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FatDarrelXFreeMan, the Redhat/Fedora guys have that in their stock configs12:00
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lampshadesometimes it is /dev/input/mice sometimes12:00
XFreeManFatDarrel, so what should i do12:00
FatDarrelXFreeMan, you should have another pointer setting in your xorg.conf or something12:01
mkyb14it's not listed on bugzilla to report?12:01
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thoreauputicmkyb14: no, you would create a bug report reffering to the package12:02
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XFreeManFatDarrel, ill look for it, thanks anyway12:02
Logtimehi12:02
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thoreauputic*referring12:02
dooglusHerdsmanMarengo: I don't know!  I used to put those lines in /etc/rc.local but I guess that wasn't on ubuntu 'cos it doesn't have that file.12:02
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HerdsmanMarengodang :/12:02
FatDarrelXFreeMan, check this # If the normal CorePointer mouse is not a USB mouse then  this input device can be used in AlwaysCore mode to let youalso use USB mice at the same time.12:03
Logtimesomeone have idea about this 5.1. When using the FTPS or HTTPS protocol, gFTP cannot connect if the remote server uses a self signed certificate.12:03
LogtimeYou must add the public key of your self signed CA to your OpenSSL certs directory. On my Debian box, the OpenSSL certs are installed in /usr/lib/ssl/certs.12:03
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don824chanI totally just installed limewire on my ubuntu. this is so awesome, now i don't have to worry about spyware, malware, viruses, etc...12:04
FatDarrelXFreeMan, you have to have  both sitting on /dev/input/mice and the first one is always in core mode then you can add a usb mouse to get it to work12:04
mkyb14ahh ok this is what i did, used another cdrom to install then plugged in a diff one on restart and it was because of that... so how does ubuntu not recognize new hardware like that12:04
dooglusHerdsmanMarengo: you could do this:  "sudo ln -s ../init.d/mystuff /etc/rc2.d/S99mystuff" and then make a script in /etc/init.d/mystuff which runs your stuff.12:04
FatDarrelXFreeMan, I have two input mouse devices that's all take care :)12:05
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dooglusHerdsmanMarengo: but there must be a more obvious way to do it.12:05
XFreeManFatDarrel, thanks12:05
thoreauputicHerdsmanMarengo: if it's just a one-liner you can append it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh before the "exit" line12:06
dooglusaah!  that's where it is!  :)12:06
TokenBadwell guess electricsheep will not install with kde12:06
thoreauputicHerdsmanMarengo: of course if it's an X app that won't do anything...12:06
dooglusthoreauputic: what does the colon do in front of the "exit 0" in that script?12:06
ninjafishanyone have a Synaptics Touchpad?12:06
thoreauputicdooglus: I don't know :)12:07
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HerdsmanMarengoit's not x, so that'll work12:07
HerdsmanMarengothanks12:07
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thoreauputicHerdsmanMarengo: OK :) You're welcome12:08
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dooglusthoreauputic: it does nothing apparently12:08
up2zion22anyone who can help me install printer locally. i was able to use it last week but when i reinstalled again it wont work but work again but work with xp. i dont to go back to xp12:09
thoreauputicdooglus: how did you establish that? (curious)12:09
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dooglusthoreauputic: "man bash" (evil grin)12:09
dooglus: [arguments]  No  effect; the command  does nothing  beyond expanding arguments and performing any specified redirections.  A zero exit code is returned.12:09
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thoreauputicdooglus: aha! hehehe12:09
KnelixHow do you pronounce Ubuntu again?12:10
Seveasooh boon too12:10
dooglusooo bun too12:10
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Seveasno boon12:10
KnelixOK. Good. Thanks. :-)12:10
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Seveasall u's are pronouncede as oo like in moon12:10
dooglusooh12:10
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KnelixI get it-- it's hard to write phonetically in English, but I get it. :-)12:11
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thechitowncubshey12:11
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KnelixIt's how it would be pronounced in spanish.12:11
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thechitowncubsi'm using breezy and for some reason i keep rebooting or making it hibernate with a keyboard shortcut, i'm not sure exactly what shortcut it is though. Is there a default hibernate shortcut?12:11
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KnelixAnd Gnome is Ga-Nome, right?12:12
KnelixIs there a Gnome channel on this server, btw?12:12
naliothKnelix: unless you're a Texan, and then it's guh-nome12:12
Seveas#gnome is on irc.gnome.org12:12
KnelixAh, ok.12:13
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dooglusin most Bantu languages it would be syllabified like this: /u.bu.''tu/ (with a prenasalized t in the last syllable), whereas most English speakers will syllabify it like /u.bun.tu/.12:13
bluefoxicyhttp://lkml.org/lkml/2005/9/20/270/index.html  :>12:14
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Knelixhmm.12:14
jdermeris there another good aim client aside from gaim ?12:14
thoreauputicdooglus: is '' a glottal stop?12:14
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funkyHatjdermer, if you use KDE, Kopete12:15
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adjacentjdermer: gaim seems to stay fairly up to date with protocol changes, etc. why switch?12:15
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typohow do I get the nautilus spatial mode back in ubuntu?12:15
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vladuz976can someone help me with this error and look at it? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/237912:15
typobreezy I mean12:15
dooglusthoreauputic: I don't know.  I copy/pasted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ubuntu12:15
dooglusand the '' thing wouldn't paste, so I typed two quotes instead.12:16
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thoreauputicdooglus: ah OK :)12:16
drelle_workis apt used as the update mgr for ubuntu?12:17
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adjacenttypo: Menu -> System Tools -> Config , apps->nautilus->preferences->no_ubuntu_spatial (unchecked) i think12:17
funkyHattypo, applications > system tools > conf.... ok adjacent beat me12:17
adjacentfunkyHat: haha12:17
funkyHat:D12:17
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naliothdrelle_work: yes12:17
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thoreauputicdrelle_work: yes12:18
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drelle_workthanx :)12:18
typoadjacent: having to fiddle with gconf for this is ugly12:18
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adjacenttypo: for sure.... imho damn near every linux desktop is nasty. even X has serious limitations12:18
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drelle_workanyone with experience with ibm tp t42... does ubuntu work out of the box?... wifi and all12:19
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p_jncohello12:19
adjacenttypo: dont use them... use ratpoison/screen on a framebuffer console12:19
p_jncois there a nic card for ubuntu that is totally plug and play compadible?12:19
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p_jncocan someone recommend one?12:19
smottrealtek 8139?12:20
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typoadjacent: I don't think those are for me12:20
djm62p_jnco: almost all of them?12:20
naliothp_jnco: see wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation for a list of supported hardware12:20
adjacentp_jnco: anything but some of the oddball chipsets that use tulip should work out of the box fine12:20
adjacenttypo: me neither ;012:21
snausagesand my nic is a daamn tulip12:21
djm62p_jnco: http://www.leenooks.com/312:21
typook, my breezy update seems to have gone fine12:21
typomono is broken though12:21
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p_jncoi tried one last night12:22
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thoreauputicdooglus: heh - the wiki page for ubuntu pronunciation starts to read like a slashdot comments page ;) Some people have no idea...12:23
catfoxhi all. i'm trying to get ssh working on my machine, but don't have another machine to test it with.12:23
alec_Does anybody know what other programs you can get with apt-get??12:24
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catfoxlocally i'm trying to connect using the external ip address, but i get "connection refused". any ideas whats wrong?12:24
thoreauputicdooglus: I meant wikipedia of course12:24
djm62catfox: does 127.0.0.1 work?12:24
Jowicatfox: ssh 127.0.0.112:24
shrike__catfox, pm me you ip userid and password =)12:24
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catfoxJowi, djm62 127... works12:25
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Jowicatfox: superb12:25
catfoxi've just set the router up, looks like its not right?12:25
djm62catfox: is it NAT?12:25
catfoxdjm62, yeah12:25
thoreauputicdooglus: "The wikipedia entry for 'python' should point at the programming language <--- how brain-dead can people be?12:25
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alexiconhalloo!12:26
djm62catfox: are you in the DMZ?12:26
Jowicatfox: if you want to allow ssh connections from outside your lan, you must redirect port 22 to your ip address12:26
sylvanI have a .deb file I want to install, how do I do it?12:26
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alexicondpkg -i mypackage.deb12:26
sylvanthanks12:26
alexiconcan someone tell me the quickest way to get java on ubuntu?12:26
catfoxdjm62, not sure what the DMZ is, sorry12:26
djm62catfox: or what Jowi said...DMZ is the sledgehammer solution12:26
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alec_Does anybody know what other programs you can get with apt-get??12:26
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alexiconloads alec_12:26
transgressalec_: apt-cache search *12:27
transgressactually12:27
alec_thanks12:27
codenutI would like to emulate a Java phone on ubuntu, any thoughts?12:27
transgressit's too bad wildcards don't work with apt-cache12:27
alexicongarrr ubuntuguide is still down...12:27
transgressthat'd be a fun way to flood it12:27
sylvanalexicon, dbpkg not found! synaptic couldn't find it either =(12:27
djm62catfox: demilitarised zone...any inbound connections get forwarded to your computer (out of all the ones behind the NAT)12:27
sylvanah, misspelled =)12:27
alexicondpkg -i12:27
alexiconhehe12:27
Jowidjm62, catfox: DMZ is not needed. But can be tested temporarily if you have serious problem getting traffic.12:27
alec_transgress: Is there a list you can look at?12:27
Jowidjm62: to redirect port 22, look for "virtual server" or "port redirection" in your router settings.12:28
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Jowidjm62: different name for same thing on different routers.12:28
thoreauputicalec_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/allpackages12:28
catfoxJowi, i see. i'l have a go12:28
shrike__catfox, you might think about changing the default port to something other that 2212:29
alec_thoreauputic: thanks a bunch12:29
alexiconanyone?? java? any specific packages to get stuff going? or do i have to go to sun.com to get it12:29
thoreauputicalec_: be prepared - it's a huge list12:29
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tritiumubotu, tell alexicon about java12:29
erUSUL!tell alexicon about java12:29
apokryphosalec_: it's searchable though, so you can use that.12:29
catfoxhmm, still can't get access even with a dmz rule12:29
alexiconheh12:29
apokryphosalexicon: are you on hoary?12:30
catfox1ALLDMZANY192.168.1.100192.168.1.100Delete -- thats the rule i've added12:30
alexiconcheers tritium12:30
alexiconapokryphos: yes hoary12:30
tritium:)12:30
alec_ok12:30
djm62catfox: where have you added it?12:30
apokryphosalexicon: you will want to /msg ubotu sunjava   ..then12:30
catfoxdjm62, in my router config12:30
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apokryphosThe wiki should be updated (/me checks if it has been)12:31
Jowicatfox: remove that rule and add only the port you need.12:31
alexiconta very much :)12:31
catfoxJowi, ok12:31
ashzeroHi all.12:31
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alexiconah nice one! cheers apokryphos!12:31
catfoxJowi, djm62 now i have: 12ALLVirtual Server22192.168.1.100192.168.1.10012:31
ashzeroAnyone know where to get a java backage for ubuntu ?12:32
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apokryphos!sunjava12:32
ubotuFor Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)12:32
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p_jncohey guys12:32
p_jncoquick noob question12:32
p_jncomight even be yes or no12:32
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Jowicatfox: what is the name for the first and second ip addresses?12:32
p_jncohave a cablemodem with a usb port to give off internet12:32
p_jncowill the usb work with ubuntu12:33
djm62p_jnco: what brand, and have you looked at the hardware wiki?12:33
djm62!hardware12:33
ubotuhmm... hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport12:33
dooglusI asked earlier: "every time I boot, I see a message telling me that my MAC address is NULL in line 2 and that I should "correct or remove" that line.  Any idea how to fix this?".  After grepping through every file on my disk, I see that error message in the /sbin/ifrename binary...12:33
p_jncoim there now, lemme check heh i ask questions before looking hold on12:33
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I_did_it_for_lovheya12:33
ashzerothanks ubotu12:34
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p_jncotheres nothing on the site12:34
p_jncofor cable modems12:34
p_jncothey only make a driver for windows12:34
sylvananyone know what package I need to install in order to get libqt3c102-mt (opera needs it)12:34
p_jncou actually need a driver to make it work12:34
JowiHeya, I_did_it_for_lov . queen fan, are you?12:34
p_jncoits proboly a real long shot12:34
guidouilp_jnco, maibe you should just give it a try ;)12:34
I_did_it_for_lovits actually harlequin12:34
alec_After I download a program from the terminal how do I run it??12:34
I_did_it_for_lovbut i do like queen12:34
I_did_it_for_lov:-)12:34
JowiI_did_it_for_lov: ah :)12:35
djm62p_jnco: usb modems can be nasty, but google with the model number and linux for more information12:35
dooglusindeed.  I can get the same error from the command line now:12:35
doogluschris@chrislap:/etc$ sudo /etc/init.d/ifrename restart12:35
dooglusError: Null MAC address (`00:00:00:00:00:00') at line 212:35
dooglusError: /etc/iftab line 2 ignored due to above errors.  Please correct or remove this line.12:35
guidouilalec_, name_of_the_program &12:35
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p_jncomeh12:35
thechitowncubsI like the new fade out from screensaver in breezy12:35
p_jncoil just tell him get a nic card12:36
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apokryphosthechitowncubs: I believe it's going to be taken out.12:36
alec_guidouil: i type the name of the program then...12:36
apokryphosdooglus: not a good idea to paste in here.12:36
inanhello guys12:36
luihello hello, my people12:36
inan=D12:36
I_did_it_for_lovhow many use enlightenment?12:36
alec_guidouil: &12:36
guidouildidsomeone try the LTSP stuff of breezy ?12:36
Jowialec_: chmod +x progname (to make it executable). then ./progname to run it usually...12:36
dooglusapokryphos: I didn't.  I typed that by hand.12:36
thechitowncubsapokryphos, why in the world is that?12:36
thoreauputicthechitowncubs: you can set a fade-in fade-out in xscreensaver too12:36
apokryphosI_did_it_for_lov: not many; it's not even in any of the main repositories, unfortunately.12:36
guidouilalec than & :)12:36
alec_let me try12:36
inancan somebody help me with my nvidia driver12:36
inan=D12:36
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phendrickoops12:36
inanthanx12:36
inan=D12:36
apokryphosdooglus: you'll have to excuse me if I don't believe you.12:36
thoreauputicthechitowncubs: gnome-screensaver has some configurability problems12:37
apokryphosthechitowncubs: it produces a lot of problems12:37
JowiI_did_it_for_lov: have e17 from CVS but are not using it much. bugs bugs bugs...12:37
alec_Jowi: i downloaded it from apt-get12:37
guidouilsudo apt-get install nvidia12:37
typoanyone else have mono broken in breezy or is it just me?12:37
dooglusapokryphos: (well, not me, obviously, but my team of assistants did.  I gave them one line each to type)12:37
phendrickthe ip's are: Local IP From  Local IP To12:37
slack7384inan: what are you attempting to do with the nvidia driver? install/configure?12:37
Jowialec_: ah. then just type the program name.12:37
inanbreezy is out now?12:37
alec_ok12:37
inanhmm12:37
alec_Not found12:37
guidouilit's only a preview12:37
ashzerothanks ubotu12:37
alec_Jowi: not found12:37
ashzeroBye all12:37
test34inan, in development12:37
Jowialec_: what did you download?12:37
slack7384inan: breezy comes out october 13th12:37
luiquestion, question: what problems can I expect if I turn to the unstable-breezy right now?12:37
djm62inan: breezy isn't out yet12:37
thechitowncubsAlright, well can it be enabled even if it is taken out by default?12:37
alec_Jowi: lol acm12:37
guidouil!breezy12:37
dooglusinan: it's quite stable, but not finalised yet.12:37
alec_Jowi: i'm trying this apt-get thing out12:38
inandjm62: ow.. ok12:38
thoreauputicdooglus: is that the same team that typed the works of Shakespeare ?12:38
test34lui, I dont have any problems, but I started with a fresh install12:38
inanslack7384: install ang configure12:38
dooglusthoreauputic: they're not THAT old!12:38
inanslack7384: ok.. i thought so12:38
Jowialec_: so type ac and press <tab> twice to see which application names that start with "ac"12:38
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alec_ok12:38
slack7384inan: have you dl the zipped package from nvidia?12:38
guidouildid someone try the LTSP stuff of breezy ?12:38
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I_did_it_for_lovJowi, besides it doesn't support most stuff12:38
I_did_it_for_lovlol12:38
inanslack7384: yes i did12:38
test34guidouil, LTSP ?12:38
I_did_it_for_lovborders still suck12:39
luitest34, ok. anyone has turned to breezy from hoary?12:39
Tyller_Durdensomeone runs fluxbos 0.9.14 on ubuntu?12:39
inanslack7384: not in the respository12:39
alec_Jowi: accept             aconnect           acpi_available     acpi_listen12:39
alec_accessdb           acpi               acpid              activation-client12:39
I_did_it_for_lovtransparency is not supported12:39
slack7384inan: have you checked out http://ubuntuguide.org ?12:39
inanslack7384: that i did.. =D12:39
guidouiltest34, if you don't know what it is, maibe you should'nt answer ;)12:39
apokryphos!ubuntuguide12:39
luitest34, breezy have the gnome 2.12?12:39
ubotu[ubuntuguide]  out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.12:39
inanslack7384: that i didnt i mean..12:39
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inanslack7384: ill go check it ou12:39
inanslack7384: ill go check it out12:39
Jowialec_: installing it now to test12:39
alec_ok12:39
phendrickdjm62, Jowi sorry i cut myself off (im catfox).12:39
doogluslui: I went from hoary to breezy12:39
tristanmike!faq12:39
ubotufaq is, like, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)12:40
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Tyller_DurdenI_did_it_for_lov, on flux?12:40
test34lui, yes I think so12:40
phendrickdjm62, Jowi  the ip's are: Local IP From  Local IP To12:40
slack7384inan: rats, the site is down <ubuntuguide.org>12:40
I_did_it_for_lovTyller_Durden,  e1712:40
doogluslui: it has 2.12 of gnome, yes.12:40
test34guidouil, what it is ?12:40
Jowialec_: sudo apt-get install acm (to install it). then "acm" in a terminal to start it. works12:40
I_did_it_for_lovforgot about flux... gotta try it out again.. last time i did was about an year ago12:40
Tyller_DurdenI_did_it_for_lov, because is the release 0.9.1212:40
I_did_it_for_lovlol12:40
luidooglus, any problems yet? I'm thinking to turn now.12:40
test34it's not an answer, it's a question12:40
doogluslui: lots of problems, but none recently.12:40
Tyller_Durdenon 0..91-.1312:40
I_did_it_for_lovTyller_Durden,  of e17 ? its from the CVS ...12:40
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Tyller_Durdenand .9.14 us12:40
inanslack7384: yeah.. the site is down12:40
inan=D12:40
luitest34, can you check please?12:41
test34guidouil,  and stop repeating the same question over and over12:41
slack7384inan: Ok, then i'll give you directions manually, here we go............12:41
Tyller_Durdensomeone compile fluxbox 0.9.14 on ubuntu?12:41
doogluslui: text file icons on the desktop keep vanishing, non UTF-8 locales are missing, um, grep doesn't work well for UTF-8 locales.  other than that I'm fine with breezy12:41
slack7384sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop12:41
thoreauputicTyller_Durden: yes12:41
slack7384cd /path/to/nvidia/installer12:41
slack7384sudo sh NVidia-Linux-x86-1.0-xxxx-yyyy.run12:41
slack7384sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start12:41
slack7384If it's your first time installing nVidia drivers, you may have to modify your X configuration according to the nVidia README.12:41
alec_thanks12:41
slack7384That's it. You should have working OpenGL graphics, preserved across reboots. <from ubuntulinux.com>12:41
inanslack7384: i think we go pm12:41
guidouiltest34, LTSP is linux terminal server12:41
up2zion22is breezy advisable now?12:41
Tyller_Durdenthoreauputic, you have probles with libs?12:41
test34lui, yes 2.1212:41
thoreauputicslack7384: *don't* paste in here!12:41
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ginoodamn now i gotta order new cds after breezy comes out12:42
apokryphosup2zion22: still not technically stable, but many are running it.12:42
luidooglus, ok, thank you :)12:42
ginooand wait 3 months to get them12:42
slack7384thoreauputic: sorry :-(12:42
thoreauputicTyller_Durden: no - just install xlibs-dev12:42
alexiconahhh... so after getting my nvidia drivers applied i should be able to use my old xorg.conf12:42
naliothginoo: why?12:42
luitest34, thanks ;)12:42
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ginoonalioth: because I like the pretty pictures12:42
alexiconyou dont have to configure them any further than that do you?12:42
thechitowncubsdo any of you use epiphany?12:42
ginoo;)12:42
naliothginoo: good reason12:42
up2zion22ginoo, tagaasa?12:42
inanok slack7384.. i go try it12:42
inan=D12:42
Jowiphendrick / catfox: no idea about that router settings. i would guess you are in the wrong setting. you are not redirecting from local to local. you should redirect from public (internet) to local....12:42
Tyller_Durdenthoreauputic, fluxbox 0.9.14?12:42
thoreauputicTyller_Durden: I recommend you use checkinstall to make a deb as well12:42
inanoi bisaya12:42
inan=D12:42
inanhahaha12:42
cyphaseup2zion2, it's still in beta, but if you can handle the occasional problem, it would be cool if you could test it12:42
ginooup2zion22: que?12:42
doogluswhen will the 'grumpy groundhog' be available?12:42
test34guidouil, prettry much like vnc12:42
thechitowncubsIs there any way i can get epiphany to open external links in a new tab?12:43
thoreauputicTyller_Durden: yes 0.9.1412:43
cyphasereport any bugs..12:43
apokryphosnalioth: it is an exaggeration, but the estimate is 4-6 weeks. Pretty long12:43
apokryphosstill, a free CD...12:43
up2zion22apokryphos, i cant print wahhhhh12:43
sadrulhi. i am trying to upgrade firefox.  i am trying with `apt-get upgrade mozilla-firefox' -- but it seems to want to do stuff with openoffice-stuff as well. i don't want to touch any openoffice-things. any clues?12:43
Tyller_Durdenthoreauputic, humm good ideia12:43
thoreauputicTyller_Durden: mine is from svn but the soource is on the site as well12:43
up2zion22ginoo, ngutana lang12:43
phendrickJowi, hmm it's strange. there's no way of selecting a local+public. only IP that i can input is: LAN IP Address12:43
dooglussadrul: did you try just 'firefox' (drop the mozilla bit)12:43
inanup2zion22: bahhh.... taga asa ka bro?12:43
inanehe12:43
sadruldooglus: yep. the same result12:43
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Tyller_Durdenthoreauputic, im try make a .deb from the amsn 0.0.512:44
Tyller_Durdenthoreauputic, im try make a .deb from the amsn 0.9.512:44
Jowiphendrick: better check the manual for your router. on my netgear i only put in port 22, to local address 192.168.0.something. click apply. that's it.12:44
up2zion22qc12:44
kev_erg, which repository gives you sun-j2re1.5?12:44
I_did_it_for_lovTyller_Durden,  what is it called? the enlightenment file manager?12:44
dooglussadrul: try "sudo apt-get install firefox"12:44
dooglussadrul: instead of 'upgrade'12:44
inanginoo: mag download nalang ka sa site12:44
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Tyller_DurdenI_did_it_for_lov, ?12:44
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ginooinan STOP IT!12:45
inanup2zion22: u bisaya?12:45
phendrickJowi, righto, i'll have a look around12:45
dooglussadrul: note that upgrade  is  used to install the newest versions of all packages12:45
up2zion22mao jud12:45
ginooinan: Ubuntu12:45
dooglus              currently installed on the system12:45
phendrickthanks for the help!12:45
up2zion22u?12:45
dooglus*all* packages - not the one you specify.12:45
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up2zion22hoary ka inan?12:45
Jowiphendrick: i know some d-link routers have wierd naming for the services.... no prob and good luck12:45
inanis breezy will be available to be download at site?12:45
inanup2zion22 ubuntu12:45
inanyeah.. hoary12:45
thoreauputicguys, this is an english channel12:45
ginooseriously12:45
sadruldooglus: oh ok. `sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox' seems to be working. thanx a lot :)12:46
inansorry thoreauputic12:46
inan=D12:46
up2zion22hoary or breezy?12:46
dooglussadrul: the problem is you used 'upgrade' which works on all packages, not the one(s) you specify12:46
ginooyou guys are scaring me12:46
inanim asking if breezy is gona be available for download at site.. but i think it will be12:46
inan=D12:46
dooglusinan: breezy will be available for download when it's released, yes.12:47
inanok12:47
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test34inan, yes, it already is as a beta12:47
dooglusinan: breezy (in its current, unfinished state) is already available on the repositories.12:47
Tyller_Durdenim use brease here12:47
tritiumno more broken Tagalog please12:47
sadruldooglus: yeah, got it. so just `install' will upgrade the *single* package if/when necessary?12:47
inananyway, anybody have ever run MU online on ubuntu?12:47
Tyller_Durdenim use breezy here12:47
apokryphosinan: pre-release is available now too of course12:47
dooglussadrul: yes.12:47
up2zion22you using hoary inan?12:47
sadrulcool12:48
ginooim gonna download breezy now12:48
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inanyeah.. hoary ATM12:48
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Tyller_Durdenginoo, breeze its runing here for one week12:48
inanbut i will check for breezy in a min..12:48
inan=D12:48
ginooits due to be released soon12:48
Tyller_Durdenand i dont have any problem12:48
ginooyeah12:48
up2zion22ginoo, bis ka?12:48
ginoostop it! stop it!12:48
inanthis is my 1st time joining in this channel.. and i guess i am welcome12:48
inan=D12:48
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inanthnx12:49
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up2zion22Tyller_Durden, you have printer installed?12:49
Tyller_Durdenup2zion22, yes and scanner12:49
up2zion22and its doing well?12:49
inanhow bout webcam12:49
Tyller_Durdenhp psc 1315 all in one12:49
inanthis is mostly the problem12:49
Tyller_Durdenup2zion22, normal12:49
inanmost webcams dont have linux driver12:49
inanmost webcams dont have linux drivers =(12:49
up2zion22its driving me craZY12:50
up2zion22you tried webcam inan?12:50
Tyller_Durdenup2zion22, http://localhost:63112:50
inannot yet12:50
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inanim still looking for drivers...12:50
up2zion22Tyller_Durden, i did that12:50
typois there any way to get the nautilus spatial behaviour of opening new windows on double-click without closing the parent?12:50
up2zion22where from inan?12:51
inanbutuan city12:51
inanu? up2zion2212:51
up2zion22it has connection error12:51
up2zion22but works fine with xp12:51
up2zion22inan qc12:51
inanow.. and ur bisaya?12:51
up2zion22lagi12:51
inan<up2zion22> but works fine with xp <--- ?12:52
mjrtypo, gconftool-2 --set --type bool /apps/nautilus/preferences/no_ubuntu_spatial true12:52
inanow ok..12:52
typomjr: that's for geting spatial, right?12:52
up2zion22my ubuntu wont work with printer but works with xp12:52
up2zion22but i hate my xp12:52
up2zion22i want to migrate12:52
shinuis ubuntuguide down?12:52
mjrtypo, that's for disabling the closing of the old window by default12:52
Seveasshinu, yes12:52
test34how can I remove the small icons next to the items in the Applications/Places/System menus ?12:52
typomjr: ah, cool, thanks12:52
inanhaha... XP have all the driver.12:53
shinuSeveas: temporarily?12:53
Seveasbut since it's crap anyway it's not that bad :)12:53
inanshinu: yeah it is down12:53
shinuxD12:53
typoperfect now12:53
mjrtypo, it's an ubuntu hack, but luckily can be thus tuned...12:53
shinubut it had some good stuff to :/12:53
ginoomy laptop wireless is teh suck12:53
thoreauputicSeveas: like the curate's egg, it is good in parts ;)12:53
up2zion22ubuntu has the driver too12:53
I_did_it_for_lovwhich X do u guys prefer?12:53
typomjr: I know, and I don't like it12:53
up2zion22ubuntu is cool12:53
ginooxorg12:53
ginoocause everyone else is doing it12:53
ginooerr12:54
up2zion22unsa man na si ginoo12:54
up2zion22bisya man siguro na12:54
ginooim gonna hurt you12:54
kev_erg, which repository gives you sun-j2re1.5 or java2-runtime?12:54
mjrtypo, yep, I think it was rather unadvisable to do it... Actually, I don't know if it's still that way in Breezy by default12:54
mjranyone?12:54
ginooand/or /msg you a pulp fiction quote12:54
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Seveasup2zion22, stick to english in here12:54
bisdakok12:54
SeveasI_did_it_for_lov, xfree is dead12:54
typomjr: ok, ok12:55
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typomjr: might be my old settings12:55
Seveasall xfree devs are at x.org now12:55
mjrtypo, well, might, but I wasn't claiming that it wouldn't be default, just asking :)12:55
mjrit would be nice if it'd been ditched (as a default, anyway), for breezy12:55
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alec_Does anybody know how to get 3D desktop to work??12:56
test34http://secunia.com/advisories/16869/ - new firefox vulnerability12:57
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DVSoftwarei like that my breezy upgrades packages every few hours12:57
DVSoftwarei really like bleeding edge :D12:57
typodoes anyone have working mono or is it known to be broken in breezy now?12:57
apokryphoscafuego: try doing a dict on ubotu for recursive; then wait. 8)12:57
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Seveas'extremly critical' is highly exaggerated on that one test3412:57
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inanhow to update breezy? is it in the repo?12:58
inanor u have to add it..12:58
Seveasinan, read the topic12:58
dooglustypo, I have a working mono in breezy12:58
dooglustypo: what doesn't work for you?12:58
test34Seveas, if you click on a link in your IRC client and it opens in firefox you are vulnerable.. I think its pretty critical12:58
typodooglus: any mono app12:58
pc22inan, Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes12:58
inanohh.. sorry.. i didnt read it12:58
dooglustypo: I'm running 'blam' right now.12:58
inanthanx pc2212:58
Seveastest34, only in very specially crafted urls you should recognize12:59
typodooglus: blam fails12:59
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chemisushow can i download java using synaptic?12:59
Seveasurls which are not possible in irc clients even12:59
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poningrutest34: also that is fixed in the nightlys12:59
dooglustypo: not for me...  I'm using the current breezy versions of everything on i386.12:59
test34Seveas, yes.. I dont know how they look those urls.. maybe you can see the commands in clear text12:59
typodooglus: http://pastebin.com/36946201:00
typodooglus: me too01:00
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Seveastest34, they would have to look loke http://foo.com/bar`hey a shell command here`01:00
typodooglus: looks like it can't find the system libraries01:00
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dooglustypo: md5sum /usr/lib/mono/gac/glib-sharp/1.0.0.0__35e10195dab3c99f/glib-sharp.dll ?01:02
luito turn to breezy I just have to change hoary for breezy in sources.list? am I right?01:02
Seveasno01:02
typodooglus: 13c3bd2b853a8f6245492a0ba0e867c901:02
DVSoftwarelui01:02
DVSoftwareapt-get dist-upgrade after that01:02
Seveasyou should do an apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade too01:02
luiyes?01:02
DVSoftwareyeah update first01:02
dooglus13c3bd2b853a8f6245492a0ba0e867c9  /usr/lib/mono/gac/glib-sharp/1.0.0.0__35e10195dab3c99f/glib-sharp.dll here too01:02
Seveasand read the notes on the url in the topic01:02
typodooglus: yep, looks the same01:02
luiok01:02
luiyes of course :D01:03
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Leonikanyway to install mysql without the hoary hedgehog cd?01:04
Leoniki seem to have lost mine01:04
dooglustypo: I don't know enough about mono to help.  Do you know how to find out where it looks for things?01:04
typodooglus: looks like it can't find the System assembly01:04
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typodooglus: not really01:04
SeveasLeonik, remove the cd line from sources.list01:04
inan<slack7384> cd /path/to/nvidia/installer01:04
inan<slack7384> sudo sh NVidia-Linux-x86-1.0-xxxx-yyyy.run01:04
inan<slack7384> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start01:04
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Leonikwhere would i find that?01:05
SeveasDON'T ever paste in here01:05
thechitowncubsWhat is the w32codec called in breezy?01:05
dooglustypo: I'll try 'strace' to see what files it opens.  You should too.01:05
poningruinan: dude thats why things like #flood and pastebin exist01:05
Seveasthechitowncubs, w32codecs :)01:05
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Tyller_Durdenthechitowncubs, de apt dont take de w32codecs on breezy01:06
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Tyller_Durdeni have to make the download01:06
Leonikseveas what's the "cd line"?01:06
Tyller_Durdenon the ftp01:06
Leoniknm01:06
Leoniknm01:06
Leonikthanks!!!!01:06
thechitowncubsTyller_Durden, de apt dont take w32codecs on breezy??? what does that mean01:06
pc22Tyller_Durden, whats your printer?01:06
SeveasLeonik, the one that has the cd info :)01:06
typodooglus: solved it01:07
dooglustypo: oh, good.  how?01:07
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Tyller_Durdenthechitowncubs, try make the download using the apt on ftp nerin01:07
typodooglus: I ran "apt-get install --reinstall mono-classlib-1.0"01:07
SpudDoggim a n00b...PLEASE HELP!!01:07
Tyller_Durdenpc22, hp all in one psc131501:07
typodooglus: for some reason /usr/lib/mono/1.0/System.dll didn't exist although that package should contain it01:07
Seveas!tell SpudDogg about ask01:07
dooglusweird.  bug in apt-get, or what?01:07
Leonikwhats a good tutorial on how to setup mysql01:07
thoreauputicSpudDogg: shouting won't get you more attention of the kind you want01:07
Leonikafter you download it?01:08
SeveasLeonik, try #mysql01:08
Leonikgood idea01:08
Seveasit's way off-topic in here01:08
Leonikyea i guess01:08
SpudDoggok...im a linux n00b.  I'm trying to install an FTP server here in Ubuntu, but can't figure out how to install iut01:08
SpudDoggit01:08
pc22Tyller_Durden, you hav a network?01:08
SeveasSpudDogg, sudo aptitude install pure-ftpd pureadmin01:08
SpudDogg?01:09
SpudDoggthat doesnt mean anything to me01:09
thoreauputicSpudDogg: "linux n00b" and "ftp server" probably should not appear in the same sentence01:09
Seveasrun that command in a terminal01:09
SpudDogglol01:09
Tyller_Durdenpc22, not01:09
SpudDoggi see01:09
pc22only one pc?01:09
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dooglusthoreauputic: it's quite possible to have been running an FTP server for years, but to be a linux noob.  windows has ftp servers too you know...01:09
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Tyller_Durdenpc22, yes01:09
thoreauputicdooglus: I did say "probably" :)01:10
thoreauputicdooglus: point taken though ;)01:10
SpudDoggok, i ran that command...now how do i configure?01:10
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Seveaslaunch pureadmin01:10
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SpudDoggwell, after running that, everything scrolled up the screen...but when i type "ls" i dont see anything there about pureadmin01:11
SeveasSpudDogg, just type the command pureadmin01:11
sahakHello, gnome-app-install has 2 menu entries: one in Applications, and one in System/Administration. Is this intentional?01:11
jrjxI just installed a new KUbuntu 5.04 Install i386 from the ISOs.01:12
jcohen85if i'm using an amd 64 3000+ chip with the 386 Ubuntu, should i use the 386 or 686 kernel?01:12
dooglusSpudDogg: type "pureadmin"01:12
naliothjrjx: congrats01:12
Seveasit should be somewhere in the menu too01:12
SpudDogg"command not found"01:12
Seveasjcohen85, 68601:12
naliothjcohen85: ltns, bubba01:12
jrjxI'm trying to update my list of known packages, using both the KDE GUI interface to apt-get and also command-line apt-get.01:12
SpudDoggdoes it matter that im in some different directory?01:12
dooglustype "sudo aptitude install pure-ftpd pureadmin"01:12
dooglusthen type "pureadmin"01:12
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SeveasSpudDogg, then paste all the terminal output from the previous command on the pastebin01:12
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SpudDoggpastebin?01:13
Seveaspastebin is http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:13
SpudDoggahh01:13
SpudDoggok...im gonna do that now01:13
jcohen85Seveas, did I ask you about the kernel panic I was having in breezy before? Apparently it was an unknown bug and has been fixed since I posted my bug report. It affected quite a few other people too.01:13
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SpudDoggso, should i make a new post, or type that in the search01:13
jrjxIn the command-line, I'm getting errors such as ...01:14
Seveasnew post01:14
jrjxErr http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security/main Sources01:14
Seveasall the output from the sudo aptitude ..... command01:14
jrjxErr http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages01:14
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jcohen85https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15707 is the bug report01:14
Leonikanyone know what password is set for mysql when it is first installed?01:14
Leonikusing apt-get01:14
jrjxand ...01:14
Seveasusername root01:14
Seveasno password01:14
SpudDoggok...i have 1 more dumb question...i have figured out how to go up directories in the terminal.  cd <dir> etc...but how do i go back down?01:14
jrjxFailed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/source/Sources.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)01:15
jrjxFailed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)01:15
jrjxReading package lists... Done01:15
jrjxW: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)01:15
Seveasjrjx, apt-get update01:15
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dooglusSpudDogg: "cd .."01:15
Leonikgives me access denied *cries*01:15
SeveasAND NEVER paste in here01:15
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SpudDoggok...thank you01:15
pc22Seveas, when's ubuntuguide coming back?01:15
dooglusSpudDogg: and you've got "up" and "down" confused.  "/" is the top of the tree.  "/home/spuddogg/a/b/c" is the bottom01:15
Seveasjrjx, check your sources.list for duplicates and remove them, then do apt-get update. Then get some netiquette before showing up again01:15
Seveaspc22, I hope it won't :)01:16
dooglusSpudDogg: if you just "cd" on its own, it takes you home01:16
SpudDoggahh01:16
SpudDogghot it01:16
SpudDogggot it01:16
SpudDoggthanks01:16
dooglusSpudDogg: "pwd" tells you where you are01:16
pc22Seveas, why not?01:16
Seveasbecause it sucked01:16
SpudDoggi did that "sudo aptitude install pure-ftpd pureadmin" again, and i see the errors : Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "pure-ftpd"01:17
SpudDoggCouldn't find any package whose name or description matched "pureadmin"01:17
thoreauputicpc22: we spent hours in here trying to fix stuff that happened to people who followed it blindly01:17
SeveasSpudDogg, aha101:17
SeveasSpudDogg, enable universe then01:17
Seveas!tell SpudDogg about sources01:17
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pc22ok01:17
Leonikseveas when i type in mysql -u root -p and just hit enter at the password prompt i get access denied01:17
SeveasLeonik, leave out the -p01:18
Leoniki still get access denied01:18
Seveasdid you install mysql or mysql-server?01:18
Leonikmysql server01:18
Seveasodd01:19
Seveascan you paste the complete output in a private char01:19
Seveaschat*01:19
thechitowncubsis there a channel for totem?01:20
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SpudDoggi dont see anything in Synaptic called univers01:20
SpudDoggunivers01:20
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SeveasSpudDogg, read what ubotu told you01:21
nybblehmm... could someone with kernel experience help me in #ubuntu-wireless01:21
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btuans01:22
_zxsykcoI am reluctant to help as I have problems getting ndiswrapper to work....01:22
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inan.01:22
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ssdd65can i get the 2.6.x kernel sorce with out downloading it.... meaning is it on the cd...?01:22
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Seveasssdd65, no01:23
ssdd65damn01:23
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zyphi have trouble using sound in games01:23
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pc22bye all01:25
inanSeveas, i have newly installed ubuntu01:25
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inanalready added nvidia01:26
inando i have to download the package from nvidia.com?01:26
inandriver i mean01:26
_n00blar_Quick question..what do I need to be able to view WMV files in xine?01:26
zyphinan i had the same question01:26
zyphbut it's in synaptic01:26
thoreauputic!tell inan about nvidia01:27
zyphi have my accelerated 3d drivers working like a breeze01:27
erUSUL_n00blar_: install w32codecs01:27
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inanthanks...01:27
robotgeektell _n00blar_ about codecs01:27
zyphnp inan01:27
inanmy 1st time in this channel01:27
nootropei keep getting a shutdown error during installation of HH on a P2 that states that Critical temperature has been reached 127 C, a quick check inside the box reveals nothing hot at all, and pointing a fan at the open box during install doesn't prevent it. anyone know what's up?01:27
zyph2nd01:27
zyphi have two sound cards, trying to get games to use them01:27
zyphone or the other lol01:28
zyphi come from slackware and kde, ubuntu is new to me01:28
_n00blar_erUSUL, can I use synaptic to get them?01:28
SpudDoggim sorry about all the problems, but i followed the ubotu instructions, read the tutorial, and did every step.  i still dont see any universe01:28
erUSUL_n00blar_: yes they are in hoary-extras i think01:28
zyphis breezy stable yet?01:28
thoreauputicSpudDogg: did you reload/update ?01:29
erUSULzyph: no01:29
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SpudDoggyes, i reloaded, but what do you mean by update?01:29
erUSULtell _n00blar_ about repos01:29
thoreauputicSpudDogg: same thing really01:29
MatCHi folks... next question: I'm trying to get TV recording working from a tv card (878 based).  I can see the picture fine in xawtv (image grab mode only, overlay doesn't work), but can't record with ffmpeg (it says it can't find the grab device).  I've looked online and at the ffmpeg faq, but can't see anything... any ideas ?01:29
SpudDoggok, yes i did that01:29
SpudDoggi even searched for universe, and found nothing01:29
thoreauputicSpudDogg: if you did it right, you should see a whole lot more available packages01:30
zyphMatc, what kind of card do you have?01:30
SpudDoggok, i'll run through again...brb01:30
MatCHauppage, 878 thingie01:30
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zyphoh so it's an actual tv card01:30
MatCyes01:30
zyphlol i got a nvidia card with tv-in01:30
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zyphi stopped trying to get that to work in linux 3 years ago01:31
MatCnice :)01:31
MatChaha#01:31
zyph4 distros later, i'd be amazed if ubuntu had an easy solution01:31
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MatCit's bizarre enough getting those working in windows (I used to have similar, but gave my old vivo card away)01:32
zyphthe box was really misleading01:32
MatCwell xawtv works, and shows the image all fine..... so I think it's a software issue (aren't they all?)01:32
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nootropeno takers on the Critical temperature reacher error?01:32
JuuLhello, I'm having troubles with my PCI-X nvidia 6600 on my AMD64  I can't start X after installing ubuntu. I already searched the forums, but that doesn't work. Can anyone help me out please?01:32
zyphall i can think of is the bttv driver01:32
MatCcould be...01:33
MatCworth trying to upgrade it01:33
MatC?01:33
zyphwell i guess make sure you have the right driver?01:33
MatCif it was the wrong driver, could it still work under xawtv ?01:33
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zyphhmm... lemme think for a minute about something01:33
erUSULMatC: check for the devs if it says that the grab one does not exist maybe it actually does not exist...01:33
MatCerUSUL: when I load xawtv I can see the tv picture just fine... so I assume it has the dev ok?01:34
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Fubarredanyone give me a name for a C syntax highlighting editor for Ubuntu?01:35
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MatCdoes kate have c highlighting? I can't remember01:35
test34Fubarred, vi ?01:36
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MatCvi? has he been evil in a previous life? :)01:36
erUSULMatC: maybe it uses a different device for watchin tv and for recording my snd card exposes 4 devs01:36
fluvvellhey guys, after I install k3b, how do I get it to appear on the menus?01:36
MatCer4z0r: could be I guess...... how can I tell that?01:37
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test34how can I remove the small icons next to the items in the Applications/Places/System menus ?01:38
erUSULMatC: i do not have a tv card i can not tell for sure01:38
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Fubarredtest34, vi doesnt01:39
erUSULMatC: just a hint01:39
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JuuLdoes anybody has had some problems with pci-x on amd64 also?01:39
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MatCsure, thanks erUSUL... will look through it's devices or something01:39
FubarredC Syntax highlighting editor, anyone?01:39
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jrjxhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/238701:40
cevizogluis there an easier way to switch wireless hubs than going to network settings -> properties -> network name?01:40
JuuLi have bought my pc some months ago and i'm still getting it to work :s01:40
test34Fubarred, vim then01:40
cevizoglulike perhaps a gui tool or a cli script?01:40
erUSULFubarred: almost any unix editor has C highlight even nano can be teached to highlight c01:41
Miguel_Rossdoes any body know about gnopernicus01:41
erUSULemacs, gvim, gedit, kate,....01:41
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edoyapemsg #ubuntu register ferrari01:41
MatCFubarred: kate is included with kde (kubuntu), and is nice01:41
erUSULcevizoglu: try networkapplet01:41
enycnigu: not really --  accessibility-toolkit thing01:41
fluvvelledoyape, you need a /01:42
edoyaperegister ferrari01:42
SpudDoggok...i got it working now01:42
SpudDoggthanks very much!01:42
enycnigu: exepct that iirc its not in usable-state ;p01:42
fluvvellthe / goes at the beginning01:42
edoyapethnk01:42
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Miguel_Rossyes you got it accessibility tool kit01:43
enycnigu: iirc its just not finished/working yet ;p01:43
inanhow to add wine?01:43
fluvvellinan: apt-get install wine01:43
inanno more source.list?01:44
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Miguel_Rossbecause it doesn't apear that gnopernicus is include on the ubuntu distro01:44
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jmainI can't get GDM to load my .xsession script.  But startx from command line does.01:45
cevizogluerUSUL, how do I make netapplet present on startup?01:46
erUSULMiguel_Ross: i have it in my list...01:46
erUSULcevizoglu: add it to the panel. it will be there when you log in thre01:47
Miguel_Rossonthe package cd01:47
Seveasjmain, gdm does not use .xsession01:47
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Fubarredim running gnome, is it advised against to install such KDE native apps like KATE ?01:47
SpudDogganyone here know much about pureadmin01:47
thoreauputicjmain: choose the default system session in gdm01:47
SpudDogg?01:47
robotgeekFubarred: nope, go ahead and install them01:48
thoreauputicSeveas: yes it does01:48
jmainI am trying to lauch different apps in fluxbox on startup01:48
Seveasthoreauputic, hmm01:48
mjrFubarred, not really, though you may get a better experience if a native Gnome app fills your needs01:48
SeveasI stand corrected then01:48
erUSULFubarred: use gedit then01:48
inancan somebody help.. trying to add Wine01:48
inan=D01:48
Fubarredrobotgeek, wont appear in menu/panel will it?01:48
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thoreauputicSeveas: you just choose the system session .. default or whatever it's called01:48
robotgeekFubarred: it will appear01:48
cevizoglurobotgeek, my wireless is working now.. I got a prism card  :D01:49
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robotgeekcevizoglu: awesome!01:50
SpudDoggthoreauputic you still here?01:50
Fubarredthanks guys, gedit will do the job just fine!01:50
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dooglusSeveas: gdm DOES TOO use .xsession!01:51
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naliothSpudDogg: you dont need thoreauputic. what is up?01:51
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SpudDoggim still having a problem with this pureadmin...i installed it and can run it, but cannot create any users01:52
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tapoxHey guys, every time I run Ubuntu Update Manager it's decided to yell at me.01:52
jmaindooglus: how do you get it to run?01:52
tapox"Your system has broken packages!"01:52
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tapoxHow do I un-break said package?01:52
Piehow do i play .mp3 files with amaroK?01:53
funkyHatinstall the packages it depends on tapox01:53
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SpudDoggi get the error "There was an error when trying to create password file..."01:53
SpudDoggany ideas?01:53
cevizoglutapox, if there is a package which won't install, you can remove it to enable the other packages to install01:53
tapoxahh.01:54
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cevizoglutapox, that is just one possibility though, you will have to do some troubleshooting01:54
tapoxI figured it out. For some reason, even though it says it didn't install, Opera installed with its package problem.01:54
cevizoglutapox, like if you dist-upgraded, you might need to force the upgrade for some packages which have conflicts01:54
tapoxSpeaking of which, are the qt packages in universe?01:54
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naliothSpudDogg: how are you attempting to do the password file thing?01:55
tapoxyeah, it's just the sole opera package cevisoglu.01:55
SpudDoggwhen i click the "manage users" button, the error pops up01:55
dooglusSeveas: I have the line "export myxsession=sourced" in my ~/.xsession, and I see the variable in every shell I start inside GNOME01:56
ksmurfgoodday all.01:56
naliothSpudDogg: what program is it again?01:56
SpudDoggpureadmin01:56
zxsykcoAnyone have any idea why I get this01:56
dooglusSeveas: aah.  but that's probably because I have the line ". ~/.xsession01:56
zxsykcoThe following packages have unmet dependencies:01:56
zxsykco  gforge-sourceforge-transition: Depends: sourceforge but it is not installed or01:56
zxsykco                                          sourceforge-db-postgresql but it is not installable01:56
dooglus" in my .gnomerc...01:56
ksmurfif there a way to change my resolution in termianl?01:56
naliothSpudDogg: what does that do?01:56
naliothzxsykco: please do not paste in here01:56
zxsykcoI'm sorry.01:57
ksmurfalot of my screen is unseen on startup ( laptop)01:57
zxsykcoI should've used #flood01:57
cevizogluksmurf, have you tried changing your resolution?01:57
SpudDoggwell, im looking to install an FTP server...someone told me to use this01:57
naliothzxsykco: you'll need to use apt-get to build sourceforge-db-postgresql01:57
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naliothSpudDogg: did you get it from the ubuntu repos?01:57
SpudDoggyes01:58
ksmurfcevizoglu.... Yes I can in gnome but it doesn't help durning startup01:58
zxsykcoI tried apt-get -f install and it gives me the same error everytime.01:58
naliothSpudDogg: is there a website on how to use it? (sorry i'm clueless on the program itself)01:58
SpudDogglol...i have no idea...01:58
cevizogluksmurf, does it help after startup?01:58
naliothzxsykco: you'll need to get apt-get to build the pkg for you01:58
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naliothSpudDogg: uncle google is your friend01:58
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SpudDoggi see that01:58
SpudDoggim gonna work for a while01:58
SpudDoggthanks man01:59
naliothSpudDogg: he who helps himself, and all that01:59
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SpudDoggrgr that01:59
SpudDoggthanks again man01:59
ksmurfcevizoglu.... NO.... but I think I misunderstood you.  Your talking bout changing it in grub right?01:59
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zxsykcoThank you Nalioth.01:59
Cossinsok, i'm in deep shit!01:59
naliothzxsykco: are you familiar with that function?01:59
cevizogluksmurf, no I'm talking about changing it in your preferences after startup01:59
naliothCossins: language please, alligators works well in your sentence01:59
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fluvvellerr, Ive added k3b which works from terminal and from *Run Application, but it doesnt appear in menu anywhere - any ideas?02:00
Cossinsnalioth: alright, i'm in deep alligators...02:00
cevizogluha ha ha ha02:00
Cossinsx.org continues to refuse to think about starting02:00
naliothfluvvell: use smeg02:00
BlueEaglefluvvell: You might want to add it manually if it doesn't put itself there.02:00
ksmurfcevizoglu...... there is no issue in X no matter what GUI I am using.  Just in Console mode at startup02:00
zxsykcoDouble thanks Nalioth!02:00
dooglusI just removed a bunch of orphaned packages and now I can't run gnome-terminal any more.  oops!02:00
Cossinsgood ol' "could not open default font 'fixed'"02:00
dooglusI guess it depends on something but doesn't declare its dependancy.02:00
BlueEagledooglus: Not so orphaned then. heh.02:01
zxsykcoYes I can use man apt-get and I figured the rest out!02:01
fluvvellnalioth: smeg ?02:01
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dooglusBlueEagle: well, they were all orphans - and I still have the gnome-terminal program - it just doesn't work any more.02:01
zxsykcoBuilding now!02:01
cevizogluksmurf, hmm.. not sure then02:01
zxsykcoThank you!02:01
fluvvellBlueEagle: Which menu editor to use?02:01
naliothzxsykco: lots of programs "are not installable" b/c they dont exist in binary form for your arch02:01
dooglusBlueEagle: doesn't that mean there's an error in the dependancy tree somewhere?02:01
BlueEaglezxsykco: Try aptitude instead of apt-get. It's got better tracking of dependencies, or so I've been told.02:01
BlueEaglefluvvell: joe or gedit02:01
dooglusluckily I kept a list of the packages I removed, so hopefully reinstalling them will fix the problem.02:02
dooglusotherwise it's xterm for me for a while...02:02
cevizogluksmurf, are you just interested in reading startup log?02:02
zxsykcoOk, I will take a look BlueEagle.02:02
BlueEagledooglus: It means that it has got a dependancy but it isn't declared properly.02:02
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Cossinseven though xfonts-base is installed correctly, x.org doesn't find the 'fixed' font02:02
dooglusBlueEagle: I'd call that a bug...02:02
cevizogluksmurf, if so, try "dmesg" from the cli02:02
fluvvellsurely Gnome has a menu editor?02:02
naliothBlueEagle: we're using apt to build missing binaries02:02
dooglusfluvvell: "smeg"02:02
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BlueEagledooglus: So would I. Now it's just a matter of tracking down the file and filing a bug report.02:02
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nalioth!tell fluvvell about smeg02:02
dooglusBlueEagle: that's exactly what I'm doing.02:02
zxsykcoI've installed every other development related and lib related packages with no problems, aside from gforge~.02:03
BlueEagledooglus: :)02:03
Cossinsi'm desperate here!02:03
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CossinsI know I'm being a PITA right now, but this is annoying, and I have no idea where else to ask.02:03
dooglusBlueEagle, do you recognise any of these as potential candidates to help narrow my search?  :   cpp-3.4 cupsys-bsd cupsys-client dpatch fluxbox fnlib-data foomatic-filters fortune-mod fortunes-min gcc-3.3 gcc-3.4 gftp-common gftp-gtk gnome-btdownload gnome-cups-manager gstreamer0.8-dv gstreamer0.8-hermes gstreamer0.8-plugin-apps gtk-smooth-themes iceme icepref icewm icewm-gnome-support icewm-themes ijsgimpprint java-package juk libdbus-glib-1-dev libfnlib002:03
cevizogludooglus, you need to use pastebin02:04
doogluscevizoglu: isn't that only for pastes of over 4 lines?02:04
freeman08can anyone help me setting up my network... i already installed samba and nfs02:04
doogluscevizoglu: I only wrote a single line02:04
cevizogludooglus, you're taking up 12 lines on my screen02:04
robotgeekdooglus: your paste was over 4 lines :)02:04
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tristanmike9 lines on mine02:04
doogluscevizoglu: I guess your IRC client is word-wrapping or something02:04
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Vespoli:o02:05
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cevizogludooglus, yes02:05
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Vespolihow can I sudo apt-get blah blah but I don't belong to admin02:05
robotgeekdooglus: yeah, it does. isn't that logical?02:05
Gobblaim installing ubuntu on my laptop and the cd is broken... i have partionated some space, I have my ntfs partion left... the error occured when I started installing the base system... will it be OK to cancel the installation at this point?02:05
Vespoliand I think I need to be a member of 'admin'02:05
Vespolibut -- no exist!02:05
Vespoli:P02:05
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naliothGobbla: yes02:06
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Gobblapositive? otherwise I could just burn another one tomorrow and plug it in instead...02:06
dooglusrobotgeek: the number of lines will depend on which point your client wraps the lines.  I only typed one line.02:06
crystuferUbuntuPHow do I get to the settings for my sound card?02:06
Vespoli.......02:06
cevizogludooglus, no need to argue, just use pastebin02:07
naliothGobbla: unless you've gotten to the 'install boot loader' part, your windows should work fine02:07
makkkis there a way to bypass the harddisk check that ubuntu does automatically every 30th boot?02:07
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naliothmakkk: yes, but why would you want to? it's for your datas protection02:07
BlueEagledooglus: I'd start with the last two libs02:07
Seveasmakkk, read the manpage for tune2fs02:07
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Gobblanalioth: alright, ill take your word for it :)02:07
tristanmikenalioth, how do you do the check manually?02:07
BlueEagledooglus: The ice suff you can rule out as they are a different wm.02:08
makkknalioth, i have a laptop, sometimes it does it at the worst time. I'd like it to do it at night or something02:08
dooglusBlueEagle: right.02:08
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dooglusI reinstalled the whole lot and it's working again.02:08
BlueEagledooglus: also fluxbox should have no impact on it. the fortune stuff is for fortunes. Nice, but hardly crucial.02:08
naliothmakkk: dont restart at a "worst" time02:08
Gobblanalioth: oh fuck i forgot to tell you i have another dist already installed02:08
Gobblathat i installed over02:08
naliothGobbla: languange02:08
doogluswhat was funny was that this window itself (the IRC window) froze during the apt-get remove operation.02:08
Gobblanow it just says GRUB in a black screen02:09
Gobblacant type anything02:09
dooglusI had to kill the gnome-terminal it was running in.02:09
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BlueEaglegobbla: usb keyboard?02:09
Gobblano02:09
Gobblalaptop02:09
dooglusand after reinstalling all the packages, gnome-terminal still wouldn't work until I restarted GNOME (logout and login)02:09
naliothGobbla: you are out of business for the moment. you have two choices: you can rebuild your grub so windows loads, or get another install cd tomrrow and finish the install02:09
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Cossinshey Morimando!02:09
Gobblaok good02:10
Morimandohey Cossins02:10
makkknalioth, ... that's not a very good solution, cant always control everything around me, i use my laptop for work, there are times i need to boot into windows, then back. I need a way to do it when I want to do it02:10
Gobblaoption nr 2 it is02:10
CossinsMorimando: small world...02:10
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Morimandoyeah it is02:10
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rubemhello...02:10
Morimandofont path wrong?02:10
naliothmakkk: read up on "tune2fs" and you decide how you want your system to run02:10
Gobblasry bout the lanugage nalioth just got a bit scared :)02:10
makkkthanks02:10
rubemare you reading thesse message?02:10
Gobblamy network admin at school woulda killed me if i had f*t anything up02:10
rubemthesse = this02:10
CossinsMorimando: exactly!02:11
rubem?02:11
naliothmakkk: keep in mind that fsck works better before the disk is mounted02:11
MorimandoK so i am not alone02:11
rubemanyone?02:11
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robotgeek!tell rubem about anyone02:11
naliothrubem: you are sending no priv msgs. your are unidentified02:11
CossinsMorimando: maybe it's a gentoo-ubuntu migration thing? :-D02:11
cleaner345345german ?02:11
naliothcleaner345345: en #ubuntu-de02:11
makkknalioth, I'll keep in in mind. looks like i have some reading to do. i know nothing about this stuff02:11
cleaner345345thx02:11
MorimandoI migrated from Hoary ;)02:11
sorush20what is the best image viewer in Linux just similar to ACD02:11
Morimandodesk = Sourcemage, notebook = ubuntu02:12
rubemhi02:12
robotgeeksorush20: display02:12
CossinsMorimando: yeah, i really migrated from warty (old install cd), so... :S02:12
naliothsorush20: there are dozens similar02:12
ksmurfLet me clarify my issue.... If I drop to terminal My resolution is not correct without X.  Is there somewhere to fix that?02:12
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_n00blar_Ok, I think the hoary-extras source that I have added to my source-list files doesn't have w32codecs...anyone know of a source that has them for sure?02:12
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rubemi have irc :P02:12
erUSULsorush20: gthumb. gqview02:12
tritium_n00blar_, it was removed02:12
robotgeek_n00blar_: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/02:12
_n00blar_robotgeek, ty02:12
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rubemdoes anybody knows fstab?02:13
ksmurfn00blar.... they have been removed02:13
Morimandoso how exactly is this fixed?02:13
Seveas_n00blar_, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl02:13
tritiumwhat about fstab, rubem ?02:13
rubem/dev/hda7       /mnt/hda7       ntfs    ro,user,auto,exec 0 002:13
ksmurfrubem what do u need'02:13
Morimandoif we two got it, there must be more ;)02:13
CossinsMorimando: haha, very funny... "fixed"...02:13
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rubemthis should allow users to acess hda7?02:13
Seveasrubem, add umask=0000 to that02:13
rubemumask at the options?02:13
dooglusksmurf: I think you need to specify some "vga=" setting in your kernel parameters in grub or lilo02:13
naliothsorush20: gtksee02:13
Seveasro,user,auto,fmask=0333,dmask=022202:14
Seveasthat's the best02:14
erUSULrubem: ask02:14
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CossinsMorimando: i feel like shouting, but that would be impolite... nobody here listens to us!02:14
TokenBadanyone know why apt-get will not install something and why it gives the error it gives?02:14
rubemI'll try02:14
MorimandoWell....02:14
crystuferUbuntuPSeriously, how do I get my sound card working?02:14
c0rrupt_seveas when i boot /etc/init.d/networking start hangs or something.. but when i run it in a terminal it works fine.. any ideas why?02:14
_n00blar_I get 404 Not found from both sites02:14
Seveasc0rrupt_, not at all02:14
_n00blar_when I run apt-get update02:14
c0rrupt_i wind up having to ctrl c02:15
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c0rrupt_or it takes 5 mins to boot02:15
Seveas_n00blar_, http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ has it for sure, it's my own site :)02:15
ksmurfdooglus..... you know where to get the vga values?02:15
MorimandoAnyone has an idea on why breezy fails to boot (saying font path is wrong)?02:15
robotgeek_away_n00blar_: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/ are torrent downloads02:15
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tritiumMorimando, breezy boots just fine02:15
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dooglusksmurf: try http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/26/2004/03/4/15257502:15
SeveasMorimando, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:15
Morimandotritium, not here, it doesn't ;)02:16
ksmurfthanks02:16
Cossinstritium: yeah, but X.org doesn't02:16
MorimandoSeveas, i'll try that... one moment.02:16
naliothtritium: sneaksin around again?02:16
cevizogluc0rrupt_, what network interface are you using?  it has to be there on boot or it will take a long time02:16
CossinsSeveas: doesn't do anything02:16
tritiumCossins, yes it does.  Don't talk in the absolute02:16
rubemumask did not work, i'll try fmask and dmask02:16
SeveasCossins, thenn manually correct the fontpaths in there02:16
c0rrupt_?02:16
tritiumnalioth, we are ;)02:16
c0rrupt_uh02:16
CossinsSeveas: been there, done that - they couldn't be more corrent02:16
c0rrupt_wlna002:16
Cossinscorrect02:16
c0rrupt_wlan002:16
crystuferUbuntuPI can get my soundcard to work in damnsmalllinux, but not this version. What's up with that?02:16
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Cossinstritium: don't focus on semantics when we might have a real problem (at least more than one of us do)02:17
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c0rrupt_hmm02:17
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c0rrupt_it is there though02:17
Morimandodpkg-reconfigure only tells me that xserver-xorg is broken or incomplete02:17
c0rrupt_actually i think it might be the driver im using.. now that i think of it02:17
SeveasCossins, if your fontpaths are correct X wouldn't complain about them02:17
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c0rrupt_i should switch back to ndiswrapper02:18
cevizogluc0rrupt_, the cable or wireless hub is present on boot?02:18
c0rrupt_yea02:18
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rubemhum. did not work...02:18
SeveasMorimando, right, apt-get -f install && dpkg --configure --pending02:18
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CossinsSeveas: apparently it would... I do know what I'm doing, you can have my xorg.conf if you like, but it would be a waste of your time.02:18
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rubemfmask=0333,dmask=0222, this realy allow users to acess partitions?02:19
Seveasrubem, first you need to unmont the partition then mount with these options02:19
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phlegmQuick question for the gurus. I rebuilt the deb's for libtunepimp because they don't have mp3 support. Problem is that apt-get upgrade keeps replacing them. How do I tell apt- to leave them? I tried selecting the current version in synaptic and also locking them. No luck.02:19
Seveasand you should forget about write access02:19
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naliothphlegm: see the wiki on "apt pinning"02:20
tritiumprecisely02:20
vladuz976ubuntuguide is down. is there any other place where i can get info02:20
phlegmnalioth: thnks02:20
c0rrupt_cevizoglu, ..?02:21
tritiumvladuz976, the wiki02:21
psusiI installed the ubuntu kernel 2.6.12 package but when I try to make xconfig it says gcc-3.4 not found... can't you build the kernel with gcc 4?02:21
c0rrupt_could it be my driver02:21
_n00blar_Seveas, I'm getting 401 Unathenticated when i try to install w32codecs off your site02:21
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c0rrupt_im using a patched driver for injection purposes02:21
naliothvladuz976: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation02:21
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nalioth_n00blar_: what do you want from seveas? the java and w32codecs are available as a torrent02:21
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vladuz976nalioth, thanks02:22
phlegmvladuz976: google for the guide and then use the google cache.02:22
cevizogluc0rrupt_, if you're sure your network can be detected on boot, not sure why it's slow.  I get the same problem when I've set to an interface that's not there02:22
Seveasnalioth, I still give people access though ;)02:22
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rubemi do what?02:22
Seveasthe restrictioin is just to keep my bandwidth under control :)02:22
vladuz976phlegm, good idea, thanks02:22
c0rrupt_set what to an interface thats not there..02:22
MorimandoCossins, made any progress?02:22
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CossinsMorimando: nope02:22
rubemmount /dev/hda7 /mnt/hda7 umask=0000 ?02:22
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CossinsMorimando: i battled this for 2 days now02:22
tritiumvladuz976, phlegm the ubuntuguide is not advised anyway02:23
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dooglusBlueEagle: well, I removed all those packages again, and this time gnome-terminal works.  Huh???02:23
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vladuz976tritium, why not?02:23
CossinsMorimando: the worst thing is I have no idea at what level the error occurs02:23
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tritium!ubuntuguide02:24
ubotuwell, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.02:24
Morimandodon't ask me02:24
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vladuz976!faq02:24
ubotuI heard faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy)02:24
c0rrupt_cevizoglu, i think it might be my drivers.. im going to switch back to ndiswrapper real quick.02:24
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vladuz976tritium, well i am still on hoary02:25
rubemcan I "reload" the mounted file system from the fstab after umonting them?02:25
tritiumvladuz976, in the meantime, the UserDocumentation wiki page is _very_ useful02:25
Morimandouhm i don't want to disappoint you Cossins but apparently reinstalling and THEN reconfiguring X worked02:25
vladuz976tritium, ok02:25
dooglusCossins: which version of ubuntu are you running?02:25
rubemanyone????02:25
Cossinsdooglus: breezy, latest repository update02:26
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dooglusCossins: could you pastebin your xorg.conF?02:26
rubem???02:26
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Vespolihow can I install a mp3 player  ?02:26
Vespoliwhat are some good mp3 players out there02:26
rubemVespoli: apt-get install xmms02:27
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nalioth!tell Vespoli about mp302:27
Vespolixmms crashed last time I tried it02:27
Cossinsdooglus: i could - how do i do that in irssi? you know what, I think i'll just upload it to some server02:27
Vespoli:'(02:27
rubemhum02:27
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dooglusCossins: it's a website - you don't use the IRC client02:27
rubemuse a java mp3 player then02:27
VespoliOMG02:27
Vespolino java xD02:27
rubemwhy?02:27
naliothtritium: that looks like my dog02:27
naliothtritium: for real02:27
dooglushttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl02:27
tritiumnalioth, oh yeah?02:27
rubemYou could use java webstart02:27
rubemyou may not even have to install02:28
Seveastritium, OMFGROFLOLPIMP :)02:28
naliothtritium: or maybe a precursor mascot mockup for "Stinky Skunk"???02:28
Cossinsdooglus: http://www.simononline.dk/arkiv/xorg.conf02:28
Seveas</aol>02:28
Vespolisaying java is good because its multi-platform is like saying that anal sex is good because it works on all animals02:28
tritiumVespoli, you can build your own java .deb from Sun's .bin, and make-jpkg from java-package02:28
x[BrB] xi can't see my 2nd HHD on k3b02:28
tritiumSeveas, :)02:28
rubemwhell...02:28
rubemwel...02:28
naliothVespoli: you using breezy or hoary?02:28
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Vespolibreezy02:28
Vespoli5.1002:28
rubemjava is not good becouse is multi-plataform02:28
LincTeKhey everyone is there a key to press when booting ubuntu to get to the command line before the graphical login screen ?02:28
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Vespolirubem, you're right02:28
rubemis good beause their api02:28
dooglusCossins: did you try adding the local font server line?02:29
FatDarrelLincTeK, yeah02:29
FatDarrelCTRL-ALT-F102:29
Vespoliits good because its so fuking sloooooow02:29
rubemhahahah02:29
dooglusCossins: "FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server"02:29
TokenBadanyone know why apt-get will not install something and why it gives the error it gives?02:29
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rubemjava is not slow, you that have a slow computer :P02:29
rubemjust kidding02:29
dooglusor rather,            FontPath        "unix/:7100"                    # local font server02:29
rubem:P02:29
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cevizogluVespoli, is that like saying that using windows is like ana... uh..02:29
Cossinsdooglus: tried it... didn't make a difference02:29
LincTeKthanks darrel02:29
rubemtry it, you will not regret02:29
LincTeKi thought it was something like that02:30
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LincTeKi busted breezy and need to fix it LOL02:30
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fossahey, i was following instructions to use ndiswrapper to get my wifi thing working. the last thing was to add the line 'ndiswrapper' to some kind of configuration file. what file was it?02:30
naliothVespoli: you can get java here http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/02:31
Seveasfossa, /etc/modules02:31
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fossayeah!02:31
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x[BrB] xi can't see my 2nd HHD on k3b02:31
Morimandoah ndiswrapper.. need to look at that too..02:31
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c0rrupt_well that didnt work02:31
rubemmp3 player: http://www.javazoom.net/jlgui/jlgui.html02:31
djm62x[BrB] x: are you still here? what filesystem is on the disk?02:31
dooglusCossins: what do you see if you "ls /usr/share/X11/fonts"?02:31
MorimandoMaybe I won't, if Marvell WLAN is included somewhere in kernel02:32
rubemwell02:32
fossathanks!02:32
Seveastritium,02:32
Seveashttp://ubuntulinux.nl/quotes?minid=3 ;)02:32
x[BrB] xjust mp302:32
fossabtw it didn'twork. my laptop wifi still doesn't work.02:32
x[BrB] x:)02:32
psusiok, seriously now... what do you have to install to build the damn kernel?  I would think that the kernel source package would install any needed dependencies, but no... things like string.h and unistd.h arne't anywhere to be found... also installed the gcc 3 package02:32
sellstritium: hey Mike, what is up02:32
fossa'invalid driver'02:32
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locomortofossa: what card do you have?02:32
tritiumCool, Seveas :)02:32
c0rrupt_any other ideas for networking start hang on boot?02:32
tritiumsells, hey dude.  How are you?02:32
djm62x[BrB] x: when I said what filesystem...is it a linux filesystem? a windows XP one? NTFS or FAT?02:32
Cossinsdooglus: what i'm supposed to... encodings and misc02:32
rubemanyone know what to put in the fstab do mount a ntfs partition and allow read only access for all users?02:32
fossaintel pro bg220002:32
sellstritium: good and you02:32
locomortofossa: and it doesn't work?02:33
rubemis any brazilian here?02:33
sellstritium: you back home now02:33
fossano02:33
locomortofossa: my one worked out of the box02:33
Seveasrubem, #ubuntu-br02:33
cevizoglurubem, the ro in your stab is for read-only02:33
dooglusCossins: you don't see all 5? "100dpi 75dpi encodings misc Type1" ?02:33
_n00blar_Seveas, ty...I got the codecs :)02:33
fossaw29n51 - invalid driver02:33
djm62x[BrB] x: can you access it in all your other programs?02:33
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nalioth!tell rubem about ntfs02:33
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tritiumsells, fine, thanks.  Yes, I'm home in NM.02:33
locomortofossa: I'm stumped really02:33
Cossinsdooglus: no, I haven't installed those now, because I just uninstalled everything X-related to see if it made a difference :-)02:33
locomortofossa: bitch to talioth02:34
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x[BrB] xdjw62i cant browse my 2nd hhd on my desktop but when i try to browse it using k3b... i cant see it02:34
rubemcan you give me a example of fstab02:34
sellstritium: cool, nice to be graduated, I know02:34
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fossai wish i knew of a file you could dcc me02:34
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x[BrB] xdjw62i can browse my 2nd hhd on my desktop but when i try to browse it using k3b... i cant see it02:34
fossamy laptop is a dell latitude 61002:34
slackermagichello everyone02:34
x[BrB] xdjw62 i can browse my 2nd hhd on my desktop but when i try to browse it using k3b... i cant see it02:34
slackermagicI just have a quick question02:34
tritiumsells, indeed.  Being back to work, well, that's not so great...02:34
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c0rrupt_does anyone here use captive-ntfs?02:34
djm62x[BrB] x: ok02:34
rubemcan you give me a example of fstab that allow users to access a read-only partition?02:34
sellstritium: again, I know, now that I am gone form Colorado02:34
SuperQc0rrupt_: I've used it02:34
slackermagickde comes with ubuntu I suppose?02:34
ChillyWilly85hey guys...i've been trying all day...I keep trying to resize my NTFS partition during the install of Ubuntu, and it just won't work...02:35
slackermagicor let's say ubuntu comes with kde? :P02:35
locomortoslackermagic: in kubuntu02:35
djm62x[BrB] x: can you type "mount" in a terminal?02:35
c0rrupt_you have to patch the linux kernel to use it now right?02:35
Seveas/dev/hda1       /mnt/windows    ntfs    ro,uid=dennis,gid=dennis,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 0 002:35
fossano, kde is extra02:35
tritiumWhere are you now, sells?  You haven't been around much lately.  What's up?02:35
Seveas6-- rubem02:35
LincTeKslacker can be installed02:35
slackermagicah ok just wanted to make sure02:35
sellstritium: I am now in el paso, at Fort Bliss02:35
slackermagicduring the installation or afterwards that is?02:35
locomortoslackermagic: you can install ubuntu and then install kubuntu-desktop02:35
sorush20will there is nothing as sofisticated as the acdsee02:35
rubemi'll try seveas02:35
sorush20version 602:35
tritiumsells, oh, wow02:35
x[BrB] xok02:35
c0rrupt_superq?02:35
sellstritium: been busy with my new j.o.b.02:35
djm62x[BrB] x: and find out from that where your second hdd is mounted02:35
c0rrupt_you have to patch the linux kernel to use it now right?02:35
fossabrb02:35
sellstritium: I have been here about 3 weeks02:35
locomortoslackermagic: or you could just get kubuntu if you want kde02:35
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c0rrupt_thats a bitch if you have to compile kernel02:36
ChillyWilly85does anyone have any advice for me?02:36
djm62x[BrB] x: then you navigate to there in k3b (it doesn't have the gnome shortcuts, that's all)02:36
tritiumsells, good to see you again02:36
sellstritium: thanks, same here02:36
ChillyWilly85is there such a thing as the partition being "locked" or something?02:36
rafHello. For some odd reason, xine (and other programs) is no longer playing my movies because the DivX plugin is missing... yet it is there. I tried to reinstall it but the shell prompts that it need not be installed since the current version is the latest one. I tried to restart my computer, but nothing. Anyone?02:36
sellstritium: I am going back for my masters in January02:36
x[BrB] x/dev/hda5 on /media/0 GB Disk (hda5) type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0111,dmask=0000)02:36
Seveasmaybe it needs a newer divx then available raf02:36
slackermagiclocomorto: friend wants me to guide him how to set up linux, I think ubuntu is a great distro for him...has great community but I've personally never used it..so just trying to get some info before I guide him on that big step02:36
vladuz976tritium, on the wiki there is script that adds repos and installs codecs. but it's broken. do you know what repos i need to add and how?02:36
locomortoslackermagic: set him up with gnome02:37
rubemseveas: did not work :(02:37
Seveasraf, which version of w32codecs do you have?02:37
locomortoslackermagic: most of the nifty tools are only in gnome02:37
slackermagicKubuntu definetely comes with less packages preinstalled according to distrowatch02:37
tritiumvladuz976, what packages do you need?02:37
Seveasrubem, i'm not surprised02:37
Maynothhey what do you guys think about autopackage.org02:37
phlegmgrrr apt pinning is not working. I did an apt-rebuild and installed the resulting packages. they have the same version as the online packages. Should this work? Package:libtunepimp-bin02:37
phlegmPin: version 0.3.0-2ubuntu7*02:37
phlegmPin-Priority: 10002:37
djm62x[BrB] x: and if you go to /media in k3b?02:37
slackermagiclocomorto: I suppose I'll do that..worst case we can add KDE afterwards as well02:37
rubemseveas: why ?02:37
Seveasrubem, best thing to do: make sure you unmount the drive and run the script at the url ubuntu will give you02:37
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Seveas!tell rubem about ntfs02:37
vladuz976tritium, all the mp3 stuff02:37
locomortoslackermagic: Wait till breezy comes out though02:37
MaynothI installed gaim using a .package and it was just as easy as a windows installer02:37
locomortoslackermagic: Its coming out on oct 1302:37
ChillyWilly85can anyone please help me with setting up my partitions so i can get linux installed?02:37
SeveasMaynoth, and just as evil02:38
Seveasyou just messed up your system02:38
ssdd65are the pkgs for ubuntu really optimized for "all" archetcters?02:38
Maynothit worked perfect02:38
rubemseveas: can I reaload the fstab info?02:38
Maynothno problems been a few weeks02:38
slackermagiclocomorto: thanks again and thanks LincTeK ;)02:38
Seveasruben mount -o remount -a02:38
tritiumvladuz976, did you see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats ?02:38
Riddellslackermagic: the packages in kubuntu match those in ubuntu very closely02:38
Riddellslackermagic: distrowatch doesn't list as many KDE packages is all02:38
x[BrB] xdjw62 bash: /media: is a directory02:38
x[BrB] xpatrick@Patrick:~$ /media in k3b02:38
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MaynothI heard programs are going to be easier to install in breezy any truth to that???????????02:39
tritiumMaynoth, but there's a gaim .deb02:39
TokenBadanyone know why apt-get will not install something and why it gives the error it gives?02:39
SeveasMaynoth, yes02:39
locomortoRiddel: but gnome has lots of admin utils that kubuntu does not have02:39
ssdd65are the pkgs for ubuntu really optimized for "all" archetcters?02:39
vladuz976tritium, yes, i don't know how to set up the repo the script didn't finish and messed up my sources.list02:39
tritiumMaynoth, autopackage will be supported02:39
Riddelllocomorto: any specific examples?02:39
vladuz976tritium, can i see your sources.list for reference02:39
djm62x[BrB] x: hang on, I'll start k3b here02:39
Maynothi tried the .deb gaim 1.5 but it did not set up my icons for me02:39
vladuz976tritium, i also need the nvidia drivers02:39
locomortoRiddell: boot, network-manager, update-manager02:39
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Maynothautopackage did02:40
Maynoth100% as easy as windows02:40
Maynothit was cool02:40
Riddelllocomorto: what does boot do?02:40
ssdd65are the pkgs for ubuntu really optimized for "all" archetcters?02:40
tritiumvladuz976, those are in restricted02:40
Seveasssdd65, no02:40
tritiumvladuz976, I'm running breezy02:40
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locomortoRiddell: edits the grub .conf02:40
ssdd65y dose the gnome one read that it is?02:40
Riddelllocomorto: knetworkconf, and you'll be pleased to know I added adept package manager and updater to kubuntu-desktop some moments ago02:40
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djm62Maynoth: some of us don't want it to be as difficult as winders ;) seriously, choose a package management solution and go with it, but mixing them really isn't recommended02:40
MorimandoCossins, did you completely reinstall xserver-xorg?02:40
vladuz976tritium, so how do i find out what repos to add02:41
locomortoRiddell: adept is nice, I'll admit that02:41
CossinsMorimando: yes... I tried everything in my power (afaik)02:41
MaynothSeveas:  how does that work in breezy?  How will it make installing programs easier?02:41
Riddelllocomorto: ok, grub editor is now a dapper goal :)02:41
tritiumvladuz976, I'm not sure what script you're referring to.  There are instructions on the wiki for how to add repos yourself02:41
SbCl3having a problem...when i installed the mbr was on a hdd that i now want to take out. how do i install grub to the mbr of a different hdd?02:41
locomortoRiddell: it just crashes alot02:41
rubemSeveas02:41
Seveasdjm62, and autopackage is absolute <insert colorful curse here> :)02:41
Maynothit seems to work ok for me...  has an unistall feature and everything02:41
locomortoRiddell: network-tools is really nice as well02:41
Morimandohuh, but it sounded like the same error... and it was cured with the reinstalling and the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:41
Seveasyeck, so evil02:41
Riddelllocomorto: have you reported any of the crashes?  (it would be very useful if you could, bugs.kde.org is the place)02:41
Seveasthat's what apt is for02:41
rubemSevas: i umount all the partions, chaged fstab and gave the command you wrote, but did not work!02:41
x[BrB] xdjw62 got it thanks!02:41
djm62x[BrB] x: in k3b, you should see the "root" entry at the bottom.  /media is a subentry in that02:42
ssdd65Seveas,  y is it that the gnome one reads that it is? (im tryin to optimize my system)02:42
Seveaswhen you use autopackage crud you are so messing up apt02:42
SbCl3anyone?02:42
SbCl3having a problem...when i installed the mbr was on a hdd that i now want to take out. how do i install grub to the mbr of a different hdd?02:42
djm62x[BrB] x: ah, too late...all good02:42
Seveasssdd65, please repeat that in english...02:42
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TokenBadanyone know why apt-get will not install something and why it gives the error it gives?02:42
ChillyWilly85Can anyone help me: I can't get my NTFS partition to resize...and since it is the full size of my HDD I can't install linux...I want to keep the NTFS partition 'cause I still need things on it (music and such)02:42
tritiumTokenBad, please be more specific02:42
SeveasTokenBad, not if you don't give the error02:42
ssdd65why is it that on the package page, gnome reads that it is optimized for "all" systems?02:42
x[BrB] xdjw62 is there a way i can rename of my 2nd hdd on my desktop?02:42
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locomortoRiddell: I'm not saying kubuntu is bad, far from it02:43
locomortoRiddell: I really like it02:43
MaynothBut if it causes no problems how is it messing up apt... Am I missing something?02:43
Riddelllocomorto: I know, I'm just looking for feedback :)02:43
rlfmajor apologies, guys. my router disconnected for some reason. So has anyone answered my above query?02:43
tritiumvladuz976, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto02:43
Seveasssdd65, which package and where do you read that?02:43
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djm62x[BrB] x: on your desktop, just right-click on the icon02:43
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cevizogluneed to count the days till apple releases intel powerbook and I go to dual-boot heaven  :D02:44
locomortoRiddell: I will say this though, krusader is nice, and lipstick is a great choice02:44
djm62Maynoth: in the same way that an uninsulated live wire causes no problems...just don't touch it ;)02:44
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Tyller_Durdeni try install amsn 0.9.5 but he needs TkCximage02:44
Tyller_Durdenhow i can install02:44
Seveasdjm62, :)02:44
locomortoRiddell: ie I dislike using konqueror as a file broswer02:44
SeveasTyller_Durden, apt-get install amsn02:44
Seveasjust to drag in the deps)02:44
locomortoSeveas: i thought amsn was broken in hoary?02:45
ssdd65Seveas, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/gnome/gnome it says it on this page...02:45
Seveasthen remove it again and install the newer version02:45
Tyller_DurdenSeveas, i want de new amsn02:45
karimw786Hi all, I am having the hardest time getting mplayer to work on hoary02:45
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delltonyis there a shell command to mount a p2k phone? i know i can use moto4lin to access the phone in p2k mode but i wanted to create some dirs on the phone and don't appear to have that option in moto4lin02:45
Tyller_Durdende apt have just the 0.9.402:45
Maynothanyone know what kernel breezy is gonna use02:45
SeveasTyller_Durden, read the later lines too02:45
leopardMade it....a little late.02:45
locomortoSeveas: I remember seeing a guide in the forums to install properly02:45
Maynoth2.6.13.1?02:45
SeveasMaynoth, 2.6.1202:45
Maynothoh02:45
Tyller_Durdeni do this02:45
Seveasssdd65, where do you read optimized?02:45
leopardlol it's the breezy kernel I'm running with updates02:45
x[BrB] xdjw62 its says i dont have permission02:46
leopard2.6.12-802:46
Seveasthe package is simply available on all supported architectures...02:46
djm62x[BrB] x: permission to do what?02:46
rlfokay, so a few hours ago, xine was working alright and playing my movies and everything. All of a sudden, after trying to play another movie again, xine asked me to reinstall DivX codecs (and for another movie, Microsoft MPEG4 or something to that extent). I tried to reinstall all the packages, but it never worked and wouldn't show anything (albeit play the sound). What could have happened?02:46
x[BrB] xdjw62 i cant click the rename option02:46
ssdd65ooo nvm02:46
Seveasrlf, you might need a newer w32codecs, which one do you have?02:46
c0rrupt_seveas does captive-ntfs work with the latest kernels?02:46
tritiumlocomorto, what were you doing last night when you pinged all the ops?02:47
Seveasc0rrupt_, ENOCLUE02:47
Maynothso anyone know what breezy is doing different to make application isntallation easier?02:47
karimw786I've tried using apt-get as suggested in the Unoffial Ubuntu Guide, but still I am having a tough time getting mplayer to work on hoary02:47
Seveastritium, probably being annoying02:47
c0rrupt_lol02:47
locomortorlf: Are you on hoary, and do you have marillat repo on?02:47
Seveashe added crud to the bot too02:47
dbzdeathTyller_Durden: its really easy cd into the amsn directory(default msn from the cvs) and run ./configure  and then run make ... if you get no errors your good to go02:47
tritiumSeveas, yeah, he refuses to answer me02:47
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djm62Maynoth: there is an application where you can search all available packages, and install them with a couple of clicks02:47
Seveas:)02:47
Maynothooh02:48
SbCl3having a problem...when i installed the mbr was on a hdd that i now want to take out. how do i install grub to the mbr of a different hdd?02:48
Maynoththats cool...02:48
tritiumheh02:48
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djm62Maynoth: it's called synaptic, and it's much easier than finding a package (which is kind of stone-age) manually02:48
MaynothI still think autopackage is gonna be the thing that puts linux on par with windows...02:48
Seveasno f*ing way02:48
djm62Maynoth: that's what people here are afraid of02:48
MaynothI dont really like being tied to repositories02:49
SbCl3is /etc/init.d the file that controls what automatically loads at boot?02:49
Seveasonly in the hey-look-it'snow-even-easier-to-mess-up-things way...02:49
Maynoththey never have current versions or the app i want02:49
djm62Maynoth: you don't like thousands of volunteers making sure your computer works?02:49
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tritiumSbCl3, that's a directory in which the initscripts can be found02:49
SeveasMaynoth, ubuntu is *stable* not *bleeding-edge*02:49
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Tyller_Durdendbzdeath, im using a .deb file02:49
Seveasif you want bleeding edge, go for gentoo02:49
djm62Maynoth: if you want /bleeding edge/ you don't want ubuntu....02:49
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c0rrupt_yea and must be linked from /etc/rc0-6.d02:50
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dooglusCossins: I just played about with my xorg.conf file and discovered that I don't even need the 'Section "Files"' part at all.02:50
CossinsSeveas: breezy is more bleeding edge than gentoo, i'm coming directly from there - they are lightyears behind02:50
snausagesbleeding edge. got it.02:50
dooglusCossins: try removing the whole Section02:50
Cossinsdooglus: oh..!02:50
dbzdeathTyller_Durden: oh? ... i thought the latest version would be in the repositories(considering it is quite old)02:50
Cossinshmm, let's try that02:50
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Maynothwell more like I want to be able to install 3rd party software without being tied to a repository that may or may not have it02:50
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djm62Maynoth: but most people don't want bleeding edge, they want to use their computers02:50
SeveasColonelKernel, that'll last only for a few weeks02:50
cevizogludjm62, in distrowatch, almost all the packages are the same version as current in development02:50
dooglusCossins: of course, it might still be that you need to have the fonts that you've not installed.02:50
ngmlinux_How can I ping a host on a specific port?02:50
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c0rrupt_LOL^02:50
djm62cevizoglu: why was that directed to me?02:50
Seveasand from december to april all clueless bleeding-edge-wannabes will start whining about more recent versions02:51
JDahlwhat do I need to setup Wifi under Breezy for the Atheros chipset? my wireless card is not listed under network connections02:51
c0rrupt_ngmlinux_, thats not how pings work02:51
Seveas</bitter>02:51
dooglusngmlinux_: you can try telnetting to a particular port02:51
MaynothI like the freedom of being able to download software off a 3rd parties website and install it02:51
c0rrupt_you can connect to someone on a certain port .. use telnet or netcat02:51
snausagesMaynoth i kinda agree with you02:51
