[12:00] <Seveas> well, just installed means still a buggy version ;)
[12:00] <Linner> that's not going to work
[12:00] <shinu> when is firefox 1.0.7 is gonna be out in repos?
[12:00] <Linner> permission denied
[12:00] <shinu> (random question)
[12:00] <Seveas> Linner, sudo apt-get update
[12:00] <Linner> unable to lock the administration directory
[12:00] <Seveas> shinu, asap
[12:00] <Linner> are you root?
[12:00] <h08817> priscilla: well it should work
[12:00] <shinu> Seveas: right :)
[12:00] <gt500k> What's the command to look in a file, using the terminal?
[12:00] <Linner> i need sudo first huh?
[12:00] <Seveas> copland, ?
[12:00] <boxerboy29> i get that when i have another apt session running
[12:01] <Linner> i figured it out
[12:01] <Linner> at least the apt get part
[12:01] <shawarma> Linner: Do you have aptitude or something like that open in another term=
[12:01] <boxerboy29> linner: try sudo -s
[12:01] <boxerboy29> that will keep u as root
[12:01] <funkyHat> ubotu, opera8.5 is broken in breezy, if you want to install it, there is a patched .deb available at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/breezy-extras/opera_8.50-20050916.5-shared-qt_en_breezy_patch_i386.deb
[12:01] <ubotu> okay, funkyHat
[12:01] <h08817> gt500k: a txt file or what? gedit then the filename
[12:01] <Seveas> boxerboy29, that's bad
[12:01] <Seveas> sudo -i is better :)
[12:01] <Linner> boxerboy29: it's all upgrading and installing now
[12:01] <boxerboy29> i heard other way around about a weeek ago
[12:01] <Linner> Seveas: it's going to take some time there are 302 updates
[12:01] <ThePyromaniac> Seveas i installed the package you mentions, it instaleld a few with it. it still says that iostream: No such file or directory
[12:02] <gt500k> h08817 no just like a folder to see the contnts
[12:02] <boxerboy29> <<will start using -i
[12:02] <Linner> where do i go from here?
[12:02] <Seveas> ThePyromaniac, then either your code is bad or you're compiling it the wrong way :)
[12:02] <h08817> cd folder then ls
[12:02] <kandinski> again: is 192 MB good for running ubuntu on a celeron 550 mhz laptop? is there any compromise that needs to be reached?
[12:02] <gt500k> wow i'm stupid
[12:02] <boxerboy29> seveas: that site you gave me the realplayer part was for ppc
[12:02] <Seveas> Linner, once the updates are installed, run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade && apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:03] <Seveas> Linner, that's just to be sure you missed nothing
[12:03] <h08817> gt500k: its ok
[12:03] <Seveas> and after that: reboot
[12:03] <ThePyromaniac> well the code and the compilation were both taken from an example site seveas
[12:03] <Seveas> ThePyromaniac, url?
[12:03] <Air2k> Hi again. what is the best way to install the package w32codecs? the repository ubuntu-backports doesn't contain that package anymore.
[12:03] <Linner> Seveas: ok... i can do that
[12:03] <boxerboy29> seveas: is ther ea program in synaptic for music in websites?
[12:03] <ThePyromaniac> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31821.html
[12:03] <Seveas> boxerboy29, mozilla-mplayer
[12:04] <Linner> boxerboy29: were you in here earlier this morning (I'm in California)
[12:04] <boxerboy29> seveas thank you
[12:04] <boxerboy29> linner yes
[12:04] <Linner> boxerboy29: i thought you "looked" familiar
[12:04] <boxerboy29> ive been here all day :(
[12:04] <Linner> sounds painfully familiar
[12:04] <Seveas> ThePyromaniac, I see no code there and several bad compilation instructions....
[12:04] <stormie> hi everyone
[12:05] <ThePyromaniac> seveas i got the code from another page, oop. i just changed my extention to cpp from c. can you tell im a n00b?
[12:05] <Seveas> ThePyromaniac, kinda
[12:05] <Linner> wow with 429 people just in this room, you'd think that Linux would be considered a serious competitor and manus would make the right drivers for it
[12:05] <ThePyromaniac> seveas can you show me a link to a GOOD example and a GOOD command and i can take it from there
[12:05] <h08817> well everyone standby I am going to try to install ubuntu again even though i think it will die
[12:05] <Seveas> read a c++ primer :)
[12:06] <ThePyromaniac> a what?
[12:06] <boxerboy29> seveas mplayer does both music and video?
[12:06] <h08817> i am putting it on my xp hd and i have 98 on my other and hopefully linux can bring them all together
[12:06] <Linner> boxerboy29: yes, it does :)
[12:06] <Linner> boxerboy29: I use it on my desktop
[12:06] <boxerboy29> hot damn
[12:06] <boxerboy29> brb
[12:06] <Linner> boxerboy29: it works extremely well
[12:06] <ThePyromaniac> seveas ohh, a book right. well i know HOW to in .NET. im not a spaz, i just cant do the command line ^^
[12:06] <Carlk> shawarma, thanks
[12:07] <boxerboy29> linner and seveas thank you its installing
[12:07] <Linner> boxerboy29: hey, I have a lot to pay back with all the help I've gotten in here. :)
[12:07] <NetGeek> is there anyway to update extension in Firefox?
[12:07] <Milk_> Anyone have any idea why my 2nd monitor has a yellow tinge when using twinview
[12:08] <boxerboy29> linner you still working on the x windows?
[12:08] <Linner> yeah
[12:08] <Linner> it's still installing and downloading
[12:08] <Linner> i had 304 updates
[12:08] <boxerboy29> i was :) when i got it done a few hours ago
[12:08] <NetGeek> auto-update still does not worK?
[12:08] <Linner> boxerboy29: yeah I hear ya'... I'm on my fifth install
[12:08] <Linner> :(
[12:09] <Linner> i've been working on this for a solid 24 hours
[12:09] <Seveas> Well time to ^Z here, 'night folks
[12:09] <Cesarin> btw, when a compiler says "cannot find X11 development files", what are these?
[12:09] <Linner> Seveas: thank you so much have a great evening
[12:09] <Cesarin> and what is the name to download them?
[12:09] <boxerboy29> linner: i installed breezy like 4 or 5 times till i got it fixed
[12:09] <Milk_> could sync or refresh cause color problems?
[12:09] <Linner> boxerboy29: sounds like you and i are in the same boat
[12:10] <boxerboy29> i kept getting font errors and it wouldnt load X
[12:10] <deevo> hi everybody ..what's this chat room about ?
[12:10] <Linner> boxerboy29: ok... i was getting those too
[12:10] <Seveas> deevo, ubuntu support
[12:10] <Cesarin> boxer: they helped me about that earlier
[12:10] <Milk_> Anyone have any idea why my 2nd monitor has a yellow tinge when using twinview
[12:10] <boxerboy29> me too
[12:10] <Linner> deevo: only ubuntu help
[12:10] <Linner> there is an offtopic forum too #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:10] <Seveas> Linner, all these errors should be fixed as of 15:00 this afternoon :)
[12:10] <Cesarin> linner: whats the synaptic 's name for X11 develment files?
[12:10] <Linner> 3:00 my time?
[12:11] <Seveas> Cesarin, xorg-dev
[12:11] <Cesarin> thanks
[12:11] <Seveas> 15:00 UTC
[12:11] <Linner> Seveas: phew.. thank you!
[12:11] <Linner> Seveas: go to bed now... :)
[12:11] <Seveas> :)
[12:11] <Linner> we need you with a fresh head tomorrow
[12:11] <Linner> :)
[12:11] <boxerboy29> :0 its not working on my site
[12:11] <Seveas> boxerboy29, you might need an additional dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:12] <Linner> Seveas: what are all these errors coming from?
[12:12] <Cesarin> weird, I cant find those
[12:12] <Linner> just from the nightly builds?
[12:12] <Cesarin> brb
[12:12] <Seveas> udev mess
[12:12] <Linner> oh yuck
[12:12] <Seveas> and ficing it made things worse
[12:12] <Linner> oh okay
[12:12] <Seveas> but today the correct fix was found :)
[12:12] <paul124897> hey guys
[12:12] <Linner> fantasticv
[12:12] <Linner> paul124897: hello
[12:12] <boxerboy29> seveas this is gonna sound stupid but after the bs this mornong is there an easy way to do that?
[12:12] <paul124897> know of a good alarm clock system for linux to help wake me up on a morning?
[12:12] <shawarma> Linner: Don't worry. It's not normal for Breezy. You just tried on a REALLY bad day. :-D
[12:13] <stormie> im having problems mounting my ntfs partition on Ubuntu, can anyone help me out? (ive tried using the shell ubotu suggests, same problem)
[12:13] <Seveas> boxerboy29, in a console you can update/upgrade/reconfigure too :)
[12:13] <rob^> !ntfs
[12:13] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[12:13] <Linner> shawarma: well the thing was i wasn't installing with an internet connection this morning
[12:13] <boxerboy29> seveas i did that thats all fixed
[12:13] <Linner> shawarma: so I don't know of the problems people were having this morning
[12:13] <Zaacc> mmm sorry if this has been asked plenty times but what's the backup url for the ubuntu forums ?
[12:13] <Seveas> stormie, before running that script first unmount the drive and remove it from fstab
[12:13] <boxerboy29> its the mplayer thats not working
[12:13] <nekko> ayuda
[12:13] <nekko> estan alli
[12:13] <paul124897> know of a good alarm clock system for linux to help wake me up on a morning?
[12:13] <Linner> i didn't realize it was required until about 10a this morning
[12:13] <rob^> dodgy script..
[12:13] <Seveas> boxerboy29, ah :)
[12:14] <nekko> tengo problemas para instalar firefox
[12:14] <nekko> para actualizarlo
[12:14] <Seveas> ao=esd (in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf)
[12:14] <shawarma> nekko: Este canal no es espanol.
[12:14] <Seveas> nekko, please stick to english in here
[12:14] <Linner> boxerboy29: it's not working????
[12:14] <[LethAL] > !es
[12:14] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:14] <boxerboy29> nope not on one of my sites its not
[12:14] <Linner> oh gosh
[12:14] <Linner> i'm confused... you say one of your sites?
[12:15] <shawarma> nekko: Si quieres ayuda tienes que hablar ingles.
[12:15] <Stonie> can anyone tell me how to get an ATI X800 XL to work?
[12:15] <DaaJeH> Hello
[12:15] <shawarma> paul124897: cron and mplayer?
[12:15] <Seveas> shawarma, didn't know you speak spanish :)
[12:15] <Linner> Stonie: I might be wrong... but we were trying to help me install an ATI 200M this morning using another driver called vesa
[12:15] <boxerboy29> yes i have a few websites im working on one now and i have sound on the site but i cant hear it it tells me to get plug ins
[12:15] <Seveas> shawarma, btw, did you get my mail?
[12:15] <shawarma> Seveas: You'd be surprised. :-D
[12:15] <DaaJeH> How do I install a realplayer?
[12:16] <Seveas> boxerboy29, ah you need w32codecs
[12:16] <shawarma> Seveas: Your mail? Hmm.. When was this?
[12:16] <Seveas> shawarma, few days ago about membership
[12:16] <Linner> Seveas: was I right for stonie's question?
[12:16] <ShadeZeRO> hi.
[12:16] <Seveas> are you an Ubuntu member?
[12:16] <ShadeZeRO> No...
[12:16] <paul124897> i need the jre but cant get it :(
[12:16] <Seveas> !tell Stonie about ati
[12:16] <ShadeZeRO> I was wondering if i could get some help...
[12:16] <shawarma> Seveas: Er... I remember getting a mail I figured was kind of automated... No, I'm not a member. Yet, anyway.
[12:16] <Seveas> shawarma, k :)
[12:16] <shawarma> ShadeZeRO: Just ask.
[12:16] <Linner> bummer
[12:16] <Seveas> you should become one :)
[12:17] <Linner> I was trying :)
[12:17] <boxerboy29> seveas why is it i have this feeling thats not gonna be easy?
[12:17] <boxerboy29> lol
[12:17] <Seveas> boxerboy29, it is gonna be easy
[12:17] <Seveas> you can download it from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:17] <Milk_> Anyone have any idea why my 2nd monitor has a yellow tinge when using twinview
[12:17] <shawarma> Seveas: I know. I just think I need to do more work before "they" will let me. :-D
[12:17] <stormie> i require assistance :( severe problems here lol
[12:17] <Seveas> shawarma, I don't think you'll have a problem ;)
[12:17] <ShadeZeRO> Well basically...my HD's are screwed, i got some wicked bad virus, now i BSOD on anything, and Safemode doesn't work either anymore (win XP)...I have ubuntu Live here...and I load it up in failsafe (messed up in regular)..and I want to backup some files to a 2nd hd I have in there...
[12:18] <shawarma> Seveas: Really?
[12:18] <ShadeZeRO> but it says the 2nd HD is a 'read only' drive...how would I undo that...OR How could I burn a DVD with Ubuntu?
[12:18] <shawarma> Seveas: What the hey... I'll show up a the next CC meeting then.
[12:18] <Seveas> shawarma, unless i'm mistaking you for someone else you've been active for quite some time already :)
[12:18] <lui> hello
[12:19] <shawarma> Seveas: No, that sounds just about right.
[12:19] <pauldaoust> hey folks... quick question about sudo, that I can't find info on in its man page: does anyone know why, when I issue a command in sudo, it pretends the current working directory is "/"?
[12:19] <Seveas> anyway, I really gotta ^Z now
[12:19] <shawarma> Seveas :-)
[12:19] <Seveas> bye
[12:19] <shawarma> Seveas Sleep tight.
[12:19] <lui> Seveas, is there a way to see my linux partition from win XP?
[12:19] <shawarma> pauldaoust: What makes you think it does that?
[12:19] <funkyHat> lui, yes
[12:20] <shawarma> pauldaoust: What does "sudo pwd" say?
[12:20] <funkyHat> lui google for ext2ifs
[12:20] <Carlk> lui - it did't see it?  (it should)
[12:20] <pauldaoust> shawarma: at present, /home/administrator
[12:20] <lui> funkyHat, ok
[12:20] <Carlk> oh wait.. i r dumb
[12:20] <uzman_kurt> ne oli la
[12:20] <pauldaoust> shawarma: so it seems to resolve the whole pathname
[12:20] <uzman_kurt> trk yokmu burda
[12:20] <ShadeZeRO> ...
[12:20] <ShadeZeRO> nobody knows?
[12:20] <Carlk> lui - I was thinking XP from linux
[12:20] <lui> great, but then I can see all my files?
[12:21] <shawarma> pauldaoust: Yes...
[12:21] <pauldaoust> shawarma: well, here's what happens. if I go 'Run command...' and then type in 'gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' it'll create a new file called 'xorg.conf' in my home directory
[12:21] <lui> Carlk, ok :P
[12:21] <Carlk> lui - yes, if you install the ext driver for windows, which is really new
[12:21] <funkyHat> Carlk, see ubotu's message:
[12:21] <funkyHat> !ntfs
[12:21] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP.  To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s, you can use this utility: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab . It handles HFS+, NTFS and FAT32 partitions.
[12:21] <Juul> where is /etc/ld.so.conf in ubuntu (breezy) ?
[12:21] <lui> excellent! thanks guys
[12:21] <shawarma> ShadeZeRO: I'm not sure I caught your question?
[12:21] <Carlk> lui - don't go.. let me find a URL
[12:21] <ShadeZeRO> Oh
[12:21] <ShadeZeRO> it was long
[12:21] <ShadeZeRO> Should I copy paste it
[12:22] <lui> Carlk, oh, ok thank you
[12:22] <ThePyromaniac> you can do C++ in mono right? it mentions C# but...? ^^
[12:22] <shawarma> ShadeZeRO: I got the description of the broken disks and the live CD... I just missed the last bit, I think.
[12:22] <ShadeZeRO> Well, i Loaded up THe live Disk ...
[12:22] <funkyHat> sorry Carlk, i don't really know who's asking who what, so if you didn't need to know that... yeah :P
[12:22] <cas_> How can I startup programs by userlogin, e.g. beagled?
[12:23] <ShadeZeRO> and I want to copy files from one HD to another
[12:23] <JosephB> hey ppl. anyone else having trouble with Xorg2? I can't get it to start up since the last dist-upgrade
[12:23] <pauldaoust> shawarma: additionally, I've written an update script for a bunch of computers in the network I administer, that does various things each day (e.g., install a new package or lock down the panel for basic users). I basically have a symlink /etc/cron.daily/update-common --> /scripts/update-common (which is the updater script)
[12:23] <ShadeZeRO> but, it says one HD is a 'read only' drive
[12:23] <shawarma> ShadeZeRO: Ubuntu says that?
[12:23] <ShadeZeRO> Which is the drive  I want to copy stuff too...
[12:23] <ShadeZeRO> Yes...
[12:23] <ShadeZeRO> I run failsafe mode
[12:23] <shawarma> ShadeZeRO: And you absolutely sure it's not CD-rom or something like that?
[12:23] <ShadeZeRO> hdg1
[12:23] <ShadeZeRO> I can see the files on the 2nd drive
[12:23] <h08817> i have a grub error
[12:24] <meuserj|work> ShadeZeRO, is it NTFS?
[12:24] <ShadeZeRO> Yes
[12:24] <h08817> it says error 18
[12:24] <ShadeZeRO> With alot of backups
[12:24] <h08817> !grub
[12:24] <ubotu> grub is, like, totally, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[12:24] <meuserj|work> ShadeZeRO, you can't write to an NTFS partition in Linux
[12:24] <Carlk> is this chat logged?
[12:24] <ShadeZeRO> Aww...
[12:24] <Linner> do you guys recommend installing windows AFTER breezy is up and running?
[12:24] <ShadeZeRO> How about burning a DVD?
[12:24] <boxerboy29> before
[12:24] <meuserj|work> ShadeZeRO, should be able to do that fine
[12:24] <ShadeZeRO> How would I do that
[12:24] <Linner> before????
[12:24] <shawarma> ShadeZeRO: Put a blank one in, and watch.
[12:24] <Linner> really........
[12:25] <Linner> shoot
[12:25] <pauldaoust> shawarma: today, my update-common script is supposed to untar a file into /home/student (basic uprivileged user), but when I test it out by going sudo /scripts/update-common, it always untars the file into the current working directory
[12:25] <Carlk> I have posted the URL to the site that has "ext2 fs drivers for windows" (maybe I should google that
[12:25] <Seveas> ubotu, grub is also troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[12:25] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[12:25] <boxerboy29> linner: thats what i was always told
[12:25] <meuserj|work> ShadeZeRO, yeah.. what shawarma said
[12:25] <pauldaoust> shawarma: and that's why I think sudo has problems :)
[12:25] <Linner> boxerboy29: what's the reasoning do you remember?
[12:25] <Seveas> if you install it afterwards you need to restore grub with a livecd
[12:25] <shawarma> pauldaoust: I would need to see the script to say anything clever about it.
[12:25] <boxerboy29> linner: boot loader
[12:25] <shawarma> But I seriously have to catch some sleep too.
[12:25] <ShadeZeRO> Ok, i put one in
[12:25] <Carlk> how can i set a DNS IP so that dhcp won't overwrite it?
[12:25] <Linner> Seveas: I thought you were going to bed!!!
[12:26] <ShadeZeRO> I have 3 drives mind you (1 dvd rom, 1 cdrw, 1 dvdrw
[12:26] <Seveas> Linner, so did I
[12:26] <boxerboy29> linner: winblows boot loader isnt worth a damn
[12:26] <lui> Carlk, need to go , thanks for the help
[12:26] <boxerboy29> ok damnit apt-get hates my guts today
[12:26] <shawarma> ShadeZeRO: Shouldn't be a problem.
[12:26] <Carlk> lui - loook around for "ext2 fs drivers for windows"
[12:26] <Seveas> Carlk, http://pastebin.com/370390
[12:26] <Carlk> when you have time ;l
[12:26] <Linner> Seveas: ok.. so what are the reprocussions if I install it afterwards?
[12:26] <thinman> after recompiling kernel i have an error while boot up "device-mapper: error adding target to table...
[12:27] <meuserj|work> ShadeZeRO, assuming you are in Gnome.. it should open up a window that you can drag your files to and then burn
[12:27] <Seveas> ubotu, dns-dhcp is <reply> Using static DNS with DHCP: http://pastebin.com/370390
[12:27] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[12:27] <boxerboy29> linner: trying to get to boot from one or the other
[12:27] <Seveas> if you install it afterwards you need to restore grub with a livecd <-- Linner
[12:27] <Linner> Seveas: ok so all my updates are finished and I'm STILL getting the failed to start the X server
[12:27] <Fearan> anybody have any idea why i DIDN'T have any problems upgrading to breezy?
[12:27] <Linner> Seveas: is it difficult?
[12:27] <ShadeZeRO> hmm
[12:27] <Seveas>  Linner did you reboot?
[12:27] <ShadeZeRO> nope?
[12:27] <ThePyromaniac> great, i cant get mono working because it constantly harps for packages synaptic doesnt have, so i install manually and it still doesnt see it... and i can get command line compilation to work. i have a whole book-worth of useless examples with no mention of how to compile code.... anyone here a C++ programmer?
[12:27] <Linner> Seveas: no...
[12:27] <Carlk> Seveas, that wuold be great but my $15 internet box apparently won't resove that ;)
[12:27] <Seveas> Linner, no, the wiki has clear instructions
[12:27] <Linner> Seveas: i thought that was a windows thing
[12:27] <Seveas> Linner, then reboot :)
[12:27] <Linner> Seveas: got it... will remember it
[12:27] <Carlk> Seveas, but I can make it work one more time...
[12:27] <Linner> Seveas: okey dokey
[12:27] <Fearan> anybody have any idea why i DIDN'T have any problems upgrading to breezy?
[12:27] <meuserj|work> ShadeZeRO, are you sure it's blank, and that you put it in the correct drive?
[12:28] <Seveas> Linner, in case of errors rebooting still is useful sometimes :)
[12:28] <Linner> Seveas: great
[12:28] <shawarma> Fearan: When did you do it?
[12:28] <Linner> hope it works
[12:28] <ShadeZeRO> yes
[12:28] <Seveas> Fearan, you upgraded on an error-free time
[12:28] <Fearan> shawarma: saturday
[12:28] <Linner> i like the new ubuntu graphic ... really nice
[12:28] <pauldaoust> shawarma: http://pastebin.com/370439
[12:28] <Seveas> today has been a bad day for upgrading :)
[12:28] <boxerboy29> ok seveas apt get doesnt work anymore ive tried apt-get install everything
[12:28] <Linner> Seveas: and for new installs!
[12:28] <Linner> ;)
[12:28] <shawarma> Fearan: That's why, then. The breakage (the majer udev one) was only for a few hours today.
[12:29] <Seveas> shawarma, the udev/X was a lingering thing
[12:29] <Linner> Seveas: ok.. nope.. that did do ti.. same problem
[12:29] <h08817> does anyone have any ideas how to fix the grub error 18 or know what it means?
[12:29] <ShadeZeRO> I put another blank in, nothing...
[12:29] <Linner> can't start the x server
[12:29] <shawarma> Seveas: meaning?
[12:29] <Fearan> shawarma: ok, but i also got some updates from the breezy server
[12:29] <boxerboy29> ho8817: reinstall it
[12:29] <Fearan> shawarma: today
[12:29] <Seveas> in that case I give up for now and REALLY go to sleep
[12:29] <meuserj|work> ShadeZeRO, well... open up a nautilus window and go to Go->CD/DVD Creator
[12:29] <boxerboy29> or use conlony 3
[12:29] <h08817> boxerboy29: wish it was that easy
[12:29] <Linner> Seveas: thanks!
[12:29] <Linner> :(
[12:29] <shawarma> Seveas: You do that. Catch you later.
[12:29] <boxerboy29> lol
[12:30] <Fearan> gtg
[12:30] <Linner> night Seveas
[12:30] <Linner> ;)
[12:30] <boxerboy29> i get grub 18 on my colony 4 cd
[12:30] <Fearan> c ya every1
[12:30] <h08817> boxerboy29: so how can i fix it
[12:30] <meuserj|work> ShadeZeRO, drag your files there and then click "write to disc" when you are done.. and choose your DVDRW drive on the next dialog
[12:30] <boxerboy29> so i use my colony 3 cd
[12:30] <Linner> boxerboy29: shawarma so I did the updates that Seveas recommended ... rebooted... same error... failed to start the X Server
[12:30] <pauldaoust> hey, has anyone ever had a new 'Debian' menu appear in the 'Applications' menu? it's very weird and annoying, and it appeared I believe after I installed tuxpaint. strange thing is that it duplicates a lot of the menu entries that already appear in other folders, and also lists a lot of entries for programs that aren't even installed.
[12:30] <h08817> well i don't have the official cd
[12:30] <h08817> i downloaded the install image and burned it to cd
[12:30] <boxerboy29> download it and burn it
[12:31] <crimsun> pauldaoust: yes, that's the menu package.
[12:31] <meuserj|work> pauldaoust, you should be able to get rid of that with smeg
[12:31] <h08817> so i don't think the cd i have will boot to linux it will just boot ot hte installer
[12:31] <crimsun> pauldaoust: err, menu-xdg
[12:31] <pauldaoust> crimsun, meuserj|work: thanky :)
[12:31] <Linner> boxerboy29: did you see my question?
[12:31] <meuserj|work> pauldaoust, np
[12:32] <boxerboy29> linner: did it ask you if you wanted to keep the old "package" cant remember what it was
[12:32] <Linner> no
[12:32] <alex_> Hey all.
[12:32] <Linner> it didn't at all
[12:32] <Linner> just installed a bunch of junk
[12:32] <alex_> I am having serious issues with Breezy.
[12:32] <Linner> and then took me to the root login
[12:32] <alex_> I _JUST_ upgraded 500 packages.
[12:32] <Linner> alex_: we all are
[12:32] <boxerboy29> lol @ junk
[12:32] <alex_> Now when I do apt-get upgrade, it wants me to redo them all over again.
[12:32] <Carlk> Seveas, how did you make it hightlight?  it=http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?show=370390
[12:32] <alex_> All my shit is missing.
[12:32] <pauldaoust> I see smeg isn't in the hoary repository yet :'-(
[12:32] <Linner> Carlk: I think he went to bed.
[12:33] <crimsun> pauldaoust: it won't ever be in Hoary.
[12:33] <alex_> How do I go about switching back to Horay?
[12:33] <funkyHat> pauldaoust, just install the deb :P
[12:33] <pauldaoust> crimsun: ah :)
[12:33] <Carlk> Linner, rats.
[12:33] <alex_> Breezy just sucks too badly :/
[12:33] <spiral> 'bye
[12:33] <crimsun> pauldaoust: Hoary was released in April. No new software goes into a released version. Period.
[12:33] <yereth> hi al
[12:33] <yereth> l
[12:33] <pauldaoust> crimsun: duh, sorry :) I knew that too
[12:33] <boxerboy29> linner: after you rebooted did it give you a diagnostic window?
[12:33] <funkyHat> Carlk, what did he highlight?
[12:33] <Linner> boxerboy29: yes
[12:33] <pauldaoust> crimsun: bad habits left over from Gentoo ;)
[12:33] <h08817> boxerboy29: i even tried installing lilo but lilo locks up on the first boot too
[12:34] <yereth> can anyone give me a hint how I can make apt downgrade from breezy to hoary?
[12:34] <Linner> same $hit, different process :)
[12:34] <crimsun> yereth: man apt_preferences
[12:34] <boxerboy29> h08817: if you google for grub error 18 it will show you i cant rtemember what it said off top of head
[12:34] <charles> so my gnome-print-manager won't display any drivers anymore (while I am trying to setup network printing)
[12:34] <ShadeZeRO> umm
[12:34] <yereth> crimsun: can I use this pin-priority?
[12:34] <crimsun> yereth: certainly
[12:34] <ShadeZeRO> how do u open up a nautalist window -_-''
[12:34] <h08817> boxerboy29: i already tried that
[12:34] <pauldaoust> shawarma: incidentally, disregard line 5 of the pastebin thingy I sent you; it's just a first-time thingy to actually install itself in /etc/cron.daily
[12:34] <yereth> crimsun: I assume I have to create this preferences file myself
[12:35] <boxerboy29> linner: the [WW]  were they font or moniter or card?
[12:35] <alex323> Anybody? I need to downgrade to Horay before I fucking kill Breezy.
[12:35] <crimsun> yereth: yes
[12:35] <yereth> heh
[12:35] <yereth> crimsun: cheers :)
[12:35] <crimsun> alex323: see what yereth's asking.
[12:35] <yereth> :)
[12:35] <alex323> What was his question?
[12:36] <boxerboy29> h08814: 18 : "Invalid or unsupported executable format"
[12:36] <h08817> boxerboy29: well i found something
[12:36] <ShadeZeRO> Meuser
[12:36] <h08817> boxerboy29: it said that my hd is too big for my bios
[12:36] <yereth> alex323: 00:31 < yereth> can anyone give me a hint how I can make apt downgrade from breezy to hoary?
[12:36] <ShadeZeRO> Are you still there??
[12:36] <ShadeZeRO> I dont knwo howto open up nautalisk'
[12:36] <h08817> boxerboy29: it says i have to install linux to the beginning of the hd well how the heck do i do that?
[12:36] <boxerboy29> whats on that harddrive?
[12:37] <pauldaoust> hey, am I missing something with sudo? whenever I try to run certain scripts, sudo always does its work in the current working directory instead of the directory it's supposed to.
[12:37] <boxerboy29> most likey u will want to read up on the 1024 problem
[12:37] <boxerboy29> i cant think of what its called
[12:37] <boxerboy29> cylinder 1024
[12:38] <h08817> boxerboy29: well already on hte hd is windows xp
[12:38] <thehil>  How can I use windows.h in WINE?
[12:38] <pauldaoust> ex: http://pastebin.com/370439 ... at one point, this script is supposed to untar a file into someone's home directory. when I go 'sudo /scripts/update-common.sh' (which is where the above file is located) it untars the file into .
[12:38] <boxerboy29> its something about linux has to be installed on first 1024 cylinders
[12:39] <boxerboy29> i hate to say this but i dont remeber how to do that
[12:39] <boxerboy29> linner: do u have an ati video card?
[12:39] <zyph> oh thank god i'm finally on
[12:39] <zyph> oh i'm having so many problems
[12:40] <charles> so my gnome-print-manager won't display any drivers anymore (while I am trying to setup network printing)
[12:40] <boxerboy29> arnt we all
[12:40] <zyph> i'm in terminal
[12:40] <funkyHat> i'm not :)
[12:40] <zyph> i have no x
[12:40] <delire> nor me!
[12:40] <Cesarin> ok guys, anyone knows how to modify the conf file? the file seems LOCKED ( the xorg.conf )
[12:40] <funkyHat> delire, zyph, you both on breezy?
[12:40] <zyph> i did apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:40] <zyph> i'm on breezy
[12:40] <boxerboy29> :( i can remember the grub 18 error but i cant install codecs
[12:40] <zyph> yeah x is totally fsked up now
[12:40] <delire> Cesarin: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:40] <h08817> well i found info on the error
[12:40] <Cesarin> thank you delire
[12:41] <zyph> well it's the mouse
[12:41] <h08817> boxerboy29: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/GRUB
[12:41] <funkyHat> zyph, try upgrading again, there is a very recent new release of udev or something which might fix it
[12:41] <zyph> there is no mouse, there's no device
[12:41] <delire> Cesarin: as it's a system file, you need to have permissions (a linux system can have many users you know) ..
[12:41] <boxerboy29> im a member there
[12:41] <funkyHat> zyph, if not, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:41] <zyph> i tried like 3 times funkyHat
[12:41] <zyph> funkyHat, did that
[12:41] <funkyHat> :(
[12:41] <h08817> so does anyone in here know how to install linux to the first 1024 cylinders of a hardrive?
[12:41] <boxerboy29> ill bbl
[12:41] <zyph> funkyHat, i have no mouse device
[12:41] <delire> funkyHat: <-- debian here, hoary at work.
[12:42] <Cesarin> delire: im the only one using this machine :P
[12:42] <funkyHat> oh, delire, were you saying 'nor me!' in reply to my statement, or zyph's?
[12:42] <Cesarin> ok thanks delire, now I have to wonder how to enable my mousewell and the extra buttons it does have
[12:42] <zyph> i'm just glad i got irc figured out
[12:42] <h08817> !1024
[12:42] <ubotu> h08817: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:42] <h08817> ubotu, yes
[12:42] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, h08817?
[12:42] <Cesarin> its a Optical intellimouse explorer v.3
[12:43] <delire> Cesarin: not from a hackers perspective you're not ;) a unix system has a 'god' (root) account and user accounts.
[12:43] <h08817> 1024 cylinders
[12:43] <Cesarin> well then I AM GOD!!! :O
[12:43] <delire> funkyHat: nor me to yours ;)
[12:43] <delire> Cesarin: muarharhar.
[12:43] <zeke1> how do you setup the network in ubuntu cause mine cant even find an eth device
[12:43] <ThePyromaniac> Anyone here code C++?
[12:43] <Cesarin> delire, : well any idea how to change the options of the mouse? :o
[12:44] <thehil>  where can I download winelib, not wine?
[12:44] <delire> Cesarin: what is wrong with your mouse?
[12:44] <zyph> funkyHat, how do i creat a mouse device?
[12:44] <funkyHat> delire, ah :)
[12:44] <Cesarin> actual options are "configured mouse"
[12:44] <Cesarin> delire: 5 button+mousewhell
[12:44] <Cesarin> the whell doesnt work
[12:44] <delire> ThePyromaniac: yes, but perhaps #c++ is the best place to ask C++ questions?
[12:44] <Cesarin> nor does the "back, and forward" buttons
[12:44] <zeke1> how do you setup the network in ubuntu cause mine cant even find an eth device
[12:44] <zeke1> anybody know
[12:44] <Cesarin> zekel: using breezy on X?
[12:45] <delire> Cesarin: ahah.. do you have the option Enable 3 Buttons set in your config?
[12:45] <ThePyromaniac> delire I am not asking C++ questions, im asking if anyone can help me to compile in ubuntu here ^^
[12:45] <ThePyromaniac> but thanks
[12:45] <Cesarin> nope
[12:45] <delire> Cesarin: the option is " Option "Emulate3Buttons"
[12:45] <Cesarin> nope, that line is not there
[12:45] <kuroishinzoo> Hej / Hi
[12:45] <zyph> can anyone tell me how to make a device?
[12:45] <zyph> i'm at wits end here
[12:45] <delire> Cesarin: the whole line should actually be : Option          "Emulate3Buttons"       "true"
[12:46] <Cesarin> but why "emulate"? if it does have 5 button + mousewhell :P
[12:46] <delire> Cesarin: find the section "InputDevice" and add it.
[12:46] <Zodiac> hello guys
[12:46] <kuroishinzoo> i have a problem
[12:46] <funkyHat> hi Zodiac
[12:46] <Zodiac> What package do I need in order to burn audio CDs with k3B?
[12:47] <zeke1> Cesarin: whats breezy?
[12:47] <Cesarin> zekel: version of ubuntu? o_O
[12:47] <Cesarin> below input device of the mouse?
[12:47] <zeke1> Cesarin: 5.04
[12:47] <kuroishinzoo> im a new user of ubuntu, and i have never used linux before... and now i have some problems with the gnome packages..
[12:47] <Zodiac> K3B used to throw an error if it wasn't there, but now it doesnt
[12:47] <zeke1> 64
[12:47] <delire> Cesarin: yes it is a bit weird.. the wheel is the third button. my intellimouse is also up and running with: Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice" and protocol: Option          "Protocol"              "ImPS/2"
[12:47] <zyph> Zodiac, cdrtools i think
[12:47] <Cesarin> above "configured mouse" ?
[12:48] <Zodiac> You sure zyph?
[12:48] <zyph> Zodiac, not really
[12:48] <zyph> Zodiac, lol
[12:48] <Zodiac> doH!
[12:48] <Cesarin> ok, added emulate 3rd button
[12:48] <LinuxJones> kuroishinzoo, what's wrong ?
[12:48] <zeke1> Cesarin: v5.04 64bit
[12:48] <delire> Zodiac: you don't need an extra package i believe..
[12:48] <Zodiac> I remember is sounding differnt
[12:48] <Zodiac> well
[12:48] <h08817> how to install to beginning of hd?
[12:48] <Cesarin> zekel: breezy = 5.10
[12:48] <funkyHat> Zodiac, there's a good chance that package will link the one that K3b does need
[12:48] <Zodiac> when I try to burn mp3z, it tells me it cant
[12:48] <funkyHat> delire, you do
[12:48] <delire> Cesarin: be careful and make sure it looks just like the other options in that same block of lines.
[12:48] <zeke1> Cesarin: so how do i fix that
[12:48] <delire> funkyHat: oh..
[12:49] <Cesarin> Idid, lined up everything
[12:49] <h08817> !install
[12:49] <ubotu> I heard install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[12:49] <delire> Cesarin: good, no extra quotes and things..
[12:49] <Cesarin> zekel: no idea, I'm a noob using Breezy, but I had a problem with networking at start
[12:49] <zyph> synaptic is teh shiznat
[12:49] <Cesarin> ok, then should I log out and then press control + alt + backstpace?
[12:50] <Zodiac> doh
[12:50] <Zodiac> That wasnt it
[12:50] <Zodiac> hmmm
[12:50] <Zodiac> I had it in Hoary
[12:50] <Cesarin> zyph: I agree,m a lot of stuff should be there, and cant find them..
[12:50] <Cesarin> like flash's plugin
[12:50] <delire> Cesarin: really it is best to back up your old config first. maybe you should undo these changes and then do this?
[12:50] <zeke1> ok so anybody know how to fix or setup a network in ubuntu without breezy??
[12:50] <Zodiac> I have to remember to write this crap down
[12:50] <h08817> is it possible to install linux to the beginning of hte drive if windows is already installed?
[12:50] <zyph> wouldn't hotplug in theory detect and set up my mouse device?
[12:50] <Cesarin> delire: good idea I supose
[12:51] <delire> Cesarin: because if it doesn't work, you can be a little screwed and will need to edit this file from a console, using vim or nano.
[12:51] <zyph> Cesarin, just be glad you are in X
[12:51] <zyph> Cesarin, i've been screwed since i updated
[12:51] <Cesarin> delire: I know, already passed for that
[12:51] <delire> Cesarin: hehe ok.
[12:51] <Cesarin> because the new udev fucked up my mouse :P
[12:51] <Cesarin> had to rollback
[12:51] <zyph> lol
[12:51] <Cesarin> took me alot of troublers ( 4 hours )
[12:52] <kuroishinzoo> how do i change the permissions to the other harddrives??
[12:52] <Cesarin> zyph: actually,  I GOT SCREWED
[12:52] <Cesarin> but some guys helped me to recover
[12:52] <delire> Cesarin: upgrading to breezy ***prematurely*** i take it ;)?
[12:52] <zyph> Cesarin: oh yeah? share the knowledge!
[12:52] <kuroishinzoo> i want to access them
[12:52] <Cesarin> delire: im a total noob of linux man
[12:52] <Cesarin> I just downloaded the CD IMAGE wich I tought was the newest, and _STABLE_ ;P
[12:52] <Cesarin> burned it, and installed yesterday
[12:52] <zeke1> ok so anybody know how to fix or setup a network in ubuntu without breezy??
[12:52] <delire> kids, always wanting the latest and greatest ;)
[12:52] <zyph> breezy preview XD
[12:52] <Cesarin> first I had problems with my videocard ( radeon 9800 pro ) and the monitor frecuency
[12:53] <delire> zyph: note 'preview' ;)
[12:53] <zyph> *bites delire
[12:53] <Cesarin> then fixed that, but then the patches fuxed up my mouse, thus X didnt ran :P
[12:53] <delire> hehe
[12:53] <zyph> *chomp*
[12:53] <Cesarin> delire: im a windoze guy
[12:53] <kuroishinzoo> meep
[12:53] <zyph> it's updates fault
[12:53] <Cesarin> so you know how fast you have to update, if not, you're screwed with new viruses ;)
[12:53] <zyph> it's like, hey you there, update ubuntu
[12:53] <delire> Cesarin: good for you for diving into this..
[12:53] <zeke1> how do i setup my network and adsl?
[12:53] <zyph> and i'm like no, but it wouldn't be quiet, so i gave in to peer pressure
[12:53] <Cesarin> delire: well, I want my brain to "grow"
[12:54] <delire> Cesarin: precisely, i understand the urge.
[12:54] <Cesarin> not just be a bill gate's slave ;)
[12:54] <delire> Cesarin: and it will with Linux...
[12:54] <zyph> it's so much better to be a slave to linux then...
[12:54] <Cesarin> ok then..
[12:54] <zyph> blah
[12:54] <delire> Cesarin: i switched some 7 years ago from windows and i'm still learning huge amounts.
[12:54] <Cesarin> now help me to install that goodamn flash player :P
[12:54] <Cesarin> jk lol
[12:54] <zyph> *zyph hides his ass*
[12:54] <LinuxJones> zeke1, do sudo network-admin and see if your network card is there.
[12:55] <h08817> hey i have a question anyone willing to hear it?
[12:55] <zyph> ifconfig anyone?
[12:55] <delire> h08817: just ask
[12:55] <Cesarin> brb btw, gotta see if theinfamous X works
[12:55] <zyph> zeke1: man ifconfig
[12:55] <zyph> heh
[12:55] <h08817> i've been for 20 mins and no one even attempts to say yes or no that they can help
[12:55] <zyph> yes i can help
[12:55] <zyph> no i don't know
[12:56] <h08817> ok
[12:56] <zeke1> LinuxJones: it says cant find any devices
[12:56] <h08817> ha ha
[12:56] <delire> h08817: sometimes people are busy or distracted. try again..
[12:56] <zyph> my brain has fried
[12:56] <LinuxJones> zeke1, do you know what kind of network card you have ?
[12:56] <zyph> h08817: i've been working on this all day and am selfish
[12:56] <zeke1> yeah i have 2 onboar on nvidia nforce4: one is realtek other is marvel
[12:56] <thinman> what command to know which level are u running for network ?
[12:57] <LinuxJones> do you know the model of the realtek ?
[12:57] <thinman> who -r ?
[12:57] <zyph> i don't get the udev thing
[12:57] <LinuxJones> zeke1, sorry zeke1 ^^
[12:57] <h08817> well i need to get linux on my 160GB hd and my bios doesn't support ginormous hds and i get a grub error of 18 when i install linux so i found out that i need to install linux to the beginning of my hd the fist 1024 cylinders and I was wondering how do i do that?
[12:57] <zeke1> LinuxJones: im not exactly sure right now
[12:57] <cesarin> ok apes, here I am
[12:58] <LinuxJones> zeke1, do lspci and see if it lists the realtek card model
[12:58] <cesarin> holy shit batman..... Rita is now cat 5
[12:58] <zyph> cesarin: yeah i know
[12:58] <zeke1> LinuxJones: ok gotta log in again to linux will be back
[12:58] <zyph> so how do i do this udev thing?
[12:59] <LinuxJones> zeke1, ok
[12:59] <cesarin> buauajajajaja, the weather doesnt like bush :P
[12:59] <cesarin> its stalking all poor guys from new orleans
[12:59] <crimsun> zyph: presuming you're running Breezy, just update && upgrade
[12:59] <delire> h08817: hmm what about partitioning this into two partitions?
[12:59] <h08817> delire: what do u mean
[12:59] <zyph> crimsun: ok, it'll try it then
[12:59] <cesarin> crimsun: remember to dont update the UDEV version
[12:59] <cesarin> or it will destroy your "X"
[12:59] <The_Bastard> can ubunt use RPMs or Tarballs?
[01:00] <The_Bastard> ubuntu even
[01:00] <delire> h08817: you want to put Linux onto this 160GB disk?
[01:00] <cesarin> delire: the mouse doesnt seem to work :/
[01:00] <cesarin> should I just restart my computer completely?
[01:00] <LinuxJones> The_Bastard, what are you trying to install /
[01:00] <h08817> i do do that i have xp on part of it and then i create a partition for linux and on hte first boot i get the error 18
[01:00] <delire> cesarin: you managed to get into X?
[01:00] <cesarin> yeha
[01:00] <The_Bastard> some network monitoring stuff
[01:00] <zyph> cirmsun: public key is not available?
[01:00] <h08817> after the install
[01:00] <erUSUL> The_Bastard: it can but you should not use them
[01:00] <cesarin> Iloged out, then pressed control + alt + backstpace
[01:00] <cesarin> then loged in again
[01:00] <cesarin> and it didnt do anything :P
[01:01] <The_Bastard> ok
[01:01] <LinuxJones> The_Bastard, which programs they nmight be in the universe or multiverse repositories
[01:01] <cesarin> running fine, but I dont see any changes
[01:01] <delire> cesarin: hmm, do you have another mouse handy to check whether the wheel works at all?
[01:01] <erUSUL> The_Bastard: is asking for trauble
[01:01] <delire> cesarin: unplug it and in again.
[01:01] <crimsun> cesarin: err, what?
[01:01] <cesarin> mouse handy? o_O
[01:01] <cesarin> crimsun: what what? o_O
[01:01] <zyph> crimsun: public key is not available?
[01:01] <cesarin> delire: ok, will do,brb
[01:01] <The_Bastard> ok then can one of you suggest an app that can monitor usage on my network and help me steal bandwith during lan games
[01:01] <zyph> crimsun what the heck does that mean?
[01:02] <crimsun> cesarin: what are you referring to with "remember to dont update the UDEV version"?
[01:02] <The_Bastard> like all the other computers give up bandwith to mine ^_^
[01:02] <crimsun> zyph: I need more context
[01:02] <cesarin> crimson: I updated that, to .60 version
[01:02] <The_Bastard> the only linuxbox on the net
[01:02] <puff> Hm... I just tried to use System/Log Out/Hibernate, and I'm still here.
[01:02] <cesarin> and it destroyed my X giving me mouse errors
[01:02] <cesarin> had to force it to go back to .30 version
[01:02] <zyph> crimsun: i don't know how to output text to irc in console mode
[01:02] <cesarin> delire: nope, it still doesnt work
[01:02] <crimsun> cesarin: huh? what are you talking about ".30"?
[01:03] <delire> h08817: short of using some pretty hacky techniques i (others might) don't know of an easy way to install onto the first 1024 cylinders.. why not try upgrading your bios from windows and see if you can get support for such a big disk?
[01:03] <cesarin> ......
[01:03] <cesarin> crimsun: UDEV version
[01:03] <zyph> crimsun: gpg error
[01:03] <cesarin> 0.060-lubuntu14 is broken
[01:03] <crimsun> cesarin: no, 14 is the fixed version
[01:03] <h08817> delire: and how am i supposed to update my bios with a software upgrade?
[01:03] <cesarin> at least for me :P
[01:03] <LinuxJones> The_Bastard, how many computers are on your network ?
[01:03] <kuroishinzoo> can somebody help me??
[01:03] <cesarin> well I refuse to try it again for now heh :P
[01:03] <The_Bastard> well in a lan party upto 30
[01:04] <cesarin> I insalled the .60 yesterday
[01:04] <cesarin> and ruined my X :P
[01:04] <delire> cesarin: what is the exact name of this mouse?
[01:04] <LinuxJones> The_Bastard, you want to lag your opponents ?
[01:04] <cesarin> Delire: microsoft intellimouse explorer v3
[01:04] <zyph> crimsun: apt got messed up
[01:04] <crimsun> cesarin: that was ubuntu13. It was fixed in ubuntu14.
[01:04] <cesarin> USB mode
[01:04] <ThePyromaniac> wahoo! the guys at #C++ got me making C++ Code :D!
[01:04] <cesarin> ok crimson, then ill check that version later
[01:04] <erUSUL> kuroishinzoo: ask
[01:04] <delire> h08817: you have a windows partition? if so i would do it using an installer shipped by the motherboard manufacturer.
[01:05] <zyph> crimsun: what is the source list for ubuntu?
[01:05] <cesarin> delire: 1 mousewhell, 1 mousewhell button, 2 buttons infront  and 2 buttons (foward and back ) on the side
[01:05] <The_Bastard> well that to lol
[01:05] <crimsun> zyph: paste the error onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:05] <The_Bastard> i play diffrent games then them
[01:05] <delire> cesarin: that is a well supported mouse AFAIK.
[01:05] <The_Bastard> they use windows boxes
[01:05] <zyph> crimsun: i can't, i'm in console, and i don't have mouse services
[01:05] <The_Bastard> and play ragnarok >.<
[01:05] <cesarin> dlire: maybe I should update the UDEV?
[01:05] <The_Bastard> which steals butloads of bandwith from my gamers
[01:05] <The_Bastard> games even
[01:05] <crimsun> zyph: why don't you have mouse service?
[01:06] <delire> cesarin: well i am not sure that will do much. does the mouse cursor actually move when you move the mouse?
[01:06] <zyph> crimsun: because i have no mouse device
[01:06] <h08817> delire: o ok i have that cd
[01:06] <zyph> crimsun: it got fcked up when i updated
[01:06] <cesarin> zyph: no core pointer error?
[01:06] <The_Bastard> so i want to find smething to exploit my network and give me bandwith when i need it
[01:06] <h08817> delire: my motherboard cd and so u think i should just install the cd?
[01:06] <zyph> crimsun: right!
[01:06] <cesarin> delire,  yeah, everything works just fine
[01:06] <cesarin> except the mousewhell
[01:06] <crimsun> zyph: did you ''sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade'' ?
[01:06] <LinuxJones> The_Bastard, I'm not helping you do that
[01:06] <delire> h08817: if your bios doesn't support such big disks then you will be getting mixed messages (or just errors) from grub.
[01:06] <LinuxJones> :)
[01:06] <cesarin> the mouse by itself, is detected as a "generic" mouse
[01:06] <The_Bastard> O_o
[01:07] <zyph> crimsun: not sure
[01:07] <The_Bastard> it's my network i set it up
[01:07] <delire> cesarin: but the wheel doesn't work?
[01:07] <The_Bastard> O_O
[01:07] <cesarin> nope
[01:07] <zyph> crimsun: should i?
[01:07] <cesarin> neither the forward and back buttons
[01:07] <cesarin> just the main buttons
[01:07] <crimsun> zyph: then type it at the keyboard now
[01:07] <cesarin> and middle
[01:07] <The_Bastard> and it's in my house on my property
[01:08] <erUSUL> The_Bastard: neither I
[01:08] <LinuxJones> The_Bastard, that's doesn't mean you should be cheating the other players. (This is off-topic conversation BTW)
[01:08] <The_Bastard> omg you guys are so mean
[01:08] <delire> cesarin: do you have a line like:         Option          "Protocol"              "ImPS/2" ... in your xorg.conf?
[01:08] <zyph> crimsun: should it be connecting to us.debian.org?
[01:08] <cesarin> yeah
[01:08] <crimsun> zyph: no, why would it?
[01:08] <kuroishinzoo> ive got some problems with permissions and so on
[01:08] <The_Bastard> ok well thanx and sorry about the off topic
[01:08] <cesarin> crimsun: want me to tell him how I fixed my no core pointer error?
[01:08] <zyph> crimsun: i think i tried using dselect and it reset all my defaults to debian stable
[01:08] <LinuxJones> kuroishinzoo, permissions on windows partitions ?
[01:08] <cesarin> I wrote the instructions on a paper ^
[01:08] <delire> cesarin: use my name if you are writing to me so i can see you..
[01:08] <omp> kuroishinzoo: you need to be more specific
[01:08] <cesarin> delire, okey
[01:09] <wolki> hi!
[01:09] <cesarin> delire,  still not used to xchat heh :>
[01:09] <tombs> hi ppl
[01:09] <cesarin> <--mIRC moron
[01:09] <LinuxJones> The_Bastard, that's ok you can ask in #off-topic
[01:09] <unf> nas
[01:09] <crimsun> zyph: then reset them to the Ubuntu repositories
[01:09] <delire> cesarin: oks
[01:09] <The_Bastard> kk
[01:09] <zyph> crimsun: still not working
[01:09] <kuroishinzoo> i have ubuntu 5.10 and im new on using linux
[01:09] <shackan> anybody who got vlc to spit some audio here ?
[01:09] <zyph> crimsun: how do i do that?
[01:09] <delire> cesarin: so.. you do have the line:         Option          "Protocol"              "ImPS/2"
[01:09] <P229> is there a way to install a local deb with synaptic?
[01:09] <crimsun> zyph: ask the bot, ubotu, about the default repositories.
[01:09] <cesarin> delire, yes I do
[01:09] <kuroishinzoo> i cant access my hdd
[01:09] <zyph> ubotu?
[01:09] <LinuxJones> kuroishinzoo, ok your trying to access files from windows ?
[01:09] <delire> cesarin: hmm
[01:10] <omp> kuroishinzoo: are you using the sudo command?
[01:10] <cesarin> should it be ImUSB?
[01:10] <cesarin> since im using my mouse in USB mode
[01:10] <zyph> where is ubotu?
[01:10] <kuroishinzoo> i dont have windows on my computer :)
[01:10] <crimsun> shackan: System> Preferences> Sound> uncheck Enable sound server startup, then start vlc
[01:10] <omp> kuroishinzoo: are you susing sudo or not? :)
[01:10] <kuroishinzoo> ive tried
[01:10] <crimsun> shackan: when you're finished using vlc, reenable that checkbox
[01:10] <delire> cesarin: and this line? :         Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"
[01:10] <cesarin> yeah it does
[01:10] <zyph> crimsun: where is ubotu?
[01:10] <shackan> installed vlc, installed vlc-plugin-esd, chosed EsounD as default output module, still no sound -> [00000280]  esd audio output error: cannot open esound socket (format 0x00001021 at 44100 Hz)
[01:10] <delire> cesarin: hmm hmm
[01:11] <crimsun> zyph: right here in the channel, why?
[01:11] <LinuxJones> kuroishinzoo, ok what is on /dev/hda ?
[01:11] <zyph> crimsun: i didn't know
[01:11] <The_Bastard> off topic is empty >.<
[01:11] <crimsun> shackan: is esd running?
[01:11] <kuroishinzoo> only the root can access the hdb and hdc
[01:11] <cesarin> delire,  want me to scratch your goote while you think? :P
[01:11] <omp> kuroishinzoo: if you are doing something from within a terminal and getting permission errors, make sure you are doing " sudo commandhere "
[01:11] <zyph> ubotu: what are the default repositories?
[01:11] <ubotu> zyph: I think you lost me on that one
[01:12] <GhostFreeman> whats the command to run eye of gnome?
[01:12] <crimsun> ubotu: !repositories
[01:12] <ubotu> crimsun: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:12] <shackan> crimsun, I forgot to say I already killed esd
[01:12] <omp> kuroishinzoo: if you don't know already, sudo gives you root permissions
[01:12] <nalioth> GhostFreeman: try eog
[01:12] <crimsun> shackan: then restart esd before you start vlc
[01:12] <zyph> ubotu: !repositories
[01:12] <wolki> cesarin: your mouse not working? had the same problem today
[01:12] <GhostFreeman> ok
[01:12] <kuroishinzoo> but i cant access them anywhay
[01:12] <zyph> ubotu: tell me about repositories
[01:12] <kuroishinzoo> anyway
[01:12] <GhostFreeman> eog works
[01:12] <delire> cesarin: no, my goatee is not free hairware. hmm then in this case, i would ask to see if any one else has this same mouse and then simply consult their xorg.conf. very weird..
[01:12] <shackan> crimsun, so vlc wants esd running (argh, too many TLA for me :) or not ?
[01:13] <kuroishinzoo> shall i use the command in the terminal??
[01:13] <cesarin> wolki: my mouse is working, I fixed it already but it just does the basics, not all buttons
[01:13] <zyph> ubotu: tell me about default repositories
[01:13] <zyph> ubotu: help me dammit
[01:13] <cesarin> delire: but you sure a usb mouse should be set to "Im PS/2" ?
[01:13] <crimsun> shackan: well if you're trying to use the esd output for vlc, yes, it makes sense to have esd running
[01:13] <cesarin> and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?highlight=%28repositories%29 <-- default repositories
[01:13] <wolki> cesarin: ok then it's not the same problem.
[01:13] <kuroishinzoo> now im root
[01:13] <crimsun> zyph: see what cesarin pasted
[01:13] <cesarin> woki. actuall yI had a fatal error with the mouse
[01:13] <delire> cesarin: that works for the intellimouse yes.
[01:13] <cesarin> but fixed already by going back on the UDEV
[01:13] <zyph> crimsun: console... remember?
[01:14] <cesarin> delire: weird.. isnt there a tool to auto force X to autodetect my mouse?
[01:14] <crimsun> zyph: so? use w3m
[01:14] <befortin> suckers
[01:14] <zacch> hi, I'm using Breezy Preview - how I can I disable the synaptic icon in Gnome? (in the upper right corner)
[01:14] <shackan> crimsun, it's linux, often what 'makes sense' does not work :) thanks a lot anyway, started esd and same error, I'll see what's wrong here...
[01:14] <ORiON2012> zacch: right click it
[01:14] <cesarin> zacch: disable notifications? o_O
[01:14] <ORiON2012> zacch: should be obvious after that
[01:14] <crimsun> shackan: works fine here
[01:14] <delire> cesarin: why not backup your config and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:15] <cesarin> delire: because I did that like 20 times , and it didnt worked with the botched UDEV lol
[01:15] <cesarin> and im scared to ruin it again :P
[01:15] <zyph> crimsun: so how do i copy that to the next console?
[01:15] <kuroishinzoo> i want to give all the users permission to the whole computer but how??
[01:15] <zacch> ORiON2012, I have them disabled already. but the icon still sits there
[01:15] <cesarin> Ill install the latest UDEV and we'll see how it goes :P
[01:15] <delire> cesarin: ok.. sure
[01:15] <crimsun> zyph: type it.
[01:16] <sn0n> hey, anyone else have the resolution problem when they come back from screensaver sometimes? like.. everything is jumbled on the screen (and only way to fix is Ctrl Shift - +_
[01:16] <delire> kuroishinzoo: ****extremely unwise****
[01:16] <erUSUL> kuroishinzoo, you do not want to do that...
[01:16] <zyph> nevermind
[01:16] <nalioth> hi battlecat
[01:16] <LinuxJones> kuroishinzoo, that's not good :)
[01:16] <cesarin> wolki: what problem you have?
[01:16] <kuroishinzoo> why??
[01:16] <cesarin> and Im leaving to college, will you be here later delire ?
[01:16] <kuroishinzoo> its only me who work on the computer
[01:16] <sn0n> kuroishinzoo, but your online
[01:16] <erUSUL> kuroishinzoo, anybody could do rm -Rf / and wipe out your computer
[01:16] <kuroishinzoo> yes
[01:17] <delire> kuroishinzoo: and people on the other side of the earth.
[01:17] <sn0n> if ANYTHING malicious happens.. ur.. well.. shit outta luck
[01:17] <erUSUL> kuroishinzoo, even you by mistake
[01:17] <funkyHat> can someone using hoary tell me the name of the package in synaptic that starts libqt3 and ends in -mt
[01:17] <sn0n> funkyHat, LoL.. are you having a Opera moment ?
[01:17] <cesarin> delire, : will you be here later?
[01:17] <crimsun> funkyHat: use packages.ubuntu.com to search
[01:17] <funkyHat> sn0n, i'm reporting the bug that i patched earlier to opera :P
[01:17] <sn0n> funkyHat, libqt3c102-mt_3.3.4-3_i386.deb
[01:17] <delire> cesarin: i write from Europe. very late here.
[01:18] <funkyHat> thanks :)
[01:18] <cesarin> ic, then by tomorrow I supose?
[01:18] <sn0n> thats what got opera running for me ;-)
[01:18] <delire> cesarin: perhaps..
[01:18] <cesarin> delire, well thanks  alof for the help anyway
[01:18] <funkyHat> no doubt they'll fix it when breezy is released, but it can't hurt
[01:18] <duce> Hm, I have problems in installing (k)ubuntu - X ist starting after the installation, but then nothing else is happening...
[01:18] <cesarin> see you guys later
[01:18] <delire> cesarin: no problem..
[01:18] <kuroishinzoo> but how do i give other users permission to access the other hdd then??
[01:18] <DGH> hey all
[01:18] <cesarin> I hopefully will learn how to install the rest of the stuff I do use constantly :P
[01:18] <cesarin> bye
[01:19] <carlk> how do I get a fixed DNS IP to be used?  (I have been messing with dhclient.conf with no luck)
[01:19] <sn0n> im assuming the udev ubuntu14 is the fixed one?
[01:19] <shackan> crimsun, funny, rather than sound, I get a lot of garbage on the console, I assume the sound data goes out actually, but only to the wrong place :D
[01:19] <kuroishinzoo> they are mounted but i cant access the information on them
[01:19] <crimsun> sn0n: well, yes, hence I changed the topic.
[01:19] <sn0n> oo.. sry.. lol.. didnt even look
[01:19] <delire> kuroishinzoo: using the 'user' option in /etc/fstab
[01:19] <kuroishinzoo> ??
[01:19] <erUSUL> !tell kuroishinzoo about WindowsDrives
[01:20] <DGH> can anyone help me explain how to fix totem/gstreamer audio being out of sync?  Is the only way to use the xine back end instead?
[01:20] <delire> kuroishinzoo: eg: "/dev/hda3  /otherdisk  vfat ro,user,noauto  0  0"
[01:20] <sn0n> DGH: when you figure it out.. let me know.. i hate watching office space like a kung fu movie
[01:20] <delire> kuroishinzoo: see /etc/fstab. 'fstab == File System TABle
[01:21] <DGH> no doubt
[01:21] <sn0n> xine didnt even work
[01:21] <sn0n> i did EVERYTHING the manuals said
[01:21] <DGH> I've heard some folks have had luck doing that
[01:21] <sn0n> google'd for like 4 days..
[01:21] <delire> kuroishinzoo: to enable them to read AND write to that disk you would change 'ro' (Read Only) to 'rw' (Read Write)
[01:22] <sn0n> ended up setting up a windows box.. LoL..
[01:22] <sn0n> now i have a win2k running as my media box
[01:22] <sn0n> lol
[01:22] <zyph> crimsun: ok it talks about using synaptic, i know how to use synaptic
[01:22] <DGH> have not tried it myself, figure it should work correctly as is or should be scrapped/repackaged 'til it does
[01:22] <erUSUL> sn0n, my xine works out of the box on hoary whats the problem?
[01:22] <ORiON2012> DGH: xine backend works for most, gstreamer has issues for many
[01:22] <zyph> crimson, you know what i don't care, i'm too hot and too pissed and i need a smoke
[01:23] <sn0n> erUSUL, dont worry, it wont get fixed by me telling you, i've done EVERYTHING
[01:23] <Octane> can someone please tell me -- how do i get an "aptitude dist-upgrade" to respect my manually removed packages (IE Kopete0
[01:23] <delire> ORiON2012: this should be resolved when breezy goes live.
[01:23] <zyph> crimson: i think i'll just shoot my computer
[01:23] <j-linux> Is there a keyboard shortcut for opening a terminal?  This would be very helpful...
[01:23] <Octane> CTRL+ALT+F1-6
[01:24] <sn0n> when will breezys kernel be compiled with gcc 4?
[01:24] <kuroishinzoo> /dev/hda3  /otherdisk  vfat ro,user,noauto  0  0
[01:24] <delire> Octane: if you have manually removed them they won't be upgraded or installed. when you say 'manually' do you mean apt-get remove or dpkg -P or using synaptic?
[01:24] <ORiON2012> delire: totem's gstreamer backend hasn't worked for me for a LONG time and accross 3 diferent distros
[01:24] <kuroishinzoo> access denied
[01:24] <funkyHat> Octane, that might not be what j-linux meant
[01:24] <j-linux> Octane: I know those, but is there anyway to do it within Gnome?
[01:24] <erUSUL> j-linux, in System->preferences->key combinations?
[01:24] <DGH> I've noticed the same ORiON2012
[01:24] <delire> kuroishinzoo: 'otherdisk' is not meant to be taken literally ;)
[01:24] <j-linux> erUSUL: so there is not a special universal keyboard shortcut in Linux?  You have to make your own?
[01:24] <kuroishinzoo> lol
[01:25] <erUSUL> kuroishinzoo, you mounted ro (read only) change that for rw
[01:25] <delire> kuroishinzoo: replace that with what ever disk you want people to have access to. as always, use what is written here as a guide ;)
[01:25] <kuroishinzoo> soory
[01:25] <DGH> figured there may be some obvious fix somewhere though, I guess not.
[01:25] <kuroishinzoo> sorry
[01:25] <erUSUL>  /dev/hda3  /otherdisk  vfat *rw*,user,noauto  0  0
[01:25] <delire> kuroishinzoo: hey we're all new once ;)
[01:25] <sn0n> when will breezys kernel be compiled with gcc 4?  anyone know ?
[01:25] <Octane> delire: i did aptitude remove kopete, but now whenever i do a dist-upgrade it wants to install it again (Along with metapackage kubutnu-desktop)
[01:25] <yereth> anyone know what would be good variables to give to /etc/apt/preferences to make ubuntu downgrade to hoary?
[01:25] <delire> erUSUL: yes, i told him that.
[01:25] <erUSUL> j-linux, in linux everything is user configurable
[01:25] <delire> Octane: ahah, do this 'dpkg -l | grep kopete'
[01:25] <subterrific> sn0n: i don't think breezy's kernel will ever be compiled with gcc4, that might be a breezy+1 thing
[01:26] <DGH> j-linux: system>preferences>keyboard shortcuts and make one
[01:26] <delire> Octane: see anything there?
[01:26] <Octane> delire: rc  kopete                                          3.4.2-0ubuntu3                       instant messenger for KDE
[01:26] <Octane> ahh i gotta remove it using dpkg, huh
[01:26] <sn0n> subterrific, then how am i suppsed to compile vmware modules to work? or nvidia drivers?
[01:26] <yereth> setting a=stable really high and a=testing low doesn't work..  l=hoary and l=breezy doesn't work either
[01:26] <yereth> anyone?
[01:26] <j-linux> erUSUL: that is the great thing about it... :)  I was just wondering if there was a preset one, like ALT-f4 closes windows, etc.  I'll use the menu and make one
[01:26] <subterrific> sn0n: install gcc3.4
[01:26] <cafuego_> You're not supposed to compile nvidia drivers, they're prebuild.
[01:27] <delire> Octane: hmm, see it wasnt removed. this time do this. 'sudo dpkg -P kopete'
[01:27] <alejandro> whats up evryone
[01:27] <sn0n> i think ur missing my point.. if breezy ships with a gcc 4 and a kernel compiled with gcc 3.4... ALOT of craps gonna be.. broken
[01:27] <alejandro> its my first time
[01:27] <Octane> delire: i dont get why an aptitude remove didnt remove it
[01:27] <cafuego_> sn0n: No, it's not.
[01:27] <delire> Octane: the -P flag means 'Purge' eg total cleanse.
[01:27] <alejandro> trying jubuntu
[01:27] <subterrific> sn0n: no it isn't
[01:27] <Octane> right
[01:27] <kuroishinzoo> /dev/hda3  /hdc1  vfat rw,user,noauto  0  0
[01:27] <DGH> well yeah, you kind of are, but they compile against a binary lib (when you use their installer and not the prepackaged ubuntu form)
[01:27] <cafuego_> sn0n: Only if (like say redhat) you compile the kernel with a BROKEN gcc.
[01:27] <kuroishinzoo> like this then??
[01:27] <yereth> cafuego_: do you know what kind of Pin variables could work?
[01:27] <subterrific> sn0n: gcc3 and gcc4 are compatible for every language except c++
[01:27] <DGH> thanks for the info again, later all
[01:28] <sn0n> then why cant i compile my pretty lil vmware modules ?
[01:28] <sn0n> ;-)
[01:28] <delire> Octane: yes, that does seem strange. regardless, apt and aptitude are advanced, network friendly frontends to dpkg, the real package manager in debian systems.
[01:28] <Octane> delire: look! it's still there when i try to do a dist-upgrade: The following NEW packages will be installed: adept debtags kdebluetooth kdenetwork kopete kubuntu-desktop lib32gcj6...
[01:28] <erUSUL> kuroishinzoo, yes this will do
[01:28] <cafuego_> yereth: If you just run hoary you don't need to pin.
[01:28] <Octane> delire: im not TOO much of a newbie :)
[01:28] <delire> Octane: something else is relying on kopete.
[01:28] <subterrific> sn0n: because you haven't applied the patch for vmware to compile with 2.6.12?
[01:28] <sn0n> wtf.. where i get that ?
[01:28] <sn0n> lol
[01:28] <Octane> delire: only thing that's relying on kopete are metapackages kubuntu-desktop
[01:28] <yereth> cafuego_: was actually meaning to ask crimsun, but thanx for responding anyway.. damn tab-completion ;)
[01:28] <delire> Octane: kopete is a dependency of another package.. i would say it's kubuntu-desktop
[01:28] <Octane> and kdenetowrk
[01:29] <yereth> cafuego_: I am downgrading you see
[01:29] <delire> Octane: are you using KDE?
[01:29] <Octane> kdenetwork*
[01:29] <subterrific> sn0n: vmware's site
[01:29] <Octane> yup kubuntu
[01:29] <sn0n> you happen to know the url ?
[01:29] <Octane> delire: kubuntu-desktop and kdenetwork are both metapackages
[01:29] <erUSUL> delire, well this description is not acurate apt resolves dependencies and install them
[01:29] <kuroishinzoo> it must be wrong.. because the terminalsays that the file dont exist
[01:29] <sn0n> (to the pathches)
[01:29] <delire> Octane: well dependencies are dependencies.. not much you can do about that without getting into some less useful territory.
[01:29] <sn0n> hehe.. nevermind
[01:29] <subterrific> sn0n: nope, i just know this from a friend who told me he got vmware working on breezy
[01:29] <cyphase> is there a good server management interface?
[01:30] <delire> erUSUL: advanced frontends seems 'apt' to me ;)
[01:30] <sn0n> i see there is a Updates/Patches
[01:30] <yereth> anyone experience with DOWNGRADING and /etc/apt/preferences
[01:30] <yereth> ?
[01:30] <cafuego_> cyphase: Yes, 'bash'.
[01:30] <Octane> i guess ill just use apt-get instead of aptitude
[01:30] <cyphase> cafeugo_, you know what i mean
[01:30] <cafuego_> cyphase: Can't say I do.
[01:30] <sn0n> hmm
[01:30] <sn0n> thats all esx crap thou
[01:30] <kuroishinzoo> hda ext3 hdb ext3 hdc vfat
[01:31] <cyphase> well, something that doesn't require that much typing
[01:31] <erUSUL> delire, dpkg can not resolve dependencies apt dselect can they are more than front-ends
[01:31] <delire> Octane: personally i don't dist-upgrade, but i wouldn't advise Ubuntu users to do the same.
[01:31] <cyphase> a web interface maybe..
[01:31] <erUSUL> ;)
[01:31] <cafuego_> cyphase: No good ones, no.
[01:31] <Octane> why not dist-upgrade
[01:31] <delire> erUSUL: yes perhaps..
[01:31] <yereth> crimsun: are you there?
[01:31] <kuroishinzoo> i dont understand what is wrong
[01:31] <cyphase> what's the best one?
[01:31] <cyphase> besides webmin..
[01:31] <cyphase> lol
[01:31] <cafuego_> cyphase: Payware
[01:32] <cyphase> mhmm
[01:32] <delire> Octane: i use debian primarily, it's a habit i picked up..
[01:32] <cyphase> right
[01:32] <cafuego_> And even then it's fairly shit
[01:32] <davidino> hi all I'm a new user
[01:32] <yereth> question keywords: downgrade, breezy, hoary, help!
[01:33] <delire> kuroishinzoo: post your /etc/fsab to a pastebin.
[01:33] <Octane> yereth: no yes upgrade, ok!
[01:33] <yereth> earth to #ubuntu
[01:33] <ORiON2012> yereth: doesn't, work, well
[01:33] <cafuego_> yereth: You can't downgrade debian boxes.
[01:33] <delire> kuroishinzoo: /etc/*fstab
[01:33] <yereth> can't downgrade.. doesn't work.. no yes upgrade, ok
[01:33] <delire> cafuego_: you can but it will die in the process.
[01:33] <yereth> right.. that's clear
[01:33] <kuroishinzoo> where do i enter the chmod 777
[01:33] <cafuego_> yereth: *maybe* if you stripped it back to a base system, then did it manuall, then reinstalled stuff.
[01:33] <dooglus> is it worth making a bug report for typos in the manual pages of 'universe' packages, or should I just ignore it?
[01:34] <kuroishinzoo> wouldnt that work??
[01:34] <yereth> so my only chance is completely reinstalling then it seems
[01:34] <yereth> cafuego_: sounds tricky
[01:34] <yereth> and more work than reinstalling
[01:34] <GhostFreeman> is UbuntuGuide down?
[01:34] <cafuego_> GhostFreeman: yep
[01:34] <delire> kuroishinzoo: don't go making an entire partition rwx for all users, groups and others..
[01:34] <cafuego_> yereth: yes, it is.
[01:35] <P229> dooglus: do they affect the meaning of the text?
[01:35] <delire> kuroishinzoo: that's like leaving your card keys in the lock while you go for a quick beer.
[01:35] <yereth> cafuego_: NIS makes apt-get cry atm and my xserver is down
[01:35] <Octane> kuroishinzoo: in a shell, type "chmod 777 <file>"
[01:35] <GhostFreeman> cafuego_ you know why its down
[01:35] <dooglus> P229: no.  it just looks ugly.
[01:35] <cafuego_> yereth; To be honest, in my experience, NIS makes *everything* cry sometimes ;-)
[01:35] <cafuego_> GhostFreeman: karma
[01:35] <dooglus> P229: they wrote "choises" instead of "choices".  no biggie I guess.
[01:35] <ORiON2012> GhostFreeman: they're changing servers
[01:36] <yereth> cafuego_: I'm sre :)
[01:36] <P229> dooglus: personally, I wouldn't bother, but it certainly would make ubuntu (and, by extension, the community) look more professional
[01:36] <delire> Octane: AFAIK he wants to do this to his entire partition.
[01:36] <GhostFreeman> so it'll be back up
[01:36] <Octane> why would you want to 777 your entire part
[01:36] <nalioth> GhostFreeman: ubuntuguide is poison
[01:36] <delire> Octane: precis
[01:36] <yereth> cafuego_: would be nice if it wouldn't make apt stop functioning correctly
[01:36] <GhostFreeman> nalioth: I've found it resourceful
[01:36] <GhostFreeman> moreso than the Wiki
[01:37] <apokryphos> You *can* downgrade using apt_preferences
[01:37] <yereth> apokryphos: I've tried
[01:37] <delire> apokryphos: from unstable to stable? i've yet to see it ;)
[01:38] <yereth> apokryphos: it didn't seem to work somehow.. very annoying
[01:38] <apokryphos> delire: no, breezy to hoary
[01:38] <delire> apokryphos: right, harsh but doable perhaps.
[01:38] <apokryphos> if you pin ubuntu hoary above, erm, 1000?
[01:38] <cafuego_> Downgrading across libc6 incompatibilities, hmm, hurties.
[01:38] <apokryphos> then dist-upgrade; check the man apt_preferences
[01:38] <yereth> apokryphos: setting a=stable really high and a=testing low doesn't work..  l=hoary and l=breezy doesn't work either
[01:38] <P229> dooglus: ah
[01:38] <dooglus> P229: aah?
[01:39] <apokryphos> I didn't say that; I forgot exactly how; check the man page
[01:39] <kuroishinzoo> its only the hdb and hdc hdd
[01:39] <P229> dooglus: "oh, i see" :)
[01:39] <yereth> apokryphos: it doesn't say what variables to use exactly
[01:39] <apokryphos> I don't see why pinning hoary, changing your repos etc would work
[01:39] <kuroishinzoo> like chmod 777 /dev/hdc1 ??
[01:39] <dooglus> P229: I didn't say anything.
[01:40] <eno> so I am upgrading now, hong long does it take?
[01:40] <kuroishinzoo> like chmod 777 /dev/hdc1 ??
[01:40] <dcraven> kuroishinzoo: I really hope that drive isn't important for your system.
[01:40] <P229> dooglus: I guess that typo does kinda say "idiot" instead of "typographical error"
[01:40] <carlk> "network settings" has a place to enter DNS IP's, but they get overwritten by the next dhcp renew.  is that the way it is spozed to work?
[01:40] <delire> kuroishinzoo: jeez don't do that.
[01:41] <delire> kuroishinzoo: just mount the drive as i told you, with user,rw etc.
[01:41] <yereth> apokryphos: I pinned hoary with a high priority and breezy with a very low priority.. that was the whole point right?
[01:41] <dooglus> why oh why do the universe guys use such a crappy bug reporting system?
[01:41] <delire> kuroishinzoo: paste your fstab to a pastebin.. have you used a pastebin?
[01:41] <apokryphos> yereth: ask bob2, I think he knows (and I've gotta go now) -- saw him mention it IIRC.
[01:41] <dcraven> dooglus: Because they are trying to make it better.
[01:41] <kuroishinzoo> no
[01:42] <delire> dcraven: hehe strange redirection of the question there.
[01:42] <Linner> hey ya'll
[01:42] <apokryphos> adieu for now /me -> out
[01:42] <yereth> apokryphos: thanx and bye :)
[01:42] <kuroishinzoo> its my problem... i dont understand what your talking about.. :(
[01:42] <delire> kuroishinzoo: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/
[01:42] <dooglus> dcraven: it's not very good at the moment.  just spits out "500 Internal Server Error" whenever I try to visit.
[01:42] <Linner> sorry about that... i just had FiOS put in so it knocked me off line
[01:43] <delire> dooglus: that sounds broken, not crappy. perhaps they are working on it currently.
[01:43] <Linner> !tell Linner ati
[01:43] <dcraven> Malone is *constantly* being worked on it seems.
[01:43] <dooglus> maybe one day it will be nearly as good as bugzilla.
[01:43] <delire> kuroishinzoo: no matter, a pastebin is a place where people can paste text to be viewed by others for a short period of time.
[01:43] <delire> kuroishinzoo: think of it like a blackboard.
[01:43] <dcraven> I have a feeling kuroishinzoo is gonna bork his system...
[01:44] <koneng> how do i disconnect my ipod? my ipod's screen says "Do No Disconnect" but i don;t think it's mounted (its not on the desktop)
[01:44] <delire> dcraven: yes, he's close to breaking his system.
[01:44] <dcraven> delire: What mount is that drive that he's gonna 777?
[01:44] <delire> kuroishinzoo: do you know what chmod 777 means?
[01:44] <GhostFreeman> rwxrwxrwx
[01:44] <kuroishinzoo> yes i know..
[01:45] <kuroishinzoo> 124124124
[01:45] <delire> dcraven: he wants all users to be able to mount, read write execute on the partition.
[01:45] <kuroishinzoo> :P
[01:45] <delire> kuroishinzoo: well not exactly ;)
[01:45] <dcraven> Oh.. It's just a storage drive?
[01:45] <moparfan90> hello everyone
[01:45] <kuroishinzoo> i used it when i tried to install gentoo a couple of days ago..
[01:46] <delire> kuroishinzoo: why not paste that fstab and then i can paste a change for you to use?
[01:46] <kuroishinzoo> didnt work :(
[01:46] <dcraven> heh
[01:46] <moparfan90> how do i disable thing starting on boot?
[01:46] <delire> kuroishinzoo: paste what *didn't* work to that pastebin.
[01:46] <kuroishinzoo> what shall i write in the terminal?? :/
[01:46] <cafuego_> The iPod would't use a unix FS, so running chmod would be pointless. Mount it with umask,fmauk,dmask options set to FORCE it to 777.
[01:46] <dcraven> moparfan90: Can you be more specific as to what type of thing?
[01:46] <delire> kuroishinzoo: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ go to this page for me now.
[01:47] <eno> so I am upgrading to Breezy now, hong long should it take for all the downloads, an hour?
[01:47] <delire> cafuego_: ipod?
[01:47] <selinium> moparfan90, chmod -x the app in /etc/init.d
[01:47] <delire> kuroishinzoo: is this an ipod you're trying to mount?
[01:48] <dcraven> eno: Depends on your connection. There is much to download.
[01:48] <selinium> moparfan90, Be careful though, you might switch off something you need for the boot
[01:48] <kuroishinzoo> kuroishinzoo@RONJA:~$ sudo su
[01:48] <kuroishinzoo> Password:
[01:48] <kuroishinzoo> root@RONJA:/home/kuroishinzoo# /dev/hda3 /hdc1 vfat ro,user.noauto 0 0
[01:48] <kuroishinzoo> bash: /dev/hda3: Filen eller katalogen finns inte
[01:48] <kuroishinzoo> root@RONJA:/home/kuroishinzoo#
[01:48] <eno> like what, a gig?
[01:48] <Linner> so are we still having problems with the upgrade to breezy?
[01:48] <cafuego_> delire: Didn't I see someone mention an ipod earleir?
[01:48] <koneng> i have an ipod that im trying to eject/disconnect
[01:48] <Linner> i know there were some serious problems today
[01:48] <delire> cafuego_ maybe, i didn't <checks>
[01:48] <enntee> Can anyone recommend an NFS alternative that works transparently?
[01:49] <delire> cafuego_ ahah different nicks.
[01:49] <dcraven> eno: When you apt-get dist-upgrade, it will tell you how much needs to be downloaded, and ask you whether to continue or not.
[01:49] <eno> oh ok 540MB
[01:49] <kuroishinzoo> no a 80gb hdd and an 120gb hdd..... they are mounted but i cant use them.. :(
[01:49] <cafuego_> delire: ugh, these kids today all look alike ;-)
[01:49] <delire> ;)
[01:49] <eno> so like an hour I guess, ;P
[01:49] <nalioth> enntee: once you get NFS set up, it IS transparent
[01:49] <enntee> nalioth: yeah, i know. but it's a PITA trying to keep my uid/gid's in sync
[01:50] <Linner> nalioth: hello :)
[01:50] <cafuego_> enntee: Then run 'ugidd' and don't do it manually
[01:50] <delire> kuroishinzoo: paste the fstab to the pastebin and i can help you.
[01:50] <test34> eno, then isnt it better to download the iso ?
[01:50] <enntee> cafuego: i'll read up on that. thanks for the tip
[01:50] <cafuego_> enntee: You only need to map UIDs by hand if you run an 3rd party OS like MacOS. Linux can handle it transparently by using the map_daemon option.
[01:50] <kuroishinzoo> fstab??
[01:51] <test34> kuroishinzoo, /etc/fstab
[01:51] <moparfan90> well whats some stuff i dont need at boot i can disable (i  dont run any servers or mail stuff)
[01:51] <SlicerDicer-> anybody use amarok for streaming?
[01:51] <dooglus> do I need the package "linux" and its dependancies?  what is it?
[01:52] <eno> gah!
[01:52] <kuroishinzoo> access denied
[01:52] <cafuego_> !info linux
[01:52] <test34> moparfan90, probably alot of stuff
[01:52] <karimw786> anyone know where i can get a xine plugin for firefox?
[01:52] <kuroishinzoo> sudo su
[01:52] <moparfan90> do you kow any off hand?
[01:52] <nalioth> dooglus: it'd be hard to get breezy to run on "windows and its dependencies"
[01:52] <kuroishinzoo> root
[01:52] <cafuego_> dooglus: There is no such package.
[01:52] <kuroishinzoo> /etc/fstab
[01:52] <dooglus> nalioth: but the package 'linux' I mean.
[01:52] <kuroishinzoo> access denied
[01:52] <dooglus> cafuego_: ?
[01:52] <delire> kuroishinzoo: copy thse contents of it to the pastebin URL i gave you earlier: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/
[01:52] <kuroishinzoo> :'(
[01:53] <nalioth> dooglus: you need it. you are running it, right?
[01:53] <Linner> ok so here's the thing... i was in here for quite some time this morning and for a while this afternoon and I'm still not getting anywhere.  I was told that if I wanted to dual boot that windoze needs to go in first then breezy on another partition.   Is there anything else I need to know before I start installing breezy for the FIFTH time???
[01:53] <cafuego_> dooglus: There is as far as I can tell no package named 'linux'.
[01:53] <nalioth> Linner: howdy
[01:53] <selinium> moparfan90, type  ls -r /etc/init.d in a term to see whatstarts
[01:53] <moparfan90> does anyone know how i can install the new version of limewire? its only in .rpm
[01:53] <Linner> nalioth: my hero :)
[01:53] <nalioth> Linner: nothing else than what we went over this morning
[01:53] <delire> kuroishinzoo: if you cannot read this important system file, use 'sudo cat /etc/fstab'
[01:53] <selinium> moparfan90, alien limewire.rpm
[01:53] <nalioth> Linner: as long as windows is on first, and you have free space, that's all you need to have
[01:54] <Gotardoooooooooo> @find metallica
[01:54] <Linner> nalioth: when i was in here about an hour ago, Seveas told me that there were some serious updating issues.
[01:54] <nalioth> moparfan90: you can use gtk-gnutella and stay out of the world of java pain
[01:54] <delire> kuroishinzoo: then copy those contents into the pastebin.
[01:54] <cafuego_> dooglus: Ah, in breezy there is. Virtual package that provides a kernel. Nah, you cna wipe it if you have a non-generic kernel.
[01:54] <dooglus> cafuego_: I think the 'linux' package is new for breezy.
[01:54] <Linner> nalioth: ok... i have plenty of space.. .that's no problem
[01:54] <kuroishinzoo> copy paste kuroishinzoo send :)
[01:54] <dooglus> I got my kernel from 'linux-image' I think
[01:54] <moparfan90> just type that in alien limewire.rpm?
[01:54] <nalioth> Linner: yes there are. the new-hardware-demon is biting you (and us)
[01:54] <cafuego_> Gotardoooooooooo: We don't have a warez bot, the actiual bot has '!' as cmd char, and metallica suck.
[01:55] <nalioth> moparfan90: java is evil, there are altervatives
[01:55] <Linner> I'm installing all my drivers now for windoze... I was also told nalioth that I should install mepis first since i can get it up and running and then install over it is that true?
[01:55] <Maikeru> let's say I had a text file in openoffice and somehow it was overwritten
[01:55] <Maikeru> is there a way to recover the contents? ;(
[01:55] <Linner> nalioth: yeah... i see i'm certainly not the only one with a stagnant breeze
[01:55] <Linner> :)
[01:55] <moparfan90> i know i dont like java to much but i like limewire
[01:55] <Maikeru> (it took me forever to write that
[01:55] <selinium> moparfan90, alien /route/to/limewire.rpm
[01:55] <moparfan90> ok
[01:55] <nalioth> Linner: you can do that. no guarantees that ubuntu will run any better afterward
[01:55] <selinium> moparfan90, download it first
[01:55] <cafuego_> Maikeru: Not likely. Does OOo have a 'revert' option?
[01:55] <Maikeru> and now I'll have to redo it if I can't recover
[01:55] <Linner> nalioth: would you do it?
[01:55] <Maikeru> ooh...good idea
[01:56] <nalioth> Linner: if it's breezy you want, i'd wait a few days
[01:56] <dooglus> Maikeru: try "control z".  It does "undo"
[01:56] <funkyHat> moparfan90, alternatively, you can use gtk-guntella, which uses the same network
[01:56] <nalioth> Linner: it finals oct 13
[01:56] <bur[n] er> are there any hardware purchases I can make that support ubuntu moreso than others?  say... Dell over HP?  or Distributor X has ubuntu preinstalled??
[01:56] <Maikeru> no I saved the contents
[01:56] <Maikeru> and closed
[01:56] <Maikeru> apparantly
[01:56] <Linner> nalioth: i'm not sure why breezy would be better than 5.02 at this point
[01:56] <delire> bur[n] er: HP sells Ubuntu preinstalled on their laptops.
[01:56] <Linner> i can't get anything on there that's related to Ubuntu!
[01:56] <dooglus> Maikeru: you'll probably need to restore from backup then
[01:56] <bur[n] er> delire: in the US?
[01:56] <Maikeru> ...
[01:56] <delire> bur[n] er: i'm not sure.
[01:56] <Maikeru> no backup
[01:56] <cafuego_> bur[n] er: I believe HP have a box with ubuntu on it. Probably only in the US, though.
[01:56] <Linner> delire: not on mine they didn't... and i just got mine a few weeks ago
[01:56] <Maikeru> it was a set of notes I did for class
[01:57] <Maikeru> two sections
[01:57] <delire> Linner: oh
[01:57] <Linner> delire: must be something REALLY new
[01:57] <cafuego_> Linner: it has nicer features you could use to make windoze users jealous ;-)
[01:57] <nalioth> Linner: breezy is more up-to-date on its hardware recognition things
[01:57] <enntee> hp doesn't offer it in the US, only South Africa right now
[01:57] <bur[n] er> I heard France has a dell laptop with ubuntu, but that doens' help me here ;)
[01:57] <cafuego_> Nah, also you don't want dell.
[01:57] <nalioth> bur[n] er: you can order a Dell here in the US
[01:57] <bur[n] er> nalioth: with ubuntu?
[01:57] <Linner> nalioth: so... ok... this might be a fix for my issues from this morning nalioth?
[01:57] <kuroishinzoo> root@RONJA:/home/kuroishinzoo# sudo cat /etc/fstab
[01:57] <kuroishinzoo> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[01:57] <kuroishinzoo> #
[01:57] <kuroishinzoo> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[01:57] <kuroishinzoo> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[01:57] <nalioth> bur[n] er: with mandriva
[01:57] <kuroishinzoo> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[01:57] <kuroishinzoo> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[01:58] <enntee> if HP offered ubuntu laptops in north america, i'd buy one immediately... finding a laptop i know is going to work with ubuntu is a PITA
[01:58] <kuroishinzoo> /dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:58] <cafuego_> !paste
[01:58] <ubotu> [paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:58] <bur[n] er> awww... that's not as cool ;)
[01:58] <moparfan90> how do i install a .deb file?
[01:58] <Linner> wow...
[01:58] <test34> I though dell had only intel+windows
[01:58] <bur[n] er> thansk for the tip though nalioth
[01:58] <Linner> that wasn't good
[01:58] <nalioth> kuroishinzoo: no pasting in here
[01:58] <bur[n] er> dell servers have redhat, but no ubuntu afaik
[01:58] <bimberi> moparfan90: sudo dpkg -i <debfile>
[01:58] <enntee> moparfan90: dpkg -i <file>
[01:58] <delire> kuroishinzoo: careful with those floods..
[01:58] <moparfan90> ok thanks
[01:58] <cafuego_> enntee: Check www.linux-laptop.net.  Do you have a budget? What sort of quality are you after?
[01:58] <delire> kuroishinzoo: just paste those contents to the pastebin. i see you haven't pasted that yet.
[01:59] <cafuego_> enntee: I think I heard talk about eMachines and an amd64 laptop.
[01:59] <nalioth> bur[n] er: here's the trick: get the modules source  code from the mandriva and compile them for ubuntu onthe same hardware
[01:59] <enntee> cafuego: $900 CDN
[01:59] <cafuego_> eh, bur[n] ereven
[01:59] <bur[n] er> heh... it's not making it work that's a pain... it's that I want to push my dollars I'd spend anyway toward ubuntu ;)
[01:59] <Linner> nalioth: have you used suse with it?
[01:59] <cafuego_> enntee: *nod* How much is an iBook 12" and a 802.11b USB dongle? :-)
[01:59] <test34> how do you edit the System menu ?
[01:59] <moparfan90> whats the java package called that limewire needs?
[02:00] <nalioth> kuroishinzoo: pastebin, my friend
[02:00] <enntee> cafuego: i'd really like an ibook :) do the wi-fi cards in them not work in ubuntu?
[02:00] <cafuego_> enntee: The airport extreme ones don't :-(
[02:00] <delire> enntee: that particular broadcom doesn't.
[02:00] <cafuego_> enntee: The older ones with normal airport work fine.
[02:01] <delire> enntee: anyway, get a recent Asus. they make the Apple iBooks.
[02:01] <enntee> cafuego: ack. OSX is a nice enough OS anyway.. bud im really dependent on virtual desktops
[02:01] <kuroishinzoo> okey
[02:01] <Linner> nalioth: have you used suse?
[02:01] <nalioth> moparfan90: use gtk-gnutella and save yourself some pain
[02:01] <cafuego_> enntee: OSX has freeware desktop pagers
[02:01] <dooglus> does limewire still bundle spyware?
[02:01] <moparfan90> i like limewire etter tho
[02:01] <cafuego_> enntee: Actually, Mac Minis are pretty portable ;-)
[02:01] <enntee> cafuego: yeah, but i'd miss banshee, and muine, and evolution, etc.
[02:01] <gpm> hi guys. i just installed gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse but i can't play AVI or WMV files in totem...they work fine in mplayer...any clues?
[02:01] <nalioth> Linner: i've used rh (arrgh), mepis, libranet, and ubuntu
[02:01] <Linner> does anyone know the difference between opensuse and suse 9.3
[02:01] <moparfan90> does anyone know the java package that limewire needs?
[02:02] <Linner> nalioth: did you like mepis?
[02:02] <nalioth> moparfan90: /msg ubotu java
[02:02] <cafuego_> !tell moparfan90 -about java
[02:02] <bimberi> moparfan90: you would need a JRE package - /msg ubotu java
[02:02] <nalioth> Linner: i liked it at the time, but imho, it's time has passed
[02:02] <jsubl2> gpm read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:02] <Linner> ok... it didn't seem that great to me when I got it running
[02:02] <Linner> nalioth: good ... i like to hear expert opinions on this stuff
[02:02] <Linner> :)
[02:03] <cafuego_> enntee: In pc-land, I think intel ipw2100 wifi all works fine under linux now, ipw2200 mostly works. (But don't quote me on that)
[02:03] <gpm> jsubl2: should it make a difference that i'm using breezy? the page says it's for hoary users.
[02:03] <nalioth> gpm: the instructions are the same
[02:03] <bimberi> enntee: my ipw2100 works fine :)
[02:04] <enntee> cafuego: yeah, i'm just in the shopping phase right now. there's some nice, cheap laptops.. but i'm worried i'm gonna find a sound card that doesn't work or something
[02:04] <cafuego_> enntee: The only other thing that may not work would be the winmkdeom.
[02:04] <cafuego_> winmodem
[02:04] <gpm> nalioth: should i still use hoary-extras though i am running breezy? or is there a breezy-extras somewhere?
[02:04] <delire> cafuego_ enntee ipw2200 works wonderfully here..
