[12:11] <Riddell> \sh_away: amarok 1.3.2!
[12:38] <Tonio> Riddell: are you still searching for goof network configuration tools ?
[12:38] <Tonio> good
[12:39] <Riddell> Tonio: always
[12:39] <Tonio> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=21832
[12:39] <Tonio> I've packaged it and it waits for revu ;)
[12:39] <Tonio> it works like a charm
[12:39] <Tonio> but only wifi at the moment
[12:40] <Tonio> I think that could a good replacement to kwifimanager that only show informations but doesn't allow any connection
[12:40] <Tonio> don't you ?
[12:41] <Tonio> finallyi'll wait a bit before going to sleep :)*
[12:44] <Riddell> I'd compile it but my processor is busy working on amarok
[12:49] <Tonio> okay ;) it was for information
[12:49] <Tonio> I'll have a look at kdenetworkconf in svn, I hope kde 3.5 will provide a good version of this !
[12:49] <Riddell> I've looked at it before, can't remember what I concluded
[12:55] <Riddell> Tonio: the knetworkconf in breezy is the KDE SVN version pretty much
[12:55] <Tonio> arf ! not a good news ;)
[12:56] <Tonio> I have searched for the source package that is supposed to correct the bug, so I think i'll send an email to aslinux developper'steam
[12:58] <Riddell> and hint that they are allowed to send stuff back to KDE
[01:04] <Tonio> yes I know that, I'll ask them whether it has been done or not
[01:04] <Tonio> Ho I have to post a request for adept too, i forgot that
[01:04] <Tonio> i'll do it tomorrow
[01:07] <Riddell> which request?
[01:15] <apokryphos> There's a README.packagers in the blinken/ -- you should probably check it http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2420
[01:16] <apokryphos> things can take so much longer when there's new apps, or many things change in an app; didn't realise devs can have such a hard time upgrading :P. Despite that, I like it -- kinda fun. Plus, it's gotta be done :)
[01:17] <apokryphos> if betas are packaged I figure it makes it much easier for when final is available
[01:17] <Riddell> apokryphos: this is just beta so no need to get it perfect, take the quick route for now and leave a note in the changelog
[01:17] <apokryphos> ok
[01:21] <Tonio> Riddell: request for saving system state and importing like in synaptic ;)we discuss that last week
[01:21] <Riddell> oh aye
[02:01] <apokryphos> Did a lot, but there's a few little more bits; gonna have to call it a night -- first proper day at University tomorrow :), so gotta be up early. Hopefully I'll be able to finish it all for tomorrow
[02:05] <Riddell> apokryphos: thanks and sleep well
[02:24] <Tonio> Riddell: are you aware of the kubuntu-guidance dependency problem ???
[02:25] <Riddell> Tonio: what's the problem?
[02:25] <Tonio> i get an error : unable tofind library libpython2.4.so
[02:25] <Tonio> while python2.4 is installed.....
[02:25] <Tonio> but there is no libpython2.4.so
[02:25] <Riddell> Tonio: latest breezy?
[02:25] <Tonio> I have a libpython2.4.so.1
[02:26] <Tonio> yep latest breezy and up to date
[02:26] <Tonio> tonio@Kubuntu:~$ locate libpython2.4
[02:26] <Tonio> /usr/lib/libpython2.4.so.1.0
[02:26] <Tonio> /usr/lib/libpython2.4.so.1
[02:26] <Tonio> tonio@Kubuntu:~$              
[02:26] <Riddell> Tonio: what are you running to get guidance?
[02:26] <Tonio> that might be issue, where is .so ? ;)
[02:26] <Riddell> it's in python2.4-dev
[02:27] <Tonio> yep, I know, but python2.4-dev isn't in kde-guidance dependancies:)
[02:27] <Tonio> should it depend on it ?
