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| mjg59 | BenC: I've just sent you a couple of ndiswrapper patches | 12:20 |
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| mjg59 | BenC: So in the last couple of days I've sent you: | 12:22 |
| mjg59 | BenC: alps suspend, ACPI hotkey, hp sound support, sk98lin, PCMCIA bridge fixes, PCMCIA hibernate fix, HP reboot patch, ATI 2x timer, Appletouch driver, ndiswrapper patches | 12:24 |
| mjg59 | BenC: When you wake up, could you confirm that you've got all of those? :) | 12:24 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Oh, also ipw2200 device shutdown | 12:24 |
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| BenC | mjg59: sure thing | 01:22 |
| BenC | mjg59: and thanks | 01:22 |
| mjg59 | BenC: No problem | 01:24 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Wurgh. Sorry, one more. | 01:40 |
| mjg59 | Low priority | 01:40 |
| mjg59 | tc1100-wmi | 01:40 |
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| zul | heylo | 05:20 |
| zul | BenC, i just commited to my arch sk98lin is there sky2 isnt im all set. | 05:21 |
| fabbione | morning guys | 05:23 |
| zul | morning fabbione | 05:23 |
| fabbione | hey zul | 05:24 |
| zul | right im off my laptop is dying so im off | 05:25 |
| fabbione | eheh good night | 05:25 |
| zul | later.. | 05:25 |
| fabbione | BenC: ping? | 05:31 |
| TheMuso | c | 05:36 |
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| fabbione | BenC: when you need to bump the ABI, please use the target bumpapi: in debian/rules | 05:46 |
| fabbione | BenC: it will do the right thing for you | 05:46 |
| fabbione | it will save you from little issues like killing the build system, building empty pkgs and destroy hppa build :) | 05:47 |
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| BenC | fabbione: ah, ok | 07:16 |
| fabbione | BenC: anyway.. i did fix it.. | 07:17 |
| fabbione | and committed | 07:17 |
| BenC | saw that, thanks | 07:17 |
| fabbione | no problem | 07:20 |
| fabbione | BenC: did you have any time to look at klibc? | 07:21 |
| fabbione | it start to be of a big concern for me | 07:21 |
| fabbione | because we are getting very close to release and it would really really suck to miss breezy for one package | 07:21 |
| fabbione | if you need access to a sparc, i can let you use mine | 07:22 |
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| ivoks | hi | 01:09 |
| ivoks | i don't know if this is known problem, but after recent update i don't have /dev/psaux anymore | 01:10 |
| ivoks | oh, udev... sorry about this... | 01:13 |
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| zul | hey | 02:12 |
| mjg59 | zul: Hi | 02:15 |
| mjg59 | You were looking for me last night? | 02:15 |
| zul | mjg59: yeah i just wanted to let you know i commited sk98lin to my arch | 02:24 |
| mjg59 | Ok, cool | 02:25 |
| BenC | zul: hey | 02:27 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Have you got all the patches I sent you? | 02:28 |
| BenC | yeah | 02:28 |
| mjg59 | Cool | 02:29 |
| zul | BenC: heylo | 02:31 |
| BenC | zul: ready for me to pull yet? | 02:31 |
| zul | yep..i just have sk98lin patch and the ndiswrapper amd64 stuff in my tree, i didnt commit the buslogic because i was having problems with it getting it to compile | 02:32 |
| BenC | zul: ok, can you tell me your repo URL again? | 02:34 |
| BenC | I lost it with the rest of my system last week | 02:35 |
| BenC | and can you email me the buslogic diff you have? I can see about getting it to compile | 02:35 |
| zul | http://zulinux.homelinux.net/arch/zulcss@gmail.com--2005 | 02:35 |
| zul | yeah i can do that tonight when i get home | 02:35 |
| zul | i have a meeting in 30 minutes for 2 hours and then another after that...fun fun | 02:36 |
| BenC | good luck...bring a pillow :) | 02:38 |
| BenC | zul? | 02:45 |
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| zul^ | damn it | 02:54 |
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| fabbione | hey guys | 03:50 |
| BenC | hey | 04:09 |
| fabbione | BenC: *cough*klibc*cough* ;) | 04:10 |
| BenC | I tried building it, but for some reason it isn't finding the kernel headers | 04:14 |
| fabbione | doh! | 04:14 |
| fabbione | stupid question.. did you install them? | 04:14 |
| fabbione | it doesn't use the one from the running kernel | 04:14 |
| fabbione | it wants the generic ones | 04:15 |
| BenC | generic as in /usr/include/{linux,asm}? | 04:22 |
| BenC | fabbione: I'm thinking that klibc and everything that uses it may need to be compiled 64-bit | 04:35 |
| BenC | I'll let you know though | 04:36 |
| fabbione | BenC: no as in /usr/src/linux-kernel-headers-2.6.12-8 | 04:36 |
| BenC | ok, compiled for me | 04:44 |
| BenC | had to prepend the build command like "sparc32 debian/rules" | 04:44 |
| BenC | the static binaries work (gzip, etc) | 04:48 |
| BenC | ash works too | 04:48 |
| fabbione | so it does build with our headers.. | 04:50 |
| fabbione | and in 32 bit... | 04:50 |
| fabbione | but i guess you are using debian based chroot.. aren't you? | 04:50 |
| BenC | yeah | 04:50 |
| fabbione | ok | 04:50 |
