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Riddellhmm, amu's live CD is broken and I can't work out why12:08
Riddellhunger: the latest abakus wasn't packaged, speedcrunch was, that's why I went with speedcrunch12:29
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apokryphosRiddell: Hi, I've done what I can, but I don't know how to generate/write/create the control entries for the new applications. Any hints?12:54
Riddellapokryphos: emacs debian/control12:56
Riddellcopy and paste and adapt existing ones12:56
apokryphosheh, ok12:57
_tonioRiddell: little question about universe branch of ubutu, is it getting closed when ubuntu is released ?12:57
apokryphosRiddell: and, how does it know what files to look in for the .install stuff? Is that handled from the control too?12:57
_toniobecause I can see a hudge packages waiting for revuing and breezy is so close.....12:57
_tonioapokryphos ?12:58
Riddell_tonio: yes, universe is frozen on release12:58
Riddellapokryphos: give the .install file the same name as the package name in the control file12:58
_tonioarf..... sounds like so many packages will not be uploaded isn't it ?12:58
Riddell_tonio: whany in particular you want to see?12:59
_tonioapokryphos: sorry your nick sound very close from a friend of mine and I've done the confusion ;)12:59
apokryphosno problem =)12:59
apokryphosthanks Riddell; I'll try now01:00
_tonioRiddell:  no not especially, I was just wondering ;)01:00
_tonioI hope I haven't spend all that time packaging for nothing ^^01:01
_tonioRiddell: but to answer you I really think wlassistant is a must have or breezy ;) that app rocks ;)01:02
Riddellwlassistant is on my todo for tomorrow then :)01:04
_tonioyou're gonna package it ? or revuing my one ?01:05
_toniosorry stupid question01:05
_toniodamn I have difficulties to read, still lacking sleep.....01:05
Riddell_tonio: reviewing01:06
_toniok01:06
_tonio;)01:06
_toniogoing to sleep bye all !!01:09
apokryphos'night tonio|away01:09
tonio|away;) tou too01:09
tonio|awayyou too01:09
apokryphosRiddell: .so files are generally what exactly?02:24
apokryphoswriting description for libkvoctraincore (which contains all those)02:25
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apokryphosNevermind that; I'm getting an arch-error now; weird, since I have a 32-bit athlon, and all things in control look a.o.k.04:25
apokryphosWill call it a night04:25
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verwilsthi Riddell 09:43
verwilstanything to compile for me?09:43
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Riddellguy made a splash for the kdm theme http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2941011:06
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Tonio-hi11:08
\shRiddell: looks ugly with thos funny icons 11:11
verwilstyip, ugly idd :$11:21
verwilstwhat about moodin'? ;)11:21
\shRiddell: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2942611:22
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Tonio-Riddell: another one ;) http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2941011:57
Tonio-done by the guy that did the kdm theme you included, with the same color sheme :)11:58
RiddellTonio-: I pointed that one 2 minutes before you came online :)11:59
Tonio-ah oki ;) this guy is doing great job ;)12:00
Tonio-Riddell: I tested and his kdmtheme + splash + wallpaper alltogether gives a very nice aspect, very homogen (don't know if that's correct english)12:01
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RiddellMoodinKDE look nice but it's too late for a new package like that in main12:07
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Tonio-Riddell: just posted the whishes for Adept as we discussed...12:39
Riddellcool12:39
Tonio-little question, hasn't Adept an icon for the moment ??? because if not my brother is graphist, I might ask him ;)12:39
RiddellTonio-: it has no icon, all submitions very welcome12:40
Tonio-Riddell: okay, what kind of format is required ? svg, png bmp ? what size too ? I will send an email to my brother, but I don't know what is required to build an icon set ;)12:43
