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| shaga | good morning Jane | 08:32 |
| shaga | time for me to get some coffee, I'm draining here at work already | 08:33 |
| JaneW | hi | 08:44 |
| === JaneW is sipping on first cup of the day too... | ||
| jsgotangco | hey JaneW | 08:45 |
| jsgotangco | i already had 4 cups | 08:45 |
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| JaneW | jsgotangco: heh, but you have a 9 hr lead on me ;) | 08:50 |
| jsgotangco | im actually tired | 08:52 |
| shaga | usually I would drink already 1-1.5liters of coffee already but I slept for too long and didn't have time for it.. :/ | 08:53 |
| shaga | gmail notifier doesn't recognize my userid/passwd. and I'm more than definetly sure I've typed them correctly. I tried even with @gmail.com in the end of the userid.. | 09:00 |
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| jsgotangco | ogra i see khelpcenter now! | 12:07 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 12:07 |
| ogra | :) | 12:07 |
| jsgotangco | are you in agreement that edubuntu workstation looks more solid than ubuntu | 12:08 |
| ogra | lol, | 12:09 |
| ogra | its the same... | 12:09 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 12:09 |
| jsgotangco | maybe i just like the look more | 12:09 |
| jsgotangco | :) | 12:09 |
| ogra | thanks :) | 12:09 |
| shaga | jsgotangco: I couldn't agree more ;) | 12:11 |
| ogra | WOW | 12:13 |
| ogra | i got a mail from the club of rome thinktank leader | 12:13 |
| jsgotangco | football club? | 12:13 |
| ogra | they want to distribute a edubuntu DVD with their documents... | 12:14 |
| jsgotangco | WOW | 12:14 |
| ogra | www.clubofrome.org | 12:14 |
| jsgotangco | ogra, i got to talk with the faculty of http://www.dls-csb.edu.ph/ and said they will use edubuntu for their desktops and one of their labs | 12:15 |
| jsgotangco | after they saw my laptop | 12:15 |
| ogra | wow | 12:15 |
| jsgotangco | they even want me to train them | 12:15 |
| ogra | cool | 12:15 |
| jsgotangco | ogra, congrats :) | 12:17 |
| === jsgotangco still wants edubuntu girl as default background though | ||
| ogra | heh | 12:18 |
| jsgotangco | ogra, it just fits the gartoon icon set | 12:19 |
| ogra | if i can make space, i'll add some additional wallpapers | 12:19 |
| ogra | but i you look at the ppc build you will se that it exploded tonight | 12:19 |
| ogra | 704MB :/ | 12:19 |
| jsgotangco | oh my | 12:19 |
| jsgotangco | what's the difference that its bigger? | 12:20 |
| ogra | so i have either to drop something common or just to ignore it and tell ppc users to use the DVD | 12:20 |
| shaga | I have 'make' in my hilight-list coz it's my nickname(often used for markus 'english version would be 'marcus' I think).. do you have any idea how many times it hilights me during a one day? :D | 12:20 |
| shaga | time for a cig, brb I quess | 12:21 |
| Yagisan | or use 750MB cds | 12:25 |
| JaneW | ogra: what do you think of that rome e-mail? I think it sounds great... | 12:48 |
| ogra | nah, normally we only use 650MB i already extended it to the max | 12:48 |
| ogra | JaneW, if it wouldnt be this early, i'd slup champaign now :) | 12:49 |
| shaga | :) | 12:49 |
| jsgotangco | congrats to you both | 12:49 |
| shaga | ditto | 12:49 |
| ogra | especially now that we really *have* a DVD since yesterday.... | 12:49 |
| JaneW | ogra: do we need to ok it with someone (ndz, silbs etc) or can we give the go ahead? | 12:49 |
| ogra | i'd call that perfect timing :) | 12:50 |
| ogra | i want to make sure the DVD is ok... they shouldnt use yesterdays image, there were some changes after it was build tonight... so not before the saturday build ... | 12:51 |
| JaneW | ogra: when do you think they want to press their DVDs? Not before mid Oct prolly, in which case they can use the final release... | 12:52 |
| ogra | yup | 12:52 |
| ogra | but i guess they will want to test it before... | 12:52 |
