[03:51] <Madpilot> hi all
[04:50] <mpt> hi Madpilot
[04:51] <Madpilot> hi mpt
[06:17] <rob^> grr
[06:18] <rob^> what is the address for our branch?
[07:37] <Burgundavia> jsgotangco, we are we meeting at the same time?
[07:58] <Madpilot> OK... why do we currently have both this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuide
[07:58] <Madpilot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers <-- and this?
[07:58] <Burgundavia> that was from the Nun effort
[07:58] <ajmitch> because the new users group is disorganised?
[07:58] <Burgundavia> you can redirect them to UserDocumentation
[07:58] <Madpilot> so we can blame the Pope for this?
[07:58] <Burgundavia> because the group has been dead for a while now
[07:59] <ajmitch> at least the MOTU group isn't dead! :)
[07:59] <Burgundavia> ajmitch, CategoryMOTU will give you a lot of them
[07:59] <Madpilot> neither of these are old pages - both started this month, from what I can tell.
[07:59] <ajmitch> possibly not all of them, since we've made new pages
[07:59] <Burgundavia> Madpilot, nope, that is the last edit
[07:59] <Burgundavia> previous edit before that was in July
[08:00] <Burgundavia> same with the other one
[08:01] <Madpilot> I'll just have a quick look thru them both, steal any good ideas for UserDocs, and then nuke them to redirect to UD, then...
[08:10] <Madpilot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewToUbuntu  <-- and another one
[08:10] <Madpilot> I'm going to get a reputation as "The Great Redirector" around here..
[08:10] <Madpilot> ;)
[08:11] <Burgundavia> now if only the search ignored redirects
[08:13] <Madpilot> ah well
[08:15] <Madpilot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToGetHelp <-- this I quite like, however. I'm going to clean it up and link to it from UserDocs
[08:17] <Burgundavia> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WikiImprovements <-- please edit with your ideas
[08:17] <Madpilot> will do. am also planning another email to the doc-list, possibly tonight.
[08:18] <Madpilot> what do ppl think of restructing bits of the wiki as a sequential walkthrough, similar to linuxcommand.org's setup?
[08:19] <Burgundavia> the problem with that is if people want to jump to the specific info
[08:20] <Madpilot> have a look at how linuxcommand does it - there's both a regular ToC and a "Next Page" link
[08:21] <Burgundavia> hmm
[08:34] <Madpilot> " This is an unofficial guide for users of Ubuntu: shows you how to do many things. It is better at merely showing than actually explaining, however, and parts are not up to date." <-- fair?
[08:34] <Burgundavia> hmm
[09:20] <Burgundavia> bon soir, robitaille 
[09:21] <robitaille> hellow Burgundavia.   Too many things to do...not enough hours in a day :)
[09:25] <Madpilot> hi robitaille
[09:26] <robitaille> Hi Madpilot 
[09:27] <Burgundavia> robitaille, indeed
[09:27] <robitaille> and of course my most productive time is always close or past my bed time...
[09:28] <Madpilot> naturally
[09:28] <Madpilot> I'm usually far, far more useful at 11pm than I am at 11am...
[09:29] <Madpilot> currently, I'm slaughtering redundant wiki pages
[09:31] <robitaille> I'm currently testing the laptop once, and trying to fill up more items on my laptop wiki page
[09:31] <robitaille> now I only need to find a docking station for it...
[09:33] <Madpilot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowComeDraft  <-- trying to finish this off a bit more so we can junk the existing UbuntuHowCome, which is a mess...
[09:39] <Madpilot> oops.. Mark Shuttleworth's own website doesn't validate ;)  http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.markshuttleworth.com%2F  - and part of it doesn't work in Opera, but that's a know Opera Javascript bug... :(
[01:54] <sladen> hello all, how do I revert https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeamTemplate;  some kind luser has gone and filled it with their own results.   plonker
[05:15] <sladen> are there *any* wiki experts here?
[05:28] <mpt> how expert?
[05:34] <Kinnison> what wiki?
[08:06] <sladen> mpt Kinnison: wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:07] <sladen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeamTemplate has been toasted by some laptop tester
[08:18] <mpt> sladen: fixed
[08:20] <mpt> If you want to revert a page, go to the history, find the revision you want to revert to, click "Raw" next to that revision, and copy and paste
[09:51] <sladen> mpt: ta.  thanks.  That's why I did find it.  "History" is called "Get info".  *boggles*
[10:21] <mpt> sladen: yeah, if you could complain upstream that would be great :-)