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Seveasttrocal, then check the X logfiles12:00
iratsuIs there some software that I can use to draw molecule structures?12:00
Seveaschar1iecha1k, both work fine12:00
Seveasiratsu, yes12:00
Seveaschemdraw (iirc)12:00
char1iecha1kSeveas am i right in thinking that they both can do WPA12:00
sorush20chemdraw12:00
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Seveasiratsu, ghemical12:01
ttrocalSeveas: Also, on the matter of the four broken packages, the other 3 seem to be dependant on postfix.  I tried to dpkg --configure postfix and I get "invoke-rc.d: initscript postfix, action "start" failed"12:01
persiairatsu: chemtool, rather12:01
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sorush20Seveas: why did you type (iirc)12:01
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Seveasiratsu, xdrawchem12:01
valerocarTesting, testing12:01
iratsuwhoa12:01
reikisorush20, iirc = if I remember correctly12:02
iratsuSeveas: are these all equivalent?12:02
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Seveasiratsu, no12:03
iratsuSeveas: which one do you recommend?12:03
Seveasthese are just the packages i found with apt-cache search chem12:03
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iratsuoh12:03
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DansFloydwhy is it when il ockmy screen it dosnt use the screensaver, also theirs 2 different Screensaver options in System>Preferences... why is this?12:03
Seveasiratsu, I have no experience with either of them, so I can't make recommendations12:03
bamamasomebody have a link for linux-source-2.6.20 download ?12:04
Seveasthere is none12:04
Seveas2.6.20 does not exist12:04
DansFloydanyone know?12:04
red_bloodquestion: what's the font's directory in ubuntu?12:04
red_bloodwhere is?12:04
bamamasomebody have a link for linux-source-2.6.10 download ? :)12:04
Seveasand with apt-get install linux-source-2.6.10 you can install it12:05
iratsusorush20, persia: do you have experience with these software?12:05
Seveasred_blood, /usr/share/fonts and ~/.fonts12:05
thoreauputicred_blood: did you mean to ask, "How do I install fonts in Ubuntu" ?12:05
red_bloodthanks12:05
persiabamama: As you've reported issues with apt-get, you coud also try http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fl%2Flinux-source-2.6.10%2Flinux-source-2.6.10_2.6.10-34.5_all.deb&md5sum=3c8d717bc6977b445e3b1a80327610eb&arch=all&type=security if you like.12:05
pluffsywhere in the gnome gui do you setup 24 hour days?12:05
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pluffsymy clock says PM and AM and other confusing stuff :p12:05
pluffsyTime & Date sounded logical but appearently not.12:06
persiapluffsy: Right-click the clock, and choose preferences.12:06
Seveaspluffsy, i'd set LC_CTIME to en_GB in /etc/environment if I were you :)12:06
pluffsypersia: darn my right click doesn't work :(12:06
Seveasbut what persia said is easier :)12:06
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thoreauputicpluffsy: setting up 24 hour days? Are you running on metric time or something? (/me thought days already had 24 hours *grin* )12:06
pluffsySeveas, yours easier as long as my right click doesn't work.12:07
persiapluffsy: Oh, right, sorry.  OK, you'll need a new mouse?12:07
Seveasthoreauputic, rofl12:07
pluffsypersia, I just need mouse emulation to work :(12:07
pluffsythoreauputic, hehe. bastard :p12:07
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thoreauputicpluffsy: mwuhahahha ! *evil grin*12:08
bamamapersia: tnx12:08
DansFloydanyone know why my lockscreen isnt working correctly?12:08
SeveasDansFloyd, because xscreensaver got replaced with gnome-screensaver12:09
thoreauputicDansFloyd: is xscreensaver running?12:09
Seveas(in Breezy)12:09
thoreauputicah12:09
Seveasthis will be fixed :)12:09
sorush20iratsu: no not really it depend what software you are looking for if you a Dr in chemistry and want to feed structural data and have it model a molecule for you it would be best to talk to and expert.. just find a Dr in chem.. at some university and ask him..12:09
CarlFKwho did the Ubuntu hardware database wizard thing?12:10
DansFloydhmmm, how can i fix it?12:10
crimsunCarlFK: ogra did iirc12:10
thoreauputicSeveas: does gnome-screensaver still run the xscreensaver hacks we know and love?12:10
sorush20guys.. this is the directroy that my CD rom is trying to access will it have problems.. /home/sam/Desktop/New Folder12:10
SgepWhy is mplayer in multiverse?12:10
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pluffsythoreauputic, no ideas at all to why the emulation doesn't work? I mean not too many things I can do wrong. right? see keycode from xev and type it into /etc/sysctl.conf12:10
crimsunSgep: licensing issues12:10
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CarlFKcrimsun- thanks.  I want to sugest collecting modem info too12:10
thoreauputicpluffsy: sounds logical - I've never tried it so I can't really help you, sorry12:11
crimsunSgep: mainly, the build-dependencies that mplayer has are in multiverse due to licensing issues12:11
Seveasthoreauputic, yes12:11
persiapluffsy: Without right-clicking you can set the clock with the gconf key /apps/panel/applets/clock(underscore)screen0/prefs/format (you want 24-hour).12:11
sorush20terminal is unable to read the New Folder directory since it has a space in it.. instead it show the directory as New\ Folder12:11
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ograCarlFK, if the modem is shown in hal it is collected12:11
jtan325anyone here use the artwiz fonts? what's the safest/easiest way to install them?12:11
CarlFKhey ogra.  does that include winmodems?12:12
ograCarlFK, if they are listed in your device manager...12:12
pluffsypersia, thanks12:12
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DansFloydseveas: is there a way to fix this?12:12
Seveasjtan325, if they're simply ttf files, drop them in ~/.fonts12:12
SeveasDansFloyd, yes. Wait.12:12
CarlFKorga - is there a place I can see pci ID's of modems that work?12:13
Seveasthe devs are fixing it and you'll just have to update regularly12:13
jtan325Seveas, they're bitmap fonts12:13
ograCarlFK, or show up in the boot log ... hwdb collects lshal, xorg.conf and your boot log12:13
Seveasyou're running a development version of a distro, things like this happen.12:13
Seveasjtan325, should work too afaik12:13
DansFloydok...12:13
DansFloydthx12:13
jtan325hmm12:13
jtan325i've done that12:13
jtan325but when i use gtkfontsel12:13
jtan325it doesn't show up12:14
DansFloydUbuntu is the best :D12:14
mushroomblueI dunno.12:14
mushroombluestill not sure if I like it as much as gentoo.12:14
ograCarlFK, not yet... i'm still working on a SQL backend, currently the data isnt easily searchable and edubuntu doesnt leave me much time12:14
jtan325or maybe i gotta log out again12:14
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sorush20guys why does this happen..sam@ubuntu:~/Desktop/New Folder$ sudo cp "/home/sam/Desktop/New Folder" /home/sam/ Password: cp: omitting directory `/home/sam/Desktop/New Folder'12:15
thoreauputicjtan325: apt-cache search artwiz  <-- easy way is install xfonts-artwiz I guess12:15
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Seveassorush20, cp -r12:15
Seveasthoreauputic, lol :)12:15
Seveas("I-n-v-i-s-i-o-n 2.0 Build 3515") <-- how can you call a script a 'build' ...12:16
mushroombluesorush20: don't use quotes.12:16
mushroombluesorush20: sudo cp -r /home/sam/Desktop/New\ Folder /home/sam/12:16
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joakimOk, I really suck at this. How do I install mplayer and all existing codecs?12:18
mushroombluejoakim: I'll get you a URL. :)12:18
Seveasjoakim, enable multiverse and hoary-extras12:18
Seveasand apt-get install mplayer-586 w32codecs12:18
Seveasjoakim: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto12:18
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Seveasjoakim: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96912:18
CarlFKogra - edubuntu sounds like something more important than me figuuring out which of these modesm I should mess with12:19
Pyfhey, is there a prgram that will organise my mp3s so they are in folders based on the albumname and band name?12:19
joakimWow ^^12:19
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waterbaby999what command can i use to make crossover office let me use office 2k3 (it says newer version of windows needed)12:20
sorush20mushroomblue: thanks.. I have a CDRW that will not read.. it read partly and misses part of the other file... how can I fix this.. also.. The I I know that a file contains Image data.. but it is an unreadable file type... eg. .dm3, How can etract the data.. I guess what I'm asking is that is there a way for me to read a non standard image file using standard image programs..12:20
ograCarlFK, heh, i think its both important, but the hwdb isnt depending on the release schedule i have to set priorities ;)12:20
CarlFKwaterbaby999 - there is a wine.conf option - something like WinVer12:20
mushroombluesorush20: dunno. can you get it to read anywhere else? I'm wondering if it's a problem with the disc.12:20
||dave||how do i get rid of the system beep at startup and shutdown?  the shartup beep happens just before the login screen appears and the beep on shutdown occurs just after the PCI... message flashes12:21
||dave||this has happened with .04 and with .1012:21
waterbaby999CarlFK: there is?12:21
CarlFKwaterbaby999 - yes12:21
sorush20mushroomblue: I should check that.. but technically what does it mean when the disk is only read partly..12:22
mushroombluesorush20: either a) bad disc, or b) something wrong with application/driver.12:22
mushroombluemost likely, A.12:22
seliniumHi Seveas, dont know if this is a bug, but when I am using phpmyadmin in firefox, if I open a new tab, firefox-bin takes up all the cpu.12:23
apokryphosselinium: for long amounts of time?12:23
nalioth_wrknselinium: ff is known to be a cpu hog. try using galeon or kazehakaze or epiphany12:23
seliniumapokryphos, yep until I kill it12:23
Seveasselinium, i'd call that a bug12:23
apokryphosselinium: it's a bug then12:23
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Seveasnever happened to me though on 3 different pma version12:24
seliniumlol. Who do i report it to, mozilla?12:24
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CarlFKwaterbaby999 - http://winehq.com/site/docs/wine-user/config-windows-versions12:24
Seveasselinium, only if you can gather more info (like a strace of the problem)12:25
seliniumSeveas: strace? This is where I need to learn more!12:25
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poningruselinium: report what now?12:25
poningrusorry just came in12:26
persiaselinium: Is it https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137584?12:26
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seliniumponingru, when I am using phpmyadmin in firefox, if I open a new tab, firefox-bin takes up all the cpu.12:26
poningruhmm12:27
seliniumpersia: Was that supposed to be a joke? It doesn't exist! :)12:27
poningruare you using nightly?12:27
seliniumponingru, not as far as I know! :)12:27
erUSULselinium: i think that strace will not help here a debugger or a profiler maybe...12:28
||dave||how do i get rid of the system beep at startup and shutdown?  the shartup beep happens just before the login screen appears and the beep on shutdown occurs just after the PCMCIA message flashes12:28
SeveasThe best bug I know is http://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/112:28
poningruhold on let me ask around12:28
persiaselinium: Oops!  drop the final '?': that wasn't supposed to be in the URL.12:28
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seliniumpersia: NO, not that one. As far as i know, phpmyadmin does not use dhtml12:29
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seliniumerUSUL, I dont even know how to do a strace! :)12:29
eric_hello all12:30
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erUSULselinium: neither I :D12:30
seliniumSeveas, ROFL @ bug12:30
poningruselinium: dude do you know if I can test that?12:30
poningruis there some place like a sandbox where I can test a phpadmin?12:30
poningruassumine its a web app type of thingy12:30
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HaRDaWaYhello people12:31
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seliniumponingru, have yot got apache?12:31
poningruhehe no12:31
zxsykcoWEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!12:31
poningruthis guy is a tiny laptop cant run anything hardcore on it12:31
slack7384poningru: I once ran Apache on an old 166 MHz Pentium I 64MB RAM with Kernel 2.4.29!12:32
poningruselinium: my guess would be to download and use 1.5 beta and see if that still gives you trouble12:32
seliniumponingru, phpmyadmin is a mysql admin app coded in php to run on the server.. Did that make sense! You would need to install a LAMP12:32
benplauti wonder if my internet is on...12:32
seliniumponingru, 1.5 beta of ?12:33
slack7384selinium: would XAMPP be an easy choice (after adding security of course)?12:33
poningruselinium: firefox12:33
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MrBoncimerlarrakis.es12:33
poningruhttp://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/12:33
slack7384benplaut: "quote" I wonder if my internet is on: I saw your message?12:33
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benplautslack7384: good point :P12:34
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poningruselinium: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/prometheus-mozilla1.8/12:34
poningruthats from yesterday12:34
poningruget the 1.412:35
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mushroombluedoes anyone have a newer xmame package? 0.86 is older than dirt.12:35
mushroomblueor know where to get one?12:35
red_bloodhcan i change the gdm resolution?12:36
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esac_is it possible to not have my 2nd desktop programs show up in the taskbar on the 1st desktop ?12:36
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slack7384red_blood: shouldn't gdm resolution and X.org/XFree86 resoloution be the same?12:37
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seliniumponingru, Cheers, i will see if it solves the problem. 23.36 here and I need to finish some work before bed. So i will do it tomorrow.12:37
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erUSULesac_: 's/desktop/workspace/' is not? i do not have this problem whit gnome. are you dual head?12:38
red_bloodslack the gdm resolution is 1280x1024 and my desktop resolution is 1024x768, i change it, but the gdm resolution is the maximun12:38
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tgahowdy12:39
esac_erusul: yes, workspace. im running kde, not dual head12:39
slack7384red_blood: so you want the gdm resolution to be 1024x768 like the desktop?12:40
tgahow can I have iptables forward all packages from one interface to another?12:40
persiamushroomblue: Debian unstable has a newer one, (0.99) but Breezy is in an upstream version freeze.  I don't know if the new one would compile for Ubuntu.12:40
red_bloodyes slack7384 :)12:40
tgaI can't set up a bridge because my wireless driver doesn't support it12:40
nalioth_wrkntga: yes12:40
tganalioth_wrkn, there was a 'how' in there :)12:40
red_bloodif its is possible12:40
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nalioth_wrkntga: use a frontend like firstarter or something and tell it that's what you want12:41
tganalioth_wrkn, how would you do it with iptables though? frontends tend to add a bunch of rules I don't really need12:42
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mushroombluepersia: I'm trying.12:42
mushroombluepersia: found a script.12:42
mushroombluepersia: that would explain why the packages in breezy suck atm.12:42
Seveastga forwarding all packets seems a bit weird12:42
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Seveasthen your pc would be a simple hub12:42
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tgaSeveas, I want a wireless bridge really but I can't use bridge-utils because my orinoco driver doesn't support it12:43
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persiaCould anyone recommend another forum where I could ask for assistance configuring xorg to use all the keys on my keyboard?12:43
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z|banditoa system of mine will boot the live cd, but when i put in the install disc it says 'no os found' .. this happens with kubuntu also, and it will boot dynebolic, but also does that with the cd and dvd releases of fedora core 4... but i had successfully installed fc3 on it before.  any ideas why it would suddenly like live CD's but not like any installation media? O.O12:43
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mushroombluetga: try firestarter. it doesn't suck.12:43
pippijnhi all12:43
pippijn  tmw: Depends: libcurl3 (>= 7.14.0-2) but 7.12.3-2ubuntu3 is to be installed12:43
tgaalright, will do12:43
pippijnwhere do I get that from?12:43
Seveastga, sunno if this works for you, this is a NAT/internet connection sharing setup: http://kaarsemaker.net/~dennis/start_nat12:43
Seveaspippijn, don''t use 3rd party packages then :)12:44
pippijnI am going to reinstall12:44
pippijnI want to try it12:44
tgaI don't want to do NAT though, I want the computers to appear to be in the same segment12:44
thoreauputicz|bandito: I've only seen "no OS found" when the machine is trying to boot to windows12:44
tgais that possible or do I need to setup an arp proxy of some kind?12:44
pippijnif I mess it up it doesn't matter as I am about to reinstall12:44
z|banditoi've also replaced the optical drive to no avail12:44
z|banditoit does it at bios12:45
Seveastga, ENOCLUE, I'm far from a network guru, sorry12:45
thoreauputicz|bandito: iirc I fixed it by resetting the BIOS to defaults12:45
slack7384red_blood: you might have to hack your way through /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf file to set the resolution?12:45
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z|banditohmm ok i'll have a look at that stuff12:45
z|banditothanks12:45
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pippijnSeveas: can I force it to accept the older version?12:45
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Seveaspippijn, maybe12:46
Seveaswhat is tmw / where did you get it?12:46
pippijnhttp://themanaworld.org/12:46
pippijnthey have debian packages12:47
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Seveaspippijn, on breezy it will work12:48
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pippijnokay.. can I get the breezy package from somewhere?12:48
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pippijnit is not in pool12:48
Seveashehe12:48
Seveasbreezy is the next ubuntu version12:48
Seveaswhich is usable already12:48
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spazzhow do i install a debian package? can i?12:48
mushroombluedpkg -i <packagename>12:49
nalioth_wrknspazz: some debian pkgs will break your box. be careful12:49
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pippijnSeveas: I don't want to use it now12:49
FR500hello12:49
KyralSeveas, is your Repo up? The guy that maintains the build in our ITL saw me looking at the Wiki and was interested12:49
pippijnI will later12:49
Seveaskyral it is12:49
Seveasit just changed12:49
FR500is it hard to join Active Directory from ubuntu?12:49
pippijnbut now I just want that package to work... can I get the breezy libcurl?12:49
Kyralty ty12:49
SeveasI;ll update the wiki :)12:49
spazzwhere do i type that?12:50
nalioth_wrknSeveas: would you be interested in offering your java deb as a torrent? i'd host it12:50
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nalioth_wrknSeveas: and your other large bandwidth sucking files?12:50
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KyralHe doesn't believe you can outdo VNC on a LAN with FreeNX on a 56k :P12:50
WebLOCHAnyone awake ?12:50
WebLOCHAhhh awesome, people that are awake!12:50
SeveasKyral, ROFL12:50
slack7384WebLOCH: I'm awake (hand raised in the air......)12:51
KyralI activated SSHD for FreeNX12:51
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nalioth_wrknoff to work12:51
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Kyraland also implemented a kickass IPTables rule to protect it :D12:51
WebLOCHI've been doing some reading to try and get my keyb/mouse set running but to no avail, I was hoping to find someone that might have an idea12:51
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pippijnwhere are the breezy packages?12:52
KyralI found out the IP Blocks that two computer labs I SSH from use and put an IP Tables rule into effect that only allows SSH connections from there12:52
pippijnI cant find them12:52
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WebLOCHpippijn are you running hoary?12:52
X7Cun decompilador deflash pa linux?12:52
SeveasKyral, allow localhost ssh connections too...12:52
X7C!12:52
ubotuI don't know, X7C12:52
X7Csorry12:52
pippijnWebLOCH: yes12:52
SeveasX7C, english please12:52
KyralSeveas eh?12:52
X7Cmessed up12:53
SeveasKyral, freenx uses an ssh -X connection on localhost internally12:53
jediborgerI have WG111t wireless network usb card and I have ndiswrapper 1.2 installed and the driver saying "driver present, hardware present" but it doesn't show up under the networking program12:53
WebLOCHpippijn, I had to do this today with the help of a friend12:53
persiapippijn: Take a look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes for notes.  Please note that this is the development version of Ubuntu, and is not quite done yet.12:53
WebLOCHCan I PM you ?12:53
Kyralahh12:53
Seveasit then captures the X by emulating an X server12:53
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Seveasand tunnels it via the external ssh session12:53
Kyralso I just have to add || 127.0.0.1?12:53
pippijnWebLOCH: what did you do? upgrade or use a package from breezy on hoary?12:53
Seveaswith the super-duper NX protocol :)12:54
pippijnI need to do the latter12:54
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SeveasKyral, might be a good idea ;)12:54
WebLOCHAhh right I upgraded from Hoary to Breezy12:54
waterbaby999http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2649.html <-- that helped me with ndiswrapper12:54
Enendaris there a good linux alt to macromedia flash?12:54
WebLOCHBut its a very similar process12:54
SeveasEnendar, macromedia flash :)12:54
Kyralhah its being refused12:54
Seveas(if not on ppc/amd64)12:54
Enendaroh, it has linux support? :)12:54
WebLOCHIf you edit your sources list you can get a list of packages from Breezy12:54
WebLOCHAnd then select the ones you want specifically12:54
seliniumEnendar, yep12:54
pippijnyes Enendar12:54
SeveasKyral, what is?12:55
sorush20guys I want to be able to Install the ImageJ program from here http://rsb.info.nih.gov/ij/download.html, there are a few options. but non that can be used with linux which already has the JRE, what can I use..12:55
pippijnflash-nonfree12:55
KyralI assume that the logic operators work in IP Tables12:55
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KyralSeveas, I opened a terminal and tried to SSH into myself :P12:55
Seveashehe :)12:55
pippijnSeveas: do you know where they are located?12:55
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Seveasflash-nonfree is probably in multiverse12:55
WebLOCHAnyone here fancy addressing a hardware problem ?12:55
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Kyraloh wait..12:56
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sorush20WebLock ask12:56
pippijnhrm no I mean libcurl3 breezy version12:56
KyralI shut down the Daemon12:56
Kyralit wasn't even running12:56
persiaWebLOCH: What sort of hardware problem?12:56
WebLOCHi have the logitech dinovo media desktop 2 and Ive upgraded from Hoary to Breezy12:56
WebLOCHAnd during the change over I appear to have lost support12:56
erUSULsorush20: is the first one "JAR File (Upgrade or Unix)"12:56
WebLOCHIf I load the console I can type on the keyboard12:56
pippijnI am now just downloading the package lists from breezy12:56
pippijnwith apt12:56
WebLOCHbut when I get to the login screen I cannot12:56
sorush20erUSUL: thanks..12:56
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KyralOkay12:57
Kyrallogging from LocalHost works :D12:57
persiaWebLOCH: That's not a hardware problem.  Many people reported that they needed to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf when upgrading (although I thought that was fixed).  Check to make sure you are using the kbd driver in the appropriate InputSection.12:57
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spazzis there any way to search a drive like my ipod?12:58
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WebLOCHpersia: I dont suppose you have any source material for me to read on that. Im still a *nixnovice12:58
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SeveasWebLOCH, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:58
persiaWebLOCH: Ummm..   man xorg.conf is fairly unfreindly.  If you don't have a special setup, you could try just running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, which ought to fix it.12:59
AnswerQuestion: Drivers for ATI Radeon Mobility M7 ?   Device managers recognizes the hardware but some programs do not12:59
WebLOCHOkay12:59
WebLOCHWould that work from Recovery12:59
WebLOCHOr do I need to log into an X session12:59
persiaWebLOCH: It should.  It won't work very nicely under X.12:59
spazzis there any way to run a search on a drive like my ipod?12:59
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WebLOCHokay12:59
erUSUL!tell Answer about ati01:00
Enendarumm... where is this macromedia flash for linux (i'm not talking about the player)01:00
Crearthi all, when downloading a file, do i choose the GTK or the MOTIF version??01:00
mjrCreart, GTK01:00
Creartmay i ask why?01:00
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erUSUL there is not Enendar maybe you can run it whith wine01:01
thoreauputicCreart: because motif is ancient and ugly :)01:01
WebLOCHthanks guys01:01
WebLOCHim off to try this ouit01:01
WebLOCHout **01:01
Creartfair enough01:01
Pyfim trying to install id3lib and it says to "1. Configure the source code by typing:01:01
Pyf        % sh ./configure"  when i do that in terminal it says.... 1. Configure the source code by typing:01:01
Pyf        % sh ./configure01:01
Creart;)01:01
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Enendar::sigh:: ok...01:01
mjrCreart, GTK is a modern toolkit used by Gnome and therefore Ubuntu by default, MOTIF is an aged toolkit of which no free version was ever released, and it's quickly sinking into the sands of time01:01
Seveasmjr, there's openmotif :)01:02
mjrit wasn't free01:02
apokryphosPyf: always read the topic before speaking in a chan. =)01:02
erUSULmjr: now it is01:02
CreartK, thx01:02
mjroh, is it?01:02
mjrI've apparently missed something01:02
Seveas:)01:02
Seveasit still sucks though01:02
mjrluckily something not too critical, 'cause, you know, it's Motif01:02
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thoreauputicmjr: not much really ;)01:02
persiaPyf: Is there a reason you don't want to use the id3lib provided by the repositories?01:03
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Pyfpersia, i dont seem able to apt-get it01:03
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Pyfapokryphos, sorry... it wasnt supposed to be a long paste, but coz im an idiot i pasted the same thing twice ;(01:03
mjrhmh, the openmotif license does seem to restrict its use to FOSS operating systems01:03
sorush20how do I run a JAR file01:03
mjr-> non-free01:03
apokryphosPyf: that's ok; no major harm done. :)01:04
Seveassorush20, java -jar filename.jar01:04
persiaPyf: `aptitude search id3` will return a list of all the id3 packages available.  One of these will be libid3-version, which is the one you want to install.01:04
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Pyfpersia, cheers i need the version number i want01:05
persiaPyf: It depends on whether you are running Hoary or Breezy,  Select the one with only a version number after the hyphen for best results.01:05
Pyfapokryphos, on that note of me pasting twice, how come if i copy something with ctrl c, the first thing it copies fine, then it wont copy anything else with ctrl c....01:06
Pyfpersia, yeah the -dev one prolly aint for me ;)01:06
mjrerUSUL, well, not according to the OSI guidelines01:06
thoreauputicPyf: is there a particular app you need it for? If the app is in the repos apt willget the lib for you....01:06
KyralOh Seveas, my IPTables rule only blocks SSH coming from eth001:06
spazzhow do i search a drive?01:06
erUSULmjr: note the *somehow*01:07
spazzlike an ipod for all .mp3 files?01:07
erUSULspazz: where is the ipod mounted01:07
Seveasspacey, find /mountpoint/of/ipod -name '*.mp3'01:07
erUSUL?01:07
Seveasspazz*01:07
apokryphosPyf: in where exactly?01:07
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jorge_hey guys01:08
Pyfapokryphos,  xchat or terminal or anything in fact01:08
apokryphosPyf: terminal doesn't use Ctrl+C for copy; not sure of X-chat01:08
erUSULspazz: find /mounted/ipod -name '*.mp3'01:08
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blankhey guys01:08
spazzuuh01:08
spazzi just plugged it in01:08
blankI just installed ubuntu 5.1001:08
apokryphosPyf: anything else it should work in... try gedit or whatever.01:08
spazzand box with the folders in it came up01:08
apokryphoshi blank01:08
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blankand I wanna su to root, but during installation I dont remember it asking me for root password, and now I can't su to root01:08
blankhello apokryphos01:08
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apokryphosubotu: tell blank about root01:09
Seveasspazz, find /media -name '*.mp3'01:09
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spazzwhere do i type that now?01:09
mrchicagognome settings deamon has quit01:09
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mrchicagowhat does that mean01:09
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blankthanks apokryphos, but then how may I issue the dpkg command01:09
Seveasspazz, in a terminal01:09
spazzah01:09
apokryphosblank: did you check the link from ubotu?01:09
sorush20guys I keep getting this error when I try to run the file. java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError01:09
sorush20   at java.lang.Class.initialize (Class.java:159)01:09
sorush20   at ij.ImageJ.main (ImageJ.java:417)01:09
sorush20   at java.lang.VirtualMachine.invokeMain (VirtualMachine.java)01:09
sorush20   at java.lang.VirtualMachine.main (VirtualMachine.java:92)01:09
blankoh, sorry01:09
thoreauputicmrchicago: I guess it means it stopped running :)01:10
sorush20Caused by: java.lang.StringIndexOutOfBoundsException01:10
sorush20   at java.lang.String.substring (String.java:1018)01:10
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mrchicagoso how do i restart it01:10
apokryphosblank: Ubuntu uses sudo :)01:10
mrchicagoso ill quit getting the error01:10
Seveasgrmpf...01:10
wimhmm if i open my firefox, it always close after a short time :s01:10
Seveas&yarr;01:10
thoreauputicmrchicago: try typing gnome-settings-daemon & in a terminal01:10
janedWhere do i find a list of updatable packages for ubuntu? (Just installed)01:11
thoreauputicmrchicago: note the &01:11
blankso instead of su root, sudo root ?01:11
blankand use my password?01:11
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Seveassudo -i01:11
thoreauputicblank: no01:11
blankoh, okay01:11
Seveasbut better: don't be root all the time01:11
blankyes I know, thanks01:11
Seveasuse sudo for simple commands01:11
blankbut I'm just trying to issue dpkg01:11
blankhow may I do that, for example01:11
Seveaslike: sudo dpkg01:11
blankoh, okay, that's it?01:11
thoreauputicblank: sudo <command>01:12
Seveaswell, the arguments to dpkg are missing ;(01:12
blankand that would be all?01:12
Seveas;)01:12
blankwell yes of course :P01:12
apokryphosblank: yes. Any commands you want to run as root, just prefix them with sudo01:12
Seveasthat's all01:12
blankokay, thanks guys01:12
thoreauputicblank: the pass it wants is *your* password01:12
jediborgerI have WG111t wireless network usb card and I have ndiswrapper 1.2 installed and the driver saying "driver present, hardware present" but it doesn't show up under the networking program can anyone help me?01:12
erUSULwim: run it from terminal maybe you can get messages of why it crashes01:12
blankyes I read that, thanks thoreauputic01:12
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thoreauputicblank: OK :)01:12
dabaRhi01:12
blankguys, is it possible to run fluxbox in ubuntu?  I know it's a dumb question but since they made a whole new distro for KDE ubuntu, I'm guessing it'd cause conflicts?01:13
apokryphoshi dabaR01:13
janedAny website giving any tutorial for the sudo apt-get commands?01:13
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apokryphosblank: indeed, you just need to install it01:13
thoreauputicblank: I run flux here all the time01:13
blankokay, thanks01:13
blankthanks guys01:13
Seveasblank, you can have kde, gnome, fluxbox and whatnot installed at the same time01:13
Seveaskubuntu is not another distro01:13
blankthanks seveas, hey I remember you seveas! :)01:13
apokryphosblank: and thoreauputic is our regular fluxbox aficionado :P01:13
blankooo cool :D01:14
thoreauputicheh01:14
blankhey thoreauputic, can I simply do sudo apt-get <link to fluxbox file online> and it'll install it for me?01:14
Pyfjaned, www.ubuntuguide.org i found useful01:14
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thoreauputicblank: and apokryphos is the resident KDE fanboy ;)01:14
SeveasPyf, ubuntuguide is bad01:14
sorush20101:14
blankhaha, kay01:14
janedThanks mate ;)01:14
Pyfjaned, maybe im wrong :)01:14
thoreauputicblank: sudo apt-get install fluxbox01:14
Seveas201:14
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apokryphos301:15
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Seveas501:15
blankoh seiously?01:15
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jediborgerI have WG111t wireless network usb card and I have ndiswrapper 1.2 installed and the driver saying "driver present, hardware present" but it doesn't show up under System-Administration-Networking. Can anyone help me?01:15
apokryphosSeveas: you forgot to say fizz :D01:15
Seveas:p 01:15
slack7384Seveas: Huh?01:16
sorush20I was just testing that I was unbaned.. thank you very much.. I'm just happy to see Seveas is so heartless..01:16
slack7384Seveas: ASCII Code! :P01:16
Pyfive got a python script how would i run it?01:16
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erUSULjediborger: run ifconfig -a01:16
slack7384Pyf: python yourscript.py01:16
Seveassorush20, calling people heartless is a great way to get a ban01:16
jediborgerwhat does that do?01:16
apokryphossorush20: hardly heartless; it should be common practice to read the /topic before speaking in a chan.01:17
erUSULshow the (net) interfaces you have in your system01:17
jediborgerok hold let me try it01:17
todd__terminal says "no command" for alsaconf but i have alsa-utils installed.  tried reinstalling...what could be the prob?01:17
thoreauputictodd__: Ubuntu has no alsaconf01:17
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mrchicagohas anyone read the m$ site01:18
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mrchicagoon linux01:18
blankthoreauputic, sorry for pm flooding you, heh, copied way too much01:18
thoreauputicblank: ?01:18
mrchicagoms says something about legal problems with linux01:18
todd__ohh, heh.01:18
blankdidn I pm you thoreauputic?01:18
mrchicagoshrugs01:18
blankit says something about01:18
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Seveasmrchicago, FUD01:18
sorush20you guys are so right but it just feels like Open Source world giving you a kick in the belly.. just for pasting by mistake into a channel.01:18
blankfluxbox is already the newest version.01:18
thoreauputicblank: not thatI can see...01:18
mrchicagomicrosoft is acting desperate01:18
blankoh lol01:18
slack7384mrchicago: They're probably talking about the sco case again :roll:01:18
jediborgerit shows eth0, lo, and sit0 now wlan001:19
thoreauputicblank: then you have it installed, clearly01:19
blankthoreauputic: how can I change window managers01:19
mrchicagoprobably01:19
apokryphossorush20: you pasted by mistake? Didn't look like it :P01:19
blankoh, lol, sorry01:19
jediborgerno wlan0 or ath001:19
mrchicagowhats sco worth now 10 cents01:19
Seveasblank logout and pick one when you login01:19
blankwill I be able to set it as default?01:19
thoreauputicblank: log out, choose flucnox from the sessions list01:19
apokryphosyup01:19
Seveasblank, it will ask whether you want that :)01:19
Pyfblank, yep01:19
blankokay, thanks guys, thanks a lot! :D01:19
sorush20guys I keep getting this error when I try to run the file. java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError01:19
mrchicagohow can i get dvdstyler to work01:19
dabaRblank: $2001:19
mrchicagolol01:20
blankby the way, go check out www.codeblank.net sometime, it's geared towards programmers01:20
mrchicagocool01:20
blank*takes out gum, power ranger action figure, and a sticker of 'cool' out of his pocket'01:20
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mrchicagoif i could get sdl programming code to work in unbuntu id be happy01:20
Seveasblank, please don't spam in here...01:20
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blankit's got a syntax highlighter bbcode tags for tons of languages, okay fine i'll shut up lol01:20
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erUSULjediborger: so you dont have wlan nor ath0 nor ra0 or whatever...  are you sure your card is usable in linux?01:21
blankc ya guys thanks01:21
dabaRlater01:21
blankc ya seveas01:21
mrchicagowished the ubuntu guys would just add it to synapsist01:21
Seveasbye01:21
blankc ya buds01:21
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WebLOCHHello01:21
Seveasmrchicago, libsdl$someversion-dev01:21
jediborgerI don't know if it is but I got ndiswrapper to reconize it01:21
apokryphoshi WebLOCH01:21
WebLOCHI was here a little while ago with a problem with my keyboard and mouse setup01:22
WebLOCHI was offered some advice but it didnt work01:22
WebLOCHI cant remember who offered the advice tho01:22
WebLOCHPersia I think01:22
WebLOCHbut if anyone can help I would be greatful01:22
jediborgerIt's a netgear wg111t soemone else on one of the forums said they got it to work but I can't get a response from them01:22
mrchicagoheh01:22
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dabaRWebLOCH: you need to be specific.01:22
apokryphoshola nalioth =)01:22
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WebLOCHObviously, I was just seeing if the original helpers were here01:22
apokryphosWebLOCH: state the problem and we'll see =)01:22
WebLOCHI have a logitech dinovo set01:22
WebLOCHdinovo media desktop 2.001:23
WebLOCHand it worked under Hoary fine01:23
erUSULjediborger: i hink i can not help you :( sorry01:23
persiaWebLOCH: Did you get any errors when running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?01:23
WebLOCHI upgraded to Breezy and now cannot login haha01:23
WebLOCHNo i did not01:23
jediborgerok thanks anyways01:23
get_VoIP_hereIs anyone running Asterisk under Breezy?01:23
thoreauputicjohndarkhorse: I preferred "noirequus" ;-)01:23
SeveasWebLOCH, can you paste your xorg.conf on the pastebin?01:23
johndarkhorsethoreauputic: and why is that?01:23
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thoreauputicjohndarkhorse: lovely mixture of languages ;-)01:24
WebLOCHSeveas I cant paste anything, I cant get to it :P01:24
SeveasWebLOCH, is the machine connected to the internet?01:24
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WebLOCHat the moment it is yes01:24
WebLOCHThis is my WinXP install01:24
persiaWebLOCH: Would you mind putting the InputDevice sections of your xorg.conf in the pastebin?  I'm not sure I can help, but I've been digging through docs on InputDevices recently trying to get all my keys to work.01:24
johndarkhorsethoreauputic: but the nicks ARE related01:24
WebLOCHDual boot machine01:24
Seveasok, then login at the command line and type the following commands:01:25
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thoreauputicjohndarkhorse: *cough* I guess I worked that out01:25
janedAnother question : Is there any web sites with an overview of diffrent packages? I read that there is thousands of programs accessible for ubuntu, but where do i find a complete list?01:25
Seveaswget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin01:25
h0sl3rI installed Open Office 2, but now the spell checker wont work. How can I fix this?01:25
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Seveascat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | python pastebin01:25
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johndarkhorse!tell janed about equivalents01:25
erUSULjaned: you can view them with synaptic01:25
Seveasjaned, packages.ubuntu.com01:25
oddball_okay my friend, being goofy, picked that he was in the UK during his install... whats the easiest way to fix this?  now ive set X to be US, but it requires me to hit some keys two times to get the character... such as 01:26
sorush20do I have to install Java common if I need to run a Java program01:26
apokryphosjaned: if you see there, it's searchable too. Access to around 16K packs, yes. :)01:26
oddball_and console still doesnt do things correctly.  suggestions would be awesome.01:26
Seveassorush20, you might need the sun java runtime for some programs01:26
WebLOCHOkay I shall try that01:26
WebLOCHbe back soon01:26
janedOkays :) Thanks, so packages.ubuntu.com then01:26
apokryphosyup01:27
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Seveasoddball_, system->preferences->keyboard01:27
Seveasor run base-config again01:27
blankman, I got some error loading shared library01:27
oddball_Seveas: that only fixes things in X... not console01:27
thoreauputicoddball_: not sure, but I think if you rerun sudo base-config that might do it for you01:27
blankis there a way to uninstall fluxbox01:27
oddball_Seveas: k ill try base-config01:27
Seveasblank, paste the error on the pastebin01:27
blankso that I could reinstall it after01:27
oddball_blank sudo aptitude remove fluxbox01:27
h0sl3rI installed Open Office 2, but now the spell checker wont work. How can I fix this?01:27
blankthanks01:27
Seveasblank, sudo aptitude purge fluxbox01:27
blankpurge or remove01:27
oddball_purge removes config files too01:28
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oddball_its a more complete removal i suppose.01:28
blankthanks01:28
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blankthoreauputic:  what was that command again, sudo apt-get install fluxbox01:29
thoreauputicblank: did you get fluxbox taking forever to load?01:29
dabaRSeveas: cann oddball_ try dpkg-reconfigure base-install?01:29
blanknope, instead I got some error right after logging in01:29
blankthoreauputic:  what was that command again, sudo apt-get install fluxbox01:29
thoreauputicblank: yes, but that's unlikely to fix the problem01:29
blankI'm just gonna reinstall01:29
blankcause at first I installed from debian package01:29
blankand it might've been that01:29
blankso now I'm gonna install using aptget01:29
thoreauputicblank: yes, well, the hoary version offlux has some issues01:29
blankno wonder, I'm breezy badger01:30
apokryphosblank: note that apt-get is the backend of Synaptic, the Ubuntu Package Manager. You can always use that for a pretty way of removing/adding packages01:30
thoreauputicblank: oh - don't use debian packages01:30
blankso I'm gonna use apt-get now right?01:30
blanklol exactly, my fault, sorry, I thought debian package would be easier01:30
hondjeI'm trying to file a bug in breezy, but the package isn't listed in bugzilla01:30
thoreauputicblank: check what version breezy has01:30
blankso I should try apt-get now?01:30
blanksynaptic didn't have fluxbox, I searched for it01:30
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thoreauputicblank: apt-cache policy fluxbox - what version is it?01:31
apokryphosblank: it sure does, if apt does01:31
hondjeoh, typo...ignore me01:31
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apokryphosblank: as I said, Synaptic is a GUI front-end to apt01:31
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thoreauputicblank: it's in universe01:31
janedWell, one more question ;) : There is diffrent package categories listed. << warty | hoary | hoary-backports | breezy >> Now is this based on diffrent versions of ubuntu, or, why are they categorized like this? (I ask in pure n00bish spirit ;)01:31
Seveashondje, don't we always ignore you :)01:31
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gpleddoes anyone know of a nice texted editor for writing c and assembly? something that uses color text.  would be nice to have mouse overs too.01:31
blankuniverse?01:31
hondjeSeveas: If you're smart, yes :)01:31
thoreauputic!tell blank about repos01:31
Seveasjaned, different versions indeed :)01:32
blankhey guys, what's the paste bin01:32
whyameyeI see that built-in there is something called "sticky notes" for Gnome. How do I run this?01:32
apokryphosjaned: warty, hoary, breezy are the different versions01:32
thoreauputic!paste01:32
ubotuI guess paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text01:32
Seveashttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl <= pastebin01:32
persiajaned: They are different versions of Ubuntu.  Today Hoary is the most recently released.  Breezy is expected 13th October.01:32
h0sl3rI installed Open Office 2, but now the spell checker wont work. How can I fix this?01:32
blankI know, but the universe repository?01:32
apokryphosjaned: hoary-backports is, as it suggests, backports to hoary.01:32
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apokryphosubotu: tell blank about repositories01:32
Seveash0sl3r, by running 1.1.x again01:32
thoreauputicblank: ubotu sent you an URL01:32
blankI have breezy badger01:32
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Seveas2.0 spellcheck on hoary is not functional01:32
apokryphosblank: established :)01:32
blankestablished?01:32
thoreauputicblank: the method is the same01:32
janed:) Thanks again, it probably wont be my last question lol01:32
blankyes, I'm lost but, yeah?01:33
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apokryphosblank: as in, yup, we've established that 8)01:33
thoreauputicblank: except for the word "breezy"01:33
blankoh okay01:33
h0sl3rSeveas, oo2 is much faster. Are you sure there is no other solution?01:33
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blankuh...okay01:33
blankyeah01:33
apokryphosjaned: no problem; we're here to help :)01:33
blankso should I use apt get method?01:33
blankcuase before I used debian package remember, so it might've been taht that cause the problem01:33
thoreauputicblank: as we've said, apt or synaptic01:33
apokryphosblank: once again, apt is a backend. Synaptic/apt can both be used.01:33
pakalocaI01:33
blankyeah I know, but apt-get seems to be easier for this01:33
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thoreauputicblank: whatever you prefer01:34
apokryphosblank: sure, go for it then. :)01:34
Seveas!soureces01:34
ubotuSeveas: Bugger all, i dunno01:34
apokryphoswhatever floats your boat01:34
Seveas!sources01:34
ubotusources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96901:34
blankokay, the universe repository is already in synaptic right, or do I have to add it01:34
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thoreauputic;)01:34
Seveasubotu, no sources are at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)01:34
ubotuokay, Seveas01:34
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WebLOCHHey guys01:34
apokryphosthoreauputic: you evil you01:35
thoreauputicblank: *read* the URL ubotu sent you01:35
WebLOCHBack again01:35
blankcan't find fluxbox in synaptic, you guys know what repositor I can find it in01:35
blankokay01:35
daakuany powerbook users? i'm hoping someone has a keymap & xkb file for this thing (en_US)!01:35
WebLOCHOne of the commands you gave me didnt work01:35
apokryphosblank: it's in Universe, as we said.01:35
SeveasWebLOCH, which one and what was the error?01:35
WebLOCHwget blah01:35
WebLOCHhttp 40401:35
Seveasthen you mistyped the url01:35
apokryphosblank: put this in your /etc/apt/sources.list:  deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe multiverse01:36
WebLOCHthe link you gave me was   http://ubuntulinux.nl/pastebin01:36
thoreauputicblank: review the last half hour and see how many times you find the same information :)01:36
SeveasWebLOCH, no01:36
Seveashttp://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin01:36
apokryphosblank: replace gb with your local mirror01:36
dabaR404-page not found/file not found01:36
WebLOCHhmmm01:36
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WebLOCHcheck the log im pretty sure you omitted the files bit01:36
Seveas*checking*01:36
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blankman this is all too confusing, yeah I know you guys have said the same things over again it's just that since you're all saying it at once it's kinda hard to understand lol, I'll read, thanks guys01:36
Seveas<Seveas> wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin01:36
WebLOCHhmm01:36
SeveasSo there :)01:36
WebLOCHexcuse my idiocy01:37
apokryphosblank: go for the last instruction there01:37
waterbaby999right im off to sleepies now01:37
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waterbaby999gnite everyone :)01:37
Seveas'night01:37
dabaRcya01:37
apokryphosblank: add that to your sources.list. Then: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install fluxbox01:37
dabaRapokryphos: the last instruction being the hoary repos on pastebin?01:37
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locomorto/quit01:37
locomorto/part #ubuntu ermm01:37
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apokryphosdabaR: nope; my last instruction, that is.01:38
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dabaRok, he is using breezy I think01:38
petersenhi, can somebody help me? i have problems with installing xserver01:38
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persiapetersen: What sort of problem?01:38
whyameyeisn't there a stickies applet built into Gnome? How do I use it?01:38
thoreauputicSeveas: hah - a nice way to help :)01:39
petersendont know how to install it01:39
Seveascouldn't resist the temptation :)01:39
dabaRwhyameye: right click on the panel. add to panel, select stickies01:39
thoreauputicheheh01:39
dabaRpetersen: how did you install ubuntu?01:39
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petersenfrom the cd01:39
whyameyedabaR: thanks! got it!01:39
sorush20Could someone take a look at this error I don't know how to fix it.. I have placed the  .class plugin file in the plugin folder as instructed and I keep getting this error.. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/232601:39
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dabaRpetersen: did you choose default install? or server?01:40
blankguys thanks I wub you!01:40
petersenfirst i tried default but hangs up, now "server"01:40
blankI think it's installed01:40
dabaRsorush20: context...01:40
Seveassorush20, which version of java did you install?01:40
blankI'm gonna restart now and check :D01:40
dabaRpetersen: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop01:40
SeveasdabaR, context is a program failing to launch :)01:40
sorush20dabaR, Seveas I used 1.0.501:40
Seveas1.0.5 ..?01:41
dabaRa program, eh? *the* program?01:41
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dabaRsomething he wrote?01:41
petersenok running now01:41
persiasorush20: It looks like you have a StringOutOfBounds error on line 50 of IJ,java.  You might want to trap the exception, and take a look at the details in the Exception object.01:41
mindframehrmm having problems with wifi now that i've upgraded to breezy01:41
erUSULsorush20: you are refering to 1.5.x for sure01:41
Seveassorush20, what's the output of 'java -version'01:41
Seveaspaste it on the bin or in a private chat please01:41
petersendoes it install xserver and all needet? nvidia driver too?01:42
Seveaspetersen, yes01:42
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petersenthx01:42
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Enendardoes anyone have comments about enlightenment?01:42
dabaRgood luck.01:42
NegativePlazmahas anyone successfully gotten mac on linux installed and working?01:42
avatar__hello!01:42
dabaREnendar: searched the forums? ubuntuforums.org01:42
apokryphosEnendar: will never be released, but has some cool things. Worth playing about with.01:42
thoreauputicEnendar: enlightenment is a good goal to strive towards01:43
SeveasEnendar, none other than that I think it sucks :)01:43
apokryphosEnendar: if you want to install, /msg ubotu enlightenment01:43
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sorush20java -version01:43
Seveasthoreauputic, rofl (almost physically rofl)01:43
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oddball_!w32codecs01:43
ubotuw32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repository. AMD64? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 Legal issues: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats01:43
dabaRsorush20: in a terminal01:43
WebLOCHBack again01:43
thoreauputicapokryphos: does ubotu have words of wisdom?01:43
NegativePlazma!mol01:43
ubotuI guess mol is See https://wiki.ubuntu.com//MacOnLinuxHowto for help01:43
apokryphosSeveas: it really does have a few cool things :D01:43
apokryphosthoreauputic: sometimes the most sane speaker in #ubuntu - yes 8)01:43
WebLOCHSeveas I am beginning to think that i am retarded01:43
petersenhuh, he dooing much downloads now, how much pakets will he download?01:43
thoreauputicapokryphos: :D01:44
locomortoyou can also get w32codecs for the marrilat repo01:44
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SeveasWebLOCH, don't :)01:44
erUSULSeveas: what is really worth of e17 are the libraries that rasterman writtes01:44
dabaRWebLOCH: stop that, you are fine, jsut need some guidance.01:44
locomortothats how i get it on breezy01:44
johndarkhorselocomorto: please dont recommend marillat01:44
WebLOCHSeveas I tried the commands you gave01:44
sorush20I keep getting this return on the java -verison http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/232701:44
WebLOCHAnd apparently I have written to the pastebin01:44
avatar__people... i need to recompile my kernel without the EFi partition support...01:44
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avatar__Any easy howto?01:44
WebLOCHBut it gave an error at the same time :P01:44
gigaclonjaned, just browse synaptic01:44
avatar__or precompiled without EFI?01:44
johndarkhorselocomorto: marillat will break an ubuntu box01:44
WebLOCHBecause there is no such dir as /etc/x1101:44
apokryphosOlder enlightenments did indeed suck completely oO01:44
Seveassorush20, eeeek :/ that's a bad java01:44
Seveastry installing the sun java JRE01:45
johndarkhorselocomorto: www.mplayerhq.hu on the downloads page is where you get w32codecs01:45
locomortojohndarkhorse: in what way, and how would you get it on breezy?01:45
mindframeSeveas, does breezy install ipv6?  the MAC address of my pcmcia wifi card looks crazy now that i've upgraded.01:45
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NegativePlazma!beer01:45
ubotuNegativePlazma: Syntax error in line 101:45
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SeveasWebLOCH, then you did not install a GUI environment :)01:45
NegativePlazmabahahaha01:45
blankthanks guys, I'm in fluxbox now01:45
NegativePlazmammm fluxbox goodness01:45
sorush20is there an IRC that integrates Paste bin01:45
dabaR$20 blank, I told you.01:45
Seveasmindframe, yes it does isntall ipv601:45
NegativePlazmasorush20, #flood01:45
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NegativePlazma!beer01:46
ubotuI don't know, NegativePlazma01:46
avatar__and about ati radeon in ubuntu?01:46
WebLOCHSeveas - I used the Breezy CD to upgrade from Hoary01:46
SeveasNegativePlazma, don't play with the bot01:46
WebLOCHIt is definately graphical01:46
NegativePlazmaSenjin,  sorry01:46
NegativePlazmaerr01:46
NegativePlazmaSeveas, sorry01:46
blankby the way, what file manager can I use for fluxbox01:46
SeveasWebLOCH, something went very wrong then01:46
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blankthoreauputic, you have a favorite?01:46
johndarkhorseblank: any of them01:46
locomortoblank: rox01:46
dabaRblank: any.01:46
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persiaWebLOCH: Ummm...  You really should have an /etc/X11 if you have any X environment.  You spoke earlier of a "login screen".  Can you describe that?01:46
locomortoblank: nautilus is still pretty lightweight as well01:46
WebLOCHSeveas I assume the login screen is part of the X01:46
thoreauputicblank: what does  fluxbox -version  say ? ( I'm curious what version is in breezy)01:46
WebLOCHyeah01:46
mindframehrmm how can i get rid of it, or let my wifi card use its ipv4 mac?01:47
WebLOCHConsole loads01:47
dabaRWebLOCH: it is separate.01:47
thoreauputicblank: I like rox-filer01:47
WebLOCHPresents some information01:47
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apokryphosErrrm, java is in Breezy Multiverse? news to me.01:47
locomortoblank: you'll want to use a gtk one though (ie not a qt app)01:47
oddball_ okay is w32codecs still only available from nerim?01:47
WebLOCHthen loads the slightly graphical intro, which shows modules loading etc01:47
locomortoapokryphos: it is01:47
dabaRoddball_: no. did you google?01:47
WebLOCHthen a graphical login screen appears01:47
blankso rox-filer?01:47
blankor nautilus01:47
WebLOCHprompting for user name and password01:47
oddball_dabaR: i meant a deb package of it.01:47
locomortoapokryphos: I'm using it right now01:47
apokryphoslocomorto: indeed, so I see.01:47
locomortoapokryphos: its only 1.4 though01:47
locomorto:(01:47
thoreauputicblank: I recommend rox01:48
blankyou guys like rox filer or nautilus01:48
blankrox, okay01:48
apokryphoslocomorto: it was removed from hoary-extras01:48
persiaWebLOCH: It really shouldn't be able to get that far without /etc/X11.01:48
dabaRI never use rox.01:48
WebLOCHI would agree01:48
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WebLOCHBut the command failed01:48
WebLOCHso then I tried navigating manually01:48
dabaRWebLOCH: keep it in one message. easier to read, and get your point.01:48
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WebLOCHSorry dabaR, it is a poor habit01:48
Seveasapokryphos, blackdown java is in multiverse now01:48
dabaRWebLOCH: dont be sorry to me, your point will be lost.01:49
SeveasWebLOCH, /etc/X11 is /etc/ Capital X - One - One01:49
Seveasmaybe you misspeeled it01:49
apokryphosSeveas: hoary too?01:49
WebLOCHIts possible but then I tried01:49
WebLOCHls | grep x01:49
WebLOCHto see if it would show up01:49
dabaRX01:49
Seveasapokryphos, no, just breezy01:49
WebLOCHand did not01:49
apokryphosSeveas: I'm wondering how/why it was forced out of -extras01:49
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persiaWebLOCH: You'd need either ls | grep X or ls | grep -i x.  Try again please.01:50
Seveasapokryphos, ENOF*INGCLUE01:50
thoreauputicapokryphos: because distributing sun java is illegal01:50
thoreauputicapparently01:50
Seveasit is01:50
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locomortoDid they get permission for breezy?01:51
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WebLOCHokay well lets give it a go01:51
WebLOCHthanks for your patience01:51
sorush20do i have to remove SableVM version 1.1.801:51
thoreauputiclocomorto: no, the blackdown java is different01:51
apokryphoslocomorto: it's blackdown that's in01:51
blankwtf01:51
blankI ran nautilus01:51
locomortook01:51
Seveaslocomorto, blackdown isn't sun...01:51
prolsdurm, guys -- when i try to install a theme (.tar.gz) in ubuntu it says that it's an inappropriate file format01:51
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get_VoIP_hereIts not too fifficult to download from Sun and install the binary01:51
blankand now I dont have the fluxbox menu or anything01:51
dabaRblank: :P background01:51
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FR500hello01:51
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dabaRopen a terminal, and killall nautilus01:51
blankkay01:52
thoreauputicblank: and now you can't get rid of the desktop, right?01:52
blankcept I cant open terminal01:52
dabaRblank: nautilus --no-desktop01:52
blankyeah, yeah!01:52
dabaRgo into console01:52
blankbut lol..I cant access console01:52
dabaRwhy?01:52
thoreauputicblank: ctrl-alt-F1, login killall nautilus01:52
blankcant acess anything01:52
apokryphosSeveas: how much bandwidth does your repo use roughly a month?01:52
thoreauputicblank: see above01:52
h0sl3rI live in an area where there are many wireless hotspots. Is there a program where I can view a list of all the different wireless connections? An example would be the kind that windows xp uses.01:52
FR500i have a problem, i can ping my default gateway, but whtn i do a trace to the outside network, it doesnt respond my pings, any ideas on why?01:52
dabaRblank: console is alt+ctrl+f(1-6)01:52
Seveasapokryphos, no idea, I don't measure it01:52
dabaRFR500: do you have a router?01:53
Seveasand since the big downloads (acrobat, java) are quite restricted it's not too much01:53
apokryphosSeveas: is it still not always up? Can't we get you a ~seveas/ storage account?01:53
Seveash0sl3r, sudo iwlist scan01:53
FR500dabaR, yes, but it worked just fine yesterday and about everyday01:53
dabaRapokryphos: nothing is always up;)01:53
dabaRFR500: what can you ping, the router?01:53
thoreauputicblank: lt-F7 to get back to X01:53
dabaRthoreauputic: ya, taht was important to mention:)01:54
thoreauputicblank: *alt-F701:54
FR500dabaR yes, but when i trace it wont respond01:54
Seveasapokryphos, if you don't mind being on very thin legal ice...01:54
johndarkhorseapokryphos: i've offered to host some torrents of the big files01:54
dabaRrouters dont like traceroutes. Can you ping out to google?01:54
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johndarkhorseif seveas only offered the big files as torrents and some of us hosted them01:55
CarlFKgnome-ppp - any idea how I can see the AT command/responces?01:55
FR500dabaR, yes, but it worked like an hour ago01:55
locomortoh0sl3r: kismet01:55
z|banditois there a way to forward the entire screen over ssh?01:55
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z|banditolike to be able to see the desktop01:55
whyameyeWhen Breezy is released, will my machine automatically update to it with apt-get update or apt-get upgrade?01:55
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dabaRFR500: well, then you changed something, or just need to turn everything off, then on. I dunno. What is your issue? that you cant traceroute?01:55
bur[n] eranyone know how to change the gtk theme by hand??01:55
ab9idIs anyone else having a problem accessing www.ubuntuguide.org?01:55
bur[n] ergnome-theme-manager keeps crashing since I loaded a crappy gtk theme01:56
avatar__cant access ubuntuguide01:56
FR500dabaR not exactly, long explanation01:56
petersenwhen im installing the ubuntu desktop mybe that im getting a blackscreen?01:56
apokryphosjohndarkhorse: just not as convenient as a repo01:56
dabaRz|bandito: I think VNC is used for that.01:56
locomortoh0sl3r: theres also kwifimanager but I can't vouch for it being any good (quite the oppisote really)01:56
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prolsdurm, guys -- when i try to install a theme (GNOME -- .tar.gz) in ubuntu it says that it's an inappropriate file format. Anyone care to help out?01:56
Seveasnot being able to access that crap is not a problem imho avatar__ / ab9id01:56
johndarkhorseab9id: the ubuntuguide is poison. use wike.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation01:56
thoreauputicz|bandito: or better, freenx01:56
dabaRbur[n] er: looked at the FAQs at art.gnome.org?01:56
persiaHurrah!  ubuntuguide is dead!01:56
bur[n] erdabaR: nope :)  good place to start I guess01:56
bur[n] erthanks01:56
johndarkhorsewiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumention even01:56
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apokryphospersia: probably only temporarily01:57
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z|banditofreenx?01:57
dabaRprolsd: also for you, look at the faqs at art.gnome.org01:57
thoreauputic!tell z|bandito about freenx01:57
Seveas!tell me about freenx01:57
z|banditothanks01:57
ab9idalright01:57
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thoreauputicz|bandito: it's areally good remote X system01:57
ab9idquestion two.01:57
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dabaRSeveas: msg the bot in private, why dont you ever do that?01:58
WebLOCHim back guys, ii appear to have managed finally, you were correct again... http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/232801:58
thoreauputicSeveas: is the wiki page still accurate for freenx?01:58
ab9idis there a guide to sharing my local printer (on ubuntu) by ip.  (so other systems can access it similar to a jet direct?)01:58
SeveasdabaR, actually, I do that a lot :)01:58
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dabaRoki01:58
SPCcrow!info limewire01:58
Seveasthoreauputic, yes01:58
prolsddabaR, that was exactly what i was looking for.01:58
thoreauputicSeveas: OK thanks01:58
prolsddoesn't help when i look for 'documentation' instead of FAQ. gg.01:58
dabaRprolsd: there is a tutorial?01:58
x[BrB] xhow can i run MP3?01:58
prolsdthanks.01:58
dabaRwelcome, is there a faq on that?01:59
bur[n] erdabaR: no luck there... any idea bout chanign the gtk theme by hand?  know what file it is?01:59
thoreauputicx[BrB] x: /msg ubotu mp301:59
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kevogodtell x[BrB] x about restricted01:59
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kevogod!tell x[BrB] x about restricted01:59
x[BrB] xty01:59
thoreauputicx[BrB] x: or just  do sudo apt-get install xmms01:59
h0sl3rIs there a wireless network viewer. One sort of like windows has? I want to be able to view the essid and choose which network to connect to. Anyone know of one?01:59
thoreauputicand set output plugin to esound01:59
dabaRprolsd: tell me, is there an faq about installing themes there?01:59
persiaWebLOCH: I don't see anything wrong with that.  It should be collecting keyboard events from the same source used for the virtual consoles.  My apologies that I cannot be of more help.02:00
prolsdthere is.02:00
z|banditois it the same screen as displayed on the local VGA display?  or is it a seperate login?02:00
dabaRbur[n] er: ^02:00
WebLOCHthanks anyway persia02:00
WebLOCHSeveas any further advice?02:00
WebLOCHI might give up and reinstall hoary02:00
SPCcrowis there a deb package for limewire?02:00
dabaRSPCcrow: no.02:00
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SPCcrowand whats a good way to install a .deb package?02:01
regeyanever give up, never surrender!02:01
regeyayikes.02:01
dabaRSPCcrow: get the bin from their web site.02:01
bur[n] erdabaR: it's not there, I swear02:01
Da_SWAThow can I permanently 'save' options like "xset -b". Can I create a separate textfile and link it to my startup somehow?02:01
persiaWebLOCH: If you decide to reinstall, you may do as well to reinstall Breezy Colony 4, as it may just work.02:01
WebLOCHhaha, easier said than done02:01
dabaRhttp://art.gnome.org/faq.php#q602:01
bur[n] erdabaR: it says how to install them, but not how to change them... without using gnome-theme-manager that is02:01
z|banditothere is probably a deb from gnutella, which limewire connects to02:01
regeyathat's like the millionth time someone this weekend has asked for a deb of limewire.02:01
z|banditofrom=for02:01
thoreauputicDa_SWAT: put it in ~/.bashrc02:01
dabaRbur[n] er: aha.02:01
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WebLOCHPersia, I tried that first of all, it did not work, It stopped after it got to loading the keyboard and mouse :P02:01
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regeyawhy would there be a deb of such a blatantly commercial piece of software???!?02:01
WebLOCHSo I had to install Hoary and Upgrade02:01
don824chanwahoo i got my wireless linux laptop working02:02
dabaRbur[n] er: it may be in Apps>System Tools>COnf editor, I dont use gnome any more, so I dont kno.02:02
dabaRregeya: ya !!!???!?!?02:02
h0sl3rIs there a wireless network viewer. One sort of like windows has? I want to be able to view the essid and choose which network to connect to. Anyone know of one?02:02
persiaWebLOCH: Ah..  Well, at least Hoary will be supported for some time in the future :)02:02
bur[n] erdabaR: i can't launch gconf-editor either ;)  my gtk theme is all f'd up02:02
regeyagtk-gnutella - shares files in a peer to peer network02:02
ab9idquestion 3, can someone point me at the config file I need to edit to change which NTP server ubuntu attempts to contact at boot?02:02
regeyamutella - Gnutella client with command line and http interface02:02
get_VoIP_hereregaya: I think its because Limewire used to distribute .deb packages, but stopped not that long ago02:02
Da_SWATthoreauputic, thnx :)02:03
regeyalibgnutella-gift - giFT plugin for the Gnutella network02:03
thoreauputicDa_SWAT: np :)02:03
locomortoh0sl3r: right click on two windows in system tray02:03
dabaRregeya: I love you for mutella.02:03
locomortoh0sl3r: go configure02:03
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regeyaheh02:03
locomortoh0sl3r: go properties -> configure02:03
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x[BrB] xis there a nero for ubuntu?02:03
ab9idx[BrB] x, it's called cdrecord02:03
locomortoclick on the wireless connection box02:03
rigelis there something i need to do in k3e in order to burn dvds at higher than 1x?02:03
regeyajust sayin'. there's more than one gnutella client in the repos already.02:04
locomortothen click on properties02:04
FR500dabaR man i can't believe it.........routing bit was on 002:04
thoreauputicx[BrB] x: Ubuntu is free software - nero is commercial02:04
FR500dabaR dang forgot about it02:04
rigeli set it to 8, the speed of the blanks. it recognizes them as such02:04
Iskaiwoohoo! - first time with Ubuntu and it works!02:04
rigelit just doesnt burn at anything greter than 1x02:04
locomortoyou can set it up in there02:04
dabaRFR500: at least you made it work.02:04
locomortoOtherwsie use kismet02:04
bur[n] erdabaR: thanks for the help... i'll just dig through ~/.gconf :)02:04
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h0sl3rlocomorto: uhh, what?02:04
locomortobut i dont think it will let you connect02:04
dabaRbur[n] er: good luck.02:04
x[BrB] xok02:04
dabaRIskai: ya, I love ubuntu and linux too.02:04
ab9idanyone know where the config lives that chooses the NTP server that ubuntu attempts to contact at boot time?02:04
FR500dabaR well the whol topology was more complex, working on pptp tunnels but the idea was that02:04
benkong2is there an extras repo for breezy? looking for checkinstall and auto-apt02:04
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locomortobenkong2: checkinstall is in universe...02:05
thoreauputicx[BrB] x: if you want a nice GUI for CD burning, try graveman or gnomebaker02:05
dabaRgift is annoying imo02:05
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FR500what is gift?02:05
benkong2locomorto; ok for breezy?02:05
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regeyanever tried it.02:05
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thoreauputicbenkong2: those would be in universe02:05
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Seveas!info checkinstall breezy02:05
ubotucheckinstall: (installation tracker), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.5.3-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 132 kB02:05
regeyak3b is more complete than either graveman or gnomebaker, but I tend to use gnomebaker for most and just use a term for video dvds02:05
locomortobenkong2: network-manager is in the breezy repos02:06
shawnzmmk, i'm sshing to my other computer. any way i can run vnc or xdmcp or something on the already-started display?02:06
Seveasyup it is :)02:06
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locomortobenkong2: but it wont be finsihed02:06
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[D] aA`yikeswhat kernel version does breezy come with?02:06
locomortobenkong2: And checkinstall is still in universe there02:06
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benkong2thoreauputic; locomorto thanks they were commented out in my sources.list02:06
locomorto2.6.12.4?02:06
WebLOCHSeveas - Any final offerings before I resort to Hoary again ?02:06
x[BrB] xdoes the cd burning in ubuntu support drag and drop?02:06
[D] aA`yikesthanks a lot02:06
locomortoor .302:06
regeyaunsharp mask in gimp is damn slow.02:06
locomortonot sure i'll check02:06
[D] aA`yikesokay02:06
SeveasWebLOCH, not really02:06
thoreauputicx[BrB] x: yes02:06
khermansis there a repo to get the Sun JDK for Breezy installed?02:06
WebLOCHokay well thanks guys02:06
locomorto2.6.12-802:07
mindframecan anyone tell me why the mac address on my wifi card looks like this: 00-0C-30-E9-7B-D3-30-3A-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00  now that ive upgraded to breezy?02:07
[D] aA`yikesthanks locomorto02:07
locomortonp02:07
[D] aA`yikesdoes it by any chance come with inotify?02:07
Seveasmindframe, funky ... :)02:07
locomortoyes02:07
[D] aA`yikesawesome02:07
WebLOCHtake care all02:07
[D] aA`yikesgoing to download ubuntu now02:07
[D] aA`yikestake care everyone02:07
[D] aA`yikesthanks for the help02:08
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apokryphosAu revoir02:08
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x[BrB] xThere were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins02:08
x[BrB] xi still cant run movies02:08
Seveaskhermans, check your private messages :)02:08
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mindframeSeveas, its no fun, my card cant find my router now even when i disable the mac filter.02:09
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x[BrB] xthoreauputic There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins02:10
thoreauputicx[BrB] x:  libdvdcss2 and w32codecs02:10
khermansSeveas, is this the sunjdk1.5 ?02:10
Plutohelp with SAMBA, NAUTILUS... I connect using "PLACES" -> "Connect to Server"; the desktop link is fine but where the hell it was mount? I check /mnt and /media..02:10
FR500Pluto: you need gnome vfs compliant apps to use that mounts i guess02:11
h0sl3rIs there a wireless network viewer. One sort of like windows has? I want to be able to view the essid and choose which network to connect to. Anyone know of one?02:11
thoreauputicx[BrB] x: are you using totem? If so I suggest you install totem-xine02:11
SPCcrowkismet02:11
khermansx[BrB] x, you should give vlc a try02:11
FR500SPCcrow: thats killing a fly with a hammer02:11
khermansx[BrB] x, sudo aptitude install vlc02:11
FR500h0sl3r: sudo iwlist interface_name scan02:11
h0sl3rFR500, thanks02:12
Seveaskhermans, jdk and jre for 1.5 and 1.4 are available02:12
SeveasPluto, it's not mounted02:12
thoreauputicx[BrB] x: khermans is right - vlc is also a possibility02:12
Seveasit uses the gnome virtual filesystem02:12
FR500h0sl3r: there are some applets to look for that in the gui02:12
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PlutoSEVEAS: YES it is, but just in the desktop.02:12
h0sl3rFR500: i get errors saying my interface doesnt support scanning. Is this the end of the line?02:12
FR500h0sl3r: try iwlist scan02:13
x[BrB] xim installing it now02:13
x[BrB] xthanks02:13
SeveasPluto, that's not mounted :)02:13
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FR500Pluto: it's not really mounted, it's mouted via gnome virtual file system02:13
sorush20do I need JDK to run Java applications02:13
Seveassorush20, no, just the JRE02:13
FR500with emphasis on virtual02:13
khermanssorush20, no just the JRE02:13
khermanslol02:13
fysaInstallation freezing with AMD64/NForce4 and Breezy preview.  After detecting network and whatever comes after that.  CTRL-C brings up "Starting up the partitioner" at 52% and another freeze.02:13
x[BrB] xi still can't play it :(02:14
shawnzhello? :(02:14
FR500Pluto: it you use the mapped drive frequently you can mount it on boot02:14
khermansfysa, yes the partitioner has trouble -- i have seen that on many machines02:14
Seveashi shawnz :)02:14
h0sl3rFR500: nope. non of my interfaces allow scanning.02:14
Kyralhmm02:14
FR500h0sl3r: though luck then02:14
sorush20Seveas:  khermans, when I type apt-get install sun-j2re1.5  I get the message that it is already installed.02:14
h0sl3rok02:14
Kyralmy school maintains an AFS server for students02:14
khermanssorush20, thats good02:14
FR500h0sl3r: some cards need different drivers to allow for scanning02:14
Kyralcan I mount that?02:14
khermanssorush20, so you should be able to run java apps02:14
FR500h0sl3r: what card is it?02:14
PlutoSEVEAS:FR500: THANKS: I will mount it, the old way..02:14
Seveassorush20, then do: sudo update-alternatives --config java02:14
Seveassorush20, then do: sudo update-alternatives --config javac02:15
Kyralso I can stop having to fire up gFTP?02:15
Seveas(both)02:15
FR500Pluto: no prob02:15
fysaOh, this is with using linux noapic.02:15
FR500what is AFS?02:15
khermansfirefox -> wp afs02:15
fysakhermans: downloading the daily now.. hopefully this will fix it.02:15
KyralAndrews File System or something02:15
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Fred|Fr3dhey, how can i *KILL* my iptables firewall? i removed it in synaptic but i still cant access anythnig02:16
sorush20Seveas: I changed the first config file02:16
FR500AFS looks cool, but samba via pptp tunnel is sooooooo easy02:16
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Fred|Fr3dhow do i kill iptables? i uninstalled it but it's still in effect :S02:17
SeveasFred|Fr3d, iptables is part of the linux kernel...02:17
Fred|Fr3dwell, how do i kill it's rules?02:17
mindframei think he wants to flush all of the rules02:17
sorush20Seveas: but the second file says that there is only on app present .. which is the the SableV02:17
Seveasiptables -F flushes the currently active set of rules02:17
Fred|Fr3dthanks02:17
FR500Fred|Fr3d: iptables -F02:17
FR500dan02:17
FR500g02:18
sorush20Seveas: but the second file says that there is only on app present .. which is the the SableVM02:18
Seveassorush20, ok, sounds reasonable since you only have the sun jre installed02:18
Seveassorush20, then do: sudo update-alternatives --config jar02:18
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shawnz<shawnz> mmk, i'm sshing to my other computer. any way i can run vnc or xdmcp or something on the already-started display? << anyone? :(02:18
sorush20Seveas: I get fast Jar02:18
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CarlFKshawnz - I belive you can start up VNC and take over your current desktop02:19
FR500shawnz: you have to enable them first02:19
KyralI know I can install support on it...02:19
Kyralbut can I mount it.....I know the computers in the lab do02:19
Kyral(and no they aren't on it)02:19
shawnzyes02:19
KyralSeveas I just gotta install the FreeNX server, fire it up, and then go fire up the client in the labs?02:19
shawnzbut vnc wants to make a new display02:19
shawnzim wondering if i can start it on the one i have already02:19
khermansSeveas, did you build this sunjdk-1.5 yourself or rip the debian pkg ?02:19
shawnzand just continue02:19
x[BrB] xwhen i tried to play my mp3 i says file cannot be loaded02:19
FR500vnc doesn't make new displays02:19
khermansx[BrB] x, in what?02:19
CarlFKshawnz - find the option that doesn't create a new display.  it will use the exising one, and thats what you want02:19
Seveaskhermans, it are packages created with make-jpkg on a breezy system02:20
FR500shawnz: VNC accesses the display "on the screen now"02:20
shawnzand which option is that :p02:20
shawnzFR500: not when you run it through ssh remotely.02:20
shawnzunless im using the wrong command02:20
FR500oh02:20
khermansSeveas, sweet dude -- just waiting for it to complete -- grabbing it now from you02:20
FR500kewl02:20
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FR500lots to lear yet02:20
x[BrB] xkhermans in rhymbox music player02:20
khermansx[BrB] x, you probably need libmp302:20
CarlFKshawnz - read me the part in man vncserver that describes it ;)02:20
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KyralSeveas anyway to shut DOWN the FreeNX server when I don't need it?02:21
zburnsHow do I modify a shortcut in the Applications menu (need to change a parameter)?02:21
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SeveasKyral, it opens no ports02:21
prolsdhmm.02:21
shawnz       vncserver Invokes Xvnc on the next available display and with  suitable02:21
shawnz                 defaults.02:21
x[BrB] xwhat shall i do??02:21
Seveasshutdown ssh and freenx goes down with it02:21
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KyralSo just shut down SSHD02:21
Seveasyup02:21
Kyralstill I'd like to kill processes when I don't need them02:21
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Seveasit has no processes :)02:21
blankubuntu doesn't come with GCC/G++?02:22
Kyraleh?02:22
bur[n] erblank: apt-get install build-essential02:22
blankI'm downloading it right now, just surprised...02:22
Seveasfunny huh :)02:22
blankokay02:22
khermansx[BrB] x, try this http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs02:22
Kyralblank sudo apt-get install build-essential02:22
blanki just used synaptic02:22
shawnzblank, open a terminal and 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'02:22
Seveasblank, apt-get install build-essential02:22
CarlFKwow.02:22
Kyralthen how does it work..02:22
x[BrB] xthanks02:22
Kyralno process...*confused...*02:22
SeveasKyral, I'm planning on writing a short explanation on it02:22
blankokay I did the install build essential02:22
blankthat'll give me gcc and g++?02:22
khermansx[BrB] x, you first need to add the multiverse/universe repos02:23
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khermansx[BrB] x, see step #202:23
bur[n] erblank: si senor02:23
blankyay it works thanks02:23
Seveasin short: NX connects to your machine using ssh and a well-known private/public keypair02:23
shawnzblank: that gives you gcc, g++, make, etc02:23
blankthanks :)02:23
blankby eguys02:23
Fred|Fr3dSeveas: iptables -F doesnt help :'(02:23
Seveasthe NX server is the shell of the 'nx' user on your system02:23
Kyrala well-known...02:23
bur[n] erSeveas: know if NX can be used to show the same display remotely and locally?02:23
bur[n] erala vino style?02:23
Kyraluhh how can I specifiy MY private/public?02:23
SeveasKyral, that has no security implications ;)02:23
Seveasbur[n] er, NX can tunnel vnc02:24
KyralSeveas, I'm paranoid :D02:24
Fred|Fr3dSeveas: iptables -F doesnt help :'(02:24
x[BrB] xkhermans url cannot be found02:24
SeveasKyral, even them it has no security implications02:24
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persiaI am running Breezy with a Japanese keyboard, and have not been able to get both '] ' and '_' working at the same time.  I've tried adjusting /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and with XkbLayout set to "jp", I can use '_', but not '] '.  If I set to "jp106", the reverse is true.  Both keys work perfectly in console.  Could anyone point me in the right direction to fix this?  Either a local file or an online resource would be welcome.02:24
bur[n] erSeveas: uhh?  is it hard to setup that way?02:24
shawnzmk02:24
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Seveasbur[n] er, read the docs on nomachine.com02:24
Fred|Fr3dSeveas: nevermind it seems to let me in now :)02:24
shawnzi dont see an option in man vncserver to start it on the already existing display02:24
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shawnzexecpt vncserver :1 which errors02:24
bur[n] ergood call... thanks Seveas02:24
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Kyralso I just install it and let it fly02:24
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SeveasKyral, no, because even if you know the private key you can't deduct the session key used by ssh02:25
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Kyralthen fire up the Windows Client and connect to my IP?02:25
Seveasread an rsa primer on that ;(02:25
Seveas;)02:25
khermansx[BrB] x, http://67.15.97.2/#codecs02:25
Octaneanyone else here experiencing problems with PHP/MySQL and Apache in breezy?02:25
shawnzWarning: ubuntu-server:1 is not taken because of /tmp/.X1-lock02:25
shawnzRemove this file if there is no X server ubuntu-server:102:25
shawnzA VNC server is already running as :102:25
CarlFKshawnz - that may be it.  you may need to tell X to allow the 2nd connection or something02:25
SeveasKyral, install, enable access per-user and then you can fly :)02:25
CarlFKshawnz - then that isn't it02:25
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khermansx[BrB] x, your DNS servers have probably not updated yet -- the DNS record was recently changed02:25
OctaneEven though I have all the appropriate packages installed, I get " Call to undefined function: mysql_select_db()"02:25
KyralSeveas, I'm the only user on my system :D02:25
CarlFKshawnz - it is probably going to be :002:25
SeveasKyral, then enable access for that user :)02:26
x[BrB] xok02:26
shawnz...going to be what?02:26
Kyralhow...02:26
Seveassudo nxserver --adduser $USER02:26
Seveassudo nxserver --passwd $USER02:26
x[BrB] xkhermans so im in where im i going next?02:26
KyralI know how to compile stuff and the inner workings of Linux yet I suck at system admin :P02:26
XorlevOkay, I have this fstab line, and it seems to be mounting as read only when I was mounting it under /home, but elsewhere was fine. /dev/sda1       /home               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       002:26
CarlFKshawnz - what is the vncserver command you ran to get "A VNC server is already running as :1" ?02:26
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shawnz'vncserver :1'02:26
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KyralI feel ashamed02:26
