| ogra | JaneW, 14967 is SOLVED !!! | 12:16 |
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| magnon | don't worry, I'll find you a new one ;) | 12:24 |
| ogra | there are enough, but thanks | 12:24 |
| ogra | :) | 12:24 |
| magnon | inkscape rocks, by the way | 12:25 |
| magnon | :) | 12:25 |
| ogra | since i'm the screensaver maintainer and our dear sabdfl decided he wants gnome-screensaver instead of xscreensaver i have to manage that too... | 12:25 |
| ogra | and screensaver stuff is most time consuming :/ | 12:25 |
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| highvoltage | JaneW: ping | 06:58 |
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| JaneW | hello highvoltage | 08:25 |
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| highvoltage | hi JaneW | 08:31 |
| shaga | good morning both | 08:31 |
| highvoltage | morning shaga | 08:31 |
| shaga | it's morning for me at least :p | 08:31 |
| shaga | and already time for a cig/coffee-break | 08:31 |
| highvoltage | shaga: morning for us too (+2GMT) | 08:31 |
| shaga | same timezone as for me | 08:31 |
| highvoltage | where in the world are you? | 08:32 |
| shaga | in finland ;) | 08:32 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: pong | 08:38 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: I am confussed by your license question... | 08:39 |
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| JaneW | highvoltage: I like the new look - comments on the way... | 08:48 |
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| JuICe_schule | hi | 09:06 |
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| JaneW | spacey: I finally answered you mail... sorry it took so long :) | 10:48 |
| JaneW | spacey: see you at UBZ | 10:48 |
| jsgotangco | =( | 10:51 |
| spacey | JaneW, thanks. | 10:53 |
| jsgotangco | spacey, have fun | 10:54 |
| spacey | thanks :) | 11:06 |
| jsgotangco | wish i could join you guys, just can't | 11:07 |
| spacey | :'( | 11:09 |
| spacey | JaneW, you got a little reply on your mail :) | 11:09 |
| JaneW | ok | 11:17 |
| JaneW | spacey: holding thumbs that your school accepts... | 11:18 |
| spacey | JaneW, yeah | 11:18 |
| jsgotangco | hmmm? | 11:18 |
| spacey | jsgotangco, if school accepts my proposal i can dedicate a few months time to ubuntu | 11:19 |
| jsgotangco | nice | 11:19 |
| spacey | including edubuntu :P | 11:19 |
| jsgotangco | i wish i could do that | 11:19 |
| spacey | if not i will cry :'( | 11:20 |
| jsgotangco | there is a lot to be fixed; i should find time this weekend to file my bug reports and finish up on the doc for inclusion to yelp | 11:21 |
| ogra | morning | 11:41 |
| JaneW | hi ogra | 11:42 |
| ogra | JaneW, did you get, #14967 is solved.... | 11:43 |
| JaneW | moi!? | 11:43 |
| JaneW | YAY | 11:43 |
| ogra | .... with help from linus torvalds ;) | 11:43 |
| JaneW | (ogra I thought yu said 'did you get #14967 solved' ;) ) | 11:43 |
| ogra | its a heavy kernel bug... | 11:43 |
| JaneW | no way! | 11:43 |
| ogra | heh | 11:43 |
| JaneW | very cool | 11:43 |
| JaneW | was he your inotify expert then? ;) | 11:43 |
| ogra | but since sabdfl's decision to switch to gnome-screensaver i recieve about 20 bugs/h | 11:44 |
| === JaneW is impressed | ||
| JaneW | oh dear | 11:44 |
| JaneW | are they bad? | 11:44 |
| ogra | i'm totally swamped in screensaver stuff :( | 11:44 |
| JaneW | :( | 11:44 |
| JaneW | can anyone pick that up for you? | 11:44 |
| ogra | nope, screensaver is my baby... | 11:45 |
| JaneW | so with that biggie gone how are we looking? | 11:45 |
| ogra | still two bad LTSP bugs... | 11:46 |
| ogra | i'm considering a gcompris update, the new version should solve some issues, but i have to convince mdz and still moodle bugs... | 11:46 |
| ogra | thats all... | 11:47 |
| ogra | hey, and we have a really cool CD splash screen :) | 11:47 |