Maynoththats just me and 100,000,000 million others though02:51
cevizogludjm62, you said if you want bleeding edge you don't want ubuntu02:51
Maynothhehe02:51
dooglusngmlinux_: or use nmap02:51
ngmlinux_you can't "ping 127.0.0.1:80"02:51
Cossinsdooglus: I tried removing the Files section, which didn't make a difference - i'll try installing the missing fonts now02:51
c0rrupt_lmfao02:51
ngmlinux_or something like that?02:51
tritiumMaynoth, you exaggerate02:51
djm62Maynoth: which is a completely valid trade-off, it's just not what most people make02:51
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rlflocomorto, yes I am on hoary, and I am not sure what this repo is. Seveas, is there anyway to check my w32codecs version, because I have no idea how. But bear in mind that everything worked harmoniously a few hours ago, with no update whatsoever.02:51
Maynothlol02:51
Maynothyeah02:51
SeveasMaynoth, by all means do, but don't come in here crying when you messed things up02:51
ngmlinux_dooglus, can you give me some syntax for that?02:51
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Maynothi won't...02:52
Seveasrlf, dpkg -l w32codecs02:52
Seveaslatest version is ii  w32codecs      20050412-0.0   win32 binary codecs02:52
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djm62Maynoth: you own a computer, you are free to use it however you want, but there's a trade off between getting something before it's been tested and integrated, and getting something reliable02:52
Maynothactually I messed up and had to reformat my partition with hoary using synaptic02:52
helphello all02:52
cevizogludjm62, ubuntu always has a bleeding edge version - the level of bleeding-edge varies over the six month release period02:52
Maynothbefore i even knew about autopackage02:52
rlfSeveas, 20050216-0.002:52
Cossinsdooglus: hmm, what packages contains the 100dpi and 75dpi fonts?02:52
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zxsykcoAhoy!02:52
snausagesi agree with Maynoth. i wanted to get gaim 1.5 and was told that i'm "playing with disaster," which is kind of funny. can a simple IM client screw up everything?02:52
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JDahlactually my Wifi popped up after a reboot...02:52
Seveasrlf, then get the newest from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl :)02:52
djm62Maynoth: choose, but don't disparage other people's choice02:52
Maynothsnausages02:52
tritiumMaynoth, that doesn't make sense02:52
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Maynothyou can get the .package of gaim 1.5 and it worked great02:53
dooglusCossins: just a mo & I'll look.02:53
snausagesMaynoth i know that, but it's not in the hoary repo02:53
Maynothgoto gaims website02:53
Maynothyou can get the .package02:53
cevizogluMaynoth, huh?  synaptic can reformat hard drives?02:53
snausagesi already got it02:53
Maynothand it installs like an EXE in windows02:53
djm62cevizoglu: it's not an ubuntu release, though....I've used sid, and I wouldn't present it as "debian"02:53
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helpto someone new to linux like myself... I could understand the idea of being turned off by backports... Although on Windows everything is basically a backport the last thing or one of the last I expected was to find out playing DVD's in A,merica was illegal...02:53
SeveasMaynoth, don't recommend that to others since it's unsupportable.02:53
X3ndouHow do you unmount something on command line02:53
CossinsX3ndou: umount <something>02:54
cevizogludjm62, what I mean is, breezy is the currently bleeding-edge version02:54
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X3ndou.. ;P02:54
ngmlinux_anybody know some ping equivalent syntax to test if a port is open?02:54
rubemSeveas: it worked!02:54
SeveasIt's perfectly fine if you want to mess up your system, but don't recommend it in here02:54
rubemSeveas:  mount /dev/hda7 -t ntfs /mnt/hda7 -o ro,user,umask=000002:54
dooglusCossins: xfonts-100dpi and xfonts-75dpi02:54
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Maynothyou right click it and give it executable permissions and it installs no problem02:54
Cossinsdooglus: right - it says those are already installed, which I don't believe since they are not in /usr/share/X11/fonts02:54
tritiumMaynoth, synaptic could not have buggered up your system to where you needed to reformat02:54
cevizogludjm62, and in a few months when it's no longer bleeding edge, the next unstable version will be bleeding-edge02:54
x[BrB] xdjw62 Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:02:54
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Maynothwell i did02:54
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dooglusCossins: "apt-get --reinstall install <package>"02:54
c0rrupt_Lol02:54
dbzdeathhelp: nuts it is illegal? then it must be illegal two times over here(Australia)02:55
Cossinsdooglus: yes02:55
tritiumMaynoth, yes _you_ did, but not synaptic02:55
hoslerWhats a good window manger for a laptop. I dont want to take up too much resources.02:55
ngmlinux_anybody know some ping equivalent syntax to test if a port is open?02:55
djm62cevizoglu: yeah, I know that, but it isn't an ubuntu release, and I would never recommend people who didn't know the ins-and-outs to install an unstable distro02:55
ngmlinux_gnome02:55
dooglusCossins: I had this problem when I moved from the hedgehog to the badger.02:55
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dooglusCossins: I think there may be a symlink somewhere messing things up, but I don't remember the details.02:55
ngmlinux_hosler, gnome less resources than kde02:55
Seveasngmlinux_, nmap02:56
c0rrupt_ngmlinux_, dont use ping to port scan.. there is no such thing02:56
c0rrupt_apt-get install nmap02:56
cevizogludjm62, yeah, unless they've got a machine they can afford to mess with02:56
dooglusCossins: run "ls -ld" on /usr/share, /usr/share/X11 and /usr/share/X11/fonts and check if any of the are symlinks02:56
djm62cevizoglu: well, people whose clue extends as far as "bigger version numbers are better", and who ask for help in #supportchannels02:56
rubemthank you, everybody, for the help!02:56
rubemexit02:56
cevizogludjm62, yeah02:56
Cossinsdooglus: still same problem02:56
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dooglusCossins: they shouldn't be02:56
rubemops, i am not at console :P02:56
curehow do i register my name on this server?02:56
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djm62x[BrB] x: have you tried gnomebaker? it might work better on your system (you are using gnome on ubuntu, right?)02:57
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tritiumcure, /msg nickserv help02:57
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curethx02:57
x[BrB] xdjw62 yes02:57
Cossinsdooglus: none of them are02:57
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cevizogludjm62, yeah, my $0.02 is there has to be a specific technology they have to suffer over to merit using an unstable release02:57
ChillyWilly85Can anyone help me: I can't get my NTFS partition to resize...and since it is the full size of my HDD I can't install linux...I want to keep the NTFS partition 'cause I still need things on it (music and such)02:58
x[BrB] xdjw62 whre can i get gnomebaker02:58
ngmlinux_aha02:58
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c0rrupt_ngmlinux_, apt-get install nmap02:58
djm62x[BrB] x: sudo aptitude install gnomebaker02:58
ngmlinux_how can I open ports in ubuntu02:58
x[BrB] xok02:58
djm62x[BrB] x: it's free02:58
ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, i installed and used it already02:58
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Versedvia the router?02:58
c0rrupt_so what are you trying to do?02:58
vbgunz_not watching a DVD is exactly illegal but the codec on Linux I believe is... bottom line is Linux doesn't legally support DVD playback in America otherwise Linux would most likely ship with DVD playback already enabled... Just one of the things that bothered me02:58
ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, open up a port02:58
ngmlinux_a specific port02:58
c0rrupt_on your computer?02:58
ngmlinux_yes02:58
c0rrupt_just type02:59
rlfmucho thanks, Seveas. it's downloading now. :)02:59
c0rrupt_nc -l -p theport02:59
vbgunz_sorry, got disconnected... thought maybe the last comment didn't get through...02:59
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vbgunz_sorry...02:59
ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, ok...02:59
djm62cevizoglu: I tend to agree...I did a nasty backport of electricsheep because the old version /didn't work/ (protocol change at the server).  short of that, people think that versions matter more than they do02:59
c0rrupt_does kubuntu come with netcat?02:59
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ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, how long does that usually take?02:59
c0rrupt_ngmlinux_, if not just type apt-get install netcat02:59
Riddellc0rrupt_: yes03:00
c0rrupt_oh ok03:00
c0rrupt_how long does what take03:00
c0rrupt_after you run the command the port is open..03:00
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x[BrB] xdjw62 can i reinstall my gnome?03:00
c0rrupt_but i dont see the point just a listening port isning going to do anything03:00
inan_.03:00
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djm62cevizoglu: although, (and this should be on #ubutu-offtopic by now) there might need to be a policy about that and things like it (IMs spring to ming)03:00
c0rrupt_what exactly are you trying to do03:00
ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, but it never gave me my prompt back in the shell03:00
x[BrB] xdjw62 can i uninstall my gnome?03:00
inan_k03:00
c0rrupt_its because its running03:00
ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, like it's locked up or something03:00
djm62x[BrB] x: the whole desktop?03:00
c0rrupt_just type03:00
c0rrupt_ctrl + c03:00
c0rrupt_its not locked up its just idling03:00
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djm62x[BrB] x: of course you can...will you know what you're doing without it?03:01
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ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, i know how to break it, I just expected it would exit when done03:01
c0rrupt_done with what?03:01
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c0rrupt_it has to be running to keep the port open03:01
x[BrB] xforget it :)03:01
x[BrB] xhahaha03:01
dooglusCossins: I just tried removing everything from /usr/share/X11/fonts.  it broke X.  putting *just* misc back fixed it again for me.03:01
inan_help pls.. how to add wine?03:01
c0rrupt_its not daemonized or anything03:01
dooglusCossins: so what do you have in misc?03:01
c0rrupt_but what are you trying to do03:01
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ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, trying to open port 102403:02
Cossinsdooglus: a whole lot of pcf.gz files03:02
c0rrupt_...03:02
c0rrupt_lmfao03:02
c0rrupt_why?03:02
Cossinsdooglus: interestingly, ls *fixed* says there is nothing...03:02
c0rrupt_found some leet hax on port 1024?03:02
c0rrupt_buahahaha03:02
ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, so that my machine can be accessed03:02
c0rrupt_you want it to be accessed just use ssh03:02
vbgunz_is anyone here on Breezy? I believe I have a problem specific to Breezy and would like someones input on it. For some reason every time I start up Ubuntu, every single drive and partition with information on it pops up in a Window on start up... Is this normal? It is a pain to close out 5+ windows on every boot...03:02
ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, i have a server that needs to talk to this machine on that port03:02
dooglusCossins: for me too.03:02
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c0rrupt_but just an open port wont do much03:03
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djm62x[BrB] x: I use gnomebaker to burn audio CDs, from both mp3 and ogg.  You might also like it, and it's more part of your desktop than k3b03:03
c0rrupt_you can put anything it recieves into a text file03:03
karimw786anyone here able to get mplayer working on hoary??03:03
dooglusCossins: "find /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc -type f | wc -l" ?03:03
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rlfquit03:03
ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, i have applications written for both machines03:03
rubemit's me again03:03
c0rrupt_type in nc -l -p 1024 -v >server.txt03:03
ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, what will that command do?03:03
rubemanyone can tell me if ubuntu has official apt repositories list?03:03
c0rrupt_that will open up a port03:03
ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, does that open the port?03:03
tritiumdooglus, why would you remove those?03:03
c0rrupt_and when someone connects to it03:04
ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, ok i'll try03:04
dooglustritium: sorry?03:04
c0rrupt_all the data that is recieved03:04
x[BrB] xdjw62 aside from k3b are there other softwarer that are user friendly??03:04
Cossinsdooglus: 17103:04
c0rrupt_is thrown into server.txt03:04
dooglusCossins: 172 here !03:04
tritiumdooglus, everything under /usr/share/X11/fonts03:04
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ngmlinux_i don't want to through data into server.txt03:04
zblachwhy is ubuntu soooo sloww?03:04
ngmlinux_i just want the port open03:04
djm62x[BrB] x: as I said, I like gnomebaker03:04
x[BrB] xdjw62 have you tried nerolinux?03:04
Cossinsdooglus: soo!!03:04
c0rrupt_nc -l -p 1024 opens the port just fine03:04
tritiumzblach, what are you talking about?03:04
x[BrB] xoic03:04
dooglustritium: I'm trying to help Cossins.  was checking which fonts are needed for X to start.03:04
ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, it never finishes03:04
c0rrupt_,,,03:05
djm62x[BrB] x: nope, I have some software which works, and I like, and I'm happy to stick with it03:05
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c0rrupt_ngmlinux_, there is no such thing as "finishes"03:05
ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, never exits03:05
ngmlinux_to the shell03:05
c0rrupt_its wont03:05
c0rrupt_until someone connects03:05
zblachtritium, all the sudden, my computer is really slow in ubuntu03:05
c0rrupt_and then disconnects..03:05
vbgunz_just looked up nero linux... looks ok03:05
c0rrupt_watch03:05
dooglusCossins: reinstall xfonts-base03:05
c0rrupt_fire up another konsole03:05
c0rrupt_or w/e ur using03:05
djm62I think it's a thin wrapper around something Free03:05
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djm62(nerolinux)03:05
c0rrupt_and type.. nc localhost -v 102403:06
tritiumzblach, since when?  What changed since you perceived it to be faster?03:06
Cossinsdooglus: still 17103:06
vbgunz_hey zblach... are you on Breezy? Is your processor usage up to 100%?03:06
c0rrupt_and it connects to the open port03:06
ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, oh, i see03:06
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nybblenero...eh...03:06
ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, but i want to leave that port open03:06
zblachtritium, it just seems to be getting slower. i haven't used it all weekend, and now that I am, it seems slow.03:06
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vbgunz_the other day I found Breezy to be constantly using 100%... I had to kill the update manager that was running in the background...03:06
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zblachvbgunz, i'm using hoary03:07
ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, 24/703:07
c0rrupt_well03:07
c0rrupt_you can03:07
c0rrupt_you need another version of netcat03:07
x[BrB] xdjw62 does it burn fast??03:07
nybblevbgunz_ i havent notized that problem03:07
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ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, why is it closed in the first place?03:07
c0rrupt_and you can use -L to make it re-open the port after disconnect03:07
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c0rrupt_why is that port closed?03:07
ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, yes03:07
c0rrupt_because no service is running on that port..03:07
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dbagud day peps!03:07
c0rrupt_ports just dont open yourself..03:07
dooglusCossins: "ls -ld /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/misc" ?03:07
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djm62x[BrB] x: eh, it has variable speeds, I haven't experimented (CDRs cost money)03:07
c0rrupt_you shoudl read about basic networking03:07
ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, unless it's firewalled it hoguht they're all left open?03:08
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c0rrupt_no03:08
c0rrupt_the opposite03:08
Cossinsdooglus: yes, it's there, nothing in it though03:08
c0rrupt_they are all closed, unless a process opens it03:08
c0rrupt_for communication over tcp or udp etc03:08
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dooglusdooglus: I wondered if that was the extra 1 I had...  maybe I made that useless directory myself...03:08
dooglustalking to myself?  that was meant for Cossins03:09
x[BrB] xdjw62 so how long does you burn your cd?03:09
Cossins:-D03:09
MorimandoCossins shall i tar my /fonts folder and upload it for you? ;)03:09
v|ncei had my ubuntu intalled and i changed my monitor from samsung i changed it with likom and now i got problem with my screen resolution..03:09
djm62x[BrB] x: erm, 10min03:09
CossinsMorimando: no, yours is as useless as mine ;-)03:09
v|ncei need help03:09
x[BrB] xthats fast03:09
Gh0sTim haveing a problem here, i just re installed ubuntu, i've changed my repositories for ubuntuguide.org but its not finding the sun-j2re1.5 package03:09
Morimandowhy? it starts :)03:09
bur[n] er_anyone else try opera with any success or breezy?  the .deb put out by opera doesn't actually work in breezy03:09
vbgunz_yup, the other day my Ubuntu was sluggish... because I have the system monitor on one of my panels I noticed the processor was up constantly at 100%. I fixed it by killing the update manager running in the back...03:09
dooglusCossins: in misc, "ls -l encodings.dir fonts.alias fonts.dir"03:10
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dooglusCossins: do you have all 3 of those?03:10
vbgunz_anyone here start up Ubuntu and is welcomed by 5+ popups of partitions, dvd drives etc?03:10
djm62x[BrB] x: I was going to experiment with optimising, because I've seen it done faster.  but basically I'm not very interested in it: if I can burn mix CDs to take to parties, I'm happy03:10
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vbgunz_I really dislike it already...03:10
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__learner__hello03:10
Cossinsdooglus: nope, no fonts.alias03:10
dooglusCossins: that might be your problem:03:11
ngmlinux_c0rrupt_, ok i got it03:11
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vbgunz_brb03:11
dooglus$ grep fixed fonts.alias | head -103:11
dooglusfixed        -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso8859-103:11
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x[BrB] xdjw62 does it really takes time to load those mp3?? im using gnomebaker03:11
__learner__Do you konw How can I install UBUNTU using  USB mouse and Keyboard? Instalation program doesnt seem to recognize it.03:11
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c0rrupt_k03:11
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david3hello03:11
dooglusCossins: I don't know how that file got there - it's not in any package as far as I can tell.03:12
Cossinsdooglus: how to generate a fonts.alias?03:12
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dooglusCossins: got an email address?  I'll email you mine if you like.  you can pm me it03:12
__learner__I bought new Keyboard and mouse, now ubuntu locks the system, I cant reinstall it because keys dont work on install program...03:12
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v|ncei had my ubuntu intalled and i changed my monitor from samsung i changed it with likom and now i got problem with my screen resolution.. i need help..03:12
Gh0sTim haveing a problem here, i just re installed ubuntu, i've changed my repositories for ubuntuguide.org but its not finding the sun-j2re1.5 package03:12
lexhiderany reason why rhythmbox won't play any files in breezy?03:12
cleaner345345#ubuntu_de03:12
Cossinsyeah, i'm new to this non-gui irssi thing, how to pm in raw irc? ;-)03:12
sproingiei've never had a problem installing with a usb kb03:12
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benplautanyone having problems with gnome-panel, possibly connected to the latest update?03:13
sproingiemaybe your usb controller is flakey03:13
david3can anyone tell me how to upgrade the firmware for a cd-burner if the only available format is an exe file?03:13
djm62!java03:13
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ubotuTo install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java or, for Sun's Java, ask me about !sunjava03:13
Gh0sT!sunjava03:13
ubotuFor Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)03:13
__learner__!usb03:13
ubotu__learner__: No idea03:13
david3Gh0sT, just wait a day or two03:13
MorimandoCossins, /msg nickname test :p03:13
sproingiedavid3: since it likely uses the windows driver interfaces in that exe file, you run it under windows03:14
__learner__!install03:14
ubotusomebody said install was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation03:14
Cossinsthx :)03:14
Morimandochange windows with /window <number>03:14
cleaner345345german irc cahnnel?_03:14
MorimandoI needed to use irssi, two, when I was installing sourcemage ;)03:14
djm62__learner__: you want to be googling the keyboard model to see if anyone else has had problems (although it sounds bizarre to me)03:14
Morimandotwo => too03:14
x[BrB] xdjw62 does it have a filters??03:14
david3Gh0sT, that package is kinda sketchy, i've had the same problem03:14
djm62x[BrB] x: I don't know what  you mean...03:15
Gh0sTv** (gedit:20096): WARNING **: failed request with status 103003:15
alec_Anybody know if cedega is the only way to play Steam games??03:15
nybblealec_ i'm pretty sure03:15
alec_dammit03:15
__learner__alec_ no, you can also play stem under windows. \o/03:15
x[BrB] xfilters like in nero burning rom03:15
chavoalec_, well there's windows also03:15
alec_lol03:15
djm62Gh0sT: there's a link off the main java wiki page which explains how to install java using make-jpkg03:15
x[BrB] xyou can normalized the sounds03:15
david3sproingie, any pointers if i'm avoiding windows like the plauge?03:16
nybblealec_ if you get it and try it, let me know03:16
sproingiedavid3: yes.  don't upgrade the firmware03:16
david3ha03:16
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nybblebenplaut: i've not had any problems with gnome-panel03:16
sproingiedavid3: there is no running that from linux.  forget about wine03:16
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rino0nteGood night from Mexico03:16
benplautbleh03:17
djm62x[BrB] x: I've never used that (or indeed normalised sounds).03:17
cleaner345345german irc cahnnel ubuntu?03:17
nybblenight rino0nte03:17
benplauti'm seriously on the verge of switching to KDE03:17
rino0nteHave a install problem, can some one help me please03:17
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nybblelol03:17
rino0ntejust need guideance03:17
zblachhow is breezy atm?03:17
x[BrB] xdjw62 thanks03:17
nybbleits quite cool03:17
tritiumcleaner345345, #ubuntu-de03:17
x[BrB] x:)03:17
benplautevery f*ing time i reinstall, it's because of Gnome's stupid panel03:17
JDahldavid3, some diehard open-source fanatics keep bootable freedos CDs around for BIOS upgrades etc.03:17
kataklsymis ubuntu a pretty powerful linux os? or is it just a beginner os?03:17
nybble...note the pun03:17
djm62kataklsym: both really03:17
rino0ntekataklysm: debian+fedora03:17
DansFloydwhat driver should i get for my ATI graphic card? x86_64? or x86?03:18
david3JDahl, what's freedos?03:18
JDahldavid3, take a wild guess...03:18
rino0nteHave a install problem, can some one help me please, just need guideance03:18
tritiumrino0nte, fedora?03:18
nybbledavid3: its dos, but its free!03:18
kataklsymdebian power with fedora ease?03:18
Gh0sTW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu.tower-net.de hoary/java Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu.tower-net.de_ubuntu_dists_hoary_java_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)03:18
kataklsymor what?03:18
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kataklsymthose arent really comparable to me03:18
kataklsymheh03:18
david3JDahl, i was just a second too late ;)03:18
rino0ntekataklysm: that ...03:18
kataklsymso its just as good as debian?03:19
JDahldavid3, but smart-arseness aside, you should be able to setup a freedos boot CD for occasions like this03:19
rino0nteGuys, I have installed ubuntu but my keyboard is useless in graphical mode, only the numberrrs in the keypad and the mouse works, have no problem with text mode, any clue?03:19
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nybblekataklsym: yes, and in some respects better03:19
__learner__many people with the same error03:19
__learner__what coukld that be?03:19
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kataklsymi have 5.10 breezy on CD, im currently using RHEL4 on here, was thinking about changing over, because i have been having some unknown problems03:19
djm62__learner__: when you googled it? try clicking on the links03:20
rino0nteGuys, I have installed ubuntu but my keyboard is useless in graphical mode, only the numberrrs in the keypad and the mouse works, have no problem with text mode, any clue?03:20
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david3JDahl, my real problem is that a particular drive isn't loading the linux kernel, swapping out for a different drive fixed the problem--i'm wondering if a firmware upgrade with fix the problem for real03:20
kataklsymi just never really could figure out if ubuntu was one of those OS that was on Suse, Linspire level03:20
kataklsymlol03:20
__learner__djm62: only people relating the same problem no solution at all.03:20
benplauthrm03:20
djm62kataklsym: making random changes in response to unknown problems might not be the best idea...03:20
benplauti wonder if KDE is really that bad...03:20
rino0nteCome on, just a fkng clue03:20
kataklsymi dont have the urge to mess with gentoo either, and i dont like how debian is so backdated03:20
benplauti haven't used it in so long03:20
kataklsymdjm62, its not random changes03:21
kataklsymi have used RHEL since version 203:21
__learner__but most people have this problem on macs.03:21
kataklsymand used all versions of Fedora Core03:21
kataklsymand used RH since 3.003:21
kataklsymso im not changing03:21
kataklsymim just kinda tired of RH03:21
rino0nteGuys, I have installed ubuntu but my keyboard is useless in graphical mode, only the numberrrs in the keypad and the mouse works, have no problem with text mode, any clue?03:21
rino0ntePleasssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee03:21
tritiumkataklsym, you like that Enter key, don't you?03:21
djm62__learner__: it could just be a Problem Keyboard...under uk law, you could return it, YMMV03:21
kataklsymand this problem i have no one can answer what it is, so i thought i would get out of the RPM based distros03:21
kataklsymlol03:21
rino0nteCan't find anything googling...03:21
__learner__it works ok nder Xp...03:22
rino0nteThis is my last resource, (PAPA ROACH)03:22
lee_I know this is going to be a dumb question, but how do I install a .deb package I have localy in ubuntu?03:22
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__learner__lee_ sudo dpkg -i packagename03:22
tritiumlee_, sudo dpkg -i <foo.deb>03:22
djm62kataklsym: unless it's an rpm error, it might be duplicated in ubuntu.  OTOH ubuntu is a good and free distro, and you're unlikely to be upset by switching from rpm to apt...IMHO03:23
lee___learner__, Thanks, I was unable to find that one in the wiki03:23
SpudDogganyone know if there's a good mp3 player built into ubuntu?03:23
__learner__you are welcome03:23
rino0nte__learner__: help please03:23
MadpilotSpudDogg: install the codecs, and Totem or any other app will play mp303:23
nalioth!tell SpudDogg about mp303:23
SpudDoggthank you!03:24
djm62SpudDogg: you need to enable mp3 support (patent issues), then anything you like03:24
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Gh0sTuh whats the cmd to install a .deb file03:24
JDahl!tell JDahl about mp303:24
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__learner__whats the problem rino0nte03:24
kataklsymdjm62: i think it probably is an rpm problem, because i have had to compile a few apps i use from source that didnt have .spec files with the gzip file... thats one thing i hate bout rpm based distros, is how some things u just cant find an rpm, and if u put it on from source it causes dependency splits.. i hate that03:24
tritiumGh0sT, scroll up a few lines ;)03:24
MadpilotGh0sT: "sudo dpkg -i <foo.deb>"03:24
Gh0sThah03:24
Gh0sTty03:24
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rino0nte__learner__: I have installed ubuntu but my keyboard is useless in graphical mode, only the numberrrs in the keypad and the mouse works, have no problem with text mode, any clue?03:25
naliothWASSSSSSSSSSSSSU: please have mercy on us03:25
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tritiumno kidding, WASSSSSSSSSSSSSU03:25
kataklsymwhat window managers does ubuntu install ??  does it put enlightenment or fvwm?03:25
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naliothkataklsym: gnome by default03:25
tritiumgnome is default03:25
naliothkataklsym: all window manglers are available03:25
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benplautWASSSSSSSSSSSSSU, take a hint?03:26
kataklsyminstallable from the cd? or on the repos?03:26
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benplautrepos03:26
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BROKEN_LADDERif anyone's interested, i found a way to get a free "virtual phone number" where you can receive faxes that will be sent to you as pdf's, and voice messages that will be emailed to you.03:26
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__learner__try running debconf03:26
__learner__inj text mode03:26
djm62kataklsym: if you start installing from source, you will probably cause dependency problems eventually.  otoh I do think debian (which feeds ubuntu, as well as vice-versa) has the biggest selection of packages around03:26
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tritiumHi crimsun03:26
doogluswe worked out Cossins' problem : he was missing /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias - that file defines the real name of font 'foxed'03:26
dooglus'fixed'03:26
basttraxhey everyoen03:26
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kataklsymalright thats cool ya all03:26
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basttraxI need some help :(03:26
kataklsymi appreciate it03:27
Cossins3C03:27
kataklsymi will install it here in a few03:27
Cossinsblah!03:27
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kataklsymas soon as i backup my stuff thats 10 years old03:27
__learner__sudo debconf, it worked for me at other time03:27
basttraxcan anyone help me?03:27
kataklsymthanks!!!03:27
rino0nte__learner__: tnx a lot03:27
tchmnkyCan anyone tell me the file with the login prompt text in it? The "Ubuntu Hoary Hedgehog 5.04 \h \t" file?03:27
Gh0sThow do you extract a self extracting .bin file03:27
tchmnkyCan't remember where it is.03:27
Cossinsdooglus: everything is fucked up, I can't switch pages in irssi03:27
rino0nte__learner__: I'll check03:27
basttraxhello?03:27
tritiumCossins, please don't use that kind of language03:27
dooglusCossins: I don't think you're allowed to say 'fuck' in here03:27
sjgtchmnky: I believe that is /etc/issue03:27
zorba64Gh0sT: ./03:27
basttraxcan anyone help me update my ubuntu?03:27
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jcohen85wow- breezy gets a lot of updates. I updated 128 packages this afternoon (after last updating yesterday). I then returned to my computer 2 hours later and found 28 more updates!03:28
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crimsunit's /etc/issue03:28
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nybblettyl y'all03:28
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jeff303anyone have luck installing Adobe Acrobat Reader?03:28
tchmnkysjg, that's what I thought. Appears not to change after killing getty.03:28
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zaighamnot yet03:28
basttraxI need to upgrade from version 4.10 to 5.10... anyone?03:28
Gh0sT./ ?03:28
Gh0sTdoesnt work03:28
Gh0sTlike03:28
sjgtchmnky: /shrug no idea03:28
Gh0sT./blah.bin03:28
v|ncei had my ubuntu intalled and i changed my monitor from samsung i changed it with likom and now i got problem with my screen resolution.. i need help..03:29
tritiumbasttrax, see the topic03:29
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crimsunjeff303: evince in breezy doesn't suffice?03:29
Gh0sTcuz that doesnt work03:29
zorba64Gh0sT: try sh nameoffile.bin03:29
dooglusCossins: does control-n work?03:29
Madpilot!tell v|nce about fixres03:29
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basttraxi read the page, but i'm having some problems03:29
Cossinsdooglus: I'm alright now03:29
jeff303crimsun: I haven't tried it... still on Hoary03:29
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tchmnkysjg - nevermind. I'm being dumb. The previous text of /etc/issue was left at the top of the screen - the new /etc/issue contents followed afterwards. I guess killing getty doesn't blank the tty.03:29
PhuzionHey, how can I be allowed to copy a file to /var/www in KDE if I'm not logged in as root?03:29
jeff303crimsun: but the ones I've tried (xpdf, gpdf, etc) I don't care for since I can't do smooth-scrolling bet. pages03:29
kataklsymWell i guess im gonna install ubuntu on here now!, wish me luck everyone :D03:29
zorba64Gh0sT: you may have to chmod +x nameoffile.bin first03:30
Phuzionkataklsym, have fun!03:30
freeman08how can i add a network printer?03:30
kataklsymI'll try!03:30
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freeman08can anyone help me please03:31
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david3JDahl, did you get that last message from a few minutes ago?03:31
tritiumfreeman08, did you go to System->Administration->Printing?03:31
Phuzion!wiki network printer03:31
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Gh0sTok i unpacked it, now theres a folder with everything in it, where do i go from there? i cant confiure or make it03:32
Phuzion!wiki printer03:32
SpudDoggok, here's a dumb question, and sorry if this is profanity around here...Is there anything Windows can do that Ubuntu cannot?03:32
JDahldavid3, Was it the one where you asked if a firmware update would fix your disk problems? I don't know if it would...03:32
freeman08i cant find the other computers at my network... all i see is the windows computer03:32
MadpilotSpudDogg: get viruses...03:32
CossinsSpudDogg: run Photoshop and games without a buggy emulation layer - else, no03:32
SpudDoggLOL03:32
vis`haha03:32
PhuzionSpudDogg.  Yes, run Office, and crash 20 times in one day.03:32
tritiumfreeman08, did you enable browsing/03:33
tritium?03:33
SpudDoggHAHA...i take it you fellas hate windows03:33
freeman08yup03:33
PhuzionNo me gusta Windows.03:33
naliothSpudDogg: i'm the resident windows hater03:33
holycowPhuzion, rofl03:33
MadpilotSpudDogg: not hate, I just don't have any need to run it anymore...03:33
fossahi i have a basic question. how do i make the files that are on my desktop actually show up on the desktop?03:33
freeman08tritium... is that for windows?03:33
david3JDahl, that was the one...i'll try it out and let you know03:33
PhuzionHey, how can I be allowed to copy a file to /var/www in KDE if I'm not logged in as root?03:33
holycowSpudDogg, not hate, its just liberating to know your not getting screwed over and over and over and over again03:33
tritiumfreeman08, for cups03:34
JDahlif I want w32codecs on Breezy, do I get it from breezy-extra?03:34
freeman08i enabled it on samba... (indows)03:34
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SpudDoggMadpilot: don't you ever get tired of command line installations?03:34
david3JDahl, i'm trying the floppy version of FreeDOS03:34
holycowSpudDogg, freedom from proprietary garbage is nice, here you are responsible for your self, thats always liberating03:34
freeman08where can i find configuration for cups?03:34
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PhuzionSpudDogg, I don't get tired of it, it's actually a challenge.03:34
holycowSpudDogg, its faster03:34
JDahldavid3, yes, it's actually handy, isn't it?03:34
SpudDoggPhuzion, you got that right03:34
MadpilotSpudDogg: installing Ubuntu itself was no harder than installing Windows, easier, actually. App installs via Synaptic are even easier...03:34
tritiumfreeman08, the part you need to find network printers is the browsing which you already enabled03:35
jeff303forgetting Adobe Reader for a moment, does anyone know of a pdf reader for Ubuntu which allows "smooth scrolling" across pages?03:35
SpudDoggMadpilot, i can't seem to get some things to work...03:35
tritiumjeff303, not that I know of.03:35
SpudDoggeven with that synaptic03:35
PhuzionDoesn't xpdf do that/03:35
Phuzion?03:35
MadpilotSpudDogg: do you have all the repos enabled?03:35
Gh0sTwhere can i get j2sdk1.4  and java2-compiler03:35
Madpilotjeff303: Evince?03:35
vis`linux/ubunto noob = me. I've been doing some searches on how to set up my internet connection. I had a wireless adapter, but that was not supported. So now I've got my ethernet running directly to the router, and would just like to get online. All the searches I've done come up with wireless directions03:35
david3JDahl, yes and thanks for the tip03:35
vis`I just need direct ethernet help03:35
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jeff303Madpilot: tried evince03:36
holycowSpudDogg, most things that newbs cannot get to work is usually a lack of skills on the part of the user03:36
jeff303tritium: if It does, I don't know how03:36
Phuzionvis' reboot with your ethernet plugged in.03:36
sjg!restrictedformats03:36
uboturestrictedformats is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs'03:36
SpudDoggMadpilot, yes, i do...however it seems as though installing things via synaptic doesnt put them in the menus...that would kick ass03:36
SpudDoggthere is still command line to configure03:36
holycowSpudDogg, thats because gnome has a new menu system03:36
holycowSpudDogg, not all apps have migrated03:36
MadpilotSpudDogg: a lot of stuff still lacks the .desktop files that install it into the menus... that'll come eventually03:36
SpudDoggoh ok...03:37
holycowSpudDogg, this isn't windows, if you find things that do not add links in menus, help the projects add that functionality03:37
sproingiei find those menus to get so crowded that they're worthless.  goes for windows and linux bothh03:37
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PhuzionCan someone help me out here, I'm trying to copy some files from my desktop to /var/www for my server, and I was wondering how I would go about doing so, since it says I lack privelages03:37
SpudDoggholycow, what do you mean?03:37
c0rrupt_oh.. how can i use wpa with linux03:37
sproingiewho ever thought that one big cascading menu was a good way to organize software03:37
c0rrupt_and iwconfig03:37
jeff303Phuzion: sudo cp03:37
Gh0sTwhere can i download j2sdk1.4  and java2-compiler03:37
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PhuzionThanks.03:37
holycowSpudDogg, well welcome to open source, here you are responsible for helping out wherever you can03:38
tritiumc0rrupt_, wpasupplicant03:38
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SpudDoggholycow, i am NOT a programmer...is that what you mean?03:38
MadpilotSpudDogg: .desktop fiels aren't hard to write - they're just text files03:38
Madpilot*files, even...03:38
PhuzionDoes anyone here just use root terminal rather than sudo for everything?03:38
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tristanmikeSpudDogg, you can use "smeg" to put things in the menus03:38
holycowSpudDogg, the difference tends to be: on windows if you buy it you can expect things and complain about it, here its free it's borderline offensive to have the same expectations particularly when no research has been done03:38
SpudDoggMadpilot, I dont know what a .desktop file is03:38
tritiumGh0sT, please don't repeat03:38
cevizogluPhuzion, sometimes, yes.  It's called sudo -s03:38
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PhuzionWhat does that do?03:39
holycowSpudDogg, thats exactly what i'm saying, it comes down to not complaining about charitable work of others but pitching in03:39
tritiumPhuzion, try sudo -i03:39
cevizogluPhuzion, it emulates root03:39
david3JDahl, i got FreeDOS up on the machine, but when I started the firmware upgrade exe, it says "This program cannot be run in DOS mode."  Back to square one03:39
PhuzionI have root terminal already though, so I just throw my password in, and boom, root access.03:39
jeff303Phuzion: you can do a man sudo to see all the options and what they do03:39
Gh0sTsorry i figured no one saw it03:39
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vis`i've rebooted..i'm just not sure how to set up the ethernet connection from here. still can't find it in searches. shows device eth0 but says it's not configured. what exactly would I need to run to configure it03:39
JDahldavid3, :/03:40
cevizogluPhuzion, sudo -s is easier when you realize you're going to need to run as root for a while in the middle of working03:40
tristanmikePhuzion, it's not best to run via the "root terminal", bad habits can develop03:40
holycowSpudDogg, if you can't code thats fine, everyone helps out in their own way, some file bug reports, others do graphics, some write help files, etc.03:40
SpudDoggholycow, LOL, i wasnt complaining...i was just asking questions.  it just seems that to use most programs you have to know a lot of commads and tags, etc...i;m new to linux and dont know them yet.  I am sorry if i came accross frustrated or offensive03:40
holycowSpudDogg, welcome to linux :)03:40
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fossahow do i create a link to a folder to appear on the desktop?03:40
Gh0sThrm03:40
holycowSpudDogg, no worries, hard to infer much from textual communication :)03:40
MadpilotSpudDogg: well, welcome to the Light Side, then... ;)03:40
holycowi'm hoping to round out the big picture philosophical differences03:41
jeff303fossa: using Nautilus you can highlight a folder, right click, "Create link", then move that link to Desktop03:41
jeff303fossa: at least that's what I did03:41
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cevizogluSpudDogg, you'll find a lot of those commands help you get work done much more quickly than a GUI03:41
holycowSpudDogg, windows users often come to linux with the wrong expectations because simply they know nothing else, and thats okay03:41
holycowSpudDogg, what cevizoglu is true.  command line a whole hell of a lot of times is just faster.  its weird but true.03:42
vis`that's exactly where I'm at ^03:42
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afaiksome of you may call me insane, while others may call me obtuse, I don't care because it is my laptop anyway. chmod -R 777 /03:42
tristanmikeholycow, and because they've been manipulated03:42
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vis`I opened ubuntu and I'm clicking things going "work. work. work." and nothing. haha. I have a lot of learning to do03:42
sjgAnyone out there use konquerer for a web browser and it seems much slower than mozilla or firefox to you?03:42
SpudDoggholycow, for example, WTF does "sudo" mean in a command line?  also, its hard to memorize all the tags while "unzipping" a .gz, for example -zvf...i have no idea what that means03:42
afaiksome of you may scream "security, security!" While others snicker, "hahahaah... idiot"03:42
tristanmikeafaik, lol03:42
holycowtristanmike, indeed, it's not obvious until you have switched cults. indeed.03:42
SpudDoggif i did, im sure this would be much easier, you know?03:42
fossaok, nautilus03:42
cevizogluafaik, congrats, you just hammered your system beyond recognition03:42
PhuzionAlright, I'm confused, mv and cp both got me on their syntax03:42
holycowSpudDogg, well yeah there is stuff to learn.  but allow me to argue the opposite03:43
afaikit's not like it's an application server, and it's not as if I know chmod -R 777 / is a bad thing03:43
sproingiecevizoglu: i think he just wants to rub everyone's face in it.  whoopee03:43
SpudDoggholycow, sure!03:43
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tristanmikeholycow, even if you know, you're so engossed that, like you said, you don't know of any other solution. Except mac maybe, but let's not go there.03:43
cevizogluafaik, you have varied permissions for a reason03:43
jeff303Phuzion: what about the syntax03:43
Phuziondo I so "sudo cp filename_to_copy.tar.gz /directory/to/copy/to/"?03:43
holycowSpudDogg, the reason most windows machines are infected with spyware is because ms has trained you to believe that it is okay to be an ignorant moron when using a computer03:43
sproingieafaik: good for you.  glad you don't make typos03:43
x[BrB] xdjw62 in using back office can i assign a folder where all the files will be save on a folder i assigned?03:43
afaikcevizoglu, I know, and I don't care. My laptop is for horseplay anyhow03:43
jeff303Phuzion: you need to specify a filename on the destination end too03:43
PhuzionOh, thanks.03:43
holycowSpudDogg, the truth of the matter is some training is required, some understanding of concepts and problem solving is MANDATORY when using computers03:43
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sproingieholycow: a lot of spyware is drive-by downloads exploiting holes in IE, and some of it gets bundled with other apps.  insulting everyone who uses the machine doesn't really make you any smarter03:44
holycowSpudDogg, consider linux your skills upgrade that you and everyone should of recieved before being given access to a computer03:44
arkanesis there a simple way to convince X.org that I'm capable of better than 1024x768 resolution, or do I need to hack on the config file by hand?03:44
SpudDoggholycow, is there a well thought out, n00b level tutorial or linux basics i can read somewhere?  i do beleive that would help me a lot03:44
holycowsproingie, true but if the user has some basic skills, they would be able to surmise that using firefox or something else, or turning off activex would resolve the issue. we both know users of windows machiens that have very clean installs for yearas03:44
Madpilot!tell SpudDogg about docs03:45
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acktifujitso who ownes one of those dyson vaccumms?03:45
PhuzionThere is a roadmap from Windows to Linux somewhere, but I've never checked it out.03:45
tristanmikeSpudDogg, I like this one http://www.linuxcommand.org/03:45
Madpilot!tell SpudDogg about cli03:45
PhuzionI ought to though.03:45
jeff303SpudDogg: you can find hundreds, just google linux tutorial, and read articles on Wikipedia for general information about the community of Linux, etc03:45
holycowSpudDogg, well, you are looking for linux 101 i guess? i konw of no such thing.  you will need to acquire it through osmosis for the time being.03:45
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dooglusso...  Cossins was unable to start X because he was missing /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc/fonts.alias03:45
tritiumyeah, you mentioned that03:45
holycowSpudDogg, its a very good idea infact, i've thought about that for a while03:45
dooglusI think in turn that was because he was also missing /etc/X11/fonts/misc/xfonts-base.alias03:45
dooglus/etc/X11/fonts/misc/xfonts-base.alias is part of package xfonts-base, which I had him reinstall, but he was still missing the file afterwards.03:46
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dooglushow can installing a package omit installing one of the files in the package?03:46
SpudDoggholycow, thats what i've been trying lately...im getting around that way for now, and am very happy with ubuntu, but more knowledge quickly would come in handy03:46
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sproingieholycow: it goes a bit deeper than just techie paranoia.  people actually trust a lot of the companies that make the software they install, like screensavers and games and so forth03:47
jeff303SpudDogg: if you don't already use google heavily, or some other search engine, it's a must to learn something like Linux03:47
!lilo:*! Hi all. There's a new hurricane in the Gulf of Mexico.... it's being tracked in ##rita .... it's coming through Florida and seems aimed at Texas. Discussion and tracking in ##rita .03:47
holycowSpudDogg, its a hard question.  we have a hard time working on this stuff (I am sponsoring development on an opne source web framework for example), that writing linux 101 tuts is hard done03:47
!lilo:*! Whoops, I think I must be tired. Bit redundant there.03:47
jeff303SpudDogg: if you get an error message, try putting it verbatim into Google, chances are someone else had the exact same problem and posted about it03:47
sproingieholycow: human nature to be more trusting of the party on the other end of a voluntary transaction, and not think they'll shove spyware onto your machine in the process03:48
holycowsproingie, indeed!03:48
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SpudDoggoh, thats another think...it seems that there arent a lot of games available for linux, for example HL and HL203:48
holycowsproingie, lol, the funny thing is they are more trusting of spyware than say something like open office03:48
holycow>_<03:48
cevizogluSpudDogg, they're available through cedega03:48
arkaishi03:48
jeff303SpudDogg: if you're feeling amibition, some people have got those games to run on Linux03:48
JDahldoes anyone know where to get w32codecs for Breezy?03:48
jeff303SpudDogg: using Cedega03:48
dooglusif linux ever gets a reasonable desktop marketshare you can be sure that spyware will start to turn up in downloads.03:48
tristanmikesproingie, exactly, even video game manufactures include it, people think, why would they give me spyware?03:49
holycowSpudDogg, yeah what cevizoglu said.  the problem is that games cost a lot of money to dev, and publishers need a paying audience now.03:49
c0rrupt_!chipset03:49
ubotuNo idea, c0rrupt_03:49
SpudDoggLOL, you should see me here...im taking notes lol03:49
holycowa few games are natively published on win, osx and lin03:49
brownie17is there a copy or clone of flash for linux?03:49
Gobbla!root03:49
ubotuit has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:49
holycowdoom3 for example03:49
c0rrupt_does anyone know the page with all wireless cards and their chipsets??03:49
tritiumbrownie17, yes03:49
c0rrupt_!wireless03:49
ubotuit has been said that wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards03:49
sproingiebrownie17: flash runs fine on linux03:49
dooglusbrownie17: flash, yes; shockwave, no03:49
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tristanmikeSpudDogg, most "ID" games run for all OS's if I'm not mistaken03:50
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cafuego_sproingie/dooglius: only on i386.03:50
arkaisi want install SDL but when i do the ./autogen.sh, says one error, line 11 aclocal, command not found, what can i do?03:50
sproingie32 bit linux anyway.  still no flash for my konq.  not that this disturbs me03:50
tritiumarkais, you don't want to install the .deb package?03:50
sproingiearkais: apt-get install autoconf automake03:50
SpudDoggis there a good web site around for periphial drivers, such as ATI video cards?03:50
cafuego_Such a bourgeois arch. Yuck.03:50
vis`can anybody walk me through an ethernet connection setup? I'm brand new to ubuntu/linux. in networking it says eht0 is not configured. I did gnome-nettool in terminal and the only device listed is loopback interface (lo) with no add button. - . - *CONFUSED NOOB ALERT!!*03:50
vis`and I've already rebooted03:51
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tristanmikeSpudDogg, if you're going to get video, then nVidia is the choice for Linux03:51
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cafuego_!tell SpudDogg -about ati03:51
sproingievis`: sounds like it doesn't detect your card.  what kind of ethernet is it?03:51
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vis`cable directly to linksys router03:51
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vis`oh..one sec03:51
brownie17tritium, i don't mean a player, i mean like the flash suite, to create flash animations03:51
sproingievis`: so it's the one on your motherboard?  what brand of computer is it?03:51
cevizogluvis`, there's no configuration required normally for ethernet unless your nic isn't supported03:52
fadumpt!tell fadumpt about ssh03:52
SpudDoggok...thanks so much everyone for your time.  are you fellas #ubuntu regulars? will you be around often for help and advice?03:52
vis`i have an msi motherboard with onboard ether03:52
bagawkI added the restricted repost ass described in RestrictedFormats in the wiki, but I see no gstreamer-mad for mp3 support. What is wrong?03:52
bagawks/ass/as03:52
arkanesbrownie17: there is an OSS flash compiler, but as far as I know nothing like the whole studio/IDE package03:52
sproingievis`: what model of msi?   they should all be supported tho03:52
cafuego_SpudDogg: if not, someone else will be here.03:52
Gobbla!dc++03:52
sproingiein fact ubuntu's better support for forcedeth is one reason i ended up installing ubuntu03:52
SpudDoggcafeugo_: ok, cool03:52
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vis`sproingie , 865pe neo-2 series03:53
brownie17arkanes, umm... when you say compiler, do you mean it just converts the FLA files to a SWF file? or do you mean the full program?03:53
vis`only a year old03:53
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arkanesbrownie17: I'm not really sure, I'm not a flash guy, but my understanding is that it converts ActionScript/FLA files into a SWF movie, yes03:54
holycowarkais, there is flash4lin but its actually not even alpha03:54
DeekinEvening all03:54
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holycowthe programmer just doesn't have enough support for it03:54
holycowthere was another flash ide project i ran into on sourceforge, you may want to search there03:54
PhuzionDoes anyone here know about MySQL, and phpMyAdmin?03:54
brownie17arkanes, ok, what is it called?03:55
holycowbut basically your only choice is macromedia for now03:55
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brownie17holycow, search fourceforge for flash you say? thanks03:55
sproingievis`: should be an intel pro ethernet.  not sure why it's not being recognized.  does it show up if you type 'ifconfig -a' ?03:55
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naliothWASSSSSSSSSSSSSU: please, dude03:55
vis`sproingie: let me check. one sec03:55
naliothWASSSSSSSSSSSSSU: cut us some slack03:55
holycowoh that was meant for brownie, haha ! sorry arkais03:56
holycow:)03:56
holycowbrownie17, yes :)03:56
benplauti have a feeling WASSSSSSSSSSSSSU is doing it to annoy us03:56
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vis`sproingie: what exactly am I looking for03:56
qt2time to clean my keyboard. <.< >.>03:56
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sproingievis`: you're looking for eth003:57
holycowbrownie17, http://f4l.sourceforge.net/03:57
holycowthats one03:57
jeff303Phuzion: what about it, exactly?03:57
brownie17thanx holycow03:57
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holycowde nada03:57
vis`sproingie: it shows eth0, "link encap: ethernet hardware:" yada yada03:57
arkaisnp holycow03:57
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sproingievis`: so it's being detected, good03:57
fadumpt!tell fadumpt about x forwarding03:57
lakcaj!tell fadumpt about sshx03:58
sproingievis`: cat /etc/network/interfaces and look for a line that starts with 'iface eth0' ... does it show anything?03:58
lakcajnm, thought I was still in #debian :)03:58
fadumpt!tell fadumpt about sshx03:58
lakcajfadumpt, give me a sec03:58
fadumpt:(03:58
fadumptwon't give me a link03:58
fadumptokay03:58
brownie17holycow, so i download the debian package? then how do i install it?03:59
fadumptsorry03:59
lakcajfadumpt, Enable X11Forwarding **on the server** (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (in xbase-clients) on both the client and the server. Then you can use ssh -X on the client side. Ssh will run xauth and set the DISPLAY variable automatically. Neither xhost, nor X tcp support are necessary. Hint: ssh -X root@localhost, or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/windows/sshx.html03:59
arkanesvis`: does it show up in the gnome networking control panel?03:59
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holycowbrownie17, you probably haveto compile f4l, i don't think it has a debian package03:59
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holycowif it does dl it and do dpkg -i package.deb03:59
lakcajfadumpt, that is for debian, but it should work the same for you.03:59
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fadumptthanks lakcaj03:59
fadumpt:)03:59
lakcajnp, hope it works ok for you.03:59
brownie17holycow,  there is a file with a .deb extension for download03:59
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holycowbrownie17, thats it *nod*03:59
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vis`sproingie: can't get to that dir for some reason. In the network settings it shows modem connection and ethernet connection..but says "ethernet interface eth0 is not configured"04:00
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brownie17holycow, i don't know how to install the package04:00
sproingievis`: i'd guess it's dhcp ... is your router set up with dhcp?04:01
arkanesvis`: if you select it and hit the properties button, you should be able to activate it04:01
holycowdownload it to your desktop, we will run you through it04:01
vis`sproingie: sorry..had cat as part of the dir...yes it shows map eth004:01
holycowet us know when you got it04:01
arkanesvis`: I had to do that when I installed mine because the installer won't set the interface up if your network is down when you install04:01
brownie17holycow, i got it on my desktop04:01
sproingievis`: not looking for map eth0, looking for iface eth0 ... anything there?04:01
Sonny_WertzikDoes anybody know of an app that lets you change the color,font and transparency of dropdown menus in gnome?04:01
vis`sproingie in properties all I can click is "this device is configured"..but I'm not sure how to get all that info manually04:01
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holycowopen up your cli from apps/system/terminal04:01
holycowthen cd ~/Desktop04:02
brownie17Sonny_Wertzik, i don't think it is that customisable04:02
holycoware you there?04:02
naliothMaynoth: welcome04:02
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sproingievis`: i'm a kde user, i have no idea about the GUI apps you're using to check this stuff04:02
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brownie17holycow, cli? you mena a terminal window?04:02
holycowyep04:02
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Sonny_Wertzikbrownie17, are youi sure?04:02
vis`sproingie all i've got in cat is iface lo inet loopback and auto lo04:02
brownie17Sonny_Wertzik, nope :)04:02
sproingievis`: we're looking to see if there's a config04:02
Sonny_Wertzikbrownie17, hehehehe04:02
sproingievis`: aha.  sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces04:02
sproingievis`: then add this to the end:  iface eth0 inet dhcp04:03
brownie17holycow, i am on desktop04:03
holycowdo ls, you will get a list of files04:03
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holycowthen do dpkg -i packagename.deb04:03
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holycowthat should hopefully install it04:03
sproingievis`: there's almost certainly a pointy clicky way to do this, i just have no idea what it is :)04:03
vis`sproingie: k buddy..now I'm in to edit that file. haha point and click is sooooooooooooo windows ;) ;) I'm here to learn04:04
holycowbrownie17, oops, i mean sudo dpkg -i package.deb04:04
holycowheh04:04
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sproingievis`: ok, add that line to the end: iface eth0 inet dhcp04:04
brownie17holycow,  http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/1640/04:04
brownie17holycow,  oops04:04
Sonny_WertzikDoes anybody know of an app that lets you change the color,font and transparency of dropdown menus in gnome? Grey menus and pastels are killing me.04:04
brownie17holycow, dpkg: status database area is locked by another process04:04
sproingievis`: save, then sudo ifup eth004:04
holycowbrownie17, it means you have something else installing04:05
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holycowor your synaptic installer is open04:05
holycowclose it04:05
brownie17holycow, i have synaotic open04:05
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brownie17holycow,  it's doing something now04:05
holycowclose it, try dpkg again04:05
brownie17holycow, i got some errors, i am going to paste bin it to you04:06
holycowk04:06
Sonny_WertzikOK then.....hows that new KDE?.....hehehehehe04:06
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fr500hello04:06
vis`sproingie...you...rock04:07
brownie17holycow, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/239004:07
sproingievis`: that work?04:07
vis`so will this auto config everytime I boot now? Or will I have to hunt you down :p04:07
holycowbrownie17, that deb package was compiled for debian unstable04:07
sproingievis`: it should ... i think.  i'm not clear on how it knows which interfaces to auto-up on boot04:07
holycowcurrent ubuntu does not have those libraries04:07
brownie17holycow, unstable? eh? what that mean?04:07
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holycowbut breezy should04:07
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sproingievis`: otherwise, if you need to start it manually, just type 'ifup eth0'04:08
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holycowwait until oct 5 for breezy to release, then try to install this04:08
fossain xfce, i don't have a menu for all my appsand stuff. how do i make it show?04:08
fr500do you have idea weredo u have idea were are the sticky notes data stored? my computer broke, and i need some info i have there, i have my disk hookep up but i don't know were to look for that04:08
brownie17holycow, argh, everytime i want to do something everyone tells me i need breezy04:08
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tritiumMaynoth2, vulgar language in a query is not any nicer04:08
vis`sproingie will do. thanks a lot for the help and the time. :) take care04:08
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holycowbrownie17, your getting too far ahead of the development curve04:08
Milk_can anyone help me with an nvidia driver install error?04:08
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sproingievis`: np.  glad to help :)04:08
brownie17holycow, what does that mean?04:08
holycowbrownie17, relax a bit, these people do these projects for fun, sometimes thats how it works04:08
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shadeofgreyhi guys04:09
brownie17holycow, yeah i guess you're right04:09
shadeofgreyi just finished updating to the newest breezy stuff...04:09
fr500brownie17, what are you trying to install?04:09
brownie17flash4linux04:09
holycowis there a factoid on ubotu about debian versions and ubuntu dev cycle?04:09
fr500oh04:09
holycowi think we need a diagram to explain this04:09
arkanesbreezy is elegent and serene, like a zen monk dancing Swan Lake04:09
holycowbrownie17, its too much typing to explain right now, i'm tired :)04:09
holycowehe04:09
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shadeofgreyi was just wondering -- how is it that i launch a full disk check -- is there a graphical utility for that?  if not whats the commandline for it?04:10
sproingiei think a zen monk dancing swan lake would be awful clunky04:10
brownie17holycow, :) ok04:10
holycowbrownie17, the short answer is, don't install breezy now, wait for it to release in october.04:10
sproingieactually i guess he'd just sit there and tell you that he's dancing04:10
shadeofgreyi want to verify all my file indexes and just set ubuntu to check out both my Hdd's -- sectors and all to make sure everything is cool04:10
brownie17holycow, yeah theres not way im installing a beta04:10
inan_how to enable 3D nvidia video cards?04:10
arkanessproingie: exactly, but in a spiritual and philosphical way :P04:10
naliothbrownie17: i would stop where you are. f4l is very alpha software04:10
shadeofgreyinan_ : apt-get install nvidia-glx04:10
arkanesinan_: install the nvidia packages via synaptic04:10
Madpilot!tell inan_ about nvidia04:10
brownie17holycow, i am allready getting enugh inexplicable errors with an alpha04:11
inan_ok thnx04:11
holycowbrownie17, update frequently :)04:11
fr500brownie17, is it for kde?04:11
!lilo:*! Hi all. For discussion of Rita, probably should switch over to ##hurricane , since there are already people there....04:12
brownie17nalioth: i don't know if you will be able to answer this at all, but when i ordered my cd's about 1 month ago, they said 4-6 weeks. wil they just wait and give me breezy? or will i have to wait for that aswell?04:12
brownie17fr500, no, gnome04:12
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naliothbrownie17: you'll probably get hoary04:12
brownie17nalioth,  darn04:12
naliothbrownie17: i dont think you're gonna get f4l running at this stage of it's developement04:13
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holycowbrownie17, it actually doesn't matter04:14
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untwaahalooo04:14
holycowjust apt-get dist-upgrade when breezy releases04:14
daloydoygood day everyone04:14
untwaaano po mayron dto?04:14
daloydoyhow can i create an alias for my eth0 device?04:14
PhuzionHey, I'm setting up the config file for phpMyAdmin, and I think I need root access to get the server to work properly, so how do I go about giving it root?04:14
daloydoyuntwaa??? taga saan ka?04:14
untwaado this ubunto can support webcam?04:14
fr500untwaa, depends on the cam04:15
shadeofgreyhey guys04:15
untwaadaloydoy: frm cagayan de oro po kaw po?04:15
fr500untwaa, it's ubuntu by the way04:15
shadeofgreywhats the command in ubuntu thats the equivelant to chkdssk?04:15
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sproingie!tell Phuzion about root04:15
jeff303shadeofgrey: I think e2fsck04:15
inan_how to configure nvidia video card?04:15
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fr500shadeofgrey, efsck i think but it wont work on mounted units04:15
inan_it is installed now04:15
jeff303shareofgrey: or just fsck04:15
inan_like running direct3d04:16
inan_or somethin04:16
jeff303shadeofgrey: the only way I could do it was by using a bootable CD to run since you can't do it on mounted drives04:16
fr500inan, you can try glxgears04:16
untwaafr500: our webcam is sa genius cam. do it that brand can support?04:16
inan_how fr50004:16
fr500inan, maybe tuxracer04:16
sproingieopengl screensaver is a good test04:16
arkanesinan_: when you start into X, you'll see the nvidia logo if you're using the glx drivers04:16
fr500inan, open a terminal and type glxgears04:16
inan_ok thanx04:16
inan_i do it now04:17
fr500untwaa, what is your normal language?04:17
inan_bahhh04:17
inan_pinoy?04:17
untwaaawssssssss04:17
arkanesinan_: when you installed the package, it should have popped up a window with instructions on how to turn the glx drivers off and on04:17
afaikWe find error04:17
sproingieglxinfo | grep direct04:17
afaikin Ubuntu04:17
bob2come on people04:17
fr500untwaa, it's not just brand dependant, model dependant too04:17
daloydoyanyone help ubuntu network config... alias eth port04:17
afaikterminal won't start in KDE04:17
afaikwe want to know why04:17
fr500daloydoy, just ask and wait04:17
durtits time to learn english folks04:17
daloydoyfr500: sorry.. im very eager04:18
Deekin*chuckle*04:18
afaikdurt, but we find bug!04:18
untwaafr500: sori im nt really familiar on it....04:18
afaikin the Ubuntu!04:18
fr500durt, did you get to make GTK1 apps look better?04:18
sproingiedurt: there's a billion chinese that say it's time to learn their language04:18
bob2afaik: then report it on launchpad.net04:18
durtscrew those chinamen04:18
daloydoyuntwaa: pls check pm04:18
inan_command not found in terminal :glxgrea04:18
bob2durt: er, code of conduct, thanks04:18
Deekineveryone should speak in binary04:18
inan_glxgear04:18
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brownie17i just crank a whole tin of condesced milk04:18
sproingiedurt: i prefer the women.  either way it could take a long time04:18
bob2inan_: yes, it's glxgears, and not actully useful04:18
brownie17drank*04:18
fr500inan, glxgears04:19
inan_ow its running now04:19
inan_but my starcraft still slow04:19
inan_=(04:19
sproingielike i've been saying: glxgears just proves mesa works.  if you want  to know if your 3d card is being used, type glxinfo | grep direct04:19
brownie17inan, can you get starcaft for linux/04:19
durtthe chinese dont have women04:19
afaikbob2, but we find bug!04:19
inan_its starcraft for windows04:19
afaikIN THE UBUNTU04:19
fr500or you can test with a 3d game, if tuxracer runs smooth it'll do04:19
arkanesyou can usually tell from the performance if you're using nvidia or software, though04:19
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inan_ok04:20
bob2afaik: please stop it, or you'll have to leave04:20
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brownie17inan_, wiht wine?04:20
sproingiearkanes: and you can tell for sure with glxinfo04:20
arkanesinan_: glxinfo, and look at the first few lines04:20
inan_yes brownie04:20
bob2inan_: glxgears is not a benchmarking tool, and I'm pretty sure starcraft does not use GL, anyway04:20
inan_ok04:20
jeff303inan_: starcraft doesn't use OpenGL04:20
inan_jeff303, and why it is slow?04:20
afaikhow can I get Halo2 running on ubuntu04:20
arkaneswines direct3D implementation does, though04:20
jeff303inan_: I'm not sure exactly what nVidia gives you in the way of drivers04:20
brownie17afaik, you can't unless there is a linux version04:21
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sproingiestarcraft doesn't use direct3d either04:21
jeff303inan_: but the main reason it's slow is probably just because it's being emulated04:21
inan_ahhh...04:21
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sproingiestarcraft is perfectly zippy in linux.  wine is simply a very cantankerous thing04:21
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jeff303sproingie: how can that be...?04:21
arkanessproingie: it wouldn't be using direct3d, but I'm almost certain it uses directshow04:21
jeff303sproingie how else can you play it04:21
inan_wines direct3D implementation does, though <-- how?04:21
sproingiejeff303: under an obscure OS called windows04:22
jeff303sproingie: oh yeah I heard of that once  ;)04:22
inan_arkanes wines direct3D implementation does, though <-- how04:22
arkanesinan_: wine implements much of direct3D via openGL04:22
brownie17hey everyone!, i just drank a full can of condensced milk!!!!! how good am i?04:22
sproingiebrownie17: good for you04:23
Deekinshhhh04:23
jeff303inan_: wine's implementation of Directshow is probably not as good as Cedega's04:23
naliothbrownie17: you'll soon be plump for the oven if you keep that up04:23
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sproingiesomeone's gonna get lactose poisoning in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... now04:23
inan_haha04:23
inan_=)04:23
brownie17nalioth, hahahah. i've always wanted to do that, ever since i was a kid. i have the metabolism of an echidna though, so i won't get fat04:23
brownie17sproingie, argh my gut!!104:23
inan_jeff303 inan_: wine's implementation of Directshow is probably not as good as Cedega's04:23
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inan_hmm04:24
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inan_i think this is about configuration..04:24
Qalimashello all04:24
brownie17Qalimas, greetings04:24
inan_but the problem is, i dont know which to configure04:24
inan_=(04:24
inan_wine is install, my video card is install, and starcraft still running slow (grafix)04:24
inan_=(04:25
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arkanesinan_: if you didn't restart X after installing the nvidia-glx packages, you aren't using acceleration yet04:25
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inan_i alreadt did restart04:25
holycowTRY THAT!04:25
brownie17inan_, was your version of starcraft legal? did it work well? is there any specific instructions? or just hit go? what about the regestration entries?04:25
holycow:)04:25
arkanesinan_: if you did restart X, and you didn't see the nvidia logo, then you aren't using them04:25
inan_its ok..04:25
pumpey_youhi04:25
brownie17holycow, dont temp me, i feel sick allready!04:25
inan_nothings wron with the game04:25
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inan_i saw the LOGO...04:25
jeff303has anyone tried running games under Windows under VMWare?04:25
pumpey_youcagayan de oro04:26
arkanesjeff303: doesn't work worth a darn04:26
inan_oi pinoy04:26
inan_haha04:26
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chavojeff303, yes, windows solitare rocks!04:26
jeff303arkanes: ok good to know, I missed out on a free VMWare workstation and almost kicked myself04:26
arkanesjeff303: well, nothing 3d anyway, the vmware emulated video card is some lousy 10 year old 2d thing04:26
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inan_wa04:26
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brownie17everyone go buy a new motherboard and a set of SLI cards now04:26
inan_has anybody manage to run MU online on linux?04:27
jakson1ai tem alguem ai que possa me ajudar aqui04:27
brownie17btw, does sli work with linux?04:27
nalioth!es04:27
pumpey_youkjkk04:27
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:27
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inan_i have but still the grafix is slow...04:27
pumpey_youhi hilo04:27
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bob2nalioth: portueguese (.br ;)04:27
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naliothbob2: i'm not too good at deciphering .br from .es04:28
sproingiewouldn't that be pt?04:28
g0rd0nhello! i have a problem with breezy04:28
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QalimasHas anyone successfully setup LTSP on Breezy?04:28
sproingiebr is the country, pt is still the language04:28
jerryhello, could someone tell me how to install nvidia driver04:28
bob2nalioth: I mean the hostname :)04:28
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bob2jerry: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:28
g0rd0ni installed the breezy preview for amd64, everything worked fine, it then upgraded about 300 packages via internet... and upon reboot the network doesnt work anymore:(04:28
naliothbob2: i did miss that bit of info04:28
jerrythanks bob04:29
g0rd0nthe network cards are being detected, but i have no network and no clue how to get it back04:29
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g0rd0ni reinstalled breezy but still got the same problem after upgrading the packages04:29
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alec_Does anybody know why my wine isn't working, I have the newest one?04:29
theblueHow do I add more resolutions to the properties menu?04:30
arkanesg0rd0n: did you try enabling them in using the control panel applet?04:30
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brownie17does anybody know why no-one is replying to me in the german room?04:30
bob2dude04:30
g0rd0narkais: yes, nothing happens04:30
g0rd0nit hangs04:30
bob2volunteers04:30
alec_maybe they dont speak german04:30
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g0rd0ni also tried ifdown / ifup, but nothing happens there too...04:31
brownie17alec_, good thinking! i'll try french04:31
alec_brownie17: you know french?!?!04:31
brownie17i do speak a bit of german though, seriously. and i spoke it and they didn't reply04:31
alec_brownie17: and german?!?!04:31
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brownie17alec_, german yes, french no04:31
alec_brownie17: and english?!?!04:31
alec_lol04:31
naliothbrownie17: what is the matter with where you are now?04:31
cristobalhello04:31
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brownie17nalioth, the people here have too much nose hair :)04:31
sproingiealec_: he's gone into the channel spouting "ich spreche keine deutsch" and whatnot04:31
brownie17hahaha04:32
alec_lol04:32
arkanesg0rd0n: out of my expertise, I'm afraid, but it sounds like a driver or perhaps hardware problem04:32
acktifujitbrownie17, how did you know04:32
brownie17god im funny. that means i do not pseak german04:32
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alec_Can anybody help me with wine04:32
brownie17acktifujit, i am watching you with my little spy cams and shit :)04:32
alec_it doesnt work04:32
acktifujitpop the cork04:32
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kataklysmwell i'm getting ubuntu installed on my other box, i dont know if it will work right though.. if i change the way my IDE drives are oriented to the motherboard, will it mess up how my linux install runs?04:32
bob2kataklysm: ...yes04:33
bob2it will make it unbootable04:33
g0rd0narkanes: not hardware, i'm running windows and everything works fine :) the problem arises after i upgrade breezy's packages, on a fresh install however it works04:33
chat1410this may be a really really stupid question (if it is, after you gimme a link, you can flame me)04:33
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chat1410how can i mount other drives in ubuntu?04:33
g0rd0nperhaps some fuckup in the kernel package?04:33
brownie17alec_, what program are you trying to run through it?04:33
bob2alec_: you need to be a lot more specific, no one can possibly anser your question04:33
AngryParsleyhmm... I'm having some trouble installing mplayer on breezy04:33
nalioth!tell chat1410 about ntfs04:33
arkanesg0rd0n: thats what it sounds like to me04:33
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alec_brownie17: any program doesnt work04:33
naliothchat1410: check msgs, please04:33
g0rd0ni noticed the kernel got upgraded04:33
AngryParsleyI can select it to be installed in the package manager, but it has some dependencies that can't be fulfilled04:33
brownie17alec_ does it give an error?04:33
chat1410kk, thanks04:33
bob2alec_: tell us what version, what you're trying to run, and whether appdb.codeweavers.com says it should work or not04:33
alec_brownie17: yes04:33
AngryParsleysuch as "Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-22  but it is not installable"04:34
Phuzion!wiki mysql04:34
bob2AngryParsley: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood04:34
alec_it says on the website that it might not work04:34
AngryParsleybob2: ok, hold on04:34
brownie17alec_,  what error?04:34
alec_should i get older version04:34
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kataklysmbob2: so if i change it from slave to master, it wont boot? even if i dont have another drive?  see ubuntu installer wouldnt detect my hd with the jp on cableselect, so i changed the pin, it detected it, but as slave, so if i change that pin back over to cs after install or to pri, it wont work?04:34
kataklysmbob2: its dev hdb04:34
PhuzionHey, does someone know what the package is called that has apache, PHP, and MySQL bundled together?04:34
bob2kataklysm: get a boot cd04:34
PhuzionNot LAMP04:34
fr500inan, didi you get it to work?04:34
cristobalhi kataklysm04:34
alec_brownie17: ummm04:34
bob2Phuzion: there isn't one04:34
alec_brownie17: lemme try something04:35
kataklysmcristobal: hi04:35
bob2Phuzion: sudo aptitude install libapache2-mod-php4 apahce2 php4-mysql mysql-server04:35
userverHello to all04:35
fr500inan, i'm pretty sure you can get cedega from the cvs (i did it once)04:35
userversomebody  can help me about the sscanner?04:35
cristobali from chile04:35
cristobaland you04:35
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fr500crimsun, Ecuaodr04:35
fr500Ecuador04:35
kataklysmumm im from US04:35
userverCristobal.. are you from Chile southamerica?04:35
kataklysmbob2: why did u say get a boot cd?04:35
cristobalyes04:36
bob2kataklysm: so you can fix it when it fails to boot04:36
fr500cristobal, Ecuador04:36
bob2cristobal: userver try #ubuntu-es04:36
AngryParsleybob2: pasted04:36
alec_brownie17: it says04:36
kataklysmbob2: if i just change it from hdb to hda it should boot though right?, but will the OS see things different when it changes?04:36
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steven_hey gusy i have a question i just installed ubuntu, and hotplug gave me two errors with pciehp and shpchp04:36
fr500bob2, this place is better :p04:36
userverCristobal and  what city?04:36
alec_brownie17: wine has exited with a faliure status of 1.04:36
cristobalvaldivia why?04:36
brownie17alec_, why do you need it?04:36
bob2steven_: ignore it04:36
bob2fr500: this place is for ubuntu support, not random discussion04:36
alec_brownie17: wine is still devlopement software, so there can be many explanations for this problem04:36
bob2kataklysm: if you say so04:36
userverbob2 and how can i use that #ubuntu-es04:37
alec_brownie17: because i need to open this modeling program04:37
steven_modprobe:Fatal:error inserting pciehp shpchp04:37
fr500bob2, it's still better for that, if you can speak english works just as good or better04:37
bob2steven_: ignore it04:37
alec_brownie17: i cant do it in linux04:37
userverCristobal.. Just i ask.. I am from Linares je je je04:37
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AngryParsleybob2: so did I forget to add a source?04:37
alec_brownie17: i had it in windows04:37
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bob2fr500: so, stay on-topic if you're going to talk in here04:37
kataklysmbob2: i will just see what happens when install gets done.. i dont know why it didnt detect my hd with CS, the bios did, and rhel always did.. didnt make much sense04:37
cristobalok04:37
fr500ok04:37
cristobaluserver se me hace dficil escribir en ingls04:37
steven_i am from Ecuador04:37
brownie17alec_, sorry, but i don't think linux is for you then. i can't help you, i and short of the wine support team, i don't think anyone can.04:37
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fr500steven_, me too04:37
bob2come on folks04:38
cristobalpero algo intentaremos04:38
i0h-Hi, i just installed ubuntu.. but i never had to type in the root pass in the installation :/04:38
bob2seriously04:38
userverCristobal.. alguien me dijo que pobara en #ubuntu-es.. como hago eso?04:38
bob2!+es04:38
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:38
userverCristobal.. a mi tambien ..04:38
alec_brownie17: what04:38
cristobalno s04:38
bob2AngryParsley: looks ok04:38
cristobalque edad tienes04:38
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alec_brownie17: i meant if my version is corrupt since its not complete04:38
transgresshey i just ran dist-upgrade and it's trying to remove OOo2... wtf?04:38
transgressand ubuntu-desktop04:38
bob2transgress: don't use dist-upgrade04:38
arkanesi0h-: ubuntu installs root with a random/unused password, it's intended that you use sudo for anything04:39
brownie17maybe, did you get it from the ubuntu repos?04:39
transgressbob2: oh okay.  use upgrade?04:39
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i0h-arkanes,  ?04:39
kataklysmwhen you want to upgrade the dist, use the cd or other media, dont do it through a packaging system, its been known to break several several systems!04:39
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bob2transgress: or aptitude; dist-upgrade and upgrade do different things04:39
untwaado this linux (ubunto) can run games?04:39
bob2kataklysm: please don't spread lies04:39
fr500untwaa, yes04:39
Madpilot!tell i0h- about root04:39
ssdd65help! i just installed a new kernel but while loading it says that module <mychipset> is in use...04:39
ssdd65how can i fix this?04:39
kataklysmwhat?04:39
kataklysmthats not a lie04:40
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bob2kataklysm: if it doesn't work, file a serious bug immediately04:40
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userverbob2.. I don't know about the irc.. How can i  join in #ubuntu-es.. I don't have that in the servers list04:40
bob2kataklysm: it has worked for thousands of other people04:40
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bob2userver: /j #ubuntu-es04:40
AngryParsleybob2: so, how can I fulfill those dependencies? find some debs and use dpkg to install them manually?04:40
cristobaluserver ests ah?04:40
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userverCristobal aqui estoy04:40
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untwaafr500: online games or local games???04:40
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ironucklesHello, all.04:41
alec_can anybody show me the second to newest wine version(not the alpha)04:41
kataklysmbob2: it probably has worked for a lot of people, it also has messed a lot of people up, why not just install from boot instead of while your in the OS?04:41
fr500untwaa, all kinds of games, just like windows, but running windows games is something dirrerent04:41
Chipzzanyone can tell me which app this is: http://madpenguin.org/images/reviews/ubuntu510/hwsnd.jpg ?04:41
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brownie17alec_, why do you not want to use the alpha?04:41
bob2kataklysm: wtf04:41
arkanesbreezy seems to be in rather a state of flux, I've been told to upgrade dbus 4 times in 2 days :P04:41
ssdd65help! i just installed a new kernel but while loading it says that module <mychipset> is in use... howw can i fix this?04:41
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alec_brownie17: it deosn't work!!04:41
bob2kataklysm: if people have issues THEY NEED TO FILE BUGS04:41
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bob2not whinge on the forums or IRC04:41
steven_how can i configure eth104:41
ironucklesI'm trying to get my external video to work with my laptop so I can show a presentation on a projector... Can someone point me in the right direction?04:41
Madpilotuntwaa: both America's Army & Enemy Territory have linux-native free versions04:41
fr500Chipzz, it's in apps, Ubuntu device database04:41
bob2ssdd65: and what kernel is that?04:42
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admin4hi04:42
bob2kataklysm: upgrading with aptitude while the system is running is completely supported, and the only sane way to upgrade a system04:42
bob2this is not redhat04:42
kataklysmbob2: well from just about any debian / gentoo forum or room i have ever been on, they do not recommend doing a dist-upgrade from within x04:42
Chipzzfr500: I don't have a clean install, I upgraded from hoary04:42
alec_brownie17: i use           sudo apt-get install wine04:42
alec_brownie17: that doesnt work04:42
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bob2kataklysm: forums and rooms, indeed. those peopel are clueless.04:42
fr500Chipzz, so?04:42
brownie17alec_, what does it say?04:42
kataklysmok everyone do a dist-upgrade then04:43
kataklysmsee how many systems get broken04:43
bob2kataklysm: no04:43
kataklysmlol04:43
ironucklesDo I need xinerama to display onto an external monitor from my laptop?04:43
bob2kataklysm: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes04:43
Madpilotalec_: do you have the Universe/Multiverse repos enabled?04:43
alec_brownie17: it installs but then when i try to use it04:43
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alec_yes04:43
bob2kataklysm: if it actually breaks for people, they need to file bugs instead of whinging on forus04:43
Chipzzfr500: so, after installing hoary, I nuked some packages, which in turn nuked some meta packages04:43
ssdd65it is the 2.6.11-k7-smp kernel....04:43
brownie17bob2,  what is dist-upgrade04:43
bob2whinging on forums is utterly useless04:43
alec_brownie17: it says error code 104:43
fr500Chipzz, hmmm04:43
alec_brownie17: on every program04:43
bob2ssdd65: so, uninstall it, it's useless and broken04:43
Chipzzie I don't get all the packages a fresh install would give you04:43
kataklysmok if you say so04:43
brownie17alec_,  how many have you tried?04:43
bob2brownie17: it's an apt-get command that tries to upgrade your system04:43
esaci was just wondering why ubuntu is so damn cool. and i came to the realization that it still is only 1 cd to get going unlike others ill leave unnamed04:44
brownie17bob2,  why is it dangerous?04:44
bob2brownie17: it's not04:44
alec_brownie17: about 704:44
ironucklesHow do I configure an external monitor on my laptop?04:44
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Chipzzesac: maybe because by default it sticks to gnome and doesn't install kde?04:44
ssdd65bob2, it dosnt have somthing to so with the 686-smp kernel also being installed?04:44
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brownie17alec_,  can't help you, sorry04:44
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bob2esac: redhat's the only OS I know of that really needs more than one CD04:44
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sproingiekataklysm: i dist-upgraded hoary to breezy from within x, and that did major stuff with x.  worked fine.  theoretically it could kill off x and stop mid-upgrade, but i've never seen it happen04:44
alec_brownie17: why?04:44
bob2ssdd65: I don't know, but 2.6.11 in hoary is broken, do not use it04:44
steven_how can i configure a network interface, can somebody help me?04:44
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Chipzzesac: only using one toolkit (ok that's a lie :P) saves on space04:44
brownie17bob2,  then why did kataklysm say "see how many systems get broken"?04:44
ssdd65oooo04:44
alec_brownie17: can i manually download it04:44
esacbob2 : i just downloaded suse 10 on 5 cd's04:44
ssdd65thanks04:44
bob2haha04:45
alec_brownie17: im at source forge, but i dont know which one to use04:45
steven_fr500, dude where do you live?04:45
brownie17alec_, there will probably be a tar.gz on their website, or a script04:45
alec_brownie17: SUSE, red hat04:45
bob2brownie17: because kataklysm has been reading web forums inhabited by people who don't know what they are doing, apparently04:45
alec_brownie17: free bsd, mandrake04:45
brownie17alec_, sorry, i am a newbie myself pretty much, ask someone else04:45
dabaresac, ther eis also 14 debian CDs, but you can get all the packages through apt, so you need only one, or even the net boot cd, or eevn a floppy I think.04:45
jrattner1Where should i look for information on whether to see if the wireless card for my laptop will work or not?04:45
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esacisn't mandrive 4 cd's as well ?04:45
brownie17bob2,  ok :)04:45
bob2jrattner1: does it use a broadcom chipset?04:46
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alec_brownie17: thanks anyway04:46
ironucklesDoes anyone use Ubuntu on a laptop?04:46
jrattner1bob2, yes its an hp laptop04:46
fr500steven_, quito04:46
jeff303ironuckles: yep, right now04:46
alec_ bob2: can you help me>04:46
bob2jrattner1: then you're screwed unless you use ndiswrapper04:46
transgressi'd give bob2's right hand for an updated firefox package...04:46
jrattner1ironuckles, i do04:46
sproingiedabar: linuxhardware.net is good04:46
steven_fr500, thats cool i am from riobamba04:46
bob2alec_: you don't seem to be asking answerable questions04:46
arkanesmost distros can be installed off a single CD, but Fedora is retarded and spreads the base package across multiple CDs, even though they'd all fit on one04:46
jrattner1bob2, what is ndiswrapper04:46
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esacanybody know if the battery/laptop support is better in breezy ?04:46
sproingiedabar: me i just google for the hardware name and stick "linux" after it04:46
fr500steven_, keep it on topic here04:46
bob2esac: yes04:46
dabarsproingie: whats love got to do with it?04:46
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bob2jrattner1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper04:47
ironucklesjeff303, do you use an external monitor with your laptop?04:47
alec_ bob2: well i figured out that i dont know which one to pick, SUSE, red hat, free bsd. mandrake04:47
jrattner1esac, ubuntu is the only distro i could install on my laptop04:47
jeff303ironuckles: nope, sorry04:47
jrattner1i tried so many04:47
alec_ bob2: im at source forge04:47
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ironucklesk04:47
brownie17sproingie, http://www.google.com/linux is a linux based search engine powered by google04:47
jrattner1i love it now though04:47
fr500esac, hoary is great in my laptop04:47
bob2ironuckles: it's entirely chipset-dependent04:47
transgressjrattner1: if ubuntu installed, others should installed...04:47
esacfr500 : same here, but i can always hope for perfection04:47
frogger_anybody know what's going on in https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14316 ?04:47
bob2alec_: what on earth are you doing?04:47
sproingiedabar: i misdirected those for some reason04:47
transgressjrattner1: what happened with the others?04:47
alec_ bob2: the package for wine04:47
untwaawe've tried to put some games on it but it doest run.... what should i do?04:47
alec_ bob2: what base04:47
tristanmikebob2, your a machine guy(i assume you're a guy) :)04:47
bob2alec_: wine is in ubuntu already04:47
ironucklesbob2, okay, so is there a wiki page i should know about for this?04:47
frogger_i can't run lilo for some reason04:47
bob2untwaa: www.transgaming.com04:48
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untwaaif it ubunto can run games?04:48
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alec_ bob2: where?04:48
bob2alec_: in universe04:48
esacbob2 : that's nice to hear, i was hoping for some nice laptop improvements. im downloading it now04:48
bob2untwaa: www.transgaming.com04:48
alec_ bob2: that doesnt work04:48
bob2esac: do report bugs!04:48
megamanx2005anyone here had gaim 1.5 autopackage cause a problem on their hoary install?04:48
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alec_ bob2: the version is too new04:48
esacim finally taking the plunge and ridding  my laptop of windows04:48
bob2megamanx2005: talk to whoever made the autopackage04:48
sproingieyay04:48
PhuzionHey, does anyone know if it is possible to set up my machine as a mailserver?04:48
esacbob2 : gladly .. whats the url for bug reporting ?04:48
bob2Phuzion: sure it is04:48
alec_ bob2: at the website it said there are problems they need to fix04:48
jrattner1transgress, they would all lockup during the install, i suspected ACPI problems but after spending a month with SuSE customer support I gave up04:48
Phuzionbob2: What packages would I need?04:49
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bob2Phuzion: if you're on residental dsl or cable, tho, you probably can';t receive mail04:49
brownie17esac: :) no will be whne you realise you need windows for someting really important, and ubuntu will stop working :)04:49
fr500Phuzion, there are many alternattives, i like huulaserver04:49
bob2esac: bugzilla.ubuntu.com04:49
megamanx2005my bud said he got banned for saying it caused no problems on his hoary install04:49
megamanx2005any truth to that.. everyone has always been nice to me in here04:49
esacbrownie17 : vmware/qemu04:49
jrattner1transgress, I also have a  1440x900 display which was giving installers trouble04:49
daloydoyanyone successful viewing movie here?04:49
fr500Phuzion, if you have a public IP and unfiltered ports it will work04:49
fr500daloydoy, explain better04:49
naliothmegamanx2005: which bud is that?04:49
bob2megamanx2005: your friend appears to be an idiot04:49
PhuzionSo, since I'm on Adelphia, probably not, right?04:49
brownie17megamanx2005, he probably swore, i get in trouble for that all the time in here :(04:49
megamanx2005maynoth04:49
bob2nalioth: waaaassup04:49
bob2daloydoy: /msg ubotu restricted04:50
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megamanx2005he im'ed me on gaim about it04:50
megamanx2005LOL04:50
bob2Phuzion: what's your ip?04:50
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bob2Phuzion: (we can check)04:50
inan_how to add wine?04:50
Phuzion69.168.170.7604:50
naliothmegamanx2005: maynoth appears to have been troublesome for some time in here today04:50
thekopemani need help04:50
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inan_=D04:50
inan_how to add wine?04:50
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thekopemanhow do i install realplayer?04:50
daloydoyfr500: im using totem-xine got it working but no audio04:50
bob2inan_: /msg ubotu repositories04:51
bob2inan_: it's in universe04:51
bob2thekopeman: /msg ubotu restricted04:51
inan_ok04:51
naliothmegamanx2005: usually bans are lifted every 24 hours (providing the op CAN"T remember why he banned that particular person)04:51
fr500inan, wine is not very fast for games, it should be in synaptic after adding the repositories04:51
