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[04:00] <jsgotangco> nice..maybe in a few more minutes
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[04:02] <jsgotangco> hey
[04:02] <jsgotangco> it seems only us
[04:02] <jsgotangco> heh
[04:03] <mpt> What did you expect, the Spanish Inquisition?
[04:03] <ogra> lots of lurkers ;)
[04:04] <mitsuhiko> hi doc-team
[04:04] <jsgotangco> mitsuhiko: hi
[04:04] <mitsuhiko> :-)
[04:05] <jsgotangco> ok a few more minutes...
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[04:12] <jsgotangco> ah well it seems no one is coming then
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[04:13] <jsgotangco> alright, whoever is lurking at the moment, I've already drafted a release notes doc for breezy located at BreezyReleaseNotes
[04:13] <jsgotangco> on the wiki
[04:13] <jsgotangco> would appreciate the devels look at it and fill it up
[04:13] <jsgotangco> will be sending an email to the list later about it
[04:14] <jsgotangco> in other news, Corey announced that QuickTour is already done and the work for screenshots would be next
[04:14] <jsgotangco> if i remember right he said he'll add screenshots when we have artwork freeze
[04:15] <jsgotangco> I'm not sure of the current status of translations but it seems a number is already complete
[04:15] <jsgotangco> so please check BreezyReleaseNotes and edit as needed: Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Edubuntu
[04:15] <jsgotangco> Edubuntu stuff is on the Edubuntu.org wiki pae
[04:16] <jsgotangco> any questions???
[04:17] <mpt> sounds good
[04:18] <jsgotangco> hopefully, during UBZ, we'll have a BOF at least
[04:18] <jjesse> sorry i'm back
[04:18] <jjesse> boss needed me :(
[04:18] <jsgotangco> hi jjesse! no problem
[04:18] <jsgotangco> anything to share??
[04:19] <jjesse> just working on getting stuff updated for breezy
[04:19] <jjesse> Riddell has been a big help in that
[04:19] <Riddell> I have?  cool
[04:19] <jjesse> Riddell: you've answered every question i've asked you
[04:20] <Riddell> kindae the least I can do
[04:20] <jsgotangco> i've seen your release notes (Kawabunga!)
[04:20] <mpt> jsgotangco: A BoF with nobody there?
[04:20] <mpt> or are you going?
[04:20] <jsgotangco> mpt: Corey is going
[04:20] <jsgotangco> i didnt get sponsored
[04:20] <jsgotangco> (its too far)
[04:21] <Riddell> jjesse: when do you think you'll have stuff that I should review (and upload)?
[04:21] <jjesse> i'm going to my in-laws this weekend so i'll have plenty time while my wife spends time w/ her family to work
[04:21] <jjesse> i'm going to shoot for end of next week?
[04:22] <jjesse> that should be release notes and quickguide
[04:22] <Riddell> jjesse: cool
[04:24] <Riddell> jjesse: let me know if you want me to review stuff in the mean time
[04:24] <jjesse> when the FAQ guide was changed did anyone make changes for Kubuntu?
[04:24] <jjesse> Riddell: thanks i will
[04:24] <jjesse> like make it current for breezy if changes needed to be made?
[04:24] <jsgotangco> as for me Edubuntu work, About Edubuntu is already in html for FF start page
[04:24] <sivang> what meeting is this now?
[04:24] <sivang> ah, docteam
[04:25] <jsgotangco> sivang: should be docteam
[04:25] <jsgotangco> but a lot didnt come
[04:25] <jsgotangco> its becoming a trend :(
[04:25] <sivang> how come?
[04:26] <jsgotangco> sivang: no idea they agreed on this day and time though
[04:27] <sivang> ok, do we have an erreta list or something close?
[04:27] <sivang> (Maybe the place is in the releae notes)
[04:27] <jsgotangco> BreezyReleaseNotes is the working draft
[04:28] <jsgotangco> all known issues should also be listed
[04:28] <sivang> ok, there's a pending bug for Dapper, http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15017
[04:29] <sivang> what do you think?
