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| segfault | should we translate the ubuntu logo? | 12:23 |
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| jeffsch | segfault: ping | 03:42 |
| segfault | pong | 03:47 |
| jeffsch | segfault: i think i have a solution to your faq guide build problem | 03:53 |
| jeffsch | can i send you a makefile so you can test it? | 03:53 |
| segfault | sure | 03:56 |
| jeffsch | segfault@ubuntu.com? | 03:56 |
| segfault | yeap | 03:56 |
| jeffsch | ok | 03:57 |
| jeffsch | ok, sent | 03:59 |
| jeffsch | i hope it works :) | 04:00 |
| jeffsch | if it does, we should find some spot on the wiki for it, so other translators can use it | 04:01 |
| segfault | ok, i'll test it know | 04:03 |
| segfault | shouldn't the makefile have a call for xml2po? | 04:08 |
| jeffsch | hmmm.... that would be good. | 04:08 |
| jeffsch | for now though, can you do xml2po manually, and then use the makefile? | 04:09 |
| jeffsch | i can add xml2po and then fix up any problems with the makefile | 04:09 |
| segfault | yeah, just a minute | 04:10 |
| jeffsch | we should add an aboutubuntu target also | 04:11 |
| segfault | that's weird, i'm getting some segfaults while trying to convert some xmls | 04:14 |
| segfault | Converting C/applications.xml... | 04:14 |
| segfault | ./pt_BR.sh: line 3: 19098 Segmentation fault xml2po -p pt_BR/pt_BR.po "$i" >pt_BR/$(basename $i) | 04:14 |
| jeffsch | hmm... | 04:14 |
| jeffsch | ok, i know what it is | 04:15 |
| jeffsch | rob stoffers just changed the faqguide to all one big file about an hour ago | 04:16 |
| jeffsch | you don't need to convert each one individually any more | 04:16 |
| segfault | is it on branches/breezy? | 04:16 |
| jeffsch | i think so. I don't have branches/breezy, only trunk | 04:17 |
| segfault | lemme see | 04:18 |
| segfault | Checked out revision 1801. | 04:18 |
| segfault | nothing new | 04:18 |
| segfault | well, your script worked for the C stuff | 04:19 |
| segfault | i guess it is know a problem in our translations | 04:19 |
| segfault | err, s/know/now | 04:20 |
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| jeffsch | open applications.xml and see if there is anything there | 04:22 |
| segfault | humm, it worked | 04:24 |
| segfault | :) | 04:24 |
| jeffsch | ok good. | 04:24 |
| segfault | with some hacks, here's what i did: | 04:24 |
| segfault | for i in C/*xml | 04:25 |
| segfault | do | 04:25 |
| segfault | echo "Converting $i..." | 04:25 |
| segfault | xml2po -p pt_BR/pt_BR.po "$i" > pt_BR/$(basename $i) | 04:25 |
| segfault | done | 04:25 |
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| segfault | so, i parse every xml file.. | 04:25 |
| segfault | then i go up one level, and run your makefile | 04:25 |
| segfault | it couldn't load some external entities, so i did some symlinks to bypass it: | 04:26 |
| segfault | lrwxrwxrwx 1 segfault segfault 12 Sep 18 23:23 common -> ../../common | 04:26 |
| segfault | lrwxrwxrwx 1 segfault segfault 17 Sep 18 23:24 menus -> ../../gnome/menus | 04:26 |
| segfault | and ran the makefile again, and it generated the html translated files | 04:26 |
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| jeffsch | ok. what can we do to make this easier? | 04:33 |
| jeffsch | i can change the target to faq instead of faqi386 | 04:33 |
| jeffsch | i can add a target 'au' for about ubuntu | 04:33 |
| jeffsch | i can add a LANG variable, so you only have to modify the language in one place | 04:34 |
| jeffsch | is there anything we can do about the symlinks? | 04:34 |
| segfault | wait.. | 04:36 |
| segfault | just did a cp -r C pt_BR, and ran the make again | 04:37 |
| segfault | and it built without errors | 04:37 |