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shawnzi guess it said that because x1-lock was there02:27
Kyralnow I have to convince the guy incharge of the COSI Build of Gentoo install a FreeNX client02:27
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SeveasKyral, not really02:27
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Seveasthere is a web plugin :)02:27
KyralI'd rather not :P02:27
khermansx[BrB] x, yeah that IP is weird02:27
Seveasyour call ;)02:27
KyralI feel better keeping it local to my campus net02:27
khermansx[BrB] x, he might be using modrewrite02:28
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Seveasmod_rewrite is nice02:28
SeveasI use it for the access control bits of my repo :)02:28
Kyralits installing ssh..02:28
KyralBut I already HAVE SSH and OpenSSH...02:28
khermanswell ubuntuguides DNS recently changed, so  gave him the IP mine resolves too, but he uses modrewite possibly and I dont know which directory the guide is in02:28
Seveaswhat is installing?02:29
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Seveaswhat is installing *ssh*?02:29
Kyrala bunch of libs02:29
Kyralfreenx02:29
khermansSeveas, he wants MP3 support02:29
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Seveasyeah, freenx needs some libs02:29
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absenthcan someone point me to a good samba guide for idiots?02:29
Seveasread the complete list on http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (the freenx section ;))02:29
Seveasabsenth, upgrade to breezy02:30
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absenthSeveas, I'm on breezy02:30
khermansbreezy is really nice02:30
Seveasit has a for-idiots gui to samba02:30
shawnzdoesnt hoary aswell?02:30
shawnz:/02:30
cafuego_Hmm, what's the name again of that trojan scanner?02:30
KyralI'm wondering why its installing the SSH package when I already have the functionality02:30
shawnzcafuego_: clamav?02:30
Seveassystem -> administration -> shared folders02:30
absenthSeveas, ok, um, where might it be?  is it a package I add02:30
FibreOpticQUESTION: does the breezy installer have an upgrade option?02:30
Seveassystem -> administration -> shared folders <=== absenth02:30
Kyralah02:30
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absenthSeveas, does that work for printers?  Thanks.02:30
Kyralits just the Meta-Package02:30
SeveasFibreOptic, yes (and please don't use ALL CAPS)02:30
shawnzFibreOptic: insert the cd while ubuntu is started and you'll get a message asking you to upgrade.02:31
khermansFibreOptic, dont know -- but you can do that yourself over the network so why download the CD!!??!02:31
LinuxJonescafuego, chkrootkit ?02:31
Seveasabsenth, no, but the printer setup dialog handles those02:31
cafuego_shawnz: No... there's one that always reports false prositives in /proc for 2.6 kernels.. can't rememebr the name, though02:31
cafuego_LinuxJones: thanks :-)02:31
LinuxJones:)02:31
x[BrB] xwhats next guys hehehe02:31
Kyraland adding user to nxserver doesn't work02:31
FibreOpticfirst, apologies for the caps, secondly thanks for the answer02:32
Seveasthe problem being?02:32
Kyralits trying to use the password option or something02:32
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khermansx[BrB] x, http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:oCNVrC8mgQ8J:ubuntuguide.org/+ubuntuguide+codecs&hl=en&client=firefox02:32
Seveaswhat's the error?02:32
khermansx[BrB] x, go to the CODECS section02:32
Kyralno error02:32
Kyralwant me to PM the terminal output?02:32
x[BrB] xkhermans ok02:32
Seveaswould help :)02:32
FibreOptickhermans: okay, how can I do the network install?02:32
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johndarkhorseKyral: a pastebin allows others to throw in their .02 cents02:33
_n00blar_Has anyone been able to run LimWire pro on Ubuntu 5.10?02:33
locomorto_n00bler: yes02:33
locomortosudo alien <name of rpm download>02:34
khermansFibreOptic, type this in your terminal --> sudo sed -ei s/hoary/breezy/g /etc/apt/sources.list02:34
absenthSeveas, so, from the printer configuration I can SHARE a linux printer via samba to a winderz machine?02:34
_n00blar_locomorto, for some reason my copy complains on the version of java (1.42) loaded on ubuntu02:34
locomortosudp dpkg -i <name of new deb file>02:34
locomortoIt runs though?02:34
khermansFibreOptic, sorry ---> sudo sed -ei 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list02:34
_n00blar_locomorto, nope doesn't run02:34
locomortowhat does it say?02:35
Seveasabsenth, ehrm no, my bad02:35
FibreOpticsounds insanely simple :)02:35
locomortohmm02:35
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absenthSeveas, that's the ultimate goal, share a linux printer, to a windows client.02:35
_n00blar_locomorto, says,...Maybe you're using the wrong version of Java?02:35
sybariteni've broken my Gnome02:35
locomortoIts a problemt with the blackdown installers02:35
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locomortohold on a sec02:35
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_n00blar_locomorto, I installed the latest release from Sun 1.5..but I can't tell it to use that one..don't know how to tell it to use that one instead02:36
FibreOptickhermans: thanks for that.02:36
absenthsybariten, I'm sorry, but the FIRST thing that came to mind when you wrote that was EXTREMELY painful to me.02:36
khermansFibreOptic, you also need to --> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade02:36
locomortounistall the blackdown one (its easy to spot (its the version 1.4 one))02:36
locomortoand did you follow the wiki?02:37
x[BrB] xkhermans it says  Couldn't find package w32codecs02:37
sybaritenabsenth: let me guess that you thought of something somewhat more .... 'physical' than my actual problems are02:37
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absenthsybariten, unfortunatly.02:37
khermansFibreOptic, after you do --> sudo sed -i 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list02:37
locomortoYour on breezy right?02:37
_n00blar_locomorto, uninstall the blackdown?..02:37
_n00blar_yes02:37
x[BrB] xkhermans it says Package gstreamer0.8-plugins has no installation candidate02:37
sybaritenmy guess is that if i had broken my "Gnome" (winks eyebrows) ... i wouldnt have this error message   "There was a problem registering02:38
sybaritenthe panel with the bonobo-activation server.  The error code is 3. The02:38
sybaritenpanel will now exit."02:38
j0nas`hey... can't seem to find package sun-j2sdk1.5... i have hoary-extras and hoary-backports repositories enabled... what gives?02:38
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sybaritenooops multiline quote, unintentional02:38
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khermansx[BrB] x, type this in a terminal --> sudo sed -i 's/main restricted/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list02:38
locomorto_n00blar_: search for j2re-1.4 or something similiar and kill that02:39
locomortoin a methaphorical sense02:39
x[BrB] xdone02:39
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khermansx[BrB] x, now --> sudo aptitude update02:39
x[BrB] xkhermans nothing happend02:39
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x[BrB] xok02:39
j0nas`has the sun-j2sdk1.5 package been removed or something?02:39
_n00blar_locomorto, I have....and there's nothing like that on my system. I found something else.. gij that relates to that but it has dependencies02:39
apokryphosj0nas`: yes02:40
khermansx[BrB] x, and --> sudo aptitude install w32codecs02:40
j0nas`why?02:40
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apokryphosj0nas`: legal reasons02:40
j0nas`because the firefox symlink is broken?02:40
j0nas`oh02:40
apokryphosj0nas`: i.e. they were illegal :)02:40
j0nas`so you got to go by hand now02:40
j0nas`so to speak02:40
locomortowhats the full error then?02:40
apokryphosj0nas`: or upgrade to Breezy, yes.02:40
j0nas`breezy?02:40
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locomortopaste it here: paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:40
_n00blar_locomorto, ok..I'll paste it...where's the place to paste stuff that's over 3 lines?02:41
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BlueEaglekhermans: There's been issues with the w32codecs for a few days. Neems to have fallen out of the hoary-extras repos.02:41
khermansx[BrB] x, work for ya?02:41
j0nas`what is breezy?02:41
apokryphosubotu: tell j0nas` about breezy02:41
j0nas`thanks02:41
x[BrB] xits still updating02:41
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magnonHm, I just installed Breezy on my powerbook, and although the graphical keymap preview shows the right things, the keymap is still US - not Norwegian. Anyone have any idea?02:41
khermansBlue-Box, weird02:41
locomortopaste.ubuntulinux.nl02:41
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BlueEaglekhermans: To got mplayerhq.hu and put the essential pack in /usr/lib/w32 (if memory serves)02:41
j0nas`what is the update-alternatives command to add the sun jdk?02:42
khermansBlueEagle, i dont use it anyways02:42
johndarkhorseBlueEagle: its /usr/local/lib/codecs02:42
khermansBlueEagle, tell x[BrB] x02:42
johndarkhorsekhermans: it's /usr/local/lib/codecs where you put the codecs02:42
khermansBlueEagle, I use vlc because all the codecs are legal02:42
BlueEaglekhermans: ahh, my bad.02:42
sybariteni'm in Gnome with one account, have pressed ctrl-F2 to get a new console in order to create a new account... is adduser the command ?02:42
daakucan someone tell me what package /etc/X11/X belongs to in breezy?02:42
_n00blar_ok, done02:42
sybaritenany problems with using a commandline version ?02:42
khermansdaaku, Xorg02:42
BlueEaglemagnon: Let me reboot and send a /msg to me while I do that explaining which keys are not working right.02:42
x[BrB] xis that im going to do after the update?02:43
khermansx[BrB] x, sudo aptitude install w32codecs02:43
johndarkhorsesybariten: go right ahead with yoru commandline creation02:43
_n00blar_locomorto, ok, I think i pasted in the right channel02:43
locomortoYou sure?02:43
x[BrB] xgot it02:43
locomorto_n00blar_: paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:43
j0nas`apokryphos: do you happen to know the update-alternatives command to add sun jdk?02:43
daakukhermans: a little more specific?02:43
locomortogoto that site02:43
khermansx[BrB] x, so it installed02:43
apokryphosj0nas`: how exactly would update-alternatives add the jdk?02:43
Kyralwhat what what now?02:44
Kyralthe sunjdk package is gone?02:44
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apokryphosKyral: yes, and j2re02:44
j0nas`sorry add apropriate symlinks02:44
j0nas`appropriate*02:44
Kyral...psh who needs them02:44
Kyralstops a load of banner ads :D02:44
_n00blar_ok, maybe i'm not familiar with pasting on that channel02:44
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apokryphosKyral: an awful lot of people, apparently :D02:44
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khermansdaaku, xserver-xorg ?02:45
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DansFloydwhats a good TV tuner program for Linux?02:45
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apokryphosj0nas`: not quite sure, I'm afraid.02:45
j0nas`ok thanks...02:45
khermansDansFloyd, try mythtv if you want the whole TiVi thing02:45
cafuego_If they'd used to NORMAL way toa dd java, as opposed to a non-legal apckage, they'd be fine. Blame whoever broke the wiki.02:45
locomortoDansFloyd: MythTV02:45
DansFloydthanks02:45
j0nas`dansfloyd: xawtv or motv as well02:45
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daakukhermans: maybe the output of dpkg -S /etc/X11/X ?02:46
DansFloydi can i install MythTVfrom synaptic?02:46
x[BrB] xkhermans im done02:47
x[BrB] xit still not working02:47
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khermansx[BrB] x, did you install all the codecs and plugins -- including the gstreamer-plugins ?02:47
daakukhermans: i'm doing a fine tuned install of the modularized xorg packages to see what i *really* need02:48
bur[n] erooh... the new lock screen rules :)02:48
khermansx[BrB] x, i would try installing vlc and playing things with that -- because all codecs are legal02:48
DansFloydnevermind i found it. Thanks!02:49
x[BrB] xdo i have to install all of them02:49
_n00blar_Ok, how do i paste stuff on past.ubuntulinux.nl ...i don't think joining this does it02:49
SPCcrowis there a ubuntu package for the JRE02:49
khermansx[BrB] x, yes all that were listed on the #codecs link i sent you02:49
MadpilotSPCcrow: in hoary-extras there is02:49
locomortoits a website02:50
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SPCcrowMadpilot: Do you know the name of it?02:50
khermansx[BrB] x, lame are probably the only MP3 related ones02:50
poningru!tell SPCcrow about java02:50
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Madpilotspine55: search for j2re in Synaptic, if you've got -extras repo enabled02:50
daakucould someone on breezy do me a favor and give me the output of dpkg -S /etc/X11/X ?02:50
locomorto_n00blar_ did you go to the website?02:50
j0nas`madpilot: its not there anymore02:50
apokryphosMadpilot, SPCcrow: java was taken out of hoary-extras02:50
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j0nas`its been removed02:50
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poningruwtf02:50
_n00blar_locomorto, ok done02:51
j0nas`which btw sucks big time02:51
SPCcrowNoticed that one..02:51
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cycomhey, I've got an ntfs drive that I want my normal user to be able to access from gentoo. I don't have permissions to access the partition02:51
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Madpilotapokryphos, j0nas`, SPCcrow: hmmm... I guess I've still got it listed because it's installed here...02:51
apokryphoscycom: if it's in fstab, just change the umask02:51
daakucycom: read only?02:51
apokryphosMadpilot: yup02:52
cycomdaaku: ya02:52
_n00blar_locomorto, I have installed Sun java 1.5 and I've got all the env. variables set in my .bashrc_profile02:52
cycomapokryphos: umask?02:52
Madpilotapokryphos: well, that sucks... I guess it's still installable from the Sun website...02:52
apokryphosMadpilot: yeah, but a sucky alternative :P02:52
khermansdaaku, i didnt get anything02:52
apokryphosMadpilot: unfortunately the ubuntulinux.nl doesn't have a hoary repo anymore02:52
daakucycom: what apokryphos said, change the umask or change the uid (if you only want it to be readable by one specific user)02:52
apokryphosMadpilot: so no java from there02:53
locomorto_n00blar_ try purging j2re-1.4.202:53
locomortosudo dpkg --purge j2re-1.4.202:53
khermansdaaku, but /usr/bin/X gives xserver-common02:53
cycomdaaku: there isn't really a manpage on it directly. where can I find man info?02:53
daakukhermans: alright, thanks02:53
apokryphoscycom: yes, as an option.02:53
_n00blar_locomorto, oh, ok...I've been searching using synaptic and nothing came up. let me try that02:53
cycomapokryphos: same question02:53
Madpilotapokryphos: the mirrormax backports doesn't have it?02:53
apokryphoscycom: there is; man fstab02:53
cycomok. thanks!02:54
apokryphosMadpilot: that is hoary-extras, nope.02:54
daakucycom: man mount will help02:54
locomortotry just j2re1.402:54
Madpilotapokryphos: isn't Breezy going to ship with one of the Free Javas installed?02:54
locomortoyes02:54
apokryphosMadpilot: Breezy Multiverse has Blackdown java though; and ubuntulinux has all the sun packs for breezy02:54
locomortoit ships with blackdown02:54
_n00blar_hmmm...nada02:54
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apokryphosMadpilot: correct, yes. In Multiverse.02:54
locomortoit does not work out of the box with limewire though02:55
_n00blar_I'm getting: ignoring request to remove j2re1.4 which isn't installed.02:55
_n00blar_locomorto, nope02:55
apokryphos_n00blar_: what's the problem?02:55
khermansMadpilot, i think the jre is installed by default02:55
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locomortocheck the paste site02:55
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apokryphoskhermans: on breezy? Not at all, nope.02:55
khermanswhy did i have java ?02:56
locomortoit is02:56
apokryphoskhermans: why do you have it? Because you installed it?02:56
locomortoIf you do a clean install then you get it02:56
daakukhermans: could you tell me if /etc/X11/X is a symlink to something? (startx dies saying no such file for /etc/X11/X)02:56
khermansi definitely dindt install the jre, but i have it02:56
locomortokhermans: dont worry02:56
locomortokhermans: it was preinstalled for me too02:56
apokryphoskhermans: Breezy doesn't ship with multiverse, so it can't really be installed by default.02:56
_n00blar_1.4 came with breezy...and my copy of limewire will not work...I tried installing 1.5 and i can't get limewire to use 1.5 instead of 1.4.202:56
khermansdaaku, /etc/X11/X -> /usr/bin/X11/Xorg02:56
daakukhermans: nice, thanks02:56
apokryphosperhaps if you enalbe multiverse it is, I don't know.02:56
locomortoOk, BREEZY = JAVA BY ****ING DEFAULT02:57
thoreauputicapokryphos: breezy comes with some "free" java stuff02:57
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apokryphosWhat java?02:57
locomortoblackdown02:58
_n00blar_yes, and it's called gij from what I gather02:58
apokryphosthe j2re pack is in *Multiverse*02:58
locomortoBUT IT IS INSTALLED BY DEFAULT02:58
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khermansapokryphos, blackdown is not in universe02:58
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thoreauputiclocomorto: cu the shouting please02:58
thoreauputic*cut out02:58
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apokryphoskhermans: I never said it was02:58
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thoreauputicgij = free java02:59
_n00blar_This is the java installed: /etc/alternatives/java -> /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java02:59
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_n00blar_thoreauputic, yes..that's the one02:59
thoreauputicright, gcj02:59
khermansgcj is great for compiling java code to machine code02:59
khermansinstead of into IML03:00
gamer7hi03:00
apokryphoslocomorto: errr, that's quite different to j2re (as I said), gcj is just a GNU java compiler03:00
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zburnsgetting an error compiling MPlayer under Breezy - can anybody help moi?03:00
khermanszburns, just install one from the repos instead03:00
_n00blar_sorush20, is it ok to remove it?  gij, that is.03:00
gamer7what folder do i find the installed apps after using wine03:00
apokryphoslocomorto: and read this: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/breezy-install-i386.list -- maybe try a search for j2re; that's right, it's not there.03:00
khermanszburns, sudo aptitude install mplayer-386 i assume03:00
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zburnskhermans, didn't see it in a repo and aptitude didn't find anything either.03:02
khermanszburns, do you have universe and multiverse03:02
apokryphoszburns: you have to enable the Multiverse repository03:02
_n00blar_hah, gij4.0 is required for openoffice 2.0 !!03:02
zburnskhermans, ah, let me check multiverse03:02
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apokryphoszburns: add "multiverse" to any line that has "universe", then sudo apt-get update && sudo aptitude install mplayer-38603:03
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khermansapokryphos, i think the preferred apt manager is aptitude now03:03
DansFloyddoes anyone know how to setup myth TV? ive got it installed useing synaptic... now i need to set it up03:03
apokryphoskhermans: it's a matter of preference for many things, but yes, I use it a lot.03:04
khermansaptitude seems to be a better replacement for apt-get03:04
_n00blar_DansFloyd, mythtv.org has detailed info on that03:04
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khermansit was just funny because you used both in your command sequence there03:04
johndarkhorsekhermans: whatever floats your boat. synaptic/kynaptic is a gui frontend, aptitude a console one03:04
zburnskhermans, that was it, thanks!03:04
apokryphoskhermans: update comes more naturally with apt-get :). Not that there's any reason an aptitude update is any different..03:05
khermanszburns, np03:05
khermansone nice thing about aptitude is that it offers better searching i think03:05
apokryphoskhermans: apt-get can be annoying sometimes (not telling you about some excellent other packs), as can aptitude (installing a zillion language packs for you).03:05
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apokryphoskhermans: how so? apt-cache search works well.03:06
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khermansapokryphos, for instance apt-cache will return mane packages that dont have your search term03:06
khermansbut aptitude wont03:06
jk-khermans: it searches the name, description and summary.03:07
cafuego_khermans: They *do* have the term, just in the extended destription field, that's not shown.03:07
apokryphoskhermans: it uses the description and apt-cache show info, yes. You can always just use a pipe w/ith it (I do)03:07
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khermanscafuego, right, but that can get really confusing when you have some major lib03:07
_n00blar_So I guess there's no way to remove Gij so I can tell limewire to use java 1.5 instead of the default?03:07
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jk-Gij ?03:08
_n00blar_gij the free java that comes with breezy03:08
apokryphosjk-: a gnu java compiler03:08
jk-ah.03:08
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cafuego_khermans: I'm sure you can change the baviour in some way, if it bugs you.03:09
cafuego_behaviour too03:09
test34so there should be no problems upgrading from hoary to breezy ?03:09
cafuego_test34: Not after october 13, no.03:09
khermanscafuego, its all about the default settings -- and ease of use03:09
test34cafuego, ok03:09
jk-test34: did it last week, all worked fine.03:09
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apokryphostest34: breezy doesn't have official stable status yet03:09
khermanscafuego, n00bs can make debian do everything ubuntu does -- but Ubuntu does it out of the box03:09
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test34apokryphos, It works pretty good with a clean install but I was wondering about upgrades..03:10
khermanshehe03:10
Bad_Magiccan anyone help me get the firefox mplayer plugin working? it just freezes at 99% cached and playing things thru mplayer (not the plugin) doesnt work either03:10
jojomonkeyanyone know why muine crashes/freezes in ubuntu if esd is not being used ?03:10
khermanscafuego, have you ever installed Debian yourself ?03:10
apokryphostest34: stable -> stable apt upgrade is fully supported, yes03:10
cafuego_test34: it *should* work, but if something goes wrong, you'll probably get more sarcasm then help ;-)03:11
khermansthere is a major difference in necessary knowledge level03:11
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cafuego_khermans: I've used Linux in nearly all flavours since 1994.03:11
apokryphoscafuego_: it's more help these days, really!03:11
test34ok thanks cafuego and apokryphos03:11
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astartothhi there.03:11
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cafuego_apokryphos: I can't speak for others ;-)03:11
khermanscafuego, well i dont think many people in this channel could stomach a default Debian install and setup on a new leptop03:11
astartothhow can i put those neat [ ok ]  status on every service during boot on a sarge ? any ideas?03:12
Absenthdoes anyone have a link to a Sharing linux resources via samba for idiots guide?03:12
cafuego_khermans: Yes, but then, on the #debian channel I've learned that is sually due to them not reading a SINGLE screen with info during the install. making an install accessible for newbies is a different issue to streamlining it for lazy bastards.03:13
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cafuego_astartoth: Wrong channel, try #debian03:13
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astartoththey told me to ask you guys03:14
khermanscafuego, how about a grandmother who doesnt care how the computer works, just that "it works"03:14
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khermansyou probably dont care about every thing your car does, just that it gets you from home to work03:14
johndarkhorseAbsenth: sharing with windows or another *nix box?03:14
Absenthjohndarkhorse, currently I'd like to share to a windows computer.03:14
Absenthjohndarkhorse, the printer is local on the linux computer.03:15
cafuego_khermans: They wouldn't install it themselves, but buy a pre-install. Same thing she would now, with a Dell or Mac.03:15
newbie99good evening03:15
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johndarkhorseAbsenth: barring anyone answering in here, uncle google has many links to "samba howto"03:15
test34when you stop remote desktop the app (System - Preferences - Remote Desktop) by unchecking "Allow users to view your desktop" you get an error ? is that a bug03:15
dabaR_buenas, newbie9903:15
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nail...03:15
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Seveastest34, that is a bug03:15
Absenthjohndarkhorse, true.  Unfortunatly a great number of them go back to when samba sucked bad, and another great number of them are not idiot friendly :)03:16
newbie99could someone direct me to some material that explains how to install software inside of linux03:16
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khermanscafuego, and what if she had to reinstall it herself ?  from the OS cd?03:16
test34ok thanks Seveas03:16
Absenthjohndarkhorse, however I appreciate the assistance all the same.03:16
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johndarkhorseAbsenth: have you checked wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation   ?03:16
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KyralSeveas, you are right. Double logging into X is really ugly03:17
Seveaskhermans, grandma would ask her grandson to do that...03:17
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SeveasKyral, yeah it is03:17
test34is ubuntu all python ?03:17
khermanscafuego, im not saying youre wrong, im just saying that computers are about automating borings tasks03:17
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Kyraland it boned my system to the point of having to reboot for some reason03:17
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Seveasbtw: your setup would work, tunneling VNC over NX too, but it is still as slow as vnc (the local vnc connection is the bottleneck)03:17
dabaR_newbie99: do you use ubuntu?03:17
newbie99yes03:18
Seveastest34, ubuntu promotes python03:18
Seveasbut most of it is written in C03:18
dabaR /msg ubotu tell newbie99 about synaptic03:18
Kyralwhat about logging into VNC, logging out of GNOME there, then logging into FreeNX?03:18
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Seveasthat would work, but you might as well log out before leaving :)03:18
test34Seveas, should promote ruby;)03:18
newbie99synaptic???03:18
KyralSeveas: I strive to make it look like I have an incredible uptime :D03:19
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dabaRnewbie99: did you get messages from ubotu? if so, read the linked documents03:19
Seveaslogging out does not ruin your uptime ;(03:19
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Seveas;)03:19
newbie99no03:19
Seveas 03:19:37 up 1 day,  5:37,  3 users,  load average: 0.08, 0.14, 0.1703:19
Kyralfrom an IM point of view it does :P03:19
dabaRnewbie99: what program are you using?03:19
newbie99irc03:19
newbie99x chat03:19
dabaRSeveas: you use xchat?03:20
Seveasyes03:20
dabaRwhy is he not getting ubotu messages?03:20
test34I can easily get 2 weeks uptime in windows now, wow..;)03:20
dabaRSeveas: ^03:20
Seveasbecause he does not look good enough...03:20
KyralI could go for massive uptime03:20
Kyralbut I like to tweak03:20
SeveasI like keeping my kernel up-to-date more than massive uptime...03:21
dabaRok. newbie99 there are tabs along the top, I think, or the bottom, it should say ubotu, click on it03:21
Kyralso I'm always going back into the BIOS to see if there is anyway to juice an extra bit of speed outta my system :P03:21
newbie99i see now03:21
dabaRnewbie99: good, read the linked docs. that is all you need to know about installing, and the ask the bot is useful.03:21
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dabaRnewbie99: btw, installing on linux is dependent on the gnu/linux distro you use, debian, and derivatives, like ubuntu, use the apt system. Synaptic is a gui for the apt system.03:22
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durtanyone know how to graph a differential equation in gnuplot?03:24
paco_hey, how do I change the default OS that grub loads?03:24
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Seveaspaco_, by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst03:24
Bad_MagicAnyone help me get mplayer working? it freezes everytime i try to open a video03:24
dabaRpaco_: the gtrub config file tells you that, that is the file^03:24
newbie99dabar thank you03:24
SeveasBad_Magic, set ao=esd in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf03:24
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paco_thanks!03:25
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dabaRor if the file dont tell you, read the referenced online manual pages, known as manpages. the ones on the top of the dile.03:26
dabaRpaco_: ^03:26
djm62When my laptop isn't plugged in and I close the lid, I want it to sleep: can somebody guide me as to what to modify in /etc/acpi/ to make this happen?03:26
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Seveasdjm62, /etc/acpi/lid.sh is a start03:26
paco_thanks guys. gonna test this out. ttyl03:26
Bad_Magicseveas: no dice03:27
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djm62Seveas: yeah, I modified that in a way that I thought was right, but it now sleeps if I close the lid, then open it again, and I'm not sure what I'm missing03:27
ksmurfCan anyone tell me how I can repair my battery moniter in breezy?03:28
Seveasdjm62, then you put it at the wrong part :)03:28
locomortoksmurf: whats wrong with it?03:28
dabaRheh, the menu.lst file says: "Pretty colours"03:28
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sorush20Seveas: can you still ban.03:29
Xenguyhello - I installed Ubuntu on an old lap-top this weekend, and everything went nicely except for these *dreadful* fonts that appear everywhere now (menus, editors, you name it).  Also the screen resolution is 800X600, and AFAIK the windows installation was able to do better than that.  Can anyone suggest how I can improve the font appearance (and secondly, if possible, the screen resolution) ?03:29
Seveassorush20, ?03:29
hybridsave me! someone talk me out of putting gento on my other computer03:29
sorush20Seveas: I don't see you as an Op03:30
dabaRhybrid: are you the hybrid_goth?03:30
ksmurfloco... it's not working.  No matter what the battery doesn't show it's charge and it always says I'm plugged in03:30
jtan325anyone here use amarok without kde?03:30
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dabaRsorush20: he gets ops when he needs it.03:30
Seveas:)03:30
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Seveashybrid, do you like watching gcc output fly by?03:30
dabaRoh, I hate that.03:30
sorush20dabaR are you and op too..03:30
dabaRno.03:31
dabaRthanks for asking.03:31
jk-hybrid: http://funroll-loops.org/03:31
Seveassorush20, /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list03:31
hybriddabaR: yes03:31
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hybridSeveas: depends lol03:31
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ksmurfloco... any idEAS?03:31
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DaaJeHHello03:32
dabaRhybrid_goth: well, then, what can I tell you...I definitely think you should try it.03:32
djm62damn, there isn't a right part03:32
hybrid_gothi wanna try portage03:32
dabaRhybrid_goth: if you like it better, all the better for you. And you are sure to learn something new, which is good.03:33
BlueEagleksmurf: Have you checked to see if there's a but-report on that issue already?03:33
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hybrid_gothdabaR: true03:33
BlueEaglebug-report03:33
ksmurfsudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-lame03:33
silvertonhow do I find out what groups a user belongs to?03:33
DaaJeHI have a question!03:33
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thoreauputic8)03:33
sorush20This is to all the regular people on Ubuntu chan, A lot of the question here are about getting a computer to be a multimedia machine just like windows, Is there a project out there at searches your config and sets up your computer for you, eg, install Java, flash plugin, mplayer, xmms, acroread, xine, printer scanner,03:33
Seveassilverton, groups username_here03:34
ksmurfBlueEagle   I would if I knew where.... I saw something in the forums but the dates were old03:34
snausageshey guys, how can i let file roller spread my data into zip archives that are 9mb each?03:34
Bad_Magicsorush20: www.ubuntuguide.org03:34
silvertonSeveas, thanks03:34
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Bad_Magichas a walkthrough03:34
dabaRsorush20: search the forums, there is. I cant remember a keyword for you, like, easy, quick install, or something.03:34
Bad_Magicfor the codec installs03:34
Bad_Magicand such03:34
Seveassorush20, there is ongoing effort into making ubuntu rock03:34
botbuilderat least windows has decent installation stuff03:35
Seveasjava and evince (pdf reader) are there to stay on breezy03:35
locomortosorush20: EasyUbuntu03:35
DaaJeHWhen you minimize the window,it disapears03:35
Seveasbotbuilder, rofl03:35
thoreauputicbotbuilder: bah03:35
DaaJeHHow do you get it back?03:35
Seveaswindows installers are crap03:35
dabaRsorush20: locomorto's keyword is what I was thinking of.03:35
BlueEagleksmurf: Then file one for breezy with your hardware. These features should be detected and work out of the box, and if it doesn't you should file a bug report. Especially since you're using preview softare.03:35
botbuilderseveas - well, im talking about the os install03:35
thoreauputicbotbuilder: you are kidding right? apt/synaptic kicks windows butt03:35
BlueEaglesoftware*03:35
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botbuilderanyway, I03:35
botbuilder've got probs with xwindows03:35
Seveasbotbuilder, :|03:35
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dabaRDaaJeH: are you using gnome? meaning, did you install ubuntu, or kubuntu?03:36
Seveasthe windows installer is crap too :)03:36
botbuilderfirst off 'Console font generation' or somesuch fails03:36
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thoreauputicbotbuilder: and the OS install is easier, too03:36
botbuilderwhich seems fine cuz console works03:36
ksmurfBot ... they do not.  Linux supports more types of hardware than Windoze.......  It's the vendors that provide the drivers that make windows even work03:36
BlueEaglesorush20: There is one but it is currently not working as w32codecs has mysteriously disappeard from the hoary-extras repository.03:36
Plazmahi all, i was working fine on my airport clamshell ibook and then all of a sudden i have no network, airport card is recognized, but now it wont let me ping or go anywhere03:36
botbuilderI get 'failed to start X server'03:36
botbuilderin a dialog box03:36
BlueEaglesorush20: I even think it's in the wiki or in ubuntuguide (last one is unofficial)03:36
DaaJeHdabar:I'm using ubuntu03:36
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botbuilderand the screen is messed up with a ton of random charachters03:36
botbuildernever had problems with windows.03:37
dabaRbotbuilder: please refrain from the enter a little. everything is scrolling off my screen.03:37
wastrelhave they unsuckified the save file dialogs in the new gnome?03:37
botbuilderevery linux distro ive tred has failed.03:37
botbuilderoh. sorry.03:37
ksmurfBlueEagle... i wasn't complaining bout the preview.  I know things are still being fixed..... I've never filed a bug report bug I'll try03:37
dabaRbotbuilder: graphics card?03:37
thoreauputicbotbuilder: and you blame that on linux? Prize for logical thinking...03:37
BlueEagleksmurf: Thanks. :)03:37
botbuilderlol03:37
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BlueEagleksmurf: Only if people point out errors will they be fixed you know. :)03:38
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botbuilderwell, it does install ok03:38
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botbuilderI can do stuff inside the console03:38
cycomawright! somone's head is going to roll! GAIM thinks 'Ubuntu' is a spelling mistake!!03:38
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dabaRDaaJeH: do you have a window open now? do you have a bar on the bottom of the screen? does it show the open window in a little rectangle?03:38
ksmurfI know ..... I'll try to word it right03:38
botbuilderstartup vim lol03:38
thoreauputiccycom: hahah03:38
BlueEaglesorush20: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats#head-0fe260de2044dc5389a0314a55a72f59dd67f58603:38
dabaRbotbuilder: vim is no laughing matter:) what graphs card?03:38
botbuilderradeon X70003:38
dabaRbotbuilder: ask ubotu about ati03:39
botbuilderthe newness could be a prob03:39
BlueEaglesorush20: just need to be fixed so it doesn't err out on not finding w32codecs.03:39
ksmurfI'll use the bug report tool... Is that ok Blue Eagle?03:39
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BlueEagleksmurf: That should be "the right way"(tm) to file a bug report.03:39
ksmurfon a funny note.... Am I a geek if I bring my laptop to bed with me?03:39
sorush20BlueEagle: thanks..03:40
dabaRksmurf: no.03:40
dabaRor yes, define geek.03:40
silvertonwow, guild wars looks fscked up in cedega >.>03:40
DaaJeHdabar: I do have 2 windows open, and I do have a bar on the buttom,but it doesn't show a little rectagle03:40
thoreauputicksmurf: no, a pervert ;-)03:40
pc22how can i have a local linux network neighborhood?03:40
botbuilderuboto, ati03:40
DaaJeHThere is in the corner a Trash thing03:40
botbuilderuboto ati03:41
thoreauputic!ati03:41
ubotu[ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx03:41
dabaRDaaJeH: right click on the bar, a.k.a gnome-panel. add to panel. add window list03:41
ksmurfmy wife says she's 8 moths prego so I might as well.....03:41
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Agrajaghis name is ubotu, why don't you just use tab completion?03:41
dabaRbotbuilder: his name is ubotu.03:41
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botbuildereh03:41
botbuildernever got in the habit03:41
silverton!nvidia03:42
ubotuwell, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia03:42
ssdd65will a binary built for Linspire 5.0 (Debian k2.6.10), gcc/g++ 3.3.5 run on ubuntu?03:42
botbuilderusually i type the first 4 letters or so of someones name and leave it at that03:42
thoreauputicbotbuilder: now is a good time to start :)03:42
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botbuilderok, thoreauputic03:42
sorush20BlueEagle: I think it would be fantastic.. if the features were added at first boot after an internet connection is detected.. I'm assuming there are rules against it distribution on the UbuntuCD03:42
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thoreauputicbotbuilder: aha! i actually saw that you were addressing me!03:42
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thoreauputic*grin*03:42
botbuilder;)03:42
DaaJeHdabar: Thank you very much03:42
DaaJeHI got it now03:43
dabaRDaaJeH: worked? wanna know another way to switch b/w windows?03:43
sorush20*grin*03:43
ksmurfis there a way to autheticate the extra repo?03:43
DaaJeHYes dabar03:43
thoreauputicbotbuilder: in a busy channel unless you tab-complete, people will miss what you say03:43
BlueEagle"Well, this is a great development for Vorbis hardware support. From January 2006 onwards all Golf, Golf Plus and Touran models will offer an USB port, which support USB sticks with music. Supported formats include MP3, WAV, WMA and Ogg Vorbis."  <= This has to be "a good thing"(tm), don't you think?03:43
ssdd65will a binary built for Linspire 5.0 (Debian k2.6.10), gcc/g++ 3.3.5 run on ubuntu?03:43
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sorush20it could be less  easier if someone developed threaded IRC03:44
dabaRalt+tab, I use that all the time. Also, check out System>Prefs>Windows(or the like) find default behavior for double clicking the title bar, and change to roll up, then save out of that window thing, and double click on a windows title bar.03:44
sybaritenanyone know how to get this character: "|"  on a Macintosh?03:44
dabaRDaaJeH: ^03:44
ksmurfsudo apt-get install w32codecs03:44
dabaRsybariten: what mac?03:44
ksmurfoops03:44
Plazmahi all, i was working fine on my airport clamshell ibook and then all of a sudden i have no network, airport card is recognized, but now it wont let me ping or go anywhere03:44
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sybaritena.k.a. the biggest marketing plot ever conceived for a lame ass piece of shite machine03:44
sybaritenits an iMac DV03:44
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BlueEaglesorush20: Well, these are not open standards and thus they are depreciated as long as there are open standards of equal or better quality. Ogg Vorbis is a very good replacement for mp3.03:45
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DaaJeHCoOl03:45
DaaJeHThank you very much03:45
dabaR$2003:45
dabaRhah03:45
ssdd65will a binary built for Linspire 5.0 (Debian k2.6.10), gcc/g++ 3.3.5 run on ubuntu?03:45
DaaJeHlol03:45
dabaRssdd65: why are you trying to use that?03:45
BlueEaglessdd65: Which binary?03:46
sorush20quit03:46
ssdd65because i really dont want to complie the program from sorce03:46
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BlueEaglessdd65: which program?03:46
ssdd65its a binary for NVU03:46
dabaRsybariten: are you sure your kybd does not just show you what to press? try the fn key...03:46
johndarkhorse!tell ssdd65 about nvu03:46
BlueEaglejohndarkhorse: Dang, you beat me to it. :p03:47
ssdd65NVU03:47
dabaR| is a common POSIX thing, and mac osX is POSIX compliant, I believe.03:47
ssdd65html editor03:47
sybaritendabaR: uh?  ...  and there are no Fn keys on desktop machines03:47
BlueEaglessdd65: read what ubotu told you.03:47
johndarkhorsesybariten: use shift+\03:47
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ssdd65i did...03:47
johndarkhorsesybariten: on a us keyboard anyway03:47
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johndarkhorsessdd65: using pkgs made for other distros can cause ubuntu to fail03:48
dabaRBlueEagle: sent him the nvu factoid?03:48
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ssdd65o03:48
BlueEagledabar: johndarkhorse did.03:48
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dabaRheh, its up there.03:48
ssdd65so should i try a compile?03:48
WebLOCHHello all03:48
Inf3ctedfxHi, ppl, what is the commando to install debian packges? is:  dkpg?03:48
WebLOCHHi again dabaR03:48
apokryphosdpkg -i <package>03:48
dabaRssdd65: you should read the referenced docs.03:48
sybaritenand i would never run os X, at least running *nix makes me not throw this machine out the balcony and onto the street ...03:48
dabaRhey, WebLOCH .03:48
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WebLOCHI am back with even more questions03:48
WebLOCHThis time simpler I hope :P03:49
sybaritenjohndarkhorse: come to think of it ... i dont even know how to make a \03:49
Inf3ctedfxthx apokryphos03:49
get_VoIP_hereUhhh - you again03:49
sybaritenits not written on the kb03:49
get_VoIP_here(just kidding03:49
dabaRInf3ctedfx: why are you installing a .deb instead of through synaptic/aptitude?03:49
johndarkhorsessdd65: the instructions are quite easy to follow from the factoid03:49
ssdd65unless there is a ubuntu package out there for it...?03:49
ssdd65ok03:49
johndarkhorsesybariten: look under the "delete" key03:49
Inf3ctedfxwell, dabaR , I'm installing Skype03:49
dabaRok, valid reason.03:50
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dabaRInf3ctedfx: read the wiki page on installing? ask ubotu about skype03:50
get_VoIP_hereInf3ctedfx: Ahhhh!!! Skype is eeeeeeeeeeeeeevil....03:50
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WebLOCHDoes anyone know of a way to test to see if a repository has been added correctly?03:50
jk-heh03:50
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jk-WebLOCH: how do you mean added?03:51
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Inf3ctedfxget_VoIP_here: what about Gizmo Project?03:51
apokryphosWebLOCH: apt-get update would fail if the syntax in the file was incorrect03:51
dabaRWebLOCH: try installing something from it. if it reloads when you update the package list, its good03:51
BlueEaglewebloch: if you run sudo apt-get update and don't get any error messages it has been added correctly.03:51
ssdd65nice... it says the one for linspire will work....03:51
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BlueEaglewebloch: if you're looking for w32codecs it's mysteriously disappeared from hoary-extras.03:51
dabaRBlueEagle: know about aptitude?03:51
WebLOCHWell I have added the Hoary Extras repository, however the JDK and JRE do not show up03:51
sambagirlwill  MAMBO RUN under ubuntu?03:51
Inf3ctedfx!skype03:51
ubotu[skype]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SkypeHowto/, or deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free03:51
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SeveasWebLOCH, run apt-get update. If it errors out there's an error :)03:51
sybaritenjohndarkhorse: well thats maybe the best part ... the machine has no "delete" key03:51
johndarkhorseBlueEagle: send them to the right place now03:51
ksmurf!w32codecs03:51
ubotuw32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repository. AMD64? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 Legal issues: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats03:51
jk-WebLOCH: or just 'apt-cache show <package that should be in repo>'03:51
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WebLOCHNo errors, just not finding somethingf I expected03:51
BlueEagledabar: No, I haven't read up on it yet. Do you want to tell me about it?03:52
apokryphosWebLOCH: they were taken out of there, that's why. :)03:52
WebLOCHhaha03:52
BlueEagleapokryphos: I use TAB to autocomplete nicks.03:52
WebLOCHSomeone should update the wiki03:52
Seveasjk-, that only works after an apt-get update ;)03:52
jk-that'll tell you about all the versions of <package> that are available03:52
ssdd65thanks03:52
jk-Seveas: yep :)03:52
SeveasWebLOCH, what are you looking for?03:52
WebLOCHJDK and JRE03:52
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WebLOCHJDK more importantly03:52
apokryphosWebLOCH: they're no longer there; legal reasons.03:52
dabaRBlueEagle: sure, it uses apt-get. if you were to install a package with 5 deps, and then decide you dont want the package any more, and remove it using aptitude, aptitude will remove the dependencies it installed along with it, thus kkeeoping your system cleaner.03:53
sybariteni mean, after all ... why would one need a delete key when theres a backspace key??  Why would one need two or more mouse buttons, when you can have just one?   Why would you need such things as 'choices' when our big american computer company can fix it all for you instead ?03:53
BlueEagleapokryphos: -irssi- completion_nicks_lowercase = ON03:53
apokryphosBlue-Box: ah :)03:53
johndarkhorsesybariten: you on a extended mac kb?03:53
WebLOCHI thought Sun had finally agreed to allow the JRE to be licenced for install with distributions?03:53
BlueEagleapokryphos: ...and speaking of auto completing nicks...03:53
WebLOCHDamnit!03:53
f_newton!hoary extras03:53
ubotuf_newton: Are you smoking crack?03:53
SeveasWebLOCH, nope03:53
dabaRjk-: same thing for you with apt-get. aptitude search works.03:53
WebLOCHEvil03:53
f_newton!extras03:53
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, extras is For extra repositories, check out http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96903:53
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WebLOCHIs there another easy way of installing ?03:53
sybaritenread my lips kids - Macintosh, and all thats apple, are made for computer IDIOTS by money-greedy corporate IDIOTS03:53
apokryphosBlueEagle: not that I care about hte output-method obviously, just thought you may not know :).03:53
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Seveassybariten, language..03:54
sybaritenjohndarkhorse: what does extended mean in this case ?03:54
apokryphosWebLOCH: nope03:54
sybaritenSeveas: yeah yeah yeah ...03:54
BlueEagleseveas: "macintosh" is considered profanity now? o.O03:54
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sybaritenin my vocabulary, it soon is03:54
apokryphosBlueEagle: you didn't complete that ... ;-)03:54
fysaI'm installing Hoary so I can immediatelye upgrade to Breezy (Breezy install froze at detecting partitions) -- should I reboot into Breezy as soon as it's finished?03:54
Seveaslol BlueEagle :)03:54
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BlueEagleapokryphos: I didn't complete what?03:55
Seveasanyhow 4AM her03:55
fysaand just boot off of the CD?03:55
dabaRfysa: it should start breezy as soon as you are finished.03:55
Seveashere*03:55
herbalchildi need some help:(, i cant sudo..i give it the password and it errors...i can su with the same password but sudo doesent work, and if i load an application that asks for root password it errors after i give it that pass03:55
dabaRlater.03:55
fossahi. i have a dell latitude d610, and the ubuntu linux won't recognize my wireless network. it's WPA security, and the wireless card is an intel.03:55
Seveasmv /proc/self /dev/bed03:55
Seveassleep03:55
dabaRlater.03:55
apokryphosBlueEagle: "and speaking of auto completing nicks..." unless that's not mean to be a run-on to another sentence. :)03:55
WebLOCHfossa have you installed the ndiswrapper module?03:55
apokryphoss/mean/meant03:55
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fossano (unless it is installed as part of the base)03:55
fysadabaR: I have Hoary and Breezy .ISO burned -- as soon as Hoary is done installing, should I reboot and boot off the Breezy CD?  Will it detect Hoary and upgrade automagically?  Or will I need to use synaptic and do it that way?03:55
BlueEagleapokryphos: I was refering to: 03:52 < apokryphos> Blue-Box: ah :)03:56
djm62ping03:56
WebLOCHfossa I will get you a link for the guide03:56
fossaok03:56
WebLOCHYou have to compile the ndiswrapper and load it as a module03:56
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djm62editing lid.sh was a red herring03:56
herbalchildSeveas do you know how i can fix this pasword issue?03:56
WebLOCHyou will also need the WinXP driver for your card03:56
apokryphosBlueEagle: hah, indeed. I'm missing the tab-autocomplete-last-nick to tell you the truth (the only feature I'm missing since left konversation).03:56
sambagirlwill  MAMBO RUN under ubuntu?03:56
johndarkhorsesybariten: the key right above your "enter" key (on the far right) is the | key03:56
dabaRherbalchild: I do. you can su?03:56
herbalchildyes03:57
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herbalchildi can su but no sudo03:57
dabaRso you have a root account enabled?03:57
silvertonWhen is the kernel source for 2.6.12 going to be released?03:57
djm62the real solution was mv lid.sh lid.sh.bak&& ln -s sleep.sh lid.sh03:57
WebLOCHfossa : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto03:57
silvertoner, put in a repository03:57
WebLOCHGo on from there03:57
gamer7how can i run winetools - PLZ help03:57
concept10sambagirl: yes03:57
dabaRsambagirl: what is MAMBO? heh03:57
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sambagirlthank you concept03:57
fossaif i get on the internet via the ethernet port, is there a way i can update all this stuff with synaptic?03:57
herbalchildyea i can su, but no sudo03:57
sambagirlwhat is mambo? :)03:57
dabaRherbalchild: sudo uses your password, not the root one, try hat one.03:58
BlueEagleherbalchild: Are you in the admin or adm group?03:58
sambagirli dont understand what it is03:58
holycowcontent managemetn system03:58
silvertonum...nevermind03:58
djm62the content engine?03:58
concept10sambagirl: why ask if it will run if you dont know what it is?03:58
silvertonforgot, it's linux-source   not kernel-source03:58
holycowthat just went through a fork03:58
holycowand get this, they named the fork 'joomla'03:58
sambagirli am on the website looking at it and i can download it if i want to so i was just curious03:58
holycow>_<03:58
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herbalchildsays in not the suedoers file incident will be reported03:58
herbalchild*im03:58
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WebLOCHfossa - what stuff do you want to update?03:59
get_VoIP_hereInf3ctedfx: I guess it depends if you are just using it for PC>PC or PC>Phone03:59
get_VoIP_herelol03:59
dabaRherbalchild: are you using a hoary install?03:59
djm62sambagirl: it isn't in my package lists, but you can download and install it manually most likely03:59
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herbalchildyea03:59
get_VoIP_hereInf3ctedfx: Gizmo actually looks pretty cool. I havent seen it before03:59
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get_VoIP_hereInf3ctedfx: take a look at x-lite03:59
fossathis ndis stuff03:59
BlueEaglesambagirl: If you're interested in running Linux inside Mambo, you can download the kernel patch here. ftp://ftp.linuxppc64.org/pub/people/cyeoh/mambo-linux-patches/03:59
Inf3ctedfxx-lite03:59
Inf3ctedfxok03:59
sambagirlthank you03:59
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Inf3ctedfxcuz I already have VoIP03:59
dabaRherbalchild: su, then adduser $username(your user name, dunno how much you kknow...) admin03:59
BlueEaglesambagirl: It's the first thing that pops up when you google for: mambo linux03:59
dabaRadduser herbalchild admin03:59
benkong2can I install jdk 5.0 in breezy in /opt for use with eclipse and netbeans? on breezy amd-k804:00
cevizoglurobotgeek: are you there?04:00
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Inf3ctedfxbut I've been using Gizmo.. and is pretty good04:00
herbalchildkk04:00
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concept10BlueEagle: Linux inside mambo? wrong link...04:00
bz0bhey all04:00
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WebLOCHget_VoIP_here,  Because apt-get is clearly superior04:00
dabaRyo bz0b04:00
djm62BlueEagle: I'm pretty sure that's not the one04:00
freebase`where can i locate the apt-get server list?04:00
sambagirlis only 107kb04:00
sambagirlwow04:00
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WebLOCH/etc/apt/sources.list04:00
benkong2apt-get can install the jdk?04:00
locomortofreebase: /etc/apt/sources.list04:00
herbalchild"the group "admin" doesent exist"04:00
concept10sambagirl: Thanks not the Mambo CMS04:01
bz0bhey guys, I just setup my own SIP server, and even got it working with pin numbers, and even have it setup to a phone number :-)04:01
freebase`WebLOCH, : thanks04:01
apokryphosbenkong2: currently, for hoary, no.04:01
WebLOCHNo problem04:01
sambagirlwhat means CMS?04:01
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WebLOCHContent Management System usually04:01
concept10sambagirl: Content Management System04:01
sambagirli used to know linux04:01
get_VoIP_hereWebLOCH: I dont see how one or the other is superior, but what good does it do if its not in a repo?04:01
pudlandhi all04:01
BlueEagledjm62: Well, I don't know what mambo is either, I just gave her the first thing google spat out. Also since she doesn't know what mambo does she probably won't know if it works or not. :)04:01
sambagirl1.004:01
cevizogluherbalchild: the default admin group on ubuntu is called "root"04:01
benkong2apokryphos; i'm on breezy04:01
fossathanks for the help. i'm going to go read all this stuff now.04:01
sambagirl and Sco unix and xenix04:01
freebase`locomorto, thanks to you too =)04:01
locomortoMambo pretty nice04:01
dabaRherbalchild: did you install hoary, or upgrade from warty?04:01
sambagirlahh ok04:01
locomortoMambo's*04:01
sambagirli explore it04:01
apokryphosbenkong2: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl04:01
dabaRherbalchild: please prepend your message to me with my nick, so I can see it.04:02
WebLOCHget_VoIP_here,  I understand what you are saying, but I feel that apt-get is much better than separate binaries04:02
BlueEaglesambagirl: Did you want the CMS called mambo?04:02
benkong2apokryphos; thanks04:02
herbalchilddabaR, fresh install04:02
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concept10I still dont understand why some one wants to download and install some app they dont know about04:02
daakuanyone using a powerbook and the appletouch trackpad driver? i cant get it to work as a synaptics device (works as normal mouse)04:02
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sambagirlahh it is a PHP mysql content management system04:02
herbalchilddabaR, ive installed plenty of times in the past with no problems04:02
sambagirlyes04:02
dabaRherbalchild: have gnome?04:02
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herbalchilddabaR, yea im on gnome now04:02
concept10sambagirl: is that what you want?04:02
pudlandany good sites for promgramming04:02
sambagirli think so04:02
sambagirlmamboserver04:03
sambagirlsomething like that04:03
sambagirli am looking at it on another thingy04:03
jk-daaku: yep, i'm using appletouch04:03
bz0bjk-, what is appletouch?04:03
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concept10sambagirl: are you trying to create a website?04:03
sambagirlwillubuntu run on amiga?04:03
sambagirlsure all the time concept04:03
jk-bz0b: driver for touchpad on powerbooks > Jan 200504:03
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ksmurfhave the w32 codec been removed from the extra repo.... I can't find them04:03
bz0bjk-, ahh04:04
concept10I smell trollllll04:04
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ShadowpillarColonelKernel: who me?04:04
Shadowpillarer04:04
sambagirli am trying to learn something new04:04
daakujk-: did you do anything special to get it working as a synaptics device? i compiled it, put it in /lib/modules... and loaded the module. so my trackpad works, but the synaptics driver doesnt seem to like it04:04
Shadowpillarconcept10: who me?04:04
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apokryphosksmurf: yes04:04
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spazzhow do i install a .iso file?04:04
Shadowpillaris it too late to request a package be added to ubuntu?04:04
djm62sambagirl: http://packages.debian.org/experimental/web/mambo04:04
ksmurfThey have been removed...K thanks04:04
jk-daaku: I'm not using the synaptics driver at all.04:04
locomortoksmurf: you can try marillat though (some people like to say it fucks up you comp04:04
WebLOCHspazz - generally you do not install ISO files04:04
jk-you shouldn't need it.04:04
sambagirlthank you dj04:04
locomortospazz: you burn it to a cd04:04
johndarkhorsespazz: you dont. you burn it with a cdburning tool04:05
Shadowpillarmarillat is out of sync with ubuntu now04:05
spazzduh ><04:05
ksmurflocom.... k thanks04:05
spazzthanks04:05
djm62sambagirl: and if you have debian on amiga already, there's no reason not to run mambo on it.  ubuntu sticks to more...extant platforms ;)04:05
daakujk-: ah. not using the edge scrolling or double tap features?04:05
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spazzso what should i use to burn it?04:05
Shadowpillarwhat is mambo?04:05
jk-daaku: oh, nope.04:05
spazzdoes ubuntu come with one?04:05
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sambagirli love amiga operating system04:05
sambagirli not polute it with anything04:05
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joseduenas_hello04:06
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herbalchild anyone have any ideas for me? i cab su but i cannot sudo04:06
WebLOCHyou sound vaguely unhinged04:06
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Inf3ctedfxdabaR: How can I remove a package that I just install, from terminal?04:06
cevizogluherbalchild: is your account in sudoers?04:06
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joseduenas_I need a skype-like but with webcam support, do you know any?04:06
djm62herbalchild: do you have multiple users on your computer?04:06
daakujk-: another question, are you using a US keyboard? (i'm too lazy to make a keymap & xkb)04:06
ShadowpillarI wanna get debian on a 68k machine04:06
WebLOCHInf3ctedfx, you use apt-get remove04:06
xerxas_someone using NetworkMananger ?04:06
dabaRwhat is the command to run the gnome adduser gui?04:06
Inf3ctedfxok04:06
Inf3ctedfxthx WebLOCH04:06
herbalchildsays im not in suedoers file and no im the only user04:06
sambagirlshadow it runs on amiga04:06
dabaRWebLOCH: you use sudo aptitude remove packagename04:06
sambagirl680x004:07
djm62herbalchild: find and edit the sudoers file?04:07
cevizogluherbalchild: you can su to root?04:07
herbalchildyes04:07
durtwhats wrong with console adduser, dabar?04:07
jk-daaku: yep, but with F11 & F12 mapped to button2 & button3 (though i believe ubuntu does this by default)04:07
WebLOCHdabaR i know i wasnt asking04:07
cevizogluherbalchild, su to root, then add yourself in /etc/sudoers04:07
pudland?where can i find the source code for xmms on my pc?04:07
herbalchildkk, gonna give that a shot04:07
alexandroshello is there a way to find out what is running and on what port it is binded?04:07
jk-pudland: apt-get source xmms04:07
dabaRWebLOCH: you gave wrong answer. install and remove everything with aptitude from a terminal, it handles dependencies better,04:07
djm62herbalchild: my entry looks like "djm62   ALL=(ALL) ALL"04:08
jk-alexandros: netstat -apnA inet04:08
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alexandrosjk: thank you04:08
djm62alexandros: netstat is the command04:08
herbalchildhmm04:08
WebLOCHdabaR well I use apt-get because its my preference, he stated that was what he was using so I just replied with that...04:08
pudlandjk-  where would it place the source?04:08
jk-(or 'netstat -apt' or tcp-only, -apu for udp)04:08
BlueEaglesambagirl: To install mambo you need Apache, MySQL and PHP (all availible in ubuntu afaik=04:08
jk-pudland: in the current dir04:09
BlueEagle)04:09
pudlandjk- thanks04:09
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joseduenas_I need a skype-like but with webcam support, do you know any?04:09
silverton!nvidia04:09
ubotuwell, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia04:09
djm62joseduenas_: who do you need to be compatible with?04:09
daakujk-: oh nice. could i get copies of both? if you dont mind..04:09
dabaRWebLOCH: if you tell someone to apt-get install xfce4 for example. And then after a day, they decide to remove it, and do so, they will be left with a lot of xfce4 packages on their system. if they use aptitude, they all packages installed when the xfce4 package was installed will be removed. Hence, if he wants to remove something he just installed, he should have installed it with aptitude, and removed it with it.04:10
djm62joseduenas_: gnomemeeting is compatible with netmeeting, and it looks like they're solving the issues with NAT04:10
jk-daaku: copies of what?04:10
herbalchildin sudoers i added herbalchild ALL=(ALL) ALL under rootALL=(ALL) ALL hopefuly itll work04:10
sambagirlis mysql included in ubuntu?04:10
daakujk-: the keymap and xkb04:10
djm62sambagirl: yes04:10
silvertonis there a forum post on how to install nvidia's official drivers?04:10
sambagirlthanks dj04:11
jk-daaku: ahh, i'm just using the default maps...04:11
joseduenas_djm62, but I need some without problems with NAT04:11
herbalchildgood stuff...it works fine04:11
djm62sambagirl: to find these things, the command would be "apt-cache search mysql" for instance04:11
joseduenas_djm62, not yet04:11
daakujk-: do pageup/pagedown work for you?04:11
pudlandjk- is gedit a compiler? thats what it opens in?04:11
herbalchildty everyone...ive been gone for awhile...great to see the community is still good helpfull people04:11
dabaRherbalchild: it is weird you dont have the admin group, tho, in hoary.04:11
BlueEaglesambagirl: apt-cache search mysql-server yelds amongst others: mysql-server - mysql database server binaries04:11
djm62joseduenas_: who do you need to talk to?04:11
BlueEaglesambagirl: so, yes.04:11
jk-daaku: no, i haven't tried to do any of the fn-key bindings.04:11
alexandrosdj2m62: thank you04:11
daakujk-: i've got the F11,F12 working04:11
joseduenas_djm62, with another person who is also behind NAT04:11
cevizogluherbalchild: make sure there is no "#" at the start of the line, or it won't work04:11
jk-ok then.04:11
herbalchilddabaR, yea it is...ive installed tons of times...never with that issue04:11
daakujk-: ah. ok04:11
djm62joseduenas_: what's wrong with skype?04:12
joseduenas_djm62, I want video04:12
herbalchildebay bought skype04:12
jk-but i have a (kernel) patch to remap the fn-key to right-control.04:12
silvertonhmm...  herbalchild, you have a demonoid account?04:12
herbalchildu dont remember me silverton??04:12
djm62joseduenas_: can either of you get into the DMZ?04:12
jk-but it's a bit of a stop-gap solution :D04:12
herbalchildherbal...and ummmm magog04:12
silvertonherbalchild, I didn't think there were two losers with your nick ;D04:12
herbalchildi had it out with darb like crazu04:12
nomasteryoda|wherbalchild, well then it will be banned by businesses.... ebay url is banned in some locations04:13
BlueEaglesambagirl: you will need to install it with sudo apt-get install mysql-server but that is doable. Also apache and php need to be installed.04:13
herbalchildno im the ONLY herbalchild04:13
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joseduenas_djm62, no, is a student dorm (not access to router)04:13
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BlueEaglesambagirl: Not sure how wellconfigured apache/php is by default, but the documentation is extensive. (php.net for example)04:13
daakujk-: ah. i have some fn patch applied too. guess i'm gonna have to make my own xkb/keymap's04:13
dabaRBlueEagle: use aptitude:)04:13
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joseduenas_djm62, if I could access I know what ports redirectr04:13
silvertonI'm starting to get annoyed with  ubuntu...  prolly gonna run back to debian04:13
BlueEagledabar: Old habits. :)04:14
tritiumsilverton, what's annoying you?04:14
sambagirlok i will play RTCW then Enemy Territory and then True Combat and then watch tv :D04:14
silvertonI can't install the official nvidia drivers04:14
sambagirlthen i will look at documentation04:14
djm62joseduenas_: you might be able to get a more bleeding edge build of gnomemeeting with more support for rendevous/zeroconf/upnp/blah04:14
tritiumsilverton, sure you can04:14
BlueEagledabar: But yes, aptitude would be "the bettery way"(tm)04:14
joseduenas_djm62, yes i know, I'll try to build a cvs version04:14
silvertonit's giving me a bunch of shit about my kernel source not being installed, when I told it where it was, it started to build the nvidia module, then it said it failed to load, and that it was cause the kernel source wasn't there04:14
tritiumubotu, tell silverton about nvidia04:14
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silvertonand I had to smack myself in the forehead for it...04:14
silvertontritium, the official drivers, not what is packaged for ubuntu04:15
_n00blar_What's the command to make .deb package out of an rpm?04:15
BlueEagledabar: "The better way" was already trademarked :(04:15
cafuego_Hmm. I bet having 3 files called '?' in / isn't good.04:15
djm62joseduenas_: other than that it sounds like you're out of luck: roll on IPv604:15
tritiumsilverton, okay, install linux-headers-`uname -r` before you try04:15
alexandroscan someone please help me I am having problem running mldonkey-server when the ui try to connect it says unable to find core04:15
silvertontritium, I did04:15
joseduenas_djm62, in my dreams... hehe04:15
tritiumsilverton, sounds like a problem with the source package, not with ubuntu04:16
dabaR_n00blar_: why are you doing that? where did you get the rpm, and why not install from synaptic?04:16
djm62joseduenas_: you're not in the same NAT-ed network or anything handy like that?04:16
alexandrosbut when I try to run the command it say it is already running04:16
_n00blar_dabaR, I got the new version of Limewire Pro and they only have rpm and zip04:16
dabaR_n00blar_: alien -i package.rpm might break your system04:17
djm62_n00blar_: use the zip...you don't need to install it04:17
joseduenas_djm62, no04:17
dabaRor use the zip yes04:17
_n00blar_djm62, dab, that should do, thanks04:17
djm62_n00blar_: keep it in your home directory, and add a shortcut to the panel to launch it, and forget about it04:17
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BlueEagledjm62: Wouldn't a separat /usr/local partition be "the bettery way"(tm) so that several people can use it?04:18
_n00blar_djm62,  thanks will do04:18
_n00blar_dabaR, thanks for the tip04:18
dabaRyup04:18
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BlueEagledjm62: Did you get that?04:19
djm62BlueEagle: sort of yes, on the other hand, computers are mostly personal, and it's not a lot of disk to waste04:19
dabaRand takes longer, involves sudo, and so on.04:20
djm62BlueEagle: if you have several people using it, the trick is getting them all sharing the same music library ;)04:20
concept10_n00blar_: Limewire is Java-based.  IIRC, you could unzip that download and run the runLime.sh script and it will launch04:20
roxvillelol04:20
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roxvillebut in, say, a classroom, it wouldn't be a bad idea04:20
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BlueEagledjm62: That's why all my music is on mediaserver:library which is mounted as nfs on /media/music04:20
_n00blar_concept10, yeah, I'm going to try my luck and see if it uses java 1.5 instead of the one loaded by default on breeze04:20
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BlueEaglethat's mediaserver:musiclibrary04:21
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djm62BlueEagle: on the same machine, just abstracted?04:21
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BlueEagledjm62: No, got a separate media server in the hallway in a closet.04:21
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apokryphosdabaR: woo, congrats. :)04:21
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nomad1hey can any1 help04:21
BlueEaglenomad1: Not unless you ask a question.04:21
nomad1how do i configure boot loader from within ubuntu04:21
nomad1lol every1 says that lol04:21
pepsi_what program can i use to get a simple serial terminal?04:22
nomad1im using the 5.10 preview04:22
pepsi_minicom or something like that04:22
pepsi_?04:22
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BlueEaglenomad1: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst04:22
_n00blar_Ok, that works...using Limewire from zip and running the script will find the right version of java..1.5 that is!!04:22
BlueEagleor is it menu.1st?04:22
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djm62hmmm, would actually be quite cool to have /home as nfs by default (breaking the "no services by default" rule)04:22
dabaRapokryphos: ya, its pretty cool. I will strip it a little, we will use openbox. a lab with computers that can boot off the CD and network configured with dhcp, a class of Unix newbies, from a unix class, what more can you ask for.04:22
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BlueEagleit's .lst04:22
djm62pepsi_: minicom will do it04:22
apokryphosdabaR: spread the good news =)04:22
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nomad1blue eagle do i do this in the terminal04:23
djm62pepsi_: just get the speed etc set right04:23
BlueEaglenomad1: yes, I don't think ALT+F2 takes sudo too well04:23
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dabaRBlueEagle: console? alt+ctrl+fnum? takes sudo as well as anything else.04:24
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BlueEagleGod damned. I just got a deja-vu of something I dreamt about about two years ago typing just that very same thing...04:24
BlueEagleo.O04:24
nomad1lol i think i hav ot reinstall04:24
apokryphosgksudo when using alt+f204:24
nomad1i dont recall setting a root password04:24
djm62woo, sleeping doesn't even interrupt my IRC session04:24
dabaRnomad1: there is none, it is your password.04:24
BlueEagledabar: ALT+F2 (the default combination for the run-dialog in gnome) does not take sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst04:25
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dabaRBlueEagle: aha!04:25
bipolardoes anyone know what might be causing any 3D app to use almost all the cpu and make the whole system lag w/ xorg's ati driver? glxinfo shows it's configured right.04:25
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ksmurfcould someone pm me the good addy for debian marralet to add to my sources.list file please?04:25
delltonyhi anyone know how to play 3gp files in linux?04:25
nomasteryoda|whiya delltony04:25
dabaRksmurf: see, I could, but why do you want that?04:25
BlueEaglebipolar: It might be due to the fact that ATi made your gfx card </flamebait>04:25
delltonyhey nomasteryoda|w pm me dude04:25
djm62delltony: realplayer will do them, oddly enough04:26
roxvilleksmurf sometimes marillat is just plain down. you have to try later04:26
dabaRksmurf: are you the guy that has that screen tutorial?04:26
delltonyoh it will thats interesting to know04:26
ksmurfdabaR  .... W32codecs04:26
bipolarBlueEagle, I agree I like nvidia's better, but it's a laptop. :P04:26
pc22how do can windows network see my linux pc?04:26
djm62delltony: and helixplayer, presumably, since it's not a Real codec04:26
ksmurfwhich one?04:26
bipolarIt's Xorg that top shows as using all the cpu04:26
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nomasteryoda|w!tell pc22 about samba04:26
dabaRksmurf: google for marillat w32codecs, and downlaod, and sudo dpkg -i package04:26
delltonyso you recommend helixplayer?04:26
dabaRksmurf: are you in the nun?04:26
BlueEaglepc22: by "windows network" do you mean the default "file and printer sharing" system (aka smb)?04:26
ksmurfnun?04:27
pc22yes04:27
BlueEaglepc22: You need to configure samba to share the folders you want to share.04:27
dabaRnm.04:27
nomasteryoda|w!ubotu, samba04:27
ubotusamba is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently04:27
ksmurfno..... Not the gamer04:27
dabaRksomethingelse then04:27
pc22im using dhcp, how is that?04:27
djm62delltony: helixplayer is realplayer without the proprietary bits...I bite the bullet and use realplayer  because I watch the BBC news on the net04:27
dabaR!nun04:27
ubotudabaR: Syntax error in line 104:27
dabaRsorry04:27
nomad1i cant find on that site wat line to edit to set the default os to boot to04:27
BlueEaglepc22: dhcp is unrelated.04:27
nomasteryoda|wpc22, dhcp is only to give IP to your system04:27
anethemahow stable is breezy right now?04:27
BlueEaglepc22: First you need to install samba.04:27
anethemaa month from rel04:27
delltonydjm62, where you find helixplayer?04:27
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cevizogluanethema: depends on your hardware setup04:28
bz0bby anychance, does anyone know if the powerbook has a pcmcia slot?04:28
nomasteryoda|wanethema, i only had 4 updates this weekend... pretty good04:28
nomad1blue eagle04:28
nomad1i cant find on that site wat line to edit to set the default os to boot to04:28
pc22wont it need a static ip?04:28
_n00blar_Any of you guys installed cedega and played some windows game with it?04:28
BlueEaglepc22: sudo apt-get install samba04:28
dabaRbz0b: not afaik04:28
nomasteryoda|wbz0b, what did papa google say?04:28
delltonynm04:28
nomad1i really appreciate it if u could just help on this one04:28
cevizogluanethema: I just upgraded to breezy this weekend, and all my hardware works, including my wireless card04:28
nomad1i was using fedora b4 this04:28
djm62delltony: first result on helixplayer on google04:28
anethemayeah i dont have a wireless card or anything04:28
BlueEaglenomad1: I don't highlight on "blue eagle" just on "blueeagle". Please use that. Also type bluee and press TAB to auto-complete the nickname.04:28
nomad1i used yum not sudo04:28
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anethemanforce3 mobo, ati vid card04:28
dabaRnomad1: look at what ubotu sent you.04:29
anethemanothing fancy04:29
nomad1ok sorry04:29
nomasteryoda|wanethema, should be fine04:29
delltonynah its helix-player on here i was typing it wrong04:29
dabaRdont be sorry.04:29
anethemahm, maybe ill switch hoary to breezy in my sources.list soon04:29
anethema:)04:29
BlueEaglepc22: holla at me when you've got samba installed and we'll take the next step.04:29
vader1102well it is gettiing closer to the official release of Breezy04:29
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nomad1i look up grub but it doesnt give any useful tips04:29
BlueEaglenomad1: hang on.04:29
delltonynomasteryoda|w, you gettin my pm?04:29
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nomad1here are the search results04:30
nomad1   1. ComoGrub04:30
nomad1   2. GrubError18PrzyUruchamianiu04:30
nomad1   3. GrubHowto04:30
nomad1   4. HowToMakeAGRUBBootFloppy04:30
nomad1   5. ItalianGuidaGrub04:30
nomad1   6. forum/installation/grub04:30
nomad1sorry about the dump04:30
nomasteryoda|wdelltony, i opened a dialog box to you04:30
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dabaRnomad1: what are you trying to get done?04:30
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nomad1setting the default os to boot in grub04:30
nomad1i want it to be win xp04:30
reikiack! :)04:30
delltonynomasteryoda|w, aren't you the one that had the v551 phone?04:30
BlueEaglenomad1: in menu.lst read what it sais after ## default num04:31
nomasteryoda|wer, nope04:31
dabaRok, well, do you know how to use a terminal? you likely do since you used linux... nomad104:31
nomasteryoda|wonly had skype04:31
Tony_LHas anyone gotten the mouse wheel button to work in "Cruise Control" mode in Firefox? By "cruise control" I mean you press the wheel button and the circle w/arrows appear. Moving the mouse then scrolls the window. Works in Windows w/IE & Firefox...04:31
enduro...04:31
nomasteryoda|wTony_L, yes04:31
nomad1lol04:31
nomad1i used yum04:31
reikiTony_L: mine works... sec... lemme confirm04:31
nomad1with fedora04:31
Tony_LCan you point me to a HOWTO or anything? I've looked all over...04:31
djm62delltony: in fact, do apt-cache search helix, it might already be in your sources04:31
nomasteryoda|wTony_L, did you change the option in Firefox preferences?04:31
nomad1first time with ubuntu04:31
dabaRnomad1: did you use the terminal?04:31
vader1102Tony_L, yup04:31
BlueEaglenomad1: It's just a matter of counting the number of entries in your grub boot menu and set default 4 to load the 4th entry by default (after the timeout ofcourse)04:31
nomad1## default grub root device04:31
nomad1i believe this is it?04:31
Tony_LNo, I did not -- is there a preference for this?04:32
Tony_LI iwll look...04:32
djm62BlueEagle: grub counts from zero, no?04:32
pepsi_djm62, is there anything besides minicom? i want something less fancy04:32
nomasteryoda|wTony_L, yes04:32
dabaRyou have the file open? nomad1 ?04:32
djm62pepsi_: cat?04:32
nomad1ye04:32
nomasteryoda|wTony_L, middle click and then it works04:32
delltonyif i could only find out where the gain_table.bin file is on my phone i could fix my volume issue :)04:32
djm62pepsi_: what are you trying to do?04:32
pepsi_but then how do i setup the port?04:32
vader1102Tony_L,  it did it by default on all of my Hoary installs04:32
pepsi_i just want to talk to some serial devices that im working on04:32
BlueEaglenomad1: As I said: It's just a matter of counting the number of entries in your grub boot menu and set default 4 to load the 5th entry by default (after the timeout ofcourse)04:32
reikiTony_L, I take that back... mine is no longer working04:32
pepsi_minicom wants to think theres a modem04:32
nomasteryoda|wdelltony, phraking huh?04:32
dabaRnomad1: /join #flood04:32
nomad1wats that04:32
djm62pepsi_: have you googled the devices plus "linux"?  minicom doesn't insist on it being a modem04:33
Tony_LIt works!! It seems to be a Firefox option..... Theank you all!!! You are great.04:33
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nomad1BlueEagle, is sudo same as yum04:33
nomasteryoda|wTony_L, welcome04:33
delltonyhelix-player doesn't play the 3gp files by the way04:33
nomad1like if i wanna install an app04:33
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nomad1do i just do04:33
dabaRjoin #flood, nomad104:33
nomad1sudo install04:33
nomasteryoda|wnomad1, sudo is like "root"04:33
djm62delltony: must be only realplayer for some reason...04:33
pepsi_djm62, they are my devices.. i am making them.. i just want a real simple terminal session via the serial port... cat would be fine, but how would i setup the port?04:33
djm62delltony: sorry, my mistake04:33
nomasteryoda|wnomad1, do this way04:34
nomasteryoda|wnomad1, sudo -s04:34
nomasteryoda|wenter password04:34
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nomasteryoda|wapt-get update04:34
nomasteryoda|wapt-get install04:34
nomasteryoda|wand the program name04:34
djm62pepsi_: I've never done anything that low-level...you might be better off with some hand-rolled C?04:34
nomasteryoda|wor just run synaptic04:34
BlueEaglenomad1: ## default num  should be the 2nd section in menu.lst (6th line)04:34
dabaRnomad1: I suggest you read the wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo04:35
delltonyany word of when the breezy backports will be available?04:35
pepsi_theres gotta be something i can use thats already made.. i just want to redirect stdin to serial TX and serial RX to stdout04:35
nomasteryoda|wdelltony, have not heard... still using hoary here04:35
nomasteryoda|whoarybackports that is04:35
nomasteryoda|won breezy04:35
dabaRnomad1: the equivalent of yum is apt-get, aptitude and synaptic are user front-ends to apt-get04:35
pc22BlueEagle, i had this: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)04:35
pc22E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?04:35
nomad1can i get yum04:36
nomad1for ubuntu04:36
vader1102This is kind of kool, I am using an older iMAC with Ubuntu, quite nice so far04:36
dabaRnomad1: you dont want it, learn the proper way.04:36
nomasteryoda|wpc22, did you type sudo -s?04:36
jk-pc22: you have another apt-get/etc running?04:36
nomad1lol k04:36
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nomad1how come ubuntu rates better than fc404:36
nomad1wat are the reasons04:36
BlueEaglepc22: have you got synaptic open?04:36
nomasteryoda|wnomad1, cause it is04:36
cevizoglunomad1: rates better where?04:36
nomasteryoda|wbetter04:36
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dabaRdelltony: backports are versions of software from the unstable for the stable version, breezy-unstable, hoary-stable, so, that is how it has to be.04:36
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nomasteryoda|wdistrowatch04:36
nomad1on distrowatch.com04:36
nomad1its the nb1 distro04:37
cevizoglunomad1: you mean it ranks higher?04:37
nomasteryoda|wUbuntu ROCKS!04:37
nomad1ye04:37
djm62pepsi_: I think you'd be better off asking on hobbyist electronics sites...the number of them using linux is probably greater than the number of us making serial devices from chips'n'wires04:37
silvertonwtf?04:37
nomad1its coming first as i said04:37
silvertonnb1?04:37
BlueEaglenomad1: fc4 has got an installation that is bugged and could be fixed simply but the developers don't feel it is neccessary.04:37
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silvertonwtf does that mean?04:37
cevizoglunomad1: because more people are clicking the url04:37
dabaRnomad1: it is based on nothing factual, maybe like, popularity.04:37
pepsi_djm62, i hang out in #electronics, #robotics, and ##microcontrollers ;)04:37
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nomad1i found fc4 a bit messy04:37
tritiumthis is no surprise, folks04:37
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dabaRsilverton: no104:37
SPCcrowDoes anyone know how to get j2re working after you run the bin download?04:37
silverton.... ?04:37
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dabaRdapper what, thoreauputic ?04:37
silvertonyou mean "number one" ?04:37
nomasteryoda|wthoreauputic, LOL04:37
nomad1i was hoping this would be simple04:38
tritiumdabaR, breezy+104:38
silvertonsheesh...    how hard is it to fucking type it out?04:38
BlueEaglepepsi_: cat something > /dev/ttys0 would send it to the 1st serial port if I am not mistaking (which I may very well be)04:38
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dabaRdapper what? whats it called?04:38
tritiumsilverton, please watch the language04:38
nomad1next i wanna try mandriva04:38
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jk-pepsi_: you can use {g,c}kermit, but it's a little arcane...04:38
nomad1and then i pick the bist distro and keep it04:38
dabaRsilverton: it is obvious you are used to #debian:)04:38
djm62BlueEagle: capital S, but I don't know if that does anything04:38
silvertonI am...04:38
nomasteryoda|wsilverton, substitute fsck for that word04:38
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apokryphosdabaR: next version after breezy -- dapper drake.04:38
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silvertontritium, sorry, I'm pissed off right now04:38
dabaRno, its not called that.04:38
dabaRis it?04:38
tritiumsilverton, why?04:38
nomasteryoda|wthoreauputic, LOLRMAO04:38
apokryphosdabaR: indeed it is.04:39
pc22it says it is installed04:39
silvertonsubwoofer is pissing me off...  inputs are fscked04:39
tritiumyes, dabaR04:39
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silvertonand it's annoying me...04:39
BlueEagledjm62: You're right again.04:39
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cevizoglunomad1: I've tried the top 12 distros on distrowatch and think ubuntu is twice as good as any other out there, because of hardware support for powerbook and apt-get04:39
