=== herzi [n=herzi@d002095.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial2-239.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:21] Nafallo: I don't even find it in packages.d.o [12:22] hmm [12:22] bad :-P [12:24] doko: rrdtool: Depends: librrd2 but it is not going to be installed [12:24] doko: librrd2: Depends: ttf-dejavu but it is not installable [12:25] tseng: it's beeing handled -> see main inclusion queue [12:25] doko: rock on, thanks. === ajmitch stabs internet explorer for good measure [12:29] ajmitch another one from koke ;) [12:29] :) [12:33] when I try to recover my pass on REVU I get "None" [12:33] python error, I guess [12:33] any idea on that? [12:46] siretart: around? === shackan [n=shackan@host251-92.pool871.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hypatia [n=mary@adsl-66-203.swiftdsl.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamessan [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dsl-084-059-070-048.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:06] Do we still not have the myth plugin stuff? === rbelem [n=rodrigo@200.246.97.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] bddebian: compile it with gcc 3.4 from mdz repo [02:10] bddebian: and i bet it will work fine === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:16] tseng: Well fix em man :-) [02:19] bddebian: that would be like work. [02:19] bddebian: ajmitch has a guy that says he is working on it [02:23] Oh good, then I won't :-) === rbelem [n=rodrigo@200.246.97.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium has not laughed so hard in some time: http://ubuntulinux.nl/quotes?minid=3 [02:35] hahaha === _tonio [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:44] hehehe === _tonio [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] doh, did I miss the meeting? [02:51] Yep :-( [02:51] :( [02:53] Egads, do we still have gcc3.3? [02:54] why not? [02:55] gcc-3.4 we have [02:55] i think 3.3 is there too [02:58] Hmm, ghc-cvs build-deps and deps on gcc-3.3 === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jtan325 [n=jtan325@c-24-22-163-23.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@p5487F24A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:17] python (>= 1.5)?? I'd have to say ghc-cvs is a little old?? :-) === sjg [n=jason@adsl-67-117-27-129.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-229-207-124.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun [n=crimsun@pdpc/supporter/silver/crimsun] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:28] can I get the latest released source from upstream to fix a package with unmetdeps? [03:28] How do I fix: "dpkg-deb: control directory has bad permissions..." ?? [03:29] bmonty_laptop: Upstream, upstream or Debian upstream? :-) [03:29] upstream upstream [03:29] :) [03:29] if that's the only way to fix it, and it doesn't break anything, I don't see why not === bddebian either [03:34] bddebian: did you see the mozilla-locale stuff I updated? [03:34] LaserJock: Aye, thx [03:34] is that ok? [03:34] Yep [03:38] It looked like mozilla-locale-zh-tw would be easy to fix and I don't think the Debian packages will be updated anytime soon so would it be good to make an ubuntu package? === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:42] ajmitch: You around? [03:43] LaserJock: It probably can't hurt [03:43] nope [03:43] ajmitch: Aren't you the zope-meister? === Tonio- [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio- is away: Away at the moment === Tonio- is back. [03:46] Fuck, I give up, I'm going back to video games and pr0n :-) [03:46] I do some zope.. [03:46] you do dope? [03:47] Well I thought I "fixed" zope-popyda but it doesn't install. failed deps on python2.4-popy [03:47] gee....you couldn't see that one coming [03:49] bddebian: and..? :) [03:49] you want me to look at it instead? [03:52] You gonna fix python2.4-popy? :-) [03:52] maybe [03:52] Well then I will upload zope-popyda ;-P [03:53] if you want to take the blame === Burgundavia hugs ajmitch for gobby [03:54] ajmitch: Blame? [03:54] Burgundavia: it got through NEW? [03:54] ajmitch, not yet [03:54] ajmitch, but it is there, which is good [03:54] ok [03:55] ajmitch, ok, building now by the looks of it [03:55] so it got accepted, so it's through NEW [03:55] oh goody, he synced my other stuff :) [03:59] hey, I think 2423 should get rejected [03:59] ajmitch: Take the blame for what?? [04:00] bddebian: for zope-popyda [04:00] What blame? [04:00] whatever is coming for you :) [04:01] where do you guys go to find out what stuff is being synced or uploaded? [04:02] breezy-changes [04:03] the breezy-changes mailing list [04:03] ok, cool [04:04] ajmitch: Do you enjoy talking in circles? :-) [04:04] yes [04:04] bmonty_laptop: I agree reject or close 2423. It works for me too [04:04] you said you thought you fixed it, but it wasn't really fixed [04:05] bddebian: the other thing is that zope products need python 2.3 [04:05] Well I'm not going to "upload" it until it does work. But I would need python2.x-popy anyhow [04:05] I'd like to know why gcrontab segfaults on his system, but without debug symbols his stacktrace is useless === ajmitch woudl vote to morgue zope-popyda [04:12] good night === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [04:13] Well it builds and installs now. Not that I know that it "works" [04:13] it won't [04:13] or at least it won't work well [04:13] *sigh* [04:13] it's been removed from debian [04:13] it was meant for python 2.1, and zope 2.6 === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat [i=lathiat@gasp.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:16] bddebian: do you have a crontab file your user on the box you tested gcrontab with? [04:17] bmonty: No [04:18] ajmitch: OK, what about zope-cmfpgforum? Same deal? [04:20] probably [04:20] it's been sitting broken for > 6 months === ajmitch hasn't checked the zope team lists for it though === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-64-26-170-32.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio- [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:41] Hey, our bug numbers are going up not down.. :-( [04:41] that is what always happens [04:42] bddebian: I just closed 2 [04:42] ajmitch: Good man :-) [04:43] can we close a bug as unreproducable? === jorgp3 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial2-226.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin_ant [n=marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:03] hi guys === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-82-32.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:03] I got a pretty strange problem [05:03] 1. my CPU is Athlon [05:03] That's strange ;-) [05:04] marcin_ant, #ubuntu for support [05:04] 2. and the strange thing is that when I want to build some package [05:04] then I get i486-linux-gnu [05:04] that's perfectly normal [05:04] What would you expect to get? [05:04] as DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE (dpkg-architecture) [05:05] ajmitch, well i386? i686? k7 ? but definetly not i486.... [05:06] ajmitch, sorry it was for bddebian [05:07] bddebian, I would expect to get i386 or i686 but not i486... [05:08] I would expect to get i486 [05:09] ajmitch, why? === sjg [n=jason@adsl-67-117-27-129.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:09] because that's the architecture that things are built for [05:09] i386 just didn't have a couple of things needed [05:09] ajmitch, ok but afaik k7 cpu is not related with i486 at all [05:10] yes it is [05:10] it's i486 compatible, so packages are built for that arch [05:10] ajmitch, on almost every distro you get things compiled for i386 for compatibility or i586 like in mandrake or i686 on most modern distros [05:11] ajmitch, so k7 packages are compiled for i486? [05:11] yes [05:12] can you imagine the amount of diskspace required if each package was compiled for i486, 586, i686, P3/P4, K7, etc [05:12] ajmitch, hmm I didn' [05:12] t [05:12] know about it === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-58-120.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:12] ajmitch: 8 or so times what they use now? [05:12] there was a conscious decision not to build for i386 for compatibility [05:13] Amaranth: probably more, given other variants :) [05:13] ajmitch, sure but there are packages that are compiled for k7 (in fact kernel only) [05:13] sure [05:13] but they're the exception [05:13] packages can have autodetecting code themselves if they need it [05:14] ajmitch, anyway if I rebuild packages on my machine I could expect some optimalization for my cpu [05:14] ajmitch, and I thought that athlon is more i686 compatible.. but if it is i486 then ok [05:14] well the instruction ordering, etc is done for a modern cpu [05:14] ajmitch: I'm sorry to nag... but (of course there's a but) what's the status of python-nevow? [05:15] yeah, ubuntu packages are built to work on an older CPU but tuned to run better on modern CPUs [05:15] hypatia: elmo didn't reply with details of my key, but I'll try & upload again :) [05:15] marcin_ant: it's a question that comes up quite often :) [05:15] Burgundavia, btw don't send ppl away - please listen the question first ;) [05:15] ajmitch, about optimalization? [05:15] ajmitch: how annoying for you :( [05:16] marcin_ant: yes [05:16] hypatia: not really [05:16] hypatia: I'll put it on my todo list for things to look at after work tonight [05:16] ajmitch, propably questions from gentoo users ;) they love it [05:18] ajmitch, in fact all these cpu/arch/dpkg things are pretty weird [05:18] like why we don't compile everything with -O9 -fultra-fast, etc? [05:19] ajmitch, for example I build package with libraries compiled to i486 subdir but packages are *i386.deb [05:19] yes [05:19] hysterical raisins [05:19] ajmitch, pretty weird but I'm too tired to talk about it today [05:19] sure, and I'm not the best person to answer [05:19] ajmitch, it's 5am here and I need to go to bed [05:20] ajmitch, night [05:20] night === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-229-207-124.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Tonio- [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-41-63.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === markuman [n=markuman@p509261B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === [Chameleon] [n=Paul@000f660c9c52.click-network.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:13] Heh, if I change LIBS="-L$x_libraries" to LIBS="$LIBS", prokyon3 builds fine. WTF? [06:31] Gnight folks [06:46] hi [06:47] launchpad sent me a message to validate my GPG jey [06:47] key [06:47] I can't decrypt it :-( === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === izaac [n=izaac@unaffiliated/izaac] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [i=foobar@i577B0147.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:28] morning === Lathiat [i=lathiat@gasp.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Lathiat [i=lathiat@gasp.bur.st] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:39] brb === dholbach_ [i=foobar@i577B0147.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:51] hi [08:56] good morning hub__ :) === maradong [n=bhentges@vodsl-3665.vo.lu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-123-240.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mvo [n=egon@ip181.135.1511I-CUD12K-01.ish.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:37] boy am I glad there's a copy of udev ubuntu12 in /var/cache/apt/archives/ [09:38] hi all! if someone has a bit of time, it would be cool if he would have a look at efax-gtk. we have 3.0.2, debian 3.0.4. I got a mail asking if we would consider updating to 3.0.4. it would be nice if someone could have a look. === shawarma [i=shawarma@dolomit-ext.tnb.aau.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:41] <\sh> mvo: hmmm...i can't test it... [09:41] morning all [09:41] <\sh> or is it only a frontend to some fax backend? [09:41] <\sh> btw...heise.de reports about skubuntu and edubuntu [09:41] <\sh> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/64089 [09:42] \sh: AFAIK it's only a frontend for efax [09:43] <\sh> mvo: ok..I'll test the compileness ,-) [09:44] \sh: looking over the changelog would be nice as well :) but I guess universe is not quite that deeply frozen yet? [09:44] \sh: It turns out vpnc isn't a broken as it seemed... I just fixed the ref to vpnc-script. All the other weird errors kind of went away. [09:45] <\sh> mvo: no...but u fixed some g++-4 issues in 3.0.2 so I think it should be fixed..if not..I will fix it [09:45] <\sh> shawarma: can u provide me the patches as debdiff? [09:46] <\sh> shawarma: so i can fix it directly in the package [09:46] i take the dog out... bbl [09:46] \sh: Er... I don't know. How do I do that? [09:47] <\sh> shawarma: apt-get source vpnc [09:47] <\sh> and incorporate the changes [09:47] <\sh> add your changes to debian/changelog [09:47] Done [09:48] And then? === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:55] hello [09:57] \sh: right, I've made a debdiff of it... Should I mail it to you? [10:05] hi, ivoks. [10:05] <\sh> shawarma: yeah...sh@sourcecode.de [10:06] Ok.. I'm curious... Why is that easier than going through revu? [10:06] I was under the impression that the people with upload privileges could just click a button i revu and magic would happen.. [10:07] <\sh> shawarma: not now :) it will be integrated in the future ;) ,-) [10:07] shawarma: revu should be an improvement to putting links to your packages on the wiki [10:07] <\sh> but I would like to do it manually...cause I'm responsible when I sign other packages [10:07] \sh: Ok. The thing is that I've already uploaded it to REVU... Can you remove it from there? [10:08] <\sh> shawarma: oh...the package? i will grab it from there...np [10:08] shawarma: make a comment under your upload, every revu admin can nuke uploads then [10:08] morning, sh, btw ;) [10:09] <\sh> hey siretart :) [10:09] <\sh> but first I need a cup of coffee and a smoke ;) [10:09] <\sh> brb [10:17] coffee, good idea, brb ;) === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:22] <\sh> back [10:22] good idea [10:23] <\sh> mvo: ok with u to sync from debian (efax-gtk) and overwrite the ubuntu changes? (it's only your g++-4 patch, but this went upstream) [10:23] but I should get sleep first [10:23] \sh: sure, if 3.0.4 looks good [10:25] <\sh> install tests are running now ;) [10:25] dholbach: you run amd64, don't you? [10:26] <\sh> looks ok [10:26] <\sh> but I can't test it with efax. [10:26] <\sh> i'll request a sync === herzi [n=herzi@d002095.