| JaneW | are you going to respond? or should I? | 12:53 |
| ogra | do it :) youre the manager ;) | 12:53 |
| ogra | probably put mdz or silbs on CC | 12:53 |
| JaneW | ogra: yes that's what I was thinking.. | 12:54 |
| JaneW | will do | 12:54 |
| ogra | :) | 12:54 |
| JaneW | there's a Q about edu LiveCD on u-d (not sure which part of DON'T reply here there guy didn't understand) | 12:55 |
| ogra | heh, i have it open here :) | 12:56 |
| === ..[topic/#edubuntu:JaneW] : The discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu | Mailing list: http://lists.ubuntu.com edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://www.edubuntu.org | First official release due in October 2005. NEXT MEETING: Sept 28 12:00 UTC on #ubuntu-meeting. | Preview Release: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/ | Installation help http://edubuntu.org/EdubuntuTesting | ||
| jsgotangco | sorry if i wasn't that much help lately guys, i have been busy looking for a new job and with the laptop testing and all... | 12:56 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: how's the job hunt going? | 12:57 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, not much help ??? | 12:57 |
| ogra | jsgotangco, you are our curretn promotion manager if i see that right :) | 12:57 |
| jsgotangco | JaneW, pretty flat at the moment, but linuxworld opened up somepossible opportunties | 12:58 |
| ogra | (i'd say running around and getting more users is *very* helpful) | 12:58 |
| jsgotangco | its been fun talking really | 12:58 |
| JaneW | jsgotangco: hopefully the exposure will open some doors for you | 12:59 |
| jsgotangco | thanks it'll come for sure :) | 01:00 |
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| markg24 | ogra - ok ... from yesterday ... right before leaving for my meeting the machines started to boot ... so it looks as though everything is working properly... | 01:03 |
| markg24 | Now - where do I add info to the wiki? | 01:04 |
| ogra | make a new page... EdubuntuEtherboot for example... | 01:04 |
| markg24 | ok -- do you ever sleep? | 01:04 |
| ogra | i'll have to check if we should ut mknbi on the Cd | 01:04 |
| ogra | yes, after release ;) | 01:04 |
| markg24 | lol -- alright -- mknbi is pretty (well, totally) necessary ... so I would think it should at least be on the cd ... | 01:05 |
| ogra | yup | 01:05 |
| JaneW | ogra: are you going to be like a bear and hibernate for a few weeks to catch up? | 01:06 |
| ogra | heh, yes :) | 01:06 |
| jsgotangco | good its cold in montreal | 01:06 |
| shaga | ogra: *laughing at your sleeping schedule* | 01:08 |
| ogra | ;) | 01:08 |
| ogra | the less i sleep now, the more i can sleep during the dapper release cycle :) | 01:08 |
| shaga | haha | 01:09 |
| markg24 | dapper sleep ... sounds so, well, dapper ... | 01:09 |
| shaga | have you ever thought about ubermans sleeping schedule? | 01:09 |
| shaga | http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=892542 | 01:10 |
| shaga | I've tried it twice, it gives you a hell of a lot more time ;) | 01:10 |
| ogra | heh, i'll try ;) | 01:11 |
| shaga | it's quite hardcore for starters tho | 01:16 |
| markg24 | why does evolution always puke when initially setting up an imap account? | 01:18 |
| markg24 | I'd really like to see evolution catch up to Kontact in printing/managing calendars ... that would be nice ... | 01:19 |
| jsgotangco | ogra, what's with edubuntu-desktop telling me that it is being kept back? | 01:20 |
| ogra | hmm | 01:21 |
| shaga | for me as well | 01:21 |
| shaga | I just used apt-get install edubuntu-desktop and restart gdm ;) | 01:21 |
| shaga | it removes gnome-screensaver and install x-screensaver instead as well | 01:22 |
| ogra | looks like its caused by openoffice | 01:22 |
| jsgotangco | ogra, yup | 01:23 |
| ogra | thats right, we switched back to xscreensaver | 01:23 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 01:23 |
| jsgotangco | and i was beginning to like gnome-screensaver | 01:23 |