RiddellTonio-: SVG, (and PNG sizes 16 to 128)12:47
Riddellit should fit in with the crystal theme12:48
Riddelland should convey "package manager" somehow12:48
Tonio-"convey" -> means ?12:49
Riddellgive the message of12:51
Tonio-okay, well something oriented in the way synaptic and kynaptic icons are ;)01:03
Tonio-the mail is sent to my brother, that myght interessted him, I will let you know ;)01:03
Tonio-might01:03
Riddellcool01:04
Tonio-he his thinking o trying linux so i could be his first contribution, he cannot refuse lol01:04
Tonio-involving graphists to linux is hard, really ;)01:05
Riddelltell me about it01:05
Tonio-I will for sure ;)01:05
Tonio-and about the splashscreen you pointed two minutes before I came, will you include it finally ?01:06
RiddellI need to test it out but it's the mostly likely candidate01:06
Riddellthe current splash screen isn't that great01:07
Tonio-ok ;)01:07
Tonio-well the concept is nice, kubuntu appearing letter by letter is okay, but well, colors are (for my eyes) badly choosen ;)01:07
Riddellit's the colours used by kde 3.501:09
apokryphosI think the current splash is better than the other one (even if it would maintain a bit of consistency); those icons do look.. bad01:11
Tonio-Riddell: ah ok didn't knew ;)01:11
apokryphosRiddell: so, any idea why I'd be getting be getting a binary-arch error 2?01:17
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Riddellapokryphos: what's one of those?01:31
Riddellah, make error01:31
apokryphosyeah01:31
Riddellwell you need to see the error message above01:31
apokryphosI do?01:32
Riddellapokryphos: what's the error that causes make to error?01:35
apokryphosas I recall, it was that one, but I'll re-get it01:35
apokryphos# make[1] : Leaving directory `/root/kdeedu/kdeedu-3.4.91'01:45
apokryphosmake: *** [binary-arch]  Error 201:45
apokryphosdebuild: fatal error at line 76501:45
apokryphosRiddell: seems to be first n' only error01:45
Riddellthere must be an error above that01:45
Riddellwhat's above that?01:45
apokryphosa lodda text -- if there is an error, my konsole doesn't scroll that high01:46
apokryphosone sec, I'll pastebin01:46
apokryphoshttp://pastebin.com/37186101:47
Riddellapokryphos: that's a makefile, not a compile output01:48
apokryphosRiddell: that's output from debuild -nc01:49
apokryphosI tried making kdeedu, it went for about half an hour (evidently past that point, that is), just fine01:49
apokryphosproblem must be with some setting I did, perhaps01:49
Riddellwhy is it outputting a makefile01:50
Riddellthat's crazy01:51
apokryphosI think so too :)01:51
apokryphosif worst comes to worst, and I can't compile it again for <insert obscure reason> I figure I can just send you the debian/ folder, since it has pretty much all the needed changes01:51
Riddellyes, it'll need to wait until I'm done with koffice is all01:52
Riddellwhich could take a while01:52
apokryphosshall I put it up available for you now, or try anything else?01:53
apokryphoscan't believe this nonsense happening just when I'm coming to the end of the road :/01:53
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Riddellyou could try a fresh build01:54
apokryphosdoes that involve me putting the debian/ into a freshly extracted kdeedu-3.4.91, or just a debuild?01:56
Riddelljust a debuild01:58
\shRiddell: btw...did u get an answer from mdz (amarok-1.3.2?)02:03
Riddell\sh: don't think so02:03
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\shRiddell: think about icpf integration ;)02:45
Riddell\sh: what's that?02:45
\shhttp://ipcf.freedesktop.org/wiki/02:45
\sh#02:46
\shBetter Desktop of Presence Management/Connection Management for IM/Mail etc. (see [WWW]  IPCF - Inter-Personal Communication Framework)02:46
\sh    *02:46
\sh      Thinking of ShtoomVoIP Breezy Goal, dotUbuntu etc. we should work on this project to have a transparent framework for the (K)Ubuntu Desktop. Together with a Launchpad Integration for User Authentication and some newly created community services like Mail/Jabber/SIP we could have a highly integrated desktop.02:46
\shthat's my BoF proposal for UBZ ,-)02:46