| ogra | the ltsp stuff is solved over one weekend, my problem here is rather to set up a bazaar repo for mdz he can merge, i'll do a little class with the bazaar guys this week... | 11:48 |
| jsgotangco | ogra, the workstation mode is almost bug free with the exception of missing khelpcenter | 11:48 |
| ogra | mdz wont accept any patches from me anymore, so i have to get this running first | 11:49 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, khelpcenter will be added... i had to shuffle the space a bit... now i have 4MB free again :) | 11:49 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 11:50 |
| ogra | apparently someone wrote a teachertool clone and clled it schooltool... i wonder if the schooltool guys know about it... | 11:51 |
| jsgotangco | ogra, we get bootsplash as well? =) i guess no | 11:53 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, CD splash: http://www.grawert.net/edubuntu/edu_isolinux.png bootsplash: http://www.grawert.net/edubuntu/edusplash.png | 11:53 |
| ogra | JaneW, ^^ | 11:53 |
| highvoltage | ogra: when you have a minute or two, let me know, i need to ask you some questions :) | 11:54 |
| ogra | the usplash enhancements to support other images isnt in ubuntu yet, i dont know if we'll have it in time... but the CD splash is in, looks good in action :) | 11:54 |
| ogra | highvoltage, sure | 11:55 |
| ogra | shoot | 11:55 |
| highvoltage | :) | 11:55 |
| highvoltage | i installed edubuntu, | 11:55 |
| ogra | yay | 11:55 |
| jsgotangco | ogra, same image? | 11:55 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, yup | 11:56 |
| highvoltage | then chrooted to /opt/ltsp/i386, (sorry, interupted by phone call) | 11:56 |
| highvoltage | and then apt-get installed edubuntu-desktop | 11:56 |
| ogra | highvoltage, err why ?? | 11:56 |
| highvoltage | and changed login manager to gdm, etc (to use as a diskless fat client). | 11:57 |
| highvoltage | it works wonderfully, | 11:57 |
| ogra | you dont need to touch the /opt/ltsp stuff at all | 11:57 |
| highvoltage | but without sound. Gnome seems to insist on using esd. | 11:57 |
| highvoltage | ogra: yes, I do. we need to have diskless fat clients at some schools for performance. | 11:57 |
| ogra | how do you manage the shh tunnel through gdm ? | 11:57 |
| ogra | ssh even | 11:57 |
| highvoltage | i don't. | 11:57 |
| ogra | so you tested k12 on ubuntu then :/ | 11:58 |
| highvoltage | gdm starts on the local machine, so it doesn't need the ssh tunneling stuff. | 11:58 |
| highvoltage | ogra: no! | 11:58 |
| highvoltage | ogra: the workstations don't work as thin clients, they boot as full machines. | 11:58 |
| highvoltage | just from the network :) | 11:58 |
| ogra | gdm starts on the thin client if you installed it in the chroot... gdm isnt capable of ssh tunneling as is... so you can only do normal X connections... which is k12 and not edubuntu ltsp | 11:59 |
| ogra | ah, for fat clients... | 11:59 |
| highvoltage | ogra: yes, but K12 then uses XDMCP to connect to the server | 11:59 |
| highvoltage | ogra: I don't | 11:59 |
| ogra | now i understand... but you wont be able to run thin clients anymore | 12:00 |
| highvoltage | ogra: I run *everything* on local CPU/memory, etc. | 12:00 |
| highvoltage | ogra: yes, that's the point :) | 12:00 |
| highvoltage | ogra: actually, I can. | 12:00 |
| highvoltage | I have another /opt/ltsp | 12:00 |
| ogra | thast what ldm in dapper will solve | 12:00 |
| highvoltage | or an /opt/realltsp | 12:00 |
| highvoltage | ogra: | 12:00 |
| highvoltage | do you understand what I'm asking now? | 12:00 |
| highvoltage | :) | 12:00 |
| ogra | yes, but you want to separate it in different chroots... i want all in one as long as i use the same arch.... | 12:01 |
| highvoltage | I have diskless fat clients, that work find. Except for sound, it seems that the GNOME on edubuntu just wants to use esd. | 12:01 |