| shaga | it's way cooler tho ;) | 01:23 |
| shaga | imho | 01:23 |
| ogra | not really... | 01:23 |
| ogra | but g-s-s isnt ready yet | 01:24 |
| ogra | once its ready it will be a lot better than x-s-s | 01:24 |
| ogra | (it already is in many areas) | 01:24 |
| shaga | I like how the screen transforms into screensaver and fades out with x-screensaver ;) or then I just haven't noticed it's before if it was in gnome-screensaver as well | 01:24 |
| ogra | no, thats missing in g-s-s | 01:25 |
| shaga | okay, good to hear I'm not just tripping :) | 01:25 |
| ogra | but g-s-s is integrated with gconf, uses dbus to communicate and has a way claener UI (even if its lackinf functionality) | 01:25 |
| ogra | once the missing bits are added x-s-s will look antique | 01:26 |
| shaga | sounds reasonable | 01:26 |
| markg24 | you need to be at least 25 to be antique ... I am antique :) | 01:27 |
| jsgotangco | 25? | 01:27 |
| jsgotangco | jeezz that makes me jurassic | 01:27 |
| markg24 | is that what the 'j' stands for (jsgotangco)? | 01:28 |
| jsgotangco | jerome | 01:28 |
| jsgotangco | that's my name | 01:28 |
| jsgotangco | s is my middle name | 01:28 |
| shaga | I'm just 22 | 01:29 |
| markg24 | oh ... really thought it was 'jurassic' there for a moment .. sorry jerome :) | 01:29 |
| === ogra is a mummy if 25 is already antique | ||
| jsgotangco | ogra, aye | 01:29 |
| jsgotangco | that makes us vintage | 01:29 |
| ogra | but x-s-s *is* 25 :) | 01:29 |
| markg24 | seriously now -- ogra -- how old are you -- you don't look that old in your photo ... | 01:29 |
| ogra | 35 :) | 01:29 |
| markg24 | oh ... ok ... that's old (hehe ... ) I'm 29 ... | 01:30 |
| ogra | i'm just shaved good on that pic :) | 01:30 |
| jsgotangco | haha | 01:30 |
| jsgotangco | 29 is still young | 01:30 |
| shaga | am I the youngest one speaking around here? :p | 01:30 |
| shaga | I don't feel myself too old anymore hehe | 01:30 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 01:30 |
| markg24 | I work with Youth (primarily) -- and I'm telling them I'm "30 minus 1" -- that way 30 doesn't catch me off guard | 01:30 |
| shaga | :) | 01:31 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 01:31 |
| jsgotangco | oh well | 01:31 |
| jsgotangco | i gotta take a rest first guys | 01:31 |
| jsgotangco | maybe a nap | 01:31 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 01:31 |
| jsgotangco | or dinner even | 01:31 |
| jsgotangco | see you all later | 01:31 |
| shaga | have fun | 01:31 |
| ogra | ciao | 01:31 |
| markg24 | ogra -- I notice that schooltool starts on start-up ... what exactly is starting? | 01:32 |
| jsgotangco | hrmm | 01:32 |
| jsgotangco | wait a minute | 01:32 |
| jsgotangco | installing edubuntu-destkop removes g-s-s? | 01:32 |
| ogra | replaces g-s-s with x-s-s | 01:33 |
| markg24 | jsgotangco ... I think in your old age you missed that bit just a few moments ago ... now, grab your cane and shake it at me angrily!! | 01:33 |
| jsgotangco | hrmm apt isn't too smart then | 01:33 |
| shaga | apt-cache is so stupid at least :p | 01:34 |
| === jsgotangco waves his rail gun instead | ||
| markg24 | dang ... a rail gun ... /me ducks | 01:34 |
| jsgotangco | well good night | 01:35 |
| markg24 | well ... I need to go as well -- I'm raising a portion of a drop-ceiling at our Youth Center ... I need saw blades :) | 01:39 |
| ogra | have fun :) | 01:39 |
| Yagisan | G'day ogra - is it possible to specify that services are on different machines eg tftp on box A, nfs on box B etc ? | 01:49 |
| ogra | Yagisan, sure, but you need to tweak the configs | 01:50 |
| Yagisan | ok. I don't like "leaving all my eggs in one basket" | 01:51 |
| Yagisan | I'll do a test run in vmware before rebuilding my network | 01:52 |
| ogra | :) | 01:52 |
| Yagisan | heh - I'm one of the 15 seeds for the i386 torrent | 01:54 |
| ogra | :-D | 01:55 |
| Yagisan | I'm glad my uploads aren't counted like my downloads are | 01:55 |
