[12:00] can someone here help me with my webcam? [12:00] i have the drivers installed [12:00] now it wont access the cam [12:00] i had it working in RHEL4, but now in ubuntu i cant figure out what is wrong === phillipc [n=reformis@176-172.mam.umd.edu] has joined #ubuntu [12:01] rekrutacja, I agree with that, but since breezy is still under development, updates are more easily accepted === flodine [n=flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:01] will breezy go to gst 0.9? [12:01] no [12:01] ^-- phillipc [12:01] cool, thanks [12:01] karen: you mean that the jobs are paused? in System-->Admin -> printers open your printer (listed there) you can pause it in the first menu [12:01] yes [12:02] jobs are paused === JzE [n=jze@a84-231-30-102.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [12:02] seveas do you know who is ubuntu maintainar of firefox packages? in package info there is some debian email address, so i suspect it's a debian developer, and sending him information about ubuntu is not going to work [12:02] rekrutacja, there is no single maintainer per package like in debian === srosco [n=srosco@104.40.99-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:03] all developers can touch all packages === kuroishinzoo [n=kuroishi@catv-priv-117.xpress.se] has joined #ubuntu === a8514 [n=John@116.Red-83-40-241.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:03] how do i install amsn?? === Surak [n=Surak@201009097014.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu === dv_ [n=dv_@M1205P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu [12:03] or msn?? [12:03] hello [12:03] i have some problems with java and firefox [12:03] hi [12:03] i use the sun-j2sdk1.5 package, [12:03] hi, does anyone know how to make openoffice use the gtk ui when running outside of gnome (using e17)? [12:03] but Martin Pitt (pitt, martin.pitt [at] ubuntu.com) is security team lead [12:03] seveas could you report this as an issue to developers? i think this is a serious one [12:03] kuroishinzoo, usegaim [12:03] but the plugin symlinked in the firefox plugin dir points to a non-existing .so [12:03] kuroishinzoo, applications -> internet -> gaim [12:04] erUSLU--- i had someone set all this up for me , not sure what i'm doing [12:04] there's an IM client that supports msn [12:04] seveas, thanks, i will send him an email === thechitowncubs [n=thechito@c-67-175-52-127.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:04] karen: the window where the jobs are listed has two menu entries where you can pause the printer or the jobs. i asume you tried there? [12:04] rekrutacja, do know that he is probably working on it now [12:04] okey thanks.. ;) [12:04] what channel/server is open office in? [12:04] i haven't tried anything because i'm learning to use the computer [12:04] karen: the menus are Printer and Edit [12:05] yes === X3-away [n=X3ndou@ool-44c0abd0.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:05] i guess from pressing print over and over [12:05] it's showing numerous printing === Coster [n=coster@ip42082.poa.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu === tombs [n=tombs@h141186.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:06] yo [12:06] erUSUL can you send me a message at HamNcheeseGirl === dmk2 [n=dmk@host81-154-88-175.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu === dmk2 [n=dmk@host81-154-88-175.range81-154.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:06] hahaha.. how the fck does gaim work?? === deus [n=deus@dsl207-46.adsl.no] has joined #ubuntu [12:07] I have to remove a group from my user [12:07] enter your account data, and voil [12:07] anyone know? [12:07] I added my user account into a group called ftpuser [12:07] and now i cant use the sudu [12:07] sudo [12:07] how can i change this back without the sudo [12:07] karen: new to irc how do i do that? [12:08] i edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf and included v4l, restarted the X server, came back, compiled the webcam modules for my kernel, went to /dev and MAKEDEV video, modprobed videodev, modprobed mywebcamdriver, now still it isnt detecting my webcam.. what could it be? [12:08] haha, as new as me--- message on gaim the messenger [12:08] deus: that sounds like a bug [12:08] deus: Have you activated root's account? [12:08] Lars_G: no === Surak [n=Surak@201009097014.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #ubuntu [] === Lzaii [n=jrauecu@81.213.2.3] has joined #ubuntu === P229 thinks you shouldn't be able to lock yourself out of root access by adding yourself to another group === Lzaii [n=jrauecu@81.213.2.3] has left #ubuntu [] [12:09] deus: Good luck then, afaik you will need a rescue disc for this. === lionel [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu [12:09] usermod -G ftpuser username === Lzaii [n=jrauecu@81.213.2.3] has joined #ubuntu === a8514 [n=John@116.Red-83-40-241.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:09] how does gaim work?? === Lzaii [n=jrauecu@81.213.2.3] has left #ubuntu [] [12:09] deus: You deleted "admin" from your groups with that. [12:09] after that i couldnt use sudo [12:09] gaim is like yahoo messenger [12:09] same thing basically as yahoo [12:09] Lars_G: what? [12:09] if i want to access my msn.. what shall i do?? [12:10] deus: -G in usermod REPLACES your group list, doesn't adds the new group to the list. [12:10] how long should the "Registering Documentation" step take? [12:10] deus: In ubuntu, to be able to do sudo, you need to be in the "admin" group. [12:10] oh, nevermind, it just finished [12:10] The breezy gnome-screensaver update released today wants to remove xscreensaver. Is this normal? Should I let this update remove xscreensaver? [12:10] took like ten minutes or more === oG|Tobias-GG [n=Tobias@212.214.135.219] has joined #ubuntu [12:10] damn [12:10] karen: in msn? or yahoo... [12:10] Hikaru79, no, you should remove gnome-screensaver [12:10] deus: When you ran that command, you deleted your whole list of extra groups you belong to, and replaced them all with only "ftpuser" [12:10] yahoo [12:10] and apt-get update again [12:11] anyway this is my current id. uid=1000(deus) gid=1000(deus) groups=1000(deus),1002(ftpuser) [12:11] Seveas, I see. [12:11] deus: It's not a bug, it's an OOPs, :) next time it's simpler to use kusers or similar app. [12:11] Seveas: I thought it was decided to use xscreensaver in breezy? === Determinist [n=deter@80.179.224.234.cable.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [12:11] erUSUL: seems to be working , thanks [12:11] thoreauputic, correct [12:11] deus: Anyhow, afaik you'll have to boot from ubuntu livecd or another kind of rescue cd. [12:11] a PEBKC problem then [12:11] Seveas: whew - had me worried for a moment [12:11] that's why I said remove gnome-screemsaver ;) [12:12] deus: then mount your root partition, chroot to it, and run usermod again to add "admin" to your -G [12:12] amias: you are wellcome [12:12] Lars_G, don't make it so difficult! [12:12] Seveas: What other option is there? [12:12] deus, reboot into recovery mode [12:12] and when you are root, typr this: === eerii [n=jrauecu@81.213.2.3] has joined #ubuntu [12:12] erUSUL---- when i click on the printer and click resume printing-- nothing happens [12:12] wtf is the "xpistub library" [12:12] adduser deus sudo === eerii [n=jrauecu@81.213.2.3] has left #ubuntu [] [12:12] Lars_G: recovery mode gives you a root prompt [12:13] then exit recovery mode and boot through to normal mode [12:13] and use sudo users-admin to restore the other groups [12:13] thoreauputic: Doh, sorry, I'm used to distros with active root accounts, where even recovery mode requires root pw to enter. [12:13] thats in grub right? [12:13] deus, yes [12:13] Lars_G: yah - Ubuntu has this for just such cases === GuBA [n=server@64.76.50.38] has joined #ubuntu [12:13] Thanks to ubuntu for being more logical. [12:14] Lars_G, if deus had a root account, a simple su would have done it :) === buzzco [n=buzzetti@ool-4577218b.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu === robbkidd [n=robbkidd@ip70-179-76-249.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:14] nod [12:14] karen: try restarting cups in a terminal do 'sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart' [12:15] erUSUL,: is it necissary to reboot after altering the partition table or is it safe to go ahead and write to it [12:15] Soooo, who's using Evolution 2.4 with Exchange 2003? [12:15] Seveas: Still, I do agree with the ubuntu view on basing around sudo [12:15] yeah, me too [12:15] Lars_G: me to [12:15] Seveas: Sorry for the long round around too, I'm still getting used to Ubuntu's nuances :) === Seveas has no root password on any of his 20 ubuntu machines :) [12:15] ok [12:15] i'm sorry erUSUL have no idea what you mean. I'm a computer dummy [12:15] amias: not necesary just upgrade /etc/fstab to mach the new layout [12:15] *Dive Dive!* [12:15] "Default permit" through sudo is a fairly decent compromise between user-friendliness and security. === ablyss [n=ablyss@68-190-35-8.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === harlekin [n=harlekin@p508E6720.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:16] I still think it's a bug that a user can lock himself out of root access (without forgetting a password, that is) === oikKaavW [n=jrauecu@81.213.2.3] has joined #ubuntu [12:16] P229, it's a user error [12:16] not a bug [12:16] karen: Aplications-> System tools--> terminal [12:16] it's a user error === oikKaavW is now known as ieesfP [12:16] and recovery mode can restore it === ieesfP is now known as eoUkaooii === eoUkaooii [n=jrauecu@81.213.2.3] has left #ubuntu [] [12:16] Seveas: I seem to be repeating you a lot. [12:16] P229: It's part of the learning process too. [12:16] Lars_G, great minds think alike :) [12:16] I agree with Seveas. A system can do only so much to protect a user from himself. [12:16] P229: Else you could call programs like mkfs "bugs" === benz190ryda [n=benz190r@adsl-70-228-93-16.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:17] The only time I had to reinstall ubuntu was when i typed rm -rf lib while being root in /var [12:17] Seveas: perhaps I'm nit-picking, but imho it would be more sensible to design against this [12:17] on my laptop i have a couple of auto mount SMB shares in my fstab. but at work those shares dont exist, so on boot it takes a while to figure this out. is there any way to have it background those attempts, or not make them if i am at work ? [12:17] no os can protect you from that :) [12:17] P229, propose a design that can handle this and it will be implemented [12:17] I see no such design. [12:18] Seveas: i've never had to reinstall windows from typing "rm -rf lib" in /var :) [12:18] P229: The only way I see around this is to not let a user have admin rights at all. [12:18] P229: right, and design around rm -rf errors and.... what else ? *g* [12:18] usermod is a way too basic tool to be used directly [12:18] the 'correct' way is useradd/userdel or the gui tools [12:18] P229: The only out I see is to provide patched usermod/libraries for ubuntu... messy, very messy === djm62 [n=djm62@82-40-136-135.cable.ubr08.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:18] esac_, try deleting C:\Windows\System32 === pluffsy [n=emil@h199n2fls34o1118.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:19] it'll f* you up massively :) === bushk [n=bushk@horatio-111.cs.utexas.edu] has joined #ubuntu === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #ubuntu [12:19] Seveas: since when ? last time i tried that, system file protection restored everything and it still worked ... [12:19] #ubuntu-ph :D [12:19] Has anyone here gotten Evolution 2.4 to (1) send through an Exchange 2003 server via Connector and (2) been able to view the contents of the Sent Items, Deleted Items and Drafts folders? [12:19] no terminal in system tools [12:19] Seveas: windows does not need help to f* you up massively [12:19] hello from ohio [12:19] :D [12:19] esac_, meh, that takes up too muxh space to be effective [12:19] erUSUL, that too === sn0n [n=sn0n@207.62.229.217] has joined #ubuntu [12:20] it'll always leave some essential bits uncovered or simply take up too much space to be workable [12:20] System File Protection annoys me. Not as a concept, but in its implementation. [12:20] hey guys.. is there a .zip for a Ubuntu LiveCD boot floppy.. sounds weird.. but im at the schools computer lab.. and it will boot floppy, but not cd.. === kristian [n=kristian@c-8090e255.33-16-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [12:20] hello. I don't know if this is too OT, sorry in that case. but I'm about to buy a router so I can share my connection on my mac and my ubuntu computer. and I wondered if you have any tips? it would be neat with a router which I could also install a custom linux dist on so I can run lighter LAMP stuff on it. === kristian [n=kristian@c-8090e255.33-16-64736c14.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #ubuntu ["Lmnar"] [12:20] Seveas: i'll give it a shot in my vmware and see if it misses anything .. thank god for snapshots :) [12:21] sn0n: google smart boot manager === mati1 [n=matthew@w.mackintosh2.cfdl.auckland.ac.nz] has joined #ubuntu [12:21] esac_, ;) [12:21] sn0n: What do the schools administrators think of you booting off your own media? === GuBA [n=server@64.76.50.38] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:21] hehe.. the computer science tech didnt like it [12:21] "...." [12:21] pluffsy: Get a small pc, and M0n0wall, otherwise, if you're looking for wireless whathever you do, do NOT buy D-Link [12:21] Wouldn't think so. [12:21] but now im at the computer lab, where there is no tech [12:21] pluffsy: Not much else I can tell you right now [12:21] the com sci lab lets you boot from cd thou.. [12:22] the public comp lab dont.. they are more 'locked down' === davekempe [n=dave@220-245-224-46.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:22] sn0n, why are you so eager to break the rules? [12:22] pluffsy: netgear dg834g or linksys wrt54g [12:22] sn0n: Get this: http://gag.sourceforge.net/ [12:22] cuz they lock down the computers soo much you cant really do anything :-/ === y00m [n=ubuntu@84-74-12-112.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu [12:22] Hello! I am sorry to be such a noob, but I just tried to install Ubunto on my second computer, and it went alright except for some part not working. After rebooting I don't get into the actual OS. How do I start from zero and reformat the HDD? [12:22] sn0n: Yes, but doing stuff they don't want to, is breaking rules. [12:22] Lars_G: what's the matter with d-link? [12:22] sn0n, they probably have a reason for that... [12:22] sn0n: And it could be labeled illegal. === chris [n=chris@ce-aus-154-223.dmisinetworks.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:23] and get you kicked out of school [12:23] blah.. im a comp sci major.. and a geek.. course ima break the COMPUTER RULES [12:23] lol [12:23] sn0n: which is unwise, and possibly rude === Coster [n=coster@ip42082.poa.virtua.com.br] has left #ubuntu [] [12:23] amias: I've heard link-sys is bad. is that bullshit? [12:23] IcemanV9: The wireless range is garbage, the link stability null (link goes up and down ofter), before you say I have a broken unit, I've seen several units and models do the same === b-movie [n=Bad@dsl-084-057-124-209.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:23] karen: Aplications-> run application? type 'sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart' and make sure you check run in terminal or console (i'm spanish and i do not know how it shows up in your screen) [12:23] pluffsy: it's b.s. My wrt54g works great. [12:23] anyone know how to bold text before a number in open office 2 without having the number bolded also? [12:23] oG|Tobias-GG, just boot from the install cd and restart... [12:23] oG|Tobias-GG: the intial start up puts you into further system configuration that takes a while [12:23] Anyhow, GaG is a pretty good bootloader for fun. [12:24] thechitowncubs, select the text and hit B [12:24] Lars_G: linksys sucks as well. i returned it last spring. *shrug* [12:24] mmm [12:24] Oh, is it that easy? :P [12:24] anyone know why zope refuses to see all the Products for a Breezy Plone install? [12:24] gag looks a bit 'over the top' [12:24] Seveas, wel lthat also bolds the number. [12:24] IcemanV9: I've given up, I'm getting a SBC and loading M0n0wall into it [12:24] i just want a simple boot floppy that will load the CD's Ubuntu live cd [12:24] thechitowncubs, in that case ENOCLUE [12:24] sn0n: over the top?? [12:24] crimsun: alright. === y00m [n=ubuntu@84-74-12-112.dclient.hispeed.ch] has left #ubuntu ["Konversation] [12:24] Seveas: I am administrator and i just did del * in system32 .. it gave me access denied or file in use on 90% of all files. looks like i lost paint.exe, calc.exe, net.exe and things like that, but the s ystem is still working just fine === deus [n=deus@dsl207-46.adsl.no] has joined #ubuntu [12:24] ok [12:24] Lars_G : bloated ? ;-) [12:24] that seemed to do the trick [12:25] Well your choice, I gave my oppinion. [12:25] hehe [12:25] was there anything else i should do then adduser deus admin in recovery mode? [12:25] esac_, i find that 'acces denied' crap more annoying than losing my system if i'm being dumb [12:25] http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2443 [12:25] pluffsy: dunno i havea netgear [12:25] ENOCLUE? [12:25] Could something maybe have something todo with my sudden loss of sound [12:25] thechitowncubs, it means that i have no more ideas === cafuego_ steals Seveas' system [12:25] thats what i thought [12:25] pluffsy, linksys has more space [12:26] i can't run breezy for more than a day... memory leak keeps poping up and taking the system down [12:26] deus: yes you excluded yourself from the audio group :) === Seveas tickles cafuego_ [12:26] thanks for trying erUSUL--- you seem very smart. I'm just not understanding this much but feel free to email me at Hamncheesegirl@yahoo.com [12:26] thoreauputic: damn, [12:26] Seveas: How do you keep up with all the questions? [12:26] heee [12:26] deus, sudo users-admin [12:26] Seveas: that's a fair argument, but your original statement that rm -rf (rd /q /s *) will f*ck up any os isn't true. windows holds up quite well to that [12:26] How many groups could i have excluded myself from?~ [12:26] give yourself the rights again === worthawholebean [n=worthawh@69.0.13.53] has joined #ubuntu [12:26] esac_, surprisingly it indeed does [12:26] deus: once sudo is OK you can add yourself back to all the default groups [12:26] command not found [12:26] esac_: Tried it on Win98 recently? === robbkidd would like the opportunity to circumvent his university's computer lab security with one of those BlackDog personal servers. === ysn [n=ysn@205.88.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu === _Caleb_ [n=ichigo@cpe-065-191-209-077.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:27] deus, ok, the hard way: [12:27] yeah, any OS that doesn't let *somebody* do that, === philc1 [n=reformis@177-202.mam.umd.edu] has joined #ubuntu [12:27] Hi, in Inkscape, how do you invert a path? [12:27] ...is slightly crippled [12:27] esac_: Actually, the reason windows survices that is due to adesigne rror (cannot access open files) rather then design feature ;-) [12:27] cafuego: not since 1998 === didymo [n=ashley@CPE-61-9-197-223.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === IcemanV9 thinks it ain't worth it, robbkidd :x [12:28] for X in dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin; do sudo adduser deus $X; done [12:28] thoreauputic: how many groups are there? [12:28] cafuego: To be fair, it's probably a good design implementation to not let files in use be deleted. === curious_kitty [n=kat@ppp127.dial-up.uoc.gr] has joined #ubuntu [12:28] (any OS that lets the default user do it is in trouble too) [12:28] deus: not that many by default [12:28] cafuego_: plus i dont see how asking if i did it in 1998 is a fair argument 7 years later [12:28] IcemanV9: Sure, but I'd like the opportunity to use it and scoff. [12:28] djm62: It doesn't. Ir required him to sudo, an act of conscience. [12:28] esac_: Well, Linux didn't die when you did 'rm -rf /' in '98 [12:29] deus: ask someone for their groups ( I can give you a list of mone if you wish) [12:29] cafuego_, the real design error is that these files are open [12:29] they should simply be loaded and closed [12:29] *s/mone/mine === _Caleb_ [n=ichigo@cpe-065-191-209-077.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [12:29] cafuego_: so what i am hearing is that windows got better, and linux got worse ? [12:29] thoreauputic, look at the command I just typed :) [12:29] robbkidd: It's not a design implemenation though, it's a limitation of FAT32 [12:29] esac_: No, you're hearing that users got stupider [12:29] Lars_G: wtf? this isn't just some theoretical phallus swinging? someone actually did that? [12:29] Lars_G: ok, i'll grant you that one :) [12:29] esac_, in fact, rm -rf / won't kill linux now either... === P229 [n=P229@pool-138-88-132-171.esr.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:29] Seveas: missed it :) [12:29] cafuego: Er, those files remain "in use" when run from an NTFS volume, too. [12:29] esac_: 'rm -rf /' doesn't affect Linux, what do you mean? [12:30] Seveas: I see it now [12:30] djm62: My phallus is inside my underwear. === iodine [i=iodine@ip68-4-20-222.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:30] robbkidd: Yes, but the original was files being immovable under fat32, I'm sure the ntfs thing is a backward compatible "feature" MS implemented in the fat32 era. Most odd windows behaviour is. [12:30] does anyone run ndiswrapper with a bcmwl5 card? [12:30] can i use the ubuntu live cd to network a drive on a windows computer to dd an image to the hda? [12:31] D1, i did [12:31] Lars_G: I thought someone was just having a bit of fun playing devil's advocate...didn't occur to me that someone would actually type in something after sudo, then a passwd, without knowing what it was [12:31] control-alt-del reboots ubuntu without using sudo, and if security reboots are enabled.. this needs to be fixed [12:31] thoreauputic: seems severas gave me the basics [12:31] Seveas, did your card report the correct signal strength? [12:31] iodine, probably [12:31] D1, no [12:31] I always get 100% [12:31] djm62: We all are capable of lapsus menti [12:31] and dont know how to fix it. [12:31] deus: yup [12:31] cafuego_: well ill find out if rm -rf / doesn't hurt me in linux :) [12:31] ok then [12:31] Seveas: any documentation on networking with the live cd [12:31] *restarts X* [12:31] ablyss, /etc/inittab :) [12:31] D1: Use a card that has real drivers. [12:31] esac_: it will only delete *your* files. [12:32] cafuego, buy me one. ;] [12:32] Wow. gconf-editor. All the heirarchy of the Windows registory with the joy of reading flat, raw XML. (In particular, the Evolution config entries.) [12:32] cafuego_: What about root? [12:32] D1, you can't fix it unless you take cafuego_s suggestion [12:32] cafuego_: sure, but the original argument was running it as root [12:32] deus: I have a 'dip" group here as well. it seems === deus [n=deus@dsl207-46.adsl.no] has joined #ubuntu [12:32] Do i have to do a full restart? === Draal_ [n=chatzill@o1-dialup-66-81-21-167.rev.o1.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:32] D1: No thanks, you can have my old bcmwl5 ;-) [12:32] cafuego_, sudo rm -rf / will not kill it either ;) [12:32] hehe === n00b [n=noobiz@tru75-6-82-240-33-149.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:32] I'm at the command line and need to remount / directory as read/write.. What is the command to do this? === n00b is now known as ombr [12:32] Seveas: Why? [12:32] Seveas: Not until reboot time, no. [12:32] (hint: rm treats / as special and needs --no-preserve-root) [12:32] are wlan pcmcia cards still bulky? [12:32] cafuego_: as administrator on windows, you cant screw your system by running rd /q /s * .. but in linux as root rm -rf / will (it just killed mine) [12:32] esac_: That was when I was in bed, asleep. :-P [12:33] Draal_: "mount -o remount,rw /mount/dir" [12:33] I remember seeing some really big linksys cards [12:33] Seveas, i have reboots by normal users disabled... when i go to tty1 and press contorl-alt-del.. i reboot without needing to use sudo [12:33] arf [12:33] Is a full reboot requried or should a restart of x be enough? [12:33] D1: ??? pcmcia cards are pcmcia cards, there are only type I II and III === ace0027 [n=ace0027@S0106000f1f1154f5.