| BenC | the key may be the sparc32 command | 04:50 |
| fabbione | we need to understand why it fails in a breezy chroot | 04:50 |
| BenC | otherwise it seems to go by uname | 04:50 |
| fabbione | we only use sparc32 on buildd | 04:50 |
| fabbione | like debian does | 04:51 |
| fabbione | but it fails | 04:51 |
| fabbione | so it might be a toolchain issue | 04:51 |
| BenC | is there a real ubuntu machine I can get to? | 04:51 |
| fabbione | yes | 04:52 |
| fabbione | just send me your ssh public key | 04:52 |
| BenC | sent | 04:53 |
| fabbione | added | 04:58 |
| lamont | Sep 21 08:55:36 localhost kernel: [4300057.793000] Process iwlist (pid: 23067, threadinfo=e94d6000 task=c3fd8a60) | 04:59 |
| lamont | Sep 21 08:55:36 localhost kernel: [4300057.793000] Call Trace: | 04:59 |
| lamont | Sep 21 08:55:36 localhost kernel: [4300057.793000] [pg0+944840526/1069872128] ide_do_request+0x1f3/0x367 [ide_core] | 04:59 |
| lamont | Sep 21 08:55:36 localhost kernel: [4300057.793000] [io_schedule+14/22] io_schedule+0xe/0x16 | 04:59 |
| lamont | Sep 21 08:55:36 localhost kernel: [4300057.793000] [__wait_on_bit_lock+87/97] __wait_on_bit_lock+0x57/0x61 | 04:59 |
| lamont | Sep 21 08:55:36 localhost kernel: [4300057.793000] [prep_new_page+115/120] prep_new_page+0x73/0x78 | 04:59 |
| lamont | Sep 21 08:55:36 localhost kernel: [4300057.793000] [buffered_rmqueue+326/447] buffered_rmqueue+0x146/0x1bf | 04:59 |
| lamont | Sep 21 08:55:36 localhost kernel: [4300057.793000] [__alloc_pages+374/998] __alloc_pages+0x176/0x3e6 | 04:59 |
| lamont | Sep 21 08:55:36 localhost kernel: [4300057.793000] [pg0+948702806/1069872128] ieee80211_iterate_nodes+0x3b/0x66 [wlan] | 04:59 |
| lamont | Sep 21 08:55:36 localhost kernel: [4300057.793000] [pg0+948729857/1069872128] ieee80211_ioctl_giwscan+0x5c/0xa8 [wlan] | 04:59 |
| lamont | Sep 21 08:55:36 localhost kernel: [4300057.793000] [pg0+948722528/1069872128] read_ap_result+0x0/0x5b8 [wlan] | 04:59 |
| lamont | Sep 21 08:55:36 localhost kernel: [4300057.793000] [wireless_process_ioctl+1472/2023] wireless_process_ioctl+0x5c0/0x7e7 | 04:59 |
| lamont | bad ath0 | 04:59 |
| lamont | and then ifconfig hangs | 05:00 |
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| fabbione | lamont: known bug | 05:00 |
| fabbione | patch welcome :) | 05:00 |
| lamont | ah, okl | 05:00 |
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| zul | morning | 05:10 |
| BenC | zul, I've merged your stuff, thanks | 05:11 |
| fabbione | hm let me know when it's time to build on sparc :) | 05:13 |
| BenC | : undefined reference to `.umul' | 05:14 |
| BenC | /usr/lib/gcc/sparc-linux-gnu/4.0.2/libgcc.a(_muldi3.o): In function `__muldi3': | 05:14 |
| zul | BenC: cool thanks | 05:15 |
| BenC | libgcc is broken | 05:15 |
| BenC | or... | 05:15 |
| fabbione | or? | 05:16 |
| fabbione | can we build it with like gcc-3.4? | 05:16 |
| fabbione | i don't think i did try that | 05:16 |
| BenC | I'm thinking it is compiling for v7, when we can do with v8 | 05:17 |
| BenC | is there no editor in this chroot? :) | 05:17 |
| fabbione | nope.. let me install it for you | 05:18 |
| fabbione | i can see you already did | 05:18 |
| fabbione | BenC: take into account we did drop all the sparc32 support.. there should be nothing left | 05:19 |
| BenC | -m32 may be setting -mcpu=v7 | 05:19 |
| fabbione | there is vi installed | 05:23 |
| fabbione | dunno if you noticed | 05:23 |
| fabbione | or do you need something more fanc | 05:24 |
| fabbione | +y | 05:24 |
| BenC | vi: command not found | 05:25 |
| BenC | I had to install vim | 05:25 |
| fabbione | yeah when i did try to install, it was already installed :) | 05:25 |
| jbailey | fabbione: Well, dropped pre-ultrasparc support. It's not like we opted for a 64bit usersapce. | 05:27 |
| fabbione | yeah.. | 05:27 |
| fabbione | i know | 05:27 |
| fabbione | we could consider to switch to full 64 bit | 05:27 |
| fabbione | but i guess if we won't make breezy, my sparc will stop being a buildd | 05:27 |
| fabbione | and become my firewall/router | 05:28 |
| jbailey | What will serve as the buildd then? | 05:28 |
| jbailey | Or are you just not going to bother? | 05:28 |
| BenC | full 64-bit userspace is not suggested | 05:29 |
| BenC | some programs are suggested to be 64-bit though (like anything messing in /proc, fs tools, etc) | 05:30 |
| BenC | odd, there's a umul.S for sparc in klibc | 05:30 |
| jbailey | Right, it's confusing that it doesn't pull it in. | 05:30 |
| jbailey | In fact, it's confusing that it's using the system libgcc at all when it has a bundled one. | 05:30 |
| BenC | yeah, maybe I need to find out why | 05:30 |
| BenC | oh, really? | 05:30 |
| jbailey | They all seem to by the top MCONFIG file. | 05:31 |
| fabbione | jbailey: i might give dapper a shot.. failed that i will stop.. | 05:31 |
| BenC | fabbione: FYI, I mistook my build before, it was on a debian system, I forgot to chroot | 05:31 |
| BenC | so it does in fact build | 05:31 |
| BenC | just not in breezy userspace | 05:31 |
| fabbione | that sounds more like a gcc fucks up | 05:32 |
| fabbione | what gcc are you using on Debian? | 05:32 |
