| Riddell | means you need to rebuild gwenview and dikikam then | 12:03 |
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| allee | yeap and then remove c2 when backporting to hoary ;) And main is frozen. So as far as I understand a libkipi -> libkipi0c2 transistion + rebuild of depends is too late in the game for breezy too. right? | 12:05 |
| Riddell | allee: I'm not following. what's the problem here? | 12:08 |
| Verwilst | hm :( | 12:09 |
| Verwilst | kubuntu breezy doesn't work on my brandnew pc :$ | 12:09 |
| allee | okay, other way round: is an upload of a new libkipi release that has a NEW libkipi0c2 pkg still possible in breezy main? Including the gwenview (main), showimg, kimdaba, digikam, kipi-plugins rebuild? | 12:09 |
| Verwilst | first of all, the kernel hangs on bootup when i enable ACPI | 12:10 |
| Verwilst | with acpi=off, it installs | 12:10 |
| Verwilst | but when X starts, the screen is just black/white striped | 12:10 |
| Verwilst | and that's it | 12:10 |
| Verwilst | amd64, MSI Neo2 Mobo, Geforce 6600GT 256MB | 12:10 |
| Riddell | allee: there is no need to add c2 to kipi | 12:12 |
| allee | Riddell: ah, now I see what you miss: Debian has lib{kipi,kexif}0c2 in unstable already | 12:13 |
| Riddell | Verwilst: that's a bit low level for me, you might want to try #ubuntu | 12:13 |
| Riddell | allee: tsk. why? | 12:13 |
| Verwilst | Riddell: i really hoped it would install perfectly :'( | 12:14 |
| allee | He, changelog says to 'sync' with ubuntu ;) | 12:14 |
| Verwilst | well, i'm off to bed! | 12:14 |
| Verwilst | see ya | 12:14 |
| allee | Riddell: but I remember that I complained here that the c2 is not necessary ... | 12:14 |
| allee | Riddell: so I assume it was removed in ubuntu and Paul did notice in time and uploaded a +c2 pkgs | 12:15 |
| allee | s/did/did not/ | 12:15 |
| === allee was in holidays when this happened | ||
| Riddell | allee: arn't they your packages? how come someone else changed them? | 12:16 |
| allee | we, Marc (my sponsor) and me are maintaining them, c++ trans in debian started just before I went to holidays and Marc Purcell did the c++ trans | 12:18 |
| allee | for completeness, Paul Telfort the 'old' maintainer is still on uploaders too | 12:19 |
| Riddell | ah, so anyone listed as uploader in debian/control file can upload? | 12:20 |
| allee | Riddell: me not. Only an official debian maintainer | 12:20 |
| Riddell | sure | 12:20 |
| Riddell | allee: well either you or someone fixes it in debian or debian decides they like having excessive c2's on their packages and it'll get synced in dapper | 12:21 |
| allee | more presize if not on uploader one has to upload an NMU pkg. Or it's considered hijacking ;) | 12:21 |
| Riddell | so technically there's nothing to stop you hijacking? | 12:22 |
| allee | I'm on uploaders ;) | 12:22 |
| Riddell | I mean anyone can just hijack, it's only a social thing that they don't? | 12:23 |
| allee | but I can't upload for obvious reasons | 12:23 |
| allee | Riddell: lintian complains and hijacking is considered a very bad thing in debian | 12:24 |
| Riddell | yep | 12:24 |
| allee | AFAIR new ftp-master checks include a is-not-a-hijack-uplaod | 12:24 |
| Riddell | :) | 12:25 |
| Riddell | allee: well it's up to you I guess, either fix the debian packages or we'll sync in ubuntu later | 12:26 |
| allee | So summary: for hoary and breezy, without-c2 are needed. So I guess I'll try to change it in debian (debian-release will not be happy with all those transitions already going on, but it's better than 'backporting' during the whole life of breezy | 12:26 |
| Riddell | what's debian-release? | 12:27 |
| allee | mailing list coordinationg releases and testing. currently mostly c++ trans stuff traffic and other lib soname changes) | 12:29 |
| Riddell | just blame it on ubuntu :) | 12:29 |
| allee | lol | 12:30 |
| allee | When upstream officially announces the half a dozend new release I come back check how to make them available. | 12:33 |
| allee | thx. back to pkging | 12:33 |