[02:04] <cafuego_> it's so evil, i can't even spell it ;-)
[02:04] <Linner> i'm downloading suse now since the link you guys posted before http://www.linux-laptop.net/ showed a successful install wtih suse
[02:04] <DewDude> enntee: most sound cards found in laptops will work
[02:04] <Linner> with something similar to my laptop
[02:04] <moparfan90> theres no jre package
[02:04] <nalioth> gpm: i'd wait on extras for a while
[02:04] <dooglus> does anyone here know and understand 'debfoster'?
[02:04] <delire> enntee: you can't go past recent IBM thinkpads for Linux compatibility. but they are expensive.
[02:05] <gpm> nalioth: so...just add multiverse/universe?
[02:05] <nalioth> Linner: are you getting an install image or the 'live-cd'?
[02:05] <enntee> delire: yeah, i had considered those as well
[02:05] <Linner> install image
[02:05] <dooglus> I'm been trying to understand it.  I asks me if I want to keep "dia-common", but that's not an orphan since it's a dependancy of dia-gnome, which is installed.
[02:05] <battlecat> I have a Debian Sarge DVD can I use the DEB packages from the DVD with Ubuntu?
[02:05] <jsubl2> suse is such a monster download
[02:05] <delire> enntee: these folk sell good machines without the windows tax if you ask: http://agearnotebooks.com/
[02:05] <cafuego_> dooglus: debfoster will list installed apckages (with their depends) and ask if you wantto keep them. Hit 'y' to keep, hit 'p' to purge the package AND the depends. Hit 'x' to process them when yiou get bored.
[02:05] <nalioth> Linner: you might try fedora-core-4 (if you're not using ubuntu)
[02:05] <mjr> battlecat, not recommended
[02:05] <enntee> delire: thanks for the tip, i'll check them out
[02:05] <battlecat> why is that?
[02:05] <dooglus> cafuego_: why is it asking my about 'dia-common'?
[02:05] <nalioth> hi battlecat
[02:05] <Linner> holy crap ya'll... i'm already half way finished downloading it - the dvd iso
[02:06] <Linner> this fios stuff works well!
[02:06] <battlecat> Hey
[02:06] <battlecat> N
[02:06] <nalioth> battlecat: b/c of version conflicts
[02:06] <delire> enntee: i researched for a couple of months. their Asus line is made by Asustek, which make the Apple PB's and iBooks. the little 12" looks similar to an ibook in the flesh.
[02:06] <nalioth> battlecat: if you have a woody cd, that'd be great
[02:06] <cafuego_> dooglus: It's installed, it'll ask about it. Just hit 'n' if you think you need to keep it.
[02:06] <Linner> nalioth: why did you ask?
[02:06] <Linner> boxerboy29: wb :)
[02:06] <dooglus> cafuego_: it only asks about 'orphans', right?
[02:06] <battlecat> No just the sarge DVD that came with the linux magazine
[02:06] <delire> that said the 17" PB's are nothing to be proud of. awful machines.
[02:06] <boxerboy29> linner:ty:)
[02:06] <cafuego_> dooglus: No, that's deborphan.
[02:06] <battlecat> 17" Peanut butters?
[02:07] <nalioth> battlecat: sarge is too new, you'd have version conflicts with ubuntu
[02:07] <delire> battlecat: yes
[02:07] <boxerboy29> mplayer still dont work :(
[02:07] <Linner> :)
[02:07] <cafuego_> enntee: Oh, and keep an eye on what gfx chip you'd get. Some work better then others.
[02:07] <Linner> STILL???
[02:07] <Linner> oh gosh!
[02:07] <boxerboy29> still
[02:07] <battlecat> OK Nale
[02:07] <cafuego_> enntee: Especially in 3d land
[02:07] <enntee> cafuego: yeah, gotta be nvidia for me :)
[02:07] <boxerboy29> i even downloaded lame
[02:07] <battlecat> I figured that Ubuntu would be newer
[02:07] <nalioth> Linner: whom are you addressing?
[02:07] <Linner> nalioth: what other multimedia player do you recommend besides mplayer?
[02:07] <enntee> Linner: totem!
[02:07] <boxerboy29> searched for midi players downloaded them still nothing
[02:07] <dooglus> cafuego_: debfoster doesn't ask me about anything that came pre-installed - because none of that stuff is orphaned.  it just asks if I want to keep 'ubuntu-base' and 'ubuntu-desktop' - if I say yes to those, it knows it has to keep the rest.
[02:07] <Linner> nalioth: you at first... you asked me if I was downloading a live cd or an image
[02:08] <nalioth> battlecat: yes it is, but there are some shared pkgs of the same vintage
[02:08] <Linner> boxerboy29: enntee recommends totem
[02:08] <P229> how do you install local debs? apt-get install package.deb doesn't work
[02:08] <Linner> have you tried others, boxerboy29?
[02:08] <bimberi> P229: sudo dpkg -i <debfile>
[02:08] <boxerboy29> does totem play midi files?
[02:08] <cafuego_> dooglus: Indeed. So you could remove those (they're just meta-packages) and then pick the rest out by re-running it.
[02:08] <delire> enntee: a lovely little machine. i saw it recently in the flesh: http://store.agearnotebooks.com/asuss5nphoto.html
[02:08] <battlecat> ok what is the worst that can happen?
[02:08] <dooglus> cafuego_: from the debfoster man page: "if debfoster notices that a package that used to be a dependency is now an orphan, it will ask you what to do with it" - note, "orphan"
[02:08] <selinium> boxerboy29, nope, try timidity
[02:08] <delire> enntee: my girlfriend has a model down from it, i have the larger brother. great laptops.
[02:08] <nalioth> battlecat: you can be stuck with a non-upgradeable system
[02:08] <boxerboy29> i have it already
[02:09] <battlecat> ewww
[02:09] <boxerboy29> still doesnt play
[02:09] <lui> help, help, help!, I was upgrading to breezy. After the upgrade I restart the system and now the X doesn't find my display manager neither the nvidia drivers, what can I do please?
[02:09] <enntee> delire: it does look pretty slick
[02:09] <cafuego_> dooglus: Yes, it ALSO processes non-orphioned packages, though. Whereas 'deborphan' does not. (it only lists orphans)
[02:09] <boxerboy29> lui: when did you last do it?
[02:09] <dooglus> cafuego_: but shouldn't ask about them.
[02:09] <lui> right now
[02:09] <delire> enntee: given the iBook will be an intel machine within 18 months, there will be little difference between this and an iBook.
[02:09] <lui> boxerboy29, right now
[02:09] <P229> bimberi: thank you (coming over from fedora here)
[02:10] <boxerboy29> lui: in terminal or synaptic?
[02:10] <bimberi> P229: np :)
[02:10] <lui> boxerboy29, synaptic
[02:10] <kuroishinzoo> delire: do you understad swedish??
[02:10] <battlecat> what happens when you log in and type startx but do not have gnome KDE or any other WM installed?
[02:10] <boxerboy29> open terminal and try sudo apt-get install upgrade
[02:10] <lui> boxerboy29, now I'm running the live cd to talk here
[02:10] <enntee> delire: yeah... in all honesty, i'll probably just end up buying an ibook... i'm not much of a tinkerer these days
[02:10] <enntee> i just like stuff to work without much effort
[02:10] <delire> kuroishinzoo: no, though i lived there for a while.
[02:11] <dooglus> I think maybe I don't understand what "recommends" means in .deb files
[02:11] <delire> enntee: if you can actually stand OSX then sure ;)
[02:11] <delire> enntee: i can't :)
[02:11] <boxerboy29> lui: you might want to reconfig your xorg file
[02:11] <enntee> delire: i like osx, i'm a sucker for that bright friendly bubbly crap
[02:11] <Linner> boxerboy29: sound familiar???
[02:11] <Linner> looks like everyone is having this proble
[02:11] <Linner> problem
[02:11] <boxerboy29> linner all too
[02:11] <delire> enntee: i was glad to get rid of it. so bloody slow and awful.
[02:11] <Linner> :(
[02:12] <enntee> delire: definitely a bit slow =\
[02:12] <lui> boxerboy29, ok, I'll try
[02:12] <delire> enntee: hmm
[02:12] <IcE-bOy> hi
[02:12] <Linner> nalioth told me that i should wait a few days before installing it
[02:12] <IcE-bOy> anybody has problemas with breezy ?
[02:12] <Linner> hey IcE-bOy
[02:12] <Linner> yes
[02:12] <Linner> most everyone
[02:12] <enntee> delire: but, i definitely prefer it over windows.
[02:12] <IcE-bOy> my screen show down when ..... i stop write
[02:12] <IcE-bOy> or i stop move de mouse
[02:12] <enntee> delire: and at some point i'm sure i'll be able to install ubuntu on it
[02:12] <IcE-bOy> onlye one secon dalay for screen turn off
[02:12] <Linner> they're having serious problem with the updating mechanism
[02:12] <lui> boxerboy29, what should I put in replace of the nvidia drivers in xorg file?
[02:12] <misterdiff> well here we go. my mother's winblows machine just finally took a crap. obviously i need to install something on it now but i don't know what. i'd install ubuntu which is what i use and for me its easy, but i know how she is and she won't understand the synaptic installer at all for installing additional software
[02:13] <misterdiff> any sugestions?
[02:13] <boxerboy29> lui: thats a bad word for me
[02:13] <delire> enntee: sure..  a weird time to buy an ibook though.
[02:13] <kuroishinzoo> okey.. cause i have a little problem with eng..
[02:13] <Linner> boxerboy29: what, xorg? :)
[02:13] <kuroishinzoo> cant find the words i want all the time.. :(
[02:13] <boxerboy29> lui: ive seen too many people have problems with those drivers
[02:13] <delire> kuroishinzoo: hehe no problem.
[02:13] <kuroishinzoo> and my gramar sucks
[02:13] <lui> boxerboy29, maybe vesa could work?
[02:13] <boxerboy29> linner the nvidia drivers
[02:14] <Linner> boxerboy29: i know... i was kidding... trying to make you smile :)
[02:14] <boxerboy29> lol :)
[02:14] <kuroishinzoo> hall r det nn hr som frstr mig??
[02:14] <Linner> english please :)
[02:14] <delire> kuroishinzoo: i work in scandinavia currently but barely learnt to say more than tjena and hej hej ;)
[02:14] <boxerboy29> lui: go to www.linuxquestions.org and look for the fixes on those drivers
[02:14] <kuroishinzoo> :D
[02:15] <delire> Linner: he's asking if anyone speaks his language..
[02:15] <lui> boxerboy29, ok, thanks, bye :)
[02:15] <gpm> hi, so what's the best way to install w32codecs on breezy?
[02:15] <kuroishinzoo> thats fun..
[02:15] <boxerboy29> yw
[02:15] <booger> hey does anyone know anything about k3b burning app
[02:15] <enntee> cafuego: thanks for the ugidd tip... this will make my life infintely easier
[02:15] <moparfan90> hello i hae jre java thing   and its a .bin file how do i install that?
[02:15] <boxerboy29> gpm: same problem here but i heard lame is very good
[02:15] <Linner> booger: a little ... but i decided to uninstall it and get ....something else
[02:15] <gpm> boxerboy29: no, i need something to play a .rm (real media) file...
[02:15] <Linner> let me go look what i got... what are you trying to do with it bogg
[02:15] <IcemanV9> moparfan90: follow the instruction :) it's fairly easy
[02:16] <booger> like what?
[02:16] <boxerboy29> linner: something else?
[02:16] <Linner> booger... what are you trying to do with it
[02:16] <delire> kuroishinzoo: i see your post on the website. i think i might be able to help here.
[02:16] <kuroishinzoo> ive got to go now..
[02:16] <Linner> boxerboy29: yeah i have to go look at my other machine
[02:16] <Linner> something baker
[02:16] <boxerboy29> yeah i need something to play midi files
[02:16] <moparfan90> icemanv9, there are no istructions
[02:16] <kuroishinzoo> okey..
[02:16] <zoe> hey, I totally need help, I dragged the quick launch bar from the top of my screen, (I saw the little hand icon and got curious) to the left.  It is super-obnoxious huge now, and I cannot move it back (I cannot get the hand icon).  How do I reset these settings?
[02:16] <booger> burn a DVD, I've used the same app and worked fine
[02:16] <boxerboy29> baker i know that but its a burner
[02:16] <nalioth> gpm: here is a link for w32codecs http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[02:16] <delire> kuroishinzoo: which is the disk you want to allow users to read and write to?
[02:16] <IcemanV9> moparfan90: where did you get it from?
[02:16] <rubem> hi, anyone now if mysql server is instaled with ubunto 5.04?
[02:17] <Linner> so is k3b
[02:17] <kuroishinzoo> hdc1 and hdb1 that arnt mounted.. :(
[02:17] <gpm> nalioth: just dpkg -i the .deb?
[02:17] <boxerboy29> rubem:if not by default you can get it from synaptic
[02:17] <moparfan90> sunjava    there site
[02:17] <Linner> booger: it's gnomebaker
[02:17] <kuroishinzoo> how shall i do??
[02:17] <gpm> nalioth: and wait for official breezy-extras?
[02:17] <delire> kuroishinzoo: what file system types do they have?
[02:17] <boxerboy29> linner; k3b is my fav :)
[02:17] <Linner> boxerboy29: how come?
[02:17] <Linner> to me a burner is a burner
[02:17] <boxerboy29> it has never failed me
[02:17] <booger> I get this same OPC ?? error for both apps
[02:17] <dooglus> zoe: is this GNOME, KDE, or XP?
[02:17] <moparfan90> IcemanV9, do you know how to install a .bin file?
[02:17] <zoe> GNOME,
[02:17] <Linner> as long as it does what it's supposed to....
[02:17] <kuroishinzoo> hda ext3 hdb ext3 hdc vfat
[02:18] <boxerboy29> it checks the md5 sum for u
[02:18] <nalioth> gpm: the link i sent is w32codecs packaged for breezy
[02:18] <Linner> booger: what's an OPC?
[02:18] <booger> got me
[02:18] <dooglus> zoe: where's the little hand?  do you mean the foot?
[02:18] <Linner> boxerboy29: oh okay... do you know what an OPC is?
[02:18] <boxerboy29> linner: your kidding right?
[02:18] <moparfan90> does anyone know how i can insall jre.bin i dont know how to install a .bin file????
[02:18] <Linner> boxerboy29: no.
[02:18] <IcemanV9> moparfan90: follow the instruction -> http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#selfextracting
[02:18] <zoe> the mouse pointer turned to a hand, when I moved it to the very top of the menu bar, this made me curious, so I tried dragging.
[02:18] <moparfan90> ok
[02:18] <Linner> boxerboy29:  you're far more versed in this stuff than I am
[02:18] <gpm> nalioth: ok. so i just use that until they make an official breezy-extras...right?
[02:19] <nalioth> moparfan90: hoary or breezy?
[02:19] <boxerboy29> linner im the person that cant get music to play with every damn player made for linux
[02:19] <delire> kuroishinzoo: ok..
[02:19] <dooglus> zoe: oh, it doesn't do that for me.  it stays like a white arrow.
[02:19] <booger> linner: I guess it's some error having to do with making an ISO image
[02:19] <Linner> boxerboy29: i know... and you're still more versed in this stuff than I am :)
[02:19] <zoe> the strip with my quick-launch icons is now on the left side of the screen, it is huge, and I can't move it back..
[02:19] <goose_boy> excuse me, when i install realplayer it asks me where real player has been downloaded to and it tries to run the installer
[02:19] <boxerboy29> opc?
[02:19] <goose_boy> where does it downlad the installer too?
[02:19] <moparfan90> nevermind i got it thanks
[02:19] <nalioth> gpm that will probably be in -extras
[02:19] <delire> kuroishinzoo: ok good, and what are the mount points names for those disks?
[02:19] <Linner> booger: i just made an iso last night with gnomebaker
[02:19] <Linner> booger: go through synaptic and get it
[02:19] <gpm> nalioth: ok. cool thanks
[02:20] <kuroishinzoo> You have 1 broken package on your system!
[02:20] <kuroishinzoo> Use the "Broken" filter to locate it.
[02:20] <rubem> my I by apt-get install apache+php, configured?
[02:20] <dooglus> zoe: was it like a fist?  or an open hand?
[02:20] <boxerboy29> linner: opc info here http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0112.0/0005.html
[02:20] <goose_boy> where does it download the realplayer installer too?
[02:20] <zoe> I don't remember exactly, and I can't repeat the experiment,
[02:20] <Linner> booger:  http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0112.0/0005.html go there
[02:20] <zoe> I do know that it changed from the normal arrow.
[02:21] <boxerboy29> goose_boy: how are you getting it?
[02:21] <Linner> boxerboy29: found information on your OPC question
[02:21] <kuroishinzoo> i dont know because i mounted them on the desktop with "disks"
[02:21] <booger> linner: i did I have k3b and gnomebaker both giving me the same OPC / iso making error
[02:21] <kuroishinzoo> i dont think that it worked
[02:21] <Linner> oops I mean booger boxerboy found your answer
[02:21] <delire> kuroishinzoo: use this as a ***guide***: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/370512
[02:21] <rubem> do anyone know the famous linux uml designer?
[02:21] <selinium> rubem, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:21] <boxerboy29> booger:http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0112.0/0005.html
[02:21] <dooglus> zoe: I see it now.  I can drag it back in the same way though.
[02:22] <boxerboy29> it has something to do with atpi
[02:22] <Linner> oh yuck
[02:22] <dooglus> zoe: the problem you might have is that there's no clear space in the bar to grab it by any more
[02:22] <boxerboy29> lmao
[02:22] <Linner> hehehehe
[02:22] <zoe> hmm.  I just deleted all the icons, then the panel.
[02:22] <rubem> I rememberer, Umbrelo!
[02:22] <zoe> how can I create a new one?
[02:22] <j-linux> all kinds of problems today -- just starting using Ubuntu again:  I accidentally deleted the gaim icon in the task bar and now I can't get it back.  I installed Kopete but that icon doesn't appear in the task bar either.
[02:22] <j-linux> Any ideas?
[02:22] <delire> kuroishinzoo: i have added lines for disks hdc1 and hdb1 as you described and made them read-writeable by <user>. they mount on the point /disk1 /disk2, change these to match what you have on your computer.
[02:22] <kuroishinzoo> wtf is trash-root
[02:23] <delire> kuroishinzoo: from what/where?
[02:23] <delire> j-linux: don't use gnome here. someone will be able to assist.
[02:23] <booger> linner: so is it some kind of error with the disc? DMA errors ?
[02:24] <dooglus> zoe: you still have the bottom panel, right?  close apps until you can see some clear space on it.
[02:24] <boxerboy29> j-linux: right click the bar go to add to panel and you will add a launcher add the laucher and in the command field type gaim
[02:24] <zoe> wait, figured it out, I can right click on the bottom panennns and create nenw,
[02:24] <dooglus> zoe: then right-click in some clear space and say 'new panel'
[02:24] <boxerboy29> that should work
[02:24] <Linner> booger: how many times have you tried to burn?
[02:24] <Linner> booger: and did you try to install any updates before doing it
[02:24] <zoe> we are on the same page, cool,
[02:24] <booger> about three billion
[02:24] <j-linux> boxerboy29: the launcher will bring back the "minimized" icon for gaim?
[02:24] <Linner> booger: that's a lot of discs
[02:25] <booger> it's a joke
[02:25] <Linner> booger: did you try doing the discs AFTER an update?
[02:25] <dooglus> zoe: you just helped me find another bug in breezy.  if you drag the top panel around it crashes stuff in breezy.
[02:25] <Linner> booger: no kidding :)
[02:25] <boxerboy29> j-linux you mean when you minimize something it goes away?
[02:25] <booger> yes i did
[02:25] <j-linux> Kopete's "minimized" icon doesn't show either.
[02:25] <booger> same thing
[02:25] <Linner> booger: ok... that might the problem
[02:25] <boxerboy29> j-linux gnome or kde?
[02:25] <booger> like how ?? i'm lost
[02:25] <Linner> all of us are having serious problems with our versions due to the upgrade mechanism.... nalioth can tell you more
[02:26] <Linner> nalioth: can you tell booger about the upgrade problems they've been having?
[02:26] <zoe> alright, I guess that this has been a good, constructive experience.  glad I could help :)
[02:26] <j-linux> boxerboy29:  Gaim works fine.  But when I "close" it with the x --- it doesn't minimize to tray anymore.  It closes.  Kopete keeps running, but there is no icon.
[02:26] <j-linux> I'm using Gnome, but have KDE on here also.
[02:26] <boxerboy29> lol@linner passing it off on nalioth
[02:26] <Linner> nalioth: you know far more about it then I do
[02:26] <kuroishinzoo> /home/kuroishinzoo/desktop/hdc/trash-root/hdb &hdc
[02:26] <Linner> boxerboy29: hey man, i can only do what i can do
[02:26] <Linner> :)
[02:26] <boxerboy29> lol
[02:26] <Linner> o dpm
[02:26] <Linner> oops
[02:26] <Linner> i don't know the exact problem with the updates
[02:26] <Linner> boxerboy29: do you know?
[02:27] <nalioth> who's nalioth?
[02:27] <goose_boy> hey isnt helix player the gnu version of real player?
[02:27] <boxerboy29> j-linux: if you open it back up does the lil yellow guy go back?
[02:27] <Linner> funny
[02:27] <delire> kuroishinzoo: that looks like some desktop symlink for the root 'trashcan'. nothing to worry about i would say.
[02:27] <Linner> nalioth: seriously... what exactly are the upgrade problems they're having?
[02:27] <delire> goose_boy: it's trying to be.
[02:27] <j-linux> boxerboy29:  open what?  A new gaim?
[02:27] <boxerboy29> linner: the problem with updates is kinda simple (breezy is beta) lmao :)
[02:28] <boxerboy29> yes
[02:28] <Linner>  ha ha
[02:28] <delire> goose_boy: and it kind of works.
[02:28] <Linner> I knew that part doofus :)
[02:28] <booger> linner: do I need update to breezy?
[02:28] <Linner> NO!
[02:28] <delire> booger: nO!
[02:28] <Linner> booger: not yet... wait a little while
[02:28] <boxerboy29> lmao
[02:28] <delire> Like Moths to the Flame
[02:28] <Linner> really... like a couple of days... that's what naliothtold me to do
[02:28] <boxerboy29> booger: dont upgrade for another week or so
[02:28] <kuroishinzoo> delire: got to quit.. see you.. bye
[02:28] <nalioth> Linner: new hardware is the achilles heel of linux
[02:28] <Linner> exactly
[02:28] <booger> OK
[02:29] <j-linux> boxerboy29: I can run gaim, but normally, when you "close" the window it minimizes to system tray.  In my case, after accidentally removing that little icon in the system tray it doesn't minimize anymore.   Is there a way to bring that feature back?
[02:29] <Linner> nalioth: yes, I'm seeing that first hand
[02:29] <Linner> slowly... very slowly.. .but for sure
[02:29] <nalioth> j-linux: look in the prefs
[02:29] <delire> _unsupported_ new hardware..
[02:29] <goose_boy> hey how do i get a delete option in gnome
[02:29] <boxerboy29> damn i got hung up on for laughing so hard at linner saying no:(
[02:30] <otep> hi
[02:30] <Linner> boxerboy29: are you making fun me dude? :)
[02:30] <delire> hi otep
[02:30] <Linner> otep: hello :)
[02:30] <j-linux> nalioth: I already did, and I made sure that it "minimizes to tray" -- it still doesn't though.
[02:30] <boxerboy29> linner sorry she said hold on
[02:30] <zoe> hey, while I'm here, can anyone give advice on making cxoffice produce sound?  I can get iTunes running, but get no music playback.  Alternatively, any suggestion for native linux jukeboxes would be helpful.  The 'music player' offered with gnome is a good start, but it has been super buggy.
[02:30] <j-linux> nalioth: same with Kopete
[02:30] <chase> ^this is a bit off topic^ could someone go to http://www.iduniken.com/ and let me know if you see a web page or an access error? I need someone with a diffrent IP than mine
[02:30] <Linner> boxerboy29: heheheh :)
[02:31] <boxerboy29> chatzilla users cant come in here huh?
[02:31] <j-linux> chase: it's a regular page
[02:31] <booger> what is going on with breezy?
[02:31] <delire> zoe: perhaps look at amarok, xmms, beep-media-player
[02:31] <chase> j-linux, shame, thanks thought!
[02:31] <Linner> chase: i see a plain old web page
[02:31] <moparfan90> seveas, hello can you help me? i need to install the java package limewire needs and i cant get it to work
[02:31] <funkyHat> boxerboy29, why not?
[02:31] <IcemanV9> chase: i can see the blog
[02:31] <boxerboy29> booger: breezy is still in the testing stages
[02:31] <chase> thanks guys IcemanV9 Linner
[02:31] <boxerboy29> funkyhat: registered users only i thought
[02:31] <Linner> chase looks like a wordpress home page or something
[02:31] <booger> I thought it was annonced
[02:32] <funkyHat> boxerboy29, what's wrong with being a registered user and using chatzilla?
[02:32] <Linner> booger: not yet... it will be final next month
[02:32] <delire> zoe: KDE tends to have the best desktop integrated 'jukeboxes'.
[02:32] <goose_boy> hmmm something weird just happened
[02:32] <boxerboy29> shes not a registered user
[02:32] <zoe> ok,  what I really want is the simple sorting and searching by artist and album.  I haven't seen that in xmms,
[02:32] <Linner> oh
[02:32] <goose_boy> X just restart out of the blue
[02:32] <Linner> i think i am
[02:32] <Linner> ?
[02:32] <booger> OK
[02:32] <moparfan90> how do i change the res on the my monior?
[02:32] <zoe> can I simply install KDE while GNOME is installed?
[02:32] <delire> zoe: i would look at http://amarok.kde.org/
[02:32] <Linner> they're pretty much getting everyone psyched up with the preview that's out and downloadable now
[02:32] <moparfan90> zoe, yes
[02:33] <booger> so is there cheap and easy fix for my burning problem?
[02:33] <Linner> booger: go to ubuntulinux.org and sign up for the free CD if you'd like an official copy
[02:33] <goose_boy> why would X just restart?
[02:33] <moparfan90> zoe, why do you want kde ??
[02:33] <Linner> booger: I can't answer that.  I'm very VERY new to LInux.
[02:33] <nalioth> moparfan90: breezy or hoary?
[02:33] <delire> otep: what is the graphic card?
[02:33] <boxerboy29> linner i ordered 20 of them
[02:33] <moparfan90> hoary
[02:33] <Linner> boxerboy29: yeah I asked for 10
[02:33] <boxerboy29> they changed it
[02:33] <booger> OK i'm out
[02:33] <goose_boy> does anyone know what would cause X to restart?
[02:33] <Linner> changed what?
[02:33] <Linner> good luck booger
[02:33] <goose_boy> it just does that at random times
[02:33] <Linner> oh
[02:33] <Linner> or not
[02:33] <boxerboy29> the order crap
[02:34] <Linner> really....?
[02:34] <boxerboy29> you used to type in a number you wanted
[02:34] <zoe> moparfan90, so I can try amarok,
[02:34] <moparfan90> goose_boy, yes clicking ctrl + alt +backspace
[02:34] <nalioth> moparfan90: try here http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[02:34] <delire> goose_boy: strange. sure it's not an ctrl-alt-backspace?
[02:34] <Linner> yeah that's what i did
[02:34] <boxerboy29> now they have set packages
[02:34] <ghostdog> is there a get right version for ubunto
[02:34] <Linner> oh okay
[02:34] <goose_boy> delire, yes
[02:34] <ghostdog> is there a get right version for ubunto?
[02:34] <delire> zoe: 'sudo apt-get install amarok' should do it.
[02:34] <moparfan90> zoe, i think it possilble to get that on gnome
[02:34] <nalioth> ghostdog: there are several download manglers for ubuntu
[02:34] <boxerboy29> they say if you custom order you have a chance of being turned down
[02:34] <zoe> oh,
[02:34] <delire> goose_boy: strange.. look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:35] <zoe> whatever, I already started KDE with synaptic.
[02:35] <ghostdog> what are they ?
[02:35] <delire> zoe: just a GUI way of doing the same thing ;)
[02:35] <ghostdog> nalioth: what are they ?
[02:35] <delire> zoe: eg.. synAPTic
[02:35] <boxerboy29> download helpers
[02:35] <boxerboy29> grafical interfaces that help you install programs
[02:35] <nalioth> ghostdog: search synaptic for "download manager" or some such
[02:36] <nalioth> boxerboy29: you want sourceinstall
[02:36] <j-linux> another question:  I have been having trouble getting apache to start.  I went to my /etc/inet.d/ directory and typed apache2 but got this: (13)Permission denied: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :80
[02:36] <edwin> i have installed a cdrw drive after instaling ubuntu... and it was not automatic installed. what i have to do to install it?
[02:36] <moparfan90> how do i install that .deb file
[02:36] <j-linux> I'm trying to start apache and MySQL
[02:36] <moparfan90> ?
[02:36] <boxerboy29> nalioth: sourceinstall for what?
[02:36] <bimberi> j-linux: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[02:36] <delire> j-linux: so a sudo '/etc/init.d/apache restart' gives this also?
[02:36] <boxerboy29> the midi issue?
[02:36] <delire> sorry.. apache2
[02:36] <nalioth>  boxerboy29> grafical interfaces that help you install programs  <<<<sourceinstall
[02:36] <zoe> right... what I mean is I already started installing KDE and it appears that I didn't need to.  I'm getting the impression that you guys prefer GNOME?  I've never tried KDE.  what's the difference.
[02:37] <otep> delire: nvidia fx 5200
[02:37] <boxerboy29> oh i thought that guy asked what is a download mangler
[02:37] <delire> zoe: you'll get alot of that sucks and this doesn't asking that question. ;)
[02:37] <j-linux> bimberi: that just gives me a list of usage options.
[02:37] <boxerboy29> my issue is midi files
[02:37] <ghostdog> nalioth: it just gave bittorent
[02:37] <j-linux> delire: same with that one.  I don't know why...
[02:37] <moparfan90> nalioth, how do i install that file? it a .deb??
[02:38] <nalioth> ghostdog: is there a torrent for what you need?
[02:38] <delire> zoe: they are simply two different and largely competing projects to provide a complete and coherent UNIX desktop experience.
[02:38] <nalioth> moparfan90: once you get the file, "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[02:38] <zoe> delire, right on.  I guess I won't ask then.  give it a try and form my own opinion...
[02:38] <moparfan90> ok
[02:39] <bimberi> j-linux: Strange. Paste the command, plus its output to a pastebin for us
[02:39] <edwin> alguem ai fala portugues?
[02:39] <bimberi> !pastebin
[02:39] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[02:39] <ghostdog> nalioth: no its just a huge file and our internet connection gets cut-off sometimes , so i end up downloading it again
[02:39] <boxerboy29> nalioth: you mean to install a .deb you use dpkg?
[02:39] <j-linux> bimberi: I figured it out.  I was starting in the /etc/init.d/ directory.  It only works if I type the whole path.  :S
[02:39] <nalioth> boxerboy29: if you have the deb locally, yes
[02:39] <boxerboy29> where the hell was my brain at today
[02:39] <zoe> edwin, hablo espaol, a lo mejor me entiendes.
[02:39] <delire> zoe: they both have very different approached. KDE on configurability (excellent administration tools and libqt based), Gnome simple, more mac/ NextStep derived (and with a libgtk front end)
[02:39] <nalioth> !es
[02:39] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:40] <goose_boy> looks like im not the only one with this problem
[02:40] <goose_boy> on ubuntu forums others havin the same issues
[02:40] <goose_boy> but no answers
[02:40] <zoe> !libgtk
[02:40] <edwin> quero instalar um drive de cdrw
[02:40] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, zoe
[02:40] <net_benjo> hi guys, I need help with my wireless. I'm using ipw2200 + WPA...can anybody help me?
[02:40] <delire> otep: right that card can be tweaked yes. i think nvidia even ships software to assist.
[02:41] <enntee> cafuego: i'm getting "unsupported mapping; kernel supports only 'identity' (default)" when i try to use NFS with map_daemon.. do i need to install anything else besides ugidd?
[02:41] <zoe> edwin, y no funciona?
[02:41] <enntee> cafuego_: forgot the _
[02:41] <P8ntKid> Is there a comand that can tell my all the IP's i am connected too?
[02:42] <edwin> zoe, ele tem energia... abre e fecha, mas no foi reconhecido
[02:42] <enntee> P8ntKid: netstat
[02:42] <Agrajag> netstat
[02:42] <P8ntKid> enntee: Thanks
[02:42] <tensor> how do i enable ymessenger to play wav files on alerts/events?
[02:43] <juankes> somebody knows what happen with the ubuntuguide.org site?
[02:43] <delire> zoe: GTK == 'Gimp Tool Kit' http://www.gtk.org/. QT http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt/index.html
[02:43] <goose_boy> how can i find out what my bios is?
[02:43] <goose_boy> and where i can get updates?
[02:43] <ouroboros> You all rock.
[02:43] <edwin> zoe: tem algum programa pra fazes auto reconhecimento?
[02:43] <boxerboy29> nalioth: sudo dpkg when i do that do i put everything in the name of file in there to install it?:
[02:44] <Linner> boxerboy29: he's not on
[02:44] <delire> P8ntKid: try 'sudo netstat -tupa' for rich but friendly output.
[02:44] <Linner> boxerboy29: he's having cable problems
[02:44] <IcemanV9> tensor: did you know that gaim does have Y! acct??
[02:44] <ouroboros> AMD64 + Ubuntu Hoary 64 - problems galore, 1st step is amarok, no sound, tried esd
[02:44] <boxerboy29> oh i hate it for him
[02:44] <delire> ouroboros: cheers..
[02:44] <boxerboy29> i hate cable
[02:44] <Linner> boxerboy29: yeah he's in houston
[02:44] <zoe> edwin, no hace falta un programa,
[02:44] <boxerboy29> oh no
[02:44] <Linner> i love cable...
[02:44] <matiu> My apt-get stopped working because it's trying to install x11-common which is trying to change the config files of xorg. How can I make it work again?
[02:44] <otep> delire: thanks man =)
[02:44] <tensor> IcemanV9, yep i do. i just prefer ym's familari interface :D
[02:44] <boxerboy29> thats wrong place to be
[02:44] <Linner> yeah so it's not because of the company its because of the storm
[02:45] <Linner> yeah i know
[02:45] <edwin> zoe: e como fao isso manualmente?
[02:45] <zoe> edwin, ests seguro que tienes los jumpers bien puestos?
[02:45] <Linner> i'm worried for him... but he refuses to leave
[02:45] <ouroboros> 2nd problem: tightvnc install
[02:45] <IcemanV9> tensor: ok. it's just that gaim have sound for events/alarms
[02:45] <edwin> sim... funciona no windows
[02:45] <zoe> edwin, no se puede leer ni montar un disco?
[02:45] <ouroboros> 3rd problem: ATI All-in-Wonder 128 (Rage128)
[02:45] <boxerboy29> im gonna try this install :( again
[02:45] <delire> otep: the proprietary nvidia installer also provides a way to configure all sorts of fancy stuff for this card.
[02:45] <tensor> IcemanV9, yeah, i'm starting to have 2nd thoughts :/
[02:45] <Linner> ok...
[02:45] <Linner> i'm crossing everything I can cross for you
[02:45] <boxerboy29> dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[02:45] <boxerboy29> wtf is that?
[02:46] <edwin> zoe, ele naum reconhece o hdc q seria onde esta instalado
[02:46] <IcemanV9> tensor: sorry. you might get something if you can tinker with it to get sound working.
[02:46] <delire> boxerboy29: you can't install two things in two different synaptic/apt processes at the same time.
[02:46] <ouroboros> 4th problem: libstdc++-lib6.2 stuff
[02:46] <Linner> wb nalioth
[02:46] <chx> hi. in beep-media-player the playlist's right and bottom window border is missing
[02:46] <boxerboy29> delire im not that i know of
[02:46] <ouroboros> 5th problem: cedega
[02:46] <chx> mighty strange
[02:46] <iccafe01> hi
[02:46] <delire> boxerboy29: ps ax | grep apt
[02:47] <DVSoftware> anyone playing guild wars here?
[02:47] <ouroboros> I'm bout to dump this thing and sell my AMD64
[02:47] <Zodiac> For?
[02:47] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: why?
[02:47] <bimberi> j-linux: great! (sry - got called away)
[02:47] <zoe> edwin, aparece en el BIOS el cdrw?
[02:48] <edwin> sim
[02:48] <ouroboros> because out of like 30 communities, I've gotten help from 1 person
[02:48] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: what problems with cedega you have?
[02:48] <ouroboros> I don't even want to start with Cedega
[02:48] <DVSoftware> i have amd64
[02:48] <ouroboros> those jerks didn't help me one bit
[02:48] <DVSoftware> and it's worth some pain
[02:48] <ouroboros> the hell am I paying for
[02:48] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: breezy?
[02:48] <Zodiac> Crapola?
[02:48] <ouroboros> hoary
[02:48] <thinman> after remove rmmod "module_name".  Will it come back after rebooted ?
[02:48] <kritty> Hey all.  We tried updating our laptop last night and it died ( we are using breezy.  was there an issue?
[02:48] <boxerboy29> grrrrrrrrr
[02:48] <DVSoftware> let's see hoary 64bit right?
[02:48] <ouroboros> right..
[02:49] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: what is the error message
[02:49] <DVSoftware> that you get?
[02:49] <ouroboros> oh god
[02:49] <ouroboros> where to begin?
[02:49] <nalioth> zoe: edwin in #ubuntu-es, por favor
[02:49] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: from the beginning ;)
[02:49] <edwin> ok
[02:49] <ouroboros> here's the main trouble, cedega for 64 i've given up on, I chroot 32 cedega...and slightly modified the config to ensure both dvd-rom and cdrw drives get added to chroot...
[02:50] <boxerboy29> this really shouldnt be this hard
[02:50] <matiu> So when I go "apt-get -f install" I get "x11-common trying to overwrite `/etc/X11/Xsession', which is also in package xorg-common"
[02:50] <ouroboros> neither seem to have media in them in chroot mode
[02:50] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: why do you chroot, when cedega works fine without chroot?
[02:50] <zoe> edwin, dicen que vayas a #ubunntu-es,
[02:50] <ouroboros> so cedega says "there's nothing there"
[02:50] <boxerboy29> xorg :(
[02:50] <DVSoftware> ouroboros:
[02:50] <DVSoftware> mount it
[02:50] <DVSoftware> in chroot
[02:50] <ouroboros> it doesn't work in 64
[02:50] <edwin> zoe you can speak english i understand
[02:50] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: yes it does
[02:50] <ouroboros> in fact I get a string of 4 pages worth of errors
[02:50] <matiu> How can I get around this?
[02:50] <matiu> How can I make apt-get work again?
[02:51] <edwin> i'm not very good but we can talk
[02:51] <pc22> what folder can i put prgram files?
[02:51] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: i have cedega installed in 64bit environment
[02:51] <ouroboros> cedega seemed to be happier in chroot, but my problem with it at that level is probably the chroot cdrom entries
[02:51] <zoe> edwin, alright, the drive should be recognized automatically,
[02:51] <DVSoftware> and it works fine
[02:51] <goose_boy> do you think i might need to upgrade my bios?
[02:51] <ouroboros> how? how did you get it installed?
[02:51] <DVSoftware> force-architecture
[02:51] <boxerboy29> dpkg take place of apt-get?
[02:51] <edwin> zoe, it was not... thats the problem
[02:51] <ouroboros> I followed several guides
[02:51] <IcemanV9> matiu: did you use 'sudo'?
[02:52] <zoe> edwin, how is it jumpered? are you sure that it was installed correctly?
[02:52] <edwin> when i was using madrake it was a detector in the begin
[02:52] <commrules> Need help, installed ubuntu 5.04 on my acer laptop, when ubuntu loads I get a blackscreen (but I can hear the intro sound).. someone told me to edit: sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf and where it shows display change it to VESA .. problem is I cant see anything to even edit, any suggestions?
[02:52] <mindframe> could someone please help me with my wireless card?  since i installed breezy it's unable to find my router.  the card is detected fine.  one thing i have noticed is that iwconfig shows two interfaces for the same device which is my wireless card.
[02:52] <edwin> but it didnt happen in ubuntu...
[02:52] <nalioth> boxerboy29: apt-get calls dpkg to do it's installing
[02:52] <boxerboy29> another one with the xorg :(
[02:53] <edwin> it is in master position
[02:53] <bimberi> commrules: Try <ctrl><alt>F2 and hopefully you'll get a login prompt
[02:53] <boxerboy29> i tried dpkg -i package name
[02:53] <edwin> and is alone in the cable
[02:53] <IcemanV9> commrules: ctrl+atl+f1 to get into console
[02:53] <DVSoftware> nalioth: i have fixed cedega in breezy
[02:53] <ouroboros> DVSoftware: I believe I did that force-architecture eventually
[02:53] <boxerboy29> cannot access archive: no such file
[02:53] <nalioth> DVSoftware: cool
[02:53] <DVSoftware> the problem is in nvidia drivers or xorg, im not sure
[02:53] <boxerboy29> it sitting on my damn desktop
[02:54] <nalioth> boxerboy29: you need to have the deb in your current directory
[02:54] <zoe> and 'mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0' doesn't work?
[02:54] <DVSoftware> but i have copied few files from chroot in lib32
[02:54] <boxerboy29> how do i do that?
[02:54] <zoe> edwin, and 'mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0' doesn't work?
[02:54] <Linner> ok ya'll... i have to scoot for a little while... meeting some friends for dinner... ;)
[02:54] <boxerboy29> just put that file in usr file?
[02:54] <boxerboy29> night linner
[02:54] <kritty> comrules .... is it SIS based?
[02:54] <Linner> talk with ya'll later :)
[02:54] <commrules> ctrl-alt-f2 from grub or once I load Ubuntu
[02:55] <jack-> boxerboy29: cd ~/Desktop
[02:55] <bimberi> commrules: once you load
[02:55] <IcemanV9> commrules: after you booted
[02:55] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: do you have access to tgz cedega package?
[02:55] <edwin> zoe: media not found
[02:55] <server> hello
[02:55] <Linner> hi server
[02:55] <boxerboy29> that dont work either
[02:55] <server> hello people
[02:56] <Zodiac> hallo
[02:56] <boxerboy29> no such file or directory
[02:56] <commrules> its an Acer Aspire 1694, x700 vidcard, intel
[02:56] <DVSoftware> stop helloing
[02:56] <P8ntKid> Ok, when i go to netstat, how do i end one of the connections?
[02:56] <zoe> edwin, the drive worked in Mandrake?
[02:56] <ouroboros> DVSoftware yes my friend gave me cedega_4.4-1.i386.tar.gz eventually, in high hopes
[02:56] <funkyHat> DVSoftware, hello :)
[02:56] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: have you tried to unpack it in /
[02:56] <DVSoftware> ?
[02:56] <ouroboros> ?
[02:57] <ouroboros> hmm
[02:57] <ouroboros> I believe I've done this
[02:57] <DVSoftware> well let's play with chroot then
[02:57] <ouroboros> but i386...that should be for chroot, no?
[02:57] <DVSoftware> nope
[02:57] <ouroboros> ohhh
[02:57] <mindframe> anyone know how to delete a device shown by iwconfig?
[02:57] <DVSoftware> just unpack it to your /
[02:57] <ouroboros> damn this hybrid disaster
[02:57] <ouroboros> very well
[02:58] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: and for chroot you have to mount cdrom manually
[02:58] <P8ntKid> Ok, when i go to netstat, how do i end one of the connections?
[02:58] <DVSoftware> mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom
[02:58] <thinman> help please: after remove rmmod "module_name".  Will it come back after rebooted ?
[02:58] <edwin> zoe, wait looks like it is working
[02:58] <DVSoftware> thinman: yes
[02:58] <bimberi> thinman: it it's normally loaded at boot, yes
[02:59] <thinman> what should i do to have it very fast on reboot ?
[02:59] <IcemanV9> mindframe: ???   if you want to show one device, then type 'iwconfig ath0' (or whatever your device is)
[02:59] <goose_boy> can i make a dos boot disk in linux?
[03:00] <mindframe> IcemanV9, i want to delete one of them - its messing things up.  (iwconfig shows eth1 and eth2 for the same wireless card)
[03:00] <DVSoftware> goose_boy: if you have image file - yes
[03:00] <bimberi> thinman: what do you mean "very fast"?
[03:00] <commrules> newb question: when i "ls" all I see is Desktop, and when i type sudo /etc/x11/xorg.conf it doesnt find it, what subdirectory do i need to be in to find xorg.conf
[03:00] <edwin> zoe, thaks it starting working after mount... it recognize it
[03:00] <IcemanV9> mindframe: ahh. ok. sudo ifconfig ethx down
[03:01] <DVSoftware> commrules: you can't execute config file
[03:01] <mindframe> IcemanV9, yeah but eth2 isnt showing up w/ ifconfig
[03:01] <zoe> edwin, glad to hear.
[03:01] <karen> I plugged in a Kodak EasyShare cx7530 - I get the "Import phots from camera?" dialog, but then when I say "yes!" i get "unknown model"
[03:01] <DVSoftware> do sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:01] <karen> is there a place to get more drivers?
[03:01] <mindframe> IcemanV9, that didnt remove it from iwconfig anyway :(
[03:01] <boxerboy29> karen: did you set it up in CUPS?
[03:02] <karen> boxerboy29, set up the camera?
[03:02] <DVSoftware> karen: try with gphoto2, but i think it's preety same thing
[03:02] <boxerboy29> karen: oh sorry i thought you ment the printer
[03:02] <DVSoftware> i'll repeat myself
[03:02] <vader1102> is anyone here using an iriver 5gb mp3?
[03:02] <DVSoftware> anyone plays guild wars here?
[03:02] <IcemanV9> mindframe: hmm. it should. which one is the right one eth1 or eth2?
[03:03] <mindframe> IcemanV9, eth1 is what i was using before installing breezy.  its also the one i have configured in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:03] <P8ntKid> Ok, when i go to netstat, how do i end one of the connections?
[03:03] <goose_boy> DVSoftware, how do i do it?
[03:03] <DVSoftware> goose_boy: man dd
[03:04] <karen> also, any idea why lsusb doesn't show the camera?
[03:04] <commrules> DvSoftware: changed the Driver "ati" to Driver "vesa" (which is what I was told to do), how do I save&quit from this editor?
[03:04] <IcemanV9> mindframe: breezy? i am not there yet. heard it was much improved over hoary. however, you should be using network manager to take care of it.
[03:04] <DVSoftware> ctrl+x
[03:04] <DVSoftware> and answer y
[03:04] <DVSoftware> and enter
[03:05] <IcemanV9> mindframe: that's what i have learned from others (who using breezy)
[03:05] <ouroboros> DVSoftware: I owe you a bottle
[03:05] <mindframe> IcemanV9, ive tried that :(
[03:05] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: :D
[03:05] <ouroboros> well that's one down
[03:06] <goose_boy> DVSoftware, wgat software do i use to put a floppy image on a disk?
[03:06] <mindframe> IcemanV9, i wish i knew why the hell it was even detecting eth2
[03:06] <DVSoftware> goose_boy: dd
[03:06] <goose_boy> shit dd?
[03:06] <vader1102> bob2, my friend has an Iriver 5 gb MP3 player and from what I have read, they say that it should be mounted as a usb hard drive but it isn't any ideas?
[03:06] <goose_boy> i have no idea how to use dd
[03:06] <Agrajag> man dd
[03:06] <jmont> goose_boy, dd if=image_file of=/mnt/floppy
[03:06] <DVSoftware> goose_boy: read man page
[03:06] <DVSoftware> man dd
[03:07] <IcemanV9> mindframe: hmm. wished i could help ya more.
[03:07] <dbzdeath> vader1102: when it is plugged in it should be detected as a scsi device
[03:07] <vader1102> dbzdeath, thank you
[03:07] <delire> goose_boy: if == "in file", of == "out file"
[03:07] <DVSoftware> when i plug in
[03:07] <DVSoftware> usb hard drive
[03:07] <dbzdeath> vader1102: if you need anymore help just ask :)
[03:07] <DVSoftware> icon shows on desktop
[03:08] <vader1102> dbzdeath, thanx ;-)
[03:08] <ColonelKernel> is it possible to do a net-install of debian, then switch the repos to ubuntu and install gnome,x,etc?
[03:09] <mindframe> ColonelKernel, that'd be cool.
[03:09] <markg24> ColonelKernel -- I tried that with warty and didn't have much success ...
[03:09] <ouroboros> DVSoftware: big question, installing patches for games, etc?
[03:09] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: it depends
[03:09] <DVSoftware> for example patching wow is a bit tricky
[03:09] <ColonelKernel> im not particularly stoked on the startup process of Ubuntu since it doesnt allow for the use of vanilla kernels 2.6.13+, it needs devfs+tmpfs support for my setup to work properly
[03:09] <ouroboros> DVSoftware: hmm, well I'm testing Ultima 9 for s+g's
[03:09] <DVSoftware> but others should do fine
[03:10] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: i have problem with guild wars
[03:10] <anthony> does any one want to help set up a helpless persons wireless card
[03:10] <ColonelKernel> ubuntu IS the most up-to-date distro ive found though, aside from the kernel
[03:10] <DVSoftware> i've bought it today
[03:10] <DVSoftware> and i can't play it
[03:10] <Gobbla> umm my sound in xmms just got really f-d up
[03:10] <ouroboros> DVSoftware: There's a 1.19 patch for it - you would just cedega the patch file?
[03:10] <markg24> anthony - what kind of wireless?
[03:10] <Gobbla> what can i do about this? :/
[03:10] <DVSoftware> because of stupid recent patch that breaks cedega support
[03:10] <ColonelKernel> esp w breezy comig out
[03:10] <P8ntKid> Ok, when i go to netstat, how do i end one of the connections?
[03:10] <anthony> what do you mean by that
[03:10] <karen> so I installed gphoto2 - shouldn't it have added a menu item for the app?
[03:10] <anthony> wireless g?
[03:11] <DVSoftware> ouroboros: yep
[03:11] <ouroboros> sweet
[03:11] <markg24> anthony -- chipset?
[03:11] <anthony> broadcom
[03:11] <DVSoftware> karen: gphoto2 is console app
[03:11] <anthony> i have the driver and everything
[03:11] <markg24> ok - what version of ubuntu?
[03:11] <MarcN> I'm moving a bunch of photos around and nautilus is very crashy & hangy.  Anyone else seeing that? (breezy)
[03:12] <anthony> 5.04
[03:12] <markg24> MarcN -- nautilus has left me hangin' recently too ...
[03:12] <DVSoftware> w00t
[03:12] <markg24> anthony -- ok
[03:12] <markg24> anthony - have you installed ndiswrapper-utils?
[03:12] <DVSoftware> anthony: can you drop me url to download broadcom wireless driver?
[03:12] <goose_boy> damn how do i mount a preformated floppy ?
[03:12] <MarcN> markg24: man, i've been using nautilus since the Eazel days and it always has been problamatic.
[03:12] <vader1102> dbzdeath, nope it doesn't see a scsi device
[03:12] <DVSoftware> goose_boy: i think that output should be /dev/fd
[03:12] <markg24> MarcN -- no kidding!!
[03:12] <karen> DVSoftware, ah.   this page says the cx7530 is supported - do I just need to find a more recient ver? http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=10521&max_rows=25&style=nested&viewmonth=200506
[03:13] <anthony> i just took it off of a windows cd, it is the .inf file right
[03:13] <DVSoftware> maybe
[03:13] <markg24> anthony - you have to use ndiswrapper
[03:13] <delire> karen: if you install gphoto2 it will be resourced by GUI camera picture browser apps like gtkam and digikam
[03:13] <anthony> i know
[03:13] <DVSoftware> anthony: i don't have win cd handy
[03:13] <markg24> ok -- so you did ndiswrapper -i xxxx.inf
[03:13] <goose_boy> when i do mount /media/floppy it says i have to specify a file type
[03:13] <DVSoftware> can you drop me an email ?
[03:13] <dbzdeath> vader1102: hmmm type.... dmesg  and see what it says after you have plugged it in with comparison to before
[03:13] <DVSoftware> with driver attached?
[03:13] <vader1102> ok
[03:13] <karen> delire, thats what I was hoping for - thanks
[03:14] <delire> karen: you won't need to use the console..
[03:14] <markg24> anthony - and then you did ndiswrapper -m
[03:14] <anthony> yeah and when i try to do the ndiswrapper -m it says that there is already an alias created
[03:14] <vader1102> I am relaying as you put it in
[03:14] <leopard>  usb 1-1.2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 10
[03:14] <markg24> ok -- if you type iwconfig what does it list?
[03:15] <jorock> does anyone have ati drivers working in breezy?
[03:15] <goose_boy> ?
[03:15] <markg24> anthony -- I've found with ndiswrapper that sometimes it will all 'install' but if it doesn't list the essid properly then it's not working right
[03:15] <goose_boy> what file system should i specify?
[03:15] <DVSoftware> goose_boy: do not mount it
[03:15] <MarcN> jorock: I have an ati mobility rage something in this laptop.  breezey okay now that udev is working better.
[03:15] <DVSoftware> write image to /dev/fd
[03:15] <anthony> markg24 lo        no wireless extensions.
[03:16] <anthony> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[03:16] <anthony> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[03:16] <goose_boy> DVSoftware, i have have two regular files i have to put on a different floppy
[03:16] <ColonelKernel> wait a minute
[03:16] <markg24> anthony -- did you modprobe ndiswrapper?
[03:16] <anthony> when i try to do that it gives me a error message
[03:16] <ColonelKernel> does hoary use devfs and breezy use udev?
[03:16] <vader1102> dbzdeath,  it is in #flood inder the nick ksn
[03:16] <anthony> one sec i will send it to you
[03:16] <markg24> what error message?
[03:16] <delire> karen: when you installed gphoto2 you probably automatically installed 'libgphoto2-2' which contains a very large number of 'drivers' for dealing with many different cameras. ensure you have this, or a more recent version onboard.
[03:16] <DVSoftware> goose_boy: than use -t vfat i think
[03:16] <dbzdeath> say it again in flood vader1102 please
[03:16] <anthony> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:17] <vader1102> ok
[03:17] <leopard> dbzdeath: vader was relaying the message for me. The new info is:  usb 1-1.2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 10
[03:17] <vader1102> dbzdeath, there ya go
[03:17] <dbzdeath> well it was detected
[03:18] <commrules> Finaly got ubunto to load, trying to install wireless & ethernet, when I installed ubuntu I did it with: nolapic apci=off , durring install it gave me a warning that my ethernet was disabled by me and therefore couldnt autodetect my wirless, I tried activating both ethernet & wireless to active, but i still have no internet
[03:18] <dbzdeath> vader1102: sudo fdisk -l
[03:18] <dbzdeath> see if it comes up anywhere
[03:18] <leopard> Yeah, just it seems to have no idea what the device is unforunately/
[03:18] <dbzdeath> leopard: yeah i was just thinking that...
[03:18] <vader1102> dbzdeath, talk to leopard he is the one I was talking about
[03:18] <anthony> markg24 any suggestions
[03:19] <dbzdeath> leopard: hmmm what device is it?
[03:19] <pc22> !tell pc22 about cups
[03:19] <leopard> dbzdeath: just my normal partitions. It's an iRiver H10 with the latest firmware update.
[03:19] <pc22> !tell pc22 about samba
[03:19] <karen> delire, how do I tell if the gphoto2 I installed from Synaptic has the cx7530 driver?
[03:19] <dbzdeath> hopefully just need to load the module
[03:19] <dbzdeath> leopard: ok h10... give me a sec
[03:19] <ColonelKernel> Anyone? does hoary use devfs and breezy use Udev and thats why vanilla 2.6.13+ kernels act fecally when I try them out?
[03:19] <boman_> !tell boman about samba
[03:20] <vader1102> !botsnack
[03:20] <ubotu> thanks vader1102 :)
[03:20] <leopard> dbzdeath: thanks.
[03:20] <delire> karen: check here http://www.gphoto.org/news/
[03:20] <DVSoftware> good nite ppl
[03:20] <dooglus> in bash, when I'm typing a command name, I can use TAB to complete it.  gnome-ter<TAB> expands to gnome-terminal.  but if I put "sudo" first, I can't get TAB to complete the sudo command.  is there a way?
[03:20] <delire> DVSoftware: night
[03:21] <dooglus> I want "sudo gnome-ter<TAB>" to expand to "sudo gnome-terminal"
[03:21] <karen> delire, cx7530 is listed on sf.net, but I am wondering what ver is in breezy repos
[03:21] <boxerboy29> how do you get rid of the ~ before the $ in the terminal?
[03:21] <dooglus> boxerboy29: that's your current directory.  you can get rid of it by "cd /"
[03:21] <anthony> ok any one want to help a guy with wireless problems
[03:21] <delire> karen: if i were you i'd just ensure that libghoto2 is installed (from gphoto2), plug in the camera and start gtkam or digikam.
[03:22] <boxerboy29> ty
[03:22] <dooglus> boxerboy29: or type PS1="$ "
[03:22] <jazzykay> anthony: what is the problem
[03:22] <dooglus> that'll give you a very minimal prompt
[03:22] <karen> delire, will do
[03:22] <commrules> is there a way to see the what failed/passed durring bootup of Ubuntu (I need to check what failed), im at the login screen now
[03:22] <delire> karen: a good trick for monitoring the system on a device level is 'sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog'
[03:22] <dooglus> commrules: I wish there was.
[03:22] <gach> hello my dear frinds
[03:23] <dbzdeath> leopard: paste the output of sudo lsmod in flood please
[03:23] <commrules> anthony: if your on a laptop, we all have wirless problems
[03:23] <delire> karen: not necessary but good for actually seeing what your kernel sees when you plug in the device.
[03:23] <dbzdeath> #flood even
[03:23] <anthony> jazzykay: well when ever i try to install the driver when i get to the modprobe ndiswrapper part it gives me an error
[03:23] <anthony> so there is no way to get it working
[03:23] <jazzykay> anthony: where did you install ndiswrapper from and what version are you running
[03:23] <dooglus> ColonelKernel: just ask :)
[03:23] <ColonelKernel> dooglus, does hoary use devfs and breezy use Udev and thats why vanilla 2.6.13+ kernels act fecally when I try them out?
[03:23] <ssdd65> how do i mount a external tape drive on my parrallel port?
[03:23] <anthony> i installed it from source and a i have 1.3
[03:24] <gach> well ubuntu didnt recognize my soundcard
[03:24] <ColonelKernel> im using hoary now
[03:24] <gach> and i cant see alsaconf script
[03:24] <dooglus> ColonelKernel: as far as I remember they both use udev.
[03:24] <dbzdeath> leopard: actually ... what firmware
[03:24] <delire> ColonelKernel: i think udev is going to be hairy in Ubuntu (and especially on new kernels) until breezy moves out of beta and goes gold.
[03:24] <gach> so.... what can i do to configure sound again?
[03:24] <jazzykay> anthony: believe it or not.. i installed mine from synaptic and it worked for me pretty nicely
[03:24] <dbzdeath> leopard: european or american
[03:24] <ssdd65> how do i mount a external tape drive on my parrallel port?
[03:24] <ColonelKernel> ugh - so I gotta stick to ubuntu sources for now
[03:25] <GhostFreeman> Where can I get an adblock file of sites with that annoying flash pop-up hack
[03:25] <jazzykay> anthony: what happens when you do an ndiswrapper -i driver ?
[03:25] <delire> ColonelKernel: is this a custom kernel?
[03:25] <anthony> it just gives me a list of all the options
[03:25] <gach> hey
[03:25] <jazzykay> anthony: do you have your wireless card driver cd?
[03:25] <anthony> yes
[03:25] <delire> GhostFreeman: if you're using FF use the extensions Flashblock and Adblock
[03:25] <gach> how can i reconfigure my sound card?
[03:25] <ColonelKernel> delire, yeah - but the config is fine, i am pretty good w getting kernels to work, 2.6.13+ dont have devfs or tmpfs so ubuntu has probs with them
[03:25] <dooglus> GhostFreeman: http://www.pierceive.com/ is good
[03:26] <jazzykay> anthony: i am using a linkysys wmp54g
[03:26] <anthony> i have the all the files including the inf file on my hard drive
[03:26] <ColonelKernel> delire, I can send or post my config if you'd like
[03:26] <dooglus> GhostFreeman: that's the home of filterset.g, a good list of adblock filters
[03:26] <leopard> dbdeath: 2.10 american
[03:26] <leopard> dbzdeath: posted lsmod in #flood
[03:26] <GhostFreeman> this will help
[03:26] <delire> ColonelKernel: well if you are using custom kernels you're on your own there! i also do this.
[03:26] <GhostFreeman> and i'll check out Flashblock
[03:26] <ssdd65> how do i mount a external tape drive on my parrallel port
[03:26] <karen> delire, any chance of there being a .deb?  (I could apt...build-ess...  but ya know...)
[03:26] <delire> gach: no alsaconf in Ubuntu (as with debian).
[03:26] <jazzykay> anthony: so what happens when you type ndiswrapper -i location.of.driver/driver
[03:26] <commrules> anyoen know what nolapic or apci=off does? did it prevent ubunto from autodetecting my wireless card? I thought these two commands were to disable Battery,lcd lid closing, and other useless laptop features
[03:26] <dbzdeath> leopard: thats why... http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-62389.html read that... iriver i am disappointed... i have a h340 which has great linux support
[03:26] <dooglus> GhostFreeman: also, if you use firefox 1.50 beta, they've fixed the flash-popup hole
[03:26] <delire> karen: a deb of..?
[03:26] <ColonelKernel> delire, yeah its not the kernel .config tho, hoary isnt stoked with 2.6.13+ kernels
[03:27] <leopard> dbzdeath: I wonder if I can roll back the firmware. I think I remember at least seeing a scsi device before the upgrade...argh!
[03:27] <delire> ColonelKernel: no it's not..
[03:27] <karen> delire, current gphoto2
[03:27] <gach> so delire... what can i do to configure sound?
[03:27] <GhostFreeman> I'm tempted to
[03:27] <delire> ColonelKernel: it's a couple of versions ahead.
[03:27] <anthony> jazzykay: i get this                                                                                                    root@Anthony:/home/anthony # ndiswrapper -i /home/anthony/Windows Drivers/WLAN1/bcmwl5.inf
[03:27] <anthony> Usage: ndiswrapper OPTION
[03:27] <anthony> Manage ndis drivers for ndiswrapper.
[03:27] <anthony> -i inffile        Install driver described by 'inffile'
[03:27] <anthony> -d pciid driver   Use installed 'driver' for 'pciid'
[03:27] <GhostFreeman> but FF in Ubuntu is bad enough as is
[03:27] <anthony> -e driver         Remove 'driver'
[03:27] <anthony> -l                List installed drivers
[03:27] <anthony> -m                Write configuration for modprobe
[03:27] <anthony> -hotplug          (Re)Generate hotplug information
[03:27] <anthony> root@Anthony:/home/anthony #
[03:27] <robotgeek> anthony: don't [aste in here!
[03:27] <anthony> sorry
[03:27] <dbzdeath> leopard: the last post pointing to a thread on misticriver.net seems most relevant
[03:27] <anthony> why not
[03:27] <delire> karen: have you tried your camera with the current one? really things start to get unstable when using packages from debian unstable (which is where you'd end up ;)
[03:28] <robotgeek> !tell anthony about pastebin
[03:28] <ssdd65> how do i mount a external tape drive on my parrallel port
[03:28] <dooglus> GhostFreeman: bad?
[03:28] <ColonelKernel> delire, everything else is so up to date though, at least compared to other distros, I hope breezy does better with them
[03:28] <dooglus> GhostFreeman: what's back with it?
[03:28] <jazzykay> anthony. i have the same card as you..
[03:28] <karen> delire, yup.  same thing.
[03:28] <vader1102> dbzdeath, thanx for helping him
[03:28] <GhostFreeman> it freezes up a lot on my end
[03:28] <delire> ColonelKernel: it will.
[03:28] <ColonelKernel> I might switch to gentoo if not
[03:28] <gach> how do i configure sound....
[03:28] <ColonelKernel> delire, thank the linux gods
[03:28] <delire> karen: ok so it's not working with the current gphoto
[03:28] <anthony> jazzykay: ok so what do you suggest i do
[03:28] <GhostFreeman> then again, i am on a 600MHz Celery with 256MB RAM
[03:28] <pc22> whats the 192.168.0.1 ---->> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently?
[03:28] <dooglus> GhostFreeman: I downloaded a 1.50 binary from mozilla.org and it's been fine.
[03:28] <commrules> what does nolapic or apci=off do?
[03:28] <delire> ColonelKernel: yes thank them ;)
[03:29] <GhostFreeman> I should check 1.5 out
[03:29] <jimurine> hey i can't run shell commands with superuser privelages in the terminal, there's no root password
[03:29] <ColonelKernel> my centos server is 2.6.14-rc1 and it runs great
[03:29] <dooglus> GhostFreeman: it seems to crash quite reliably when I quit it, but that's only once a day, so no big deal.
[03:29] <GhostFreeman> im using 1.0.5
[03:29] <ColonelKernel> I love using a really up to date kernel
[03:29] <ColonelKernel> i like compiling my own
[03:29] <gach> how do i reconfigure sound please!!!
[03:29] <leopard> dbzdeath: H10 Modding/Hacking?
[03:29] <robotgeek> !tell jimurine about sudo
[03:29] <jimurine> sudo?
[03:29] <karen> delire, I found http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/pool/main/g/gphoto2/ which has a deb dated after my camera was added - is that safe?
[03:29] <ColonelKernel> once you learn how to do it its like learning how to repair your own transmission
[03:29] <delire> karen: do this 'sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog' and plug in the camera.
[03:29] <jack-> sudo su -
[03:29] <jack-> ;p
[03:30] <vader1102> gach, just give them a few, if they kbow, they will answer
[03:30] <dbzdeath> leopard: Devices running UMS firmware are compatible with generic USB Mass Storage drivers <--- you want the UMS firmware... http://www.misticriver.net/boards/showthread.php?t=14853 <--- thats a howto
[03:30] <dooglus> ColonelKernel: or rather it's like learning how to go to #garage and beg for help :)
[03:30] <newbling> anyone got a link to download ndiswrapper?
[03:30] <delire> karen: well no, it's from an external repository. best to stick with Ubuntu or compile from source. it will mess up your dependencies.
[03:30] <dbzdeath> leopard: UMS firmware has disadvantages which are addressed in that thread
[03:30] <jazzykay> anthony: here is the url i used: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:30] <ColonelKernel> no way!
[03:30] <gach> thnks vader
[03:30] <leopard> dbzdeath: thanks a million.
[03:30] <jazzykay> i would try the ndiswrapper avaiable from synaptic.
[03:30] <vader1102> gach, yw
[03:30] <anthony> i need to know how to get rid of a alias directive
[03:30] <gach> HOW DO I RECONFIGURE SOUND PLEase!!!
[03:30] <delire> gach: what is not working?
[03:30] <ColonelKernel> ive had 2 glasses of wine in the last 3 hours and im drunk.
[03:31] <robotgeek> karen: better to compile from source, and install a checkinstall deb. it's safer than a debian binary!
[03:31] <jazzykay> make sure your driver and you have the right privielege
[03:31] <dbzdeath> leopard: your welcome.. good luck
[03:31] <Xenguy> Hey, can anyone tell me what the blurb at the top of /etc/X11/xorg.conf means?  If find it a bit unclear; all I want to do is hand-edit the file and see if it helps my 'ugly font' problem. Anyone?
[03:31] <jazzykay> i think they recommend sudo -s from the command line..
[03:31] <karen> delire, last line of i/var/log/syslog s libgphoto2: loaded successfully
[03:31] <jack-> sudo su -
[03:31] <gach> delire... my sound card.. does not get detected
[03:31] <anthony> how do i know if i have the right privielege
[03:31] <delire> gach: there is no configuration script for sound in ubuntu, nothing like alsaconfig..
[03:31] <gach> i repeat
[03:31] <jack-> problem solved
[03:31] <karen> nothing else very interesting
[03:31] <gach> does not get detected
[03:31] <anthony> ok
[03:31] <delire> gach: right.. lspci. what is the card?
[03:32] <gach> so delire... what should i do
[03:32] <newbling> I have an intel pro/2200bg, should ubuntu autodetect my wireless?
[03:32] <Xenguy> jack-: sudo -s is the recommended method IIRC
[03:32] <gach> is a sis 7018
[03:32] <leopard> doh: dialup at home...until Tuesday, gawd this is slow...
[03:32] <robotgeek> Xenguy: it's just about how to generate that file again. back up xorg.conf somewhere, and edit at will
[03:32] <delire> karen: right good. do you see the name of your camera in the output?
[03:32] <Xenguy> robotgeek: hrm
[03:32] <karen> delire, nope
[03:32] <jack-> xenguy, ok..but it has its disadantages
[03:32] <delire> karen: ok, regardless, just start up gtkam or digikam and see if it works.
[03:32] <anthony> sudo -s didnt work
[03:32] <vinboy> hi
[03:32] <nba> hello everybody
[03:32] <gach> it always recognizes it
[03:33] <nba> sos pls
[03:33] <vinboy> how do I disbale the window maximise and minimise animation
[03:33] <leopard> dbzdeath: I'm going to revert it back to 1.00, I think I at least remember seeing a SCSI device then.
[03:33] <anthony> it said i cant excute binary file
[03:33] <Xenguy> robotgeek: OK, so I'll backup the file of course, but can I then just edit, save, and re-start X ?
[03:33] <delire> gach: modprobe -l | grep snd
[03:33] <gach> but... somehow i think i pressed esc when the detection program was running
[03:33] <karen> delire, I don't have gtkam or digikam
[03:33] <gach> and maybe that was it
[03:33] <Xenguy> jack-: any major disadvantage?
[03:33] <dbzdeath> leopard: ah ok well you should google and see if reverting firmware can cause any problems
[03:33] <robotgeek> Xenguy: yup
[03:33] <cute_bettong> ok i updated the last day or so and now something happend and i get a blue screen
[03:33] <bimberi> anthony: unalias <whatever>
[03:33] <dbzdeath> maybe just search misticriver.net
[03:33] <cute_bettong> and i can't get into my desktop
[03:33] <delire> karen: right, install one or the other. the first is gtk based, the second, KDE or qt based.
[03:33] <cute_bettong> how to fix
[03:33] <cute_bettong> and it's breezy
[03:34] <nba> just installed ubuntu
[03:34] <robotgeek> cute_bettong: if u use gnome, did u try a different wm?
[03:34] <Xenguy> robotgeek: and is there a danger of it being overwritten during a subsequent upgrade, or other risks?
[03:34] <jazzykay> anythony: you could not sudo -s from a terminal to bring up a root prompt?
[03:34] <karen> off we go...
[03:34] <delire> karen: these appications are fairly 'automagical' with cameras.
[03:34] <cute_bettong> xserver is broken
[03:34] <robotgeek> Xenguy: it doesnt touch it if you customize it
[03:34] <karen> yea for magic
[03:34] <jack-> xenguy: the timeout for example
[03:34] <nba> i can't play yahoo launchcast radio
[03:34] <robotgeek> cute_bettong: oops
[03:34] <newbling> whats wpa?
[03:34] <Xenguy> robotgeek: I see - thanks for clarifying
[03:34] <cute_bettong> and yes but i don't want to polloute my menus in gnome
[03:34] <gach> delire..
[03:34] <jack-> after 5 mins or so, you're not root anymore
[03:34] <delire> gach: do you have the drivers for the card loaded?
[03:34] <gach> delire i got all the kernel drivers
[03:34] <Xenguy> jack-: ah, OK, I see what you mean
[03:34] <cute_bettong> so i kinda don't wanna install fluxbox
[03:34] <robotgeek> nba: AFAIK, you can't. active X required
[03:34] <jimurine> !tell jimurine XFree86Config
[03:35] <jack-> i prefer a permanent root shell, if i need one
[03:35] <delire> gach: go to alsa-project.org and check in the card database to ensure it is supported.
[03:35] <jack-> too confusing with that sudo shit
[03:35] <Xenguy> jack-: me too actually
[03:35] <cute_bettong> and it's now whining about some sorta sound int error
[03:35] <jazzykay> jack: you can enable root but it is not recommened
[03:35] <robotgeek> jack-: it's not confusing
[03:35] <jimurine> where's the XFree86Config file at again? /etc/X11...?
[03:35] <delire> gach: 'play /path/to/a/sound.wav' doesn't work?
[03:35] <vinboy> hi guys
[03:35] <vinboy> is ther ea way to convert ntfs to ext3?
[03:35] <Xenguy> jack-: actually I meant a real root account (set in my ways I guess :-)
[03:35] <cute_bettong> so can someone help me get gnome back up?
[03:35] <robotgeek> jimurine: it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:35] <gach> delire... i dont have the mixer applet
[03:35] <jack-> jazzykay i know, i did ;p
[03:35] <psusi> I'm trying to set up the raw device to do some hard disk benchmarks with dd but when I ask dd to read from the raw device with a block size that is a multiple of the sector size, it says /dev/raw0: invalid argument... what gives?
[03:35] <nba> how will i do that robotgeek
[03:35] <robotgeek> Xenguy: there's a reason why there's a sudo
[03:36] <gach> delire so i guess i dont have the modules loaded
[03:36] <robotgeek> nba: you can't
[03:36] <jimurine> oh xorg, ok thanks
[03:36] <jazzykay> gach: check if you have oss/alsa/esd in your perferences/multimedia systems selector
[03:36] <gach> delire is there a way to run ubuntu's hardware detection again=
[03:36] <gach> ?
[03:36] <jazzykay> jack: :-) good for yah
[03:36] <Xenguy> robotgeek: I've read the web site blurb, and it seems to be a moot point
[03:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so is there some way to fix the gnome problem with xserver?
[03:36] <nalioth> vinboy: it's easy to convert ntfs to ext3. the trick is, no data survives
[03:36] <Xenguy> robotgeek: but to each their own
[03:36] <delire> gach: not really..
[03:36] <johndavid> im installing the Nvidia drivers and i need to know how to kill the X serv?
[03:36] <galgo> cual es el canal en espaol
[03:36] <robotgeek> Xenguy: :)
[03:37] <robotgeek> galgo: #ubuntu-es
[03:37] <nba> u mean i can't play launchcast radio robotgeek?
[03:37] <delire> gach: what is the name of your card again?
[03:37] <Bicchi> there used to be a guide for ubuntu but i can not find it. does anyone knows the website. it was www.ubuntuguide.com i think
[03:37] <robotgeek> nba: yup :(
[03:37] <jazzykay> jonhdavid : CTRL ALT BACKSPACE
[03:37] <nba> why
[03:37] <dooglus> Bicchi: it's down
[03:37] <dooglus> Bicchi: they're moving, or something.
[03:37] <johndavid> doesnt that just log me out?
[03:37] <delire> gach: quick, it's late here.
[03:37] <jimurine> is it init 5 that closes X and goes to command prompt?
[03:37] <jazzykay> no.. it kills you x session and restarts it
[03:37] <robotgeek> nba: complain to yahoo! active x is windows only
[03:37] <Bicchi> dooglus: are they part of ubuntu or is it a different entity?
[03:37] <johndavid> i need to kill the X serv in order to install the nvidia drivers
[03:37] <nba> i see
[03:38] <nba> thanks
[03:38] <jazzykay> if you use synaptic you don't
[03:38] <jimurine> johndavid: me too so let's listen up
[03:38] <dooglus> Bicchi: it's an independant site.  many here seem to dislike it, since it just gives 'recipes' without any understanding.
[03:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[03:38] <jimurine> !tell jimurine init
[03:38] <jazzykay> i used snaptic to get mine and i was in my gui :-)
[03:38] <robotgeek> nba: though, you can try funky stuff with wine, but i havent done that. can't help u there!
[03:38] <mindframe> anyone know why my junk filters dont work in thunderbird in ubuntu?  ive configured it the exact same way as i had it in windows.
[03:38] <jazzykay> let me get you the howto from wiki
[03:38] <dooglus> johndavid: run "sudo telinit 1" in a shell?
[03:38] <karen> im sad.  gtkam, add camera lists the cx7530, but it is still sad
[03:38] <dooglus> johndavid: that will close everything and take you to single user mode
[03:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so anyone have any idea whats going on with xserver and gnome?
[03:39] <delire> gach: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-SiS#matrix
[03:39] <jazzykay> here is the wiki i used: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia?highlight=%28nvidia%29
[03:39] <johndavid> so i need to run level 1 not 3?
[03:39] <nba> robotgeek: is there other radio station supported by ubuntu?
[03:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and how to help me?
[03:39] <delire> karen: what does 'sad' mean. more info..
[03:39] <dooglus> johndavid: "telinit 2" to get gdm running again
[03:39] <johndavid> k ill try it
[03:39] <johndavid> thanks
[03:39] <johndavid> brb
[03:39] <delire> karen: hate to be such a robot, but it will help ;)
[03:39] <dooglus> johndavid: in ubuntu levels 2 and 3 are the same, unfortunately
[03:39] <dooglus> johndavid: in a sane system, 2 would be command line and 3 would be gdm
[03:39] <nba> robotgeek: we're testing our newly installed ubuntu here
[03:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> brb
[03:39] <dooglus> johndavid: but ubuntu has gdm in 2 and 3
[03:40] <Deekin> Anyone know why Firefox doesn't want to start on the liveCD version? It'll try to load, then stop and I don't see the PID in TOP. I had it open before and closed it - I'd hate to resetart the session
[03:40] <nba> robotheek: we can't play mp3 either
[03:40] <robotgeek>  nba shoutcast
[03:40] <leopard> dbzdeath: Got it!!! All I had to do was remove the battery for a minute, hold down the O key and then turn the puppy on, up came the /media/usbdisk -- Thanks!!!
[03:40] <nba> robotgeek: wats the website
[03:40] <robotgeek> nba: www.shoutcast.com
[03:41] <nba> robotgeek: thanks a lot
[03:42] <karen> delire, in "Add camear" is model: kodak cx7530 - I hit "apply" and get "could not initialize the camera"
[03:42] <cafuego_> Deekin; Run it from a terminal, check output.
[03:42] <commrules> I have an Intel Pro/Wireless 2200bg, is this equivalent to ipw2200? or am i better off installin ndiswrapper? <<
[03:43] <delire> karen: with some cameras you need to set them in PC mode, or turn them off (believe it or not).
[03:43] <cute_bettong> no it won't let me into fluxbox either
[03:43] <cute_bettong> i have text only
[03:43] <cute_bettong> >.<
[03:43] <robotgeek> cute_bettong: check /var/log/xorg.log.0 or something
[03:43] <robotgeek> cute_bettong: or .xsession-errors
[03:43] <delire> karen: try running gtkam using sudo. eg 'sudo gtkam'. this will ensure there aren't permissions problems at work here.
[03:44] <cute_bettong> something is wrong it goes to the invidia logo and then kicks back into the text and repeats the same sequince a few times
[03:44] <Gorth> hey guys!
[03:44] <cute_bettong> and then has an xserver errpr
[03:44] <delire> commrules: yes it is
[03:44] <cute_bettong> error even
[03:44] <Gorth> what's a good program for making ISOs?
[03:44] <delire> commrules: i have this same card.
[03:44] <Gorth> or BINs or whatever
[03:44] <cute_bettong> i have no gui capabilitys whatso ever >.<
[03:44] <cafuego_> cute_bettong: Yeah, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for lines atrting with (EE)
[03:44] <karen> delire, how come lsusb doesn't show it?  and yet something knows a camera is plugged in cuz the "import photos" dialog comes up when I plug it in
[03:44] <cute_bettong> ok
[03:44] <commrules> delire: is there any disadvantage to using ndiswrapper vs. ipw2200?
[03:44] <cafuego_> Gorth: mkisofs ?
[03:44] <cute_bettong> how do i do that from text mode
[03:44] <Gorth> thanks cafuego!
[03:44] <cute_bettong> i'm not used to this
[03:44] <goose_boy> hey where is azureus? its not in the repos?
[03:44] <robotgeek> prot0col had the same error, i think. maybe, even an error on bugzilla
[03:45] <cafuego_> commrules: Yes, ndiswrapper is satan, ipw220 is not.
[03:45] <delire> commrules: ndiswrapper really sucks and you'll miss out on alot of the ipw2200 goodness. i run debian on my laptop with the ipw2200 using the ipw2200.sf.net drivers.
[03:45] <Deekin> Cafuego: bin] $ ./firefox
[03:45] <Deekin> INTERNAL ERROR on Browser End: JavaPluginFactory5 init - no agent?
[03:45] <Deekin> System error?:: No such file or directory
[03:45] <delire> karen: strange yes..
[03:45] <delire> karen: try running 'gphoto2' from the command line. anything?
[03:46] <karen> delire, big page of help
[03:46] <delire> karen: make that 'gphoto2 --summary'
[03:46] <dooglus> I asked earlier how to get commands after 'sudo' on the command line to complete in bash.  I found out.  You run: "complete -c sudo" in your .bashrc
[03:46] <lui> hi guys
[03:46] <Gorth> erm
[03:46] <cafuego_> Deekin: Check the plugins dirs for java related crud, then remove them.
[03:46] <goose_boy> where do i get azeurus?
[03:46] <Gorth> does mkisofs make an ISO from an already existing CD?
[03:46] <karen> *** Error (-105: 'Unknown model') ***
[03:47] <cafuego_> Gorth: No, you do that using 'dd'.
[03:47] <Deekin> cafuego: hmmm, ok....*wanders off to Moz dir...*
[03:47] <delire> karen: it's not detected.
[03:47] <Gorth> ah
[03:47] <mindframe> anyone know why my junk filters dont work in thunderbird in ubuntu?  ive configured it the exact same way as i had it in windows.
[03:47] <Gorth> thatnks cafuego_!
[03:47] <cafuego_> Gorth: dd if=/dev/hdc of=foo.iso
[03:47] <lui> can I see my linux hda1 from the live cd?
[03:47] <delire> karen: ok.. have you used this camera on windows/OSX?
[03:47] <vinboy> is ext3 better than ext2?
[03:47] <karen> yes.  works in win98
[03:47] <nalioth> mindframe: have you trained it?
[03:47] <cafuego_> hit return, wait, done. Does not work for Audio CDs.
[03:47] <karen> untll win98 bit it ;)
[03:47] <dooglus> vinboy: ext3 is the same as ext2 but with journaling added.  it's better.
[03:47] <cafuego_> vinboy: No. It's also not worse.
[03:48] <delire> karen: hmm well it will work in Linux.. a canon?
[03:48] <mindframe> nalioth, yes ive been trying to, but it seems like its taking so damn long.  it wont learn anything.
[03:48] <vinboy> cool
[03:48] <lui> cafuego_, hello man, can you help me?
[03:48] <dooglus> vinboy: but reiserfs is what you really need :)
[03:48] <cafuego_> lui: yes, you can see hda1 from the livecd. Just mount it.
[03:48] <nalioth> mindframe: if you have your windows t-bird user setting directory, .....
[03:48] <delire> karen: can you 'sudo modprobe usbcore && depmod -ae' for me?
[03:48] <jazzykay> reiserfs... two minds on that..
[03:48] <cafuego_> vinboy: don't listen to dooglus
[03:48] <vinboy> dooglus, really??.. but how do i get that???
[03:48] <delire> karen: sorry 'sudo depmod -ae'
[03:48] <vinboy> cafuego,  lol
[03:48] <jazzykay> i never liked it
[03:48] <dooglus> vinboy: don't listen to me
[03:49] <cafuego_> reiserfs is not actually very fast AND it fails a lot.
[03:49] <vinboy> ok ok
[03:49] <lui> cafuego_, like sudo mount /dev/hda1?
[03:49] <dooglus> cafuego_: it does not!
[03:49] <jazzykay> vinboy: read up on both and find out which one you want
[03:49] <goose_boy> i cant find Azureus in synaptic?
[03:49] <vinboy> k
[03:49] <vinboy> i'll google it
[03:49] <goose_boy> where can i get it?
[03:49] <karen> delire, so sudo modprobe usbcore && depmod -ae ?
[03:49] <cafuego_> lui Yeah, except add a mount point and filesystem type. (man mount)
[03:49] <dooglus> vinboy: reiserfs is built into the kernel, just like ext2 and ext3
[03:49] <cafuego_> vinboy: ext3 is invariably the preferred FS for desktop Linux installs.
[03:49] <delire> karen: should be *sudo depmod -ae
[03:49] <lui> cafuego_, ok
[03:50] <jazzykay> goose_boy: azureus uses java so i believe it was not bundled.. some people who have been using it longer may give another story
[03:50] <vinboy> ok.. thanks guys
[03:50] <karen> delire, done.
[03:50] <jazzykay> vinboy: if this is the first time.. stay with ext3 :-)
[03:50] <delire> karen: now try 'sudo gtkam' and see what happens
[03:51] <vinboy> yup i'm a newbie here
[03:51] <jazzykay> goose_boy: google azureus and download it after you have java running
[03:51] <nba_> robotgeek: sorry dc
[03:51] <dooglus> vinboy: there's a discussion here: http://linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reports/3726/1/
[03:51] <nba_> our musicplayer can't play mp3
[03:52] <karen> delire, it detected it and I got pics!
[03:52] <delire> karen: great ;)
[03:53] <jazzykay> anyone play with installing icon themes in gnome?
[03:53] <goose_boy> do you thin KDE might be better envornment for someone that is new to linux from windows
[03:53] <delire> karen: it may be you need to have usbcore loaded. also ensure you use sudo with gtkam for the time being.
[03:53] <robotgeek> tell nba_ about mp3
[03:53] <robotgeek> !tell nba_ about mp3
[03:53] <karen> delire, ok, so im in breezy (i know... i now...)  think there is a bug in here?
[03:53] <jazzykay> goose_boy: i like kde and gnome both are very nice and easy.
[03:53] <cute_bettong> ok here is what the error says
[03:53] <bimberi> ubotu tell goose_boy about azureus
[03:53] <delire> karen: yes, likely. breezy is still 'beta'.
[03:53] <jazzykay> goose_boy: stay away from fluxbox, enlightenment till later
[03:54] <thewayofzen> anyone else having trouble connecting to  www.ubuntuguide.org
[03:54] <bimberi> ubotu tell goose_boy about hoary-extras
[03:54] <cute_bettong> Fatal Server Error: failes to initialize core deveices
[03:54] <thewayofzen> is it gone for good.. will it be back.. etc?
[03:54] <jazzykay> i did last night.. but i can connect with a windows box no issues
[03:54] <nba_> robotgeek: our musicplayer can't play mp3
[03:54] <nba_> robotgeek: wat seems the problem
[03:54] <ouroboros> anyone can possibly help with amd64 + hoary || trying to get direct rendering enabled on a.......a...... All in Wonder pro 128 (Rage128) - [noob tears] 
[03:54] <cute_bettong> and theres a few mouse things with (ee)in front
[03:54] <robotgeek> nba_: please read the link which ubotu sent you
[03:54] <ColonelKernel> ouroboros, old school card
[03:54] <cute_bettong> but those are in regards to the mouse
[03:54] <ouroboros> def
[03:55] <ouroboros> waiting for $$$ for SLI 6800 (yeah right)
[03:55] <sproingie> nothing wrong with a rage 128 if you want a tv tuner card or decent 2d
[03:55] <ouroboros> indeed!
[03:55] <ouroboros> that's the spirit
[03:55] <ColonelKernel> nothing wrong w it at all
[03:55] <newbling> anyone here get ipw2200 to work? I typed $ sudo dmesg | grep ipw , and it returned ipw2220: intel pro/wireless 2200/2815 newtork driver, 0.19 ..bla..blaa ipw2200: Radio Frequency Kill switch is on    . But when i type iwconfig , it finds eth1 no wirless extensions   ?? how do i get wireles to work
[03:55] <ouroboros> hmm, but how-to install such an ancient card?
[03:55] <jazzykay> ubuntuguide is down right now for me too
[03:55] <delire> karen: i would say that if you are having problems of this kind after breezy goes 'gold', inform the developers and formally register a bug.
[03:55] <ColonelKernel> my server has a gf4mx440 and a bttv card - theres nothing wrong with sticking with what works
[03:55] <ouroboros> ubuntuguide.org has been down for days!
[03:55] <robotgeek> newbling: can u post your 'dmesg" output to the pastebin
[03:55] <nalioth> !ubuntuguide
[03:55] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[03:55] <cute_bettong> and thats the only thing that /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:55] <tritium> newbling, ipw2200 support in breezy is greatly improved over hoary
[03:55] <delire> karen: but for now, the problem is solveable.
[03:55] <goose_boy> is suns java packaged too?
[03:55] <cute_bettong> says
[03:55] <ColonelKernel> I didnt mean old school as a negative thing
[03:56] <delire> anyway, i'm out. good luck all.
[03:56] <jazzykay> the mirror site for ubuntuguide is up
[03:56] <ouroboros> indeed
[03:56] <ouroboros> olesk00l
[03:56] <ouroboros> [beers] 
[03:56] <sproingie> ye olde sk00l
[03:56] <ouroboros> back when KDE Was "Just released!"
[03:56] <ColonelKernel> surprisingly enough, the gf4mx440 runs things like et just fine and it does overlay properly , unlike my gf6600
[03:57] <nba_> robotgeek: is there an online help re: office org
[03:57] <ouroboros> hmm
[03:57] <ouroboros> ColonelKernel: that bites in ways
[03:57] <sinned> Hello
[03:57] <cute_bettong> so can anyone help?
[03:57] <ColonelKernel> ouroboros, it really does
[03:57] <sinned> Can anyone help me setup 3d acceleration with an ATI card?
[03:57] <sinned> i've tried all of the guides
[03:57] <sinned> and nothing is working
[03:57] <ouroboros> sinned what card?
[03:57] <sinned> 9600xt
[03:58] <ouroboros> ooo
[03:58] <sinned> I had the thing setup before
[03:58] <sinned> But I can't remember what I did
[03:58] <ouroboros> lmao
[03:58] <sinned> :/
[03:58] <ColonelKernel> the ati 9800 pro did the same thing with overlay the 6600 does - I guess they use the 3d processor for doing overlay instead of the 2d stuff like they used to do
[03:58] <sinned> I had it setup and was playing wow and shit on it
[03:58] <ouroboros> I had amarok running on my last ubuntu hoary install...now the damn thing opens but no sound
[03:58] <robotgeek> nba_: try google, there are forums. dunno the link right now. plus, there should be a help file in open office
[03:58] <ColonelKernel> I discovered it using mplayer with xv
[03:58] <ouroboros> sinned: you hit up the ubuntuforums?
[03:58] <tritium> sinned, you followed the BinaryDriverHowto ?
[03:58] <sinned> Yes tritium
[03:58] <sinned> Didn't work
[03:59] <nba_> robotgeek: yeah there is
[03:59] <tritium> in what way?
[03:59] <ouroboros> hmm, makes sense ColonelKernel
[03:59] <sinned> Then I tried using the guide for the ati drivers from ati's site
[03:59] <Xenguy> 'Ugly font' problem solved:  all I had to do was drop the colour in /etc/X11/xorg.conf from 24 to 16
[03:59] <Xenguy> bwahaha
[03:59] <ColonelKernel> ouroboros, scary stuff though - it even does it in windows so I know its a hardware thing
[03:59] <sinned> tritium, sinned@spartan:~$ fglrxinfo
[03:59] <sinned> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[03:59] <sinned> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:59] <nba_> robotgeek: but i ahve prob encounterd in printing
[03:59] <robotgeek> nba_: are you on breezy?
[03:59] <newbling> where is pastebin?
[03:59] <ouroboros> mmm, they planned to conquer the world with their flashy 3d technology
[03:59] <nba_> robotgeek: wat u mean
[04:00] <ouroboros> and they're hip scalable link interfaces
[04:00] <robotgeek> nba_: what version of ubuntu linux are u using?
[04:00] <ouroboros> they're = their too
[04:00] <ColonelKernel> hell, if breezy can handle a 2.6.13+ kernel, i'll use the preview release until its released
[04:00] <robotgeek> !tell newbling about pastebin
[04:00] <newbling> Can i upgrade to breezy from 5.04?
[04:00] <newbling> or do i have to reinstall
[04:00] <tritium> yes, newbling
[04:00] <ColonelKernel> newbling, thats a downgrade
[04:00] <nba_> robotgeek: 5.04
[04:01] <lui> cafuego_, I upgraded to breezy but now at the time to login the keyboard doesn't write nothing, like not working but it is working, you know what could be?
[04:01] <newbling> i thought breezy was 5.10
[04:01] <goose_boy> hmm does anyone have a lexmark z23?
[04:01] <goose_boy> for some reason it doesnt print
[04:01] <ouroboros> Bahahahaha! http://www.mega64.com/rcr.mpg
[04:01] <sproingie> ouroboros: i think for dri you need to compile support into your kernel
[04:02] <Deekin> vafuego: I yanked out javaplugin_oji.so from the plugins directory but no luck. Heck its easier to reboot it at this point :)
[04:02] <cute_bettong> so anyone know why my xserver is busted based on what i said earlyer?
[04:02] <robotgeek> nba_: doesn't print to where?
[04:02] <ouroboros> oh man don't tell me that, sproingie
[04:02] <lui> newbling, you can but wait breezy to be stable next month
[04:02] <bob2> newbling: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[04:02] <Deekin> cafuego, rather, sorry
[04:02] <tritium> sinned, are you sure you followed this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[04:02] <ouroboros> there's no uh, vi /etc/ati/.conf and added 1 instead of 0 for this?
[04:02] <nba_> robotgeek: it does print but not at my specified area
[04:03] <sinned> Very sure tritium
[04:03] <nba_> robotgeek: specifically the lower part of the paper
[04:03] <lui> If anybody can help me:  I upgraded to breezy but now at the time to login the keyboard doesn't write nothing, like not working but it is working, you know what could be?
[04:03] <robotgeek> nba_: i dunno much, please refer to the forums :(
[04:03] <nba_> robotgeek: ok, thanks anyway
[04:03] <cute_bettong> i need to get my xserver back up and my gui
[04:04] <paulproteus> Anyone here running the Eclipse IDE on Breezy or Hoary on AMD64?
[04:04] <tritium> cute_bettong, what's the problem?
[04:04] <paulproteus> It doesn't pick up my Sun JDK when I enter it.
[04:05] <commrules> wierd, if I log in as root, should the password be the same one as your normal login, for some reason mine isnt and i just installed ubuntu
[04:05] <cute_bettong> tritium i installed the updates on my box
[04:05] <commrules> should=shouldnt
[04:05] <sproingie> i've never convinced java-package to recognize a recent jdk, so i always install java stuff manually
[04:05] <goose_boy> my printer just spits out a blank page when i try to print a test page with it
[04:05] <tritium> !tell commrules about rootsudo
[04:05] <cute_bettong> tritium: and they did something to it
[04:05] <memin> Hello I need help installing gtk+2.7.5 in ubuntu 5.10 can someone help?