dabaRthanks.04:39
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pc22BlueEagle, its done04:39
apokryphossilverton: fscked isn't much different; just use "mucked" or something. =)04:39
silvertononeo f them works...  and the other one works...    if you move it about and get it into a "sweet" spot04:39
silvertonwtf?04:39
silvertonwasn't I just told to use "fsck"?04:39
johnnybezaklinux on ppc = the sux (imho and i'm on a mac w/ linux atm)04:39
delltonyjust so you know mplayer plays 3gp's i just tried it04:39
dabaRsilverton: if you ask a question in a good way, you may get an answer.04:39
nomad1then ubuntu it is04:39
RRubincevizoglu: dont forget the ideology of it too.04:39
nomasteryoda|wsilverton, lol04:39
BlueEaglepc22: Ok, now go to System -> Administration -> Shared folders (might be wrong translation)04:39
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BlueEaglepc22: Then just set up the folders you want to share there.04:40
djm62delltony: cool, good to have that in the logs04:40
nomad1im ordering like 20 cd's prolly give them to ppl at my university04:40
nomasteryoda|wfsck it04:40
nomad1share the love04:40
cevizogluRRubin: the ideology of ubuntu?04:40
SPCcrowI have a question that takes some explaning, anyone feel up to it?04:40
silvertonnomasteryoda|w, we4rd04:40
BlueEaglepc22: You might need to sudo /etc/init.d/samba start04:40
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tritiumSPCcrow, just ask.  If someone has an answer, they'll reply04:40
nomasteryoda|wdoesn't work on ubuntu... as in automatic ...i had to use Damnsmall to fsck my Ubuntu root04:40
silvertoncan't find my debian net inst cd either...  that's rather irritating04:40
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BlueEaglepc22: and edit /etc/samba/smb.conf (or similarly named file) to set up the configuration of the server.04:40
RRubincevizoglu: the ideology of non corporate controlled operating system04:41
SPCcrowWell, I am trying to get j2re to work to use Limewire, I downloaded the .bin and run it, now I don't know what to do next to actually get the j2re to work04:41
dabaRso vista is coming out?04:41
RRubindebian/ubuntu/slack/gentoo vs redhat04:41
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djm62RRubin: that doesn't differentiate ubuntu, so much as the "it should Just Work for Normal People" attitude04:41
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djm62IMO04:42
nomad1thx for the help04:42
tritiumsilverton, why would you not use the ubuntu packages of the nvidia drivers anyway?04:42
nomad1gonna go back to windows04:42
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nomad1cya later04:42
SPCcrowdjm62: i guess i am not a normal person... =)04:42
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concept10what makes ubuntu different is the brown desktop, thats all...04:42
RRubindjm62: i disagree. without the ideology, an OS is just a windows wanabe04:42
tritiumhave fun, nomad104:42
nomad1lol k04:42
djm62SPCcrow: ubuntu doesn't make or distribute limewire ;)04:42
=== apokryphos finds the brown weiird. :P
cevizogluRRubin: RRubin: or an <put your previous OS here> wannabe04:42
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concept10I was just kidding - the brown is nice but I have a soft blue schema04:43
SPCcrowdjm62: question isnt about limewire, its about setting up the j2re on ubuntu =)04:43
djm62RRubin: but most any linux distros aren't corporate (some more anti- than others)04:43
djm62!java04:43
ubotujava is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java04:43
ShadowpillarI say screw ideology for what works04:43
RRubincevizoglu: i'm just sayin, windows works for normal people. why go through the hassle of changing and being incompatable etc if not for the ideology of it.04:43
dabaRSPCcrow: you never installed it?04:43
cevizogluapokryphos: my GUI is all black and purple   :)04:43
djm62SPCcrow: ah, I got the wrong end of the stick04:43
SPCcrowThe java packages have been removed form the repositories04:44
cevizogluRRubin: because I come from mac os x and hate windows   ;)04:44
SPCcrowfrom even04:44
tritiumno, they've never been allowed in the repositories, thanks to Sun04:44
silvertontritium, a 3d game I want to play isn't rendering correctly04:44
pc22is there no automatic start for samba04:44
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silvertonfigured the official driver would fix it04:44
apokryphoscevizoglu: nearly as bad :P04:44
concept10the java packages are still in the repo.....04:44
cevizogluRRubin: and mac os x isn't enough to have on your resume' anymore04:44
vader1102is there a live cd for Breezy for ppc?04:44
apokryphosconcept10: for hoary? Nope.04:44
BlueEaglesilverton: Which game?04:45
concept10concept10@ubuntuconcept:~$ apt-cache search j2re04:45
concept10sun-j2re1.5 - Java(TM) 2 RE, Standard Edition, Sun Microsystems(TM)04:45
cevizogluvader1102, yes04:45
silvertonguild wars04:45
djm62so what is the status of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java ? is it just wrong?04:45
apokryphosconcept10: that just means you've got it, not that it's in a repo.04:45
silvertonthe ground looks fine when it first loads, then once you start moving ab00t, it turns white04:45
apokryphosdjm62: it's dated, yes.04:45
BlueEaglesilverton: using cedega?04:45
vader1102ok, I need to dig a little harder, cannot see it lol04:45
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silvertonBlueEagle, of course :P04:45
RRubincevizoglu: mac osx is exactly my point. why go through the pain of not being a sheep running windows, if you run right into the arms of a different (less popular sure) wolf.04:45
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burepeI am trying to install realplayer and it is asking me where the file I downloaded with apt-get. Can someone tell me where files downloaded with apt-get are put?04:46
butchfdrt] 04:46
concept10apokryphos: its still there04:46
butchtyuytutyutyrti04:46
apokryphosbutch: what are you doing?04:46
dabaRSPCcrow: tritium should one install the j2se from breezy onto hoary?04:46
cevizogluRRubin, I like ubuntu a lot better than mac os x.  for a multitude of reasons, the most basic of which ubuntu appeals to my geek side much more04:46
apokryphosconcept10: it's not, I assure you. :)04:46
BlueEaglesilverton: "The most recent Guild Wars update has broken support for this game under Cedega. The developers at TransGaming Technologies are currently investigating the situation to determine the best route to fix the issue."04:46
tritiumdabaR, no04:46
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dabaRtritium: where from?04:46
BlueEaglesilverton: Thu Sep 08, 2005 5:43 pm04:46
silvertonBlueEagle, oh...   dammit04:47
silvertonI hate my life >.<04:47
giovannwhen i was open the floppy drive, it was said unable to amount the selected volume how to fix it ?04:47
BlueEaglesilverton: It's in the cedega support forums.04:47
RRubincevizoglu: im into it for all those reasons too, but i think the ideology of it is important and overlooked a lot lately04:47
BlueEaglesilverton: http://transgaming.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=387504:47
djm62so, what is the thing for java (just to correct ubotu)?04:47
ksmurf!keys04:47
ubotuksmurf: Did you get hit by a windmill?04:47
thoreauputicconcept10: you are seeing what apt knows is on your drive - java is no longer in hoary-extras04:47
RRubinits good now, and it will be good forever because its not under some corp thumb04:47
tritiumdabaR, I always suggest that you download the .bin from Sun, and then use make-jpkg (provided by java-package) to build your own .deb to install04:47
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concept10apokryphos: youre correct04:47
djm62tritium: is that on a wiki?04:47
salamandyrquick question - i've have a win xp home box coming (need windows, sorry) but want to install linux - does ubuntu offer a nondestructive resize of partitions during install?04:47
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tritiumdjm62, it always used to be04:48
thoreauputicsalamandyr: yes04:48
cevizogluRRubin: I appreciate the underlying ideology a great deal as a developer04:48
dabaRSPCcrow: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions04:48
tritiumdjm62, that was the preferred method04:48
salamandyrthoreauputic: thanks04:48
cevizogluRRubin: after my experiences with apple's developer attitude in the past04:48
silvertonhmm...  why is gnomebaker in the sound & music menu?04:48
djm62tritium: well, it's not what ubotu says...do you have the URL to hand?04:49
dabaRsilverton: feel free to move it.04:49
poningru!dma04:49
silvertonI'm just curious as to why it defaults there04:49
silverton:P04:49
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BlueEaglesalamandyr: ALWAYS make BACKUPS when altering partitions. This is brain surgery on your harddrive and might cause data corruption.04:49
apokryphosdjm62: the wiki speaks of it04:49
tritiumit's the first link, djm6204:49
apokryphosdjm62: it's on the third line of text :)04:49
silvertonand it's only in breezy I've noticed04:49
silvertonit's in accessories in hoary04:49
tritiumwell, the second, I suppose04:49
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reikisalamandyr, I keep a windows drive here just in case. It's not in my machine. It's in a dataport carrier. I picked up a cage and 2 carriers on eBay for a total of $5.50 US. If I absolutely need windows I shut down, swap drives, boot up. I figured I'd have to reboot ANYWAYS to switch OS... this seemed a cleaner solution04:50
salamandyrBlueEagle: of course; this is an emachines coming preconfig'd with winxp - it should have a restore disk, which is all i'll need for backup04:50
cevizoglusilverton: because they guessed that most people will burn music cd's from there04:50
f_newton!backports04:50
ubotuAdd "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports04:50
salamandyrhi reiki: actually, i;ll need to use win pretty regularily for one app04:50
BlueEaglesalamandyr: Well, that and your documents ;)04:50
salamandyrBlueEagle - wont have any docs out of the box :)04:51
thoreauputicsalamandyr: emachines are known to have issues with linux, BTW, so be sure...04:51
salamandyrwill repartition for MacOS X and Ubuntu before i put anything on the windows partition04:51
reikisalamandyr, ok... but you'll have to shut down and reboot to do it. The way I suggested you don't have any worries about one OS corrupting the other :)04:51
KnelixAnyone have recommendations for a decent economical graphic card?04:51
dabaRf_newton: did you get the factoids I told ubotu to send you the last time?04:51
BlueEaglesalamandyr: Ahh, well then disregard my statement. :)04:51
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salamandyrreiki: maybe i should repartition outside of the ubuntu installer?  using diskcommander or partition magic or something?04:52
thoreauputicsalamandyr: I suggest you boot a live CD on it before buying04:52
f_newtonjust the site pointing to the repos but they are hollow... dont work04:52
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BlueEaglereiki: Also you save the unused drive from spinning up and down unneccessarily reducing wear and tear.04:52
KnelixSomeone mentioned something about open source drivers? Which cards have open-source drivers available?... Anyone have a link to info on this?04:52
salamandyrthoreauputic: ya, was going to dl a live cd04:52
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johndarkhorsesalamandyr: either way will be fine04:52
WebLOCHahh nighty04:52
f_newton!java04:52
ubotumethinks java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java04:52
salamandyrk, tkx johndarkhorse04:52
WebLOCHYou cant install java that way anymore04:52
thoreauputicapokryphos: good night :)04:52
BlueEaglenn apokryphos04:52
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WebLOCHYou have to download the binary from Sun04:52
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dabaRNight apokryphos04:53
tritiumusing make-jpkg (provided by java-package) is the preferred method04:53
ksmurfis there still a libquicktime?04:53
roxvilleksmurf, i think it's all in w32codecs now04:53
giovannwhen i was open my floopy disk, it was said the "Unable to amount the selected volume" wow can i fix it ?04:53
WebLOCHdabaR do you know how I might install the kernel headers?  A couple of things I am trying to install involve some compiling which requires them...04:54
djm62can I tell ubotu to point to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions then?04:54
giovannhow can i fix it ?04:54
ksmurfroxville that sucks because w32 is gone04:54
tritiumWebLOCH, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`04:54
djm62giovann: lsof | grep fd004:54
BlueEaglegiovann: "unable to amount" or "unable to mount" or "unable to umount"?04:54
roxvilleksmurf, gone? from backports?04:54
ksmurfyes04:54
giovannunable to mount04:54
salamandyroh - one last question re partitioning.  i will prob wait for breezybadger final (oct 13th?) to do my install... any caveats about installing on partitions above a certain block, like there used to be in early rh distros?04:54
roxvilleshit04:54
WebLOCHwhats uname -r ?04:54
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nomasteryoda|wsalamandyr, no04:55
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giovanndjm62 what u mean by lsof ?04:55
dabaRtells you the kernel version you are using.04:55
tritiumWebLOCH, try it on the command line, and you'll see04:55
johndarkhorsesalamandyr: there are no problems re that04:55
ryanpghi all... wondering if the next ubuntu release will have modular xorg?04:55
cevizogluWebLOCH, kernel release system info04:55
dabaRWebLOCH: ^04:55
locomorto|foodI'm using breezy and installed samba from the repos04:55
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djm62giovann: never mind, I read it as unmount04:55
salamandyrgreat - tkx yall04:55
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giovannlol04:55
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thoreauputicWebLOCH: $(uname -r) or `uname -r` expands to your kernel version04:55
giovanncould u help me pls ?04:55
locomorto|foodWhen i try to connect to my box, I get asked to input a password04:55
djm62giovann: how are you trying to mount it?04:56
locomorto|foodI have tried using my username and password but that does not work04:56
roxvillebut ksmurf , it's gotta be in debian somewhere04:56
locomorto|foodI can connect to my windows box just fine04:56
giovannhow to amount ?04:56
giovannhow to mount ?04:56
WebLOCHthanks guys that was helpful04:56
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BlueEaglegiovann: in a terminal type this: lsof|grep fd004:56
WebLOCHBreezy may not run, but by god Hoary will ride again04:56
BlueEaglegiovann: Give us the string returned if any. If you don't get anything but a new prompt then tell us that.04:56
giovannkk04:57
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cevizogluahhh, wireless on ubuntu is like heaven04:58
BlueEaglegiovann: Also, if you don't know what a command does check the man page for it before executing it. Someone might tell you to remove all files as a joke thinking that you already know what the rm command does. It is not very funny.04:58
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WebLOCHahh christ04:58
WebLOCHWhy is nothing simple!04:58
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thoreauputicWebLOCH: language please04:58
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f_newtonwell crap I cant get java installed... or the w32 codecs... cant find them on the repos04:58
djm62BlueEagle: you been caught with rm -rf04:58
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BlueEagledjm62: I have not, but I know people who have.04:59
KnelixAnyone have recommendations in getting a video card?04:59
WebLOCHI do not consider Christ any better or worse than crap or damn04:59
djm62nasty04:59
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BlueEagledjm62: Indeed.04:59
thoreauputicWebLOCH: it isn't your opinion or mine that matters though04:59
dabaRWebLOCH: just chill04:59
djm62WebLOCH: golden rule...it means what people perceive, not what you want it to04:59
WebLOCHI was trying to say is it suitable to say either of those?04:59
giovanni type it already but nothing will happen05:00
nomasteryoda|wsweet... can we expect to see Splashy in ubuntu repos?05:00
pc22BlueEagle, smbmount //myserver/myshare /home/yourusrname/mnt: whats myserver and myshare?05:00
djm62giovann: in linux, commands will say nothing if nothing's gone wrong05:00
thoreauputicWebLOCH: I was just suggesting you consider what others might feel - it's a fine line, I grant you05:00
f_newtonWebLOCH, the first is a very religious defamation.... for a lot of people05:00
dabaRf_newton: want help? I can get both set up for you. just have to cooperate. do you get messages from ubotu when I tell him to send them?05:00
johndarkhorsenomasteryoda|w: i thought splashy was gonna be in breezy (splash screen editor, right?)05:00
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djm62giovann: if you get another prompt, and no other output, that means it's worked, probably05:01
WebLOCHf_newton yeah I realise, i was just asking05:01
BlueEagleknelix: It's been my experience that nVidia is faster to make drivers for linux than ATi. Other than that find a reputable board maker and as much video ram and the fastest board that you can afford.05:01
dabaRWebLOCH: we understand your frustration05:01
nomasteryoda|wwell, let me look... since I'm running it05:01
f_newtondabaR, I have done this at least a hundred times... the repos arent giving me the apps05:01
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BlueEaglepc22: Do you want to mount a file shared by a windows pc?05:01
WebLOCHhaha, mainly because you guys are the ones sorting it out for me dabaR05:01
dabaRf_newton: yes, they have been removed05:01
factotumBlueEagle: as ATI buts it, they say "they should be thankfull we make the drivers we do"05:01
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ksmurfcould someone please post that the W32codecs and Java are gone.....  Compile from source or use "other means".  It's not the end of the world.05:02
f_newtonthere is no repo for them?05:02
giovanndo i need to change the floppy drive ?05:02
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djm62are any organisations using the remote desktop thing for support yet?05:02
dabaRf_newton: /join #dabar05:02
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BlueEaglefactotum: I've never heard anyone at ATi saying that, but it wouldn't suprise me if someone there did.05:02
factotumbut thats one ATI devs opinion. Cant really judge from one persons opinion i suppose05:02
dabaRheh, jj, come back05:02
dabaRI invite him to come, then I kick him...lol05:03
f_newtonnah... I think I'll just reload fedora on this and when I get back into town I'll take ubuntu off of all the machines in the office....05:03
KnelixBlueEagle, I just built a PC specifically so I could play around with Ubunto. I thought I could get away without a video card for a while (using integrated video instead) but then even the simple included 3D screen saver run like mollases. So, I'm not looking for something cutting edge, just decent.05:03
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djm62giovann: you aren't giving us enough information...what exactly are you typing, and what output do you get?05:03
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f_newtonplay your silly debian leet  games with someone else asshole05:03
factotumf_newton: dont bait people for help with your issures05:04
dabaRf_newton: look it was a joke:) and if you think it will be better, please go ahead.05:04
factotumissues even05:04
WebLOCHI don't suppose there are any generic solutions to make errors?05:04
giovannthere is no output05:04
dabaRWebLOCH: no.05:04
WebLOCHf_newton : im about 100% sure asshole is a bigger defamation tha "christ"05:04
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djm62giovann: and what exactly did you type in?05:04
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dabaRWebLOCH: dont linger.05:04
BlueEagleknelix: Well, then a 2nd hand geforce2 MX 400 would suffice.05:04
thoreauputicWebLOCH: you can debate it on #ubuntu-offtopic :)05:05
WebLOCHI dont want to debate it05:05
dabaRf_newton got mad, I am sorry about that...05:05
factotumif you expect a distro to spoon feed you everything to your liking, take a hammer to your computer and save everyone including yourself the time05:05
WebLOCHJust a statement, more specifically to him than anyone else :P05:05
djm62man, I just lost all that commission because he took ubuntu off those machines ;)05:05
WebLOCHI'm only here because you generally know more than me as it is.05:05
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giovanni type lsof | grep fd005:05
WebLOCHApparently you also know more than the fools that packaged my hardware drivers05:05
nomasteryoda|wer, so when is the dapper drake dev starting? Oct 14?05:05
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todd__are there any good plugins for gnome that emulate the mac dock?05:06
burepeI am installing realplayer? What directory should I install it in? What directory are programs normally installed in?05:06
djm62giovann: that was a command to diagnose what was wrong...what did you type to mount the disk? or is that what you're asking?05:06
dabaRWebLOCH: you will learn about the IRC netiquette as you go, wikipedia explanation of an internet troll, and the ask factoid from ubotu's linked page have good examples05:06
WebLOCHburepe, /usr/bin/05:06
burepethanks05:06
thoreauputicnomasteryoda|w: I would guess the devs would want to sober up after the party ;)05:06
giovanni try to amount05:06
nomasteryoda|wLOL05:06
nomasteryoda|wyea05:06
pc22BlueEagle, i want my windows pc to see my linux pc05:06
WebLOCHdabaR, I know plenty about it already, I just tend not to subscribe to a lot of the ideas, they might make for a better situation when it comes to overall discussion, but they tend to be unfair05:07
dabaRtodd__: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=13548&file1=13548-1.jpg&file2=13548-2.jpg&file3=&name=MacOS-X+Aqua+Theme05:07
giovann this is the output grep: amount: No such file or directory05:07
giovanngrep: disk: No such file or directory05:07
djm62giovann: try typing "mount /floppy"05:07
Philypc22: install samba05:07
nomasteryoda|wpc22, you need to make sure the smb.conf file has workgroup=yourworkgroup name same as the windows box05:07
KnelixBlueEagle: then that's your official recomendation? :-)05:07
djm62mount /floppy05:07
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thoreauputicWebLOCH: you weren't being victimised - just reminded: please, drop it05:07
dabaRWebLOCH: insight is important. like, when not to reply to something, and when to drop a topic05:07
giovannno such directory05:08
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WebLOCHprecisely...05:08
dabaRdjm62: its likely /dev/fd005:08
nargAnyone else noticed that the newest breezy update renders breezy unbootable?05:08
WebLOCHDo you know where I can lookup Make errors?05:08
todd__dabaR: thanks!!05:08
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dabaRWebLOCH: what are you making?05:08
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nomasteryoda|wnarg, not here.. i hope05:08
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WebLOCHIts meant to be my soundcard drivers, which came with motherboard CD05:09
djm62dabaR: if the symlink was already there, that would have done it...I don't have a floppy drive, sadly...do you?05:09
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dabaRdjm62: happens there is one:))05:09
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WebLOCHIt comes with linux drivers and installation instructions, im following them, but when i try to make I get a bunch of errors05:09
pc22i have samba installed. how do i  put a workgroup in smb.conf05:09
dabaRdjm62: never used prolly05:09
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KnelixI was hoping to get something with a TV out...05:09
nargnomasteryoda|w: kernel panics, and freezes trying to killy init. If possible, to be safe you might want to wait another day to boot :p (might not affect you, might though :p)05:09
dabaRWebLOCH: this is a call for....the pastebin.05:09
WebLOCHhaha05:09
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dozeranyone know why I get invalid driver! from ndiswrapper when it says theres nothing installed - or how to uninstall the bcmwl5.inf (or really whats going on) thanks for ANY help05:09
orangeyI'm having a kde problem.. everytime i start any (KDE) application, kmail also starts! Any ideas how I could troubleshoot this?05:09
KnelixI'm having trouble finding a monitor... maybe I could use a TV for a while... :-)05:10
vader1102WebLOCH,  are you trying withing the "sudo"?05:10
nomasteryoda|wnarg, i will wait... it's a laptop and Ubuntu handles the standby just peachy05:10
dabaRorangey: asked #kubuntu?05:10
WebLOCHvader1102,  yeah05:10
giovannmount: can't find /floppy in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab05:10
factotumsorry, i just use a WM, no DE05:10
vader1102k, beyond my scope then05:10
orangeydabaR: not yet.. but the numbers here are more encouraging : )05:10
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orangeydabaR: asked : )05:10
WebLOCH!pastebin05:10
ubotufrom memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl05:10
nomasteryoda|wgiovann, did you do .. mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy?05:10
Knelixorangey: Well, obviously if you're starting any other app, kmail should also be running... I mean what kind of insult is that to kmail not to have it running to to run other apps.. have some decency...05:11
bartelt problem with ltsp thin client boot after new install: /init: 64: syntax error: 0x, help?05:11
johnnybezakorangey: sudo apt-get remove kde ? :) (jk)05:11
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nootropeWill HH run on a Pentium II?05:12
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pc22nomasteryoda|w,  i have samba installed. how do i  put a workgroup in smb.conf05:12
WebLOCHdabaR, here is the end of the output, it seems okay up till then... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/233005:12
orangeyKnelix: : )05:12
djm62giovann: to get some information, do "grep fd /etc/fstab"05:12
bob2WebLOCH: the code is broken05:12
Knelix:-P05:12
factotumnootrope: i have HH running on a pentium MMX with fluxbox, walk in the park05:12
thoreauputicnootrope: it will, but you have to do some gymnastics :)05:12
dabaRnootrope: yes.05:12
bob2WebLOCH: also, that's an old version of alsa; why are you compiling it at all?05:13
djm62giovann: if that doesn't give a result, then you have to type a longer command05:13
pc22nomasteryoda|w, smbmount //myserver/myshare /home/yourusrname/mnt: whats myserver and myshare?05:13
WebLOCHbob2, its just what came bundled with my soundcard driver05:13
WebLOCHits part of the "installation"05:13
bob2WebLOCH: then throw it away05:13
giovannokey05:13
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WebLOCHbob2, if you would care to guide me thru installing my driver I shall do so gladly05:13
bob2WebLOCH: ubuntu includes a newer version of alsa than that anyway05:13
factotumi just use dillo for a web browser and term apps whenever possible05:13
todd__dabaR, but do you know where the dock plugin in that screen is from?  i know of the theme at gnome-look but where is the download for that plugin located?05:13
bob2WebLOCH: and the chipset is...?05:13
djm62giovann: what did you get from that command?05:13
hussamIf I adjust the Date and time from inside KDE, do I need to reboot?05:13
nomasteryoda|wpc22, you trying to mount a winows share from linux or linux smb share from windows?05:13
dabaRnootrope: you likely do not want to use gnome, but openbox, or so.05:14
nomasteryoda|wi thouught it was second choie05:14
WebLOCHbob2, realtek not sure how to check for a specific version05:14
nootropethanks. I keep getting a CXritical temperature reached 127 C. and it shuts down. i have a bigass fan on the open box and it still gives that error. any idea if this is an MMX probelm?05:14
nomasteryoda|wchoice05:14
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bob2WebLOCH: which has drivers inluded in ubuntu already05:14
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bob2nootrope: no, it's not a problem to do with your processor's ability to run mmx instructions05:14
dabaRtodd__: no, I dont happen to know. there are instructions on that page, and it is a good starting point, I just happened to stumble across that in the channel.05:14
pc22nomasteryoda|w, i want to share my linux to windows05:14
WebLOCHbob2, Realtek ALC880/882 Audio Driver V5.10.0.512505:14
bob2WebLOCH: why do you think you need to install anything at all?05:14
factotumalthough it runs fine, i plan on running FreeBSD on it when i have the chance...*ducks down*05:14
pc22specially for printing05:14
bob2unles crimsun told you to, I'd assume you don't05:15
WebLOCHNo sound plays05:15
nomasteryoda|wpc22, ok so that is what I thought05:15
WebLOCHand last time I installed ubuntu I needed to set up manually05:15
WebLOCHalthough it was a different system, it was realtek again05:15
todd__dabaR, ok, thanks!05:15
dozeranyone know any good sites on ndiswrapper that will actually tell me how to install it without 900 problems?05:15
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nomasteryoda|wpc22, example here... http://www.faqs.org/docs/securing/chap29sec284.html05:15
djm62!ndiswrapper05:15
ubotufrom memory, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper05:15
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bob2WebLOCH: why do you think you need to set it up manually?05:15
pc22i want also my other linux pc to print on my printer05:15
nomasteryoda|wpc22, sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf05:15
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WebLOCHbob2, because i had to last time05:16
nootropebob23: so the critical temperature reached error may be an artifact because the innards don't feel hot at all05:16
bob2WebLOCH: why do you think you needed to?05:16
dabaRdozer: problems are good, make you learn.05:16
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bob2nootrope: I don't know, but it's certainly unrelated to "MMX"05:16
WebLOCHbob2, I assume I am missing your point05:16
bob2I'd think at 127C things would be burning05:16
WebLOCHbob2, or you are a bot...05:16
dabaRWebLOCH: he is not;05:16
bob2WebLOCH: I don't understand why you thought you needed to compile anythign there, either05:16
nootropebob2 and otheres: thanks!05:16
DaaJeHHello05:17
WebLOCHI know thats why it was funny05:17
dozerdo make me learn but after 3 weeks of no wireless and having to sit 4 foot from the router WinXP looks better and better05:17
dabaRyo DaaJeH05:17
WebLOCHbob2, I cannot play back any sound05:17
cevizogludozer, if you've got some spare change for a different wireless card, the prism drivers make life easy05:17
DaaJeHDabaR,howdy05:17
bob2WebLOCH: which is not a very specific problem, and very open to trouble shooting05:17
WebLOCHbob2, I was following the linux driver install guide from my motherboard05:17
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factotumthe pentium mmx i was talking about is basicly a pentium 1 more or less, runs at 166 mHz05:17
bob2WebLOCH: for instance, is there a sound driver loaded for your card?05:17
cevizogludozer, http://prism54.org05:17
bob2WebLOCH: that guide is almost certainly wrong05:17
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DaaJeHHow do you enable the root account?05:18
bob2WebLOCH: so, put up your /var/log/dmesg somehwere, to start05:18
WebLOCHhmm okay05:18
bob2DaaJeH: wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo05:18
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bob2DaaJeH: the installer explained it to you, as does the FAQ05:18
WebLOCHyou mean like pastebin ?05:18
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dabaRys, that is what he meant.05:18
DaaJeHbecasue by default its disables05:18
cevizogluDaaJeH, are you sure you don't want sudo -s  ?05:18
bob2WebLOCH: anywhere on line05:18
poningruguys I had another suggestion for dapper05:18
dozerwell my laptop has it built in and would love to get it running with that - i have read stories of it running and know its possible with ndiswrapper - I even got it installed for once  its running   its just not seeing the drivers   in RIGHT there, ya know soo close but no dice   just lookin for that one last tip to get it fired up and forget about windows05:18
bob2DaaJeH: yes, the installer explaiend that to you, as did the FAQ05:18
poningrudo we have some sort of explainer thing after the installer05:18
poningrusome sort of walk through thing05:19
thoreauputic!tell DaaJeH about root05:19
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nomasteryoda|wdozer, i have it working here on ubuntu05:19
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durtdozer, you said its running, whats the problem?05:19
dabaRponingru: talk to the mailing list, I think. we dont have much to do with the process.05:19
DaaJeHThank you all05:19
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nomasteryoda|wbut when a kernel update happens, you must uninstall the ndiswrapper loaded driver and install again05:19
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pc22nomasteryoda|w, is there no graphical solution to this? im a beginner05:19
durtno you dont yoda05:20
nomasteryoda|wdozer, make sure it matches on versioin too05:20
dozerndiswrapper is installed and working   it just says the file is not installed but then it says its an invalid driver when I go to run it    then it wont let me uninstall it because it says theres nothing there05:20
WebLOCHbob2, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/233105:20
nomasteryoda|wpc22, yes05:20
nomasteryoda|wpc22, swat05:20
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djm62!ndiswrapper05:20
ubotuwell, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wirless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper05:20
bob2nomasteryoda|w: no, the ndiswrapper module in ubuntu gets updated with the rest of your kernel05:20
pc22nomasteryoda|w, where is that?05:20
cevizogludozer, it won't uninstall because it never did05:20
nomasteryoda|wwell, that is true, but the actual driver from windows seems to hang on this delll05:20
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cevizogludozer, sounds like ndiswrapper won't support your card05:20
bob2WebLOCH: sudo modprobe snd_i8x005:20
dozerwell its listing it as installed and i dont want to gunk up this install with 10 different drivers05:20
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nomasteryoda|w... removed using ndiswrapper -e and ndiswrapper -i to install again05:21
bob2WebLOCH: then put the output of "dmesg" on a pastebin again05:21
cevizogludozer, does the fcc id match exactly?05:21
bob2dozer: what NIC is it?05:21
nomasteryoda|whave confirmed that behavior 3 times05:21
dozerit does support it I just cant get the right drivers from broadcom because they are nazi bastards and wanna make me kill my self over wirless internet05:21
WebLOCHbob2, FATAL: Module snd_i8x0 not found.05:21
dabaRdozer: life is good.05:21
dozerwhats the command to find the NIC again?  still new to the commands for a little bit05:21
nomasteryoda|wdozer, yes you can...05:21
dabaRdozer: I own a iBook, what should I say?05:22
bob2WebLOCH: er, snd_intel8x0, oops05:22
nomasteryoda|wdozer, what brand laptop?05:22
WebLOCHhah okay05:22
WebLOCHhaha*05:22
bob2dozer: lspci perhaps05:22
dozerZD7000 pavilion  HP05:22
bob2dozer: oh, it's broadcom?05:22
dozeryuppers05:22
nomasteryoda|wdozer, i'll be it needs bcmwl5a.in05:22
nomasteryoda|wf05:22
nomasteryoda|wver 2 or 3?05:22
WebLOCHbob2, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/233205:23
cevizogludozer, broadcom failed miserably for my powerbook.  I'm using a prism chipset wireless by netgear05:23
dozerl5a - because im trying to use l5.inf  not "a"05:23
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dabaRcevizoglu: inside the 'book?05:23
nomasteryoda|wdozer, what version of the card?... ver 2 or ver 3?05:23
cevizogludabaR, pcmcia05:23
dozerare all the bcmwl5a.inf files all the same or are there different files of the same name?05:24
johndarkhorsebroadcoms are wasted with linux05:24
bob2WebLOCH: that' from the command "dmesg", or the file?05:24
dabaRcevizoglu: how, tehre is a slot?05:24
nomasteryoda|wjohndarkhorse, true05:24
WebLOCHfile sorry05:24
bob2WebLOCH: the command is what we need05:24
nomasteryoda|wjohndarkhorse, but they do work... at least05:24
dozerif you know where I could find the version of the card I would do so thew a command or any way threw linux?   like i said still new05:24
cevizogludabaR, yes05:24
johndarkhorsenomasteryoda|w: i have a ppc, i've never gotten it to work05:24
nomasteryoda|wpc22, did you try swat?05:24
bob2dozer: getting the driver from your windows partition is probably simplest05:24
nomasteryoda|wjohndarkhorse, yea05:24
nomasteryoda|wbut wine will work05:25
dozerwell i downloaded like 6 different files that were supposed to have it - not sure where to get the drivers from windows05:25
cevizogludabaR, on my 15" powerbook, there's a pcmcia slot on the left side05:25
nomasteryoda|wand extract the file for you then the process will crash...but driver will sit in the /home/user/.wine/C/temp folder ...05:25
dabaRgot it, thanks...05:25
dabaRdozer: lspci lists hardware in a terminal05:25
bob2dozer: so, look on your windows disk for the .inf file05:25
WebLOCHbob2,  is tghere an easy way to copy terminal output ?05:26
kevogodIf you completely remove a package, is there any way to get it to appear in Synaptic again?05:26
dozersays bash: lspci: command not found05:26
tritiumkevogod, it doesn't disappear.05:26
dabaRWebLOCH: how easy? ctrl+shift+c05:26
nomasteryoda|wLOL05:26
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nargdozer: need to use as root or add /sbin and/or /usr/sbin to path05:27
WebLOCHdidnt know05:27
kevogodtritium, Well, then are the Sun JRE and SDK packages gone then?05:27
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dabaRWebLOCH: the menu tells you.05:27
tritiumkevogod, yes05:27
BluntedHello everyone05:27
giovannnothing will happen05:27
nargIs there any way to check what packages are installed in an installation on another partition?05:27
WebLOCHdabaR it didnt work05:27
dozerlspci still doenst show under root and /usr/sbin05:28
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fysaboo.  Breezy doesn't come with JFS?05:28
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nomasteryoda|wnarg, you mean like in suse or another ubuntu?05:28
BluntedI hope this isnt too much to ask of anyone but i was having an issue with my webcam in linux. Im woundering what i can type in the console to kill the device05:28
djm62giovann: what was the output from the command I told you? "grep fd /etc/fstab" ?05:28
fysaFATAL: Module jfs not found.05:28
Bluntedi want to turn the device off05:28
Bluntedor kill it05:28
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Versedsince this is sorta on topic, is it easier to set a 802.11b card then g?05:28
giovanndj no output05:28
nargnomasteryoda|w: Im in hoary and I mounted the root of a breezy.05:28
dabaRWebLOCH: well, what exactly are you trying to do? if you highlight desired text, and press that key combination, text will be copied05:28
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WebLOCHi wanted to copy a LOT of terminal output05:29
nargdozer: try /bin/lspci05:29
WebLOCHimmediately05:29
Bluntedanyone know how i can kill /dev/video105:29
djm62giovann: ok, and what about "mount | grep mnt"?05:29
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WebLOCHI was wondeirng if i could use CAT for example to output a file05:29
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nomasteryoda|wnarg, then you should be able to look at the synaptic for that install if you chroot'd it05:29
Versedbecause with my g4 450, ubuntu automatically set up and installed the airport card and was up and running right after install and reboot.05:29
dabaRBlunted: disconnect the camera.05:29
giovannits not mount also05:29
adamhI want to put a "sleep 5" (or so) somewhere in the boot process (initrd) between when sd-mod is modprobed and when udevstart is called. How can I do that?05:29
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dozerno such file or directory05:29
Bluntedyes i have disconnected the camera05:29
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nargdozer: try apt-get install lspci :)05:29
Bluntedmy problems with VMWARE saying it is in use05:29
daloydoygood day everyone05:29
ManuelJhi, i have a question why isnot evince in the menu?05:30
pc22nomasteryoda|w, where can i find swat?05:30
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hoslerIm running fluxbox. Is there a way to get usb devices to still mount automaticaly?05:30
fysaI'm stuck.  I installed Hoary and used JFS as the rootfs.  Now I upgraded to Breezy and JFS isn't part of the kernel.05:30
dozerinstalling...05:30
WebLOCHbob2, http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/233305:30
dabaRhosler: run gnome-volume-manager05:30
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djm62giovann: you mean you get no output from that?05:30
nulli have sound blaster 5.1 channels, where i configure for that in ubuntu?05:30
kevogodtritium, Are there any repositories that have Sun's packages for Hoary?05:30
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hoslerdabaR: run that command at startup?05:30
dozerwow still no dice after the install   i dont think its supposed to work on this computer just drive me insane05:30
nomasteryoda|wpc22, try synaptic05:30
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dabaRManuelJ: what menu? did you install evince?05:31
adamhManuelJ: Because GNOME is meant to be document-based, not application-based. You don't create documents with Evince, so the only appropriate way to invoke it is by double-clicking on a file.05:31
daloydoyim a newbie... how can i get back to user permission... i have change users settings in user&group now I can't go to Administration>>>05:31
disasmfysa: i'd say your probly going to have to boot off a live cd, chroot, and either install a kernel with jfs in it, or compile one using kernel-package05:31
tritiumkevogod, not for hoary.  Download Sun's .bin, and use make-jpkg (provided by java-package) to build your own05:31
dabaRhosler: be creative, that is the gnome-volume-manager, that automounts drives05:31
djm62giovann: in that case, type "sudo mount -o user,rw -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt"05:31
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ManuelJadamh, and dabaR thanks a lot05:31
a-l-p-h-aWhat's a nice and easy to use SFTP client?05:31
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hoslerdabaR: does it have a configuration file? I want to change the file browser to something else.05:32
kevogodtritium, alright, thanks05:32
giovanndjm62 mount | grep mnt not outpud also05:32
thoreauputicdaloydoy: why did you change the user&group settings?05:32
giovannokey05:32
dabaRhosler: who has the conf file?05:32
tritiumkevogod, there will be blackdown's java in multiverse in breezy05:32
djm62a-l-p-h-a: integrated into nautilus: Places->Connect to Server05:32
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giovannthey want my password djm6205:32
djm62giovann: so give it :)05:32
giovannya i give it already05:33
daloydoyhave created a new account... user only not root... but i have accidentally unchecked execute admin tasks in my account...05:33
giovannwhat next ?05:33
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daloydoyhave changed the root in CLI but to no avail...05:33
djm62giovann: no output? then it's mounted05:33
daloydoythoreauputic: have created a new account... user only not root... but i have accidentally unchecked execute admin tasks in my account...05:33
dabaRdaloydoy: so you have no access to that user any more?05:33
a-l-p-h-adjm62, uh? how do I get SFTP? via ssh? but there's no password section.05:33
bob2WebLOCH: what did modprobe say?05:33
bob2WebLOCH: also, your disk is having issues05:33
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giovanni try to open my floopy disk now ?05:33
WebLOCHmodprobe didnt say anything if i recall05:34
disasmdaloydoy: only option i can think of is if no users have sudo priveleges, you may have to boot off a live cd, chroot in as root, and add the user via the cli in a chroot05:34
WebLOCHwhat do you mean by that bob2?05:34
djm62giovann: if you go to /mnt, you can see the files on your disk05:34
giovannok05:34
daloydoyi can still access the same desktop but have problems in administrative tasks like change network, etc...05:34
thoreauputicdaloydoy: the admin group is the sudoers permission group - do you have another account with sudo or root access?05:34
bob2WebLOCH: oh, hda is your cd drive05:34
djm62giovann: tell me if that's ok05:34
dabaRbob2: is mine? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/233405:34
daloydoyno other...05:34
djm62(so I can sleep)05:34
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bur[n] erthat was f'd up05:34
giovannbash: /mnt: is a directory05:34
dabaRdisasm: also, rebootin in safe mode works too.05:34
bur[n] ermy pw was changed05:35
bur[n] erdoh... wrong chan ;)05:35
fysahow the hell does Breezy kernel not have jfs?05:35
factotumhmmm... wonder if there is a .tcl for a bot to freak out and start throwing people to the wolves...sorry, random thought05:35
daloydoythoreauputic: no other except me05:35
thoreauputicdaloydoy: then you will have to boot in recovery mode and run visudo as root05:35
tritiumfysa, it does05:35
thoreauputicdaloydoy: see above05:35
djm62a-l-p-h-a: it'll ask you for a password (and if you want to store it on gnome-keyring)05:35
fysaI just upgraded from Hoary to Breezy.  Hoary worked fine with rootfs as jfs..05:35
disasmdabaR: you don't have to put the root pw in to get into single user mode? didn't know that05:35
thoreauputicdaloydoy: red man sudoers, reboot in recovery mode and run the visudo command05:35
fysaafter the upgrade, I get module jfs not loaded.05:35
dabaRdisasm: try it one of these days05:36
thoreauputics/red/read05:36
WebLOCHbob2, just tried modprobe again didnt say anything05:36
giovanndjm62 it not yet okey05:36
tritiumfysa, I'm on breezy, and have a jfs module05:36
bob2WebLOCH: odd05:36
djm62giovann: if you type "ls /mnt" what do you get?05:36
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disasmdabaR: i have mine set though, so it probably would ask me i'm guessing05:36
giovannwait05:36
RRubinis there a tutorial somewhere of building using deb source files?05:36
giovanndjm62 this one winrouteprov4.2.5keymakerror.zip05:36
sonoHello friends.  Anyone knows if FGLRX AMD64 drivers and modules are working at Breezy by now?05:37
djm62giovann: that is the file that was on your disk, I'm guessing :)05:37
hoslerdabaR: how do I change the file browser from nautilus to rox in gnome-volume-manager. There is no option in its configuration utility.05:37
locomorto|foodsono: You can always make your own05:37
fysatrit: 2.6.12-8? (amd64)05:37
fysaweird.05:37
dabaRhosler: no idea. I dont think that is where you would change it tho.05:37
sonothey are not compiling either locomorto05:37
tritiumfysa, 2.6.12-8-68605:38
hoslerok05:38
fysaafter rebooting a few times it worked.05:38
WebLOCHbob2, are you thinking or have you concluded your assistance?05:38
fysaoh, wait.05:38
fysanevermind.05:38
giovannthen what should i do ?05:38
locomorto|foodsono: remove any instance of fglrx.ko05:38
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locomorto|foodsono: and install kernel headers and source05:38
fysaAfter saying FATAL: Module jfs not found.  it says.. Mounting /dev/hda3 on /root failed: No such device.05:38
djm62giovann: /mnt is your floppy disk for now, you can save things to it and all that.  When you're finished using it, save your files, quit the programs, and type "sudo umount /mnt"05:38
hoslerHow can I change gnomes default file browser from nautilus to rox? For example I want rox to show the files of my usbdisk when I plug it in and not nautilus.05:38
thoreauputicWebLOCH: when modprobe says nothing, it has succeeded05:38
locomorto|foodsono: then you sould be able to build without problem05:38
fysaI think I need jfs compiled into the kernel?05:38
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BlueEaglefysa: is your root filesystem jfs?05:39
fysayes.05:39
johnnybezakwhats jfs?05:39
giovannthe problem is i don't know how to mount05:39
WebLOCHthoreauputic, I know, but I was asking if he had further information or if that was the end, seeing as he was offering to help get sound sorted05:39
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djm62giovann: you have mounted it05:39
daloydoythoreauputic: thank you very much05:39
BlueEaglefysa: Then you would probably need to roll your own kernel as the root filesystem cannot be a module but needs to be in the kernel as far as i can remember.05:39
djm62giovann: /dev/fd0 is mounted on /mnt05:39
sonook locomorto thx, the problem is that breezy's driver and modules, just don't start X, reporting missing GLcore set of symbols05:39
thoreauputicWebLOCH: if the modprobe succeeded, have you retried sound?05:39
nybblehey peeps05:39
daloydoythoreauputic: i will try...05:39
daloydoythoreauputic: salamat...05:40
nybblehmm...anyone know how i can stop eth0 and eth1 from connecting at bootup?05:40
WebLOCHyou mean retried playing something?  If so then yes I have05:40
giovanni need to quit the program right now ?05:40
thoreauputicdaloydoy: good luck :)05:40
thoreauputicWebLOCH: no good?05:40
adamhnybble: Just once, or every boot?05:40
WebLOCHnope05:40
djm62giovann: no, take your time, use /mnt like a normal bit of disk space05:40
WebLOCHive tried totem05:40
WebLOCHand xmms05:40
BlueEaglefysa: Either that or you need to choose another filesystem for your root.05:40
fysaBlueEagle: Exactly the problem.  It worked fine with Hoary. :P05:40
nybbleadamh: every reboot... i have no need half the time05:40
adamhnybble: Every boot: remove the "auto" lines from /etc/network/interfaces05:40
thoreauputicWebLOCH: and all channels are unmuted in alsamixer?05:40
fysaHoary let me make jfs as the rootfs.05:40
nybbleah ok05:40
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fysaWhen I upgraded to Breezy (popped CD in) ..05:40
nybblethx adamh05:40
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WebLOCHhavent checked it yet05:40
adamhnybble: np :)05:41
giovannbash: /dev/fd0: Permission denied05:41
fysait didn't bother checking.05:41
thoreauputicWebLOCH: check it then - often that's the problem05:41
WebLOCHthoreauputic, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device05:41
BlueEaglefysa: Well, it would appear that the kernel shipped with breezy hasn't got jfs buildt in then. :)05:41
djm62giovann: what was that the output from?05:41
pc22nomasteryoda|w, installed now. where can i find it?05:41
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thoreauputicWebLOCH: Ok you have a problem still, evidently :(05:41
nomasteryoda|whttp://localhost:90105:41
fysahaha.  exactly. :)05:41
giovannwhen i was type the /dev/fd005:41
giovannthat was the output05:41
fysaNow I'm at a loss though.05:42
thoreauputicWebLOCH: if you are around when crimsun is here, he might be able to help05:42
fysaI think I have to reinstall all over with Hoary again? :(05:42
WebLOCHahh okay05:42
djm62giovann: what are you trying to do, if you don't mind me asking?05:42
nybbleoh, adamh, how might i disable ntpupdate on startup?05:42
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BlueEaglefysa: I think chroot is on the breezy install cd05:42
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WebLOCHdo you know when he might be around?  I am on UK time so sleep is well overdue05:42
giovannim trying to mount the floppy05:42
crimsunfysa: generate a new initramfs with the jfs module included.05:42
djm62giovann: the floppy is mounted05:42
thoreauputicWebLOCH: umm.. here he is05:42
BlueEaglefysa: just boot the breezy install cd and hit ALT+F2 when the install app has started. Mount the root filesystem and chroot into it.05:42
nomasteryoda|wWebLOCH, that's like what 4am?05:42
giovannits already mounted ?05:42
djm62giovann: yes05:43
fysaI'll see if I can chroot.05:43
WebLOCHgaga05:43
WebLOCHhaha*05:43
pc22nomasteryoda|w, were u talking to me? http://localhost:90105:43
giovannwhat is the next ?05:43
WebLOCHits about 4.4505:43
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nomasteryoda|wpc22, yes05:43
adamhnybble: Erm.... update-rc.d ntpdate remove05:43
djm62giovann: when you typed "mount -o user,rw -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt" you mounted it05:43
BlueEaglefysa: ofcourse it would help if you had the kernel sources so you might want to run the installer to the point where you have detected ip adress from the dhcp server (if applicable)05:43
adamhnybble: maybe with a "-f" for good measure :)05:43
BlueEagleand then copy /etc/resolv.conf to /ubuntu/etc05:43
pc22nomasteryoda|w, not connection was refused05:43
djm62giovann: now when you want to put things on and off the disk, you use the directory /mnt05:43
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nybbleworked05:43
nybblethx05:43
nomasteryoda|wpc22, guessing swat is not running05:43
WebLOCHhey crimsun, do you fancy giving me a hand with my audiowoe?05:44
BlueEagle...provided you mount your ubunto root on /ubuntu ofcourse.05:44
djm62giovann: and when you're finished using the disk, you type "sudo umount /mnt"05:44
pc22how do i start it05:44
durthow can i get the lpr command to stop adding a top margin to my documents when i print?05:44
fysaunfortunately, Breezy installer won't go beyond detecting partitions for me (hence why I needed to go Hoary->Breezy)05:44
BlueEaglefysa: The only way that will not work is if the install cd doesn't know what jfs is. :p05:44
Plazmaubuntu is the greatest linux distro ever!05:44
djm62and take the disk out05:44
todd__anyone recommend a good dock plugin for gnome like the bottom dock in mac osx?05:44
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caloyasdas05:44
BlueEaglefysa: Did you check the md5 sum of the iso?05:44
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djm62giovann: floppies are kind of annoying...I can't recommend USB keys enough ;)05:44
BlueEaglefysa: ...or the install CD for errors?05:44
dabaRPlazma: in fact it is gnu/linux05:44
fysayeah.05:44
fysaI tried the daily also..05:45
Divixwhat do all of you find is the lowest amount of ram that runs Ubuntu decent ?05:45
nomasteryoda|wpc22, should be listed in /etc/init.d/05:45
vader1102todd__, I jave used K-Docler05:45
nomasteryoda|wgah05:45
nomasteryoda|woh well05:45
djm62giovann: if you type "mount" it will list everything that's mounted, should you get confused05:45
vader1102docker05:45
adamhDivix: Totally depends what you want to do with it05:45
DivixMainly network diag, web,05:45
nomasteryoda|wvader1102, kxdocker?05:45
giovannok05:45
vader1102yes...sorry05:45
PlazmaDivix, i have ubuntu on a ppc ibook with 192MB of ram and it runs beatifully05:45
djm62night all05:45
BlueEagledivix: web as in webserver or as in web browsing?05:45
dabaRnight05:45
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WebLOCHcrimsun, you about?05:46
BlueEagledivix: is it important for you to see images when browsing?05:46
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Divixsmooth,..... my 128 is not working so swift (700mhz)05:46
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todd__vader1102, when i tried installing it the background of it is black, any way to make it transparent?05:46
Divixyes05:46
nomasteryoda|wpc22, man swat05:46
nomasteryoda|wor info swat05:46
Marrukwhat clients does ubuntu come with chat client instant and irc?05:46
PlazmaDivix, i use xfce as my desktop and it runs fairly decent.. 366mhz 192mb ram05:46
nomasteryoda|wpc22, i don't have it installed here05:46
PlazmaMarruk, gaim and xchat05:46
dabaRMarruk: gaim05:46
thoreauputicMarruk: xchat IRC, gaim IM05:46
vader1102todd__,  I have no clue, it is my bedtime05:46
BlueEagledivix: on 128 mb and 700 mhz you should be able to run xorg and a light-weight windowmanager and opera or firefox smoothly. May I recomend xfce4, openbox or icewm (in random order)05:46
Marrukthoreauputic thanks05:47
DivixI am rather new to this, xfce?05:47
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crimsunWebLOCH: yes?05:47
hoslerHow can I change gnomes default file browser from nautilus to rox? For example I want rox to show the files of my usbdisk when I plug it in and not nautilus.05:47
WebLOCH crimsun, Ive been told you mght be able to help me sort out my audio problems, if you have time?05:47
durtfirefox is not smooth05:47
Philydivid,I use to run a PII 450 Mhz with enlignement 16 with absolutly no prob05:47
BlueEagledurt: fact or opinion?05:47
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Divixsweet05:47
todd__vader1102, ok, thanks!05:47
crimsunWebLOCH: sure, what're the issues?05:48
DivixI am a server/network tech and i am just now getting into the open source enviroment...05:48
giovannwhat is the command when mounting the floopy disk ?05:48
durtblueeagle: fact - opera is much more responsive, but it doesnt look as good05:48
Philydivx: with X you need more  RAM and then its going to run smothrt05:48
Divixcool... thanks05:48
PlazmaDivix, you want to use ubuntu as a desktop or server?05:48
WebLOCHcrabstic, not sure yet, I just know that current suggestions have lead people not  to know the answer05:48
DivixJust desktop05:49
BlueEagledurt: is that before or after you've disabled ipv6 in firefox?05:49
WebLOCHcrimsun, that was for you haha05:49
Divixusing it now as i have heard it is great for a first linux run05:49
WebLOCHnot crabstick05:49
dabaRlol05:49
PlazmaDivix, ive used linux off and on for 3 years and counting and im stuck on ubuntu now, very good for desktop use05:49
WebLOCHcrimsun, if i load alsamixer i get an error and if i attempt load an mp3 in xmms i get a similar error05:49
WebLOCHbasc05:49
BlueEagledurt: ..and opera is quite skinnable, so I don't see how you can make looks an issue in the depate.05:49
crimsunWebLOCH: erm, so essentially you have no sound?05:49
thoreauputicWebLOCH: you might start by teling him what your sound card is...05:49
BlueEagledebate*05:49
hoslerDivix, ubuntu=awsome05:49
BlueEagle(mu b fell over)05:50
DivixSo now i am basically using it for Ethereal, Terminal to my servers, and MISC web browsing/ reseraching05:50
durtblueeagle, ive done all that tweaking; im talking about the app itself (ie, it takes a while the file menu to open after you click on it)05:50
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WebLOCHcrimsun,  yeah its an ASUS mobo with HDA sound, provided by Realtek I can get the exact version if you like05:50
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hoslerDivix, I use ethereal too. Its aslo awsome.05:50
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crimsunWebLOCH: is this with Hoary or Breezy?05:50
adamhDivix: 128MB should be fine. Firefox can be a bit heavy, but otherwise 128MB is plenty, even for GNOME05:50
dabaRawesome05:50
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WebLOCHcrimsun, it is Hoary05:50
nybblehmm05:50
nybbleadamh: hmm, it seems hotplug is enabling it anyway05:50
disasmDivix: unless you want to stick with ubuntu i'd say try everything before ubuntu, because once you try ubuntu everything else will just be disappointing to use ;-) j/k05:50
crimsunWebLOCH: cat /proc/asound/modules05:50
WebLOCHBreezy rejects my user devices05:51
BlueEagledurt: Oh, well I've not seen any noticable lag in it. Might be just me that is lucky though.05:51
WebLOCHcat /proc/asound/modules05:51
WebLOCHbah05:51
durtblueeagle, opera also has that add banner05:51
crimsunWebLOCH: actually if you're on Hoary, you'll need to compile the azx driver. I'm sending you instructions.05:51
fysaALT-F2 -> BusyBox doesn't have jfs either. :/05:51
crimsun!tell WebLOCH about alsa-source05:51
DivixI have been told that Ubuntu does not use RPM's as i once played with (3 years ago) in redhat, What is its standard?05:51
BlueEagledurt: No it doesn't.05:51
roxvilleDivix, if you wanna try something fun (besides ubuntu) , try elive05:51
BlueEagledurt: unless you're too cheap to pay for it.05:51
disasmDivix: debs05:51
Plazma!elive05:51
ubotuPlazma: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?05:51
thoreauputicDivix: .deb05:51
anethemahey whats gonna be the name of the breezy successor?05:51
Divixthanks05:51
jsgotangcodapper05:52
hoslerI upgraded to breezy and now when I try to restart my laptop it doesnt turn the computer off after it shuts down everything else. I just have a blank screen and I have to hold the power button to turn off. Is there a way to fix this?05:52
thoreauputicDivix: Ubuntu is based on Debian05:52
fysaI've got a GRML CD I can use..05:52
DivixWhat is redhat (rpm's) base from?05:52
tritiumhosler, that's a bug with the ipw2200 driver.  Is it a Toshiba Tecra?05:52
thoreauputic!tell Divix about docs05:52
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PlazmaDivix, ubuntu uses an awesome package system that once you use, you wont want to live without05:52
BlueEaglehosler: Seems like a broken acpi setting. Might be an issue with the kernel. Are you using the 386 ot 686 kernel?05:52
locomorto!tell Divix about docs05:52
durtblueeagle: yes im quite niggardly :)05:52
hoslertritium: Its a Toshiba Satellite.05:52
thoreauputicDivix: rpm is a Red Hat invention05:52
hoslerBlueEagle: 38605:52
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tritiumhosler, a few of us with Toshibas with ipw2200 have that problem too05:53
Divixthe synmantec?05:53
dabaRanethema: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65536&highlight=dapper05:53
sonolocomorto|food : I am getting the same error -> Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o"05:53
WebLOCHcrimsun, its giving me a bunch of options, i have no idea which are correct05:53
thoreauputic!tell Divix about synaptic05:53
sonolocomorto|food : after compiling the driver05:53
WebLOCHcrimsun, nm installing05:53
BlueEaglehosler: You could try the 686 kernel (if hardware supports it), but it might be the same config bar cpu enhancement so it might be broken in that build as well.05:53
crimsunWebLOCH: say "no" to isapnp and "yes" to debug05:53
thoreauputicDivix: check your /msg es :)05:53
dabaRWebLOCH: use the azx driver05:53
disasmDivix: after using ubuntu about the only other distro i can stand using is gentoo, and thats only on a really fast machine i dont have to productive on05:53
tritiumBlueEagle, it's an ipw2200 bug05:53
BlueEaglehosler: In any case you should bug-report it.05:53
nybbleanyone know how to stop hotplug from enabling a net interface05:53
nybble?05:53
sonolocomorto|food : of course that's only part of the whole set of missing files05:53
crimsunevenin', tritium05:53
hoslertritium: Im not use to linux (native bsd user), so could you tell me the shutdown command? I usually have to exit to gdm and then to shutdown.05:54
hoslerBlueEagle: ok05:54
tritiumhi crimsun :)05:54
BlueEagletritium: ?05:54
dabaRnybble: paste your /etc/network/interfaces to a paste/ubuntulinux.nl page05:54
WebLOCHcrimsun,  i may need to redo this then, I said yes to "isapnp" and no to "debug05:54
Plazmahosler, shutdown -h now05:54
tritiumBlueEagle, yes>?05:54
locomortosono: it hink thats a problem with mplayer05:54
hoslerPlazma: ok thanks05:54
crimsunWebLOCH: yes, then please ctrl+c05:54
adamhnybble: /etc/hotplug/blacklist.d: add a file, and put the interface's module name. But you'd be better off letting hotplug load the interface and just not try and get an address for it (i.e., through /etc/network/interfaces)05:54
locomortosono: check the mplayer site05:54
crimsunWebLOCH: then sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-source05:54
locomortosono: I am assuming of course that you are using mplayer05:55
BlueEagletritium: Is it a bug in the acpi implementation of a spesific laptop?05:55
locomortosono: Or is this something else?05:55
locomortosono: me is confused05:55
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sonolocomorto... will that cause a conflict for compiling fglrx drivers?05:55
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DivixThanks for all the info, i always like to introdue my clients to well created distros...05:55
DivixGoodbye05:55
disasmnybble: are you referring to hotplug enabling the module or the actual bringing up of the interface?05:56
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tritiumBlueEagle, it's bug05:56
tritium1388205:56
sonos/for/when05:56
BlueEagletritium: Ahh, ok.05:56
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nybbledisasm: bringing it up...05:56
BlueEaglehosler: If you've got that spesific hardware that bug 13882 describes then it's a known issue.05:56
nybbledisasm, adamh, dabaR: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2335 my /etc/network/interfaces05:56
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hoslerok05:57
disasmnybble: remove lines 11 - 1305:57
seliniumwhat is the command line for finding out what flavour linux is installed?05:57
nybblebut i want to be able to easily turn it on when needed...05:58
WebLOCHcrimsun, what exactly was it you wanted me to paste05:58
BlueEagleselinium: cat /etc/issue will often tell you05:58
nybblei do that, it doesnt work easily05:58
crimsunselinium: for LSB-compliant distros, lsb_release -a05:58
WebLOCHthe output from the compile/install ?05:58
dabaRnybble: comment them out. # is the comment symbol05:58
seliniumcheers guys!05:58
disasmnybble: ifup ethX where x is number of interface05:58
nybblei know that05:58
disasmnybble: err sudo ifup ethX05:58
crimsunWebLOCH: nothing if the operation's successful. What's the last thing you executed?05:58
nybbleok...05:59
nybblebrb testing05:59
WebLOCHdid the instruction the bot sent me05:59
WebLOCHthen used the reconfiggure command to change the options i set incorrectly05:59
WebLOCHno perceivable failures05:59
crimsunWebLOCH: in that case you need to recompile the modules: sudo debian/rules binary_modules KSRC=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build KVERS=$(uname -r)06:00
bz0bquepapas!06:00
hoslerAre there any good disk defragmentors out there?06:00
BlueEaglehosler: for which file system?06:00
thoreauputichosler: you don't normally need to defrag in Linux06:00
hoslerBlueEagle: ext2, if thats what ubuntu uses.06:00
disasmhosler: defrag? whats that?06:00
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WebLOCHcrimsun,  a lot of output again none of it seems failed06:01
dr_willislol06:01
adamhhosler: It doesn't get fragmented much, you don't need a defragmenter :)06:01
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bz0bQUEPAPAS!06:01
snowowllinux doesnt need ext3 is journalized06:01
hosleradamh: ok06:01
thoreauputichosler: unless you have a full  drive or something unusual, no need to defrag at all06:01
dr_willisUgly windows habbits are hard to kick.06:01
crimsunWebLOCH: dpkg -l alsa-modules\*|grep ^ii06:01
bz0beww, winblows sucks06:01
bz0bi think dapper drake will rape vista06:02
BlueEaglehosler: ubuntu can use many filesystems, but they are less prone to fragmentation than other (read fat and ntfs) filesystems.06:02
hoslerdisasm: rearanges data on hard drive to make things load faster is a broad definition.06:02
snowowlany one trying beagle06:02
bz0beven hoary would be better then vista06:02
WebLOCHcrimsun, ii  alsa-modules-2 1.0.8-4ubuntu4 ALSA driver modules06:02
hoslerok06:02
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WebLOCHvista = macosx06:02
crimsunWebLOCH: good. Now sudo modprobe snd-azx06:02
geez?06:02
WebLOCHI ran the beta for awhile06:02
bz0bis it macos?06:02
adamhsnowowl: I've had it for a while, yeah...06:02
nybblealright06:02
nybbledidnt work06:02
WebLOCHcrimsun, no output06:02
selinium /j #redhat06:02
ksmurfnight all06:02
nybbleIgnoring unknown interface eth1=eth1. when i run ifup eth106:02
disasmhosler: yeah, i know, i still run it on client windows machines ;-) just haven't had to ever do it on linux in the last 7 years or so i've been using it06:02
bz0bbrb06:03
WebLOCHbz0b, it seems like macosx06:03
crimsunWebLOCH: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat06:03
bz0bWebLOCH, Well, I would doubt it, considering MacOS is good06:03
bz0bbrb06:03
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disasmhosler: can you pastebin output of ifconfig -a06:03
WebLOCHbz0b, I dont much like it06:03
WebLOCHcrimsun, Mixers:06:03
WebLOCH0: Realtek ID 88206:03
hoslerdisasm: sure just give me url to pastebin. I dont remembe it.06:03
bz0bWebLOCH, Well, you do know its based off of FreeBSD06:03
WebLOCHbz0b, yeah06:03
crimsunoh geez, an 882.06:03
crimsunThis nightmare will never end06:04
WebLOCHhaha06:04
disasmpastebin.ubuntulinux.nl06:04
WebLOCHwhere did you get the madphatsoundskills?06:04
bz0bWebLOCH, brb06:04
WebLOCHbz0b,  ok06:04
snowowlIm gonna try it06:04
BlueEaglehosler: There's a subtle difference between defragmenting files (put files in a continuous "line" on the harddisk) and rearranging files so things load faster (arrange several files in a particular order so that they are stored in the sequence most commonly used and thus using some nifty caching side effects to load faster) or so I've been told.06:04
crimsunWebLOCH: can you hear anything with ''aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''?06:04
disasmhosler: oops, that meant to be nybble06:04
nybblelol...06:05
WebLOCHYes06:05
giovannmount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device06:05
disasmnybble: can you pastebin output of ifconfig -a06:05
WebLOCHcrimsun,  yes I can06:05
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crimsunWebLOCH: excellent, problem resolved.06:05
hoslerdisasm: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/2336 there you go anyway06:05
WebLOCHso it is06:05
nybbleuhm ok06:05
WebLOCHcrimsun,  "mad props" i believe is the expression06:05
crimsunWebLOCH: if you're in GNOME, just log out of and back into GNOME06:05
nybbleit'll be diff since i had to re-enable it to be online here06:05
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hoslerBlueEagle: i said it was a broad definition, haha06:05
WebLOCHcrimsun, do you know if breezy will have support by default ?06:06
disasmhosler: is vmnet vmware virtual interfaces?06:06
crimsunWebLOCH: it will, but we're chasing a driver regression for the ALC880 codec06:06
WebLOCHahh06:06
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WebLOCHfair enough06:06
WebLOCHbrb gonna logout06:06
nybbledisasm: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/233706:06
hoslerdisasm: yeah06:06
giovanncan some one here give me a command by mounting a floopy drive ?06:06
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nybblethats after i renabled it in /etc/network/interfaces tho06:07
seliniumAaaaargh, 05:07 in the moring here. I really should go to bed!06:07
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nargself.sleep(selinium)06:08
hajaAnyone have any tips for tweaking Linux for UT2004?06:08
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BlueEaglegiovann: sudo mount /dev/fdX /path/to/mountpoint   where X is the floppy drive number (usually 0) and /path/to/mountpoint is the (existing) directory where you want the files on your floppy drive to appear.06:08
giovannwhat is the command in mounting by floopy drive ?06:08
WebLOCHcrimsun,  cheers very much, sound appears to be runnin fine06:08
giovannok06:08
disasmnybble: hmmm removing lines 11-13 should have only affected eth0 by the looks of it, eth1 shouldn't have been affected at all06:08
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nargsudo mount /media/floppy006:08
nybbleoh crap lol06:08
nargtry that06:08
adamhhaja: The one issue I've had (so long ago I forgot about it) is that hotplug loads a crappy AGP module, and the one supplied by the proprietary nVidia driver is way better.06:08
dr_willishaja,  boot a minimal window manager. or set up a X session that just runs the game06:08
adamhhaja: agpgart, I mean06:09
geezive installed ubuntu as server, now i want to install xfce4 how would i do this?06:09
WebLOCHjdk06:09
adamhhaja: I forget the details, but that could get you started if you're getting a way-too-low framerate06:09
nybblei'll try that disasm.brb once again06:09
seliniumdurt: lol, project supposed to be finished 2 months ago, dead line today... or looking for new job possibly! :|06:09
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fysaCan I mount my initrd and copy jfs.ko to it manually?06:09
hajaWell.... its not really that bad. I mean average around 40 fps... I'm running a 9800 Pro 128mb btw06:09
durtadamh: whats the option in xorg.conf that loads agpgart?06:09
disasmgeez: sudo apt-get install xfce4 dont forget to add repos to sources.list (universe and multiverse, not sure which one xfce is in)06:09
BlueEaglegeez: did you try sudo apt-get xfce406:09
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hoslerSo will windows adopt linux or bsd?06:10
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BlueEaglegeez: or even better: aptitude install xfce406:10
dr_willishosler,  they will go back to dos.. ddent you read the anoucements?06:10
hoslerdr_willis: haha06:11
thoreauputicgeez: sudo aptitude install xfce4 x-window-system-core gdm06:11
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nargselinium: How far away from finishing it?06:11
narg*are you06:11
WebLOCHHow do I install from a .bin file?06:11
disasmWebLOCH: what is it your installing?06:11
seliniumprobably a day.... Depends how many stupid mistakes I can make!06:11
narg./file.bin runs it.06:11
WebLOCHJDK + Netbeans 4.106:11
dr_willisyou run a .bin file.06:11
WebLOCHnarg I tried that06:12
disasmWebLOCH: use java-package06:12
dr_willissh whatever.bin06:12
narginstall it by putting it your path?06:12
BlueEaglewebloch: chmod u+x filename.bin06:12
Agrajagnarg: not unless it's executable, which it most likely is not.06:12
BlueEaglewebloch: then ./filename.bin06:12
hajaWhat doe CVS mean?06:12
nargAgrajag: I assumed the .bin file would be executable, :p06:12
hajalol..06:12
dr_willisthey need to quiot naming the things .bin and use somthing like foobar.runme06:12
dr_willis:P06:12
durtconcurrent versions system06:12
WebLOCHsh doesnt work06:12
nargconcurrent versioning system06:12
disasmWebLOCH: sudo apt-get install java-package; make-jpkg <name_of_bin>; dpkg -i <name_of_deb>06:12
dr_willistry  'file whatever.bin' and see what kind of file it is06:13
WebLOCHI didnt think Java-package was the official Sub set ?06:13
nargdr_willis: some do, but yea06:13
crimsunWebLOCH: yw06:13
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Agrajagnarg: it might be a binary, but a file you download is not executable until you tell it to be.06:13
WebLOCHBlue-Box,  ty06:13
nybblethanks guys, it worked...06:13
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nargI know, I just foolishly assume he had already chmod 777 or whatever'd it. Silly me :)06:13
BlueEaglewebloch: I'm not blue-box. :p06:13
WebLOCHBlue-Box,  you are now!06:14
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WebLOCHBlueEagle, sorry was me being slack06:14
BlueEagle;D06:14
Agrajagyeah, if he doesn't know how to run it, you gotta assume he doesn't know chmod either :/06:14
BlueEagleweiss: No problem.06:14
WebLOCHive used chmod before06:14
WebLOCHwhen I installed warty i didnt need to chmod it06:14
WebLOCHto run it06:14
WebLOCHso I wasnt sure what was going on06:14
Agrajagwell now you know06:15
WebLOCHindeed06:15
cevizoglunarg, you shouldn't chmod 777, chmod +x is safer06:15
dabaRwehats a WebLOCH ?06:15
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nargcevizoglu: I have no other users, but 4/5 accounts that I use, so I world allow most everything.06:15
WebLOCHdabaR, I was writing a program once that was to be called WebLOCH, however I usurped the name when signing up for a new email address one day, and it kind of stuck, been using it as a programming handle since06:16
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BlueEagledabar: It's a big pool of stuff on the web. From the scottish name for lake. Hence WebLOCH.06:17
shorty114i've installed XFCE using apt-get, but when i log out, there isn't any XFCE in the Sessions list... how do i use XFCE?06:17
crimsunshorty114: did you install xfce4?06:17
shorty114crimsun, i did "sudo apt-get install xfce"06:18
crimsunshorty114: no, use xfce406:18
shorty114should i uninstall xfce?06:18
crimsunno06:18
hajaIs there anyway to get my extra mouse buttons to work in Firefox as back/forward?06:18
shorty114and then install xfce4?06:18
shorty114ok i'll do xfce406:18
dabaRshorty114: use aptitude it is better.06:18
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dabaRshorty114: for the task....06:18
shorty114dabaR, instead of XFCE?06:18
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dabaRno, instead of apt-get06:18
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shorty114oho k06:19
BlueEagleshorty114: As dabar sais. aptitude is "the bettery way"(tm)06:19
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shorty114aptitude install xfce4?06:19
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BlueEagleshorty114: sudo aptitude install xfce4, but yes.06:19
shorty114ok06:19
BlueEagledabar: I'm going to have to stick with this forever now, you know.06:19
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WebLOCHDoes anyone here know if GNU java compiler is for sun java specifically06:20
geezive installed ubuntu as server, now i want to install xfce4 how would i do this?06:20
WebLOCHor is it a custom implementation?06:20
shorty114ookay this'll take a while06:20
crimsunWebLOCH: cleanroom implementation06:20
BlueEagleshorty114: what time is it?06:20
xarkWebLOCH: Its Java, but its specifically not Suns...06:20
pedri2i'm using kubuntu and i would like to include the games installed in ubuntu, how do i do that?06:20
shorty114geez, in terminal, sudo aptitude install xfce406:20
WebLOCHHmm06:20
WebLOCHI might aswell uninstall it then06:20
shorty114BlueEagle, uh, 9:20 pm?06:20
shorty11421 now06:20
xarkWebLOCH: Yes.  I was having problems using Sun's Java with the gcj runtime (almost worked... :)06:20
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geezshorty114: does that install xorg?06:21
geezas well*06:21
shorty114geez, idk06:21
WebLOCHcrimsun, xark,  do either of you know if compiling java is actually any faster than interpreted ?06:21
nargdoesnt aptitude keep a seperate database than apt-get/dpkg?06:21
BlueEagleshorty114: Well, get your evenin' meal done and go to sleep. It might be done when you wake up. :p06:21
WebLOCHxark, java for windows is appalling, its the main reason for my changeover06:21
shorty114geez, if it needs it, i guess it'll install xorg too06:21
shorty114it's already unpacking06:21
BlueEagleshorty114: it needs it and it will install it.06:21
BlueEagleshorty114: might not configure it for you though...06:21
xarkWebLOCH: With most JVMs, I think it JIT compiles.  Its possibly to nativly compile with gcj, but I am not sure how much of a win it is (or how well it works).06:21
shorty114BlueEagle, xorg?06:22
shorty114i already have GNOMe on here...06:22
BlueEagleshorty114: yes.06:22
shorty114so i'd have xorg, right?06:22
BlueEagleshorty114: if you've got gnome then you've got xorg.06:22
shorty114sweet06:22
shorty114i just can't stand gnome06:22
shorty114and kde's too high-end for my machine :)(06:22
BlueEagleshorty114: thus it won't install it or touch your xorg.conf06:22
crimsunWebLOCH: if you can notice the difference, you need to be working for a company to improve the performance of the JITter ;)06:23
disasmshorty114: i dont think it will install it, at least with debian sarge it doesn't because i have a couple servers with no xserver, but have xfce or fluxbox installed for use in vnc (which doesn't require an xserver)06:23
shorty114BlueEagle, i know, i was talking to geez06:23
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WebLOCHcrimsun, I havent had a chance to try it yet, but judging by the poor state of the garbage collector, I can only imagine natively compiled code being faster06:23
BlueEagleshorty114: Then you might want to prefix with geez:  hehe06:23
shorty114<shorty114> geez, if it needs it, i guess it'll install xorg too06:23
WebLOCHcrimsun, Also the windows implementation of the JVM is not particularly impressive by comparison to the linux versions for example06:24
shorty114but that can also be taken as not a nick :)06:24
xarkWebLOCH: I think its just a question of _when_ it gets turned into native code (compile time, or as needed at run time).06:24
dr_willisdoing a server install. then installing X. :P06:24
crimsunWebLOCH: well, natively compiled code wouldn't help with the garbage collection being any faster06:24
BlueEagleshorty114: That's what happens when people use nicks that look like d00d sp34k for jees :p06:24
RRubinwhen i select a different keyboard layout (dvorkak) all the ctrl-keys are still in the old one. is this a gtk bug?06:24
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shorty114i wonder if he has any problems with people going "geez, shut up" to other people...06:24
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crimsunRRubin: hmm? dvorak variant?06:25
BlueEagleshorty114: geez, c'mon. :p06:25
shorty114so after it's done installing, it should be listed in the Sessions thing in gdm, right?06:25
crimsunshorty114: yes, it will be06:25
shorty114so i can just log out and it'll be available?06:25
RRubincrimsun: it changes which keys are which. eg, f becomes u06:25
disasmshorty114: thats why i use : it tends to break things better than a comma (ntm tab completion puts it in)06:25
shorty114sweet06:25
shorty114thanks06:25
geezwhat06:25
BlueEagleshorty114: You might need to restart the X-server with CTRL+ALT+BackSpace before it appears in gdm06:25
crimsunRRubin: but ctrl doesn't move. Trust me.06:25
RRubincrimsun: but ctrl-f still is activating ctrl-f menu keys06:26
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RRubininstead of ctrl-u06:26
BlueEagleselinium: might even need to run /etc/init.d/gdm restart06:26
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WebLOCHcrimsun, I can only assume if you have a native executable its memory management is handled by the operating system rather than the JVM06:26
BlueEagle(although the former should suffice iirc)06:26
WebLOCHin which case it would be greatly beneficial06:26
crimsunRRubin: are you using Hoary or Breezy?06:26
RRubincrimsun: hoary06:26
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crimsunRRubin: did you move the dvorak selection to the top of the list?06:26
RRubincrimsun: yes, and made it the default06:27
angry_gameshello everyone...I'm a linux idiot who needs to simply figure out how to get 3d acceleration to work on ubuntu 64-bit and have googled all day and only have made things worse i think lol06:27
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crimsunWebLOCH: but the key to the jvm is that it does the garbage collection.06:27
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Nilbuswhat arch are ubuntu's packages compiled for? They should work on a Pentium2, right?06:28
WebLOCHcrimsun, im not sure I follow, it seems totally random, and in some cases does not appear to collect after objects are destroyed06:28
crimsunNilbus: they'll work on 38606:28
Nilbusthanks06:28
Nilbushow much disk space does a default install take?06:29
crimsunNilbus: ~1 GB06:29
angry_gamesis there anyone that can possibly spend a few minutes telling me what I must do to get a Radeon 9800XT to work correctly?06:29
Nilbusthanks crimsun06:29
dabaR!tell angry_games about ati06:29
crimsunWebLOCH: versions of Java prior to 1.5.0 have serious threading and garbage collection issues06:29
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angry_gamesthx dabaR i'll take a good read06:30
WebLOCHThat might well be it06:30
WebLOCHAnd sloppy programmers06:30
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angry_gamesok I have read all of this, and the only thing that ended up happening is that instead of glxrinfo showing my 9800, it is now showing Mesa which is worse06:30
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angry_gamesI am not opposed to completely reinstalling Ubuntu again to get all the way back to scratch if that is necessary06:31
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fadumptis the ubuntu-desktop package important?06:32
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dr_willisits a meta-package for all the otehr packages included in the standard desktop layout I think06:32
dabaRfadumpt: remiove it06:32
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dabaRdr_willis: true06:32
fadumptdabaR, you're just saying that06:32
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dr_willisof coruse what that REALLY means... I have no clue..06:32
dr_willis:P06:32
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dr_willisi think its mainly used - say if they decide a new 'thing' should be standard - they can add it to that package as a dependencie. so its included also by default06:33
dabaR dr_willis fadumpt it is a list of packages included in ubuntu desktrop. safe to remove as it is only a list, and is not a package at all06:33
dr_willisnot sure aht other uses all the meta-packages are for,06:33
fadumptoh okay06:33
fadumptcuz i want totem off06:34
dr_willisLol06:34
fadumpti just spent the day making mplayer perfect06:34
fadumptand now everythign defaults to totem06:34
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dabaRfadumpt: totem is part f the ubuntu desktp~op,, that is why its beng removed too06:34
angry_gamesi've figured out how to get mp3's to work, how to install Enemy Territory, etc...but I just cannot get 3d acceleration to work, and all of the ATI stuff I have read and tried only seems to make things worse06:35
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giovannmount: can't find /fd0 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab06:35
dabaRgiovann: paste ls /dev/fd* to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:36
fadumptyeah i can't get 3D nvidia installed, but that's another day06:36
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hunterphow do i turn off password prompt from screensaver06:36
giovannok06:36
