone here experience/heard of trouble mounting the ubuntu/debian live/installer cd's?
[04:34] <_n00blar_> Leshrac, i think u do sh <filename> - the instructions are on ATI's website :)
[04:34] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - the .deb is probably just that same code compiled and setup to install nicely.  it isn't like each Linux distro has it's own source code
[04:35] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK well it didnt do anything
[04:35] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - although each distro does patch and configure things differently
[04:35] <Zhukov_> Seveas, are you there?
[04:35] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK or rather it didnt make it work straihgtawaw
[04:35] <tucoz> Or does this have to do with a bad cd-reader on my part?
[04:35] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - so look in the INSTALL file for tips
[04:36] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK can i assume that the .deb went ok so i dont need to do the make?
[04:36] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - so look in the INSTALL file for tips !!!  ;)
[04:36] <carbo> i just booted up into gnome and i got an error message about failing to start Hal. What's Hal?
[04:36] <dell500> i just updated everything, and firefox won't let me use the default profile, so i had to make a new one and now all my bookmarks are gone
[04:37] <reiki> dell500, did it say the profile is in use?
[04:37] <kartug> hey anyone1 know what could cause superkaramba to crash?
[04:37] <kartug> i just tried to install Borealis theme using superkaramba and it keeps on crashin
[04:37] <Leshrac> _n00blar_ I'm trying, but it tells me access denied, and I am already root.
[04:37] <CarlFK> tucoz - I have had trouble with CD's - I got a DVD drive that only reads disks when the cat is in the room or some other such random event
[04:37] <persia> tucoz: There was quite a discussion some time ago about verifying the CD integrity: apparently some CDs don't burn perfectly, but it could as easily be your hardware.  Probably the easiest way to check would be to try to make an iso of your CD, and see if the md5sum matches the downloaded iso (if that is an option).
[04:37] <Kyral> Hey if I change the passwd on my user account, it affects sudo right?
[04:38] <stylus_> hi there.
[04:38] <eamonn> Kyral: yes.
[04:38] <CarlFK> persia - no need to make the ISO - there is an md5sum file on the CD
[04:38] <Kyral> eamonn, good, 'cause I think I may have been compromised. Random shutdowns
[04:38] <stylus_> I'm thinking of switching from windows xp to ubuntu
[04:38] <stylus_> so i need some info
[04:38] <CarlFK> persia - course that doesn't check the boot file stuff...
[04:38] <tucoz> persia: the md5sum is nice
[04:38] <tucoz> hrm, fine I mean
[04:38] <persia> CarlFK: Yes, but that's guaranteed to match the real files.  The idea is to check if the CD is corrupt somehow.
[04:38] <eamonn> Kyral: You haven't *enabled* the root account, right?
[04:39] <reiki> stylus_, I switched over 4 weeks ago. small learning curve
[04:39] <Kyral> eamonn, nope :D
[04:39] <Kyral> I hate that root account
[04:39] <stylus_> first of all - Im a graphics and web page developer, so is it really worth it, are there software available for linux that will allow me to create psd, smf, php, html. etc...
[04:39] <dell500> reiki, yes it did
[04:39] <persia> tucoz: Hrm...  Do you get any errors when you try to mount it?
[04:39] <tucoz> CarlFK: I have a two month old laptop w/ dvd-writer. Only the debian, ubuntu, kubuntu installers are giving me a hard time mounting the drive
[04:40] <nibbler> stylus_, hmm
[04:40] <carbo> stylus_, i'm a design student and my winxp just crashed. lost most of my work. i'm switching to ubuntu too. Gimp is a popular imaging software, kinda like photoshop
[04:40] <kartug> ayone?
[04:40] <eamonn> Kyral: the log files should note when the shutdown command is invoked. Compromise is possible, but unlikely. You may be just crashing...
[04:40] <reiki> stylus_, you'd switch from photoshop to the Gimp. Bit of a learning curve there. Not sure what makes flash files in linux. everything else... html, php, all that... no problem
[04:40] <wezzer> try gimpshop
[04:40] <nibbler> stylus_, http://ubuntuguide.org/ also that wil help you a lot
[04:40] <nibbler> gimpshop is mad :D
[04:40] <Kyral> eamonn, its been stable like crazy up 'til now
[04:40] <wezzer> :P
[04:41] <CarlFK> stylus_ - check out http://www.nvu.com
[04:41] <tucoz> persia: it's not the actual mounting that is giving me a hard time. It's in the install process, when that the installer tries to mount the cd after a while. I then have to wish for good luck, and retry over and over again.
[04:41] <Kyral> and in the logs before, I noticed a strange flurry of DCHP Release and Renews
[04:41] <reiki> dell500, if it told you the profile was in use, then firefox was not completely shut down and may have still had an instance running.
[04:41] <carbo> is there a way for me to see the stuff on my windows partitions?
[04:41] <red_blood> stylus_ download nvu, it's like dreamweaver
[04:41] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK none of the files i need to insmod exist
[04:41] <dell500> reiki, k, what should i do?
[04:41] <nibbler> nvu is good, though if you'd rather write your websites gedit is very good for basic web site writing, though I personally use jedit as it is far more advanced :)\
[04:41] <dell500> reiki, sudo killall firefox ??
[04:41] <erUSUL> !tell carbo about WindowDrives
[04:41] <persia> tucoz: Ahh...  I see.  Unfortunately I'm not famlilar enough with the installer to provide any useful suggestions.
[04:42] <erUSUL> !tell carbo about WindowsDrives
[04:42] <reiki> dell500, first you have to determine if there's a firefox instance running and shut all firefox instances down. Then restart firefox using your original profile
[04:42] <tucoz> hmm, there are a ubuntu-install channel as well? or was that debian?
[04:42] <carbo> erUSUL, thanks
[04:42] <Gundjah> ompaul - got it straightened out. Interested?
[04:42] <persia> !tell nibbler about ubuntuguide
[04:42] <javi_> hi
[04:42] <Da_SWAT> I broke my Ubuntu install. How can I fix it? (without losing my data/config)
[04:42] <erUSUL> carbo: you are wellcome
[04:42] <red_blood> carbo, go to www.ubuntuguide.org, there is the explanation for acces to your data in the window$ partitions (sorry for my english)
[04:43] <javi_> someone speak spanish?
[04:43] <BlueEagle> !w32codecs
[04:43] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repository. AMD64? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 Legal issues: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:43] <persia> !faq
[04:43] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)
[04:43] <reiki> !es
[04:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:43] <Gobbla_> no se
[04:43] <CarlFK> tucoz - here is how I do my isntalls: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LocalNet
[04:43] <erUSUL> Da_SWAT: what is broken?
[04:43] <nibbler> persia, please don't message me (or cause bots to) - send the messages to the person asking for the information
[04:43] <Zhukov_> Seveas,
[04:43] <Leshrac> javi_ : ve a #ubuntu_es
[04:43] <BlueEagle> why am I having troubles finding w32codecs in the hoary-extras repository?
[04:43] <dell500> reiki, how might i do that??
[04:43] <erUSUL> javi_: #ubuntu-es
[04:43] <Da_SWAT> erUSUL,    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66749    so I guess it's pretty much
[04:43] <nibbler> BlueEagle, people have been playing with things
[04:43] <erUSUL> javi_: i'm there too
[04:44] <javi_> ok
[04:44] <reiki> dell500, I'm assuming that sudo killall firefox would do it
[04:44] <javi_> sorry
[04:44] <javi_> bye
[04:44] <nibbler> sudo killall mozilla-firefox wouldn't it be?
[04:44] <Da_SWAT> erUSUL, when I start gnome or certain apps, my system freezes. When I config my dual-screen setup, it doesn't work.
[04:44] <dell500> ya, it just said there are no processes of firefox
[04:44] <dell500> tahnks nibbler
[04:44] <BlueEagle> nibbler: Any clue as to where I can find the w32codecs.deb to work around the "good ideas"(tm)
[04:44] <reiki> nibbler: might be that... I haven't had to do this in Ubuntu yet
[04:44] <BlueEagle> ?
[04:44] <Da_SWAT> erUSUL, All of this happened since I last updated my Ubuntu (apt-get)
[04:45] <tucoz> CarlFK. thanks. But, I got hoary installed so I'm fine for now. Just thought I give the breezy live-cd a spin. Too bad I got those Issues
[04:45] <dell500> nope, niether worked
[04:45] <nibbler> BlueEagle, I normally get them from mplayerhq - as I use debian (doesn't have the codecs in packages like ubuntu)
[04:45] <Kyral> how do I map my IP to my computer name?
[04:45] <fpjdp> !wine
[04:45] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run [some]  windows programs. To install a recent version, go through the tutorial at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996 ; for more info and apps that work with it, see http://www.winehq.org
[04:45] <nibbler> BlueEagle, I personally don't know why they are gone - though I noticed a bunch of the usual packages I use to setup ubuntu boxes were gone when I set this box up today
[04:45] <fpjdp> !thx
[04:45] <ubotu> fpjdp: Are you on ritalin?
[04:45] <Kyral> so when I go to SSH into it I can do ssh myname@mycomputername instead of myname@mycomputerIP?
[04:45] <fpjdp> !thanks
[04:45] <ubotu> de rien, fpjdp
[04:45] <fpjdp> :)
[04:45] <erUSUL> Da_SWAT: breezy?
[04:46] <a_lacsa> is there a built in firewall for hoary hedgehog?
[04:46] <CarlFK> nibbler - like decss?  (that seemed to evaporate)
[04:46] <BlueEagle> nibbler: Well, some repos are not enabled by default, but every piece of documentation sais that w32codecs should be in the hoary-extra repos.
[04:46] <a_lacsa> if not, which one do you recommend?
[04:46] <erUSUL> Kyral: /etc/hosts or set up a dns server
[04:46] <BlueEagle> :(
[04:46] <BlueEagle> nibbler: Will get it from mplayerhq.hu. Thanks for the tip. :)
[04:46] <Da_SWAT> erUSUL, no.
[04:47] <reiki> dell500,  sudo ps aux | grep firefox  ... should tell if you have an instance running and as what
[04:47] <nibbler> BlueEagle, I have most of the repos
[04:47] <Kyral> erUSUL, so I would put <ip> <myname>?
[04:47] <Da_SWAT> erUSUL, it's Hoary. 2.6.11-1 kernel
[04:48] <erUSUL> Kyral: yes in all machines machines
[04:48] <dell500> reiki, is it cool if i paste the output, only like 2 lines
[04:48] <reiki> dell500, you can paste in pm to me or in #flood ... best not here
[04:48] <erUSUL> Da_SWAT: something usefull in the logs?
[04:49] <a_lacsa> is there a built in firewall for hoary hedgehog?
[04:49] <a_lacsa> if not, which one do you recommend?
[04:49] <ztonzy> I want 'glut.h'  in '/usr/X11R6/include/GL'  what library do I need ?
[04:49] <carbo> is there any way to use my laptop's infrared port? specifically with nokia mobile phones?
[04:49] <mjr> there is a built in firewall in linux, but you don't really need one if you don't start any services
[04:50] <Da_SWAT> erUSUL, what logs are usefull? (I'm still a noob when it comes to tracking errors)
[04:50] <mjr> you may want to use a tool like firestarter for firewall configuration
[04:50] <eamonn> a_lacsa: Firestarter is the one I use. There isn't a built-in firewall in Ubuntu because there are no outward facing services enabled by default.
[04:50] <CarlFK> I just turn off my box.  no intruders that way ;)
[04:50] <Krneki> am
[04:50] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK i got as far as typing dmesg and at the end of the list (it finds the card) it says initialization failed, wlan driver failed, i am out of ideas
[04:51] <Krneki> one wuestion is there possible connect from windows to ubuntu and run desktop in graphic
[04:51] <mjr> Krneki, yes
[04:51] <Krneki> how
[04:51] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - post to the sf.net forum
[04:51] <char1iecha1k> ok
[04:51] <mjr> eg. use the gnome Vino desktop sharing program and get a vnc client for windows
[04:51] <eamonn> Krneki: yes, use vncserver or the built-in remote desktop feature System/Preferences/Remote Desktop.
[04:51] <mjr> there are other options
[04:51] <a_lacsa> Ok thanks for the reply eamonn
[04:51] <char1iecha1k> flaming thing i may just chuck it in the bin
[04:52] <CarlFK> char1iecha1k - but then it has beet you.  you must triumph! ;)
[04:52] <Krneki> am on which port it works
[04:53] <Krneki> is there need to install anytjing else or just type there pass
[04:53] <erUSUL> Da_SWAT: reading your post on forums it seems like mesa overwritte the gl lib of ati during the upgrade
[04:53] <Leshrac> hello, I followed the steps the bot told me to install the ati drivers. but now my kubuntu does not load and shows a black screen. what did I do wrong?
[04:53] <eamonn> Krneki: I use ultraVNC on the Windows side (doing that right now) and vncserver on the Linux side. That way I can use Linux at the same time my children are using it locally. apt-get install vncserver, then ssh to your linux box, run vncserver and then connect to the server that's displayed from your Windows box.
[04:53] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK well for the sake of 15 quid i could get one that actually works, althoughh that seems trickier than i would like
[04:53] <Leshrac> (and how can I solve it)
[04:53] <char1iecha1k> ideally i want one with linux wpa capability
[04:54] <char1iecha1k> if that exists
[04:54] <BlueEagle> where does mplayer find its codecs btw?
[04:54] <Zhukov_> can anyone help me? appearently um unable to install jre1.4
[04:54] <carbo> how can i use my laptop's infrared port?
[04:54] <tucoz> BlueEagle, /usr/lib/win32 for the win32 codecs
[04:54] <Krneki> am how do i run vnc server after i install it
[04:54] <eamonn> Krneki: Sorry, typing too fast. When you run vncserver over ssh, it displays a message saying it has started a new server. It'll look something like "hostname:1". Start UltraVNC on Windows and tell it to connect to hostname:1 or whatever was displayed.
[04:55] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK do you know how to set up a pptp vpn connection?  i have all the right software installed just no idea of what to do now??
[04:55] <Blissex> carbo: depends on how you want to use it and with what. It appears as a serial-like port to the system.
[04:55] <Krneki> ok i installed
[04:55] <Krneki> where do i choose pass?
[04:56] <erUSUL> Da_SWAT: you said that reinstalling ati driveres does not help... i do not how to proceed now.
[04:56] <erUSUL>  Get rid of thr ati drives completly and reconfigure x to use radeon drivers... may help
[04:56] <Krneki> and where do i start vnc
[04:56] <bbzou> can i run ragnarok online in ubuntu
[04:56] <carbo> Blissex, i'm hoping to use it with my nokia mobile phone, or even for data transfer of any kind.. just couldn't find the port anywhere
[04:57] <eamonn> Krneki, on Linux, at the shell prompt.
[04:57] <Krneki> am me working in ssh
[04:57] <carbo> Blissex is there any default file sending app for IR?
[04:57] <help> hi everyone, after i install ubuntu im getting /init:64:syntax error :ox kernel panic-no syncing:attempted to kill init
[04:57] <help> can someone help me
[04:58] <help> please
[04:58] <eamonn> Krneki: yes, at the ssh prompt. To choose your password, type vncpasswd.
[04:58] <help> doesn anyone knows how to fix it ?
[04:58] <help> or what it means
[04:58] <Krneki> am
[04:58] <Krneki> i get this
[04:58] <Blissex> carbo: sending to what?
[04:59] <Krneki> vncpasswd: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:59] <ExitMenu> hello I am currently looking at lots of Linux distros and I was wondering if anyone could tell me what makes Ubuntu special or different from the rest ?
[04:59] <eamonn> help: we need a bit more information.
[04:59] <carbo> Blissex lets say another laptop
[04:59] <SWAT__> erUSUL, sorry, my Ubbie just broke again (for no apparent reason)
[04:59] <Blissex> help: thats very odd, and perhaps the burned CD has errors on it. First thing check the CD with the checksum.
[04:59] <help> eamonn, i get this message a few second after grub
[05:00] <SWAT__> erUSUL, I just switched kernels (just for the fun of it)
[05:00] <eamonn> Krneki: oh, dear. How did you install vncserver? Best try System/Preferences/Remote Desktop first and see if that works, at least.
[05:00] <Blissex> carbo: that involves a fait bit of effort, like setting up PPP on both laptops... If you are not particularly experienced it may be a bit too hard.
[05:00] <reiki> re: firefox... user is getting a "profile in use" error when we can't see any instances of firefox running. How do you kill all running firefox processes?
[05:00] <help> so would i have to reinstall the whole thing again :(
[05:00] <SWAT__> erUSUL, but what logs are usefull to investigate? (The last message I saw from you was around 16.51, so about 10 minutes ago)
[05:00] <Krneki> am i think i mess up
[05:00] <eamonn> help: What are you running? Hoary? Did you install a new kernel?
[05:00] <help> yes
[05:00] <help> no
[05:00] <Krneki> i install one from net before and didn't wrok
[05:01] <Krneki> work
[05:01] <help> every as i came
[05:01] <Krneki> how to uninstalll
[05:01] <help> but i have an ati card
[05:01] <eamonn> help: Try hitting escape when the grub message appears and start in single-user or safe mode. Or try the previous version of the kernel.
[05:01] <help> i cant find no where exactly what the message means
[05:01] <dell500> reiki, it's working now
[05:01] <eamonn> Krneki: apt-get remove vncserver
[05:02] <Blissex> carbo: however you can start here: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Infrared-HOWTO.html
[05:02] <help> ok
[05:02] <SWAT__> what does a "apt-get clean install" do ?????
[05:02] <reiki> dell500,  great!  not sure why we had to shut down to clear that... never seen that in ubuntu yet
[05:02] <carbo> Blissex okay, i'll look into it. thanks
[05:02] <help> and if it does start, what should i look for eamonn?
[05:02] <help> thank you for your help
[05:02] <Blissex> carbo: and here for the details on setting up networking: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/IrDA/i
[05:02] <Blissex> carbo: and here for the details on setting up networking: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/IrDA/
[05:02] <markuman> are here friends of XFCE and installing ubuntu without gnome -- only XFCE?
[05:03] <dell500> reiki, oh well, it worked, so that's all that matters :)
[05:03] <reiki> dell500, glad to help... gotta go do laundry now.. have fun!
[05:03] <Blissex> carbo: more precisely here: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/IrDA/IrNET.html
[05:04] <Zhukov_> can anyone explain me how can i set the java home folder?
[05:04] <dell500> reiki, peace out, i gotta go try and get my woman back
[05:04] <louis_> hi
[05:04] <CyberDoo> I've just installed ubuntu and when using my local webserver seem to have problems loading php files. My browser wants to save them as files.
[05:04] <carbo> Blissex whoa, okay... if i'm feeling good tomorrow i may attempt it. thanks for the links
[05:04] <markuman> here #xubuntu  :-D
[05:04] <Krneki> am i have someking shortcut when i type vncviewer
[05:04] <Krneki> is that possible to remove
[05:04] <Krneki> and how
[05:04] <bob2> CyberDoo: sudo aptitude install libapache2-mod-php4 apache2
[05:04] <CyberDoo> Bob2 Thanks.....
[05:04] <char1iecha1k> CarlFK thanks for your help
[05:05] <Krneki> actually when i type vncserver
[05:05] <SWAT__> can anyone help me, before my install hangs again? For info please see |--->  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66749
[05:06] <bob2> SWAT__: that would be your fault
[05:06] <alienacion> hi all
[05:06] <bob2> SWAT__: for using broken packages you made from rpms
[05:06] <Blissex> carbo: note that IrDA and IrNET are almost surely part of your distribution, so you just need to configure it.
[05:06] <SWAT__> bob2, I didn't make the packages
[05:07] <SWAT__> bob2, I only use the 'standard' from the repository
[05:07] <bob2> SWAT__: no, you're not
[05:07] <qt2> brb. o>
[05:07] <bob2> SWAT__: "using the ATI drivers from the ATI site"
[05:07] <CyberDoo> Bob2: Both packages are already installed.
[05:07] <SWAT__> bob2, okay. but I didn't make packages from it. I compiled it.
[05:07] <Krneki> am how to remove commands
[05:08] <Leshrac> so I shouldn't dowload the ati drivers from the ati website? bob2?
[05:08] <Krneki> i install something strange
[05:08] <bob2> SWAT__: wel, whatever you say, but there's no fglrx-6-8-0 package in ubuntu
[05:08] <bob2> Leshrac: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:08] <SWAT__> bob2, and it worked fine. Up until this morning (I was gone for the weekend)
[05:08] <Krneki> i want that command is removed
[05:08] <bob2> CyberDoo: worked for me; have you ever touched your apache or php config manually?
[05:08] <CyberDoo> Krneki: What command?
[05:08] <Krneki> when i type vnserver i get vncserver
[05:09] <Krneki> i get
[05:09] <SWAT__> bob2, then what would you recommend me to do?
[05:09] <CyberDoo> Bob2: No, but I did install some packages that may have.
[05:09] <Krneki> that there is no file /usr/local/bin/vncserver
[05:09] <bob2> SWAT__: remove that package
[05:09] <erUSUL> SWAT__: the ati drivers where build for the old kerenel when you updated yours you brake things up
[05:09] <an_ubuntu> how can i setup my microphone? it isn't working... tried switching the settings in the mixer, but sitll doesn't work
[05:09] <Zhukov_> Seveas, r u there?
[05:09] <bob2> SWAT__: then follow wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:10] <BuffysFluffyFerr> shit
[05:10] <BuffysFluffyFerr> here is alot of people
[05:10] <BuffysFluffyFerr> hey all
[05:10] <PShivers> just got a brief question
[05:10] <BuffysFluffyFerr> ?
[05:10] <BuffysFluffyFerr> for me?
[05:10] <PShivers> do I have to formatt a disk to install Ubuntu
[05:10] <PShivers> for anyone
[05:10] <bob2> PShivers: no
[05:10] <BuffysFluffyFerr> aaah ok
[05:10] <BuffysFluffyFerr> sorry dude
[05:10] <BuffysFluffyFerr> cant help you threre
[05:10] <SWAT__> erUSUL, bob2. Okay I'll try removing the package and using the wiki. The part I don't understand is why my iinstall had so many problems with the xlibmesa-gl package (broken pipe, return error code 1)
[05:11] <Leshrac> bob2, I already followed that how-to, and my so wouldn't load, I had to overwrite it with a backup.
[05:11] <PShivers> so when I get to the partition part I just skip it?
[05:11] <bob2> SWAT__: er, read the error, it explains exactly what the problem is
[05:11] <bob2> PShivers: no, you need to make a partition to put ubuntu on, but that doesn't mean having to nuke a whole disk
[05:11] <bob2> Leshrac: your "so"
[05:11] <bob2> ?
[05:11] <SWAT__> erUSUL, bob2. And before my install freezes again, I would like to thank you guys for your help and time. :-)
[05:11] <PShivers> ok
[05:11] <PShivers> cheers
[05:11] <bob2> SWAT__: "trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2', which is also in package fglrx-6-8-0"
[05:11] <CyberDoo> Krneki: sudo apt-get remove vncserver
[05:11] <axel__> after doing a dist-upgrade from hoary, Xorg errors out saying it cant find font 'fixed'... i have xfs running and cant find where the snafu might be... is this a known issue?
[05:11] <Leshrac> bob2 when loading X it only showed a black screen
[05:12] <Krneki> am there is no more vncserver
[05:12] <bob2> XFS is pretty much useless in the moderm world
[05:12] <Krneki> i install before that one vncserver
[05:12] <bob2> unless you're using lots of old apps on a network
[05:12] <Krneki> but i delete it by rm
[05:12] <Krneki> :D
[05:12] <axel__> bob2: i tried it just to see if that would fix the problem
[05:12] <bob2> that's a pretty terrible solution
[05:12] <CyberDoo> Krneki: Not the best way to do it, but it could work. Then what is your problem?
[05:12] <xukun> why cant I apt-get install msttcorefonts?
[05:12] <bob2> xukun: because you didn't enable the multiverse repository in your apt config; /msg ubotu repositories
[05:13] <Krneki> when i install vncserver by apt-get
[05:13] <qt2> ...why are certain programs starting up automatically when i log into my ubuntu session?
[05:13] <Krneki> when i run vncserver
[05:13] <Krneki> doesn't found anything
[05:13] <bob2> qt2: system -> preferences -> session
[05:13] <Krneki> so any idea how to remove this commands
[05:14] <eamonn> Krneki, sorry, i don't know what to do when you've deleted something by rm... Might be better to try writing up the whole situation and sending it the ubuntu-users list or on the forums. It's hard to diagnose what's going on in a crowded IRC channel.
[05:14] <CyberDoo> Krneki: Most likely because part of your system is telling it that it is installed while the files that it is looking for do not exist due to your rm.
[05:14] <bob2> CyberDoo: is the php4 module loaded?
[05:14] <Drak> hi all
[05:14] <Krneki> yep cyberdoo has right
[05:14] <Krneki> can i solve this problem
[05:14] <bob2> CyberDoo: (ie read /var/log/apache2/error.log)
[05:14] <axel__> anyone know where i should investigate this 'fixed' font thing?
[05:15] <alienacion> when i ping another pc in my network 58% of packet are lost
[05:15] <CyberDoo> Bob2: Its enabled in the apache2.conf file, but I'm not quite sure how to verify it.
[05:15] <Drak> claro si eso digo yo,pero como no te entiendo mu bn
[05:15] <bob2> CyberDoo: as above
[05:15] <CyberDoo> <checks the logs
[05:15] <bulletino> hi @ all
[05:15] <bob2> Drak: pretty clearly not a spanish-speaking channel
[05:15] <an_ubuntu> any thoughts or  documentation about microphont not working
[05:15] <bob2> axel__: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[05:15] <bob2> perhaps your x config is temporarily screwed
[05:15] <bob2> I assume you just went to breezy
[05:16] <Drak> eing?
[05:16] <eamonn> an_ubuntu, what do you have System/Preferences/Multimedia Systems Selector set to?
[05:16] <eamonn> an_ubuntu, try esd.
[05:16] <an_ubuntu> default sink - esd
[05:17] <alienacion> where can i speack in italian
[05:17] <an_ubuntu> default source - oss
[05:17] <CyberDoo> Bob2: It appears to have loaded it. I'll have to continue after a little while.
[05:18] <bob2> CyberDoo: hm, are you using virtual hosts?
[05:18] <axel__> bob2: i did that already
[05:19] <axel__> bob2: no luck
[05:19] <CyberDoo> bob2:No.
[05:19] <bob2> axel__: do you have x-window-system-core installed?
[05:19] <bob2> CyberDoo: odd
[05:19] <bob2> CyberDoo: do you have a /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf file?
[05:19] <bob2> CyberDoo: is it symlinked into ...modes-enabled/?
[05:19] <kuru> well.. I am extremely unhappy w/ breezy
[05:19] <kuru> but..
[05:19] <axel__> bob2: yup
[05:20] <kuru> hoary seems to be as stable as it claims to be
[05:20] <bob2> CyberDoo: and doe it contain ''AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3?
[05:20] <bob2> kuru: please do file bugs about problems you encounter
[05:20] <kuru> and I just compiled the hplip stuff from source and installed it manually
[05:20] <kuru> bob2, the forums seem to be full of it
[05:20] <bob2> kuru: and nobodyd but forum users read the forums
[05:20] <bob2> so if they dont' actually file bugs, thigns will not be fixed
[05:20] <CyberDoo> bob2: Ah, no .phtml.....
[05:21] <eamonn> an_ubuntu, try opening the volume control (right click on the little speaker on the top right panel) and make sure nothing is muted. Unmute everything.
[05:21] <bob2> CyberDoo: .phtml isn't too big a deal
[05:21] <bob2> unless your file is .phtml
[05:21] <Zhukov_> is there any ubunut.tower-net.de admin in here?
[05:22] <CyberDoo> bob2: It isn't. Bob2. I need to leave. I'll come back. Thanks again....
[05:22] <axel__> bob2: im not much into how X works, but i can tell you that i can connect to the host via XDMCP through another computer and it works, it's just local X sessions that error out
[05:23] <cmihai> Does anyone remember the Ubuntu logo parody, of 3 human asses instead of the people holding hands? I am unable to find it on images.google.com with "ubuntu ass"...
[05:23] <xukun> bob2, thanks a lot
[05:23] <an_ubuntu> eamonn, i've tried mute/unmuting the volume control setings, still nothing...
[05:24] <fadumpt> an_ubuntu, no sound?
[05:24] <fadumpt> have you checked your PCM level?
[05:24] <an_ubuntu> no recording, sound is ok
[05:24] <fadumpt> oh okay :) sorry
[05:25] <Krneki> am where is bash dir
[05:26] <thoreauputic> Krneki:  `which bash`  ---> /bin/bash
[05:26] <Krneki> aha
[05:26] <Krneki> ntc
[05:26] <Krneki> tnx
[05:26] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:26] <bz0b> !madwifi
[05:26] <ubotu> I don't know, bz0b
[05:27] <Krneki> am
[05:27] <bz0b> does anyone know the link to the howtomadwifi on the ubuntu forums
[05:27] <Krneki> command for search in terminal
[05:27] <Krneki> i want to search on whole disk
[05:27] <thoreauputic> !wireless
[05:27] <ubotu> somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:27] <Hikaru79> Krneki, do a 'sudo updatedb' and then you can use locate.
[05:27] <bob2> you rarely need a "madwifi howto"
[05:28] <bob2> on breezy you shouldn't need it at all
[05:28] <NoX_H> any1 know a lot about linux? i need some help
[05:28] <xukun> bob2, what do I need to in my sources.list so I can sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[05:28] <xukun> ?
[05:28] <slack7384> NoX_H - what help you need?
[05:28] <bz0b> bob2, i know
[05:28] <NoX_H> i cant log into my root account..
[05:28] <fadumpt> nox
[05:28] <fadumpt> sudo passwd
[05:28] <xukun> bob2, I,m using Breezy
[05:28] <bz0b> bob2, but i want to update to the newest screenshot
[05:28] <NoX_H> i cant log into my root account..
[05:29] <NoX_H> thats the prob..
[05:29] <Krneki> anyone know
[05:29] <kemik> NoX_H:  root is disabled
[05:29] <Krneki> how could i fix this
[05:29] <Krneki> root@StarGate:/bin# vncserver
[05:29] <Krneki> bash: /usr/local/bin/vncserver: No such file or directory
[05:29] <kemik> !root
[05:29] <fadumpt> NoX_H, sudo passwd
[05:29] <ubotu> somebody said root was disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:29] <fadumpt> in the terminal as a normal user
[05:29] <NoX_H> sudo?
[05:29] <fadumpt> yeah
[05:29] <bz0b> snapshot*
[05:29] <NoX_H> is that the pass?
[05:29] <kemik> NoX_H:  follow the link and read about it
[05:29] <fadumpt> no
[05:29] <Krneki> i want that command won't work anymore
[05:29] <fadumpt> that's the command
[05:29] <NoX_H> ok
[05:29] <slack7384> NoX_H - you can use sudo su and use your user password
[05:29] <fadumpt> to allow you to change your password
[05:29] <NoX_H> cheers
[05:29] <NoX_H> ill try that
[05:29] <bob2> xukun: wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:29] <NoX_H> c ya later guys!
[05:30] <kemik> NoX_H:  i strongly recommend you to read the wiki
[05:30] <kemik> sigh
[05:30] <Krneki> any idea
[05:30] <bob2> Krneki: hash -r
[05:30] <Krneki> thanks
[05:30] <bob2> tho I'm npt sure why you ever installed vncviewer fro msource to begin with
[05:30] <Krneki> THANKS
[05:30] <Krneki> D:
[05:30] <Krneki> :D
[05:30] <bob2> bz0b: screenshot?
[05:30] <fadumpt> oh I'm sorry, supposed to link him to the manual :-/
[05:31] <NoX_H> Damn.. Hit the wrong button.. can i ge the url again?
[05:31] <kemik> !tell NoX_H about root
[05:31] <bob2> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:31] <NoX_H> cheers
[05:31] <Madangren> Dear lord, Ubuntu confuses me
[05:31] <NoX_H> wrote it down now ;-)
[05:31] <NoX_H> ok
[05:31] <NoX_H> i find it easier that Red Hat
[05:32] <daan> does anyone know when ubuntu Breezy Badger is coming?
[05:32] <Madangren> I can't even friggin' install anything >_<
[05:32] <daan> me needer
[05:32] <NoX_H> next month
[05:32] <Hikaru79> Madangren, what are you trying to install?
[05:32] <daan> i can't install numlockx
[05:32] <Hikaru79> daan, October 13th
[05:32] <Madangren> Java Runtime Enviroment
[05:32] <daan> k thx m8
[05:32] <NoX_H> CVS wineX
[05:32] <fadumpt> i have Breezy Badger
[05:32] <sauli_> why ubuntu doesnt play mp3 files?
[05:32] <Hikaru79> Madangren, here, let me help ya
[05:32] <thoreauputic> !java
[05:32] <kemik> !tell Madangren about java
[05:32] <ubotu> java is, like, totally, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:32] <fadumpt> it's supposed to be out early october
[05:32] <Krneki> am which port has to be open for vnc
[05:32] <NoX_H> and later on Steam CSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS1.6
[05:32] <fadumpt> it's a preview release right now
[05:32] <NoX_H> woops.. CS1.6*
[05:32] <fadumpt> really nice too
[05:33] <Hikaru79> Madangren, add this to your sources.list: deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java
[05:33] <kemik> Krneki:  depends on where your vncserver is listening ,)
[05:33] <Hikaru79> Then do sudo apt-get update
[05:33] <thoreauputic> !tell sauli_ about mp3
[05:33] <bob2> Java's gone from hoary-extras
[05:33] <Krneki> how to i get know which is it
[05:33] <Hikaru79> Then do sudo apt-get install j2sdk1.5-sun
[05:33] <bob2> since they were breaking the law by distributing it
[05:33] <Hikaru79> And voila. That's it.
[05:33] <NoX_H> mp3 just get XMMS
[05:33] <NoX_H> in synaptic
[05:34] <sauli_> thoreauputic: thank you
[05:34] <Kyral> Time to learn EMACS
[05:34] <Kyral> why doesn't Ubuntu have it preinstalled anyway?
[05:34] <bob2> Kyral: don't forget to go through the tutorial
[05:34] <Micksa> ew
[05:34] <bob2> Kyral: it used to
[05:34] <Micksa> haha
[05:34] <NoX_H> be back later if all fails.
[05:34] <Micksa> it did?
[05:34] <Krneki> and which program should i use for conecting to ubuntu VNC
[05:34] <NoX_H> see ya later!
[05:34] <Madangren> Allright, I'll try this out
[05:34] <Kyral> wow..
[05:35] <Kyral> the emacs-extras package
[05:35] <Madangren> Kind of my first Linux OS also so blargh
[05:35] <Kyral> should i just enable everything?
[05:35] <bob2> in warty
[05:35] <NoX_H> RootSudo page wont load
[05:35] <kemik> emacs :/
[05:35] <bob2> NoX_H: try again
[05:36] <Kyral> What is the package to colorize syntax in emacs?
[05:36] <kemik> Kyral:  a better option is to learn vi/vim ;) hihi
[05:36] <daan> in my bios i enabled auto numlock but for some strange reason gnome puts it always off on startup by default, is there any way ubuntu can turn it automatic on on startup?????
[05:36] <NoX_H> ok
[05:36] <thoreauputic> !start an editor war
[05:36] <ubotu> vim is better than emacs
[05:36] <bob2> Kyral: it's part of emacs
[05:36] <Kyral> kemik, I don't indend to start the editor war
[05:36] <Kyral> bob2, how do I activate it?
[05:36] <bob2> Kyral: M-x font-lock-mode
[05:36] <kemik> O_o
[05:36] <bob2> daan: no need for more than one question mark
[05:36] <bob2> daan: did you investigate the gnome preferences?
[05:37] <daan> yes
[05:37] <elvirolo> hi
[05:37] <daan> nothing i can find
[05:37] <NoX_H> still not loading
[05:37] <Micksa> bob2: you hear anything about the latest breezy X screwing up?