[02:27] <Riddell> I'm going to make it depend on it as a quick fix, but it should be fixed to not need it
[02:27] <Tonio> I'm running from start menu, I have the "parameters" submenu
[02:27] <Riddell> running system settings?
[02:28] <Tonio> let me try with systemsettings....
[02:28] <Riddell> how else do you run?
[02:29] <Tonio> I added the "configuration" submenu in the K menu, and I generally manage from there
[02:29] <Riddell> Tonio: how did you add that?
[02:29] <Tonio> I think in english the menu is labeled "parameters"
[02:29] <Tonio> right click in the bar
[02:29] <Tonio> configure
[02:30] <Tonio> then "menus"
[02:30] <Tonio> and there you can add variety kind of submenus
[02:30] <Tonio> like "search" "quick browser", "parameters" etc...
[02:31] <Tonio> it is by default in kde ;) you never saw taht ?
[02:31] <Tonio> adding this menu is a real cool way to get fast acces to all configuration options ;)
[02:33] <Tonio> Riddell: there are less aplications by default no ? can't see kolourpaint, kgpg etc.... that's better ;)
[02:33] <Tonio> to many tools by default in hoary ;)
[02:33] <Riddell> kgpg was never default, we have krita for graphics
[02:33] <Tonio> kgpg ? according to what I remember I never had to install it.........
[02:34] <Tonio> maybe I added it manually, but I don't remember that, anyway, you know default config better that anyone ;)
[02:34] <Tonio> dd you find that submenu ?
[02:35] <Riddell> naw, 3.5 kicker seems to be broken for that
[02:35] <Riddell> speaking of which, I just announced 3.5 beta http://dot.kde.org/1127343716/
[02:36] <Tonio> this feature doesn't exist in 3.5 '-(
[02:36] <Tonio> dammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmn
[02:36] <Tonio> Riddell: I'm waiting for 3.5 so much
[02:37] <Tonio> my girlfriend wants me to wait for webcam support or msn to switch  ^^
[02:39] <Tonio> I will not test kde 3.5 beta..... kubuntu unstable with a beta version of kde might be a bit to much for me :)
[02:40] <Riddell> live on the edge
[02:40] <Tonio> Riddell: I can confirm you that about libpython2.4 I get the same error from systemsettings, kcontrol and the parameters submenus
[02:41] <Riddell> but damnit why, ldd shows everything as fine
[02:42] <Tonio> :(
[02:43] <Tonio> I'm gonna learn python this year, with two friend of for a personnal project, and Ican promise you once done, we'll do a good tool to configure network ;) That shouldn't be complicated anyway !
[02:44] <Riddell> I'll remember you said that :)
[02:44] <Tonio> you can ;) I'm not the kind o guy that forgets his promisses
[02:45] <Tonio> I promissed you I'll take the time to learn how to build packages correctly and I've done it ;) still waiting revuing for about 17 packages now...
[02:45] <Tonio> I'll had to other packages tomorrow
[02:45] <Tonio> two
[02:46] <Riddell> Tonio: please poke me into reviewing the packages  (not tonight but soon)
[02:47] <Tonio> okay, I only add kde apps, so indeed you are concerned ;)
[02:47] <Tonio> Riddell: so many people add gnome ones, that I decided to dedicate myself to kde ;)
[02:49] <Tonio> Riddell:  question, where is kftpgraber gone ?
[02:49] <Riddell> Tonio: maybe it's on the old REVU server
[02:49] <Tonio> it was uploaded on revu a few month ago and then dissapered..... I've done another package of 0.7 beta1 that works much better that 0.6
[02:50] <Tonio> anyway concerning everything I uploaded, the only one that might interessed you is certainly "wireless assistant"
[02:51] <Tonio> it is the kind of thing that could replace kwifimanager, much better, really ;)
[02:51] <Tonio> other aps might not interesset you
[02:53] <Tonio> Riddell: do you think we can contribute to adept ??? I'd like to provide the french translation ;)
[02:53] <Tonio> are you in contact with the developper ?
