| === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === seth_k [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-29-244.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| pef | hello | 08:37 |
|---|---|---|
| === \sh_away is now known as \sh | ||
| === Mez [n=Mez@cpc4-lich4-3-0-cust247.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === hunger [n=hunger@p54A63846.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === KaiL_ [n=KaiL@p548F7F72.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === allee [n=ach@allee.exgal.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| verwilst | breezy feels yummie | 11:12 |
| verwilst | more refined than hoary | 11:13 |
| verwilst | :d | 11:13 |
| Mez | verwilst, wait till you get KDE 3.5 :D | 11:28 |
| verwilst | Mez: hehe i know :p | 11:29 |
| verwilst | well, it won't be all stable and integrated until breezy+1 eh :p | 11:34 |
| Mez | well it's working perfectly well for me atm | 11:38 |
| verwilst | oh? you have 3.5 already? | 11:52 |
| Mez | yeah | 11:52 |
| Mez | :D | 11:52 |
| Mez | the beta pre-release | 11:52 |
| === _verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Riddell | hello _verwilst | 12:08 |
| _verwilst | yoyo Riddell | 12:08 |
| Verwilst | Riddell: how's the compiling going? | 12:08 |
| Verwilst | Mez: i meant .deb's :p | 12:09 |
| Riddell | Verwilst: want to help packaging 3.? | 12:09 |
| Riddell | 3.5 | 12:09 |
| Verwilst | sure :d | 12:09 |
| Mez | Riddell: I thought it was already packaged | 12:09 |
| Verwilst | Riddell: what do you have so far? | 12:10 |
| Mez | hence how I'm using it | 12:10 |
| Mez | or are you on about hoary | 12:10 |
| Riddell | only libs, base, toys and utils are done | 12:11 |
| Mez | Riddell: does that include in breezy? | 12:11 |
| Riddell | compiled for breezy, nothing is in breezy | 12:11 |
| Mez | yeah | 12:11 |
| Mez | I mean, are all the packages comnpiled for breezy | 12:11 |
| Riddell | only the ones listed above | 12:12 |
| Mez | ahm, fair enough | 12:13 |
| Mez | I'll try some work over the next couple of days | 12:13 |
| Riddell | well let us know before you start compiling anything so we don't duplicate work | 12:14 |
| Riddell | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KDE35Packages http://kubuntu.org/~jr/3.5-src/ and "deb http://kubuntu.org/kde35beta1 breezy main" | 12:15 |
| === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-29-215.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Verwilst | coolness :) | 01:20 |
| Verwilst | which ones are you doing now? | 01:27 |
| Verwilst | btw, the new kdm splash looks great! | 01:27 |
| Verwilst | minus a few minor cosmetics irregularities here and there :) | 01:27 |
| apokryphos | I really think the KDM theme should be altered | 01:32 |
| apokryphos | it looks like Mandrake/Mandriva | 01:32 |
| Verwilst | mandriva always succeeds in making kde as ugly as possible :p | 01:34 |
| apokryphos | It's gotta be that star in the top. I really t hink we have to alter the theme :D | 01:42 |
| Verwilst | Riddell: i'm gonna do kdenetwork? | 01:43 |
| Verwilst | ok true, the star is too much mandriva-like :) | 01:44 |
| Riddell | Verwilst: cool | 01:56 |
| Riddell | Verwilst: let me know if you have any questions | 01:56 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: how about this KDM theme? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29215 | 01:58 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: wow, much nicer. | 01:58 |
| Verwilst | hm, i like the current one, except the star maybe :) | 02:00 |
| Verwilst | the colors on this one are too dull | 02:01 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: that Qt-patch, by the way http://ktown.kde.org/~binner/distributor-patches/SUSE/9.3/qt3-3.3.4-11/rubberband.diff (not sure if you've used it or not) | 02:01 |
| apokryphos | just told rubberband was guaranteed to be real slow without it; tried rubberband on suse yesterday, and it worked seamlessly | 02:01 |
| apokryphos | *just was told | 02:02 |
| Verwilst | rubberband is pretty slow when it gets bigger ( your selection ) | 02:03 |
| Verwilst | but it's sweet none the less ;) | 02:03 |
| apokryphos | Yup, but I don't think it has to be | 02:03 |
| Verwilst | imho i would keep the current kdm theme | 02:05 |
| Verwilst | and just replace the star | 02:05 |