[04:05] <cute_bettong> tritium: so when i rebooted it did somehing to xserver
[04:06] <tritium> cute_bettong, are you running breezy?
[04:06] <cute_bettong> tritium: and it screwd it up so i have text only and that is it
[04:06] <cute_bettong> tritium: yes
[04:06] <ksmurf> sorry for such a bad question but does anyone know of a repo for w32codecs?
[04:06] <bob2> memin: why do you think you need that specific version?
[04:06] <tritium> cute_bettong, udev was broken, but is now fixed.
[04:06] <Turicas> i want to configure a command to be executed when i type key? (i want to configure it in X, dont in wm)
[04:06] <tritium> Did you update to the latest packages, cute_bettong ?
[04:06] <ksmurf> That they will share?
[04:06] <cute_bettong> tritium: ok how do i get that so every thing works again
[04:07] <bob2> Turicas: X doesn't do that sort of thing, sorry
[04:07] <tritium> cute_bettong, just upgrade
[04:07] <lui> If anybody can help me:  I upgraded to breezy but now at the time to login the keyboard doesn't write nothing, like not working but it is working, you know what could be?
[04:07] <cute_bettong> tritium: how
[04:07] <tritium> cute_bettong, perhaps you should not be running breezy if you don't know how.
[04:07] <cute_bettong> tritium: i'm tryin to learn so this is good for me
[04:08] <cute_bettong> tritium: i am running it becuase a freind said it was ok to go from horey
[04:08] <tritium> cute_bettong, okay, sudo aptitude update, followed by sudo aptitude upgrade
[04:08] <tritium> that's hoary ;)
[04:08] <sinned> Omg this is so fucking fusterating
[04:08] <kairu0> lui, is that an english keyboard?
[04:08] <bimberi> dist-upgrade?
[04:08] <Turicas> bob2, uhm..and do you know how i can configure it in xfce?
[04:08] <sinned> I've tried every guide I could find
[04:08] <memin> bob2 I am trying to install clearlooks-cairo theme it says that i need gtk+2.7.or =>
[04:08] <sinned> Nothing
[04:08] <cute_bettong> tritium: ok sorry just trying here
[04:09] <dennis__> Grrr
[04:09] <tritium> cute_bettong, lui: please make sure you have the latest udev package installed
[04:09] <cute_bettong> tritium: at least i'll have this knowledge in the future
[04:09] <dennis__> Fuck ati and its shitty drivers
[04:09] <goose_boy> hey in gaim msn, can i use the voice talk feature?
[04:09] <kairu0> amen
[04:09] <robotgeek> dennis__: language, but amen!
[04:09] <goose_boy> or is that not available under gaim?
[04:09] <robotgeek> goose_boy: nope
[04:09] <cute_bettong> tritium: and thank you for your help i really apriciate it
[04:09] <dennis__> I got this to work about 3 weeks ago
[04:09] <dennis__> But I formatted
[04:09] <lui> kairu0, nope, latin america
[04:09] <bob2> memin: so, install libgtk2.0-dev
[04:09] <dennis__> and can't get it to work again
[04:09] <bob2> Turicas: no, sorry
[04:10] <tritium> sure, cute_bettong.  The version for udev should be 0.060-1ubuntu14
[04:10] <goose_boy> damn
[04:10] <kairu0> lui, did you set that keyboard during the install?
[04:10] <dennis__> I've tried everything
[04:10] <dennis__> The binarydriverhowto...the guides in the forum
[04:10] <dennis__> And nothing works :/
[04:10] <bob2> ignore the forums
[04:10] <dennis__> sinned@spartan:~$ fglrxinfo
[04:10] <dennis__> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[04:10] <dennis__> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[04:10] <dennis__> GRRR
[04:10] <bob2> er
[04:10] <bob2> that's pretty trivial
[04:10] <dennis__> ?
[04:10] <bob2> you didn't load the right driver in your xorg.conf
[04:11] <dennis__> yes I did
[04:11] <tritium> fglrx?
[04:11] <lui> kairu0, it is set, I checked the xorg. conf
[04:11] <dennis__> Yup
[04:11] <bob2> then show us your entire config file
[04:11] <dennis__> k
[04:11] <robotgeek> dennis__: use the pastebin
[04:11] <dennis__> I know
[04:11] <kairu0> lui, is it a usb keyboard?
[04:11] <robotgeek> dennis__: :)
[04:12] <Toma-> anyone know how to set the gtk engine th kde?
[04:12] <lui> kairu0, nope, ps/2
[04:12] <dennis__> http://pastebin.com/370578
[04:12] <tritium> lui, was it working before an upgrade yesterday?
[04:12] <kairu0> lui, does your mouse work?
[04:13] <newbling> so i can upgrade hoary to breezy by following these instructions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes ?
[04:13] <thewayofzen> anyone know when w32codecs were removed from the repos and is there another place to get em?
[04:13] <tritium> yes, newbling
[04:13] <bob2> dennis__: and your X log
[04:13] <Gobbla> no that is for building a nuclear bomb..
[04:13] <robotgeek> thewayofzen: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/ torrents
[04:13] <lui> kairu0, yes it works. tritium, it was, and it's working now
[04:13] <bob2> thewayofzen: a few days ago
[04:13] <dennis__> wheres the xlog located?
[04:13] <tritium> !tell thewayofzen about w32codecs
[04:13] <bob2> thewayofzen: you really can't find the .deb using google?
[04:13] <robotgeek> !tell me about w32codecs
[04:14] <jack-> !tell jack- about w32codecs
[04:14] <memin> bob2 it wont workcbob2 it worked but now I am getting a new error--->config.status: error: cannot find input file: Makefile.in
[04:14] <dennis__> bob2, where is the xlog file located?
[04:14] <bob2> memin: then the source tree is broken
[04:14] <thewayofzen> okee.. ill do that then.
[04:14] <bob2> dennis__: /var/log
[04:14] <bob2> memin: or you forgot to run autogen.sh
[04:14] <dennis__> and its called xorg.log?
[04:14] <mindframe> how do i mount a usb flash drive?
[04:14] <memin> bob2 no I didn't know I hat to run it
[04:14] <tritium> Xorg.0.log
[04:14] <dennis__> k thanks
[04:15] <robotgeek> mindframe: just plug it in, and it should mount to /media/<label>
[04:15] <bob2> memin: then read the instructions
[04:15] <robotgeek> mindframe: if u are using gnome
[04:15] <Toma-> ubotu: how do i set gtk?
[04:15] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Toma-
[04:15] <Toma-> damn you
[04:15] <memin> there are no instructions
[04:15] <dennis__> bob2, http://pastebin.com/370579
[04:15] <tritium> memin, no README?
[04:15] <goose_boy> do you think KDE might be better for a windows newbie than gnome
[04:15] <mindframe> robotgeek, im not.
[04:15] <Toma-> goose_boy: yes
[04:16] <mindframe> goose_boy, i would say yes, it has a mac-osx type feel
[04:16] <memin> aI am following this this article http://madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5145&page=2
[04:16] <Deekin> Goose_Boy, I believe it is simply a matter of preference
[04:16] <robotgeek> mindframe: hmmm.. pmount /dev/sda1 <mount point>
[04:16] <memin> Bob2 I am following this this article http://madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5145&page=2
[04:16] <jack-> xfce is even better if you really want the windows feeling
[04:16] <bob2> (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.
[04:16] <bob2> dennis__: ^
[04:16] <Deekin> goose_Boy: I happen to like KDE - many others like Gnome
[04:16] <dennis__> :o
[04:17] <dennis__> How do I fix that :/
[04:17] <bob2> dennis__: you installed broken drivers from outside ubuntu
[04:17] <bob2> memin: then its missing steps
[04:17] <Deekin> or Enlightenment or a dozen others
[04:17] <dennis__> I installed the ones from ati.com
[04:17] <dennis__> then they didn't work
[04:17] <tritium> chame chame
[04:17] <memin> can you tell me the steps
[04:17] <dennis__> so I installed the ones from the binary guide
[04:17] <Deekin> yerah xfce is not windows hehe
[04:18] <cute_bettong> tritium: thanx man it worked ^_^
[04:18] <robotgeek> openbox with gnome...best of both worlds :)
[04:18] <kairu0> openbox is the bomb.com
[04:18] <memin> bob2 I am going to follow the readme
[04:18] <dennis__> bob2 so how do I uninstall the drivers from ati.com?
[04:18] <memin> bob2 to see if it works
[04:19] <tritium> cute_bettong, :)
[04:19] <cute_bettong> tritium: again thanx man ^_^
[04:19] <tritium> of course, cute_bettong
[04:19] <ouroboros> vncpasswd: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:20] <ouroboros> seems you can't apt-get install the old lib
[04:20] <ouroboros> any clues?
[04:20] <bob2> dennis__: good question
[04:20] <dennis__> lol
[04:20] <bob2> dennis__: there is a reason people use packages, you know
[04:20] <dennis__> hehe
[04:20] <bob2> one is that it's easy to unbreak things
[04:21] <dennis__> lol
[04:21] <tritium> ouroboros, which package is vncpasswd part of?
[04:21] <bob2> reinstalling linux-restricted-modules might be enough
[04:21] <dennis__> Reinstalling ?
[04:21] <sockpuppe1> is firefox 1
[04:21] <bob2> ouroboros: that's not from ubuntu, right?
[04:21] <cat> !root
[04:21] <ubotu> well, root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[04:21] <ouroboros> tritium: tightvnc....I believe
[04:21] <karen_> help... sudo gtkam shows me thumbs, but when I try to save I get: "could not downlaod 000_1095.jpg from folder /store_00020001" - anyone got a clue?
[04:21] <ouroboros> ubuntu has it in synaptic
[04:21] <kairu0> sockpuppe1, no firefox is 2
[04:21] <bob2> ouroboros: what does "which vncpasswd" print?
[04:22] <sockpuppe1> is firefox 1.0.7 in repos yet?
[04:22] <ouroboros> bob2: /usr/local/bin/vncpasswd
[04:22] <tritium> no, sockpuppe1
[04:22] <dennis__> bob
[04:22] <dennis__> would this woork
[04:22] <sockpuppe1> damn
[04:22] <sockpuppe1> thanks
[04:22] <mindframe> robotgeek, pmount doesnt seem to accept a mount point parameter.  i did pmount /dev/sda1 usb since it asked for a label
[04:22] <dennis__> sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules_2.6.10-5-386 xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:23] <ouroboros> River City Ransom Error: BARF!
[04:23] <mindframe> robotgeek, any idea where it might have mounted it by default?
[04:23] <karen_> im guesing it has to do with the camera only showing up once under lsusb, but that dosn't seem to stop it from offloading the thumbs
[04:23] <memin> bob2 mmm a ran  autogen.sh steel doesn't work
[04:23] <bob2> ouroboros: so, it's not from ubuntu at all then
[04:23] <robotgeek> mindframe: /media
[04:23] <bob2> memin: then you need to talk to whoever wrote iti, it's broken
[04:23] <ouroboros> mmmm...I guess not bob2?
[04:23] <ouroboros> why would they have it avail in synaptic though?
[04:23] <bob2> dennis__: yes
[04:23] <rauble> hmm
[04:23] <dennis__> k
[04:23] <dennis__> thanks
[04:23] <bob2> ouroboros: you did not get that from synaptic
[04:23] <ouroboros> I see
[04:23] <bob2> ouroboros: or, if you did, you got it from a very broken non-ubuntu repository
[04:23] <tritium> ouroboros, ubuntu packages do not install binaries in /usr/local
[04:23] <rauble> hey, i can get online with this Ubuntu release... sweet
[04:23] <karen_> if gphoto2 can get at the images, is there some way I can mount it as a fs so i can copy the imges?
[04:24] <ouroboros> bob2: I did try realvnc before using synaptic to install tightvnc
[04:24] <ouroboros> crep
[04:24] <bob2> karen_: not unless the hardware presents itself as a usb-storage device
[04:25] <dennis__> okay bob2 ...now for my next question....where do I go after I reinstall the restricted modules?
[04:25] <karen_> rats
[04:25] <johndavid> k my nvidia is now working! thank you!
[04:25] <ouroboros> tightvncserver is in synaptic
[04:25] <bob2> dennis__: reboot
[04:25] <ouroboros> and tightvnc-java
[04:25] <dennis__> okay
[04:25] <karen_> bob2, im lucky if it presents itself as a camera
[04:25] <dennis__> Brb
[04:25] <bob2> since you need to unbreak the kernel stuff
[04:25] <ouroboros> also xtightvncviewer
[04:25] <tritium> yes, ouroboros, but you evidently installed from another source
[04:25] <johndavid> next problem, i have added a second hard drive that is windows, i just need to mount this to transfer my docs over to linux
[04:25] <ouroboros> hmm
[04:26] <bob2> johndavid: /msg ubotu ntfs
[04:26] <ouroboros> Well how can I get VNC operating in Hoary?
[04:26] <johndavid>  /msg ubotu ntfs
[04:26] <tritium> no leading space, johndavid
[04:26] <ouroboros> You all have to forgive me, I just climbed back into linux after being in hibernation for about 6 years.
[04:26] <tritium> ouroboros, install an appropriate ubuntu package
[04:27] <tritium> ouroboros, do you need server or client on ubuntu?
[04:27] <ouroboros> I see...well maybe you could recommend a package, tritium? I'm afraid my repositories must be corrupted.
[04:27] <jorock> does anyone have ati drivers working in breezy?
[04:27] <ouroboros> server, tritium - client as well, possibly, to self test I s'pose
[04:27] <_n00blar_> jorock, I do
[04:27] <jorock> did you have to do anything special?
[04:28] <jorock> because I've done everything I can think of and still no accel
[04:28] <tritium> ouroboros, are you aware of System->Preferences->Remote Desktop (vino) ?
[04:28] <_n00blar_> jorock, they weren't working at first, but a couple of patches ago...something got fixed in xorg that got them to work
[04:28] <tritium> ouroboros, also, Applications->Internet->Terminal Server Client ?
[04:28] <tritium> jorock, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:28] <ouroboros> No, tritium, and I am also not aware of my own brain sometimes.
[04:29] <tritium> ouroboros, the first is a server, the second is a client.  Both support vnc
[04:29] <ouroboros> Cheers, tritium!
[04:29] <tritium> And they're both installed by default
[04:29] <tritium> :)
[04:29] <jorock> yeah been through that
[04:30] <P8ntKid> How do i install IMlib2?
[04:30] <jorock> did everything on it
[04:30] <ouroboros> I do see this, tritium, I want to play with vino, how can I change the access command from "vncviewer localhost.localdomain:0"
[04:30] <tritium> P8ntKid, did you search for imlib2 with either synaptic or apt-cache search?
[04:30] <dooglus> what package do I need to get help working in OO.o2?
[04:30] <tritium> ouroboros, I'm not sure what you're referring to...
[04:30] <_n00blar_> jorock, when u do dmesg .... does linux see the ATI card after the driver is loaded?
[04:31] <ouroboros> In vino preferences, it says "Allow other users to view your desktop" (checked now) - then "Allow other users to control your desktop" (checked already) - then there's Users can view your desktop using this command: vncviewer localhost.localdomain:0
[04:31] <jorock> no
[04:32] <ouroboros> tritium - above, sorry
[04:32] <_n00blar_> jorock, and u followed the ATI HowTo instructions?
[04:32] <ouroboros> tritium - shouldn't it be set to my IP?
[04:33] <_n00blar_> jorock, check any error messages in dmesg that may give you a hint as why the drivers won't load
[04:33] <bimberi> ouroboros: you can substitute your PCs IP address for "localhost.localdomain"
[04:33] <tritium> ouroboros, they should use an appropriate IP, but that setting doesn't affect them
[04:33] <jorock> ok lemme go through them again
[04:33] <_n00blar_> jorock, try doing : dmesg | grep ATi
[04:33] <_n00blar_> ATI. that is
[04:34] <jorock> nothing
[04:34] <jorock> ok
[04:34] <jorock> my bad, ati not Ati
[04:34] <likz> is the latest ubuntu download: Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) Preview  ?? im currently downloading this
[04:35] <_n00blar_> jorock, nothing came up?
[04:35] <jorock> _n00blar_:  *ERROR* mtrr allocation failed (-22)
[04:35] <ouroboros> oh crep, tritium: vncviewer: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:35] <ouroboros> using Terminal Server Client
[04:35] <_n00blar_> jorock, that came up as an ATI error message?
[04:36] <tritium> likz, technically, the latest is today's daily image.  breezy is still in development
[04:36] <jorock> yup
[04:36] <tritium> ouroboros, where do you see that?
[04:36] <jorock> the whole error part was : [4294713.031000]  [fglrx:firegl_addmap]  *ERROR* mtrr allocation failed (-22)
[04:36] <jorock> [4295054.527000]  [fglrx:firegl_addmap]  *ERROR* mtrr allocation failed (-22)
[04:36] <ouroboros> Terminal Server Client, tritium - and it's when connecting to myself
[04:37] <ouroboros> by IP address at least
[04:37] <tritium> ouroboros, yes, but where do you see the error?
[04:37] <ouroboros> tritium - pop up window after clicking "connect"
[04:37] <ouroboros> before - same error was for vncserver just from root terminal, tritium
[04:37] <bob2> jorock: are you using a custom kernel?
[04:38] <jorock> no
[04:38] <ouroboros> I don't know what this is all about, not many people have a solution besides downloading those libs, tritium - but they no longer exist
[04:39] <likz> whats diff between 5.10 (breezy badger) and 5.04 hoary?
[04:39] <_n00blar_> jorock, this is the infor I followed: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65276&highlight=ATI+howto
[04:39] <Ainvar> kinda like an upgrade of a new os
[04:39] <Turicas> i want to save a file with my voice (in microfone) and the music that is running in xmms..do i can do it?
[04:39] <Ex-Cyber> is there a one-stop-shop somewhere for troubleshooting X performance problems? everything seems to be redrawing pretty slowly (running Breezy preview atm, but have had similar problems on hoary)
[04:40] <sinned> bob2,  can you help me real quick?
[04:40] <tritium> ouroboros, I'm looking at it
[04:40] <jorock> ok I'll try this
[04:40] <nomasteryoda|w> likz, at the moment, breezy still has some ways to go, but it does look nice and perform well
[04:40] <dabar> likz: this is I think not a good place to ask. This is more for suport with problems. You should I think search the forums, someone may have even made screenshots. Also, the wiki may have articles.
[04:40] <_n00blar_> jorock, what model ATI u have?
[04:40] <nomasteryoda|w> on my lapotps
[04:40] <nomasteryoda|w> laptops
[04:40] <bob2> sinned: if you'd asked your question, you might have an answer by now
[04:40] <qt2> urgh
[04:40] <sinned> lol
[04:40] <sinned> Um well
[04:40] <qt2> i'm about to stab this mouse.
[04:41] <sinned> For some reason ...totem is being an ass
[04:41] <cat> oh i got ubuntu working
[04:41] <sinned> and saying "Resource unvailable"
[04:41] <cat> looks nice
[04:41] <todd_> is there a "snap to window" option in ubuntu?
[04:41] <jorock> 9800 AIW
[04:41] <bob2> sinned: using mplayer is a lot less hassle
[04:41] <dabar> bob2: in regards to ubuntu-offtopic. How off topic can you be? any amount? can you be annoying?
[04:41] <sinned> Hmm
[04:41] <sinned> Well I just found out why totem is gay
[04:41] <sinned> I had to install xine
[04:41] <ouroboros> tritium - someone mentions a fix, but I'm really wary about it: "I got the answer on the RealVNC mailing list about ten days ago, but didn't have time to post back here... I had to add an an 'option' line to the 'options ' section of XF86Config-4 file, e.g.
[04:41] <ouroboros> Code:
[04:41] <ouroboros>  Option "passwordFile" "/root/.vnc/passwd" "
[04:41] <cat> !Hoary
[04:41] <ubotu> hoary is, like, a word that means grey or ancient.  Shakespeare made a joke about it in his play Romeo and Juliet
[04:41] <sinned> Does anyone know what codec I install for .mov files
[04:41] <likz> I meant, I'm downloading 5.10 in hopes that it will work with my wireless card on my laptop, i have ipw2200 which was detected with 5.04, but it wouldnt let me go on the net still
[04:42] <bob2> dabar: if people are really really annoying, i'll remove them
[04:42] <ouroboros> tritium - (cont) - above
[04:42] <cat> sinned: do file something.mov
[04:42] <_n00blar_> sinned, w32codecs
[04:42] <bob2> dabar: ditto abusive/threatening/etc
[04:42] <dabar> ok.
[04:42] <sinned> .mov isn't a w32 codec is it?
[04:42] <qt2> why wont the dame side buttons on this mouse work right?
[04:42] <qt2> well, the side buttons wok fone, but now the top ones dont.
[04:43] <tritium> ouroboros, sorry, don't know what to tell you
[04:43] <ouroboros> tritium - that distro is not mine anyways
[04:43] <Ainvar> speaking of ipw2200 issues I fixed my issue on my dell i6000d
[04:43] <ouroboros> indeed, well what can you do, thx for lookin tritium
[04:43] <goose_boy> excuse me
[04:43] <nomasteryoda|w> likz, any wifi that requires the crappy ndiswrapper and XP drivers is bound to have issues
[04:43] <tritium> ouroboros, you're using hoary?
[04:43] <goose_boy> to install suns java i have to go to the sun website?
[04:43] <cat> goose_boy: yeah
[04:44] <Ainvar> I deleted the /etc/gnome-system-tools/network/profiles.xml file and then redid my wireless connection since even after I deleted all network manager profiles it was still there.
[04:44] <_n00blar_> goose_boy, I think there's an Ubuntu package out there now
[04:44] <ouroboros> tritium - yes
[04:44] <cat> !java
[04:44] <ubotu> To install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java or, for Sun's Java, ask me about !sunjava
[04:44] <thongta> excuse me, i wanna a web hosting control panel software for my ubuntu server
[04:44] <cat> !tell goose_boy about sunjava
[04:44] <ouroboros> tritium - I had this same issue with the first install, doing a different app
[04:44] <thongta> help me plz
[04:44] <cat> yeah there is
[04:44] <cat> thongta: ask
[04:45] <thongta> do you know any software for web hosting control panel?
[04:45] <tritium> ouroboros, I have a feeling the real problem is that you installed your own version of tightvnc either instead of, or over, the ubuntu package
[04:45] <cat> thongta: such as?
[04:45] <thongta> as like as cpanel, plesk?
[04:45] <BlueEagle> thongta: "A web hosting control panel"? What do you need it to do? Set up ftp and apache viritual hosts?
[04:45] <cat> !info cpanel
[04:45] <ubotu> cpanel: (A configuration tool for Chinese desktop environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 90 kB, Installed size: 460 kB
[04:45] <_blake> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths or run configure with --enable-gui=no!
[04:45] <cat> thongta: then get cpanel or plesk
[04:45] <cat> with apt
[04:46] <ouroboros> oh boy, so what would I need to do to resolve this tritium?
[04:46] <thongta> i wanna make my ubuntu server => web hosting
[04:46] <cat> ok
[04:46] <cat> thongta: well apt is you'r friend
[04:46] <cat> cpanel is on the ubuntu mirrors
[04:46] <BlueEagle> thongta: Then install cpanel and read the documentation for it. :)
[04:46] <thongta> cpanel isn't free
[04:46] <cat> well
[04:46] <cat> thongta: do !info cpanel
[04:47] <tritium> ouroboros, uninstall the software you installed, and only use the ubuntu packages, otherwise we can't really help you
[04:47] <BlueEagle> thongta: Who said anything about being free?
[04:47] <thongta> !info cpanel
[04:47] <ubotu> cpanel: (A configuration tool for Chinese desktop environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 90 kB, Installed size: 460 kB
[04:47] <cat> u see
[04:47] <Ex-Cyber> geez, seems like every distro I try has to be broken in some annoying way... I guess slow redraws is preferable to portage hell though
[04:47] <cat> is on the ubuntus mirrors
[04:47] <nathan_> woot!  Now have flash running on my AMD64 - breezy box :)
[04:47] <ouroboros> tritium - what initially happened was realvnc installed into the /usr - so would I have to manually delete those files and then reinstall vnc through synaptic?
[04:47] <thongta> i'm a newbie, plz help me step by step
[04:47] <BlueEagle> cat: "Chinese desktop environment" doesn't sound right to me btw.
[04:48] <unkn0wn2u> nathan_, you want shockwave?
[04:48] <tritium> _blake, did you install any X development packages so as to have the headers?
[04:48] <bob2> cat: it's a different program which is also called cpanel
[04:48] <thongta> or simple, tell me name of some software
[04:48] <tritium> ouroboros, in /usr/local?  Yes, I'd do as you asked
[04:48] <nathan_> unkn0wn2u, yeah, that would be good
[04:48] <ghostdog> how can i run winhq ?
[04:48] <_blake> tritium: how about x protocol development files?
[04:48] <_blake> i think i got it
[04:48] <nathan_> but just flash is a really nice sstart :)
[04:48] <thongta> cat: help me plz
[04:49] <tritium> _blake, probably libx11-dev
[04:49] <bob2> _blake: xlibs-dev
[04:49] <tritium> ah, thanks, bob2
[04:49] <thongta> cat: wo r u? plz help me if u can
[04:50] <ghostdog> how can i run winhq in ubuntu?
[04:50] <tritium> ghostdog, please don't repeat
[04:50] <ouroboros> sigh, thanks tritium
[04:50] <ghostdog> sorry
[04:50] <tritium> If you mean wine from winehq.com, there are instructions on their website.
[04:50] <nathan_> unkn0wn2u, is there a shockwave player available for linux at all?
[04:50] <thongta> cat: plz help me
[04:50] <nalioth> nathan_: not yet
[04:50] <cat> thongta, ?
[04:50] <thongta> about my problem
[04:51] <nathan_> I didn't think so
[04:51] <cat> thongta, did u do apt-get?
[04:51] <thongta> cat: i did
[04:51] <Ex-Cyber> can anyone recommend a graphics card/chipset that has good performance in Ubuntu and doesn't require proprietary drivers for accelerated 3D? (I'm not a hardcore gamer, so to me "good performance" means "Quake 3 runs smoothly")
[04:51] <cat> and what happend?
[04:52] <thongta> cat: i wanna install web hosting control panel on my ubuntu server as Cpanel, Plesk on Linux or Helm on Windows
[04:52] <nathan_> Ex-Cyber, some of the older ATI cards had decent DRI driver support
[04:53] <Ex-Cyber> nathan_: define "older". I'm running a Radeon 8500 now and redraws are slow enough to be disruptive
[04:53] <cat> !info aterm
[04:53] <ubotu> aterm: (Afterstep XVT - a VT102 emulator for the X window system), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-10 (hoary), Packaged size: 90 kB, Installed size: 276 kB
[04:53] <cat> !info aterm hoary
[04:53] <ubotu> aterm: (Afterstep XVT - a VT102 emulator for the X window system), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.2-10 (hoary), Packaged size: 90 kB, Installed size: 276 kB
[04:53] <karen_> how do I redirect stderr to stdout?
[04:54] <BlueEagle> cat: Aterm does not support utf-8 afaik.
[04:54] <thongta> !info cpanel
[04:54] <ubotu> cpanel: (A configuration tool for Chinese desktop environment), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.4.0-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 90 kB, Installed size: 460 kB
[04:54] <karen_>  1>2& or 2>%1 or x>yx....
[04:54] <thongta> !info plesk
[04:54] <cat> BlueEagle, i can't see it with apt-cache search aterm
[04:54] <thongta> cat: help me
[04:55] <nathan_> Ex-Cyber, apparently the radeons up to the 9200 were had their secs released to the DRI project.  My original radeon wasn't too bad for a card of the time.  But I've been using a GeForce 4 for a while now
[04:55] <BlueEagle> cat: It is (or was when I installed it) in the universe repos.
[04:55] <cat> ok found it
[04:55] <nathan_> specs == specs
[04:55] <nathan_> secs == specs, even
[04:55] <BlueEagle> hirr
[04:56] <Ex-Cyber> nathan_: in any case Ubuntu doesn't seem to like my card, which supposedly has good 2D support
[04:56] <Ex-Cyber> I was thinking about replacing it, but I guess there aren't really many other options besides R2xx
[04:57] <johnnybezak> hey guys i've got a sound problem. my sounds working and fine, but the bottom end (bass) is *really* distorted. any ideas of a fix?
[04:57] <ouroboros> tritium - eureka! worked like a charm
[04:57] <nathan_> hmm... Sorry Ex-Cyber, can't help then :(
[04:57] <tritium> ouroboros, hmm?
[04:57] <ouroboros> tritium - both Term serv and vino work wonderfully! full cheers
[04:57] <goose_boy> hey how do you run the kde setup wizard again
[04:57] <thongta> Who is ever master of a web hosting?
[04:57] <tritium> ouroboros, after removing from /usr/loca/bin and reinstalling the ubuntu packages?
[04:57] <ouroboros> tritium - just had to delete those jerky vncfiles in /usr, then reinstalled the ubuntu packages off the CD - voila
[04:58] <tritium> nice, ouroboros
[04:58] <ouroboros> tritium - the honor is yours man
[04:58] <Ex-Cyber> it seems like a handful of people have "this problem" (i.e. slow redraws) but the actual underlying problem always seems to be different, and proprietary drivers are involved for most of them
[04:58] <Ex-Cyber> so I don't really know where to go from here
[04:58] <tritium> ouroboros, no, you did well :)
[04:58] <thongta> web hosting control panel, i need help, who can help me?
[04:58] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: if you're after a decent card for Linux, nvidia is really your only option these days if you also want decent 3D.
[04:58] <unkn0wn2u> Ex-Cyber, buy an nvidia card because they have better support
[04:58] <bobby> nvidia for the win :D
[04:58] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: I think that depends on what you mean by "decent"
[04:59] <godzero> Ex-Xyber: my 9200 does well, just don't get the "se" version
[04:59] <Ex-Cyber> I don't need to run Doom 3
[04:59] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: By decent I mean not half the speed of windows 3D.
[04:59] <cafuego_> godzero: The 9200SE in the mac mini runs fine.
[04:59] <thongta> fuk
[04:59] <thongta> fuck
[04:59] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: and also not "limited for use on i386"
[04:59] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: I don't notice much of a problem with 3D with this card, just 2D
[04:59] <tritium> hey, stop that, thongta
[04:59] <thongta> i need help
[04:59] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: huh?
[05:00] <thongta> and noone help me
[05:00] <Turicas> thongta, whats the question?
[05:00] <cat> about cpane
[05:00] <cat> l
[05:00] <ouroboros> For ATI All in Wonder Pro 128 (Rage128) - should I use this to get direct rendering enabled : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:00] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: fglrx is apparently crap on amd64. No idea if it even COMPILES on ppc.
[05:00] <thongta> i wanna install web hosting control panel on my ubuntu server
[05:00] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: I'm not using fglrx, and don't intend to
[05:00] <godzero> runs fine, ya.. but fill rates are slow.. just barely meets the q3 test he mentioned
[05:00] <ouroboros> I have an AMD64 as well.
[05:00] <ouroboros> Cripes.
[05:00] <thongta> do you know any software?
[05:00] <tritium> thongta, maybe nobody answered because nobody has an answer for you
[05:01] <Ex-Cyber> I want a card with DRI Project drivers, even if that means I don't get to run the latest whiz-bang id engine
[05:01] <thongta> :((
[05:01] <Ex-Cyber> which is part of the reason that I haven't swapped this one out for so long
[05:01] <unkn0wn2u> thongta, what do you mean web hosting ........web hosting like apache server or what
[05:01] <Ex-Cyber> 3D performance is not an issue for me with my current card
[05:01] <ouroboros> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto - not for AMD64??
[05:01] <Ex-Cyber> but apparently there are 2D problems
[05:02] <thongta> oh no, as such as Cpanel or Pleask
[05:02] <cafuego_> ouroboros: I think fglrx does run on amd64 thesedays, I just don't know how well.
[05:02] <thongta> of course web server is apache2
[05:02] <nathan_> Ex-Cyber, is it an ideaological issue with binary drivers, or do you have technical issues with them?
[05:03] <ouroboros> thanks, cafuego_ - any second opinions on AMD64 + https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto - for ATI All in Wonder Pro 128 (Ancient) ?
[05:03] <thongta> hic, nobody can help me
[05:03] <cafuego_> ouroboros: Buy a cheep nvidia card
[05:03] <unkn0wn2u> thongta, then buy it
[05:03] <Ex-Cyber> nathan_: both
[05:03] <thongta> :(, i want free
[05:03] <ouroboros> right, cafuego_ I'm saving for my SLI cards
[05:03] <unkn0wn2u> thongta, it costs money
[05:04] <cafuego_> ouroboros: Does the all in wonder even DO hw 3d?
[05:04] <johndavid> im  trying to play some audio files and i get this error.. OSS device "/dev/dsp" is already in use by another program
[05:04] <ouroboros> cafuego_ - yes.
[05:04] <johndavid> how can i fix that?
[05:04] <unkn0wn2u> webmin maybe
[05:04] <cafuego_> Learning PHP and perl is free, you could WRITE one and GPL it
[05:04] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: WHich card is it?
[05:05] <nathan_> johndavid, what are you trying to play them with?
[05:05] <johndavid> totem
[05:05] <_blake> anyone know where to find a deb pkg for unixODBC?  it is required for this market analysis program im trying to compile
[05:05] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: Radeon 8500 (apparently an 8500LE, whatever that means)
[05:05] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: Light Edition perhaps :-) Or Limited.
[05:05] <Ex-Cyber> probably
[05:05] <Ex-Cyber> anyway I don't see why it should make 2D slow enough that I notice
[05:06] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: I've only ever played with a 7500 and 9200, both of which seem to work fine under xorg with the free driver.
[05:06] <tritium> ouroboros, the fglrx does not support Rage 128.  You need the generic xorg ati driver (no 3d).
[05:06] <nathan_> johndavid, sorry, not really my specialty.  I'm more a KDE person
[05:06] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: Do you have UseFBDev enabled?
[05:06] <Ex-Cyber> I think this particular stepping or whatever might have issues
[05:06] <johndavid> think KDE would run faster than gnome?
[05:06] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: no idea; what is that setting for?
[05:06] <ouroboros> tritium - there's no way to enable All in Wonder Pro's 3D? I thought you could do that somewhere
[05:06] <Ex-Cyber> johndavid: that has been reported by several people with slow redrawing in gnome
[05:06] <unkn0wn2u> johndavid, i think so but ice is fastest
[05:07] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: It tells X to keep in mind the console is a framebuffer and does some backend stuff, might be worth checking (in /etc/X11/xorg.conf)
[05:07] <johndavid> k
[05:07] <johndavid> whats the command to install Kubuntu?
[05:07] <johndavid> il lgive that a whirl
[05:07] <TokenBad> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:07] <TokenBad> I think
[05:07] <cafuego_> ouroboros: Maybe using the gatos ati.2 driver, which would bring PAIN and SUFFERING.
[05:07] <khermans> anyone see that Napoleon Dynamite and Bill Gates movie?
[05:07] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: well, that string isn't there at all
[05:07] <mindmedic> johndavid, try searching for kubuntu in synapitc
[05:08] <nathan_> johndavid, lol.. that's a pretty extreme fix.  but if you want to, it's "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[05:08] <tritium> ouroboros, what cafuego said
[05:08] <cafuego_> ouroboros: I doubt you'd get performance anywhere NEAR pure software 3d, so don't bother.
[05:08] <khermans> I am trying to view it, but it is WMV9!!!
[05:08] <_blake> im running KDE in ubuntu
[05:08] <_blake> I love it
[05:08] <khermans> Gates/Napoleon Dynamite
[05:08] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: nor does it show up in /var/log/Xorg.log.0
[05:08] <esac> i was a big kde fan, but im really liking gnome
[05:08] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: Ok, not enabled then :-)
[05:08] <unkn0wn2u> khermans, mplayer does
[05:08] <johndavid> k, that wont mess up my nvidia drivers or anything huh?
[05:08] <khermans> unkn0wn2u, with w32codecs?
[05:08] <_blake> was a big gnome fan, but kde is much prettier out of the box
[05:08] <unkn0wn2u> khermans, do you have a link to the movie
[05:09] <_blake> and my pc can handle it, so its all gravy
[05:09] <khermans> is thee a mpg version out there?
[05:09] <tritium> _blake, it's all a matter of personal preference.
[05:09] <ouroboros> tritium and cafuego_ - the concept is that cedega installs require certain acceptable 3d video - if I can't enable direct rendering, then I'm assuming the games won't play
[05:09] <esac> updating my system. yesterday it broke udev, lets hope everything is ok today
[05:09] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: it's weird, I'm coming from Gentoo, where I didn't have this problem (of course I did have other problems, which is why I dumped it)
[05:09] <khermans> unkn0wn2u, i downloaded it, but the quality is crap
[05:09] <_blake> tritium, absolutely
[05:09] <nathan_> johndavid, it shouldn't.  It didn't for me.  Although I did have some issues with kdm, so I've switched back to gdm
[05:09] <ouroboros> tritium and cafuego_ - https://wiki.ubuntu.com//HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCards
[05:09] <_blake> there are die-hard fans on both sides
[05:09] <khermans> unkn0wn2u, you have a better link?
[05:09] <unkn0wn2u> khermans oh i thought you couldn't play it
[05:09] <unkn0wn2u> no
[05:09] <khermans> i cant
[05:09] <ouroboros> tritium and cafuego_ - that link seems to claim Rage128Pro is acceptable
[05:10] <unkn0wn2u> khermans, why did you say the quality was crap ........
[05:10] <cafuego_> ouroboros: No, if the games support it you can use the software (mesa) renderer too.
[05:10] <nathan_> Definitely a KDE fan here :)
[05:10] <Ex-Cyber> in the past I have had a couple odd spells of bad performance though, so I'm wondering if there's some quirk in my mobo or videocard (both of which somehow seem to be products that don't officially exist) that is causing it
[05:10] <ouroboros> Rather All in Wonder, my bad cafuego_ and tritium
[05:10] <khermans> unkn0wn2u, according to the newsgroup i found it on
[05:10] <ouroboros> cafuego_ I see...ok, was just worried
[05:10] <user10> chem2x
[05:10] <cafuego_> ouroboros: You will get DYSMAL performance on that card though, so I think you'd be wasting your time anyway.
[05:11] <unkn0wn2u> khermans, will you give me a link so I can see if i can play it atleast
[05:11] <cafuego_> KDE fans? Aren'
[05:11] <user10> sdfgdfgftyhghtyi
[05:11] <khermans> http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2679657?htv=12
[05:11] <khermans> fails in Firefox
[05:11] <cafuego_> t we supposed to throw those in the Put Of #Kubuntu?
[05:11] <Ex-Cyber> also I get a rare (by which I mean that few people experience it; it reproduces quite reliably) DRI lockup problem
[05:11] <cafuego_> Pit even
[05:11] <esac> why is it that linux STILL isn't as good as windows is when it comes to automatically setting up the network? dns, wins, wireless configuration, switching between work and home ?
[05:12] <Ex-Cyber> so you can probably see why my thoughts wander toward swapping out components even though the ones I have are supposed to be fine... heh
[05:12] <tritium> esac, linux does a better job for me...
[05:12] <cafuego_> esac: because people complain about it, rather then supplying patches and software to fix it.
[05:12] <Ex-Cyber> esac: for wireless, only because manufacturers bend over backwards to support Windows and have legal/technical problems with doing open-source drivers
[05:12] <SandBrt`jktb> hi all..
[05:12] <hyphenated> esac: agreed. the people it affects are the ones that are too busy to fix it
[05:12] <cafuego_> esac: That wastes everyone's time, so nothing gets done.
[05:13] <ckrueger> ok, i'm a new ubuntu user
[05:13] <_blake> because there is no money in linux
[05:13] <_blake> what drives corporate america?
[05:13] <_blake> $$$
[05:13] <tritium> congratulations, ckrueger
[05:13] <unkn0wn2u> esac, ever hear of dhcp
[05:13] <ckrueger> i was running gentoo all-around, but decided to get rid of it on my office box (here) because i got sick of compiling every last damned thing
[05:13] <LoKi_> trying to load ppp modules, but I get ppp_generic: version magic '2.6.8.1 preempt PENTIUM4 gcc-3.3' should be '2.6.8.1
[05:13] <LoKi_>  preempt PENTIUM4 gcc-2.95'
[05:13] <cafuego_> _blake: Who cares about corporate america?
[05:13] <ckrueger> and then i went to SuSE...  which is far too much handholding
[05:13] <esac> cafuego_: it seems odd that you have the opinion that everybody who runs linux is a developer. what if i simply cant patch it and all i can do is test and complain ?
[05:13] <ckrueger> and the community sucks
[05:13] <tritium> stock holders, I would presume
[05:13] <ckrueger> so now i'm at ubuntu
[05:13] <ckrueger> but i'm havin an issue
[05:13] <nathan_> esac, kwifi manager is pretty darn good at switching networks
[05:13] <cafuego_> LoKi_: Recompile the module with the right gcc (2.95)
[05:14] <nomasteryoda|w> cafuego, the patent office of the US
[05:14] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[05:14] <ckrueger> by default, gnome-volume manager doesn't seem to work
[05:14] <cafuego_> ckrueger: just ask the question.
[05:14] <ckrueger> cafuego_, my life story is more fun :)
[05:14] <cafuego_> nomasteryoda|w: Yeah, all irrelevant
[05:14] <esac> unkn0wn2u: every dhcp client ive tried couldn't handle multiple dns suffix search orders coming from the dhcp server
[05:14] <ckrueger> it doesn't detect CDs when put in
[05:14] <khermans> how can i get w32codecs in Breezy???
[05:14] <ckrueger> i set it to automatically mount removable media when inserted
[05:14] <pc22> !tell pc22 about samba
[05:15] <esac> nathan_: maybe i should try that, the one in gnome isn't that great. and why does it not support WAP very easily like windows ?
 _blake: Who cares about corporate america?
[05:15] <_blake> what kind of question is that?
[05:15] <khermans> anyone using w32codecs in Breezy?
[05:15] <ckrueger> anyone good at getting gnome-volume-manager to work?
[05:15] <unkn0wn2u> khermans, go to mplayerhq
[05:15] <nathan_> esac LOL! support WAP "easily" like widows!
[05:16] <khermans> unkn0wn2u, yeah but i want them [prepackaged
[05:16] <unkn0wn2u> khermans, lazy
[05:16] <khermans> unkn0wn2u, there is no repo?
[05:16] <khermans> unkn0wn2u, everyone who uses Ubuntu is lazy
[05:16] <khermans> its called automation
[05:16] <unkn0wn2u> khermans, there is a repo
[05:16] <khermans> ?
[05:16] <esac> nathan_: ive never had an issue with WAP in windows
[05:16] <esac> err WPA
[05:16] <esac> typo'd twice
[05:16] <Phuzion> Is it possible to set up a section of my hard drive as a Windows compatible file server?
[05:16] <ckrueger> cafuego_, since you seemed to hear me...  do you know anything about gnome-volume-manager?
[05:16] <boxerboy29> is it really worht the 100+ extra dollars you spend on winblows to save you 30 mins worth of work?
[05:17] <robbkidd> khermans: He means you should add the mplayerhq repo to your sources.list.
[05:17] <esac> of course i have an excuse, i actually had dyslexia as a kid
[05:17] <khermans> robbkidd, ahh i c
[05:17] <ckrueger> cafuego_, it works beautifully under all my gentoo machines, but ubuntu doesn't seem to like it
[05:17] <Zugwrack> Anyone in this channel from around Sacramento, CA?
[05:17] <khermans> robbkidd, you know what the addy is?
[05:17] <robbkidd> khermans: I just wgot then dpkg -i'd it. (Can you past-tense commands like that?)
[05:18] <robbkidd> kherman: Yuh, standy ...
[05:18] <khermans> hehe
[05:18] <nathan_> esac... I'm a Mac user, so "easy WPA setup in windows" makes no sense to me.  But in answer to your question, I think it's probably a bit easier than windows, actually
[05:18] <esac> boxerboy29: windows came with the laptop, it was included in the cost, i COULDNT get it without it. (yes that is a crime in and of itself). but since i already paid for it, its not costing me any extra to install windows and save me that 30 minutes
[05:18] <Ex-Cyber> where can I find a summary of the status of render support for various chipsets?
[05:18] <Phuzion> Is it possible to set up a section of my hard drive as a Windows compatible file server?
[05:19] <unkn0wn2u> Phuzion, samba?
[05:19] <esac> Phuzion: you'll have to clarify what you want. yes you can always partition your hard drive. you can run samba and set it up to share files off that partition.
[05:19] <Phuzion> esac, would that make it look like a shared folder in XP?
[05:19] <esac> Phuzion: yes
[05:20] <Phuzion> Awesome.
[05:20] <Phuzion> Thanks
[05:20] <ilpavox> what is drm listed under in xconfig? it is crashing my compile
[05:21] <esac> anybody have a sony vaio laptop, and have they gotten the extra keys working in gnome like volume up/down and the "ultra bright" mode ?
[05:22] <khermans> unkn0wn2u, where do the w32codecs go in Breezy?  what directory?
[05:22] <nalioth> khermans: i have a deb of w32codecs that does it for you
[05:22] <nathan_> Anyone know what the gnome wifi manager is called?  I'm trying to do a compare and contrast
[05:22] <khermans> nalioth, recent one?
[05:22] <nalioth> khermans: otw, they go in /usr/local/lib/codecs/
[05:22] <khermans> thx, send it?
[05:23] <boxerboy29> i got them from seveas site but i dont have it anymore sorry
[05:23] <seth_k> nathan_, it will be called NetworkManager in Breezy
[05:23] <robbkidd> kherman: Er, okay.  I don't have it.  But I swear the following works: wget ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb && dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[05:23] <unkn0wn2u> /usr/lib/win32
[05:23] <caliber> Hey all, is there something like dselect for X?
[05:23] <nalioth> khermans: on the mplayerhq.hu site they recommand the location i sent
[05:23] <nalioth> khermans: http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[05:23] <nathan_> seth_k, I'm running KDE.  I need the actual command name, I think
[05:24] <robbkidd> caliber: In Ubuntu's Gnome: System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[05:24] <caliber> ahh, synaptic!
[05:24] <caliber> i knew it..
[05:24] <caliber> thanks robbkidd
[05:24] <robbkidd> caliber: N'problem.
[05:25] <khermans> robbkidd, thx dude
[05:25] <robbkidd> khermans: Y'welcome.
[05:25] <khermans> nalioth, cant wait for torrent -- got it from robbkid
[05:25] <nathan_> esac, if the gnome network manager is gnome-nettool, kwifimanager beats it in so many ways that it's not funny
[05:26] <ritalin> hallo
[05:26] <pc22> does samba matter on dhcp network?
[05:26] <ritalin> is their a way to pick and choose what i install from the installer?
[05:26] <robbkidd> pc22: Concentrate and ask again.
[05:27] <tritium> ritalin, a server install installs a bare minimum.  After installation, you can add those packages you want.
[05:27] <ritalin> ty
[05:27] <boxerboy29> ritalin: if you use synaptic you can choose what you want
[05:27] <ritalin> well im gonna give ubuntu a try
[05:27] <caliber> amd64 :)
[05:27] <ritalin> looks nice
[05:27] <ritalin> and im sick of compling
[05:27] <SiRrUs> good evening
[05:28] <pc22> im been trying to configure my samba. its talking abt ipaddress. im confused cos as i thought my pc's ip change evrytime i reboot
[05:28] <robbkidd> ritalin: I'm a happy Ubuntu convert from standard Debian. (Still have Debian on my servers, though.)
[05:28] <ritalin> I currently run freebsd and gentoo
[05:29] <ritalin> gentoo as desktop
[05:29] <ritalin> downloading breezy preview iso now
[05:29] <unkn0wn2u> pc22, make your ip static
[05:29] <pc22> ok
[05:30] <_blake> im about to buy a win2k machine
[05:30] <_blake> !!!!
[05:30] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, _blake
[05:30] <_blake> haha
[05:30] <_blake> i need photoshop....  :(
[05:31] <pc22> i though dhcp is good in network
[05:31] <tritium> try gimp
[05:31] <_blake> gimp cant fulfill my fantasies
[05:31] <cafuego_> Gimp works fine for RGB.
[05:31] <IcemanV9> ritalin: and fbsd for servers??
[05:31] <robbkidd> pc22: It's good for desktops. For servers, not so much.
[05:31] <Ex-Cyber> is ECS hardware okay or is it cheap for a reason? :P
[05:31] <ritalin> IcemanV9: yes
[05:31] <karen_> arg... I hit "burn to disk" and keep getting "please insert a disk with 671MiB free" which is in there, so I hit ok, and the dialog comes right back
[05:31] <karen_> yes, it is a 700mb blank
[05:31] <ritalin> although im not liking the new 6.0 branch of fbsd
[05:31] <ritalin> they are getty sloppy
[05:31] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: All cheap hardware is cheap for a reason.
[05:32] <nathan_> _blake, you can also try krita.  It's a bit more like photoshop in it's interface then The Gimp and supports multiple colourspaces
[05:32] <ritalin> then again its still beta
[05:32] <unkn0wn2u> pc22, dhcp is good if you don't like work so you can either use a wins server or set static
[05:32] <IcemanV9> ritalin: ha. 6.0 DO have my wireless card (ath0) up and running w/o a problem
[05:32] <pc22> how do i do wins server?
[05:32] <_blake> nathan, thx ill check it out
[05:32] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: I guess I should say "cheap because it's unreliable junk", considering that labor costs is probably a lot of the difference in many cases
[05:33] <robbkidd> pc22: How much of the SAMBA docs have you read?
[05:33] <IcemanV9> ritalin: 5.4 doesn't work .. i have no patience to wait for ath0 driver to be ported to older version
[05:33] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: Well, there's cheap unrelaibale junk and expensive unreliable junk, but NOT much cheap reliable junk.
[05:33] <ritalin> IcemanV9: yeah, 6.0 was like the wifi release
[05:33] <Ex-Cyber> cafuego: :)
[05:33] <ritalin> so many improvements to that area
[05:33] <robbkidd> IRC is fine for troubleshooting, but regurgitating documentation here doesn't help anyone.
[05:33] <pc22> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SettingUpSamba
[05:33] <cafuego_> Ex-Cyber: it's usually a matter of how cheap and how unreliable
[05:33] <IcemanV9> ritalin: ubuntu rocks as desktop .. i didn't have to compile so many apps!
[05:34] <ritalin> IcemanV9: btw you know of anything like jails for linux?
[05:34] <ritalin> besides chrooting of course
[05:34] <_blake> jesus, has anyone compiled ODBC before?
[05:34] <IcemanV9> ritalin: unforunately, no. it is on my "todo" list to learn a few things
[05:34] <pc22> unkn0wn2u, at least i want my pcs to be able to save my ubuntu pc
[05:34] <IcemanV9> chroot is another :)
[05:34] <pc22> unkn0wn2u, at least i want my pcs to be able to save to my ubuntu pc
[05:35] <unkn0wn2u> pc22, network neighborhood finds my linux box as long i'm in the same workgroup
[05:35] <robbkidd> Gor, crikey.  That's a whirlwind configuration.
[05:35] <ritalin> Yeah jails is fbsd's best feature imho
[05:35] <IcemanV9> yeah. heard about it so many times. wonder why i did not take time to learn about it. guess i did not need it for my situation.
[05:36] <unkn0wn2u> pc22, quit being a freak just click on network neighborhood on winblows and see what the workgroup is then setup linux to be on the same workgroup or setup a static ip
[05:36] <ritalin> They are porting dtrace also, will be in 7.0
[05:36] <_blake> what is jail?
[05:36] <ritalin> _blake: a virtual system inside freebsd
[05:36] <unkn0wn2u> chroot jail
[05:36] <ritalin> to restrict a proces
[05:37] <tritium> ritalin, you can setup a chroot in ubuntu
[05:37] <robbkidd> _blake: One of the corner spots on the Monopoly board?
[05:37] <_blake> yep, i was waiting for that one
[05:37] <ritalin> tritium: I know but its not as pretty as jails :)
[05:37] <_blake> i like to just visit though
[05:37] <pc22> unkn0wn2u, i can see but to be able to access inside. i cant
[05:38] <unkn0wn2u> pc22, inside what?
[05:38] <pc22> asknf for user and password and i tried it all and wont all me
[05:38] <carrett> hi, in debian i had a menu option when right-clicking on the desktop to open a new terminal...is there any way to get it in ubuntu?
[05:38] <unkn0wn2u> pc22, add users to samba
[05:38] <pc22> how is that
[05:38] <cat> carrett: yeah
[05:38] <carrett> cat: how?
[05:38] <_blake> anyone have a time record on program compiling?
[05:38] <tensor> pc22: useradd a user then smbpasswd -a that user
[05:38] <bobby> carrett, are you using gnome?
[05:38] <cat> carrett: click on applications on gnome and then system tools it should be there
[05:38] <unkn0wn2u> smbpasswd -a username
[05:39] <tensor> pc22: use that to logon from a windows machine to a samba share
[05:39] <bobby> carrett, I still have that option in gnome under ubuntu
[05:39] <unkn0wn2u> sudo smbpasswd -a username yes
[05:39] <carrett> cat: no, i mean to get the menu option when i right click on the desktop
[05:39] <carrett> bobby: really? i'm in gnome...nothing there
[05:39] <cat> carrett: oh not sure
[05:39] <bobby> carrett, I'm using ubuntu 5.04 on this server and I know it is there inn 4.10
[05:39] <cat> carrett: right click
[05:39] <bobby> this is a default install :|
[05:40] <cat> it should be the first option
[05:40] <x[BrB] x> can i set my open office to save all my files on a certain folder on my desktop??
[05:40] <carrett> bobby: i'm on breezy...i guess they got rid of it?
[05:40] <cat> on gnome
[05:40] <robbkidd> pc22: Check the "Configuring your computer as a server" section at the Wiki entry you quoted.  There's a bit at the end of that section that talks about creating Samba users.
[05:40] <unkn0wn2u> pc22, go to configuring your computer as a server at that wiki link dont just read the first half of the wiki
[05:40] <carrett> cat: yeah, it should be...but it's not showing up for some reason
[05:40] <esac> has anybody ever tried laptop-net ?
[05:40] <bobby> carrett, ah that is gnome 2.12, haven't tried that
[05:40] <pc22> ok
[05:40] <pc22> thanks
[05:40] <carrett> bobby: guess they got rid of the option in 2.12...sucks. i liked it
[05:40] <bobby> carrett, I wont move to 2.12 if it isn't able to be restored :|
[05:41] <bobby> I did protest when they were talking about removing it
[05:41] <IcemanV9> carrett: it's not there anymore
[05:41] <ritalin> gnome 2.12 rules!
[05:41] <robbkidd> carrett: Could just put a launcher for the terminal in the panel, non?
[05:41] <Turicas> what lines i have to put in sources.list for apt download files from marillat?
[05:41] <x[BrB] x> can i set my open office to save all my files on a certain folder on my desktop??
[05:41] <ritalin> its great!
[05:41] <ghostdog> how do i install my internal modem
[05:42] <cat> ghostdog: do apt-get install modconf and check on modconf if you'r modem is there
[05:42] <IcemanV9> robbkidd: you can check out 5.10 preview livecd :)
[05:42] <r0bnyc> i just finish installing ubuntu and im trying to install mc but it said it cant find it
[05:42] <robbkidd> icemanv9: Ooh. That thingie.
[05:43] <tritium> ghostdog, or just lsmod to look for it
[05:43] <esac> how do i modify the menu in gnome ?
[05:43] <robbkidd> icemanv9: Thought we were talking about an IRC thing.  Yuh, that's neat.  Where does that information show up?
[05:43] <cat> esac: right click on the menu
[05:44] <ritalin> Beagle in the breezy preview?
[05:44] <IcemanV9> robbkidd: gdm
[05:44] <esac> cat ah thanks, i was right clicking with the menu expanded like windows :(
[05:44] <esac> yeah whatever happend to beagle
[05:44] <ritalin> beagle looks nice
[05:44] <IcemanV9> robbkidd: i believe evolution, too?? not sure
[05:44] <esac> also by default my sound device is ESD .. isn't ALSA better ?
[05:44] <ritalin> never actually used it
[05:44] <ritalin> kinda like apples spotlight
[05:45] <cfh_dev> Is there an ubuntu package for the zaptel kernel module?
[05:45] <cat> oh ok =)
[05:45] <robbkidd> Beagle's in there with big caveats about betaness.
[05:45] <grabbies200> i am trying to install ubuntu on zv6000. the problem i have is with eth0 it has probleme using the dhcp of my router and if i configure manually still does not comunicate with the router, any idea??
[05:45] <robbkidd> icemanv9: Ooo.
[05:45] <tritium> cfh_dev, I see a package named zaptel-source
[05:45] <cfh_dev> tritium, yeah but you have to compile it and that's a bitch
[05:46] <tritium> it's not that bad, cfh_dev
[05:46] <cfh_dev> tritium, can you help me through it?  I'm stuck with a compile error.
[05:46] <ritalin> Is there a way to browse ubuntu's packages from the web?
[05:46] <tritium> ritalin, packages.ubuntu.com
[05:46] <ritalin> danke
[05:46] <tritium> robbkidd, not all are
[05:47] <tritium> cfh_dev, not at the moment, sorry
[05:47] <tritium> cfh_dev, what's the error?
[05:47] <cfh_dev>  SUBDIRS=/usr/src/modules/zaptel: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[05:48] <caliber> I'm having an extremely odd problem.. I just installed kubuntu amd64, and I go to system -> kynaptic, and it comes up "KDE su" and wants me to put in the root passwd to su to root, but it keeps telling me the password is wrong? Yet, I open a terminal and SU perfectly fine!
[05:48] <robbkidd> Having discovered Amarok, I'm disappointed that it's a KDE app.  Works well enough, but were it tightly integrated with GNOME, I'd be even happier.
[05:48] <tritium> cfh_dev, did you unpack the source package?
[05:48] <cfh_dev> didn't have to, it came from synaptic already unpacked
[05:48] <robbkidd> calider: It wants YOUR password, not root's.
[05:48] <robbkidd> Whoop.
[05:48] <robbkidd> SU. Not SUDO.
[05:48] <caliber> gah! if thats true..
[05:49] <tritium> cfh_dev, I think it's only a tar.gz in /usr/src
[05:49] <cfh_dev> tritium, it's already unpacked in /usr/src/modules/zaptel
[05:49] <robbkidd> caliber: No no. I think I was wrong.  If it's *SU*, you're correct.
[05:49] <NilXu> ritalin: are you from Northern Kentucky area?
[05:49] <tritium> cfh_dev, if you're sure...
[05:49] <cfh_dev> tritium, yep.  lot's of .c and .h files
[05:49] <caliber> yeah this isnt going either.
[05:49] <caliber> this is messed up.
[05:50] <robbkidd> caliber: Ubuntu's GNOME admin utilities use *sudo* which asks for the user's password.
[05:50] <caliber> let me try somewthing, brb.. thanks
[05:50] <cfh_dev> tritium, someone on the * channel suggested I compile from cvs
[05:50] <tritium> cfh_dev, zaptel-source with module-assistant would be much easier, I would think.  Are you using module-assistant?
[05:50] <ritalin> NilXu: im from jeffersonville IN
[05:50] <ritalin> why?
[05:51] <cfh_dev> tritium, I don't think so.  What would I do to use it?
[05:51] <tritium> cfh_dev, best bet is to read the docs in /usr/share/doc/module-assistant
[05:51] <r0bnyc> i just finish installing ubuntu and im trying to install mc but it said it cant find it
[05:51] <NilXu> ritalin: were on the same node from insight and i was going to ask if you new about any LUGs around here
[05:51] <tritium> cfh_dev: also, /usr/share/doc/zaptel-source should have info on how to compile it using module-assistant (it's a dependency)
[05:51] <ritalin> NilXu: ah
[05:52] <cfh_dev> tritium, I'll check it out, thanks
[05:52] <tritium> good luck
[05:52] <robbkidd> r0bnyc: Have you "enabled" the Universe respository?
[05:52] <NilXu> ritalin: where is jeffersonville?
[05:52] <r0bnyc> robbkidd, no im just using the default settings right now
[05:52] <tritium> that's why, r0bby
[05:52] <tritium> r0bnyc,
[05:52] <lrv> Has any one abandoned synaptic in favor of the ./configure method?
[05:52] <NilXu> ritalin: near louisville, ky?
[05:53] <tritium> lrv, not advised when ubuntu packages exist
[05:53] <r0bnyc> so i just need to enable the universe or enable anything thats disabled?
[05:53] <ritalin> NilXu: yes
[05:53] <NilXu> ritalin: ic well sorry to bother
[05:53] <tritium> r0bnyc, and then update your package list
[05:53] <robbkidd> r0bnyc: Therein lies your problem. mc is a package in the "universe" repository. You can turn this on in System -> Administration -> Update Manager. (Or, if you're comfortable with a text editor, uncomment the "universe" lines in /etc/apt/sources.list")
[05:54] <ritalin> no prob
[05:54] <NilXu> later
[05:54] <tritium> ritalin, I was in West Lafayette until this past August
[05:54] <vladuz976> i just updated to breezy and i can't even log in anymore, i am getting xorg errors. anybody else have that problem?
[05:55] <ritalin> tritium: purdue?
[05:55] <tritium> ritalin, yeah, purdon't
[05:55] <crimsun> vladuz976: make sure you haven't additional updates pending: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude upgrade
[05:55] <robbkidd> vladuz976: Yep. Run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and let it rewrite your FILES section.
[05:55] <cfh_dev> tritium, module-assistant worked great but 'modprobe zaptel' still doesn't find the module.  Any thoughts?
[05:55] <ritalin> tritium: :)
[05:55] <tritium> :)
[05:55] <crimsun> 'evening, tritium
[05:55] <tritium> cfh_dev, did you install the .deb that was created?
[05:56] <tritium> hello, crimsun :)
[05:56] <lrv> Who is using breezy as is now?
[05:56] <crimsun> lrv: I am
[05:56] <robbkidd> <- Using breezy.
[05:56] <jdub> lrv: moi
[05:56] <tritium> lrv, I am too
[05:56] <crimsun> 'morning, jdub
[05:56] <jdub> yo crimsun
[05:56] <cfh_dev> tritium, mod-ass asked to install so I said yes.  let me check dpkg
[05:56] <lrv> excellent
[05:56] <tritium> heya jdub
[05:56] <lrv> would you it is stable for a office enviroment?
[05:57] <vladuz976> crimsun, where can i find info on setting my sources.list for backports?
[05:57] <lrv> say that is
[05:57] <cfh_dev> tritium, it's installed but no love from modprobe
[05:57] <IcemanV9> user agent switcher causes a problem with GameChannel :(
[05:57] <jimurine> hey
[05:57] <jimurine> i screwed up big time
[05:57] <robbkidd> vladuz: The problem with the breezy upgrade right now is that the new xorg packages have fiddled with the location of fonts.  Rerunning the configuration with overwrite your old font paths with their new locations.
[05:57] <crimsun> vladuz976: there's definitely info on the forum ; the ubotu bot has some info, too, but I don't know the key
[05:58] <jimurine> i typed init 1 at the terminal and now it won't boot, saying that X needs properly configed before i can run GDM
[05:58] <r0bnyc> robbkidd, so i can check them all ?
[05:58] <robbkidd> vlad: If you're running breezy, why touch the backports?
[05:58] <likz> yes
[05:58] <cfh_dev> tritium, I needed to do depmod -a first.  Thanks for all the help
[05:58] <tritium> cfh_dev, no problem
[05:58] <robbkidd> r0bnyc: Sorry, check all of what?
[05:58] <r0bnyc> robbkidd, repository from update manager
[05:58] <tritium> IcemanV9, you're at Purdue too?
[05:59] <robbkidd> r0bnyc: Sure. S'what I did.
[05:59] <robbkidd> jimurine: Sounds like you upgraded to breezy, yes?
[05:59] <apocalyptica> hola *waves*
[05:59] <r0bnyc> 5.10 updates, 5.10 security updates, checked them all ?
[05:59] <jimurine> yeah i'm on breezy
[05:59] <alexandros> good night, does anyone know what happened to the unofficial ubuntu website?
[05:59] <IcemanV9> tritium: heh. no. Chicagoland. Orton is a Purdue graduate playing for Bears.
[06:00] <JoshIsSciFi> ubuntu rocks!
[06:00] <jimurine> robbkid: yeah i'm on breezy badger
[06:00] <tritium> IcemanV9, yeah.
[06:00] <robbkidd> r0bnyc: Not necessary for getting mc installed, but if this is your desktop, enabled all of those sources gives you the most options.
[06:00] <r0bnyc> robbkidd, yes thanks
[06:00] <zyph> i'm still getting the no core pointer error message
[06:00] <JoshIsSciFi> quick question for you all, has anyone gotten ayttm to work in ubuntu?  I installed rpm, then tried to use the FC rpm for ayttm, no luck
[06:01] <tritium> zyph, do you have the latest udev ?
[06:01] <zyph> i did apt-get dist-upgrade, and dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[06:01] <robbkidd> jimurine: I'm 98.43% certain that if you run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org" and let it rewrite your FILES section, your X setup will be back in commission.
[06:01] <zyph> tritium: yeah i'm pretty sure i do
[06:01] <IcemanV9> no user agent switcher extension for epiphany? dang
[06:01] <zyph> tritium: should i apt-get udev?
[06:01] <jimurine> ok just type that in at the cmd prompt?
[06:01] <tritium> zyph, 0.060-1ubuntu14 is what you want
[06:01] <robbkidd> jimurine: Yepper.
[06:01] <likz> anyoen able to help with iwp2200 wireless on my laptop, I get the following in terminal: http://pastebin.com/370635
[06:01] <zyph> tritium: how do i check what version of udev i have now?
[06:01] <jimurine> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[06:01] <tritium> JoshIsSciFi, did you not try the .deb ?
[06:01] <robbkidd> jimurine: And then answer a number of questions.
[06:01] <ritalin> anyone here use/used balsa?
[06:01] <bur[n] er> likz: you apply the firmware?
[06:02] <jimurine> robbkidd: thanks
[06:02] <r0bnyc> robbkidd, thanks for your help btw do you know where i can get nice gnome themes ? (complete with icons or so) "?
[06:02] <JoshIsSciFi> tritium, I shall try it momentarily, thank you.
[06:02] <r0bnyc> i mean real real nice :)
[06:02] <likz> I heard that 0.19 should work right off the bat without installing the new 1.00
[06:02] <tritium> JoshIsSciFi, it's in universe
[06:02] <JoshIsSciFi> universe?
[06:02] <JoshIsSciFi> sorry if that sounds dumb... lol
[06:02] <tritium> zyph, apt-cache policy udev is one way
[06:02] <bur[n] er> er... likz what's the problem?  looks all fine to me
[06:02] <zyph> tritium: thanks
[06:02] <tritium> !tell JoshIsSciFi about repositories
[06:03] <JoshIsSciFi> but I just found out about ubuntu tonight, so not fully familiar with everything as of yet
[06:03] <crimsun> likz: hoary or breezy?
[06:03] <tritium> zyph, we are talking about breezy, I assume?
[06:03] <zyph> tritium: yeah that's the version i have now
[06:03] <likz> bur[n] er: i just installed ubuntu 1hour ago, not sure
[06:03] <zyph> tritium: yes
[06:03] <likz> crimsun: hoary
[06:03] <jimurine> brb i'm gonna try this
[06:03] <zyph> tritium: perhaps i should reboot?
[06:03] <tritium> zyph, well, when did udev get installed relative to your last reboot?
[06:03] <crimsun> likz: what seems to be the issue with ipw2200?
[06:04] <robbkidd> r0bnyc: Indeed. art.gnome.org and gnome-look.org.  Bonus: install the "gnome-art" package which will automatically download previews of themes at art.gnome.org and install what you select.
[06:04] <bur[n] er> likz: use your icon in your panel to set the ESSID to connect to
[06:04] <zyph> tritium: this session
[06:04] <likz> I found this site http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623 regarding updating wirless, but it says it should work with 0.19 though... cant get wirless to work
[06:04] <tritium> zyph, please reboot (restarting udev might work, not sure)
[06:04] <zyph> tritium: so udev restart?
[06:04] <JoshIsSciFi> tritium, so basically I type in the deb http:// into console?
[06:04] <r0bnyc> robbkidd, thanks again . what themes do you use
[06:05] <zyph> i'll reboot first
[06:05] <tritium> JoshIsSciFi, no, that info would go in /etc/apt/sources.list  (can be done using a text editor, or through synaptic)
[06:05] <zyph> i'll be back
[06:05] <JoshIsSciFi> alright
[06:05] <JoshIsSciFi> lemme put it in there
[06:05] <robbkidd> r0bnyc: I'm ambivalent on eyecandy.  I've got Human up with the graphic icon set.  The whole graphite theme suite is rather nice, though.
[06:06] <likz> crimson: trying to get ipw2200 to work on my laptop, without resorting to installing breezy (only cause i hear it has more hardware support)
[06:06] <robbkidd> r0bnyc: Graphite is available at gnome-look.org, I think. Not through art.gnome.org or the gnome-art utility.
[06:06] <tritium> JoshIsSciFi, did you take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto ?
[06:06] <nalioth> robbkidd: run a cli box then. way more performance that way
[06:06] <jimurine> robbkidd: are you sure it's xserver-org?
[06:06] <JoshIsSciFi> reading now tritium
[06:06] <Sonny_Wertzik> Does anyone know why xine wont play store bought DVDs?
[06:06] <tritium> css
[06:06] <Agrajag> you don't have libdvdcss2 installed.
[06:06] <likz> http://pastebin.com/370635   is what I got so far
[06:07] <jimurine> it's telling me there's no such package as xserver-org
[06:07] <jimurine> !tell jimurine xserver-org
[06:07] <robbkidd> r0bnyc: Yep. http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=26757 Another bonus: the graphite icon set includes the "proper" Firefox and Thunderbird icons.
[06:07] <tritium> xserver-xorg, jimurine
[06:07] <crimsun> likz: unfortunately that doesn't reveal too much
[06:07] <r0bnyc> ty robbkidd
[06:07] <robbkidd> jimurine: Damn and blast. No. My mistype. It's xserver-xorg. (note the two Xs)
[06:08] <likz> im a nub to linux, what info do you need?
[06:08] <jimurine> robbkidd: thanks for your help! i'll be back
[06:08] <robbkidd> nalioth: Wurl, I like *some* eyecandy.  I likes me my Amarok.
[06:08] <marie_> hello
[06:08] <Sonny_Wertzik> Agrajag, actually i got an error so i installed it...now it says according to my country's laws Im not allow to use libdvdcss2 to play my store bought dvd's
[06:08] <nalioth> robbkidd: color in your ~/.bashrc works great! ;)
[06:08] <JoshIsSciFi> hmm
[06:08] <marie_> i have a question
[06:09] <JoshIsSciFi> the adding howto doesn't seem to come up
[06:09] <Agrajag> Sonny_Wertzik: You live in the US?
[06:09] <robbkidd> nalioth: Heh.
[06:09] <likz> should ipw2200 work fine under 0.19, no need to upgrade to 1.0.6?
[06:09] <Sonny_Wertzik> Agrajag, ya i do
[06:09] <JoshIsSciFi> ah hah, thats why...
[06:09] <marie_> how can i install a counterstrike game in a linux
[06:09] <tritium> likz, ipw2200 on hoary might actually be more work than upgrading to breezy if you look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623
[06:09] <whyameye> What is the ubuntu equivalent for, say, adobe illustrator?
[06:09] <knudsen> Hello. Does anybody know what is happening to the backports? After installing Acrobat Reader, it will not start ... and j2re/j2sdk are missing :-(
[06:09] <Agrajag> Then that's true, according to the DMCA you cannot use libdvdcss2 to break css encryption.
[06:09] <Agrajag> But you won't be prosecuted for it.
[06:09] <robbkidd> nalioth: To tell the truth, I use a lot of X apps, though I am one of those sad souls with a workspace scattered with shells.
[06:10] <Agrajag> And if you are, raise hell and get that pile of dung repealed.
[06:10] <Sonny_Wertzik> Agrajag, so what do i do now ??
[06:10] <Agrajag> Use it anyway.
[06:10] <esac> i installed console-terminus and xfonts-terminus, but its not showing up. do i have to do something to refresh the font cache ?
[06:10] <marie_> how can i install counterstrike in linux ubuntu
[06:10] <tritium> whyameye, scribus
[06:10] <dooglus> is 'curl' installed by default?
[06:10] <likz> tritium: and breezy supports ipw2200 ? intel pro/wirless 2200bg cards
[06:10] <nalioth> dooglus: no
[06:10] <Sonny_Wertzik> Agrajag, i cant ..i get that error and i can only cancel
[06:10] <Agrajag> wtf
[06:10] <marie_> pls answer me
[06:10] <Agrajag> Where did you get the package?
[06:11] <robbkidd> dooglus: Negative. wget is though.
[06:11] <tritium> likz, yes, I have ipw2200 on a laptop with breezy installed
[06:11] <Sonny_Wertzik> Agrajag, i know..tell me about it
[06:11] <crimsun> marie_: try wine or cedega
[06:11] <Ex-Cyber> tritium: I thought scribus was specifically optimized to be an SVG editor and not a general vector illustration program... is that incorrect?
[06:11] <likz> any it autodetected it?
[06:11] <Sonny_Wertzik> Agrajag, from the xine site
[06:11] <Sonny_Wertzik> i think
[06:11] <dooglus> hmmm.  so is this a bug:
[06:11] <dooglus> $ sudo apt-file update
[06:11] <dooglus> sh: curl: command not found
[06:11] <Agrajag> why?
[06:11] <Agrajag> Use ubuntu repositories for software, don't download it from websites.
[06:11] <dooglus> apt-file seems to need curl, but didn't require it
[06:11] <tritium> Ex-Cyber, not sure about the nitty-gritty details
[06:11] <likz> whats the command to test if CD copy of Ubuntu was properly burnt?
[06:11] <marie_> what is that crimsum
[06:11] <opteek> ok, i have a folder where i mount some partition, and i am a member of the group which owns said folder, and the group has full permissions on the folder, yet I cannot access the folder with my user, what is up??
[06:12] <robbkidd> doog: You probably want to run apt-get, non?
[06:12] <Sonny_Wertzik> i had the old versionit was buggy and it still did the same thing with libdvdcss2
[06:12] <dooglus> robbkidd: non.
[06:12] <crimsun> marie_: they're programs you may have luck with running Windows programs
[06:12] <dooglus> robbkidd: I was trying to use apt-file
[06:12] <marie_> its my first time in linux environment
[06:12] <Sonny_Wertzik> the new xine is perfect cept for i can play store bought dvds
[06:12] <robbkidd> doog: Aah. I see the difference.
[06:12] <robbkidd> marie: Welcome!
[06:12] <Agrajag> Sonny_Wertzik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:13] <r0bnyc> where do I find my trash can?
[06:13] <dooglus> r0bnyc: in the bottom right hand corner?
[06:13] <Sonny_Wertzik> Agrajag, whats that a repository?
[06:13] <marie_> tnx robb
[06:13] <Agrajag> That's a website.
[06:13] <Agrajag> Read that page.
[06:13] <Ex-Cyber> tritium: I thought it forked from sodipodi because someone wanted something to edit SVG for web usage... but I'm not sure myself :/
[06:13] <Sonny_Wertzik> ahhh thx man
[06:13] <marie_> what should i do crimsum
[06:13] <Octane> I have been unable to open any office documents for over a month and could really use some help in getting OpenOffice.org to work. If you would be so kind and read this thread to try to help me - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67327 - I would very much appreciate it
[06:13] <tritium> Ex-Cyber, perhaps apt-cache show scribus will tell you what you want to know
[06:13] <opteek> anyone? im sure this is an eez question
[06:14] <r0bnyc> dooglus, lol thanks i couldnt see it
[06:14] <dooglus> r0bnyc: it's pretty small
[06:14] <whyameye> tritium, Ex-Cyber: thanks. I'll take a look at Scribus, at least.
[06:14] <JoshIsSciFi> does ubuntu have support natively for Logitech Webcams?
[06:14] <r0bnyc> dooglus, yea but is that my monitor had a bad size for awkard reasons
[06:14] <robbkidd> About that trashcan: am I beholden to keeping it's manipulator in my panel?
[06:14] <cat> JoshIsSciFi: not really
[06:15] <JoshIsSciFi> hmm
[06:15] <boxerboy29> hey guys how do you find what package is broken when it says one is?
[06:15] <cat> boxerboy29: apt-cache search package
[06:15] <marie_> cmon guys help me
[06:15] <cat> marie_: ask
[06:15] <robbkidd> boxerboy: Or sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:15] <Ex-Cyber> opteek: what filesystem?
[06:15] <marie_> how can i install counterstrike
[06:15] <opteek> Ex-Cyber, ntfs
[06:16] <tritium> marie_, please don't be so insistent.  crimsun gave you a suggestion to try
[06:16] <cat> marie_: get cigega or something like that to play
[06:16] <cat> *cidega
[06:16] <marie_> im totally new to linux so i have no idea what he gave me
[06:16] <tritium> Octane, that's bizarre.  I've not seen that before.
[06:16] <Ex-Cyber> opteek: look at the manpage for mount.ntfs and see if there's a "umask" option... I'm not sure but if NTFS doesn't support unix-style permissions it may be defaulting to something more restrictive
[06:16] <ritalin> cedega*
[06:16] <ritalin> ;)
[06:16] <marie_> what is cigega
[06:16] <cat> marie_: well, get cedega to play games
[06:16] <cat> marie_: www.google.com/linux cedega
[06:17] <Octane> tritium: i know!!!!!!!!
[06:17] <cat> and see what it is but you have to pay for it
[06:17] <Octane> tritium: everything else works perfectly
[06:17] <Ex-Cyber> opteek: sorry, it's in the mount manpage, mount.ntfs manpage doesn't exist
[06:17] <marie_> ok cat tnx ill get it
[06:17] <cat> np
[06:17] <[cyb3rm4n] > hi all
[06:17] <rigel> !seen joob
[06:17] <ubotu> rigel: i haven't seen 'joob'
[06:17] <[cyb3rm4n] > :D
[06:17] <JoshIsSciFi> has anyone attempted to use the 3ddesktop?
[06:17] <cat> nope why?
[06:18] <JoshIsSciFi> Was going to test it out lol
[06:18] <esac> i just got this error message, anybody know what it means: find: WARNING: Hard link count is wrong for ./proc: this may be a bug in your filesystem driver.  Automatically turning on find's -noleaf option. Earlier results may have failed to include directories that should have been searched.
[06:18] <cat> oh and what's holding you?
[06:18] <Marxist> does anyone know my system gives me a kernel panic after new kernel install, what could it be  that one can do wrong to lead to that failure?
[06:18] <JoshIsSciFi> the fact that I'm amazed at ubuntu, and its glory is temporarily blinding me
[06:18] <JoshIsSciFi> :)
[06:18] <robbkidd> esac: I'm assuming you got that while running find?
[06:18] <cat> Marxist: grub or lilo?
[06:18] <esac> robbkidd: that is correct
[06:18] <boxerboy29> well i found the problema nd fixed it now my question is how do i get a non broken version of opera
[06:19] <Ex-Cyber> opteek: it looks like you want the "gid" and "umask" options...
[06:19] <cat> boxerboy29: apt-get install opera breezy or whatever
[06:19] <robbkidd> esac: Probably choked on the weirdness that is the /proc filesystem.
[06:19] <Marxist> grub
[06:19] <Ex-Cyber> but I've never used NTFS support for anything other than backing up stuff from an NTFS volume, so I don't really know
[06:19] <esac> robbkidd: never seen it before with hoary, possibly a new bug ?
[06:19] <cat> Marxist: must be something wrong
[06:19] <cat> with the grub configuration or the kernel also
[06:20] <Marxist> it reads the kernel but i just get a kernel panic afterwards
[06:20] <robbkidd> esac: May be.
[06:20] <cat> does ubuntu have a handbook like fbsd
[06:20] <cat> !handbook
[06:20] <ubotu> cat: Wish i knew
[06:20] <cat> sucks
[06:20] <tritium> cat, the documentation team is working on lots of great documents
[06:20] <cat> tritium: so is it or there isn't
[06:20] <Ex-Cyber> cat: not really... closest thing that exists is the Wiki, and it's not as nicely structured as the FBSD Handbook
[06:20] <Marxist> but could it be that i install some unnecessary kernel support for devices my system might not have?
[06:21] <Ex-Cyber> but it's still a pretty good source of info
[06:21] <robbkidd> esac: Well, it happens to me, too.
[06:21] <tritium> cat, I don't know the status of it
[06:21] <cat> oh
[06:21] <robbkidd> esac: What the significance of that is, I don't know.
[06:21] <cat> they should do one
[06:21] <tritium> they are, cat
[06:21] <Marxist> is there any good up to date documentation that i can read on what to do and what not to do when configuring a new custom kernel?
[06:22] <opteek> Ex-Cyber, how can I specify these options in fstab
[06:22] <robbkidd> cat: I've had a fair amount of success just with putting "ubuntu" in as my first keyword at Google.  Someone somewhere has had to solve my problems already.
[06:22] <benjamin1254> gimp doesent wana save new moded image files when i got my ubuntu cds from the netherlands today... any help?
[06:22] <Ex-Cyber> opteek: I don't recall exactly but it can be done... there should be a manpage for fstab
[06:22] <irs4> hi, any body from phils
[06:22] <JoshIsSciFi> OMG!@!@11111one!
[06:22] <sPYder---> what is the shortcut key to see the process?????????????????
[06:22] <cat> robbkidd: where?
[06:22] <opteek> Ex-Cyber, ty
[06:22] <JoshIsSciFi> if you have not used 3ddesktop, try it!
[06:22] <cat> give me the link
[06:22] <tritium> cat, also, much of the Debian Reference is pertinent
[06:23] <cat> robbkidd: can u give me the link?
[06:23] <Ex-Cyber> opteek: basically it would be where you see stuff like "ro" "noatime" etc for other partitions
[06:23] <Marxist> i've tried tldp and it's out of date
[06:23] <JoshIsSciFi> all the people in my history class that bring they're laptops are gonna freak when I pop mine open with 3ddesktop goin
[06:23] <benplaut> hrm
[06:23] <tritium> cat, currently, we have this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[06:23] <benplaut> conflict between Opera and Scribus
[06:23] <robbkidd> cat: Er, I didn't mean that I'd found a handbook.  Just that Google+"ubuntu"-keyword has answered most of my questions.
[06:23] <irs4> hi
[06:23] <tritium> cat, more documentation is being written
[06:23] <sPYder---> what is the shortcut key to see the process?????????????????ctrl+alt+del for windows.. what is for ubuntu???
[06:24] <tritium> sPYder---, there is no shortcut key
[06:24] <sPYder---> why
[06:24] <IcemanV9> cat: wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:24] <marie_> does an online game work in linux
[06:24] <sPYder---> if my application will hang what will i do???
[06:24] <robbkidd> Josh: The 3D desktop would probably lessen my irritation with all that clickety-clacking during lecture, yea.
[06:24] <bobby> some times
[06:24] <bobby> marie_, what is the game?
[06:24] <benjamin1254> marie what 1?
[06:24] <marie_> gunbound
[06:25] <sPYder---> if my application will crash what will i do??? to close that application????
[06:25] <robbkidd> spyder: The UNIX way -- open a shell (CTRL-ALT-F1, say) and run top.
[06:25] <bobby> marie_, don't know it - it might though
[06:25] <benjamin1254> same question only call of duty
[06:25] <cat> sPYder---: kill -9 pid or killall application
[06:25] <marie_> bobby: gunbound
[06:25] <Marxist> killall <application name>
[06:25] <tritium> geekchic9, please turn that off?
[06:25] <bobby> benjamin1254, CoD runs better under linux than it does udner windows :D
[06:25] <tritium> there's also pkill, or you can use the system monitor as well
[06:25] <marie_> bobby: how about mu
[06:26] <kakalto> could someone please help with setting up an ISA ethernet card on ubuntu?
[06:26] <bobby> marie_, mu?
[06:26] <benjamin1254> how do i install it and get it running then
[06:26] <benjamin1254> cuz i have tried and cant
[06:26] <marie_> bobby: its an online game
[06:26] <zyph> everything worked, thanks
[06:26] <bobby> benjamin1254, I'm not sure if it works under wine (winehq.com) (free) but I definately know it works flawlessly under cedega (transgaming.com) ($25 - but well worth the cost)
[06:26] <marie_> bobby: just like ragnarok
[06:26] <robbkidd> spyder: Often, when you click the X close button on a hung X/GNOME app, it will attempt to close it normally and, failing that, ask you if you'd like to kill it.
[06:26] <bobby> marie_, not sure sorry :|
[06:26] <tritium> !cuz
[06:26] <ubotu> somebody said cuz was the wrong way to say because
[06:27] <esac> sPYder---: are you in gnome or kde ?
[06:27] <benjamin1254> do they accept pay pal payment?
[06:27] <dooglus> marie_: marie_ most windows games don't run on linux natively.
[06:27] <malv> anyone know if ati has drastically improved the performance of their drivers for linux
[06:27] <marie_> bobby: thats ok
[06:27] <zyph> cedega has crappy customer support
[06:27] <malv> last I checked, performance under UT2k4 was terrible compared to windows
[06:27] <dooglus> marie_: you can try using something like 'wine' if you really have to, but if you like playing windows games, why not use windows?
[06:27] <zyph> dooglus: windows bites
[06:27] <benjamin1254> cuz windows has so many issues
[06:27] <marie_> dooglus: oww!
[06:28] <Toma-> marie_: http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=3220 <<< This URL says it wont work under cedega, so i dont fancy your chances.
[06:28] <benjamin1254> it sucks
[06:28] <dooglus> zyph: I know, but if you're hooked on windows games, it's the best place for you
[06:28] <benjamin1254> it has so many problems  its not worth its risk
[06:28] <ritalin> cedega has many more issues then windows ever thought about
[06:28] <ritalin> if you game, keep a partion free for windows
[06:28] <malv> yep, pretty buggy
[06:28] <zyph> dooglus: ok, well windows games cost money
[06:28] <malv> but there are some good native games for linux
[06:28] <zyph> dooglus: so not using them is like, burning money
[06:28] <dooglus> zyph: for most people i imagine they're free
[06:29] <malv> none published by EA, but EA makes crap
[06:29] <ritalin> malv: best gaming on *nix imho is ROMS
[06:29] <tritium> dooglus, how do you figure that?
[06:29] <ritalin> <---retro gamer
[06:29] <JoshIsSciFi> how can I add a program that I have installed (3ddesktop) to the Applications menu?
[06:29] <marie_> toma: tnx im just trying to find out if things work in linux just like in windows
[06:29] <malv> well, maxis isn't bad. They always come out with something neat
[06:29] <zyph> dooglus: glest is a pretty good rts for linux
[06:29] <dooglus> tritium: illegal downloads, piracy, you know.
[06:29] <marie_> anyways i have a dual os
[06:29] <benjamin1254> yes all winblows games cot money but i get my windows OS for free from my school cuz its what im goin to school to learn about and i ama gana be trained on them from head 2 tow
[06:29] <ritalin> ff6 for 1if3
[06:29] <tritium> dooglus, yeah, we don't discuss such things here
[06:29] <zyph> tritium: lol
[06:30] <zyph> dooglus: yeah we're trying to convince the industry linux users aren't freeloaders
[06:30] <malv> i believe that everything should be free =)
[06:30] <dooglus> tritium: I was just saying - the price of games isn't a concern for most windows users
[06:30] <benjamin1254> malv me 2
[06:30] <jblack> Has anyone had a problem with recent updates in breezy eating their ipw2200 and breaking xfree? (It seems to be causing a udev problem)
[06:30] <phayze2> malv: you mean, mostly everything
[06:30] <nomasteryoda|w> dooglus, er, most windows users?
[06:30] <zyph> dooglus: you don't know what you're talking about
[06:30] <ritalin> dooglus: that isnt true. the average user doesnt even understand p2p
[06:30] <phayze2> if everything were free, the world would be running with mayhem
[06:30] <tritium> jblack, you need the latest udev
[06:30] <malv> if everything was free, people would still work
[06:31] <ritalin> stick a noob in front of bittorrent and see how far they get
[06:31] <phayze2> not really
[06:31] <robbkidd> jblack: The breezy upgrade broke my X because of new font locations. A "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" will fix this.
[06:31] <tritium> take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[06:31] <phayze2> :D
[06:31] <benjamin1254> did all of u know windows is trying to coppy linux in vista now.. its supose to be linux like now and i think that just blows
[06:31] <malv> i mean, machines do just about everything today. The only reason we work is cause some rich man wants to be a bit richer
[06:31] <nomasteryoda|w> thanks tritium
[06:31] <phayze2> tritium: are there any other offtopic channels on this server?
[06:31] <nomasteryoda|w> benjamin1254, yes
[06:31] <jblack> robbkidd: My problem is it ate the device files for X.
[06:31] <zyph> i just came on to say thanks to the person who helped me
[06:31] <nomasteryoda|w> go to #freenode
[06:31] <tritium> phayze2, I haven't looked
[06:31] <jblack> However, with the ipw2200 being dead, thats no network
[06:31] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[06:32] <zyph> now i'm going to go play some games
[06:32] <tritium> jblack, what do you mean it ate them?
[06:32] <zyph> later ppl
[06:32] <jblack> tritium: Ok, for X to work, /etc/init.d/udev restart works fine.
[06:32] <tritium> malv, we work to earn a living
[06:32] <jblack> So there's a udev bug there.
[06:32] <robbkidd> jblack: I don't quite follow what you mean by eaten device files?  You've lost entries in /dev? Or lost the drivers in /usr?
[06:32] <tritium> jblack, it's fixed
[06:32] <robbkidd> Ah.
[06:32] <jblack> For the ipw2200, I don't know what's wrong yet. But without the ipw2200, I don't have network access. :)
[06:32] <tritium> jblack, make sure you have 0.060-1ubuntu14
[06:32] <malv> tritium: yea, but the simple truth is that we have the technology to survive without lifting a finger
[06:33] <tritium> not really, malv
[06:33] <phayze2> yeah, not really
[06:33] <phayze2> you forget that the world needs to live very hygenically
[06:33] <jblack> tritium: Any sort of fix by hand I can use to get the machine back on the network?
[06:33] <malv> trident white strips?
[06:33] <nomasteryoda|w> oh, and someone has to type in these channels ...=)
[06:33] <malv> I just wonder how it is that we work just as hard as we did 600 years ago
[06:33] <nomasteryoda|w> ubotu is ok, but not bob2  or tritum or ...
[06:33] <ubotu> nomasteryoda|w: Are you smoking crack?
[06:34] <nomasteryoda|w> LOL
[06:34] <tritium> jblack, that's your only network interface?  Not sure...
[06:34] <nomasteryoda|w> see
[06:34] <RuffianSoldier> Ive been using Ubuntu since pre-release - im very familiar with it - but im gonna buy a laptop soon - and im wondering what laptops run the best with it? since i do not know much about Ubuntu on laptops, i need some guidance
[06:34] <JoshIsSciFi> should I install the ndiswrapper-source through Synaptic as well as the ndisgtk?
[06:34] <nomasteryoda|w> ubotu thinks i'm darl
[06:34] <jblack> I could lug the machine down to the basement and plug in a patch cord if I need to. :)
[06:34] <ubotu> nomasteryoda|w: Are you on ritalin?
[06:34] <tritium> nomasteryoda|w, not sure what you thanked me for earlier, but thanks back :)
[06:34] <ritalin> RuffianSoldier: I always hear people brag about thinkpads and OSS
[06:34] <IcemanV9> is there a way to mount ufs2(freebsd) partition??
[06:34] <nomasteryoda|w> tritium, keeping the channel pure ... offtopics
[06:35] <tritium> ah, :)
[06:35] <RuffianSoldier> i figured a thinkpad might be a good choice
[06:35] <nomasteryoda|w> RuffianSoldier, sure
[06:35] <tritium> RuffianSoldier, check out the LaptopTesting wiki page
[06:35] <RuffianSoldier> k
[06:35] <robbkidd> Ruffian: Second the Thinkpads through hearsay.  I keep hearing a rough heirarchy of (low) crappy laptops, (medium) good laptops, and (best) Thinkpads.
[06:35] <tritium> cat, did you see the UserDocumentation link I sent you?
[06:36] <RuffianSoldier> ty robbkidd
[06:36] <cat> tritium: yeah
[06:36] <ritalin> RuffianSoldier: I have a ibook G4 and if i could do it over again id go with a thinkpad
[06:36] <nathan_> ritalin, you mean as a linux laptop?  Or generally?
[06:36] <ritalin> Generally
[06:37] <robbkidd> I've got an Acer Travelmate that I haven't yet been ballsy enough to Ubuntuize.
[06:37] <ritalin> I run OS X on my ibook
[06:37] <nathan_> I'm very happy with OS X on my iBook G4
[06:37] <Antioch> I have a thinkpad and when I buy a new laptop it will also be a thinkpad
[06:37] <nomasteryoda|w> robbkidd, that should be agood one...
[06:37] <RuffianSoldier> seems most thinkpads use Centrinos - back when I was very active with Linux alot of people were having trouble with Centrinos and Linux - are they still a problem?
[06:37] <tritium> I've got a Toshiba Tecra A2 that I'm rather pleased with
[06:37] <marie_> what does a foot icon means? does it mean that its unidentified?
[06:37] <IcemanV9> my next laptop would be thinkpad (hands down)
[06:37] <nomasteryoda|w> RuffianSoldier, not much... using a dell D505 here... latitude
[06:37] <Antioch> I installed linux on this laptop before and I had no troubles with it being centrino based at all
[06:38] <nomasteryoda|w> centrino
[06:38] <robbkidd> Ruffian: The only problem I recall was the closed Centrino wireless chips.  I think that's been obviated through ndiswrapper.
[06:38] <nathan_> marie_, Foot icon in what context?
[06:38] <BROKEN_LADDER> can anyone tell me a command that i could use to turn a list of files like *_EXTENSION to *.EXTENSION ?
[06:38] <sdali> I installed libssh2 from source, now I get synaptic errors "openssh-client:  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2". What can I do to resolve this apparent conflict?