| jbailey | fabbione: What was the blocker for Hoary? | 05:32 |
| jbailey | Also keep in mind that the sparc glibc is totally different on Ubuntu than it is on Debian. | 05:32 |
| fabbione | jbailey: gcc wrong B-D | 05:32 |
| fabbione | jbailey: how do i force gcc with cdbs? | 05:33 |
| fabbione | DEB_MAKE_CC ?? | 05:33 |
| jbailey | CC= | 05:34 |
| BenC | umul is getting compiled | 05:34 |
| jbailey | BenC: You've got as far as I did before my connection to Fabio's sparc stopped being useful. =) | 05:34 |
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| jbailey | *sigh* | 05:35 |
| fabbione | jbailey: you are still logged in according to vultus5 | 05:35 |
| jbailey | fabbione: Nope. | 05:35 |
| jbailey | fabbione: The firewalls like to drop connections. | 05:35 |
| jbailey | And I hit a huge lag while I was debugging. | 05:35 |
| fabbione | jbailey: try to force the connection to 195.22.207.161 than | 05:36 |
| BenC | .umul is in libc.a too | 05:36 |
| fabbione | it's not natted | 05:36 |
| jbailey | fabbione: I go through two nat boxes here to get out. | 05:36 |
| fabbione | ah ok | 05:37 |
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| jbailey | fabbione: with klibc? Setting CC is probably not enough. | 05:37 |
| jbailey | You'll need to touch MCONFIG, I suspect. | 05:37 |
| jbailey | klibc doesn't use autotools or much in the way of standardish things. | 05:38 |
| BenC | ok, this is an ordering problem of some kind | 05:38 |
| fabbione | it was enough to add CC=gcc-3.3 at make invocation inside debian/rules | 05:38 |
| jbailey | Ah, cool. | 05:39 |
| BenC | looks like gcc-3.3 did the trick | 05:44 |
| fabbione | yeah | 05:45 |
| fabbione | it builds | 05:45 |
| fabbione | i guess there is only one way to know if it works :) | 05:47 |
| BenC | ash doesn't work | 05:47 |
| jbailey | Make sure you're in the static directory. | 05:48 |
| BenC | zcat does | 05:49 |
| jbailey | I don't use ash for initramfs FWIW | 05:49 |
| BenC | $ file sh | 05:49 |
| BenC | sh: ELF 32-bit MSB executable, SPARC, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked (uses shared libs), stripped | 05:49 |
| BenC | ./sh | 05:49 |
| BenC | -bash: ./sh: No such file or directory | 05:49 |
| jbailey | What directory are you in, though? =) | 05:50 |
| jbailey | file won't show it as dynamically linked, it's not an ELF file. | 05:50 |
| BenC | how is it "statically linked" AND "uses shared libs" | 05:50 |
| jbailey | klibc is thpethial. | 05:50 |
| BenC | it shows it is ELF | 05:50 |
| jbailey | It's sort of lying. | 05:50 |
| BenC | ok | 05:50 |
| jbailey | It's ELF enough for the kernel to load it. | 05:50 |
| BenC | sh.g works | 05:50 |
| BenC | sh must be linked to shared | 05:50 |
| BenC | so we're good | 05:51 |
| fabbione | ok.. | 05:51 |
| jbailey | fabbione: Want me to smack it with a GCC-3.3 for sparc, and send her off? | 05:51 |
| fabbione | i guess we need to try to boot a kernel with a initramfs | 05:51 |
| fabbione | jbailey: let see if it works first | 05:51 |
| BenC | ./static/uname -a | 05:51 |
| BenC | Linux vultus5 2.6.12-8-sparc64 #1 Wed Aug 31 06:10:19 UTC 2005 sparc64 sparc64 | 05:51 |
| jbailey | Right. Let's see how well initrmafs works on sparc in the first place. =) | 05:52 |
| jbailey | fabbione: Add the word 'break' to the kernel command line to get dropped into a shell in the initramfs | 05:52 |
| jbailey | BenC: The reason it's not pure ELF is to do away with semantics that don't need to be true for early userspace. | 05:52 |
| fabbione | jbailey: i hope it's not going to dump me like last time | 05:53 |
| jbailey | BenC: There's no ongoing binary compataibility, symbol versioning, etc. | 05:53 |
| BenC | gotcha | 05:53 |
| jbailey | BenC: That's why the klibc.so file name is so weird - it's a sha1 hash of the symbol list. =) | 05:53 |
| BenC | so it's like aout, but in elf format :) | 05:53 |
| jbailey | Any change, and you can't use it. =) | 05:53 |
| jbailey | Right. | 05:53 |
| jbailey | The side effect is that it can be *really* small. =) | 05:53 |
| BenC | and still shared libs | 05:54 |
| fabbione | Setting up libklibc (1.0.14-1ubuntu2) ... | 05:54 |
| fabbione | Setting up klibc-utils (1.0.14-1ubuntu2) ... | 05:54 |
| fabbione | jbailey: these 2 are enough.. right? | 05:54 |
| jbailey | fabbione: busybox-cvs-initramfs | 05:54 |
| fabbione | oh ok | 05:55 |
| fabbione | that's already installed.. | 05:58 |
| jbailey | initramfs-tools depends on everything it needs, so it ought to be fine. | 05:59 |
| fabbione | yup it is | 05:59 |
| jbailey | HEy, once it's through the NEW queue, it'll even be in Debian. =) | 05:59 |
| fabbione | i am distupgrading the box ... | 05:59 |
| infinity | jbailey : Have you talked with dilinger and friends about moving Debian to initramfs, once our guinea pigs^W^Wusers have helped iron out the bigger bugs? | 06:01 |
| jbailey | infinity: Not in detail, no. | 06:02 |
| jbailey | infinity: Or rather, the last time we all talked about it was a kernel team meeting almost a year ago. | 06:02 |
| infinity | It irritates me slightly less than mkinitrd (though, I still prefer no initrd, but that's me), so I wouldn't mind it becoming the Debian standard. | 06:03 |