[04:29] <jsgotangco> that's a known issue then
[04:31] <sivang> jsgotangco: I know, I reported it :) but shoudln't it go in the release notes?
[04:31] <jsgotangco> sivang: sure kamion already indicated so
[04:31] <jsgotangco> feel free to add it on BreezyReleaseNotes page
[04:31] <sivang> k
[04:31] <jsgotangco> thanks
[04:31] <sivang> no prob, I hate to see many unweary users falls on this
[04:32] <sivang> could create lots of unneccessary noise
[04:33] <jsgotangco> is there a workaround?
[04:34] <Kamion> don't use LVM?
[04:34] <Kamion> or set it up manually
[04:34] <Kamion> to have a separate /boot partition
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[04:35] <jsgotangco> hi mdke
[04:35] <Kamion> the latter is probably a more realistic recommendation
[04:35] <mdke> hello jsgotangco 
[04:35] <mdke> anything -doc going on?
[04:35] <jsgotangco> mdke: meeting?
[04:35] <jsgotangco> well not many came so we're just collecting stuff
[04:35] <mdke> great
[04:36] <jsgotangco> for the release notes
[04:36] <mdke> ah cool
[04:36] <jsgotangco> mdke: you got news on translations?
[04:36] <mdke> of what nature?
[04:36] <mdke> translation is going nicely
[04:36] <mdke> lots of languages are done for about-ubuntu and the faqguide is moving along steadily
[04:37] <mdke> we need to upload a new faqguide template and I'm working with rob^ about that
[04:37] <mdke> is he here?
[04:38] <jsgotangco> no
[04:38] <jsgotangco> probably won't
[04:38] <jsgotangco> its already 3am on his side
[04:38] <jsgotangco> 2 rather
[04:39] <mdke> ah!
[04:39] <mdke> np we'll do it by email
[04:39] <jsgotangco> corey announced that his quicktour is already done
[04:39] <mdke> sorry to interrupt, keep going
[04:39] <jsgotangco> and up for translation
[04:40] <jsgotangco> mdke: its ok we're almost done anyways
[04:41] <jsgotangco> alright anyone else?
[04:41] <jjesse> not really
[04:41] <mdke> how is jbailey getting on with uploading ubuntu-docs?
[04:42] <mdke> sorry if that question has already come up
[04:42] <jsgotangco> mdke: i haven't seen him lately at all
[04:42] <mdke> ok
[04:43] <mdke> i'm getting emails from rob^ so he is obviously doing the night shift at work ;)
[04:45] <mdke> is anyone going to UBZ?
[04:45] <mdke> from -doc
[04:45] <jsgotangco> corey is
[04:46] <jsgotangco> he got sponsored
[04:46] <mdke> good
[04:46] <mdke> i was thinking
[04:46] <mdke> we need to put forward the idea that docteam translations be included in the language-packs
[04:47] <mdke> or alternatively, that a separate script is prepared to get them uploaded automatically, because it is a PITA to download and convert to xml manually
[04:49] <mpt> I'm going to UBZ
[04:49] <mdke> cool
[04:49] <mdke> i kinda assumed that :D
[04:49] <mdke> mpt, good chance to do a BOF on Ubuntu Help then!
[04:51] <mpt> yes :-)
[04:52] <mpt> or at least get HelpfulHelp approved
[04:52] <mpt> and yelp decrackage bountied
[04:53] <mdke> :)
[04:54] <jeffsch> ok, what else we have on the agenda?
[04:55] <jsgotangco> oh!
[04:55] <jsgotangco> ok sorry
[04:55] <jsgotangco> if there is nothing else, we're done
[04:55] <jsgotangco> hey jeffsch i didn't notice you were here
[04:56] <mdke> does anyone know the status of help.ubuntu.com?