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu === odBlXaWoe [n=ugpdkrf@85.186.194.196] has joined #ubuntu === odBlXaWoe [n=ugpdkrf@85.186.194.196] has left #ubuntu [] [12:33] ablyss, then you need to change the c-a-d action in /etc/inttab === ombr [n=noobiz@tru75-6-82-240-33-149.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === odBlXaWoe [n=ugpdkrf@85.186.194.196] has joined #ubuntu [12:33] I know but I mean wlan cards. [12:33] oh [12:33] D1: And I haven't seen a Type III pcmcia card wireless in my life. [12:34] they always stick out. === odBlXaWoe [n=ugpdkrf@85.186.194.196] has left #ubuntu [] [12:34] Well yes, most do that. [12:34] ablyss: not very relevant...physical access like that is root any way you look at it [12:34] D1: yes, because they have decent anntennas. [12:34] what shall i do when i have problems with broken packages?? [12:34] D1: Decent antenna meand decent reception. [12:34] A few hermes based cards out there have detachable antennas which let you choose === mode/#ubuntu [+b *!*@85.186.*] by Seveas [12:34] anybody running vmware on breezy? whenever i go into snapshot manager vmware dies [12:34] djm62, not sure i know what u mean [12:34] oh silly me i didnt logout === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-2-161.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:34] thanks Seveas, i will look at that [12:34] noooooooo apokryphos is back === Seveas runs [12:34] esac_: is that because you rm -rf'd it? === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has left #ubuntu ["So] === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:35] :) === theblue [n=theblue@pcp04402293pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:35] Guard shift? [12:35] interesting [12:35] Hi all. [12:35] apokryphos: Are you as nice as Seveas? [12:35] hi apokryphos ;) [12:35] Lars_G, he's even nicer [12:35] that was easy Seveas :-) [12:35] cafuego_: no, i did that on my windows host, linux guest box ... i am talking about my linux host, windows guest system === apokryphos plays loud death music on entrance === deus [n=deus@dsl207-46.adsl.no] has joined #ubuntu [12:35] ah *enlightend* [12:35] Seveas: hi =) === theblue [n=theblue@pcp04402293pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === codenut [n=upirc@chtw11-84.pei.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [12:35] Lars_G: nope.. nice :D [12:35] hmmm hmmm [12:35] esac_: evil [12:35] tty1 is root ? [12:35] thanks a bunch for the help [12:36] tty1 is tty1 [12:36] hi [12:36] does bitcomet work on ubuntu?? because i dont want to use GNOME bittorrent.. [12:36] cafuego_: which one, running a linux guest or a windows guest ? [12:36] ablyss: tty7 is where X is at [12:36] well /etc/inittab has ctrl-alt-del to use sbin command [12:36] ablyss: worrying about security when someone can touch your machine (to ctrl-alt-del it) is way too late. They can steal your computer, your disk, they can rewrite /etc/shadow, they can just break the damn thing...rebooting is basically the least of your worries. [12:36] ablyss: 1-6 are console sessions === codenut [n=upirc@chtw11-84.pei.sympatico.ca] has left #ubuntu [] [12:37] i'm able to use a sbin command in tty1 w/out sudo === ace0027 [n=ace0027@S0106000f1f1154f5.cg.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === dreumah [n=dreumah@spc1-derb1-3-0-cust218.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:37] c-a-d action is run as root iirc [12:37] apokryphos: And, you can have more than tty7 if you create several GUI instances [12:37] ablyss: which one? [12:37] anyway, off for a sec to test something [12:38] apokryphos, control-alt-del [12:38] Lars_G: yup; if your computer doesn't completely cripple out from it :P [12:38] an alias to shutdown [12:38] What?s Edubuntu ? [12:38] apokryphos: Well I've ran three sessions in a PIII-600 === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu [12:38] ablyss: djm62 is right. Fisical access and you are screewed === syntaxmonster [n=hehe@chello062178108206.9.12.tuwien.teleweb.at] has joined #ubuntu [12:38] crtr: google it. a distribution designed for schools [12:38] esac_: yes [12:38] apokryphos: That is, until I tried a GL screensaver.... [12:38] so yeah, I found out that if I run gpsd at all, my wireless dies as soon as I connect to the daemon [12:38] Lars_G: I should give it a retry. Try gnome next to kde to appropriately compare :P [12:38] crtr: it's linked from the Ubuntu front page [12:39] Eh, [12:39] a Minute of silence for the unconnected corpse of Seveas [12:40] *ping* [12:40] minute done [12:40] Lars_G: your clock is fast :D === __icebreaker_ [n=askme@dsl-084-060-131-064.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu === truth [n=truth@71.5.60.6.ptr.us.xo.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:40] thoreauputic: I am ADHD, I have no clock. [12:40] eeek , we are floating opless [12:40] thoreauputic: No internal RTC at all. [12:40] heheh === iooeZsFVEi [n=aqjoo@213.91.161.60] has joined #ubuntu === iooeZsFVEi [n=aqjoo@213.91.161.60] has left #ubuntu [] [12:40] thoreauputic: now the fun can start; Lars_G: crack open the champagne === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu === iooeZsFVEi [n=aqjoo@213.91.161.60] has joined #ubuntu [12:41] thoreauputic: I work with an external timing device, whose dissapearance means the end of time for my reality. [12:41] :-) smart folks in here [12:41] ok, put everything away guys === iooeZsFVEi [n=aqjoo@213.91.161.60] has left #ubuntu [] === Lars_G hides the glass and looks at the ceiling === thoreauputic ponders what the lesser ops can do while the boss is away [12:41] Seveas: It didn't work === theblue [n=theblue@pcp04402293pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:41] Hi all. [12:41] thoreauputic: ban the boss! [12:42] Where should I start on trying to get sound workign, I'm running ubuntu on a MSI AC97 motherboard === ablyss is tempted to reboot in the gdm and try to access tty1 [12:42] How do I add more resolutions to the menu to change the resolution? [12:42] ablyss: reboot? Why not hit ctrl-alt-F1 ? [12:42] Btw, Hoary is bassed on ESD and Breezy on a well mixed alsa, right? [12:42] cafuego_, ? [12:42] i'm retarded.. just ignore me [12:43] ablyss: ctrl-alt-f1 should take you to tty1, alt-f7 back to tty7 === GoRoDeK [n=gorodek@p5083D33A.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === magnon [n=magnon@photogeeks/magnon] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === ablyss is afk... trying to find his brain [12:43] Seveas: "Seveas: anyway, off for a sec to test something" === Lars_G steps on something mushy [12:43] oooops [12:43] .... [12:43] Seveas: From here, it seems like it didn't work. === Lars_G hands a troden brain back to ablyss [12:43] laoi, I was eating that! [12:43] cafuego_, correct, something fails terribly [12:44] brb. [12:44] somehow xchat needs to send 600 bytes of something to the server whrn I join, which gives me lag due to the throttling mechanism [12:44] Don't drink all the champagne while I'm out [12:44] and i have no clue what it's sending (even ethereal leaves me puzzled) [12:44] During installation I got the message "An error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system. Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details." Can I continue the installation, or is that something very important? === stpere [n=stpere@ts1-188.f1231.ts.globetrotter.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:44] Seveas: Use the source Luke. [12:45] oG|Tobias-GG, that is quite important... [12:45] Seveas: tls negotiation, which fails? [12:45] cafuego_, it's *after* I join all channels and I don't use tls === r7 [n=r7@82-38-184-79.cable.ubr03.shef.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:45] Seveas: Is it repetitive? [12:45] oG|Tobias-GG: Without that apckage, the system cannot install a bootable kernel. [12:45] Lars_G, yes, that's why it's so annoying :) [12:45] Seveas: Weird. Are you on-join spamming? ;-) [12:45] Seveas: Xchat has a "lag meter", it could be part of the detection mechanism. === eFFay [n=effay@l337.khg.sgsnet.se] has joined #ubuntu === aoakkoyoDg [n=wuaogi@d83-177-201-147.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu [12:46] Kk, what should I do then? [12:46] Lars_G, the lag meter is simply a /ping.... [12:46] Seveas: Possibly some kind of icmp or ctcp to the server/bots to check round trip time. [12:46] Lars_G: 600bytes seems large for an sping, though [12:46] true [12:46] Seveas: Simple solution is irssi, as usual. [12:46] irssi is nice [12:46] cafuego, meh, I hate irssi :) === aoakkoyoDg [n=wuaogi@d83-177-201-147.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu [] === iuveaooq [n=xotkaaoe@81.180.100.105] has joined #ubuntu [12:47] In soviet russia, irssi hates you. [12:47] (note: Evilseveas is my evil twin running irssi in a screen) [12:47] Seveas: Nah it's pretty ussefull. [12:47] Ignore I just said that. === apokryphos seriously recommends kvirc [12:47] it's more Qt than KDE (to be totally honest) [12:47] Seveas: That means you're the "good" twin? Holy canelonee. === ritalin [n=chad@12-220-142-196.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu === Seveas hates Qt/KDE more than irssi === iuveaooq [n=xotkaaoe@81.180.100.105] has left #ubuntu [] [12:47] Lars_G, muhahahaha >:) [12:47] I find it hard to use irssi when I actually have X running === tashiro [n=stephan@p213.54.215.34.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu === dzoeauk [n=wuaogi@d83-177-201-147.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu [12:47] but let's stop the off-topicness again [12:47] seems to defeat the point, but I do know it's powerful :) [12:47] Seveas: I love Qt === thoreauputic mods cafuego down : redundant [12:47] yes sir [12:48] oG|Tobias-GG: i do not know... You can switch to a virtual console Ctrl + Alt + F[2,3,4...] and check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log === dzoeauk [n=wuaogi@d83-177-201-147.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu [] === sambagirl [n=anita@c-24-99-26-225.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === dzoeauk [n=wuaogi@d83-177-201-147.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu === ablyss found out today opera went free.. is happy === apokryphos gives Lars_G a pat on the back 8) [12:48] trying to redo that step now [12:48] ablyss, opera still sucks though [12:48] === dzoeauk [n=wuaogi@d83-177-201-147.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu [] === ieeoXCo [n=xotkaaoe@81.180.100.105] has joined #ubuntu [12:48] Seveas: Don't look a gift horse on the mouth [12:48] question === Tartaros [n=icechat5@r4s251.chello.upc.cz] has joined #ubuntu [12:48] r7: Answer === ieeoXCo [n=xotkaaoe@81.180.100.105] has left #ubuntu [] [12:48] Seveas: software-wise, we almost are diametrically opposed. :P [12:49] how do u su off live cd [12:49] r7: sudo! [12:49] what's the password? [12:49] apokryphos, and ubuntu fits us both :) [12:49] r7: sudo === thoreauputic pulls out his ogg of RMS singing the Free Software Song [12:49] ubotu: tell r7 about sudo [12:49] r7: You don't you do sudo like in a full install. [12:49] Seveas: exactly; isn't that great? :) [12:49] Seveas: Altough, "what is the ubuntu user's password in the livecd" is a valid question. [12:49] r7, you should use sudo === ablyss is opera sucks.. then he don't wanna blow :P [12:49] === ablyss === Ninwa [n=joey@d14-69-55-174.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #Ubuntu [12:50] many thanks === djm62 capitulates cravenly under threat of RMS singing, be it opera or the Free software song [12:50] Seveas et al. maybe all this could be moved to #ubuntu-offtopic ;) oG|Tobias-GG would be glad XD [12:50] that's what i needed === chorton [n=chorton@pcp0010702372pcs.manass01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:50] back to dead hd recovery === stephank [n=stephank@ip503dc86f.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ubuntu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:50] erUSUL: Trouble is, ops are always right, whether we like it or not :( === oUpuiZioP [n=wuaogi@d83-177-201-147.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu === Ninwa [n=joey@d14-69-55-174.try.wideopenwest.com] has left #Ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:51] /me sets mode +bb Seveas apokryphos === Octane [n=octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu === mode/#ubuntu [+o Seveas] by ChanServ === ablyss votes for more irc clients on linux === mode/#ubuntu [+o apokryphos] by ChanServ [12:51] thoreauputic: what was that? ;-) === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax8-193.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu [requested] [12:51] War of the gods! === oUpuiZioP [n=wuaogi@d83-177-201-147.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu [] [12:51] what is with all these modes. back in my days there were like 2 letters :) === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax8-193.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:52] Lars_G: well yeah... right... forget what i've said ;) [12:52] esac_: And you walked two blocks in the snow to deliver a tcp packet, right? === thoreauputic slinks away with tail between legs === titanium [n=a@blk-222-179-143.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu [12:52] Lars_G: uphill, both ways ! === mathew [n=mathew@toronto-HSE-ppp4112378.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu === ouuEoae [n=wuaogi@d83-177-201-147.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu === stpere [n=stpere@ts1-188.f1231.ts.globetrotter.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:52] bahaha [12:52] hello [12:52] This channel is hell for tab completing lazy sods. === ouuEoae [n=wuaogi@d83-177-201-147.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu [] [12:53] sorry for disturbing, but i have a slight problem with login into a gnome session using gdm. first i thought it has something to do with the .ICEAuthority problem often discused but the problem cannot be solved by deleting the file ;( === __icebreaker_ is now known as _icebreaker_ [12:53] grmbl === jrattner1 [n=jrattner@uhartford216126.hartford.edu] has joined #ubuntu === marius_ [n=marius@cpe-024-074-088-247.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:54] GoRoDeK, login in text mode, rm -r ~/.Xauthority ~/.ICEauthority /tmp/* [12:54] and retry in gui mode [12:54] (brb - last time) [12:54] Lars_G: Yeah, ideally there'd be a 36 user limit. [12:54] is there a good reason "apt-get remove firefox" should make firefox impossible to reinstall? === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu === _Caleb_ [n=ichigo@cpe-065-191-209-077.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === djm62 [n=djm62@82-40-136-135.cable.ubr08.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [12:54] Toba no [12:55] hi i have a rio carbon 5 gig and i was wondering how i can access it in ubuntu [12:55] but it happened... === rdw200169 [n=randy@cpe-24-242-36-216.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:55] illogical stuff has been happening [12:55] <_Caleb_> sup martii [12:55] and it makes my insides turn into anger and more anger [12:55] dreumah: plug it in, see what 'dmesg' says. [12:55] <_Caleb_> sup marius_ [12:55] <_Caleb_> lol [12:55] it's not fucking true that ubuntu is anything for human beings [12:55] That's it -- I give up [12:55] Toba: sure it is! [12:55] Toba computers are plagued with this kind of things [12:55] if you step outside the narrow path of gui it stabs you in the face and leaves you to die [12:56] not much man [12:56] caleb [12:56] erUSUL: funny, I never have problems like this with freebsd or windows... [12:56] Toba: yes, it's much more rewarding to stab human beings in the face than mindless machines. [12:56] cafuego i dont know what it says, i dont understand it [12:56] Toba, go back to them then [12:56] so nobody has any experience with apt completely breaking a package when I remove it? [12:56] Toba: paste the output from ''apt-cache policy firefox'' in #flood [12:56] dreumah: ANything about sda or sdb? [12:57] Toba, if you never had problems with windows or freebsd why change? [12:57] Toba: Were you using backports of any kind? [12:57] Toba: you'll wont believe what happened to me this last two days with my computer both hardware and software ;) [12:57] because freebsd was horrible for desktop and had hardly any software === spoilerhead [n=julia@ppp213-123.aknet.it] has left #ubuntu ["Verlassend"] [12:57] toba: I've witnessed people fuck up their systems with Apt Get, but that was under debian and they were syncing with unstable. === Toba pastes to #flood [12:57] did they think that 'unstable' meant something else? === truth [n=truth@71.5.60.6.ptr.us.xo.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:58] hardly ... any ... software? wtf are you smoking? :) I use FreeBSD at work all the time. Plenty of software in ports, and it can emulate Linux too. [12:58] Toba: it does this to many packages? Could you elaborate? [12:58] rdw200169: They were silly. It was amusing. [12:58] cafuego i dont know what it says, i dont understand it === jims [n=jims@adsl-69-235-32-210.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:58] apokryphos: no, just firefox [12:58] cafuego not that i see [12:58] <_Caleb_> well marius_ since you are new to ubuntu i think you can find help in here when you need it [12:58] I only like the OSX flavour of fbsd. [12:58] Toba: and with windows this eavening [12:58] I wanted to get 1.0.7 [12:58] btw, how is DragonflyBSD? [12:58] hi. i have a problem using german umlauts in my console (xterm and tty). Only strange characters are displayed. whats wrong? [12:58] Hmm, when trying to check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log i get "Permission denied". What should I do to be able to read it? [12:58] I downloaded that from mozilla [12:58] dreumah: Then I dunno. [12:58] the new preview of breezy is awesome [12:58] Toba: how is the package "broken"? [12:58] but it wouldn't install because 1.0.6 was here [12:58] apokryphos: I'm getting to that [12:59] Toba: you downloaded the pack from mozilla? [12:59] Toba: you're on Hoary? [12:59] so I did "apt-get remove firefox" which removed some other stuff based on dependencies [12:59] yes hoary === am285 [n=andreasm@62-99-167-68.static.adsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] Toba: and you used a backport from Breezy? [12:59] Seveas, thx for your help, but its still not working. where can the problem be located? [12:59] ...what? [12:59] Toba: that should tell you something. [12:59] Toba: 1.06 is broken in backports [12:59] aha! [12:59] I need to get out of backports and do an update then? [12:59] here are the 2 lines of the auth.log file [12:59] Sep 23 00:56:49 localhost gdm[1180] : (pam_unix) session opened for user myuser by (uid=0) [12:59] Sep 23 00:56:49 localhost gdm[1180] : (pam_unix) session closed for user myuser [12:59] you would need to dist-upgrade to Breezy if you wanted Ubuntu's 1.0.7 === mello6 [n=mellowyl@c-67-162-226-133.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:00] he downloaded from mozilla I doubt he got it from backports. [01:00] I do not recommend plopping Breezy's 1.0.7 into Hoary [01:00] cafuego_ so it should just work plug and play [01:00] ?? [01:00] crimsun: this has nothing to do with 1.0.7 [01:00] not from breezy anyway [01:00] I think it's more related to the fact he used remove instead of purge... but that is me. [01:00] I downloaded the installer from mozilla.org [01:00] dreumah: Dunno, my iPod does... just gets detected as disk ands shows up on the desktop. [01:00] not anything to do with breezy [01:00] why did you use apt-get and not synaptic? [01:00] Toba: disable backports, sudo aptitude purge firefox (or mozilla-firefox), sudo apt-get update && sudo aptitude install mozilla-firefo [01:00] Toba: So why would it be a Ubuntu problem then, if you're not using Ubuntu software? [01:00] how can I tell if I'm in backports? === _Caleb_ [n=ichigo@cpe-065-191-209-077.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [01:01] Toba: erm, when you mix upstream's stuff with packaged stuff, expect things to break. [01:01] dv_: doesn't really matter [01:01] which repository is it? [01:01] dv_: is indiferent [01:01] Toba: disable the one that says backports [01:01] ok, I guess sources.list is no the best method [01:01] Toba: and the one that says hoary-updates [01:01] ok, i must admit the purge/remove issue is can be really confusing at first [01:01] -is [01:01] hi i have a rio carbon 5 gig and i was wondering how i can access it in ubuntu [01:02] Anyone who have any idea of why I can not install the initrd-tools package? When installing the ground system I just get an error message. [01:02] dreumah: If you plug it in, doesn't it just open as a USB device in /media/? [01:02] it's not really confusing. Purge removes conffiles. Remove doesn't. [01:02] dv_: just bear in mind that Synaptic is purely a GUI front-end to apt; it's all the same at the back. [01:02] dreumah, how is it accessed in windows? like a usb data storage device? [01:02] What could I do to make it work? [01:02] or with some special software? [01:02] dv_: man pages are good :) [01:02] apokryphos, true. [01:02] i just removed all openoffice packages.. how can i ensure they're all gone [01:02] (using aptitude) [01:02] gone from cache as well [01:02] BUT synaptic is a lot better for people who do not want to dig through manpages [01:02] where does breezy put the source to the kernel? === Nikopol [n=Nikopol@i-195-137-15-67.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:03] /usr/src I hope [01:03] lol no [01:03] Beryllium no it doesnt [01:03] no? [01:03] and apokryphos, requiring people to dig through several partly obscure manpages is really not very user friendly [01:03] Octane: 'apt-cache clean' [01:03] dv_ iin eindows it just opens as you said, data storage device [01:03] does it just install a pre-compiled image like i think it does? [01:03] thats why I would have used synaptic === spiz [n=opera@80.71.100.153] has joined #ubuntu [01:03] cafuego_: anything else [01:03] dv_: I really don't think they're that obscure, if you learn basics [01:03] besides cleaning my debs === pedgett [i=word@r01pgehfb.desktop.umr.edu] has joined #ubuntu [01:03] dv_: Yeah, requiring people to buy books and dig thorough them is so much friendlier. [01:03] Octane: Config files? [01:04] dv_: I view them in Konqueror, anyhow; very pretty there :) [01:04] apokryphos: Holy fuck, konqueror has a man page handler? === tombs [n=tombs@h141186.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:04] cafuego_ its actually apt-get clean all === mysticaurora [n=mystic@63.135.142.94] has joined #ubuntu [01:04] apokryphos: Why didn't you say so before? Nirvana! Nirvana! has come! [01:04] it shouldnt involve books or manpages. [01:04] Lars_G: a kioslave, yes. man:command or #command -- yes. Has special styles; very good :) [01:04] Lars_G, man:/ [01:04] Octane: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | grep ^rc | awk '{print $2}' | xargs sudo dpkg -P [01:04] where does breezy put the source to the kernel? [01:04] apokryphos: To be fail konqueror has so many kioslaves it takes to days to try them all === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:05] I like locate:/ [01:05] Octane: yep, 'apt-get clean' ( I get confused this early in the morning) [01:05] Lars_G: help:/kioslave has most :P === N17R0 [n=w00t@unaffiliated/n17r0] has joined #ubuntu [01:05] apokryphos: Thanks sir. [01:05] and coffee:/ is pretty nice [01:05] thanks guys [01:05] coffee:/ ?? [01:05] it worked [01:05] Lars_G: you can view any doc/handbook using the help kioslave. i.e. help:konqueror === Lars_G kicks chavo [01:05] just some remove button for easy, safe uninstalling. thats what most users want. [01:05] actually wait [01:05] it didn't [01:05] fuck [01:05] does anyone know of a way to play iTunes Store files in Ubuntu? [01:05] apokryphos: Nice. [01:05] md5sum failed === Toba tries again [01:06] apokryphos: Does it has an info kioslave as well? [01:06] Toba: did you follow my instructions? [01:06] yegh, kioslaves [01:06] yes [01:06] such a bad idea... === spiz [n=opera@80.71.100.153] has left #ubuntu [] [01:06] Lars_G: a what? [01:06] I removed backports and 5.04 updates [01:06] apokryphos: Info... info kioslave..... [01:06] Seveas: amazing idea :) [01:06] indeed === Determinist lights a smoke [01:06] yeah, it was just random corruption [01:06] it worked this time [01:06] well, the idea behind hidning stuff behind urls is great [01:06] Seveas: just as bad as gnome-vfs ... ;) [01:06] i think i need eye replacements [01:06] the implementation/technique used sucks === crakrjak [n=Michel@209.216.91.202] has joined #ubuntu [01:07] Determinist: outside [01:07] right i have it working now [01:07] thanks anyways === fredforfaen [n=Morrari@216-134-9.0502.