[02:55] <Riddell> Tonio: yes I am
[02:55] <allee> Tonio: revu: you pkged wlassistant ;)  See also http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-kde/kde-extras/wlassistant/trunk/?rev=0&sc=0 wlassistant still needs a final touch. We always welcome a helping hand.  
[02:55] <Riddell> Tonio: it's in kde's SVN so you would probably have to translate it in the normal KDE way
[02:56] <Tonio> Riddell: okay
[02:57] <Tonio> allee: I'm not a developper so helping will not be possible ;)
[02:57] <Tonio> anyway, i'll continue to package all new version of course ;) but that's all I can do !
[02:58] <allee> Tonio: that debian/ repo.  So 'no' developing, 'only' pkging ;)
[02:58] <Tonio> allee: is the svn version working better ???? I don't have any problems with the actual package. didn't see any bugs ;)
[03:00] <allee> Better?? don't know I use orig.tar + alioth svn checkout of debian/ dir.  pkg builds out of the box here.
[03:03] <allee> About polishing: see http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-kde/kde-extras/wlassistant/trunk/debian/TODO?op=file&rev=0&sc=0
[03:03] <Tonio> would you like my source package ?
[03:04] <allee> Yupp.  I'll merge everything
[03:04] <Tonio> i'm sorry but I am up for 42 hours whithout sleeping, I don't understand everything actually lol :)
[03:04] <Tonio> okay let me send it to you just a sec
[03:05] <allee> But in case your interested, it's no big deal to get write access to the repo.  merge dist independent stuff on trunk and ...
[03:05] <Tonio> I didn't add a watch file as it was the initial release for my, not an update
[03:05] <Tonio> allee: not that I don't want to ;)
[03:05] <allee> ubuntu spedific stuff in wlassistant/branches/kubuntu
[03:05] <allee> Tonio: pity :)
[03:06] <Tonio> but I'm packaging for ubuntu, some people would like that I help as a MOTU, I have personnal projects to maintain, and a girlfriend to get married with lol
[03:06] <Tonio> I can send you all packagesyou want, that's not a problem ;)
[03:07] <Tonio> but concerning uploading, I may forget unfortunately ;)
[03:07] <Tonio> I even don't have enought time towork on my website actually.....
[03:08] <Tonio> the other problem is that I don't have a debian based computer to check the packages ;)
[03:09] <allee> Tonio: no problem. 
[03:09] <Tonio> yes with pbuilder that might be okay
[03:09] <Tonio> you're right ;)
[03:09] <allee> Tonio: btw I don't have a debian sid host too at the moment
[03:09] <Tonio> allee: http://www.planetemu.net/temp/wlassistant.tar.gz
[03:10] <Tonio> you have all inside
[03:10] <allee> Tonio: In case you pkg anything that's below: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-kde/kde-extras/ send me the diff.gz
[03:10] <allee> you can of course check trunk/debian or branches/ubuntu for latest additions
[03:10] <Tonio> okay
[03:11] <allee> Tonio: thx that very kind
[03:11] <Tonio> I may package knemo when upgraded ;)
[03:11] <allee> saves me some time
[03:11] <Tonio> that's normal, if I wouldn't do that for you I would be better in the microsoft's world lol ^^
[03:12] <allee> grep the svn version.  and debuild -i it.  Works perfectly on hoary (not tired breezy yet)
[03:13] <Tonio> I'll try, but maybe tomorrow, I really have to go to sleep... I a an important meeting tomorrow and I start feeling I will get there with very small red eyes lol
[03:14] <Tonio> 43 hours up now.............. damn...........
[03:14] <allee> orig tarballs for the debian/ dirs alioth are at http://pkg-kde.alioth.org/kde-extra/orig.tar.gz/
[03:14] <Riddell> Tonio: go to sleep
[03:14] <allee> ah no knemo tarball.  Uploading ...