brownie17nalioth, hahah04:51
amittpHi, I am having problem viewing Video Streams using mplayer-plugin in firefox, anyone have same problem?04:51
naliothmegamanx2005: that's a hint04:51
bob2Phuzion: looks like it's blocked04:51
jrattner1I cant wait for the new release04:51
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inan_fr500 inan, wine is not very fast for games, it should be in synaptic after adding the repositories <-- how can i make my games faster?04:52
jrattner1linux is so sick04:52
jrattner1: )04:52
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bob2Phuzion: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix" would be the command to tell postfix to listen on the external interface04:52
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steven_hey how can i make a script to run at boot time04:52
brownie17nalioth, the worst thing that happened to me when i frist started using ubuntu was this: i had some error, and i was completely frustrated about it, i came on here, and someone told me to paste them the ouput of some file, and i did (but i didn't use pastebin). i got banned. i had no idea about pastebin and i wasn't given a second chance.04:52
thekopemanhow do i install realplayer?04:52
fr500inan, for windows games, you would need cedega but it's comercial, if it's worth it or not depends on if you succedd and how much u play04:52
bz0bhey Nakkel04:52
bz0bnalioth**04:53
brownie17steven_ put it in the startup folder04:53
naliothbrownie17: the /topic meets everyone who joins04:53
naliothbz0b: howdy04:53
ORiON2012fr500: It's not unless you play a select few games04:53
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fr500ORiON2012, many games work for me04:53
dabarthekopeman: at this point, the question is really how do I use IRC. What client are you using?04:53
Phuzionbob2, I have a router on my system though, so it may be that.04:53
bz0bnalioth: I am very sorry for my actions of last night, please don't allow my actions from last night to judge who i really am04:53
brownie17nalioth, yeah, but i somehow never read it, too big and jagony for me :)04:53
alexandrosdoes anyone a photo managing software that works with the Olympus D-540?04:53
thekopemanx-chat04:53
inan_fr500, so wine is useless to games..?04:54
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dabaralexandros: have you plugged the camera into the computer?04:54
chemisusjoin #sql04:54
brownie17bz0b, you are going to hell. :)04:54
transgresswell04:54
bz0balexandros: no, i have the one for the Canon Rebel XT though04:54
fr500inan, not really04:54
transgresssome games work with wine04:54
Madpilotalexandros: try gThumb04:54
ORiON2012fr500: only the standard fare work for me04:54
inan_in terms of grafix04:54
bz0bbrownie17: :P04:54
thekopemandabar: x-chat04:54
dooglusbob2: why did you tell transgress not to use dist-upgrade?04:54
dabarthekopeman: do you see a tab about the top, or the bottom for ubotu?04:54
transgressWarcraft3 works with wine04:54
thekopemanyes04:54
naliothbz0b: what was last night?04:54
bob2dooglus: because it was causing problems which aptitude would fix04:54
thekopemandabar: yes04:54
DeekinIm gonna guess WoW does not :)04:54
dabarthekopeman: go raed the pages he referenced, and his text.04:54
sproingielots of games work with wine, and quite well04:54
inan_Warcraft is same with starcraft04:54
sproingieDeekin: wow works just fine under wine04:54
transgressDeekin: you're good at guessing04:54
arkanesWoW works fine under wine04:54
megamanx2005back04:54
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bz0bnalioth: just out of curiosity, how bad was I? honestly i don't remember anything that I said, except for I came on IRC04:54
brownie17transgress, seriously!? that's advanced as for wine! i get some REALLY old games that don't even allow you to uyse the keyboard in them04:54
arkaneswell, almost fine, call it 98%04:55
dooglusbob2: then you suggested following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes, which recommends dist-upgrade...04:55
inan_and the grafix?04:55
sproingieold games are the ones that tend to have problems under wine04:55
alexandroson thankns, I tried gtkam but it does not support this model04:55
naliothbz0b: who was what? (iow, shhhhhhh)04:55
bz0bnalioth: I just remmeber like this one girl or soemthing04:55
megamanx2005well I wanted to test his theory... mostly because I don't believe him..04:55
bob2dooglus: to the same person?04:55
transgressbrownie17: yeah google warcraft 3 linux wine or something along those lines04:55
bz0bnalioth: :P04:55
Deekinim not sure who to believe now hehe04:55
transgressbrownie17: but you have to remove the videos... they hang04:55
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inan_ok04:55
naliothmegamanx2005: what theory are you testing?04:55
Deekinill make a good guess that it works fine under wine04:55
dooglusdooglus: perhaps not.  I don't think you addressed the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes URL to anyone04:55
arkanesDeekin: I'm on WoW right now04:55
PhuzionAlright, I need some help here from someone who knows Linkys routers.04:55
thekopemandabar: i did, but i still dont get it....04:55
Deekinreally?04:55
megamanx2005I for the record have been running gaim 1.5 (.package) on hoary since the .packaage was released04:55
dooglusbob2: oh, my bad.  you did.04:55
Deekinunder Wine?04:55
megamanx2005no problems... running all updates04:55
arkanesDeekin: using stock wine from the repository, no work required04:55
transgressarkanes: WoW with wine?04:55
scoovePhuzioni... what kind of prob?04:55
dabarthekopeman: what part?04:55
Deekinwow - thats awesome to hear!04:56
brownie17bz0b, you got adhd or something? forgetting what you said sounds pretty bad. maytbe you should get that checed out04:56
jeff303those of you running WC3, are you using Cedega or Wine?04:56
arkanesI installed the nvidia drivers, of course, and reniced it to 19 to help with the sound stutter04:56
ORiON2012jeff303: Cedega04:56
PhuzionIs it possible to run an IRCd from my machine with 6667 as the port, and port forward it on the router?04:56
bz0bbrownie17: I was under the influence04:56
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Deekinim almost done wiping my windowz box clean - tomorrow im installing ubuntu and we'll see from there :)04:56
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AngryParsleyso... I'm still having problems trying to install mplayer on breezy04:56
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naliothbz0b: -offtopic please with you and brownie1704:56
bob2Phuzion: yes04:56
vladuz976how do i install jre 1.5 in hoary?04:56
bz0bkk04:56
Deekini look forward to Wow On Nix then :)04:56
AngryParsleyit requires packages that it can't find04:56
thekopemandabar: im really new to linux, so the whole system is alien to me...04:56
fabiorizzohi04:56
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vladuz976jre is not in the repository anymore04:56
Phuzionbob2, could you check to see if they block incoming requests on 6667, or is that not possible?04:56
dabarthekopeman: do you know how to install things?04:56
AngryParsleyso I must be missing a repository or something04:56
scoovePhuzion: should be... haven't tried 6667 but even a wide dst-nat port redirection should work. can u do that?04:57
arkanesDeekin: framerate is slightly worse than under windows, maybe 10-20% slower04:57
scoovelock down the host on everything else tho04:57
Phuzionscoove, dst-nat  = lingo =confusion.04:57
brownie17nalioth, hahah forgive me. (*bows*)04:57
dabarthekopeman: things being software, programs...04:57
Deekini can live with that easily04:57
thekopemandabar: a little, but reealplayer is in a .bin file and all the posts i found tont help04:57
scoovephuzion: sorry, linksys supports a mode where you redirect all traffic for your outside public IP to an inside host.04:57
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Deekini just started a guy in emeral dream and am missing him hehe04:58
PhuzionI see.04:58
PhuzionSo, how would I go about doing this?04:58
dooglusbz0b: do you want a log of what you said last night?04:58
AngryParsleyvladuz976: yeah, why isn't jre in the repository any more? it's kind of important04:58
scoovephuzion: destination nat is what it's called, but i'm trying to remember linksys's name for that.  what router?04:58
dabarthekopeman: realplayer is a package in the hoary-extras repository, it seems.04:58
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bz0bdooglus: hmm, maybe not, i prefer to not have it remembered :-)04:58
PhuzionWRT54G04:58
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bz0bdooglus: but lets not stay off topic now04:58
thekopemandabar: i guess....04:58
marcin_anthi all04:58
dabarthekopeman: read the bottom of the addingrepositorieshowto page to see what you need to do.04:58
marcin_antI got pretty strange problem04:58
naliothmarcin_ant: tell us04:59
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scoovephuzion: awesome. not to sidetrack u but openwrt is fantastic.  openwrt.org04:59
marcin_antI use ubuntu breezy and I wanted to build some package04:59
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scoovephuzion: not sure if you want to invest in learning curve, but i use it and love it04:59
jrattner1bob2, how can i find out which windows driver I need for my wireless card?04:59
dooglusbz0b: if you get curious ever, it's here: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/bzob.txt04:59
ORiON2012AngryParsley: licensing issues04:59
PhuzionWhat is it, port forwarding or something?04:59
marcin_antthe thing is that I found in dpkg-architecture output04:59
alexandrosMadpilot: gthumb did not work04:59
scoovephuzion: no, it's a replacement open source OS for the WRT54G04:59
JDahlare there changes in audio between Hoary and Breezy e.g. in which sound server to use? My audio seems to be working, e.g., I can get a BELL sound from a terminal, but otherwise all playback seems muted04:59
fabiorizzohi everyone05:00
marcin_antthat my machine is..... DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE=i486-linux-gnu05:00
ColonelKerneldooglus, he does this silly routine every day, claiming he was intoxicated when he was just trolling. He's best left on ignore05:00
PhuzionOh, it's not even my router, I don't want to do something like that.05:00
scoovephuzion: totally wild. i use it a lot for kismet drones to sniff out people messing with my wifi networks05:00
AngryParsleyORiON2012: so is that why some mplayer dependencies aren't around either?05:00
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dabarthekopeman: you will be adding an outside repository, so that part of the repos page applies to you, and the Repository line will be the line on the bottom of the repos wiki page. try, and ask for more help when you get stuck.05:00
dooglusColonelKernel: oh, i see.05:00
marcin_antwhile my CPU is Athlon05:00
ORiON2012AngryParsley: good question05:00
scoovephuzion: oh, no - notif it's not yours!05:00
fabiorizzoi try to ping localhost, and i receive the message that not found05:00
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fabiorizzohow i fix this?05:00
dooglusColonelKernel: isn't that a bit sad?05:00
marcin_antnalioth, any idea?05:00
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ORiON2012AngryParsley: and yes05:00
ColonelKerneldooglus, a bit, yes :D05:00
AngryParsleybecause I'd love to install mplayer, but the package manager can't find 3 dependencies05:00
Colloidredhat is better than ubuntu, discuss.05:00
alexandrosMadpilot: gthumb I got the follwing error, An error occurred in the io-library ('Unsupported operation'): Camera is supported by USB Storage driver.05:00
ORiON2012AngryParsley: you can get w32codecs from marillat I believe05:01
BurgundaviaAngryParsley, hoary-extras is a better place for w32codecs05:01
AngryParsleyORiON2012: no, I can't even install just mplayer05:01
scoovephuzion: try this link - http://www.practicallynetworked.com/support/linksys_router_help_pg4.htm05:01
AngryParsleyBurgundavia: but I'm using weezy05:01
Fyawerxthere was a post on the forum for a mirror repository for w32codecs05:01
naliothmarcin_ant: i'm not too familiar with dpkg building things05:01
Fyawerxfor hoary at least05:01
naliothmarcin_ant: i usually cheat and use "checkinstall" instead of "make install" (not official debs, but enough for system maintenance)05:01
Fyawerxooh, is mirrormax back up?05:02
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BurgundaviaAngryParsley, hoary-extras shoudl work. and mplayer is in multiverse05:02
AngryParsleyBurgundavia: yes, but not all of its dependencies are05:02
ORiON2012AngryParsley: mplayer works and installs fine for me on breezy05:02
BurgundaviaAngryParsley, what is missing?05:02
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AngryParsleyfor example: Depends: libdirectfb-0.9-22  but it is not installable05:02
thekopemandabar: i know i sound like a noob, but when i was messing around with my user group, i made it non administator...05:02
Fyawerxthe backport repositories were down for a day or two, looks like its back up now05:02
AngryParsleyI'll paste it in #flood05:02
dooglusso bob2, when would you suggest 'dist-upgrade' and when 'aptitude' to upgrade from hoary to breezy?05:02
scooveColloid: redhat > ubuntu? i'm a 1993 linux user, distros incl: SLS, Slackware, Redhat, Debian and now Gentoo. considering Ubuntu. Left Redhat due to inflexibility with embedded and very customized builds05:02
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arkanesany idea how I convince X that I'm capable of more than 1024x768 resolution?05:02
Madpilotalexandros: hmm.. in that case you might be able to mount it as a drive - but mounting drives is something I haven't done yet...05:03
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dabarthekopeman: do you have any account that is administrative?05:03
dooglusscoove: I used to use SLS too.  it came on 31 floppies as I remember...05:03
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AngryParsleyso anyway, I need to know where to find those packages05:03
thekopemanonly the ones that are defalt...05:03
BurgundaviaAngryParsley, works for me? can you post your sources.list in flood?05:03
AngryParsleyyeah05:03
scoovedooglus: 31 floppies.. and you had to have two packs because one floppy would always be bad! hahaha05:03
fabiorizzohow i change the order to find dns name? like /etc/hosts ?05:03
dabarthekopeman: do you have a user name that is administrator?05:04
AngryParsleydeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908)] / breezy main restricted05:04
AngryParsleydeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted05:04
AngryParsley## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the05:04
AngryParsley## distribution.05:04
AngryParsleydeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted05:04
AngryParsleydeb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted05:04
AngryParsley## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'05:04
fabiorizzomy ubuntu can't see the /etc/hosts05:04
AngryParsley## repository.05:04
AngryParsley## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu05:04
thekopemanadmin i think05:04
codyanyone know how to install windows programs on linux?05:04
AngryParsley## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to05:04
AngryParsley## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in05:04
ORiON2012AngryParsley: easy05:04
AngryParsley## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security05:04
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scoovedns name in /etc/resolv.conf (should be standard)05:04
AngryParsley## team.05:04
AngryParsleydeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe restricted multiverse05:04
jrattner1Where can I get windows wireless drivers to use with ndiswrappers05:04
AngryParsley deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe05:04
AngryParsleydeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted05:04
codyd05:04
AngryParsleydeb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted05:04
misfit_toyAngryParsley, wget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb05:04
misfit_toysudo dpkg -i ./w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb05:04
doogluslol AngryParsley.05:04
AngryParsley deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe05:04
AngryParsley# deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe05:04
codyR0ar05:04
codyr0ar05:04
Madpilot!tell AngryParsley about paste05:04
codycool05:04
ORiON2012AngryParsley: was that fun?05:04
dooglusis that really necessary?05:04
AngryParsleyORiON2012: yes05:04
cody!trivia05:04
ubotucody: I don't know05:04
codyo05:04
codysorry05:04
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cody:P05:04
scooveyikes... this ch is fast!05:04
afaikis apache 2 broken in the latest repo?05:05
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AngryParsleymisfit_toy: I'd love to grab the win32 codecs, but I need to install mplayer first05:05
Codyi r cody05:05
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ORiON2012afaik: runs fine for me05:05
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AngryParsleyoh shit05:05
AngryParsleyI pasted in #ubuntu05:05
dabarAngryParsley: I hope you know what you did was a big annoyance.05:05
afaiklet me update and reinstall05:05
misfit_toyAngryParsley, sudo apt-get install gstreamer05:05
CodyI R CODY05:05
BurgundaviaAngryParsley, can you try that in #flood now?05:05
thekopemandabar: does that mean i have to reinstall linux?05:05
AngryParsleydabar: sorry, I thought I had #flood in focus05:05
dabarCody: are you ok?05:05
afaikit was working fine before, now suddenly it just hangs05:05
Toma-with k3b, if i copy a dvd, i get errors at a specific part of the dvd and stops copying... this because of copy procetion/encryption and whatever?05:05
dabarthekopeman: no, linux is rarely reinstalled.05:06
misfit_toyAngryParsley, sudo apt-get install gstreamer* in fact05:06
afaikI need apache realy bad...05:06
Topslakris there an official release date for the stable breezy?05:06
ORiON2012Toma-: is the disk scratched?05:06
CodyHow do i install a new theme?05:06
nimrahello, i'm running the Ubuntu live CD, can anyone tell me the root password please, thank toy05:06
dooglusTopslakr: 13/10 I think05:06
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Codydo i need gtk?05:06
thekopemandabar: how in the hell am i supposed to fix this?05:06
Toma-ORiON2012: nope... but its a cheap copy05:06
Topslakrthx dooglus, where did u read that? I can't find it anywhere05:06
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Toma-it plays fine tho05:06
Madpilotnimra: no such thing. use sudo instead05:06
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dooglusTopslakr: I saw it in wikipedia today05:06
nimrathank you05:07
Topslakr:) thx05:07
AngryParsleyok, I used paste to make http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/239105:07
dooglusTopslakr: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Linux#Releases05:07
Kataklsymi got my ubuntu install finished, seems pretty damn fast actually05:07
ORiON2012Toma-: what's the exact error? (msg or flood pls)05:07
BurgundaviaAngryParsley, try commenting out the cd and trying again05:07
Toma-error reading sector 30219005:07
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dabarthekopeman: usually, there is an admin group in ubuntu hoary installs. otherwise, you will be adding your user to sudoers file. You of course need to be root, so you will reboot, and boot into safe mode, or recovery mode is what I think it is called. Then, hopefully, all you will need to do is adduser thekopeman admin. Otherwise, you will add yourself to the sudoers file. What editor do you know how to use(command line one)?05:07
Toma-something liek that05:07
Toma-*like05:08
benplautwill a sudo aptitude uninstall kubuntu-desktop get rid of all it installed?05:08
AngryParsleyBurgundavia: I don't have the CD in my drive, is that neccessary?05:08
ORiON2012Toma-: then I'd make sure the disk isn't damaged and that wherever the temp data is stored isn't filling up05:08
thekopemandabar: like termainal?05:08
afaikgoddamn it... I did an apt-get install over it, ran apache2ctl restart, and the fucker still hangs05:08
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Toma-rightio05:08
thekopemandabar: or like a text editor05:08
afaikproblem only ssems to be fixed temporarily if I reboot05:09
BurgundaviaAngryParsley, oh wait, your sources.list is messed05:09
inan_how to installa patches.. :  d3d9patch.2005-04-28-2.diff05:09
Phuzionscoove, so, what exactly is it called when I set up my external IP address to forward to a certain port on my network?05:09
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dabarthekopeman: yes, the trerminal is a.k.a. command line. a text only text editor, so, other than gedit.05:09
dooglusPhuzion: that's called port-forwarding.05:09
inan_how to installa patches.. ex:   d3d9patch.2005-04-28-2.diff05:09
thekopemandabar: i know enough to get by...05:09
afaikwtf05:10
afaikgoddamn it05:10
PhuzionSo, if I wanna port forward to 6667, I would do TCP 6667 connections, right?05:10
dabarthekopeman: of which editor? vi, nano, emacs?05:10
untwaado this ubunto LINUX can supports for cafe time?05:10
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dooglusPhuzion: you can forward TCP port 6667 or UDP port 6667.  what's it for?05:10
inan_untwaa where u from?05:10
thekopemandabar: none. im very new...05:10
alec_Can anybody help me make wine work, my version is 20050310?????05:10
dooglusPhuzion: if it's for an IRC server, that's TCP05:10
Kataklsymdamn, should there be like 100 updates available for breezy when i just got it installed?05:10
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dooglusKataklsym: sure.05:11
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AngryParsleyugh05:11
untwaainan_ untwaa where u from?: cagayan05:11
Kataklsymdooglus: its like every package on here though05:11
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dooglusKataklsym: I updated about 6 hours ago, and there are another 21 updates ready already.05:11
hoslerIm looking to buy a laptop to run linux. I will use this laptop for school, programming, and some gaming. Any suggestions?05:11
dabarthekopeman: well...let me see.05:11
dooglusKataklsym: probably.  breezy changes a lot.  what did you install?05:11
nimraumm, i'm kinda new and i tried to mount my NTFS sda1 to a root folder /win but i cant access it05:11
arkaneshosler: linuxcertified.com05:11
inan_untwaa, ok05:11
bob2hosler: something from ibm05:12
hosleraskanes: took a look at it allready05:12
inan_how to installa patches.. ex:   d3d9patch.2005-04-28-2.diff05:12
hoslerbob2: ok05:12
dabarHow can I list existing, or check whether a specific group exists on my system?05:12
bob2inan_: #winehq05:12
dooglusKataklsym: all the xorg packages got updated today, and openoffice.org too05:12
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inan_thnx bob205:12
arkanesnimra: you need to add a umask when you mount it, otherwise it will only be accessible by root05:12
untwaainan_: were you from?05:12
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PhuzionDoes someone want to see if I got this IRC working right?05:12
made2bgentlediscreetbai05:12
ORiON2012big kubuntu update yesterday05:12
inan_untwaa, butuan city05:12
bob2dabar: getent group blah05:12
Kataklsymdooglus: that makes sense then05:13
arkanesdooglus: and dbus, no less than 3 times :P05:13
Kataklsymwhat is the path to icon files besides the default gnome on ubuntu gets, like the normal firefox icon, where is that?05:13
untwaai cnt go with irc undernet server.... how can i connect to irc undernet??05:13
ORiON2012Kataklsym: /usr/share/pixmaps has a lot05:14
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made2bgentlehi05:14
made2bgentlekinsay d tawo dnhi05:14
made2bgentlechat ta05:14
untwaahahaha mao mao chat chat dyud05:14
dooglusI just ran "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop".  It wants to install 116 new packages, and download 158Mb of archives...05:14
untwaai cnt go with irc undernet server.... how can i connect to irc undernet??05:14
PhuzionYou may be G-lined05:14
dabarthekopeman: getent group admin in a terminal please.05:14
drsynackuatori can connect to undernet just fine05:14
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made2bgentleme eithere05:15
made2bgentlekinda confuse05:15
made2bgentlena05:15
bob2come on folks05:15
untwaahmmmm05:15
bob2English and on-topic05:15
KataklsymORiON2012: it doesnt have the standard firefox icon though05:15
untwaawat should i do?05:15
drsynackuatorbob2 i swear sometimes you're a bot05:15
ORiON2012Kataklsym: could always locate firefox.png05:15
dabarhe is actually a very knowledgeable person when it comes to IRC tech support. drsynackuator.05:16
arkanesKataklsym: firefoxes default icon is in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/chrome/icons/default05:16
thekopemandabar: ok, what did that do?05:16
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alex323hey all05:16
PhuzionCan I ask some people to beta test my server?05:16
dabarwhat did it do, you tell me, thekopeman.05:16
alex323I recently tried to upgrade to breezy from horay05:16
dabarany output at all? thekopeman?05:16
alex323I edited sources.list and apt-get updated05:17
alex323But 288 packages are being kept back05:17
alex323any ideas?05:17
PhuzionI just want to see if the server works from outside IP ranges05:17
thekopemandabar: yes,"admin:x:109:"05:17
bob2alex323: use aptitude05:17
inan_i think my proble is wine05:17
inan_=D05:17
inan_thanks bob205:17
dooglusbob2: why aptitude and not dist-upgrade?05:17
inan_problem05:17
Kataklsymarkanes: im talking about the icon that is of the fox on fire, not the boring lil globe05:17
bob2dooglus: because it lets you unbreak dependencies more easily05:17
bob2dooglus: e.g. it will show you why things are held back, and you can perhaps remove one packege to allow those 288 to be upgraded05:18
dooglusbob2: ok...05:18
arkanesKataklsym: I don't have the fox on fire icon anywhere in my install05:18
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ORiON2012Kataklsym: that is the default05:18
arkanesKataklsym: but I'm sure you could grab it from the mozilla website somewhere, bearing in mind that it's trademarked05:19
dooglusarkanes: I think it's because the image isn't 'free'05:19
arkanesdooglus: no doubt05:19
alex323a ha!05:19
bob2mozilla.org forbids ubuntu from using the proper logo05:19
alex323apt-get dist-upgrade did the trick!05:19
bob2oh, yeah, that too05:19
bob2upgrade isnn't very useful for going between releases05:20
alexandrosMadpilot: Thank you for your assistance05:20
Toma-bob2: really?05:20
dabarthekopeman: rebootstrap:)( restart the computer), then boot into safe mode. That will get you to a console, command line. In there, type in adduser thekopeman admin(replace thekopeman with your user name on that computer) then rebootstrap:) again, and boot into normal ubuntu. Then you will have an administrative account. Once you do, you will add an Outside repository, as shown at https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto. For t05:20
ORiON2012Toma-: dist-upgrade05:20
Toma-what?05:20
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bob2Toma-: upgrade only upgrades packages ie move every installed package to the latest version.  dist-upgrade does the same thing, but will install and remove other things to do so05:20
vladuz976can someone tell me why i get this with synaptic: "Depends: transcode  but it is not installable"05:21
thekopemandabar whats rebootstrap?05:21
Toma-i knew that... i was asking aout the mozilla thing05:21
bob2Toma-: e.g. ubuntu-desktop can't be "upgrade"'d because it Depends on...openoffice version 97 or something, so dist-upgrade would install openoffice 97, too05:21
ORiON2012Toma-: oh05:21
bob2oh05:21
dabarits in brackets after the first time I use it - restart the computer, I am just using a funny term:) thekopeman.05:21
Toma-;)05:21
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arkanesany idea who the Ubuntu wxPython maintainer is? The packages are laid out differently than the stock wxPython ones and none of the seem to have the demo05:22
thekopemandabar: ill be back i guess, i hope this works....05:22
dabarbob2: do you know there is a script on the forums for changing the fx logo?05:22
dabarthekopeman: remember what you have to do.05:22
jrattner1How do you find files with gogogle05:22
jrattner1google05:22
MatCwhat files?05:22
dabarthekopeman: it does work, just depends on whether you get it rifght.05:22
jrattner1MatC, like drivers05:22
MatCtype "drivers download"05:22
thekopemandabar: good point....05:23
ORiON2012arkanes: apt-cache show <pkg>05:23
bob2dabar: fx logo?05:23
dooglusIf called with two non-option arguments, adduser will add an05:23
dooglusexisting user to an existing group.05:23
bob2jrattner1: that's a bad idea05:23
bob2jrattner1: for ubuntu, anyway05:23
dabarff bob2, fx is firefox afaik.05:23
bob2oh, ok05:23
dabardid you know?05:23
MatCnight all05:23
jrattner1bob2, where can I find the drivers bcmwl5a.inf and bcmwl5a for ndiswrappers?05:23
arkanesORiON2012: thanks05:24
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jrattner1bcmwl5a.sys05:24
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cevizoglujrattner1, from your hardware vendor05:24
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bob2jrattner1: from wherever you got your laptop05:24
bob2dabar: no, don't read the forums05:24
jrattner1bob2, would it be on the CD? because i can only find bcmwl5a.inf on the windows filesystem not bcmwl5a.sys05:25
Lickerwhats the command to install PHP4-MySQL?  i tried apt-get install php4-mysql but it tried to get it off the CD.05:25
dabarbob2: there is a script for setting up the proper logo. very simple to use.05:25
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dooglusthere's a firefox icon here: http://img245.echo.cx/img245/3401/mozicon1282nz.png05:26
scoovePhuzion: sorry... just got back. had 2 say goodnite to kids05:26
wapuruhello05:26
untwaapanget  mo      ka        baboy       si         macmackoy          kokie05:26
chemisushow can one get the java run time installed using synaptics?05:26
bob2untwaa: please stop it05:26
nalioth!ph05:26
scooveoops... missed him. oh well!05:26
ubotunalioth: I don't know, could you explain it?05:26
dabarbob2: changes the Apps>Internet icon, and even the one you get in the window list in gnome-panel, pretty neat. I dont use fx, howevder.05:26
bob2Licker: that's because apti is configured to use the cd05:26
Lickerhow do i change it?05:26
bob2Licker: remove it from /etc/apt/sources.list if you don't want it to05:26
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vladuz976anybody know why transcode is not in apt?05:26
SlicerDicerhow much diskspace does the base install take of ubuntu?05:27
untwaa(+_+)(+_+)(+_+)05:27
Lickerohh.. ok thanx bob205:27
untwaaljk05:27
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naliothuntwaa: be civil please05:27
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brownie17what is the d\ifference between ending a process and killing it05:27
bob2vladuz976: because it failed to biuld05:27
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untwaasywywyywy\05:27
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brownie17untwaa: mind your friggen language05:27
brownie17bob2: did you ban him or kick him?05:28
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naliothbrownie17: ending means "gracefully" (saves configs, etc). killing is stopping it in it's tracks05:28
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vladuz976bob2, i need it for dvd::rip05:28
bob2untwaa: removed fro mthe channel05:28
naliothuntwaa: be civil please05:28
bob2vladuz976: ok05:28
brownie17nalioth, thanks05:28
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pp_somebody here is working with breezy w/ a french canadian keyboard?05:28
untwaasorry for that my young brother do it05:28
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bob2untwaa: next time it will be a ban05:28
vladuz976bob2, how do you know it failed? have you tried?05:28
nybblehmm05:29
untwaaim sorry05:29
brownie17untwaa, sure boy, sure. you are going to hell05:29
nybbleh264 on linux.... possible?05:29
nybblewatching h26405:29
naliothbrownie17: be civil05:29
bob2vladuz976: no, no05:29
brownie17nalioth, :)05:29
javshello05:29
naliothnybble: of course. i use it05:29
siucdudegood evening everyone i have a challange tonigh05:29
nybblewell, what do i have to use nalioth...05:29
vladuz976bob2, so how do you know?05:29
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nybblei've never gotten h264 to work on even MacOSX05:29
nybbleffs05:29
nybbleerr..05:29
nybblefor fudge sakes05:29
nybbleoki,05:29
siucdudehas enyone seen this before "/var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another proces"05:29
untwaaits my younger brother a 5 yrs old age..........  sorry for that he doesnt knw what he doing05:30
bob2vladuz976: dvdrip is installable in breezy, tho, as is transcode05:30
dabarsiucdude: what gives you that error?05:30
nybbleme, nalioth?05:30
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arkanessiucdude: it means more than one app at a time is trying to install packages05:30
thekopemandabar: i feel really stupid for asking but how do i reboot into safemode?05:30
siucdudeapt-get upgrade or synaptic05:30
vladuz976bob2, so should i upgrade to breezy then?05:30
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inan_how about webcams?05:30
nalioththekopeman: choose "rescue" at the grub prompt05:30
bz0byummy05:30
vladuz976bob2, but that is still unstable, huh? how usable is it?05:30
siucdudei only use sudo apt-get upgrade05:30
inan_can somebody help how to install webcam?05:30
dabarthekopeman: while rebooting, you are asked what to boot into, right?05:31
bob2vladuz976: depends if you an deal with somethings being broken or no05:31
arkanessiucdude: you've got an orphaned apt-get process, most likely05:31
thekopemandabar: so i press 'esc'?05:31
bob2I wouldn't use it if you care about binary drivers05:31
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vladuz976bob2, well not really. will it be fixes until oct?05:31
bob2vladuz976: hm?05:31
inan_can somebody help how to install webcam?05:31
siucdudearkanes: ?what is orphaned05:31
vladuz976bob2, isn't the release in early october05:31
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dabarthekopeman: I dont use hoary install, I upgrade warty to hoary, so it may be diff here. If it asks to press escape to go to grub menu, then yes.05:32
userverbob2 I try in the ubuntu es.. But nobody can help me.. Do you know how can i  install the scaner. Is "all in one".. Printer can work, but scanner no..05:32
KanRiNiNHey, anybody in here familiar with Ethereal?  do I need another program besides ethereal?  I try to quickstart it and keep getting errors05:32
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KanRiNiNI can't get Kismet to work either05:32
thekopemanok, here i go again.....05:32
dabarsiucdude: close synaptic, and try aptitude again, or apt-get05:32
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goose_boyhello05:32
goose_boyexcuse me, what do i have to add to my sources file for mplayer and the likes?05:32
bob2vladuz976: yes05:32
goose_boyi thought it was all in the universe05:32
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nalioth!tell goose_boy about restricted05:33
goose_boybut synaptic doesnt find it05:33
siucdudearkanes: i did that i closed everything and then tried only apt-get upgrade and it still gave me that error i even reinstalled apt05:33
Leoandru!rules05:33
ubotuLeoandru: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!05:33
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bob2goose_boy: no, multiverse05:33
nybblehey, is this round of breezy updates safe?05:33
bob2userver: try the user list05:33
bob2Kataklsym: ethereal is all you need if you want a protocol analyser05:33
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goose_boybob2, multiverse?05:33
bob2yes05:33
goose_boyso, ow do i add that05:33
brownie17bob2, how do i add repsonses to ubotu for when it doesn't understand the question? :)05:33
dooglusthere was a nick collision for "KanRiNiN"?  how unlucky is THAT?05:33
arkanessiucdude: how did you reinstall apt if apt didn't work?05:33
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dabarsiucdude: sudo killall apt-get ; sudo killall aptitude; sudo killall synaptic; sudo killall dpkg05:34
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bob2goose_boy: /msg ubotu repositories05:34
bob2brownie17: I think it's hard-coded05:34
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siucdudearkanes: downloaded the file apt 'new one' and did sudo dpkg -i05:34
dabardooglus: he retook his nick from another login, or so.05:34
cevizoglubob2: no it isn't05:34
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siucdudedabar: what next05:34
made2bgentlehello pipol05:35
made2bgentlekinsay tawo dnhi05:35
dabartry now. siucdude05:35
bob2made2bgentle: english, only.05:35
dabarmade2bgentle: this channel likes to talk in english.05:35
cevizogluyou would say !foo is bar05:35
made2bgentleah ok05:35
goose_boyso use the mirrormax stuff?05:35
made2bgentleso05:35
goose_boyubuntu-backports?05:35
goose_boyuse that repository?05:35
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made2bgentleany one frm phils05:35
siucdudedabar: when i killall i got no process killed05:36
scoove?: why ubuntu vs. unstable debian? i've read distrowatch review and don't quite like gnome's instability. clean, concise installs are desirable. how is ubuntu's stability?05:36
steven_how can i make a script to be run at boot time05:36
siucdudedabar: and now i got the same error05:36
Kataklsymdpkg -i package.deb will install a debian package right?05:36
scoovesteven: if ubuntu like most *nix's, rc.local can run local script05:36
dabarsiucdude: thats all I can think of.05:36
dooglussteven_: call it from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh05:36
scoovedooglus: no rc.local, eh?05:37
dooglusscoove: we don't have rc.local05:37
scooveyikes... another distro to learn. sigh05:37
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Lickerbob2: What is the command to get to the sources list?05:37
dooglusscoove: I only learnt that a few hours ago too - I was also trying to 'locate rc.local'05:37
steven_scoove should i just put my script in rc.local folder?05:37
nalioth!ph05:38
ubotusomebody said ph was tagalog is spoken in #ubuntu-ph05:38
dooglussteven_: call it from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh05:38
bob2made2bgentle: #ubuntu-ph05:38
bob2Licker: it's a text file, you edit it05:38
YankDownUnderWhat's the best means by which to disable the graphical login so that I can just login via console (runlevel 3) ??05:38
scoovesteven - listen to dooglus05:38
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siucdudedabar: is there any way to find out which process is runing config.dat and kill that05:38
Lickeryea how would I find it to edit it then?05:38
dooglusYankDownUnder: remove 'gdm' from runlevel 205:38
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YankDownUnderdooglus: Ta mate05:38
scoovebetter advice than mine05:38
thekopemandabar: now i feel just plain stupid....05:38
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bob2Licker: /etc/apt/sources.list05:39
steven_dooglus: do i need to vi bootmisc.sh?05:39
Christophe971eternally this file :)05:39
goose_boywhat mplayer should i use for an xp athelon system?05:40
goose_boy686?05:40
YankDownUndertrevorr: Did you port GRAMPS for ubuntu yet?05:40
scoovesteven: that's a minor pet peeve of mine... having started on ultrix, everyone wants to put conf files in their own unique place. solaris, hp/ux, openbsd, etc.05:40
Kataklsymi want to install xmms, but it says libgtk1.2 and libglib1.2 not installed, i just installed breezy, don't i have newer packages than those?05:40
Lickeroh crap dumb question05:40
Christophe971goose_boy> mplayer sux05:40
trevorrI don't have to, Don already did that05:40
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dabarthekopeman: if so, it means I did not explain well enough.05:40
bob2Kataklsym: er, xmms is in ubuntu05:40
goose_boyChristophe971, i didnt ask if it sucks05:40
goose_boyalso what kernel should i use?05:40
Christophe971goose_boy> okay05:40
goose_boyalso the 686?05:40
Kataklsymbob2: hmm its not on here anywhere05:40
Christophe971i guess so05:41
arkanesKataklsym: xmms uses gtk1.2 and afaik has never been rewritten to use gtk2.x05:41
thekopemandabar: u explainded it great, but im just plain stupid....05:41
dooglussteven_: yup05:41
dooglussteven_: "sudo vi bootmisc.sh"05:41
Christophe971but if i'm not crazy, the mplayer pkg is bugged05:41
bob2Kataklsym: /msg ubotu repositories05:41
dooglussteven_: you need to do it as root, see?05:41
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dabarthekopeman: I think not. OK, enough of the intro. What happened?05:41
goose_boyso do i want the 686 versions?05:41
Christophe971"bugged" i don't know if it's the right english for that05:41
Christophe971goose_boy, yes man05:41
Kataklsymbob2: why do i not have xmms?05:42
thekopemandabar: i got to the grub> but i forgot the rest,05:42
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steven_dooglus: whats should i write if the script is called firewall-new and its located in /root/examples/05:42
bob2Kataklsym: what?05:42
dabarthekopeman: you got a prompt saying grub>?05:42
Christophe971damn05:42
dooglussteven_: put "/root/examples/firewall-new" right at the end.05:42
Lickeronce there do i just uncomment the lines or delete something?05:42
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Kataklsymbob2: you said that ubuntu had xmms in it, why doesnt breezy?05:42
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dooglussteven_: I think it's ok to put it after the ": exit 0" line05:43
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thekopemandabar: yea or something like it05:43
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bob2Kataklsym: wtf05:43
bob2Kataklsym: it does05:43
bob2Kataklsym: /msg ubotu repositories05:43
cfh_devWhat package(s) do I install to get Gnome?  I'm currently running KDE.05:43
Kataklsymwell where the hell is it?05:43
bob2Kataklsym: you didn't tell apt that you want to use unsupported software yet05:43
Christophe971there's a man which worked on (it's his "function here") the quebec kbd package05:43
bob2cfh_dev: ubuntu-desktop05:43
cfh_devbob2: thanks05:43
crimsunKataklsym: it's in main. It's not installed by default for good reason: a suitable alternative is installed.05:43
Christophe971and the man who work on his integration through breezy don't respond05:43
steven_dooglus: ok thanks05:43
Christophe971i thinks it'llnot be integred ton breezy05:44
dooglussteven_: make sure the script has execute permission: "chmod 755 /root/examples/firewall-new"05:44
dabarthekopeman: that is in fact not where you were going. go to http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl that is what we use to paste text. then, in a terminal, do: cat /boot/grub/menu.lst . then, paste the output to the paste site.05:44
Christophe971that will make a lot of bordel05:44
racoon97Christophe971> lol05:44
steven_dooglus05:44
steven_yes it has05:44
dooglusxmms is in main in breezy05:44
goose_boyexcuse me when i try to install software it asks me to insert the disk05:44
goose_boyi press cancel05:44
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GuidoBobQuequeg: Hola. You snog grappling Montoya :P05:45
cfh_devbob2: is there a way to remove the kde stuff if I decide to keep gnome?05:45
goose_boyand i get this... W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gtk+1.2/libgtk1.2-common_1.2.10-17_all.deb05:45
bob2cfh_dev: debfoster, I guess05:45
bob2cfh_dev: use aptitude in future05:45
inan_how to add this05:46
inan_winetools:05:46
inan_ Depends: xdialog  but it is not installable05:46
inan_ Depends: gtk-smooth-themes  but it is not installable05:46
cfh_devbob2: I'm using synaptic.  Do I just have to pick out the right packages to get kde off the drive or can I remove kubuntu-desktop?05:46
GuidoBobb2s: Savings-account's camera belongs to spotty oven!!!05:46
bob2cfh_dev: removing it won't help05:46
crimsuninan_: do you have universe enabled?05:46
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GuidoBobBROKEN_LADDER: Hola. Prove to me that you don't excrete delightful gobstoppers?!05:46
steven_i just installed apache2 but it doesnt want to start05:46
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inan_how to enable universe? at source.list?05:46
steven_what should i do?05:46
inan_crimsun,  how to enable universe? at source.list?05:47
bob2inan_: /msg ubotu repositories05:47
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goose_boydoes anyon eknow why it is doing that?05:47
Christophe971steven_> uninstall and compile a cute apache 1.3 (with php and mysql compiled too)05:47
cfh_devbob2: is aptitude like synaptic?05:47
bob2goose_boy: if you don't want to use the cd, don't configure apt to use it05:47
ORiON2012goose_boy: It's looking for it on the CD05:47
bob2cfh_dev: similar idea, but curses05:47
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steven_Christophe971: and how should i do that?05:47
thekopemandabar: can u explain that again?05:47
ORiON2012goose_boy: comment out the CD line from /etc/apt/sources.list05:48
Christophe971steven_> you don't know how to compile ?05:48
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Christophe971steven_> first install build-essentials (sudo apt-get install build-essentials)05:48
steven_then?05:48
Christophe971steven_> then download apache 1.33 sources and make fun05:48
racoon97Christophe971> sudo apt-get install build-essential05:48
bob2wtf05:48
Christophe971steven_> just read the readme and INSTALL into it05:48
racoon97no ?05:49
Christophe971racoon97> yes thanks05:49
bob2Christophe971: why are you advising steven_ to do this?05:49
Christophe971without the s at the end05:49
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Christophe971bob2> because05:49
bob2steven_: explain what "doesn't start" actually means05:49
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Christophe971bob2> apachectl graceful ?05:49
Christophe971:)05:49
steven_bob2: /etc/init.d/apache2 start does not do anything05:49
bob2steven_: did you install the apache2 package?05:50
Christophe971steven_> try it in sudo mode05:50
thekopemandabar: what?05:50
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dabarsec05:50
Christophe971racoon97> the first WHAT !05:50
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racoon97Christophe971> the first smiley05:51
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steven_i did it as root but id doesnt work, i already installed the apache2 package, everything is there but it just doesnt work05:51
dabarthekopeman: cat is a command used to list a file. it is used in a terminal. cat /boot/grub/menu.lst will list your boot menu configuration file into the terminal you type the command into. http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is a web site we use to paste large amounts of text so the person we are speaking to sees the output of commands. Do not paste in the channel.05:51
Christophe971racoon97> yes damned, i haven't make attention05:51
inan_ Depends: xdialog  but it is not installable <--- hows this?05:51
Christophe971didn't05:51
thekopemandabar: i got it pasted, now what?05:51
bob2steven_: dude05:51
dabarthekopeman: now I read it.05:52
bob2steven_: you're not being helpful05:52
Christophe971steven_> try http://localhost:808005:52
bob2steven_: what do your logs say?05:52
bob2steven_: is it running already?05:52
thekopemandabar: kk05:52
Christophe971bob2> i guess it first configured in 8080 port05:52
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DeekinTanaris05:52
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ORiON2012Christophe971: um, no05:52
Christophe971no ?05:52
Christophe971mistake so05:52
Christophe971a compiled apache is first configured with this port05:53
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ORiON2012Christophe971: default apache2 packages go on 80 like the rest of the apache2 packages out there for other distros05:53
steven_its running now05:53
Christophe971ORiON2012, oki05:53
racoon97I think so05:53
Christophe971steven_> how didi you do05:53
Christophe971did*05:53
dabarthekopeman: see, at the bottom of that file, there are three entries. right under the  ####EndDefaultOptions## line. The title line is what you should see when you boot. so three title lines, with those titles from that file. the second one is the recovery option, do you think you can boot into that now?05:53
ompThis APT has Super Cow Powers.05:53
omp=o05:53
Christophe971lol omp05:54
racoon97Christophe971> when you install a second apache maybe05:54
ompwhat's up with that being in the apt-get --help? :)05:54
thekopemandabar: the recovery mode?05:54
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dabarthekopeman: yes. Do you remember seeing those three options? ubuntu, ubuntu recovery, and ubuntu memtest?05:55
steven_Christophe971: i removed and installed it againg05:55
steven_*again05:55
Christophe971steven_> damn05:55
thekopemandabar: yes i do, and yes i can boot into thoes05:55
Christophe971racoon97> no no, it's like that, don't matter, you haven't the l3t sk1llz05:55
Christophe971l33t sk1llz i mean05:56
Christophe971fo sho'05:56
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dabarthekopeman: you should boot into the recovery mode.05:57
thekopemandabar: ok sounds good, here i go again....05:57
qt2done cleaning my keyboard... that was... eventful... <.<;05:57
dabaromp: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=easter+eggs+super+cow+powers&btnG=Search05:57
ORiON2012qt2: crusties fuzzies and lots of skin?05:57
qt2no skin, but hair :D05:58
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akin_tohi, anyone can help me how to start developing software under ubuntu?05:59
ompdabar, hehe thanks :)05:59
qt2@ ORiON2012... :D05:59
bob2akin_to: in what language?05:59
arkanesakin_to: .... the same way you'd start developing on any other platform?05:59
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Christophe971dewa06:00
dabaromp: its just a "joke" no real meaning, afaik.06:00
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akin_toafter I install ubuntu, i cant find a developement application...06:00
akin_tobob2 wat application will I use.. or should i install another application?06:01
ORiON2012akin_to: there's lots of those, what language were you looking for an IDE in?06:01
bob2akin_to: a "development application"?  what language and toolkit do you want to use?06:01
freeman_08akin to.... u filipino06:01
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akin_toyes im a filipino, and currently im using visual studio products06:02
bob2holy god06:02
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freeman_08taga san ka?06:02
ORiON2012lol06:02
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dabarbob2: no.06:02
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dabarbob2: somewhat better.06:02
qt2breezy hit stable or something?06:03
akin_todami ba pilipino dito?06:03
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freeman_08not sure06:03
freeman_08any filipinos around?06:03
akin_toim from makati..06:03
freeman_08me sa lb06:03
bob2freeman_08: #ubuntu-ph06:03
freeman_08ic06:03
bob2freeman_08: english in here. if you prefer tagalg, #ubuntu-ph06:03
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akin_tofreeman_08 can u help me?06:03
jrattner1Yes wireless is working06:04
akin_toshould i install QT?06:04
freeman_08newbie me...06:04
goose_boythanks06:05
akin_toany1 can give me an idea?06:05
bob2akin_to: you need to be more specific about what you hope to do06:05
cevizogluakin_to, which language?06:05
ORiON2012akin_to: It's like asking, "I want to write text, what application should I install?"06:06
freeman_08bob2 do u know how i could see the computers in my network... i cnt share them06:06
dabarakin_to: if you are developing software, you will be using a programming language. check out mono http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page for .net similar stuff. Tell us what prog language you would like to use, and we will have a programing/development environment for you.06:06
dabarI hate the grammar in that sentence.06:06
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akin_took, how bout C language... or Java06:07
thekopemandabar: would it be wrong to say that ur awsome.....06:07
dabarthekopeman: very much so.06:07
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thekopemandabar: ur awsome, now what do i do now?06:07
dabarakin_to: heard of eclipse? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE that is for Java.06:07
ORiON2012akin_to: for Java, Eclipse is nice, for C I just use vim06:07
cevizogluakin_to, personally I use make and gcc for builds, and vim for editing06:07
freeman_08para san ung eclipse?06:08
freeman_08akin to.. me network na ba mga pc mo?06:08
akin_tothanks Orion2012 and also dabar06:08
bob2freeman_08: english please06:08
zer0`theres a C plugin for eclipse06:08
freeman_08sorry06:08
bob2freeman_08: if you prefer tagalog, try #ubuntu-ph06:08
dabarthekopeman: well, to test, first of all, try opening your package manager, synaptic. It will ask for a password, so type in yours. If you get to synaptic(the password is accepted) you added yourself to the admin group.06:08
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freeman_08i thought i was in #ubuntu-ph06:08
freeman_08sorry06:08
akin_toyup, iv already setup a network freeman_0806:09
thekopemandabar:  it didnt ask but im in06:09
dabarthekopeman: it did not ask for a password?06:09
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dabarthekopeman: did you start any other applications that asked for a password since you rebooted?06:09
ORiON2012thekopeman: it may have been cached06:09
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thekopemandabar: yes, i went to users and groups06:10
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akin_tois there any counter part of VB?06:10
thekopemandabar: thats what i figured06:10
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megamanx2005I have a question for the room06:11
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cevizogluakin_to, I would recommend python or ruby instead06:11
cevizogluakin_to, or php06:11
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ORiON2012akin_to: you can try Mono, which is a .NET implementation, but there is no exact VB equivalent06:11
akin_towhere can I get ruby or python installer cevizoglu?06:12
megamanx20052 part;  has anyone heard of autpackage(windows type installer for linux, with unistall) and if so have they ever seen an instance where it has caused any problems?06:12
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freeman_08anyone who could help me in filesharing?06:12
cevizogluakin_to, they're already there in ubuntu06:12
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freeman_08i cant see the other computers06:12
dabarthekopeman: ok, that is why. You did add yourself, good. Now, you want to add a repository to synaptic. an outside one. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto shows how that is done. WHen you get to the Repository line part, use the Hoary Extras repository line from the bottom of the same, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto, page.06:12
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bob2megamanx2005: #autopackage06:13
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akin_toWhere can I find them? cevizoglu06:13
bob2also, it's a channel, not a room06:13
cevizoglufrom your command-line06:13
dr_willis:)06:13
subterrificanyone using ion3?06:13
Rheawala ko kasabot!06:13
dr_willissubterrific,  tried it for like 20 min... :P06:13
dabarRhea: tagalog?06:14
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akin_tocevizoglu... any suggestion where can I find some instructions on how to activate ruby from command line?06:14
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Rheaambot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:15
akin_tohi Rhea06:15
cevizogluakin_to, google for getting started with ruby06:15
hussamanybody's familiar with repairing grub?06:15
Rheahello!!!!!!!!!06:15
cevizogluakin_to, or intro to ruby06:15
dabarhussam, like what?06:15
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flabbyhow does one open a .deb file?06:16
akin_totnx cevizoglu06:16
dabarflabby: where did you get the deb file?06:16
ORiON2012flabby: use dpkg-deb for manipulating them06:17
cevizogluakin_to, you can also ask more specific questions on #ruby and #bash channels06:17
freeman_08Rhea!06:17
Hueydoes anyone know how to configure the quick-back and quick-forward functions on certain touchpad mice? I'd like to move this function to the top of the mousepad instead of the bottom06:17
Hueyso i can use the bottom of the mousepad for horizontal scroll06:17
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krawekhi06:18
dabaryo06:18
thekopemandabar: ok done, now what?06:18
krawekI have a problem with ooffice206:18
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dabarthekopeman: no hit the reload button in synaptic, then search for realplayer06:19
krawek /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/javaldx: error while loading shared libraries: libz.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory06:19
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thekopemandabar: what do u mean by search?06:20
brownie17if i install the g-streamer thing for realplayer, will i be able to veiw the plugin object thingers on websites that use realplayer?06:20
dabarin synaptic, there is a search button. or scroll down the list till you find realplayer, thekopeman06:20
flabbyhow does one install java.  the don't appear in the repo06:21
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ApotheoticsheepHey06:21
SuperQhi06:21
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ORiON2012brownie17: Not sure about realplayer but there is a mozilla plugin for helixplayer to view real media content06:21
dabarhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome under java, flabby.06:21
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ApotheoticsheepInstalled ubuntu a few days ago, was screwing around with the root access and users, and now I am unable to login with my other account06:22
thekopemandabar: nope didnt find it...06:22
ApotheoticsheepIf I had not created another account, what would/should I do?06:22
dabarthekopeman: tell Apotheoticsheep what he should do.06:22
thekopemandabar: ok06:22
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ORiON2012Apotheoticsheep: root it?06:23
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ApotheoticSheepYou must understand, that I am still a newbie to this subject06:23
ApotheoticSheepSo I wont understand 1 word commands06:23
ApotheoticSheep;-)06:23
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ApotheoticSheeproot it == ?!06:23
qt2meh, know any good IDE's for linux?06:23
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dabarthekopeman: oh, so, you can not log in at all?06:23
brownie17ORiON2012, how big is it?06:24
ORiON2012ApotheoticSheep: was joking anyway, if you don't know (remember) the passwords then II think you may be screwed06:24
tristanmikeCan anyone please tell me what is the "getty" process is?06:24
ORiON2012brownie17: I don't know06:24
ApotheoticSheepWell, I'm on another account, in which I "can" log in.06:24
brownie17ORiON2012, ok06:24
dabarthekopeman: please open a terminal, and type in aptitude search realplayer06:24
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qt2ApotheoticSheep: err, use the recovery mode option in the grub menu and correct it?06:24
hussam_dabar: I get disconnected. is the something wrong with irc.freenode.net servers?06:25
cevizogluqt2: imho, the command-line makes the best ide06:25
ApotheoticSheepHmm.. used recovery mode06:25
flabbydoes anybody know what happened to ubuntuguide.org?   It's been offline for a while :(06:25
ApotheoticSheepgave me a command line06:25
ApotheoticSheepWasnt sure what to do with it06:25
dabarApotheoticSheep: and you can not log in with the other account in a terminal?06:25
ApotheoticSheepSo I pressed ctrl-d to get into the login screen06:25
ApotheoticSheepHave not tried06:25
tristanmikeflabby, they're changing servers, will be down a few days06:26
qt2cevizoglu: i'm wierd, i like programs to program in :E06:26
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thekopemanApotheoticsheep: reboot, hit the 'esc key' and choose recovery mode, when the command line comes up type"adduser 'your user name' admin"06:26
brownie17tristanmike, how do you know?06:26
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NiklasH_workhas anyone else got problems with kopete and msn in ubuntu? it crashes on me...06:26
cevizogluqt2: what does that mean?06:26
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ApotheoticSheepNo utmp entry.  You must exec "login" from the lowest level "sh"06:26
tristanmikebrownie17, it was on the forums....06:26
dabarApotheoticSheep: please try that, open a terminal, and type in su otherUser06:26
thekopemanrabar: i got nothing06:26
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brownie17tristanmike, ok06:26
ApotheoticSheepI just typed "login aj" which is my account username.06:27
tristanmikeflabby, you can always try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation06:27
qt2cevizoglu: stuff like kdevelip, anjuta, eclipse...06:27
dabarthekopeman: please paste to the paste web site output of cat /etc/apt/sources.list06:27
ApotheoticSheepYeah, I can login from there06:27
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flabbythanks for the help guys06:27
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dabarApotheoticSheep: ok, well, where can you not log in with aj? through the login screen? what happens?06:28
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dabarwelcome06:28
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ApotheoticSheepThrough the login screen, I get the message my last session lasted for 10 seconds06:28
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cevizogluqt2, after using IDEs for 18 years, I've gotten a lot more done using the command-line and make/vim instead for the last four years06:28
ApotheoticSheepthen gives me an error log and brings me back to the login screen06:29
brownie17they should make winamp for linux06:29
sudonimanyone know what happened to ubuntuguide.org?06:29
ApotheoticSheepsudonim, server went down.06:29
qt2cevizoglu: well, i'm a noob, and i'm not very comfortable with he command line yet.06:29
Agrajagbrownie17: they did with winamp3, it failed miserably06:29
dabaraha. Ok, well, you should say this right away. ok, well, in that terminal, that you are logged in as aj at the moment(atm)  type in sudo rm -r /tmp/*06:29
brownie17sudonim, tristanmike tells me it is down06:29
brownie17sudonim, will be back ina a few days, changing servers06:29
sudonimcool06:30
brownie17Agrajag, what was wrong with it? was it free?06:30
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ApotheoticSheepok... didnt do anything06:30
Agrajagno, it was a piece of garbage06:30
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dabarApotheoticSheep: that last post is for you^06:30
Agrajagwinamp3 was pretty much a complete failure06:30
tristanmikesudonim, in the meantime, why you don't try you luck here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation06:30
ApotheoticSheepI typed it06:30
dabarApotheoticSheep: log out, and log in as aj. it will likely work now.06:30
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cesarinhello06:30
ApotheoticSheepok, holdy06:30
cesarin<-- noob on ubuntu06:30
dabarApotheoticSheep: or just opena  new login, to try.06:30
cesarinjust installed today06:31
sudonimtristanmike: thanks!06:31
thekopemandabar: i pasted it06:31
tristanmikeyup, yup06:31
leopardAnyone got a Samsunf ml-1610 working on Breezy? Stupid "Linux install" CD wants a root account, won't take sudo.06:31
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cesarinfor this big chan, its surely quiet06:32
dr_willisMoo!06:32
cevizoglucesarin, hardly06:32
ORiON2012all IRC chans are quiet for me06:32
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thekopemancesarin: it is in waves....06:32
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cesarinorion: been on some on undernet, and cant say they're quiet :P06:32
dr_willisyou typed /ignore all  again. :P06:32
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tristanmikeCan anyone please tell me what is the "getty" process is and what causes its occurance? :)06:33
tristanmikeI've got 6 going on06:33
brownie17can somebody please help me install realplayer?06:33
cesarin<-- is just a bit worried because his ubuntu device manager shows a bunch of "unknow devices"06:33
cevizoglutristanmike, try "man getty"06:33
ORiON2012cesarin: was just joking, y'know, IRC doesn't actually make noise...06:33
cesarinand still no idea how to install RPM's :P06:33
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tristanmikecevizoglu, reading it, too cryptic06:33
Agrajagtristanmike: hit ctrl+alt+f1 through f6 and you'll see. ctrl+alt+f7 will get you back to X06:33
ApotheoticSheepdabar, no go06:33
^^Maldita^^!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:33
ubotuI haven't a clue, ^^Maldita^^06:33
ApotheoticSheepGave me the same error log06:33
ApotheoticSheepSomthing about unable to create a gnome directory06:34
ApotheoticSheepAnd my (root) file is not listed?06:34
Agrajagtristanmike: it lets you log into a console session06:34
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Psychici'm having some issues06:34
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Psychictrying to install some CPAN modules06:34
cesarinbtw, anyone knows how to make all buttons of  a Micro$oft intellimouse explorer 3 to work?06:34
dabarApotheoticSheep: you need to sudo chmod 777 for the /tmp directory, as aj, so in a terminal, log in as aj, and then sudo chmod 777 /tmp06:34
tristanmikeAgrajag, oh, has it always been there?06:34
brownie17i am having a little bit of trouble installing realplayer. can somebody help me?06:34
cesarinNo idea how to make the button of "back" and " return" to work06:35
dabarthekopeman: add other repos as well. remove the backports one, I told you wrong, sorry, realplayer is in multiverse. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto has insttructions, and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components has related information.06:35
Psychici'm trying to install some CPAN modules that aren't in apt, and it's not really working06:35
Agrajagyes06:35
Psychici keep getting makefile errors06:35
naliothPsychic: have you installed the cpan perl module?06:35
tristanmikeAgrajag, oh, never noticed them all before, sorry for waisting your time.06:35
Psychicuh...06:35
Psychichow would I check?06:36
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naliothPsychic: search synaptic for "cpan"06:36
cesarinthere should be a noob's room for ubuntu for classic stupid questions like mine :P06:36
naliothPsychic: once you get the cpan module installed, it will install any further modules from cpan.org06:36
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ApotheoticSheepok06:37
Strifedoes anyone have much experience with Octave?06:37
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Strifewait06:37
ApotheoticSheepso I typed "sudo chmod 777 /tmp/*"06:37
Strifethis should be in -offtopic...06:37
ApotheoticSheepwait06:37
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ApotheoticSheephold on06:37
snausageswhats the difference between the desktop environment and a window manager06:37
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Jessaany1 teach me how to use cedega06:37
dabarthekopeman: make sure yuo remove the backports, that is crucial. the /etc/apt/sources file has a list of repositories you have enabled. You can even edit that file directly. If you were to do that, you would need to run sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list in a terminal. then you could erase what is there and paste  what is shown here: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 into the file, save, close, and reload in synaptic, then you will be able06:37
Jessafor ubuntu06:37
ApotheoticSheepok nvm good06:37
dabar#cedega?06:37
dabarbrb06:38
ApotheoticSheeptmp chmodded to 77706:38
cesarincls06:38
cesarinanyone know show to force the frecuency of the monitor to 90 Hz in Ubuntu?06:38
Psychiccan I get apt-cache search to tell me whether packages are installed or not?06:38
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ApotheoticSheepdabar?06:38
ApotheoticSheep h06:39
ApotheoticSheep hi06:39
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JessaxD06:39
uklondonexec -o uname -a && uptime &&df -h | egrep "(hda1|hda3|hda5)"06:39
Jessaany1  here using cedega?06:39
vnc_is_sexyLinux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Thu Sep 8 06:18:41 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux06:39
vnc_is_sexy 05:39:36 up 1 day,  3:22,  3 users,  load average: 0.53, 0.47, 0.4506:39
vnc_is_sexy/dev/hda1              18G  2.3G   15G  14% /06:39
ApotheoticSheepJessa, join #cedega06:39
ApotheoticSheep" /j #cedega"06:40
Jessano people answer me06:40
JessaxD06:40
tristanmikevnc_is_sexy, please use pastebin06:40
vnc_is_sexyheh06:40
cevizoglu!tell Jessa about anyone06:40
vnc_is_sexysorry had to test out ..that command06:40
vnc_is_sexy./exec -o uname -a && uptime &&df -h | egrep "(hda1|hda3|hda5)"06:40
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uklondonbut guess you people dont like that  im elaving06:40
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dr_willisweee06:41
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ApotheoticSheepdabar?06:41
dr_willisHmm. dont suppose thers any luck with an ATIx200m mobility/laptop - and flgrx is there?  :P06:41
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ApotheoticSheep DABAR!06:41
PsychicWriting Makefile for Math::Bezier06:41
Psychic    -- NOT OK06:41
haslguitarhello.  does anyone know of a help channel for government?06:41
Psychicwhat does that mean?06:41
dr_willisi guess i can try. i06:41
KanRiNiNHey guys.  I'm testing out the strength of my friend's wireless KEY.  I've found his mac address and am logging packets on his router, but I don't have an IP.  Is there anyway to generate a lot of traffic?  LIke pinging the router w/o an ip?06:41
Psychicduring a cpan -i Math::Bezier06:41
cesarin<-- Is triying to learn how to install RPMS atm :P06:42
haslguitari'm a college student and need some help explaining applicability when it comes to federalism06:42
cafuego_Psychic: Don't use cpan! use 'dh-make-perl'!06:42
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vladuz976in which configuration file is the PATH statement06:42
i0h-why isnt the debian apt-get sources added?06:42
cafuego_cesarin: As in learning to not install them?06:42
Psychiccafuego_: do i need to apt that?06:42
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thekopemandabar: now what?06:42
ApotheoticSheepI have to go now.06:42
cafuego_i0h-: Because you're runnign ubuntu, which is not debian?06:42
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cafuego_Psychic: yes. it's a suite of scripts that converst CPAN archives to .deb files fot you.06:43
dr_willisvladuz976,  you could set it in a per user basis in their .bashrc, or system wide in /etc/profile i think06:43
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Psychicwould you mind telling me WHICH apt package, please?06:43
i0h-cafuego, what if the ubuntu sources can't give me the things i need?06:43
cafuego_dh-make-perl?06:43
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cesarinanyone here uses ATI radeon 9800 pro with ubuntu?06:43
dabarthekopeman: show me your sources.list file again.06:43
dr_williscesarin,  i have in the past.06:43
cafuego_i0h-: Then you enable the corerct repositories. you STILL do not add debian soruces, which will destroy your installation.06:44
cesarindr_willis: by any chance.. can you give me a hand06:44
cafuego_!info dh-make-perl06:44
ubotudh-make-perl: (Create debian packages from perl modules), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 0.12 (hoary), Packaged size: 19 kB, Installed size: 100 kB06:44
thekopemandabar: i used the one u gave me....06:44
i0h-cafuego,  ok06:44
cesarincafuego: you dont got it... I'm a total newbie, and triying to learn TO install some stuff06:44
dr_williscesarin,  all i did was follow the ubuntu guide/wiki - took me 3 min.06:44
cesarinI just fresh installed 2 hours ago06:44
dr_willis!ati06:44
ubotuati is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx06:44
cesarinI think ill give it a look06:44
Jessacan i pm anyone know about ubuntu06:44
cafuego_cesarin: Start Synaptic, pick software, install. Do under NO circumstance install an RPM.06:44
cesarinty ubotu06:44
dr_willisJessa,  huh?06:44
ORiON2012cesarin: the wiki is an excellent resources and has a lengthy article about graphics cards06:45
cesarincafuego: and if the software is not show in the synaptic?06:45
cevizogluJessa, ask your question please06:45
ORiON2012cesarin: you should pay attention to "fglrx" in partticular06:45
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dabarthekopeman: then reload synaptic, and install realplayer06:45
MadpilotJessa: best to ask your question here in channel, it'll get better help...06:45
thekopemankk06:45
cesarink thank you ORiON201206:45
cesarinill give it a look, brb06:45
cafuego_cesarin; Then you fix the repositories. You don't go and intentionally break things.06:45
FurrySaintWow. Popular place. >_>;06:45
Jessai dunno how to install that cedega06:45
Jessaim newbie06:45
dr_willisread the cedega install docs at their homepage yet?06:46
vladuz976dr_willis, i can't find the path statement in .bashrc06:46
cafuego_Jessa: Don't they give you documentation when you buy it?06:46
dr_willisvladuz976,  then make one and set it how ya want.06:46
Jessai want to get it for free06:46
Jessa:P06:46
ORiON2012Jessa: It's not free06:46
cesarincafuego: do I have to restart the OS to install the stuff I chosed to install in the Synapsi thingie?06:46
cafuego_Jessa: This is not a warez channel.06:46
FurrySaintQuestion: How 'newbie friendly' is Ubuntu? Because I know not Linux.06:46
Jessabut if u know to compile they said06:46
dr_willisJessa,   the cvs version is free.. but its worth paying for the official version.06:46
ORiON2012Jessa: do it illegally, or try the cvs, or pay for it06:46
vladuz976dr_willis, well somewhere there must be one. how else is it set then06:46
Jessabut lucky i dunno06:46
cafuego_cesarin: Not normally06:46
cesarinFurrysaint: im total noob here.. so Learning:>06:46
MadpilotFurrySaint: fairly newbie friendly06:47
FurrySaintHeh.06:47
cevizoglu!tell Jessa about cedega06:47
dr_willisvladuz976,  its set in the /etc/profile I think. or some other file in /etc/ use grep and find it.06:47
cesarinI can say the sinap thingie makes it very easy o_O06:47
Psychiccafuego_: what's the syntax? dh-make-perl --install --cpan Some::Module?06:47
cafuego_Psychic: I think so, yes. Lemme check.06:47
cesarinbrb ladies and gentlemen, gotta follow the instructions for running the ATI drivers06:47
dr_willisvladuz976,  OR you could set it in .bashrc or .bash_profile,  or some other places06:47
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Jessathnx06:47
cevizogluJessa, you should read what ubotu sent you06:47
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Jessa^^06:47
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cafuego_Psychic: dh-make-perl --build --cpan Module::Name06:48
cafuego_"dpkg-deb: building package `libmath-bezier-perl' in `../libmath-bezier-perl_0.01-1_all.deb'."06:48
Jessaso using cedega i can install games also programs that are in windows?06:48
cafuego_Psychic: Then simply dpkg -i06:48
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FurrySaintHm. All righty. Thanks.06:49
dr_willisJessa,  SOME games may work..06:49
Jessasome?06:49
Jessabtw06:49
ORiON2012Jessa: cedega is not recommended for general programs, use wine for that06:49
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KilterI have an atheros wifi and I want to set it up to work with a wireless router using wpa psk.  can someone point me to where to start?06:49
Jessaany wine website guide?06:49
Jessa:P06:50
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ORiON2012Jessa: http://www.transgaming.com/searchgame.php06:50
cafuego_google is your friend06:50
ORiON2012Jessa: yo can check if its supported06:50
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dr_willisGoogle is all our friends.06:50
dr_willis"All our base are belong to google"06:50
Jessai hate windows06:50
JessaxD06:50
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Jessamy pc rentals got closed06:50
ORiON2012!tell Jessa about wine06:50
Jessa:P06:50
cesarinOk I think i have my first little problem there06:50
Kilterknowing what to ask google, now that's getting hard06:50
cafuego_!verbose06:50
ubotucafuego_ is too verbose.06:50
OrbordeHow do I verify whether I have the JRE installed?06:51
cafuego_lying bot06:51
dr_willisjava -version06:51
dr_willisperhaps Orborde06:51
OrbordeI installed the free version from the Hoary repos.06:51
cesarinin the synapt thing, I have installed the XORG-driver-fglrx06:51
Psychici don't get it, Jessa are you trying to look cool by insisting you hate windows?06:51
zorba64!wine06:51
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run [some]  windows programs. To install a recent version, go through the tutorial at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29996 ; for more info and apps that work with it, see http://www.winehq.org06:51
cafuego_Orborde: There is no free java06:51
cesarinbut after using the command06:51
cafuego_Orborde: Did you mean the prepackaged sun jre?06:51
cesarinon the wiki06:51
Psychicfree as in beer sure06:51
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cesarinit gives me a " Reading package lists... DONE"06:52
dabarthekopeman: tell me its installed.06:52
KanRiNiNHey, is it possible to use my wireless card to connect to a network, but still use my eth0 as my main net connection?06:52
cesarinthen.. " Building dependency tree... DONE"06:52
cafuego_Beer isn't free ;-)06:52
BROKEN_LADDERi'm sure people ask this all the time, but when is breezy expected?06:52
Orbordecafuego_: Not totally sure. I downloaded the GCJ one. I guess I got the wrong thing?06:52
cafuego_October 13.06:52
brownie17BROKEN_LADDER, october06:52
Kataklsymalright, now whats wrong if i installed flash, macromedia's website shows the test box fine, but a diff site, loads the frame of a box, but nothing inside it?? is it a problem with my flash installation? or is it a problem on the other end??06:52
cesarinthen "E: cannot find the package xorg-driver-fglrx06:52
BROKEN_LADDERbrownie17 you're not the guy who ran fema are you?06:52
dr_williscesarin,  what verison of ubuntu yiou using?06:52
cafuego_Orborde: Oh, the GNU runtime. Your mileage may vary on that, it isn't able to run any of my Java apps :-(06:53
KanRiNiNideas on dual networking, using one as main?  Question listed above.06:53
Jessaany1 tried linspire?06:53
cesarindr_willis: downloaded the latest CD x 64 from ubuntu yesterday06:53
cesarinI supose its the 5.1006:53
Orbordecafuego_: Okay, how do I get the Sun JRE?06:53
cesarinhow do I find the real version?06:53
cafuego_Orborde: If you want a sun one, you'll need to downlaod it from sun.com, then convert it using make-jpkg. (See wiki.ubuntu.com/Java)06:53
brownie17BROKEN_LADDER, what is fema? and no.06:53
dr_williscesarin,  the 64 bit versioon of Warty? 5.10 ya mean?06:53
cesarin5.10 must be06:53
dr_willisno clue if flgrx works under 64bit version  :P06:54
cafuego_!info xorg-driver-fglrx06:54
ubotuxorg-driver-fglrx: (Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators), section restricted/misc, is optional. Version: 6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11 (hoary), Packaged size: 3110 kB, Installed size: 9940 kB06:54
dr_willisI dont bother with 64bit right now.06:54
cafuego_dr_willis: Apaprnetly it does these days. I'm not sure how well, though.06:54
tristanmikebrownie17, fema? you mean "The Federal Emergency Managment Agency?06:54
cesarindr_willis: well ATI as been offering the 64 bit driver since a few06:54
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cesarinand for linux, but not sure if its compatible with ubuntu06:55
cesarinit just says "for linux"06:55
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cesarinthe file is a .run file tought...06:55
dr_williscesarin,  ive learned to not trust ati very far :P lol06:55
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cesarindr_willis: well my ati hasnt failed in the 4 years I've been using it06:55
ToMcAt;p06:55
cesarina 9800 pro from hercules :>06:55
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ORiON2012cafuego, flash needs to burn up in a gas fire06:55
tristanmikedr_willis, I must say I haven't been very impressed with Ati either06:55
BROKEN_LADDERBROKEN_LADDER federal emergency management administration06:55
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BROKEN_LADDERer.. bra1nf00d06:56
BROKEN_LADDERer brownie1706:56
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ToMcAt:p06:56
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cafuego_ORiON2012: And then drawn, quartered, shot and hanged.06:56
tristanmikeBROKEN_LADDER, isnt' it Agency, not Administration?06:56
cesarintristan: but you cant deny some ATI may have 5-10% less performance than Nvidia ones, but they dont eat 5X times the energy and are 2-3X louder :P06:56
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flabbyhow do i fix a broken package vi synaptic?06:56
flabby*via06:56
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cesarin<-- still remembers the beautiful "LAW MOWER" first version of the FX Ultra :P06:56
cafuego_cesarin: There should be an fglrx package in the 'restricted' repository.06:56
BROKEN_LADDERtristanmike whatever06:57
cesarincafuego_,  let me try to find it, give me a minute06:57
BROKEN_LADDERtristanmike point is they failed miserably because of that guy bush called brownie06:57
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tristanmikeBROKEN_LADDER, I'm just curious, and yes, damn brownie06:57
Orbordecafuego_: I'm confused. Hurray.06:57
tristanmike;)06:57
cesarinI dont see any "restricted" in the default root directory of my file system06:58
cesarinshould it be in any "lib" directory?06:58
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cesarinlike "linux-restricted-modules" ?06:58
ToMcAt;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p;p(+b)06:58
cesarinbrb, toilet06:58
thekopemandabar: dabar: the settings are installed, but the program it self is not...06:59
tristanmikewell, that was uncalled for06:59
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thekopemandabar: my question now is, how do i run a .bin file?07:00
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ORiON2012!tell cesarin about repositories07:00
Mag_AFKWhat is the best way to get wine onto ubuntu?07:00
dr_willisapt-get install wine07:00
dr_willis:P07:00
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vladuz976dr_willis, so what do i add to .bashrc to add a dir07:01
cesarinok, gotta find that, thakns orion07:01
dr_willisvladuz976,  bash fundamentals = your path is set by the PATH enviromental variable.07:01
naliothvladuz976: in a terminal type "touch .bashrc" in the directory you want it in07:01
naliothvladuz976: woops07:02
naliothvladuz976: i misread your question07:02
naliothvladuz976: you want to add to your $PATH07:02
dabarthekopeman: just before I tell you that. tell me what aptitude search realplayer in a terminal does.07:02
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cesarinok im on "repositories"07:02
dr_willisbash tutorial --> http://www.start-linux.com/articles/article_69.php07:02
vladuz976nalioth, so how do i add a dir to my path?07:02
Orbordecafuego_: So what is this complicated jpkg dance doing?07:02
cafuego_cesarin: Repository, not directory on filesystem.07:02
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Kataklsymdoes anyone here know why Xine will show my video but no audio in an avi file??07:03
bob2perhaps you didn't tell it to use esd07:03
bob2or you forgot to kill esd07:03
cesarinnow a whole load of files are advailiable07:03
dr_willisKataklsym,  coul;d be it dont have the codec for the format of the audio.07:03
naliothvladuz976: i always drag out the text editor07:03
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cesarincafuego: im already there, got confused at first07:03
thekopemandabar: this is what i get'i     realplayer              - realplayer(installer)'07:03
cafuego_Orborde: the make-jpkg command extracts the .run file and compresses the contents into a .deb, whcih you cna then install and (more importantly) uninstall via the normal package system. No unmanaged files running loose :-)07:03
Magilladr_willis: E: Package wine has no installation candidate07:03
Orbordecafuego_: Ah. Genius!07:04
dr_willisMagilla,  check the ubuntu wiki/forume. and perhaps add a repo that has the package07:04
cafuego_Aye.07:04
vladuz976nalioth, yeah but i don't know what file to open and what to edit07:04
Kataklsymdr_willis: where do i get the codecs for it?  when i installed xine on my other dist it worked out of the box, so i need to know what to do for this one :s07:04
dr_willisKataklsym,  same video file?07:04
cesarincafuego_, theres a whole load of "updates" and other "origins"07:04
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dabarthekopeman: .bin files are executable files. however, before you run an executable file, you have to give it executable permissions. in a terminal, you would chmod +x file.bin. in nautilus(the file manage window) you would right click on the file, and select properties. then, you go to permissions tab, and check off executable by owner. THen double click the file, or in a terminal, ./file.bin and enter.07:04
cevizogluhow do I add gvim to my gnome menu?07:05
dabarthekopeman: however, realplayer is now installed.07:05
ORiON2012vladuz976: PATH=$PATH:/dir/you/want/to/add07:05
dr_willisyea - dont run a .bin by double clicking.07:05
bob2Kataklsym: pkill esd, try again07:05
dabarthekopeman: are you trying to view online movies in a browser?07:05
naliothvladuz976: open a new terminal, and type "gedit .bashrc"07:05
xuniluserHELP: how do i mount a drive with "OnTrackDM6" filesystem ID?07:05
ORiON2012vladuz976: add a :. to the end of that07:05
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Orbordecafuego_: Thanks a bunch.07:05
bob2xuniluser: is it some broken-arse promise raid file system?07:05
Kataklsymyea same video file worked in rhel with xine, but now i installed xine in ubuntu, and i get a prompt saying unsupported codec mpeg 2/3 continue anyway, i choose yes and it plays the video, but no sound07:05
cafuego_xuniluser: My first guess would be "not".07:05
dr_willisegads - adding the current dir to your path. :P ick. Lol.07:05
thekopemanno, try to play mp3's07:05
cesarinok cafuego_ : now what do I do  now?07:05
cafuego_cesarin: Did you install the restricted modules and fglrx?07:06
Kataklsymmp3s play fine in xmms07:06
xunilusercafuego: but my personal files are located there.... i just removed my windoze....07:06
cesarinno, let me see if I can find them07:06
xuniluserbob2: no idea....07:06
cafuego_xuniluser: Was it raid?07:06
vladuz976nalioth, so what ORiON2012 just said goes at the bottom of .bashrc ? don't i need "export" in there?07:06
bob2xuniluser: you don't know where the disk came from?07:06
xunilusercafuego: when this box was delivered it was already partinioned07:06
xuniluserbob2: it was already partitioned when it came here07:07
cafuego_xuniluser: What sort of disk controller does 'psic' say you have?07:07
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cafuego_xuniluser: um, 'lspci'07:07
naliothvladuz976: yes, the paths in your PATH line are seperated by :07:07
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thekopemandabar: im lost07:07
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cesarinok, updating sources of the package gestor synaptic07:07
cesarincafuego_, I supose I have to enable all sources?07:07
naliothvladuz976: so at the end of the PATH line that is there, put a :/new/path/for/vladuuz97607:07
bob2xuniluser: and they gave you no information about what it was or where it came from?07:07
dr_willispath example ---->  http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal#N104F307:08
dabarthekopeman: why are you getting realplayer?07:08
vladuz976nalioth, oh ok, i'll try that then07:08
cafuego_cesarin: That would help, yes.07:08
xunilusercafuego_: how can i know that info? what command will i envoke?07:08
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thekopemandabar: to play songs that i have on another computer...07:08
xuniluserbob2: none... but my hd is seagate07:08
cafuego_xuniluser: 'lspci'07:08
cesarinok im done07:08
cesarinall enabled07:08
dabarthekopeman: what file format are they in? .what?07:08
Kataklsymno one knows why xine isnt playing my audio for an avi?  if its codecs, where do i get those??07:08
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bob2Kataklsym: did you do what I said or not?07:08
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thekopemandabar: .mp307:08
cafuego_xuniluser: bob2 suspects WIndows was using some proprietary software raid system.07:09
Kataklsymbob2: yes i did07:09
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cesarinok, this thing now told me there are new patches advailiable07:09
cesarinand im now installing them07:09
dabarthekopeman: dont use realplayer in linux for that. ask ubotu about mp307:09
cesarinholy shit!!!!1, 322 files to download @ 112 KB/s07:09
xunilusercafuego_: IDE Interface : Intel Corp. 82801AA07:09
cafuego_xuniluser: In which case your only hope is to reinstall Windows, backup the files, then wipe WIndows.07:09
cesarin34m to download :P07:09
cafuego_cesarin: You on breezy or something?07:09
xunilusercafuego_: ok thanks.... i'll try07:10
xuniluserbob2: thanks07:10
cesarincafuego_, : like I said, I downloaded the latest CD x64 version from ubuntu's site yesterday07:10
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cafuego_xuniluser: make SURE to not have windows reformat the disk when installing!07:10
cesarinnot sure wich version was it x_X07:10
dr_willisKataklsym,  the erroe message sort of said you needed a codec.. now WHAT codec is the issue.07:10
cafuego_cesarin: yeah, breezy gets a new version of X every day.07:10
xuniluserbob2: is there other programs like mount that can do the job?07:10
xunilusercafuego_: ok07:10
cesarincafuego_, : then downloading a new "X" may be not at all good?07:11
flabbywhen is breezy coming out?07:11
jbroome10/13ish07:11
cafuego_cesarin: Well, the new one would ideally contain less bug then the old one.07:11
cesarindamn, that means I installed a beta version of ubuntu? :P07:11
dr_willisgive or take 100 years. :P07:11
thekopemandabar: i asked, does it take awhile to answer?07:11
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cafuego_cesarin: Yes, the website does quite clearly state that :-P07:11
dr_willisim using warty right now. ;P07:11
dr_williscesarin,  release canadate/ :P07:11
cesarincafuego_, : not in the 64 version if I remember correctly07:11
cesarinit didnt said RC-1 in the x64 version x_X07:12
cafuego_cesarin: Yes it does, when you go to download the ISO.07:12
cesarinwell who cares, its already done :P07:12
dr_willisit said  Breezy = everyone knows that breezy is  that way :P07:12
cesarindr_willis: not everyone... ;)07:12
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cesarinI bet 100% of noobs dont know what "BREEZY" even is :P07:12
Kataklsymdr_willis: it says mpeg layer 2/3,  i just installed avi-mad-plugin and libavifile, still no sound in xine07:13
dr_willisnext will be Grilbeling Gariaffs07:13
Kiltermy wireless will get an address if my lan is plugged in, but not when I unplug it.  thoughts?07:13
jbroomei had tortilla soup for dinner.  i am indeed breezy07:13
cesarinthey must think its a new weirdo on the "the unrreal life" of MTV07:13
thekopemanwhat is a good program to play mp3's?07:13
cesarinor what was the name? :o07:13
ORiON2012jbroome: hehe07:13
dr_willisMamboing Moles.07:13
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dr_williswell nuight all07:13
cesaringods kids, dont blame tortillas07:13
cesarin<-- is Mexican07:13
cesarinDr_Willis went to stalk that gal of "SIN CITY", I presume? :P07:14
xuniluserHey! Anyone using SmartPhone? how do you connect it with Linux?07:14
xuniluserCan multisync do that?07:14
jbroomexuniluser: pocketpc or palmos?07:14
ompbreezy is still quite buggy =X07:15
xuniluserjbroome: smartphone.... it's like pocketpc because they're both from Micro$oft07:15
[Chameleon] xuniluser: multisync is pretty basic.07:15
dabarthekopeman: make sure you are registered. /msg nickserv help register07:15
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xuniluser[Chameleon] : what do you suggest?07:15
[Chameleon] xuniluser: the pa1mOne Treo series are also considered smartphones and do not run Windows.07:15
dabarthekopeman: I am off now, good luck.07:16
[Chameleon] xuniluser: I don't know anything about PocketPCs with Linux.07:16
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xuniluser[Chameleon] : But the name of the OS is SmartPhone 2003/200407:16
[Chameleon] xuniluser: marketing mojo07:16
[Chameleon] xuniluser: that's just M$ doing their "Embrace & Extend" move.07:17
jbroomei haven't researched pocketpc and linux interaction.  seems like it would be painful07:17
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xuniluser[Chameleon] : whatever,,,, but can these link with Linux?07:17
vladuz976anybody know what IPC is?07:17
[Chameleon] to try and capture the market with mind-share.07:17
thekopemandabar: bye and thank you07:17
[Chameleon] xuniluser: hell if I know. Frankly I don't care. sorry.07:17
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cesarinbtw  guys, anyone knows how to enable the extra buttons of a microsoft intellimouse explorer 3?07:17
xuniluser[Chameleon] : np07:17
cycomany thougts as to why my wireless interface would struggle for an identity? It can't decide whether or not it's eth0 or eth1, and my wired is either eth2 or eth007:17
cesarinoops, sorry for bold x_X07:17
cycomI got disconnected before I got an answer07:17
cycomstupid cable maintinence07:18
xuniluserAnyone experienced linking PocketPC cellphones with Linux?07:18
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concept10Raise your hand if you have updated to breezy succesfully07:18
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cesarin167 of 322 x_X07:18
[Chameleon] concept10: I'm running breezy. I backed up my /home and installed fresh. Works great.07:18
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ORiON2012Magilla: share the wealth07:19
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cesarindont even dare.. :O07:19
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nimakinemoido07:19
cesarinORiON2012,  not  many $$$ sadly :P07:19
concept10[Chameleon] : did you install it over Hoary ? (dist-upgrade)07:19
MagillaORiON2012: he keeps saying "insufficiant funds"07:19
ORiON2012cheapskate :P07:20
cesarinI supose not many here knows about the intellimouse series07:20
Magillalol07:20
cesarinORiON2012, : I dont trust in banks ;)07:20
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ORiON2012nope, only fancy features I have is a scroll wheel07:20
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thekopemananyone know what programs i can play mp3's on?07:20
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cesarinthepokeman I know07:20
cesaringo buy an iPOD :P07:20
narkcehhello.  could someone tell address where is help to install java?07:20
ORiON2012thekopeman: any that play mp3s?07:21
esacinside breezy ! is there a discussion channel ?07:21
tristanmikecesarin, down with banks07:21
[Chameleon] concept10: no, that's what I'm saying. It's best if you don't upgrade, at least not until it's final. I learned that long ago with Red Hat.07:21
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[Chameleon] concept10: a very smart thing to do is to make a separate /home partition... That way you can always nuke your OS and keep your user data.07:21
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cesarin[Chameleon] , Im suffering that :P07:21
ORiON2012thekopeman: Rhythmbox is the default music player, you can use xmms, beep media player, amarok, juk, the list goes on and on07:21
cesarin201 out of 322, yay!07:22
ORiON2012thekopeman: muine is cool07:22
thekopemanorion2012: fine, a good/great mp3 player, jackass07:22
ian_can rhythmbox edit ID3 tags yet?07:22
ORiON2012ian_ in beezy yeah07:22
Madpilotthekopeman: when you install the right codecs, nearly anything in Ubuntu can play mp3 for you07:22
cesarinwow thepokeman as issues07:22
esacwhen installing breezy during the first "boot" during installation, i got a FAILURE with t_kernel_font. anybody else see this? how can i provide more info ?07:22
ORiON2012thekopeman: it's a matter of preference07:23
cesarinesac, : got the same too, but it did install properly I supose07:23
zorba64!java07:23
ubotuTo install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java or, for Sun's Java, ask me about !sunjava07:23
ORiON2012thekopeman: like asking what good food is07:23
Burgundaviaesac, likely a badly burned disc07:23
concept10[Chameleon] : I know what you mean with /home, I always do that myself... I just want to know if there is a breezy install disk or did you use dist-upgrade07:23