| highvoltage | I can play ogg's with ogg123 on the client, but not from gnome. | 12:01 |
| ogra | but its a good workaround for the fat client problem for now, kudos :) | 12:01 |
| ogra | try using polypaudion, it emulates esd.... | 12:02 |
| highvoltage | thanks, this is just a temporary solution that we need now (actually quite urgently) for some multimedia apps. | 12:02 |
| ogra | *polypaudio | 12:02 |
| highvoltage | ogra: thanks, i'll try that. | 12:02 |
| ogra | its still to buggy to replace esd, we tried to replace esd since warty with it.. but on 80% of the machines it should run fine... hope that you dont belong to the 20% ;) | 12:03 |
| ogra | yay, another 10 screensaver bugs :/ | 12:04 |
| jsgotangco | oh my | 12:04 |
| ogra | *+++++++sigh | 12:05 |
| JaneW | :( | 12:07 |
| ogra | the complaintments about the old lock dialog were less... | 12:10 |
| ogra | (that cused sabdfl to request the change, he didnt like it) | 12:10 |
| ogra | cased even | 12:10 |
| ogra | grr | 12:11 |
| ogra | caused | 12:11 |
| jsgotangco | err | 12:12 |
| jsgotangco | i like the new lock dialog | 12:12 |
| ogra | he didnt... and i doubt mdz will change back to xscreensaver again after all the work that has gone into gnome-screensaver | 12:13 |
| highvoltage | ogra: i can't find polypaudio in edubuntu, should i get it from universe? | 12:13 |
| ogra | yup | 12:13 |
| ogra | things we dont ship are in universe ;) | 12:13 |
| ogra | highvoltage, you could try the themeable ldm for your thin clinets, it doesnt look as scary as the current one... | 12:16 |
| ogra | its here: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu/ | 12:17 |
| highvoltage | ogra: aha, I'll try that for the next setup (i want to make minimal changes to current setup, keep things working :) ) | 12:19 |
| highvoltage | ogra: will ldm also work on "diskless fat clients"? | 12:19 |
| ogra | highvoltage, not yet i guess... | 12:19 |
| ogra | but it will have xdmcp capabilitys for every machine running ssh in your network ;) | 12:19 |
| ogra | no need to set up X to have a server ;) | 12:20 |
| ogra | i simply havent done any testing with fat clients... since is not on the agenda for breezy | 12:21 |
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| highvoltage | ogra: yes, i understand. | 12:25 |
| highvoltage | ogra: i'm going to test this setup in a 27 seat lab next week, | 12:25 |
| ogra | yay | 12:25 |
| highvoltage | ogra: so i'm going to put what i've done on the wiki, so perhaps you could help me clean it up for breezy+1? | 12:26 |
| ogra | yup, no problem :) | 12:26 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: excellent :) | 12:28 |
| JaneW | highvoltage: where's the lab? | 12:28 |
| highvoltage | JaneW: Mitchells Plein | 12:29 |
| highvoltage | ogra: how's your ldap skills :) | 12:29 |
| ogra | very light :) | 12:30 |
| ogra | i will have to improve them for dapper ;) | 12:30 |
| highvoltage | yep. using diskless fat clients with ldap should work nice. | 12:31 |
| ogra | yup | 12:32 |
| highvoltage | for the tests, i'm just adding users to the /chroot. but i'll probably us NIS for a bit longer term test. | 12:32 |
| ogra | ldap is on the agenda for dapper in any case... | 12:32 |
| highvoltage | my ldap is terrible, but i'll have to work on it. | 12:32 |
| ogra | and i will use everything but nis in dapper :) | 12:32 |
| highvoltage | for certain. | 12:32 |
| ogra | it would make a joke out of the security improvements we did with ltsp :) | 12:33 |
| highvoltage | it will still be a temporary solution (for about 4 of our schools) | 12:33 |
| highvoltage | yes, we're going to skip breezy for our schools, and hold on for dapper. | 12:33 |
| ogra | hrm, why does the whole world send me their teachertool clone that cant work with our ltsp *sigh* | 12:36 |