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| === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Riddell] : ideas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperGoals || Make packages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KDE35Packages || apt-get install adept kde-guidance || Breezy Preview http://www.kubuntu.org/breezy-preview.php || https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/Kubuntu | ||
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| Riddell | allee: thanks for the feedback on the guidance packaging, I've uploaded that now | 03:47 |
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| Tonio- | Riddell: apparently a problem with last Adept package.... | 04:39 |
| Tonio- | snapshot -> http://planetemu.net/temp/capture1.png | 04:42 |
| Tonio- | I tried to reboot and that doesn't change.... | 04:43 |
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| hunger | How about adding kcalc to kubuntu-devel? | 11:13 |
| hunger | It is annoying to not have a calculator handy by default. | 11:14 |
| hunger | s/kubuntu-devel/kubuntu-desktop/. | 11:14 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 11:14 |
| Tm_T | Kcalc? it's there? | 11:15 |
| hunger | Tm_T: Not for me... maybe I did remove it myself? It is not listet in kubuntu-desktop. | 11:15 |
| Tm_T | oh, then | 11:15 |
| Tm_T | really should be there | 11:16 |
| Tm_T | I don't know is it there by default, I never "use" default things | 11:16 |
| hunger | Tm_T: I trimmed down my installation recently to basically kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop. | 11:16 |
| allee | Riddell: np, glad my comments were useful | 11:17 |
| hunger | Tm_T: And suddenly kcalc is gone:-( | 11:17 |
| Tm_T | uff | 11:17 |
| Tm_T | not good | 11:17 |
| hunger | How does this katapult work?! | 11:22 |
| hunger | Is it the default run dialog in kubuntu? | 11:22 |
| hunger | crispin: The latest udev was supposed to have that fixed:-( | 11:26 |
| === hunger still has the /d/i/mice problem with the new udev. | ||
| hunger | Plus I get lots of failures from alsa now. | 11:44 |
| === hunger really hates KDM using properly sized fonts with fixed positions for the rest. | ||
| hunger | My display has 130dpi... that breaks the layout since the fonts are way larger then expected. | 11:50 |
| hunger | dmk: Did you try running udevstart on the console? | 11:54 |
| hunger | dmk: I have that problem for a couple of weeks now. | 11:54 |
| hunger | dmk: Run udevstart, that should get you set up again (till you reboot). | 11:55 |
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| Riddell | hunger: speedcrunch replaces kcalc | 12:31 |
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| Riddell | hunger: alt-space for katapult | 12:31 |
| hunger | Riddell: I havn't found that in the menu... will check once my box works again. | 12:31 |
| hunger | pitti: Ich meine gelesen zu haben, das der auf 120s erhoeht wurde... | 12:44 |
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| Tonio- | hi everyone | 12:46 |
| hunger | What is the KBluetoothD doing, asking about kbluepin? | 12:49 |
| hunger | Riddell: Ksysguard applett works again for me... I needed to fix ssh for it to let me loggin to my own account on localhost without passwd. | 12:51 |
| Riddell | hunger: I need to sort out kbluetooth to stop it getting in the way | 12:53 |
| hunger | Riddell: Can I just OK the question? I do not understand it, so I am reluctant to do so. | 12:54 |
| Riddell | just ok it | 12:54 |
| hunger | Riddell: I never noticed KDE ask so many stupid questions before... | 12:54 |
| Riddell | it has a habit of that. I got rid of the amarok stupid startup wizard | 12:55 |
| Riddell | kwallet is evil | 12:55 |
| hunger | Riddell: It asked me whether I want to create a index of KDEhelp today... never did that before. | 12:55 |
| apokryphos | death to kwallet indeed | 12:55 |
| hunger | Riddell: I have an idea what that wiondow is about (and hatet it in windows already), but my mom would be stomped. | 12:55 |
| hunger | apokryphos: kwallet rulez! I couldn't access any site without it. | 12:56 |