cesarin!sunjava07:23
ubotuFor Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)07:23
ian_ORiON2012: hey! not all of us can afford the steep upgrade price!07:23
zorba64!sunjava07:23
esacBurgundavia, that is possible, the CD i burned it to was badly scratched07:23
thekopemanorion2012: ok, fine, how do i install codecs?07:24
jbroome!codecs07:24
ubotuhmm... codecs is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats07:24
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ORiON2012I love that bot07:24
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jbroomeORiON2012: me too.  and the dpkg bot on #debian07:25
cesarinits mine... my .. precious...07:25
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cesarinbtw.. does doom 3 run way faster on ubuntu than in micro$oft Winblow$ ?07:25
thekopemani fuckin hate that stupid bot07:25
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cafuego_dpkg and ubotu are twins ;-)07:25
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jbroomeaww07:25
cesarinthepokeman as issues, I repeat07:25
[Chameleon] concept10: I downloaded a nightly CD ISO.07:25
[Chameleon] concept10: you can find it with google.07:25
cafuego_cesarin: nah, they run as fast as the gfx card can handle... which is identical if you have an nvidia card.07:26
Somada141is there a similar channel like this for other Lonux distributions?07:26
ORiON2012cesarin: not really, at least from my experience, seems about the same, but I haven't benchmarked anything07:26
cafuego_Somada141: For some, yes.07:26
Somada141is there one for mandriva07:26
Somada141?07:26
esacis epiphany in any way better than firefox ?07:26
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bluefoxicy<Bluefox> stat /07:26
bluefoxicy<@kitty>   File: `/'07:26
cafuego_No idea, their website should mention it if they have one.07:26
bluefoxicy<@kitty> Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x)  Uid: (  110/  hpojlp)   Gid: (    7/      lp)07:26
otiemorning07:26
cesarincafuego_, : like I said, I got an ATI :P07:26
Somada141ok i'll look into that07:26
jbroomeSomada141: shockingly called #mandriva07:27
bluefoxicy. . . his / is owned by hpojlp:lp  o_O wtf07:27
cafuego_cesarin: The Linux will be half as fast probably.07:27
bluefoxicymine is root:root07:27
cesarinwondering, is there a way to install counter strike into Ubuntu?07:27
ORiON2012esac: it has tab grouping which is cool, but no real search bar, which isn't07:27
cesarinI mean if they did with doom3...07:27
cesarincafuego_, : you're serious? o_O07:27
cesarinor you just being a fanboy of nvidia? :P07:27
cafuego_cesarin: yes, fglrx is a fairly crap product, as drivers go.07:27
ORiON2012cesarin: CS:S works with Cedega07:27
otieI've got a n00bish question; I've just installed Ubuntu and I'm in Gnome, but I can't set the screen resolution (the only option is 600x480)07:27
thekopemancesarin: u dont have to be a jackass07:27
ORiON2012cesarin: doesn't run natively though07:27
cesarinI supose cedega is a windows emulator? :P07:28
cafuego_cesarin: No, not a fanboy. just did my research BEFORE I bought the hardware, seeing as I wanted to run Linux only.07:28
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cesarinthepokeman: im not the one whos bitching about everything you know :P07:28
ORiON2012cesarin: Cedega people hate when you call it an emulator, but it is of sorts, yes07:28
Somada141jbroome : in which server?07:28
jbroomethis one07:28
jbroomefreenode07:28
cesarinic...07:28
cesarinbut I supose its not very stable?07:28
Somada141ok07:28
bluefoxicyhummmmmmmm07:29
cafuego_Mind you, back then ati had NO 64bit drivers, so the choice was fairly easy anyway.07:29
bluefoxicykitty misplaced a chown command07:29
esaci have a synaptics touchpad on my laptop, i noticed that it is ALOT more sensitive to clicking. has anybody else seen this ?07:29
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bluefoxicydoes anyone know how to correct file ownership?07:29
ORiON2012cesarin: for the games it officially supports, it works great, Steam is one of them07:29
bluefoxicyfor installed files like / /etc /lib etc07:29
thekopemancesarin: well excuse me, if my preferance is windowsxp, and i haven't got used to the new system yet....07:29
cesarincafuego_, : using 64 bit ubuntu too?07:29
cafuego_cesarin: Yes07:29
narkcehthank you07:29
cesarinthepokeman: Im atm on ubuntu, but I come from windows XP07:29
cesarinso.. :P07:29
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cafuego_bluefoxicy: I believe there's a tool that does the chanking against a file...07:30
cafuego_deFrysk probably knows07:30
Kataklsymi installed all kinds of mpeg support and avi support from the repos, xine still wont play this avi file, and i know it works, cuz i watched it in my rhel install several times..  i get an error says unsupported codec mpeg layer 2/3.   i installed mpeg and avi support, i dont get whats up with it07:30
otiechmod?07:30
cesarinORiON2012, : I might try to get that one, and maybe play CS source in ubuntu07:30
bluefoxicycafuego:  might be a good idea to make a baseline security tool07:30
deFryskmorning cafuego07:30
cesarinKataklsym, remember there are some very stinky codecs07:30
bluefoxicycafuego: that does that and a few other things07:30
cesarinlike they claim to be hable to reproduce all "XVID and DIVX"07:30
deFryskcafuego, know what ?07:30
cesarinbut they do horribly07:30
cafuego_Then again, maybe not, maybe I'm thinking of openbsd.07:30
cesarinI've had some packages of codecs that said to run everything, I had to uninstall them and install better files07:31
cafuego_deFrysk: Tool that checks permissions of files against the value stored in the package file.07:31
Kataklsymcesarin: but xine says that that it cant find the codec to something that it should play.. what do i do now?07:31
deFryskcafuego, no clue07:31
cesarinkatak: maybe you need a diferent file07:31
cesarinwich detects the codec07:32
cesarinlike GSPOT for windows07:32
cesarinnot sure if theres something similar for ubuntu07:32
deFryskcafuego, never a clue at this hour anyway ;p07:32
cesarinbut that program works fine to detect the codecs07:32
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garychey fellow ubuntus - cd burner cyberdrive cw068d wont burn cds  - any ideas??07:32
Kataklsymwell its saying mpeg layer 2/307:32
deFryskcheers :)07:32
LickerAnyone know what this means?  >>  W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)07:32
garycused Naulilus - K3b - Gnomebaker - cd never burns07:32
ferdiKatakllysm, install all format...best way07:32
cesarinand micro$oft winblow$'s "media center" had same problems triying to find certain codects too :P07:32
yahalomhey guys. my xserver crashed. cannot find core devices. can someone help me pls?07:32
Kataklsymbut i can listen to mp3, i can view the video, but i can hear the sound in the avi, i can see the movie fine, but no sound07:33
yahalomit worked great till this morning07:33
thekopemancesarin: but let me guess that ur some 40yr old guy still living with his parents, and i happen to be a 16yr old kid, and by all standards is a windows xp geek...07:33
cesarinthepokeman: Dont get it personally, but im not even 1/2 that age :P07:33
cesarinso stop pointing others and if you dont like ubuntu or dont want to learn, then I have no clue what are you doing here..07:33
deFryskgeek with closed source ? how does one do that ?07:33
yahalomanyone?07:33
cesarinand pokeman, you sure show your age.. ;)07:34
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ferdigoto /www.ubuntulinux/wiki/RestrictedFormats....steps for all formats are there07:34
cesarin271 out of 322, these are a bit heavier than the first ones :O07:34
ORiON2012Kataklsym: libmad? not sure what xine uses07:34
Hueydoes anyone have any experience with the linksys pcmcia->pci adapter?07:34
cafuego_cesarin: Most kids here show their age.07:34
Hueylspci shows the adapter exists, but not what i have plugged in07:34
thekopemancesarin: well, i probly do, but after football, and school, and work, i dont think you have room to talk07:34
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bluefoxicyi'm smarter than most kids here.07:34
cesarinwell they need to learn the amazing skill of BEING PATIENT07:35
ferdinot doing that is even heavier for newer ones07:35
deFryskmine is 4507:35
jbroomecesarin: how do i do that?07:35
garyccd burner cyberdrive cw068d wont burn cds - used Naulilus - K3b - Gnomebaker - cd never burns07:35
deFryskand it shows!07:35
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Kataklsymhmm i didnt try running xine from terminal and looking at the output07:35
cesarinthepokeman: well sadly, you're only talking atm, so thats plenty of time :P07:35
jbroomehuh?  how do I be patient?  :)07:35
Kataklsymthat might help07:35
cesarinjbroome, : do what? o_O07:35
cafuego_cesarin: Yeah, that normally happens after turning 30, when you realise it all doesn't matter.07:35
cesarinjbroome, well, you have to .. hmm... like...07:35
bluefoxicycesarin:  Patience is for idiots who have time to stand around and pick their nose; businessmen need you to meet your deadlines 5 weeks before they're posted!07:35
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cesarinf*ck, just come to Mexico :P07:35
jbroomecesarin: how? how? how?07:35
garycyahalom did you restart the xserver deamon07:35
cesarinliving with horrible bank services ,helps a lot :P07:36
cesarinohh, and governament full of burocracy too :P07:36
Kataklsymnope it didnt help any at all07:36
bluefoxicycesarin:  I love deadlines07:36
cafuego_cesarin: I would, but that would imply flying via the US, which I won't do.07:36
bluefoxicycesarin: Especially the sound they make whooshing b y.07:36
yahalomgaryc: i reconfigured it even07:36
cesarinbluefoxicy, : you're making me horny dear..07:36
cesarinjk lol07:36
brownie17bitch07:36
garycyagalom - if you can't restart xserver you may have to just restart the system07:36
yahalomgaryc: i did that07:36
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thekopemancesarian: ok, im better now, getting pissed off is a great way to go to sleep, so later bitch07:37
garycyahalom you reconfiged - maybe that caused it07:37
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DemantikMy brothers pc using ubuntu64, cpu spikes....????07:37
yahalomgaryc: nope. it crashed before. it crashed after last nights upate07:37
cesarindamn, I think I will go search if theres someone who can help me with the mouse thing.. since its slow to move mouse to click "back" button over and over :P07:37
cesarinwell Im a winner!! :P07:37
cesarinthe kid got pissed by just facts :P07:38
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Dalikfirefox 1.0.7 was just released, and I have 1.0.6  I have installed, and I want it now, should I uninstall through apt-get then install from source or will that mess with the deb package system later on?07:38
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garycyahalom can you revert back to the previous version07:38
cesarin1.0.7 out?? jesus.. I have to patch my winblose version too o_O07:38
Demantikanybody ?07:38
yahalomgaryc: to hoary? i'm on breezy.07:38
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yahalomgaryc: or u mean the previous config?07:38
cesarinbrrr, the breeze is amazing.. lots of ppl with breezy lately :P07:38
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garycyahalom no just the xserver package back to the version before the budate07:39
garycthat's update07:39
jbroomei'm running the 1.5 beta and it's been fine07:40
cesarincafuego_, : I supose after installing the ATI driver for Ubuntu, I will be hable to change the frecuency of my monitor?07:40
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cesarinbecause It hurts to have it @ 60 Hz x_X07:40
cafuego_cesarin: No idea, never used fglrx.07:40
cesarindamn, Its "locked" to 60 Hz atm..07:40
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cafuego_Dalik: Have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall07:40
garychey ????????  cd burner cyberdrive cw068d wont burn cds - used Naulilus - K3b - Gnomebaker - cd never burns07:40
phrizer60hz makes your eyes bleed :(07:40
garycany ideas07:41
cesarinphrizer: yeah, in my winbloze I use it at 90 hz07:41
garyccd burner cyberdrive cw068d wont burn cds - used Naulilus - K3b - Gnomebaker - cd never burns07:41
deFryskcesarin, make sure the monitor horizontal and vertical freq's are correct in xorg.conf , then it should be possible07:41
phrizercesarin, look in your xorg conf?07:41
cesarinhow to edit that xorg.conf?07:41
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cesarinremember im a total noob in UBuntu07:41
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garycphrizer  I'm using 85 hz and my eyes are still bleeding07:42
deFrysktoo early for mee , my eyes are still tearing and its not (yet) from what I see here07:42
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cesarinnalioth: you fail :P07:43
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deFryskon 1400x105007:43
tgago for a neuronal implant, optics are so last century07:43
cesarinwell, anyone help me to edit the freq on the conf?07:43
garyccd burner cyberdrive cw068d wont burn cds  -  used Naulilus - K3b - Gnomebaker - cd never burns07:43
naliothcesarin: have you been to the wiki?07:43
phrizergaryc, heh heh07:43
kathyalgie habla espaol?07:43
nalioth!es07:43
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:43
deFryskcesarin, first look in xorg.conf if it recognized your monitor07:44
cesaringary: no idea, im using Plextor one07:44
cesarinand where is that? :P07:44
cesariny yo hablo espa....07:44
cesarinnevermind..07:44
deFryskcesarin, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:44
nalioth!tell cesarin about resolution07:44
deFryskcesarin, do what ubuntu send you (even better)07:44
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deFryskubotu that is07:45
ubotudeFrysk: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!07:45
garyccesarin  do you have gnome desktop07:45
cesarinyes I do garyc07:45
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cesarinand ty nalioth07:45
garyccesarin  do system - preferences - screen resolution07:45
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cesarinok thanks, will check it in a few07:46
cesarinand I did there but the 60Hz is locked07:46
cesarinsame as resolution07:46
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xwacker1hi everyone07:46
cesarin<-- installing patches07:46
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garyccesarin  your monitor or screen may only support that res.07:47
xwacker1do somebody help me intalling a fileserver?07:47
cesaringary: nope07:47
cesarinits a G75+07:47
poningruhow do I watch .tiff files?07:47
cesarinsupports 120 Hz @ 800 x 60007:47
poningruerr see07:47
cesarin90 Hz @ 1024  x 72407:47
esacwhere is bob2, he is always so helpful ! :)07:47
cesarinand up to 1600 x 1200 if im right07:47
garyccesarin  I use 1024x768 85 hz  -  it it smooth07:48
naliothponingru: tiff is a picture, not a video07:48
poningruright07:48
cesaringary: like I said, the 60 Hz is locked07:48
cesarinand I want to change it manually07:48
garyccesatin thats it is smooth07:48
poningruhow can you see it in firefox?07:48
poningruI need a plugin07:49
naliothponingru: if you have libtiff installed, i would think most viewers would see it07:49
poningrunalioth: right but firefox is for some reason not using it07:49
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naliothponingru: my opinion is: ff is good for nothing07:50
cesarinok installed all patches07:50
poningruI am going to post the link in #offtopic, can you help me extract the image from the embed?07:50
cesaringonna use the options07:50
garyccesarin is your default box checked.  If so try unchecking it.07:51
akin_tohello question command for executing ruby07:51
cesarinnope, its not cheked07:51
garyccesarin  i don't know??07:52
cutiegurlis rpm work with ubuntu?07:52
cutiegurl.rpm?07:52
ferdido this dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg07:52
cutiegurlme?07:52
garyccd burner cyberdrive cw068d wont burn cds - used Naulilus - K3b - Gnomebaker - cd never burns07:53
garycanybody07:53
Demantikanybody know why cpu usage spikes on ubuntu 64 ?07:53
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garyccd burner cyberdrive cw068d wont burn cds  -  used Naulilus - K3b - Gnomebaker - cd never burns07:54
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ORiON2012Kataklsym: glad you got it working07:54
garycanybody07:54
ORiON2012Kataklsym: how's that for a delayed response?07:54
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garycwhat's the best ftp server for ubuntu????????07:55
garycwhat's the best ftp server for ubuntu????????07:55
ORiON2012garyc: the best? don't know, but ProFTPD is very good07:55
Kataklsymlol07:56
dbl_why is i can log in to the destop?07:56
garycORiON2012 Is it in the synaptic manager07:56
Kataklsymthanks ORiON201207:56
ORiON2012garyc: yes07:56
dabarcutiegurl: they can work, yes. Howver, you should install things through the synaptic package manager. What rpm are you looking at?07:56
esacdoes anybody know how to modify the synaptics touch pad sensitivity ? it works fine in windows but in linux its always "seeing" clicks when i just move the mouse around (its not focus follows mouse)07:57
garycORiON2012 Thanks I'll give it a try07:57
ORiON2012garyc: easy to setup too, see /etc/proftpd.conf07:57
ORiON2012garyc: and http://www.proftpd.org/07:57
GhostFreemanhey backports people07:58
dbl_my computer stop in dos and asking for login and password then when i input it will becom like this "dantoy@Station12:$07:58
GhostFreemanNew Firefox is out, get to it07:58
garycORiON2012 I take it the conf file has explain comments and all?????07:58
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ORiON2012garyc: yes, for simple setups all the info you need is commented in the conf07:58
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Demantikanybody know why cpu usage spikes on ubuntu 64 ?07:59
esacGhostFreeman: i've heard the backports people are hardly around07:59
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garycORiON2012 will goto the site proftpd.org07:59
GhostFreemanwell I guess that answered my own question07:59
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garycORiON2012 any idea why my cd burner wont burn08:00
ORiON2012Demantik: spikes? is it a certain process?08:00
Kataklsymdamn, i wish someone woulda told me what i was missing out on when i was using RHEL08:00
garycORiON2012 cd burner cyberdrive cw068d wont burn cds  -  used Naulilus - K3b - Gnomebaker - cd never burns08:00
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Kataklsymubuntu rocks!08:00
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ORiON2012garyc: no, I'd need a specific error to help08:00
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GhostFreemanyeah, Gentoo is awesome08:00
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GhostFreemanwait...where did that come from08:00
ORiON2012GhostFreeman: lol08:00
DemantikORiON2012 - nope...the mouse even moves slow because of it...it goes fine, then u open a program like firefox...whilst its loading, the whole pc runs very slowly..but once the prog is open, it generally goes fine.08:00
bmecoli-hey what was that script that mounted FAT drives?08:01
bmecoli-I forget08:01
cesarinfux im completely lost08:01
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ferdiwhy script? edit /etc/fstab08:01
ORiON2012Demantik: in a term you can run "top" and it will by default) list running processes sorted by their CPU usage08:01
garycORiON2012 doesn't give an error.  it makes the image and goes off to do the burn - the light never comes on and it never comes back08:01
ompGhostFreeman: lol08:01
benplautnybble: please turn of the away/back script08:01
ompGhostFreeman: the truth is, it is awesome :)08:01
nybblealready did08:01
nybbleit wasnt on an hour ago08:02
garycORiON2012 I have to force quit the app08:02
bmecoli-ferdi, I'm not leet anough?08:02
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naliothnybble: not in here please08:02
tristanmikeWhy is it when I run the "uptime" command in the terminal it says there are 2 users, could someone please explain why this is?08:02
ORiON2012garyc: not sure then08:02
naliothtristanmike: there are many users on your linux box08:02
DemantikORiON2012 - yeah, if u just sit on the desktop doing nothing, cpu usage is fine...but any program u run it seems, the cpu usage goes up to like 99% while its loading and everything goes slow for a while, and then corrects itself.08:02
GhostFreemanrunning ssh?08:02
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naliothtristanmike: many automated users, one human08:02
GhostFreemanit does that if someone is hooked up on ssh08:02
garycORiON2012 me neither08:02
bmecoli-ferdi, point me to a tutorial and I would be glas to08:02
tristanmikenalioth, ok, what's an automated user?08:03
naliothtristanmike: if you have clamav installed and run the clamd, it's a user08:03
GhostFreemanif you were being hacked, you would notice your entire filesystem *dissapearing*08:03
ORiON2012Demantik: that's certainly not normal behavior, but I have no idea08:03
dabarnalioth: it's not during the uptime, there were x users?08:03
garycORiON2012 worked fine under windows just before I dumped it and put ubuntu08:03
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dabaroh, no its not.08:03
DemantikORiON2012 - Yeah..i havent been able to find any reason for it :(08:03
ORiON2012GhostFreeman: thought the point was to NOT be detected08:03
naliothtristanmike: it's quite common to have multiple "users" shown (they are system daemons)08:03
dabartristanmike: type in w in a terminal for the real answer.08:04
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GhostFreemanand? I can't control my system from my powerbook downstairs?08:04
GhostFreemanyou people aren't fun :(08:04
tristanmikenalioth, do you know how I can check what the 2 "users" are?08:04
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dabartristanmike: ^08:04
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naliothtristanmike: i'm not that advanced, sorry. i just know it's common08:04
esacusing breezy, don't see amaroK in synaptic, any ideas how to add it ?08:05
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dabartristanmike: and I told you above.08:05
tristanmikenalioth, that's ok, thanks very much08:05
naliothtristanmike: on my box right now i show 17 users in my uptime output08:05
dabarnalioth: try w shows all users.08:05
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tristanmikedabar, your crazy :s08:05
dabareven who08:05
esacn/m .. add/remove programs has it08:05
naliothdabar: w where? in what?08:05
tristanmikenalioth, in the terminal08:06
dabarwho|w are the two commands that show who is logged in. in the terminal, off course.08:06
naliothw08:06
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naliothwow 17 of me08:06
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ORiON2012dabar: users too :)08:06
mojois it hard to set up internet connection sharing with ubuntu?  (i have 5.04 plus backports)08:07
tristanmikebut what does this mean? If, lets say, my system were comprimised, wouldn't that be me anyway?08:07
poningruguys if I wget some image where will that be downloaded to?08:07
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bmecoli-damnit I can't edit fstab right for fucks sake will someone please help me and post the location of the script ;/08:07
ORiON2012poningru: your current directory unless otherwise specified08:08
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ORiON2012poningru: "man wget" for more info08:08
bmecoli-!fstab08:08
ubotubmecoli-: Bugger all, i dunno08:08
landotterponingru: to your home directory in a new terminal.08:08
bmecoli-damnit08:08
dabarMojo: depends on your network setup. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/hardware/InternetConectionSharing?highlight=%28connection%29%7C%28sharing%29 to start08:08
bmecoli-it's !something!08:08
bmecoli-aagh!08:08
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tristanmikebmecoli-, i think /etc/fstab is what your looking for?08:08
tristanmikebmecoli-, and watch the language please :)08:09
bmecoli-tristanmike, no there's a ubuntu script that will do it for you08:09
Kataklsymwhere do i change to enlightenment once i have it installed? i installed it, now how do i switch to that wm?08:09
tristanmikebmecoli-, oh, sorry08:09
ORiON2012Kataklsym: your login manager should have a "session" type button to select it08:09
Kataklsymok08:10
ORiON2012Kataklsym: *session manager08:10
Kataklsymno way to change on the fly?08:10
bmecoli-!ntfs08:10
macintoshranyone had fun with the new breezy update?08:10
TokenBadanyone know why apt-get will not install something and why it gives the error it gives?08:10
bmecoli-yes that worked!08:10
dabarMojo, actually, to start, remove backports, comment them out, and then update your package list. then install dnsmasq and ipmasq08:10
ORiON2012Kataklsym: sure you can run it in GNOME, would probably look pretty silly08:10
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ferdiTokenBad edit and open the /etc/apt/sources.list08:11
ORiON2012Kataklsym: in the same sense that you can run something like gnome-panel in E08:11
cesarinok guys, I have modified my Xorg.conf..08:11
cesarindo I have to restart my os?08:11
TokenBadferdi, its finding the package08:11
TokenBadbut its erroring out on the package installed08:11
tristanmikebmecoli-, it just struck me, I remember what you're looking for, I think... http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab08:11
ekimuscesarin: no just logout so you get back to gdm hit ctrl+alt+backspace, and you're done (that just restarts the x server)08:12
ferdiTokenBad, what exactly is the prob?08:12
mojodabar: thx... i'll check that page.  i have MSI Athalon64 board w/ 2 gigabit ports and a 3com 10/100 card (pci) in the box.  Broadband cable is on the 3com interface and want to share the net with roommate (has win xp).  wish me luck... should be fun.  bbl with questions if stuck.08:12
ekimuscesarin: loging out isn't even necessary but it's nice to allow your application to shutdown gracefully08:12
cesarinok08:12
TokenBadI tried sudo apt-get install electricsheep08:12
TokenBadand it gave an error when it got to where it went to install it08:13
dabarmojo, wish you luck:)08:13
ferdiTokenBad, did you install anything else with apt-get before this?08:13
TokenBadsaying it couldn't overwrite some electricsheep file..cause it was part of xscreensaver or something08:13
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TokenBadferdi, yes08:13
ferdiTry aptitude08:14
bmecoli-tristanmike, yesh found it by typing !ntfs08:14
bmecoli-it sees it now, but I'm going in fstab to see how it did it08:14
tristanmikebmecoli-, ahh, two slow08:14
mojodabar: thx.. caught info about ipmasq and dnsmasq, investigating those. u rock.08:14
xuniluserIs there a much better app than wine?08:15
poningruthanks guys08:15
TokenBadferdi I can paste the error on the paste site..if you want to see08:15
bmecoli-/dev/hdb1 /media/0\040GB\040Disk\040(hdb1) vfat rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 008:15
bmecoli-damn, more complex than what I put heh08:15
ferdiPl do not....not allowed08:15
bmecoli-and I put fat instead of vfat08:15
TokenBadferdi, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2400 thats the error message08:15
ferdiSorry, beynd me...08:16
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TokenBadyeah no one seems to know why08:16
ferdiTokenBad, u can update apt itself..08:17
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TokenBadI did apt-get update08:17
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TokenBadI did apt-get install --force-yes electricsheep and all that08:17
ORiON2012TokenBad: if you really want it you'll need to download the deb and dpkg -i --force-overwrite, but that's never advisable (you're not supposed to force overwrites)08:17
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ORiON2012TokenBad: cannot be held responsible yadda yadda08:18
ferdiTokenBad, then one possibility is the required server is not listed in your /etc/apt/sources.list..check out08:18
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naliothTokenBad: do you have the electricsheep deb in your homedir?08:19
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TokenBadI have tried both from the deb file and from apt-get08:19
ORiON2012with --force-overwrite?08:19
naliothTokenBad: do you have the deb in your homedir?08:19
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TokenBadnalioth, yes08:19
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TokenBadhey it gave a new error this time08:20
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TokenBadusing the force-overwrite08:20
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ORiON2012TokenBad: pls paste in #flood08:20
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TokenBadit didn't give that error before08:21
benplautnalioth: bots again?08:21
ORiON2012TokenBad: apt-get install curl xloadimage08:21
ORiON2012TokenBad: then try again08:21
naliothbenplaut: now they'r nickchanging08:21
benplautoof08:21
tristanmikeTokenBad, check here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4371808:21
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TokenBadORiON2012, it worked now08:22
TokenBadno errors on install08:22
naliothbenplaut: i hate nickchanging08:22
naliothTokenBad: did you follow what i sent?08:22
TokenBadnalioth, ORiON2012 already told me to do that08:22
TokenBadwhich I did08:22
naliothTokenBad: good!08:22
TokenBadand it gave the new errors08:22
TokenBadwhich I posted in flood to ORiON201208:22
TokenBadand then using the new commands he gave me..and then retrying it worked08:22
TokenBadthat was first time ever got that kind of error08:23
dabarmojo: I have ip sharing using it right now, my friend that came over is using it on my iBook right now...it involves a bit of setup...08:23
ORiON2012TokenBad: electricsheep is pretty effin' sweet but it eats a lot of resources for me08:23
TokenBadORiON2012, thanks so much...08:23
ColonelKernelhey does ubuntu 5.10 come with a 2.6.13 kernel? or will it be I mean?08:23
TokenBadyeah its great08:23
ORiON2012TokenBad: no problem08:23
TokenBadhow much you have in resources?08:23
TokenBadand how much it eat?08:23
ORiON2012ColonelKernel: I *think* they're sticking to .12 for the release08:23
ORiON2012TokenBad: my heatsink fan never stopped screaming so I stopped using it08:24
ColonelKerneldamnit!!!08:24
ColonelKerneleverything in ubuntu totally rocks except for that08:24
TokenBadheheh...well I got 1 gig of ram and 2.7 proc running at 2.1ghz..so...08:24
TokenBadhope thats enough08:24
ColonelKernelTokenBad, why underclocking?08:25
ORiON2012ColonelKernel: I'm sure there will be updates though... ?08:25
TokenBadColonelKernel, I don't...08:25
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TokenBadits just what it runs at...08:25
TokenBadfor some reason08:25
ColonelKernelTokenBad, is it a mobile processor or something?08:25
TokenBadits a amd 2.7+ running at 2.108:25
ColonelKernelahh08:25
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tristanmikeGood Night, thanx for the help all!08:26
TokenBadnot like that means anything to me08:26
TokenBadheheh08:26
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ColonelKernelthats normal - the actual speed of the CPU is less than the rated speed on it - Ive got an amd 2500+ it runs at 181308:26
TokenBadyep08:26
ColonelKernelthats because the AMD cpu's can do a lot more with a lot less08:26
TokenBadI tried overclocking once...in windows..but didn't have much luck so gave up on it08:27
TokenBadheheh08:27
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ColonelKernelmy 2500+ keeps up with my intel 2.6 no problem08:27
ColonelKerneleverything but stuff that HT takes advantage of anyhow08:27
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ColonelKernelthe 2.6 beats the pants off of the amd for video compression and compilation of thangs08:28
TokenBadwell think I am going to fix something to eat and get to bed...got long day tomorrow and just got back from hospital right before got on here08:28
ColonelKerneland unfortunately I get a lot better videos off of winxp than I do off of linux08:28
ColonelKerneljust from the interface08:28
FatDarrelColonelKernel, do you kow why ?08:28
TokenBadI couldn't find anything to do converting from one movie format to another on linux...08:28
FatDarrelColonelKernel, you can always change the priority rating and that shoudl help08:28
ColonelKernelFatDarrel, because I dont know the command line options are to use in linux08:29
FatDarrelIf i ship out a pc do i have to take out the memory and/or pci cards ?08:29
FatDarrelColonelKernel, oh ok08:29
ColonelKerneland in windows I just have to check a few boxes08:29
jconnerwhat is the best way to update the OS08:29
HylasIs it possible to run games on an ntfs partition with cedega?08:29
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ferdiYes correct--see how it is in commandline mplayer08:29
TokenBadFatDarrel, I would advise it...08:29
TokenBadunless you want to be like my friend08:29
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ORiON2012jconner: update releases (hoary -> breezy) or just software in general?08:30
ferdiColonelKarnel, try mplayer...you will be forced to change your opinion08:30
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chavoHylas, it usually doesn't work08:30
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ColonelKernelferdi, mplayer is aplayer, not a compressor08:30
HylasYeah? I'm getting error 21 :(08:30
ORiON2012Hylas: there is no effective and safe way to write to NTFS, so no08:30
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Hylasfat32 all the way then :)08:31
TokenBadColonelKernel, actually using a program with mplayer it is supposed to do compression...but I didn't have much luck with it08:31
chavoyeah fat32 works fine08:31
jconnerexcuse my noobness08:31
AngryParsleychavo: unless you have a really big hard drive08:31
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ColonelKernelTokenBad, i'd be stoked if I could just use xmpeg with linux08:31
W_DraGoNfux.. my x got ruined08:32
ferdiColonelKernel, sorry but I think you need encoder isn't it?08:32
TokenBadlet me see if I can remember the program ColonelKernel08:32
W_DraGoNhey cafuego_, give me a hand man08:32
ColonelKernelferdi, mencoder yeah08:32
jconneri suppose i want to go from hoary to breezy08:32
chavoAngryParsley, I've got 2 250Gbs here08:32
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ferdiSo mencoder is all that powerful..08:32
W_DraGoNit refused to boot and while reloading gnome it says "failed to start the X server ( your graphical interface ), its not set properly08:32
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AngryParsleychavo: yeah, and your cluster size must be massive08:32
W_DraGoNthe error inside the log says " no screens found"08:32
ColonelKernelbut i'd have to know the command line options, which are going to be atrocious , while in linux its a couple of boxes checked and im done08:32
chavowell no I didn't say 250Gb partition08:32
ORiON2012jconner: Breezy is the upcomming (read in development and therefore unstable) release of Ubuntu08:32
AngryParsleychavo: oh08:32
AngryParsleywell I like big partitions08:33
AngryParsleyand I can not lie08:33
AngryParsleyall you other brother's can't deny... (etc)08:33
TokenBadColonelKernel, it was called mencoder08:33
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ORiON2012when a girls walks in...08:33
W_DraGoNORiON2012: help?08:33
W_DraGoNim cesarin08:33
ColonelKernelis there any place anywhere where I can beg the developers to hook up a howto on how to use 2.6.13+ vanilla kernels on ubuntu?08:33
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ColonelKernelTokenBad, yeah - bummers for me08:33
Cesarin<-- changed the frecuency manually and it then refused to reload08:34
jconnerhow about performance.  right now i have the default install off the 5.04 cd08:34
ColonelKernelI am not competant enought to do good video compression with command line08:34
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TokenBadI tried reading the site but couldn't get the hang of it either08:34
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ferdiCesarin, will it not destroy your Vsync settings?08:34
Cesarinferdi? o_O08:35
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Cesarinmy error again.. " failed to start the X server ( yoour graphical interface ) its not set correctly.08:35
aejhayeelo08:35
ORiON2012Cesarin: in a terminal you need to "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE | less" and tell me what it says08:35
aejhayborng08:35
Cesarinthen inside the log it says "no screens found"08:35
ORiON2012Cesarin: in #flood08:35
ferdiCesarin, yes i mean meddling with the Freq is not recommended..by HW manufacturer08:36
CesarinORiON2012: im on winbloze08:36
ORiON2012Cesarin: scroll up and look for lines that start with "EE"08:36
Cesarinso unless you have a plugin for winbloze to access a linux partition..08:36
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CesarinORiON2012: problem is, I cant even load gnome, thus I dont know how to tell you the information or even send you the log08:37
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Promithey guys, I have PHP 4 and I want to enable GD208:37
Promithow do I do that?08:37
LichteI've been using Breezy for a month with no problems, I just now updated though and now X and Alsa are broken08:37
ORiON2012jconner: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowTo for all about software upgrading/removal/installation08:38
[Chameleon] Cesarin: /var/log/Xorg.0.log08:38
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ORiON2012Cesarin: if you can't get X you need to type that command in a tty08:38
ORiON2012Cesarin: CTRL+ALT+F108:38
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Lichtecan anyone get X to work ??08:38
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Cesarinshould I write absolutely everything it says? its a whole bunch of stuff08:39
CesarinI seen the logs.. >_<08:39
oolonLichte, startx08:39
Cesarinanyway the log clearly says " no screen founds"08:39
inan_X is working?08:39
Lichteoolon: it's broken08:39
inan_hehe08:39
ferdiCesarin, try dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg08:39
ORiON2012Cesarin: that grep EE will filter out everything else08:39
Lichteno, X isn't working08:39
Cesarinok ok wait a minute...08:39
Cesarinyou're all flooding me with commands, wich one is the correct one08:39
ORiON2012ferdi: he's trying to get fglrx working, so no08:39
Lichteoolon: read my previous statement08:39
inan_make him work08:39
inan_did u pay him?08:39
inan_joke08:40
CesarinORiON2012: havent even activated fglrx08:40
inan_=D08:40
inan_anyway..08:40
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inan_is wine usually runs slower than windows?08:40
ORiON2012Cesarin: that's probably the source of the error though, you don't want to erase all your configs08:40
CesarinORiON2012: I just used the trick of cafuego_ to set my monitor frecuency08:40
ferdiORiON2012, Ohh..I didn't get that.08:40
Lichtehas anyone upgraded Breezy in the past hour ??08:40
Cesarinlichte: I just did08:40
LichteCesarin: is it working ?08:40
ORiON2012Cesarin: oh, then listen to ferdi08:40
bob2Lichte: best to just ask your real question08:40
Lichtebob2: I thought I did08:41
ORiON2012Cesarin: that'll set everything back to normal08:41
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Cesarinok holdf on, let me write what ferdi said08:41
ORiON2012Cesarin: and you can go from there08:41
bob2Lichte: you have no follow up question to that?08:41
Lichtebob2: if I had a mouse, I'd paste it again08:41
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Cesarinok, after I do that command of reconfigure, should it all auto detect everything?08:41
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Cesarinproblem is I want it to detect my G75f+ from viewsonic08:42
ORiON2012Cesarin: that'll put everything back to defaults08:42
Cesarinok then08:42
oolondoes dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg work Lichte08:42
Cesarinthat would do08:42
Lichteoolon: the xorg.conf is fine08:42
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Lichteoolon: the problem is that X can't find the mouse08:42
Cesarinwill try in a few08:42
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Lichteoolon:  there is no /dev/input/mice or /dev/psaux08:42
ORiON2012who's oolon?08:43
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Lichteoolon: I JUST upgraded Breezy and now those devices are missing08:43
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Kataklsymwhats the equivalent to the make command in linux?08:44
ORiON2012Lichte: if you're referring to me, I was speaking to Cesarin, not you, bob2 was trying to help you out08:44
Kataklsymi mean ubuntu, not linux08:44
Kataklsymlol08:44
LichteORiON2012: no, I was answering oolon08:44
dabarit is also make, Kataklsym08:44
ORiON2012Lichte: oh, sorry08:44
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LichteORiON2012: oolon asked me if I'd reconfigured X, so I told him that xorg.conf is just fine08:44
Kataklsymdabar: i get command not found when i try make08:45
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Kataklsymroot@ubuntu:/tmp/webcam# make08:45
Kataklsymbash: make: command not found08:45
ColonelKernelpardon my lack of proper grammar there08:45
scragnoffhi guys is it possible to install directx, asides from using winex08:45
ORiON2012Kataklsym: apt-get it08:46
Lichteok, lets try this: how can I get /dev/input/mice back ?08:46
ferdiCesarin, no,...just choose your option in the select place..rest are auto.08:46
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dabarKataklsym: why are you root, and what are you compiling.08:46
Cesarinokey thanks ferdi08:46
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CesarinI will do it in a few08:46
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Cesarinim atm inside my "porn" doze :P08:47
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dabarCesarin: too much info08:47
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CesarinI know :P08:47
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qt2bah, damn xorg.conf...08:48
qt2my side button on the right is right clicking, and the side button on the left is middle clicking... x_x;08:49
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Cesarinok, to do that I go!!08:49
LichteCesarin: is X working after your upgrade ?08:49
qt2ny idea how i fix that?08:49
Cesarinlichte: had no clue, Im having troubles configuring my monitor08:49
qt2*any08:49
Cesarinlet me reset my configuration and ill tell you08:50
LichteCesarin: k08:50
Cesarinbut I dont think it was the update's fault08:50
Cesarinbut my own stupidty, maybe I added something that didnt belong in the configuration file08:50
LichteCesarin: my system was running just fine until I updated08:50
ORiON2012Lichte: so the device does not exist?08:51
LichteORiON2012: nope08:51
LichteORiON2012: it did before I did the upgrade08:51
ORiON2012Lichte: try lsmod | grep mouse08:51
LichteORiON2012: mousedev08:51
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ORiON2012Lichte: hmmm08:51
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ORiON2012Lichte: /dev/input/mice, right? what kind of mouse?08:52
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Kataklsymhmm what does this mean?08:52
Kataklsymroot@ubuntu:/tmp/webcam# make08:52
Kataklsym   Building SPCA5XX driver for 2.5/2.6 kernel.08:52
Kataklsym   Remember: you must have read/write access to your kernel source tree.08:52
Kataklsymmake -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build SUBDIRS=/tmp/webcam CC=cc modules08:52
Kataklsymmake: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.08:52
Kataklsymmake: *** [default]  Error 208:52
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LichteORiON2012: I have a USB mouse, it's uhci08:52
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bob2Kataklsym: that error seems pretty clear08:53
Kataklsymyes i know08:53
bob2Kataklsym: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.08:53
bob2Kataklsym: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)08:53
Kataklsymbut i dont have that directory08:53
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ORiON2012Lichte: is it listed with lsusb?08:54
LichteORiON2012: yes08:54
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LichteORiON2012: and all the usb modules are loaded08:54
dabarKataklsym: it means use http://paste.ubuntulilnux.nl to paste large amounts of text, and dont flood the channel.08:54
Kataklsymim sorry08:54
dabarI want action, not sadness:) meaning, dont do it, dont feel sad.08:55
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ORiON2012Lichte: do any mouse# devices exist in /dev/input?08:55
LichteORiON2012: there is no /dev/input08:55
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LichteORiON2012: it's gone08:56
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Kataklsymgosh what else did ubuntu install leave out08:56
Kataklsymnow i need cc08:56
Kataklsymwhat package is it in08:56
bob2Kataklsym: no, install build-essential08:56
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Kataklsymbob2: what do u mean?08:57
bob2Kataklsym: install the package "build-essental"08:57
Kataklsymoh08:57
ORiON2012Lichte: erm...08:57
naliothKataklsym: for cc install "build-essential"08:57
ORiON2012take it away bob208:57
bob2gcc by itself is not very useful08:57
oliim a linux novice, can someone help me out, need to setup cable net but have no clue where to start08:57
bob2ORiON2012: you sound like pete tong08:57
ORiON2012bob2: it's all gone ...?08:58
dabarwhy pete tong?08:58
Kataklsymi'll eventually get the hang of this new distro08:58
Kataklsymheh08:58
Kataklsymthanks to all u for the help08:58
Kataklsym:D08:58
dabar$2008:58
dabar:P08:58
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W_DraGoNbah08:58
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Cesarin"command reconfigure needs root"08:59
purpleRead this bob2 http://www.majalah.com/08:59
CesarinI loged out from my normal username, and used my default pass for root, it didnt worked..wtf is going on? :/08:59
ORiON2012Cesarin: sudo <the command>08:59
olino internet help, oh well, more fun to figure it out the hard way, take care eveyr one08:59
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Cesarinorion: then it was just sudo dpkg bla bla bla bla ?08:59
purpleexit08:59
purplequit08:59
purplebuy08:59
ORiON2012Cesarin: yeah08:59
Cesarinarggggh x_X08:59
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Cesarinwhy you didnt tell me that lol :P09:00
Cesarin<-- perfeccionist and always writes as others says it09:00
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ORiON2012Cesarin: anytime anything needs root try sudo09:00
Cesarinokey, thanks again09:00
concept10what linux based software is best for creating corporate logos (vector based)09:00
bob2dabar: he hosts a radio show on BBC and says things like "taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake it away" and "turrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrn it up!"09:00
Cesarinbbl09:00
bob2concept10: inkscape is nice09:00
Cesarin(again) :P09:00
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Cesarinbtw ORiON2012: you know why ubuntu loads VERY SLOW?09:00
Cesarinspecially the network devices?09:00
Cesarinwhen it "initializing network devices" takes almost a sec09:01
Cesarina minute I mean09:01
ORiON2012Cesarin: no09:01
Cesarinseems it doesnt like my onboard "marvel YUKON"09:01
concept10bob2: I will try that, gimp is too difficult to create a logo with IMO09:01
Cesarinfrom my asus mobo09:01
LickerQuestion: When installing packages does it matter where they are installed too?09:02
ORiON2012Licker: depends if you care or not...09:02
bob2Licker: dpkg/apt/synaptic/whatever always install packages to the same root location09:02
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Lickerohh bob2 is still here09:03
Licker:p09:03
LichteORiON2012: do I need to reconfigure udev ?09:03
ferdiCesarin, the thing is do that in ubuntu safemode09:03
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ORiON2012Lichte: dunno09:04
Lichtehmmmm09:04
holy_cowmythtv rocks09:04
Lichteso, I'm the only one to upgrade and then lose the mouse and alsa ?09:04
ORiON2012holy_cow: yes it does09:04
holy_cowbest piece of oss software geared for consumers09:04
holy_cowORiON2012, ^5 :)09:04
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inan_hmm09:05
LickerBob2: so if everything has been auto instyalling into /etc/ i should just keep it that way?09:05
inan_GTA runs on linux?09:05
holy_cowit's so solid performing too09:05
holy_cowno glitches09:05
holy_cowno crashes09:05
inan_GTA vice city runs on linux?09:05
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citrushow do i upgrade to breezy guys?09:06
ORiON2012inan_: with Cedega09:06
catfoxanyone know if i can use an adblock extension in epiphany?09:06
LickerORiON2012: whats Cedega09:06
dabarcitrus: breezy is still not released.09:06
ORiON2012!tell Licker about cedega09:07
Lickero.O09:07
bob2Licker: er09:07
bob2Licker: what do you mean by "everything"?09:07
bob2Licker: crap you install from source should be in /usr/local/09:07
inan_ORiON2012, how bout wine?09:07
Lickerwell. when i apt-get install programs they all went to /etc/ dir09:07
ORiON2012inan_: CD-Protection doesn't work with wine09:07
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LickerLAMP09:08
dabarcitrus, thus it is unstable. on another note... /topic09:08
inan_where can we get free Cedega?09:08
inan_=D09:08
qt2is breezy transitioning to stable now or something, btw?09:08
ColonelKernelyeah without tmpfs and devfs ubuntu aint gonna work right09:08
ORiON2012inan_: from CVS, but protection doesn't work there either09:08
qt2inan_: just get wine cvs :/09:08
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inan_i have done with CVS09:09
bob2Licker: where "LAMP" is?09:09
inan_vs checkout: Updating wine/tsx1109:09
inan_cvs checkout: Updating wine/unicode09:09
inan_cvs checkout: Updating wine/win3209:09
inan_cvs checkout: Updating wine/windows09:09
inan_cvs checkout: Updating wine/windows/ttydrv09:09
inan_cvs checkout: Updating wine/windows/x11drv09:09
inan_now i dont know what to do next09:09
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inan_=)09:09
Lickerit was installed in /etc/ dir09:09
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ORiON2012inan_: winehq.org09:09
qt2inan_: http://www.winehq.org/09:09
ORiON2012inan_: or #winehq09:09
inan_vitamin is gone09:09
inan_no one answers09:09
inan_=)09:09
dabarinan_: use paste.ubuntulinux.nl to paste. dont paste here, it makes my text scroll off the screen09:09
LickerLAMP - Linux,Apache,PHP,MySql09:10
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Viking667Good evening, all. Is anyone here using Speech interface? I've tried getting it to run, but no luck.09:10
ORiON2012inan_: websites provide answers too09:10
esacdoes gnome have the transparency integration like KDE does ?09:10
inan_ok thankx09:10
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inan_http://www.winehq.org/site/cvs <-- here i think09:10
inan_=D09:10
inan_brb09:10
ORiON2012esac: you can set panel transparency09:10
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bob2so09:10
bob2compiling wine = #winehq's problem, not ours09:11
garycjust installed wu-ftpd - I am at a complete loss.  It is not in any of the menus.  How is it accessed and setup09:11
dabargaryc: are you installing a ftp server?09:11
ORiON2012garyc: it's a server, runs as a daemon or through xinetd09:11
zxsykcoDidn't have any problems compiling wine..09:11
garycis there a gui or is it all command line stuff09:11
bob2garyc: it's a daemon, it has no gui or use interface of any kind09:11
garycdabar I want to setup an ftp server09:12
dabarbob2: funny you would say that.09:12
dabaruse interface, or user interface?09:12
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Viking667hrm. okay.09:12
dabargaryc: and, what, its not working?09:12
scragnoffhi can anyone help me install directx in ubuntu, if at all possible09:12
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bob2dabar: er, user09:13
bob2scragnoff: to do what?09:13
PlutoPrimegaryc, if you want gui, look into webmin. it's a web interface for all sorts of server services including ftp.. I know it has a frontend for vsftp and proftp not sure wu-ftp09:13
ORiON2012garyc: I know proftpd has a gui called gproftpd, not sure as to wuftpd09:13
dabargaryc: I mean, you cant login using ftp to your computer?09:13
garycdabar I installed it using synaptic - now what09:13
scragnoffhi bob, to launch games09:13
scragnoffhi bob2, to launch games09:13
bob2scragnoff: www.transgaming.com09:13
ORiON2012lol09:13
PlutoPrimegaryc, all your linux box users have access to their home dir now using their linux account09:13
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scragnoffthx bob209:14
Lichtegaryc: ftp localhost09:14
ORiON2012wine/cedega is such a popular subject in #wine... errr #ubuntu09:14
sndjust wondering, locally i can su to root, but via ssh, i cant su, is it because the user needs to be in a certain group?09:14
PlutoPrimegaryc, you can change ports and other settings by editing the config file09:14
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sndi never seen it be allowed locally but not remotely like that09:14
dabarbob2: a daemon, server in particular, ftp, or ssh, or apache, obviously has to have a user interface to be useful, right?09:14
Viking667But I guess that's the only program that makes grief.09:14
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dabargaryc: now open a terminal, and ftp localhost09:15
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PlutoPrimesnd, when you are connecting remotely you can't type "su" as username09:15
bob2snd: su doesn't work at all in a default ubuntu setup, so the problem is related to howver you enabled it09:15
PlutoPrimeyou have to first login as a normal user09:15
bob2dabar: well, their UI is whatever network service they present, I guess09:15
sndi tried sudo remotely too09:15
sndis that blocked out by default too?09:15
Viking667bob2, it doesn't? I got it working with one command.09:15
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dabarbob2: ya, that is what I meant, good.09:15
esachey bob2, running from breezy now :)09:15
Viking667esac, any trouble so far?09:16
dabargaryc: over a network, a ftp server is a bad idea. it does not use any encryption, not even for your password. use sftp, as in vsftpd, that is a sftp server.09:16
bob2Viking667: yes09:16
bob2esac: no problems?09:16
garycdabar I will open a term window - my goal is to have an ftp site on the web that can be use to send files back and forth09:16
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esacbob2 : my synaptics touch pad is way too touchy, and i can't figure out how to change it09:17
PlutoPrimegaryc, I also recommend vsftp09:17
Viking667bob2, I got sudo to create me a password on the root account, so that I can do  the stuff I have to do as root, ...09:17
esacbob2 : i put my thumb on the touch pad just to move the mouse and it immediately registers a click. didn't do this in hoary09:17
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bob2Viking667: yes09:18
esacanybody know how to set it up so i can just ping all of my windows machines on my network by name instead of having to setup a hosts entry for each one ?09:18
bob2esac: ah09:18
ORiON2012bot city09:18
Lichteesac: do a broadcast ping09:18
Viking667lol. Right. I've got to go rub someone's feet. Be back soon.09:18
garycPlutoPrime I looked in the synaptic manager and just picked one.  I want some people to be able to upload and download to my box.  It is really a learning experience09:18
esacLichte : how is that ?09:18
dabarViking667: too much information.09:19
Lichteesac: ping -b09:19
esacLichte : thats the first thing i tried, but it didnt work09:19
esacLichte : i can ping by ip just fine tho09:19
gorodekhi all, i'm new to ubuntu and have a question about performance problems with latest ati driver and gnome.09:19
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Lichteesac: and then give the broadcast address09:19
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gorodekwhen running glxgears i got 100% cpu load and moving/resizing windows leads to the same09:20
dabargaryc: good, you can now learn that sftp is a better idea than ftp. what OS are your friends using?09:20
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dabargaryc: do you use a router?09:20
esacLichte : that's great and all, i just get replies from every system on the network. I want to be able to terminal server into one of them by name09:20
Lichteesac: your broadcast address should end in .25509:20
er4z0rre09:20
garycPlutoPrime - does vsftp allow people to use cuteftp or wsftp to put and get file on the server09:20
xplozz/msg nickserv identify a09:20
ORiON2012gorodek: using software rendering will do that09:20
xplozz/msg nickserv identify a13579z09:20
ORiON2012xploz: m'kay09:20
garycdavar  most use windows.  one uses linux09:21
ORiON2012xploz: shout prob change htat pass now09:21
er4z0r*g*09:21
qt2...so is it safe to upgrade to breezy now?09:21
garycdabar most use windows.  one uses linux09:21
Lichteesac: then you need to setup hosts09:21
xplozyep ! buet it's not the good one, sorry09:21
gorodekORiON2012, i'm currently using "direct rendering: yes"  (glxinfo), what have to be changed?09:21
dabargaryc: the linux friend use gnome? do you have a router?09:21
garycdabar  yes.  I have a sbcglobal dsl router09:22
esacLichte : there has got to be a way with samba09:22
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garycdabar right now no ports are forwarded09:22
dabargaryc: you may have to set up port forwarding.09:22
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ORiON2012gorodek: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:23
gorodekORiON2012, thx i will have look09:23
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Lichteqt2: I've been using it for a month with no problem, but I just upgraded and it's broken now09:24
garycdabar  can people upload files to a folder once it is setup  _  and can I set up a username and password09:24
bob2qt2: if you have to ask, no09:24
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_rhythmhi09:24
qt2bob2, Lichte: ah, i assumd it was pretty stable considering the preview release news on the site... :/09:25
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_rhythmhi09:25
garycdavar  also is vsftp is synaptic manager09:25
Lichteqt2: it has been, until tonight09:25
bob2qt2: it's quite stable for a development version09:25
_rhythmhi09:25
garycdabar also is vsftp in synaptic manager09:25
ORiON2012garyc: yes, and most FTP servers use the system users to auth against by default, you can use virtual user setups too though09:26
dabargaryc: to do that, you should read the manual of the router, and it may be available online. also, I believe the cuteftp and wsftp(being that they are not total crap programs) can be set up for sftp. and you shoudl definitely consider sftp. to make users for them to log in with sftp, just make users for them, as you would for a user of your computer. They will then have a /home/username folder, and can write to it. All other folders, t09:26
bbcs08hi09:26
dabargaryc: go tell me whether it is there.09:26
inan_hi pud09:26
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qt2dabar: as fasr as partfowardin on his router goes, http://www.portforward.com/ is rather informative :P09:27
xplozso.... sorry 4 the pass on chan...09:27
dabargaryc: synaptic package manager pulls packages from a list of repositories that you set up for it. the file for that is /etc/apt/sources.list. it can be edited using synaptic. http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto09:27
ORiON2012xploz: no need to apologize09:27
yahalomhey guys. i have no volume. I get the error: no volume control elements and/or devices found09:27
yahalomSound worked great last night09:28
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yahalomi had an issue wher emy xorg crashed and i found that my mouse had changed from /dev/inpunt/mice to /dev/input/mouse009:28
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yahalomso maybe something similar? device renamed by updates?09:28
Lichteyahalom: I have the same two issues09:28
Lichteyahalom: I have no /dev/input at all now though09:29
dabaryahalom: is esd running?09:29
qt2now, onto my slightly more mundane question, how the hell do i fix my side mose buttons in my xorg.conf? :E09:29
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Lichteyahalom: my sound also doesn't work09:29
yahalomumm09:29
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yahalomLichte: what do u have in /dev/input?09:29
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ORiON2012qt2: google is our master, http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=4609:30
Lichteyahalom: there is no /dev/input09:30
yahalomdabar: let me see, wait how do i check?09:30
Madpilotqt2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto09:30
ferdiLichte, are you using ESD/09:30
Lichteyahalom: it's gone09:30
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Lichteferdi: nope09:30
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Lichteferdi: I'm getting Alsa errors09:30
dabaryahalom: try to start it: esd in a terminal09:30
Lichteferdi: on boot09:30
yahalomLichte: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:30
ferdiFor a change try esd in place of ALSA09:30
yahalomthen see if it add something09:30
Lichteyahalom: xorg.conf is fine!09:30
yahalomferdi: in my case i cant even enter the properties09:31
dabarferdi: how many sound issues have you fixed so far?09:31
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yahalomdabar: how should i check if esd is on? by killall esd?09:31
dabaryahalom: ^09:31
Lichteferdi: none of the programs on my box use esd09:32
yahalomsorry09:32
dabarferdi: I ask cause you say using esd instead of alsa, where it is actually using esd on top of alsa, afaik.09:32
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ORiON2012yahalom: ps -A | grep esd... or that09:32
yahalomORiON2012: thanx09:32
yahalomdabar:  ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave09:33
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garycdabar i went to terminal and put in ftp localhost.  It logged in.  I don't know what I would from there except view file in my home dir09:33
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ORiON2012Amaranth: as in THE Amaranth?09:33
bbcs08haller09:33
Amaranthsure09:33
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bbcs08what09:33
AmaranthWhich one do you mean?09:34
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poofyhairyo09:34
rorouteskyhello to all!09:34
rorouteskymga pinoy ba nandito?09:34
bbcs08i mean how r u?09:34
bbcs08yap09:34
garycdabar it looks to be working09:34
esaci ran upgrade on breezy like the upgrade-monitor told me to. after restarting my computer, X doesn't come back up, complains it can't find my mouse (/dev/psaux or /dev/input/mice). I checked, those devices are missing. any help appreciated!09:34
ORiON2012Amaranth: the icon master09:34
rorouteskycan someone help me in here!?09:34
AmaranthOh, then no. :)09:34
bbcs08you09:34
rorouteskyhello!09:34
yahalomesac: join the club09:34
Lichteesac: no kidding ;)09:34
bbcs08sure09:34
AmaranthDang, and here I thought I had a fairly unique nick.09:34
poofyhairESac: what kind of mouse?09:34
ORiON2012Amaranth: smeg? ... no?09:34
esacpoofyhair: synaptics touchpad09:35
yahalomesac_: nothing in /dev/input09:35
yahalom?09:35
ferdiLichte, first try to change from within...say xmms output pluggin settings, if works then systemwide09:35
ferdidabar, mine only...was exactly th case...if wrong...sorry09:35
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AmaranthYeah, that's me.09:35
ORiON2012Amaranth: sweet09:35
esacyahalom: /dev/input doesn't even exist09:35
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dabarferdi: no need to be sorry09:35
rorouteskyhello... can somebody help me install Wine? im a newbie in Linux09:35
Lichteferdi: it barfs on boot09:35
garycdabar I thought I'm supposed to forward port 21 is that right09:35
heatxsinkanyone else having problems with the X server suddenly not finding their touchpad or mouse?09:35
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ORiON2012Amaranth: thanks for it by the way09:35
AmaranthORiON2012: Glad to help.09:35
rorouteskypls! pls! pls???09:35
Lichteesac: didn't you see me asking about all this earlier ?09:35
poofyhairEsac: I fixed same problem with this faq:09:35
AmaranthI just hope it works, since my only computer access is currently windows only09:35
poofyhairhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6547109:36
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fekmoin09:36
dabargaryc: your ftpd, the server, waits for somene to log in. you can log in through command line, as you just did, or you could log in using a gui ftp client. install gftp and then use that program to log in. command line ftp works so that you type in help in the ftp>prompt, and go from there.09:36
poofyhairIt also worked by just doing hte comment out part of that thread09:36
Lichtepoofyhair: is it a long fix ?09:36
poofyhairno09:36
ukjheh, my ibook touchpad doesn't work either09:37
heatxsinkesac:  did you just upgrade ?09:37
ukjbut i suspect it's a linux problem cos it doesn't work under gentoo either09:37
yahalompoofyhair: u mean the mouse right?09:37
heatxsinkesac:  I'm having that same exact problem09:37
dabargaryc: yes, the ftp port is 21. also, you can log in as localhost from your computer. your friends need to know the router's IP address. http://www.dnsstuff.com/ will tell you that in the top right(there are off course other ways to find out.)09:37
Lichtepoofyhair: is it something you could share with those of us with no X or a mouse or a web browser ?09:37
poofyhairyep09:37
yahalomok09:37
esacheatxsink: i did a clean install of Breezy, and it worked. then i upgraded, and it stopped working09:37
yahalomanyone filed a bug yet?09:37
poofyhairthats how I fixed it09:37
rorouteskycan someone help me in here?09:37
poofyhairit sucked09:37
rockin_stang'morning09:37
heatxsinknods09:37
rorouteskycan someone please help me?09:37
rorouteskyanyone?09:37
heatxsinkthat last upgrade of X stuff huh?09:37
dabarroroutesky: .09:37
yahalomjust ask man09:38
esacLichte: what do you mean no web browser ? sudo apt-get install links09:38
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rorouteskyhow can i install wine?09:38
heatxsinkesac:  that last upgrade of X stuff huh?09:38
crimsunudev is currently very broken in Breezy09:38
yahalomsudo apt-get install wine09:38
rorouteskydabar, pls pm me. i need help!09:38
crimsunyou need to revert to ubuntu1209:38
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ORiON2012!tell roroutesky about wine09:38
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rorouteskyyahalom, can't seem to make it work09:38
Protequeais there any way to make runconfig or something like that?09:38
kezza491gday with ldconfig would any one know how i can add my wx libarys in to it?09:38
Protequewhen compiling a kernel09:38
yahalomcrimsun: revert to ubuntu12?09:38
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rorouteskyis it that simple? i would just have to type those words?09:38
esaccrimsun: how does one revert .. is there a "sudo apt-get revert ubuntu12" command ?09:38
yahalomroroutesky: have all the xtra repos?09:39
yahalomroroutesky: yes09:39
ORiON2012don't make me ubotu you again :-P09:39
rorouteskyhow do i get it? i've just downloaded Wine-2005803.tar.gz09:39
garycdabar then port 21 is forwarded to the ip address (local net 192.168.1.xx) of the linux box - right?????09:39
rorouteskydon't know how to make it work09:39
dabargaryc: exactly.09:39
yahalomroroutesky: man. open terminal. type sudo apt-get install wine09:39
rorouteskywhere to type those words09:39
esacis there a bug filed on this mouse issue ?09:39
dabarcrimsun: many ppl in the channel atm have issues with sound.09:39
rorouteskyok... wait.. i'll try it09:40
yahalomroroutesky: in terminal09:40
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bob2forwarding ftp in is non-trivial09:40
heatxsinkesac:  so your /dev/input has gone away too right?09:40
crimsunesac: see topic09:40
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rorouteskythis came up:09:40
esacheatxsink: correct09:40
dabarbob2: how so?09:41
heatxsinki'm thinking that update edited some boot up file that defines the /dev/input stuff09:41
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rorouteskyit has this message: E: Package wine has no installation candidate09:41
rorouteskywhat's that?09:41
esaccrimsun: using irssi so i dont know what the topic was so i dont know what you added that i might want to look at .. bug 15932 ?09:41
crimsunheatxsink: it's as the bugzilla report noted in the topic suggests09:41
garycdabar I forgot how to log on to my 2wire router.  I have the instructions somewhere or I can call the 800 support tech and they will help.09:41
crimsunesac: yes.09:41
dabarroroutesky: are you reading messages from ubotu?09:41
bob2dabar: it uses two ports, one of which the client picks09:41
bob2er09:41
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rorouteskywats dat?09:42
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dabargaryc: read the manual is my suggestion on that point.09:42
yahalomroroutesky: u need the xtra repos09:42
yahalomroroutesky: check out ubuntuguide.org09:42
rorouteskyhow do i get those?09:42
dabarroroutesky: what program are you using for IRC?09:42
rorouteskyit can't be accessed09:42
dabaryahalom: please do not recommend repos from ubuntuguide.09:42
rorouteskyim using xchat09:42
garycdabar but first I might take out wu-ftpd and put in vsftp instead09:42
heatxsinkoh man09:43
dabarroroutesky: does it say ubotu anywhere in the xchat window?09:43
heatxsinkawesome09:43
heatxsinkand no fixes09:43
yahalomdabar: why not? i've been using them since warty. no probs.09:43
esaccrimsun: ok so the answer is to downgrade udev .. how do i do that ?09:43
dabaryahalom: they have open backports.09:43
ORiON2012I swear I'll do it again09:43
heatxsinksearch for udev?09:43
crimsunesac: sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/udev_0.060-1ubuntu12_i386.deb09:43
yahalomdabar: or right. so dont use the backports :)09:43
garycdabar  will I still be able to forward the router and get my users in using that package??09:43
heatxsinkapt-get revert udev09:44
heatxsink?09:44
heatxsinkit's a package09:44
esaccrimsun: thank you very much, appreciated09:44
dabarORiON2012: he does not yet know what ubotu is doing09:44
rorouteskyyup09:44
crimsunheatxsink: see the command I just posted09:44
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dabarroroutesky: click on it, and read what he sent you.09:44
ORiON2012dabar: just having a little fun :)09:44
rorouteskyah, ok09:44
crimsundabar: who's having audio problems?09:44
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rorouteskytanx. get back to you later!09:44
yahalomcrimsun: me09:44
heatxsinkcrimsun:  thanks!09:44
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crimsunyahalom: sound chipset?09:45
yahalomcrimsun: and Lichte09:45
crimsunLichte: sound chipset?09:45
tearIf my device manager can find a disk via my raid card, how do I mount the partition (HDA2) so a folder under /home?09:45
Lichtecrimsun: I think this will get fixed with udev revert09:45
yahalomcrimsun: umm. i think nvidia or something. it worked till last night. today i get. no volume control elements and/or devices found. ESD isnt running.09:45
esaccrimsun : 1ubuntu12 doesn't exist in /var/cache/apt/archives :(09:46
yahalomcrimsun: when i try to start it i get:  ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave09:46
crimsunyahalom: / Lichte: if you're running current Breezy, downgrade udev.09:46
ORiON2012crimsun: any idea how many chipsets are affected?09:46
heatxsinkesac:  that worked for me09:46
LichteI don't have any versions of udev in my archives09:46
yahalomcrimsun: as above, yes?09:46
crimsunesac: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/udev/udev_0.060-1ubuntu12_i386.deb09:46
esacheatxsink: probably cause you upgrade at one point to 1ubuntu12, where as i just did a clean install tonight ?09:47
heatxsinkwget that09:47
esaccrimsun: thanks again09:47
Madpilotdoes anyone know where Enemy Territory keeps it's .desktop file? I'd like to modify it to suit Ubuntu's menus a bit better...09:47
yahalomcrimsun: sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/udev_0.060-1ubuntu12_i386.deb and thats it?09:47
esaccrimsun : sucks that i can't cut/paste without a mouse :)09:47
heatxsinknods09:47
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heatxsinktype it brother09:47
mrchicagoello09:47
mrchicagoall09:47
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crimsunyahalom: presuming the path is valid, yes, else you need to wget the URL I just pasted09:47
ORiON2012Madpilot: locate enemyterritory.desktop? or something to that effect09:47
crimsunORiON2012: the udev issue?09:47
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yahalomcrimsun: ok i'll try09:48
ORiON2012crimsun: yeah, been quite a few in here tonight09:48
heatxsinkwow09:48
heatxsinkamazing09:48
heatxsinkthanks guys09:48
heatxsinknow I can get back to coding09:48
heatxsink:-)09:48
crimsunORiON2012: everyone running ubuntu13 is affected. That's why I posted it in the topic.09:48
giovannhow to use a command of automount ?09:48
ORiON2012crimsun: oh09:48
dabargiovann: automount what?09:48
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Lichteok, now to reboot09:49
esacbrb, lets see if downgrading works :)09:49
yahalomcrimsun: does it require a reboot?09:49
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Lichtethanks crimsun !09:49
mrchicagodont know if ill upgrade to breezy09:49
giovannyup09:49
mrchicagowhats new in it09:49
crimsunyahalom: at least a udev restart09:49
dabarmrchicago: dont till its released.09:49
yahalomLichte: it works?09:49
giovanni want to automount my floppydisk09:49
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dabargiovann: it should afaik, if you are running gnome.09:49
Lichteyahalom: yes!09:50
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esacit worked, thanks crimsun09:50
crimsunnp09:50
dabarexcellent09:50
yahalomcrimsun: so i should wait with further upgrades now? or it wonts affect the udev again like this?09:50
esacyahalom: sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart , sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart09:50
LichteAlsa is fixed now too09:50
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mrchicagowill dvdstylist be include in repo09:50
yahalomLichte: sound too?09:50
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Lichteyahalom: yes!09:50
Lichte:D09:51
ORiON2012adn the crowd goes wild...09:51
yahalomLichte: OK! lets see.09:51
yahalomlol09:51
yahalomnever realise how much influnce ubuntu has09:51
mrchicagowhy dont the guys like scan freshmeat to build a repository09:51
dabaresac: use sudo invoke-rc.d daemonName restart09:51
yahalomliek coffee in the morning09:51
garycdabar  I type help at the local host prompt.  It asked for password and I put my password in.  It didn't like it and put me to an  ftp prompt09:51
alexandroscan someone please tell me how to compile a source that comes as a debian package (.deb)?09:52
crimsunyahalom: you'll want to wait til ubuntu14 shows up. It should be fixed shortly.09:52
garycdabar do you know the password for this09:52
yahalomcrimsun: ok man thanx09:52
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crimsunmrchicago: what guys?09:52
Lichteyahalom: any luck ?09:52
dabaruser name should be your user name, and password your password. ftp localhost is the command to get it started09:52
qt2is there a way to reload the xorg.conf without restarting x?09:53
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qt2or a way to suspend an x window, and resume it after restarting x?09:53
mrchicagothe guys that put together ubuntu09:53
esacok, back to my earlier question. how can i configure linux so i can ping/connect to my windows boxes by name without setting up hosts09:53
inan_i have run the GTA vice city, and this is the error09:53
inan_X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)09:53
inan_  Major opcode of failed request:  1 (X_CreateWindow)09:53
inan_  Serial number of failed request:  2009:53
inan_  Current serial number in output stream:  2709:53
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dabarinan_: what did I say about pasting?09:54
crimsunmrchicago: what packages are missing?09:54
inan_ok sorry09:54
ORiON2012and about wine in general...09:54
mrchicagoid like to have a way to install dvdstylist09:54
esacinan_ anything more than 2 lines you shouldn't paste .. and 2 lines you should do once every 10 minutes :)09:54
mrchicagofor one09:54
mrchicagoi keep getting an error09:54
giovannany one hre kn ow how to automount ?09:54
dabarmrchicago: I like fresh meat. but only after it is heat-processed.09:55
crimsunmrchicago: it's not possible for us to package every single application in existence09:55
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mrchicagoi know09:55
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dabargiovann: does your floppy not automount when you put it in?09:55
crimsunmrchicago: if you'd like to help maintain it, please see the MOTU Web pages09:55
mrchicagobut there isnt dvd creation stuff09:55
mrchicagothat i can use09:55
mrchicagook09:55
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esaci'd just like to say that if it weren't for ubuntu, i still wouldn't like linux09:56
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mrchicagowhats the url for it09:57
Seveaswiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU09:57
dabarwiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU09:57
mrchicagoah esac ive used mandrake for years09:57
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yahalomok confimed. udev fixed the sound issue too09:58
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yahalomcrimsun: thanx09:58
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esacmrchicago: i've tried nearly every distro out there and never stuck with it, because there just isn't that polish. ubuntu is the first time that i've felt that at least the wax is being applied09:58
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garycdabar: Is there a manual on the ftp commands I got when i typed help at the prompt09:58
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yahalomesac: thats moving :)09:59
dabarlikely, info ftp09:59
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yahalomesac: i agree btw09:59
dabargaryc: info ftp in a terminal, if you did not  catch that.09:59
garycdabar:  thanks10:00
dabar@3910:00
dabar$3410:00
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mrchicagothere is a debv package for it10:01
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EproxusHi, is there someone here who can give me some help on the latest Breezy update?10:01
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dabarEproxus: /topic has a URL that may help, sound?10:01
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agabusi want multi-media codecs on breeze anyone help? give me a link?10:02
Eproxusdabar: Will check it out, thanks.10:02
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giovanndabar yes my floppy not automount when i put it this10:02
xuniluserHELP: How do I add network printers in Ubuntu?10:02
Seveasagabus, www.mplayerhq.hu10:02
freeman_08help on computer sharing please10:02
freeman_08i cant see other ubuntu computers in my network10:03
Seveasxuniluser, system -> admin -> printers; add printer; network printer10:03
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dabarfreeman_08: can you ping them?10:03
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freeman_08i dont even knw what their ip address is10:04
nicxzLatest Breezy update caused X to not find my mouse (fixed with /etc/init.d/udev restart ) but also no wireless (intel 2200bg) . anyone have an idea how to fix this?10:04
xuniluserSeveas: i tried adding a network printer but it did not work.10:04
freeman_08ubuntu installed it10:04
poofyhairwhat do yall think of Easy Ubuntu?10:04
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dabarfreeman_08: ifconfig tells you the ip address of a cvomputer10:04
xuniluserSeveas: what should i put in the "URI:"10:04
freeman_08tnx10:05
freeman_08but i have internet connection on each computers10:05
Seveas\\ip.address.of.machine\printer_share_name10:05
dabarfreeman_08: do uit on each then10:05
freeman_08i just want to see other pc's just like in network neighborhood10:05
dabaryou have to add them likely10:06
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Lichtefreeman_08: if you're using KDE you can start lisa on all of them and then browse them in konqueror10:06
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Lichtefreeman_08: I'm not sure what all the setup involves10:07
nsomniacrandom question ... can anyone think of a proggie like ACDsee under windows for linux that will slideshow a directory ?10:07
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freeman_08eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:E0:00:34:27:B210:07
freeman_08          inet addr:192.168.1.7  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.010:07
freeman_08          inet6 addr: fe80::2e0:ff:fe34:27b2/64 Scope:Link10:07
freeman_08          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:110:07
freeman_08          RX packets:3746 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:310:07
freeman_08          TX packets:3054 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:010:07
freeman_08          collisions:39 txqueuelen:100010:07
freeman_08          RX bytes:2297939 (2.1 MiB)  TX bytes:486283 (474.8 KiB)10:07
freeman_08wheres my ip add here/10:07
yahalomcrimsun: any idea why fglrx doesnt work anymore? is it a bug?10:08
dabarfreeman_08: dont flood http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:08
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crimsunfreeman_08: inet addr:192.168.1.710:08
Seveasdamn you.10:08
dabarinet addr:192.168.1.710:08
yahalomlol10:08
dabarSeveas: heh, damn him?10:08
Lichtensomniac: gwenview10:08
nsomniacLOL10:08
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nsomniacLichte thanks10:08
crimsunyahalom: sorry, I'm not an fglrx user. Please search bugzilla.10:08
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yahalomcrimsun: ok. tx10:09
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Lichtensomniac: :)10:09
esacanybody know where to find libnss_wins ?10:09
esaccan't find it in synaptic or apt-cache10:09
kezza491howdy i got wx installed but when i try and run any python scripts that have wx it says that it cant import it any help welcome10:09
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crimsunkezza491: hoary or breezy, and which version of wxwindows/wxwidgets?10:10
kezza491umm i got widgets and i think i am on10:10
kezza491 ubuntoo dont know the deb name10:11
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nicxzkezza491: do a ' cat /etc/issue' to see what you're on10:11
crimsunkezza491: lsb_release -a|grep ^Release10:11
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kezza4915.0410:12
kezza491cat /etc/issue10:12
kezza491woops10:12
nicxz:)10:12
kezza491Hoary Hedgehog10:12
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crimsunkezza491: then you need to install libwxgtk2.5.3-python10:13
Seveaswinbind: lib/libnss_wins.so.210:13
Seveasesac,10:13
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esacSeveas: nod already figured it out, thanks :)10:13
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dabarand beyond10:14
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ORiON2012'night10:14
GrannyTuxanybody know if 64bit java is out yet10:14
rockin_stananybody has Kgpg running in ubuntu?10:14
mirakhi10:14
kezza491know where i can download and compile that?10:14
crimsunGrannyTux: yes, Sun, IBM, and Blackdown each provide kits10:14
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mirakI am looking for a web newsreader client. I found postman, is that the only one around ?10:14
GrannyTuxkool thx10:14
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GrannyTuxwhat about the pluging forr flash10:15
konfuzedI was just mulling over a bunch of things and was seeing the great system security simplification of locking out the root user from even having a password to log in with.10:15
ORiON2012mirak: graphical?10:15
GrannyTuxi here some probs with media play10:15
xuniluserIs there a way for me to retrieve lost files in a USB flash drive?10:15
konfuzedhow is that done anyway10:15
poofyhairxuniluser: lost?10:15
pittikonfuzed: use "sudo"10:16
Madpilot!tell konfuzed about root10:16
mirakORiON2012 web based10:16
mirakORiON2012 kind of like what google offers10:16
yahalomhow do i split an avi movie into two cds?10:16
konfuzedanyone know of ..................... splendid10:16
dabarGrannyTux: what probs with media play?10:16
duffman25Hi, I have an amd64 with breezy. Today's updates have broken my packages. I had to uninstall ubuntu-desktop & I can't reinstall it since it says openoffice.org2 & openoffice.org2-gnome is not installable, on my other 386 machine everything went fine. Any ideas?10:16
xuniluserpoofyhair: I plugged it in a windows box and copied some files into it, double checked in my linux(ubuntu) box and they're all there. Then after installing Mandrake, when i checked it, they're gone!10:17
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Cossinsxuniluser: was the device plugged in during mandrake installation?10:17
linnerhello everyone10:17
linner:)10:17
GrannyTuxi had probs to went back to 32 bit10:17
xuniluserCossins: nope...10:17
dabarhey, linner. same linner from the forums?10:17
poofyhairxuniluser: did you unmount the pen drive in Ubuntu?10:18
linnerdabar yep :)10:18
Cossinsxuniluser: ok... you are sure you didn't accidentally format it?10:18
dabarok, good.10:18
mrchicagough10:18
linnerdabar, how are you?10:18
xuniluserCossins: the orig files are still there, only the newly saved files were lost10:18
duffman25Hi, I have an amd64 with breezy. Today's updates have broken my packages. I had to uninstall ubuntu-desktop & I can't reinstall it since it says openoffice.org2 & openoffice.org2-gnome is not installable, on my other 386 machine everything went fine. Any ideas?10:18
Cossinsxuniluser: oh... weird...10:18
Inf3ctedfxHello ppl, I'm trying to mount my slave HDD with has an NTFS file use to be my windows slave HDD, in my fstab I have like this:   dev/hdb       /media/slave    ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       010:18
Inf3ctedfx,  how can I mount it?10:18
xuniluserpoofyhair: of course10:18
GrannyTuxi want to try 64 bit again but i think you have to be careful mixing and matching 32 and 64 bit programs10:18
poofyhairxunilusesr: didn't mean to insult.10:18
CossinsInf3ctedfx: mount /media/slave ?? also, you need an / before dev10:19
GrannyTuxthere is some infor in the forums on doing this10:19
Inf3ctedfxI'm trying to use the command:  mount /dev/hdb /media/slave10:19
xuniluserInf3ctedfx: mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb /media/slave10:19
poofyhairxunilusesr: have you only tied in mandrake?10:19
linnerwhat do ya'll recommend for burning ISOs?10:19
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poofyhairrtied10:19
poofyhairtried10:19
poofyhairdarn10:19
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Inf3ctedfxok Cossins  and xuniluser , let me try that one10:19
linneri'm trying to make a CD for my laptop of 5.0410:19
Viking667right. It's probably time I left. Night, all.10:19
Cossinslinner: cdrecord, but maybe i'm just old-school...10:19
xuniluserpoofyhair: tried that also in ubuntu10:19
linneri've been trying all day... and the only thing I can get on there is Mepis... which I hate10:19
duffman25anyone here uses amd64 breezy?10:20
linnerCossins, cdrecord?  does that come with the package?10:20
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linnerduffman25, that's what i'm trying to get on my laptop10:20
sartekhi10:20
konfuzedYou can use sudo -i to initialize a full root environment.   I suppose that's inherrent within sudo but doesnt that re-enable the same security issues for which root is disabled ???10:20
linnersartek, hello10:20
Cossinslinner: it should, it's a command line app10:20
Inf3ctedfxlook guys this is the message that I have:   root@ubuntu:/etc# mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb /media/slave/10:20
Inf3ctedfxmount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /media/slave/ busy10:20
linnercommand line.. oh no... :)10:20
duffman25linner: I have broken packages with today's updates10:20
kezza491hmm that dont make sence i have already installed wxPython-src-2.6 the lastest version of wx and python still dose not see it10:20
Cossinslinner: if you want nice and easy gui, use k3b10:20
linnerCossins, oh thank you!10:20
Cossinslinner: np :)10:21
linnerduffman25, yeah i'm havin all kinds of probs too10:21
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GrannyTuxgnomebaker is not to bad either10:21
Inf3ctedfxit said is already mounted and busy...10:21
GrannyTuxas a front end10:21
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duffman25linner: if using gnome install gnomebaker10:21
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linnerduffman25, yeah I have gnome10:21
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xuniluserInf3ctedfx: so it is already mounted so u dnt need to mount it10:21
poofyhairgraveman is better than gnomebaker10:21
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Inf3ctedfxso how can I access to that SLAVE?  xuniluser ?10:21
linnerpoofyhair, is graveman gui?10:21
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poofyhairyep10:22
linnerpoofyhair, what makes it better?10:22
poofyhairNice GUI10:22
xuniluserInf3dtedfx: go to /media/slave10:22
Inf3ctedfxok hold on xuniluser10:22
konfuzedok so I read some more and my inquiries are very informed10:22
konfuzed;^)10:22
poofyhairAnd of course K3B is the best burning program10:22
Inf3ctedfxI'm already there but it wont show me anything10:22
poofyhairEver I say10:22
linnerk3b is?10:22
mrchicagosheesh10:22
Inf3ctedfxlook xunil :  root@ubuntu:/# cd /media/slave/10:23
Inf3ctedfxroot@ubuntu:/media/slave# ls10:23
Inf3ctedfxroot@ubuntu:/media/slave#10:23
alletann33hi everybody10:23
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sarteknow i am installed ubuntu and i was surprised (really) when the x start automatticaly (no errors or something) but only 800x600. now i download the updates & after xorgconfig..10:23
poofyhairYep, but its a KDE program. So you have to install some libs with it10:23
poofyhairits what I use10:23
konfuzedwow that may have been the shortest turn around on useful feedback review ever10:23
linnerpoofyhair, yeah I can't use it.. I have gnome10:23
poofyhairisntall it in synaptic and then10:23
linnerthanks though10:23
poofyhairI have gnome too10:23
konfuzed;^) thanks ;^)10:23
mrchicagoPlease check that wx-config is in path, the directory10:23
poofyhairI still use K3B10:23
mrchicago        where wxWidgets libraries are installed (returned by10:23
mrchicago        'wx-config --libs' command) is in LD_LIBRARY_PATH or10:23
mrchicago        equivalent variable and wxWidgets is version 2.4.2 or above.10:23
linneroh you do?10:23
poofyhairyep10:23
mrchicagoi keep getting that10:23
linnerI thought you couldn't use KDE stuff with GNOME10:23
poofyhairits the best, why not10:23
poofyhairyou can10:23
linnerand visa versa10:23
Cossinslinner: of course you can10:23
poofyhairthey just don't "mesh"10:23
mrchicagoand wxWidgets isnt in the repo10:23
Inf3ctedfxso waht do u think i'm doing wrong xuniluser ?10:24
poofyhairthey look a little different and you have to install KDE libs10:24
Cossinslinner: they run perfectly together10:24
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poofyhairI think it works GREAT10:24
linnerCossins, oh you can?10:24
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poofyhairhere is what to do:10:24
alletann33anyone10:24
linnerCossins, man am I outta the loop10:24
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linnerit tells me that it won't install the libs10:24
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linnerwhen i click on it through synaptic10:24
poofyhairhi alletann3310:24
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Cossinslinner: huh? strange10:24
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linnerCossins, I know10:24
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linnerI've come across this before10:25
poofyhairhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto?highlight=%28k3b%2910:25
Cossinslinner: else, use gnomebaker or something for which you already have the libs10:25
poofyhairhey linner10:25
linneryeah poofyhair10:25
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poofyhairI started that page one day for a time like this10:25
linnerCossins, ok...10:25
sartekcan u tell me some tipps & tricks?:)10:25
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xuniluserHELP: In a pure linux network, how do workstations access shared resources from other workstations?10:25
GrannyTuxhey graveman looks kool does it auto convert mp3 to wav for audio cd s?10:25
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linnerpoofyhair, I'm lost10:26
poofyhairgrannytux: yeah10:26
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GrannyTuxor at least have the back in command line for that10:26
poofyhairlinner: where are you lost10:26
anelehi10:26
Inf3ctedfxdoesn anyone knows.. how can I access to my slave HDD?? I already mount the HDD but when I try to access ther it said is busy.. any sugestions??10:26
er4z0rdoes anyone know a good tutorial on installing a Tomcat server on Ubuntu?10:26
linnerpoofyhair, at what you said10:26
GrannyTuxkool10:26
anelei need help10:26
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poofyhairlook at this link:10:26
anelei'm new10:26
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poofyhairhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto?highlight=%28k3b%2910:26
linnerwelcome anele10:26
er4z0ranele: just ask :)10:26
linnerpoofyhair, thanks let me go see it10:26
Tomcat_er4z0r: There are howtos on the ubuntuforums10:27
anelei just started using ubuntu, and cant figure out how to set up a LAN10:27
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er4z0rTomcat_: duh, I only searched the wiki10:27
er4z0rTomcat_: thanks10:27
anelei have 6 users connected onto internet and local LAN hub via windows gaTEWAY10:27
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after8is there another place apart from fstab where partitions are mounted.10:28
poofyhairno10:28
er4z0ranele: What do you want to accomplish?10:28
poofyhairwhy?10:28
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poofyhairgot a problem?10:29
after8i sort of frbed up with /etc and now it is mounted without being in fstab: i see it twice in mtab10:29
er4z0ranele: what function does you Ubuntu-Box have in the net?10:29
sPYder---i need help10:29
sPYder---i dont know how to install even a yahoo messenger10:29
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Uruclefhi all!10:29
anelePLEASE WALK ME THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS. WHERE DO I BEGIN10:29
poofyhairspyder: you don't really need yahoo messenger10:29
sPYder---why10:29
poofyhairthe installed program "gaim" can do that10:29
sPYder---wow10:29
crimsunanele: please don't "scream"10:30
after8sPYder---> install synaptic:  type sudo apt-get install synaptic.... you can install loads with that ;)10:30
poofyhairif you want, there is a Linux yahoo messenger, but it lacks the features of gaim10:30
UruclefI have a problem with gdesklets.. can someone help me plesae?10:30
poofyhairI love gdesklets- what10:30
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aneleSorry man my capa were on I didnt notice10:30
Uruclefwell10:30
er4z0ranele: by telling me what exactly want ;)10:30
er4z0ranele: just net acces with your Ubuntu-box?10:31
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giovannhow to use automount? and what is the command ?10:31
poofyhairCan I help with gdesklet problem?10:31
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sPYder---poofyhair ty10:31
poofyhairno problem10:31
aneleI have never used Ubuntu b 4 I just started y/day and now I want to setup a network10:31
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after8giovann> you need the filesystems setup in /etc/fstab and autmount should do it itself.10:31
anelewhere by users can share info10:31
Uruclefpoofyhair, query please :)10:31
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sPYder---poofyhair what OS u using?10:32
poofyhairBreezy10:32
poofyhairHow do I query?10:32
Uruclefhmm well10:32
UruclefI queried you10:32
Uruclefyou should an icon flashing :D10:32
poofyhairI don't10:33
poofyhairdarn10:33
linnerpoofyhair, i did what the wiki said... i have my little icon up at the right panel but now it doesn't launch10:33
sPYder---is there a big difference with breezy from 5.04?10:33
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linnerpoofyhair, weird10:33
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poofyhairdid you use gksudo?10:33
linneryes10:33
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er4z0ranele: ok. are you logged into your ubuntu?10:33