[05:37] <Micksa> my region copies are arse slow
[05:37] <bob2> Micksa: binary drivers appear to be broken
[05:37] <Kyral> One of my higher level programmer friends (and also my professor) suggested I learn emacs
[05:37] <Micksa> it's an ATI card
[05:37] <Micksa> okay
[05:37] <Kyral> and I have seen how uber someone can be using it
[05:37] <bob2> it will take a little while to become comforatble with emacs
[05:37] <kemik> well.. the same goes for VIM imo
[05:38] <Kyral> We commented the other day that if you just stuck a bootloader on emacs, you'd have an OS :D
[05:38] <bob2> it's not very like normal windows-style editors
[05:38] <elvirolo> every time i start ubuntu i have to manually type "sudo ifdown ra0 && sudo ifup ra0" to activate my wifi card ... why can't it do it by itself?
[05:38] <bob2> Kyral: you can boot into emacs
[05:38] <Kyral> bob2, I've been using GEdit/Anjuta for a while
[05:38] <bob2> elvirolo: perhaps the module is loading too late
[05:38] <Kyral> 6+ months Windows Free
[05:38] <kemik> Kyral:  try out Eclipse perhaps
[05:39] <elvirolo> bob2: could be yeah
[05:39] <Kyral> kemik, icky no Java runtime!
[05:39] <kemik> Kyral:  has CDT and JDT and virtually a plugin for most languages
[05:39] <Madangren> lol same problem here Kyral
[05:39] <Madangren> Trying the link ubotu gave me
[05:39] <Kyral> Java Runtime = BAD!
[05:39] <kemik> well, it's a nice IDE... (even tho i code most stuff in gvim anyway hehe, im a hypocrite :) )
[05:39] <Da_SWAT> bob2, still there? I tried to install the binary drivers (taht worked)
[05:39] <Madangren> Is there an alternative?
[05:39] <elvirolo> bob2: should i fill in a bug report ?
[05:39] <Kyral> I have the memory, but man alive
[05:39] <bob2> Da_SWAT: right
[05:39] <bob2> elvirolo: are the drivers for whatever card you have in ubuntu?
[05:39] <Kyral> Actually has anyone heard that there is a way to compile Java so you don't need the Runtime?
[05:40] <Da_SWAT> bob2, yet now I see what's been driving my computer nuts.  "Scheduling while atomic: gam_server/0xffffffff/8451" "Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler"
[05:40] <bob2> Da_SWAT: that means your kernel is exploding
[05:40] <elvirolo> bob2: yeah, it's the ra2500 module i think
[05:40] <cantona> where is the next release goal notes?
[05:40] <bob2> Da_SWAT: you're using the default ubuntu kernel?
[05:40] <kemik> Kyral:  that would sort of defeat the purpose of java i guess
[05:40] <bob2> elvirolo: not really an ubuntu bug, sadly
[05:40] <kemik> Kyral:  compiling to machinecode i mean
[05:40] <Da_SWAT> bob2, and when I do a fglrxinfo (I get mesa3d info....) Dual screen still not working properly though
[05:40] <Da_SWAT> bob2, yes default kernel
[05:40] <Kyral> kemik, I don't know the purpose of Java
[05:41] <bob2> Da_SWAT: file a bug on bugzilla.ubuntu.com. the 'linux' product.
[05:41] <elvirolo> bob2: oh, what can i do then ?
[05:41] <Kyral> to me all languages are just different ways to talk the computer and do the same thing
[05:41] <bob2> Kyral: the GNU java stuff can compile to machine code, yes
[05:41] <bob2> elvirolo: how are you loading the modules?
[05:41] <Da_SWAT> bob2, 2.6.11 k7 kernel
[05:41] <bob2> Da_SWAT: wtf
[05:41] <kemik> Kyral:  platform independence
[05:41] <elvirolo> bob2:  they are loaded at startup, presumably
[05:41] <bob2> Da_SWAT: that is not an ubuntu kernel
[05:42] <Lord_nikon> oy all
[05:42] <bob2> elvirolo: you're not doing anything to have it loaded?
[05:42] <Kyral> kemik, they should give the option to use it
[05:42] <Kyral> 'cause Azureus would ROCK if it didn't have the memory footprint of the Runtime
[05:42] <elvirolo> bob2: no, the card was detected by network-admin anyway
[05:42] <reiki> what else is available for image creation/manipulation?  Or is The Gimp pretty much the best thing available?
[05:42] <Krneki> am how do i know on which port is my VNC listening
[05:42] <Kyral> Krneki, I think its 5900 by default
[05:42] <Da_SWAT> bob2, and the 2.6.10 ? (I tried that a few minutes ago)
[05:43] <elvirolo> reiki: krita?
[05:43] <Kyral> reiki, the GIMP owns all :D
[05:43] <bob2> Da_SWAT: if yo ucan reproduce it with 2.6.10, file a bug
[05:43] <Lord_nikon> riiiiiiiiiiiiiight
[05:43] <bob2> Da_SWAT: 2.6.11 was never a usefu lkernel in ubuntu
[05:43] <reiki> elvirolo, I'll look at that... thanks
[05:43] <Krneki> why then ultravnc doesn't open
[05:43] <Da_SWAT> bob2, I got the kernel panic @ 2.6.10 @ i686. OK.... I'll try.
[05:43] <Da_SWAT> thnx
[05:43] <NoX_H> Cant get onto net in firefox now..?!
[05:43] <elvirolo> reiki: it's part of koffice (KDE) though
[05:43] <reiki> Kyral: bit of a learning curve, but I am "grokking the gimp" .... starting to anyways.. :)
[05:43] <Kyral> Krneki, are you using the GNOME VNC Server?
[05:44] <creart> hi all, do i use the package manager to install Gnome 2.12 ??
[05:44] <Krneki> i use apt-get install vncserver
[05:44] <lonewolff> hmm, does anyone know how to get DRI working on an iMac with xorg? (reducing the colors to 16 causes it to crash X, reducing to 15 works but no DRI)
[05:44] <Kyral> creart, when you upgrade to Breezy it will come
[05:44] <Kyral> don't ask about Backporting it to Hoary 'cause it won't be
[05:44] <Krneki> is this enough or not
[05:44] <elvirolo> DRI doesn't work here either
[05:44] <Kyral> Krneki, are you using GNOME?
[05:44] <bob2> creart: are you using breezy?
[05:45] <Lord_nikon> know any good p2p's lads
[05:45] <Krneki> am why is GNOME -- desktop?
[05:45] <NoX_H> YAY GOT NET!!
[05:45] <bob2> lonewolff: it doesn't work automatically?
[05:45] <creart> sry... i just started using linux a few hours ago... what exactly is Breezy?
[05:45] <elvirolo> on breezy, i get only 200 FPS w/ glxgears whereas i used to get ~1500
[05:45] <lonewolff> bob2: it should work if the colors are set to 16 or less but it doesnt seem to
[05:45] <Lord_nikon> a newer
[05:45] <Kyral> Krneki, then go to System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[05:45] <bob2> creart: the next version of ubuntu
[05:45] <Krneki> yes i use
[05:45] <Lord_nikon> ubuntu
[05:45] <bob2> lonewolff: then file a bug
[05:45] <lonewolff> (at least that was the case with xfree86)
[05:45] <Krneki> and what there
[05:45] <bob2> elvirolo: glxgears is not a useful benchmark of anything
[05:45] <creart> ahhh... where can i find it?
[05:46] <bob2> creart: if you're using hoary, you have 2.10
[05:46] <elvirolo> bob2: it still make a huge difference
[05:46] <bob2> creart: if you're a new user, it's best to wait 3 weeks until it releases
[05:46] <bob2> elvirolo: if it's slower with the same config, file a bug
[05:46] <Kyral> Krneki, select the options to let people view and control your desktop
[05:46] <elvirolo> bob2:  i used to be able to play arkhart, and now i only get like 5 FPS
[05:46] <Kyral> and SET A PASSWORD ON IT
[05:46] <creart> k... ill do that.
[05:46] <Krneki> yes i do that
[05:46] <creart> thx
[05:46] <Krneki> and i set pass
[05:47] <elvirolo> bob2: what info should i join with the bug report ?
[05:47] <mik3> anyone use powwow here?
[05:47] <Kyral> then go to your remote machine (Linux is best)
[05:47] <mcrichman> I have a samsung ML-1210 Printer that is being shown as paused and when i try and unpause it the app crashes
[05:47] <Kyral> and open a terminal, type "vncviewer --fullscreen <ip address of your computer>"
[05:47] <mcrichman> does anyone have som insight on this
[05:47] <Krneki> am does vnc must be run by root or my user
[05:47] <mik3> how do i turn my keyboard into a vt100 keypad
[05:47] <Krneki> or by user
[05:47] <bob2> elvirolo: lspci, dmesg, X config, X log
[05:48] <Kyral> as soon as you enable that option GNOME fires up the vino-server
[05:48] <bob2> mik3: what is a "vt100 keypad"?
[05:48] <Kyral> so its running as you
[05:48] <Sgep> Why are so many packages in Debian but not Unbuntu Universe?
[05:48] <elvirolo> bob2: ok
[05:48] <Kyral> that reminds me
[05:48] <thoreauputic> Sgep: there are thousands of packages in universe...
[05:48] <Kyral> Is your FreeNX Repo up yet?
[05:48] <mik3> bob2 : I don't know myself, but powwow is requiring it for some keybinding they are doing
[05:49] <thoreauputic> Sgep: you might want to enable multiverse as well
[05:49] <NiLz> how come lock screen isn't working in gnome? :(
[05:49] <Sgep> mypasswordsafe isn't even in multiverse, it seems
[05:49] <Sgep> Not universe, not main, not multiverse
[05:49] <bob2> NiLz: is xscreensaver running?
[05:49] <Sgep> Yet it's in Debian main: http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/mypasswordsafe
[05:49] <bob2> Sgep: that's one package
[05:49] <NiLz> bob2: nope
[05:50] <bob2> NiLz: then run it...
[05:50] <mcrichman> i also get a failed to initialize hal error right after the user logs in
[05:50] <bob2> mcrichman: does it affect other users?
[05:50] <bob2> Sgep: also, it's in breezy/universe
[05:50] <Sgep> There isn't a script that tries to bring Debian packages into ubuntu universe and tests them?
[05:51] <bob2> Sgep: sure there is
[05:51] <mcrichman> other that the 1 user
[05:51] <mcrichman> you mean
[05:51] <bob2> mcrichman: yes...
[05:51] <mcrichman> haven't tried
[05:51] <mcrichman> brb
[05:52] <Furio_G> hey folks, Today I installed Ubuntu but I have two problems. 1.)Skype can send messages to people(i get a cannot send error in skype). 2.)My mp3 players crash when i try to play music(I have to kill them). I've installed teh codecs. Any ideas?
[05:52] <Sgep> I even need to wait for a new release for Universe to be updated?
[05:52] <Krneki> hay i have problem when i run vnc by normal user xauth: error in locking authority file /home/dean/.Xauthority
[05:52] <bob2> Sgep: universe releases with main, of course
[05:52] <bob2> Furio_G: "mp3 players" = ?
[05:52] <Sgep> Any dangers in going to breezy early?
[05:52] <bob2> Sgep: do yo ucare about binary X drivers?
[05:52] <Sgep> Hmm?
[05:52] <DerTeufel> hi, I added the backport sources but can't find w32codes ... even when looking with a webbrowser they are not in hoary-extras/restricted
[05:52] <Krneki> what should i do
[05:53] <DerTeufel> where can I find the codecs?
[05:53] <bob2> DerTeufel: w32codecs is not in backports
[05:53] <bob2> nor any other "legitimate" repository
[05:53] <Furio_G> bob2: xmms, beep-media-player
[05:53] <bob2> since no one has permission to distribute it
[05:53] <bob2> Furio_G: they all crash?
[05:53] <bob2> Furio_G: or do you mean "hang"?
[05:53] <Furio_G> bob2: hang sorry :)
[05:53] <bob2> 16:17:14           bob2 | mlambie: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[05:54] <bob2> DerTeufel: ^
[05:54] <bob2> Furio_G: configure them to use esound for output
[05:54] <DerTeufel> ok on ubuntuusers.de it says it is in the backports ... thanks for the link I will pass it on :)
[05:54] <bob2> DerTeufel: it used to be, it was removed from hoary-extras yesterday
[05:54] <Krneki> hay i have problem when i run vnc by normal user xauth: error in locking authority file /home/dean/.Xauthority
[05:54] <bob2> Sgep: building the breezy source package would be simpler
[05:55] <DerTeufel> ahh ok ... so thats why no one knows about this :)
[05:55] <libben> someone should look over hamachi and make it to the repos for ubuntu
[05:55] <Sgep> Hmm?>
[05:55] <Furio_G> bob2: thanks mate, ill be right back
[05:55] <libben> http://www.hamachi.cc/
[05:55] <bob2> libben: if you wnat it in ubuntu, you can package it yourself
[05:55] <Sgep> Is there such a thing as a backport of the newest universe?
[05:56] <bob2> no
[05:56] <bob2> you can build it yourself, tho
[05:56] <mcrichman> bob2 thanks! the printer does resume under a different user profile
[05:56] <Angel-SL> hi. can Windows users connect to a linux print server?
[05:56] <mjr> Angel-SL, you probably want Samba on the server for that, but then, yes
[05:57] <bob2> mcrichman: that's odd
[05:57] <Echelon-H> is there any euivelant for band in a box for linux?
[05:57] <libben> bob2: i said in the repos. not that it would ship with it
[05:57] <mjr> some windows versions might support IPP (which CUPS uses), but I wouldn't know about that
[05:57] <alienacion> hi
[05:57] <bob2> libben: that seems unrelated to you packaging it
[05:57] <alienacion> i've got 2 pc
[05:57] <Sgep> I compiled some programs on my own. If/when they appear in Ubuntu Universe, what will happen?
[05:57] <bob2> Sgep: nothing
[05:57] <alienacion> the first is connected to network
[05:58] <alienacion> the second is connected to first
[05:58] <Hikaru79> If you're not going to be using any 3d acceleration, are there any benefits to using 'nvidia' instead of 'nv'?
[05:58] <Sgep> (Unrelated) Will the PyKDE dependencies issues be fixed in breezy?
[05:58] <bob2> Sgep: have you reported the issue to the BTS?
[05:58] <bob2> Hikaru79: it can accelerate the Render X extension, too
[05:58] <Sgep> It already has been, by someone else
[05:58] <alienacion> i to connect the first at internet
[05:58] <Madangren> I added the hoary-extras to my repositories, and I still don't see sun-j2re1.5
[05:58] <bob2> Madangren: yes, it's gone
[05:58] <Sgep> hoary-extras?
[05:58] <Madangren> Doh >_<
[05:59] <bob2> they had no permission to distribute that either
[05:59] <Echelon-H> why woun't nautilus work at startup under XFCE even if i put it in .xinitrc
[05:59] <alienacion> i'm trying with sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
[05:59] <bob2> alienacion: installing "ipmasq" is probably simpler
[05:59] <Hikaru79> bob2, render x extension?
[05:59] <alienacion> and with /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -j ACCEPT  ---> questo sul server
[05:59] <alienacion> on the server
[06:00] <ugo> hi guys
[06:00] <alienacion> but the client can't ping www.google.it
[06:00] <libben> by the way. ive installed quake3 with sudo ./linuxblablapointrelease.run and i let it install to default path /usr/local/games/quake3 after it all was done. i mounted my ntfs disk where i have quake3 installed also on. and copied my baseq3 to /usr/local/games/quake3/baseq3 and did the same with my mods. lay them in /quake3 folder in /usr/local/games.
[06:00] <libben> my problem is that when i made a change for being able to get to console ingame... it wont take it
[06:00] <ugo> has anyone been able to install enlightenment e17 on hoary?
[06:00] <jedi> how do i connect my mailman stuff to apache?
[06:00] <alienacion> i've got try on the client route add default gw 10.0.0.1(ip of server)
[06:00] <alienacion> but don't work
[06:00] <bob2> ugo: it's easy to install from cvs if yo ufollow the instructions
[06:01] <bob2> jedi: the mailman package already does that
[06:01] <libben> ive changed the q3config.cfg in /usr/local/games/quake3/q3ut3 and in my arena folder.. and i can still not get a dropdown console
[06:01] <bob2> jedi: ls /usr/lib/cgi-bin/
[06:01] <jedi> aha, thanks bob2
[06:01] <esac_> is it possible to mount a directory/cdrom as a .iso file ? (not the reverse of mounting a .iso file as a cdrom) ?
[06:01] <alienacion> the client can ping the server and can connect to the server
[06:01] <bob2> esac_: that would have nothing to do with mount
[06:02] <bob2> esac_: mkisofs will create an iso image for you
[06:03] <esac_> bob2 : but that will create a new byte for byte file, right ? i have a 16 GB partition and i want to reference it as a .iso, but i dont really want to make a .iso out of it
[06:04] <CyberDoo> bob2: Okay I'm back. So we were talking about my php problem with my apache2 server. php is installed, its enabled, but something isn't quite right because my browser wants to save the file.
[06:04] <fadumpt> do you have your mod_php5 setup in the apache conf?
[06:05] <esac_> CyberDoo: does your httpd.conf file have a mapping for .php files ?
[06:05] <Echelon-H> why woun't nautilus work at startup under XFCE even if i put it in .xinitrc
[06:05] <lonewolff> there is a package to do it for you i think
[06:05] <CyberDoo> esac: No.
[06:05] <bob2> esac_: why would you want to do that?
[06:05] <CyberDoo> esac: My apache2.conf does.
[06:05] <xcyborg_> whom do I need to contact in order to create a ro.archive.ubuntu.com vhost for my mirror ?
[06:05] <lonewolff> libapache2-mod-php4 if you are using php4
[06:05] <esac_> bob2 : qemu
[06:05] <bob2> esac_: that sounds gross
[06:06] <bob2> esac_: why a .iso?
[06:06] <bob2> xcyborg_: wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[06:06] <bam_> does anyone know of a jukebox manager for a zen micro that works?
[06:06] <esac_> bob2 : well doesn't have to be a .iso, just any format i can pass to "-hda filename"
[06:06] <lonewolff> esac_: you can point qemu at /dev/hdc instead of an iso file and it will work
[06:06] <esac_> lonewolff: seriously ? damn
[06:07] <Krneki> why when i log in to ubuntu when i try to write there are diffrent letters
[06:07] <lonewolff> esac_: yes, thats how i install things in qemu
[06:07] <paulproteus> lonewolff: I found installing Windows in qemu much slower from disc rather than from ISO.
[06:07] <Krneki> am i am loging into with vnc
[06:07] <paulproteus> But I guess that's probably just 'cause my CD-ROM sucks.
[06:07] <bob2> Krneki: all these vague unrelated questions are not really helpful
[06:07] <esac_> lonewolff: for cdroms, but does it work for hard drives .. well ill just give it a shot and see
[06:07] <lonewolff> esac_: you should use qemu-img to make hard drive images
[06:07] <Krneki> it is strange why keyboard is mixef
[06:07] <Krneki> mixed
[06:07] <mik3> how do i make my terminal use vt100 for keys
[06:07] <CyberDoo> fadumpt: I have the document handler but the mod isn't enabled in the apache2.conf file.
[06:07] <CarlFK> how do I make my floppy automount?
[06:08] <xcyborg_> bob2: that url doesn't answer my question, my mirror is already listed but ro.archive.ubuntu.com does not point to it
[06:08] <Furio_G> bob2: That package you linked me to is already installed. Should I try another mp3 player or is it something else?
[06:08] <bob2> Furio_G: ?
[06:08] <esac_> lonewolff: i understand that, but i have an os on another partition that i want to access, and i dont see a reason why i cant just boot straight off it .. vmware handles that
[06:08] <lonewolff> esac_: you should be able to
[06:08] <bob2> Furio_G: I told you to make a config change, not to install anything
[06:09] <bob2> xcyborg_: read the whole page, particularily the bottom
[06:09] <lonewolff> esac_: just point -hda at /dev/whatever
[06:09] <thesaltydog> I can't change my current locale setting with dpkg-reconfigure locales..
[06:09] <alienacion> bob2, i can't understand what can i do with ipmasq
[06:09] <bob2> alienacion: great
[06:10] <esac_> lonewolff: I tried that and its say qemu: could not open hard disk image '/dev/hda'  .. tried /dev/hda1 and tried mounting it to /mnt/os first too, doesn't work
[06:10] <xcyborg_> bob2: I read it, and already sent a mail to that address when my mirror was set up (a few months ago), what now ?
[06:10] <bob2> yay, vware oopses breezy kernels
[06:10] <bob2> xcyborg_: wait
[06:10] <bob2> xcyborg_: or email again
[06:10] <bob2> no one here is even close to being able to edit the ubuntu.com zone file
[06:10] <CarlFK> searches for "automount" are comming up pretty empty - is there another term?
[06:10] <bob2> CarlFK: I wouldn't bother
[06:10] <bob2> autofs is nasty
[06:10] <lonewolff> esac_: /dev/hda1 shold work, but I have never tried it
[06:11] <Echelon-H> what is linux equivelant for netstat?
[06:11] <tucats> im trying to increase my framerate by installing the new ati drivers but ati doesn't seem to have the proper ones so I went to the dell website and they have an rpm that is suppose to be for RH7.1 will that work with breezy if i change it to a .deb package?
[06:11] <bob2> Echelon-H: netstat
[06:11] <tucats> anyone know?
[06:11] <bob2> tucats: if it's for rh7.1, I really doubt they're more recent than what is in ubuntu
[06:11] <CarlFK> bob2 - why do you say that?  I used it for CD's and it seemed to work great
[06:12] <Echelon-H> bob2,  im sorry, i meant ipconfig
[06:12] <bob2> CarlFK: it's even sillier to use for cds, g-v-m handles that fine
[06:12] <bob2> Echelon-H: which does what?
[06:12] <tucats> bob2 anyway to tweak the ubuntu driver to get better performance? my tunnels screensaver works at .99fps i need a little better performance
[06:12] <Echelon-H> bob2, just shows me my ip information
[06:12] <CarlFK> bob2 - ok, so forget automount.  what can I do to make floppies more user friendly?
[06:12] <bob2> tucats: that would seem to indicate you didn't install it
[06:12] <bob2> Echelon-H: ip a
[06:12] <bob2> tucats: or set it up corre ctly
[06:12] <bob2> CarlFK: not much
[06:13] <rata> hi, it is true that in the breezy instaltion, it is ask if i want to install a multi-console pc(to use more than one monitor, keyboard and mouse, with indepndient X, all in the samepc) ?
[06:13] <bob2> rata: it will ask about multiseat if you have more than one videocard
[06:13] <tucats> bob2 im using the driver that ubuntu installed out of the box not the one provided by ati or dell
[06:13] <Echelon-H> bob2, ok, thx
[06:13] <CarlFK> bob2 - so back to "what is wrong with autofs?"
[06:13] <wrtpeeps> anyone tell me what the gtk package is called?
[06:13] <Angel-SL> hi.
[06:13] <Angel-SL> again
[06:13] <rata> bob2, cool. And it is semi-easy to configure to use it ?
[06:14] <Echelon-H> anyone here ever used mma?
[06:14] <Angel-SL> is a Laser Printer a LPR or Raw?
[06:14] <Angel-SL> a Samsung ML-`610
[06:14] <Angel-SL> 1610*
[06:14] <bob2> tucats: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:14] <bob2> wrtpeeps: what are you trying to do?
[06:14] <bob2> rata: no idea
[06:14] <wrtpeeps> compile freeciv
[06:14] <bob2> wrtpeeps: freeciv is in ubutu already
[06:15] <rata> bob2, lot of thanks anyway :)
[06:15] <wrtpeeps> freeciv-gtk ?
[06:15] <NoX_Hand> Hello! Is there anyone who has the time or will to guide me through the process of installing wine and getting Steam up and runnning on it? I have ALL files downloaded but do not know how to use them properly. Have spent hours trying.
[06:15] <bob2> wrtpeeps: yes
[06:15] <wrtpeeps> ooo
[06:15] <wrtpeeps> cheers
[06:15] <bob2> NoX_Hand: wine is in ubuntu already
[06:15] <will__> ohhhh upgrading to breezy now.....hope it goes well :)
[06:15] <NoX_Hand> What?!
[06:15] <NoX_Hand> oook?
[06:15] <bob2> I'd be pretty surprised if Free wine can play steam, tho
[06:15] <NoX_Hand> Then i change what i said
[06:16] <wrtpeeps> i have seen steam running on wine
[06:16] <NoX_Hand> Does anyone have the time to show me how to install it?
[06:16] <bob2> NoX_Hand: did you go and find out if wine really runs steam at all?
[06:16] <Angel-SL> hi
[06:16] <NoX_Hand> it does
[06:16] <mik3> is there a wx-config program for ubuntu?
[06:16] <bob2> really? you don't need cedega?
[06:16] <NoX_Hand> but cant figure out how to configure it
[06:16] <Sartas> hey..
[06:16] <bob2> mik3: what are you trying to compile?
[06:16] <Angel-SL> is a laser printer a LPR or RAW
[06:16] <Angel-SL> hello?
[06:16] <NoX_Hand> found i guide on net, but cant figure it out
[06:16] <mik3> bob2: a terminal that does vt100 emulation
[06:16] <bob2> mik3: wow
[06:16] <will__> running steam under Linux is going to cause you SERIOUS performance problems!
[06:16] <bob2> mik3: is it called "xterm"?
[06:17] <mik3> no
[06:17] <NoX_Hand> dont mind
[06:17] <bob2> mik3: what is this broken app you're trying to run?
[06:17] <mik3> i tried xterm for what i'm trying to do and it won't work
[06:17] <NoX_Hand> just want i to run
[06:17] <mik3> bob2: it's not broken, it
[06:17] <Sartas> anyone: i need help. Im installing Hoary i386 on my other comp. and when i get making the user and his password, when i do so, it just return me to "enter full name" and it doesnt tell me why.
[06:17] <mik3> bob2: it's not broken, it's powwow, a mud client, and i'm trying to get pre-bound keys to work that apparently only run on a vt100 terminal
[06:17] <mik3> because i don't know how to remove the bindings
[06:17] <user_> gud day everyone
[06:18] <NoX_Hand> Can any1 tell me how to get it running?
[06:18] <Sartas> and when i restart ubuntu w/o the disc in , it tells me that its a blank password inserted.
[06:18] <need-help> i manage to work my ubuntu
[06:18] <need-help> how will i create a shortcut of a certain file
[06:18] <Sartas> and when i try to change it, i'll just write in a password 2 times, then it asks for my password once again
[06:18] <bob2> mik3: it certainly sounds broken if it doesn't run under xterm
[06:18] <Sartas> and on and on and on
[06:18] <Sartas> i need help
[06:18] <bob2> Sartas: are yo usure the cd burnt correctly?
[06:19] <mik3> it compiles, connects, runs fine, there's nothing broken about it, i don't know how you can come to that conclusion, have you used powwow before?
[06:19] <Sartas> bob2: everything works 'cept that. and the keyboard map for swedish.
[06:19] <Sartas> should i reburn it?
[06:19] <b0ng`> bob2, is it possible to create a shortcut and have a paremeters?
[06:19] <bob2> Sartas: time to check it
[06:20] <bob2> b0ng`: define shortcut
[06:20] <NoX_Hand> Can ANYONE guide me through getting Steam running on Ubuntu?
[06:20] <bob2> mik3: no, but terminal apps that don't work under xterm are almost always broken
[06:20] <Sartas> bob2: what do you mean?
[06:20] <bob2> NoX_Hand: stop being anoying; you asked once, that is plenty
[06:20] <b0ng`> bob2, its because my shortcut that i created doesnt work
[06:20] <mik3> besides powwow doesn't use vt100 it uses DEC VT102/VT220
[06:20] <mik3> err xterm
[06:20] <bob2> b0ng`: linux doesn't have shortcuts
[06:20] <NoX_Hand> allright then..
[06:20] <draug_n> NoX_Hand: u need Cedega. www.transgaming.org
[06:20] <paulproteus> NoX_Hand: Try #cedega
[06:20] <NoX_Hand> used 6 %%&/ hours trying
[06:21] <NoX_Hand> ok ill try there
[06:21] <Sartas> Bob2: should i d/l it again?
[06:21] <NoX_Hand> thanks
[06:21] <tucats> its suggesting that i use the r128 driver instead of the ati driver in my xorg.conf file, how do i know if i have that driver installed?
[06:21] <bob2> Sartas: no, yo ushould check if it is ok or not
[06:21] <Sartas> bob2: how?
[06:21] <bob2> tucats: r128 is for old nvidia cards
[06:21] <b0ng`> bob2, sorry,, a launcher in my GNOME
[06:21] <bob2> Sartas: boot into expert mode, select "verify cd" or whatever
[06:21] <Sartas> ok.
[06:21] <bob2> b0ng`: then yes, you can give it arguments
[06:21] <Sartas> i'll be back ^^^
[06:21] <tucats> bob2, it says that the xorg r128 driver is for ati rage128 hardware
[06:22] <bob2> tucats: ok
[06:22] <b0ng`> bob2, i try to run cedega then the parameter in the launcher that ived created but nothing happens.. i wonder whats wrong with my launcher
[06:22] <tucats> how can i tell if i have the driver already installed?
[06:22] <draug_n> anyone here can tell me how to re-enable the cups administration interface at port 631? trying to set up a print server, and it is rather hard to go to the system menu etc w/o gnome :)
[06:22] <bob2> b0ng`: so show us what you put in the box
[06:22] <digger3> anyone got a  good idea, howto resolve: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15707 ?
[06:22] <bob2> tucats: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; is it in the driver list?
[06:22] <Vespoli> !tell Vespoli about root
[06:23] <Furio_G> bob2: I just set the mp3 player's output plugin to eSound and it worked. I'm not sure if that's exactly what you were telling me to do but I got there anyway. cheers mate :)
[06:23] <bob2> Furio_G: that's what I meant, yes
[06:23] <b0ng`> bob2, in the command line i type (cedega hl.exe -console "cstrike" ) without the ()
[06:23] <thoreauputic> draug_n: add cupsys to the shadow group is what I've heard (IIRC)
[06:23] <tucats> no
[06:24] <bob2> digger3: wait for one of the ubuntu kernel people to fix it
[06:24] <thoreauputic> draug_n: or cupsd., not sure
[06:24] <bob2> b0ng`: does that work fro a terminal?
[06:24] <b0ng`> yup
[06:24] <b0ng`> it does
[06:24] <CyberDoo> Bob2: I was looking at my apache log and its sending my browser a 301 redirect code. Some 1.0 browsers will turn this into a GET request. Is this possibly my problem?
[06:24] <bob2> perhaps specify the full path to hl.exe
[06:25] <Sgep> Should I uninstall qemu before compiling qemu w/ kqemu?
[06:25] <bob2> Sgep: doesn't matter
[06:25] <bob2> you're not going to install your version to /usr/bin anyway
[06:25] <Sgep> Where does it get installed then?
[06:25] <rawi_> I focked up my xconfig how do I repair this?
[06:25] <b0ng`> bob2, kk.. will give a try now..
[06:26] <thoreauputic> Sgep: /usr/local/
[06:26] <bob2> rawi_: how did you break it?
[06:26] <mik3> what package does gnome-config and gnome-libs come in?
[06:26] <Sgep> That gets checked first?
[06:26] <rawi_> I tried to put my resolution higher
[06:26] <bob2> Sgep: indeed
[06:26] <ompaul> rawi_  usually this  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:26] <bob2> rawi_: so restore the backup of your config file
[06:26] <rawi_> And now I installed 2 vga's but only my oboard is giving screen
[06:26] <thoreauputic> Sgep: /usr/local/bin comes before /usr/bin in your $PATH
[06:27] <rawi_> how do I restore the backup
[06:27] <b0ng`> bob2, YES!! THANKS A LOT BRO!! i forgot to place a check on Run on Terminal
[06:27] <b0ng`> bob2, thank you very much
[06:27] <bob2> b0ng`: ah
[06:27] <bob2> I didn't do anything :)
[06:27] <bob2> rawi_: copy it from wherever you backed it up
[06:27] <rawi_> I never backed it up:$
[06:27] <bob2> rawi_: or, sudo dpkg -P --force-depends xserver-xorg ; sudo apt-tget install xserver-xorg
[06:27] <b0ng`> bob2, kk.. thanks again
[06:27] <bob2> rawi_: then you've learnt an important lesson
[06:28] <rawi_> hah yes indeed..
[06:28] <rawi_> Thanx i'm trying it right now
[06:28] <jjazz> Is there an easy way to share a printer attached to my ubuntu box?  I want to access it from win and debian boxes on the lan.  Do I need SAMBA?  Is there an easier way?
[06:29] <Sgep> "Could not find kernel includes in /lib/modules or /usr/src/linux - cannot build the kqemu module"
[06:29] <mik3> where do i get gnome-libs
[06:29] <bob2> Sgep: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:29] <mjr> jjazz, you probably need samba to share to the windows box, or an IPP client for the windows box
[06:29] <bob2> mjr: sudo aptitude install gnome-devel build-essentia
[06:29] <bob2> mik3: ^
[06:29] <mik3> thanks
[06:29] <Sgep> ty
[06:30] <feugan3333> Hi all. If I want to install the latest (source) version of nmap is it best to first remove the ubuntu nmap package?
[06:30] <jjazz> mjr, I thought that was the answer.  Thanks.  Ubuntu doesn't have a big red button marked "Share Printer" anywhere, does it?
[06:30] <feugan3333> It's a green button.
[06:30] <mwr1515> lol
[06:30] <bob2> feugan3333: doesn't matter
[06:31] <mjr> jjazz, sorry, I don't know about that
[06:31] <feugan3333> bob2: won't it corrupt the apt database if the source install replaces file that the package installed?
[06:31] <Sartas> bob2: it is valid
[06:31] <jjazz> mjr, thanks
[06:32] <Sartas> bob2: remeber me?
[06:32] <thoreauputic> feugan3333: it doesn't
[06:32] <thoreauputic> feugan3333: stuff you compile lands in /usr/local
[06:32] <feugan3333> A little explaination would be nice :-)
[06:32] <rawi_> xserver restart
[06:32] <mjr> jjazz, however, in case that's useful, there's some stuff about Windows using IPP servers (that is cups and not samba) here: http://www.owlfish.com/thoughts/winipp-cups-2003-07-20.html
[06:32] <feugan3333> ahh ok thanks
[06:32] <Sartas> bob2: what should i do?
[06:32] <thoreauputic> feugan3333: I recommend you install " checkinstall"
[06:33] <jjazz> mjr, much appreciated.  I'll read that.
[06:33] <bob2> feugan3333: which is why you install to /usr/local/
[06:33] <Sgep> ty
[06:33] <bob2> Sarr-chan: ?
[06:33] <thoreauputic> feugan3333: checkinstall makes adeb for you
[06:33] <thoreauputic> * a deb
[06:33] <Sarr-chan> bob2: yea, Sartas was regged with a pass i've forgotten.
[06:34] <Sgep> checkinstall?
[06:34] <bob2> great, I still have no idea what your problem is
[06:34] <Sarr-chan> bob2: Im installing ubuntu hoary i386
[06:34] <thoreauputic> Sgep:  apt-cache show checkinstall
[06:34] <Sarr-chan> bob2: and i cant enter a password
[06:34] <feugan3333> thoreauputic: cool, I did not know about that.
[06:34] <thoreauputic> :)
[06:35] <bob2> Sarr-chan: file a bug, I guess
[06:35] <Sarr-chan> bob2: it just asks me to do it again, and again.
[06:35] <bob2> Sarr-chan: or try breezy
[06:35] <Sarr-chan> ok..
[06:35] <thoreauputic> feugan3333: you just use " sudo checkinstall" instead of " sudo make install "
[06:35] <Sarr-chan> whats the difference?
[06:36] <fadumpt> can someone point me to the iptables howto for ubuntu?
[06:36] <Sarr-chan> bob2: what's the difference, and is breezy stable enough?
[06:36] <fadumpt> I have an SSH port that needs to be opened up to the cold cruel world
[06:36] <fadumpt> !tell fadumpt about iptables
[06:36] <bob2> Sarr-chan: if you don't care about binary X drivers, it's fine
[06:36] <tucats> i looked it up in apt-get and i have the xserver-xorg-driver-ati package installed which is suppose to have the r128 driver with it but when i did sudo dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg it was not listed what am i doing wrong?