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nargfadumpt: you installed nvidia-glx, and changed xorg.conf?06:37
giovann/dev/fd006:37
giovann/dev/fd:06:37
giovann0  1  2  306:37
fadumptthat's next time, but thanks for confirming it narg :)06:37
fadumpti tried to do the nvidia driver from thesite06:37
fadumptdidn't work out06:37
fadumptsaw an article against debian's install of nvidia06:37
nargangry_games: ati cards are known for being annoying, I'd help if I didnt have nvidia. Don't know much about ati.06:38
fadumpthunterp, go to System, preferences, xscreensaver06:38
dabaRsudo mkdir /mnt;sudo mkdir /mnt/floppy;sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy. Paste the output to the pastebin, please.06:38
durtfadumpt: nvidia-glx works fine06:38
fadumptuncheck lock screen after06:38
angry_gamesthe article/forum posts that dabar linked me to told me to NOT install the ATI drivers as the Ubuntu ones were more suited to what I had06:38
angry_gamesnarg: do you get openGL acceleration by default with nv cards?06:38
hunterpfadumpt: there is "screensaver" and nothing in there to remove the password prompt06:38
fadumptyeah screensaver06:39
fadumptand uncheck lock06:39
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fadumptthat should remove it06:39
tjstrying to find the w32codecs deb for breezy06:39
dabaRanyone know why a lot of the time when someone says my nick, I dont get his line highlighted? like with the angry_games one just a moment ago. irssi06:39
angry_gamesproblem is, I have 6800GT, 7800GT, 7800GTX, 6600GT SLI nv cards, but they are all PCI-E and the last time I tried to setup linux on an NF4 it was even worse...at least Ubuntu sees and defaults all the right stuff for this NF3 setup06:39
johndarkhorsetjs: there is none, go to www.mplayerhq.hu to their downloads page06:39
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fadumpttjs: i saw a thing on the mplayer (it;s for that right) to make your own .deb, seemed easy06:39
tjsah ok06:40
tjsthanks06:40
fadumptit's not *that* hard to install it from source yourself in ubuntu06:40
giovannmount: mount point /path/to/fd0 does not exist06:40
nargangry_games: Once I install binary nvidia drivers.06:40
hunterpfadumpt: it isnt checked06:40
fadumptoh, I don't know then....sorry06:40
fadumptand i'm going to bed06:40
fadumptnight06:40
angry_gamesnarg: argh...then here's a really stupid question...I downloaded the latest ATI rpm package...but I have no clue what to do with them06:40
nargangry_games: methinks your going to better off with an nvidia card on a wierd port than a ati card.06:41
dabaRgiovann: why /path/to? why not /dev/fd0?06:41
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nargangry_games: sudo alien package.rpm; sudo dpkg -i package.deb06:41
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giovanni want to mount the floopy06:41
angry_gamesI've unpacked them...but don't have a clue what to do from there (all linux stuff seems to be for you guys who already know the basics, which leaves super stupid noobs in the dark like me)06:41
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angry_gamesok let me try that (THX!)06:41
dabaRangry_games: you are not super stupid, I am sure.06:41
angry_gameswww.dfi-street.com = im not stupid on windows...but on linux i am dumber than Forrest Gump06:42
dabaRangry_games: you just play games, which is dumbing you down. install using the wiki method, that is the one that is the likeliest to yield results.06:42
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qmanmananyone know if the java install intructions from the hoary "unofficial" guide works with breezy?06:43
angry_gameshaha i barely have time for games06:43
qmanman!java06:43
ubotuI guess java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java06:43
johndarkhorseqmanman: the ubuntuguide will lead you into evil06:43
angry_gamesi just want to play one in Linux so I can say "I DID IT!!!" and then feel more confident about learning more linux06:43
Toma-angry_games: in that case, synaptic is your friend. get that setup ight and u can get the ubuuntu deb packages for ati drivers from the right repository06:43
johndarkhorse!tell qmanman about java06:43
qmanmanhasn't let me down so far =p06:43
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nargangry_games: If the rpms dont work, as Toma said, you might want to try debs.06:44
johndarkhorseqmanman: it has serious pitfalls for new to *nix users06:44
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angry_gameslol im still trying to get to the right ATI dir to run that command06:44
dabaRjohndarkhorse: the packages are not in extras nemore06:44
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kewlgurlhello06:45
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angry_gamessudo alien package.rpm; sudo dpkg -i package.deb  (where do i run this from? the same dir as the ATI rpm driver package?)06:45
user_hello06:45
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johndarkhorsedabaR: then i need to make me a an alias here with the manual instructions, eh?06:45
dabaRhey kewlgurl!06:45
dabaRjohndarkhorse: true06:45
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nybblehi kewlgurl06:45
Toma-why bother with rpms :( use the debs that have been built specifically for you06:45
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kewlgurlhow do i share printers??? ---newbie06:46
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angry_gamesToma-: ok where are they? (remember I have no clue about linux as I have been raised and bred on Windows)06:46
johndarkhorseangry_games: use synaptic an search to your hearts content06:46
angry_gamesi just want to learn this the correct way instead of fumbling through the dark06:46
data_hi06:47
angry_gamessynaptic is a webpage?06:47
johndarkhorseangry_games: make sure you have all your repositories enabled06:47
johndarkhorse!tell angry_games about synaptic06:47
Toma-angry_games: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories06:47
data_hello pips06:47
johndarkhorse!tell angry_games about sources06:47
Toma-then run synaptic, and get the flxglx drivers or someting... ill check06:47
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johndarkhorseToma-: dont recommend ubuntuguide, you will kill his system06:47
angry_gamesubuntuguide.org could not be found06:47
johndarkhorse!ubuntuguide06:47
ubotuit has been said that ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.06:47
Toma-sif06:47
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Toma-i used it, and my system is fine06:47
Toma-oic06:48
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johndarkhorseToma-: if you use marillat on ubuntu, you will soon find yourself with a dead system06:48
Toma-nah didnt use that repo06:48
angry_gamesok im reading this synaptic stuff06:48
blankwhat's the apt get command to get kde06:48
blanksudo apt-get install kde06:48
blank?06:48
Toma-kde-base i thinks06:48
angry_gamesps i can afford to kill systems if that is what is needed lol06:48
blankkay06:48
johndarkhorseblank: install "kubuntu-desktop"06:49
blanksudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:49
blank?06:49
johndarkhorseangry_games: just stay away from ubuntuguide06:49
johndarkhorseblank: correct06:49
blankthanks06:49
blankit'll still let me choose gnome if it's installed right06:49
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johndarkhorseblank: yes at your login screen under sessions06:49
dabaR kewlgurl between ubuntu computers, or ubuntu and oher OSs?06:50
blankthanks johndarkhorse06:50
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beti1blank : some of  my systemfiles were corrupt, how could i repair this06:50
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blankuh...I'm not a linux pro lol, sorry06:50
DansFloydis there anyway to access my windoze partition with ubuntu?06:50
johndarkhorseblank: i'm not either06:50
blankLOL06:50
johndarkhorse!tell DansFloyd about ntfs06:50
blankwell, still, I dont know about that lol06:50
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DansFloydi could access it when i was useing linspire06:50
blankhow do you install gnome themes06:51
data__hi 2 everyone06:51
kewlgurldabar between ubuntu and other os06:51
blankdo you just run the GTK config file it comes with06:51
angry_gamesubuntu guide doesnt work for me anyway06:51
johndarkhorseblank: system > prefs > themes06:51
blankcan anyone tell me how to install gnome themes06:51
blankthanks06:51
Toma-angry_games: xorg-driver-fglrx is the package you want...06:51
angry_gamesok in this page you sent, ive gotten into the synaptic package manager06:51
kewlgurlthanks ubotu06:52
angry_gamesthis picture though shows "Hoary Hedgehog" packages, but my package manager does not06:52
johndarkhorseangry_games: you should also read the 'sources' link you were sent06:52
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blankif I go to www.gnome-look.org , do I get GTK 2+ themes?06:52
data__hi poh06:52
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DansFloydthanks06:52
Ubuntu_NewBiehello to all masters06:52
data__hi poh06:52
johndarkhorseangry_games: synaptic works the same on all debian distros06:52
Ubuntu_NewBieany pinoy user here?06:53
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johndarkhorseblank: yes gtk206:53
data__hi aaron06:53
hondjeisn't gnome 2.12 supposed to have right click to encrypt support in nautilus? If so, where is it in breezy?06:53
blankthanks06:53
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kewlgurliam. ubuntu_newbie06:53
omphello ubuntists :P06:54
aaron_dang it. why am i aaron? brb.06:54
Ubuntu_NewBiekewlgurl, pwede private chat? are you familiar na using linux?06:54
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johndarkhorsehondje: no it is not06:54
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sunpascalcan anyone help me to get the login interface to display properly?06:54
sunpascalI get a blank screen06:54
beti1hi06:54
sunpascaland that's it06:54
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johndarkhorsehondje: only konqueror + kgpg06:54
beti1botom06:54
kewlgurlquite familiar but not that much06:54
hondjejohndarkhorse: Hrm, okay. I thought it was one of the google SOC things. Thanks :)06:54
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sunpascalthe sound works, and if I type my username + password it logs me in06:55
angry_gamesok its downloading something06:55
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johndarkhorsehondje: it may have been, but it hasnt filtered down this far yet06:55
hotgurl_17hi06:55
Toma-sunpascal: is the ~/.Xsessions file accessable?06:55
data__hi poh06:55
hondjeoh well, it's not that much work :) Thanks06:55
beti1botom06:55
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sunpascalToma - how do I check?06:55
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beti1botom ngarud06:56
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Toma-ls -sl ~/.Xsessions06:56
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volvoguymuch better.06:56
Toma-actually nevermind06:56
volvoguyhowdy johndarkhorse.06:57
angry_gamesok, i think it updated my Synaptic packages...where am I going from here?06:57
ompwhy the +r ?06:57
HylasIf I install grub on the MBR will it interfer with the 3rd party sata drivers I use to boot windows? Both Ubuntu and windows will be on the same sata drive.06:57
Toma-angry_games: find the fglrx packages06:57
johndarkhorsevolvoguy: howdy06:57
blankHello, I'd like to know if someone could help me installing the additional feautures of clearlooks perfection, found here http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2298906:58
sunpascalToma- where is the ~/.Xsessions file?06:58
blankI installed the theme06:58
blankbut I need to install the add ons06:58
Toma-sunpascal: im thinking of another distro, sorry06:58
hondjeah, it's a plugin...I could just whip up a deb for it06:58
volvoguyjohndarkhorse, i need to catch you over in ##apple for a minute.06:58
johndarkhorsevolvoguy: i'm always there06:58
blankanyone, please06:58
johndarkhorsehondje: please do and share the love06:58
angry_gamesi see fglrx-control and fglrx-kernel-source in the "all packages" list06:59
sunpascalToma- it displayed only 800x600. Then I played around with the xorg.conf and now it works _after_ I log in06:59
johndarkhorseangry_games: what do you want to install?06:59
blankwhat's the apt-get command to install ati drivers06:59
blanksudo apt-get install ati06:59
Toma-how about xorg-drivers-fglrx?06:59
blankor fglrx06:59
omphopefully Dapper Drake will be good enough to convince me to switch to ubuntu06:59
sunpascalToma- but the login screen doesn't seem to work06:59
sunpascalwhat do I do?06:59
angry_gamesi just want to enable 3d acceleration on this 9800XT 256MB AGP card07:00
angry_gamesit would run the glxgears and the other glxgears thing, but wouldnt run a real openGL application like Enemy Territory07:00
angry_gamesit just shuts back to the desktop07:00
sunpascalcan anyone help me please?07:00
blankangry games07:01
sunpascalI have display problems....07:01
blankI can help you, just shut up and let me ask the question07:01
blankguys07:01
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angry_gamesblank: er...ok?07:01
blankwhat's the apt-get command to install ati drivers, apt-get install ati or fglrx07:01
sanketmedhiHello07:01
sunpascalI feel like going back to windows.....07:02
Toma-'apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx' afaik07:02
blankafaik?07:02
sanketmedhiI am on hoary 5.04. I installed amarok using apt-get but i am not able to hear any sound07:02
blankangry_games, type that in terminal07:02
Toma-as far as i know ;)07:02
hondjejohndarkhorse: Sure, I'll give it a shot, but the debtools and me never get along too well :)07:02
angry_gamesas far as he knows07:02
beti1try to change the videocard07:02
angry_gamesi guess i have to use a 'sudo' before that right07:02
blankof course07:03
data_add my account cutyiex_crush09@yahoo.com07:03
HylasIf I install grub on the MBR will it interfer with the 3rd party sata drivers I use to boot windows? Both Ubuntu and windows will be on the same sata drive.07:03
blanksudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx07:03
blankthat07:03
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angry_gamesE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)07:03
angry_gamesE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?07:03
Toma-sudo07:03
dabaRclose synaptic07:03
fysais there a howto for using the Ubuntu install CD to chroot?07:03
mushroomblueangry_games: running synaptic somewhere/07:03
Toma-and close synaptic07:03
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angry_gamesoh lol07:03
angry_gameslet me close it07:03
CoryKmy cdplayer broke...07:03
Cashelhi folks.. can anyone tell me what package is the equiv to mysql-devel in hoary? can't find anything that might provide mysql_config for me....07:03
dabaRwe wont let you07:03
johndarkhorsehondje: get with me when i'm wearing my nalioth suit and i'll see what i can whip up07:04
sanketmedhiI am on hoary 5.04. I installed amarok using apt-get but i am not able to hear any sound07:04
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hondjejohndarkhorse: roger that07:04
angry_gamesxorg-driver-fglrx is already the newest version.07:04
angry_games0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.07:04
sanketmedhiamarok anyone?07:04
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blankthen you already have it installed angry games07:04
crimsunCashel: libmysqlclient10-dev07:05
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Toma-i see....07:05
crimsunCashel: if you're using 3.23.5607:05
Cashelahh its for the client! how wierd.. thanks :)07:05
Toma-sanketmedhi: make sure youre using the right output driver07:05
Cashel12 for me I believe... but that answers it sure enough, appreciate it...07:05
angry_gamesXlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".07:05
angry_gamesdisplay: :0.0  screen: 007:05
angry_gamesOpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org07:05
angry_gamesOpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect07:05
angry_gamesOpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)07:05
sanketmedhiToma-, I am using GStreamer over artsd07:05
angry_games(sorry for the multi-line spam)07:06
sanketmedhiToma-, it shows me that its playing but I dont hear anything07:06
johndarkhorseangry_games: do not paste in here07:06
angry_gameswhere am i supposed to paste?07:06
johndarkhorseangry_games: use #flood or a pastebin (read the /topic)07:06
angry_gamesgotcha07:06
sanketmedhiToma-, Rhthymbox works great!07:06
Cashelangry_games: pastebin.org is good... did you change your /etc/xorg.conf to Driver "fglrx" .. it'd be Driver "radeon" or "ati" by default...07:07
sanketmedhiToma-, any idea?07:07
angry_gamesyep I did that earlier from what was in the forum and the wiki07:07
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angry_gamesand instead of it being 9800 fglxrinfo now it shows that Mesa thing07:08
angry_gamesso I am pretty sure i totally messed it all up07:08
Cashelits not you, the ati support in linux has been an uphill battle...07:08
angry_gamesthis is the 5th time in about 5 years I have attempted linux and this time, I am NOT giving up dammit lol07:08
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Cashelangry_games: you ever compile your own kernel?07:09
angry_gameseach time before I have been so angry and frustrated that I swore I would NEVER fool with this stupid OS ever again, and my customers at dfi-street keep telling my Ubuntu is the best and its not as difficult as other linux07:09
blankhey guys07:09
angry_gamesCashel: nah, I'm a Windows dork...i support DFI motherboards and only Windows so this is all new to me07:10
nybblehey blank07:10
blankI'm trying to compile the clearlooks engine, but I get this error07:10
johndarkhorseangry_games: ubuntu is based on debian, whose package management is applauded07:10
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crimsunblank: it's installed by default in Hoary07:10
blankerror: GTK+-2.0 is required to compile clearlooks-engine07:10
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angry_gameswell the install of Ubuntu was the easiest linux install i ever tried07:10
johndarkhorseblank: why are you compiling it?07:10
blankokay then thanks07:10
angry_gamesSuSe, Mandrake, RedHat etc07:10
crimsunblank: apt-cache policy gtk2-engines-clearlooks07:10
blankI thought I needed it to install the clearlooks perfection, found here http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2298907:10
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angry_gamesand the 'get-apt' stuff is really nice compared to learning Klingon to figure out how to install anything07:11
blankI want to install that theme, with all the add ons, can anyone give me hints?07:11
blankhttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2298907:11
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angry_gamesi tried SuSe 64-bit about 2 months ago on an NF4 with PCI-Express and X850XT PE and it was a total freakin nightmare07:12
angry_gamesbut i guess what you guys are saying is that my problem is trying with an ATI card instead of an Nvidia card07:12
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mushroomblueis there a way to install sun-jre inside breezy?07:12
mushroombluebeing it's no longer in the hoary backports.07:12
Cashelangry_games: this is ATI's fault... I had to do whats on here: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html   .. to get my Radeon 9600 to work.. but this only aplies to r300 and up.... otherwise the "radeon" driver is said to work decently for most r200 etc boards.... if you have one of those you may try http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATI for good info...07:12
jsgotangcomushroomblue, enable multiverse you can get blackbox webstart07:13
blankjohndarkhorse: can you tell me how I can install the add ons to this theme? http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2298907:13
mushroomblueangry_games: having issues installing the driver?07:13
angry_gamesnah...if you tell me that my Nvidia NF4 boards (mainly network) will be ok during install, then I will just dump this install and try again on an NF4 with a 7800 or 6800GT07:13
angry_gamesmushroomblue: ^$@$@# ATI drivers wont give me openGL 3d acceleration lol07:13
johndarkhorseblank: gimme a minute. i'm at work in an office07:13
mushroomblueangry_games: I'll help.07:14
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mushroomblueangry_games: do "sudo lsmod | grep radeon"07:14
blankokay john, thanks07:14
angry_gamesmushroomblue: it is much appreciated! (I know NOTHING about linux)07:14
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mushroomblueangry_games: I figured. don't worry.07:14
mushroomblueangry_games: and have you installed the fglrx drivers?07:15
angry_gamesit just brings goes to another prompt07:15
mushroomblueokay.07:15
angry_gamesoops that didnt make sense07:15
mushroombluethat means they're not working.07:15
dr_willishmm..07:15
mushroombluethat's good.07:15
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angry_gamesi checked from johndarkhorse's instructions and it says i have latest ATI driver package, but it shows Mesa instead of ATI07:15
mushroomblueangry_games: did you install the fglrx drivers?07:15
mushroomblueokay.07:15
blanklet me know when johndarkhorse07:15
mushroomblueangry_games: type "sudo modprobe fglrx"07:15
angry_gameswould it be simpler to start all over from scratch since i have edited this and that all day long attempting this?07:16
mushroomblueangry_games: probably not. I bet I can get you up and running in under 10 minutes.07:16
angry_gamesnope didnt do anything either07:16
dabaRlater07:16
mushroomblueangry_games: heh. type "sudo lsmod | grep fglrx"07:16
angry_gameswithout quotes correct?07:16
mushroomblueyup.07:16
dr_willisHmm. one of these days i need to get the nvidia drivers qworking on my 5.10  box07:16
angry_gamesfglrx                 262240  007:17
anethemais there any advantage to installing breezy fresh compared to upgrading?07:17
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mushroomblueangry_games: wh00t.07:17
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anethemalike i saw in the notes that they have dmix enabled by default etc07:17
mushroomblueangry_games: it's loaded.07:17
angry_gameslol ill take that as a good sign07:17
dr_willisanethema,  gets rid of all the stuff you installed - then never used. :P07:17
mushroomblueangry_games: now, for the harder part.07:17
anethemai assume this wouldnt get changed from upgrading07:17
blankI need a hero! :O07:17
anethemadr_willis, i mean other than the obvious :)07:18
blankjohndarkhorse, when will you save me :(07:18
johndarkhorseblank: do you have a theme pkg in synaptic with "qt" in it?07:18
mushroomblueangry_games: type "sudo vim /etc/modules"07:18
blankeh?07:18
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blankqt?07:18
mushroomblueangry_games: press "a" to add text07:18
blankoh, search qt in synaptic?07:18
mushroomblueangry_games: and go to the bottom and add "fglrx" to the list07:18
sn0nis there a REALLY simple way to compile my kernel ?07:18
mushroomblueangry_games: then type ":wq" to save.07:18
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sn0nthe current ones broken with vmware and breezy07:18
sn0nneeds to be compiled with gcc 407:18
HylasIf I install grub on the MBR will it interfer with the 3rd party sata drivers I use to boot windows? Both Ubuntu and windows will be on the same sata drive.07:19
mushroomblueangry_games: if I went to fast, lemme know. I'll repeat. :)07:19
blankjohndarkhorse, i think i do07:19
sn0nHylas, use windows bootloader to book win07:19
blankgtk2-engines-gtk-qt07:19
blank?07:19
sn0n(and ubuntu)07:19
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angry_gamesit shows ide-cd, ide-disk, ide-generic, lp, mousedev, psmouse, rtc, and fglrx and fglrx in the list07:19
johndarkhorseblank: is it installed?07:19
angry_gamesie: two instances of fglrx07:19
mushroomblueangry_games: remove one of the fglrx's07:19
blanknope, should I install it? it says 'makes your gtk2 apps look like qt ones'07:20
angry_gamesarhg hold on i think i really ate dirt that time07:20
mushroomblueangry_games: either press a to go into edit mode, or press "dd" while on the line07:20
blanki dont think it has anything to do with this...but should I install it?07:20
sn0nblank: wats ur problem ?07:20
blankjohndarkhorse: basically I want to install the additional stuff in that theme, I already install the theme itself07:20
mushroomblueangry_games: if it messed up, just type esc, then :q!07:20
Hylassn0n: Have you got some tutorial on how to have both nt loader and grub running? or running ubuntu under nt loader?07:20
mushroomblueangry_games: I shouldn't have made you use vim, it's not for newbies. :)07:20
blanksn0n: I'm trying to install this theme http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=2298907:20
angry_gamesok gimme sec07:21
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sn0nHylas, just google for booting linux from ntloader07:21
blanksn0n, can you help me?07:21
sn0nsec07:21
angry_gamesE325: Attention07:21
botbuilderI think I may have picked an ideal setup to not run linux07:21
botbuilderlol07:21
botbuilderAMD64 + ATI PCI-E card...07:21
botbuilderoh well we will see07:21
angry_gamesfound a swap file by the name "/etc/.modules.swp" etc07:22
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sn0nblank: seems pretty self explaitory to me07:22
blankit does? :(07:22
angry_gamesi think it is saying that ive really screwed this up07:22
blankcan you please help me out07:22
DaaJeHHello07:22
mushroomblueangry_games: bah. don't worry.07:22
mushroomblueangry_games: are you at a command prompt?07:22
blankI installed the first download, the actual theme I guess, but I dont know how to install the rest07:22
DaaJeHI'm having a problem setting up my printer!07:22
angry_gamesyar07:22
fysamounting my root with rescue mode gives me "Mounting /dev/discs/disc0/part3 on /target failed: Invalid argument"07:22
sn0nthrow the icons folder into ~/.icons07:22
sn0nthe theme into ~/.themes07:22
blankwhere's ~/.icons07:23
DaaJeHAny help?07:23
angry_gamesi am at command prompt07:23
mushroomblueangry_games: okay. then type "sudo nano /etc/modules"07:23
sn0nblank : gnome-terminal  ;-)07:23
mushroomblueangry_games: that'll shut it up. :)07:23
sn0n:"-p07:23
angry_gamesok it looks like it did the first time thank god lol07:23
blankwait, sn0n, where?07:23
mushroomblueangry_games: then remove the second fglrx line.07:23
sn0nand ~/.icons is pretty self explaitory07:23
angry_gameshow do i get rid of that second fglrx07:23
blankI can't find it, I was looking for it07:23
sn0n~ = /home/user07:23
blankI know, but I can't find the, kay07:23
mushroomblueangry_games: just go down to it and delete it. :)07:23
sn0nmkdir ~/.icons07:23
blankthere is not icons folder there sn0n07:24
mushroomblueangry_games: arrow keys are your friend. :)07:24
blankjust Desktop07:24
sn0nok..07:24
angry_gamesooooooh07:24
blankoh I make it?07:24
sn0nopen gnome-terminal07:24
blankokay open07:24
sn0ntype mkdir ~/.icons07:24
angry_gameshighlighting it then hitting delete = doesn't work the way i expected it to =/07:24
angry_gameslol grrrrr07:24
mushroomblueangry_games: then once the line is removed, type Ctrl-X, Y, enter07:24
angry_gamesok its deleted, ill do that07:24
angry_gamesok back to command prompt07:25
blankmkdir: cannot create directory `/home/jorge/.icons': File exists07:25
sn0nok07:25
sn0nthen you have it07:25
mushroomblueangry_games: yay.07:25
sn0njust07:25
sn0ncd ~/.icons07:25
blankyes, but I can't SEE it :P07:25
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mushroomblueangry_games: now, for the hard part.07:25
sn0nls -Aa07:25
sn0nits there07:25
angry_gameslol i thought that was the hard part07:25
sn0ndont use nautilus07:25
mushroomblueangry_games: this next part is fairly easy.07:25
blankman, that'll be hard not using nautilus :(07:25
mushroomblueangry_games: just a little complicated.07:25
angry_gameshehe make up your mind hahaha07:25
sn0nthats for losers (but there is a 'show hidden folders) in nautiuls07:25
angry_gamesI'm ready07:25
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blankhow do you check the show hidden folders07:26
sn0nblank : in nautilus Ctrl + H07:26
mushroomblueangry_games: type "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak07:26
mushroomblue"07:26
MarxistCRTL + H would hide/unhinde files in nautilus07:26
fysa:(07:26
sn0nMarxist, i just said that  :-p07:26
angry_gamesok...just gave me another command prompt07:26
hondjejohndarkhorse: won't build without some work, so I'll save making a deb for another day07:26
fysalord.  why can't rescue-mode busybox mount my rootfs?!07:26
blankooo this is nice, thanks sn0n i wub you07:26
hondjemight be feeling more amiable to pbuilder then, too07:26
sn0nu really should learn the cmd line thou07:26
sn0n;-07:26
sn0n;-)07:27
johndarkhorsehondje: i'm useless without my nalioth coat, anyway07:27
blankyeah I know :P07:27
Marxistyeah sorry, but i trying to see if Xchat changed the  text i put in the chat from grey to green as i wanted it07:27
hondjelol07:27
blanki know the commands, just too tedious for me07:27
Marxistno luck so far07:27
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sn0nblank,  http://linuxcommand.sf.net07:27
mushroomblueangry_games: okay.07:27
mushroomblueangry_games: type "sudo fglrxconfig"07:27
sn0nblank : the cmd line is 1000000times faster then tinkering with two hands a keyboard and a mouse..07:27
angry_gamesdone07:27
mushroomblueangry_games: and go through the configurator.07:27
mushroomblueangry_games: it's a little daunting, but nothing too bad.07:27
botbuilderim prolly havign a similar problem07:27
mushroomblueangry_games: if you have issues, just ask.07:28
angry_gamesi use usb optical mouse...do i want Inport Bus?07:28
botbuilderfglrxinfo doesnt say anythin07:28
angry_games(i did this earlier and i think it is why everything is worse lol)07:28
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blankyeah I know, lol, but with all the version numbers it makes typing file names soo hard07:28
botbuilderewll07:28
mushroombluebotbuilder: type "glxinfo | grep vendor"07:28
botbuilder'unable to open display :0'07:28
mushroomblueangry_games: well, it's not too hard.07:28
sn0nblank, huh ?07:28
botbuildermushroomblue - k07:28
mushroomblueangry_games: you have PS2/USB mouse07:28
sn0nthat makes no sense07:28
blankgreat07:28
blankI can't find the07:28
angry_gamesmushroomblue, pick any mouse model? (it doesnt list me exact one)07:29
sn0nright click in nautilus.. and make the folder :-p07:29
blanki mean this, sn0n "cd someapplication-1-9.1.41.14.1beta-alpha_test"07:29
angry_gamesi just picked 2, generic07:29
mushroomblueangry_games: hold on.07:29
blankthat takes forever lol07:29
sn0nuse TAB completion07:29
sn0ntakes 1/4 second07:29
mushroomblueAngel-SL: yep07:29
blankhehe, niiice *grin*07:29
mushroomblueangry_games: don't emulate 3 buttons07:29
blankhey, I have all the folders now, but uh...dont know where to put the files, and it doesn't seem to come with a readme or anything07:29
sn0nu didnt know about typing tab in the terminal window ?07:29
angry_gamesmushroomblue, ok....quad buffer stereo?07:29
blankyeah, from a game, but didnt know it worked here07:30
botbuildermushroomblue - glxinfo says unable to open display07:30
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bmecoli-there we go07:30
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botbuildermushroomblue - grep vendor just sits there07:30
fysaWHY IS THIS SO BROKEN? :P07:30
mushroomblueangry_games: not really important.07:30
bmecoli-anyway what version of gcc do you guys use when you make your packages?07:30
mushroombluebotbuilder: neat! doesn't look like gl is working at all for you.07:30
angry_gamesmushroomblue,  single head (since i only using a single monitor)07:30
mushroomblueangry_games: yep.07:30
botbuildermush - nope07:30
blanksn0n, can you install it on your box and tell me what you did, pweeze, or something, cause I dont understand this07:30
blankyou just made the terminal my new best friend07:31
sn0nblank : what exactly isnt working ?07:31
angry_gamesmushroomblue, ok now it wants monitor info...i searched where it said to search earlier but to no avail...just use generic/defaults?07:31
mushroomblueangry_games: hold on.07:31
blanknot that it's not working, it's just i dont know what package goes where07:31
blankthere's like07:31
botbuildermushroomblue - i've got an ATI radion x700 and an AMD 64.  And a nforce2 or 3 mobo. a linux no-no07:31
blankmenuaddon.tar07:31
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blankbmpskin.tar07:31
blanketc. etc.07:31
bmecoli-uuuh07:31
bmecoli-anyone?07:32
angry_gamesbotbuilder, you and i are in the same boat...cant get openGL acceleration with Radeon on an A6407:32
sn0nok..07:32
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ColonelKernelwhats the command to see your network info?07:32
sn0nwats wrong with those ?07:32
sn0nits dead simple..07:32
blanknothin, i just dont know where they all go07:32
blanklol07:32
mushroomblueangry_games: you could simply not customize the refresh rate.07:32
angry_gamesok07:32
botbuilderangry_games - yeah, mines especially worse because its a PCI-E card07:32
mushroomblueangry_games: cos then Xorg will autodetect crap.07:32
sn0nthe clearlooks one goes into ~/.themes07:32
botbuilderI cant get ANY graphics07:32
mushroomblueangry_games: then you just log in with an insanely high resolution, and tweak. :)07:32
DansFloydQuestion: How prone is linx to viruses, worms, or trojans? is it necessary to get a anti-virus or firewall?07:32
blankokay07:32
mushroombluebotbuilder: eek. dunno if the rules of agpgart apply to that.07:32
sn0nthe beep media player one goes into ~/.bmp/skins07:32
sn0nor Skins07:32
sn0nthe icon into..well.. ~/.icons07:33
giovannmount: can't find /etc/fstab in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab07:33
sn0nits really simple..07:33
botbuilderyeah, new i shouldnt have gotten such good hardware lol07:33
botbuilder*knew07:33
blankthe beep media player in bmp/skins but from media player right07:33
blankfrom media player dir07:33
sn0nwhat media player you useing ?07:33
mushroombluebotbuilder: naw.07:33
ColonelKernelwhat do I type in to get my network info?07:33
blankreal media07:33
mushroombluebotbuilder: I bet it'll work.07:33
sn0nit done use the skins07:33
blankwell forget about that07:33
blankthat doesnt matter07:33
blankthe point is07:33
mushroombluebotbuilder: does "sudo lspci" come up with anything?07:33
blankthat I installed the theme07:33
sn0nthe skin is for beep and xmms07:34
blankbut it's not looking like it does on the site07:34
sn0nurl me a screenshot07:34
blankso i think i did it wrong07:34
blankokay07:34
blankhttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/m1/m22989-1.png07:34
angry_gamesmushroomblue, ok, please specify which restriction scheme you want to implement07:34
mushroomblueangry_games: accept the defaults.07:34
angry_gamesno restrictions?07:34
blankwhat it should look like, but mine is looking like the default blue one that comes with ubuntu07:34
sn0nblank : of YOUR desktop07:34
mushroomblueangry_games: for the most part, you can accept the defaults for the rest of this.07:34
blankwhen i installed the theme, it only installed a conf file07:34
botbuildermushroomblue - just a sec gotta restart.  that grep thing forze or someat07:35
blankso i think it doesnt have the necessary icons and all07:35
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blanksn0n, where does menuaddon go07:35
sn0n:: shrugs ::   ;-)07:35
blank:'(07:35
fysawhy is the install CD broken for rescue operations? :P07:35
blanksn0n, can you install the theme on your box and tell me how it goes07:35
angry_gamesdo i want to initialize xfree86-dga07:35
fysaI can't mount anything as a rootfs.07:35
fysamount gives "invalid argument."07:35
mushroomblueangry_games: if it defaults to yes, then yes. if not, then no.07:36
mushroomblueangry_games: like I said, you can accept the defaults from here on.07:36
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mushroomblueangry_games: which is pretty much just pressing enter a lot. :)07:36
angry_gamesok its asking me if its ok to write this config07:36
angry_gamesxf86config-4...ill assume to choose yes07:36
mushroomblueno.07:36
botbuildermushroomblue - that command came up with a shitload of stuff07:36
mushroombluexorg.conf07:37
mushroombluesave it as xorg.conf07:37
angry_gamesso choose no and it will give me another option to do that?07:37
mushroomblueangry_games: pretty much.07:37
blanksn0n, let me know when you're done if you do it07:37
mushroombluebotbuilder: then "sudo lspci | grep ati"07:37
botbuilderk07:37
sn0ni dont plan on it..07:37
sn0nsry07:37
sn0ni dont have time07:37
mushroombluebotbuilder: all we're really wanting is to see if linux sees your card.07:37
blank*crying* okay07:38
fysais there a way to modify an initrd image file by hand and insert a module into it?07:38
mushroombluebotbuilder: if so, you're halfway there.07:38
sn0nhehe07:38
sn0nsuck it up  ;-)07:38
hondjehey botbuilder :)07:38
angry_gamesmushroomblue, ooook...back to a command prompt07:38
mushroomblueangry_games: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart07:38
botbuildermushroomblue - well, It knows ive got an ati card. it says its a 'Unknown device 5e4b'07:39
botbuilder:(07:39
mushroombluebotbuilder: hrm.07:39
mushroombluethat could just be udev.07:39
mushroombluemight not be a big deal.07:39
mushroombluebotbuilder: have you installed the fglrx driver?07:39
fysaInstalling from Hoary .. AGAIN.07:39
botbuilderyep. sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx07:40
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mushroombluebotbuilder: if you "sudo modprobe fglrx", what happens?07:40
botbuilderthats for hoary though... i have breezy i believe07:40
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mushroombluebotbuilder: it shouldn't be too big an issue.07:41
mushroombluebotbuilder: wait.07:41
mushroombluehrm.07:41
botbuildermushroomblue - it has info about it, ati proprietary, yada yada.  2 irq interrupts07:41
mushroombluewell, that could explain the suckage.07:41
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mushroombluebotbuilder: okay. so linux sees the card. that makes this way easier.07:42
gfunckersmy Floopy disk drive unable to mount07:42
mushroombluebotbuilder: might want to go to the ati.com site, and just install the drivers from there.07:42
botbuilderuhrm07:42
botbuilderhow?07:42
botbuilderI've got one windows computer im chatting on here07:42
mushroombluewell, go download the latest (huge) driver package.07:42
mushroomblueoh. you can't use X.07:42
mushroombluehah. hold on.07:42
botbuilderand my other comp is the one thats dual booting 2 linux07:42
botbuilderyeah07:42
botbuilderi cant07:42
mushroombluelemme get you a direct link.07:43
mushroombluelotta typing, tho.07:43
botbuilderurg07:43
botbuilderyeah, i tried this last year with fedora core07:43
botbuilderXD07:43
khermansjust use a text-based web browser07:43
mushroomblueyeah, you _could_ use lynx07:43
mushroombluebut it's a PITA07:43
botbuilderooh, command?07:43
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mushroombluebotbuilder: lynx07:43
mushroomblue:)07:43
mushroomblueAngel-SL: work?07:44
mushroombluebah.07:44
mushroomblueangry_games: works?07:44
angry_gamesooook let me check with the fglrxinfo thing07:44
mushroomblueangry_games: screw fglrxinfo07:44
angry_gamesok07:44
mushroomblueangry_games: glxinfo | grep vendor07:44
angry_gamesit still says Mesa07:44
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gfunckersUnable to mount the selected volume07:44
angry_gamesok, SGI, ATI, and opengl is still mesa07:44
mushroomblueangry_games: is this the fglrx driver from hoary or breezy?07:45
angry_gameshas to be hoary i think07:45
patfmhi folks... any ideas on the easiest way to  set up ssh on my windows box?07:45
angry_gamesi downloaded the iso a month ago and just installed today07:45
mushroomblueangry_games: are you running hoary or breezy?07:45
patfmso ic an scp, etc back and forth07:45
XdudeXguyz can u help me set up webcam in my ubuntu box?07:45
angry_gamescommand to check?07:45
mushroomblueangry_games: crap. my fault then. you're running xfree86. :)07:45
angry_gameser07:45
mushroomblueangry_games: you didn't need to save to xorg.conf07:45
mushroomblueangry_games: let's see.07:46
angry_gameslol07:46
gfunckerscan u help me to mount the floopy ?07:46
mushroomblueangry_games: just re-run fglrxconfig07:46
mushroomblueangry_games: and save to the default name. :)07:46
mushroomblueangry_games: sorry about that. :)07:46
mushroomblueI just came from gentoo. not having xorg is sorta weird. :)07:46
patfmheh, xorg.conf, another thing iw as planning to ask about :)07:47
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AgrajagWAIT WHAT07:47
Agrajager07:47
Agrajagwait what07:47
XdudeXdo u guys know how to use webcam with ubuntu?07:47
mushroombluebotbuilder: URL is http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/64bit/ati-driver-installer-8.16.20-x86_64.run07:47
Agrajaghe said hoary, right?07:48
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XdudeXi am using hoary07:48
Agrajagthat's xorg07:48
mushroombluehoary is xorg?07:48
mushroomblueI thought hoary was xfree8607:48
angry_gamesok now startx?07:48
mushroombluebreezy is xorg.07:48
mushroomblueangry_games: yup.07:48
XdudeXpls help07:48
Agrajagno, warty used xfree8607:48
Agrajaghoary uses xorg07:48
mushroomblueAgrajag: wtf...07:48
angry_gamesoops  i need to log out first right?07:48
mushroomblueangry_games: most likely. :)07:49
angry_games*sigh* instead of thinking in linux, i just cant help myself thinking in windows instead07:49
angry_gamesbrb07:49
mushroomblueyou get over that quick.07:49
angry_gameswhats the command to drop me to the command prompt (kills xserver) that you gave me last time?07:50
mushroomblueangry_games: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart07:50
angry_gamesbetter learn these faster than using the gui07:50
mushroomblueheh.07:50
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IxchaelHow can I see what version of the linux kernel I am running?07:51
Marxistuname -a07:52
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botbuilderahah07:52
botbuilderthe stuff from the fglrx modprobe says its an agpgart interface and is from 2002.07:53
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patfmctrl-alt-f1?07:54
patfmoops07:54
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mushroombluebotbuilder: I'm betting that the new fglrx driver will suck WAY less than the one in ubuntu.07:56
XdudeXcan u tell me wer to get a4tech webcam driver for ubuntu pls?07:56
mushroomblueXdudeX: www.fuckingoogleit.com07:56
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mushroomblueXdudeX: if it's supported in linux, google will tell you the driver.07:56
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XdudeXshuckz07:57
mushroomblueXdudeX: then you type "sudo modprobe <driver>", and it'll load.07:57
XdudeXi've been searching it in google but havent found any07:57
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mushroomblueXdudeX: then you might be outta luck.07:57
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angry_gamesmushroomblue, well...that didn't really work out too well07:57
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mushroomblueangry_games: howssat?07:57
tommi^Hi. I really need help: My X stopped working after a normal session and a reboot. Xorg.log says it caught signal 11. What could be causing this? tia07:57
XdudeXey guyz have u used gaim-vv?07:57
mushroomblueXdudeX: about a year ago. not too far along yet. haven't checked back.07:58
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angry_gamesopenGL vendor string = Mesa still07:58
botbuildercan't X-windows just use VGA or something...07:59
botbuilderjust for a little while!?!?07:59
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Ixchaelthanks, Marxist - almost missed your reply, came so fast I thought it was meant for someone else :)08:00
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angry_gamesit will run the glxgears thing, but not fgl_glxgears08:00
XdudeXey guyz have u used gaim-vv?08:00
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angry_gamesmushroomblue, you going to be here a bit?08:01
angry_gamesi think i am just going to destroy this drive and start over one more time...my graphics were totally corrupted after I restarted and they are pretty ugly right now08:01
mushroomblueangry_games: did you restart the machine?08:01
mushroomblueangry_games: cos you might want to try that first.08:02
angry_gamesyes08:02
mushroombluehrm.08:02
XdudeXcan anyone here give me a nice chatting client dat can support yahoo with webcam?08:02
mushroombluesadly, no.08:02
mushroomblueI have to go to bed. getting up in 3 hours for work.08:02
angry_gamesi had to hit reset because the corruption was so bad that i couldnt see any menus at all08:02
angry_gamesjust a bunch of snow on the screen08:02
mushroombluebbt or something.08:02
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XdudeXcan anyone here give me a nice chatting client dat can support yahoo with webcam?08:02
angry_gameswell....does anyone know if latest Ubuntu supports the Nvidia NForce4 network controller without any hassle?08:02
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angry_gamesif it does, I will easily swap this out for an NF4 board and a 6800GT or 7800GT08:03
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botbuilder angry games - it should ive downloaded stuff through bash before08:03
botbuilder(havent gotten to xwindows yet)08:04
botbuilderI think ive got an nforce4 board08:04
angry_gamesi can always put an Intel Pro 10/100 NIC in it to get it up and running i guess08:04
DansFloydwhat a good TV tuner prog, for linux... im a newb so i need one thats easy t install...08:04
angry_gamesi know that SuSe 64-bit would not detect anything on the NF4 boards08:05
botbuildereeks08:05
angry_gamesshould I download the 5.10 Breezy stuff, or the 5.04 Hoary?08:05
johndarkhorseDansFloyd: what client do you use?08:05
botbuilderim hoping it finds my onboard soung08:05
botbuilder*sound08:05
darkheartangry_games 5.10 is still hoary isn't it?08:05
DansFloydubuntu08:05
johndarkhorseDansFloyd: or have you already been answered re auto id?08:05
DansFloyd?08:05
angry_gamesit says breezy on the site08:05
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robitaille5.10 is Breezy.  5.04 is Hoary08:06
darkheartangry_games Ok. But if you are using Breezy, then download the Breezy stuff.08:06
angry_gamesbotbuilder, the ALC850 Audio codec that most NF4's use is covered by Nvidia's Nforce chipset drivers....the MSI motherboard that has Creative integrated audio however is not08:06
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gn0meHas anyone had problems using cdrecord?08:06
botbuilderangry - I think mine's supported then08:06
gn0mecdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.08:06
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No1VikingHello: How do I get Firestarter enabled at startup of ubuntu?08:07
angry_gamesthis that i am using is 5.04 Hoary...I should have asked "should I download Breezy 5.10 and try that?"08:07
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johndarkhorseDansFloyd: what irc client do you use?08:07
angry_gamesie: is breezy 5.10 good and stable enough to fool with?08:07
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sn0nanapivirtua, yes08:07
sn0nangry_games, yes!08:07
sn0n:-D08:07
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KnelixHey guys...08:08
angry_gameshaha ok  let me download it on my WINDOWS SERVER lol08:08
robitailleangry_games,   I use it all the time.  But some small things are still changing between now and the release in October08:08
sn0nbut dont try running vmware with it.. cuz there is a gcc version error or some crap08:08
instaI've got a problem with my IDE drives.  After a reboot (not sure what I changed, if anything), my secondary master no longer mounts.08:08
angry_gamessince i freakin know how to use Windows08:08
darkheartangry_games I've heard people have some trouble, but I think it's stable enough. If you want to wait, the stable release should be coming out in a couple weeks.08:08
angry_gamessn0n, i dont have a clue what vmware is08:08
KnelixHow's this for a decent non-gaming graphics card for my new system?: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681412118608:08
sn0nand ur on a server ?08:08
sn0nlol08:08
No1VikingHow do I get Firestarter enabled at startup of ubuntu?08:08
sn0nvmware is a 'computer emulator' to say it for the uninformed08:08
angry_gamesKnelix, that is not a good gaming card, but it is good for surfing the web etc08:08
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darkheartNo1Viking Start of Ubuntu or X?08:09
No1Vikingdarkheart: ubuntu08:09
sn0nKnelix, any 32mb and up video card will work for non-gaming08:09
angry_gamesa good gaming card is 6600GT Nvidia or higher, or X800 ATI or higher (and I suppose avoid ATI on linux since i am having troubles also lol)08:09
sn0nim using a tnt2 32mb08:09
angry_gamesthe only nvidia agp card i have left is an old GeForce4MX08:09
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darkheartNo1Viking Hmm..Then you probably have to add a script to the /etc/init.d file.08:10
angry_gamesbut i have a 6600GT, 6800GT, 7800GT, 7800GTX to test with but only in PCI-E08:10
darkheartNo1Viking err....directory.08:10
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botbuildergad i should have gone nvidia08:10
angry_gamesall of my agp cards are ATI's lol08:10
No1Vikingdarkheart: How do I do it in X?08:10
instaAnybody have an idea about what's wrong with my stuff?  I get the error "/dev/hdc busy or already mounted", even though the mount point is empty, and AFAIK nothing else has tried to use the drive.  It won't unmount ...08:10
chavogot a 6600GT here and it rocks08:10
botbuilderand to think i went ati because the drivers seemed stabler08:10
angry_gamesi just dumped 6600GT SLI for a single 7800GT08:10
botbuilder:o08:10
angry_gamesbotbuilder, they are on the Windows platform08:10
robotgeekinsta: try lsof <mount  point>08:10
angry_gameslinux though....i guess we are finding out that it aint so rosy08:11
KnelixHmm. Interesting. Thanks for the info. Still considering what card to get. Unfortunately, even the included screen savers don't render well (very slow) using integrated video, which is unacceptable to  me.08:11
botbuilderyeps08:11
angry_gamesand we have a Crossfire ATI motherboard coming out in 3 weeks08:11
botbuilderthe ati website seems reallly slow08:11
instarobotgeek: What should it do?08:11
instaWhen I ran it, it returned nothing, output nothing.08:11
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angry_gamesso i am trying to get my linux learning in now before that board comes out and we spend 10 months doing 16-hour support days on it08:11
robotgeekinsta: it will tell you if anyprogram is accessing it08:12
instaI won't run anything else until I'm sure nothing else needs to be run :)08:12
darkheartNo1Viking If you want it to start in X you can add it to your .xsession I believe.08:12
instait didn't say anything08:12
angry_gamesknelix: go for a 6600GT minimum if you want a card that can do just about anything (including play Battlefield 2) and wont cost arm + leg08:12
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chavoangry_games, I think he's looking for a NON-gaming card08:12
angry_gamesohhh08:12
angry_gamesmy bad08:12
angry_gamesany 32MB card will do as someone already said08:13
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botbuilderyeah gfx cards dont matter unless your gaming08:13
sn0ni said that08:13
sn0n;-)08:13
angry_gamesif you look in the refurb or clearance section of newegg they always have 64MB AGP cards for very cheap08:13
sn0nangry_games, fuck that.. goto ANY ma and pa computer store.. $508:13
angry_gamesi picked up a couple of X300SE ATI pci-e cards for just regular motherboard testing for $32 each08:13
angry_gamestrue, except I live in Boise, ID which has only rip-off mom & pop stores08:14
sn0ntellin ya.. ma and pa stores.. they will have a card board box.. with piled of vid cards..08:14
johndarkhorsesn0n: language please08:14
angry_gamesif I was in orlando fl still...i could find all those really good 'dustbin' deals08:14
sn0nfck, shet, arse, biatch, cnt, whre,08:14
sn0n:-p08:14
botbuilderuhrm08:14
angry_gamesheh08:14
botbuilderbreezy is "X.Org 6.8"08:14
robotgeeksn0n: language please08:14
sn0nangry_games, try ebay ?08:14
sn0nhehe.. i said no cuss words ?08:15
angry_gamesi refuse to use ebay08:15
sn0nhehe08:15
DansFloydso anyone know of a good TV tuner for Ubuntu?08:15
angry_gamesonly half.com for vids and games08:15
sn0nits a $5 video card.. you CANT get ripped off08:15
sn0nlol08:15
instarobotgeek: Any other advice?08:15
angry_gamesid rather get it from the Egg and know i got a good return policy08:15
DansFloydi have a ATI all-in-one card08:15
Knelix$5.. only cards I saw for that price had a little star next to it, which, of course, means damned mail-in rebates which I, as a rule, do not do...08:15
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sn0nangry_games, whats ur address ? (pm it)08:15
robotgeekinsta: it should work and give u the process accessing it. otherwise, try a umount -f08:15
sn0ni'll mail you a 32mb card08:15
botbuilderhow the hell do i install a rpm off the net?08:15
angry_gamesanyway, i think i am going to move over to an Nvidia NF4 motherboard and pci-e vid card and retry this Ubuntu linux thing to see if i have better luck08:15
instaIt says it's not mounted08:16
robotgeekinsta: then it's not mounted!08:16
instaAnd no processes are accessing either it, or the mount point.08:16
botbuilderangry_games - lol08:16
botbuilderthats what i'm trying08:16
robitaillebotbuilder,   run the command alien on it, then install the resulting deb file with dpkg08:16
angry_gamessn0n, did you get that msg?08:16
botbuilder0_008:16
botbuilderk..08:16
botbuilderso like08:16
instarobotgeek: I was pretty sure it wasn't mounted ... that doesn't mean that mount /dev/hdc works.08:16
botbuilderalien http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/fglrx_6_8_0-8.16.20-1.i386.rpm08:16
botbuilder?08:17
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ouniqueoyou have to download the rpm then run alien08:17
gn0meYeah, that would convert it to a deb file08:17
angry_gamesbotbuilder,  i downloaded those but they wont install for me either08:17
botbuilderoh08:17
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gn0meThen you could "sudo dpkg -i <file>"08:17
botbuilderlol08:17
angry_gamesbut if you are around in a few hours, i will have setup the NF4 with ubuntu 5.10 lol08:17
gn0meThe new deb file08:17
botbuilderso how do i download them?08:17
angry_gamesand might be slightly more help than I am now08:17
botbuilderhah08:17
robotgeekinsta: you are trying to mount a device?08:17
botbuilderwell, thats the setup im on08:18
Marxistis 5.10 stable?08:18
botbuildernforce4, athlon64, PCI-E08:18
BurgundaviaMarxist, no, not yet08:18
botbuilderstable enough ;)08:18
botbuilderwell ok maybe not08:18
Marxistnot gonna take any changes08:18
botbuilderbut im confident the previous versions wouldnt work for me either08:18
angry_gamesbotbuilder, yep, I'll be on a DFI Lanparty NF4 SLI-DR, with whatever nvidia pci-e card i snatch to use and probably an X2 4400+ cpu (might as well see if Ubuntu supports dual cpu eh?)08:19
instarobotgeek: yeah.  I have a mountpoint in my fstab which used to work, and now it doesn't.08:19
instaThe drive is ext308:19
instaI have a mountpoint (/media/onetwenty) that exists with 0777 permissions08:19
KnelixHmm. I'm still trying to decide if it makes sense.. to spend $40 on a card I can't really do any graphic-intensive applications with, when perhaps a sub-$20 would do just fine for what I need.08:19
angry_gamesi assume Ubuntu 5.10 supports dual-core cpu's08:19
botbuilderangry games - you in a hardwrae store then?08:19
angry_gamesKnelix, yeah, you can find a good $20 32MB AGP card if you look08:20
instaIf I run the command `mount -t ext3 /dev/hdc /media/onetwenty`, it fails with "mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /media/onetwenty busy"08:20
angry_gamestry Pricegrabber.com or the refurb section of newegg.com08:20
robotgeekinsta: that's weird, try "sudo mount /dev/hdcx /media/wherever"08:20
instaEven though the lsof command on both /dev/hdc AND /media/onetwenty was blank.08:20
angry_gamesbotbuilder, no, I am the support manager for DFI-USA (www.dfi-street.com / www.dfi.com.tw)08:20
botbuildercool08:21
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angry_gamesi have to have all this hardware to test (but never get any real enjoyment out of it since i never get to play games since LINUX DOESNT WORK lol)08:21
botbuilderlol08:21
instaOh son of a bitch08:22
Knelixhmm.08:22
instaYou mount partitions, not drives08:22
robotgeekinsta: language, :)08:22
insta*bangs head into desk*08:22
instarobotgeek: I just reformatted the drive thinknig that was a problem08:22
robotgeekinsta: try the gnome drive applet mounter!08:22
instaLosing 80 gigs of self-ripped media08:22
instaI think I can swear once ;)08:22
robotgeekinsta: lol08:22
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angry_gamesjohndarkhorse, hey man thanks for being patient with me08:22
johndarkhorseangry_games: np08:22
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KnelixOh well, guys. Thanks on the advice. Will sleep on it. Now it's time to go to sleep mode...08:22
botbuildernice name08:22
angry_gamesill be back (thats a warning i suppose lol) in a bit with a different Ubuntu machine with just as many stupid questions08:22
botbuilderhah08:23
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botbuilderman08:23
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botbuilderahwell08:23
botbuilderoff to bed..08:23
botbuilderprolly come back to try again in a few months08:23
KnelixBy angry games... C 'ya guys.08:23
gn0meLinux works!08:23
johndarkhorseangry_games: there are no stupid questions08:23
botbuildersee if you guys have fixed this crap08:23
botbuilder;P08:23
after8does here...08:23
gn0meIt's fixed, you just need to find out how! :D08:24
botbuilderheh08:24
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dabaRhttp://www.psychocats.net/essays/linuxdesktop.php08:24
robotgeekjohndarkhorse: i know the other part, south park version :)08:24
dabaRhttp://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm08:24
botbuilderno, ive just gotta hack arround in the kernel sources08:24
dabaRread the urls, botbuilder08:24
botbuilderand thats no fun08:24
johndarkhorserobotgeek: ??08:24
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robotgeekjohndarkhorse: there are no stupid questions, only stupid ppl08:24
johndarkhorsengmlinux: welcome08:24
ElNooboStupidowoohoo - I found out how I can use a vanilla kernel again - thank the kernel gods08:24
angry_gamesjohndarkhorse, true...i get about 200 forum posts or emails a day with questions that are simple to me but impossible to those asking them08:24
ngmlinuxfinally08:24
ngmlinuxbut wait08:24
johndarkhorserobotgeek: er, whatever08:24
ngmlinuxstill says this nickname is owned by someone else?08:25
angry_gamespeople who cannot figure out how to plug in a power supply to our motherboard etc08:25
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botbuilderlol08:25
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angry_gamessimple stuff to me since i do it every day but for first-timers...its like me trying to build a car engine i guess (or run linux)08:25
botbuilderangry - I built my comp without instructions08:25
ngmlinuxahh whatever08:25
angry_gamesbotbuilder, a lot of people can if they are patient and google and read as much as they can before throwing down on a comp and trying to build it08:26
robotgeekdabaR: neat08:26
botbuilderoh..08:26
botbuilderwell, i didnt do that either08:26
botbuilderjust bought the stuff and plunked it in08:26
angry_gamesi spent about 5 or 6 hours at ubuntu forums and wiki and googling before i finally had enough and came in here to get help08:26
dabaRrobotgeek: just found those now...and read the linux!=windows one, and that, pretty neat08:26
ngmlinuxusername@localhost:/lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/kernel/drivers/usb/media$ sudo insmod ov51x.ko08:26
ngmlinuxinsmod: error inserting 'ov51x.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module08:26
botbuilderangry - well, I might have done the same08:27
botbuilderIf i could get into X08:27
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dabaRrobotgeek: the one I read makes very good points, and has very cool metaphores:)08:27
angry_gamesits like if i went to mexico...instead of learning spanish, i would gravitate to english speaking businesses because i know english natively08:27
chrizzlyhi to all08:27
dabaR!tell botbuilder about nicktab08:27
dabaRhey chrizzly08:27
angry_gameshola chrizzly08:27
botbuilderlol08:27
johndarkhorseangry_games: comprende computadoras en espanol?08:27
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chrizzlyhi angry_games08:27
angry_gamesi have to support windows day in and day out and so i know it like i know english08:27
ngmlinuxinsmod: error inserting 'ov51x.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module08:28
botbuilderI have to run windows day in and day out.08:28
botbuilderbecause it supports my hardware.08:28
gn0meWhat's so bad about that?08:28
botbuilder;)08:28
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dabaRangry_games: you can also read the http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm text.08:28
angry_gamesjohndarkhorse, para jugar noches del neverwinter usted tiene que aumentar su mquina!08:28
johndarkhorseangry_games: wow more spanish then me08:29
ngmlinuxinsmod: error inserting 'ov51x.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module08:29
dabaRthan08:29
ngmlinuxanybody know about module errors08:29
johndarkhorsedabaR: fill a cup with stfu, please08:29
angry_gamesdabaR, bookmarked that lol08:29
ngmlinuxand how to find missing simbols in ubuntu?08:29
dabaRjohndarkhorse: ok, sorry...08:29
ngmlinuxdebian handles that automatically08:29
angry_gamesjohndarkhorse, i dont speak ANY spanish other than curse words the mexican kids taught me in school08:29
ngmlinuxbye08:29
ngmlinuxthis is a waste of time08:29
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angry_gamesi just cut-n-pasted from a page i put up that you should read (if you have a wife/gf that does not understand your obsession with computers)08:30
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angry_gameshttp://www.angrygames.com/niner.htm08:30
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angry_gamesit's my gf's interpretation of computer lingo lol08:30
johndarkhorseangry_games: obsession? i've only got 508:31
angry_gameslol you are not as bad as some people then08:31
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angry_gamesbut worse than others who cant even get ONE to work08:31
angry_gamesthe hardest part for me is feeling like a failure because honestly...linux is just so hard for me to grasp08:31
angry_gamesi know im not stupid08:32
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botbuilderdabar - (referencing that article) well, perhaps linux is easy to install, etc if you are installing it on a fresh comp.  I was installing it dual booting to XP and overwriting fedora core.  I managed that in about 20 minutes talking with people and messing with teh partitions manager.  Then I reboot, all goes well, and plop, all the text gui has a ton of odd artifacts, strange letters scattered about the screen and a text dialog bo08:32
angry_gamesbut i just can't seem to grasp the entire concept of linux yet08:32
after8angry_games> don't feel like a failure..... it gets there eventually dude08:32
botbuilder(also installing on an outdated comp might help)08:32
angry_gamesafter8, the worst is that this is the 5th time ive given an attempt to linux08:32
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after8angry_games> patience, and a few broken eggs and you'l have your penguin omelette :D08:33
angry_gamesit makes me sooooo angry08:33
gn0mebotbuilder: I hated installing windows+linux because Windows would frequently write over the bootloaders, so you'd have to repair it08:33
fr500any channel on games?08:33
angry_gameshence my angry_games name lol08:33
botbuildergnome - hehe08:33
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arkaishi08:33
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botbuilderangry - yeha this is my 3rd time trying to install linux08:33
after8angry_games> i had a few tries with debian and mdk, and started again with ubuntu.... but i'd learnt some basics on the way...08:33
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botbuilder1st time red hat 9, 2nd time fedora core 4 64 bit, now ubuntu breezy08:33
gn0meI'm downloading Breezy to see if it's any good08:33
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angry_gamesi actually was able to install and play some games like Unreal Tournament and Quake3 on Mandrake Linux once....08:34
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angry_gamesit is getting better (ie: easier...or dumbed-down i guess) as the years go on08:34
botbuilderheh yeah08:34
botbuilderahwell08:34
after8you need to have the basics.   its getting less esoteric, but you still need to know a minimum shell.08:34
botbuilderI'll be back in 6 months to a year08:34
angry_gameswhen i first tried RedHat back in the late 90's....holy mother of god it was like the first or second beta of a GUI for linux08:35
botbuildermaybe by then we will have decent support of my hardware08:35
angry_gamesthe command line did everything, and the GUI was like Windows 3.1....so weak as to be useless08:35
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pefhello08:37
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angry_gamesok kids, be back in less than an hour (re-installing ubuntu on this box since i have hosed it so bad that everything sorta isn't working)08:40
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Hylasagreed08:41
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after8hehe....08:42
Liamconnect irc.dilexnet.net08:43
chrizzlyany Filipino there08:43
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abarbacciahow do i change the default app a filetype opens with08:47
divid'System -> Preferences -> Preferred applications' in the system menu08:49
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disgrunt_ledml08:49
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disgrunt_ledwhats the proper way to check the md5sum of a cd rom08:51
disgrunt_led*cdrom08:51
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patfmis there some way to re-run the xorg configuration thing that runs during startup:08:52
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kingemerdisgrunt_led: read it a few bytes at a time and feed that into something that generates the checksum for you08:52
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vladuz976anybody know if "turtlebeach" sound cards are a problem in ubuntu as far as drivers go?08:53
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DraalHowdy.. Two questions 1) What is the rec. amount of space for Ubuntu (main and swap) 2) What is the partition limit?08:54
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DraalErm.. Drive space in gigs08:54
disgrunt_ledcommand?08:54
miclorzhas anybody used hula project in here?08:54
Draalvladuz ~ do a google search08:54
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kingemerdisgrunt_led: hmm, beats me :-/08:55
disgrunt_leda simple md5sum /dev/cdrom used to work properly bu after last update it dosent08:55
Burgundaviamiclorz, there are some ubuntu users on breezy. #hula might be a better place to find them08:55
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miclorzBurgundavia: the hula group aren't responding08:56
abarbacciahow do i change the default app a filetype opens with08:57
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bam_rt mouse click properties08:57
bam_open with08:57
DraalOh.. WOW!08:57
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bam_wow?08:57
DraalNothing08:58
cevizogluwhy do the vim-gnome and vim-gtk packages not show up in the gnome menu?  which package would?08:58
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Draalbam_; I'm doing a clean install of Ubuntu on a 60 gig drive, I'd prefer to use as little space as possible for the base install and programs.. How much space do you think I should use?08:58
bam_dunno, why do you want to partition it08:59
bam_dual boot08:59
bam_?09:00
robitailleDraal,  Ubuntu should fit in 3GB...not counting users files, and if you are conservative in thr number of installed applications09:00
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zcat[1] moo09:00
after8partition tool question... is gparted 'safe' for resizing fat partitions09:00
cevizogluDraal, you also need to partition for your swap space09:00
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DraalWhat size for swap do you rec?09:00
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Draalbam ~ I just prefer to have as much space as possible for my own files09:01
bam_depends on how mush ram you have09:01
Draal25609:01
robitailleafter8,  I have done it, and  it worked.  but do your backups BEFORE the resizing :)09:01
Draalmegs09:01
bam_oh i see09:01
after8robitaille> ;) totally09:01
robitailleafter8,  some people do it afterward....09:01
robitailleor never...09:01
bam_whats the rule of thumb 2.5x, or is that just a windows suggestion09:01
bam_i dont run swap09:02
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bam_*a swap09:02
zcat[1] Swap:       979956       2908     97704809:02
mindamphow do i get mysql logging queries?09:02
zcat[1] I never seem to touch my swap no matter what I do.09:02
mindampi can't just add --log=/var/spool/mysql/mysql_all.log to init.d ...09:03
mindampit doesn't work09:03
robitaillebam_, the Breezy installer gave me a default of 512mb for a  machine with 256mb of ram09:03
zcat[1] .. currently using 3k out of almost a gig?09:03
bam_ive got 2 gigs of ram so i thought....why?09:03
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bam_im at 20%09:03
DraalOh.. So swap is virtual memory?09:03
robitailleif I had 2gb of ram I wouldn't bother with swap...09:03
No1Viking!tell me about iptables09:03
zcat[1] I have 300M of ram and ubuntu never seems to bother with swap..09:03
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Draal!tell me about iptables09:04
bam_thats why i switched from xp09:04
bam_faster09:04
No1VikingHow do I enable iptables as a daemon?09:04
TokenBadI have 1 gig09:04
TokenBadso not sure what my swap would be09:04
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mindamphow do i get mysql logging queries?09:05
mindampi can't just add --log=/var/spool/mysql/mysql_all.log to init.d ...09:05
mindampit doesn't work09:05
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TokenBador even if I knew..I wouldn't know how to set swap for that size09:05
disgrunt_ledwhats the proper way to check the md5sum of a cdrom09:05
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zcat[1] disgrunt_led: md5sum /dev/cdrom should work ..09:06
bam_hmm how odd09:06
mumakHow can I make caps lock an extra control key on my powerbook?09:06
disgrunt_ledit used too09:06
bam_got 3 files that refuse to delete09:06
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disgrunt_ledthats why im asking09:06
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disgrunt_ledit no longer works that way09:07
disgrunt_ledwtf happend i wonder09:07
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zcat[1] CD not padded out to full blocks09:07
zcat[1] ?09:07
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disgrunt_ledi get io error09:07
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disgrunt_ledits a debian cdrom burned a image09:08
disgrunt_led*as a image09:08
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No1VikingHow do I enable iptables as a daemon?09:08
zcat[1] md5sum the iso?09:08
er4z0rhello, I am trying to get vnc4server working by this HOWTO:09:09
er4z0rhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42941&page=1&pp=10&highlight=vnc4server09:09
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disgrunt_ledyeah i  did the downloaded file but i want to check the actual cd09:09
er4z0rhowever I cannot find /etc/init.d/inetd09:09
er4z0rhow come?09:09
nigehow do i tell what verision of x i am using09:09
er4z0rI am using Brezzy btw.09:09
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nigeeither xorg or free8609:09
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zcat[1] usually --version tells you09:10
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No1Viking!tell me about firewall09:10
Draal!tell me about partitions09:10
gagocan we play online games with ubuntu?09:10
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DraalYes09:11
DraalTry Wesnoth09:11
DraalIts fun09:11
gagohow about ragnarok online and elysian ragnarok?09:11
Draal!tell me about partition09:11
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DraalNo09:11
gagono chance at all?09:12
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gagocoz the internet cafes here in the philippines r pretty fucked up with this BSA shit..09:13
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er4z0rnobody an idea?09:13
after8gago> maybe with transgaming cedega09:13
after8er4z0r> try: sudo find / -name inetd09:13
gagoit's kinda limited..09:13
pcjohni must be blind.. but i was thinking of trying ubuntu.. but cant find what the system requirements are.. don't want to download it if its not going to work with my computer.. anyone want to enlighten me?09:14
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er4z0rafter8: /etc/webmin/inetd09:14
er4z0r/usr/share/webmin/mscstyle3/inetd09:14
er4z0r/usr/share/webmin/inetd09:14
er4z0rlooks like there was not inetd on my system09:15
er4z0rvery strange09:15
mumaksurely someone has a powerbook and cares about caps lock being an extra control09:15
robitaillepcjohn,  I can't remember seeing an actual doc with system requirements (but I know they are working on one for the release of Breezy).  What are the specs of your machine?09:15
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gagoit's very important that i install all the online games that the customers want to play..  namely: gunbound, elysianRO, Khan09:15
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pcjohnceleron 850mhz 256mb ram.. its a laptop.. think it would work ok?09:16
gagoit'll do fine..09:16
after8pcjohn> no pbs09:16
robitaillepcjohn,  oh yes it will fine09:16
pcjohnok.. thx09:16
after8i'm on a P3 500 w/ 256...09:16
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gagoafter8> it'll do fine too09:17
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persiaI'm having trouble getting all by (ASCII) keys to work on a japanese keyboard in X.  Does anybody have a good understanding of how xkb selects the mapping?09:19
kingemerive installed ubuntu on a 200mhz, 128MB, and it ran just fine09:20
mindframei upgrade to breezy and iwconfig is showing both eth1 and eth2 as my wifi card.  how do i remove eth2?  eth1 is the one that i have configured in /etc/network/interfaces (and should be)09:20
kingemeralthough the machine did die shortly thereafter, im pretty sure it wasnt ubuntu's fault :-P09:20
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er4z0rhow can i get inetd running on my system?09:20
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er4z0ror rather: how can I install it09:21
persiaer4z0r: You probably want inetutils-inetd09:21
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er4z0rpersia: any clue why this isn't installed by default?09:23
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er4z0rpersia: or is it, but only on the server-installation of ubuntu?09:24
persiaer4z0r: The default configuration includes as few network daemons as possible, to improve security.09:24
x[BrB] xwhat does this mean >>>>>>> Setting up gstreamer0.8-plugins (0.8.11-0ubuntu3) ...09:24
x[BrB] xW: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_09:24
er4z0rpersia: yeah noticed sshd missing either. thanks for your hint09:25
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station4punyeta kau09:26
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cevizogluhow do I put gvim into my gnome menu?09:27
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Cryptidhow to i get BMP to play .wma files is there a plugin for it????09:31
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creart_hi all... which program should i use to nake a virtual cd drive?09:32
kevoranyone here with VPN knowledge?09:32
johndarkhorseCryptid: you need w32codecs09:32
johndarkhorse!codecs09:32
ubotufrom memory, codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats09:32
kevortrying to setup a VPN connection, but it's not working09:32
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kevorUsing pptpconfig to connect to a vpn, the output of pptpd is: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/pts/709:33
kevorMPPE required, but MS-CHAP[v2]  auth not performed.09:33
kevorConnection terminated.09:33
kevorwhat's failing here?09:33
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x[BrB] xi cant play my mp3 files09:35
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Cryptidjohndarkhorse, i have them but still it dosent work09:35
Cryptidjohndarkhorse, ok its working thanx09:36
volvoguypardon my bad memory. is the person that suggested "gpart" for a hard drive problem last night around here tonight?09:36
x[BrB] xplay mp309:37
Belutzmy friend just ask me, he use slow dial-up with ubuntu, and he can't get the app from repos, can he download the packages in the repos manually?09:37
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x[BrB] xbelutz i still cant play my mp3 files :(09:38
Belutzx[BrB] x: wait09:39
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Belutzx[BrB] x: just got home from campus :p09:39
gn0meHmm. I can't seem to mount a FAT32 partition for users to write to.. I set rw,umask=000 .. anyone know what the other options should be?09:39
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lastnode|grubgn0me, vfat09:39
smurfix*Grumble* my (GNOME) system beeps irregularly. Anybody know how to find out which program is responsible?09:39
gn0melastnode|grub: Using that09:40
x[BrB] xlol09:40
gn0meIt opens and reads, but can't write09:40
lastnode|grubgn0me, it should boot then09:40
lastnode|grubi use09:40
lastnode|grubdefaults,umask=009:40
gn0mek09:40
lastnode|grub*mount09:40
persiaBelutz: The applications can be downloaded manually, but there will be no dependency support.  Dial-up users are usually better supported with apt-zip to collect things for them.09:40
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Belutzpersia: ok, i'll tell him09:41
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Belutzx[BrB] x: have you installed gstreamer0.8-mad ?09:42
creart_could someone give me a link, to an installation in linux guide?09:42
x[BrB] xi forgot already09:42
x[BrB] xhehehe09:42
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Belutzhehehe09:43
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x[BrB] xwhat should i do belutz09:44
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persiacreart_: Are you looking for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation?09:45
Belutzx[BrB] x: sudo apt-get gstreamer0.8-mad ?09:46
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johndarkhorseBelutz: nalioth sends regards09:47
Belutzjohndarkhorse: thx :) where is he?09:49
x[BrB] xbelutz W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems09:49
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Belutzx[BrB] x: do you enable the universe/multiverse repos ?09:49
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Belutzjohndarkhorse: hahahaha :D09:50
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Belutzjohndarkhorse: are you always on PPC?09:50
x[BrB] xbelutz im not sure... how would i know??09:50
johndarkhorseBelutz: i only own ppc boxen09:50
cevizoglujohndarkhorse: good  :)09:51
johndarkhorsex[BrB] x: enable uni and multi repos, you'll be glad you did09:51
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Belutzx[BrB] x: check your /etc/apt/sources.lits and uncomment all the repos09:51
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geezwhats the command to reconfigure xserver-xorg?09:52
persiageez: `sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`09:52
pc11hello there.09:52
geezpersia: ah thanks, i was trying dpkg --reconfigure09:52
x[BrB] xbelutz where do i'll check that09:53
pc11I'm really having a hard time installing programs in ubuntu.09:53
persiageez: Maybe someday that will work :)  It's been a wishlist bug for years.09:53
Belutzx[BrB] x: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list from terminal09:53
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h4zn__Does anyone know how to tell if a laptop has wireless conections09:54
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Belutzsmurfix: sorry to pm you without permission, i want to talk about LoCo team?09:54
smurfixBelutz: #ubuntu-locoteams09:54
Belutzsmurfix: ok09:54
x[BrB] xbelutz a window pup uo sources list09:55
x[BrB] xthen whats next?09:55
volvoguyfinal plea. anyone familiar with the "gpart" tool? :-)09:55
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Belutzx[BrB] x: read the text, and uncomment the universe/multiverse repos09:56
h4zn__Does anyone know how to tell if a laptop has wireless conections09:56
johndarkhorsevolvoguy: you need to ask in here during the daytime (US) when every1 is at their work shirking in here09:56
x[BrB] xdeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908)] / breezy main restricted universe multiverse09:56
volvoguyh4zn__, did you ask that last night?09:56
cevizogluh4zn__, iwconfig09:56
volvoguyjohndarkhorse, but i SLEEP during the daytime. :-)09:57
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volvoguyi'll try nonetheless. see ya'll tomorrow!09:57
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x[BrB] xbelutz how should i know if the text are comments?09:58
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Belutzx[BrB] x: the one begins with # is commented09:58
Belutzx[BrB] x: why dont you paste your source.list into the pastebin and i'll edit it for you :)09:59
x[BrB] xbelutz so i'll just remove all the text that begins with #09:59
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cevizogluubuntu isn't using enough hard disk space.  can anyone help me?09:59
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x[BrB] xdamn..... where can i see the pastebin???09:59
x[BrB] xhahahah09:59
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h4zn__this is just a general question..it is for a friends and he has win xp09:59
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Belutzx[BrB] x: paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:00
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x[BrB] xbelutz then.. i'll just copy it?10:02
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Belutzx[BrB] x: yup10:02
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TokenBadwhat was command to see hard drive space again?10:03
zcat[1] 'df'10:03
persiaTokenBad: df -k10:03
x[BrB] xim done10:03
hungsolowanybody have a free second or two -- got a problem I can't find a solution for anywhere and I think it might be something I've overlooked10:03
Belutzx[BrB] x: paste the url in here10:03
x[BrB] xbelutz whats next sir?10:03
johndarkhorseTokenBad: install 'discus' or 'xdiskusage' and make it easy on yourself10:03
charlottehgjkyy10:03
Belutzx[BrB] x: don't call me sir :D10:04
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x[BrB] xhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/233910:04
=== x[BrB] x totally amazed
Belutzx[BrB] x: ok wait10:05
Belutzx[BrB] x: omg are you using breezy??10:05
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x[BrB] xbelutz how i wish i have the same knowledge about linux ;(10:05
er4z0r_afkhungsolow: don't ask to ask questions. Just do it10:05
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x[BrB] xyap10:05
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earth4hello10:05
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warren_hello10:06
x[BrB] xbelutz yes im using breezy10:06
ColonelKernelmy god make-kpkg takes a long time10:06
warren_we're Filipino your fellow ubuntu user10:06
kevenhi10:06
warren_we need help10:06
warren_hi keven10:06
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earth4wanna help me10:06
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TokenBadthanks persia and johndarkhorse10:06
hungsolowsorry didn't want to interrupt -- I just went through installing java according to guides and now synaptic won't work and I keep getting an error "E: The package ibmjava2-142-ppc32-sdk needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."10:07
Belutzx[BrB] x: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2340 <--- i'll already edited it10:07
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symbionthi, trying to setup 5.1 but the partitioning stuff is not functioning, i'm using vmware to install over a 4.1 setup10:07
er4z0rhungsolow: How does the guide tell to install it?10:07
er4z0rhungsolow: I use java-packge thats usually fine for me10:08
johndarkhorsehungsolow: do you have the ibmjava pkg on your hard disc somewhere?10:08
brownie17does somebody mind telling me a little about the audio ripping proccess? i.e. without encoding, would an album be 600 meg? what is a good ripper?10:08
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x[BrB] xgot it10:08
papa_at_39hi I trying to setup 5.04 but do not like the gnome default desktop size of 1024x76810:08
johndarkhorsebrownie17: again, a half answer: grip is a good ripper10:08
er4z0rnmap shows both 5900 and 5901 open (scannend from server itself)10:08
zcat[1] brownie17: Sound Juicer .. 600M as wav file, about 300 as FLAC,10:09
johndarkhorsebrownie17: uncompressed audio usually runs about 10mb per minute of song10:09
papa_at_39how to we change the default desktop to 800x600 ?10:09
x[BrB] xbelutz i've paste it already :)10:09
Belutzx[BrB] x: great10:09
symbiontdid partitioner work for everyone else in 5.1?10:09