[06:38] <RuffianSoldier> well, i would like to use wifi :)
[06:38] <Antioch> robbkidd RuffianSoldier nooo... intel opensourced the drivers for the wirelesss... I believe theyre built into the kernel by now
[06:38] <marie_> a green foot
[06:38] <Antioch> let me pull up the webpages for you
[06:38] <nomasteryoda|w> BROKEN_LADDER, look for touch... i think that will do it
[06:38] <tritium> sdali, why did you do that?
[06:38] <RuffianSoldier> Antioch, you from Ohio?
[06:39] <marie_> nathan: a green foot
[06:39] <marie_> nathan: in my desktop
[06:39] <Antioch> http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net/ http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/ -- Ive used the 2200 drivers before when I was on gentoo, worked perfectly (and that was a year ago)
[06:39] <cat> a green foot?
[06:39] <Antioch> RuffianSoldier no
[06:39] <robbkidd> Hey. No ops. Lord of the Flies time everyone!
[06:39] <tritium> oh yeah?
[06:40] <phayze2> i'm the fat kid
[06:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> nomasteryoda|w "touch" just changes file time stamps.
[06:40] <nalioth> BROKEN_LADDER: ren
[06:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> ah
[06:40] <Madpilot> robbkidd: don't be too sure. the ops here often lurk... there's at least one present right now...
[06:40] <sdali> Why did I install libssh2 from src? I nneded it for another python module.
[06:40] <sdali> org.keyphrene
[06:40] <BROKEN_LADDER> bash: ren: command not found
[06:40] <ritalin> BROKEN_LADDER: do you have the zshell installed?
[06:40] <nathan_> marie_, what happens if you click it?
[06:40] <robbkidd> Oh, I'm just pokin' fun.  It's late for me and I'm getting punchy.
[06:40] <nomasteryoda|w> BROKEN_LADDER, k
[06:40] <nomasteryoda|w> BROKEN_LADDER, jsut sec..
[06:41] <robbkidd> Besides, I'm not in the mood to kill the fat kid with a spear.
[06:41] <marie_> nathan: couldnt display blah blah! something like that
[06:41] <sdali> tritium, any ideas on how to get past this?
[06:41] <ritalin> BROKEN_LADDER: if you have zsh installed do this "autoload zmv; zmv -W *_EXTENSION *.EXTENSION
[06:42] <ritalin> zsh > *
[06:42] <cat> zsh the best
[06:42] <nathan_> hmmm... Beats me.  IT's obviously got something to do with gnome (the foot is the gnome logo) but most of the feet tend to be either brown or black
[06:42] <robbkidd> Off Topic: Oo, any of you folks using TortoiseSVN with SVN+SSH?
[06:42] <tritium> sdali, but you could have installed the ubuntu source instead
[06:42] <bimberi> BROKEN_LADDER: try the rename command - have a look at "man rename"
[06:43] <nomasteryoda|w> BROKEN_LADDER, try this:
[06:43] <nomasteryoda|w> for f in *.htm; do mv $f `basename $f .htm`.html; done;
[06:43] <nomasteryoda|w> simple
[06:43] <tritium> robbkidd, and did you learn this from watching the movie, or reading the book/
[06:43] <marie_> yea its the gnome. what does it means
[06:43] <nathan_> marie_, the blah blah is probably a clue as to what it's trying to do.  The other thing you could do is right click and look at the properties of it
[06:43] <sdali> I couldn't find a ubuntu libssh2 pkg, and are you implying that it's best not to install other SW that's outside of Ubuntu?
[06:43] <tritium> yes, sdali
[06:43] <ritalin> point being there is about a zillion ways to rename files
[06:43] <sdali> Yikes!
[06:43] <nomasteryoda|w> ritalin, dang right
[06:44] <nomasteryoda|w> and tell ubotu I'm not on you
[06:44] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[06:44] <x[BrB] x> can i set my open office to save all my files on a certain folder on my desktop??
[06:44] <marie_> nathan: well im a complete stranger to linux so probably im gonna go back to windows
[06:44] <sdali> OK, so whatdoes one do if you can't find a ubuntu specific pkg?
[06:44] <nomasteryoda|w> x[BrB] x, yes
[06:44] <nomasteryoda|w> under options
[06:44] <jblack> tritium: Thanks a lot. The newer udev fixed the network problem as well.
[06:45] <nomasteryoda|w> in openoffice
[06:45] <tritium> super, jblack
[06:45] <jblack> tritium: Presumably udev wasn't uploading the firmwar.
[06:45] <x[BrB] x> ok
[06:45] <JoshIsSciFi> *crosses fingers* starting wireless...
[06:45] <tritium> did you have to go downstairs and plug in?
[06:45] <nomasteryoda|w> jblack, same here
[06:45] <jblack> So if you bump into somebody that's builtin wireless doesn't work, the new udev will take care of it.
[06:45] <jblack> tritium: Yup. I'm back upstairs already.
[06:45] <nomasteryoda|w> networking issues with ndiswrapper driver and my atheros cards..
[06:45] <nomasteryoda|w> working fine now
[06:45] <tritium> good deal
[06:46] <nomasteryoda|w> robbkidd, have heard good things about that
[06:46] <robbkidd> tritium: The book, man!  Eighth grade if I recall correctly.
[06:46] <cesarin> hello!
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> robbkidd, if it has the nice 1400x1050 res screen, then Breezy has 855resolution patch in repos to install.... making it even nicer
[06:47] <Slant_Laptop> How can I get WPA working in Ubuntu?
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> using both of those here... on this dell
[06:47] <robbkidd> tritium: Indeed. I've already performed a subversive install of Breezy at work, replacing my corporate XP install.
[06:47] <Slant_Laptop> Or rather, is there a way other than setting up a convoluted and custom wpa_supplicant?
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> robbkidd, wow
[06:47] <tritium> robbkidd, you're brave.  I'd get fired
[06:47] <Slant_Laptop> Does network-manager support it at all?
[06:47] <ColonelKernel> robbkidd, breezy preview ?
[06:47] <nomasteryoda|w> tritium, I have it on 2 laptops
[06:48] <nomasteryoda|w> at work
[06:48] <robbkidd> ColonelKernel: Yepper.
[06:48] <Slant_Laptop> robbkidd, what do you do?
[06:48] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[06:48] <tritium> rockin', nomasteryoda|w
[06:48] <cesarin> anmyone can give me a hand installing flash & java?
[06:48] <robbkidd> Slant: I'm an admin/security guy.
[06:48] <cesarin> because its refusing to install ( Ie, missing packages )
[06:48] <ColonelKernel> robbkidd, have you tried any vanilla 2.6.13+ kernels on it or know anyone who has?
[06:48] <cat> !TELL cesarin ABOUT java
[06:48] <lazlo> hi im brand new to ubuntu.. i have a question
[06:48] <nomasteryoda|w> breezy ... updating daily is a roulette wheel of fun...
[06:48] <cesarin> cat: already followewd that one man
[06:48] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[06:48] <cat> cesarin: go to the link that give you
[06:48] <nathan_> Slant_Laptop, select the interface and select configure
[06:48] <cesarin> I went for sun's java, but the package just doesnt installs :P
[06:48] <cesarin> cat: I repeat, I already followed these instructions
[06:49] <nomasteryoda|w> lazlo, don't ask to ask... ask
[06:49] <nomasteryoda|w> but welcome
[06:49] <robbkidd> Col.Kern: Nope. Just the standard 2.6.12 that comes with Breezy.
[06:49] <tritium> cesarin, did you build a .deb with java-package from Sun's .bin ?
[06:49] <cat> cesarin: then go to www.java.com and download it
[06:49] <lazlo> i come from freebsd and gentoo... is there something like pkg_get or emerge for ubuntu
[06:49] <lazlo> ?
[06:49] <ColonelKernel> nomasteryoda|w, to be honest its worth it to contribute if one has a system with standardized parts on - ie, not too much random feces
[06:49] <nathan_> Slant_Laptop, The wireless stuff is in there
[06:49] <cat> lazlo: yeah dpkg and apt-get
[06:49] <cesarin> tritium: nope
[06:49] <cat> is that what you mean?
[06:49] <nomasteryoda|w> sure
[06:49] <cesarin> cant find the package
[06:49] <tritium> !info java-package
[06:49] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.23 (hoary), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 264 kB
[06:49] <cesarin> I mean I try to "install it" using the directrions of the !javasun
[06:49] <tritium> it's in multiverse, cesarin
[06:49] <nomasteryoda|w> ColonelKernel, all too true
[06:50] <sPYder---> !search wine*
[06:50] <ubotu> sPYder---: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:50] <cesarin> <-- using breesy
[06:50] <sPYder---> :D
[06:50] <cesarin> tritium, can you give me the direction to add the multiverse?
[06:50] <tritium> I always use make-jpkg (in java-package) to build my own .deb from Sun's .bin, cesarin
[06:50] <nomasteryoda|w> !tell lazlo about repos
[06:50] <cesarin> because I came here in the morning, and followed other guy's instructions
[06:50] <cesarin> and yet cannot find the package
[06:50] <tritium> !tell cesarin about respositories
[06:50] <ColonelKernel> then I switched to ubuntu
[06:50] <cesarin> tritium: I got all the default ones :P
[06:50] <cesarin> yet that java doesnt appear :P
[06:50] <tritium> !tell cesarin about repositories
[06:50] <ColonelKernel> <---- vanilla kernel junkie
[06:50] <sPYder---> how to refresh ubuntu desktop???????????
[06:51] <cesarin> thats why im asking for help here you know heh :P
[06:51] <tritium> cesarin, you download the .bin from Sun's website, and then build your own .deb
[06:51] <nalioth> cesarin: hoary or breezy?
[06:51] <nomasteryoda|w> lastest article i read said Ubuntu stands to sit right in with the bigboys of Linux... and maybe push some of them out
[06:51] <nomasteryoda|w> =)
[06:51] <tritium> I don't advise you to use distributed java .debs, as distributing them is legally questionable
[06:52] <ColonelKernel> and i have to say, regardless of my impatient complaints about incompatibility between hoary-2.6.13+ , ubuntu is by far the best distro ive ever tried
[06:52] <tritium> I'd advise you to build your own .deb with java-package
[06:52] <nathan_> Well, I've switched from Mandrake to ubuntu.  Couldn't be happier
[06:52] <robbkidd> tritium: Can you add a !tell for the dpkg-reconfigure of xserver-xorg? :)
[06:52] <ColonelKernel> I havent tried it as a server - I prefer centos for server, but I'd happily use ubuntu if I had a corporation
[06:52] <tritium> robbkidd, what are you looking for?
[06:53] <ColonelKernel> why any company would use any version of windows on its workstations - its just scary
[06:53] <cesarin> nalioth: breezy
[06:53] <cesarin> tritum: tips to build my own ".DEB" ?
[06:53] <tritium> cesarin, it that no longer on the wiki page?
[06:53] <robbkidd> tritium: Something along the lines of "Your upgrade to Breezy broke X? Try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and let it rewrite your FILES section!"
[06:53] <cesarin> note, im running the AMD64 one
[06:53] <nathan_> ColonelKernel, I'd probably look to plain old debian on a server.  You can get commercial support for that now
[06:53] <ColonelKernel> tritium, theres a lot of support for what youre doing, just hit google
[06:53] <nalioth> cesarin: get java debs here http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[06:53] <nomasteryoda|w> ColonelKernel, the whole of the US govt relies on MS software and OS.... scary as hell
[06:53] <tritium> ColonelKernel, me?
[06:54] <cesarin> brb installing instructions
[06:54] <tritium> nomasteryoda|w, not entirely true, actually
[06:54] <ColonelKernel> nathan_, I use Centos for servers - its the only distro ive never had to ask a support question for
[06:54] <tritium> cesarin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions
[06:54] <nomasteryoda|w> tritium, yea, but the US AF is in bed with MS... i know that for a fact
[06:54] <robbkidd> Yoda: Not entirely.  Just quite a bit.
[06:54] <ColonelKernel> nomasteryoda|w, I know I used to be in the navy and I was astounded at how poor the security was
[06:54] <nomasteryoda|w> 20$ inccentive packages of MS Office .. i mean come on
[06:54] <nomasteryoda|w> ColonelKernel, true
[06:54] <nomasteryoda|w> gettiing better tho
[06:55] <nalioth> tritium: seveas' debs for breezy are available here. please make a note/link http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[06:55] <cesarin> btw, wich bittorrent client you guys recommend?
[06:55] <tritium> nomasteryoda|w, the national laboratories are building linux cluster, a lot of which are on tp500
[06:55] <cesarin> and I am already there tritium
[06:55] <ColonelKernel> nomasteryoda|w, yeah - but theres always that 0$ incentive package on openoffice, and never having to worry about rasndom virii
[06:55] <ritalin> alright guys iso is burned, wish me luck!
[06:55] <ritalin> when next we speak it will be on ubuntu
[06:55] <Slant_Laptop> When I try to connect to a WPA secured network, n-m only allows WEP keys.
[06:56] <nathan_> hmmm
[06:56] <robbkidd> Ubuntu is here. Now it's a party.
[06:56] <cesarin> nalioth: these are the i386 versions, Im using Breezy's AMD64
[06:56] <cesarin> ColonelKernel, you sure know how to "graphically" explain risks of windows :P
[06:57] <nalioth> cesarin: then follow tritium's build suggestion
[06:57] <Madpilot> ColonelKernel: now that's graphic...
[06:57] <cesarin> nalioth, : ok thank you anyway
[06:57] <robbkidd> Col.Kern: That's pretty much the way we've been explaining things to our superiors.  Windows is a whore who'll spread her ports for anybody.
[06:57] <robbkidd> Aw. Party's over.
[06:58] <timmiz> Anyone familiar with fixing MBR: I installed ubuntu and mbr wrote over fedora's mbr installation, which was ok, now I want to remove GRUB using winxp recovery (but for some reason none of my 6 cd's will go into recovery, i get black screen). Forum's say sometimes grub will corrupt stuff and winxp recovery wont work. I do have Hiren's boot cd and noticed a couple of mbr tools, is anyone familiar with hiren's cd? or know of a way to remove grub wi
[06:58] <ColonelKernel> cesarin, I used to be a navy hospital corpsman and has seen some rather gruesome stuff relating to irresponsible use of ones genetalia w/o prophylactics
[06:58] <ColonelKernel> havbe
[06:58] <Antioch> didnt you just try going into recovery console and doing fixmbr?
[06:59] <robbkidd> Antioch: I get the sense that the recovery console won't come up for him.
[06:59] <ColonelKernel> three words for you men that will keep you using condoms - super mario crothers.
[06:59] <ColonelKernel> brothers
[06:59] <bob2> timmiz: why bother?
[06:59] <cesarin> ColonelKernel, ewww
[06:59] <robbkidd> Col.Kern: [blink] 
[06:59] <cesarin> tritium, : should I modify the .h files , like it says in the instructions?
[07:00] <cesarin> tritium, note that im using breezy 64 bits version
[07:00] <ColonelKernel> cesarin, i only had to tell my marines once, if they showed up with symptoms theyd really be hating life.
[07:00] <cesarin> ColonelKernel,  but not sure if they will choice quick when they have 1.- or to protect their m4's with a condom, to prevent sand
[07:00] <cesarin> or 2.- protect themselves :P
[07:01] <timmiz> bob2 cause my mbr is currupted i think, I use to be able to insert WinXP before , but now it wont work
[07:01] <ColonelKernel> cesarin, there's always free condoms from doc.
[07:01] <bob2> timmiz: your ubuntu grub install isn't configured to boot windows?
[07:01] <cesarin> ColonelKernel, yay! , gimme :P
[07:01] <cesarin> tritium,  you there?
[07:01] <bob2> windows must be shockingly buggy to refuse to install it's own bootloader there
[07:01] <tritium> cesarin, I'm not sure about amd64
[07:01] <ColonelKernel> i'd WAY rather pass out condoms than play whack the gopher on someone
[07:01] <cesarin> I supose ill give it a try witouth modigiying the files, if it doesnt work, ill do edit
[07:01] <robbkidd> 64. [sigh] 
[07:02] <cesarin> since the instructions clearly says "for hoary"
[07:02] <bob2> ColonelKernel: please try to stay on-topic
[07:02] <ColonelKernel> sorry bob2
[07:02] <robbkidd> Those darn analogies getting away from us.
[07:03] <bob2> people still overclock?
[07:03] <robbkidd> Many do, yes.
[07:03] <ColonelKernel> bob2, absolutely- especially to save 700 dollars on a processor
[07:04] <ColonelKernel> you can o/c a sempron64 to out-perform an fx-55
[07:04] <bob2> what are you doing that's CPU-bound, tho?
[07:04] <ColonelKernel> 62.99 vs someungodlyamountofmoney
[07:05] <ColonelKernel> bob2, gaming, dvd compression, kernel compilation
[07:05] <shekhar> help i am having problems with scp on ubuntu
[07:05] <bob2> the former seems to very rarely be cpu-bound, and the latter is basically obsolete now there's ccache and distro kernels
[07:06] <ColonelKernel> bob2, please dont be so "#debian" about the kernel stuff - lots of people need custom kernels
[07:06] <robbkidd> Ha!
[07:06] <bob2> ColonelKernel: seriously? what for?
[07:06] <Tomcat_> shekhar: Any error messages or symptoms?
[07:06] <robbkidd> I laugh, though I've not felt the need to roll my own in a couple years.
[07:07] <Tomcat_> I have never felt the need for a custom kernel in Debian or Ubuntu... there's everything in it anyway.
[07:07] <ColonelKernel> low latency for recording, custom setups for bootable cdroms, firewalling, clustering, etc
[07:07] <bob2> ColonelKernel: you don't need one for "firewalling"
[07:07] <bob2> the others could be legit, but are like << 1% of users
[07:07] <ColonelKernel> bob2, YOU may not need one, some other people might.
[07:07] <robbkidd> bob2: I think it falls under the "only what you need" approach to security hosts.
[07:07] <shekhar> Tomcat_: ubuntu just freezes up after about 10-15 minutes of scp transfer from a mac osx terminal on a crossover cable
[07:07] <bob2> #debian is down on it because idiots insist they need to for no reason and waste everyone's time
[07:07] <timmiz> bob2: grub will let me boot to windows and ubuntu. I want to uninstall all existance of linux. Normally I would first insert winxp cd, recovery, fixmbr.. but for some reason none of my cd's will get past the "detecting hardware" screen. What other methods are there to remove grub and replace it with original mbr?
[07:07] <ColonelKernel> bob2, then perhaps im <1%
[07:08] <bob2> ColonelKernel: if you say so
[07:08] <ColonelKernel> I do say so
[07:08] <nalioth> ColonelKernel: the people who "might" need a custom kernel, usually know how to make one
[07:08] <ColonelKernel> if anything, configuring/compiling ones own kernel helps one not to be completely clueless
[07:08] <bob2> not really
[07:09] <Tomcat_> shekhar: Had that problem with other transfer methods like FTP, HTTP, Samba? Check your syslog and dmesg right after it freezes... I once had the problem that my wireless firmware was crashing, and that was written to dmesg.
[07:09] <ColonelKernel> nalioth, correct.
[07:09] <bob2> the same way gentoo users are rarely actually more skilled than non-gentoo users
[07:09] <timmiz> anyone know how to remove grub, without runing winxp recovery cd?
[07:09] <shekhar> Tomcat_: how do i check dmesg or logs?
[07:09] <esac> everytime i boot, it switches my nameserver to my gateway (192.168.0.1) which doesn't work and i have to manually edit resolv.conf everytime and fix it. any ideas ?
[07:09] <bob2> timmiz: that sounds a lot like a windows issue
[07:10] <bob2> timmiz: try #windows
[07:10] <bob2> timmiz: tho removing it is more or less pointless, since grub will happily boot windows anyway
[07:10] <ColonelKernel> timmiz, youre gonna need the recovery console if you wanna remove grub
[07:10] <bob2> esac: sounds like your dhcp server is misconfigured
[07:10] <esac> bob2: i'll check my router settings and see
[07:11] <mochi> what are the minimum requirements for ubuntu?
[07:11] <ColonelKernel> otherwise youd be better off keeping grub and using it until you can locate a windows cd
[07:11] <Tomcat_> shekhar: "less /var/log/syslog" and "dmesg | less"
[07:11] <Tomcat_> shekhar: syslog might tell you anything about the freeze... dmesg might have info about crashing drivers or hardware.
[07:11] <nathan_> timmiz, the only way I know of to do it is, under windows command prompt FORMAT C: \MBR
[07:11] <sebasfnm> mochi, at least I'd say 256MB RAM, but you can get with 128MB by handpicking packages
[07:12] <ColonelKernel> it'd be a lil slow with 128 tho
[07:12] <Tomcat_> shekhar: Apart from that, I can't suggest anything else... never had that problem, and no idea where it could come from. The logs might give you something to search on Google, or ask again, though.
[07:12] <mochi> ok thanks, ill begin installing now..
[07:12] <sebasfnm> that is why I say by handpicking packages
[07:12] <sebasfnm> I tested it with 128 and it was VERY slow in the standard installation
[07:12] <lazlo> has anyone here able to do a apt-get install anjuta
[07:12] <lazlo> ??
[07:12] <lazlo> and work
[07:12] <lazlo> ?
[07:13] <dr_willis> hmm let me try :P
[07:13] <sebasfnm> but with 256 and a decent processor (at least PIII 700 or similar) it should work
[07:13] <johnnybezak> hey guys i've got a wierd sound problem. even when I turn the master volume down, sound still works. there seems to be a volume control that I can't have access to. anyone know how i can find it/tweak it. in alsa mixer even with everything turned off there is still sound
[07:13] <sebasfnm> with Gnome of course
[07:13] <ColonelKernel> im gonna try out breezy livecd
[07:13] <sebasfnm> Johnny, which card do you have?
[07:13] <bob2> lazlo: it'd be easier if you told u what didn't work for you
[07:14] <ColonelKernel> I have to give mad props to the developers of ubuntu
[07:14] <lazlo> apt-get doesnt work for me
[07:14] <lazlo> i configured it to get stuff from  the internet
[07:14] <lazlo> and i cant get anything
[07:14] <sebasfnm> have you tried apt-get --clean?
[07:14] <lazlo> nope
[07:14] <lazlo> ill do it now
[07:14] <robbkidd> Mad props seconded!
[07:14] <ColonelKernel> bob2, if you live near tucson az , i might be able to hook you up with a money making opportunity with very little effort from you
[07:15] <sebasfnm> and check that the correct sources are marked of course
[07:15] <lazlo> E: Command line option --clean is not understood
[07:15] <sebasfnm> type apt-get --help and see if there's an option to clean the system
[07:16] <johnnybezak> anyone know of like an "alsamixer" for the esd?
[07:16] <esac> anybody know why gaim isn't working with yahoo ?
[07:16] <sebasfnm> esac, for me it's working
[07:17] <sebasfnm> johnny, which is your sound card?
[07:17] <ColonelKernel> esac, yahoo recently upgraded their client and some things are working rather, um , fecally?
[07:17] <bob2> johnnybezak: esd outputs to alsa
[07:17] <benjamin1254> yeah a patch just came out
[07:17] <esac> it briefly pops up a windows saying the normal authentication method failed, then it closes it quickly and just pops up a dialog asking to reconnect
[07:17] <benjamin1254> u need 2 update
[07:17] <sebasfnm> so... should I expect the problem soon?
[07:17] <esac> benjamin1254: i just upgraded my breezy install about 2 hours ago
[07:17] <sebasfnm> because I'm correctly connected....
[07:17] <lazlo> you are not suppose to put --
[07:18] <johnnybezak> bob2: you got any idea why my sound is still on even when I turn everything off?
[07:18] <sebasfnm> so, try apt-get clean
[07:18] <bob2> lazlo: so, "doesnt work" is not a useful description of the problem
[07:18] <benjamin1254> esac gaim works fine for me i had to update cuz of the same issue
[07:18] <cesarin> anyone recommends a good winamp-like mp3 player?
[07:18] <bob2> lazlo: if you want help, paste the full output of apt, including your command, to #flood
[07:18] <cat> cesarin: xmms
[07:18] <bob2> cesarin: xmms, fsvo "good"
[07:18] <cesarin> xmm? thanks cat!
[07:18] <robbkidd> cesarin: The gold standard is XMMS.
[07:18] <cat> np
[07:18] <cesarin> *goes to search for it*
[07:18] <bob2> johnnybezak: perhaps turn the oss channels down, too; with amixer
[07:19] <jenni> hello ubuntu-ers
[07:19] <robbkidd> casarin: I've discovered Amarok recently, though, and lurve it.
[07:19] <sebasfnm> hi jenni
[07:19] <robbkidd> Hallo, Jenni.
[07:19] <jenni> so, when is the offical Breezy badger release coming out?
[07:19] <ColonelKernel> jenni, oct 13
[07:19] <benjamin1254> cesarin i do if u get a mp3 lib file u should be able to use ur mp3's im xmms
[07:19] <robbkidd> October by the numbering scheme.
[07:19] <sebasfnm> though I'm not an ubuntuer, I enjoy this place
[07:19] <jenni> cool, I can't wait
[07:19] <bob2> benjamin1254: no, xmms works regardless of any special library installation
[07:19] <jenni> has anyone in here upgraded to the preview release?
[07:20] <finn_> jenni, i installed the preview release
[07:20] <robbkidd> jenni: A number of us have.  Very few problems.
[07:20] <cesarin> the sinaptic thingie, trows me thousands of "XMMS" related files
[07:20] <benjamin1254> i had 2 get the lib to get mine to work ^_^
[07:20] <ColonelKernel> sebasfnm, it is by far a much more positive environment than any "support" channel ive ever been to - i'd actually reccomend my mother to come here
[07:20] <jenni> that's excellent
[07:20] <bob2> benjamin1254: do you mean libmikmod to work around the nvidia driver bug?
[07:20] <robbkidd> cesarin: Easiest at a command prompt: "sudo apt-get install xmms"
[07:20] <benjamin1254> my mp3s just dident work without the lib file
[07:20] <jenni> did you apt-get update and that was it?
[07:20] <ColonelKernel> has anyone tried installing a vanilla kernel on the preview release?
[07:20] <bob2> benjamin1254: and the name of the lib is?
[07:20] <johnnybezak> beep-media-player is better than xmms though. gtk2+
[07:20] <robbkidd> jenni: That and a reconfigure of X.org.
[07:21] <benjamin1254> its been a while bob2 i just dont remember
[07:21] <benjamin1254> i dont have it off hand'
[07:21] <cesarin> found it
[07:21] <robbkidd> jenni: But once I found the recommendation to reconfigure X.org it was painless.
[07:21] <cesarin> robbkidd, thanks again!
[07:21] <ColonelKernel> xmms rocks
[07:21] <sebasfnm> agree ColonelKernel, this is an excelent place, I come here even I use slackware
[07:21] <cesarin> btw, anyone has having troubles with their 5 button mouses?
[07:21] <wolfie> hey yall I was wondering if someone could help me with a problem
[07:21] <robbkidd> cesarin: Your welcome. I have to make up for annoying tritium earlier.
[07:22] <sebasfnm> sure wolfie
[07:22] <cesarin> I got a Microsoft Intellimouse explorer v3, and the buttons (mousewhell and forward-return) buttons doesnt work
[07:22] <robbkidd> cesarin: Nope, but I find that I never click on buttons 4 and 5.
[07:22] <tritium> nah, you didn't annoy me, robbkidd
[07:22] <timmiz> I actually fixed MBR without winxp CD , I remembered that HIREN's CD had a tool for repairing MBR's, it basically overwrote the grub and inserted the original :)
[07:22] <wolfie> I am tryig to get azureus to work and I cant get it any ideas
[07:22] <cesarin> robbkidd, :; I use it a lot in mozilla firefox :P
[07:22] <joshisscifi> wireless!!!
[07:22] <cesarin> same with the mousehwell
[07:22] <tritium> jenni, you shouldn't even need to reconfigure xorg
[07:22] <ColonelKernel> sebasfnm, this is by far the best linux chanel ive ever come to
[07:23] <benjamin1254> HIREN's cd where can i get that?
[07:23] <joshisscifi> so far everything I need to have working, is working
[07:23] <robbkidd> tritium: Have the xorg packages resolved the font path issue?
[07:23] <bob2> wolfie: you need to be a lot more specific about your issue if you want hep
[07:23] <lazlo> it says that those things are not accesible....
[07:23] <ColonelKernel> I havent recieved any harassment at all, even if I ask something retarded
[07:23] <joshisscifi> only problem, is that the first time I actually got my wireless connected, the laptop froze up...
[07:23] <bob2> wolfie: e.g. tell us what you've done, and what isn't working
[07:23] <lazlo> i was wondering are the available
[07:23] <joshisscifi> but its working for the moment heh
[07:23] <sebasfnm> Yepp, completely agree
[07:23] <bob2> lazlo: I don't see the information I asked for in #flood yet
[07:23] <sebasfnm> besides that, problems between distros are not do far away of each other
[07:24] <benjamin1254> some are newbies some are experts regardless we are all here to help
[07:24] <ColonelKernel> and bob2 , I know I ask things that get on your nerves sometimes, and why you arent heading some major corporations tech suppt dept is beyond me
[07:24] <tritium> robbkidd, I don't know which issue you're referring to.  The only issue I've seen is the udev one
[07:24] <bob2> ColonelKernel: because I'd kill everyone?
[07:24] <lazlo> okay ill put it right now
[07:24] <wolfie> I am trying to get the java installed to use it
[07:24] <robbkidd> cesarin: What does your Device stanza in /etc/X11/xorg.conf contain?
[07:24] <ColonelKernel> bob2, either that, or you'd be driving a caddy with a prototype DOD 16 cyl engine to work...
[07:24] <robbkidd> tritium: Hmm.  Lemme see if I can find some info on it for you ...
[07:24] <timmiz> benjamin1254, you can try a google search, I have 6.0 but theres 7.1 out, it will fix anything (partitionmagic, ghost, fdisk, alternative mbr, etc..) , the iso is like 50megs
[07:25] <benjamin1254> thanks
[07:25] <timmiz> or i can dcc you the .iso
[07:26] <cesarin> the classic PS/2
[07:26] <wolfie> is there an easier way than having to open every single file
[07:26] <cesarin> and "emulate" 3rd button
[07:26] <cesarin> let me give it a check
[07:26] <benjamin1254> hiren has a 7.2 disk out :D
[07:26] <lazlo> i put it already :)
[07:27] <bob2> lazlo: emacs in the emacs21 package
[07:27] <lazlo> how do you knwo?
[07:27] <lazlo> know?
[07:27] <cesarin> Identifier "Configured Mouse"
[07:27] <cesarin> driver "mouse"
[07:28] <bob2> lazlo: because I've been using emacs in debian/ubuntu since 2001
[07:28] <guest_> hi
[07:28] <guest_> asl plsssssssssss
[07:28] <cesarin> Option "emulate3buttons" "true"
[07:28] <cesarin> option "corepointer"
[07:28] <lazlo> well how can i find out for other packages?
[07:28] <bob2> cesarin: please don't paset config files in here
[07:28] <SubtleCaffeine> does breezy preview install sshd by default?
[07:28] <bob2> lazlo: use apt-cache search
[07:28] <cesarin> bob2: im writing them manually
[07:28] <lazlo> ok
[07:28] <bob2> SubtleCaffeine: no version of ubuntu has ever done that
[07:28] <bimberi> lazlo: or use the search function in Synaptic
[07:28] <SubtleCaffeine> pj
[07:28] <SubtleCaffeine> oh
[07:28] <SubtleCaffeine> hrmmm
[07:28] <bob2> cesarin: nonetheless, it's a lot of text; try #flood or pasetebin.ca
[07:29] <cesarin> its just 3 lines -_-
[07:29] <DewDude> cuz i don't remember doing it on here
[07:29] <cesarin> robbkidd,  want me to PM you the info?
[07:29] <bobby> I always install sshd right away :P
[07:29] <DewDude> ok
[07:30] <lazlo> look at my new flood
[07:30] <lazlo> i did the apt-config.. and it found the ftp mirrors..
[07:30] <lazlo> why is it still looking for my cd
[07:30] <wolfie> it says that I need Sun Java 1.4.2 or better to run it I downloaded it off the internet and I keep havign to open every single file and I am tryig to figure out if there is an easier way than what I am doing
[07:30] <robbkidd> tritium: Well, crap.  I can't find my sources on this issue.  My experience had been upgrading to Hoary installs to Breezy within about 48 hours of each other.  Both failed to start X because of missing fonts; the paths were incorrect.  I found a thread from May suggesting a dpkg-reconfigure, which worked for me since it rewrote the font paths.
[07:30] <finn_> who currently updates doc.ubuntu.com? the bit on how to install java needs some work (mainly update-alternatives needs to be run)
[07:30] <joshisscifi> my multimedia keys work!!!!
[07:30] <joshisscifi> out of the box... .wow
[07:30] <robbkidd> tritium: This was ..oh.. late last week.
[07:30] <bobby> lazlo, you have to disable your cdrom source
[07:31] <robbkidd> cesarin: Sure.
[07:31] <lazlo> oh......
[07:31] <lazlo> how do i go about doing that?
[07:31] <bob2> lazlo: because you have apt configured to use the cd
[07:31] <bob2> lazlo: edit /etc/apt/sources.list to disable it
[07:31] <deFrysk> joshisscifi, here too hehe
[07:31] <tritium> robbkidd, okay, I'm referring to more recent issues
[07:31] <bobby> lazlo, the easiest way that I know of is from the console type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and add a # at the start of the first line then save and exit
[07:32] <LaserLine> Hello all, I have a Fujitsu Siemens S-4546 Laptop. It's a P3-600Mhz (M) It has SpeedStep technology. When i put it to AUTO in the bios, the Gnome battery monitor changes when i plug it in and when i plug it out of the AC cable. but running 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' gives me always 500Mhz. When I put it to Max Pref. in the BIOS, 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' gives me 600Mhz but the battery monitor doesn't change from battery to AC and vice versa..... Any
[07:32] <joshisscifi> I am so glad my professor told me about Ubuntu lol
[07:32] <robbkidd> tritium: More recent than late last week?  Damn you guys are fast.
[07:32] <lazlo> okay
[07:32] <tritium> robbkidd, heh, things change daily
[07:32] <bobby> is breezy stable yet?
[07:33] <bob2> bobby: no
[07:33] <joshisscifi> bobby, it is for me so far lol
[07:33] <robbkidd> bobby: Only for certain values of "stable."
[07:33] <robbkidd> bobby: *Released*? No.
[07:33] <cesarin> robbkidd, ok done
[07:33] <bobby> okay - any eta? I'm busy in my own little world of debian sid, though my whole family uses ubuntu :P
[07:33] <LaserLine> Anyone has an Idea about the Issue i posted ?
[07:33] <tritium> next month, bobby
[07:33] <lazlo> thank you
[07:33] <lazlo> you are a life saver
[07:34] <ColonelKernel> bobby, oct 13
[07:34] <bobby> tritium, thanks
[07:34] <bobby> cool :D
[07:34] <deFrysk> joshisscifi, you have a good professor :)
[07:34] <bob2> LaserLine: it seems kinda unlikely that the kernel is aware of what the bios is doing
[07:34] <joshisscifi> yeah I do lol
[07:34] <bobby> will the upgrade be simple? like a dist-upgrade or will it be a reformat + install deal?
[07:34] <LaserLine> bob2 What does that mean ?
[07:34] <tritium> it will be simple, bobby.  See the topic for upgrade notes
[07:34] <joshisscifi> MDK LE 2005 wouldn't even detect my sata drives on this laptop, gentoo was a PITA, and FC is just boring
[07:35] <bob2> LaserLine: if the bios is changing the clock speed under the kernel, it may not know it's happening at all
[07:35] <marc`> i seem to have crashed XMMS
[07:35] <LaserLine> bob2 ohh, so that 'cat /proc/cpuinfo is faking ?
[07:35] <bobby> marc`, not hard :P
[07:36] <bobby> killall xmms and start it again
[07:36] <marc`> what happened to CTRL ALT DEL
[07:36] <bob2> LaserLine: well, it's telling you what the kernel thinks, not what is really happening
[07:36] <marc`> :(
[07:36] <LaserLine> bob2 Is there a tool that lets you monitor the cpuspeed in real time ? I know Windows' System Properties shows you that CPU clock speed and Actuel clockspeed on Centrino....
[07:36] <zaphar_ps> I have a problem with ubuntu not automatically mounting my sata drive at boot
[07:36] <bob2> LaserLine: on centrino the kernel knows all about it
[07:36] <bob2> zaphar_ps: /msg ubotu ntfs
[07:36] <bobby> marc`, gnome-system-monitor  map it to ctrl alt del under gnome keyboard shortcuts and you will have a mad task manager :D
[07:37] <marc`> i only just installed it, and tried to delete all the songs in the list, and it locked up
[07:37] <zaphar_ps> bob2: it's not ntfs its ext3
[07:37] <LaserLine> bob2 Why in centrino and not in P3-M ?
[07:37] <jmob> So, anyone know if gcc 4.x has better x86_64 support?  Can I expect Breezy to be faster for x86_64?
[07:37] <marc`> end process or kill process?
[07:37] <bobby> marc`, either
[07:38] <bobby> which ever one works :P
[07:38] <BenderNZ> hi - is anyone able to help me get speed stepping/scaling working with my turion in hoary?
[07:38] <marc`> kill works
[07:38] <LaserLine> bob2 Have an idea why Centrino is Kernel supported and the P3-M isn't ?
[07:38] <bobby> marc`, xmms is very stable for me and at any one time I have many thousands of songs in the play list - not sure why it crashed for you :|
[07:39] <zaphar_ps> the problem seems to be that the sata device is not there when it does the filesystem checks and mounts drives at boot time
[07:39] <BenderNZ> xmms used to crash for me if some of my songs had corrupt id3 tags
[07:39] <bob2> zaphar_ps: then add it to /etc/fstab manually
[07:39] <joshisscifi> is 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' 's report of bogomips and est.?
[07:39] <zaphar_ps> It is in fstab
[07:39] <bob2> LaserLine: because on centrino the kernel (linux or windows) is in charge
[07:39] <bob2> LaserLine: on p3s the bios does it, regardless of the OS
[07:40] <marc`> i only had 150 songs in the list
[07:40] <joshisscifi> an estimate, not and lol
[07:40] <zaphar_ps> bob2: it is in fstab but the fsck gives an error trying to find the device during the boot process
[07:40] <bob2> zaphar_ps: ok
[07:40] <zaphar_ps> I can mount it just fine after boot
[07:40] <zaphar_ps> it's just a pain is all
[07:41] <LaserLine> bob2 Thanks ! So I guess there aren't any tools to monitor the cpu speed because they will get false values from the kernel and what actuelly happens in the CPU...
[07:41] <bob2> LaserLine: they could ask the bios, but I don't know if any to do that exist or not
[07:42] <LaserLine> bob2 Thanks A lot !
[07:42] <zaphar_ps> do sata device nodes get created after the filesystem check? and if so is there a way to force their creation sooner?
[07:43] <joshisscifi> zaphar, I wouldn't think that its after the check, because my lappy is sata and boots fine
[07:43] <karen> is there a yahoo messenger for Ubuntu Linux 5.10
[07:43] <benjamin1254> hi karen
[07:43] <karen> hi
[07:43] <benjamin1254> yes
[07:43] <joshisscifi> karen: ayttm
[07:43] <benjamin1254> it is gaim karen
[07:43] <karen> i'm new to this whole thing, actually feel stupid
[07:44] <rigel> is there like a metronome or a drum machine program out there for ubu?
[07:44] <nathan_> what's the thing that gets fan speed and cpu frequency info?  I can't remember what it's called
[07:44] <benjamin1254> karen: it is called gaim
[07:44] <zaphar_ps> hrmm then why does it give an error saying special device /dev/sda1 not found when trying to mount at boot
[07:44] <tritium> karen, the download from yahoo doesn't work all that well.  gaim is a better choice
[07:44] <benjamin1254> karen: it is simple to set up and easy to use
[07:44] <marc`> locked up again, i hit play
[07:44] <cesarin> tritium,  I created a .deb file now
[07:44] <marc`> looking good so far
[07:45] <cesarin> but it refuses to DPKG -i It, any suggestions?
[07:45] <karen> thanks for your help.....
[07:45] <tritium> cesarin, what happens when you try?
[07:45] <cesarin> it says "error processing <name of the file> (--install) : cannot access file : file or directory doesnt exist . errors found <name of the file>
[07:46] <cesarin> and yes, I do have the file right infront of me
[07:46] <cesarin> and I wrote it 3 times to be sure I typed it correctly
[07:46] <marc`> xmms wins at not working.
[07:47] <r0bnyc> why doesnt ubuntu comes with the new-human theme?
[07:47] <bob2> cesarin: er, you need to show us the real error
[07:47] <bob2> in #flood
[07:47] <joshisscifi> is OpenOffice's Save AutoRecovery information every <min> the same as Office's autosave?
[07:48] <esac__> ive had the system completely freeze on me twice now. i'd like to help out if possible but i dont know how to debug an issue like this. any ideas ?
[07:48] <cesarin> tritium: want me to message you to send you a copy & paste of the error?
[07:49] <tritium> cesarin, in #flood
[07:50] <cesarin> ok, done
[07:50] <zaphar_ps> AHA
[07:50] <robbkidd> BRB
[07:50] <zaphar_ps> I think I found the solution
[07:51] <heatxsink> wow, so has that udev update been fixed?
[07:51] <heatxsink> awesome
[07:51] <heatxsink> nm
[07:51] <heatxsink> just saw the topic
[07:51] <benjamin1254> does anyone know how to fix the problem with gaim.. it doesent wana save modified or any picture for that fact.. it will open them modify them but not save them
[07:51] <benjamin1254> gimp
[07:51] <benjamin1254> im srry
[07:51] <benjamin1254> i get the 2 messed up
[07:52] <bob2> lazlo: that version of anjuta is in ubuntu already...
[07:52] <cesarin> damn, robb kid, and I wanted to thank him
[07:53] <lazlo> what is a preprocessor?
[07:53] <lazlo> i put out put in flood
[07:53] <lazlo> i have not found it
[07:53] <lazlo> i did a cache search like a maniac
[07:53] <bob2> lazlo: dude
[07:53] <bob2> lazlo: /msg ubotu repositories
[07:53] <bob2> it's in universe
[07:54] <zaphar_ps> rebooting to see if this fixes the problem
[07:57] <joshisscifi> bbial
[07:57] <marc`> what audio player would people reccomend if not XMMS?
[07:57] <esac__> has anybody gotten vmware runnin ?
[07:57] <jmob> marc`: rhythmbox
[07:58] <BenderNZ> lsongs is a very nice looking player
[07:58] <BenderNZ> tis a shame the support for other distros apart from linspire is somewhat crap
[07:58] <marc`> im looking at a list of win/linux equivalents and it mentions winamp on the linux side aswell
[07:59] <nalioth> marc`: it means xmms
[08:00] <chavo> esac_ I have vmware running
[08:00] <rusty-> On Ubuntu, When requesting listening to online radio, i.e listening to streaming audio online. I get that "rhythmbox" poping up as (default). How can I let XMMS always take the priority as a default player Is there a way geting that rhythmbox thing out of the way ?? It does not work either.. For saved files we do that from Properties > Open with.. But for streaming audio .. Uhh.. no way..
[08:00] <esac__> chavo: you running 5.0 or 5.5 ?
[08:01] <chavo> esac_ 5.0, I tried the beta but my vm's were dog slow
[08:01] <Hmmmm> rusty-, are u getting the links for the radio stations using firefox?
[08:02] <esac__> chavo: you running breezy ?
[08:02] <chavo> esac_ yes
[08:02] <rusty-> Hmmmm, yeah
[08:02] <esac__> odd. i installed it, and then i go to open it and it doesnt start. if i run /usr/bin/vmware it dies saying i havent configured it. if i reconfigure it and try again, it does again
[08:03] <esac__> chavo: do you sudo to install it ?
[08:03] <chavo> esac_ hold on, I found a different setup program on a forum somewhere
[08:03] <chavo> let me dig it up
[08:03] <esac> ok
[08:03] <bob2> esac: vmware 5.0 will crash breezy's kernel
[08:04] <aftertaf> yop :)
[08:04] <bob2> esac: you need the any2any patch, it seems
[08:04] <chavo> that's waht it was
[08:04] <Bugfly> Hello to all
[08:04] <chavo> esac http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65638
[08:04] <esac> bob2: that might explain the random freezes ive been seeing ?
[08:05] <chavo> esac yes that will fix it, follow that link
[08:05] <esac> thanks chavo
[08:05] <chavo> 5.5 works without it, but like I said it's way slow
[08:05] <chavo> no problem
[08:05] <Bugfly> Can i post a question regarding Ubuntu
[08:05] <rusty-> Hmmmm, ?
[08:05] <aftertaf> Bugfly:  youre in the right place, ask away
[08:07] <Bugfly> i just install Ubuntu a week ago and all went well i have it set to dnload up dates
[08:07] <cesarin> well, this is a weird error
[08:07] <cesarin> tritium couldnt help me
[08:07] <esac> ok my system is starting to get into a hosed state. now i ran sudo apt-get install g++-3.4 and it just hung there
[08:08] <Bugfly> tonite when i attempted to start system it went to terminal mode ans sayas something the best i can tell is involvingmonitor / graphic
[08:08] <oca> is there a way to join ubuntu to Samba?
[08:09] <bimberi> !+samba
[08:09] <ubotu> hmm... samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[08:09] <Bugfly> i am now using the live cd
[08:09] <esac> chavo: any idea how to uninstall vmware ?
[08:09] <chavo> esac run vmware-uninstall.pl as root
[08:10] <Hmmmm> sorry rusty- went to get me a beer
[08:10] <chavo> it should be in your path
[08:10] <rusty-> Hmmmm, no problem
[08:10] <rusty-> Hmmmm, take your time
[08:10] <esac> chavo: dang that would be great but everytime i sudo something it freezes on me
[08:10] <Hmmmm> so as i was saying, you can ask firefox to remember the application you want it to open the file with
[08:10] <nalioth> Bugfly: the next few updates should fix your problem
[08:10] <nalioth> aftertaf: howdy
[08:10] <rusty-> Hmmmm, How can I let XMMS always take the priority as a default player
[08:11] <bimberi> Bugfly: are you using hoary or breezy?
[08:11] <aftertaf> re nalioth .... hmm. whil i disappear every 5 mins today?
[08:11] <Hmmmm> rusty-, im trying it out on my computer
[08:11] <r0bnyc> how do i change my gdm image?
[08:11] <Bugfly> i am totally new to this OS........ i can not log on or should i say i dont know how from text screen...i think Breezy
[08:12] <Hmmmm> rusty-, when u click on the link firefox will ask you what app to open it with
[08:12] <bimberi> r0bnyc: System -> Administration -> Login Screen Setup
[08:12] <Hmmmm> select xmms. have you gotten that far?
[08:12] <r0bnyc> ty bimberi
[08:12] <bimberi> r0bby: yw :)
[08:13] <timmiz> in boot, how do i test that cd was burnt properly?
[08:13] <bimberi> Bugfly: if it's breezy then what nalioth said should apply.
[08:13] <robbkidd> Welcome back, r0bnyc.
[08:13] <r0bnyc> robbkidd, thanks
[08:13] <r0bnyc> i been adding themes, icons etc :)
[08:13] <r0bnyc> i got the new-human
[08:14] <r0bnyc> u guys should get some system sysinfo scripts like the ones i have
[08:14] <bimberi> Bugfly: But it would be good to write the error down and come back with the text.
[08:14] <ritalin> r0bby, vPenis? ;)
[08:14] <nalioth> Bugfly: your login is the same text or graphical
[08:14] <ritalin> err r0bnyc
[08:14] <r0bnyc> yea
[08:14] <bimberi> Bugfly: Also, if you're networking is ok you can log into text mode and type "irc" to get a text irc client
[08:15] <ritalin> ubuntu is great!
[08:15] <ritalin> <---just installed
[08:15] <oca> ubotu: thanks
[08:15] <ubotu> oca: gern geschehen
[08:15] <r0bnyc> ritalin, same
[08:15] <ritalin> its so fast
[08:15] <cesarin> bimberi: I would use the iss one
[08:15] <oca> ubotu: what is that?
[08:15] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, oca
[08:15] <cesarin> irssi
[08:15] <timmiz> for notebooks to install breezy, do we always use nolapic acpi=off? or do i only need acpi=off
[08:15] <Bugfly> if i pwr dn and remove live cd system well boot to HD......ok i will remove live cd and try that BRB i hope
[08:15] <nalioth> somebody needs to tell ubotu this is an english channel
[08:15] <cesarin> more friendly for my tastes
[08:15] <aftertaf> ritalin:  :) yeahhhh
[08:15] <bimberi> cesarin: you mean irssi?
[08:15] <oca> ubuto: its about the samba
[08:16] <cesarin> yep that one
[08:16] <ritalin> aftertaf, Ive been mislead to think precompiled packages were slower
[08:16] <cesarin> since I found the default irc-text horrible
[08:16] <cesarin> lots of missing text & stuff :P
[08:16] <ritalin> this is faster then my gentoo box
[08:16] <bimberi> cesarin: iirc, the irc command runs irssi
[08:16] <robbkidd> r0bnyc: What's this about new human?
[08:16] <cesarin> bimberi,  fair enought :>
[08:16] <bimberi> cesarin: :)
[08:17] <r0bnyc> robbkidd, looks nicer man
[08:17] <cesarin> btw bimberi, you know how to install sun's java for x86_64 in breezy?
[08:17] <cesarin> it gives me weird errors
[08:17] <timmiz> ububoobuto
[08:17] <r0bnyc> javascript:self.close()
[08:17] <Hmmmm> rusty-, you fallen asleep?
[08:17] <r0bnyc> http://gnome-look.org/content/pre1/19894-1.jpg
[08:17] <cesarin> I already packed it to ".deb" file
[08:17] <r0bnyc> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=19894
[08:17] <cesarin> but when I try toinstall it, it says the file doesnt exist
[08:17] <bimberi> cesarin: no sorry :|
[08:17] <cesarin> ok no problem
[08:18] <cesarin> brb, gotta see if this fixes my mouse problem
[08:18] <cesarin> thanks in advance robbkidd
[08:19] <robbkidd> cesarin: Good luck.
[08:19] <robbkidd> Curses! Missed.
[08:19] <ritalin> heh
[08:19] <bimberi> cesarin: oh, so you have a .deb file, then "dpkg -i whatever.deb" should work
[08:20] <cafuego_> Woo, Linux crash!
[08:20] <bimberi> Curses! Missed too. :)
[08:21] <robbkidd> Heh.
[08:21] <robbkidd> cesarin's a man who has to have his mouse's thumb buttons.
[08:22] <caliber> Hi all.. What would I do from a fresh kubuntu amd64 install to get my Audigy 2 soundcard working?
[08:22] <caliber> Would I have to recompile the kernel?
[08:22] <BlueEagle> !audigy2
[08:22] <ubotu> No idea, BlueEagle
[08:22] <BlueEagle> I saw something about that
[08:22] <BlueEagle> !sound
[08:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[08:23] <caliber> thanks blue
[08:24] <ritalin> can someone explain removal and complete removal?
[08:24] <cesarin> omg... another error
[08:24] <ritalin> like whats the difference
[08:24] <cesarin> now it says "NO SCREENS FOUND"
[08:24] <BlueEagle> caliber: Is it just a single app that fails or is the device not found?
[08:24] <tensor> complete removal uninstalls and deletes the sources too
[08:24] <bimberi> ritalin: complete removal deletes configuration files
[08:24] <caliber> BlueEagle: How should I check? And I haven't even tried an APP, but KDE usually has sounds
[08:24] <Madpilot> ritalin: in Synapic? "Complete Removal" nukes the config files and such as well
[08:25] <cesarin> apart from sudoedit, what other command can I use to edit config files? like xorg.conf ?
[08:25] <cesarin> since sudoedit gives me permission denied to write
[08:25] <aftertaf> cesarin:  that is a fun problem.....
[08:25] <robbkidd> cesarin: Are you sure you only made changes in the mouse's Device section?
[08:25] <aftertaf> cesarin:  vim.
[08:25] <caliber> BlueEagle: let me a try a mp3 program
[08:25] <BlueEagle> caliber: alsamixer would tell you that no sound was found I guess.,
[08:25] <ritalin> ty guys
[08:25] <cesarin> aftertf: I just added stuff to make my mouse work, seems X didnt liked something :P
[08:25] <bimberi> cesarin: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:25] <cesarin> aftertaf:  full command please?
[08:25] <cesarin> ok
[08:25] <aftertaf> vim
[08:25] <caliber> BlueEagle: Oh crap
[08:26] <BlueEagle> caliber: also, alsa mixer has got everything muted by default.
[08:26] <aftertaf> vim is a cli editor....
[08:26] <robbkidd> nano is a safe one for you, cesarin.  VIM may be a bit much at this point.
[08:26] <caliber> BlueEagle: alsamixer is using my motherboard soundcard
[08:26] <caliber> BlueEagle: Audigy2 is in a PCI slot
[08:26] <aftertaf> robbkidd:  beter idea, yep!
[08:26] <BlueEagle> caliber: Well, then you run alsamixer -c1
[08:26] <BlueEagle> or -c2
[08:26] <cesarin> brb it might take a bit
[08:26] <cesarin> aftertaf:  thanks again, ill brb
[08:26] <BlueEagle> ..or capital C
[08:27] <nomad1> hey every1 where do i go to add a scanner
[08:27] <BlueEagle> ..or even better. If you don't use the internal sound card disable it in the BIOS.
[08:27] <caliber> BlueEagle: Interesting.. alsamixer -c1 is showing it supposedly just fine, but the controls dont look muted
[08:27] <cesarin> aftertaf: inside that program for editing, is there a way to find a "line" ? by number
[08:28] <BlueEagle> Well, then you might need to choose the correct sound device in kontrol panel.
[08:28] <aftertaf> cesarin:  never used nano....
[08:28] <cesarin> robbkidd: seems something got broken with the stuff I added for the mouse
[08:28] <nomad1> any1???
[08:28] <cesarin> aftertaf: ok.. Ill ask robbkidd
[08:28] <nomad1> i need to kno how to add a scanner
[08:28] <nomad1> or install it
[08:28] <cesarin> robbkidd: any idea how to find a certain text line # ?
[08:28] <BlueEagle> caliber: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/63/2005/07/4/337513
[08:28] <Madpilot> nomad1: check the Ubuntu wiki, and please stop using leetspeek...
[08:28] <cesarin> using "NANO"
[08:28] <aftertaf> cesarin:  at the start of xorg there is a coomand to recreate a clean xorg.conf... if it is borked, rename it and try the command...
[08:29] <caliber> BlueEagle: I'll read that, thanks :)
[08:29] <BlueEagle> caliber: anytime. :)
[08:29] <caliber> ooh nice
[08:29] <caliber> Audigy 2 ZS! my exact model
[08:29] <BlueEagle> caliber: Well, there you go. :)
[08:29] <BlueEagle> caliber: 2nd last post is the resolution.
[08:29] <robbkidd> cesarin: In nano? Not that I know of, but I'm a VIM guy.  Don't use nano.  I'm guessing that our tinkering with the mouse's Device section has screwed up one of the EndSection lines.
[08:30] <caliber> thanks brother :D
[08:30] <BlueEagle> caliber: People still ^5 other people?
[08:30] <BlueEagle> caliber: That's so 80-s :)
[08:30] <caliber> lol :)
[08:30] <caliber> i'm old-fashioned then i suppose
[08:30] <DMarin> Hi all
[08:30] <caliber> hi
[08:30] <cesarin> aftertaf: I find this a bit dumb, it now says the line 180 wich is suposed to be the keyboard settings to be damaged
[08:30] <BlueEagle> caliber: Still the internal sound card could cause you trouble so I would recomend disabling it in the bios.
[08:30] <cesarin> I havent touched the keyboard settings! :/
[08:30] <DMarin> anyone with problems with mono.posix in breezy?
[08:30] <caliber> BlueEagle: Yeah I'll go into BIOS if I can't figure out a way to select different cards
[08:31] <BlueEagle> caliber: :)
[08:31] <robbkidd> cesarin: Aah. Within nano, CTRL-C gives you current cursor postion.
[08:31] <cesarin> robbkidd:  found the error
[08:31] <robbkidd> cesarin: I bet the keyboard settings come after the mouse.  Something get scrambled in ending the mouse section.
[08:31] <robbkidd> Yea?
[08:32] <caliber> wheres 'kontrol panel'
[08:32] <BlueEagle> Well, I've done my share, so now I'll mount /dev/blueeagle /house/bedroom/bed and cat /etc/pillow_and_blanket >> /house/bedroom/bed
[08:32] <caliber> oh, control center
[08:32] <aftertaf> cesarin:  you got it???
[08:32] <robbkidd> It's just been so long since I wasted the wee hours of the night in IRC.  This is nostalgic.
[08:33] <benjamin1254> robbkid i have spent at least 30 hrs once in an irc chat :))
[08:33] <robbkidd> ben: Crikey.
[08:33] <aftertaf> * robbkidd is now called reminiscence
[08:33] <robbkidd> Heh.
[08:33] <parixit> hy
[08:34] <robbkidd> I haven't stayed up to 02:30 in IRC since ..like.. 1994.
[08:34] <cesarin> aftertaf:  the error is.. Its copied TWICE the same data
[08:34] <cesarin> Ie, I got 2 times the same config file in the same file
[08:34] <cesarin> like it was "ADDED" and not "overwrited"
[08:35] <caliber> BlueEagle: gah, looks like i better reboot into bios :)
[08:35] <robbkidd> Stoopid gedit.
[08:35] <caliber> brb =] 
[08:35] <cesarin> im atm deleting the "EXTRA"
[08:35] <robbkidd> Who recommended that anyway?
[08:35] <benjamin1254> robbkidd: how long ago was irc made cuz i bet that was back in the terminal days
[08:35] <cesarin> robbkidd:  you? :P
[08:35] <aftertaf> cesarin:  hehe,, save a copy too.....
[08:35] <cesarin> problem of this NANO editor is
[08:35] <cesarin> you cant select bunch of text
[08:35] <cesarin> thus deleting manually everything x_X
[08:35] <cesarin> and it takes a LOT :P
[08:36] <bimberi> cesarin: does <ctrl>K help?
[08:36] <spott> anyone know anything about azureus in breazy?
[08:37] <robbkidd> Well, I'm off to sleep.  cesarin, I wish you luck.  Sorry if I made a mess of things in your xorg.conf.
[08:37] <cafuego_> cesarin: Yes, vim is muche asier.
[08:37] <robbkidd> cesarin: Indeed. Learn vim.  Eventually you will embrace its power.
[08:37] <cafuego_> Are you editing on a remote host?
[08:37] <robbkidd> Very much NOT Notepad, though. Takes some learning.
[08:37] <marzbar> jey all
[08:37] <robbkidd> TTFN
[08:37] <marzbar> I am I am having problems with Xorg
[08:38] <marzbar> I have updated it....and its killed both computers
[08:38] <aftertaf> vim is fine. i started with it as a noob :)
[08:38] <cafuego_> killed?
[08:38] <marzbar> I cant get gdm to start
[08:38] <marzbar> :(
[08:38] <cafuego_> !info vim
[08:38] <ubotu> vim: (Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor), section editors, is optional. Version: 1:6.3-046+1ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 671 kB, Installed size: 1412 kB
[08:38] <aftertaf> marzbar:  do you have an eror message when you run startx ?
[08:38] <marzbar> yer
[08:38] <marzbar> its goto to do with mice
[08:38] <marzbar> i show you
[08:38] <cafuego_> marzbar: /var/log/Xorg.0.log Check for lines starting with (EE)
[08:38] <aftertaf> marzbar:  dont paste here...
[08:38] <cafuego_> marzbar: Breezy eh? that's been fixed in the latest update.
[08:39] <aftertaf> if its a core pointer problem. reupdate with apt and then reboot
[08:39] <aftertaf> hehe cafuego ;)
[08:39] <marzbar> ro
[08:39] <marzbar> yer its breezy :(
[08:39] <marzbar> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2425
[08:40] <opteek> ok, i aptgot sun2sdk1.5, and i do NOT have java functionality in mozilla
[08:40] <aftertaf> marzbar:  rerun update and upgrade, you need udev ubuntu14. then reboot !!!
[08:40] <marzbar> it kiled both gdm on my desktop and lapto
[08:40] <marzbar> okay
[08:40] <marzbar> i willl try that
[08:40] <marzbar> :)
[08:40] <cafuego_> There is no try.
[08:40] <Belutz> why everytime i plug my usb drive, ubuntu only mounts it to be read only? how do i make it writable?
[08:41] <bob2> Belutz: what filesystem is on it?
[08:41] <marzbar> i am gonna say its ntfs files system :)
[08:41] <cesarin> there
[08:41] <cafuego_> opteek: How can you apt-get that, when there are no packages due to license restrictions?
[08:41] <Belutz> bob2: fat32
[08:41] <cesarin> I had to reboot since the "X" got weird stuff
[08:41] <cesarin> but works fine, now to test the mouse
[08:41] <Belutz> bob2: oops sorry, fat 16
[08:41] <aftertaf> cesarin:  long live X, eh?? ;)
[08:42] <cafuego_> Stupid beagle can't index NTFS :-P
[08:42] <cesarin> ok it works :D
[08:42] <opteek> cafuego, im using an unofficial repository
[08:42] <cesarin> aftertaf,  im on X atm :P
[08:42] <cafuego_> nalioth: Thanks, I'm coding hard...
[08:42] <aftertaf> i gathered ;)
[08:42] <nalioth> opteek: you are tryin to break your box, if you are
[08:42] <cesarin> aftertaf, I swear and I repeat, every time I read "repository" my brain starts with a "supository" :P
[08:42] <cafuego_> opteek: Then don't expect support. Use the instructions from wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[08:42] <nalioth> opteek: are you running breezy on x86?
[08:43] <opteek> nalioth: hoary
[08:43] <marzbar> was udev causing the problems with the mice n things?>
[08:43] <cesarin> cafuego_,  been fighthing myself with sun's jav
[08:43] <id_sonic> who can visit google's homepage with lynx???
[08:43] <cesarin> I managed to get the .deb file
[08:43] <cesarin> but it refuses to pkg
[08:43] <cesarin> pgk command just trows a "cannot find directory or files" even with the .deb infront of its nose :P
[08:43] <atha> marzbar: yes
[08:43] <id_sonic> anyone?
[08:43] <marzbar> ahh okay
[08:43] <marzbar> :>
[08:43] <Bugfly> ok iam back with what i hope will provide more info
[08:43] <id_sonic> none?
[08:44] <marzbar> maybe now i can check my email again :S
[08:44] <nalioth> opteek: undo what you've done with your box and get some hoary java debs here http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[08:44] <cafuego_> cesarin: Then you ought to check the wiki page too.
[08:44] <id_sonic> who can visit google's homepage with lynx???
[08:44] <nalioth> opteek: unofficial repos will not do you any favors
[08:44] <cesarin> cafuego_, Im not dumb, where do you think I learned to make it a .DEB file from a .BIN? :P
[08:44] <cafuego_> id_sonic: seems to work
[08:44] <Belutz> nalioth: are you using a usb flash drive?
[08:44] <rigel> i installed kubuntu, but if i wanted to switch back over to gnome to try it out how would i do that
[08:45] <cafuego_> cesarin: Sorry, after having been here for a while, you learn to assume people are idiots ;-)
[08:45] <deFrysk> cafuego, hear hear
[08:45] <opteek> nalioth: but you just pointed me to some unofficial debs....
[08:45] <cafuego_> s/people/some people/
[08:46] <deFrysk> lol cafuego
[08:46] <timmiz> anyone here have an x700 on their laptop with ubuntu, how did you get it to load the mainscreen ( i get blackscreen)
[08:46] <nalioth> Belutz: i am a firewire guy, no usb sticks of any kind in my house
[08:46] <cesarin> cafuego_, lol, ill forgive you then ;)
[08:46] <Belutz> nalioth: ok :D
[08:47] <marzbar> rebooting the laptop
[08:47] <nalioth> opteek: yes, they are unofficial, but i know the man who rolled them an they wont mess up your box
[08:47] <timmiz> hmm, quess ill just change the Driver "ati" to "vesa", maybe that'll fix it
[08:47] <vinboy> does anyone know how to setup CVS?
[08:47] <opteek> nalioth: are you saying that if I dpkg the sdk here, mozilla will have java support? or is there something more I need to do
[08:47] <cesarin> cafuego_, btw, since I have the breezy's x86_64, I supose I cant use the default java packages for Breezy , right?
[08:48] <cesarin> I tried packing the x86_64
[08:48] <cesarin> I think ill redo it
[08:48] <cafuego_> cesarin: No. yuou cna package the x86_634 one, but do rememebr that does NOT have a browser plugin.
[08:48] <Bugfly> After system does it checks ...this is message i get ......... Fail to start the x server ( your graphical interface) it is likely that it is not set up correctly would you liket to view the x server output to diagnose the problem yes or no
[08:49] <timmiz> anyone got an acer notbook?
[08:49] <dealt> greetings
[08:49] <cesarin> cafuego_,  but what do I seek is the firefox pluging lol
[08:50] <cesarin> damn, these wiki guys need to PUT THE INFORMATION right
[08:50] <marzbar> cool
[08:50] <marzbar> its fixed my lappy
[08:50] <cesarin> like where to put the plugins and where to put the programming java package :P
[08:50] <Madpilot> cesarin: it's a wiki, log in and fix it yourself! (please!)
[08:50] <marzbar> i have gdm again :>
[08:50] <marzbar> Thanks for the help
[08:50] <marzbar> I need to reboot this pc
[08:50] <marzbar> :>
[08:50] <cafuego_> cesarin: There isn't one for non-i386
[08:50] <cafuego_> cesarin: You CAN set up a 32bit chroot, run i386 fierfox with i386 jre1.5
[08:51] <rigel> okay, so i have a shell script that just runs mp3blaster with a playlist
[08:51] <nalioth> opteek: if you dont need to compile java apps, you can use the j2re and yes you should have all functionalilty
[08:51] <rigel> and have set that as a cron job
[08:51] <rigel> but it never goes off
[08:51] <rigel> i dont have mail configured either
[08:51] <opteek> ok, lets give it a shot then
[08:51] <dealt> is network enabled in recovery mode
[08:51] <rigel> its off pretty much a default install
[08:51] <Bugfly> X window system version 6.8.2 ( ubuntu 6.8.2-69 20050920093941 root@terranova.warthogs.hbd.com
[08:51] <dealt> ?
[08:51] <timmiz> anyone help, my mouse moves very choppy under ubunto "breezy", it didnt do this in 5.04
[08:51] <opteek> nalioth: any chance you know where I can get some debs of the previous version?
[08:52] <nalioth> opteek: no sorry, i do not
[08:52] <cesarin> Madpilot, : I wish lol, sadly my english isnt that good to write a WIKI :P
[08:52] <opteek> cesarin: we can coauthor!
[08:53] <cesarin> opteek,  I think ill see
[08:53] <Bugfly> can anyone help with system that fail to boot to graphi mode GDM
[08:53] <Belutz> bob2: ok it works, i re-formatted my usb disk into fat32
[08:53] <cesarin> but being 3 days in Linux world is not enought experience lol
[08:53] <Madpilot> cesarin: if the information you put in is accurate & semi-coherent, someone else will clean up your grammar & spelling
[08:53] <cesarin> cafuego_, : I think theres a plugin, check out here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaAMD6
[08:53] <cesarin> but the instructions are quite hard
[08:53] <opteek> so what do you guys think of gentoo
[08:53] <timmiz> I installed "breezy" and my wireless still doesnt work
[08:54] <arkais> someone can say one good game rpg for ubuntu?
[08:54] <opteek> arkais: nethaclk
[08:54] <opteek> nethack
[08:54] <dealt> how can i disable clock synchronizing in ntp.ubuntulinux.org?
[08:54] <arkais> oks let me see
[08:55] <esac> yay, so it seems like the botched vmware install is what was causing all of my problems. now that i have fixed it, not a single crash or hang
[08:56] <opteek> nalioth, so I just installed the java package, and no improvement :( goddamned mozila
[08:57] <cesarin> nalioth: test it, and see if firefox now crashes when you access java enabled sites
[08:57] <Bugfly> No matter how hard i try i just can not seem to get away frm this bleeep BG crap.... even now i am live cd on bg sys
[08:57] <drunken-wallaby> guten morgen...
[08:58] <arkais> opteek, it's really good?
[08:58] <opteek> arkais, depends what you like, i guess
[08:59] <aftertaf> oh great....!
[08:59] <aftertaf> Bugfly:  does startx give you a specific error message?
[09:00] <Bugfly> now i acan not get any further than    *Checking battery state.......           [ok}
[09:00] <bazh> hello, after installing hoary, xorg all of a sudden uses 30-40% cpu while doing nothing; an upgrade to breezy didnt help either. Any hints? Or is it a known problem?
[09:00] <aftertaf> Bugfly:  hit alt + F1. > you'll have a login console.
[09:01] <Bugfly> ok that work
[09:02] <aftertaf> oki. cool, type startx. Does it give you a specific error?
[09:02] <ritalin> how do i enable samba?
[09:02] <arkais> opteek, well i'm very interesting in a game like ragnarok, or a game where can i see magic and multiplayer, or it's  for one player have to be very good
[09:02] <aftertaf> Bugfly:  is the error no core pointer?
[09:02] <ritalin> ahh its not installed
[09:02] <ritalin> doh
[09:02] <Bugfly> ok i did that and type in login info  now is shows my   XXXXX@XXXXX~$
[09:03] <aftertaf> Bugfly:  if i disappear and then come back, repost if noone replies to you... ive got a connection pb at work ;)
[09:03] <cesarin> stupid mozilla, now it crashes x_X
[09:03] <aftertaf> ok Bugfly you are in console    -    congrats. this is where it really happens ;)
[09:03] <aftertaf> type startx
[09:04] <cesarin> anyone knows where the error.log of firefox appears?
[09:04] <aftertaf> cesarin:  /dev/null ?? ;)
[09:04] <aftertaf> nope
[09:07] <cesarin> aftertaf, : nope, uninstalling the botched java helps, but no idea why its not working
[09:08] <Bugfly> ok i got the following:   fatal server error fail to initalize core devices please consult the x.org foundation support at http://wiki.x.org for help please check log file at "/var/log/xorg.0.log for additinal information x10 fata io error 104 connection reset by peer on x server
[09:08] <pa0lo30> guys i need some help here...
[09:08] <shock>  | udev fixed in Breezy | <--- thats what i came for, thxalot channel! *g*
[09:08] <aftertaf> Bugfly:  ok... does this linux box have a net connection?
[09:08] <Bugfly> yes
[09:08] <aftertaf> shock:  ;)
[09:08] <timmiz> anyone help out with my wirless, i installed breezy and it didnt improve anything, infact it wont even detect my wired ethernet ... 5.04 atleast found it lasttime
[09:09] <shock> so the ubuntu14 version is working, right?
[09:09] <aftertaf> Bugfly:  ok..... type this in a console:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:09] <aftertaf> shock:  seems so..... bug still open in case ppl have pbs, but it should be ok now.
[09:09] <shock> allright - ill give it a shot
[09:09] <omp> aftertaf: :)
[09:10] <aftertaf> omp:  hehe comment ca va mister ?
[09:10] <aftertaf> boing!!!
[09:10] <spackest> hopefully a quick dumb question, but is there an easy way to take a .tar.gz and build a .deb?
[09:10] <omp> aftertaf: i did not understand a word you just said :O
[09:11] <cesarin> whats the command to delete an entire directory and its contests using "SUDO" command? , since it cant be erased via  X's file manager
[09:12] <brownie17> say i wanted to use limewire, do i have to download the rpm of JAVA from the website, i can i use"java-common" from synaptic??? anyone?
[09:12] <budish76> when will breezy launched?
[09:12] <budish76> now still in preview version right?>
[09:12] <omp> budish76: october 13 i think
[09:12] <omp> budish76: yes, it still is prerelease
[09:12] <budish76> hmmm
[09:13] <nalioth> brownie17: hoary or breezy?
[09:13] <brownie17> nalioth, hoary
[09:13] <budish76> love hoary
[09:13] <nalioth> brownie17: x86 or other?
[09:13] <budish76> but waiting for breezy
[09:13] <budish76> heheh
[09:13] <brownie17> nalioth, x86
[09:13] <nalioth> brownie17: use the j2re here http://www.giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[09:13] <budish76> which one the best ubuntu or kubuntu
[09:13] <brownie17> nalioth, thanks
[09:14] <nalioth> budish76: ask that question in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:14] <kurtis> what's the best program for playing *.mpg
[09:14] <bimberi> spackest: yes, using checkinstall
[09:14] <brownie17> nalioth, there are two, which one?
[09:14] <brownie17> kurtis, they say vlc is the best video playing program, but it's really just preferemnce
[09:14] <nalioth> brownie17: read above...j2re
[09:14] <brownie17> nalioth, oops
[09:14] <kurtis> awsome, thanks!
[09:16] <cesarin> ok Im almost ready to quiet about this, theres no f*king way it works via the instructions -_-
[09:16] <Bugfly> well i tried it several times and it folloed up with PW request which i entered response was     sudo: apt: command not found
[09:16] <opteek> nalioth, is perhaps the reason java is not working because i do not have java-common installed aswell???
[09:17] <opteek> bugfly apt is not a command
[09:17] <nalioth> opteek: you should not mix Suns java and gnu java
[09:17] <opteek> nalioth: :(, well I've installed the package and it is simply not working :(((
[09:18] <pa0lo30> im new to linux.. i thought i try out ubuntu live cd. a problem occur. Xserver cannot initialize...
[09:18] <pa0lo30> what am i missing?
[09:18] <pa0lo30> i got a nvidia mx400
[09:19] <spackest> bimberi: what about alien?
[09:19] <bimberi> spackest: is the tar.gz a source package?
[09:19] <nalioth> opteek: you should get rid of all your gnu java things, and reinstall the deb i sent you to
[09:20] <cesarin> nalioth, thats the name of the "gnu java" programs? maybe thats why my sun's java doesnt work
[09:20] <bimberi> spackest: alien is for binary packages, might work but i don't know it very well
[09:20] <opteek> nalioth: i did that, I did not have any gnu java things, just another java package from some german repot, which i removed, java is likely installed just fine, my problem is that firefox is not using it
[09:20] <spackest> yeah, it is memcached-1.1.12.tar.gz
[09:21] <spackest> I tried  checkinstall -D /root/memcached-1.1.12.tar.gz but yeah, not right
[09:21] <opteek> and why is jedit not in the repositories
[09:21] <trigger_ph> hi. i need to unlock the default keyring in gnome. for some reason, the passwd i set isn't being accepted anymore. can i still unlock the keyring and flush all entries from that? i'm also thinking of disabling the keyring altogether..
[09:21] <GNAM> where is done ubuntuguide?
[09:22] <GNAM> gone
[09:22] <esac> what is the difference between GNOME2 and GTK2 ?
[09:22] <Madpilot> GNAM: use http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead...
[09:22] <spackest> also wondering if there is a repository sitting around somewhere with memcache 1.1.12, instead of memcache 1.1.11
[09:22] <Madpilot> !ubuntuguide
[09:22] <ubotu> [ubuntuguide]  out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[09:22] <GNAM> ausuasduadsuasuasuasuas
[09:22] <cesarin> !consolecommands
[09:22] <ubotu> cesarin: Bugger all, i dunno
[09:22] <Madpilot> !tell cesarin about cli
[09:22] <nalioth> opteek: the java deb i sent you, should have installed the firefox plugin, also
[09:23] <Digis> esac, gnome is desktop environment, gtk2 is graphical toolkit,  (gnome2 is based on gtk2 graphical toolkit)
[09:23] <bimberi> spackest: checkinstall doesn't work that way.  You unpack the tar.gz you go through the configure/make process up until the "make install" bit.  Instead of that type "checkinstall" and it will build a DEB package for you
[09:23] <cesarin> ty
[09:23] <esac> digis: what is the diff between vim-gnome and vim-gtk then ? (one says gnome2, the other gtk2) ?
[09:23] <Bugfly> ok i typed it exact as seen of my screen..................  Thanks for you help i am going to quit for tonite but i refuse to be defeated i shall return, i do not have any major data on this machine yet so i can to a re install i origially tried Debian but could never get past the video set up it kept defalut to xfree then discovered Ubuntu i like what i have seen so far until tonite............. oh well            I B BAck i no girli
[09:23] <Bugfly> e man
[09:23] <spackest> bimberi: thanks, will try it
[09:23] <bimberi> spackest: yw :)
[09:24] <Bugfly> Thanks for you help
[09:25] <vinboy> anyone good at gnome?
[09:25] <trigger_ph> any takers please? gnome keyring problem...
[09:25] <vinboy> currently the gnome panel only has 1 row
[09:25] <vinboy> how do I make it 2 row?
[09:25] <bazh> hello, after installing hoary, xorg all of a sudden uses 30-40% cpu while doing nothing; an upgrade to breezy didnt help either. Any hints? Or is it a known problem?
[09:25] <sa> hello
[09:25] <vinboy> so that the panel won't get messed up if i open too many winodws
[09:25] <sa> anybody could help me about my problem
[09:25] <student> san sebastian
[09:26] <nalioth> vinboy: use your virtual desktops
[09:26] <nalioth> sa you need to ask a question for us to help you
[09:26] <Madpilot> sa: if we knew what the problem was, we might be able to help...
[09:26] <sa> my was'nt able to connect firefox with breezy preview
[09:27] <sa> but i'm able to ultilies evolution and irc
[09:27] <sa> i can connect ot irc and evolution but not on my firefox browser
[09:28] <heatxsink> has anyone in here tried mounting a CF card over PCMCIA in breezy?
[09:29] <ritalin> hi
[09:30] <ritalin> on breezy how do i get teh win32codecs?
[09:30] <nalioth> ritalin: here http://giannaros.org/tor/bt/
[09:30] <tensor> apt-get it
[09:30] <nalioth> tensor: i dont think w32codecs are in the repos anymore
[09:31] <cesarin> nalioth: give me a hand man... now the directory of Java is UNDESTRUCTABLE
[09:31] <tensor> oh, too bad
[09:31] <cesarin> I now cant delete it on "X", and on the shell , itkeeps claiming the file doesnt exist
[09:31] <fhl0e> trying to install samba but get:  Depends: samba-common (=3.0.10-1ubuntu3) but 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1 is to be installed. what repros should i have in sources.list?
[09:32] <ritalin> nalioth: danke
[09:32] <nalioth> cesarin: what directory is that? and why do you want it gone?
[09:33] <sa> anybody could help me. i was new to linux
[09:33] <cesarin> nalioth. a botched installation of AMD64's JAVA
[09:34] <autotrac> hi
[09:34] <cesarin> it doesnt appear on synaptic, and it doesnt not work, even when following step by step instructions
[09:34] <Determinist> anyone here that has compiled a kernel?
[09:34] <vinboy> how do i make gnome panel 2 rows so that the panel won't get messed up if i open too many winodws
[09:34] <aroma> how could i connect my cam
[09:34] <j-linux> sorry if this is a dumb question-- I am trying to save files to /var/www/ (php files to test locally).  It won't let me save them.  I don't think I have access to that directory.  What is the best method to fix that?
[09:34] <Determinist> vinboy: i dont think you can
[09:34] <cat> a
[09:34] <spackest> bimberi: well, put it in a weird place, /usr/local/bin/memcached instead of /usr/bin/memcached, but that's pretty good
[09:35] <spackest> any easy way to get it in /usr/bin?
[09:35] <spackest> otherwise the restart fails
[09:35] <dhonn> ive done a recent breezy "apt-get upgrade" and now my sound/mixer is not working. I get this error "The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured."
[09:35] <Determinist> j-linux: sudo chmod 777 /var/www
[09:35] <dhonn> how do i fix?
[09:35] <ritalin> dhonn: try sudo alsaconf
[09:35] <aroma> i connect my webcam but it doesnt works
[09:36] <j-linux> Determinist: it's ok to do that?  I thought maybe they made it unwritable for a reason..
[09:36] <SlicerDicer-> since I updated ubuntu armyops cannot find opengl... is there something I need to do?
[09:36] <crimsun> dhonn: dpkg -l udev|grep ^ii
[09:36] <ikool> i just installed ubuntu
[09:36] <Madpilot> j-linux: if this is just a local dev/testing server, that's OK
[09:36] <Determinist> j-linux: for the sole reason that a super user is needed to install packages and create that directory. so yeah, it's ok :)
[09:36] <dhonn> not found
[09:36] <SlicerDicer-> this is what army ops says Could not load OpenGL library
[09:36] <dhonn> ii  udev           0.060-1ubuntu14 /dev/ management daemon
[09:36] <ompaul> ikool enjoy it :)
[09:37] <crimsun> dhonn: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[09:37] <j-linux> Madpilot: yeah, this server is not going online -- it's just to test my php files
[09:37] <ikool> gdm failed cuz it couldnt find my monitor so i had to edit the config file .. which requires root privileges... before i got to the intallataion step to set your root password
[09:37] <dhonn> 0000:00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  Sound Controller (rev a0)
[09:37] <Madpilot> j-linux: have you configured Apache to listen only to localhost?
[09:37] <j-linux> Determinist: thanks, it worked.
[09:37] <j-linux> Madpilot: that would be a good idea :S  How do I do that?
[09:37] <ikool> yeah i'm strting to enjoy it i set my back ground to a big field of weed plants
[09:37] <Determinist> j-linux: np mate
[09:38] <crimsun> dhonn: paste the output from ''lspci -nvv'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:38] <dhonn> crimsun and my /dev/input/mice is deleted, i found /dev/input/mouse0 and it works
[09:38] <DVSoftware> is it possible to upgrade nvidia 7667 drivers to 7676?
[09:38] <Madpilot> j-linux: info here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:38] <Determinist> DVSoftware: do you have 7800?
[09:38] <j-linux> Madpilot: thanks, I will read that.
[09:38] <cesarin> nalioth, : thedirectory name is jrel.5.0_04
[09:38] <cesarin> witouth the >>
[09:38] <DVSoftware> Determinist: no but i have problems with cedega and guild wars
[09:38] <DVSoftware> and 7676 seems to solve it
[09:39] <Determinist> DVSoftware: the 7676 driver only fixes issues with 7800 cards, no need to upgrade...
[09:39] <after8> re
[09:39] <j-linux> Madpilot: thanks for warning me about that... I shut it down until I figure this out :S
[09:39] <dhonn> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2426
[09:40] <Determinist> DVSoftware: but basically, if you have 7667 installed, upgrading would be to simply download the .sh package from nvidia's website and run it once gdm has been killed...
[09:40] <Madpilot> j-linux: no problem - the localhost information just involves tweaking ports.conf, so it's a fast tweak
[09:40] <Determinist> DVSoftware: i'd backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf tho
[09:40] <j-linux> is it just me or is ubuntuguide.org down?
[09:40] <Determinist> j-linux: it is, i think
[09:40] <DVSoftware> Determinist: i fscked up my system that way last time
[09:40] <Madpilot> j-linux: it's been down for a few days. no great loss, IMO...
[09:40] <Determinist> DVSoftware: hence... backup xorg.conf
[09:40] <ompaul> j-linux,  it has gone away to be replaced by faq afik
[09:41] <ompaul> !tell j-linux about faq
[09:41] <ThePyromaniac> Has anybody here had trouble with X Window Manager when upgrading?
[09:41] <DVSoftware> Determinist: i even didn't touched xorg.conf, problem was conflict with 7667
[09:41] <ikool> i just installe,d and i had trouble with the x , with getting it to recognise my video card
[09:42] <Determinist> DVSoftware: hmmm, well, last i checked, the nvidia installer detects other installed drivers and prompts you to remove them
[09:42] <autotrac> does anyone know how to install ymessenger on ubuntu? pls help
[09:42] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, define trouble
[09:42] <ThePyromaniac> When i upgraded it stopped on X something, then wouldnt openen firefox. I guess thats cause FF needs X. Then when i restart on the scrolling lines on boot it saysd cannot start gnome
[09:42] <ompaul> autotrac, use gaim
[09:42] <DVSoftware> Determinist: but does it detect ubuntu packaged drivers
[09:42] <DVSoftware> i don't think so
[09:42] <autotrac> it doest look nice
[09:42] <elib02> hi peepz
[09:42] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul good timing, i read your mine ^^
[09:42] <ThePyromaniac> mind*
[09:42] <j-linux> ompaul: got it... I keep seeing links to ubuntuguide.org online so I thought it might be a resource
[09:42] <autotrac> pls help ompaul
[09:43] <elib02> from where are the people in here?
[09:43] <Determinist> DVSoftware: there are no official ubuntu packaged drivers afaik
[09:43] <DVSoftware> what about unofficial?
[09:43] <aroma> does anyoe could assist me in installing my webcam in ubuntu
[09:43] <Determinist> DVSoftware: i just used the driver from the nvidia site, works like a charm here with my XFX 6600GT
[09:43] <autotrac> try to get the installer from yahoo
[09:43] <fek> moin
[09:44] <autotrac> but it doesnt installed
[09:44] <DVSoftware> Determinist: there's one more problem
[09:44] <DVSoftware> amd64 and 64bit ubuntu
[09:44] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, a moment please - autotrac can't don't do im I know that ymessenger was supposed to be broken, that is as far as my interest in it went
[09:44] <DVSoftware> nvida's package
[09:44] <shock> erm... I'm getting "Gdk-WARNING **: cannot set locale modifiers at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 47." here - any hint?
[09:44] <DVSoftware> creates some stupid emul folder for 32bit support
[09:44] <aroma> why was it doesnt work
[09:44] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul, what? heh
[09:44] <DVSoftware> and that way it doesn't work
[09:44] <DVSoftware> correctly
[09:45] <autotrac> can i play counter strike on ubuntu?
[09:45] <Determinist> DVSoftware: not familiar with 64bit ubuntu... sorry
[09:45] <ThePyromaniac> i need to get this working kinda soon, im on the live CD and i need to get my pc working for some college work ^^
[09:45] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, read it again there is a gap in there
[09:45] <aroma> hello
[09:45] <SlicerDicer-> anybody aware of issues with opengl after updating breezy?
[09:45] <SlicerDicer-> I cant seem to get armyops to work
[09:45] <ubuntuuser678> hi, could anyone help me, im looking to be able to share a folder in ubuntu and for it to appear in my flatmates widnows "netwrok places"
[09:45] <aroma> how could i install my webcam
[09:46] <dealt> does apt-get reinstall install overwrites config file?
[09:46] <jerk> sddd
[09:46] <cesarin> after8, /me sighs
 - lol - I havent even gotten that darn DRI to work... *grml*
[09:46] <elib02> hi,peepz
[09:46] <ubuntuuser678> i have samba installed and working
[09:46] <DVSoftware> crap
[09:46] <elib02> from where are the people in the room?
[09:46] <cesarin> I supose I should have went for 32 bit linux than 64 bit one..
[09:46] <SlicerDicer-> shock, I dont use dri :)
[09:47] <dhonn> crimsun, any ideas?
[09:47] <aroma> any ideas plssssss
[09:47] <elib02> hey
[09:47] <after8> shock> i get the perl5 GTK warning too.... dunno why but doesnt seem to cause anypbs. locale not supported... ?
[09:47] <olekvi> I'm runninge breezy on a T30 -- after yesterdays dist-upgrade I've lost /dev/snd, /dev/psaux/, /dev/input/mixe and so on - looks like there is something wrong with module loading or /dev-system -- I've not upgradet the kernel.  Sounds familiar to anyone?
[09:47] <DVSoftware> SlicerDicer-: i had problems
[09:47] <elib02> any hot and horny guyz out there?
[09:47] <elib02> care to chat?
[09:47] <SlicerDicer-> shock, ut2004 works fine hehe and many other things just not armyops
[09:47] <crimsun> dhonn: sec, I'm @work
[09:47] <LINNER> oh thank god it's fixed
[09:47] <aroma> elib asl
[09:47] <elib02> 21mphilippines
[09:47] <elib02> hehhee
[09:47] <elib02> u?
[09:47] <after8> olekvi> yes. reupdate, upgrade and reboot... udev bug fised since yesterday midday.
[09:48] <dealt> greetings
[09:48] <after8> hi LINNER ;)
[09:48] <LINNER> after8: hey dude
[09:48] <aroma> your a gay?
[09:48] <LINNER> ;)
[09:48] <dealt> does apt-get --reinstall install overwrite config file?
[09:48] <nalioth> LINNER: you are up late (and noisy, too)
[09:48] <LINNER> l get such a kick seeing you on
[09:48] <LINNER> :)
[09:48] <LINNER> nalioth: nah dude.... you don't know me... i'm up til like 3a or 4a
[09:48] <after8> hehe ;) i could take that in a lot of ways sweetie ;)
[09:48] <nalioth> tagalog in #ubuntu-ph, please
[09:48] <LINNER> it's early
[09:48] <LINNER> after8: understood :)
[09:49] <elib02> nope
[09:49] <aroma> hey does anyone here assist me in isntalling my webcam
[09:49] <elib02> it was just a joke
[09:49] <aroma> your a male?
[09:49] <aroma> or a female
[09:49] <LINNER> me?
[09:49] <aroma> dont make jokes in this room
[09:49] <aroma> such that
[09:49] <elib02> ohh....really? why? sorry then
[09:49] <elib02> ur asl,aroma?
[09:49] <ThePyromaniac> someone is upset...
[09:50] <vinboy> how do i make gnome panel 2 rows so that the panel won't get messed up if i open too many winodws
[09:50] <elib02> who's upset?
[09:50] <nalioth> aroma: elib02: take that into #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:50] <aroma> ok dude
[09:50] <elib02> what did u say,nalioth?
[09:50] <aroma> malioth how could i install my webcam
[09:50] <elib02> sorry,peepz..i am just new in linux environment
[09:51] <elib02> it's my first time to run this X-Chat thing
[09:51] <dealt> how can i 'escape' from malfunctioning window manager?
[09:51] <elib02> aroma!
[09:51] <nalioth> this is a help channel, not an "asl" "where are you from" channel. for that there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:51] <elib02> nalioth
[09:51] <cesarin> ok good nite all, I think my shit cant be fixed tonight
[09:51] <dealt> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace wont do
[09:51] <cesarin> at least fixed the goodamn mouse problem
[09:51] <ThePyromaniac> so, anyone know how i can get my pc off using this damn Live CD and reinstall breezy or hoary?
[09:51] <ThePyromaniac> im NOT doing a fresh install
[09:51] <elib02> sorry,peepz
[09:51] <vinboy> how do i make gnome panel 2 rows so that the panel won't get messed up if i open too many winodws
[09:51] <elib02> i don't understand it..
[09:52] <after8> ThePyromaniac> wats the problem?
[09:52] <nalioth> ThePyromaniac: whats the trouble?
[09:52] <elib02> HEY
[09:52] <dhonn> vinboy: right click the panel. click properties, put the pixel size to 48
[09:52] <H0lyD4wg> i get the followinf error message when logging into X: 'Xsession: unable to launch "/.Xsession" X session  "/.Xsession" not found; falling back to default session.' why is this?
[09:52] <aroma> elib pm me
[09:52] <elib02> i don't understand what's going on in here
[09:52] <olekvi> after8: thanks.  (I did think about doing it, but as I'm working I can not use too much time testing :)
[09:52] <elib02> could anyone help me pls?
[09:52] <elib02> ok,aroma
[09:53] <after8> olekvi> it needs doing ;)
[09:53] <ThePyromaniac> wahoo, people care. Well i tried upgrading and it got stuck on "Unpacking X" and then it wont open anything. then it fails on starting gnome when i turn pc on
[09:53] <H0lyD4wg> (after clicking Ok the session loads as it should)
[09:53] <after8> ThePyromaniac> can you switch to console?
[09:53] <nalioth> elib02: ask your question, if someone knows the answer they'll answer you, if nobody knows, well, nobody will answer
[09:53] <ThePyromaniac> i can get on console yes
[09:53] <olekvi> after8: yes.  the box is kinda stupid now
[09:53] <after8> ThePyromaniac> breezy? since yesterday?
[09:54] <crimsun> dhonn: cat /proc/asound/modules
[09:54] <elib02> hahha
[09:54] <elib02> this thing challenges me
[09:54] <ThePyromaniac> yes i got the new preview of breezy yest. i updated repos list and did update/upgrade
[09:54] <elib02> lolz
[09:54] <elib02> i like it!
[09:54] <dhonn> 0 snd_intel8x0
[09:54] <after8> ThePyromaniac> redo it ;)
[09:54] <cafuego_> Yay, 'Empty Trash' is broken
[09:54] <elib02> aroma!
[09:54] <after8> update/dist-upgrade
[09:54] <ThePyromaniac> after8 thats a marvelous idea!
[09:54] <after8> then rebooot ThePyromaniac .... there is abug!
[09:54] <ThePyromaniac> yes i forgot the dis-upgrade part, couldnt remember syntax ^^
[09:54] <after8> ThePyromaniac> or there was a bug.. benn squished ;)
[09:54] <opteek> whoot
[09:55] <ThePyromaniac> i will write it all on my hand
[09:55] <opteek> finally got this java plugin shite to work
[09:55] <opteek> now
[09:55] <ThePyromaniac> thanks man
[09:55] <after8> :)
[09:55] <dhonn> crimsun, im going to reboot real quick brb
[09:55] <fhl0e> can anybody help me install samba? I get error: Beror: samba-common (= 3.0.10-1ubuntu3) men 3.0.14a-3ubuntu3~5.04ubp1 skall installeras
[09:55] <opteek> how come, symlinks that were already there are highlighted in black whereas, when I make a symlink, it is highlighted in blue, what sort of discrimination is this
[09:55] <ThePyromaniac> i'll be back and rankibng if i have to reconfigure Live CD :p
[09:55] <ThePyromaniac> cya
[09:55] <ThePyromaniac> ranting*
[09:55] <crimsun> fhl0e: disable the backport repo
[09:55] <nalioth> opteek: they are different symlinks?
[09:55] <opteek> nalioth, different how
[09:55] <fhl0e> crimsun, ok
[09:56] <id_sonic> :s
[09:56] <id_sonic> !i
[09:56] <ubotu> id_sonic: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:56] <nalioth> opteek: there are different kinds of links
[09:56] <opteek> nalioth, yeah, seems if it is a symlink of a symlink it is black with red letters
[09:56] <opteek> nalioth: want to hear what the problem was
[09:56] <fhl0e> crimsun, still the same
[09:57] <after8> linner> so you got sth working again, rhgit?
[09:57] <nalioth> opteek: please share
[09:57] <linner> after8: nah dude...
[09:57] <linner> i'm going to try again in a few days
[09:57] <crimsun> fhl0e: did you update?