[06:36] <bob2> fadumpt: there's nothing to do
[06:36] <fadumpt> it's blocked
[06:37] <bob2> tucats: perhaps that driver is deprecated and replaced by the radeon one
[06:37] <bob2> fadumpt: not on ubuntu it's not
[06:37] <fadumpt> connection refused
[06:37] <Creart> Sarr-chan: i just installed  the Ubuntu Hoary, few hours ago... even while you dont see the password it will be there
[06:37] <bob2> fadumpt: perhaps you forgot to configure some router or firewall in front of it
[06:37] <bob2> fadumpt: is it actually running?
[06:37] <fadumpt> no, i tried it locally
[06:37] <Sarr-chan> Creart: but
[06:37] <fadumpt> running
[06:37] <steve> hello everyone! I just tinstalled ubuntu the first time...problem: it hangs @ "starting hotplug subsystem" :(
[06:37] <fadumpt> interesting idea...
[06:37] <Sarr-chan> Creart: i cant enter any password
[06:37] <Sarr-chan> Creart: i cant log in
[06:37] <bob2> fadumpt: so, you're giving a very confusing and disparate description of the problem
[06:37] <Creart> are you sure...
[06:37] <Sarr-chan> Creart: even with blank password
[06:37] <tucats> the radeon driver would not be compatible with my chipset though
[06:37] <bob2> fadumpt: simplest would be for you to explain the whole situation on one line
[06:38] <Sarr-chan> bob2: whats those drivers?
[06:39] <bob2> Sarr-chan: ?
[06:39] <bob2> Sarr-chan: if you care about them, breezy is not for you
[06:39] <feugan3333> thoreauputic: it works. Thanks again
[06:39] <Sarr-chan> bob2: since i dont know about them, do i care about them then? when are they used?
[06:39] <thoreauputic> feugan3333: no problem :)
[06:40] <fadumpt> !tell fadumpt about ssh
[06:40] <bob2> Sarr-chan: no, for 3d acceleration
[06:41] <steve> no one an idea what i can do? I'd really like to try ubuntu...
[06:41] <Sarr-chan> since im not playing games on linux, im save then?
[06:42] <bob2> Sarr-chan: yes
[06:42] <bob2> steve: do report a bug, I doubt there's much anyone here can do to help
[06:42] <LokeDK> If I install kubuntu-desktop, do I have to get arts? I don't like it
[06:42] <bob2> unless it's just a apic/acpi issue
[06:42] <bob2> LokeDK: kde requires it
[06:43] <LokeDK> Damn.. Can I disable it and use alsa?
[06:43] <fadumpt> well bob2, according to the howto, I need to install the server first, doesn't come with it
[06:43] <feugan3333> thoreauputic: This is scary. When I type nmap it runs the old version (3.75) but /usr/local/bin is before /usr/bin on my $PATH. Why is the old version running?
[06:43] <ompaul> fadumpt, try this >> sudo apt-get install dropbear << then try this >> ssh -C username@127.0.0.1 which should if it is all working correctly allow you to log into your own machine locally and the good news there is no firewall in your way unless you put one there
[06:43] <draug_n> weee... it worked :) thx
[06:43] <steve> bob2: thx...I have no idea why its not loading...where should i report the bug?
[06:43] <bob2> fadumpt: yes, of course
[06:43] <bob2> fadumpt: you claimed it was runing, tho
[06:43] <thoreauputic> feugan3333: try opening a new terminal
[06:43] <bob2> steve: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[06:44] <fadumpt> I made the mistake of figuring it was installed
[06:44] <steve> bob2: thx
[06:44] <bob2> feugan3333: hash -r
[06:44] <bob2> fadumpt: that is your problem then
[06:44] <fadumpt> I know, i'm installing openssh-server
[06:44] <feugan3333> :-) THANKS
[06:44] <fadumpt> just letting you know that it's been resolved
[06:45] <steve> bob2: how can i find out if "it's just a apic/acpi issue"
[06:45] <Earthen> is there a way to make all the folders in the media folder show up in the computer folder
[06:45] <steve> bob2: maybe it is...I dont know...am new to ubuntu
[06:46] <Earthen> like auto mount when a cd is inserted
[06:46] <Earthen> ompaul, hey how you doing? feeling better I hope!
[06:46] <devonst17_> hihi
[06:47] <onkarshinde> How good is ATI Radeon 7000 with linux? Is it a AGP 4x card?
[06:47] <sentinel> hi there, is it possible to force a user to logout?
[06:47] <devonst17_> i guess its a bad time to ask a question, huh? :)
[06:48] <Earthen> devonst17, there is never and good or bad time for that i thnk :)
[06:48] <devonst17_> Earthen: well thats good, cause i need help with X11
[06:48] <Earthen> devonst17, you ask and hope for the best
[06:48] <bob2> steve: try booting it with the "noapic" or "acpi=off" options
[06:48] <bob2> not really in the mood to hold your hand through that, tho, sorry
[06:48] <steve> bob2: thx
[06:49] <bob2> onkarshinde: yes, it will use whatever low level of acceleration it has by default
[06:49] <Earthen> devonst17, well I pretty much a noob so I can only be of verry limited help but i will do what i can
[06:49] <ubuntu> please help a italian chanel?
[06:49] <devonst17_> Anyone using a USB mouse with X11? under my ConfiguredMouse section I have my Device as "/dev/input/mice" but I cant rembember the Protocol for USB
[06:49] <onkarshinde> bob2: But I don't know for sure whether it is 4x or 8x card. Do you know. My AGP interface is 8X.
[06:49] <devonst17_> Earthen: As am I
[06:49] <devonst17_> Earthen: :)
[06:50] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: /join #ubuntu-it I think
[06:50] <Earthen> devonst17,  then maybe we can learn todeather LOL
[06:50] <ubuntu> tnx
[06:50] <devonst17_> Earthen: :D Do you have a USB mouse and X11?
[06:51] <Earthen> devonst17, yes I do I actull have 2 of them installed and working
[06:51] <setite> hey bob2 you around
[06:51] <fooboy> does ubuntu by default send out any snmp related data
[06:51] <devonst17_> Earthen: could you sudo nano /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
[06:51] <Earthen> devonst17, one usb and one ps2
[06:51] <Vespoli> hello -- how can I install a deb package in ubuntu
[06:52] <onkarshinde> Vespoli: sudo dpkg --install filename.deb
[06:52] <Vespoli> i:D
[06:52] <devonst17_> Earthen: then read me what protocol it is (the line right under "Divice" "/dev/input/mice"
[06:52] <Vespoli> thanks
[06:52] <Earthen> devonst17, I get no such file
[06:52] <setite> who knows how i can get my kernel sources so that i can build something
[06:52] <mwr1515> Hello All, I'm new to Ubuntu/Linux. My question is, should i be concerned about security and Viruses?
[06:52] <devonst17_> Earthen: gah, you are using Xorg
[06:52] <thoreauputic> Vespoli: in general, you don't need to - use synaptic or apt
[06:52] <bob2> onkarshinde: no idea, but I doubt it matters
[06:52] <bob2> fooboy: no
[06:52] <apokryphos> mwr1515: no
[06:52] <bob2> steve: and the thing you're trying to build is...
[06:52] <onkarshinde> setite: ever heard of apt-get or synaptic?
[06:53] <mwr1515> not even a firewall?
[06:53] <fooboy> what could be causing it
[06:53] <fooboy> ?
[06:53] <Earthen> devonst17, I have no Idea
[06:53] <bob2> mwr1515: correct] 
[06:53] <bob2> fooboy: causing what?
[06:53] <Earthen> devonst17, I have x11 installed
[06:53] <thoreauputic> mwr1515: only reason for a firewall is if you run services
[06:53] <apokryphos> Odd. Upon my last reboot, my chroots keep producing "su: must be run from a terminal". Seems odd. I recopied my /usr/share/terminfo into there, but still the problem. Ideas?
[06:53] <devonst17_> Earthen: Hrmm.... Do you have a config file of any kind in your /etc/X11/ folder?
[06:53] <mwr1515> Ok, thanks
[06:53] <fooboy> the snmp traffic
[06:54] <Earthen> devonst17, one sec i check
[06:54] <bob2> fooboy: so find out where it's coming from, using netstat
[06:54] <thoreauputic> Earthen:  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:54] <mwr1515> So are there any viruses at all for Linux?
[06:55] <Earthen> devonst17, I have xorg.conf, Xwrapper.config
[06:55] <fooboy> that yeilded no results
[06:55] <setite> onkarshinde: is that a joke
[06:55] <devonst17_> Earthen: under xorg.conf, can you read me what it says under the /dev/input/mice line?
[06:55] <thoreauputic> mwr1515: none in the wild, and none you need to worry about
[06:55] <fooboy> what service is ipp
[06:55] <mwr1515> Thats awesome
[06:55] <Earthen> devonst17, you want to output of xorg.conf
[06:55] <darksatanic> fooboy: Internet Printing Protocol
[06:55] <darksatanic> (IIRC)
[06:55] <thoreauputic> fooboy: internet printing protocal
[06:55] <Earthen> devonst17, ok
[06:55] <thoreauputic> *protocol
[06:56] <onkarshinde> setite: No I am serious. synaptic can install alot of things fro you provided you haveenabled enough repositories.
[06:56] <fooboy> thanks
[06:56] <setite> found the package
[06:56] <bob2> setite: what are yo utrying to build?
[06:56] <setite> onkarshinde: the problem was that i didnt see kernel source... just kernel sources for nvidia and the like...
[06:56] <fooboy> is their anyway to use netstat to see what process it's associated with
[06:56] <onkarshinde> setite: search linux-source
[06:57] <setite> bob2 - the linux-wlan-ng from the other day... ive been searching forums for an answer and imma try to build it from the source... and pray it works
[06:57] <devonst17_> Earthen: You could do a "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "Protocol"
[06:57] <Earthen> devonst17, Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
[06:57] <setite> onkarshinde: yea thats the one i just found
[06:57] <devonst17_> oic...
[06:57] <devonst17_> Earthen: you are on your PS/2 mouse comp?
[06:57] <nekohayo> did someone achieve using reiserfs on a usb drive?
[06:57] <Earthen> devonst17, gues that my ps2 mouse
[06:57] <bob2> setite: how would that help?
[06:57] <devonst17_> Earthen: Could you look on your USB one?
[06:58] <bob2> setite: also, sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:58] <bob2> fooboy: yes, netstat shows you which process is using which network socket
[06:58] <Earthen> devonst17, one sec i look again, no i actully have 2 mice hooked to this computer
[06:58] <setite> bob2 - compiling a kernel... it wouldnt help any
[06:58] <devonst17_> oic
[06:59] <fooboy> iv been typing netstat -4
[06:59] <fooboy> how can i show the processes aswell
[06:59] <onkarshinde> any idea if an AGP card comes with buildin memory or whether it shares memory? I am talking about ATI Radeon 7000.
[06:59] <Earthen> devonst17, that is weard acouring to this i only have one mouse installed
[06:59] <bob2> fooboy: sudo netstat -pnt
[06:59] <bob2> onkarshinde: that is card-specific
[06:59] <devonst17_> Earthen: yeah... it would say that
[06:59] <bob2> onkarshinde: why don't you just try it already?
[07:00] <fooboy> thanks
[07:00] <setite> bob2 i should run sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) after i install a new kernel right... i want the nongeneric kernel... i wont bother building just yet
[07:00] <devonst17_> Earthen: Never mind, I will try elsewhere, Thx
[07:00] <Earthen> devonst17, but i have 2, 1 ps2 and 1usb
[07:00] <Earthen> devonst17, sorry
[07:00] <bob2> setite: run it whenever you're using the kernel you want to be using
[07:00] <setite> cool ok
[07:00] <devonst17_> Earthen: Dont worry about it, :)
[07:00] <onkarshinde> bob2: Because I don't want to take risk. I am on a 128 RAM system. And I don't want to share memory. I already have a PCI card.
[07:01] <onkarshinde> bob2: I want to buy this new card but after making sure that I won't loose memory.
[07:01] <mjr> onkarshinde, I don't think a radeon 700 will share memory
[07:01] <mjr> +0
[07:01] <setite> ill wait for breezy to compile my own kernel
[07:02] <gerarcone> how can i install a .deb file?
[07:02] <mwr1515> video cards have their own build in memory
[07:02] <onkarshinde> mjr: you sure?
[07:02] <Seveas> gerarcone, sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[07:02] <mjr> onkarshinde, pretty sure
[07:02] <mwr1515> only time ram is shared for video is if the video is onboard
[07:02] <gerarcone> Seveas: an to uninstall it?
[07:02] <sahak> Hello
[07:02] <test34> onkarshinde, why not check on ATI's website
[07:02] <onkarshinde> mjr: thanks.
[07:02] <Earthen> devonst17, it is listed in the gui devise manager don't know if i could tell you something from there
[07:03] <devonst17_> Earthen: Turns out IMPS/2 was the right one after all, :D
[07:03] <Earthen> devonst17, ok great you found it out
[07:03] <apokryphos> gerarcone: dpkg -r <package>
[07:03] <apokryphos> gerarcone: good idea to acquaint yourself with the man pages :)
[07:03] <onkarshinde> test34: checked already. it doesn't clearly specify whether it has builtin memory or not.
[07:04] <setite> hey bob2 whats sudo aptitude do versus apt-get
[07:05] <bob2> use aptitude instead of apt
[07:05] <apokryphos> setite: several differences; aptitude automatically installs recommended packs etc
[07:05] <bob2> among other things, aptitude records what things were only installed because something else needed them
[07:05] <onkarshinde> Ok. One last question. Which is better in Ubuntu? GeForce MX200 or ATI Radeon 7000? I am getting both at about same price.
[07:05] <bob2> then removes it if the thing that needed them gets removed
[07:05] <setite> should i always use aptitude instead of apt-get
[07:05] <apokryphos> Of course, aptitude is annoying when, say, a package relies on different language-packs
[07:06] <apokryphos> you don't want it to install them all =). You can use an option for that, though.
[07:06] <bob2> setite: I do
[07:06] <apokryphos> s/relies/recommends
[07:06] <Earthen> onkarshinde, I'm a big ati fan but i do thing GeForce have better linux support
[07:06] <setite> hmmm ok... well restarting with -k8 kernel.. then ill get the source and headers
[07:07] <gerarcone> apokryphos: yes, you are on right, but in some cases i don't know where looking for
[07:07] <tristanmike> how would I encrypt text?
[07:07] <Prodegy> Hello
[07:07] <tristanmike> or anything for that matter
[07:07] <fooboy> whats better ubuntu or gentoo
[07:07] <Prodegy> I am Using Kopette Messenger but everytime I add an account. for MSN it says password wrong
[07:07] <apokryphos> gerarcone: in this case it was of course very simple :). You look through the options and look for remove/deinstall etc etc
[07:07] <thoreauputic> fooboy: you won't get an unbiased opinion here :)
[07:07] <apokryphos> Prodegy: add the kde 3.4.2 repository, and install Kopete.
[07:08] <fooboy> k
[07:08] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Prodegy about kde342
[07:08] <fooboy> thanks
[07:08] <Creart> could someone tell me where to find the symantic "smart upgrade" function??
[07:08] <silver_cpu> hi, all. anyone know how i can get 3d hardware accelleration going on 5.10?
[07:08] <slack7384> silvercpu - what vid card do you have?
[07:08] <silver_cpu> slack7384, nvidia gf6600
[07:09] <slack7384> silver_cpu - have you installed the nVidia proprietary drivers from nvidia's site yet?
[07:09] <gerarcone> apokryphos: but wat man page i should look into? this is the problem
[07:09] <onkarshinde> Earthen: I don't see any card named GeForce MX200 on nVidia's site.
[07:09] <silver_cpu> slack7384, no i haven't, last time they didn't do too well and i ended up installing with module-assistant
[07:09] <FallenOne> Can anyone help me in pms? (i need a guide for something)
[07:09] <silver_cpu> but for some reason it didn't want to work this time
[07:09] <ompaul> fooboy, if you went to #gentoo (out the door three doors down on the right)  they would  not be so honest as to say they are not biased as thoreauputic suggests we might be, guess that makes ubuntu better :)
[07:09] <silver_cpu> maybe i'll just give it another shot
[07:10] <setite> FallenOne: try to get help in main channel for benefit of all
[07:10] <apokryphos> gerarcone: well, of course it's dpkg; if you didn't know that before, you surely know it after you were told how to install the deb ;-)
[07:10] <slack7384> silver_cpu - Ok, then under the xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf you should change the driver to "nv"
[07:10] <FallenOne> setite wheres the main channel
[07:10] <fooboy> lol
[07:10] <fooboy> ok thanks
[07:10] <silver_cpu> slack7384, "nv" is the non-proprietary driver, isn't it?
[07:10] <FallenOne> oh
[07:10] <FallenOne> lol
[07:10] <FallenOne> XD
[07:10] <FallenOne> ok
[07:10] <setite> your in it
[07:10] <FallenOne> i need a guide
[07:10] <FallenOne> let ssee
[07:10] <FallenOne> for
[07:10] <FallenOne> the fallowing
[07:10] <setite> dude stop that
[07:10] <Earthen> fooboy, I actully have both installed, in a nut shell i think ease of setup is the big differnace, ubuntu maybe an hour to get everything up and running  and gentoo took me about a week,,mide you unce it up it is great eveything ic compiled for you system
[07:10] <ompaul> FallenOne, all               on            the              one          line please
[07:10] <thoreauputic> gerarcone:  apropos <commandname>  can be useful too
[07:11] <setite> your almost flooding... right full sentences
[07:11] <slack7384> siliver_cpu - as far as I know, there is a stock nVidia driver included with X.org and the proprietary driver from nvidia
[07:11] <setite> write*
[07:11] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell FallenOne about enter
[07:11] <gerarcone> apokryphos: thank you, i will try to read man page as much as i can
[07:11] <tristanmike> FallenOne, try to keep as many thoughts in one post please
[07:11] <fooboy> with which distro?
[07:11] <bwlang> i've got this strange problem... when i insert my flash card into the pcmcia adapter i'm able to mount it but it immediately unmounts before i can get a chance to move the pictures off...  I tried stopping /etc/init.d/hotplug but that had no effect.
[07:11] <apokryphos> gerarcone: cool :)
[07:11] <apokryphos> fooboy: eh?
[07:12] <gerarcone> thoreauputic: thanks, in effect very useful
[07:12] <FallenOne> : partitions (not so hard just like primary or logical , and..the installing...my question is like before or after i configured dual booting , and then how do i dual boot
[07:12] <fooboy> d/w
[07:12] <ompaul> apokryphos, I think fooboy is talking to Earthen but he ain't used to addressing the person he is talking to so it could be anyone of the 467 people here :)
[07:12] <silver_cpu> slack7384, i'm trying to get the proprietary driver working
[07:13] <gerarcone> linux is very difficult for me. i understood that despite the GUI is all text based...
[07:13] <setite> installing ubuntu gives you the option to install GRUB... thats all you need to dual boot
[07:13] <fooboy> yes ompaul that is correct
[07:13] <apokryphos> fooboy: it's always good to (most of the time), start by addressing someone in every post -- especially in big chans :).
[07:13] <silver_cpu> gerarcone, you're coming in at the right time
[07:13] <setite> it will automatically detect windows... and most other OSs i presume
[07:13] <apokryphos> ompaul: thanks
[07:13] <Earthen> fooboy, I have gentoo for server and ubuntu for desktop at home
[07:13] <silver_cpu> linux is getting easier, and the time of desktop linux is neigh
[07:13] <gerarcone> silver_cpu: what?
[07:13] <fooboy> Earthen, thanks
[07:14] <silver_cpu> gerarcone, stick with it. try out ubuntu or kubuntu, that gives you a good solid gui to work with
[07:14] <fooboy> whats seprates ubuntu from debain apart from ease of install?
[07:14] <silver_cpu> slip into the command line slowly, as you have to
[07:14] <gerarcone> silver_cpu: yes, i'm using ubuntu
[07:14] <apokryphos> fooboy: excellent package management system
[07:14] <setite> damnit im still getting errors
[07:14] <bob2> fooboy: the installes are very nearly identical
[07:14] <setite> i hate this
[07:14] <slack7384> silver_cpu - ok, "nv" is the stock x.org driver and "nvidia" is the proprieatary driver
[07:14] <thoreauputic> fooboy: 6 month release cycle
[07:14] <bob2> apokryphos: debian has the same package management system
[07:14] <silver_cpu> if ubuntu or kubuntu isn't easy enough for you, try out mepis, it has a bit more polish in some areas, and comes with a lot of proprietary drivers pre-installed
[07:14] <apokryphos> fooboy: see http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[07:14] <deFrysk> FOOBBETTER LOOKS, MORE BLEEDING
[07:14] <Earthen> fooboy, my main reasionfor going with gentoo with the server was for the amd 64 bit, since everything is compiled most everythign works in gentoo on 64 bit
[07:15] <cantona> anyone know ltsp i boot from PXE but TFTP Error -  Access violation ??
[07:15] <setite> bob2 are you in #flood or someone who wants to give me some direction
[07:15] <apokryphos> bob2: sorry, I thought he meant from other distros.
[07:15] <deFrysk> oops caps sorry
[07:15] <bob2> apokryphos: ah
[07:15] <StyXman> hi all. I'm looking for the package that contains the app shown in this sshot: http://www.gnome.org/start/2.12/notes/en/figures/figure-logviewer.png
[07:15] <FallenOne> how much space do i need to install linux : i thought like 2gb partition
[07:15] <setite> nvm ill pastebin
[07:15] <gerarcone> silver_cpu: i've tried debian, mandrake and suse, but they give me a lot of problem during the installation. ubuntu is the only that is running quite well
[07:15] <setite> !pastebin
[07:15] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:15] <bob2> FallenOne: ubuntu needs 1.8GB for a default install
[07:16] <fooboy> Earthen, cool i dont have a 64 bit a have a pentium 4 with gentoo and a celron 2.2GHZ with ubuntu
[07:16] <gerarcone> FallenOne: maybe a little more is better
[07:16] <thoreauputic> FallenOne: 2 gig would be a very tight fit
[07:16] <silver_cpu> gerarcone, i'm in the same boat; my motherboard's chipset is supported by very few distros
[07:16] <silver_cpu> StyXman, you're probably looking for syslog-ng
[07:16] <StyXman> FallenOne: take ina ccoung that the mentioned 1.8GiB includes almost everything you might want to do w/ your computert (and maybe more)
[07:16] <silver_cpu> gerarcone, what kind of computer are you running this on?
[07:16] <fooboy> With ubuntu/debain i seem to need alot of holes in my firewall
[07:16] <moomooboy> can anyone explain to me how to run a DVD movie on ubuntu?
[07:17] <fooboy> for updates
[07:17] <StyXman> silver_cpu: no, it's one of the gnome-2.12 new apps
[07:17] <gerarcone> silver_cpu: notebook ASUS
[07:17] <bob2> fooboy: of course not
[07:17] <bob2> fooboy: no
[07:17] <x[BrB] x> im just new using ubuntu.. i partitioned my hdd... how can i access my 2nd hdd??
[07:17] <fooboy> for updates is their anyway i could proxy these
[07:17] <Earthen> fooboy, then if i were you i would stick with ubuntu for now, I still pretty much a noob at this all and beleave me Ubuntu is much easer to get you feel wet. Gentoo is like running into a cliff
[07:17] <gerarcone> silver_cpu: the ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 is giving me some problems
[07:17] <bob2> fooboy: it's just ftp or http
[07:17] <StyXman> moomooboy: try ogle
[07:17] <bob2> x[BrB] x: /msg ubotu ntfs, use the script it mentions
[07:17] <silver_cpu> gerarcone, know this: ASUS has a strong anti-open source attitude, and they're not too friendly with the linux community. that being said, if you've got ati then at least you should be able to get things going
[07:17] <moomooboy> okies
[07:17] <StyXman> (you might need to install it from universe, I think)
[07:18] <silver_cpu> ati provides a proprietary driver that you'll probably have to install, hold on a sec lemme look at sometihng
[07:18] <silver_cpu> something
[07:18] <fooboy> i like to proxy everything in and everything out
[07:18] <bob2> fooboy: that's silly, but not a problem
[07:18] <fooboy> Y is it silly
[07:18] <FallenOne> is 5 gb anough?
[07:18] <fooboy> Y is it silly?
[07:18] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: they might be mounted int /media
[07:19] <setite> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2303 can someone look at that....
[07:19] <thoreauputic> fooboy: is it hard to type "why" ?
[07:19] <tristanmike> .msg NickServ IDENTIFY ThePinkFloyd
[07:19] <silver_cpu> gerarcone, have you checked out module-assistant?
[07:19] <fooboy> why is it silly?
[07:19] <bob2> fooboy: why bother? anyway, ubuntu only requires ftp or http for security updates
[07:19] <thoreauputic> tristanmike: time to change passwords...
[07:19] <setite> tristanmike: you may want to change your password now
[07:19] <apokryphos> tristanmike: you might want to change your pass now :)
[07:19] <apokryphos> heh
[07:19] <tristanmike> I hear that
[07:19] <setite> hehe
[07:19] <silver_cpu> gerarcone, http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html
[07:19] <jedi> lol
[07:20] <x[BrB] x> how will i use that??
[07:20] <setite> hey bob2 can you take a gander when you have time http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2303
[07:20] <StyXman> setite: maybe the module doesn' t compile for amd64
[07:20] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: did you finished installing ubutu?
[07:20] <setite> imma be pissed if thats it
[07:20] <gerarcone> silver_cpu: if you look well, there is not the driver for the ati mob 9700
[07:20] <fooboy> bob2, ok thanks
[07:21] <x[BrB] x> yes styxman
[07:21] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: takle a look at /media
[07:21] <bob2> setite: er, you don't need to build the drivers
[07:21] <StyXman> there might be some dirs where your other partitions are mounted
[07:21] <silver_cpu> gerarcone, http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/debian.html
[07:21] <silver_cpu> check that out, that might help you
[07:21] <setite> bob2 - why not...
[07:22] <FallenOne> can anyone help me!!
[07:22] <setite> the package on the repo is 32bit and that thing we tried the other day kept failing
[07:22] <fooboy> COuld i set a varibale to force wget or apt-get to use a proxy
[07:22] <x[BrB] x> where can i find that media :(
[07:22] <bob2> setite: because they're already part of the ubutnu kernels?
[07:22] <silver_cpu> gerarcone, just out of curiosity, why do you need 3d accelleration on your laptop? playing games, or work or what?
[07:22] <bob2> setite: dude
[07:22] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: /media
[07:22] <Furio_G> I just downloaded jre and jdk. converted to .deb and dpkg -i. I can't find java/javac though
[07:22] <FallenOne> when i install partition magic and i want to make a new partition it says i cant go higher than 500 mb for new partition of the 5gb i have on my disc that im going to share
[07:22] <setite> ok i know prism2 is already included and such... but this device isnt working
[07:23] <bob2> setite: "isnt working" is nto a very useful description of the problem...
[07:23] <gerarcone> silver_cpu: 3d acceleration is the only thing that i can gain installing the driver?
[07:23] <silver_cpu> gerarcone, for the most part, yes. there is almost no other benefit
[07:24] <x[BrB] x> wheres that media :(
[07:24] <silver_cpu> if you are on a standard monitor, occasionally you can get different refresh rates/resolutions that the vesa driver doesn't give you
[07:24] <setite> well the device loads as i see when i type dmesg... but other than that i cant get the device to configure and networking doesnt find the device
[07:24] <FallenOne> HELLO!?!
[07:24] <FallenOne> when i install partition magic and i want to make a new partition it says i cant go higher than 500 mb for new partition of the 5gb i have on my disc that im going to share
[07:25] <apokryphos> FallenOne: please don't flood
[07:25] <silver_cpu> but there's very little benefit to fooling with proprietary drivers for 3d hardware on a laptop, unless it's for gaming or CAD or something
[07:25] <FallenOne> i aint dude but noone answers me
[07:25] <apokryphos> FallenOne: if someone can help, they'll try to. Just state your question (as you have), and be patient.
[07:25] <bob2> FallenOne: this sounds a lot more like a partition magic issue than an ubuntu one
[07:25] <gerarcone> silver_cpu: i'm very ignorant about these things, what are the benefits of 3d acceleration?
[07:25] <bob2> FallenOne: it's commercial proprietary software; you paid for it, so they should provide you with tech support
[07:25] <FallenOne> it is but maybe someone can help me here 0.0
[07:25] <D1> does anyone use turboprint?
[07:25] <gerarcone> silver_cpu: generally, of course
[07:25] <FallenOne> i didnt buy it :D
[07:25] <silver_cpu> gerarcone, well, let's say that you want to generate 3d geometry in realtime
[07:25] <silver_cpu> such as playing a game that is in a 3d world
[07:25] <setite> FallenOne: i suggest just resizin the C: drive and letting the ubuntu installer partition the free unallocated space that will be left after resizing... but defragment first
[07:25] <ion_bidon> hello, can anyone help me setting a usb cable modem on ubuntu ? I have the module usbnet enabled, ohci-usb, ehci-usb and uhci-usb modules enabled, lsusb shows me the modem but when I type ifconfig -a, I don't see something like usb0 devices
[07:25] <Vespoli> aieeeeeeeE!
[07:25] <bob2> FallenOne: then you'll have to go find help from your local warez group or something
[07:25] <Vespoli> help
[07:26] <silver_cpu> or designing some machine part in 3d
[07:26] <Vespoli> how can I regain root password
[07:26] <StyXman> Vespoli: erm
[07:26] <Vespoli> I "disabled" it
[07:26] <bob2> FallenOne: I'm nto sure why you'd be using it at all, tho; ubuntu';s installer lets you resize partitions
[07:26] <Vespoli> useing the sudo thing in the wiki
[07:26] <gerarcone> silver_cpu: working with 3d studio max for example?
[07:26] <bob2> Vespoli: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[07:26] <setite> FallenOne: warez is not something we speak of here... so refrain from in in the future
[07:26] <silver_cpu> then you'd want to take some of the work off the main processor, by adding a 3d accellerator, such as a video chipset from ati or nvidia
[07:26] <StyXman> Vespoli: you have sudo yet?
[07:26] <Vespoli> I read that
[07:26] <silver_cpu> gerarcone, yes
[07:26] <Vespoli> no
[07:26] <setite> bob2 - its less scary for a windozer
[07:26] <bob2> Vespoli: then be more specific
[07:26] <FallenOne> Setite : but i cant go higher than 2,4gb so i can unacolate it
[07:26] <Vespoli> well, when I type sudo passwd root
[07:26] <StyXman> Vespoli: sudo passwd doesn't work?
[07:26] <Vespoli> nothing happens
[07:26] <Vespoli> :-/
[07:27] <gerarcone> silver_cpu: image editing, using photoshop or gimp?
[07:27] <ompaul> D1, no, I use the native printmanager it does the job exactly the way I want
[07:27] <Sonny_Wertzik> Can someone tell me what a CVS file is?
[07:27] <setite> im not fully understaning your problem FallenOne, how big is the drive
[07:27] <silver_cpu> gerarcone, that won't be affected in the least
[07:27] <StyXman> Vespoli: how did you disabled it/
[07:27] <Vespoli> erm
[07:27] <Vespoli> sudo passwd -l root
[07:27] <StyXman> Sonny_Wertzik: see the wikipedia
[07:27] <fortnox> Hey guys. And ladies if present. Tell me any of you have any info on Flasplayer for 64bit machines?
[07:27] <Vespoli> letter l
[07:27] <D1> ompaul, well, I have an unsupported cups printer, so I need it. ;[
[07:27] <Echelon-H> what is "sequnecer" and why dont i have it on /dev/sequnecer?
[07:27] <setite> fortnox: your semi-buggered... install 32bit ff for that
[07:28] <Echelon-H> *sequencer
[07:28] <x[BrB] x> where can i find the media??
[07:28] <silver_cpu> gerarcone, does that answer your question?
[07:28] <setite> fortnox: its not possible on the 64bit build of FF
[07:28] <FallenOne> my drive C:/ is 30gb (4 left) my D: is 30 gb also (5 left) and E: is around 20 gb (none left)
[07:28] <fortnox> setite, i was afraid it was gonna have to be something like that
[07:28] <setite> !flash
[07:28] <ubotu> I heard flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:28] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: int he file manager, at the left, there are three icons
[07:28] <FallenOne> but i cant get more than 500mb out of D:/
[07:28] <setite> fortnox: from what i hear its quite easy... i havent tried yet....
[07:28] <jedi> arg, i've just spent forever trying to get cgi stuff worked out on apache only to realise it's been working for ages but firefox's cache led me to believe otherwise :S
[07:28] <StyXman> one reads ``filesystem'' or something similar
[07:28] <bob2> Sonny_Wertzik: comma seperated value
[07:28] <Vespoli> is there anything that I can do  !?!?!
[07:28] <StyXman> tah gives you /
[07:28] <gerarcone> silver_cpu: so the system as is now don't provide me only the 3d acceleration, right? the problem is that at the moment i dont' have the knowledge to install a driver like that
[07:29] <StyXman> there you can find /media
[07:29] <Vespoli> :''(
[07:29] <StyXman> I think; I use KDE here
[07:29] <StyXman> Vespoli: lemme see
[07:29] <Vespoli> ty
[07:29] <setite> bob2 - any ideas what to do to utilize the wifi adapter...
[07:29] <silver_cpu> gerarcone, you learn as you go, and video accelleration is one of the toughest driver installs, next to non-open hardware like (some) laptop wireless adapters
[07:29] <setite> ill flood the 3 lines that shows it loaded
[07:29] <StyXman> Vespoli: use -u
[07:29] <silver_cpu> most hardware is just supported out of the box
[07:29] <ompaul> D1, no you need a printer driver, if it supports the printer great, if not, not so good, D1 but before you commit to buying it, check out the cost of a couple of refills and that software and compare it with the cost of a replacement printer, might make economic sense, in particular if the software does not work in a year when you go to upgrade your O/S :)
[07:29] <Vespoli> sudo passwd -u root ?
[07:29] <StyXman> sudo passwd -u root
[07:29] <setite> how do i list devices loaded
[07:29] <Vespoli> :D
[07:30] <Vespoli> k
[07:30] <setite> silver_cpu: tough?!
[07:30] <StyXman> setite: lsmod
[07:30] <fortnox> setite, thank you very much
[07:30] <x[BrB] x> i can see application , places, system
[07:30] <fortnox> :)
[07:30] <Sonny_Wertzik> bob2, are u talkin to me?
[07:30] <D1> yeah, true.
[07:30] <Vespoli> adam@tux:~$ sudo passwd root
[07:30] <Vespoli> adam@tux:~$ sudo passwd -uroot
[07:30] <Vespoli> adam@tux:~$ sudo passwd -u root
[07:30] <Vespoli> adam@tux:~$
[07:30] <D1> $30 is a bummer
[07:30] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: system
[07:30] <Vespoli> nothing!
[07:30] <apokryphos> Vespoli: don't paste in here.
[07:30] <D1> it costs more than the printer itself.
[07:30] <bob2> Vespoli: dude, stop being annoying
[07:30] <StyXman> Vespoli: that enambles it again
[07:30] <gerarcone> silver_cpu: do you think that it affect also video editic such as DVD ripping or simple avi playing?
[07:30] <StyXman> try changing passwd noe
[07:30] <bob2> Sonny_Wertzik: indeed...
[07:30] <x[BrB] x> ok
[07:30] <derek> Hi folks!
[07:30] <FallenOne> Setite : is 2,4 gb enough?
[07:30] <Vespoli> hmm StyXman it doesn't seem to work at all
[07:31] <setite> for ubuntu... im sure it is
[07:31] <bob2> setite: you haven't really mentioned in what way it's not working
[07:31] <setite> lemme see how much ive used
[07:31] <PShivers> how do i access my HD's?
[07:31] <Vespoli> I guess I'll just reinstall and not fuck up in the first place
[07:31] <Sonny_Wertzik> bob2, what do you mean comma separated value?
[07:31] <StyXman> PShivers: mount them
[07:31] <ompaul> Vespoli, if your going to paste use paste.ubuntulinux.nl that is what it is there for
[07:31] <FallenOne> setite but i only use that for install but the other partitions i use for saving
[07:31] <silver_cpu> gerarcone, it will affect dvd playback, but not dvd ripping or avi playback, unless the avi player is designed to use accelleration from the video chipset
[07:31] <Vespoli> allright thanks StyXman
[07:31] <setite> bob2 - i did to the best of my knowledge... i said that i cant enable it and its not showing up... but it is loaded
[07:31] <Vespoli> sorry bob2 apokryphos and ompaul for being an ass -- see you guys later
[07:31] <PShivers> and where do I do that?