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:32] <\sh> shawarma: can u make dpatches from your changes and put them in debian/patches? please adjust as well 00list in debian/patches thx :) === sjg [n=jason@adsl-67-117-27-129.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:36] \sh: What's the point of the 00list file? [10:37] \sh: It should just contain the filename of my patch, right? [10:38] <\sh> shawarma: yes :) [10:39] <\sh> please use dpatch-edit-patch to get the other patches as well inside your change...dpatch-edit-patch

=== j^ [n=j@e178054052.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:42] Hmm.... I didn't add the last-dpatch-filename-to-apply argument, but it looks ok.. [10:43] I've uploaded it to revu. I'm behind this annoying proxy, so it's kind of hard for me to send e-mail, but ftp is ok. [10:43] hub__: yes, i do, but i have a problem with that box atm - do you want me to check something? [10:43] dholbach: just wondering if I was not mistaken with the error you got with my package :-/ [10:43] ah, hm :/ [10:44] <\sh> shawarma: ok...grabbing it :) [10:44] \sh: What's the point of that last argument to dpatch-edit-patch? [10:44] if only I had an amd64 [10:45] hub__: you may want to talk to Mithrandir [10:45] why does he have? [10:48] <\sh> shawarma: it takes the last patch which should be applied in the row.. [10:49] \sh: And why wouldn't that always be the last one? [10:50] <\sh> shawarma: honestly..I was thinking all the time, that dpatch-edit-patch is using 00list..to get the patch queue [10:51] <\sh> shawarma: but I don't know..I dislike dpatch [10:51] ....then why did you tell me to use it? [10:51] <\sh> shawarma: because I used it all the time ;) [10:52] <\sh> shawarma: or better to say...if u want to integrate a patch in bettwen the start and the end..u can use this ;) [10:52] <\sh> shawarma: u r whitelisted for katie and -changes? [10:54] \sh: I have no idea what that means. [10:54] \sh: Who or what is katie? [10:55] the buildd [10:55] it will send you a receipt mail === sjg [n=jason@adsl-67-117-27-129.dsl.chic01.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [10:57] I see.. and being whitelisted for katie and -changes mean to be able to throw stuff at buildd and have it build stuff for me? [10:58] <\sh> shawarma: uploaded :) [10:58] <\sh> shawarma: no..but u see the katie mails that the source is accepted [10:58] <\sh> and on -changes we can read your name [10:59] <\sh> well...it's accepted and u r not whitelisted..please send a mail with your email address from changelog files please check wiki.ubuntu.com/Uploads how to be whitelisted [11:01] dholbach: ok [11:01] off to bed now [11:02] hub__: good night [11:06] <\sh> siretart: IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/srv/revu1/removals.txt' [11:06] <\sh> siretart: when I want to nuke ;) [11:09] \sh: I can't add myself to the whitelist.. I get an error from Ubuntus mail server. Who should i bug about this? [11:10] <\sh> shawarma: no..u have to send it to upload or uploads@ubuntulinux.org... [11:10] \sh: That's what I did. === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa221.7.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:11] <\sh> shawarma: ping elmo and ask him what happened..he is the whitelist manager :) [11:11] \sh: The address is apparantly rewritten to archive@durville.ubuntu.com which in turn is unknown. [11:11] \sh: Great. Thanks. [11:14] \sh: damn. permission problems.. [11:14] -rw-r--rw- 1 siretart www-data 426 Sep 17 06:54 removals.txt [11:14] wtf? somethings weird going on.. [11:14] <\sh> siretart: hmmm [11:14] <\sh> who changed this [11:14] fixed [11:15] <\sh> siretart: thx :) === shawarma [i=shawarma@dolomit-ext.tnb.aau.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:52] \sh: Do you happen to know where elmo is? Geographically, that is.. If he's in the US there's not much point in trying to reach him now. [11:53] UK, London [11:54] Nafallo: Hehe.. His away message says "sleep".. It's 10:54 in London right now. :-D === koke [n=koke@169.Red-217-127-113.