[09:57] <after8> whats the pb again?
[09:57] <id_sonic> My lynx can't visit google =(
[09:58] <linner> pb?
[09:58] <opteek> nalioth, the symlink to the firefox plugin has the directory structure wrong, it /usr/lib/java/plugin.so instead of /usr/lib/java/jre/plugin.so
[09:58] <linner> hello otep
[09:58] <dhonn> crimsun!!
[09:58] <fhl0e> crimsun, both update and upgrade
[09:58] <nalioth> opteek: well good
[09:58] <opteek> nalioth, always the simple stuff that takes the longest
[09:58] <aroma> sino pinoy dito me alam sa ubuntu
[09:58] <dhonn> its fixed now, i just got the latest udev package .06 or something
[09:58] <nalioth> opteek: so now we have frosty java goodness in our firefox?
[09:58] <opteek> oh yeah
[09:59] <opteek> but
[09:59] <sa> hello
[09:59] <sa> need help
[09:59] <opteek> i want jedit, and seems im gonna have to run to debians reps to get it
[09:59] <id_sonic> I want use lynx to visit google
[09:59] <nalioth> sa ask your question
[09:59] <crimsun> dhonn: heh, hence why I asked about udev first.
[09:59] <nalioth> id_sonic: try links or elinks
[09:59] <id_sonic> But I can not
[09:59] <elib02> hey
[09:59] <sa> why i was'nt able to login on admin tool
[09:59] <aroma> hello
[09:59] <aroma> elib
[09:59] <elib02> could anyone talk to me pls
[09:59] <elib02> arome
[09:59] <elib02> aroma
[09:59] <aroma> whats your problem
[10:00] <sa> i can login on terminal with root
[10:00] <elib02> u don;t answer me
[10:00] <dhonn> i was doing an "upgrade" the minute i asked
[10:00] <elib02> pls pm me
[10:00] <opteek> sa: root is disabled
[10:00] <opteek> RTFM
[10:00] <sa> how can i enabled it?
[10:00] <opteek> sa: sudo passwd root
[10:00] <dhonn> my /dev/input/mice is back
[10:00] <id_sonic> opteek sudo -s -H ???
[10:00] <ikool> anyone having trouble with amarok gettin git to play internet radio
[10:00] <opteek> sa: but the first password it will ask for is the password of the USER you are currently using
[10:01] <sa> optech: then what should i change
[10:01] <aroma> i have offered you for a chat
[10:01] <aroma> elib
[10:01] <aroma> accept it
[10:01] <nalioth> !tell elib02 about repeat
[10:01] <elib02> where?
[10:01] <opteek> id_sonic, i dont see how either of those are needed
[10:01] <aroma> take a look at your monitor
[10:01] <opteek> sa: all you do is assign the root user a password
[10:02] <opteek> sa: then you can log in as root
[10:02] <id_sonic> nalioth I don't want to use the two soft.
[10:02] <aroma> nalioth how could elib accept my offer
[10:02] <linner> after8: how are you doing??
[10:02] <nalioth> aroma: elib02: you cannot send private messages on freenode unless you identify to nickserv
[10:02] <linner> sorry
[10:02] <linner> did you get your problems fixed???
[10:02] <aroma> copy nalioth
[10:02] <aroma> how
[10:02] <elib02> oh...really,nalioth? how?
[10:02] <id_sonic> opteek ,sorry
[10:02] <after8> linner> i'm cool ;)   keeping myself busy and stuff ;)  yes, more or less
[10:02] <aroma> to do it
[10:02] <opteek> anyone here use jedit or some variation thereof?
[10:02] <sa> i was able to login using root on hte terminal but on the gui administration tools on breezy they don't accept my password
[10:03] <after8> linner> hows the install on the laptop going?
[10:03] <linner> i'm glad
[10:03] <nalioth> aroma: elib02: type /msg nickserv help register
[10:03] <linner> it isn't...
[10:03] <opteek> sa: the tools , they are asking for the password of the user you are logged into x with
[10:03] <nalioth> aroma: elib02: tagalog is spoken in #ubuntu-ph
[10:03] <opteek> sa: they automatically use sudo for you
[10:03] <linner> after8: i decided after all the apt-get problems today to hold off until the official breezy comes out
[10:03] <osfameron> Anyone know if the Philips ThumbCam works with ubuntu?
[10:03] <id_sonic_> id_sonic hi
[10:03] <id_sonic_> w
[10:03] <after8> linner> yeah ;)    though i recommend an update if you are on breezy already.... a good pile of em fixed
[10:04] <sa> aroma: ako pinoy
[10:04] <aroma> ah
[10:04] <linner> yeah?
[10:04] <linner> I've got some hardware issues
[10:04] <aroma> me alam ka
[10:04] <after8> osfameron> depends on its chipset.. plugin and see!
[10:04] <aroma> bout ubuntu
[10:04] <aroma> sa
[10:04] <sa> optech: i'll try waht you said
[10:04] <after8> aroma> english or elsewhere.......please
[10:04] <after8> linner> like what?
[10:04] <sa> aroma: yes
[10:05] <[Spooky] > hello anyone have the Ubuntuguide.org for i386 downloaded and can send it ?
[10:05] <linner> after8: my ati card isn't letting the x server start
[10:05] <linner> :(
[10:05] <osfameron> after8: well, I guess I could buy it and return it if not...
[10:05] <after8> oh yeah.....  cant you use the vesa drivers?
[10:05] <linner> after8: from there i'm afraid to know whatelse
[10:05] <nalioth> [Spooky] : wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation or use google cache of it
[10:05] <linner> after8: it looks like I can't
[10:05] <after8> osfameron> ok, you dnt have it yet?? ;)
[10:06] <opteek> so
[10:06] <osfameron> after8: dunno - no idea, I've never used a webcam before :-)
[10:06] <linner> after8: nalioth helped me out this morning and it looks like it's a no go
[10:06] <opteek> is google desktop better then slocate?
[10:06] <osfameron> I just notice that on the site it only mentions Windows drivers :-)
[10:06] <after8> linner> howcome? erf... ok.   need to wait for breezy?
[10:06] <nalioth> opteek: no it is not
[10:06] <elib02> ok
[10:06] <elib02> tnx,nalioth
[10:06] <linner> after8: I think so... at least at this point I'm praying
[10:06] <linner> :)
[10:06] <elib02> punta na ako dun
[10:06] <opteek> nalioth, can slocate index file contents?
[10:06] <opteek> nalioth, because that would be leet
[10:07] <after8> wtf...
[10:07] <nalioth> please fellas, tagalog in #ubuntu-ph
[10:07] <linner> brb
[10:07] <ikool> how do i mount something so non-root users can access it
[10:07] <ritalin> opteek: nein
[10:07] <ritalin> Use something like beagle
[10:07] <nalioth> opteek: you'll have to wait for (or use) beagle
[10:07] <after8> ikool> what filesystem?
[10:07] <ikool> ntfs
[10:07] <after8> hi ThePyromaniac :)
[10:07] <cyphase> Gnome 2.12 fixes the clipboard, right?
[10:07] <ThePyromaniac> yea well that didnt work ^^
[10:07] <MaTaKs> i need help
[10:08] <MaTaKs> installing ubuntu
[10:08] <after8> ThePyromaniac> oh....
[10:08] <nalioth> MaTaKs: ask a question or remain curious
[10:08] <ThePyromaniac> after8: it started to replace packages, and got stuck on xserver again
[10:08] <opteek> rofl
[10:08] <opteek> uninstalling ubuntu
[10:08] <opteek> rofl
[10:08] <ikool> after8: ?
[10:08] <MaTaKs> i cant get in to gnome
[10:08] <MaTaKs> whan i try to install the install cd
[10:08] <cyphase> does it by any chance have the ability to save the clipboard between sessions?
[10:08] <kvidell> er.. was the c hatroom for the forum closed or am I not joining the right room?
[10:08] <MaTaKs> im stuck in login session
[10:09] <nalioth> MaTaKs: what hardware do you have?
[10:09] <dhonn> for  a minute i had 2 screen saver programs: gnome-screensaver and xscreensaver, weird
[10:09] <ompaul> cyphase, does what have a chance to save between sessions?
[10:09] <MaTaKs> what you mean
[10:10] <MaTaKs> when installing ubuntu do i have to install both
[10:10] <MaTaKs> install cd and live
[10:11] <ikool> if i do a mount -o ro,users /media/windows no matter what the hell i do i cant get a non-root user to have privileges to view that directory
[10:11] <sa> optech: i try to run sudo what nothing has happen. i'm still can't login on system admin utilities
[10:11] <nalioth> MaTaKs: only the install disc to install to the hard drive
[10:11] <brownie17> nalioth, how do i install the .deb sun java runtime enviroment?
[10:11] <nalioth> MaTaKs: what kind of computer. the video card, the processor, etc
[10:12] <nalioth> brownie17: in a terminal, "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[10:12] <MaTaKs> i got p3 and s3
[10:12] <timmiz> whats a killswitch on the laptop?
[10:12] <MaTaKs> i can go into gnome when i put the live cd on the drive
[10:12] <elib02> hey
[10:12] <linner> timmiz: i've actually held down the power button for 5 seconds and that works
[10:12] <ravie> Hello Angels
[10:12] <MaTaKs> but when i remove the live cd, the features wont work
[10:12] <timmiz> err i mean wireless killswitch
[10:12] <MaTaKs> why is that
[10:12] <cyphase> ompaul, message before that = "Gnome 2.12 fixes the clipboard, right?"
[10:12] <elib02> can't i have a nice conversation? pls give me one...
[10:12] <timmiz> i quess thats the on/off for wireless?
[10:13] <linner> timmiz: oh that I don't know
[10:13] <ThePyromaniac> has anyone had a problem with upgrading the X package?
[10:13] <spackest> so how do I go about getting a package updated in the repositories?
[10:13] <linner> timmiz: I have an integrated wireless... so for me... it's a button
[10:13] <timmiz> I think thats why my wirelezz wasnt working, cause the little red button wasnt on :(
[10:13] <sa> hello
[10:13] <guest> helooo
[10:13] <guest> heloo to all
[10:13] <nalioth> MaTaKs: which version of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[10:13] <timmiz> hello
[10:13] <spackest> looks like the updated package is from  2005-04-04
[10:14] <MaTaKs> 5.04
[10:14] <timmiz> breezy made things worse for me I went back to 5.04 and will manually install wireless
[10:14] <ompaul> cyphase I doubt if it is persistant between sessions - however you could try save my session and see if it saves - testing is wonderful :) if it does not just open a terminal and type cat > mypaste and then right click and choose paste see what is in clipboard
[10:14] <spackest> I am doing deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[10:14] <spackest> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[10:14] <brownie17> nalioth, i get an erro when trying to run limewire: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2427
[10:14] <guest> heloo
[10:14] <guest> slfjkslfjksl;f
[10:14] <guest> h;sdfhs;fhs
[10:15] <brownie17> guest, go away
[10:15] <Satanista> s
[10:15] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, do this every ; is an end of line of you want to break it up >>>wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/udev/udev_0.060-1ubuntu12_i386.deb ; sudo dpkg -i udev_0.060-1ubuntu12_i386.deb
[10:15] <brownie17> guest, as a question or leave
[10:15] <sa> heelo
[10:15] <ompaul>  ; sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart
[10:15] <nalioth> brownie17: it's 'startlime' or 'runlime' or something like that to start
[10:15] <guest> heloo
[10:15] <guest> sdfjsfj
[10:15] <guest> sflsf;ks
[10:15] <nalioth> brownie17: or you could use gtk-gnutella
[10:15] <guest> sdl;fks;fks
[10:15] <guest> ldfks;fk
[10:15] <guest> sfks;kfs
[10:15] <guest> ;sfks;fk
[10:16] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart          <<< thats a few things for you to do
[10:16] <ritalin> +2 nalioth
[10:16] <aftertaf> nalioth 1 : guest 0
[10:16] <linner> aftertaf: hey dude!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:16] <nalioth> !tell guest about conduct
[10:16] <brownie17> nalioth, are you sure that is the problem?
[10:16] <sa> how can i get some documentation
[10:16] <boknoy_jr> wowowe
[10:16] <taseal> hey guys
[10:16] <boknoy_jr> yeah
[10:16] <taseal> can anyone help me out?
[10:16] <boknoy_jr> what ur problem
[10:16] <brownie17> nalioth, do i need to open ports to use gtk-gnutella./
[10:16] <linner> taseal: what's up?
[10:17] <linner> taseal: I'll give it a shot
[10:17] <taseal> well i installed 5.04 and pretty much got near theend
[10:17] <ompaul> sa wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:17] <taseal> it says fatal error no screens found
[10:17] <taseal> so i did sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:17] <nalioth> brownie17: gtk-gnutella does the same thing as limewire
[10:17] <taseal> which worked when i had the same problem on livecd
[10:17] <ompaul> taseal, what video card have you got?
[10:17] <taseal> but now it keeps saying no screens found
[10:17] <taseal> ati x700
[10:17] <fhl0e> is samba 3.0.14a availible/useable on hoary?
[10:17] <brownie17> nalioth, i want to get limewire to work, any ideas?
[10:18] <ompaul> !tell taseal about ati
[10:18] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul sadly its not that. its not that i have all packages, it just wont start. in the command shell i do a dis-upgrade and when it tries to replace xserv it just does nothin
[10:18] <nalioth> brownie17: read ^^^^ i mentioned something to you
[10:18] <ompaul> taseal, please note say it once, wait over 10 minutes again
[10:18] <aftertaf> linner> hehe ;)
[10:18] <linner> aftertaf: did you get your problem fixed from this afternoon?
[10:18] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, have it your way
[10:18] <taseal> ompaul, note say what once?
[10:18] <linner> aftertaf: or was that last night?  things keep running together
[10:19] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul ok i will look, but the link is 404 ^^
[10:19] <brownie17> nalioth, "it's 'startlime' or 'runlime' or something like that to start"? becasue neither work. but if "limewire" is at least starting to run, then it isn't because i have the wrong command!!! did you even read that pastebin?
[10:20] <nalioth> brownie17: look in your limewire directory, there is a shell script to start it up
[10:20] <boknoy_jr> #bongingo
[10:20] <brownie17> nalioth,  ok
[10:20] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul please help, i will listen to you
[10:20] <ompaul> taseal, ask once, on one line there are over 400 people here :) so ask once - wait 10/15 mins and ask again usually n ot getting an answer is someone who can answer is busy with something, so give them a chance to come free
[10:21] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, if the link is 404 then there is some other issue - you did your upgrades yesterday ? and then rebooted today and it was not working
[10:21] <aftertaf> linner> dunno. got a memory pb ;) (in the head, not the pc)
[10:21] <linner> aftertaf: ahhhhhhhh..........
[10:21] <linner> so glad to know
[10:22] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul: no thats what i was trying to sya ^_^. I tried upgrade last night and when it got to X the upgrade didnt fail or succed, it just stopped
[10:23] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul: It meant i couldnt open anything like FireFox as i guess that needs X. Then i restart and it says cannot start gnome
[10:23] <elib02> aroma! stil there?
[10:23] <ThePyromaniac> i tried to reupgrade today but same problem
[10:23] <^^KAAN^^> SeLaM uLeNNN
[10:23] <^^KAAN^^> :D
[10:23] <taseal> ompaul, hmm, i thought i only asked once lol
[10:23] <taseal> selam
[10:23] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, did you try my fix that I went to the bother of suggesting
[10:23] <aftertaf> ThePyromaniac> what deb archives you on?
[10:23] <ThePyromaniac> i want to know either how to properly upgrade, or how(if) to downgrade
[10:23] <netmonk> anyone with breezy?
[10:23] <^^KAAN^^> TaSeaL VaTaNDaM BeNiM MuCuKK MuCuKKKK
[10:24] <^^KAAN^^> :D
[10:24] <^^KAAN^^> :D
[10:24] <ompaul> taseal, you spent at least four lines asking :) say it once
[10:24] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul: i tried the fix dude, but the first was 404. i guessed the second part was to do after
[10:24] <Myrtti> English please.
[10:24] <taseal> ompaul, sorry about that lol
[10:24] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, yeap it was
[10:24] <ThePyromaniac> aftertaf: i am on the suggested core ones, and a few others that i had to leave pointing to breezy. Is this the problem? should i remove non-core ones?
[10:24] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul: is there a chance you could have mispelt a link? because it was 404 ^^
[10:25] <ThePyromaniac> try it wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/udev/udev_0.060-1ubuntu12_i386.deb ; sudo dpkg -i udev_0.060-1ubuntu12_i386.deb
[10:25] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, break between sudo and deb
[10:25] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, put a line break in there
[10:25] <ThePyromaniac> ok
[10:26] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, 4 lines of work :)
[10:26] <ThePyromaniac> still doesnt exist dude
[10:27] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, make it udev* and see what comes back
[10:27] <fhl0e> is anyone using samba on ubuntu? if so what version of samba and smbfs?
[10:27] <ThePyromaniac> still 404 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/udev/udev*.deb
[10:27] <ritalin> im using samba
[10:27] <ritalin> on breezy
[10:28] <ritalin> is their a command to see what version you have installed?
[10:28] <ritalin> <---ubuntu nublet
[10:28] <fhl0e> ritalin, ok, i'm on hoary... synaptic
[10:28] <nalioth> ritalin: lsb_release -a
[10:28] <shtron> Is there a way to create a list of the packages I have installed so I can diff them after upgrade?
[10:28] <ompaul> nalioth, +r ?
[10:28] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul sorry to be such a nussance, but its not my fault :$
[10:29] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul: could it be because in my source.list i have the core breezy repos and a few unofficial ones that are still poinint to hoary?
[10:29] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, you did choose to run pre release software and expect it to work :) I did it and expected it to break - so I reinstalled and have not updated it yet :)
[10:29] <ritalin> fhl0e: 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1
[10:29] <fhl0e> ritalin, ok, you installed it with synaptic?
[10:30] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul: true, it was foolish but i was told it upgraded fine for some people... :( i would happily resort back to hoary if i knew how
[10:30] <ritalin> yes
[10:30] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, it is always possible if they also provide the same stuff only newer versions that will break a box
[10:30] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, have you a seperate partition for home
[10:30] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul: yes
[10:30] <fhl0e> ritalin, well, i suppose it really doesn't matter since i use hoary and you breezy
[10:31] <ritalin> :(
[10:31] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul: lemme guess, clean installation?
[10:31] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, I would say reinstall breezy and wait a day or so - unless you have squid running
[10:31] <ThePyromaniac> i dont know what squid is so id say not
[10:31] <ThePyromaniac> i will just do a clean install of hoary :(
[10:31] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, concur
[10:31] <shtron> anyone knows if there is a way to create a list of the packages I have installed so I can diff them after upgrade?
[10:31] <crimsun> shtron: dpkg -l
[10:31] <shtron> thanks
[10:32] <taseal> still having the problem :(
[10:32] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, I would not - there are only a few days left
[10:32] <fhl0e> ritalin, but you could copy/paste your source.list in channel #flood...
[10:32] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul: so you reccomend slumming it with windows for a few days, then retry update/dist-upgrade then?
[10:32] <timmiz> if ubuntu freezes (but i can still press caplock), how do I reboot system without shutting down laptop?
[10:33] <ompaul> fhl0e, ritalin use paste.ubuntulinux.nl its easier and more people can get to view the issue
[10:33] <jsgotangco> timmiz, ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:33] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, no I would never ever suggest windows to anyone, well not since 1994 anyway
[10:33] <sa> gtg
[10:34] <ompaul> shtron I believe you want something like debfoster installed before you start
[10:34] <ritalin> fhl0e: http://pastebin.com/370743
[10:34] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul: trueness, but it gives me a reason to play World of Warcraft and not be feeling guilty that i could be doing something better with my time
[10:34] <fhl0e> ompaul, okidoki
[10:34] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul: it sucks that wine doesnt work on AMD64 for now. thats the only reason i keep win64 about!
[10:34] <fhl0e> ritalin, thanks..
[10:35] <sa> jsgotangco: i install breezy preview. kaya lang di ako makalog-in sa admintool using root password
[10:35] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, there is a win 64 ???????????????????????????
[10:35] <jsgotangco> sa, tagalog in #ubuntu-ph please
[10:35] <opteek> uhhhh, you can run 32 bit apps on the 64 bro
[10:35] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul: yes i got a development version of that
[10:35] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, why bother
[10:35] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:36] <ThePyromaniac> ompaul: i had it knocking around for ages, plus win xp pro breaks on 64 bit pc's!
[10:36] <ThePyromaniac> well ok, im leaving now anyway
[10:36] <ThePyromaniac> i will retry in a few days, thanks for advice guys
[10:36] <ompaul> okay, ThePyromaniac leave this open and check in every couple of hours scroll back and see if there is some other fix
[10:37] <ThePyromaniac> well i am going to college now, and work after. so in 12 hours i will see if there is any improvement ^^
[10:37] <ThePyromaniac> is there any webpage that i should know about to see progress?
[10:37] <taseal> still having the problem, someone help please... no screens found did the apt-get install but no luck
[10:39] <opteek> hhaha
[10:39] <opteek> slumming it with windows
[10:40] <ThePyromaniac> ^^ cya
[10:40] <ompaul> ThePyromaniac, follow the forums
[10:40] <opteek> progressquest.com
[10:40] <opteek> so
[10:40] <opteek> who has used gento
[10:40] <opteek> o
[10:41] <taseal> what is my architecture? 5.04 or hoary ?
[10:41] <ompaul> opteek, gentoo is out the door, turn left, and the third door on the right.
[10:41] <nalioth> opteek: please dont use your enter key for punctuation
[10:41] <nalioth> taseal: type in a terminal lsb_release -a
[10:42] <taseal> nalioth, says -bash: terminal: command not found
[10:42] <nalioth> taseal: then 'uname -a'
[10:42] <taseal> nalioth, ah ok cool got, thx
[10:43] <Madpilot> taseal: Hoary IS 5.04
[10:43] <nalioth> taseal: your arch is gonna be 686 or something
[10:44] <nalioth> awful quiet in here without the spambots
[10:44] <taseal> nalioth, it was 386
[10:44] <nalioth> taseal: well there you go
[10:44] <taseal> ugh, this no screens found thing is getting me mad
[10:44] <nalioth> taseal: try the VESA driver
[10:45] <aftertaf> lol.... i'm actually working this morning... got things to do :o
[10:45] <taseal> nalioth, i have no clue how to get that :( I just started using linux today lol :(
[10:45] <nalioth> aftertaf: YOU? working? geddoutahere!
[10:45] <nalioth> taseal: in that case
[10:45] <taseal> i'm screwed
[10:45] <nalioth> !tell taseal about resolution
[10:45] <taseal> lol
[10:46] <nalioth> taseal: nah, we'll get you sorted
[10:46] <taseal> nalioth, cool thx, checking that link now
[10:47] <ompaul> nalioth, is the x killer replaced?
[10:47] <taseal> see I did sudo apt-get xorg-driver-fglrx while i was installing the livecd and it worked, now its just giving me buncha problems
[10:47] <nalioth> ompaul: i'm not sure, my X survived the last couple of days
[10:47] <nalioth> taseal: you definitely need the VESA driver
[10:47] <ompaul> nalioth, ahh then there is only one way to find out :)
[10:48] <ibooij> Hi, anybody having trouble after updates in Breezy from yesterday?
[10:48] <ibooij> My X wouldn't start
[10:48] <aftertaf> nalioth> serious..... for at least an hour this morning
[10:48] <taseal> nalioth, checking how to get the VESA driver... (i do have a x700 FYI if that means anything)
[10:48] <aftertaf> ibooij> reupdate and re dist-upgrade and reboot. it'll be ok.... bug fixed
[10:48] <nalioth> aftertaf: i'm glad i'm sitting down
[10:49] <aftertaf> lol nalioth me too man, i'd be out cold otherwise ;)
[10:49] <nalioth> taseal: are you familiar with terminal operations?
[10:50] <ibooij> aftertaf: I've already done so. Perhaps the fixes did not make it to my mirror yet?
[10:50] <opteek> when did mplayer get a gui
[10:50] <nalioth> ibooij: fixes are daily (as are breakages)
[10:50] <nalioth> opteek: it's always had a gui, you just had to go get it with hoary
[10:51] <ritalin> nalioth: was it you that gave me those links to java and win32codecs?
[10:51] <taseal> nalioth, well with windows i am, i program C but this is diff stuff
[10:51] <nalioth> ritalin: maybe.
[10:51] <ritalin> nalioth: how do you install 3rd party debs?
[10:51] <ritalin> sorry im like 1 hour into ubuntu
[10:52] <ritalin> never used debian before
[10:52] <ibooij> nalioth: I did not get many updates this morning, nothing that had anything to do with HAL or devices anyway. Yesterday there was a HAL update which might have broken thins
[10:52] <nalioth> ritalin: i wouldnt install 3d party debs, but the ones i sent you to b4 are ok
[10:52] <ompaul> ritalin, you try to avoid them
[10:52] <opteek> BAH
[10:52] <ompaul> ritalin, use source before them -
[10:52] <nalioth> ibooij: open a terminal where the debs are and type "sudo dpkg -i file.deb"
[10:52] <aftertaf> ibooij> check your version of udev : which is it?   (apt-cache show udev)
[10:53] <taseal> nalioth, u sent me a wiki on how to fix resolution, i cant even boot into the UI i'm stuck at the terminal before anything loads up :(
[10:53] <aftertaf> ibooij> you should have ubuntu14
[10:53] <nalioth> taseal: great. you dont have to open a terminal to do this
[10:53] <ompaul> aftertaf,  0.060-1ubuntu14 that one cool?
[10:53] <aftertaf> ompaul> happy happy joy joy ;)
[10:53] <Madpilot> does anyone know if K3B will install cdrdao as a depend if it isn't already installed?
[10:53] <nalioth> taseal: type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose for the driver VESA
[10:53] <taseal> nalioth, ok
[10:54] <nalioth> taseal: you may leave everything else default (unless you are SURE you know the answer)
[10:54] <ompaul> hopefully i will be right back :)
[10:54] <ibooij> aftertaf: Version: 0.060-1ubuntu14
[10:54] <aftertaf> Madpilot> depends if it depends ;)
[10:54] <alturigo> hello
[10:54] <nalioth> Madpilot: it doesnt in hoary
[10:54] <aftertaf> ibooij> ok. what is the specific error when you type startx ?
[10:55] <ibooij> aftertaf: let me just look it up in the XServer logs..
[10:55] <alturigo> I want to run womething whenever a module (using pcmcia) starts or stops, where should I put it?
[10:55] <aftertaf> ibooij> or retype it and see what the final message is.
[10:55] <opteek> what is this trash, when i go fullscreen in this gui mplayer, it fills the rest of the screen with black
[10:56] <ibooij> aftertaf: I can't.. because I'm in X right now and don't have any other machine at hand
[10:56] <Simira> hi, can anyone help me get my internal network card working?
[10:56] <Madpilot> nalioth: thanks. I had cdrdao already installed when I installed K3B, but I'm trying to fix up the K3B wiki page...
[10:57] <aftertaf> "ibooij My X wouldn't star"
[10:57] <aftertaf> ibooij> but it does now?... hehe ok. no pbs then ;)   was a core pointer error probly.
[10:57] <aftertaf> Madpilot> and it has a separate mp3 package now to burn audio cds .
[10:58] <aurax> anyone here from london?
[10:58] <aftertaf> Madpilot> in breezy
[10:58] <opteek> anyone, what is up with this fullscreen in mplayer
[10:58] <ibooij> aftertaf: I did start after I manually loaded the usbmouse module and changed xorg.conf to use /dev/input/mouse0
[10:58] <mindframe> opteek, vlc
[10:58] <ibooij> aftertaf: it was indeed a core pointer error
[10:58] <bamama> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rul3z!
[10:58] <bamama> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rul3z!
[10:58] <bamama> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rul3z!
[10:59] <Madpilot> aftertaf: I know about Serpentine coming in Breezy; I'm just trying to fix some of the stuff in the K3BHowto wiki page
[10:59] <ritalin> heh
[10:59] <opteek> yeah , vlc is the shit
[10:59] <opteek> in windows
[10:59] <Madpilot> what a... nevermind...
[10:59] <aftertaf> serpentine? gernome right?
[10:59] <aftertaf> nalioth 5 : l00z3rs 0
[10:59] <aftertaf> hehe
[11:00] <Madpilot> aftertaf: isn't Serpentine the new audio-burning app for Breezy? (Still using Hoary here...)
[11:00] <aftertaf> i'd leave that one on permanently ;)
[11:00] <taseal> naliath, no luck with that command... still no screens found :(
[11:00] <aftertaf> Madpilot> in gnome yeah i tihnk.     but K has kde ...
[11:00] <ibooij> aftertaf: xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice
[11:01] <twibbler> could somebody tell me where to get the suggested repository list from please ...
[11:01] <aftertaf> ibooij> but not wany more?
[11:01] <aftertaf> !tell twibbler about repositories
[11:01] <nalioth> twibbler: /msg ubotu sources
[11:01] <Madpilot> aftertaf: at least for me, GnomeBaker only burns coasters, but K3B works beautifully... I gather I'm not the only one...
[11:01] <opteek> anyone here able to use fullscreen in mplayer>
[11:02] <aftertaf> never figured cd burning in gnome, ever.... k3b got me onto K and happy since :)
[11:02] <Ng> opteek: what happens when you try?
[11:02] <taseal> naliath, that command didnt fix anything :( but it did let me reconfigure alot of stuff lol
[11:02] <Ng> opteek: does it stay really small in the middle of a black screen?
[11:02] <ibooij> aftertaf: Well... I loaded usbmouse (with modprobe) and found that it created a device node /dev/input/mouse0, so I editted xorg.conf to use that node
[11:02] <opteek> Ng, YESSS
[11:02] <[Chameleon] > aftertaf: eroaster was a nice gnome CD burning app. gnome 1.4 based tho
[11:03] <Madpilot> aftertaf: I can burn ISOs & data in Nautilus, but for audio K3B works
[11:03] <nalioth> taseal: then i'm out of ideas. there will be more folks in here in a few hours who may can help you further
[11:03] <Ng> opteek: in your home directory, edit .mplayer/config and put a line in with "zoom=yes"
[11:03] <taseal> nalioth, ok thx :(
[11:03] <alturigo> I want to run womething whenever a module (using pcmcia) starts or stops, where should I put it?
[11:04] <opteek> ng: ty
[11:06] <ritalin> so every 6 months you are pretty much guaranteed a new release?
[11:06] <hyper> hi, I cant see some directories in Nautilus, it says I am not authorized, what can I do?
[11:06] <ub1c4> Hi!
[11:06] <ritalin> ub1c4: ;)
[11:06] <ub1c4> Here I come ,, again!
[11:06] <ub1c4> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rul3z!
[11:06] <ub1c4> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rul3z!
[11:06] <ub1c4> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rul3z!
[11:06] <Madpilot> ritalin: yes
[11:06] <GNAM> dsuuausuas
[11:06] <GNAM> slackware is a shit
[11:06] <Madpilot> what a wanker
[11:07] <ritalin> Madpilot: thats awesome
[11:07] <twibbler> aftertaf: thank you ....
[11:07] <nalioth> anyone else?
[11:07] <ritalin> this chan get alot of trolls?
[11:07] <[Chameleon] > I think slack is kewl and ubuntu is more kewl
[11:07] <[Chameleon] > ritalin: yes
[11:07] <ritalin> that sucks
[11:08] <[Chameleon] > yes
[11:08] <twibbler> ok Im now really confused ... reloaded repositories and still only getting the kernel source for 2.4 not 2.6 .... anybody give me a clue please ..
[11:08] <atha> alturigo: try reading "man hotplug"
[11:08] <ritalin> if you are gonna troll, do it right. cowsay the chan
[11:09] <aftertaf> twibbler> not kernel-source...... linux-source  (in ubuntu.)
[11:10] <twibbler> aftertaf: you always seem to give me the right answers ... have a cup of coffee on me ...
[11:10] <njak> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rul3z!
[11:10] <njak> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rul3z!
[11:10] <hyper> hi, I cant see some directories in Nautilus, it says I am not authorized, what can I do?....
[11:10] <njak> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rul3z!
[11:10] <njak> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rul3z!
[11:10] <njak> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rul3z!
[11:10] <njak> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rul3z!
[11:10] <njak> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rul3z!
[11:10] <njak> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rul3z!
[11:10] <njak> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rul3z!
[11:10] <opteek> rofl
[11:10] <njak> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rul3z!
[11:10] <njak> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rul3z!
[11:10] <aftertaf> cheers, i wanted one... off for a cig at the same time ;)
[11:10] <nalioth> wtf is goin on?
[11:10] <aftertaf> njak is a g33k!
[11:10] <Determinist> dont these kids have something better to do with their time?
[11:10] <Madpilot> OMG, they're coming out of the woodwork! Run away!
[11:11] <Madpilot> ;)
[11:11] <aftertaf> nalioth> some stoopid person being bored!!!
[11:11] <nalioth> Determinist: they'll soon be out of IPs
[11:11] <Determinist> nalioth: cant know anymore with the amount of windows infested idiots out there
[11:11] <nalioth> Determinist: well, it's a good thing i've been brought up with video games, eh?
[11:11] <atha> try banning the identity igor_24, I bet that he doesn't know how to change that :)
[11:11] <[Chameleon] > nalioth: can't you just ban his IP? he's joining with the same IP every time.
[11:11] <Determinist> nalioth: lol
[11:12] <atha> 242
[11:12] <[Chameleon] > oh wait
[11:12] <[Chameleon] > I guess not
[11:12] <aftertaf> or send him fire and wrath via his phone line ?? ;)
[11:12] <Alpha232> Mornin...
[11:12] <cyphase> sucks? and i was expecting sux0r2
[11:12] <[Chameleon] > ban the whole subnet
[11:12] <er4z0r> re
[11:12] <nalioth> [Chameleon] : it may come to that
[11:13] <aftertaf> or ban igor*!*@first bit of subnet.
[11:13] <[Chameleon] > the pathetic thing is that the retard probably has to hang up and re-dial just to get another IP.
[11:13] <[Chameleon] > aftertaf: yeah
[11:13] <Alpha232> Has anyone had issues with the LIVE CD not getting a dhcp address and instead setting a ipv6 address?
[11:13] <nalioth> 3d time is the charm
[11:13] <joss> hi
[11:14] <er4z0r> what is common practice unter Ubuntu? inetd or xinetd?
[11:14] <Determinist> breezy got an excellent review from adam whatshisname at madpenguin, i see
[11:15] <sege> I can't find Tomcat 5 in ubuntus repository, is it somewhere or do I have to use debian/sid or something?
[11:15] <aftertaf> Determinist> url ?
[11:15] <Determinist> aftertaf: madpenguin.org :D
[11:15] <nalioth> sege: better to compile from source, if it's not in the repos
[11:15] <aftertaf> sege> dont use debian/sid
[11:15] <sPYder---> i want my opera browser to be the default browser but how???? T_T reply plz anyone
[11:15] <er4z0r> sege: do it by hand
[11:15] <aftertaf> Determinist> hehe brain....
[11:15] <er4z0r> sege: get it from Apache, thats what I did
[11:16] <nalioth> sPYder---: dont whine. system > preferences > preferred applications
[11:16] <Madpilot> sPYder---: see wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser - there's a 'making Opera the default' tweak there
[11:16] <sege> i really dont want to do it by hand, shit. this box is for a stupid customer who hardly can do 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade', he wont be able to do source upgrade. :/
[11:16] <Determinist> ok, explain this to me a sec... why do the kids at the kindergarten next to my place find it amusing to yell at the top of their lungs together every 20 mins some unintellgible word?
[11:17] <Madpilot> Determinist: Maoist Kindergarten? ;)
[11:17] <nalioth> sege: debian/sid will likely break the box
[11:17] <Determinist> Madpilot: worse, uneducated israeli kindergarten lol
[11:17] <sege> i'll do it from source then, thanks.
[11:17] <ub1j4m> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rules!
[11:17] <ub1j4m> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rules!
[11:17] <ub1j4m> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rules!
[11:17] <ub1j4m> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rules!
[11:17] <ub1j4m> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rules!
[11:17] <ub1j4m> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rules!
[11:17] <ub1j4m> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rules!
[11:17] <ub1j4m> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rules!
[11:18] <ub1j4m> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rules!
[11:18] <ub1j4m> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rules!
[11:18] <ub1j4m> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rules!
[11:18] <Determinist> wait
[11:18] <ub1j4m> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rules!
[11:18] <Determinist> dont kick him lol
[11:18] <ub1j4m> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rules!
[11:18] <ub1j4m> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rules!
[11:18] <ub1j4m> Ubuntu sucks, slackware rules!
[11:18] <ibooij> somebody 's enter key is stuck..
[11:18] <Determinist> lol
[11:18] <Ng> ooh, a 12 year old :)
[11:18] <[Chameleon] > hahah, flooded himself to death
[11:18] <[Chameleon] > what a retard
[11:18] <Alpha232> jizz, whats with the hate?
[11:18] <[Chameleon] > nalioth: please just ban the dork
[11:18] <vinboy> lol
[11:18] <Alpha232> can't we all just get a dong
[11:19] <Alpha232> err i mean get along
[11:19] <Determinist> aftertaf: http://madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5145 <--- incase you're overly tired :)
[11:19] <vinboy> yea
[11:19] <vinboy> we r all linux freaks
[11:19] <Ng> Alpha232: you can go right ahead with that one if you want ;)
[11:19] <vinboy> should get along
[11:19] <[Chameleon] > nalioth: he always used "igor" as the ident
[11:19] <Alpha232> Ng: not today... i'm tired
[11:19] <Madpilot> Alpha232: great typo - why correct it? ;)
[11:19] <Alpha232> Madpilot: well i was going for homo-nyms ;)
[11:20] <Alpha232> once again, bad punn...
[11:20] <Madpilot> !lart Alpha232
[11:20] <Determinist> anyone here a gimp guru?
[11:20] <er4z0r> anybody an answer on my question about [x] inetd?
[11:20] <Alpha232> Madpilot:  cat /dev/urandom > /dev/audio
[11:20] <Alpha232> i used to love doing that with /dev/random on sparcs in the server room :)
[11:21] <Alpha232> so...
[11:21] <ritalin> anyone here have fuse running?
[11:21] <Alpha232> how the fuck do i turn ipv6 off and get ipv4 working with dhcp... cause, so far ubuntu LIVE is DEAD..
[11:21] <Madpilot> Determinist: I can fake being a GIMP guru - there is a channel for it, though
[11:22] <ritalin> i installed encfs and when i try to run it i get a error about fuse not being loaded, to modprobe fuse and try again
[11:22] <atha> Alpha232: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6841.html
[11:22] <ritalin> well i did that and it still shows error
[11:22] <atha> try that
[11:22] <ritalin> i also ran lsmod and fuse is showing up
[11:22] <Determinist> Madpilot: if only they answered questions lol
[11:23] <Alpha232> atha: gack... so no LIVE cd for me then
[11:23] <Madpilot> Determinist: try the gimp channel over at irc.gimp.org
[11:23] <Determinist> Madpilot: thanks
[11:24] <godzzo> Hi
[11:25] <Alpha232> ok so how well does ubuntu co-habitate with 98?
[11:25] <godzzo> Can I use Gaim to talk (IM) with Skype users?
[11:25] <timmiz> I draged the menubar at the top of ubuntu to the rightside, but it looks humongous out of proportion, the problem is i cant drag it back to teh TOP like it was before, anyone know how to fix this?
[11:25] <mindmedic> godzzo, no but you can use skype.
[11:26] <godzzo> :(
[11:26] <godzzo> I use it, but I dont like it...
[11:26] <godzzo> thnx
[11:26] <hyphenated> has anyone made skype play nice with other programs that use sound? it seems to like locking up a little bit :-)
[11:26] <BenderNZ> could anyone tell me how big an ubuntu mirror is - I'm considering setting one up
[11:27] <hyphenated> there's stuff in their FAQ about it, but that made the quality of the voice go all choppy
[11:27] <mindmedic> godzzo, get your friends to use google talk instead of skype, the you can IM them from gaim :)
[11:27] <nalioth> BenderNZ: about 17000 pkgs
[11:27] <taseal> is there a way to restart the terminal window thingy without restarting the computer?
[11:27] <BenderNZ> nalioth: what's that in GB?
[11:28] <nalioth> taseal: yes, hit ctrl-alt-f3
[11:28] <nalioth> BenderNZ: not sure how to get it out of the bot
[11:28] <nalioth> !stats
[11:28] <BenderNZ> !stats
[11:28] <taseal> nalioth, thx....
[11:29] <nalioth> the bot has it in him, but i dont know the trigger to get him to talk
[11:29] <dreamstar> hi guys
[11:30] <dreamstar> someone please can suggest me how to make sounds work in gaim?
[11:30] <BenderNZ> !stats
[11:30] <nalioth> BenderNZ: thats not it
[11:30] <BenderNZ> :(
[11:30] <nalioth> BenderNZ: come back when cafuego is awake. it's his bot
[11:30] <catfox> whats the best way of making a user require a password when they visit my website? it's running breezy apache
[11:31] <cyphase> .htaccess..
[11:31] <cyphase> or something built into the code
[11:31] <cyphase> of the site
[11:31] <Madpilot> catfox: might want to ask on #apache
[11:31] <cyphase> or what Madpilot said :)
[11:31] <catfox> Madpilot, will do cheers
[11:32] <dreamstar> so no help for me? i've tried different methods but sounds in GAIM still don't work, how to fix it?
[11:34] <mindmedic> dreamstar, play around with the audio output option in the preferences
[11:34] <mindmedic> if esd is running the sounds should work, however, there is support for alsa and arts too...
[11:34] <dreamstar> mindmedic, but sounds works in ubuntu, they just don't work with gaim
[11:35] <mindmedic> dreamstar, have set sounds up in the preferences menu
[11:35] <dreamstar> yep
[11:35] <[Wiebel] > still no firefox 1.07 package?
[11:35] <mindmedic> dreamstar, no idea then...
[11:36] <BooYaaKaa> did any 1 upgrade to breezy?
[11:36] <aftertaf> BooYaaKaa> lots of us!
[11:36] <nalioth> BooYaaKaa: lots of folks
[11:36] <aftertaf> hehe
[11:37] <BooYaaKaa> i get errors all the time?
[11:37] <BooYaaKaa> even when with fresh install
[11:37] <nalioth> BooYaaKaa: what hardware are you running?
[11:38] <BooYaaKaa> 686
[11:38] <BooYaaKaa> amp
[11:38] <BooYaaKaa> smp
[11:38] <Bhabie_Mwah> eow
[11:39] <Ghotcom> Aie
[11:40] <BooYaaKaa> i get errors ....somthing to do with fonts when i try dist-upgrade
[11:40] <Ghotcom> How do I set up an internet connection with an USB modem ?
[11:40] <arlie> hi everyone i'm new to ubuntu. has anyone tried installing sybase database server?
[11:43] <JPohlmann> Hi all. I've some problems with (monospaced, fixed and bitmap) fonts and Breezy (had those problems on Hoary as well, though). E.g. misc-fixed (MiscFixed) is not shown in any font selection dialog although being detected (xlsfonts|grep fixed shows a number of misc-fixed fonts).
[11:43] <JPohlmann> Any ideas?
[11:43] <sPYder---> muine cant play mp3 why?
[11:43] <sPYder---> show i install a codec?
[11:43] <sPYder---> sould
[11:44] <godzzo> mindmedic, okok
[11:44] <JPohlmann> sPYder---: You have to, yes. There are licensing issues with MP3.
[11:44] <BooYaaKaa> JPohlmann download the windows fonts
[11:44] <nalioth> !tell sPYder--- about restricted
[11:45] <JPohlmann> BooYaaKaa: I got them already. They work but that's not the point.
[11:45] <Ghotcom> How do I set up an internet connection with an USB modem ?
[11:45] <JPohlmann> Neither are the bitmap fonts nor do they make other fonts (like bitmap fonts) visible.
[11:46] <aftertaf> Ghotcom> what type of modem?
[11:46] <JPohlmann> s/the/they/
[11:46] <Ghotcom> aftertaf: netopia
[11:46] <aftertaf> Ghotcom> do u know what chipset it uses?
[11:46] <Ghotcom> aftertaf: some sort of small minimzed modem
[11:46] <mindmedic> sPYder---, gstreamer-mad package may be of help.
[11:46] <Ghotcom> aftertaf: i m going to check
[11:46] <Ghotcom> wait
[11:46] <aftertaf> netopia what?    model n stuff...
[11:46] <aftertaf> ok
[11:46] <Ghotcom> ok
[11:46] <BooYaaKaa> JPohlmann did you enabled pixmap
[11:46] <er4z0r> hi, somebody out there running a Subversion-Server?
[11:47] <JPohlmann> BooYaaKaa: What's pixmap?
[11:48] <Ghotcom> aftertaf: it is called a "smart" modem   rofllll
[11:49] <aftertaf> we need amodel or ref no. Ghotcom
[11:51] <waseem> hi does anyone know how to check the version number of ubuntu?
[11:51] <ubuntu> hey what up
[11:51] <BROKEN_LADDER> gizmo project is now available for debian dudes.  i just installed it, for anyone who's interested in voip.
[11:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> seems to work.
[11:52] <aftertaf> cayman 3341 or 3342 Ghotcom ?
[11:52] <mahendra> hi
[11:52] <BROKEN_LADDER> ubuntu way to score that nick dude
[11:52] <JPohlmann> BooYaaKaa: Perhaps you mean bitmap. Well, if I run dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig I can switch between what I have now (Type1, TTF) and Bitmap fonts. But I can't use both at the same time.
[11:54] <ompaul> waseem, cat /etc/issue << that is what you need
[11:54] <Ghotcom> aftertaf: don t know but the small one http://www.netopia.com/equipment/pdf/spec/3342.pdf
[11:54] <waseem> thanks
[11:55] <nalioth> BROKEN_LADDER: whats a gizmo?
[11:55] <Ghotcom> aftertaf: i have to ask my client (friend )
[11:55] <waseem> ok so im wired to a wireless router, and for some reason on windows my internet is faster than on linux, any ideas?
[11:56] <Turms> i've downloaded the breezy preview, how can i use it to update hoary?
[11:56] <Ghotcom> waseem: you re using MSN protocol ? :-D
[11:57] <Ghotcom> aftertaf: i can t seem to point out the chipset on the specs
[11:57] <Ghotcom> aftertaf: and you ?
[11:59] <ompaul> aftertaf, appears to be ar5005 chipset
[12:00] <pad> morgen
[12:01] <er4z0r> pad ist freitag :P
[12:01] <nalioth> er4z0r: what is friday?
[12:01] <Seveas> morgen
[12:01] <aftertaf> Ghotcom> is this it?  http://www.netopia.com/equipment/pdf/spec/3342.pdf
[12:01] <pad> hehe :)
[12:01] <Seveas> (tomorrow)
[12:01] <pad> ich bruach mal nen linux gott ^^
[12:01] <pad> *brauch
[12:01] <ompaul> tomorrow is today, yesterday
[12:02] <Seveas> pad, englisch hier bitte
[12:02] <Seveas> deutsch -> #ubuntu-de
[12:02] <nalioth> mein herren, bitte im #ubuntu-de
[12:02] <pad> ach gna
[12:02] <ompaul> nalioth, yeah speak english :)
[12:02] <pad> k again :P
[12:02] <nalioth> ompaul: you're just jealous
[12:02] <pad> goog mornin'
[12:02] <pad> ^^
[12:02] <pad> i need an linux god :>
[12:02] <ompaul> thanks guys :)
[12:02] <Seveas> pad, for what?
[12:02] <nalioth> pad: you are a linux god
[12:02] <er4z0r> pad: sis is se inglish speekin tschaennl ;)
[12:03] <pad> i have an samsung x 20 laptop, with an pcmcia netgear wg511t wlan card...
[12:03] <HiddenFly> for some reason, i cant use backports repository, any ideas what would be wrong? im using the mirrormax.net as told in the wiki
[12:03] <Seveas> yuck, sounds like ndiswrapper work...
[12:03] <pad> i just tried to use the win xp driver......because the system isn't running my card :/
[12:03] <waseem> ghotcom: no
[12:03] <waseem> hehe
[12:03] <Seveas> HiddenFly, 'can't use'?
[12:03] <Seveas> pad, use the w2k driver
[12:03] <ompaul> pad, you don't need a linux god you need
[12:03] <HiddenFly> yea i cant download package lists from it
[12:03] <nalioth> HiddenFly: breezy or hoary?
[12:03] <HiddenFly> hoary
[12:03] <ompaul> !tell pad about ndiswrapper
[12:04] <pad> with ndiswrapper he says: driver loaded, but he didn't say that the hardware is present -.-
[12:04] <Seveas> HiddenFly, then pick another mirror
[12:04] <nalioth> HiddenFly: can you ping it?
[12:04] <HiddenFly> yea, and i can access it with firefox
[12:04] <pad> Seveas, w2k and xp driver are the same -.-
[12:04] <HiddenFly> ive tried some other mirrors i found with google, but no help
[12:04] <Noffielouff>  hi! im trying to run live-cd on my laptop and i can hear kde start but i don't see anything.. my screen i black! i have tryed with 3 different lice-cd:s but it is always same fault
 any there who have some ideas?
[12:04] <nalioth> Noffielouff: tell us your hardware again
[12:04] <pad> thx ompaul  :)
[12:04] <nalioth> Noffielouff: just like you did in #kubuntu
[12:04] <Seveas> HiddenFly, make sure your sources.list entries are correct
[12:05] <Seveas> I can download from it just fine
[12:05] <HiddenFly> k
[12:05] <Noffielouff> nalioth: hehe... trying maybe better luck here
[12:05] <nalioth> Seveas: do you know how to get ubotu to spit out the package numbers ?
[12:06] <nalioth> Noffielouff: there are more folks here
[12:06] <aftertaf> !info udev
[12:06] <ubotu> udev: (/dev/ management daemon), section admin, is extra. Version: 0.050-3ubuntu7 (hoary), Packaged size: 232 kB, Installed size: 696 kB
[12:06] <aftertaf> ^^^ nalioth
[12:06] <vinboy> is there any good php and html editor?
[12:06] <vinboy> where i can remotely edit ftp files
[12:06] <Seveas> Nakkel, package numbers?
[12:06] <vinboy> without having to download it and upload it
[12:06] <ompaul> k
[12:06] <nalioth> aftertaf: no, i want ALL the packages and their combined size
[12:06] <Seveas> vinboy, those editors download it for you usually
[12:07] <nalioth> vinboy: quanta, screen, bluefish, nvu, etc and on and on
[12:07] <aftertaf> ok sorry :/
[12:07] <Seveas> unles you use ssh to login on the server and edit them there with vim :)
[12:07] <vinboy> thanks guys!!!
[12:07] <aftertaf> evil Seveas  ;)
[12:07] <aftertaf> vim :] 
[12:07] <gerarcone> hi to all, i can't run xpdf or acrobat. when i try to open a .pdf from the browser, it opens a new window but nothing appears. only gpdf works well
[12:07] <Seveas> nalioth, that's not an easy thing to ask iirc
[12:07] <ompaul> gerarcone, if breezy use evince
[12:08] <Seveas> gerarcone, how did you install acrobat?
[12:08] <nalioth> Seveas: we'll wait on cafuego then
[12:08] <Inf3ctedfx> Hello ppl... can anybody tell me hhow can I create a launcher or actually, what is the command do I have to type on the launcher for LimeWire?  my LimeWire folder is on /home/infected/LimeWire  and the executable is runLime.sh
[12:08] <pad> ompaul, i've done this all before.....but it doesn't work :/
[12:08] <nalioth> !tell Inf3ctedfx about smeg
[12:08] <gerarcone> Seveas: i found it in the "Add applications" dialog
[12:08] <pad> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[12:08] <boxerboy29> command would be limewire i think
[12:08] <pad> gna
[12:08] <gerarcone> ompaul: one moment, that i find it
[12:08] <Seveas> Inf3ctedfx, /home/infected/LimeWire/runLime.sh is your command
[12:09] <Seveas> really ?!?
[12:09] <pad> Installed ndis drivers:
[12:09] <pad> netw511 driver present
[12:09] <pad>  <- here u c an see, what comes when i  type : ndiswrapper -l
[12:09] <gerarcone> ompaul: ok, it seems to work
[12:09] <ompaul> pad, paste in paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:09] <gerarcone> ompaul: how can i create pdf files instead?
[12:09] <Seveas> gerarcone, dpkg -l 'adobe*'
[12:10] <Seveas> and paste the output on the pastebin
[12:10] <Inf3ctedfx> Seveas: I already try that one but it wont run.. usually on console I type:  sh runLime.sh and runs fine
[12:10] <ompaul> gerarcone, use Openoffice and use the export function
[12:10] <gerarcone> Seveas: now i've removed acrobat
[12:10] <Seveas> Inf3ctedfx, in the console: chmod +x runLime.sh
[12:10] <gerarcone> Seveas: i you want, i can re-install it again and try that command
[12:11] <Inf3ctedfx> ok let me try that Seveas
[12:11] <gerarcone> ompaul: thanks, it seems to be very simple
[12:11] <ompaul> pad, with the module loaded have you done system - administration - networking?
[12:11] <selinium> How do i removed realplayer, it was installed from the bin file.
[12:11] <Inf3ctedfx> thx Seveas it runs fine..
[12:11] <Seveas> gerarcone, you can run the command now too ;)
[12:11] <selinium> Hi Seveas :) Saving the world again! :D
[12:11] <gerarcone> Seveas: ok, just a moment
[12:12] <pad> sure, but there isn't a wlan0 device..
[12:12] <boxerboy29> i think there is somethign relly wrong with the opera site
[12:12] <Seveas> boxerboy29, yeah, it's opera :/
[12:12] <boxerboy29> lol
[12:12] <Inf3ctedfx> now, Seveas  I use to have a Dock on my previeus linux but I dont remember the name of the program, does anyone remember the name of any Dock 2 run on linux?
[12:12] <yao_> i can't install scim,who can tell me?
[12:12] <scanwinder> with proxy environment variables, if there's a server with and IP 10.15.24.3 and port 3128 .........is it like "export http_proxy=http://10.15.24.3:3128/"?
[12:12] <boxerboy29> seveas i downloaded it 3 times lastnight and all 3 were broken
[12:13] <gerarcone> Seveas: it seems that it can find no packages
[12:13] <nalioth> Inf3ctedfx: superkaramba gdesklets adesklets  ???
[12:13] <Seveas> boxerboy29, opera 8.5 from their site won't run on breezy
[12:13] <selinium> boxerboy29, why opera? :)
[12:13] <Inf3ctedfx> nalioth: do u know the website?
[12:13] <Seveas> you need a patched .deb file from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (thanks to FunkyHat)
[12:13] <boxerboy29> well that could deffently have caused those errors
[12:14] <yao_> it's why? sudo apt-get install scim,it displays E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:14] <yao_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:14] <nalioth> Inf3ctedfx: all 3 are available in the repos
[12:14] <selinium> yao_, synaptic
[12:14] <Seveas> yao_, close synaptic
[12:15] <nalioth> yao_: either your are running more than one apt/synaptic or you are not root
[12:15] <Seveas> or any other package manager you are running
[12:15] <selinium> Seveas, I beat ya!
[12:15] <yao_> it can't download also
[12:15] <pad> ompaul, u have an idea, what i can do to become the card working ?
[12:15] <gerarcone> Seveas: what do you say?
[12:15] <Seveas> selinium, only because I was digging through a gig of postfix logs :)
[12:15] <Inf3ctedfx> mmm let me c that nalioth  cuz actually I forgot how to use the repos
[12:15] <yao_> no ,i'm root
[12:15] <Seveas> anyhow, gotta get breakfast
[12:15] <Seveas> bbl
[12:15] <nalioth> Seveas: cold porridge?
[12:15] <selinium> Seveas, I know you can type a hell of alot faster than me!
[12:15] <selinium> Hi nalioth
[12:15] <nalioth> selinium: Seveas is a bot
[12:16] <nalioth> selinium: howdy
[12:16] <gerarcone> Seveas: breakfast... what time is it there?
[12:16] <ompaul> pad, plug the card out and replace it
[12:16] <selinium> !Seveas
[12:16] <ubotu> selinium: Wish i knew
[12:16] <selinium> lol
[12:16] <ompaul> pad then check dmesg for info about modules
[12:16] <yao_> and i already close the synaptic:(
[12:16] <nalioth> selinium: i thought you knew that
[12:17] <pad> ompaul, ill post the dmesg in the link u give me before, cause i searched on it, but wasn't able to find ne thing :/ and sry for my bad english -.-
[12:17] <selinium> nalioth, Do you know how to unistall realplayer, i 'installed' it fromt the bin file.
[12:17] <ompaul> pad unplug it and plug it in again - the old hack :)
[12:18] <nalioth> pad: dein englisch is sehr gut
[12:18] <Seveas> gerarcone, 12:18 ;)
[12:18] <nalioth> selinium: locate it and remove it
[12:18] <ompaul> Seveas, you are in the future her it is 11:18
[12:18] <gerarcone> Seveas: LOL
[12:18] <nalioth> aber mein deutch is schlect
[12:18] <yao_> who can tell me!!!
[12:18] <boxerboy29> its 6:18am here :(
[12:19] <gerarcone> Seveas: here is 12:18 too
[12:19] <nalioth> timecalls in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:19] <gerarcone> Seveas: but in a few minutes i'm ready for the lunch!!!
[12:19] <pad> ompaul, ive unplugged it but the card isn't present..
[12:19] <pad> danke nalioth  :)
[12:19] <pad> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2428
[12:20] <pad> nalioth, dein deutsch is auch gut g
[12:21] <boxerboy29> is there a site to get older version of opera for breezy?
[12:22] <ompaul> pad your machine has seen the card - pw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.0.6 << if this is the wrong driver you need to remove the module and get on with it - iwconfig into pastebin please
[12:22] <pad> ompaul, thats my integrated wlan card, but i have a second..for diverse tools u know, and the pcmcia card is 108mbit..
[12:22] <pad> k i'll post moment pls
[12:23] <scanwinder> with proxy environment variables, if there's a server with and IP 10.15.24.3 and port 3128 .........is it like "export http_proxy=http://10.15.24.3:3128/"?
[12:23] <nalioth> boxerboy29: opera keeps all their old versions onsite
[12:23] <scanwinder> and what do i put to remove the proxy?
[12:23] <gerarcone> goodbye people, it's time to eat something!!!
[12:23] <nalioth> scanwinder: you comment out that line with a #
[12:23] <boxerboy29> ok ty i will go back and look for them again
[12:23] <BooYaaKaa> hi all ....i just installed ubuntu and i get an error while i try to change resolution : The X Server does not support the XRandR extension
[12:24] <pad> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2429
[12:24] <nalioth> !tell BooYaaKaa about resolution
[12:25] <bazh> hello, after installing hoary, xorg all of a sudden uses 30-40% cpu while doing nothing; an upgrade to breezy didnt help either. Any hints? Or is it a known problem?
[12:25] <bazh> ive lowered the resolution a bit, that seems to work, but the problem is somewhere else
[12:25] <pad> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2430 <--the i posted the info with cardctl info and status
[12:25] <pad> there u can see that the card is there -.-
[12:25] <bazh> ive strace-ed the process, and it seems it tries to read something from an unknown filehandle
[12:26] <scanwinder> nalioth: how do u mean comment out? is that supposed to be in a script or something?
[12:26] <scanwinder> nalioth: i thought i was ment 2 type it at command line
[12:27] <bazh> select(256, [1 9 10 11 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30] , NULL, NULL, {689, 759000}) = ? ERESTARTNOHAND
[12:27] <bazh> (To be restarted)
[12:27] <kieko> can anybody help make some online games work on linux
[12:27] <ompaul> pad have a look at that - see if they got resolution http://newsarchiv.tugraz.at/browse/tu-graz.betriebssysteme.linux/msg11370.html  is the other card working?
[12:27] <kieko> can anybody help make some online games work on linux T_T
[12:27] <Seveas> bill, aren't you in the wrong place?
[12:27] <bazh> it does select on the FH's, but with such a rate, it logs about 10meg in 30 secs
[12:27] <bazh> not normal
[12:27] <billgates> lol
[12:28] <billgates> nope...i trashed my windows :)
[12:28] <kieko> yeah... this aint microsoft..
[12:28] <pad> ompaul, u mean the intel 2200bg? yes sure this card is working, with this i'm online now...
[12:28] <ompaul> pad sorry my brain is fried :)
[12:28] <ompaul> pad most of the time anyway :)
[12:28] <BooYaaKaa> the thing is it worked befor with the 2.6.10-5-i386 but when i try moving to smp it all started
[12:29] <Echelon-H> hi
[12:29] <pad> i look at ur link yet....but my bios is not too old, this notebook is only 2 weeks old g
[12:30] <Echelon-H> if i want to install DamnSmallLinux, can I install it on the same swap partition of my ubuntu?
[12:30] <billgates> humm.....i have to go to work on my linux now...see ya @all
[12:31] <ompaul> pad any of the liinks I see say what Seveas said - use the 2k/xp driver
[12:31] <Seveas> Echelon-H, you can use the same swap for both distros
[12:31] <BooYaaKaa> Echelon-H i installed 4 linux os with 1 swap
[12:31] <boxerboy29> opera 8.01 run on breezy?
[12:31] <nalioth> pad: that is the trouble. linux doesnt like new hardware
[12:31] <zwit_trish> l
[12:31] <Seveas> boxerboy29, 8.5 too is you use the patched package
[12:31] <nalioth> Echelon-H: you mean you want to have it use the same swap?
[12:32] <boxerboy29> the site didnt give me a choice for patched or not
[12:32] <nalioth> ompaul: are you one of those guys who gets to work at 9 and takes a coffee break from 9:15 til 11?
[12:32] <kieko> anyone wants to help a new ubuntu user?
[12:32] <Echelon-H> Seveas, ok, thx seveas.
[12:32] <nalioth> kieko: if you ask us a question
[12:32] <kieko> thanks
[12:33] <pad> ompaul, i use the xp driver.....g but i have seen something in ur link. i'm going to test it now, i'll shutdown the normal cable ethernet card, maybe is thbe irq full -.-
[12:33] <kieko> how to make some Online game work on ubuntu?
[12:33] <Seveas> boxerboy29, I told you already that the patched one can be grabbed from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:34] <pad> hmm
[12:34] <Echelon-H> nalioth, yes.
[12:35] <nalioth> Echelon-H: dsl should see the linux swap by itself, and if not i believe you can go to dsl.org (or whatever it is) and get the boot option to show it your swap
[12:37] <Trewas> hmm, am I understanding correctly that /etc/acpi/lid.sh does not even try to suspend (to RAM) the computer? this is on breezy, updated today
[12:38] <selinium> is there a way i can pipe locate into rm to remove all realplayer files?
[12:39] <ubuntuNOOB> T_T
[12:39] <Seveas> selinium, locate "all relplayer files" | xargs rm
[12:39] <Ng> selinium: for I in `locate somestuff` ; do rm $I ; done   but obviously be careful ;)
[12:39] <Ng> ah yeah, xargs :)
[12:39] <Seveas> xargs is nice
[12:39] <Ng> yep
[12:40] <nalioth> selinium: if you're very very careful
[12:40] <selinium> Seveas, Ooooh A new one for me to look at! :)
[12:40] <guillem101> Can I restrict ssh acces from a list of hosts? I'm doing this through firewall, but I ask if it is possible to do so by /etc/sshd_config
[12:40] <Seveas> selinium, info coreutils
[12:40] <Seveas> lots of fun to loook at
[12:41] <selinium> Seveas, CHeers! Another slice of my life teken! :)
[12:41] <selinium> taken*
[12:41] <[A] ndy80> I've a problem with network-admin utility. It's very usefull we can have multiple profiles, but it doesn't seem to work very good. For example... switching from one profile to another is very very slow. Timeout if something is wrong is very high too. And another thing: it's like it cannot save settings properly because if I switch to another profile (for example that uses another wifi access point) I still see the old wep key. How
[12:41] <[A] ndy80>  can I fix these things?
[12:41] <kemik> guillem101:  yes it's possible
[12:41] <zwit_trish> hey
[12:42] <guillem101> kemik, I've been checking man page but I don't get it
[12:42] <Seveas> Another bot-shower :|
[12:42] <guillem101> kemik, any link to how to do that?
[12:42] <mwright1night> when is ubuntu breezy due? I heard october 10ish?
[12:42] <mwright1night> would that be correct
[12:42] <Seveas> 13
[12:42] <zwit_trish> shot op!1hahaha
[12:42] <David_WI> im getting different results from md5sum every time
[12:43] <brownie17> how can i make gaim minimize when i click the X button?
[12:43] <mwright1night> Where is crawford texas? Is it north of houston?
[12:43] <David_WI> on a burned ubuntu breezy cd
[12:43] <boxerboy29> it gives error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5 cannit open shared object file no such file
[12:43] <selinium> Seveas, there are some references in dpkg, are they ok to delete? I tried dpkg -P and it said it wasn't installed...
[12:43] <ompaul> David_WI, it should give the same value time after time I would name it coaster and check the original image was okay
[12:43] <Seveas> zwit_trish: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[12:44] <zwit_trish> whatever
[12:44] <boxerboy29> i tried apt-get install that file and it said couldnt find package
[12:44] <David_WI> the orig is fine i checked as soon as it was done downloading
[12:44] <David_WI> this is F***ed
[12:44] <kemik> guillem101:  well, you have to edit hosts.allow and/or hosts.deny
[12:44] <nalioth> boxerboy29: you got all your sources enabled?
[12:45] <boxerboy29> yes
[12:45] <Seveas> boxerboy29, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2
[12:45] <Seveas> you need that package
[12:45] <guillem101> kemik, which other services may be affected by hosts.allow?
[12:45] <boxerboy29> see now im second guessing myself
[12:45] <brownie17> anybody help me? i want Gaim to just minimize when i click the close button
[12:45] <Seveas> brownie17, use the systray plugin
[12:46] <scanwinder> does anyone know if i can get tinyproxy to go through a proxy itself
[12:46] <kemik> guillem101:  apache, ftp etc etc afaik
[12:46] <selinium> brownie17, it does...
[12:46] <kemik> guillem101:  most of the "server-services"
[12:47] <nalioth> scanwinder: you should be able to chain proxies til you run out of calculators
[12:47] <Echelon-H> is there any program like partition manager that I can edit partitions without damaging their data?
[12:47] <guillem101> kemik, so there is no "granularity" except by using firewall, isn't it?
[12:47] <nalioth> Echelon-H: parted
[12:47] <nalioth> Echelon-H: or it's gui frontends g- or qt-
[12:47] <scanwinder> nalioth: how do u mean till i run out of calculators?...........but anyway, do u know howto do it with tinyproxy?
[12:48] <guillem101> kemik, I thank you very much your help.
[12:48] <brownie17> selinium, Seveas i had the systray icon activated, but it still closes, it is really anoying. i accidnetly changed a setting to make it do that. i am used to clicking x for minimise, and people get angry when i keep logging in and out
[12:48] <selinium> brownie: in prefences/ plugins tick system icon tray
[12:48] <Echelon-H> ok
[12:49] <Echelon-H> thanks nalioth
[12:49] <nalioth> scanwinder: you should be able to tell it to look to a proxy instead of the open internet
[12:49] <David_WI> ill try it on another machine
[12:49] <kemik> guillem101:  no i dont think there's much 'granularity' but id google it if i were you... im no guru on the hosts.allwo/deny ;)
[12:50] <David_WI> but both ubuntu and debian are not functioning properly when it comes to checking burned disks lately
[12:50] <guillem101> kemik, I guess that it is enough for me. I just want to disable the firewall for a period of time, and I don't want the machine exposed to ssh.... thanks.
[12:50] <brownie17> selinium, Seveas any ideas?
[12:51] <scanwinder> nalioth: i cant find anything in the config file for doing that
[12:51] <nalioth> scanwinder: i'm not familiar with tinyproxy, perhaps the faqs or forums on it's website?
[12:52] <selinium> brownie17, Have you chacked your prefs?
[12:52] <selinium> checked
[12:52] <brownie17> selinium, aprox 7,000 times
[12:53] <selinium> brownie17, If it was me I'd probably reinstall it.
[12:53] <dealt> wat's d best, decent multimedia player in ubuntu?
[12:53] <boci^> hi
[12:53] <boci^> how can I disable the PCMCIA support?
[12:53] <boci^> My System is halted when it's try to start
[12:53] <boxerboy29> seveas: i added the package libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 and it gives me same out put as before
[12:54] <boxerboy29> its still saying cannot open shared object file
[12:54] <David_WI> boci: there are boot options
[12:54] <boci^> I try the detect option
[12:54] <boci^> it's not want to try to load the module
[12:54] <boci^> but the service try to start
[12:55] <boci^> and my system is crashed...
[12:55] <boci^> (caps/numlock no effect)
[12:55] <boci^> I can't do anything only power off
[12:55] <boci^> (Notebook have PCMCIA but linux not recognize correctily)
[12:56] <David_WI> guys whats the option to disable pcmcia at boot asks boci  :-] 
[12:56] <boci^> the option is: hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false
[12:56] <David_WI> and that dosnt work?
[12:56] <boci^> but the service kill my machine... not the kernel module
[12:56] <David_WI> weird
[12:57] <guillem101> kemik, one question more.... do I have to restart ssh service or it looks up /etc/hosts.deny every time a connection is requested?
[12:57] <nalioth> guillem101: it looks each time
[12:57] <Seveas> boxerboy29, my mistake, it's libstdc++5
[12:57] <boci^> any idea?
[12:58] <Seveas> boci^, chmod -x /etc/init.d/pcmcia
[12:59] <guillem101> nalioth, thanks.
[12:59] <boci^> Seveas: I not have console!
[12:59] <boci^> Live cd
[12:59] <boxerboy29> seveas thank you that worked like a charm
[01:00] <Seveas> live cd has a console too :)
[01:00] <selinium> What is the best wat to stay in root... I have been using sudo su but i have seen other ways banded about..
[01:01] <Seveas> sudo -i
[01:01] <brownie17> somebody tell the rhythmbox creators that for their next version, everytime it starts up it should check the list of directories for new music, and every 10 mins.
[01:01] <Seveas> (or sudo su -)
[01:01] <bimberi> selinium: sudo -i
[01:01] <selinium> cheers peeps
[01:02] <HiddenFly> after installing ati drivers (fxgrl or something like that), my resolution went to the maximun and refreshrate changed to 60Hz. It doesnt let me to open "change resolution" from the menus, error is "X server doesnt support XRandR extension". How can i fix it or change resolution in some other way?
[01:02] <boci^> Seveas: before the services starting?
[01:03] <brownie17> seveas, why is it that even when i use the "complete removal" option in syanptic, ten re-install a program, all it's settings are still there?
[01:03] <boci^> ahh rulz
[01:03] <nalioth> brownie17: b/c you are not cleaning out your ~/.gaim directory
[01:04] <Seveas> brownie17, then the package is broken and does not register its configfiles properly or (more likely) it stores configuration in your homedir or gconf which does not het deleted with a complete removal
[01:04] <brownie17> nalioth, if i do that, then just restart Gaim, will all the settings be gone?
[01:04] <nalioth> brownie17: yes
[01:04] <kemik> Seveas:  could you explain why "sudo -i" is better than "sudo -s" ?
[01:04] <Seveas> -i resets $HOME and $USER
[01:04] <kemik> Seveas:  "sudo -s" == "sudo su" ?
[01:04] <Seveas> yes
[01:04] <kemik> aight.. ty
[01:04] <bazh> HiddenFly: it seems X doenst let you use this extension, or you forgot to load something else, before.
[01:04] <brownie17> nalioth, Seveas thanks
[01:04] <Seveas> and sudo -i ~ sudo su -
[01:04] <kemik> yeah.. figured it was so
[01:04] <kemik> but wasnt 100%
[01:05] <Echelon-H> how can I update my fluxbox? I want to get 0.9.14 and ubuntu's latest is 0.9.11
[01:05] <brownie17> nalioth, it works! nice job lads!
[01:05] <bazh> HiddenFly: you have to specify HorizSync and VertRefresh
[01:05] <nalioth> brownie17: of course! ;)
[01:05] <HiddenFly> bazh: well, i did like i was instructed in wiki site
[01:05] <HiddenFly> bazh: how can i specify them?
[01:05] <bazh> HiddenFly: find the right values for your monitor, X will know what resolution you can handle if you set it properly
[01:06] <bazh> HiddenFly: the ati drivers will enable fancy stuff, some hardware accerleration, opengl, that kind of stuff
[01:06] <bazh> you specify them in the xorg.conf file, in section Monitor
[01:06] <bazh> that are the keywords....so for example:
[01:06] <bazh>         HorizSync       30-81
[01:06] <bazh>         VertRefresh     56-75
[01:07] <HiddenFly> 	HorizSync	30-71
[01:07] <HiddenFly> 	VertRefresh	50-160
[01:07] <HiddenFly> for me
[01:07] <bazh> if its correct, X sometimes trows in some values itself, or it tries to probe it
[01:07] <HiddenFly> how do i know what are right values?
[01:07] <bazh> you have to look it up somewhere, maybe on the back of your monitor
[01:08] <HiddenFly> k
[01:08] <bazh> googling for something like "samsung refresh +710v
[01:08] <guillem101> HiddenFly, usually at the manual if you still have it
[01:08] <bazh> googling for something like "samsung refresh +710v"
[01:08] <bazh> will work
[01:08] <guillem101> HiddenFly, (the monitor manual)
[01:08] <HiddenFly> nothing on the back of the monitor
[01:09] <bazh> hehe ;)
[01:09] <HiddenFly> yea if i would have got a manual with it
[01:09] <bazh> there's a site somewhere, forgot the name, they list most monitors
[01:09] <bazh> hold on...
[01:09] <HiddenFly> ill check the cd i got with it and hope it doesnt have some fancy windows stuff
[01:09] <bazh> http://www.monitorworld.com/
[01:09] <HiddenFly> k
[01:09] <NoHope> hello all
[01:10] <fluvvell> wha
[01:10] <guillem101> kemik, seems that sshd has proper options afterall (http://wks.uts.ohio-state.edu/sysadm_course/html/sysadm-566.html)
[01:11] <guillem101> nice
[01:11] <HiddenFly> my monitor is not there, so ill search the cd
[01:12] <prolsd> guys, ubuntu says that i have 1 broken package and to use the "broken" filter to locate it
[01:12] <prolsd> otherwise it won't update
[01:12] <prolsd> what's the broken filter? :)
[01:12] <vegiVamp> hmm... I just read that OCFS2 will be included in Breezy - has anyone got any experience with it that they'd be willing to share ?
[01:13] <prolsd> was looking on the wiki but can't seem to locate it.
[01:13] <vegiVamp> prolsd: a filter in synaptic
[01:14] <HiddenFly> bazh: according to the manual on the cd, the values in xorg.conf are right
[01:14] <nalioth> prolsd: on the bottom left of your synaptic are 4 buttons
[01:15] <nalioth> prolsd: one of them will bring up "broken" in the left window
[01:15] <prolsd> alright let me try this
[01:15] <nation> where is grub.conf  located in ubuntu?
[01:15] <reiki> Hiddenfly: your manual is available in pdf format as well
[01:15] <bazh> HiddenFly: have you set up the correct modes for each color depth?
[01:15] <prolsd> it's my opera
[01:15] <nalioth> nation: in a terminal type "locate grub.conf"
[01:15] <HiddenFly> yea it is
[01:15] <reiki> I'm looking at it
[01:15] <prolsd> just tried to install it
[01:15] <HiddenFly> bazh: ?
[01:15] <prolsd> was missing a dependancy (wasn't aware of this)
[01:15] <kemik> guillem101:  ah.. nice.. ;)
[01:16] <bazh> HiddenFly: below the section for you monitor, you can see the options for which color depth you want (DefaultDepth)
[01:16] <nation> typed that but nothing happend
[01:17] <prolsd> naliot, vegiVamp, do you maybe know where i can see the error log of that last install i tried to do?
[01:17] <prolsd> i need to download that file to be able to install opera
[01:17] <bimberi> nation: it's /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:17] <HiddenFly> theres just Depth and Modes(resolution) and thats all
[01:17] <bazh> it specifies the resolution for each depth, or better to say, it lists all possible resolutions
[01:17] <vegiVamp> prolsd: not sure there is one
[01:17] <prolsd> oh, crap.
[01:17] <bazh> no DefaultDepth? Hmmm...you have to set it....
[01:18] <HiddenFly> defaultdepth is 24
[01:18] <prolsd> do you perhaps know what I need for opera to install properly?
[01:18] <vegiVamp> prolsd: just go to a root console and type apt-get install <brokenpackage>
[01:18] <killapop> hi all!!!
[01:18] <vegiVamp> it'll try the same thing again and you'll see what's wrong
[01:18] <prolsd> i was installing opera -- the opera was the broken package
[01:18] <prolsd> it didn't install because i was missing something
[01:18] <killapop> is there a way to undo actions or rollback commands issued from the command line?
[01:19] <vegiVamp> prolsd: if you try again, it'll complain again and you'll see what happened
[01:19] <HiddenFly> ill try removing the resolutions that are larger than the one i want to use if that would help
[01:19] <prolsd> this is what i find so confusing sometimes, with linux you don't know you're missing some file until you're trying to install something and it gives errors :).
[01:19] <David_WI> anyone done a server install with ubuntu?
[01:19] <bazh> HiddenFly: well, you have to fiddle around a bit, i would use the non-ati drivers (since it b0rks) or check the specs for the ati card, see if you dont need any extra libs etc
[01:19] <vegiVamp> theoretically, apt-get should grab all that you need :-)
[01:19] <prolsd> alright, let's see
[01:19] <bazh> for example, try getting it to work with DefaultDepth 16
[01:19] <prolsd> ill try the install again, but i'd want a log
[01:20] <bazh> sometimes helps a bit...but X config is so specific, hard to debug, its a biatch :))
[01:20] <David_WI> i want to start with a stripped system then add only the apps i want thru apt-get
[01:20] <barosl> can partition magic convert primary partition to logical partition?
[01:20] <HiddenFly> k
[01:20] <David_WI> what services are installed/enabled bu default in the server installation?
[01:20] <David_WI> *by
[01:20] <Digis> I changed, sudoers permissions, how can I fix that? cause I need root access to unchange permissions, bet then I try sudo  it says  sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0660, should be 0440
[01:21] <prolsd> do you maybe know how i can add a command for logging vegiVamp ?
[01:21] <vegiVamp> command |tee -a logfile :-)
[01:21] <vegiVamp> without the smiley, of course :-)
[01:21] <prolsd> thanks :)
[01:21] <prolsd> :-] 
[01:21] <David_WI> you could boot with a livecd any chroot into you filesystem
[01:21] <David_WI> *and
[01:22] <vegiVamp> prolsd: hang on
[01:22] <prolsd> alright.
[01:22] <vegiVamp> won't work - tee only duplicates stdout
[01:22] <vegiVamp> not stderr
[01:22] <David_WI> then just chmod 440 sudoers
[01:22] <Norky> what version of fsck ships with Ubuntu 5.04?
[01:22] <vegiVamp> command 2>&1 | tee -a logfile
[01:22] <vegiVamp> that should do it
[01:22] <DjKritical> how do I change the sudo password?
[01:22] <Norky> fsck 1.35 (28-Feb-2004)   ?
[01:22] <prolsd> thanks.
[01:22] <David_WI> passwd
[01:22] <Digis> David_WI, yeah, I know, but it takes a lot of time, I was searcging for a quicker solution, anyway thanks
[01:22] <Digis> Ill dot hat :)
[01:22] <guillem101> Digis, probably reboot and at grub prompt, edit the kernel line and add "single" at the end. Boot will let you a root shell, change permission of the file and type exit afterwards, normal boot will go on
[01:22] <David_WI> k
[01:23] <David_WI> yeah thats better
[01:23] <prolsd> vegiVamp, can I pm you with the error message?
[01:23] <vegiVamp> yah
[01:23] <prolsd> might be a bit spammy here
[01:23] <prolsd> right thanks
[01:23] <vegiVamp> uhhuh :-)
[01:23] <nalioth> prolsd: if you pastebin it, more folks can see it
[01:23] <prolsd> ok nalioth
[01:23] <Norky> would someone run    /sbin/fsck -h    on a Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" box, please?
[01:24] <prolsd> http://pastebin.com/370821
[01:24] <prolsd> there you go.
[01:24] <vegiVamp> you're missing the package libqt3c102-mt
[01:24] <prolsd> well yes :] 
[01:25] <guillem101> DjKritical, sudo password??
[01:25] <vegiVamp> the problem is that the package you're installing is a sarge package, thus, debian
[01:25] <Digis> guillem101, yeah, that worked, thanks :)
[01:25] <guillem101> DjKritical, you can change your password with passwd command
[01:25] <vegiVamp> either download that package from debian and hope it works,
[01:25] <guillem101> Digis, ;-))
[01:25] <prolsd> that's odd vegiVamp, I downloaded this package from the opera site and it says it's for ubuntu. :<
[01:25] <DjKritical> can I not have a seperate password for sudo?
[01:26] <nalioth> prolsd: some places lump ubuntu with debian
[01:26] <vegiVamp> or try installing from tgz
[01:26] <guillem101> Digis, now you know why some protect the grub with a password...
[01:26] <Digis> guillem101, yeah I know :)
[01:26] <nalioth> prolsd: need to be careful of precompiled binaries (esp from non FOSS companies)
[01:26] <guillem101> Digis, resistance is futile if you have acces to the hardware, anyway. he he.
[01:26] <prolsd> http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=102853&page=1#comment1094575
[01:27] <prolsd> nalioth, well i'm willing to compile it myself
[01:27] <Digis> guillem101, but grub password, it wont help, if hacker, will take the hard drive, and mount it on other PC )
[01:27] <HiddenFly> bazh: it didnt boot x.org when i put defaultdepth to 16, i set it back to 24 and removed the large resolutions i dont use and it works now
[01:27] <prolsd> it's just that i don't know my way around ubuntu that well yet :)
[01:27] <Digis> :)
[01:27] <nalioth> prolsd: i get from ubuntu repos, compile from source and as a last resort, use another package
[01:27] <Digis> I need a man with a gun, who would protect my hdd :)
[01:27] <nalioth> prolsd: do you know your way around *nix?
[01:28] <vegiVamp> prolsd: seen that comment, you already have the needed binaries, but in another package
[01:28] <David_WI> titanium case works
[01:28] <vegiVamp> prolsd: try unpacking the sarge deb with dpkg-deb and just running int
[01:29] <David_WI> force fields
[01:29] <prolsd> hmmm vegiVamp
[01:29] <David_WI> :-P
[01:29] <prolsd> just checked out those forums
[01:29] <prolsd> seems that i can get another package that works
[01:29] <vegiVamp> better still :-)
[01:29] <nlogax> good mooorning badgers and hedgehogs
[01:29] <prolsd> should i still try to unpack sarge with dpkg-deb just for sake of sanity?
[01:29] <prolsd> just to see if it'll work
[01:29] <prolsd> screw it i'll do it
[01:32] <prolsd> have two versions on pc now, sarge and etch
[01:32] <prolsd> see if sarge works with dpkg-deb otherwise i'll take the easy route
[01:32] <dealt> greetings
[01:33] <dealt> im trying to install sun-j2sdk1.5 but im having: 'Package sun-j2sdk1.5 is not available, but is referred to by another package.' error
[01:33] <vegiVamp> prolsd: have fun :-)
[01:33] <prolsd> veg: says unknown option -i
[01:33] <prolsd> hmm, i'll just "remove" that
[01:33] <vegiVamp> do man dpkg-deb first :-)
[01:34] <vegiVamp> it's not an installer, is for package manipulation
[01:34] <prolsd> ah
[01:34] <prolsd> dpg-deb -b is probably the option i want
[01:34] <prolsd> build, right?
[01:35] <uservhy58> ive installed some new disks in my computer and they show up in proc/scsi, what command do I use to format them
[01:35] <wahlau> re
[01:35] <vegiVamp> prolsd: no, extract :-)
[01:36] <vegiVamp> you want to get the program files out of the deb
[01:36] <Kejk_PL> uservhy58: try:
[01:36] <Kejk_PL> cfdis /dev/scd...
[01:36] <Mark_H> hi all
[01:36] <wahlau> is there any tool in Ubuntu that does dual head configuration?
[01:36] <Kejk_PL> sorry, cfdisk
[01:36] <nlogax> just being in this chan with all you other Ubuntus gives me warmth ;-)
[01:37] <Mark_H> I have a server with amenworld... it would appear they use ubuntu for the operating system to recovery broekn FC3.0 dedicated servers
[01:37] <uservhy58> how do I know which devices are my new drives
[01:37] <prolsd> vegiVamp,
[01:37] <prolsd> i probably need to sudo it right?
[01:37] <Mark_H> so i can use a control panel to recover the server and ssh to the ubuntu os.
[01:37] <prolsd> sudo dpkg-deb
[01:37] <er4z0r> can anyone help with creating an Init-Script for svnserve?
[01:37] <vegiVamp> no, shouldn't be necessary
[01:37] <Mark_H> but it looks like the hdd is damanged in some way on the server.
[01:37] <vegiVamp> you're not manipulating system things
[01:37] <Norky> I appears that Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" ships with an out of date fsck that makes the "live CD" environment a bit useless for fixing FC3 boxes
[01:38] <prolsd> prodx@prodx:~$ dpkg-deb -x opera_8.50-20050916.5-shared-qt_en_sarge_i386.deb /ho/prodx/Desktop
[01:38] <prolsd> dpkg-deb: failed to create directory: No such file or directory
[01:38] <Mark_H> the actual Fedora Core 3
[01:38] <prolsd> DOH
[01:38] <prolsd> spelling error
[01:38] <vegiVamp> uhhuh :-)
[01:38] <prolsd> never knew i had a directory named "ho"
[01:38] <uservhy58> Kejik: sdc is the main drive that root is mounted on
[01:38] <prolsd> k, so what now :D
[01:39] <Norky> is there an updated fsck package for Ubuntu?
[01:39] <vegiVamp> try to run it :-)
[01:39] <prolsd> now i'd have to make it or build it
[01:39] <prolsd> oh, heh
[01:39] <prolsd> two directories: /etc/ and /usr/
[01:39] <vegiVamp> prolsd: you've just extracted the binary :-)
[01:39] <prolsd> right :)
[01:40] <prolsd> Sorry for my noobishness, but in windows terms this would be
[01:40] <prolsd> extracting the .exe, right?
[01:40] <vegiVamp> yah
[01:40] <uservhy58> i also have sda, sdb, sdc1, sdc2 and sdc5
[01:40] <Norky> Mark_H: does      ifconfig eth0    work in teh Ubuntu environment?
[01:41] <vegiVamp> if it works, I recommend you also extract the metadata, modify the control file to have the correct dependencies and then rebuild as a custom package
[01:41] <vegiVamp> makes maintenance easier :-)
[01:41] <prolsd> so erm, i have a file opera in /usr/bin
[01:41] <prolsd> shell script
[01:41] <prolsd> how'd execute it
[01:41] <prolsd> WQ#%T#% UJ
[01:42] <vegiVamp> ah, shellscript will prolly contain hardcoded paths :-)
[01:42] <vegiVamp> look for a file opera-bin or something :-)
[01:42] <Mark_H> Norky, i can access the internet from the box in recovery mode yea
[01:42] <chrissturm> how can i create a portforward with ssh?
[01:42] <David_WI> cat: meoww!!
[01:43] <prolsd> ah got it vamp
[01:43] <prolsd> found the executable
[01:43] <prolsd> but how to execute? :)!
[01:44] <vegiVamp> ./opera-bin
[01:44] <nalioth> prolsd: in a terminal, ./filename
[01:44] <Norky> Mark_H: then try    scp ipaddressofworkingFC3box:/sbin/fsck.ext3 /tmp/fsck.new
[01:44] <nalioth> prolsd: or /usr/bin/filename
[01:44] <prolsd> right, thanks
[01:44] <prolsd> so ./ is the 'execute' command
[01:44] <nalioth> prolsd: no.
[01:45] <Norky> which filesystems are writable in an Ubuntu LiveCD environment?
[01:45] <nalioth> !tell prolsd about cli
[01:45] <Mark_H> Norky, thats the thing
[01:45] <nalioth> Norky: all of them but NTFS
[01:45] <Mark_H> it isnt online when in recovery
[01:45] <Mark_H> the recovery mode lets me use a ubuntu box
[01:45] <prolsd> thanks nalioth, that's going to be useful
[01:45] <Mark_H> to mount the fc partitions.
[01:45] <Norky> nalioth: I mean, can a I write a file to /sbin or /usr?
[01:45] <Mark_H> not quite sure how Amenworld have it setup
[01:46] <Adsum> Got a question: could anyone tell me where to get these packages, libcegui-mk2-0 libcegui-mk2-dev libcegui-mk2-doc nvidia-cg-toolkit, can't be found in the ubuntu rep.
 Norky, i can access the internet from the box in recovery mode yea
[01:46] <Seveas> !info libcegui-mk2-0
 it isnt online when in recovery
[01:46] <Mark_H> sorry
[01:46] <Norky> these two statements appear to be a contradiction...
[01:46] <Mark_H> it boots my server as a ubuntu server
[01:46] <Mark_H> dont know how they do that
[01:46] <Adsum> found them in debian rep. but dont know how to add that to synaptic
[01:46] <Mark_H> but they do.
[01:47] <prolsd> hmm, gotta install motif :] 
[01:47] <Mark_H> it isnt actually booting the FC3
[01:47] <nalioth> Norky: with a livecd you can help or hinder yourself
[01:47] <Mark_H> its  booting me to Ubuntu
[01:48] <Mark_H> Like now the FC3 box pings
[01:48] <Mark_H> but i cant acccess it
[01:48] <onkarshinde> Has anyone used eagle, the circuit board designing application?
[01:49] <David_WI> later all
[01:52] <Norky> nalioth: Mark_H is the one using the Ubunt rescue environment
[01:53] <Norky> Mark_H: go back to the Ubuntu environment, and see if you can use it to copy the newer fsck from another (you have other FC3 computers, right?) , working FC3 box
[01:55] <prolsd> If you get any operamotif problems try the static version! -- uhm, what?
[01:55] <nalioth> sorry folks, my mind isnt here atm
[01:55] <nalioth> my city just announced mandatory evacuations
[01:55] <aftertaf> nalioth:  really????? jeez. when you leaving?
[01:56] <vader1102> nalioth, then do dudw\e
[01:56] <bimberi> nalioth: you take care y'hear!
[01:56] <aftertaf> go dude..... we'll be VERY happy to see you when you get back, ok?
[01:56] <er4z0r> hi there, I am trying to write an Init-Script for svnserve for the /etc/init.d/skeleton file
[01:56] <xuniluser> What web page design tools are you all using in Linux?
[01:56] <er4z0r> currently I have this
[01:56] <er4z0r> d_start() {
[01:56] <er4z0r>         start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile $PIDFILE \
[01:56] <er4z0r>                 --exec $DAEMON -d -r $REPOSROOT
[01:57] <benjamin1254> er4z0r: that can get u kicked
[01:57] <onkarshinde> xuniluser: I heard NVU is pretty good
[01:57] <vader1102> er4z0r, don't paste in here, they don't like it
[01:57] <er4z0r> vader1102: ok, what was the url for pasting again?
[01:57] <aftertaf> nalioth:  if you have trouble getting back, but you are in good health.... we'll just cross our fingers man
[01:57] <vader1102> I use #flood
[01:58] <boxerboy29> stay safe nalioth
[01:58] <er4z0r> Seveas: I think you had a pasting area at your host, right?
[01:58] <xuniluser> onkarshinde: is that supported by the Ubuntu repositories?
[01:58] <vader1102> nalioth, I will pray for you all dude, I have realatives in the Alabama areas
[01:58] <onkarshinde> xuniluser: I think it is there in universe.
[01:59] <xuniluser> onkarshinde: is it like dreamweaver?
[01:59] <benjamin1254> how can i start a gui ftp server
[01:59] <vader1102> !pastebin
[01:59] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:59] <er4z0r> anyway, now its already in here. wont do it again, but can anybody please help me
[01:59] <vader1102> er4z0r, there you go^^
[01:59] <er4z0r> ubotu: thatnks
[01:59] <ubotu> er4z0r: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:59] <onkarshinde> xuniluser: Not eaxctly. It is based on Mozilla Composer code and extended by Daniel Glazeman. see www.nvu.com
[02:00] <xuniluser> onkarshinde: oic thanks... :)
[02:00] <onkarshinde> benjamin1254: What do you mean by GUI ftp server?
[02:00] <er4z0r> ubotu: huh? sorry didn't get it
[02:00] <ubotu> er4z0r: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:00] <vader1102> Okay.....time to go to work, have a great day folks. nalioth go and get your but out of there
[02:00] <benjamin1254> a ftp server with a grafic user interface
[02:01] <bimberi> ubotu tell er4z0r about yourself
[02:01] <Seveas> benjamin1254, pure-ftpd with pureadmin is an optiion
[02:02] <Seveas> won't work completely out of the box though, it needs some command line love
[02:02] <benjamin1254> how do i get it i cant find it in apt-get
[02:02] <aftertaf> lol
[02:02] <onkarshinde> !nvu
[02:02] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, nvu is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingNvu http://www.nvu.com/ Linux/Mac/Windows Web authoring.
[02:03] <onkarshinde> !pureftpd
[02:03] <ubotu> onkarshinde: Are you smoking crack?
[02:03] <onkarshinde> !pure-ftpd
[02:03] <ubotu> Wish i knew, onkarshinde
[02:03] <Seveas> benjamin1254, enable universe
[02:03] <aftertaf> Seveas:  the start_nat script you gave me.. what else, package-wise, do i need for it to work?
[02:03] <sPYder---> hello.. i just installed bzflag and it was successful but where can i find the shorcut of the game???????
[02:03] <Seveas> aftertaf, nothing
[02:03] <aftertaf> Seveas:  hehe ok... sth else borked then ;)
[02:04] <Seveas> aftertaf, a dhcp server may be useful depending on your needs
[02:04] <aftertaf> i got myself a multihomed pc and set it up ok..... but now it can't connect to the subnet on eth0.
[02:05] <aftertaf> but the default gateway was the original one.... and when i drop eth1 it can connect to eth0 subnet
[02:05] <er4z0r> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2432
[02:05] <er4z0r> could anyone please help me with this
[02:05] <sPYder---> anyone plz help
[02:06] <Seveas> er4z0r, the -d argument needs a parameter...