[07:31] <x[BrB] x> preference, administrations, & othes
[07:31] <bob2> Sonny_Wertzik: that's what a CSV file is
[07:32] <bob2> setite: sudo modprobe prism2_usb prism2_doreset=1
[07:32] <x[BrB] x> pls. be patient with me styman :)
[07:32] <bob2> setite: then show the end of dmesg
[07:32] <Shin_Gouki> Hello and WOHA lots of writing here, who is willing to go into private discussion with me? i Have some question regarding ubuntu? plz someone :)
[07:32] <FallenOne> setite : i need to make it primary or logical (the partition)
[07:32] <Sonny_Wertzik> bob2, hehe not CSV....i meant CVS hehehe
[07:32] <setite> ok FallenOne ive used 2.4 gigs exactly so far
[07:32] <gerarcone> silver_cpu: i can't view avi files with totem (i can listen only the audio) do you think this is a problem of video driver?
[07:32] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: I can't cope with this channel pace
[07:32] <silver_cpu> setite, i know that video accelleration gives more people trouble than, say, sound or ethernet adapters, or even scsi adapters
[07:32] <StyXman> too fast
[07:32] <ompaul> !tell Shin_Gouki about ask
[07:32] <setite> you can install on less... easily
[07:32] <StyXman> or I'm getting old
[07:32] <deFrysk> Shin_Gouki, no privating
[07:32] <ompaul> !tell Shin_Gouki about ubotu
[07:32] <x[BrB] x> lol
[07:32] <silver_cpu> gerarcone, no, i think it has more to do with having the codec installed
[07:33] <Shin_Gouki> oh plz no bot ^^
[07:33] <silver_cpu> is it in the .avi format?
[07:33] <setite> silver_cpu: it can hardly be considered trouble... i mean two lines in console...
[07:33] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: you can laugh, but you'll be old sometine too! :-P
[07:33] <gerarcone> silver_cpu: ok, it's better this
[07:33] <silver_cpu> setite, mind telling me those two lines?
[07:33] <deFrysk> Shin_Gouki, only ubotu privates
[07:33] <setite> !tell silver_cpu about nvidia
[07:33] <Shin_Gouki> because the channel it self is too fast i sak for private messaging, who can help me?
[07:33] <x[BrB] x> i think im too old to learn this things
[07:33] <x[BrB] x> i find it too complicated
[07:33] <x[BrB] x> :(
[07:34] <silver_cpu> thanks, setite
[07:34] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: it's simple once you get it
[07:34] <StyXman> like anything
[07:34] <x[BrB] x> so back to my question
[07:34] <x[BrB] x> hehe
[07:34] <setite> eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[07:34] <FallenOne> setite sorry for the double asking but primary or logical partition?
[07:34] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: gimme a sec
[07:34] <setite> eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[07:34] <gerarcone> silver_cpu: thank you very much for your help, you're kind!
[07:34] <x[BrB] x> ok
[07:34] <slack7384> x[BrB] x: who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks? ;-)
[07:34] <setite> damn paste... thats what i get bob...
[07:34] <silver_cpu> gerarcone, np
[07:34] <Shin_Gouki> silver cpu can we do a short private chat? so i may aks some ubuntu questions?
[07:34] <PShivers> StyXman PShivers: mount them:::: where and how do I do that?
[07:34] <silver_cpu> i know very little, but i help where i can
[07:35] <gerarcone> silver_cpu: what time is it there?
[07:35] <bob2> Sonny_Wertzik: thats a revision control system
[07:35] <silver_cpu> about 1:35pm
[07:35] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, the reason for using the bot is this, (A) the answers are well thought out and the detail you need is there (B) you did not ask - so you have to be told about ask as you can see its a lot of data (C) you needed to be told that it was a bot and I don't do pm without good reason like its going to take an age to do something so ask your question
[07:35] <x[BrB] x> well its nice to have this channel who can help us
[07:35] <setite> FallenOne: not 100% sure on that... i believe it comes up as a primary but like i said... i always let linux install on unallocated freespace allowing it to set its own swap size and all that
[07:36] <Furio_G> I just downloaded jre and jdk. converted to .deb and dpkg -i. I can't find java/javac though. Any idea what I did wrong?
[07:36] <FallenOne> setite i'll take ur advice btw i give u a star for good answers :D
[07:36] <fooboy> how can i force wget and apt-get to use a proxy?
[07:36] <Shin_Gouki> ompaul : the problem is i am sure that some parts of my questions MAY be answerd from the bot, but as they will fast ( 2nd 3rd question) go behind a scipt compr. i need a human , just for about 5 mins :)
[07:36] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, so Ask your question how do you if silver_cpu knows what you need to know - just get on with asking please - then someone who does know the answer can choose to help
[07:36] <gerarcone> silver_cpu: usa, right?
[07:36] <setite> star? ok whatever that is.. good luck
[07:36] <bob2> fooboy: a) silly, b) man wget, man apt.conf
[07:36] <setite> bob2 -eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[07:36] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, ask here  this is what (A) is about
[07:36] <StyXman> PShivers: x[BrB] x has the same problem
[07:36] <silver_cpu> gerarcone, sure, in tennessee
[07:36] <Sonny_Wertzik> bob2,  ty
[07:36] <StyXman> PShivers: see our conversation
[07:36] <silver_cpu> setite, this is so easy...i feel stupid :P
[07:36] <pundai> hey anyone notice that ntp.ubuntu is down
[07:37] <StyXman> s/see/read/
[07:37] <silver_cpu> wish i'd known about this earlier
[07:37] <FallenOne> setite i mean like my respect for your good answers :D
[07:37] <pundai> or i can't sync anymore
[07:37] <silver_cpu> brb folks
[07:37] <setite> silver_cpu: im surprised no one gave you the answer before....
[07:37] <slack7384> pundai - yeah, its down all right............
[07:37] <xark> pundai: Is that what causes the NTP error on boot?
[07:37] <silver_cpu> nope, i just had to google it
[07:37] <silver_cpu> brb
[07:37] <gerarcone> silver_cpu: beh, greetings from italy, where is time for dinner :p
[07:37] <fooboy> bob2, Thanks
[07:37] <bob2> setite: no, lots more lines in #flood
[07:37] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: I'm installing nautilus now, so be patient (will take about 10 mins)
[07:37] <setite> you want the whole dmesg
[07:37] <setite> ok
[07:38] <x[BrB] x> ok
[07:38] <bob2> setite: ifconfig -a
[07:38] <pundai> slack7384, k thanks
[07:38] <pundai> xark, thats what im assuming
[07:38] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, we have seen lots of good and bad questions and to keep the answers of good quality they should be in channel - there may be a quick answer so as I said ask
[07:38] <slack7384> pundai: It seems to fail the tests i've put it through (ntp)
[07:38] <x[BrB] x> im willing to wait even though its past 1am here
[07:38] <x[BrB] x> hehehe
[07:39] <Shin_Gouki> ok if i ll ask 3 good questions , am i then worthy of private discussion?
[07:39] <setite> oooh i like that command... maybe my card is working now
[07:39] <ompaul> ask the first
[07:39] <regeya> 
[07:39] <setite> !wifi
[07:39] <ubotu> it has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[07:39] <Shin_Gouki> why has ubuntu better mono support than debian?
[07:39] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: it doesn't
[07:39] <Shin_Gouki> oh , i see
[07:39] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: ah, soryy, it' s 14:39 here
[07:39] <regeya> is that a bad thing, Shin_Gouki? *wink* (agree with bob2)
[07:39] <pundai> man the driver for my wireless card sucks
[07:40] <datapharmer> hi there... does anyone hear know about the Tascam US-122 USB audio device?
[07:40] <pundai> does ndiswrapper work with wireless-tools
[07:40] <datapharmer> I am trying to find out if it is possible to make it work with ubuntu
[07:40] <Shin_Gouki> regarding general securty updates of the system does ubuntu have a centralized GUI to perfrom all necessary taks?
[07:40] <pundai> Shin_Gouki, synaptic?
[07:40] <setite> bob2 - must i disable all my other devices to set it up like the wiki says... i plan to use the adapter  in ad hoc
[07:40] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, yes
[07:40] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: sure, just like Debian does
[07:41] <pundai> Shin_Gouki, i also get a nice system tray icon when something needs to be updated
[07:41] <setite> on ifup wlan0 i get Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0
[07:41] <lala2006> Hello
[07:41] <ompaul> pundai, that is a *very nice icon* please :)
[07:41] <pundai> which is weird because gaim is at 1.5.0 in the real world and at ubuntu its 1.1.4
[07:41] <x[BrB] x> anyways... just want to ask hows the create cd here... is it good as nero??
[07:41] <pundai> ompaul, hehe
[07:41] <pundai> k3b dude
[07:41] <pundai> > *
[07:41] <lala2006> k3b rocks
[07:41] <regeya> datapharmer, http://www.google.com/search?hs=6U2&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aunofficial&q=+Tascam+US-122+alsa&btnG=Search
[07:41] <setite> yes, yes it does
[07:41] <regeya> whoops
[07:41] <lala2006> I like its easy to use interface
[07:42] <Shin_Gouki> once finished the installation how much effort is need to back up the complete system / system configuration?
[07:42] <datapharmer> thanks!
[07:42] <bob2> setite: bear in mind it may not actually support ad-hoc at all
[07:42] <Shin_Gouki> effort in time and disk space
[07:42] <setite> only thing i dont know about k3b is the name... but if i understood it i may... i think Nero Burning ROM(e) is cool
[07:42] <bob2> setite: yes, ifup is only for things you've configured in /etc/network/interfaces
[07:42] <regeya> Shin_Gouki, you could use a piece of software such as mondo, I suppose; if you look on ubuntuforums.org there are a number of backup solutions mentioned
[07:42] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: k3b, blind folded
[07:42] <lala2006> I have installed ubuntu linux hoary hedgehog on my machine and it works fine other than the sound configuration
[07:42] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: same as on any other linux OS; it depends on what tool you use
[07:42] <setite> bob2 - linux wont or the device... i know the adapter supports ad hoc mode
[07:43] <bob2> setite: the drivers
[07:43] <bob2> setite: usb devices tend to be shit in a number of way
[07:43] <x[BrB] x> what do your mean styxman?
[07:43] <Shin_Gouki> @ ompaul do i gained the right for private questions? i dont want to create here in main channel more then ncecesarry text?
[07:43] <regeya> that reminds me; I need to start transcoding/burning dv stuff to dvd
[07:43] <setite> oh man i hope not... im seriously trying to find a way out of windows... and this will be a serious crutch... but i think it must be possible because there are xlink kai people on linux
[07:44] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: erm, nothing, just k3b... for burning cd/dvd's
[07:44] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: please stop trying to weasel out of the channe, it's really quite annoying
[07:44] <x[BrB] x> do i need to download that?
[07:44] <bob2> and counterproductive, since you'll get worse help
[07:44] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, I could not have answered your mono quesiton, you can pm me but tbh I prefer the channel
[07:44] <Shin_Gouki> :/ i dont want to spam here either ? so what to so?
[07:44] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: how is asking question here "spam"?
[07:45] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, lots of info goes into paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[07:45] <silver_cpu> setite: well, it looks like everything worked out fine ;)
[07:45] <setite> cool silver_cpu
[07:45] <Shin_Gouki> here are to many people talking about to many subjects making discussion ineffective and uncecesarry complicated
[07:45] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: if you have a lot of text, use the pastebin as in the /topic
[07:45] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: no, it's not
[07:45] <Shin_Gouki> what is pastebin? a board?
[07:45] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: you get used to it
[07:45] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: if you have trouble following, then you need to read faster or filter out things you don't care about it
[07:45] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki:  /topic
[07:45] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, look at it
[07:45] <Shin_Gouki> ok then ill simply go ahead with my questions
[07:46] <Shin_Gouki> ( if u dont mind ;) )
[07:46] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: just get on with it, ffs
[07:46] <jc-denton> how do i get sound in firefox with flash
[07:46] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: now
[07:46] <silver_cpu> what's a good way to test the 3d accel? i tried glxgears, but it won't give me a fps count
[07:46] <StyXman> press <alt>+<f2>
[07:46] <ompaul> Shin_Gouki, we have told you many times we don't mind, just do the thing - you are annoying by debating the way an irc help channel does what it does
[07:46] <StyXman> run command
[07:47] <StyXman> put ``nautilus'' and hit <enter>
[07:47] <Shin_Gouki> ill have a USB DVD Burner how can i confirm if it works on ubuntuu , which burn software (with GUI) is recom. for ubuntu in general?
[07:47] <StyXman> that gets you the file manager
[07:47] <StyXman> at the left there are three icons
[07:47] <StyXman> one reads filesystem
[07:47] <x[BrB] x> ok
[07:48] <StyXman> double click it, and then double click on media in the icons at the right
[07:48] <StyXman> there should be another dir for each partition
[07:48] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: plug it in
[07:49] <ompaul> StyXman, can you use the users name so I can filter ot please
[07:49] <StyXman> ompaul: ok, sorry
[07:49] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: a window  will pop up; drag stuff to it, select burn, all done
[07:49] <x[BrB] x> where will i put nautilus??
[07:49] <Shin_Gouki> ok thx for answr which Burn Software with GUI u can recommend?
[07:49] <silver_cpu> setite: any idea how i should test this vid card out? glxheads gives me good info, but what should i run to get an fps count?
[07:49] <setite> glx-gears
[07:49] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: when you pressed atl_f2 a little window must have poped out
[07:49] <silver_cpu> glxgears doesn't seem to want to give me a readout
[07:49] <setite> you need a 500+
[07:49] <x[BrB] x> ok got it
[07:50] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: the file manager can do data as bob2 says
[07:50] <setite> 500+ means you have successful 3d acceleration
[07:50] <silver_cpu> yeah, but i don't get a fps reading from glxgears, for some reason
[07:50] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 , ok thx for answr which Burn Software with GUI u can recommend?
[07:50] <setite> glxgears no - sorry
[07:50] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: for a separate burner app, try gnomebaker or graveman
[07:50] <setite> run it in console... it will report the fps in consol ever few seconds
[07:50] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: or k3b
[07:50] <Shin_Gouki> thank u
[07:50] <silver_cpu> yes, i'm running it in console :)
[07:50] <setite> ever 5 seconds to be precise
[07:50] <x[BrB] x> a file browser opened
[07:50] <silver_cpu> it's what i've always done
[07:50] <silver_cpu> but it doesn't read out anything this time, for no particular reason
[07:51] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: the file manager is a perfectly good dvd burner
[07:51] <setite> look at the consol... it will show you the fps average every 5 seconds
[07:51] <silver_cpu> it's the weirdest tihng
[07:51] <bob2> setite: not in breezy
[07:51] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: at the left there are three icons, one reads filesystem, double click it, and then double click on media in the icons at the right.
[07:51] <bob2> it was disabled to stop peopel doing that
[07:51] <silver_cpu> bob2: what should i use, then?
[07:51] <setite> damn my fps when from 12k to 14k to 21k.. woot
[07:51] <Shin_Gouki> bob2 : does it support UDF?
[07:51] <setite> breezy is evil! haha
[07:51] <bob2> setite: glxinfo
[07:51] <silver_cpu> nah, i'm all about being cutting-edge
[07:51] <bob2> silver_cpu: glxinfo
[07:51] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: yes
[07:52] <atila_sendil> hi all: how do I : CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG needs to be enabled in the kernel. ???
[07:52] <setite> in breeeezy the nvidia drivers are screwy..t ahts why i went back to hoary
[07:52] <bob2> atila_sendil: why are you compiling your own kernel?
[07:52] <silver_cpu> bob2: thanks, that worlked
[07:52] <silver_cpu> worked
[07:52] <bob2> atila_sendil: and if you're net, you need to tell us what you're trying to do
[07:52] <x[BrB] x> i cant see the file system icon ;(
[07:52] <Shin_Gouki> what is the best media player for ubuntu , how are windows codecs handled?
[07:53] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: isnt' nautilus split in two?
[07:53] <setite> !w32
[07:53] <ubotu> setite: Are you on ritalin?
[07:53] <atila_sendil> bob2 > I am trying to install the graphic  drivers for my EPIA-M board
[07:53] <setite> !w32codecs
[07:53] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repository. AMD64? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 Legal issues: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:53] <silver_cpu> btw, does anyone know of a way to sync a pocketpc pda to linux? say, with evolution or kmail or something?
[07:53] <bob2> Shin_Gouki: there's obviously no "best"
[07:53] <Shin_Gouki> thx @setite :)
[07:53] <setite> np
[07:53] <Shin_Gouki> ok then what U use? :P
[07:53] <bob2> that factoid is wrong
[07:53] <x[BrB] x> ok.. when u cleck computer theres a filesystem
[07:53] <askMEforUBIFONE> MPlayer
[07:53] <atila_sendil> bob2, the unichrome drivers to be specific
[07:53] <setite> bob2 - come on.. we all know that Kaffeine is
[07:53] <bob2> mplayer
[07:53] <pundai> hey whats the deal with mplayer, i can't even play anything
[07:53] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: ok, double click it
[07:53] <setite> haha jp... dont start the Khate
[07:53] <bob2> kaffeine requires kdelibs
[07:53] <pundai> i have to use gxine
[07:53] <x[BrB] x> ok..
[07:53] <bob2> ergo, it cannot be the "best" at anything
[07:54] <greedyb> I think today I'm going to finnaly bite the bullet and install ubuntu and say good bye windows
[07:54] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: you can use any nuber of media players - it's up to you which you like
[07:54] <x[BrB] x> lots of folders appeears
[07:54] <bob2> pundai: you need to be more vague
[07:54] <Shin_Gouki> i would like to see some MPC thing for linux..
[07:54] <bob2> pundai: e.g. not tell us what error you get
[07:54] <setite> pfft... its the best at dvd playback...
[07:54] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: unoe of them is media
[07:54] <Shin_Gouki> no its up to what i want to watch ^^
[07:54] <setite> actually in reality.. tehy all suck in some way...
[07:54] <Shin_Gouki> like: divx, H.264... etc..
[07:54] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: double click in media
[07:54] <x[BrB] x> i've seen it
[07:54] <Shin_Gouki> kv with subtitles .. etc...
[07:54] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: that is about codecs more than players
[07:54] <x[BrB] x> i have 3 icons
[07:55] <x[BrB] x> cdrom and traveldrive
[07:55] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: one of them might be your other disk
[07:55] <thoreauputic> Shin_Gouki: some people like mplayer, some totem-xine etc etc
[07:55] <askMEforUBIFONE> If you encode video to other formats, MPlayer is a must
[07:55] <atila_sendil> bob2, I am trying to run the script on : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=37025&page=3&pp=10
[07:56] <markuman> hi, there is a how to for making my own ubuntu live cd. https://wiki.ubuntu.com//LiveCDCustomizationHowTo
[07:56] <markuman> but what is if i want an installable iso
[07:56] <markuman> ???
[07:56] <x[BrB] x> it shows 2 cdrom :(
[07:56] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: hmm
[07:56] <bob2> YAY FORUMS
[07:56] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: you might need to add you other partitions to /etc/fstab
[07:57] <bob2> I wonder if I could configure my irc client to /ignore anyone who pastes a ubuntuforums url without a curse word
[07:57] <PShivers> StyXman in my media folder it is 3 CDrooms and 2 floppys :S
[07:57] <atila_sendil> bob2, yep the forums :-) everything is fine except that point about kernel enabling
[07:57] <x[BrB] x> how will i do that?
[07:57] <satafterh> I have tried I dont know how many souces to try to get w32codec, would someone here have it to send me, you would be a life saver
[07:57] <thoreauputic> hah @ bob2 :D
[07:57] <setite> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
iface wlan0 inet dhcp</body>
[07:57] <bob2> atila_sendil: their script is broken, yo ucan check yourself
[07:57] <setite> hey bob2 - in the wiki i see where it shows adding it to teh /etc/network/interfaces but it talks abotu bringing it up instead of eth0... i dont want to do that... and i dont want it to autoconnect.. i just want it enabled and ready to go when i need it... so do i just add iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[07:57] <pundai> bob2, i can't be any more vague
[07:57] <bob2> atila_sendil: grep CMPX /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[07:57] <setite> i hate how it will paste a line when im still typing another
[07:57] <x[BrB] x> in all i have 2 hdd here
[07:58] <bob2> atila_sendil: oh, assuming you installed linux-686, that is
[07:58] <StyXman> PShivers: you might need to do that too
[07:58] <x[BrB] x> my 1st hdd is partitioned into two drives
[07:58] <bob2> setite: after reading man 5 interfaces to find out how to do adhoc, yes
[07:58] <atila_sendil> bob2 : I am not so far into linux yet to see if a script is broken :-)
[07:58] <askMEforUBIFONE> satafterth: just download them from MPlayers page
[07:58] <x[BrB] x> and the 2nd is a 20gig
[07:58] <atila_sendil> bob2, I have linux-386
[07:58] <bob2> atila_sendil: install linux-686, reboot, try again
[07:59] <satafterh> ya tried that to all it said was to put them in the codec dir and that didnt work
[07:59] <thoreauputic> atila_sendil: unless told otherwise, assume random scripts are broken (safety first)
[07:59] <thoreauputic> ;)
[07:59] <atila_sendil> bob2, OK ty; and what is grep CMPX /boot/config-$(uname -r) _
[07:59] <askMEforUBIFONE> satafterth: then you didnt do it correctly
[07:59] <StyXman> x[BrB] x, PShivers: see this link, the second post
[07:59] <StyXman> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-289.html
[07:59] <bob2> atila_sendil: nevermind
[07:59] <setite> whoa.. didnt understand that... but ok.. google time
[07:59] <atila_sendil> thoreauputic, well I can reinstall the machine this is the TV box :-) still ty
[08:00] <x[BrB] x> k
[08:00] <sahak> Hi
[08:00] <atila_sendil> thoreauputic, I will not try such things on my normal machine, at least yet
[08:00] <askMEforUBIFONE> satafterth: http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt
[08:00] <musashiden> can anyone tell me after i get libtool from cvs, whats the command to compile it and install it?
[08:01] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: you might need to do something similar, not exactly the same
[08:01] <sahak> When I hibernate Ubuntu 5.10, my laptop hibernates and turns off. When I boot it up agains, it starts booting from the beginning instead of resuming, and the swap partition is disabled. It is a Thinkpad X40. What could be the problem?
[08:01] <mindframe> does anyone know why my flash plugin for firefox isnt working? swf_play is running but theres just nothing showing up in the browser.
[08:01] <bob2> musashiden: what on earth are you doing?
[08:01] <hondje> when you upgrade to breezy but keep the same /home, are gnome badnesses qualified as bugs?
[08:01] <thoreauputic> atila_sendil: my general rule is : if I don't understand it and it isn't recommended by someone I trust, I don't do it :)
[08:01] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: /dev/hda1 must be replaced with the partition you wan to access
[08:01] <musashiden> bob2: iam trying to get libtool
[08:01] <bob2> sahak: suspend to disk is broken on my x40, too; is there an open bug yet?
[08:01] <bob2> musashiden: which is already in ubuntu
[08:02] <bob2> musashiden: why are you getting it fro mcvs?
[08:02] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: and /windows can be any directory of your choice
[08:02] <musashiden> bob2: but when iam trying to compile gaim, it says it needs libtool
[08:02] <sahak> bob2, I don't know. I am very new to Ubuntu
[08:02] <atila_sendil> thoreauputic, same here :-)
[08:02] <bob2> sahak: bugzilla.ubuntu.com, component linux, I'd think
[08:02] <sahak> bob2, do you know of any workarounds?
[08:02] <durt> musahiden, you dont need to compile either libtool or gaim
[08:02] <musashiden> bob2: so i dont think i have it
[08:02] <bob2> sahak: acpi sleep (suspend-to-ram) appears to work flawlessly
[08:02] <bob2> musashiden: gaim is also in ubuntu
[08:03] <x[BrB] x> where will i put this >>>>> /dev/hda1
[08:03] <musashiden> bob2: i dont see it anywhere
[08:04] <bob2> musashiden: it's installed by default, even
[08:04] <bob2> musashiden: applications -> internet
[08:04] <atila_sendil> see you around people; now installing linux-686 bye for now. ty again
[08:04] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: in the /etc/fstab file
[08:04] <musashiden> bob2: nope, is not there
[08:04] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: you will need to edit it as root
[08:04] <bob2> musashiden: then you removed it or did a non-default install
[08:04] <x[BrB] x> gosh... im lost huhuhu
[08:04] <HiddenFly> is there anyways to make my every button usable on my logitech mx310 mouse? as not there only buttons mouse1, mouse2 and mouse3 (wheel) do work and mouse4 and mouse5 are disabled
[08:05] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: most likely, opening a terminal, and `sudo <editor>'
[08:05] <hondje> I have two entries in System -> Preferences for screensaver..one the old one, one seems to be new. This is on an install of breezy by CD, but same /home as hoary had. What pkg would I file a bug under?
[08:05] <musashiden> bob2: i have kubuntu
[08:05] <setite> dude man pages are evil
[08:05] <StyXman> erm
[08:05] <bob2> musashiden: shock
[08:05] <bob2> musashiden: horror
[08:05] <bob2> musashiden: install the gaim package then
[08:05] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[08:05] <bob2> musashiden: which won't appear on the menu, so go to #kubuntu
[08:05] <mindframe> does anyone know why my flash plugin for firefox isnt working? swf_play is running but theres just nothing showing up in the browser.
[08:06] <x[BrB] x> how will i go there?
[08:06] <x[BrB] x> where will i type it?
[08:06] <gm78> Hey all, I have a quick question. I compiled my own 2.6.13.1 kernel the other day, and the source was in /usr/src when I compiled it. the folder /lib/modules/2.6.13.1 is way bigger than the ones for precompiled kernels. does this mean that all of the kernel headers are in the /lib/modules folder and that I can remove the original source?
[08:06] <musashiden> bob2: they told me to come here
[08:06] <bob2> musashiden: good for them
[08:06] <bob2> musashiden: now install the gaim package, and then youre done
[08:06] <musashiden> bob2: and where is it?
[08:06] <bob2> gm78: what was missing from the ubuntu kernel?
[08:06] <bob2> musashiden: where is *what*?
[08:07] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: in a terminal
[08:07] <robitaille> hondje,  same here: 2 screensaver options in my preference menu as well
[08:07] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: open a terminal
[08:07] <x[BrB] x> how can i open a terminal?
[08:07] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: there must be a screen icon somewhere
[08:07] <hondje> robitaille: Nice, did you upgrade from hoary too, or clean install?
[08:07] <musashiden> bob2: the gaim package
[08:07] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: sorry, I don't use gnome, I can't tell from memory now :(
[08:07] <bob2> musashiden: ...
[08:07] <gm78> bob2, it was crashing on me, whereas other distros werent. but i like ubuntu, so i tried compiling my own kernel and it worked
[08:07] <bob2> musashiden: how do you normally install packages?
[08:07] <bob2> gm78: please file a bug so it can be fixed
[08:07] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: look for it in the menu
[08:08] <musashiden> bob2: yah, whatever...just tell me
[08:08] <x[BrB] x> menu editor/?
[08:08] <bob2> musashiden: wtf
[08:08] <durt> apt-get install gaim?
[08:08] <bob2> musashiden: answer the question
[08:08] <PShivers> xbrbx >programs>system tools
[08:08] <musashiden> bob2: just tell me where can i get the Gaim packages from
[08:08] <robitaille> hondje,  clean install but from 2 weeks ago.  I believe the problem comes from the fact that both xscreensaver and gnome-screensaver are installed on my machine
[08:08] <bob2> it's a kde user
[08:08] <bob2> musashiden: it's in ubuntu
[08:08] <gm78> bob2, yeah, im going to. i dont know what to file though, it just randomly locked up. filing a bug and then people getting mad at u cause u dont provide enough info isnt very much fun. anyways, do u know the answer to my question?
[08:08] <bob2> musashiden: you use whatever package management tool you normally use
[08:08] <hondje> robitaille: oh, that'd make sense
[08:08] <saik0> Does anybody know a good barebones PC to build a simple near-kiosk like desktop
[08:09] <bob2> musashiden: if you have no idea, #kubuntu
[08:09] <bob2> also, they are pretty useless if they had to tell you to come here to instal lgaim
[08:09] <x[BrB] x> application\system tools
[08:09] <x[BrB] x> :)
[08:09] <robitaille> hondje,  I have now removed xscreensaver and the menu entry is gone.  ubuntu-desktop depends on gnome-screensaver so I' keeping that one
[08:09] <gm78> bob2, *randomly locks up i mean
[08:09] <x[BrB] x> is that right?
[08:09] <Snoblower> how do you pronounce ubuntu?
[08:09] <hondje> robitaille: I'm looking and seeing I have both, too
[08:10] <bob2> Snoblower: oo-buun-too
[08:10] <hondje> But now I know why, thanks man
[08:10] <ompaul> Snoblower, do a google for ubuntu jingle
[08:10] <jdermer> wuts a good p2p app for ubuntu
[08:10] <saik0> bob2, i thought it was oo-boon-too.
[08:10] <jdermer> im using gtk-gnutella but it sorta slowz
[08:10] <kemik> jdermer:  dc++
[08:10] <bob2> saik0: well, it's not the same "boon" as the word boon
[08:10] <jdermer> yea but with dc++ u gotta share a lot
[08:10] <jdermer> i got like nothing on here heh
[08:11] <durt> boom rhymes with coon
[08:11] <gm78> jdermer, Limewire
[08:11] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: again, I don't use gnome
[08:11] <ompaul> listen to Mark Shuttleworth on some interview somewhere and get the canonical way to say it
[08:11] <StyXman> x[BrB] x: I can't tell
[08:11] <PShivers> ok styxman I'm in the /etc/fstab section, what do I do now?
[08:11] <bob2> haha
[08:11] <bob2> boomtish
[08:11] <bob2> musashiden: if you have no idea, use kynaptic
[08:11] <jdermer> limewire isnt in apt
[08:11] <bob2> jdermer: of course
[08:11] <x[BrB] x> :(
[08:11] <gm78> jdermer, so? Download it from www.limewire.com
[08:12] <sahak> bob2, add comments to bug http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15745
[08:12] <x[BrB] x> is there anybody can help me how can i go to terminal ?
[08:12] <ompaul> bob2, thats a double tap on a base drum with a single snare and high hat :)
[08:12] <bob2> x[BrB] x: applications -> system -> terminal
[08:12] <gm78> bob2, the kernel bug was present in all distros running 2.6.10 or less, it has been fixed now in 2.6.11+ (I think it was a buggy driver) should i still file a bug report
[08:13] <jdermer> limewire needs java right ?
[08:13] <x[BrB] x> bob i cant see a work terminal :(
[08:13] <gm78> jdermer, yeah, java.sun.com
[08:13] <bob2> gm78: not if it works in breezy
[08:13] <regeya> indeed, limewire is easy to set up.
[08:13] <x[BrB] x> accesories
[08:13] <tibi> my tuner (kworld 878 , chipset bt878) doesn't work after boot, but if I "rmmod bt878" and "rmmod bttv" and after that I do "modprobe bttv card=78 tuner=23" all it's ok, what have I do to work after boot??
[08:13] <robitaille> x[BrB] x,  in breezy terminal is in Applications --- Accessories
[08:13] <bob2> x[BrB] x: alt-f2 xterm, then
[08:14] <x[BrB] x> ok thanks
[08:14] <regeya> I certainly hope limewire is more stable than eclipse.
[08:14] <gm78> bob2, well i havent tried breezy but im assuming it does, i have tried 2 distros with 2.6.11 or higher and compiled my own 2.6.13.1 kernel and they all work
[08:14] <x[BrB] x> styxman im in
[08:14] <x[BrB] x> hehe
[08:14] <x[BrB] x> thanks guys
[08:14] <slack7384> Could anyone tell me if the Kensington VideoCAM Web Cam works with Ubuntu?
[08:14] <gm78> regeya, eclipse not being stable probably isn't java's fault
[08:14] <bob2> slack7384: google can probably answer that for you, even if no one here can
[08:15] <regeya> you could also search the repos for 'gnutella'; limewire is a commercial gnutella client, after all
[08:15] <gm78> slack7384, if u google for it and linux, and get a bunch of newsgroup postings with people complaining it doesnt work for the first 5 pages in google, assume it doesnt work ;)
[08:15] <net_benjo> hello, does anybody have experience with ipw2200 and WPA wireless?
[08:15] <gm78> regeya, Limewire is GPL
[08:15] <jdermer> k wow limewire was easy
[08:15] <x[BrB] x> StyXman im in
[08:15] <regeya> gm78: when you consider that I can run eclipse with no worries on other platforms, no I don't blame java, nor do I blame the eclipse team. :>
[08:15] <hondje> robitaille: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15746 If you could confirm that for me :)
[08:16] <jdermer> i got the newest beta
[08:16] <Rondom> net_benjo, did you get the driver itself working?
[08:16] <bob2> net_benjo: xsupplicant didn't work?
[08:16] <jdermer> all i had to do was run the .sh
[08:16] <PShivers> ok, What to do when I'm in the /etc/fstab?
[08:16] <gm78> regeya, hmmm...thats weird
[08:16] <jdermer> im not getting any search results th
[08:16] <jdermer> tho *
[08:16] <gm78> jdermer, im assuming u had java installed already?
[08:16] <Gnonthgol> Is there a simpler draxing program then GIMP?
[08:16] <ppd> hello. has anyone an idea how to get a sgh e700 to work with ubuntu?
[08:17] <gm78> Gnonthgol, never tried it, not sure if it will fit ur needs or not, but give inkscape a shot
[08:17] <net_benjo> ok...i think I have the driver working.....I followed a HOWTO from ubuntuforums..and I though i did everything correct...but my wireless is not working still...
[08:17] <jdermer> gm78, i guess i did heh
[08:17] <mindframe> does anyone know why my flash plugin for firefox isnt working? swf_play is running but theres just nothing showing up in the browser.
[08:17] <net_benjo> bob2: i have installed wpasupplicant and configured it..but still nothing...
[08:17] <gm78> mindframe, did u copy both plugin files into the plugins directory
[08:17] <Rondom> net_benjo, do you see a wireless device in network config?
[08:17] <gm78> ?
[08:17] <Gnonthgol> gm78: ok
[08:18] <Rondom> or at the terminal?
[08:18] <gm78> Gnonthgol, i would suggest compiling the latest version, i read an article that it has a lot of improvements over the older ones
[08:18] <Gorth> hey guys!!
[08:18] <alexandros> can someone help me, I can't connect Sancho to mldonket_server it keeps saying server in use
[08:18] <net_benjo> Rondom: yes I do...but something its not configured correctly or something..
[08:18] <mindframe> gm78, i used the libflash-mozplugin.  should i install from macromedias source or whatever?
[08:18] <Gorth> is there a way to prevent the bar at the bottom from grouping windows?
[08:18] <x[BrB] x> can anybody help me how can i access to my other hdd?
[08:18] <Gorth> it can get annoying sometimes :(
[08:18] <mindframe> *libflash-mozplugin package
[08:18] <gm78> Gnonthgol, they also have an autopackage build on their website
[08:19] <gm78> mindframe, ok, which plugins folder did u copy the files to (eg. /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins)
[08:19] <Woxxy> hey, i installed firestarter and would like to change the rules without using the gui. anyone know how?
[08:19] <hondje> with the iptables command :)
[08:19] <durt> gnonthgol, jdraw is simple, i use dia
[08:19] <gm78> Woxxy, firestarter.sourceforge.net they have guides there
[08:20] <Woxxy> ta gm78
[08:20] <gm78> Woxxy, using iptables is probably easier...firestarter is just a gui frontend to iptables
[08:20] <Gorth> how do i make my panels not group windows??
[08:21] <bam_> is there really a need for a firewall and antivirus for linux?
[08:21] <mindframe> gm78, ive got libflash-mozplugin.so and libmozswfdec.so in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[08:21] <gm78> bam_, antivirus no...firewall is probably a good idea
[08:21] <Woxxy> gm78: how can i do that, then? where are the ip-tables located?
[08:21] <bam_> ok
[08:21] <hondje> bam_: sure, iptables is very useful, and antivirus for your mail server to protect the windows users
[08:21] <jdermer> i need some help
[08:21] <bam_> suggestions on an easy one?
