[12:00] well, just installed means still a buggy version ;) === zieuujoo [n=edqziy@86.104.125.1] has joined #ubuntu [12:00] that's not going to work [12:00] when is firefox 1.0.7 is gonna be out in repos? [12:00] permission denied [12:00] (random question) [12:00] Linner, sudo apt-get update [12:00] unable to lock the administration directory [12:00] shinu, asap === zieuujoo is now known as aaerSeiZ [12:00] are you root? [12:00] priscilla: well it should work [12:00] Seveas: right :) === aaerSeiZ [n=edqziy@86.104.125.1] has left #ubuntu [] [12:00] What's the command to look in a file, using the terminal? [12:00] i need sudo first huh? [12:00] copland, ? [12:00] i get that when i have another apt session running [12:01] i figured it out [12:01] at least the apt get part [12:01] Linner: Do you have aptitude or something like that open in another term= [12:01] linner: try sudo -s [12:01] that will keep u as root [12:01] ubotu, opera8.5 is broken in breezy, if you want to install it, there is a patched .deb available at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/breezy-extras/opera_8.50-20050916.5-shared-qt_en_breezy_patch_i386.deb [12:01] okay, funkyHat [12:01] gt500k: a txt file or what? gedit then the filename [12:01] boxerboy29, that's bad [12:01] sudo -i is better :) [12:01] boxerboy29: it's all upgrading and installing now [12:01] i heard other way around about a weeek ago [12:01] Seveas: it's going to take some time there are 302 updates === peMaUaiSv [n=edqziy@86.104.125.1] has joined #ubuntu [12:01] Seveas i installed the package you mentions, it instaleld a few with it. it still says that iostream: No such file or directory [12:02] h08817 no just like a folder to see the contnts [12:02] < where do i go from here? === peMaUaiSv [n=edqziy@86.104.125.1] has left #ubuntu [] [12:02] ThePyromaniac, then either your code is bad or you're compiling it the wrong way :) [12:02] cd folder then ls [12:02] again: is 192 MB good for running ubuntu on a celeron 550 mhz laptop? is there any compromise that needs to be reached? [12:02] wow i'm stupid [12:02] seveas: that site you gave me the realplayer part was for ppc [12:02] Linner, once the updates are installed, run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [12:03] Linner, that's just to be sure you missed nothing [12:03] gt500k: its ok [12:03] and after that: reboot [12:03] well the code and the compilation were both taken from an example site seveas [12:03] ThePyromaniac, url? [12:03] Hi again. what is the best way to install the package w32codecs? the repository ubuntu-backports doesn't contain that package anymore. [12:03] Seveas: ok... i can do that === elDuart1 [n=daniel@186-170-28.adsl.terra.cl] has left #ubuntu [] === stormie [n=stormie@CPE000ea6afd152-CM000a735c2320.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu === cas_ [n=cas@86.81.223.219] has joined #ubuntu [12:03] seveas: is ther ea program in synaptic for music in websites? [12:03] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31821.html [12:03] boxerboy29, mozilla-mplayer [12:04] boxerboy29: were you in here earlier this morning (I'm in California) [12:04] seveas thank you [12:04] linner yes [12:04] boxerboy29: i thought you "looked" familiar [12:04] ive been here all day :( [12:04] sounds painfully familiar === vLkKti [n=edqziy@86.104.125.1] has joined #ubuntu [12:04] ThePyromaniac, I see no code there and several bad compilation instructions.... === vLkKti [n=edqziy@86.104.125.1] has left #ubuntu [] [12:04] hi everyone [12:05] seveas i got the code from another page, oop. i just changed my extention to cpp from c. can you tell im a n00b? [12:05] ThePyromaniac, kinda [12:05] wow with 429 people just in this room, you'd think that Linux would be considered a serious competitor and manus would make the right drivers for it [12:05] seveas can you show me a link to a GOOD example and a GOOD command and i can take it from there [12:05] well everyone standby I am going to try to install ubuntu again even though i think it will die [12:05] read a c++ primer :) [12:06] a what? [12:06] seveas mplayer does both music and video? [12:06] i am putting it on my xp hd and i have 98 on my other and hopefully linux can bring them all together === meuserj|work [n=meuserj|@64.72.138.21] has joined #ubuntu [12:06] boxerboy29: yes, it does :) [12:06] boxerboy29: I use it on my desktop [12:06] hot damn [12:06] brb [12:06] boxerboy29: it works extremely well [12:06] seveas ohh, a book right. well i know HOW to in .NET. im not a spaz, i just cant do the command line ^^ [12:06] shawarma, thanks [12:07] linner and seveas thank you its installing === cr4sh__ [n=Cr4sh@host-84-9-84-219.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu === NetGeek [n=dbasinge@stffp11-208.staff.library.utah.edu] has joined #ubuntu [12:07] boxerboy29: hey, I have a lot to pay back with all the help I've gotten in here. :) === Milk_ [n=amshake@12-221-205-99.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:07] is there anyway to update extension in Firefox? [12:07] Anyone have any idea why my 2nd monitor has a yellow tinge when using twinview === ablyss [n=foobar17@68-190-35-8.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:08] linner you still working on the x windows? [12:08] yeah [12:08] it's still installing and downloading [12:08] i had 304 updates [12:08] i was :) when i got it done a few hours ago [12:08] auto-update still does not worK? [12:08] boxerboy29: yeah I hear ya'... I'm on my fifth install [12:08] :( [12:09] i've been working on this for a solid 24 hours [12:09] Well time to ^Z here, 'night folks [12:09] btw, when a compiler says "cannot find X11 development files", what are these? [12:09] Seveas: thank you so much have a great evening === deevo [n=linuxclu@ppp-217-133-1-186.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu [12:09] and what is the name to download them? [12:09] linner: i installed breezy like 4 or 5 times till i got it fixed [12:09] could sync or refresh cause color problems? [12:09] boxerboy29: sounds like you and i are in the same boat [12:10] i kept getting font errors and it wouldnt load X [12:10] hi everybody ..what's this chat room about ? [12:10] boxerboy29: ok... i was getting those too [12:10] deevo, ubuntu support [12:10] boxer: they helped me about that earlier [12:10] Anyone have any idea why my 2nd monitor has a yellow tinge when using twinview === erUSUL [n=chatzill@im-132.arrakis.es] has joined #ubuntu [12:10] me too [12:10] deevo: only ubuntu help [12:10] there is an offtopic forum too #ubuntu-offtopic [12:10] Linner, all these errors should be fixed as of 15:00 this afternoon :) [12:10] linner: whats the synaptic 's name for X11 develment files? [12:10] 3:00 my time? === paul124897 [n=paul@ACCA6A60.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:11] Cesarin, xorg-dev [12:11] thanks [12:11] 15:00 UTC [12:11] Seveas: phew.. thank you! [12:11] Seveas: go to bed now... :) [12:11] :) [12:11] we need you with a fresh head tomorrow [12:11] :) [12:11] :0 its not working on my site [12:11] boxerboy29, you might need an additional dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [12:12] Seveas: what are all these errors coming from? [12:12] weird, I cant find those [12:12] just from the nightly builds? [12:12] brb [12:12] udev mess === dedalo [n=ubuntu@81-202-208-71.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:12] oh yuck [12:12] and ficing it made things worse [12:12] oh okay [12:12] but today the correct fix was found :) === nekko [n=administ@pc-158-185-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:12] hey guys [12:12] fantasticv [12:12] paul124897: hello [12:12] seveas this is gonna sound stupid but after the bs this mornong is there an easy way to do that? [12:12] know of a good alarm clock system for linux to help wake me up on a morning? [12:12] Linner: Don't worry. It's not normal for Breezy. You just tried on a REALLY bad day. :-D [12:13] im having problems mounting my ntfs partition on Ubuntu, can anyone help me out? (ive tried using the shell ubotu suggests, same problem) [12:13] boxerboy29, in a console you can update/upgrade/reconfigure too :) [12:13] !ntfs [12:13] I heard ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions. [12:13] shawarma: well the thing was i wasn't installing with an internet connection this morning === Shufla [n=shufla@cfr87.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu === kataklysm [n=Deathbyk@h226.170.140.67.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:13] seveas i did that thats all fixed [12:13] shawarma: so I don't know of the problems people were having this morning [12:13] mmm sorry if this has been asked plenty times but what's the backup url for the ubuntu forums ? [12:13] stormie, before running that script first unmount the drive and remove it from fstab [12:13] its the mplayer thats not working [12:13] ayuda [12:13] estan alli [12:13] know of a good alarm clock system for linux to help wake me up on a morning? [12:13] i didn't realize it was required until about 10a this morning [12:13] dodgy script.. [12:13] boxerboy29, ah :) [12:14] tengo problemas para instalar firefox [12:14] para actualizarlo [12:14] ao=esd (in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf) [12:14] nekko: Este canal no es espanol. [12:14] nekko, please stick to english in here [12:14] boxerboy29: it's not working???? [12:14] <[LethAL] > !es [12:14] Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. === Shufla [n=shufla@cfr87.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === Stonie [n=stonie@cpe-069-134-182-097.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:14] nope not on one of my sites its not [12:14] oh gosh === DaaJeH [n=DaaJeH@bgp01139609bgs.ypwest01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:14] i'm confused... you say one of your sites? [12:15] nekko: Si quieres ayuda tienes que hablar ingles. [12:15] can anyone tell me how to get an ATI X800 XL to work? [12:15] Hello [12:15] paul124897: cron and mplayer? [12:15] shawarma, didn't know you speak spanish :) [12:15] Stonie: I might be wrong... but we were trying to help me install an ATI 200M this morning using another driver called vesa [12:15] yes i have a few websites im working on one now and i have sound on the site but i cant hear it it tells me to get plug ins [12:15] shawarma, btw, did you get my mail? [12:15] Seveas: You'd be surprised. :-D [12:15] How do I install a realplayer? [12:16] boxerboy29, ah you need w32codecs [12:16] Seveas: Your mail? Hmm.. When was this? === ShadeZeRO [n=ShadeZeR@adsl-067-035-119-213.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:16] shawarma, few days ago about membership [12:16] Seveas: was I right for stonie's question? [12:16] hi. [12:16] are you an Ubuntu member? [12:16] No... [12:16] i need the jre but cant get it :( [12:16] !tell Stonie about ati [12:16] I was wondering if i could get some help... [12:16] Seveas: Er... I remember getting a mail I figured was kind of automated... No, I'm not a member. Yet, anyway. [12:16] shawarma, k :) [12:16] ShadeZeRO: Just ask. [12:16] bummer [12:16] you should become one :) [12:17] I was trying :) [12:17] seveas why is it i have this feeling thats not gonna be easy? [12:17] lol [12:17] boxerboy29, it is gonna be easy === keifer [n=keifer@123.43.cm.sunflower.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:17] you can download it from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl [12:17] Anyone have any idea why my 2nd monitor has a yellow tinge when using twinview [12:17] Seveas: I know. I just think I need to do more work before "they" will let me. :-D [12:17] i require assistance :( severe problems here lol [12:17] shawarma, I don't think you'll have a problem ;) [12:17] Well basically...my HD's are screwed, i got some wicked bad virus, now i BSOD on anything, and Safemode doesn't work either anymore (win XP)...I have ubuntu Live here...and I load it up in failsafe (messed up in regular)..and I want to backup some files to a 2nd hd I have in there... [12:18] Seveas: Really? === pauldaoust [n=administ@S01060080c8b49157.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:18] but it says the 2nd HD is a 'read only' drive...how would I undo that...OR How could I burn a DVD with Ubuntu? === jliss [n=jliss@pcp0011741335pcs.owngsm01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:18] Seveas: What the hey... I'll show up a the next CC meeting then. [12:18] shawarma, unless i'm mistaking you for someone else you've been active for quite some time already :) === leopard [n=charm@toronto-HSE-ppp4020794.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [12:18] hello === markus [n=mkhhh@licia.dtek.chalmers.se] has left #ubuntu [] === jliss [n=jliss@pcp0011741335pcs.owngsm01.md.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:19] Seveas: No, that sounds just about right. [12:19] hey folks... quick question about sudo, that I can't find info on in its man page: does anyone know why, when I issue a command in sudo, it pretends the current working directory is "/"? [12:19] anyway, I really gotta ^Z now [12:19] Seveas :-) [12:19] bye [12:19] Seveas Sleep tight. [12:19] Seveas, is there a way to see my linux partition from win XP? === Stonie [n=stonie@cpe-069-134-182-097.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] === L|nu}{ [n=linux@studpc32.thndorm.htu.se] has joined #ubuntu [12:19] pauldaoust: What makes you think it does that? [12:19] lui, yes [12:20] pauldaoust: What does "sudo pwd" say? [12:20] lui google for ext2ifs [12:20] lui - it did't see it? (it should) === uzman_kurt [n=xxl@85.101.176.137] has joined #ubuntu [12:20] shawarma: at present, /home/administrator [12:20] funkyHat, ok [12:20] oh wait.. i r dumb [12:20] ne oli la [12:20] shawarma: so it seems to resolve the whole pathname [12:20] trk yokmu burda [12:20] ... [12:20] nobody knows? [12:20] lui - I was thinking XP from linux [12:20] great, but then I can see all my files? === Juul [n=Scirkuit@82.211.214.205] has joined #ubuntu [12:21] pauldaoust: Yes... [12:21] shawarma: well, here's what happens. if I go 'Run command...' and then type in 'gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' it'll create a new file called 'xorg.conf' in my home directory [12:21] Carlk, ok :P [12:21] lui - yes, if you install the ext driver for windows, which is really new [12:21] Carlk, see ubotu's message: [12:21] !ntfs [12:21] methinks ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions. [12:21] where is /etc/ld.so.conf in ubuntu (breezy) ? === benplaut [n=benplaut@72.42.42.185] has joined #ubuntu [12:21] excellent! thanks guys [12:21] ShadeZeRO: I'm not sure I caught your question? [12:21] lui - don't go.. let me find a URL [12:21] Oh [12:21] it was long [12:21] Should I copy paste it === JosephB [n=ck@S0106000c41e47727.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:22] Carlk, oh, ok thank you === sexcopter8000m [n=NNSCRIPT@82-34-47-19.cable.ubr01.chel.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === [A] ndy80 [n=andy80@host214-117.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [12:22] you can do C++ in mono right? it mentions C# but...? ^^ [12:22] ShadeZeRO: I got the description of the broken disks and the live CD... I just missed the last bit, I think. [12:22] Well, i Loaded up THe live Disk ... [12:22] sorry Carlk, i don't really know who's asking who what, so if you didn't need to know that... yeah :P [12:22] How can I startup programs by userlogin, e.g. beagled? [12:23] and I want to copy files from one HD to another [12:23] hey ppl. anyone else having trouble with Xorg2? I can't get it to start up since the last dist-upgrade [12:23] shawarma: additionally, I've written an update script for a bunch of computers in the network I administer, that does various things each day (e.g., install a new package or lock down the panel for basic users). I basically have a symlink /etc/cron.daily/update-common --> /scripts/update-common (which is the updater script) [12:23] but, it says one HD is a 'read only' drive === jason [n=jason@pool-151-204-69-180.delv.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:23] ShadeZeRO: Ubuntu says that? [12:23] Which is the drive I want to copy stuff too... [12:23] Yes... [12:23] I run failsafe mode [12:23] ShadeZeRO: And you absolutely sure it's not CD-rom or something like that? [12:23] hdg1 [12:23] I can see the files on the 2nd drive [12:23] i have a grub error [12:24] ShadeZeRO, is it NTFS? [12:24] Yes [12:24] it says error 18 [12:24] With alot of backups [12:24] !grub [12:24] grub is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows [12:24] ShadeZeRO, you can't write to an NTFS partition in Linux [12:24] is this chat logged? [12:24] Aww... [12:24] do you guys recommend installing windows AFTER breezy is up and running? [12:24] How about burning a DVD? [12:24] before === BlueT_ [n=matthew@203-73-56-149.adsl.dynamic.seed.net.tw] has joined #Ubuntu [12:24] ShadeZeRO, should be able to do that fine [12:24] How would I do that [12:24] before???? [12:24] ShadeZeRO: Put a blank one in, and watch. [12:24] really........ [12:25] shoot [12:25] shawarma: today, my update-common script is supposed to untar a file into /home/student (basic uprivileged user), but when I test it out by going sudo /scripts/update-common, it always untars the file into the current working directory [12:25] I have posted the URL to the site that has "ext2 fs drivers for windows" (maybe I should google that [12:25] ubotu, grub is also troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting [12:25] Seveas: okay [12:25] linner: thats what i was always told [12:25] ShadeZeRO, yeah.. what shawarma said [12:25] shawarma: and that's why I think sudo has problems :) [12:25] boxerboy29: what's the reasoning do you remember? [12:25] if you install it afterwards you need to restore grub with a livecd [12:25] pauldaoust: I would need to see the script to say anything clever about it. [12:25] linner: boot loader [12:25] But I seriously have to catch some sleep too. === Linner wants to pull her hair out [12:25] Ok, i put one in [12:25] how can i set a DNS IP so that dhcp won't overwrite it? [12:25] Seveas: I thought you were going to bed!!! [12:26] I have 3 drives mind you (1 dvd rom, 1 cdrw, 1 dvdrw [12:26] Linner, so did I [12:26] linner: winblows boot loader isnt worth a damn [12:26] Carlk, need to go , thanks for the help [12:26] ok damnit apt-get hates my guts today === akuma_ [n=akuma@12-226-118-30.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:26] ShadeZeRO: Shouldn't be a problem. [12:26] lui - loook around for "ext2 fs drivers for windows" [12:26] Carlk, http://pastebin.com/370390 [12:26] when you have time ;l [12:26] Seveas: ok.. so what are the reprocussions if I install it afterwards? === Fearan [n=Fearan@pool-68-239-133-176.nwrk.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:26] after recompiling kernel i have an error while boot up "device-mapper: error adding target to table... [12:27] ShadeZeRO, assuming you are in Gnome.. it should open up a window that you can drag your files to and then burn === akuma_ is now known as thedevilsjester [12:27] ubotu, dns-dhcp is Using static DNS with DHCP: http://pastebin.com/370390 [12:27] Seveas: okay [12:27] linner: trying to get to boot from one or the other [12:27] if you install it afterwards you need to restore grub with a livecd <-- Linner [12:27] Seveas: ok so all my updates are finished and I'm STILL getting the failed to start the X server [12:27] anybody have any idea why i DIDN'T have any problems upgrading to breezy? [12:27] Seveas: is it difficult? [12:27] hmm [12:27] Linner did you reboot? [12:27] nope? [12:27] great, i cant get mono working because it constantly harps for packages synaptic doesnt have, so i install manually and it still doesnt see it... and i can get command line compilation to work. i have a whole book-worth of useless examples with no mention of how to compile code.... anyone here a C++ programmer? [12:27] Seveas: no... [12:27] Seveas, that wuold be great but my $15 internet box apparently won't resove that ;) [12:27] Linner, no, the wiki has clear instructions [12:27] Seveas: i thought that was a windows thing [12:27] Linner, then reboot :) === sexcopter8001m [n=NNSCRIPT@82-34-47-19.cable.ubr01.chel.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:27] Seveas: got it... will remember it [12:27] Seveas, but I can make it work one more time... [12:27] Seveas: okey dokey [12:27] anybody have any idea why i DIDN'T have any problems upgrading to breezy? [12:27] ShadeZeRO, are you sure it's blank, and that you put it in the correct drive? [12:28] Linner, in case of errors rebooting still is useful sometimes :) [12:28] Seveas: great [12:28] Fearan: When did you do it? [12:28] hope it works [12:28] yes [12:28] Fearan, you upgraded on an error-free time [12:28] shawarma: saturday [12:28] i like the new ubuntu graphic ... really nice [12:28] shawarma: http://pastebin.com/370439 [12:28] today has been a bad day for upgrading :) [12:28] ok seveas apt get doesnt work anymore ive tried apt-get install everything === uglysmurf [n=uglysmur@64.178.96.148.dynamic.dejazzd.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:28] Seveas: and for new installs! [12:28] ;) [12:28] Fearan: That's why, then. The breakage (the majer udev one) was only for a few hours today. [12:29] shawarma, the udev/X was a lingering thing [12:29] Seveas: ok.. nope.. that did do ti.. same problem [12:29] does anyone have any ideas how to fix the grub error 18 or know what it means? [12:29] I put another blank in, nothing... [12:29] can't start the x server [12:29] Seveas: meaning? [12:29] shawarma: ok, but i also got some updates from the breezy server [12:29] ho8817: reinstall it [12:29] shawarma: today [12:29] in that case I give up for now and REALLY go to sleep [12:29] ShadeZeRO, well... open up a nautilus window and go to Go->CD/DVD Creator [12:29] or use conlony 3 [12:29] boxerboy29: wish it was that easy [12:29] Seveas: thanks! [12:29] :( [12:29] Seveas: You do that. Catch you later. [12:29] lol [12:30] gtg [12:30] night Seveas [12:30] ;) [12:30] i get grub 18 on my colony 4 cd [12:30] c ya every1 [12:30] boxerboy29: so how can i fix it [12:30] ShadeZeRO, drag your files there and then click "write to disc" when you are done.. and choose your DVDRW drive on the next dialog [12:30] so i use my colony 3 cd [12:30] boxerboy29: shawarma so I did the updates that Seveas recommended ... rebooted... same error... failed to start the X Server [12:30] hey, has anyone ever had a new 'Debian' menu appear in the 'Applications' menu? it's very weird and annoying, and it appeared I believe after I installed tuxpaint. strange thing is that it duplicates a lot of the menu entries that already appear in other folders, and also lists a lot of entries for programs that aren't even installed. [12:30] well i don't have the official cd [12:30] i downloaded the install image and burned it to cd [12:30] download it and burn it [12:31] pauldaoust: yes, that's the menu package. [12:31] pauldaoust, you should be able to get rid of that with smeg [12:31] so i don't think the cd i have will boot to linux it will just boot ot hte installer [12:31] pauldaoust: err, menu-xdg [12:31] crimsun, meuserj|work: thanky :) [12:31] boxerboy29: did you see my question? [12:31] pauldaoust, np [12:32] linner: did it ask you if you wanted to keep the old "package" cant remember what it was === dedalo [n=ubuntu@81-202-208-71.user.ono.com] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] === alex_ [i=alex@ool-4573a0a2.