[03:14] <Tonio> ah Riddell just let me send him the diff ;)
[03:15] <Tonio> no you're right, my eye don't se much actualy ;)
[03:15] <allee> wget tarball; svn co kde-extra/<pkg>/trunk/debian;  debuild -i; works in breezy/hoary most of the time
[03:15] <allee> Tonio: wait a bit ;)
[03:15] <Tonio> allee:  not possible sorry ;)
[03:16] <Tonio> see ya tomorrow ;)
[03:16] <allee> Tonio: I'll promise there are there tomorrow only waiting for you
[03:16] <allee> nite Tonio 
[03:16] <Tonio> ^^ okay, I'll come :)
[03:16] <Tonio> bye guys !
[03:38] <Riddell> aseigo: go on, you can tell us
[03:38] <Riddell> hmm, no
[03:39] <Riddell> http://kubuntu.org/~jr/amarok/ amarok 1.3.2 testers wanted
[05:23] <seth_k> yay, /me yoinks amarok debs
[07:38] <amu> moin
[08:19] <\sh> Riddell: can't we get around this stupid .so problem without depending on python-dev for pykdeextensions?
[08:46] <amu> who needs pykdeextensions, just drop the package  :D
[09:57] <verwilst> Riddell: hello!
[10:19] <\sh> amu: no ways :) it's the only method to write kcm modules in python ;)
[11:19] <hunger> Riddell: Just tried speedcrunch... it is way to strange for normal users IMHO.
[11:20] <hunger> Riddell: and it can not do half the stuff kcalc does (like converting between hex and dec, etc).
[11:21] <hunger> Riddell: Could we please get kcalc back in kubuntu-devel?
[11:21] <hunger> Riddell: Plus speedcrunch has no help.
[11:31] <amu> \sh: ehuh    
[11:32] <amu> so cool. got such a new minimac for my desk  
[11:37] <Riddell> \sh: I'm sure we can but I've no idea how
[11:37] <Riddell> \sh: I did try fixing the libtool install path but it didn't make any difference
[11:46] <verwilst> Riddell: probs creating the debs?
[11:56] <\sh> amu: send me one ;)
[11:56] <\sh> Riddell: will check this evening how to fix this issue
[12:15] <hunger> Riddell: How about using abakus instad of speedcrunch? (http://grammarian.homelinux.net/abakus/) That has KDE integration.
[02:02] <elvirolo> hi all
[02:02] <elvirolo> are there any plans about making packages for _all_ of kde 3.5 beta 1 ?
[02:02] <apokryphos> already told you... but anyway :)
[02:03] <verwilst> hehe
[02:04] <elvirolo> just to know if they had more info :)
[03:18] <apokryphos> hm, kgeography has no xpm for the menu entry. What to do?
[04:22] <author> Hi guys.. who is the responsible person of the kubuntu forums?
[04:24] <apokryphos> eh?
[04:25] <apokryphos> Ubuntuforums provide their own moderators for the Kubuntu forum, I believe; one of which might be in #ubuntuforums
[04:26] <author> http://kubuntuforums.net/ -> http://www.kubuntu.org/ [News] 
[04:26] <author> apokryphos: this forum i meant ;)
[04:27] <apokryphos> ah, hadn't seen that before. Kubuntu.org is of course owned by the kubuntu devs; kubuntuforums is third-party, I'm reasonably sure
[04:28] <author> mhm i think its offical?
[04:52] <jjesse> semi offical author 
[04:53] <author> ah
[04:53] <apokryphos> jjesse: who runs it?
[04:54] <jjesse> apokryphos: i don't know, but i know there is some discusion scheduled for the community council meeting
[04:54] <apokryphos> jjesse: oh; when's the next?
[04:54] <jjesse> apokryphos:  Sep 27th 2005 at 20:00 UTC
[04:54] <apokryphos> but ergh, phpBB can be real ugly :P
[04:54] <jjesse> i'm going to do my best to be there this time
[04:55] <apokryphos> missed the last one too? Slacker 8)
[04:55] <author> but i mean on the kubuntu website was the text "kubuntu use the infratructur and support from ubuntu".. and now this text is not on the website.. 