linnerlogged in10:33
linnerand then nothing happened10:33
after8hi lnner ;)10:33
poofyhairspyder: a few. it will be worth the upgrade when released10:33
Uruclefpoofyhair10:33
poofyhairyep10:33
UruclefI'll tell you my problem here, ok? :)10:33
linnerafter8, how the heck are you man!!!10:33
poofyhairok10:33
er4z0ranele: btw. is it GNOME or KDE you are using?10:33
bob2sPYder---: better hardware support, general new shineyness10:34
sPYder---yeah if it is released :D i will upgrade10:34
ompaulwell theres fun - gdm blew up :)10:34
aneleYes I am logged on10:34
UruclefI have Ubuntu 5.04 na dinstalled gdesklets10:34
Uruclefwhen I run one10:34
mrchicagoman what is with the error with setiathome10:34
after8linner> hehe fine.... as long as my proxy stops dieing on me!!!10:34
Uruclefall I get is an empty window10:34
poofyhairlinner: it takes a while for me the first time10:34
GrannyTuxok its been a couple of centuries since i used irc what the keyboard shortcut for msg someone10:34
Uruclefwith nothing on it10:34
giovannlyndon@Station18:~$ /etc/fstab10:34
giovannbash: /etc/fstab: Permission denied10:34
garyc_dabar goto other window10:34
sPYder---these is my first days of linux10:34
linnerafter8, your proxy is dieing?10:34
poofyhairlinner: like over a minute- I have fast machine. All next time it faster10:34
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sPYder---:D10:34
linnerpoofyhair, oh okay10:34
linnerpoofyhair, i'll just wait somemore10:34
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sPYder---and i think that i will like it10:34
aneleGnome10:34
garyc_dabar you there10:34
sPYder---how to PM users?10:35
after8giovann> gksudo gedit /etc/fstab10:35
giovannok10:35
poofyhairuruclef: what desklet did you install10:35
after8linner> yep.... keeps dropping out and i get kicked :/10:35
MadpilotGrannyTux: /msg <nick> <blather>10:35
poofyhairdid you isntall the "gdesklets-data" pacakge?10:35
UruclefI don't remember10:35
Uruclefbut I tried many10:35
linnerafter8, that sux!10:35
Uruclefit's not a single desklet problem10:35
oO[NOVA] Ooi would just like to inform everyone i have the flu. thanks you. ps; why is it so hard to get smb mounts working properly in /etc/fstab ?10:35
Cossinsanyone remember the solution to the key-press-changes-X-resolution-problem?10:35
poofyhairthen its a python problem10:35
giovann# /etc/fstab: static file system information.10:35
giovann#10:35
giovann# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>10:35
giovannproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       010:35
giovann/dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       110:35
giovann/dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       010:35
giovann/dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0       010:35
giovann/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       010:35
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poofyhairhave you doen things to your python?10:36
er4z0ranele: good. go to the system menu and try to find network10:36
Uruclefme? not at all10:36
linnerpoofyhair, it's still not loading10:36
UruclefI just installed it :)10:36
mrchicagoksetiathome isnt installing either10:36
poofyhairspyder- I hope you use the forum too10:36
Uruclefwhen I installed the rest of my sistem10:36
poofyhairgood10:36
poofyhairuse those desklets10:36
after8giovann> dont paste... use pastebin or #flood channel10:36
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after8!pastebin10:36
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl10:36
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Seveaswhat's up with the net today10:36
Seveasno one has any netiquette?10:37
Uruclefwell10:37
poofyhairlinner: is K3B running? put hte command "top" in a terminal10:37
Uruclefthey don'ty run10:37
after8Seveas> :D10:37
UruclefI simply get an empty window10:37
poofyhairjust a blank?10:37
Uruclefyep10:37
Uruclefwith e X and nothing more10:37
konfuzedis there another bot to tell me about getting ubuntu to upgrade my buddies lame windoz box to a dual boot ubuntu system that mounts also mounts his windoz partition under ext3fs and samba ? ;^)10:37
poofyhairin gnome?10:37
after8linner you having pbs with k3b?10:37
linnerpoofyhair, I don't see it10:37
poofyhairdern10:37
linnerafter8, yeah totally10:37
sjgAnyone running breezy experiencing sound issues recently after updating ?10:37
Uruclefsure10:37
Uruclefbyt10:37
Uruclefyhere is more10:37
poofyhairhmmmm10:37
Cossinsnetiquette... how 90's...10:37
er4z0ranele: still there?10:38
ompaulSeveas: they were all trained by im clients, no irc concepts invoked and caps the order of the day10:38
mrchicagothink i got dvd styler to work10:38
mrchicagoi hope10:38
poofyhairtry just the command "k3b"10:38
Uruclefmm10:38
sjgi.e. No sound card configured.10:38
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UruclefI'm in win now10:38
Seveasompaul, it's still september10:38
UruclefI reboot10:38
Seveas</bitter>10:38
after8bad.... k3b is cool.  yeah, try it in console, see if u get an error message10:38
Uruclefwait a minute :)10:38
Uruclefthanks10:38
ghostdogi heard u can use GMAIL account as a virtual hard disk ? can we use that here in UBUNTU?10:38
UruclefI'll be back in a minute10:38
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ompaulSeveas: this I know :)10:38
linnerafter8, I decided I liked ubuntu on the desktop and decided to format my laptop and put ubuntu on there ... didn't work...10:38
poofyhairdid I help at all?10:38
Cossinsghostdog: no, it's illegal10:38
after8linner> hehe it will though, dont worry, youre at the right place10:39
thenukevirtual harddisk.. I would like to use gmail as filesystem too even if it is illegal10:39
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linnerafter8, so i redownloaded it on my linux box and am trying to burn and ISO so I can try another install10:39
linnerafter8, I know... you guys rocks...10:39
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Cossinsi'd like to rob a bank, but it's illegal, so i dont ;-)10:39
W_DraGoNfor the love of god10:39
after8Cossins> lol10:39
W_DraGoNokey guys, the X is filled with errors, I dont know what to do10:39
poofyhairyou can right click ISOs and gnome will burn them itself10:39
ghostdogNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO10:39
W_DraGoNI tried to reconfigure it various times, but says the same10:39
after8W_DraGoN> breezy?10:39
W_DraGoNafter8: yeah10:39
CossinsX.org is generally f'ed up in breezy10:39
W_DraGoNit worked flawless by the CD10:39
after8tried sudo apt-get install xfs ?????10:40
CossinsI mean really REALLY b0rken!!10:40
W_DraGoNinstalled the patches and moved manually the frecuency of my monitor ( since it was locked to 60 Hz, and my monitor can rank up to 90 Hz )10:40
thenukeCossins: robbery is a bit different kind of thing you  know :)10:40
W_DraGoNthen it BROKEN10:40
SeveasColonelKernel, bullshit10:40
garyc_poofyhair: I have tried K3b - gnomebaker - Nautilus  the cd just wont burn.  It gives no error.  just hangs   any idea10:40
SeveasX.org works fine10:40
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Cossinsthenuke: yes, the crime is different, but the concept is the same...10:40
thenukeblah10:40
after8xfs doesnt seem to install properly when upping to breezy (3 machines same pb)10:40
poofyhairis DMA on?10:40
W_DraGoNwell any ideas?10:40
ColonelKernel??10:40
W_DraGoNlet me give you guys the errors10:40
CossinsSeveas: obviously, not for everybody - "works for me" is not an excuse for bad debs...10:40
konfuzedok I found the find page on the wiki and answered  my questions10:40
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konfuzedthis is just a little too effective10:41
after8W_DraGoN> installed xfs?  what is the error?     if large, paste to pastebin10:41
W_DraGoNIll shortcut since the other errores were just... not fatal10:41
konfuzed;^)10:41
SeveasCossins, not knowing how to configure it properly is not an excuse for blaming it on the devs10:41
poofyhairlook at this link:10:41
W_DraGoN"errors from kbb comp are not fatal for xserver"10:41
W_DraGoNthen..10:41
thenukeI dont like it when ppl think that every crime is Crime and so forth you shall never ever do ANYTHING that is illegal somehow, even if it is not a crime but braking some contract of gmail :)10:41
poofyhairhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA?highlight=%28dma%2910:41
W_DraGoN"no core pointer"10:41
garyc_poofyhair: It is a cw068d cyberdrive cdr 36x10:41
W_DraGoN"fatal server error, failed to initialize core devices"10:41
garyc_poofyhair: I have tried K3b - gnomebaker - Nautilus  the cd just wont burn.  It gives no error.  just hangs   any idea10:41
poofyhairtry to turn DMA on10:41
Magillamplayer doesn't show up in Synaptic, but it's on the packages.ubuntu.com site.  Is there a reason for this?10:41
enyc  /last10:41
after8W_DraGoN> mouse problem.... paste you xorg.conf to pastebin if you can.....10:41
W_DraGoNim on winbloze, since I dont know what else to do10:41
W_DraGoNafter8: I tried moving it over an dover and over, and reconfiguring it doesnt work10:41
oO[NOVA] Oogod is real, unless defined an integer.10:42
poofyhairhe dragon10:42
MadpilotMagilla: do you have the Universe/Multiverse repos enabled?10:42
W_DraGoNit worked flawless when install clean from CD10:42
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Uruclefhere I am!10:42
after8Magilla> enable multiverse?10:42
poofyhairI had same problem10:42
W_DraGoNbut failed since patch x_X10:42
poofyhairwhat mouse do you have?10:42
Uruclefpoofyhair, which command should I run?10:42
W_DraGoNlet me copy the line of the mouse10:42
CossinsSeveas: right... and stfu'ing would be appropriate for you right now - I have a pretty good idea how to configure X, and if I hadn't, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg would have done it for me. Alas, it didn't.10:42
linnerpoofyhair, i'm just going to let synaptic install gnomebaker10:42
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after8W_DraGoN> its a glitch and you can iron it out.....10:42
W_DraGoN"configure mouse, cannot open input device" preinit failed for input device " configure mouse"10:42
linnerafter8, did you get  your question answered?10:42
thenukeghostdog: http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html10:42
W_DraGoNok, tips? since im a total noob to linux :P10:42
SeveasCossins, you'd better stfu yourself instead of pointless ranting10:42
W_DraGoNinstalled today10:42
poofyhairuruclef: I would run "top"10:42
MagillaI have all the repositories enabled10:42
W_DraGoNand burned yesterday10:42
poofyhairthen start the gdesklets thing10:43
oO[NOVA] OoW_DraGoN: ouch10:43
after8W_DraGoN> search google for ext2fsfor windows, that way you can access your xorg.conf from zindope10:43
Uruclefand then? :)10:43
W_DraGoNoO[NOVA] Oo: yeah, had the stupidity to install the breezy version10:43
W_DraGoNinsteath of a stable one :P10:43
CossinsSeveas: I know several people coming from a hardcore gentoo background who are unable to make X.org work atm, and believe me - we had our share of X.org problems with gentoo10:43
after8linner> dunno.... the fstab one about /etc ? nope10:43
W_DraGoNafter8: going10:43
SeveasCossins, gentoo isn't ubuntu.10:43
poofyhairuruclef: see if "python" starts to eat up all the CPU10:43
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CossinsSeveas: I'm not ranting, you are dismissing real bugs as user stupidity, which in this case is as wrong as it gets10:43
after8W_DraGoN> breezy will be fine soon, and you get to learn some stuff while you're at it ;)10:44
poofyhairdragon: I fixed with this guide personally:10:44
oO[NOVA] OoW_DraGoN: i was referring to the burned word10:44
SeveasCossins, if it's a bug, file it10:44
linnerafter8, oh lord... I so wish I could help ..... :(10:44
poofyhairhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6547110:44
Seveasdon't come ranting in here.10:44
W_DraGoNafter8: I hope :P10:44
after8linner> heheh no matter, it works, i'm happy :D10:44
W_DraGoNoO[NOVA] Oo: lmao, I mean burning CD10:44
W_DraGoNafter8: is this the program? http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html <--10:44
linnerafter8, have you tried installing breezy on a laptop?10:44
garyc_poofyhair: hey poofyhair do you have a second to test my ftp server I just set up10:44
poofyhairok10:44
CossinsSeveas: i can't, because I have no reliable error output, no explanations, no steps to reproduce10:44
Uruclefpoofyhair, I forgot I had uninstalled it10:44
after8linner> breezy upgrade from hoary yes.. i type on it in X as we speak ;)10:44
UruclefI'll reinstall and tell you :)10:44
after8W_DraGoN> looking10:44
CossinsSeveas: a bug report would be as useful as a software patent10:45
linnerafter8, on a mac or a win machine?10:45
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poofyhairuruclef: if not superkaramba is quite portable!10:45
W_DraGoNwanted to use linux to use the "marvelous" 64 bit world..10:45
W_DraGoNand so bad.. IM NOT HAPPY :P10:45
Magillaif I download the deb packages, what is the best way to install them?10:45
W_DraGoNso far I mean10:45
after8W_DraGoN> you will.... dont worry ;)10:45
poofyhairoh....10:45
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linnerafter8, I've got a compaq v2000z and i'm having such a hard time... the only install I can get going is mepis... and I hate it!10:45
after8Magilla> dpkg -i .deb10:45
poofyhairyou use the 64 bot one10:45
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SeveasNo reliable output? what happend to all the fontpath errors you were complaining about? No steps to reproduce? You said it always fails when satrting...10:45
Uruclefsupercaramba? what is it? sorry, I'm a new :/10:45
enycmagi: generally, dont download debs, use 'apt-get' or synaptic to install then10:45
catfoxmorning all10:46
after8hehe linner because of hardware issues?10:46
W_DraGoNWish they could do a "translation" engine to make linux read and write from NTFS and viceversa :P10:46
enycmagi: howeve,r you CAN 'sudo dpkg -i [filename] .deb'10:46
after8W_DraGoN> this one --->   http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd10:46
W_DraGoNits annoying to have to boot from one side, zip them, mail them and ten receive from other place ;P10:46
linnerafter8, haven't a clue... kubuntu gets all the way to the login screen then freezes10:46
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linnerafter8, ubuntu simply won't let me do anything because a part of it "fails"10:46
poofyhairdragon: thats MSes fault10:46
W_DraGoNafter8: I supose just ext2fsd?10:46
after8linner> no eror message? it installs ok, reboots then crashes on login screen?10:46
W_DraGoNpoofyhair: considering how bullcrap bill gates is10:46
enycw_drag: there is a win32 driver for reading ext2/3.. there is a linux driver for reading NTFS10:46
W_DraGoNall the problems of the world are MS related :P10:47
Magillaenyc: neither synaptic or apt-get can see the packages10:47
after8W_DraGoN> yep... install and you can see your linnux drivers :)10:47
W_DraGoNMS = will eat all competitors10:47
W_DraGoNif not force them abnkrupt :P10:47
enycmagi: are the packages in any repositories?10:47
W_DraGoNbank rupt even10:47
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garycpoofyhair: are you getting this10:47
ompaulenyc: yes10:47
poofyhairuruclef: look here:10:47
CossinsSeveas: yes, but it turned out that problem was in the .deb - the fonts.alias file didn't get installed, because for some reason dpkg didn't extract the part of the deb which was supposed to go into /etc10:47
linnerafter8, honestly, it was 3 installs ago and I can't remember the exact error... but yeah... it reboots fine, then crashes at the login screen10:47
poofyhairhttp://freshmeat.net/projects/superkaramba/10:47
ompaulW_DraGoN: stop trolling10:47
W_DraGoNI dont know why I read "repositories" as "supositories" lol10:47
after8!tell Magilla about repositories10:47
poofyhairgaryc: no10:47
W_DraGoNIm trolling? o_O10:47
Uruclefpoofyhair: let's see10:47
enycmagi: like, where did you get these pkgs from anyway?10:47
W_DraGoNthis guy must be a noob if he thinks im trolling10:47
catfoxis there a way of pinging a machine for n hours? - i need to get a total number of dropped packets from a server for the end of the day10:47
CossinsSeveas: completely unrelated to the problem, it isn't X.org that is broken, it's the .debs10:47
after8W_DraGoN> :   <beavis> huh huh huh hu huh >/beavis>10:47
garycpoofyhair: do you have a second to test my ftp server10:48
linnerafter8, what's trolling?10:48
SeveasCossins, if dpkg didn't extract a part of the deb (which I find highly unlikely), file a bug against it10:48
after8Cossins> in breezy????10:48
poofyhairyeah...but I suck at IRC10:48
Uruclefpoofyhair: but it's for KDE.. I don't like it :/10:48
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CossinsSeveas: "highly unlikely"... will you please?10:48
Cossinsafter8: yes10:48
poofyhairso how do I get link?10:48
linnerphazeman, welcome10:48
after8linner> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll10:48
CossinsSeveas: I had to open the deb in mc and copy the files manually10:48
W_DraGoNafter8: okey, downloading10:48
SeveasCossins, sure...10:48
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after8Cossins> yeah, it is a bit sticky on upgrade... but is isn't stable yet.....10:49
ompaulW_DraGoN: in my books - suggesting that the crud from marketing hell will eat or beat all is trolling, and invites people like me to tell people like you to get real10:49
linnerafter8, thanks :)10:49
W_DraGoNafter8: I never knew that getting annoyed at Bill gates was "trolling" :P10:49
CossinsSeveas: yeah, with that attitude you are surely going to fix those bugs...10:49
poofyhairuruclef: I'm a big gdesklets and superkramba user (gnome desktop) and I can tell you that even if you get them to work gdesklets eat up RAM and are buggy. Superkaramba eats RAM, but its less buggy10:49
sPYder---i need help with software installation... ie. wine10:49
SeveasCossins, neither is your attitude helping.10:49
poofyhairif gdesklets don't work, don't be scared of KDE stuff.10:49
W_DraGoNompaul: time to upgrade your books, we're not in the 19XX's10:49
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catfoxany ideas about that, pls?10:49
garyclinner: do you have a second to check my ftp server10:49
after8non ubuntu help discussions can be had on #ubuntu-offtopic.........10:50
poofyhairspyder: what do you need in particular?10:50
linnergaryc, um... I can try... you'll have to tell me what you'd like me to do though10:50
CossinsSeveas: the problem here is that we have a real problem, and some admin thinks it's because his users are stupid10:50
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Uruclefpoofyhair: ok! Anyway, python runs. But I still get empty window, or no window at all. I'll try superkaramba, if it runs on gnome.10:50
phazemanhi linner10:50
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linner:)10:50
catfoxor will ping just keep running until i kill it?10:50
poofyhairit does10:50
garyclinner try 68.89.129.129 just try anonymous10:50
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linnerpl10:51
W_DraGoNafter8: okey I think its installed now10:51
linneroops10:51
linnerok wait one garyc10:51
W_DraGoNnow.. what do I do?10:51
after8W_DraGoN> ok, find your xorg.conf file in /etx/X11 and paste it to pastebin10:51
linnergaryc, it says the connection is refused10:51
poofyhairspyder: look at this link:10:51
poofyhairhttp://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html10:51
sartekcan sombody tell me what is the method to patch a file with patch.diff?10:51
poofyhairits better to use Linux osftware taen mess with WINE if you can10:51
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Uruclefpoofyhair: ok, I'll try it. But i think I'll need some help, anyway :D10:51
Seveassartek, patch -p0 < patch.diff10:52
garyclinner im opening a tab to you10:52
linnergaryc, actually i'm sorry i used the wrong protocol10:52
Cossinsdooglus managed to help me narrow the problem down to the debs involved, last night10:52
poofyhairsuperkaramba is in synaptic!10:52
sartekthx10:52
linnergaryc, it gives me a username and pass... tried anonymous and then it demanded a pass10:52
after8poofyhair> not a very up to date version tho.10:52
poofyhairok.10:52
W_DraGoNok give me a hand after810:52
poofyhairthen here is my personal one:10:52
poofyhairhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3318310:53
linnergaryc, what password do you want me to use?10:53
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garyclinner use yur email as user and anonymous as the pass10:53
W_DraGoNnot for that.. pervert ;P10:53
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linnergaryc, ok10:53
sPYder---poofy... i want to install wine... but i dont know how... i have hard time understanding the installation steps10:53
linnergaryc, nope ... login incorrect10:53
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SeveassPYder---, apt-get install wine10:54
linnergaryc, alert... 530... incorrect login10:54
garyclinner if that dont work go to the tab i open to you next to ubuntu down at the bottom of your screen10:54
after8W_DraGoN> ok.... you found the file yet?10:54
KimahriSeveas: ping10:54
Uruclefpoofyhair: I installed it. How do I start it? I can't see it in the menu.10:54
sPYder---but how? is there a newbie channel here for ubuntu? im scared asking newbie questions here10:54
SeveasKimahri, pong10:54
linnergaryc, there is not another tab10:54
poofyhairspyder: use synaptic10:54
W_DraGoNafter, you're not receiving any private messages?10:54
linnerjust #ubuntu10:55
poofyhairhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto?highlight=%28synaptic%2910:55
KimahriSeveas: i'm trying to download the nxclient off of your server, but i'm getting '401 unauthenticated'10:55
W_DraGoNsPYder---: im a total noob, dont worry too much10:55
W_DraGoNjust fire away10:55
garycok try agora for the user and agoramin as the pass10:55
linnerok10:55
SeveasKimahri, planning to use it on breezy?10:55
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W_DraGoNafter8 : I sent you some Pms, I supose you didnt received them?10:55
garyclinner: ok try agora for the user and agoramin as the pass10:55
poofyhairuruclef: type the word in the "run" box10:55
KimahriSeveas: i have a hoary box and one breezy tester10:55
sPYder---the easiest for me to install is the ubuntu OS itself T_T10:55
poofyhairsuperkaramba10:56
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after8W_DraGoN> ahh nope...... proxy power :/10:56
sPYder---but not its software T_T\10:56
rigelis there some file i can look at to determine optimal putty settings to connect to y ubuntu box10:56
poofyhairspyder: did you see my link?10:56
rigeli know its not an ubu-specific question10:56
after8W_DraGoN> it your nick registered?10:56
Magillawhere do I put sources.list?10:56
W_DraGoNduuuh10:56
garyclinner did you get that10:56
SeveasKimahri, for hoary, download the one from nomachine.com, for breezy you need mine (includes a patched path to xauth)10:56
after8s/it/is10:56
W_DraGoNafter8: nope10:56
linnergaryc, i'm in10:56
W_DraGoNaaand...10:56
Uruclefpoofyhair: ok thanks :)10:56
W_DraGoNlet me cut & paste what I told you10:56
sPYder---what is the official forum site here?10:56
KimahriSeveas: for some reason, the one from nomachine wont work10:56
poofyhairno problem10:56
W_DraGoN<W_DraGoN> Im confused, should I  "Mount" the drive?10:56
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W_DraGoN<W_DraGoN> I Got 2 hdds10:57
W_DraGoN<W_DraGoN> one of 80 Gigs for main windows, and other of 250 Gigs pratitioned in 3 ( 200 Gig for windows base files, 30 Gigs for linux and 1 gig for "share"10:57
after8W_DraGoN> ok, in #flood10:57
W_DraGoNk10:57
SeveasKimahri, mine won't work on hpary due to that patch.10:57
poofyhairinstalling software in Breezy is SOOOOOOOO easy10:57
poofyhairnow10:57
garyclinner: excellent this is the first time I have ever setup an ftp server10:57
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linnergaryc, congrats!10:57
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linneryou done good kid10:57
KimahriSeveas: which one do i get?  the .deb version?10:57
W_DraGoNYAY!!! *leechs gary's bandwitch*10:57
SeveasKimahri, yes10:57
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linner:)10:58
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garyclinner: do you mind uploading a file jsut as a test10:58
linnersure10:58
linnergive me a second10:58
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linnergaryc, no probs at all10:58
xuniluserHelp: How do i access shared resources from other Linux machines?10:58
linnergaryc, you're all good!10:58
W_DraGoNyou know, after struggling with ubuntu at @60 Hz mode of monitor settings, Im still dizzy :P10:59
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W_DraGoNrarely, had to reinstall my winbloze drivers too :P10:59
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garyclinner did you up load a file.  what name?10:59
Seveasxuniluser, places->connect to server10:59
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W_DraGoNim at 90 Hz atm10:59
W_DraGoN<-- Viewsonic G75f+10:59
Uruclefpoofyhair: it seems to run! thank you a lot :)10:59
W_DraGoNsmall, but works :>10:59
poofyhairno problem11:00
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W_DraGoN*rubs rubs his monitor* my.. precious....11:00
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linnergaryc, hold on a sec11:00
linnergaryc, .esd_auth11:00
dffcan you get firfox beta thru apt?11:00
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Seveasdff, no11:00
Magillawhere do I find the sources.list file?11:00
linnergaryc, it was small and I thought I could give you immediate feedback11:01
dffok11:01
Seveas/etc/apt/sources.list11:01
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Magillathanks11:01
W_DraGoNenyc: can we be friends? :P11:01
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poofyhairI miss ubuntuguide11:01
W_DraGoNI'll steal your monitors, while we friendily talk :D11:01
linnergaryc, I have closed the FTP connections11:01
sPYder---poof teach me to install wine plzzzz11:01
Seveaspoofyhair, :|11:01
linneroops connection11:01
Seveaswhat's to miss...11:01
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poofyhairI good sources.list11:02
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poofyhairA11:02
linnerhey ya'll what's the command to "refresh a panel"11:02
garyclinner thats funny I dont see a file named .esd_auth in your folder11:02
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Seveas!sources11:02
ubotumethinks sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)11:02
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poofyhairand a good fstab line11:02
Seveas^-- poofyhair11:02
linnerso that the install I just did will show up11:02
Seveasfstab lines for what?11:02
linnergaryc, let me check my download folder11:02
W_DraGoNAnyone here knows how to use the program ext2fsd ?11:02
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poofyhairbah11:02
poofyhairwho cares about official repos at first11:02
W_DraGoNfux.. 4:00 am in the morninig x_X11:02
after8linner> gnome or kde?11:02
poofyhairthe gold is in the backports extras11:02
linnergaryc, hmm... you're right... I don't have the file11:02
Seveasrofl11:02
Seveasthe dirt too11:02
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poofyhairtrue11:03
linnergaryc, it showed it was downloading this is weird11:03
linnerafter8, gnome11:03
Seveasand these repos are included in those lists11:03
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Seveasjust not enabled by default (which is good)11:03
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garyclinner I meant to upload from you  up to the site11:03
linneroh... upload?11:03
linnergaryc, hmmm... i was just using firefox11:03
poofyhairIts cool11:04
linnergaryc, let me open an ftp program ... just a minute11:04
poofyhairdon't need the guide as much11:04
Uruclefok guys11:04
UruclefI leave11:04
Uruclefbye all!11:04
garyclinner do you have an ftp client11:04
garyclinner oops   ok11:04
linnergaryc, yeah i sure do11:04
linnergaryc, wait one11:04
poofyhairnot with this:11:04
poofyhairhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6656311:04
poofyhairI use that instead of guide now11:04
after8linner> restart X...... or run it in a shell.11:04
poofyhairlong live unofficial Ubuntu11:04
linnergaryc, give me the stats11:05
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linnerafter8, what is restart x11:05
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linnergaryc, i need the ftp address11:05
poofyhairlinner: hit alt+ctrl+backspace at same time11:05
garyclinner agora - agoramin11:05
Seveaspoofyhair, ewwwwwww that looks like awful crud11:05
after8linner>  it restartq the graphic server (X)...11:05
linnerpoofyhair, thanks11:05
garyclinner 68.89.129.12911:05
linnergaryc, thanks11:05
poofyhairlooks aren't the best.11:05
poofyhairwaht it can do with clicks is amazing11:06
Kimahrilinner: that's the bad way of restarting X.  back out to a console (ctrl+alt+f1), then type 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart'11:06
sPYder---how would i know if the software was installed???????11:06
Seveashmm, at least you can select what it should do11:06
Seveasso it's not all bad11:06
linnergaryc, see if you see a nin-ticket.jpg on your desktop11:06
linnerKimahri, oh okay... i didn't know what x is...11:06
poofyhairplus the creator is really bright11:06
linnerthank you!11:06
garyclinner yes I do!!!11:07
garyclinner  it works!!11:07
sPYder---poofy how would i know if the software was installed???????11:07
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sPYder---where to see the icon?11:07
poofyhairif WINE was installed?11:07
sPYder---yes11:07
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after8linner: Nine Inch Nails? :DDDDDDDDDDD11:08
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poofyhairwell.....for most oyu look in the panel11:08
linnerwell that was fun... i didn't know it was going to crap out everything11:08
poofyhairin the applications place11:08
linnerafter8, yep!11:08
poofyhairI think with WINE too11:08
poofyhairmenu11:08
linnerafter8, sellin' it on ebay11:08
poofyhairnot place11:08
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Seveaspoofyhair, bug found in Automatix :)11:08
Seveasseveral bugs even11:08
linnerpoofyhair, but it worked... thank you! i have my gnome baker showing up now11:08
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poofyhairseveas: email him if you can about it11:09
poofyhairvery new project, so it would help a lot11:09
poofyhairof PM whatever11:09
SeveasI don't use forums11:09
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Seveasso you happen to know his address?11:09
poofyhairhow about email?11:09
after8linner> whens the concert???11:09
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boknoy_jrunsaon man ni nako?11:09
KimahriSeveas: i'm still having issues starting the nx client.  i'm getting a nice big error screaming at me that some libstdc++ file is missing11:10
mrchicagoanyone know of any  good deb repos11:10
boknoy_jrdli ko kabalo mo add ug lain nag software?11:10
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mrchicagoi can add in /etc/apt/sources.lst11:10
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poofyhairgreyrod@gmail.com11:10
poofyhairis his email11:10
linner10/111:10
linnersorry.. after8 it's on 10/111:10
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boknoy_jroi tabang mo beh11:10
after8shame you aint going.....11:10
boknoy_jrtabang mo diha11:10
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linnerafter8, why?11:10
after8boknoy_jr> what language is that?11:11
linnerafter8, i have to go out of town... can't make it11:11
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VictoRbisaya11:11
SeveasKimahri, right, install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.211:11
linnerafter8, that's exactly what I was thinking11:11
boknoy_jryes11:11
boknoy_jrbisaya11:11
after8linner> shame!!!11:11
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boknoy_jrvictor tabang diha11:11
oO[NOVA] Ooknow of a recommended bittorrent client on ubuntu, aside from the simple bittornado client? i need something with a nice list of files being downloaded, not one window per download11:11
Seveasboknoy_jr, stick to english in here11:11
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linnerafter8, dude it's for work :(11:11
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linnerafter8, wanna go???11:11
linner:)11:11
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gfunckerspastilan dolor11:11
gsuvegre11:11
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poofyhairazeurus11:11
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gfunckersboknoy_jr,  marosing hahah na ban11:12
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Seveasgfunckers, english please..11:12
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gfunckersops11:12
sPYder---how to access root??11:12
gfunckerssorry11:12
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after8hehe11:12
after8ouch11:12
oO[NOVA] Oopoofyhair: oh.. azureus, you mean?11:12
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SeveassPYder---, sudo11:12
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Seveas!sudo11:12
ubotuI heard sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo11:12
gfunckersboknoy_jr,  go to #ubuntu-ph for filipino like me11:12
poofyhairyeah11:12
Delgul_at_workHey... is there *any* reason why a debmirror sync would be refused on security.ubuntu.com? I can browse it with firefox, but get a connection refused when using debmirror. I also had this all of a sudden with nl.archive.ubuntu.com. I switched that one to de.archive.ubuntu.com and all is fine there now! This can not be a coincidence....11:12
linnerYEA!!!!!!!  I'm burning my first IS0 in Linux.. :)11:12
linnerpoofyhair, thank you so much for your help!11:13
poofyhairno problem11:13
linnerpoofyhair, had to go with gnomebaker but it works just fine11:13
linnerpoofyhair, to me a burner is a burner11:13
poofyhairgood deal11:13
poofyhairme too11:13
poofyhairI use K3B cause it works11:13
Kimahrilinner: easy way to do this from command line:  apt-get install cdrecord, then 'cdrecord dev=/dev/hd<??> /path/to/iso/file'11:13
poofyhairuse what works11:13
linnerKimahri, gosh where did you learn all the commands????11:13
after8i like k3b cos it has done mp3 to audio since i started on linux (newbieland)11:14
linnerpoofyhair, so far it looks like baker is working just fine... i'll let you know after the ISO has burned ... rather baked11:14
gsuvegfor dualhead i need enable xinerama module in xorg ?11:14
after8linner>  lol...11:14
Kimahrilinner: my main workstation runs Gentoo, so i had to learn some cli stuff to install it11:14
linnerafter8, are you still in France?11:14
after8linner> yep....11:14
poofyhairgsuveg: what video card do oyu have?11:15
linnerKimahri, ahhh.... okay... i'm just a wannabe at this point... i need all the gui stuff first ... then will learn the commands11:15
linnerafter8, when is the company closing?11:15
gsuvegpoofyhair: i810 in my notebook11:15
KimahriSeveas: you are a god.  it runs now, but somebody should put up a nice BIG warning that says that 'package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 is a required dependency' or something11:15
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linnerafter8, you didn't tell me if you installed ubuntu on a PC or a MAC11:16
oO[NOVA] Oogod is real unless declared an integer11:16
poofyhairbest dual monitor document on web for Linux:11:16
poofyhairhttp://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Monitors11:16
poofyhairall works good in Ubuntu11:16
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gsuvegpoofyhair: thansk a lot11:16
gsuvegpoofyhair: if not clear, can i ask?11:16
linnerpoofyhair, I like your nic :)11:16
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poofyhairthanks11:17
dffI downloaded this theme11:17
oO[NOVA] Ooyes, i like your network card too, poofyhair.11:17
dffhttp://ardchoille.org/themes/gdm/southwest.tar.gz11:17
linnerpoofyhair, sure11:17
poofyhairon the forums is "poofyhairguy"11:17
dffbut the theme manager wouldn't install it?11:17
gsuvegpoofyhair: it need works right ?11:17
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poofyhairsure11:17
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gsuvegnow the 'clone' is works11:17
after8linner> never touched a mac in my life...... and 31st january, date confirmed yesterday11:17
W_DraGoNhey guys, one question to anyone answers it11:17
W_DraGoNwhere are the "erorr logs" of X11 ?11:17
W_DraGoNerror even11:17
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ronaldepitti: could you explain how upstream translations get integrated in to the language packages? (I'm a member of the DutchTeam)11:18
poofyhairgsuveg: look at the use xinerama part11:18
dffSeveas: is there a place i can get a deb of firefox beta?11:18
dffor apt repo11:18
pittironalde: right now they have to be updated in the source package first11:18
pittironalde: later you can throw them into Rosetta11:18
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pittironalde: I will build new language packs soon anyway11:19
linnerafter8, really???  oh wow.... macs are the bomb... but linux is slowly becoming my OS of choice....11:19
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derkdo ubunto (LINUX) can support for games??11:19
linnerafter8, oh great... right after Christmas...11:19
poofyhairdff: you don't need it11:19
NilXuBlueEagle: are you on>?11:19
linnerafter8, what version of ubuntu did you install?11:19
ronaldepitti: so now i should update the my upstream translations manually in Rosetta?11:19
poofyhairdff: just use the normal file11:19
derk do ubunto (LINUX) can support for games??11:20
pittironalde: either that, or update the source package; the latter will always work11:20
W_DraGoNafter8: you got all the info you needed?11:20
poofyhairderK: wht games?11:20
pittironalde: but if they are upstream, why not just do a new release and ask us to package it?11:20
poofyhairhttp://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-1.5b1&os=linux&lang=en-US11:20
derkpoofyhair: for local games and online games?11:20
ronaldepitti: i'll have to ask the upstream-maintainer?11:21
dffpoofyhair: um sorry explai11:21
poofyhairderK: well...it can play Linux games liek that. Its can't play Windows games like that.11:21
poofyhairdff: look at my last link11:21
pittironalde: oh, I thought you are an upstream for a package; of course you can also send the translations directly to him11:21
dff:)11:21
pittironalde: but uploading them into Rosetta is easiest for now11:21
NilXuis requiring a bios flash reason enough to report a bug?11:22
poofyhairjust unzip it anywhere in home, and click on "firefox" in the folder11:22
poofyhairand tell it to "run"11:22
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derkhow run the games??? we've try to install but it dosent run11:22
ronaldepitti: thanx ... already filed a bug in Malone though ... should I clear it?11:22
W_DraGoNduuohhh, I think he crashed?11:22
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dealthello11:22
zxsykcoAhoy!11:22
poofyhairI must sleep11:23
poofyhairnite11:23
pittironalde: not necessary, adding the translations to the source package is a good idea anyway11:23
dealthow can i know what package does libtag_c.so.0 belongs?11:23
W_DraGoNnoite poofy11:23
derkso with the web cam... can we use on it?? with yahoo msgr??11:23
Jhairdealt: dpkg -S lib...11:23
elad`I have one HDD, the Ubuntu 5.04 ISO on it, and a floppy drive. Can I work with this to get it installed side by side with WinXP?11:23
W_DraGoNanyone can tell me in wich directory  the X11 stores its "error logs"  of when it starts?11:23
NilXudealt: hi11:23
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W_DraGoNelad: I would use "partition magic" to resize your NTFS drive size11:23
aftertafW_DraGoN> /var/log/xorg.n.log11:23
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aftertafboing!!!11:23
derkdo anyone can answer my questions?11:24
W_DraGoNty aftertaff11:24
grisingscake11:24
grisingsups11:24
elad`W_DraGoN, ok, and then?11:24
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cakemorning ppl11:24
NilXuis requiring a bios flash reason enough to report a bug? dont everybody answer at once11:24
cakei just installed the 5.10 pr release on my laptop11:24
ronaldepitti: what about the ubuntu additions to gnome which don't have(?) public sources and aren't in Rosetta (like 'update-manager')?11:24
cakeworks great so far11:24
W_DraGoNelad: then resize to give an empty partition at least 10GB for your linux11:24
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aftertafW_DraGoN> can be done with gparted too......;)11:25
W_DraGoNthen install linux directly from the cd? :P11:25
W_DraGoNaftertaf: well I go for what I know, and since im a winbloze user, then partition magic is my key :P11:25
elad`W_DraGoN, the installing a CD without being able to burn it to a CD is the part I'm uncertain of. How do I do that?11:25
cakejust wondering though, where can i find a complete repositories list for this version?11:25
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aftertafW_DraGoN> totally ;)   i used gparted first time 2 days ago ;)11:25
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W_DraGoNyou cant burn a cd? o_O11:25
aftertaf!tell cake about repositories11:25
W_DraGoNI repeat, I swear every time I see "repositories" , I read it as "supositories" :P11:26
dealtJhair: thanks11:26
W_DraGoNIe, anal pills :P11:26
elad`I don't have a burner available.11:26
W_DraGoNelad`: then honestly, I dont know x_X11:26
W_DraGoNI know there are other forms of installin11:26
dealtNilXu: yep?11:26
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W_DraGoNbut im a noob of linux myself11:26
elad`Can anyone else help?11:26
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rejdenW_DraGoN, that's a good start ;)11:26
JOSEPHHI11:26
NilXudealt: ?11:27
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nationi cant apt-get install any packet?11:27
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cakeperfect :)11:27
JOSEPHHI11:27
pittironalde: hmm, if they are not in rosetta, that's a bug11:27
cakethc aftertaf11:27
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cakethx*11:27
aftertafJOSEPH> need help? just ask11:27
cake;)11:27
deFryskelad`, I believe its possible to install first debian with floppie and then upgrade it online to ubuntu11:27
aftertaf;) cake11:27
nationhow can i apt vlc?11:28
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pittironalde: I ask carlos about it11:28
concept10Has anyone installed the new free version of Opera?  I just did and recieved some Java error:        There is a problem with the order of loading Xt and11:28
concept10       Java.  If Xt is loaded before libawt (part of Java),11:28
concept10       Java will crash when it tries to access the screen11:28
W_DraGoNrejden: good start of what? :P11:28
concept10whoops11:28
aftertafnation> apt-get install vlc11:28
ronaldepitti: i'll try to make a list11:28
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concept10any suggestions?11:28
JOSEPHKOGHY11:29
W_DraGoNconcept10: burn java with fire ;P11:29
aftertafconcept10> apart from starting a browser war, nope ;)11:29
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W_DraGoNjk lol11:29
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nationyes i did that but sources.list whitch servers i write there11:29
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JOSEPHqmosta kaung mga pilipino11:29
JOSEPHmay pilipino ba d211:29
elad`deFrysk, what about another way?11:29
sPYder---joseph11:29
carlosronalde, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+sources/update-notifier/+pots/update-notifier11:30
carlosronalde, it's there....11:30
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JOSEPHhi spyder11:30
pittironalde: carlos just told me that it is there11:30
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W_DraGoNfux, im falling asleep x_X11:30
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concept10aftertaf: ive been using firefox/thunderbird for the longest.  I think I want to have everything in one window..11:30
W_DraGoNquick.. pillow! :P11:31
W_DraGoNsince I touched firefox, I havent left it to be honest11:31
W_DraGoNonly use IE when its need for "propietary " style websites11:31
ronaldepitti: ok ... ubuntu's world is a fast world indeed! I'll continue to try the other packages... thanks!11:31
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ronaldecarlos: thanks11:32
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er4z0rwhat do the number in the linknames in rc.<something> mean?11:33
JOSEPHiam loking for a girl becouse i have no gf11:33
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er4z0rJOSEPH: then your ok with linux11:33
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JOSEPHyes11:33
W_DraGoNtroll anyone? :P11:33
mrchicagoarent we all11:33
er4z0r;)11:33
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SeveasW_DraGoN: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct11:34
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W_DraGoNwow, you cant even do jokes? :/11:34
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David_Whello all11:35
JOSEPHh3llow 211:35
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SeveasW_DraGoN, this is a serious support channel, for general chatter you'd better use #ubuntu-offtopic11:36
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W_DraGoNmaybe you should read the general text that is typed here... because quite a few is offtopic11:37
W_DraGoNnot only me11:37
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W_DraGoNbrb gotta configure that, ftertaff helping me11:37
JOSEPHfuck you tongmaster11:38
JOSEPHjoke only11:38
ronaldepitti: "Administrator help needed. gnome-app-install has not yet been setup for translation through Rosetta."11:38
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pitticarlos: ^ ??11:38
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carlosronalde, URL?11:39
conrad_hi, am i registered or not?11:39
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ronaldecarlos: https://launchpad.net/products/gnome-app-install/+translations11:39
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conrad_am confused :~(11:39
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Seveasconrad_, you're not identified to services.11:40
conrad_damn, i just don't know how to do it11:40
conrad_i clicked on the register with nick site11:40
Seveas /msg nickserv help register11:40
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conrad_i apologize for my incompetence11:40
twibblermorning all ... where can I download the ubuntu source code ?..11:40
carlosronalde, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy/+sources/gnome-app-install/+pots/gnome-app-install11:40
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conrad_where do i type that?11:41
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Seveasthe same place as you type the text to send11:41
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conrad_?11:41
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conrad_here?11:41
Seveasyes11:41
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carlosronalde, you should look at the distros URL11:42
ronaldecarlos: ok11:42
W_DraGoNok, time to bed, good night all!!11:42
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conrad_REGISTER11:42
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Seveasconrad_, /msg nickserv register a_password_here11:43
gsuveganyone use i810+dualhead ?11:44
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conrad_have i done it?11:45
Seveasyes11:45
aftertafSeveas> a few ppl have mentioned bugs with X.... no corepointer anymore.11:45
conrad_God have mercy11:45
Seveasremember that password carefully and set it as server password in your IRC client11:45
conrad_Thx Seveas11:45
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conrad_where do i find that please?11:46
KimahriSeveas: thanks for pointing me in the right direction on getting the nx client working11:46
SeveasKimahri, np11:46
SeveasI'm fixing the deb package now :)11:46
onkarshindeHas anyone used IBM's JRE on linux? How is it's performance as compared to Sun's JRE?11:46
David_Wyes ihave11:47
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KimahriSeveas: to make it depend on that libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 file?11:47
Seveasyup11:47
Kimahricool11:47
conrad_can i ask a couple questions?11:47
Seveassure11:47
David_Wyes11:47
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Kimahriconrad_: don't ask to ask lol... just do it11:47
onkarshindeDavid_W: Was that an answer to my question?11:47
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David_Wyes i have used the ibm on suse11:48
David_W9.311:48
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conrad_can i, or how can i save all my data, to transfer bookmarks etc to new fresh  breezy install11:48
onkarshindeDavid_W: How is performance?11:48
David_Wit dose seem to be slightly faster on that system11:48
conrad_ok, kimahri, i'm a shy newbie, i'll get the hang of it11:48
wymleft11:49
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Seveasconrad_, are you running hoary now?11:49
conrad_yes11:49
onkarshindeconrad_: Do you need to do fresh install? you can upgrade from hoary to breezy.11:49
conrad_and i want to install new11:49
Seveasthen don't do a fresh install11:49
David_Wbut i have'nt done any real benchmarks11:49
Seveasjust upgrade :)11:49
conrad_i heard it is better to do a fresh install - some people have had problems with upgrade11:49
Seveasnonsense11:49
onkarshindeDavid_W: Thanks anyway. I will try on Ubuntu.11:50
David_Wyes you can upgrade thats the beauty of apt11:50
conrad_nonsense : )11:50
Seveasunless they messed up their hoary systems themself, upgrades are fine.11:50
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Seveasmy systems are warty upgraded to hoary upgraded to breezy..11:50
conrad_well, and this is part of the second question, i also want to create a dual boot11:50
Seveasanyway, gotta go11:50
Seveascya11:50
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onkarshindeconrad_: Do you have dual boot already?11:51
conrad_i have dedicated all 80gig to Ubuntu, which is unnecessarily extravagant11:51
conrad_no11:51
conrad_and i want to have one stable distro and one to learn and experiment on11:51
conrad_that is why i also thought a fresh install would allow me to create a dual-boot11:52
onkarshindeconrad_: Have you allocated a single 80GB partition to Ubuntu?11:52
conrad_yes11:52
Kimahriconrad_: that shouldn't be too awful hard to do11:52
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Kimahriconrad_: but since you're gonna have to repartition the drive, then yes, you're ognna have to freshinstall it11:53
David_Wyou should have at least 3 partitions11:53
conrad_that is what i thought11:53
conrad_but i want to bring bookmarks and emails over to fresh install11:53
David_Wd11:54
conrad_David: 3 partitions? you mean 1 swap and two /home11:54
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Kimahriconrad_: my partition table setup on my gentoo workstation is weird, but that's because it also has windows on it.  hda1 is 40G NTFS, hda2 is 100M /boot (reiserfs), hda3 is 40G / (reiserfs), and hda5 is a 1G swap.  /home can be shared11:54
David_Woh wait my bad11:54
David_Wyour doin dual boot11:54
David_Whuh11:54
onkarshindeconrad_: all your bookmarks and personal settings rest in /home/username folder. So if you can take backup of that it will be good.11:55
conrad_kimahri: how do i save email addresses and bookmarks11:55
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luzhi11:55
xuniluserAnyone using GUI based programming tool in Linux? What's the best?11:55
David_Ware u using firefox11:55
David_Wjust use the export tool if you are11:55
conrad_onkarshinde: great and how do i back up11:55
Kimahriconrad_: use gnome's file roller to backup your /home/<user> directory, then just unpack it when you get the new system up11:56
onkarshindexuniluser: for what kind of programming?11:56
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conrad_firefox, epiphany and opera11:56
brownie17how do i stop totem trying to play a dvd everytime i put it in?11:56
conrad_gnome file roller? where please11:56
Kimahribrownie17: open gnome-volume-manager and untick the 'autoplay DVD' checkbox (or similar)11:56
David_Wi hate that so i switch to xine11:56
ulaasSystem->Prefs->Removoable DEvice and Media11:56
Kimahriconrad_: you might have to intsall it11:56
xuniluseronkarshinde: C,C++, etc. which uses Visual-like environment like MonoDevelop and KDevelop. Are there other apps like these?11:57
onkarshindebrownie17: System->Preferences->Removable Media11:57
Kimahriinstall * (i can't type today11:57
conrad_ah...: )11:57
ulaasAny ideas on bug 15434?11:57
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conrad_Kimahri: what is the name; i typed fileroller in synaptic/search11:58
onkarshindexuniluser: I heard Anjuta is good. Just a good project manager and you can use make from inside it.11:58
Kimahriconrad_: i don't know exactly11:58
Kimahriconrad_: apt-get install ark... it's the same kind of program11:58
onkarshindexuniluser: It is available under universe.11:58
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kikisawaahalooo11:58
Kimahrihello kikisawaa11:58
luzhello11:58
conrad_and with ark i can save /home/directories?11:58
Kimahriconrad_: you can backup anything that you can access11:59
xuniluseronkarshinde: ok thanks :)11:59
kikisawaapaano po ba mag landscape sa office dto sa ubunto linux???11:59
onkarshindeconrad_: fileroller is installed by default. If you right click on a folder you can see 'add to archive'11:59
conrad_yes, believe it or not i have never backed anything up.11:59
conrad_So it is a new learning curve11:59
Kimahrikikisawaa: and in english?11:59
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dealthi! quick q: how to graphical grub?11:59
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David_Wmeaning?12:00
onkarshindeconrad_: Backup is just making a copy for saftey. You can choose to compress the data for less space requirement.12:00
kikisawaai want to use landscape for my doc. wer could i find it???12:00
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David_Woh never mind i got cha12:00
Kimahrikikisawaa: let me look12:00
onkarshindedealt: Quick questions won't get you quick answers. Ecplain in detail.12:00
kikisawaaok thnx12:00
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dealtonkarshinde: i mean how can i use graphics/images/themes in grub?12:01
sn0nhey guys... anyone else having this mouse problem when updating breezy ?12:01
David_Wwhen he boots there is no graphical frambuffer screen12:01
onkarshindekikisawaa: Must be somewhere in Applications->System Tools->Printing where you modify printing preferences.12:01
sn0nX wont start /dev/input/mice = dont exist12:01
kikisawaaKimahri: didto you find it???12:01
David_Wso howto do custom themes and all that12:01
digger3sn0n: I have more problems with the latest updates, no X, no wireless, etc12:02
kikisawaawer i could find page set up???12:02
Kimahrikikisawaa: file - Printer Settings - Properties12:02
digger3sn0n: does X also complain about not being able to load the agp module?12:02
Kimahrikikisawaa: on OpenOffice it's under File -> Printer Settings -> Properties12:02
aftertafSomeone needs to file a bug here...... latest X updates problem on breezy.12:02
onkarshindedealt: grub only supports 16 colour splash (xpm) images. for that you will need to add 'splashimages=pathtosomexpm.gz' to /boot/grub/menu.lst12:02
sn0ndigger3: no?12:03
aftertafyou all have messages about "corepointer"?12:03
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sn0ndigger3: as far as i can tell.. mouse is borked12:03
conrad_thank you kimahri and onkarshinde - i will go and try12:03
aftertaf /input/mice or /psaux12:03
sn0nsame here aftertaf12:03
aftertafsame error.....12:03
assistantshello12:03
conrad_bye12:03
assistantshi12:03
aftertafi dont have the rror but ive spoke to 3 ppl this morning already who do have it.12:03
assistantsfffff12:03
onkarshindekikisawaa: Did you find the Printing tool? Page setup can be found in properties of printer.12:04
sn0ni dont know how to fix it  :-(12:04
sn0ni'll just man up and console for a few.. ;-)12:04
aftertafsn0n> me neither best idea i think.12:04
kikisawaawait12:04
sn0nLoL12:04
kikisawaawere i cn find it?12:04
sn0nwise man say, if X dont work, dont use X.12:04
sn0n;-)12:04
kikisawaa i cnt find it12:04
digger3The firmware for my ipw2200 is missing since today as well, anyone with similar issues? or advice on how to get it?12:05
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onkarshindekikisawaa: Look Into Applications->System Tools or System->Preferences. You should find something related to printer.12:05
aftertafsn0n> totally.   if not X then bitchX ;)12:05
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Hendrichi.. how can i remove a menu entry... the uninstaller did not remove the menu that the application added.... im using Gnome12:09
kikisawaai've gone through with applications > system tools > but i cnt find related to printer12:09
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onkarshindekikisawaa: How about System->Administration?12:11
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thesaltydogwhat's happening with latest update of dbus?? My Xorg server won't start anymore..12:13
Kimahriyay... at least now the freenx system works for me.  but now all i need to do is fina a laptop with a screen larger than 800x600 and i'll be set12:13
thesaltydogit says: failded to initialize core devices..12:13
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crispinthesaltydog: downgrade udev back to -ubuntu1212:14
thesaltydogrealyy??12:14
thesaltydogreally?12:14
crispinsee the bug in the topic12:14
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thesaltydogok...thanks.12:14
kikisawaaok i find it already the printer then what should i do next? how can i do landscape?12:15
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onkarshindekikisawaa: right click on the printer and select properties12:15
dreamstarhi guys, just a question for u. i updated the 5.10 10 minutes ago with the latest updates and the x now doesn't work anymore. anyone with the same problem?12:15
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aboyousifhi all12:16
David_Wseems to be happening to several people12:16
dreamstard'oh!12:16
crispindreamstar: downgrade udev to -ubuntu12 (see the bug in the topic)12:16
dreamstarcrispin so i have to access via console and give which command?12:17
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David_Wunless your a tester or fairly experienced user then stay with the stable releases12:17
kikisawaai've right click and it shows add12:17
kikisawaai've right click and it shows +add12:18
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guest_hello12:19
sn0nhey all...  :-p12:19
dreamstarsorry can u tell me where is the topic exactly?12:19
sn0ntry /topic12:19
sn0n;-)12:19
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sn0nim sorry.. smart ass answer.. but tis the correct one.. ;-)12:19
guest_anyone here12:20
onkarshindekikisawaa: Have you configured the printer?12:20
BockBilbohello12:20
dreamstari mean the topic about the bug concerning the x prob12:20
BockBilbocan anyone tell me if the apt servers are working ok?12:20
David_Wyes read the channel topic12:20
dreamstarok thx12:20
onkarshindeguest_: we all are here. State your question without wasting to more lines in hello and hi.12:20
David_Wit points you to the proper resources12:20
Grant_BockBilbo: all seem to work for me12:21
David_Wnp12:21
guest_uuhm12:21
BockBilboGrant_, dont know why, but when i update the apt db, the connection with the server slows down until it stops downloading data12:21
BockBilbo:S12:21
kikisawaai was nt able to connect my printer now.... coz i dnt nkowhow to network it .. hehehe12:21
BockBilboreally wierd12:21
David_Wyeah darn line wasters...  jk ;-] 12:21
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akjgagaasl12:22
onkarshindekikisawaa: which printer?12:22
David_Wpodcastalley.com rules!12:22
akjgagalolz12:22
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kikisawaamy printer here12:23
BockBilboit must be an issue with my isp12:23
BockBilbothanks for everything12:23
BockBilbobye!12:23
onkarshindekikisawaa: I mean printer manufacture and model?12:24
dreamstarguys i'm looking in bugzilla but i dunno the exact name of the bug, can u tell me pls?12:24
kikisawaafist thing i must do first landscape for my document w/c ive done....12:24
akjgagaheheheh12:24
akjgagawla ni12:24
kikisawaaonkarshinde kikisawaa: I mean printer manufacture and model?>>>> my printer is epson c4512:24
David_Whttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes12:24
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[Wiebel] hmz12:25
dreamstarthx ^^12:25
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oyayihi12:25
[Wiebel] after update breezy it seems that ipw2200 is broken12:25
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[Wiebel] updating12:25
sn0nbrezyupgradenotes read: its unstable, dont complain when it brakes.12:25
[Wiebel] anyone else having this problem?12:25
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thesaltydogXorg problem?12:26
[Wiebel] no12:26
[Wiebel] ipw12:26
[Wiebel] xorg i figured out12:26
[Wiebel] udev issue12:26
thesaltydogyes12:26
Hendrichow can i install the mozilla activeX plugin??? i tried it by viewing a website that requires it..then tries to download but ended up with ERROR 202.. pls help12:26
sn0n[Wiebel] : how'd you fix12:26
[Wiebel] not12:26
[Wiebel] wel fix12:26
oyayigrabe. its my first time to use this mric though i know that it has existed a long time ago. could someone with goof heart help me with this... like how to send a private message12:26
[Wiebel] if X is startert u can do /etc/init.d/udev restart12:26
[Wiebel] and it's fixed12:26
sn0nx wont start12:26
kikisawaahelloo? you still there??12:27
[Wiebel] i know12:27
Hendricoyayi... right click mo lang ang user then open dialog window12:27
[Wiebel] restart and it will12:27
[Wiebel] or12:27
thesaltydogis it fixed forever or just for the current session?12:27
[Wiebel] use /dev/input/mouse112:27
[Wiebel] using /dev/input/mouse1 wil fix it forever12:27
sn0nsec12:27
kikisawaaonkarshinde: what should i do nxt?12:27
[Wiebel] but anyone here using an ipw2200?12:27
sn0n[Wiebel] : that dont even exist  ;-)12:27
[Wiebel] sn0n: what ?12:27
thesaltydogI'm using ipw2100 on lap12:27
[Wiebel] thesaltydog: breezy?12:27
thesaltydogyep12:28
onkarshindekikisawaa: Have you configured your printer?12:28
guest_waz up12:28
sn0ni did the udev thing.. and mouse still isnt found12:28
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[Wiebel] thesaltydog: when have you updated breezy ?12:28
[Wiebel] last time12:28
HaNazirsn0n: i did it and it worked. what exactly did u do?12:28
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thesaltydog2 days ago. I don't have the laptop with me. Some news?12:29
auraxhow can i kill a tty session from ssh12:29
sn0ni typed /etc/init.d/udev restart12:29
sn0nthen startx12:29
[Wiebel] thesaltydog: after updating this morning ipw2200 seems broken12:29
sn0nand bling.. no workie12:29
thesaltydogsn0n, kill >pidnumber>12:29
HaNazirsn0n: nope12:29
HaNazirsn0n: u did the wrong udev thing12:29
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thesaltydogWiebel, bad news...12:29
kikisawaamy printer is still connected from microsoft and my stations are linux12:30
sn0nthen what should i do ?12:30
HaNazirsn0n: try sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/udev_0.060-1ubuntu12_i386.deb12:30
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thesaltydogWiebel,  I cannot ttry until this afternoon.12:30
sn0nk sec12:30
[Wiebel] thesaltydog: that's ok :)12:30
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oyayinakakalito pala ito12:31
oyayianyway, haller mga friends12:31
sjjHi, I have recently upgraded from warty to hoarty, and my wireless has stopped working (even when I boot my old warty kernel). (This is a laptop with an intel pro wireless 2200), now when booting I get: ipw2200: Fatal error, Ipw2200: Status: 0x0000000100, Config: 0000014212:31
sn0nok.. back on the older udev12:31
akjgagahahaha12:31
kikisawaaim concern about were i could change my office from landscape set up and direct print from stations to the server12:31
guest_oyayi hi12:31
sn0nnow ?12:31
sn0nlol12:31
oyayihello12:31
kikisawaamy concern about were i could change my office from landscape set up and direct print from stations to the server12:31
HaNazirsn0n: now sudo killall udev then sudo udev, or just reboot12:31
sn0nkk12:32
oyayidi ko talaga alam mric na ito. too foreign for someone who only knows yahoo12:32
HaNazirlol12:32
HaNazirwindows has brainwashed us to reboot with ease12:32
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sjjAnyone else seen this issue when upgrading ubuntu?12:33
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justehei12:33
HaNazirsjj: which issue?12:33
oyayihey guest, could you teach me how to send a private message to lets say to you. please12:33
sjjHaNazir: see my previous message12:33
onkarshindekikisawaa: Do you mean your printer is connected to server which has windows and you want to print from workstation which is on linux?12:33
apokryphosoyayi: /msg <username>12:33
justeanyone having problems with X after update on Breezy?12:33
gsuveghow can i pactch kernel with ubuntu patch ? im installed linux-kernel-sourcer and ubuntu pacht12:33
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justeI get "No core pointer" error12:34
HaNazirsjj: sorry beyond me12:34
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sverihi, i have a sb audigy soundcard and a sound controller on my tv card (both pci) when i start my computer the modules for tv sound are loaded, but the one for my sb audigy won't load, i can load it after booting, but then my first sound card is the one from the tv controller, how can i load the audigy before the sound from the tv controller?12:34
onkarshindejuste: read the topic of channel. There is a bug mentioned.12:34
HaNazirjuste: no x?12:34
HaNazirjuste: ls /dev/input plz12:34
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kikisawaaonkarshinde kikisawaa: Do you mean your printer is connected to server which has windows and you want to print from workstation which is on linux? >>>>> yha if it do..???  but somehow i cnt still find the landscape.12:35
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justeHaNazir: heh, it's gone12:35
HaNazirwhat is this xhosa?12:35
kikisawaafor the offce doc.12:35
gsuvegah12:35
gsuvegwhere can i find the generic kernel .config file ?12:35
HaNazirjuste: sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/udev_0.060-1ubuntu12_i386.deb12:35
gsuvegwhat in ubuntu is ?12:35
onkarshindekikisawaa: Are you currently able to print from linux box to the printer?12:35
stevephi, is there an irc channel for php?12:36
apokryphosstevep: yes; ##php12:36
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stevepthank a lot12:36
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kikisawaanope12:36
HaNazirjuste: done?12:37
justeHaNazir: thanks!12:37
kikisawaaive done saving the file from the linux through floopy and open it from my server and print12:37
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HaNazirjuste: thank crimsun12:37
HaNazir:)12:37
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kikisawaabut now my customer ask how to landscape his done>?12:38
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kikisawaawhat should i do? about it?>12:38
onkarshindekikisawaa: Beyond my knowledge.12:38
kikisawaai cant find page set up to change for ladscape12:38
kikisawaa=(12:38
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apsyncwhat is a good newsreader program?12:39
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taliosapsync, usenet or blog news?12:40
apsyncusenet12:40
kikisawaahow about the portraite to landscape??? you know about it?12:40
kikisawaaor vise versa12:40
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taliosapsync, both thunderbird and evolution "support" usenet, but for a full-on usenet client, pan is gnome based (great for large binary download/decodes), otherwise slrn for console12:41
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apsyncah ok thank you, gonna give pan a try12:41
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onkarshindekikisawaa: I don't know hoe to share printers on networks.12:41
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kikisawaaits ok for sharing........ only for the page set up? for landscape??12:42
apsynctalios, can I get/install pan with a command in terminal (eg; get-apt install pan) ?12:43
taliosshould be able to - I'm just apt-get'ing it now actually12:44
taliosfrom the main repo12:44
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onkarshindekikisawaa: perhaps you are asking wrong question in wrong manner. So I can't understand your situation at all. Anyway, I have to go.12:44
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apsynchmmm12:45
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apsynccool works,12:45
P-NuTHi all, When is Breezy going to be officially released?12:45
BelutzP-NuT: October 13th12:46
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aftertafdoes the workaround for missing core pointer work for those that have the problem?12:46
goo_How can I actually search for stuff with Beagle?12:46
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spanglesontoastcan thunderbird pick up sendmail?12:47
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rob^anyone have a COMPAQ PRESARIO M2217AP laptop and know how good it works with Ubuntu?12:49
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goo_aha. The program to do searches with beagle is called best ...12:49
goo_dpkg -L beagle is my friend12:50
rob^goo_, yes, it rocks12:50
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BockBilbohello again12:50
concept10rob^: have you tried to use a live cd?  You will have a hard time finding someone with the same laptop in the channel unless its popular12:50
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rob^concept10, yeah i'm going to take one in with me tomorrow12:51
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BockBilbocan anyone tell me if WEP is enabled in the ipw2200 module build in in breezy?12:51
rob^its a cheapie, I thought I might try my luck12:51
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justehm.. downgrading udev helped, but still remains another problem12:54
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justex starts, but no other program12:54
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justei get an initial x screen12:54
langalsHas anyone had experience with using the speex codec with asterisk on ubuntu?12:54
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justegnome-session doesn't start12:54
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xy77juste.. it helped for me to stop udev, remove it from rc.d, start it and add it to rc.d (see ubuntuforums.org); restart was necessary12:55
BETIANYONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO SPEAK TAGALOG?12:55
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juste.xsession-errors show12:55
juste/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...12:55
juste_IceTransTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp12:55
juste_IceTransmkdir: ERROR: euid != 0,directory /dev/X will not be created.12:55
juste_IceTransmkdir: ERROR: Cannot create /dev/X12:55
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justeI bet this is something different than udev12:56
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xy77juste: did you try to shutdown gdm and startx as root?12:56
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justerestarted gdm a couple of times12:57
justeeven rebooted my pc12:57
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BockBilbo:S12:57
aftertafjuste> cant create /dev/X is a symptom of the udev bug.....12:57
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justehm..12:57
Cyberjameshello. how can I share my printer on network? anyone has appreciated idea?12:58
justedamn, but I've downgraded it12:58
jsdphow can i install yahoo messenger12:58
justewhy is it still complaining12:58
justeah.. it works now12:58
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aftertafjuste> was  a bug in older version too.... hmmm12:59
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justeheh, it's funny to fix X failures on a girlfriends laptop over ssh01:01
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justeall this was based on hers comments :)01:01
justethanks a lot, guys! ;)01:01
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aftertafnice one juste :)01:03
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debrisI've got a small problem with my soundcard in Ubuntu. It might just be muted but when I look at the volumesettings there's nothing wrong there.. someone gave me a command a while ago that fixed it, dunno what it was though. I didn't change any setting I just got it installed. You've got any idea of how to fix it?01:07
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aftertafdebris> is aumix installed?01:08
aftertafis the card recognised?01:08
debrisYep01:09
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aftertafcard recognised.... ok. but no sound whatso...?01:10
aftertafinstall aumix and see if pcm or master are muted or at 0% volume01:10
smottturn on the speakers01:10
edselplease help how to install yahoo messeger with ubuntu. im a newbie01:10
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David_WIuse gaim01:10
aftertafedsel> you canuse gaim, it is y! commpatibme01:10
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billy|idledebris: What exactly does it mean, you didn'T change anything but just got it installed? Installed what?01:11
edselwhat is gaim01:11
sverihi, how can i permit my ubuntu to load certain modules at the boot sequence?01:11
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David_WIapt-get install gaim01:11
jero_hi01:11
edselhow do i install gaim01:11
billy|idleedsel: look two lines above :)01:12
apokryphosIt's already installed01:12
David_WIhttp://gaim.sourceforge.net/01:12
aftertafsveri> add them to /etc/modules01:12
debrisI DID turn on the speakers.. and the card is recognised but no sound01:12
aftertafdebris> gnome or kde?01:12
debrisgnome01:12
edselwhere can i find apt-get gaim in my new installed ubuntu01:12
sveriaftertaf: hm, i thought modules in the /etc/modules file will be loaded?01:12
aftertafdebris> try xmms... and change sound engine between alsa, esd, oss etc... see if all are the same01:13
aftertaf"hi, how can i permit"01:13
David_WIlook at your drop down menu01:13
David_WIedsl01:13
aftertaf^^^ what you wanted, no?01:13
aftertafsveri> to stop them, add to blacklist.01:13
aftertaf/etc/hotplug/blasklist01:13
sveriaftertaf: oh fuck, i wanted to stop them beeing loaded, sry, my mistake01:13
sveriok, thank you01:13
aftertafno pb01:14
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jero_I have a problem getting my mx518 mouse working with all 10 buttons within cedega. - So far I managed to disable "cruise control" and make all 10 buttons (including the 2 cruise control buttons) to work within ubuntu for normal apps. I used xvkbd and xbindkeys to let the 2 cruis control buttons and the apps selection button just print a,b,c on the screen when pushed just to test if they work.01:15
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jero_hm01:15
jero_whats the max text lenght allowed in this chat?01:16
nightswim3 inches01:16
sudeephi apeli, how u doing?01:16
debrisSomewhere near 360 huh?01:16
aftertaf!paste01:16
ubotumethinks paste is please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text01:16
aftertaf^^ero01:16
aftertafjero :/01:16
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jero_anyway, when entering cedega, xbindkey --config shows me that xbindkeys isnt accepting any input of the mouse from within cedega. It just doesnt see the buttons presed, hence cant execute the appropriate code. Does anyone know how to fix that?01:18
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punkrockmcduckI broke my badger01:19
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ompaulpunkrockmcduck, read the topic there is a bug in badger smashing X into small pieces01:21
jero_also, i am trying to compile the xorg 6.8.2 sdk for ubuntu, but it wont compile properly. are there any binaries out there ?01:21
punkrockmcduckyeah01:21
punkrockmcduckthat's pretty much what i just did :P01:21
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punkrockmcduckshould I just reinstall?01:22
punkrockmcduckand not...er...dist-upgrade like the thing told me to?01:22
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pablobis it safe to upgrade from hoary to breeze now?01:23
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kemikno01:23
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pablobkemik: any known problems?01:23
aftertafpunkrockmcduck> no need to reinstall.....01:23
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jaspi had mandrake b4...was easy to use...ubuntu has me pulling my hair out :(01:24
aftertafpunkrockmcduck> read bottom of link for a workaround01:24
punkrockmcduckit really won't hurt me if i do, I just installed it on this machine anyway01:24
jasp<<<noob here01:24
aftertafjasp> why is that?01:24
jero_<<< breezy user01:24
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aftertafreiki> now now.......01:24
aftertaf;)01:24
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reikiand it just now dawned on me that if I'm going to go to work... I should probably wear clothing01:24
jaspwell i like to use my box from xdcmp...it logs in but nothing happens01:24
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Alex1hi01:25
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jaspso i goota use old monitor and stuff01:25
reikihahaha01:25
aftertafreiki> does help, yes.. if you want to continue going01:25
kemikwhy not just wait 3 weeks ;)01:25
jero_i would like some more support for not paying a dime pls01:25
aftertafkemik> ive been on it for 2 weeks already.01:25
Alex1someone know what's appen to ubuntuguide.org?01:25
yaowho can tell me how to install the xmms,i can't install according the unbutu01:25
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aftertafyao> sudo apt-get install xmms01:26
chrissturmwhy is gnome screensaver removed again in todays update?01:26
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aftertafchrissturm> broken dependencies maybe..... might be back in an hour01:26
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pablobkemik: my coworker's ubuntu installation just hanged-up, so i was looking how to fix it. but only this hang in 4 months.01:26
yaobut it let me update,and i do it,and it tell me again with some problem,again,again01:27
aftertafpablob> what hangs?01:27
aftertafyao> 'some problem' doenst help us help you. paste the error to #flood channel01:27
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pablobaftertaf: I dunno. no logs. nothing. only this USB mouse saying sthg about interrupt returning -84 status every minute or so01:28
yaookay,and thanks first :)01:28
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aftertafpablob> not on breezy?01:28
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pablobaftertaf: hoary01:28
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kemikpablob:  and it hangs during install of breezy or hoary ?01:28
yaoyao@yao:~$ sudo apt-get install xmms01:29
yaoReading package lists... Done01:29
yaoBuilding dependency tree... Done01:29
yaoPackage xmms is not available, but is referred to by another package.01:29
yaoThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or01:29
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yaois only available from another source01:29
kemikyou really should supply more info01:29
yaoW: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian-marillat_dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)01:29
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yaoW: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian-marillat_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)01:29
kemikyao:   DONT PASTE01:29
aftertafok. has the pc been updated with sec.patches, fixex  & stuff01:29
yaoW: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net testing/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.nerim.net_debian-marillat_dists_testing_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)01:29
yaoW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net warty-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net_ubuntu_dists_warty-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)01:29
aftertafyao> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!01:29
aftertafyao> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!01:29
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yaoW: Couldn't stat source package list http://ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net warty-backports/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ubuntu-bp.sourceforge.net_ubuntu_dists_warty-backports_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)01:29
yaoW: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems01:29
yaoE: Package xmms has no installation candidate01:29
yaosorry01:29
kemik!pastebin01:29
ubotusomebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl01:29
kemikUSE it01:29
aftertafyao> 'some problem' doenst help us help you. paste the error to #flood channel01:29
aftertaf^^^^^^^^^^^^^01:29
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pablobno no. it hanged after 4 months of using it almost daily01:29
kemikpablob:  and now it cant boot ?01:30
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jero_.................01:30
aftertafpablob> try apt-get update + upgrade?01:30
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aftertafyao> you need to enable some more repositories01:30
nhayhi01:30
aftertaf!tell yao about repositories01:30
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pablobit can boot, but I want to prevent another hang. but well, I can wait01:30
kemikyao:  and have you added debian repositories? your system may (and likely will) break if you use debian repos.01:31
pabloband it is up-to-date01:31
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kemikone hangup in 4months is nothing to get excited about ;)01:31
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jero_is there anyone in here who got all 10 buttons of mx510&518 (INCLUDING the cruise control buttons) to work within breezy or hoary?01:31
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kemikbut id wait til breezy is stable.. since they're bugfixing and stuff right now01:31
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jero_The tutorial on the forum about getting all 10 buttons to work is misleading. all it does is getting 7 buttons to work01:31
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jero_yet its put on sticky01:32
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pablobmy coworker was all happy saying how linux is the same thing as windows01:32
jero_no mention about how to dissable the cruise control at all, which means that max 8 buttons will work01:32
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pablobjust wanted to prove him wrong :)01:32
kemikpablob:  heh.. well it's not the same as windows01:32
kemikwindows will degrade over time01:32
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kemikM$ even acknowledged it01:32
yaoand i do it01:33
jero_well, linux lacks lots of software windows has.01:33
pablobkemik: he, I use to reinstall debian once a year just for fun :)01:33
kemikpablob:  but really.. having a fight over which is the best OS is rather non-constructive.. they have different pro's and con's01:33
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David_WIlinux lacks nothing01:33
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grinchyhey all01:34
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aftertafDavid_WI> hehe!!!!!01:34
kemikpablob:  well thats for fun... windows forces you to do it every year for stability/performance01:34
pablobjero_: like clippy and antivirus sw01:34
jero_David - Sure, if you want to do propaganda then yes01:34
jaspcan u run std windows games eg cs source etc from linux?01:34
David_WIno prop01:34
aftertafjero_>01:34
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jero_like Map&Guide for example01:34
David_WIjust facts01:34
aftertaf!equivalents01:34
ubotu[equivalents]  A decent list of linux equivalents and analogues can be found here: http://linuxshop.ru/linuxbegin/win-lin-soft-en/table.shtml#101:34
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grinchyI was just wondering -- and i know it's not the best place to ask but i don't know here else to go -- but has anyone ever heard of a sceptre wireless card and it's compatibility with ubuntu?01:34
jero_or like Babylon translator01:34
kemiki guess David_WI hasnt been outside for a long time :P01:35
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David_WIyeah its raining01:35
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David_WIand cold01:35
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pablobwell windows lacks a lot of sw linux has as well :)01:35
athlonwhy should we argue about it, use whichever you like01:36
athlonuse whichever OS*01:36
jero_there are just tons of software you simply wont find in linux... and the fact that people have to tweak around just to make their mouse work properly within linux will get only freaks to linux and not the average user01:36
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aftertafpablob> its probably hardware then......01:36
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athlonjero_,  same thing, I wanna run KDE / Gnome under Windows for example01:36
dealthi01:36
David_WIcause microsoft litarally makes peoples digital lives hell01:36
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grinchyvery true jero_01:36
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jaspjust added that page ubotu...ill check it out01:36
dealtwat's the dreamweaver counterpart in ubuntu?01:36
aftertafathlon> totally.....01:37
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gsuveganybody can send me a default kernel config for hoary ?01:37
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aftertafdealt> nvu01:37
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aftertafgsuveg> you have one in /boot01:37
dealtaftertaf: nvu?01:38
David_WIsince when dose the mouse not work in any reputable distro01:38
gsuvegaftertaf: ah. sry01:38
aftertafgsuveg> no pb...... we're all learning01:38
HaNazirDavid_WI: ???01:38
jero_David - mx510 mouse exists since more than 1 year now. Yet at best you ll get 7 keys supported within games01:39
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jero_David - And even for those 7 keys, you have to go and visit some forums about how to enable them, which are full of incomplete and false information01:39
David_WIok no need to argue01:39
David_WIdose not matter01:39
gsuvegand what link the build  in lib ?01:39
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gsuvegsrc/linux ?01:40
Sionideif you dual-boot your ubuntu machine with windows nt/2k/xp check out http://www.fs-driver.org/ for a brilliant piece of software01:40
aftertafgsuveg> dont understand your Qu.. man01:40
gsuvegaftertaf: i want compite i810 driver from intel, and make file need a lib/modules/.../build01:41
aftertafSionide> dont know if id trust that 200% though.......01:41
gsuvegand i havent this dir or file, its symlink to /usr/src/linux ? or ?01:41
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Sionideaftertaf, i tried it- it works really well..01:42
aftertafgsuveg> the sound driver? it should already be there... type lsmod and llok for it01:42
gsuvegaftertaf: no. the dualhead driver for i85501:42
Sionidegsuveg, you're trying to do dual monitors on the i810 ?01:42
gsuvegSionide: yes!01:43
Sionidehmm i have that driver on my laptop01:43
gsuvegcool01:43
gsuvegplease send it to me01:43
Sionidethe best i got was the CRT mon plugged in doing a really tiny resolution01:43
Sionideerr i dunno how01:44
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Sionidei can give you my xorg.conf file for it :s01:44
gsuvegSionide: send me this file ;)01:44
aftertafSionide> i'd still be worried about borking up my drive;.... but then again i do believe you...01:44
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coaxis it possible to edit what's in the "places" menu in gnome?01:44
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dealtthere's this theread that ive read in the forums, something about linux-i686 package..i cant find the topic now01:46
aftertafSionide> then again, if you mess everything up while in linux, you can modify a fileor two from within m$ if you arent a hot linux shooter.... so, yeah, thumbs up!01:46
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aftertafdealt> what about it?01:46
dealtaftertaf: it tells there that if im on i686 platform, i should install it01:46
jero_Does anyone know where to find the xorg 6.8.2 SDK for breezy or hoary or knows how to compile without errors from source?01:46
dealtaftertaf: i forgot the package name01:47
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yaooh,my god! i can't resolve it01:47
Sionidegsuveg, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2405  <<//01:47
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aftertafdealt> ok.... its called linux-686 i think. look in synaptic. it installs the kernel optimies for your intel proc.01:48
David_WIjero_ are you missing any requirments01:48
David_WIpackages01:48
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aftertafyao> take a deep breath and let us know what is going on.....01:48
gsuvegSionide: lemme check01:48
jero_well, i installed flex and bisson it was moaning about01:48
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jero_still got errors01:49
David_WIread all the provided docs01:49
David_WI?01:49
jero_pswsemantics.c:(.text+0xaf5): undefined reference to `yylineno'01:49
jero_pswsemantics.c:(.text+0xafb): undefined reference to `ErrIntro'01:49
jero_yylineno is related to flex01:49
dealtaftertaf: old-school linuxers dont recommend kernel updates through package mgt, is this ok?01:49
jero_if i read all the provided docs i might be reading for 1 week and maybe the solution to it isnt in there01:50
aftertafdealt> it's the debian way :)01:50
jero_so i am such a jack and rather ask in here if anyone has done it01:50
David_WIwell not all docs ;-] 01:50
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David_WIwhat are you gonna work on01:50
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aftertafdealt> you can download source package and customise it if you want..... then make & all the rest. or you can use make kpkg and have a .deb ready & waiting :)01:51
David_WIspecifically01:51
jero_nothing, i just need the SDK to install the "real" evdev driver which in turn might allow me to get all buttons to work01:51
David_WIoh the mouse thing :-P01:51
dealtaftertaf: geez, i cant seem to remove the floppy install way back the ol' slackware days :)01:52
dealtaftertaf: anyway, i assume this package will 'detect' my devices?01:52
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kairu0hey al01:52
gamjahhello, can anybody give me the /etc/apt/sources.list01:52
kairu0l01:52
kairu0for what>01:52
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ompaulwhats the apt command to download all outstanding packages but not install them01:53
David_WI(:-] 01:53
aftertafdealt> it is a small kernel with most stuff enabled in modules, from what i heard01:53
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aftertafompaul> you dont have super cow powers?01:53
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aftertafompaul> apt-get moo01:53
David_WI"outstanding"?01:53
ompaulaftertaf, only on other days01:53
aftertafompaul> apt-get --help ;)01:53
ompaul:)01:53
dealtaftertaf: will it require a shutdown -r?01:53
aftertafdealt> not unless you want to boot on it ;)01:54
dealtaftertaf: how about bluetooth? hmmm, wat's the debian way to use it?01:55
aftertafnever bluetoothed yet, linux or m$01:55
daveHanyone know where amarok 1.3 is hiding? I thought they were breaking the freeze to include it?01:56
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aftertafdaveH> in breezy they have... i have it01:57
aftertafi hink01:57
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nathan_I just switched from Mandrake.  I'm pretty happy so far01:58
kairu0nathan_, what makes you happy?01:59
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David_WIif $tired { /sbin/shutdown now }01:59
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David_WIlater all01:59
nathan_Things that didn't work properly work now :)01:59
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nathan_particularly jack and alsa01:59
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kairu0i see02:00
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ompaulanyone for a +r for a few minutes02:01
aftertafbot?02:01
nathan_The only thing that I can't get working is a flash player on my AMD64 system02:01
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ompaulthanks :)02:01
Sionidewhat does that do?02:02
aftertafSionide> protection from thedark side ;)02:02
bob2only people who have identified to nickserv can join the channel02:03
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bob2which cuts out spambots people who can't read the #ubuntu-unregged topic02:03
nathan_Is there a reasonably simple way to install a 32 bit mozilla or firefox on an AMD64 ubuntu (breezy) system?  Then I could use Macromedia's player02:03
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bob2did you try the mozilla.org tarball binary?02:04
nathan_lol... no02:04
nathan_probably should have been the first thing02:04
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catfoxwhere do I set my ssh keepalive settings in ubuntu? i'm connecting to a server but it times out too quickly02:04
dooglusubotu: tell me about repositories02:05
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bob2nathan_: it may well work02:05
Whistlerhelp02:05
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bob2nathan_: if you have ia32-libs installed02:05
dhonnSound doesnt work all of the sudden after an apt-get upgrade.  I also get this error "The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured." Whats up?  i even did a gst-register02:05
Whistlerexit02:05
bob2Whistler: surely you've been coming here long enough to know that you need to ask a question...02:05
aftertaflol02:05
aftertafhe has been kidnapped and cant type... that is his problem... (maybe)02:06
aftertafand he was w00t02:06
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jero_where would i search for if i wanted to find out if a Xorg SDK package for debian exists?02:09
jero_is there any search engine on the net for such?02:09
nathan_bob2, I think I have ia32libs installed... I'll check that too.  Thanks02:09
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bob2nathan_: there's another ia32-libs package you might need, but I forget the fullname02:10
bob2jero_: like xlibs-dev?02:10
bob2or you mean a driver sdk?02:10
jero_checking for valid Xorg SDK... configure: error: Unable to find xf86Version.h under NONE/lib/Server/include and NONE/lib/Server/xc/include  - i mean that which helps fix this problem02:10
ctrhow does one edit the bootloader stuff and change the default boot item ?02:11
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jero_trying to compile the evdev driver02:11
aftertaf-dev then.....02:11
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aftertafctr> /boot/grub/menu.lst02:11
mark__ctr /boot/grub/menu.lst -- change default boot number02:11
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ctronce that is done, how do I update the bootloader ? run grub ?02:11
bob2jero_: xlibs-dev02:11
bob2ctr: update-grub02:11
ctrthanks02:12
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jero_ok thanks, i ll try that02:12
jero_brb02:12
aftertafis dansguardian a good web content filter?02:12
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jero_bob2 - i just found out i already installed xlibs-dev 6.8.2.67 on my system02:15
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scanwinderhow does one scan for channels for Xawtv?02:16
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jero_bob2 - What i am trying to achive is to make all 10 buttons of a mx518. For this you have to disable the two cruise control buttons via a patched version of lmctl which is already hard to find.02:19
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HaNaziraftertaf: yes02:20
HaNaziraftertaf: just a pain to configure02:20
jero_bob2 - So after doing that and using kvkbd and xbindkeys i was able to get all 10 buttons to output something within the terminal. llike the cruise control buttons output "a" and "b" as characters...02:20
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Whistlerhello everybody02:21
jero_bob2: However, xbindkeys running in demon mode, doesnt see any input from within the cedega windows. The daemon simply doesnt see when i push button 10 on my mouse02:21
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dealthi02:21