| jbailey | Hard to do no initrd in a distribution kernel. | 06:03 |
| infinity | yes, exactly. | 06:03 |
| fabbione | infinity: klibc is not portable yet | 06:03 |
| fabbione | not everywhere | 06:03 |
| infinity | Hence "the standard". | 06:03 |
| infinity | The Adam Standard is no initrd and monolithic kernel builds. | 06:03 |
| jbailey | fabbione: klibc is generally portable. It uses kernel header files for the missing bits. | 06:04 |
| jbailey | So generally if you have a working kernel for an arch, klibc ought to work/ | 06:04 |
| infinity | fabbione : How many arches are we missing, and how evil is the code? | 06:04 |
| fabbione | jbailey: but it has not been tested on many arches | 06:04 |
| infinity | jbailey : Ahh, you answered my question. | 06:04 |
| fabbione | infinity: no idea.. i did read the doc a while ago | 06:04 |
| infinity | Getting it testing on m68k is just a matter of throwing it at smarenka (our d-i hacker and reboot bitch) and saying "test this, yo" | 06:04 |
| jbailey | fabbione: Eh? It's been tested on a surprising amount of them. | 06:05 |
| fabbione | jbailey: some of Debian arches arent'' | 06:05 |
| jbailey | infinity: It's even easier than that. Build it and do utils/static/uname -a | 06:05 |
| fabbione | including sparc64 | 06:05 |
| fabbione | we are the guinea pigs.. | 06:05 |
| jbailey | fabbione: sparc64 works fine. It's sparc32 that has the problem, remember? =) | 06:05 |
| fabbione | (vultus5 rebooting now) | 06:05 |
| jbailey | infinity: If that works, the rest of it generally ought to since it's just syscalls. | 06:06 |
| infinity | jbailey : Oh, that's all it takes to declare it working? | 06:06 |
| jbailey | infinity: Unless there's some ELF magic that's special on m68k | 06:06 |
| jbailey | But even then we could just pull the static versions for m68k for now. | 06:06 |
| infinity | Nothing particularly magic compared to other arches. | 06:06 |
| fabbione | YEAH! | 06:06 |
| jbailey | Hmm, I should add that test to the klibc build. | 06:06 |
| fabbione | jbailey: you are good to go | 06:06 |
| fabbione | upload | 06:06 |
| jbailey | fabbione: Ist g? | 06:06 |
| fabbione | like.. | 06:06 |
| fabbione | yesterday | 06:07 |
| jbailey | fabbione: So if the arch is sparc, force gcc-3.3? | 06:07 |
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| jbailey | No other patches needed? | 06:07 |
| fabbione | nope.. i did only force gcc-3.3 | 06:07 |
| infinity | jbailey : A very simple testsuite (even if it's just running the one binary and checking the exit code) would be very appreciated. | 06:07 |
| fabbione | with the code that's there | 06:07 |
| jbailey | fabbione: FWIW, other sparc distros seem to have the same problem (acc to Google), so it's probably generally gcc-4 breakage. | 06:07 |
| infinity | jbailey : I wish more packages did something that simple. | 06:08 |
| jbailey | fabbione: I can try to talk to some of the sparc gcc folks. | 06:08 |
| fabbione | jbailey: ok... | 06:08 |
| === fabbione hugs jbailey too | ||
| jbailey | infinity: YEah. I'd like to see Debian policy changed such that if a package has a testsuite it must be run. | 06:08 |
| jbailey | Awwww. | 06:08 |
| jbailey | infinity: Even that would be a start. | 06:08 |
| jbailey | Then get an army of ants to go write testsuites. =) | 06:08 |
| infinity | jbailey : I dunno, some testsuites are insane (check out the X test suite sometime), but ANYTHING that can tell me "yeah, this probably won't segfault when you call --help" is so far from where we are today, it would be great. | 06:09 |
| jbailey | infinity: Well, it might discourage Daniel from uploading daily. ;) | 06:10 |
| infinity | It could block Ubuntu's buildds for a week. | 06:10 |
| infinity | Lord only knows what it would do to m68k or arm. | 06:10 |
| infinity | I'd probably just conditionally disable the suite on slower arches, which completely defeats the purpose. | 06:11 |
| dilinger | infinity: aiui, we will release 2.6.13 with initramfs | 06:11 |
| infinity | What most packages need is a reasonably small set of testcases that can cover the "more common usages that really ought to work", so we can see if gcc/binutils is providing us with completely dud binaries. | 06:12 |
| infinity | dilinger : Rock. | 06:12 |
| dilinger | initramfs just entered the archive; no noe is really interested in keeping devfs around, and i haven't seen anyone get yaird working w/ it | 06:12 |
| infinity | initramfs actually appears to work, so I'm all for using it. ;) | 06:13 |
| dilinger | pfft | 06:13 |
| dilinger | whether it works or not is irrelevant ;) | 06:13 |
| infinity | If Etch leapfrogs breezy/dapper (very likely, given dapper's more conservative release goals), I may just switch this laptop to Debian again. | 06:14 |
| infinity | (But I didn't say that in an #ubuntu- channel, no sir) | 06:14 |
| jbailey | leapfrogs how? =) | 06:15 |
| infinity | Spiffy-feature, laptop-lovin', new-software-havin'-wise. | 06:15 |
| infinity | If I have anything to say about it, Ubuntu won't even attempt to be a feature leader for Dapper's development, cause I want rock-hard stability. | 06:16 |