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:32] no [12:32] Hey all. [12:32] it didn't at all [12:32] just installed a bunch of junk [12:32] I am having serious issues with Breezy. [12:32] and then took me to the root login [12:32] I _JUST_ upgraded 500 packages. [12:32] alex_: we all are [12:32] lol @ junk [12:32] Now when I do apt-get upgrade, it wants me to redo them all over again. [12:32] Seveas, how did you make it hightlight? it=http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?show=370390 [12:32] All my shit is missing. [12:32] I see smeg isn't in the hoary repository yet :'-( [12:32] Carlk: I think he went to bed. [12:33] pauldaoust: it won't ever be in Hoary. [12:33] How do I go about switching back to Horay? [12:33] pauldaoust, just install the deb :P [12:33] crimsun: ah :) [12:33] Linner, rats. [12:33] Breezy just sucks too badly :/ [12:33] 'bye [12:33] pauldaoust: Hoary was released in April. No new software goes into a released version. Period. === yereth [n=yereth@h104157.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:33] hi al [12:33] l [12:33] crimsun: duh, sorry :) I knew that too [12:33] linner: after you rebooted did it give you a diagnostic window? [12:33] Carlk, what did he highlight? [12:33] boxerboy29: yes [12:33] crimsun: bad habits left over from Gentoo ;) [12:33] boxerboy29: i even tried installing lilo but lilo locks up on the first boot too === arkanes [n=arkanes@ip24-254-36-127.br.br.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:34] can anyone give me a hint how I can make apt downgrade from breezy to hoary? [12:34] same $hit, different process :) === charles [n=charles@eccr224-179-dhcp.colorado.edu] has joined #ubuntu [12:34] yereth: man apt_preferences === alex_ is now known as alex323 [12:34] h08817: if you google for grub error 18 it will show you i cant rtemember what it said off top of head [12:34] so my gnome-print-manager won't display any drivers anymore (while I am trying to setup network printing) [12:34] umm [12:34] crimsun: can I use this pin-priority? [12:34] yereth: certainly [12:34] how do u open up a nautalist window -_-'' [12:34] boxerboy29: i already tried that [12:34] shawarma: incidentally, disregard line 5 of the pastebin thingy I sent you; it's just a first-time thingy to actually install itself in /etc/cron.daily [12:34] crimsun: I assume I have to create this preferences file myself === chavo [n=chavo@217.sub-70-196-175.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:35] linner: the [WW] were they font or moniter or card? [12:35] Anybody? I need to downgrade to Horay before I fucking kill Breezy. [12:35] yereth: yes [12:35] heh [12:35] crimsun: cheers :) [12:35] alex323: see what yereth's asking. [12:35] :) === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@r4bf204.chello.upc.cz] has joined #ubuntu [12:35] What was his question? [12:36] h08814: 18 : "Invalid or unsupported executable format" [12:36] boxerboy29: well i found something [12:36] Meuser [12:36] boxerboy29: it said that my hd is too big for my bios [12:36] alex323: 00:31 < yereth> can anyone give me a hint how I can make apt downgrade from breezy to hoary? [12:36] Are you still there?? [12:36] I dont knwo howto open up nautalisk' [12:36] boxerboy29: it says i have to install linux to the beginning of the hd well how the heck do i do that? [12:36] whats on that harddrive? [12:37] hey, am I missing something with sudo? whenever I try to run certain scripts, sudo always does its work in the current working directory instead of the directory it's supposed to. [12:37] most likey u will want to read up on the 1024 problem [12:37] i cant think of what its called [12:37] cylinder 1024 [12:38] boxerboy29: well already on hte hd is windows xp [12:38] How can I use windows.h in WINE? [12:38] ex: http://pastebin.com/370439 ... at one point, this script is supposed to untar a file into someone's home directory. when I go 'sudo /scripts/update-common.sh' (which is where the above file is located) it untars the file into . === stormie [n=stormie@CPE000ea6afd152-CM000a735c2320.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu [] === skara [n=skaramun@toronto-HSE-ppp4088629.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [12:38] its something about linux has to be installed on first 1024 cylinders === bahamut_ [n=bahamut@c-24-98-229-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:39] i hate to say this but i dont remeber how to do that === zyph [n=john@adsl-69-209-74-143.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:39] linner: do u have an ati video card? [12:39] oh thank god i'm finally on === delire [n=delire@port225.ds1-oebr.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu === surfdue_ [n=surfdue@user-0c6t1rl.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:39] oh i'm having so many problems [12:40] so my gnome-print-manager won't display any drivers anymore (while I am trying to setup network printing) [12:40] arnt we all [12:40] i'm in terminal [12:40] i'm not :) [12:40] i have no x [12:40] nor me! === ironwolf [n=ironwolf@c-67-188-204-176.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:40] ok guys, anyone knows how to modify the conf file? the file seems LOCKED ( the xorg.conf ) [12:40] delire, zyph, you both on breezy? [12:40] i did apt-get dist-upgrade [12:40] i'm on breezy [12:40] :( i can remember the grub 18 error but i cant install codecs === __icebreaker_ [n=askme@dsl-084-060-143-051.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:40] yeah x is totally fsked up now [12:40] Cesarin: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf [12:40] well i found info on the error [12:40] thank you delire [12:41] well it's the mouse [12:41] boxerboy29: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB [12:41] zyph, try upgrading again, there is a very recent new release of udev or something which might fix it [12:41] there is no mouse, there's no device === sociopath [n=kspencer@204-101-205-72.anikast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:41] Cesarin: as it's a system file, you need to have permissions (a linux system can have many users you know) .. [12:41] im a member there [12:41] zyph, if not, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [12:41] i tried like 3 times funkyHat === duce [n=duce@p50899937.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [12:41] funkyHat, did that [12:41] :( [12:41] so does anyone in here know how to install linux to the first 1024 cylinders of a hardrive? [12:41] ill bbl [12:41] funkyHat, i have no mouse device [12:41] funkyHat: <-- debian here, hoary at work. === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@p54AFAECB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [12:42] delire: im the only one using this machine :P [12:42] oh, delire, were you saying 'nor me!' in reply to my statement, or zyph's? [12:42] ok thanks delire, now I have to wonder how to enable my mousewell and the extra buttons it does have [12:42] i'm just glad i got irc figured out [12:42] !1024 [12:42] h08817: Do they come in packets of five? [12:42] ubotu, yes === snausages [i=vr@212-108.200-68.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:42] Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, h08817? [12:42] its a Optical intellimouse explorer v.3 === zeke1 [i=Jackspar@tbnb-165-206-99.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu [12:43] Cesarin: not from a hackers perspective you're not ;) a unix system has a 'god' (root) account and user accounts. [12:43] 1024 cylinders [12:43] well then I AM GOD!!! :O === didymo [n=ashley@CPE-61-9-197-223.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === fredforfaen [n=Morrari@216-134-9.0502.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu === Cesarin adds dramatic shadows, thunderbolts & stuff [12:43] funkyHat: nor me to yours ;) === EdgEy [n=edgey@adsl-83-100-138-22.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #ubuntu === EdgEy [n=edgey@adsl-83-100-138-22.karoo.KCOM.COM] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:43] Cesarin: muarharhar. [12:43] how do you setup the network in ubuntu cause mine cant even find an eth device [12:43] Anyone here code C++? [12:43] delire, : well any idea how to change the options of the mouse? :o [12:44] where can I download winelib, not wine? [12:44] Cesarin: what is wrong with your mouse? [12:44] funkyHat, how do i creat a mouse device? [12:44] delire, ah :) [12:44] actual options are "configured mouse" [12:44] delire: 5 button+mousewhell [12:44] the whell doesnt work [12:44] ThePyromaniac: yes, but perhaps #c++ is the best place to ask C++ questions? [12:44] nor does the "back, and forward" buttons [12:44] how do you setup the network in ubuntu cause mine cant even find an eth device [12:44] anybody know [12:44] zekel: using breezy on X? [12:45] Cesarin: ahah.. do you have the option Enable 3 Buttons set in your config? === kuroishinzoo [n=kuroishi@catv-priv-17.xpress.se] has joined #ubuntu === a8514 [n=John@49.Red-81-36-125.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:45] delire I am not asking C++ questions, im asking if anyone can help me to compile in ubuntu here ^^ [12:45] but thanks [12:45] nope [12:45] Cesarin: the option is " Option "Emulate3Buttons" [12:45] nope, that line is not there [12:45] Hej / Hi [12:45] can anyone tell me how to make a device? [12:45] i'm at wits end here [12:45] Cesarin: the whole line should actually be : Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true" === erUSUL [n=chatzill@212.59.212.185] has joined #ubuntu [12:46] but why "emulate"? if it does have 5 button + mousewhell :P [12:46] Cesarin: find the section "InputDevice" and add it. === Zodiac [n=nicholas@69-161-72-233.bflony.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:46] hello guys [12:46] i have a problem [12:46] hi Zodiac [12:46] What package do I need in order to burn audio CDs with k3B? [12:47] Cesarin: whats breezy? [12:47] zekel: version of ubuntu? o_O [12:47] below input device of the mouse? [12:47] Cesarin: 5.04 [12:47] im a new user of ubuntu, and i have never used linux before... and now i have some problems with the gnome packages.. [12:47] K3B used to throw an error if it wasn't there, but now it doesnt [12:47] 64 [12:47] Cesarin: yes it is a bit weird.. the wheel is the third button. my intellimouse is also up and running with: Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" and protocol: Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" [12:47] Zodiac, cdrtools i think [12:47] above "configured mouse" ? [12:48] You sure zyph? [12:48] Zodiac, not really [12:48] Zodiac, lol [12:48] doH! [12:48] ok, added emulate 3rd button [12:48] kuroishinzoo, what's wrong ? [12:48] Cesarin: v5.04 64bit [12:48] Zodiac: you don't need an extra package i believe.. [12:48] I remember is sounding differnt [12:48] well [12:48] how to install to beginning of hd? [12:48] zekel: breezy = 5.10 [12:48] Zodiac, there's a good chance that package will link the one that K3b does need [12:48] when I try to burn mp3z, it tells me it cant [12:48] delire, you do [12:48] Cesarin: be careful and make sure it looks just like the other options in that same block of lines. === Bicchi [n=Bicchi@adsl-065-006-167-199.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:48] Cesarin: so how do i fix that [12:48] funkyHat: oh.. [12:49] Idid, lined up everything === FruityLoop [n=jeffrey@p54AE9826.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [12:49] !install [12:49] I heard install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation [12:49] Cesarin: good, no extra quotes and things.. [12:49] zekel: no idea, I'm a noob using Breezy, but I had a problem with networking at start [12:49] synaptic is teh shiznat [12:49] ok, then should I log out and then press control + alt + backstpace? [12:50] doh [12:50] That wasnt it [12:50] hmmm [12:50] I had it in Hoary [12:50] zyph: I agree,m a lot of stuff should be there, and cant find them.. [12:50] like flash's plugin [12:50] Cesarin: really it is best to back up your old config first. maybe you should undo these changes and then do this? === kuroishinzoo [n=kuroishi@catv-priv-17.xpress.se] has joined #ubuntu [12:50] ok so anybody know how to fix or setup a network in ubuntu without breezy?? [12:50] I have to remember to write this crap down [12:50] is it possible to install linux to the beginning of hte drive if windows is already installed? [12:50] wouldn't hotplug in theory detect and set up my mouse device? [12:50] delire: good idea I supose [12:51] Cesarin: because if it doesn't work, you can be a little screwed and will need to edit this file from a console, using vim or nano. [12:51] Cesarin, just be glad you are in X [12:51] Cesarin, i've been screwed since i updated === FireCat [n=FireCat@pdpc/supporter/active/FireCat] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:51] delire: I know, already passed for that [12:51] Cesarin: hehe ok. [12:51] because the new udev fucked up my mouse :P [12:51] had to rollback [12:51] lol [12:51] took me alot of troublers ( 4 hours ) [12:52] how do i change the permissions to the other harddrives?? [12:52] zyph: actually, I GOT SCREWED [12:52] but some guys helped me to recover [12:52] Cesarin: upgrading to breezy ***prematurely*** i take it ;)? [12:52] Cesarin: oh yeah? share the knowledge! [12:52] i want to access them [12:52] delire: im a total noob of linux man === chase [n=stuart@stuartma.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:52] I just downloaded the CD IMAGE wich I tought was the newest, and _STABLE_ ;P [12:52] burned it, and installed yesterday [12:52] ok so anybody know how to fix or setup a network in ubuntu without breezy?? [12:52] kids, always wanting the latest and greatest ;) [12:52] breezy preview XD === humbraro [n=humbraro@71.39.2.66] has joined #ubuntu [12:52] first I had problems with my videocard ( radeon 9800 pro ) and the monitor frecuency [12:53] zyph: note 'preview' ;) [12:53] *bites delire [12:53] then fixed that, but then the patches fuxed up my mouse, thus X didnt ran :P [12:53] hehe [12:53] *chomp* [12:53] delire: im a windoze guy === __icebreaker_ is now known as _icebreaker_ [12:53] meep [12:53] it's updates fault [12:53] so you know how fast you have to update, if not, you're screwed with new viruses ;) [12:53] it's like, hey you there, update ubuntu [12:53] Cesarin: good for you for diving into this.. [12:53] how do i setup my network and adsl? [12:53] and i'm like no, but it wouldn't be quiet, so i gave in to peer pressure [12:53] delire: well, I want my brain to "grow" === Bicchi [n=Bicchi@adsl-065-006-167-199.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:54] Cesarin: precisely, i understand the urge. [12:54] not just be a bill gate's slave ;) [12:54] Cesarin: and it will with Linux... [12:54] it's so much better to be a slave to linux then... [12:54] ok then.. [12:54] blah === Cesarin grabs his spanking machine [12:54] Cesarin: i switched some 7 years ago from windows and i'm still learning huge amounts. === Cesarin spanks delire [12:54] now help me to install that goodamn flash player :P [12:54] jk lol [12:54] *zyph hides his ass* [12:54] zeke1, do sudo network-admin and see if your network card is there. [12:55] hey i have a question anyone willing to hear it? [12:55] ifconfig anyone? [12:55] h08817: just ask [12:55] brb btw, gotta see if theinfamous X works [12:55] zeke1: man ifconfig [12:55] heh [12:55] i've been for 20 mins and no one even attempts to say yes or no that they can help [12:55] yes i can help [12:55] no i don't know [12:56] ok [12:56] LinuxJones: it says cant find any devices [12:56] ha ha [12:56] h08817: sometimes people are busy or distracted. try again.. [12:56] my brain has fried [12:56] zeke1, do you know what kind of network card you have ? [12:56] h08817: i've been working on this all day and am selfish === aeolist [n=aeolist@ppp172.dialup.ntua.gr] has joined #ubuntu [12:56] yeah i have 2 onboar on nvidia nforce4: one is realtek other is marvel [12:56] what command to know which level are u running for network ? === xTina [n=xTina@p54A24499.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:57] do you know the model of the realtek ? [12:57] who -r ? [12:57] i don't get the udev thing === karen [n=karen@ppp-69-216-232-140.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa187.7.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu === cesarin [n=cesarin@201.138.245.28] has joined #ubuntu [12:57] zeke1, sorry zeke1 ^^ [12:57] well i need to get linux on my 160GB hd and my bios doesn't support ginormous hds and i get a grub error of 18 when i install linux so i found out that i need to install linux to the beginning of my hd the fist 1024 cylinders and I was wondering how do i do that? [12:57] LinuxJones: im not exactly sure right now [12:57] ok apes, here I am === mode/#ubuntu [+o crimsun] by ChanServ [12:58] zeke1, do lspci and see if it lists the realtek card model === ..[topic/#ubuntu:crimsun] : Prefer Tagalog? #ubuntu-ph | udev fixed in Breezy | Official Ubuntu Help channel | Documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation | Use paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting | Channel logs: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ | General chatter: #ubuntu-offtopic | Found a bug? report it: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ | Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes === mode/#ubuntu [-o crimsun] by crimsun === erUSUL [n=chatzill@212.59.212.185] has joined #ubuntu [12:58] holy shit batman..... Rita is now cat 5 [12:58] cesarin: yeah i know [12:58] LinuxJones: ok gotta log in again to linux will be back === Chambers_ [n=Thom@pcp02906040pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:58] so how do i do this udev thing? [12:59] zeke1, ok === Dethread [n=Dethread@24-205-238-53.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] buauajajajaja, the weather doesnt like bush :P [12:59] its stalking all poor guys from new orleans [12:59] zyph: presuming you're running Breezy, just update && upgrade === The_Bastard [n=shane@24-177-148-2.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] h08817: hmm what about partitioning this into two partitions? [12:59] delire: what do u mean [12:59] crimsun: ok, it'll try it then [12:59] crimsun: remember to dont update the UDEV version === konfuzed [n=konfuzed@H129.C72.B0.tor.eicat.ca] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] or it will destroy your "X" [12:59] can ubunt use RPMs or Tarballs? [01:00] ubuntu even [01:00] h08817: you want to put Linux onto this 160GB disk? [01:00] delire: the mouse doesnt seem to work :/ [01:00] should I just restart my computer completely? [01:00] The_Bastard, what are you trying to install / [01:00] i do do that i have xp on part of it and then i create a partition for linux and on hte first boot i get the error 18 [01:00] cesarin: you managed to get into X? [01:00] yeha [01:00] some network monitoring stuff [01:00] cirmsun: public key is not available? [01:00] after the install [01:00] The_Bastard: it can but you should not use them [01:00] Iloged out, then pressed control + alt + backstpace [01:00] then loged in again [01:00] and it didnt do anything :P [01:01] ok [01:01] The_Bastard, which programs they nmight be in the universe or multiverse repositories [01:01] running fine, but I dont see any changes [01:01] cesarin: hmm, do you have another mouse handy to check whether the wheel works at all? [01:01] The_Bastard: is asking for trauble === ablyss [n=foobar17@68-190-35-8.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:01] cesarin: unplug it and in again. [01:01] cesarin: err, what? [01:01] mouse handy? o_O [01:01] crimsun: what what? o_O [01:01] crimsun: public key is not available? [01:01] delire: ok, will do,brb === narg [n=narg@dsl-65-171-97-57.tcq.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:01] ok then can one of you suggest an app that can monitor usage on my network and help me steal bandwith during lan games === chavo [n=chavo@217.sub-70-196-175.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:01] crimsun what the heck does that mean? [01:02] cesarin: what are you referring to with "remember to dont update the UDEV version"? [01:02] like all the other computers give up bandwith to mine ^_^ === dtamas [n=dtamas@IP-115.c-211.TvNetWork.Hu] has left #ubuntu [] [01:02] zyph: I need more context === haich [n=haich@20.Red-81-39-102.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:02] crimson: I updated that, to .60 version [01:02] the only linuxbox on the net [01:02] Hm... I just tried to use System/Log Out/Hibernate, and I'm still here. [01:02] and it destroyed my X giving me mouse errors [01:02] had to force it to go back to .30 version === pauldaoust [n=administ@S01060080c8b49157.ok.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu [] [01:02] crimsun: i don't know how to output text to irc in console mode [01:02] delire: nope, it still doesnt work [01:02] cesarin: huh? what are you talking about ".30"? [01:03] h08817: short of using some pretty hacky techniques i (others might) don't know of an easy way to install onto the first 1024 cylinders.. why not try upgrading your bios from windows and see if you can get support for such a big disk? [01:03] ...... [01:03] crimsun: UDEV version === bimberi [n=bimberi@DC-244-35.bpb.bigpond.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:03] crimsun: gpg error === Bicchi [n=Bicchi@adsl-065-006-167-199.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:03] 0.060-lubuntu14 is broken [01:03] cesarin: no, 14 is the fixed version [01:03] delire: and how am i supposed to update my bios with a software upgrade? [01:03] at least for me :P [01:03] The_Bastard, how many computers are on your network ? [01:03] can somebody help me?? [01:03] well I refuse to try it again for now heh :P [01:03] well in a lan party upto 30 [01:04] I insalled the .60 yesterday [01:04] and ruined my X :P [01:04] cesarin: what is the exact name of this mouse? [01:04] The_Bastard, you want to lag your opponents ? [01:04] Delire: microsoft intellimouse explorer v3 [01:04] crimsun: apt got messed up [01:04] cesarin: that was ubuntu13. It was fixed in ubuntu14. [01:04] USB mode [01:04] wahoo! the guys at #C++ got me making C++ Code :D! [01:04] ok crimson, then ill check that version later === omp [n=david@66-215-19-141.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:04] kuroishinzoo: ask === eno [n=eno@HSE-Toronto-ppp306522.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:04] h08817: you have a windows partition? if so i would do it using an installer shipped by the motherboard manufacturer. [01:05] crimsun: what is the source list for ubuntu? [01:05] delire: 1 mousewhell, 1 mousewhell button, 2 buttons infront and 2 buttons (foward and back ) on the side [01:05] well that to lol [01:05] zyph: paste the error onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl [01:05] i play diffrent games then them [01:05] cesarin: that is a well supported mouse AFAIK. [01:05] they use windows boxes [01:05] crimsun: i can't, i'm in console, and i don't have mouse services [01:05] and play ragnarok >.