| hunger | apokryphos: Make that anything with a password:-) | 12:56 |
| apokryphos | I've just never had a problem remembering passwords (I don't tend to use the same ones for everything, neither) | 12:56 |
| hunger | apokryphos: Well... I have about 150 different passwords in kwallet at this time. | 12:57 |
| apokryphos | hehe | 12:57 |
| hunger | apokryphos: And that is not counting SSH passphrases to about 200 servers. | 12:57 |
| apokryphos | I gotta set up ssh keys ideally; bit too lazy atm. | 12:58 |
| hunger | apokryphos: I just wish all our customers could agree to using one sane set of rules for remote access... | 12:59 |
| hunger | apokryphos: Some insist on RSA tokens (onetime passwords) to secure telnet sessions *shivers* | 12:59 |
| apokryphos | heh | 12:59 |
| apokryphos | Maybe I should get into kwallet (it could speed up some things I guess); just picture in my mind of annoying KWallet popups for email that wouldn't go away | 01:00 |
| apokryphos | then you have to dig into places before finding it to disable in kcontrol | 01:01 |
| hunger | apokryphos: Kmail does not use kwallet IIRC. | 01:01 |
| apokryphos | it does | 01:01 |
| Riddell | it dies | 01:01 |
| Riddell | does | 01:01 |
| Riddell | silly keyboard | 01:01 |
| hunger | Not here... strange. | 01:01 |
| hunger | Maybe I because I am importing my settings for ages now (long before there was a kwallet). | 01:02 |
| Riddell | you can set up your wallets to not need a password and not time out, makes them a lot less hassle :) | 01:02 |
| hunger | Riddell: If only someone could fix those annoying missing wallet problems I am seeing occasionally. | 01:03 |
| hunger | Riddell: What is up with your kde 3.5 beta debs? Are you still working on those? | 01:06 |
| === apokryphos would continue working on them but has a problem he can't figure out | ||
| apokryphos | in all my chroots I get "su: su must be run from a terminal". Weeird. | 01:07 |
| Riddell | hunger: I don't really have time to work on them, if someone else cjan that would be greaet | 01:07 |
| Riddell | hunger: what missing wallet problems? | 01:07 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: when do you get that? | 01:08 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: on any su in a chroot | 01:08 |
| apokryphos | (mind you, I've never got sudo to work in chroot, even though I do direct copies of the profile/group etc files) | 01:08 |
| hunger | Riddell: My wallets "vanish" from time to time... ususlla show up one or two upgrades later. | 01:09 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: don't run su (I just run everything as root in a chroot) | 01:13 |
| Riddell | hunger: that's spooky | 01:14 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: how can I get directly to a root account in chroot? | 01:14 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: sudo chroot :) | 01:14 |
| Riddell | I don't use dchroot | 01:14 |
| apokryphos | ah; thanks | 01:14 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: also, how to create new (and edit) patches? | 01:19 |
| apokryphos | I think if I can get past that hurdle I'll be able to do a lot of these =) | 01:20 |
| Riddell | cp foo.cpp foo.cpp-orig | 01:22 |
| Riddell | emacs foo.cpp | 01:22 |
| Riddell | diff -u foo.cpp-orig foo.cpp | 01:22 |
| Riddell | it's not pretty | 01:22 |
| Riddell | you also have to edit the patch to have the correct paths at the top | 01:22 |
| apokryphos | not a problem | 01:22 |
| Riddell | and emacs doesn't like editing files that end in .diff, just to be annoying | 01:22 |
| apokryphos | I presume that in the emacs step I do ctrl+x, ctrl+c, vi foo.cpp ;-) | 01:23 |
| apokryphos | I didn't think I could use plain diff for it -- that's good. Gotta eat; will do once I get back. | 01:24 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: ok back. What are the other reasons for a patch not being applied? | 01:44 |
| apokryphos | with kdegames, the original patch didn't work and there's an .rej | 01:45 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: it means that what it's trying to patch has changed | 01:45 |