| infinity | But I'm sure this argument will come up over and over (and over) again at UBZ. | 06:16 |
| === lamont wonders if this klibc upload is all that keeps hppa from being able to install ubuntu-base | ||
| infinity | I just hope I win. | 06:16 |
| jbailey | lamont: What? Do you finally have lvm2? =) | 06:16 |
| lamont | infinity: dapper willl wind up with whatever gnome is latest/greatest, you can count on that. | 06:16 |
| lamont | jbailey: /lvm2_2.01.04-5ubuntu1: Installed [:] | 06:17 |
| jbailey | \o/ | 06:17 |
| infinity | lamont : Yeah, tailing the GNOME release schedule is much less harmful than some other crack people will try to foist on us, though. | 06:17 |
| lamont | built on sept 1 | 06:18 |
| lamont | true | 06:18 |
| lamont | jbailey: last time I tried it, ISTR klibc was the only holdout (well, actually, its rbuild-deps...) | 06:18 |
| BenC | anyone else think I should start with 2.6.14-rc's for post breezy rather than messing with 2.6.13? | 06:19 |
| jbailey | Yup | 06:19 |
| jbailey | I do't think it's worth the hassle of porting the patches twice. | 06:20 |
| fabbione | BenC: skip .13 | 06:20 |
| fabbione | we can do like we did for breezy and started on .12rc directly | 06:20 |
| BenC | sounds like a plan then | 06:20 |
| fabbione | BenC: what we did was: | 06:20 |
| fabbione | 2.6.11.90 (12rc1) | 06:20 |
| fabbione | no ABI changes tracking | 06:20 |
| fabbione | lots of uploads | 06:21 |
| fabbione | we did start tracking the ABI as soon as .12 was final | 06:21 |
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| BenC | fabbione: anytime between now and tomorrow is a good time for a sparc test build | 06:24 |
| fabbione | BenC: do you have any pending commit to baz? | 06:24 |
| BenC | hold on | 06:25 |
| BenC | I have a failing patch | 06:25 |
| fabbione | ok | 06:25 |
| BenC | only thing I have left is a 5-liner for x86 | 06:25 |
| BenC | let me fix this patch | 06:25 |
| fabbione | ok | 06:26 |
| jbailey | BenC: When can I book your for kernel postinst love? =) | 06:29 |
| jbailey | BenC: I really want it to use update-initramfs instead of mkinitramfs | 06:30 |
| jbailey | That will make it so that I can just do "update-initramfs -u" from usplash | 06:30 |
| fabbione | jbailey: than you should probably do it by now | 06:30 |
| jbailey | fabbione: I've been asking for help for a week now.. | 06:30 |
| jbailey | I don't know perl well enoyugh to hack that file safely. | 06:30 |
| === fabbione sighs | ||
| fabbione | jbailey: we need to hack the postinst.. right? | 06:31 |
| jbailey | and postrm, yes. | 06:31 |
| fabbione | hm ok | 06:31 |
| fabbione | BenC: when is your upload planned? | 06:31 |
| fabbione | jbailey: if you can tell me exactly what i should replace with what, i can do it tomorrow | 06:32 |
| jbailey | fabbione: Yup. Right now it makes a call to mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-$(uname -r) $(uname -r) | 06:33 |
| jbailey | fabbione: It should instead do /usr/sbin/update-initramfs -k $(uname -r) -u -t | 06:34 |
| jbailey | fabbione: At pruge time, it currently just rm's the initramfs. | 06:34 |
| jbailey | fabbione: It should instead do /sbin/update-initramfs -k $(uname -r) -d | 06:34 |
| fabbione | my $ret = system("$ramdisk " . | 06:35 |
| fabbione | ($mkimage ? "-m '$mkimage' " : "") . | 06:35 |
| fabbione | "-o $initrd_path.new $modules_base/$version"); | 06:35 |
| fabbione | this is postinst | 06:35 |
| fabbione | ramdisk = mkinitramfs | 06:35 |
| BenC | tomorrow | 06:35 |
| BenC | jbailey: if you explain to me how to use it properly, I'll do it this time | 06:35 |
| fabbione | BenC: at what time + o -? | 06:36 |
| fabbione | because infinity is planning a l-r-m upload to fix some bugs | 06:36 |
| BenC | fabbione: probably late, 17:00 EST | 06:36 |
| fabbione | ok | 06:36 |
| jbailey | fabbione: What appends the kernel version to that call? | 06:36 |
| jbailey | Oh, duh, sorry. | 06:36 |
| jbailey | Last line. | 06:36 |
| fabbione | hmmm | 06:37 |
| jbailey | fabbione: So I guess something like my $ret = system("/usr/sbin/update-initramfs -u -t -k " . "$version"); | 06:38 |
| fabbione | the problem is that mkimage and module_base | 06:38 |
| fabbione | yes.. i got to that already... | 06:38 |
| jbailey | That mkimage is just ignored on initramfs anyway. | 06:38 |
| fabbione | but it will remove 2 bits from that code | 06:38 |
| jbailey | There's no userful value that -m can have. | 06:38 |
| jbailey | It used to be possible to choose cramfs of ext2. | 06:38 |
| jbailey | With initramfs it's always cpio | 06:38 |
| fabbione | yes, but who says the user is not using ramdisk=/path/to/mkinitrd ? | 06:38 |
| fabbione | what if he hardcoded initramfs | 06:39 |
| jbailey | fabbione: Yeah, the compatability case sould probably be kept in case someone needs the old initrd stuff or whatever. | 06:39 |
| fabbione | in /etc/kernel.img or whatever crappy conf file we use | 06:39 |
| fabbione | jbailey: how badly is this change needed? | 06:39 |
| jbailey | fabbione: Without it usplash and friends can't update on their own. | 06:40 |