pipounpapa_at_39, you have to edit the xorg.conf file or there an appl which doest that without rebooting10:09
zcat[1] and about 30-150 as mp3 depending how much you squash it.10:09
warren_hello people10:09
johndarkhorsepapa_at_39: System > prefs > resolution10:09
warren_we just run out of time10:09
warren_please help us to install the client server configuration10:09
warren_we just shift to ubuntu10:10
persiaer4z0r: What sort of problem are you having with your vnc server again?10:10
brownie17johndarkhorse, so another question, if i were to put a cd i know has audio on it, but the computer is only recognising the data, what could i do?10:10
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warren_we don't know to configure it10:10
johndarkhorsebrownie17: use grip on the audio portion10:10
papa_at_39johndarkhorse: i'll try ur suggestion, wait a moment...10:10
warren_we're just so attached with microsoft10:10
warren_and now10:10
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hungsolowjohndarkhorse: yeah I've still got it -- it had me use the fakeroot alien to cnvert the rpm file10:10
warren_we don't know what to do10:10
brownie17johndarkhorse, but Grip does not recognise audio either10:10
er4z0rpersia: well, I can not connect to it from my windows box (used 2 different clients)10:10
mariannehi10:11
er4z0rpersia: I used a howto from the forums10:11
johndarkhorsehungsolow: then open a terminal where the ibm pkg is and use dpkg to reinstall it10:11
zcat[1] what's the CD?10:11
x[BrB] xbelutz W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908) breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Preview%20i386%20(20050908)_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:11
er4z0rpersia: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=175129410:11
brownie17zcat[1] , it is "the very best of led zeppelin"10:11
persiaer4z0r: You can ping ubuntu from windows, right?  Also, does the output of netstat -ntlp include the port to which you are trying to attach?  If so, it it open from your vnc server?10:11
johndarkhorsex[BrB] x: you'll be getting that a lot10:11
johndarkhorsex[BrB] x: breezy is still not ready10:11
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Belutzx[BrB] x: hmm you can't comment the cd-rom repos10:12
Belutzx[BrB] x: i mean you can comment the cdrom repos10:12
x[BrB] xso what will i do?10:12
er4z0rpersia: I scanned my vnc-server with nmap and they show up as open10:12
johndarkhorsex[BrB] x: try again later to update10:12
Belutzx[BrB] x: hmm i'm still using hoary, haven't got guts to move to breezy yet10:13
Belutz:D10:13
x[BrB] x:(10:13
geezi installed gdm, xfce4, and xserver-xorg but when i try to get to gdm it says 'i cannot start the x server. it is likely it is not setup correctly. would you like to view the x server output to diagnose the problem' yes-no, but i cant select yes or no with the keyboard any idas10:13
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persiaer4z0r: Which vnc server?10:13
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x[BrB] xim really getting confused with linux10:13
x[BrB] xhuhuhu10:13
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er4z0rpersia: vnc4server10:13
Belutzx[BrB] x: don't be :D10:14
brownie17johndarkhorse, if i give you a pastebin screenshot of my grip window and my "computer" window, will you please tell me what the label is for my dvd drive? because i think it isn't working in Grip becasue it's default is my other cd drive10:14
zcat[1] I installed breezy on the kid's PPC .. works like a dream. Now I have breezy kubuntu on it10:14
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cevizoglujohndarkhorse: I moved my powerbook to breezy two days ago and I had zero problems10:14
er4z0rpersia: tcp6       0      0 :::5900                 :::*                    LISTEN     5685/inetutils-inet10:14
zcat[1] I'm gonna love installing breezy when it goes to release..10:14
x[BrB] xW: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908) breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Preview%20i386%20(20050908)_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)10:14
er4z0rpersia: thats what netstat sais, and ping also works properly10:14
johndarkhorsex[BrB] x: quit pasting in here please10:15
x[BrB] xsorry10:15
johndarkhorsebrownie17: please do10:15
persiaer4z0r: You've picked a server I can't install here.  Sorry I can't help more.10:15
mariannehhi10:15
x[BrB] xso what's the best thing i have to do?? try to update later??10:15
mariannehowna10:16
johndarkhorsex[BrB] x: yes10:16
er4z0rpersia: :(10:16
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mariannehi what na10:16
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zcat[1] na ?10:16
johndarkhorsecevizoglu: i installed breezy last week on my ibook and it was challenging to recover from it10:16
persiaer4z0r: You might try taking a look around the package (especially in /usr/share/doc/vnc4server/ to see where the logs are kept.  It should either show something (perhaps useful) or indicate that although the port is open, the server isn't seeing the connection.10:16
marianneok ka lng10:16
mariannehow old na u?10:17
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papa_at_39johndarkhorse: thanks a lot, i got my desktop to 800x600 already.10:17
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johndarkhorsepapa_at_39: np10:17
Vampis800x600 is the shit :P10:17
johndarkhorsetagalog in #ubuntu-ph10:17
cevizoglujohndarkhorse, in what way?  I couldn't get nalioth to tell me what trouble he had10:17
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papa_at_39johndarkhorse: u mean there is a 5.1 ubuntu, my 5.04 just got installed moments ago!10:17
marianneiam 7810:18
johndarkhorsepapa_at_39: it's ok. upgrading is seamless10:18
marianneu10:18
johndarkhorsepapa_at_39: official release date is oct 1310:18
x[BrB] xjohndarkhorse but it says that my breezy is upto date] 10:18
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marianneikdtriykyu10:18
johndarkhorsex[BrB] x: it is lying. it wont be up to date until oct 1310:18
marianneku6or10:18
papa_at_39ok, so u mean breezy (5.1) is still beta ?10:18
johndarkhorsegood thing too10:18
cevizoglupapa_at_39, yes10:18
brownie17johndarkhorse, is pastebin down!?!?!10:18
zcat[1] 5.10 (the 10 means October)10:18
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johndarkhorsebrownie17: idk10:19
x[BrB] xdami palang pinoy d210:19
x[BrB] x:)10:19
papa_at_39i'd rather with my 5.04, i believe in being content...hehehehe10:19
x[BrB] xhow can i play my movie files10:20
zcat[1] I'm not going to upgrade my main box till it's out, but I've been playing with breezy on the kid's box.10:20
papa_at_39hi <x[BrB] x> ! kababayan ko...I'm from Oroquieta City, Mindanao, Phils10:20
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johndarkhorsepapa_at_39: ubuntu releases every 6 months10:20
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x[BrB] xpapa_at_39 im from cavite dude10:20
x[BrB] x:)10:20
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johndarkhorsepapa_at_39: x[BrB] x in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-ph please10:20
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papa_at_39Mine just got installed, because of impending Microsoft / BSA raid in our place10:21
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x[BrB] xhow can i play my movie files10:21
tskhellow10:21
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marc`i downloaded a theme and it didnt install, where do i extract it to?10:21
after8!tell x[BrB] x about restricted10:21
marc`downloaded a .jar file10:21
Belutzx[BrB] x: since you're using breezy, i can't help you10:21
papa_at_39how's the BSA / Microsoft / NBI doing in Cavite, dude ?10:21
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zcat[1] where is Cavite?10:22
ishaiwhere can I find the option for devfs in the kernel config?10:22
disgrunt_ledhas anyone elses mdsum /dev/cdrom stopped working after last apt-get upgrade10:22
disgrunt_led?10:22
disgrunt_led*md5sum10:22
zcat[1] I wouldn't want the BSA snooping around up my Cavite..10:22
after8papa_at_39> we all have our reasons for turning to linux :D10:22
warren_may alam ba kayo sa inspection ng NBI sa mga pirited ng OS?10:22
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warren_papa_at_3910:23
marc`where do i extract firefox themes?10:23
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johndarkhorsetagalog in #ubuntu-ph, please guys10:24
beti8gfgfg10:24
zcat[1] usually you just go back to the theme manager and pick 'use this theme'10:24
beti8tagalogba10:24
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warren_opo10:24
ishaiwhere can I find the option for devfs in the kernel config?10:24
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warren_install kami ng ubuntu pano10:24
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marc`i click install on the addons.mozilla page and it downloaded a .jar file10:24
disgrunt_ledunder filesystems10:24
gunzahi benji10:24
disgrunt_ledi think10:24
warren_running na yung server namin10:24
jsgotangcoif you want to talk in tagalog or in the philippines, please go to #ubuntu-ph instead of asking in tagalog here10:25
warren_tulong naman sa mga client10:25
station08hi everu10:25
Belutzenglish please10:25
station08hi every110:25
warren_ok sorry10:25
disgrunt_ledhello10:25
gunzahi Benji10:25
beti8bakit ano ba ang problema10:25
gunzahow areyou10:25
gunzalong time10:25
Belutzbeti8: english please10:25
jsgotangcobeti8, english only please10:25
station08pede simali s in u jan10:25
Belutzwew10:25
jsgotangcostation08, english only please10:25
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madsabanyone had problems with gcc? I get "C compiler cannot create executables"10:25
Belutzno one are listening10:25
beti8englich language ok10:25
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ishaiwhere can I find the option for devfs in the kernel config?10:26
warren_ok sorry if i speak tagalog...im' just a beginner10:26
station08bkit taga san ba kau\10:26
johndarkhorsemadsab: have you installed "build-essential"/10:26
jsgotangcoTAGALOG speakers PLEASE move to #ubuntu-ph10:26
station08bt klangan ng english10:26
persiaishai: You really don't want that for Ubuntu.  Everything is configured for udev.10:26
Belutzwarren_: i'm a beginner too and my english is not good enough too10:26
disgrunt_ledsomeone kick'em10:26
madsabhmm let me see10:26
johndarkhorsetagalog in #ubuntu-ph please10:26
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ishaipersia vanilla kernels just work like crap on ubuntu10:26
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marc`!tell marc` mp310:27
ishaifor some reason its looking for devfs10:27
marc`!tell marc` about mp310:27
disgrunt_ledlater homies :-P10:27
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johndarkhorsespambots10:28
madsabjohndarkhouse: no thanks. I will try that10:28
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madsabjohndarkhouse: Thanks, that solved my problem10:29
priestI'm running Breezy and after an upgrade i can't boot, I'm getting this error: "/init:64 Syntax error: 0x   Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!" I have tried 2 diffrent kernels and i have rerunned grub-install. Someone know something to do?10:30
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nimrahello there, is there anybody who can help me with POWER PC support?10:31
persianimra: You'd do best just to ask.10:31
nimraI have a Power Macintosh G3 (beige) running Mac OS 9.2 and I'm trying to boot the live CD of 5.0410:32
johndarkhorsenimra: and?10:33
nimrait won't boot from the cd... i've read through a bit of the user manual but none of the boot commands work10:34
zcat[1] You can't boot the live CD on an OldWorld mac10:34
brownie17priest, probably an install problem, did it go to the second stage the FIRST time you rebooted after the first stage of install?10:34
johndarkhorsenimra: thank zcat[1]  for his info10:34
nimrareally? damn, thank you10:34
zcat[1] http://wlug.org.nz/UbuntuOnOldWorldPPC10:35
zcat[1] Technically you could boot it, but you'd have to install BootX, copy the kernel over, yada yada..10:35
priestbrownie17, i wasn't upgrading -to- breezy, i already run breeze, it just stoped work after an ordinary upgrade.10:36
brownie17priest, ok, sorry10:36
brownie17zcat[1] , what other way can you install ubunutu?10:36
johndarkhorsebrownie17: on an old world mac, you have to install it, not run the livecd10:36
brownie17zcat[1] , i mean without booting, how cna you install ubuntu10:36
brownie17johndarkhorse, oh ok, so install boot works fine?10:36
zcat[1] Follow the wiki howto10:37
johndarkhorsebrownie17: yes, with the steps zcat[1]  pointed out in the wiki10:37
nimrathank you for your help, another question... i have a pentium4 premade computer and my C-Media soundcard wont work, (or on knoppix) but it works on Fedora Core 4, any help?10:37
brownie17johndarkhorse, i dont have a ppc, i'm just interested10:37
zcat[1] You have to use BootX to get the kernel loaded, after that everything works the same way as a regular boot.10:38
cevizoglubrownie17, you're planning to buy an old-world mac?10:38
nimrathanks, i'm reading through it now10:38
zcat[1] nimra: Find out what module(s) FC4 loads to make it work, and add that to /etc/modules10:39
zcat[1] usually that's all you need..10:39
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pipoundo you know where I can find some themes for xmms? I've already been on xmms.org an freshmeat10:40
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brownie17cevizoglu, nah, just asking for interest sake10:40
rabbit78hi10:41
cevizoglubrownie17, it's really annoying for a linux newbie without proper directions, but not too bad otherwise.  you fake out a mac os system which is really yaboot10:41
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brownie17cevizoglu, oh ok. yeah, without all the internet linux documentation and ubuntu, there amount of people using linux for everyday use would probably be halved10:43
brownie17gtg10:43
rabbit78I updated to breezy-preview (via dist-upgrade). However, the usplash does not work out of the box. Am I missing a setting?10:44
cevizogluwow, freedoom works on breezy.  sweet  :D10:44
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klepasany chance of turning off the action sounds in breezy beta?10:45
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Viking667Got a quick question I don't know the answer to. What's the equivalent to update-menus for updating the Gnome menu? The reason I ask is because I've added some apps but they're not turning up in my menus.10:50
johndarkhorseViking667: if they are console apps, they wont show up10:50
johndarkhorseViking667: and usually you need to kill your gnome-panel or log out and back in to see the entries10:51
Viking667they're not. They're X clients, some of them gtk10:51
Viking667I logged out, logged in. Hell, I even rebooted.10:51
johndarkhorseViking667: then it depends on if the packagers wrote the script to install to the menu10:51
johndarkhorseViking667: hoary or breezy?10:51
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Viking667Hoary, with everything updated except for openoffice.10:52
johndarkhorse!tell Viking667 about smeg10:52
Viking667oh, and lots of stuff from <universe>10:52
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johndarkhorseViking667: i recommend you use the installsmeg script from the homepage10:52
Viking667ah huh. I'll take a look at that.10:52
Viking667thank you.10:52
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agrisbI am not sure is this a right place for that question, but after installing usplash how can i make it work?10:53
shawarmaagrisb: dpkg-reconfigure your linux-image10:54
gfunckers#ubuntu-ph10:54
shawarmaagrisb: That'll include it in you initrd image.10:54
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agrisbshawarma: - Thanks!!!10:54
shawarmaagrisb: Any time10:55
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cute_bettong!repos10:55
uboturepos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96910:55
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beerockxscan anyone help me to install the sun java sdk?10:56
shawarmabeerockxs: Add multiverse to your sources.list10:58
Viking667heh - multiverse? lol. I'm just getting used to universe.10:58
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shawarmaViking667: Heh...10:59
johndarkhorseViking667: install uni and multi, you'll be glad you did10:59
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beerockxsI have multiverse in sources.list10:59
x[BrB] xhow can i use yahoo messenger ?10:59
Viking667what's in multi that's not in uni, apart from java...?10:59
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beerockxsbut I still can't find the j2se11:00
shawarmabeerockxs: j2sdk1.511:00
sleptI'm looking for a quick way to split an 60mb archive to files with size round 3mb11:00
shawarmaViking667: Stuff with restrictive licenses.11:00
johndarkhorseViking667: add it and you'll see the wonders11:00
beerockxsapt-cache search j2sdk1.5 finds nothing11:00
Viking667right.11:00
shawarmabeerockxs: Have you added multiverse?11:00
beerockxsi did11:00
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beerockxsdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multiverse11:01
shawarmabeerockxs: How about j2sdk1.4 ?11:01
pcharkyHello people, got a little problem. For some obscure reason (seems out of the blue) xorg won't start, and locks my entire pc. The logs say "Caught signal 11. Server aborting". Can anybody help me11:01
Viking667o.11:01
beerockxsshawarma: even searching for "j2s" yields no results11:01
shawarmabeerockxs: Have you run apt-get update ?11:01
beerockxsshawarma: yes.11:01
shawarmabeerockxs: Weirdness.11:02
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x[BrB] xhow can i use yahoo messenger ?11:02
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beerockxsx[BrB] x: use gaim11:02
sleptor to create an archive that is splited into small parts, what is the right expression for that11:02
beerockxsshawarma: isn't acroread in multiverse, too? I do find that, for example11:03
marc`i only have one song at the moment11:03
shawarmabeerockxs: yes, it is.11:03
marc`only file that isnt MP311:03
shawarmabeerockxs: How about apt-cache search java sdk ?11:03
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Viking667err, I suspect he wants the RE, not the SDK11:03
beerockxsshawarma: gives me free-java-sdk and the gcj sdk11:04
priestI'm running Breezy and after an upgrade i can't boot, I'm getting this error: "/init:64 Syntax error: 0x   Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!" I have tried 2 diffrent kernels and i have rerunned grub-install. Someone know something to do?11:04
beerockxsViking667: I do want the SDK.11:04
x[BrB] xbeerockxz theres alot of version of gaim and flatform..  which is which :)11:04
bob2multiverse is for non-free stuff that ubuntu can still legally distribute11:04
Viking667oh. then do you want the 1.4 or the 1.5 one?11:04
bob2java and w32codecs etc do not fit that11:04
beerockxs1.511:04
Viking667mmmm.11:04
bob2in fact, no one can distirbute them, so they're not in any legitmate apt repository11:04
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shawarmabeerockxs: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted11:04
bob2they were in hoary-extras, but were removed the other day for this reason11:04
Viking667then what shawarma suggested.11:04
shawarmabeerockxs: Add that to your sources.list and magic will happen.11:05
Viking667hrm. Hoary-extras?11:05
bob2it's not in hoary-extras anymore11:05
x[BrB] xbeerockxz fedora, mandrake, redhat & etc11:05
beerockxsshawarma: If what bob2  says is correct, it won't. because I do have hoary-extras11:05
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beerockxsx[BrB] x: apt-get install gaim should work11:05
shawarmabob2: It's in  multiverse in breezy...11:05
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beerockxsbob2: So I need to get the rpm from sun and alien it?11:06
bob2shawarma: java is not11:06
bob2beerockxs: no11:06
bob2beerockxs: use make-jpkg or whatever11:06
Viking667Right. I'd better go try out this script11:06
beerockxsbob2: uhh?11:06
shawarmabob2: j2sdk1.4 is.11:07
beerockxsbreezy will have native eclipse, right?11:07
shawarmahttp://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=j2sdk1.4&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all11:07
bob2hm, I guess somsone got permission from blackdown11:07
shawarmabob2: it shows the EULA when installing it.. Maybe that's why it's ok.11:08
shawarmabob2: And you have to accept it before it proceeds with the install11:08
johndarkhorseibm is not sun11:09
Viking667heh. And to think I'm using Eclipse 3.1 on Mandriva and j2sdk1.5.011:09
bob2blackdown is not from ibm11:09
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beerockxsViking667: native Eclipse 3.1, or the normal one?11:09
Viking667normal one. I don't have the room to recompile. I just went and got the bl**dy big tarball, extracted, then ran.11:10
er4z0rok problem again: I am trying to install freenx on breezy like specified in the howto11:10
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er4z0rhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX?highlight=%28freenx%2911:11
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rabbit78dpkg-reconfigure <linux-image> does not find a splash image11:11
er4z0rcould it be that http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ is down?11:11
Viking667And I'm not game to install/recompile Eclipse on this box.11:11
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er4z0rSeveas: can you help me?11:12
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johndarkhorseer4z0r: seveas takes his server offline when he is not here11:13
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er4z0rjohndarkhorse: hmm bad ;( Can anyone tell me a better source for freenx?11:14
johndarkhorseer4z0r: if you wait a few hours, you can get it from Seveas11:14
er4z0rbtw. why specify a host in a wiki-howto which isn't reachable all the time11:14
johndarkhorseer4z0r: that is being rectified11:14
er4z0rjohndarkhorse: thanks11:15
er4z0rjohndarkhorse: hmm well I'll try to put it up11:15
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er4z0rjohndarkhorse: doing this for work, so its always a bit shitty to explain things like this to your boss11:16
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rabbit78which package contains an actual splash image for usplash?11:16
bob2I'm pretty sure the warning you're looking at is a red herring11:17
Viking667Right. I must depart.11:17
zcat[1] http://kanotix.com/files/debian/pool/f/freenx/ ?11:17
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Myrttismile, you're on candid camera!11:18
er4z0rzcat[1] : naa, thanks. don't want to mix distros11:18
er4z0rzcat[1] : still, thaks for the link11:18
bob2e.g.11:18
bob2Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...11:18
bob2rabbit78: I get that and still have a splash on boot11:18
zcat[1] you could build from source?11:18
rabbit78bob2: I get that too but have no splash11:19
bob2rabbit78: then it is unrelated11:20
rabbit78bob2: do I need to change some settings after hoary->breezy upgrade?11:20
bob2rabbit78: are you on ppc or amd64?11:20
Myrttihttp://velhottaret.net/~myrtti/19-09-05.png (not that anyone would be interested, and most of you don't get the reference :-D)11:20
rabbit78bob2: no, i38611:21
beerockxsgah11:22
beerockxsrunning just java still gives me gij11:22
Myrttiif however somebody would be interested, here's another link: http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/akivi.htm11:22
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er4z0rzcat[1] : not familiar with debian-packaging. I'll just wait11:24
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CrTrhow to change my kbd layout ?11:30
[LethAL] CrTr, System, Preferences, Keyboard11:30
Da_SWAThow do I start the device manager from console?11:30
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CrTr[LethAL] ,  by console ?11:31
[LethAL] CrTr, the only way I know is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:31
[LethAL] Da_SWAT, hal-device-manager11:31
Da_SWATthnx :)11:32
rabbit78so, no way to get my usplash working?11:32
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[LethAL] I'd like to know how to as well rabbit7811:33
Da_SWATDoes anyone in here own a DVD drive from Pioneer? (I have a DVR-108) It's not recognized (special device not found @ boot) at all. Any pointers?11:33
[LethAL] Da_SWAT, Does is work in Winblows?11:34
[LethAL] it*11:34
Da_SWAT[LethAL] , yes11:34
[LethAL] O.o11:35
Da_SWATI've even started a topic on this |---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34516&page=311:35
[LethAL] lol11:35
Da_SWATI'm just hoping that it will be resolved in the breezy release, but I won't bet my money on it. It just sucks that I MUST boot to Windows to burn anything here11:36
after8rabbit78> you mean a splash image when you choosewhat to boot?11:36
ompaulDa_SWAT, are u running Hoary at the moment?11:37
Da_SWATompaul, yes11:37
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ompaulDa_SWAT, have you got a CD that we could play with and maybe turn into a coaster if it does not work?11:38
rabbit78after8: no, an usplash image11:38
ompaulDa_SWAT, (doh) does work?11:38
Da_SWAT:-P11:39
MadpilotDa_SWAT: I've got a Poineer 109, and it works fine in Ubuntu...11:39
Da_SWATMadpilot, hmmmmm.....11:39
Da_SWATit's that my drive isn't even showing up in the device manager!11:39
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ompaulDa_SWAT, if your interested please paste the contents of /etc/fstab into paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:40
ompaulDa_SWAT, then I will guess if I can do anything or not11:40
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Antiliishi!11:41
[LethAL] Yello11:41
AntiliisI have a problem with text-mode console11:42
MadpilotDa_SWAT: I actually bought this DVR-109 after I switched completely to Ubuntu; it plays & burns fine...11:42
AntiliisI'm Spanish and I use accented keys, like 11:42
Antiliisbut this characters doesn't appears in the text-mode console11:42
Antiliisthe problem is in Hoary and Breezy, too11:42
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Da_SWATompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/234211:42
Antiliisanyone can help me?11:42
after8Antiliis> have you set locales correctly?   sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales11:43
ompaulDa_SWAT, so where is the hard drive?11:43
Antiliisyes, perfectly. My locale is es_ES.UTF-811:43
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hansi_xpnewbie question: no dvd sound playback - can somebody help me please?11:43
shawarmaAntiliis: Try dpkg-reconfigure console-data11:43
Da_SWATompaul, I took those parts out, because they work just fine.11:43
Antiliisshawarma, mmm ok, I try this now11:44
zcat[1] so you have two cdrom's and a burner?11:44
ompaulokay - so my next qestion have you got anything inthe burner drive?11:44
ompaulDa_SWAT,  that we could burn to11:44
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Da_SWATompaul, especially for you    http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/234311:45
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geezwhatup ompaul11:45
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hansi_xpwho knows how to use mplayer?11:45
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zcat[1] do the other two cd drives work normally?11:46
Antiliisshawarma, thanks for the tip, but it didn't work11:46
ompaulgeez, I am going to insall you on a mainframe with so many acls that you will never ever be able to change you nick again :) other than that its good11:46
Antiliisshawarma, I tried all the chances, but without success11:46
Antiliisshawarma, I think the problem is in the keyboard. showcfont shows all the characters correctly (including the accented ones)11:47
bob2hansi_xp: you run it like any other program11:47
after8hansi_xp> do you have sound enabled otherwise? does it work elsewhere than mplayer?11:47
hansi_xpi can't listen to dvd's but i can play video clips11:47
shawarmaAntiliis: Oh, right. 2 secs.11:48
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hansi_xpsame deal with vlc player, dvd has no sound11:48
ompaulDa_SWAT, tell me have you got a disk there we can use to test my brilliant theorys (at least thats what they will be if this works)11:48
shawarmaAntiliis: dpkg-reconfigure console-common11:48
Antiliisshawarma, mmmm ok, i'm going of it now11:48
Da_SWATompaul, I have a lot of empty cd's here, so I have stuff to burn. But first ubuntu needs to recognize the drive11:49
after8hansi_xp> but otherwise, sound works fine with other apps?11:49
hansi_xpyep, xmms i had to use the esound output, so i run mplayer -ao esd and it works for small video clips, just not dvd11:50
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hansi_xpi have to run mplayer dvd://1 -nosound for dvd to play at all11:50
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Jacko115HELP! I am trying to sync my Zire 21 through USB with Gnome pilot, but when i try and sync it for the first time nothing happens. How do I know what port thing I should be selecting?11:51
shawarmahansi_xp: In hoary, right?11:51
Antiliisshawarma, sorry, it does nothing :(11:51
ompaulDa_SWAT, but first nothing - have you an iso you want worked with - not audio as iso11:51
hansi_xpi think so11:51
ompaulDa_SWAT, an iso11:51
Antiliisshawarma, it says: 'Looking for keymap to install: es'11:51
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ompaulDa_SWAT, or will we make one for testing11:51
shawarmaAntiliis: Did you run /etc/init.d/keymap.sh after running dpkg-reconfigure console-data11:51
Da_SWATuhm.... I'll have a quick look see11:51
Antiliisshawarma, I'm going to do now11:51
Da_SWATompaul, I think I have one hanging around11:51
ompaulDa_SWAT, lets make one11:52
ompaulDa_SWAT, it is easy11:52
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[LethAL] Could someone please explain why various GTK apps don't look like GTK apps?11:52
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Marrukhello I'm having trouble partitioning my hd11:52
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Da_SWATompaul, ROFL. Found a ISO (UBCD) So I'm good to go11:53
zcat[1] what kind of trouble?11:53
ompaulDa_SWAT, have you got any files on your desktop?11:53
hansi_xpmplayer gives me crashed by signal 11, if i try and use the -ao esd stuff11:53
Da_SWATompaul, yeah11:53
Marrukzcat[1] , i run window's and i dont have enough free space so i tried to resize my ntfs formatted partition but nothin happens!11:53
zcat[1] ahhh.. that's trouble.11:54
Marrukand ... i dont wanna delete windows11:54
hansi_xpAnybody got any idea's why dvd wouldn't play sound?11:54
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Marrukso i dont think i will be able to install on a seperate parition11:54
ompaulDa_SWAT, okay, start a terminal & do this >> tar  cvf desk.tar Desktop/11:54
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Marrukzcat[1]  i dont think i will do that becuase i dont know if i like linux and i have alot of important stuff on windows11:55
Marrukanyway11:55
zcat[1] You could reinstall windows on a smaller partition and then install ubuntu.. but I would not recommend trying to resize an NTFS partition.11:55
[LethAL] Marruk, Try a live CD11:55
Antiliisshawarma, I tried this, I run /etc/init.d/keymap.sh after dpkg-reconfigure console-data, but the problem remains11:55
ompaulhansi_xp, before that gets answered (most likely not by me) do you have other sound running11:55
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Antiliisshawarma, I think this is a problem with Unicode11:55
hansi_xpompaul: no11:55
Marruk[LethAL]  i have tried a liveCD before they run extemly slow11:55
Antiliisshawarma, (in Debian that problem doesn't exists)11:56
Kalidarncan i use old backports for hoary on breezy preview?11:56
[LethAL] Marruk, I know11:56
zcat[1] Get a second drive, they're cheap!11:56
ompaulhansi_xp, so it is a sound issue not a sound with DVD issue11:56
marc`where to install a theme for firefox? .jar fie11:56
Marruki dont get it11:56
marc`faile11:56
johndarkhorseKalidarn: backports ARE the same versions as are in breezy11:56
marc`file*11:56
Kalidarnah perfect.11:56
johndarkhorseKalidarn: BACKports (from breezy)11:56
hansi_xpompau: but xmms works, and mplayer works with video clips with sound good11:56
Marrukwhen i installed Mandrivia , it resized and created a new partition11:56
ompaulhansi_xp, so you have sound running just not with the DVD11:56
hansi_xpompaul: yep11:57
Kalidarnhmm then where would Azureus be stored, it was on hoary im pretty sure. not in the breezy repo though11:57
zcat[1] Marruk: you were lucky..11:57
Marrukzcat[1]  i spose i was11:57
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bob2so11:57
johndarkhorse!info azureus11:57
ompaulhansi_xp, I was bitten by that before - then all I got to ask is have you all the varios codecs that you need installed?11:57
Kalidarninstalling the package is a pain in the arse ;)11:57
bob2azureus is not a backport of anything11:57
Kalidarn!info azureus11:57
bob2it's a random new package11:57
bob2I wish they hadn't mixed up the repositories like that11:57
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Kalidarn!info azureus11:58
marc`anyone?11:58
Da_SWATompaul, done (sorry for the delay)11:58
Kalidarnlol i could have been told that from http://packages.ubuntu.com/11:58
zcat[1] not sure what ubuntu will let you do about resizing, apparently it's possible but I would never recommend it, very high chance of messing up windows.11:59
Kalidarnit was in the old repository though "apparently" and i know for a fact its in the debian one11:59
johndarkhorseKalidarn: just d/l it from azureus.sourceforge.net11:59
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MarrukWell thanks anyway guys no ubuntu for me11:59
hansi_xpompaul: would you know which one i need for dvd :D12:00
Kalidarnjohndarkhorse: done but it aint working and thats why i attempted this method ;) or attempted to find out why.12:00
ompaulDa_SWAT, ls -alh desk.tar show a size greater than the size of a CD ?12:00
johndarkhorseKalidarn: is it a java problem?12:00
johndarkhorseKalidarn: java is evil12:00
Da_SWATompaul, no12:01
ompaulhansi_xp, I will get the bot to give you a web page with more codecs than you can shake a stick at :)12:01
ompaul!tell hansi_xp about restricted12:01
Jacko115what would be the /dev/... thing for this if I used the command lsusb? Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0830:0060 Palm, Inc. Palm Tungsten T / Zire 7112:01
Kalidarnyes and i have set up java properly symbolic links etc works in firefox ;)12:01
ompaulDa_SWAT, good we may proceed do this in your terminal >> mkisofs -o my.iso desk.tar12:01
johndarkhorseKalidarn: do other java apps work? (not java plugins for browsers)12:01
hansi_xpomppaul: thanks dude, i'll try that now12:02
Kalidarnunfortuantly the Azureus team decided to stray away from the standard DHT networks that the other clients were using and make their own, if the tracker uses the "azureus one" i can only connect to it from azureus12:02
ompaulbob2, any time soon can we declare the 16 hour java ban? ;-)12:02
Kalidarnjohndarkhorse: havnt tried any :) havnt got any installed lol12:02
marc`what is the equivalent of program files?12:02
marc`IE: where is firefox12:02
ompaulie is ireland12:02
[LethAL] lmao12:03
[LethAL] He means that is12:03
Kalidarnuse find :)12:03
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Da_SWATompaul, done12:03
Kalidarnlike windows ;) i am a windows n00b too and i wouldn't ask something like that12:03
ompaul[LethAL] , maybe I was joking12:03
johndarkhorse!tell marc` about equivalents12:03
[LethAL] ompaul, I know ;)12:03
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marc`thanks12:03
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ompaulDa_SWAT, just a moment please brb12:04
Kalidarnis there a request page for stuff to go onto the repository?12:04
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Kalidarnthat would seriously rule a package request page for open sourced apps to be added to the repo12:06
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MadpilotKalidarn: have a look around the Ubuntu wiki, I think it already exists...12:06
nomad1where can i find on configuring grub12:06
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Madpilotnomad1: try "man grub" at a command prompt...12:07
GatoLokosomebody has freepascal working in breezy?12:07
ompaulDa_SWAT, try this NB the use of hdd could be hdc on your machine so if you have nothing in the other drive it will fail in a second and then you can change the hd* setting >>>  cdrecord -pad -eject dev=/dev/hdd my.iso12:08
Seveasmornin' all :)12:08
bob2Kalidarn: you can add them yourself12:08
hansi_xpompau: i got the vlc dvd to play, i found a esd plugin12:08
bob2GatoLoko: if it doesn't work, file a  bug12:08
ompaulMoring Seveas12:08
hansi_xpompaul: i got the vlc dvd to play, i found a esd plugin12:08
GatoLokobob2 freepascal isn't included in breezy12:09
SeveasGatoLoko, get the sources from debian and compile them :)12:09
GatoLokoSeveas freepascal is writen in freepascal12:10
GatoLokoxD12:10
bob2yay pascal12:10
Seveasthen get the debs to to bootstrap it...12:10
ompaul{begin to weep}12:10
GatoLokoi'm trying to make deb packages of freepascal, but it fails to compile12:10
Da_SWATompaul, I'll try it (yet I'll imediately try it with the hdc because that the 'kaput' drive)12:11
Seveasall th build-deps installed?12:11
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johndarkhorseSeveas: you gonna be around in a couple of hours?12:11
SeveasI hope so12:11
GatoLokoand i think there is a problem with libc (in freepascal or in the breezy libc, i dont know yet)12:11
GatoLokoi can compile it in hoary and sarge, but in breezy it fails12:12
Da_SWATompaul, it didnt' work12:12
[LethAL] Anybody know why some of my GTK apps don't look like GTK apps?12:12
bob2e.g...12:12
[LethAL] BitTornado, gtkBitchX...12:12
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Yohohosfameronwhat do they look like?12:13
Juhazthose wouldn't by any chance be gtk1 apps?12:13
[LethAL] Gry and ugly12:13
[LethAL] Grey*12:13
[LethAL] Well, I've seen BitTornado actually look nice here :S12:13
ompaulDa_SWAT, sorry change that to dvdrecord12:13
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Da_SWATompaul, what's the difference with cdrecord?12:14
nomad1i dunno wat im doing12:14
nomad1i really need a help site12:14
SeveasGatoLoko, might be a gcc4 problem12:14
Juhazbittornado is wxpython app, and wx can be compiled to use either gtk1 or gtk212:14
[LethAL] Can I force it to use GTK2?12:14
bob2[LethAL] : bitchx only uses gtk1.212:14
bob2ie you lose12:14
bob2[LethAL] : no12:14
GatoLokoSeveas freepascal don't use gcc for compilation, and i've set it to gcc-3.412:14
Da_SWATompaul, and I don't have dvdrecord on my system (or in my universe). I do have k3b12:14
[LethAL] Fair enough, bitchx isn't a loos to me ;)12:15
[LethAL] lss*12:15
[LethAL] loss*12:15
ompaulDa_SWAT, try to install dvdbackup12:15
Da_SWATompaul, done12:15
GatoLokothe problem start when freepascal try to use de libc mem management (a program that simpli includes de "cmem" unit fails to compile)12:16
ompaulDa_SWAT, the nice thing was in universe :)12:16
bob2that's way way more likely to be a freepascal bug12:16
ompaulDa_SWAT, now try dvdrecord12:16
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Da_SWATompaul, dvdrecord: command not found :P12:16
Da_SWATdvdbackup: A tool to rip DVD's from the command line :P12:17
nomad1please help12:17
nomad1im crap at this12:17
ompaulDa_SWAT, ahh bother112:17
nomad1i dunno how to configure grub at all12:18
nomad1i just need a good link12:18
nomad1cant find anything on the site12:18
thenukeman grub12:18
nomad1then wat12:18
ompaulinfo grub :)12:18
Seveasnomad1, what do you want to accomplish?12:18
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[LethAL] !tell nomad1 about grub12:18
thenukeman grub gives pretty good and simple details for config12:18
bob2hitting enter every two words is not a valid replacement for actually explaining your problem12:18
nomad1set the default os to boot to12:18
[LethAL] nomad1, Open /boot/grub/menu.lst as root12:19
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nomad1ye12:19
nomad1in it12:19
nomad1those links dun help lethal12:20
[LethAL] See the default entry?12:20
nomad1they dun hav wat im looking for12:20
nomad1You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry12:20
nomad1is that the one12:20
[LethAL] Yeah12:20
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Da_SWATompaul, what now?12:20
nomad1ok where do i find the number for wiindows12:20
[LethAL] Change 0 to 4 if you're on hoary12:21
Seveasjust pick a default and set it in the line that starts with default....12:21
Da_SWATMadpilot, does your Pioneer drive have it's own IDE channel or something?12:21
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nomad1im using ubuntu 5.10 preview release12:21
Seveasnomad1, then use the gui...12:22
MadpilotDa_SWAT: It's Master on an IDE cable with my ordinary CD-ROM drive12:22
[LethAL] I think it's 5 or 6... set it to saved and boot into windows12:22
zcat[1] so it's /dev/hdc then..12:22
Da_SWATMadpilot, OK. The same is done here. Just checking12:22
Seveasnomad1, system -> administration -> boot12:22
ompaulDa_SWAT, is that any use?  >> apt-cache show dvdrtools12:22
ompaulReplaces: dvdrecord12:22
Da_SWATompaul, package not found12:23
MadpilotDa_SWAT: I can't remember if the drive jumpers are set to Master/Slave, or if they're both on Cable-Select (they both work, though)12:23
nomad1OH SWEET thx a lot12:23
nomad1legends12:23
[LethAL] lol12:23
zcat[1] Madpilot: can you paste the output of dmesg ?12:23
nomad1do i need to get mp3 plugin for breezy12:23
ompaulDa_SWAT, its in multiverse12:23
zcat[1] sorry, Da_SWAT I mean..12:24
Da_SWATI have universe I think. OK, I'll have to add some things12:24
Madpilotzcat[1] : the whole load of it?12:24
Seveasnomad1, only if you did not yet install it in hoary before you upgraded12:24
Madpilotnomad1: you'll need to install mp3 codecs12:24
nomad1i didnt upgrade lol12:24
nomad1i delete fedora12:24
Madpilot!tell nomad1 about mp312:24
zcat[1] the part that describes /dev/hdc at least12:24
zcat[1] or /dev/hdd, whever12:25
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P-NuTHi all12:25
ompaulnomad1, that is a real upgrade then :)12:25
Seveasnomad1, i'd call that an upgrade ;)12:25
kelmo_laphey P-NuT ; )12:25
P-NuTHey12:25
nomad1i kno lol12:25
nomad1messy fedora12:25
[LethAL] FC isn't that bad...12:25
nomad1too confusing12:25
P-NuTI have an Atheros Wireless nic and am wanting madwifi to work with it,12:25
zcat[1] hdd: LITE-ON COMBO SOHC-5236K, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive12:25
ompaul[LethAL] , its worse12:25
zcat[1] You have a line line that somewhere?12:25
nomad1man its crammed with stuff12:25
SeveasP-NuT, that should work out of the box12:26
nomad1its amazing it never crashed with me12:26
[LethAL] Well, my wireless adapter doesn't crash it.12:26
P-NuTnow I went to the madwifi chatroom and they said that the version that ships with 5.04 is ancient12:26
P-NuTit doesnt12:26
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P-NuTwork12:26
P-NuTout of the box12:26
Da_SWATzcat[1] , my dmesg? |---> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/234412:26
P-NuTdmesg gives me errors12:26
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P-NuTSevas, this is what dmesg says.12:27
P-NuTath_hal: module license 'Proprietary' taints kernel.12:27
P-NuTath_hal: 0.9.12.14 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212)12:27
SeveasP-NuT, put the errors on the pastebin12:27
Seveasthat's not an error :)12:27
P-NuTits only 2 lines though12:27
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P-NuTshould I dump my whole dmesg there?12:28
nomad1if only microsoft allows windows media on linux12:28
SeveasP-NuT, only if it's relevant12:28
Seveasnomad1, mplayer+w32codecs plays windows media just fine12:28
Madpilotnomad1: you can get codecs for wmv, if that's what you mean...12:28
kelmo_laphi, would anyone like to comment on the cross-compatabilty between module-source packages of debian and ubuntu, for example madwifi12:28
zcat[1] hdd: SAMSUNG CDRW/DVD SM-348B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive  <- that's the burner you're trying to use, or the other cd drive?12:28
SeveasP-NuT, what is the real error? no /dev/ath0 ?12:28
Seveaswell, that should not exist12:28
SeveasI mean: no ath0 in ifconfig -a?12:29
Seveaskelmo_lap, do not use debian packages for that.12:29
P-NuTumm..12:29
kelmo_lapSeveas: i have developed madwifi-source for debian12:29
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nomad1u kno how much ive struggled with mplayer12:30
P-NuTwhen i ttype iwconfig theres no ath012:30
P-NuTyeah12:30
kelmo_lapSeveas: and am also interested in offering up-to-date packages for ubuntu users, such as P-Nut12:30
Seveaskelmo_lap, nice, maybe you can help P-NuT then :)12:30
nomad1i kept getting the command line version12:30
Da_SWATzcat[1] , could you please use my name in the lines that are ment for me. It's a bit too much IRC traffic. The samsung is my working one. hdc is my pioneer which isn't even recognized12:30
Seveaskelmo_lap, as a general rule it is advised not to use packages from debian when ubuntu offers packages too12:30
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kelmo_lapyeah, of course12:30
zcat[1] Da_SWAT: ahh, ok.. now I understand.12:30
johndarkhorselater all12:30
kelmo_lapSeveas: the madwifi in ubuntu seems to be quite ancient12:30
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P-NuTSo......12:31
Tomcat_kelmo_lap: Shouldn't be too difficult to get over... I doubt it's 100% compatible though.12:31
Seveasbut offering up-to-date atheros would rock, contact the MOTU/backports team12:31
Madpilotnomad1: use Totem, it plays everything - with the right codecs installed - and is installed by default in Ubuntu...12:31
er4z0rSeveas: is the repository for freenx reachable again?12:31
Seveaser4z0r, yes12:31
Da_SWATompaul, I'm here. dvdrecord is installed12:31
Seveasdeb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas freenx12:31
Seveas(for breezy only)12:31
kelmo_lapTomcat_: ok, any chance you may know some of the small differences?12:31
nomad1well first i want to mount my ntfs partitions12:31
Tomcat_kelmo_lap: No, I'm sorry... haven't done any packaging for Ubuntu.12:31
Da_SWATompaul, dvdrecord. No such file or directory. No read access for 'dev/dev/hdc'.12:32
Seveasnomad1, system -> administration -> disks12:32
MezSeveas - ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com12:32
SeveasMez, merci beaucoup12:32
P-NuTSo umm.. Should I just install breezy or what?12:32
Seveaskelmo_lap, did yoy get that?12:32
Da_SWATzcat[1] , you can also have a look at my ubuntuforums-thread..  |--->  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34516&page=312:32
MezSeveas : np :P I get a ding everytime someone mentiones backports12:32
Seveashehe12:32
kelmo_lapSeveas: a repo?12:32
SeveasI'll abuse that :)12:32
nomad1i cant seem to enable access to my partitions12:33
Seveaskelmo_lap, no, what Mez said12:33
MezSeveas, not If I'm not online you wont12:33
Seveas<Mez> Seveas - ubuntu-backports@lists.ubuntu.com12:33
ompaulDa_SWAT, now do dvdrecord (I am off to make a coffee back in a couple of mins)12:33
Da_SWATompaul, dvdrecord. No such file or directory. No read access for 'dev/dev/hdc'.12:33
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!lilo:*! Services will be restarted in a moment. Apologies for any inconvenience.12:33
SeveasIf you want up-to-date packages to be included in ubuntu backports (which would rock) send them a message12:33
Da_SWATompaul, and the hdc is the one that isn't recognized12:33
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kelmo_lapSeveas: ok, humor me, what is ubuntu-backports goal/directive?12:34
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Mezkelmo: how do you mean?12:34
Seveasexactly what you want, provide more up-to-date packages in a stable release (just like any backport)12:34
kelmo_lapSeveas: like providing updated packages to legacy releases?12:34
Seveasyup12:35
Da_SWATompaul, when will you be back from your coffee break? :D12:35
Mezkelmo_lap, that's exactly what it is :d12:35
BockBilbois it possible to get previous cvs versions of a program using cvs?12:35
SeveasDa_SWAT, when he runs out of coffee ;)12:35
Da_SWATzcat[1] , did you find anything usefull or maybe solutions in my thread etc. ?12:35
Da_SWATSeveas, LOL12:35
kelmo_lapMez: i've never used ubuntu, but would like to provide some basic support with my madiwifi-source package, that could be used with make-kpkg12:36
kelmo_lapi'm not really interested in backporting per-se12:36
P-NuTKelmo, was I just talking to you about this in #madwifi?12:37
kelmo_lapP-NuT: yes12:37
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nomad1how do i login as root12:37
Seveaskelmo_lap, if your more recent debian package works on Ubuntu it's a backport :)12:37
nomad1i dun remember making such settings during ubuntu setup12:37
Seveasnomad1, not12:37
Seveasand you should not need it12:37
Belutz!tell nomad1 about rootsudo12:37
kelmo_lapSeveas: point taken ; )12:38
kelmo_lapnow i just need some testers ; )12:38
P-NuTdude I'm here!12:38
P-NuTif it works I'll use it!12:38
SeveasI'll test (Ubuntu breezy + atheros card here)12:38
[LethAL] lol12:38
P-NuTI'll test hary12:38
[LethAL] Does it work with rt2570-based cards?12:38
kelmo_laphttp://kanotix.com/files/debian/pool/m/madwifi/12:38
nomad1how do u highlight the text u send to me12:38
kelmo_lap[LethAL] : i do a rt2570 package too12:39
Seveasnomad1, that's a secret :)12:39
Belutzi'll test it too, hoary using ipw220012:39
[LethAL] kelmo_lap, And you don't get any crashes when you enable it? :S12:39
kelmo_lapBelutz: hehe, i don't do ipw20012:39
nomad1lol12:39
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- This nickname is owned by someone else12:39
-NickServ(NickServ@services.)- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>12:39
Belutzkelmo_lap: ic, nvm then :D12:39
kelmo_lap[LethAL] : are you on smp kernel?12:39
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[LethAL] kelmo_lap, one mo, but I severly doubt it12:39
Seveaskelmo_lap, is it a standard mosule-assistant thing?12:40
P-NuTSo, why does madwifi wirk for everyone else and not me? Revision of the card>12:40
P-NuT?12:40
kelmo_lapSeveas: mod-ass or make-kpkg, whatever tickles your fancy12:40
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[LethAL] P-NuT, Hehe... I had a similar problem with my ADSL modem ages ago12:40
kelmo_lapP-NuT: the old hal version you currently have probably does not support your card12:40
nomad1u kno in system->administration->disk manager12:40
P-NuToh12:40
P-NuTis this fixed in breezy?12:40
nomad1i set the access path for a partition12:40
kelmo_lapP-NuT: hence the need to update the driver +> new hal12:41
nomad1and then press enable12:41
nomad1but nuthing happens12:41
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[LethAL] kelmo_lap, No, no smp, just 38612:41
SeveasGatoLoko, still there?12:41
GatoLokoSeveas here i am12:41
kelmo_lap[LethAL] : well, rt2570 is quite good here, i am waiting for rt2x00 to improve, then you will have excellent support12:41
[LethAL] Fair dos12:42
[LethAL] I'lll try downloading a new snapshot12:42
SeveasGatoLoko, I just tried to build fpc on breezy, works like a charm12:42
nomad1any tips12:42
GatoLokoargh!12:43
ompaulDa_SWAT,  anytime I feel like it :-) anyway I'm back now12:43
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ompaulDa_SWAT, did u do that with dvdrecord ?12:43
Da_SWATyes12:44
SeveasGatoLoko, if you want the debs: deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas freepascal12:44
Da_SWATompaul, yes12:44
ompaulDa_SWAT, and12:44
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[LethAL] kelmo_lap, Where's the rt2570 package you do?12:44
[LethAL] this*12:44
kelmo_laphttp://kanotix.com/files/debian/pool/r/rt2570/12:44
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GatoLokoSeveas i will kiss you if that works, but somebody tell me that is a problem with MY libs12:44
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Da_SWATompaul, dvdrecord. No such file or directory. No read access for 'dev/dev/hdc'.12:44
zcat[1] Da_SWAT: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-38527.html suggest trying hdc=noprobe hdd=noprobe.12:44
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larsrohdinim having troubles playing dvd:s on mplayer. It gives the error 'Mplayer interupted by signal 11 in module decode:audio' how can I fix it?12:45
ompaulDa_SWAT, come on that was not the command12:45
kelmo_lap[LethAL] : obviously i can't support ubuntu users yet, that why i'm looking for testers, so give it your best shot12:45
Da_SWATthat was the output of the command for dvdrecord12:45
Da_SWATompaul, that was the output of the command for dvdrecord12:45
Seveaslarsrohdin, signal 11 is a segfaulf -- you found an mplayer bug12:45
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ompaulDa_SWAT, this  >>>  dvdrecord -pad -eject dev=/dev/hdd my.iso    <<   note the equals  just in case12:45
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[LethAL] kelmo_lap, Yes, but that package on that pacge only mentioned atheros cards12:46
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Da_SWATzcat[1] , I'll try it (I'm desperate :D)12:46
kelmo_lap[LethAL] : http://kanotix.com/files/debian/pool/r/rt2570/12:46
[LethAL] ty12:46
kelmo_lapno atheros support there12:46
zcat[1] ompaul: I thought we established that the missing drive was definately /dev/hdc (master secondary)12:46
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aftertaflu thoreauputic :) arrrrrrr12:47
larsrohdinSeveas, so does that mean there's nothing I can do?12:47
kelmo_laplots of australian ubuntu users12:47
kelmo_lapgood to see12:47
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ompaulzcat[1] , this is true I was pointing to the original example :) with a minor edit for Da_SWAT to use - however if Da_SWAT was to up arrow we could see the command to be sure12:47
Da_SWATompaul, damn, then I did something wrong. Anyway, my hdc device (pioneer) gives an error. Cannot open /dev/hdc. No such file/direcotry12:47
ProofCan somone help me out?12:47
thoreauputicaftertaf: quite a welcome was that - especially combined with the beep from my client ;)12:48
[LethAL] !helpme12:48
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.12:48
Proof!helpme12:48
Belutz!tell Proof about ask12:48
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aftertafthoreauputic> you got arrrrr in beep words?12:48
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larsrohdinwhat other players are there? for playing dvd:s?12:48
ompaulDa_SWAT, so what is confusing the living ** out of me is what is that /dev/hdc entry in your fstab12:48
Belutzompaul: hai :)12:48
ompaulBelutz, good morning/evening12:49
Belutzompaul: evening in here :)12:49
Belutzompaul: 17:4912:49
Turicashello all..i want to execute an command when system initializes (AFTER ppp connects - in my adsl provider). how i can do it?12:49
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zcat[1] ompaul: yeah, I think there's a kernel bug.. rolling back to 2.6.8 might fix the problem until a better patch comes along..12:50
bob2Turicas: what's the command?12:50
[LethAL] kelmo_lap, You nearby?12:50
aftertafTuricas> maybe add sth to ifup.d script?12:50
kelmo_lap[LethAL] : sup12:50
Da_SWATompaul, I think I made that manually once or something. It SHOULD work this way, yet it doesn't. I've tried countless number of things.... none were succesfull12:50
[LethAL] I installed it and module-assistant12:50
[LethAL] Now what?12:50
ompaulzcat[1] , yuk - I hate backwards :)12:50
Turicasaftertaf, what?? excuse me, but i'm newbie on linux :(12:50
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thoreauputicaftertaf: arrrrrrrrr! She be breakin up, matey! Me beeps be warnin' me of yer boardin' party!12:50
zcat[1] the /dev/hdc entry suggest that it was working once ( or added manually : )12:50
ProofI've just started ubuntu, setup was completed n' all but.. all i see is a dos window with postfix, how do i skip this process or go straight to desktop?12:50
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ompaulDa_SWAT, have you tried breezy or hoary, or both?12:51
kelmo_lap[LethAL] : module-assistant is really for when using a native repository12:51
aftertafloool thoreauputic,  Well, me hearties, lets see what crawled out of the bung hole12:51
[LethAL] kelmo_lap, I got it from the ubuntu repos, don't worry12:51
kelmo_lap[LethAL] : i would suggest using make-kpkg, as i cannot supply an ubuntu compat. repository12:51
Da_SWATompaul, only hoary. I'll try breezy when it's gold :P12:51
Seveaskelmo_lap, build failed :|12:51
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kelmo_lapSeveas: any specific error?12:51
Da_SWATzcat[1] , it never worked :(12:52
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Seveasdo you use gcc-3.4 explicitely in your makefiles?12:52
kelmo_lapno12:52
nomad1i cant use system -> administration -> disks      utility12:52
thoreauputicaftertaf: do *real* pirates say "bung hole" ? ;)12:52
Seveasthen that's the proble12:52
Seveasbreezy uses gcc 4 by default :)12:52
kelmo_lapso do i12:52
nomad1when i try to enable acess to a partition nuthing happens12:52
Seveasthe ubuntu kernels are compiled with 3.4 though12:53
kelmo_lapahh12:53
kelmo_lapthats a nightmare to support . . .12:53
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zcat[1] Da_SWAT: ahh, ok.. it's kinda late here so I'm probably not helping much. My brain has gone to sleep. I'll stop typing when my fingers fall asleep..12:53
Whistleris it possible to install rox via apt-get?12:53
nomad1any tips plz12:53
thoreauputicWhistler: yes12:53
kelmo_lapSeveas: how about when you export CC ?12:53
deFrysk!rox12:53
ubotudeFrysk: No idea12:53
SeveasWhistler, apt-get install rox-filer12:53
thoreauputicWhistler: rox-filer12:53
Da_SWATzcat[1] , late is only a state of mind :D12:53
deFryskhmz12:53
bob2nomad1: "enable access"?12:54
CaiN_SAim trying to delete a user and userdel tells me : user cain is currently logged in ?12:54
nomad1u set an access path12:54
bob2CaiN_SA: so log them out12:54
zcat[1] "sleep is for the weak!" :-)12:54
Seveaskelmo_lap, after installing gcc3.4 build succeeded :)12:54
nomad1then there is a button called enable12:54
kelmo_lapcool12:54
CaiN_SAbob2, they are not logged in12:54
mrp_Im new to the whole ubunto system, and all that is related, just installed and ran into a quite silly problem, i did not get the possibillity to set a password for the user 'root' i.e cant change nor configure nothing, is there a default password for root, which i will run into while RTFM? :P12:54
bob2nomad1: a button? where?12:54
nomad1i press it and nuthing happens12:54
bob2mrp_: wiki.ubunut.com/RootSudo12:54
CaiN_SAbob2, i reboot and try and then it tells me that12:54
ompaulDa_SWAT, zcat[1]  that has physical implications - that needs to be taken to #offtopic :)12:54
kelmo_lapSeveas: are you using make-kpkg?12:54
Da_SWATompaul, the thing that is scaring me is that my drive works perfectly under winblows :(12:54
bob2mrp_: the installer did point this out to you,and it's in the FAQ12:54
SeveasI'm about to install it so if my connection drops and I don't come back, things went wrong ;)12:54
Turicasi want to execute an command when system initializes (AFTER ppp connects - in my adsl provider). how i can do it?12:54
bob2CaiN_SA: who are you logged in as?12:54
Seveaskelmo_lap, no, module-assistant12:55
nomad1so u go system -> administration -> disks12:55
ompaulDa_SWAT, does not scare me12:55
Da_SWATompaul, LOL12:55
CaiN_SAbob2, root12:55
nomad1then u go to paritions tab12:55
bob2Turicas: and the command is...?12:55
thoreauputicCaiN_SA: are you trying to delete yourself? *grin*12:55
nomad1the laast option is status12:55
kelmo_lapSeveas: how do you use mod-add without having the source repo in your sources.list?12:55
kelmo_lapmod-ass*12:55
Turicasbob2, curl -o ~/logs http://...12:55
mrp_ah, thanks, maybe not so alert while installing then12:55
CaiN_SAthoreauputic, no its in a chroot env12:55
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ompaulDa_SWAT, what does ls -l /dev/hdc tell you?12:55
nomad1and it says inaccessible and next to it there is a couple of buttons12:55
SeveasI installed your .deb before running module-assistant12:55
kelmo_lapahh12:55
nomad1one of which is enable12:55
kelmo_lapof course12:55
bob2Turicas: add it as a if-up.d script, man 5 interfaces12:55
nomad1i press it and nuthing happens12:55
Da_SWATompaul, no such file or directory12:55
mrp_ok, cheers12:56
Turicasbob2, i'll test now..tkz :)12:56
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GatoLokoSeveas i've installed your packages and still failing, i think is a problems with the libs, but a dist-upgrade don't change anything :(, may be i must reinstall12:56
kelmo_lap[LethAL] : how are you going over there?12:56
Whistlerhow do i update without using  update manager?12:56
bob2nomad1: what do you expect it to do?12:56
[LethAL] I just ran module-assistant12:56
Whistlercan i update using bash?12:56
bob2Whistler: you mean the terminal? of course.12:56
nomad1to mount the partition so i can access its contents12:56
bob2Whistler: use aptitude or apt12:56
ompaulDa_SWAT, that might have lot to do with your problems12:56
ProofCan somone help please?12:56
Turicasbob2, the file is /etc/ifup.d ?12:56
Belutzwew the channel is busy12:56
Whistlerbob2 what command?12:56
bob2Turicas: no, /etc/network/12:56
thoreauputicWhistler: sudo apt-get upgrade12:57
bob2Whistler: sudo aptitude...12:57
Da_SWATompaul, you mean the fact that my drive isn't recognized by Ubuntu? (what I have been saying all along)12:57
marc`GAIM dings when someone signs in, can i make it popup who signed in like MSN/Yahoo12:57
ompaulno the fact that you had fstab settings and there was no thing there for it12:57
ompaulno device12:57
[LethAL] kelmo_lap, just getting headers now12:58
Turicasbob2, tkz =D12:58
Jurgenimarc`: install guifications12:58
Seveaskelmo_lap, how to make sure *your* ath_pci.ko (etc) are loaded instead of the ubuntu ones?12:59
kelmo_lapSeveas: easy, remove the ubuntu ones first ; )01:00
malvUbuntu is great. I am so used to fiddling with stuff at night with other linux distro's, but with Ubuntu, everything is in it's place.01:00
Seveas*g*01:00
SeveasI'll move them to a backup location :)01:00
kelmo_lapyep01:00
aftertafmalv:  :) yeah01:00
Seveasok, modprobe -r / modprobe time01:00
Seveasbrb (I hope)01:01
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aftertaf!info java-package01:01
ubotujava-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.23 (hoary), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 264 kB01:01
nomad1wats a good program i can use to sync my pda01:02
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aftertafnomad1:  kde or gnome? i use kpilot, worked out of the box01:03
nomad1gnome plz01:03
nomad1i got a dell axim x5001:03
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nomad1does kpilot work in gnome01:03
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Turicasbob2, it doesnt worked :/01:04
marc`finally got mp3 working..01:04
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bob2Turicas: that's a pretty vaue statement01:04
Turicasbob2, i put curl -o ~/FILE http://www.somesite.com/ and ~/FILE doesnt exist.. ;~01:04
Turicasbob2, ?01:04
nomad1aftertaf: any tips01:04
aftertafnomad1:  probably yeah... but there is a gnome version (ish) too i think. gpilot01:05
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nomad1does it work for pocket pc or just palm01:05
aftertafnomad1:  not the same thing.....01:05
aftertafpalm != pcket pc.01:05
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aftertafmine is a palm and works fine with kpilot01:06
Turicasbob2, what happened?01:06
Da_SWATompaul, what you would recommend I do now?01:08
ompaulDa_SWAT, try a live CD of breezy badger to see if it can see the CD01:08
Da_SWATso the hdc=noprobe wouldn't do any good for me01:09
Da_SWAT?01:09
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bob2Turicas: er01:10
bob2Turicas: you mean you made a script that does that, right?01:10
bob2and made it executable?01:10
Turicasbob2, yeh..01:10
Turicasbob2, i did cd /etc/network/if-up.d/; ./my_script and it executed successfully01:10
[LethAL] kelmo_lap, I'm in networking. If I automagically disappear, you'll know why.01:11
Da_SWATompaul, well, thanks for your time and help. I'll try the live CD and hope for better days01:12
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kelmo_lap[LethAL] : heh, good luck01:12
Turicasbob2, but this script don't executes when system starts01:12
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ompaulDa_SWAT, just check that both drives are set to master and slave and not cs01:13
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Da_SWATompaul, done... twice or thrice or something01:14
ompaulk01:15
ompaulda01:15
bob2Turicas: if you replace it with a "touch /tmp/blahblah", does it work?01:15
ompaulDa_SWAT, one of the drives is faulty - is it faulty under windows also?01:15
Turicasbob2, replace what?01:16
Da_SWATompaul, nope. I burn my DVD's (winblows) with the faulty drive (ubuntu)01:16
bob2Turicas: your script01:16
ompaulDa_SWAT, are both working in windows was my question01:16
Da_SWATnomad, jpilot is the one of my choice :)01:17
Whistlerhow do i know what kind of ram is in my pc?01:17
ompaulDa_SWAT, sorry bad way of phrasing it01:17
Da_SWATompaul, yes. In windows everything works fine :)01:17
Turicasbob2, i'll try..tkz01:17
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kelmo_lapSeveas: i assume you had issues01:19
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kelmo_lapyeah?01:19
Seveaskelmo_lap, yeah, brain issues :)01:19
kelmo_laphehe01:19
kelmo_lapSeveas: so the new snapshot is working for you then01:19
Seveasapparently modprobe -r ath_* wlan_* and then modprobing them again (your version or mine) fucks up things01:19
Seveasso i rebooted and your modules work fine01:20
kelmo_lapSeveas: only trick would be to install gcc-3.4 before hand?01:20
Seveasand linux-headers-$(uname -r)01:20
kelmo_lapSeveas: and remove existing modules of course01:20
kelmo_lapok, and linux-headers*01:20
kelmo_lapexcellent01:20
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kelmo_lapSeveas: thank you very much for testing that out man01:20
SeveasIsn't there a way to make /lib/modules/kernel version/drivers/net.. (your modules) be preferred over /lib/modules/kernel version/madwifi (ubuntu modules)?01:21
kelmo_laphmm, not easily01:21
Seveasok01:21
SeveasI'll write a howto on the wiki and will provide -386 -686 and -k7 packages shortly in my repo :)01:22
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kelmo_lapSeveas: i'm really trying to figure out howto tweak modutils so that three rate modules can be installed, when only one is used01:22
kelmo_lapSeveas: awesome, that would be fantastic01:22
Seveashow often fo you update your sources?01:22
Seveasor packages?01:23
Seveas(which means: how often do I have to rebuild the modules :))01:23
kelmo_lapSeveas: i update quite often, but can contact you to notify of the more important upgrades01:23
Seveasthat would rock01:23
kelmo_lapSeveas: i have a swag of other module packages if you are interested01:23
Seveasyou have a list somewhere?01:24
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kelmo_lapSeveas: no, but maybe i should grab your mail adress, then you can contatc me directly, if you wish to do so of course01:25
kelmo_lapcontact*01:25
Seveaskelmo_lap, dennis [at]  kaarsemaker.net01:25
kelmo_lapSeveas: i hack for kanotix, anything that is not in debian, or old, that we want kernel support for is mostly my domain01:25
Seveasnice01:27
reikiquick note to Seveas, nalioth, ompaul, cafuego and the many folks who spend a great deal of time in here helping us be successful with Ubuntu... many many years ago I *did* what you're doing on a channel in Efnet for a new OS called Windows95. It was sometimes a thankless job and took an incredible amount of time. Just wanted to say "thank you" for all the help. It is much appreciated. .... gotta get ready for work now...01:27
marc`is if possible to get ubuntu recognising my media keys on my keyboard?01:27
CaiN_SAhmmmm so nobody helped me , gr801:27
kelmo_lapmarc`: acerhk?01:27
Seveasdo you take stuff from ubuntu too? I know for instance that during the last days of hoary they were really fast with nvidia updates01:27
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ompaulreiki, enjoy :)01:27
naliothreiki: be safe today01:27
kelmo_lapmarc`: ah, mm keyborad, not laptop . . .01:27
Seveasreiki, thanks!01:27
aftertafreiki:  Hon Sha Ze Cho Nien dude01:28
reikiaftertaf: Dai Ko Myo01:28
kelmo_lapSeveas: to be honest, i have hardly looked at ubuntu, i should really get more information about their packaging practisices and repositories01:28
kelmo_lappractices*01:28
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Seveaskelmo_lap, hanging out at #ubuntu-kernel (very low traffic) may be useful :)01:29
ompaulwhat is the command to get seconds since the epoch?01:29
Seveasdate01:29
Seveaswith some arguments01:29
LethAL-Rockskelmo_lap, Same problem I had with FC4, can talk to router but not the world01:29
Seveasdate +%s01:29
marc`so no idea kelmo_lap ?01:29
Seveas112712940201:30
ompaulSeveas,  thanks, I was just about to look under a rock for my brain but you saved me :)01:30
marc`its a microsoft media keyboard01:30
aftertafargh... that word!! ;)01:30
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thoreauputicmarc`: language! please!01:30
Seveasguys...01:30
LethAL-RocksWhich one aftertaf, brain or microsoft?01:30
kelmo_lapmarc`: i would use xev to get keycodes, then map them with xmodmap01:30
kelmo_laphehe01:30
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kelmo_lap[LethAL]  ?01:31
[LethAL] Ya?01:31
[LethAL] I can't ping my default gateway, but my router can. Any ideas?01:31
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bob2CaiN_SA: remember everyone in here is a volunteer01:32
kelmo_lap[LethAL] : yeah01:32
[LethAL] kelmo_lap, Go on then01:32
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aftertafCaiN_SA:  wazzup?01:32
kelmo_lap[LethAL] : prey that the new rt2x00 module gets good fast, because the legacy driver is no longer getting any (if at all) attention01:32
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hansi_xpwhaza01:33
kelmo_lap[LethAL] : sorry, i can't really vouch for that driver, its still got heaps of hidoeus code innit01:33
[LethAL] I have the 2570-cvs-daily tar, maybe I should try that?01:33
[LethAL] Or get the 2x00 daily one?01:33
kelmo_lap[LethAL] : has not changed since my snapshot,01:33
[LethAL] ah01:34
kelmo_lap[LethAL] : the rt2x00 is _very_ experimental01:34
kelmo_lapdon't expect it to work at all yet01:34
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hansi_xphas anybody had any problems with mplayer and dvd and sound?01:34
[LethAL] Oh01:34
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MarzBaranyone got an ATI Radeon 9550 to work with ubuntu properly? or using dual monitors? At the moment al i can get is clonedd view on the monitors01:35
MarzBar:S01:35
kelmo_lap[LethAL] : but thanks for testing out man01:35
[LethAL] Sure01:35
kelmo_lap[LethAL] : will come back t find you if the situation gets brighter ; )01:35
[LethAL] :)01:36
[LethAL] It's a shame the autoinstall feature doesn't work on Linux :P01:36
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kelmo_lapbloody aussies01:36
P-NuTHi all, I am happy to report that breazy has fixed my problem.01:36
P-NuT:-)01:36
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P-NuThey01:36
P-NuTI'm an aussie01:36
[LethAL] I think that's why he said it01:37
CaiN_SAaftertaf, i want to delete a user and it doesnt want to delete it01:37
CaiN_SAits in a chroot01:37
kelmo_lapP-NuT: can you come over to #madwifi so i can interigate you about the madwifi/hel version in breezy01:37
hansi_xphas anybody had success playing dvd with mplayer?01:37
Seveaskelmo_lap, if you want I can give you shell access to a breezy machine01:37
hansi_xpis there anybody out there? hehe01:37
fadumpthow do I free up /dev/dsp?01:38
fadumptis there a lock file I can delete?01:38
aftertafCaiN_SA:  did you synch the /etc/passwd et al? or add new users from within the chroot?01:38
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kelmo_lapSeveas: thats cool, i've had enough ubuntu'ing for the night, but maybe i'll come back and hit you up for it in the future ; )01:38
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Seveask :)01:38
CaiN_SAaftertaf, i can add a new user, and the old one is in the files but i cant remove it01:38
P-NuTshall do01:39
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aftertafin the files on the master system or the chroot system?01:39
hansi_xpanybody use mplayer?01:40
hansi_xpanybody at all?01:40
bob2hansi_xp: asking the same uninformative question over and over seems suboptimal01:40
bob2hansi_xp: yes, lots of people use mplayer succesfully to watch dvds01:40
aftertafhansi_xp:  have you checked all the mixer settings see if any are at 0 or muted?01:40
CaiN_SAaftertaf, both :)01:41
aftertafsuboptimal :D01:41
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hansi_xpaftertaf: yes, the best i can do is mplayer dvd:// -nosound01:41
hansi_xpbob2: why don't you help me?01:41
bob2hansi_xp: why don't you explain the actual issue?01:41
aftertafCaiN_SA:  does it cause an error on both systems?01:41
bob2any plan involving dvds and esd is doomed01:42
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fadumptcan delete /de/dsp to free it up?01:42
fadumptwill it come back01:42
hansi_xpbob2: mplayer dvd:// -ao esd , i can't listen to dvd01:42
aftertaffadumpt:  dont break what you dont know how to repair...... advice from a mostly newbie ;)01:43
CaiN_SAaftertaf, no just in the chroot01:43
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fadumptaftertaf, well i know that a lot of files reload01:43
bob2hansi_xp: pkill esd, mplayer -ao oss01:43
fadumptso i was kinda hoping this would just reload too01:43
x[BrB] xbob2 can i make a shortcut of my download folder on my desktop?01:43
aftertafCaiN_SA:  and if you go into the files themselves you can't remove them?01:43
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bob2x[BrB] x: sure...01:43
fadumptcuz it's saying something about [OSS]  cant open /dev/dsp01:43
hansi_xpbob2: still no sound01:44
aftertaffadumpt:  u on gnom eor kde?01:44
x[BrB] xcan you help me?01:44
Pyfhi i just installed a secondary/slave hd how do i get ubuntu to detect it?01:44
fadumptaftertaf, gnome01:44
othernoobdoes anyone have a nec nd2500A ?01:44
bob2hansi_xp: define "no sound"?01:44
bob2Pyf: it's already detected01:44
CaiN_SAaftertaf, i can but its annoying cos i have to delete that user from the group / shadow and passwd file :/01:44
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fadumptit's video files under mplayer01:44
aftertafx[BrB] x:  in nautilus, do a drag n drop to Desktop, it should ask you if you want to make a shortcut.01:44
Pyfbob2, hw do i access it?01:45
hansi_xpbob2: no sound, in the cli it says audio: no sound, you press zero on the keyboard you can't move the volume slider at all01:45
aftertafx[BrB] x:  OR... right click desktop, new shorcut to: and follow the next> button :D01:45
bob2hansi_xp: ignore that01:45
bob2hansi_xp: where does sound work?01:45
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bob2Pyf: /msg ubotu ntfs01:45
dealtgreetings01:45
bpuccioso what's the new place to get w32codecs?01:45
hansi_xpbob2: on a wmv file, mov file, and in xmms, general ubuntu01:45
aftertafCaiN_SA:  hmm weird... uncle google come up with anything?01:46
fadumptmplayer's site bpuccio01:46
bpucciofadumpt: thanks!01:46
bob2hansi_xp: and with "mplayer -ao oss whatever.mp3"?01:46
dealtjust a quick q: how can i tell apt to use proxy? im using 5.04 and /etc/apt/apt.conf doesnt exist01:46
fadumptunder downloads01:46
hansi_xpbob2: give me a second01:46
aftertafdealt:  you create it;)01:46
dealtaftertaf: under /etc/apt or /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/?01:47
Pyfbob2, it might be formatted ntfs how do i format it to fat32?01:47
aftertafdealt:  /etc/apt   > create apt.conf01:47
aftertafdealt:  you know what t put?01:47
bob2Pyf: er, you want to delete everythogn on it?01:47
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Pyfbob2, yeah tis fine01:47
LethAL-RocksPyf, You can't convert ntfs to FAT32 in Linux, use a Windows partitioner instead01:48
dealtaftertaf: ACQUIRE { ...} ?01:48
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LethAL-RocksPyf, Well, I meant not without losing data ;)01:48
hansi_xpbob2: it doesn't work with -ao -oss but it does work with -ao -esd01:48
bob2Pyf: mkfs -t vfat /dev/whatever01:48
PyfLethAL-Rocks,  i dont wanna convert, just format, is that possible?01:48
aftertafdealt:  more or less..... 2 secs...01:48
bob2hansi_xp: then you didn't run "pkill esd"01:48
fadumptaftertaf, here it is: [AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy01:48
hansi_xpbob2: whoops sorry dude01:48
LethAL-RocksPyf, Yeah, use GParted01:48
aftertafdealt:  Acquire::http::Proxy "http://10.130.8.254:8090";; <--- my settings01:49
fadumptooh! how do I set the gui to use -ao -esd?01:49
dealtaftertaf: :) thanks01:49
hansi_xpbob2: okay -ao oss works now01:49
bob2dealt: now try a dvd01:49
fadumptnevermind01:49
fadumptthanks bob201:49
aftertaffadumpt:  better not using esd, afaik01:49
bob2bah01:49
fadumptbob2 fixed my issue01:49
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bob2hansi_xp: now try a dvd01:50
hansi_xpbob2: doesn't work yet01:50
aftertafbah.. ;)01:50
dealtlet me test this "thanks"01:50
bob2so, mysql users01:50
iLLf8danyone have working colorschemes in vim in rxvt or some other term? seems they're hosed in debian and I was curious if they're hosed in ubuntu too?01:50
dealti thought the "now try a dvd" was an auto-reply :)01:51
bob2how do I allow the account 'rob' to use the "mysql" command with a password?01:51
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bob2(with mysql-4.1)01:51
Yohohosfameronbob2: grant access ?01:51
ompaulhansi_xp, mplayer gives a lot of helpful info such as --  Your system is too SLOW to play this! -- then it goes on to do stuff like explain what you might do do overcome this problem01:51
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ompaulhansi_xp, read the output and try some of the stuff there01:51
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hansi_xpompaul: where dude? try what?01:52
Yohohosfameronoh, hang on, it's grant <<priveleges>> on db.* to username identified by password or something like that - should be documented on mysql.com01:52
ompaulhansi_xp, please be aware that I know very little about audio01:52
dealtaftertaf: should i restart any service after creating apt.conf, i assume there's none01:52
bob2Yohohosfameron: roc, thanks01:52
ompaulhansi_xp, start mplayer on the command line01:52
aftertafdealt:  nope works straight after01:52
hansi_xpompaul: my computer is a 1 ghz celeron. windows xp plays dvds no problems01:52
hansi_xpompaul: i have been mplayer dvd:// -ao esd01:52
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hansi_xpbob2: so what you reckon bob01:53
hansi_xpi know that i am dumb, but too dumb01:53
hansi_xpi don't think do01:53
ompaulhansi_xp, and read the output to yourself it might just give you the clue you need01:53
ompaulhansi_xp, in the terminal where you start it don't worry about the film first01:53
x[BrB] xbob2 can i user other irc rather than xchat??01:54
apokryphosx[BrB] x: there are many IRC clients01:54
ompaulx[BrB] x, you could use lots of them - there are many more clients than just many01:54
apokryphosx[BrB] x: irssi, gaim, kopete, konversation, kvirc, ksirc etc etc01:54
fadumptirssi, BitchX01:54
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apokryphos=)01:55
hansi_xpompaul: do you want me just to type mplayer in the cli?01:55
x[BrB] xi like downloading mp3 and i find it hard using xchat01:55
x[BrB] xso what can you recommend guys?01:55
x[BrB] xthankws in advance01:55
hansi_xpwhat dude?01:55
ompaulhansi_xp,  yes with the command line and read the output it is very very helpful - as I said before I am not much good with sound but it is very very useful01:55
apokryphosx[BrB] x: kvirc, personally.01:56
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hansi_xpb@ubuntu:~$ mplayer01:56
hansi_xpMPlayer 1.0pre6-3.3.5 (C) 2000-2004 MPlayer Team01:56
hansi_xpCPU: Intel Celeron 2/Pentium III Coppermine,Geyserville (Family: 6, Stepping: 10 )01:56
hansi_xpDetected cache-line size is 32 bytes01:56
hansi_xpMMX2 supported but disabled01:56
hansi_xpCPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 001:56
hansi_xpCompiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX SSE01:56
x[BrB] xthanks :)01:56
ompaulx[BrB] x, well sirc or irssi for cli and xchat / ksirc for gui01:56
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ompaulhansi_xp, okay - number 1 don't paste here01:57
ompaulhansi_xp, okay - number 2 use paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:57
hansi_xpompaul: are you familiar with mplayer?01:57
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ompaulhansi_xp, you were given command lines there a few moments ago - use them in the terminal and read the output - how hard is that - it gives lots of clues01:58
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hansi_xpwhere did bob2 go?01:58
puterfixergreetings, ladies and gentlemen. I'm looking for some help on setting up my TV tuner, it's a KWorld V-Stream StudioTV Terminator, VS-LTV7131RF, with a Philips SAA7131 chip. I see the saa7134 module being loaded, but I don't think it's using the correct card and tuner number01:58
puterfixerso I'd need the list of cards and tuners supported by Ubuntu kernel, but I have no idea where to find it; I'm following some instructions from gentoo-wiki.com site.01:59
hansi_xpompaul: would you like to see my output?01:59
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kelmo_lapputerfixer: you need to modprobe saa7134 card=SOME_NUMBER02:00
jannaaHi, im a fresh ubuntu user, and im wondering whats the default root pw is for ubuntu?02:00
aftertaf!tell jannaa about root02:00
aftertaf!tell jannaa about sudo02:00
hansi_xpthere is no default root pw is there?02:00
aftertafjannaa:  there isnt one, check those links02:00
kelmo_lapSOME_NUMBER is listed in the kernel documentation, can't remember exactly where though02:00
hansi_xpbob2: are you still there?02:01
puterfixerI know, kelmo_lap; I need the list of cards and tuners for the module, though :)02:01
puterfixercan't guess card=2 and tuner=17...02:01
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Whistleri have installed rox using apt-get install rox-filer how do i log on to it?02:01
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naliothWhistler: open a terminal or go to applications > run application  and type "rox-filer"02:02
thoreauputicWhistler: you don't log on to a file manager :)02:02
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battletuxdoes anyone know a working backport for installing java?02:02
nalioththoreauputic: dont be a prude02:02
thoreauputicprude? Is that the word you  were looking for?02:03
BockBilbohow do i do to make the beagle deamon start on boot in breezy?02:03
fortnoxHey everyone02:03
Whistlers***02:03
Whistleri wanted to install rox gui02:03
Whistlernot file manager02:03
kelmo_lapputerfixer: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/video4linux/CARDLIST.saa713402:03
ompaulhansi_xp, pastebin it and see what happens, I more than likely will not have any useful comment in which case you will nothing from me02:03
housetier#rox might be able to help02:03
naliothWhistler: i dont think rox is offered in the repos02:03
ompauls/will nothing/will see nothing/02:04
apokryphoshi fortnox =)02:04
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fortnox:)02:04
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hansi_xpompaul: what is pastebin?02:04
puterfixerkelmo_lap, I looked there, but there's no linux in /usr/src02:04
kelmo_lapputerfixer: fecth it ; )02:05
Seveas!paste02:05
ubotu[paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text02:05
kelmo_lapfetch*02:05
puterfixerI guess I need to install the linux documentation or something, but don't know which package :)02:05
Seveashansi_xp, ^==02:05
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kelmo_lapputerfixer: you can always just get a massive tarball from kernel.org02:05
ompaulhansi_xp, I am now putting you on ignore, I told you that 3 minutes go - in over 10 years of IRC I have used ignor 5 times well done02:05
jtholmesputerfixer:  you want the kernel source package(s)02:05
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hansi_xpompaul: thanks dude02:05
puterfixerok, what should I search for? I'm a noob...02:06
Whistlerso rox GUI isnt aviable via apt-get?02:06
battletuxCould someone give me a pointer to a repo with java please?02:06
Pyfhmmm using gparted ive converted the ntfs hd to fat32, how do i copy a file onto it say?02:06
jtholmesputerfixer: what release r u using02:06
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puterfixerHoary02:06
giovannwhy i cant save with my floppy ?02:06
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puterfixerwith all updates... kernel 2.6.10-502:07
thoreauputicWhistler: not as far as I know - rox uses its own app install methods iirc02:07
segosawhen's breezy gonna be final (and don't hit me if it's a common question =p)02:07
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jtholmesputerfixer: hold on02:07
Pyfsegosa, 18th octorber if my memory serves me02:07
procrastinatoranyone knows why i don't have /dev/ircomm0 even though ircomm-module is loaded?02:07
segosathanks.02:07
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ompaul!breezy02:08
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fadumpt!breezy02:08
fadumpt?02:08
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segosahow's that for a breeze :p02:08
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fadumptobotu yelled at me :(02:08
segosa!breezy02:08
segosapfft02:08
ompaulsegosa, the 13th think02:08
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ompaulfadumpt, that is a message02:08