[02:06] <onkarshinde> sPYder---: Isn't the shortcut present in Applications->Games?
[02:06] <er4z0r> Seveas: hm? Do you know for sure or are you guessing?
[02:06] <Seveas> that's what the error message says...
[02:06] <sPYder---> onkarshinde nope T_T
[02:07] <sPYder---> should i ctrl+alt+bkspace?
[02:07] <onkarshinde> sPYder---: It has happened to me sometime that shortcuts don't appear immediately. Try logout and login again.
[02:07] <Seveas> er4z0r, if -d is meant as argument to your program, then you need to prepend it with -- so start-stop-daemon won't interpret it
[02:08] <sPYder---> onkarshinde
[02:08] <Seveas> sPYder---, or: pkill -HUP gnome-panle
[02:08] <er4z0r> Seveas: aaah, so we're getting closer
[02:08] <sPYder---> i found the bzflag file in /usr/games but when i tried to run it, it wont
[02:08] <Seveas> I mean gnome-panel
[02:08] <er4z0r> to the problem
[02:10] <boxerboy29> ok its time to get some damn sleep night all
[02:10] <er4z0r> Seveas: now I get an error from the start stop daemon which tells me that argument --d is not known
[02:11] <sPYder---> Seveas what is  : pkill -HUP gnome-panel for??
[02:11] <er4z0r> Seveas: so actually the daemon figured it as an option for itself not for the program that should have been run
[02:11] <bimberi> sPYder---: try "dpkg -L bzflag | grep bin" which should give some clues as to what the executable is
[02:12] <er4z0r> nobody running svnserve form init.d  ?
[02:12] <bimberi> sPYder---: that pkill command refreshes the gnome-panel (and its menus)
[02:13] <xuniluser> What are the applications in Linux that uses webcams?
[02:14] <bimberi> xuniluser: there's gnomemeeting
[02:14] <xuniluser> bimberi: have you tried it?
[02:15] <bimberi> xuniluser: no sorry (no webcam - too ugly :) )
[02:15] <sPYder---> bimberi no webcam for linux?????
[02:15] <sPYder---> T_T
[02:16] <bimberi> sPYder---: no, i was saying that i haven't tried gnomemeeting :)
[02:16] <xuniluser> Anyone knows if Ubuntu is webcam friendly?
[02:20] <sPYder---> :D
[02:20] <Viper550_ubuntua> Hello
[02:22] <Viper550_ubuntua> So, I just wonder how usplash works
[02:22] <xjp> hi there
[02:22] <onkarshinde> xjp: hi
[02:23] <Viper550_ubuntua> How's breezy doin?
[02:24] <xjp> i have just installed warty. is there any reasons/advantages to upgrade to hoary or brezzy?
[02:24] <xjp> -z+e
[02:25] <Viper550_ubuntua> Breezy, loads of new stuff, graphical boot screen, all that stuff, Gnome 2.12
[02:25] <onkarshinde> xjp: Yes for hoary. No for breexy. Warty is almost 1 year old release. So upgrade to Hoary. Breexy is not final stable release yet.
[02:26] <bimberi> xjp: if you don't have to have the latest, warty is fine.  Security updates will be provided to April '06
[02:26] <benkong2> I got breezy working great on my laptop. I have an AMD64 desktop can I change sources and upgrade to breezy ok on my desktop?
[02:26] <Seveas> xjp, at least upgrade to hoary
[02:26] <Seveas> warty has become very obsolete
[02:26] <Viper550_ubuntua> Hoary has a better default desktop you know
[02:27] <cas> Hi, I like to have those nice login photo's in my GDM but it's only working for one user. The setting is good but there are no pictures shown even if i pick a default photo.
[02:27] <xjp> so can you give me a link where i can read how to upgrade to hoary? (just sed warty/hoary in the sources.list will be ok?)
[02:27] <cas> Anyone knows what could be wrong?
[02:28] <onkarshinde> xjp: replace warty in sources.list with hoary, then sudo apt-get update & sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:28] <xjp> onkarshinde: thank you. :)
[02:34] <shtron> I just changed my sources.list to breezy sources and went apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade. it finished download all the packeges and now its selecting and unpacking them. while it does, I see all sorts of error messages like unable to delete directory or stuff about the locals. should I be worried? Where can I see a log of those errors later?
[02:34] <Seveas> shtron, no you should not be worried
[02:35] <Seveas> unable to delete is a common error that isn't really an error
[02:35] <shtron> what about the locals?
[02:35] <Seveas> and the locale stuff can happen during such a massive upgrade, you should run sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales when the upgrade is done
[02:35] <shtron> k, thanks
[02:36] <benkong2> will this command work on my sources.list? sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/g'
[02:36] <Seveas> no
[02:36] <Seveas> sudo sed -e 's/warty/hoary/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:36] <Seveas> that one will :)
[02:36] <benkong2> Seveas, ??? can I have a hint?
[02:36] <xuniluser> Anyone knows any application which uses webcams in Linux?
[02:36] <benkong2> Aha! thanks
[02:37] <Seveas> xuniluser, gnomemeeting and gaim-vv
[02:37] <Derkommissar> i have a windows ce samsung pda.... i was able to syncronize it before using multisync, i have done a couple of update to my ubuntu box and the device gets connected but i dont get the port where i use to connect to sync,,,,, i use to be able to connect to /dev/ttyUSB0  now when connect it this comes out....  [4296325.749000]  usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 5
[02:37] <Derkommissar>      now how can i make the device have a /dev/ttyUSBX port ?
[02:37] <sirprice> Hi guys, I am having trouble running tuxracer..get this error ppracer: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:38] <Seveas> Derkommissar, breezy?
[02:38] <xuniluser> Seveas: is it easy to setup webcam in ubuntu? are they fast? fps?
[02:38] <sirprice> FYI my gfx is a Radeon 9600 Pro
[02:38] <Derkommissar> yes
[02:38] <Seveas> xuniluser, nevr tried it myself
[02:38] <Derkommissar> no
[02:38] <Seveas> Derkommissar, make sure you updated to the very last updates then
[02:38] <Derkommissar> yes its brezy
[02:38] <Derkommissar> i done them all
[02:39] <Derkommissar> they just keep on comming
[02:39] <Seveas> !tell sirprice about ati
[02:39] <Seveas> Derkommissar, of course, it's a development version...
[02:39] <Seveas> yesterday the updates even broke a lot (like missing /dev/ nodes
[02:39] <Derkommissar> i see
[02:39] <Seveas> that's why you should be updated to the latest now :)
[02:39] <Derkommissar> cool
[02:39] <Derkommissar> thanks
[02:40] <benkong2> do I need to drop out of x to do the breezy upgrade?
[02:40] <sirprice> has anyone installed fglrx drivers with succcess ?
[02:40] <Derkommissar> this is what is getting updated aptitude gksu gnome-app-install gnome-pilot kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2 klibc-utils libgnome-pilot2 libklibc libperl5.8 libpolyp0 perl perl-base
[02:40] <Derkommissar>   perl-modules powermanagement-interface udev
[02:40] <onkarshinde> benkong2: no.
[02:40] <benkong2> thanks
[02:40] <Derkommissar> i guess that udev should fix it
[02:41] <sirprice> No one with ATI cards here ?
[02:41] <benkong2> must be no such thing as breezy backports I get Ign on those repo sites true?
[02:42] <Seveas> Derkommissar, udev is the one indeed
[02:42] <Seveas> benkong2, breezy is not even final yet...
[02:42] <benkong2> k they were just in my hoary sources.list
[02:43] <nalioth> benkong2: lots of things in the hoary sources.list that dont work on breezy (yet)
[02:43] <shtron> anyone knows which kernel version is going to be on the final breezy?
[02:43] <leopard> Would some of the devs consider putting jpodder in instead of ipodder...ipodder has no search feature, a pretty important feature.
[02:44] <Seveas> shtron, 2.6.12
[02:44] <Seveas> leonel, jpodder sounds like java
[02:44] <Derkommissar> Seveas, i dont say this ofthen, but you are a badass
[02:44] <Seveas> does it work with GNU java?
[02:44] <Seveas> Derkommissar, ?
[02:44] <synic> what package is deb-make in?
[02:45] <Seveas> synic, deb-make?!
[02:45] <Derkommissar> Seveas, in other words, thank you
[02:45] <Derkommissar> :-)
[02:45] <Seveas> ah :)
[02:45] <synic> Seveas: you got it.
[02:45] <Seveas> yw
[02:45] <Seveas> synic, there is no such thing
[02:45] <Derkommissar> LOL
[02:45] <synic> Seveas: what do I use to make .deb packages then/
[02:45] <Seveas> if you mean dh_make it's debhelper & devscripts
[02:46] <bimberi> synic: debmake
[02:46] <leonel> :-
[02:46] <leonel> :)
[02:46] <synic> Seveas: ok, I have both installed, but there's no dh_make
[02:46] <Seveas> and maint-guide is also nice to have for package builders (together with pbuilder)
[02:46] <nlogax> xuniluser: have you tried xawtv
[02:47] <trygvebw> What has happened to the Ubuntu Guide?
[02:47] <Seveas> sorry dh_make is in dh-make
[02:47] <Seveas> and debmake (looks like a 1-command deb builder) is in debmake, but it sounds icky :)
[02:47] <nlogax> xuniluser I use a webcam with GnomeMeeting and it works really well
[02:48] <nlogax> xuniluser have you got the driver (kernel module) for your webcam installed?
[02:48] <leagris> hi
[02:48] <trygvebw> It's not on Google anymore and the site is down. :(
[02:48] <nlogax> ahhh s/he's left the chan :-/
[02:48] <Seveas> trygvebw, that's not a ':(', it's a ':)'
[02:49] <trygvebw> Seveas: why? :P
[02:49] <Seveas> because it sucked
[02:49] <trygvebw> oh?
[02:49] <trygvebw> well, at least it contained some useful information
[02:49] <leagris> did you try the wayback machine ?
[02:50] <trygvebw> will do
[02:50] <{CyberFreak}> hi all
[02:50] <Derkommissar> Seveas, what is wrong with the battery support in breezy? and susspend ?
[02:50] <Seveas> Derkommissar, nothing that I know of
[02:50] <benkong2> should I reboot after the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and then do the apt-get install ubuntu-base and desktop?
[02:50] <Derkommissar> i been looking in the wiki and there is not much about it on it
[02:51] <trygvebw> ben42: isn't it sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[02:51] <Derkommissar> but i noticed that since i upgraded from hoary it stopped working
[02:51] <Seveas> no, install them first and make sure you have linux-686 (intel cpu) or linux-k7 (amd) installed too
[02:51] <trygvebw> only?
[02:51] <Seveas> and THEN reboot
[02:51] <trygvebw> since desktop includes base afaik?
[02:51] <Seveas> trygvebw, it does not
[02:51] <trygvebw> okay.
[02:51] <benkong2> k
[02:52] <{CyberFreak}> i upgraded to ubuntu breezy and i get anauthorized access from this port
[02:52] <{CyberFreak}> deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas freenx
[02:52] <{CyberFreak}> for the freenx
[02:52] <Seveas> {CyberFreak}, that's only for the nx client :)
[02:52] <{CyberFreak}> yes
[02:52] <Seveas> the rest is downloadable without authentication
[02:53] <{CyberFreak}> yes
[02:53] <{CyberFreak}> i must authenticate to someone ?
[02:53] <Seveas> {CyberFreak}, check your PM's :)
[02:53] <apokryphos> {CyberFreak}: the man you're speaking to, yes 8)
[02:54] <benkong2> Since breezy is due an official release in a few days is there still a lot going on behind the scenes?
[02:54] <Seveas> benkong2, an AWFUL lot...
[02:54] <apokryphos> benkong2: indeed. Bugfixing till dawn
[02:55] <benkong2> oops! works great on my HP zv5000 laptop
[02:55] <bimberi> and it's constantly dawn all 'round the world :)
[02:55] <benkong2> you folks are producing a great product. wish I knew enough to help.
[02:55] <nalioth> benkong2: hang around in here, you'll learn quick
[02:56] <apokryphos> benkong2: there's many ways to help, not just coding :)
[02:56] <Seveas> benkong2, you can help in many ways
[02:56] <apokryphos> hm, we should really add a factoid
[02:56] <Seveas> apokryphos, stop beating me Lp
[02:56] <Seveas> :p
[02:56] <benkong2> I am and it's been great. I can type pretty good how or what could I do
[02:57] <apokryphos> ubotu: contribute is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/participate
[02:57] <ubotu> apokryphos: okay
[02:57] <Seveas> writing documentation, making artwork, helping people, writing code, improving the wiki, reporting bugs
[02:57] <apokryphos> benkong2: check that link :)
[02:57] <Seveas> all are ways to help :)
[02:57] <benkong2> gone to look now while my dist-upgrade is running
[02:58] <Seveas> For those who are not easily scared: I've been playing with gimp to make a hackergotchi: http://kaarsemaker.net/images/hackergotchi.jpg
[02:59] <uservhy58> when trying to cfdisk my new drive in i get a fatl error, what could be causing this?
[02:59] <crtr> how to check how much free space i`v got ?
[02:59] <Seveas> uservhy58, are you using cfdisk as root?
[02:59] <Seveas> crtr, df -h
[03:00] <Elko_> how come this channel only has 1 op?
[03:00] <crtr> 10x
[03:00] <Seveas> it has none :)
[03:00] <Elko> heh
[03:00] <thoreauputic> Elko: the others are hiding :)
[03:00] <leagris> Seveas, you don't grow a beard and you don't wear John Lenon round glasses, how do you qualify as a hacker ? ;o)
[03:00] <uservhy58> no I wasnt, I sudo'ed there though and that worked
[03:01] <Seveas> leagris, actually, I shaved my beard off for this picture :)
[03:01] <Seveas> Elko, hint: /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list
[03:01] <leagris> Gimp can shave your beard, neat :)
[03:01] <Seveas> leagris, no I mean IRL :)
[03:02] <Elko> Seveas: yeah, thanks, bit rusty/tired today
[03:02] <nalioth> Elko: on freenode no ops are needed
[03:02] <nalioth> Elko: we are all friendly and get along well
[03:03] <Elko> I dunno how many time I've seen people say "language!" in one certain channel ;)
[03:04] <apokryphos> Elko: all such good citizens 8)
[03:04] <nalioth> Elko: language?
[03:04] <nalioth> Elko: 4 here
[03:05] <Elko> nalioth: nah, I meant #gentoo
[03:05] <Seveas> ghe
[03:05] <Elko> ubuntu is making me bored.. no more hours of compiling/tweaking.. I have to find a way to actually *use* my computer now instead of just waiting for another compile to finish ;p
[03:06] <nalioth> Elko: isnt that the point of havinga computer?
[03:06] <humpSaat> hi, could someone help. my cd-drive stopped working soon after installing ubuntu and it won't even show up in bios setup. it used to be in /dev/hdd/, but has disappeared.
[03:06] <Elko> lol, yeah
[03:06] <nalioth> humpSaat: take your wallet to the store
[03:07] <Seveas> Elko, you could join the MOTU and help crating/improving packages
[03:07] <occy> is ubuntuguide.org dead?
[03:07] <occy> it's been down for a few days.
[03:07] <Seveas> then you can still watch gcc output fly by
[03:07] <apokryphos> hopefully
[03:07] <apokryphos> occy: it's probably just down though
[03:07] <occy> heh
[03:08] <uservhy58> ok, ive wrote the partition tables to the new disks. How can I expand my home directory over them?
[03:08] <occy> I know a lot of people here are "anti-ubuntuguide.org"
[03:08] <leagris> Seveas, I don't grow a beard either... And Gimp works quite well here too : http://www.noiraude.net/
[03:08] <aftertaf> occy:  works for me...
[03:08] <benkong2> Sevas apt is installing the linux-headers-amd64-k8 is that the correct kernel I need?
[03:08] <occy> how else though are you supposed to easily get things like mplayer easily installed (with proper codecs)
[03:09] <apokryphos> benkong2: if you're on a 64-bit, yes
[03:09] <occy> aftertaf, ubuntuguide.org is up for you?  I can't get to it.
[03:09] <Seveas> benkong2, no, you need linux-k8
[03:09] <benkong2> apokryphos, thanks I am
[03:09] <Elko> Seveas: yesterday I subscribed and made a change in the wiki - I'm still too new to ubuntu to decide what I'd like to do for this project, but thanks for the hint
[03:09] <apokryphos> occy: the wiki, and help here
[03:09] <benkong2> whao
[03:09] <apokryphos> occy: and ubotu
[03:09] <Seveas> benkong2, are you using amd64?
[03:09] <aftertaf> occy:  im the unlucky one then....
[03:09] <apokryphos> benkong2: ...if you're trying to get the linux headers, that is.
[03:09] <occy> apokryphos, that's the "official" way to get to do things?
[03:09] <benkong2> Seveas, yes I have an AMD64
[03:09] <occy> apokryphos, I mean, the last thing I wanna do is break my ubuntu. :)
[03:09] <apokryphos> occy: the official way is to check the wiki and the documentation, yes.
[03:09] <aftertaf> occy:  it doesnt give very god advice.....
[03:09] <nalioth> occy: we're not anti-anything. we ARE anti-instructions which breaks ubuntu boxen
[03:10] <Seveas> benkong2, then linux-k8 it is :)
[03:10] <apokryphos> occy: so don't use ubuntuguide
[03:10] <benkong2> k thanks
[03:10] <occy> apokryphos, heh
[03:10] <aftertaf> example: how to install firestarter..... type apt-get install firestarter  < good, huh?
[03:10] <apokryphos> occy: seriously, the amount of problems we've had with it in here...
[03:11] <Answer> Good morning #ubuntu
[03:11] <benkong2> gm Answer
[03:12] <Answer> I would like to do EAP-FAST authentication in Linux, but I cannot find any wireless network cards with drivers.
[03:12] <Answer> a) has anyone done EAP-FAST in Linux?   b) can I commission someone to write the drivers?
[03:12] <{CyberFreak}> what do u want   exacly ?
[03:13] <{CyberFreak}> wireless drivers ?
[03:13] <zyga> hello
[03:13] <zyga> how to setup usplash after hoary->breezy upgrade
[03:13] <trygvebw> hi zyga
[03:13] <Answer> I want wireless drivers to do EAP-FAST authentication in Linux.  In windows we have Cisco Aironet wireless cards, but in linux it could be any card
[03:13] <zyga> the package is installed but it does not work obviously
[03:14] <trygvebw> zyga: are you running the newest kernel installed?
[03:14] <zyga> trygvebw: yes, 2.6.12
[03:14] <trygvebw> ok
[03:15] <trygvebw> zyga: from the mailing list:
[03:15] <trygvebw> apt-get install usplash lsb-base initramfs-tools
[03:15] <trygvebw> dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r`
[03:15] <Seveas> Answer, wpasupplicant can do EAP-FAST
[03:16] <zyga> trygvebw: this could be added to the upgrade notes :)
[03:16] <trygvebw> zyga: maybe
[03:16] <zyga> Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...
[03:16] <zyga> is this okay?
[03:16] <trygvebw> yeah
[03:16] <zyga> okay - rebooting
[03:16] <trygvebw> :)
[03:17] <Answer> Seveas: Are there any compatible wireless cards to do wpasupplicant?
[03:17] <{CyberFreak}> trygvebw: try this: http://hostap.epitest.fi/wpa_supplicant/
[03:18] <{CyberFreak}> Seveas: prism2 2.5 3
[03:18] <Seveas> Answer, lots
[03:18] <Seveas> I use an atheros card with it
[03:18] <{CyberFreak}> yes
[03:18] <trygvebw> {CyberFreak}: ?
[03:18] <{CyberFreak}> CM9 ?
[03:18] <{CyberFreak}> minipci ?
[03:18] <{CyberFreak}> with madwifi ?
[03:18] <Answer> Seveas: we have atheros cards... what do you actually have to do to use wpasupplicant to do EAP-FAST authentication?
[03:19] <Seveas> {CyberFreak}, don't know if it's mini-pci (built-in in my laptop) and I use a non-ubuntu (but recent) version of madwifi with it
[03:19] <Seveas> Answer, you have to configure the damn thing, curse a lot and hope it works
[03:19] <Seveas> read: it will work, but it isn't very user-friendly
[03:20] <Answer> Seveas: your name isnt Pat is it ?
[03:20] <{CyberFreak}> good ! u r lucky my onboard wireless card works only with ndiswrapper ;(
[03:20] <Seveas> Answer, no, it's Dennis :)
[03:20] <{CyberFreak}> and cant switch to monito mode
[03:20] <zyga> heh :)
[03:20] <{CyberFreak}> monitor
[03:20] <zyga> it did work but for some mystical reason it defaulted to runinng memtest+
[03:20] <zyga> after a minor tweak everything is working great now :)
[03:20] <zyga> thanks
[03:21] <Seveas> {CyberFreak}, and the card is PCI according to lshal, so yeah -- mini-pci :)
[03:23] <{CyberFreak}> lucky :)
[03:24] <manuk> Hi
[03:25] <Seveas> oi
[03:26] <manuk> I've to install parted, but when i run the configure file it request the uuid_devel
[03:26] <manuk> uuid_devel is part of the e2fsprogs
[03:27] <aftertaf> just spent ages trying to figure out how i managed to break eth0 on the PC i'm trying to test NAT on..... tried all sorts... got rid of all config, removed the 2nd NIC...
[03:27] <aftertaf> ended up being the network cable in eth0 that was not 100% plugged in. GRRrrrr!
[03:27] <Seveas> roflol!!!!!!
[03:28] <Answer> Q1:  Is it plugged in?  Q2: Is it turned on?   hehe
[03:28] <nalioth> aftertaf: if it wasnt 100% plugged in, you still should've gotten some % of packets  ;)
[03:28] <aftertaf> the cable has the plastic thing that locks in place broken off it..... direction rubbish bin in like 1 seconds.....
[03:29] <aftertaf> nalioth:  hehe you think so???? (i don't!!) ;p
[03:29] <manuk> But the problem is that I've the last version of e2fsprogs
[03:30] <shtron> I just finished upgrading to breezy and I have a weird problem: some of the programs i start wait for 5 minutes before really starting
[03:30] <Arafangion> The live CD is damn fast!
[03:30] <shtron> and also the local network isn't started on startup and i have to manually run dhclient
[03:30] <Kyaneos> is there any package for gnome-volume-control??
[03:31] <manuk> Anyone can help me with e2fsprogs?
[03:31] <Arafangion> However, how does one mount the mac volume from Ubuntu?
[03:31] <Arafangion> (Default partition with Mac OS X - Yes, it's a mac)
[03:31] <benkong2> ok all cross your fingers and say a prayer I'm off to reboot into breezy
[03:31] <nalioth> Arafangion: the same way you mount any other volume
[03:32] <nalioth> Arafangion: the filesystem is "hfsplus"
[03:32] <shtron> and during boot, the system says something about the net adapter module being the wrong one
[03:32] <Seveas> Kyaneos, it should be installed with the default set of packages
[03:32] <nalioth> Arafangion: i do not recommend you keep your hfs+ partition mounted any longer than necessary for what you want to do
[03:32] <aftertaf> shtron:  thats is a known bug..... the net 8139C+ thing
[03:33] <aftertaf> shtron:  check your cable is plugged in....... :D
[03:33] <shtron> the cable is plugged
[03:33] <Arafangion> nalioth: Why?
[03:33] <Seveas> aftertaf, not everyone is as stupid as you :p
[03:33] <aftertaf> hehe mine wasnt ;)
[03:33] <aftertaf> thx Seveas :)
[03:33] <shtron> i got network when i run dhclient...
[03:33] <Arafangion> nalioth: If it's that unstable, should I mount it at all?
[03:33] <Kyaneos> Seveas, i have an expert-sever installation
[03:33] <nalioth> Arafangion: if linux crashes with the hfs+ mounted and working under linux, i personally have had bad bad things happen to the hfs+
[03:33] <Seveas> shtron, make sure your interface is set to auto and dhcp in the interfaces file
[03:34] <Seveas> Kyaneos, ah :)
[03:34] <shtron> and about the 8139, I think I need the 8139cp but have 8139too instaed. is that the bug?
[03:34] <nalioth> Arafangion: linux is not real familiar with data and resource forks
[03:34] <Seveas> dennis@mirage ~ $ dpkg -S `which gnome-volume-control`
[03:34] <Seveas> gnome-media: /usr/bin/gnome-volume-control
[03:34] <Kyaneos> thx Seveas
[03:34] <Arafangion> nalioth: I could use my USB disk instead, if that is better?
[03:34] <Kyaneos> ok
[03:34] <Kyaneos> thank you very much
[03:34] <nalioth> Arafangion: i'm just giving you the heads up on the fragility of hfs+
[03:34] <Kyaneos> i have another problem
[03:35] <shtron> what's the interfaces file?
[03:35] <Arafangion> nalioth: Thank you :)
[03:35] <Arafangion> nalioth: I appreciate not finding out the hard way :)
[03:35] <Seveas> shtron, /etc/network/interfaces
[03:35] <Kyaneos> totem says to me: Could not open resource for writing.
[03:35] <apokryphos> Seveas: do not paste in here ;-)
[03:35] <nalioth> Arafangion: my hard way cost me 27gb of lost data
[03:35] <aftertaf> lol apokryphos
[03:35] <Arafangion> nalioth: Damn, no backup?
[03:35] <apokryphos> 8)
[03:35] <Kyaneos> can somebody help me please?
[03:35] <benkong2> yes....whoopie
[03:35] <nalioth> Arafangion: you think i'm made of hard disks?
[03:35] <nalioth> lol
[03:36] <Arafangion> nalioth: I keep all my important work (about 1 gig) in subversion, so by definition, all my client computers have a "backup".
[03:36] <nalioth> Arafangion: the weird thing was: it only affected the folder on the hfs+ disk that was mounted in linux
[03:36] <nalioth> Arafangion: the other folders were fine
[03:36] <benkong2> it works you ubuntu'ies are really kool thanks Seveas and apokryphos
[03:36] <Seveas> Kyaneos, well, if you didn't do a full desktop install, probable your sound stuff isn't setup correctly
[03:36] <benkong2> and many others
[03:36] <Arafangion> nalioth: 27 gig is not a huge number of files, though.
[03:37] <apokryphos> thanks, Angel-SL 8)
[03:37] <nalioth> Arafangion: but linux crashing had trashed the data and resource forks of everything in the folder and it was pretty ugly
[03:37] <Angel-SL> :P
[03:37] <Seveas> Kyaneos, is there a good reason for you to not do the complete desktop install?
[03:37] <Kyaneos> Seveas, but why??
[03:37] <Seveas> Kyaneos, you're probably missing esd
[03:37] <Kyaneos> Seveas, it has some packages that i never will use
[03:38] <Arafangion> nalioth: I'm not sure how often I'll use it, seeing that I do not have wireless support :(
[03:38] <nalioth> Arafangion: i tried everything i know to get the stuff back, but evenutally i acknowledged my skewlin
[03:38] <Kyaneos> Seveas, i have installed libesd
[03:39] <benkong2> why is gij java used instead of sun java? Don't I need sun jdk for my eclipse environment to work while I am learning java?
[03:39] <Kyaneos> Seveas, maybe do i need libesd-alsa??
[03:39] <Kyaneos> Seveas, i use alsa for sound
[03:39] <thoreauputic> benkong2: gij java = Free sun java = non-free
[03:39] <aftertaf> ok, now ive changed cables (no comment please)   i set up one card eth0 and one eth1, do i set eth1's gateway as being eth0 ip address???
[03:40] <Arafangion> nalioth: By any chance, does standby work for you?
[03:40] <benkong2> thoreauputic, is gij compatiable for eclipse ide?
[03:40] <Kyaneos> Seveas, how can i run esd??
[03:40] <Arafangion> nalioth: When I put mine into standby, (closing the lid), it never seems to recover from it.
[03:40] <synic> Arafangion: yo
[03:40] <Arafangion> nalioth: Although the caps lock key works - nothing else seems to.
[03:40] <thoreauputic> benkong2: I don't know - someone else might
[03:40] <benkong2> k
[03:40] <Arafangion> synic: You use ubuntu? Man, you're everywhere :)
[03:41] <nalioth> Arafangion: i've never gotten standby to work on any mac i've run any linux on
[03:41] <sdschulze> Hi; I'm having trouble with sound under Breezy.
[03:41] <benjamin1254> how do i share programs and files acrossed a network? my network name is mshome
[03:41] <synic> Arafangion: indeed I do.  Does the computer seem to be on/responsive just without display?
[03:41] <nalioth> Arafangion: i just have my screen power down
[03:41] <Arafangion> synic: I guess that's the problem.
[03:41] <sdschulze> /dev/sndstat shows a card, but /dev/snd doesn't even exist.
[03:41] <synic> Arafangion: on my laptop I have to use a utility to re-power on the display when it comes back from suspend.
[03:42] <Arafangion> nalioth: Well, I almost never turn my computers off - I just shut the lid, walk into lecture, open it again, wait about a second, then start using it, despite irritating lecture :)
[03:42] <Arafangion> synic: I thought you sold it?
[03:42] <synic> Arafangion: it's not a mac
[03:42] <nalioth> goodnight y'all
[03:43] <Arafangion> synic: Well, I'm guessing that the LiveCD doesn't enable that utility by default.
[03:43] <synic> nope.
[03:43] <synic> and it's probably a different utility on a mac.
[03:43] <synic> (if there is one at all)
[03:43] <Arafangion> What's the point of requiring a utility? It should be kernel space!
[03:44] <Kyaneos> Seveas, yes, you have reason, i have not installed esound
[03:44] <Kyaneos> Seveas, thank you very much
[03:44] <synic> the utility is to make up for acpi bugs.  One of my laptops works perfectly without any utility.
[03:44] <Arafangion> synic: It's hardly a bug - if all ppc are the same?
[03:45] <synic> Arafangion: *shrug*. I know very little about ppc.
[03:46] <benjamin1254> brb all
[03:46] <shtron> what sould be in /etc/network/interfaces so that I won't have to run dhclient every time I boot?
[03:46] <thechris> I have an issue with gnome -- how do i get the "browse for other locations" option turned on by default?
[03:47] <thechris> in the save dialogs
[03:47] <elad`> I've installed fglrx-control, and nothing. Shouldn't it have added some executable on my desktop?
[03:47] <Adsum> does anyone know of a Ogre3d package for Ubuntu or ubuntu compatible atleast?
[03:48] <elad`> Echelon-H, hey man. Can you walk me through adding proper HEbrew support?
[03:49] <Seveas> elad`, install language-support-he, language-pack-he, language-pack-gnome-he
[03:49] <Echelon-H> hmmm... I dont know, I did it at the setup, and it works fine. But Im sure people around here know so just ask & wait
[03:49] <Arafangion> Can the LiveCD boot mac OS X?
[03:49] <Seveas> Arafangion, just ask it to boot from the first hard disk
[03:49] <Arafangion> (And run it inside a little window?)
[03:49] <shtron> what sould be in /etc/network/interfaces so that I won't have to run dhclient every time I boot?
[03:50] <sdschulze> Ah, udev doesn't get started properly.
[03:50] <thoreauputic> Arafangion: heh - the live CD doesn't include mac-on-linux , no
[03:50] <elad`> Seveas, what about fglrx-control? Know about that?
[03:51] <Seveas> elad`, just run the command from the terminal
[03:51] <elad`> It doesn't find it.
[03:52] <Seveas> it's called fireglcontrol
[03:52] <Oli> hiho
[03:53] <Oli> is it possible to install automatic eclipse with apt-get? or have I manually download it?
[03:53] <pipoun> apt-cache search eclipse
[03:53] <sdschulze> Before the upgrade yesterday, it did start.
[03:54] <sdschulze> ah, it's ok, I see
[03:54] <Oli> pipoun: find nothing .(
[03:54] <id_sonic> Oli no
[03:54] <pipoun> so update your sources or install manually
[03:55] <elad`> Seveas, that wouldn't make my GNOME in Hebrew, god forbid, only make me able to type in Hebrew, right?
[03:55] <Seveas> elad`, ehrm, depending on what you choose with dpkg-reconfigure locales gnome can be in hebrew :)
[03:56] <Oli> pipoun: i have made apt-get update
[03:56] <elad`> How do I avoid having it so?
[03:56] <shtron> elad, the best way to type hebrew in linux is adding some lines to the xorg.conf file
[03:56] <shtron> i can send you an example file if you want...
[03:57] <elad`> Sure, please.
[03:58] <elad`> Why isn't it acceptting?
[03:58] <shtron> don't know...
[03:58] <elad`> elad.alon@gmail.com
[03:58] <shtron> k...
[03:59] <apokryphos> shtron: you can always just use a pastebin
[03:59] <shtron> a what?
[03:59] <apokryphos> !pastebin
[03:59] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:02] <jeffisageek> hello
[04:04] <duffman25> Hi. anyone here has succesfully applied a custom DSDT to a breezy machine?
[04:05] <jeffisageek> need some help i am trying to install opera on my machine and get the error that I need ' libqt3c102-mt' but i cant seem to find that file to install so I can install opera..any help?
[04:05] <Whistler> jeffisageek just a sec
[04:06] <jeffisageek> ok
[04:06] <deFrysk> jeffisageek, you need to det the static package
[04:06] <deFrysk> jeffisageek, the static .deb
[04:06] <deFrysk> jeffisageek, that one works fine
[04:07] <Whistler> jeffisageek ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/850/final/en/i386/shared/opera_8.50-20050916.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb
[04:07] <Whistler> use this package it should work
[04:07] <mattbrown> hmm
[04:07] <thoreauputic> jeffisageek: libqt3c102-mt is in the repos
[04:07] <duffman25> Hi. anyone here has succesfully applied a custom DSDT to a breezy machine?
[04:07] <mattbrown> reportbug dies trying to report a bug...
[04:08] <mattbrown> I wonder if I should use reportbug to report this bug
[04:08] <mattbrown> :(
[04:08] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, he needs the static package
[04:08] <thoreauputic> !info libqt3c102-mt
[04:08] <ubotu> libqt3c102-mt: (Qt GUI Library (Threaded runtime version), Version 3), section libs, is optional. Version: 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 2890 kB, Installed size: 7228 kB
[04:08] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: I doubt that
[04:08] <tommy> hi
[04:08] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, dont , i know my stuff
[04:09] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: I installed Opera on a machine that has no qt on it
[04:09] <tommy> is this a german chatroom?
[04:09] <deFrysk> the ubuntu package does not take
[04:09] <tommy> i mean the language...
[04:09] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: and used the shared version
[04:09] <Seveas> jeffisageek, opera8.5 from the opera website is buggy
[04:09] <Seveas> tommy, #ubuntu-de
[04:09] <tommy> because the topic is in german.
[04:09] <jeffisageek> ok
[04:09] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, on breezy ?
[04:09] <Seveas> jeffisageek, you need the patched .deb from seveas.ubuntulinux.nl for Ubuntu
[04:09] <tommy> Seveas, ah. ok
[04:09] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: all I needed was that package
[04:09] <Answer> tommy: I see hte topic in english...
[04:09] <jeffisageek> how do i get the file via synaptic?
[04:10] <deFrysk> thoreauputic, I  just used the static version , no hassle whatsoever
[04:10] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: ah - no - Hoary : didn't realise this was Breezy
[04:10] <tommy> hm. my topic is:Das Thema fr #ubuntu ist: Prefe ...
[04:10] <thoreauputic> deFrysk: my bad, sorry
[04:10] <Seveas> jeffisageek, add this as repository: deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ ubuntu-seveas breezy-extras
[04:11] <tommy> what is the release-dae for breezy? the final release....
[04:11] <duffman25> Hi. anyone here has succesfully applied a custom DSDT to a breezy machine?
[04:11] <Seveas> duffman25, what's a DSDT again?
[04:12] <duffman25> Seveas: It's a patch for laptops
[04:12] <Seveas> laptops should work fine with ubuntu though...
[04:12] <duffman25> yes
[04:12] <duffman25> but some laptops have a buggy dsdt
[04:12] <duffman25> which makes the kernel uncapable of reading things from acpi
[04:13] <duffman25> like the battery status
[04:13] <dballester> hi to all
[04:13] <Seveas> ah ok
[04:13] <Seveas> well, no experience with that here, sorry
[04:13] <duffman25> I had my dsdt cleanly applied to a hoary install
[04:13] <jeffisageek> hold on brb
[04:13] <duffman25> upgraded to breezy
[04:13] <duffman25> & everything was ok
[04:13] <duffman25> but today i've reinstalled breezy
[04:14] <duffman25> & the patch isn't loaded
[04:14] <duffman25> well.. it's not exactly a patch
[04:14] <Seveas> you might simply have been bitten by the udev bug
[04:14] <Answer> duffman:  my battery meter on the laptop didn't work, but I just did some easy modprobe thing and then it worked
[04:14] <duffman25> I've reinstalled today from preview
[04:14] <Seveas> dist-upgrade to the very latest packages
[04:14] <shtron> how do I set the system to probe the 8139cp module instead of 8139too?
[04:14] <duffman25> & upgraded today to the lastest packages
[04:14] <Seveas> ah ok
[04:15] <duffman25> my reason for this reinstallation was that udev thing
[04:15] <Seveas> shtron, blacklist 8139too and add 8139cp to /etc/modules
[04:15] <duffman25> which completely messed my box
[04:15] <deFrysk> duffman25, startudev en a restart of gdm would have solved the prob
[04:15] <duffman25> Answer: can you explain what exactly did you do?
[04:15] <NoX_Hand> hey bob2!
[04:15] <NoX_Hand> u allways here?
[04:16] <shtron> seveas, what's blacklist?
[04:16] <Answer> duffman25:  I dont remember exactly, somebody on here told me two simple commands.  The second was modprobe something and it fixed it after awhile
[04:16] <Seveas> shtron, /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[04:16] <shtron> seveas, oh.. thanks.
[04:17] <duffman25> I've filed a bug....
[04:18] <duffman25> let's hope a dev can help me
[04:18] <Answer> look into modprobe, it fixed my problem
[04:19] <duffman25> i'll have a look
[04:19] <jeffisageek> ok i am back...what was that place i need to go to get opera?
[04:19] <NoX_Hand> hi! cant remember the code for changing to admin?
[04:19] <NoX_Hand> someone please tell if they know
[04:20] <NoX_Hand> cannot install coldfusion without it.
[04:20] <NoX_Hand> http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?platform=linux
[04:20] <NoX_Hand> jeffisageek thats the link
[04:20] <mattbrown> No1Viking: sudo -s -H
[04:21] <jeffisageek> no i was talking to someone and they had a repository
[04:21] <NoX_Hand> oh right
[04:21] <NoX_Hand> anyone know a repository  for coldfusion?
[04:22] <apokryphos> jeffisageek: I don't think there is one; Ubuntu guys provide you with debs though, so no real difference
[04:23] <apokryphos> jeffisageek: though the one they provide doesn't work for breezy (needs tinkering)
[04:23] <ColonelKernel> anyone tried a vanilla 2.6.13+ kernel on breezy preview release?
[04:24] <jeffisageek> cant find it with the ones provided
[04:24] <jeffisageek> hey how do i change my password on freenode? for my nick?
[04:25] <apokryphos> jeffisageek: there's a link up there
[04:25] <er4z0r> jeffisageek: /msg nickserv help
[04:25] <apokryphos> jeffisageek: I told you earlier :P
[04:25] <jeffisageek> thanks
[04:25] <jeffisageek> i know..slow learner :)
[04:25] <trask> is there an easy guide page to install a gcc compiler in ubuntu?
[04:26] <ColonelKernel> trask, apt-get install build-essential?
[04:26] <er4z0r> a propos slow: anybody a good tip on how to make webmin faster (except from throwing that crap away)?
[04:26] <cef> I'm getting a lot of "cannot set locale modifiers" and similar messages (Gtk-WARNING's) when I'm installing packages using either synaptic or the update-manager
[04:26] <trask> ColonelKernel: tnx
[04:26] <NoX_Hand> back
[04:26] <NoX_Hand> oh well note to do bout it
[04:27] <Airk> Hi, i have problems with my "~" key. I have to press "~" followed by the space key to print the "~" character
[04:27] <housetier> cef you could try to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow locales" and select a few locales then set a default locale, upon next login these should be fine
[04:27] <NoX_Hand> where can i get couldfusion on a deb file?
[04:27] <jeffisageek> ok im all good now on the password :)
[04:27] <NoX_Hand> i have  only found .bin and that wont work..
[04:27] <Seveas> Airk, change your keyboard layout to not use dead keys..
[04:28] <AngryParsley> haha, the volume keys on my apple keyboard actually work
[04:28] <jeffisageek> so anyways i was told the version of opera is not good that is on the website...so where do I need to go so I can get one that will work for me?
[04:28] <dealt> hi
[04:28] <cef> housetier: done. thanks. Hopefully it'll fix it
[04:29] <AngryParsley> little things like that make me like this distro even more
[04:29] <Seveas> jeffisageek, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl
[04:29] <Airk> Seveas, thank you
[04:29] <Ankka> ubuntu kills my network: when I try to connect to it via ubuntu, it freezes the whole thing, but on the same machine win98 works fine
[04:30] <Ankka> any ideas on what might cause this?
[04:30] <dealt> hi
[04:31] <dealt> im quite confused with the JavaPackageBuilNewVersion instructions
[04:31] <Ankka> AngryParsley: you installed ubuntu on a mac? why?
[04:31] <AngryParsley> Ankka: no, I just have an apple keyboard hooked up to my crappy 1.5Ghz pentium
[04:31] <Ankka> oh
[04:31] <apokryphos> dealt: you can get debs for java; no need to use that, really.
[04:31] <AngryParsley> I like the lighter key stroke
[04:31] <selinium> Hi guys, i take it apache/mysql/php are all fine in Breezy
[04:31] <apokryphos> !tell dealt about sunjava
[04:32] <Seveas> selinium, they are
[04:32] <Xappe> why not ubuntu on a mac Ankka? I'm running ubuntu only on my ibook g3
[04:32] <AngryParsley> and those crazy f13-f16 keys
[04:32] <AngryParsley> I don't even know what they're for
[04:32] <NoX_Hand> where can i get couldfusion on a deb file?
[04:32] <NoX_Hand> i have  only found .bin and that wont work..
[04:32] <AngryParsley> Xappe: because OSX is so much nicer?
[04:32] <cef> another one for people: I keep getting '"Show Desktop" has closed unexpectedly.' on first login after startup. that, Trash and the Desktop Switcher all do the same thing.
[04:32] <Ankka> Xappe:  because Mac OS X is so nice?
[04:32] <AngryParsley> I mean if I could afford an ibook I'd buy one
[04:32] <selinium> Seveas, Cool, what the big deal about Opera the last couple of days?
[04:32] <dealt> apokryphos: i'll check it out thanks
[04:32] <Seveas> selinium, it's free now so suddenly everyone wants it
[04:32] <Xappe> ...and OSX is so much more expensive ;)
[04:32] <cef> reloading them fixes it till the next time I restart
[04:32] <trask> mac osx is almost as nice as linux :)
[04:33] <Seveas> free opera still sucks though...
[04:33] <AngryParsley> Seveas: I switched to opera because it loads so much faster than firefox
[04:33] <Ankka> Xappe: of course, a g3 is different... didn't think of that
[04:33] <apokryphos> Opera rocks my socks; it's great :P
[04:33] <deFrysk> Seveas, open opera would be nice :)
[04:33] <trask> i like my slackware a lot, but also uses my mac a bit from time to time
[04:33] <AngryParsley> it takes like .5 seconds to open opera
[04:33] <selinium> Seveas, Thanks for clearing that up!
[04:33] <AngryParsley> firefox takes like 3 seconds before it's ready to use
[04:33] <trask> opera browser is just as good as mozilla
[04:34] <Seveas> AngryParsley, yeah, but its CSS support is actually worse than IE
[04:34] <Ankka> ubuntu kills my network: when I try to connect to it via ubuntu, it freezes the whole thing, but on the same machine win98 works fine
[04:34] <Ankka> any ideas why?
[04:34] <Xappe> Ankka: yep, it had some old version of osx that was tearing my head apart
[04:34] <selinium> There are quite a few simple changes to be made in Firefox about:config to speed it up.
[04:34] <trask> new opera takes 3 secs as well
[04:34] <deFrysk> opera renders pages in the funniest way sometimes
[04:34] <Answer> If you want it to load faster, buy better hardware.
[04:34] <AngryParsley> Seveas: zuh? I haven't had any problems with pages
[04:34] <Ankka> Xappe: well, do as you like. so far OS X just has been the best OS I've used. :)
[04:34] <trask> u cant use opera alone tho.. need a mozilla to feel happy as well..
[04:35] <alan> Hi, could anyone help me with an XFree86 config problem?
[04:35] <Answer> mozilla composer justifies mozilla by itself.
[04:35] <dealt> apokryphos: it worked, thanks!
[04:35] <apokryphos> Seveas: no-one's css support could be worse than IE's
[04:35] <apokryphos> dealt: cool
[04:35] <deFrysk> alan, xorg.conf you mean ?
[04:35] <AngryParsley> Answer: yeah, I'll pay hundreds of dollars for a faster system instead of using a free browser
[04:35] <alan> yeah I guess
[04:35] <alan> Can I explain the problem
[04:35] <Xappe> Ankka: of course I will :) I'm running ubuntu only on my computers, very handy if I may say so...
[04:35] <cef> actually if you want firefox to load faster, compile it statically. that's the real big difference between opera and firefox's speed on load. no dynamic shared object loading overhead
[04:35] <Answer> AngryParsley: I like to throw hardware and money at problems.
[04:35] <ing10> gggg
[04:36] <Seveas> ing10, your g is stuck...
[04:36] <deFrysk> alan, its needed to resolve your prob yes
[04:36] <Seveas> cef, I'd rather have that little bit of overhead than static compiled libraries...
[04:36] <cef> Seveas: me too
[04:36] <alan> I have been looking at the forums
[04:36] <AngryParsley> cef: why spend so much time compiling crap (static, wtf?) and adding extensions when you can just download opera?
[04:37] <deFrysk> !tell alan about ask
[04:37] <cef> AngryParsley: opera is compiled statically
[04:37] <Seveas> AngryParsley, because opera sucks ;) -- but let's stop this discussion here, it's way off-topic
[04:37] <Sumire> RO Server: irc.yuki.deltaanime.net #SolaceRO
[04:37] <Sumire> RO Server: irc.yuki.deltaanime.net #SolaceRO
[04:37] <deFrysk> alan, read what ubotu send you
[04:37] <AngryParsley> heh
[04:37] <cef> AngryParsley: which is why when any of the libs that are compiled statically into opera get a security vulnerability, you need to download a whole new version of opera
[04:38] <alan> thanks - complete newb to this
[04:38] <cef> AngryParsley: and a perfect example of this happens regularly: zlib
[04:38] <Ankka> ubuntu kills my network: when I try to connect to it via ubuntu, it freezes the whole thing, but on the same machine win98 works fine... any way to get ubuntu to find the ethernet card properly?
[04:38] <deFrysk> so alen ask the question clearly and someone will respond as soon as he can
[04:39] <deFrysk> alan, that is
[04:39] <AngryParsley> cef: umm... I'd have to recompile firefox every time a vulnerability was found
[04:40] <AngryParsley> that is, if I compiled it statically to improve performance
[04:40] <cef> AngryParsley: exactly. or download it from somewhere compiled statically for you. welcome to opera
[04:40] <alan> I am trying to change the resolution in the XF86Config-4 but cannot find the file to edit it
[04:40] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. odd - using the network config tool under gnome to set my dns server.. and its not saving it when i reboot..  anyone recall what /etc/ file this is saved in?
[04:41] <AngryParsley> cef: yes, but opera loads faster and is easier to install, so why would I use firefox?
[04:41] <Dr_willis> alan,  may be you need to edit xorg.conf
[04:41] <alan> I will try and get back to you thanks!
[04:41] <shtron> I blacklisted 8139cp and added 8139too to /etc/modules. but 8139cp still loads on boot and I still get error messege about it...
[04:41] <Dr_willis> reasons I use firefox - the extensions  you can install.
[04:41] <trask> firefox is nice, i use both for diff stuff
[04:41] <thoreauputic> AngryParsley: cef #ubuntu-offtopic  ?
[04:41] <Tomcat_> shtron: In /etc/modules? Afaik you need to blacklist it in the hotplug config
[04:41] <BlueEagle> cef: You can download opera source and compile it against the libs you've already got.
[04:42] <AngryParsley> thoreauputic: yeah, or #ubuntu-potentialflamewar
[04:42] <AngryParsley> meh, I'm going to grab some lunch
[04:42] <AngryParsley> bbl
[04:42] <deFrysk> alan, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , use the defaults untill you get to the resolutions , and set them up as you would like them , make sure to back up the old xorg.conf
[04:42] <BlueEagle> cef: no you can't forget that I even wrote that. :)
[04:42] <cef> thoreauputic: nah.. I'm leaving it here.. if he can't understand the issue, then who gives a rats?
[04:42] <thoreauputic> AngryParsley: heh - #ubuntu-offtopic is pretty relaxed most of the time :)
[04:42] <shtron> I blacklisted 8139cp. I added 8139too to /etc/modules.
[04:42] <Tomcat_> shtron: I'm not sure how exactly you blacklist something in /etc/modules, but there's a file and directory /etc/hotplug/blacklist*
[04:42] <Tomcat_> shtron: Yes but how did you blacklist it?
[04:42] <Ankka> ubuntu kills my network: when I try to connect to it via ubuntu, it freezes the whole thing, but on the same machine win98 works fine... I know I'm repeating this.
[04:43] <alan> Thanks again but cannot I just use pico to edit?
[04:43] <shtron> i added 8139cp at the buttom of /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[04:43] <deFrysk> alan, yes
[04:43] <shtron> then i added 8139too at the buttom of /etc/modules
[04:43] <alan> OK will try with that for now as I am more comfortable with it
[04:44] <deFrysk> alan, sudo pico -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:44] <deFrysk> and edit as you please
[04:44] <cef> BlueEagle: I know you can. anyway.. topic is dead.. blah
[04:44] <alan> cheers
[04:44] <deFrysk> alan, again make backup of the xorg.conf you have now
[04:45] <Ankka> how do I configure an ethernet card?
[04:45] <kemik> Ankka:  depends what you mean by that...
[04:45] <kemik> usually you would use ifconfig or some gui-application
[04:45] <kemik> if you wanna set ip/bring the iface up/down etc
[04:46] <cef> Breezy question: anyone know why "Show Desktop", "Desktop Switcher" and the "Trash Applet" all die on startup when I log in?
[04:46] <Ankka> kemik: well, ubuntu kills my network: when I try to connect to it via ubuntu, it freezes the whole thing, but on the same machine win98 works fine...
[04:46] <BlueEagle> cef: However that is a problem you will face in linux for some while as the ilbs are changing quite often and compiling new versions of them against every possible combination of libs is more tedious (and people would get more confused as to which version they need) than compiling them statically.
[04:46] <Ankka> and I was wondering where the problem is
[04:46] <kemik> behind the keyboard
[04:46] <kemik> ;)
[04:46] <Ankka> propably ;)
[04:46] <Ankka> since I'm pretty new to this
[04:46] <cef> ahh.. Workplace Switcher even
[04:46] <alan> This is strange as the xorg.conf has the resolution I want 1280X786 but is not selectable in the monitor resolutions
[04:47] <skrewdriver> cef: are you running breezy? i had same problem, was cured with an update
[04:47] <BlueEagle> but by the by, I'm off to work. You all have a good one. :)
[04:47] <cef> skrewdriver: yes.. and I'm up to date
[04:47] <cef> cya BlueEagle
[04:47] <Seveas> cef, let them die, don't reload them and add them later
[04:47] <Seveas> somehow that fixes it :)
[04:48] <cef> Seveas: ahh ok.
[04:48] <cef> bbk
[04:48] <skrewdriver>  bugger. sorry, can't help you then!
[04:48] <deFrysk> alan, did the xorg.conf fille have a recognised monitor added ?
[04:48] <Xappe> alan, if you know your monitors refresh rates, try to add them if they're not there already
[04:48] <kemik> Ankka:  not sure what you mean "kills the network" however
[04:48] <dealt> hi!
[04:48] <deFrysk> alan, if not do what Xappe said
[04:48] <alan> Thanks I can get them off the web
[04:48] <alan> and will try that now
[04:49] <dealt> why do i always have a problem with my locale?: Gdk-Warning : locale not supported by C library
[04:49] <kemik> ah.. foodtime
[04:49] <Ankka> kemik: well, when I launch firefox or try apt-get, the whole network gets jammed and I need to restart the router
[04:49] <deFrysk> dealt, during upgrade ?
[04:49] <Ankka> kemik: I mean restart the router to connect to the internet
[04:50] <Xappe> alan, HorizSync and VertRefresh
[04:50] <Xappe> alan, under the Section "monitor"
[04:52] <jeffisageek> im trying to connect my card reader which is usb...i see it but when i try to access it i get this message "Unable to mount the selected volume. The volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted."
[04:52] <jeffisageek> it worked ok with fedora
[04:52] <gangadhar> hello
[04:52] <gangadhar> I am new to Ubuntu
[04:52] <Dr_willis> jeffisageek,  how are you mounting it?
[04:52] <jeffisageek> welcome me too
[04:52] <jeffisageek> i just have it plugged in
[04:53] <gangadhar> I loaded it
[04:53] <gangadhar> and became fan of it
[04:53] <deFrysk> !tell gangadhar about ask
[04:53] <jeffisageek> and it shows up when i go to computer
[04:53] <jeffisageek> but cannot access it
[04:53] <Dr_willis> check the out put of 'dmesg' , is this a multi-slot reader?
[04:53] <cef> Seveas: so how do I reload them? just add them back on the bars?
[04:54] <Ankka> why doesn't ubuntu work with my router or adsl modem? it does know the ethernet card, and the router IP, but doesn't connect to anywhere outside the computer
[04:54] <jeffisageek> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[04:54] <jeffisageek>        missing codepage or other error
[04:54] <jeffisageek>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[04:54] <jeffisageek>        dmesg | tail  or so
[04:54] <Seveas> jeffisageek, NEVER paste in here
[04:54] <carlos_> Hi! I need a little help to install a sound card?
[04:54] <Seveas> cef, yeah
[04:54] <jeffisageek> oh ok
[04:54] <jeffisageek> :)
[04:54] <alan> many thanks guys, I added the refresh rates etc and now will log off to restart the X11 session
[04:54] <alan> Many thanks for the help
[04:54] <jeffisageek> Seveas, sorry about that
[04:55] <cef> Seveas: cool
[04:55] <deFrysk> !tell carlos  about ask
[04:55] <Seveas> !opera8.5
[04:55] <ubotu> opera8.5 is, like, broken in breezy, if you want to install it, there is a patched .deb available at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/breezy-extras/opera_8.50-20050916.5-shared-qt_en_breezy_patch_i386.deb
[04:55] <skrewdriver> 'round guys
[04:56] <Dr_willis> jeffisageek,  some multislot ones - may be sda1 sdb1 sdc1, and so forth. depending in which slot  you put the card in.
[04:56] <Seveas> !no opera8.5 is <reply> If you want to use opera 8.5 on Ubuntu Breezy, use the Debian/Etch version from opera.com
[04:56] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[04:56] <Dr_willis> of course it could be gnomes auto-mounting stuff being a little brain dead
[04:56] <Ankka> so I have my ethernet card configured, but ubuntu still doesn't connect to the internet
[04:56] <dealt> is it ok to run make and make install for the second time? will it override my existing installation?
[04:56] <Ankka> it doesn't even ping the router
[04:56] <Seveas> dealt, yes it will
[04:57] <Seveas> and probably you only need to re-run make install unless you changed the source
[04:57] <Xappe> Ankka: firewall?
[04:57] <LinuxJones> Afternoon everybody !
[04:57] <jeffisageek> hmmm
[04:57] <jeffisageek> wish it would work :) i like to copy my podcasts onto my card
[04:57] <Ankka> Xappe: what do you mean?
[04:58] <thoreauputic> Seveas: any idea what compiling a window manager with --enable-imlib would do? Advantages?
[04:58] <Ankka> Xappe: haven't tried anything with a firewall
[04:58] <jeffisageek> is there anyway to manually mount the reader?
[04:58] <Xappe> Ankka: ok, good :)
[04:58] <Seveas> thoreauputic, it would cost time
[04:59] <jeffisageek> im looking at the card reader in the device manager
[04:59] <thoreauputic> Seveas: erm - execution time or do you just mean "compiling costs time" ?
[04:59] <shtron> after installing breezy, some applications like gcalctool and gnobots2 takes a *really* long time to start - about 3 minutes (wmmon not showing any cpu activity at the time, as if the activation is just delayed...)
[04:59] <duffman25> anyone knows why the dev's have removed the gksudo effect that turned black the background? I don't know how to explain it sorry
[04:59] <Seveas> thoreauputic, compiling time :)
[04:59] <Ankka> Xappe: I have only installed ubuntu and now I'm having troubles with the ethernet card, which ubuntu apparently claims to know, but still refuses to connect to the web
[04:59] <Xappe> Ankka: just checking. and you're sure you've confed ubuntu according to the router's settings?
[05:00] <Seveas> duffman25, because it really sucked cpu-usage wise
[05:00] <ColonelKernel> anyone tried a vanilla 2.6.13+ kernel on breezy preview release?
[05:00] <thoreauputic> Seveas: reason: I built fluxbox from svn and left out the imlib option - would adding it add any useful features?
[05:00] <Dickfart> is there a list of wifi cards that ubuntu supports?
[05:00] <Ankka> Xappe: I think I have, it's using dhcp
[05:00] <Xappe> Ankka: ok
[05:00] <Ankka> and it knows the router IP, I think
[05:00] <duffman25> Seveas:  but there's a similar effect in xscreensaver
[05:00] <Seveas> the effect was very cool though and it will get readded again
[05:00] <gangadhar> I want use Ubuntu as the proxy server and also do some bandwidth management  is there any good tool for this?
[05:00] <Seveas> duffman25, that's a completely different technology, unusable for the gksudo effect
[05:01] <thoreauputic> Seveas: it was worth compiling  it because he hoary version has issues
[05:01] <jeffisageek> do you think it would be best if I re-installed ubuntu with it plugged in? do you think it would read the drive ok then?
[05:01] <duffman25> Seveas: it will be readed in breezy?
[05:01] <Seveas> duffman25, no, maybe in dapper
[05:01] <rama> I have PHP 5.0 on Apache 2 installed and want to get mysql support in PHP. Is this the correct place to ask?
[05:01] <Seveas> gangadhar, wondershaper and squid
[05:01] <mad_pheonix> I've just installed ubuntu and gcc, but i don't seem to have any of the c libs (not even stdlib).  Is there a special package i have to install for the gcc c libs?
[05:01] <Seveas> rama, install the php5-mysql package
[05:01] <Seveas> mad_pheonix, install build-essential
[05:02] <mad_pheonix> Seveas: thanks
[05:02] <gangadhar> are they gui based ? I am not good at text
[05:02] <Seveas> gangadhar, no it's not
[05:03] <thinman> can i add more memory to swap file partition? and how ? please help
[05:03] <duffman25> Seveas:  thanxs
[05:03] <ompaul> thoreauputic, got two acres of free space? there will be a slight space overhead in compiling xorg :)
[05:03] <Seveas> thinman, repeat that in english please...
[05:03] <gangadhar> Seveas I have tried Squid but it is not allowing the outlook on win client machines to receive and send mail
[05:03] <jeffisageek> so can i mount my card reader manually since the auto did not seem to like it?
[05:03] <Ankka> is there a channl for people new to linux?
[05:03] <mjr> thinman, you can (sometimes) change partition size with gparted, but you can also add new swap files or partitions
[05:03] <ompaul> Seveas, he is asking how to increase the size of 'swap'
[05:03] <thinman> can i add more memory to swap file partition? and how ? please help
[05:03] <Seveas> gangadhar, then you need to configure it properly...
[05:04] <thoreauputic> ompaul: I don't need to compile xorg - I just need to add the --enable-imlib option as far as I know...
[05:04] <Seveas> ompaul, hmm, I don't read that in his gibberish..
[05:04] <ompaul> thoreauputic, ahh
[05:04] <ColonelKernel> maybe qtparted would help rezise partitions? or is that only for ntfs
[05:04] <shtron> after installing breezy, some applications like gcalctool and gnobots2 takes a *really* long time to start - about 3 minutes (wmmon not showing any cpu activity at the time, as if the activation is just delayed...). anyone knows why?
[05:04] <thinman> does gparted bundle into with knoppix 3.9 ?
[05:04] <Seveas> thinman, this isn't #knoppix
[05:04] <ColonelKernel> thinman, qtparted is
[05:05] <gangadhar> sevaes I am completely new to that how best I can do it ?
[05:05] <thinman> Seveas :)
[05:05] <Seveas> gangadhar, probably the best is to read the manual, squid can be complicated
[05:06] <gangadhar> seveas do you say wondershaper is easy ?
[05:06] <Seveas> ColonelKernel, nope, I don't like the attitude in there...
[05:06] <rama> Seveas, its php5.0-mysql. thnx ... Is it advisable to choose mysql 4.1 over mysql 4.0 for a production web site?
[05:06] <Ankka> I need some help: I can't get ubuntu connected to the internet
[05:06] <ompaul> ColonelKernel, it is the case that here is very busy with 447 here atm
[05:06] <ompaul> Ankka, what kind of connection do you want to use?
[05:06] <Seveas> gangadhar, running it is easy, figuring out optimal parameters takes reading the manual (has a good explanation on it) and some experimenting
[05:07] <ColonelKernel> ompaul, I didnt understand what that meant at all, im sorry
[05:07] <Ankka> ompaul: ethernet
[05:08] <ompaul> ColonelKernel, ignoring other distros here because there is as you can see a lot of ubuntu queries :)
[05:08] <jeffisageek> anyone recommend a good media player for playing mpeg's?
[05:08] <Seveas> (Yes, I am banning complete providers -- so be it)
[05:08] <ompaul> Ankka, click on system administration networking and you should be able to do it from there
[05:08] <Seveas> jeffisageek, mplayeer, vlc, totem...
[05:08] <trask> jeffisageek: id say mplaer
[05:08] <gangadhar> any Bandwidth or Proxy management tools GUI based ? I dont mind buying ?
[05:08] <ColonelKernel> ompaul, gotcha - no biggie, I am somewhat familiar with knoppix and didnt mind helping
[05:09] <ompaul> ColonelKernel, pm?
[05:09] <ColonelKernel> ompaul, sure
[05:09] <Ankka> ompaul: the problem is that ubuntu claims it has the ethernet card configured and connected, yet when I try to even ping the router I have it doesn't get ponged back
[05:10] <dealt> hi!
[05:10] <jeffisageek> cant seem to find that one using synaptic..anyone know a repostory with it?
[05:10] <dealt> how do i set my 'locale'
[05:10] <Seveas> export LOCALE=whatever_you_want
[05:10] <Seveas> for a peremanent setting: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[05:11] <dealt> thanks Seveas
[05:11] <ompaul> Ankka, there is no machine between you and the firewall?
[05:11] <zwnj> synaptic doesn't apply *Complete Remove* on dependent packages.  i think it's a bug, isn't it?
[05:11] <Ankka> ompaul: nope, only an ethernet cable
[05:11] <Seveas> zwnj, that would be a bug, but afaik it does
[05:11] <ompaul> Ankka, is there another machine on the network?
[05:11] <Seveas> how did you notice it doesn't?
[05:11] <Ankka> ompaul: yes, this iBook I'm using now
[05:12] <jeffisageek> how would i get mplayer?
[05:12] <dealt> Seveas: it's just im always having problem with my default locale (during compilation)
[05:12] <Ankka> ompaul: and when I try to connect somewhere with ubuntu, even this machine's net connection freezes
[05:12] <Seveas> jeffisageek, it's in multiverse
[05:13] <ompaul> Ankka, I suggest that the router is not configured to give more than one IP seems like that
[05:13] <zwnj> Seveas: i've tested it many times, but in the summery window (before the operations) it lists  dependent packages as *Remove*, not *Complete Remove*
[05:13] <ompaul> Ankka, turn off the ibook - and reboot ubuntu see if gets network
[05:13] <Ankka> ompaul: hmm, thanks for the tip
[05:13] <Ankka> I'll try
[05:13] <ompaul> Ankka, unless you are comfortable with terminals
[05:13] <zwnj> Seveas: btw, where's the bugzilla for synaptic?
[05:13] <er4z0r> Question: svn and tomcat are users needed to run my tomcat and my Subversion-Server how do I prevent people from logging in with these accounts?
[05:13] <ColonelKernel> brb
[05:13] <Ankka> ompaul: well, not comfortable - yet
[05:14] <Ankka> why would that affect?
[05:14] <Seveas> zwnj, that would be bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[05:14] <rama> Seveas, my  hoary install's apt sources list has no entry for multiverse. What does this mean?
[05:14] <Seveas> rama, it means you can add it.
[05:14] <zwnj> Seveas: danke :)
[05:15] <pc22> do samba server need a static ipaddress?
[05:15] <jeffisageek> Seveas, thanks i found it :)
[05:15] <Seveas> pc22, it helps...
[05:15] <elad`> Seveas, what were those links you gave me for the ATI drivers?
[05:15] <elad`> !atiu
[05:15] <ubotu> Wish i knew, elad`
[05:15] <dealt> Seveas,: do i need to restart after changing default locale?
[05:15] <elad`> !ati
[05:15] <ubotu> hmm... ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[05:15] <rama> Seveas, I remember it being an entry to uncomment in theprevious version of Ubuntu. Any docs out there relating to multiverse entry having to be manually entered?
[05:15] <Seveas> dealt, you need to logout and log back in
[05:15] <Seveas> rama, that was universe :)
[05:16] <Seveas> !tell rama about sources
[05:16] <dealt> Seveas: thanks
[05:16] <ompaul> Ankka, if the router is only putting up one internal ip for use then you would typically see what you are seeing, if that is thae case it is a matter of logging into the router and allowing it to give out more ips
[05:17] <rama> Seveas, apologies for the confusion. You are right it was universe I was referring to... btw nothing came out of your command to '!tell'
[05:17] <ompaul> ColonelKernel, you got it
[05:17] <Seveas> radiodog, ubotu should have sent you something in a private message
[05:17] <ompaul> ColonelKernel, and he was gone
[05:17] <ColonelKernel> :(
[05:17] <pc22> Seveas, in a network, do i need a samba server in evry pc?
[05:18] <ColonelKernel> pc22, youneed one on every machine you want to share files via SMB with
[05:19] <shtron> I found a bug report about one of my problems and it's status is resolved (last modified 20/9), but I see no solution and I still have the problem. what do I do?
[05:19] <gangadhar> Seveas how do I allow the smtp port for the email access by outlook clients?
[05:20] <Seveas> gangadhar, my experience with squid is very limited, that's why I advised to read the documentation
[05:20] <gangadhar> ok
[05:21] <thinman> when i try to run for 'apt-get install gparted' it askes for dependencies. How do i specify that all dependencies will be installed as well?  thanks
[05:21] <Seveas> apt-get does that for you
[05:22] <thinman> but which option ?
[05:22] <Seveas> none
[05:22] <Seveas> it does that always
[05:22] <Ankka> ompaul: nope, that was not the case
[05:22] <Seveas> if it doesn't something is wrong and you should paste the output on hte pastebin
[05:22] <Ankka> ompaul: and I remembered just that win98 works fine with the router
[05:23] <Ankka> on the same machine
[05:23] <ompaul> Ankka, at the same time as the mac?
[05:23] <adjacent> where does firefox log to? i keep crashing and i think its because of a plugin loading improperly
[05:23] <eliphas_> hello
[05:23] <Ankka> ompaul: yes
[05:23] <Seveas> adjacent, firefox doesn't keep logs
[05:24] <adjacent> Seveas: can i turn logging on? it must keep some record...
[05:24] <Seveas> adjacent, run firefox from the terminal, it can give usful output there
[05:24] <ompaul> Ankka, let us first check the cable plug it into the mac - it should just work
[05:24] <adjacent> Seveas: k. trying
[05:26] <war-totem> can someone tell me what editor mutt *should* be using to send an email?
[05:26] <Seveas> vim of course
[05:27] <war-totem> Seveas, it automatically opens into nano
[05:27] <gnix_oag> dhcp3 can't option option-155 "-i"
[05:27] <ompaul> war-totem, you can make it nano if yuu want
[05:27] <meuserj|work> Seveas, you ever going to un-ban ALL tor users?
[05:27] <war-totem> ompaul, ok then, how do i actually send the email under nano
[05:27] <gnix_oag> dhcp3 can't option option-155 "-i"
[05:27] <Seveas> war-totem, sudo update-alternatives --config editor
[05:27] <pc22> ColonelKernel, can i pm you? just some questions.
[05:27] <Seveas> meuserj|work, no
[05:27] <Ankka> ompaul: yes the cable is working
[05:27] <ompaul> war-totem, fire up mutt
[05:27] <Seveas> too much abuse from tor
[05:28] <meuserj|work> Seveas, http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#tor
[05:28] <leagris> Ankka, you can test if the ethernet is up with mii-tool
[05:28] <war-totem> ompaul, its up
[05:28] <Ankka> mii?
[05:28] <Ankka> leagris: what's the command for that?
[05:28] <Ankka> just mii?
[05:28] <ompaul> war-totem, hit the letter m put in the address you want to send to and start typing save exit and hit y
[05:28] <leagris> udo mii-tool eth0
[05:28] <leagris> eth0: negotiated 100baseTx-FD, link ok
[05:29] <Ankka> ok thanks
[05:29] <bina> anyone know if iPAQs or the Dell PDAs (i forget what they are called) are compatible or have drivers for linux?
[05:29] <Seveas> meuserj|work as i said: too much abuse, so not possible to turn off the ban.
[05:29] <leagris> provided by the net-tool package
[05:29] <slept> has anyone left an invitation for gmail, I would love to have one
[05:29] <Seveas> slept, sure
[05:30] <Seveas> but it's off-topic in here, so PM me
[05:30] <Ankka> eth0: 19Mbit, half duplex, link ok
[05:30] <war-totem> ompaul, ive done that, it simply saves it then nothing
[05:30] <Ankka> leagris: that's what it gives
[05:30] <leagris> 19Mbit, what kind of link it is ?
[05:30] <azathoth> howdy folks, i've got no web connection at home, but when it comes time to upgrade my distro, can i just pop in a newer iso of ubuntu and automatically sort thigns out?
[05:30] <ompaul> war-totem, hmm let me go to where I use mutt :)
[05:30] <Ankka> leagris: oops, typo: 10 Mbit
[05:30] <pc22> slept, u want?
[05:30] <pc22> i can give u
[05:31] <Seveas> pc22, read what I wrote...
[05:31] <war-totem> ompaul, tahanks
[05:31] <leagris> is it a direct link or do you use a hub or a switch ?
[05:31] <pc22> ok
[05:31] <pc22> Seveas, can i pm u?
[05:31] <Ankka> leagris: to the internet? there's a router and a adsl modem between the telephone socket and the ethernet card, and a fe wcables, nothing else that I  know of
[05:31] <Seveas> pc22, sure
[05:32] <Seveas> arg
[05:32] <Seveas> what did i do?
[05:32] <Seveas> stupid point-clicky menus :)
[05:32] <leagris> Th'at strange the ethernet router up with a simplex 10MB link
[05:32] <leagris> Ankka, it usualy is 100Mb full duplex
[05:32] <foodcoman> Everyone see this?
[05:33] <foodcoman> http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=02909#0
[05:33] <Ankka> leagris: this machine is 6 years old ;)
[05:33] <ElNooboStupido> Ankka, so you just plug a different devices into the dsl modem without restarting the modem?
[05:33] <leagris> can you tell what the mac has on its link status
[05:33] <leagris> ok Ankka
[05:33] <ElNooboStupido> and youre not getting ip addresses for the different devices?
[05:33] <Ankka> ElNooboStupido: no, the router, the modem only has one slot
[05:33] <leagris> makes sure the port at the router part can autosens 10Mb/100Mb and simples/duplex
[05:33] <leopard> dbzdeath: Well I managed to get the iRiver H10 working completely (it wouldn't index music), but it's a heck of a hack, definately not something I would want to instruct a complete newbie on how to do.
[05:33] <ElNooboStupido> Ankka, what kind of router?
[05:33] <leopard> dbzdeath: I started a howto for it.
[05:34] <dbzdeath> leopard: really? cool :) should post it to the wiki when done
[05:34] <Ankka> leagris: yes, it shows 10Mbit as a different color led
[05:34] <Ankka> leagris: and win98 on the same machine works fine
[05:35] <Ankka> ElNooboStupido: I am getting IP addresses, and the router is some blackbox basic router firewall thingy
[05:35] <hmrocha> hello
[05:35] <hmrocha> can i use a breezy package in hoary?
[05:35] <leagris> Ankka, what the outbput of sudo dhclient3 eth0
[05:36] <hmrocha> i need "praat" but it's not available in hoary
[05:36] <elad`> How do I change my refresh rate?
[05:36] <selinium> elad`, system/prefs/screen res
[05:37] <Ankka> leagris: Internet systems consortium DHCP client v3.0.1
[05:37] <Ankka> and then
[05:37] <Ankka> sit0: unknown hardware address tyoe776
[05:37] <Ankka> sit0: unknown hardware address tyoe776
[05:37] <elad`> selinium, I can't access that ever since I installed fglrx, and I don't think it was possible to change it there before anyway.
[05:37] <war-totem> Seveas, i got it, thanks for your help
[05:38] <Seveas> hmrocha, it is generaly a bad idea to do that
[05:38] <Ankka> and then some stuff it's listening on LPF..
[05:38] <Seveas> upgrade to breezy, it rocks ;)
[05:38] <Ankka> and sending
[05:39] <hmrocha> Seveas, i'll have to compile from source right?
[05:39] <elad`> I have an Intelli Mouse Explorer, five buttons. How do I configure what the two extra ones do?
[05:39] <Antioch> how can I get to a terminal before logging into gnome?
[05:39] <Seveas> hmrocha, that or upgrade to breezy :)
[05:39] <leagris> the ethernet link appear as simplex
[05:39] <Seveas> Antioch, <ctrl><alt><f1> in the login screen
 brings you back
[05:40] <Ankka> leagris:  what are you talking about?
[05:40] <leagris> that's strange from an internet route
[05:40] <Seveas> elad`, edit xorg.conf
[05:40] <Shufla> hello :)
[05:40] <elad`> To say what?
[05:40] <hmrocha> Seveas, i can't upgrade to breezy yet
[05:40] <Antioch> haha, Im using vmware, which has ctrl+alt mapped as escape.. lol
[05:40] <eliphas_> why not ?
[05:40] <Seveas> hmrocha, too bad :)
[05:40] <leagris> Ankka, half duplex
[05:40] <hmrocha> Seveas, it not "stable" yet and i'm using hoary in a production environment
[05:41] <eliphas_> ok
[05:41] <Seveas> Antioch, hehe :)
[05:41] <leagris> most routers have full duplex even for 10Mb
[05:41] <Seveas> hmrocha, ack
[05:41] <phanter> does anybdy knows how to work with libgmailn.py? it is a client to access gmail as an ftp server (or something)
[05:41] <Seveas> phanter, as the name suggests it's a library
[05:41] <ElNooboStupido> has anyone tried a 2.6.13+ kernel on the breezy preview ?
[05:41] <Ankka> leagris: how do you know it's simplex?
[05:41] <ElNooboStupido> vanilla kernel
[05:41] <hmrocha> Seveas, i use breezy at home, but i'm installing "praat" in my faculty
[05:41] <Seveas> either find a program that uses it or write one
[05:41] <phanter> Seveas, oke. what do i do with it?
[05:41] <elad`> Antioch, you can change VMware's preferences to have alt-ctrl-shift thingie, but you'll need to restart it.
[05:42] <Seveas> hmrocha, apt-get source praat (from breezy) and dpkg-buildpackage it on hoary
[05:42] <leagris> simplex not quite, misspelled it
[05:42] <leagris> it is half duplex
[05:42] <Ankka> oh
[05:42] <Ankka> but how do you know that?
[05:42] <Ankka> ops
[05:42] <Ankka> never mind
[05:42] <leagris> did you try forcing it full duplex
[05:42] <Antioch> elad` thx
[05:42] <thinman> is there any thing similar to vmware product out there but OSS ?
[05:42] <Ankka> leagris: how do I do that?
[05:42] <sdschulze> Re; what is The Right Way to cause Suspend-to-Disk on command line?
[05:43] <leagris> mii-tool -F eth0 10baseT-FD
[05:43] <hmrocha> Seveas, thanks very much, i'll try that
[05:43] <Ankka> thanks
[05:43] <cycom> is there a place where I can get old packages? Like gpsd 1.x instead of 2.x?
[05:43] <Seveas> thinman, qemu/kqemu
[05:43] <leagris> oups Ankka, mii-tool -F 10baseT-FD eth0
[05:43] <ElNooboStupido> 10 base t - UGH
[05:44] <Jeronimus> Anyone here know how to make xbindkey or imwheel or any other software to recognize the press of two __mouse buttons__ __at the same time__ and generate an output to that, like starting xterm or outputing a character in the shell, etc?
[05:44] <Seveas> leagris, ahh - the wonders of low-level networking :)
[05:44] <leagris> quite :)
[05:44] <thinman> thanks Seveas
[05:44] <Ankka> leagris: hmm, it still tells me it's only half duplex
[05:45] <leagris> Seveas, I had to deal with autosens troubles a while back with an ethernet ADSL bridge
[05:45] <testdf> hello all
[05:45] <ElNooboStupido> Ankka, what kind of network card is this?
[05:45] <othernoob> Seveas: is it possible that a firmware update of a dvd burner done in windows screwed up the burning speed in linux?
[05:45] <hmrocha> how can i list the dependencies for a package?
[05:45] <Ankka> ElNooboStupido: a 3Com ethernet card, 10Mbit
[05:45] <Seveas> othernoob, ENOCLUE
[05:45] <Seveas> hmrocha, apt-cache depends $package
[05:45] <othernoob> enoclue?
[05:45] <testdf> can anyone help me please?
[05:46] <hmrocha> Seveas, thanks
[05:46] <Seveas> if you need the build dependencies: apt-get build-dep $package will install them
[05:46] <ompaul> war-totem, I had a problem initally now to use nano you just write your mail, then you ctrl+o ctrl+x and then when that is done you tap the letter y and away the mail goes
[05:46] <Seveas> testdf, not until you ask your question
[05:46] <cycom> Seveas: any idea  where I can get an old package, like gpsd 1.x? 2.x is giving me problems.
[05:46] <testdf> ok
[05:47] <testdf> I just got the ubuntu cds today. I tried the live cd, and then I restarted my computer
[05:47] <Airk> in which repository contains the package libgmp3 ?
[05:47] <Airk> -in
[05:47] <testdf> but in the middle of the process, it is said that the cd which I put, is not to install the ubuntu
[05:47] <persia> I've just discovred that search in Malone is causing an error.  Given that this makes it difficult to search to see if the bug is reported, could anyone suggest an alternate way to verify this, or should I just file an additional bug?
[05:48] <leagris> What's your network card : Ankka  lspci | grep -i ethernet
[05:48] <ompaul> Seveas, how expensive is a domain in .nl?
[05:48] <cycom> hell, I'm not even sure that's what I need. I've heard rumblings that 2.x is the problem, but I'm not sure.  Every time I run gpsd, and then kismet, my wireless card goes down and won't come back up, even after I return it to managed mode.
[05:48] <ElNooboStupido> testdf, hence the term livecd and not install cd
[05:48] <testdf> But actually I only want to try the live cd, it seems that it does not work ??????
[05:48] <Seveas> ompaul, about EUR 8/year
[05:48] <hmrocha> Seveas, ...
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> ive noticed that the live cd - is often not as up to date and is often not a good test - if the Install cd/installed OS will work.
[05:48] <hmrocha> sh: dpkg-source: command not found
[05:48] <hmrocha> Unpack command 'dpkg-source -x praat_4.3.14-1.dsc' failed.
[05:48] <hmrocha> E: Child process failed
[05:48] <hmrocha> what is this?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> Live cd was cruddy on my laptop - the full install worked very well.
[05:48] <Seveas> hmrocha, you need some packages
[05:49] <thehil>  how do I find a function call in a bunch of *.so files?
[05:49] <leagris> thehil, google ;o)
[05:49] <nubbe> does PCIe have good support on linux?
[05:49] <Ankka> leagris: 000:00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c900 10Mbps Combo [boomerang] 
[05:49] <Seveas> thehil, objdump/strings
[05:49] <ompaul> Seveas, thanks
[05:49] <Seveas> hmrocha, more precisely: dpkg-dev
[05:49] <testdf> dr_willis, but I dont want to install the ubuntu now
[05:49] <hmrocha> ok
[05:50] <ElNooboStupido> maybe Ankka's card is a half duplez card?
[05:50] <persia> hmrocha: Install the dpkg-dev package.  In general, apt-file search foo should tell you what package to install for any "foo not found" errors.
[05:50] <leagris> ok Ankka, lets search the web about known issues with that ethernet controler and Linux
[05:50] <Ankka> hmm
[05:50] <Ankka> good idea
[05:50] <leagris> :)
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> testdf,  if the ubuntu live cd dosent work right.. well.. thers other live cd's out that may. Knoppix4.0 is very nice
[05:50] <jeffisageek> anyone able to download gimpshop via apt?
[05:50] <Ankka> except that my internet died again
[05:50] <Ankka> sigh
[05:50] <hmrocha> Seveas, worked perfectly
[05:50] <ElNooboStupido> I didnt know knoppix had a 4.0 yet - 3.9 SUCKED
[05:51] <leagris> Ankka, you mean the link work thant it stop to work ?
[05:51] <Seveas> ElNooboStupido, does this look like #knoppix ..?
[05:51] <hmrocha> Seveas, now i should move this file to the other pc and dpkg-buildpackage right?
[05:51] <Seveas> hmrocha, the .dsc .tar.gz .diff.gz and the subdir it created
[05:51] <ElNooboStupido> Seveas, so much for not liking the #debian attitude eh?
[05:51] <testdf> dr_willis, actually I have already fedora core 3 in my computer. Is there any possibility that this is why the live cd of ubuntu does not work?
[05:52] <Seveas> ElNooboStupido, off-topic discussions should not go in here. That has nothing to do with #debian attitude
[05:52] <Ankka> leagris: I mean that a few minutes ago I could use internet fine, then some command on the ubuntu machine used the net and that jams the router somehow so it needs to be restarted
[05:52] <leagris> You may try to disable hotplug for that link if tht's the case
[05:52] <elvirolo> using the breezy default configuration, my FPS is very low (for ex in glxgears) whereas everything used to work fine under hoary (with the same card) is this a known problem?
[05:52] <ElNooboStupido> uh huh
[05:52] <ompaul> ElNooboStupido, we do have a #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:52] <Jeronimus> i dont get any fps output at all within brezzy using glxgears
[05:52] <Jeronimus> world of warcraft works fine though
[05:52] <Ankka> leagris: hotplug?
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> test34,  doubtfull. You could disable the hd in the bios and boot the live cd to see..
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> oops testdf  :P
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> testdf,  what is "not working" ?
[05:53] <Seveas> too bad charter has dhcp
[05:53] <Seveas> missed the fact that there have been several bans on him already
[05:54] <leagris> Ankka, /etc/network/interfaces
[05:54] <elvirolo> Jeronimus: try running "which glxgears | xargs strings | grep benchmark | xargs glxgears"
[05:55] <Jeronimus> elvirolo nope, doesnt work either. The wheels spin fine but no output of how many fps i get
[05:55] <leagris> Ankka, if a line says like allow-hotplug eth0, comment it
[05:55] <elvirolo> strange, works here
[05:55] <Jeronimus> elvirolo - which gfx card?
[05:55] <Jeronimus> and drivers
[05:55] <thinman> apt-get build-dep gparted << still not install all dependencies packages. any idea ?
[05:55] <leagris> Not sure if hotplug can work properly with that interface card
[05:55] <Seveas> thinman, *build*-dep
[05:55] <Ankka> leagris: no... only line with hotplug is mapping hotplug
[05:56] <elvirolo> Jeronimus: ATI radeon 7500, and let me check the module ...
[05:56] <Seveas> it only installs what's needed for building
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> i think thers some known bug in glxgears that makes it not print the fps output.
[05:56] <Jeronimus> ok, i use nvidia ti4600
[05:56] <leopard> Anyone know smbmount well?
[05:56] <testdf> dr_willis, after putting the cd live in my computer, I restarted my computer. And it went well at the beginning (showing some information that the cd I put is the live cd of ubuntu). After some question about location I live, language, setting of keyboard, then it try to detect my cd, and then it told me that the cd inside the cd rom, is not the install cd. Of course it is not an install cd, since it is a live cd. But when I go to another menu
[05:56] <robotgeek> Dr_Willis: u have to use glxgears --iagreethatthisisnotabenchmark
[05:56] <Determinist> Seveas: you around mate?
[05:56] <elvirolo> Jeronimus: driver = "ati"
[05:56] <Seveas> Determinist, some would say
[05:56] <leagris> Ankka, comment the line with map eth0
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> robotgeek,  :P is that POSIX comppliant? :P
[05:56] <enyc>  test: is this on th 5.04 (hoary) livecd  or the 5.10 (breezy-PRERELEASE) livecd ??
[05:56] <leagris> then restart network
[05:57] <Determinist> Seveas: :) need some help, mind if i PM?
[05:57] <robotgeek> Dr_Willis: :)
[05:57] <Jeronimus> my ti4600 within cedega gives me more fps than in windows ... while the ati 9600 in my laptop gives about half the fps or less of what i get within windows btw
[05:57] <leagris> /etc/init.d/network restart
[05:57] <Seveas> Determinist, be my guest
[05:57] <Dr_Willis> the ati9600 on your laptop - is most likely underclocked compared to a 9600 on a desktopp box  :P
[05:57] <Jeronimus> my next linux laptop would contain an nvidia should ati not fix their drivers any time soon
[05:57] <testdf> enyc this is 5.04
[05:57] <Ankka> leagris: how do I un-read-only a file?
[05:57] <enyc> test: kk , not really had any problems with that...
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> I did get the ati flgrx drivers working on my laptop with the x200m visdeo card.
[05:58] <enyc> test: anwyay talk later, sorry ;-)
[05:58] <enyc> bye ;p
[05:58] <testdf> hmmm.. ok bye enyc
[05:58] <leagris> Ankka its owned by root, so edit with sudo yourlovedtexteditor
[05:58] <Ankka> ok
[05:59] <Jeronimus> Dr_willils - that remark was pointless. I was comparing the laptop within windows and the same laptop within linux. In windows wow outputs more fps on the laptop (about 80fps) than i get in windows with my ti4600. In linux i get double the fps with the ti4600 compared to the the laptop with the ati 9600
[05:59] <Airk> which repository contains the package libgmp3 ?
[05:59] <leagris> Ankka, if that does not help, then uncomment the line you just commented, (roolbak)
[05:59] <azeem> Airk: it's libgmp3c2 now I guess
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> Jeronimus,  interesting - im amazxed you got wow to work at all.
[05:59] <Jeronimus> WoW works perfectly on linux
[06:00] <Ankka> leagris: ok
[06:00] <Jeronimus> espacially with unbuntu
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> Jeronimus,  not last when i tried it.. but that was a month ago.
[06:00] <leagris> Jeronimus, quite well here as well with Breezy
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> cedega guys have been working hard on it i hear. :P
[06:00] <Jeronimus> with unbuntu breezy i got WoW to work well on ati 9600 as well as on nvidia ti4600
[06:00] <Jeronimus> cedega 4.4.1 works best.
[06:01] <leagris> Jeronimus,  did you install with -opengl or do you run the Windows 32API layer ?
[06:01] <testdf> hey hey... which version of ubuntu cd is appropriate for pc?
[06:01] <leagris> 3Dapi
[06:01] <Jeronimus> followed by the new wine package you can get with the synaptics packet manager. But then you have to start wow with "nice -n 19 wine -opengl" or you ll have choppy sound
[06:01] <elvirolo> ok something else : my mother has got a laptop with a Ralink 2500 wifi chipset ... it is detected and works ... but i have to run manually "sudo ifdown ra0 && sudo ifup ra0" to enable it
[06:02] <testdf> I mean, is version 5.04 for Intel x86 is suitable for PC ?
[06:02] <Seveas> testdf, either 5.04 or a daily breezy iso from tomorrow
[06:02] <Seveas> testdf, yes
[06:02] <hmrocha> Seveas, i have the files on the other pc
[06:02] <Ankka> leagris: is rebooting needed?
[06:02] <hmrocha> now i do "dpkg-buildpackage praat" ?
[06:02] <testdf> hmmm i c
[06:02] <leagris> Jeronimus, I had to trow away the artsd or esd daemons, they are the main cause of chuppy sound :)
[06:02] <Seveas> no
[06:02] <LeaChim> in the ubuntu install, is it possible to select which packages are installed?
[06:02] <Ankka> leagris: somce at least without it's no use
[06:02] <Seveas> cd praat-$version-number
[06:02] <Seveas> dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[06:02] <leagris> not required Ankka
[06:02] <Jeronimus> lagris - with cedega 4.4.1 all i do is --- cedega wow and it runs just as good as in windows. In my case even better with the ti4600.
[06:02] <testdf> so why I fail to test the live cd????
[06:03] <leagris> juste restarting the network script is ok
[06:03] <othernoob> LeaChim: no you can't choose shit during install, other than partitioning..
[06:03] <testdf> :(
[06:03] <elvirolo> ideas anyone?
[06:03] <robbkidd> Has anyone had problems with image ghosting while running dual-head?  I've got a Matrox G400 that ghosts the right display content on the left display.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> testdf,  could be the live cd is currupted.
[06:03] <Jeronimus> the only problem i have is getting all mouse of the 10 mouse buttons to work on this mx518
[06:03] <leagris> Jeronimus, nice to meet a Ubuntu wower :))
[06:03] <ompaul> LeaChim, you can install 'server' which will leave out X and then progress from there
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> 10?
[06:03] <Jeronimus> so far i can use only 5 mouse buttons + scroll wheel in wow
[06:04] <testdf> naaa... but I get it directly from ubuntu
[06:04] <Ankka> leagris: so that didn't work, either.
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> or course I cant really think of a use for them all in WOW. :P
[06:04] <Ankka> leagris: and teh problem is propably in the linux settings
[06:04] <Jeronimus> mouse button 8 9 10 i managed to get them to work within the newest wine (not cedega), but only if i dont hit two mouse buttons at the same time
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> Wonder how well Cedega's Guildwars support has gotten.
[06:04] <thehil>  how do I break from a for loop in bash script?
[06:05] <LeaChim> ompaul, will that still attempt to install vim though?
[06:05] <hmrocha> Seveas, it has some unmet dependencies
[06:05] <Jeronimus> xbindkeys and xvkbd helped here. But xbindkeys doesnt seem to recognize two mouse buttons pushed at the same time
[06:05] <leagris> Anka, tha 3c900 card may have spcific issues and recommandations, you may find usefull hints on the web
[06:05] <testdf> anyway, I will try another ubuntu live cd
[06:05] <testdf> see u soon all
[06:05] <testdf> bye
[06:05] <hmrocha> can i download the dependencies in hoary?
[06:05] <LeaChim> i just can't have vim. my cd is slightly corrupt, vim-common is dead
[06:05] <Seveas> hmrocha, apt-get build-dep praat (on the hoary machine)
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> advanced bash acripting Guide -->  http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[06:05] <leagris> Ankka, don't forget to acitvate hotplug again as it appear not related to your lost of network connectivity
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> scripting  guide.
[06:05] <Ankka> ElNooboStupido: what does the difference between full and half duplex really do?
[06:06] <ompaul> LeaChim, you will have vim no matter what afik
[06:06] <leagris> Ankka, full duplex, both side of the linke can talk at the same time
[06:06] <Ankka> leagris: I'm rebooting the network just to see if that was the problem
[06:06] <LeaChim> ompaul, that isn't very helpful then :/
[06:06] <Ankka> leagris:  ok
[06:06] <leagris> half duplex, each side of the link has to wait for the other to silent bevore talking
[06:06] <Ankka> brb
[06:06] <leagris> before
[06:06] <ompaul> LeaChim, LeaChim why do you not want vim?
[06:06] <hmrocha> Seveas, i did a "apt-get install" of one of the dependencies
[06:06] <hmrocha> Seveas, show work for that one right?
[06:07] <hmrocha> ...should work...
[06:07] <Seveas> yes
[06:07] <hmrocha> ok
[06:07] <LeaChim> ompaul, the vim-common package on my cd is corrupt, but everything else is fine. i'd just prefer not to burn another cd
[06:07] <Seveas> LeaChim, apt-get install --reinstall vim-common :)
[06:07] <jbroome> !away
[06:07] <ubotu> jbroome: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:07] <Seveas> switch off that extremely annoying script now
[06:08] <LeaChim> Seveas, i haven't got apt installed during the install, have i :/
[06:08] <Jeronimus> leagris - the fun thing about all this is. In windows i got some blue screen playing wow occasionaly or the client crashed. Now in linux the emulator doesnt crash nor does the system :)
[06:08] <leagris> LeaChim, I burn CD with k3b and it is nice to show th md5sum of the burned CD if I ask for verifiction
[06:08] <ompaul> hmrocha, that was for you - away notices waste space and tempers
[06:08] <Seveas> LeaChim, of course you have otherwise you installed a different distro
[06:08] <leagris> then I can check the md5 from the CD is the same as in the ISO file
[06:08] <LeaChim> Seveas, during the install :/
[06:08] <Jeronimus> World of Warcraft
[06:08] <LeaChim> if i drop to shell apt and dpkg don't exist yet
[06:08] <Seveas> ah right...
[06:08] <Seveas> aptitude does :)
[06:09] <LeaChim> how can aptitude work if dpkg doesn't exist?
[06:09] <LeaChim> aptitude calls dpkg to do most of it. and dpkg isn't there, i tried
[06:09] <LeaChim> so i can't install because it wants to install vim-common which i don't actually need :/
[06:09] <thehil>  How can I link the shared library named 'compobj.dll.so' using the '-l' option in g++?
[06:10] <war-totem> is it possible to surf the web with vim?
[06:10] <goh> Is this a channel for newbies If not may I know the name of 1?
[06:10] <leagris> war-totem, not, so fahr as I know war-totem
[06:10] <war-totem> leagris, ok tx
[06:10] <Jeronimus> war-totem - i was able to surf the web with lynx, which is also text based
[06:10] <Seveas> thehil, that's a weird name for an .so ...