[04:56] <apokryphos> aha, a news article posted on it (on kubuntu.org)
[05:04] <author> apokryphos: sorry my english.. 
[05:06] <apokryphos> you meant that earlier? Oh ok.
[05:09] <author> exactly, in former times the website stood on
[09:18] <Riddell> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/
[09:18] <Riddell> (not announced yet or something)
[09:20] <Tm_T> soo, new place to dump ubuntu-nonrelated stuff from community ;)
[09:20] <Tm_T> I think it's good thing though
[09:24] <amu> Riddell: my upload failed last night, i'll reup it tonight 
[09:24] <Riddell> amu: yeah, I saw that :(
[09:24] <Riddell> rsync is your friend
[09:24] <amu> sure :)  
[09:38] <elvirolo> hi all ...
[09:39] <elvirolo> does anyone know if musicbrainz support for mp3's in amarok is planned ?
[09:40] <Riddell> elvirolo: it's not really possible, linking musicbrains against libmad means we would have to have libmad on the CD and the lawyers don't like that
[09:40] <elvirolo> i see
[09:40] <elvirolo> so i have to recompile it ?
[09:43] <Riddell> elvirolo: you need to recompile libtunepimp, add libmad to the build-depends in debian/control and run debuild
[09:44] <elvirolo> ok, I need to RTFM to do all that
[09:44] <elvirolo> BTW, great KDE packages :)
[09:45] <Riddell> libmad-dev that should be
[09:45] <_tonio> hi all
[09:46] <Riddell> hi _tonio 
[09:46] <Riddell> anyone tested amarok 1.3.2 http://kubuntu.org/~jr/amarok/
[09:46] <Riddell> ?
[09:46] <_tonio> hi Riddell  -> I'm gonna do it
[09:47] <_tonio> let me on minute ;)
[09:47] <\sh> Riddell: amarok-1.3.2?
[09:47] <\sh> new?
[09:47] <\sh> oh no
[09:47] <Riddell> \sh: oh yes
[09:47] <Riddell> with alsasink 
[09:47] <\sh> fck
[09:48] <_tonio> Riddell: do you know this service menu -> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=23981
[09:48] <Riddell> been on pause here last night and doesn't seem to have memory leaked
[09:48] <_tonio> should be nice to have it in kubuntu for complete newbies no ?
[09:48] <_tonio> I tested with my girlfriend, and dpkg seems to hard for her lol ^
[09:49] <_tonio> you even can make a right click on a weblink poiting to a deb ;) that's nice ;)
[09:49] <Riddell> _tonio: yes, been meaning to look at that.  thanks for reminding me
[09:50] <Riddell> hmm, do we want people to be able to install stuff from the web I wonder
[09:51] <_tonio> that's the question ;)
[09:51] <_tonio> I think when kubuntu will have more kde apps packages it might not be necessary, but at the moment, it can unfortunately I think....
[09:54] <_tonio> Riddell: first good point -> alsalink ;)
[09:54] <_tonio> 2nd good point, artsdlink works nice ;)
[09:55] <_tonio> only strange thing is that package appears as "broken" in synaptic.....
[09:55] <_tonio> strage !
[09:55] <_tonio> strange
[09:58] <Riddell> _tonio: there's no deb source, just download and dpkg --install
[09:59] <_tonio> I know, that's what I've done, but normally they appear as "locally installed package"
[10:01] <_tonio> Riddell: it is a problem with the version kdelibs4c2
[10:01] <_tonio>  amarok-gstreamer dpend de kdelibs4c2 (>= 4:3.4.91); cependant:
[10:01] <_tonio>   La version de kdelibs4c2 sur le systme est 4:3.4.2-0ubuntu4.