| ogra | i have mails with link to 3 different teacher tools now... all telling me how cool it would work with edubuntu... all run xhost+ on the client and monitor X exports *doublesigh* | 12:38 |
| highvoltage | because it's "ltsp" :) | 12:39 |
| highvoltage | symbiont won't work with our ltsp either. | 12:39 |
| ogra | nope... | 12:39 |
| ogra | but thats ok, i'm not really after supporting webbin stuff... | 12:40 |
| ogra | its not supportable | 12:40 |
| highvoltage | nah, I don't think it should be too much of a problem. | 12:40 |
| ogra | webmin indeed heh | 12:40 |
| ogra | highvoltage, we wont support webmin at any time | 12:40 |
| ogra | so thats a blocker... | 12:40 |
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| === highvoltage didn't suggest webmin | ||
| highvoltage | oh, right, symbiont has a web interface too, sorry. | 12:41 |
| highvoltage | yes, let's avoid that alltogether then :) | 12:41 |
| ogra | symbiont doesnt work without webmin ... its 100% based on it | 12:41 |
| highvoltage | ah, I didn't know that. | 12:41 |
| ogra | thats my prob with it | 12:41 |
| highvoltage | that's actually quite sucky. | 12:42 |
| ogra | its a cool interface... but its based on sowtware that gives a shit on security (pardon my french)999999999999 | 12:42 |
| highvoltage | so it's really just better to put more effort into teachertool. | 12:42 |
| ogra | thats my plan... SCP is in a good state to be used as a base for further enhancements, i plan a plugin system for it so from dapper people can easily write python plugins to enhance it | 12:43 |
| highvoltage | SCP? | 12:44 |
| ogra | my hope is to once have a universal tool to manage all the stuff you need in one place | 12:44 |
| highvoltage | as in scp? | 12:44 |
| ogra | student control panel.... | 12:44 |
| ogra | even a plugin for the old ltsp should be possible, so it should integrate fine with existing infrastructure | 12:45 |
| highvoltage | i wonder how this will affect old ltsp. | 12:45 |
| highvoltage | it's obvious even to me how much better it is. | 12:45 |
| highvoltage | i think they could use the chroot environment as a replacement for the old ltsp chroot | 12:46 |
| highvoltage | (or at least a modifies version) | 12:46 |
| ogra | i think the LTSP team does their summit at UBZ for a reason this year ; | 12:46 |
| highvoltage | it would already be an improvement. | 12:46 |
| highvoltage | hehe :) | 12:46 |
| highvoltage | i think it will cause a bit of confusion, they'll talk about ltsp, ubuntu will talk about ltsp, but it will be two different ltsp's. I think it's important for people to realise that. | 12:47 |
| ogra | i think we'll talk about the same ltsp ;) | 12:48 |
| highvoltage | aaaaaah | 12:49 |
| ogra | the ltsp team works tightly with mdz... pere_gone is working on getting mdz's ltsp into debian afaik, so skole will probably switch too at some point | 12:50 |
| highvoltage | that's excellent. | 12:56 |
| highvoltage | ubuntu is great for bringing the different people together. | 12:56 |
| highvoltage | or at least, the people who work for ubuntu/canonical :) | 12:57 |
| shaga | http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2005/09/20/ | 01:00 |
| shaga | <3 | 01:00 |
| shaga | lovely | 01:00 |
| shaga | time for a cig/coffee-break again.. | 01:00 |
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| jonathan-ftsp | ogra: have you used the /opt/lts/lts.conf before? i tried it with edubuntu this weekend, but my keyboard freezes when i use it, and the changes to lts.conf make little difference. | 02:52 |
| ogra | whoops, missed him | 02:54 |
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| jonathan-fc | ogra: i installed the polypaudio package, but gnome doesn't see the sound card. | 03:00 |
| jonathan-fc | although, if i do a "ogg123 file.off -d alsa09", then it plays. | 03:00 |