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| shaga | I was for the last evening(and for night as well, I think).. | 01:56 |
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| JaneW | what countries are represented here today? | 02:49 |
| Gand_ | Hi from Italy | 02:49 |
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| Gand_ | I'm installing edubuntu on a PPC G4 933 Mhz | 02:50 |
| Gand_ | I get an error installing LTSP ! | 02:50 |
| ogra | Gand_, did you follow the instructions ? (topic) | 02:51 |
| JaneW | ta | 02:51 |
| ogra | germany btw... | 02:51 |
| ogra | and pere is in norway (donno if he represents here currently :) ) | 02:52 |
| Gand_ | Opps I'm reading instructions now, be back in a minute :) | 02:52 |
| ogra | :) | 02:52 |
| pere | ogra: only randomly, and when adressed directly, I believe. :) | 02:54 |
| ogra | :) | 02:54 |
| pere | my xchat tab turns blue when someone mentino my name, and it triggers my curiosity. :) | 02:55 |
| ogra | pere, how's the release going at your side ? | 02:55 |
| pere | slowly forward. :) | 02:55 |
| shaga | btw, from finland | 02:55 |
| ogra | great :) | 02:55 |
| Gand_ | no problem with IP adress (I've a static one), and also my locale is installed and I've just finsih upgrade now, | 02:58 |
| Gand_ | but during install, LTSP chroot failed | 02:59 |
| ogra | Gand_, you have choosen the provided IP ? else it wont work due to the described bug | 02:59 |
| ogra | (will be fixed before mid next week) | 02:59 |
| Gand_ | no ip provided during installations, probably I mistake because windows said to leave blank the interface if DHCP was active, so I did'n insert eth0 and only I pressed enter. | 03:03 |
| ogra | thats the first screen the CD shows you after language selection... | 03:03 |
| ogra | from when was the iso you used ? | 03:04 |
| Gand_ | one minute i search it | 03:04 |
| Yagisan | ogra: http://eyagi.bpa.nu/~jamie/edubuntu-vmware.png :( | 03:04 |
| Gand_ | http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/ | 03:05 |
| Gand_ | no problem, I can reinstall it | 03:05 |
| Gand_ | I'm tryng some test | 03:06 |
| ogra | Gand_, make sure the data in /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf matches your network settings for the thin clinet network | 03:06 |
| Gand_ | this machine will be used as e-learning server with apachephpMysql+CMS or with ZopePlone | 03:09 |
| JaneW | ogra: just sent the e-mail askig for edubuntu CDs *hold thumbs* | 03:10 |
| Gand_ | I know how to set up this kind of server with OSX, I'd like to learn hot to do the same with ed/ubuntu | 03:10 |
| === ogra crosses fingers | ||
| ogra | Yagisan, sounds like a bug to report to bugzilla... | 03:11 |
| ogra | :/ | 03:11 |
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| ogra | MIL ?? | 03:14 |
| Gand_ | thank a lot now I've to go, I'll be back as soon as I can, I've set up vnc so I can work remotely from my home, see you , bye | 03:19 |
| JaneW | ogra: Mother In Law | 03:19 |
| ogra | oh | 03:19 |
| JaneW | ogra: cool our preview announcement in French http://www.scideralle.org/article.php3?id_article=152 | 03:19 |
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| === JaneW is quoted in the news :) http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3547611 | ||
| ogra | cool | 03:21 |
| Yagisan | ogra: This looks just like the error I had in hoary - that I already reported for RAID. hmm | 03:23 |
| ogra | JaneW, if we participate in SoC again, i propose to start a month earlier to have more time to select the students | 03:23 |
| ogra | Yagisan, oh, youre uing raid in vmware ? | 03:24 |
| JaneW | ogra: yeah it would be great, but we had no control over the timing this time... | 03:24 |
| ogra | just propose it to google ;) | 03:24 |
| JaneW | ogra: I do think it will be better co-ordinated next time with a greater chance of success | 03:24 |
| ogra | i hope so | 03:25 |