[04:57] <jsgotangco> sorry...the fridge.ubuntu.com is up already though :)
[04:58] <mdke> yep
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[05:04] <mdke> jeffsch, would you be able to help in making a script to do the po->xml thing semi-automatically? i know that you can do scripty things :D
[05:05] <mdke> assuming we downloaded the po files and put em in the right directories
[05:05] <jeffsch> I'm not sure I have time
[05:06] <mdke> okay
[05:06] <jeffsch> I don't know what it would involve, but I can look into it sometime on the weekend
[05:06] <mdke> jeffsch, email me if you have time?
[05:06] <jeffsch> ok
[05:06] <jeffsch> segfault was working on something earlier this week
[05:07] <jeffsch> but my memory is faulty, and I can't remember many of the details :(
[05:07] <jeffsch> oh yeah, it had to do with creating an html from the translated docs
[05:08] <mdke> yep
[05:08] <mdke> i think he was working from the wrong original doc though, can't remember
[05:08] <jeffsch> he had a short little script that did po->xml thing
[05:08] <jeffsch> you should be able to find it in the logs, or just ask him directly
[05:08] <mdke> ok
[05:09] <mdke> the command is very simply, it's just that I don't know scripts
[05:09] <mdke> simple
[05:09] <mdke> ah I see his script on the ML
[05:09] <mdke> what we would need would be one which would do that for all languages
[05:13] <jeffsch> yeah, but if you need it quickly, I'm not your guy. I don't know scripty things well enough to do it both quickly and properly at the same time
[05:13] <jbailey> If you can describe exactly what you need, I can script for you.
[05:13] <jbailey> But I don't know those tools at all.
[05:15] <mdke> ok jbailey we can do that
[05:15] <mdke> jbailey, i'll mail you at some stage
[05:15] <jbailey> mdke: Luvly.
[05:15] <mdke> jbailey@ ?
[05:15] <jbailey> ubuntu.com
[05:15] <mdke> yeah, it was the first bit I was checking ;)
[05:16] <jbailey> *lol*
[05:16] <jbailey> =)
[05:16] <mdke> cool
[05:16] <jbailey> Yeah, I think for everyone it's just launchpad-account@ubuntu.com
[05:16] <jbailey> For members, anyway
[05:17] <mdke> i thought you might be an employee :D
[05:17] <Kamion> employees who had @ubuntu.com accounts before it was done for all members are grandfathered, AFAIK
[05:17] <jbailey> Well, I am, but aside from that all Ubuntu members now have @ubuntu.com addresses as I understand it.
[05:17] <mdke> yes
[05:18] <jbailey> Kamion: Ah, cool.
[05:18] <mdke> anyhow, i'll mail ya, it's dead easy and it will help maybe when packaging ubuntu-docs
[05:18] <jbailey> I'm be surprised if many of our LP accounts didn't match it anyway.
[05:19] <jeffsch> ok, i'm off to work. cya
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[05:19] <jbailey> mdke: Lovely, thanks.
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[05:19] <jbailey> ogra: You need to grow your hair.
[05:19] <jbailey> THen you can see them without a mirror ;)
[05:19] <mdke> lol
[05:19] <mdke> he can surely
[05:20] <ogra> heh
[05:20] <ogra> jbailey, it starts at the roots, not the tips ;)
[05:21] <jbailey> ogra: My silver hairs are long enough that I can see them clearly now. =)
[05:21] <jbailey> But I'm old ;)
[05:21] <ogra> HAHAHA
[05:21] <ogra> youre not even 30 :)
[05:22] <jbailey> Sure, but noone believes you when you say '29' =)
[05:22] <ogra> heh
[05:22] <jbailey> "Mhm, yeah sure." (they scribble 'age not disclosed')
[05:23] <ogra> we'll bring you good into your 30s at UBZ ;)
[05:23] <jbailey> It's funny 'cause it's true.
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