< [01:05] dlire: maybe I should update the UDEV? [01:05] which steals butloads of bandwith from my gamers [01:05] games even [01:05] zyph: why don't you have mouse service? === jmont [n=julio@201.2.211.164] has joined #ubuntu [01:06] cesarin: well i am not sure that will do much. does the mouse cursor actually move when you move the mouse? [01:06] crimsun: because i have no mouse device [01:06] delire: o ok i have that cd === GodFather [n=rcc@pcp09006310pcs.watrfd01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === Rylie [n=unnone@65-182-234-130.ccmtc.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:06] crimsun: it got fcked up when i updated [01:06] zyph: no core pointer error? [01:06] so i want to find smething to exploit my network and give me bandwith when i need it [01:06] delire: my motherboard cd and so u think i should just install the cd? [01:06] crimsun: right! === ThePyromaniac [n=ThePyrom@82-46-107-127.cable.ubr02.chap.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === eeeuooZ [n=cpzkeei@86.104.125.120] has joined #ubuntu === eeeuooZ [n=cpzkeei@86.104.125.120] has left #ubuntu [] [01:06] delire, yeah, everything works just fine === P229 [n=P229@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:0:0:0:b] has joined #ubuntu [01:06] except the mousewhell [01:06] zyph: did you ''sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade'' ? === eeeuooZ [n=cpzkeei@86.104.125.120] has joined #ubuntu === eeeuooZ [n=cpzkeei@86.104.125.120] has left #ubuntu [] [01:06] The_Bastard, I'm not helping you do that [01:06] h08817: if your bios doesn't support such big disks then you will be getting mixed messages (or just errors) from grub. [01:06] :) [01:06] the mouse by itself, is detected as a "generic" mouse [01:06] O_o [01:07] crimsun: not sure [01:07] it's my network i set it up [01:07] cesarin: but the wheel doesn't work? [01:07] O_O [01:07] nope [01:07] crimsun: should i? [01:07] neither the forward and back buttons [01:07] just the main buttons [01:07] zyph: then type it at the keyboard now [01:07] and middle [01:07] and it's in my house on my property [01:08] The_Bastard: neither I [01:08] The_Bastard, that's doesn't mean you should be cheating the other players. (This is off-topic conversation BTW) [01:08] omg you guys are so mean [01:08] cesarin: do you have a line like: Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" ... in your xorg.conf? [01:08] crimsun: should it be connecting to us.debian.org? [01:08] yeah === tombs [n=tombs@h141186.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:08] zyph: no, why would it? [01:08] ive got some problems with permissions and so on [01:08] ok well thanx and sorry about the off topic [01:08] crimsun: want me to tell him how I fixed my no core pointer error? === wolki [n=wolki@client418.sg.fr.studentenwohnheim-bw.de] has joined #ubuntu [01:08] crimsun: i think i tried using dselect and it reset all my defaults to debian stable [01:08] kuroishinzoo, permissions on windows partitions ? [01:08] I wrote the instructions on a paper ^ [01:08] cesarin: use my name if you are writing to me so i can see you.. [01:08] kuroishinzoo: you need to be more specific [01:08] delire, okey [01:09] hi! === shackan [n=shackan@host163-46.pool8261.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [01:09] delire, still not used to xchat heh :> [01:09] hi ppl === unf [n=unf@189.Red-83-58-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:09] <--mIRC moron [01:09] The_Bastard, that's ok you can ask in #off-topic [01:09] nas === unf [n=unf@189.Red-83-58-164.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [01:09] zyph: then reset them to the Ubuntu repositories [01:09] cesarin: oks [01:09] kk [01:09] crimsun: still not working === karen is now known as carlk [01:09] i have ubuntu 5.10 and im new on using linux [01:09] anybody who got vlc to spit some audio here ? [01:09] crimsun: how do i do that? [01:09] cesarin: so.. you do have the line: Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" [01:09] is there a way to install a local deb with synaptic? [01:09] zyph: ask the bot, ubotu, about the default repositories. [01:09] delire, yes I do [01:09] i cant access my hdd [01:09] ubotu? [01:09] kuroishinzoo, ok your trying to access files from windows ? [01:09] cesarin: hmm [01:10] kuroishinzoo: are you using the sudo command? [01:10] should it be ImUSB? [01:10] since im using my mouse in USB mode [01:10] where is ubotu? [01:10] i dont have windows on my computer :) === sylvan [n=sylvan@c83-248-105-248.bredband.comhem.se] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:10] shackan: System> Preferences> Sound> uncheck Enable sound server startup, then start vlc [01:10] kuroishinzoo: are you susing sudo or not? :) [01:10] ive tried [01:10] shackan: when you're finished using vlc, reenable that checkbox [01:10] cesarin: and this line? : Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" [01:10] yeah it does [01:10] crimsun: where is ubotu? [01:10] installed vlc, installed vlc-plugin-esd, chosed EsounD as default output module, still no sound -> [00000280] esd audio output error: cannot open esound socket (format 0x00001021 at 44100 Hz) [01:10] cesarin: hmm hmm [01:11] zyph: right here in the channel, why? [01:11] kuroishinzoo, ok what is on /dev/hda ? [01:11] crimsun: i didn't know [01:11] off topic is empty >.< [01:11] shackan: is esd running? [01:11] only the root can access the hdb and hdc [01:11] delire, want me to scratch your goote while you think? :P [01:11] kuroishinzoo: if you are doing something from within a terminal and getting permission errors, make sure you are doing " sudo commandhere " [01:11] ubotu: what are the default repositories? [01:11] zyph: I think you lost me on that one === Fanskap [n=din@h185n1fls304o1038.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:12] whats the command to run eye of gnome? [01:12] ubotu: !repositories [01:12] crimsun: Did you get hit by a windmill? [01:12] crimsun, I forgot to say I already killed esd [01:12] kuroishinzoo: if you don't know already, sudo gives you root permissions === oOuaHW [n=cpzkeei@86.104.125.120] has joined #ubuntu [01:12] GhostFreeman: try eog === oOuaHW is now known as eueoiel [01:12] shackan: then restart esd before you start vlc === eueoiel [n=cpzkeei@86.104.125.120] has left #ubuntu [] [01:12] ubotu: !repositories [01:12] cesarin: your mouse not working? had the same problem today [01:12] ok === eueoiel [n=cpzkeei@86.104.125.120] has joined #ubuntu === erUSUL [n=erusul@212.59.212.185] has joined #ubuntu === eueoiel [n=cpzkeei@86.104.125.120] has left #ubuntu [] [01:12] but i cant access them anywhay [01:12] ubotu: tell me about repositories [01:12] anyway [01:12] eog works [01:12] cesarin: no, my goatee is not free hairware. hmm then in this case, i would ask to see if any one else has this same mouse and then simply consult their xorg.conf. very weird.. [01:12] crimsun, so vlc wants esd running (argh, too many TLA for me :) or not ? === zacch [n=spock@v212-157.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #ubuntu [01:13] shall i use the command in the terminal?? [01:13] wolki: my mouse is working, I fixed it already but it just does the basics, not all buttons [01:13] ubotu: tell me about default repositories [01:13] ubotu: help me dammit === ishtvan22 [n=ishtvan2@MG001.bandwave.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:13] delire: but you sure a usb mouse should be set to "Im PS/2" ? [01:13] shackan: well if you're trying to use the esd output for vlc, yes, it makes sense to have esd running [01:13] and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?highlight=%28repositories%29 <-- default repositories [01:13] cesarin: ok then it's not the same problem. [01:13] now im root [01:13] zyph: see what cesarin pasted [01:13] woki. actuall yI had a fatal error with the mouse [01:13] cesarin: that works for the intellimouse yes. [01:13] but fixed already by going back on the UDEV [01:13] crimsun: console... remember? === befortin [n=befortin@modemcable071.36-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:14] delire: weird.. isnt there a tool to auto force X to autodetect my mouse? === ORiON2012 [n=orion@cpe-70-117-0-232.satx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:14] zyph: so? use w3m [01:14] suckers [01:14] hi, I'm using Breezy Preview - how I can I disable the synaptic icon in Gnome? (in the upper right corner) [01:14] crimsun, it's linux, often what 'makes sense' does not work :) thanks a lot anyway, started esd and same error, I'll see what's wrong here... === befortin [n=befortin@modemcable071.36-81-70.mc.videotron.ca] has left #ubuntu [] [01:14] zacch: right click it [01:14] zacch: disable notifications? o_O [01:14] zacch: should be obvious after that [01:14] shackan: works fine here [01:14] cesarin: why not backup your config and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg === omp [n=david@66-215-19-141.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === sn0n [n=rob@c-24-4-50-62.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:15] delire: because I did that like 20 times , and it didnt worked with the botched UDEV lol [01:15] and im scared to ruin it again :P [01:15] crimsun: so how do i copy that to the next console? [01:15] i want to give all the users permission to the whole computer but how?? [01:15] ORiON2012, I have them disabled already. but the icon still sits there [01:15] Ill install the latest UDEV and we'll see how it goes :P === omp [n=david@66-215-19-141.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:15] cesarin: ok.. sure [01:15] zyph: type it. === battlecat [i=icechat5@pool-71-116-42-151.eriepa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:16] hey, anyone else have the resolution problem when they come back from screensaver sometimes? like.. everything is jumbled on the screen (and only way to fix is Ctrl Shift - +_ [01:16] kuroishinzoo: ****extremely unwise**** [01:16] kuroishinzoo, you do not want to do that... [01:16] nevermind [01:16] hi battlecat [01:16] kuroishinzoo, that's not good :) [01:16] wolki: what problem you have? [01:16] why?? [01:16] and Im leaving to college, will you be here later delire ? [01:16] its only me who work on the computer [01:16] kuroishinzoo, but your online [01:16] kuroishinzoo, anybody could do rm -Rf / and wipe out your computer [01:16] yes === sexcopter8000m [i=no@82-34-41-63.cable.ubr01.chel.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:17] kuroishinzoo: and people on the other side of the earth. [01:17] if ANYTHING malicious happens.. ur.. well.. shit outta luck [01:17] kuroishinzoo, even you by mistake [01:17] can someone using hoary tell me the name of the package in synaptic that starts libqt3 and ends in -mt [01:17] funkyHat, LoL.. are you having a Opera moment ? [01:17] delire, : will you be here later? [01:17] funkyHat: use packages.ubuntu.com to search [01:17] sn0n, i'm reporting the bug that i patched earlier to opera :P [01:17] funkyHat, libqt3c102-mt_3.3.4-3_i386.deb [01:17] cesarin: i write from Europe. very late here. [01:18] thanks :) [01:18] ic, then by tomorrow I supose? === mxpxpod [n=bryan@12-215-144-61.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:18] thats what got opera running for me ;-) === a8514 [n=John@49.Red-81-36-125.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [01:18] cesarin: perhaps.. === DGH [n=DGH@69-174-44-167.chvlva.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:18] delire, well thanks alof for the help anyway [01:18] no doubt they'll fix it when breezy is released, but it can't hurt [01:18] Hm, I have problems in installing (k)ubuntu - X ist starting after the installation, but then nothing else is happening... [01:18] see you guys later === john__UK [n=john@84.13.71.251] has joined #ubuntu [01:18] cesarin: no problem.. [01:18] but how do i give other users permission to access the other hdd then?? [01:18] hey all [01:18] I hopefully will learn how to install the rest of the stuff I do use constantly :P [01:18] bye [01:19] how do I get a fixed DNS IP to be used? (I have been messing with dhclient.conf with no luck) [01:19] im assuming the udev ubuntu14 is the fixed one? [01:19] crimsun, funny, rather than sound, I get a lot of garbage on the console, I assume the sound data goes out actually, but only to the wrong place :D [01:19] they are mounted but i cant access the information on them [01:19] sn0n: well, yes, hence I changed the topic. [01:19] oo.. sry.. lol.. didnt even look [01:19] kuroishinzoo: using the 'user' option in /etc/fstab [01:19] ?? [01:19] !tell kuroishinzoo about WindowsDrives [01:20] can anyone help me explain how to fix totem/gstreamer audio being out of sync? Is the only way to use the xine back end instead? [01:20] kuroishinzoo: eg: "/dev/hda3 /otherdisk vfat ro,user,noauto 0 0" [01:20] DGH: when you figure it out.. let me know.. i hate watching office space like a kung fu movie [01:20] kuroishinzoo: see /etc/fstab. 'fstab == File System TABle [01:21] no doubt [01:21] xine didnt even work [01:21] i did EVERYTHING the manuals said [01:21] I've heard some folks have had luck doing that [01:21] google'd for like 4 days.. [01:21] kuroishinzoo: to enable them to read AND write to that disk you would change 'ro' (Read Only) to 'rw' (Read Write) === j-linux [n=j-linux@pcp647832pcs.mkethn01.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:22] ended up setting up a windows box.. LoL.. [01:22] now i have a win2k running as my media box [01:22] lol [01:22] crimsun: ok it talks about using synaptic, i know how to use synaptic [01:22] have not tried it myself, figure it should work correctly as is or should be scrapped/repackaged 'til it does [01:22] sn0n, my xine works out of the box on hoary whats the problem? [01:22] DGH: xine backend works for most, gstreamer has issues for many [01:22] crimson, you know what i don't care, i'm too hot and too pissed and i need a smoke [01:23] erUSUL, dont worry, it wont get fixed by me telling you, i've done EVERYTHING [01:23] can someone please tell me -- how do i get an "aptitude dist-upgrade" to respect my manually removed packages (IE Kopete0 === b-movie [n=Bad@dsl-084-057-125-160.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:23] ORiON2012: this should be resolved when breezy goes live. [01:23] crimson: i think i'll just shoot my computer [01:23] Is there a keyboard shortcut for opening a terminal? This would be very helpful... [01:23] CTRL+ALT+F1-6 [01:24] when will breezys kernel be compiled with gcc 4? [01:24] /dev/hda3 /otherdisk vfat ro,user,noauto 0 0 [01:24] Octane: if you have manually removed them they won't be upgraded or installed. when you say 'manually' do you mean apt-get remove or dpkg -P or using synaptic? [01:24] delire: totem's gstreamer backend hasn't worked for me for a LONG time and accross 3 diferent distros [01:24] access denied [01:24] Octane, that might not be what j-linux meant [01:24] Octane: I know those, but is there anyway to do it within Gnome? [01:24] j-linux, in System->preferences->key combinations? [01:24] I've noticed the same ORiON2012 [01:24] kuroishinzoo: 'otherdisk' is not meant to be taken literally ;) [01:24] erUSUL: so there is not a special universal keyboard shortcut in Linux? You have to make your own? [01:24] lol [01:25] kuroishinzoo, you mounted ro (read only) change that for rw [01:25] kuroishinzoo: replace that with what ever disk you want people to have access to. as always, use what is written here as a guide ;) [01:25] soory [01:25] figured there may be some obvious fix somewhere though, I guess not. [01:25] sorry [01:25] /dev/hda3 /otherdisk vfat *rw*,user,noauto 0 0 [01:25] kuroishinzoo: hey we're all new once ;) [01:25] when will breezys kernel be compiled with gcc 4? anyone know ? [01:25] delire: i did aptitude remove kopete, but now whenever i do a dist-upgrade it wants to install it again (Along with metapackage kubutnu-desktop) [01:25] anyone know what would be good variables to give to /etc/apt/preferences to make ubuntu downgrade to hoary? [01:25] erUSUL: yes, i told him that. [01:25] j-linux, in linux everything is user configurable [01:25] Octane: ahah, do this 'dpkg -l | grep kopete' [01:25] sn0n: i don't think breezy's kernel will ever be compiled with gcc4, that might be a breezy+1 thing [01:26] j-linux: system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts and make one [01:26] Octane: see anything there? [01:26] delire: rc kopete 3.4.2-0ubuntu3 instant messenger for KDE [01:26] ahh i gotta remove it using dpkg, huh [01:26] subterrific, then how am i suppsed to compile vmware modules to work? or nvidia drivers? [01:26] setting a=stable really high and a=testing low doesn't work.. l=hoary and l=breezy doesn't work either [01:26] anyone? [01:26] erUSUL: that is the great thing about it... :) I was just wondering if there was a preset one, like ALT-f4 closes windows, etc. I'll use the menu and make one [01:26] sn0n: install gcc3.4 === keifer [n=keifer@123.43.cm.sunflower.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:26] You're not supposed to compile nvidia drivers, they're prebuild. === battlecat [i=icechat5@pool-71-116-42-151.eriepa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu [] === alejandro [n=ale21114@ppp-70-248-124-173.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:27] Octane: hmm, see it wasnt removed. this time do this. 'sudo dpkg -P kopete' [01:27] whats up evryone [01:27] i think ur missing my point.. if breezy ships with a gcc 4 and a kernel compiled with gcc 3.4... ALOT of craps gonna be.. broken === brouche [n=bc@cpe-24-90-94-112.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:27] its my first time [01:27] delire: i dont get why an aptitude remove didnt remove it [01:27] sn0n: No, it's not. [01:27] Octane: the -P flag means 'Purge' eg total cleanse. [01:27] trying jubuntu [01:27] sn0n: no it isn't [01:27] right [01:27] /dev/hda3 /hdc1 vfat rw,user,noauto 0 0 [01:27] well yeah, you kind of are, but they compile against a binary lib (when you use their installer and not the prepackaged ubuntu form) [01:27] sn0n: Only if (like say redhat) you compile the kernel with a BROKEN gcc. [01:27] like this then?? [01:27] cafuego_: do you know what kind of Pin variables could work? [01:27] sn0n: gcc3 and gcc4 are compatible for every language except c++ [01:27] thanks for the info again, later all === DGH [n=DGH@69-174-44-167.chvlva.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu [] [01:28] then why cant i compile my pretty lil vmware modules ? [01:28] ;-) [01:28] Octane: yes, that does seem strange. regardless, apt and aptitude are advanced, network friendly frontends to dpkg, the real package manager in debian systems. [01:28] delire: look! it's still there when i try to do a dist-upgrade: The following NEW packages will be installed: adept debtags kdebluetooth kdenetwork kopete kubuntu-desktop lib32gcj6... [01:28] kuroishinzoo, yes this will do [01:28] yereth: If you just run hoary you don't need to pin. [01:28] delire: im not TOO much of a newbie :) [01:28] Octane: something else is relying on kopete. [01:28] sn0n: because you haven't applied the patch for vmware to compile with 2.6.12? [01:28] wtf.. where i get that ? [01:28] lol === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:28] delire: only thing that's relying on kopete are metapackages kubuntu-desktop [01:28] cafuego_: was actually meaning to ask crimsun, but thanx for responding anyway.. damn tab-completion ;) === davidino [n=davidino@host19-166.pool80181.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [01:28] Octane: kopete is a dependency of another package.. i would say it's kubuntu-desktop [01:28] and kdenetowrk [01:29] cafuego_: I am downgrading you see [01:29] Octane: are you using KDE? [01:29] kdenetwork* [01:29] sn0n: vmware's site [01:29] yup kubuntu === j-linux [n=j-linux@pcp647832pcs.mkethn01.fl.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:29] you happen to know the url ? [01:29] delire: kubuntu-desktop and kdenetwork are both metapackages [01:29] delire, well this description is not acurate apt resolves dependencies and install them [01:29] it must be wrong.. because the terminalsays that the file dont exist [01:29] (to the pathches) [01:29] Octane: well dependencies are dependencies.. not much you can do about that without getting into some less useful territory. [01:29] hehe.. nevermind [01:29] sn0n: nope, i just know this from a friend who told me he got vmware working on breezy [01:29] is there a good server management interface? [01:30] erUSUL: advanced frontends seems 'apt' to me ;) [01:30] i see there is a Updates/Patches [01:30] anyone experience with DOWNGRADING and /etc/apt/preferences [01:30] ? [01:30] cyphase: Yes, 'bash'. [01:30] i guess ill just use apt-get instead of aptitude [01:30] cafeugo_, you know what i mean [01:30] cyphase: Can't say I do. [01:30] hmm [01:30] thats all esx crap thou [01:30] hda ext3 hdb ext3 hdc vfat [01:31] well, something that doesn't require that much typing [01:31] delire, dpkg can not resolve dependencies apt dselect can they are more than front-ends [01:31] Octane: personally i don't dist-upgrade, but i wouldn't advise Ubuntu users to do the same. [01:31] a web interface maybe.. [01:31] ;) [01:31] cyphase: No good ones, no. [01:31] why not dist-upgrade [01:31] erUSUL: yes perhaps.. [01:31] crimsun: are you there? [01:31] i dont understand what is wrong [01:31] what's the best one? === NovaFlash [n=NovaFlas@sev.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:31] besides webmin.. [01:31] lol [01:31] cyphase: Payware [01:32] mhmm [01:32] Octane: i use debian primarily, it's a habit i picked up.. [01:32] right [01:32] And even then it's fairly shit [01:32] hi all I'm a new user [01:32] question keywords: downgrade, breezy, hoary, help! [01:33] kuroishinzoo: post your /etc/fsab to a pastebin. [01:33] yereth: no yes upgrade, ok! [01:33] earth to #ubuntu [01:33] yereth: doesn't, work, well [01:33] yereth: You can't downgrade debian boxes. [01:33] kuroishinzoo: /etc/*fstab [01:33] can't downgrade.. doesn't work.. no yes upgrade, ok [01:33] cafuego_: you can but it will die in the process. [01:33] right.. that's clear [01:33] where do i enter the chmod 777 [01:33] yereth: *maybe* if you stripped it back to a base system, then did it manuall, then reinstalled stuff. [01:33] is it worth making a bug report for typos in the manual pages of 'universe' packages, or should I just ignore it? [01:34] wouldnt that work?? [01:34] so my only chance is completely reinstalling then it seems [01:34] cafuego_: sounds tricky [01:34] and more work than reinstalling [01:34] is UbuntuGuide down? === didymo [n=ashley@CPE-61-9-197-223.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:34] GhostFreeman: yep [01:34] kuroishinzoo: don't go making an entire partition rwx for all users, groups and others.. [01:34] yereth: yes, it is. [01:35] dooglus: do they affect the meaning of the text? === john_ [n=john@doc-24-32-125-72.ftscott.ks.cebridge.