[08:21] <gm78> Woxxy, lol, no clue, which is why i use the firestarter gui
[08:21] <jdermer> how do i change permissions on a file
[08:21] <Woxxy> hehe, i see :P
[08:21] <jdermer> i sorta goofed and i got a mp3 file that can only be read as root
[08:21] <hondje> Woxxy: iptables is called just by command
[08:22] <jdermer> i wanna make it for everyone
[08:22] <gm78> mindframe, the files should be called flashplayer.xpt and libflashplayer.so
[08:22] <hondje> Woxxy: iptables <stuffs>...what you do is make a script and run that, and it calls iptables
[08:22] <PShivers> how do I access my HDD's?
[08:22] <cute_bettong> whats with the 2 screensaver icons in System>prefrences in breezy?
[08:22] <gm78> bam_, firestarter
[08:22] <gm78> bam_, guarddog for kde
[08:22] <bam_> ok, cool
[08:22] <mindframe> gm78, ok im just gonna download from macromedia
[08:22] <hondje> cute_bettong: sudo apt-get remove xscreensaver :)
[08:22] <gm78> mindframe, alright...it includes an install script so it should be easy enough :)
[08:23] <jdermer> anyonw?
[08:23] <cute_bettong> i want the x screensaver though cause i can configure it
[08:23] <cute_bettong> the new one you can't
[08:23] <gm78> jdermer, change the permissions for the file
[08:23] <Woxxy> damn... cause i'm sitting on my windows-computer at home and am logged into my brother's windowscomputer at his place (he has no knowledge of computers) and am editing files on the linux-partition that way... pretty messy, but all i have
[08:23] <hondje> cute_bettong: then sudo apt-get remove the gnome screensaver
[08:23] <cute_bettong> ok cool
[08:23] <hondje> :)
[08:23] <jdermer> gm78, lol
[08:23] <cute_bettong> i was wondering if i could do that
[08:23] <cute_bettong> thanx man
[08:23] <jdermer> gm78, im a user
[08:23] <hondje> cute_bettong: : https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15746  if you can confirm that for me
[08:23] <jdermer> only root can change the perms
[08:24] <jdermer> i dont know the commands or anything
[08:24] <gm78> jdermer, u can do that in a filemanager or with the chmod command
[08:24] <LokeDK> After I installed kubuntu. the fonts in gnome is small.. and I can't change them
[08:24] <gm78> jdermer, right click and properties in konqueror or nautilus
[08:24] <bam_> any suggested standard configuration?
[08:24] <robitaille> hondje,  bug confirmed
[08:24] <bam_> for firestarter?
[08:24] <hondje> robitaille: awesome, thansk
[08:24] <jdermer> gm78, u cant do it in a file manager lol
[08:24] <gm78> LokeDK, X.org may not have detected the horiz and vert sync properties properly
[08:24] <jdermer> gm78, im not the owner of the file so how can i change permissions
[08:24] <tonhoo> LokeDK: have a channel for this #Kubuntu
[08:25] <gm78> jdermer, use the filemanager as root and change the owner then?
[08:25] <LokeDK> okay
[08:25] <rob_p> Woxxy:  If you're looking for a non gui based firewall for Ubuntu, try this one:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/27/1/   It was written for Ubuntu.  It has a simple configuration file and it supports NAT and port forwarding.
[08:25] <jdermer> how can i run the filemanager as root ?
[08:25] <CreaTure`> how to disconnect a user from my machine ?
[08:25] <gm78> jdermer sudo nautilus or sudo konqueror
[08:25] <CreaTure`> I'm the Roots
[08:25] <Woxxy> rob_p: thanks, but that's not what i was looking for
[08:25] <bam_> i wouldnt
[08:25] <CreaTure`> root *
[08:25] <rob_p> ok
[08:25] <bam_> use the console
[08:26] <setite> anyoen have their wifi adapter runnign ad-hoc
[08:26] <CreaTure`> and what's the command ?
[08:26] <x[BrB] x> sudo bash winmac_fstab
[08:26] <x[BrB] x>  <<<<< when i enter this , it says no such file or directory
[08:26] <lewiz> Erm, could anybody tell me how to add a default route with the busybox route tool?
[08:27] <ompaul> x[BrB] x, did you download the file and save it?
[08:27] <Gorth> guys!! please help :(
[08:27] <Gorth> this grouping windows deal is getting annoying :(
[08:27] <slack7384> Ok, never mind guys, I found the answer to my original question ;-)
[08:27] <setite> anyone know the names of the gnome application where you enable/disable network devices
[08:27] <x[BrB] x> nope
[08:27] <gm78> Gorth, which WM are you using?
[08:28] <ompaul> x[BrB] x, well there you go then :)
[08:28] <Gorth> gnome? (i'm not sure what the question is :()
[08:28] <Gorth> gm78^
 I'm the Roots <<<<< NO YOU'RE NOT!!!
[08:28] <x[BrB] x> well im going to ask you paul
[08:28] <x[BrB] x> hehe
[08:28] <cRTr> eahxaxh
[08:28] <J`> Sound in ubuntu is missing. I cannot hear anything althoug player is playing smth. Where can I dig for the problems cause?
[08:28] <ompaul> x[BrB] x, u talking to ompaul?
[08:28] <cRTr> kbd mistake :D
[08:28] <x[BrB] x> i have this problem... im a former windows user
[08:28] <x[BrB] x> yes
[08:29] <slack7384> setite: it's network-admin
[08:29] <x[BrB] x> ompaul
[08:29] <gm78> Gorth, im trying to find the option on mine...i cant find it, sorry
[08:29] <J`> + last time i used ubuntu everything was ok
[08:29] <setite> thanks slack7384
[08:29] <Gorth> it's ok gm78
[08:29] <ompaul> x[BrB] x, use my name at the start of a line so I can see that you are
[08:29] <Gorth> thanks for trying :D
[08:29] <x[BrB] x> ompaul
[08:29] <gm78> Gorth, i normally use XFCE...thats why..lol
[08:29] <x[BrB] x> ompaul.. ok sorry
[08:29] <setite> i dont see that
[08:29] <ompaul> x[BrB] x, stop that - wait please
[08:30] <durt> gm78, do you know how to turn off the system beeps in xfce?
[08:30] <markuman> gm78, ubuntu without gnome -> xubuntu ;-) #xubuntu
[08:30] <x[BrB] x> ompauli have this question.. im a previous windows user and i have a 80gig hdd which i partitioned into 2 drives
[08:30] <Belutz> x[BrB] x: can i help you?
[08:31] <x[BrB] x> ompaul yesterday i install ubuntu and i cant see my 2nd drive
[08:31] <PShivers> I have a similar problem Belutz
[08:31] <setite> hey slack7384 i dont see that package... do you know which repo its on
[08:31] <cRTr> i'm the root .. how could I disconect another user on using the machine at this time ?
[08:31] <Belutz> PShivers: what is it? maybe i could help
[08:31] <PShivers> Belutz, I installed ubnutu and I can't find my HDD's
[08:32] <x[BrB] x> belutz eversince i install ubuntu i cant see my 2nd drive
[08:32] <Belutz> PShivers: your windows partition you mean?
[08:32] <PShivers> yes
[08:32] <Belutz> !windowsdrives
[08:32] <ubotu> windowsdrives is, like, totally, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically
[08:32] <x[BrB] x> pshivers and i have the same problem
[08:32] <ompaul> x[BrB] x, I know I was looking for that web page you were referred to, now that I have it
[08:33] <Belutz> PShivers, x[BrB] x : use the script ubotu just told you
[08:33] <Gorth> GUYS I FOUND OUT HOW
[08:33] <Gorth> :D:D:
[08:33] <ompaul> x[BrB] x, click on File - Save As for that and it will offer a directory tell me what the name of that is
[08:33] <cRTr> i'm the root .. how could I disconect another user who's using the machine at this time ?
[08:33] <setite> anyoen know what i add to /etc/network/interfaces to just have the wlan0 load but not connect to anything...
[08:33] <LokeDK> sudo apt-get remove libartsc0 .. a lot of packages will be removed.. but one of them is ubuntu-desktop* .. what does it mean?
[08:33] <disasm> cRTr: how are they connected?
[08:34] <ompaul> Gorth, that is considered shouting, but on the other hand well done :)
[08:34] <shackan> why if a program crashes and I chose 'close' instead than 'restart', the program is restarted anyway ? this leads often to (boring) infinite loops
[08:34] <cRTr> don't know .. when type   w .. i see root (me) and user (some1 else)
[08:34] <thoreauputic> LokeDK: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage
[08:34] <x[BrB] x> ompaul winmac_fstab
[08:35] <LokeDK> thoreauputic, so nothing will happen if that gets removed?
[08:35] <thoreauputic> LokeDK: it is a kind of catch-all list of dependencies - so uninstalling it is OK
[08:35] <ompaul> x[BrB] x, I asked you where is it is offering you to save it that is the file name, tell you what just click save
[08:35] <thoreauputic> LokeDK: it won't take anything with it
[08:35] <ompaul> x[BrB] x, got a terminal open?
[08:36] <x[BrB] x> ompaul i save it at home
[08:36] <LokeDK> thoreauputic, oh okay.. because i only want to get rid of kubuntu
[08:36] <disasm> cRTr: ps aux|grep user
[08:36] <PShivers> ompaul , when I click that link I can't se nothing but a bunch of codes
[08:36] <Belutz> PShivers: copy those code
[08:36] <disasm> cRTr: that'll show you what users are running
[08:36] <lttropal> Quick question: Can you upgrade from Hoary to the Breezy preview by simply changing 'hoary' to 'breezy' in all the sources.list entries?
[08:36] <thoreauputic> cRTr: or just type 'users"
[08:37] <PShivers> belutz: and then
[08:37] <Belutz> PShivers: and paste it in a text editor, save it as winmac_fstab in your home dir
[08:37] <x[BrB] x> ompaul i have a terminal open already
[08:37] <robitaille> lttropal,  yes
[08:37] <ompaul> x[BrB] x, ls -l winmac* and does it tell that there is such a file entry?
[08:37] <annex> When I run using Xinerama versus a single video card Xorg is slower and uses about 20-30% more cpu when doing things like resizing a window or scrolling in firefox.  Even when I'm doing it on the same video card as I use without xinerama.  How can I prevent the slowdown?
[08:38] <x[BrB] x> ompaul >>>-rw-r--r--  1 patrick patrick 4713 2005-09-19 02:34 winmac_fstab
[08:38] <setite> can someone with wifi let me see their /etc/network/interfaces so i can see what im doing wrong.. remove pass information first
[08:39] <Belutz> x[BrB] x: type in your terminal "sudo sh ./winmac_fstab" (without the quote)
[08:39] <ompaul> x[BrB] x, cool, now please type the following>> sudo  bash winmac_fstab
[08:39] <Belutz> x[BrB] x: follow what ompaul just told you :D
[08:40] <x[BrB] x> Do you want to make the disk writable by all users instead? (y/n)
[08:40] <Belutz> PShivers: you should do the same
[08:40] <Belutz> x[BrB] x: yes
[08:40] <x[BrB] x> error: libhal_device_get_property_type: org.freedesktop.Hal.NoSuchDevice: No device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_3_5
[08:40] <x[BrB] x> :(
[08:40] <PShivers> right I't worked
[08:40] <setite> hey silver_cpu if your still here send me a pm.. i found your answer for changing the default dvd app
[08:40] <PShivers> thanks alot Belutz and ompaul
[08:41] <Belutz> PShivers: great
[08:41] <Belutz> PShivers: no worries
[08:41] <PShivers> gotta reboot now
[08:41] <x[BrB] x> yes!!!
[08:41] <Belutz> PShivers: don't have to reboot
[08:41] <x[BrB] x> thanks very much guys!!!
[08:41] <ompaul> x[BrB] x, what is with the yes!!!! ?
[08:41] <Belutz> too late
[08:42] <setite> how do you run an app sudo... from a run button
[08:42] <poningru> ompaul: napolean dynamite
[08:42] <Belutz> x[BrB] x: you could type "sudo mount -a" instead of reboot to mount it right away
[08:42] <ompaul> poningru, hu?
[08:42] <Belutz> setite: use gksudo appname
[08:42] <setite> what abotu kde
[08:42] <poningru> ompaul: its a movie
[08:42] <setite> poningru: no its a plague
[08:43] <Belutz> setite: it should be the same i guess? i don't know, i don't use kde
[08:43] <arpwatch> Hi guys, this isn't really ubuntu related but I was hoping someone could answer a question about PGP for me?  I lost my passphrase and I'm curious if there is any way whatsoever to retrieve it or at least the encrypted data...
[08:43] <setite> ok it works.. .b ut the app didnt load
[08:43] <setite> damnit this is the only thing i cant stand abotu kde
[08:43] <setite> i cant figure out how to run the settings apps
[08:44] <Belutz> setite: maybe you could ask in #kubuntu ?
[08:44] <setite> nah... nah that room isnt as helpful as i wish it was
[08:44] <ompaul> setite, all that on one line be nice to everyone else here the 479 of them :)
[08:44] <Belutz> ic
[08:44] <setite> i think its taco bell time... if i dont eat imma end up removing ubuntu again
[08:45] <tristanmike> mmmm, taco bell
[08:45] <bam_> yuk, taco hell
[08:45] <x[BrB] x> how can i run mp3 and movies
[08:45] <Belutz> i'm hungry
[08:45] <bam_> baja fresh, now thats good
[08:45] <Belutz> !tell x[BrB] x about restricted
[08:46] <mindframe> does hoary have a package for azureus and/or java jre ?
[08:46] <setite> is there a simpler wifi howto on the forum... because i cant find it
[08:46] <elvirolo> my printer (hp deskjet 710C) is detected and configured through kprinter, but it doesn't print jobs
[08:46] <bam_> hey anyone have a problem with beep not remembering its skin and location on desktop?
[08:46] <steve> this hotplug subsystem is killing me :( I am loading ubuntu now with params: noapic nolapic apic=off and it still hangs...is there no way to get it running on my laptop?
[08:46] <elvirolo> ideas anyone ?
[08:46] <Belutz> !tell mindframe about java
[08:47] <bam_> mindframe, you dont want azureus
[08:47] <Jae> Anyone installed Ubuntu to dual boot with Tiger
[08:47] <Jae> ?
[08:47] <bam_> big banwidth ho
[08:47] <bam_> hog
[08:47] <Jae> (Mac OS X 10.4)
[08:48] <poningru> steve: what laptop is it?
[08:48] <Whistler> hello
[08:48] <poningru> hi
[08:48] <Erix> hi
[08:48] <Belutz> PShivers: can you find your hdd?
[08:48] <PShivers> yep
[08:48] <steve> poningru: http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=5&l2=25&l3=0&model=533&modelmenu=1
[08:48] <Belutz> PShivers: great
[08:48] <gnubie> hi guys. i'd like to ask for advise about my routing problem
[08:49] <mindframe> bam_, i like it actually.  it does tend to use a fuckload of memory once your torrents are running for a while, but i like it.  what would you reccomend?
[08:49] <poningru> steve: do you have bluetooth on there?
[08:49] <ompaul> !tell mindframe about conduct
[08:49] <steve> yes
[08:49] <bam_> i just use bittornado, seems to work well
[08:49] <Belutz> steve: that's a nice laptop :)
[08:49] <steve> poningru: i dont need it though
[08:49] <x[BrB] x> totemmy movie player is not working
[08:49] <mindframe> sorry
[08:49] <gnubie> i setup a box with 1 lan card connected to my dsl and another to my lan
[08:49] <steve> poningru: yes :) brandnew :)
[08:50] <poningru> steve: ok let me see
[08:50] <poningru> I have to look around
[08:50] <bam_> bbl, lunch
[08:50] <steve> poningru: thx...i would really like to swap to linux (from windows)...desperatly...
[08:51] <bam_> steve, you'll never go back
[08:51] <bam_> :)
[08:51] <poningru> steve: shit its way too new dude
[08:51] <poningru> for any docs
[08:51] <steve> bam_: just if i get it up'n'running ;D
[08:51] <bam_> problems?
[08:51] <poningru> ok where does the install hang?
[08:51] <mkyb14> Question:  if i have a Radeon 7000 Video Card,  does the ati support in ubuntu support it?  is there a way to find out?
[08:51] <steve> poningru: shame, I'll have to sell it and buy an old one
[08:51] <mkyb14> it's made by FMI
[08:52] <Creart> where in ubuntu is it possible to install drivers and new hardware?
[08:52] <steve> poningru: on the hotplug subsystem
[08:52] <Jae> Hmm... Mac OS seems to use the Journaling system. Ext3?
[08:52] <PShivers> where can I find codecs for the totem media player?
[08:52] <steve> poningru: i tried the noapic options...still: hanging :(
[08:53] <poningru> steve: hmm let me see
[08:53] <|zaknafein|> err when i boot...all i get is colored bars
[08:53] <setite> ok i keep adding wlan0 to /etc/network/interfaces... all ive succeeded in doing is making the network interface configuration portion of boot take multiply longer
[08:53] <kevor> Is there something like the bar in OsX, with the enlarging icons?
[08:53] <Belutz> !tell PShivers about codecs
[08:54] <arachnist> kevor: ksmoothbar if you're using kde or some desklet to gdesklets
[08:54] <PShivers> cheers
[08:54] <kevor> arachnist: on gnome?
[08:54] <Belutz> !tell mkyb14 about ati
[08:54] <poningru> steve: we have to figure out a way to turn of hotplugging
[08:54] <arachnist> kevor: on gnome you'd want gdesklets ;)
[08:55] <Jae> Okay, maybe I can take this another direction... anyone know of how to dual-boot Ubuntu with a BSD-derivative?
[08:55] <|zaknafein|> hhhheeeellllpppp
[08:55] <kevor> k, thanks
[08:55] <poningru> I am assuming the install script has such a command
[08:55] <Jae> Basically, how I'd set up the partition table?
[08:55] <poningru> err boot
[08:55] <flodine> anyone running pentium 8290 chip with ubuntu
[08:55] <steve> poningru: I have no idea what it is for nyway...dont need that :)
[08:55] <Centaur5> My wireless card was setup by the installation and has the correct driver but when I try to connect it doesn't transmit anything. What can I do to fix that?
[08:55] <arachnist> Jae: it is possible to boot bsd's with grub
[08:55] <Jae> Hmm.
[08:55] <xark> Hello.  Does Ubuntu for X86_64 support traparent execution of 32-bit apps?  Do I need to install a special package?
[08:56] <arachnist> Jae: and bsd's like to be on the primary partitions (hda[1-4] )
[08:56] <xark> transparent*
[08:56] <sono> Friends anyone aware of a memory leakage problem in Breezy 32?
[08:56] <justaguy> howdie
[08:56] <sivang> hi all
[08:56] <jc-denton> how can i get flash in firefox working with esd?
[08:56] <mwr1515> memory leak?
[08:56] <sivang> anybody has an idea how to use evms to enlarge a volume ?
[08:57] <Jae> Well, let's say I had an ubuntu and a bsd core, and I wanted to give each 5 GB for their OS, but I wanted them to share the rest of the hard drive. How would I configure that?
[08:57] <|zaknafein|> make 3 partions
[08:57] <sono> yes mwr1515, firefox suddenly consuming much memory
[08:57] <mwr1515> hmm, i haven't had that problem
[08:57] <sivang> Jae: you need to define a common partition of a fs system that both can read, and use it as your /home storage
[08:58] <Jae> Okay. They both can read Ext3.
[08:58] <sivang> Jae: then it can be Ext3 ;-)
[08:58] <sivang> Jae: which is now even resizeable
[08:58] <Jae> So when I'm formatting with Ubuntu, should I just go ahead and give it a swap partition still?
[08:58] <sivang> Jae: IIRC the swap partitions are different, but generally yes
[08:59] <sono> ok mwr1515. thx.  Maybe we should check for a system/configuration specific issue that is causing this after a hoary->breezy update
[08:59] <arachnist> linux and freebsd can share swap partition
[08:59] <arachnist> but it requiers a little hacking
[08:59] <sivang> Jae: by format is, since if you find out that they both can use the same format, then you can use the same part for both
[08:59] <ludde_> anyone knows how to get "sun-j2re1.5" cant find it with apt-get..
[08:59] <Jae> Good.
[08:59] <poningru> steve: ubuntu did install correctly though right?
[08:59] <sivang> Jae: ah I think arachnist just said they can "-)
[08:59] <mwr1515> yeah, good idea sono
[09:00] <setite> bob2 how do i build linux-wlan-ng
[09:00] <steve> poningru: so far yes
[09:00] <poningru> hmm
[09:00] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I have an USB 2.0: how can i test its speed?
[09:01] <sivang> ludde_: do you have other repositories enabled then main?
[09:01] <sivang> ludde_: you should try and enable universe using synaptic, and then try again
[09:01] <steve> poningru: but it never loaded yet...I see the logo and the progress bar but on subsystem it stops
[09:01] <ludde_> sivang, allready done that :/
[09:02] <sivang> ludde_: ah I see, then there are additional reporsitories you might need to add manually, please consult :
[09:03] <apprentice> ban me
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[09:03] <apprentice> ban me
[09:03] <apprentice> v
[09:03] <apprentice> ban me
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[09:03] <solidgroove> hahaha
[09:03] <apprentice> ban me
[09:03] <apprentice> v
[09:03] <mwr1515> lol
[09:03] <apprentice> ban me
[09:03] <Belutz> !ops
[09:03] <ubotu> well, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[09:03] <apprentice> v
[09:03] <apprentice> ban me
[09:03] <solidgroove> no  spamm
[09:03] <sivang> ludde_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:03] <Earthen> I haveing a problem with my memory stick my install will not reconise it, but it works on my other ubuntu computer
[09:03] <sivang> ludde_: there are additional reporsitories mentioned there for installing java, see if it helps
[09:03] <apokryphos> errr
[09:03] <ludde_> sivang, i will take a look, thnx
[09:03] <Alex_BO> HALO?can anybody help me?
[09:04] <Belutz> apokryphos: errr
[09:04] <apokryphos> solidgroove: erm, sorry about that. Saw you in the line of fire.
[09:04] <sivang> ludde_: I believe this will be even more helpful - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[09:04] <arachnist> ok, c'ya
[09:04] <poningru> steve: dude looks like your lappy is just too new
[09:05] <poningru> I have no idea how to turn of hotplug
[09:05] <steve> poningru: thx...so no ubuntu for me :(
[09:05] <sivang> steve: what kind of laptop do you have?
[09:05] <steve> sivang: http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=5&l2=25&l3=0&model=533&modelmenu=1
[09:05] <setite> tux-mobil.org or tuxmobil.org for lappy help
[09:06] <mindframe> hrmm i enabled universe and multiverse and i still cant find the sun-j2re1.5 package
[09:06] <poningru> see you can add stuff to the blacklist of hotplug but you cannot do that without actually logging in to the machine
[09:06] <wasabi_> Anybody know if there's any way to make cron start something with a random offset?
[09:06] <setite> anyoen hav ewifi working on amd64
[09:06] <Silsabar> could someone tell me a backport(or whatever it is) where to find sun-j2re1.5 and w32codecs packages? :o
[09:06] <Earthen> anybody know how to fix USB flash memmory card
[09:06] <khermans> i am trying to build vpnc, the free Cisco vpn client, but I cant because I dont have /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-686/build -- i have everything but the vuild directory -- how do i get that?
[09:06] <ludde_> Silsabar, i have the same problem
[09:06] <Silsabar> :(
[09:06] <setite> yea donate it to me
[09:07] <Earthen> Silsabar, look on ubuntuguide.org
[09:07] <Silsabar> yeah
[09:07] <Silsabar> done that
[09:08] <don824chan> hey guys i have a question.  I installed ndiswrapper-utils to get my Belkin F5D7010 PCMCIA card to work but now it says I need to "change value of radiostate from 1 to 0 in driver config file(Hoary)."  How do I do that?
[09:08] <Earthen> Silsabar, and it didn't work?
[09:08] <khermans> sorry im trying to build the non-gpl Cisco vpnclient -- how do i get the build directory in /lib/modules/<kernel-version>
[09:08] <Silsabar> i would not be here if google would help :P
[09:08] <poningru> steve: http://jeriko.l-tech.org/?page_id=55
[09:08] <sivang> ludde_: did you also enable hoary-extras?
[09:08] <xark> Does anybody know anything about running 32-bit apps under 64 bit Breezy?
[09:08] <ludde_> sivang, is allready enabled
[09:08] <mindframe> Earthen, i followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java but i just cant find the sun-j2re1.5 package
[09:08] <apokryphos> xark: you'll have to create a chroot
[09:08] <poptree> hi
[09:08] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell xark about chroot
[09:08] <steve> poningru: thx...checking it
[09:08] <poptree> i am having a question
[09:08] <Earthen> Silsabar, so what have you done sofar
[09:09] <poningru> steve: the guy says that for him it just worked
[09:09] <mindframe> sivang, hoary-extras being universe and multiverse right?
[09:09] <xark> apokryphos: Thanks.
[09:09] <apokryphos> popey: fire away
[09:09] <poningru> so dont know why its not working for ya
[09:09] <Silsabar> tried about 5 different multiverse,universe,backport <-- whatever :| on list
[09:09] <don824chan> I have a question about a driver I installed
[09:09] <popey> que
[09:09] <don824chan> can anyone help me?
[09:09] <poptree> can i do mirror from ubuntu servers to my lan ?
[09:09] <Silsabar> and some sources.lists recommended at local ubuntuguide :|
[09:09] <steve> poningru: hmmm...strange
[09:10] <sivang> mindframe: I think not, universe and multiverse seems a differnet thing
[09:10] <Earthen> mindframe, if you follow the ubuntuguide.org adding the right repositories it should find it
[09:10] <don824chan> anyone?
[09:10] <Silsabar> that does not help :|
[09:10] <Earthen> mindframe, I just did it this morning and it workd fine for me
[09:10] <tristanmike> sorry don824chan, I don't know ndiswrapper
[09:10] <don824chan> hmm
[09:10] <Silsabar> earthen, could you send your sources.list if it works? :|
[09:10] <don824chan> do you know what it means by change value of radiostate from 1 to 0 in driver config file(Hoary).
[09:10] <ludde_> Earthen, i have the same problem,
[09:10] <sivang> Earthen: does it have the java marilliat sources?
[09:10] <poningru> steve: did you burn the cd yourself
[09:11] <don824chan> What is the driver config file, what is radiostate?
[09:11] <poningru> ?
[09:11] <x[BrB] x> how can i run mp3
[09:11] <don824chan> and how do I get there
[09:11] <steve> poningru: yes
[09:11] <mindframe> ugh
[09:11] <Earthen> where to send it
[09:11] <Silsabar> mp3 does not work in ubuntu i guess :/ just with that rhytmbox :D
[09:11] <esac_> how do i change the nice of an already running program ?
[09:11] <Earthen> Privite message me and i will post it in ther
[09:11] <steve> poningru: its not in the drive anymore though
[09:11] <poptree> can i do a one mirror from ubuntu servers to my lan ?  what is de policy from ubuntu to that ?
[09:11] <steve> poningru: so I dont think thats the problem
[09:11] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell Silsabar about mp3
[09:12] <sivang> poptree: what do you mean one mirrot ?
[09:12] <poningru> steve: it may be due to a bad install
[09:12] <poptree> mirror
[09:12] <poningru> it happens a lot
[09:12] <Earthen> sivang, I odn't thnk so
[09:12] <don824chan> someone?  anyone?
[09:12] <x[BrB] x> how can i run mp3
[09:12] <poptree> sivang:  a one mirror in my pc from ubuntu
[09:12] <shawarma> esac_: rence
[09:12] <poningru> but thats a pretty big may
[09:12] <poptree> to may lan sivang
[09:12] <shawarma> esac_: Whoops.. renice
[09:12] <poningru> don824chan: whats the prob?
[09:12] <steve> poningru: so what you think? should I re-burn it?
[09:12] <setite> is there a way to load my wlan0 with ifconfig or iwconfig... this wiki is killing me
[09:12] <esac_> shawarma: tnx
[09:12] <don824chan> I need to change value of radiostate from 1 to 0 in driver config file(Hoary).
[09:12] <sivang> poptree: so you will have a local respository of the packages?
[09:12] <poptree> yes
[09:12] <don824chan> For my Belkin F5D7010
[09:12] <poningru> steve: yeah and this time burn it on low speed and check the integrity of the cd
[09:12] <don824chan> And I don't know what that means
[09:12] <poningru> don824chan: hold on
[09:13] <steve> poningru: ok, will try...thx!
[09:13] <poningru> !restrictedformats
[09:13] <ubotu> it has been said that restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'
[09:13] <poptree> sivang yes
[09:13] <poningru> anyone who wants to play mp3 check out that site
[09:13] <sivang> poptree: sec
[09:13] <poptree> sivang: if i can have a apt-mirror installed getting from ubuntu
[09:13] <Earthen> Silsabar, wher do you wan tme to send the file
[09:13] <Silsabar> it does not help :|
[09:13] <setite> how can i force synaptic to list 32bit packages not safe for 64bit
[09:13] <Silsabar> earthen, how about dcc send to me? :)
[09:13] <Silsabar> it would really help :|
[09:14] <poningru> don824chan: hold on let me go look
[09:14] <ubuntu> hey guys im on ubuntus live cd right now, where can i change my screen resolution?
[09:14] <sivang> poptree: you need debmirror , it's used for doing just that.
[09:14] <hexion> hello!
[09:14] <oO[NOVA] Oo> hey there. question about totem-xine and playing divx/xvid stuff. i got it working fine fullscreen, but when in a window, the image bounces up and down rapidly.
[09:14] <concept10> I have a 24x CD-R on my laptop, but K3b only records at an average of 8x.  What could I set or change to increase this?
[09:14] <poptree> thanks
[09:14] <benji> Hi, I'm having problems with my CD-RW/DVD (Dell Inspiron 9300 Laptop) drive reading audio CDs.
[09:14] <fooboy> is their a good ubuntu tutorial
[09:14] <benji> I can't seem to play any audio CDs I put in.
[09:15] <hexion> how do I make a link to a directory?
[09:15] <benji> data cds work fine
[09:15] <sivang> ubuntu: System --> Preferences --> screen resolution
[09:15] <hexion> ln dir name?
[09:15] <sivang> hexion: you mean a symlink ?
[09:15] <tristanmike> don824chan, see if thread helps you.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[09:15] <Silsabar> i will soon cry :S
[09:15] <hexion> sivang: I want to use my enemy-territory directory of windows to my ubuntu compiled enemy-territory
[09:16] <AndieB> Hello all!
[09:16] <AndieB> I need help!
[09:16] <oO[NOVA] Oo> we all do. the world is doomed.
[09:16] <hexion> without copying all files
[09:16] <mwr1515> benji: what program are you using to play the audio cd?
[09:16] <sivang> hexion: is that some kind of a game?
[09:16] <poningru> don824chan: what was the exact error/message?
[09:16] <AndieB> I have via Synaptic Package Manager downloaded Mozilla Thunderbird...
[09:16] <hexion> sivang: yes
[09:16] <AndieB> But HOW do I install it??
[09:16] <sivang> hexion: ok, just a sec ok?
[09:16] <concept10> hexion: why do you want to do that
[09:16] <AndieB> Or maybe I should say... START the application?
[09:16] <benji> kaffeine, xmms, kscd
[09:16] <benji> none work
[09:16] <sivang> AndieB: hey andi, what do you try to do?
[09:17] <poningru> AndieB: its already installed its under applications->internet->thunderbird
[09:17] <hexion> concept10: because in windows/enemy/etmail theres about 1 GB data
[09:17] <don824chan> poningru: nvm
[09:17] <mwr1515> hmm, thats strange
[09:17] <poningru> don824chan: ?
[09:17] <topyli> hexion: do you have to be able to write to this directory? how is it formatted? is it ntfs?
[09:17] <hexion> concept10: and I dont want to copy all files to my ubuntu game
[09:17] <concept10> hexion: you mean maps?
[09:17] <don824chan> poningru: don't worry
[09:17] <poptree> sivang: thanks .... can i do debmirror from my sources.list ?
[09:17] <poningru> don824chan: did you get it working?
[09:17] <don824chan> poningru: I need to check something out
[09:17] <poningru> ok
[09:17] <hexion> topyli: its ntfs
[09:17] <don824chan> poningru: not yet but I'm still checking
[09:17] <hexion> concept10: yes, maps
[09:17] <AndieB> poningru: Ah, HOW stupid I am!!!
[09:17] <poningru> AndieB: hehe happens to the best of us
[09:17] <waterbaby999> evening
[09:17] <Silsabar> could someone tell me a backport(or whatever it is) where to find sun-j2re1.5 and w32codecs packages? :o
[09:17] <sivang> poptree: IIRC, you need to prepare special configuration for the debmirror to use, I can recall if it can use sources.list sorry
[09:18] <rambo3> no sidenet wine config on apt. weard
[09:18] <poningru> AndieB: for future references sometimes synaptic will install and wont put anything under applications
[09:18] <topyli> hexion: you can't write to ntfs, so you need to have all your preference files, highscores and such little things separately on the linux partition
[09:18] <hexion> topyli: I have it in /mnt/juegos/enemy-territory/etmain
[09:18] <AndieB> poningru: So true! Maybe you can help me with another thing? Regarding Wireless and SLOW internet resolvning/traffic...
[09:18] <concept10> hexion: IIRC, ET only uses maps located in the local directory
[09:18] <setite> what is the name of the network app... i checked packages.ubuntu.com and there is no network-admin so that cant be it
[09:18] <sivang> hexion: you want to be able to play that agame on the ubuntu , and use data from the ntfs ?
[09:18] <poningru> AndieB: sure whats the prob
[09:19] <sivang> setite: you want to set up network?
[09:19] <AndieB> poningru: I have a D-Link Wireless adapter and I have ADSL with a ADSL Router.
[09:19] <poptree> sivang: thanks
[09:19] <poptree> sivang and apt-mirror  ?
[09:19] <hexion> topyli: mmm.. its true, maybe thats a problem.. but I already have toons of maps there.. the game will only read the files
[09:19] <ubuntu> hi
[09:19] <poningru> AndieB: the wireless adapter is it b/g/a?
[09:19] <sivang> poptree: I never had to use apt-mirror, I just used debmirror
[09:19] <poningru> also what wireless card are you using?
[09:19] <AndieB> poningru: When I try to use FireFox or XChat, it takes an awfull long time before I get a "response" from "internet"....
[09:19] <hexion> concept10: then I make symbolic link to the files?
[09:19] <sivang> hexion: basically, if all you need is a symlink
[09:19] <AndieB> poningru: B/G/A??
[09:19] <topyli> hexion: perhaps you could install the game on linux, then delete the data files from the linux partition and make symbolic links to the files on the ntfs partition. i don't know really :)
[09:20] <poptree> sivang: thanks
[09:20] <don824chan> this is irritating
[09:20] <ztc|Fr4ntic> What's the difference between "Live CD" and "Install CD"?
[09:20] <sivang> hexion: than ln -s /source_dir [current_dir] 
[09:20] <concept10> hexion: you could try, but im not sure that it will work.  it will not hurt to try
[09:20] <apokryphos> ztc|Fr4ntic: Install CD installs the distribution to your hard-drive
[09:20] <poningru> AndieB: its the different kinds of wireless protocol like 802.11b or 802.11g
[09:20] <topyli> lol. everyone is saying the same thing
[09:20] <sivang> hexion: where current dir is where you want those data files to be accessible, and source_dir is the ntfs folder
[09:20] <apokryphos> ztc|Fr4ntic: Live CD runs straight off your CD-drive and RAM.
[09:20] <don824chan> I need to switch Hard drives, put my belkin INF file into my flash drive, then put my Ubuntu HD back in to get my ndiswrapper to work
[09:20] <hexion> ok
[09:20] <AndieB> poningru: Not just FireFox or Xchat any type of "external" communication with "internet" is slow or takes long before the traffic gets resolved....
[09:20] <AndieB> poningru: 802.11g it must be.
[09:20] <ztc|Fr4ntic> apokryphos: Okay, thanks!
[09:20] <hexion> thanks a lot to you three... sivang, concept10, and topyli :)
[09:21] <poningru> AndieB: right, have you tried connecting directly to the router and see if that speeds things up?
[09:21] <topyli> hexion: happy hacking! :)
[09:21] <sivang> hexion: no problem helpoing peopel with ubuntu my pleasure!