| Verwilst | it looks sweeet | 02:05 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: I think that is the patch we use but feel free to check | 02:06 |
| apokryphos | ok | 02:07 |
| apokryphos | The other kdm theme definitely gets my vote: smoother, cleaner, lighter, more open | 02:07 |
| apokryphos | The whole style of the last one shouts Mandrake at me :D | 02:07 |
| Riddell | I quite like what's he's done with the kubuntu logo in that one | 02:08 |
| Verwilst | the other one is too light.. | 02:11 |
| Verwilst | it's like a blue t-shirt that's been in the sun for 3 months :d | 02:11 |
| apokryphos | Verwilst: kde itself is quite bright | 02:11 |
| Verwilst | all bleached :p | 02:11 |
| Verwilst | myeah, bright, but not pale :$ | 02:12 |
| Verwilst | and the login button is not consistent with the other 2 | 02:12 |
| apokryphos | Verwilst: I don't think it's pale :P, but the Login button doesn't serve the same function as the others | 02:13 |
| apokryphos | the style of the tick is different though, sure :) | 02:13 |
| apokryphos | but it is a matter of aesthetic preference; I think it is also a case of being consistent wth the default kubuntu background (do we have one yet?) | 02:14 |
| apokryphos | aha, I see it. Hm, it is darker. | 02:15 |
| Verwilst | :d | 02:16 |
| Verwilst | but not darker than the current splash :d | 02:16 |
| Verwilst | ;) ;) | 02:16 |
| apokryphos | I actually think the background itself is too dark (lighter colours encourage happiness :P), but I'll leave it up to TPTB 8) | 02:17 |
| Verwilst | i don't like the background either too :p | 02:19 |
| Verwilst | it's an ugly shade of blue | 02:19 |
| Verwilst | the one from the current kdm theme is way nicer | 02:19 |
| === jjesse [n=jjesse@mail.ftpb.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| JRe | Riddell: there is some 3.5 packages which needs amd64 building ? | 03:19 |
| Riddell | JRe: all of them if you wish | 03:23 |
| Riddell | JRe: are you still doing kdepim? | 03:23 |
| JRe | Riddell: I am trying but I have troubles with using pbuilder in a i386 chroot | 03:24 |
| JRe | Riddell: I have sorted out the unusefull patches | 03:25 |
| JRe | Riddell: update the nedded ones | 03:25 |
| Verwilst | Riddell: it's very busy at work today, i won't start on kdenetwork yet, so go ahead if you want to | 03:27 |
| Verwilst | i'll re-ask tomorrow | 03:27 |
| JRe | Riddell: there is a wiki page on how to set a good i386 chroot on an amd64 ? | 03:27 |
| Verwilst | linux32 chroot . ? | 03:29 |
| JRe | Verwilst: yes | 03:31 |
| Verwilst | JRe: i meant, that's the command you need to get a 32bit chroot eh :) | 03:35 |
| Riddell | JRe: I know nothing about 32 bit chroot son 64 bit | 03:53 |
| Riddell | JRe: but sudo debootstrap [--variant=buildd] [--arch i386] hoary /var/chroot/ | 03:53 |
| Riddell | the --arch should do it | 03:53 |
| JRe | ok thanks | 03:53 |
| Riddell | JRe: easiest just to use a chroot rather than a pbuilder | 03:53 |
| === verwilst [n=verwilst@212.123.1.32] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| verwilst | wtf man | 04:17 |
| verwilst | suddenly my X kept on restarting | 04:17 |
| === mez [n=mez@82-46-210-44.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| mez | lo :D | 04:25 |
| === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D0A3C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Riddell | just posted http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29294 | 04:30 |
| Riddell | that should be our breezy background for sure | 04:30 |
| === Mez [n=mez@82-46-210-44.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| verwilst | hehe colorful :d | 04:44 |
| JRe | there is no way to have an user list in the KDM themes ? | 04:46 |
| apokryphos | it is possible | 04:47 |
| JRe | it would be cool to have such a theme by default | 04:47 |
| apokryphos | Gentoo and Fedora have it by default | 04:47 |
| apokryphos | example kdm theme: http://kdelook.org/content/show.php?content=12544 | 04:48 |
| JRe | cause many users are disturbed to not have the usernames on startup | 04:48 |
| apokryphos | JRe: what do you think about the two kdm things proposed so far? | 04:48 |
| JRe | really nice but I think it would rocks to have an user list by default | 04:49 |
| JRe | i'll see if i can quickly remix a theme | 04:50 |