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:35] kuroishinzoo: that's like leaving your card keys in the lock while you go for a quick beer. [01:35] cafuego_: NIS makes apt-get cry atm and my xserver is down [01:35] kuroishinzoo: in a shell, type "chmod 777 " [01:35] cafuego_ you know why its down [01:35] P229: no. it just looks ugly. [01:35] yereth; To be honest, in my experience, NIS makes *everything* cry sometimes ;-) [01:35] GhostFreeman: karma === hondje [n=hondje@c-67-164-224-228.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:35] P229: they wrote "choises" instead of "choices". no biggie I guess. [01:35] GhostFreeman: they're changing servers [01:36] cafuego_: I'm sre :) [01:36] dooglus: personally, I wouldn't bother, but it certainly would make ubuntu (and, by extension, the community) look more professional [01:36] Octane: AFAIK he wants to do this to his entire partition. [01:36] so it'll be back up [01:36] why would you want to 777 your entire part [01:36] GhostFreeman: ubuntuguide is poison [01:36] Octane: precis [01:36] cafuego_: would be nice if it wouldn't make apt stop functioning correctly [01:36] nalioth: I've found it resourceful [01:36] moreso than the Wiki [01:37] You *can* downgrade using apt_preferences === ORiON2012 [n=orion@cpe-70-117-0-232.satx.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [01:37] apokryphos: I've tried [01:37] apokryphos: from unstable to stable? i've yet to see it ;) [01:38] apokryphos: it didn't seem to work somehow.. very annoying [01:38] delire: no, breezy to hoary [01:38] apokryphos: right, harsh but doable perhaps. [01:38] if you pin ubuntu hoary above, erm, 1000? [01:38] Downgrading across libc6 incompatibilities, hmm, hurties. [01:38] then dist-upgrade; check the man apt_preferences [01:38] apokryphos: setting a=stable really high and a=testing low doesn't work.. l=hoary and l=breezy doesn't work either [01:38] dooglus: ah === Chambers- [n=Thom@pcp02906040pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:38] P229: aah? [01:39] I didn't say that; I forgot exactly how; check the man page [01:39] its only the hdb and hdc hdd [01:39] dooglus: "oh, i see" :) [01:39] apokryphos: it doesn't say what variables to use exactly [01:39] I don't see why pinning hoary, changing your repos etc would work [01:39] like chmod 777 /dev/hdc1 ?? [01:39] P229: I didn't say anything. [01:40] so I am upgrading now, hong long does it take? [01:40] like chmod 777 /dev/hdc1 ?? [01:40] kuroishinzoo: I really hope that drive isn't important for your system. [01:40] dooglus: I guess that typo does kinda say "idiot" instead of "typographical error" [01:40] "network settings" has a place to enter DNS IP's, but they get overwritten by the next dhcp renew. is that the way it is spozed to work? [01:40] kuroishinzoo: jeez don't do that. [01:41] kuroishinzoo: just mount the drive as i told you, with user,rw etc. [01:41] apokryphos: I pinned hoary with a high priority and breezy with a very low priority.. that was the whole point right? [01:41] why oh why do the universe guys use such a crappy bug reporting system? [01:41] kuroishinzoo: paste your fstab to a pastebin.. have you used a pastebin? [01:41] yereth: ask bob2, I think he knows (and I've gotta go now) -- saw him mention it IIRC. [01:41] dooglus: Because they are trying to make it better. === Linner [n=Linner@71.243.221.75] has joined #ubuntu [01:41] no [01:42] dcraven: hehe strange redirection of the question there. [01:42] hey ya'll [01:42] adieu for now /me -> out [01:42] apokryphos: thanx and bye :) [01:42] its my problem... i dont understand what your talking about.. :( [01:42] kuroishinzoo: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ [01:42] dcraven: it's not very good at the moment. just spits out "500 Internal Server Error" whenever I try to visit. [01:42] sorry about that... i just had FiOS put in so it knocked me off line === koneng [n=k1ng@news.is.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu === stpere [n=stpere@ts1-38.f1235.ts.globetrotter.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:43] dooglus: that sounds broken, not crappy. perhaps they are working on it currently. [01:43] !tell Linner ati === Bicchi [n=AB@adsl-065-006-167-199.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:43] Malone is *constantly* being worked on it seems. [01:43] maybe one day it will be nearly as good as bugzilla. [01:43] kuroishinzoo: no matter, a pastebin is a place where people can paste text to be viewed by others for a short period of time. [01:43] kuroishinzoo: think of it like a blackboard. [01:43] I have a feeling kuroishinzoo is gonna bork his system... [01:44] how do i disconnect my ipod? my ipod's screen says "Do No Disconnect" but i don;t think it's mounted (its not on the desktop) === chavo [n=chavo@141.sub-70-196-199.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:44] dcraven: yes, he's close to breaking his system. === Clujo [n=Clugo@user-2ivem9j.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu === stpere [n=stpere@ts1-38.f1235.ts.globetrotter.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:44] delire: What mount is that drive that he's gonna 777? [01:44] kuroishinzoo: do you know what chmod 777 means? [01:44] rwxrwxrwx [01:44] yes i know.. [01:45] 124124124 [01:45] dcraven: he wants all users to be able to mount, read write execute on the partition. [01:45] :P === moparfan90 [n=moparfan@ool-457a66fa.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:45] kuroishinzoo: well not exactly ;) [01:45] Oh.. It's just a storage drive? [01:45] hello everyone === sambagirl [n=anita@c-24-99-26-225.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:45] i used it when i tried to install gentoo a couple of days ago.. === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #ubuntu [01:46] kuroishinzoo: why not paste that fstab and then i can paste a change for you to use? [01:46] didnt work :( [01:46] heh [01:46] how do i disable thing starting on boot? [01:46] kuroishinzoo: paste what *didn't* work to that pastebin. === chavo [n=chavo@141.sub-70-196-199.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:46] what shall i write in the terminal?? :/ [01:46] The iPod would't use a unix FS, so running chmod would be pointless. Mount it with umask,fmauk,dmask options set to FORCE it to 777. === ubu_spirit [n=ubu_spir@200.90.82.137] has joined #ubuntu [01:46] moparfan90: Can you be more specific as to what type of thing? [01:46] kuroishinzoo: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ go to this page for me now. === ubu_spirit [n=ubu_spir@200.90.82.137] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [01:47] so I am upgrading to Breezy now, hong long should it take for all the downloads, an hour? [01:47] cafuego_: ipod? [01:47] moparfan90, chmod -x the app in /etc/init.d [01:47] kuroishinzoo: is this an ipod you're trying to mount? [01:48] eno: Depends on your connection. There is much to download. [01:48] moparfan90, Be careful though, you might switch off something you need for the boot [01:48] kuroishinzoo@RONJA:~$ sudo su [01:48] Password: [01:48] root@RONJA:/home/kuroishinzoo# /dev/hda3 /hdc1 vfat ro,user.noauto 0 0 [01:48] bash: /dev/hda3: Filen eller katalogen finns inte [01:48] root@RONJA:/home/kuroishinzoo# [01:48] like what, a gig? [01:48] so are we still having problems with the upgrade to breezy? [01:48] delire: Didn't I see someone mention an ipod earleir? [01:48] i have an ipod that im trying to eject/disconnect [01:48] i know there were some serious problems today === buzzc1 [n=buzzetti@bi-02pt1.bluebird.ibm.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:48] cafuego_ maybe, i didn't [01:48] Can anyone recommend an NFS alternative that works transparently? [01:49] cafuego_ ahah different nicks. [01:49] eno: When you apt-get dist-upgrade, it will tell you how much needs to be downloaded, and ask you whether to continue or not. [01:49] oh ok 540MB [01:49] no a 80gb hdd and an 120gb hdd..... they are mounted but i cant use them.. :( [01:49] delire: ugh, these kids today all look alike ;-) [01:49] ;) [01:49] so like an hour I guess, ;P [01:49] enntee: once you get NFS set up, it IS transparent === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:49] nalioth: yeah, i know. but it's a PITA trying to keep my uid/gid's in sync [01:50] nalioth: hello :) [01:50] enntee: Then run 'ugidd' and don't do it manually [01:50] kuroishinzoo: paste the fstab to the pastebin and i can help you. [01:50] eno, then isnt it better to download the iso ? [01:50] cafuego: i'll read up on that. thanks for the tip === Bicchi [n=AB@adsl-065-006-167-199.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu === carlk [n=karen@ppp-70-228-16-206.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:50] enntee: You only need to map UIDs by hand if you run an 3rd party OS like MacOS. Linux can handle it transparently by using the map_daemon option. [01:50] fstab?? [01:51] kuroishinzoo, /etc/fstab === karimw786 [n=karimw78@toronto-HSE-ppp4195622.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:51] well whats some stuff i dont need at boot i can disable (i dont run any servers or mail stuff) [01:51] anybody use amarok for streaming? [01:51] do I need the package "linux" and its dependancies? what is it? [01:52] gah! [01:52] access denied [01:52] !info linux [01:52] moparfan90, probably alot of stuff [01:52] anyone know where i can get a xine plugin for firefox? [01:52] sudo su [01:52] do you kow any off hand? [01:52] dooglus: it'd be hard to get breezy to run on "windows and its dependencies" [01:52] root [01:52] dooglus: There is no such package. [01:52] /etc/fstab [01:52] nalioth: but the package 'linux' I mean. [01:52] access denied [01:52] cafuego_: ? [01:52] kuroishinzoo: copy thse contents of it to the pastebin URL i gave you earlier: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ [01:52] :'( [01:53] dooglus: you need it. you are running it, right? [01:53] ok so here's the thing... i was in here for quite some time this morning and for a while this afternoon and I'm still not getting anywhere. I was told that if I wanted to dual boot that windoze needs to go in first then breezy on another partition. Is there anything else I need to know before I start installing breezy for the FIFTH time??? [01:53] dooglus: There is as far as I can tell no package named 'linux'. [01:53] Linner: howdy [01:53] moparfan90, type ls -r /etc/init.d in a term to see whatstarts [01:53] does anyone know how i can install the new version of limewire? its only in .rpm [01:53] nalioth: my hero :) === Gotardoooooooooo [n=Gotardoo@201.48.31.252] has joined #ubuntu [01:53] Linner: nothing else than what we went over this morning [01:53] kuroishinzoo: if you cannot read this important system file, use 'sudo cat /etc/fstab' [01:53] moparfan90, alien limewire.rpm [01:53] Linner: as long as windows is on first, and you have free space, that's all you need to have [01:54] @find metallica [01:54] nalioth: when i was in here about an hour ago, Seveas told me that there were some serious updating issues. [01:54] moparfan90: you can use gtk-gnutella and stay out of the world of java pain [01:54] kuroishinzoo: then copy those contents into the pastebin. [01:54] dooglus: Ah, in breezy there is. Virtual package that provides a kernel. Nah, you cna wipe it if you have a non-generic kernel. [01:54] cafuego_: I think the 'linux' package is new for breezy. [01:54] nalioth: ok... i have plenty of space.. .that's no problem === cebusito [n=marco@pc-5-47-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:54] copy paste kuroishinzoo send :) [01:54] I got my kernel from 'linux-image' I think [01:54] just type that in alien limewire.rpm? [01:54] Linner: yes there are. the new-hardware-demon is biting you (and us) [01:54] Gotardoooooooooo: We don't have a warez bot, the actiual bot has '!' as cmd char, and metallica suck. [01:55] moparfan90: java is evil, there are altervatives === Maikeru [n=Maikeru@adsl-69-149-227-28.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:55] I'm installing all my drivers now for windoze... I was also told nalioth that I should install mepis first since i can get it up and running and then install over it is that true? [01:55] let's say I had a text file in openoffice and somehow it was overwritten [01:55] is there a way to recover the contents? ;( [01:55] nalioth: yeah... i see i'm certainly not the only one with a stagnant breeze [01:55] :) [01:55] i know i dont like java to much but i like limewire [01:55] (it took me forever to write that [01:55] moparfan90, alien /route/to/limewire.rpm [01:55] ok [01:55] Linner: you can do that. no guarantees that ubuntu will run any better afterward [01:55] moparfan90, download it first [01:55] Maikeru: Not likely. Does OOo have a 'revert' option? [01:55] and now I'll have to redo it if I can't recover [01:55] nalioth: would you do it? [01:55] ooh...good idea [01:56] Linner: if it's breezy you want, i'd wait a few days [01:56] Maikeru: try "control z". It does "undo" [01:56] moparfan90, alternatively, you can use gtk-guntella, which uses the same network [01:56] Linner: it finals oct 13 [01:56] are there any hardware purchases I can make that support ubuntu moreso than others? say... Dell over HP? or Distributor X has ubuntu preinstalled?? === Gotardoooooooooo [n=Gotardoo@201.48.31.252] has joined #ubuntu [01:56] no I saved the contents [01:56] and closed [01:56] apparantly [01:56] nalioth: i'm not sure why breezy would be better than 5.02 at this point [01:56] bur[n] er: HP sells Ubuntu preinstalled on their laptops. [01:56] i can't get anything on there that's related to Ubuntu! [01:56] Maikeru: you'll probably need to restore from backup then [01:56] delire: in the US? [01:56] ... [01:56] bur[n] er: i'm not sure. [01:56] no backup [01:56] bur[n] er: I believe HP have a box with ubuntu on it. Probably only in the US, though. [01:56] delire: not on mine they didn't... and i just got mine a few weeks ago [01:56] it was a set of notes I did for class [01:57] two sections [01:57] Linner: oh === bur[n] er is in the US... and couldn't find this mysterious HP box :\ === The_Bastard is now known as Church_of_FoamY [01:57] delire: must be something REALLY new [01:57] Linner: it has nicer features you could use to make windoze users jealous ;-) [01:57] Linner: breezy is more up-to-date on its hardware recognition things [01:57] hp doesn't offer it in the US, only South Africa right now [01:57] I heard France has a dell laptop with ubuntu, but that doens' help me here ;) [01:57] Nah, also you don't want dell. [01:57] bur[n] er: you can order a Dell here in the US === zyph [n=john@adsl-69-209-74-143.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu [] [01:57] nalioth: with ubuntu? [01:57] nalioth: so... ok... this might be a fix for my issues from this morning nalioth? [01:57] root@RONJA:/home/kuroishinzoo# sudo cat /etc/fstab [01:57] # /etc/fstab: static file system information. [01:57] # [01:57] # [01:57] proc /proc proc defaults 0 0 [01:57] bur[n] er: with mandriva [01:57] /dev/hda1 / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [01:57] /dev/hda5 none swap sw 0 0 === moparfan90 [n=moparfan@ool-457a66fa.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:58] if HP offered ubuntu laptops in north america, i'd buy one immediately... finding a laptop i know is going to work with ubuntu is a PITA [01:58] /dev/hdd /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 [01:58] !paste [01:58] [paste] please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text === mode/#ubuntu [+o nalioth] by ChanServ === mode/#ubuntu [+b %*!*@catv-priv-17.xpress.se] by nalioth === mode/#ubuntu [-o nalioth] by nalioth [01:58] awww... that's not as cool ;) [01:58] how do i install a .deb file? [01:58] wow... [01:58] I though dell had only intel+windows [01:58] thansk for the tip though nalioth [01:58] that wasn't good [01:58] kuroishinzoo: no pasting in here [01:58] dell servers have redhat, but no ubuntu afaik [01:58] moparfan90: sudo dpkg -i [01:58] moparfan90: dpkg -i [01:58] kuroishinzoo: careful with those floods.. [01:58] ok thanks [01:58] enntee: Check www.linux-laptop.net. Do you have a budget? What sort of quality are you after? [01:58] kuroishinzoo: just paste those contents to the pastebin. i see you haven't pasted that yet. === Maikeru [n=Maikeru@adsl-69-149-227-28.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu [""Imagination] [01:59] enntee: I think I heard talk about eMachines and an amd64 laptop. [01:59] bur[n] er: here's the trick: get the modules source code from the mandriva and compile them for ubuntu onthe same hardware === P229 [n=P229@pool-141-156-220-85.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:59] cafuego: $900 CDN [01:59] eh, bur[n] ereven === plagerism [n=plageris@CPE00606771c662-CM013419900473.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu === mode/#ubuntu [+o nalioth] by ChanServ [01:59] heh... it's not making it work that's a pain... it's that I want to push my dollars I'd spend anyway toward ubuntu ;) [01:59] nalioth: have you used suse with it? [01:59] enntee: *nod* How much is an iBook 12" and a 802.11b USB dongle? :-) [01:59] how do you edit the System menu ? === zxsykco [n=zxsykco@adsl-68-75-177-197.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:59] whats the java package called that limewire needs? === mode/#ubuntu [-b %*!*@catv-priv-17.xpress.se] by nalioth === bur[n] er wonders what this limewire raise in popularity is about [02:00] kuroishinzoo: pastebin, my friend [02:00] cafuego: i'd really like an ibook :) do the wi-fi cards in them not work in ubuntu? [02:00] enntee: The airport extreme ones don't :-( [02:00] enntee: that particular broadcom doesn't. === gpm [n=gpm@c-67-161-2-8.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:00] enntee: The older ones with normal airport work fine. [02:01] enntee: anyway, get a recent Asus. they make the Apple iBooks. [02:01] cafuego: ack. OSX is a nice enough OS anyway.. bud im really dependent on virtual desktops [02:01] okey [02:01] nalioth: have you used suse? [02:01] moparfan90: use gtk-gnutella and save yourself some pain [02:01] enntee: OSX has freeware desktop pagers [02:01] does limewire still bundle spyware? === bagawk [n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk] has joined #ubuntu [02:01] i like limewire etter tho [02:01] enntee: Actually, Mac Minis are pretty portable ;-) [02:01] cafuego: yeah, but i'd miss banshee, and muine, and evolution, etc. [02:01] hi guys. i just installed gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse but i can't play AVI or WMV files in totem...they work fine in mplayer...any clues? [02:01] Linner: i've used rh (arrgh), mepis, libranet, and ubuntu [02:01] does anyone know the difference between opensuse and suse 9.3 [02:01] does anyone know the java package that limewire needs? [02:02] nalioth: did you like mepis? [02:02] moparfan90: /msg ubotu java [02:02] !tell moparfan90 -about java [02:02] moparfan90: you would need a JRE package - /msg ubotu java === Church_of_FoamY is now known as FoamY_BOFH [02:02] Linner: i liked it at the time, but imho, it's time has passed [02:02] gpm read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats [02:02] ok... it didn't seem that great to me when I got it running [02:02] nalioth: good ... i like to hear expert opinions on this stuff [02:02] :) === mode/#ubuntu [-o nalioth] by ChanServ [02:03] enntee: In pc-land, I think intel ipw2100 wifi all works fine under linux now, ipw2200 mostly works. (But don't quote me on that) [02:03] jsubl2: should it make a difference that i'm using breezy? the page says it's for hoary users. [02:03] gpm: the instructions are the same [02:03] enntee: my ipw2100 works fine :) [02:04] cafuego: yeah, i'm just in the shopping phase right now. there's some nice, cheap laptops.. but i'm worried i'm gonna find a sound card that doesn't work or something === P8ntKid [n=jon@pcp0011206788pcs.salsbr01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:04] enntee: The only other thing that may not work would be the winmkdeom. [02:04] winmodem [02:04] nalioth: should i still use hoary-extras though i am running breezy? or is there a breezy-extras somewhere? [02:04] cafuego_ enntee ipw2200 works wonderfully here.. [02:04] it's so evil, i can't even spell it ;-) [02:04] i'm downloading suse now since the link you guys posted before http://www.linux-laptop.net/ showed a successful install wtih suse [02:04] enntee: most sound cards found in laptops will work [02:04] with something similar to my laptop [02:04] theres no jre package [02:04] gpm: i'd wait on extras for a while [02:04] does anyone here know and understand 'debfoster'? [02:04] enntee: you can't go past recent IBM thinkpads for Linux compatibility. but they are expensive. [02:05] nalioth: so...just add multiverse/universe? === battlecat [i=icechat5@pool-71-116-42-151.eriepa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:05] Linner: are you getting an install image or the 'live-cd'? [02:05] delire: yeah, i had considered those as well [02:05] install image [02:05] I'm been trying to understand it. I asks me if I want to keep "dia-common", but that's not an orphan since it's a dependancy of dia-gnome, which is installed. [02:05] I have a Debian Sarge DVD can I use the DEB packages from the DVD with Ubuntu? [02:05] suse is such a monster download [02:05] enntee: these folk sell good machines without the windows tax if you ask: http://agearnotebooks.com/ [02:05] dooglus: debfoster will list installed apckages (with their depends) and ask if you wantto keep them. Hit 'y' to keep, hit 'p' to purge the package AND the depends. Hit 'x' to process them when yiou get bored. [02:05] Linner: you might try fedora-core-4 (if you're not using ubuntu) [02:05] battlecat, not recommended === lui [n=Luis@39sosua109.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu [02:05] delire: thanks for the tip, i'll check them out [02:05] why is that? [02:05] cafuego_: why is it asking my about 'dia-common'? [02:05] hi battlecat [02:05] holy crap ya'll... i'm already half way finished downloading it - the dvd iso [02:06] this fios stuff works well! [02:06] Hey [02:06] N [02:06] battlecat: b/c of version conflicts [02:06] enntee: i researched for a couple of months. their Asus line is made by Asustek, which make the Apple PB's and iBooks. the little 12" looks similar to an ibook in the flesh. [02:06] battlecat: if you have a woody cd, that'd be great [02:06] dooglus: It's installed, it'll ask about it. Just hit 'n' if you think you need to keep it. === boxerboy29 [n=boxerboy@adsl-144-177-44.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:06] nalioth: why did you ask? [02:06] boxerboy29: wb :) [02:06] cafuego_: it only asks about 'orphans', right? [02:06] No just the sarge DVD that came with the linux magazine [02:06] that said the 17" PB's are nothing to be proud of. awful machines. [02:06] linner:ty:) [02:06] dooglus: No, that's deborphan. [02:06] 17" Peanut butters? [02:07] battlecat: sarge is too new, you'd have version conflicts with ubuntu [02:07] battlecat: yes [02:07] mplayer still dont work :( [02:07] :) [02:07] enntee: Oh, and keep an eye on what gfx chip you'd get. Some work better then others. [02:07] STILL??? [02:07] oh gosh! [02:07] still [02:07] OK Nale [02:07] enntee: Especially in 3d land [02:07] cafuego: yeah, gotta be nvidia for me :) [02:07] i even downloaded lame [02:07] I figured that Ubuntu would be newer [02:07] Linner: whom are you addressing? [02:07] nalioth: what other multimedia player do you recommend besides mplayer? [02:07] Linner: totem! [02:07] searched for midi players downloaded them still nothing [02:07] cafuego_: debfoster doesn't ask me about anything that came pre-installed - because none of that stuff is orphaned. it just asks if I want to keep 'ubuntu-base' and 'ubuntu-desktop' - if I say yes to those, it knows it has to keep the rest. [02:07] nalioth: you at first... you asked me if I was downloading a live cd or an image === aircooledmadness [n=aircoole@c-24-11-117-134.