| apokryphos | ok, no problem | 01:45 |
| apokryphos | should I delete the .rej after? | 01:46 |
| Riddell | you need to patch by hand, do a diff and use that diff in the patch | 01:46 |
| Riddell | and delete the .rej yes | 01:46 |
| apokryphos | thanks | 01:46 |
| Riddell | actually I think debuild will delete the .rej file anyway | 01:48 |
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| paines | hi | 01:48 |
| Riddell | paines: yo | 01:49 |
| paines | i would like to help with buidling kde packages for amd64 | 01:49 |
| Riddell | rocking | 01:49 |
| Riddell | paines: do you know where to start? | 01:50 |
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| paines | no. is there a howto ? | 01:50 |
| Riddell | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KDE35Packages is a brief guide to making KDE 3.5 beta packages | 01:50 |
| Riddell | but you can miss most of it out since the packages are already there | 01:50 |
| Riddell | start by making a breezy chroot (see DebootstrapChroot) | 01:51 |
| Riddell | then grab the source packages | 01:51 |
| Riddell | debuild | 01:51 |
| Riddell | done | 01:51 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: you're missing out the patches step 8) | 01:51 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: well he doesn't need to do that if he's just re-compiling the existing i386 packages | 01:52 |
| apokryphos | oh, yeah; excellent. Easy stuff. :) | 01:52 |
| paines | well, I am running breezy by default. | 01:52 |
| Riddell | paines: chroot is the way to go for building packages | 01:52 |
| paines | should I reinstall hoary, and install a chroot breezy ? | 01:52 |
| paines | okay | 01:53 |
| apokryphos | paines: you can have a hoary or breezy chroot (it sets up the environment as if you had installed either of those). | 01:53 |
| apokryphos | paines: no, no need to install hoary. You can have a hoary chroot on breezy | 01:53 |
| paines | apokryphos, correct | 01:53 |
| paines | okay. I will do the steps provided by https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KDE35Packages, and give it a try | 01:54 |
| paines | and let you know when I am ready | 01:54 |
| Riddell | 3.5 beta 1 has just been released by the way | 01:54 |
| apokryphos | paines: as was mentioned, you can ignore most of those steps though (as you'll only be rebuilding on 64-bit) | 01:54 |
| Riddell | paines: get the sources from deb-src http://kubuntu.org/kde35beta1 breezy main | 01:55 |
| Riddell | apt-get source kdelibs etc | 01:55 |
| Riddell | paines: start with arts | 01:55 |
| paines | allright | 01:56 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: any special name for patches? Or just kubuntu_XX_application_link.diff ? | 01:59 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: what is most descriptive. are you adding new patches or changing existing ones? | 02:00 |
| apokryphos | changing existing | 02:00 |
| Riddell | just keep the same name and mention that it's changed in the changelog | 02:00 |
| apokryphos | ok | 02:01 |
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| verwilst | hi | 02:08 |
| verwilst | the 3.5 repo has been announced, but only a handful of pkgs are done? :) | 02:09 |
| apokryphos | verwilst: where was it "anounced"? Note that it's a beta version, too, of course. Hardly any distros would even build packages for this | 02:10 |
| \sh | apokryphos: it's announced on kde.org in 3.5 announcements | 02:11 |
| \sh | http://www.kde.org/info/3.5beta1.php | 02:11 |
| verwilst | i'll help packaging too :) | 02:11 |
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| apokryphos | oh; I only got the kde-announce | 02:11 |
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| apokryphos | evil Make error: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2406 :/ | 02:14 |
| === verwilst is in kde 3.5 | ||
| verwilst | but i need kdenetwork + kdepim 3.5 before i need something | 02:15 |
| verwilst | uh | 02:24 |
| verwilst | before i see* something :p | 02:24 |