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu [01:07] Seveas, because.... ? === AlexMBas [n=alexandr@200.103.138.157] has joined #ubuntu [01:08] almost ran into some truck on the highway on the way home at 130kmph... i seriously need to have my eyes checked... that, or more sleeping hours [01:08] kioslaves work great here [01:08] dv_: delusional, of course :P [01:08] does anyone know of a way to play iTunes Store files in Ubuntu? [01:08] talking about itunes, I wonder if they could get apple to write a linux version of itunes. [01:08] hello [01:08] =/ [01:08] no joke [01:08] mello6: just play or buy? [01:08] bought [01:08] any idea why sudo won't work in the breezy badger preview?? [01:08] does anyone knows how to load drivers on ubuntu expert installation? [01:08] Ahh seveas went again? [01:08] AACs work perfectly [01:08] shouldn't be too hard, since it's already somewhat bsd based. [01:08] mello6: no, I mean do you want to play files or do you want to BUY them under Linux? [01:08] yep [01:08] gotcha [01:08] hmm why do i get a gcc command not found when i try to make something? [01:08] play [01:09] kataklsym; Coz gcc isn't installed? [01:09] mello6: I use jHymn to strip the DRM and vlc to play them. [01:09] kataklsym: What are you building? [01:09] kataklsym: Lets see.... possibly gcc is not installed? [01:09] is that on windows or linux? [01:09] jHymn [01:09] mello6: both. It's Java-based. [01:09] i installed that essential thing [01:09] does gcc not come with it? [01:09] ah, thanks man [01:09] hello [01:09] ahh the essential thing. [01:09] gcc is in build-essential [01:09] it's so... essential. [01:10] well [01:10] mello6: I run jHymn under win32, though [01:10] build essential [01:10] i couldnt remember the name of it [01:10] kataklsym: Did you also get 'checkinstall' ? [01:10] what happen to ubuntu 5.04 starter guide gone [01:10] cafuego: no [01:10] everyone on breezy now [01:10] kataklsym: Then before doing anything else, check wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall [01:10] hmm it says it is trying to use gcc 3.4 === DansFloyd [n=dan@user-12l252r.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu === spiderworm [n=tellim@ip68-3-31-10.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:12] does anyone here uses HighPoint RocketRAID boars on Ubuntu? [01:12] AlexMBas: yes [01:12] AlexMBas: read the raid faq :) === paul124897 [n=paul@ACCA6A60.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:13] Well, It seems Seveas is gone for good [01:13] HrdwrBoB, which raid faq? [01:13] on wiki.ubuntu? [01:13] i have a problem with loging into a gnome session using gdm. also a new created user cannot get in. where the problem can be located? [01:14] /usr/bin/make test -- NOT OK [01:14] :( [01:14] HrdwrBoB, do you use RAID1? [01:15] got that when doing perl -MCPAN -e "install XML::DOM" [01:15] any ideas how i can fix it? [01:15] (ps, im a n00b) ;;) [01:15] does anyone know if ubuntu installs the source to the kernel in case is needs to be used? if so where? [01:15] did you install build-essential, paul124897? [01:16] does anyone else have sudo/su problems in breezy??? [01:16] is there any program that suppoerts ipods? [01:16] paul124897: of course you know that that's avoidable: sudo aptitude install libxml-dom-perl [01:16] like an itunes for linux? :) [01:16] yes crimsun === Seveas [n=dennis@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Laney [n=laish@81-178-67-235.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:17] mindframe: not by default. Why do you need the source? Do the headers not suffice? === Octane_ [n=octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu === GodFather [n=rcc@pcp09006310pcs.watrfd01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:17] thanks crimsun, will try that way [01:17] crimsun, im trying to compile a newer version of ndiswrapper that i cant find a package for and it needs the kernel source for some reason === Seveas [n=dennis@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Lars_G [n=lars@unaffiliated/lars-g/x-000001] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === Seveas [n=dennis@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:19] thanks, nzbperl works now === robotgeek [n=robotgee@adsl-70-250-184-230.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:20] mindframe: I'm pretty sure you only need linux-headers-$(uname -r) === mode/#ubuntu [+o Seveas] by ChanServ === FatDarrel [n=Motu@68-115-87-184.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === ..[topic/#ubuntu:Seveas] : Official Ubuntu Help channel | Documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation | Use paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting | Channel logs: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ | General chatter: #ubuntu-offtopic | Found a bug? report it: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ | Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes [01:20] HrdwrBoB, the how-to I have found on ubuntu forum does not say anything on how to install a system on RAID0 or RAID1, it says a lot on how to get RAID 1 or RAID 0 on installed system [01:20] is it the right how-to? [01:20] grmbl, my xchat now is really messed up... [01:21] Hey, if anyone knows a bit about cedega. I get this when trying to run a standard fan patch on the drive: /.transgaming/c_drive/Program Files/Origin Systems/Ultima IX # cedega u9name.exe [01:21] For language 'en' several language ids were found: [01:21] en_US - 0409; en_GB - 0809; en_AU - 0C09; en_CA - 1009; en_NZ - 1409; en_IE - 1809; en_ZA - 1C09; en_JM - 2009; en_ - 2409; en_BZ - 2809; en_TT - 2C09; [01:21] Instead of using first in the list, suggest to define [01:21] your LANG environment variable like this: LANG=en_US [01:21] Warning: unprotecting the first 64KB of memory to allow real-mode calls. [01:21] Seveas: irssi :) [01:21] NULL pointer accesses will no longer be caught. [01:21] ack === ouroboros was kicked off #ubuntu by Seveas (Seveas) [01:21] ouroboros: pastebin!! === ouroboros [n=ouroboro@ool-182fb5a1.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:21] Our Rob or Ross [01:21] my busy === ouroboros was kicked off #ubuntu by Seveas (Seveas) === chemisus [n=chemisus@pcp09463696pcs.ctftmy01.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === Octane_ [n=octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:21] Seveas: right click hate! === Area_Man [n=dub@netblock-66-245-205-63.dslextreme.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:22] hello [01:22] hi Area_Man [01:22] hi GoRoDeK [01:22] have a question [01:22] does annyone here have ubuntu installed on a RAID array? [01:23] yes [01:23] I do [01:23] to install on a raid drive [01:23] you can configure it all in the installer === ngmlinux_ [n=ngmlinux@ool-182e62b2.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu === ngmlinux_ [n=ngmlinux@ool-182e62b2.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:24] ??? [01:24] breezy or hoary? [01:24] both [01:24] hell I did it on warty :) [01:24] I am on hoary expert mode [01:24] i just installed ubuntu on my old laptop and it recognized my pcmcia ethernet card fine, but it seems to balk at my wireless card. it is a netgear wg511. any ideas? === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [01:24] ubuntu kills my laptop battery... [01:24] nad have found nothing [01:24] !wireless [01:24] wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards [01:24] but Software RAID [01:24] yes [01:24] your raid card isn't === aeieE [n=ooooeb@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu [01:25] Area_Man: off the top of my head, it should just work === aeieE [n=ooooeb@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] === nDiBea [n=ynihaehl@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu === nDiBea is now known as leuaopJee === aQoGieue [n=ooooeb@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu [01:26] HrdwrBoB, yeah, I know [01:26] kzm, thanks robotgeek === leuaopJee [n=ynihaehl@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] === Lars_G [n=lars@unaffiliated/lars-g/x-000001] has joined #ubuntu [01:26] apokryphos: I owe you one [01:26] HrdwrBoB, the raid options you told me on install are on server mode? === aQoGieue [n=ooooeb@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] === madcowmad [n=mad@adsl-211-40-35.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:26] hey can someone help me install something? pure ubuntu/linux noob === SlicerDicer [n=Slicer@macceketh.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:26] Lars_G: USD will do (even though I'd prefer GBPs) [01:27] Area_Man: automagically depends on whether yours was made in taiwan or in china. just follow the links in the wiki === _zxsykco [n=zxsykco@adsl-68-75-52-211.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:27] I alway run my laptop from the mains, never from the battery. after about a year of doing this, the battery stopped working. is that to be expected? [01:27] apokryphos: Dream on, I am broke and I still need to buy parts for the car. [01:27] ok, it's a chinese one [01:27] haha [01:27] apokryphos: But you can feel yourself usefull :) the man kioslave is a blessing === MrRagga [n=jonas@p54A51775.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu === Lars_G [n=lars@unaffiliated/lars-g/x-000001] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === Seveas [n=seveas@seveas.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:28] macow: what do u need to install? === treeeeo [n=ooooeb@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu === treeeeo [n=ooooeb@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] [01:28] kripes [01:29] ndiswrapper [01:29] madcowmad: what do you need help with? === darkheart [n=darkhear@cpe-24-170-59-251.stx.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:29] HrdwrBoB I am trying to load the hpt374 drivers from floppy, but it states that the floppy is not compatible === jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:29] it is the redhat driver floppy [01:29] AlexMBas: do not bother [01:30] AlexMBas: use it as an IDE controller [01:30] it's not a raid controller [01:30] the raid options are there even on basic mode [01:30] the drivers you want to install are nothing more than binary software raid drivers [01:30] ?? [01:30] so, what should I do? [01:30] use software raid [01:30] I have set up raid 1 on hpt bios [01:31] the card should be detected as an IDE controller [01:31] should I undo it? [01:31] yeah [01:31] hmmm [01:31] just set it to appear as disks === n00b [n=noobiz@tru75-6-82-240-33-149.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:31] ok === n00b [n=noobiz@tru75-6-82-240-33-149.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === cask [n=noobiz@tru75-6-82-240-33-149.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:31] and I should use software raid instead === bazh [n=bas@cust-02-D371.adsl.scarlet.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:31] ok [01:31] yep === cask [n=noobiz@tru75-6-82-240-33-149.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === bushk [n=bushk@horatio-111.cs.utexas.edu] has joined #ubuntu === am285 [n=andreasm@62-99-167-68.static.adsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu [01:32] I thought RocketRAID boards had RAID engine onboard === STK_ToNhO_ [n=Tonho@201.11.18.26] has joined #ubuntu [01:32] so I was pretty wrong about it === Surak [n=Surak@201009097014.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [01:32] HrdwrBoB, thank you very much [01:32] very very much === Surak [n=Surak@201009097014.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #ubuntu [] [01:32] AlexMBas: no worries :) [01:33] AlexMBas: yeah IDE raid controllers are almost all software === Rylie [n=unnone@65-182-234-130.ccmtc.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:33] and those that aren't are 'accelerators' and are usually not well supported === locomorto [n=locomort@unaffiliated/locomorto] has joined #ubuntu [01:33] is there something similar to rfswitch for ubuntu? === _zxsykco [n=zxsykco@adsl-68-75-52-211.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:33] if you want a real raid card, it'll cost you some serious $, an adaptec or 3ware SATA raid card [01:33] but for the most part software IDE raid is fine === windex [n=windex@dpc67143139042.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:33] mindframe: what is rfswitch? [01:33] mindframe: what does rfswitch do === Trilobite [n=Trilobit@host86-138-17-76.range86-138.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:34] rfswitch.sourceforge.net [01:34] crimsun - i just scrubbed all those m4p files [01:34] thanks =] === hosler [n=h0sl3r@cpe-68-206-129-175.jam.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:34] i think this is the reason my onboard wifi isnt working. there is one of those retarded switches on this laptop that turns the wifi on / off. [01:35] i hit it and it does nothing in linux === boxerboy29 [n=boxerboy@adsl-144-177-44.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:35] HrdwrBoB, one last question, hoary supports booting from a software RAID partition? === Kentoo [n=Kentoo@host-84-222-174-116.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu === henafi [n=henafi@242-157-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu [01:35] AlexMBas: yes [01:36] HrdwrBoB cool === newbies_ubuntu [n=rick@c-24-2-39-39.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:36] HrdwrBoB, thanks again [01:36] mindframe: this is the first time i've seen anything similiar to this, but i guess u can compile it on your own === hosler [n=h0sl3r@cpe-68-206-129-175.jam.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === ian_ [n=ian@RN246-55.resnet.uoguelph.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:37] robotgeek, im out of clues as to why the wireless wont work on this laptop === fiferjim_ [n=fiferjim@pcp03622453pcs.clintn01.ct.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:37] mindframe: what wireless card [01:37] mini-pci broadcom bcm4306 rev3 [01:38] hi guys, i've just installed ubuntu as a dual boot with winxp, transferred my files across from the windows to the linux partition, and then to free up space i wanted to shrink my windows partition, which i did, but qtparted won't let me expand the linux partition to fill the space, leaving a big useless gap on my hard disk. any ideas? [01:38] everything is detected [01:38] it just becomes dumb when trying to contact a wide open network [01:38] mindframe: ndiswrapper? [01:38] Trilobite: you can't expand the beginning of an ext[23] partition backward [01:38] is anybody else running breezy and vmware 5.0 ? === P229 [n=P229@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:0:0:0:15] has joined #ubuntu [01:39] Trilobite: using parted-based tools, that is === ghostfreeman_ [n=ghostfre@67.132.246.104] has joined #ubuntu [01:39] robotgeek, affirmative [01:39] Trilobite: if you want to do that, you need to use Partition Magic [01:39] ok === Coster [n=coster@ip42082.poa.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [01:39] hi [01:39] robotgeek, looks like someone made a driver for the "acer hotkey" - going to try it out [01:39] i have scsi card and hp surestore DAT40. How do i configure with ubuntu ? thanks [01:39] mindframe: kk [01:39] there's nothing else i can do then? because i thought perhaps i could move the partition back and expand at the end of it, but it wouldn't let me do that either [01:39] newbies_ubuntu: it should Just Work [01:40] HrdwrBoB, thank you very much again === Coster having some weird problem with xine + xorg [01:40] HrdwrBoB: how can i check it ? [01:40] I have to reboot now ... [01:40] see you later folks [01:40] I got a dell latitude 110l, and switched the video driver from vesa to i810... ever since, any MPEG movie I play shows up weird === macarthy [n=macarthy@83.147.128.22] has joined #ubuntu === shadeofgrey [n=shadeofg@user-11200ev.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:40] i need help guys [01:41] i just installed mplayer for mozilla [01:41] anybody running with a sony vaio with ultrabright ? i would like to get it working in linux [01:41] whats the name of the package i need for win32codecs? [01:41] shadeofgrey: w32codecs [01:41] esac: you'll loose a lot of your apecialty hardware [01:41] apokryphos: whats the source i need to get it from? === auk [n=scott@h-69-3-179-55.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:42] shadeofgrey: check the PM ubotu just sent you [01:42] shadeofgrey: bah, i shouldn't have to lose it :) [01:42] ubuntu newbie question: I have added some smb share to my places menu, but they don't show up oin my save/open dialogs, am i doing something stupid? [01:42] how do i properly put that in my sources.list file [01:42] ? [01:42] deb seveas.ubuntulinux.nl [01:42] ? [01:42] shadeofgrey: are you on breezy? [01:43] apok: yessir [01:43] shadeofgrey: go to the link suggested === BurgerMann is now known as Burger^ZzzZz === bowb4me [n=bowb4me@hlfxns0145w-142167158236.ns.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu === bowb4me [n=bowb4me@hlfxns0145w-142167158236.ns.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:45] ubuntu newbie question: I have added some smb shares to my places menu, but they don't show up in my save/open dialogs, am i doing something stupid? [01:46] what do you think (http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/9219/getubuntu8dc.gif) [01:47] ? [01:47] macarthy, only some applications support it [01:47] bugger [01:47] hey listen... THANK YOU - everybody who makes ubuntu and this channel possible. i am SO GLAD i grew some bigger balls and got out of a windows world. ill never ever go back [01:47] zrothe: too big for those little things (that go on webpages) [01:47] shadeofgrey :) [01:47] but cool === laszlok [n=laszlo@134.117.187.134] has joined #ubuntu [01:48] shadeofgrey: heh, good to hear :) [01:48] windex: I googled, read something about a NEW dialog, is that the one that supports it? [01:48] apok, you mean its to large pixel wise? [01:48] shadeofgrey: thats nice, but i guarantee you'll go back at least once or twice before finally sticking to it [01:48] zrothe: size-wise, yes (bigger than the standard)... lemme grab an example === vaticano [n=vaticano@200.57.50.91] has joined #ubuntu [01:48] windex: is there a standard application that supports it? so I can see it in action? [01:49] firefox is 5 pixels taller [01:49] I made it the same length [01:49] something to go by anyway [01:49] or 3 px taller [01:49] does "display" work in breezy? [01:49] has anyone here gotten the gyach-enhanced to work with ubuntu? [01:49] zrothe: firefox what? [01:49] esac: you underestimate my resolve... i doused all my windows CD's and $500 worth of microsoft office CD's in lighterfluid and burned them in my front yard yesterday. [01:49] 'get firefox' logos [01:50] zrothe: I'm not sure what you're trying to make, but an example fo the size: http://www.canllaith.org/ [01:50] i had a problem in RHEL where it just closed out unexpectedly, same thing happens in ubuntu [01:50] oh great, its kataklsym [01:50] esac: yea and i fixed my xorg.conf too :D [01:50] kataklsym: without reinstalling i hope ? === Coster [n=coster@ip42082.poa.virtua.com.br] has left #ubuntu [] [01:50] correct [01:50] shadeofgrey: no way! didn't ya? [01:51] i blew my xorg.conf to hell last night and had to redo my entire instaallation from scratch [01:51] kataklsym: ok then i forgive you :) [01:51] lol [01:51] it was a bug in breezy [01:51] the updates messed up the xorg.conf [01:51] shadeofgrey: always back up before f*ck with something that you don't know 100% .. heck even then always backup [01:51] and i had updated but not restarted x [01:51] and when i did the v4l thing i got the bug === TerminX [n=terminx@terminx.envision7.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:51] heh [01:51] is it actually possible to do a 'upgrade' from hoary > breezy or is it best to just alter sources.list to breezy and dist-ugrade ? [01:51] is there an off-the-record encryption package for ubuntu? [01:51] would a breezy user please try "display" and tell me if it complains of missing fonts? [01:51] IcemanV9: way! they burned well.... very very well with enough encouragement. [01:51] kataklsym: i was trying to tell you that, you wouldn't listen :) === Trilobite [n=Trilobit@host86-138-17-76.range86-138.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:52] esac_: i listened to u, it was someone else in here trying to tell me that i could do this and do that and i might get it fixed, when that wasnt the case [01:52] heh [01:52] dooglus: do i need to apt-get display first ? [01:52] I mean as in with the new preview release CD [01:52] esac_: the absence of backups forced me to really learn how to do it... =) i redid the whole installation in .... 3 hours or so [01:52] esac_: it comes with ubuntu [01:52] kataklsym: yeah its nice when the whole class thinks they are the teacher :) [01:52] esac_: part of the 'imagemagick' package [01:52] finally: i just went to my ubuntu machine, and done a bunch of shit, til it worked [01:52] shadeofgrey: ha. i dumped windows 5 months ago. :) did NOT missed it at all. [01:53] plus i got my v4l / webcam working too [01:53] people in here were giving me up the road yesterday [01:53] lol [01:53] esac_: it should be in /usr/bin [01:53] dooglus: i'll try to give it a shot, my proxy server at work isn't liking my linux laptop for some reason [01:53] i dont miss it either its just hard to explain to ppl linux does same thing as winblows but when you go to transfering files and stuff its different [01:53] shadeofgrey: i use rsync to backup my stuff [01:53] ALL I want to know now is... is it possible to use the 30" apple cinema display assuming i install a nvidia 7800 card? [01:54] whats rsync? [01:54] shadeofgrey: of course [01:54] man rsync :P [01:54] i really want to encrypt my shit... and all my email and stuff too [01:54] is it possible to encrypt irc sessions? [01:54] with ubuntu? [01:54] how do i print my kernel version? [01:54] anyway, now everything is workin ok, except im on a mission to find a yahoo messenger client that supports webcam viewing/sending, and works in ubuntu [01:54] uname -r [01:54] dooglus: i just ran display and it seems to work .. pops up the program and a file dialog [01:55] shadeofgrey: IRC doesn't use an encrypted protocol. you can encrypt your logfiles if that's what you mean [01:55] ^-- mindframe [01:55] esac_: thanks. must be me then. [01:55] esac_: out of interest, what does "xlsfonts | wc -l" tell you? [01:55] shadeofgrey: WWVzLCBidXQgdGhlbiBub2JvZHkgY2FuIHJlYWQgd2hhdCB5b3UncmUgc2F5aW5nLg== [01:55] shadeofgrey: So I doubt it's actually useful. [01:55] kataklsyn: i think your gonna have to use 2 different programs for that [01:55] wine? [01:56] dooglus: 2937 .. i installed 4 or 5 others too === robotgeek [n=robotgee@adsl-70-250-184-230.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has left #ubuntu [] [01:56] cafuego, base64 isn't encryption ;) [01:56] boxxerboy29: like what? === dv_ [n=dv_@A087P006.hs.highway.telekom.at] has joined #ubuntu [01:56] Seveas: it is too! [01:56] nope [01:56] cafuego_: what are you talking about, i can read what you are saying [01:56] Seveas: Not a very good one, but still. [01:56] merely encoding [01:56] i know there is a yahoo messenger for ubuntu other than gaim but i dont know if it supports ccamming === moro [n=moro@eu83-213-18-29.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #ubuntu [01:57] probably kopete or something === lw-afk is now known as lukewarm [01:57] which doesnt [01:57] theres a .deb download on yahoo site === usuario [n=usuario@ip-182.uamericas.cl] has joined #ubuntu [01:57] gaim-vv supports viewing of webcam but not broadcasting [01:57] Inefay thenpay, I'll otspay. [01:57] kataklsym: it does, actually (in 3.5) [01:57] boxerboy29: that yahoo client sux, the yahoo for linux [01:57] yes so ive heard [01:58] i use gaim for yahoo and aim [01:58] svn at least, actually; will have to verify the 3.5 [01:58] cafuego_: V org lbh pna'g ernq jung v'z fnlvat! [01:58] spokyrphos: what do u mean? [01:58] u talking about kopete? or what? [01:58] euskaldunik? [01:58] esac_, english please :p [01:58] where does rot13 live again? [01:58] kataklsym: yes [01:58] cafuego_, rot26 is easier [01:58] Seveas: that was english, just rot13 [01:58] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68322 [01:58] anyone? === moro [n=moro@eu83-213-18-29.clientes.euskaltel.es] has left #ubuntu ["Irteten"] [01:59] esac_, looked like klingon to me ;( [01:59] ;) [01:59] apokryphos: is it on the repos? [01:59] Or maybe english backwards, that's safe enough against most scrip kiddies. [01:59] kataklsym: 3.5 is, but I'll have to verify that, as I said [02:00] Ph'nglui Mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'Lyeh Wgah'nagl Fhtagn [02:00] .. /pircs/tpircs/s === DansFloyd [n=dan@user-12l252r.