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:08] battlecat: yes it is, but there are some shared pkgs of the same vintage [02:08] boxerboy29: enntee recommends totem [02:08] how do you install local debs? apt-get install package.deb doesn't work === IcemanV9 [n=nobody@adsl-68-79-17-254.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:08] have you tried others, boxerboy29? [02:08] P229: sudo dpkg -i [02:08] does totem play midi files? [02:08] dooglus: Indeed. So you could remove those (they're just meta-packages) and then pick the rest out by re-running it. [02:08] enntee: a lovely little machine. i saw it recently in the flesh: http://store.agearnotebooks.com/asuss5nphoto.html [02:08] ok what is the worst that can happen? === sPYder--- [n=inxs@203.177.182.68] has joined #Ubuntu [02:08] cafuego_: from the debfoster man page: "if debfoster notices that a package that used to be a dependency is now an orphan, it will ask you what to do with it" - note, "orphan" [02:08] boxerboy29, nope, try timidity [02:08] enntee: my girlfriend has a model down from it, i have the larger brother. great laptops. [02:08] battlecat: you can be stuck with a non-upgradeable system [02:08] i have it already [02:09] ewww [02:09] still doesnt play [02:09] help, help, help!, I was upgrading to breezy. After the upgrade I restart the system and now the X doesn't find my display manager neither the nvidia drivers, what can I do please? [02:09] delire: it does look pretty slick [02:09] dooglus: Yes, it ALSO processes non-orphioned packages, though. Whereas 'deborphan' does not. (it only lists orphans) === misterdiff [n=ruben@101.202.27.24.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === nekron [n=caue@200.138.244.16] has joined #ubuntu [02:09] lui: when did you last do it? [02:09] cafuego_: but shouldn't ask about them. [02:09] right now [02:09] enntee: given the iBook will be an intel machine within 18 months, there will be little difference between this and an iBook. [02:09] boxerboy29, right now [02:09] bimberi: thank you (coming over from fedora here) [02:10] lui: in terminal or synaptic? === sPYder--- [n=inxs@203.177.182.68] has joined #Ubuntu [02:10] P229: np :) [02:10] boxerboy29, synaptic === nekron [n=caue@200.138.244.16] has left #ubuntu ["Fui] [02:10] delire: do you understad swedish?? [02:10] what happens when you log in and type startx but do not have gnome KDE or any other WM installed? [02:10] open terminal and try sudo apt-get install upgrade [02:10] boxerboy29, now I'm running the live cd to talk here [02:10] delire: yeah... in all honesty, i'll probably just end up buying an ibook... i'm not much of a tinkerer these days [02:10] i just like stuff to work without much effort [02:10] kuroishinzoo: no, though i lived there for a while. [02:11] I think maybe I don't understand what "recommends" means in .deb files [02:11] enntee: if you can actually stand OSX then sure ;) [02:11] enntee: i can't :) [02:11] lui: you might want to reconfig your xorg file [02:11] delire: i like osx, i'm a sucker for that bright friendly bubbly crap [02:11] boxerboy29: sound familiar??? [02:11] looks like everyone is having this proble [02:11] problem [02:11] linner all too [02:11] enntee: i was glad to get rid of it. so bloody slow and awful. [02:11] :( [02:12] delire: definitely a bit slow =\ [02:12] boxerboy29, ok, I'll try [02:12] enntee: hmm === IcE-bOy [n=javi@82.158.24.159] has joined #ubuntu [02:12] hi === booger [n=booger@cpe-65-185-66-145.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:12] nalioth told me that i should wait a few days before installing it [02:12] anybody has problemas with breezy ? [02:12] hey IcE-bOy [02:12] yes [02:12] most everyone [02:12] delire: but, i definitely prefer it over windows. [02:12] my screen show down when ..... i stop write [02:12] or i stop move de mouse [02:12] delire: and at some point i'm sure i'll be able to install ubuntu on it [02:12] onlye one secon dalay for screen turn off [02:12] they're having serious problem with the updating mechanism [02:12] boxerboy29, what should I put in replace of the nvidia drivers in xorg file? [02:12] well here we go. my mother's winblows machine just finally took a crap. obviously i need to install something on it now but i don't know what. i'd install ubuntu which is what i use and for me its easy, but i know how she is and she won't understand the synaptic installer at all for installing additional software [02:13] any sugestions? [02:13] lui: thats a bad word for me [02:13] enntee: sure.. a weird time to buy an ibook though. [02:13] okey.. cause i have a little problem with eng.. === battlecat [i=icechat5@pool-71-116-42-151.eriepa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu [] === IcemanV9 stays with Hoary === ST4T1K [n=craig@craiggers.rh.rit.edu] has joined #ubuntu [02:13] boxerboy29: what, xorg? :) [02:13] cant find the words i want all the time.. :( [02:13] lui: ive seen too many people have problems with those drivers [02:13] kuroishinzoo: hehe no problem. [02:13] and my gramar sucks [02:13] boxerboy29, maybe vesa could work? === delire asks anyone here speak swedish? [02:13] linner the nvidia drivers === karen [n=karen@ppp-70-228-16-206.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu === dimitrije [n=dimitrij@80.74.163.135] has joined #ubuntu [02:14] boxerboy29: i know... i was kidding... trying to make you smile :) [02:14] lol :) [02:14] hall r det nn hr som frstr mig?? === gpm [n=gpm@c-67-161-2-8.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:14] english please :) === kitsch [n=jin@84-217-21-144.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #ubuntu === zoe [n=zoe@dsl-206-180.resnet.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu [02:14] kuroishinzoo: i work in scandinavia currently but barely learnt to say more than tjena and hej hej ;) [02:14] lui: go to www.linuxquestions.org and look for the fixes on those drivers === nalioth [n=Apple@pdpc/supporter/bronze/nalioth] has joined #ubuntu [02:14] :D [02:15] Linner: he's asking if anyone speaks his language.. === moparfan90 [n=moparfan@ool-457a66fa.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:15] boxerboy29, ok, thanks, bye :) [02:15] hi, so what's the best way to install w32codecs on breezy? [02:15] thats fun.. [02:15] yw [02:15] hey does anyone know anything about k3b burning app [02:15] cafuego: thanks for the ugidd tip... this will make my life infintely easier [02:15] hello i hae jre java thing and its a .bin file how do i install that? [02:15] gpm: same problem here but i heard lame is very good [02:15] booger: a little ... but i decided to uninstall it and get ....something else [02:15] boxerboy29: no, i need something to play a .rm (real media) file... [02:15] let me go look what i got... what are you trying to do with it bogg [02:15] moparfan90: follow the instruction :) it's fairly easy [02:16] like what? [02:16] linner: something else? [02:16] booger... what are you trying to do with it === rubem [n=rubem@200.183.92.174] has joined #ubuntu [02:16] kuroishinzoo: i see your post on the website. i think i might be able to help here. [02:16] ive got to go now.. [02:16] boxerboy29: yeah i have to go look at my other machine [02:16] something baker [02:16] yeah i need something to play midi files === timmytheturtle [n=chris@d226-20-40.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:16] icemanv9, there are no istructions [02:16] okey.. [02:16] hey, I totally need help, I dragged the quick launch bar from the top of my screen, (I saw the little hand icon and got curious) to the left. It is super-obnoxious huge now, and I cannot move it back (I cannot get the hand icon). How do I reset these settings? [02:16] burn a DVD, I've used the same app and worked fine [02:16] baker i know that but its a burner [02:16] gpm: here is a link for w32codecs http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/ [02:16] kuroishinzoo: which is the disk you want to allow users to read and write to? [02:16] moparfan90: where did you get it from? [02:16] hi, anyone now if mysql server is instaled with ubunto 5.04? [02:17] so is k3b [02:17] hdc1 and hdb1 that arnt mounted.. :( [02:17] nalioth: just dpkg -i the .deb? [02:17] rubem:if not by default you can get it from synaptic [02:17] sunjava there site [02:17] booger: it's gnomebaker [02:17] how shall i do?? [02:17] nalioth: and wait for official breezy-extras? [02:17] kuroishinzoo: what file system types do they have? [02:17] linner; k3b is my fav :) [02:17] boxerboy29: how come? [02:17] to me a burner is a burner [02:17] it has never failed me [02:17] I get this same OPC ?? error for both apps [02:17] zoe: is this GNOME, KDE, or XP? [02:17] IcemanV9, do you know how to install a .bin file? [02:17] GNOME, [02:17] as long as it does what it's supposed to.... [02:17] hda ext3 hdb ext3 hdc vfat [02:18] it checks the md5 sum for u [02:18] gpm: the link i sent is w32codecs packaged for breezy [02:18] booger: what's an OPC? === dimitrije [n=dimitrij@80.74.163.135] has joined #ubuntu [02:18] got me [02:18] zoe: where's the little hand? do you mean the foot? [02:18] boxerboy29: oh okay... do you know what an OPC is? [02:18] linner: your kidding right? [02:18] does anyone know how i can insall jre.bin i dont know how to install a .bin file???? [02:18] boxerboy29: no. [02:18] moparfan90: follow the instruction -> http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting [02:18] the mouse pointer turned to a hand, when I moved it to the very top of the menu bar, this made me curious, so I tried dragging. [02:18] ok [02:18] boxerboy29: you're far more versed in this stuff than I am [02:18] nalioth: ok. so i just use that until they make an official breezy-extras...right? === goose_boy [n=arehman@cpe-24-193-236-131.ucwphilly.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:19] moparfan90: hoary or breezy? [02:19] linner im the person that cant get music to play with every damn player made for linux [02:19] kuroishinzoo: ok.. [02:19] zoe: oh, it doesn't do that for me. it stays like a white arrow. [02:19] linner: I guess it's some error having to do with making an ISO image [02:19] boxerboy29: i know... and you're still more versed in this stuff than I am :) [02:19] the strip with my quick-launch icons is now on the left side of the screen, it is huge, and I can't move it back.. [02:19] excuse me, when i install realplayer it asks me where real player has been downloaded to and it tries to run the installer [02:19] opc? [02:19] where does it downlad the installer too? [02:19] nevermind i got it thanks [02:19] gpm that will probably be in -extras [02:19] kuroishinzoo: ok good, and what are the mount points names for those disks? [02:19] booger: i just made an iso last night with gnomebaker [02:19] booger: go through synaptic and get it [02:19] nalioth: ok. cool thanks [02:20] You have 1 broken package on your system! [02:20] Use the "Broken" filter to locate it. === dimitrije [n=dimitrij@80.74.163.135] has joined #ubuntu [02:20] my I by apt-get install apache+php, configured? [02:20] zoe: was it like a fist? or an open hand? [02:20] linner: opc info here http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0112.0/0005.html [02:20] where does it download the realplayer installer too? [02:20] I don't remember exactly, and I can't repeat the experiment, [02:20] booger: http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0112.0/0005.html go there [02:20] I do know that it changed from the normal arrow. [02:21] goose_boy: how are you getting it? [02:21] boxerboy29: found information on your OPC question [02:21] i dont know because i mounted them on the desktop with "disks" === mustafu [i=aeris@24-180-194-121.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:21] linner: i did I have k3b and gnomebaker both giving me the same OPC / iso making error [02:21] i dont think that it worked [02:21] oops I mean booger boxerboy found your answer [02:21] kuroishinzoo: use this as a ***guide***: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/370512 [02:21] do anyone know the famous linux uml designer? [02:21] rubem, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP [02:21] booger:http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0112.0/0005.html === j-linux [n=j-linux@pcp647832pcs.mkethn01.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:21] zoe: I see it now. I can drag it back in the same way though. [02:22] it has something to do with atpi === Xorlev_ [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #ubuntu [02:22] oh yuck [02:22] zoe: the problem you might have is that there's no clear space in the bar to grab it by any more [02:22] lmao [02:22] hehehehe [02:22] hmm. I just deleted all the icons, then the panel. [02:22] I rememberer, Umbrelo! [02:22] how can I create a new one? [02:22] all kinds of problems today -- just starting using Ubuntu again: I accidentally deleted the gaim icon in the task bar and now I can't get it back. I installed Kopete but that icon doesn't appear in the task bar either. [02:22] Any ideas? [02:22] kuroishinzoo: i have added lines for disks hdc1 and hdb1 as you described and made them read-writeable by . they mount on the point /disk1 /disk2, change these to match what you have on your computer. [02:22] wtf is trash-root [02:23] kuroishinzoo: from what/where? [02:23] j-linux: don't use gnome here. someone will be able to assist. [02:23] linner: so is it some kind of error with the disc? DMA errors ? [02:24] zoe: you still have the bottom panel, right? close apps until you can see some clear space on it. [02:24] j-linux: right click the bar go to add to panel and you will add a launcher add the laucher and in the command field type gaim [02:24] wait, figured it out, I can right click on the bottom panennns and create nenw, [02:24] zoe: then right-click in some clear space and say 'new panel' [02:24] that should work [02:24] booger: how many times have you tried to burn? [02:24] booger: and did you try to install any updates before doing it [02:24] we are on the same page, cool, [02:24] about three billion [02:24] boxerboy29: the launcher will bring back the "minimized" icon for gaim? [02:24] booger: that's a lot of discs [02:25] it's a joke [02:25] booger: did you try doing the discs AFTER an update? [02:25] zoe: you just helped me find another bug in breezy. if you drag the top panel around it crashes stuff in breezy. [02:25] booger: no kidding :) [02:25] j-linux you mean when you minimize something it goes away? [02:25] yes i did [02:25] Kopete's "minimized" icon doesn't show either. [02:25] same thing [02:25] booger: ok... that might the problem [02:25] j-linux gnome or kde? [02:25] like how ?? i'm lost === da_bon_bon [n=rohan@unaffiliated/dabonbon/x-000000001] has joined #ubuntu [02:25] all of us are having serious problems with our versions due to the upgrade mechanism.... nalioth can tell you more [02:26] nalioth: can you tell booger about the upgrade problems they've been having? [02:26] alright, I guess that this has been a good, constructive experience. glad I could help :) [02:26] boxerboy29: Gaim works fine. But when I "close" it with the x --- it doesn't minimize to tray anymore. It closes. Kopete keeps running, but there is no icon. [02:26] I'm using Gnome, but have KDE on here also. [02:26] lol@linner passing it off on nalioth [02:26] nalioth: you know far more about it then I do [02:26] /home/kuroishinzoo/desktop/hdc/trash-root/hdb &hdc [02:26] boxerboy29: hey man, i can only do what i can do [02:26] :) [02:26] lol [02:26] o dpm [02:26] oops [02:26] i don't know the exact problem with the updates [02:26] boxerboy29: do you know? === bahamut_ is now known as Kingbahamut [02:27] who's nalioth? [02:27] hey isnt helix player the gnu version of real player? [02:27] j-linux: if you open it back up does the lil yellow guy go back? [02:27] funny [02:27] kuroishinzoo: that looks like some desktop symlink for the root 'trashcan'. nothing to worry about i would say. [02:27] nalioth: seriously... what exactly are the upgrade problems they're having? [02:27] goose_boy: it's trying to be. [02:27] boxerboy29: open what? A new gaim? [02:27] linner: the problem with updates is kinda simple (breezy is beta) lmao :) [02:28] yes [02:28] ha ha [02:28] goose_boy: and it kind of works. [02:28] I knew that part doofus :) [02:28] linner: do I need update to breezy? [02:28] NO! === flugh [n=jim@pool-70-22-51-173.balt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:28] booger: nO! [02:28] booger: not yet... wait a little while [02:28] lmao [02:28] Like Moths to the Flame [02:28] really... like a couple of days... that's what naliothtold me to do [02:28] booger: dont upgrade for another week or so [02:28] delire: got to quit.. see you.. bye [02:28] Linner: new hardware is the achilles heel of linux [02:28] exactly [02:28] OK [02:29] boxerboy29: I can run gaim, but normally, when you "close" the window it minimizes to system tray. In my case, after accidentally removing that little icon in the system tray it doesn't minimize anymore. Is there a way to bring that feature back? [02:29] nalioth: yes, I'm seeing that first hand [02:29] slowly... very slowly.. .but for sure [02:29] j-linux: look in the prefs [02:29] _unsupported_ new hardware.. [02:29] hey how do i get a delete option in gnome [02:29] damn i got hung up on for laughing so hard at linner saying no:( === otep [n=paltok@AP-203.167.31.158.sysads.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:30] hi [02:30] boxerboy29: are you making fun me dude? :) [02:30] hi otep [02:30] otep: hello :) [02:30] nalioth: I already did, and I made sure that it "minimizes to tray" -- it still doesn't though. [02:30] linner sorry she said hold on [02:30] hey, while I'm here, can anyone give advice on making cxoffice produce sound? I can get iTunes running, but get no music playback. Alternatively, any suggestion for native linux jukeboxes would be helpful. The 'music player' offered with gnome is a good start, but it has been super buggy. [02:30] nalioth: same with Kopete [02:30] ^this is a bit off topic^ could someone go to http://www.iduniken.com/ and let me know if you see a web page or an access error? I need someone with a diffrent IP than mine [02:30] boxerboy29: heheheh :) [02:31] chatzilla users cant come in here huh? [02:31] chase: it's a regular page [02:31] what is going on with breezy? [02:31] zoe: perhaps look at amarok, xmms, beep-media-player === ombr [n=ombr@tru75-6-82-240-33-149.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:31] j-linux, shame, thanks thought! [02:31] chase: i see a plain old web page [02:31] seveas, hello can you help me? i need to install the java package limewire needs and i cant get it to work [02:31] boxerboy29, why not? [02:31] chase: i can see the blog [02:31] booger: breezy is still in the testing stages [02:31] thanks guys IcemanV9 Linner [02:31] funkyhat: registered users only i thought [02:31] chase looks like a wordpress home page or something [02:31] I thought it was annonced === otep a friend of mine was asking if he can change the settings for his video card === goose_boy [n=arehman@cpe-24-193-236-131.ucwphilly.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:32] boxerboy29, what's wrong with being a registered user and using chatzilla? [02:32] booger: not yet... it will be final next month [02:32] zoe: KDE tends to have the best desktop integrated 'jukeboxes'. [02:32] hmmm something weird just happened [02:32] shes not a registered user [02:32] ok, what I really want is the simple sorting and searching by artist and album. I haven't seen that in xmms, [02:32] oh [02:32] X just restart out of the blue [02:32] i think i am [02:32] ? === billytwowilly [n=billy@S0106000c413a2c0c.ed.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:32] OK === otep any clarifications since i cant answer that for him =D [02:32] how do i change the res on the my monior? [02:32] can I simply install KDE while GNOME is installed? [02:32] zoe: i would look at http://amarok.kde.org/ [02:32] they're pretty much getting everyone psyched up with the preview that's out and downloadable now [02:32] zoe, yes [02:33] so is there cheap and easy fix for my burning problem? [02:33] booger: go to ubuntulinux.org and sign up for the free CD if you'd like an official copy [02:33] why would X just restart? [02:33] zoe, why do you want kde ?? [02:33] booger: I can't answer that. I'm very VERY new to LInux. [02:33] moparfan90: breezy or hoary? [02:33] otep: what is the graphic card? [02:33] linner i ordered 20 of them [02:33] hoary [02:33] boxerboy29: yeah I asked for 10 === otep ooops w8 [02:33] they changed it [02:33] OK i'm out [02:33] does anyone know what would cause X to restart? [02:33] changed what? === ghostdog [n=ghostdog@203.177.237.244] has joined #ubuntu [02:33] good luck booger [02:33] it just does that at random times [02:33] oh [02:33] or not [02:33] the order crap [02:34] really....? === edwin [n=edwin@200-168-44-18.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [02:34] you used to type in a number you wanted [02:34] moparfan90, so I can try amarok, [02:34] goose_boy, yes clicking ctrl + alt +backspace [02:34] moparfan90: try here http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/ [02:34] goose_boy: strange. sure it's not an ctrl-alt-backspace? [02:34] yeah that's what i did [02:34] now they have set packages [02:34] is there a get right version for ubunto [02:34] oh okay [02:34] delire, yes [02:34] is there a get right version for ubunto? [02:34] zoe: 'sudo apt-get install amarok' should do it. [02:34] zoe, i think it possilble to get that on gnome [02:34] ghostdog: there are several download manglers for ubuntu [02:34] they say if you custom order you have a chance of being turned down [02:34] oh, [02:34] goose_boy: strange.. look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log [02:35] whatever, I already started KDE with synaptic. === Versed [i=Versed@69.253.173.154] has joined #ubuntu [02:35] what are they ? [02:35] zoe: just a GUI way of doing the same thing ;) [02:35] nalioth: what are they ? [02:35] zoe: eg.. synAPTic [02:35] download helpers [02:35] grafical interfaces that help you install programs [02:35] ghostdog: search synaptic for "download manager" or some such === juankes [n=juankes@200.21.228.62] has joined #ubuntu === TokenBad [n=tokenbad@67.189.70.241] has joined #ubuntu [02:36] boxerboy29: you want sourceinstall [02:36] another question: I have been having trouble getting apache to start. I went to my /etc/inet.d/ directory and typed apache2 but got this: (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80 [02:36] i have installed a cdrw drive after instaling ubuntu... and it was not automatic installed. what i have to do to install it? === MarcN [n=marc@dsl.wildcat.mv.