fadumpt!breezy02:09
segosalol02:09
ompaulfadumpt, not a yell, yelling is CAPS :)02:09
dealthi, is there a scp gui tool for gnome?02:09
dealtthanks02:09
jtholmesputerfixer: ok from cmd line    apt-cache search *kernel* that should give list of kernel pkgs avail02:09
giovannthere is no paste in my floppy02:09
Seveasdealt, places -> connect to server02:09
fadumpt!fadumpt02:09
ubotufadumpt: Do they come in packets of five?02:09
fortnoxbrb02:09
CrTrWhat is that port for  : 2628/tcp open  dict  ?02:09
dealtSeveas:thanks02:09
dealt:)02:09
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fadumpt!fadumpt02:09
ompaulfadumpt, please do not play with the bot02:09
fadumpt:(02:09
jtholmesputerfixer: running suse 9.3 right now so can do it to see what comes back02:10
fadumptkill my fun why dontcha02:10
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puterfixergot the list in synaptic, trying to pick packages that seem interesting... docs, sources, things like that. thanks :)02:10
ompaulfadumpt, there are 411 people in the channel and it is not fair on them02:10
jtholmesputerfixer: ok anytime02:10
Jowihi all, probs with fetchmail+sendmail+pop3. How do I resolve the error "SMTP error 552 message too large"?02:10
CrTrWhat is that port for  : 2628/tcp filtered   dict  ?02:10
p0Hello ! Have anyone tried to install oracle client?02:10
JowiCrTr: man dict will give you best answer02:11
smott./ut2004-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory .... hm what?02:12
CrTrthere`s no info about dict02:12
JowiCrTr: dict is a dictionary service.02:12
CrTr10x02:13
x[BrB] xwht is ubuntu slackwave or debian?02:13
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CrTrdebian02:13
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x[BrB] xthanks :)02:13
giardbreezy question:  anyone else getting: Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.02:13
CrTrdpkg-reconfigure locales02:14
giardCrTr: thanks!02:14
JowiCrTr: dict is running in the background listening for local applications that need the dictionary probably.02:14
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CrTrhow could I close that dict port ?02:15
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giardCrTr: Should I choose the UTF-8 version or the other one?02:15
JowiCrTr: shutdown dict itself is the most obvious way: killall dict02:16
aleitnerDoes anybody successfully use AFS on Hoary?02:16
maswanaleitner: yes.02:16
aleitnermaswan: Do you use a 2.6 or 2.4 kernel?02:16
maswanaleitner: 2.6 kernel02:16
JowiCrTr: for a more permanent solution: uninstall it :-)02:17
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aleitnermaswan: cool. how did you install it. i tried to build the kernel modules, but it failed02:17
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maswanaleitner: you need a newer openafs than is shipped, unfortunately02:17
aleitnermaswan: ahh, i see. how do i get that?02:17
catfoxis there a way of having xinerama with a laptop, rather than just duplicating the screen through tv out?02:18
aleitnermaswan: (or do you know if breezy will have it, cause maybe i just wait then)02:18
maswanaleitner: breezy hopefully, if ogra remembers to get it in.02:18
aleitnermaswan: (;02:18
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ogramaswan, i asked for a sync several times now... but somehow keep missing elmo... i wont forget it02:19
maswanogra: thanks02:19
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CrTrHow could i see which programs are running at the moment ?02:20
aleitnerogra: thanks from me too02:20
maswanaleitner: hmm. here seems to be hoary compatible arla packaging. http://www.hpc2n.umu.se/staff/torkel/arla/Ubuntu/02:20
aftertafCrTr:  type ps -A in a shell02:20
JowiCrTr: ps -A02:20
CrTr10q02:20
maswanaleitner: don't know if I have openafs around right now.02:20
aleitnermaswan: interesting. is orla known to work well?02:21
aleitnermaswan: erm, i mean arla02:21
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maswanaleitner: well, we run it in production. it doesn't have a working afs server though, but the client seems to be doing well enough.02:22
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aleitnermaswan: i am only interested in the client part...02:23
maswanyeah, we run a mix of openafs and arla clients, mostly since arla was first with 2.6 support.02:23
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CrTrwhat`s better .. filtered port or closed port ?02:23
[LethAL] CrTr, Stealthed02:25
JowiCrTr: depends on what you want. "closed" is closed. not accessible. shut.02:25
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JowiCrTr: a stealthed port is still open, but is not so obvious about it.02:26
JowiCrTr: a stealthed port can also be closed though.02:26
puterfixerterminology can be a little misleading, CrTr ... I think "closed" means that the remote system WILL return an ICMP package to say "this port is closed", while "stealth" will just ignore everything and not return any error messages, making the system look "stealth" or "black hole" or "invisible" or "non responsive"02:27
JowiCrTr: that's sort of the whole point of stealthing them....02:27
puterfixerthe port is closed in both situations, but the second method doesn't generate unnecessary traffic and doesn't reveal the presence of the system02:28
bob2if you're using the term "stealthing", you shouldn't be messing with firewalls at all02:28
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bob2at least until you read about how networks actually work02:28
CrTr10x alot02:28
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{cYanide}hi02:30
puterfixerit's the same difference than "drop" and "reject" options for packet filtering in iptables. "drop" ignores a packet, "reject" also sends back a message - which you don't want to do.02:30
{cYanide}my glgears fullscreen is like 70 fps o_O, but in windows gl apps are way fast02:30
{cYanide}i have a er02:30
bob2ignore glxgears02:30
{cYanide}Intel 845GV in this pc02:30
Jowibob2: well, "stealth" is a common word to use. Even if it is not the 100% correct one, heh02:30
selinium_is there part a apt-get command that installs the recommended packes aswell?02:30
bob2Jowi: in windows-land maybe02:30
{cYanide}in windows, it runs pretty well, but im thinking i can update drivers and that should speed it up in ubuntu but im not sure how02:30
bob2selinium_: that's what (among other things) aptitude is dfor02:30
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Jowibob2: in internet-land02:30
bob2apt-get was a demo program for libapt02:30
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pc22how do i edit grub?02:31
bob2Jowi: no actual network person I've ever met has used that term02:31
BockBilbohello02:31
bob2pc22: to do what?02:31
Seveasselinium_, it's a commadn-line option02:31
BockBilbopc22, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst02:31
Seveaslike --with-recommends02:31
bob2Seveas: depends on your version of apt02:31
BockBilboany of you know where does ubuntu have the default icon set at?02:31
Seveasbob2, true... but afaik hoary had it already02:31
pc22my comp is dual os02:32
bob2Seveas: doesn't appear to for me02:32
bob2not in the manpage or help output, anyway02:32
pc22i dont want to see my microsoft. i just want to put a dot02:32
Jowibob2: i use it because i've been dealing with actual end-users. "how do i stealth?" is a very common question if you are or have been in tech-support for network products - including Cisco believe it or not.02:32
bob2hah, wow02:32
selinium_Seveas, bob2, I thinkyou are getting me wrong, when installing via apt-get it installs the dependentcies and also shows you recommended installs. But it does not install these recommended files. I could not find a flag that would do this, is it possible?02:33
puterfixeryeah, some software firewalls also use the "stealth" word, I guess it sounds good for marketing.02:33
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Seveasselinium, at least aptitude has it in hoary02:33
bob2selinium_: yes, we understood you02:33
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Seveasbut i thought apt-get too (aooarently i was wrong)02:33
dzik_24Hello to all02:33
Jowihello dzik_2402:33
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pc22BockBilbo, how do i save?02:34
puterfixer"my ports are stealth, I am the undercover invisible supergeek of the network, mwahahahaha"02:34
BockBilbopc22 ctrl+o02:34
Seveasputerfixer, don't be a gibson in here...02:34
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selinium_Seveas bob2: This is one of those conversations I wish was on a telephone! I thought aptitude was the same as apt-get?02:35
puterfixersorry mate :)02:35
dzik_24I have problem with my SB Audigy NX02:35
Seveasselinium_, they are both frontends to apt02:35
Pyfive mounted a new hard disk i just installed, but when i try to copy files to it i dont have permission, have i done something wrong?02:35
Seveasaptitude is more powerful02:35
pc22i will try now thanks02:35
sipiordaft question, but i can't seem to find the answer in any man pages: how does one list the files provided by a given package?02:35
dzik_24I can't hear anything from my back speakers02:35
sipiori seem to remember doing this in debian, years ago...02:35
dzik_24Only the front speakers are working02:36
x[BrB] xhow can i install automake02:36
dzik_24Help ME plz02:36
AntiochDoes Ubuntu have ATI support yet?02:36
BockBilboAntioch, yes02:36
CrTrE: Couldn't find package xchm   : It has another name ?02:36
AntiochBockBilbo I've been away from linux for a while - since when has ATI support been solved?02:36
BockBilboAntioch, well... the support isnt built in ubuntu02:37
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Nermaldzik_24, check mixer02:37
AntiochDrivers finally came out?02:37
BockBilboyou need to install the propietary ati drivers02:37
selinium_Seveas, Another cog falls into place!02:37
Nermaltry aumix02:37
AntiochDid ATI finally release Xorg drivers?02:37
BockBilboAntioch, yes02:37
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AntiochThank goodness02:38
Antioch=)02:38
dzik_24I checked it and I don't have output for back speakers02:38
BockBilboigoota go brb02:38
CrTrE: Couldn't find package xchm   ; Does it have another name or .. ?02:38
x[BrB] xhow to install automake02:39
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Seveas!info xchm02:40
ubotuxchm: (Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.7-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 212 kB, Installed size: 812 kB02:40
SeveasCrTr, enable universe...02:40
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sipiorx[BrB] x: doesn't apt-get install automake work?02:41
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CrTrSeveas, if I enable universe there are some errors ..02:42
CrTrPackages in this component are not supported02:42
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selinium_Seveas: sorry, i wissed the --with-recommends thing! Cheers for that!02:45
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selinium_sorry bob2 I didn't see the discussion going on about --with-recommends :) DOh!02:47
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x[BrB] xhow to install automake02:51
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x[BrB] xi cant isntall it :(02:51
bob2x[BrB] x: why do you want it?02:52
bob2x[BrB] x: and you need to know which version you need02:52
x[BrB] xi need it to kvirc :)02:53
bob2kvirc is in ubunt02:53
bob2kvirc - Fully scriptable graphical IRC client with plugin support02:53
x[BrB] xso how can i install that?02:53
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bob2x[BrB] x: sudo aptitude install kvirc02:54
x[BrB] xi think i'll have a hard time here downloading mp3 :)02:54
bob2or with whatever package manager you normally use02:54
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mptSomehow I ended up with two copies of gnome-panel running, the second of which puts up an error alert of the form "I've detected a panel already running, and will now exit", but then is restarted as soon as it exits. Logging out and logging in again still gives me two gnome-panels. Even using the terminal to kill both of them at once doesn't work, as both come back. How can I vanquish one of them permanently?02:55
x[BrB] xbob2 how can i go and make a shortcut on my download folder?02:55
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bob2mpt: system -> prefereneces -> session, maybe02:56
bob2(hi)02:56
Jowimpt: have a look in gnome-session-properties to see if you've got two panels there. if so remove one of them.02:56
mpthi bob202:56
mptthis is where I wish preferences tools had an Edit menu so I could copy and paste02:57
aftertafx[BrB] x:  didnt you see my answer an hour ago?02:57
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x[BrB] xno aftertaf02:58
x[BrB] x:(02:58
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mptbob2, Jowi: thanks, that worked02:59
x[BrB] xbob2 whats next?02:59
Antiochhmph... even thought xorg drivers came out, I guess ati in linux is a bit of a dream still02:59
bob2x[BrB] x: all done03:00
bob2I don't understand your shortcut question, but you have kvirc now03:00
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imterrohi....] 03:00
imterrois there a command to check the pc temp?03:00
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bob2it's hardware specific, sadly03:01
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imterrohmm.... so how would i go about finding out such things?03:02
dealthi just a quick q: wat does CVS: login failed?03:04
dealtmeans?03:04
dealthow do i configure cvs client?03:04
robotgeekdealt: just try again03:04
mptimterro: is there a "digitemp" package in universe? (it's in debian)03:04
imterroill check now03:05
imterroapparently not03:05
mptnarf03:06
Jowi!info digitemp03:06
ubotudigitemp: (Program to read from temperature sensors in a 1-Wire net), section universe/electronics, is optional. Version: 3.3.2-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 109 kB, Installed size: 376 kB03:06
Jowi:)O03:06
imterrobleh it didnt show up when i searched for it on aptitude03:07
dealtrobotgeek:thanks03:07
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lifelessjdub says sorry, his net is down03:08
imterrohmm stil doesnt show up....03:08
imterroodd03:08
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imterroalthough i did find the following03:09
imterrolibsensors-dev - Lm-sensors development kit03:09
imterrolibsensors3 - Library to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors03:09
imterrolm-sensors - Utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors03:09
imterrosensord - Hardware sensor information logging daemon03:09
imterrophpsysinfo - PHP Based Host Information03:09
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KriS83Hi03:09
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battletuxhi all03:09
SeveasNEVER paste in here03:09
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Seveasthere are pastebins for that03:10
nightswimand rubbish bins03:10
puterfixerbah, I downloaded like 30 megs of docs and still didn't get what I wanted.03:10
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DewDudeoooh....i now have BitlBee and CGI:IRC running on this little box03:11
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Seveashi jdub :)03:11
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imterrosorry about that03:12
jdubGOOD MORNING FREEDOM LOVERS!03:12
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kevorb03:12
aftertafjdub:  Arr matey03:12
bob2Seveas: I'd think /remove would be better than banning someone03:12
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Seveasbob2, it's not a ban03:13
Seveasit's a +q03:13
bob2yes, I know03:13
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Seveasthe new freenode servers just show it as bans03:13
bob2alriiighty then03:14
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battletuxwhy is sun-j2re1.5 always disappering from the repos?03:15
apokryphosbattletux: legal issues03:15
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battletuxreally? what a pain in the butt03:16
apokryphosbattletux: Indeed. Currently you'll either have to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions or be on Breezy, unfortunately.03:17
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reiki_workso is there a correct method of getting j2re from Sun and installing it properly in Ubuntu? (I admit I haven't looked at the wiki yet on that question)03:17
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reiki_workanswered while asking.... you guys are psychic03:17
Seveasreiki_work, yes there is, th wiki explains it03:17
battletuxapokryphos: i just got rid of breezy arghh!03:17
battletuxwiki it is then03:18
tylohello fellows03:18
apokryphosaloha =)03:18
battletuxhi03:18
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mik3is there a command i can use to see all the applications i've installed?03:19
apokryphosmik3: dpkg -l03:19
apokryphosmik3: will list all installed packages03:19
Seveasdpkg --get-selections03:19
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afaikis security.debian.org down!?03:20
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WebLOCHoreet everyone03:20
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bob2neither of those show what mik3 asked for03:21
WebLOCHSeveas, how are you doing today?03:21
WebLOCHmorning bob2 !03:21
bob2mik3: "dpkg -l | grep ^ii" or "dpkg --get-selections | grep installed$"03:21
WebLOCHI am back with yet more entertaining problems03:21
Seveasbob2, grep -v deinstalled ;)03:22
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Seveas;)03:23
WebLOCHhahaha03:23
WebLOCHI have some Java based problems03:23
WebLOCHYou'd love to help me03:23
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SeveasWebLOCH, how did you install java03:23
WebLOCHunfortunately, I have installed the JDK using a binary03:24
WebLOCHit was netbeans + jdk03:24
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Seveasdang :\03:24
WebLOCHhowever I have come to realise that it didnt register the JRE on my system03:24
Seveasyou should use make-jpkg with those binaries...03:24
battletuxapokryphos: Wiki helped with installing java thanks :)03:24
WebLOCHwassat ?03:24
Hoxzercan somebody help me to use direct connect?03:24
SeveasWebLOCH, remove whatever it installed03:24
apokryphosexcellent03:24
Seveasand apt-get install java-package03:24
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phlaxhi - does anyone know the status of the ltmodem driver in breezy - it says its supposed to be in the linux-restricted-mods packages - but its not there?03:24
WebLOCHis java-package the Sun setup ?03:25
SeveasWebLOCH, it can create debs from sun bin files03:25
WebLOCHoh03:25
Seveaslook at wiki.ubuntu.com/Java for details03:25
bob2phlax: find it on packages.ubuntu.co03:25
battletuxWebLOCH: follow the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions but goto www.java.com for the .bin download03:25
WebLOCHbattletux, Seveas,  I am following that guyide now, but how do I uninstall the bin i have already installed?03:26
phlaxbob2: thanx - ill take a look03:27
battletuxpass, proberbly03:27
WebLOCHSeveas - Is there a way to remove the bin installation or do I simply delete the program folders?03:29
WebLOCHanyone about ?03:32
WebLOCHAm I still connected?03:32
aftertaflol....03:32
SeveasWebLOCH, install /usr/local/java or wherever it installed03:32
SeveasWebLOCH,*remove* /usr/local/java or wherever it installed03:33
WebLOCHokay03:33
aftertafin cyberspacenoone can hear you scream, when you peer disconnect anyway03:33
WebLOCHSeveas, I sometimes use command line and other times use netbeans, is it possible to install both the JRE and JDK03:33
WebLOCH(i know the JDK has a version of the JRE bundled)03:33
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phlaxbob2: no the lrm packages listed on packages.ubu... are out of date and the only one in the repositories is the version i have (wout ltmodem)03:37
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battletuxis it safe to assume that the disapperance of w32codecs is due to legal reasons too?03:45
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Echelon-His there a program to edit MP3 information?03:48
robotgeekEchelon-H: easytag03:48
battletuxsudo apt-get install easytag03:48
Echelon-Hthx03:49
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battletuxdoes anyone know a source for w32codecs for hoary?03:53
Nermalaye03:53
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Nermalhmm.. no ibot03:53
reiki_workif I've already pulled down the w32 codecs... is my system storing the package or do they get purged from time to time03:54
Nermalstoring it03:55
aftertafreiki_work:  check in /var/cache/apt03:55
Nermalin /var/cache/apt/archives/03:55
aftertafubotu:  tell battletux about restricted03:55
reiki_workaftertaf: okies... at work at the moment but I'll look when I get home to see how much space that stuff is taking up. :)03:55
Nermalbattletux, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia?highlight=%28w32codecs%29#head-555ae0b86e1dd8f327d8c042589100b9d889fcb603:56
aftertafreiki_work:  hehe... but when yopu update, it updates part of the package, not a full d/l of each package each time.......03:56
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Echelon-Hwhat's the command to change permission?03:57
kemikchmod03:57
battletuxaftertaf, nermal: thanks all i know is that it worked on the repos yesterday03:57
djtanseyis there a way change the method gnu/linux/ubuntu allocates memory to swap? I just upgraded to 1.25GB of ram and want things to stay in memory as long as possible.03:57
Nermaldjtansey, erm... thats fine.. I presume you are running a 686 kernel though to get high memory support ?03:59
aftertafbattletux:  you can get it IIRC on the mplayer homepage...03:59
battletuxaftertaf, odd i already have restricted et all in the backports, but it just comes up that the package is not availalble04:00
bob2djthe kernel almost certainly knows better than you04:00
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Nermalbob2, I was thinking the same04:00
bob2djtansey: /proc/sys/vm/swappiness lets you influence it, tho, if oyu insist04:00
Nermaloooh04:01
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seliniumoooh!04:01
djtanseyNermal: yes, i am.04:01
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djtanseybob2: probably... just don't know how quickly it moves things to swap. I upgraded to 1.25 so I could stop worrying about openoffice or something that has been in the background all day taking forever to come out of swap.04:03
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mypapithey guys..04:03
!lilo:*! A momentary bit of senility will now ensue for [freenode-hints] and freenode-connect's VERSION request. Please bear with us.04:03
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markrianI'm having problems with gnome-screensaver activating whilst I'm still actively using the machine - moving the mouse etc.. Anyone else having that problem?04:03
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mypapitsuddenly i lost all my menu icons in ubuntu 5.04 (GNOME) ... i dont know why... anybody know about this?04:04
seliniumAnyone know of a decent mysql admin app other than phpmyadmin?04:04
markrian(Obviously I'm using breezy)04:04
ORiON2012selinium: mysql-admin04:04
ORiON2012selinium: :)04:04
ORiON2012selinium: GTK based04:04
bob2djtansey: there are people who basically work full time on tuning the algorithm that decides when to swap stuff out04:04
seliniumORiON2012, ROFL, I'll take a look!04:05
zackmarkrian: i've seen it once before on my X41, but not since04:05
bob2markrian: do file a bug04:05
djtanseybob2: very well, then. i will trust you and the kernel. thanks for the info, thoguh.04:05
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nygmai'm trying to configure my onboard realtek alc880 sound device... i have a asus 95gpl motherboard and am running horary04:06
nygmaany idea how to ?04:06
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ORiON2012nygma: configure in what way?04:06
AtaraxHello04:07
bob2djtansey: the kernel sometimes decides the perforance gain from having more disk cache outweighs the potential cost of swapping back in bits of openoffice04:07
nygmaas in get sound to play frm the speakers ;)...currently i have no sound output04:07
bob2(i nthe case you're asking about)04:07
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zackas i understand it OOo's startup has less to do with disk swapping and more to do with actual processing04:08
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zackin which case the only way to make it start up faster is to not quit it in the first place04:08
nygmabasically i got fed up with xp so i switched to linux..managed to get everything setup properly with no hassles except sound04:09
nygmahave no idea how to get alsa or esd to work04:09
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nygmaso any one have any clue how to proceed ?04:10
twoSharpnygma: have you checked alsamixer?04:10
!lilo:*! FYI, the VERSION command is per http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#freenodeconnect .... this utility had not been running due to the hyperion upgrade, and we're just putting it back online. It seemed a good time to do a complete stats run and clonebot check, and while some of you will have seen the message twice, this should be the last time you get one (other than at connect) for a while.04:11
Jowidjtansey: sorry for getting in late in the discussion. I set my swappiness to 10 which suit my system well. a good intro to the swappiness behaviour and how to change it can be found here (scroll down for swappiness): http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management04:11
nygmain wht way...i have no idea abt alsamixer...complete linux noob :(04:11
ORiON2012nygma: try an "sudo lspci", is your card detected?04:11
Jowioh, he quit :-/04:12
Jowiheh04:12
Jowii think that means its time for a coffee04:13
nygmanope, it detects the graphics card, processor, ethernet controller and usb, sATA, IDE controllers04:13
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twoSharpnygma: open terminal and write "alsamixer" then press enter ;) and then you use the arrows to navigate trough the output/input channels04:14
ORiON2012nygma: realtek offers drivers for your ACL880   http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/dlhd-2.aspx?lineid=2004052&famid=2004052&series=2004061&Software=True04:14
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ORiON2012nygma: I can't actually find if anything in the official kernel supports that chipset04:15
zacknygma: what kernel are you on?04:15
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zacknygma: i think 2.6.12 supports it. the module is called 'snd-hda-intel'04:17
nygmai'm on a 2.6.10.5-38604:17
zacktry 'modprobe snd-hda-intel' anyway04:17
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nygmabtw alsamixer threw an error : alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory04:18
nygmahow do i upgrade the kernel ?04:18
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zacknygma: did you try loading the module?04:18
nygmasynpatic shows no upgrades ?04:18
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puffMorning... ubuntu is failing to bring up gnome fully... I get the login screen, log in, get the plain brown background and blank white menu bars across the top and bottom, and then it displays a "Cannot bring up HAL" popup.  Click "OK" and the popup goes away, and gnome still doesn't finish coming up.04:19
pittipuff: argh, that again?04:19
puffpitti: YeaH?04:19
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nygmanot found :(..hopefully the realtek drivers will fix the problem04:19
pittipuff: please upgrade to the latest breezy dbus and reboot04:19
puffI hit ctl-alt-f1 to ssh out to login.04:19
puffEr, to login and ssh out to an account where I can run an irc client :-)./04:20
puffpitti: Breezy dbus?04:20
pittipuff: erm, or are you using hoary?04:20
puffhoary.04:20
pittipuff: ah, ok04:20
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pittipuff: that's an entirely different bug then04:20
zacknygma: those drivers are for 2.2.14, i wouldn't even bother04:20
pittipuff: breezy preview had a nasty dbus bug04:20
puffissuing reboot as root didn't reboot, had to finally hold down the power switch... same thing happened again, so here I am.04:20
pittipuff: please try the current daily breezy live CD in that case, can you?04:21
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nygmaso then what do i do ?04:21
zacknygma: if you upgrade to breezy, it should work.04:21
zackthen again, that in itself might be frustrating.04:21
puffWeird... gnome just chuckled at me, so I hit alt-f7 and now I have the desktop background and icons, but no menu bars :-).04:21
nygmabreezy stable enough yet ?04:21
zackit has been quite good here04:22
ORiON2012nygma: relatively, still lots of updates going on04:22
puffpitti: Is there a good mailing list for ubuntu beginners?04:22
zackoh, which type of 'stable' did you mean?04:23
sproingieoccasional calamitous need to fix xorg.conf aside, breezy's pretty stable for me04:23
pittipuff: ubuntu-users is meant for user support, but it is high traffic04:23
nygmastable as in 24X7 non crash04:23
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pittipuff: many folks prefer the forum04:23
waterbaby999can anyone recommend a good dvd player? used to use ogle under redhat/fedora...anything better?04:23
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ORiON2012sproingie: I don't get it, been running since Colony CD 1 and I've never had X break04:23
pittipuff: www.ubuntuforums.org04:24
x[BrB] xbob2 how can i set my computer not to go idle?04:24
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puffpitti: Is there a mailing list gateway?04:24
sproingieORiON2012: lucky you.  the font path thing was deadly right from the start.  ATI cards also have the fglrx driver conflict with another module, so that has to be commented out04:24
zacknygma: hard to say, i have some very new hardware not supported by hoary - i expect a few crashes.04:24
ORiON2012waterbaby999: VLC and XINE both have menu support, mplayer if you don't care about fancy full motion menus04:24
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sproingieORiON2012: a shutdown still locks something up04:25
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zackwaterbaby999: try totem-xine.04:25
pittipuff: yes04:25
zacknice and easy04:25
puffpitti: Cool.04:25
ablyssl'o all04:25
waterbaby999ahh i need to have menus for these dvd's really04:25
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sproingienygma: you want 24x7 reliability, you want a tandem.  otherwise, depends on what sort of thing you're expecting it to do04:26
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x[BrB] xhow can i set my computer not to go idle? after a long time inactivity04:26
nygmaactually was looking at more like stability like no unexpected fatal crashes (windows style :-) )04:27
k31thpower settings'04:27
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Mezanyone know how to turn off the tap to click on a laptop?04:27
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ORiON2012nygma: I'm using it as my LAN's file, print, mythtv, backup server for a while with no random crashes04:27
x[BrB] xk3lth where can i find that?04:28
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puffHow do I list the original windows partition on this machine?04:28
nygmaanyway, can anyone point me to a good resource for configuring sound on linux04:28
k31thapi i think04:28
k31thmight be some where in gnome04:28
sproingienygma: kernel panics or hard lockups?  pretty unlikely.  individual apps crashing?  perhaps, depends what you use04:28
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puffI want to copy the data I put on this drive to the original windows partition, do a fresh ubuntu install, then copy it back over to the ubuntu partition.04:28
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x[BrB] xif im downloading a file from irc then my computer has benn inactive will my downloading stops???04:29
nygmaindividual apps crashing is expected...what i wouldn't want is another parition table screwup, my bro managed to screw the mbr and partitions when he was fiddling round with xp...don't want anything like that happening ever again04:29
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ORiON2012nygma: as per this page (http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/chipset_intel_hda_realtek) it appears you need the 1.0.9 alsa drivers which aren't included in hoary, so you can compile yourself or upgrade to breezy04:30
p0windahmsg seveas username:password for freenx repository ?04:30
p0windahI say, oops04:30
waterbaby999yeah, totem is installed .. do i need to do anything else to allow it to play dvd's at all ?04:30
ORiON2012nygma: in frenh but you get the idea04:30
PhilyAny xchat guru here?04:31
nygmayep, small question how do i go about upgrading via snaptic ?04:31
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nygmasynaptic i mean04:31
waterbaby999hehe, i use xchat but wouldnt proclaim to be an expert04:31
sproingienygma: that's something a bleeding edge kernel would do ... breezy uses stable kernels afaik, so you're safe04:31
sproingienygma: of course since linus now considers the stable kernel branch to be the playground of developers, there really is no "stable" 2.6 kernel now, just older ones04:32
ORiON2012nygma: change you /etc/apt/sources.list to read "breezy" instead of "hoary" then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:32
puffpitti: For reference, this is a thinkpad t43p, and it seemed fairly stable for the first month or so.  I can't pin-point when problems started, but I attempted to apt-get linux-686 shortly before things started getting wacky.04:32
Philywaterbaby999, do you know how to set a keyb shortcut to change tabs04:33
x[BrB] xif im downloading a file from irc then my computer has benn inactive will my downloading stops???04:34
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waterbaby999Settings>advanced>keyboard shortcuts?04:34
ORiON2012x[BrB] x: inactive as in hibernating, or just the monitor is off?04:35
x[BrB] xso you mean it wont affect my downloading04:35
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waterbaby999urrrrrrrrrrgh why do people insist on using realplayer04:35
waterbaby999WHYYYYYYY04:35
tristanmikeit's quaint04:36
!lilo:*! hints and freenode-connect should be through playing catch-up, thank you for your patience!04:36
Philywaterbaby999, theirs an option to move the tab order but not swithc from one to the other unless I dont understant04:36
ORiON2012x[BrB] x: no, as long as it doesn't go into some sort of power saving mode04:36
x[BrB] xorion2012 how can i check on that??04:36
waterbaby999have u tried asking around on xchat.org and the xchat irc room?04:36
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ORiON2012x[BrB] x: if you hear the fans turn off on your computer... ?04:37
ablysswhere do I report bugs in breezy ?04:37
Philywaterbaby999, im on xchat channel now but its a graveyard now04:37
waterbaby999aww, maybe wait till laters :)04:37
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waterbaby999someone might know, i dont unfortunately :)04:37
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ORiON2012ablyss: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/04:37
ablyssalso where do I report security holes in all versions of ubuntu?04:37
ORiON2012ablyss: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/04:38
ablyssty04:38
tamarackhi04:38
ablysssaved to bookmarks04:38
tamarackhas anyone figured out what happened to j2re and w32codecs in the repos?04:38
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x[BrB] xcoz everytime i left my computer when i came back it ask me for a password04:38
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tamarackthey're still missing04:38
x[BrB] xthats y i just want to make sure of it :)04:39
Robinho_Peixotowhen it goes to happen the string frezer04:39
ORiON2012x[BrB] x: that's just a screensave, just because the monitor powers down doesn't mean the computer does too04:39
clem_yeatstamarack : which repos ? This are non-free..04:39
clem_yeatss/this/these/eg;04:39
tamarackI think they were in backports or extras04:39
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x[BrB] xok thanks :)04:39
tamarackof which I have both04:39
clem_yeatshmm... ok.04:39
tamarackI've seen some mentions of other people on the forums having the same issue04:39
tamarackthey just disappeared maybe yesterday or the day before04:40
tamarackand I just did a fresh install on my laptop :(04:40
tamarackheh04:40
narkcehWhats the problem with my sources.list? I cannot install azureus, w32codecs, java? http://pastebin.com/36804204:41
apokryphosnarkceh: they were taken out of hoary-extras04:41
apokryphosnarkceh: legal issues.04:41
tamarackheh04:41
tamarackwell there's someone with the same problem04:41
tamarackthey're missing from the repositories04:42
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tamarackoh04:42
tamarackdoh04:42
narkcehapokryphos: dammit. how can i install those than?04:42
tamarackpardon me :)04:42
waterbaby999do i need to get some codecs and whatnot to play mpegs and mp3s/dvd's/etcetcetc?04:42
apokryphosnarkceh: azureus, you can use the pack from their website; w32codecs isn't really available, and java: either https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions or upgrade to breezy04:43
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HajuuHi04:44
d2dchat_how do i setup my wireless?04:44
tamarackD2DChat, depends on your card04:45
tamarackthe chipset that is04:45
d2dchat_how can i look that up?04:45
[LethAL] d2dchat_, Which card is it?04:45
HajuuUm.. I used to use a generic sound blaster sound card... It had some really wierd name with numbers and stuff but used pretty much any standard creative drivers.. Um.. Just upgraded to a soundblaster live... it automatically picked it up and installed some drivers and *was* working.. Then I had my mic throughput turned on so I went into mixer settings and disabled it and it made this really high pitch squeel through the speakers and th04:45
narkcehapokryphos: well. thanks.04:45
Hajuuen I restarted and now I have no sound at all and nothing is detecting my card :/ any ideas?04:45
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d2dchat_Its a linksys i believe04:46
tamarackD2DChat, what's the brand name?04:46
tamarackah04:46
[LethAL] Model number?04:46
tamarackdo a google search on the model number04:46
[LethAL] ^^04:46
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tamarackI think linksys uses their own chipset04:47
tamarackyou might have to use ndiswrapper with your windows drivers to get it to work04:47
nygmahello, can someone tell me how to upgrade from horary to breezy via synaptic (if that is possible)04:47
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tamaracknygma: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:47
sproingienygma: replace hoary with breezy in sources.list, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:47
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HajuuAnyone? :(04:48
tamarackheh, yah that part too04:48
d2dchat_its hard to look in there lol04:48
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anatoleokt 104:48
anatolewooo04:48
tamarackdo you still have the box the card came in?04:48
anatolenot here04:48
anatole:D04:48
tamarackor the manual?04:48
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tamarackis it a G card?04:49
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ORiON2012nygma: click settings->repositories->edit each one, replace "hoary" with "breezy".  click reload, mark all upgrades and you're done04:49
Hajuuhow do I start alsa from the commandline?04:49
d2dchat_its a G04:49
apokryphosubotu: tell nygma about upgrade2breezy04:49
tamarackdid you check under System -> Administration -> Networking?04:49
sproingieHajuu: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart04:49
tamarackyour card might already be working04:49
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d2dchat_i only have eth004:50
Hajuuif there was something wrong with my drivers or something, alsa should fail to start or error or something yeah?04:50
tamarackand I'm assuming that's your wired interface?04:50
d2dchat_yes04:50
d2dchat_Ethernet04:50
tamarackk04:50
tamarackwell get ndiswrapper from synaptic04:51
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d2dchat_utils?04:51
puffHow friendly is the breezy install?04:51
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puffEr, how upgrade-friendly?  I have data on this machine that I want to keep.04:52
tamarackthe upgrade went well for me04:52
tamarackD2DChat, yes04:52
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puffHm.04:52
Red_Bulletplease help me how to stat perl irc bot ?04:53
puffSo I guess I could download & build a breezy CD.04:53
Red_Bulletdoes aybody knows about perl irc bot ?04:53
d2dchat_why is it asking for the cd rom?04:53
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tamarackit's on the cdrom I believe :-)04:54
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avalostRed_Bullet: why 'perl' sepcifically?04:54
brrrthello all04:54
d2dchat_shit i dont it with me right on?04:54
d2dchat_wow04:54
d2dchat_i didnt understand what i said04:54
d2dchat_i dont have it with me04:54
d2dchat_the cd04:54
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tamaracklol04:54
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brrrtdoes anyone know how to mount a mac os 9 harddisk on a i386 ubuntu?=04:54
FallenOnecan anyone help me?04:54
puffbrrrt: Hello.  No, I don't.04:55
p0windahhey I just installed seveas freenx stuff, and it all works good. except fonts arent being rendered...04:55
d2dchat_why isn't there a place online to get it04:55
puffFallenOne:  Depends on what your problem is, but lots of people are helpful here, ask and see.04:55
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tamarackactually, it may be in the hoary extras repositories04:55
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Red_Bulletavalost: i dont know how to start perl bot04:55
avalostp0windah: unicode?04:55
tamarackI don't remember04:55
FallenOneWell , i left the password field blank at the intall and now i leave the password field blank and it says it wrong =S04:55
avalostRed_Bullet: err, try ./botname04:55
p0windahavalost: the system is using unicode, yes04:55
tamarackyou should add hoary extras and hoary backports to your repositories04:56
avalostp0windah: that may be the problem04:56
Red_Bulletavalost:  because perl is easyest04:56
p0windahavalost: it no longer works with unicode ?04:56
avalostRed_Bullet: err, no it's not04:56
avalostget yourself an energymech and start there04:56
Red_Bulletwhich bot is the easyest04:56
avalostp0windah: it *should* work with unicode, however some machines tend to get bungled04:56
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Red_Bulletavalost:04:56
p0windahavalost: well the unicode on this machine is not bungled04:56
avalostyou're certain04:57
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narkcehapokryphos: could you please tell me how to install azureus because I have no idea. I downloaded Azureus_2.3.0.4_linux.GTK.tar.bz2 is this right?  btw. Java installation system worked and thanks for you.04:57
d2dchat_i dont see hoary extras and backports04:57
Seveasp0windah, fonts aren't rendered where?04:57
p0windahavalost: unicode is working a-ok with traditional and simplified chinese and english and scim is working good04:57
kevorisn't there anything like the OsX launchbar with the enlarging icons (something less buggy then gdesklets)04:57
apokryphosnarkceh: untar it first, yup04:57
avalosthmm, interesting04:58
p0windahSeveas: I fired up fvwm95 and menus are blank boxs, same with twm04:58
narkcehapokryphos: how can i untar it?04:58
Seveascheck the fontpaths in /etc/nxserver/node.conf04:58
apokryphosnarkceh: tar jxf <file>04:58
Seveascompare them with the ones in /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:58
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p0windahSeveas: gotcha04:58
p0windahSeveas: thanks for the repo. btw04:59
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Seveasyw04:59
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No1VikingWhat happened with the ubuntuguide?05:00
tamarackd2dchat_, add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list file05:00
tamarackdeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted05:00
tamarackjust put it at the end05:00
tamarackthen type sudo apt-get update05:00
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tamarackthen try and get it05:01
d2dchat_i already have that at the bottom interestingly enough05:01
narkcehapokryphos: and than?05:01
apokryphosnarkceh: check the readme05:02
apokryphosnarkceh: you just have to open a file there; don't recall the exact name05:02
FallenOnelol im not getting support :/05:03
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HajuuOk so um.. alsa gives no error when starting... but I get no sound... any ideas why?05:03
tamarackd2dchat_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%2905:03
p0windahSeveas: its the AGENT_EXTRA_OPTIONS_X line ? I made it match everything in xorg.conf and it didnt help05:03
tamarackthat should be more help than I am05:04
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d2dchat_tamarack, hehe ty05:04
tamaracknp05:04
FallenOneok i'll ask it again05:04
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tamarackand don't worry, it's usually pretty painless to setup05:04
FallenOneWell , i left the password field blank at the intall and now i leave the password field blank and it says it wrong =S05:04
Seveasp0windah, in that case I have no more ideas05:05
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apsynchi, where/how can I see how much space I have left on my harddisk(s) ?05:05
p0windahk05:05
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Jowiapsync: df -h05:05
p0windahI'll fiddle, thx anyway seveas05:06
apsyncthank you05:06
tamarackis anyone using the i810/i915 drivers?05:06
tamarackmtrr: base(0xe8020000) is not aligned on a size(0x600000) boundary05:06
FallenOneomfg..l.05:06
apsyncJowi,  and where stands 'df' for?05:06
FallenOneSeveas05:06
FallenOneDo u understand my problem which i get no help for05:07
FallenOne(no replies)05:07
p0windahFallenOne: I'm pretty sure "I forgot my password" is covered in the multitude of guides05:07
Jowiapsync: NO idea. not even the man page say what it stands for. But it does list the filesystem information.05:07
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puffHm, do I need to make a breezy install CD, or can I download it to the drive and run it from there?05:08
_rb_hey. anyone really good with gzip ?05:08
apsyncah Ok, thank you :)05:08
SeveasFallenOne, I don't even know the problem :)05:08
Jowiapsync: just type "df -h" in a terminal05:08
apsyncjup worked05:08
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FallenOneSaveas: Well , i left the password field blank at the intall and now i leave the password field blank and it says it wrong =S05:08
avalost_rb_: problem?05:09
puffFallenOne: Simply repeating your problem is generally considered rude and annoying, and likely to decrease your odds of getting help.05:09
_rb_i wanna know how to get gzip to output files as it decompresses, but i want it to start a certain number of files in05:09
pl_icehi, got a problem killed my Desktop ...05:09
FallenOnePuff:i replied to savea05:09
_rb_ive been importing a dump, and the problem is that i crashed after 100700 pages, and i want to resume further down05:09
avalosterp, unsure05:10
puffFallenOne: Try this URL:  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=ubuntu+%22forgot+my+password%22&btnG=Search05:10
_rb_its just using -dc > then a script running thru php05:10
_rb_i just want to "resume" by telling it to start decompressing and supply the files 100k into it or so05:11
bob2to be fair, your problem is fairly self-inflicted05:12
SeveasFallenOne, login in recovery mode and use passwd your_username05:12
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FallenOnei did in recovry but then05:13
FallenOneit says05:13
trigger_phhowdy05:13
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FallenOneroot @ my local host name05:13
FallenOnein sum command prompt05:13
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Seveasgood05:14
sertmannhey, breezy doesn't detect my soundcard, a Creative SoundBlaster Live, what gives?05:14
Seveasthen type passwd your_username_here05:14
trigger_phhi. would anyone know of nice repositories of themes for ubuntu?05:15
Seveas!themes05:15
ubotumethinks themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com05:15
trigger_phthanks Seveas05:15
bob2sertmann: you're sure? the snd_emu10k1 module really isn't loaded?05:15
sertmannbob2, sure no... but it says it's not detected05:16
bob2sertmann: "it says"? where?05:16
sertmannbob2, under the boot05:16
sertmannbob2, ALSA that is....05:17
bob2alsa prints "I did not find a SB Live card"?05:17
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sertmannbob2, alsa prints something along the lines of 'soundcard not detected'05:17
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HajuuOk so um.. alsa gives no error when starting... but I get no sound... any ideas why?05:18
Nermalbreezy preview install cds working ok ?05:18
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bob2sertmann: so, run lsmod and see if the module is loaded?05:18
bob2actually, nevermind05:18
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apsyncwhat's a good place to put data in ? /etc/ ?05:18
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Seveasapsync, your homedir...05:19
AndieBHi all!05:19
sertmannbob2, well emu10k1 is there...05:19
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sertmannconflict with my onboard ac97 maybe?05:21
apsyncSeveas, homedir = personal folder ? (Where Desktop is)05:21
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HajuuOk so um.. alsa gives no error when starting... but I get no sound... any ideas why?05:21
FallenOnesaveas05:21
FallenOnelike this05:21
Seveasapsync, yes05:21
AndieBAnyone who can help me out with adding CODECs for TOTEM player?05:21
apsyncah Ok, thank you05:21
FallenOnepasswd fallenone05:21
FallenOne?05:21
AndieBOr should I use another player for Video?05:21
SeveasAndieB, install gstreamer-plugins-universe05:21
Seveasor w32codecs if you use totem-xine05:22
AndieBSeveas: Thank you!05:22
Nermalapsync, /opt05:22
Nermalor your home dir05:22
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apsyncok05:22
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sktrdiewhere's the linux kernel source located in ubuntu05:22
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ORiON2012sktrdie: linux-source05:23
narkcehapokryphos: I installed azureus and it worked. But it didn't make any shotcuts. Before when apt-get worked it make a shortcut in gnome -> internet -> azureus05:23
Seveassktrdie, package linux-source-2.6.1005:23
AndieBSeveas: I don't have it in Synaptic Package Manager...?05:23
sktrdieORiON2012: where is that?05:23
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SeveasAndieB, enable universe :)05:23
sktrdieORiON2012: I mean in which path05:23
netbugzanyone know a cdwriting app for ubuntu??05:23
apokryphosnarkceh: you can make them; use smeg or whatever =)05:23
ORiON2012sktrdie: it's a package you must install, then you can find it in /usr/src05:23
narkcehapokryphos: smeg?05:24
sktrdieORiON2012: I have it already installaed05:24
sktrdiebut it's not there05:24
bob2sktrdie: why do you want the kernel source?05:24
Seveasnetbugz, gnomebaker, graveman, serpentine, k3b, nautilus, cdrecord....05:24
puffBlah.05:24
puffHm.05:24
apokryphosubotu: tell narkceh about smeg05:24
ORiON2012sktrdie: /usr/src/linux-(version)05:24
bob2netbugz: the gnome file manager can burn data cds05:24
AndieBSeveas: Universe? You mean repository?05:24
netbugzsomething that can duplicate even a copyrighted CD??05:24
HajuuI know you were all very concerned, but I got it going05:24
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sertmannmpg123 gives, "can't open default sound device"05:25
narkcehapokryphos: cool. thanks.05:25
bob2netbugz: that appears to be off-topic05:25
SeveasAndieB, yes05:25
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Seveas!tell AndieB about repos05:25
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sktrdieORiON2012: but I want the one that is already configured the way I have my kernel now05:25
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sertmann!sound05:26
ubotusound is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/05:26
sproingienetbugz: not many linux cd burners handle copy protection unless it's something trivial.  you'll need a windows app like alcohol 12005:26
ORiON2012sktrdie: its a kernel image, there is no source05:26
Jowinetbugz: graveman is pretty nice. it has got a duplicate-cd option.05:26
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sktrdieORiON2012: basicallyI just need to change something in the config, what should I do?05:26
ORiON2012sktrdie: roll your own05:26
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tylois there a way to display the line numbers in gedit?05:27
morbiushow to make a cd installer bootable??05:27
morbiushow to make a cd installer bootable??05:27
Gmani have a question regarding breezy05:27
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morbiushow to make a cd installer bootable??05:27
sertmannabd aplay -l gives: device_list:218: no soundcards found...05:28
netbugzJowi netbugz: graveman is pretty nice. it has got a duplicate-cd option. <<< TNX05:28
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Gmancan you upgrade to breezy from hoary without reinstalling?05:28
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sproingieGman: yes.  change hoary to breezy in sources.list, then apt-get dist-upgrade05:28
morbiushow to make a cd installer coming from net bootable05:28
morbiushow to make a cd installer coming from net bootable?05:29
sproingiemorbius: stop repeating05:29
morbiussowi05:29
sktrdiejust get it from kernel.org and do it from there?05:29
morbiusok tbx05:29
sktrdieBut I dont know how to configure most of the stuff05:29
Gmanthanks sproingie - so i need to edit the repositories first..05:29
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ORiON2012sktrdie: may as well use the stuff with ubuntu patches for maximum compatibility05:30
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sproingieGman: yep.  it's a simple patch05:30
sktrdieORiON2012: How do I install patches btw?05:30
sproingieGman: er, s/patch/edit/  (got patching on my brain today)05:30
ORiON2012sktrdie: google can tell you that05:30
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sktrdieORiON2012: can I use the .config I have now and use to compile the new kernel in that .config?05:31
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Gmanthanks for the info!...i installed ubuntu only 2 days ago and i love it!05:31
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ORiON2012sktrdie: if all you're doing is changing one configuration option then yes, but if its a different kernel version .config then it is not wise05:32
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MaCaIs it possible to install ubuntu from its liveCD?05:32
sktrdieno it's the same05:32
sktrdieI guess05:32
sproingieMaCa: not last time i looked05:32
sktrdieit's 2.6.1205:32
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sktrdiejust i think the config is from 2.6.12-805:32
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narkcehapokryphos: how can i make a script named 'azureus'; ex. "./azureus" because i cannot make shortcut that i have to use terminal and go to azureus directory and use ./azureus?05:33
nxvlhi05:33
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nxvli have just download ans unpack DBDesigner405:33
nxvlbut when i try to run it05:34
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nxvli got this error: libXft.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:34
sproingienarkceh: you could just put the azureus directory in your path05:34
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Frafrahi all05:34
_rb_or drag the thing out of konqueror05:34
nxvli have install libXft, libXft-dev and libXft-dbg05:34
sproingienarkceh: or just create a link from the current azureus directory to your ~/bin directory05:34
_rb_navigate there iusing the terminal if you wish05:34
nxvlbut it still doesn't work05:34
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Pyfhow do i update my aptitude list?05:35
FrafraI'm trying to use efax, but it says me: "efax: 35:19 done, returning 4 (no response from modem)"05:35
sproingieor what _rb_ said, just drag the exe to your desktop with konq and click "make link here"05:35
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Frafrawhy?05:36
oO[NOVA] OoMY BUTT SAYS05:36
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oO[NOVA] Oodamn. sorry. my brother's messing with my pc05:36
narkcehsproingie: i got it. thanks05:36
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CatheloIf I have a fresh install of breezy beaver, is there an easy way to downgrade to hoary hedgehog or do I have to reinstall from scratch?05:38
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ORiON2012Cathelo: I've heard from several that downgrading does weird and bad things05:38
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ORiON2012Cathelo: but I've never tried05:38
p0windahsoftware configurations dont downgrade well05:39
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CatheloFair enough.05:39
nybblei'd just re-install...05:40
CatheloHave people been having lots of problems with beaver?  I'm finding it to be slow and having other little problems as well.  Any big known issues?05:40
nybblebeaver?05:40
p0windahhe means breezy05:40
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nybbleah05:40
nybblelol05:41
nybblei thought so05:41
ORiON2012Cathelo: no05:41
nybblei was just about to say that lol...05:41
nubbeI was hoping he didn't  :)05:41
LokeDKWould like to have mplayer for i686, but mplayer-686 - transitional dummy package which can be safely removed < what does that mean? that's the package description05:41
ORiON2012nybble: hedgehogs, badgers, it's all a bit confusing :)05:41
netbugzanyone know an app for writing ISO image to CD graveman cant do the job..05:41
nybbleCathelo: i was running it, but it broke on an X upgrade,05:41
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nybblenetbugz: use gnome?05:41
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nubbenetbugz, nautilus05:42
netbugzi use Ubuntu05:42
nybblenetbugz: i beleive you can right-click on an ISO and click burn or something05:42
nybbleGnome = Ubuntu default desktop05:42
nybbleNautalius = Gnome's File browser05:42
netbugztnx05:42
netbugzgot05:42
netbugzit05:42
netbugzLOL05:42
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nybbledid it work, netbugz?05:43
Jowinetbugz: graveman can absolutely burn ISO to CD.05:43
netbugzyah05:43
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fortnoxhey guys i dont know if anyone of you can give me a hint on what could be the problem i am having. when i do a "modprobe fglrx" its says fatal module not found. but if i do "vi /etc/modules" fglrx is added in there. Could anyone perhaps help?05:43
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netbugzJowi, it cant detect my writer05:44
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netbugzonly the image drive05:44
xKintaroUbuntu is the worst distro in Linux history.05:44
Jowinetbugz: ouch. ok.05:44
fortnoxxKintaro, then dont use it? nobody forcing you :)05:44
xKintaroI hate it.05:44
narkcehCould someone tell what should i write in my fstab that i could mount hdb ntfs?05:44
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AntiochWhy do you dislike it?05:45
Frafra!fax05:45
ubotuI don't know, Frafra05:45
Jowiubotu, tell narkceh about windowsdrives05:45
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p0windahI hate being a fatty, but I just cant stop eating fries baby05:45
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netbugzubuntu has online support05:45
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nybblep0windah: i hear ya05:45
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netbugzand its free05:45
nybbleyour looking at it lol05:45
Butcherbird-Jr!ubotu05:46
ubotuThaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/05:46
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netbugz!add me05:46
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ubotunetbugz: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about05:46
netbugzLOL05:46
nybblei've spent many an hour talking to ubotu...05:46
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nybbleubotu, tell nybble about add05:46
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netbugzuse the !05:47
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nybbleubotu, your so darn smart05:47
ubotunybble: Are you smoking crack?05:47
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nybblehehe05:47
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narkcehJowi: how can i run winmac_fstab?05:47
Jowinarkceh: it is all explained in the file itself05:48
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Echelon-Hhi.05:48
oO[NOVA] Ooget a winmac_f knife to winmac_fstab ;);)05:48
Echelon-HIs there any midi-gui player?05:48
EnderNineanyone know how to stop the screen from locking in breezy?05:48
narkcehJowi: sorry. i didnt read any.05:48
Jowinarkceh: look in the winmac_fstab that ubotu just gave you the link to.05:49
bur[n] erEnderNine: turn off the checkbox in your screensaver that says "lock screen on screensaver"05:49
robotgeekanyone using bittorrent, could you volunteer to test something for us?05:49
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netbugzanyone here know how to make Ragnarok Online run on Wine??05:49
Frafracan i receive fax on ubuntu?05:49
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bur[n] errobotgeek: ?05:49
Jowinarkceh: look for "instructions for use:"05:49
robotgeekbur[n] er: http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/ download a torrent, and see if you can download?05:49
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AndieBI've downloaded Apache2 via Synaptic Package Manager and installed it and at the same time de-installed Apache 1.13. Is there any Graphical config for Apache2?05:50
EnderNinebur[n] er: I did that.. still locks up05:50
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bur[n] errobotgeek: i'm goin for it05:50
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robotgeekbur[n] er: thanks05:50
bur[n] erEnderNine: as in a "hard" lock?  like you can't do anything?  or just lcoks the screen so you need to enter a password?05:50
butcherbird!ubotu05:50
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EnderNinebur[n] er: just locks it so I need to type my password05:51
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bur[n] errobotgeek: loads up fine.. though 0 peers & seeders05:51
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apokryphosbur[n] er: doesn't try to d/l ?05:51
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bur[n] errobotgeek: plus, it's old versions of java :)  update 1.5_05 was released05:51
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bur[n] erapokryphos: it's in my azureus... but no one to download from05:51
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trigger_ph!themes05:52
ubotuwell, themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com05:52
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bur[n] erEnderNine: i'm not sure there... u on breezy?05:52
robotgeekthe site did register your download, weird05:52
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EnderNinebur[n] er: yeah05:52
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nybble ibetter put on some pants, i can feel a breez-y05:53
nybblehehe05:53
bur[n] erEnderNine: u have both gnome-screensaver and xscreensaver installed by chance?05:53
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EnderNinebur[n] er: yeah.. they both came installed05:53
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bur[n] erEnderNine: update ;)05:53
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bur[n] ergnome-screensaver knocks out xscreensaver now05:53
pippohelp install  skype_1.2.0.11-1_i386.deb05:53
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AntiochDoes it?05:53
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morbiushow do i install java in fc2?05:54
apokryphosbur[n] er: ok, thanks for testing05:54
ORiON2012morbius: are you serious?05:54
bur[n] erapokryphos: np05:54
morbiusyes y?05:54
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ORiON2012morbius: look at the channel title05:54
PalaiyotLOL05:54
nybblemorbus, join #fedora05:54
nybblei think05:54
tommi^Hi. I'm installing gforge and it is a mess. I'm at a point where apt-get repots "/etc/php4/cgi/php.ini already configured, not changing." and it seems to hang there. How can I get more information from apt-get?05:55
Belutzjust tried the breezy preview livecd.... the new gnome is cool :D05:55
bur[n] eri have a favor to ask of someone now... can anyone test the "search" box in breezy's rhythmbox?  anytime I type something in there, RB crashes and won't come back till i dump my ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox directory05:55
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Palaiyotthis is UBUNTU not Fedora05:55
morbiusic i tot you can give me some help05:55
Palaiyotyeah but not Fedora05:55
AndieBSeveas: I downloaded the gstreamer as you said, but I can not view AVI files in my Totem player?05:55
bur[n] ermorbius: nope ;)  with ubuntu sure, not fc ;)05:55
Palaiyotchannel is UBUNTU05:55
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Belutztommi^: go to #gforge05:55
bur[n] er!tell AndieB about restrictedformats05:55
pippohelp install  skype_1.2.0.11-1_i386.deb05:55
tommi^Belutz, it's a configuration issue with dpkg's. Not specific to gforge, I guess. But I'll try there too, thanks05:56
morbiusok palaiyot!!!05:56
Seveasmorbius, why on earth do you think we support fedora..?05:56
EnderNineim having a problem with azureus too if anyone wants to help with that =p it just doesnt want to download and it crashes after awhile(thought the crashing was because of the screen locking)05:56
ORiON2012pippo: sudo dpkg -i skype_1.2.0.11-1_i386.deb05:56
morbiusumiyot ka na lng ng umiyot!!!!!05:56
Jowipippo: simply .. ehhh... ORiON2012 beat me to it :-)05:56
PalaiyotUlol05:56
AndieBbur[n] er: Thank you!05:56
Seveasmorbius, stick to english in here...05:56
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pippotnx i try05:57
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morbiusgago!!! hindi ka naman kinakausap!!!05:57
Palaiyotkick him he told me to feck my self05:57
AndieBAnother quess... i'm installing OpenOffice 2... do I have to Uninstall OpenOffice 1.1??05:57
morbiuspilipino nga naman!!!05:57
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narkcehJowi: /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda ntfs rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0 says now: bash: cd: /mnt/hda/: Permission denied05:57
ORiON2012Seveas: thanks05:57
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Palaiyotyour fault we tried to help but you cussed me05:58
narkcehJowi: that script made those directories but they were not good because they were something like /media/0 GB Disk (hdb1)/05:58
deFrysk!info msttcorefont05:58
deFrysk!info msttcorefonts05:58
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ubotumsttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB05:58
narkcehJowi: so i changed fstab and now i cant use that05:58
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Protequehey.05:58
ProtequeI suddenly got a problem on my computer,05:58
Seveasnarkceh, the script also creates symlinks like /dev/hdb105:58
FallenOnesaveas:i fallowed ur info but it doenst work , i do passwd fallenone, then it said new UNIX password then if i wanne type something it doenst show up05:58
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Protequepsmouce.c bad data from kbc fills the screen and then it instant reboots.05:59
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EnderNinehaving a problem with azureus05:59
SeveasFallenOne, nothing should show up....05:59
butcherbirdEnderNine, what kind of problem05:59
Jowinarkceh: well, obviously. try something like this then: /dev/hda1       /mnt/hda       ntfs    defaults,umask=000        0       005:59
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EnderNinebutcherbird: it wont download at all05:59
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EnderNinebutcherbird: sometimes I get a green smiley and such.. no errors and no nat problems but it just doesnt download06:00
apsyncask in #azureus  ?06:00
pippoi install skype but don't start because?06:00
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Seveaspippo, because something is wrong...06:00
FallenOneSeveas , well if i type something it keeps staying blank but if thats good k , but if i type the pass 2 times it said : Failed to auth password info or sumthing :S06:00
Seveaspost the error on the pastebin06:00
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SeveasFallenOne, without an exact error I can't say anything about it...06:01
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ORiON2012FallenOne: its a security feature, you don't want passwords displayed in plaintext so anyone walking by can see it06:01
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snowowlEnderNine: the torrent could be at fault06:01
butcherbirdEnderNine, if you change the port to like 8080 does it work? Showind any seeds?06:01
EnderNinesnowowl: I thought that but I have 3 different torrents up and none work06:02
j0nas`hey, what file do you need to edit to set an environment variable for all users at boot up?06:02
j0nas`for example say i wanted to make JAVA_HOME available to all users06:02
FallenOneSaveas : Ok it says Failed to auth the password infomation06:02
Palaiyotanyone know where i can ask help for WINE??06:02
EnderNinebutcherbird: ive changed the port multiple times and seeds do show up.. but it still doesnt download06:02
Seveasj0nas`, you should install java properly so you don't need that...06:02
SeveasPalaiyot, #wine06:02
j0nas`java package has been removed from hoary-extras repository06:02
j0nas`gotta go by hand now06:02
Seveas#winehq even06:02
Palaiyotno one there06:03
Seveasj0nas`, even than you can install it properly06:03
j0nas`how so?06:03
Seveaswith make-jpkg (exactly how the hoary-extras debs are made)06:03
apokryphosj0nas`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions06:03
butcherbirdEnderNine, sorry dont use azureus that much maybe someone else can help.06:04
j0nas`nevertheless, how would you set the env variable?06:04
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EnderNinebutcherbird: alright, thanks anyway =p06:04
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Seveasin /etc/bash.bashrc / /etc/profile / /etc/gdm.conf06:04
Seveas(all of them)06:04
FallenOneSaves : did u even read?06:04
j0nas`i cant imagine why you would need to set it in all 3 files...06:04
Seveasbecause the all reset the path depending on how you login...06:05
j0nas`oh okay06:05
SeveasFallenOne, yes and I do not believe that that's the exact error06:05
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Echelon-Hcan anyone help me with playing midi files?06:05
j0nas`what about if i add a dir /etc/rc.d and set the variables in a script, say java.sh?06:05
Seveaswouldn't help06:06
FallenOnesigh let me check again...sigh06:06
Seveasbecause the all reset the path depending on how you login... <---- 'reset'06:06
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Rawn027hello all, i have a quick questions on ppc64 ubuntu06:06
Rawn027when i go to shutdown or restart it freezes when my USB ports06:07
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snowowlThis is a stark, but I am starting a project to rewrite the linux kernel in common lisp - with comaptibilty, (extreme) modularity, correctness as main goals. Does anyone know of a similar project that I can reference.06:07
j0nas`how about if i created a symbolic link in /usr/local/bin, say "java", and added a link to the java path in alternatives?06:08
j0nas`would that work?06:08
dr_willisseen a Linux Perl kernel project once...  :P06:08
dr_willisas a joke.06:08
ORiON2012j0nas`: make-jpkg is your friend06:08
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dr_willisj0nas`,  thats how ive done it in the past. but its proberly not needed now.06:08
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j0nas`make-jpkg is a program?06:09
Seveasj0nas`, that's what installing it properly does...06:09
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odatubuntuhello everyone06:09
j0nas`or is make-jpkg an apt command?06:10
j0nas`i dont see in my path06:10
Seveasread the wikipage you were given...06:10
Frafracan i receive fax on ubuntu?06:10
ORiON2012j0nas`: sudo apt-get install java-package06:10
odatubuntuanyone able to help with networking?06:10
Jowiodatubuntu: that is a very general question06:11
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odatubuntulol06:11
odatubuntuJowi: i have a xp machine that i am able to access from ubuntu but not visa versa06:11
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Jowiodatubuntu: via what? ssh, samba?06:12
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odatubuntujowi, samba06:13
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Jowi!samba06:14
ubotuwell, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently06:14
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Jowiodatubuntu: have a look there :-)06:14
GhostFreemanWhere would I place a replacement icon for Firefox?06:14
odatubuntuk06:14
apsyncwhere can I see my system info (cpu speed,etc..)?06:14
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Da_SWATompaul, for the record, Ubuntu breezy just recognized my DVD burner :D06:15
ompaulapsync, cd /proc and poke about in there06:15
apsyncthank you06:15
DewDudebreezy is nice06:15
ORiON2012yup06:15
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Jowiapsync: hal-device-manager if you want something graphical06:16
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apsyncthanks06:16
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Palaiyotanyone here got Ragnarok to run in WINE?????06:17
ompaulDa_SWAT, great, emmmm so are you going to do the brave thing and upgrade - or wait for release :)06:17
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dr_willisPalaiyot,  check the wine forums perhaps?06:17
Palaiyotopsssss wrong chan sorry06:17
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jdermergod limewire molests my bandwidth06:19
dr_willis:)06:19
ompaulJowi, not really a patch on cat /proc/cpuinfo :)06:19
apokryphosAnyone want to test one of the sun torrents (http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/)?06:19
dr_willisdownloading the sun?06:20
jbroomei don't have enough drive space for the sun06:20
apokryphosdr_willis: if you can, please test one of the sun debs there to see if it downloads for you06:20
Jowiompaul: yeah that's my favourite as well. so much fun info in /proc :-)06:20
Butcherbird-Jrapokryphos, I got it but i dont see any peers or seeders06:21
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ThePyromaniachey guys06:21
ThePyromaniacwhat P2P software (if any) are you all using?06:21
apokryphosbutcherbird: what pack and what client you got there?06:21
ompauljbroome, just compress it using a black hole - and then we can all take this to #ubuntu-offtopic06:21
dabaRgtk-gnutella06:21
jbroomeompaul: :)06:21
jbroomenoted06:21
Butcherbird-Jrapokryphos, sun-j2re1.4_1.4.2+09_i386.deb06:21
ThePyromaniacdabaR: may have to investigate. i tried limewire but i need new java but cant get it :(06:22
ORiON2012ThePyromaniac: mldonkey06:22
ThePyromaniacwhats this i see about sun j2rel?06:22
dr_willisseems to be working for me.06:22
apokryphosButcherbird-Jr: gar06:22
dr_willisfirefox sent it to the gniome torrentt client and it took off. :P06:22
apsyncwhen I want to run something with 'sudo' do I still need the './' (./something, sudo ./something, or just sudo something)06:22
dr_willisapsync,  of course06:22
Da_SWATompaul, I'm playing safe. I've been waiting for months (since the last release) so I can wait a few days more. Do you know the exact ETA?06:22
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apsyncah ok06:22
Butcherbird-Jrapokryphos, now it is going06:23
apokryphoswoo06:23
ompaulDa_SWAT, well the rumour mill says the 13th of October06:23
apokryphosButcherbird-Jr: yeah, it may take time to get going. Excellent, it's working. :)06:23
ThePyromaniacso any of you know where i can get new sun j2re for 64-bit?06:23
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Da_SWATompaul, I hope so. Then I can show breezy off at my LAN :D06:23
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ThePyromaniacguys? How can i get new Java Runtime Envireoment?06:25
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fallenonefinaly06:25
ThePyromaniaci have looked on symantec06:25
fallenonelol06:25
fallenoneit worked06:25
fallenoneim alive!106:25
Jowiwb fallenone06:25
Da_SWATThePyromaniac, download it?06:25
ThePyromaniacDa_SWAT : Now why did I think of that :p06:25
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darren_Yesterday I installed about 200MB of updates. Today I can't seem to play music. I think that an update has affected the sound card. What can I do to rectify this?06:26
sktrdiejeez06:26
ThePyromaniacDa_SWAT: sun-j2re1.5 does not exist06:26
sktrdieI cannot find a guide on how to build a kernel from source06:26
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fallenonecan anyone help me :P06:26
ORiON2012ThePyromaniac: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaAMD6406:26
fallenonei cant see my other drives like C:/ D:/ and E:/ only file system 0.o06:26
ThePyromaniacnice, thanks dude06:26
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imnesIs there a package I can reinstall that will wipe out and recreate the default menu structure?  After a run with the latest smeg, I can't get my menu back.06:26
ompaul!tell fallenone about ntfs06:27
[LethAL] fallenone, That's a feature, not a bug06:27
imnesEven after deleting my local .config/menu files06:27
ThePyromaniacimnes: yes, tell me if anyone answers. mine is messed06:27
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fallenoneah06:27
ORiON2012ThePyromaniac: and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions06:27
fallenonelinux cant see ntfs file systems?06:27
apokryphosfallenone: it sure cna06:27
apokryphoss/cna/can/06:27
ORiON2012fallenone: yes it can06:27
apokryphosubotu: tell fallenone abotu ntfs06:27
KuolioThePyromaniac: go to ubuntuforums, hoary support, amd64 forum and look for tamirs thread of amd64 packages, he has a repo with newes java and such, wich you can apt-get after adding hes repo to your sources.list06:28
bob2fallenone: there's a difference between "the partition is available and could be mounted" and "the partition is mounted in /mnt somewhere"06:28
fallenonethank u :D06:28
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ThePyromaniacThanks guys, I have had many responces to that one about amd64 stuff :D06:29
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fallenoneok ...06:29
fallenoneanyway06:29
fallenoneanyone know a linux msn messenger06:29
fallenonebehalf amsn06:29
ThePyromaniacGAIM06:29
[LethAL] Gaim06:29
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fallenonebecause it sais this06:29
fallenoneDetails: Failed to execute child process "amsn" (No such file or directory)06:29
bob2fallenone: ignore it, use gaim06:29
bob2ignore amsn06:29
[LethAL] Mercury is good as well, if you can bear the UI06:29
ompaulfallenone, there are 426 people in the channel - please keep the oh and ah on the same line as the other comment - and if you do what I told you it will see that neanderthal technology file system06:29
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gn0meHey there, I upgraded to breezy and there's one little thing different that I am having trouble getting over.  Right-clicking the desktop, the first item used to be "New Terminal".. now it isn't.. anyone know how I could re-add that entry?06:30
fallenoneok...06:30
fallenonehow the f*ck can i save the large mount file 0.006:31
[LethAL] large mount file?06:31
bob2gn0me: apt-cache search nautilus terminal06:31
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bob2gn0me: there's some other package you have to install to get it06:31
odatubuntustill having networking problems06:31
odatubuntuand that page you sent me too is frustrating06:31
sertmann!sound06:32
uboturumour has it, sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/06:32
odatubuntuit says (((Q: I don't have a 'Windows Networking' section, only Hostname and Domain-name. What do I do now?)))   and then no answer to it06:32
[LethAL] Does anybody know why when I do something remotely resource-intensive, rhythmnbox stutters? Any way round it?06:32
sambagirlwhich gaim should i download?06:32
sambagirlis there a icq for linux?06:32
bob2sambagirl: you already have it installed, use it06:32
bob2sambagirl: gaim also does icq06:32
[LethAL] s/rhythmnbox/rhythmbox06:32
bob2[LethAL] : use something other than rhythmbox06:32
sambagirlwow bob2 your awesome06:33
ORiON2012[LethAL] : what engine are you using?06:33
[LethAL] No idea which engine I'm using06:33
ORiON2012[LethAL] : sorry, RB, not amarok...06:33
[LethAL] lol06:33
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odatubuntubob2: sup man06:33
scorpio2002hi there!06:33
[LethAL] bob2, And you would recommend (For gnome)06:33
scorpio2002I've got a problem06:33
sambagirli hate to ask this but where is it bob2?06:33
scorpio2002basically, whenever I try to use a command with su, I get "id program:name unknown"06:34
sambagirlbob2 they take your ops away?06:34
ORiON2012[LethAL] : muine is nice and minimal06:34
ompaulsambagirl, try applications - internet - some program06:34
bob2sambagirl: applications -> internet06:34
bob2sambagirl: no06:34
bob2[LethAL] : I use cplay, but it's not a gnome app. perhaps xmm.06:34
scorpio2002can you help me?06:34
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sambagirli found it gracias06:34
ORiON2012[LethAL] : personally, I love amaroK....   but no, I don't know why it would skip06:34
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sambagirlubuntu is awesome06:34
fallenoneerm lol :P06:34
fallenonehow can i save the mount thingie?06:35
bob2scorpio2002: so, don't use su, problems solved06:35
apokryphosORiON2012: skip?06:35
ORiON2012[LethAL] : have you tried other players?  xmms or beep?06:35
odatubuntusambagirl: heya does that mean you know a lot about samba?06:35
[LethAL] No, will do though06:35
bob2odatubuntu: hi06:35
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ORiON2012apokryphos: ^^06:35
[LethAL] Do any have a Gnome-applet (plugin)06:35
apokryphosORiON2012: what's the problem? amaroK skips?06:35
ompaul!tell scorpio2002 about root06:35
scorpio2002bob2, you must be joking... how can I now use su?06:35
ORiON2012apokryphos: no, RB skips for [LethAL] 06:35
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ORiON2012apokryphos: stutters, whatever06:36
bob2scorpio2002: why would you bother? just use sudo06:36
apokryphos[LethAL] :  probably down to not having mp3 codecs; install akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad06:36
imnesThey might need to consider removing smeg from ubuntu for final release, I've eventually lost my menu every time I've used it. Not a good experience especially for any new users trying things out.06:36
scorpio2002ok guys, it's always worked since yesterday....06:36
apokryphos[LethAL] : good idea to also install amarok-engines06:36
sambagirlsure i love samba i was born in bahia06:36
sambagirlhome of samba06:36
ORiON2012apokryphos:  not using amarok06:36
ORiON2012apokryphos: no KDE involved06:36
bob2imnes: have you filed a bug?06:36
apokryphosORiON2012: you're not, or they're not?06:36
scorpio2002bob2, you know? I'm stupid :| :D06:37
sambagirlohh you mean computer samba?06:37
sambagirlno06:37
ORiON2012apokryphos: [LethAL] isn't06:37
[LethAL] I allready had gstreamer0.8-mad but I'll get akode-mpeg too06:37
ORiON2012[LethAL] : no you don't need it06:37
gwenksguys, just a simple question but i hope u'll help a newbie... how do i get to adjust the resolution of my monitor? pls...06:37
fallenonehow do i save this : http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab06:37
apokryphosORiON2012: so what's all this about amarok then, with them?06:37
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apokryphosubotu: tell gwenks about resolution06:37
bob2fallenone: hwo do you normally save files with firefox?06:37
apokryphosgwenks: the link ubotu just gave you hsa the solution =)06:37
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pvhThe KDE applications I have installed are no longer appearing in my Applications menu. Why?06:38
fallenoneerm i dont know 0.o06:38
gwenksi'm listening.. i mean reading... :)06:38
odatubuntusambagirl, i am having some problems setting it up so i was hoping you could help06:38
fallenoneoops srry bob :P06:38
ORiON2012apokryphos: confused amarok with RB at first, then I just said I like amarok out of all other music players06:38
fallenonei know it06:38
Gnonthgo1how to install (any) linux on my Comandore 386 Laptop?06:38
bob2pvh: if you're using ubuntu, that's to be expected06:38
apokryphosgwenks: follow that and you should be ok; if you have problems, come back here and let us know :)06:38
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bob2Gnonthgo1: www.debian.org, assuming it has a floppy or cd driver, or can pxeboot06:39
darren_Something seems to be blocking my soundcard. Any help on finding out what it is?06:39
pvhbob2: I am using Ubuntu, but they were there before.06:39
bob2darren_: fuser -v /dev/dsp /dev/snd/*06:39
apokryphosdarren_: lsof /dev/dsp ?06:39
darren_They both return nothing06:41
fallenoneerm looky bob06:41