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:00] should it be backslash rather then slash in right-to-left? ;-) [02:00] im installing kopete anyway, i will see what it does [02:00] cafuego_: lol you are probably right ! [02:00] _oguefac, _esac, can we get back on topic please... [02:01] Seveas: dad ykao. === da_bon_bon [n=rohan@unaffiliated/dabonbon/x-000000001] has joined #ubuntu === bimberi [n=bimberi@DC-244-230.bpb.bigpond.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:02] how can i view the kernel config in ubuntu? [02:02] mindframe: zcat /proc/config.gz === Krypto- [i=krypto@d57-204-209.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:03] cafuego, that does no exist [02:03] mindframe, or less /boot/config* [02:03] how about now? http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5152/getubuntu4jc.gif [02:03] apokryphos: kopete 3.5??? the version on the repository is 0.10.3 [02:03] kataklsym: kubuntu.org [02:03] mindframe: Did you compile your own kernel or use a preinstalled one? === laszlok [n=laszlo@134.117.187.134] has joined #ubuntu [02:04] cafuego, pre-installed. i found it in /boot === mrkookz [n=john@203.57.7.3] has joined #ubuntu === cafuego_ stabs the Gimp for not opening a file it just created [02:05] cafuego_: yesterday you suggested i try installing ugidd for my nfs problems... so i put map_daemon into /etc/exports and installed ugidd, but I get an error "Unsupported mapping" when restarting nfs.. any thoughts? [02:05] goodbye, hours of work. [02:06] enntee: using nfs-kernel-server? [02:06] cafuego_: yep [02:06] enntee: use nfs-user-server for ugidd [02:06] cafuego_: ah, thanks. [02:06] apokryphos: where at on there? [02:06] kataklsym: 3.5 beta 1 packages === Nomad_1 [n=nomad@host-205-201-82-15.classicnet.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:06] Hey All === sells [n=steve@cpe-70-115-51-3.elp.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === bagawk [n=lee@unaffiliated/bagawk] has joined #ubuntu [02:09] hi Nomad_1 :) === eogek [n=iedooiae@85.204.194.12] has joined #ubuntu === eogek [n=iedooiae@85.204.194.12] has left #ubuntu [] [02:10] apokryphos, how are things going? === reini [n=reini@p548FA8EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu === ed_ [n=ed@pcp09529279pcs.eatntn01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:11] Pretty excellent, yup :) [02:11] Nomad_1: you? [02:11] I have vanilla kernel source (not the ubuntu, this is from kernel.org), and when I config I have all the options set as the ubuntu default. Why is that? ANd how to fix? === theblue_ [n=theblue@pcp04402293pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === lnical [n=lnical@adsl-216-94-26-195.kwic.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:12] apokryphos, Not bad at all mate. Glad to hear you're doing so good. [02:12] s`a [02:12] ^<---- that's my cat saying hi :-p [02:12] hola! [02:12] =) === jsubl2 [n=jsubl2@72.48.95.220] has joined #ubuntu [02:13] bagawk: because the kernel build system got the options from /boot/ [02:13] bagawk: if you really think you know better, "rm .config ; touch .config", then menuconfig === aimaz [n=swp1@i-83-67-17-205.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:13] bob2, Ahh === iandexter [n=iandexte@203.131.67.205] has joined #ubuntu [02:14] bob2, I do know better, I came from slackware, and built a number of kernels ;) [02:14] Is Gnome considered a Window Manager? Or are things like fluxbox run on top of gnome? [02:14] Nomad_1, Desktop [02:14] hey, i'm on an hp laptop omnibook 6000, and i was wondering how to shut off touchpad-tapping (to click) [02:14] Nomad_1, gnome is a DE, metacity is the window manager [02:15] Nomad_1, GNOME does have its own window manager, although you can replace it with flux box.. === da_bon_bon [n=rohan@unaffiliated/dabonbon/x-000000001] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:15] apokryphos: the kopete on there is the same one that i had in my repos already [02:15] kataklsym: hm, kdenetwork 3.5 beta 1 must not be packaged yet then [02:15] cant go into aim chat rooms with kopete :( === ionrock [n=ionrock@pool-141-158-210-23.alt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === Ankara38pas_resi [n=dent_doc@210.213.217.125] has joined #ubuntu [02:15] Cool bagawk and chavo, thanks === opo [n=opo@pcp0010524545pcs.ivylnd01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === opo [n=opo@pcp0010524545pcs.ivylnd01.pa.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] === Ankara38pas_resi [n=dent_doc@210.213.217.125] has left #ubuntu [] === |maddox| [n=dox@a212-113-184-53.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu [02:16] |maddox|: not _THE_ maddox, right? maddox.xmission.net? [02:17] Hi. I've been trying to install Ubuntu but the final part of the install where the debs are unpacked fails every time at different points. [02:17] Another random question.... anyone here read CPU magezine? [02:17] well if its kde beta u know they arent gonna package it with a beta version of ubuntu /kubuntu [02:17] lnical, What medium are you installing from? [02:17] Nomad: I've seen it before, but haven't really read it, which basically equates to a useless answer :) [02:18] hey, does anyone know how to shut off touchpad clicking by tapping it? [02:18] lnical: did you download and burn it? or get it from ubuntu.com? === robotgeek [n=robotgee@adsl-70-250-184-230.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === IcemanV9 [n=nobody@adsl-68-20-8-213.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu ["TTFN"] [02:18] I've installed from the pressed Hoary CDs, a netboot CD and a burnt Breezy RC cd. [02:19] The pressed live CD works fine. [02:19] lnical it happens on all of those? [02:19] I think it is the IDE Controller. [02:19] Yes, every one. [02:19] knical: bad ide ribbon? [02:19] lnical, that suggests something's wrong with your hardware..... and I wouldn't know the first place to look for trouble like that. === GhostFreeman [n=ghostfre@67.132.246.104] has joined #ubuntu [02:20] might be worth giving your ram a hammer with memtest86 [02:20] just t rule it out [02:20] Unless you have an old linux install that isn't completely removed when you try to install Ubuntu and thus conflicts with the package installations. [02:20] I have a SIS 735 Chipset motherboard. It uses the sis5513 driver. I've read some where it has UDMA privkens, === Toma- [n=lin4me@203-59-116-232.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:20] Nomad_1: ubuntu creates a new filesystem before installing [02:20] UDMA problems. [02:20] I'm not even sure how yo ucould avoid doing that [02:20] well, I am, but it's not somehting youd do by accident [02:21] bob2, Thanks .... didn't know that :). === test34 [n=test34@adsl-214-124-73.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu === CE-BADUNG [n=C@202.95.133.6] has joined #ubuntu [02:21] I always delete existing partitions. I have used multiple HDDs and multiple CD rom drives and different IDE cables. [02:21] anyone in here ever watch any of the revision3.com stuff? === CE-BADUNG [n=C@202.95.133.6] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:22] lnical they are all putting same output error? [02:22] This machine has had a Redhat 9 install on it a couple of years ago. [02:22] kataklsym: offtopic banter is welcome in #ubuntu-offtopic === laszlok [n=laszlo@134.117.187.134] has joined #ubuntu [02:22] Same error, different locations. [02:22] server install also fails. [02:22] lnical: has anything else installed on it successfully lately? === brownie17 [n=fraser@static-203-87-6-82.vic.chariot.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === tashiro [n=stephan@p213.54.215.34.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #ubuntu === C0_horny [n=C@202.95.133.6] has joined #ubuntu === C0_horny [n=C@202.95.133.6] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:23] Honestly, no. I haven't tried anything else in a while. The Live CD works fine on it though. [02:23] does anybody know if there is a netpune plugin for linux? [02:24] lnical: ubuntu going on same hd as redhat? === dreumah [n=dreumah@spc1-derb1-3-0-cust218.bagu.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu === ghostdog [n=ghostdog@203.177.237.228] has joined #ubuntu [02:24] lnical: the live cd isn't going to be hitting the hard disk, tho [02:24] brownie17: what would that do? === Dr_Fate [n=Une-ga-d@253.94.118.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:24] No, brand new hard drive in it now. The redhat installation was removed. [02:24] bob2, so i can use activex controls in mozilla [02:25] haha [02:25] no [02:25] bob2, why the laugh? [02:25] bob2: I think I did a userLinux netinstall a while ago. It went fine. === laszlok [n=laszlo@134.117.187.134] has left #ubuntu ["Konversation] [02:26] lnical: if the live cd works than your cd player is fine it sounds like maybe a bad spot or misconfigured hd === zlackt [n=jontiz@c-2eefe253.15-3-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [02:26] bob2, what's funny? i don't get it! [02:26] brownie activex are microsoft [02:26] brownie17: activeX doesnt work with linux [02:26] brownie17: I hope mozilla never gets the ability to run random untrusted code on my system === zlackt [n=jontiz@c-2eefe253.15-3-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === harrison [n=harrison@ip68-11-240-218.br.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu === Kyral [n=Linux@x1-6-00-11-2f-ed-2b-39.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu [02:27] bob2: Yes, the LiveCD wouldn't access the hard drive normally. I have the LiveCD in now and the HDD mounted up. === taseal [n=taseal@69-172-135-92.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === BebeK [n=dent_doc@210.213.217.125] has joined #ubuntu [02:27] lnical: right, but not nearly as much as installing would. could you try running bonnie++ agaoinst the hard disk from the live cd? [02:27] bob2, haha, i guess you're right. i wanted it because pcpitstop told me i needed it to test my comp, and if i don't test my comp my account will expire [02:27] selam === RJ_Not_ajay [n=rjmarsan@c-67-162-70-40.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:28] bob2: I looked in var/log/messages and didn't see anything unusual. === BebeK [n=dent_doc@210.213.217.125] has left #ubuntu [] [02:28] brownie17: have to try IE in wine or something === R` [n=NetWorKs@201.14.163.120] has joined #ubuntu === Ninjew [n=ceaser@138.28.153.100] has joined #ubuntu [02:28] lnical: how about in "dmesg"? [02:28] bob2: Nothing stands out. [02:29] why when ubuntu install a new kernel it removes the OS you manually added to grub ? is that a bug in breezy ? [02:29] does breezy install "xfs", the X font server, by default? [02:29] dooglus: no === dradul [n=Ilaniel@200.119.55.63] has joined #ubuntu [02:29] lnical: I'd try bonnie++ then [02:29] crimsun: I can't get gdm to run without xfs any more. do you know how to? [02:29] test34: no, you didn't read the documentation in menu.lst properly [02:29] any1 have trouble with the acx100 driver on 5.10? [02:29] dooglus: gdm runs fine without it [02:29] bob2, nah not worth it, IE=crap. although apparently IE loads images %30 faster!! [02:30] lnical: what type of harddrive is it? [02:30] bob2: Where is bonnie++ located? [02:30] dooglus: font path problem? Try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [02:30] test34: it will overwrite much of the file; if you want something in there manually, you need to add it to the right section [02:30] crimsun: ok. [02:30] bob2, I added it with the System - Administration - Boot GUI tool.. [02:31] boxerboy29: The current drive is a brand new 200GB Samsung, the bios and linux recognize it correctly as 200 GB. I had an older 30 GB Maxtor in it before === StrikeForce [n=marc@203-59-202-13.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === icelord [i=enforcer@200.175.37.194.dialup.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [02:31] test34: maybe it's broken then [02:31] lnical: you'll need to install it === ScislaC [n=scislac@ip70-190-208-208.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:32] hi what do i install to beable to watch dvds? [02:32] !tell brownie17 about dma === knapp [n=knapp@67.132.247.251] has joined #ubuntu === DR^^CENK [n=expediti@210.213.217.125] has joined #ubuntu === MikkelK [n=mikkelk@cpe.atm0-0-0-126199.0x3ef3eb45.bynxx2.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu === DR^^CENK [n=expediti@210.213.217.125] has left #ubuntu [] [02:33] mplayer allows you to watch dvds no? [02:33] Yup, but without menu support. [02:34] any1 use a acx100 wireless card in ubuntu 5.10? === teddy_ [n=teddy@lns-bzn-9-nan-82-251-14-117.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu ["--out"] [02:34] salu [02:34] bob2: Package is installed. I've not used it before. How do I use it? [02:34] dreumah: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats [02:34] im sure if he looks through synaptic he can fine like 30 of them [02:35] mplayer is the one that popuped up [02:35] poped up [02:35] i tried the wiki, but i didnt get any smarter from that [02:35] Hey, does anybody use opera 8.5 on a 64bit install? [02:36] crimsun: wow, that was a lot of questions... [02:36] ninjew: not sure if this is same on 64 and 32 but i understand that opera 8.5 doesnt do well on breezy [02:37] boxerboy29: I've got Opera up and running and it works great, except I was wondering if anyone had any success in making it use antialiased fonts [02:37] through fontconfig or whatever === tashiro [n=stephan@p213.54.215.34.tisdip.tiscali.de] has left #ubuntu ["Verlassend"] [02:39] mplayer is also not getting me anywhere === guest_ [n=guest@202.84.100.17] has joined #ubuntu [02:39] ninjew than im nto sure i have to get a patched version of 8.5 and i havent installed it yet [02:40] boxerboy29: I was simply able to download the statically linked .deb, and dpkg --force-architecture -i the debfile [02:40] worked perfectly === alec_ [n=alec@adsl-68-124-16-228.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:40] i mean, minus fonts looking sorta assy [02:40] dreumah, very easy way: sudo apt-get install vlc [02:40] gdm does not start anymore after recompiling kernel modules. error: libwrap.so.0 not found. [02:40] xappe i ll try [02:40] Does anybody know if there is a 2d or 3d .gif animator??? [02:40] dreumah: add the marillat repo [02:40] i downloaded it and it kept telling me there was a broken package on systema nd later found out it was opera [02:40] lnical: --help [02:40] dreumah: that is the videolan player [02:40] locomorto how? [02:40] dreumah: sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2 [02:40] lnical: I don't have it installed atm [02:41] dreumah: remove marillate repo [02:41] actually hold on, i'll make it easier for you === cafuego_ whines about gimp some more [02:41] 2 secs [02:41] locomorto ?huh === alec_ is now known as gt500 === todd_ [n=todd@gateway.ocls.info] has joined #ubuntu === moparfan90 [n=moparfan@ool-457a66fa.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:41] I may stick with using opera though, nasty fonts and all [02:41] I love that browser so much === Chambers_ [n=Thom@pcp02906040pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === gt500 is now known as gt500k [02:41] how di use wine here in ubuntu? === euReneoa [n=ffedpeu@d80-170-1-237.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu === euReneoa [n=ffedpeu@d80-170-1-237.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu [] [02:42] same as you use it on any other *nix [02:42] install it [02:42] run it [02:42] ghostdog, i386 or amd64? [02:42] remember how bad it is [02:42] Does anybody know if there is a 2d or 3d .gif animator??? === karen [n=karen@adsl-68-255-36-163.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:42] then find a ntive tool to replace it [02:42] hello. i know this is off topic but does anyone know a very good free web host? [02:42] www.freewebs.com [02:42] comedy geocities option [02:42] i have a d-link dwl-650+, it works under hoary but not breezy, any ideas? === eeqioAubo [n=ffedpeu@d80-170-1-237.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu [02:42] RJ_Not_ajay: it doesn't work on breezy when you follow the sae steps you used on hoary? [02:43] locomorto do i add it and if how? or do i remove it [02:43] ? === Lous [n=Linux@206.Red-83-55-247.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu === ilpavox [n=fartman@cpe-24-193-91-187.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:43] www.freewebs.com [02:43] bob2: yup [02:43] bob2: running on the drive now. === eeqioAubo is now known as uruis [02:43] Does anybody know if there is a 2d or 3d .gif animator??? === uruis [n=ffedpeu@d80-170-1-237.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu [] [02:43] no i mean a free web host with at least 500mb space and at least 5 gb's bandwidth [02:43] dreumah: just hold on [02:43] not like freewebs they stick+ [02:43] ubuntu had no problem with the rf switch on my laptop. does anyone know what driver it installs with the default installation? [02:43] hi--- i'm having printing problems. printer has a red exclamation on it. Don't know what that exactly means and how to correct it. wont print at all. has applications waiting to print and can't cancel them either. === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax6-242.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:43] Ninjew :I386 === toolbox [n=user@m010f36d0.tmodns.net] has joined #ubuntu === _n00blar_ [n=_n00blar@adsl-067-034-107-207.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:43] gt500k: you don't need to repeat [02:44] in the Smeg menu editor how do i set a program to run as root and prompt for a pass and automatically run that program after the pass is entered? [02:44] ghostdog, oh then you should be able to add the wine repository and add it === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax6-242.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:44] ghostdog, go to winehq.org [02:44] NO [02:44] moparfan: i have freewebs and its 100mb bandwidth a month and 46mb of space === Gago [n=gago@201.255.191.151] has joined #ubuntu === Gago [n=gago@201.255.191.151] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [02:44] like if i want to run mozilla-thunderbird as root how do i set that up in smeg menu editor? [02:44] that would be stupid [02:44] you don't want to do that [02:44] don't do that [02:45] boxerboy29, thats nothing. thats bad very bad i had a host that gave 4gb space and 15gb bandwidth [02:45] bob2: if i recall correctly, you are running vmware in breezy, right ? [02:45] esac_: yes [02:45] and alot of scripts [02:45] moparfan: with freewebs? [02:45] bob2: whenever i try to go into snapshot manager, vmware dies. do you experience this same problem ? [02:45] no!! [02:45] bob2 why would it be so stupid bob2? whats any different than running anything else as root? [02:45] oh ok [02:45] kataklsym: running most things as root is also stupid [02:45] kataklsym: especially enormous gui applications [02:45] xms im gonna try next [02:45] kataklsym: what possible reason do you have for trying? [02:46] esac_: is it oopsing your kernel? === Toba|BSD [i=eastein@GIMLI.RES.WPI.NET] has left #ubuntu [] === dradul [n=Ilaniel@200.119.55.63] has left #ubuntu [] [02:46] bob2: nope, haven't had that issue since i installed using any2any [02:46] bob2: because i users on my setup cant load and use the extensions for webmail, but root can. [02:46] <_n00blar_> Hi all, quick question...anyone has ever tried to setup a vpn connection to a pix firewall using L2TP and ipsec? [02:46] kataklsym: then fix it, duh === Octane [n=octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:46] esac_: ah, dunno then, sorry [02:46] bob2: bonnie++ has run. A bunch of performance stats but no errors. === Tribune [n=Tribune@219.93.48.113] has joined #ubuntu [02:46] crimsun: I tried that reconfigure of xserver-xorg, answered all its questions, but it's still failing to start X. it can't find default font 'fixed'. [02:46] kataklsym: root shouldn't be seen as a solution [02:47] bob2 : snapshot manager works just fine for you then i take it ? [02:47] i dont see what is so stupid running it as root, im behind 2 firewalls that isnt forwarded.. and i dont think mozilla thunderbird is gonna screw my system up.. [02:47] Does anybody know if there is a 2d or 3d .gif animator??? [02:47] kataklsym: that almost certainly means that you installed the extensions wrong [02:47] kataklsym: why do you want to run as root ? [02:47] gt500k: stop it [02:47] gt500k: install blender and leave us along [02:47] it works as root, dont as my user [02:47] hi........... i need help. i'm using kubuntu which is now fully updated. [02:47] kataklsym: because running anything as root that you don't have to is stupid [02:47] kataklsym: maybe google for root and gui. Why do you think ubuntu has it disabled? [02:48] kataklsym: running thunderbird as root means means if an email exploits a whole in it, it can format your hard disk [02:48] Tribune: you need to ak a question if you need help... [02:48] bob2: yea i guess if u say its stupid it is, whats the diff in running synaptic and mozilla thunderbird ? [02:48] at present my window 2000 professional facing problem and i need to reformat my windows. i did do last time this and my grub loader not function === jdna0615 [n=jdna0615@200.87.18.45] has joined #ubuntu [02:48] kataklsym: the application is *made* to be run as root [02:48] kataklsym: synaptic is designed to run as root === DewDude [n=dewdude@pool-71-114-86-76.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:48] 2.6.12-9 kernel is out [02:48] if i format my window............. how can i maintain my grub loader [02:48] kataklsym: it's a rule *never* run as root for more than absolutely necessary [02:48] kataklsym: whereas if you run thunderbird as your own user, all it can do it delete all your files. the OS itself will be safe. [02:48] i think this month i changed distros about 7 times and just came right back to ubuntu after getting so pissed off with stupit .rpm files and all there stupit crap [02:49] Ninjew :i added the repositories ang and all that need to be added i used the synaptic ,but i just dont know how to run it [02:49] dont upgrade yet though since the modules package is not updated [02:49] anyone recommend a fun OSS game? === angel [n=guest@222.126.41.10] has joined #ubuntu [02:49] kataklsym: I'm not sure how it is in gnome, but in kde you can bork up your configuration files, ruin dcop sockets, and have increased vulnerability as root in GUI === vaticano [n=vaticano@200.57.50.91] has joined #ubuntu [02:49] hi [02:49] hi angel [02:49] ritalin: nethack, bzflag, supertux, tuxracer, frozen-bubble, gnocatan. === hosler [n=h0sl3r@cpe-68-206-129-175.jam.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:49] care to chat [02:49] is there any program which can detect where i am at (work/home/starbucks) possibly based off some information (domain name, what dhcp ip address i am currently using, etc..) and automatically change all of my network settings for me (use wireless or eth0, use wins or not, automatically mount and unmount samba shares, etc...) ? [02:49] im not running X as root [02:49] are you a grrrrl? [02:49] ritalin: DROD === hosler [n=h0sl3r@cpe-68-206-129-175.jam.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:49] hi toolbox? [02:49] Tribune: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows === limer [n=limer@ip68-100-255-89.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:49] well ok then lets do it the hard way === kicolobo [n=kicolobo@201008099016.