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:36] how do i install that .deb file [02:36] I'm trying to start apache and MySQL [02:36] ? [02:36] nalioth: sourceinstall for what? [02:36] j-linux: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start [02:36] j-linux: so a sudo '/etc/init.d/apache restart' gives this also? [02:36] the midi issue? [02:36] sorry.. apache2 [02:36] boxerboy29> grafical interfaces that help you install programs <<< right... what I mean is I already started installing KDE and it appears that I didn't need to. I'm getting the impression that you guys prefer GNOME? I've never tried KDE. what's the difference. === gn0me [n=gn0me@linuxjunkies.com] has left #ubuntu [] [02:37] delire: nvidia fx 5200 [02:37] oh i thought that guy asked what is a download mangler [02:37] zoe: you'll get alot of that sucks and this doesn't asking that question. ;) [02:37] bimberi: that just gives me a list of usage options. [02:37] my issue is midi files [02:37] nalioth: it just gave bittorent [02:37] delire: same with that one. I don't know why... [02:37] nalioth, how do i install that file? it a .deb?? [02:38] ghostdog: is there a torrent for what you need? [02:38] zoe: they are simply two different and largely competing projects to provide a complete and coherent UNIX desktop experience. === da_bon_bon [n=rohan@unaffiliated/dabonbon/x-000000001] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:38] moparfan90: once you get the file, "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb" [02:38] delire, right on. I guess I won't ask then. give it a try and form my own opinion... [02:38] ok === net_benjo [n=ben@CPE0013461da1a1-CM000f2120da81.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:39] j-linux: Strange. Paste the command, plus its output to a pastebin for us [02:39] alguem ai fala portugues? === redtech [n=redtech@unaffiliated/redtech] has joined #ubuntu [02:39] !pastebin [02:39] methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl === Vuiron [n=luiioeis@195.242.245.38] has joined #ubuntu [02:39] nalioth: no its just a huge file and our internet connection gets cut-off sometimes , so i end up downloading it again [02:39] nalioth: you mean to install a .deb you use dpkg? [02:39] bimberi: I figured it out. I was starting in the /etc/init.d/ directory. It only works if I type the whole path. :S === Nikopol [n=Nikopol@i-195-137-15-67.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu === Vuiron [n=luiioeis@195.242.245.38] has left #ubuntu [] [02:39] boxerboy29: if you have the deb locally, yes [02:39] where the hell was my brain at today [02:39] edwin, hablo espaol, a lo mejor me entiendes. [02:39] zoe: they both have very different approached. KDE on configurability (excellent administration tools and libqt based), Gnome simple, more mac/ NextStep derived (and with a libgtk front end) [02:39] !es [02:39] Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. [02:40] looks like im not the only one with this problem === Clujo [n=Clujo@user-2ivekes.dialup.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:40] on ubuntu forums others havin the same issues [02:40] but no answers [02:40] !libgtk [02:40] quero instalar um drive de cdrw [02:40] NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, zoe [02:40] hi guys, I need help with my wireless. I'm using ipw2200 + WPA...can anybody help me? [02:40] otep: right that card can be tweaked yes. i think nvidia even ships software to assist. === pc22 [n=arik@222.126.13.162] has joined #ubuntu [02:41] cafuego: i'm getting "unsupported mapping; kernel supports only 'identity' (default)" when i try to use NFS with map_daemon.. do i need to install anything else besides ugidd? [02:41] edwin, y no funciona? [02:41] cafuego_: forgot the _ === tensor [n=tensor@203.131.101.38] has joined #ubuntu [02:41] Is there a comand that can tell my all the IP's i am connected too? [02:42] zoe, ele tem energia... abre e fecha, mas no foi reconhecido [02:42] P8ntKid: netstat [02:42] netstat [02:42] enntee: Thanks [02:42] how do i enable ymessenger to play wav files on alerts/events? [02:43] somebody knows what happen with the ubuntuguide.org site? [02:43] zoe: GTK == 'Gimp Tool Kit' http://www.gtk.org/. QT http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt/index.html === net_benjo [n=ben@CPE0013461da1a1-CM000f2120da81.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #ubuntu [] [02:43] how can i find out what my bios is? === test34 [n=test34@unaffiliated/test34] has joined #ubuntu [02:43] and where i can get updates? === ouroboros [n=ouroboro@ool-182fb5a1.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu === cebusito [n=marco@pc-5-47-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:43] You all rock. [02:43] zoe: tem algum programa pra fazes auto reconhecimento? [02:43] nalioth: sudo dpkg when i do that do i put everything in the name of file in there to install it?: [02:44] boxerboy29: he's not on [02:44] P8ntKid: try 'sudo netstat -tupa' for rich but friendly output. [02:44] boxerboy29: he's having cable problems [02:44] tensor: did you know that gaim does have Y! acct?? [02:44] AMD64 + Ubuntu Hoary 64 - problems galore, 1st step is amarok, no sound, tried esd [02:44] oh i hate it for him [02:44] ouroboros: cheers.. [02:44] i hate cable [02:44] boxerboy29: yeah he's in houston [02:44] edwin, no hace falta un programa, [02:44] oh no [02:44] i love cable... [02:44] My apt-get stopped working because it's trying to install x11-common which is trying to change the config files of xorg. How can I make it work again? [02:44] delire: thanks man =) [02:44] IcemanV9, yep i do. i just prefer ym's familari interface :D [02:44] thats wrong place to be === Zodiac [n=nicholas@69-161-72-233.bflony.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:44] yeah so it's not because of the company its because of the storm [02:45] yeah i know [02:45] zoe: e como fao isso manualmente? [02:45] edwin, ests seguro que tienes los jumpers bien puestos? [02:45] i'm worried for him... but he refuses to leave [02:45] 2nd problem: tightvnc install [02:45] tensor: ok. it's just that gaim have sound for events/alarms [02:45] sim... funciona no windows [02:45] edwin, no se puede leer ni montar un disco? [02:45] 3rd problem: ATI All-in-Wonder 128 (Rage128) [02:45] im gonna try this install :( again [02:45] otep: the proprietary nvidia installer also provides a way to configure all sorts of fancy stuff for this card. [02:45] IcemanV9, yeah, i'm starting to have 2nd thoughts :/ [02:45] ok... [02:45] i'm crossing everything I can cross for you [02:45] dpkg: status database area is locked by another process === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has joined #ubuntu [02:45] wtf is that? === mindframe [n=mindfram@ip68-11-240-218.br.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:46] zoe, ele naum reconhece o hdc q seria onde esta instalado [02:46] tensor: sorry. you might get something if you can tinker with it to get sound working. [02:46] boxerboy29: you can't install two things in two different synaptic/apt processes at the same time. [02:46] 4th problem: libstdc++-lib6.2 stuff === ageuo [n=ieoiouik@195.242.245.38] has joined #ubuntu === nalioth [n=Apple@pdpc/supporter/bronze/nalioth] has joined #ubuntu [02:46] wb nalioth === DVSoftware [n=kvirc@dvsoftware.sks1.muni.cz] has joined #ubuntu [02:46] hi. in beep-media-player the playlist's right and bottom window border is missing === ageuo is now known as ioeEPu === iccafe01 [n=iccafe01@203.160.171.35] has joined #ubuntu [02:46] delire im not that i know of [02:46] 5th problem: cedega [02:46] mighty strange === ioeEPu is now known as dZSeei [02:46] hi [02:46] boxerboy29: ps ax | grep apt [02:47] anyone playing guild wars here? === dZSeei [n=ieoiouik@195.242.245.38] has left #ubuntu [] [02:47] I'm bout to dump this thing and sell my AMD64 [02:47] For? [02:47] ouroboros: why? [02:47] j-linux: great! (sry - got called away) [02:47] edwin, aparece en el BIOS el cdrw? === kritty [n=kritty@S0106000c76ba0623.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:48] sim [02:48] because out of like 30 communities, I've gotten help from 1 person [02:48] ouroboros: what problems with cedega you have? [02:48] I don't even want to start with Cedega [02:48] i have amd64 [02:48] those jerks didn't help me one bit [02:48] and it's worth some pain [02:48] the hell am I paying for [02:48] ouroboros: breezy? [02:48] Crapola? [02:48] hoary [02:48] after remove rmmod "module_name". Will it come back after rebooted ? [02:48] Hey all. We tried updating our laptop last night and it died ( we are using breezy. was there an issue? [02:48] grrrrrrrrr [02:48] let's see hoary 64bit right? === karen [n=karen@adsl-68-72-115-194.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:48] right.. === ooKea [n=oeitieei@g89-45.citenet.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:49] ouroboros: what is the error message [02:49] that you get? [02:49] oh god [02:49] where to begin? === ooKea [n=oeitieei@g89-45.citenet.net] has left #ubuntu [] [02:49] zoe: edwin in #ubuntu-es, por favor [02:49] ouroboros: from the beginning ;) [02:49] ok [02:49] here's the main trouble, cedega for 64 i've given up on, I chroot 32 cedega...and slightly modified the config to ensure both dvd-rom and cdrw drives get added to chroot... [02:50] this really shouldnt be this hard [02:50] So when I go "apt-get -f install" I get "x11-common trying to overwrite `/etc/X11/Xsession', which is also in package xorg-common" [02:50] neither seem to have media in them in chroot mode [02:50] ouroboros: why do you chroot, when cedega works fine without chroot? [02:50] edwin, dicen que vayas a #ubunntu-es, === locomorto [n=locomort@unaffiliated/locomorto] has joined #ubuntu [02:50] so cedega says "there's nothing there" [02:50] xorg :( [02:50] ouroboros: [02:50] mount it [02:50] in chroot [02:50] it doesn't work in 64 [02:50] zoe you can speak english i understand [02:50] ouroboros: yes it does [02:50] in fact I get a string of 4 pages worth of errors === commrules [n=cage@h24-207-8-227.dlt.dccnet.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:50] How can I get around this? === iandexter [n=iandexte@203.131.67.205] has joined #ubuntu [02:50] How can I make apt-get work again? === JOgwiKo [n=oeitieei@g89-45.citenet.net] has joined #ubuntu === Hackerquaker [n=Nose@14-111-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu [02:51] i'm not very good but we can talk === Hackerquaker [n=Nose@14-111-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [02:51] what folder can i put prgram files? === JOgwiKo [n=oeitieei@g89-45.citenet.net] has left #ubuntu [] [02:51] ouroboros: i have cedega installed in 64bit environment [02:51] cedega seemed to be happier in chroot, but my problem with it at that level is probably the chroot cdrom entries === bobby [n=bobby@210.18.197.70] has joined #ubuntu [02:51] edwin, alright, the drive should be recognized automatically, [02:51] and it works fine [02:51] do you think i might need to upgrade my bios? [02:51] how? how did you get it installed? [02:51] force-architecture [02:51] dpkg take place of apt-get? [02:51] zoe, it was not... thats the problem [02:51] I followed several guides [02:51] matiu: did you use 'sudo'? [02:52] edwin, how is it jumpered? are you sure that it was installed correctly? === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has left #ubuntu ["Konversation] [02:52] when i was using madrake it was a detector in the begin [02:52] Need help, installed ubuntu 5.04 on my acer laptop, when ubuntu loads I get a blackscreen (but I can hear the intro sound).. someone told me to edit: sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf and where it shows display change it to VESA .. problem is I cant see anything to even edit, any suggestions? [02:52] could someone please help me with my wireless card? since i installed breezy it's unable to find my router. the card is detected fine. one thing i have noticed is that iwconfig shows two interfaces for the same device which is my wireless card. [02:52] but it didnt happen in ubuntu... [02:52] boxerboy29: apt-get calls dpkg to do it's installing [02:52] another one with the xorg :( [02:53] it is in master position === Tartaros [n=icechat5@r4s251.chello.upc.cz] has joined #ubuntu === nomasteryoda|w [n=nomaster@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:53] commrules: Try F2 and hopefully you'll get a login prompt [02:53] i tried dpkg -i package name [02:53] and is alone in the cable [02:53] commrules: ctrl+atl+f1 to get into console [02:53] nalioth: i have fixed cedega in breezy [02:53] DVSoftware: I believe I did that force-architecture eventually [02:53] cannot access archive: no such file [02:53] DVSoftware: cool [02:53] the problem is in nvidia drivers or xorg, im not sure [02:53] it sitting on my damn desktop [02:54] boxerboy29: you need to have the deb in your current directory [02:54] and 'mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0' doesn't work? [02:54] but i have copied few files from chroot in lib32 [02:54] how do i do that? [02:54] edwin, and 'mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0' doesn't work? [02:54] ok ya'll... i have to scoot for a little while... meeting some friends for dinner... ;) [02:54] just put that file in usr file? === server [n=server@210.213.190.90] has joined #ubuntu [02:54] night linner [02:54] comrules .... is it SIS based? [02:54] talk with ya'll later :) [02:54] ctrl-alt-f2 from grub or once I load Ubuntu [02:55] boxerboy29: cd ~/Desktop [02:55] commrules: once you load [02:55] commrules: after you booted [02:55] ouroboros: do you have access to tgz cedega package? [02:55] zoe: media not found [02:55] hello [02:55] hi server === glyph [n=glyph@c-24-61-138-211.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:55] that dont work either [02:55] hello people [02:56] hallo [02:56] no such file or directory === nxv__ [n=nxv_@dsl-084-056-099-153.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:56] its an Acer Aspire 1694, x700 vidcard, intel === Linner [n=Linner@71.243.221.75] has left #ubuntu [] [02:56] stop helloing === fossa [n=nate@cpe-065-190-116-006.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:56] Ok, when i go to netstat, how do i end one of the connections? [02:56] edwin, the drive worked in Mandrake? [02:56] DVSoftware yes my friend gave me cedega_4.4-1.i386.tar.gz eventually, in high hopes [02:56] DVSoftware, hello :) [02:56] ouroboros: have you tried to unpack it in / [02:56] ? === VictoR [n=Victor@CPE001310757639-CM000f9f7f0f78.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:56] ? [02:57] hmm [02:57] I believe I've done this [02:57] well let's play with chroot then [02:57] but i386...that should be for chroot, no? [02:57] nope [02:57] ohhh [02:57] anyone know how to delete a device shown by iwconfig? [02:57] just unpack it to your / [02:57] damn this hybrid disaster === qeqe [n=john@201.243.29.13] has joined #ubuntu [02:57] very well [02:58] ouroboros: and for chroot you have to mount cdrom manually [02:58] Ok, when i go to netstat, how do i end one of the connections? [02:58] mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom [02:58] help please: after remove rmmod "module_name". Will it come back after rebooted ? === Rylie [n=unnone@65-182-234-130.ccmtc.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:58] zoe, wait looks like it is working [02:58] thinman: yes === ark3qqq [n=ark3@ool-182e7609.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:58] thinman: it it's normally loaded at boot, yes === regeya [n=shane@dialup-4.159.108.218.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu === ratl3 [n=ratl3@12-222-130-142.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:59] what should i do to have it very fast on reboot ? === ratl3 [n=ratl3@12-222-130-142.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:59] mindframe: ??? if you want to show one device, then type 'iwconfig ath0' (or whatever your device is) === XiDuS [n=rugg@2001:4840:ffff:c013:204:5aff:fe7c:89f8] has joined #ubuntu [02:59] can i make a dos boot disk in linux? [03:00] IcemanV9, i want to delete one of them - its messing things up. (iwconfig shows eth1 and eth2 for the same wireless card) === ark3qqq [n=ark3@ool-182e7609.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ubuntu ["Outta] [03:00] goose_boy: if you have image file - yes [03:00] thinman: what do you mean "very fast"? [03:00] newb question: when i "ls" all I see is Desktop, and when i type sudo /etc/x11/xorg.conf it doesnt find it, what subdirectory do i need to be in to find xorg.conf [03:00] zoe, thaks it starting working after mount... it recognize it [03:00] mindframe: ahh. ok. sudo ifconfig ethx down [03:01] commrules: you can't execute config file [03:01] IcemanV9, yeah but eth2 isnt showing up w/ ifconfig [03:01] edwin, glad to hear. === N17R0 [n=w00t@unaffiliated/n17r0] has joined #ubuntu [03:01] I plugged in a Kodak EasyShare cx7530 - I get the "Import phots from camera?" dialog, but then when I say "yes!" i get "unknown model" [03:01] do sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf [03:01] is there a place to get more drivers? [03:01] IcemanV9, that didnt remove it from iwconfig anyway :( [03:01] karen: did you set it up in CUPS? === vader1102 [n=kevin@dsl-72-1-219.170.tel-ott.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:02] boxerboy29, set up the camera? [03:02] karen: try with gphoto2, but i think it's preety same thing === zwergnase [i=zwergnas@chello212017065017.11.15.vie.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu [03:02] karen: oh sorry i thought you ment the printer [03:02] i'll repeat myself [03:02] is anyone here using an iriver 5gb mp3? [03:02] anyone plays guild wars here? [03:02] mindframe: hmm. it should. which one is the right one eth1 or eth2? === administrador [n=administ@pc-158-185-86-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu === ColonelKernel [i=feelthel@24-205-124-191.dhcp.hspr.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:03] IcemanV9, eth1 is what i was using before installing breezy. its also the one i have configured in /etc/network/interfaces [03:03] Ok, when i go to netstat, how do i end one of the connections? [03:03] DVSoftware, how do i do it? === leopard [n=charm@kit-ppp-64.187.32.143.porchlight.ca] has joined #ubuntu [03:03] goose_boy: man dd === MaDsKiLLz [i=billy@unaffiliated/madskillz] has joined #ubuntu === redir [n=reed@70.88.128.138] has joined #ubuntu [03:04] also, any idea why lsusb doesn't show the camera? [03:04] DvSoftware: changed the Driver "ati" to Driver "vesa" (which is what I was told to do), how do I save&quit from this editor? [03:04] mindframe: breezy? i am not there yet. heard it was much improved over hoary. however, you should be using network manager to take care of it. [03:04] ctrl+x [03:04] and answer y [03:04] and enter [03:05] mindframe: that's what i have learned from others (who using breezy) [03:05] DVSoftware: I owe you a bottle [03:05] IcemanV9, ive tried that :( [03:05] ouroboros: :D === ouroboros is a noob [03:05] well that's one down [03:06] DVSoftware, wgat software do i use to put a floppy image on a disk? === DVSoftware has studied cedega, wine, and other shit [03:06] IcemanV9, i wish i knew why the hell it was even detecting eth2 [03:06] goose_boy: dd === ouroboros starts shaking (been without games...too long) [03:06] shit dd? [03:06] bob2, my friend has an Iriver 5 gb MP3 player and from what I have read, they say that it should be mounted as a usb hard drive but it isn't any ideas? [03:06] i have no idea how to use dd [03:06] man dd [03:06] goose_boy, dd if=image_file of=/mnt/floppy [03:06] goose_boy: read man page [03:06] man dd [03:07] mindframe: hmm. wished i could help ya more. [03:07] vader1102: when it is plugged in it should be detected as a scsi device [03:07] dbzdeath, thank you [03:07] goose_boy: if == "in file", of == "out file" [03:07] when i plug in [03:07] usb hard drive [03:07] vader1102: if you need anymore help just ask :) === iiHuiilde [n=oeitieei@g89-45.citenet.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:07] icon shows on desktop === iiHuiilde [n=oeitieei@g89-45.citenet.net] has left #ubuntu [] === IcemanV9 gotta go - bbl === TraceGreen [n=Trace@221.218.30.157] has joined #ubuntu [03:08] dbzdeath, thanx ;-) === markg24 [n=mark@64.241.37.140] has joined #ubuntu [03:08] is it possible to do a net-install of debian, then switch the repos to ubuntu and install gnome,x,etc? [03:09] ColonelKernel, that'd be cool. [03:09] ColonelKernel -- I tried that with warty and didn't have much success ... [03:09] DVSoftware: big question, installing patches for games, etc? [03:09] ouroboros: it depends === anthony [n=anthony@c-24-7-216-240.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:09] for example patching wow is a bit tricky [03:09] im not particularly stoked on the startup process of Ubuntu since it doesnt allow for the use of vanilla kernels 2.6.13+, it needs devfs+tmpfs support for my setup to work properly [03:09] DVSoftware: hmm, well I'm testing Ultima 9 for s+g's [03:09] but others should do fine [03:10] ouroboros: i have problem with guild wars [03:10] does any one want to help set up a helpless persons wireless card [03:10] ubuntu IS the most up-to-date distro ive found though, aside from the kernel [03:10] i've bought it today [03:10] and i can't play it [03:10] umm my sound in xmms just got really f-d up [03:10] DVSoftware: There's a 1.19 patch for it - you would just cedega the patch file? [03:10] anthony - what kind of wireless? === holycow [n=a@S0106000fb51e6051.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:10] what can i do about this? :/ [03:10] because of stupid recent patch that breaks cedega support [03:10] esp w breezy comig out [03:10] Ok, when i go to netstat, how do i end one of the connections? [03:10] what do you mean by that [03:10] so I installed gphoto2 - shouldn't it have added a menu item for the app? [03:10] wireless g? [03:11] ouroboros: yep [03:11] sweet [03:11] anthony -- chipset? === rlo [n=reed@70.88.128.138] has joined #ubuntu [03:11] broadcom [03:11] karen: gphoto2 is console app [03:11] i have the driver and everything [03:11] ok - what version of ubuntu? [03:11] I'm moving a bunch of photos around and nautilus is very crashy & hangy. Anyone else seeing that? (breezy) === matty91 [n=matty@c-24-98-83-96.