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:55] I believe he's sleep-pattern have crashed then ;-) [11:55] shawarma, he is usually up until 3 or 4 am [11:55] ogra: Oh, that explains. 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[01:11] ivoks: udev is b0rken [01:11] ah, ok [01:11] let's do some fingerpointing ;) === Nafallo added that udev is broken to #ubuntu.se's topic ;-) [01:12] <\sh> hmm...wasn't there a new upload? [01:12] \sh: ubuntu13 is broken :-) [01:12] \sh: I've booked my UBZ flights ;) [01:12] ajmitch: cool :) [01:12] ... and that was the "new" upload :-) [01:13] or newest [01:13] <\sh> oh... [01:13] <\sh> hm...will see it this evening when I reboot my laptop ;) === ivoks will not be going to UBZ :( === ajmitch already has issues - indeterminate as to which package is causing X to go wonky on lid close [01:15] ivoks: :( [01:15] ivoks: that's a shame [01:15] I found a really cheap hostel :) [01:15] see foodfight.org/log :) [01:16] even cheaper than the one we know about already? [01:16] ah, same one [01:16] ajmitch: yeah, same one probably [01:16] yeah, well... money is problem [01:16] ivoks: where are you from then? [01:16] Treenaks: croatia [01:17] ivoks: hmm [01:17] but i have to pay universty next year [01:17] 1000euros [01:17] ivoks: hmm... too bad :( [01:17] yeah, i know :( [01:18] i hope i will join you guys on 6.04 === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pool-141-150-143-202.mad.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:19] ivoks: I missed UDU because I couldn't get the time off :( [01:19] ivoks: so not everything's lost [01:19] i don't think it's lost, just won't be joining you in conversations [01:22] <\sh> ajmitch: rock man :) [01:22] ivoks: why not? we have irc :) [01:23] ajmitch: sure on irc :) [01:24] ajmitch: you think there will be bandwidth?! [01:24] Treenaks: more than at UDU, I bet [01:25] ajmitch: UDU had 0 ? :) [01:25] something approximating 0 ;) === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pool-141-150-143-202.mad.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:35] hmm [01:35] my DSL bandwidth monitoring at my ISP has only been functional 4 days this month ;) === ajmitch doesn't have to worry about the 10GB quota when it's broken like that === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487F24A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:47] much easier to not have quota ;-) [01:54] :P [01:54] not all of us live in such countries === shawarma [i=shawarma@dolomit-ext.tnb.aau.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-175.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mitsuhiko [n=blackbir@80.122.201.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === segfault [i=carlos@prognus.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [i=foobar@i577B0147.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xerxas [n=xerxas@35.107.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa221.7.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jamessan|work [n=jamessan@c-24-218-220-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@chello084010027057.chello.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:14] anyone here testing the ltsp feature in breezy ? [03:17] Yagisan: ltsp? [03:18] linux terminal server project [03:18] Yagisan, #edubuntu ;) [03:19] its built around that [03:19] I just won a few pentium 2's off ebay [03:19] thought I'd give them to wife and kids === wickedpuppy [n=wicked@cm200.epsilon164.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:19] and power them off my amd64 beast [03:21] ogra: thanks [03:22] Yagisan, thanks as well, i search eagerly for testers :) === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-118-060.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont [n=lamont@dhcp-sn38-07.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@host-66-202-95-170.spr.choiceone.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:32] <\sh> lamont: u r in germany? Greetings to Martin 'Joey' Schulze ... from a former #linuxger@ircnet member ,-) === bddebian [n=bddebian@user216-178-65-218.netcarrier.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:34] Heya gang [03:35] \sh: he says hi back to you. [03:36] <\sh> lamont: I hope u enjoy your stay in germany :) actually u will have cold nights and warm days this week ;) [03:37] Heya \sh [03:37] <\sh> hey bddebian :) [03:38] slomo_: what do you think about bugzilla #9093? [03:39] hmm... probably can be included... but do we have someone to test it with xmms? i don't use it anymore ;) [03:40] from a quick view over the patch it looks good [03:40] you should have a media mailing list, i could assign the bug to ;) [03:41] there is one ;) [03:41] motumedia@tauware.de [03:41] oh wow === shawarma [i=shawarma@dolomit-ext.tnb.aau.