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [02:49] toolbox: needs to be kb'd === [RIYANNAH] [n=[RIYANNA@203.177.228.100] has joined #ubuntu === Deep6 [n=DEEP6@208.38.35.162] has joined #ubuntu [02:50] esac_: laptop-net does things like that [02:50] <_n00blar_> esac_, I don't know if Ubuntu has that feature, but I know Suse and Linspire do [02:50] evening [02:50] what can i do thats pretty easy that will give my user write permissions in the mozilla thunderbird extensions ? === pestilence [n=pestilen@12-208-7-44.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:50] dreumah: cd ~ [02:50] bob2: ill give it a try, thanks [02:50] kataklsym: it's not hard; look at the permissions in /usr/lib/mozilla and figure out what's wrong [02:50] Hi, I'm using ubuntu (Breezy Badger) and I whould like to install the totem codecs. How can I do this? [02:50] toolbox, are you like 10 or something [02:50] kataklsym: I never said you were, of course [02:50] kataklsym: no, your users do not need write permissions [02:50] seriously === skull [n=skull@246stb15.codetel.net.do] has joined #ubuntu === Pasternak [n=spinach@dsl092-185-225.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:50] toolbox, ohh a girl oohh yay a girl .... wow [02:50] kicolobo: install w32codecs [02:50] dreumah: join #locomorto [02:50] how can I do this? [02:50] bob2: well it already has X perms [02:50] dreumah: The channel that is [02:51] what else would it need === myNegReal [n=myNegRea@ool-44c456ba.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:51] kataklsym: read? [02:51] im pretty sure mozilla-thunderbird installs with read perms now doesnt it? === knapp [n=knapp@67.132.247.251] has joined #ubuntu [02:51] kicolobo: check your PM from ubotu [02:51] or does that go back to its designed to run as root? [02:51] oh, stop being silly [02:51] kicolobo: let me know if you have problems with any part of that [02:52] bob2: Thanks for your advice. I'll try to work some more on this install later. [02:52] it's not listed on synaptic. Where can I download this? [02:52] if you're going to pretend to be an admin, you need to lose the attitude === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:52] kataklsym: run "find /usr/lib/thunderbird -exec ls -ld \{\} \;" and put it up somewhere [02:52] bob2: was I talking to you about voice recognition? [02:52] or was that someone else? [02:53] kicolobo: as I said, check your message from ubotu [02:53] or just... [02:53] bob2 i did try to open website add u give.... i get message " This document cannot be displayed unless you install the Personal Securoty Manager (PSM). Download and isntall PSM and try again. [02:53] !w32codecs [02:53] w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs or breezy: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl. 64bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 [02:53] poningru: yeah [02:53] Tribune: ok [02:53] for partition options, do i need to make seperate main, boot swap etc and format them in another program or can i do that in the install using fdisk or something [02:53] myNegReal: you can do it during the install [02:53] myNegReal: the installer lets you do all that [02:54] ok cool [02:54] thanks [02:54] bob2... it ok... i can open now using konquerour === mjr_ [i=mjr@aulis.sange.fi] has joined #ubuntu [02:54] bob2: ->#ubuntu-offtopic [02:55] any idea why my wireless card works under hoary, but not breezy, even if i have done nothing differently? [02:55] <_n00blar_> Anyone here has gotten gmail-notifyer to work? I keep getting that login failure...even as I've downloaded the lastet source. [02:55] i installed laptop-net but i cant find a menu option for it. is it old skool text editing or something ? === digitize [n=digitize@resnet-241-170.resnet.UMBC.EDU] has joined #ubuntu [02:55] esac_: yes === CaptainMorgan [n=CaptainM@fox56-122.uml.edu] has joined #ubuntu [02:56] bob2: has anybody else reported issues where they run "sudo command" where command can be anything, and it just hangs? i keep getting that intermittently === zxsykco [n=zxsykco@adsl-68-75-52-211.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:56] can any1 akgnowlage that i said something? [02:57] I solved the gdm/xfs problem. would you believe x.org was using xorg.conf from the home directory in preference to /etc/X11/xorg.conf!!! [02:57] theres 425 people in this room, has 1 of them had the same problem as me? [02:57] dooglus: that is documented... [02:57] RJ_Not_ajay: sorry didnt hear you, must be your wireless card not working :) [02:57] bob2: put it up somewhere? [02:57] RJ_Not_ajay: it's really better not to be annoying [02:57] RJ_Not_ajay: if something stopped working, please file a bug [02:57] bob2: ok. I don't remember even making an xorg.conf in my home directory [02:57] dooglus, that's xorg's default behaviour [02:57] well, it works under windows, hoary, but not breezy [02:58] you probably copied it there to back it up [02:58] bob2: i cant figure out why my extension to my webmail isnt starting with my user, but it starts as root [02:58] RJ_Not_ajay: bugzilla.ubuntu.com [02:58] how do i write the output of a command to a file? === Chambers- [n=Thom@pcp02906040pcs.roylok01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:58] I've done the same thing [02:58] kataklsym: ... [02:58] RJ_Not_ajay: dude breezy is not supposed to be out yet [02:58] bob2: it loads it, but it doesnt use it [02:58] kataklsym: I belive I told you what to do [02:58] that means you will not get perfect working conditions [02:58] u said put it up somewhere [02:58] harrison: blah > filename.txt [02:58] harrison, command > filename [02:58] put it up somewhere as in what the heck do u mean by that === nba [n=nba@pppN1L1.evis.net.ph] has joined #ubuntu [02:58] nevermind [02:58] RJ_Not_ajay: what you should do is file a bug in bugzilla.ubuntu.org [02:59] thanks [02:59] I thought it was pretty clear I meant for you to make it available for other people to see [02:59] bob2, well i have this long output of crap when i try to compile something, and it only gives me the last few lines [02:59] <_n00blar_> How do I go about installing TT fonts? Is there an installer? [02:59] harrison: compile errors do not get output like that [02:59] ahh [02:59] _n00blar_: you already have lots of TT fonts installed [02:59] _n00blar_: drage them to ~/.fonts if you want more [03:00] _n00blar_, put them in ~/.fonts if you're the only user [03:00] harrison: foo 2>&1 blah.txt [03:00] <_n00blar_> bob2, just wanted arial [03:00] <_n00blar_> chavo, oh, cool [03:00] is it ok to file anjuta bugs in ubuntu bugzilla, or is there a place more appropriate for them ? === zUivipeio [n=siobea@d83-177-197-57.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu [03:00] bob2: i can run mozilla, and i can check normal mail, the extension loads in mozilla, the properties of the extension says status: failed, and doesnt give the type of error... === zUivipeio [n=siobea@d83-177-197-57.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu [] [03:01] which key stroke to log off system? thanks [03:01] newbies_ubuntu: logout === zxsykco [n=zxsykco@adsl-68-75-52-211.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:01] kataklsym: holy god [03:01] kataklsym: stop talking and do what I said [03:01] holy god my ass [03:01] everything in that dir has r perms [03:01] esac_: launchpad.net [03:01] d [03:01] kataklsym: be quiet and do it [03:01] i did it god damn [03:01] kataklsym: ... [03:02] kataklsym: and the url is? [03:02] the url to what? [03:02] that didnt return a damn url === laszlok [n=laszlo@134.117.187.134] has joined #ubuntu [03:02] hrmm...ubuntu installed new linux-powerpc....should i reboot? === Lars_G [n=lars@unaffiliated/lars-g/x-000001] has joined #ubuntu [03:02] kataklsym: so, shut up [03:02] Hey all. [03:02] kataklsym: run the command I said [03:02] kataklsym: and put the output on the web [03:02] it returned a list of all the directories and their perms [03:02] put it on the web for what? === oeKoxeYQ [n=rfaoueaj@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu [03:03] apokryphos: Still around? if I ask you directly It would be leeching? === oeKoxeYQ [n=rfaoueaj@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] [03:03] you make about as much sense as asking my dog for help [03:03] i dont think putting it on the web is going to solve it [03:03] kataklsym: So he can check them. [03:03] Lars_G: fire away [03:03] how do you know that your SCSI-tape drive is working ? === PSfXudUaeI [n=rfaoueaj@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu === PSfXudUaeI [n=rfaoueaj@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] [03:03] well if he would have said that it might have helped [03:04] kataklsym: please don't be silly [03:04] but instead he said what url did it give [03:04] and then he said to shut up [03:04] ls giving a url [03:04] yea [03:04] I told you 4 times === BROKEN_LADDER [n=bal@adsl-69-227-57-228.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:04] don't worry, I won't waste any more time trying to help you [03:04] bob2: i can tell what perms it has [03:04] everything has R [03:04] since my computer has two ethernet jacks, is there any relatively simple way to sort of use it as a router so that i can plug my voip phone into the back to configure it? [03:04] apokryphos: This is not really ubuntu related but since it must be a common question, I used make-jpkg to build java package, installs well, and the plugin in firefox is created as a link to alternatives which is of course a link to the actual plugin... opera sees the plugin, and konqueror can use java if I specify the VM's location as always, but firefox refuses to see the plugin, any clues? === oDwoo [n=azevotf@g89-6.citenet.net] has joined #ubuntu === oDwoo [n=azevotf@g89-6.citenet.net] has left #ubuntu [] === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu === laszlok [n=laszlo@134.117.187.134] has joined #ubuntu === Dr_Fate [n=Une-ga-d@253.94.118.70.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === orQoUWeX [n=ewzpgnez@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu [03:05] Lars_G: why didn't you install the java packs? === orQoUWeX [n=ewzpgnez@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] === ouUoo [n=rfaoueaj@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu [03:05] apokryphos: Which ones? [03:05] but anway.. === ouUoo is now known as NBpiDBxuki === orQoUWeX [n=ewzpgnez@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu === Dethread [n=Dethread@24-205-238-53.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:05] ubotu: tell Lars_G about sunjava [03:05] those === NBpiDBxuki [n=rfaoueaj@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] [03:05] apokryphos: I use sun java (I develope on java), didn't find any sun packs in universe, or multivere... did I miss it? [03:05] Thanks === orQoUWeX [n=ewzpgnez@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] [03:06] BROKEN_LADDER, 2 jacks? then you should have 2 ethernet cards detected === NBpiDBxuki [n=rfaoueaj@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu === Koaii [n=itevqoic@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu === Koaii [n=itevqoic@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] === NBpiDBxuki [n=rfaoueaj@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] [03:06] Thank you apokryphos [03:06] Lars_G: the plugin's in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins ? [03:06] np === DqogIi [n=rfaoueaj@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu === DqogIi [n=rfaoueaj@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] === Hqfdoiru [n=azevotf@g89-6.citenet.net] has joined #ubuntu === mode/#ubuntu [+r] by apokryphos [03:07] anyone know what driver ubuntu uses by default for the radio frequency switch on wireless cards? === Hqfdoiru [n=azevotf@g89-6.citenet.net] has left #ubuntu [] [03:08] apokryphos: Yup [03:08] Need help install ubuntu given drivers for ati [03:08] apokryphos: Linked as it should be (not copied) [03:08] I am following this howto: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=348911 [03:08] the top part [03:08] bob2: ok i pasted it to pastebin.com here: http://pastebin.com/371596 [03:08] Lars_G: hm [03:08] ilpavox: If you have native drivers, use iwconfig to change the channel. [03:08] now without being an ass about it can u check and see why it is doing what its doing? === mode/#ubuntu [+b kataklsym!*@*] by apokryphos [03:09] apokryphos: Yep it's strange., well I'll try that repository first. [03:09] apokryphos: No prob. I am onto it [03:09] Anyone? [03:10] kataklsym, you expect someone to help after speaking to them like that ? [03:10] LinuxJones: gone [03:10] please help me to config my tape-drive.... [03:10] LinuxJones: I think he does. [03:11] hey does anyone here have hoary? And is brave enough to run a untested script to install libdvdcss2? [03:11] lars_g: i need to know because i am trying to put debian on a laptop alongside ubunut. debian won't turn the rf switch on whie ubuntu has no problem [03:12] locomorto: hoary already includes a script for that [03:12] Really? [03:12] knapp: ignore the forums, wiki.ubunu.com/BinaryDriverHowto [03:12] ilpavox: That escapes me, sorry. [03:12] ilpavox: it's hardware- and driver-specific [03:12] ilpavox: it would be because ubuntu's kernel has support for it [03:13] bob2: where is this script? I must have missed it (and god only knows i do that alot) [03:13] bob2: Which means it can be compiled in debian's kernel. === j-linux [n=j-linux@fl-71-0-157-160.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:13] locomorto: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/ [03:13] apokryphos: I think I'll skip over these packages, sorry [03:14] bob2: it works when i modconf ipw2200 but not when i modprobe it.. kernel support must be there if it works temrpoarily [03:14] Has anyone ever had problems sending to hotmail accounts from Evolution? There are a couple of addresses that when I try to send to them it says "mailbox unavailable" and doesn't send. [03:14] apokryphos: I'll try reducing the path from plugins to actual file to a single symlink and see [03:14] locomorto: Run the script as root, wait, install packages, done,. [03:14] cafuego_: it install libdvdcss2? [03:14] j-linux: that's not evolutions fault === daddius [n=daddius@cpe-24-193-64-169.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:14] locomorto: No, it builds libdvdcss2 packages [03:14] Lars_G: so java definitely works? Did you follow the instructions on the wiki? [03:14] hey does ubuntu have support for sata hard drives? [03:14] cafuego_: ic [03:14] bob2 I think thats the wrong link === Toba [n=eastein@TOBA.RES.WPI.NET] has left #ubuntu ["/part] [03:14] daddius: yes === din [n=din@24.144.40.40] has joined #ubuntu [03:14] HrdwrBob: yeah... I don't blame Evolution. I would assume MS if anything but it doesn't even send the messgae. I can't figure it out. [03:15] locomorto: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread or so [03:15] cafuego_, which version should i get to try this out? [03:15] Lars_G: sure [03:15] what file should I edit to give my box a static ip? [03:15] daddius: Up to you. [03:15] ilpavox: that is very surprising [03:15] ilpavox: I don't know what's up with that then === jbwise [n=jwise@24-247-58-233.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:15] daddius: 5.04 if you're new to linux. [03:15] limer: /etc/network/interfaces [03:15] It is only some hotmail accounts. And I can send to them from the web-based email. [03:15] j-linux: that's an error from the server you are using to send mail [03:15] bob2: thx [03:15] j-linux: contact your service provider [03:15] knapp: how so? [03:16] crap [03:16] cafuego_ i had some version of ubuntu and it locked up during installation... So i gave debian a try and debian install couldn't see sata drive [03:16] good evening... i'm trying in vain to get DVD support in breezy. i got libdvdcss2 installed, but i'm still getting an error about gstreamer not being able to handle dvd:// [03:16] apokryphos: I don't know where the instructions where, but I used java-package to create the .deb I used, and yes it works.... and firefox sees it now. [03:16] but ubuntu locked up on me [03:16] i will redownload and see if i get the same problem [03:16] apokryphos: It seems it breaks even if there is the middle stepping stone of /etc/alternatives. [03:16] apokryphos: It needs to be a symlink directly to the plugin file or it'll fail, or so it seems [03:16] HrdwrBoB: from my hosting company, that hosts my sites? (my email domains and servers) === newbies_ubuntu [n=rick@c-24-2-39-39.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:17] j-linux: whatever your outbound SMTP is set to [03:17] apokryphos: Thanks for the hand [03:17] HrdwrBoB: I hate that company.... arrrggg. [03:17] haha [03:17] Lars_G: wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions <-- those ones [03:17] 1and1 [03:17] .com [03:17] j-linux: your outbound SMTP should be set to your ISP though === jsgotangco [n=jsg@202.57.71.235] has joined #ubuntu [03:17] Lars_G: you know, if you're a kde aficionado you should join us in #kubuntu =) [03:17] bob2 it was https:// that lead to http://someportalsite [03:18] bob2, so i should "make blah.ko 2>&1 blah.txt" to write all of the output to a file? not working for me. [03:18] HrdwrBoB: my ISP? I have so many different locations where I use the Internet [03:18] HrdwrBoB: why not 1and1.com where my email servers are? === laszlok [n=laszlo@134.117.187.134] has joined #ubuntu [03:19] j-linux, many isp's dont allow you to use smtp servers besides their own. === JakeX [n=jakex3@d57-8-162.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:19] j-linux: it's up to you === n3t0 [n=wqerewqr@201-27-135-207.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [03:19] how i can install the wine.. [03:19] apokryphos: Sure. [03:19] harrison: I've tried that before. Somehow I thought that I got returned mail -- something like "does not allow relaying" or something [03:19] hey guys.. quick question, if i do an apt-get upgrade and one of the upgrades is mysql-server (which i have already running) will this update the bins? or overwrite everything? [03:19] dont have him im my repositoris === Lars_G [n=lars@unaffiliated/lars-g/x-000001] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:20] JakeX, im sure it wouldnt overwrite anything important [03:20] I use Internet at the house and at coffee shops with free wireless... It would be a hassle to change the SMTP on all 18 email accounts every time I move === hectorman [n=hector@HSE-Montreal-ppp133483.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [03:20] j-linux, webmail :( === Amaranth [i=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu [03:20] anyone set up libdvdcss2 and totem-gstreamer on breezy? [03:20] harrison: :( :( [03:21] would there be any relatively simple way that you could connect two devices by their ethernet connection, and have them operate together, say one was a web server and the other a computer with a web browser. without dhcp? [03:21] arg... [03:21] harrison: thanks.. :) can anyone confirm this? :P hehe just wanna be as sure as possible [03:21] BROKEN_LADDER: yes, give them static IPs [03:21] HrdwrBoB and then just connect them and bam? [03:21] j-linux: I set all output smtp to be localhost:2525 and have a couple of scripts that do a ssh port forwarding from localhost:2525 to smtp-server-of-the-day:25 [03:21] BROKEN_LADDER: OS X can do that with bonjour ;) [03:21] logging in to 18 email accounts will not work with web mail. That's why I use evolution [03:21] knapp: ubuntu.com, of course [03:21] JakeX, upgrades wont overwrite configuration data or anything like that. if it needs to apt will ask you before doing so [03:21] i have bonjour installed. [03:22] harrison: no, make 2>&1 >./blah.txt [03:22] ok thanks :) [03:22] i need to program my new sip adapter but i don't have a router. [03:22] ah thanks bob2 [03:22] dang..i'll hafta unpluginate. [03:22] can apt-get check for lost files? [03:22] some one can paste a sources.list complete with have the wine [03:22] n3t0: wine is in ubuntu... [03:22] Airk: debsums can [03:22] MarcN: that is an interesting idea. I'm not that advanced yet though. [03:22] i have an obfuscated sources.list you could use. [03:22] Airk: (it's well outside apt's area of responsibility) [03:23] bob2: that's not quite right. the 2>&1 should go after >./blah.txt [03:23] n3t0: why not just 'apt-get install wine' ? [03:23] n3t0: er, sudo that [03:23] Xenguy, he dont find the wine [03:23] harrison: make obj.ko > blah.txt 2>&1 === ilpavox [n=fartman@cpe-24-193-91-187.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [03:23] ahh cool [03:24] n3t0: running Hoary? [03:24] dooglus: hm, yeah, tho I never did understand why [03:24] n3t0: are you on i386? [03:24] j-linux: ssh -f -C -L 2525:smtp.myisp.com:25 me@home.myisp.com sleep 6000 [03:24] bob2, yes [03:24] n3t0: /msg ubotu repositories [03:24] ops [03:24] MarcN: is that something I type at the terminal just once? [03:25] n3t0: you could try 'sudo apt-setup' [03:25] hello and good evening (morning)... I'm trying to build a 2.6.12 kernel for Breezy including all the ubuntu patches plus Ingo Molnar's realtime-preempt. I've configures everything according to the kernel building guide in the ubuntu wiki, When going trhough the patching the process halts with an error. It seems that the realtime patch is not compatible with the ubuntu patches. Anyone could help me? I can provide mire details... [03:25] MarcN: actually I don't know if that will work for me because I don't have an ISP. No me@home.myisp.com [03:25] j-linux: I put that in a connect-smtp-home script. that tunnel stays up for 600 seconds (5min) === melfyk [n=matt@204-117-69-126-dsl.etv.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:26] sorry for the typos... [03:26] j-linux: if the smtp is 'local' to your network, just use me@localhost for the last part. [03:27] MarcN: I'm usually at a coffee shop with free wireless Internet. They are probably using bellsouth or comcast or something. [03:27] bob2, in a amd64 wine have problens? [03:28] MarcN: It sounds like a good idea but I'm not sure if I could set it up. For some reason I've never had a problem when in Windows with that (a lot of other problems though) -- this is a new problem only with Evolution [03:28] my friend use a amd64 [03:28] n3t0: it doesn't exist on amd64 [03:28] n3t0: wine is only available for i386 [03:28] thanks === alexandros [n=alexandr@63.245.118.115] has joined #ubuntu [03:30] bob2: excellent. thank you. I am wondering how my ext3 partition could get corrupt. [03:31] bob2: read from left to right on the command line, and read "2>&1" to be "put the errors where the output is going". then "make 2>&1 > file" means "put the errors to the screen and put output to file" [03:31] bob2: whereas "make > file 2>&1" means "put the output to a file and put the errors to the same place" [03:32] could someone please tell me why this is failing to compile? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2445 [03:32] dooglus: hm, I guess I assumed 2>&1 redirected it to stdout, and >blah redirected everything that was going to stdout to the file [03:32] bob2: > is a shorthand for 1> [03:32] harrison: read the top 4 lines, it told you the exact problem [03:33] bob2, but shouldnt that be there? i installed kernel-headers [03:33] dooglus: hm...the '&' "dereferences" it? [03:33] crossover office runs on a amd64? [03:33] harrison: you didn't install gcc-3.4 [03:33] n3t0: talk to them (unlikely) === nalioth [n=Apple@pdpc/supporter/bronze/nalioth] has joined #ubuntu [03:33] using debuild, does "continued value line not in field" normally refer to something specific? Been tinkering over there (on the given line) can't quite figure it out [03:33] bob2: I don't know of any nice way to explain why 2>&1 is written like that... [03:33] oh god. am i going to have to do some version pinning bob2? because i have 4.0.2 [03:33] apokryphos: context? [03:34] harrison: of course not; sudo aptitude install gcc-3.4 [03:34] harrison: the binary is called gcc-3.4, they do not conflict in any way [03:34] awesome [03:34] thanks [03:34] bob2: debuild -nc.. full line: dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: syntax error in control file debian/control at line 119: continued value line not in field === sPYder--- [n=user@203.177.182.68] has joined #ubuntu === sonojacker [n=sono@host-201-141-51-181.cablevision.net.mx] has joined #ubuntu === jmg [n=cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu [03:36] crimsun: Do you know about anyone succesfully patching Breezy kernel with preemption (Ingo Molnar's patches)? [03:36] sonojacker: not me [03:37] apokryphos: does 118 end in a backslash? [03:37] sonojacker: I don't know of anyone who has successfully applied them to Breezy's source === j-linux [n=j-linux@fl-71-0-157-160.dyn.sprint-hsd.