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [03:12] 5.04 [03:12] MarcN -- nautilus has left me hangin' recently too ... [03:12] w00t [03:12] anthony -- ok [03:12] anthony - have you installed ndiswrapper-utils? [03:12] anthony: can you drop me url to download broadcom wireless driver? [03:12] damn how do i mount a preformated floppy ? [03:12] markg24: man, i've been using nautilus since the Eazel days and it always has been problamatic. [03:12] dbzdeath, nope it doesn't see a scsi device [03:12] goose_boy: i think that output should be /dev/fd [03:12] MarcN -- no kidding!! [03:12] DVSoftware, ah. this page says the cx7530 is supported - do I just need to find a more recient ver? http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=10521&max_rows=25&style=nested&viewmonth=200506 [03:13] i just took it off of a windows cd, it is the .inf file right [03:13] maybe [03:13] anthony - you have to use ndiswrapper === MarcN trying to fix up photo directories (17k+ photos) before turning it over to f-spot. [03:13] karen: if you install gphoto2 it will be resourced by GUI camera picture browser apps like gtkam and digikam [03:13] i know [03:13] anthony: i don't have win cd handy [03:13] ok -- so you did ndiswrapper -i xxxx.inf [03:13] when i do mount /media/floppy it says i have to specify a file type [03:13] can you drop me an email ? [03:13] vader1102: hmmm type.... dmesg and see what it says after you have plugged it in with comparison to before [03:13] with driver attached? [03:13] ok [03:13] delire, thats what I was hoping for - thanks [03:14] karen: you won't need to use the console.. [03:14] anthony - and then you did ndiswrapper -m [03:14] yeah and when i try to do the ndiswrapper -m it says that there is already an alias created [03:14] I am relaying as you put it in [03:14] usb 1-1.2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 10 [03:14] ok -- if you type iwconfig what does it list? === jorock [n=jorock@adsl-64-169-2-186.dsl.renocs.nvbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:15] does anyone have ati drivers working in breezy? [03:15] ? [03:15] anthony -- I've found with ndiswrapper that sometimes it will all 'install' but if it doesn't list the essid properly then it's not working right [03:15] what file system should i specify? === Versed` [i=Versed@69.253.173.154] has joined #ubuntu [03:15] goose_boy: do not mount it [03:15] jorock: I have an ati mobility rage something in this laptop. breezey okay now that udev is working better. [03:15] write image to /dev/fd [03:15] markg24 lo no wireless extensions. [03:16] eth0 no wireless extensions. [03:16] sit0 no wireless extensions. [03:16] DVSoftware, i have have two regular files i have to put on a different floppy [03:16] wait a minute [03:16] anthony -- did you modprobe ndiswrapper? [03:16] when i try to do that it gives me a error message [03:16] does hoary use devfs and breezy use udev? [03:16] dbzdeath, it is in #flood inder the nick ksn [03:16] one sec i will send it to you [03:16] what error message? [03:16] karen: when you installed gphoto2 you probably automatically installed 'libgphoto2-2' which contains a very large number of 'drivers' for dealing with many different cameras. ensure you have this, or a more recent version onboard. [03:16] goose_boy: than use -t vfat i think === ColonelKernel prepares to blast himself in the grill [03:16] say it again in flood vader1102 please [03:16] FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted [03:17] ok === tcwd [n=Edward@unaffiliated/tcwd] has joined #ubuntu [03:17] dbzdeath: vader was relaying the message for me. The new info is: usb 1-1.2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 10 [03:17] dbzdeath, there ya go [03:17] well it was detected [03:18] Finaly got ubunto to load, trying to install wireless & ethernet, when I installed ubuntu I did it with: nolapic apci=off , durring install it gave me a warning that my ethernet was disabled by me and therefore couldnt autodetect my wirless, I tried activating both ethernet & wireless to active, but i still have no internet [03:18] vader1102: sudo fdisk -l [03:18] see if it comes up anywhere [03:18] Yeah, just it seems to have no idea what the device is unforunately/ [03:18] leopard: yeah i was just thinking that... [03:18] dbzdeath, talk to leopard he is the one I was talking about [03:18] markg24 any suggestions [03:19] leopard: hmmm what device is it? [03:19] !tell pc22 about cups [03:19] dbzdeath: just my normal partitions. It's an iRiver H10 with the latest firmware update. [03:19] !tell pc22 about samba [03:19] delire, how do I tell if the gphoto2 I installed from Synaptic has the cx7530 driver? [03:19] hopefully just need to load the module [03:19] leopard: ok h10... give me a sec [03:19] Anyone? does hoary use devfs and breezy use Udev and thats why vanilla 2.6.13+ kernels act fecally when I try them out? [03:19] !tell boman about samba [03:20] !botsnack [03:20] thanks vader1102 :) [03:20] dbzdeath: thanks. [03:20] karen: check here http://www.gphoto.org/news/ [03:20] good nite ppl === Kazuhiro [n=paul@202.4.235.65] has joined #ubuntu [03:20] in bash, when I'm typing a command name, I can use TAB to complete it. gnome-ter expands to gnome-terminal. but if I put "sudo" first, I can't get TAB to complete the sudo command. is there a way? [03:20] DVSoftware: night [03:21] I want "sudo gnome-ter" to expand to "sudo gnome-terminal" === ghostdog_ [n=ghostdog@203.177.237.244] has joined #ubuntu [03:21] delire, cx7530 is listed on sf.net, but I am wondering what ver is in breezy repos === Phuzion [n=Oddness@69-168-170-76.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:21] how do you get rid of the ~ before the $ in the terminal? [03:21] boxerboy29: that's your current directory. you can get rid of it by "cd /" [03:21] ok any one want to help a guy with wireless problems === Kazuhiro [n=paul@202.4.235.65] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:21] karen: if i were you i'd just ensure that libghoto2 is installed (from gphoto2), plug in the camera and start gtkam or digikam. [03:22] ty [03:22] boxerboy29: or type PS1="$ " [03:22] anthony: what is the problem [03:22] that'll give you a very minimal prompt [03:22] delire, will do [03:22] is there a way to see the what failed/passed durring bootup of Ubuntu (I need to check what failed), im at the login screen now === gach [n=gach@201.243.140.30] has joined #ubuntu [03:22] karen: a good trick for monitoring the system on a device level is 'sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog' [03:22] commrules: I wish there was. [03:22] hello my dear frinds [03:23] leopard: paste the output of sudo lsmod in flood please [03:23] anthony: if your on a laptop, we all have wirless problems [03:23] karen: not necessary but good for actually seeing what your kernel sees when you plug in the device. === ssdd65 [n=tepus6@pool-151-204-94-187.delv.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:23] #flood even [03:23] jazzykay: well when ever i try to install the driver when i get to the modprobe ndiswrapper part it gives me an error [03:23] so there is no way to get it working === ColonelKernel humbly and pathetically begs for some assistance [03:23] anthony: where did you install ndiswrapper from and what version are you running [03:23] ColonelKernel: just ask :) [03:23] dooglus, does hoary use devfs and breezy use Udev and thats why vanilla 2.6.13+ kernels act fecally when I try them out? [03:23] how do i mount a external tape drive on my parrallel port? === robotgeek [n=robotgee@adsl-70-250-184-230.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:23] i installed it from source and a i have 1.3 [03:24] well ubuntu didnt recognize my soundcard === DewDudeII [n=dewdude@pool-71-114-86-76.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:24] im using hoary now [03:24] and i cant see alsaconf script [03:24] ColonelKernel: as far as I remember they both use udev. [03:24] leopard: actually ... what firmware === holycow [n=a@S0106000fb51e6051.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:24] ColonelKernel: i think udev is going to be hairy in Ubuntu (and especially on new kernels) until breezy moves out of beta and goes gold. [03:24] so.... what can i do to configure sound again? [03:24] anthony: believe it or not.. i installed mine from synaptic and it worked for me pretty nicely [03:24] leopard: european or american [03:24] how do i mount a external tape drive on my parrallel port? [03:24] ugh - so I gotta stick to ubuntu sources for now [03:25] Where can I get an adblock file of sites with that annoying flash pop-up hack [03:25] anthony: what happens when you do an ndiswrapper -i driver ? [03:25] ColonelKernel: is this a custom kernel? [03:25] it just gives me a list of all the options [03:25] hey [03:25] anthony: do you have your wireless card driver cd? [03:25] yes [03:25] GhostFreeman: if you're using FF use the extensions Flashblock and Adblock [03:25] how can i reconfigure my sound card? [03:25] delire, yeah - but the config is fine, i am pretty good w getting kernels to work, 2.6.13+ dont have devfs or tmpfs so ubuntu has probs with them [03:25] GhostFreeman: http://www.pierceive.com/ is good [03:26] anthony: i am using a linkysys wmp54g [03:26] i have the all the files including the inf file on my hard drive [03:26] delire, I can send or post my config if you'd like [03:26] GhostFreeman: that's the home of filterset.g, a good list of adblock filters [03:26] dbdeath: 2.10 american [03:26] dbzdeath: posted lsmod in #flood [03:26] this will help === misterdiff [n=ruben@101.202.27.24.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:26] ColonelKernel: well if you are using custom kernels you're on your own there! i also do this. [03:26] and i'll check out Flashblock [03:26] how do i mount a external tape drive on my parrallel port === chrissturm [n=chris@85-124-174-71.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu [03:26] delire, any chance of there being a .deb? (I could apt...build-ess... but ya know...) [03:26] gach: no alsaconf in Ubuntu (as with debian). [03:26] anthony: so what happens when you type ndiswrapper -i location.of.driver/driver [03:26] anyoen know what nolapic or apci=off does? did it prevent ubunto from autodetecting my wireless card? I thought these two commands were to disable Battery,lcd lid closing, and other useless laptop features [03:26] leopard: thats why... http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-62389.html read that... iriver i am disappointed... i have a h340 which has great linux support [03:26] GhostFreeman: also, if you use firefox 1.50 beta, they've fixed the flash-popup hole [03:26] karen: a deb of..? [03:26] delire, yeah its not the kernel .config tho, hoary isnt stoked with 2.6.13+ kernels [03:27] dbzdeath: I wonder if I can roll back the firmware. I think I remember at least seeing a scsi device before the upgrade...argh! [03:27] ColonelKernel: no it's not.. [03:27] delire, current gphoto2 [03:27] so delire... what can i do to configure sound? [03:27] I'm tempted to [03:27] ColonelKernel: it's a couple of versions ahead. [03:27] jazzykay: i get this root@Anthony:/home/anthony # ndiswrapper -i /home/anthony/Windows Drivers/WLAN1/bcmwl5.inf [03:27] Usage: ndiswrapper OPTION [03:27] Manage ndis drivers for ndiswrapper. [03:27] -i inffile Install driver described by 'inffile' [03:27] -d pciid driver Use installed 'driver' for 'pciid' [03:27] but FF in Ubuntu is bad enough as is [03:27] -e driver Remove 'driver' [03:27] -l List installed drivers [03:27] -m Write configuration for modprobe [03:27] -hotplug (Re)Generate hotplug information [03:27] root@Anthony:/home/anthony # [03:27] anthony: don't [aste in here! [03:27] sorry [03:27] leopard: the last post pointing to a thread on misticriver.net seems most relevant [03:27] why not [03:27] karen: have you tried your camera with the current one? really things start to get unstable when using packages from debian unstable (which is where you'd end up ;) [03:28] !tell anthony about pastebin [03:28] how do i mount a external tape drive on my parrallel port [03:28] GhostFreeman: bad? [03:28] delire, everything else is so up to date though, at least compared to other distros, I hope breezy does better with them [03:28] GhostFreeman: what's back with it? [03:28] anthony. i have the same card as you.. [03:28] delire, yup. same thing. [03:28] dbzdeath, thanx for helping him [03:28] it freezes up a lot on my end [03:28] ColonelKernel: it will. [03:28] I might switch to gentoo if not [03:28] how do i configure sound.... === jimurine [n=jimurine@71-36-179-25.phnx.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:28] delire, thank the linux gods [03:28] karen: ok so it's not working with the current gphoto [03:28] jazzykay: ok so what do you suggest i do [03:28] then again, i am on a 600MHz Celery with 256MB RAM [03:28] whats the 192.168.0.1 ---->> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently? [03:28] GhostFreeman: I downloaded a 1.50 binary from mozilla.org and it's been fine. [03:28] what does nolapic or apci=off do? [03:28] ColonelKernel: yes thank them ;) [03:29] I should check 1.5 out [03:29] hey i can't run shell commands with superuser privelages in the terminal, there's no root password [03:29] my centos server is 2.6.14-rc1 and it runs great [03:29] GhostFreeman: it seems to crash quite reliably when I quit it, but that's only once a day, so no big deal. [03:29] im using 1.0.5 === misterdiff [n=ruben@101.202.27.24.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === newbling [n=cage@h24-207-8-227.dlt.dccnet.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:29] I love using a really up to date kernel [03:29] i like compiling my own [03:29] how do i reconfigure sound please!!! [03:29] dbzdeath: H10 Modding/Hacking? [03:29] !tell jimurine about sudo [03:29] sudo? [03:29] delire, I found http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/pool/main/g/gphoto2/ which has a deb dated after my camera was added - is that safe? [03:29] once you learn how to do it its like learning how to repair your own transmission [03:29] karen: do this 'sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog' and plug in the camera. [03:29] sudo su - === nba [n=nba@pppN1L1.evis.net.ph] has joined #ubuntu [03:29] ;p [03:30] gach, just give them a few, if they kbow, they will answer [03:30] leopard: Devices running UMS firmware are compatible with generic USB Mass Storage drivers <--- you want the UMS firmware... http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=14853 <--- thats a howto [03:30] ColonelKernel: or rather it's like learning how to go to #garage and beg for help :) [03:30] anyone got a link to download ndiswrapper? [03:30] karen: well no, it's from an external repository. best to stick with Ubuntu or compile from source. it will mess up your dependencies. [03:30] leopard: UMS firmware has disadvantages which are addressed in that thread [03:30] anthony: here is the url i used: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto [03:30] no way! [03:30] thnks vader [03:30] dbzdeath: thanks a million. [03:30] i would try the ndiswrapper avaiable from synaptic. [03:30] gach, yw [03:30] i need to know how to get rid of a alias directive [03:30] HOW DO I RECONFIGURE SOUND PLEase!!! [03:30] gach: what is not working? [03:30] ive had 2 glasses of wine in the last 3 hours and im drunk. [03:31] karen: better to compile from source, and install a checkinstall deb. it's safer than a debian binary! [03:31] make sure your driver and you have the right privielege [03:31] leopard: your welcome.. good luck [03:31] Hey, can anyone tell me what the blurb at the top of /etc/X11/xorg.conf means? If find it a bit unclear; all I want to do is hand-edit the file and see if it helps my 'ugly font' problem. Anyone? [03:31] i think they recommend sudo -s from the command line.. [03:31] delire, last line of i/var/log/syslog s libgphoto2: loaded successfully [03:31] sudo su - [03:31] delire... my sound card.. does not get detected [03:31] how do i know if i have the right privielege [03:31] gach: there is no configuration script for sound in ubuntu, nothing like alsaconfig.. [03:31] i repeat [03:31] problem solved [03:31] nothing else very interesting [03:31] does not get detected [03:31] ok [03:31] gach: right.. lspci. what is the card? [03:32] so delire... what should i do [03:32] I have an intel pro/2200bg, should ubuntu autodetect my wireless? [03:32] jack-: sudo -s is the recommended method IIRC [03:32] is a sis 7018 === vinboy [n=vinboy@60-234-137-136.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu [03:32] doh: dialup at home...until Tuesday, gawd this is slow... === ghostdog__ [n=ghostdog@203.177.249.137] has joined #ubuntu [03:32] Xenguy: it's just about how to generate that file again. back up xorg.conf somewhere, and edit at will [03:32] karen: right good. do you see the name of your camera in the output? [03:32] robotgeek: hrm [03:32] delire, nope [03:32] xenguy, ok..but it has its disadantages [03:32] karen: ok, regardless, just start up gtkam or digikam and see if it works. [03:32] sudo -s didnt work [03:32] hi [03:32] hello everybody [03:32] it always recognizes it === cute_bettong [n=shane@24-177-148-2.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:33] sos pls [03:33] how do I disbale the window maximise and minimise animation [03:33] dbzdeath: I'm going to revert it back to 1.00, I think I at least remember seeing a SCSI device then. [03:33] it said i cant excute binary file [03:33] robotgeek: OK, so I'll backup the file of course, but can I then just edit, save, and re-start X ? [03:33] gach: modprobe -l | grep snd [03:33] but... somehow i think i pressed esc when the detection program was running [03:33] delire, I don't have gtkam or digikam [03:33] and maybe that was it [03:33] jack-: any major disadvantage? [03:33] leopard: ah ok well you should google and see if reverting firmware can cause any problems [03:33] Xenguy: yup [03:33] ok i updated the last day or so and now something happend and i get a blue screen [03:33] anthony: unalias [03:33] maybe just search misticriver.net [03:33] and i can't get into my desktop [03:33] karen: right, install one or the other. the first is gtk based, the second, KDE or qt based. [03:33] how to fix [03:33] and it's breezy [03:34] just installed ubuntu [03:34] cute_bettong: if u use gnome, did u try a different wm? [03:34] robotgeek: and is there a danger of it being overwritten during a subsequent upgrade, or other risks? [03:34] anythony: you could not sudo -s from a terminal to bring up a root prompt? [03:34] off we go... [03:34] karen: these appications are fairly 'automagical' with cameras. [03:34] xserver is broken [03:34] Xenguy: it doesnt touch it if you customize it [03:34] yea for magic [03:34] xenguy: the timeout for example [03:34] i can't play yahoo launchcast radio [03:34] cute_bettong: oops [03:34] whats wpa? [03:34] robotgeek: I see - thanks for clarifying [03:34] and yes but i don't want to polloute my menus in gnome [03:34] delire.. [03:34] after 5 mins or so, you're not root anymore [03:34] gach: do you have the drivers for the card loaded? [03:34] delire i got all the kernel drivers [03:34] jack-: ah, OK, I see what you mean [03:34] so i kinda don't wanna install fluxbox [03:34] nba: AFAIK, you can't. active X required === psusi [n=psusi@103.202.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === mindframe [n=mindfram@ip68-11-240-218.br.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:34] !tell jimurine XFree86Config [03:35] i prefer a permanent root shell, if i need one [03:35] gach: go to alsa-project.org and check in the card database to ensure it is supported. [03:35] too confusing with that sudo shit === Faithful [n=Faithful@202-6-145-116.ip.adam.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:35] jack-: me too actually [03:35] and it's now whining about some sorta sound int error [03:35] jack: you can enable root but it is not recommened [03:35] jack-: it's not confusing [03:35] where's the XFree86Config file at again? /etc/X11...? [03:35] gach: 'play /path/to/a/sound.wav' doesn't work? [03:35] hi guys [03:35] is ther ea way to convert ntfs to ext3? [03:35] jack-: actually I meant a real root account (set in my ways I guess :-) [03:35] so can someone help me get gnome back up? [03:35] jimurine: it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf [03:35] delire... i dont have the mixer applet [03:35] jazzykay i know, i did ;p [03:35] I'm trying to set up the raw device to do some hard disk benchmarks with dd but when I ask dd to read from the raw device with a block size that is a multiple of the sector size, it says /dev/raw0: invalid argument... what gives? [03:35] how will i do that robotgeek === Bicchi [n=AB@adsl-065-006-167-199.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:35] Xenguy: there's a reason why there's a sudo [03:36] delire so i guess i dont have the modules loaded [03:36] nba: you can't [03:36] oh xorg, ok thanks [03:36] gach: check if you have oss/alsa/esd in your perferences/multimedia systems selector [03:36] delire is there a way to run ubuntu's hardware detection again= === cute_bettong is now known as ChurcH_of_FoamY [03:36] ? [03:36] jack: :-) good for yah === johndavid [n=johndavi@pool-70-104-19-92.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === galgo [n=carlos@pc-242-199-239-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:36] robotgeek: I've read the web site blurb, and it seems to be a moot point [03:36] so is there some way to fix the gnome problem with xserver? [03:36] vinboy: it's easy to convert ntfs to ext3. the trick is, no data survives [03:36] robotgeek: but to each their own [03:36] gach: not really.. [03:36] im installing the Nvidia drivers and i need to know how to kill the X serv? [03:36] cual es el canal en espaol [03:36] Xenguy: :) [03:37] galgo: #ubuntu-es [03:37] u mean i can't play launchcast radio robotgeek? [03:37] gach: what is the name of your card again? [03:37] there used to be a guide for ubuntu but i can not find it. does anyone knows the website. it was www.ubuntuguide.com i think [03:37] nba: yup :( [03:37] jonhdavid : CTRL ALT BACKSPACE [03:37] why [03:37] Bicchi: it's down [03:37] Bicchi: they're moving, or something. [03:37] doesnt that just log me out? [03:37] gach: quick, it's late here. [03:37] is it init 5 that closes X and goes to command prompt? [03:37] no.. it kills you x session and restarts it === galgo [n=carlos@pc-242-199-239-201.cm.vtr.net] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] === andika [n=g@202.95.133.6] has joined #ubuntu [03:37] nba: complain to yahoo! active x is windows only [03:37] dooglus: are they part of ubuntu or is it a different entity? [03:37] i need to kill the X serv in order to install the nvidia drivers [03:37] i see === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:38] thanks [03:38] if you use synaptic you don't [03:38] johndavid: me too so let's listen up [03:38] Bicchi: it's an independant site. many here seem to dislike it, since it just gives 'recipes' without any understanding. === ChurcH_of_FoamY reluctantly gets fluxbox === macintoshr [n=gm@211.cust2.sa.dsl.ozemail.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:38] >.< [03:38] !tell jimurine init [03:38] i used snaptic to get mine and i was in my gui :-) [03:38] nba: though, you can try funky stuff with wine, but i havent done that. can't help u there! [03:38] anyone know why my junk filters dont work in thunderbird in ubuntu? ive configured it the exact same way as i had it in windows. [03:38] let me get you the howto from wiki [03:38] johndavid: run "sudo telinit 1" in a shell? [03:38] im sad. gtkam, add camera lists the cx7530, but it is still sad [03:38] johndavid: that will close everything and take you to single user mode [03:39] so anyone have any idea whats going on with xserver and gnome? [03:39] gach: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-SiS#matrix [03:39] here is the wiki i used: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29 [03:39] so i need to run level 1 not 3? [03:39] robotgeek: is there other radio station supported by ubuntu? [03:39] and how to help me? [03:39] karen: what does 'sad' mean. more info.. [03:39] johndavid: "telinit 2" to get gdm running again [03:39] k ill try it [03:39] thanks [03:39] brb [03:39] karen: hate to be such a robot, but it will help ;) [03:39] johndavid: in ubuntu levels 2 and 3 are the same, unfortunately [03:39] johndavid: in a sane system, 2 would be command line and 3 would be gdm [03:39] robotgeek: we're testing our newly installed ubuntu here [03:39] brb [03:39] johndavid: but ubuntu has gdm in 2 and 3 [03:40] Anyone know why Firefox doesn't want to start on the liveCD version? It'll try to load, then stop and I don't see the PID in TOP. I had it open before and closed it - I'd hate to resetart the session === NeverDream [n=neverdre@pcp03628118pcs.nftmyr01.