| jonathan-fc | is there any way i could get alsa support into gnome? | 03:01 |
| ogra | its there | 03:01 |
| ogra | just select it | 03:01 |
| jonathan-fc | if i go to the selector, it shows no sound cards. | 03:01 |
| ogra | but alsa only works if the soundcard has dmix suport | 03:01 |
| ogra | which is still not every soundcard, thats why we have a mixed architecture for breezy | 03:02 |
| ogra | (esd+alsa/dmix) | 03:02 |
| jonathan-fc | i'm having trouble understanding. | 03:02 |
| jonathan-fc | would the ac97 sound cards in the thinpad laptops support dmix? | 03:03 |
| jonathan-fc | and i810 onboard sound? | 03:03 |
| ogra | dmix is a kernel enhancement that does the same a sound daemon does, its a part of alsa... | 03:03 |
| jonathan-fc | ah. | 03:03 |
| jonathan-fc | would it have a kernel module in ubuntu? | 03:03 |
| ogra | it only works for cards that are "real" soundcards.... most of the onboard soundcards arent | 03:03 |
| ogra | i.e. it will work with a soundblaster | 03:04 |
| jonathan-fc | so esd is my only option here then? | 03:04 |
| jonathan-fc | strangely enough, gdm plays the ubuntu startup sounds when it's booted up. | 03:04 |
| ogra | a "soundserver" is your only option then | 03:04 |
| ogra | thats done by alsaplayer afaik | 03:04 |
| ogra | just try to select alsa in the multimedia settings.. | 03:05 |
| jonathan-fc | how did i miss that... when i click on test, it says failed to contruct pipe. | 03:06 |
| ogra | hmm, so no dmix support for you... | 03:06 |
| ogra | you could use oss as well, but it blocks the sound device | 03:07 |
| jonathan-fc | oss also says failed to contruct pipeline :( | 03:07 |
| jonathan-fc | that part in the pipeline field, is that supposed to be an executable? | 03:08 |
| jonathan-fc | i can't find a osssink or alsasink on my system | 03:08 |
| ogra | its part of gstreamer... all the sinks are in the default install | 03:09 |
| jonathan-fc | perhaps it's a gstreamer package i have missing. | 03:09 |
| ogra | you cant if you have one of the -desktop packages installed | 03:09 |
| ogra | they depend on it | 03:10 |
| ogra | (both edubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop) | 03:10 |
| ogra | oh, indeed you dont have gstreamer0.8-polypaudio installed... so polyp cant work... | 03:11 |
| ogra | install that and try again with it | 03:11 |
| jonathan-fc | i can't find such a package, even in universe. | 03:12 |
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| jonathan-fc | nope. do you have additional sources? | 03:14 |
| ogra | nope | 03:14 |
| ogra | apt-cache show gstreamer0.8-polypaudio gives nothing ? | 03:15 |
| jonathan-fc | W: Unable to locate package gstreamer0.8-polypaudio | 03:16 |
| jonathan-fc | E: No packages found | 03:16 |
| ogra | hmm | 03:16 |
| jonathan-fc | this is my source: | 03:16 |
| jonathan-fc | deb http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted universe | 03:16 |
| ogra | should work | 03:17 |
| jonathan-fc | Sound preferences doesn't show any soundcard under default sound card. do you know where it gets its list from? | 03:19 |
| ogra | nope, ask pitti in -devel | 03:19 |
| jonathan-fc | ok. won't they complain if i as in devel? | 03:20 |
| ogra | nope | 03:21 |
| jonathan-fc | ok, i should ask him where the gstreamer0.8-polypaudio package is, right? | 03:22 |
| jonathan-fc | nevermind | 03:22 |
| jonathan-fc | thanks :) | 03:22 |
| ogra | heh | 03:22 |
| ogra | jonathan-fc, i'd start with installing gstreamer backends... and try to find a workng one... | 03:29 |
| ogra | apt-cache search gstreamer0.8 | 03:30 |
| ogra | will show you a bunch of audiosinks you can use... even arts is supporte | 03:30 |
| jonathan-fc | i just did a apt-cache install gstreamer0.8*, fwiw | 03:30 |
| ogra | d | 03:30 |
| jonathan-fc | apt-get | 03:30 |