Whistleri use breezy and today i updated and now x wont start02:21
Whistleris there any way of setting xorg.conf to default?02:22
jero_xev  was the app i used to check for that02:22
dealti do want to install both php4 and php5, i wish to switch from between the from time to time02:22
dealtwat package should i consider? thanks02:22
Whistlerso anybody can help me with restoring xorg.conf to defaults?02:23
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jero_bob2 - you there still?02:23
brownie17how do i add more radio stations to rhythmbox?02:23
scanwinderhow do i clear apt's cache?02:24
maradongscanwinder, sudo apt-get clean02:24
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bob2jero_: yes02:24
nathan_:( firefox install bombs out with a bunch of errors about locale support and pango02:25
jero_bob2 - great..02:25
scanwinderim getting an error E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room02:25
scanwinderhow do i fix that02:25
scanwinderclearing the cache didnt fix it02:25
maradongscanwinder, hm02:25
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brownie17 can anybody tell me, how do i add more radio stations to rhythmbox?02:26
scanwindermaradong: whats hm mean?02:26
maradongscanwinder, try setting the apt cache higher02:26
maradongscanwinder, that I am trying to think of a way to cure this ;-)02:26
maradongscanwinder, sudo touch /etc/apt/apt.conf02:27
brownie17scanwinder, as is hmmmmm, i am thinking. (also may include stroking chin)02:27
maradongscanwinder, sudo vim /etc/apt/apt.conf02:27
brownie17is anybody familiar with rhythmbox?02:27
maradongscanwinder, and enter: APT::Cache-Limit "64000000";02:28
maradongscanwinder, save and exit, than try an apt-get update02:28
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ompaulbrownie17, at this stage you should know to ask the question and see who answers, the ide of familiar may be - I turn it on for some and other may say I code it - so ask a specific question and see what happens02:29
scanwindermaradong, yeah, ive done that, works now...thanks02:29
maradongscanwinder, you're most welcome02:29
brownie17ompaul, i did, no-one answered. and i know you will say that no-one knows, but somone is bound to, and repeatedly asking has helped me in the past02:30
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ompaulbrownie17, ask something specific like - How do I do foo with bar02:31
brownie17ompaul, i did, read up02:31
maradongscanwinder, actually 64 MB is somewhat large. try setting it to 32000000 if it still works with that setting ( and it really should work ;)) than leave it at 32000000 (which is still huge)02:31
ompaulbrownie17, :)02:31
brownie17ompaul, i said can anybody tell me how to add radio stations to rhythmbox02:31
nathan_brownie17, you want to add a station?  what's wrong with ctrl + i?02:31
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dealtwat's the chkconfig equivalent in ubuntu?02:32
hexionhello02:32
brownie17nathan_, ctrl+i? hat's that supposed to do?02:32
hexiondoes anybody know how to save the gnome-terminal size between sesions?02:32
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nathan_brownie17, adds and internet radio station (Same as music -> add internet radio station)02:33
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aftertafrepost nathan_ ;)02:33
nathan_brownie17, adds and internet radio station (Same as music -> add internet radio station)02:34
hexiondoes anybody know how to save the gnome-terminal size between sesions?02:34
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brownie17nathan_, but where do i find the station? i need a location!02:34
SweetDreamshello guys, i am new to ubuntu, have installed ubuntu but now i am facing a problem and cannot start ubuntu. x-session-manager tells me : error while loading shared libraries: libesd.so.0 cannot open shared object file: Error 40         does anybody know what to do for this? (i am online thx to the livecd)02:34
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lukokolibesd.so.0 is one of sound server libraries02:35
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aftertafSweetDreams> does X start, can you login?02:35
rooks08hello02:35
HaNazirlinu(xx)02:35
nathan_brownie17, I guess you just have to find a URL of whatever station it is.02:35
lukokoso would you say what sound card do you have?02:35
brownie17nathan_, OH REALLY!?!?!?!02:36
ompaulbrownie17, so you question is not about rythmbox but how to find online radiostations, now if only there was a way to search the internet ;-)02:36
rooks08 why is does my shared folders configuration crash everytime i open it02:36
brownie17nathan_, note sarcasm02:36
nathan_I don't know if there's a list of stations for it, sorry02:36
nlogaxbrownie17 I just pasted a link to an MP3 stream straight in02:36
brownie17ompaul, haha ok02:36
brownie17nlogax, yep02:36
aftertafompaul> i see your sarcasm plugin sucessfully loaded then?02:36
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brownie17ompaul, what would it be called? mp3 stream?02:36
ompaulaftertaf, well I did type it laughing02:37
nlogaxbrownie17 - go to somafm.com02:37
fdrHi! I would like to install spellchecker support in Evolution for some other languages... How do I do that? Thanks!02:37
SweetDreamsaftertaf ubuntu asks me for username and pass, i give them and then it tells me : Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds. If you have ... try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix the problem02:37
snorkswww.philosomatika.com02:37
ompaulbrownie17, or ogg stream02:37
rooks08 why is does my shared folders configuration crash everytime i open it?02:37
ompaulbrownie17, or rm  stream02:37
nathan_brownie17, google is your friend... try http://www.radio-locator.com/02:37
sPYder_CdOi have downloaded opera.deb... what will i do next to install?02:37
aftertafSweetDreams> ahh gnome does that.02:38
aftertaftry kde02:38
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markusHow do i change monitor frequency rate to 85Hz? The option is not available in the list :(02:38
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nathan_brownie17, a google search for "internet radio station" turns up heaps of hits02:39
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SweetDreamssome days ago i could still log on to ubuntu but i wrote in terminal sth like sudo ln -fs /usr/lib/libesd.so.1 /usr/lib/libesd.so.0 or sth like that and from then on ubuntu wouldnt start02:39
aftertafSweetDreams> why did you do that?02:40
aftertafSweetDreams> try kde of xfce, see if they load ok.02:40
aftertafyou may have to apt-get.02:40
SweetDreamsbecause i was trying to fix some soundcards probs02:40
SweetDreamshow do i try kde?02:41
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nathan_ok... I've got the firefox installer from mozilla.org but it quits with a bunch of errors to do with locales and pango, starting... (firefox-installer-bin:28181): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib02:41
aftertafsudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:41
lukokoSweetDreams, why dont uoy just delete symlink that you have created?02:41
Whistleri need to change refresh rate which line i should edit HorizSync or VertRefresh?02:41
SweetDreamslukoko how to do that? i am kinda of a big noob as far as ubuntu (and linux in general) is concerned02:42
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KarhutonBreezy works nicely enough?02:43
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WhistlerKarhuton yep02:43
nathan_it's working pretty well here02:43
WhistlerKarhuton bugs are appearing time to time but its ok02:43
Whistleri am using it now02:43
Whistler:)02:43
Whistleri need to change my monitors refresh rate, which line i should edit HorizSync or VertRefresh?02:44
markusme too!02:44
SweetDreamswhat i am trying to do is start with failsafe in terminal mode and fix the prob there so that i can start my ubuntu :P but dont know what to write there02:44
kairu0any other breezy users have update-manager crash on them lately?02:44
nathan_Whistler, from memory it's not quite that simple.02:44
Whistlernathan_ ?02:44
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apokryphosubotu: tell SweetDreams about kde02:45
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nathan_Whistler, you (at least used to) have to know the ranges of both for the monitor that you're using02:46
elad`Say, does MS-DOS also have something like bash's multiple logins, and the ability to "minimize" jobs?02:46
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Karhutonelad`, No, not really.02:47
elad`Because this is fucking awesome, I just can't stop obsessing over it.02:47
elad`It's been two days now, I think.02:47
nathan_Whistler, Although, looking at my xorg.conf, I think that HorizSync is the one that you want02:47
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spafbnerfelad` it has this thing called windows v 1 thru 3 ? ;)02:48
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elad`A question though - when I minimize a job like that, say IRSSI, how long until it gets disconnected from the server?02:48
spafbnerfand a similar free effort called SEAL... and another similar something i forget wot it was called....02:48
elad`I mean, when I halt it, not when I bg it.02:48
Karhutonelad`, use screen02:48
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elad`What?02:48
Karhutonelad`, then it runs in the background forever02:48
KarhutonInstall a program (and package) called screen02:49
markusnot forever, not tested enough yet.02:49
Whistleri have changed xorg.conf so now i should reboot for changes to take effect?02:49
elad`I guess I have screen, since I can run it in the background.02:49
Karhutonelad`, do you mean ctrl+z?02:49
elad`yes02:49
KarhutonIt's not screening02:49
elad`How do I pass it to the background with first halting it (ctrl-z), then bg-ing it.02:50
KarhutonIt's freeze :)02:50
spafbnerfOpenGEM, is the other DOS GUI... (www.freedos.org)02:50
KarhutonOh02:50
elad`*?02:50
Whistleri have changed xorg.conf so now i should reboot for changes to take effect?02:50
Karhutonelad`, use the 'screen' program02:50
nxv_start ist with02:50
nxv_command &02:50
KarhutonA lot more handy02:50
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nathan_Whistler, you should just be able to restart X.  logout and select restart X server if you're using gdm/kdm (or press ctrl + alt + backspace, if you don't mind losing your session)02:50
elad`What if I don't want to start it bg-ed, rather pass it to the bg after using it for a while?02:50
lukokoWhistler, your monitor refresh rate is acounted from H and V rate by the formula, however why dont you change refresh rate thru gnome scren resoliution?02:51
nxv_elad`: screen would be a way02:51
nxv_start it with02:51
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aftertafelad`> screen needs to be run first.02:51
nxv_screen command02:51
aftertaftype 'screen'02:51
nxv_ctrl-a ctrl-d02:51
nxv_tetaches the session02:51
nathan_Whistler, that's a really good move (gnome screeen resolution)02:51
nxv_sets it to the background in your words02:51
Whistlerlukoko first i do not use gnome02:51
Whistleri use xfce02:51
nxv_and screen -r -d reattaches it02:51
aftertafand http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/07/06/unix_gems.html02:52
nxv_it there is only one02:52
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Whistlerand it display settings show me only 75hz02:52
nxv_if u have several screens02:52
nxv_u get them displayed02:52
nxv_with screen -list02:52
markuslukoko: I want to change frequency but 85Hz option is not there, what can i do?02:52
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nxv_then use screen -r nbr_of_screen02:52
nxv_to reattach02:52
aftertafscreen rox.02:52
aftertafit pwns even :)02:52
yaoi install the scim,and i can't input the chinese,then i $dpkg -l ,it's display ii  scim           1.2.2-0+SVN3ho Smart Common Input Method platform02:52
yaoii  scim-fcitx     3.1.1-2hoary1  Free Chinese Input Toy for SCIM02:52
elad`ctrl-d closed it02:52
aftertafl33tspeak :D02:52
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aftertafelad`> now type screen -r02:53
Karhutonelad`, it doesn't close. It's in the background02:53
reiki_workI just found out that Opera has removed the ad banner and licensing fees. It's now a free browser...totally. And I know nothing about ti02:53
reiki_workti=it02:53
lukokomarkus, are uyou shure there should be such option?02:53
aftertafelad`> or type screen -x02:53
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Whistlercool it worked02:53
spafbnerfit's all "l33tspeak" to me02:53
aftertafreiki_work> yep.....02:53
yaoit's ok?02:53
Whistlernow i have 85hz02:53
nlogaxelad` - and DesqView too02:53
markuslukoko: yep, always used 1024x768 @ 85Hz.02:53
spafbnerfAEHEAHEAHAH AEAHAH haaah .....02:53
nxv_elad`: screen -r -d will bring it back and screen -list will show u all ure screens02:53
nxv_as i wrote02:53
yaoaftertaf help me02:53
nxv_have fun starting screens in screens02:53
elad`Type where? I'm in IRSSI02:53
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aftertafelad`> do Ctl A then Ctl C02:54
aftertafadd a new screen :)02:54
StrikeForcehas anyone had there desktop freeze in ubuntu02:54
nathan_Whistler, you were lucky :)02:54
StrikeForcelike non responsive?02:54
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elad`aftertaf: That closed it.02:54
aftertafelad`> nope!02:54
StrikeForceeverything still operates as per normal just no desktop02:54
elad`The jobs menu is empty.02:54
aftertafdo ctl A then Ctl P02:54
Whistlernathan_ thx for help02:55
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aftertaferf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!02:55
elad`What do you know... so, how do I find out which screens I have?02:55
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Whistleranother question how do i make glxgears show fps?02:55
aftertafelad`> CTL A then just C / P02:55
Whistleri am on breezy02:55
sophtpawhi a question about backingup02:55
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StrikeForcein console Whistler type glxgears02:55
Knorrie_lo02:55
Grant_Whistler: run it from a console it should show02:55
aftertafelad`> http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/07/06/unix_gems.html read that02:55
bob2Whistler: it's deprecated and pointless02:55
Knorrie_Failed to fetch http://nl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/o/openoffice.org-debian-files/openoffice.org-debian-files_1.1.4-3+2ubuntu4_all.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 82.211.81.182 80] 02:55
sophtpawi found a useful 'how-to' that helped me learn how to backup the computer02:55
Whistlerbob2 why pointless?02:56
sophtpawbut since i'm doing a fresh install i don't need that, am i right?02:56
Knorrie_I just did a breezy install02:56
bob2Knorrie_: update then try again02:56
bob2Whistler: because it's not a useful benchmarking tool02:56
Knorrie_bob2: yes I did update02:56
aftertafKnorrie> its a bit rocky to get to breezy.....02:56
Knorrie_:P02:56
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sophtpawhi, can someone help me briefly with a question?02:56
aftertafsometimes you have to reupdate and sidt-upgrade/upgrade more than once02:56
sophtpawa backup question02:56
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aftertafsophtpaw> backing up can always be useful. it depends what, and why...02:57
reiki_worksophtpaw: ask the question02:57
Knorrie_I'll try another mirrpor first02:57
Knorrie_s/mirrpor/mirror/02:57
Whistlereverybody heard good news about opera?02:57
aftertafKnorrie> which are u on?02:57
Knorrie_nl.archive.ubuntu.com02:57
aftertafWhistler> yep...02:57
aftertafKnorrie> ok... i was on fr. i just went archive directly02:57
sophtpawi backed up my whole computer but that is irrelevant if i'm doing a fresh install anyways, right?02:57
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elad`What's Fink?02:58
cycomHooray for Synaptic Smart Upgrade!02:58
cycomanyhow.02:58
nathan_does opera take mozilla plugins?  Maybe it can solve my 32 bit browser problems02:58
aftertaflol cycom02:58
Whistlermaybe opera will be included in later realeses of ubuntu?02:58
sophtpawhowever, i do want to bring my photoalbum, bookmarks emails and docs02:58
sophtpawdo i just back up /home ?02:58
Knorrie_aftertaf: i'm editing sources.list now to try another mirrir02:58
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sophtpawor /home/username ?02:58
Whistlernathan_  opera cant use extensions of firefox02:58
Whistleras far as i know02:58
cycomaftertaf: you'd be cheering too if your graphics suddenly didn't work on a fresh install (despite working before), having to switch to vesa, using synaptic, and suddenly having them work with the old driver!02:59
cycomwell, an upgraded driver.02:59
nxv_sophtpaw: /home/username should hold all the data of ur user02:59
aftertafcycom> it happens when you surf the breeze dude ;)02:59
mdeboersophtpaw: well, all your user data is in /home/username, so if you did not modify your system in any way, yes, that should be enough02:59
nxv_sophtpaw: as long as u don't run a local imap or database02:59
nathan_elad`, fink is a debian repository of packages for OS X02:59
sophtpawi don't02:59
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mdeboersohptpaw: note that it is even possible to leave your /home intact when you do a fresh install03:00
nxv_sophtpaw: than saving /home is a good idear, should save most of ur configs too03:00
mdeboersophtpaw that is03:00
aftertafsaving /etc too right?03:00
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nathan_so it's sort of like a distro (like ubuntu) that runs on top of OS X03:00
aftertafwhy do i have 2 /etc mounted, both on hdb6, in mtab, and none in fstab ?03:00
sophtpawso i don't backup /03:00
elad`Where is .screenrc in Ubuntu?03:01
Knorrie_elad`: /etc/screenrc ?03:01
nxv_sophtpaw: nope / ist your whole system03:01
aftertafelad`> hehe its hidden.03:01
nxv_sophtpaw: unnecessary as u would store all ur old packages03:01
sophtpawburn to cd then in new instal open /home/username03:01
matuchawhat can i do if i can ping to my ISP, but cant ping at any other ip?03:01
nxv_sophtpaw: did u make changes to /etc to configure some services?03:01
Knorrie_aftertaf: i'm upgrading with --fix-missing now03:01
sophtpawok, i'm the uber-newbie so i need reassurance and confirmation03:02
aftertafno it isnt hidden... my mistake!03:02
Knorrie_sophtpaw: yeah, you can do it!03:02
mdeboersophtpaw: do you have /home on a seperate partition?03:02
sophtpawnxv: i'm sure i did03:02
goo_uhm. I just booted with linux-image-2.6.12-8-686 and now my /dev/dsp and /dev/sound/ is gone. What went wrong?03:02
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sophtpawKnorrie: thx : )03:02
nxv_sophtpaw: then store /etc its all about system config files03:02
aftertafgoo_> bug  file areport03:02
nxv_sophtpaw: but don't just copy back after reinstallation03:02
nxv_sophtpaw: just use it to compare config03:02
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sophtpawgeez03:02
nxv_sophtpaw: if a service doesn't work the way u expect03:03
mdeboersophtpaw: do you have /home on a seperate partition?03:03
sophtpawi want my previous bookmarking for opera and firefox and epiphany03:03
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sophtpawno03:03
nxv_sophtpaw: thats all in ur home dir03:03
mdeboersophtpaw: that is all in /home/username03:03
sophtpawyes03:03
nxv_sophtpaw: most under .application name like .mozilla for firefox03:03
sophtpawi only have two partitions03:03
sophtpawswap and /home03:03
nxv_sophtpaw: u must have swap and /03:04
mdeboersophtpaw: swap and / is suppose03:04
sophtpawyes03:04
aftertafelad`> you copy /etc/screenrc to ~/.screenrc to have a user config for screen, the original is the system wide config03:04
elad`How do I see whether screen is running or not, if it's not under the jobs menu? And, does it run independently for each login window?03:04
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nxv_do u have an external usb disc?03:04
mdeboersophtpaw: do you have a lot of data in /home?03:04
sophtpawagues, not that much03:05
goo_Aha. Maybe I should actually START udev... d'oh03:05
sophtpawas i say, bookmarking03:05
nxv_elad`: if u want to find a prog running: ps aux | grep screen03:05
mdeboersophtpaw: du -s /home/03:05
sophtpawphotoalbum03:05
nxv_for example03:05
sophtpawemails03:05
mdeboeror better: du -sH /home03:05
nxv_du -sh /home/username03:05
nxv_mdeboer: :)03:05
mdeboer:-)03:05
sophtpaw1.6 gb03:06
aftertafgoo_> yep. the bug means asa workaround you can do that...03:06
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elad`Thanks. Is there a difference between -aux and aux?03:06
nxv_elad`: afaik no, try it03:06
mdeboersophtpaw: hm, that's quite a lot. it won't fit on a cd...03:06
nxv_sophtpaw: what about external harddrive or other computer on the network?03:07
sophtpawoh, if i compres with Bzip2 ?03:07
nxv_or dvd burner?03:07
nxv_bzip2 needs a lot of time03:07
sophtpawnope no dvd burner03:07
mdeboersophtpaw: i sometimes do the following, in order to preserve /home and do a fresh install03:07
sophtpawyes03:07
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zygahello03:07
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sophtpaw</listening>03:07
zygaI've just upgraded hoary to breezy03:08
mdeboersophtpaw: run the livecd (it can also be done with the install cd, but with the livecd will be easier), and mount your harddisk.03:08
sophtpawdon't have live cd03:08
zygaand my /dev was totally screwed03:08
nxv_i preferre gzip as it is mutch faster and in the end the amount of space needen wasn't such a difference03:08
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aftertafzyga see bug link in topic03:08
zygain the end I managed to get X working by using /dev/.static/dev...03:08
mdeboersophtpaw: delete all folders from your / , expect for /home03:08
zygahmm :-)03:08
aftertafzyga> and restart udev service03:08
elad`What does tty# stand for? The different virtual login terminals? Is there another way to see whether screen is running, since this one might have me close the wrong instance of screen (to the wrong login).03:08
zygathanks :)03:08
aftertafzyga> there is a bug with udev in breezy....  :)03:08
aftertafno pb.03:08
mdeboersophtpaw: (if you have a lot of diskspace, you could also create a folder /old, and move everything there)03:09
sophtpawmdeboer: can i jsut back each individual application or package and burn to cd03:09
Knorrie_elad`: screen -list03:09
Knorrie_it will tell you if screen is attached of detached03:09
elad`Knorrie, if screen isn't running, won't that initiate it?03:09
sophtpawlike backup my photo album03:09
Knorrie_no03:09
Knorrie_it will say : no screen blah running03:09
mdeboersophtpaw: now, when you run the installer, during the disk partitioning phase, you can select the partition, but tell it not to erase anything03:09
nxv_sophtpaw: if u backup on disc be shure not to agree to any disc partitioning during setup03:09
mdeboer"keep existing data" i think03:09
nxv_sophtpaw: u can tar gz ur home dir and etc03:10
elad`I tried it in another login session, and it told me about the other two's screens.03:10
sophtpawyes03:10
mdeboersophtpaw: but if i where you, i'd make a backup anyway. it never hurst03:10
nxv_sophtpaw: and use split to brake it into packages small enought for a cd03:10
mdeboerhurts03:10
Knorrie_elad`: screen -r -D03:10
nathan_bleh... opera needs motif for plugins.  Anyone got any idea how I can get a 32 bit lesstif installed on my system?03:10
Knorrie_elad`: that will attach a somewhere running screen03:10
nxv_tar or gzip it self might have a split option too03:10
elad`?03:10
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elad`OK, fuck this, I'm going out for a new keyboard.03:11
sophtpawok, thank you very much. My head is spinning but i'll go and try that03:11
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elad`My hands are permanently damaged.03:11
zygaaftertaf: hmm, restarting udev service seems to wait indefinitly03:11
nxv_sophtpaw: backup is easy03:12
sophtpawnxv: : ( i know03:12
sophtpaw: )03:12
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sophtpawdo you do it just from gui03:12
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sophtpawor better from command line03:12
sophtpawhome folder03:12
aftertafahhh. zyga that i dunno about.....03:12
nxv_sophtpaw: tar cvzf /tmp/username.tar.gz /home/username03:13
sophtpawright-click on home and click on archive?03:13
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zygaaftertaf: and that udev bug you mentioned is related to what?03:13
aftertaflol elad`03:13
zygaaftertaf: what does it cause?03:13
aftertafzyga> a lot of /dev devices not created on boot time...03:13
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sophtpawnot tar cvpzf backup.tgz?03:13
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gsuvegdualhead is working03:14
sophtpawnxv: do i need to become root?03:14
aftertafbug status: Status:    RESOLVED03:14
zygaaftertaf: so it's just a bad day to upgrade to breezy I guess...03:14
nxv_sophtpaw: u can give it any way u want03:14
aftertafget updating people :)03:14
nxv_sophtpaw: no need to get root, as u should be able to read all in ur own homedir03:14
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nxv_sophtpaw: and everybody can write to /tmp03:14
aftertafoh no... its not resolved, its a duplicate of an older problem...03:15
sophtpawnxv: what is the difference between tar cvzf and tar cvpzf ?03:15
nxv_split -b 700m backup.tgz should split it03:15
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abbot45im having problems with my mp3 player.  4/5 times when i connect it and try to copy music to it it tells me i dont have write permissions for the folder.  but when i check the permissions im the owner and I do.03:15
nxv_and u can go burning03:15
aftertafsee this link or the udev problem...03:16
nxv_sophtpaw: p keeps privilages, user own and rights03:16
aftertafhttp://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12915#c7203:16
aftertafabbot45> is it a fat mounted drive?03:16
nxv_sophtpaw: useful switch03:16
abbot45aftertaf, it may be.03:17
abbot45aftertaf, its an Archos Gmini 400 which is Linux based, so it may not be FAT.03:17
sophtpawnxv: and i can carry my 'stuff' over to any other GNU/Linux os?03:18
nxv_sophtpaw: c= create v=verbose z=gzipd compression f= filename03:18
sophtpawah, thank you for explaining the acronym03:18
nxv_sophtpaw: if u use the same mail cliente browser etc yes03:18
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sophtpaw: )03:18
abbot45it used to not do this.  getting annoying having an mp3 player but not being able to put stuff on it.03:19
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qt2i really wish breezy was rather stable, i feel like mass-upgrading :E03:19
qt2stable as in the sense of not possibly breaking on me :303:19
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aftertafabbot45> check fstab to see what fs it has, or even justtype mount ;)03:20
sophtpawnxv: its done. I can now find it in Home Folder. I go to K3B to burn a copy and i'm set03:20
aftertafzyga> try udating again, seems to have been fixed now.03:21
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zygaaftertaf: ok03:21
abbot45fstab?03:21
aftertafqt2> hehe russian roulette?03:21
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aftertafabbot45> the file that mounts your filestsyems03:21
qt2aftertaf: indeed.03:21
aftertaf/etc/fstab03:21
qt2aftertaf: i enjoy the feeling knowing i'm running EXTREMLY new things <.<;03:21
aftertafqt2> works fine for me... though true that a new update can bring in a new bug and break it.....03:22
aftertafqt2> though that way we contribute to the (r)evolution :D03:22
abbot45aftertaf, where would that be?03:22
er4z0rdoes anyone know how to get subversion running by System V --> through init.d script?03:22
qt2aftertaf: well, i was gonna update last night, but people were were saying there was some major breakage last night :/03:22
sophtpawnxv: why does it have a lock icon over the file?03:22
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nxv_sophtpaw: where du u have the lock?03:23
sophtpawWhen i opend Home Folder to see if i could see the tared file03:24
Knorrie_errr... opera depends on libqt3c102-mt; however: Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.03:24
sophtpawon the file03:24
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sophtpawbut i didn't tar from root03:24
nxv_sophtpaw: u didnt use /tmp03:24
nxv_?03:24
sophtpawso shouldn't have or requre special priviledgees03:24
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Knorrie_However the following packages replace it: libqt3-mt03:24
sophtpawno, just the command you gave me03:25
Knorrie_I installed libqt3-mt but opera still wants to see libqt3c102-mt03:25
nxv_but u put ur taer into ur homedir?03:25
vu_Anybody know what's the best free XviD encoding software available for Linux?03:25
Knorrie_can I fake that package or so?03:25
nxv_tar creates the file as the user u run it. and this user owns the file03:26
aftertafvu_> try mencoder...03:26
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brennerKnorrie: er, try installing libqt3c102-mt03:26
vu_aftertaf, DOes it run also on OSX?03:26
WhistlerKnorrie_03:26
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WhistlerKnorrie_ you should use another package03:27
aftertafvu_> if you can find it in a repos for osX, then try it, bever sed!03:27
sophtpawnxv: did you copy me?03:27
aftertafnever used!03:27
Knorrie_Whistler: E: Package libqt3c102-mt has no installation candidate (I'm on breezy)03:27
WhistlerKnorrie_ just a sec03:27
Knorrie_Whistler: another opera package?03:27
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Knorrie_Whistler: this was the only that was available for ubuntu so I thought let's try it03:27
vu_Thanx03:28
WhistlerKnorrie_ ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/850/final/en/i386/shared/opera_8.50-20050916.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb03:28
Whistleruse this one03:28
nxv_sophtpaw: don't know if i got all ur lines. had a call03:28
WhistlerKnorrie_ i had same prob this morning :)03:28
Knorrie_Whistler: thanks!! i'll try03:29
sophtpawnp03:29
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Whistlernp03:29
sophtpawi was answering your question about /etc03:29
sophtpawno i only copied your command03:29
sophtpawi don't know what the lock over the file is03:29
Knorrie_Whistler: yeah, that works03:29
sophtpawbut it's burning anyways, nearly done03:30
sophtpawK3B is magic : )03:30
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nxv_sophtpaw: i am a little confused, as u say u did run my commands and u have ur files in ur home dir, while i would have created the backup in /tmp03:30
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nxv_sophtpaw: i wouldn't create a file in dir i am just backing up03:31
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KinnisonHi, I want to upgrade to breezy (from hoary) but apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove ubuntu-desktop, workrave, tomboy, and a bunch of mozilla things03:31
Kinnisonwhat is the recommended upgrade path?03:31
clem_yeatscan someone advise me a good book about Ubuntu ?03:31
Whistlerclem_yeats i havent saw any books on ubuntu03:32
nxv_clem_yeats: no don't know one. would preferre web resources03:32
clem_yeatsany online book otherwise ?03:32
er4z0rok i'll do it with inetd. Another question: I want to configure serveral services to run as a non-root user (tomcat, svnserve)03:32
sophtpawnxv: i c03:32
sophtpawhave i burned that disc for nothing?03:32
nxv_clem_yeats: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation as mentioned in the channel topic03:32
clem_yeatsI'm particularly interested in learning about repos and distributions/universes..03:33
er4z0rI have created these users, but how can I prevent anybody from login in with these usernames?03:33
Whistlergrr not again, my cpu usage is 100% then i scroll web page.03:33
nxv_sophtpaw: what have u burned? the split file or did it fit on a disc after taring?03:33
Whistleranyone having this on breezy?03:33
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sophtpawi put the command you gave and burned it using k3b unto cd03:33
nxv_Whistler: i have just upgraded to breezy and using firefox i don't have this problem03:33
sophtpaw/home/username i suppose03:33
nxv_Whistler: i only get 100%cpu from sum fu*** flash sites03:34
sophtpawnxv: tar cvzf /tmp/username.tar.gz /home/username03:34
autrataSo I installed swat and then the browser says: connection refused (901). Why?03:34
nxv_sophtpaw: and u burned /tmp/username.tar.gz to the disc?03:35
sophtpawah.... so it is in /tmp i see03:35
sophtpawyes03:35
nxv_if fits on the disc?03:35
sophtpawbut i found it in homefolder03:35
brennerubotu: tell clem_yeats about components03:35
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sophtpawi just gave the above command yougave03:35
brennerubotu: tell clem_yeats about repos03:35
sophtpaw2. went to k3b03:35
nxv_sophtpaw: so u didn't use split03:36
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lesshasteanyone use one of these cherry multimedia keyboards in linux? How would I setup support for it?03:36
sophtpaw3. copied backup.tgz03:36
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nxv_sophtpaw: should work, but there shouldn't be a copie in ur homefolder03:36
sophtpawi don't know what split is, but it didn't ask to split anything03:36
sophtpawso i presume it all fit on one cd03:36
nxv_sophtpaw: perhaps it was from former tries03:36
sophtpawmaybe a different backup from something earlier i was doing03:37
nxv_sophtpaw: split was the command i gave u to break down a file into smaler parts, if it doesn't fit on a single cd03:37
sophtpawhow can i verify03:37
brennerlesshaste: searched the forum?03:37
nxv_just open the file u have on ur cd now with ur browser. i use koqueror 4 u it would be naughtilus03:37
lesshasteno not yet03:37
nxv_sophtpaw: i suggest kill the tar.gz file in ur /tmp03:38
nxv_sophtpaw: recreate it, browse it with naughtilus to verify if it contains ur home folder, and to see how big it is03:38
sophtpawhmm...there is no tarfile in /etc03:38
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ugo__you03:39
sophtpawi mean no backup.tgz03:39
ugo__boys had better tell me what you did to todays update03:39
ugo__i cannot log into my own box in X03:39
ugo__and I have to join the foum using a BitchX client03:39
nxv_sophtpaw: /tmp not /etc03:39
ugo__help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!03:39
aftertafcheck bug update ugo__ !!!!03:40
aftertafreupdate!!!03:40
autrataudo: welcome to the command line. try apt-get update and rebbot. worked for me03:40
ugo__with what a text client?03:40
ugo__help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have a class in 20 mins and my assignment is due!!!!?!!!03:40
aftertafcli rules!!!!03:40
sophtpawnxv: ooops, yes there it is. Different name too. username.tar.gz03:40
aftertafreupdate!!!!!!!03:40
[Wiebel] udev fixed? :)03:41
ugo__reupdate!!!!!!!?03:41
[Wiebel] nice :>03:41
sophtpawthats what i should have burned to cd, right?03:41
[Wiebel] what about ipw2200? :)03:41
nxv_sophtpaw: thats the name u gave to it03:41
athajust dist-upgraded to breezy and found out, that xutils has been split into smaller packages - any idea in which package gccmakedep is located now?03:41
ugo__aftertaf: come on man...im in some smelly shit here03:41
ugo__!03:41
ubotuugo__: Are you on ritalin?03:41
sophtpawwell, i don't know what the other backup in home folder was03:41
nxv_sophtpaw: open it to check weather it contains the files u want to save, should be ur homedirectory if u used the correct username03:41
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ugo__well id be putting someone on ritalin if i cant lick this issue fast03:42
ugo__what do i do?03:42
nxv_ugo__: calm down if u expect help03:42
ugo__ok...03:42
autrataugo__: seriosly, do sudo apt-get update and then reboot03:42
nxv_ugo__: read what people like aftertaf advice u03:42
brennerUdontKnow: autrata has given you the command to use03:42
sophtpawnxv: yes, homedirectory03:43
nxv_sophtpaw: so u found all ur home dir in this tar.gz file?03:43
brennercan we keep our home partitions when we cd-install breezy?03:44
ugo__yeah! im not mad guys....this is all amusing....03:44
ugo__ive had a shitty morning....03:44
aftertafugo__> sorry, on the phone!!!03:44
sophtpawnxv: yes, and i see in k3b that it is 1.4gb03:44
aftertafmy sister had a baby...03:44
sophtpawso please remind me how to split03:44
nxv_sophtpaw: so u will have to use the split command to brake it down to 2 cds03:45
sophtpawplease tell me again, nxv03:45
nxv_does k3b offer splitting files?03:45
sophtpawcan k3b do it automatically?03:45
nxv_i am currently taking a lock at it03:45
sophtpawahh...you're asking me also. Yes, i don't know03:45
sophtpawi can just click on burn and see03:46
nxv_i install k3b03:46
brenneranyone have a synaptics touchpad?03:46
sophtpawah, you don't use it03:46
aftertafyes!!03:46
[Wiebel] brenner: yes03:46
[Wiebel] alps03:46
[Wiebel] actualy03:46
sophtpawnxv: what is your favorite burner then?03:46
lesshastehmm... I have changed the root password in a VT but I can't su - in an xterm.. any ideas??03:46
nxv_sophtpaw: didn't have it running since updating to breezy03:46
nxv_sophtpaw: i preferre k3b too03:46
brenner[Wiebel] : have some time to lend us a hand in configging?03:46
sophtpawok03:47
nxv_sophtpaw: ok installed03:47
[Wiebel] brenner: ask me toninght03:47
[Wiebel] like03:47
[Wiebel] after 19:00 CEST03:47
[Wiebel] then i'll paste you my X conf03:47
sophtpawnxv: well i have just downloaded breezy iso03:47
brenner[Wiebel] : heh...it's 11pm here ... and i can't be bothered working out the time difference...03:47
autratadoes anyone use swat in breezy?03:48
nxv_sophtpaw: it is not necessary to do a cd installation03:48
sophtpawthen after backing up i will burn iso to disc and check out breezy myself03:48
[Wiebel] its 15:48 here ;)03:48
sophtpawyou mean simply upgrade?03:48
aftertafbrenner> i have it, but i disabled for an external mouse.03:48
nxv_sophtpaw: lets first back up ur data, always a good idear and then take the next step03:48
brenneri just needed to know good values to slow down the cursor, and to enable touch-tapping...i get this weird focus-switch when i tap03:48
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brenneraftertaf: configged it though?03:49
nathan_lesshaste, I tend to use "sudo su" then "su -" from there if I really want a root shell03:49
nxv_sophtpaw: don't find a option in k3b on the first look so lets do splitting03:49
sophtpaw; ) one step at a time03:49
[Wiebel] brenner: google some03:49
[Wiebel] it pretty easy to find03:49
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aftertafahhh ok. not for actually getting it instaled? ok03:49
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brennerheh. righto03:49
sophtpawok03:49
nxv_sophtpaw: cd /tmp && split -b 700m username.tar.gz03:49
Whistlerwhere is xchat icon located?03:49
scanwinderis there a command for apt-get to forcebly remove a package?03:49
aboyousifhi,03:49
aftertafWhistler> internet03:49
brenneraftertaf: no....i was impressed...mine was auto-detected....03:49
aboyousifwhere is the network file in debian?03:49
nxv_sophtpaw: should result in files of max 700mb03:49
Whistleraftertaf i need icon03:49
aftertafscanwinder> yes apt-get remove03:49
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aftertafbrenner>  me 2 ;)03:50
nathan_Whistler, /usr/share/pixmaps/xchat.png ?03:50
aftertafaboyousif>  /etc/network/interfaces03:50
scanwinderwell im trying to remove a package called cron and apt-get remove isnt doing it03:50
ugo__whoever did this may the curse of 10000 ants in your anus be your destiny!03:50
brenneraftertaf: my lspci output is ugly though....pretty much everything is an unknown device!03:50
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Ngscanwinder: don't remove cron :)03:50
aftertafcron nooooooooooo!03:50
brenneraftertaf: that's what i get for buying a compaq i guess.... :(03:50
ugo__im just joking ! but thanks guys...it worked03:50
aboyousifthanks aftertaf03:50
aftertafcool ugo__ nice 2 know ;)03:50
Whistlernathan_ thx a lot03:51
scanwinderbut i want to...its having problems and apt-get -f install wont fix the probs03:51
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Ngyou don't want to03:51
aftertafscanwinder> you shouldnt!!!!03:51
Ngchances are you can fix apt without needing to03:51
sophtpawnxv: cli is just hanging03:51
scanwinderhow do i fix apt without problems then?03:52
scanwinderwait, is cron important? should i somehow revert to the old version of it? how do i do that?03:52
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Ngcron is pretty important yeah03:52
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zblachhi03:53
Ngscanwinder: what's the actual problem you're having that leads you to want to remove cron?03:53
zblachanyone here code in vim?03:53
Ghotcomis there a root passwd by default in ubuntu?03:53
Ghotcomhi03:53
zblachGhotcom: no03:53
aftertaf!root03:53
ubotuit has been said that root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo03:53
goo_Ghotcom: do   sudo su -03:53
aftertaf^^^^^^ Ghotcom03:53
goo_Ghotcom: then   passwd03:53
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zblachhow can one do java syntax highlighting in vim?03:54
Ghotcomwhat03:54
scanwinderNg: cronL applet not found03:54
zblachubotu, tell Ghotcom about root03:54
Ghotcomgoo_: what , a firend of me just installed ubuntu from cd03:54
nathan_will "dpkg -i <package>" abort if it would overwrite an existing file from another deb?03:54
scanwinderNg: dpkg: error processing cron (--configure)03:54
NgGhotcom: ignore what goo_ said, read what ubotu said :)03:54
Ghotcomgoo_: i am assisting him by phone03:54
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GhotcomNg: ok03:55
goo_Ghotcom: like ng says, ignore me and read what ubotu said.03:55
Whistlerhow do i install flash for opera?03:55
Ghotcomwhat does he has to type for adminsitration password then ?03:55
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aftertafGhotcom> read ubotu's link03:55
NgGhotcom: he doesn't, what is asking him for it?03:55
aftertaf!sudo03:55
ubotusudo is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo03:55
brennerit's HIS password03:55
Ngscanwinder: are you running brezy?03:55
nathan_Whistler, download the macromedia installer, then copy libflashplayer.so to ~/lib/opera/plugins/03:56
GhotcomNg: the network admin03:56
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scanwinderNg: nope..........actually DSL........when i opened xchat, came into here....so tried askin here aswell as DSL channel....but there isnt many of them03:56
goo_and for the lovely windows feeling: stuff NOPASSWD: ALL into /etc/sudoers03:56
Ngscanwinder: and are there more errors you could paste into a pastebin site for us to see?03:56
lesshasteWhistler: just installl netscape-flash03:56
Ngscanwinder: ah03:56
megamanx2005anyone here heard of autopackage (.package files)  they install like exe's in windows have their own installers and unistallers set up icons etc03:57
NgGhotcom: that'll be his password then, if he reads the requestor closely he'll notice it says "please enter your password" (my emphesis)03:57
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nathan_Whistler, lesshaste's thing will probably work too03:57
scanwinderNg: where/what's pastebin?03:57
aftertaf!pastebin03:58
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ubotuhmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl03:58
vinboyany good mp3 player for linux?03:58
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scanwinderNg: is there not a command to just revert to the old version of cron?03:58
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Ngscanwinder: not easily, you might still have the old .deb in /var/cache/apt/archives03:59
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Juxellahello03:59
Ngvinboy: rhythmbox and beep seem to be the most popular atm04:00
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GhotcomNg: yu can configur ubuntuuising en user passwd?04:00
NgGhotcom: yes, you are supposed to :)04:00
GhotcomNg: scuzz i am writing with one hand :p04:00
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vinboythank Ng04:01
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scanwinderits not in /var/cache/apt/archives04:01
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Juxellai have a question... im trying to compile a software package (omnet++) and runing ./configure allways breaks complaing about lacking math.h (-lm). I've double checked the system, i have math.h installed and if i run gcc test.c -lm (which includes math.h) everything works.04:01
Ngscanwinder: then you might be able to find it on a DSL site maybe :/04:02
JuxellaDoes anybody have a solution for this problem?04:02
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JuxellaHow do i compile or tell the ./configure script where math.h is located.04:02
brennerJuxella: installed build-essential?04:02
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vinboyany good pdf reader?04:02
Tomcat_Juxella: Google for some parts of the error message... some libraries need special options on some distributions.04:02
sophtpawnvx: my keyboard froze04:02
Tomcat_vinboy: xpdf04:02
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Ngvinboy: evince04:03
sophtpawdid ubuntu really crash?04:03
casHi, I've problems installing Ubuntu warty one of my computers. I get the error initrd-tools cannot be installed while installing the base-system.04:03
GhotcomNg: oki the netowrk seems to be enabled04:03
vinboythanks..04:03
sophtpaw:o04:03
vinboyi tried xpdf, not that nice04:03
vinboyi'll go try evince04:03
Tomcat_cas: Why are you not using hoary? :o04:03
Ngxpdf is rubbish ;)04:03
funkyHatvinboy, acrobat reader?04:03
vinboythank04:03
gerarconewhat is the difference between 686 and 386 kernel version in breezy?04:03
Tomcat_I love xpdf.04:03
Tomcat_Clean, just works.04:03
Ngbleh04:03
Ngit's ugly as sin04:03
vinboyfunkyHat, so they have acrobat reader for linux04:03
Ngand older than that ;)04:03
GhotcomNg: now where does he has to go for downloading packages ?04:03
Tomcat_gerarcone: 386 works anywhere, 686 is mostly higher Pentiums.04:03
casTomcat_, I'm sorry it's breezy04:03
sophtpawnvx: still here?04:03
NgGhotcom: System->Administration->Synaptic04:04
funkyHatvinboy, yes, i couldn't tell you which repository it's in though, as mine seem to be broken at the moment04:04
funkyHat:(04:04
nxv_sophtpaw: what did u mean with cli hangs?04:04
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m1kedhello04:04
GhotcomNg: what s the use of Install/Uninstall ?04:04
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sophtpawnothing appeared to be happeneing04:04
Tomcat_Ng: Why does it have to look good? Beautyful UI only distracts from the horrible lecture slides I need to read. :)04:04
GhotcomNg: at the top of the menu04:04
Ghotcom?04:04
nxv_sophtpaw: when u did split?04:04
sophtpawthen keyboard froze so i had to reboot04:04
Juxellabrenner: way to go, build-essential did the trick, thanx a lot04:04
sophtpawyes04:04
sophtpawlets try again04:04
sophtpawi had alot on my desktop04:04
NgGhotcom: the Add/Remove Programs in Applications->System Tools? That's just a really simple interface for installing applications, synaptic lists way more stuff04:04
m1kedguys i have a problem04:05
nxv_split just takes an input file like ur tar and copies in block of the maximum length u give to it 700m as in my example04:05
funkyHatanyone else got broken repositories in breezy? :( it sucks, can't upgrade or install hardly anything04:05
m1kedi installed ubuntu last night04:05
NgGhotcom: if what he wants is in the Add/Remove Programs one then using that is fine too :)04:05
m1kedand updated it04:05
m1kedbut i cant see my ntfs partitions04:05
GhotcomNg: oki04:05
brennerJuxella: no sweat04:05
nxv_sophtpaw: should freez linux. do u have enough space on device?04:05
casIt seems an error on amd systems, because a friend of mine has the same problem and I found simular problems on the internet. What could this be? Should I clear my disk better with a livecd or has this nothing to so with it?04:05
funkyHat!tell m1ked about ntfs04:05
sophtpawwhat device?04:05
nxv_sophtpaw: ur harddisc04:06
maradongm1ked, well, did you mount them? :)04:06
brennerJuxella: btw, if your installing from source ... a better method is using checkinstall04:06
sophtpawoh, yeah, 80 gb04:06
nxv_sophtpaw: enought 4 the tar and the splittet files04:06
nxv_free?04:06
apokryphosm1ked: after you've registered, you should use /msg nickserv identify password   ...not the register command04:06
gerarconeTomcat_: i had a problem with hoary, the 386 version doesn't see all my RAM (so i upgraded to 686), but now that i'm running breezy (and i also have 386kernel) it seems to work... there is some reason to upgrade the kernel version? i have a P404:06
sophtpawnxv: dont worry my keyboard often freezes04:06
nxv_sophtpaw: then u will have to try again. maybee ur /tmp was cleaned04:06
maradongm1ked, hello?04:06
sophtpawno, minus (-) installation of ubuntu etc04:06
m1kedguys04:07
sophtpawyes, lets try again04:07
nxv_sophtpaw: but u shouldn't have reagular freezes without broken hardware04:07
m1kedi have kernel 38604:07
Juxellabrenner: well, now it broke down at tcl/tk requrement, i checked synaptic i have both installed?04:07
Whistlernathan_ can you repear me where do i need to put that file for opera+flash04:07
m1kedhow do i upgrade to kernel k704:07
funkyHatm1ked, did you get the message from ubotu?04:07
sophtpawok04:07
Whistlerrepeat04:07
m1kedcause i got a barton04:07
Ghotcomis GAIM installed by default ?04:07
m1kedyes i did04:07
GhotcomNg: ?04:07
WhistlerGhotcomyep04:07
WhistlerGhotcom yep04:07
Ghotcomoki04:07
maradongm1ked, wellwellwell ;-)04:07
m1kedim reallllyyyy noooob04:07
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maradongm1ked, open up a terminal04:07
Tomcat_gerarcone: Switching from 386 to 686 is not "upgrading"... no idea why that happened though. Maybe the P4 has some problems with the 386 kernel.04:07
m1kedok04:08
sophtpawnxv: i had alot on my desktop besides04:08
maradongand type "df" without the "" obviously04:08
m1kedk04:08
sophtpawnxv: please give me the split command again, if you will04:08
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maradongtell me, are the ntfs partitions listed there?04:08
GhotcomNg: if Synaptic works then I can assume the network is up ?04:08
nxv_sophtpaw: split -b 700m file_to_split04:08
m1kedim config is a k7 barton and 1 gig ram04:08
sophtpawdo i cd /tmp first04:08
nxv_sophtpaw: u can use another size if u have bigger cds04:08
sophtpaw?04:08
m1kedi should use kernel k7 right?04:08
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funkyHatmaradong, m1ked could just follow the message ubotu gave him04:09
sophtpawno 700mb cds they are04:09
gerarconeTomcat_: i repeat, now it seems to work... do you think it would be useful to "switch"?04:09
funkyHat!tell maradong about ntfs04:09
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aleitnerwill beagle 0.1.0 make it into breezy?04:09
m1kederm04:09
maradongm1ked, theoratically, yes, you should be using a k704:09
sophtpawnxv: cd /tmp first?04:09
nxv_sophtpaw: split just creates the files where u are.04:09
ccorkrumcan anyone tell me why most libs on debian based os's are chmod 644?04:09
maradongfunkyHat, oh, I didn't see a message of ubotu :)04:09
nxv_sophtpaw: so now try to think where u want it and create it there04:10
funkyHat:)04:10
sophtpawwell it is in /tmp04:10
sophtpawso, cd /tmp split -b 700m file_to_split username.tar.gz ???04:11
nxv_sophtpaw: i gave u the procedure several times and have now some work to do. so try to use it. its easy04:11
funkyHatm1ked, to use the k7 kernel, install linux-k704:11
Whistleris it possible to install Beaver using apt-get?04:11
funkyHatm1ked, sudo apt-get install linux-k704:11
funkyHatthen restart04:11
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sophtpawnvx: thx for your help. I just lost the command due to rebbooting can you just confirm my line before going04:11
nathan_Whistler, sorry, was afk... libflashplayer.so to ~/lib/opera/plugins/04:11
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leagrishi04:12
Whistler~/lib/opera/plugins/ means /home/lib/opera/plugins/04:12
Whistler?04:12
Whistleri dont know what does ~ mean04:12
bazhhello...im having troubles with xorg under ubuntu...i just installed hoary and xorg is using around 20-40% cpu, i tried a few things, but doesnt help. Maybe someone knows more?04:12
funkyHat:( my pastebin script is broken04:12
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Whistlerbazh you use breezy?04:13
goo_Whistler: ~ means $HOME04:13
leagrisWhistler, the two path are equivalent04:13
goo_Whistler: or /home/$USER  if you like.04:13
bazhWhistler: not that i know...what kind of program is it?04:13
bazhlet me see...04:13
nathan_Whistler, /home/<username>/lib/opera/plugins (~ is a shortcut to your home directory)04:13
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sophtpawnxv: well we were nearly there, never mind. Thx for your help anyways04:13
Knorrie_how can I find the correct driver for in xorg.conf when using a VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86c775/86c785 [Trio 64V2/DX or /GX]  (rev 04) (prog-if 00 [VGA] )04:13
bazhWhistler: nope04:13
bazhits a fresh install of ubuntu04:14
Whistlerbazh what is your ubuntu version?04:14
bazhand it borked right away04:14
tucozHi, I am trying to find the development packages for xorg, but I can't find them in synaptic04:14
bazhlike i said...hoary...04:14
Whistleroh04:14
nathan_tucoz , x-window-system-dev is a meta package that will install all the files you need04:15
Whistlernathan_ there is no lib folder in my home04:15
leagrissophtpaw, I juste upgraded from Hoary to Breezy, and I can't find a working k3b package. Do you have any idea where I can get one ?04:15
nathan_hmmm04:15
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A-starhi everyone04:15
funkyHatanyone help me with this? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2409 (beagle not starting up)04:15
sophtpawleagris: i'm not in breezy yet myself, sorry04:15
NgGhotcom: that would seem reasonable, yes, unless it's getting packages from the CD, which it may try to do by default04:16
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sophtpawstill trying to backup04:16
NgGhotcom: get him to try some web pages or something?04:16
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leagris:) good idea04:16
tucoznathan: ok. thanks. I'll try that04:16
A-starHow do I run a certain command during boot?04:16
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leagrisrc.local may be appropriate A-star04:16
UngyI have a question does anyone know why if Ubuntu is suppossed to stay up to date why Breezy's default mysql install is a 4.0x and not a 4.1x?04:16
funkyHatA-star, it depends what stage of the boot you want it to be run04:16
jdermerhow do i uninstall something with apt-get ?04:17
Ungyapt-get remove --purge04:17
Ungythen package name04:17
Ungyonly use purge to get rid of config files04:17
tucozjdermer, or use synaptic04:17
A-starit has to run after iptables starts up (using that with firestarter). any idea?04:18
megamanx2005anyone here like autopackge instead of apt-get or synaptic?04:18
nathan_Whistler, in preferences --> advanced --> content --> Plug-in options...  what is your plug in path?04:18
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funkyHatmegamanx2005, no, autopackage is very nice when there is no deb available though04:18
Whistler/usr/lib/opera/plugins:/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins:/usr/lib/netscape/plugins-libc604:18
leagrissomeone already use Breezy here ?04:19
nathan_Whistler, then try putting it in /usr/lib/opera/plugins then04:19
Whistlerk04:19
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A-starthe command is this "fetchipac -S"04:19
nathan_leagris, yeah04:19
ompaulleagris, some to and some got bitten by the bug in the topic04:19
ompaulleagris, some do that should read04:19
leagrisnathan_, I try to get k3b but can't find a ubuntu package for that04:19
leagrisdid you installe k3b with breezy and how ?04:20
krageI have just installed ubuntu, and am trying to reformat an NTFS disk to a ext2 and mount it04:20
UngySo Does anyone know why the default mysql-server and mysql-client are out of date?04:20
nathan_hmmm... I seem to have the package in my sources04:20
kragebut i think i do somthing wrong :(04:20
ompaulleagris, its in main - so you should be able to get it no problem04:21
leagrisnathan_, is tha a ubuntu package ?04:21
chrissturmwhats the option for tar to use bz2?04:21
nathan_leagris, yes, it is04:21
ompaulleagris, package name k3b04:21
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leagrisompaul, would you share your source.list ?04:21
athachrissturm: -j04:22
ompaulleagris, it is in main, the base of any source.list04:22
athaor --bzip204:22
leagrissorry ompaul, could not find it in main, weird04:22
ompaulleagris deb http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted04:22
vinboyis there any good download manager?04:23
ompaulwhere ie can be where ever you are04:23
ompaulvinboy, synaptic is good, system - administration - synaptic04:23
vinboy????04:24
A-starwhere can I find the file rc.local?04:24
brennerompaul: cheeky. :)04:24
ompaulleagris, in a terminal >>sudo apt-get update<<04:24
brennervinboy: try downloader for x ... or learn wget syntax.04:24
ompaulbrenner, what dies he want04:24
leagrisype, trying that now04:24
ompaulbrenner, what does he want04:24
brennerompaul: see above04:25
vinboyok thanks04:25
nathan_vinboy, I'm quite happy with KGet, but that's a kde thing04:25
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megamanx2005has anyone here had any exeperiance with .package autopackages?  Did they mess your system up personally?04:25
leagris3b:04:25
leagris Depends: dbus-1 (>=0.23.4) but it is not installable04:25
leagris Depends: dbus-qt-1c2 (>=0.23.4) but it is not installable04:25
brennernathan_: is that a frontend to wget?04:25
ompaulbrenner, aahhhhhhh DOH!04:25
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brennerompaul: hehe04:26
nathan_brenner, no I don't think it is04:26
leagrisompaul, the package k3b is not a ubuntu package in my list04:26
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dabarmegamanx2005: there is no such thing. It can  mess up your system, or does not have to. It is fairly sound, the technology, however. Depending on what you install, it will or will not mess up your system.04:26
leagriswhen trying to install it need conflicting dbus-1 packages and some more04:26
ompaulleagris, paste your sources into paste.ubuntulinux.nl04:26
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tucozdoes anyone know in what package the kde headers are to be found?04:27
gregoriaWe have a file server with two 250gb hard drives here in the office. Samba is set-up and sharing /home/test. Can I expand home test over the two drives transparently04:27
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ccorkrumthe answer to my question ( Shared libraries should not be installed executable, since the dynamic linker does not require this and trying to execute a shared library usually results in a core dump. )04:27
ccorkrumtaken from the debian manual04:27
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jpfariashi!04:28
Nggregoria: you probably want to look at something called LVM, or you could do it with software RAID04:28
ccorkrumguess it's just trying to figure out where to look04:28
megamanx2005i was just wondering if anyone had personally had an autopackge screw up their system04:28
nathan_tucoz, probably kde-devel04:28
gregoriammmh, i was recommended that before but someone else said it was dangerous to use04:28
dabarmegamanx2005: what did you install, what is broken?04:28
gregoriais it easy to set-up04:28
dabarmegamanx2005: yes, someone has.04:29
leagrisompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d241304:29
tucoznathan: probably :)04:29
tucozit was just so many kdebase, kde, and so on04:29
ompaulleagris, caught it as you pasted it - have you an apt.conf?04:29
tritiumtucoz: narrow your search, then04:29
dabarmegamanx2005: you can put a kernel in an autopackage, and install a gentoo kernel onto your ubuntu system, which your system will not like.04:29
tucozyes, I found it04:29
Juxellahello ppl. having some problems building source (./configure breaks with requesting tcl/tk libs) - this is the output: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2412 Does anybody know what to do? I have tcl8.4-dev and tk8.4-dev installed04:30
gregoriawhats the command to view what hard drives ubuntu can see?04:30
Juxellaam i missing some importatnt dependencies?04:30
leagrisnot a single one ompaul04:30
Juxellatrying to install omnetpp04:30
leagrissome conf files in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d04:30
nathan_tucoz, yeah, I understand how it can get confusing.  I like the debian/ubuntu fine grained package management most of the time, but when you're lookign for something in particular it can all be a bit too much04:31
TokenBadif you have a file that needs to be compiled and you do the ./configure and then make..but there isn't a binarie..then what do you do?04:31
gregoriaas in the drives installed on my system?04:31
tritiumTokenBad: did it fail to compile?04:31
ompaulleagris, ooch04:31
tucozyes, like with all the meta packages. My install went booom in terms of size just now.04:31
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TokenBadno04:32
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nathan_gregoria, "mounts" will show you where all the drives are mounted04:32
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brennerTokenBad: you do make install probably...04:32
dabargregoria: sudo fdisk -l04:32
leagrisompaul, what about the apt.conf ?04:32
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tritiumTokenBad: you should look into using checkinstall if you're going to install that system-wide04:33
tucoznathan_: thanks for the help. compiling now.04:33
tritium(since it's not under package management)04:33
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megamanx2005dialup dropped me04:33
TokenBadI did make install it says something about no rule to make target install04:33
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TokenBadand what is checkinstall?04:33
megamanx2005i was saying that autopackge of gaim 1.5.0 installed on hoary with no problems, it was awesome it set up my icons and gave me an uninstaller04:33
tritium!checkinstall04:34
ubotuwell, checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall04:34
tritiumyeah, you told us yesterday, megamanx200504:34
dabarmegamanx2005: dontg be greedy for application versions, and this wont happen. You are running an unstable version of Ubuntu, and then you installed an unstable version of an app.04:34
Ungy!mysql04:34
ubotuhmm... mysql is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP04:34
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jpfariasmy breezy install has become crazy!04:35
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jpfariasI have no more /dev/psaux04:35
jpfariaswhy did it disappear?04:35
dabarmegamanx2005: that is called a testing system, and should be on a separate partition from first of all your data, and secondly your main system.04:35
FaithfulHey what's the latest version?04:35
tritiumof what?04:35
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m1kedhow do i install cedega ? :P04:36
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dabarm1ked: they have a web site.04:36
leagrism1ked, commercial or CVS ?04:36
kezza491i am trying to run Boa-constructor on my ubunto so i have gone ahead and downloaded and compiled and set up (i think) all the stuff that is requered but it still says it cant import wx any ideas?04:36
Faithfultritium: am I in the ubuntu channel?04:36
dabarm1ked: as well as a #.04:36
m1kedi got it off torrent04:36
dabarFaithful: yes, you are.04:36
tritiumFaithful: yep04:36
ompaulleagris, you should not be getting conflicts with dbus - however given what happened with breezy last night where  X died I would not advise anyone to do further updates unless they are able to recover from total system failures themselves - with an apt.conf you get to make breezy take the native package first before the others - so that in the event of a conflict you do not interfer with the installed software04:36
FaithfulHey what's the latest version?04:36
tritiumof what?04:37
dabarof ubuntu?04:37
ompaulFaithful, of windows?04:37
Faithfulyes04:37
dabarFaithful: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/04:37
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dabarheh.04:37
leagrisompaul, is tha timple to tell that in apt-conf or can you point me at some doc ?04:37
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tritiumFaithful: version 5.04, The Hoary Hedgehog04:38
dalamarX dies after the upgrade last night? grreeat, guess im not rebooting ;p04:38
ompaulFaithful, the latest ubuntu is 5.04 hoary release - the 5.10 version is in testing and around next month about the 13th04:38
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ompauldalamar, read the bug at the top of the screen04:38
dabarFaithful: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=350378#post35037804:39
jpfariasdoes someone knows why /dev/psaux no more exists?04:39
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ompaulleagris, hang about this box is less than 6 hours installed I will find one for here and pass it on, my syntax might be wrong otherwise04:40
leagrisoki ompaul04:40
FaithfulSo I have a new new laptop I wont to chuck it on to test compatability04:40
FaithfulSo wwhich would be the best berion04:41
shawarmaIt says in the 5.04 release notes that "ubuntu now supports installation from USB devices"... Is it documented somewhere how to do that?04:41
ompaulFaithful, try the live CD04:41
FaithfulMy wife was hanging off my face so it made it hard to type04:41
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gregoriafunny i have a dell server: main disk is SCSI. I installed two SATA drives and when I activate them in BIOS, ubuntu starts to uncompress the kernel and then panics04:42
gregoriaHow can I activate them and use them wth Ubuntu, the SCSI disk is connected with a RAID card04:43
brennerFaithful: what brand?04:43
MaDsKiLLzhmm04:43
MaDsKiLLzim thinking of upgrading to breezy04:43
HaNazirjpfarias: xorg crash?04:43
tritiumFaithful: laptop support is even better in the new version due out next month (breezy)04:43
jpfariasHaNazir, yep04:43
MaDsKiLLzhas anyone here had problems upgrading to breezy04:43
leagristhanks for you kind help ompaul anyway04:43
tritiumYou might either wait about a month, or try a recent liveCD image04:43
MaDsKiLLzi tried way back and had problems04:43
brennertritium: nice....cos my lspci output is 95% unknown devices, :-/04:44
MaDsKiLLztritium, i installed using the preview cd and had no probs04:44
tritiumbrenner: which laptop do you have?04:44
leagrisyesss, ompaul I found it04:44
tritiumMaDsKiLLz: cool :)04:44
MaDsKiLLzbut i dont wanna fsck up my current setup by just using apt to upgrade on this pc04:44
leagrisit seems the order of sources matter inside sources.list04:44
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tritiumleagris: why do you say that?04:44
leagrisnow it list ubuntu packages, and a nice shiny k3b ubuntu :)04:44
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jpfariasHaNazir, any tips?04:45
HaNazirjpfarias: yes04:45
leagristransgress, I could not find the unbuntu k3b package04:45
HaNazirjpfarias: hang on a sec :)04:45
jpfariasHaNazir, ok, thanks04:45
tritium!info k3b04:45
brennertritium: compaq presario M2217AP .... i know...i should've went for the thinkpad04:45
ubotuk3b: (K3b, a sophisticated KDE cd burning application), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.11.23-0ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 2209 kB, Installed size: 4716 kB04:45
leagrisI juste moved the alternate sources after the ubuntu sources in the sources.list file04:45
leagristritium,04:45
tritiumbrenner: search http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam, and see if anyone has info on your model04:46
nathan_!test04:46
ubotuWorking....04:46
nathan_hmmm04:46
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brennertritium: afaik, they don't04:46
HaNazirjpfarias: many users had this issue. i need to find the command. looking.04:46
brennerbut i'll check now04:46
tritiumok04:46
jpfariasHaNazir, it happened after this morning update04:47
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HaNazirjpfarias:04:47
HaNaziryes04:47
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tritiumjpfarias: are you using breezy?04:47
jpfariastritium, yep04:47
tritiumjpfarias: be patient.  It'll be fixed shortly04:48
brennertritium: nope nothing...so does laptop support mainly have to do with the kernel?04:48
jpfariastritium, ah, ok04:48
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tritiumbrenner: that's part of it, but there are other aspects04:48
dabarjpfarias: the udev is broken. you can revert to 1ubuntu12 and it will work, right tritium? It is in the topic.04:49
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platois the very latest video4linux stuff going to be put into the next kernel? whatever is in 2.6.12-8 right now has broken cx88 drivers.. whatevers in the v4l cvs is good though04:49
brennertritium: care to elaborate? :)04:49
nathan_I've had quite a number of tricky little experiences getting ubuntu working (mostly based on my old Mandrake stuff).  Where's the best place for me to share them?04:49
tritiumyes, dabar, I believe so04:49
tritiumbrenner:04:50
jpfariasgotta go04:50
tritiumhttp://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1593204:50
jpfariasthanks guys04:50
twibblercan anybody tell me how to install the ubuntu source code please.04:51
tritiumsorry, brenner, that was for jpfarias04:51
HaNazirsuck04:51
HaNazirnow i got it04:51
tritiumtwibbler: with apt-get source04:51
Jhairtwibbler, what do you mean by "the ubuntu source code"04:51
brennertritium: heh...was wondering...04:51
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twibblertritium: thank you ....04:51
HaNazirhow do i leave a memo for someone?04:52
tritiumtwibbler: you can download the source to any package with apt-get source04:52
twibblerJhair: I need to recompile the alsa driver to enable my sound card but need the source ..04:52
tritiumthanks, by the way, dabar04:52
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athaudev_0.060-1ubuntu14 this version seems to work fine , ...13 had problems04:53
andrilhello all04:53
HaNaziryes04:53
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HaNazirso wait for 14 :)04:53
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avinoamI have a question- I'm trying to install kmuddy and there are ubuntu versions of files that are not enough up to date04:53
ilba7r!enlightenment04:53
ubotuit has been said that enlightenment is at Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work; install: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4610504:53
athawait? i already installed it04:53
UngyWhy is mysql default package 4.0x and not 4.1x when 4.1x has been the released version of mysql even before Hoary came out04:53
HaNaziratha: and ur xorg didnt crash?04:54
Jhairtwibbler, alsa drivers are part of the kernel AFAIK, it would be very rare if the ubuntu stock kernel doesn't provide the driver for your card as a module...04:54
athayep, worked fine after upgrading from 13 to 1404:54
kenroIs there something about Ubuntu's setup for sudo that prevents using gtksu? I cannot get it to accept my password.04:54
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twibblerjhair: oh that it is.... and really annoying .... and begining to bug me .....04:54
HaNaziratha: ah so u fixed just by upgrading:)04:55
HaNazir?04:55
nathan_twibbler, you can install the alsa-source package04:55
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ompaulleagris,  create that file and put this in it - I am 99% certain that is correct  >>APT::Default-Release "breezy";04:55
ompaul<<04:55
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twibblernathan: thank you ...04:55
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avinoam I even tried updating based on debian unstable files, but that's also problematic04:55
nathan_twibbler, the instruction on how to procede fromm there end up in /usr/share/doc/alsa-source/README.Debian04:56
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twibblerJhair: even tried breezy and doesnt support the card ..04:56
fredforfaenis there a program i could use from cli to view my hardware and driver info?04:56
avinoamanyone have an idea how i can get that package running?04:57
Jhairtwibbler, I agree with nathan_ suggestion, I haven't do it by myself but just grab de alsa-source sources and follow the instructions04:57
athaHaNazir: yes, I got the ..13 working by making devices with MAKEDEV, and then when I got the xorg running, used the system tray application to upgrade the found udev04:57
Jhairtwibbler, BTW which card is it?04:57
brenneravinoam: don't try installing debian stuff...04:57
twibblernathan: Jhair: looks like I can just reconfigure as I need to ....04:57
brennerbad idea iirc04:57
leagrisompaul, ok, doing it04:57
avinoambrenner but it won't work without!04:57
avinoambrenner it claims that the files i have aren't up to date enough04:58
fredforfaeni have used infobash on kanotix , but i cant seem to find it in ubuntu04:58
twibblerJhair the sis5513 motherboard with an inbuilt card ...04:58
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misieqhi there!04:58
ompaulleagris, however I would abstain from doing any upgrade till the topic here changes04:58
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misieqi'm wondering how can i join files in this way:04:58
kenroavinoam: Are you trying to keep your system all-kde?04:58
misieqline1_file1 line1_file204:58
avinoamkenro i have gnome as well04:59
misieqline2_file1 line2_file204:59
misieqand so on...04:59
brenneravinoam: yes but from what i've heard, installing debian stuff will cause breakage04:59
kenroavinoam: Have you tried papaya?04:59
avinoamkenro what is papaya?04:59
brenneravinoam: what files in particular?04:59
leagrisompaul, too late ;o)04:59
fredforfaenanyone have a clue?04:59
kenroavinoam: MUD client.04:59
avinoambrenner i'm trying to install kmuddy which depends on libmxp005:00
avinoamkenro no what is it?05:00
ompaulleagris, don't reboot :-)05:00
nathan_twibbler, what's the card, btw... if it's an echoaudio card, there's some more stuff to do05:00
avinoamoh sweet i will try that05:00
avinoamkenro are you into muds?05:00
kenroavinoam: gtk-based, scriptable, extensible, versatile MUD client.05:00
avinoamkenro i'm dling it right now05:01
twibblernathan: Im not sure really should go and get the manual and find out ... but I have found a website which gives ins which I am trying to follow without success at the moment ...05:01
kenroIs there something about Ubuntu's setup for sudo that prevents using gtksu? I cannot get it to accept my password.05:01
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drunken-wallabyhi everyone...05:01
funkyHatkenro, use gksudo05:01
reiki_workkenro would gksudo work?05:01
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funkyHatXD05:02
platogtksu wants root's passwords while gtksudo wants yours05:02
drunken-wallabyi got a problem with a script i want to run via cron. when i run the script manually, it works fine. i added an entry to /etc/crontab and in /var/log/auth.log i see, that the cronthing runs every minute (as i wanted it). however, it seems that the script itself is not executed :( anyone got a hint where i should start looking?05:02
kenroNever heard of gtk frontend to sudo. I'll check it.05:02
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reiki_workkenro: it'll be gksudo ... not gtksudo if I recall correctly05:03
reiki_workunless maybe either works... *shrug*05:03
kenrofunkyHat: Would this allow cmdline applet program launch? Or would I still be tied to vterm?05:03
kenroreiki: okie05:03
fredforfaenI want to view my hardvare and driver info....how do i do that.....i could use infobash (i think) in kanotix , is there a similar program i could use in ubuntu?05:03
amk-sepam thinking about using ubuntu...i wanna know if all my debian packages will still work for ubuntu?05:04
Ngfredforfaen: the device manager can show most hardware05:04
platofredforfaen, hal-device-manager?05:04
bob2amk-sep: no05:04
Ngfredforfaen: System->Administration->Device Manager05:04
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UngyDoes anyone know why Ubuntu's default mysql server is old an out of date on Breezy when it was released from Mysql ab before Hoary was even out?05:04
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bob2amk-sep: do not try to install .debs meant for debian on ubuntu05:04
bob2Ungy: mysql-server-4.105:04
kenroreik:: Would this allow cmdline applet program launch? Or would I still be tied to vterm?05:04
fredforfaenNg ok thanx ill check it out , know of any cli programs?05:04
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kenroreiki: Would this allow cmdline applet program launch? Or would I still be tied to vterm?05:04
Ngfredforfaen: no, sorry05:04
fredforfaendamn , infobash was good05:05
Ungybob2 I realize that but why is 4.1 not the standard05:05
Jhairdrunken-wallaby, does the script redirects its output to a log file?05:05
bob2Ungy: presumably it broke compatibilty in some way05:05
amk-sepbob2: :(..this disappointed me :(05:05
bob2Ungy: surely the changelog mentions it05:05
platokenro, use plain sudo then05:05
Jhairdrunken-wallaby, so that you can check if the script is being run at all05:05
bob2amk-sep: why?  it's like every other derivative of debian.05:05
Ungybob2 4.1 has a different password schema so all future packages should be written agains the new password type05:05
funkyHatkenro, gksudo is mainly useful for making launchers, or using the run programs dialog05:06
kenroplato: I don't wanna be stuck with having to page back to vterm to launch a program with root privs.05:06
Ungybob2 the inclusion of -old-passwords fixes the compatability problem05:06
amk-sepbob2: does ubuntu have a similar number of packages like debian?05:07
fredforfaenNg that gave me a good view of my hardware , now i wanna se my driver status like nvidia , openGL and such....05:07
bob2amk-sep: yes05:07
drunken-wallabyjhair: aehm, within the script i create a screenshot, resize it and want to copy the file to my ftp server. however, when i manually run the script, everything works, when i wait for cron, nothing happens...05:07
Ungyamk-sep, why not check their repositories and see if they have what you need more then likely they will05:07
kenrofunkyHat: So why would gksu be disabled?05:07
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thoreauputicamk-sep: practically everythingin Debian is available inthe Ubuntu repos05:07
funkyHatkenro, because su and gksu use the root password, which is disabled in ubuntu05:07
platokenro, just use gksudo instead.. gksu wants root's password which isnt set by default05:07
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funkyHatin favour of sudo05:08
amk-sepok thank you all05:08
m1kedi can;t mount my ntfs partitions05:08
Ungym1ked, man mount?05:08
m1kedi upgraded to kernek k705:08
funkyHatso you got one job done :)05:08
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m1kedyes05:08
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m1kedbut in device manager05:08
kenrofunkyHat: Then, could I safely uninstall su and/or gksu?05:08
m1kedprocessor is still unknown05:09
funkyHatright, m1ked are you attempting to mount using the mount command, or fstab?05:09
m1kedand i haev athlon k7 barton ...05:09
m1kedi don;t know how to use them05:09
apokryphosm1ked: I told you how to identify yourself already :). /msg nickserv identify PASSWORD05:09
funkyHati wouldn't worry about it not knowing what processor you hvae05:09
funkyHatas long as it works05:09
Ungym1ked, did you follow the instructions under "man mount"05:09
Jhairdrunken-wallaby, it is a shell script (bash?). If yes, I would put "exec > $0.log 2>&1" (without quotes) as first instruction in the script and see if the log files is being generated (assuming the cron entry is right)05:09
m1kedim trying05:10
m1kedcan i get the exact command ? :)05:10
funkyHat/msg nickserv identify *yourpassword*05:10
drunken-wallabyJhair thanks, i'll try that now...05:10
fredforfaenAfter ubuntu install i have a k7 kernel , and i got a Athlon 2400+ Xp ....why is that?05:10
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m1kedit's ok05:10
kenrofunkyHat: Could I safely uninstall su and/or gksu?05:11
kenrofunkyHat: Prolly not su...05:11
esaci am trying to install vmware in breezy and it complains that my kernel was compiled with gcc 3.4.5, but i have 4.0.2 installed. can i pickup a kernel compiled with 4.0.2 somewhere or do i have to compile it myself ?05:11
funkyHatyes, i guess so, but they are pointless to remove, they are so small05:11
m1kedcan someone talk to m on private05:11
m1kedto help e with my ntfs problem05:11
funkyHatyes05:11
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brennerfredforfaen: did you get an option to choose which kernel you wanted during install?05:12
elad`So, before I go home and install Ubuntu as my primary OS, I need to know - will I have trouble with my Radeon 9800 and/or my internet connection (a VPN like thingie, with a password and a username provided by the ISP, not the telephone company)?05:12
bob2esac: install gcc-3.4, run it as "CC=gcc-3.4 /path/to/vmware-config.pl"05:12
gerarconehi, how can i use a gdm-theme downloaded from internet?05:12
fredforfaenbrenner no i didnt05:12
bob2esac: note that it *will* oops your kernel without any2any patches05:12
fredforfaenbrenner this is hoary05:12
kenrofunkyHat: Pointless to remove, pointless to leave in. Now I'm really "confused".05:12
bob2elad`: you need to do a lot more research into your internet connection05:13
esacbob2: any2any patches ?05:13
elad`I can provide specifics.05:13
elad`What information should I look up?05:13
fissyi'm running vmware 5.5 with a stock 686 kernel on breezy05:14
funkyHatkenro, not necessarily pointless to leave in, you may decide you want to enable the root password at some point05:14
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funkyHatbut i see your point05:14
brennerfredforfaen: and this is with an official i386 install cd?05:14
fredforfaenthe dvd brenner05:14
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esacbob2 : would it be safer if i just compiled my kernel with 4.0.2 ?05:15
kenrofunkyHat: OK, so... What's the security concerns on "enabling root password"?05:15
fredforfaenbrenner it works and is pretty fast so im not complaining , but its wierd05:15
fissyesac, I really doubt it05:15
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bob2esac: no05:15
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fissyjust install the gcc-3.4 binary and set CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.405:15
bob2elad`: e.g. waht exactly it is05:15
elad`Shit. Did I miss anything?05:15
fissyas bob said05:15
funkyHatkenro, for new users, more than one password to forget, plus root actions aren't logged, where sudo is logged05:15
bob2elad`: "vpn thing" is not very specific05:16
esacbob2: btw, there seems to be a bug with breezy. i have a HT system, but it only installed a UP kernel. or is that the way it is supposed to be05:16
drunken-wallabyJhair where does this exec command redirect the logfile to?05:16
bob2esac: that's the way it is supposed to be05:16
brennerfredforfaen: heh, been a while since my CD was shipped i guess....yeah, dunno...just install the linux-686 package and reboot and you've got your 686 kernel05:16
esacfissy: but what are the any2any patches i need so i dont oops my kernel05:16
bob2esac: unless you're doing a netinstall05:16
bob2esac: install linux-686-smp05:16
fissyesac, I don't know what he means either, but I don't have such patches05:16
fissyesac, and it works fine here05:16
leopardIs there a way to temporarily enable the root account? (not sudo) The Samsung Laser ML-1610 wants a root account to install the linux driver.05:16
fredforfaenbrenner i did that , and then i had to reinstall nvidia , did it manually and it borked my system05:16
esacfissy: ok, thanks05:16
Jhairdrunken-wallaby,  to $0.log, i.e a file with the name of your script and .log extension.05:16
bob2fissy: you're uing vmware 5 on 2.6.12?05:16
elad`An ethernet card on my board is connected to an ADSL modem, B-Focus 312+. I manually initiate the connection each time I boot WinXP, and need to provide a username and password for the connection.05:17
bob2leopard: sudo paswd root ; sudo passwd -l root05:17
fissy5.5, and yes05:17
fredforfaenbrenner and i did it by the book05:17
fissybob2, ^05:17
elad`PPPoE, I believe.05:17
bob2elad`: that sounds like normal pppoe05:17
bob2elad`: right, that will work fine05:17
elad`https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE05:17
bob2fissy: hm, afaict it's just not compatible with kernels >=2.6.12 (from google)05:17
brennerfredforfaen: which book'd that be? :)05:17
kenrofunky:logging is a good thing... IF you have regular multi-users. This is a situation I've been unable to bring to fruition.05:17
funkyHatlol05:18
elad`It will probably ask me a lot of question whose answers I won't know. Well, let's see if my regional Linux groups have put up a readable howto by now.05:18
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funkyHatwell, it's not my policy :P05:18
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funkyHati just use ubuntu :P05:18
bob2elad`: it asks about 5 questions, all of which are quite simple05:18
fredforfaenbrenner dont have the linke just here , but i did it but the unofficial ubuntu guide first , that didnt work , then i did it by a howto made for debian05:18
fissybob2, possibly mine is just working because i have a beta of 5.5 which has been fixed05:18
kenrofunkyh: And I just realized there are more than one funky one.05:19
bob2elad`: the only mildly complicated bit is partioning if you have existing things on your disk05:19
bob2fissy: ah, that must be it05:19
kenrofunkyHat: And I just realized there are more than one funky one.05:19
bob2fissy: is that generally available now?05:19
brennerfredforfaen: double badness....05:19
shawarmaAm I the only one who didn't get an e-mail from ShipIt when the ordering for Breezy CD's opened?05:19
funkyHatmore than one funky what?05:19
fissybob2, it's free to sign up for05:19
fredforfaenbrenner the last one borked the system , lotsa segment faults and stuff05:19
fissybob2, and publically free to sign up for05:19
funkyHatno you aren't shawarma, should we have got emails?05:19
elad`It's going to ask me for IP addresses I don't know and such.05:19
brennerfredforfaen: doesn't surprise me...ubuntu is debian-based, but it's not debian05:19
bob2elad`: no it won't05:20
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fredforfaenbrenner yeah i guess i learned that to....05:20
bob2fissy: right, thanks05:20
brennerfredforfaen: and the wiki should be looked at before the guide05:20
leopardbob2: huh, doesn't switch to root user.05:20
fissywhy does ubuntu's website use a certificate authority which they haven't installed in their browser?!05:20
shawarmafunkyHat: For a while shipit was closed, and instead there was a form where you could enter your e-mail if you wanted an e-mail when it opened again..05:20
twibblernathan: I believe the driver is SigmaTel AC97 Audio Adapter05:20
bob2leopard: indeed05:20
fredforfaenbrenner aha05:20
fissyand for that matter, why does a wiki need to use HTTPS?!05:20
elad`I'll do the thing on vmware now and see what it asks, stand by to assist.05:20
bob2fissy: long tedious story05:20
funkyHatshawarma, ahh05:20
fredforfaenso what wiki should i use?05:20
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brennerwiki.ubuntu.com05:21
drunken-wallabyJhair thx. after changing the script i've now several cron entries in /var/log/auth.log,  however i can't find a log file even though i did an updatedb + locate myscript |grep log.05:21
brenner!nvidia05:21
ubotuwell, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia05:21
brennerfredforfaen: that page probably05:21
leagrisfissy, that would be nice indeed to have the certificate ready loaded in firefox, konqueror, mozilla.. builds05:21
bob2leopard: you'd switch to root at some point between enabling it and disabling it05:21
fissyleagris, it's only a user preference isn't it? something to be set in /etc/skel ?05:21
leagristh'ats not a big deal though05:22
fredforfaenbrenner ok thax05:22
fredforfaenthanx*05:22
brennerfredforfaen: no sweat05:22
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kahuna_Hi05:22
Jhair-e05:22
kahuna_Where do I define static routes in ubuntu?05:22
Jhairdrunken-wallaby, strange the file should generated for sure, if the script is executed (does the log exists if you run the script manually?)05:22
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leagrisfissy, don't know where the certificate goes. If it is for a user profile it goes inside the wierd profile directory names, you can not set up this in /etc/skel05:23
apsynchi, is there a program for linux where I can mount iso files?05:23
leagrisbut you can put the certificate system wide inside the application main config dirs05:23
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nathan_apsync, yeah... mount :)05:24
funkyHat:)05:24
apsync:o05:24
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LasseLapsync, mount -o loop file.iso05:24
fredforfaenbrenner is this a good kernel? linux-image-2.6.11-1-68605:24
apsyncok thank you, what does loop?05:24
scenestarthe kernel is awesome05:24
LasseLyou tell me :)05:25
fredforfaeni heard that linux-image-2.6.11-1-686  is broken?05:25
fredforfaenis that true?05:25
brennerfredforfaen: yeah, not sure to tell you the truth05:25
fredforfaenhmm05:25
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nathan_apsync, it mounts it as a "loopback device".  Basically, not a real device (aas I understand it)05:25
scenestarit worksfine05:25
apsyncoh Ok05:25
fredforfaenscenestar you talking to me?05:25
scenestaryeah05:25
apsyncand how do I unmount?05:25
fredforfaenscenestar ok thanx ill try it , and then do the nvidia wiki thingy05:26
nathan_umount <mountpoint>05:26
LasseLapsync, umount "/mountpoint"05:26
apsyncok thank y ou05:26
scenestarfredforfaen: it is a fact that a kernel upgrade is usually only recommended if necessary05:26
naliothfredforfaen: no it is not05:26
kenrofunkyHat: Point is, would it break sudo if I uninstall gksu? Prolly would screw it if I uninstall su, but can I prevent it from being invoked directly, as it seems blocked from authentication?05:26
naliothfredforfaen: odd number kernels are testing kernels 2.6.11 is testing 2.6.12 is stable05:27
LasseLapsync, why it isn't available as an option when you rightclick an iso in nautilus is wierd to me though05:27
funkyHatkenro, i should think you could alias su for sudo and gksu for gksudo05:27
drunken-wallabyJhair when i manually run the script, the log-file is generated in /usr/local/bin where i placed the script05:27
apsynchmm05:27
elad`What about if I normally connect by pptp? Right now I'm connected. How do I check the preferences of the connection that I'll later need to tell Ubuntu?05:27
brennernalioth: isn't breezy going to ship with .13?05:27
funkyHatkenro, so they would just do the right thing instead of giving an error05:27
fissynalioth, that hasn't been true for probably a year now05:27
elad`PPTP05:27
fredforfaennalioth this is better then?linux-image-2.6.10-5-68605:27
LasseLapsync, as in "they should have thought of that", not that your config is wierd05:27
fredforfaenim confused.....05:27
fissyor indeed ever05:28
fredforfaenwhat 686 kernel should i go for?05:28
funkyHatfredforfaen, what processor do you have?05:28
naliothfredforfaen: if you are using hoary, you are using the 2.6.1005:28
kenrofunkyHat: I'll explore aliasing, then. And install gksudo. Thanks.05:28
ugo__so why is mine 2.6.12?05:29
naliothbrenner: breezy has 2.6.12 shipping05:29
fredforfaenfunkyHat nalioth its a Athlon XP 2400 and yes im using hoary05:29
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funkyHatkenro, gksudo should be installed by default... it's used by all the programs in system > administration05:29
ugo__ahh...im using breezy...05:29
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leagrisfissy, you can put ce cert8.db inside /etc/mozilla-firefox/profile/05:29
fissyI have a weird login problem: When i login the splash comes up and metacity loads, but nothing else for about 2 minutes, so i'm stuck staring at a splash screen. Any ideas?05:29
fissyleagris, cool :)05:29
ugo__fissy: is your loopback device enabled?05:29
leagrisThis may provide system wide certificates for mozilla. Not tested though05:29
fissyugo__, ?05:30
fredforfaennalioth funkyHat im currently on a k7 kernel...and that cant be right....can it?05:30
funkyHatyes that is right05:30
brennerfissy: does it resume, or freezes?05:30
naliothfredforfaen: you are alright with the k7 kernel05:31
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fredforfaenoh ok05:31
fissybrenner, it sits at the splash screen with nothing else for about 2 minutes and then after that the desktop suddenely starts loading as normal05:31
fredforfaennalioth so i shouldnt go for 686 , thought it gave me better preformace05:31
goo_fissy: I bet you have a DNS problem05:31
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naliothfredforfaen: it's your choice, you (as a human) aren't gonna see that much difference05:31
fissythis is probably not ubuntu's fault as the home dir has come from an older install, but it would be nice to not have to delete all the dot files i have05:32
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brennerfissy: i had the same issue, but mine hard froze...display driver was the cause05:32
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kenrofunkyHat: One possibility... When I invoke synaptic, I get an authentication dialog that succeeds in launching synaptic with root privs. When I try to launch filemanager with root privs, it fails to authenticate. This is due to two seperate athentication dialogs?05:32
twibblernathan: I have found a patch on the SIS site .....05:32
fredforfaenok nalioth , thanx for the advice...i think the k7 kernel is pretty fast so ill guess ill stick to that05:32
fissygoo_, i'm almost certain of that too, something is waiting to time out. Also if i start gnome-session manually it says it can't find localhost :s localhost is definitely in the hosts file though05:32
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goo_fissy: what happens if you click the splash screen?05:32
funkyHatkenro, try executing gksudo nautilus05:32
fissybrenner, no, i'm sure mine is not at all hardware related05:32
synicanyone else having trouble with initramfs-tools ?05:32
freiteis there a howto for install without a cdrom (USBdrive or netboot)?05:33
fissygoo_, it goes away, and I still have to wait two minutes, just without the splash05:33
goo_fissy: right. Sounds like the problem I have been having a few times. Always turned out to be a bad /etc/resolv.conf in my case.05:33
kenrofunkyHat: ehyep... synaptic uses gksudo...05:34
fissygoo_, a formating error?05:34
funkyHatyes05:34
goo_fissy: no. A non-responding nameserver entry :)05:34
goo_but i gtg05:34
brennerfreite: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation05:35
naliothfreite: see the wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootHowto05:35
fredforfaenand thanx to everybody here for good help...just one more thing sice i got your attention , is there a good program in ubuntu that does the same thing as infobash?05:35
freiteoki05:35
kenrofunkyHat: I think I'll just use launcher icons, and get rid of the cmdline applet.05:35
fissygoo_, the nameserver is fine, i've tried it on different nameservers. Why would it be asking the nameserver whom localhost is anyway?05:35
ugo__fissy: i used to have a problem getting my boot right until i enabled my loopback device05:35
fissyis ugo__ trying to be funny?05:35
ugo__fissy: no i am not fissy...05:36
funkyHatkenro, doesn't using gksudo work from the command line applet? :S05:36
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fissyugo__, sorry, I really don't understand what you're getting at05:36
ugo__fissy: let me explain05:36
kenrofunkyHat: Good point.05:36
kenrofunkyHat: Now I've started talking out my butt...05:36
ugo__fissy: if your computer has a hostname and the hostname is mapped to the loopback device05:36
drunken-wallabyJhair the entry in my /etc/crontab is as follows: "00-59/5 * * * * root myscript.sh". i added /usr/local/bin to the PATH-variable in /etc/crontab as well. hm, strange...05:37
ugo__fissy: and apparently my loopback device was not enabled on bootup05:37
funkyHatlol, kenro, as long as you get what you wanted to do working. i was confused by what you were saying anyway :P05:37
naliothwell this sucks05:37
ugo__fissy: my logins would not complete...it would merely pause there....05:37
fissyugo__, I'm not sure how that could happen, but my lo is definitely there05:37
brennerfredforfaen: what does it do exactly?05:37
fissy          inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.005:37
fissy etc etc05:37
funkyHatfredforfaen, what does infobash do?05:38
ugo__fissy: in older versions of gnome it would notify you that it couldnt find your computers hostname05:38
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fissyugo__, yeah, i remember that used to happen05:38