Riddell\sh: slap it on the list then02:47
\sh602:47
\shk02:47
apokryphosRiddell: after long time...same error :/02:53
apokryphosand still producing that dang Makefile02:53
Riddelland sending it to stdout?02:54
apokryphosI presume so; exactly the same as before02:55
Riddellcrazy02:56
Riddelldebuild -S and give me a URL to the .diff, .dsc and .orig, I'll try and take a look02:56
apokryphosok, thank you :)02:56
apokryphosgah, finally found the gpg issue (doing chroot /var/somechroot) apparently doesn't look in /root/ as ~ despite you being root03:12
apokryphosuploading now, anyhow; though, no diff generated from the debuild -S?03:12
Riddelldebuild -S should make a .diff.gz file03:24
Riddellunless the .orig is named wrongly and it can't find it03:24
apokryphosorig.tar.gz; seems fine03:25
Riddellapokryphos: what's the .orig full file name?03:26
apokryphosI have to head out literally now, so if those two aren't enough, then I'll have to try to do it later03:27
apokryphoskdeedu-3.4.91.orig.tar.gz03:27
apokryphoshttp://www.giannaros.org/kde3.5/breezy/kdeedu/03:27
apokryphossorry about this; I'll get back to it when I can03:27
verwilstkdeedu_3.4.91 ;)03:47
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apokryphosRiddell: sorry about that; back now06:38
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\shphew08:03
\shRiddell: please have a look on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUIM/DesktopIntegrationSIPIM so u know what'll come up in the future ;)08:04
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\shRiddell: I have the feeling that changing the songs in amarok takes longer in 1.3.x then in 1.2.x08:44
Riddell\sh: how do you mean?08:55
Riddellthat's no crossfade08:55
\shRiddell: if you click with your mouse on another song it takes more time (seconds) then before in 1.2.x08:56
Riddell\sh: click (select) or double click (play)?08:57
\shwhen it's playing already, 08:57
JRe\sh: may be it's because there is now a fading with xine08:57
\shJRe: running gstreamer alsaink08:58
\shno fading08:58
JRe\sh: ha ok08:58
\shor my laptop is fck up08:59
\shwill see it later...when I reboot08:59
\sh3 secs to change a song with gstreamer alsa09:41
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Tm_T\sh_away: hmm, alsasink is buggy atleast09:46
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lamontRiddell: ICE ^^^10:19
Tm_T=)10:20
lamontRiddell: knetworkconf, ditto.10:31
Riddelllamont: fairly expected, I'm doing an uplo10:32
Riddellupload of kdebase probably tomorrow10:32
lamontkewlness10:32
lamontRiddell: a list of log files containing the string 'internal compiler' will shortly be available at build.mmjgroup.com/~buildd/kde-errors.txt10:36
lamont(once the find| grep finishes..)10:36
lamontdone10:37
lamontonly 7 logs10:37
lamont(that's libk* and k*, nothing else)10:37
lamontkdebase, kdebindings, kdegraphics, kdelibs, kdenetwork, kdepim, kdenetworkconf10:38
lamontwhere at least one of those is fixed now. :)10:38
Riddell"Unknown host build.mmjgroup.com"10:51
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_tonioRiddell: my brother is gonna see to make a little icon set for adept this week end ;) You wanted to be aware, you are !11:15
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Riddellcool11:22
apokryphosRiddell: anything I should do for the moment? You think it would be best to just leave the debian/ up somewhere?11:23
apokryphosdamn, I hate being a hassle :)11:26
Riddellapokryphos: start another module?11:30
apokryphosRiddell: would you really want me doing that :P11:30
apokryphosprobably not a good idea11:31
apokryphosso far: one thing I packaged and seemed ok was borked (bad dependencies), second thing I tried failed miserably, and last one I tried... didn't really work11:32
apokryphosI guess I could try to organise the debian/ (one thing I can apparently do)11:33
lamontRiddell: buildd.mmjgroup.com, sorry11:53
lamontRiddell: buildd.mmjgroup.com/buildLogs looks alot like p.u.c/~lamont/buildLogs, but only for hppa/sparc11:53
_tonio'hite all11:54
_tonio'nite11:54

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