| infinity | Will the new kernel upload involve an ABI bump? | 06:40 |
| jbailey | fabbione: I don't think anyone would really notice if it weren't there, honest, although for a while Matt had marked it as preview-critical. | 06:40 |
| fabbione | infinity: apparently yes | 06:40 |
| jbailey | I had update-initramfs in time for that, but then he said not to worry about it for preview. | 06:40 |
| jbailey | and hasn't asked since. | 06:41 |
| infinity | Oh, kay. Well, I can hold off on l-r-m, or I can just upload twice. No big deal. | 06:41 |
| fabbione | infinity: i would prefer 2 uploads | 06:41 |
| fabbione | infinity: unleash the bug fixes | 06:41 |
| fabbione | bump the abi is easy and BenC can do it | 06:41 |
| infinity | Yeah, s'why I'm still up. ;) | 06:41 |
| fabbione | jbailey: i am thiniking.. | 06:41 |
| jbailey | fabbione: Either way. But given that I didn't get it right last time without any logic changes, I'm not comfortable doing the change myself. | 06:42 |
| infinity | Letting BenC do the ABI bump removes me from the "you touched it last" maintenance assignment, which is a bonus. | 06:42 |
| fabbione | jbailey: last time it was only a typo dude! | 06:42 |
| jbailey | fabbione: You made it sound like I had fubard your baz setup... =) | 06:43 |
| fabbione | jbailey: eh no... | 06:43 |
| fabbione | kernel-package (8.135ubuntu4) breezy; urgency=low | 06:43 |
| fabbione | * Add a simple cosmetic change to the kernel postinst. | 06:43 |
| fabbione | -- Fabio M. Di Nitto <fabbione@ubuntu.com> Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:53:44 +0200 | 06:43 |
| fabbione | kernel-package (8.135ubuntu3) breezy; urgency=low | 06:43 |
| fabbione | * New variable in /etc/kernel-img.conf: ramdisk | 06:43 |
| fabbione | Allows the admin to choose a different program than | 06:43 |
| fabbione | /usr/sbin/mkinitrd for initrd generation. | 06:43 |
| fabbione | Note: Must take the same arguments as mkinitrd. | 06:43 |
| fabbione | -- Jeff Bailey <jbailey@ubuntu.com> Wed, 8 Jun 2005 01:47:00 +0000 | 06:43 |
| fabbione | 8.135ubuntu3 <- your upload | 06:43 |
| fabbione | 8.135ubuntu4 <- my upload to cover your error :) | 06:44 |
| fabbione | how can that be the "world is falling down because you suck" changelog :) | 06:44 |
| jbailey | You go easy on me so often ;) | 06:44 |
| === fabbione powers up the sodomotron | ||
| === fabbione wArMs Up ThE CaPs L0cK | ||
| fabbione | ;) | 06:45 |
| jbailey | *g* | 06:45 |
| fabbione | ok i think that we need to retain full backwards compatibility | 06:46 |
| === jbailey scratches his head to remember how to do per-arch stuff in CDBS. | ||
| jbailey | The !@#$ing author should write some damned docs one day... | 06:46 |
| fabbione | meaning that i need to check if we are going for the default update-initramfs | 06:46 |
| fabbione | or calling something else | 06:46 |
| jbailey | fabbione: I also don't know how this intersects with custom kernels. | 06:46 |
| fabbione | HMMMM | 06:47 |
| jbailey | fabbione: I've seen a few comments that people doing that have run into initramfs not supporting the -m option. | 06:47 |
| jbailey | fabbione: So far I"ve been able to get away with just telling them "Don't do that." *g* | 06:47 |
| === fabbione deffer the change to dapper | ||
| fabbione | kthxbye | 06:47 |
| jbailey | Suits me fine. | 06:47 |
| fabbione | perfect | 06:47 |
| jbailey | Hmm | 06:47 |
| === jbailey thinks for a sec. | ||
| jbailey | Just have to make sure that usplash does it's love before the kernel is updated. | 06:48 |
| jbailey | That way upgrades to breezy actually get it. | 06:48 |
| fabbione | jbailey: it does now... | 06:48 |
| fabbione | i did test hoary -> breezy yesterday.. | 06:48 |
| jbailey | Does it? How is that promised? | 06:48 |
| fabbione | but i can retest it again | 06:48 |
| fabbione | dunno.. i didn't really pay attention to it | 06:48 |
| jbailey | I know Colin did an installer hack. | 06:48 |
| fabbione | DEB_MAKE_INVOKE = make -C $(DEB_BUILDDIR) $(DEB_MAKE_ENVVARS) | 06:48 |
| fabbione | -> | 06:48 |
| fabbione | DEB_MAKE_INVOKE = make CC=gcc-3.3 -C $(DEB_BUILDDIR) $(DEB_MAKE_ENVVARS) | 06:49 |
| fabbione | and don't forget the B-D :) | 06:49 |
| fabbione | jbailey: you can just change that to look like: | 06:49 |
| fabbione | DEB_MAKE_INVOKE = make CC=$(CC) -C $(DEB_BUILDDIR) $(DEB_MAKE_ENVVARS) | 06:49 |
| fabbione | and set CC=gcc by dafault | 06:49 |
| fabbione | for sparc you set CC=gcc-3.3 | 06:49 |
| fabbione | that should work | 06:50 |
| jbailey | CC is already gcc by default, I think. | 06:50 |
| fabbione | and you can test it locally | 06:50 |
| fabbione | just add it.. never be too sure | 06:50 |
| fabbione | it's one redundant line in the worst case | 06:50 |
| jbailey | It was the ifeq ($(DEB_HOST_ARCH),sparc) that I was having trouble remembering. | 06:50 |
| fabbione | jbailey: if you want i can do it | 06:50 |
| jbailey | fabbione: nah, I have a parisc patch for it to that I Was holding for the sparc upload. | 06:50 |
| fabbione | DEB_HOST_GNU_CPU := $(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_GNU_CPU) | 06:51 |