| apokryphos | verwilst: best to just use a chroot for building the packages now | 02:27 |
| verwilst | apokryphos: hehe i know :p | 02:27 |
| apokryphos | so why'd you need those? | 02:27 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: is that in a file which has been patched? | 02:32 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: nope; the patch is in kbounce/Makefile.am | 02:33 |
| apokryphos | s/is in/is of/ | 02:41 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: compiling | 02:44 |
| verwilst | Riddell: maybe if you could create the 3.5 packages, then i'll compile em? | 02:45 |
| verwilst | i don't have time to fiddle with the patches myself now because of work | 02:45 |
| Riddell | verwilst: can't really do one without the other | 02:45 |
| verwilst | but since i work in a datacenter, i have lots of machines that can compile ;) | 02:45 |
| verwilst | Riddell: well, i can compile, and send you error messages | 02:45 |
| verwilst | and fix some myself even | 02:46 |
| Riddell | verwilst: if you want to give me ssh and a chroot on those that would be lovely :0 | 02:46 |
| verwilst | i wish i could :p | 02:46 |
| verwilst | but every change in the firewalling rules is logged | 02:46 |
| verwilst | i do most of my compiling on the mysql cluster i've setup :p | 02:47 |
| verwilst | since i set em up and admin em, nobody notices :p | 02:47 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: libkdegames compiles fine for me | 02:49 |
| apokryphos | gah | 02:49 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: are you using unsermake or normal make? | 02:50 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: I took the unsermake dependencies out; doing a simple debuild | 02:51 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: breezy chroot? | 02:52 |
| apokryphos | yup | 02:52 |
| Riddell | maybe try installing libqt3-compat-headers | 02:53 |
| Riddell | then debuild -nc | 02:53 |
| apokryphos | ok | 02:56 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: hm, same error. | 03:17 |
| verwilst | Riddell: if we could have some shared thingy where we can put the packages, then i can compile and report succes/failure, while you can focus on porting em | 03:41 |
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| Riddell | verwilst: it's the porting that takes time | 03:52 |
| verwilst | Riddell: compiling too no? | 03:53 |
| verwilst | so i could take the compiling part out of your hands :d | 03:54 |
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| apokryphos | Riddell: figured I'd try my luck with kdeedu; it contains two patches, but both of which are about a file that doesn't seem to exist (langen2kvtml) at all. | 05:49 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: then you can probsably remove the patches :) | 05:49 |
| apokryphos | woo | 05:50 |
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| JRe | wow new udev package does not work at all | 06:32 |
| Riddell | JRe: yes, I discovered this too :( | 06:36 |
| Riddell | changelog from upload a couple of hours ago "Well, that didn't work so well now, did it folks?" | 06:37 |
| JRe | :) | 06:37 |
| \sh | hmmmm... | 06:41 |
| \sh | 0.060-1ubuntu14 works for me :) | 06:42 |
| JRe | \sh: ho for me last version is ubuntu13 | 06:43 |
| \sh | JRe: apt-get update dude..and dist-upgrade...then /etc/init.d/udev restart ; /etc/init.d/{kdm,gdm} restart | 06:44 |
| \sh | then u have ubuntu14 | 06:44 |
| \sh | and a running x with mouse and everything :) | 06:44 |
| JRe | \sh: i think the package is not already on mirror (i did an update of course =) =)) | 06:45 |
| \sh | JRe: use archive.ubuntu.com...it was there at 18:00 | 06:45 |
| JRe | \sh: ok! thanks :) | 06:45 |
| \sh | 18:00 == 16:00 UTC :) | 06:46 |
| Riddell | sebas: do you know why libpythonize requires the /usr/lib/libpython2.4.so link from python2.4-dev? | 06:53 |
| \sh | Riddell: in pyqt? | 06:55 |
| Riddell | \sh: well pyqt all works, if I run userconfig on its own it works fine, but kcmshell userconfig needs that link | 06:55 |