| JaneW | ideally we'd like it synchoronised with our release cycle | 03:25 |
| JaneW | it would be awesome ;) | 03:25 |
| ogra | :) | 03:25 |
| Yagisan | ogra: no - it's the same error as raid. It looks like the devices aren't made it time | 03:38 |
| Yagisan | ogra: me http://eyagi.bpa.nu/~jamie/Yagisan.jpg | 03:39 |
| ogra | lol | 03:40 |
| ogra | your small one really looks like you ;) | 03:40 |
| ogra | and i think i remember you now :) | 03:40 |
| Yagisan | I shaved and had a haircut for that pic | 03:40 |
| Yagisan | thank you | 03:40 |
| Yagisan | I think she looks like her mother | 03:41 |
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| JaneW | lol - CUTE! | 03:44 |
| JaneW | me 's babies... http://www.flickr.com/photos/13916877@N00/ | 03:46 |
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| Yagisan | cool boys | 03:47 |
| Yagisan | I think my next one is a boy | 03:48 |
| Yagisan | find out in November | 03:48 |
| JaneW | Yagisan: good luck | 03:50 |
| Yagisan | thanks | 03:50 |
| Yagisan | 2 under 2 =-O | 03:51 |
| JaneW | hehe | 03:52 |
| JaneW | mine were 22 mnths apart - it's doable... | 03:52 |
| JaneW | a friend had 3 under 3! | 03:52 |
| JaneW | that's scary! | 03:52 |
| Yagisan | my support is 6500 kilometres away :'( | 03:53 |
| Yagisan | just me and poor wife | 03:53 |
| Yagisan | if I had 3 under 3 - my wife would do a bobit job on me - ouch | 03:54 |
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| Yagisan | ogra: still here ? | 05:10 |
| ogra | Yagisan, sure | 05:11 |
| Yagisan | ogra: same error - no lvm this time | 05:12 |
| Yagisan | :( | 05:12 |
| Yagisan | got a newer iso ?? | 05:13 |
| ogra | Yagisan, hmm, all i can say is report it to bugzilla and probably ping jbailey in -devel | 05:13 |
| ogra | the access to the drive will be dependent on initramfs, thats jbailey territory | 05:13 |
| shaga | I was just going to say that he's always around.. never sleeps nor leaves his computer alone :p | 05:15 |
| shaga | but by the second time I checked this channel, it was already too late ;) | 05:15 |
| ogra | heh | 05:16 |
| JaneW | ogra: ping | 05:18 |
| ogra | JaneW, just answering the mail | 05:19 |
| JaneW | mutter mutter | 05:19 |
| shaga | quite edited for reason too long to tell, but quess whos this fellow http://sha.rikos.org/sh.jpg | 05:20 |
| JaneW | ogra: feeling quite p'ed off - why can;t we make progess on this issue? | 05:21 |
| JaneW | shage: very delic indeed ;) | 05:22 |
| ogra | JaneW, dont ask *me* | 05:22 |
| shaga | :p | 05:22 |
| JaneW | ogra: sigh | 05:22 |
| ogra | JaneW, especially since we talk about less than $2000 here i guess | 05:22 |
| ogra | i'm already thinking about to sell some HW and let them press myself... | 05:23 |
| ogra | *SIGH* | 05:23 |
| JaneW | the point I think is that most ubuntu user *could* d/l the damn thing themselves | 05:23 |
| JaneW | most potential edubuntu users couldn't... | 05:23 |
| JaneW | but I'll just do what I am told | 05:24 |
| ogra | ok, sent | 05:41 |
| Yagisan | good night all | 05:44 |
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| markg | ogra - where's the wiki page with instructions for squidguard ... I bookmarked it on my other computer ... sigh ... | 09:10 |
| ogra | you mean the one from the ubuntu wiki ? | 09:13 |
| ogra | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContentFiltering | 09:13 |
| markg | yep - thanks so much | 09:13 |
| markg | Oh - one thing -- on my setup in the Youth Center (8 machines ... 1 server) -- The first machine turned on always fails to load -- it get's to the nfs-sever part and times-out ... every machine started after that works ... just thought I'd mention it. | 09:14 |
| ogra | thats bug 12942 | 09:15 |
| ogra | feel free to follow up there :( | 09:15 |
| ogra | err | 09:15 |
| ogra | :) | 09:15 |
| markg | I see ... bi-polar kind of thing, eh ... | 09:16 |
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| markg | hrmph -- is squid picky too -- usually I can just apt-get install but it's not wanting to start ... | 09:24 |