[10:02] <Riddell> _tonio: ah fooey, I packagead with kde 3.5 beta 1 installed
[10:02] <_tonio> appart from that, everything is fine, and really better that 1.3.1
[10:02] <_tonio> yep
[10:02] <Riddell> now we just need to persuade mdz to let it in
[10:02] <_tonio> mdz ? wo is he ?
[10:03] <Riddell> the ubuntu distro master
[10:03] <Riddell> his approval is needed for upstream version changes this late in the release cycle
[10:05] <_tonio> ah........ because itr is in main and not universe of course :)
[10:06] <_tonio> well letting the old crapping version would be a sad thing, really ;) but og course he should have so many things to get out.....
[10:09] <\sh> Riddell: u put khelpcenter in suggests?
[10:10] <Riddell> \sh: I think I just copied your one for that
[10:10] <\sh> Riddell: ok..u ask mdz or should I? 
[10:11] <Riddell> \sh: have you tested it?
[10:11] <\sh> Riddell: no..I'm doing it just now..compiling it
[10:11] <\sh> just have to fix this bloody apt-file thingy
[10:11] <Riddell> apt-file thingy?
[10:12] <elvirolo> hum
[10:12] <elvirolo> i just noticed that amarok constantly uses up > 70 % CPU here...
[10:12] <\sh> apt-file package
[10:13] <Riddell> elvirolo: which version?
[10:13] <\sh> Riddell: but if you say, it's ok..and you don't see any memleak..I'll trust u in those things more then I trust me ;)
[10:13] <elvirolo> Riddell: 1.3 with both gst & xine
[10:13] <\sh> woot?
[10:13] <Riddell> \sh: well dunno, it's been on pause, maybe if it's on play for ages it gets worse
[10:14] <Riddell> elvirolo: which 1.3?
[10:14] <\sh> Riddell: I'll test just now after compiling
[10:15] <\sh> Riddell: u mixed the changelog
[10:15] <elvirolo> Riddell: 1.3.1
[10:15] <amu> Riddell: upload complete 
[10:15] <amu> 59aa34f1e6a84d6669310150181480ad  kubuntu-hoary-live-i386.iso
[10:15] <\sh> Riddell: the version history is not in order as it should be ;)
[10:16] <Riddell> elvirolo: please give 1.3.2 a try  http://kubuntu.org/~jr/amarok/
[10:16] <Riddell> \sh: in the changelog?
[10:16] <elvirolo> Riddell: ok
[10:16] <\sh> Riddell: yepp
[10:17] <Riddell> elvirolo: let us know how you get on
[10:17] <elvirolo> sure
[10:17] <Riddell> amu: downloading
[10:18] <Riddell> \sh: what did I do wrong?
[10:18] <\sh> amarok (2:1.3.1-0ubuntu2) breezy; urgency=low
[10:18] <\sh> this was my entry
[10:18] <\sh> amarok (1.3.0-1) unstable; urgency=low
[10:19] <\sh> comes after 2:1.3.1 and not as a newer version ;) 
[10:20] <\sh> 1.3.2-1 -> 1.3.1-2 -> 1.3.1-1 -> 1.3.0-1 -> 2:1.3.1 
[10:20] <\sh> 1.3.2-1 -> 1.3.1-2 -> 2:1.3.1-ubuntu -> 1.3.0-1 ... this is the correct order, is it?
[10:21] <\sh> Riddell: i can sort it out
[10:25] <Riddell> I wonder if we should have a tunepimp-mp3 and musicbrainz-mp3 in universe
[10:26] <Riddell> lots of people are missing their musicbrainz
[10:26] <elvirolo> hum
[10:26] <elvirolo> same prob for amarok 1.3.2
[10:27] <Riddell> elvirolo: what do you do to get the problem?
[10:28] <elvirolo> elvirolo: just play a mp3
[10:29] <Riddell> elvirolo: what engine?