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| \sh | Riddell: argl...is it this pykde extentions stuff? | 06:56 |
| \sh | Riddell: because in those extensions are the kcontrol center plugin interfaces..right? | 06:57 |
| Riddell | \sh: yes, that's libpythonize | 06:58 |
| \sh | crap | 06:58 |
| Riddell | but ldd on libpythonize says it doesn't need that link | 06:59 |
| Riddell | nor indeed /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/qt.so | 06:59 |
| \sh | hmm... | 07:00 |
| \sh | kde-guidance is the package with userconfig inside...and what was the source pkg name for the extentions?? | 07:00 |
| \sh | let me have a lookk | 07:00 |
| \sh | hmmm | 07:05 |
| \sh | dh_install -plibpythonize0-dev debian/pykdeextensions/usr/lib/lib*.so usr/lib | 07:05 |
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| \sh | Riddell: check the .la file..it's wrong | 07:08 |
| \sh | # Directory that this library needs to be installed in: | 07:09 |
| \sh | libdir='/build/buildd/pykdeextensions-0.3.1/debian/pykdeextensions/usr/lib' | 07:09 |
| \sh | # Names of this library. | 07:09 |
| \sh | library_names='libpythonize.so.0.0.0 libpythonize.so.0 libpythonize.so' | 07:09 |
| Riddell | ll | 07:11 |
| \sh | i think u have your enemy | 07:12 |
| Riddell | libtool is evil | 07:12 |
| \sh | yepp | 07:12 |
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| Riddell | yo amu | 07:20 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: for icons, there's a cyrstalsvg, hicolor, and locolor -- should that be the case? And, should I only replace entries for where they really don't exist? | 07:21 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: a lot of the icons have moved around (from crystal to hicolour mostly but I also moved some from locolour to hicolour in kdegames) | 07:22 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: just make sure the .install files match what's really there | 07:22 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: did you get it compiled then? | 07:22 |
| apokryphos | and cyrstalsvg shoudl exist? | 07:22 |
| apokryphos | ok | 07:23 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: the icon theme should exist yes, most icons will get installed to crystal | 07:23 |
| amu | hey Riddell | 07:34 |
| \sh | huhu amu | 07:35 |
| amu | .oO moin sh | 07:35 |
| Riddell | \sh: you were saying something about amarok epochs the other night.. :) | 07:37 |
| \sh | ah | 07:37 |
| \sh | yes | 07:37 |
| \sh | amu: the epochs in amarok are nasty..i wanted to come to dueren to kick u ;) | 07:38 |
| \sh | amu: i can't sync it directly anymore from debian now *gnarf* | 07:38 |
| amu | \sh: hehe, i did it? amarok sounds for me unkown :D | 07:39 |
| amu | btw. we're evaluating our +1 mil. domains moving from debian to ubuntu | 07:40 |
| \sh | amu: we did it already at ish :) | 07:41 |
| \sh | running 5 dns on ubuntu.. | 07:41 |
| \sh | and we're moving more services from sun sparc/slowlaris to ubuntu | 07:41 |
| amu | \sh: those server in our DC? | 07:41 |
| \sh | amu: no...the servers at ISH DC | 07:47 |
| \sh | amu: the servers in HE DC are running with redhat 7.3, gentoo and mine on ubuntu | 07:47 |
| \sh | Riddell: i just kicked amu for nothing... | 07:47 |
| \sh | amarok (2:1.2.3-1ubuntu1) hoary; urgency=low | 07:47 |
| \sh | * Sync with Debian | 07:47 |
| \sh | -- Jonathan Riddell <jr@jriddell.org> Wed, 30 Mar 2005 04:25:27 +0000 | 07:47 |
| \sh | or i forgot one entry... | 07:47 |
| \sh | amu: when breezy is out i have to come to your office and update the little bastard | 07:47 |
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| \sh_away | grmpf | 07:48 |
| Riddell | hmm, there's something missing from that changelog, I wouldn't have just upped the epoch to 2 for no reason | 07:49 |
| \sh_away | Riddell: i will look on the other laptop later | 07:50 |
| \sh_away | so i missed something | 07:50 |
| Riddell | or a previous packager did | 07:50 |
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| \sh | me needs a short rest... | 07:52 |
| \sh | laters | 07:52 |
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| amu | Riddell: who's working on 3.5? i'm the only one? | 07:55 |