| segfault | and without the symlinks | 04:38 |
| segfault | i'm trying to find where those entities come from | 04:41 |
| segfault | global.ent | 04:42 |
| jeffsch | hmm... you should run the makefile in gnome/ and not generic/ | 04:47 |
| segfault | but the faquide is inside generic | 04:48 |
| jeffsch | i know. but the makefile contents are copied from the gnome/Makefile | 04:49 |
| jeffsch | all the directories are relative from gnome/ | 04:49 |
| jeffsch | about ubuntu is in gnome too | 04:49 |
| jeffsch | a big mess | 04:50 |
| segfault | hehe | 04:50 |
| jeffsch | we have a lot of fixing to do after breezy release | 04:50 |
| jeffsch | live and learn :) | 04:50 |
| jeffsch | ok i have to go | 04:51 |
| segfault | me too, tomorrow we can make new tests | 04:52 |
| segfault | cya, and thanks for the help | 04:52 |
| jeffsch | np. cya. | 04:52 |
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| Burgundavia | robitaille, which docs? | 05:31 |
| robitaille | do we talk about the screensaver anywhere? | 05:32 |
| Burgundavia | don't think so | 05:32 |
| robitaille | so we're fine I guess | 05:32 |
| Burgundavia | robitaille, the faqguide talks little about what is on the system. It mostly talks about what you need to add | 05:45 |
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| Burgundavia | salut jsgotangco | 05:52 |
| jsgotangco | hi Burgundavia | 05:52 |
| jsgotangco | how's quickguide? | 05:52 |
| Madpilot | hi everyone | 05:52 |
| jsgotangco | i finally got my dsl back | 05:52 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, there are some edits on my laptop that I need to get off, didn't have a chance to get them off last night | 05:53 |
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| jsgotangco | pinay, hi | 06:02 |
| pinay | jsgotangco: hi, how is up diliman? | 06:03 |
| jsgotangco | up pa rin hehehe...seriously though, its been a while since ive been there, but the last time i went there, i did a talk | 06:05 |
| pinay | jsgotangco: the up campus looked so different when i went home last december, even my school (miriam/maryknoll) looked so different. nakakalito ang katipunan. | 06:06 |
| jsgotangco | Burgundavia, what does Rosetta mean that it can't handle plurals? | 06:07 |
| jsgotangco | pinay, its so different now, with the MRT and traffic re-routing | 06:08 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, I think that is a gettext limitation. I really don't understand it | 06:08 |
| jsgotangco | i guess manual pot work would be the workaround instead of Rosetta | 06:08 |
| pinay | jsgotangco: yes, i tried driving there and what a mistake that was | 06:09 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, I don't think that it is a rosetta thing. it is an underlying gettext thing | 06:10 |
| pinay | jsgotangco: my husband asked me if i'd be interested in translating documentation for ubuntu, as i am not technical, i told him i'll try | 06:11 |
| jsgotangco | pinay, are you aware of Rosetta? It's a web interface that allows you to translate | 06:11 |
| tritium | jsgotangco, I haven't shown her anything yet... | 06:11 |
| pinay | jsgotangco: no i'm not | 06:11 |
| jsgotangco | tritium, about-ubuntu is open for translation, its a short doc. the faq guide has a plurals issue with tagalog | 06:12 |
| jsgotangco | https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-doc/+translations | 06:12 |
| tritium | jsgotangco, okay. We'll take a look at it. | 06:12 |
| tritium | Thanks | 06:13 |
| jsgotangco | a "steve torrefranca" has also contributed | 06:13 |
| Burgundavia | rob^, shouldn't you have killing the various files that bits of the faqguide? | 06:13 |
| jsgotangco | tritium, there's also the downloadable pot file but i wouldn't recommend her doing that | 06:14 |