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| fabbione | ifeq "$(DEB_HOST_GNU_CPU)" "sparc" | 06:51 |
| fabbione | CC = gcc-3.3 | 06:51 |
| fabbione | endif | 06:51 |
| jbailey | I prefer to do it by arch rather than CPU. | 06:51 |
| jbailey | CPU types change too easily. | 06:51 |
| fabbione | ok | 06:51 |
| jbailey | ifeq($(DEB_HOST_ARCH),sparc) | 06:51 |
| jbailey | CC=gcc-3.3 | 06:51 |
| jbailey | endif | 06:51 |
| fabbione | well it's frigging late | 06:51 |
| fabbione | BenC: please be sure to commit everything in baz so tomorrow morning i can test build | 06:52 |
| fabbione | ok i am off for a while | 06:53 |
| fabbione | i might pass by later | 06:53 |
| lamont | BenC: have you had any time to give ia64 some love? | 06:56 |
| lamont | not DEB_BUILD_ARCH??? | 06:57 |
| lamont | jbailey: ^^^ | 06:57 |
| jbailey | lamont: Have I got them backwards? | 06:57 |
| jbailey | I don't care what arch is building it if it's cross compiling... | 06:57 |
| lamont | build is what you're building, host is where you're running | 06:57 |
| jbailey | Really? | 06:57 |
| BenC | lamont: none :( | 06:57 |
| jbailey | That's backwards to how ./configure does it. =( | 06:58 |
| lamont | if I build hppa binaries on sparc, BUILD==hppa, HOST=sparc | 06:58 |
| lamont | really | 06:58 |
| lamont | I could be completely wrong, mind you | 06:58 |
| jbailey | Yeah, build is the machine you're building on. host is where it will run, and target is what it should produce binaries for (for gcc and a canadian cross) | 06:58 |
| === jbailey looks and the dpkg-architecture page | ||
| jbailey | DEB_BUILD_ARCH | 06:59 |
| jbailey | The Debian architecture of the build machine. | 06:59 |
| jbailey | Useful | 06:59 |
| lamont | yeah. and _HOST_ == 'of the host machine' | 06:59 |
| lamont | so don't mind me | 07:00 |
| lamont | jbailey: did you make time to pester #parisc about linux32 love? | 07:00 |
| lamont | (yet, that is.) | 07:00 |
| jbailey | lamont: I talked about it in there | 07:05 |
| jbailey | (Why, are you watching my talk with bdale in #debian-boot ? *g*) | 07:05 |
| jbailey | lamont: Right now the personality stuff has been used for a bunch of signal handling bits. | 07:06 |
| jbailey | lamont: ppc and sparc used a thread identifer for that instead. | 07:06 |
| jbailey | That leaves the personality syscall free for munging the uname output | 07:06 |
| jbailey | If I were to do the uame munging output right now, all 32 bit binaries would return parisc, and all 64bit binaries would return parisc64, not ideal. =) | 07:07 |
| lamont | nah - was just wondering if you'd made headway | 07:07 |
| lamont | ah, that's what the thread-specific crap was, eh? | 07:08 |
| jbailey | Basically some. I know what needs to be done, and I eiter need to fire up my a500 now to try it or find a remote serial console/reboot setup. | 07:08 |
| jbailey | bdale's j5k has such a setup, and I'm basically the only one who uses it. | 07:08 |
| BenC | how do I get back a file that I did baz rm on? | 07:12 |
| jbailey | In bzr, I just 'bzr revert FILE', dunno if baz has the same. | 07:13 |
| BenC | doesn't seem to | 07:15 |
| jbailey | Hmm, jblack is 10 hours idle. I usually poke him if I'm forced to use baz and can't remember a command. =) | 07:18 |
| BenC | there's baz undo | 07:18 |
| BenC | but that complains about the file not existing (which is my problem :) | 07:19 |
| jbailey | Try touching it and doing it? | 07:20 |
| BenC | baz undo works | 07:23 |
| BenC | if I undo the whole tree, and then re-apply the changes | 07:23 |
| BenC | a little clunky, but it works | 07:26 |
| infinity | A little clunky? | 07:26 |
| infinity | You're so terribly polite. :) | 07:27 |
| BenC | hehe | 07:27 |
| BenC | lamont? | 07:39 |
| lamont | BenC: you were mumbling something about maybe playing with your ia64 box... | 07:40 |
| lamont | I was wondering if you had any more luck in actually doing that than I have. | 07:41 |
| zul | hmm...what did i miss? | 07:46 |
| lamont | btw, I wish that the aironet driver didn't come up with 'tsunami' as the SSID by default... | 07:46 |
| mjg59 | Hahahaha | 07:48 |
| lamont | mjg59: feh | 07:50 |
| BenC | lamont: nah, I I'm in the middle of moving, so I've no time atm | 07:56 |
| BenC | lamont: is there an ia64 I can login to though? | 07:56 |
| BenC | mjg59: all but that last patch is in baz right now, I'll put that one in later after I make sure things are building ok as-is | 07:56 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Which is the last one? The HP laptop thing? | 07:57 |
| BenC | mjg59: yeah | 08:30 |
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| BenC | is there a quick way to take a kernel and make a bootable (net inst?) cd image? | 08:58 |
| fabbione | BenC: not exactly quickly but it can be done | 09:03 |
| fabbione | you need to store the kernel udebs in a local repo | 09:04 |
| fabbione | and build d-i telling it to use that repo too | 09:04 |
| fabbione | that will give you the image | 09:04 |
| BenC | probably too much trouble to test this one patch | 09:06 |
| fabbione | hmm mostlikely | 09:06 |
| fabbione | did you fix the patch in the repo? | 09:06 |