[10:30] <elvirolo> both gst and xine
[10:30] <Riddell> elvirolo: which output?
[10:30] <elvirolo> same for ogg's in fact
[10:30] <Riddell> osssink or alsasink?
[10:30] <elvirolo> alsa
[10:31] <Riddell> elvirolo: any paticular mp3 or all of them?
[10:31] <elvirolo> all of them
[10:31] <elvirolo> mp3's, ogg's, mpc's ...
[10:31] <Riddell> strange
[10:31] <_tonio> lu;)
[10:31] <\sh> give me a bit time..I'll check it as well :)
[10:32] <elvirolo> wow, it gets up to 90 %
[10:34] <elvirolo> i'm going to bed
[10:34] <elvirolo> thanks for your help
[10:34] <elvirolo> good night (or whatever)
[10:44] <\sh>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[10:44] <\sh>  7001 shermann  15   0 50872  21m 7920 S 13.9  4.4   1:34.13 gnome-terminal
[10:44] <\sh> 18691 shermann  15   0  119m  42m  22m S 11.6  8.4   0:06.82 amarokapp
[10:45] <Riddell> :)
[10:46] <Riddell> that's why we have konsole
[10:46] <\sh> looks ok..for xine and gstreamer
[10:46] <\sh> ehe..evolution and xorg are eating between 34m and 40m ,-)
[10:47] <\sh> so what the hell ,-)
[10:47] <\sh> 512m have to be filled up...and the gig swap too ,-)
[10:49] <\sh> amarok has now a pretty volume control 
[10:49] <\sh> did u see it? 
[10:49] <Riddell> I like it
[10:50] <\sh> yeah
[10:50] <\sh> I think it's not more broken then 1.3.1 ;) so let's go for it
[10:50] <Riddell> the track counter slider still not that great
[10:50] <\sh> yeah...they will fix it in 1.4 ;)
[10:52] <\sh> will u ask mdz? 
[10:53] <Riddell> ok
[10:53] <\sh> then he will all the bugs back to u ;)..
[10:54] <\sh> btw...do u have a general kubuntu bugs list or address which can hold 2 or more email address to forward all the bugs assigned to "kubuntu-bugs@bla"?
[10:54] <Riddell> \sh: not sure what you mean
[10:55] <\sh> Riddell: all the kde bugs are assigned to you...a more common email address like kde-bugs@ubuntu.com or something would help to forward the bugs to a team
[10:55] <Riddell> \sh: there's the kubuntu-bugs@ mailing list
[10:59] <Riddell> \sh: can you send that to me too?
[10:59] <\sh> sure
[11:00] <\sh> send
[11:02] <\sh> hmmm
[11:02] <\sh> it consumes actually 8 Megs more then 1.3.1
[11:10] <\sh> but it's nicer on the cpu usage actually
[11:10] <\sh> can be that elvirolo had beagle running
[11:10] <Riddell> why would that effect amarok?
[11:11] <\sh> it would affect memory consumption and cpu utilisation
[11:12] <Riddell> of amarok?
[11:12] <\sh> Riddell: he never mentioned amarok itself ;)
[11:13] <\sh> top - 23:13:17 up  5:01,  4 users,  load average: 0.49, 0.56, 0.71
[11:13] <\sh> Tasks: 114 total,   1 running, 113 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
[11:13] <\sh> Cpu0  : 24.4% us,  1.9% sy,  0.0% ni, 73.6% id,  0.0% wa,  0.0% hi,  0.0% si
[11:13] <\sh> Mem:    516364k total,   510608k used,     5756k free,     6628k buffers
[11:13] <\sh> Swap:   979956k total,    92616k used,   887340k free,   228532k cached
[11:13] <\sh> Riddell: I honestly don't know where he looked at...
[11:14] <\sh> and evolution eats more cpu time then amarok when it starts to check for mail on imap servers ...
[12:02] <\sh> ok...amarok 1.3.2 looks ok for me :)