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:40] robotheek: we can't play mp3 either [03:40] nba shoutcast [03:40] dbzdeath: Got it!!! All I had to do was remove the battery for a minute, hold down the O key and then turn the puppy on, up came the /media/usbdisk -- Thanks!!! [03:40] robotgeek: wats the website [03:40] nba: www.shoutcast.com [03:41] robotgeek: thanks a lot === cafuego_ hacks teh gibson [03:42] delire, in "Add camear" is model: kodak cx7530 - I hit "apply" and get "could not initialize the camera" [03:42] Deekin; Run it from a terminal, check output. === jorgp3 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-211.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:42] I have an Intel Pro/Wireless 2200bg, is this equivalent to ipw2200? or am i better off installin ndiswrapper? << === cute_bettong [n=shane@24-177-148-2.dhcp.mrqt.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:43] karen: with some cameras you need to set them in PC mode, or turn them off (believe it or not). [03:43] no it won't let me into fluxbox either [03:43] i have text only [03:43] >.< [03:43] cute_bettong: check /var/log/xorg.log.0 or something [03:43] cute_bettong: or .xsession-errors [03:43] karen: try running gtkam using sudo. eg 'sudo gtkam'. this will ensure there aren't permissions problems at work here. === Gorth [n=Gorth@c-24-1-206-136.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:44] something is wrong it goes to the invidia logo and then kicks back into the text and repeats the same sequince a few times [03:44] hey guys! [03:44] and then has an xserver errpr [03:44] commrules: yes it is === aatim [n=aatim@202.138.138.20] has joined #ubuntu [03:44] error even [03:44] what's a good program for making ISOs? [03:44] commrules: i have this same card. [03:44] or BINs or whatever [03:44] i have no gui capabilitys whatso ever >.< [03:44] cute_bettong: Yeah, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for lines atrting with (EE) [03:44] delire, how come lsusb doesn't show it? and yet something knows a camera is plugged in cuz the "import photos" dialog comes up when I plug it in [03:44] ok [03:44] delire: is there any disadvantage to using ndiswrapper vs. ipw2200? [03:44] Gorth: mkisofs ? === e1vis [n=user@m010f36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #ubuntu === goose_boy [n=arehman@cpe-24-193-236-131.ucwphilly.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:44] how do i do that from text mode [03:44] thanks cafuego! [03:44] i'm not used to this [03:44] hey where is azureus? its not in the repos? [03:44] prot0col had the same error, i think. maybe, even an error on bugzilla [03:45] commrules: Yes, ndiswrapper is satan, ipw220 is not. [03:45] commrules: ndiswrapper really sucks and you'll miss out on alot of the ipw2200 goodness. i run debian on my laptop with the ipw2200 using the ipw2200.sf.net drivers. [03:45] Cafuego: bin] $ ./firefox [03:45] INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: JavaPluginFactory5 init - no agent? [03:45] System error?:: No such file or directory === P229 [n=P229@pool-141-156-220-85.res.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:45] karen: strange yes.. === aatim is now known as aatim_esbese [03:45] karen: try running 'gphoto2' from the command line. anything? [03:46] delire, big page of help === lui [n=ubuntu@27sosua109.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu [03:46] karen: make that 'gphoto2 --summary' [03:46] I asked earlier how to get commands after 'sudo' on the command line to complete in bash. I found out. You run: "complete -c sudo" in your .bashrc [03:46] hi guys [03:46] erm [03:46] Deekin: Check the plugins dirs for java related crud, then remove them. [03:46] where do i get azeurus? [03:46] does mkisofs make an ISO from an already existing CD? [03:46] *** Error (-105: 'Unknown model') *** [03:47] Gorth: No, you do that using 'dd'. [03:47] cafuego: hmmm, ok....*wanders off to Moz dir...* [03:47] karen: it's not detected. [03:47] ah [03:47] anyone know why my junk filters dont work in thunderbird in ubuntu? ive configured it the exact same way as i had it in windows. [03:47] thatnks cafuego_! [03:47] Gorth: dd if=/dev/hdc of=foo.iso [03:47] can I see my linux hda1 from the live cd? [03:47] karen: ok.. have you used this camera on windows/OSX? [03:47] is ext3 better than ext2? [03:47] yes. works in win98 [03:47] mindframe: have you trained it? [03:47] hit return, wait, done. Does not work for Audio CDs. === andika [n=g@202.95.133.6] has joined #ubuntu [03:47] untll win98 bit it ;) === sproingie [i=foobar@64-121-2-59.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:47] vinboy: ext3 is the same as ext2 but with journaling added. it's better. [03:47] vinboy: No. It's also not worse. [03:48] karen: hmm well it will work in Linux.. a canon? [03:48] nalioth, yes ive been trying to, but it seems like its taking so damn long. it wont learn anything. [03:48] cool [03:48] cafuego_, hello man, can you help me? [03:48] vinboy: but reiserfs is what you really need :) [03:48] lui: yes, you can see hda1 from the livecd. Just mount it. [03:48] mindframe: if you have your windows t-bird user setting directory, ..... [03:48] karen: can you 'sudo modprobe usbcore && depmod -ae' for me? [03:48] reiserfs... two minds on that.. [03:48] vinboy: don't listen to dooglus [03:48] dooglus, really??.. but how do i get that??? [03:48] karen: sorry 'sudo depmod -ae' [03:48] cafuego, lol [03:48] i never liked it [03:48] vinboy: don't listen to me [03:49] reiserfs is not actually very fast AND it fails a lot. [03:49] ok ok [03:49] cafuego_, like sudo mount /dev/hda1? [03:49] cafuego_: it does not! [03:49] vinboy: read up on both and find out which one you want [03:49] i cant find Azureus in synaptic? [03:49] k [03:49] i'll google it [03:49] where can i get it? [03:49] delire, so sudo modprobe usbcore && depmod -ae ? [03:49] lui Yeah, except add a mount point and filesystem type. (man mount) [03:49] vinboy: reiserfs is built into the kernel, just like ext2 and ext3 [03:49] vinboy: ext3 is invariably the preferred FS for desktop Linux installs. [03:49] karen: should be *sudo depmod -ae [03:49] cafuego_, ok [03:50] goose_boy: azureus uses java so i believe it was not bundled.. some people who have been using it longer may give another story [03:50] ok.. thanks guys [03:50] delire, done. === sinned [n=sinned@68-186-54-49.dhcp.mghl.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:50] vinboy: if this is the first time.. stay with ext3 :-) [03:50] karen: now try 'sudo gtkam' and see what happens === _n00blar_ [n=_n00blar@adsl-067-034-107-207.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu === nba_ [n=nba@pppN1L1.evis.net.ph] has joined #ubuntu [03:51] yup i'm a newbie here [03:51] goose_boy: google azureus and download it after you have java running [03:51] robotgeek: sorry dc [03:51] vinboy: there's a discussion here: http://linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/3726/1/ [03:51] our musicplayer can't play mp3 === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-65-15.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu === ghostdog__ [n=ghostdog@203.177.250.159] has joined #ubuntu === misterdiff is now known as crazysquirter === curious_kitt [n=kat@ppp40.dial-up.uoc.gr] has joined #ubuntu [03:52] delire, it detected it and I got pics! [03:52] karen: great ;) [03:53] anyone play with installing icon themes in gnome? [03:53] do you thin KDE might be better envornment for someone that is new to linux from windows [03:53] karen: it may be you need to have usbcore loaded. also ensure you use sudo with gtkam for the time being. [03:53] tell nba_ about mp3 [03:53] !tell nba_ about mp3 [03:53] delire, ok, so im in breezy (i know... i now...) think there is a bug in here? [03:53] goose_boy: i like kde and gnome both are very nice and easy. [03:53] ok here is what the error says === nomasteryoda|w [n=nomaster@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:53] ubotu tell goose_boy about azureus [03:53] karen: yes, likely. breezy is still 'beta'. === thewayofzen [n=delaney@mctnnbsa31w-142166118053.nb.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:53] goose_boy: stay away from fluxbox, enlightenment till later === ColonelKernel [i=feelthel@24-205-124-191.dhcp.hspr.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === andika [n=g@202.95.133.6] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:54] anyone else having trouble connecting to www.ubuntuguide.org [03:54] ubotu tell goose_boy about hoary-extras [03:54] Fatal Server Error: failes to initialize core deveices [03:54] is it gone for good.. will it be back.. etc? [03:54] i did last night.. but i can connect with a windows box no issues [03:54] robotgeek: our musicplayer can't play mp3 [03:54] robotgeek: wat seems the problem [03:54] anyone can possibly help with amd64 + hoary || trying to get direct rendering enabled on a.......a...... All in Wonder pro 128 (Rage128) - [noob tears] [03:54] and theres a few mouse things with (ee)in front [03:54] nba_: please read the link which ubotu sent you [03:54] ouroboros, old school card [03:54] but those are in regards to the mouse [03:54] def [03:55] waiting for $$$ for SLI 6800 (yeah right) [03:55] nothing wrong with a rage 128 if you want a tv tuner card or decent 2d [03:55] indeed! [03:55] that's the spirit [03:55] nothing wrong w it at all [03:55] anyone here get ipw2200 to work? I typed $ sudo dmesg | grep ipw , and it returned ipw2220: intel pro/wireless 2200/2815 newtork driver, 0.19 ..bla..blaa ipw2200: Radio Frequency Kill switch is on . But when i type iwconfig , it finds eth1 no wirless extensions ?? how do i get wireles to work === MrGardenHoseMan [n=hose@69.177.99.102] has joined #ubuntu === paco_reyes [n=paco_rey@dsl-201-129-132-237.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu [03:55] hmm, but how-to install such an ancient card? [03:55] ubuntuguide is down right now for me too [03:55] karen: i would say that if you are having problems of this kind after breezy goes 'gold', inform the developers and formally register a bug. [03:55] my server has a gf4mx440 and a bttv card - theres nothing wrong with sticking with what works [03:55] ubuntuguide.org has been down for days! [03:55] newbling: can u post your 'dmesg" output to the pastebin [03:55] !ubuntuguide [03:55] somebody said ubuntuguide was out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq. [03:55] and thats the only thing that /var/log/Xorg.0.log === kairu0 [n=steve@pd32873.sitmnt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu [03:55] newbling, ipw2200 support in breezy is greatly improved over hoary [03:55] karen: but for now, the problem is solveable. [03:55] is suns java packaged too? [03:55] says [03:55] I didnt mean old school as a negative thing [03:56] anyway, i'm out. good luck all. [03:56] the mirror site for ubuntuguide is up [03:56] indeed [03:56] olesk00l [03:56] [beers] [03:56] ye olde sk00l [03:56] back when KDE Was "Just released!" === NoHope [n=silas@201-13-44-89.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [03:56] surprisingly enough, the gf4mx440 runs things like et just fine and it does overlay properly , unlike my gf6600 [03:57] robotgeek: is there an online help re: office org [03:57] hmm === sinned [n=sinned@68-186-54-49.dhcp.mghl.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:57] ColonelKernel: that bites in ways [03:57] Hello [03:57] so can anyone help? [03:57] ouroboros, it really does [03:57] Can anyone help me setup 3d acceleration with an ATI card? [03:57] i've tried all of the guides === weo1 [n=weo@p5499EF16.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:57] and nothing is working [03:57] sinned what card? [03:57] 9600xt [03:58] ooo [03:58] I had the thing setup before [03:58] But I can't remember what I did [03:58] lmao [03:58] :/ [03:58] the ati 9800 pro did the same thing with overlay the 6600 does - I guess they use the 3d processor for doing overlay instead of the 2d stuff like they used to do [03:58] I had it setup and was playing wow and shit on it [03:58] I had amarok running on my last ubuntu hoary install...now the damn thing opens but no sound === vader1102 [n=kevin@dsl-72-1-219.170.tel-ott.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === oseb [n=oseb@211.208.15.204] has joined #ubuntu [03:58] nba_: try google, there are forums. dunno the link right now. plus, there should be a help file in open office [03:58] I discovered it using mplayer with xv [03:58] sinned: you hit up the ubuntuforums? [03:58] sinned, you followed the BinaryDriverHowto ? === smartass [n=smartass@S447.net.uoguelph.ca] has joined #ubuntu [03:58] Yes tritium [03:58] Didn't work [03:59] robotgeek: yeah there is [03:59] in what way? [03:59] hmm, makes sense ColonelKernel [03:59] Then I tried using the guide for the ati drivers from ati's site [03:59] 'Ugly font' problem solved: all I had to do was drop the colour in /etc/X11/xorg.conf from 24 to 16 [03:59] bwahaha [03:59] ouroboros, scary stuff though - it even does it in windows so I know its a hardware thing [03:59] tritium, sinned@spartan:~$ fglrxinfo [03:59] display: :0.0 screen: 0 [03:59] OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org [03:59] robotgeek: but i ahve prob encounterd in printing [03:59] nba_: are you on breezy? [03:59] where is pastebin? [03:59] mmm, they planned to conquer the world with their flashy 3d technology [03:59] robotgeek: wat u mean [04:00] and they're hip scalable link interfaces [04:00] nba_: what version of ubuntu linux are u using? [04:00] they're = their too [04:00] hell, if breezy can handle a 2.6.13+ kernel, i'll use the preview release until its released === Turicas [n=justen@20132232086.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [04:00] !tell newbling about pastebin [04:00] Can i upgrade to breezy from 5.04? [04:00] or do i have to reinstall [04:00] yes, newbling [04:00] newbling, thats a downgrade [04:00] robotgeek: 5.04 [04:01] cafuego_, I upgraded to breezy but now at the time to login the keyboard doesn't write nothing, like not working but it is working, you know what could be? [04:01] i thought breezy was 5.10 [04:01] hmm does anyone have a lexmark z23? === ouroboros needsa helpa (AMD64 / Hoary) need how-to for Ancient ATI All in Wonder pro 128 card - to enable direct rendering [04:01] for some reason it doesnt print === Toma- [n=lin4me@203-59-173-60.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === memin [n=memin@adsl-68-75-38-202.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:01] Bahahahaha! http://www.mega64.com/rcr.mpg [04:01] ouroboros: i think for dri you need to compile support into your kernel [04:02] vafuego: I yanked out javaplugin_oji.so from the plugins directory but no luck. Heck its easier to reboot it at this point :) [04:02] so anyone know why my xserver is busted based on what i said earlyer? [04:02] nba_: doesn't print to where? [04:02] oh man don't tell me that, sproingie [04:02] newbling, you can but wait breezy to be stable next month [04:02] newbling: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes [04:02] cafuego, rather, sorry === _|maddox_ [n=dox@a212-113-184-103.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu === seylan24f [n=myworld@58.69.55.135] has joined #ubuntu === seylan24f [n=myworld@58.69.55.135] has left #ubuntu [] [04:02] sinned, are you sure you followed this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ? [04:02] there's no uh, vi /etc/ati/.conf and added 1 instead of 0 for this? [04:02] robotgeek: it does print but not at my specified area [04:03] Very sure tritium === KingBahamut [n=bahamut@c-24-98-229-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:03] robotgeek: specifically the lower part of the paper [04:03] If anybody can help me: I upgraded to breezy but now at the time to login the keyboard doesn't write nothing, like not working but it is working, you know what could be? [04:03] nba_: i dunno much, please refer to the forums :( [04:03] robotgeek: ok, thanks anyway [04:03] i need to get my xserver back up and my gui [04:04] Anyone here running the Eclipse IDE on Breezy or Hoary on AMD64? [04:04] cute_bettong, what's the problem? [04:04] It doesn't pick up my Sun JDK when I enter it. === ksmurf [n=ksmurf@S0106000c76ba0623.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:05] wierd, if I log in as root, should the password be the same one as your normal login, for some reason mine isnt and i just installed ubuntu === acil_p_lazim [n=myworld@58.69.55.135] has joined #ubuntu [04:05] tritium i installed the updates on my box [04:05] should=shouldnt [04:05] i've never convinced java-package to recognize a recent jdk, so i always install java stuff manually [04:05] my printer just spits out a blank page when i try to print a test page with it [04:05] !tell commrules about rootsudo [04:05] tritium: and they did something to it === acil_p_lazim is now known as devrim^^ === devrim^^ [n=myworld@58.69.55.135] has left #ubuntu [] [04:05] Hello I need help installing gtk+2.7.5 in ubuntu 5.10 can someone help? [04:05] tritium: so when i rebooted it did somehing to xserver [04:06] cute_bettong, are you running breezy? [04:06] tritium: and it screwd it up so i have text only and that is it [04:06] tritium: yes [04:06] sorry for such a bad question but does anyone know of a repo for w32codecs? [04:06] memin: why do you think you need that specific version? [04:06] cute_bettong, udev was broken, but is now fixed. === karen_ [n=karen@adsl-68-72-115-194.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:06] i want to configure a command to be executed when i type key? (i want to configure it in X, dont in wm) [04:06] Did you update to the latest packages, cute_bettong ? [04:06] That they will share? [04:06] tritium: ok how do i get that so every thing works again === DJW|Home [n=djwillis@82-32-72-107.cable.ubr02.bath.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [04:07] Turicas: X doesn't do that sort of thing, sorry [04:07] cute_bettong, just upgrade [04:07] If anybody can help me: I upgraded to breezy but now at the time to login the keyboard doesn't write nothing, like not working but it is working, you know what could be? [04:07] tritium: how [04:07] cute_bettong, perhaps you should not be running breezy if you don't know how. [04:07] tritium: i'm tryin to learn so this is good for me === pitux [i=pitux@81-200-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:08] tritium: i am running it becuase a freind said it was ok to go from horey === sinned [n=sinned@68-186-54-49.dhcp.mghl.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:08] cute_bettong, okay, sudo aptitude update, followed by sudo aptitude upgrade [04:08] that's hoary ;) === Chambers_ [n=Thom@pcp02906040pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:08] Omg this is so fucking fusterating [04:08] lui, is that an english keyboard? [04:08] dist-upgrade? [04:08] bob2, uhm..and do you know how i can configure it in xfce? [04:08] I've tried every guide I could find [04:08] bob2 I am trying to install clearlooks-cairo theme it says that i need gtk+2.7.or => [04:08] Nothing [04:08] tritium: ok sorry just trying here === sinned is now known as dennis__ [04:09] Grrr [04:09] cute_bettong, lui: please make sure you have the latest udev package installed [04:09] tritium: at least i'll have this knowledge in the future [04:09] Fuck ati and its shitty drivers [04:09] hey in gaim msn, can i use the voice talk feature? [04:09] amen === pitux [i=pitux@81-200-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [04:09] dennis__: language, but amen! [04:09] or is that not available under gaim? [04:09] goose_boy: nope [04:09] tritium: and thank you for your help i really apriciate it [04:09] I got this to work about 3 weeks ago === tritium washes out dennis__'s mouth with soap [04:09] But I formatted [04:09] kairu0, nope, latin america [04:09] memin: so, install libgtk2.0-dev [04:09] and can't get it to work again [04:09] Turicas: no, sorry [04:10] sure, cute_bettong. The version for udev should be 0.060-1ubuntu14 [04:10] damn [04:10] lui, did you set that keyboard during the install? [04:10] I've tried everything [04:10] The binarydriverhowto...the guides in the forum [04:10] And nothing works :/ [04:10] ignore the forums [04:10] sinned@spartan:~$ fglrxinfo [04:10] display: :0.0 screen: 0 [04:10] OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org === mode/#ubuntu [-o bob2] by bob2 [04:10] GRRR [04:10] er [04:10] that's pretty trivial [04:10] ? [04:10] you didn't load the right driver in your xorg.conf [04:11] yes I did [04:11] fglrx? [04:11] kairu0, it is set, I checked the xorg. conf [04:11] Yup [04:11] then show us your entire config file [04:11] k [04:11] dennis__: use the pastebin [04:11] I know === dort [n=d4rt@69.37.227.200] has joined #ubuntu [04:11] lui, is it a usb keyboard? [04:11] dennis__: :) [04:12] anyone know how to set the gtk engine th kde? [04:12] kairu0, nope, ps/2 [04:12] http://pastebin.com/370578 [04:12] lui, was it working before an upgrade yesterday? [04:12] lui, does your mouse work? [04:13] so i can upgrade hoary to breezy by following these instructions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes ? [04:13] anyone know when w32codecs were removed from the repos and is there another place to get em? [04:13] yes, newbling [04:13] dennis__: and your X log [04:13] no that is for building a nuclear bomb.. [04:13] thewayofzen: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/ torrents [04:13] kairu0, yes it works. tritium, it was, and it's working now [04:13] thewayofzen: a few days ago [04:13] wheres the xlog located? [04:13] !tell thewayofzen about w32codecs [04:13] thewayofzen: you really can't find the .deb using google? [04:13] !tell me about w32codecs [04:14] !tell jack- about w32codecs [04:14] bob2 it wont workcbob2 it worked but now I am getting a new error--->config.status: error: cannot find input file: Makefile.in [04:14] bob2, where is the xlog file located? [04:14] memin: then the source tree is broken [04:14] okee.. ill do that then. [04:14] dennis__: /var/log [04:14] memin: or you forgot to run autogen.sh [04:14] and its called xorg.log? [04:14] how do i mount a usb flash drive? [04:14] bob2 no I didn't know I hat to run it [04:14] Xorg.0.log === melfyk [n=matt@204-117-69-126-dsl.etv.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:14] k thanks [04:15] mindframe: just plug it in, and it should mount to /media/