| Riddell | suse 10 does that, but that theme posted above doesn't work with KDM | 04:53 |
| apokryphos | gah, realised it's GDM | 04:54 |
| apokryphos | but if suse one does it, then fine n' dandy | 04:54 |
| === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| JRe | apokryphos: mmm i have try to use this fedora theme but it does not work | 05:04 |
| JRe | apokryphos: and when i copy the user list item into the kubuntu theme it display en empty list :( | 05:04 |
| apokryphos | JRe: as Riddell mentioned, it's a GDM theme apparently | 05:05 |
| JRe | apokryphos: yeah it's a GDM one | 05:05 |
| apokryphos | we could use the SuSE one | 05:05 |
| Mez | JRe - hows things? | 05:05 |
| apokryphos | JRe: and we use KDM :P | 05:05 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: can you find the suse one? | 05:05 |
| JRe | apokryphos: yeah I know | 05:05 |
| Mez | evening Riddell :D | 05:05 |
| Mez | I'll have a look at doing some packages tonight, as soon as I get a pbuild set up on here | 05:06 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: I have suse here; turning on computer now.. | 05:06 |
| JRe | apokryphos, Riddell: I'll try hack the suse one | 05:06 |
| JRe | and make a nice kubuntu with user list | 05:06 |
| JRe | apokryphos: you have it ? | 05:09 |
| apokryphos | getting it now, one sec | 05:10 |
| apokryphos | sorry about the delay | 05:15 |
| apokryphos | giannaros.org/SUSE | 05:15 |
| JRe | apokryphos: niec! thanks | 05:15 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: hm, doesn't look like it has user list | 05:15 |
| apokryphos | :/ | 05:16 |
| Riddell | hmm, I'm sure it did when I saw it | 05:16 |
| Riddell | can't remember where I saw it though | 05:16 |
| JRe | hum no user list | 05:16 |
| apokryphos | this is from the beta2 | 05:17 |
| apokryphos | *1 | 05:17 |
| === Mez [n=mez@82-46-210-44.cable.ubr01.perr.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === JRe [n=jre@pai34-2-82-226-199-36.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| JRe | mmm I can't find a KDM theme with user list | 05:29 |
| Riddell | maybe I'm making it up then and it just isn't possible | 05:30 |
| === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-29-215.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === \sh is now known as \sh_away | ||
| === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D0A3C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === \sh_away is now known as \sh | ||
| === seth_k [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === \sh is now known as \sh_away | ||
| Riddell | can anyone confirm this problem with amarok and musicbrainz? | 07:08 |
| Riddell | http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15708 | 07:08 |
| Riddell | it works for me | 07:08 |
| Riddell | hmm, wonder if it's MP3 only | 07:09 |
| === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| Riddell | maybe tvo can :) | 07:11 |
| tvo | what can I ? | 07:11 |
| OculusAquilae | Riddell: with my mp3s it doesn' | 07:11 |
| OculusAquilae | t work | 07:11 |
| Tm_T | tvo: sure you can | 07:12 |
| tvo | oh cool :) | 07:12 |
| OculusAquilae | with my 4 mp3s :-) | 07:12 |
| Tm_T | ;--P | 07:12 |
| Tm_T | tvo: high hopes ;p | 07:13 |
| OculusAquilae | Riddell: with ogg-vorbis-files it works | 07:14 |
| === \sh_away is now known as \sh | ||
| Tm_T | hermanni hiiri | 07:28 |
| Riddell | \sh: any idea why guidance isn't working | 07:28 |
| Riddell | the stuff works when run as a command but run through kcmshell I get an evil qt.so location error | 07:29 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: that musicbrainz error has been ther efor ages | 07:29 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: it's because the MC in the repo doesn't have mp3 support, as I recall. I thought it wasn't allowed to be cause it's in main | 07:30 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: MC? | 07:31 |
| apokryphos | musicbrainz; libtunepimp or whatever | 07:31 |
| apokryphos | s/mc/mb | 07:31 |
| === \sh is now known as \sh_away | ||
| Riddell | apokryphos: it's the whatever part I'm trying to work out now :) | 07:38 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: pretty sure it's libtunepimp.. I remember trying to manually get it from their site | 07:39 |
| apokryphos | not that easy for non-Win users | 07:39 |