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:42] So who is the autoconf/automake foo Master? [03:42] bddebian: nobody is... but why don't you just ask your question? :P [03:42] slomo: grmbl, bugzilla doesnt like motumedia@tauware,de yet :) [03:43] shawarma: hi... i think you should promote the libmms main inclusion a bit more as it's now finally in universe and people can begin to look at it ;) [03:43] dholbach: just assign it to me so i don't forget it ;) [03:43] hi all, long time no see [03:43] slomo: right [03:43] dholbach: oh wait... xmms is main... forget it ;) [03:43] Well in prokyon3 right before it does AC_CHECK_LIB(z, main, [] , ...) it does $LIBS="-L$x_libraries" and I cannot figure out where x_libraries comes from. [03:43] slomo: Like bitch about it on ubuntu-devel mailing list? === shackan [n=shackan@host172-100.pool8259.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:44] slomo: if you discuss it, i'll sponsor the upload [03:44] In fact, right now it's blank. If I change that line to $LIBS="$LIBS" it compiles fine. [03:44] shawarma: no... like replying to your own mail and saying that it is in universe now ;) [03:44] slomo: Good point. [03:45] <\sh> Oh well... [03:45] bddebian: look at configure --help... there should be something like --with-x-libs or something... give it /usr/lib as parameter... and /usr/include for the x includes === \sh doesn't like the internet anymore === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:46] dholbach: i have not enough time for such stuff currently ;) for dapper maybe... [03:46] \sh: why? what happened? [03:46] <\sh> slomo: I found on www.linuxger.de on the ex-members of this irc channel my old NickName [03:46] slomo: i can imagine [03:47] \sh: and what's so bad about it? [03:47] <\sh> lamont: Tell 'Joey' to change the nickname in front of "Stephan Hermann" into '\sh' please ... the ones standing there is too old ,-) [03:48] dholbach: do you know someone who still uses xmms? [03:48] <\sh> slomo: "FlirtMan - Stephan Hermann" [03:48] slomo: mvo does ;) [03:48] <\sh> it all started 1993 [03:48] \sh: :) [03:48] <\sh> my past kills me sometimes...oh well [03:48] dholbach: ok, i'll try to keep it in mind and ask him when i'm bored ;) [03:49] slomo: what's wrong with xmms? [03:49] \sh: luckily nothing like this exists about me ;) at least i found nothing [03:49] mvo: nothing... but bugzilla #9093 may be worth a thought :) === dereks_ [n=dereks@66.9.7.66] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:50] <\sh> slomo: the good thing from those times were: we didn't need any dating portal sites to meet girls ;-) [03:50] heh [03:50] <\sh> slomo: we just met and had s*x [03:50] <\sh> i mean not in this linuxger channel... [03:53] \sh: hmm, why were the old times always better than today? :P [03:54] <\sh> slomo: oh...those statements are "old farts" behaviour..when I was young my father was telling me this and I said: "Go away, u fool" ..but today...I'm the "old fart" and ah completly OT ;) [03:56] Hey, don't talk about us old farts ;-) [03:58] slomo: #9093 is already fixed. debian-xmms got the patch some months ago and we synced it [03:58] slomo: but thanks for telling :) [03:59] mvo: ok, good to know :) [04:01] slomo: s [04:01] slomo: do we have mms gstreamer plugins? [04:01] dholbach: seb128 tries to get libmms in main for breezy... then we have them ;) [04:01] i see [04:01] #10050 [04:01] is all about it [04:02] dholbach: we agreed that g-p-m should only contain multiverse stuff that will never be in debian as otherwise conflicts may happen and he has to add conflicts/replaces to the gst-plugins package instead of just taking the debian version [04:03] i see [04:03] what about gstreamer0.8-plugins-universe? :-p [04:03] where stuff can be tested [04:03] and we already have such problem :P i want to have wavpack in debian when it matured a bit [04:03] dholbach: same problem ;) [04:04] otherwise i would do it instantly [04:04] want to be on the CC list for 10050? [04:05] already added me there ;) [04:07] python comments are started with #? [04:07] yes (if they're not the hashbang line :)) [04:09] haha... i got launchpad karma for nothing ;) [04:09] (except translations upstream...) [04:09] how does LP verify that this was me and not someone else with my name? [04:12] slomo: Well I got a karma of 378 for nothing ;-P [04:12] what did you do? [04:12] Just closed a bunch of random bugs ;-) [04:16] doko: where is the filebrowser in spe? and why does it nothing when i select default