| tritium | jsgotangco, okay. If she can do the translating, I can work the the pot file | 06:15 |
| pinay | jsgotangco: I'll do my best | 06:16 |
| tritium | jsgotangco, is registration on launchpad enough to get her started? | 06:17 |
| jsgotangco | pinay, good luck! its fun | 06:17 |
| jsgotangco | yeah | 06:17 |
| tritium | awesome, thanks | 06:17 |
| pinay | jsgotangco: salamat po | 06:17 |
| jsgotangco | there were a lot of translations of apps pulled from debian already | 06:17 |
| jsgotangco | the d-i didn't make it though but is currently in sid | 06:18 |
| jsgotangco | im going to grab a sandwhich for lunch, bbl | 06:18 |
| tritium | see you | 06:18 |
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| rob^ | Burgundavia, ? | 08:02 |
| Burgundavia | rob^, you emptied the files of contents but didn't delete the files themselves | 08:05 |
| rob^ | Burgundavia, no I didn't did I | 08:05 |
| rob^ | does it matter? | 08:05 |
| Burgundavia | not really, just making sure that is what you intended | 08:05 |
| rob^ | yeah | 08:06 |
| jsgotangco | Burgundavia, i have the MS OEM CD here with me FYI | 08:06 |
| rob^ | Whoever did the xinclude tags missed a whole chapter | 08:06 |
| jsgotangco | why is work being done in trunk? | 08:09 |
| jsgotangco | Burgundavia, the WindowsXP OEM Preinstallation kit contains a ton of documents and scripts, but it has a basic document called Step-by-Step Guide mabye this is the one you are looking for? | 08:10 |
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| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, ya, that is likely what i looking to replicate | 08:14 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, but the whole kit would be nice to parse | 08:15 |
| Burgundavia | jsgotangco, how did you get yours? | 08:15 |
| jsgotangco | Burgundavia, that's hard, I was browsing at the cd now and it looks terribly complicated really | 08:15 |
| jsgotangco | the step by step alone is 48 pages | 08:15 |
| Burgundavia | ouch | 08:15 |
| Burgundavia | we can do better than that | 08:15 |
| jsgotangco | well the oem stuff has branding covered as well | 08:16 |
| jsgotangco | like adding logos and stuff | 08:16 |
| Burgundavia | yes, that is other side I was looking at | 08:16 |
| jsgotangco | now if we had a working OEM cd, when a user clicks about ubuntu, it would probably show diagnostics and the logo of the oem | 08:17 |
| Burgundavia | hmm | 08:17 |
| jsgotangco | wonder where gnome can do something like that | 08:18 |
| Burgundavia | the diags? | 08:20 |
| jsgotangco | i think the same docs/apps can be pulled from microsoft.com/oem | 08:20 |
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| jsgotangco | but that defeats the purpose of the oem | 08:20 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 08:20 |
| Burgundavia | nto really | 08:22 |
| Burgundavia | a lot fo the windows oem branded stuff is extra programs | 08:22 |
| Burgundavia | oems are in the business of services and hardware, not software develoment | 08:22 |
| Burgundavia | remember, even the largest OEM is a minnow to MS. We can and are different | 08:22 |
| jsgotangco | our best conservative target is just to make a guide for now | 08:22 |
| Burgundavia | yes | 08:22 |
| jsgotangco | Burgundavia, what's your jabber id? | 08:22 |
| Burgundavia | Burgundavia@jabber.org | 08:24 |
| jsgotangco | Burgundavia, looks like our OEM stuff is non-existent in the help department i couldn't even find it on the cd | 08:30 |
| Burgundavia | we have no OEM help | 08:31 |
| jsgotangco | nice | 08:38 |
| Burgundavia | hence why I started thinking about it | 08:38 |