| Riddell | amu: apokryphos was doing kdegames | 07:55 |
| Riddell | JRe said he'd do something but I'm not sure what he's got to | 07:55 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: I had that evil problem, doing kdeedu now | 07:55 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: right | 07:56 |
| apokryphos | harder to change all these icons than I'd thought; no sed usage here :D. Nevermind, done that now. /me crosses fingers and debuilds | 07:56 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: good luck :) | 07:56 |
| amu | Riddell: ok .. testing now the live, brb | 07:57 |
| Riddell | amu: good luck | 07:57 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: what happened with kmessedwords executable? cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/bin/kmessedwords': No such file or directory | 09:01 |
| amu | uff all time the image is 702mb | 09:02 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: didn't it change name to something else? | 09:02 |
| apokryphos | oh, kanagram. And I just wrote a doc not too long ago on it as kmessedwords. I'll just edit the .install file then | 09:03 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: you should change the package name too (change the .install and in debian/control) | 09:04 |
| apokryphos | hm, well, I'd have to edit loads of things I guess | 09:04 |
| Riddell | grep is your friend :) | 09:04 |
| apokryphos | oh wait, I see the actual kanagram/ is ok | 09:04 |
| apokryphos | Yup, no problem. | 09:04 |
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| \sh | JRe: ping | 09:11 |
| JRe | \sh: pongue | 09:12 |
| \sh | JRe: where should i send u the pybt source as template for kpybt? | 09:12 |
| JRe | \sh: sent in private | 09:13 |
| Riddell | amu: still battling with live CD? | 09:53 |
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| amu | Riddell: yep, acpi is not working, it hangs at boottime at the acpi-check, now i removed it and rebuild it .... | 10:01 |
| amu | looks like nobody takes care in past about liveCD's :D | 10:01 |
| amu | gimme 15min. than i can tell you, there's a live or not | 10:03 |
| amu | S99acpi-support there it hangs, at least at my laptop ... | 10:04 |
| Riddell | acpi=off is your friend | 10:05 |
| amu | doesnt work :D | 10:05 |
| amu | the good news is, if it works, it runs on every laptop or desktop :) | 10:07 |
| amu | case "$1" in | 10:10 |
| amu | start) | 10:10 |
| amu | log_begin_msg "Checking battery state..." | 10:10 |
| amu | if [ -d /proc/acpi/ac_adapter ] ; then | 10:10 |
| amu | grep -q off-line /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/*/state >/dev/null 2>&1 | 10:10 |
| amu | if [ $? = 0 ] | 10:10 |
| amu | then | 10:10 |
| amu | $LAPTOP_MODE start | 10:10 |
| amu | $HDPARM -S 12 /dev/hda | 10:10 |
| amu | $HDPARM -B 1 /dev/hda | 10:10 |
| amu | fi | 10:10 |
| amu | 10:10 | |
| amu | "Checking battery state..." there it loops | 10:10 |
| amu | cannot check atm, if the proc file is there or not or $LAPTOP_MODE $HDPARM isnt set | 10:11 |
| amu | burning ... | 10:12 |
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| amu | yes, yeah now kdm starts | 10:17 |
| Riddell | amu: that's always useful I find :) | 10:18 |
| Tonio | hi everyone ;) | 10:18 |
| Riddell | evening Tonio | 10:18 |
| Tonio | Riddell: I saw you integrated that kdm ;) | 10:18 |
| Tonio | kdm theme | 10:18 |
| Riddell | yes | 10:18 |
| Tonio | thanks ;) ^^ | 10:18 |
| Riddell | we could do with a decent splash screen though | 10:19 |
| amu | 435%$% hangs on initalizing system services | 10:19 |
| Tonio | did you receive my mail concerning kaffeine and amarok ? I have found many issues with gstreamer....... | 10:19 |
| Riddell | Tonio: I did, it was useful | 10:19 |
| Riddell | Tonio: how would you fancy backporting the amarok alsasink to 1.3.1? | 10:20 |
| amu | Riddell: hehe | 10:20 |
| Tonio | you mean ? | 10:20 |
| Riddell | Tonio: alsasink was got rid of in amarok 1.3.1, but it's back now | 10:21 |
| Tonio | ahhhhhhhhhhhh nice ;) | 10:21 |