[09:21] <poningru> AndieB: or is that what you are doing right now?
[09:21] <hexion> I'll try with symblink to the directory, and if it doesnt work I'll symblink files
[09:21] <topyli> hexion: sounds like a plan
[09:21] <poptree> in ubuntu has not there a kernel and utilities of openmosix
[09:21] <sivang> hexion: but do NOT, that you cannot write to an NTFS partition from ubuntu
[09:21] <ludde_> can someone try and find "sun-j2re1.5"
[09:22] <sivang> hexion: (actually you can, but is is VERY unreliable)
[09:22] <AndieB> poningru: No I'm not on the cable from the Laptop to the Router right now. I believe it is going faster...
[09:22] <AndieB> poningru: ... if I use the cable...
[09:22] <hexion> sivang: yes, I know... but enemy-territory just need to read that files
[09:22] <sivang> hexion: then I gues syou will not have to mmuch problem
[09:22] <Belutz> ludde_: it's in hoary extras
[09:22] <PShivers> Belutz now that I mounted my windows partition
[09:22] <poningru> AndieB: hmm ok so we know for sure its the wireless
[09:23] <ludde_> Belutz, u did find it ?
[09:23] <poningru> AndieB: what card are you using one your computer?
[09:23] <Zhukov_> anyone knows how to link to java home
[09:23] <Zhukov_> ?
[09:23] <poningru> err s/one/on
[09:23] <PShivers> can't I boot with windows anymore?
[09:23] <Belutz> PShivers: you an boot to windows
[09:23] <x[BrB] x> how can i run movies
[09:23] <Belutz> ludde_: wait
[09:23] <AndieB> poningru: I'm using a D-Link DWL650...
[09:24] <benji> Hi, I'm having problems with my CD-RW/DVD (Dell Inspiron 9300 Laptop) drive reading audio CDs.  Tried using about every cd player app...
[09:24] <gnubie> hi guys. i need to create a user account that can shutdown a server i made. how do i do it?
[09:24] <Belutz> PShivers: s/an/can
[09:25] <setite> i wish i could recall who told me the ma111 worked out of the box
[09:25] <adamh> I've tried installing Ubuntu on a USB flash drive. I *think* everything would work, EXCEPT it doesn't seem to load sd-mod on boot.
[09:25] <setite> because whoever that was lied
[09:25] <PShivers> Belutz: where do I type that? and do I have to mount the disk everytime I want to change system?
[09:25] <Silsabar> could someone tell me a backport(or whatever it is) where to find sun-j2re1.5 and w32codecs packages? :o
[09:25] <x[BrB] x> how can i boot using the root
[09:25] <adamh> However, grub loads fine, and it even dumps me to a shell with busybox :)
[09:25] <gnubie> hi guys. i need to create a user account that can shutdown a server i made. how do i do it?
[09:25] <Earthen> Silsabar, I told you all ready
[09:26] <AndieB> poningru: It seems that when the "connection" has finally been established the speed on the network is FAST. But it takes an awfull long time to get the "reply" from internet, so to speak.
[09:26] <adamh> (from which I can modprobe sd-mod, run udevstart, mount /dev/sda1, chroot, and do all sorts of stuff, such as run irssi)
[09:26] <Silsabar> no you did not :|
[09:26] <Belutz> PShivers: it automatically mount when you boot to ubuntu
[09:26] <Silsabar> "use ubuntuguide" does not work
[09:26] <adamh> AndieB: (butting in to something I haven't heard the start of): sounds like a DNS problem
[09:26] <PShivers> ok
[09:26] <Belutz> ludde_: strange, i don't find it, maybe you could download it from sun website
[09:26] <draug_n> gnubie: `man visudo` `man sudoers`
[09:26] <Earthen> Silsabar, what problem did you get
[09:26] <Silsabar> what do you think? plz
[09:26] <poningru> AndieB: thats normal i think
[09:26] <Silsabar> :S
[09:27] <draug_n> gnubie: oh and man sudo ofcourse
[09:27] <Silsabar> apt-get does not find those packages :|
[09:27] <adamh> Has anybody here booted from USB?
[09:27] <poningru> adamh: not possible since when he is wired its all well and good
[09:27] <setite> whoa i got a new error
[09:27] <Earthen> Silsabar, did you add theextra repositories
[09:27] <adamh> (That's what I get for butting in without hearing the start :P)
[09:27] <Silsabar> yes i did :| :|
[09:27] <x[BrB] x> how can i access the root
[09:27] <adamh> x[BrB] x: run "sudo su"
[09:27] <Silsabar> and now i am asking for a repository that actually works :|
[09:27] <Earthen> Silsabar, do they did you do apt-get updaet
[09:27] <PShivers> Belutz: So do I type s/an/can in the root terminal?
[09:27] <Silsabar> ..............
[09:27] <Agrajag> adamh: more like sudo -s
[09:27] <Silsabar> earthen
[09:27] <Earthen> Silsabar, do they did you do apt-get update
[09:27] <Silsabar> please :D
[09:28] <poningru> AndieB: I am assuming that you are talking about when the laptop first starts connecting
[09:28] <Silsabar> and now i am asking for a repository that actually works :|
[09:28] <topyli> hmm. canonical is not among the debian common core foundation
[09:28] <geneo93> sudo
[09:28] <mindframe> i still cant find sun-j2re1.5 after enabling hoary-extras and running apt-get update.  anyone know whats up?
[09:29] <Belutz> PShivers: no, that's a correction for what I type earlier
[09:29] <Silsabar> mindframe, your repositories suck like mine :P
[09:29] <AndieB> poningru: Yes. I boot up my Laptop, works fine. I for instance start FireFox and writes www.google.com... here it takes MAJOR time before page is displayed. After that, if I search or surf google.com it works a bit better/faster.
[09:29] <flodine> lol
[09:29] <Earthen> Silsabar, sorry it is what i followed earler today and it worked for me so I asume that it would work for everyone
[09:30] <x[BrB] x> how can i log using the root instead of my user name
[09:30] <Silsabar> Earthen, that is ok :P
[09:30] <Silsabar> i did that too, but no succes
[09:30] <hexion> I got it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:30] <mindframe> Earthen, can you pm me what sources you have in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[09:30] <Earthen> Silsabar, I could send you a copy of my sorces list of you liek
[09:30] <hexion> mkdir etmain
[09:30] <gerarcone> is it possible with GNOME to open the folders with a single-click?
[09:30] <hexion> sudo ln -s /mnt/juegos/Wolfenstein\ -\ Enemy\ Territory/etmain/*.pk3 etmain
[09:30] <adamh> x[BrB] x: Do you mean log into GNOME or KDE using root? You can't.
[09:30] <ompaul> mindframe, It appears the the _nice_ people in Sun approached whoever had the repo and said - you can't do that, so that is the nice people in Sun, all the more reason to use the GPLed java stuff
[09:30] <hexion> and its done!
[09:30] <Belutz> !tell x[BrB] x about rootsudo
[09:30] <Silsabar> i would like that
[09:30] <Silsabar> or just paste those multiverse repositories here
[09:30] <Silsabar> i bet many are looking for working ones
[09:31] <mindframe> ompaul, oh i see.
[09:31] <Earthen> mindframe, I could if i knew how to privite message with xchat
[09:31] <ompaul> mindframe, ' _nice_ people in Sun ' or some person for and on their behalf
[09:31] <adamh> gerarcone: Yes, open the "File Management" preferences window
[09:31] <hexion> bye
[09:31] <Silsabar> Earthen,  /msg nick :P
[09:31] <bulletino> Hello al
[09:31] <bulletino> all
[09:32] <Earthen> Silsabar, if i past that much infor i will be booted
[09:32] <Silsabar> just that multiverse line..
[09:32] <ompaul> Silsabar, any chance you could put all your comments on one line, because this place is busy :)
[09:32] <rets|ubuntu> Hi @ all - someone has FreeNX-Client runnung on Ubuntu ???
[09:32] <get_VoIP_here> Is anyone here running Asterisk on Breezy?
[09:32] <ompaul> Earthen, paste.ubuntulinux.nl for large pastes
[09:32] <waterbaby999> just thought i'd pop in and say hello, am an imposter from fedora core giving ubuntu a spin :)
[09:32] <ompaul> get_VoIP_here, you know I should be
[09:32] <AndieB> poningru: Still there?
[09:33] <mwr1515> whats Asterisk?
[09:33] <get_VoIP_here> ompaul: why?
[09:33] <Belutz> Earthen: you can use the pastebin
[09:33] <ompaul> get_VoIP_here, I am supposed to build such a system :)
[09:33] <get_VoIP_here> ompaul: ic
[09:33] <mwr1515> What is Asterisk?
[09:33] <ludde_> *
[09:33] <mwr1515> lol
[09:34] <waterbaby999> hehehe
[09:34] <get_VoIP_here> mwr1515: PBX software and so much more....
[09:34] <ompaul> mwr1515,  it is a pabx on steroids that you can run on a linux box
[09:34] <solidgroove> is there a way to chmod files and subfiles?
[09:34] <mwr1515> PBX software?
[09:34] <Earthen> Silsabar, think you can get it here http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2309
[09:34] <Earthen> Silsabar, if i did everything right
[09:34] <get_VoIP_here> mwr1515: In conjunction with SER, its unstoppable
[09:35] <Silsabar> Earthen, thank you :) I just noticed that private messages does not work here :P
[09:35] <mwr1515> I don't know what any of this is..lol, what is it? PBX and SER?
[09:35] <AndieB> poningru: Hoho?
[09:35] <ludde_> Silsabar, did get to work?
[09:35] <get_VoIP_here> ompaul: if you have any questions, give me a holler - I am a VoIP provider
[09:35] <Silsabar> ludde_,  not yet
[09:36] <ompaul> mwr1515, lol is so so im not irc, google will tell you lots :)
[09:36] <ludde_> :<
[09:36] <Doom27> yah ppl are on!
[09:36] <poningru> AndieB: ?
[09:36] <ompaul> get_VoIP_here, ahh :)
[09:36] <Doom27> can someone help me with a problem
[09:36] <gerarcone> adamh: i can't find it. where it is?
[09:36] <mwr1515> ok, thanks!
[09:36] <AndieB> poningru: You have any idea what I could do?
[09:36] <ompaul> Doom27, I was not in the day they did telepathy :)
[09:37] <apprentice> when will the new ubuntu be out
[09:37] <ompaul> !tell Doom27 about ask
[09:37] <ompaul> apprentice, 13 Oct
[09:37] <Belutz> ompaul: lol :D
[09:37] <apprentice> ok
[09:37] <Silsabar> Earthen, i have the same repositories :P but it does not find those packages anyway :o
[09:37] <ompaul> Silsabar, which ones are you not finding?
[09:38] <ludde_> "sun-j2re1.5"
[09:38] <Silsabar> that and w32codecs
[09:38] <Earthen> Silsabar, dame it worked for me not less than a week ago
[09:38] <Silsabar> for now
[09:38] <Doom27> ok my problem is that ubuntu won't detect my conection i guess and i can't be online but the first time i used it it worked but since i restarted it hasn't
[09:38] <quartermain> is this the right channel to talk about initramfs?
[09:38] <bulletino> hi all
[09:38] <bulletino> i've got a question
[09:38] <FallenOne> , the installer installed flawless but now...as username i did fallenone and as pass i left it blank but now if i blank the login pass field it gives me a error of wrong shit
[09:38] <BockBilbo> hello
[09:38] <Earthen> Silsabar, wel you can always install java manully
[09:39] <Silsabar> It is not only about the java..
[09:39] <bulletino> When i'm trying to open sources.list and to change a few things it is not possible :S
[09:39] <Doom27> guessing noone can help me
[09:39] <bulletino> only when u r a root
[09:39] <ompaul> Silsabar,  both of those have *legal* issues and afik they were taken down a couple of days ago
[09:39] <poningru> AndieB: I am pretty sure that is normal behaviour
[09:39] <oO[NOVA] Oo> bulletino; tried sudo vi sources.list to get vi to edit the sources.list file, in root mode?
[09:39] <fadumpt> Doom27, go to System>administration>networking
[09:39] <Doom27> yesh?
[09:40] <Doom27> then what
[09:40] <Earthen> ompaul, O that would explane alot
[09:40] <ompaul> Doom27, go and try to activate
[09:40] <Doom27> i tried many times
[09:40] <Silsabar> uhm..
[09:40] <fadumpt> what does ifconfig tell you?
[09:40] <fadumpt> about eth0
[09:40] <oO[NOVA] Oo> bulletino: but it would be easier if you used the synaptics package manager graphics user interface and edit it through there (repositories)
[09:40] <bulletino> yes i've tried
[09:40] <FallenOne> can anyone help me for godsake??
[09:40] <ompaul> Doom27, you must do some of this yourself and fill in the gaps - is it wireless modem adsl which kind?
[09:40] <alexandros> anyone in here have experience with mldonkey?
[09:40] <Silsabar> This sucks. Back to suse then :|
[09:40] <Doom27> eth0 says something like connection is already activ or sumthin
[09:40] <FallenOne> , the installer installed flawless but now...as username i did fallenone and as pass i left it blank but now if i blank the login pass field it gives me a error of wrong shit
[09:41] <Earthen> anyone want to help me to get my USB Memmory stick to work
[09:41] <FallenOne> comeon help me :/
[09:41] <bulletino> Yeah but when i'm trying that, it won't work. i've still got the same prob
[09:41] <adamh> Earthen: What happens when you plug it in?
[09:41] <Doom27> i ussing a adsl modem
[09:41] <ompaul> Doom27, it is important to be accurate in what you tell the person that is helping you
[09:41] <Earthen> adamh, not a thing
[09:41] <ludde_> Silsabar, dont give up that easy, we have to solve it :>
[09:41] <Doom27> lol
[09:41] <Earthen> :?
[09:41] <dave_> upgraded to breezy today from hoary and i cant start the 2.6.12.8 kernel only the .10.5 kernel, some kind of an error relating to also first of all then it says x server cant start, and asks to diag, but hangs then
[09:41] <AndieB> poningru: You are? Well, it takes sooo long time! The things is before I installed Ubuntu on my laptop I had Windows XP Pro, with the same wireless adapter... It was going REAL fast in comparison with Linux now... so something must be "wrong" I guess...
[09:41] <dave_> *alsa
[09:41] <adamh> Earthen: Run "dmesg" on a console. Do the last few lines talk about usb-storage, sda, or anything like that?
[09:41] <Earthen> adamh, I know it works in ubuntu I use it on anothe computer
[09:41] <fadumpt> Doom27, you plug into the modem with a network cable or USB cable?
[09:41] <alexandros> I can use some help please, sancho keeps telling that it cannot coonect to it.
[09:42] <Doom27> network cable
[09:42] <FallenOne> goddamnit can anyone for godsake help em!?
[09:42] <don824chan> hey guys who was helping me with ndiswrapper before?
[09:42] <fadumpt> not with that attitude FallenOne
[09:42] <adamh> FallenOne: You seem to have mistaken us for people you're paying :)
[09:42] <Ghotcom> eyo
[09:42] <Madeye> guys, I got SIP Voip, do you know what application should I use to use this service, not just client to client like kphone, need to make international calls
[09:42] <fadumpt> Doom27, do you know the ip information?
[09:42] <Ghotcom> hello
[09:42] <fadumpt> for the modem
[09:42] <FallenOne> ok let me ask it nice now
[09:42] <dave_> upgraded to breezy today from hoary and i cant start the 2.6.12.8 kernel only the .10.5 kernel, some kind of an error relating to alsa first of all then it says x server cant start, and asks to diag, but hangs then
[09:43] <don824chan> can anyone here help me with ndiswrapper?
[09:43] <Doom27> like my ip yes i do but when i use ifconfig it comes up with a difrent ip
[09:43] <Kaaden> Hello, i have a serious problem, with the live and installation cd for both 5.04 and 5.10 preview versions after it says starting gnome it takes me stright to a black screen and the only thing on the screen is a _ that doesnt flash and then my system becomes nonresponsive any ideas?
[09:43] <Earthen> adamh,  i get drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: timeout initializing reports
[09:43] <Ghotcom> WHat s the approach to burn the .iso for the INSTALL_CD ?
[09:43] <adamh> dave_: Try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:43] <get_VoIP_here> Madeye: Try X-lite
[09:43] <ksmurf> how do i add terminal to my gnome menu?
[09:43] <oO[NOVA] Oo> ghotcom: get alcohol or nero and burn the image
[09:43] <fadumpt> Doom27, if you know what your ip address should be, go into the networking app where i Told you
[09:43] <fadumpt> click eth0 and click properties
[09:43] <adamh> Earthen: "hid-core.c"? That's bizarre, it must not be recognizing the thing as a USB flash drive. Did you try plugging it into another port?
[09:43] <ompaul> Ghotcom, you are to burn an image not a file - or else you make a coffee coaster
[09:43] <fadumpt> select static from the drop down and put that information in
[09:43] <rets|ubuntu> I need to get freeNX run - someone ahs a clue ?
[09:44] <Earthen> adamh,  or maby this error usb 5-4.3: string descriptor 0 read error: -32
[09:44] <PShivers> Belutz I still can't startup with windows
[09:44] <Kaaden> Hello, i have a serious problem, with the live and installation cd for both 5.04 and 5.10 preview versions after it says starting gnome it takes me stright to a black screen and the only thing on the screen is a _ that doesnt flash and then my system becomes nonresponsive any ideas?
[09:44] <mwr1515> doom27: is your ADSL PPPoP?
[09:44] <Ghotcom> coffe coster ?
[09:44] <bbr> hello
[09:44] <Ghotcom> sorry not english native
[09:44] <adamh> Earthen: That kind of error sounds like a physical problem
[09:44] <Earthen> adamh, yes i did that
[09:44] <Ghotcom> ompaul: oki
[09:44] <Doom27> no its dpch
[09:44] <don824chan> can anyone help me?  the wiki tells me to "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" but I get the error "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted"
[09:44] <AndieB> If I want to download OpenOffice 2.0 onto my Ubuntu Linux, how do I do that? I can not find it in Synaptic Package Manager?
[09:44] <adamh> Earthen: If you plug in, say, a USB keyboard or mouse, do they work?
[09:44] <fadumpt> but your dhcp isn't working
[09:44] <ompaul> Kaaden, have you an (A) nvidia card or (B) ati card
[09:44] <mwr1515> ok
[09:44] <Ghotcom> ompaul: what is the option to choose then ...burn image ?
[09:44] <fadumpt> so set it to static and put in the correct ip addresses and gateway
[09:44] <Madeye> get_VoIP_here,  is it free?
[09:44] <Earthen> adamh, well it works in my other computer that is running ubuntu
[09:44] <Kaaden> ompaul:: i have a ati card
[09:44] <bbr> who can help me for install amsn?
[09:44] <get_VoIP_here> Madeye: yes
[09:44] <Kaaden> ompaul:: might that be the problem?
[09:44] <Doom27> yeah
[09:44] <fadumpt> under the DNS tab put it the IP address you put in for the gateway
[09:45] <fadumpt> and click okay to save it
[09:45] <fadumpt> and it should work
[09:45] <Earthen> adamh, yes i am using a bunck of usb stuff and thay all work
[09:45] <ompaul> Ghotcom,  I presume so , don't do windows or its software :)
[09:45] <don824chan> please?  I have no idea whats going on
[09:45] <adamh> Earthen: Oh, I'm out of ideas then :(
[09:45] <poningru> Kaaden: its def the ati card
[09:45] <ompaul> !tell Kaaden about ati
[09:45] <Doom27> ok i'll try
[09:45] <ksmurf> how do I install terminal to my right click manual in breezy
[09:45] <adamh> Earthen: If you run "modprobe usb-storage", what happens? (a long shot)
[09:45] <dave_> adamh, i need a bus identifier?
[09:45] <ompaul> Kaaden, read the page that ubotu sent you
[09:45] <Earthen> adamh, darn
[09:45] <AndieB> Anyone?
[09:45] <Kaaden> thank you
[09:46] <don824chan> its hard getting people's attention in here
[09:46] <poningru> AndieB: it should be in the repos
[09:46] <ompaul> ksmurf, that does not read well, can you try again please
[09:46] <Madeye> get_VoIP_here, hmm can I pm you?
[09:46] <poningru> you just have to activate the reall wone
[09:46] <PShivers> How do I boot with windows after mounting the windows drive in ubuntu?
[09:46] <get_VoIP_here> Madeye: sure
[09:46] <poningru> err correct one
[09:46] <adamh> How do I explicitly specify additional modules for my initrd image to load?
[09:46] <Earthen> adamh, hole on it poped up
[09:46] <don824chan> poningru: you were helping me with ndiswrapper before, weren't you?
[09:46] <Earthen> adamh,  when i did that command
[09:46] <adamh> Earthen: Wow, that's strange :)
[09:46] <odatubuntu> hello everyone
[09:46] <Earthen> adamh, you did it
[09:47] <Ghotcom> ompaul: oki thank heaps
[09:47] <adamh> Earthen: I have no idea how to make that happen all the time, I think there's something wrong with the computer. But "modprobe usb-storage" will always work :)
[09:47] <AndieB> poningru: Sorry, remember me being a newbie! ;) "In the repos" you say?
[09:47] <poningru> don824chan: yeah
[09:47] <ompaul> don824chan, did you read the faq page on ndiswrapper?
[09:47] <Belutz> PShivers: what's the problem?
[09:47] <ompaul> Ghotcom, np
[09:47] <Ghotcom> ompaul: i m converting a friend to Linux eheh
[09:47] <don824chan> ompaul: yes
[09:47] <ksmurf> sorry.... Could someone tell me how to add terminal in gnome 2.12 (Breezy) back to my right click content menu Please
[09:47] <Ghotcom> ompaul: :-)
[09:47] <Ghotcom> ompaul: there will be assimilated
[09:47] <PShivers> can't startup with windows Belutz
[09:47] <poningru> AndieB: hold on gotta find which repository has openoffice2.0
[09:47] <don824chan> poningru: i got an error when I tried to "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[09:47] <ompaul> don824chan, that is all I can do for you
[09:47] <Earthen> adamh, I think i may have mess with my ubuntu istall to much
[09:47] <Belutz> PShivers: are you using grub?
[09:47] <PShivers> doesn't appear as an option
[09:47] <AndieB> poningru: Oki, I'm thankful!
[09:47] <odatubuntu> i have a program that depends on libqt3c102-mt anyone know what i need to install to make this work because the current version is just libqt3-mt
[09:47] <don824chan> poningru: it was "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted"
[09:48] <Earthen> adamh, i'm new to it so it happends when your not really sure of what to do
[09:48] <ksmurf> sudo ndiswrapper
[09:48] <PShivers> Belutz: erm, no idea what grub is
[09:48] <bulletino> could somebody help me ?
[09:48] <adamh> Earthen: We've all been there :)
[09:48] <Belutz> PShivers: could you paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst into paste.ubuntulinux.nl ?
[09:48] <AndieB> poningru: Where do you find those "repositories"?
[09:48] <adamh> Hrm, what's the "ipmasq" package do? I'm used to installing iptables and running a single rule...
[09:48] <Earthen> adamh, I think i am learning
[09:48] <keith-> i hate life
[09:48] <Belutz> !sources
[09:48] <ubotu> sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:48] <keith-> i can't believe this
[09:49] <keith-> i kept trying to type my password
[09:49] <oO[NOVA] Oo> don824chan: did you first install the driver into ndiswrapper using ndiswrapper -i driver.inf ?
[09:49] <Belutz> AndieB: look what ubotu just said
[09:49] <ompaul> poningru, it is in  breezy/main Packages
[09:49] <keith-> and it kept saying it failed
[09:49] <keith-> to the screensaver that is
[09:49] <ksmurf> was that better ompaul?
[09:49] <keith-> so i dropped to a shell that was already logged in...
[09:49] <poningru> ompaul: thanks man
[09:49] <ompaul> bulletino, could you ask a question that is specific
[09:49] <keith-> killed gnome-screensaver
[09:49] <don824chan> oO[NOVA] Oo I think I did, because it said "bcmwl5 is already installed. Use -e to remove it"
[09:49] <ompaul> ksmurf,  was what better? sorry  missed it :-/
[09:49] <odatubuntu> i have a program that depends on libqt3c102-mt anyone know what i need to install to make this work because the current version is just libqt3-mt
[09:49] <poningru> AndieB: turn on backports
[09:49] <keith-> got back in gnome... only to see gnome had caps-lock on, but somehow console didn't
[09:50] <poningru> !tell AndieB about backports
[09:50] <oO[NOVA] Oo> don824chan: okay you have to see this post first: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22049.html
[09:50] <ksmurf> sorry.... Could someone tell me how to add terminal in gnome 2.12 (Breezy) back to my right click content menu Please>>>> ompaul
[09:50] <oO[NOVA] Oo> don824chan: if http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22049.html don't work, check back here
[09:50] <dv_> hello
[09:50] <poningru> don824chan: hold on I will be right with you
[09:50] <khermans> Anyone know how to set the Microsoft Exchange server in Novell Evolution 2.x ??  I can't seem to speicufy the server address
[09:50] <waterbaby999> well....ubuntu recognises my wireless card which is one step better than fedora .. but its not powered up .. anyone care to help?
[09:50] <don824chan> poningru: thanks
[09:50] <dv_> i have a slight problem with the QTDIR variable
[09:50] <bulletino> ompaul: when i'm trying to open sources.list to change a few things, i can't change it :S
[09:50] <don824chan> oO[NOVA] Oo thanks as well
[09:50] <bulletino> i'm doing this in console
[09:50] <poningru> AndieB: let me know if that works or not
[09:50] <khermans> bulletino, do it as root
[09:50] <dv_> its not defined by default, so when I want to develop something with Qt I have to define it
[09:50] <AndieB> Wow... now much to get in touch with... I'll add that what you wrote poningru!
[09:51] <adamh> ksmurf: Install the nautilus-open-terminal package :)
[09:51] <bulletino> sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list
[09:51] <odatubuntu> waterbaby999 do a search on ubuntu for networking they have a package there
[09:51] <dv_> where can I enter the variable so that it is always defined on startup?
[09:51] <khermans> Anyone use Novell Evolution?
[09:51] <adamh> ksmurf: or something like that
[09:51] <PShivers> Belutz: where is the paste.ubuntulinux.nl?
[09:51] <ksmurf> adamh thanks
[09:51] <bulletino> when i'm doing that i get a venster empty
[09:51] <adamh> khermans: Is that == Ximian Evolution?
[09:51] <ompaul> ksmurf, :) okay right click on the panel you want and add to panel or run smeg to add it to the primary one with the following properties name Terminal command line  gnome-terminal
[09:51] <Belutz> PShivers: open it with your web browser
[09:51] <khermans> Ximian is 1.x
[09:51] <waterbaby999> "do a search on ubuntu" ... clarify?
[09:51] <dv_> I thought abotu /etc/profile/ but will that do?
[09:51] <draug_n> ok.. now i've gotten the server to accept print jobs from networked clients. but the print jobs just sit there in the queue and don't get printed. printing a test page (directly from the printer) works. funny thing is, it worked just 15 minutes ago :( any ideas?
[09:51] <khermans> adamh, Novell bought Ximian
[09:51] <ompaul> bulletino, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:51] <odatubuntu> waterbaby999: go to ubuntu's home page
[09:52] <waterbaby999> kk
[09:52] <waterbaby999> its just updating atm :)
[09:52] <adamh> khermans: Yeah, but I thought it still called itself Ximian Evolution :)
[09:52] <ompaul> PShivers, it is in netherlands
[09:52] <khermans> adamh, well do you know how to set the exchange server address?
[09:53] <ompaul> waterbaby999, can you keep it all to one line - very busy and in here atm you might notice :)
[09:53] <mata_svada> I have a serious problem: I can't boot my ubuntu-system anymore.
[09:53] <adamh> khermans: No, never used it with Exchange
[09:53] <PShivers> right
[09:53] <adamh> khermans: You have to install the evolution-exchange-somethingorother package...
[09:53] <waterbaby999> yup ok no problemo :)
[09:53] <mata_svada> it says that it can'T load certain stuff
[09:53] <PShivers> Belutz ompaul: and then I copy the text I find?
[09:53] <poningru> don824chan: hmm
[09:53] <mata_svada> would be nice if someone could help me...
[09:54] <khermans> adamh, i have the connector installed
[09:54] <ompaul> PShivers, yeap,
[09:54] <poningru> don824chan: so what exactly did you do?
[09:54] <adamh> khermans: Sorry, no idea then
[09:54] <PShivers> Belutz ompaul: and then?
[09:54] <odatubuntu> i have a program that depends on libqt3c102-mt anyone know what i need to install to make this work because the current version is just libqt3-mt
[09:54] <eamonn> mata_svada, can you give some more details? Are you running Hoary? What are the messages?
[09:54] <Belutz> PShivers: paste the url in here
[09:54] <bulletino> ompaul: thanks ! it's finaly works normal :P
[09:54] <PShivers> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2304
[09:54] <ompaul> PShivers, please, it is instinctive - you do it you tell people the url they talk with you and so on - kind of like a help channel :)
[09:55] <setite> how do i remove a package with dpkg
[09:55] <don824chan> poningru: lemme see
[09:55] <ompaul> setite, which package do yo uwant to remove?
[09:55] <don824chan> poningru: you know I'm not entirely sure
[09:55] <setite> linux-wlan-ng... i forced it and now i want to remove it
[09:55] <ompaul> setite, and given your skills why not do it with symaptic
[09:55] <eamonn> setite, dpkg -r
[09:55] <mata_svada> I'm running 5.04 and the messages are that i cant load gdm, /sbin/klogd , postgresql
[09:56] <Belutz> PShivers: not that, you copy your /boot/grub/menu.lst and paste it into that pastebin
[09:56] <mata_svada> actually, its not running anymore ;-)
[09:56] <setite> ompaul: it doenst show up in synaptic
[09:56] <PShivers> Belutz: I have done that
[09:56] <mata_svada> and when I try to log in the konsole, it says that cd /home/mata (my username) doesn't work
[09:56] <don824chan> damnit
[09:56] <setite> is only use synaptic when i have to anyway... console is faster
[09:56] <PShivers> Belutz: and that's one of the results
[09:56] <don824chan> poningru: I kept on saying "sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf" and it doesn't seem to be working
[09:57] <adamh> WOO-HOO! I've brought my computer up from a failed-boot-dropping-to-busybox-terminal to a full-blown router, without rebooting :P
[09:57] <don824chan> poningru: then all of a sudden it says its already installed
[09:57] <eamonn> setite, then use apt-get from the console. Or aptitude.
[09:57] <adamh> Now I can Google for how to fix it :P
[09:57] <don824chan> poningru: and when I try to remove it to install it again it says it isn't installed
[09:57] <Belutz> PShivers: you didn;t paste the content of menu.lst file
[09:57] <mata_svada> right now I'm running a live cd.
[09:57] <PShivers> Belutz: I pasted /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:57] <poningru> don824chan: hmm ic
[09:58] <AndieB> I'm back!
[09:58] <Doom27> hey its me again my problem isn't fixed
[09:58] <AndieB> Hmmm....
[09:58] <Belutz> PShivers: could you paste it again?
[09:58] <don824chan> poningru: i'll show you what i mean in #flood
[09:58] <get_VoIP_here> .
[09:58] <PShivers> Belutz: /boot/grub/menu.lst... have pasted again
[09:59] <mata_svada> hmmm... anyone any ideas??
[09:59] <spacey> anyone got gajim working with gpg?
[09:59] <AndieB> poningru: No OpenOffice 2 in my Package Manager!
[09:59] <eamonn> mata_svada, try hitting escape when the grub messages start and starting in safe mode. Then type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[09:59] <ompaul> mata_svada, that is because the home dir of a live CD is ubuntu - your trying to get into the home dir of a real user - so you have to mount the hard drives if they have not mounted already - check the desktop for partitions - then click on the right one and away you go
[09:59] <Belutz> PShivers: i didn't see it in the paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:59] <PShivers> Belutz: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/search
[09:59] <PShivers> the results
[09:59] <don824chan> WAIT
[09:59] <don824chan> poningru: I just got it
[09:59] <eamonn> mata_svada, I didn't realize you were running a livecd.
[09:59] <mata_svada> ompaul it's when I try to login when I boot from my hd
[10:00] <poningru> AndieB: did you add the backports and the multiverse?
 <Bluefox> ubuntu  <---I don't know wht the hell I read that as, but it wasn't good
[10:00] <mata_svada> no, just now, becaus my hd-install doenst work, obviously...
 GSGold: ubuntu means orgy
[10:00] <odatubuntu> i have a program that depends on libqt3c102-mt anyone know what i need to install to make this work because the current version is just libqt3-mt
[10:00] <adamh> What do I have to do to make a change to /etc/mkinitramfs/modules take effect?
[10:00] <Belutz> PShivers: i'm confuse
[10:00] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: that's obsolete in Breezy, IIRC
[10:00] <ompaul> mata_svada, not obvious from info you have given us sorry :) now easier to understand
[10:00] <poningru> AndieB: go to synaptic
[10:00] <poningru> and see what repositories you have installed
[10:01] <mata_svada> no prob, thanks for your help...
[10:01] <PShivers> Belutz: ok, you telled me to paste "/boot/grub/menu.lst" right?
[10:01] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: it's replaced by the one you referenced, I think. One sec, I'll check for sure.
[10:01] <kzin> ppc question. got a new ibook -- suspend-to-ram no longer does. used to work with the old ibook, on both breezy and hoary+2.6.12
[10:01] <AndieB> poningru: Yes, I added the line exactly as ubotu posted to me...
[10:01] <kzin> or is there a more suitable channel?
[10:01] <ompaul> mata_svada, what do you want to do?
[10:01] <Belutz> PShivers: yes, paste the content of menu.lst file into the pastebin
[10:01] <poningru> AndieB: but do you have the mulitverse installed as well?
[10:01] <AndieB> poningru: You wrote something like !tell and my nick... but I didn't get that one (newbie to XChat tooo).
[10:01] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: thanx and if so what do i need to do in order to install qjoypad
[10:01] <mata_svada> so I'm going to reboot and if it doesn't work, I'll be back
[10:01] <odatubuntu> ?
[10:01] <poningru> oh
[10:01] <ompaul> mata_svada, stop
[10:01] <eamonn> ompaul, I think he just wants to boot succesfully :)
[10:01] <AndieB> poningru: How can I tell? :D
[10:01] <sktrdie> hello
[10:01] <mata_svada> ???
[10:01] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: wait, are you on breezy you say?
[10:02] <sktrdie> has anyone of u got vlc in Breezzy?
[10:02] <poningru> AndieB: hehe that is an ubotu command
[10:02] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: yea
[10:02] <poningru> basically telling ubotu help you
[10:02] <ompaul> mata_svada, record any error exactly are you getting when it boots
[10:02] <ompaul> mata_svada, record any error exactly when you try to log in
[10:02] <el_ramiro> hi, can someone help me, I'm having issues installing my NIC
[10:02] <Belutz> PShivers: when you open that paste.ubuntulinux.nl, type yout nickname, and paste the content of menu.lst into the text area below it and click send
[10:02] <mata_svada> ok...
[10:02] <AndieB> poningru: Hehe oki.. something new everyday (or some days MANY new things! Wonderful!)
[10:02] <ompaul> mata_svada, also try to log into a terminal CTRL + ALT + F1
[10:02] <Alpha_Cluster> How do i know what my root password is? It never asked for it
[10:03] <ompaul> !tell Alpha_Cluster about root
[10:03] <AndieB> poningru: How do I see if multiverse is installed or configured or "whatever" ?
[10:03] <dylan_> how do i get totem to play embedded videos on web pages?
[10:03] <mata_svada> ompaul, ok, so I'm rebooting.
[10:03] <sktrdie> has anyone of u got vlc working in Breezzy?
[10:03] <igno^> I need help to configure my ubuntu server as router anyone wanna help? :D
[10:03] <ompaul> mata_svada, okay
[10:03] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: yes, libqt-mt replaces it. Not sure what you need for that app, it should probably say
[10:03] <Belutz> wew it's already 3 am
[10:03] <PShivers> Belutz: done
[10:03] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: probably say what?
[10:04] <el_ramiro> I have a similiar issue as igno, Im trying to set up my ubuntu as proxy
[10:04] <dylan_> is there a way to get totem to play embedded videos on web pages at all?