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| rickfitz | ogra: Hi - got a possible screensaver problem on the server. | 09:51 |
| ogra | with which screensaver ? xscreensaver or gnome-screensaver ? note we switched back to xscreensaver yesterday | 09:55 |
| shaga | are you sure it was yesterday? :) | 09:56 |
| ogra | yup | 09:56 |
| ogra | i did it... | 09:56 |
| ogra | yesterday night... just in time for todays build | 09:56 |
| shaga | okay, I was just in too late then to notice it immediatly :) | 09:56 |
| ogra | (night == german TZ) | 09:57 |
| shaga | is that how much earlier than gmt+2? | 09:57 |
| shaga | do you happen to know | 09:57 |
| ogra | i think its the same | 09:58 |
| rickfitz | ogra: I did the update, but haven't re-booted or re-logged-in. Maybe that's it. I have a blank screen with mouse pointer (arrow), but no response. | 09:59 |
| ogra | btw, the screensaver change went alongside with khelpcenter being added ;) | 09:59 |
| ogra | ah, yes, a new login is required to change the screensaver | 10:00 |
| rickfitz | Unless you want me to investigate, I'll just re-boot. | 10:00 |
| shaga | the thing I love mostly with x/xorg is ctrl+alt+backspace <3 ;) | 10:00 |
| ogra | you can login on console and kill the gnome-screensaver process with udo | 10:01 |
| ogra | sudo even | 10:01 |
| shaga | it can be done via graphical gui as well I assume? | 10:04 |
| shaga | system monitor utility | 10:05 |
| ogra | how, if the screen is locked ? | 10:05 |
| rickfitz | I just killed it with ctrl+alt+backspace, then startx and all's well. I'll reboot anyway. | 10:05 |
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| ogra | ok | 10:05 |
| rickfitz | Couple of other things. Server keyboard is british, clients are US. Shouldn't clients follow server set-up? | 10:07 |
| ogra | yes, i havent had my big ltsp fixing session yet, i'll fix the loginmanager and the dhcp.conf generation next week | 10:08 |
| shaga | ogra: oh, I bugged, my mistake :p | 10:08 |
| ogra | currently it just uses PATH and LANG from the cilent... where both is set to us or C | 10:08 |
| shaga | I usually start x mostly via sudo gdm | 10:08 |
| ogra | and PATH is still missing /usr/games ... | 10:09 |
| rickfitz | also noticed the client shows the wrong time and date. And always seems to fail the ntp sync during start-up, which I guess may be connected. | 10:10 |
| ogra | nope, the time and datedtring in the login manager is hardcoded, its a two line fix that didnt get included yet | 10:11 |
| ogra | s/datedtring/date string/ | 10:12 |
| rickfitz | Ah :-) | 10:12 |
| ogra | it should show some date in july | 10:12 |
| rickfitz | it does! | 10:12 |
| rickfitz | I have a few more general usability observations, but I'll send that stuf to the list. | 10:13 |
| ogra | i have a preety nice themeable login manager that didnt make the freeze... in case youre interested: http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu/ | 10:13 |
| shaga | gotta try it soon | 10:14 |
| shaga | :) | 10:14 |
| rickfitz | Yeah. Saw your conversation with Flint yesterday. | 10:14 |
| shaga | I am interested definetly | 10:14 |
| shaga | and I saw it as well I think | 10:14 |
| ogra | :) | 10:14 |
| shaga | flint is quite freaky fellow :) | 10:15 |
| shaga | but good one | 10:15 |
| rickfitz | Had a quick look, but couldn't get apt to play in the chroot environment. | 10:15 |
| ogra | he has had a strong discussion with mdz to get it included... but mdz didnt allow it | 10:15 |
| rickfitz | didn't have time to do more | 10:15 |
| ogra | that migh be because it was installed from cd... you might need to copy the sources.list from the main environment to the chroot | 10:16 |
| rickfitz | any more thoughts on disk space? | 10:16 |
| ogra | CD space ? | 10:16 |
| rickfitz | ye | 10:16 |
| ogra | or HD space for installations ? | 10:16 |
| rickfitz | cd | 10:16 |