as webbrowser and works when i select for example firefox? ;) [04:17] hmm... insane version number... openoffice.org2-amd64 (1.9.129-0.1ubuntu1-0ubuntu1) [04:22] dholbach: you know something about python? can you tell me how i can do "printf-debugging" in python? ;) i added a print to the relevant part of the sources and it doesn't print anything :( [04:22] slomo: don't know ... [04:23] doko: ok, i'll try to fix the browser stuff... but you don't know where the filebrowser is? hmm... maybe there isn't one? ;) [04:23] <\sh> slomo: what du u want to do? [04:24] \sh: i want to have the contents of one variable... print variableName doesn't work [04:24] it should.. [04:24] <\sh> print "%s" % variable? [04:25] <\sh> slomo: variable must be a python string for "print variable" to work [04:25] it is a string [04:25] <\sh> slomo: u sure? [04:25] <\sh> a python string or something else? [04:26] oh well, you can print also numbers, there's some implicit conversion [04:26] i hope ;) it should contain a filename [04:26] str(variableName) converts to a string, if it's not one already [04:26] <\sh> shackan: truwe [04:26] <\sh> true even [04:27] but it should print some kind of error when it's no string... [04:27] \sh: actually, it can be anything that has a __str__ method. Python will do the conversion for you [04:27] slomo, but you're that that line gets executed ? [04:27] *you're sure, sorry [04:28] shackan: yes... but i have to leave now for some minutes ;) brb [04:28] <\sh> jamessan|work: QString bla; is as well a string, and I can do what ever i want..but print doesn't work..without a str() conversion [04:28] QString? [04:28] <\sh> PyQT ;) [04:28] argh [04:29] so you have to explicitly cast to a python string first ? [04:29] <\sh> yepp [04:29] \sh: well, my simple class of: class Foo(object): def __str__(self): return 'foo' works fine when I print an instance [04:30] <\sh> jamessan|work: the problem is, if the value is not complying to the python string standard (utf8 bla) it won't print...try it with pyqt...it's quite annoying... [04:31] so what strange format are qt strings ? [04:31] <\sh> shackan: utf8 converted c-strings [04:31] <\sh> actually it's more a bytestream ,-) [04:32] if they're utf8 internally, they should work out of the box... [04:33] <\sh> shackan: not at all..as i said it's something else..but not a normal string.. [04:33] ok I don't understand english, sorry, anyway, I like pygtk and wanted to try some pyqt but what you say makes me change idea :) === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax6-099.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax6-099.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089CF56.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-50-88.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont [n=lamont@dhcp-sn38-07.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:12] hi everyone [05:12] Heya mbreit [05:12] lamont: did you look at the scons/ardour-problem on the buildds? [05:15] mbreit: I think I did, but don't remember any more... will look again [05:16] lamont: thanks.... i have now a second package that does not build on the buildd but works fine in my pbuilder... and guess what build-system it uses ;) === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-1339.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont executes sbuild -dbreezy -A ardour_0.9beta29-5ubuntu1 on his laptop, so that he can see the error [05:22] Heya ivoks === ivoks will compare his laptop after windoos installation and same laptop after ubuntu installation [05:26] mbreit: most strange... works for me... scheduled rebuilds for a few minutes hence === GazerWork [n=gazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:28] where is the difference in building it with pbuilder or sbuild? [05:35] OK, is it --with-x-libraries=/foo/bar or --x-libraries=/foo/bar ? === hub__ [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:51] hey all [05:51] Heya spa [05:51] anyone working on fixing prokyon3? [05:52] Err spayne [05:52] lamont: Right now [05:52] lamont: I think I just figured it out [05:52] right [05:52] i wouldl like to become a MOTU [05:52] or a universe package maintainer [05:52] if they are the same thing [05:52] spayne: Go for it :-) [05:53] lamont: Why, you need something? [05:54] well, it's FTBFS [05:54] lamont: I know. It built fine here for me before I uploaded. I will re-upload here in a minute. [05:55] <\sh> re guys [05:55] bddebian: in a clean chroot? [05:55] wb \sh [05:55] <\sh> ogra: ping [05:55] pong [05:55] lamont: Probably not :-( [05:55] where is the best place to start? [05:55] i have never package before [05:55] but keen to learn [05:55]