fallenonefallenone@j35089:~$ sudo bash winmac_fstab06:41
fallenonePassword:06:41
fallenonebash: winmac_fstab: No such file or directory06:41
darren_darren@Nexus:~$ fuser -v /dev/dsp /dev/snd/*06:41
darren_darren@Nexus:~$ lsof /dev/dsp06:41
darren_darren@Nexus:~$06:41
apokryphosdarren_: do not paste in here06:42
apokryphosfallenone: same for you06:42
bob2fallenone: is that really surprising? you're not in the dir that the file is.06:42
fallenoneok06:42
fallenoneerm its on desktop06:42
bob2yes06:42
bob2so cd Desktop06:42
apokryphosfallenone: and you're not there06:42
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elad_How do I quit X?06:43
fallenonesorry :( im just new to linux06:43
bob2elad_: are you compiling nvidia junk?06:43
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elad_No.06:43
elad_I just want to find out how to quit X. Nothing behind this.06:43
bob2elad_: then ctrl-alt-f106:43
bob2or sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop06:43
bob2depending on what your aim is06:43
Config Hi... I could use some help - I have updated to hoary and suddenly, hd performance goes down like hell (4mb/sec) - however, dma is turned on. Any idea?06:44
bob2Config: nforce?06:44
fallenoneanyone know a good music program like winmx to download music on linux?06:45
darren_I can't hear any sounds and I need to listen to something. Any way to fix this?06:45
apokryphosfallenone: gtk-gnutella and limewire are the popular ones06:45
elad_bob2, it doesn't work.06:45
gn0mefallenone: Nicotine?06:45
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gn0meSoulseek linux client06:45
chicken-manHi every one ?06:45
pvhNicotine doesn't connect to the bulk of Soulseek users anymore.06:45
chicken-manooops06:45
Configbob2, no, a pretty old via06:45
bob2elad_: "doesn't work"?06:45
pvhI have switched to running the newest Soulseek under Wine, but it's a bit of a pain to get set up.06:45
apokryphoshi chicken-man :)06:45
Configbob2, VT8363/836506:45
bur[n] erelad_: ctrl+alt+bksp06:46
apokryphosbur[n] er: that generally only restarts X06:46
bob2Config: file a bug I guess, then06:46
fallenonehmm i get a error when i start a music file :/06:46
chicken-mancan i network a computer running ubuntu to a computer running winblows XP ?06:46
bob2chicken-man: sure06:46
chicken-mangood :-P06:46
apokryphosubotu: tell chicken-man about samba06:47
gn0meI like how you called it winblows to get accepted. :)06:47
sertmanncould someone take a look at this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6715106:47
chicken-man:-D06:47
[LethAL] Speaking of Samba, anyone know why shares 'require' a login and don't accept it?06:47
apokryphosfallenone: you will of course have to produce more info than that06:47
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bob2[LethAL] : because yo uconfigured them to require authentication06:47
fallenonei cannot paste so i cannot say it06:47
bob2which is kinda pointless, since SMB is insecure anyway06:47
fallenonehere were no decoders found to handle the stream in file :D06:47
chicken-mani am writeing a guide for ubuntu :-)06:48
apokryphosubotu: paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:48
ubotuWish i knew, apokryphos06:48
bur[n] ersmb is insecure?06:48
apokryphoserm06:48
bur[n] erhow so bob2 ?06:48
apokryphosfallenone: paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:48
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bur[n] erthat sounds like FUD ;)06:48
bob2chicken-man: pleae do license it under the GPL or MIT/X11 license06:48
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chicken-manbob2, i will :-P06:48
bob2yay06:48
apokryphoschicken-man: let us know in here when it's done =)06:48
fallenoneApo why that? do i need to post it there?06:48
chicken-man:-D06:48
[LethAL] bob2, The point is they don't accept my user password06:49
apokryphosfallenone: that's a pastebin. If you want, paste there, and then produce the url here06:49
chicken-man[LethAL] , try your root password ?06:49
bob2[LethAL] : great06:49
bob2chicken-man: no06:49
ribboHi, what happpens to home/<username> when upgrading and the main user you are creating in the upgrade is the same username? /home is mounted on a different partition than /06:49
chicken-manbob2, ?06:49
bob2bur[n] er: hm, I can't find any linke aside from those for lanman 106:49
[LethAL] Something's broke...06:50
fallenonehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/235106:50
pvhbob2: The KDE applications not appearing in the menu do appear (and are set to display) in the Menu Editor.06:50
bob2pvh: ok06:50
chicken-manpvh, go in kubuntu06:50
bob2ribbo: what does "ain user you are creating in the upgrade is the same username" mean?06:50
pvhchicken-man: ?06:51
ORiON2012fallenone: you need gstreamer0.8-mad06:51
pvhbob2: Are they deliberately suppressed? Sorry, I guess I didn't understand your point earlier.06:51
chicken-manpvh, if you need help with KDE go in kubuntu06:51
bob2pvh: I don't know06:51
pvhchicken-man: It's not a KDE bug, it's a Gnome bug. (Bug? Feature?)06:51
bob2pvh: my point before is that they will not appear without manual intervention06:51
ribbobob2: I am upgrading from Warty to Breezy, the only user on my system will be the same in theupgrade. What I am asking is whether or not my /home/ribbo directory would be overwritten06:52
apokryphospvh: that's not to do with KDE06:52
bob2ribbo: that's going to screw up06:52
chicken-manpvh, oh06:52
bob2ribbo: please stop before you break things terribly06:52
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fallenonehow can i get this gstreamer0.8-mad06:52
ribbobob2: thought so, that is why I am asking06:52
bob2ribbo: no, because you're going warty to breezy, which is explicitly not supported06:52
bob2ribbo: upgrade to hoary, then, if you insist, breezy06:52
apokryphosfallenone: make sure you have the repos, and install from synaptic06:52
bob2ribbo: no upgrade is ever going to touch /home. tho06:53
ORiON2012fallenone: the same way you get the rest of your software in Ubuntu, apt-get or synaptic06:53
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ORiON2012or aptitude....06:53
ribbobob2: sorry will be going to Hpary not Breezy .. typo06:53
ribbobob2: thanks06:54
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fallenonewtf is repos and synapatic? i just installed linux and i got the live cd and the install cd06:54
fallenone!theme06:54
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, fallenone06:54
fallenone!themes06:54
ubotuthemes is, like, at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com06:54
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ORiON2012fallenone: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewToUbuntu read it, then ask questions06:55
=== bur[n] er wishes the human theme didn't have a firefox icon
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bob2if you want ubuntu to have the proper firefox logo, bitch at mozilla.org06:55
bob2it's their decision06:55
bur[n] ernot that... I use my own06:56
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bur[n] erbut the human theme shouldn't include anything ;)06:56
bur[n] eror at least switch both firefox and thunderbird ;)  looks funny to have a globe next to my thunderbird icon06:56
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bloodnik!repos06:57
uboturepos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96906:57
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darren_My sound isn't working anymore. I installed a few updates yesterday and the system was fine. When I booted up today the only sound I got was the login screen loading up. Can anyone help?06:58
adamhI've set up a hostap-based access point. Clients receive an address via DHCP, but they can't ping the access point (or the rest of the Internet). Any ideas?06:58
adamhtcpdump on the ap shows an "arp who-has" without a reply06:58
odatubuntuanyone able to help with samba networking?06:58
chicken-mancan any one give me some advice on a good engine to use to make 3D games in Linux ?07:00
ORiON2012darren_: GNOME has no sound events... ?  Or within specific applications?07:00
chicken-manfor C++07:00
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adamhchicken-man: Well, the Quake 3 engine is pretty cool... it's only in C07:00
darren_ORiON2012, GNOME has no sound events07:00
darren_I think that the soundcard is blocked07:00
chicken-manadamh, i don't do C :-)07:00
darren_How do I check what's using it and terminate the process?07:01
adamhchicken-man: I was reading about "sylphis3d" yesterday... it looks totally awesome, I dunno what languages it supports though07:01
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ORiON2012darren_: is ESD enabled?07:01
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chicken-manadamh, i'll take a look07:01
ORiON2012darren_: System->Prefs->Sound->Enable sound server07:01
bob2I'm not sure 3d game engines would fit a in an ubuntu newbie guide...07:01
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Soldier_laptophola07:01
Soldier_laptopalguien me puede decir como escuchar la radio por internet'07:02
Soldier_laptop?07:02
deFrysk!es07:02
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:02
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bob2Soldier_laptop: pretty clearly not a spanish-speaking channel07:02
darren_ORiON2012, that's already enabled07:02
ORiON2012darren_: is your card unmuted?07:02
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darren_How do I check that?07:03
ORiON2012darren_: should be a little volume icon in the panel07:03
mititeluhow can i make an old printer work, it's connectet via old way printer port07:03
ORiON2012darren_: or use alsamixer on CLI07:03
sertmannhmmm still playing around with my non-working sound, why does everyone seem to be using 2.6.12x kernel when the highest kernel-image i can find is 2.6.8-1?07:04
bob2mititelu: use the printer dialog to add it...07:04
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bur[n] ersertmann: 2.6.12 is on breezy07:05
bob2sertmann: because you're using warty from mid 200407:05
bur[n] eraww. warty even07:05
sertmannhmmm07:05
sertmannbut07:05
sertmannim on breezy07:05
mititelubob2 where is that, i have a hp deskjet 840C07:05
fallenoneok lol07:05
bob2sertmann: then you removed ubuntu-desktop07:05
bur[n] ermititelu: system -> administration -> printing07:05
bob2which was silly07:05
fallenonehow the damnit can i find multiverse universe to download getstreamer mad07:05
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mititeluk, thanks07:06
Soldier_laptopim sorry07:06
bob2fallenone: /msg ubotu repositories07:06
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ORiON2012fallenone: you obviously didn't read, that's all covered in the wiki page I sent you too07:06
Proofwhat program supports exe for ubuntu?07:06
ORiON2012fallenone: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers under MP3, Flash, Java, and other Proprietary Formats07:06
bob2Proof: none, in general07:07
bob2Proof: wine can run some programs, appcd.codeweavers.com07:07
redon2what's the correct way of installing a .deb I downloaded? (the Opera browser, to be more specific)07:07
ORiON2012redon2: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb07:08
redon2thanks man07:08
ORiON2012redon2: it will complain if they're are unmet dependencies07:08
ORiON2012cool spelling07:08
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HiddenFlywhen i try to install cvs cedega, it tells me during installation to delete /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a. would that be a stupid move or is it ok to do it without breaking something?07:11
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redon2why wouldn't the system be able to find 'make' in $PATH?07:11
bob2that's a very bad idea07:11
ORiON2012redon2: if it's not installed07:11
bob2redon2: because you didn't install build-essential07:11
redon2it's essential, shouldn't the base installer take care of essential packages?07:12
redon2anyway, `apt-get install build-essential'?07:12
HiddenFlybob2: yea thats what i thought, anyways i could still install cedega? it doesnt let me continue after that message07:12
ORiON2012redon2: essential to building, not to the base system07:12
redon2ah07:12
redon2all right, thanks again.07:12
HiddenFlyi mean, is there any way to install it without deleting the file07:12
Proofi need to run a cd, but it's exe I've also tried installing wine but no success07:13
pvhHiddenFly: Actually, I believe it's alright.07:13
pvhHiddenFly: My advice is to rename rather than to delete the file.07:13
fallenonewhen i brouwse to my hard disc everytime i click on a folder it opens a new widow , how can i solve this?07:13
ORiON2012redon2: I'll bet there are people on Ubuntu that have never compiled a piece of software07:13
bob2HiddenFly: that's ridiculous07:13
HiddenFlyyea i was just thinking about renaming07:13
matitacciaHello! I have got a very old notebook. It's still a 486 it works perhaps at 66mhz (don't remember) and has something like 36 mb Ram. I would like to use it with a very small linux installation. Note: I don't have any cdrom drive.07:13
ORiON2012redon2: not that that's a bad thing07:13
pvhHiddenFly: If all hell breaks loose, move it back. I believe it conflicts with something.07:13
HiddenFlyok07:13
bob2wtf does it care about the static GL lib?07:13
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HiddenFlyso im gonna rename it and put a text file to my dekstop telling me the names so i dont forget them07:13
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HiddenFlydunno07:13
ProofI cannot even install limewire or any audio codecs.07:14
pvhHiddenFly: Do some googling if you are (rightly) skeptical.07:14
HiddenFlyit says that that file prevents linking to opengl07:14
HiddenFlyk07:14
pvhHiddenFly: But I can tell you that it WFM.07:14
redon2ORiON2012, really? Conformists :)07:14
HiddenFlyWFM?07:14
pvhworked for me07:14
HiddenFlyk07:14
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matitacciaShould I better go to some linux channel, instead of the ubuntu one?07:14
bob2matitaccia: yes07:15
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[LethAL] matitaccia, apparently Damn SMall Linux would be good07:15
matitacciabob2, thanks, was already going.07:15
matitaccia[LethAL] , thanks.07:15
apsynchow can I find out the kernel version?07:15
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Configapsync, uname -a07:16
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apsyncthank you07:16
ProofHm, I click tools/wineinstall but nothing happens after i choose '' run ''. What should I do?07:16
bur[n] ercan anyone recommend a gtk-based scanning program?07:16
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HiddenFlyerm, what is the terminal command for renaming? im a bit noob on these things :P07:17
ORiON2012bur[n] er: scanning like network or image?07:17
apokryphosHiddenFly: rename or mv07:17
filleokuscan some help me to identify wich desklets that they us as a menu on this screen http://vidalinux.com/gallery/albums/album01/screen_vlos_02.sized.png ?07:17
bob2HiddenFly: mv07:17
filleokusplease!07:17
HiddenFlythx07:17
bur[n] erORiON2012: image... like on my HP PSC 1209 :)07:17
bob2does "rename" DTRT if you only give it two arguments?07:17
bob2filleokus: please try to not be annoying07:17
filleokuswhat?07:17
ORiON2012bur[n] er: xsane has a nice plugin for gimp, or just use xsane by itself07:17
filleokussorry but i want to know wich one07:17
HiddenFlymv is move07:18
bur[n] eri like the gimp plugin idea... i have never attempted linux scanning before :)07:18
HiddenFlynot rename07:18
bur[n] erthanks ORiON201207:18
bob2filleokus: then ask, once, and wait07:18
bob2HiddenFly: how are they different things?07:18
HiddenFlydunno :P07:18
filleokusoh, u mean a "please" is not so good?07:18
apokryphosHiddenFly: mv <oldname> <newname>07:18
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HiddenFlyok lol07:19
apokryphosbob2: apparently not07:19
HiddenFlysry for my noobiness07:19
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filleokusdoes gdesklets have an irc channel?07:19
apsyncuname -m returns i686, this means I have a i686 machine? or i686 version?07:19
bur[n] erfilleokus: just open gdesklets and look for that widget, you'll find it07:20
fallenoneanyone know some cool theme for ubuntu??07:20
ORiON2012filleokus: #gdesklets on GIMPnet (irc.gnome.org)07:20
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darren_What is "gam_serve" ?07:20
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ngmlinux_FINALLY07:20
bur[n] erfallenone: gperfection!  www.gnome-look.org07:21
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filleokuswidget?07:21
filleokusxplain a bit more07:21
jontiz?07:21
bur[n] erfilleokus: you don't know what I mean when I say widget?  go read :P07:21
ngmlinux_please do not post links to websites, bur[n] er, read irc-doc07:22
bur[n] erngmlinux_: you kidding?07:22
bur[n] erngmlinux_: ubotu is full of links07:22
filleokusbur[n] er: What? Cant u xplain, it's easyer for me07:22
sertmannjust tried to apt-get ubuntu-desktop, which did indeed install upgrade 20 or so packages, but i still only get the option to install 2.6.8-1 kernel, which repo is it supposed to be in?07:23
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bob2ngmlinux_: what are you talking about?07:23
bob2sertmann: past your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood07:23
jontizhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widget07:23
sertmannbob2, ok, hold on...07:24
pussfelleris there native drivers now for linksys wmp54g based on broadcoms?07:24
pussfelleror just the newer broadcoms chipsets07:24
odatubuntuanyone able to help me work out a samba problem?07:25
filleokusbur[n] er: I cant find anything that look like the picture, but on the websiter for vidia ( the distro the screen was shot on) they say that they use gdesklets07:25
[LethAL] odatubuntu, What is it?07:25
ProofWhat mp3 encoder should i download?07:26
=== bur[n] er has seen it and used it... look under application launchers in gdesklets
odatubuntuLethAl, i am able to access my xp machine but not visa versa07:27
sertmannbob2, there07:27
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bob2sertmann: well, you have other kernels available07:27
[LethAL] odatubuntu, DO you have samba installed? You might just have samaba-client07:28
odatubuntu[LethAL] , samba is installed i can see my machine on the ubuntu network but i can't access it because i don't know the password07:28
filleokusbur[n] er: There aint no "application lanuchers" in gdesklets07:28
[LethAL] odatubuntu, I'm having the same problem07:29
bob2sertmann: er, they're not called kernel-image07:29
bob2sertmann: and never have been in ubuntu07:29
sertmannah...07:29
bob2sertmann: sudo aptitude install linux-68607:29
[LethAL] odatubuntu, I can't even access my shares locally07:29
Hoxzercan somebody help me to use direct connect?07:29
darren_Is the person with the sound problem still here?07:29
[LethAL] darren_, Which one?07:30
odatubuntu[LethAL] ,  can you access your stuff from an xp machine?07:30
sertmannah, that might be the reason then :)07:30
[LethAL] I don't have one, but apparently not07:30
Jowiodatubuntu: back from shopping. can you put your /etc/samba/smb.conf in the pastebin please07:30
Jowi!pastebin07:30
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl07:30
filleokusbur[n] er: Please cant u tell me what the name is07:31
filleokusi most now07:32
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filleokusknow now i mean07:32
ngmlinux_figured out my own error in the time it took to register on IRC :-)07:32
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sertmannlinux686 doesn't seem to exist07:32
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darren_[LethAL] , the person that updated to breezy07:34
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scenestarhey07:34
[LethAL] Unlikely to be me then07:34
scenestarquick question07:34
bur[n] erfilleokus: look under "toolbar/launchers" and it's called "StarterBar" :P07:34
filleokusis it that one?07:35
scenestarfor ubuntu, is there a gnome-core package07:35
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scenestarwithout the entire open office suite etc?07:35
filleokusfuck, i need to use it in xfce and it just work under gnome07:35
odatubuntujowi, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/235207:35
mumbleswah who hilighed me ?07:35
apokryphosscenestar: there is07:35
Jowiodatubuntu: ok, brb07:35
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apokryphosscenestar: search for packages using apt-cache search <package>07:35
scenestarallready did07:36
mumblesbur[n] er mumbles about people being lazy --- oh no one wanted me07:36
bur[n] erlol07:36
apokryphosscenestar: or, on here, /msg ubotu find <package>07:36
mumblesgoes back to working on website07:36
apokryphosscenestar: it's in Universe; enable that repository, then you can get it.07:36
bur[n] erfilleokus: that's not true either07:36
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Marconianhi07:36
apokryphosscenestar: of course, it's just a metapackage07:36
Marconiani have a problem07:36
scenestarah ok, i suspected that07:36
Marconianmy optical mouse doesnt work07:36
Marconian:(07:37
scenestari hate that sources list07:37
scenestarits so nub friendly :P07:37
Marconiancan anybody help me?07:37
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filleokusbur[n] er: Huh? If u open the source of that one it says on the top: !-- The GNOME Starter Bar - you need GNOME to use it -->07:37
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bur[n] erfilleokus: worked for me under xfce07:38
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Marconianplease?07:38
filleokusNice: Ok one last question: Where do i find icons, or "widgets" :D ?07:38
AbsenthI don't suppose anyone here has connected Evolution to an exchange 5.5 server?07:38
Absenthfilleokus, art.gnome.org ?07:39
redon2where are the kernel sources if not in /usr/src?07:39
xareumhello, I have downloaded ubuntusetup.sh from ubuntu forums and I have the next error when apt-get update runs:07:39
xareumW: GPG error: ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov hoary Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B507:39
xareumW: GPG error: ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov hoary-updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B507:39
xareumW: GPG error: ftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov hoary-security Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B507:39
xareumW: Tal vez quiera ejecutar 'apt-get update' para corregir estos problemas07:39
filleokusmaybee, but i want a bit more cool icons07:39
bur[n] erfilleokus: gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org07:39
filleokusoh bur[n] er u is a god!07:39
redon2xareum, no pegues tantas lineas seguidas!07:39
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nomikehi07:39
bur[n] eroh oh oh, icons... nevermind that site... art.gnome.org or gnomelook.orgf07:39
odatubuntujowi, any hints??07:39
ompaulxareum, 1) no pasting 2) use pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl07:40
Hoxzercan somebody help me to use dcgui?07:40
redon2this channel is chaotic. where are the kernel sources? (tried /usr/src)07:40
xareumok, sorry07:40
butcherbirdSlightly offtopic: Anyone here speak mandarin or recommend any software in repos that might help a student? Thinking I might have to resort to wine for some windows softare07:40
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filleokusok thanx anyway07:40
nomikeI have a HP LaserJet 4Plus attached to LPT1 and the printer is working fine. But now I want to print to it from a windows client....Samba file sharing is working. Any suggestions on how to get this running?07:40
scxhello all07:40
Jowiodatubuntu: might be that your share name is a bit off since it contain a space. try to put quotes around it and try to add this to the bottom of the smb.conf: force group = sambauser. Also, make sure that your workgroup "MSHOME" is set to the same in Windows. When you try to connect to Ubuntu from Windows it should pop up a dialog box asking for a user and a password. does it?07:41
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scenestarbutcherbird: google it07:41
xareumredon2, sabes qeu me puede estar pasando?07:41
ompaulredon2, cd /usr/src/ and have a look if they are not there then you need to download them07:41
butcherbirdscenestar, no you are my slave find and bring it back to me07:41
Butcherbird-Jrbutcherbird, stop causing trouble07:41
redon2ompaul, they're not there. how can I get apt-get to fetch them?07:41
filleokusi need "cool" icons for webbrowser, mai, on and off, etcetcetc07:41
filleokusnot gnome icons07:42
Prooflol.07:42
odatubuntujowi, no it doesn't even show the icon for this computer yet besides i don;t know the password07:42
redon2xareum, no lo se. this is an English channel anyway.07:42
Jowiodatubuntu: then disable the firewall07:42
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ompaulredon2, which kernel version are you running?07:42
Jowiodatubuntu: in winxp; disable firewall.07:42
redon2 2.6.12-8-amd64-generic07:42
odatubuntujowi, i use zonealarm in windows and i have it setup to allow connection from this machine via ip addy07:43
ompaulbutcherbird, have a look at redflag linux ... if you can't find what you want in ubuntu07:43
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Marconianmy ps2 optical mouse doesnt work07:43
bur[n] erodatubuntu: u run smbpasswd -a on the linux box?07:43
Marconianthe laser is tuned off during the boot07:43
Marconian:(07:43
filleokusi need "cool" icons for webbrowser, mai, on and off, etcetcetc, somebody that gots an idea?07:43
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Marconiancan anyone help me on this?07:43
filleokusyes i can07:43
Jowiodatubuntu: when it ask you for a username and password you just have to use your own ubuntu username and password. Yeah i use zonealarm on my Win2k machine and it DOES block traffic anyway. you should minimum see the ubuntu share. if you don't its probably zonealarm blocking it.07:43
Marconianplease07:43
butcherbirdompaul, redflag,, good idea ty07:43
Marconianfilleokus :)07:44
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ompaulredon2, go to system administration synaptic and then click on repositories07:44
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filleokusrun "sudo dpkg-rconfgiure xserver-xorg07:44
ompaulbutcherbird, never ever say w*s to me  :-) it just makes me mad, as the hulk said :)07:44
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redon2ompaul, what next?07:44
mititelui have a problem with my printer, hp 840C, i installed it (selected hpijs as driver) and when i try to print instead of printing text it makes some black lines07:45
ompaulMarconian, there are a lot of things going on - please wait a few minutes like 10 / 15 and if no body has said anything to you then ask again07:45
mititeluwon't work with any other driver07:45
Jowiodatubuntu: as soon as i disable zonealarm i am able to see my ubuntu share :)07:45
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ompaulredon2, there is a repositories button07:45
redon2Yes, I'm looking at the repository list.07:46
ompaulredon2, you need to add source07:46
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ompaulredon2, click on settings and show hidden repos07:47
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redon2oh ok... should I switch back to the other repository after I finish this?07:47
IceShamanhow do I play minesweeper on ubuntu?07:47
ompaulno you never turn them off just on :)07:47
JowiIceShaman: the same way as in windows?07:47
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svuis there a way to setup normal rsync server (without ssh) on ubuntu?07:47
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redon2ok cool07:47
mititelui have a problem with my printer, hp 840C, i installed it (selected hpijs as driver) and when i try to print instead of printing text it makes some black lines, with other drivers it won't even do that07:47
mititeluwhat can i do...07:48
ompaulredon2, may be the source be with you07:48
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IceShamanI typed 'LOAD minesweeper' in /etc/fstab but it isn't working07:48
scenestarIceShaman: have you trried browsing the repository yet07:48
crearthi all, a question; how do i set my removeable Harddisc to "write mode" ??07:48
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redon2what category should it be into, ompaul?07:49
ompaulMarconian, so do tell us more about this mouse, is it usb? and which version of ubuntu are you running07:49
HiddenFlyi got cvs cedega installed now, but when i write cvscedega as told in the instructions, nothing happens, whats wrong?07:49
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JowiIceShaman: nice try. try gnomine instead07:50
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creartanyone, a07:50
IceShamanwho?07:50
creartlittle help with a harddisc?07:50
scenestarcreart: wait your turn07:50
Jowicreart: be specific07:50
creartfair enough07:51
ompaulredon2, click all and then on the right hand side click and start to type kernel you will find the info you need07:51
odatubuntuthis is ridicolous07:51
Sarr-chanPlease, help me. I need to install a i386 version of ubuntu instead of my amd64 one. Yesterday I both tried 1 Hoary and 1 Breezy .iso. When I get to insert Full Name, username and password 2 times it just makes me do it again, and again and so on. When I choose Go Back and selects the next point in the install (w/o inserting a pass) it installs everything, and asks me to remove the cd and...07:51
Sarr-chan...reboot. I do so. When Im on the next stage of the install, it tells me that I inserted a blank password. And makes me enter a new password. And the same bug occurs. I need to do it again and again. And when I just ignore that stage of installing, it countinues. But when I boot ubuntu i cant login with any password, or even a blank password field. Please help me.07:51
Jowiodatubuntu: so it worked fine by shutting down zonealarm?07:52
redon2I just can't find it. I can't find my exact kernel version there.07:52
redon2Are you sure its there?07:52
scenestarredon uname -a07:52
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ompaulredon2 sorry it is, I forgot a step :-/07:52
Sarr-chanhey hey, help me guys..07:52
ompaulredon2 tell it to reload07:53
ompaulor apply07:53
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creartI got a external harddrive, which worked fine with Win-XP, but when connected to Ubuntu it says its write protected?! how do i change this?07:53
odatubuntujowi, nope07:53
Sarr-chan<.< after writing all that, i want some help..07:53
scenestarSarr-chan: and i want a pony07:53
ompaulSarr-chan, I am reading it07:53
redon2Also, I couldn't find that "Show hidden repositories" option you were telling me about.07:53
Sarr-chan=P07:53
Sarr-chanompaul: thanks =D07:54
odatubuntujowi, i still don't know how to set the password07:54
ompaulredon2, several steps back - settings repositories settings07:54
odatubuntujowi, i have swat installed but i can't access it07:54
ompaulredon2, thats hidden07:54
ompaulredon2, thats where hidden is07:54
scenestarwouldnt it just ve easier to uncomment in the sources.list file?07:55
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redon2"Show disabled software sources" is the closest match I can see.07:55
kahuna_Hi07:55
Jowiodatubuntu: exactly what are you doing and what happens. Swat the game?07:55
ompaulredon2, if you can't do this then I do not think that you should be playing with the kernel you could break the machine in new and interesting ways07:55
redon2Oh, I am new to Ubuntu, that's all.07:55
scenestarompaul: isnt that the way we learn?07:55
odatubuntujowi, swat the webadmin for samba07:55
unpersonAnyone here had luck installing Mathematica on their Ubuntu system?07:55
wezzernope...07:56
Jowiodatubuntu: yeah, i know thanks :-)07:56
Jowiodatubuntu: but i don't use it myself.07:56
redon2I just want my damn kernel sources so I can compile ndiswrapper and a few other apps.07:56
ompaulscenestar, there are some breaks I would not wish on anyone07:56
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scenestarredon2: slocate sources.list07:56
scenestarthere should be a feww lines in there that are commented07:56
scenestaruncomment those and you will have acces to "the universe"07:57
redon2ahh07:57
redon2I see, well, thanks.07:57
scenestardont forget to back it up first07:57
scenestarand IIRC you have to be root to change it07:57
Sarr-chanompaul: any ideas?07:57
Jowiodatubuntu: in the link https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SettingUpSamba you will see there how to add a samba user.07:57
markab3how about installing the nForce3 drivers? i'm having kernal-source-tree problems07:58
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Jowiodatubuntu: it's about on the middle of the page. read it and follow the guide. you can not fail.07:58
unpersonI'd like to move our research group's main computer from Red Hat to Ubuntu, but we absolutely have to be able to run Mathematica on it.07:58
odatubuntujowi, been there and i love this comment on it (((Q: I don't have a 'Windows Networking' section, only Hostname and Domain-name. What do I do now?)))   but there is not answer well guess what i need an answer07:58
ompaulSarr-chan, no, md5sum both CDs07:59
Sarr-chanompaul: done that.07:59
sertmannok now on a 2.6.12 kernel, sounds still not working though, exact same errors07:59
scenestarac97 codec?08:00
sertmannnah SBLive08:00
Jowiodatubuntu: i followed the guide and had no probs setting it up. works flawless here. you probably missed a step somewhere.08:00
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ompaulSarr-chan, I find it strange it will not just go for it08:00
redon2scenestar, ok, I uncommented the apropriate line, then did `apt-get update' but I still can't find sources for 2.6.12-8-amd64-generic. Where should I look? Synaptic isn't listing them.08:00
sertmannit's detected allright, in gnome device manager and all, and my user is in audio grups, but alsa claims it can't find it during boot08:01
scenestarredon2: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6.12-808:01
odatubuntujowi, thanx for your help but i am not an idiot i have followed that thing a thousand time and i don't have that one section that they don't answer08:01
AbsenthIs anyone here fairly familiar with Evolution?08:02
Kernel-Krisi am08:02
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redon2no results :|08:02
odatubuntuit just silly that i can access my xp machine from ubuntu but not ubuntu from xp its not the firewall either08:02
sertmannall the output from different commands are posted here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6715108:02
jbroomeAbsenth: i have thumbs, that's about as far as my knowledge goes08:02
AbsenthKernel-Kris, Is there any information on how to perhaps Stroke Evolution into working with Exchange 5.508:02
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Absenththat was good, I liked that.08:02
redon2this is the line I uncommented from sources.list: deb-src http://ar.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe08:03
Kernel-KrisAbsenth, you've used the exchange connector?08:03
redon2IOne would think that corresponds to the 'src' of the 'universe' of packages meant for 'breezy'.08:03
redon2s/IOne/One08:03
AbsenthKernel-Kris, well, I launched Evolution for the first time on ubuntu, it asked me what kind of server I wanted, I chose exchange.  It asked for a Username, and a OWA08:04
Jowiodatubuntu: i don't have it either. it works for me anyway. alright. strange though.08:04
ompaulSarr-chan, when you boot you might try the server install (typing server at the beginning) and after that apt-get ubuntu-desktop and build-essentials - it might work08:04
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Kernel-KrisAbsenth, for some  reason it doesnt work right like that you need to run ximian-connector-setup-2.2 from console08:04
AbsenthKernel-Kris, is there a seperate exchange connector I should be aware of perhaps?  When I use the Authenticate I get an error saying Exchange 5.5 isn't supported only 2000 and 200308:04
Kernel-KrisAbsenth, for some  reason it doesnt work right like that you need to run ximian-connector-setup-2.2 from console08:04
AbsenthKernel-Kris, fantastic.  I'll give that a shot.08:04
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[LethAL] Does anyone know more about the sudoers file than man tells me?08:06
AbsenthKernel-Kris, "The  Exhange server URL you provided is for an Exchange 5.5 Server, Ximian Connector supports MS Exchange 2k, and 2k3 only."  Guess my mail server = old and busted :(08:06
sertmann Capabilities: <available only to root> <-- is there something i can do to change this?08:06
Kernel-KrisAbsenth, i thought the ximian-connector-setup-2.2 supported 5.508:07
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Kernel-KrisAbsenth, let me check a lil08:07
AbsenthKernel-Kris, many thanks for the assistance.08:07
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ompaulredon2, for fun /msg ubotu sources and restricted that should keep you busy for ohh 5 minutes :)08:09
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redon2the bot isn't alive08:10
redon2I just did `apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-8-amd64-generic08:10
redon2'.08:10
GundjahDoes anyone know a good transparent desktop calendar app?08:11
redon2I'm now waiting for it to finish.08:11
Gundjahl08:12
JowiGundjah: if by transparent you mean transparent background, you can try gdesklets08:12
GundjahJowi - I mean a calendar with a transparent background08:13
ompaulredon2, get some messages from ubotu?08:14
JowiGundjah: gdesklets is the only app i have tried that has got something like that.08:14
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Kernel-KrisAbsenth, sorry looks like youll have to upgrade exchange.....lol08:15
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gearshifterhello08:15
sasch1somehow I cant use us_intl keyboard anymore after upgrading to breezy and using fglrx? I have a us-keyboard but I need german "umlaute". Can anybody help please?08:15
AbsenthKernel-Kris, I figured.  That's a project for a few months from now.  I guess in the interim, I'll use Crossover to install Outleak.08:15
AbsenthKernel-Kris, Thanks for looking into it for me though.08:15
redon2thanks paul.08:16
Jowisasch1: the keyboard option is in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. look for the option "XkbLayout"08:16
gearshifterI am also having a problem.  When attempting to install ubuntu (breezy edition).  I pressed enter to intall the normal editon.  The computer is having problems with loading things.  It went through initializing all my drivers etc and now it went to a black screen08:16
KromonosI've added #ubuntu to my auto connect in xchat, but he always connect to #ubuntu-unregged. Why?08:16
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lsuactiafner12197: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnosuchshare (You specified an invalid share name)08:16
lsuactiafnertrying to smb mout08:17
lsuactiafnermount -t smbfs -o username=tridge,password=foobar,lfs //192.168.0.4/J /mnt/0208:17
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Kernel-KrisAbsenth, i have always had problems with X-over and outlook......it always crashes on me when i want to send and recieve mail08:17
lsuactiafnerremote share is a USB mobile drive08:17
ompaulKromonos, also put the same password into server password and you will end up here08:17
lsuactiafnererr i mean if i specify correcnt name08:18
lsuactiafner12229: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnomem (Insufficient server memory to perform the requested function.)08:18
AbsenthKernel-Kris, worst case I just use the web interface08:18
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gearshifterafter i hit instalation when my cd of breezy boots.  IT runs through different inputs (aka keyboard etc) and it stops at my usb driver08:18
Kernel-KrisAbsenth, well if you need help upgrading exchange let me know.....lol just did it08:19
redon2Finally, I am compiling the needed sources.08:19
AbsenthKernel-Kris, you spend much time here in #ubuntu?08:19
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AbsenthI'll probibly take you up on that offer once we get our action pack.08:19
jc-dentonhow can i tell my sys to automatically start beagle08:19
jc-dentonits not in /etc/init.d08:19
sasch1Jowi: I found it..do I have to change it to "us_intl"?08:19
Kernel-KrisAbsenth, a lil each day but i have MSN if not08:20
ompaulKromonos, put the same password into nickserv into server password and you will end up here - you register by typing /msg nickserv register [your_password_here] 08:20
apsyncwith which extension can I compare (windows's) .exe files in linux?08:20
AbsenthKernel-Kris, mind if I add you?08:20
ompaulapsync, there is none08:20
Kromonosompaul: thx08:20
Kernel-KrisAbsenth, no its crazy_kirk@hotmail.com08:20
Jowisasch1: probably. i don't know that keyboardlayout you are using specifically.08:20
lsuactiafnerapsync : there is no extention, but sometimes ppl use .bin08:20
apsynchmm Ok...08:20
Absenthdanke.08:20
apsyncand what about virii08:21
apsyncthey use .bin? or none08:21
sasch1Jowi: its a simple us-keyboard08:21
gearshifterAnyone know what might be causing my initialization of the install to freeze?  It freezes when running through my ucf drivers08:21
lsuactiafnerapsync : there is no virii for linux08:21
ompaulapsync, or type >>file Filename<< which will tell you what is in a file --- whats a virus this is linux you must be thinking of something else08:21
redon2ok now, what's the ubuntu way of setting up wifi cards?08:21
rabbit78[LethAl] : you also had a problem with usplash, right?08:21
apsynclol08:21
apsynccool :p08:21
Jowisasch1: i'm european. french keyboard with swedish layout.08:21
[LethAL] rabbit78, Well, it doesn't /start/work/etc08:22
D1redon2, depends on your card.08:22
lsuactiafnerapsync : linux is fundamentally secure, very difficult for a virus to run on linux because of user accounts, filesystems ect.08:22
sasch1Jowi: hehe, I am dutch, us keyboard without any options anymore08:22
D1ndiswrapper or the traditional way.08:22
redon2I just installed drivers for the card and is working.08:22
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redon2Had to use ndiswrapper.08:22
D1ah.08:22
ompaul!tell redon2 about ndiscwrapper08:22
Jowisasch1: ah. hehe08:22
D1I'd try using the gnome util08:22
ompaul!tell redon2 about ndiswrapper08:22
redon2yeah okl08:22
D1now that the card is detected and all.08:22
D1if not, then just manually with iwconfig and friends.08:23
sasch1Jowi: but why cant I use the Gnome-internal Keyboard selector anymore?08:23
Jowisasch1: can't answer that either since i am not using gnome.08:23
sasch1Jowi: ok..restarting X08:23
redon2Starting the ssh daemon, how?08:24
redon2I was hoping there was an init script at /etc/init.d, but no.08:24
Jowiredon2: /etc/init.d/ssh start08:24
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redon2that script isn't there, so I am assuming I have to install OpenSSH08:25
Jowiredon2: yeah that'll help :)08:26
rabbit78[LethAL] : I got it working. I had to remove the vga= and video= options from the kernel command line in /boot/grub/menu.lst08:26
redon2damn, this thing doesn't have anything I need installed by default08:26
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[LethAL] rabbit78, I don't have either08:27
ompaulredon2, apt-get install build-essential you will want that for your compiler - remember this distro was not designed for the power user :)08:27
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nightswimit wosnt? :(08:28
ompaulredon2, but many many of them use it :-) ease of use08:28
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ompaulnightswim, see what happens if you jump in before I finish :-) hehehe08:28
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redon2ease is what I'm looking for and still haven't found. j/k08:29
pratykhi08:30
rabbit78[LethAl] : Then I don't know ... sorry08:30
[LethAL] rabbit78, No problem08:30
Jowihello pratyk08:30
[LethAL] Grrr08:30
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pratyki'm having video driver problem with 865GBF board08:31
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fallenone!themes08:32
ubotufrom memory, themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com08:32
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xor2k5Hi!08:33
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jalvarezromhello all08:34
xor2k5I got the latest ubuntu, but networking doesn't work. The 8139too driver seems to be broken for my chip08:34
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xor2k5Both Knoppix and Kanotix work, but Ubuntu doesn't want to let me use my network08:34
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lsuactiafnerxor2k5 : wont be the 8139 driver, since its a kernel driver. the kernel has no bugs08:35
nerdunithello08:35
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lsuactiafnerxor2k5 : prolly the driver aint inserted in the kernel but the module insert scripts.08:35
nerdunitdang it took me forever to figure out what do to to get registered08:35
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jalvarezromI don't view the package file "java-package" in repositories. Where is it?08:35
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xor2k5lsuactiafner: I inserted it manually08:35
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macavelimcjoin #ubuntu channel08:36
xor2k5lsuactiafner: I configured the whole network - my IP and a gateway - in the console08:36
Seveasmacavelimc, you're there already :)08:36
Jowimacavelimc: you're already here08:36
Jowiwelcome08:36
nerdunitwho can i chat to walk my through setting up ubuntu on my imac08:36
[LethAL] and goodbye08:36
jalvarezromanyone know where is "java-package" in repositories? I'm looking for it08:36
kemikits been removed, legal issues08:37
xor2k5But however. What's the easiest way to build a linux-kernel package for ubuntu?08:37
lsuactiafnerxor2k5 : then it is definatly the boot scripts that aint inserting int automatically08:37
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lsuactiafnerxor2k5 : not sure where ubuntu puts the command08:37
xor2k5lsuactiafner: They inserted it, but I deleted it and modprobed it again08:37
macavelimccan someone help me install JEdit??08:37
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odatubuntuanyone familiar with swat for samba?08:38
xor2k5lsuactiafner: .oO(some network drivers need to be kicked)08:38
dooglusxor2k5: amazing.  I was just about to ask exactly the same question.  is there a guide somewhere to building the ubuntu kernel from source?08:38
lsuactiafnerxor2k5 : not for ubuntu, but for your machine, the kernel is independant of ubuntu, but you wont get it right so dont bother, its not as difficult, but just too much effort to explain08:38
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lsuactiafnerits NOT an ubuntu kernel. its the linux kernel08:38
lsuactiafnerthe kernel is not dependant on ubuntu @ all08:38
macavelimccan someone help me install JEdit??08:38
lsuactiafnerkernel.org <-- go there.08:38
Jowimacavelimc: it is not available in the repos. you're installing from source?08:38
xor2k5yeah, sure, but I guess the ubuntu guys patched it a little bit08:39
doogluslsuactiafner: there are ubuntu specific kernel patches aren't there?08:39
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lsuactiafnerdooglus : no08:39
lsuactiafnerdooglus : and there shouldnt be08:39
xor2k5And I want to build  a package, not just an image. Would be too easy08:39
doogluslsuactiafner: oh08:39
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nerdunitPlease, i'm about to oull my hair out08:39
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xor2k5So ubuntu uses the f*kn standard debian kernel?08:40
dooglusnerdunit: use a razor instead.  far less painful08:40
lsuactiafner!imac08:40
ubotuI don't know, lsuactiafner08:40
ompaulmacavelimc, have you got sources for it?08:40
nerdunitI am attempting(very badly to install ubuntu on my apple imac08:40
profalguien que hable espaol por aqui08:40
ompaul!es08:40
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:40
lsuactiafnerxor2k5 : it uses sources from kernel.org and puts in every possible module it can. nothing special.08:40
lsuactiafnerxor2k5 : just like slackware would do, its the correct way.08:40
nerdunitand  its not reading the cd08:41
nerdunitat least that what i think08:41
xor2k5lsuactiafner: Yeah, but why is 8139too broken then?08:41
Nicks68There must be some patches, like the AVI-radeon.08:41
profno puedo montar mi disquete de 3 1/2 ayudenme por favor08:41
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lsuactiafnertho slackware kernels have less options, but it works most of the time to get a running system, tho not always working, but definatly booting+running08:41
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xor2k5lsuactiafner: I can't remember it being broken in a vanilla kernel08:41
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lsuactiafnerxor2k5 : do you listen @ all? <lsuactiafner> xor2k5 : prolly the driver aint inserted in the kernel but the module insert scripts08:41
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lsuactiafnerxor2k5 : you're being annoying. am going back to work.08:42
redondos_I'm finally free.08:42
[LethAL] free of what?08:42
[LethAL] Winblows?08:42
xor2k5lsuactiafner: do so, but though thx08:42
redondos_After installing ndiswrapper, I can now move my ass off the chair.08:42
nerdunitI burn the CD from my pc with deepburner and then attempted to boot to it and it simply ingnore my command and booted to the mac os that is currently installed08:42
nerdunitall i want is ubuntu on my imac08:42
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Dr_Willisnerdunit,  have you googled for the alternative4 ways to make the thing boot the cd?08:43
Jowinerdunit: i though you needed to press a key to boot from CD on an imac?08:43
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Dr_Willisjust "C" does not always work08:43
nerdunitI tried to do that and it didn;t work08:43
odatubuntuanyone familiar with swat for samba?08:43
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dave_are there any extra repo's for the breezy preview?08:43
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nerdunitI didn't find any other ways of booting from cd on google, just "C"08:44
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apokryphosdave_: extra repos? There's plenty of mirrors, if that's what you mean.08:44
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yipangelCould someone please answer a question for me about shockwave/flash?08:45
zyphi can't get my nvidia card up and running08:45
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zyphwell the accelerated drivers08:45
dave_apokryphos, like it says to do on ubuntuguide for hoary08:45
ompaulyipangel, is your question hard or easy (if you asked you could have found out by now :))08:45
dave_still a bit of a newbie08:45
jessy#ubuntu-fr08:45
mchammerubuntuguide seems to be down08:45
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odatubuntuzyph did you check synaptic?08:45
yipangelLOL!08:45
Dr_Willisnerdunit,  thers at least 3 ways.  ->   just googled and found -->  holding down shift-command-option-delete instead08:45
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yipangelI need to update shockwave, and I'm not sure which version to install.08:46
apokryphosubotu: tell dave_ about ubuntuguide08:46
zyphodatubuntu, does synaptic have the official accelerated drivers?08:46
yipangelthe auto get doesn't work for that08:46
mchammerhi @all does anyone know how to run the version probe from the installer in a running ubuntu08:46
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nerdunitcommand is open apple Right?08:46
Red_Bullethow can i close one channel in irssi08:46
odatubuntuzyph, yea08:46
jbroomeRed_Bullet: /window close08:46
Red_Bulletblagodarq08:46
Red_Bulletooo08:47
Red_Bullet10x08:47
Red_Bullet:)08:47
Dr_Willisnerdunit,  no clue. - also you may want to be sure the caps lock is OFF.. hold down c.. reboot and KEEP the C held down..08:47
zyphodatubuntu, i'll have to check that again08:47
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dave_apokryphos, still a bit of a newbie, :-/08:47
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LiberalTugboatexit08:47
zyphodatubuntu, is that in the linux restricted modules?08:48
pratykdoes any one know how to video driver in 865GBF intel boeard08:48
nerdunitokay i'll try again08:48
fallenoneNice im getting used to ubuntu :D08:48
apokryphosdave_: well, state what it is you're trying to do =)08:48
zyphbecause i have that installed08:48
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odatubuntuzyph, go in synaptic and do a search for nvidia using the search names and descriptions08:48
dave_apokryphos, in hoary i think i had to add the repos to get xmms, thunderbird, etc08:48
zyphodatubuntu, i have done that08:48
fallenonedoes counterstrike run in linux ubuntu??08:49
zyphodatubuntu, i see many many many many files08:49
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apokryphosdave_: xmms and thunderbird are both in the main repository. Just sudo aptitude install xmms mozilla-thunderbird08:49
macavelimcAnyone have a recommendation for what program to use to program java on Ubuntu?08:50
Dr_Willisa text editor. :P08:50
zyphodatubuntu, i see nothing about 3d accelerated drivers08:50
dave_apokryphos, ah right, and i can get firefox flash, etc there? synaptic?08:50
pratykdoes any one know how to video driver in 865GBF intel boeard08:50
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apokryphosdave_: you will have to enable extra repositories for that. Follow the instructions that ubotu gives you08:51
odatubuntuzyph, use nvidia-glx  and nvidia-kernel-common08:51
dave_apokryphos, what does the aptitude after sudo signify08:51
zyphodatubuntu, yeah but will that allow me to run 3d games?08:51
apokryphosdave_: aptitude is a front-end to apt, another way of using Ubuntu's package manager. Synaptic is a GUI front-end to it.08:51
odatubuntuzyph, yes08:51
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apokryphosdave_: I'm off for a bit now, but follow those instructions and let anyone here in know if you encounter any problemos08:51
dave_apokryphos, cheers will have to do that once its finished updating08:51
dave_apokryphosthanks08:52
darknatureanyone here can help me install Cedera CVS I am having alot of trouble following these instructions08:52
zyphodatubuntu, i was always under the impression i had to use the drivers from the nvidia site08:52
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zyphodatubuntu, i'm not from a debian environment, so this is new to me08:52
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darknatureblah Cedega i mean*08:52
odatubuntuzyph, they are the same that are in synaptic and or the ubuntu/debian repositories08:52
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Butcherbird-Jrwhat is the easiest way to install xserver with apt-get.  Are there a couple of packages or is there one big one.08:53
yipangelShockwave version needed, anyone?08:53
odatubuntuanyone familiar with swat for samba?08:53
zyphodatubuntu, so the module is 'nvidia'?08:53
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zyphodatubuntu, sorry i just want to be positive we are on the same page here08:54
nerdunitdr_willis the follwoing happened08:54
odatubuntuzyph, are you in synaptic right now?08:54
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zyphodatubuntu, already done downloading, but i'll load it back up08:54
darknatureAnyone here knows how to install Cedega CVS pretty well ?08:54
zyphodatubuntu, ok yeah, it's on08:55
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alec_anybody here?08:55
benkong2I followed this http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/DEV/Java+on+Debian still no java on AMD64 breezy fresh install. What am I doing wrong08:55
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Seveasalec_, no08:55
odatubuntuzyph, are you using ubuntu?08:55
zyphodatubuntu, oh ok now i see08:55
nerdunitdr_willis I attempted both way and they both yielded a little folder with a question mark and the finder logo, after which the os. booted to a error message that said the disk is not readable and needs to be initialized with a drop  down menu that offer initialization options08:55
odatubuntuzyph, ok08:56
alec_I need help installing LimeWire08:56
Seveasbenkong2, grab the amd64 bin from sun and use make-jpkg08:56
alec_I'm brand new at Ubuntu08:56
zyphodatubuntu, thanks big time =D08:56
Seveasthe osuosl stuff is out of date08:56
odatubuntuzyph, no prob08:56
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benkong2Seveas; k I'll try now08:56
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alec_Can anybody help me>08:56
alec_hello?08:57
alec_...08:57
Dr_Willisnerdunit,  time to go check in #OSX or other channels  then.08:57
Dr_Williswork time for me08:58
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alec_Can somone help me install LimeWire08:58
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mike-mhello08:58
nerdunitk, thanks08:58
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mike-mis dpkg in the basic installation of ubuntu ?08:58
alec_Can somone help me install LimeWire?08:58
lsuactiafneralec_ : dont repeat your question. there are instructions on the limewire site, follow them.08:58
Seveasmike-m, of course...08:58
Jowimike-m: yes08:59
lsuactiafnermike-m : apt-get is08:59
lsuactiafneralec_ : if you repeat your question that often you will get banned from the channel. ask every 10 minutes08:59
pratykdoes any one know how to video driver in 865GBF intel boeard08:59
alec_please anybody i really need help i'm brand new08:59
lsuactiafnerif someone wanted to help you they would. i already answered you08:59
mike-myeah, I was thinking so, a guy said he needs to install it .. WEIRD :)08:59
alec_you answered me?09:00
Seveasmike-m, that guy is crazy09:00
Seveasthe installer needs dpkg...09:00
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Seveasso if it's not there, he did not install Ubuntu09:00
yipangelso there is no shockwave for Linux, at all??? I just found a thread in the forums....09:01
alec_does anybody have LimeWire on their computer09:01
mike-myes he is!09:01
yipangelyet at the site they list some O.o09:01
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mike-mSeveas, he is searching since 5 minutes for "dkpg" and not for dpkg, and I told him again and again, he is stupid09:01
alec_mike-m do you have wine?09:02
mike-malec_, no09:02
mike-mI don't need it09:02
elmagohi  guys09:02
mike-mCU09:02
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elmagoi have a big problem, since a few days cant i go on some websites09:02
pratykname it09:03
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Elkoparents installed a pronfilter?09:03
CyberNajahello09:03
CyberNaja^^09:03
elmagono i dont think so09:03
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pratykpron is bad09:03
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elmagobecause on my laptop i can go on all websites09:03
yanishi,what is the name of the bit torrent client that comes with ubuntu???09:03
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alec_Does anybody havge Wine on their computer?09:04
pratyksorry porn09:04
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CyberNajaI've just finish installing ubuntu... i've got a small pb09:04
elmagoazureus is a good client09:04
pratykya inside it09:04
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pratykmine's run on wine09:04
alec_It's called: GNOME BitTorrent09:04
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benkong2Seveas; do I do the make-jpkg in my home dir or mv the file to /opt or something?09:04
alec_pratyk could you help me?09:04
butcherbirdalec_, you should not need wine for limewire but I believe ( Ive never user limewire) you will need to install java support09:04
CyberNajathe installer hadn't ask me a passwd for the root access... therefore i've no access to root09:05
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alec_Java Support09:05
alec_hmmm09:05
alec_at the wensite it says .rpm file09:05
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pratykya09:05
alec_pratyk could send me a private message09:05
JowiCyberNaja: that's correct. The root account is not in use by default09:05
alec_i dont know how09:05
ElkoCyberNaja: sudo -s, then passwd root09:05
butcherbirdalec_, you have the rpm?09:05
Jowiubotu, tell CyberNaja about root09:05
pratykalec_ change .rpm to .deb09:06
CyberNajaJowi, what ???? !!09:06
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elmagohas noone a idea, when i tried to update my system on my home pc, i even cannot conect to a us.archive.ubuntu server09:06
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CyberNajaoh, thanks :)09:06
JowiCyberNaja: Ubuntu uses Sudo by default. read the link that Ubotu provided you :)09:06
elmagoplz i didnt have a idea09:06
alec_yes i have the rpm09:06
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Micksauboto, tell me about root09:06
Micksaer09:07
Micksaubotu, tell me about root09:07
lucaascan i upgrade to breezy in x, or should i run it in console mode?09:07
apokryphosMicksa: you can investigate with ubotu in /msg09:07
elmagox09:07
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crimsunlucaas: you can dist-upgrade while running X Window System, sure09:07
benkong2error from make-jpkg "dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: could not find path for libXp.so.6" is this abnormal?09:07
lucaascrimsun, ok, thanks09:07
CyberNajayes, thanks Jowi :)09:07
pratykAlec_ use this command to change rpm to deb "alien -d filename.rpm"09:07
JowiCyberNaja: You're welcome09:07
crimsunbenkong2: that's a bug, you'll need to install libxp6 separately09:08
alec_ok let me try09:08
alec_in root09:08
benkong2crimsun; k off to synaptic09:08
alec_or regualr09:08
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pratykregular09:08
jmazaredo_any filipino here09:08
elmagocome on guys someone must have an idear why i can not conect to some servers and not to others09:08
dieppiejanyone have any experience with an medion md40900 usb wlan adapter, getting it working in 5.10?09:09
pratyksorry in root09:09
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alec_lol, i got the error09:09
elmagowhat error09:09
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adjkasjdklasHello.09:09
adjkasjdklasI have a problem.09:10
pratykolleh09:10
alec_it says not found09:10
adjkasjdklasI wanted to give Ubuntu a chance.09:10
adjkasjdklasBut I need to have some help.09:10
pratykr u using ubuntu09:10
deFrysk!ask09:10
] N[ameanyone know how to add a network printer thats shared out through ADS09:10
alec_pratyk send me one of those private chat things09:10
pratykadjka.. then try09:10
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elmagohow could it be that i cant conect to some servers09:10
sweenyi don't suppose anyone's had any luck running the nomachine nx client on amd6409:10
Jowielmago: are you behind a router?09:10
elmagoand a few time later i can09:10
elmagoyes09:11
adjkasjdklasIt's about MP3-files.09:11
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alec_pratyk send a private chat, i dont know how to09:11
Jowielmago: try to connect to another eth-port on the router. it might be messed up09:11
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adjkasjdklasTotem won't play my MP3.09:11
elmagohow??09:11
adjkasjdklasIt says something about a plugin.09:11
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grant__having trouble getting xine or gxine to work09:11
[LethAL] adjkasjdklas, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad09:11
reiki_workadjkasjdklas: readwhat it says09:11
alec_pratyk send a private chat, i dont know how to09:11
] N[ameadjkasjdklas, did you install the codecs to play mp3's09:11
Jowielmago: you can also try to connect to the same plug in the router as the laptop uses since you're sure that one works fine at least09:12
pratykme too first time in irc09:12
alec_i see09:12
alec_let me try09:12
apsynchow can I burn iso on a cd in ubuntu?09:12
elmagoyes im on it09:12
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adjkasjdklasgstreamer0.8-mad?09:12
[LethAL] apsync, right-click it in Nautilus09:12
elmagobecause i cannot conect to this server on my home pc09:12
grant__it says:  Error reading NAV packet09:12
apsyncOk, Nautilus? :o09:12
[LethAL] adjkasjdklas, Yes, Mpeg codecs for gstreamer09:12
adjkasjdklasEhm, I'm no computer person.09:12
adjkasjdklasHow do I do that?09:13
alec_pratyk look at bottom of screen09:13
grant__libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.09:13
[LethAL] adjkasjdklas, Open a terminal09:13
grant__aaahhhh09:13
adjkasjdklasYes.09:13
apsyncah lol09:13
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[LethAL] adjkasjdklas, "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad"09:13
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[LethAL] adjkasjdklas, Then type in your password09:13
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alec_pratyk look at bottom of screen09:13
adjkasjdklasYes.09:13
] N[ameadjkasjdklas, then it will install itself and it should work after that09:13
pratyknothin09:13
alec_hmm09:14
adjkasjdklasHm...09:14
adjkasjdklasCouldn't find the package.09:14
deFryskadjkasjdklas, did you add repositories universe , multiverse ?09:14
alec_now look at bottom09:14
[LethAL] !tell adjkasjdklas about repos09:14
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[LethAL] adjkasjdklas, Take the first link ubotu sent you09:14
alec_i sent you a diff window thing.09:14
pratyki'm using icechat in damn windows09:15
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alec_o you are09:15
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alec_damn09:15
] N[ameubuntuguide.org is down?09:15
alec_you have AIM09:15
deFrysk!tell adjkasjdklas about synaptic09:15
pratyknope09:15
alec_google talk09:15
pratykya09:15
deFrysk!tell adjkasjdklas about apt-get09:15
alec_do you know how to use it09:15
pratykoff course09:15
adjkasjdklasdeFrysk: I'll have a look ;)09:15
alec_ok09:15
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alec_my email is09:15
DaSkreechDoes Brezzy ship with ono?09:16
alec_ravage928@gmail.com09:16
GhostFreemanis it safe to upgrade bsdutils, mount, and util-linux09:16
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DaSkreechmono?09:16
deFryskDaSkreech, yoko ono ?09:16
GhostFreemanSynaptic tells me there are new versions on repo09:16
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reiki_workGhostFreeman: yes... I did those last night09:16
DaSkreechbahMono09:16
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ElkoGhostFreeman: no prob here09:16
ubuntuhallo09:16
DaSkreechdeFrysk: :-)09:16
Elkoreiki_work, reiki, eh? :)09:16
GhostFreemanaight, thanks09:16
reiki_workElko: indeed :)09:17
alec_pratyk you got it09:17
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Elkoheh, niceee09:17
tyloDoes anyone have an onboard ac97 soundcard and full duplex sound?09:17
deFryskDaSkreech, yes btw :)09:17
crimsuntylo: most AC'97 codecs control a DSP that supports full duplex, why?09:17
DaSkreechdeFrysk: Thanks :-)09:18
tyloI can't get mine working.09:18
crimsuntylo: you can't hear what you're recording simultaneously?09:18
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pratykyup09:18
alec_pratyk i can't09:18
alec_im using linux09:18
tyloWhat I can't do is listen to music and hear Skype ring when someone calls.09:18
pratykoh09:18
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pratyki'm having prob with my modems in linux09:19
tyloI've been posting about it in the forums, and only one guy has hinted that he might have an answer. But I don't know if he'll respond.09:19
alec_o ok09:19
alec_why dont you get aol instant mesenger09:19
crimsuntylo: that has nothing to do with "full duplex"09:19
crimsuntylo: that's known as pcm multiplexing09:19
crimsuntylo: "full duplex" is recording and playing back simultaneously for this context09:20
Hoxzersomebody here uses valknut?09:20
grant__libdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 1.0 from http://xine.sf.net09:20
grant__libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.09:20
grant__any clues?09:20
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pratyktoo many ids09:20
tyloAlright, does anyone have an onboard ac97 soundcard that is able to pcm multiplex?09:20
dooglusdoes anyone know how to turn on boot logging into /var/log/boot.log?09:20
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alec_all you do is make one and talk to me09:20
deFrysktylo, do u use kde ?09:21
crimsuntylo: many are able - see the Nvidia SoundStorm or various VIA chipsets.09:21
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deFrysktylo, no privating , thanks09:21
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crimsuntylo: however, not all drivers are capable of exploiting full capabilities - for instance, Nvidia does not release the specs for their sound chip (rather the one they use), so you cannot use its pcm multiplexing.09:21
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alec_pratyk just create one then unistalll it09:22
CatheloHow do I get the kernel source?  I have some graphics drivers and they tell me to go into /usr/src/linux-2.6, but I have no subdirectories under /usr/src.09:22
deFrysktylo, the txt is red becouse I use your name in this line09:22
tylointeresting09:22
crimsuntylo: you can use the dmix pcm plugin that comes standard with alsa-lib, but you may not have much luck with Skype, as it requires OSS [emulation] 09:22
deFryskits called highlighting tylo09:23
tyloyeah I know, i never saw that stuff in mIRC though. :-)09:23
pratyksorry09:23
PlukHoxzer, i do use valknut09:23
tylocrimsun, I've been trying to use the alsa-lib settings09:23
alec_pratyk, is there any other way to talk?09:23
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dooglusCathelo: "sudo urpmi linux-source"09:24
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Cathelothanks dooglus09:24
tylocrimsun, how can i know if Nvidia makes me onboard sound?09:24
tyloer, my onboard sound09:24
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crimsuntylo: do you have an Nforce motherboard?09:24
dooglusCathelo: that'll get you a '.tar.bz2' file in /usr/src.  use 'tar xfj' to extract it09:24
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alec_pratyk can you send me an email with a description on how to do it?09:25
Seveasdooglus, ewww urmpi...09:25
dooglusCathelo: have about 300Mb of disk space before you attempt to untar it!09:25
pratykok09:25
Seveasyou're in #ubuntu, not #redhat :)09:25
dooglusSeveas: sorry...  :)  it's an alias.09:25
alec_pratyk thanks09:25
MaCaCould someone with sun-j2re1.5 please send me the output of "apt-cache policy sun-j2re1.5"...09:25
dooglusSeveas: I didn't realise I was going to be staying here09:25
Cathelodooglus: I'm getting "sudo: urpmi: command not found"09:25
dooglusalias urpmi='sudo apt-get install'09:25
tylocrimsun, I'm not really sure. If my box came with a layout of the innards, i don't have it anymore. Is there someway I can find out in the terminal?09:25
Catheloah, k. :)09:26
crimsuntylo: you could inspect the output from lspci (don't paste here)09:26
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dooglusCathelo: I meant "sudo apt-get install linux-source"...  urpmi is a bad habit I picked up from #mandrake09:26
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tylocrimsun, right, because it's really long. :-P09:26
dooglus(although it's a lot easier to type)09:26
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tylocrimsun, which line exactly am I looking for?09:27
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crimsuntylo: something that says nforce09:27
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tylocrimsun: I don't see any Nforce.09:28
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czerwiecchello09:28
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grant__anyone have any luck getting xine to work?09:29
tylocrimsun: So I don't have an Nvidia onboard sound. What does that mean for me?09:29
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grant__I suppose I'll not be able to get it working... running outta time here.  Thanks anyway.  C U all later... :)09:30
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crimsuntylo: that means you're going to have to use dmix with Skype if you can.09:32
Elkoxine works ootb here09:32
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sweenyanyone here manage to get nxclient working on amd64?09:32
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Elkoain't I lucky :)09:32
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tylocrimsun: Or get a sound card, right?09:33
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arkaishi09:33
vrlnanyone on a breezy default install here, who hasn't manually touched any of the symlinks at /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc5.d?09:33
benkong2Seveas; I did the make-jpkg on the java.bin loggoed out, shutdown, cold boot, restarted and I still have java 1.4.2 gij GNU java. Any suggestions?09:33
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benkong2vrln; I haven't09:34
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Seveasbenkong2, you need to install the .deb it creates09:34
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vrlnbenkong2: can you copypaste me ls -l /etc/rc2.d and then the same for /etc/rc5.d09:34
vrlnI deleted a few symlinks there and now I want them back to default09:34
vrln:)09:34
vrlnwould be REALLY appreciated09:34
vrlnI never new there was a cool tool for selecting bootup scripts (bum)09:35
vrlnknew*09:35
benkong2Seveas; i did the dpkg -i blah blah before shutting down09:35
benkong2vlrn yes09:35
ericzthe newest ubuntu is still 5.04 (Hoary Hedgehog) right?09:35
vrlnbenkong2: could you pm me those? (probably too much to spam to this channel)09:35
Seveasbenkong2, then sudo update-alternatives --config java09:35
Seveasbenkong2, then sudo update-alternatives --config javac09:35
Seveasbenkong2, then sudo update-alternatives --config jar09:35
annexIs it possible to use an older driver than the ones that come with xorg?  I'm trying to test something and I want to use an older version of the free ati driver.  How can I do this?09:36
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adjkasjdklasThank you very much for the links. I tried to understand them, but I'm still not sure how to get my Media Player play my MP3? :)09:36
benkong2msg vlrn09:36
tylospeaking of sound cards, if I end up having to purchase one, does anyone have any suggestions on one that would work either out of the box or quite easily with Ubuntu?09:37
redondos_adjkasjdklas, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=mp309:37
IHATEUSINGWINBUGanyone know how to uninstall .deb packages??09:37
alec_Sound Blaster 24 bit PCI09:37
alec_that's what i have09:37
tylomy requirement for the sound card is that it be able to let me hear Skype ring and listen to music simultaneously09:37
alec_works fine09:37
benkong2vlrn i'm an xchat newbie i did a dcc is that correct?09:37
benkong2Seveas; working on it09:38
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alec_tylo: what state are you located09:38
tyloalec_ : I'll take a look into it, thanks.09:38
tyloalec_ : Pennsylvania09:38
IHATEUSINGWINBUGyou see i messed up my cedega and i want to remove it completely09:39
alec_tylo: do you have comp usa's over there or best buy09:39
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tyloalec_ Best buy, I believe.09:39
alec_tylo: look in the sunday paper or check the websites09:39
alec_tylo: they have great deals09:39
jdefhi all09:39
tyloalec_ : Thanks for the tip.09:39
alec_tylo: that's where i got  mine infact09:39
alec_tylo: no problem09:39
jdefI use peachtree in windows is there a equivalent accounting program in linux09:40
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benkong2vrln; got it?09:40
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vrlnbenkong2: yes, thank you09:40
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vrlnyou just saved my day :)09:40
jdefbasic accounting and invoicing capability are all I require09:40
IHATEUSINGWINBUGhello anyone wnna know?? itd be appreciated09:40
benkong2k09:41
IHATEUSINGWINBUGhello anyone know?? itd be appreciated09:41
vrlnbenkong2: oops, sorry - actually /etc/rc5.d is still missing09:41
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vrlnI only got the first two lines from it09:41
apokryphosIHATEUSINGWINBUG: don't flood09:41
tyloalec_ : Is it a Sound Blaster Live! ?09:41
TwiggyAnybody here running mythtv via ubuntu?09:41
vrlngot the /etc/rc2.d one though09:41
Twiggywith mythgames09:41
holycowTwiggy, yes, but just myth09:42
holycownot with mythgames09:42
Twiggyholycow: No mythmusic either?09:42
holycownope09:42
alec_tylo: yes i think so09:42
IHATEUSINGWINBUGdamn im lagged09:42
alec_tylo: what's your price budget09:42
benkong2Seveas; whoopie!!! you're great. Where could I have learned about that alternatives thing without bugging the channel?09:43
tyloalec_ : Alright. I remember seeing on the forums that some people were actually having trouble with SB Live cards, but something cheap is definetly what I am looking for. Afterall, I was expecting my onboard sound to suffice.09:43
Seveasbenkong2, the manual :)09:43
Gnonthgo1help, I typhed ' sudo sh -c "LANG= chroot /media/hdb1 /bin/bash" ' ( changing / to /media/hdb1) then most of my devices dissapeard09:43
crimsuntylo: just avoid the 7.1-channel and 24-bit sblives09:43
alec_tylo: makes sense09:43
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crimsuntylo: get the "old" sblive09:43
lsuactiafnerSeveas : 13246: tree connect failed: ERRDOS - ERRnomem (Insufficient server memory to perform the requested function.) smb mount operation.. ideas?09:43
IHATEUSINGWINBUGhello09:43
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alec_tylo: i beleive that's the 16-bit09:43
Seveaslsuactiafner, none at all09:43
IHATEUSINGWINBUGanyone with some suggestion??09:43
benkong2:-) manual hmmm.....man alternatives?09:44
alec_about your lagging09:44
lsuactiafnerthanks09:44
IHATEUSINGWINBUGnope09:44
ElkoIHATEUSINGWINBUG: change your nick into something more pleasing to the eye ;p09:44
tyloalec_ crimsun: get the 16-bit one?09:44
Elkojust a suggestion..09:44
svuwhat would be the simplest way to restore linux loader after macos upgrade?09:44
oO[NOVA] Oohow do i run a command at startup with root privileges, and after the network stuff is running?09:44
crimsuntylo: yes09:44
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SEXYthere09:44
SEXYLOL09:44
Elkolol09:44
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alec_tylo: yes09:44
tyloalec_ : But you said your's was 24-bit. :-P09:45
BlissexoO[NOVA] Oo: add a script to do so to '/etc/init.d/' and then link it in the runlevel directories you want it to run for.09:45
alec_tylo: sorry09:45
alec_tylo: i meant 16-bit09:45
alec_tylo: i had just checked the box09:45
SEXYheres my problem09:45
SEXYhow to uninstall .deb packages09:45
tyloalec_ Ah. Nice, it'll be even cheaper now.09:45
jc-dentonSEXY: aptitude purge name09:46
crimsunSEXY: use a package manager like Synaptic, aptitude, ...09:46
alec_tylo: like... $25,0009:46
alec_tylo: or something like that09:46
tyloDo you guys think 24 bit will be supported in Breezy?09:46
jc-dentonSEXY: are u male or female?09:46
GnonthgolSEXY: as a normal package09:46
crimsuntylo: it is currently supported, and it sucks.09:46
jmazaredo_think he's male09:46
jmazaredo_hehe09:46
jc-dentonwe shouldnt help him then09:46
jc-denton:P09:46
crimsuntylo: you'll have many fewer headaches with the old sblive, trust me.09:46
jmazaredo_wahaha09:46
oO[NOVA] OoBlissex: i create a file called mountsmbshares in /etc/init.d/ and i put this command in: sudo mount -t smbfs "//192.168.0.250/ADMIN 2" "/mnt/smb/192.168.0.250/ADMIN 2" -o username=narf,password=narf,rw,fmask=777 and i ran init-rc.d mountsmbshares defaults to get it hooked up, but it's not working.09:46
alec_tylo: it was easy for me, it's easy for you09:47
SEXYLOL09:47
crimsuns/many//g09:47
jmazaredo_SEXY : u planning to play on ubuntu09:47
oO[NOVA] OoBlissex: the command does work when executed from a root terminal.09:47
SEXYnope09:47
tyloalec_ crimsun: Thanks gentlemen (I'm assuming).09:47
jmazaredo_hmm09:47
SEXYthey said they wanted my name nice in the eye09:47
alec_tylo: no problem09:47
ElkoSEXY: \rm package-version.deb ;p - seriously, can't you click your way through that instead of using apt-get remove --purge package?09:47
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crimsuntylo: yes (/whois would confirm)09:47
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libbenis there any easy way on making ICS ?09:48
tylocrimsun: ah, indeed.09:48
Seveaslibben, firestarter offers the one-click solution09:48
BlissexoO[NOVA] Oo: it is not as simple as that...09:48
alec_crimsun: do you know anything about wine?09:48
||cwhave an odd thing, I'm trying to figure out what package gnome-video-thumbnailer comes in, dpkg-query -S says it's not installed, but I most certainly do have it09:48
jmazaredo_SEXY:u want to uninstall trans..09:48
Seveas(if you use stat ip addresses on the internal network)09:48
BlissexoO[NOVA] Oo: first of all there is no need to 'sudo'.09:48
crimsunalec_: I don't use WINE often at all, sorry.09:48
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oO[NOVA] OoBlissex: alright.. i tried with and without..09:49
SEXYyah09:49
BlissexoO[NOVA] Oo: second that kind of stuff should be in '/etc/fstab'09:49
alec_crimsun: do you know how to install it?09:49
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alec_crimsun: or you never bothered09:49
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SEXYyou see imessed the fecking thing09:49
SEXYand i cant use it09:49
jc-dentonhumm09:49
jc-dentonalsa-space: xrun of at least 0.176 msecs. resetting stream 36.4% 682 0 98%09:49
||cwgoogling says it comes in nautilus-media, but that packages doens't exist in ubuntu09:49
jmazaredo_u from where09:49
BlissexoO[NOVA] Oo: third the script must be executable *and* linked into the relevant runlevel libraries.09:49
crimsunalec_: enable universe, then sudo aptitude install wine09:49
jc-dentonmplayer is slow and i dont know why09:49
jc-dentonit has a nice value of 009:49
Elkoso you didn't tell us the details... want us to guess.. duh09:49
jmazaredo_SEXY: i saw u on winehq09:50
SEXYyah09:50
Kejk_PLjc-denton: have you tried mpayer with "-vo xv" option09:50
cs_DKgnome-media maybe?09:50
Kejk_PL?09:50
SEXYi got both09:50
oO[NOVA] Ooblissex: i really can't get it to work in /etc/fstab, i've run through about 3 different configurations but it won't take. something with the space in the sharename throws it off-whack09:50
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SEXYwine and cedega09:50
Elkoirc support never changes, from rh to lfs to gentoo to this thing, lol09:50
jc-dentonKejk_PL: nope09:50
BlissexoO[NOVA] Oo: thats rather unfortunate.09:50
SEXYand they said its bad having both09:50
jmazaredo_you planning to play?09:50
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alec_crimsun; i sent you a message09:50
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GnonthgolWhy did my devices dissapear after ' sudo sh -c "LANG= chroot /media/hdb1 /bin/bash" ' ?09:51
jdefany good accounting apps in the repositories?09:51
jmazaredo_and you tried both but didnt work right09:51
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ElkoGnonthgol: /dev?09:51
alec_anybody know how to install wine on ubuntu?09:51
jc-dentonthat's not the problem09:51
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Seveasapt-get install wine09:51
Kejk_PLalec_: sudo apt-get install wine, but if U want newer want, ask again :)09:51
BlissexoO[NOVA] Oo: I'll try to find you the relevant docs, but in the meantime look at 'man update-rc.d'09:51
GnonthgolElko: ls: /dev/sd*: No such file or directory09:52
oO[NOVA] Ooblissex: already have.. but sure i'll just run through it again, perhaps i see something now that i missed earlier09:52
ElkoGnonthgol: you are in a chroot...09:52
alec_Kejk_PL: could you explain that more plz09:52
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alec_i'm new at linux09:52
alec_Kejk_PL: i'm new at linux09:52
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Kejk_PLalec_: open termin and type that09:52
jc-denton-ao esd seems to help09:52
alec_root or regualr09:52
Kejk_PLalec_: OR use synaptic09:52
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alec_Kejk_PL: i don't like synaptic09:53
SuperQalec_: regular is fine, as you can use sudo09:53
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aquadeluxehey09:53
alec_Kejk_PL: ok09:53
GnonthgolElko: yes, I just found out that the real problem is that my /proc is empty09:53
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BlissexoO[NOVA] Oo: try 'update-rc.d smbmountshares defaults 70'09:53
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SEXYwaaaaa anyone tell me how to remove cedega09:53
aquadeluxei have a problem with the ubuntu livecd i just burnt09:53
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jmazaredo_omg09:53
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ColonelKernelis there a howto anywhere on how to use vanilla kernels on ubuntu?09:54
Kejk_PLalec_: so use aptitude - it is for terminal, but is quite easy09:54
CookedGryphonmy mp3 player doesn't register as its full size on ubuntu, it readsall the files on it, but it says its full well before it is, when i do a df it gives the correct capacity but says it has more on than it actually does09:54
ElkoGnonthgol: you need to mount /proc, /dev before the chroot :)09:54
jmazaredo_SEXY: where r u from09:54
alec_Kejk_PL: it didnt work09:54
SeveasColonelKernel, the wiki has several09:54
alec_Kejk_PL:Reading package lists... Done09:54
alec_Building dependency tree... Done09:54
alec_Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.09:54
alec_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or09:54
alec_is only available from another source09:54
alec_E: Package wine has no installation candidate09:54
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jc-dentonhmm09:54
SeveasDO NOT PASTE in here09:54