| Riddell | Tonio: so we could do with patching amarok 1.3.1 to include the current SVN alsasink | 10:21 |
| Tonio | oss is really............. bad ;) i was dissapointed having to use it ;) | 10:22 |
| Tonio | little question about xine, is it able to use gstreamer plugin ? | 10:23 |
| Riddell | no | 10:23 |
| Tonio | I thought it could only with mplayer ones, but while testing i saw it could play about anything, and I didn't install w32codecs...... | 10:24 |
| Tonio | I was surprised..... really, and I still don't understand what it was using..... it was a fresh install though | 10:24 |
| Tonio | reboot time see ya ;) | 10:25 |
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| Tonio | Riddell: Idon't understand..... | 10:31 |
| Tonio | I have kaffeine with xine, on a fresh default install, no w32codecs installed, and everything plays fine.............. | 10:32 |
| Tonio | is that normal ??? According to what I know you don't get anything if you don't install msodecs.... | 10:34 |
| amu | Riddell: no way, booted from my desktop, acpi is fine, could be a problem with my testlaptop, but there it hangs at the starting panel, than a messagecome cannot start process, cannot talk to klauncher | 10:36 |
| apokryphos | Tonio: let's put it down to one of life's great mysteries and say nothing more of it *cough* | 10:37 |
| Tonio | ^^ | 10:38 |
| amu | s/starting panel/loading the panel | 10:40 |
| Riddell | Tonio: plenty stuff plays without w32codecs | 10:52 |
| Tonio | I may have a lot of chance ;) | 10:56 |
| Tonio | gstreamer doesn't play much without libs installation :) | 10:56 |
| Riddell | the streamer plugins in universe and multiverse help | 10:57 |
| Tonio | okay I have to leave, I'm up for 39 hours..... a bit tired ;) | 10:57 |
| amu | Riddell: is there someone else who tried the hoary packages? | 10:57 |
| Tonio | good night everyone :) | 10:58 |
| Riddell | amu: hmm, quite possibly not | 10:58 |
| amu | Tonio: n8 | 10:58 |
| Tonio | Riddell: are you going to implement gstreamer alsa in amarok before breezy's out ? not to give preasure, just to know ;) | 10:58 |
| Tonio | amu: ^^ | 10:59 |
| amu | Riddell: is it a known problem with klauncher? | 10:59 |
| Tonio | amu -> could not talk to klauncher when logging out ? | 10:59 |
| Tonio | talking about that one ?? | 11:00 |
| Riddell | Tonio: I don't know, I'll try and look at it | 11:00 |
| Tonio | okay ;) thanks ;) | 11:00 |
| Tonio | 'nite all | 11:00 |
| amu | Riddell: i'll up the image, please check with your hardware :) it could be cause my spacial hardware *g* | 11:02 |
| Riddell | amu: ok | 11:02 |
| amu | scp kubuntu-hoary-live-i386.iso amu@kubuntu.org: | 11:03 |
| amu | kubuntu-hoary-live-i386.iso 0% 360KB 117.0KB/s 1:13:09 ETA | 11:03 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: is there no command to make it scan all the relevant files (.install etc), and check if they exist? | 11:12 |
| apokryphos | doing a debuild (even with -nc), seems like an awful lot of time is wasted | 11:13 |
| Riddell | apokryphos: dh_install --list-missing | 11:13 |
| apokryphos | arghh | 11:13 |
| Riddell | as mentioned on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KDE35Packages | 11:13 |
| apokryphos | I think you even told me that last time; what a dunce. Thanks again. | 11:14 |
| Riddell | you might also need a --source-dir=debian/tmp in there | 11:14 |
| amu | 59aa34f1e6a84d6669310150181480ad kubuntu-hoary-live-i386.iso | 11:14 |
| apokryphos | yes, I even *used* it last time. Geez; bad memory. | 11:14 |
| apokryphos | Riddell: in this package there are quite a few libkvoctraincore.so (and variants), and there's no libkvoctraincore.install -- should I make one and put the relevant .so inside? | 11:24 |
| === apokryphos looks over the huge output of dh_install but is *determined* to finish tonight :D | ||
| Riddell | apokryphos: sounds like a good id,ea yes | 11:28 |
| amu | gn8 all | 11:49 |
| Riddell | night amu, thanks | 11:49 |
| amu | Riddell: np, letme know where's the bug | 11:52 |
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