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:37] sonojacker: there are quite a few hundred rejects === djm62 [n=djm62@82-40-136-135.cable.ubr08.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [03:38] bob2: nope; 118 is empty === nalioth [n=Apple@pdpc/supporter/bronze/nalioth] has joined #ubuntu [03:38] apokryphos: and 119? [03:39] bob2: contains purely text; " The maps available in current release include Africa, Asia, Austria," [03:39] (well, and punctuation, bleh) [03:40] crimsun: few hudnred rejects? I read about a brasilian team having achieved 32 bits hoary kernels with preemption. === Mostro [n=Transpor@69-163-219-252.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === Cidolfas [n=null@adsl-71-131-67-149.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === GhostFreeman [n=ghostfre@67.132.246.104] has joined #ubuntu [03:41] ne1 setup Ubuntu on a DELL PowerEdge Server with RAID 5....? === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial2-207.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:41] Guys [03:41] Can someone help me real quick with rhythmnbox? [03:42] Mostro: have a look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesServers [03:42] thx [03:42] bob2: nevermind, got it; didn't realise it mattered if 118 (the meant-to-be-blank) didn't have a gap (shoulda guessed... whole description probably does) [03:42] coulda sworn I tried that anyhow, but hey [03:42] apokryphos: ah, righ === kairu0 [n=steve@YahooBB219201195046.bbtec.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:43] any japanese keyboard users? i cant type any latin characters with my japanese keyboard (even on the login screen) [03:44] can someone read me? === N17R0 [n=w00t@unaffiliated/n17r0] has joined #ubuntu [03:44] sinned: what about rhythmbox? [03:44] hectorman, m e [03:44] thanks === jbwise [n=jwise@24-247-58-233.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:45] Hi what up with those weird characters shown in aterm when using for example the man pages ? === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:45] how to create a non-root user???? === mode/#ubuntu [-r] by apokryphos [03:46] sPYder---: sudo adduser USER [03:46] sPYder---: I think you are asking the wrong question [03:46] weird aterm characters: http://members.lycos.nl/opslag0004/snapshot8.png [03:46] sPYder---: what do you want to achieve === vader1102 [n=kevin@dsl-72-1-219.170.tel-ott.com] has joined #ubuntu === nba_ [n=nba@pppN2L11.evis.net.ph] has joined #ubuntu [03:46] a user that cant access root but can install programs like wine :D [03:46] I've gotta hand it to ya, Ubuntu is pretty slick [03:47] sPYder---: you should already have one [03:47] heh I forgot that I am using the mac right now and it wasn't letting me in lo === kairu0 [n=steve@YahooBB219201195046.bbtec.net] has left #ubuntu ["Konversation] [03:47] sPYder---: system->administration-> users and groups will allow you to add more === sonojacker [n=sono@host-201-141-51-181.cablevision.net.mx] has left #ubuntu [] [03:47] HrdwrBoB ... can u plz teach me what to input then? [03:48] anybody, sos pls [03:48] Wow [03:48] I'm talking to this kid [03:48] djm62, well yesterday after I installed the ati drivers for my video card....I tried to play a song with rhythmbox and for some reason I'm getting the error... "Could not open resource for writing" [03:48] who's my "friend" [03:48] there is but there are many inputs needed.. and i am not sure what to input [03:48] Who thinks Bill Gates is a mastermind and genius [03:48] sPYder---: so you want the user to not be root, but be able to use apt (package manager) -- consequently having to sudo [03:48] sorry but i am only 5days old === X3-away is now known as X3ndou [03:48] thanks to the sudo model that's actually possible :) [03:48] apokryphos yes === sonojacker [n=sono@host-201-141-51-181.cablevision.net.mx] has joined #ubuntu === mode/#ubuntu [+o tritium] by ChanServ [03:48] !users [03:48] HrdwrBoB: Did you get hit by a windmill? === AsemAbiz [n=support@203.128.85.27] has joined #ubuntu [03:49] hrm hangon [03:49] sPYder---: It needs editing of your sudoer file, though; see man sudoers === ghostdog [n=ghostdog@203.177.243.139] has joined #ubuntu === synd [n=synd@h228.20.55.139.ip.alltel.net] has left #Ubuntu [] [03:49] i just unpacked the synaptic package manager [03:49] sinned: that's not to do with video drivers [03:49] well === nael [n=nael@adsl-64-169-91-19.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:49] crimsun: I've been trying to build a Kernel for Breezy with realtime-preempt and I'm having problems with the patching. Would it be possible to change the ubuntu patches in order to make them compatible with Ingo's patch? [03:49] it seemed to happen after I installed my video drivers and cedega [03:49] how do i reconfigure my ubuntu? [03:49] but was not downloaded all the items === TraceGreen [n=Trace@221.218.30.157] has joined #ubuntu [03:50] hectorman: no. [03:50] ghostdog: to do what? [03:50] sinned: is something clogging up your soundcard? [03:50] ghostdog, which part? [03:50] um [03:50] hectorman: you cannot apply all of both [03:50] I don't think so... === quidam- [n=quidam@200.90.84.184] has joined #ubuntu [03:50] ghostdog: system -> preferences [03:50] can i run my music player now? [03:50] apokryphos how to edit then [03:50] some crashed app from cedega [03:50] I tried to kill esd [03:50] how do i reconfigure my ubuntu using dpkg command ? [03:50] it wasn't running at the time [03:50] hectorman: you will have to not apply some of Breezy's patches to apply all of preempt === quidam- [n=quidam@200.90.84.184] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] [03:50] ghostdog: dpkg-reconfigure [03:50] ghostdog: what do you want to do? [03:51] crimsun: would I be missing many of the functionalities of the Ubuntu kernel if I do it as you said? === nomasteryoda [n=nomaster@ip24-252-193-86.mc.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:51] hectorman: possibly === XTERM35 [n=xterm35@pcp0011532176pcs.monticello.in.ftwayne.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:51] sPYder---: I don't know off the top of my head (never used it, know it's possible); I can search around for a bit :) [03:51] i just installed a lan card and i dont know how to detect it ? [03:51] ghostdog: what do you mean detect it [03:52] djm62, any idea on what I should do? [03:52] ghostdog: odds are it's detected already [03:52] sPYder---: mind you, if you're giving them access to the package manager you (generally) might as well give them full sudo. It's not as if they can't break the system with apt :) [03:52] the new lan card that i installed in my computer [03:52] ghostdog, does "ifconfig" list eth0, for example? [03:52] sinned: erm, give me a second [03:52] k [03:52] hello bob2, crimsun [03:53] hey tritium === etherealnet06 [n=ethereal@203.215.70.52] has joined #ubuntu [03:53] ghostdog: it should be listed in your network configuration [03:53] ok [03:53] elo [03:53] ok ill look into it [03:53] tnx [03:53] im new in using ubuntu software [03:53] crimsun: so, would you say that Ubuntu is not a suitable distro for low-latency audio? It would be wonderful to have it combined with the amazing user friendliness of Ubuntu without missing any functionality. [03:53] can anyone pls help me [03:54] sinned: it was working before, and then it stopped working? [03:54] etherealnet06: ask [03:54] etherealnet06, please ask your question [03:54] hectorman: low latency audio can be used on any distribution [03:54] Yeah djm62 [03:54] sinned: and esd is running? [03:54] It might have been caused when I installed xine for totem though [03:54] :/ [03:54] Esd is not running when I try and start it [03:55] HrdwrBoB: using realtime-preempt? [03:55] ubuntu should have JACK by default [03:55] how do you run MU online/ rose online/ gunbound in ubuntu [03:55] sinned: does it happen on a variety of file formats? [03:55] etherealnet06: configure it [03:55] this are all online games [03:55] anybody, sos pls: just installed the synaptic package manager, tried playing my music player but there's an error msg "COUDN'T PARSE PLAYLIST" what shall i do next? [03:55] how [03:55] Yes djm62 === charlin_ [n=charlin@200.73.37.151] has joined #ubuntu [03:55] pls help [03:55] me [03:55] hectorman: yeah that's just a kernel thing [03:55] etherealnet06: or use one of the audio distributions [03:55] AGNULA [03:56] etherealnet06: i cant help you sorry [03:56] i havent set mine up either [03:56] this is realy my first time using ubuntu OS [03:56] HrdwrBoB: that kernel thing is what I'm trying to sort out... I already have agnula installed, but I would like to switch to ubuntu === [mark] [n=mark@211.24.144.182] has joined #ubuntu [03:56] Hmm djm62 ...I started esd manually and now it works [03:56] For some reason...its having problems starting esd [03:57] HrdwrBoB: and crimsun just said that is not possible to patch an ubuntu kernel with Ingo's realtime-preempt patch... I was just trying to have the best of both worlds === we0 [n=weo@p5499E5CA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:57] hectorman: that's quite likely [03:57] hectorman: to be honest if you want to do high end audio stuff [03:57] you're better off having a dedicated machine for it === sPYder--- [n=user@203.177.182.68] has joined #Ubuntu [03:58] sinned: does this happen from a clean boot? [03:58] Um [03:58] HrdwrBoB: you are right... I was just trying to give nice Ubuntu a try [03:58] Let me check lol [03:58] Brb [03:58] sinned: don't bother [03:58] lol [03:58] why? [03:58] is the username that i made while install ubuntu a root privileged??? [03:58] No [03:59] !root [03:59] I guess root is disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo === Arkainium [n=mark@pool-71-247-137-98.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:59] !root [03:59] spyder: no.. sudo su yourself.. [03:59] sinned: I think you might have had a stray process [03:59] sPYder---, the first user you configured gets sudo priveleges [03:59] Whats that mean? [03:59] lol [03:59] HrdwrBob and hectorman: I really think High End Audio production is not against the UI and user experience we are all trying to contribute at Ubuntu! (CC: crimsun) [03:59] not root [03:59] ? [03:59] from running cedega...not running properly, but not visible [03:59] whats the diff? [03:59] no, that user is a sudoer [03:59] not root, you just get sudo (right to use root account) :P [03:59] WOW! Ubuntu actually put my laptop to sleep. How do I wake it up now? :) === flodine [n=flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:00] sonojacker: high end audio requires all sorts of things that are contrary to an averae users requirements [04:00] Arkainium: open it [04:00] sPYder---, please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo [04:00] sinned: but taking up the sound card, and preventing esd from running [04:00] Arkainium: or press the sleep button again [04:00] h,, [04:00] Hmm [04:00] like better power supplies, HrdwrBoB ? [04:00] Okay [04:00] tritium ok ty [04:00] Thank you djm62 [04:00] sinned: are you au fait with the ps command? [04:00] ? [04:00] HrdwrBoB, it doesn't have a sleep button. I put it to sleep by changing /proc/acpi/sleep [04:00] Am I what? [04:00] Arkainium: haha [04:00] Arkainium: press the power button [04:01] HrdwrBoB, that shuts it down. :P [04:01] sinned: do you know how to use ps, you might be able to find a culprit === hablandocontigo [n=hablando@c-67-175-7-19.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:01] sort of [04:01] okay [04:01] HrdwrBob, hectorman, crimsun: You are partially right HrdwrBob, but specially if you think about MAC OS X audio production platforms, that do have great UI's (not as good as in Ubuntu's GNOME 2.12 :-) ), we can achieve both. [04:02] HrdwrBob: as you said... it is a kernel thingy... ok, lets research on that! if nobody tries, it won't happen. [04:02] HrdwrBoB, shouldn't simply pressing a key wake it? [04:02] sonojacker: there you go [04:02] sonojacker: I agree [04:02] HrdwrBoB: here we are going! [04:03] HrdwrBob, hectorman, crimsun: Let's say, there we go [04:03] Arkainium: generally you'll have to hit the wake up button === mode/#ubuntu [-o tritium] by tritium [04:03] HrdwrBoB: that's why we are looking for some help here... === nba__ [n=nba@pppN2L11.evis.net.ph] has joined #ubuntu === Entranced [n=Entrance@243.124.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === hablandocontigo [n=hablando@c-67-175-7-19.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:03] sorry dc [04:03] HrdwrBoB, so I guess I have to set one of my acpi events to wake it? [04:03] HrdwrBob, hectorman, crimsun: I will say I need to be more aware of what crimsun does, specially because I worked hard on some alsa - usb issues that he solved perfectly for Breezy. Congratulations btw. === ciddivegizli [n=serpil_l@85.136.2.241] has joined #ubuntu === nalioth [n=Apple@pdpc/supporter/bronze/nalioth] has joined #ubuntu [04:04] can somebody help me with my problem? [04:04] i just posted awhile ago before i was dc [04:04] thanks [04:05] sinned: I could be completely wrong and mad, but I seem to remember something similar happening to me (crummy mplayer) [04:05] nba_, if they know the answer, they will say so === sambagirl [n=anita@c-24-99-26-225.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:05] Hello [04:05] ic [04:05] lol [04:05] yeah [04:05] sonojacker: on the other hand, the nice thing about free software is that it's not too difficult or illegal to roll a specialised distro for the job, and keep a general distro on the side... [04:05] I had the same problem with totem [04:05] so nobody know the answer then [04:05] until I started using xine instead of gstreamer === Effect [n=neostar9@24.115.144.82.res-cmts.tv13.ptd.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:06] Evening === zblach [n=zblach@HSE-Toronto-ppp137711.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [04:06] how do you restore your workspaces? i cannot see mine anymore just the trash icon in the corner === bigbootay [n=bigboota@CPE0004e28a9289-CM000a73a14ed4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:07] HrdwrBob, hectorman, djm62: That's fine djm62, but I really appreciate Ubuntu's ideology, and I would suggest a metapackage such as edubuntu, that might apt-get the necessary stuff and might get rid of some other if needed - "audioubuntu"? [04:07] nba__: your question didn't make much sense to me... you've unpacked synaptic and you want to know if you can run a music player? [04:07] After upgrading my system (Breezy) few mins ago, gdm fails to load (new kernel is a suspect...) I had the same thing happen to me with Sid and I believe it is caused by udevd. Any one knows what may be the problem here ? After numerous dist-upgrades I've never had this issue with Breezy.. [04:07] sonojacker: that's a worthwhile project [04:07] sonojacker: you know the answer to that one... ;) === explore5 [n=explore5@203.115.164.230] has joined #ubuntu [04:08] djm62: sorry, i tried playing mp3 with the music player but error said "COULDN'T PARSE PLAYLIST" [04:08] HrdwrBob, hectorman, djm62: not much HordwrBob, providing we might for instance, first try to suggest a patched kernel... that would be an excelent first step. MOTU's already provide LOTS of software for Audio production at Breezy. [04:09] The live cd. Can you install from that after trying it out or do you have to go back and download the install cd if you want to continue to use the OS on the harddrive? [04:09] djm62: where's the problem lies [04:09] hi! === mode/#ubuntu [-o apokryphos] by apokryphos [04:09] Effect: the latter [04:09] nba__: on hoary? [04:09] Ah I see. Thanks. [04:09] djm62: yeah [04:10] nba__: has anything else unusual happened? [04:10] With the OS. Is it possible to still view and access Window OS drives and have access to the files or are those drives not visable? [04:10] nba__: any errors popping up apart from that? [04:10] sonojacker, HrdwrBob, djm62: basically the problem is compatibility of the ubuntu patches with Ingo's realtime-preempt patch... is this possible to sort out? [04:10] djm62: none [04:10] djm62: just that error msg [04:11] Effect: sure [04:11] nba__: and how are you trying to play the files? [04:11] hectorman: there is no way you can apply all of both === RJ_Not_ajay [n=rjmarsan@c-67-162-70-40.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:12] How to I create a new partition on my hardrive [04:12] crimsun: ok, I'll try to find out which ones are not compatible [04:12] so I can store my music on it [04:12] djm62: i open the music player and load playlist from there [04:13] djm62: load playlist from file i mean [04:13] nba__: where did the playlist come from? === Agamotto [n=agamotto@adsl-64-109-18-28.dsl.rcfril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:14] djm62: from my cd coz i just copied it there === Tonio0505 [n=Italiand@c-24-7-216-240.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:14] Thanks === ZeroA4 [n=Ask@201.12.186.2] has joined #ubuntu [04:15] jrattner1, sudo fdisk /dev/hda (if you have 1 hard drive) [04:15] well night everyone, time for a bath and bed [04:15] nba__ an audio CD or a data CD? === vader1102 [n=kevin@dsl-72-1-219.170.tel-ott.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:15] djm62: data cd [04:15] I just updated my breezy kernel from 2.6.12-8-386 to 2.6.12-9-386 and the boot sequence and virtual consoles are all black. removing "vga=773" from the kernel parameters fixed it, but now the virtual consoles have a huge font. === Effect [n=neostar9@24.115.144.82.res-cmts.tv13.ptd.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:16] can I get the font to be smaller? what's a good vga= value to use (on a 1024x768 laptop screen) [04:16] dooglus: Are you really going to be using the text-only consoles that much? [04:17] BlueEagle: I do like to use them, yeah. [04:17] nba__: have you got too many tracks to just reimport the folder with them all in? did you save the playlist from rhythmbox? [04:17] djm62: sorry dc [04:17] Some people only need CLI-level access... the blind especially [04:17] BlueEagle: and it's certainly nice to be able to read the boot-time messages before they scroll off the screen [04:17] dooglus: that's what dmesg is for. :) [04:17] dooglus: Hang on let me get the table. [04:17] BlueEagle: dmesg doesn't log everything [04:17] nba__: did you save the playlist from rhythmbox? [04:18] djm62: no [04:18] dooglus: What video card you got? I use 792 on mine (I think). [04:18] dooglus, There is a table here of the values and resolutions http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/1999/08/cg_framebuffer.html [04:18] dooglus: Check /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt for different modes available. [04:18] can any body just tell me how i would turn off x sever to install a nvidia driver [04:18] dooglus: provided you have got the linux sources and documentation. :) [04:18] nba__: it might be a different format than rhythmbox takes? [04:19] cafuego_: it's a crappy SIS thing built into the laptop motherboard [04:19] dooglus: aiyee [04:19] 773 = 1024x768x 256 colors [04:19] BlueEagle: I don't have /usr/src/* - this is a pre-built kernel [04:19] anybody want to answer a probably simple question [04:19] (although it looks like normal .m3u to me, from a quick test) [04:19] dooglus: YOu can install kernel sources. [04:19] Tonio0505: Go ahead [04:19] ZeroA4: I was using 773 before. it was nice. but now it's all black. black text on a black background? [04:19] Tonio0505: Not unless you ask it first. (Was that it?) [04:20] djm62: but the file extension is still .mp3? or does it matter === neighborlee [n=neighbor@d11-106.rb2.gh.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:20] how do i turn off x sever to install a nvidia driver === Phily2 [n=Phily@ip062.195-51-69.sogetel.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:20] dooglus: also see http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html [04:20] Tonio0505: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" [04:20] djm62: where can i find this rythmbox? [04:20] is that it [04:21] Tonio0505: Log out, go back to your login screen and choose console login. Do the nvidia stuff, then startx from the console [04:21] Tonio0505: You don't need to turn it off, you install the nvidia stuff (nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules) then enable nvidia, logout, hit ctrl-alt-backspace, done. [04:21] dooglus, black may be becose your monitor or your card does not suport the mode the fbdev is using now... === fadumpt [n=fadumpt@adsl-068-159-113-247.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:21] ZeroA4: maybe === HotCool [n=Mola@222.238.41.183] has joined #ubuntu [04:21] Tonio0505: All of these will work, just different approaches. === benplaut [n=benplaut@cpe-70-95-146-177.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === abbot45 [n=abbot45@66-191-124-70.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:21] nba__: the way rhythmbox works is, you have a load of files in various folders, and you right click on library, and select "add to library" and select the top-level folder, and rhythmbox (which is called Music Player in the menu) [04:21] so install it from the cousole login [04:21] thanks for the help guys [04:21] dooglus, try other modes === cafuego_ stabs ton [04:22] Tonio0505 too [04:22] nba__: rhythmbox sorts them out by the ID3 tags, so you can find them by artist, album, and name (or whatever) === trigger_ph [n=jon@WSN-0000165.websprinter.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:22] djm62: if i'll do that, can i play my mp3 music already? === ||maddox| [n=dox@a212-113-184-53.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu [04:23] nba__: should be able to (have you enabled universe and installed the plugin?) === daba1 [n=dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-56-23.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:24] !tell nba__ about restrictedformats [04:24] ZeroA4: do you think it's at all possible that 15 or 16 bit 1024x768 will work, when 8 bit 1024x768 didn't? [04:24] ZeroA4: I would guess that 15 or 16 bit is "harder" somehow... [04:24] nba__: Have a look-see at the url ubotu sendt you. [04:24] djm62: i don't know how to do that [04:24] nba__: where are your mp3s? [04:24] dooglus, I dont know... but i wolud give it a try === SiRrUs [n=SiRrUs@Toronto-HSE-ppp3718808.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [04:25] djm62: in my disc [04:25] nba__: as in CD or hard disk? [04:25] djm62 cd [04:25] dooglus: Did you have a look at the framebuffer how-to? === Phily2 [n=Phily@ip062.195-51-69.sogetel.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:26] nba__: can you make a folder in your home dir and move them there? select them all, then drag-n-drop === Discipulus [n=disc@unaffiliated/discipulus] has joined #ubuntu [04:26] BlueEagle: thanks [04:26] nba__: np. :) Got me scratching my head too. :) [04:26] djm62: ok i'll try that [04:26] Compact Disc, Hard Disk === HotCool [n=Mola@222.238.41.183] has joined #ubuntu === Blue-Box [n=chatzill@elvis.globecastna.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:27] daba1: I wish I could rely on other people using those semantics :-/ [04:27] djm62: i can play mp3 then? === daba1 is now known as dabaR [04:28] [04:28] ? [04:28] nba__: yeah, if you've done what ubotu said, and then open Music Player right click on Library, and select the directory where you've put the files [04:28] HotCool: what is that? Hangul? === malv [n=macca@pool-71-103-3-191.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:28] /dev/sda1 on /mnt/ntfs type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) (from mount), but mounted it says its a read-only filesystem. /mnt/ntfs is just the old directory, it will be /home once I can make it read/write. [04:28] nba__: then Music Player knows where your files are, and you can click and go :) [04:29] djm62: ok, i'll try that. thanks a lot! === Xorlev_ is now known as Xorlev [04:29] are there X font issues in breezy still ? ( http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67803&page=3 ) [04:30] nba__: you'll like it when you see it working (and if you don't, there are plenty of other players...find your favourite) === Rhisc [n=chris@68-112-65-131.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:31] hi [04:31] Xorlev: /mnt/ntfs? === djm62 goes for the collapse === djm62 [n=djm62@82-40-136-135.cable.ubr08.