[10:04] <PShivers> Belutz: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2310
[10:04] <mwr1515> I'm new to Breezy, can anyone recommend a good P2P file sharing program?
[10:04] <dylan_> mwr1515, gtk-gnutella
[10:04] <Belutz> Pshivers: yes i can see it now :)
[10:04] <AndieB> Hmm...
[10:05] <Belutz> PShivers: wait
[10:05] <mwr1515> Thanks, can i find gtk-gnutella in Synaptic?
[10:05] <AndieB> Waow... I gotta go to bed now... I really need to get up early!
[10:05] <geneo93> nicotine is good p2p
[10:05] <dylan_> mwr1515, yes
[10:05] <AndieB> poningru: I thank you very much for your time and effort to try and help me out!!
[10:05] <crimsun> mwr1515: yes
[10:05] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: what dependencies it has. Are you compiling?
[10:05] <AndieB> poningru: I hope to find you here some more, when I get into trouble! :D
[10:05] <mwr1515> awesome, thanks guys
[10:05] <AndieB> Bye bye everyone!
[10:06] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: it was a .deb package but i guess i can compile
[10:06] <Belutz> PShivers: may i private message you?
[10:06] <PShivers> Belutz: yes
[10:06] <dylan_> how do i play embedded movies on web pages?
[10:06] <dv_> does ubuntu use FAM?
[10:06] <ompaul> odatubuntu, have you tried to add enough repositories so you can access the full set of 17k + applications?
[10:06] <poningru> AndieB: sorry I couldnt be of more help
[10:07] <thoreauputic> dv_: gamin I believe (similar)
[10:07] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: and it doesn't install? Does it not say its dependencies? It should
[10:07] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: if it doesn't it's broken (it should).
[10:07] <m0biu5> anyone familiar with notepad++?
[10:07] <AndieB> poningru: You have done very MUCH for me!! I'm thankful! If you get any other ideas WHY I don't get OpenOffice 2 in my Synaptic, you can always mail me at ab@bodinjr.com!
[10:07] <AndieB> Good night everyone!
[10:08] <sktrdie> has anyone got vlc working in Breezzy?
[10:08] <Belutz> hmm
[10:08] <odatubuntu> ompaul: i have ubuntu's standard and universe repositories open
[10:08] <aircooledmadness> yea,  apt-get worked perfectly
[10:08] <dylan_> can somebody help me get to play embedded videos on web pages?
[10:08] <apokryphos> sktrdie: always been fine here
[10:08] <ompaul> odatubuntu, what package are you trying to install
[10:08] <feugan3333> Is there a way to use apt to list the files contained in a package that is not yet installed?
[10:09] <ompaul> !tell dylan_ about restricted
[10:09] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: component.h:6:25: error: qstringlist.h: No such file or directory
[10:09] <odatubuntu> component.h:7:25: error: qtextstream.h: No such file or directory
[10:09] <odatubuntu> component.h:8:21: error: qregexp.h: No such file or directory
[10:09] <odatubuntu> component.h:11:21: error: qobject.h: No such file or directory
[10:09] <odatubuntu> sorry
[10:09] <odatubuntu> damn
[10:09] <Belutz> PShivers: are you using 1 or 2 hdd ?
[10:09] <thoreauputic> feugan3333: you need the apt-file utility
[10:09] <odatubuntu> ompaul: qjoypad
[10:09] <ompaul> odatubuntu, gues you know
[10:09] <PShivers> Belutz: I am using 2 HDD's
[10:09] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: could you pastebin the full output?
[10:09] <odatubuntu> ompaul: yea but i can't find anything like that in the repositories
[10:09] <sktrdie> apokryphos: when I try apt-get install vlc under Breezy it says that it has unmet depndency, maybe some broken packages
[10:09] <Belutz> PShivers: could you join #ubuntu-offtopic it's more quiet in there
[10:10] <odatubuntu> pastbin?  did that once but forget how
[10:10] <apokryphos> !pastebin
[10:10] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:10] <eamonn> hi all, is anyone using Skype on breezy? Does it take much longer than normal to start up?
[10:10] <apokryphos> sktrdie: can you pastebin the full output?
[10:10] <ompaul> eamonn, a lifetime or two yeap
[10:10] <apokryphos> eamonn: nope; long as ever.
[10:10] <sktrdie> apokryphos: sure a sec
[10:11] <ompaul> odatubuntu, can't be of more use to you, it might be in backports - but if you use them be _careful_ they are evil and can eat you alive :)
[10:11] <poningru> brb
[10:11] <poningru> sorry wrong channel
[10:11] <Seveas> finally....
[10:11] <Seveas> repository back up :)
[10:11] <apokryphos> woo
[10:11] <sktrdie> !paste
[10:11] <ubotu> paste is probably please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[10:11] <ompaul> Seveas,  where
[10:12] <eamonn> apokryphos, are you using KDE or gnome? I wonder if there is a dependency I don't have. I'm using Gnome and the start up time as increased dramatically when I dist-upgraded to breezy a week or so ago.
[10:12] <aircooledmadness> yea,  i needed backports to get VLC in Breezy.  Just open them up,  get vlc,  then shut them down again
[10:12] <Seveas> ompaul, "the usual" :)
[10:12] <apokryphos> eamonn: KDE, but it shouldn't necessarily matter. Let me have a look at the output, and we'll see.
[10:12] <apokryphos> aircooledmadness: vlc is in the normal repos, for breezy.
[10:13] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2311
[10:13] <Seveas> ompaul, cheers, thanks mate!
[10:13] <aircooledmadness> ok
[10:13] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: erm, this is in the compile?
[10:13] <ompaul> thoreauputic, offtopic
[10:13] <dylan_> when i play embedded videos with totem-xine, there is no sound.  what do i do?
[10:13] <Alpha_Cluster> i keep getting an error when i try and ./configure for xmms it gives me an error saying glib isnt right
[10:13] <sktrdie> apokryphos: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2312
[10:13] <eamonn> apokryphos, the only message displayed on startup is "Xlib:  extension "XInputExtension" missing on display ":1.0".
[10:13] <eamonn> "
[10:13] <adamh> /quit/quit
[10:13] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: its a make command
[10:14] <SlicerDicer-> errm does anybody have problems with Mplayer and AMD64?
[10:14] <Seveas> Alpha_Cluster, don't compile xmms
[10:14] <ninjafish> I wish someone would make a distro called workonmylaptopbuntu
[10:14] <Seveas> get it from the repositories
[10:14] <Alpha_Cluster> how?
[10:14] <Mez> ninjafish: what laptop?
[10:14] <apokryphos> sktrdie: you're going to have to work through those dependencies and see why each doesn't install. Likely, you'll need to remove old/replace others.
[10:14] <fooboy> #dumbquestions
[10:14] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: what error does the .deb give though?
[10:15] <dylan_> when i play embedded videos with totem-xine, there is no sound.  what do i do?
[10:15] <rambo3> debian works fine on my laptop, with much older kernel
[10:15] <el_ramiro> after I installed the module to srtup my NIC, what should I do?
[10:15] <Seveas> Alpha_Cluster, apt-get install xmms
[10:15] <ninjafish> HP zv5000. so far i have the wireless card working and the trackpad but the USB ports are not as easy.
[10:16] <dylan_> Seveas, when i play embedded videos with totem-xine, there is no sound.  what do i do?
[10:16] <apokryphos> eamonn: skype doesn't actually work fully for me anymore, unfortunately. Sound problems.
[10:16] <Seveas> dylan_, turn on your sound...
[10:16] <apokryphos> eamonn: mind you, the Klik Skype worked better for me than the debian repository pack
[10:16] <dylan_> Seveas, its all the way up
[10:16] <ninjafish> Also it seems to overheat and switch off a lot (due to P4)
[10:16] <Alpha_Cluster> but they dont have a ap-get at there site for dl where can i get it in that form?
[10:16] <Seveas> totem-xine sucks with wmv
[10:16] <dylan_> Seveas, im trying to play quicktime
[10:16] <blk> i'm running breezy and i'm having a hard time getting my de_CH keyboard running correctly, xorg.conf and gnome are both configured to it but the layout is always en_US until i type "setxkbkeys ch" or simply "setxkbkeys" into a console.. anybody?
[10:16] <Seveas> same difference
[10:16] <sktrdie> apokryphos: mmm
[10:16] <Seveas> better use mplayerplugin
[10:16] <dylan_> Seveas, you dont have a solution?
[10:17] <sktrdie> apokryphos: let metry
[10:17] <Seveas> the latest breezy mplayerplugin is nice
[10:17] <dylan_> Seveas, i dont like mplayer
[10:17] <Seveas> try the latest, you'll like it again :)
[10:17] <BiSK-8> hello
[10:17] <ompaul> dylan_, sometimes there is great freedom in having no choice
[10:17] <eamonn> apokryphos, thanks anyway. It's working for me, just very slow at starting up. It's not a huge deal. I have plenty of disk space, so maybe I'll give kubuntu-desktop a shot some time. (I'm on the Gnome side of that religious war, but I'm flexible...)
[10:17] <dylan_> Seveas, can i get it via apt-get?
[10:17] <Seveas> yeah
[10:17] <Seveas> mozilla-mplayer
[10:17] <nathanel> blk: did you go through 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'?
[10:17] <feugan3333> thoreauputic: non sure how I shoule be using the apt-file utility. My problem starts with not being able to install a perl module: Term-Readline-gnu. perl Makefile.PL reports : Could not find neither libtermcap.a, libncurses.a, or libcurses. So I'm trying to file out which package contains these files.
[10:17] <apokryphos> eamonn: just that one command ;-). It's worth trying, definitely :)
[10:18] <ompaul> eamonn, watch your back if you cross that divide ;-)
[10:18] <Seveas> but you'll have to move the totem plugin files out of the way
[10:18] <dylan_> Seveas, how?
[10:18] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: qjoypad depends on libqt3c102-mt
[10:18] <dylan_> Seveas, and why does mplayer always install xmms with it?  i hate xmms
[10:18] <odatubuntu> that is the error
[10:18] <blk> nathanel: do i need to after a fresh install, i reinstalled when colony3 was released
[10:19] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: nothing else?
[10:19] <ompaul> apokryphos, I did say that months ago on some mailing list
[10:19] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: if so, then add the force depends option
[10:19] <ninjafish> anyone know of a commercial (or legal) DVD app for linux like linDVD but available for end users?
[10:19] <eamonn> ompaul, I might even give vi a try! Might as well do two religious wars...
[10:19] <apokryphos> ompaul: you tried it as of late? Working practically seamlessly; very nice. :)
[10:19] <nathanel> blk: usually not, but it's worth a try...
[10:19] <blk> nathanel: ok i'll try it
[10:20] <ompaul> apokryphos, with the unionfs cheat on kanotix
[10:20] <rambo3> allways funny http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4811/snapshot38cf.png
[10:20] <LoVeLyPeRVeRT> hi all
[10:20] <apokryphos> ompaul: 'tis available for Ubuntu now too, though :D
[10:20] <BiSK-8> is there any program 4 ubuntu for code decyphering that can decypher easy text like decypher this:  itimei  i=u t=b i=u m=n b=e i=u so the decyphered text wold be ubuntu..... so i want a program that can decypher codes of that type
[10:20] <ompaul> apokryphos, its nice - we do need one on this side of the channel
[10:20] <ompaul> apokryphos,  the gnome side
[10:20] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: how do i do that?
[10:20] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: use sed
[10:20] <LoVeLyPeRVeRT> i need to know if i can update ubuntu hoary 5.04 to 5.10
[10:20] <Seveas> dylan_, mv /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libtotem* /some/backup/place
[10:20] <apokryphos> ompaul: yup
[10:20] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: man dpkg
[10:21] <nathanel> LoVeLyPeRVeRT: yes, that's possible
[10:21] <ompaul> LoVeLyPeRVeRT, you can, it might break, backup your data
[10:21] <BiSK-8> apokyphos, is it a good program?
[10:21] <dylan_> Seveas, even with the mplayer plugin there is no sound
[10:21] <LoVeLyPeRVeRT> can wisper me please, how repository can i use to upgrade ubuntu from 5.04 to 5.10?
[10:21] <blk> nathanel: xserver-xorg is only a dummy-package but i've got xserver-xorg-core i'm gonna try reconf'ing
[10:21] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: of course, you can just use a normal text editor; even gedit should be able to do that.
[10:21] <skreet> Okay I'm using a 20" widescreen at 1680x1050 on nvidia driver, and it keeps setting my monitor to 1680x525 (half of 1050) and I dont know why, any ideas?
[10:21] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell LoVeLyPeRVeRT about upgrade2breezy
[10:22] <botbuilder> anyway, I've created a 64 mb ext2 partition mounted on boot.  Should I make it bootable?
[10:22] <BiSK-8> apokryphos im not getting it
[10:22] <setite> skreet: dell 2005fpw
[10:22] <Seveas> dylan_, in that case maybe the sound track is corrupted/encrypted...
[10:22] <BiSK-8> apokryphos i want something automatic
[10:22] <botbuilder> then I've got a 1024mb swap partition
[10:22] <thoreauputic> !find libtermcap.a
[10:22] <eamonn> LoVeLyPeRVeRT, make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed (or kubuntu-desktop): apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. Then change all instances of Hoary to Breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list, then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" Repeat the second command until it completes successfully.
[10:22] <LoVeLyPeRVeRT> thanks all
[10:22] <dylan_> Seveas, for everything on the internet?
[10:22] <skreet> setite: No, Acer AL2032W, similar though.
[10:22] <Seveas> dylan_, hmmm
[10:22] <Seveas> sounds odd..
[10:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libtermcap.a' (2 shown): (/usr/lib64/libtermcap.a) in libs/amd64-libs-dev ;; (/usr/lib/libtermcap.a) in libdevel/libncurses5-dev.
[10:22] <Seveas> ao=esd (in mplayer.conf)
[10:22] <botbuilder> and a 45 GB reiserfs partition
[10:22] <setite> skreet: im not sure why... my monitor works fine automatically with 1680x1050....
[10:22] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: so how would i right that in the console?
[10:22] <BiSK-8> apokryphos: like i incert all the letters 2 decypher and it tries all the combos
[10:22] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: well, what do you mean? Whatever program you have you'd pretty much *have* to tell it first all the things to alter, so it can decypher them
[10:22] <botbuilder> do i need to make something 'bootable'?
[10:22] <botbuilder> holy shit
[10:22] <botbuilder> its imposible to ask a question lol!
[10:23] <skreet> setite: Theres an issue with the first run of the acers where the EDID is completely incorrect and does not report 1680x1050 - my manual modelines arn't working though.
[10:23] <BiSK-8> botbuilder, just ask
[10:23] <botbuilder> I have
[10:23] <botbuilder> i just like spreading it out
[10:23] <mata_svada> ompaul, I'm back
[10:23] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: hm
[10:23] <skreet> botbuilder: Bootable? No, all partitioning is done automatically.
[10:23] <ompaul> mata_svada, and how did it go?
[10:23] <botbuilder> uhm
[10:23] <setite> yea i could never work manual modelines on mine... so its not detecting them... check the forum for your monitor
[10:23] <mata_svada> the errors are written down here http://www.ubuntuusers.de/viewtopic.php?p=80857#80857
[10:23] <botbuilder> well I dont want it to fuckup skreet
[10:23] <botbuilder> so im doing it manual
[10:23] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: did you check the man page? ;-)
[10:23] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: dpkg -i --force-depends <pack>
[10:23] <skreet> setite: Apparently I'm the only person in the world who owns this monitor and has attempted to run linux on it.
[10:24] <ompaul> !tell botbuilder about conduct
[10:24] <botbuilder> i had to delete an old fedora core partition and stuffs
[10:24] <mata_svada> ompaul, It's in german, but you should be able to read the code
[10:24] <skreet> botbuilder: You're more likely to fuck it up than automatic install will.
[10:24] <thoreauputic> feugan3333: looks like you might need the  libraries for libncurses5-dev ?
[10:24] <dylan_> Seveas, where do i find mplayer.conf?  i did a search and it doesnt exist
[10:24] <BiSK-8> apokryphos: something like a brut forcer, but on letters and numbers, not on websites
[10:24] <BiSK-8> bryte*
[10:24] <botbuilder> skreet - dunno
[10:24] <BiSK-8> brute*
[10:24] <BiSK-8> grr
[10:24] <BiSK-8> :D
[10:24] <feugan3333> thoreauputic: thanks
[10:24] <nathanel> blk: umh, no. xserver-xorg is the correct package in breezy
[10:25] <mata_svada> by the way, it happened when I compiled mplayer
[10:25] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: one sec
[10:25] <feugan3333> thoreauputic: correct you are.
[10:25] <nathanel> blk: what version of xorg do you have?
[10:25] <thoreauputic> feugan3333: you can use !find for ubotu to find stuff like that BTW
[10:25] <skreet> setite: Any idea what forum might be able to help me?
[10:25] <ompaul> eamonn, u catch that - it ain'w what either of us tought
[10:25] <BiSK-8> ok
[10:25] <setite> the ubuntu forum .. or linux-questions
[10:25] <blk> nathanel: xserver-xorg depends on xserver-xorg-core and all kind of packages i don't need/want
[10:25] <eamonn> ompaul, I have no idea...
[10:26] <blk> nathanel: 6.8.2-67
[10:26] <skreet> setite: I guess I'll give it a shot, man I know I had this working on my old 6800GT AGP, but now I have a 6600GT PCI-e and no go.
[10:26] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: dpkg: unknown force/refuse option `libqt3c102-mt'
[10:26] <dylan_> Seveas, do you know the answer to this problem?
[10:26] <feugan3333> thoreauputic: Clever irc bot
[10:26] <Seveas> dylan_, /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf
[10:27] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: gah; it's being silly. You could try just installing the hoary libqt3c102-mt manually then
[10:27] <blk> nathanel: xserver's been modularised for that purpose -> i don't need any kind of weird input-device-drivers or drivers for other graphic-chips
[10:27] <dylan_> Seveas, ive changed the value...lets see if it works
[10:27] <eamonn> mata_svada, I'm afraid that's a bit over my head. How new is this installation? Can you save the data in /home and try to reinstall?
[10:27] <botbuilder> ok, I've got one 64mb boot ext2 partition, a 1GB swap partition, and a 45GB reserfs partition, all on another guy's recommendation.  Should I make one of these 'bootable' - ie the lightning bolt?
[10:27] <thoreauputic> feugan3333: he only knows what he gets told ;) Although cafuego has added some nice search functions
[10:27] <apokryphos> BiSK-8: no easy way to do it, that's for sure. I wouldn't want to whip up a script now :/
[10:28] <botbuilder> And, is this a good idea for a setup?
[10:28] <ssnet> hi
[10:28] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: not added, actually, just configured :P. Blootbot's come with that.
[10:28] <dylan_> Seveas, nothing
[10:28] <ssnet> i am new to linux and ubuntu
[10:28] <apokryphos> *Blootbots
[10:28] <BiSK-8> apokryphos: on win i had a program that was so easy 2 use, now im looking 4 something similar
[10:28] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: where would i find it?
[10:28] <Belutz> ssnet: so am I :)
[10:28] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: thanks for the correction ;-)
[10:28] <dylan_> Seveas, must i reboot or something to make the changes work?
[10:28] <ssnet> i just want to know how to mount my hard drives that i have installed windows on them
[10:28] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: packages.ubuntu.com =)
[10:29] <thoreauputic> !tell ssnet about mountwindows
[10:29] <Belutz> !tell ssnet about windowsdrives
[10:29] <Echelon-H> Do you know of an emule client which supports hebrew?
[10:29] <Belutz> :D
[10:29] <botbuilder> ok, I've got one 64mb boot ext2 partition, a 1GB swap partition, and a 45GB reserfs partition, all on another guy's recommendation.  Should I make one of these 'bootable' - ie the lightning bolt?
[10:29] <thoreauputic> botbuilder: sorry - what was that again?
[10:29] <setite> how do i chmod a folder
[10:30] <exzar> Hey
[10:30] <botbuilder> thoreauputic - I'm installing ubuntu
[10:30] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: you on i386?
[10:30] <mwr1515> ssnet: do you need to mount your hard drives?
[10:30] <Belutz> setite: chmod xxx foldername
[10:30] <setite> xxx
[10:30] <setite> ok
[10:30] <Belutz> setite: change the xxx :D
[10:30] <odatubuntu> apokrypos: yea
[10:30] <setite> ok then that doesnt help
[10:31] <setite> i tried a+x and no good
[10:31] <exzar> I need helt with my MP3 at my Ubuntu.. I just started with Linux all is working fine atm but my MP3 wont play:( Xmms wont work ... any one can help me ?.. plz msg....
[10:31] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/q/qt-x11-free/libqt3c102-mt_3.3.3-7ubuntu3_i386.deb
[10:31] <Belutz> setite: hmmm, try using sudo chmod ?
[10:31] <ompaul> mata_svada,  you have well broken it, I think what you should do is burn off your home directory onto a new CD, and then try booting into rescue mode and trying to remove the software that broke the installed system, there is something that you can do to remove this stuff like make uninstall -- not an expert in this but that may help
[10:32] <botbuilder> Not trying to be rude - the code of conduct etc but jeez this channel is crowded.. It'd be nice if it could be split into 2 or 3 like #python
[10:32] <setite> uh huh
[10:32] <eric_> hello all
[10:32] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: will that affect  the other libqt3-mt  ??
[10:32] <eric_> my first time with linux
[10:32] <ompaul> eamonn, that afik should do the trick but not an expert on it .. can help
[10:32] <setite> botbuilder: good luck twith that
[10:32] <apokryphos> botbuilder: it's not always this loud, and it is already split in fact in some way :)
[10:32] <botbuilder> thanks...
[10:32] <nathanel> blk: yes, but the xserver-xorg still provides the configuration infrastructure for the server; if you don't want to configure everything manually you need that package
[10:32] <thoreauputic> botbuilder: don't go to #debian or #gentoo if you think this is crowded :)
[10:32] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: nothing unrecoverable
[10:33] <eamonn> ompaul, I bow before a superior. I wish him luck.
[10:33] <poningru> whats up eric_
[10:33] <botbuilder> thor - hehe
[10:33] <poningru> guys if you have a question just ask it
[10:33] <eric_> not much
[10:33] <ompaul> eamonn, who?>
[10:33] <poningru> don linger
[10:33] <botbuilder> ok, I've got one 64mb boot ext2 partition, a 1GB swap partition, and a 45GB reserfs partition, all on another guy's recommendation.  Should I make one of these 'bootable' - ie the lightning bolt?
[10:33] <poningru> dont*
[10:33] <setite> botbuilder: youll get used to it... its not that bad ive seen infinitely worse
[10:33] <botbuilder> 3rd time ive pasted that ;)
[10:33] <apokryphos> botbuilder: there's #kubuntu #ubuntu #edubuntu #ubuntu-offtopic etc
[10:33] <eric_> any one know how to make a Wifi card work with linux
[10:33] <botbuilder> apok - thats good
[10:33] <jae> Well, got Ubuntu going.
[10:33] <poningru> eric_: what wifi card?
[10:33] <eamonn> eric_, what wifi card?
[10:34] <jae> Think I should install the Debian version of MacOnLinux or just grab the source and compile?
[10:34] <poningru> !tell eric_ about wifi
[10:34] <thoreauputic> eric_: could you be abit more vague?
[10:34] <eric_> I have one built into my notebook
[10:34] <exzar> Is there anyone that can help me with that mp3 problem ? msg me
[10:34] <aircooledmadness> join #ununtu-offtopic
[10:34] <eric_> bare with me please
[10:34] <nathanel> blk: do you have xlibs-data installed?
[10:34] <eric_> I believ it is a broadcom
[10:34] <ompaul> !tell eric_ about ndiswrapper
[10:34] <eric_> where do I go in linux to find out
[10:34] <poningru> eric_: do you have the installer for the thing?
[10:34] <poningru> .inf file
[10:35] <eric_> no
[10:35] <poningru> how did it work in windows?
[10:35] <eric_> the driver came with the note book on an install dvd
[10:35] <botbuilder> oh what the hell
[10:35] <botbuilder> I'll just guess
[10:35] <setite> poningru: how else do they work in windows
[10:35] <Seveas> thoreauputic, show-off ;)
[10:35] <botbuilder> and make a random partition bootable -_-
[10:35] <thoreauputic> ah well that works.. nice
[10:36] <apokryphos> heh
[10:36] <poningru> setite: *shrug*
[10:36] <thoreauputic> Seveas: hah - I was testing an alias :P
[10:36] <Seveas> :)
[10:36] <dv_> hmm how can I see if the correct DMA modes for my dvd-rom drive are set?
[10:36] <Seveas>  /kick #ubuntu thoreauputic Testing a kick...
[10:36] <waterbaby999> just reading up, are you having trouble with a broadcom wireless chipset? if so I'm about to tackle mine using this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25683
[10:36] <apokryphos> Hm, reminds me, I should make an alias for +q
[10:36] <dv_> I experience some stuttering when playing a DVD
[10:36] <Seveas> broadcoms are evil
[10:36] <Seveas> for some theey work, for some not
[10:36] <poningru> !tell dv_ about dma
[10:37] <thoreauputic> Seveas: OK OK - I promise to be humble ;)
[10:37] <waterbaby999> broadcom = irritating
[10:37] <guerby> hi, with ubuntu 2.10 in server mode is ssh-server enabled by default? (wasn't in 5.04)
[10:37] <Seveas> There is no ubuntu 2.10
[10:37] <setite> broadcom = evil and will ONLY work with ndiswrapper...
[10:37] <ssnet> thanks for the help
[10:37] <Seveas> if you mean 5.10: then still no
[10:38] <setite> the bcm5 soemthing driver on the dvd ... use that
[10:38] <eric_> is there a place in linux that will give me a list of connected hardware
[10:38] <setite> !hcl
[10:38] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, setite
[10:38] <setite> grrr... no hcl on ubotu
[10:38] <poningru> ubotu: you teh suck
[10:38] <ubotu> poningru: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:38] <Blissex> eric_: a few places is more like it.
[10:38] <Seveas> eric_, lshw / lshal / lcpci / lsusb
[10:38] <eric_> okay
[10:38] <Agrajag> lspci, not lcpci
[10:38] <Seveas> true :)
[10:39] <setite> ok how do i chown a folder so that i completely own it..
[10:39] <guerby> setite, ooops 5.10 :)
[10:39] <mindphasr> Any known problems with automounting flash cards? They seem to mount but i cant get them to show up in the "Computer" window like they used to..?
[10:39] <setite> i sudo chmod a+x /foo to no avail
[10:39] <guerby> Seveas, ok, any reason for that setting?
[10:39] <Seveas> yes
[10:40] <dv_> cool! DVDs are playing well now.
[10:40] <setite> no reasons.. there are no reasons in linux
[10:40] <Seveas> installing an ssh server is not always needed
[10:40] <setite> all of it is voodoo malarchy
[10:40] <guerby> Seveas, for a _server_ mode install?
[10:40] <Seveas> granted for servers it is usually useful, but 'server' mode is misnamed
[10:40] <blk> nathanel: that may have been a good tip, xlibs-data wasn't installed
[10:40] <thoreauputic> setite: hah :D
[10:41] <setite> thoreauputic: can you tell me how to own the folder... so i can get my wifi.. i found out why it doesnt work but i need to be able to download files to teh folder
[10:41] <guerby> Seveas, server mode is not for server?
[10:41] <eamonn> eric_, if your card isn't recognized on startup, you might have to use ndiswrapper (I do, and it works fine). Here's a thread on the forums that describes how to use it: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2649.html
[10:41] <mata_svada_> ompaul, did you read the error discription??
[10:42] <Seveas> guerby, 'server' installs only ubuntu-base, so ubuntu without fluffy desktop things
[10:42] <thoreauputic> setite: why do you actually need to chown / chmod ?
[10:42] <setite> eric_: if its a broadcom YOU HAVE TO USE NDISWRAPPER.. the drivers are closed as hell and there will NEVER be a linux driver
[10:42] <setite> thoreauputic: chown.. haha i was chmodding
[10:42] <guerby> Seveas, yes, exactly what is needed for servers in rack for example
[10:42] <Seveas> guerby, true :)
[10:42] <ompaul> mata_svada, scroll back 11 minutes to get my answer
[10:42] <guerby> Seveas, anyway I'll file a request to canonical for that
[10:42] <Seveas> guerby, it will not be changed
[10:43] <thoreauputic> setite:   voodoo a+x /path/to/malarchy ;P
[10:43] <Seveas> desktop systems install ubuntu-base too and on desktop systems an ssh server is against the ubuntu policy
[10:43] <setite> yea chowning isnt working.. gah
[10:43] <mata_svada> ompaul, could you please post it again?
[10:43] <guerby> Seveas, at least I'll get a reason why "server" mode doesn't install ssh-server
[10:43] <setite> nvm
[10:43] <Seveas> the reason is what I just said
[10:44] <Seveas> desktop systems install ubuntu-base too and on desktop systems an ssh server is against the ubuntu policy
[10:44] <odatubuntu> apokryphos:  i have it installed now so can i uninstall that libqt library and replace it with the newer one?
[10:44] <ompaul> mata_svada,  you have well broken it, I think what you should do is burn off your home directory onto a new CD, and then try booting into rescue mode and trying to remove the software that broke the installed system, there is something that you can do to remove this stuff like make uninstall -- not an expert in this but that may help
[10:44] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: yah
[10:44] <thoreauputic> setite: do you need to own evrything in the directory? chmod -R you:you
[10:44] <bulletino> Is there somebody from the netherlands ?
[10:44] <Seveas> bulletino, ja
[10:44] <Seveas> !nl
[10:44] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[10:45] <apokryphos> thoreauputic: chown, no?
[10:45] <setite> yea i got it... chown USER foo.. i forgot that....
[10:45] <thoreauputic> apokryphos: aargh - yes f course - brain lapse
[10:45] <setite> there was nothing oto own in the directory
[10:45] <robertj> has anyone here been following UbuntuExpress closely?
[10:45] <setite> because i couldnt put anything ther...
[10:45] <bulletino> oke dan :P
[10:45] <setite> all better now
[10:45] <thoreauputic> setite: sorry apokryphos is right
[10:45] <bulletino> dan ben ik toch niet de enigste :)
[10:46] <setite> thoreauputic: yup... i noticed the mistake :)
[10:46] <thoreauputic> setite: OK :)
[10:46] <Seveas> bulletino, er zijn er genoeg :) Maar hier praten we engels. Als je liever Nederlands praat, kom dan naar #ubuntu-nl
[10:46] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: k thanx a lot man i appreciate it :)
[10:46] <thoreauputic> setite: all that voodoo affected my brain ;-)
[10:47] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: no worries; good to hear it working. :)
[10:48] <odatubuntu> apokryphos:  hmmm if i try to remove and replace then it wants to remove qjoypad too
[10:48] <odatubuntu> :(
[10:49] <robertj> btw, anyone here have any of the golf shirts from cafepress? Are they comfortable?
[10:49] <setite> ok this tutorial is screwy
[10:49] <setite> http://lists.linux-wlan.com/pipermail/linux-wlan-devel/2004-September/003002.html
[10:49] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: ok, nevermind; you can just leave it.
[10:49] <setite> everythign is error
[10:49] <setite> ing
[10:49] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: as long as you keep the other packages installed.
[10:50] <odatubuntu> apokryphos: well when i installed libqt3 whatever  it uninstalled a ton of stuff that was dependant on the other
[10:51] <Hikaru79> Is it possible to mount an .iso image?
[10:51] <nightswim> yes
[10:51] <Hikaru79> Without burning it.
[10:51] <Hikaru79> nightswim, how? Just as a regular fs?
[10:51] <setite> thoreauputic: do you mind looking at that for any apparent flaws?
[10:51] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: the libqt3c102-mt removed other things?
[10:51] <regeya> wheee
[10:52] <odatubuntu> apokryphos, yea it removed about 5 things
[10:52] <thoreauputic> setite: looking - but I'm no expert I fear :)
[10:52] <setite> yes but your no idiot lik eme
[10:52] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: if you try to reinstall libqt3 now does it try to remove the qjoypad?
[10:53] <odatubuntu> apokryphos, yea
[10:53] <thoreauputic> setite: umm - how far did you get without errors?
[10:53] <setite> not far at all
[10:53] <thoreauputic> setite: quite a few lines to execute there...
[10:54] <setite> second step 2
[10:54] <setite> the tar
[10:54] <setite> even though i have that file in the folder
[10:54] <apokryphos> odatubuntu: hm, ok, annoying. If you can't compile at all from source, then only other real thing you can do is stay put (see if you get problems in the future), or modify the deb to change the dependencies
[10:54] <thoreauputic> setite: and what was the error?
[10:54] <setite> hold on something is screwy
[10:54] <setite> i think my chown didnt work right
[10:55] <setite> ls is not showing the files i know are there... ok lemme try something
[10:55] <gerarcone> how can i do to set the dimensions of the terminal window permanently?
[10:55] <Belutz> i'm off to bed guys
[10:56] <setite> also i see that his tutorial has a different ending for the patch... so i think the forum added the .obj
[10:56] <setite> nite Belutz
[10:56] <gerarcone> now i should resize it every time!
[10:56] <Belutz> nite setite :)
[10:57] <moonchilde> Hello, I have a Dell Inspiron 5100 that I just installed Ubuntu on, and I am trying to get the <Fn> F8 LCD/CRT keyboard switch to work and I am out of ideas.  I've trolled the web & forums to no avail.   Help would be appreciated! :)
[10:57] <setite> thoreauputic: please go to #flood
[10:58] <thoreauputic> setite: why not use the pastebin?
[10:58] <setite> dont lkike it.. and your already there... is see the problem though
[10:59] <setite> the guy forgot a -
[10:59] <setite> whats gzip do
[10:59] <ompaul> setite, the down side of #flood is that people do not have a single point of refence
[10:59] <setite> zip the file
[11:00] <setite> ompaul: indeed.. but for simple things i prefer flood.. if its real long.. or something i really want a log of... i use pastebin
[11:01] <red_blood> question: i have a device /dev/ttyLTM0, that is my winmodem device, its is created automatically at the boot, but my user haven't permissions to use it, then i do chmod a+rwx /dev/ttyLTM0... how i do that the permissions change automatically at the boot? (sorry for my english)
[11:02] <vlasto> hi guys
[11:02] <setite> ok thoreauputic new hangup
[11:02] <setite> suffix ifnored on step 3
[11:02] <setite> s/ifnored/ignored
[11:03] <inza> lo i have a little problem, i have xp installed and have a part of my HD free for linux, so I let ubuntu chose and make the partitions. But it gives an error if ubunti is installing. It says: "unable to install the selected kernel". Could someone help me??
[11:03] <setite> the file is a .patch.obj.. i renamed it to that of the tutorial... no avail
[11:03] <Daedalus> what is sequencer? i'm trying to run mma or pmidi and it can't work because i dont have /dev/sequencer.
[11:05] <thoreauputic> setite:  gzip -d linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1pre21-x86_64.patch.bz2  <-- why would he be using gzip to unzip a bz2 ? I don't follow that
[11:05] <Seveas> hehehe
[11:05] <botbuilder> ok
[11:05] <eric_> okay sorry to bother again I need help installing a driver and I know little about linux
[11:05] <Seveas> bzip2 -d would work better :)
[11:05] <botbuilder> I've gotten ubuntu to boot and everything
[11:06] <apokryphos> or even tar
[11:06] <botbuilder> now xwindows throws a fit
[11:06] <nathanel> Daedalus: /dev/sequencer the device node to access the midi hardware on your soundchard
[11:06] <jtan325> is there a music player that has search functionality, similiar to itunes/winamp?
[11:06] <Seveas> tar would do nothing :)
[11:06] <botbuilder> how do i start xwindows..
[11:06] <botbuilder> lol
[11:06] <Daedalus> nathanel, and if i dont have one?
[11:06] <Daedalus> nathanel, btw, are you from israel?
[11:06] <Seveas> botbuilder, did you install with server or expert option?
[11:07] <apokryphos> Seveas: whoop, only saw the very last suffix there
[11:07] <nathanel> Daedalus: no
[11:07] <ganjaben> salut
[11:07] <setite> thoreauputic: yea i see that is the problem... i dunno.. .hes stupid perhaps?