[06:11] <meuserj|work> war-totem, no.. vim is just an editor.. it doesn't try to be EVERYTHING like emacs does
[06:11] <ompaul> war-totem, if you escape to a shell and run a browser you could but vim is normally just an editor :)
[06:11] <leagris> you may have a try with links on lynx if you nett to brows from console
[06:11] <Seveas> war-totem, there probably is a plugin for it but vim isn't emacs (thank god)
[06:11] <leagris> need
[06:11] <leagris> text browsing
[06:11] <ompaul> !tell goh about ask
[06:11] <ompaul> goh it is
[06:12] <thehil> Seveas, I know. That is a wine (windows API) library
[06:12] <war-totem> Seveas, it just seems that vim can do everything but surf
[06:12] <Seveas> goh this channel is for both new and seasoned ubuntu users who have questions :)
[06:12] <ompaul> war-totem, your confusing it with emacs
[06:12] <robbkidd> Mmm. Seasoning.
[06:12] <Seveas> thehil, ah ewww :/ I'll shut up then, my experience with wine is void and i'd like to keep it that way
[06:12] <leagris> before Ubuntu, I cursed nvidia while digging their support site with links :)
[06:12] <Seveas> war-totem, :!lynx
[06:12] <war-totem> ompaul, no im not, ive never used emacs
[06:13] <war-totem> !lynx
[06:13] <ubotu> war-totem: Are you on ritalin?
[06:13] <eliphas_> lol
[06:13] <Seveas> war-totem, no, in vim :)
[06:13] <dbzdeath> leagris: it wasn't hard :P was just change the nv driver to nvidia and thats generally all that was needed
[06:13] <war-totem> oh
[06:13] <war-totem> :(
[06:13] <leagris> dbzdeath, still had to download the proprietary drivers that where not on the distro
[06:14] <dbzdeath> leagris: yeah well you get that sometimes... especially on amd64 where it is more incomplete
[06:14] <FrankyFourFinger> hi
[06:14] <ompaul> war-totem, lynx . links are both text based browsers :) vim is what is called a modal editor it has modes for controlling actions and modes for editing
[06:14] <leagris> ubuntu way of dealing with non-free drivers is neat
[06:14] <war-totem> ompaul, ok thanks
[06:14] <Seveas> ompaul, that's what makes vim such a nice IDE
[06:14] <Seveas> :!make
[06:14] <war-totem> ompaul, checking it out now
[06:14] <Seveas> :)
[06:14] <leagris> dbzdeath, last weak i installed breezy on my amd64 box
[06:14] <dbzdeath> Seveas: gvim all the way! :)
[06:14] <leagris> week
[06:15] <dbzdeath> ahh the amd64 version?
[06:15] <kilorf> hello, the button acting like {windows button}+D at the bottom left, dissapeared, because it said it had a problem starting and i choose not to reload. How do i get it back?
[06:15] <creart> whats the apt-get command to install Kubuntu?
[06:15] <leagris> I forgot to install 64bit compiled nvidia kenel, and installed 32bit compled ones
[06:15] <ompaul> creart, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:15] <leagris> as the drivers activated, the screen went very dark with washed colors
[06:15] <dbzdeath> leagris: ahhhh
[06:15] <creart> thx, but will the installed drivers and progs. still be there?
[06:16] <LeaChim> creart, right click on a panel and say add to panel, then select it
[06:16] <leagris> thenuke, I reminded, hell this is a 64bit box :)
[06:16] <dbzdeath> i had that here... getting my xorg.conf setup on breezy was a bit of a bitch
[06:16] <dbzdeath> least i've had a fair bit of experience with it
[06:17] <leagris> breesy work fine with it, Shuttle SN25P wht 3000+ Athlon64 + 2GB RAM
[06:17] <leagris> nvidia 76800 GTX inside as well
[06:17] <leagris> all, work very nicely
[06:17] <Jeronimus> nvidia is the way to go with linux
[06:18] <dbzdeath> Jeronimus: sure is... hell nvidia is the way to go ... well... with any OS :P
[06:18] <Jeronimus> dbzdeath - well, ati works fine in windows
[06:18] <dbzdeath> does in linux too... just not as good
[06:18] <Jeronimus> just as nvidia does, but in linux only nvidia works well
[06:18] <dbzdeath> ati have always had gay driver support
[06:18] <leagris> Even the embed sound chip is natively supported by the breezy kernel driver
[06:18] <ompaul> war-totem, there are many good tutorials online for vi / vim get one that is easy to read and start there
[06:18] <leagris> that was not natively supporter with the Hoary kernel
[06:19] <kilorf> is there a hotbutton combo for showing the desktop under ubuntu?
[06:19] <leagris> Thou, I still get poor performance from the sata controler
[06:19] <leagris> though
[06:19] <Jeronimus> breezy is really good. Espacially the font configuration program is great. Its the first distro i got acceptable antialiased fonts with without having to edit any config files manualy
[06:19] <dbzdeath> leagris: that isn't ubuntu specific ... sata is fine here
[06:20] <Jeronimus> the non antialiased fonts however look bad compared to windows. That is if you turn off antialiasing
[06:20] <leagris> yes dbzdeath, SATA is caped at 32Mb/s with hdparm -t /dev/sda
[06:20] <leagris> in comparison, it gives 54 Mb/s on PATA with my other box
[06:21] <dbzdeath> leagris:  Timing buffered disk reads:  154 MB in  3.02 seconds =  51.05 MB/sec
[06:21] <henkka> can anyone help me with my wlan issues?
[06:21] <robotgeek> war-totem: try vim-tutor
[06:21] <leagris> May be the nforce4 SATA controler is not so well supporter yet
[06:21] <dbzdeath> leagris: Timing buffered disk reads:  108 MB in  3.03 seconds =  35.68 MB/sec
[06:21] <dbzdeath>  <-- vs my ide
[06:21] <leagris> Didn't found anything on the nvidia website either
[06:21] <dbzdeath> ahhh nuts
[06:22] <dbzdeath> nvidia nforce... via is best for linux
[06:22] <leagris> Intel ICH5 SATA controlers are dumb as well with linux
[06:23] <leagris> :)
[06:23] <elvirolo> any ideas about my network problem ?
[06:23] <henkka> i followed good howto about wlan installation, and everything went just great, (without errors), anyways, i cant get wlan0 in my networkcontrolpanel.. any ideas?
[06:23] <dbzdeath> man... i learnt a lesson... computer circuitry can be more resilient than i thought... another lesson... don't drop a bottle of pepsi when the lid isn't on properly near a open case
[06:24] <Xappe> lastlog alan
[06:24] <Xappe> darn
[06:24] <Xappe> ;)
[06:24] <dbzdeath> :) love that feature of xchat Xappe
[06:24] <Jeronimus> did any of you work with xbindkeys?
[06:24] <Xappe> dbzdeath: i'm using irssi
[06:25] <leagris> ROTFL dbzdeath, that's the dangerous life of geeks boxes, open to desktop lunchs, drink, smoke hasards :)
[06:25] <dbzdeath> Xappe: aahhh didn't know any other client had it
[06:25] <henkka> i also learnt one lesson, dont ever try to hunt mouse with katana, you will never get that mouse...
[06:25] <Xappe> clear
[06:25] <dbzdeath> leagris: yeah i know... i dropped some chips in there once...
[06:25] <Jeronimus> henkka why not?
[06:25] <Xappe> damn, I'm too hungry. missing the slashes all the time
[06:26] <Jeronimus> dbzdeath - you leave your box open because it gets too hot?
[06:27] <dbzdeath> yeah .. that and i can't be bothered sticking the cover back on since i always have to get into it
[06:27] <pc22> !tell pc22 about samba
[06:27] <dbzdeath> creates a big dust problem though... which reminds me... it needs a cleaning
[06:27] <Jeronimus> must be really loud in your room
[06:27] <leagris> dbzdeath, that's why I baught a shuttle, after loong ready about linux ubuntu copatibility
[06:28] <leagris> tiny boxes, clean, very easy assembly, work plenty, no overheat...
[06:28] <dbzdeath> ya i gotta start manually picking out dust from the fans with my fingers
[06:29] <henkka> Jeronimus: because samurai skills are ded, you cant never catch it :D
[06:29] <Jeronimus> henkka - a real ninja could catch it i bet
[06:30] <cef> Seveas: well, not reloading "Show Desktop", "Workspace Switcher", etc, then adding them back manually didn't work.. they still fail at login
[06:30] <trask> what is the major diff on debian and ubuntu?
[06:30] <henkka> Jeronimus: i dont think so, have you ever seen real lil tiny mouse, its so fast, almost moing with the lightspeed
[06:30] <henkka> moving
[06:30] <rama> is mysql 5.0 stable and available in ubuntu repositories?
[06:31] <nlogax> trask Ubuntu is a little more streamlined for a desktop OS (out of box)
[06:31] <dbzdeath> nlogax: just install the server version.. its great! specially since i hate gnome... i like xfce
[06:31] <cef> rama: not that I am aware
[06:31] <trask> nlogax: ok.. tried debian once.. never got it running gui on my ibm x23
[06:31] <jack-> question..does anyone know a gui ftp client for x11
[06:32] <jack-> which supports auth tls?
[06:32] <robotgeek> jack-: gftp
[06:32] <jack-> no
[06:32] <jack-> it doesnt, thx
[06:32] <robotgeek> jack-: :)
[06:32] <dbzdeath> yeah gftp is great... wish it had PRET support though :(
[06:32] <jack-> gftp is cute, if it would support auth tls it would be perfect
[06:32] <Jeronimus> I like icewm as a windowmanager. but gnome with ubuntu is just fine if you dont want to spend your lifetime tweaking the damn OS
[06:32] <jack-> tired of having to use pftp
[06:33] <Jeronimus> icewm is the fastest windowmanager i ve tried so far. yet it works well
[06:33] <jack-> robotgeek: is there any other?
[06:33] <robotgeek> jack-: what abt lftp?
[06:33] <dbzdeath> Jeronimus: yeah i liked icewm... but i found it a little lacking... so xfce fits the bill for m
[06:33] <dbzdeath> e
[06:33] <jack-> lftp is great as well
[06:33] <jack-> console though
[06:33] <jack-> i want a gui client :)
[06:33] <robotgeek> jack-: tab completion :)
[06:33] <jack-> d'oh :)
[06:33] <dbzdeath> yeah i like gui clients too... just makes things easier
[06:34] <jack-> lftp+pftp do what i want, sure..but i want a gui now
[06:34] <nlogax> dbzdeath ah, well I love gnome myself (although it obviously is a little bloated)
[06:34] <dbzdeath> yeah well i prefer kde to gnome in terms of looks... but thats bloated as hell lol
[06:34] <jack-> cant be true that windows users have flashfxp and tons of others, and there's nothing suitable for linux/bsd
[06:34] <jack-> thats sad! ;)
[06:34] <cef> "Show Desktop", "Workspace Switcher", and "Window List" die at login for me. NOT reloading them and then adding them back manually to the gnome panel doesn't help (as other people suggested). I'm running breezy and I'm up to date.. any more ideas?
[06:34] <trask> i live with my kde.. have to.. cant take gnome
[06:35] <Jeronimus> i would like an IceWMubuntu
[06:35] <nlogax> trask Yeah I tried Debian (Woody) but it asked about 100 very esoteric Qs during install and needed a lot of manual work to get a useable system - Ubuntu worked straight outta the box and asked very few Qs
[06:35] <jack-> jeronimus, build it yourself
[06:35] <jack-> kickstart makes it possible
[06:35] <jack-> could even do a ncurses-ubuntu, yay
[06:35] <Jeronimus> jack - that would take too long as i am not such an experienced linux user
[06:35] <dbzdeath> haha
[06:36] <dbzdeath> ncurses
[06:36] <nubbe> jack-, maybe virgo ftp
[06:36] <dbzdeath> Jeronimus: not hard.. do a server install and when it is done type apt-get install icewm
[06:36] <jack-> virgo? is it in the repos?
[06:36] <dbzdeath> and that should be it
[06:36] <nlogax> dbzdeath KDE is too Windows-like for me, I prefer Gnomes minimalistic approach (dare I say it, a little Mac-like)
[06:36] <Seveas> Jeronimus, it's not that hard, you just need to build a metapackage that works based on ubuntu-desktop
[06:36] <trask> nlogax: i run slackware now tho.. worked on my desktop straight away too even with all the funny hardware i got.. but i might just consider this ubuntu some time
[06:36] <Jeronimus> i could of course make ubuntu run with icewm, thats not way too diffucult. but getting all menus etc down within ubuntu would take too long for me
[06:36] <dbzdeath> nlogax: haha yeah xfce is mac-like in way... although i don't like mac's :P
[06:37] <Ankka> does ubuntu need a driver for an ethernet card?
[06:37] <Ankka> since it's not working like it should
[06:37] <dbzdeath> Ankka: most are built into the kernel
[06:37] <cef> Jeronimus: erm? why? there is this nice package called "menu" which does all that for youy
[06:37] <cef> you even
[06:37] <jack-> nubbe: apt-cache search virgo gives 0 hits
[06:37] <jack-> how to get that one?
[06:37] <Ankka> dbzdeath: that's what I thought, but whatever I do I can't get it to work at all
[06:37] <dbzdeath> jack-: guess there isn't a ubuntu package for it
[06:38] <jack-> ok
[06:38] <dbzdeath> Ankka: what card?
[06:38] <trask> mac interface is not really flexible.. but after 6 months i feel i have tamed it to what i can live with
[06:38] <jack-> lets google
[06:38] <Jeronimus> cef - didnt know that this package would do all for me, but as i said, i am not that experienced with tweaking windowsmanagers
[06:38] <Ankka> dbzdeath: 3Com 10Mbit/s
[06:38] <Ankka> some old one
[06:38] <dbzdeath> hmmmm
[06:38] <kennethlove> anyone know of a way to redirect the browser command to another machine?
[06:38] <nubbe> jack-, not in repos,  http://freshmeat.net/projects/virgoftp/?branch_id=60100&release_id=205110
[06:38] <dbzdeath> you could try modprobe tulip a lot of old cards use the tulip driver
[06:38] <jack-> thx :)
[06:38] <nlogax> trask I tried Slack too (well, Vector to be exact) but I need more in the way of pkg mgt than .tar.gz files
[06:39] <cef> Jeronimus: won't be the same menus as they appear in gnome, but it provides a way for packages to provide menu entries in a non-wm specific way.
[06:39] <Ankka> dbzdeath: ok, I'l try
[06:39] <jack-> btw, what are the current rules for the multiverse/universe repos? can i put opensource stuff i managed to build there for others?
[06:39] <nlogax> trask - so what you doin loitering around here then eh?  :-)
[06:40] <trask> scouting :)
[06:40] <nubbe> jack-, u have to go thru the repo masters  :)
[06:41] <nlogax> well it's probably the best community so I don't blame ya! ;-)
[06:41] <zrothe> I'm having trouble installing drivers for my ATI Radeon 9800
[06:41] <cef> "Show Desktop", "Workspace Switcher", and "Window List" die at login for me and presents a dialog asking "reload" or "don't reload". Reloading them doesn't help. NOT reloading them and then adding them back manually to the gnome panel doesn't help either (as other people suggested). I'm running breezy and I'm up to date.. any more ideas?
[06:41] <trask> no i like try new stuff.. also started with fedora back with fc1.. learned that its smart following the more popular linux distros.. if not for the amount of others using it and mutual help that way
[06:42] <slept> zrothe, what kind of ?
[06:42] <jack-> nubbe: ok
[06:42] <zrothe> well, in the documentation it says open a terminal and type ./thedrivername.run
[06:42] <zrothe> but that command doesn't work
[06:42] <slept> zrothe, thats not the way to install , use apt
[06:42] <zrothe> oh
[06:43] <zrothe> so apt-get install thedrivename.run ?
[06:43] <trask> is the ubuntu apt the same as the debian one or does it go other places?
[06:43] <nlogax> trask yes, it's one thing to have the technically 'best' solution but sometimes it's better to be where the momentum is
[06:43] <Ankka> dbzdeath: sudo modprobe tulip gives nothing - or is it even meant to?
[06:43] <jack-> trask: apt is the same, sources.list isnt
[06:43] <nlogax> trask that's why I use linux & not BSD (I do believe BSD to be inherently better designed and stuff)
[06:43] <dbzdeath> Ankka: blank is good now try sudo ifconfig eth0 or whatever the network card device should be
[06:44] <slept> zrothe, no remove that thing you downloaded, search via apt-cache search for fglrx and install kernel and xserver drivers
[06:44] <Ankka> ok
[06:44] <nlogax> trask having said that I think the Debian-based linuxes are probably the best technically
[06:44] <zrothe> ok, I think I saw that....thanks slept
[06:44] <zrothe> another quick Q. Does gaim have a preform?
[06:44] <zrothe> O_o
[06:44] <jack-> preform?
[06:44] <zrothe> perform rather
[06:44] <jack-> for what?
[06:44] <Ankka> dbzdeath: hmm, nothing changed that I'd notice, I think
[06:45] <dbzdeath> zrothe: as in /me blah blah
[06:45] <zrothe> ./join #ubuntu uhhhh /msg nickserv....etc etc etc
[06:45] <trask> nlogax: if u can live with having to compile evrything (wich in some cases have its advantages) then slackware isnt that bad.. but in time it will grow old.. not much happen to it as it is..
[06:45] <jack-> ahh
[06:45] <zrothe> I hate typing it all out you know....
[06:45] <jack-> dunno, i would never use gaim for irc
[06:45] <dbzdeath> Ankka: hmmm well sorry i'm not sure.. your best bet is googling up your card
[06:45] <jack-> get a real client
[06:45] <zrothe> maybe I should
[06:45] <jack-> yes :)
[06:45] <manubuntu> hello.. i m asking my self what is better for streaming ...  MPLAYER OR GXINE ??
[06:45] <Ankka> dbzdeath: ok, thanks
[06:45] <jack-> gaim is cool for aim/msn/icq
[06:45] <jack-> but irc is irc
[06:45] <zrothe> took me awhile just to figure out how to get into a channel
[06:45] <dbzdeath> yeah i agree jack-
[06:45] <manubuntu> xine is very good
[06:45] <jack-> and deserves a good client :p
[06:45] <zrothe> Miranda IM > Gaim
[06:46] <zrothe> im my book
[06:46] <zrothe> and its IRC client is pretty good
[06:46] <manubuntu> but for streaming maybe mplayer is better
[06:46] <manubuntu> is there a difference ???
[06:46] <nubbe> is mplayer improved in breesy?
[06:46] <trask> gaim is really nice i use 4 protocols so im kinda forced to like it tho
[06:46] <manubuntu> yes
[06:46] <zrothe> jack, do you use xchat?
[06:46] <jack-> ctcp version me ;)
[06:47] <dbzdeath> i recently found beetlbee which is great
[06:47] <dbzdeath> msn icq etc. via a irc client
[06:47] <nubbe> totem-xine has worked for me in hoary, but there seem to be some good stuff for mplayer so I'll try it when I upgrade
[06:47] <jack-> yep, bitlbee is the final answer
[06:47] <manubuntu> ok
[06:47] <dbzdeath> oops spelt it wrong
[06:47] <manubuntu> i have breezy .. mplayer runs good
[06:47] <trask> beetlbee?.. hmm.. ok it takes yahoo also?
[06:47] <zrothe> heh, can't with gaim
[06:47] <zrothe> O_o
[06:47] <dbzdeath> trask: bitlbee sorry
[06:47] <nubbe> manubuntu, k, nice
[06:48] <cef> "Show Desktop", "Workspace Switcher", and "Window List" unexpectedly quit at login and then give me a dialog asking "reload" or "don't reload". Reloading them doesn't help. NOT reloading them and then adding them back manually to the gnome panel doesn't help either (as other people suggested). I'm running breezy and I'm up to date.. any ideas people?
[06:48] <dbzdeath> trask: i'm not sure if it takes yahoo
[06:48] <manubuntu> i had to change to mplayer because i couldn t make gxine work properly
[06:48] <simplydazed> Hi, what method are you guys using to create Torrents?
[06:48] <jack-> manubuntu: maybe give vlc a try
[06:48] <w-the-c> I'm running breezy preview and I can't get enlightenment running...  I want 17 so I'm trying the get_e.sh script, I think it's an issue with freetype...
[06:49] <manubuntu> yes
[06:49] <manubuntu> i will try this
[06:49] <manubuntu> wich version is better ??
[06:49] <manubuntu> for breezy
[06:50] <nubbe> manubuntu, dunno, but why not try default   :)
[06:50] <manubuntu> ok
[06:50] <Airk> hi again. i need to install kismet. but it depends on libgmp3. which repository contains the package libgmp3 so i can install kismet?
[06:51] <nlogax> trask yeah I don't mind manually compiling stuff - it's when I want to delete/upgrade something that is using shared libraries - 'dependency hell' as it's known
[06:51] <trask> nlogax: i dont uninstall stuff :P  (solution is buy new harddiskspace)
[06:51] <jack-> one of the very few advantages of rpm :p
[06:51] <jack-> --nodeps --ignorearch etc etc
[06:52] <dbzdeath> hahaha what? advantage and rpm are two words that shouldn't be used in the same sentence
[06:52] <nlogax> trask - what about when u need a new version of the same package?  you have to use statically-linked libraries, which eats a bit more memory/disk
[06:53] <zrothe> ugh....xchat joins channels and then idents with nickserv....so I join #ubuntu-unregistered first
[06:53] <trask> jack-: not my experience with fedora.. the rpsm had to b reinstalled a lot and the registry recompiled over and over.. exactly like doze, not possible to have more than like 50 programs installed
[06:53] <dbzdeath> yeah
[06:53] <dbzdeath> i won't run any rpm based distro
[06:53] <dbzdeath> thats my rule
[06:53] <dbzdeath> rpm is the devil
[06:53] <Seveas> good rule
[06:53] <nlogax> RPM  eewwww! me neither - but YUM works good on Fedora
[06:53] <Jeronimus> Did someone create a script for linux which adds important features like divx/xvid/mp3 decoding into linux/ubuntu?
[06:54] <Jeronimus> or do you have to get everything manualy still?
[06:54] <dbzdeath> nlogax: last time i tried yum on fedora it was lacking in packages ... by a lot
[06:54] <Seveas> Jeronimus, yes, these scripts all suck and should be metapackages
[06:55] <nlogax> yeah perhaps it is, but at least it handles dependencies intelligently :-)
[06:55] <jack-> trask, i didnt say rpm rules
[06:55] <dbzdeath> to a degree
[06:55] <trask> my mac have a system that seems to handle the packages well tho.. 6 moths completely mistreatment and its still running.. first time since my amiga i havent been able to put a system to its knees
[06:55] <jack-> but at least you can install a package that claims to have unresolved dependencies and shit, if you try hard enough
[06:55] <dbzdeath> portage is a great pacakage management system :)
[06:55] <Jeronimus> Seveas - Well, i was using vdrscript for suse, which probably will work in ubuntu as well. But its a bit bloated and is more geared towards adding vdr functionality as well
[06:56] <Seveas> I'm going to create such metapackages btw
[06:56] <Jeronimus> Seveas - I know the reason ubuntu doesnt comes with all this functionality included is mainly because of copyright reasons i dont fully understand nor want to
[06:56] <abarbaccia> hey all - why would my sound in breezy just stop working for no reason
[06:57] <Jeronimus> Seveas - cool, good to hear that
[06:58] <abarbaccia> anybody know why my sound isnt coming out of my speakers? its playign the music i can see it
[06:58] <abarbaccia> just no output
[06:58] <cef> Up to date breezy (upgraded from Hoary just over a week ago): "Show Desktop", "Workspace Switcher", and "Window List" unexpectedly quit at login and then give me a dialog asking "reload" or "don't reload". Reloading them doesn't help. NOT reloading them and then adding them back manually to the gnome panel doesn't help either (as other people suggested). Any ideas people?
[06:58] <Jeronimus> Seveas - It would be nice if with just a click or getting a single package you could have mp3/divx/xvid playback in ubuntu.
[06:58] <NovaFlash> Jeronimus: yes it would be but copyright issues would probably prevent things from being made THAT easy.
[06:59] <Jeronimus> NovaFlash - Well, it didnt prevent this to happen in windows. There are packages in windows which with a single click install all those codes just fine
[06:59] <bananaman_> um... hi... new ubuntu user... can anyone help with a monitor issue im having?
[06:59] <NovaFlash> Jeronimus: you won't see these packages on www.microsoft.com
[07:00] <Jeronimus> NovaFlash - Thats right!!!
[07:00] <Jeronimus> NovaFlash - So , whats your point? They exist still
[07:00] <digitize> bananaman_: just ask, and you'll probably be helped
[07:00] <NovaFlash> Jeronimus: you don't get it. the package manager works by querying a few predefined servers. these are servers maintained by ubuntu. if they contain packages that lead to illegal software, ubuntu will be prosecuted.
[07:01] <digitize> Jeronimus: it's called: apt-get install mplayer-586
[07:01] <cef> Seveas: any ideas?
[07:01] <digitize> or apt-get install vlc
[07:01] <digitize> or apt-get install xine-ui
[07:01] <Jeronimus> NovaFlash - I didnt ask for the package to be put on the main servers... I just asked if such a package exists.
[07:01] <Jeronimus> NovaFlash - I wouldnt want such a thing to happen to ubuntu of course
[07:01] <NovaFlash> digitize: yeah... but xine-ui for example still needs win32codecs installed and various other packages.. it's not a happy-go-lucky one package install boom it works solutions
[07:02] <nubbe> jack-, https://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=491165   VirgoFTP support SOCKS proxy(version 5),and HTTP proxy, including authentication.
[07:02] <digitize> NovaFlash: yes this is true
[07:02] <apsync> hi, I have a weird problem, when I woke up this morning, and started my pc... there was an error saying something was wrong with my hdd first, then telling me there was an error with my graphic card, ubuntu dont boot anymore, what can I do?
[07:02] <bananaman_> ok then... i boot up ubuntu and after seeing the graphical login my screen goes blank, no signal is recieved by my monitor... then i press ctrl+alt+backspace and it seems to refresh and i can see it again, and THIS time it doesnt disappear and works fine from then on... whats the problem? its annoying to keep having to press that everytime i boot up...
[07:02] <jack-> just trying to build it nubbe
[07:02] <digitize> but i find typing 'apt-get install win32codecs' to be non-time consuming :>
[07:02] <LeaChim> bananaman_, check /var/log/Xorg* ?
[07:02] <jack-> i dont need that, i just need auth tls to work (thats ssl-ftp, kinda)
[07:02] <NovaFlash> Jeronimus: hmmm well, no clue really.. I just looked up some guides and added some other repositories to get the stuff working piece by piece. it wasn't all that difficult fortunately.
[07:02] <nubbe> jack-, k :)
[07:03] <NovaFlash> digitize: yes it's not all that much trouble to get divx/xvid and all working on a linuxnumbercrunchingdoorstop
[07:03] <Jeronimus> I want to correct you there. Its NOT AT ALL easy to get divx/mp3/xvid to work on linux for a new to linux user
[07:04] <Jeronimus> and since ubuntu is designed for human beings and not for freaks
[07:04] <Stalwart> ping
[07:04] <Stalwart> wtf?
[07:04] <robotgeek> bananaman_: also check .xsession-errors
[07:04] <Jeronimus> it should be easier to do such
[07:04] <Stalwart> dns is dead?
[07:04] <jack-> oh nice
[07:04] <robotgeek> bananaman_: ~/.xsession-errors
[07:04] <jack-> nubbe: its even available as binary
[07:04] <cef> Jeronimus: are you referring to experience with hoary or breezy?
[07:04] <jack-> love that
[07:04] <NovaFlash> Jeronimus: i was new to linux one week ago, and i got it working in about half an hour... but i'll concede to your point that it would be easier if there was one package.
[07:04] <nubbe> jack-, yepp
[07:05] <nubbe> jack-, gtk even
[07:05] <digitize> well yes adjusting to a new environment can be difficult at first
[07:05] <digitize> i went through the same thing a year ago
[07:05] <Jeronimus> cef - i like both. I am just saying that ubuntu did a good job to make linux more accesible to normal people and not only freakos. And such a package would make it even more accesible
[07:05] <NovaFlash> does anyone known why mounting a samba share to a mount point that contains a space is so damned hard to do? i can't get it to work. what do i do to allow a space in my mount point?
[07:05] <digitize> NovaFlash: just use cmd line and tab completetion
[07:05] <digitize> or use quotes for the dir
[07:05] <NovaFlash> digitize: was that about the same time you were released from prison? ;)
[07:05] <digitize> NovaFlash: lol no
[07:06] <apsync> can someone try to help me, I have a weird problem, when I woke up this morning, and started my pc... there was an error saying something was wrong with my hdd first, then telling me there was an error with my graphic card, ubuntu dont boot anymore, what can I do?
[07:06] <cef> Jeronimus: I was asking what the experince you're commenting is is based on.. cos it's a LOT easier in breezy.. and given that it's to be released in about a month....
[07:06] <NovaFlash> digitize: unfortunately that does not work. in the root terminal it does but in /etc/fstab it does not.
[07:06] <robotgeek> Jeronimus: are u calling me a freak?
[07:06] <robotgeek> :)
[07:06] <bananaman_> robotgeek: is that a command i type at the root?
[07:06] <digitize> NovaFlash: do it in the root term then paste it into /etc/fstab
[07:06] <digitize> :)
[07:06] <digitize> bananaman_: that's a log file
[07:07] <robotgeek> bananaman_: nope, it's a file in your home directory. open it up in a text editor
[07:07] <bananaman_> right...thanks
[07:07] <puff> Morning.
[07:07] <nlogax> Jeronimus - restricted formats could be made that simple I think.  It would require a shell script that would need to be run with sudo
[07:07] <NovaFlash> digitize: i tried escaping like so /mnt/smb/my\ share/  - and /mnt/smb/my\040share/ - and "/mnt/smb/my share/" - and "/mnt/smb/my\ share/" - and "/mnt/smb/my\040share/" - and "/mnt/smb/my share/" and various other such as these. it does not function.
[07:07] <nubbe> jack-, but I don't know what that means when it's java-based
[07:08] <digitize> NovaFlash: odd ~_~
[07:08] <cef> Jeronimus: if you're so inclined, then create the package, host it on a server somewhere, and go for it! Most of the people in countries where it'd be legal to do something like this aren't that interested. The problem is finding someone who's interested in doing it.
[07:08] <NovaFlash> digitize: yes... shall i put you back in prison now?
[07:08] <digitize> sure
[07:09] <Jeronimus> cef - I am not good enough for that
[07:09] <jack-> omg java
[07:09] <NovaFlash> digitize: oh. okay. chmod 000 digitize. but seriously.. any suggestion? i tried the root terminal suggestion.. the weird thing is, the escaping stuff WORKS in the root terminal but NOT in the /etc/fstab thing. weird.
[07:09] <jack-> basically it just means that its freakin slow on my crap pc
[07:09] <jack-> heh
[07:09] <digitize> what editor are you using?
[07:09] <NovaFlash> vi
[07:10] <NovaFlash> and i added a carriage return line feed at the end
[07:10] <cef> NovaFlash: tried "/mnt/smb/my\ share/" or even \"/mnt/smb/my share/\" ??
[07:10] <NovaFlash> cef: that too
[07:10] <NovaFlash> i even tried double backslashes
[07:10] <robotgeek> yeah, escape spaces with a '\ '
[07:10] <digitize> i didn't think quotes were necessary with the escape chars
[07:10] <nubbe> ach so
[07:10] <NovaFlash> i'm using hoary sonic the hedgehog release 5.04 by the way
[07:10] <dr_willis> Hmm.. what tool would one use to copy a DVD (my data dvd) - to another dvd?  just a simple make me a coppy of this disk kinda task.
[07:10] <NovaFlash> digitize: did without as well..
[07:10] <dr_willis> No need to decrypt or anything else. :P
[07:11] <nlogax> NovaFlash, you'll have to find out about how the fstab file handles special characters/spaces
[07:11] <cef> so you did try to escape the quotes? things like that can get stripped by multiple iterations of something that does strip characters
[07:11] <NovaFlash> cef; yes i did. when i next run mount -a i get a helptext of mount in my root terminal, but no error message or diagnostic code.
[07:12] <bananaman_> robotgeek: i foudn the file, its called Xorg.0.log... but i dont see any errors in it...
[07:12] <jack-> nubbe: 530 User jack access denied. Use secure access
[07:12] <robotgeek> bananaman_: what about ~/.xsession-errors ?
[07:12] <jack-> means: virgoftp sucks, too
[07:12] <jack-> :<
[07:12] <NovaFlash> cef/digitize: it's okay though.. eventually i just got angry and threw it down the stairs.
[07:12] <Kromonos> hi
[07:13] <bananaman_> robotgeek: i cant find that file
[07:13] <apsync> hi, what is the apt-get way to get nvidia drivers?
[07:13] <Kromonos> how can I change keyboard layout in tty?
[07:13] <robotgeek> bananaman_: oh okay, do u use gnome?
[07:13] <bananaman_> robotgeek: yes
[07:14] <robotgeek> bananaman_: try deleting the directory 'rm -rf ~/.ICEauthority'
[07:15] <apsync> ElNooboStupido ok thank you
[07:15] <nubbe> jack-, I've never used it, I just saw it in passing a while back, looked like it was better than gftp, the gui (gftp) sucks compared to flash and cute so I just remembered it
[07:15] <apsync> omfg i just found a fucking rcon hack... http://rconhack.netfirms.com/rconhack_v2.5.zip !
[07:15] <NovaFlash> wow, a fucking rcon hack
[07:16] <NovaFlash> i'm so impressed.
[07:16] <bananaman_> robotgeek: i found the xsession-errors...sorry im new... let me check if i can find something
[07:17] <apsync> anyone know the apt-get command to get the latest nvidia drivers?
[07:17] <bananaman_> robotgeek: this is what appears over and over again "failed request with status 1030"
[07:18] <robotgeek> bananaman_: i dunno what that means, but please do file a bug on bugzilla.ubuntu.com, with all this information
[07:18] <bananaman_> robotgeek: alright, thank you
[07:18] <trask> bitlbee seems nice :)
[07:18] <trask> made for amiga also :P
[07:19] <bananaman_> robotgeek: should i delete what you said?
[07:19] <jack-> are there still amigas trask?
[07:19] <robotgeek> bananaman_: try that, it works for me when such a problem arises :)
[07:19] <jack-> i kinda lost track after kick 40.71/os 3.1
[07:19] <trask> jack-: this screen stands on a turned on amiga :)
[07:19] <jack-> omg
[07:19] <bananaman_> robotgeek: alright, so i delete then reboot?
[07:19] <dr_willis> I have several working Amigas.
[07:19] <jack-> what processor are you using trask?
[07:19] <jack-> ppc?
[07:19] <robotgeek> bananaman_: you get that problem only on reboot?
[07:20] <trask> jack-: the amiga is just a plain old amiga cdtv
[07:20] <jack-> lol ok :)
[07:20] <p_jnco> hello
[07:20] <jack-> my fastest amiga is a 1200 with 68030/50 and 64mb ram
[07:20] <jack-> was damn expensive back then, the ram and stuff
[07:21] <trask> jack-: wow.. those ive always dreamed off.. and still do
[07:21] <jack-> :)
[07:21] <jack-> it even has a scsi interface on the accelerator card
[07:21] <Jeronimus> amiga reminds me of too many guru meditations
[07:21] <trask> jack-: with harddrive and evrything i assume
[07:21] <jack-> phase5 i think
[07:21] <jack-> yeah
[07:21] <bananaman_> robotgeek: yes, at the log on screen, it goes blank, and after pressing ctrl+alt+backspace it refreshes or something and it works fine from then on...but its every reboot
[07:21] <funky> hi
[07:21] <Jeronimus> the amiga was a crash happy box
[07:21] <jack-> but..i never used the amiga anymore for like 7 years now
[07:22] <trask> mine have pcmcia port.. so i toy a bit with it from time to time
[07:22] <robotgeek> bananaman_: i dunno if deleting that will help. i have the same problem on breezy whenever x is updated/ something related. but deleting that directory, it works fine
[07:22] <dr_willis> The Amiga Emulators out - are very well done. :P enjoy your old games.
[07:22] <jack-> yeah
[07:22] <bananaman_> robotgeek: alright then, ill do a reboot see how it goes, thanks for your help
[07:23] <jack-> still playing gf2 on the xbox-uae sometimes
[07:23] <p_jnco> hey folks im trying to change monitors to an lcd and get out of range on start up, any ideas?
[07:23] <robotgeek> bananaman_: np
[07:23] <jack-> some games just never get bad :)
[07:23] <p_jnco> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:23] <trask> dr_willis: NO!.. never emulate em... better to use floppys that u need atleast 5 backups if u use em often
[07:23] <p_jnco> tried running that
[07:23] <p_jnco> says package is not isntalled
[07:23] <p_jnco> =/
[07:23] <p_jnco> is there a way to change monitor type from within the gui?
[07:23] <robotgeek> p_jnco: are u using hoary/warty?
[07:24] <p_jnco> yes
[07:24] <p_jnco> warty
[07:24] <p_jnco> i believe
[07:24] <p_jnco> thats what cmd line says
[07:24] <robotgeek> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[07:24] <p_jnco> ok
[07:24] <p_jnco> cool
[07:25] <jamey3> hey
[07:25] <cef> Usung Breezy (upgraded from Hoary just over a week ago, and up to date): "Show Desktop", "Workspace Switcher", and "Window List" unexpectedly quit at login and then show me a dialog asking to "Reload" or "Don't Reload". Reloading them doesn't help. NOT reloading them and then adding them back manually to the gnome panel doesn't help either (suggested by other people). Anyone?
[07:25] <p_jnco> robotgeek
[07:26] <p_jnco> help me out 1 second im in the setup
[07:26] <p_jnco> do i choose the driver defaulted to me
[07:26] <p_jnco> its a chipset
[07:26] <p_jnco> video
[07:26] <robotgeek> p_jnco: i'll try
[07:26] <p_jnco> do i choose the one already selected?
[07:26] <p_jnco> i would assume so
[07:26] <robotgeek> p_jnco: please don't use enter as punctuation
[07:26] <p_jnco> =)
[07:26] <robotgeek> p_jnco: yeah, the defaults should work well
[07:27] <dr_willis> cef,  could delete the users .gnome* dirs that have all the settings and then when ya log back in - it should default back to the default gnome settings
[07:27] <jack-> btw nubbe, robotgeek: the solution for my problem is called IglooFTP PRO
[07:27] <jack-> just to let you know
[07:27] <jack-> that one does it :)
[07:27] <Jeronimus> anyone here who is good with setting up xkeybind or imwheel or any other similar tool?
[07:27] <dr_willis> cef,  also could make a new user - seeif it work for the new user. Maybe a bigger issue you are getting  into.
[07:27] <dr_willis> Jeronimus,  ive not needed to use imwheel in ages.
[07:28] <avinoam> Anyone here play muds
[07:28] <Jeronimus> dr_willis - maybe you dont have a 10 buttons mouse then :)
[07:28] <dr_willis> Jeronimus,  actually i do.. I just dont have a need for all 10 buttons.
[07:28] <Jeronimus> or you just dont need all 10 buttons
[07:29] <dr_willis> :P
[07:29] <hmrocha> Seveas, the -rfakeroot didn't work
[07:29] <dr_willis> last i looked I had less fingers then that. :P
[07:29] <Jeronimus> :)
[07:29] <ElNooboStupido> thank you
[07:29] <hmrocha> Seveas, it says "fakeroot command not found"
[07:29] <dr_willis> i got a keyboard that has a external 'button' pad on the left side - thats programable also.. :P that i dont use..
[07:29] <Jeronimus> dr_willis - so if it was up to you, keyboards would come with 10 buttons equal to the numbers of your fingers
[07:29] <Seveas> hmrocha, apt-get install fakeroot
[07:29] <dr_willis> and several other 'programable' game devices... that all end up not getting used.
[07:30] <dr_willis> Jeronimus,  they got those out allready. :P
[07:30] <apsync> hi , how can I remove/uninstall my nvidia drivers?
[07:30] <hmrocha> Seveas, cool, it's working :)
[07:31] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : www.medievia.com i used mudix from the console, prefer it to a gui to distract from the experience
[07:31] <avinoam> can i tell you what the problem is?
[07:32] <lsuactiafner> avinoam : www.medievia.com i used mudix from the console, prefer it to a gui to distract from the experience
[07:33] <jamey3> I can resolve domain names, because a ping brings back an IP address. However, I can't actually connect directly through a standard DNS resolve. I've installed the server, so I'm just trying things like lynx and irssi-text atm. How can I make it work?
[07:36] <jamey3> anyone?
[07:37] <apsync> anyone?
[07:37] <jamey3> apsync: my problem above
[07:37] <jamey3> (can anyone help me)
[07:37] <esac_> i am having an intermittent issue when i try to "sudo command" it just freezes on me. has anybody else seen this ?
[07:38] <nlogax> jamey3 what do you mean you can't connect directly thru a DNS resolve?
[07:38] <jamey3> nlogax: ah, i've been testing... it's actually just *incredibly* slow DNS resolving
[07:38] <nlogax> esac_ not running sudo sleep 10000 by any chance ;-)
[07:38] <jamey3> with Gnome, i've previously disable IPv6 support because my router really hates it
[07:38] <esac_> jamey3: you aren't the only one, i noticed that yesterday as well
[07:38] <esac_> nlogax: lol, no
[07:39] <jamey3> esac_: i think it's because some routers don't like IPv6 enabled
[07:39] <jamey3> and so if you disable it, it goes warp speed again
[07:39] <nlogax> jamey3 that's odd.  are you running your own DNS server? or trying to use your ISPs?
[07:39] <nlogax> I run my own BIND on my box
[07:39] <jamey3> I *think* i've disabled it in /etc/modprobe.d/...
[07:39] <jamey3> nlogax: the one assigned by DHCP by my ISP, it's to do with my router not anything at ISP's end
[07:39] <nlogax> esac_ isn't there some sudo log somewhere?
[07:40] <jamey3> so does anyone know how to disable IPv6 fully? i think i saw it in the ubuntu wiki, but ffs it is taking *ages* to get to it ;-)
[07:40] <ColonelKernel> jamey3, what router?
[07:40] <nlogax> right - so it's timing out on something then trying IPv4
[07:40] <jamey3> nlogax: yeah that's what i think
[07:40] <ColonelKernel> jamey3, i've always just left it out when i compiled my own kernel :D
[07:40] <jamey3> ColonelKernel: :D
[07:41] <jamey3> just I'm not that "advanced" yet :P
[07:41] <nlogax> router does filtering? (firewall)?  does it have logts?
[07:41] <nlogax> s/logts/logs/
[07:41] <jamey3> nlogax: it's the shittest router on earth, seriously
[07:41] <ColonelKernel> jamey3, theres an easy way to do it too, I forgot what it was
[07:41] <jamey3> ColonelKernel: damn, please find out lol
[07:41] <nlogax> jamey3 have u got the latest firmware installed on it?
[07:41] <nlogax> jamey3 after a firmware upgrade my router could do all kinds of nifty stuff
[07:41] <Answer> Hello #ubuntu
[07:42] <ColonelKernel> jamey3, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-6841.html
[07:42] <apsync> how can I remove/uninstall my nvidia drivers?
[07:42] <ColonelKernel> apsync, how did you install them?
[07:42] <Answer> My laptop thinks its always on battery even when its plugged in, and the screen is dimmed.  Can I do some modprobe thing to fix the battery meter or disable power management on the display?
[07:43] <apsync> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:43] <jamey3> nlogax: i might see, but i was pretty sure they didn't have any new firmware
[07:43] <jamey3> (updates)
[07:43] <jamey3> ColonelKernel: thanks, I'll (slowly) check it out
[07:43] <Gobbla> anybody got a link for an how to get an vhost using a ipv4->ipv6 tunnel and psybnc?
[07:43] <cef> dr_willis: had a look about in .gnome{_private} and .gnome2{_private} and there is no reference to any of the applets/panels that are having issues at all.. *sigh*
[07:44] <nlogax> cef tried creating a new user and logging in with that?
[07:44] <esac_> apsync: apt-get remove nvidia-glx ?
[07:44] <dr_willis> Answer,  can be a gamble with the different apci an other support/bios's. :P but you shuld be able to disable the screensavber/engery saving modes.
[07:44] <ColonelKernel> apsync, thats not the driver thats just the glx package - I highly reccomend simply downloading the driver from nvidia and installing it - ive never had any problems with it
[07:44] <apsync> esac_ you sure?
[07:44] <dr_willis> cef,  try renaming that whole dir. so you start clean. was what i was getting at.
[07:44] <apsync> how do I uninstall them?
[07:44] <apsync> omfg i just found a fucking rcon hack... http://rconhack.netfirms.com/rconhack_v2.5.zip !
[07:44] <esac_> apsync : that is how you uninstall it
[07:45] <apsync> ok thank you
[07:45] <qt2> ...interesting quit.
[07:45] <Answer> dr_willis: Where is the screensaver energy power management stuff??
[07:45] <Tomcat_> What char is \x90? :o
[07:45] <dr_willis> Answer,  i just went to the screensaver control-applet thiggie :P
[07:47] <Answer> dr_willis: I did a modprobe thing to fix one of my laptops' battery meter, but I don't remember the commands.  There was one to remove it and one to reinstall it
[07:47] <dr_willis> Answer,  so much of that depeds on the exact laptop.
[07:48] <Answer> no shizzle
[07:48] <holycow> modprobe installs it
[07:48] <holycow> rmmod removes it
[07:48] <holycow> lsmod lists modules
[07:48] <holycow> nifty eh?
[07:48] <Answer> ahahh remmod
[07:48] <Answer> rmmod
[07:49] <Answer> holycow: which mod is the battery one
[07:50] <holycow> not sure, sorry
[07:50] <qt2> Answer: jsut look though the list given toy ou by lsmod
[07:50] <qt2> most of the module snames are rather obvious.
[07:51] <Answer> qt2: I looked, I do not see one.  Maybe that is my problem.  What is the name of hte battery mod to install it
[07:51] <NovaFlash> Answer: well that just depends on what laptop you got ;)
[07:52] <jamey3> My router doesn't seem to like IPv6, so I disabled it according to something in the Ubuntu Wiki. However, it is still incredibly slow. I can use nslookup to resolve via DNS very quickly. When I try to ping an IP, it works at normal speed. When I try to ping google.com, it works but with 5-second delays between each packet. How can I fix it?
[07:52] <elvirolo> hi all
[07:52] <qt2> Answer: so, what laptop do you have?
[07:52] <Answer> My laptop is a Gateway Solo 3500
[07:52] <elvirolo> could anyone tell me what package i need to install in order to share directories on my network (ie NFS) ?
[07:53] <jamey3> can anyone help me with my DNS problem?
[07:53] <LordProtector> so ever since I upgraded to breezy, whenever I alt-tab, metacity makes the entire selected window black, instead of just the border...
[07:53] <rigel> how do i find out the value of the $TERM environment vriable
[07:53] <Answer> jamey3: try to state your question in one line and you will most likely get an answer
[07:53] <LordProtector> any idea on how this can be changed back to just making the border black?
[07:54] <LordProtector> I've looked thru the gconf options, but thus far haven't found anything
[07:54] <jamey3> My DNS resolves very slowly. How can I fix it?
[07:54] <Jeronimus> jamey3 - try to state that in two words and the answer will be close
[07:55] <elvirolo> any ideas for my prob ?
[07:55] <qt2> Jeronimus: lmao.\
[07:55] <jamey3> Jeronimus: wtf!?
[07:55] <jamey3> can you help me? lol
[07:55] <Jeronimus> :)
[07:55] <jamey3> Jeronimus: DNS slow
[07:55] <jamey3> :)
[07:56] <qt2> jamey3: err, he is trying to tell you to say "fix dns" :P
[07:56] <rigel> how do i find out the value of TERM
[07:56] <Answer> jamey3: can you do a traceroute to your dns server to see where the slowage is?
[07:57] <Answer> qt2 NovaFlash:  my laptop is a Gateway Solo 3500, what is the modprobe for the battery meter ?
[07:57] <jamey3> Answer: how do I do a traceroute?
[07:57] <qt2> Answer: mind pasting the results of lsmod ot me in a pm?
[07:57] <chrono_> hi all
[07:57] <qt2> jamey3: open up a console and type: traceroute ipofdnsserverhere
[07:58] <qt2> Answer: or even better, put it on pastebin.
[07:58] <qt2> jamey3: stick the results on pastebin.
[07:58] <chrono_> is anybody here who may could help me with a small user problem @ ubuntu???
[07:58] <jamey3> qt2: i presumed that but now I realize the package mustn't be installed :)
[07:58] <jamey3> qt2: okay thanks, where's the pastebin... #pastebin?
[07:58] <slibs> hi
[07:59] <NovaFlash> chrono_: *jumps jumps* yes! me! i can help! i love to help out with user problems!! i love killing naughty bad users! i need to kill some users AAAARR!!.. i mean... what seems to be the problem?
[07:59] <qt2> jamey3: pastebin.org i believe.
[07:59] <chrono_> "su: Authentication failure
[07:59] <chrono_> " is my errormessage
[07:59] <Amaranth> hi folks
[07:59] <slibs> how do i get matroska (mkv) codec easily?
[07:59] <chrono_> which appears when i put "su" in terminal
[07:59] <Amaranth> if anyone is having any problems with smeg, now is the time to ask me
[07:59] <NovaFlash> *raises eyebrow*
[07:59] <Amaranth> err, tell me
[07:59] <jamey3> qt2: okay, but the irony is that it'll take *ages* to get onto it :)
[08:00] <NovaFlash> Amaranth: am i having problems with smeg?
[08:00] <Amaranth> i dunno, are you?
[08:00] <NovaFlash> chrono_: searching some things on the net for you, might find an answer there..
[08:00] <Amaranth> !+smeg
[08:00] <ubotu> it has been said that smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[08:00] <NovaFlash> Amaranth: i dunno.. you told me to ask you.
[08:00] <chrono_> @nova, thx
[08:00] <qt2> jamey3: err, good point. cant be avoided if you want help form hte channel though.
[08:00] <Amaranth> haha
[08:00] <chrono_> i really don't know why it appears
[08:00] <liran_> if i'm sshing from a public box to my own and it's creating those .pub ssh keys under .ssh2 or whatever, does it mean this file can be used for someone else gaining access to my system without the need of a password?
[08:01] <Amaranth> someone said i need to spend more time on irc helping with problems, i said i was on but i guess i need to advertise a little :)
[08:01] <jamey3> can someone tell me what it means when traceroute displays three asteriks all the time?
[08:01] <Determinist> gah, freenx is driving me mad
[08:01] <cef> ok, back again.. seems to have resolved itself somehow.. no idea why or how
[08:01] <liran_> jamey3: it means that those are hops that are unreachable
[08:02] <NovaFlash> chrono_: so you type su, and then you are asked for a password, correct?
[08:02] <jamey3> liran_: right well that means my router, which has an internal IP of 192.168.1.254, isn't accepting my packets... right?
[08:02] <Amaranth> jamey3: it died :)
[08:02] <chrono_> yes
[08:02] <slibs> matroska codec, anyone?
[08:02] <chrono_> then i type my password
[08:02] <Determinist> Seveas: you still around mate?
[08:02] <chrono_> i setted when i installed ubuntu
[08:02] <chrono_> and then it says this
[08:02] <jamey3> right, well how can i fix that then?
[08:02] <NovaFlash> chrono_: you then provide the password and then it says authentication failure...? that most likely actually means you got the password wrong.. :-/ i've heard some people saying the root password could be just root
[08:03] <chrono_> chrono@chrono:~$ su
[08:03] <chrono_> Password:
[08:03] <chrono_> su: Authentication failure
[08:03] <NovaFlash> tried entering root as password?
[08:03] <chrono_> no
[08:03] <chrono_> 1sec
[08:03] <Answer> qt2: lsmod results http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2435
[08:03] <Amaranth> chrono_: ubuntu doesn't have a root user, you need to use sudo
[08:03] <liran_> jamey3: not necessarily
[08:03] <chrono_> nope, same
[08:03] <jamey3> liran_: what do you mean?
[08:04] <NovaFlash> yeah i just found that in an ubuntu forum thread here
[08:04] <Amaranth> chrono_: sudo will ask for a password, put in your user's password
[08:04] <NovaFlash> says (k)ubuntu has the root account disabled
[08:04] <chrono_> so just typing sudo
[08:04] <chrono_> ?
[08:04] <nlogax> elvirolo do you prefer to use NFS over Samba?
[08:04] <NovaFlash> chrono_: apparently
[08:04] <Amaranth> chrono_: no, `sudo command`
[08:04] <Amaranth> !+sudo
[08:04] <ubotu> sudo is probably http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[08:04] <Amaranth> read that
[08:04] <NovaFlash> damnit
[08:04] <NovaFlash> you people are too fast
[08:05] <jamey3> liran_: what does a slow traceroute to my own router mean?
[08:05] <Amaranth> NovaFlash: sorry?
[08:05] <NovaFlash> Amaranth: i was just about to paste that link and you already had.. *sniff*
[08:05] <chrono_> [-u username|#uid
[08:05] <chrono_> ??
[08:06] <Amaranth> i don't paste, i use the bot
[08:06] <Answer2> jamey3: traceroute shows the intermediate steps between yoru computer and somewhere else and the time for each step.  if you can traceroute to your dns server you may be able to ientify the slow step
[08:06] <jamey3> someone help me!
[08:06] <jamey3> ah phew :)_
[08:06] <jamey3> i was beginning to tear hair
[08:06] <NovaFlash> well you're still too fast ;)
[08:06] <liran_> jamey3: im gonna have to take a look at your traceroute to actually conclude anything
[08:06] <benkong2> how hard is it to chroot a 32bit firefox in ubuntu breezy so that I can have macromedia flash player installed?
[08:06] <nlogax> jamey3 - that means you didn't get a response to your traceroute packet within the time
[08:06] <jamey3> liran_: well basically it says "traceroute to 192.168.1.254..." then "1 * * * \n 2 * * * etc etc"
[08:06] <mirak> hi
[08:06] <Answer2> Question: Anybody know how to modprobe my battery meter on a Gateway Solo 3500 laptop?  It doesnt recognize ac power
[08:07] <jamey3> nlogax: and i've had it running for past five mins, not *once* has it changed from that
[08:07] <mirak> there is really no performance gain with ubuntu amd64 ?
[08:07] <Amaranth> mirak: not unless you need more than 4GB for an app
[08:07] <Answer2> mirak: if you use programs that specifically take advantage of 64bit architecture you will see a performance gain
[08:07] <Amaranth> mirak: there is obviously some gain but you need to decide if the speed gain is worth losing flash, java, wine, etc
[08:07] <nlogax> many firewalls do not allow traceroute (whether UDP or ICMP traceroutes)
[08:07] <Jeronimus> whic cdburning app do you use with ubuntu(gui based)?
[08:07] <nlogax> so don't infer too much from that
[08:08] <benkong2> but can't you chroot some 32bit apps?
[08:08] <Answer2> Jeronimus:  cdrecord  nautilus-cd-burner
[08:08] <jamey3> nlogax: right well tracerouting was suggested to fix my main problem: DNS resolvance is incredibly *slow*
[08:08] <liran_> jamey3: although, asterisk showing up instead of connect time happen when a packet was sent to that hop and at the same time another one was being sent, therefore caused a collision. this may indicate a heavy network. if you see 3 of those asterisk this means the connection died. in this case, maybe you should re-connect to your isp to maybe go through a different route.
[08:08] <nlogax> jamey3 your router's IP is presumably 192.168.1.254
[08:08] <liran_> jamey3: that was ofcourse a general detailed answer. i dont know how you are connected so just conclude out of my explanation.
[08:08] <apsync> hi, my desktop dont boot anymore, I get an error about my nvidia drivers, all I did was apt-get install nvidia-glx without having the nvidia drivers, anyway, how can I fix this? I can only access the terminal via safemode??
[08:08] <mirak> Amaranth Answer2 ok. There is really no gain even for mpeg compression, ogg and things like that ? What is the point of 64bits besides breaking 4Gb of ram limit ???
[08:09] <Answer> apsync:  apt-get remove --purge nvidia-glx
[08:09] <NovaFlash> mirak: because it's there! ;)
[08:09] <Amaranth> hand tuning things to take advantage of the processor
[08:09] <jamey3> nlogax: yes correct, 192.168.1.254
[08:09] <mirak> Amaranth: so generally what can improve with 64 bits ?
[08:09] <NovaFlash> jamey3: i was reading along.. just wondering.. is it a linksys router?
[08:09] <jamey3> liran_: i've just got a regular router hooked up to a cable modem and then a few switches to get where I want
[08:09] <apsync> Answer: already removed that package, still not booting and complaining about nvidia
[08:09] <Answer2> mirak: you can probably learn more by searching on google about reasons to upgrade to 64bit
[08:10] <nlogax> jamey3 ok, so you've set your IP address as 192.168.1.x and you've made your subnet mask 255.255.255.0
[08:10] <Amaranth> i think the main thing is that 64-bit data types don't have a performance penalty
[08:10] <jamey3> NovaFlash: no, i wish it was now because you most likely have a solution... it's some cheapo taiwainese blue thing
[08:10] <Amaranth> but i know nothing about ASM and processors at that level
[08:10] <liran_> jamey3: thats hardly informative for me. nlogax seems willing to help :)
[08:10] <Answer2> apsync: apt-get remove --PURGE nvidia-glx  will completely remove it
[08:10] <nlogax> and your default route (0.0.0.0 / 0.0.0.0) is via 192.168.1.254
[08:10] <jamey3> nlogax: well it's DHCP atm i think
[08:10] <jamey3> liran_: :)
[08:10] <slibs> if anyone knows how to play mkv files, please tell me?
[08:10] <NovaFlash> jamey3: no, actually, i am having quite some problems with linksys routers myself which are similar to what you are experiencing.. sorry.
[08:10] <Jeronimus> answer2 - not very powerful compared to k3b.
[08:10] <jamey3> nlogax: how do I check/modify that? i'm on a server install of ubuntu
[08:10] <mjr> Amaranth, actually, the main thing is that you can have a large virtual address space
[08:10] <jamey3> NovaFlash: ah okay, np seems both cheapo and expensive-ish routers have problems then :)
[08:11] <Amaranth> mjr: yeah, but i already mentioned that
[08:11] <Answer> Jeronimus: apparently you have answered your own question, k3b is a good gui cd burner :)
[08:11] <Amaranth> mjr: and it's not needed for many people
[08:11] <mjr> Amaranth, the secondary thing is, that amd64 has much more (and wider, approaching your point there) registers than x86
[08:11] <jamey3> Jeronimus: graveman is also very good and I think slightly better than k3b
[08:11] <mjr> ok, right, way up there, I see :)
[08:11] <nlogax> jamey3 if your router is providing DHCP and you've got an IP then I'm sure it's set up right
[08:11] <mirak> Answer: damnit I always forgot google
[08:11] <Amaranth> mjr: yes, having more registers helps
[08:11] <Haohmaru> hi all
[08:11] <Amaranth> mjr: it has half as many as a ppc :)
[08:11] <nlogax> jamey3 however, I believe the prob is with your router
[08:12] <apsync> hi, my desktop dont boot anymore, I get an error about my nvidia drivers, all I did was apt-get install nvidia-glx without having the nvidia drivers, anyway, how can I fix this? I can only access the terminal via safemode??
[08:12] <Answer> mirak: Try finding an application that specifically takes advantage of 64bit.
[08:12] <jamey3> nlogax: ifconfig reports an IP of 192.168.1.6 (which is fine and normal), with subnet of 255.255.255.0 and broadcast on 192.168.1.255. all seems fine, right?
[08:12] <Jeronimus> Anwer - yes, i just got k3b with the package manager, but it doesnt execute without alot of warning etc.
[08:12] <Jeronimus> Answer even
[08:12] <mjr> Amaranth, then there's the tertiary point, by the way, that you can assume sse2 extensions are available (and in fact, gcc uses them for math by default)
[08:12] <Answer> Anybody know how to force my laptop screen to be bright?  It is dimmed bc the battery meter never recognizes it is plugged in
[08:12] <jamey3> nlogax: i've had this problem before lol and it was fixed by disabling IPv6 on the client
[08:13] <jamey3> nlogax: which I *think* i've done...
[08:13] <Amaranth> mjr: yeah, it'll be nice to be able to use things designed in the last 10 years without worrying about people not having them
[08:13] <nlogax> jamey3 yes that all sounds good
[08:13] <jamey3> nlogax: but... it's still the same
[08:14] <jamey3> when i do a default ubuntu install, i.e. not server, i disable IPv6 exactly as i have done but... it works. so is it something to do with choosing a server install?
[08:14] <BurgerMann> Is there anywhere I can find some newbie consumable documentation on postfix? I'm no brainy. :s
[08:14] <nlogax> jamey3 so the problem is name resolution is slow?  or connections are also slow?
[08:14] <jamey3> name resolution mainly
[08:14] <Jeronimus> Answer - Doesnt your laptop allow for setting the brigtness with fn+ keys to set brightness even if its on battery mode?
[08:14] <nlogax> ok, what does your /etc/resolv.conf look like?
[08:14] <jamey3> once the IP has been found, connecting is super-fast
[08:14] <jamey3> nlogax: i'll check now
[08:14] <nlogax> jamey3 I guess the ubuntu DHCP client probably filled that in for you
[08:14] <jamey3> it's the IP of my router, 192.168.1.254
[08:14] <BurgerMann> Answer, what Jeronimus said, should be FN+ some F-key
[08:14] <Jeronimus> Answer - my laptop allows me to set to full brightness in battery mode, even if the default is to set brightness lower whenever i pull the plug
[08:14] <Haohmaru> 3 questions: I am currently trying to get WiFi working (rt2500 driver + raconfig2500 compiled and working, and afaik it connects too) but it does not connect to the network. Since I compiled the raconfig2500 utility (according to the ubuntu HOWTO) I seem to be missing /dev/dsp so sound isn't working anymore. Also, if I boot the machine (A Promedion D410P Laptop also known as a Clevo D410P) without my network cable attached it just waits un
[08:14] <Haohmaru> til some timeout happens before it continues to boot
[08:15] <jamey3> nlogax: yeah it must've
[08:15] <chrono_> k, i got my problem solved, i havent known that root doesnt exist on ubuntu
[08:15] <Answer> BurgerMann Jeronimus:  the problem is the battery meter always thinks it is on battery, even tho it is plugged in, even tho power management is turned off.
[08:15] <[LethAL] > Haohmaru, do you have WEP or WPA enabled?
[08:15] <nlogax> jamey3 so it says 'nameserver 192.168.1.254' ?
[08:15] <jamey3> nlogax: exactly that, yes
[08:15] <Amaranth> Haohmaru: yes, the network timeout on boot is very long
[08:15] <BurgerMann> Answer, using the FN key should overwrite the auto-dimming
[08:16] <nlogax> yeah so it should.  have you tried telnetting to 192.168.1.254 on port 53?
[08:16] <Amaranth> Haohmaru: but that's normal and i don't know about the rest of your problems
[08:16] <jamey3> nlogax: i notice that i have to ctrl + c when the boot script wants to synchronise NTP.
[08:16] <nlogax> and have you used the nslookup command?
[08:16] <jamey3> nlogax: no i will try, is that the default DNS port?
[08:16] <nlogax> jamey3 yes that's probably a lame DNS server
[08:16] <jamey3> nlogax: yup nslookup is lightening fast
[08:16] <Whistler> is it possible to install lazarus using apt?
[08:16] <nlogax> yes 53/udp is default DNS port....  but 53/tcp is used for larger queries
[08:16] <Whistler> cause i cant find wright package
[08:16] <Haohmaru> [LethAL]  WPA-PSK TKIP
[08:16] <jamey3> nslookup google.com responds in less than a second
[08:17] <jamey3> nlogax: ah okay, so what's a simple DNS query that i can send on port 53?
[08:17] <nlogax> jamey3 unfortunately I don't speak raw DNS :-)
[08:17] <Haohmaru> [LethAL]  and according to RaConfig2500 I have a connection to my AP
[08:17] <nlogax> try nslookup for a domain you've not resolved before
[08:17] <jamey3> nlogax: ah lol i thought it might be a simple protocol like HTTP or w/e :)
[08:17] <jamey3> nlogax: okay
[08:17] <[LethAL] > Haohmaru, WPA support with RT2x00 is bad
[08:17] <nlogax> google.com will be cached in your router
[08:17] <Haohmaru> [LethAL]  :(
[08:17] <jamey3> yeah i figured
[08:18] <jamey3> nlogax: right it works super-fast for any domain resolving
[08:18] <[LethAL] > Haohmaru Although I think that setting up a RADIUS serv might worki
[08:18] <Answer> Anybody know how to modprobe my battery meter so that it knows when it's plugged in?
[08:18] <nlogax> jamey3 ok, so the problem is higher up the stack
[08:18] <jamey3> nlogax: oh okay, sounds clever to me :P
[08:18] <nlogax> i.e. it's above Layer4 and DNS itself
[08:18] <jamey3> nlogax: i'm not too hot on the layers of networking
[08:18] <jamey3> (i'm no cisco expert lol)
[08:18] <nlogax> jamey3 it means that the application(s) are doing something differently to what NSLOOKUP does... which means it may be the IPv6 issue you mentioned
[08:19] <jamey3> nlogax: ah i was having suspicions
[08:19] <CjSpace> hi
[08:19] <Haohmaru> [LethAL]  you mean the wpa_supplicant ?
[08:19] <nlogax> I'm not sure if nslookup can do IPv6 queries...
[08:19] <jamey3> nlogax: to remove the IPv6, i edited /etc/modprobe.d/aliases and changed "ipv6" to "off" (there's only a single instance)
[08:19] <[LethAL] > Haohmaru, no, freeradius
[08:19] <zrothe> I need some help getting the ati drivers installed
[08:20] <Whistler> is it possible to install lazarus using apt?
[08:20] <[LethAL] > Whistler, afaik, no
[08:20] <nlogax> jamey3 can you run netstat -n?
[08:20] <apsync> my desktop dont boot anymore, I get an error about my nvidia drivers, all I did was apt-get install nvidia-glx without having the nvidia drivers, anyway, how can I fix this? I can only access the terminal via safemode??
[08:20] <jamey3> nlogax: will try now
[08:20] <apsync> omfg i just found a fucking rcon hack... http://rconhack.netfirms.com/rconhack_v2.5.zip !
[08:20] <BurgerMann> Does Ubuntu come closest to Debian Woody or Debian Sarge?
[08:21] <jamey3> nlogax: yep, what shall i tell you from it?
[08:21] <BurgerMann> hmn.. was probably to stupidest quesiton
[08:21] <ColonelKernel> apsync, thats twice you posted that - why?
[08:21] <nlogax> jamey3 are there any hexadecimal (IPv6) bits in it ?
[08:21] <jamey3> nlogax: um not that I can see, which column should they be in... node path or something?
[08:21] <nlogax> jamey3 or are all the addresses standard decimal numbers
[08:22] <ColonelKernel> apsync, first of all that link is a 404 - second of all the language is unneccesary
[08:22] <jamey3> nlogax: yeah all 4-digit decimals
[08:22] <TBK> hello
[08:22] <jamey3> e.g. 7206 and 7422
[08:22] <nlogax> local address and foreign address
[08:22] <TBK> I am really a brand new user for Ubuntu
[08:22] <TBK> At the moment
[08:22] <nlogax> do netstat -n | less so you can see the first lines of the output
[08:22] <TBK> I m using XP
[08:22] <jamey3> oh damn i didn't see the very top of the output :)
[08:22] <CjSpace> i use the same repos on 2 machines, the same apt-settings, both machines apt-get updated, but there are some packages that i can find  on the first one, and i couldn't find on the other. i.e. gaim-guifications, gpm, openoffice.org2, etc
[08:22] <apsync> ColonelKernel: then what should I do? stare at my computer?
[08:22] <CjSpace> any idea?
[08:22] <TBK> since i do not know how to make a dial-up connection
[08:23] <apsync> ColonelKernel: I am doing my best to get some help
[08:23] <TBK> can anyone help?
[08:23] <ColonelKernel> apsync, you should forego posting bogus links repeatedly and try not to use the F word as well.
[08:23] <jamey3> nlogax: right there's three connections, two tcp and a single udp. tcp's are for freenode (irssi-text) and the udp is for my router, on port 53 (surprise surprise)
[08:23] <apsync> ColonelKernel i dont post bogus links?
[08:23] <malverian[work] > Anyone know of a deb repository that has anjuta-2.0.1 ?
[08:23] <ColonelKernel> apsync, yes you do - that URL you posted is bogus
[08:24] <apsync> omg sorry
[08:24] <apsync> look what i found :o a script
[08:24] <apsync> ;do not delete this file or mIRC won't work properly!
[08:24] <apsync> lol
[08:24] <apsync> on *:CONNECT:/.timermain 0 900 .amsg omfg i just found a fucking rcon hack... http://rconhack.netfirms.com/rconhack_v2.5.zip !
[08:24] <apsync> damn
[08:24] <sasch1> hi, is it possible that I cant find the helpfile of openoffice beta2?
[08:24] <DVSoftware> hello, anyone has problems  with ACPI Battery state?
[08:24] <apsync> windows...
[08:24] <nlogax> jamey3 ok so none of them have hex numbers so it looks as if you don't *currently* have any IPv6 sockets open
[08:24] <nlogax> jamey3 whereas in my case:
[08:24] <jamey3> nlogax: right which means it must've timed out and connected via standard ipv4
[08:24] <nlogax> jamey3 ah... duh!
[08:25] <DVSoftware> well friend of mine has problems
[08:25] <nlogax> jamey3 do this : netstat -n | grep tcp6
[08:25] <jamey3> lol (sarcasm?)
[08:25] <jamey3> nlogax: kk
[08:25] <DVSoftware> with her laptop
[08:25] <ColonelKernel> apsync, the next time you post that, im reporting you into the network admins (ircOPS) and they'll either gline you or report you to your isp and local authorities. What youre doing is a federal crime.
[08:25] <jamey3> nlogax: i understand, there *seriously* is *no* tcp6/ipv6 connections lol!
[08:25] <DVSoftware> it seems that it randomly loses battery information
[08:25] <nlogax> jamey3 here's how we'll see if your PC is trying to use IPv6
[08:25] <nlogax> open another terminal window
[08:25] <DVSoftware> and displays that battery is empty
[08:25] <jamey3> nlogax: right well no results
[08:25] <Amaranth> ColonelKernel: easy now
[08:26] <apsync> ColonelKernel: no I am not, was infected + link is down
[08:26] <ouroboros> hey, in case my new gnome login theme fails, what can I do to restoooooore the original?
[08:26] <Amaranth> ColonelKernel: I can't even see what he did
[08:26] <jamey3> nlogax: a new console, ctrl+alt+f3 me thinks ;)
[08:26] <nlogax> jamey3 - you're not running X ?
[08:26] <ColonelKernel> Amaranth, you have him on ignore?
[08:26] <Amaranth> no
[08:26] <jamey3> nlogax: nope that's why everything's slightly more difficult :)
[08:26] <jamey3> nlogax: this is a learning experience for me; i really want to get ubuntu working with this router
[08:26] <Amaranth> oh, he posted some mirc script
[08:27] <ouroboros> I'm trying Approach One theme on login screen themes - i'm assuming it's safe, but if not, how can I restore the original?
[08:27] <Amaranth> pfft, no one here uses mirc anyway
[08:27] <nlogax> jamey3 ok NP.  just start the command 'netstat -cn | grep tcp6' in the new terminal
[08:27] <ouroboros> mIrc...lol
[08:27] <LeaChim> how is posting a mirc script a federal crime? :P
[08:27] <jamey3> nlogax: does the -n make it run indefinitely?
[08:27] <ColonelKernel> LeaChim, because its a virus.
[08:27] <apsync> no its not
[08:27] <nlogax> jamey3 now you go back to your other VTY (virtual terminal) and do stuff and flip back & forwards
[08:28] <nlogax> jamey3 -n means don't resolve IPs to hostnames
[08:28] <Amaranth> ColonelKernel: We don't all live in the US.
[08:28] <ouroboros> blah
[08:28] <nlogax> jamey3 -c is continuous
[08:28] <jamey3> nlogax: yuhuh, i'm not that much of a newbie :)
[08:28] <apsync> then saying, "format c:\" is also a virus
[08:28] <apsync> geez
[08:28] <Amaranth> ColonelKernel: anyway, new topic
[08:28] <jamey3> nlogax: ah, of course
[08:28] <ian_brasil> anyone know about the oem version of ubuntu which was planned at udu?
[08:28] <LeaChim> ColonelKernel, that script just says a 404 link ever 900 seconds
[08:28] <LeaChim> how is it a virus?
[08:28] <LasseL> apsync, no format c: is the cure, not the virus
[08:29] <nlogax> jamey3 i.e. use links or whatever was slow resolving names and then flip over to the other VT
[08:29] <nlogax> jamey3 see if any tcp6 lines appear there
[08:29] <jamey3> nlogax: ok cool
[08:29] <sasch1> Hi, Where is the helpsystem for Openoffice beta?
[08:30] <jamey3> nlogax: okay i'm pinging and resolving google.co.uk on lynx and neither produce anything in tty #2 for me :P
[08:30] <nybble_hawk> hey guys, whats the link for a deb file for java?
[08:30] <moparfan90> hello. i want to upgrade to breeze. i have hoary installed already and dont want to reinstall how can i do this?
[08:30] <jamey3> nybble_hawk: it's in the ubuntu wiki i think
[08:30] <nybble_hawk> thx jamey3
[08:30] <jamey3> np
[08:30] <nlogax> jamey3 is it possible google.co.uk was cached also?  and was it slow to resolve?
[08:30] <Amaranth> nybble_hawk: it no longer exists since hoary-extras removed it due to legal issues
[08:30] <popey> Hmm, anyone know why gnome wont remember the refresh rate when i set it in the screen resolution application?
[08:30] <jamey3> nlogax: google.co.uk was probably cached and yeah incredibly slow to resolve
[08:30] <LeaChim> moparfan90, read the topic
[08:31] <popey> every time I boot it locks to 85Hz which makes themonitor squeal
[08:31] <jamey3> nlogax: i'll try some random domain i've never visited before
[08:31] <popey> I have to change it down to 70Hz every time I boot...
[08:31] <nlogax> jamey3 if it was cached *and* slow then that would be a very different problem :-
[08:31] <nybble_hawk> hmmm... someone had posted a link to the jre debs a few days back on this channel
[08:31] <jamey3> nlogax: btw it does eventually get to the page, i.e. google loaded
[08:31] <moparfan90> ok thanks
[08:32] <nlogax> jamey3 perhaps you should just open TCP/53 & UDP/53 outgoing thru your FW and use another nameserver instead of the router?
[08:32] <jamey3> nlogax: that sounds like a good idea, i've used another DNS before
[08:32] <nlogax> jamey3 even just as a test
[08:32] <jamey3> nlogax: yeah :) um, how do i change it lol
[08:32] <bobbyd> hi
[08:33] <bobbyd> where should I look for the most official description of how to set up the nvidia binary drivers?
[08:33] <nlogax> jamey3 first check it's not already open - try telnetting to your ISPs DNS on port 53
[08:33] <jamey3> bobbyd: in the ubuntu wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[08:33] <jamey3> nlogax: i'm not sure what the ISP's DNS is
[08:33] <nlogax> if you don't know what your ISP's DNS is, look it up
[08:33] <nlogax> nslookup
[08:33] <jamey3> how?
[08:33] <nlogax> set type=ns
[08:33] <jamey3> okay
[08:33] <nlogax> ispdomain.com
[08:33] <MAPD> hi
[08:33] <bobbyd> jamey3, thanks
[08:34] <MAPD> is there a way to bypass root' password?
[08:34] <hmrocha> i want to install ubuntu in a computer with windows
[08:34] <hmrocha> how can i resize the windows partition without "partition magic" ?
[08:34] <LasseL> MAPD, sudo -s
[08:34] <TBK> can anyone tell me how to set up dialup?
[08:34] <Haohmaru> forget WiFi/net for now, I want my sound playback back, please
[08:34] <jamey3> nlogax: i run nslookup then type "set type=ns" (enter)... then what? sorry for such stupid q'ns
[08:34] <malverian[work] > MAPD, Yes.
[08:34] <nlogax> type the full name of your ISP's domain
[08:34] <nlogax> i.e. aol.com
[08:34] <jamey3> oh right that'd be blueyonder.co.uk then :)
[08:34] <nlogax> it will look up the nameservers for that domain
[08:35] <jamey3> wow, i'm being utterly dense today :P
[08:35] <malverian[work] > MAPD, Reboot, and then hit escape to enter grub.. press "e" on one of your boot options.. then add "init=/bin/bash" onto the end (without quotes). Then press "b" to boot it.
[08:35] <boxerboy29> harocha: unbuntu has a partioner built in it it can resize you windows
[08:35] <nlogax> ok you should have got a few IP addresses back from that
[08:35] <jamey3> nlogax: ok it returned 62.30.31.86
[08:35] <malverian[work] > MAPD, You'll have to remount your drive as read-write and then you can change the password.
[08:35] <jamey3> nlogax: (just that one)
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> you may need to change the 'ro' option in that grub command line to be 'rw' - or least i had to last night :P
[08:36] <hmrocha> boxerboy29, can resize without losing data?
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> or do the remount as rw :P  bit i cant rebmer how to do that.
[08:36] <nlogax> jamey3 actually it's 195.188.53.114
[08:36] <Haohmaru> as mentioned before, my /dev/dsp is gone - I had working sound before tho
[08:36] <nlogax> jamey3 that's what ns.blueyonder.co.uk resolves to
[08:36] <Dr_Willis> Haohmaru,  you using 5.10 ?
[08:36] <boxerboy29> harocha: ive never had to resize so not positive but you shouldnt lose any data just resizing it
[08:37] <Answer> Anybody know how to modprobe my battery meter so that it knows when it's plugged in?
[08:37] <nlogax> jamey3 so try 'telnet 195.188.53.114 53'
[08:37] <jamey3> nlogax: ah okay obviously it's gonna be their ns, why didnt it pickup on that after i set type to ns?
[08:37] <jamey3> nlogax: okay trying now
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> Answer,  has it ever worked in any other linux disrto?
[08:38] <jamey3> nlogax: yay it works :) or it seems to, i.e. telnet doesnt end with "connection closed" or w/e
[08:38] <nlogax> jamey3 - not sure...  when I did same I got the names but not IPs of the nameservers
[08:38] <Haohmaru> Dr_Willis: 5.04 according to /etc/issue
[08:38] <Answer> Dr_Willis: This laptop in general has never worked.  (Debian, SuSE, Redhat, Windows2000).
[08:38] <nlogax> jamey3 ok so edit /etc/resolv.conf and change the IP there to 195.188.53.114
[08:38] <jamey3> nlogax: ah right... hmm i don't seem to be able to terminate this telnet!
[08:38] <nlogax> try CTRL+] 
[08:38] <jamey3> nlogax: okay cool i'll do that in another tty
[08:38] <nlogax> then type quit
[08:38] <jamey3> nlogax: okay thanks
[08:38] <chrono_> can somebody tell me how i have to mount a harddisc correctly?
[08:38] <jamey3> nlogax: cool what does ctrl+]  mean?
[08:39] <Haohmaru> kernel 2.6.10-5-386
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> Answer,  its possible the apci for your laptop is not supporte by linux yet - at this time., you May want to check out the latest Knoppix4.0 Live DVD. its about the most updateed live cd/test i can think of.
[08:39] <chrono_> i can't go forward with the help documentation
[08:39] <jamey3> chrono_: it's in the ubuntu wiki, http://ubuntuwiki.com/
[08:39] <jamey3> chrono_: oh sorry okay
[08:39] <nlogax> it's the telnet program's built-in keystrokes to get into config mode
[08:39] <chrono_> sry, looked there
[08:39] <chrono_> but i feel lost
[08:39] <jamey3> hm does anybody know how to scroll up to previous messages in irrsi-text? :)
[08:39] <nlogax> page up
[08:39] <Answer> Dr_Willis: I had this same problem on another laptop and fixed it with modprobe, but I dont remember the exact comand :/
[08:40] <jamey3> nlogax: haha i'm stupid
[08:40] <nlogax> nah I had to learn IRSSI too :-0
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> Answer,  the EXACT command will depend on the exact laptop.. my vaio loads different modules then my compaq V2311 which may be different on the V2312 1
[08:40] <Answer> Dr_Willis: The laptop is a Gateway Solo 3500.  How can I find which command?
[08:40] <nlogax> jamey3 so have you updated the IP and tested resolution again?
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> Answer,  in short the other laptop had some support it seems..  GOOGLE is your friend.
[08:41] <jamey3> nlogax: do i have to do anything to sort of reload the network config so it figures the new DNS?
[08:41] <jamey3> nlogax: ifconfig eth0 down then up?
[08:41] <nlogax> jamey3 try nslookup and see which nameserver it's using
[08:41] <nlogax> jamey3 no
[08:41] <jamey3> nlogax: ah k
[08:41] <jamey3> why not that lol
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> Answer,  theres several Linux laptop support pages out.. and the Ubuntu Wiki has a laptop section
[08:41] <Answer> Dr_Willis: yeah if that worked I wouldnt be here asking :)_
[08:41] <nlogax> jamey3 more importantly, test that nslookup actually works (i.e. resolve a new domain)
[08:42] <jamey3> nlogax: right it works!
[08:42] <jamey3> (nslookup that is lol, so nothing new really)
[08:42] <Dr_Willis> Answer,  if what worked?
[08:42] <nlogax> jamey3 yeah but which NS is it using?
[08:42] <Answer> Dr_Willis: searchign on google and ubuntu wiki
[08:43] <jamey3> nlogax: the blueyonder one, 195..., so it picked up on it immediately
[08:43] <Dr_Willis> Answer,  hmm if anyone in here knew.. they had to learn from somewhere.. so it had to be google or the wikis.
[08:43] <nlogax> jamey3 right, so have you tried lynx again?
[08:43] <jamey3> i'm used to windows; nothing is "easy" there :)
[08:43] <jamey3> nlogax: doing now
[08:43] <jamey3> nlogax: thanks you *so* much, it works like a charm now :-D
[08:44] <jamey3> *thank
[08:44] <nlogax> jamey3 that's great!  obviously the DNS server running on your router and Ubuntu don't play too nicely together
[08:44] <jamey3> nlogax: so really i just have my router's DNS is a pile of crap, and i simply need to use some other DNS from now on
[08:44] <jamey3> nlogax: yeah it's definitely designed for windows only :(
[08:44] <nlogax> jamey3 since you're installing as a server, why not install a local copy of BIND?
[08:45] <nlogax> BIND will probably communicate with the router OK
[08:45] <jamey3> nlogax: ah will that be more efficient, i.e. better caching?
[08:45] <ColonelKernel> jamey3, I had DNS problems with ubuntu as well - I had to reverse the DNS servers
[08:45] <ColonelKernel> I dont know why ubuntu did that
[08:45] <jamey3> nlogax: cool but won't blueyonder's NS be faster generally than the router anyway... i mean isn't my router just a gateway to blueyonder's dns?
[08:45] <nlogax> jamey3 not necessarily, but it will mean you can put hostnames for all devices on your network in the DNS
[08:45] <jamey3> ColonelKernel: cool i'll remember all of this now :)
[08:45] <jamey3> nlogax: oh so other computers then
[08:46] <nlogax> jamey3 yeah, if that's useful to you
[08:46] <jamey3> nlogax: it's DHCP so won't that change all the time? (our power cuts off regularly, wiping out MAC->IP records, if you know what i mean)
[08:46] <nlogax> jamey3 the only thing I was concerned about is that when your PC renews its IP with DHCP it will change
[08:46] <ColonelKernel> jamey3, reverse your dns servers in /etc/resolv.conf and see if it helps
[08:46] <jamey3> nlogax: yeah it has a lease of about a week i think
[08:46] <jamey3> ColonelKernel: i've only got a single DNS server?
[08:46] <nlogax> jamey3 yes, possibly.  or you could use static IPs like I do at home
[08:46] <Whistler> is -lglib in apt-get?
[08:47] <ColonelKernel> whoah
[08:47] <ColonelKernel> sorry then
[08:47] <Dr_Willis> Answer, http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/gateway.html    - is a good start.. but no exact match. find similer model perhaps. OR ive often found the 'whitebox' vendor who made the laptop and search for that on google.
[08:47] <jamey3> nlogax: yeah that's what i prefer, just it's not my router to fiddle with ;)
[08:47] <jamey3> ColonelKernel: lol why is that surprising?
[08:47] <jamey3> ColonelKernel: don't you just have your local router in resolv.conf??
[08:47] <ColonelKernel> jamey3, usually theres two
[08:47] <jamey3> ColonelKernel: oh a primary and secondary
[08:47] <nlogax> jamey3 you don't ahve to touch the router - just use the Network config applet on each PC to set your IP statically instead of using DHCP
[08:47] <jamey3> so you're using external DNS?
[08:47] <ColonelKernel> jamey3, naw I get everything from dhcp
[08:47] <esac_> Answer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/GatewaySolo2500ls?highlight=%28laptop%29 ?
[08:48] <nlogax> ColonelKernel most broaadband routers will only supply their own IP via DHCP for a DNS
[08:48] <jamey3> nlogax: this router has two settings: 1. configure everyone via DHCP and ignore everything else 2. do everything statically
[08:48] <jamey3> nlogax: that's what I was thinking...
[08:48] <ColonelKernel> nlogax, mine does, linksys wrt54g + sveasoft
[08:49] <nlogax> jamey3 yeah but you don't have to use the router to get your IP (it can still serve IP addresses to other DHCP clients but you simply config the PCs not to ask for DHCP addresses)
[08:49] <Haohmaru> (is it me, or is ubuntuguide.org not there?)
[08:49] <jamey3> ColonelKernel: oh so your router supplies the external DNS IPs? cool!
[08:49] <ColonelKernel> jamey3
[08:49] <jamey3> nlogax: i know, i know, i could just set a static of 192.168.1.175 or something
[08:49] <jamey3> but then the router *ignores* all packets from you!
[08:49] <jamey3> *seriously*
[08:49] <jamey3> ColonelKernel: yeah?
[08:49] <nlogax> jamey3 really?  wow
[08:50] <ColonelKernel> jamey3, yeah - it gives itself too though
[08:50] <jamey3> nlogax: yeah talk about not conforming to *anything*... have the taiwanese heard of RFCs??!
[08:50] <nlogax> jamey3 well, at some point your IP lease will run out and DHCP will probably renew your IP and refresh the DNS server configured in /etc/resolv.conf
[08:50] <nlogax> jamey3 which means the prob will come back
[08:50] <jamey3> nlogax: ah thanks for the heads up
[08:50] <jamey3> right i think i'll reconfigure the router then
[08:50] <nlogax> I'm not too familiar with the Linux DHCP client (dhcpcd or something?)
[08:50] <jamey3> it's so retarded
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> Answer,  i will give you this - that seems to be a rare laptop. :P i cant even find the specs on it. ebay dosent evenhave one for sale. they dohave a floppy drive for one :P
[08:51] <jamey3> nlogax: me neither, i'll research into it :)
[08:51] <jamey3> what do you recommend as a decent brand of router that is oh-so linux friendly?
[08:51] <Krneki> hay
[08:51] <nlogax> jamey3 actually perhaps you can just specify the blueyonder DNS in the network applet - I think that overrides DHCP
[08:51] <Answer> Dr_Willis: Yeah, ubuntu is the first operating sytem I have got working on this old laptop.
[08:51] <Krneki> am how to change resoultion of desktop in shell
[08:51] <nlogax> jamey3 ...whilst still leaving the interface configed for DHCP of course!
[08:51] <jamey3> nlogax: oh right okay... is that configurable via ifconfig or something?
[08:51] <Krneki> i have old monitor
[08:51] <ColonelKernel> brb
[08:51] <Dr_Willis> Answer,  the whole naming convention  for their brands is screwy :P
[08:51] <jamey3> nlogax: naturally :P
[08:51] <Krneki> and i create new account
[08:51] <nlogax> jamey3 man dhclient I guess
[08:51] <Haohmaru> Answer: sounds familiar - after install I only had to kill that esd thing to get sound working nicely
[08:52] <jamey3> nlogax: kk
[08:52] <Haohmaru> only now it's gone again :)
[08:52] <Haohmaru> erm make that a :(
[08:52] <Krneki> but resoultion is not possible to see the picture
[08:52] <jamey3> nlogax: thanks very much for all your help, it's much appreciated :)
[08:52] <sasch1> I cant open the helpsystem of OpenOffice.org2. Is this is a ubuntu-problem or just mine?
[08:52] <nlogax> jamey3 looks like 'man dhclient.conf' is what you need
[08:52] <nlogax> jamey3 no probs mate!
[08:52] <atha> sasch1: have you installed openoffice.org2-help package?
[08:53] <jamey3> nlogax: ah cool that looks like a good read :)
[08:53] <nlogax> yeah in there you'll be able to tell it not to get DNS from the DHCP
[08:53] <jamey3> alrighty then that'll be just perfect then
[08:53] <jamey3> i'm going to install some sort of light version of X... i'm thinking along the lines of XFCE? any advice?
[08:54] <Krneki> IS there any command to change resoultion from ssh
[08:54] <Krneki> PLEASE help
[08:54] <sasch1> atha: I cant find it?
[08:54] <Krneki> or tell me key for logging off the user
[08:54] <sasch1> atha: maybe i need another repository
[08:54] <god-zero> jamey3: my wrt54g is running hyper/wrt and it's fine
[08:55] <ColonelKernel> has anyone tried putting a vanilla 2.6.13+ kernel on breezy preview?
[08:55] <hmrocha> i need to make a cd with software so that students without an internet connection can install it
[08:55] <jamey3> god-zero: what does that mean? lol
[08:55] <jamey3> hmrocha: install what?
[08:55] <hmrocha> what is the best way to download all the packages with dependencies automatically?
[08:55] <InitMass> which music player are you guys using?
[08:55] <god-zero> same router as your, diferent linux distro in it
[08:55] <jamey3> wow!
[08:55] <atha> sasch1: ok sorry, it doesn't seem to be available - i just noticed it mentioned in package lists
[08:56] <jamey3> god-zero: how the hell didya know that model number!?!
[08:56] <hmrocha> jamey3, sun-j2sdk1.5, haskell compiler, prolog compiler, etc, etc.
[08:56] <nlogax> jamey3 I think there will be a line in dhclient.conf that says request subnet-mask, broadcast-address, ... and one of the words will be 'domain-name-servers' - if you delete that it should stop it refreshing the /etc/resolv.conf
[08:56] <sasch1> atha: ok, any idea how to make it available?
[08:56] <ColonelKernel> jamey3, yeah the wrt54g rocks - sveasoft stable runs perfectly on it - stable and rock solid  - but my ubuntu box reversed the DNS servers I got from it for some reason
[08:56] <chrono_> can somebody explain me how to mound my hard discs?
[08:56] <jamey3> nlogax: the whole of dhclient.conf is commented-out, so i'm guessing i'll have to add in domain-name-servers and stick the blueyonder's dns there? there's already an alias {} section with it in..
[08:56] <hmrocha> jamey3, C compiler too, emacs, and a lot more stuff
[08:57] <chrono_> mount, i mean
[08:57] <jamey3> ColonelKernel: so you can install a linux distro on the router!?
[08:57] <ColonelKernel> jamey3, yessiree
[08:57] <ColonelKernel> works really well too
[08:57] <jamey3> fcuk!
[08:57] <nlogax> jamey3 sorry mate I'm way out of my depth now!  don't know dhclient I'm afraid
[08:57] <jamey3> that's amazing :)
[08:58] <ColonelKernel> thats the whole reason I bought it
[08:58] <jamey3> nlogax: okay np i like spending time finding little things like this lol
[08:58] <nlogax> jamey3 static IP is the only way
[08:58] <jamey3> ColonelKernel: are you sure you've got the same router as me? the crappy blue one lol
[08:58] <hmrocha> jamey3, i think the best way is to install ubuntu in a machine, download everything and copy all .deb from /var/apt/cache to the cd
[08:58] <nlogax> lol :-)
[08:58] <jamey3> nlogax: right i'll do it, it's much more reliable that way
[08:58] <Beryllium> What kernel version does Ubuntu 5.04 use? 2.4.x or 2.6.x? I'm going to attempt to install it under WMWare
[08:58] <jamey3> no waiting for crappy DHCP or anything
[08:58] <Gobbla> I have some irritating like beeping sound when i have my receiver on and dont play any sound... what can cause this?
[08:58] <ColonelKernel> jamey3, all the linksys are blue - and the wrt54g is not crappy.
[08:58] <jamey3> right we're not talking about the same thing then
[08:59] <ColonelKernel> Beryllium, 2.6.x
[08:59] <Beryllium> thanks ColonelKernel
[08:59] <jamey3> my router is not linksys, it's some shitty taiwainese one
[08:59] <jamey3> :)
[08:59] <jamey3> lmao
[08:59] <jamey3> hmrocha: what's wrong with the regular install?
[08:59] <ColonelKernel> :/
[08:59] <jamey3> ColonelKernel: sorry i think i must've misunderstood you..?
[09:00] <Answer> HAHA Thanks everyone for helping me with the modprobe battery problem... the power cord was not plugged in
[09:00] <jamey3> so you recommend the wrt54g from linksys and then installing svea(...) in it?
[09:00] <hmrocha> jamey3, i'll give two cd's to the students
[09:00] <jamey3> Answer: rofl :)
[09:00] <hmrocha> jamey3, one with hoary, and another with software used in our faculty
[09:00] <jamey3> hmrocha: sorry i don't think i got the jist of what you were saying before
[09:00] <god-zero> sveasoft or hyperwrt
[09:00] <jamey3> hmrocha: oh i see
[09:00] <jamey3> god-zero: cool are they very good?
[09:01] <jamey3> hmrocha: so they can install hoary and then all of the packages you use from the other cd, right?
[09:01] <god-zero> jamey3: very good
[09:01] <hmrocha> jamey3, they install hoary, and install all the .deb they need from the other cd
[09:01] <nlogax> Answer LOL!
[09:01] <Answer> qt2: The power cable was actually unplugged :)  I didn't realize till the laptop shutdown
[09:01] <Krneki> hay
[09:02] <qt2> Answer: lmao.
[09:02] <Krneki> please help is there any shortcut for logout if you are in graphic mode
[09:02] <hmrocha> jamey3, it would be great if they could define that cd as a repository, but i don't know if that's possible
[09:02] <qt2> err, question, could random, heavy emory applications segfaulting be caused by not having enough memory? <.<;
[09:02] <hmrocha> jamey3, i have to go now, bye
[09:02] <jamey3> hmrocha: as in your own private repos for your students?