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] === Pasternak [n=spinach@dsl092-185-225.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:31] Rhisc: Hallo [04:31] Hello from my new Linux system woot! === nomed [n=daniele@host155-120.pool870.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:31] Congrats === karen [n=karen@adsl-68-72-112-8.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:31] Xorlev: 'sudo mount -n -o remount,rw /mnt/ntfs' - should that fail, unmount it and run fsck on it. [04:31] hi all [04:31] Rhisc, hello [04:31] from what i'm reading ubuntu will and doesn't use xdebconfigurator ... is there any other script that can generate an xorg.conf file for a livecd? [04:32] nomed: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [04:32] nomed: it generates it by default... [04:32] i was searching something that doesn't need user interaction .. [04:33] nomed: the fbdev X server [04:33] does anyone know how to install ati drivers ? === wastrel [n=dberner@dsl254-127-242.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:33] HELP!!! please. I have a deskjet 812 c printer and it just stopped working. Shows exclamation mark does that mean it's no longer detecting it? how do i fix? [04:33] nome that's SLOW though [04:33] Rhisc: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto === concept10 [n=concept1@c-67-166-167-125.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:33] bob2 should i write something in any runlevel scripts? [04:34] nomed: on the livecd? no [04:34] karen: I know this sounds stupid, but have you tried plugging into another USB port? === penguinboy [n=penguinb@24-159-145-55.dhcp.smrt.tn.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:34] also... can anyone reccomend a good mud client? [04:34] well it was working fine and then it just stopped suddenly. === Tonio0505 [n=Italiand@c-24-7-216-240.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:34] question....what folder contains my sources list? [04:34] a mud client? [04:34] bob2 i'm not using tha ubuntu livecd ... as base. [04:34] yeah [04:34] i thought muds were telnet [04:34] karen: What was it doing when it died? [04:34] they are [04:35] penguinboy, etc/apt/sources.list [04:35] so you're looking for a telnet client? [04:35] thank you [04:35] i was trying to print out an envelope [04:35] np [04:35] yes === supergrover [n=dcahill@231.20.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [04:35] nomed: what? [04:35] wastrel, mud clients are optimized for muds and let you do weird things like scripting. === Wax [n=spinach@dsl092-185-225.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:35] im about to upgrade to breezy, where does thunderbird archive your email? (Im about to backup my /home dir) [04:35] ah :] [04:35] karen: Unplug it, then plug back in, it may just need a data reset [04:35] back with the same problem, any one want to help me install a nvidia driver === MojoHand [n=MojoHand@jericho.gregrolling.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:36] Agamotto-- i guess i clicked and clicked so now i have 40 prints waiting and can't cancel them for some reaosn [04:36] reason [04:36] Tonio0505: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto [04:36] Tonio0505: That is easy. Use synpaptic, search for nvidia, install the bits, then do the console bit [04:36] Tonio0505: if you followed anything on the forums, you're probably boned [04:36] crap... for some reason I cant select anything in the grub boot loader, its like it dosent detect my keyboard [04:36] i want people on my LAN to be able to print to my printer - how do i set that up in CUPS? [04:36] karen: Unplug the printer for 60sec, then plug back in [04:36] i mean .. nomed: on the livecd? no <--- is this the same if i'm not using the ubuntu live cd bootup struct .. (casper i think) === zblach [n=zblach@HSE-Toronto-ppp137711.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu === teeagoo [n=tiago@201.29.191.44] has joined #ubuntu [04:37] howdy, just installed colony4 and my vfat partition is mounted readonly. [04:37] Agamotto--- i will unplug it and go from there, if you have any other suggestions please email me at krano@ameritech.net. thanks a bunch === robotgeek [n=robotgee@adsl-70-250-184-230.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:37] BlueEagle: I rebooted, trying "vga=ask", hoping it would allow me to try 790, 791, 792, but it didn't - it offered me a menu of different screen sizes, but none were any use. [04:37] I can sort my fstab out myself, I just want to know, [04:37] nomed: if your question is "I'm making some random derivative of the livecd and I don't know what I'm doing", you're asking in the wrong place [04:37] BlueEagle: so now I'm rebooting again, with a bunch of different lilo stanzas... [04:37] BlueEagle: if that fails, I'll read that fb webpage === Knelix [n=Knelix@c-67-191-67-171.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:38] Is this a design decision? Seems crazy to me. [04:38] Ugh. [04:38] I'm having a problem booting... [04:38] It may not be a specific Ubunto problem.... But it booted so well before from the live CD.... === nalioth [n=Apple@pdpc/supporter/bronze/nalioth] has joined #ubuntu [04:39] Knelix: Continue [04:39] OK... [04:39] bob2, i'm switching from xfree to xorg ... i was using morphix mkxf86config script .. then i've tryed out dexconf + xdebconfigurator .. [04:39] nomed: then #morphix [04:39] Well, I only have the CD/DVD drive connected. [04:39] dooglus: You are aware that you need to translate it to grub, right? === bananaman [n=rod@201.140.7.22] has joined #ubuntu [04:40] I just got a graphics card and installed and an old monitor to go with it. [04:40] I'd like to allow ppl on my LAN to print to the USB printer on my ubuntu box, can anyone help with this? [04:40] nomed: if you just want to make a working live cd, base it on ubuntu and strip whatever you don't want === misfit_toy [n=guy@cpe-70-112-252-226.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:40] Knelix: That is your problem. The bootinstaller needs a volume to mount to [04:40] Well, I boot up the system and it won't boot the Ubuntu Live CD. === MojoHand is now known as MojoWay [04:40] so did the latest xorg update hose everyone on breezy? [04:40] dooglus: Either that or you'll need to install lilo. [04:40] Knelix: check in the BIOS and see if it is set to allow booting from cdrom [04:40] I'm in CLI right now using bitchx 'cause I have no gui [04:41] Agamotto: But before I installed the card I tried it without the HDD and it booted up fine. === Amaranth [i=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu [04:41] djm62: ok, i'll do that [04:41] Knelix: Hmmmm. Ok, so much for that idea. [04:41] ok um... this probably gives away my horrific newbieness...but um... how do you uninstall programs? i want to get rid of evolution... [04:41] Agamotto: I've been fiddling with the BIOS, but I don't even fully understand all its truncated options. [04:41] djm62: thanks again:) [04:41] Knelix: what video card? [04:42] bananaman be careful uninstalling evolution, I've heard bad things about doing that [04:42] bananaman: sudo apt-get remove === pedro [n=pedro@as5300-s07-134.cnt.entelchile.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:42] so did the latest xorg update hose everyone on breezy? [04:42] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814121181 [04:42] Knelix: Summarise for me [04:42] BlueEagle: I can't get grub to work at all. I've always used lilo [04:42] bananaman: But be careful as to what you un-install. [04:42] bananaman: why do you want to remove it? === nomed [n=daniele@host155-120.pool870.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu ["/etc/init.d/nomed] [04:42] An Asus brand Geforce MX4000 128MB. [04:42] <_n00blar_> Anyone that can recommend a backup application for ubuntu? Mainly I'd be backing up to DvD directories like /etc, /usr, /var, /home and others [04:42] dooglus: Oh, well. Then you should be ok. [04:43] BlueEagle: I tried 773, 790, 791 and 792. the first 3 were all black, and the last one was apparently an illegal code. [04:43] can someone post the wget command to get the nvidia drivers ver 7667 and 7174 here please? === ooiDYvuTi [n=eideuoav@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu [04:43] Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape, [04:43] or Opera browser (i.e., /usr/lib/mozilla): que coloco aqui?? [04:43] dooglus: ...however getting grub working ain't much brain surgery. [04:43] Bug #1291: Mounted vfat partition is unreadable for non-root users. Opened 16 Sept 2004. Status: NEW. Ahem. === luckyaba [n=privolig@ip68-6-87-26.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:43] I don't see how the card can be responsible for my woes, but perhaps I should try it with the onboard video just in case. === misfit_toy is stuck in CLI === ooiDYvuTi is now known as XegbeFu === henafi [n=henafi@242-157-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu [04:43] no browsing === XegbeFu is now known as QZiiB === henafi [n=henafi@242-157-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has left #ubuntu ["Abandonando"] === QZiiB [n=eideuoav@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] [04:43] misfit_toy: lynx === bernhard [n=bernhard@dsl-084-056-100-044.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:43] Hi there! [04:43] oops. thought that was not writable. More fool me. [04:43] robotgeek ubuntu has lynx? cool [04:43] pedro: this is an english channel [04:43] Knelix: Ok. I assume it is a recent card... sounds like either the BIOS is still trying to use on-board video, or the hardware detector just doesn't like your card [04:43] lemme see [04:44] pedro: if you want mozilla, install the mozilla-browser package [04:44] Knelix, so it doesn't boot at all, just goes straight into windows? [04:44] BlueEagle: I originally installed using the hoary install disk. it installed a grub loader for me which completely screwed the machine - I could no longer boot windows, mandrake or ubuntu after that. I eventually managed to repair it enough to accept the lilo loader. i've tried grub again since, but it won't go. [04:44] ok thanks [04:44] Agamotto: I am getting video on the Monitor. [04:44] I have a little problem with my monitor's refresh rate. [04:44] Anyon want to help? [04:44] !resolution [04:44] I guess resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto [04:44] go there :) [04:44] Hrmmmm [04:44] tristanmike: I don't have (ugh) Windoze installed... this is a brand new budget PC just for Ubuntu. [04:45] Knelix, oh, ok [04:45] misfit_toy: the latest breezy update has hosed everything *except* x.org for me - ie. booting and virtual consoles. [04:45] dooglus: 792 shouldn't be an illegal code tbh. [04:45] misfit_toy: but X itself it fine [04:45] tristanmike: I have a hard drive, but it is unformated (or rather has old data in HFS+ format) [04:45] dooglus: Hang on, let meg get my breezy settings. [04:45] pedro, Vc ta instalando um plugin, ne ? vc pode fazer instalao automatica sem ter que ficar usando isso... tb pode mudar de canal para o #Ubuntu-pt para podemos falar em portugues === dbcs3 [n=dbcs3@210.213.148.55] has joined #ubuntu [04:45] BlueEagle: I know. I got 792 from one of the pages people just pasted. [04:45] dooglus grrrrr [04:45] Knelix, yeah, that should be fine... [04:45] ZeroA4: #ubuntu-es [04:45] i want to remove it because i dont use it === misfit_toy goes over to a lynx session, biab [04:46] and it annoys me to have things i dont use [04:46] bob2: isnt that message, that pedro there had, from when you are installing some app? === nerdy2 [n=jeff@adsl-68-21-185-2.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:46] It boots up and gives me a screen saying "WinFast". [04:46] anyone for configuring network printing in CUPS? === Pipe [i=Pipe@113-251-246-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #ubuntu [04:46] hmm, sand flavour [04:46] dabaR: hm? which message? === Pipe waves,"Hello People!" [04:46] Knelix, already had it to boot the live cd? without a hard-drive, and on the old video card? [04:46] Knelix: Ok, that is the flash screen for the video card [04:46] I just need to change the refresh rate to something above 60 Hz, the option in the menu doesn't work. Any way to manually adjust it? [04:46] bob2: input path of your web browser. [04:46] Knelix: that would be the VGA bios [04:47] dooglus: apperantly breezy does something magic with initrd :/ === eieQei [n=lheosn@85.204.194.23] has joined #ubuntu === eieQei [n=lheosn@85.204.194.23] has left #ubuntu [] [04:47] Then it tells me my CPU, memory, etc... then... Primary master hard disk fail, Primary Slave " fail, Secondary Master " fail. [04:47] dabaR: oh, right [04:47] Please enter the installation path of the Mozilla, Netscape, [04:47] Knelix: Sounds right, if you don't have a hd installed [04:47] robotgeek, I was responding pedro... he wrote a line im portuguese... i asked him to go to a portuguese chanel [04:47] Knelix: That's not right. is everything plugged in correctly inside? === concept10 [n=concept1@c-67-166-167-125.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:48] BlueEagle: breezy has been fine for months - it's only the update of about an hour ago which broke my VCs [04:48] I have a gpg question, anyone up for helping me? === bwlang [n=bwlang@bb-66-55-211-238.gwi.net] has joined #ubuntu === dbcs3_ [n=dbcs3@210.213.148.55] has joined #ubuntu [04:48] cafuego: Well, as far as I can see it is.. I check the IDE connectors, etc... and those seem fine. === GadeorUXei [n=lheosn@85.204.194.23] has joined #ubuntu === wastrel [n=dberner@dsl254-127-242.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === GadeorUXei [n=lheosn@85.204.194.23] has left #ubuntu [] [04:48] colony4 sets up a vfat partition as readonly. Bad design or bug? Anyone? [04:48] dooglus: :) [04:48] dooglus: That can happen. [04:48] Knelix, you didn't mess around with the jumpers did you? [04:49] tristanmike: Yes, it booted fine without the card before. [04:49] BlueEagle: can I see a list of the most recently updated packages anywhere? [04:49] some address a msg to me please (testing IRC in opera) [04:49] Knelix, you said you have onboard video? when you installed the card, did you turn the onboard video off? [04:49] BlueEagle: like, I've forgotten what updates just came though... [04:49] anyone gotten the latest Opera to work in breezy? [04:50] Knelix, in the BIOS? [04:50] tristanmike: All I did was install the HDD and graphics card. Of course, I had to plug in the HDD to the power and IDE cable, but I've since uninstalled those. === Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg ) [04:50] benplaut: yes. [04:50] concept10: Can't, channel is currently blocking them [04:50] benplaut: but I had to use the opera_static one, not the 'breezy' one === CezCeZa [n=lheosn@85.204.194.23] has joined #ubuntu === CezCeZa [n=lheosn@85.204.194.23] has left #ubuntu [] [04:50] tristanmike: Well, I tried to... Lemme take a look again... It uses the Phonenix AwardBios v6.00P [04:51] Knelix, what did you uninstall exactly? === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@adsl-144-177-44.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu === ako [n=ako@210.213.154.245] has joined #ubuntu [04:51] What is an AGP aperture size? [04:51] baby boy === Philyco [n=sophie@ip062.195-51-69.Sogetel.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:52] benplaut: http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/opera/linux/850/final/en/i386/static/opera-static_8.50-20050916.1-qt_en_i386.deb worked for me in breezy [04:52] Knelix: that is the amount of memory that the card is allowed to use... 64meg should be more that sufficient === asker [n=asker@210.213.154.245] has joined #ubuntu [04:52] tristanmike: I disconnected the power and IDE cables from the HDD, since I thought it might be causing the problems. [04:52] ZeroA4: oh okay, my bad! [04:52] Knelix, so there is no hard drive connected to the compter? [04:53] Agamotto: But this is a 128MB card... [04:53] Knelix: Ok, take it up to 128 then [04:53] tristanmike: That's right. But, like I said-- It booted fine without one before. [04:53] baho mo pepe// === asker [n=asker@210.213.154.245] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:54] Knelix, the live cd did? and now you're trying to get the live cd to work again, with the new card and no hard drive? [04:54] I don't see a way to completely disable the onboard video, only change the memory size and clockrate. === seth_k [n=seth@asmallorange.com] has joined #ubuntu === irvin [n=irvin@203.215.115.150] has joined #ubuntu [04:54] how do i recover my workspace? [04:54] Bohooo, does noone know how to change the refresh rate? [04:54] the little thigns are gone from the taskbar [04:54] <_n00blar_> Has anyone here used BackupPC? I'd like to know if it can backup to dvds before installing it === malv [n=macca@pool-71-103-3-191.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu [] [04:54] tristanmike: That's right. So, only thing that is different (to my knowledge) is the card. === docles [n=docles@201009099044.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [04:55] ubuntu includes 2 web browsers? [04:56] The computer has a chip inside that says (actually its printed on its heatsink) Winfast, same as the onscreen logo I am presented with. [04:56] ive added backports to sources.list, but the packages from backports ( java 1.5... ) is not appearing on synaptic, how can i solve it ? [04:56] whta is the other ubuntu channel? [04:56] Knelix: That is your on-board video === Wax [n=spinach@dsl092-185-225.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:56] Knelix, I didn't know the LiveCD would run without a hard drive, if you have onboard video there must be an option to turn onboard off, the two cards may be conflicting. === RuffianSoldier [i=user@cpe-24-209-106-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === RuffianSoldier [i=user@cpe-24-209-106-36.woh.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [04:57] Knelix: Is this an Emachines box, or something else? [04:57] where can i set module aliases? === helix_ [n=helix@71.115.211.156] has joined #ubuntu === metzen [n=yep@cpe-66-24-90-112.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:57] can anyone give me the link to ubuntus multi-universe [04:57] Agamotto: I built it using a Foxconn barebones with a Sempron 2400+ CPU. [04:58] helix_: why? [04:58] Hmmm, ok. So it isn't a 'fixed' motherboard most likely... Somewhere in the manual for the motherboard, there should be a way to shut off the on-board video [04:58] I cant sign the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, when I try the gpg --clearsign U*** it asumes I'll be using my main key...the things is Im using a secondary key. How do I clearsign with a secondary key? Anyone? Please? [04:58] helix_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?action=show&redirect=HowToEnableTheMultiverseRepositoryInUbuntu [04:58] tristanmike: I just started up with the monitor connected to the onboard VGA port and I'm not getting any image at all. [04:59] Knelix, no POST? [04:59] Agamotto: i don't like the manual. It isn't very helpful at all. [04:59] Pipe: please don't be annoying [04:59] tristanmike: Nothing. No image. [04:59] Knelix: If you have plugged in the other video card, wouldn't you need to plug the monitor into THAT port? [05:00] Knelix, but just before, you at least got POST and now nothing? === hectorman [n=hector@HSE-Montreal-ppp133483.qc.sympatico.ca] has left #ubuntu [] === jims [n=jims@adsl-69-235-32-210.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:00] Pipe: also, --default-key === kongas [n=hahaha@210.213.148.67] has joined #ubuntu === X7C [n=xtc@pc-63-24-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:00] tristanmike, i know how to add them, but what are the links? [05:00] or link repositories? [05:00] helix_: you don't need a "link" to it [05:00] helix_: you just add it to /etc/apt/sources.list === Oqoei [n=osouuldb@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu === Oqoei [n=osouuldb@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] === chinookfe [n=chinookf@69-173-61-163.atlaga.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:01] but whats name of the repository [05:01] helix_: multiverse [05:01] Pipe: also this might be useful. http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html [05:01] tristanmike, Agamotto: Yes, of course, I was just testing. Yes, I was getting POST and BIOS access before... I'm thinking it just automatically turns off onboard video signal when there's a graphics card attached. [05:01] helix_: why don't you tell us what you're actually trying to do? [05:01] thanks [05:01] Ugh [05:01] ahhh, ok. Rules out the stupid then === war-totem [n=lightbri@CPE0040052e5c4c-CM0f1029953548.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:01] You would be amazed at how many people forget to plug the monitor into the new card [05:01] hi [05:02] sino kayo === depoll is now known as dePOLL [05:02] Hehe [05:02] I don't understand why this is happening. [05:02] how do i enable breezy backports ? [05:03] It does sound like a conflict [05:03] docles: wtf [05:03] I'm going to unplug the machine and check all the cables. === kongas [n=hahaha@210.213.148.67] has joined #ubuntu [05:03] docles: don't be silly [05:03] bob2, take it easy, i am new to ubuntu, sorry if im making a dumb question. === Linner [n=Linner@71.243.221.228] has joined #ubuntu [05:03] Knelix, I suggest taking the card out, rebooting, going into the BIOS, look for an option to turn off the video, shut down, install new card and reboot === uaihiASLi [n=osouuldb@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu [05:03] deb http://usr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary multi-universe [05:03] is that okay to add? [05:03] hey ya'll === uaihiASLi [n=osouuldb@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] [05:03] oops [05:04] docles: breezy isn't released yet [05:04] helix_: no [05:04] docles: backports are versions of software from an unstable version fo rthe stable version. Breezy *is* the unstable version [05:04] I'm trying very hard to find the page on Ubuntu where you sign the code of conduct... I can't find it for the life of me and I'm a web developer!!!! [05:04] i cant wait for breezy === irvin [n=irvin@203.215.115.150] has joined #ubuntu === aeoRau [n=aehayuoj@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu === aeoRau [n=aehayuoj@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] [05:04] Can someone point me to the page? [05:04] Linner: signing it doesn't gain you anything useful === ouuiiAzaZ [n=soqieooq@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu [05:04] Linner: it's linked from your home page on launchpad.net [05:04] bob2, can you give me the right one? [05:04] bob2: that's ok... === ouuiiAzaZ [n=soqieooq@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] [05:04] Linner, bob2, why would one sign the code? === nalioth_ [n=Apple@cpe-68-201-223-188.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:05] dabaR, ok. thanks; sorry for the silly question. [05:05] bob2: my home page? [05:05] docles: no idea [05:05] unless you're uploading packages to ubunt [05:05] u [05:05] bob2, you're very knowledgeable. i need a new NIC and would like to know if you can recommend where i could get a cheap one that'll work with ubuntu out of the box. === robotgeek is now known as robotgeek_away [05:05] "MIC"? [05:05] microphone? [05:05] docles: I dont find it bad. === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@adsl-65-43-215-152.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:05] snausages: Pretty much anything from 3com [05:05] Linner: ...make a launchpad account [05:05] tristanmike: I just unplugged the card... the heatsink was HOT! === carlos [n=carlos@24-178-68-239.dhcp.smyr.ga.