[11:07] <setite> but hes on to something... so imma work through his flawed tutorial
[11:07] <ganjaben> a chaque foix que vous me voyez ici, c'est windows qui plante exag ^^
[11:08] <thoreauputic> bunzip2 ?
[11:08] <setite> whats gzip -d anyway
[11:08] <Seveas> ganjaben, english please
[11:08] <ganjaben> sorry i go in french lol
[11:08] <thoreauputic> setite: equivalent to gunzip
[11:08] <setite> well doesnt tar work for bz2
[11:08] <Madpilot> ganjaben: try #ubuntu-fr
[11:08] <Seveas> setite, no
[11:08] <Seveas> tar works for tar
[11:08] <thoreauputic> setite: it isn't a tar file
[11:08] <Seveas> optionally for tar.gz and tar.bz2
[11:08] <Seveas> but not for patch.bz2 :)
[11:08] <setite> thoreauputic: whey does line 2 use tar on a bz2
[11:09] <setite> oh ok
[11:09] <ompaul> difference is 15 mins arrrr
[11:09] <setite> so what do i need to use... bunzip2?
[11:09] <Seveas> Sun Sep 18 21:09:18 UTC 2005
[11:09] <nathanel> Daedalus: if you have no supported midi hardware you could try some software emulation like timidity. if you have a midi capable soundcard you are very likely just missing a driver for it
[11:09] <Seveas> ompaul,  :)
[11:09] <thoreauputic> setite: tar xvjf if it's a tar.bz2
[11:09] <Logtime> i've installed pftp how can launch it???
[11:09] <red_blood> question: i have a device /dev/ttyLTM0, that is my winmodem device, its is created automatically at the boot, but my user haven't permissions to use it, then i do chmod a+rwx /dev/ttyLTM0... how i do that the permissions change automatically at the boot? (sorry for my english)..
[11:09] <setite> i dotn wknow ahwat it is
[11:09] <Logtime> i've installed pftp how can launch it???
[11:09] <ompaul> Seveas, mailing list 2.6 kernel something
[11:09] <setite> the file is a patch.obj
[11:09] <joakim> How can I stream .pls files? Which player? I tried XMMS, and it aint really working :)
[11:09] <setite> ark opens it as a .bz2
[11:10] <robertj> nathanel: how many hardware cards don't do midi these days?
[11:10] <mindframe> how do i add a binary to my users path?
[11:10] <Logtime> i've installed pftp how can launch it???
[11:10] <robertj> nathanel: including on-board
[11:10] <thoreauputic> setite:  run  'file" on it
[11:10] <Seveas> joakim: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[11:10] <Seveas> Logtime: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[11:10] <setite> file?
[11:10] <setite> ok
[11:10] <thoreauputic> setite:  like  file foo  ( tells you what it actually is)
[11:11] <Logtime> oookkk
[11:11] <mindframe> Logtime, maybe type pftd in a terminal ?
[11:11] <nadroj> hi all, i have no sound. alsamixer is unmuted and turned up, and sound card is recognized and said to be running.  what could be causing the problem?
[11:11] <joakim> Seveas, I can play normal .mp3 files with XMMS, but I can't seem to get XMMS to stream files. Did I misunderstand your instruction or was it the other way round? :)
[11:11] <mindframe> *ptfp
[11:11] <setite> linux-wlan-ng-0.2.1pre21-x86_64.patch.obj: bzip2 compressed data, block size = 900k
[11:11] <Seveas> joakim, discard my instruction then
[11:11] <thoreauputic> setite: there you go
[11:11] <eric_> could someone direct me to some good newbie reading material so I can figure out how to install a driver??
[11:11] <Seveas> .pls is a playlist, try one of the streams from that list
[11:11] <Creart> a question; Is it possible to use multiple monitors with ubuntu?
[11:11] <setite> ok well what do i use with it
[11:11] <setite> ok nvm imma use ark
[11:12] <apokryphos> eric_: the wiki is always great
[11:12] <slack7384> Creart: You should be able to, if your vid card supports it ;-)
[11:12] <thoreauputic> setite:  bunzip2 normally
[11:12] <Seveas> setite, bzip2 -d linux-blabla.patch.bz2 | patch -p0
[11:12] <eric_> wikipedia??
[11:12] <Seveas> eric_, wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:12] <eric_> okay
[11:12] <eric_> gotya
[11:12] <Echelon-H> how can i get /dev/sequencer?
[11:12] <Logtime> help?
[11:12] <Creart>  slack7384: it does... but i can't find the menu...
[11:13] <thoreauputic> Seveas: I assume bzip2 -d is equivalent to bunzip2 ?
[11:13] <Madpilot> does anyone know where Enemy Territory stores it's .desktop file?
[11:13] <Logtime> Anyone use pftp???
[11:13] <Seveas> thoreauputic, I assume the same :)
[11:13] <thoreauputic> OK :)
[11:13] <setite> damnit ark keeps freezing up my pc when i attempt to extract the file
[11:13] <Echelon-H> how can i get /dev/sequencer?
[11:13] <waterbaby999> im getting a whole load of errors with trying to apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils .. anyone able to help?  Dependency problems possibly
[11:13] <RMeist> hi *,
[11:13] <setite> what do i use for bz2 that is not .tar.bz2
[11:13] <Seveas> waterbaby999, paste the entire load on the pastebin
[11:13] <apokryphos> waterbaby999: pastebin the problems then produce the url here
[11:13] <Seveas> setite, bzip2 -d
[11:14] <waterbaby999> its on another machine
[11:14] <waterbaby999> gimme a sec
[11:14] <thoreauputic> Echelon-H: you probably need to modprobe some modules ( snd_seq  or something similar )
[11:14] <RMeist> q: does ubuntu's apt-get work with debian sites?
[11:14] <Echelon-H> modprobe?
[11:14] <Seveas> RMeist, yes, but you should NOT mix ubuntu and debian
[11:14] <apokryphos> RMeist: you should generally use it
[11:14] <apokryphos> *shouldn't
[11:15] <thoreauputic> setite: we already told you that, old boy ^^^
[11:15] <Seveas> RMeist, almost all that's in debian is in Ubuntu, what do you want to grab from debian?
[11:15] <Logtime> i've installed pftp how can launch it???
[11:15] <Seveas> Logtime: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[11:15] <waterbaby999> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2316
[11:15] <RMeist> Seveas: I'd like to apt-get eterm but its not in my downloaded package list, so nothing deb specific
[11:15] <Echelon-H> thoreauputic, what's modprobe and the snd_seq?
[11:15] <apokryphos> RMeist: it's in the repos
[11:16] <Seveas> RMeist, there's an UBuntu package for eterm
[11:16] <Seveas> !info eterm
[11:16] <ubotu> eterm: (Enlightened Terminal Emulator), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.2-8 (hoary), Packaged size: 427 kB, Installed size: 1088 kB
[11:16] <apokryphos> RMeist: make sure you enable the Universe repo
[11:16] <Seveas> !repos
[11:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[11:16] <thoreauputic> Echelon-H: modules are "drivers" in  your kernel - modprobe activates them (more or less)
[11:16] <setite> nah you said bunzip2
[11:16] <Logtime> Seveas, oooookkkkkkkkkkk
[11:16] <RMeist> apokryphos: let me modify my source.list
[11:16] <setite> and i didnt know the -d either
[11:16] <Echelon-H> thoreauputic, and the snd_seq is a driver ipresume?
[11:16] <Echelon-H> how am i supopsed to get it?
[11:16] <apokryphos> Logtime: please don't be annoying; it's common courtesey to not flood :)
[11:17] <thoreauputic> Echelon-H: if you are trying to get midi working I can get you a few links...
[11:17] <Echelon-H> thoreauputic, i'd be more than happy.
[11:17] <joakim> Seveas, thanks, I got it working with another radio stream.
[11:17] <Logtime> apokryphos,  oooookkkkk
[11:17] <camil> huzeirkr
[11:18] <thoreauputic> Echelon-H: OK - this is an ugly URL from my bookmarks :)
[11:18] <thoreauputic> http://www.lesbell.com.au/Home.nsf/0/c4b39482154feb03ca256f8100150ad9?OpenDocument
[11:18] <mindframe> Logtime: google.com
[11:18] <Psyche-> hello there
[11:18] <thoreauputic> Echelon-H: ^^^^
[11:18] <Psyche-> i'm trying to make a kernel upgrade
[11:18] <RMeist> apokryphos: its set to universe:S
[11:18] <Echelon-H> thoreauputic, hehe, thx. ill check it out
[11:18] <Psyche-> so i did 'apt-get install linux-image-2.6.11-1-k7'
[11:18] <Seveas> Psyche-, BAD idea
[11:18] <thoreauputic> Echelon-H: also http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8736.html
[11:18] <apokryphos> RMeist: sorry?
[11:18] <Psyche-> system boots ok, but it freezes when starting gnome
[11:18] <Seveas> the 2.6.11 packages are known to be broken and unsupported
[11:18] <Seveas> downgrade to 2.6.10
[11:19] <Psyche-> Seveas, how do I uninstall it?
[11:19] <Seveas> Psyche-, reboot and choose the 2.6.10 kernel
[11:19] <RMeist> Seveas: my repo is set to universe, apt-get however doesn't recognize eterm
[11:19] <setite> woot config successful.. maybe this will work
[11:19] <Psyche-> yeah, did that already
[11:19] <RMeist> apokryphos: my repo is set to universe, apt-get however doesn't recognize eterm
[11:19] <RMeist> Seveas: sorry
[11:19] <Psyche-> but i want o remove that package too
[11:19] <Seveas> RMeist, there is no such thing as 'set to universe'
[11:19] <apokryphos> RMeist: did you check the link provided?
[11:19] <Psyche-> and free some space
[11:19] <setite> ahhhH!!H!H!H!H!
[11:19] <setite> still erroring
[11:19] <setite> ok screw this... windows...
[11:19] <Seveas> Psyche-, remove all linux-2.6.11 packages with synaptic
[11:20] <apokryphos> RMeist: once the line wiht universe is uncommented, sudo apt-get update && sudo aptitude install eterm
[11:20] <RMeist> apokryphos: yes,
[11:20] <Seveas> RMeist, paste your sources.list on the pastebin
[11:20] <Psyche-> ok, guess i should follow the instructions about compiling a new kernel at wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:20] <RMeist> ok:)
[11:20] <Seveas> Psyche-, no, you should stick to ubuntu-provided kernels
[11:20] <fortnox> Hey guys
[11:20] <Seveas> why do you want to upgrade?
[11:20] <Psyche-> Seveas, for the sound to work
[11:20] <mindframe> ompaul, how should i go about enabling java since sun wont let ubuntu distribute a package?
[11:20] <Seveas> Psyche-, then you'd better completely upgrade to Breezy
[11:20] <Psyche-> Seveas, in debian it works fine after a kernel update
[11:21] <ompaul> Seveas, are those packages back?
[11:21] <Psyche-> hmm, but Breezy is not final, afaik
[11:21] <Seveas> ompaul, yah :)
[11:21] <waterbaby999> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2316 <-- problem with trying to install ndiswrapper if anyone's able to help :)
[11:21] <Seveas> Psyche-, no, but it's in good shape
[11:21] <Psyche-> but i can't find packages like smarty, phpmyadmin, gnomad2 in breezy
[11:21] <Psyche-> is it safe to use 5.04 repositories too ?
[11:21] <ompaul> mindframe, lets just say do it the way you were going to they have been restorted the interenet is a strange and wonderful thing
[11:22] <Seveas> waterbaby999, dpkg -P console-data
[11:22] <blk> nathanel: thanks for your help it kinda worked..
[11:22] <ompaul> mindframe, that might be internet
[11:22] <Seveas> waterbaby999, aptitude install ubuntu-minimal
[11:22] <waterbaby999> errors from that
[11:22] <mindframe> hah
[11:22] <bamama> how to install kernel source in ubuntu?
[11:22] <Seveas> bamama, apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10
[11:22] <waterbaby999> errors from second as well .. will paste
[11:22] <ompaul> mindframe, working yet?
[11:23] <mindframe> ompaul, still cant see the package.  do i need to add a hoary-backport source?
[11:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> can anyone offer me any advice getting my sound working after changing kernels.  it stops working whenever i change kernels, and then i have to muck with it for hours for it to suddenly work for no apparent reason.
[11:23] <ompaul> mindframe, apt-get update
[11:23] <Seveas> Psyche-, phpmyadmin is in breezy too
[11:23] <Seveas> look better
[11:23] <blk> nathanel: now i just can't access Alt-Gr keys because it's an apple keyboard and the mapping of the key to mode_Switch doesn't seem to work as it once did..
[11:23] <mindframe> did.
[11:23] <ompaul> mindframe, sudp apt-get update
[11:23] <ompaul> mindframe, sudo apt-get update <<<<<<<<<< correct version
[11:23] <p8ntballer> hey how do i login to root
[11:23] <p8ntballer> ??
[11:23] <p8ntballer> it never gave me a password
[11:23] <Seveas> p8ntballer, not
[11:23] <ompaul> !tell p8ntballer about root
[11:23] <Seveas> you should not need that
[11:24] <waterbaby999> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2317
[11:24] <p8ntballer> i need to get permission to my var/www folder
[11:24] <ompaul> p8ntballer, bot messaged url  will tell you everything you need
[11:24] <p8ntballer> for my apache server
[11:24] <mindframe> ompaul, still not showing up when i apt-cache search sun-j2re1.5
[11:24] <inza> type 'su'
[11:24] <RMeist> *, tnx :)
[11:24] <Seveas> p8ntballer, sudo chmod *whatever you want*
[11:24] <Seveas> mindframe, mind if I send you a private message?
[11:24] <mindframe> go ahead.
[11:24] <blk> could someone please tell my to what your Alt-Gr key is mapped in xev (e.g. left ctrl is Control_L)?
[11:25] <bamama> how to open NTFS partition in ubuntu?
[11:25] <ttrocal> Hello, I just tried to dist-upgrade to the Breezy preview from Hoary, but a system instability problem that's been plaguing me restarted the X-server halfway through and killed synaptic.  Now all the packages are in limbo, and I can't even get the x-server to start.  dpkg --configure -a yields the error 'Processing was halted because there were too many errors.'  How can I get the dist-upgrade restarted?
[11:25] <fortnox> hey could anyone help me out with this problem I have?
[11:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> fortnox you'll have to ask the question first.
[11:25] <BROKEN_LADDER> then we'll know
[11:25] <blk> ttrocal: try apt-get -f install
[11:25] <Draal> noob question ~ When installing programs, is it possible to pick a default directory to install to that is on another partition? Also, is it possible to load settings/program files to another partition?
[11:25] <Seveas> Draal, no/no
[11:26] <BROKEN_LADDER> i can't get sound working, although the light comes on on my spdif connection, and xmms shows eq bars as if it's playing.
[11:26] <ttrocal> blk: It stops with an error saying that Gnumeric needs to be reinstalled but it can't find the archive.
[11:26] <fortnox> well when i do a "fglrxinfo" i get - Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:26] <fortnox>  - although i do not use xfree and its not installed
[11:26] <Draal> Seveas ~ Why not? I don't feel comfortable having my files/programs on the same partition as my OS
[11:26] <Madpilot> omp: I know that feeling... ;)
[11:26] <Seveas> Draal, you're too windows-minded
[11:26] <thoreauputic> Draal: the files have to go in the right places as dicated by the package management etc - you don't screw around with it
[11:26] <Seveas> don't worry about such things
[11:26] <Madpilot> ompaul: meh... I know the burn-the-PC feeling... (blasted tab-complete...)
[11:27] <Echelon-H> what is the alsa package in sudo apt-get install?
[11:27] <Draal> Seveas, so what happens if I need to reinstall the OS/
[11:27] <erUSUL> well, my first question here... i have problems mounting a partition. it have always mounted it without problems but now
[11:27] <Draal> ?
[11:27] <erUSUL> (i use it from time to time so i do not know when exactly it began to fail) it is imposible. Is vfat and mount always return
[11:27] <erUSUL> that the device is already mounted or that the mount point is busy. *Any clue?*
[11:27] <RMeist> Seveas: pasted on pastebin
[11:27] <blk> ttrocal: maybe dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/gnumeric* followd by an apt-get -f install
[11:27] <pluffsy> hello
[11:27] <Draal> Seveas, or how do I create a single directory for me to backup?
[11:27] <ompaul> Draal, put them in places and invent something new - it may have a Linux Kernel but it will not be Ubuntu or any linux that anyone else will ever work on :)
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Draal: you don't need to reinstall the OS - this is linux
[11:28] <blk> can someone please start xev and tell me to what Alt-Gr is bound?
[11:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> Seveas a lot of the programs you have, ARE your OS.
[11:28] <pluffsy> can I somehow tell a harddrive to erm I'm not sure what it's called. stop spinning, sleep or whatever.
[11:28] <BROKEN_LADDER> err.. Draal
[11:28] <oO[NOVA] Oo> question: weird thing with USB external harddisk casing. i plug it in, absolutely nothing happens (that i can see). is there anything i can do to find some more debug info on usb devices or get some help on this?
[11:28] <Seveas> Draal, you probably only want to backup /etc and /home
[11:28] <ompaul> blk, run xev and see for yourself
[11:28] <eventualbuddha> i'm having a problem installing freetds: http://rafb.net/paste/results/VeWz7H95.html
[11:28] <pluffsy> right now it takes quite some time of not using my disk until it spins down
[11:28] <Hoxzer> what could be the problem if my floppy can't read like anything and in windows it is reading well
[11:28] <eventualbuddha> any ideas?
[11:28] <RMeist> oO[NOVA] Oo: dmesg?
[11:28] <tristanmike> Draal, why exactly do you feel uncomfortable having your programs on the same drive?
[11:28] <erUSUL> for the record knoppix mount it without problems
[11:28] <Seveas> RMeist, that sources.list is fubar
[11:28] <oO[NOVA] Oo> RMeist: i'll google on that and see if i can find something
[11:29] <RMeist> Seveas: :S
[11:29] <ompaul> Draal, as Seveas siad with any web if you do that
[11:29] <Seveas> RMeist, use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d969 as sources.list
[11:29] <blk> ompaul: i've got an apple keyboard here and i'm trying to get a standard pc105 keyboard out of it
[11:29] <BROKEN_LADDER> could anyone give me even the most modest help getting my sound working?
[11:29] <Draal> Tristanmike; reinstalling the os and having one place to look for to backup my files
[11:29] <waterbaby999> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2317 <-- the errors i got when doing what was suggested in response to my previous comment .. not sure if anyone saw me paste the link earlier ... rather busy today ;)
[11:29] <ttrocal> blk: That returned errors, but I went ahead and tried to -f install again anyway and it seems to be working now.  Thanks, I'll wait untill it's done with that, now...
[11:29] <Seveas> Draal, again you're too windows minded
[11:29] <ompaul> blk, then maybe I'll tell ya hang on
[11:29] <Seveas> reinstalling is not needed on linux
[11:29] <Draal> Seveas ~ Linux is not fool proof
[11:29] <Seveas> true
[11:29] <Gnonthgol> BROKEN_LADDER: what card?
[11:29] <_Logtime> hi
[11:29] <blk> ompaul: that'd be very kind!
[11:30] <eventualbuddha> anyone know anything about freetds?
[11:30] <Seveas> but the windows approach between separating os and programs is foolish (where would you draw the line?)
[11:30] <thoreauputic> Draal: of course, but it is normally fixable after the fool is finished ;P
[11:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> Gnonthgol ICH5 onboard audio.  Realtek chipset.
[11:30] <tristanmike> Draal, I think it's more of a case of getting use to the way Linux does things, and how you back up your files with it
[11:30] <Seveas> backing up /home (where you store personal data) and /etc (configuration) is enough
[11:30] <BROKEN_LADDER> Gnonthgol i think it uses ac97
[11:31] <Draal> Tristanmike ~ alright.. Then I guess what I am asking, is there a way to simplify the backup proccess?
[11:31] <kevor> how do i put kerneloption CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y ??
[11:31] <tristanmike> Draal, see Seveas comment just above
[11:31] <blk> kevor: nano -w /usr/src/linux/.config
[11:32] <kevor> that requeres a recompile of the kernel?
[11:32] <Seveas> Draal, simple backup: tar zcvf /tmp/backup.tar.gz /home /etc
[11:32] <Seveas> kevor, yes
[11:32] <kevor> hmm
[11:32] <kevor> is that riscy Seveas
[11:32] <Seveas> kevor, yes
[11:32] <Seveas> it is if you don't know what you are doing
[11:32] <tristanmike> honest
[11:32] <Alec`> Q: does ubuntu have option not to overwrite MBR during install?
[11:32] <RMeist> Seveas: I thank you
[11:32] <Draal> Thanks "cough"
[11:32] <Seveas> and enabling CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL without kernel knowledge is VERY risky
[11:32] <kevor> is there another way to get on a VPN network with ubuntu?
[11:33] <p8ntballer> i cant get permissions to my www/var folder
[11:33] <Seveas> kevor, openvpn, vpnc ...
[11:33] <krak> Hello
[11:33] <p8ntballer> how do i do that?
[11:33] <kevor> tried vpnc, but that really blows :)
[11:33] <Seveas> p8ntballer, sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /var/www
[11:33] <Draal> Seveas ~ Will that cover all personal files and program settings?
[11:33] <Seveas> yes
[11:33] <Gnonthgol> Seveas: Is emu10k1 in the kernel? what versions?
[11:33] <krak> is here any good person which knows little of bash scripting??
[11:33] <ompaul> blk, paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:33] <Seveas> Gnonthgol, it is there, don't know which version
[11:34] <Seveas> krak, #bash
[11:34] <geneo93> depends on which kernel
[11:34] <thoreauputic> Draal: your settings are mostly in dot files (hidden files in linux) in your /home/you directory
[11:34] <Seveas> or ask your specific question
[11:34] <krak> yes bash
[11:34] <BROKEN_LADDER> okay, i can get sound through my analog output, just not my spdif.
[11:34] <thoreauputic> Draal: more general settings are mostly in /etc
[11:34] <blk> ompaul: thanks a lot
[11:34] <krak> ok
[11:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> and now the digital is working. too.
[11:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> dammit
[11:35] <Alec`> Q: does Ubuntu have option not to overwrite MBR during installation?
[11:35] <ompaul> Draal, and the os does not rely on the file extention to make it executable its just not windows :)
[11:35] <BROKEN_LADDER> this just makes no sense!!  i spent hours trying to get my audio working, then it just works suddenly for no FU&**ing reason!!!
[11:35] <waterbaby999> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2317 <-- the errors i got when doing what was suggested in response to my previous comment .. not sure if anyone saw me paste the link earlier but would appreciate some help if ya have time :)
[11:35] <slack7384> Alec: I think so, but it is an advanced option ;-)
[11:35] <Draal> Ompaul ~ Seems to be my mistake
[11:36] <Draal> Is it possible to define /etc as another partition then?
[11:36] <Seveas> waterbaby999, dpkg -P --force-depends console-data
[11:36] <thoreauputic> Draal: no, /etc/is part of / (root)
[11:36] <Seveas> Draal, that's agains filesystem standards
[11:36] <blk> ompaul: it's even working :)
[11:36] <Seveas> (which means: it may be technically possible, but it will break things)
[11:36] <Draal> Okay.. Thank you
[11:36] <Seveas> putting /home on a different partition is common practice though :)
[11:37] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, it works for a reason,  something you did between the last time you tested it and now, up arrow can show shell commands, and language is something we can do without
[11:37] <Gnonthgol> Seveas: well, my SB Live! worked in Warthy but not in Hoary. I have met others facing the same problem eaven in Breazy
[11:37] <Draal> Ah.. Alright
[11:37] <Alec`> slack7384: i am advanced enough, managed to install debian and mepis so my NT loader was intact. Now I heard Ubuntu is very user-friendly and afraid it will overwrite MBR by default. Now where can I tweak that?
[11:37] <waterbaby999> ok Seveas, i did that ... it did some stuff
[11:37] <waterbaby999> shall i try again?
[11:37] <ompaul> blk, why am I not surprised :)
[11:37] <Seveas> waterbaby999, paste the output on the bin
[11:37] <waterbaby999> oklies
[11:37] <thoreauputic> Draal: usually you would have a / partition, a swap partiton and a /home partition (although that's not necessary either)
[11:37] <ompaul> Draal, you can do this
[11:38] <Seveas> waterbaby999, good!
[11:38] <waterbaby999> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2320
[11:38] <slack7384> Alec`: There should be a CD-boot cheat code that allows you to install GRUB on an floppy
[11:38] <Draal> Ompaul ~ I have Ubuntu installed now along with Gentoo
[11:38] <Seveas> suso apt-get install console-data
[11:38] <Draal> Switching to debian once the discs come in
[11:38] <Draal> Thank you all very much
[11:39] <waterbaby999> was that @ me Seveas?
[11:39] <Seveas> waterbaby999, yes, but it has a typo :)
[11:39] <Seveas> apt-get install console-data
[11:39] <waterbaby999> i was wondering
[11:39] <ompaul> Draal, partition the disk with one partition for /boot another for /bin another for / and another for /home - BUT they all must exist and you do this configuration at install time the only thing that ubuntu and gentoo can safely share are the swap file and personal data that is not related to configuration of mail web browsers as this changes over time
[11:39] <waterbaby999> in my noob state i actually guessed that :P
[11:39] <Alec`> slack7384: floppy is not an option unfortunately. I want grub to be in /boot directory
[11:39] <Gnonthgol> Seveas: can you tell me what difrence there is to the sound drivers in warty and the other?
[11:39] <thoreauputic> ompaul: he left :)
[11:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul no, there's no pattern or rhyme or reason to it.  i do different things every time, and it suddenly "just works"
[11:40] <waterbaby999> Seveas: you want me to paste _all that_ into pastebin? :o
[11:40] <ompaul> thoreauputic, such a nice waste of time
[11:40] <Seveas> waterbaby999, does it output a lot?
[11:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul i even restore a saved copy of the config, and that doesn't fix it.
[11:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> and this happens every time i change my kernel, no matter what.
[11:40] <Seveas> Gnonthgol, ESD
[11:40] <slack7384> Alec`: There should be a cheat for that too.
[11:40] <waterbaby999> Seveas: erm, you could say that :P
[11:40] <persia> Could someone help with with my X keyboard configuration?  I have a Japanese keyboard.  When I set XkbLayout to "jp", the '] ' key does't work, and when I set it to "jp106", the '_' key doesn't work.  Any suggestions?
[11:40] <Seveas> waterbaby999, try to paste it all
[11:41] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, there is some reason, it is just beyond you - why the [many stars in place of words]  are you replacing your kernel
[11:41] <thoreauputic> ompaul: yes, there's some kind of correlation between the windows minded and sudden departures - maybe the reboot reflex?
[11:41] <Seveas> or at least the first 20 lines
[11:41] <waterbaby999> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2321
[11:41] <Turicas> hello all...how i can watch .wmv movies in ubuntu?
[11:41] <red_blood> question: i have a device /dev/ttyLTM0, that is my winmodem device, its is created automatically at the boot, but my user haven't permissions to use it, then i do chmod a+rwx /dev/ttyLTM0... how i do that the permissions change automatically at the boot? (sorry for my english)..
[11:41] <Seveas> waterbaby999, congratz
[11:41] <ompaul> thoreauputic, no doubt but you are right
[11:41] <Seveas> problem is solved :)
[11:41] <Turicas> red_blood, what do you speak ? portuguese?
[11:42] <waterbaby999> groovy beans ... we shall see :)
[11:42] <red_blood> spanish
[11:42] <Seveas> groovy beans.... omg :)
[11:42] <waterbaby999> wahoo
[11:42] <slack7384> Alec`: When Ubuntu asks you if you want to install grub in the mbr say no and type in /dev/hda# (The # is the number of you root partions in my case hda3).
[11:42] <waterbaby999> yah sorry .. im allowed, im a rare breed known as a female :P
[11:42] <Seveas> I've never eaten groovy beans :)
[11:42] <ompaul> Seveas, well there is the phrase - cool beans
[11:42] <waterbaby999> cool beans hot gravy :P
[11:42] <waterbaby999> but i say groovy beans :P
[11:42] <[LethAL] > !tell Turicas about restrictedformats
[11:43] <waterbaby999> now to poke me wifi card into existance
[11:43] <Alec`> slack7384: that wouldbe great. in my case it'd be sda3 then. You sure it asks for that during installation?
[11:43] <persia> red_blood: The easiest way to do that is probably to add your user to the group that has permissions.  If you really want to change the default permissions, take a look at /etc/udev/persmissions.d/
[11:43] <slack7384> Alec`: It should ask where to install GRUB if you say no to installing on the MBR.
[11:43] <BROKEN_LADDER> sure there's a "reason" ompaul.  there's always a reason.  but it's nothing consistent that fixes it.  it has to be related to some type of bug, because there's no consistency to it.
[11:44] <red_blood> thanks persia
[11:44] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, why do you change your kernel?
[11:44] <Alec`> slack7384: then I will proceed to installation without worrying. Thank you
[11:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul in this case, it wasn't working, so i connected the regular line in, not the spdif, and it worked.  i switched back over to the digital line, and wham! it worked
[11:44] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul upgrades.
[11:44] <slack7384> Alec`: No problem
[11:44] <Hoxzer> just cause im not talking dont mean I'm not listeninggg
[11:45] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul in this case 2.6.blah-5 instead of 2.6.blah
[11:45] <Hoxzer> you know I love youuu baabyyy try to understaaand
[11:45] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, try having a look in alsamixer - just curious what soundcard?
[11:45] <xerxas_> why debian isn't using dmix ?
[11:45] <Hoxzer> I a maaan on the missiooon
[11:45] <Hoxzer> maybeeeee its magic maaybeee its a chemical reaction :)
[11:45] <xerxas_> s/debian/ubuntu
[11:45] <waterbaby999> woooooooot i think it wooooooooooooooooorks
[11:45] <persia> xerxas_: For Hoary, there are instructions to use dmix in /usr/share/doc/libasound2/examples.  For Breezy, dmix is on by default.
[11:46] <Hoxzer> Waterbaby: are you a girl or a women?
[11:46] <mushroomblue> so, uh.
[11:46] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, hoary / breezy and kernel?
[11:46] <mushroomblue> what's the command to start applications at boot?
[11:46] <waterbaby999> Hoxzer: Depends who is asking :P
[11:46] <xerxas_> persia, i'm on breezy and didn't even noticed i'm using dmix
[11:46] <tristanmike> where would we be without awesome peeps like Seveas and thoreauputic?
[11:46] <mushroomblue> I know the gentoo one, but not ubuntu. :)
[11:46] <Seveas> mushroomblue, there is none
[11:46] <Seveas> you need to add the application to the boot or login script
[11:46] <mushroomblue> wtf
[11:46] <Seveas> tristanmike, at rock bottom :)
[11:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> 2.6.10-34.5 hoary..i thought breezy wasn't out yet.
[11:47] <thoreauputic> tristanmike: probably outside enjoying the sunshine ;)
[11:47] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, it is in testing
[11:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> Card: Intel ICH5                                                                                                                                          
[11:47] <BROKEN_LADDER>  Chip: Realtek ALC650F
[11:47] <bamama> can somebody tell me where I can download "linux-source-2.6.10" package? (link
[11:47] <tristanmike> still staring at the Install Splash Screen wondering if I should press return :)
[11:47] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, it is in test mode - there are a lot of changes every day
[11:47] <BROKEN_LADDER> bamama you could use apt-get i believe
[11:47] <persia> bamana: sudo aptitude install linux-source-2.6.10 should work.
[11:48] <ttrocal> Alright, thanks to blk's suggestion I think I've finished the apt-get upgrade, but there are four packages that are still broken by dependancy problems (postfix, mutt, lsb-core, and mailx).  I figure one of those must be important, because the X server crashes on startup.  What to do now?
[11:48] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, why don't you download the 'live cd' from the daily run and try it cdimage.ubuntu.com
[11:48] <CarlFK> im back on my dialup kick.  is NetworkMagic spozed to do anything with modems?
[11:48] <bamama> BROKEN_LADDER: i tried apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 but it couldn't find the package
[11:48] <Seveas> ttrocal, can you paste the error you get when trying to upgrade these packages
[11:48] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul there is a vague chance that my old receiver just wasn't playing the signal, but the coincidence with kernel changes makes that seem less likely to be the culprit.
[11:48] <Seveas> ttrocal, also: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:48] <Seveas> that might help with x situations
[11:49] <ttrocal> Seveas: No, because I'm on a different computer than I'm upgrading.  I could type them out if necessary.  I'll try that reconfigure command.
[11:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul why not just upgrade to it?
[11:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> if i wanted to help test it.
[11:49] <thoreauputic> bamama: then your sources are broken - it's in main
[11:49] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, because if it does not work you are not going to be the bunny of happines
[11:49] <BROKEN_LADDER> can't i always just downgrade if i don't like it?
[11:50] <bamama> is there something like karamba for gnome?
[11:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> you mean not boot?
[11:50] <thoreauputic> !info  linux-source-2.6.10
[11:50] <ubotu> linux-source-2.6.10: (Linux kernel source for version 2.6.10 with Ubuntu patches), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.10-34 (hoary), Packaged size: 36633 kB, Installed size: 36756 kB
[11:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> ompaul how much different is it?  isn't it just lots of new programs?
[11:50] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, in a word, to be brief, and without much of a do the answer is, emmm no!
[11:50] <CarlFK> BROKEN_LADDER - you can't just downgrade
[11:50] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER, that was about the downgrade
[11:50] <BROKEN_LADDER> right.
[11:50] <pluffsy> hello
[11:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> if breezy isn't substantially different i'm happy to wait for it.
[11:51] <ompaul> it has different sound stuff going on which is why I suggested you try the live CD
[11:51] <ompaul> BROKEN_LADDER,  but no matter your call
[11:52] <pluffsy> I can't get right click emulation to work on my mac. I've used xev to get the keycode for the command key (115) and tried setting both button2 and button3 in /etc/sysctl.conf to 115 but it seems to have no affect (I've restarted between changes)
[11:52] <pluffsy> any ideas?
[11:52] <pluffsy> very frustrating without right click
[11:52] <thoreauputic> bamama: gdesklets (something like karamba) if you enjoy misusing resources ;)
[11:53] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: right click is F12 on ppc
[11:54] <pluffsy> thoreauputic, yeah I know. but it's not very comfortable that's why I tried changing it to keycode 115. but now I just get no working right click.
[11:54] <lonewolff> ooh! thats very handy, didn't know about that one
[11:54] <ttrocal> Seveas: I reconfigured xorg, but now when starting x I get the error "Xsession: unable to srtart X session-no "~/.xsession" file, no session managers, no window managers, no terminal emulators found"
[11:54] <Seveas> ttrocal, sounds like a bigger problem there
[11:54] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: I see - I don't know then - I usually just plug in a tiny USB mouse and use that anyway
[11:55] <Seveas> How did you try to start it?
[11:55] <pluffsy> thoreauputic, right... I don't have any two buttons mouses at all :/
[11:55] <ttrocal> Seveas: "sudo startx"
[11:55] <Seveas> ttrocal, woah bad idea
[11:56] <ttrocal> Seveas: I would use "sudo kdm", but I get the error "sudo: kdm: command not found"
[11:56] <thoreauputic> pluffsy: my 3 button USB mouse with scroll wheel cost less than $15 au
[11:56] <Seveas> either startx or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start should work
[11:56] <sorush20> guys I'm trying to read a CDRW written on a XP .. I keep getting stalled on the GUI copying dialogue but in the terminal with the cp command I get input/output error.. however the image files are copied to a certain extent but not fully.. they are bmp. When I take a look at the result only half of the image has been read and coppied.. can somone help..
[11:57] <pluffsy> thoreauputic, that wasn't much. still would be nice to have the emulation for now :/
[11:58] <ttrocal> Seveas: Alright, I tried the kdm script in init.d, but nothing happens.  No errors or response of any kind.
[11:58] <Seveas> but it goes back to the terminal?
[11:58] <ttrocal> Seveas: Yes, it doesn't seem to attempt to start x at all, no flicker or anything.
[11:58] <Seveas> try <alt><F7>
[11:59] <ttrocal> Seveas: Nothing
[11:59] <char1iecha1k> ok heres a question which is better for linux atheros or intel 11g wireless chipset? so far i have determined that intel is cheaper and they both do WPA but what about linux compatibility?