[09:02] <god-zero> I've tried both.. I prefer hyperwrt.. but both distros are good... and the router is very good, I'm thinking of getting the wrt54gs for the added goodness
[09:02] <Krneki> help help
[09:02] <jamey3> hmrocha: oh okay cya around, by
[09:02] <jamey3> *bye
[09:03] <sdali> Will someone _please_ pastebin me a copy of their /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/rlogin file? Mine is corrupt. It's looks like a binary file when it should just be a simple text file. I think it got corrupted when I had an IDE cable go bad.
[09:03] <jamey3> god-zero: wow there's always some sort of linux-y alternative that rocks for these sorts of things :)
[09:04] <leopard> have a script that runs smbmount //computername/directory /localmnt -o username=username password=password --just wondering why it still asks for a password, the password is correct
[09:04] <god-zero> no, on the linksys, the included install is linux even
[09:04] <qt2> err, question, could random, heavy memory usage applications segfaulting be caused by not having enough memory? <.<;
[09:04] <god-zero> the alternate distros add different thing too the mix
[09:05] <meuserj|work> qt2, I don't think so....
[09:05] <jamey3> god-zero: wow, so linksys know their stuff
[09:05] <god-zero> ;)
[09:05] <derek[] > Hi
[09:05] <meuserj|work> qt2, if I recall, malloc just exits with an error if it can't get enough memory.. should send a segfault signal
[09:05] <meuserj|work> err... shouldn't
[09:05] <derek[] > I want to download Ubuntu. Which version should I get? hoary or Breezy Badger?
[09:06] <Answer> qt2: I started having the same problems today.  I switch to text with ctrl+alt+f1 and run TOP and xchat and firefox are taking up 50M+
[09:06] <jamey3> thanks everyone for your wonderful help, you'd never get this sort of quality anywhere else :)
[09:06] <qt2> derek[] : get hoary, you can always upgrade to breezy later.
[09:06] <Answer> well, if you bought a Mac...
[09:07] <derek[] > qt2, upgrade without installing again?
[09:07] <qt2> jamey3: heh, sure you would, the OSS community is filled with helpful people.
[09:07] <qt2> derek[] : yep.
[09:07] <derek[] > qt2, and not breezy because its not the final release yet?
[09:07] <qt2> derek[] : exactle.
[09:07] <jamey3> qt2: i meant generally from the OSS community lol ;)
[09:07] <derek[] > k
[09:07] <sdali> Please take a look at /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/rlogin to see that it's just a text file, and tell me what yours looks like. Mine is corrcupted.
[09:07] <qt2> derek[] : upgrading to breezy is simple.
[09:08] <derek[] > qt2, can't you upgrade to breezy's preview release from hoary? ;)
[09:08] <Answer> FYI:  EmperorLinux, LinuxCertified, and OpenSenseSolutions now offer pre-installed Ubuntu :)
[09:08] <boxerboy29> yes
[09:08] <qt2> derek[] : you can, yes.
[09:08] <derek[] > qt2, k
[09:08] <jamey3> sdali: mine has a few lines to do with rlogin and slogin
[09:08] <sdali> Could you _please_ pastebin it to me?
[09:08] <qt2> derek[] : there are instructions on how to do so if you so please on the wiki.
[09:09] <jamey3> Answer: wow! that's nifty, do they have some sort of OOBE/OEM thing?
[09:09] <derek[] > qt2, how much do you have to install more to upgrade? (in case you had done it) ..coz if its going to be a lot.. I'd rather get breezy directly
[09:09] <Answer> jamey3: what do you mean oobe oem thing
[09:09] <jamey3> sdali: sure i'm in a terminal so give me a sec (i'm used to X)
[09:09] <jamey3> Answer: in the style of windows or mac os
[09:09] <sdali> jamey3 - Thanks
[09:09] <jamey3> +x
[09:09] <qt2> derek[] : breezy isnt stable yet, it breaks easily.
[09:09] <Answer> jamey3: I don't understand.  Check out their websites
[09:09] <jamey3> where it asks for your username and various settings
[09:10] <jamey3> Answer: say if you bought a windows box. when you first turn it on, it asks for your username, how you connect to your LAN and so on
[09:10] <jamey3> like a first-time configuration thing that you would usually do when installing the box
[09:10] <boxerboy29> there is one site ive found that hasnt changed the unbuntuguide for hoary
[09:10] <derek[] > qt2, okay
[09:10] <Answer> jamey3: I'm not sure how they handle the initial user account and setup, but they offer a variety of preinstalled linux operating systems, and Ubuntu is now one of them.  EmperorLinux, LinuxCertified, OpenSenseSolutions
[09:11] <qt2> derek[] : it'll probably be another month or two before breezy hits stable.
[09:11] <InitMass> will rhythmbox still be the default player of breezy?
[09:11] <jamey3> sdali: http://jjcomputers.co.uk/rlogin
[09:11] <derek[] > qt2, ok
[09:11] <derek[] > thanks
[09:11] <boxerboy29> qt2 the realease is set for oct 13th
[09:12] <dcraven> derek[] : I think approximately the 13th of next month.
[09:12] <sdali> jamey3 - Cheers mate.
[09:12] <Answer> Friday the 13th ?
[09:12] <boxerboy29> know breezy prolly
[09:12] <Answer> ah its thursday
[09:12] <boxerboy29> lol
[09:12] <Seveas> :)
[09:12] <esac_> does anybody else find the ubuntu splashscreeen during boot fugly ?
[09:12] <derek[] > dcraven, I see
[09:12] <Seveas> Ubuntu "Thursday 13'th" 5.10
[09:13] <derek[] > hm
[09:13] <dcraven> esac_: I think it's awesome.
[09:13] <jamey3> sdali: no problem
[09:13] <Answer> Is there a release name for the version after breezy?  I'd like to suggest "Chunky"
[09:13] <Seveas> esac_, some like it, some don't...
[09:13] <boxerboy29> yes and i found a pretty cool one but had to reformat and now i dont know wher ei go ti
[09:13] <boxerboy29> it
[09:13] <tritium> Answer: dapper drake
[09:13] <z|bandito> can you specify a 404 page per directory with apache?
[09:13] <Answer> how about Chunky Charles
[09:14] <Seveas> z|bandito, yes
[09:14] <Seveas> but that's highly off-topic in here
[09:14] <z|bandito> doesn't ubuntu come with apache? :)
[09:14] <z|bandito> sorry ..
[09:15] <Seveas> z|bandito, specific support for every application is impossible
[09:15] <z|bandito> sorry ..
[09:15] <boxerboy29> doesnt ubuntu have like 17000 programs?
[09:15] <z|bandito> thanks though :)
[09:15] <chrisbudden14> getting this in synaptic when i try to upgrade skye
[09:15] <chrisbudden14> skype:
[09:15] <chrisbudden14>  Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but it is not installable
[09:16] <chrisbudden14> slype
[09:16] <chrisbudden14> lol
[09:16] <chrisbudden14> SKYPE
[09:16] <sdali> jamey3  - You're a lifesaver - Thanks again. I was fighting a corrupted openssh-client configuration problem where it kept dying during the config step. I tracked it back to a whacked rlogin alternative file. Your replacement made all of my openssh-client woes go away. Thanks again. :)
[09:16] <Seveas> chrisbudden14, so? find a deb made for ubuntu...
[09:16] <Seveas> no standard repositories contain skype, ask the maintainer of that repository
[09:17] <qt2> got tired of segfaluts.
[09:18] <boxerboy29> this may be off topic but what does a windows user need to read a doc from OO?
[09:18] <Seveas> OO.o for windows
[09:18] <tristanmike> boxerboy29, you can save it as a *.doc file
[09:18] <tristanmike> Seveas, lol
[09:19] <chrisbudden14> Seveas, thanks, i downloaded the one from the skype site
[09:19] <Gobbla> is ipv6 activated by default in the kernel?
[09:19] <boxerboy29> oh ok cool so i dont have to spend a day trying to teach her
[09:19] <Seveas> Gobbla, yes
[09:19] <boxerboy29> ty
[09:19] <Gobbla> Seveas: coolk
[09:21] <Gobbla> ifconfig gif0 create
[09:21] <Gobbla> why doesent this work?
[09:21] <Haohmaru> /dev/dsp: no such file or directory (btw, does no-one here care about sound playback? ;))
[09:22] <BurgerMann> Would anyone recommend Ubuntu as OS for a server? I'm no eagle at using the shell, but I need to setup a server anyway :s
[09:22] <BurgerMann> It's mostly a webserver
[09:22] <Gobbla> BurgerMann: sure why not..
[09:22] <Seveas> BurgerMann, yes, Ubuntu is perfectly suitable for a server
[09:22] <Seveas> I run several Ubuntu based servers (as does the Ubuntu team :))
[09:23] <BurgerMann> I just hear alot of negative aspects when people here about servers running X
[09:23] <BurgerMann> hear*
[09:23] <Seveas> servers running X is creepy indeed
[09:23] <Answer> waaaaa cry
[09:24] <Haohmaru> someone please point me to a working ubuntuguide or give me some hints - it's awfully quiet here
[09:24] <BurgerMann> Seveas, hehe another negative aspect. But I'm no good using a shell alone... I'm an ol' windows user.. I need a gui :(
[09:25] <Gobbla> can anybody help me or give me a link that explains how i setup a ipv6 tunnel?
[09:25] <zukalk> hey all. is there anyway to choose to boot into ubuntu without starting x?
[09:25] <Seveas> BurgerMann, if you need X, then make sure you can't connect to it from the outside (the default setup) and use freeNX if you have to connect to it from the outside
[09:26] <qt2> boxerboy29:  jsut save it in a windows compatible format.
[09:26] <Seveas> zukalk, sure, rm /etc/rc2.d/*gdm remove
[09:26] <Seveas> and the default will then be no X
[09:26] <Seveas> you can type telinit 3 or runlevel 3 for X
[09:26] <zukalk> Seveas, but i don't want that to always happen
[09:26] <zukalk> Seveas, can't i add something in Grub?
[09:26] <BurgerMann> Seveas, darned!
[09:27] <Seveas> zukalk, that is possible, but I don't know the details by heart
[09:27] <BurgerMann> Seveas, thx for your answer
[09:27] <Seveas> BurgerMann, ?
[09:27] <Seveas> what's so bad about not using ssh -X but freenx for remotw connections?
[09:28] <god-zero> Haohmaru: I can't find your original post... but sounds like you need to either pick a different output, or update (I had same prob with breezy a week or two ago)
[09:28] <bluefoxicy> http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/screenie_gobby.png  it would be so cool if OpenOffice did this
[09:28] <BurgerMann> Seveas, it's just that I like setting up the server on the server machine :}
[09:28] <BurgerMann> Seveas, after it has been setup ssh will do just fine :)
[09:28] <Seveas> so no remote gui at all, even better :)
[09:30] <BurgerMann> Seveas, I believe I've heard for not using X locally on the server machine is because X ties up memory.
[09:31] <Seveas> BurgerMann, if it's only for setting things up you can easily enable/disable X
[09:31] <Haohmaru> god-zero: since today (after trying to get WiFi running according to the rt2500 ubuntu howto) I do not have a /dev/dsp anymore
[09:31] <Haohmaru> this indeed means I did have working sound before
[09:31] <Haohmaru> and that's what's bugging me
[09:31] <REyM> I installed the wine package thru synaptic, but I can't find the config file, anyone knows where it should be?
[09:32] <goo_> Haohmaru: tried restarting udev ?
[09:32] <Seveas> Haohmaru, if device nodes are missing and you run breezy, make sure you are completely updated
[09:32] <BurgerMann> Seveas, that's just great then. :D
[09:32] <IcemanV9> let me get this straight .. if you want to use "ssh -X", then Xorg must reside on the server side in order to make it work on the client side, right?
[09:32] <goo_> Haohmaru: and get udev version ubuntu14 - helped for me.
[09:32] <goo_> Haohmaru: if you are on breezy
[09:33] <Seveas> IcemanV9, no
[09:33] <andpoi> Hey, has anyone else had trouble with installing nVidia drivers with apt-get?
[09:33] <zrothe> I need some help
[09:34] <zrothe> I'm having trouble getting 3D Acceleration to work, im using ATI
[09:34] <Seveas> !ati
[09:34] <ubotu> ati is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[09:34] <zrothe> ATI's drivers
[09:35] <BurgerMann> Why is ubuntuguide.com freakin out on me?.. keeps reloading the page :s
[09:35] <IcemanV9> Seveas: ah. ok. no need to install xorg on the server side. very cool. :)
[09:35] <Haohmaru> udev restart did not help
[09:35] <Seveas> ubuntuguide.org is crap and down
[09:35] <Haohmaru> yes
[09:35] <Haohmaru> I noticed
[09:35] <zrothe> ok
[09:35] <BurgerMann> Seveas, why crap?... I like it :x
[09:35] <Haohmaru> still no /dev/dsp (why did it disappear anyway?)
[09:35] <zrothe> well I've created another problem
[09:36] <zrothe> I have installed the ATI driver from ati.com, how do I get rid of it?
[09:37] <REyM> Anyone know where the wine config file should be?
[09:38] <Bettong_BOFH> how to get java for breezy?
[09:38] <Sam3773> ... Now THAT was cool.
[09:38] <Sam3773> Ahem.. Hey all. :D
[09:38] <zrothe> how do I find my kernel version?
[09:38] <REyM> uname -r
[09:39] <zrothe> thanks
[09:39] <zukalk> Sam3773, what was cool? :P
[09:39] <Sam3773> That login thing, never seen it before. :D
[09:39] <zukalk> what login thing?
[09:39] <Bettong_BOFH> the one on the screensaver?
[09:39] <Sam3773> Anywho.. 3 words.. No screens found. Been winding me up for about 6 months :)
[09:40] <Sam3773> No the IRC register thing o.O
[09:40] <Bettong_BOFH> really i haven't seen it
[09:40] <zukalk> ah
[09:40] <zyga> could someone help me with mounting cloop filesystems?
[09:40] <Bettong_BOFH> must be because i use gaim
[09:41] <zyga> I'm trying everything but it seems that either ubunts cloop tools are borked or my image is non-standard
[09:41] <zyga> I'm trying to mount a modified knoppix image (kioskcd.org)
[09:41] <Sam3773> Ive been on Ubuntu before and i loved it but it went with a formatt. Now when i install it's fine up untill the startx thing where i get "No screens found"
[09:41] <zrothe> In reguards to the ATI drivers, what are the restricted modules?
[09:41] <IcemanV9> Bettong_BOFH: java for breezy -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java?action=show&redirect=AddingJavaSupport
[09:41] <Bettong_BOFH> IcemanV9: thanx
[09:42] <Sam3773> ... Does Breezy offer any additional GFX card drivers..
[09:42] <Sam3773> Ive only tried Haory so far
[09:42] <Sam3773> Hoary*
[09:42] <snow_ru> he'
[09:42] <snow_ru> what is it ?
[09:43] <qt2> snow_ru: what is what?
[09:43] <izmaelis> is anybody intrested in basketball here? (-:
[09:44] <degia35> snow_ru: :(
[09:44] <Sam3773> ...
[09:45] <Sam3773> Anyone know what ubuntu is at all?
[09:45] <Seveas> !ubuntu
[09:45] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[09:45] <Sam3773> I WAS joking.. Meh Well.. No screens found :(
[09:46] <Bettong_BOFH> ok here's whats going on
[09:46] <Bettong_BOFH> there are sunspots
[09:46] <Bettong_BOFH> so you want to take tin foil and line the inside of your computer all acrost the motherboard
[09:46] <Seveas> Bettong_BOFH, ...
[09:46] <Bettong_BOFH> to protect from sunspots
[09:46] <zrothe> How do I uninstall the ATI drivers?
[09:46] <Bettong_BOFH> lol
[09:46] <Bettong_BOFH> what?.....
[09:47] <Sam3773> ... How do i find the PCI bus for my Nvidia 5200?
[09:47] <Gobbla> how do I look up my NIC handle?
[09:47] <Seveas> Sam3773, lspci
[09:47] <Seveas> Gobbla, what do you mean with NIC handle?
[09:47] <Answer> Gobbla: ifconfig   iwconfig
[09:47] <Gobbla> Seveas: i need that to signup att sixxs..
[09:47] <Sam3773> Tried that, entered what it gave me into the xconfig thing and it said please enter a valid bus address.
[09:48] <Answer> Gobbla: try   ifconfig    iwconfig
[09:48] <Seveas> Gobbla, probably they mean mac address
[09:48] <Gobbla> Answer: aight
[09:48] <Gobbla> Seveas: thats what i thought
[09:48] <Gobbla> not sure though
[09:48] <Seveas> it's the xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx thing in ifconfig
[09:48] <Gobbla> yes i know what a MAC address is..
[09:48] <Seveas> k :)
[09:49] <Gobbla> Answer: that command didnt work
[09:49] <Answer> Gobbla: Dost thou knowest what ROOT is
[09:49] <shadeofgrey> does anybody know what the heck happened to www.ubuntuguide.org???
[09:49] <Gobbla> nope
[09:49] <Sam3773> ... Question, Mandrake or Ubuntu? :)
[09:49] <Gobbla> Answer: yes i do?
[09:49] <boxerboy29> its being change for breezy
[09:49] <Answer> Gobbla: You must be root to run ifconfig and iwconfig.
[09:49] <Beryllium> Sam3773: That's not a question
[09:49] <jeffisageek> answer: windows 98 :)
[09:49] <Gobbla> answer no i musnt
[09:49] <Sam3773> ... Fair point.
[09:49] <Gobbla> it just couldnt find the device
[09:49] <REyM> Sam3773,  definately dos 6.0
[09:50] <Sam3773> Woo dos.
[09:50] <Beryllium> If you're requesting a comparison between the two, then say so. :)
[09:50] <Answer> Gobbla:  ifconfig eth0   will display the HWAddr of your wired ethernet card.   iwconfig eth1  will display the HWAddr of your wireless card
[09:50] <Gobbla> ah, thought you meant that both was one command
[09:50] <Sam3773> Well i have Mandrake on my Linux HDD.. Not sure if i should keep it or put Ubuntu over it.
[09:50] <Gobbla> you still dont need to be root
[09:51] <Gobbla> *superuser
[09:51] <Answer> Gobbla: To view the settings no,  to change the settings you must
[09:51] <chemisus> how do you close a process that has a loop in it?
[09:52] <Sam3773> ... Ubuntu it is.
[09:52] <BurgerMann> Is there anywhere I can read up on SSH protocol and SFTP?
[09:52] <boxerboy29> shadeofgrey: do you have an issue with ubuntu or did you just want the guide?
[09:52] <Sam3773> Google?
[09:52] <Gobbla> Answer: And in wich sence do i change settings in viewing my MAC ID?
[09:52] <Gobbla> *which
[09:53] <Answer> Gobbla: are you trying to be a jerk, because I can stop helping you now.
[09:53] <omp> are the ms corefonts in breezy repos?
[09:53] <yhann> Hi guys, quick question (I hope) : I am trying to install software by using scon command and does not work. Help, Please
[09:53] <Gobbla> Answer: do i dont, sorry if it looked like it..
[09:53] <Gobbla> just asking...
[09:54] <Gobbla> I get this error when typing in my MAC ID in NIC Handle: Unknown source in nichdl '000C7628826E', handles should end in -RIPE, -ARIN, -AP (APNIC), -AFRINIC or -LACNIC
[09:54] <Answer> Gobbla: do you know which type your nic is
[09:55] <Gobbla> nah
[09:55] <Seveas> Gobbla, hehehe, that's a completely different type of nic
[09:55] <Seveas> it's a network information centre, you need to work at one to sign up where you want probably
[09:55] <Gobbla> no i dont think so...
[09:55] <jamey3> exit
[09:56] <Haohmaru> nite all
[09:56] <eviltaco> Can someone query me the extra repos listed on ubuntuguide.org, it seems to be down right now :(
[09:56] <Sam3773> Can the PCI bus address in xorg.conf being wrong cause a "no screens found" error?
[09:56] <yhann> How can I set QTDIR?
[09:56] <boxerboy29> im sorry but i have to do this everyone is asking for it
[09:56] <deFrysk> eviltaco, ubuntuguide is evil anyway, use the wiki for repositories
[09:56] <bina> i want to fsck my hard disk but i need to unmount it first, is there some init move i should go into or some command i need to put into grub?
[09:57] <boxerboy29> NOTICE: use at own risk
[09:57] <shadeofgrey> boxer:  well, to be honest im not sure.  id been running breezy for almosdt 6 weeks and then somehow last night after a system update, my xorg.conf file broke, wouldnt let me log in graphically, and then all of a sudden my soundcard stopped working...  basically everything went to hell in 20 minutes.
[09:57] <bina> or do i just ignore the scary warning?
[09:57] <Gobbla> Answer: how do i find out?
[09:57] <Hanzo> anyone using hauppage pvr250 on ubuntu
[09:57] <shadeofgrey> boxer:  but thats what i get for enabling all those deb sourcess for alpha builds
[09:57] <Seveas> Gobbla, look at the signup page
[09:57] <Seveas> it's specified there
[09:57] <Seveas> anyway, it's massively off-topic in here....
[09:57] <boxerboy29> http://www.frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/5.04/index.html
[09:57] <MAPD> hi
[09:57] <REyM> grmbl, I am trying to get max payne to work with sound. stupid thing is that sound works with cedega (well at least the intro part) but the video is b0rked. and with wine I have nice video, but no sound. How can I check the sound settings for wine?
[09:57] <shadeofgrey> boxer:  so im NOT editting my /etc/apt/sources.list file this time and hopefully i dont break anything with this install
[09:58] <Answer> Gobbla: i've never heard of nic types like that
[09:58] <MAPD> with ubuntu cd i can login as root how can i stop that?
[09:58] <Gobbla> Seveas: well i dont get much help there
[09:58] <eviltaco> can someone link the ubuntu wiki respos?
[09:58] <Gobbla> this is not excactly my area
[09:58] <MAPD> mr Seveas
[09:58] <MAPD> ?
[09:58] <boxerboy29> shade the site is above
[09:58] <Gobbla> http://www.sixxs.net/signup/
[09:58] <shadeofgrey> furthermore what happened to adding root-terminal to my launcher?  they took it out of the list for some reason and id REALLY like to have it back
[09:59] <[LethAL] > If I weere to put a .deb on a floppy disk, will the ubuntu installler install it in the network adapter section (assuming I ask it to, of course)?
[09:59] <deFrysk> !tell eviltaco about repositories
[09:59] <Seveas> The NIC Handle can be obtained from RIPE, ARIN, APNIC, LACNIC or AFRINIC
[09:59] <eviltaco> thanks :)
[09:59] <Sam3773> ... Ubuntu makes me go Emo. :(
[09:59] <MAPD> anyone help?
[09:59] <Seveas> shadeofgrey, sudo -i in a normal terminal does the same and is more secure
[09:59] <yhann> How can I set QTDIR?
[09:59] <Seveas> yhann, depends on what you want...
[09:59] <Beryllium> Sam3773: I woke up with Emo hair this morning, in anticipation of installing Ubuntu
[10:00] <shadeofgrey> id rather have my root terminal icon back in the launcher thank you...  how do i achieve that>
[10:00] <shadeofgrey> ?
[10:00] <Sam3773> ... I get it on my 6th attempt at installing it :D
[10:00] <MAPD> with ubuntu cd i can login as root how can i stop that? !?
[10:00] <Seveas> shadeofgrey, use smeg
[10:00] <Seveas> MAPD, what do you mean..?
[10:00] <MAPD> wait a second
[10:00] <yhann> Seveas: I want install software and can not find QT or asking to define QTDIR.
[10:00] <MAPD> need to change pc
[10:00] <Seveas> yhann, what are you trying to compile?
[10:01] <Gobbla> Seveas: i tried that page
[10:01] <Gobbla> dont find any NIC handle
[10:01] <yhann> Seveas: Kcleansweep
[10:01] <Gobbla> (did a whois on my IP)
[10:01] <Eviltaco> Uh whats the command to edit the sources.list file?
[10:01] <MrMaDSeN> hey.. why cant I use .ico as appz shortcuts in breezy ?
[10:01] <Seveas> Gobbla, you need to contact them to get one, but this is highy off topic in here....
[10:01] <Seveas> Eviltaco, any editor can...
[10:02] <MrMaDSeN> Eviltaco,  sudo gedit ?
[10:02] <Eviltaco> I mean, whats the terminal command..?
[10:02] <Gobbla> well, the issue is to make a ipv6 tunnel, so imo its not :)
[10:02] <Seveas> Eviltaco, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:02] <Eviltaco> thanks :)
[10:02] <Seveas> Gobbla, nonsense, it has NOTHING to do with ubuntu
[10:02] <Linner> greetings everyone :)
[10:02] <yhann> Seveas: Kcleansweep and I install all package I can find about Qt
[10:02] <deFrysk> !tell Eviltaco about synaptic
[10:03] <deFrysk> !tell Eviltaco about apt-get
[10:03] <Seveas> yhann, you probably need build-essential and libqt-something-dev
[10:03] <shadeofgrey> okay guys...  the update is almost done...  im going to reboot and ill be right back...  ill want someone here to hold my hand while i install the nvidia stuff because im very scared of it...  ive screwed it up many times
[10:03] <Gobbla> to make a ipv6 tunnel has to do with ubuntu..
[10:03] <MrMaDSeN> hey.. why cant I use .ico as appz shortcuts in breezy ?
[10:03] <MAPD> back
[10:03] <Seveas> MrMaDSeN, because .ico is an evl format :)
[10:03] <MAPD> Seveas sorry
[10:03] <shadeofgrey> this is the last tie i want to totally rebuild my ubuntu installation for a while...  ive done it 9 times in less than 7 months
[10:04] <MAPD> i heard that it was possible to login as root with ubuntu cd
[10:04] <MrMaDSeN> Seveas, no its not... and I could in hoary
[10:04] <MAPD> i wanted to make it impossible
[10:04] <Linner> boxerboy29: hey there!
[10:04] <Seveas> MAPD, you can't...
[10:04] <Seveas> MAPD, if you use encrypted partitions you can disable access to disks, but not more
[10:05] <MAPD> Seveas how do use that?
[10:05] <hou5ton> i have a laptop with an Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG and have tried and tried to get wireless working on FC4. A friend told me he thought Ubuntu would do it out of the box. ?? What say you?
[10:05] <Seveas> MAPD, search the wiki for cryptsetup (it's new in breezy)
[10:05] <MAPD> but that way isnt good isnt it? that way ppl can harm me
[10:05] <Eviltaco> is breezy out yet?!
[10:05] <[LethAL] > No
[10:05] <Seveas> hou5ton, it has been reported to work out of the box
[10:05] <shawarma> hou5ton That's right.
[10:05] <Seveas> Eviltaco, oct. 13 is release
[10:05] <Linner> hou5ton: it's possible... but with the final release of breezy you're far more likely
[10:06] <deFrysk> Eviltaco, oct 13th
[10:06] <Seveas> but you can use the development version now
[10:06] <Eviltaco> :)
[10:06] <Linner> Seveas: are they shipping on the 13th too?
[10:06] <shawarma> hou5ton: In both Breezy and Hoary it Just Works.
[10:06] <yhann> Seveas:libqt-mnt-dev is installed
[10:06] <hou5ton> cool .... should I go ahead and dual boot Breezy, or sit tight
[10:06] <Linner> Seveas: shipping the cds that is
[10:06] <MAPD> what does it mean "out of the box"?
[10:06] <Linner> hou5ton: go ahead and try it
[10:06] <Gobbla> i dont think they have announced a date for shipit cds
[10:06] <Seveas> Linner, shipping is started on the 13th
[10:06] <Linner> Seveas: great... thanks ;)
[10:06] <shawarma> MAPD: That you don't have to do anything yourself to make it work.
[10:06] <Gobbla> oh, do they now..
[10:06] <[LethAL] > Anyone have an idea on building a driver floppy?
[10:06] <Gobbla> cool..
[10:06] <MAPD> ah ok thanks
[10:06] <hou5ton> Linner:  will the beta finish to the final release seemlessly without reinstall?
[10:07] <Seveas> hou5ton, of course...
[10:07] <MAPD> hou5ton i have a laptop with the same wireless card
[10:07] <deFrysk> hou5ton, for sure
[10:07] <MAPD> Seveas but that way isnt good isnt it? that way ppl can harm me
[10:07] <hou5ton> good ... cuz i'm not a re-configuring guru or anything like htat
[10:07] <Linner> hou5ton: that way you can get a good look at  it and give it a try... then upgrade after it's released....
[10:07] <Seveas> funkyHat,, I removed the opera .deb again -- the debian etch deb is reported to work on breezy ;)
[10:07] <Determinist> Seveas: permission to pm?
[10:07] <Seveas> Determinist, always :)
[10:08] <Determinist> Seveas: :D
[10:08] <deFrysk> hou5ton, in topic is a link to upgrade notes to make things easyer
[10:08] <hou5ton> ok
[10:08] <hou5ton> thanks
[10:08] <Linner> does anyone know if the broadcom 802.11b/g integrated wireless will be supported?  I have a a compaq V2000Z with AMD Turion.
[10:08] <Linner> hou5ton: no problem
[10:08] <Answer> Linner: there are broadcom wrappers
[10:08] <shawarma> Linner: don't bet on it.
[10:08] <MAPD> Seveas may i msg you?
[10:08] <Linner> Answer: what exactly is a wrapper?
[10:09] <Linner> shawarma: really?  why's that?
[10:09] <yhann> Seveas:libqt-mnt-dev is install and what you min by build-essential?
[10:09] <funkyHat> Seveas, etch? :)
[10:09] <puff> Hm, is there any way to bandwidth-nice apt?
[10:09] <umberleigh_> is there anything i can do to improve audacity's performance? i've already changed the quality settings to improve performance, but it's still stuttering like hell when working with a long multitrack mix
[10:09] <shawarma> Linner: well, it'll work, but not out of the box. It requires binary drivers available on the CD that came with the NIC.
[10:09] <Seveas> funkyHat, debian testing
[10:09] <funkyHat> ah right
[10:10] <Linner> shawarma: ok... so when I reinstall breezy then I'll come to see you to figure out how to do that. :)
[10:10] <Eviltaco> is it xine-ui? apt-get install xine-ui?
[10:10] <deFrysk> !xine
[10:10] <ubotu> deFrysk: Bugger all, i dunno
[10:10] <deFrysk> geez ubotu
[10:10] <MAPD> :(
[10:10] <shawarma> Linner: No problem. It's quite easy when you manage to find the right files on the Cd.
[10:10] <eth42> hi! does anyone know how to activate tv-out (nforce2) on X.org?
[10:11] <Linner> well, i have the CD that came with the compaq... maybe I'll just extract the folder for the broadcom only to make things easier on me
[10:11] <Eviltaco> "E: Package xine has no installation candidate
[10:11] <Eviltaco> "
[10:11] <Eviltaco> I did apt-get install xine..?
[10:12] <REyM> Eviltaco, apt-get install xnie-ui
[10:12] <REyM> *xine-ui
[10:12] <deFrysk> REyM, xnie?
[10:12] <deFrysk> :D
[10:12] <Linner> shawarma: i'm having big time display problems so i might have to redown load the image ... I'm burning ISOs of SuSE 9.3 right now
[10:12] <Eviltaco> ok, thank you
[10:12] <Linner> shawarma: i've heard that the SuSE distro may work out for me... have you used it before?
[10:13] <deFrysk> Linner, suse ...aaarrgghh!!!!!
[10:13] <shawarma> Linner: Never.
[10:13] <Linner> shawarma: ok... fair enough.  Thanks!
[10:13] <shadeofgrey> okay guys im ready to do the nvidia install...
[10:13] <shadeofgrey> its apt-get install nvidia-glx right?
[10:13] <deFrysk> shadeofgrey, yup
[10:13] <erik__> Hi
[10:13] <[LethAL] > Woooo... spam joinin
[10:13] <[LethAL] > g
[10:14] <shadeofgrey> and then i edit the xorg.conf file and remove the line in the wiki concerning memory leaks and crashes, and change the "nv" to "nvidia" right?
[10:14] <boxerboy29> linner: good morning its me smartass
[10:14] <boxerboy29> :)
[10:14] <deFrysk> shadeofgrey, then sudo nvidia-glx-config enable , then restart x
[10:14] <deFrysk> shadeofgrey, no need to edit xorg.conf
[10:14] <[LethAL] > That's a large about of IPs
[10:15] <shadeofgrey> no...  see - every time i do the nvidia-glx-config-enable and DONT touch the xorg.conf it screws everything to hell and when i restart x it refuses to come back up right.
[10:15] <jamey3> Is there anyway of capping incoming bandwidth? I am using apt-get to download a lot of packages but I don't want to use up all the bandwidth on my network.
[10:15] <deFrysk> shadeofgrey, ooh sorry
[10:15] <MrMaDSeN> hmm damn breezy is buggy.. cant even select png as icon for an app
[10:16] <[LethAL] > The only problems I've had with breezy was Nautilus
[10:16] <Seveas> MrMaDSeN, read the topic
[10:16] <Seveas> "Found a bug? report it: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/"
[10:16] <MrMaDSeN> hehe I know
[10:16] <erik__> Should I install breezy to my main laptop? I do have backups..
[10:16] <shadeofgrey> the only way ive ever gotten it to work is just do the nvidia-glx insyall and then edit that line in the xorg.conf ...  ill also handle the one about the leaks that i found in the wiki and hope to god that everything works out...  what do i do if it borks everythging to hell?  is there a command to put everything back to the default?
[10:17] <Seveas> erik__, you could
[10:17] <erik__> I cant decide..
[10:17] <shawarma> MAPD: Why+
[10:17] <shawarma> MAPD: Why?
[10:17] <charlin> how can i listen to mp3 in ubuntu
[10:17] <shadeofgrey> i suppose it wont hhurt.  i just did the install...  if i have to redo it now its no big deal
[10:17] <Seveas> !mp3
[10:17] <ubotu> methinks mp3 is read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[10:17] <ritalin> morning #ubuntu
[10:17] <MAPD> is there a program for making dvds from .avi files?
[10:17] <Seveas> humpSaat, YOU FRIGGEN MORON
[10:17] <deFrysk> shadeofgrey, cp xorg.conf to xorg.conf-old for backup
[10:17] <Seveas> turn of that stupid annoying script NOW
[10:18] <zxsykco> Just brain storming, but I remember something that has to do with when you come DRI into the kernel instead of a module and having to supply a DRI= variable to xorg.conf. Can't recall the prblem in it's entirity. Maybe that is useful?!
[10:18] <deFrysk> shadeofgrey, in that way you can always put the old one back
[10:18] <zxsykco> not come -- compile!
[10:19] <xukun> I,m trying to install skype on breezy but then I get "Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed" if I do apt-get install skype. Any idea's?
[10:19] <erik__> Well... I may be back. Thanks! I probalbly will install 5.10 -- My visit was totally pointless.
[10:19] <ritalin> anyone off the top off their head know the packages i need to make rhytmbox play mp3's?
[10:19] <MAPD> Seveas isnt cryptsetup easy to use?
[10:19] <Seveas> ritalin, gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:19] <Seveas> MAPD, no
[10:20] <MAPD> arr
[10:20] <MAPD> i lost myself now
[10:20] <MAPD> lol
[10:20] <ritalin> Seveas: danke
[10:20] <MAPD> is it easy?
[10:20] <Seveas> no it's not easy afaik
[10:20] <shawarma> MAPD: Depends. What do you want to do exactly?
[10:20] <MAPD> i saw on the tut
[10:20] <xukun> anybody please
[10:20] <MAPD> that its possible to bypass the root password
[10:20] <MAPD> using a live cd
[10:21] <MAPD> i didnt want that to happen
[10:21] <[LethAL] > MAPD, it's also possible to do that in Windows
[10:21] <MAPD> and i want a program to make dvd movies from .avi with subtitles
[10:21] <Seveas> MAPD, if you boot from a live cd the disks in your system are simply disks, not an OS
[10:21] <MAPD> ok
[10:21] <Seveas> and anything on these disks can be read
[10:21] <MAPD> so
[10:21] <MAPD> at school they have a linux OS
[10:22] <MAPD> i put a live cd
[10:22] <MAPD> and i can login as root
[10:22] <MAPD> and do whatever i want?
[10:22] <shadeofgrey> where is the xorg.conf file located again?
[10:22] <zxsykco> So you can retrieve the hashes or tamper with any file you'd like!
[10:22] <gnuton> Hi all!
[10:22] <Seveas> MAPD, yes
[10:22] <shadeofgrey> /var/X11/xorg.conf ??
[10:22] <shawarma> MAPD: Yes. That's the way it works.
[10:22] <MAPD> but i need to keep the cd on it?
[10:23] <deFrysk> shadeofgrey, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:23] <shadeofgrey> thanks
[10:23] <shawarma> xukun: What was you question?
[10:23] <MAPD> i can change the password right
[10:23] <MAPD> all done
[10:23] <MAPD> shawarma a program to make dvd movies from .avi with subtitles
[10:23] <Beryllium> wee, ubuntu is booting for the first time
[10:23] <Beryllium> let's see if the VMWare video driver can cut it
[10:23] <xukun> shawarma,  I,m trying to install skype on breezy but then I get "Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed" if I do apt-get install skype. Any idea's?
[10:24] <deFrysk> xukun, apt-get install libqt3c ?
[10:24] <shawarma> MAPD: And what does that have to do with cryptsetup?
[10:24] <deFrysk> xukun, apt-get install libqt3c-mt even ?
[10:24] <MAPD> nothing
[10:24] <Beryllium> does ubuntu always update on boot, or just on the first boot?
[10:25] <MrMaDSeN> xukun, seacrh that pakacage in synaptic
[10:25] <MAPD> but i wanted to have both
[10:25] <MAPD> first know how to use cryptsetup
[10:25] <Beryllium> oh, I see, this is all on the disk
[10:25] <Seveas> Beryllium, the first boot is part of the install
[10:25] <Beryllium> 622 newly installed. Nice.
[10:25] <MAPD> and to know if i ever remove my linux partitions i can get back to windows if i have problems or need space
[10:25] <Beryllium> Seveas: Yeah, I got that after it stopped doing one at a time. lol :)
[10:25] <shawarma> MAPD: Er.... You asked if cryptsetup was hard to use, so I asked what you wanted to do with it.
[10:26] <thomas> alors la !
[10:26] <MAPD> shawarma may i msg you?
[10:26] <deFrysk> !fr
[10:26] <ubotu> fr is, like, Va a #ubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[10:26] <thomas> kikdijon, j'ai desinstall la langue anglaise mais kde est toujours english !
[10:26] <ritalin> !de
[10:26] <ubotu> hmm... de is #ubuntu-de bitte.
[10:26] <thomas> je comprend plus trop !
[10:26] <ritalin> ;)
[10:26] <deFrysk> !fr
[10:27] <izi> hi, I have a weird problem with gdm (i guess) on breezy badger
[10:27] <izi> i have a laptop with a wlan switch (on/off)
[10:27] <xukun> deFrysk, MrMaDSeN  I already instaled that pakage: libqt3c102-mt is already the newest version
[10:27] <izi> the card is an atheros and work well
[10:28] <izi> but at boot, if the switch is on, gdm freeze...
[10:28] <izi> weird
[10:28] <deFrysk> xukun, possibly skype in not compatible with breezy
[10:28] <Seveas> izi, :|
[10:28] <MrMaDSeN> xukun, its takes a while for skype to startup in linux....
[10:28] <MrMaDSeN> xukun, mine starts a bit slow.. dont know why... but it starts eventually
[10:29] <deFrysk> silly qt apps
[10:29] <zxsykco> Do you have problems if you turn on the switch after gdm loads?
[10:29] <izi> zxsykco: no it's ok
[10:29] <Lenhador> Why ubuntu and debian haven't php5 .deb package? what is the problem with php5?
[10:29] <izi> (except i have to ifup/down)
[10:30] <zxsykco> And before, but not during?
[10:30] <deFrysk> Lenhador, do apt-cache search php5 and check the results
[10:30] <izi> zxsykco: before and during, gdm freezes
[10:31] <zxsykco> Come to think of it... gdm probably starts automagically on your dist.
[10:31] <xukun> MrMaDSeN, You dont get it. I cant install skype at all, becouse of that dependance problem
[10:31] <Lenhador> deFrysk: Not found! :P
[10:31] <zxsykco> Beats the crap out of me. Sorry!
[10:31] <deFrysk> !php5
[10:31] <ubotu> somebody said php5 was available from deb http://people.debian.org/~dexter/php5 hoary
[10:32] <ritalin> !fuse
[10:32] <ubotu> ritalin: No idea
[10:32] <Gobbla> anybody here who has a sixxs account?
[10:32] <ritalin> !encfs
[10:32] <deFrysk> Lenhador, read what ubotu said
[10:32] <ubotu> ritalin: Not a clue
[10:32] <ritalin> worthless!
[10:32] <ompaul> Lenhador,  http://ie.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages
[10:32] <ompaul> 
[10:32] <ompaul> oops
[10:32] <MAPD> byebye gtg
[10:33] <zxsykco> Must be something different in the way ifup/down is starting your card and the alternate(start-up or whatever).
[10:33] <zxsykco> I'd start there.
[10:33] <ompaul> Lenhador, it is there in main there are 23 different php questions
[10:33] <hou5ton> by the way ... forgot to ask ... how does Ubuntu do with bluetooth .... mice and syncing a Treo 650?  Anyone know?
[10:33] <bimberi> !info php5 breezy
[10:33] <Lenhador> hmn
[10:33] <deFrysk> ompaul he has hoary
[10:33] <deFrysk> right ?
[10:33] <izi> zxsykco: should I report a bug ? (not sure if it will help ;)
[10:33] <Seveas> hou5ton, in breezy lots of bluetooth support has been added - I don't know the details myself though.
[10:33] <kuroishinzoo> where do i get new packages??
[10:34] <hou5ton> Seveas: ok ... great
[10:34] <ubotu> php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 20 kB
[10:34] <Answer>  kuroishinzoo: synaptic
[10:34] <Seveas> !tell kuroishinzoo about sources
[10:34] <izi> cause I can't give many details...
[10:34] <Lenhador> Today yet have people using apache1, php4, mysql 3... uh!
[10:34] <QMario> Welcome back Seveas!!! :)
[10:34] <kuroishinzoo> my packages on the cd dont work.. :(
[10:34] <zxsykco> If you feel like it! I usually beat my head into the side of my problems for a few days until I figure them out!
[10:34] <Answer> kuroishinzoo:  Are you sure the cd is in the drive
[10:35] <QMario> I think C++ is easy to learn after doing some Perl programming, but this is off topic, so I will stop. ;)
[10:35] <kuroishinzoo> gnome themes and gtk2 is impossible to install
[10:35] <zxsykco> As oppsed to bug reports!
[10:35] <Beryllium> is there a website for searching whatever repository Ubuntu pulls its packages from? Does it use apt-get?
[10:35] <kuroishinzoo> ya
[10:35] <hou5ton> Seveas: if i'm "pretty" comfortable with linux, but certianly not a guru .... would you say i'd be ok to go ahead and dual-boot Breezy on my laptop?
[10:35] <Seveas> hou5ton, you can even run breezy as main/only os :)
[10:35] <Lenhador> ompaul: what questions?
[10:35] <hou5ton> Seveas: in time, my friend.  :-)
[10:35] <hou5ton> in due time
[10:35] <deFrysk> hou5ton, breezy is pretty slick :)
[10:36] <bimberi> Beryllium: yes, it used apt-get.  http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:36] <ritalin> !rtorrent
[10:36] <ubotu> ritalin: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[10:36] <bimberi> *uses
[10:36] <zxsykco> Linux works alot better if it is installed over an old windows dist, Ive heard!!!
[10:37] <Beryllium> 5.04 is Hoary Hedgehod, right?
[10:37] <Seveas> no
[10:37] <Seveas> Hoary Hedgehog
[10:37] <ritalin> ubuntu is awesome
[10:37] <bimberi> Beryllium: close - Hedgehog
[10:37] <Seveas> with a g at the end
[10:37] <bimberi> :)
[10:37] <ompaul> Lenhador, packages was the work I meant to type - for breezy in answer to the questions apt-cache search php5 and then I did apt-cache policy php5 - this is all breezy
[10:37] <Beryllium> lol
[10:37] <Seveas> ritalin, indeed :)
[10:37] <Beryllium> well, I'm on Tylenol3 right now ... I can barely stay awake, accuracy is out the window
[10:37] <ritalin> my 2nd day on it and im in love
[10:37] <bimberi> Beryllium: :)
[10:37] <ritalin> everything just works(tm)
[10:38] <chmuri> hi
[10:38] <xukun> is there a newer package for l ibqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3- but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu2 is to be installed
[10:38] <ritalin> hi
[10:38] <Beryllium> ick! wine-200503? Puhleeze :( ... heheh
[10:38] <zxsykco> Ahoy!
[10:38] <Beryllium> ooh, I should check if I turned the stove off
[10:38] <Beryllium> brb
[10:38] <xukun> that is what skpe says if I want to install in breezy
[10:38] <chmuri> are there any developers ubuntu??
[10:39] <dabaR> xukun: your sources.list(repository list) is screwed up. you likely have backports enables, disable that, and tryu agfain.
[10:39] <knoppix__> hi
[10:39] <ritalin> hiya knoppix__
[10:39] <dabaR> chmuri: why?
[10:39] <ritalin> you are a great livecd
[10:39] <chmuri> beacuse i have sobie question about breezy
[10:39] <concept10> I installed the Opera Ubuntu deb from the main site and I get a error about libnpp.so cant be found, anyone fixed this yet?  Also Java doesnt work, it disables it.
[10:39] <chmuri> ;)
[10:40] <xukun> dabaR, hmm
[10:40] <dabaR> xukun: now that you gave more info, maybe not.
[10:40] <knoppix__> I'm looking for some help not possible to use ubuntu with network
[10:40] <Seveas> concept10, use the debian etch deb is you run breezy
[10:40] <deFrysk> !opera
[10:41] <ompaul> chmuri, *sobie* hu? newbie? or something else?
[10:41] <knoppix__> that's why i use knoppix
[10:41] <Seveas> ritalin, you know that gnoppix is based on ubuntu, do you?
[10:41] <Beryllium> to uninstall with apt-get, it's just "apt-get remove packagename", right?
[10:41] <chmuri> soory im form poland its in polish my mistake
[10:41] <chmuri> :P
[10:41] <Seveas> yes Beryllium
[10:41] <concept10> Seveas: im still on hoary
[10:41] <QMario> What happened to Ubotu?
[10:41] <deFrysk> concept10, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[10:41] <ritalin> Seveas: nah i didnt
[10:41] <QMario> Is "he" still here?
[10:41] <holycow> Beryllium, yes, on ubuntu you do sudo apt-get remove package
[10:41] <Beryllium> and does apt-get remove also remove orphaned dependencies?
[10:41] <ritalin> that makes it even cooler
[10:42] <[LethAL] > !lart QMario
[10:42] <holycow> Beryllium, no
[10:42] <holycow> Beryllium, there is an app to do that, i forget the name tho
[10:42] <[LethAL] > That says it all
[10:42] <Beryllium> ah
[10:42] <Beryllium> hrm
[10:42] <Seveas> ubotu, r you there?
[10:42] <ubotu> Yes, master!
[10:42] <ompaul> chmuri, ask the question and see what happens
[10:42] <Beryllium> holycow: When you say that I should use Sudo, do you mean that I shouldn't just su to root and then run it?
[10:42] <QMario> Hello ompaul!!! :)
[10:42] <Seveas> Beryllium, no
[10:42] <bimberi> Beryllium: have a look at deborphan and debfoster
[10:42] <Seveas> you should use sudo
[10:43] <ompaul> evening QMario
[10:43] <Beryllium> but ... but ... why? :)
[10:43] <concept10> deFrysk: Thanks for the link/info
[10:43] <xukun> can somebody help me a good breezy sources.list
[10:43] <Gobbla> how do you create a tunnel interface?
[10:43] <shadeofgrey> whats the command to install flash player and uh...  xpdf?
[10:43] <chmuri> ok im form polish community and i have a problem with laptop acpi power in gnome in breezy there whould bee now problem with acpi control in gnome..??
[10:43] <Seveas> apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla evince
[10:44] <deFrysk> hmm evince :)
[10:44] <ritalin> evince is awesome
[10:44] <ritalin> needs xchm support though
[10:44] <ritalin> I hear its in the works
[10:45] <bimberi> xukun: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325
[10:45] <shadeofgrey> ...couldnt find package.  can somebody help me out with a good sources.list file?
[10:45] <knoppix__> hello where can i find some information when all networks card hang and crash ubuntu (at hotplug chek)??
[10:45] <chmuri> yes
[10:45] <ompaul> chmuri, can you state the actual problem if it is a bug it should be put in bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[10:45] <chmuri> souroce list u want??
[10:45] <Seveas> !tell shadeofgrey about sources
[10:45] <holycow> ah, debfoster is pretty cool
[10:46] <holycow> neat
[10:46] <ompaul> chmuri, no, if you have a lot of data use paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[10:46] <chmuri> yes but i think that some one have te same problem as me
[10:47] <amorph> could anyone tell me whats the best graphic-card for linux if you want to have all that fancy-stuff (xcompmgr) ?
[10:47] <Answer> amorph: Have you checked the Ubuntu Wiki for HardwareSupport ?  It tells all about network card compatibility
[10:47] <ompaul> !pl
[10:47] <ubotu> ompaul: What?
[10:48] <deFrysk> amorph, xcompmgr not very stable yet but runs fine on my nvidia card ( dont use it tho)
[10:48] <Gh0sT> how can i add something to PATH
[10:48] <snausages> hey, does anyone here know where i can get a cheap NIC that'll work fine with ubuntu?
[10:48] <amorph> deFrysk: so there is no (stable) way to get some eyecandy ?
[10:48] <Gh0sT> Java exec not found in PATH, starting auto-search...
[10:48] <ompaul> chmuri, I have no answers for you, if there is a howto fix the problem you are facing it may be on wiki.ubuntu.com or the ubuntu forums
[10:48] <Seveas> Gh0sT, export PATH=/some/thing:$PATH
[10:48] <zxsykco> pricewatch.com
[10:48] <Gh0sT> ty
[10:48] <snausages> zxsykco which brand should i look for
[10:49] <zxsykco> snauages pricewatch.com
[10:49] <Seveas> Gh0sT, and install java properly so you don't need to add it to the path
[10:49] <Gh0sT> hrm i added the path to the jre folder, but its still not finding it
[10:49] <deFrysk> amorph, be patient , cairo supported themes will be available soon too
[10:49] <michaelrhead> hi
[10:49] <chmuri> all of peapole has ubuntu all ubuntu humanity world..:)
[10:49] <zxsykco> I think I have a netgear in this machine.
[10:50] <sorush20> guys I installed xfce4 and it said that it would need to install other packages, and It did, I don't like the evironment and I want to remove it but it seems that using synaptic  will only remove them one bay one
[10:50] <ompaul> chmuri,  :)
[10:50] <michaelrhead> I've got a problem with breezy, and I'm wondering if anyone else is seeing it.
[10:50] <Hikaru79> Can '.cue' images be mounted, or just '.iso'? And if so, how?
[10:50] <zxsykco> Honestly nost NIC should work .. Google for compatibilty!
[10:50] <boxerboy29> is it possible for me to register a name for someone else?
[10:50] <Seveas> bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchink
[10:51] <zxsykco> I'd check the cheapestn one first!
[10:51] <Hikaru79> Seveas, ah, I see! =) Thanks!
[10:51] <michaelrhead> on one of my breezy machines, wnck-applet pegs the CPU from time to time, which locks up the window-list, window selector and desktop switcher applets
[10:51] <eastein> I've got a bit of an issue
[10:51] <spoilerhead> hi, returned wit han other problem. i've got a notebook with a sis gfx chip. it works fine with the xorg sis driver, but whenswitching to a text console the screen turnsblack, swithcing back to X works fine. it alsoworks fine with the vesaxorg driver.anyideas?
[10:51] <chmuri> i have 1200 for www any one interest for some site about ubuntu??:)
[10:51] <chmuri> 1200 megs
[10:51] <eastein> I want my default screen resolution to be 1280x1024 but it keeps staying 1024x768
[10:51] <eastein> why is it doing this?
[10:51] <michaelrhead> if I killall wnck-applet, then the panel asks me if I want to reload, and the applets reload and it works OK
[10:52] <michaelrhead> but from time to time, wnck-applet will peg the CPU again
[10:52] <michaelrhead> eastein: what video card do you have?
[10:52] <eastein> uh
[10:52] <eastein> ati rage 128 pro
[10:52] <michaelrhead> eastein: also, how are you trying to set the resolution
[10:52] <Gh0sT> i keep getting an error with java where it cant find the java exec, and i get ls: cannot find /../.. no such directory
[10:52] <eastein> I can set it to what I want, it just doesn't stay that way
[10:52] <eastein> michaelrhead: in preferences -> screen resolution
[10:53] <boxerboy29> eastein: does your montier/video card support 1280x1024
[10:53] <eastein> yes
[10:53] <eastein> definitely
[10:53] <eastein> it works
[10:53] <eastein> it just defaults back to 1024
[10:53] <chmuri> in x config
[10:53] <eastein> when I log in again
[10:53] <deFrysk> eastein, check your hor. and vert. frequenties
[10:53] <Echelon-H> is it just me or ubuntuguide.org is not working?
[10:53] <eastein> 60 hz
[10:53] <snausages> Echelon-H its down
[10:53] <eastein> I'm SURE that it works
[10:53] <jamey3> Echelon-H, ubuntuguide.org is highly unrecommended
[10:53] <michaelrhead> eastein: so does it switch into that resolution when you set it?
[10:53] <eastein> I can set it
[10:53] <eastein> yes
[10:53] <Hallucination> eastein - i think you have to enter the correct values for your monitor in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[10:53] <deFrysk> !tell Echelon-H about ubuntuguide
[10:53] <Echelon-H> jamey3, and why is that?
[10:53] <eastein> but it goes back
[10:54] <eastein> this is not a hardware issue
[10:54] <Answer> eastein: try to combine your many lines into less
[10:54] <jamey3> Echelon-H, because the information provided is sometimes wrong, out-of-date and it doesn't tell the user why they're doing what they are doing
[10:54] <boxerboy29> defrysk can u send that to me too?
[10:54] <Echelon-H> deFrysk, thx :)
[10:54] <jamey3> the official Ubuntu Wiki is the best source of information
[10:54] <michaelrhead> eastein: try ticking the "make default for this computer" option
[10:54] <chmuri> its ubuntu a good distro for serwer??
[10:54] <eastein> I did
[10:54] <Echelon-H> is there any equivelant i can use?
[10:54] <Seveas> chmuri, yes
[10:54] <deFrysk> !tell Echelon-H about faq
[10:54] <Echelon-H> or just break my head against synaptic?
[10:54] <chmuri> seveas why??:)
[10:55] <Seveas> because it is
[10:55] <Echelon-H> breezy is not out yet :P
[10:55] <z|bandito> is this #ubuntu or #ubuntu-unregged?  do you automagically rejoin #ubuntu once identified?  my client is being a bit weird
[10:55] <Echelon-H> ubuntu...
[10:55] <jamey3> z|bandito, this is #ubuntu
[10:55] <deFrysk> unregged still in use ?
[10:55] <Seveas> stable distro, good security support, recent packages
[10:55] <eastein> it looks like xorg.conf is fine... nothing odd about it
[10:55] <Seveas> deFrysk, not right now
[10:55] <eastein> 1280x1024 is in it
[10:55] <Gh0sT> sh = move folders right
[10:55] <michaelrhead> eastein: hm... well, I suppose you can run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' from a terminal and select the resolution you want in there
[10:55] <deFrysk> eastein, how is it set in your desktop prefs ?
[10:56] <eastein> I guess so
[10:56] <Answer> Gh0st:  cp -R  or mv -R
[10:56] <Seveas> -r
[10:56] <z|bandito> i dunno; 10:53:*** Mode for channel #ubuntu is +tncPf #ubuntu-unregged
[10:56] <eastein> deFrysk: right now it's set to 1280x1024
[10:56] <Seveas> not -R
[10:56] <Gh0sT> so like
[10:56] <Gh0sT> mv -r Desktop/blah /usr/bin/blah
[10:56] <Gh0sT> for instance
[10:56] <eastein> I can always set it... but it always goes back to my old settings when I log out
[10:56] <chmuri> what its the best configuration for ssh php+myql and proxy servwer??
[10:56] <eastein> chmuri: that depends on what you're doing
[10:56] <Answer> Gh0st:  in general the -r option is for Recursive
[10:56] <Seveas> z|bandito, that means you are forwarded to the -unregged channel when you cannot join this one
[10:56] <eastein> if there was a universal you wouldn't be allowed to configure it
[10:56] <deFrysk> eastein, system>prefs> screenresolution, how is it set there ?
[10:56] <z|bandito> i see
[10:57] <eastein> deFrysk: 1280x1024, but I'll check
[10:57] <chmuri> eastein a serwer:D:D
[10:57] <eastein> ok
[10:57] <eastein> I had just logged in
[10:57] <Seveas> chmuri, openssh-server, apache2, libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, squid
[10:57] <eastein> so it was at 1024x768 60hz.  I just changed it to 1280x1024 60hz and it works fine
[10:58] <deFrysk> eastein, ;p
[10:58] <spoilerhead> is the firefoxpackage broken?
[10:58] <chmuri> for sexuirity??
[10:58] <ritalin> night
[10:58] <eastein> the resolution DID change, and I clicked the make default box
[10:58] <eastein> now if I log out and back in it will go back
[10:58] <Gh0sT> E: Package j2sdk1.4 has no installation candidate
[10:58] <Seveas> eastein, remove the resolution you don't want from xorg.conf ;)
[10:58] <Gh0sT> i keep getting those errors
[10:58] <Seveas> Gh0sT, breezy?
[10:58] <boxerboy29> is scrollz just terminal based?
[10:58] <deFrysk> bedtime for this old geezer
[10:59] <Gh0sT> uh i think?
[10:59] <Gh0sT> lol
[10:59] <eastein> Seveas: I guess I could do that... I'd like to be able to set anything I want though
[10:59] <Gh0sT> sad i dont even remember.
[10:59] <eastein> any other ideas?
[10:59] <Gh0sT> but its the one that last came out not the preview for the new one
[10:59] <Seveas> Gh0sT, that's hoary
[10:59] <Seveas> hoary doesn't include java
[10:59] <Gh0sT> i know
[10:59] <eastein> meh, I guess I'll settle for that
[10:59] <Gh0sT> whenever i try to install it
[10:59] <Seveas> you can download java debs from ubuntu.tower-net.de
[10:59] <Gh0sT> i get that eerror
[10:59] <Seveas> and install the debs with dpkg -i
[11:00] <chmuri> ok in poland we have 11PM i go to sleep now..:) bye everyone..
[11:00] <Gh0sT> hrmmmm
[11:00] <Gh0sT> i did
[11:00] <Gh0sT> and now im getting errors
[11:00] <Seveas> you don't neet to apt-get it then....
[11:00] <Hallucination> why isnt xorgconfig included in breezer?
[11:00] <zxsykco> I've had that problem when either my monitor or my graphics card couldn't handle the screen resolution. It would allow me to change the depth in xwindows but wouldn't save and if I ran something graphics intensive it would lock up!
[11:00] <zxsykco> Those were older machines though.
[11:00] <Gh0sT> runLime.sh: line 117: java: command not found
[11:00] <Gh0sT> is the error i get
[11:00] <Hallucination> or is it and i just cant find it?
[11:00] <Gh0sT> >.<
[11:00] <sorush20> how do I find out who what is eating my band width
[11:01] <Seveas> Gh0sT, dpkg -l '*sun*'
[11:01] <Seveas> put the output on the pastebin
[11:01] <Gh0sT> i already told you
[11:01] <Gh0sT> that i already installed it
[11:01] <zxsykco> In fact it was an s3 savage and a viewsonic 15gs!
[11:01] <Seveas> apparentl not...
[11:01] <Gh0sT> apparently *
[11:01] <Gh0sT> i did.
[11:01] <Gh0sT> i know for a fact.
[11:01] <eastein> ok, this is fucked up
[11:01] <eastein> I REMOVED everything but 1280x1024 and it still defaults to 1024...
[11:01] <Seveas> Gh0sT, whatever, if you don't want me to help I won't...
[11:01] <Gh0sT> i want your help
[11:01] <eastein> I restarted x and everything
[11:01] <Gh0sT> i just dont want your god damn attitude
[11:02] <Gh0sT> its makeing me mad
[11:02] <bjron> I've recently upgraded my laptop from hoary to breezy, and have a bug which I'm not sure what package to submit it to:  the new boot screen is cut off at the bottom.  I only see what was printed ~2 lines earlier
[11:02] <Seveas> Gh0sT, your attitude is at fault here, i'm just asking for diagnostic info
[11:02] <Seveas> Gh0sT: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[11:02] <eastein> I guess nobody knows why this fucked up thing is happening
[11:02] <eastein> oh well
[11:02] <Hallucination> eastein are your HorzSync and VertRefresh values set to the correct values of your monitor?
[11:03] <Gh0sT> you started with an attitude first
[11:03] <Gh0sT> so
[11:03] <Gh0sT> stfu
[11:03] <Gh0sT> lol
[11:03] <Gh0sT> eat a dick
[11:03] <eastein> Hallucination: I think this has more to do with something wrong with gnome
[11:03] <zxsykco> Yes what the hallucinations said?!
[11:03] <eastein> my monitor works fine on BOTH settings
[11:03] <zxsykco> Take a chill pill man! Your crampin' my style!
[11:03] <eastein> but the default SOFTWARE setting is 1024x768 even though I don't want it to be
[11:04] <eastein> o_0 that was a bit freaky
[11:04] <Hallucination> eastein - actually it doesnt work fine, thats why you ask
[11:04] <maci> anyone know how i can turn of UTF-8 ??? dvr sais i need to
[11:04] <eastein> Hallucination: dot dot dot
[11:04] <eastein> the monitor works fine
[11:04] <eastein> this has nothing to do with frequency at all
[11:04] <sorush20> I can't access my router form a browser can someone help.. I can ping the router but can't access it..
[11:04] <Hallucination> eastein - if your frequency setting are too low, it might prevent your monitor from entering a higher resulution..
[11:04] <Hallucination> just guessing here of course
[11:05] <eastein> uhy
[11:05] <D1> sorush20, what kind of router?
[11:05] <eastein> it CAN enter the higher resolution
[11:05] <eastein> it's the DEFAULT SOFTWARE SETTING that has a problem with STAYING the default
[11:05] <sorush20> D1: linksys
[11:05] <sorush20> D1: linksys wireless
[11:05] <eastein> the default defaults to the default I don't want anymore and specifically changed
[11:05] <sorush20> how do I find out who what is eating my band width
[11:06] <D1> weird
[11:06] <Hallucination> eastein - maybe the software prevents from entering to the defaults BECAUSE your frequency is too low...... now go and check the damn values and see if they are set correctly
[11:06] <bjron> eastein,  I might have an idea, but I missed what your problem is exactly
[11:06] <D1> I have a linksys wireless too, but nothing like those issues.
[11:06] <eastein> Hallucination: shut up, you don't have a clue :)
[11:06] <D1> guess you reset the router and everything to factory settings and it still doesn't work?
[11:06] <Seveas> Hallucination, eastein, chill....
[11:06] <eastein> bjron: I'll recap for you
[11:07] <Hallucination> lol? me chill? I was trying to help the retard
[11:07] <Hallucination> anyway
[11:07] <Hallucination> i chill
[11:07] <eastein> lol
[11:07] <Seveas> Hallucination: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[11:07] <Hallucination> stick your code of conduct in your booty pls
[11:07] <eastein> uhoh
[11:07] <eastein> somebody doesn't like following rules
[11:08] <eastein> bjron: pretty much, my monitor video card and x config work.
[11:08] <sorush20> D1: tab compelete my name so I don't miss what you say.. and yes you are right I have a problem I can't even access the routers default settings etc..
[11:08] <sorush20> D1: I have never been able to access the page..
[11:08] <eastein> so right now the default resolution (specified by gnome?) is 1024
[11:08] <eastein> so I click system>preferences>screen res
[11:08] <eastein> select 1280
[11:08] <eastein> check the box
[11:08] <eastein> click apply
[11:09] <bjron> yea, ok
[11:09] <bjron> try Applications-->System Tools-->Configuration editor
[11:09] <eastein> ok
[11:09] <worthawholebean> Hi! I'm having problem with Debian package manager.
[11:09] <eastein> maybe it'll work better
[11:09] <bjron> and then go to /desktop/gnome/screen/default/0 and edit the "resolution" key.
[11:09] <Echelon-H> why ain't my key shortcuts working under fluxbox?
[11:09] <bjron> I had a similar problem a while back (it's in the third post)
[11:09] <bjron> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18147
[11:09] <eastein> ok bjron
[11:09] <eastein> did that
[11:09] <zxsykco> eastein: just to be safe, would you mind telling me what monitor you have and I'll do a quick check for ya?
[11:10] <eastein> zxsykco: sure
[11:10] <eastein> it's a 19" DELL lcd
[11:10] <Seveas> bjron, i'm following allong, but don't see /desktop/gnome/screen
[11:10] <bjron> hrm, perhaps something has changed since march
[11:10] <eastein> Seveas: it's ok, it was there for me
[11:10] <worthawholebean> Whenever I try install something, it tries to make me put in my install CD. I do so, but it can't detect it.
[11:10] <Seveas> eastein, hoary?
[11:10] <eastein> zxsykco: I can't find the bloody model number
[11:10] <eastein> but I'm 100% sure it supports it
[11:11] <eastein> heh
[11:11] <eastein> mine definitely can
[11:11] <eastein> no doubt about it
[11:11] <zxsykco> No rush. Seveas may very solve your problem first!
[11:11] <eastein> I use it at that res all the time and the box said that res on it
[11:11] <eastein> I think bjron already did
[11:11] <zxsykco> Or someone else for that matter ..
[11:11] <Seveas> zxsykco, I won't probablym, I just try to follow bjron's tips :)
[11:11] <Answer> eastein: so you just need to set that as the default so it starts at that resolution?
[11:11] <worthawholebean> never mind
[11:11] <Seveas> bjron, are you tunning hoary or breezy?
[11:11] <eastein> Answer: yes.
[11:12] <boxerboy29> am i me again?
[11:12] <boxerboy29> yay
[11:12] <eastein> that's what I've been saying this whole time and you people are all thinking I have hardware trouble
[11:12] <boxerboy29> ok brb
[11:12] <eastein> heh
[11:12] <eastein> brb, checking if this worked
[11:12] <bjron> Seveas, well, I guess when made that post it was probably hoary, pre release
[11:12] <Rhisc> hi
[11:12] <Seveas> that would explain me not seeing that key -- I use breezy :)
[11:12] <ritalin> got fuse working
[11:13] <ompaul> ritalin, that is called clapping
[11:13] <ritalin> heh
[11:13] <zxsykco> I was just making sure that hallucination wasn't getting worked up for nothin! Maybe he knew for "sure" that was the prob.
[11:13] <Answer> eastein: are you using XFree86 ?
[11:13] <eastein> xorg
[11:13] <bjron> yea, mb they fixed it so ppl didn't have that strange problem of not having the resolution saved when they click "save resolution" or make default or whatever
[11:13] <eastein> it worked, thanks bjron
[11:13] <ritalin> on ubuntu how do i make sure a module is loaded when i boot?
[11:13] <bjron> eastein, no prob,
[11:13] <eastein> this problem had been bothering me for a week
[11:14] <eastein> :)
[11:14] <Seveas> ritalin, add its name to /etc/modules
[11:14] <ritalin> Seveas: ty again
[11:14] <johannes> Hi, I seem to have a problem getting any sound in vlc. Everywhere but vlc plays sound just fine.. Any notions on where to look? I've installed ALSA plugin, but that didnt do it..
[11:14] <bjron> heh, eventually you luck out and someone has had the same problem :P
[11:14] <Toba|BSD> hehe yeah
[11:14] <crimsun> johannes: you have to disable esd if you do that
[11:15] <Toba|BSD> I think this is a serious issue myself
[11:15] <Toba|BSD> when I click default I expect it to be default
[11:15] <Toba|BSD> heh
[11:15] <Seveas> sort of :)
[11:15] <spoilerhead> johannes install vlc-plugin-esd
[11:15] <johannes> okay, will do
[11:15] <D1> is ubuntu using gamin by default?
[11:15] <ompaul> Toba|BSD, for values of $default
[11:15] <spoilerhead> and then select esd in the vlc options
[11:15] <Seveas> D1, only hoary
[11:15] <D1> what about breezy?
[11:15] <bjron> yea, funny thing was, if I remember correctly, that checkbox was setting the value for one key, and it was getting read from a different key
[11:16] <Echelon-H> how can I install nvidia drivers on linux?
[11:16] <sorush20> how do I find out howmany computers are connected to my network and what their bandwidth usages are
[11:16] <Seveas> D1, hmm, breezy too
[11:16] <Toba|BSD> bjron: some developer fucked up methinks
[11:16] <Seveas> !tell Echelon-H about nvidia
[11:16] <yacoob> Eh, F1.
[11:16] <bwlang> sorush20: you need to put some software on a device that they all connect to - eg the firewall. - i like iptraf
[11:17] <yacoob> I've bumped into ata_piix SATA problem
[11:17] <yacoob> once drivers for piix are loaded, cd is unacessible :(
[11:17] <bjron> Toba, yea, but hopefully it's been fixed in breezy
[11:17] <Toba|BSD> while I'm here... how do I enable identd in irssi?
[11:17] <yacoob> (during installation)
[11:17] <yacoob> any fix for that?
[11:17] <Toba|BSD> err
[11:17] <Toba|BSD> in ubuntu
[11:17] <Seveas> Toba|BSD, install pidentd :)
[11:17] <Toba|BSD> bah
[11:17] <Toba|BSD> I have to INSTALL something?
[11:17] <Seveas> (or any identd you want)
[11:17] <Seveas> yes
[11:17] <D1> how is pidentd?
[11:18] <Seveas> ubuntu has no open ports by default
[11:18] <D1> does it work out of the box?
[11:18] <Toba|BSD> does pidentd actually work properly or is it one of those ones that only returns ONE id ever?
[11:18] <Seveas> and installing pidentd takes one command
[11:18] <Seveas> it works properly
[11:18] <Toba|BSD> k
[11:18] <johannes> That did the trick, cheers!
[11:18] <Toba|BSD> do I have to enable it or is installing it enough?
[11:19] <Seveas> installing is enabling
[11:19] <Toba> w00t
[11:19] <Toba> should be good now then
[11:19] <Toba> I'm tired of seeing a ~ in front of my name on irc :)
[11:19] <NovaFlash> linux is all about installing things. we love installing things. we don't just use the command "install music" or "install videocard". That would be too easy, too.. uninteresting. We linux users must always obscure the means by which we do things to seemingly elevate our level of understanding of the cosmos to such height that no mere mortal can understand us.
[11:19] <puff> I'm trying an apt-get dist-upgrade to breezy.  SEemed to go okay so far, though it didn't like the backports in the sources.list
[11:19] <Toba> NovaFlash: lol
[11:19] <bjron> So, anyone know what package to submit a bug against for issues with the new splash screen that breezy boots with (or the resulting terminal afterward if you ctrl-alt-F1 out of X)
[11:19] <NovaFlash> toba: did you mean.. sudo NovaFlash: lol? ;)
[11:19] <Seveas> bjron, usplash
[11:20] <Lars_G> Greetings all.
[11:20] <Toba> I don't run strangers as root, No1Viking
[11:20] <bjron> Seveas, thanks
[11:20] <Toba> err
[11:20] <NovaFlash> lol
[11:20] <Toba> NovaFlash
[11:20] <Lars_G> First of all, I'm not new to Debian, but I am new to Ubuntu, and I am so happy I could cry
[11:20] <Toba> gah, innuendo...
[11:20] <No1Viking> ?
[11:20] <NovaFlash> Toba: but i'll be good! really. ;)
[11:20] <Toba> sorry
[11:20] <puff> A while ago, it displayed Extracting templates from packages: 100%\nPreconfiguring packages ...
[11:20] <Toba> tab error No1Viking
[11:20] <puff> And now it's just sitting there.
[11:20] <No1Viking> OK
[11:20] <puff> Of course, I'm actually logged into this machine at this moment.
[11:20] <NovaFlash> NovaFlash: i will now cease to be funny.
[11:20] <puff> Er, into the GUI.  Is this considerd unadvisable?
[11:21] <ompaul> Toba|BSD, it should be good to go, the bottom line is [as someone told me last week {wink at Seveas}]  if you install it on ubuntu/debian it works - you installed it because you wanted it didn't you :) some exceptions - asterisk but thats a different story
[11:21] <D1> hmmm
[11:21] <D1> that didn't seem to work.
[11:21] <zxsykco> Would anyone like to tell me where to find out how to use operator status? As I have operator status on two channels now and am new to irc.
[11:21] <Toba> yeah, asterisk is complicated enough that there is no good default setup
[11:21] <cyrus> hola q tal alguien tiene un scrip
[11:21] <Toba> you gotta set that up yourself :)
[11:21] <Seveas> cyrus -> #ubuntu-es
[11:21] <vpalle_> anyone seen my dog? its big and hairy
[11:22] <Lars_G> asterisk is pretty complicated, yes, but usefull too :)
[11:22] <Toba> vpalle: no, sorry... dogs don't go on IRC much anyway
[11:22] <D1> I ate it.
[11:22] <Seveas> vpalle_ -> #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[11:22] <Toba> try looking "outdoors"
[11:22] <Toba> :)
[11:22] <NovaFlash> vpalle: updatedb , then try a locate dog
[11:22] <Seveas> Toba, #outdoors?
[11:22] <zxsykco> I know google is my master, but I prefer speaking with living beings!
[11:22] <NovaFlash> zxsykco: is is a common word and was not included in your search parameters.
[11:22] <Toba> Cannot join #real_life (you are banned)
[11:22] <Lars_G> you're a little off topic, you could try asking in #freenode
[11:22] <Toba> oh noes
[11:23] <yacoob> guess I've run into that: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26229.html
[11:23] <cyrus> some girl from japan ?????????
[11:23] <Toba|BSD> cyrus: wtf are you talking about?
[11:23] <Seveas> cyrus, highly unlikely and very off-topic
[11:23] <D1> how exactly do I enable pidentd?
[11:23] <cyrus> :)
[11:23] <Toba|BSD> install it, D1
[11:23] <Seveas> D1, apt-get install pidentd
[11:23] <D1> I did.
[11:23] <Seveas> then it's enabled
[11:23] <D1> its not running
[11:23] <Seveas> it's run from inetd
[11:23] <cyrus> seveas???????
[11:23] <Toba|BSD> heh
[11:23] <Toba|BSD> inetd isn't on either
[11:24] <zxsykco> Google it is!
[11:24] <D1> oh, thats why.
[11:24] <Toba|BSD> I guess I need to enable that
[11:24] <Toba|BSD> but HOW
[11:24] <Seveas> that's on by default
[11:24] <Toba|BSD> huh
[11:24] <Seveas> or else, install netkit-inetd
[11:24] <Lars_G> Toba|BSD: I preffer xinetd
[11:24] <ompaul> D1, now check for xinetd
[11:25] <Seveas> hmm, in hoary netkit-inetd was installed by default
[11:25] <Seveas> since breezy no more :)
[11:25] <Answer> since next month
[11:25] <Toba> brb
[11:25] <puff> Still stuck on "Preconfiguring packages ..."
[11:25] <puff> What's the risk if I kill this process?
[11:25] <mindframe> im having problems with my onboard wireless card(Broadcom BCM4306 onboard) since installing breezy.  the card is detected fine but, iwconfig picks it up, but it just wont get an ip address from my router.  could there be some misconfiguration somewhere with ndiswrapper?
[11:26] <Lars_G> Seveas: I guess upgrading distros is as easy as with debian?
[11:26] <Toba> huh
[11:26] <Seveas> Lars_G, yup
[11:26] <Toba> it looks like it's still disabled
[11:26] <Answer> mindframe: Did you try dhclient eth1 ?
[11:26] <D1> the heck is up with that that n=?
[11:26] <D1> I get that too.
[11:26] <NovaFlash> mindframe: and also.. did you try getting like version 1.2 yet?
[11:26] <Lars_G> D1: It means you're not identified with nickserv
[11:26] <Seveas> D1, look at the freenode faq
[11:26] <Toba> xinetd and pidentd are both installed
[11:26] <mindframe> Answer, /etc/init.d/networking restart does that
[11:26] <Toba> but no luck
[11:26] <D1> weird, i should be.
[11:26] <Toba> meh
[11:26] <mindframe> NovaFlash, let me check my version
[11:27] <Answer> mindframe:  What happens when you try   "dhclient eth1"
[11:27] <NovaFlash> (magic!)
[11:27] <NovaFlash> ;)
[11:27] <Lars_G> mindframe: Have you set the card to configure dynamically in the network interfaces config?
[11:28] <mindframe> yes Lars_G
[11:28] <Lars_G> k
[11:28] <Rhisc> does anyone know how to install ati drivers?
[11:28] <Seveas> !ati
[11:28] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[11:28] <boxerboy29> how do you chat with someone not in the room?
[11:28] <Lars_G> ANd are you sure you'e entering the valid iwconfig values? if any of them is wrong it won't connect to the AP, and thus won't get an ip
[11:28] <puff> Lars_G: Hm, Idaknow, I'm not finding it as easyt, but then again I haven't done it that many times on debian.
[11:28] <Answer> boxerboy29:  /msg nickname
[11:28] <boxerboy29> answer ty
[11:29] <Lars_G> boxerboy29: /msg them, or open a window "/query <nick>" but it's bad netiquete to do it without asking in a room first
[11:29] <mindframe> Lars_G, on my other laptop it does everything automatically.  i have essid set to any in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:29] <boxerboy29> lars its a freind of mine not in room
[11:29] <Lars_G> mindframe: No idea then. Sorry.
[11:29] <Answer> mindframe:  pastebin your ifconfig iwconfig and dhclient eth1 :)
[11:29] <Lars_G> boxerboy29: then open a chat window to him "/query <nickname>"
[11:30] <NovaFlash> mindframe: i had problems getting my linksys card to work with the built-in version of ndiswrapper. i downloaded and compiled the 1.2 version with the help of a guide. everything works perfectly now. i even got wpasupplicant to work for wpa-psk encryption.
[11:30] <NovaFlash> mindframe: perhaps an 'upgrade' might be just what you need
[11:30] <Lars_G> afaik you should avoid ndiswrapper whenever you can
[11:30] <mindframe> ill try that NovaFlash, thanks
[11:31] <D1> NovaFlash, does your card report signal strengths correctly or are they always at 100%?
[11:31] <Echelon-H> what is the command to look for a file in my comp?
[11:31] <thoreauputic> Echelon-H: depends - the quick way is "locate"
[11:32] <Answer> Echelon-H:  locate, find, whereis
[11:32] <ritalin> beagle!
[11:32] <puff> What's the deal with the "couldn't stat source package" errors?
[11:32] <Echelon-H> thx
[11:32] <Lars_G> ritalin: I took you this morning
[11:32] <rigel> is there some linux metronome or drum machine package out there?
[11:32] <ritalin> Lars_G: good boy
[11:32] <thoreauputic> Echelon-H: but "locate" depends on a data-base that's normally updated once a day
[11:32] <rigel>  because i cant find it with aptitude
[11:32] <jroes> anyone know what happened to ubuntuguide.org ?
[11:32] <rekrutacja> is beagle working with 5.04?
[11:32] <Seveas> puff, you need to apt-get update
[11:32] <cyrus> someone girl for france????????????????
[11:32] <Seveas> jroes, it's off-line :D
[11:32] <jroes> I was looking for some information on getting a linksys wireless card working in ubuntu...
[11:32] <Lars_G> cyrus: Drop it please.
[11:32] <Echelon-H> so where's xorg.conf?
[11:32] <ritalin> I take adderall but the nick stuck even when i switched meds
[11:33] <jroes> Seveas: yeah, is there anything I can do to help out?
[11:33] <Seveas> Echelon-H, /etc/X11
[11:33] <jroes> Seveas: are there mirrors?
[11:33] <Lars_G> Echelon-H: /etc/X11
[11:33] <Seveas> jroes, i hope not...
[11:33] <D1> so do I! =D
[11:33] <Lars_G> Seveas: Should we start a chorus?
[11:33] <D1> how many mg?
[11:33] <Seveas> ubuntuguide.org sucks
[11:33] <Answer> Echelon-H: type in "locate xorg.conf"
[11:33] <ritalin> D1: 20mg twice daily so 40 total
[11:33] <puff> Seveas: hm, I did;  sudo apt-get update<enter> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade<enter>
[11:33] <ritalin> you?
[11:33] <D1> ah, 60mg
[11:33] <ritalin> cool
[11:33] <D1> 30x2
[11:33] <ritalin> its good stuff
[11:33] <kataklsym> can i add the option v4l  to my /etc/X11/xorg.conf without messing anything up?  i dont want to have to do an dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, cuz ubuntu 5.10Breezy has problems with that, so if i just use vi and add v4l in the options should it work ok?
[11:33] <Lars_G> ritalin: 10 Mg 3 times a day, plus 20Mg paxil once a day
[11:33] <Seveas> ritalin, D1 -> #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:33] <D1> haha, I dont know. I barely feel it.
[11:34] <Lars_G> Seveas: Sorry
[11:34] <ritalin> heh
[11:34] <ritalin> ok
[11:34] <ritalin> sorry
[11:34] <Echelon-H> thanks
[11:34] <rekrutacja> is there anyone succesfully using beagle in hoary?
[11:34] <GranMaestro> Hi there, any ppc Users here wanting to share their knowledge or is there  a dedicated channel?
[11:34] <Lars_G> rekrutacja: What is beagle?
[11:34] <Seveas> kataklsym, it should work...
[11:34] <D1> I did with some backports packages
[11:34] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[11:34] <ubotu> methinks anyone is 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[11:34] <satori> anyone aware of a repo with sun-j2re1.5
[11:34] <Orbman> could someone point me to a nice UML (user-mode-linux) guide for Ubuntu, i have an outdated debian one but it isnt any good now and i have a gentoo one, but lots of things are different
[11:34] <D1> but I dont think it was ever submitted
[11:34] <D1> the beagle topic that is..
[11:34] <Seveas> satori, hoary or breezy?
[11:34] <satori> Seveas,  hoary
[11:34] <Seveas> satori, ubuntu.tower-net.de
[11:35] <puff> How long does it usually take for the "preconfiguring packages" step of a dist-upgrade to breezy?
[11:35] <satori> Seveas,  still a little nervous to upgrade to breezy
[11:35] <rekrutacja> lars_g it's a desktop search for linux tool, similar to apple spotlight or windwos google desktop
[11:35] <Lars_G> ubotu: Good luck, unless you're very strong handed about it, people will keep doing it
[11:35] <ubotu> Lars_G: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[11:35] <QMario> Hello thoreauputic!!! :) I haven't seen you in a long time! ;)
[11:35] <kataklsym> Seveas: can i restart the xserver without losing anything im doing? i mean when it restarts bring everything back up that i have up now?
[11:35] <Seveas> puff, if you see/hear no disk-activity something went wrong
[11:35] <Lars_G> rekrutacja: Hmm ok, I'll read about it.
[11:35] <thoreauputic> QMario: hello
[11:35] <ritalin> any f-spot users?
[11:35] <Seveas> kataklsym, no
[11:35] <Lars_G> ubotu: Doh you're the bot.
[11:35] <ubotu> Lars_G: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:35] <kataklsym> ok
[11:35] <kataklsym> didnt think so
[11:35] <D1> breezy is running on my laptop pretty well.
[11:35] <GranMaestro> Jus a quick question about a fresh install on ubuntu ppc that doesn't detect my usb keyboard hence makes impossible to login
[11:35] <QMario> Seveas, is cyrus a spambot?
[11:35] <D1> still haven't setup suspend/resume but other than that its good.
[11:35] <puff> Seveas: Okay, in that case, somethign went wrong.
[11:35] <kataklsym> is the option for v4l case sensitive?  cuz i dont know if its V4l V4L v4l or what
[11:36] <Seveas> QMario, no, just a <insert colorful phrase here>...
[11:36] <puff> Should I drop back and punt to a CD-ROM install?
[11:36] <Seveas> v4l
[11:36] <Answer> !tell Lars_G about ubotu
[11:36] <NovaFlash> Seveas: oh let me guess.. rainbow?
[11:36] <kataklsym> thanks seveas
[11:36] <Lars_G> No need to tell me on ubotu, I realized it's a bot
[11:36] <ritalin> !tell ritalin about ubotu
[11:36] <Orbman> Anyon got a nice UML (User-Mode-Linux) Guide for Ubuntu ?
[11:37] <Orbman> anyone rather
[11:37] <Answer> UML = Unified Modelling Language, an OMG Standard...
[11:37] <QMario> Wow, Ubotu is kinder now. :)
[11:37] <ritalin> ubotu ritalin is the coolest
[11:37] <ubotu> ...but ritalin is already something else...
[11:37] <ritalin> dang
[11:37] <thoreauputic> !lart QMario
[11:37] <Seveas> ritalin, do NOT play with the bot
[11:37] <Lars_G> !ritalin
[11:37] <thoreauputic> QMario: you were saying?
[11:38] <thoreauputic> *grin*
[11:38] <ritalin> :(
[11:38] <ompaul> Answer you could also say object managlement group
[11:38] <QMario> Thoreauputic, what was that all about? :'(
[11:38] <thoreauputic> QMario: you said ubotu was kinder now ;-)
[11:38] <ompaul> QMario, to prove the bot is the bot
[11:38] <karen> hi--- my computer all of the sudden stopped working.  I have the red exclamaiton on it ... unable to send print file to printer: no such device.  what did i do wrong?
[11:38] <D1> Skubuntu Screenshots
[11:38] <QMario> "Ubotu:Lars_G: I don't know, could you explain it?" He was kinder in responding this time. :)
[11:38] <D1> whats skubuntu?
[11:38] <karen> i meant my printer
[11:38] <QMario> Hello Ubotu!
[11:39] <thoreauputic> QMario: don't anthropomorphise bots - they don't like it!
[11:39] <Seveas> D1, dunno, probably a weird 3rd party project...
[11:39] <ompaul> D1, south african school kde ubuntu
[11:39] <D1> ohh.
[11:39] <Lars_G> QMario: Each time you say my name, you owe me royalties.
[11:39] <Seveas> ahhh, that's not a weird one
[11:39] <Answer> ompaul: obfuscating mismanagement gerks
[11:39] <Seveas> but a cool one :)
[11:39] <QMario> Lars_G, why?
[11:39] <kataklsym> anyone here have a webcam that uses spca50x driver?
[11:39] <Lars_G> QMario: Why, It's a most innovative name I created.
[11:40] <QMario> What does it mean?
[11:40] <ompaul> Answer that was a bit extreme, did you test it first?
[11:40] <Lars_G> QMario: It was only a fake of destiny my parents gave the same name to me.
[11:40] <Lars_G> QMario: Nothing, meaningfull names are tied to trends
[11:40] <QMario> Ompaul, how was that a pun?
[11:41] <Answer> ompaul: www.acronymfinder.com   hehe
[11:43] <joshisscifi> is #flood being used to pastes of errors right now?
[11:43] <D1> so will the breezy black splash screen be the final one for the release in Oct?
[11:43] <D1> they could have chosen a better design I think.
[11:43] <D1> too dark.
[11:44] <Lars_G> Breezy final is on Oct? nice.
[11:44] <ompaul> QMario, short answer, UML OMG all object orientated programming related (OOP) (as opposed to the linux UML) so I spoke of a type of programming extreme programming (XP) which is in vogue in some OOP shops, the main part of this XP is testing many many cases, so answer gave an answer that was a joke so I made an industrial pun
[11:44] <Answer> D1: design a better one and post it on the wiki
[11:44] <Lars_G> Release it on the 22 so it matches my bday
[11:44] <D1> maybe I will, maybe I will.
[11:44] <D1> either way, thats just my opinion.
[11:44] <ompaul> joshisscifi, use paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[11:45] <D1> doesn't have to mean anything.
[11:45] <ompaul> Answer, do you approve of my version of why that joke existed?
[11:46] <Beryllium> I prefer to use the ZOMFG programming methodology
[11:46] <zxsykco> Is this the best http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/opguide.html?
[11:46] <joshisscifi> now that is awesome
[11:46] <ompaul> lets take the programming thing to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:46] <zxsykco> no ? in the link
[11:47] <zxsykco> Should I go to #freenode and ask?
[11:47] <Seveas> zxsykco, that's a good resource
[11:48] <zxsykco> I'm always on there, I just don't know which channel best suits operator status related questions!
[11:48] <kataklsym> what is the command to download the kernel source tree for my specific kernel? i did it yesterday it was with either dpkg or aptitude and it had something with $(uname -r) or something like that in it, i need to do it inorder to compile things for my kernel
[11:49] <Beryllium> kataklsym: do you run bash? Check your history file.
[11:49] <Lars_G> kataklsym: There is no source preconfigured for kernel-image packages, you need the headers. "kernel-headers"
[11:49] <Seveas> kataklsym, you need only the headers for that
[11:49] <kataklsym> lars_g that is probably it
[11:49] <Seveas> and it's not kernel headers but linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:50] <kataklsym> Beryllium: it was on a diff box that im not at now
[11:50] <Lars_G> Seveas: Doh you're right, sorry
[11:50] <Hikaru79> If using breezy, and I want to install Opera 8.5, do I *have* to use the static version or is there a way to get that qt dependency?
[11:50] <Seveas> Hikaru79, use the debian etch version of oepra
[11:50] <Seveas> opera*
[11:50] <kataklsym> whats the command to download and install them?
[11:50] <Lars_G> HiddenFly: There is an ubuntu version of opera.
[11:50] <Seveas> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:50] <Lars_G> Seveas: They have an Ubuntu specific .deb now
[11:51] <Seveas> Lars_G, that one does not work on breezy
[11:51] <Hikaru79> Seveas, there's a special Ubuntu package on the Opera site -- why would that be there if Ubuntu users were meant to use something else?
[11:51] <Lars_G> Seveas: Ah sorry.
[11:51] <Lars_G> Hikaru79: It's for hoary users.
[11:51] <Seveas> Hikaru79, it's just another opera stupidity :)
[11:51] <amias> wow this is amazing , thanks guys :)
[11:51] <Seveas> <no I don't like opera>
[11:51] <rekrutacja> there are some articles on slashdot and other news sources about bad security exploit for firfox versions up to 1.0.6. Do you know when ubuntu repository will be upgraded to firefox 1.0.7?
[11:52] <Lars_G> Seveas: Your choice, your right.
[11:52] <JairunCaloth> anyone ahve any ideas about why my DVD burner won't burn at full speed? In windows this wasn't a problem, so I know my hardware is up to part
[11:52] <Seveas> rekrutacja, it already has
[11:52] <JairunCaloth> it's currently burning at about .5x
[11:52] <Beryllium> ubuntu is installing ... so ... slowly ...
[11:52] <Beryllium> not that I should expect it to go any faster, being inside a virtual machine and all :)
[11:53] <Lars_G> Beryllium: Try Gentoo, you will have fun then. </Sarcasm>
[11:53] <rekrutacja> Seveas my synaptic doesn't confirm that...
[11:53] <Hikaru79> rekrutacja, it is already in Breezy.
[11:53] <Beryllium> Lars_G: I use FreeBSD on my server, just trying to do a quick Ubuntu install on my desktop (under WinXP/VMWare) so I can test wine out
[11:53] <Lars_G> rekrutacja: You synaptic has been correctly configured to include security update repositories, and the list of poackages in them refreshed?
[11:53] <Seveas> rekrutacja, for hoary it may take a bit longer, but for breezy the update is there now
[11:53] <Lars_G> Beryllium: I tought wine ran on linux' compatibility layer in FBSD
[11:54] <amias> if i want to copy a hard disk partition with dd , what would be right block size ?
[11:54] <Lars_G> Seveas: Breezy is already under lock, isn't it?
[11:54] <Lars_G> Seveas: So an upgrade from hoary right now might be pretty innocuous?
[11:54] <Beryllium> Lars_G: Well, I run my FreeBSD box headless with no X11 installed, so that doesn't help much :)
[11:54] <kataklsym> shoot, what package do i need that has cc in it to compile stuff?  this is a new ubuntu installation, sorry i usually dont have to install stuff like this heh
[11:54] <Seveas> Lars_G, yes, but since firefox devs are brain-dead about some things new firefox versions can be allowed in
[11:54] <amias> please can the next ubuntu version be called the 'amourous ardpig'
[11:55] <Seveas> kataklsym, build-essential
[11:55] <rekrutacja> lars_g yes, it's properly configured
[11:55] <kataklsym> thanks seveas
[11:55] <Lars_G> Beryllium: Then how are you running vmware?
[11:55] <Lars_G> Seveas: Could you explain a little more in depth please?
[11:55] <erUSUL> amias: use a clone tool like partimage instead of doing it by yourself
[11:56] <amias> erUSUL: cool , will try it thanks
[11:56] <Seveas> Lars_G, firefox devs don't support older versions with security patches but force you to download new versions
[11:56] <Seveas> which totallyh f*s up a stable distribution
[11:56] <Seveas> which totallyh f*s up *the concept of* a stable distribution i mean
[11:56] <NovaFlash> interesting how you left the h in totallyh.
[11:56] <NovaFlash> almost like you were trying to use subliminal messaging
[11:56] <Seveas> :)
[11:56] <NovaFlash> *eyes narrow*
[11:57] <Lars_G> Seveas: I agree.
[11:57] <Beryllium> Lars_G: Uh. Running VMWare under Windows XP.
[11:57] <Beryllium> I said that my FreeBSD box was a server ... :)
[11:57] <NovaFlash> Beryllium: galaxy quest.
[11:58] <Beryllium> NovaFlash: That's not where I got my nickname, but nice try sport. ;-)
[11:58] <karen> Hello, can someone help me out.... my printer is not working.  It was fine and now it says paused.  I haven't done anything differently to it
[11:58] <rekrutacja> seveas breezy is officialy still under development, so shouldn't be updates for hoary _more_ important, just because this is what real end users run? especially updates related o security issues in firefox, which is default internet browser for ubuntu?
[11:59] <rekrutacja> seveas information, that breezy has it but hoary not is somewhat sad...