fredforfaenbrenner displays kernel , hd , opengl driver , nvidia , ram and so on05:38
ugo__fissy: because i had some experience with that...i knew what to do05:38
kenrofunkyHat: The whole thing is I didn't know about gksudo, and would like to know if gksu can be safely uninstalled.05:38
ugo__fissy; just trying to help man05:38
brennerfredforfaen: neat...what distro had it?05:38
fredforfaenkanotix05:38
fissyugo__, sorry, i know :)05:38
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blekoshelllooooooooooooo world05:39
blekos:))05:39
scenestaroi05:39
Herbal_Childwhats the fastest way to reformatt and external to fat?05:39
blekosi am official an ubuntian !!!05:39
Herbal_Childlol05:39
gregoriaso heres the full problem05:39
mindmedicblekos, having a good day ey?05:39
fissyugo__, the hostname of my computer is shuttle, and shuttle is in /etc/hosts on the line beginning 127.0.0.105:39
mindmedic:)05:39
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fredforfaenbrenner kanotix05:39
blekosjust installed ubuntu05:39
scenestarhmmmm05:39
scenestarlike it?05:39
blekoshad tried, mepis, mandriva2006, suse05:39
kenrofunkyHat: I'm also discovering I'm not as adept at written expression as I thought I was.05:40
blekosyes & no05:40
scenestarlet me guess05:40
gregoriaits in the flood channel, can someone help me out05:40
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scenestaryou like the "it justs works way"05:40
blekoswow, it'been years since my last chat in irc :)05:40
gregoriaor would people mind if i pasted 17 lines in here05:40
scenestarbut you hate the "lsuerfriendlyness"05:40
blekosshort of scenestar05:40
ugo__fissy: k...05:40
vegiVamphas anyone had success connecting kopete to google talk ?05:40
blekosbut I need help ...05:40
ugo__fissy: good luck then...05:40
funkyHatkenro, lol. it's not an easy skill. although maybe the problem is that i'm just too dopey to understand :P05:40
fissyugo__, lol :'(05:41
gregoriaIve a Dell Poweredge 800 with which I installed Ubuntu to the main disk that came with it, a 74gb SCSI. Its set-up for file serving etc. and all was working fine. This week I got 2 new 250gb SATA drives and installed them. I went into BIOS and enabled the new drives. Simple. Then saved changes and exited. Then everything was working fine at the startup until... and heres the log...05:41
gregoriaUncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.05:41
gregoriaetc. etc.05:41
gregoriaThen Starting Ubuntu05:41
gregoriaata1: disabling port05:41
gregoriasdb: asking for cache data failed05:41
mindmedicblekos, nice you made it.. and judging your happiness it must have went well05:41
gregoriasdb: assuming drive cache: write through05:41
gregoriasdb: asking for cache data failed05:41
gregoriasdb: assuming drive cache: write through05:41
gregoriapivot_root: No such file or directory05:41
blekosmy repositorie seems not to work so the sound05:41
gregoria/sbin/init: 428: cannot open dev/console: No such file05:41
wickedpuppyvegiVamp, i use gaim and it woorks05:41
gregoriaKernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!05:41
scenestargregoria05:41
gregoriaThis is the error is from when i removed the first SATA drive from port0 to port 1 while having the 2nd drive in port2. The problem was more or less the same with the other port config. If I disable the SATA drives from BIOS it will boot into Ubuntu again, no problem. What could be wrong?05:41
funkyHatkenro, tbh, if you try to uninstall gksu, and it doesn't moan about dependencies, then i'd say there's no problem at all05:41
blekoswell, mindmedic, I like the people and idea around it05:41
wickedpuppygregoria, pls don05:41
scenestarDONT FLOOD05:41
DaSkreechCan i upgrade the kernel for Ubuntu if the computer cannot boot?05:41
vegiVampwickedpuppy: tried that, too, didn't work either :-(05:41
kenrofunkyHat: okie05:41
wickedpuppygregoria, pls don't [aste05:41
gregoriashit man sorry05:41
funkyHatkenro, if there is, and it breaks your system, report it as a bug ;)05:41
gregoriai pasted into flood first05:41
blekosi'm thinking of becomin a full time linux user05:41
wickedpuppyno kid vegiVamp ... i am using it right now05:41
vegiVampwickedpuppy: I believe you :-)05:42
scenestarblekos: please do05:42
gregoriai assume tho that many ppl in here knowing how to help may not be in the flood channel05:42
MyriosDaSkreech: Yes, but only if you boot with a rescue disk or another distro05:42
blekos;) np scen05:42
wickedpuppybut what error you got vegiVamp ?05:42
vegiVampwickedpuppy: what version of qca-tls are you running ?05:42
MyriosDaSkreech: Like DamnSmall05:42
Laneywhere does the live cd mount the hdd of the computer it's running on?05:42
scenestargregoria: if you act liek a jerk i have no intention of helping you anyways05:42
DaSkreechMyrios: So I an use the Ubuntu install CD and do it?05:42
vegiVampwickedpuppy: There was an error authenticating with the server: Login failed with unknown reason.05:42
naliothmy breezy test box is dead-in-the-water05:42
vegiVampvery helpful :-)05:42
blekosis it true that i can install allmost everything that's available for debian?05:42
wickedpuppyvegiVamp, i am using latest updated breezy05:43
scenestarblekos: yes05:43
vegiVampah05:43
gregoriascenestar: sorry, wont doo it again05:43
blekoscool05:43
vegiVampI'll try installing that one then05:43
DaSkreechMyrios: With Rescue Mode?05:43
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MyriosDaSkreech: That's the general idea.05:43
nathan_Laney, I don't think the live CD mounts the host hardrive by default.  If it did it would probably be in /media05:43
kenrofunkyHat: The following packages will be REMOVED: firestarter* gdm* gdm-themes* gksu* gnome-netstatus-applet* gnome-sudo*  gnome-system-tools* gparted*05:43
wickedpuppyvegiVamp, i don't even have qca-tls installed05:43
wickedpuppylol05:43
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kenrofunkyHat: Bah05:43
vegiVamphmm05:43
DaSkreechMyrios: Apt-get install new-kernel-version?05:43
funkyHatkenro, i wouldn't do that then ;)05:43
gregoriacan you help scenestar05:43
kenroIndeed05:43
vegiVampah, right, gaim :-)05:44
funkyHatin fact, it's those packages that need fixing05:44
MyriosDaSkreech: Yes. You'll need to mount your install partition and chroot into your installation first05:44
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funkyHatthey should depend on gksu OR gksudo05:44
DaSkreechMyrios: Thanks05:44
MyriosDaSkreech: After that it's plain sailing.05:44
MyriosDaSkreech: No worries.05:44
blekosok my first prob is that I cannot see windows partitions... any ideas or commands - sorry but i am  A Newbie (with capital "n")05:44
brennerfredforfaen: you can use CLI commands for some of those...maybe search the repo for utilities?05:45
funkyHatblekos:05:45
funkyHat!ntfs05:45
ubotuntfs is probably the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.05:45
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DaSkreechMyrios: Will it give me the option to boot into the old kernel if things are horribly worng?05:45
funkyHatblekos, go to that link (winmac_fstab),save it to your home directory, and follow the instructions in it05:45
DaSkreechThough they are horribly wrong now :-(05:46
brennerblekos: re the debian remark...DON'T use debian packages...use ubuntu ones. :)05:46
MyriosDaSkreech: As a rule, apt overwrites the old image with the new one.05:46
MyriosDaSkreech: Out of interest, what's the kernel that's causing you problems?05:46
DaSkreechMyrios: can I avoid that?> With dpkg maybe?05:46
DaSkreechMyrios: 2.6.10.-305:46
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stormiehow do i get help here with some boot problems after installing ubuntu?05:47
blekosfunky: what link...05:47
DaSkreechIt throws infinite logical block errors on boot05:47
DaSkreechOne for each block I think05:47
funkyHatblekos, the one that ubotu said05:47
blekossave to say that I like it here :)05:47
MyriosDaSkreech: That's an interesting one. :S05:47
fredforfaenbrenner good idea05:47
blekosok05:47
DaSkreechMyrios: Very. Installed 20 times so far. Did research and the only common thing I see with others getting the error is the kernel05:48
MyriosDaSkreech: You should be able to install the new kernel image alongside the old but I confess I've never had to do it so I couldn't tell you how.05:48
DaSkreechMyrios: Who could?05:48
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DaSkreechMyrios: Forget I'll just over write and if it dies I'll run 2105:48
MyriosDaSkreech: k05:49
MyriosDaSkreech: Good luck05:49
DaSkreechMyrios: Thank you very much05:49
blekosby the way, I'm for greece05:49
stormiecan someone help me with the following? ::: i havent been able to boot windows ever since installing ubuntu05:49
DaSkreechblekos: I'm from the Caribbean :)05:49
vegiVampgrmbl, no dice05:49
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blekos:)05:49
vegiVampoh well05:49
crearthi all, a question; is it possible to easely change the ubuntu load screen, the sandy colours to some blue'ish ones?!05:49
MyriosHow so stormie?05:49
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vegiVampcreart: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :-D05:50
DaSkreechvegiVamp: Good one ;)05:50
funkyHatheh05:50
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stormiewhen i try to boot from the grub boot loader menu, a screen flashes saying Grub Loading Stage 2, then goes back to the boot menu05:50
funkyHata neater way would be to choose a different gdm theme05:50
vegiVampfunkyHat: spoilsport :-)05:50
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brennercreart: define "load screen"05:51
Myriosstormie: How is your system set up? Where does the windows partition reside?05:51
stormie1st hd, 1st partition05:51
funkyHatyes, but you could be spoiling creart's day :P telling him do download 400MB of packages05:51
Myriosstormie: And ubuntu?05:51
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creartdefine "load screen"??05:52
funkyHatcreart, system > administration > login screen setup05:52
stormiei believe its hd(0,4) at least thats where its booted from when i look at /boot/grub/menu.lst05:52
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funkyHatbrenner, i'm pretty sure he means gdm05:52
funkyHat:P05:52
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vegiVampdoesn't everyone have 100mbit ? :-p05:52
stormiei think i messed up the partitions, but i tried every partition on my hd for booting windows, 0,0 is the only 1 that gets me anywhere (the Grub Stage 2 Loading screen)05:52
funkyHatvegiVamp, no, only me and you apparently. ;)05:53
creartk, ill try it..05:53
Myriosstormie: Hmm.05:53
Myriosstormie: You can boot into Ubuntu ok?05:53
stormieyes05:53
brennerfunkyHat: he "could" mean the splash screen05:53
funkyHattrue05:53
funkyHathe could also mean the _other_ splash screen05:53
brenneror the bg during the splashscreen (which btw, i'd like to know how to chnage) :D05:54
Myriosstormie: Perhaps try creating a rescue bootdisk05:54
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vegiVampsee ? at least my solution would've fixed all splash screens :-)05:54
Myriosstormie: And then clearing your master boot record.05:54
brennerfunkyHat: which would that be?  i only know of the 2 :)05:54
sonojackerhello friends05:54
Myriosstormie: That *might* let you boot into windows, and if not you can still boot into Ubuntu.05:54
sonojackeranyone having the udev problem (not creating the /dev/input/mice and other nodes) at bugs 12915 and 14226?05:55
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stormiemyrios: how do i create a rescue bootdisk/clear my master boot record :P05:55
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Myriosstormie: The only issue may be that your Windows bootloader is hosed for some reason.05:55
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Myriosstormie: :P05:55
funkyHatbrenner, yes, that's what i mean, there are two05:55
Myriosstormie: One moment, I'll get some URLs for you.05:55
Herbal_Childwill ubuntu recognize NTFS partitions?05:55
stormieok thanks05:55
Herbal_Childor must it be fat05:55
funkyHatHerbal_Child, it will be able to read them, but not write to them05:55
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Herbal_Childwhats the easiest way i can format this external to fat...windows or linux05:56
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funkyHatbut it can read and write fat/fat32 perfectly fine05:56
brennerisn't NTFS-write possible with one distro?  forgot wchich...05:56
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funkyHatHerbal_Child, either is easy05:56
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Herbal_Childi know there is a command in linux but forgot what05:56
funkyHatbrenner, it's possible with any distro, with the right stuff installed, i don't think it's safe though05:56
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blekosnice05:57
Herbal_Childdo you happen to know the command? it would be /sda05:57
twibblernathan: sorry to bother you but I found out which card ... it is a realtekALC65505:57
brennerfunkyHat: ah ok.... just that i thought i read it had it set by default...it was one of those windows look-alike ones iirc05:57
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blekoshow is that and ubuntu does not have it pre-installed?05:57
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sonojackersorry... anyone having the udev problem (not creating the /dev/input/mice and other nodes) at bugs 12915 and 14226?05:58
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funkyHatbrenner, ah, in that case it's possible that they have some proprietary ntfs driver which supports writing05:58
Herbal_ChildfunkyHat, ?05:58
ashzero!sun05:58
ubotuashzero: I haven't a clue05:58
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ashzero!sun java05:58
ubotuashzero: What?05:58
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brennerfunkyHat: yes, was probably the case05:58
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Myriosstormie: Balls. Forgot Ubuntuguide was down.05:58
ashzero!j2re05:59
ubotuashzero: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!05:59
brenner!java05:59
ubotuTo install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java or, for Sun's Java, ask me about !sunjava05:59
funkyHatHerbal_Child, do this: sudo apt-get install gparted05:59
ashzero!java05:59
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Herbal_Childawesome05:59
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Myriosstormie: Okay. You can create a grub floppy by going to a terminal and typing sudo grub-floppy05:59
funkyHatHerbal_Child, then use gparted to format the drive :)05:59
Herbal_Childeasier05:59
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Herbal_Child:)05:59
Herbal_Childty05:59
funkyHatnp05:59
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stormiehmm ok05:59
funkyHat:)05:59
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terabyteshello05:59
misterdiffhey all. last time i used my laptop my battery ran out on me while in the process of working with firefox. i rebooted just now and when i try to launch firefox it says that its using another profile because firefox is already running on my machine, but its not. i suspect it's because my i did not go through the shutdown process last time. how can i fix this?06:00
Herbal_Childwhats with the .gov repo????06:00
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Herbal_Childthat freaks me out06:00
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terabytesis there an italian?06:00
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funkyHatHerbal_Child, there is a .gov repo?06:00
Herbal_Childftp://mirror.mcs.anl.gov06:00
blekoshi06:00
apsyncterabytes, in #ubuntu-it yes :)06:00
terabytesok06:01
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terabytesthanks a lot06:01
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terabytesbye06:01
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funkyHatthat's a bit scary...06:01
Jhairdrunken-wallaby, are you sure anacron isn't running06:01
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stormieMyrios: when i run fdisk06:01
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Jhairdrunken-wallaby, I reproduced the problem of no log output and the problem was, anacron and cron were running06:02
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stormieit shows me that the ntfs partition starts at 1276 instead of 1, is that a problem?06:02
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Jhairdrunken-wallaby, I stopped anacron and cron read the /etc/crontab file and the logs were there...06:02
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brennerfunkyHat: what is? italians? :)06:02
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funkyHatno06:02
vladuz976what are the major bugs in breezy at the moment? i installed hoary today, but there is lots of stuff that has been taken out of the repositories for hoary it seems. breezy would be more convenient.06:02
brenners/is/are06:02
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funkyHat.gov repos :P06:02
drunken-wallabyJhair ps -A|grep cron just shows cron and crontab and no anacron06:02
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Herbal_Childwow EASY...gparted is awesome06:03
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funkyHat:)06:04
gregoriais it possible to set the kernel mount point manuallly06:04
Herbal_ChildMUCH better than some expensive commercial windows software06:04
drunken-wallaby Jhair i just played around a bit and read in the log-file the following error; import: unable to open X server ( i use import to create a screenshot)06:04
gregoriain the grub config or something06:04
gregoriaor how can I find out what disk the kernel is trying to load on06:04
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funkyHatgregoria, yes, in the grub menu list file. /boot/grub/menu.lst06:05
gregoriammmh, it says (hd0,0)06:06
astritzhI'm having problems with ipw2200 driver. It is complaingin about firmwae. The firmware files are in right place /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/. I also tried echo 100 > /sys/class/firmware/timeout but it does not work. Any hint ?06:06
gregoriaand it works fine with just my SCSI disk06:06
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gregoriasince I installed the two new SATA drives it wont load.06:07
gregoriaIs there anything simple im not think of06:07
gregoria*thinking06:07
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blekosafk06:07
gregoriawith the SATA drives in it says uncompressing linux etc.06:09
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gregoriaso it can find the kernel anyway06:09
gregoriawhats causing the kernel panic06:09
thoreauputicastritzh: try echo 100 | sudo tee /sys/class/firmware/timeout  ( this is the problem with using echo with sudo, if that's what you tried)06:09
stormiemount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp06:10
stormieis that the right command for mounting an ntfs partition for reading on ubuntu?06:10
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boxerboyhi everyone is this where we get to smack the writters of breezy? lol06:11
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gregoriain menu.lst where it says /dev/sda1. Can this be modified to include hd0,006:12
gregoriawhere it says root=/dev/sda1 i mean06:12
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funkyHatboxerboy, no, it's more likely where they smack you06:12
funkyHat;)06:13
boxerboylol06:13
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boxerboywell iv been crashing all damn morning06:13
stormiemount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp06:13
stormieis that the right command for mounting an ntfs partition for reading on ubuntu?06:13
boxerboyand for once its not my fault06:13
Doncasperits called unstable for a reason06:13
funkyHatboxerboy, well. breezy has not been released yet06:13
ompaulthoreauputic, it seems to me that there is need for another command like sudo that provides all that extra functionality (echo $1 | sudo tee foo) what ya think?06:13
naliothstormie: there's a nice script you can use /msg ubotu ntfs06:13
funkyHatso you can't really complain ;)06:13
boxerboyyeah i know and it worked great till this mornings updates06:13
funkyHatplease file bug reports :)06:13
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leagrisone question about this channel06:14
ompaulthoreauputic, doh (echo $1 | sudo tee $2) what ya think?06:14
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leagriswhat is the appropriate charset for user here ?06:14
naliothompaul: you just confused the fire outta me (what do you think you've done to the new users?)06:14
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ompaulnalioth, hmm06:14
leagrisIf not specified, xchat use default system charset which is UTF-8 with ubuntu06:14
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ompaulthere is that06:14
athastormie: yes, and "-o ro" option mounts it read-only06:14
ompaulsorry folks06:14
stormieatha: is it even possible to write to ntfs from linux?06:15
astritzhthoreauputic, I've tried again same problem06:15
astritzh[4295682.280000]  ipw2200: ipw-2.3-boot.fw load failed: Reason -206:15
astritzh[4295682.280000]  ipw2200: Unable to load firmware: 0xFFFFFFFE06:15
astritzh[4295682.280000]  ipw2200: failed to register network device06:15
astritzh[4295682.285000]  ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:06:03.0 disabled06:15
astritzh[4295682.285000]  ipw2200: probe of 0000:06:03.0 failed with error -506:15
astritzhthis is the error I'm getting06:15
naliothastritzh: do NOT paste in here06:15
athastormie: i'm not sure about the current status of write-support06:15
naliothastritzh: read the /topic06:15
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astritzhnalioth, srr06:15
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naliothstormie: writing to NTFS will lead to an all linux box06:16
ompaulastritzh, Don't paste in here use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl06:16
stormieok06:16
brennernalioth: heh06:16
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stormienalioth: sry, how do i use that utility , im new to linux =\06:16
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brennernalioth: yes, how does he/she use that.? :)06:17
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boxerboyi dont know either06:17
leagrislater...06:17
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naliothstormie: you download it and read it in a text editor06:17
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naliothstormie: if you have further questions after that, please ask06:17
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brennerwhoops..thought he meant writing to NTFS. :)06:18
stormieim reading it in the browser06:18
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naliothstormie: brenner: most shell scripts have instructions in them (they can be opened with a text editor)06:18
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stormieindeed, thanks06:18
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joaquinzhi, i cant play music with amarok-arts in kubuntu06:19
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joaquinzthe same problem with noatun.. i click play but it doesnt do anything... no errors, no messages ,nothing06:20
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stormienalioth: ok i ran the script, where do i see the ntfs partition now?06:21
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ompaulSeveas, howya06:21
naliothSeveas: mornin06:21
naliothstormie: look in /media i believe06:21
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ompaulits +r time06:22
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stormienalioth: it made a bunch of directories in it (65gb disk hda1, floppy0, cdrom0) but they are all empty06:23
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Seveashaia haia06:23
Seveasthe X bug bit me today :)06:23
Seveasand when I searched for the bugreport, Scott just solved it :D06:23
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linnermorning everyone06:23
naliothstormie: really?06:23
Seveas'evenin06:23
Seveaswo sep 21 18:23:48 CEST 200506:23
linnerSeveas, that too06:23
linner:)06:23
linnerwo06:24
linnerwhat is wo?06:24
stormienalioth: yes, when i ran the shell script it gave me the same msg it gives me when i tried using the mount command, where can i paste it?06:24
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linnerit's 9:24a here06:24
naliothi do not like the spambots and their nickchanging06:24
nalioth!tell stormie about paste06:24
stormiehttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d241406:25
linnerok ya'll... here's the problem... installed u 5.04 on my desktop smoothly and without any problems... tried to install ubuntu 5.1 and it hangs at the login screen... then formatted repartioned and installed Mepis without error... decided ok, let's try kubuntu as I hate mepis.. same thing... hangs at login screen... then i tried 5.04 and again, hangs at login screen06:25
linnerhow can I make ubuntu work properly?06:26
brennerlinner: sounds like a display driver issue06:26
gregoriammmmh, would it be possible that I will have to recompile the kernel with SATA drivers06:26
linneroh crap06:26
brennertried running with vesa?06:26
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linnerbrenner, what is vesa06:26
brennerlinner: do you know how to use a console-mode editor?06:27
linnerbrenner, not at all06:27
linnerbut I can load it back up and get there if you'll help me ... of course, if you have the time or patience to do so06:27
naliothSeveas: why are some users gettin this error? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/d241406:27
brennerlinner: er, try nano i guess: boot into recovery mode06:27
stormieand heres what i get when i type dmesg | tail http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/241506:27
linnerok wait one... have to go get the laptop ... it's in another room06:28
naliothstormie: your NTFS is bodgered. you need to get into windows and run scandisk to repair it06:29
linnerbrenner ok i have the gnu grub screen up now06:29
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linnerbrenner, what is "NANO"06:29
naliothlinner: choose rescue06:29
linnerthere are two versions06:29
naliothlinner: it's a console text editor06:29
linneron is default and the other is not06:30
linnernal06:30
Seveasnalioth, they specified the wrong fs06:30
linnernalioth, ok06:30
brennernalioth: you wanna take over? :)06:30
naliothlinner: default rescue06:30
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linnerok06:30
naliothbrenner: you're doin fine06:30
linnergot it... it's booting06:30
naliothSeveas: actually stormie posted the dmesg and the NTFS is scoarbled06:30
brennernalioth: i haven't got a word in yet... :D06:30
linnerbrenner, nalioth ...am I too much of a problem? :)06:30
brennerscoarbled, bodgered?06:30
linnerbodgered?06:31
brennerlinner: not at all..that's what we're in here for. :)06:31
ompaullinner,  broked06:31
linnerbrenner, you guys have saved my a$$ a number of times so I am totally in debt to you all!!06:31
linner:)06:31
linnerompaul, ahhh06:31
linnerlinuxspeak06:31
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linner:)06:31
ompaullinner, and if it is really bad it is borked06:31
brennerlinner: heh...nice to know someone else doesn't recognise those words06:31
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linnerompaul, oh noted :)06:31
stormieso is there any way to fix my ntfs?06:32
linnerbrenner, yeah... thought it was cause I'm a newb06:32
linnerbrenner, i'm at the root now06:32
brennerlinner: nah, nalioth's just crazy06:32
stormiei dont care if i lose linux at this point, because this is a new install, i can just redo it06:32
linnerbrenner, nice to know :)06:32
brennerlinner: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:32
linnerone moment06:32
stormiemy only concern is to save the files on the ntfs partition06:32
linneri'm in brenner06:33
brennerlinner: then you need to scroll down to "Section "Device""06:33
ompaulstormie, you'd have to try to boot windows and see what it does06:33
naliothstormie: yes. boot into windows and run scandisk to repair it06:33
stormiei cant boot windows06:33
linnerbrenner, there is no scrolling here06:33
naliothstormie: ouch06:33
naliothstormie: how many computers do you have?06:33
hemppacould someone tell me how to install java runtime environment to breezy?06:33
gregoriamaybe I cant you the SCSI as the primary drive. Maybe I must reinstall on the SATA and use that as my root filesystem. Could this be correct06:34
naliothlinner: use your arrow keys06:34
brennerlinner: yeah, sorry, never used nano!  thought it would be easy to use06:34
ompaul!tell hemppa about java06:34
stormiefurthermore, when i try to get into the recovery console, my keyboard stops responding, and i have to reset my bios to get it working again lol06:34
linnernalioth, i tried that ... nothing06:34
hemppathanks ompaul :)06:34
ompaulstormie, lol is laughing out loud - are you really06:34
naliothlinner: use the OTHER arrow keys (down arrow)06:34
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stormiemy other machine is rather old06:34
naliothstormie: can it burn cds?06:34
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linnernalioth, brenner i have a black and white screen  with a blinking cursor and no body text then at the bottom i have a bunch of "^" commands06:35
hemppa!sunjava06:35
ubotuFor Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)06:35
linnernalioth, i tried that too06:35
stormieyea06:35
naliothlinner: then you've opened the wrong file06:35
brennerlinner: wrong command06:35
linnernalioth i did?06:35
naliothlinner: you have06:35
linnerbut it says im in GNU nano06:35
brennerlinner: technically you're about to create the wrong file06:35
gpmhi guys. i just installed breezy and i'm wondering how i can get mplayer?06:35
naliothbrenner: give linner and absolute06:35
brennernalioth: i thought i did06:35
brennerlinner: exit06:36
linnerok06:36
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gregoriaapt-get install mplayer06:36
linneri can type it nothing happns06:36
brennerlinner: then type exactly: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:36
linnerhappens06:36
linneri did but I'll try it again06:36
gregoriasudo apt-get install mplayer06:36
naliothlinner: ctrl-x06:36
brennerlinner: ^ means ctrl06:36
nalioththere went the breezy box06:36
puffMorning... I want to upgrade my Hoary install to Breezy.  Is there a fast/easy upgrade route, or do I need to back up all my data, re-format the disk, install Breezy, then re-install all the packages I have?06:36
gpmgregoria: there is no mplayer....i need something to add to sources.list06:37
linnernalioth, thank you !06:37
linnerok i'm at the root06:37
linnerlet me retype what you gave me06:37
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nalioth!tell puff about upgrade2breezy06:37
gregoriaoh well then get the address of your nearest ftp server06:37
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linnerbrenner, nalioth ok i'm back into the same file06:37
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brennerlinner: i.e. empty?06:37
stormiedamn, installing linux ultimately owned my machine :P06:37
gpmgregoria: and how do i find the nearest ftp server that has mplayer packaged for breezy?06:38
linnerbrenner, yes06:38
brennerlinner: er, then you've typed it wrong again...06:38
naliothbrenner: he hasnt had it made yet06:38
linnerbrenner, I did????06:38
brennerlinner: the 1s in X11 are ones06:38
stormieim gonna head to class now, thanks for the help everyone06:38
naliothlinner: you are fine06:38
brennernot Ls06:38
boxerboymplayer is in synaptic no?06:38
gpmno06:38
linnersudo nano /etc/x11/xorg.conf06:38
linnerright?06:38
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brennernalioth: he hasn't?06:39
linnernalioth, ok... that's what I entered06:39
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gpmit doesn't show up when i apt-cache search for it06:39
linnerlet me type it again06:39
naliothbrenner: if it isnt there, he probably hasnt gotten that far yet06:39
dazzedy0 can someone help me with some networking problems06:39
naliothdazzed: if you ask a question06:39
fooboyI have a ubuntu box on a KVM switch when i start ubuntu box without the KVM selecting the Ubunut box the screen rez is poor06:40
brennernalioth: gotten that far in what?06:40
linnernalioth, brenner I typed it exactly the same way... still blank screen06:40
fooboyhow can i fix the screen REZ to a constant size06:40
linnerwith gnu nano 1.2.4 loaded06:40
brennerlinner: ok, exit06:40
naliothbrenner: i am probably not remembering right, but didn linner say he was installing?06:40
gregoriawell most universitys here archive all the latest linux software and distros06:40
dazzedwelll....i have my windows laptop setup to share the internet connnection...and the laptop can access the internet just fine...but my linux pc cant even ping the laptop ip06:40
linnerbrenner06:40
linnerbrenner, ok06:40
brennernalioth: iirc, he said he installed but the login screen freezes06:40
linnernalioth, I'm a she... :)06:40
naliothdazzed: i think that is a windows question06:40
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brennerlinner: _have_ you installed?06:40
linnerbrenner, yes exactly06:40
gpmgregoria: could you be a little more specific as to HOW i would find such a server?06:41
linnerbrenner, yes06:41
dazzednalioth, figured i want some help from smart people though06:41
brennerlinner: sorry about the gender... :)06:41
linnerbrenner, that's ok :)06:41
naliothdazzed: it's been many years since i used windows06:41
linnerbrenner, easy mistake since you can't see anyone :)06:41
brennerlinner: um....i guess you are missing your xorg.conf file06:41
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dazzedi just dont get why it wont fid the network06:41
dazzedits there06:41
dazzedits setup06:41
linnerbrenner, oh... sounds bad06:41
dazzedin the boot process it cant even configure network interfaces06:41
naliothlinner: type "adduser test" <<<this will add a user named test to your box06:42
linnerbrenner, how do I get it back?06:42
linnernalioth, ok06:42
naliothdazzed: b/c windows sucks06:42
brennerlinner: reconfigure the xorg package i would assume06:42
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brennerlinner: but nalioth wants to say something i think06:42
linnernalioth, i'm finished adding.. it was successful06:42
naliothbrenner: we are seeing if it's a ~/ issue06:42
gregoriagpm:try deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy -updates main restricted06:42
boxerboygpm: go to http://mplayerhq.hu06:42
linnerbrenner, oh no... shoot.. I have no idea how to do that06:43
naliothlinner: now log out and try to log into test (from the gui login)06:43
linnerok06:43
linnerone moment06:43
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gregoriaand then the same line under that with deb-src06:43
brennernalioth: how can she log out...she's in recovery mode...06:43
naliothosfameron: you'll have to build it from source06:43
naliothbrenner: same way anyone logs out06:43
osfameronnalioth: oh, really?06:43
linnerit's loading now06:43
osfameronis that documented on wiki, or on the mozilla pages?06:44
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gregoriagpm: You should set up apt correctly and then it will be easy to get whatever stuff u want06:44
brennerah06:44
naliothosfameron: build instructions are at the sunbird page06:44
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osfameronnalioth: thanks06:44
fsmwhi guys, i can't copy&paste in evolution on breezy, is annoying06:44
gpmgregoria: i am trying to set up apt06:44
naliothfsmw: breezy is in a state of flux atm06:44
fsmwnalioth, i know, is there a bug for this?06:45
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naliothfsmw: idk, you can check bugzilla.ubuntu.com06:45
gregoriagpm: yes I know, i was just suggesting you put what I posted into sources.list rather than what boxerboy said (directing you to mplayer site)06:45
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linnernalioth, i just logged in as test06:45
naliothlinner are you looking at a desktop?06:45
linnernalioth, now i'm waiting for the broken login sound06:45
linnernalioth, no06:45
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linnernalioth, and its hanging again06:46
naliothlinner: we know it's nothing in your ~/06:46
ashzeroWhere can i get a java developpement kit package for amd 64 ?06:46
gpmgregoria: i already have an archive.ubuntu.org line in sources.list06:46
linnernalioth, it's a compaq v2000z... it's the ATI 200M... which I understand can be supported06:46
naliothlinner: restart and get back into rescue mode06:46
linnernalioth, ok06:46
gpmgregoria: i don't think ubuntu packages mplayer officially. i need an external source06:46
brennerlinner: i have an M2217ap06:46
naliothlinner: nah, brenner will fix you up06:46
brennerlinner: i had the exact same problem06:46
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gregoriaok maybe, have you sucessfully downloaded stuff with apt b406:47
linnerbrenner, ok... it's loading now06:47
linnerbrenner, did you have broken sound too?06:47
brennerlinner: somewhat...tell you the truth, i haven't really tested it06:48
linnerbrenner, I noticed at the login screen the sound was very broken06:48
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linnerbrenner, oh okay... do you have integrated wlan?06:48
brennerlinner: oh, it sort of cuts off halfway?06:48
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brennerthen yeah06:48
brenner:)06:48
linnerbrenner, yeah06:48
ashzero Anyone know where i can get a java developpement kit package for amd 64 ?06:48
brennerno, haven't got around to trying to see what's up with that06:48
linnerbrenner, ok I'm at the root too06:48
naliothlinner: one thing at a time06:49
linnernalioth, yes sir ;)06:49
brennerok, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:49
linneron sec06:49
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xarkashzero: You can download Java SDK from Sun (works with Ubuntu for AMD64).06:49
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brennerthat should give spit out an xorg.conf file06:49
linneryes06:49
linnerit iddi06:49
linnerdid06:49
ChrZZIs it a way to reinstall the wirelesspart in ubuntu? Thinking of the IPW2200-part.06:49
linnerautodetect video hardware?06:50
brennerer, yeah. :)06:50
linnerok06:50
fsmwnalioth, is a known bug but appears as solved in evo 2.4.006:50
naliothlinner: most of the settins will be fine to choose the default answer06:50
fsmwi got that version on breezy but the problems still remains06:50
gpmgregoria: yeah06:50
linnerok06:50
xarkashzero: I have been using it with Eclipse (mostly for C/C++, but Java development seems fine too).06:50
naliothfsmw: it may not be a evo problem, tho. breezy is undergoin major bugfixes atm06:50
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linnernalioth what keyboard model do laptops have - pc104?06:51
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naliothlinner: yup06:51
linnernalioth, ok thanks06:51
xarkashzero: Note that if you use Sun's JRE, then you probably want to make sure you uninstall any gcj packages from Ubuntu (they seem to conflict).06:51
leonelhey  what happened with the  guy that was going to wear a Ubuntu t-shirt for 1 month ?06:51
pablo928does breezy have xproblems again? or is it just my computers?06:51
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boxerboy<<<having xproblems with breezy06:51
leonelpablo928, no problems here06:52
Seveaspablo928, the next-to-last udev causes X problems06:52
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linnernalioth, what about mouse port?  i have a touch pad06:52
funkyHateek... todays update is running now...06:52
Seveasso if X doesn't start, update again06:52
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ashzeroxark, i'm looking for a .deb, but i don't think i can find it anywhere06:52
naliothlinner: choose bleh/dev/mice06:52
SeveasfunkyHat, if you dist-upgrade now it's ok06:52
linnernalioth, ok06:52
funkyHatok :)06:52
leonelyea I did  dist-upgrade06:52
boxerboyfor me if x doesnt start after reboot i cant do anything at all not type nor mouse06:52
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Seveasboxerboy, lobin at the console, apt-get update, upt-get upgrade06:53
Seveasthere was a bug in udev up to the very last version06:53
ashzeroxark, what should i do with that ? ./j2eesdk-1_4_02_2005Q2-linux-ml.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory06:53
ChrZZIs it a way to reinstall the wireless part? Thinking of the IPW2200-part. Seems that something was installed when it shouldn't have when I tried to make and upgrade to new ipw2200-drivers from source.06:53
pablo928 Seveas:i did a hard reboot this morning and had to update to gewt x to start. but i didn't see x updates listed06:53
markusboxerboy: doesnt x start after one reboot after install?06:53
boxerboyok ill try it ty06:53
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ashzeroxark, just install libdtdc++ ?06:53
Seveaspablo928, it's udev that was causing it06:53
boxerboynope not at all after reboot06:53
boxerboyspits out like 20 font errors06:54
linnerbrenner, it wants the video modes that x server should use06:54
linnerbrenner, it won't let me "X" anything to selelct06:54
pablo928 Seveas:ok  thanks for the info06:54
Seveasboxerboy, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg may help06:54
boxerboyi did that06:54
brennerlinner: not quite sure what you mean, but just choose default if possible06:54
Seveasashzero, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 - The GNU stdc++ library06:54
Seveasyou need that package06:54
ChrZZFeel like I'm talking do the def ;)06:54
markusare you using preview 5.10? i get that same error after the first reboot. not on my laptop thought :)06:54
blekosb2k06:54
linnerthere isn't a default chosen...06:54
blekoshello again ppl06:55
boxerboyall the fonts are in there as they should be but on reboot it gives II deleting "whatever" fonts06:55
markusblekos: hello, im ppl06:55
blekosi've got a sound problem06:55
NetBugzanyone know where to get drivers for epsonLX300+ printer??06:55
linnerbrenner, there is a # on the far right of the screen but no "X" mark next to the selection06:55
blekos:P06:55
Centaur5Where can you download the newest kernel source for breezy?06:55
fredforfaenwill thhis g.card work with linux , and is it any good? http://www.pcutstyr.no/main.php3?PI=info&PNO=13670606:55
brennerlinner: can you type? i think i kow what it wants06:55
blekosi think there is a site www.drivers.com06:55
blekosor something like that06:55
linnerbrenner, yeah I have been for a little over 15 years :)06:55
SeveasCentaur5, the linux-source-2.6.12 package06:56
boxerboygoogle search brings up a few download spots i dont remember them off hand06:56
ashzeroSeveas, can u help me to find it, i've tried but there is not libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 for amd6406:56
linnerbrenner, but no it won't allow characters either06:56
Seveasashzero, might be a different package there...06:56
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leonelFound it  http://singe.rucus.net/blog/archives/484-Ubuntu-Shirt-Month.html06:56
brennerlinner: no, lol, yeah, i mean is it prompting you to type. :)06:56
linnerbrenner, hehehe... no it isn't06:56
brennerlinner: er, so you can't do anything? :-/06:56
linnerbrenner, yeppers06:56
brennernalioth: any ideas?06:56
fredforfaenanyone?06:57
linnerbrenner, i hit enter and it threw me back to root with this:  expr: non-numeric argument06:57
ChrZZIs it a way to reinstall the wireless part? Thinking of the IPW2200-part. Seems that something was installed when it shouldn't have when I tried to make and upgrade to new ipw2200-drivers from source.06:57
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blekosanybody knows, i can that the cd is being played but cannot hear any sound...06:57
naliothlinner: space bar06:57
LaserLinehello all, anyone knows how to install a lexmark e232 laser printer in ubuntu ?06:57
linnernalioth, i have to retype the command line and get back to there and then once I'm in the video mode, I should just hit space bar?06:58
SeveasChrZZ, apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-`uname -r`06:58
LaserLineit has a debian/linspire driver deb file: http://downloads.lexmark.com/cgi-perl/downloads.cgi?ccs=229:1:0:448:0:0&emeaframe=&fileID=6083&searchLang=en06:58
naliothlinner: the space bar toggles settings on and off (after you've used the arrow keys and tab for navigation)06:58
ChrZZSeveas, what does that do? Reinstalls everything, or just ipw2200?06:58
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linnernalioth, ok... understood06:59
Seveasit reinstalls kernel and modules06:59
linnerbrenner, can you give me the command again?06:59
linnerbrenner, i can't seem to find it easily when I scroll up06:59
brennerdpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:59
linnerthx06:59
LaserLineAnyone could help ?06:59
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shiningubuntu install cd can't resize ntfs partition, right?06:59
brennerLaserLine: er, i wouldn't use the deb file07:00
shroom-hello folks. i'm a beginner at linux and would like some help with installing ubuntu.07:00
Seveasshining, it can07:00
spiralhi07:00
brennerLaserLine: do they provide it in any other format07:00
brenner?07:00
LaserLinebrenner, i know that's why i'm asking here07:00
shiningSeveas: really? nice :)07:00
blekoshi07:00
ChrZZSeveas, and then reinstall?07:00
ChrZZ*reboot07:00
SeveasChrZZ, might help if drivers are messed up07:00
LaserLinebrenner, the printer support pcl-6 emulation, so i suppos any pcl-6 driver would do, right ?07:00
fredforfaeni need some advice on a graphics card...gonna shop for one soon....http://www.pcutstyr.no/main.php3?PI=info&PNO=136706 is this a good one for Ubuntu/linux?07:00
ChrZZSeveas, okey. thx. I'll try07:00
brennerLaserLine: er, not sure about that sorry07:01
brenner!hardware07:01
ubotu[hardware]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport07:01
brennerfredforfaen: maybe check there07:01
fredforfaenah thanx07:01
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shiningfredforfaen: nvidia are fine07:01
LaserLinebrenner,  hound a site about it, a few weeks ago, was sure i bookmarked it, but now i can't find it....07:01
naliothLaserLine: you should have the option to resize in the installer07:01
brennerheh07:01
fredforfaenany nvidia shining ?07:01
shiningfredforfaen: yes07:02
fredforfaencool07:02
linnerbrenner, another error msg07:02
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fredforfaenso brand doesent really matter , just on performace ofcourse but brans name is ; what ever you want?07:02
LaserLinenalioth resize ?07:02
brennerlinner: when?07:02
naliothSeveas: does the breezy installer offer resizing of NTFS?07:03
naliothlinner: tell us please07:03
linnerxserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customized configuration file backup in /etc/x11/xorg.conf .20050921032707:03
Seveasnalioth, afaik yes (never tried it though, i've dist-upgraded from hoary)07:03
LaserLinenalioth what do you mean by "resize" ?07:03
linnernalioth, i was :)07:03
shiningfredforfaen: the 5900 are nice07:03
brennershroom-: what questions do you have?07:03
brennerLaserLine: nalioth has his wires crossed07:03
naliothLaserLine: is your hard drive full of windows right now?07:03
LaserLineAnyone knows a good printer ? any one used the samsung ml-1740...07:03
shiningfredforfaen: hmm wait, are you going to play at all?07:04
shroom-brenner; thanks for talking to me. well. i get an error-message during the installation of latest version of ubuntu.07:04
brennershroom-: nalioth means to be talking to you too. :)07:04
LaserLinenalioth i don't need windwos :-) someone else asked the ntfs question...07:04
linnerbrenner, nalioth it happens at the configuring xserver-xorg default color depth in bits screen07:04
fredforfaenyep im gonna play TCE enemy territory and hopefully doom3 :)07:04
boxerboyim doing apt-get upgrade and if X doesnt start this time i think i know the issue and it has to do with the ati drive 6.8.2-69 but just a guess right now07:04
fredforfaenshining <---07:04
LaserLineFor whom asked about the ntfs resizing, i recommend Acronis Disk Director 907:04
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brennerlinner: what happened? most people have default of 2407:04
naliothLaserLine: sorry07:05
shiningfredforfaen: ho, then take at least the 590007:05
linnerbrenner, that's what I chose07:05
shroom-brenner; i manage to install the base unbuntu but while installing the extra packages everything gets red and i get an error-message. tried several times but doesn't get it to work.07:05
brennerlinner: and it exited?07:05
linneryes07:05
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fredforfaenshining ah ok....will doom3 run smoothly on that ?07:05
naliothshroom-: clicking "enter" doesnt get you past the errors?07:05
shiningfredforfaen: if you don't have cash for a 6800 or even a 7800 :)07:05
brennernalioth: any ideas? :)07:05
boxerboylinner: is your aaaaaax starting after updates?07:05
shroom-brinner; thinking of to try a older version of ubuntu. is that a good choise?07:05
linnerboxerboy, what's that?07:05
boxerboyX07:05
naliothshroom-: hoary should work fine07:05
brennerlinner: does it say anything? or just exits?07:05
boxerboyforget the aaaaaaaa07:05
shiningfredforfaen: it should be fine enough07:05
fredforfaenshining hehe07:06
krageI would like to put chmod to 777 for a folder and evry subfolder and file in it, is it a fast way to do it?07:06
fredforfaencool07:06
shiningfredforfaen: unless you have a slow cpu07:06
fredforfaenim gonna check price on 590007:06
linnerI gave you the error msg above... let me cut and paste... one minute07:06
brennerboxerboy: it freezes at splashscreen07:06
shroom-nalioth; well. yes. i get past the errors.. but during the startup the system just hangs.07:06
linner xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customized configuration file backup in /etc/x11/xorg.conf .20050921032707:06
naliothlinner: try this: go through the dpkg thing again and choose the VESA driver07:06
fredforfaenshining Athlon 2400 (2,01 ghz)07:06
linnernalioth, ok07:06
brennerlinner: aha...sorry...should've done all that using sudo i guess07:06
boxerboysee i dont even get the splash i just get the black screen with the white writting07:06
linnerbrenner, doing sudo?07:07
naliothbrenner: i thought rescue mode was sudo'd07:07
osfameroneeeek!  sunbird build instructions are non-trivial07:07
brenneri thought the root account had write privileges everywhere07:07
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blekoshow can i burn dvd in ubuntu?07:07
shroom-nalioth; so i try an older version then. that could fix it. :)07:07
brennernalioth: me too07:07
boxerboylinner:that warning is just saying you changed something07:07
naliothosfameron: welcome to the world of mozilla07:07
osfameronthey point to Mozilla build instructions, and appear to require much grokkage07:07
brennerbut isn't that what the error is saying?07:07
naliothshroom-: it wouldn't hurt07:07
shiningfredforfaen: well I think it should be fine. just don't expect constant 60 fps at 1600x1200 in higest settings :)07:07
osfameronnalioth: yeah, looks like :-(  I was hoping it would be nicely packaged as it's a "standalone" calendar07:07
brennerlinner: if boxerboy is right..then you're all done07:07
naliothosfameron: not really. it is lots of words, but after your read it , it's purty simple07:07
boxerboyyou get that when you config the xorg file07:07
fredforfaenshining i c07:07
shroom-nalioth; great. i hope it will work.07:07
linneroh so just reboot brenner?07:07
brennerboxerboy: good call. :)07:07
naliothosfameron: i believe it's a little too beta for that07:07
boxerboyi just did it07:07
linnerboxerboy, cool :)07:07
fredforfaenshining thanx a bunch07:07
boxerboyty07:07
brennerlinner: no, hang on07:08
linneroh shoot07:08
naliothlinner: no need07:08
linnerI just did07:08
linnernalioth, crap!07:08
brennerlinner: now....nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:08
hippysi have a ubuntu box sharing internet with two windows machines, can i send i message to one of the widnows boxes07:08
boxerboybut that doesnt mean when you update it will work07:08
naliothlinner: it's ok07:08
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fredforfaenshining how much ram do i need?07:08
osfameronnalioth: oh, fair enough - I'll assign some brainpower to it later on07:08
fredforfaenshining i mean on the g.card?07:08
gregoriaI got it working at last. How can I see the new drives now. fdisk -l still only shows the SCSI07:08
naliothosfameron: have you built nvu?07:08
shroom-and notice everything... i'm a huge beginner at linux. :-)07:08
shroom-everyone*07:08
brennerlinner: we're gonna check if the driver is set to vesa, scroll down to the "device" section07:08
shiningfredforfaen: at least 128 I would think07:08
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linnerbrenner, ok im loading recovery mode again07:09
fredforfaenok shining i have one with 128 here , not any in 25607:09
boxerboylinner: when you had the problem did you have multi universe repos set?07:09
linnerboxerboy, I haven't gotten that far... I can't login without it freezing07:09
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shiningfredforfaen: just fix you a max budget, then take the corresponding nvidia card :d07:09
osfameronnalioth: nvu?  I guess not :-(07:09
brennerboxerboy: it's a driver issue...compaqs suck07:09
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linnerbrenner, hey! I love my compaq07:10
boxerboyim on a dell07:10
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boxerboyand i am getting x issues07:10
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naliothlinner: be nice07:10
shiningfredforfaen: I don't think you want the very high end one though, coz ur cpu wouldnt follow07:10
fredforfaenshining hehe i get ya :)07:10
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hippyscan i have a xwindow session using ssh? i mean like vnc07:10
linnernalioth, I was... they told me mine sucked! :)07:10
fredforfaenah good advice shining07:10
shiningfredforfaen: but they are out of price anyway :)07:10
brennerlinner: you'll find out later. :)07:10
linnerbrenner, it's still a blank screen07:10
naliothmanufacturere opinions can be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic07:10
brennerlinner: where? are you in recovery mode?07:11
naliothlinner: are you at the rescue mode?07:11
linnerbrenner, nalioth yes07:11
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fredforfaenwhat about MSI GeForce 6200 128MB DDR, HDTV AGP8X, NX6200AX-TD128, Tv-Out,DVI,Retail??07:11
osfameronnalioth: wasn't looking for an html editor - is that just as a comparison/intro for a generic build ?07:11
linnerbrenner, I can't scroll down using any key07:11
fredforfaenshining <---07:11
linnerbrenner, and there is nothing in the file ... same as it was before07:11
naliothosfameron: the build instructions are almost the same07:12
brenneroh07:12
brennerlinner: cd /etc/X1107:12
shiningfredforfaen: hmm not sure.07:12
osfameronnalioth: thanks07:12
fredforfaenits not as expensive as 5900 shining07:12
shiningfredforfaen: I would need to check a benchmark, so you could do that as well07:12
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shiningfredforfaen: ha I see07:12
naliothlinner: i think its the VESA driver you need07:12
linnerbrenner, no such file or directory07:12
shiningfredforfaen: then take the 5900 :d07:12
linnernalioth, i think that's what brenner is trying to get loaded for me07:12
linnerbrenner, correct me if I'm wrong...07:12
fredforfaenhehe shining07:12
brennerlinner: er, did you do an expert install or something?07:13
fredforfaengood advice you are giving me shining , thanx alot07:13
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brennerwhy is your X11 dir missing? :-/07:13
linnerbrenner, nope... not ot my knowledge07:13
shiningfredforfaen: np07:13
linnerbrenner, it says this:07:13
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linnerbash: cd: /etc/x11: no such file or directory07:13
sPYder---how to install a static filename.deb ?????07:13
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KingArthurok, I've finally gotten my comp back up.  MASSIVE filesystem corruption (I have no idea why), but I had to ok hundreds of inode blah blah.  Now, my battery indicator isn't reading my batt.  Any idears?07:13
naliothbrenner: linner is missing serious software07:13
boxerboyim wondering if it is a driver issue can u just not upgrade the driver and leave old one?07:14
linnernalioth, crap...07:14
brennernalioth: how did she manage that though?07:14
brennerif she did the default install07:14
brennerlinner: this is hoary is it not?07:14
naliothlinner: type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"07:14
linnerbrenner... all i did was download 5.04 and burn the ISO to CD... pop it in and go through the motions07:14
linnernalioth, ok07:14
linnerbrenner, i think so07:14
brenneryes, 5.04 is hoary.07:14
naliothbrenner: might've been a wonky cd07:14
sPYder---anyone plz answer me... T_T how to install a static filename.deb ???07:15
fredforfaenshining this is wierd 5900 is one of the most expensive of the g.cards overe here in norway.....07:15
brennerlinner: the ISO from the official site?07:15
shiningfredforfaen: how much?07:15
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linnernalioth, ok so it's saying this:  0 upgarded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, and 0 not upgraded07:15
fredforfaenlike 450-500 quid07:15
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linnerbrenner, yes07:15
naliothsPYder---: uncle google will always answer you, if we do not07:15
shiningfredforfaen: sry I only know euro :d07:15
brennersPYder---: do you mean local? dpkg -i , but you should check the repos first07:16
naliothsPYder---: he who helps himself, and all that07:16
fredforfaenah ok..let me se shining07:16
[FiDo] where can I find a list of repositories now that ubuntuguide.org is down07:16
brenner!repos07:16
uboturepos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/96907:16
nalioth[FiDo] : /msg ubotu sources07:16
[FiDo] thanks07:16
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fredforfaenshining 402 euro07:17
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shiningfredforfaen: omfg07:17
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fredforfaenand thats with 128 ram shining07:18
shiningfredforfaen: I bought the 5900 xt 200 euros one year ago07:18
fredforfaenwhat???07:18
fredforfaendamn07:18
shiningfredforfaen: 128 mb too07:18
linnerbrenner, am I completely screwed or what?07:18
fredforfaendamn thats harsh07:18
naliothlinner: have you followed my last instructions?07:18
linneryes07:19
shiningfredforfaen: take an other shop :)07:19
linnernalioth, didn't you see my reply?07:19
fredforfaensyeah i have to look around07:19
fredforfaenshining07:19
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linnernalioth, ok so it's saying this:  0 upgarded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove, and 0 not upgraded07:19
osfameronnalioth: oh... apparently I downloaded a build. That's handy :-)07:19
fredforfaenwell thanx anyway , but 5500 will do the job for enemy territory wont it?07:19
naliothlinner: sorry too many folks in here. do this; "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"07:19
linnernalioth, no I understand trust me... I just wanted you to know I was still here :)07:20
shiningfredforfaen: et is very cpu dependent07:20
linnernalioth, says it is the newest version07:20
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shiningfredforfaen: so you could take the 5500 , and then if its too slow, upgrade cpu :)07:21
naliothlinner: did you choose the VESA driver?07:21
linnernalioth, i didn't see anything for a vesa driver...07:21
linneri'll do it again just in case I missed something07:21
naliothlinner: ok. run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and when you get to the "driver" part, choose VESA07:21
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twibblercan somebody help please I am trying to recompile the alsa driver... on the make I get modules disabled ... how do I enable them ?..07:22
linnernalioth, let me give it another whirl07:22
fredforfaenshining hehe yeah...it runs smoothe with a 5200 in a 1150 amd proc..so it should run good on my athlon 2400 with 5500 and 256ram07:22
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rigelcan anyone help me figure out why my cron job alarm clock isnt working?07:24
rigeli have it set up to run a shell script that invokes mp3blaster07:24
rigeland it doesnt work07:24
brennerlinner: i'm off to bed...good luck!07:24
naliothrigel: is mp3blaster a console proggy?07:24
blekosmy sound does not work07:24
naliothbrenner: what?!?07:24
blekosany ideas07:24
blekos?07:24
rigelnalioth: ncurses based, yes07:24
naliothblekos: we need more info than that07:25
linnerbrenner, thank you!!!!07:25
brennernalioth: she's all yours. ;)07:25
blekoshaha07:25
blekosyes u do07:25
blekosi can see the sound icon,07:25
naliothrigel: and you've passed whatever command line inputs to it in the script?07:25
brennerlinner: i didn't really fix it. :)   but you're in safe hands07:25
blekosthe cd players seems to play the cd...07:25
linnerbrenner, no, but you did try your best and I so appreciate it :)07:25
blekostried to change the output device pc-speakers ,headphone etc...07:25
blekosno luck07:25
brennerno sweat...07:26
The_Ultimate_Frowas the win32codecs removed from the apt-get list? is it recomended that i just manually install it from the mplayer website ?07:26
blekosno sound comes out of the d@mn laptop :"07:26
shiningfredforfaen: ho yes, then fine :)07:26
blekos:|07:26
linnernalioth, to select the vesa driver all I need to do is scroll down to highlight and press enter right?07:26
linnernalioth, I tried the space bar and nothing07:26
naliothlinner: no, the space bar will select, deselect07:27
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shiningfredforfaen: it doesnt run smooth enough for me with a p4 3.2ghz and 5900xt, but I'm a bit exigent :d07:27
rigelnalioth: yeah, the script runs fine by itself07:27
linnernalioth, so just scroll down and hit enter?  because when I try to use the space bar to select nothing happens07:27
naliothrigel: then it would seem to be an cron issue07:27
blekosany ideas?07:27
zburnsI'm running Liferea (RSS Reader) and I've configured it to download enclosures but it doesn't.  Anybody else experience this?07:27
naliothlinner: that sounds bad when the spacebar doesnt toggle07:28
linnernalioth, oh crap07:28
fredforfaenshining i c ...hehe :P07:28
linneri'm not given anywhere for it TO toggle07:28
naliothblekos: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation07:28
blekosok07:28
naliothlinner: on the far left you should see a row of [ ]   for an 'x' to go into07:28
linnernalioth, there are no parentheses like last time... jsut a bunch of video card makers etc.07:28
linnernalioth, no there isn't07:28
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elad`Recommend a good md5checksum checker.07:30
naliothelad`: you have one on your box now07:30
mad_pheonixI'm having a problem with breezy installing gcc-4.0...it tells me that i have unmet dependencies of 4.0.1-4ubuntu807:30
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elad`I'm on WinXP right now. I want to check the Ubuntu CD I've just downloaded.07:30
mad_pheonixbecause i apparently only have 4.0.1-4ubuntu607:30
naliothelad`: visit www.freewarehome.com and search for one07:31
blekoswhich program do u use for burning dvds?07:31
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naliothblekos: k3b07:31
blekosit is not pre-installed right?07:31
mad_pheonixhas anybody been able to get gcc-4.0 installed on breezy?07:32
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fredforfaenshining do i have to do any reinstalling of nvidia driver or anything when i put it in...i have a mx440 nvidia card currently07:32
LincTeKim running breezy now07:32
shiningfredforfaen: I don't think so07:32
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athagcc-4.0 - 4.0.1-4ubuntu8 The GNU C compiler installed here on breezy07:32
fredforfaenit should with my current setup07:32
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shiningfredforfaen: yes it should work. nvidia drivers are the same for all cards (supported)07:33
LincTeK4:4.0.1-3 installed here07:33
fredforfaenyeah i thought so....well i cant wait to get my new card :P07:33
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mad_pheonixatha: did you just use apt-get for installing gcc?07:35
ppdhello. is it possible to replace agpgart with nvidia_agp to get suspend to ram working with the nvidia driver07:35
ppd?07:35
shiningppd: its possible to replace it, it doesnt mean it'll make suspend working07:35
fredforfaen!nvidia07:35
ubotumethinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia07:35
fredforfaen!harware07:35
ubotufredforfaen: Did you get hit by a windmill?07:35
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fredforfaen!hardware07:35
ubotuhardware is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport07:35
athamad_pheonix: yes, i did the apt-get dist-upgrade after setting the sources to point at breezy and I think that was all07:36
boxerboyhere we go with the frigging errors07:36
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ppdshining: but I read with it instead suspend should work07:36
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mad_pheonixatha: okay, i think i accidently updated my apt sources.list for hoary sources07:36
freiteanyone know the best solution to fix radeon backlight on acpi suspend?07:36
boxerboywhat is an OIL: error?07:36
mad_pheonixcan i simply change "hoary" to "breezy" in my apt sources/07:36
mad_pheonix?07:36
LincTeKyes07:36
mad_pheonixgreat, thanks07:36
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nalioth!tell mad_pheonix about upgrade2breezy07:37
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stazichhi, can anyone guide me how to add universe/multiverse in synaptic?07:37
boxerboyif im not mistaken for the lines that are there you should just beable to change hoary to breezy and leave backports set to hoary07:37
OculusAquilaehi07:37
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Mustafa^^Hi!07:38
OculusAquilaewhat's up with /dev/input/mice in breezy? After the last dist-upgrade X does not find it07:38
mad_pheonixnalioth: thanks, that makes a lot of sense07:38
Centaur5I'm trying to compile a program but when running ./configure it says that gcc isn't installed although it is, how do I fix that?07:39
shiningOculusAquilae: is the device there? if its, cat it, and move your mouse07:39
krageI have deleted my old NTFS filesystems on /dev/hdb and made an new primary partiton on it (/dev/hdb2) but how do i make a filesystem on it and mount it automaticly when the computer starts?07:39
SeveasOculusAquilae, the very last finds it again07:39
boxerboystazich: if you go to the update manager and click onthe i think its properties button than click settings and check the empty boxes will give you universe but multi universe i think has to be done a different way07:39
naliothboxerboy: breezy has no backports07:39
OculusAquilaeSeveas: does it07:39
Seveasyes07:39
Seveasit has been fixed at 15:00 UTC today07:40
OculusAquilaeshining: no, no such device07:40
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OculusAquilaein /dev07:40
emileCentaur5: install gcc (sudo apt-get install gcc)07:40
shiningOculusAquilae: so the pb isnt x07:40
blekosnalioth: i cannot even hear system's default sounds...07:40
naliothboxerboy: do not recommend backports for breezy until breezy has some07:40
blekosit is not for mp3 etc07:40
boxerboyi said dont change them07:40
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sorush20what is a very good weather monitoring program07:40
blekosi like Ubuntu, but it has a long way to go cmo07:40
blekoscomparing to f07:40
blekosa07:40
blekosfew distros  around07:41
shiningfedora?07:41
Seveassorush20, your eyes ;07:41
Seveas;)07:41
boxerboyi said leave them as hoary07:41
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stazichhi, can anyone guide me how to add universe/multiverse in synaptic?07:41
shiningblekos: ?07:41
Seveas!tell stazich about sources07:42
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gerarconehow can i change the background (brown) color under the splash screen at startup?07:42
gerarconei'm running breezy07:42
athlonhow to make firefox open xchat if I click on an irc:// link07:42
krageI have deleted my old NTFS filesystems on /dev/hdb and made an new primary partiton on it (/dev/hdb2) but how do i make a filesystem on it and mount it automaticly when the computer starts?07:42
blekosi think, as feel as concerned and some preconfigured aspects07:42
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emilesorush20: there is one in your toolbar (click right, add to panel, weather forecast)07:43
naliothathlon: edit your mimetypes (ask uncle google how)07:43
OculusAquilaeSeveas: hm, no new updates07:43
blekosi don't know if it's my idea or because everything is run for first time but a bit of slow isn't it?07:43
blekosex openoffice07:43
sorush20emile: I'm using kde07:43
emilesorush20: sorry can't help you on that one07:43
boxerboy/etc/gdm/XKeepsCrashing ...07:43
boxerboy   what the hell kind of file is that?07:43
sorush20any one here in here in Houston.. TX..07:44
sorush20are you guys evacuating.07:44
naliothsorush20: yes, why?07:44
boxerboyit said it installed that file07:44
athlonnalioth,  thanks07:44
Seveasboxerboy, that is the script that is called when X keeps crashing07:44
sorush20nalioth: are you evacuating, because of the Hurricane Rita.07:44
goo_boxerboy: it's the shell script that is run if something is wrong with your xorg config.07:44
gerarconeit is possible that the background of the splash-screen is not changeable?07:44
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boxerboyok thank you im gonna try to reboot it and see if same problem is there07:45
naliothsorush20: simple answer. no i am not. for further answers >>#ubuntu-offtopic07:45
LincTeK!upgrade2breezy07:45
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade07:45
OculusAquilaestill no /dev/input/mice07:46
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athaupgrade (or downgrade) udev to ...ubuntu14 or ...ubuntu1207:46
Flying-Penguinanyone here have a 9 button mouse?07:46
goo_OculusAquilae: tried modprobe usbmouse  and /etc/init.d/udev restart ?07:47
goo_atha: I have udev ubuntu13 and I have /dev/input/mice07:47
atha"cd /dev && MAKEDEV input" worked for me as a temporary solution with the broken version07:47
OculusAquilaegoo_: thanks07:47
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rrichiehi all07:49
rrichieplease will there be the rest of kde 3.5b1 packages for ubuntu ?07:49
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goo_oh, here is udev ubuntu14 as well.07:49
pythonscriptany experts on session manager can help me please07:49
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naliothpythonscript: ask your question07:50
goo_...or it could be if the mirroring people could only update more than the package list..07:50
pythonscriptthank you nalioth, I'm a new ubuntu user, I want to run my python script everytime I'm login07:51
pythonscriptI've succeed on create the python script running well on terminal07:51
naliothpythonscript: System > Preferences > Sessions07:51
pythonscriptalready trying using etc/profile BASH but not working07:51
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pythonscriptalready try add on session manager but not getting executed07:52
gerarconenobody can help me?07:52
pythonscriptgot TRASH icon07:52
Behihi all07:52
Behidoes anybody know a fresh anonymous proxy server?07:52
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pythonscriptmy script state is TRASH icon on Session Manager after login07:52
gerarconei now it is a stupid thing but is very ugly to see a black splash screen on a brown background!07:52
goo_Behi: what relevance does that have to Ubuntu ?07:52
naliothpythonscript: it wont go in your .bash* cuz then it's load every shell you opened07:52
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scenestaroi07:52
scenestarwhere the hell is the winteools package?07:52
naliothpythonscript: i'm not sure where you'd put it07:52
Behigoo_: it's an offtopic question07:53
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puffnalioth: Thanks.07:53
pythonscriptnalioth in session manager there is TAB for adding program (if I didn't wrong it is the third tab)07:53
pythonscriptI'm add my script there07:53
pythonscriptadd /home/user/client.py07:54
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blekoshow can I download and install k3b?07:54
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nalioth!tell blekos about synaptic07:54
blekosi c07:55
KING^^^hello all , what happened to www.ubuntuguide.org ?07:55
pythonscriptnalioth I'm also already use chmod a+x /home/user/client.py07:55
mad_pheonixwhat is the best way to make j2re the default java target instead of gij?  do most people use the alternatives command?07:55
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cycomis it me, or is everything updating kinda slow...07:55
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naliothmad_pheonix: yes, the alternatives command will work07:55
Scognitohi07:56
KING^^^hello all , what happened to www.ubuntuguide.org ?07:56
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mad_pheonixnalioth: so i can just do alternatives --config java, or will i have to do an alternatives install j2re first?07:56
naliothmad_pheonix: you need more than one program to have an alternative07:56
adjacentyeh, ubuntuguide.org is down07:56
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pythonscripthalo nalioth do you have any clue to my problem please ?07:57
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mad_pheonixalright, thanks07:57
naliothpythonscript: sorry, i do not07:57
nalioth!ubuntuguide07:57
ubotu[ubuntuguide]  out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.07:57
adjacentthat should be in the topic, btw. ubuntuguide.org is down, use https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ intsead07:57
blekosi can c nalioth is the guru around here ;)07:57
blekosglad 2 have u nal07:57
pythonscriptany experts know much about Session Manager please ?07:57
naliothblekos: you need glasses, then, lol07:58
blekos:))07:58
naliothpythonscript: you do not need session mangler07:58
blekosin fact I do wear glasses!!!07:58
naliothpythonscript: you need to ask how to start a program when the machine starts07:58
blekospytho ask nalioth lol07:58
pythonscriptthat is it :)07:58
pythonscriptany experts do you know how to Start my Python script everytime I'm login ?07:59
adjacentpythonscript: login to gnome, or to the terminal07:59
pythonscriptwhen I start ubuntu there is full screen ubuntu with white box asking for my name and password what was login is that ?08:00
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pythonscriptI think its gnome >08:00
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pythonscript?08:00
rikvaHi all, may I ask why Eclipse isn't in the Hoary repositories?08:00
naliothadjacent: pythonscript wants to start his py script when the machine boots08:01
oO[NOVA] Oorikva: ofcourse you may.08:01
rikvaoO[NOVA] Oo: thanks08:01
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cycomhey, am I crazy, or would it be bad to replace libgl-xorg with libgl-mesa, which can't do dri?08:01
rikvaThen, why isn't Eclipse in the Hoary repositories?08:02
pythonscriptrikva maybe you should activated the repositories08:02
adjacentpythonscript: if you want it to start when the machine boots, put the script in /etc/init.d/ and use update-rc.conf to add the links in the the appropriate runlevels08:02
rikvapythonscript: I have :)08:02
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OculusAquilaegoo_: problem is i must do "/etc/init.d/udev restart" after every reboot08:03
pythonscriptactually I want to start the script everytime login no only when boot, because I want the network functional first08:03
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pythonscriptrikva you already decomment the list file ?08:03
adjacentpythonscript: you might want to read up on runlevels before you go any further, you are trying to do accomplish something the wrong way08:03
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rikvapythonscript: yepp08:03
pythonscriptwow the wrong way ? where to read runlevels anyway ?08:04
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pythonscriptrikva sorry I don't know more :( but I do get firestarter only after decomenting08:05
cheesie!java08:05
ubotuTo install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java or, for Sun's Java, ask me about !sunjava08:05
markus!sun08:06
ubotumarkus: What?08:06
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rikvaI already have Java, I was just wondering why Eclipse isn't in the repositories :) I'll just download and try to compile it now08:06
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ggellerhttp://tinyurl.com/7s85608:06
ggellerCan somebody explain why Ubuntu would freeze up on one out of four of my machines when Debian works just fine, thank you?08:06
adjacentpythonscript: would ou install shit under the hood of your car without reading up on how a car starts? no. now RTFM08:06
AngryParsleywtf is that sound that is made sometimes? it's like a siren sound or something08:06
AngryParsleyI thought I disabled sounds08:06
pythonscriptofcourse not :) haha ok that is whats wrong08:07
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pythonscriptso adjacent where is things to read ? I'm absolutely newbie don't know much08:08
adjacentpythonscript: http://www.tldp.org/08:08
naliothpythonscript: you can come back in here in an hour or two and ask again08:09
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Cesarinanyone can help me to fix the Mouse bug that started to happen since last night's of breezy updates?08:11
Cesarinlog says "no corepointer, fatal error, failed to initialize core devices"08:11
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pythonscriptadjacent : wow thank you I'm start eating the pizza you gave me :)08:12
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rikvaDoes anyone know why ubuntuguide.org is down? Is it going to come back soon?08:13
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adjacentpythonscript: have fun! you might feel silly once you figure out how things are put together08:13
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naliothrikva: use wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead08:13
emilerikva: use the wiki08:13
pythonscriptI do feel that now :)08:13
rikvaI'm using the wiki now, just wondering...08:13
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ompaulggeller, that looks like some hardware issue ssh in while its alive and see how it goes, you say you want to use it as a server then I would install the server version of ubuntu - unless you need the screen and just see if it falls over, why not add a list of the hardware that is involved to the post - right down to mobo what pci is where - and theres a thing in the past some crazy things like the order of the PCI cards has caused me pain08:14
adjacentrikva: ubuntuguide is on googles cache if you need it08:14
ompaul!guide08:14
ubotuparse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, ompaul08:14
ompaul!ubuntuguide08:14
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ubotu[ubuntuguide]  out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.08:14
DukGalNamuspam bots?08:14
jbroomenice08:14
Cesarin http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2403 <-- my conf and logs08:14
DukGalNamuwhat program should i use to monitor my cups server and to manipulate current qued jobs?08:15
Cesarinompaul: maybe bios issues? o_O who knows..08:15
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DaSkreechwhat repos is libxine1c2 in?08:16
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DukGalNamuwhat program is there to monitor my cups server??08:17
pc22any here can play with ragnarok under ubuntu?08:17
adjacentDukGalNamu: mrtg?08:18
DukGalNamuadjacent: isn't there one installed already?08:18
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DukGalNamuwith base installation08:18
DVSoftwarehello people08:18
DukGalNamuhello person08:19
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twoSharphow are the possibilities of using hoary-extras on breezy?08:19
DVSoftwarei've bought guild wars today, and i've just noticed that my cedega won't work on breezy08:19
DaSkreechOr how do you remove a package and the packages that depend on it?08:19
DVSoftware:S08:19
blekosis there a full version o ubuntu? meaning to have all packages...08:19
DaSkreechblekos: Do you mean one with all the Linux software?08:19
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blekoslol not offcourse08:19
DVSoftwareCould not load graphics driver 'x11drv'08:20
DaSkreechblekos: Download the 21 CDs of Debian then apt-get install ubuntu desktop :)08:20
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DVSoftwarethis is the error08:20
blekosbut for example I'm downloading k3b now08:20
blekosunfortunately in greece not everybody has a lone or DSL08:20
blekosi am a like one08:20
ggellerompaul: Is there a program I can run that will report that sort of hardware things?08:20
CesarinAnyone here having troubles with the mouse after updating breezy yesterday night?08:20
blekoshahhahaha08:20
blekoslol08:20
blekoscool DaS I'll do so :p08:20
DaSkreechThat should pretty much set you straight ;)08:21
bam_hey stupid question, i downloaded a program in b2 format, whats the install for it via command line?08:21
DaSkreechblekos: Course by the time you actually download them then they would all need updating ;)08:21
synica) it's probably bz2, and b) you should use apt insead.08:21
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bam_yea, but gdesklets from the repos is a little "buggy"08:22
blekoslol :))08:22
synicwhat makes you think the tarball will be any different?08:22
naliothbam_: you mean bz2?08:22
DVSoftwareanyone knows how to fix cedega?08:22
Cesarinwhy I feel ignored? :P08:22
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bam_pfft, newer version?08:23
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bam_:)08:23
funkyHat:/ the new version of opera depends on 'libqt3c102-mt'08:23
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apokryphosfunkyHat: yes, it's stupid and annoying08:23
rikvaEhm, Java has been taken out of Hoary for legal reasons, but it is in Breezy??08:23
synicrikva: no.08:23
apokryphosfunkyHat: since that pack is obsolete in breezy08:23
synicbam_: http://linuxhelp.homeunix.com/tar08:23
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bam_:)"08:23
funkyHatso i'll force it08:23
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mad_pheonixhas anybody managed to get w32codecs running with breezy?08:24
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naliothmad_pheonix: do you need w32codecs?08:24
apokryphosfunkyHat: you can force depends, but it'll probably break apt and it'll cry. I might just alter the depends and remake the .deb; I figure that would in theory work.08:24
mad_pheonixnalioth: well i'd like to play wmv's08:24
rikvasynic: I think this page says it, or am I really really wrong? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java?highlight=%28java%2908:24
funkyHatmeh08:25
funkyHatthat's shitty08:25
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naliothfunkyHat: language please08:25
funkyHatO:-) sorry08:25
Ainvaryeah I think that is pretty bad about java myself08:25
synicrikva: wow, it is in there.08:25
naliothmad_pheonix: get w32codecs here http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/08:25
synicblackdown.08:25
rikvasynic: I need the real sun thingy for school08:26
Ainvarrikva make your own java deb08:26
Ainvarreally easy to do08:26
rikvayepp. downloading now08:26
naliothrikva: breezy or hoary?08:26
Ainvarso easy I could even do it :)08:26
rikvanalioth: hoary08:26
naliothrikva: ok. i have links for java breezy pkgs08:27
Ainvarfinally got my work box up today with breezy on it08:27
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rikvaI'm waiting for breezy to be out of beta08:27
AinvarI forgot how bad intel video cards suck the big one08:27
apokryphosnalioth: we have both, remember :)08:27
apokryphosubotu: tell rikva about sunjava08:28
naliothapokryphos: /me just woke up08:28
naliothapokryphos: and rikva is getting it already08:28
rikvaapokryphos: wow thanks08:28
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cr4sh_hey guyz08:28
funkyHatapokryphos, what about just removing the line from the control file?08:29
cr4sh_can anyone tell me how to set up or run 3dwm-clock08:29
funkyHator would i need to edit the md5sums as well?08:29
cr4sh_or any other clock software i dont like the gnomes default clock look!08:29
funkyHatif the package is obsolete, then i'd assume that opera would work without it08:29
apokryphosfunkyHat: it's replaced by another -- libqt3-mt08:29
Cesarincafuego_:by any chance you there?08:29
pc22my resolution is 640x480. how can i make 10**x7**. theres no option08:30
funkyHatapokryphos, so tell it depend on one or the other08:30
funkyHat?08:30
nalioth!tell pc22 about resolution08:30
jazzykaypc22. modify your /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:30
apokryphosfunkyHat: yes, tell it to depend on the breezy one, I don't have time to do it right now though.08:30
pc22ok??08:30
funkyHatok. thanks, i'm working on it08:30
pc22jazzykay, how is that?08:31
cr4sh_anyone please??08:31
funkyHati just wanted to know if any other files would need changing, like the checksums08:31
pythonscriptadjacent : well maybe this is hardstuff for me, but I will try anyway :) still what is the purpose of session manager ?08:31
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apokryphosfunkyHat: not entirely sure, tbh.08:31
jazzykaypc22:  from the command line.. nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:32
funkyHatok, well i'll try it anyway :)08:32
pythonscriptbecause it is looks alot easier just to add link of my script there08:32
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pc22ok thanks08:32
Cesarinhttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2403 <-- anyone can help me with this, since breezy update last night, X11 stoped working08:32
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jazzykaypc22: look for a section called Screen and SubSection Display08:33
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jazzykaypc22: change your modes to something like this Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"08:33
pc22thanks its ok now08:33
jazzykaycool08:34
pc22jazzykay, can i pm you?08:34
naliothpc22: you should read what ubotu send you08:34
jazzykaysure08:34
jcohen85does anyone else notice that Breezy takes 10-15 seconds longer than hoary to start up? Before going to the splash screen there's a 15 second delay v. perhaps 5 seconds in hoary before it continued in the boot process08:34
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pc22nalioth, thanks08:34
Cesarinjcohen: I get preety long delays on "setting network" thing on bootup08:35
jeanschCesarin, Cannot open device /dev/input/mice08:35
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Cesarinjeansch: yeah that error08:35
Cesarinyesterday a guy from france told me various people were suffering that since the patch for breezy08:35
charlesbcI updated packages in Ubuntu Linux Preview 5.10, and now my nvidia driver doesn't seem to work on my video card anymore. Can anyone help?08:35
Cesarinit was finewhen I installed it by  CD08:35
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Cesarinjeansch: so, any tips to fix that problem?08:36
GobblaGRUB loadin stage1.5. GRUB loading, please wait... Error 1808:36
Gobblawhats wrong?08:36
funkyHatthat worked apokryphos08:36
jcohen85Cesarin, i don't see that problem. My issue is that it takes 15 seconds to go from loading the kernel to the rest of the boot process which is signifigantly longer than it took in hoary08:36
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funkyHati'll upload the patched .deb somewhere if that would be helpful :)08:37
apokryphosfunkyHat: nice! Do you want to upload the fix and put it in ubotu's factoid08:37
apokryphosfunkyHat: yeah, that'll be cool.08:37
Cesarinjcohen85: cant tell you to be honest, I'm a total noob, installed linux yesterday08:37
funkyHatyeah, i'll inform ubotu as well08:37
Cesarinbeen following instructions to make my monitor and my video card work well08:37
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Cesarinbut after the patches, everything went kaboom08:37
charlesbcsame here08:38
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indypendesomeone had configured a creative webcam on breezy?08:38
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LaschWAre there any clamav 0.87 deb's for Ubuntu?08:40
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naliothLaschW: you'll need to build clamav .87 for hoary08:41
indypendeLaschW, why don't you get it from synaptic08:41
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GobblaTry an update for your BIOS and/or move your boot partition to the front (or at least into the appropriate range).08:41
epwill (is) the new free Opera web browser apt-gettable?08:41
naliothapokryphos: TOZuiu thanks you08:41
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Gobblahow do i move the boot partition?08:41
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indypendeLaschW, or apt-cache search clamav08:41
LaschWclamav 0.87 is not in brezy repository08:41
naliothindypende: .87 doesnt exist for hoary08:41
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charlesbcwhere can I find an older version of the nvidia-glx? A version from at least two days ago, for example :P08:41
naliothLaschW: you'll need to build it, then08:42
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indypendenalioth, sorry!08:42
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southsideYOO08:43
elad`So, I now have Ubuntu installed on my other HDD, and it's working fine. But how do I set up a pptp connection?08:43
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blekosi have donwload & installed a few files is there any way i can save them?08:43
rikvaapokryphos: the deb for hoary java works perfect, thanks! :)08:43
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blekosthey are already installed08:44
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mlopeshi. how can I make 'route add default gw xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx' permanent for eth0 ?08:44
apokryphosrikva: cool :)08:44
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jeanschmlopes, the gateway line on /etc/network/interfaces08:44
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mlopesgateway ip08:45
mlopes?08:45
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jeanschmlopes, yep08:45
mlopesthks :-)08:45
klemenshi08:45
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mlopeslet's see if it worked ok08:46
mlopesshutdown -r now :P08:46
jeanschno08:46
apokryphosdamn these bots 8)08:46
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djfmhi!08:46
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djfmis there something like hotmail popper for linux, which permits to check one's hotmail e-mail within evolution mail or so ?08:47
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DVSoftwareplease help me08:47
DVSoftwarei'have bought a game, and i can't run it now08:48
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jeanschdjfm, apt-cache search hotmail08:49
thenukeDVSoftware: oh how precise and smart question that was..08:49
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DVSoftwarei have told my question few minutes ago08:49
DVSoftwarei have bought guild wars08:49
DVSoftwareand noticed that cedega won't run anymore08:49
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DVSoftwarei'm on 64bit breezy08:50
naliothdjfm: hotpop?08:50
djfmthx jeansch08:50
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DVSoftwareCould not load graphics driver 'x11drv'08:50
djfmthx nalioth too08:50
El_CheDVSoftware: boot from your windows partition and install the game08:50
DVSoftwareEl_Che: that's not an option08:50
jazzykaydo you have the latest video drivers?08:51
DVSoftwarei don't have windows, and i don't plan installing it08:51
DVSoftwarejazzykay: i always install newest stuff08:51
jeanschDVSoftware, you run it with wine ?08:51
DVSoftwarei think that drivers were upgraded automaticaly08:51
pythonscriptany expert know what is session manager is all about ?08:51
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DVSoftwarejeansch: cedega08:51
jeanschDVSoftware, ah, i don't know that08:52
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DVSoftwaredri is ok08:53
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DVSoftwarebut i don't know if 32bit support is ok08:53
naliothpythonscript: you do not need session mangler08:53
DVSoftwarehow can i downgrade nvidia drivers?08:53
indypendesomeone have configured a creative webcan on breezy?08:53
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DVSoftwarei have it in apt cache08:53
jeanschDVSoftware, you should have too the old packages on /var/cache/apt/archives08:54
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DaSkreechHow can i find out which repository a package is in?08:55
pythonscriptnalioth oh :) I'm just asking what is session manager all about for :)08:55
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jeanschDaSkreech, packages.ubuntu.com08:55
jeanschDaSkreech, apt-cache policy _package_08:55
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epI understand Opera is no longer adware.  What's the license, is it free?   Is is apt-gettable?08:58
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Cesarinok, Here I am.. anyone reads me?08:58
jeanschCesarin, yes08:59
^DodGeR^ello Cesarin08:59
Cesarinwtf, my screen suddenly tusn invisiblthis text mode is weird08:59
apokryphosep: no license, but not open-source08:59
Cesarina lot parts are invisible08:59
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Cesarinsecond console was?08:59
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Cesarinyou're talking to me?08:59
ApotheoticSheepHey, I need some help08:59
ApotheoticSheepHad to go last night08:59
indypendesomeone have configured a creative webcan on breezy?09:00
Cesarinok09:00
ApotheoticSheepI am unable to login to my other user account in ubuntu09:00
Cesarinim doing that09:00
Cesarinlet me do the command of dev/inut09:00
ApotheoticSheepIt gives me an unable to create directory error09:00
catfoxhi all. I was here last night but didn't get my problem resolved. i'm trying to access my system over ssh but can't09:00
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ApotheoticSheepAnd I cant use the root terminal because it always asks for a password09:00
ApotheoticSheep:-=09:00
Cesarin btw, the command ls -al /dev/input gives me a "no directory" error09:00
catfoxi can ssh to 127.0.0.1, but not the external IP. i've set port forwarding on port 2209:00
DaSkreechjeansch: If I don't have the repository that _package_ is in would it know where to look?09:01
^DodGeR^enter your password ApotheoticSheep ?09:01
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KArhutonI just installed breezy and X won't start because it can't find font 'fixed'09:01
Cesarin"directory does not exist"09:01
hypn0if i ordered a hoary cds, will i automatically be sent breezy cds when its relaesed09:01
KArhutonInstalled = upgraded from Hoary09:01
jeanschDaSkreech, packages.ubuntu.com09:01
ApotheoticSheep^DodGeR^,  I entered this account password, and my other one09:01
ApotheoticSheepsays the password is wrong09:01
jeanschCesarin, that's odd09:01
^DodGeR^ugg09:01
DaSkreechI just did and it said libs09:01
Cesarinjean: tell me it09:01
Cesarinbtw, this x-chattext is broken, a lot of text is missing09:01
CesarinI supose Id have to use the dirty trick of winbloze09:02
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CesarinIe, reinstalling everything from scratch09:02
naliothKArhuton: open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get -f install"09:02
Cesarinkarhuton: is that for me?09:02
ApotheoticSheepI can get root access from the terminal though09:02
boxerboy29im thinking i registered this time?09:02
ApotheoticSheepregular terminal09:02
jeanschCesarin, nop, but you can try dpkg --configure -a09:03
Cesarinwell anyone has any idea if why a lot of text is missing in x-chat?09:03
Cesarinlet me write that09:03
KArhutonnalioth: didn't do anything09:03
Cesarinthen its dpkg --configure -a ?09:03
CesarinIm just confirming because x-chat is losing a lot of text09:03
Cesarinlike half text is black, some grey, other white, and other light grey09:03
Cesarinsometimes my own text doesnt appear09:04
scenestarugh09:04
scenestarhey609:04
jeanschyes, that's that09:04
Cesarinok brb09:04
scenestarhow can i configure synaptic to open the "advanced" part by default?09:04
naliothKArhuton: breezy is currently in heavy bug smashing mode09:04
Cesarinok, done that, now what?09:04
naliothKArhuton: how often to you update your machine?09:05
jeanschCesarin, and what appened ?09:05
Cesarinkar: I supose Id have to "update" my bugs?09:05
naliothboxerboy29: welcome09:05