| ogra | i think jack might work but it has very bad security issues | 03:31 |
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| jonathan-fc | ogra: I even get the "failed to construct pipeline" message when i use autodetect in multimedia systems selector. any ideas? | 04:02 |
| ogra | i never used/tried autodetect... | 04:03 |
| jonathan-fc | all of them just says the same thing. i'm completely stumped. | 04:03 |
| jonathan-fc | i think i should look at this again friday. | 04:04 |
| jonathan-fc | gdm uses 'gdmplay' | 04:05 |
| ogra | which is a script and calls /usr/bin/aplay -q -N $@ 2> /dev/null | 04:07 |
| jonathan-fc | ok. | 04:08 |
| ogra | which in return is in alsa-utils :) | 04:08 |
| jonathan-fc | so why would alsa work so easily from the console, but not from gnome? am I missing something in gstreamer? | 04:08 |
| ogra | dpkg -l gstreamer0.8-alsa ? | 04:09 |
| jonathan-fc | i have gstreamer0.8-alsa installed, not sure i understand the entire output, /msg'ing to you | 04:11 |
| ogra | ok | 04:11 |
| ogra | err, you cant msg if your user isnt registered | 04:11 |
| jonathan-fc | Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | 04:11 |
| jonathan-fc | | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed | 04:11 |
| jonathan-fc | |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) | 04:11 |
| jonathan-fc | ||/ Name Version Description | 04:11 |
| jonathan-fc | +++-==============-==============-============================================ | 04:12 |
| jonathan-fc | ii gstreamer0.8-a 0.8.11-0ubuntu ALSA plugin for GStreamer | 04:12 |
| jonathan-fc | oops | 04:12 |
| ogra | ii means installed correctly | 04:12 |
| jonathan-fc | ah | 04:13 |
| jonathan-fc | i can't play alsa sounds as a normal user, only root. | 04:13 |
| jonathan-fc | i wonder if that's part of the cause. | 04:13 |
| ogra | hmm, is your user in the audio group ? | 04:14 |
| jonathan-fc | ogra: got my /msg ? | 04:14 |
| jonathan-fc | i don't think so | 04:14 |
| ogra | huh, why ? | 04:14 |
| jonathan-fc | ogra: thanks for your help, i would have wasted many more hours trying to get gstreamer to work :) | 04:29 |
| jonathan-fc | seems like it's always the simple things causing the trouble. | 04:30 |
| jonathan-fc | cheers! | 04:30 |
| ogra | :) | 04:30 |
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| rickfitz | ogra: do you want reports on daily builds? or just the official preview for now? | 04:50 |
| ogra_ | rickfitz, every report helps... | 04:51 |
| ogra_ | but i know that the weekend build was broken apparently | 04:51 |
| ogra_ | should be solved in todays | 04:51 |
| rickfitz | ogra_: so I just found... | 04:51 |
| ogra_ | there was a bug in the module-tinit-tools that prevented the xserver from starting on the thin client | 04:52 |
| ogra_ | *module-init-tools | 04:52 |
| rickfitz | I tried 20050919 - base system install failed at initrd-tools. I didn't check the md5sum, so might be a bad download. | 04:54 |
| ogra_ | hmm, sounds like a bad cd | 04:54 |
| rickfitz | also tried rsync to save bandwidth, but doesn't seem to save anything. | 04:54 |
| ogra_ | i used it yesterday | 04:54 |
| rickfitz | is there a magic block-size or something to get rsync to work well? | 04:57 |
| ogra_ | nope | 05:03 |
| ogra_ | whats the commandline you use ? | 05:03 |
| rickfitz | took it off the GettingUbuntu page, with the url changed to ...edubuntu/daily/current... | 05:06 |
| rickfitz | Added more -v's and saw it seemed to be working, but still wanting over 3hrs to download. | 05:07 |
| rickfitz | which is about the same as a full download. | 05:07 |
| rickfitz | also tried block-size of 2048 to attempt better alignment with iso file structure, but no better | 05:08 |
| ogra_ | rsync -a --progress rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/edubuntu/daily/current/breezy-install-i386.iso breezy-install-i386.iso breezy-install-i386.iso | 05:08 |