| ogra | we have a DVD now ;) | 10:16 |
| ogra | i will put all languages possible on the remaining space for the arches that have space left... | 10:17 |
| rickfitz | Oh. Thought people didn't like that for third-world countries without readers | 10:17 |
| ogra | i.e. x86 and amd64 | 10:17 |
| ogra | yes, thats why i will have a sensible selection of languages on the cd... | 10:18 |
| ogra | if you want *all* 90 langs you need to take the DVD | 10:18 |
| rickfitz | gotta go. back later | 10:18 |
| ogra | ciao | 10:18 |
| shaga | so you moved into dvd?!! really? | 10:37 |
| shaga | or at least are adding as an option | 10:37 |
| shaga | and amd64/x86 at the same disk | 10:37 |
| shaga | if that is so and I got it right, it's more than perfect ;) | 10:37 |
| ogra | nope, its stil a DVD for every arch | 10:38 |
| ogra | but it includes all of main | 10:38 |
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| shaga | oh, okay | 10:59 |
| shaga | but that would be nice to choose via cdboot | 10:59 |
| shaga | amd64 or x86 for example | 10:59 |
| shaga | dvd has space enough for that I assume? ;) | 10:59 |
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| jamey3 | does anyone know the exact release date? | 11:08 |
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| ogra | oct 13 | 11:12 |
| jamey3 | ogra, thanks | 11:15 |
| jamey3 | is everyone really busy readying the release then? :D | 11:15 |
| ogra | yup | 11:15 |
| rickfitz | Now have the themeable login manager installed. Much nicer :-) | 11:23 |
| rickfitz | and easier to use too. (Doesn't lose focus when you move the mouse.) | 11:23 |
| ogra | yup | 11:26 |
| ogra | but sadly a dapper feature, wont make breezy :/ | 11:26 |
| mpt | themeable login manager? | 11:26 |
| ogra | mpt, yes... | 11:27 |
| ogra | a gdm fake :) | 11:27 |
| shaga | ogra: are you definetly sure it won't make it? | 11:27 |
| ogra | yes | 11:27 |
| shaga | okay | 11:27 |
| ogra | there was a loud argument about it... | 11:27 |
| shaga | I can see it already :) | 11:28 |
| ogra | mpt, i'll show it to you at UBZ (if i find a PC for a ltsp install) | 11:28 |
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| rickfitz | Feature freezes are a necessary evil. You have to stop somewhere. | 11:33 |
| ogra | yup | 11:33 |
| ogra | but it was done only some days after freeze... thats what bothers some people... | 11:33 |
| rickfitz | but it's open source. We're free to adapt it as we please. | 11:35 |
| ogra | sure, its just not in the install... you need amnual intervention | 11:36 |
| ogra | manual even | 11:36 |
| rickfitz | I like amnual! | 11:36 |
| ogra | :) | 11:36 |
| mpt | ogra: So gdm-fake : gdm :: gnome-screensaver : xscreensaver? | 11:43 |
| ogra | nah, i wont replace gdm... | 11:44 |
| ogra | even its very tempting... my ldm has only 200 lines of python code, it fully themeable and very light | 11:45 |
| ogra | s/it/is | 11:45 |
| mpt | 200 lines of python code | 11:45 |
| ogra | around 200 | 11:45 |
| ogra | and a bit glade | 11:45 |
| mpt | The iTunes replacement my flatmate implemented yesterday was 200 lines of python code | 11:45 |
| ogra | hehe | 11:45 |
| ogra | <3 python <3 | 11:46 |
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| rickfitz | ogra: just looking at a screensaver running on a thin client. Is that back again with xscreensaver. (I thought it was fixed in gnome-screensaver) | 11:58 |
| ogra | but only after a wile, right...? i still have to find the right place in the code to disable it... | 12:00 |
| ogra | dont worry, its on my TODO | 12:00 |
| rickfitz | sure. just thought I'd mention it in case it was a regression. | 12:01 |
| shaga | http://www.bash.org/?86218 | 12:02 |
| shaga | :D | 12:02 |
| ogra | i just didnt fix it when i was told to rather care for gnome-screensaver... | 12:02 |
| ogra | which turned out to generate tons of complaintment mails in my inbox :/ | 12:03 |
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