| === \sh_away is now known as \sh | ||
| apokryphos | erm, well, that seems to be the tagger | 07:42 |
| apokryphos | libmusicbrainz probably what you need | 07:43 |
| Riddell | I think it's taglib that's the fault, taglib has no mp3 support so it can't read the tags so it can't query the database | 07:43 |
| apokryphos | ah | 07:44 |
| apokryphos | would there need to be a patched taglib in multiverse or something? At least there'd be a way to get it working for the end-user | 07:45 |
| Riddell | hmm no, it has no dependencies | 07:45 |
| Riddell | must be tunepimp then | 07:45 |
| === \sh is now known as \sh_away | ||
| === \sh_away is now known as \sh | ||
| JRe | is it normal that superkaramba depends on xmss ? | 08:50 |
| === _tonio [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| _tonio | hi everyone ;) | 09:03 |
| OculusAquilae | hi _tonio | 09:03 |
| apokryphos | JRe: yes | 09:07 |
| apokryphos | JRe: SK has some built-in xmms options with its themes | 09:08 |
| apokryphos | useful back in the day when people only used that; more annoying now though. | 09:08 |
| JRe | apokryphos: oki | 09:10 |
| JRe | hi _t | 09:10 |
| JRe | hi _tonio | 09:10 |
| apokryphos | JRe: any idea why I get a "su: must be run from a terminal" whenever I try to su in a chroot? | 09:11 |
| apokryphos | Used to work perfectly, then one day.. bam. :O | 09:11 |
| JRe | mmm stange!!!!! | 09:11 |
| JRe | strange! | 09:11 |
| apokryphos | one of the funniest errors I've had, definitely 8) | 09:12 |
| JRe | ;) | 09:12 |
| apokryphos | mind you, my chroots have never supported sudo, even though I did straight copies of the user files | 09:12 |
| JRe | really ? | 09:12 |
| JRe | there are always trouble witch the chroots :) | 09:13 |
| apokryphos | copy over /etc/passwd, groups, and hosts -- that would do it, no? | 09:13 |
| JRe | apokryphos: ho BTW i was not able to found a KDM theme with a working userlist :- | 09:13 |
| JRe | :( | 09:13 |
| apokryphos | As I'm finding, yeah 8) | 09:13 |
| apokryphos | That does indeed suck; I was sure I saw one on Gentoo too; wondering if that was a GDM now | 09:13 |
| JRe | apokryphos: may be the userlist element from GDM theme is not already supported on KDM :( | 09:14 |
| JRe | apokryphos: and google does not know :( | 09:14 |
| apokryphos | hm, annoying | 09:15 |
| apokryphos | asked in #kde too, no real help | 09:18 |
| === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@p548D0A3C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === venda [n=sean@ndn-165-138-62.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| === apokryphos_ [n=apokryph@host-87-74-2-161.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel | ||
| apokryphos | JRe: apparently default Gentoo theme has it.. | 10:09 |
| apokryphos | JRe: if you can press any Gentoo user to get them to give you their /usr/kde/3.4/share/apps/kdm/themes/circles then we might be in luck | 10:10 |
| _tonio | little question | 10:10 |
| _tonio | If I need to package 2 apps, on depending on the other, How can I make for the pbuilder to build the second if it is not already uploaded? | 10:10 |
| apokryphos | JRe: #gentoo seem nicely unhelpful, unfortunately. | 10:10 |
| allee | _tonio: pbuilderrc: did you try to add 'deb file:///...' and buildmount the dir ? At least that's what I'll try later this week ;) | 10:14 |
| === apokryphos wonders if Kubuntu should use the Ubuntu splashy | ||
| === venda is now known as venda-away | ||
| _tonio | I mean that I will upload that on revu ;) | 10:19 |
| crimsun | apokryphos: someone has a Kubuntu splash in the works. | 10:19 |
| _tonio | locally I know how to do that's not a problem | 10:19 |
| crimsun | either sladen or paulproteus iirc | 10:19 |
| apokryphos | nice | 10:19 |
| _tonio | but on the server, will not that create an issue ? | 10:19 |
| lamont-away | 131 Dependencies: kdelibs4-dev (>> 4:3.4.2-0ubuntu3) | 11:03 |
| === lamont-away really hopes that if there' | ||
| lamont-away | s a kde upload, it switches hppa to g{cc,++}-3.4... | 11:04 |
| === \sh is now known as \sh_away | ||
| === \sh_away is now known as \sh | ||
| _tonio | \sh: do you know if riddell finally found a solution for kdenetworksconf bugs ? | 11:36 |
| \sh | no sorrz | 11:42 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!