| ogra_ | thats the command i use | 05:08 |
| ogra_ | indeed you have to run it in the dir the iso is located | 05:08 |
| rickfitz | only difference is the -a | 05:09 |
| ogra_ | i get an updated iso in about 10-15 mins | 05:09 |
| ogra_ | you also have the breezy-install-i386.iso twice in the end ? | 05:09 |
| rickfitz | yes - although don't know what the second one does (from reading the manpage) | 05:10 |
| ogra_ | hmm, strange then | 05:10 |
| ogra_ | between two dailies you only have a difference of 1-10 MB ... it shouldnt take this long | 05:11 |
| rickfitz | only other thing is I copied the original from elsewhere, but I did alter the timestamp with touch to make it older than the new one. | 05:11 |
| ogra_ | hmm | 05:12 |
| rickfitz | I'll start again and see if I can sort it out... Sounds like it's something my end. | 05:12 |
| rickfitz | Thanks for all your help. | 05:12 |
| ogra_ | :) | 05:13 |
| ogra_ | thanks for all the testing | 05:13 |
| rickfitz | I'm just sorry I got too busy after the summit to get more involved then. Contract extension followed by holidays ruined all my plans. | 05:14 |
| ogra_ | its fine, you are one of the active testers, thats invaluable | 05:18 |
| ogra_ | :) | 05:18 |
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| magnon | hey oliver | 06:11 |
| ogra | hey | 06:11 |
| magnon | apologies for not getting all the testing I wanted done | 06:12 |
| magnon | hope to get some more time now, but life in a new business is unplannable :P | 06:12 |
| magnon | still, as I said earlier, since release is closing in, if you have any specifics you need help with just let me know | 06:13 |
| ogra | i will, crrently there is not much you can do to help me.... there is a lot internal stuff to sort out | 06:14 |
| magnon | right | 06:14 |
| ogra | most intresting are test results and bug reports :) | 06:14 |
| magnon | hopefully where we're going will benefit in the long run :) | 06:15 |
| ogra | surely :) | 06:16 |
| magnon | trying to get a hold of a price on the new xfire servers from sun outside office hours in Norway is haaard. :P | 06:19 |
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| flint_ | hi there!!! | 11:17 |
| flint_ | anyone know where ollie is? | 11:18 |
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| ogra | if you say ogra to me, you get highlighted and i hear a beep flint_ | 11:18 |
| ogra | :) | 11:18 |
| flint_ | olllie!!!! (or ogra) I got a favor to ask... | 11:19 |
| ogra | go ahead | 11:19 |
| flint_ | where did you say the lotr login patch was? I wrote it down (er...) | 11:20 |
| flint_ | I am now at a system where I can check it and report it as working (or not). | 11:20 |
| ogra | http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu/ | 11:20 |
| ogra | read ldm_installation.txt | 11:21 |
| flint_ | thanks ace! | 11:21 |
| flint_ | on it. | 11:21 |
| ogra | its writte that you can copy/paste the commands needed | 11:21 |
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| flint_ | ogra, I lost the url AGAIN! It is Elkner's fault! | 11:30 |
| flint_ | i was reading the txt file and we started talking about rebooting... and .... | 11:31 |
| ogra | http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu/ | 11:31 |
| ogra | :) | 11:31 |
| flint_ | ollie, THANKS! (I am such a fuuul) | 11:32 |
| ogra | nah :) | 11:32 |
| flint_ | bye we reboot.... | 11:32 |
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| rejden | re | 11:43 |
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| jelkner | ogra: ollie, help! the mean consultant broke my edubuntu server :-( | 12:02 |
| jelkner | it keeps recycling and you don't get a login screen | 12:03 |
| jelkner | and *he didn't back it up* | 12:03 |
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