Cesarinjean: nothing, it loaded like any usual program that goes in background09:05
Cesarindidnt worked at first, becase "no autorization" but then used sudo, and it seemed to load09:05
boxerboy29ty09:05
boxerboy29i think i did it09:06
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KArhutonnalioth: I just did an update09:06
KArhutonnalioth: Had used Hoary until that09:06
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Cesarinjeansch: the ls command still doesnt seem to work09:06
jeanschwhy ?09:07
Cesarinand Iand text is missing on x-chat again x_X09:07
CesarinIcant read a lot09:07
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KArhutonnalioth: I checked xorg.cfg and the directory of 'misc' fonts is full of font files09:07
KArhutonxfonts-base is installed properly09:07
naliothKArhuton: breezy updates are approximately 100 per day, have you updated your machine in the last few hours?09:07
blekosgrr cannot understand... hmm... anybody has sound problems??09:07
Cesarinkarhuton: yeah I did yesterday, then the problems started09:07
blekoscannot hear anything at all, even system sounds...09:07
pauldaoustblekos: many sound problems on weird hardware09:07
jeanschCesarin, apt-get install openssh-server09:08
blekosnot that weird09:08
CarlKso my $15 internet sharing box (NAT) wants to be DNS too, but cant resolve  bugzilla.ubuntu.com.  where do I set a static DNS IP?09:08
pauldaoustblekos: do you have a volume control button in your top panel?09:08
CesarinI had installed linux breezy via CD yesterday and it worked fine, except that It didnt recognized my videocard and monitor09:08
boxerboy29i had issues with my onboard soundcard09:08
KArhutonnalioth: I did an update just now and it only updated perl09:08
blekosyes it is on09:08
pauldaoustblekos: hum.09:08
Cesarinthe patches mthe patches let me to fix it, but then the mouse started09:08
blekosand vol 92%09:08
CarlKbut it can find us.archive.ubuntu.com... wacky...09:08
pauldaoustblekos: have you tried any command-line music players, like aplay or mpg321?09:08
Cesarinbrb09:08
naliothKArhuton: breezy is under heavy developement atm09:08
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blekosnop09:08
blekosi am nweb09:09
KArhutonnalioth: Yeah, I asked here if it was "working" and got only positive responses09:09
blekoswhat should i write :)09:09
pippijn|amd64hi all09:09
pippijn|amd64does anyone have an nvidia 6600GT with ubuntu?09:09
Cesarin it gives me an error now09:09
KArhutonnalioth: I'm gonna be back. Going to try something09:09
DaSkreechjeansch: Sorry Me again. On the page http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libxine1c2&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all how do I know which repository the package is in?09:09
pauldaoustblekos: okay, try this one: aplay /usr/share/sounds/shutdown.wav09:09
Cesarin"E:@ could not get the lock of  var/cache/09:09
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Cesarinand then it says " cannot block downloaind directory"09:10
Cesarinor something similar09:10
blekoshere is what i get09:10
pauldaousthey folks, I have a question. Well, two questions, actually. first is this: I manage computers for a school, and it's beastly trying to keep the kids from deleting panels. I know that I can either set a GConf key as mandatory, or write-protect the user's .gconf/apps/panels directory... any thoughts on which one is more proper/elegant?09:10
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pauldaoustproblem with setting keys as mandatory is that every user'09:11
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Cesarinjeansch: any ideas?09:11
pauldaoustproblem with setting keys as mandatory is that every users's panel now changes, and I don't want that.09:11
blekosbla bla: signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stero09:11
blekosbut I do not hear a thing09:11
Cesarinmaybe I just should wipe the partition and install again? :/09:12
jeanschCesarin, apt-get install openssh-server09:12
Cesarinjeansch: did that, gives me error09:12
blekosHDA alsa mixer looks install -from the volume bar-09:12
pippijn|amd64hey.. does anyone have an nvidia 6600GT with ubuntu?09:12
coaxis there anyone who uses gDesklets? i get errors about LTVcpu LTVmemory etc...09:12
jeanschah09:12
pippijn|amd64nobody?09:12
pauldaoustblekos: interesting. some sound cards need weird settings fiddled with. try the command alsamixer -- it's a command-line mixer proggie that shows some settings that the GNOME volume applet doesn't09:12
pauldaoustpippijn|amd64: not over here09:12
pippijn|amd64...09:12
ompaulpauldaoust, I would take the more not give them the freedom09:12
pippijn|amd64ok09:12
DaSkreechpauldaoust: can't you just chown on the panels?09:12
Cesarin"could not open lock file" then a full directory is shown09:12
ompaulpauldaoust, route - make it write protected09:13
Cesarinthen "cannot block the listing directory"09:13
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Cesaringo figure, all just because of a mouse error :P09:13
jeanschCesarin, df09:13
CesarinJeansch: I only cuold read "Cesarin, df"09:13
Cesarincan you write everything again?09:13
jeanschdf09:13
blekoshmmm09:13
pauldaoustompaul: thanks; I was wondering if that's bad gconf practice... but I'd seen it recommended before. And I still do want per-user control here; I don't want *my* panel changing to the mandatory setting too!09:13
coaxpippijn|amd64, what is the problem?09:13
athaCesarin: and you are running sudo apt-get... to ensure root privileges?09:14
Cesarinjust "df" ?09:14
jeanschyes09:14
jeanschdf09:14
Cesarinyeah09:14
pippijn|amd64I just want to know if it works with ubuntu09:14
pippijn|amd64the nvidia-glx09:14
pippijn|amd64it works with suse09:14
pippijn|amd64but suse still sucks09:14
Cesarinwith sudo, it loads a small % tab, but still says the same errors09:14
pauldaoustDaSkreech: good idea... it occurs to me that, if I just did chmod 444, nobody woiuld be able to access it, even administrator (unless I change it as root, which would be a hassle)09:14
pauldaoustDaSkreech: thanks for the sage advice :)09:14
jeanschCesarin, df /09:14
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Cesarin"could not get lock file <directory"[[B[[D recurse not advailaible09:14
ompaulpauldaoust, controls users and what they can do, and have as much freedom as you can cope with :)09:14
boxerboy29is there a place to see xchat commands?09:15
Cesarinnow I only could read  df/09:15
jeanschdf /09:15
coaxpipoun, i use nvidia-glx and have no problems!! at all...09:15
Cesarinjust df / ?09:15
jeanschyes09:15
jeanschdf /09:15
Cesarinsorry but im getting pissed at x-chat and its missing text>_<09:15
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ApotheoticSheepBack am I!09:15
pauldaoustnext question: hmmmm... what was my next question...09:15
pauldaoustuh...09:15
boxerboy29i have bitch-x but hell if i know how to use that yet09:16
Cesarinok09:16
Cesarinit says the following09:16
Cesarindev/09:16
ApotheoticSheepI get "GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:09:16
ApotheoticSheepAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.09:16
ApotheoticSheep" when I try running hte users-admin proggy from the terminal as root09:16
ompaulCesarin, if you think you are missing a command you can highlight it copy and paste - then the true text appears :)09:16
jeanschompaul, Cesarin use a text irc client, without mouse09:17
Cesarinit says /dev/hhdb2 blocks 29314364 used 224731209:17
Cesarinusage 9%09:17
Cesarinmounted /09:17
ApotheoticSheep:-=09:17
ApotheoticSheep:-\09:17
jeanschok09:17
Cesarinjeansch: im using x-chat text09:17
ApotheoticSheepAny help?09:17
Cesarinand still see a lot of text missing09:17
ompauljeansch, sorry I did ircii for 8 years I am not going back :)09:17
gsuvegSionide: hello09:17
Cesarin[A[A[A[A[A[A[B[B09:17
Cesarinnope, I cant highligh09:17
Cesarin[[Bclear09:17
Cesarinclear09:17
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Cesarinsorry for flood, text dissapeared suddenly09:18
blekosok here is the deal09:18
Cesarinand nope, I cant highligh, mouse is not even working09:18
Cesarinand im on x-chat text09:18
ApotheoticSheep?09:18
blekosmy card is HDA intel and the chip realtek09:18
naliothCesarin: use irssi in a console09:18
jeanschCesarin, do you have a lot of data ?09:18
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Cesarinjeansch: no, only 9% used of the hdd09:18
blekosif from the volume panel go to to preferences and chose the chip to control the volume09:18
naliothCesarin: go to www.irssi.org for a quick tutorial09:19
blekosthen the volume looks disabled09:19
jeanschCesarin, nop, personal datas ?09:19
Gobblahey guys I cant load grub I get error 18... how do I fix this?09:19
blekosif I use the card -reasonable-09:19
blekossounds looks ok09:19
Cesarinif you mejean: nope, just installed yesterday09:19
Cesarinso its all clean09:19
CesarinI supose its time to destroy thep artition and reinstall again?09:19
jeanschCesarin, then, folow my thinks :)09:19
blekosoopss09:19
blekosi think i found something09:19
jeanschCesarin, sorry09:19
Cesarinjean: fire away, Ill do what you mean09:20
Cesarinwhat you say I mean09:20
blekosFRIENDS09:20
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blekoshuston this Athens we've made contact...09:20
blekos!!!09:20
jeanschCesarin, there is just a preview, of breezy here : http://xrl.us/hh4u09:20
ubotumethinks ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me09:20
[PG] _Sinnlosknows anywhere anywhat about lirc ?09:20
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Cesarinjean: preview for what? o_O09:20
jeanschCesarin, ubuntu 5.10 (breezy)09:21
Cesarinyeah but why a preview?09:21
jeanschCesarin, that will get released the 5.1009:21
jeanschCesarin, preview release09:21
Cesarinjean: I downloaded the CD on the ubuntu's site YESTERDAY09:21
jeanschjeansch, it's a funn breezy09:21
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jeanschCesarin, ok09:22
Cesarinit was the "breezy"09:22
Cesarinand installedf it09:22
Cesarinbut like i said, it worked fine by the CD09:22
jeanschCesarin, breezy changes everydays09:22
Cesarinuntil tuntil the patches09:22
DaSkreechpackages.ubuntu.com is not very helpful :-(09:22
elad`I configured my modem for pppoe, but Ubuntu doesn't recognize it (I'm back on WinXP to ask you what to do). Help?09:22
CesarinI installed the patches it told me to download09:22
Cesarinand BANG, restarted and now it doesnt detect my mouse09:22
pauldaoustoh yeah! that was my second question: has anyone been trying Breezy on old hardware with modest specs, say, between 400 MHz and 800 MHz? I'm concerned about upgrading to GTK+ 2.8 with its new Cairo dependency, if the old machinery in this school will grind to a screeching halt.09:22
CesarinI just want to fix it. I supose its the only problem09:22
ompaulelad`, what kind of modem is it?09:22
esac_is it difficult to get wireless working with WPA (windows radius server) ?09:22
Cesarinisnt there another way?09:22
jeanschCesarin, ok, well, re-install it, and wait for the release before upgrade it09:22
elad`B-Focus 312+09:22
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elad`Connected through ethernet.09:23
boxerboy29i am running breezy on a 450mhz 512 ram09:23
elad`Shouldn't it be autorecognized?09:23
Cesarinjean: I tought this was the "final" release lol, why you think I burned it? :P09:23
Cesarinbtw, will destroyint the partition of liunux damage the Grub boot thing?09:23
naliothCesarin: final release is oct 1309:23
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Cesarinnalioth: yeah but didnt know that , at the time I burned it09:23
ApotheoticSheepdabar, you here?09:23
elad`Would it be autorecognized if I used PPPoA?09:23
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blekosdoes anybody else hears "noise" from his speakers were they are on?09:23
blekoscorrection09:24
elad`Help?09:24
blekoslaptop speakers09:24
boxerboy29us beta users can upgrade to final right? or are we burning it again?09:24
Cesarinok jean: can you tell me a way to change the mouse thingies? or I do have to restart?09:24
Cesarinreinstall I mean09:24
CesarinI cant believe just for a bad mouse detection i have to restart hehe :P09:24
Cesarinsome french guy told me I needed to change a lil command of the mice to another /dev directory09:24
athafirst link in the topic09:24
elad`Do you people realise how much porn I had to delete to install Ubuntu? And now it won't recognize my net connection?09:25
esac_why do you have to restart ?09:25
Cesarin*lol* @ porn09:25
boxerboy29atleast its not like winblows and u have to restart after adding something09:25
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Cesarinreinstall I mean09:25
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Cesarinbtw, btw, how do I close this progrma?09:25
glDaherI'm looking for an advice, I have just got my new box... amd64 with two monitors on a geforce 6800gt .. I used to install linux-686 <-- now would it be suitable? and second, what's the best way to get my twinview mode work correctly... and do I go for breezy or hoary... ?09:25
Cesarinwhats the command to close x-chat-text btw?09:26
naliothboxerboy29: you can upgrade09:26
boxerboy29what program?09:26
CesarinI think ill give irssi I think ill try irssi09:26
ompaulelad`, if you have ethernet on your PC connected to Ethernet on the modem then it is not the modem it is your ethernet :) please try system - administration - networking09:26
naliothCesarin: click the "x" at the top right corner09:26
blekoswhen I play a cd then close it, and try to reloaded i get the message that cdda://dev/hdb is not available...09:26
naliothCesarin: /quit09:26
Cesarinnalioth. I repeat, im NOW ON W XINWODWS09:26
Cesarinim on xchat-text09:26
blekosi have to eject it and then insterted back...!!!09:26
elad`ompaul, and do what in there?09:27
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ompaulfirst up go there and second see if you can activate your ethernet card09:27
cesarinokey, here I am with irssi09:27
cesarinyay! I can read everything now!09:27
boxerboy29lol09:27
esac_cesarin : why aren't you in X ?09:27
cesarinesac_: because X got destroyed by a mouse problem09:27
glDahernobody could advice me on that?09:28
cesarinit keeps giving me fatal error09:28
ompaulcesarin,  running breezy?09:28
cesarin"no core pointer"09:28
naliothbreezy ate cesarin's X09:28
glDaherI can give details on what I want, but.. pff09:28
cesarinompual: sadly yeah09:28
esac_cesarin : probably because it can't find your mouse. downgrade to udev 12 and then restart udev and restart gdm09:28
cesarinlike I said, it worked fine on my CD's version09:28
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cesarinit didnt detected my videocard, so I updated everything like the program told me09:28
cesarinthen I restarted09:28
cesarinand bang, it started giving me "no core point" errors09:28
esac_cesarin: yes that is your problem then09:28
cesarinesac_: give me the full things I have to type, since im a noob09:29
cesarin<-- installed linux yesterday too :P09:29
ompaulcesarin, breezy is development - it will break - that is the way of development - it has to be this way so that bugs are fixed for release09:29
cesarinompaul: well I had the mistake of burning it, thinking it was the "stable" release09:29
ompaulcesarin, for you stable is a better bet 5.0409:29
athatry "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install udev" if the udev from your mirror is updated to the working version09:29
cesarinompaul: well yes09:30
ompaulcesarin, well I suggest u get hoary and enjoy it :)09:30
cesarinesac_: ok then that means theres no way to fix a mouse problem ? :P09:30
ompaulcesarin, unless you like living on the edge :)09:30
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cesarinompaul:Im a man of action babe :P09:30
esac_cesarin : wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/udev/udev-udeb_0.060-1ubuntu12_i386.udeb09:30
cesarindo i type that in console?09:30
athayes09:30
cesarinok give me a hand, I have to write that09:31
esac_cesarin : forgot that, i pasted the wrong link09:31
esac_cesarin: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/udev/udev_0.060-1ubuntu12_i386.deb09:31
esac_dpkg -i udev_0.060-1ubuntu12_i386.deb09:31
esac_/etc/init.d/udev restart09:31
esac_/etc/init.d/gdm restart09:31
esac_do those 4 things09:31
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cesarinbtw esac: im on a 64 bit version of ubuntu09:32
cesarinAMD athlon 6409:32
cesarinis that still the correct deb?09:32
DVSoftwareno09:32
esac_cesarin : just change i386 to amd64 then09:32
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cesarinok, writing09:33
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jrinkovswho do I need to contact to become an official mirror09:33
Inf3ctedfxHello ppl, I have my fstab line to munt my slave HDD used to be windows slave hdd, and is like this:  /dev/hdb       /media/slave    ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       009:33
Inf3ctedfxwhen I try to mount it, it said is already mounted and busy09:33
cesarinok brb, doing that09:34
esac_Inf3ctedfx: did you try umount'ing it first .. are you sure its not already mounted ?09:34
blekoshello again, how can ubuntu detect my usb modem?09:35
esac_blekos: plug it in, and if it is supported it will work09:35
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esac_blekos: dmesg to see if it recognized it09:35
blekoshmm it is not supported then...09:36
blekosdmesg?09:36
blekosoops i get a bunch of hmm errors09:36
cesarinok it gives me a gnome error09:36
cesarinit just trows me a "FAIL" when initializing it09:36
boxerboy29i feel kinda stupid for asking since it wasnt too long ago i did it but what is the change nickname command?09:36
cesarinbut everything else worked fine09:36
esac_cesarin: are you in X now ?09:36
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cesarinboxerboy29: its /nick <yournewnick>09:36
cesarinesac_: nope09:37
boxerboy29ty09:37
cesarinI'm still in console09:37
cesarinshould I try running "X" ?09:37
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esac_cesarin: /etc/init.d/gdm restart should work if it is going to work09:37
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[PG] _Sinnlosknows anywhere anywhat about lirc ?09:37
cesarinlike I said, it give sme a "FAIL" when initializing the gnome engine09:37
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esac_cesarin: what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE say ?09:37
cesarinlet me type everything just like it appears09:37
blekosafter the errors i got that usb2-1 new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 209:38
blekos....09:38
cesarinesac_ : no idea, how do I see that09:38
mad_pheonixdoes anybody have any experience with mono libs?  i can't seem to find glade-sharp, glib-sharp, etc. in the apt repos09:38
tom___After an apt-get upgrade in breezy I find myself X-less. Has this been happening to others today? Can anyone help me get X back? (I've been using breezy for a few weeks now)09:38
esac_cesarin: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE09:38
cesarintom__ Im struggling the same atm09:38
tom___cesarin At least I'm not alone :)09:38
boxerboyx windowless?09:38
esac_tom___: you i386 ?09:38
tom___esac_ Yup.09:38
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moparfan90hello09:38
moparfan90long time no see09:38
boxerboyi finally got my x windows back09:39
esac_sorry for the small paste, but tom___ :09:39
esac_wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/udev/udev_0.060-1ubuntu12_i386.deb09:39
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cesarinweird09:39
esac_dpkg -i udev_0.060-1ubuntu12_i386.deb09:39
cesarinesac_ is there a way to send you said log so you can examine it?09:39
esac_/etc/init.d/udev restart09:40
esac_/etc/init.d/gdm restart09:40
cesarinbecause it gives me now weird graphic errors09:40
cesarinlike frecuencies too high  while the driver's maximum seems ot be 11009:40
boxerboywho do i speak to to get a password reset?09:40
moparfan90is there a way to install ubuntu without gnome  and gdm?09:40
esac_cesarin : sounds like a graphics driver issue, but sure, throw it on pastebin.com09:40
cesarinesac_: cough.. I dont know how to do that witouth X running :P09:40
cesarin<-- hardcore winbloze user09:41
tom___esac_ I'll give that a go.09:41
tom___esac_ Geez, I had to type fast -- I forgot to run a screen before starting up bitchx and don't know how to copy from this thing :)09:41
boxerboymoparfan90: i dont think there is when i install it gnome is default and it doesnt let me choose packages09:41
naliothmoparfan90: yes, choose server install, and choose the *dm of your choice09:41
moparfan90yeah i know i justed ubuntu for a long time09:41
moparfan90oo09:42
esac_tom___: alt rightarrow, alt leftarrow switches you to new sessions really quickly09:42
moparfan90sould i do that or try debian09:42
tom___esac_ Thanks!09:42
cesarintom___: using paper in rl to write everything lol09:42
boxerboymalioth: server install lets you choose packages?09:42
esac_cesarin: lol, there has got to be an easier way :)09:42
cesarinesac_: sadly, Im like in the old MS-DOS times09:42
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naliothmoparfan90: boxerboy: yes, server install only installs a console environment. you can then choose your window mangler, desktop mangler and whatnot09:43
boxerboyoh cool09:43
cesarinesac_: well any othr tips to upload that thing to paste, would be really apreciated09:43
moparfan90ok09:43
cesarinunless you want me to leave linux and go to winbloze09:43
cesarinto send you the file..09:43
tom___cesarin Geez is that a threat?09:43
cesarintom__ : lol no09:44
boxerboyjust liek an old wise man said "why pay for something when you can get it free"09:44
cesarinIm just a total noob to linux, so.. I dont know how to do things in linux so.. I still got winblze09:44
tom___cesarin: In my first linux install (yellowdog), the mouse was active in the terminal by default and selected/copied text easily. No such thing here.09:44
cesarinboxerboy: unless YOU DONT KNOW how to install it :P09:44
naliothtom___: install gpm09:44
cesarintom__ thats my main problem, X ate my mouse and then witouth mouse, X doesnt work ;P09:45
naliothcesarin: isntall gpm09:45
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cesarincommand please?09:45
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tom___esac_ Alright! X is back! Thanks.09:45
El_Chesudo apt-get install gpm09:45
tom___nalioth: Thanks for the tip.09:45
cesarinty09:45
cesarin*writes in rl*09:45
boxerboylol true but alot of linux distros are pretty much intalling themselves   :)09:45
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lsuactiafnerwhats latest colony release?09:46
lsuactiafner!colony09:46
ubotulsuactiafner: Wish i knew09:46
boxerboy4 last i heard09:46
cesarinok installed09:46
cesarinbut it gives me errors09:46
elad`So, I'm connected and on Ubuntu, but I have to ping whatever server I want to use, then connect to its IP, not DNS (am I getting my thingies right?). Help?09:46
boxerboydoes ubuntu have rc1&2?09:46
cesarinok, no errors, mouse seems to be ok09:47
cesarinbut it says some kind of errors " no such file or directory"09:47
esac_elad`: translation "you are in linux and you are trying to connect to your windows boxes by name, but it doesn't work. if you do it by IP it works" .. is that right ?09:47
naliothboxerboy: not yet09:47
cesarinok nalioth: now what I should do?09:48
elad`No. I'm on Ubuntu, and I need to "ping irc.freenode.net", and get an IP number to do /server <number> to if I want to have this conversation with you.09:48
boxerboyoh ok09:48
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elad`And Firefox only worked after I disabled some IPv6 thingie.09:48
elad`Any ideas?09:48
cesarinesac_:  any other tips?09:48
naliothcesarin: anything you like09:48
cesarinor should I definitively wipe breezy? :P09:48
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esac_cesarin : wget to post the log somewhere ?09:48
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boxerboybreezy really isnt that bad09:49
cesarinesac_: but I dont know how to go there to upload it x_X09:49
cesarinisnt there a way to send you via here? :P09:49
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esac_i love breezy09:49
FloKhi all09:49
boxerboysome minor things that need to be worked out but all in all its good09:49
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esac_cesarin: i dont know if i can accept dcc, but you can try .. /dcc send /var/log/Xorg.0.log (i believe)09:49
FloKnew install and everything fine out of the box :) great09:49
jnevesis there anything particular to make ubuntu work with ldap as authentication? my first attempt failed miserably and I wasn't able to find the problem...09:50
cesarinok, triying09:50
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FloKinternet via pppoe, started from pppoeconf and pon09:50
boxerboytruthfully i dont really see much difference between 5.04 and 5.1009:50
cesarindid you received it esac_?09:50
esac_cesarin: /dcc send esac_ /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:50
creartAnyone using danish keyboard layout with breeze??09:50
cesarinok, retriying09:50
cesarinthere09:50
FloKbut now wondering how to go offline, poff says /usr/bin/poff: /bin/kill failed.  None stopped.09:51
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FloKifconfig tells me ppp0 is still active09:51
Stormx2Yo09:51
elad`Guys?09:51
lsuactiafnerhow do i get edonkey to work?09:51
Stormx2How would I go about configuring my Creative webcam as a V4L device?09:51
CookedGryphoni disconnect by unplugging the cable.09:51
esac_cesarin: try one more time09:51
cesarinok, triying09:51
jnevesFloK: killall pppd?09:51
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cesarinthere09:51
irctonkarwalla! :D09:52
Stormx2!v4l09:52
ubotuStormx2: Are you smoking crack?09:52
cesarinjneves: murdereR! :P09:52
boxerboylmao09:52
elad`irctonkar, Israeli?09:52
Stormx2!botsnack09:52
ubotuthanks stormx2 :)09:52
irctonkar=P, no ....., ircotonkar Chile ;)09:52
CookedGryphonlol09:52
elad`I need a local boy.09:52
Stormx2>_<09:52
elad`linxu boy :/09:52
cesarinelad: pedo? :P09:52
cesarinjk lol09:52
irctonkarspanish?09:52
Stormx2Yo, anyone configured a webcam on ubuntu?09:53
cesarin<-- Mexican :O09:53
CookedGryphonelad`, ru sure ure int eh right type of chatroom?09:53
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Stormx2are you sure you are not leaning on your keyboard?09:53
Stormx2^_^09:53
esac_cesarin: the logfile you sent me still says that it couldn't find your mouse09:53
HieronymusCan someone help me with gpg and Evolution?09:53
irctonkarcesarin: me entiendes?09:53
Ainvar<--- Human ;)09:53
cesarinaja, pero este canal no es para espaol09:53
cesarinhay otro para espanol09:53
cesarinesac_: then?...09:53
cesarinits weird, I swear it worked fine before the patches09:53
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jnevesHieronymus: yes09:54
irctonkara si? ...., ok, en ingles entonces, para practicarlo09:54
FloKjneves, i could do that , but it's my dad's box and i want it user friendly09:54
cesarinseems the new breezy doesnt like my usb powered Intellimouse Explorer v309:54
esac_cesarin: all i am seeing in that log file is "no core pointer"09:54
esac_cesarin: did you do the steps i said before ?09:54
FloKso he can dial in again09:54
cesarinesac_ all of them09:54
cesarinsome load just fine, others give warnings of missing files09:54
cesarinbut in general they install just fine09:54
apokryphos!es09:54
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:54
jnevesFloK: define a timeout and set up dial-on-demand so he doesn't have to dial? ;)09:54
Hieronymusjneves: can you tell me where I configure it (yes, stupid question). I already have made a key09:54
elad`OK, different approach - how do I install pptp support?09:55
cesarinlet me redo everything09:55
Stormx2anyone set up webcam?09:55
Stormx2:<09:55
FloKso just wanna ask if there's no x tool for pppoe in common install from cd 4/(05 ?09:55
CookedGryphonFloK, if you want user friendly y not use the modem applet in gnome09:55
FloKgnome is default here09:55
irctonkarmmm ....., who can help me ?, yesterday i done security upgrades and today i can't access to my xserver,  it launch me first the nvidia logo but it failed later09:56
CookedGryphonFloK, jsut add to panel the modem monitor, u right click and then there's activate and disactivate options09:56
entr0pyHi, it's normal to get only 300~ fps with intel 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics ?09:56
boxerboyok im getting the idea i need to enable multi universe to get java runtime for firefox09:56
gsuvegentr0py: its in 3d ?09:56
FloKCookedGryphon, trying09:56
naliothboxerboy: breezy? or hoary?09:56
boxerboybreezy09:56
irctonkarFatal error: failed to initialize core devices09:56
esac_cesarin: wget http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=370297  chmod a+x 370297.txt ./370297.txt09:57
entr0pygsuveg, sorry, in glxgears09:57
naliothboxerboy: get java here http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/ for breezy09:57
FloKbye09:57
jnevesHieronymus: wait I second, I have to translate the interface09:57
gsuvegentr0py: you use sw 3d ?09:57
boxerboynalioth: ty i will try it09:57
moyogoany body having problems with breezy's 2.6.13 kernels for k7?09:57
entr0pygsuveg, i don't understand.. sorry :/09:57
pc22Seveas, whens the final release of breezy?09:58
FloKstill here :)09:58
moyogoI loose my mouse and soundcard when booting with it09:58
gsuvegentr0py: me too ;)09:58
athairctonkar: try to install latest version of package udev09:58
naliothpc22: oct 1309:58
FloKthe interface options are unset here on modem monitor property dialog CookedGryphon09:58
Hieronymusjneves: What language do you use?09:58
jnevesHieronymus: Edit -> Preferences -> Mail accounts -> choose one -> Security Tab -> first field is the key id09:58
gsuvegentr0py: i dont know: for intel you have 3d driver ?09:58
athaor then version ending with 1209:58
jnevesHieronymus: portuguese09:58
pc22thanks09:59
FloKi could enter the data here even i put it already in pppoeconf09:59
irctonkaratha: ok, i will try ...09:59
CookedGryphonFloK, can't u set them09:59
FloKi do09:59
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entr0pygsuveg, no its a hoary default installation..09:59
CookedGryphonyeah set em09:59
irctonkaratha: what is it?09:59
CookedGryphonit sues a different file09:59
CookedGryphonits like typing pon ppp0#09:59
pc22nalioth, i wonder why my printer fucks up with breezy. so for now i have to bear with hoary09:59
gsuveghoary>breezy dist upgrade works without crash, right ?09:59
FloKwhat surprised me: pppoeconf connected to my ISP with only username and pw10:00
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FloKdidnt tell IP adress10:00
entr0pygsuveg, in glxinfo "direct rendering: Yes"10:00
boxerboynalioth: i can get away with j2re?10:00
FloKor DNS , nothing10:00
gsuvegentr0py: ok, then you use imho software 3d ?10:00
elad`Please help.10:00
CookedGryphonflok? what do u mean?10:00
CookedGryphonoh rite, mine doesn't need ip10:00
athairctonkar: deamon creating and removing certain devices under /dev10:00
irctonkaratha: it didn't work10:00
CookedGryphondidn't kno there were any that did10:00
CookedGryphonit jstu does it automatically'10:00
irctonkaratha: mmm ..... but wait10:01
elad`pppoeconf doesn't recognize my netwrok connection, and you can see I AM connected.10:01
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Hieronymusjneves: that's like the public key you get from gpg --fingerprint yourname, right?10:01
Cesarinhere I am10:01
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entr0pygsuveg, :?? i only want to play some 3d game, the ""benchmark"" was with glxgears10:01
athadid it install version ending with 14 or haven't you updated the package lists yet?10:01
Cesarinesac_: thanks a lot man, it works now, but now it says again that a lot of patches are advailiable to install10:01
Cesarinand I dont want to touch them for now :P10:01
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irctonkaratha: yes, it instelled me the 14 version10:02
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gsuvegentr0py: clear, you use sw 3d emulation, this isnt fast10:02
Cesarinbtw.. any way to return to the other consoles to turn off the programs I left running?10:02
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gerarconehow can i open .svg files?10:02
jnevesHieronymus: only the first part10:02
gerarconewith gimp i can't10:02
libbenI wanna remove useless daemons, like hprinting services... i dont have a printer. how do i remove them?10:02
gsuveggerarcone: inkscape10:02
libbenand how do i list whats runned10:02
pc22nalioth, hwo do i edit my grub entry?10:02
entr0pygsuveg, ok.. then? i must find a driver? or.. ?10:02
FloKi guess kill failed cause i do poff as user ??10:02
gerarconegsuveg: tx10:02
athairctonkar: try reloading "sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart" and "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"10:02
Hieronymusjneves: 1024D/05BCB26210:03
Hieronymusjneves: that part?10:03
irctonkaratha: ok10:03
FloKi am not yet familiar with this strane no-root-user-in-ubuntu concept10:03
esac_Cesarin: just dont install udev10:03
jnevesHieronymus: it's 05BCB26210:03
gsuvegentr0py: other card imho ;)10:03
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Cesarinesac_ : ok, tha tmight be the problem then?10:03
jnevesHieronymus: that's your key id10:03
CesarinI was inspecting it and thikning the same10:03
CookedGryphonflok could do yea10:03
entr0pygsuveg, laptop.. :P10:03
elad`How do I disable IPv6?10:03
FloKhow would i do this as root?10:04
esac_Cesarin: udev_0.060-1ubuntu13_*.deb is broken10:04
FloKsudo poff  # ?10:04
gsuvegentr0py: then, dont play, work harder :D10:04
Cesarinic...10:04
irctonkaratha: =D, beautiful .... it works ;)10:04
Hieronymusjneves: shouldn't I enter the secret key id?10:04
athagood to hear10:04
Cesarinso you guys found out that it was the .deb file and not me? :P10:04
CookedGryphonflok yeah10:04
entr0pygsuveg, but working all day is boring.. :/10:04
jnevesHieronymus: no10:04
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athaCesarin: it has been the problem for (almost) everyone10:05
gsuvegentr0py: i have same laptop10:05
Cesarinatha: well thankss for helping me! :D10:05
entr0pygsuveg, joybook 2100e ?10:05
gsuvegasus a310:05
irctonkaratha: thanks a lot, bye10:05
entr0pythere is people that can play good 3d games with it10:05
gsuveghow ?10:05
entr0pyi don't know ..  :/10:06
entr0pythey perhaps do some voodoo ..10:06
gsuvegentr0py: lol, the et isnt bad game10:06
scenestarhey10:06
entr0pytomorrow i will try with windows.. to see if it is a problem of drivers10:06
anatolehmmm, is there some other way i should use for installing extensions to firefox?10:07
scenestarwhere did the winetools package go :(10:07
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Cesarinok now the question is10:07
anatolejust clicking the link of the xpi kills ffx all the time10:07
Cesarinis there something that can enable linux to read NTFS partitions?10:07
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gsuvegentr0py: i think with windows you can play in 3d, not insane fast, but playable10:07
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entr0pygsuveg, but at least i will play quake 3.. with linux I CAN'T!10:08
gsuvegentr0py: but i dont give my freedom for a play option in windows10:08
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Cesarinbrb guys, gotta shower :P10:08
Cesarinim stinky x_X10:08
elad`How do I prevent IPv6 from loading?10:08
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boxerboy29do you install bittorrents the same way as regular downloads?10:10
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jrattner1diamonds10:11
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jrattner1are forever10:11
lakinSo apparently x-chat joins this channel before my automated nick login takes place.  This lands me in #ubuntu-unregged almost everytime, anyone know of a way to solve this?10:11
tristanmikeboxerboy29, which bt clien?10:11
jrattner1Does breezy have kde bluetooth framework?10:11
boxerboy29gnome10:12
Riddelljrattner1: yes10:12
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matthew_wFor some reason, when I run smeg, it hangs and in the terminal it gives me a traceback, what does this mean?10:12
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tristanmikeboxerboy29, Gnome BitTorrent?10:13
boxerboy29tristanmike: yes10:13
tristanmikeboxerboy29, should be there by default, in Hoary right?10:13
boxerboy29tristanmike: breezy10:13
scenestarwoah10:13
tristanmikeboxerboy29, ahh, sorry, missed that10:14
scenestarthat was weird10:14
scenestari just pulled my utp cable and it still works10:14
scenestarsomeone please ctcp ping me10:14
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boxerboy29tristanmike: i just got done downloading j2re and was wondering if i install that the same way as regular download10:14
thinklemy wireless card appears to be on the out (it got a little bent and now I'm losing a good number of packets...) so I'm thinking of buying a new one. I googled a bit but couldn't find a list of of good wireless cards for ubuntu. Did I miss something obvious or is there no such list?10:14
tristanmikeboxerboy29, why don't you use Azureus?10:14
boxerboy29tristanmike: ummmm didnt know what it was10:15
j-linuxtwo questions: I accidentally deleted my gaim icon in the system tray on the top left.  Is there any way to get it back?  Also, I can10:15
tristanmikeboxerboy29, oh, as far as I'm concerned, it10:15
j-linuxsorry.. also I can't get KNotes to have some kind of control in the panel.10:15
tristanmikeboxerboy29, it's the shizznit10:15
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tristanmikeboxerboy29, check it out.... http://azureus.sourceforge.net/10:16
j-linuxmy KNotes just disappear10:17
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boxerboy29i will ty10:18
athaelad`: try editing /etc/modprobe.d/aliases , comment line "alias net-pf-10 ipv6" or something, I'm not sure of the correct way10:19
athaor change that alias into something else than ipv6 :)10:19
athathat should prevent the ipv6 module from loading10:19
elad`atha, some site said add "off"10:20
elad`I'll be trying this momentarily.10:20
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raiden24anyone willing to give some quick advice on fwbuilder?10:21
raiden24I have have some quick questions10:21
deFryskraiden24, be quick then10:22
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raiden24ok, I want to forward a public static IP to an internal IP address.10:22
boxerboy29ok what kida crap is this?10:22
raiden24just forward all traffic through my router10:22
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raiden24I have two IPs set on ETH010:23
raiden24in fwbuilder10:23
raiden24and when I do that10:23
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raiden24it does not work per the fwbuilder guide10:23
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boxerboy290 upgraded 0 newly installed,0 to remove and 4 not upgraded10:23
raiden24even with a global policy set for permissions10:23
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tristanmikesorry about that boxerboy29, I lost my desktop there, it was weird10:23
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elad`That didn't help.10:23
boxerboy29tristanmike: its ok just not liking this right now10:24
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athathat's weird, it worked for me when I tried10:24
elad`How about killing the ipv6 process?10:24
raiden24so I am confused10:25
boxerboy29ok apt-get install <packagename> isnt working10:25
timewaveI am new to using linux. I am trying to use ubuntu on a thinkpad 600e. I am having problems with sound and video. Anybody know about this? Also where do I access the command line from the desktop?10:25
raiden24timewave ctrl-alt f110:26
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crearta question; in which directory do i find the X window files??10:27
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boxerboy29ok back to basics here how do you install a .deb.torrent package10:28
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timewaveCan I use the sndconfig command in ubuntu?10:29
boxerboy29apt-get install doesnt wanna work with me tonight10:29
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El_Chemaybe you should be nice to her, not only when you want to use her :)10:29
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timewaveCan I list the available commands from the prompt. I am following instructions from IBM that says to use the sndconfig command. It says no such command.10:31
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deFryskboxerboy29, a .torren tfile needs to be downloaded with a bittorrent client10:32
worthawholebeanHow can I burn a CloneCD image? (.ccd, .img, .cue)10:32
worthawholebeaner, not .cue .sub10:32
worthawholebeaninstead10:32
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boxerboy29defrysk: its downloaded im trying to install it10:32
thenuketimewave: please just say what your problem is10:32
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test34when I play movies with mplayer, it isnt smooth.. what can cause that ?10:33
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deFryskboxerboy29, what file are you trying to install ?10:33
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kemiktest34:  alot of factors.. be more specific10:33
boxerboy29sun-j2re1.510:33
thenuketimewave: and as you can see, there is not much happening here at the night, you propably should try again at the day time(gmt+2 in here)10:33
timewaveI need to use the sndconfig command to set up my sound card according to IBM. This command does not work. Is there another command I can use?10:33
kemiktest34:  ie; what sort of movies, from HD, web, Cd .. etc etc etc etc10:34
deFryskboxerboy29, ever read the wiki on restricted formats ?10:34
CarlKbreezy fun: HP 812c printer, test page, the job is in the queue, nothing is happening.  lsusb shows the printer.  where should I look for blues clues?10:34
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boxerboy29defrysk: didnt know there was one10:34
deFrysk!tell boxerboy29 about java10:34
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CarlK!tell CarlK about printer diagnostic fun10:34
CarlKdern bot...10:35
deFryskboxerboy29, read what ubotu send to you10:35
kitschI have a question about installing software. Most of the time ./configure doesn't work for me. I've tried to install several programs today, and checked the archives for README and INSTALL files first, but I get "bash: ./configure: No such file or directory". Note that it sometimes works. Anybody know what could be the problem?10:35
boxerboy29defrysk: i did im going to the page now10:35
test34kemik, from HD and it's an mpeg10:35
deFrysk!tell boxerboy29 about sunjava10:35
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ThePyromaniachey guys, i have been doing some C++ programing at college (good old cout << "Hello World << endl;) and i want to continue at home10:36
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boxerboy29defrysk: so i do need multi universe sources added?10:37
test34kemik, it works fine in totem10:37
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ThePyromaniacas i doubt there is a .NET suit (and frankly i dont want one) and idea how to get code compiled on linux?10:37
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thenukeThePyromaniac: go to librarary10:37
surfdue_yay breezy is out!10:37
ThePyromaniaci tried a few examples10:37
ThePyromaniacbreezy is out?! :D10:37
surfdue_I didnt know, I thought it was our in october :)10:37
boxerboy29surfdue_: not yet10:37
surfdue_oh?10:37
surfdue_I ordered cds already?10:37
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test34kemik, so it's the codec ?10:37
surfdue_lol10:37
boxerboy29oct. 13th10:37
kemiktest34:  then use totem ;) dont know what could be wrong10:37
surfdue_oh!10:37
CarlKThePyromaniac, mono is ditnet for linux10:37
darklogichi :)10:37
surfdue_my cds will be shipped when its released right?10:38
surfdue_not the preiview release?10:38
deFryskboxerboy29, ubotu send you also some info on sunjava and yes they need to be added10:38
kemiktest34:  could be.. cant tell for sure... but a plain mpg should playback just fine in mplayer10:38
ThePyromaniaccarlk it have a build in compiler, or use gcc?10:38
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boxerboy29ok thank you i had a feeling they needed to be10:38
CarlKThePyromaniac, no clue.10:38
deFryskboxerboy29, read and bookmark this page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation10:38
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darklogici just added /home/darklogic to /etc/exports but i don't know what permissions need to be set for me to write to the directory remotely. can anyone help?10:39
CarlKThePyromaniac, all I can say is: if you want .net stuff, find out about "the mono project"10:39
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darklogici can read from it just fine10:39
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deFryskerm , a Mandrake  ?10:39
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Madpilotdarklogic: what formatting is that drive using?10:40
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surfdue_does anyone have screenies of the new graphical install for breezy?10:40
boxerboy29defrysk: thank you10:40
darklogicMadpilot, you mean the filesystem?10:41
deFrysksurfdue_, same as in hoary afaIk10:41
ThePyromaniacthanks carlk10:41
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surfdue_no!10:41
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surfdue_ther eis a new graphical isntall.10:41
deFrysksurfdue_,  no ?10:41
ThePyromaniacjust wrestling with amarok right now, getting it on gnome is fune, lol10:41
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surfdue_yes...10:41
Madpilotdarklogic: yes - if it's NTFS, you won't be able to write to it10:41
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deFrysksurfdue_, is there now ?10:41
surfdue_hmm?10:41
darklogicMadpilot, it is not ntfs. it's one of the linux filesystems. ext2 i think10:42
LaserLineHello All - Did all you hear that Opera became FREE Software ?10:42
Cesarinyep we did10:42
vrlnfree as in price, not as in open source10:42
Cesarinwell at least me10:42
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darklogicMadpilot, and who the hell would have /home on an ntfs10:42
deFryskLaserLine, still closed source so no big deal10:42
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ThePyromaniacdoes anyone reccomend upgrading to breezy yet? its not still TOO buggy right? ^^10:42
LaserLineIt's closed source, but it's a good peace of software....10:42
deFryskopera is crap anyway10:42
Madpilotdarklogic: heh, sorry, missed that it was your /home directory... anyway, have you checked the permissions of it?10:43
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LaserLineSun's Java Run-Time Environment is closed source, but most of us use it....10:43
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deFryskLaserLine, java is also crap10:43
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LaserLinedeFrysk so what do you use ?10:43
darklogicMadpilot, the permissions are 755. i think the problem is that my remote user isn't in the group10:43
mjrLaserLine, still, most of us don't hype that Java is FREE ;)10:43
darklogicMadpilot, if that makes sense10:44
jknifeis it normal for my keyboard to stop working in X after the upgrade?10:44
deFryskLaserLine, I use java cos there is no way around it but its still crap10:44
emilebtw is there a free as in source java runtime?10:44
LaserLinemjr what 'bout flash (even though i hate flash sites)10:44
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Madpilotdarklogic: it does, sort of, and that's beyond my knowledge... sorry.10:44
deFryskbut opera I can do without thank god10:44
darklogicMadpilot, ok. thank you anyway10:44
apokryphosLaserLine: why? They're cool and hip and nice ;-)10:44
surfdue_it was in their plans10:44
surfdue_somewhere10:44
Cesarin!sunjava10:44
ubotuFor Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java  ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy)10:44
LaserLinedeFrysk I think Opera is better then FF on low-end machines like mine.10:44
Madpilotdarklogic: np10:45
surfdue_!install10:45
uboturumour has it, install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation10:45
surfdue_ !newbreezyinstall10:45
ubotuI haven't a clue, surfdue_10:45
deFryskLaserLine, good for you then10:45
apokryphossurfdue_: investigate in /msg10:45
mjrLaserLine, well what about it? It's non-FREE too ;)10:45
deFrysk!upgrade10:45
ubotuOne-line upgrade: sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade10:45
Madpilotlater, all. got to get to work... (blech...)10:45
LaserLinedeFrysk and it doesn't have that rendering bug with scroling java script text. CPU goes 100% ballistic...10:45
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deFryskLaserLine, good fot you ...10:46
Cesarinanyone can tell me how to download the JAVA plugins for firefox?10:46
Cesarin!flash10:46
ubotuflash is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:46
deFrysk!tell Cesarin about sunjava10:46
apokryphosCesarin: /msg ubotu sunjava10:46
apokryphosYou get flash if you install flashplayer-mozilla from Multiverse, but that page will tell you that10:46
deFryskCesarin, I think you got flooded privatly :D10:47
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LaserLinedeFrysk I tried using FF on www.ynet.co.il (it's like the Israeli CNN) and cpu goes 100%, tried it on a wide number of machines, even live cd and all have same effect... it has a scrolling java-scrip window on it, is it a gecko rendering error, because ephiphany gives same effect. Opera and Konquerer doesn't have that prolem.....10:48
deFryskLaserLine, good for you10:48
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Cesarindefrysk: im not that dumb, I did it already, and sends me to a webpage for breezy wich needs password to download the SUN's10:49
deFryskCesarin, did what ?10:49
apokryphosLaserLine: That's a bug, I know. Flash sites load better in 1.5beta1 it seems10:49
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CesarindeFrysk,  used ubotu10:49
CarlKwhere is /dev/usb in breezy?10:49
LaserLineapokryphos Thanks for the answer.10:49
apokryphosCarlK: /dev/sda10:49
deFryskCesarin, paswd where ?10:50
Cesarindefrysk : http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ <-- here10:50
CarlKapokryphos, what about for printers?10:50
Cesarinit asks when downloading the sun's java10:50
deFryskCesarin, then dont use it10:50
Cesarin....10:50
Cesarinhow helpful10:50
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deFryskwell I've never seen any pasword , an agreemant at most10:51
apokryphosCarlK: what 'bout them, sorry?10:51
war-totemanyone know of an alternate place to get the ubuntu guide?10:51
war-totemits seems to be down10:51
Cesarinwell that site says clearly " if you need a password, contact me on irc"10:51
Cesarinbut it doesnt say when, or to who :P10:51
deFryskwar-totem, happy to hear that10:51
apokryphosCarlK: oh, what's their entry in /dev.. hm, not sure.10:51
Cesarinwhen = where10:51
Cesarinwar-totem, wiki's ?10:51
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war-totemill check10:52
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CesarinI heard the unoficial guide of ubuntu went down because it was too... old10:52
deFryskwar-totem, ubuntuguide is a poor resource10:52
Cesarinas in outdated10:52
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nybbleyes, it is.....10:52
elad`How do I make my refresh rate 100Hz?10:52
CarlKapokryphos, i just hooked up a hp 812c, and the "props" says "status: printer not connected" and yet lsusb shows Bus 001 Device 005: ID 03f0:0304 Hewlett-Packard DeskJet 810c/812c10:52
war-totemdeFrysk, really?10:52
deFrysk!ubuntuguide10:52
ubotu[ubuntuguide]  out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.10:52
war-totemdeFrysk, what would you recommend10:52
Seveasubuntuguide is not just outdated, it's crap :)10:52
war-totem!ubuntuguide10:52
deFryskwar-totem, even ubotu agrees with me10:52
war-totemdeFrysk, cant argue with the bot10:53
deFryskwar-totem, the wiki10:53
deFryskwar-totem, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation is your bible10:53
Cesarinelad`: had the same problem, I had to edit the xorg conf filemanually10:53
war-totemdeFrysk, tx m810:54
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AlexanROhow do you change hostname? i changed it and set and env variable old name is sticky10:54
Zel[LAN] hehe, I came here only to find what my current IP is at home!10:54
emileZel[LAN] : ifconfig10:55
test34Zel[LAN] , http://whatismyip.com10:55
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sartekhi10:56
elad`Problem solved.10:56
elad`Wait, no, sorry.10:56
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bipolargnucash is not a supported app under ubuntu, is it.....10:56
CarlKhow do I tell what usb port a printer is connected to?  (or.. duh... how do I add a usb printer?)10:56
elad`Cesarin, ok, where is it, and how should it be edited?10:56
tonkarZel[LAN] : www.whatismyip.org10:56
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JacksparrowHi i get this problem after installing ubuntu: it hangs by "starting hotplug subsystem..."10:57
deFryskbipolar, it is in the repos10:57
Jacksparrowcan anybody help10:57
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test34Zel[LAN] , or just type "ip" in firefox address bar10:57
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elad`Another question - how do I log into another user, without quiting this one, under GNOME?10:57
sarteki installed on my comp ubuntu 5.0.4 and i cant install some packages from the net, i run 'apt-get update' aafter that 'apt get insatll valknut' but dont was in the database some help plz10:58
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Seveasappplications -> system tools -> new login as different user10:58
Zel[LAN] emile, test34 but I am not at home, which is why I didn't know my IP10:58
Seveas!valknut10:58
ubotuI heard valknut is a Direct Connect client, in Ubuntu the package containing Valknut is dcgui-qt10:58
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ompaulbipolar - universe (it is on breezy and would think it was on hoary)10:58
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Jacksparrow Hi i get this problem after installing ubuntu: it hangs by "starting hotplug subsystem..."10:58
test34Zel[LAN] , this website tells you your IP..10:59
bipolarumpaul, deFrysk, yes, but it doesn't have the little ubuntu icon next to it in synaptic.10:59
jmarkis it possible to install ubuntu on a 1.2g hard drive?10:59
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Seveasnot the default setup10:59
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deFryskbipolar, thats because its not in main10:59
bipolarjmark, thats really cutting it close.10:59
ErikHKHow can I change that default brown theme to something more white/grey? :)10:59
Zel[LAN] test34, I am at an internet cafe, I needed my home IP10:59
deFryskbipolar, should be safe to use tho10:59
sartek"could not find package dcgui-gt'10:59
Seveas!themes10:59
ubotuextra, extra, read all about it, themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com10:59
jmarkI have an old laptop that only has 1.2g of space10:59
Seveassartek, qt not gt10:59
sartekg=q10:59
bipolardeFrysk, I've got it installed, but there is a problem with it. It won't import qfx files.10:59
sartekyes11:00
Seveasthen enable universe/multiverse11:00
zeke1 Hi i get this problem after installing ubuntu: it hangs by "starting hotplug subsystem..."11:00
deFryskbipolar, not sure about that , sorry11:00
bipolardeFrysk, looks like it's not calling libofx correctly.11:00
sarteki know11:00
zeke1can anybody help me please11:00
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elad`Seveas, how do I switch between them afterwards?11:00
ThePyromaniachas anyone upgraded to breezy?11:00
test34zeke1, do you need hotplug ?11:00
dupuy9302salut les potes11:00
sartekSeveas help me11:00
Seveaselad`, <alt><f7>   <alt><f8>11:00
zeke1test34: i dont know do I?11:01
dupuy9302qqun qui parle franAIS???11:01
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deFrysk!fr11:01
bipolardeFrysk, also, the one in universe is 2 versions old.11:01
ubotuhmm... fr is Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais11:01
Seveas!tell sartek about sources11:01
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elad`Is there a limit to the number of such logins?11:01
test34dupuy9302, yes11:01
emilezeke1: i had this once with an external usb disk connected, unplugging and rebooting solved problem11:01
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dupuy9302SALUT TEST11:01
sartekthx11:01
zeke1emile: unplugging???11:01
zeke1how i do that11:01
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deFryskerr pull the plug ?11:02
zeke1cause i dont have usb hd11:02
dupuy9302bon les gars j'ai un probleme qui peut m'aider???11:02
test34zeke1, do you need to plug devices (usb for example) while the computer is running ?11:02
Seveas!fr11:02
ubotufr is, like, Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais11:02
zeke1test34: erm no11:02
deFryskfrance is waking up hehe11:02
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phpgekAnyone know how to get Ubuntu to boot up into prompt - and not in recovery or single mode... :( Installed it in "server" option in the boot option... but the login screen never appears... no X on the server11:03
Seveaselad`, well, your system can handle a few, but you'll need quite a bit of memory to sustain more..11:03
dupuy9302good night!!!!11:03
zeke1test34: i dont have any usb devices for start up11:03
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test34zeke1, then you could disable it11:03
Seveasphpgek, 'server' mode installs no gui.11:03
bipolaris there a way to tell who has responsibility for a package in ubuntu the way it is in debian?11:03
ThePyromaniacif i install gcc 4 and gcc-4-base i can remove gcc and older versions, right?11:03
zeke1test34: ok so how do i disable hotplug?11:03
phpgekSeveas... yes - but it doesnt seems to work11:03
Cesarin!ntfs11:03
ubotuntfs is probably the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.11:03
elad`Fuck - my DNS preferences were just reset, for no apparent reason!11:03
phpgekSeveas it hangs when i boot up :( the last message is kground11:03
phpgekand nothing else11:03
phpgekbot SSH, Apache etc. is starting up11:04
phpgeknothing unusual in /var/log/messages11:04
Seveaselad`, if you use dhcp, that controls /etc/resolv.conf too11:04
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Seveasand watch your language11:04
zeke1test34: i have already installed everything and cant find an option to disabel hotplug...so how do i do it11:04
ompaulelad`, terminals - you can set as many of them as you want check out /etc/inittab11:04
elad`Seveas, what does that mean I should change?11:04
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ThePyromaniacguys? it says i must remove shedloads of programs. should i ignore synaptic and remove old gcc's?11:04
Seveasphpgek, can you be a bit more specific about the problem, I'm afraid I don't fully understand you11:04
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roberto_hi all11:05
Seveaselad`, either teach dhclient not to request dns servers or use a static IP :)11:05
test34zekel, update-rc.d -f hotplug remove11:05
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roberto_jate a fa ncule11:05
ThePyromaniachello? ^^11:05
phpgekSeveas well.. when i boot up everything seems fine... it starts up everything i added to rc.d ... but then it hangs... there never appears a login prompt11:05
zeke1but how do i do that if i cant even boot into a treminal11:05
roberto_a chi?11:05
Seveasroberto_, english in here please...11:05
phpgekSeveas i tried to remove almost everything from rcX.d but it doesnt seems to work11:06
Seveasphpgek, have you tried switching to a different VT? This may be caused by usplash11:06
test34zeke1, you could try to boot with the recovery kernel option at startup ?11:06
roberto_napoletano is an international allrounder language11:06
ThePyromaniacsomebody must know11:06
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zeke1test34: i did that as well and it still wants to load hotplug11:06
phpgekSeveas humm nope - how do i do that ;)11:06
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SeveasThePyromaniac, whot does it tell you to remove?11:06
Seveasphpgek, <alt><f2>11:06
Seveasand switch back to VT1 with <alt><F1>11:07
roberto_by11:07
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elad`Seveas, how do I teach dhclient that?11:07
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phpgekSeveas ... humm i will try :) just need to boot the server up again :)11:07
ThePyromaniacwell if i try and remove gcc-3.4 it says remove EVERYTHING11:07
ThePyromaniacall random game packages and apps i have11:07
zeke1test34: cant i access ubuntu with explore2fs and change some file to disable it11:07
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Seveaselad`, /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf -- remove domain-name-servers from the request line and add a prepend: for your DNS (it has an example)11:08
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thinmani have wrt54g wireless card with dell latitude laptop.  How do i config on ubuntu 5.10 ? thanks11:08
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test34zeke1, can you delete files with explore2fs ?11:08
SeveasThePyromaniac, can you please paste the complete output on the pastebin11:08
zeke1test34: im not sure maybe?11:08
ThePyromaniacmy mistake seveas, 3.3-base wants everything gone, 3.4-base wants only ubuntu-gnome and firefox and 3.3 wants only gcc11:08
ThePyromaniacwell its in synaptic11:08
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ompaulThePyromaniac, please define everything - does it name one package or lots of packages pastes in paste.ubuntulinux.nl11:09
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SeveasThePyromaniac, try with apt-get11:09
ThePyromaniachow do i remove in apt-get? :$11:09
ThePyromaniaclemme get, apt-get remove?11:09
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deFryskThePyromaniac, apt-get remove <blah>11:09
zeke1test34: no dont look like it11:09
ThePyromaniacheh, thanks11:09
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deFryskThePyromaniac, first turn off synaptic11:09
test34zeke1, if you can, delete the hotplug file in /etc/rc2.d/11:10
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thinmani have wrt54g wireless card with dell latitude laptop.  How do i config on ubuntu 5.10 ? thanks11:10
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ompaulThePyromaniac, to discover apt-get quickly just run apt-get on the command line - do not forget sudo :)11:10
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bipolarthinman, is it a 2200 or 2300?11:10
test34zekel, maybe you can boot with the CD11:10
ThePyromaniacindeed ompaul, i am doing this11:10
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test34zekel, but I dont know if that will load hotplug too11:10
ThePyromaniacPackage gcc-3.4 is not installed, so not removed11:10
ThePyromaniac0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.11:10
ThePyromaniacsynaptic says it IS installed!11:11
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zeke1test34: i tried that with the live cd and it still loads hotplug11:11
Zel[LAN] how can I send an email from the console with an attachment. Do I need to have a mail server configured in the mail client to do this?11:11
thinmanbipolar: how do i check that ?11:12
ThePyromaniacseveas, defrysk, ompaul apt-get says they arent installed but synaptic says they are. they being many versions of gcc11:12
ThePyromaniacsurely it cant be good having many versions installed. takes up space11:12
bipolarthinman, run lspci and look for the wireless contoler.11:13
zeke1anybody know how to disble hotplug so i can actually boot into linux11:13
test34zeke1, try http://www.it.fht-esslingen.de/~zimmerma/software/ltools.htm11:13
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AlexanROhow do you change hostname? i changed it and set and env variable old name is sticky11:14
zeke1test34: what is that11:14
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test34supposed to be able to write/delete from windows to an ext2 partition..11:14
SeveasThe_Vox, dpkg -l 'gcc*'11:14
SeveasThePyromaniac*11:14
Seveasand paste the output on the pastebin11:14
SeveasAlexanRO, change /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts and reboot11:14
zeke1test34: ok after i instqall them what do i delete11:14
surfdue_heh11:14
ThePyromaniacsorry for this huge post guys...11:14
esac_has anybody had issues with networking in breezy? i brought my laptop to work, plugged in eth0, it picked up a dhcp address. but it takes a LONG time to resolve any names when i ping them, and there is a long pause between packets. the packets themselves come back fast (1-4 ms)11:15
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ThePyromaniacpn  gcc                       <none>                    (no description available)11:15
ThePyromaniacun  gcc-2.95                  <none>                    (no description available)11:15
ThePyromaniacun  gcc-3.2                   <none>                    (no description available)11:15
ThePyromaniacpn  gcc-3.3                   <none>                    (no description available)11:15
ThePyromaniacii  gcc-3.3-base              3.3.5-8ubuntu2            The GNU Compiler Collection (base package)11:15
ThePyromaniacun  gcc-3.3-doc               <none>                    (no description available)11:15
surfdue_ubuntu rules:)11:15
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SeveasThePyromaniac, FOOL11:15
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test34zekel, file in /etc/rc2.d that has hotplug in the file name, there should be one11:15
Seveasi said: on the pastebin11:15
surfdue_who knows anything about the new breezy graphical installer?11:15
thinmanbipolar: BCM4 802.11.b/g wireless LAN controller (rev 02)11:15
ompaul!tell ThePyromaniac about pastebin11:15
elad`Seveas, I had to reconnect. What did you say I should do to stop this problem from recurring?11:15
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bipolarSeveas, do you have a script that bans automaticly?11:15
Seveasbipolar, no11:15
bipolarthinman, hmmm.... I don't know about that one.11:15
SeveasI anticipated it :)11:15
shawarmasurfdue_: There's a graphical installer? Neat.11:15
bipolarSeveas, heh... you're quick then11:15
surfdue_yea?11:16
AlexanROSeveas: ty =)11:16
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surfdue_i swear thats what i read in the notes a while ago11:16
surfdue_lol11:16
zeke1test34: no not in rc2.d but there is one in rc6.d11:16
thinmanbipolar: thanks11:16
QMarioHello surfdue_!!! :)11:16
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surfdue_HI!11:16
zeke1test34: and rcS.d11:16
QMarioHello bob2 and Seveas!!! :)11:16
ompaulbipolar, he would not be Seveas if he did not know these things :)11:16
surfdue_who are you?11:16
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Seveasoh no QMario is back11:16
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surfdue_lol11:16
Seveas;11:16
Seveas;)11:16
zeke1test34: and rc0.d11:16
test34zeke1, I think you can safely delete them11:16
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zeke1test34: all of them11:17
test34zekel yes11:17
bipolarthinman, it might already be set up. what does iwconfig tell you?11:17
thinmananyone knows any links how to set up wireless card ?11:17
QMarioIs it a smart idea to have more than one gcc or g++ compilers on your system?11:17
Seveas!wifi11:17
ubotuwifi is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto11:17
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SeveasQMario, it's not a bad idea. It's only smart if you need them though :)11:17
elad`# makes the entire line a comment. What makes just a single word?11:17
QMario!C++11:17
ompaulQMario, that is like is a string long11:18
bipolarQMario, it works fine. I have 3. one one is default though. you set the default with a symlink.11:18
test34zekel, and then try to reboot;)11:18
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thinmanbipolar: it does not seem like it11:18
Seveas!c++11:18
QMarioBipolar, what is a symlink?11:18
QMarioWhere is Ubotu?11:18
QMario!Botsnack11:18
Seveasin here11:18
ubotuthanks qmario :)11:18
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bipolarQMario, aka, a soft link.11:18
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Seveaswe found a bug/misfeature :)11:18
elad`Seveas, I'll comment out "domain-name-servers" like you told me to (but how? I don't want to delete it). What was that other thing about prepend?11:18
QMarioBipolor, how would I do that?11:18
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QMarios/Bipolor/bipolar11:19
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Seveaselad`, you need to delete it11:19
neighborleeSeveas, oh really?..thats wonderful11:19
bipolarQMario, try 'man ln'11:19
Seveasand there is an example prepend: line just above it11:19
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elad`The "prepend"?11:19
elad`What does prepend mean?11:19
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Seveaselad`, if you paste your dhclient.conf on the pastebin I can give better hints11:19
bipolarQMario, a link is kinda like a windows shortcut, but on steroids11:19
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ompaulelad`, in front of a main statement11:20
esac_elad`: pend before instead of pend after :)11:20
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bipolarI gotta go guys. later11:20
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ThePyromaniac_hey im back ^^11:20
ompaulesac_, so what is depend? :-)11:20
ThePyromaniac_at least now i know about pastebin :D11:21
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phpgeekSeveas you seems to know everything... why do i get failed on "Settings general console font"11:21
phpgeekor something like that :D11:21
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ompaulphpgeek, for values of $everything11:21
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Seveasphpgeek, hoary/breezy?11:22
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phpgeekSeveas breezy11:22
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Seveasphpgeek, update it complete;y with ubuntu-desktop installed11:22
Cesarinesac_: by any chance, what files do I have to get to install the flash plugins?11:22
SeveasI had that same error last week11:22
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Cesarinthe instructions of the bot are a bit confusing11:23
SeveasCesarin, flashplayer-mozilla11:23
elad`http://pastebin.com/37038811:23
elad`Seveas,11:23
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Cesarinseveas: not for firefox?11:23
SeveasCesarin, that IS for firefox :)11:23
phpgeekSeveas okay :) i will do... the ALT+F2 worked... thanks i worked with that the whole day... lol11:23
Cesarinseveas: yeah but how I can install it?11:23
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test34when I try to uninstall some programs, it tells me it needs to uninstall ubuntu-desktop too ? will ubuntu stop working right after that ?11:23
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test34(with synaptic)11:23
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phpgeekAnyway i dont want desktop :(11:24
SeveasCesarin, apt-get installs it11:24
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Seveaselad`, http://pastebin.com/37039011:24
Cesarinso then apt-get flashplayer-mozilla ?11:24
mizmizouzzzz11:24
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jbrouhardok11:24
Seveasapt-get install flashplayer-mozilla11:24
mizmizouslt11:24
jbrouhardwhat's the default root password in ubuntu ?11:25
Seveashave multiverse enabled11:25
Seveas!tell jbrouhard about root11:25
Cesarink thanks11:25
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elad`Seveas, thanks a bunch. Also - I have two DNS servers. What's the syntax for putting them both in there?11:25
jbrouhardThanks11:25
Cesarinwill do it once I finish updating my breezy11:25
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Seveaselad`, i *though* prepend domain-name-servers: server1,server2;11:25
seliniumHI guys, I  have lm-sensors in my init.d is this left over from a ill advised install of xsensors? :)11:25
seliniumHI Seveas11:25
TwistedFirestartso who is upgrading to breezy now then? ^^11:25
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SeveasTwistedFirestart, I upgraded a week ago11:26
CesarinTwistedFirestart, sadly I did ;P11:26
Seveasbreezy is nice11:26
TwistedFirestartgood on you guys, i tried a little while back with colony 311:26
TwistedFirestartwould you say its more stable now?11:26
Seveasdennis@blackbird $ apt-file search /etc/init.d/lm-sensors11:26
Seveaslm-sensors: etc/init.d/lm-sensors11:26
Cesarinbtw, any tips to enable my mouse whell ? its a micro$oft intellimouse explorer11:26
Seveas^-- selinium11:27
SeveasCesarin, you need to tweek your xorg.conf11:27
Seveasthe forums have some explanations about it11:27
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Cesarinseveas: will try that later thank you11:27
elad`thought?11:27
TwistedFirestartlooks like i need a name change11:27
seliniumSeveas: yes i know, is this from the xsensors that i uninstalled? I am going to chmod -x it so it doesn't start. BUt i wanted to make sure that it was from xsensors.11:28
Seveasit's not11:28
Seveasit's from lm-sensors11:28
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Cesarinweird11:29
seliniumSeveas: WHat does lm-sensors do?11:29
Seveasit's the backend for xsensors ;)11:29
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Cesarin"cannot find the package flashplayer-mozilla"11:29
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seliniumSeveas: Aaaarrrgh! ty :) I will stich it off then!11:29
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seliniumswitch*11:30
Seveasyou can apt-get purge lm-sensors too :)11:30
elad`Seveas, as soon as I finished editing, the bug struck again.11:30
Seveasor run debfoster regularly to keep your system clean11:30
Hoxzercan I somehow setup any software to total full screen (no bars) in gnome?11:30
sarteki cant set the resolution (1024x768) in my ubuntu help me11:30
Drauconq time11:30
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AngryParsleysartek: did you try going to system -> preferences -> screen resolution?11:31
sartekyes11:31
Seveaselad`, you need to restart the networking for it to become effective (easiest way: reboot or /etc/init.d/networking restart, you'll lose your net connection)11:31
boxerboy29is there an easy way to get realplayer plug in for mozilla without going to their plugins?11:31
AngryParsleyand what happened?11:31
Seveas!tell sartek about resolution11:31
SeveasHoxzer, you can remove the bars :)11:31
sartekbut only 800x600 was the highest11:31
ginooYES11:31
ginooI LOVE BREEZY11:31
Cesarinseveas:  Got an error installing the mozilla thingie11:31
Cesarin"cannot find the package flashplayer-mozilla" <---11:31
ginoomy wireless card is autodetected now11:31
seliniumSeveas, Are you using a different version of apt-get? THere is no purge...11:31
HoxzerSeveas: I cant remove the main bar11:31
ginooI LOVE ALL OF YOU11:31
SeveasCesarin, enable multiverse11:31
Seveas!tell Cesarin about sources11:32
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AngryParsleyginoo: heh, I have some random USB wifi card sitting around11:32
AngryParsleyI think I'll hook it up and see what happens11:32
elad`I did the restart thing, and I don't seem to have lost the connection.11:32
Christophe971ubuntuking> don't ask anyhting11:32
Seveasselinium, excuse me, it's apt-get remove --purge (or aptitude purge)11:32
ginooAngryParsley: do it!11:32
Christophe971anything*11:32
Stormx2Hey11:32
Hoxzerthat one what is on bottom as default11:32
elad`The DNS tab did get updated though, and this time, it got updated right. Thanks, Seveas11:32
AngryParsleyok....11:32
Stormx2does anyone have any idea of how to set up a creative webcam on ubuntu?11:32
SeveasChristophe971, ?11:32
elad`Next stop, fixing my refresh rate.11:33
Stormx2!webcam11:33
ubotuI heard webcam is Support for webcams with messenger-like programs will be available in the next version of amsn (already in the CVS version) and with gaim-vv, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47841 and GQcam http://cse.unl.edu/~cluening/gqcam/11:33
Christophe971don't mind ;)11:33
Cesarinok, doing that11:33
Cesarinadding the multiniverse11:33
SeveasHoxzer, killall gnome-panel will do it ;)11:33
AngryParsleyoh my god, it loaded the proper modules11:33
ubuntukinghello everyone11:33
AngryParsleynow I just need to set it up11:33
HoxzerSeveas: cool11:33
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elad`How should I install radeon drivers? Manually, or apt-get them somehow?11:33
Christophe971Seveas> he's the king, i guess he already knows everythin' about ubuntu11:33
HoxzerSeveas: can I somehow remove it totaly?11:33
AngryParsleyI didn't even know a prism2_usb module existed11:33
Seveas!tell elad` about ati11:33
Hoxzeror make it not to start when xserver starts11:33
SeveasChristophe971, ;)11:33
SeveasHoxzer, it's somewhere in /etc/Xsession.d11:34
Cesarinnope seveas.. still cant find it11:34
boxerboy29if i download the realplayer installer from synaptic do i open the download with that?11:34
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HoxzerSeveas: thx just studying ubuntu11:34
funkyHatdoes someone have a server where i can upload a patched opera deb to? my hosting company won't allow .deb downloads, and my internet connection is too slow to host it locally :P11:34
AngryParsleyhaha, ifconfig wlan0 actually shows a device11:34
elad`I'm on Hoary, not Warty (I'm on 5.04)11:34
SeveasCesarin, did you do an apt-get update after editing sources.list?11:34
elad`oh, sorry11:34
elad`scrolling down11:34
SeveasfunkyHat, what's the patch?11:34
ThePyromaniacthats a bummer, with 3rd part repositories, should i leave them pointing to hoary?11:34
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funkyHatchanged the control file so that it installs on breezy11:35
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ginooAngryParsley: Praise the Lord!11:35
ThePyromaniacbecause if i update the third party ones to breezy they get a 40411:35
Cesarinlet me do it11:35
Cesarinand seveas: im doing everything under X11:35
AngryParsleyginoo: now the problem is my stupidity11:35
SeveasfunkyHat, opera.deb installed on my breezy system just fine.. :)11:35
Cesarinusing breezy's synaptic11:35
AngryParsleyI have no clue how to configure a wireless card11:35
AngryParsleyI just bought this thing for $411:35
funkyHatSeveas, 8.5?11:35
ginooAngryParsley: Using ubuntu11:35
SeveasCesarin, in that case hit the reload button in synaptic :)11:35
ubuntu111hello this is moparfan90. im on ubuntu lve CD. if i do a server install and i want  fluxbox what else do i need to install?11:35
AngryParsleyginoo: no, I never got the thing working in windows either11:35
ginoohaha11:36
ginooreally11:36
ompaulAngryParsley, is it a wavelan bronze?11:36
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CesarinSeveas,  DID :P11:36
SeveasfunkyHat, the one from the round of free licenses from a few weeks ago11:36
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AngryParsleyompaul: it's a syntax 400 usb11:36
AngryParsleywhatever that means11:36
funkyHatSeveas, that's not the one i'm talking about :)11:36
ginoonow the thing im wondering is11:36
Seveask :)11:36
AngryParsleyerr syntax USB-40011:36
ompaulAngryParsley, emm no idea :)11:36
ubuntukingwhen i try to install opera i get a libqt dependency error11:36
Seveassubmit a bug to the opera devs so they can fix it ;)11:36
ginoowhy am i getting 85% signal strength when im in the same room about 10 feet away from the router11:36
AngryParsleyompaul: yeah, I just got it for the cost of tax thanks to a rebate11:36
ubuntu111seveas, hello. i want to install ubunut but with fluxbox and not gnome. how would i o this?11:37
ginooWITH an external 6dbi antenna11:37
Seveas(mind you: I have a deb of nxclient where I hexedited the program to get rid of a bug ;))11:37
seliniumDid you know that ubuntu has a full minutes worth of sleep during boot (on my ststem anyway) grep -r sleep /etc/init.d11:37
Seveasubuntu111, install with 'server' optioin and later install the x-window-system-core and fluxbox packages11:37
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AngryParsleyginoo: the only OS I got this wifi card working in was OSX11:38
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Seveasubuntuking, probably that's the error funkyHat just solved :)11:38
AngryParsleyI just used it for wardriving last summer11:38
ubuntu111i was doing this with debian and got alot of error with missing packages and undeted mouse will i get those errors with ubunut?11:38
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funkyHatyes it is11:38
Seveasubuntu111, It worked fine on a system of mine...11:38
funkyHatubuntuking, i'm looking for somewhere to upload the patched deb11:38
sylvanHow do I add items to the desktop right-click menu?11:39
SeveasfunkyHat, how big is it?11:39
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funkyHat4MB11:39
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ubuntu111and all you instled was x-windows-server and fluxbox? thats all no other packages?11:39
malverian[work] Are there any mirrors for ubuntuguide.org ?11:39
SeveasfunkyHat, I can put it on my repo11:39
funkyHatok11:39
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funkyHatdcc send?11:39
Seveaswon't work11:39
Seveashang on a sec11:39
funkyHatok11:39
harlekinhallo11:39
Cesarinseveas: still cant find it *sobs*11:39
ompaul!tell malverian[work]  about faq11:40
cristianquein me puede alludar a instalar el msn en mi ubuntu11:40
ubuntu111seveas,  and all you instled was x-windows-server and fluxbox? thats all no other packages?11:40
Cesarindid a search on synaptic too, and it doesnt show anything like "flashplayer" or similars11:40
SUICIDE_HIIIIIIIIIIIIII11:40
harlekindo anybody know when the new release of ubuntu is out11:40
ubuntukingwho solved the error and how11:40
SUICIDE_How are u?11:40
seliniumharlekin, 13th Oct11:40
ThePyromaniacwow, an extra 442MB's for breezy!11:41
ubuntu111seveas, nevermind ill just use gnome then install flux box it easier11:41
sylvanI may be stupid but I've looked around in every little text file I could find in all the (what I thought) relevant folders (.gconf, .gnome2 etc.) but I just can't find out where the items for the desktop right-click menu reside. Anyone know?11:41
ThePyromaniacis there any tool to remove unused packages? or would that be impossible as nobody can know what is or is not being used?11:41
boxerboy29harlekin: october 13th11:41
Seveasubuntu111, it's easier indeed ;)11:41
harlekinok11:41
harlekinthx11:41
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SeveasThePyromaniac, debfoster!11:42
harlekinhave anyone tested the preview11:42
Seveasharlekin, breezy already rocks11:42
ubuntu111whats on breezze thats different from hoary?11:42
ThePyromaniacbrilliant, thanks again man11:42
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fradsbonsoir11:42
zeke1whatis the default root password for ubuntu after installation11:42
Seveasubuntu111, quite a bit, most notably for end-users is gnome 2.1211:42
Seveas!tell zeke1 about root11:42
ubuntu111you set one11:42
ompaulzeke1, there is none11:42
ubuntu111oo11:42
ubuntu111ok11:42
Stormx2Hey11:42
Seveasubuntu111, no, the ubuntu installer does not set one ;)11:43
ompaul!tell zeke1 about root11:43
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ubuntu111can i fit it on a 700mb CD??11:43
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zeke1ompaul: thats weird cause when i enter nothing i still cant log in11:43
Stormx2does anyone know how to get a creative webcam as a video4linux device? :(11:43
ompaul!tell ubuntu111  about root11:43
fradsis there any channel in french for ubuntu on this server?11:43
Seveasthe ubuntu iso fits even on a 650mb cd11:43
harlekinare you shure11:43
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Seveas#ubuntu-fr11:43
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fradsthanks11:43
ubuntukingseveas what about that patched opera11:43
sylvannobody knows?11:43
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harlekinshuld i download it11:43
harlekin?11:43
Seveasubuntuking, funkyHat and I are working on it11:43
ubuntu111when you install ubuntu dont you pick a root password?11:43
harlekinhm11:44
ompaulzeke1, you set a username and password, you log in as that user then you use sudo as shown on the page that ubotu explains11:44
Seveasubuntu111, no11:44
Seveasall sudo :)11:44
ubuntukingk11:44
ubuntu111really wehn i installed i did i think11:44
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ubuntu111it was the same pw as my login11:44
ompaulubuntu111, read the page ubotu sent you11:44
ubuntu111oo11:44
Stormx2couldn't have >.<11:44
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zeke1ompaul: ok cause my x server wont start and im stuck in just normal terminal login11:44
elad_Seveas,  "The resolution has changed now that I've logged in again after installing the driver, but now, when I try to change the resolution back, I get "Error: The X server does not support the XRandR extension. Runtime resolution changes to the display size are not available."11:44
CesarinI think ill ask later, since seveas is getting flooded by help reqwuests :P11:44
ompaulzeke1, ahh11:44
Stormx2Creative webcam in V4L? Anyone?11:44
harlekincu11:45
ubuntu111you cant enable root?11:45
ompaulzeke1, u using breezy?11:45
Air2kHi. what is the best way to install the package w32codecs? the repository ubuntu-backports doesn't contain that package anymore.11:45
ompaulubuntu111,  you don't need to so you don't want to11:45
elad_Seveas, have I done something wrong, or is it a known bug, or... what?11:45
Stormx2:-(11:45
othernoobcould a firmware update of a dvd burner done in windows cause speed problems in linux?11:45
zeke1ompaul: and i get an error saying "Fatal error" no screens found...how would i fix that11:45
seliniumHas any one here tried InitNG for quicker boots? http://initng.thinktux.net11:45
Seveaselad_, hrm, I'm no X expert sorry, but afaik you did nothing wrong and are simply missing something11:45
Cesarin!mouse11:45
ubotuCesarin: Do they come in packets of five?11:45
zeke1amp: breezy???11:45
Seveasubuntu111, sure you can, but it's not needed :)11:46
elad_Missing something?11:46
zeke1ompaul: breezy?11:46
Cesarinelad_, yeah, instructions of how to modify the xoom.conf file :P11:46
ubuntu111im not new to linux i kinda know my way around ubuntu i just alway though you can become root.lol11:46
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Seveasselinium, that's an ongoing discussion, basically the current version of initng is on crack and has some serious faws11:46
Seveasflaws*11:46
Milk_howdy.. can someone help me get twinview setup?11:46
ompaulzeke1, I will get you the info you need please wait a moment11:46
Seveasubuntu111, 'sudo -i' and you're root11:46
ubuntu111im moparfan90    im runnning on ubuntu  live CD11:46
Seveasroot just has no password11:46
elad_xoom.conf?11:47
ubuntu111ooo11:47
Seveasubuntu111, ah :)11:47
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elad_This resolution is killing me.11:47
ThePyromaniacdarn, when compiling my lame C++ it says iostream not found. I know this is a very important library to have!11:47
ThePyromaniacwhy is this happening?11:47
ubuntu111everyone here should remember me from all my stupit questions ;011:47
Cesarinelad_ forget it, it seems you dont know too :P11:47
ubuntu111;)11:47
Stormx2Creative webcam as a V4L device... does anyone know how?!11:47
SeveasThePyromaniac, put your code on the bin11:47
test34zeke1, did it work11:47
seliniumSeveas: Cheers, Is there any shavings i can make from the sleeps in init.d ? THere is a minutes worth on my machine.11:48
elad_Ech. What do I do about it now?11:48
ubuntu111ok going to install ubuntu11:48
zeke1i get an Fatal error" no scrteens found when x tries to load....how do i fix this11:48
ubuntu111bbl11:48
Seveasselinium, if there are sleeps in init.d they have a reason :)11:48
zeke1i get an Fatal error" no scrteens found when x tries to load....how do i fix this11:48
Seveaszeke1, fix your xorg.xonf :)11:48
boxerboy29ok heres what i got i downloaded realplayer10gold.bin now how do i instll it?11:48
Seveasconf*11:48
zeke1screens*11:48
Seveas!real11:48
Stormx2:-( Thanks for the no-help. I'm off to bed. Catcha later.11:48
ubotuSeveas: I give up, what is it?11:48
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Cesarinxorg.conf :P11:48
zeke1Seveas: what would i need to change?11:48
Seveasboxerboy29, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:48
Milk_does anyone have experiance with twinview and dual head geforce cards?11:48
seliniumSeveas: keymap.sh sleeps for ten seconds!11:49
Seveaszeke1, dunno, depends on what's missing :)11:49
test34zeke1, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg11:49
Seveasselinium, only if it finds errors :)11:49
kandinskiI am the guy that was installing ubuntu on a 550 mhz celeron with 64MB RAM. Useless. What happens if I decide to upgrade to 192 MB? Is that a good use of 30 euros?11:49
ThePyromaniachttp://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/241911:49
zeke1test34: thanx again man11:49
kandinskithis is an Acer 210T laptop11:49
ompaulzeke1, wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/udev/udev_0.060-1ubuntu12_i386.deb ; sudo dpkg -i udev_0.060-1ubuntu12_i386.deb ;sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart ;sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart :: only if someone in the channel agrees with me :)11:50
test34zeke1, your welcome11:50
ThePyromaniacseveas it is just an example i grabbed from a site showing me the command method of compiling11:50
SeveasThePyromaniac, do you have libstdc++6-dev installed?11:50
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seliniumSeveas: Glad your about! I could tweak my machine to death in your absence! :D11:50
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Seveashehe11:51
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ThePyromaniacseveas i would like to check, but i have breezy downloading ^^ thanks for the suggestion and will try later. you have saved me about 60 times tonight11:51
Seveaswell, tweak all you want, I'm going to hibernate :)11:51
harlekinhallo again11:51
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funkyHatSeveas, how will people be able to access the opera deb from your repo?11:51
funkyHatso i can tell ubotu11:52
harlekinare there many difrences between ubuntu 5.0411:52
harlekinand 5.1011:52
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SeveasfunkyHat, deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas breezy-extras11:52
harlekin?11:52
Seveasharlekin, of course11:52
[LethAL] funkyHat, I'm on that bad bad OS :(11:52
funkyHatthanks :)11:52
Seveasharlekin, wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyGoals - www.gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-1211:52
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harlekinin the new gnome which engine do they chose11:53
harlekin?11:53
harlekingtk11:53
Seveasharlekin, gtk2.811:53
gt500kDoes anybody know of any 3D modeling programs for Ubuntu??11:53
Linnerhey ya'll11:53
harlekinoh11:53
harlekinnice11:53
[LethAL] funkyHat I forgot my wireless drivers and wiped most of my HDD...11:53
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ThePyromaniacgt500k hang on i saw one in my mag11:53
elDuart1gt500k blender11:53
Linneri'm curious... does anyone have a new laptop with integrated wlan using breezy?11:53
gt500kThePyromaniac: ok11:53
seliniumOK then, How about prelinking? anyone tried that? http://crast.us/james/articles/prelink.php11:53
thinmandoes anyone get successed config wrt54g notebook with ubuntu ?11:53
shawarmaLinner: Yes.11:53
ThePyromaniacgt500k VariCAD 2005 looks good :D11:53
SeveasLinner, yes11:53
Linnershawarma: what do you have?11:54
gt500kThePyromaniac cool, is that all by chance11:54
ThePyromaniacgt500k oh, $300 nevermind11:54
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gt500kThePyromaniac lol11:54
shawarmaLinner: Intel Pro Wireless 2200 or something.11:54
ThePyromaniac^^11:54
gt500kThePyromaniac never mind11:54
LinnerSeveas: I saw you earlier.  What kind of setup are you using?11:54
Carlk /msg NickServ IDENTIFY goat11:54
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SeveasLinner, HP/Compaq nc600011:54
seliniumCarlk, Ooops!11:54
Carlkaw dam.. there goes miy nic11:54
SeveasCarlk, you might want to change that password...11:54
Linnershawarma: ok... I'm using a broadcom 802.11b/g11:54
harlekinis there a difference between 5.10 preview and the final release11:54
seliniumlol I think your safe here!11:54
Seveas /msg nickserv set password new_pass11:54
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gt500kThePyromaniac Any more?11:54
LinnerSeveas: ok so we're close I have a V2000Z11:54
shawarmaLinner: Yeah, you're probably going to need ndiswrappers for that one.11:54
harlekinbecause i download the prev. now11:54
SeveasBroadcom is evil11:55
Linnershawarma: oh okay.. so it can be had11:55
Octane2hi all, quick question, every time i do "aptitude dist-upgrade" it tries to install Kopete (which I dont know since i get from svn). How do you stop this?11:55
thinmanany tips for setting up wireless card please ?11:55
LinnerSeveas: That 's what I've heard11:55
Carlkgood idea: Your password has been changed to [new_pass]  ;)11:55
Linnerok here's my main problem11:55
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Seveasyou will need ndiswrapper (and a good bit of luck)11:55
shawarmaLinner: Yes. I've done that very nic before with ndiswrapper. It's a bcm4306, right?11:55
h08817thinman: what kind is it11:55
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poningruinstall fest11:55
thinmanwrt54g wireless card11:55
Linnershawarma: i'm not sure... i think so... i wiped windows and I don't have a way to find out11:55
harlekinis there a difference between 5.10 preview and the final release11:55
poningruw00t11:55
harlekin?11:56
Linnerbut here's something I need some help immediately with...11:56
Linnerjust installed breezy11:56
Linnerand when I go to log in i get this:11:56
h08817!wireless11:56
ubotuwireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards11:56
Carlkok, so I am on this breezy box... cuz it was handy when I needed a box.  I just did an apt-get upgrade, and now /dev/input is gone, so X wont start till I ln /dev/,static/dev/input11:56
Linnerfailed to start the x server (your graphical interface) it is likely that it is not set up correctly.11:56
coplandany ops floating around that are alive?11:56
shawarmaLinner: It probably is. It's quite easy to make it work. Check out the ndiswrapper page for more info.11:56
Linnerso I hit yes to diagnose the problem...11:56
h08817thinman: go there11:56
shawarmaLinner: When did you install?11:56
Linnerand then i don't see an error11:56
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Linnershawarma: just now11:57
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Carlkwhich goes away when I reboot.  anyone know how to fix my mesS?11:57
gt500kWhat's the command to look in a file, using the terminal?11:57
Linnerjust a bunch of config stuff11:57
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LinnerHELP! :)11:57
thinmanokes thanks all11:57
h08817thinman: and see what u find11:57
priscillahi to all111:57
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Carlkhelp indeed.11:57
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shawarmaLinner: Ok. Earlier today there were some serious issues, but you really mean just now, then that's not it.11:57
Linnershawarma: nah, i burned the iso a few days ago11:57
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Linnerand just literally installed it on my laptop11:58
ThePyromaniacgtk500k Qcad, cycas, octree11:58
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shawarmaCarlk: Can you run apt-get update/upgrade from a prompt?11:58
Linnerso now i've got x server is now disabled11:58
Seveasok, who needed opera on breezy?11:58
coplandMy friends current ip has been apparently banned from #ubuntu and he has never been in here, is there some way we could fix that11:58
Linnerrestart gdm when it is configured correctly11:58
Linnernow I"m back to terminal11:58
funkyHat[LethAL] , how on earth do you manage it?11:58
Linnerwhat can i do to fix this?11:58
Seveascopland, what's his nick?11:58
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SeveasLinner, breezy?11:59
LinnerSeveas: yeah11:59
Linner5.1011:59
priscillai've got a question. can I boot a window$ on a logical partition?11:59
thinmanUbuntu does not support for wireless-G notebook adapter 2.4 GHZ :)11:59
shawarmaLinner: Check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:59
othernoobcould a firmware update of a dvd burner done in windows cause speed problems in linux?11:59
Linnerok11:59
SeveasLinner, run an apt-get upgrade, only the very last udev is correct11:59
h08817thinman: then does breezy?11:59
priscillaI've got grub11:59
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Seveasthe update was today around 15:00 UTC11:59
shawarmaSeveas: He JUSt installed it, so that's not it..11:59

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