SEXYY??09:54
jc-dentoni never had these probleme09:54
Seveasever.09:54
jc-dentons09:54
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ColonelKernelSeveas, ok - for some reason my vanilla kernel is trying to use devfs and device mapper is screwed too09:54
tylocrimsun: Do you think a CREATIVE LABS 16 BIT 5.1 SURROUND SOUND BLASTER LIVE would be alright?09:54
jmazaredo_nothing, im from philippines09:54
BlissexoO[NOVA] Oo: after doing so try to do '/etc/rc3.d/S70smbmountshares'09:54
Kejk_PLalec_:  U haven't add additional repositories09:54
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SEXYLOL same here09:55
jmazaredo_hehe09:55
jmazaredo_sabi na09:55
crimsuntylo: it would be fine.09:55
jmazaredo_wahahaha09:55
SEXYhehehe09:55
SEXYbakit tol?09:55
adjkasjdklasNice, looks like it's working.09:55
tylocrimsun: Great. Thanks.09:55
Seveasjmazaredo_, SEXY, stick to english in here.09:55
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Kejk_PLalec_: U have to add "universe" reposity, and probably "restricted" and multiverse" too09:55
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SEXYops sorry09:55
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jmazaredo_u planning on installing ragnarok09:55
ColonelKernelSeveas, wheres that wiki>09:55
ColonelKernel?09:56
Seveaswiki.ubuntu.com09:56
aquadeluxei burnt a recent build of ubuntu, the PPC version and it boots up until the a point where it just hangs. it is after the little ubuntu logo is and on the messages on the startup it says it cant find some sort of debian-installer or something like that09:56
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odatubuntuanyone familiar with webmin?09:56
ColonelKernelSeveas, thank you09:56
BlissexoO[NOVA] Oo: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-system.en.html#s-boot tells most of the story09:56
aquadeluxei burnt it with firestarter09:56
Seveasodatubuntu, somewhat...09:56
Kejk_PLalec_: you can do it in synaptic09:56
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Versedaqua which mac?09:57
ColonelKernelSeveas, Title Search: "vanilla kernel"09:57
ColonelKernel0 results of about 4653 pages. (2.37 seconds)09:57
Versedmine went flawless on a g4 45009:57
SeveasColonelKernel, so a title search for kernel09:57
aquadeluxeemac 1ghz 256meg ram it is the 2g09:57
jc-dentonits probably cos beagle is indexing the same disk where the movies are09:57
odatubuntuseveas: i just installed it and i can't log in09:57
SEXYjmazaredo, yah09:57
Seveasthe kernelcompilehowto and the like will help09:57
jmazaredo_im also installing it09:57
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SEXYany success?09:58
odatubuntuseveas, i have no idea what it wants as a user name and password09:58
jmazaredo_it is patching now09:58
jmazaredo_but09:58
SEXYjmazaredo, what you use??09:58
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jmazaredo_it closes (crashes) upon starting09:58
jmazaredo_wine09:58
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SEXYLOL09:58
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jmazaredo_also u crashing?09:58
SEXYmine got this damn DX errors09:58
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jmazaredo_aw09:59
aquadeluxe...09:59
dreameenguys09:59
Seveasodatubuntu, odatubuntu search the wiki09:59
Seveasit has a guide on hoe to get you started09:59
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dreameendo you know a program that can monitor running processes for some time and log it into a file09:59
jmazaredo_im using ubuntu and updated wine09:59
dreameen?09:59
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SEXYi can see the login but the game is like a fast moving cartoon film09:59
jmazaredo_do u have a screen shot?09:59
ColonelKernelSeveas, nothing on the wiki about it. :( my only complaint about ubuntu is the inability to use vanilla kernels10:00
SEXYno10:00
odatubuntujesus doesn't anyone have a friggin answer in here its always go read like we don't try that first10:00
jmazaredo_what video card d u use10:00
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nlitementhi =)10:00
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aquadeluxehey10:00
nlitementi just tried the live version10:00
St-hi folks,10:00
oO[NOVA] Ooodatubuntu: well.. usually that does solve the problem10:00
adjkasjdklasThanks everybody!10:00
St-aboulouz@ubuntu:~$ sudo synaptic10:00
adjkasjdklasIt's working!10:00
St-FaBouLoUz sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 19 23:18:30 200510:00
St-why ?10:00
nlitementit kicked ass imvho10:00
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SeveasColonelKernel, bs, you can use them perfectly fine..., just use make-kpkg to compile them10:00
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nlitementin my very humble opinion :p10:00
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odatubuntuin other words no one knows jack shit most of the time10:00
Seveasthat's what I sent you to the wiki for...10:00
SEXYand while im tweaking the wineconfig i messed it up. now i cant even config the goddam sh*t10:01
pluggodreameen, google for process accounting10:01
libbenisnt there any apps for making ICS in linux ?10:01
Seveasodatubuntu, language10:01
nlitementDoes the "full" version (rather than the live version) have more stuff, packets to choose from to install, etc.? :(10:01
dreameenpluggo, thanks10:01
aquadeluxeis anyone trying to help me at all???10:01
jmazaredo_hmm10:01
ColonelKernelSeveas, BS - I did use make-kpg. It tries to use devfs and gives me device-mapper errors.10:01
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nlitementcan someone answer me? :(10:01
pluggoaquadeluxe, I didn10:01
SeveasColonelKernel, then your .config has errors.10:01
pluggo't see your ???10:01
SuperQnlitement: the installed version has full access to "universe"10:01
aquadeluxeit was with a livecd for ppc10:02
nlitementSuperQ: it has apache etc?10:02
aquadeluxeit hung after awhile10:02
SuperQnlitement: correct10:02
nlitementyay!10:02
nlitement\o/10:02
nlitement\,,/10:02
Seveasnlitement, the live version loses everything when rebooting, sort of a difference :)10:02
aquadeluxeon the messages it said it couldnt find debian-installer or something like that10:02
ColonelKerneltheres nothing wrong with my .config.10:02
SuperQaquadeluxe: that's no good10:02
St-help me! pls... sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Sep 19 23:18:30 200510:02
jmazaredo_SEXY: have you tried as root then manual delete?10:02
nlitementDo the default ATI drivers support OpenGL??10:02
Seveasaquadeluxe, bad cd then, check the iso before burning and the cd after burning...10:02
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aquadeluxeit did that on another one of my macs, i guess it is a bad cd10:03
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bur[n] ernlitement: yes10:03
sudowhat are the packages that I need to compile? (./configure,make, make install)10:03
nlitementthehil: this linux distro is the best ive seen so far :)10:03
bur[n] ernlitement: if you are using breezy, it's a bit f'd up right now10:03
SEXYjmazaredo, i cant even find the folder for the fake drive10:03
Seveassudo, build-essential10:03
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doogluslsuactiafner was telling me that ubuntu uses a vanilla kernel.org kernel.10:03
jmazaredo_hahaha10:03
ColonelKernelAnyone else? howto for vanilla kernels with ubuntu?10:03
jmazaredo_its easy lol10:03
nlitementbur[n] er: i used 5.04, whats that called? Does it work?10:03
CookedGryphonGAIM and BMP seem to be quitting randomly, anyone got any idea y? i quit windows to get away from all that, i'm using the hoary stable vbersions10:04
dieppiejanyone have any experience with an medion md40900 usb wlan adapter, getting it working in 5.10?10:04
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jmazaredo_its in /home10:04
bur[n] ernlitement: hoary... yes10:04
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nlitementfunny names10:04
dooglushowever, breezy uses 2.6.12 and has inotify.  vanilla 2.6.12 doesn't have inotify.10:04
SEXYjmazaredo, i deleted the folder which contains the windows DIR but still tono avail10:04
pluggonlitement, most people think that about their favorite distro :) (I'm more of a Gentoo fan... :-P)10:04
dooglusso are there specific ubuntu kernel patches?10:04
Seveasdooglus, linux-patch-ubuntu is the package you are looking for10:04
nlitement=)10:04
odatubuntulololol on the homepage they say here is a utililty you can use if you have this problem i check and the utility isn't included lololol friggin linux crap10:04
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dooglusSeveas: so lsuactiafner was telling porkies?10:05
nlitementSeveas: is the pacake updating done through ui or through commands?10:05
ColonelKerneldooglus, yeah, the ubuntu kernels and the vanilla kernels are drastically different, enough that vanilla kernels do not work properly on Ubuntu10:05
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Seveasdooglus, he may be misinformed10:05
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Seveasnlitement, whatever you want10:05
jmazaredo_SEXY: in ubuntu Desktop Places-> Home Folder10:05
scenestarwell for some reason10:05
scenestari enjoy ubunut10:05
scenestarits just well enginered10:05
SEXYyeah been there10:05
Seveasthere's command line, curses UI and GUI10:05
jmazaredo_SEXY: your missing something10:06
jmazaredo_its hidden10:06
dooglus20:39 < dooglus> lsuactiafner: there are ubuntu specific kernel patches aren't there?10:06
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dooglus20:39 < lsuactiafner> dooglus : no     20:39 < lsuactiafner> dooglus : and there shouldnt be10:06
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SEXYjmazaredo, deleted eveything scept HOME10:06
ColonelKernelUbuntu is fantastic , but w/o the ability to use a vanilla kernel its kinda  screwy10:06
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jmazaredo_so just click VIEW Show hidden files10:06
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jmazaredo_its there10:06
SeveasColonelKernel, why do you insist on a vanilla kernel so much btw?10:06
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dooglusColonelKernel: what happens if you build a vanilla kernel and try using it with ubuntu?10:06
ColonelKernelSeveas, because I like them10:06
dooglus(I was just about to to fix the inotify bug)10:07
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jmazaredo_SEXY: did ui see it?10:07
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SEXYyah10:07
jmazaredo_hahaha10:07
SEXYno one told me10:07
ColonelKerneldooglus, gives a devfs error - I dont think im even using devfs, and device-mapper gives errors too10:07
jmazaredo_omg give me solar god helm10:07
jmazaredo_lol10:07
SEXYthey just said to delete something10:07
dooglusColonelKernel: 2.6.13?10:07
SEXYLOL10:07
fooboythis may be off topic10:08
SEXYIM no Ragna player10:08
Seveasjmazaredo_, SEXY, this is not a social chat channel, use #ubuntu-offtopic for that10:08
ColonelKerneldooglus, that is correct sir - 2.6.13.2 - latest stable from kernel.org10:08
fooboyis their a way to search for not inurl:ww.bal.com in google?10:08
SEXYhes helping me10:08
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dooglusColonelKernel: devfs has been removed from the kernel in 2.6.13.  (see http://lwn.net/Articles/149479/ for confirmation)10:08
Seveasah 2.6.13 - that's not supported yet afaik10:08
SEXYit just so happens we are not that serious10:08
StyXmannot-too-related question: any mp3/ogg organizer? juk keeps crashin on me...10:09
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apsync'ls' is showing old files, how can I refresh the terminal ?10:09
SeveasSEXY, then talk in private chats instead of disturbing the channel10:09
Seveasapsync, ls is always showing the current status10:09
ColonelKerneldooglus, I was under the impression that ubuntu uses UDEV10:09
apsynchmm Ok10:09
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dooglusapsync: are you running 'ls' on a remotely mounted disk?10:09
SeveasColonelKernel, ubuntu uses udev indeed10:09
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ColonelKernelthen why would the kernel be lookign for devfs?10:10
Seveashow should I know, it's your kernel...10:10
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scenestarugh10:11
apsyncwhat is delete command from terminal?10:11
scenestaris there any way to get rid of the main synaptic screen?10:11
apokryphosapsync: rm10:11
StyXmanapsync: rm10:11
apsyncthank you10:11
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ColonelKerneldooglus, considering its pretty much the same kernel config as the breezy 2.6.12 that works just fine - why would the vanilla kernel be looking to use devfs?10:11
Seveasscenestar, aptitude purge synaptic10:11
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apokryphosubotu: tell apsync about commands10:11
StyXmanIMtooSEXY: I honestly doubt so :)10:12
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Seveas/boot/config-2.6.12-8-686:CONFIG_DEVFS_FS=y10:12
Seveas <-- hoary and breezy kernels do compile devfs in...10:12
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dooglusColonelKernel: I don't know, but I would guess some part of ubuntu references devfs by mistake.10:13
ColonelKernellovely10:13
nationhi! how to get mp3 codec to ubuntu?10:13
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apokryphosubotu: tell nation about mp310:13
ColonelKerneldooglus, do you know where I can find this stuff in the .config?10:13
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dooglusfooboy: searching for "-inurl blah.com" will only find pages which don't have "blah.com" in their URL.10:13
fooboychanks10:13
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dooglusColonelKernel: 'this stuff'?10:13
fooboydooglus, thankyou10:13
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ColonelKerneldooglus, apologies - where can I locate UDEV in the kernel config?10:14
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dooglusColonelKernel: no.  isn't it obvious though?10:14
dreameenwhere can i put a script that i want to start with ubuntu at boot time???10:14
ColonelKerneldooglus, no it isnt - I actually did a text search through the .config for udev and devfs and got nothing on either one10:15
Seveasdreameen, boot or login?10:15
SeveasColonelKernel, devfs has been removed from .13 while ubuntu .12 still compiles it in10:15
dreameenboot time10:15
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dooglusColonelKernel: you're ahead of me.  I've never built a kernel in ubuntu before.  If I overtake you, I'll be sure to let you know.  :)10:15
Seveasand udev isn't just a kernel thing10:15
dreameeni need turn on process accounting at boot time10:15
ColonelKerneldooglus, alrighty, thanks anyhow10:15
war-totemcan somemone tell me what i need to do to send an email through mutt?10:15
Seveasno offence, but it sounds like you would be better off sticking to ubuntu kernels10:16
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Seveasdreameen, /etc/init.d and link it from /etc/rcS.d10:16
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odatubuntudoes anyone know how to login to webmin for the first time?10:16
tyloAnyone here have an AIW video card?10:16
war-totemi get to a screen where i type it up, but i dont see any options to send10:16
vrlnanyone on breezy & noticed that there's a little aesthetic bug/error during boot?10:16
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Seveasodatubuntu, did you search the wiki?10:16
vrlnhttp://tolu.edu.hel.fi/~vrln/script.png10:16
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vrln--> one of the [ok]  texts isn't positioned correctly10:17
vrlnwould this be worth reporting?10:17
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odatubuntuseveas: i don't know what wiki your talking about and if you know why won't you just fucking tell me10:17
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dreameenlemme try that10:17
Raysielhola, can somebody please help me? kppp segfaults when i try to connect. i tried upgrading but there's no way to make it run correctly10:17
Seveasodatubuntu, last time, watch your language10:17
Seveaswiki is wiki.ubuntu.com10:17
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Seveasand I don't tell you directly because i don't want to spell it out all the time. That's why it's on the wiki.10:18
tristanmikeodatubuntu, why the poor att.?10:18
tristanmikeodatubuntu, having a *real* bad day I hope10:18
bur[n] erlol10:18
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bur[n] erSeveas: I still think you're great ;)10:19
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dooglusis there a GNOME kernel config utility?  'make xconfig' seems to want me to have QT libraries.  yuck!10:19
bur[n] erdooglus: make menuconfig is curses based10:19
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lsuactiafnerdooglus : make menuconfig10:19
annexIs there an easy way to install an older version of the nVidia driver?  Synaptic only lists one possible version?  Or will I have to go through the steps of manually installing it?10:19
Raysielor can somebody suggest me a graphical alternative to kppp?10:19
odatubuntuwell just like always a couple of suggestion that don't work10:20
odatubuntutypical linux10:20
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bur[n] er:)10:20
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ompauldevfs - ahhh all hail reg Kroah10:20
doogluslsuactiafner: I found out there are lots of ubuntu-specific kernel patches.  why were you telling me ubuntu uses a vanilla kernel?10:20
tristanmikeouch10:20
ompaulgreg that is10:20
alec_hi everyone10:20
lsuactiafnerdooglus : then make bzImage modules modules_install ; your kerel should be in arch/x86_64/boot/bzImage where x86_64 refers to your cpu type10:20
RaysielSeveas: he deserved it10:20
alec_anybody know how to use wine to install LimeWire????10:21
lsuactiafnerdooglus : because it should. actually i didnt know there was patches, i make+run my own kernel.10:21
doogluslsuactiafner: with ubuntu?10:21
lsuactiafneri think ppl who produce+release the kernel would include patches if they were any good to start with.10:21
mike23greetings10:21
bur[n] eralec_: just use gtk-gnutella10:21
lsuactiafneron any linux distribution i compile my own kernels.10:21
Seveaslsuactiafner, that is soooo 2003 ;)10:22
scenestarhmmm10:22
lsuactiafnerold skool10:22
vrlnwhat package contains the scripts in /etc/rcS.d10:22
vrln?10:22
vrlnI'd need to file a bug about one of the scripts10:22
vrlnerr10:22
vrlnsorry, I meant the ones in /etc/init.d of course10:22
Seveasvrln, every package can contain a script there10:22
Seveaswhich one specifically?10:22
doogluslsuactiafner: ColonelKernel was just saying that vanilla 2.6.13 kernel won't even run with ubuntu10:22
scenestarSeveas: google it10:22
vrlnSeveas: http://tolu.edu.hel.fi/~vrln/script.png <- the one that mounts local filesystems10:23
scenestarand the vanilla kernel sucks10:23
scenestarif you want that10:23
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lsuactiafnerroot@infant-finite ~10:23
scenestaryou should consider using debian10:23
lsuactiafner4926 uname -a10:23
lsuactiafnerLinux infant-finite 2.6.13 #1 Wed Aug 31 22:04:16 SAST 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux10:23
vrlnit echoes the [ok]  part in a wrong place geometry wise10:23
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vrlnSeveas: not a huge deal, but a little aesthetic problem :)10:23
lsuactiafnerobviously it works on ubuntu10:23
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mike23downloaded kde edutainment package and the tab shows up under the gnome foot on my tool bar but after 10 or fifteen minutes it disappears. the programs are still executable from the command line?10:23
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Seveaslsuactiafner, as i thought already10:23
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tyloAnyone here have an All-In-Wonder video card?10:23
lsuactiafnerand if a patch debian applies to a kernel is so great ect, it would be included in the vanilla kernel.10:23
vrlnSenjin: it's one of the scripts that are always run by default, "out of the box"10:23
mike23has anyone else seen this odd behavior?10:23
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Seveashe SO gave the impression of being clueless :)10:24
Seveasvrln, package is initscripts10:24
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alec_bur[n] er: wheres that at10:24
vrlnSeveas: thank you10:24
scenestarhmmm10:24
bur[n] er!tell alec_ about repositories10:24
scenestari got a silly question10:24
bur[n] er!tell alec_ about synaptic10:24
scenestarhow can i fully stop using windows?10:24
alec_bur[n] er: what are you doing10:24
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Seveasscenestar, mkfs.ext3 /dev/your_windows_partition10:25
alec_bur[n] er: cool10:25
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mike23screenstar:use ubuntu10:25
alec_bur[n] er: i made those other ones10:25
ompaulscenestar, return your windows disk to its maker, use ubuntu, learn stuff10:25
alec_bur[n] er: that you had to add10:25
dooglusscenestar: I went to a hypnotist.10:25
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scenestarmeh10:26
dooglusscenestar: now, whenever I boot into Windows I get violently ill.10:26
Seveasand when I snap my fingers you will all wake up10:26
dooglusscenestar: I recommend it.10:26
Seveas*snap*10:26
scenestardooglus: i allways force myself to us elinux10:26
scenestari start to love it10:26
Seveasgood10:26
Seveasthat's phase 1 :)10:26
scenestarthan i go back to school and they force me to sue doze10:26
scenestaruse*10:26
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lsuactiafnerone thing that still pissed me off about linux is not being able to write to NTFS.10:26
Seveaslsuactiafner, captive is a possibility10:27
scenestaryeah10:27
lsuactiafnerneed to keep hogging my flatmate10:27
scenestarwell10:27
lsuactiafner's pc to write to my mobile disk10:27
Seveasotherwise: blame MS for not releasing the specs10:27
scenestarthe best reason for me to use windows10:27
calaretuhi all10:27
scenestaris that is pisses off my teachers10:27
lundnerlsuactiafner, but thats not linux's fault ;-)10:27
lsuactiafnerstill, someone should be able to crack ntfs / reverse engineer it10:27
somedude_I wanna buy more mem for my ubuntu sys.. i have 512 PC2700 and want 512 more.. the thing is pc3200 is cheaper so could i buy that for my Abit NF7 V2.0 mobo??10:28
Seveasthat would be illegal and not really tolerated in kernel land...10:28
lundnerlsuactiafner, but one could use ext3 as well or not?!10:28
scenestaryes it should10:28
scenestarMSFT abuses open standards10:28
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lsuactiafnerlundner : needs to be compatible with windows pcs..10:28
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Seveassomedude_, mixing PC2700 and PC3200 may prove to be 'interesting'10:28
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scenestaranwyasy10:29
calareturunning a liveCD first time... for test... and... i don't now how to view what is in my comp. (hard drive)...10:29
somedude_Seveas, how? :/10:29
lundnerlsuactiafner, there is a driver for windows that works without any bugs ;-)10:29
scenestarcalaretu: you have to get used to it10:29
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scenestartheres no c:\10:29
bur[n] erthe pc3200 just runs slower10:29
Seveasbur[n] er, ah10:29
kemikmixing diff. RAM isnt adviced (at least not if you gonna run dual channel mode)10:29
calaretu?10:29
alec_can anybody help me install limewire with wine10:30
lundnerlsuactiafner, http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html10:30
scenestardammit10:30
scenestarwhy wont wine utils run10:30
pluggocaptive is pretty easy to get going... unmask, emerge captive10:30
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pluggoerr... forgot this isn't the gentoo channel :)10:30
kemikemerge? gentoo10:30
kemik:P10:30
Seveaslol :)10:30
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kati???10:30
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pluggomisfire! :)10:30
somedude_kemik, hmm.. okey.. that sounded like u knew something hehe.. so ill take your word on it! :) hehe10:30
alec_can anybody help me with limewire10:30
Seveasalec_: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.10:31
ompaul!tell calaretu about ntfs10:31
ompaulcalaretu, well you can have a look at the info that ubotu just sent you10:31
katiseid ihr alles irgendwie so computerfreaks?10:31
tristanmikeyuk limewire10:31
alec_Seveas: what is the mailing list10:31
pluggoalec__, just install wine and run the installer with wine10:31
kemiksomedude_:  well, it works for some ppl, and not for some.. its a bit of a gamble.. but if you're not dualchanneling (ie nForce 2 or better then there shouldnt be a problem)10:31
Seveaskati, ein bisschen, aber wir sprechen english hier10:31
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katiOh, sorry10:31
Seveasfuer deutsch -> #ubuntu-de10:31
ompaul!nl10:31
ubotuOp #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.10:31
scenestarhahaha10:31
alec_plugoo: hey thanks10:31
scenestaris dat zo?10:31
ompaul!de10:31
ubotude is probably #ubuntu-de bitte.10:31
scenestarlekker10:31
Seveasompaul, wrong language ;)10:31
lundnerSeveas, looool10:31
alec_plugoo: let me try10:31
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lsuactiafner!tell lsuactiafner about ntfs10:31
ompaulSeveas, well you answered and there were no caps :)10:32
katiAre you only talking about computer?10:32
somedude_kemik, i have a nforce2 mobo = dualchannel?10:32
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Krnekihay10:32
kati?????????10:32
Seveaskati, well, this is a support channel for ubuntu linux, so yeah :)10:32
Krnekiwhich package is for g++10:32
kemiksomedude_:  nforce2 are capable of dualchannel (however you're not required to use the ability... but it's a nice speedup)10:32
SeveasKrneki, g++ :)10:32
Seveas(or better: build-essential)10:32
Krnekiyes if i use apt-get10:32
alec_plugoo: i can't find the installer10:32
kemiksomedude_:  i recommend you to read at arstechnica/anandtech/tomshardware or some website like that10:33
kemikfor more insight ;)10:33
SeveasKrneki, g++ is in the package named g++10:33
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pluggoalec__: You have to download the installer from wherever you get limewire for windows, it's the same installer10:33
ompaulSeveas, sorry just read what you said ... I need my eye to brain channel fixed :)10:33
Seveasbut you'd better install build-essential since you might need more than just g++10:33
somedude_kemik, hehe.. ok ok.. im not sure if im using dualchannel.. Maybe u know a easy way of finding out? :P10:33
alec_plugoo: OOo i downloaded the linux version10:33
kemiksomedude_:  consult your motherboard manual ;)10:33
alec_plugoo; the rpm package10:33
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calaretuhave ubuntu a kde interface... gnome seems to be dificult for me...10:33
ompaulwheres the mirror10:33
calaretulook for a live cd10:34
somedude_kemik, hehehe.. ok! >;)10:34
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lundnercalaretu, it's called kubuntu ;-)10:34
Seveascalaretu, if you want just kde, give kubuntu a try (ubuntu with KDE only, no gnome)10:34
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pluggoalec__: are you trying to use limewire or openoffice?10:34
lsuactiafner...install-static-1.1.5.tar.bz2:  ETA: 130:43    0.01/  2.87 MB  383.37 B/s10:34
lsuactiafnerbleh10:34
somedude_kemik, ill hang out here while reading.. just in case - lol10:34
calaretuaha... thank's... and is a liveCD ?10:35
Seveascalaretu, it has a live cd too10:35
lsuactiafnergood thing gentoo mirrors almost any conceivable source package10:35
ompaulcalaretu, yes, you can get it with the liveCD10:35
calaretuwant to test it first... to know what is good for me...10:35
alec_plugoo: limewire10:35
ompaullsuactiafner, out the door turn left third door on the right thats #gentoo this is #ubuntu10:36
calaretuok, thank's!10:36
kemiksomedude_:  http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/nforce2-1vs2channels/ try that link10:36
alec_plugoo: how do i open the installer10:36
pluggoalec__: What are you doing with OOo then? You need wine first, then the limewire windows installer10:36
alec_plugoo: i have wine10:36
somedude_kemik, ok - thanks!! :)10:36
alec_plugoo: and the LimeWire win installer10:36
ompaullsuactiafner, and you are sure there is no .deb of this package?10:37
lsuactiafnerompaul : just saying, nice to have source mirrors where i can ls *captive*10:37
lsuactiafnerto get source10:37
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alec_plugoo: what's is the command to run it10:37
lsuactiafnerompaul : apt-cache didnt say anything10:37
pluggoalec__: OK, open a shell and do "wine installer.exe"10:37
alec_plugoo: terminal or root10:37
ompaullsuactiafner, have you installed universe and multiverse?10:37
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ompaullsuactiafner, for apt?10:38
lsuactiafnerompaul : yes10:38
ompaullsuactiafner, hoary-extras (or breezy if that is what you are running)10:38
Seveasis captive in -extras now?10:38
alec_plugoo: it syas it cannot find the installer10:39
lsuactiafnerdeb http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/ubuntu-backports/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted10:39
alec_plugoo: does it need to be in the home directory10:39
pluggoalec__ not sure how permissions are in ubuntu, user should work though10:39
ompaulSeveas, no I am asking lsuactiafner if that has been checked10:39
pluggoalec__: What does, Wine?10:39
alec_plugoo: wait what?10:39
alec_plugoo: no limewiere10:39
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ColonelKernelok so it appears the problem is that the ubuntu kernels use the devfs option even w/o load automatically at boot, and the vanilla kernel 2.6.12.2 doesnt have this option, so basically ubuntu cant use vanilla kernels. Lovely.10:40
alec_plugoo: i open the terminal, and type10:40
nlitementlive cd again :D10:40
alec_plugoo: wine install.exe10:40
ColonelKernelwhat a shame, the distro is so nice.10:40
ompaulSeveas, I just checked - guess I did things wrong way around that time10:40
SeveasColonelKernel, once again, BS10:40
dooglusscenestar: 22:04 <@Seveas> dooglus, linux-patch-ubuntu is the package you are looking for10:40
alec_plugoo: it says file cannot be found10:40
Seveasubuntu runs even 2.6.13 just fine, ask lsuactiafner10:40
alec_plugoo: code error #110:40
ColonelKernelSeveas, sorry, but thems the breaks.10:40
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dooglusSeveas: is that really the name of the package?10:40
nlitementhow can i open a new server connection in xchat?10:40
pluggoalec__: And the file is called install.exe in the current directory?10:40
lsuactiafnerdooglus : it does run fine10:40
SeveasColonelKernel, correct your config and fix your other errors, this is not ubuntus fault.10:40
doogluslsuactiafner: tell ColonelKernel10:41
alec_plugoo: let me check10:41
nlitementhey? :(10:41
Hoxzeryou're beautiful you're beautiful its truth10:41
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alec_plugoo: sorry if i'm wasting your time10:41
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alec_plugoo: i'm sort of new10:41
ColonelKernelSeveas, kernel config is fine, its the same config ubuntu uses. Vanilla doesnt have the same options as the ubuntu.10:41
Seveasdooglus, linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.10 (hoary) or ..12 (breezy)10:41
lsuactiafnerColonelKernel : Linux infant-finite 2.6.13 #1 Wed Aug 31 22:04:16 SAST 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux10:41
bur[n] eralec_: check out gift or gtk-gnutella10:41
SeveasColonelKernel, thats exactly you problem10:41
bur[n] erlimewire is just a gnutella client... (and is crap)10:41
ColonelKernellsuactiafner, thats nice.10:41
somedude_kemik, fyi - "t needs two smaller memory modules instead of one big module" thats dual channel :)10:41
blueyedCan I see how the kernel I use was configured? The value of CONFIG_BRIDGE for example..10:41
dooglusSeveas: duh, of course.  sorry.10:41
ColonelKernelSeveas, yes, since I created the kernel source.10:41
Seveasdon't use a config made for ubuntu on a vanilla kernel10:41
ColonelKernelI didnt use the straight config.10:42
Seveasrolling your own kernel means rolling your own config10:42
lsuactiafnerblueyed : grep CONFIG_BRIDGE /usr/src/linux/.config10:42
dooglusSeveas: one last thing...  if I install "linux-src", does that already have the patches applied?10:42
dinimo making your own kernel is better10:42
lundnerwhat is the adress of the breezy backports and extras?10:42
Seveaslinux-source-2.6.* includes the patches10:42
alec_plugoo: no it says wine cant open it10:42
lsuactiafnerdin : agreed.10:42
apokryphoslundner: think about what you're saying there10:42
kemiksomedude_:  mmh i know.. but you had 1 512mb and was gonna buy anohter 512, right ?10:42
apokryphoslundner: breezy *backports*?10:42
alec_bur[n] er: gift?10:42
lsuactiafnermore effort, but keeps things smoother for me10:42
dinheh, you guys wanna see the webcam in my office ? :p10:43
alec_bur[n] er: gtk-gnutella10:43
alec_bur[n] er:?10:43
apokryphoslundner: some breezy-extras at seveas.ubuntulinux.nl though10:43
somedude_kemik, no :( i hade 2 x 25610:43
somedude_*had10:43
dinmplayer http://24.144.40.2:123410:43
lsuactiafnerdin : what program you use to run the webcam?10:43
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kemiksomedude_:  if youre adding a 512 to that you can still do dualchannel10:43
alec_bur[n] er: can you explain to me10:43
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ompauldin, your connection is about to fall through the floor I think :)10:43
dini use the pwc driver to run it, vlc to stream it out10:43
dinompaul: nah, i have 10mb up10:44
somedude_kemik, ooh??.. are u sure?.. i have to admit i didnt read all of it..10:44
alec_plugoo: you there?10:44
nlitementwhat proggies do i need in ubuntu to get .mov files worx? :(10:44
ompauldin in that case :)10:44
dinheh10:44
Seveasnlitement, mplayer or totem-xine10:44
Seveasand w32codecs10:44
pluggoalec__: Not sure what your problem is... I'd try downloading another windows program and seeing if you can make that work in wine first10:44
pluggoalec__: Try something simple, like PuTTY10:44
kemiksomedude_:  if you have 3memory slots and your mobo supports it, yes10:44
alec_plugoo: i dont think wine works10:45
alec_plugoo: what's putty10:45
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ompauldin you readin the logs or this?10:45
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kemiksomedude_:  "there are two most optimal cases: equal memory modules inserted into the first and second slots, or three modules, with the first one being equal to the sum of the other two modules. "10:45
alec_plugoo: can you talk to me in a seperate window please?10:45
lsuactiafnerdin : pwc drivers?10:45
dooglusSeveas: thanks a lot.10:45
dini can see when people connect if that's what you mean10:45
fooboyis thier anyway to use ipfilters on ubuntu10:45
dinlsuactiafner: one sec10:45
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dinlsuactiafner: http://www.saillard.org/pwc/10:46
michihi folks, why does ubuntus module-assistant not contain the ndiswrapper kernel module? like its on debian?10:46
ColonelKernelnope, no devfs options in 2.6.13 - I dont know how you got that working with ubuntu lsuactiafner, but it aint gonna happen here.10:46
somedude_kemik, ahaaaa.. schweeet10:46
alec_plugoo: please help, no one will help10:46
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dinhah my boss walked in :p10:46
somedude_kemik, so that means ive goto put my (soon to be) 512 in the first slot and the rest on the others right?10:46
Pshivers anyone know wich desklets that they us as a menu on this screen http://vidalinux.com/gallery/albums/album01/screen_vlos_02.sized.png10:46
Seveasdin, I saq that10:46
Seveasbusted! :)10:46
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kemiksomedude_:  yea10:46
dinlol10:46
lsuactiafnerwhere do i put in hoary-extras in my sources for captive?10:47
kemiksomedude_:  but i would consult the motherboard manual to make sure10:47
Seveassaw*10:47
din:)10:47
somedude_kemik, ok - im with you! :) Now ive goto make sure it supports dual channel10:47
lsuactiafnerthanks din10:47
dinlsuactiafner: np10:47
somedude_ok brb :)10:47
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nogfpeople may i ask : can i use the tar comand to view a .tgz with out extracting it to a folder?10:47
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dinone sec, shutting my door10:47
nogf(im out of disk space10:47
nlitementhmm10:47
nlitementwhere can i get the mov plugin from?10:47
ColonelKernellsuactiafner, how did you get 2.6.13 to work with ubuntu? Is there a howto anywhere?10:47
somedude_wtf was that stream?.. only grean10:47
michinogf,  man tar10:47
dooglusnogf: you can use tar to list its contents without extracting it, but not to view the files.10:48
Seveasnogf, tar ztf file.tgz10:48
lsuactiafnernogf : i use mc to open it and browse it (mc - midnight commander)10:48
dooglusthat will just like the contents10:48
blueyedlsuactiafner: thanks. But it seems I have no "/usr/src/linux/.config" (also after apt-get install linux-source-..) - it's the default hoary kernel that's installed.10:48
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nogfthanks guys :)10:48
GhostFreemanok, I can't get sound in Totem-xine10:48
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michiwhy does ubuntus module-assiatnt not contain ndiswrapper?10:48
lsuactiafnerColonelKernel : just make menuconfig your own .config file. should work.10:48
doogluslsuactiafner: you have to 'configure' the sources10:48
michior am i blind?10:48
nogfim in a terminall only so that is helpfull10:48
ompauldin what do you use for that output?10:48
ColonelKernelsigh10:48
durtif i set my VertRefresh too high, will it kill my laptop?10:48
Seveasmichi, because it comes preinstalled10:48
ompauldin what do you use for capturing that output?10:48
dooglus"make menuconfig"10:48
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ColonelKerneloh well. Thanks anyhow.10:49
alfonsohi10:49
dinompaul: vlc streams it10:49
Kejk_PLdurt: probably no10:49
ompaulahh10:49
Kejk_PLdurt: i'm pretty sure that no10:49
ColonelKernelmaybe the release on oct 13 will give me better results.10:49
durtok10:49
alfonsojust a doubt... how could I add and additional session to GDM? i want to be able to run enlightenment from GDM Menu... I'm using Ubuntu 5.1010:49
lsuactiafnerblueyed : not sure if this will work : cat /proc/config.gz > config.gz ; gunzip config.gz10:49
dinhah, you guys see yourself typing10:49
Seveas:)10:49
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nlitementHow can i open a new server window in xchat? :(10:49
fooboydoes ubuntu use packet filters10:50
lsuactiafnerdurt : might hurt it10:50
lsuactiafnerin theory10:50
Seveasalfonso, the enlightenment packages should install such a session file10:50
michiSeveas,  ok10:50
tristanmike"X-Chat-New-ServerWindow"10:50
Seveasnlitement, /newserver server.name.here10:50
michii never used ubuntu before10:50
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Kejk_PLlsuactiafner: and on very old CRT monitors10:50
ompaulnlitement, x-chat serverlist10:50
apokryphosSeveas: I don't think they do actually10:50
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nlitementyay! \o/10:50
sambagirlwhat is gentoo?10:50
durtwill the screen explode?10:50
apokryphosSeveas: tutorials on installing E mention that you should make the respective enlightenment.desktop10:50
Seveassambagirl, gentoo is a file manager10:50
alfonsommm Seveas where is that file supposed to be installed? I think it shoudl be located in /etc/gdm/Sessions... but there's no directory called like this10:50
ompaulmichi, out the door turn left third door on the right thats #gentoo this is #ubuntu :-)10:50
sambagirloh10:50
dingentoo is a distro too10:51
dooglusnlitement: use "connect in new tab" in the server list10:51
apokryphossambagirl: an X file manager, that is.10:51
Seveas(there also exists a linux distribution with that name)10:51
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sambagirlSeveas, you just konw everything.10:51
dini think the file manager came first10:51
nlitementty for the info!10:51
Seveassambagirl, not nearly...10:51
ompaulit is also a type of penguin10:51
apokryphosdin: it did10:51
sambagirlbob2 knows the other stuff then10:51
blueyedlsuactiafner: /proc/config.gz: No such file or directory :(10:51
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dini use both ubuntu and gentoo10:51
Seveasbob2, knows much more than me :)10:51
nlitementWhere does the livecd put all the stuff i save???10:52
michiblueyed,  so your kernel does not keep its config in /proc10:52
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tristanmikei wish i know 1/32 as either of you10:52
ompaulbob2, knows more than almost anyone ever anytime and then some10:52
lsuactiafneras i heard, the guy that started gentoo is working for microsoft now10:52
ompaullsuactiafner, you heard correctly10:52
apokryphosompaul: if we're having competitions, I think Zimmerman beats him :P10:53
alec_my wine program doesn't work, what do i do????10:53
dooglusSeveas: the enlightenment package doesn't install a session file - i raised a bug about it just a few days ago: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/238110:53
blueyedmichi: any chance to get it? it's the hoary kernel (2.6.10)10:53
Seveasnlitement, in memory10:53
Seveasso you lose it when rebooting10:53
tristanmikew.e.a.k.10:53
ompaulapokryphos, that would be Phil?10:53
Seveasdooglus, the e17 packages do ;)10:53
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lsuactiafneri wouldnt mind to work for them. nice benefits, but heard some employees prefer google.10:53
dooglusSeveas: the "enlightenment" package doesn't10:53
dooglus(in universe)10:53
apokryphosompaul: nope, mdz.10:53
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dooglusSeveas: are the e17 packages in universe?10:54
tristanmikeat google, you get one of those motion propelled scooter things, I forget what they're called10:54
michiblueyed, maybe ubuntu install stuff like the config of the kernel images somewhere in /usr/share or so, iam totaly new to ubuntu so i dnt know10:54
SeveasMatt Zimmermann aka Ubuntu CTO10:54
apokryphosubotu: tell dooglus about e10:54
Seveasdooglus, no, 3rd party repo10:54
alec_wine doesn't work anybody know why????????10:54
Seveasalec_, because wine sucks10:54
nlitementseveas: RAM?10:54
ompaulapokryphos, yeah, read what I said again, :) there was room :)10:54
tristanmikelol10:54
Seveasfind a linux alternative for what you want to run10:54
nlitementseveas: what if i dl 100gigs of l33t pr0n?10:54
alec_Seveas: then what do i use10:54
apokryphosompaul: eheh?10:54
Seveasnlitement, you'll get an out-of-memory error10:54
alec_Seveas: Limewire doesnt work10:54
Seveasalec_, gtk-gnutella10:55
Seveasor mldonkey10:55
alec_Seveas: what is that?10:55
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Seveasor whatever...10:55
QMarioHow do I tell Ubuntu where to find Java Archives in order to use them for compilation?10:55
pussfellerwhats the thingge that sets the network up called10:55
Seveasthose are linux p2p programs10:55
ompaulapokryphos, I siad almost - that gave me room to have more people in there10:55
pussfellerfrom te cli10:55
apokryphosalec_: a GTK client that runs on the gnutella network10:55
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fooboycan i run ipfilters on ubuntu10:55
alec_Seveas: it's a p2p for Linux?!?!10:55
tyloAnyone here have an All-In-Wonder video card?10:55
Seveasyes10:55
Seveas^-- to alec_10:55
somedude_kemik, this is what i got.. FYI.. my mobo (Abit NF7 v2.0) only supports 2 DDR400 and only then "DUAL CHANNEL".. problem solved.. i goto by 2 mems and throw away my others.. hehe.. Thanks for your help VERY much appriciated!!!10:55
dooglusalec_: no.  it can't be done.  p2p only runs on windows xp.  linux is for boring stuff like servers only.10:56
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tristanmikelol10:56
gasphullo10:56
fredforfaenI want to get my hdc disk on my desktop , as a icon , how do i do that?10:56
Seveasgrin@dooglus10:56
Seveasfredforfaen, ln -s /mountpoint/pf/dev/hdc ~/Desktop10:56
tristanmikeand the common man should stay away from Linux is for the programming elite10:56
bur[n] eralec_: amule, gift, gtk-gnutella, etc.10:56
dooglusbittorrent works on linux, but only for downloading more linux isos.10:56
Seveasfredforfaen, ln -s /mountpoint/pf/dev/hdc ~/Desktop/hdc (this works better)10:57
fooboycan i use Ipfilters on ubuntu10:57
dooglusit has a built-in "pink filter" which detects porn.10:57
fredforfaencool Sevas10:57
alec_bur[n] er: so those are p2p's10:57
apokryphosompaul: cheater 8)10:57
fredforfaenthanx a lot10:57
dooglusalec_: see also azureus10:57
Seveasalec_, how hard is it to understand the word 'yes'?10:57
ColonelKernelmake oldconfig uses the options from your old config and asks you about the differences, right?10:57
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QMarioHello ompaul and Seveas!!! :)10:57
vrlndooglus: if you'd like to see e17 packages in backports, go vote for it at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64759&page=2 :)10:58
dooglusvrln: I wouldn't.10:58
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lsuactiafnerColonelKernel : its ugly.10:58
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alec_dooglus says only for server stuff10:58
dooglusvrln: I don't use backports.10:58
kemiksomedude_:  np.... but dont expect too dramatic speedups.. (i hope you read the conclusion from my link at least ;) )10:58
dooglusalec_: I was being silly.10:58
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Seveas...as usual10:58
alec_i see10:58
QMarioI haven't seen you in a long time.10:58
Seveas:p10:58
vrlndooglus: hm... is universe actively maintained these days?10:58
dooglusalec_: amule, bittorrent, azureus, gift and many more are p2p for linux, yes.10:58
bamamai have a problem with 'dpkg'10:58
Seveashi QMario10:58
ompaulapokryphos, na just been caught once or four times :)10:58
alec_i guess thats what i get for being new10:59
vrlnlast time I tried ubuntu, it wasn't - it was just a snapshot of debians contrib10:59
alec_hey thanks10:59
ompaulQMario, evening10:59
dsasvrln: yes, some of it10:59
dooglusvrln: I don't know.  They sure are slow to respond to any bug reports.10:59
ColonelKernellsuactiafner, ok, so I should just give up because the vanilla kernel doesnt work with ubuntu without some serious patching. THanks.10:59
vrlndooglus: (just switched back 2 days ago)10:59
Seveasvrln, universe is very actively maintained10:59
apokryphosvrln: we have the dear MOTU10:59
vrlnSeveas: does this mean I could try to request them to package E17 and update the packages every now and then?10:59
Seveasvrln, if you're interested: wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU (and the pages it links to) have more info10:59
vrln:-)10:59
dsasvrln: the guys in #ubuntu-motu keep the universe going10:59
vrlninteresting11:00
bamamawhen I type dpkg -i sd.deb it says: error in file /var/lib/dpkg/avaible - field name 'onal' must be followed by colon. What is that?11:00
dooglusSeveas: I waited months for a simple re-upload of a universe package because someone uploaded an 'empty' version.11:00
vrlnnice system, things have surely changed since the first release11:00
Seveasvrln, if e17 wouldnt suck so hard they might ;)11:00
vrlnSeveas: ehm...11:00
vrlnSeveas: I've been using it as the only WM for a year already11:00
bamamawhen I type dpkg -i sd.deb it says: error in file /var/lib/dpkg/avaible - field name 'onal' must be followed by colon. What is that?11:00
alec_dooglus: which one is the best11:00
vrlnit's quite usable actually, depends on how you define usable11:00
jdermerwuts a good alternative to firefox11:00
Seveasvrln, I just expressed my opinion :)11:00
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alec_dooglus: sorry for bothering11:00
michiis the /etc/sudoers file replaced if sudo is updated? cause during setup i have never been asked for the root pw? would be bad to not have a pw set or dont know it if sudo would stop working11:00
bamamaanybody?11:01
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Seveasmichi, no, /etc/sudoers is not altered during updates11:01
nlitementIs there a trash bin in the full ubuntu version??11:01
dooglusalec_: I like bittorrent, but it's command line.  azureus is a graphic bittorrent client, but it's java.11:01
michiok11:01
michi:P11:01
fredforfaenSeveas ok now its a folder on my desktop , thats all good , but i want it to be a hd icon for it , any ideas?11:01
dsasnlitement: yes, it's in the bottom left corner11:01
holycow nlitement full ubuntu? no such thing, but yes there is a trash b in11:01
Seveasbamama, it means your 'available' database is screwed up11:01
dsasnlitement: sorry bottom right11:01
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Seveasbamama, sudo dselect update may help11:01
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dooglusalec_: amule connects to the edonkey network - there's a lot of stuff there, but it takes ages for your downloads to get going fast.11:01
nlitementdsas: i have live, no bin :S11:01
nlitementah11:01
alec_dooglus: hmmm i always get into trouble with java11:01
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nlitementdidn notice dsas :D11:01
tristanmikeSeveas, since I have never used it, and I do hear good things about it, why about e17 don't you like so I can weigh that against the good?11:02
dalamarmy trashbin is never full! or so breezy likes to think ;)11:02
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alec_dooglus: i would like a graphic one11:02
jdermeranyonW ?11:02
jdodson\q11:02
alec_dooglus: so bittorrent is good11:02
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dooglusalec_: bittorrent runs in a terminal.11:02
alec_dooglus: when i want to download something i have to type the exact file name11:02
Seveastristanmike, I couldn't get used to the way it works/doesn't work in the few days I tried it11:02
dooglusalec_: try amule11:02
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Seveasso don't take my opinion as too valuable :)11:02
alec_dooglus: i tried to load it11:03
tristanmikelol, ok11:03
tristanmikethanx11:03
alec_dooglus: but i had to open some file11:03
dooglusalec_: nicotine is good for music, too11:03
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alec_dooglus: what about programs11:03
apokryphostristanmike: it has a few good things, a few aesthetically pleasing things; it's worth trying out for the "cool" shock. It's just simply not complete enough to be too efficient11:03
apokryphos(it is only a WM, too, of course)11:03
dooglusI use a wicked cool app to get all my programs.  it's called "apt-get".  don't tell anyone though or all the lamers will start using it.11:04
lsuactiafnerblackbox is the way to go..11:04
tristanmikeahh i see, i was intending when the stable version came out :)11:04
pussfellerhas amule gotten better, it was faily unusable last time i tried it11:04
dsasdooglus: does nicotine take notice of the soulseek privileges?11:04
jdermercan firefox be removed from ubuntu ?11:04
apokryphos!start a wm war11:04
ubotuapokryphos: I haven't a clue11:04
Seveasjdermer, sure it can11:04
apokryphosheh11:04
Seveas!start a desktop war11:04
ubotutwm is much better than gnome!11:04
apokryphosjdermer: make sure you re-install ubuntu-desktop if you try getting to breezy though11:04
dooglusdsas: the soulseek server takes notice of them, doesn't it?  (translation: I don't know!)11:04
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Kyralheheheh11:04
dalamarive got two bucks on gnome11:04
alec_dooglus: no i meant liek11:04
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alec_dooglus: adobe photoshop11:05
dsasdooglus: I'm pretty much clueless tbh11:05
pussfellerif you want music collections, emule is the way to go11:05
alec_emule11:05
Seveasjdermer, using equivs to install a fake firefox helps,.. you can then keep ubuntu-desktop installed :)11:05
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alec_what about nicotine11:05
jdermerapokryphos, i dont understand11:05
lsuactiafnerjdermer : yes, but why would you?11:05
pussfellernicotine is all individual files afaik11:05
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alec_pussfeller: i heard amule is slow11:06
apokryphosjdermer: ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage (/msg ubotu metapackage), and a dist-upgrade specifically uses it. So, when you plan on upgrading to breezy, just make sure you have it.11:06
lsuactiafnerits a mule..11:06
jdermerSeveas, wut equivs11:06
dooglusalec_: I don't think abobe photoshop works very well in ubuntu11:06
pussfelleryou have to pay soulseek to get real access11:06
jdermerwell removing firefox will remove ubuntu-desktop11:06
jdermerso how can i reinstall it11:06
lsuactiafnerwhere do i put hoary-extras for captive?11:06
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pussfellerany p2p netowrk is slow, depending on seeders and bandwidth11:06
alec_dooglus, why?11:06
Seveasjdermer, use equivs to install a dummy firefox package11:06
apokryphosjdermer: when you want to upgrade to breezy temporarily reinstall it; or, try Seveas' method if it works.11:06
pussfellerbut emule has hard to find stuff11:06
alec_dooglus: you mean not at all11:07
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Jwir3hey everyone.  I am using kubuntu, and I just did an apt-get upgrade to update pkgs.  Unfortunately, I can no longer login to Xwindows with a normal user.  Root can login fine if I login via vterminal and then do a startx, but any other user just crashes back to the login screen11:07
jdermerSeveas, such as...11:07
QMarioOmpaul, do you program in Java?11:07
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QMarioDoes anyone here use Netbeans for Java programming?11:07
pussfellerphotoshop works fine with wine11:07
alec_pussfeller, so which one do you recomend11:07
Jwir3QMario: I do sometimes11:07
dooglusalec_: you might be able to run it under 'wine' or some other windows work-alike.  but I've not tried.11:07
Seveasjdermer, equivs-control firefox-dummy11:07
Seveasedit firefox-dummy11:07
alec_dooglus, ok thanks11:08
Seveasequivs-build firefox-dummy11:08
pussfelleralec_: get mldonkey and just bite the bullet and figure out how to configure it11:08
Seveasand install the .deb11:08
martiipussfeller: did you try to play with lest say 200mb file in photoshop under wine?11:08
QMarioJwir3, how did you add .jar files in netbeans?11:08
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omnibonggreetings11:08
QMarioHello omnibong!!! :)11:08
alec_pussfeller: do you have that11:08
QMarioOr classpaths, Jwir3?11:08
dooglusI've recently installed the firefox 1.5 beta in my home directory.  Some apps still insist on running the old 1.0.6 version.  can I stop them, tell them where the new version is?11:08
Jwir3Qmario: ah, yeah, I didn't really get into that level of things.  I do most of my programming in C/C++.  I've never really worked with self-executing files11:08
Jwir3QMario: Sorry :(11:08
pussfelleralec_: no, i dont use p2p, I rip cds from the library11:08
Jwir3Qmario: I know how to do classpaths11:09
alec_pussfeller: haha nice11:09
QMarioJwir3, it's okay.11:09
omnibongI'm looking for some assistance getting ubuntu livecd to work on my system11:09
QMarioJwir3, how?11:09
alec_pussfeller: so mldonkey is hard11:09
QMario!Java11:09
ubotuit has been said that java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java11:09
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QMario!Botsnack11:09
ubotu:)11:09
alec_pussfeller: or worth it11:09
QMarioHello jessid!!! :)11:09
lsuactiafnerdooglus : nice -n -10 updatedb ; locate firefox | grep bin11:09
Jwir3QMario: Gimme a sec to open my NetBeans so I can remember11:09
SeveasQMario, java -cp /path/to/jar:$CLASSPATH11:09
ompaulQMario, no, it is my opinion that java is not a good thing(TM)11:09
pussfelleralec_: it can be a pain, but theres just more stuff, alot of asian stuff, anime, manga, etc11:09
doogluslsuactiafner: I don't think that would do it!11:09
lsuactiafnerdooglus : then rm old firefox binary and ln -s new_location old_location11:09
pussfellerit just takes awhile11:09
lsuactiafnerdooglus : but thats just an ugly hack11:09
Seveasor export CLASSPATH=/path/to/jar/:$CLASSPATH11:10
alec_pussfeller: i dont like cartoons :)11:10
pussfellerif you want fast, get a usenet account somewhere11:10
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pussfelleror allofmp3.com :)11:10
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alec_pussfeller: what's usenet11:10
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pussfellernewsgroups11:10
doogluslsuactiafner: isn't there a clean way?  I wouldn't mind keeping 1.0.6 for comparison purposes.  but I want to make the 1.5 the default.11:10
pussfelleryou have to pay to get decent access tho11:10
Seveascan we stop the illegal file sharing talk please?11:10
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pussfellerthe isp accounts suck11:10
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alec_o11:10
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alec_so allofmp3.com11:10
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omnibongwhen I use the live cd on my amd64 machine it doesn't completely load.  The only thing I get is a pointer on the desktop with no panel, etc.11:10
pussfellerillegal? what have we mentioned thats illegal11:11
doogluslsuactiafner: what I did was renamed /usr/bin/firefox to /usr/bin/firefox.dis - but now some apps can't run firefox at all.11:11
alec_it's not illegal11:11
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mrdeathanyone use framebuffer enabled with running xorg?11:11
alec_i share files with my friends11:11
Jwir3http://faculty.ed.umuc.edu/~arnoldyl/NetBeansTutorials/Predefined-Classes.html11:11
mkyb14can anyone tell me how to keep ubuntu from trying to install things from the cd rom and change it to the http only.11:11
Jwir3Qmario: I think this will help you11:11
alec_pussfeller do you have AIM11:11
pussfellerno11:11
Seveasalec_, even if it's not illegal, it's way off-topic in here11:11
omnibongis there some sort of incompatible hardware that will not work witn ubuntu?11:11
Jwir3QMario: Er, that website should help you out11:11
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Seveasuese #ubuntu-offtopic or a private chat11:11
alec_sorry but it was regarding wine11:11
alec_how do we private chat11:12
QMarioOkay. Thank you Seveas, ompaul, and Jwir3. :)11:12
apokryphosalec_: /query <username>11:12
alec_pussfeller private chat?11:12
alec_thank you11:12
test34I have a web page (on a CD) that says you have to rollback to netscape 4.0 (you have netscape 6..) is it possible to emulate it ?11:12
Jwir3Anyone know how to fix the X-Windows problem I was having where users other than root can't login?11:12
apokryphosalec_: though you can just use #ubuntu-offtopic as suggested11:12
Seveastest34, :|11:12
alec_i want to talk to this helpful guy though11:12
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omnibonganybody having a problem using the livecd?11:13
alec_pussfeller, private chat?11:13
ColonelKernellovely no tmpfs option in 2.6.1411:13
jessidhello! i want to ask something: how can I do to see other partitions in "places->partitionOne...."11:13
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test34Seveas, aint this stupid hehe11:13
omnibongI'm having some problems using the live cd11:13
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mkyb14can anyone tell me how to keep ubuntu from trying to install things from the cd rom and change it to the http only.11:13
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apokryphosmkyb14: edit /etc/apt/sources.list11:13
mkyb14thankyou11:13
apokryphosmkyb14: remove the CDROM source by commenting it out. Put a # at the first of the line11:14
Jowimkyb14: just put a # infront of the CD source.11:14
mkyb14i know, just didn't know what file it was again11:14
test34mkyb14,  or remove the cdrom repository from synaptic11:14
Hoxzeris there any way to search files from the directory and then easily open them?11:14
Hoxzer:E11:14
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gasphrm.....where di  all the admin tools go?11:15
Hoxzerits really hard to find a song from the directory that has like 50 files of same type11:15
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omnibongcan anybody help me with a livecd problem?11:15
rulebrakeri have a sound blaster 16 isa sound card and have to configure it every time i boot via alsaconf does anyone know why this is?11:15
test34Hoxzer, Places - Search for files11:15
apokryphosHoxzer: I always use a combination of find/grep/ls for things like that. Quite quick if you know how.11:15
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Seveasrulebraker, try: alsactl store11:16
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ompaulHoxzer, so if you are sitting in that directory on the command line you can >>ls | grep [keywordFromTitle] <<11:16
Seveasthat will store your settings :)11:16
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rulebrakerk i will thanks11:16
jessidhello. My question is this: have you seen that when you plug a flash usb memory I can access it with "places->memory"....where is the file to do that with other partitions????11:16
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robotgeekjessid: /etc/fstab11:16
rulebrakerok im gonna reboot see if it worked11:16
ompauldin had a look at that, will explore with a fresh head on me tomorrow, lots of documentation for vlc11:17
lsuactiafneri think he wants an icon for the 'other partitions'11:17
Seveasjessid, it's not a file11:17
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Seveaspluggable devices are simply handled this way by hotplug/hal/pmount11:17
alec_pussfeller: talk in the private chat11:17
spazzhow do i install the .run file for my ATI drivers?11:17
pussfelleralec_: i did11:18
apokryphosspazz: what's wrong with Ubuntu's drivers?11:18
Seveasspazz, you throw out the thing and use ubuntu-provided drivers11:18
robotgeekjessid: generally, if you plug in something, it should mount automagically to /media/<label>11:18
gaspSeveas:: where did the admin tools go in breezy?11:18
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jessidSeveas, so what is it?11:18
spazzk11:18
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Seveasgasp, system -> administration11:18
spazznow how do i set up dual monitors11:18
apokryphosubotu: tell spazz about ati11:18
herziwhich part of the ubuntu installation does create /etc/iftab ?11:18
Seveasjessid, you can't put other partitions in the places menu11:18
gaspSeveas:: yeah, i found them, but they don't start up11:18
alec_pussfeller: i need to say something11:18
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Dreamer3ok11:18
Seveasgasp, then edit xorg.conf11:18
Dreamer3does ubuntu hoary's gaim work with google talk?11:18
pussfelleralec_: click on the tab that says, pussfeller :)11:19
Seveasyou would have to do that with the .run file drivers too...11:19
Dreamer3ie, is it broken or am i just doing it wrong?11:19
apokryphosDreamer3: yes!11:19
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robotgeekDreamer3: yes, but minus the sound11:19
SeveasDreamer3, yes11:19
Dreamer3apokryphos: i keed getting a stream error11:19
apokryphosDreamer3: instructions on their site, no?11:19
alec_pussfeller: you don't answer11:19
jessidSeveas, so what happens when I plug in an usb memory?11:19
SeveasDreamer3, yes <-- yes meaning it works11:19
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Dreamer3yes, i found the instructions, just doesn't seem to work11:19
gaspSeveas:: for?11:19
Seveasjessid, hotplug/hal notice it and launch pmount to mount it11:19
QMarioGrrr.... I am starting to dislike Java.11:20
Seveasgasp, maybe this helps11:20
Seveas!ati11:20
ubotuati is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx11:20
jessidseveas gracias11:20
jessidthanks11:20
Dreamer3ok11:20
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Dreamer3i'm on google talk with no one to talk to11:20
Dreamer3how sad is that11:20
QMarioIt can't even import any of my predefined classes. :'(11:20
pussfellerand see my wondrous remarks11:20
pussfellerwhats the name of the ubuntu network setter upper11:20
spazzthanks11:20
apokryphosDreamer3: very very very sad11:20
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SeveasDreamer3, lol :)11:20
Dreamer3apokryphos: and with gaim not like a new IM service is even a big deal11:20
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ompaulDreamer3, your on irc with loads to talk to how sad is that ?11:20
gaspSeveas:: no ati here11:21
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QMarioSeveas, I did what you said and it still can't find my Java archives.11:21
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apokryphosDreamer3: just think of everyone in here as a personal great friend 8). 438 members surely compensates.11:21
tristanmikei'm on google talk too, with no one to chat to11:21
opteekcan someone tell me how to aptget cdrdao in hoary? seems theres a dependency bug with k3d11:21
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anderson@11:21
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anderson@find engenheiros11:21
tristanmikebut does it bother me?.....yes, I'm so lonley11:22
Seveasjabber has been around for a long time already :)11:22
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mkyb14ok if i can't create a file in a folder how do i give my self permissions to create a file in my /var/www folder11:22
Dreamer3Seveas: yeah, i know :)11:22
opteekanyone know?11:22
Dreamer3Seveas: and i figured google woudl use something open :)11:22
ompaulright so night ya all11:22
test34mkyb14, use sudo11:22
Seveasmkyb14, sudo chown -R $user:$user /var/www11:22
mkyb14what's chown vs chmod?11:22
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Seveaschown = change owner11:22
Seveaschmod = change permisions11:22
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opteekchgrp11:22
apokryphosmkyb14: man pages are always good11:23
rulebrakeri have tried "alsactl store" and no change i still have to configure my sb16 via alsaconf at every boot i also have to run "modprobe snd-sb16" any ideas?11:23
opteeksunova11:23
QMarioSeveas, what should I do?11:23
mkyb14chown: `:': cannot omit both user and group11:23
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opteekanyone have k3b working in hoary??11:23
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daakurulebraker: did you try adding the module to /etc/modules?11:23
jessidchao a todos!11:23
apokryphosopteek: hundreds here, yes.11:23
butcherbirdapt-get install cdrdao?11:23
jessidy gracias!11:24
kemik!tell kemik about ntfs11:24
rulebrakerno how do i do that?11:24
opteekthat obviously doesnt work butcher11:24
opteek!11:24
ubotuopteek: Did you get hit by a windmill?11:24
Madpilotopteek: sure - just install in via Synaptic, and you'll need to install a bunch of KDE libraries...11:24
apokryphosopteek: sure does; what's the problem?11:24
daakurulebraker: just add a line with the name of the module you would use with modprobe11:24
rulebrakerok thanks i will try11:24
opteekapokryphos, cdrdao doesnt have an installation candidate in hoary, but k3b doesnt install it as a depend11:24
butcherbirdopteek, i just apt got it11:25
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opteekin hoary?11:25
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butcherbirdyes11:25
apokryphosopteek: that's an issue, yes, but if you install it from Universe it'll work11:25
opteekwell, my sources must be gay then11:25
mkyb14chown: `:': cannot omit both user and group .... why does it say that11:25
apokryphosopteek: no, you're just lacking the Universe repository :)11:25
apokryphosubotu: tell opteek about repos11:25
gaspSeveas:: other than help, i don't even get any output from apt-get....11:26
lsuactiafnerheh umm still wondering where do i put hoary-extras to get captive package?11:26
alec_what's the off topic channel called11:26
lsuactiafnerin sources..11:26
Seveasmkyb14, replace $USER with your username11:26
mkyb14which one there's two11:26
mkyb14chown: `:': cannot omit both user and group11:26
tristanmikealec_, #ubuntu-offtopic11:26
Seveasmkyb14, both :)11:26
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jdermersometimes synaptic asks me for my ubuntu cd11:26
jdermeris it possible to download the iso and like mount it so it wont bug me heh11:26
alec_Seveas: what's the off topic channel called?11:27
mkyb14kyb14@ubuntu:/var$ sudo chown -R $mkyb14:$mkyb14 /var/www11:27
tristanmikealec_, #ubuntu-offtopic11:27
alec_thanks11:27
mkyb14chown: `:': cannot omit both user and group11:27
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Seveasmkyb14, drop the two $ characters11:27
daakumkyb14: what exactly are you typing?11:27
Madpilotmkyb14: leave the $ off11:27
Seveashmm, google talk won't let me login11:27
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Seveasbother, said poo :)11:28
opteekanyone gotten google earth to run under nix?11:28
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Seveasopteek, wine/cedega/crossover can't run it11:28
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michire11:29
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michidamn11:29
michii should not have closed the lid11:29
daakujdermer: if you use the live repositories and have a broadband connection, you can remove the cd as a source11:29
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magne_hi11:30
michiafter doing so i got asked for some pass i dont know11:30
LittleDanhow can I get gcc >=3.4 without using debian repositories?11:30
michilooked like some screen saver with pw protection11:30
michibut my password from /etc/shadow did not seem to work for that11:30
michii had to power off my laptop11:30
michivery strange11:30
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michiLittleDan,  compile gcc by hand maybe?11:31
QMarioWhy is NetBeans so ridiculous?11:31
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SeveasLittleDan, breezy has gcc 3.5 / 4.0 and i though hoary had them too11:31
Seveas!info gcc-4.011:31
ubotugcc-4.0: (The GNU C compiler), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 4.0-0pre6ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 458 kB, Installed size: 3116 kB11:31
QMarioYou can't even create a new .java file, but it "forces" you to create a new project. >:o11:31
rulebrakerok back this time to say thanks sound is working perfectly now cheers11:31
Seveasyep, in universe :)11:32
daakuQMario: didnt they phase that out for sun one or something?11:32
QMarioWhat is sun one?11:32
michiQMario,  iam using oracle`s jdev i like it more than eclipse or netbeans11:32
LittleDanSeveas: why doesn't that install when I apt-get install gcc?11:32
daakuQMario: i may be wrong, but i though thats the new netbeans11:32
QMarioMichi, is it free?11:33
daakumichi: is it free?11:33
Seveasbecause gcc is a dummy package depending on the recommended version of gcc11:33
LittleDanoh11:33
QMarioDaaku, it is the new Netbeans?11:33
michiqmanman,  yes u only need to register at oracle11:33
QMarioDaaku, heh.11:33
LittleDanand if I apt-get install gcc-4.0, it'll delete 3.3?11:33
QMarioJynx. ;)11:33
michiQMario,  sorry11:33
SeveasLittleDan, no11:33
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Seveasmultiple versions of gcc can happily coexist11:33
QMarioMichi, it isn't?11:33
LittleDanso then how do I set it as the default C compiler?11:34
michiQMario,  it is free11:34
ColonelKernelwell, at least breezy has a new kernel source out11:34
daakuQMario: double jynx :p11:34
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daakuLittleDan: update-alternatives i think11:34
michiQMario,  just register ,download,unpack,and start it11:34
QMarioDaaku,  Heh !!!11:34
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QMarioMichi, thank you! :)11:34
Seveasyep, with update-alternatives11:34
michiwhat is this thing that is started if i close the lid on my laptop?11:35
Seveasmichi, probably the screensaver11:35
michii got asked for a pass but my login password was not acceptet11:35
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Seveashmm11:35
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apokryphosIf anyone can, please test one of the java/w32 torrents on http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/11:35
Seveasthat's odd11:35
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wixtech#quit11:36
michihm11:36
xamihello all11:36
LittleDanit couldn't find gcc-4.0, even after a fresh update11:36
michion vt1 something like starting laptop_mode was displayed11:36
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SeveasLittleDan, did you enable universe?11:37
daakuQMario: looks like netbeans is not sunone, my bad11:37
LittleDanno, I didn't know I had to do that11:37
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xamiI am sorry but I am having soft modem issues please help?11:37
QMarioSeveas, what did you do to that person?11:37
SeveasLittleDan, well you have :)11:37
SeveasQMario, which person?11:37
jrattner1How come I dont here sounds from gaim when I have XMMS open (all in KDE)?11:37
robotgeekhmm..nobody seems to be grabbing the url for testing the torrent's. Seveas ?11:37
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Seveasrobotgeek, I tested them11:37
QMarioSeveas, "mode (+b *!*@*ae ) by Seveas" ?11:38
Madpilotapokryphos: the w32 torrent seems to work fine11:38
Seveas(briefly)11:38
SeveasQMario, spambot ban11:38
robotgeekthanks Seveas, Madpilot11:38
QMarioOh, who was the Spambot?11:38
apokryphosMadpilot: excellent, thank you11:38
daakujrattner1: what output plugin are you using with xmms?11:38
QMario!spam11:38
ubotufrom memory, spam is Freenode is being affected by spammers at present. To overcome it please type '/mode *your nickname* +CE' and hit enter11:38
Seveas!forget spam11:38
ubotui forgot spam, Seveas11:38
jrattner1daaku, OSS, and ARTS in Gaim11:38
mkyb14anyone know what root-tail does??11:38
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Seveasoutdated crud :)11:38
QMarioHee.11:39
QMario!Botsnack.11:39
ubotu:)11:39
bddai need help with ubuntu11:39
daakujrattner1: iirc there's a arts plugin for xmms, try switching to that11:39
jrattner1daaku, and you think that will resolve the problem?11:39
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daakujrattner1: should. i dont think oss can do multiple sources for sound11:40
jrattner1daaku, I only have OSS, eSound and ALSA under Output plugin in XMMS11:40
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lordgothlol11:40
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opteekcan anyone comment on the advantages of blackdown vs sun java11:40
daakujrattner1: apt-cache search xmms arts11:40
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Seveasopteek, blackdown seems o be free11:40
Seveasbreezy includes blackdown java now11:41
LasseLopteek, sun 1.5 is faster and newer, blackdown is Free11:41
opteekthankyou11:41
apokryphosThere's a hoary java deb repository now, if anyone needs it11:41
apokryphos(sun java, that is)11:41
opteekwere at11:41
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Seveasubuntu.nooms.de11:42
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Seveas(afaik)11:42
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Seveasor maybe that was warty...11:42
alec_how do i run bittorrent??11:42
Seveashmm, nooms stopped serving java too :)11:42
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opteekseems so11:43
apokryphosopteek: deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java11:43
amadeushi, i just installed breezy, but my xserver won't run, the log said something about fonts so i modified the /etc/X11/xorg.font and set /usr/share/X11 as a FontPath, but it didn't work, someone can help me?11:43
mkyb14anyone know what root-tail does??11:43
jrattner1When is breezy to be officially released?11:43
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Seveasmkyb14, read the manpage...11:43
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Madpilotjrattner1: Oct 1311:43
dsasjrattner: 13th of Oct iirc11:43
daakualec_: azureus.sourceforge.net/faq.php11:43
jrattner1Madpilot, sick thanx11:43
mkyb14there's no manual entry for it11:43
alec_daaku: is that GNOME Bittorrent?11:44
trillijiCan anyone tell me where the environment variables for a user come from in Breezy11:44
daakualec_: it java/swt bittorrent11:44
Seveasmkyb14, then the package description...11:44
Seveastrilliji, from all over the place...11:44
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alec_daaku: i don't know what that means11:44
amadeusno idea?11:44
alec_daaku: i'm new at linux11:44
LittleDantrilliji, do you have a specific issue?11:45
amadeusby the way, the dist-upgrade semmed to go pretty wrong11:45
trillijiSeveas: I expected that they came from /etc/profile but I've found that that is not the case11:45
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mkyb14i'm lost ... i tried apt-cache root-tail11:45
jrattner1I cant wait for KDE bluetooth11:45
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Seveastrilliji, only for root :)11:45
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trillijiLittleDan: Yes, the path is wrong11:45
Seveasthe others use /etc/bash.bash_profile11:45
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Seveasor per-user settings in ~/.bash_profile and ~/.bashrc11:46
opteekapokryphos, thanks11:46
daakualec_: it runs on java. its in the repositories, so apt-get install azureus should install it11:46
LittleDanbut not all environment variables are defined there, it's just that you can define them there11:46
CookedGryphoni'm still having trouble with updates not downloading11:46
alec_ok11:46
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alec_daaku: couldn't find package11:47
CookedGryphoncan someone help me, it might be somethignm to do with them working first attempt, but then when i try and download them a second time, after attemptikng once, they don't download, come up with a bad header line or something11:47
trillijiOk, so what I am looking for is a place to update the path and environment variables for all users. If a user modifies it then that is their problem, but I want to det it up by default11:47
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ugohey guys...11:47
Seveastrilliji, /etc/bash.bash_profile it is11:47
Seveas(provided all users use bash)11:48
ugoin code land...whats the typical preferred integer values to represend true and false in c11:48
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trillijiSeveas: Yes they do11:48
trillijiThanks a bunch11:48
ugois it like 0 true -1 false11:48
ugo?11:48
daakualec_: probably in universe11:48
jalvarezromhello all11:48
ugoor 0 false -1 true11:48
Seveasugo, the latter11:48
alec_daaku: it syas could not find11:48
Seveasbut in shell scripts it's the other way around :)11:48
ugodanke!!!11:48
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daakualec_: have you enabled universe?11:49
LittleDanso what's the command I do with update-alternatives?11:49
XIIIhi11:49
alec_yes11:49
XIIIhow can i remove kubuntu desktop?11:49
jalvarezromanyone know the repositorie for "java-package"?11:49
SeveasXIII sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop11:49
Seveasjalvarezrom, multiverse11:49
Madpilot!tell jalvarezrom about java11:49
mkyb14AHAH I LOVE the Remote desktop.  so niceeeee11:50
trillijiSeveas: I'm assuming that if I copy /etc/profile to /etc/bash.bash_profile that should do the trick11:50
ugonother question....how do i set my login shell to always be bash11:50
daakualec_: do you have java installed? you can always download it from their website11:51
ugoif its the case i dont have permission  to /etc11:51
Seveastrilliji, they differ quite a bit by default...11:51
alec_daaku: i dont know11:51
alec_daaku: how do i check11:51
Seveasugo, by default on ubuntu systms your shell is bash11:51
XenguyNeed a little help - is there a 'dpkg-reconfigure' command I can run to set up networking on a11:51
LittleDanHow do I use update-alternatives to set my default gcc version to 4.0?11:52
daakualec_: see if running 'java' gives you anything11:52
Xenguy... DHCP like network?11:52
alec_ok11:52
SeveasXenguy, just edit /etc/network/interfaces11:52
alec_daaku: wait where do i run it11:52
SeveasLittleDan, sudo update-alternatives --config gcc11:52
Gobblaumm I got some shit I don't want on startup because i tried "hibernate the computer" how do I get rid of this?11:52
tristanmikealec_, in the terminal11:52
XenguySeveas: OK, will do - there was no /etc/resolv.conf either, but I manually added that just now11:52
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ugoSeveas: i know...im talking about another system not Ubuntu11:53
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Seveasugo, then ask for support somewhere else ;)11:53
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alec_daaku: what do i type11:53
alec_daaku: run java11:53
Seveas(btw: yhe chsh command will help)11:53
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alec_daaku: or just java11:53
tristanmikealec_, no, just "java"11:53
daakualec_: just java11:53
Seveas(btw: the chsh command will help)11:53
ugoSeveas: not nice!11:53
XIIISeveas it didn't work11:53
CookedGryphonSorted my package problem! thanks to nobody!! it seems that some of the downloads can't be resumed and cause the download to fail!11:53
twoSharpa bit off-topic, but how would it be to use linux on a dual-cpu opteron server, and by use I mean use as an desktop PC..? I have an exam tomorrow and I would really appreciate any help :)11:53
alec_command not found11:54
SeveasXIII, how informative... :)11:54
alec_daaku: commnad not found11:54
CookedGryphonso i jsut deleted the partial files out of the apt-cache11:54
CookedGryphonand it works11:54
XIIIi want to remove that kubuntu11:54
SeveasCookedGryphon, hint: apt-get clean11:54
Seveas:)11:54
XIIIi'm on Gnome now11:54
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ugoSeveas: long day  Seveas....getting cranky?11:54
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Seveasugo, ?11:54
CookedGryphonSeveas, y did no1 tell me that b411:54
Seveas(btw: the chsh command will help) <-- ugo, maybe you missed this11:55
darknatureok this is weird I am the only user of this computer yet its saying I am not the root user....11:55
XIIISeveas  i want to remove that kubuntu11:55
SeveasCookedGryphon, must have missed your problem11:55
alec_tristanmike: so it doesnt show anything11:55
CookedGryphonneway i ahven't deleted all the packages, jsut the partial ones11:55
darknaturehow do i obtain being the root user11:55
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CookedGryphonnope, u spoke to me about it11:55
SeveasXIII aptitude pure kubuntu-desktop didn't work?11:55
Seveasif not: what was the error?11:55
freebase`how do i run chkdsk?11:55
CookedGryphonand said check my sources.list for errors11:55
tristanmikealec_, so you don't have it installed....you've changed your sources.list, it take it?11:55
alec_tristanmike: no11:55
LasseLargh! is there a way I can force nautilus to always start as nautilus --browser?11:56
XIII This aptitude does not have Super Cow Powers.11:56
XIIIthat's what i got Seveas11:56
darknatureok this is weird I am the only user of this computer yet its saying I am not the root user....11:56
alec_tristanmike: i'm new at ubuntu11:56
SeveasXIII, that's not an error, paste the complete output on the pastebin11:56
CookedGryphonLasseL, yeah i ahve it set to that, go to the preferences and tick browser mode11:56
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alec_tristanmike: can you show me how to put Java on my computer11:56
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XIIISeveas give me it11:56
opteekdarknature, ubuntu disables root by default11:57
opteekdarknature, use sudo or renable root11:57
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Madpilotdarknature: you aren't root, that's why11:57
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Chastaghirhi @ll, at last boot ubuntu discovers errors on root file system and wants me to check this manually with fsck. I did this with knoppix and now the file system seems to be correct. But now the xserver starts no more automatically11:57
Logtimehi11:57
Madpilot!tell darknature about root11:57
XIIIdarknature system -->>>> adminstration---->>>>users and groups then search for the root and change the password by editing its properiteies11:57
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LasseLCookedGryphon, I must be blind? Can you point me closer to the exact option?11:58
michii need to get newer mono packages? what do i have to add to my sources.list?11:58
Logtimewhat is the last version of wine for ubuntu?11:58
Logtime19/04?11:58
darknaturethats all i have to do?11:58
ChastaghirI must type startx and the xserver starts up without any problems11:58
XIIISeveas give me the pastebin11:58
darknatureok thanks11:58
CookedGryphonLasseL, course, gimmie a moment...11:58
XIIIyeah11:58
dooglusLogtime: the last version hasn't been released yet - they've still not given up.11:58
alec_tristanmike: mike talk to me11:58
opteekChastaghir, yo uneed to change your runmode11:58
LasseLCookedGryphon, got it11:58
SeveasXIII, look at the /topic :)11:58
Chastaghirehmm, runmode?11:58
LasseLColonelKernel, "Always open i browser windows"11:59
dooglusChastaghir: runlevel11:59
daakuChastaghir: you were using gdm before?11:59
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mcphailHmm. Rather a lot of security upgrades today. Downloading v_e_r_y__s_l_o_w_l_y_._._.11:59
CookedGryphonLasseL, edit > preferences, behaviour tab, always open in browser window tick box11:59
Chastaghiryes11:59
CookedGryphonah ok11:59
tristanmikealec_, check you bar at the bottom, I pm'd you11:59
Logtimedooglus,  in this moment what is it?11:59
LasseLColonelKernel, thanks11:59
dooglusLogtime: 23:59:28 here11:59
ColonelKernelcrack rocks?11:59
JosephBhey, how do i get backports back after installing breezy?11:59
alec_tristanmike: I had already answered.11:59
mkyb14is there a php-mysql package? i'm getting a can't connect ot database check php config12:00
e1vishow difficult is it to dual boot ubuntoo??????12:00

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