| BenC | yes, the repo is buildable now | 09:07 |
| BenC | i386 has almost completed | 09:07 |
| BenC | the last two patches I have don't touch anything sparc related, so a test now would be fine | 09:08 |
| fabbione | perfect | 09:08 |
| zul | this is the last 2.6.12 isnt it? | 09:11 |
| fabbione | zul: mostlikely yes | 09:11 |
| zul | wohoo... | 09:12 |
| fabbione | BenC: did you already coordinate with elmo/Kamion/mdz to bump the abi? | 09:12 |
| BenC | zul? | 09:17 |
| BenC | fabbione: not yet, right now I'm making sure this will actually happen, which I should know within the next hour | 09:17 |
| BenC | emailed kernel-team, which I'm sure mdz is on, but not sure about elmo or Kamion | 09:18 |
| fabbione | BenC: no they are not.. better you CC them | 09:18 |
| fabbione | it's important that they are around (at least one of them) to assist you with NEW love on katie | 09:19 |
| zul | BenC: hmm? | 09:19 |
| BenC | zul: I got the buslogic MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE taken care of | 09:19 |
| zul | oh you did? damn.. | 09:19 |
| BenC | I didn't bother rewriting the probe stuff, since it doesn't really need to support hotplug | 09:20 |
| zul | me either... | 09:20 |
| BenC | just the device table to hotplug scripts will load the module | 09:20 |
| zul | where did you place the struct? | 09:20 |
| BenC | for instance, you wont be able to plug in a pcmcia buslogic card (if there is such a thing) | 09:20 |
| BenC | near the init function | 09:20 |
| BenC | doesn't matter, the MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE() exports it no matter where it is | 09:21 |
| BenC | zul: do you have a vmware 4.5 install to test with? | 09:22 |
| zul | will have one tonight though | 09:22 |
| BenC | cool, patch is commited, so if you can test, I'd be grateful | 09:22 |
| zul | okie dokie | 09:23 |
| fabbione | BenC: updating the changelog to remove some obsolete entries my side | 09:23 |
| BenC | ok | 09:24 |
| BenC | ok, all my patches are in now | 09:30 |
| BenC | I still need to do one more thing, and that's get the ABI file in the .deb's | 09:30 |
| BenC | it may be tomorrow morning when I get this done fabbione | 09:31 |
| BenC | the upload that is | 09:31 |
| BenC | so you may want to do the sparc build now and let me know when you get up if it went ok | 09:31 |
| fabbione | BenC: ok.. | 09:32 |
| fabbione | i might not be around when you start | 09:32 |
| BenC | what's your time now? | 09:32 |
| fabbione | i have school from 14:00 UTC till 19:00 UTC | 09:32 |
| fabbione | it's 21:30 | 09:32 |
| BenC | well, if you email me when you get up in the morning, that will be well before I get up | 09:32 |
| fabbione | sure | 09:32 |
| fabbione | i usually wake up around 04:00 UTC | 09:33 |
| BenC | how long does your ultra take to do a build? | 09:33 |
| fabbione | sometimes earlier than that | 09:33 |
| fabbione | a couple of hours usually | 09:33 |
| BenC | I need to get my e3k running, 6 cpu's and 6gigs, it zips through builds | 09:33 |
| fabbione | but i am planning to start the build now, if i get baz to checkout :) | 09:33 |
| BenC | I wouldn't mind making it a buildd either | 09:33 |
| fabbione | BenC: that would rock so much | 09:34 |
| mjg59 | BenC: If you have an x86 test build, I'll happily test it on all the machines I have here | 09:34 |
| BenC | mjg59: ok, it's almost done I think | 09:34 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Cool | 09:34 |
| BenC | building k8 now, so just about there | 09:38 |
| mjg59 | Excellent | 09:39 |
| zul | mjg59: the ndiswrapper stuff for amd64 is there as well | 09:41 |
| BenC | yeah, I got that in | 09:41 |
| zul | so we would need the user space tools for amd64 | 09:42 |
| mjg59 | I talked to elmo about those - they ought to have been sorted | 09:43 |
| zul | goodie | 09:55 |
| zul | later folks | 09:58 |
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| fabbione | applying patch arch-i386-kernel-hp-laptop-reboot-fix to ./ ... failed. | 10:08 |
| fabbione | make[1] : *** [debian/monolith/patch-2.6.12-9.14] Error 1 | 10:08 |
| fabbione | make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/sparcbuildd/linux-source-2.6.12-2.6.12' | 10:08 |
| fabbione | BenC: the patches still fails to apply | 10:08 |
| fabbione | i really need to get some sleep | 10:08 |
| fabbione | BenC: if you feel lucky.. there is a kernel chroot on vultus5 with everything ready :) | 10:09 |
| fabbione | good night | 10:10 |
| BenC | it's fixed | 10:17 |
| BenC | update again | 10:17 |
| Mithrandir | so, is it known that the current kernel fucks up ipw2200? | 10:32 |
| BenC | mjg59: deb's are in my ~/ on concordia | 10:37 |
| BenC | Mithrandir: should be fixed in 9.14 | 10:37 |
| mjg59 | BenC: I don't have access to concordia | 10:46 |
| BenC | let me put it on ppl | 10:46 |
| mjg59 | Ta | 10:46 |
| BenC | mjg59: kernels are going to be at http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels/ | 11:29 |
| BenC | just keep an eye out in the next 10-15 minutes | 11:29 |
| mjg59 | Ok, ta | 11:31 |
| BenC | done | 12:01 |
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