| Madpilot | in the context of help, what is OEM help, vs any other sort | 08:42 |
| Madpilot | ? | 08:42 |
| jsgotangco | a guide to have ubuntu pre-installed | 08:42 |
| jsgotangco | its a system builder thing | 08:42 |
| Madpilot | ah, OK. got it. | 08:43 |
| Madpilot | so the target would be the computer companies themselves, and/or the resellers? | 08:43 |
| Burgundavia | anybody that needs to put Ubuntu on a machine and sell it | 08:44 |
| jsgotangco | the the computer manufacturters is a different level | 08:44 |
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| jsgotangco | night | 08:57 |
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| dholbach | hi | 09:48 |
| jsgotangco | hi dholbach fancy seeing you here =) | 09:48 |
| dholbach | hey jerome :) | 09:49 |
| dholbach | i asked this already some days ago - do you cover gnome-bittorrent on any screenshots or somewhere in the documentation? | 09:49 |
| dholbach | somebody wnats me to change the menu entry to say something else | 09:49 |
| jsgotangco | somebody is influential? =) | 09:49 |
| dholbach | somebody is "Evandro Fernandes Giovanini <evandrofg@ig.com.br>" :) | 09:50 |
| jsgotangco | im not sure if its in the faqguide... | 09:50 |
| dholbach | or in a menu editor screenshot or something | 09:50 |
| dholbach | if it isn't, i'll ask mdz/kamion for approval | 09:51 |
| dholbach | and then upload it :) | 09:51 |
| jsgotangco | change the name to what? | 09:51 |
| dholbach | from GNOME BitTorrent to BitTorrent | 09:51 |
| jsgotangco | not sure how big an impact that is but documentation wise, it shouldn't be that much on an effort | 09:52 |
| jsgotangco | unless there are already finished docs that are translated | 09:52 |
| jsgotangco | its only 1 string | 09:52 |
| dholbach | yeah, that's what i thought | 09:53 |
| dholbach | the change would make sense for me | 09:53 |
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| pedri2 | hello jsgotangco | 09:53 |
| jsgotangco | hi irvin | 09:53 |
| irvin | how was linuxworld? | 09:54 |
| jsgotangco | awesome | 09:54 |
| jsgotangco | i had a pic with 3 MS booth girls | 09:54 |
| dholbach | haha :) | 09:54 |
| irvin | i've been so busy | 09:54 |
| jsgotangco | dholbach, yeah we had an MS booth | 09:54 |
| jsgotangco | it was BIGGER han Red Hat's booth | 09:55 |
| irvin | i had to migrate two internet shops to kubuntu | 09:55 |
| jsgotangco | ahh | 09:55 |
| jsgotangco | irvin, we're planning a hackfest sometime in november, its possible RMS will come | 09:55 |
| irvin | really? nice if i could join | 09:55 |
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| jsgotangco | sure its supposed to be open not like linuxworld | 09:56 |
| irvin | what did you talk about in linuxworld? | 09:57 |
| jsgotangco | since stallman is working with the undp and iosn lately, he's more than willing to go over here | 09:57 |
| irvin | it would be a wonderful opportunity for him to meet with politicians to push through open source | 09:58 |
| irvin | its about time | 09:58 |
| irvin | i'm doing my share here in the province | 09:59 |
| jsgotangco | sure marvin (pascual) got to have dinner with him in bangkok | 09:59 |
| jsgotangco | PLUG is already recognized by the IOSN and UNDP | 09:59 |
| irvin | that is good news. what we need are stronger lobbyists in congress | 10:00 |
| jsgotangco | irvin, let's move to #ubuntu-ph (this is a doc channel btw) | 10:01 |
| irvin | i'll be writing to my congressman soon | 10:01 |
| irvin | i see | 10:01 |
| irvin | sorry didn't know | 10:01 |
| jsgotangco | no worries | 10:01 |
| sivang | morning all | 10:07 |
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| mgalvin | hi all, long time no see | 04:34 |
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