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:05] or NIC? [05:05] it's suggested that one would do this when participating in IRC channels and forums. [05:05] my xterm is fucked in the head [05:05] . === aoaoLaSk [n=soqieooq@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu [05:05] bob2 i said NIC =) [05:05] Linner: it's of no advantage, tho === guest8 [n=guest8@203.177.247.90] has joined #ubuntu [05:05] god im killing myself over this bcm4306 [05:05] Agamotto they all seem to be over $20 though [05:05] snausages: anything PCI should work [05:06] bob2: and it will automatically make a link there? === aoaoLaSk [n=soqieooq@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] [05:06] hi === nalioth_ is now known as nalioth === oiiodiiNSi [n=osouuldb@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu [05:06] Linner: ? if you want to sign the CoC (which is pointless), make a launchpad account [05:06] nalioth: hey you :) [05:06] bob2: the post you addressed to docles was for me? [05:06] ellow................. [05:06] grrrrrr [05:06] bob2: okey dokey [05:06] thanks [05:06] snausages: realtek tends to be shit, but are cheap [05:06] bob2 i think the one i have is PCI, but it's a crazy tulip thing [05:06] helix_, that should be fine, but put a second entry below that one with "-src" after deb on the second one. [05:06] snausages: Yes, and some video cards are selling for over $400. You also get more features with them :) === oiiodiiNSi [n=osouuldb@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] [05:06] dabaR: er, right === Linner [n=Linner@71.243.221.228] has left #ubuntu [] [05:06] snausages: that should work fine, too [05:06] bob2: ok. How come you are swearing so much? [05:06] aside from APIC insnaity [05:07] dabaR: ? [05:07] Agamotto i'm aware... thing is, though, this pc is from 1998 and i don't want to invest too much into it =D [05:07] bob2 i couldnt make it work === fanopanic [i=fanopani@research01.amd.co.at] has joined #ubuntu [05:07] I need some help please!!!! I have no sound my pc is HP4535 can any body help me? === wackymush [n=ubuntu@adsl-65-43-215-152.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:07] snausages: Fair enough [05:07] i asked round in the forums but people suggested that it wouldn't work === ken_ [n=ken@142-165-146-193.regn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:08] the forums people tend to be clueless [05:08] ime [05:08] anyone want to help me with mp3 support in rhythmbox? === ColonelKernel [n=feelthel@c-67-169-119-203.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:08] wackymush: read the faq, then install gstreamer0.8-mad [05:08] bob2 maybe so, but in here it's very hard to get help at times, which is understandable [05:08] ok. is the faq on ubuntu,.com ? [05:08] wackymush: the one that is in the channel topic === guest8 [n=guest8@203.177.247.90] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:08] snausages: I'd try the user list ahead of the forums [05:09] ok thanks [05:09] i'm sorry, user list? [05:09] snausages: lists.ubuntu.com [05:09] oh thanks [05:09] i'll try that too === Mr_Z [n=nate@adsl-69-208-92-168.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:10] bob2, feel like helping me out with this wretched wireless card? [05:10] tristanmike, Agamotto: After unplugging the card and and loading default BIOS settings it's now loading Ubuntu off of the LiveCD. [05:10] not unless you ask a specific question [05:10] Hi, can anyone tell me where to find the official repostories for Ubuntu? [05:10] mindframe: what does the ndiswrapper wiki say? [05:10] robotgeek_away, didnt help a bit [05:10] !tell Mr_Z about repos [05:10] Can this have anything to do with this being the Preview version LiveCD? === robotgeek_away is now known as robotgeek [05:11] Knelix: Ok, either a conflict with the two video boards, or the hardware finder on the disc doesn't like your card === ieqSeqfx [n=aehayuoj@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu [05:11] Mr_Z: in your /etc/apt/sources.list === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-29-111.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu [05:11] Knelix: Possibly, but unlikely [05:11] i am in the need for the repositories that come with java, azureus and mplayer [05:11] Knelix, that's good to hear, but my vote is still for the BIOS setting to turn off your onboard. I couldn't tell you what the option might becalled, I tend to stray away from onboard video [05:11] the multiverse dont give me anything === ieqSeqfx [n=aehayuoj@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] [05:12] helix_: Java is direct from Sun, no repository === robotgeek is now known as robotgeek-away === robotgeek-away is now known as robotgeek_away [05:12] Agamotto, once i added some repos to the ubuntu sources.list and installed java and azureus with no problem === ColonelKernel [i=ishai@24-205-124-191.dhcp.hspr.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:12] but i forgot them [05:12] Ok I'm confused, a lot of people are having trouble with java, I installed it via the "extras" repo, and had no problem, is it no longer there?? === uoUoexoq [n=soqieooq@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu === uoUoexoq [n=soqieooq@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] [05:13] Helix_: Must be the Nerim sites [05:13] tristanmike: yes. [05:13] tristanmike, can you give me the name of the repo? [05:13] dabaR, it's been removed? [05:13] Java Run Time, or just Java Script [05:13] tristanmike: no, they lost it. what do you think? === concept10 [n=concept1@c-67-166-167-125.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:13] tristanmike: as are the w32codecs. legal issues.. === robbkidd [n=robbkidd@ip70-179-76-249.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:14] When did all of this happen? [05:15] well..time to install java manually [05:15] fsck! [05:15] enjoy [05:15] yay for people writing free software in proprietary languages [05:16] bob2: :) [05:16] tristanmike: nobody knows. most likely they created some hullabaloo like some emmy award show or stuff and removed tons of packages without us noticing it. oooh, those evil b****! [05:16] bob2: I think that is cause the software was proprietary at some point. === Agamotto chuckles [05:17] Time to kill off some legal departments [05:17] dePOLL, lol [05:17] bob2: what are some examples...OOo, Eclipse...what else? === wastrel [n=dberner@dsl254-127-242.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:17] if anyone can help please...how do u authenticate to a windows PDC on samba? i've edited /etc/cups/printers.conf, particularly the DeviceURI directive, but still can't authenticate properly. [05:17] dePOLL, sneaky friggers [05:18] can anyone help me get IP printing set up so clients on my LAN can print to my ubuntu box? [05:18] trigger_ph: what document are you following? === Belutz [n=Belutz@202.155.150.76] has joined #ubuntu === wvmac [n=wvmac@68-119-135-191.dhcp.chtn.wv.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:18] wastrel: what OS do the clients run? === Rylie [n=unnone@65-182-234-130.ccmtc.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:18] tristanmike: well, those open source guys.. you never know what they are capable of. or as george would say "if you use open source, the terrorists win". the communists. whatever.. it's not in the repos any more ;) === chemisus [n=chemisus@pcp09463696pcs.ctftmy01.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:18] os x & linux [05:18] dabaR: just the conf i'm afraid [05:18] dabaR: azureus was always GPL, afaik [05:19] trigger_ph: there is a samba wiki page... [05:19] OMG I just read through the Java how-to, man that is some BS, I don't understand, since they weren't even endorsed by Ubuntu, right? [05:20] asdfjhasdlk [05:20] hey everyone === Knelix2 [n=ubuntu@c-67-191-67-171.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:20] Hey === teeagoo [n=tiago@201.29.191.44] has left #ubuntu ["Fui] [05:20] dabaR: DeviceURI smb://:@/ <-- googled this, but won't work. can I please have the samba wiki page uri? === Rylie [n=unnone@65-182-234-130.ccmtc.com] has joined #ubuntu === Firetech [n=Firetech@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:20] dabaR: thanks! [05:20] trigger_ph: good luck. Hope that helps. [05:21] I'm chatting via the PC, so Internet works at least. === sonojacker [n=sono@host-201-141-51-181.cablevision.net.mx] has left #ubuntu [] === Marxist [n=richard@pool-68-161-14-29.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:21] Is there any way to choose a screen resolution not listed by the GNOME control panel? [05:21] tristanmike: as i understand it it's just a precaution to prevent the repo-guys from getting into *potential* trouble [05:22] Knelix2: edit the Xorg.conf [05:22] is there any documentation for metacity anywhere? alt-tab has started blacking out windows in an ugly manner... [05:22] Hmm. [05:22] dePOLL, so what do people do about mp3 now? [05:23] Oh, well I'll guess I should worry about that later... lemme go ahead, instal the card and try to boot again... [05:23] dooglus: what windows? all of them? [05:23] dabaR, I think i have the cupsd.conf file set up correctly. but i'm getting an error in the cups error log about resource name "/ipp" being no good [05:24] i think it's a client configuration problem [05:24] tristanmike: dunno. i'm not really into all this legal chitchat.. [05:24] dePOLL, all i can say is crap! Thanx for the info [05:24] wastrel: ask Seveas [05:24] dabaR: here's what happens: press and hold ALT, then tap and release TAB to switch to the next window. if I then hold ALT, the window I've switched to is all black. I can't see its content until I let go of ALT. this makes it hard to identify whether I'm switching to the right window or not. [05:25] dabaR: I'm not sure when this started happening, but it's quite recent I think. [05:25] What is a Video BIOS shadow? [05:25] when the computer saves the video bios into ram [05:25] anyone, when i shutdown my ubuntu, it hangs with the message "could not connect to database" i don't know what's wrong [05:25] for faster access [05:25] cause rom is usually slower than ram [05:25] dooglus: isnt there a list of apps in the middle of your screen when you do that? [05:26] We are currently engineering other ways to provide these packages that do not suffer from these issues.". [05:26] dabaR: do you see the same behaviour? [05:26] tristanmike: you're welcome. as john dong points out: " ^ [05:26] Marxist: Should I have that enabled if I am running via a card, rather than onboard graphics? [05:26] dabaR: there is, yes, but I'm used to looking at the window contents, not the names. [05:26] seveas: i'm trying to set up clients to print to my ubuntu box, but i'm getting an error in my cups error log when i try to print over the network about resource name '/ipp' being no good. what should i look for? [05:26] i should be fine without that option [05:26] it*( [05:27] dooglus: I ue openbox, so I dont know. [05:27] i don't think it would be safe to enable that with linux [05:27] dabaR: oh, ok [05:27] linux takes over the PC once the bios hands over the hardware [05:27] takes over when* === misfit_toy [n=guy@cpe-70-112-252-226.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === phrizer [n=lance@60-234-134-230.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #Ubuntu [05:28] no joy, I guess I'll wait til xorg gets updated in the next 15 minutes or 15 day === jorgp3 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-133.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:29] you would think the GUI itself would be kinda important to test, duh. [05:29] ? [05:29] ah i give up on correct spelling , i just came from work, I'm tired === misfit_toy steps out for a cigar [05:29] bbl === zrothe [n=Miranda@67.132.247.180] has joined #ubuntu [05:29] Booting from the CD with the video card!!! [05:29] What was wrong: I have no idea-- Perhaps a BIOS setting. === NsOmNiAc [i=nsomniac@otaku.freeshell.ORG] has joined #ubuntu [05:30] Knelix: Qapla' [05:30] Knelix: Yeah what's that for? You admit that you have no idea however the first thing to blame is your poor little BIOS. shame on you! === dabaR congratulates misfit_toy on promoting cravings === theblue_ [n=theblue@pcp04402293pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:32] dePOLL: :-P [05:32] Actually, it was probably something I did... but, no matter... [05:33] :) [05:33] Just as long as you don't allow the blue smoke out of the case [05:33] dePOLL, I think it might be BIOS related cause he can boot with onboard, but not when he installes the card, and he said he didn't shut down the onboard vid, so sounds like a conflict, no? [05:33] Is the graphics card suppose to get so hot?? [05:33] It can [05:34] Knelix: it is not supposed to, but it may :D === Draucon [n=Draucon@dialup-free-310.nmsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu [05:34] dePOLL: I mean, not like I'm running some intensive game... it's just GNOME... === iandexter is away: Punta sa bodega, magkakargador muna. [05:34] tristanmike: yeah, i had my sleepless nights due too irq-conflicts and stuff too :/ sucks when you have to decide whether you want to use your video or network card today coz both is not possible.. :) === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@adsl-65-43-215-152.dsl.bcvloh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu === toxicle [n=toxicle@60.48.182.36] has joined #ubuntu [05:35] Knelix: as long as you don't have some very high end card with a broken fan it should be alright [05:35] hi guys ... my card is not getting an ip from dhcp .. how do i set static ip? === WebLOCH [n=baris@82-34-95-143.cable.ubr05.gill.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [05:36] Hey guys [05:36] toxicle: you have a router? === wastrel [n=dberner@dsl254-127-242.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu === Knelix2 [n=ubuntu@c-67-191-67-171.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:36] dabaR: yes i do [05:36] allo dabaR === Philyco [n=sophie@ip062.195-51-69.Sogetel.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:36] yp WebLOCH. [05:37] dabaR: it worked fine till i plugged out the cable [05:37] rehi. i'm getting this error in /var/log/cups/error_log when i try to print from mac over the LAN to CUPS on ubuntu: get_printer_attrs: resource name '/ipp' no good! [05:37] anyone know what to do to fix? [05:37] toxicle, have you rebooted the hardware? [05:37] dabaR: /etc/network/interfaces for setting up your (surprise) interfaces. dhclient for trying to get a new ip via dhcp [05:37] has anyone here tried a 2.6.13+ kernel on breezy preview? [05:38] dabaR: yes [05:38] anyways [05:38] i want to set a static ip [05:38] dePOLL: what are you talking about? [05:38] where can i get a complete commands for console??? in ubuntu of course [05:38] toxicle: well. do you use gnome? [05:38] dabaR: yes i do === ouroboros [n=ouroboro@ool-182fb5a1.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:38] but only on my desktop [05:38] hello [05:38] sPYder---: complete commands? [05:38] dabaR: console way? [05:38] dabaR: apparently i prefixed my msg with the wrong nick, sry.. concerned toxicle's problem.. === holycow [n=a@S0106000fb51e6051.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:39] toxicle: and, would you like this set up with a terminal, or a GUI? [05:39] I still need help : ATI All in Wonder Pro, ubuntu hoary, amd64 - need to enable direct rendering [05:39] dabaR is there? [05:39] dabaR: terminal thanks [05:39] it's been a week [05:39] Graphics are still molasas slow.. I guess that means I need drivers. [05:39] sPYder---: whats that mean? === tomsdimension [n=tklich@host-12-179-64-155.nctv.com] has joined #ubuntu === benkong2 [n=benkong2@cpe-065-190-203-070.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:39] hello [05:39] commands [05:39] ati [05:39] does anybody know if there is a ubuntuguide for breezy? [05:39] ping [05:39] or where can i find repositories for breezy [05:40] !repos [05:40] from memory, repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 [05:40] !commands [05:40] commands is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ [05:40] wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpdates === jims [n=jims@adsl-69-235-32-210.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === JDahl [n=joachim@ca-stmnca-cuda4-gen2t1-68.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:40] toxicle: set up something like http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2446 in your /etc/network/interfaces file, to get a static IP. [05:40] wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes sorry [05:41] ElBarono_: just do that and reboot? [05:41] Wow... keyboard media keys work in Ubuntu... [05:41] dabaR: just do that and reboot? [05:41] Very nice. [05:42] Hm, whenever i try and resize the window in totem, the video itself doesnt stretch. Instead it just seems to stop repainting the extra (new) area. === ice_1963 [n=gary@pcp02171155pcs.brghtn01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:42] Hello, I just loaded Ubuntu on my laptop last week and learning how to use Linux & Evolution. Can anyone answer a question about the Address Book? [05:42] can i "ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.10" ? === Echelon-H [n=echelon@DSL217-132-0-70.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [05:42] toxicle: there is no rebooting in linux, pretty much. you turn off then on the interface. sudo ifdown eth0 ; sudo ifup eth0 [05:42] dabaR: ok thanks [05:42] toxicle: I dont know. === iandexter is back (gone 00:08:28) [05:43] jims: it depends on what the question is. [05:43] phrizer: do you have another movie window open? [05:43] you can use killall gnome-panel :0) [05:43] I am used to Thunderbird collecting e-mail addresses, but Evolution does not seem to keep them for future use... [05:43] iandexter: please turn that off [05:44] ice_1963: what are you saying? [05:44] jims, I think you manually have to right click a sender and add it to the address book === Belutz [n=Belutz@202.155.150.76] has joined #ubuntu [05:44] jims: you can also install thunderbird, even. [05:44] JDahl: Thanks! I'll try that... [05:44] jims: dunno if that is teh right thing to do, tho. === killapop [n=allan@203.145.183.210] has joined #ubuntu [05:45] dabaR, what do you mean? that's how Evolution does it... [05:45] instead of rebooting ok [05:45] !resolution [05:45] well, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto [05:45] dabaR: I was trying to use Evoluiton, becasue I think I can sync with my phone & PDA... === Agamotto waves [05:46] Time to do some analog reading === Agamotto [n=agamotto@adsl-64-109-18-28.dsl.rcfril.ameritech.net] has left #ubuntu ["Back] [05:46] dabaR: Also, as a newbie, I wanted to keep things as stable as possible before trying to load more programs... === Amaranth [i=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu === TTilus [n=terotil@tavi.auvila.jyu.fi] has joined #ubuntu === ishtvan22 [n=ishtvan2@MG001.bandwave.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:47] if i am using a root terminal... does it mean that i am using the root acct? / privilege? [05:47] all those repositories are for hoary [05:47] are there some for breezy? === Sonny_Wertzik [n=Sonny_We@ip24-250-11-28.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:47] nop lol [05:47] sPYder---: yes === cx22 [n=cx22@210.213.180.9] has joined #ubuntu [05:48] were [05:48] JDahl: That works! I knew it had to be something simple... [05:48] hello everyone! can someone help me in installing wine? im a newbie in Ubuntu === customer [n=customer@210.213.183.168] has joined #ubuntu === Lifetaker [n=LTS@cpe-24-93-24-218.rochester.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:48] bimberi acct? [05:49] hello everyone! can someone help me in installing wine? im a newbie in Ubuntu!!! [05:49] jims, yes, you may or may not like how Evolution works, but it's a decent piece of software [05:49] apt-get install wine [05:49] cx22: enable the universe repository and install wine [05:49] how? and where can i find it? [05:49] i really have no idea here [05:50] has anyone here succesfully compiled the new MPlayer-1.0pre7try2 with GUI? [05:50] better yet install window's :0) [05:50] sPYder---: it's a root login shell, confirm so with "echo $USER" === GrannyTux [n=rustina@d64-180-37-204.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:50] cx22: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto [05:50] i was a windows user. but now im tryin to learn liux === Firetech [n=Firetech@h53n1fls301o1100.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:50] im gonna check that out... thanks crimsum! [05:51] hey whats up with java [05:51] not by installing wine [05:51] filename change? [05:51] how can i refresh my gnome panel? [05:51] dabaR, Nope, no other window === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has joined #ubuntu [05:51] no get from apt-get and yes souces.list edited === volvoguy [n=volvoguy@pcp09060059pcs.rocsth01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === misfit_toy [n=guy@cpe-70-112-252-226.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:51] is there a Sun JRE apt source for breezy? [05:52] sPYder---: define "refresh" [05:52] GrannyTux: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java [05:52] sPYder---: its always fresh, how come? [05:52] if you can do it in window's you can do it in linux [05:52] linux rock's [05:52] no spyder, you don't have to log out to do that :) [05:52] ice_1963: hang the machine w/ie bug too? [05:53] I fell for the temptation to upgrade to Breezy and my sound stopped working. I have no clue what to look, because everything appears OK, I can even get gnome sound-server sounds. I just can't get any audio output from regular programs. Any suggestions for bug-hunting? [05:53] phrizer: I do not think I was talking to you b4. [05:54] dabaR phrizer: do you have another movie window open? [05:54] i want to play more than one sound per time...how i can do it? eg: if a music is playing on xmms and i execute "play abc.wav", the sound abc.wav is played AFTER i stop the music on xmms (or the music finishes) [05:54] !fasttrack [05:54] NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, cat [05:54] JDahl: start "regular programs" from console, with verbatim output, if possible, and watch what they say about audio [05:54] Turicas: are you using Hoary or Breezy? [05:54] phrizer: then I dont know. what graphics card do you ahve? on board? [05:54] crakrjak, 5.04 [05:54] ops === root_ [i=root@83.228.46.4] has joined #ubuntu [05:54] crimsun, 5.04 [05:54] ubotu: write english? [05:54] TTilus: I give up, what is it? [05:55] Turicas: if you're using Turicas, read alsa.opensrc.org about dmix [05:55] SiS, onboard, it was all working good a week or so ago [05:55] thx === anacaona [n=nadine@MTL-HSE-ppp184744.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:55] hello [05:55] crimsun, tkz.. :) === creart [n=creart@x1-6-00-0a-e4-48-66-2f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu === Mioob [n=aotii@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu === creart_ [n=creart@x1-6-00-0a-e4-48-66-2f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu === Mioob [n=aotii@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] [05:55] hey all [05:55] ubotu: ?! [05:55] TTilus, I dont get any error messages from mplayer, xmms, totem, cdplayer etc [05:55] TTilus: Are you smoking crack? [05:55] need help with groupware on ubuntu === Turicas [n=justen@200165217220.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu === chx [n=chx@unaffiliated/chx] has left #ubuntu ["Konversation] === furic [n=furic@c211-30-120-238.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [05:56] JDahl: check mixer, you may have something muted tjsp [05:56] crimsun, excuse me..can you repeat please? [05:56] Turicas: if you're using Hoary, read alsa.opensrc.org about dmix [05:56] i installed both php and egroupware from synaptic but neither work. [05:56] s/tjsp/oslt (leaked my nativity) :D [05:57] when i go to http://localhost/egroupware (or phpgroupware)/ i get a file not found error. [05:57] Why, in nautilus, when i go on my my web servers ftp and select view->Show Hidden Files, i cannot see a .htaccess file in the directory, but on the same computer, connecting to the same server, looking in the same directory, i can see the .htaccess in konqueror? [05:57] what's the console command for ubuntu update manager [05:57] TTilus, nothing muted either. But I dont wonder why I can suddenly choose between "Intel 82801 (Alsa)" and "Analog Devices (OSS Mixer)"; that's something new I think [05:58] On hoary === lukewarm [n=lukewarm@wv-morgantown-cdnt1-bg1-4a-a-245.mgtnwv.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === zrothe4 [n=Miranda@67.132.247.180] has joined #ubuntu === dLabHKi [n=aotii@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu === dLabHKi is now known as ZWveaMoioi === Rylie [n=unnone@65-182-234-130.ccmtc.com] has joined #ubuntu === ZWveaMoioi [n=aotii@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] === AngryParsley_ [n=AngryPar@ool-457619d7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:59] JDahl: check both alsa and oss mixers === ztonzy [n=ztonzy@blender/artist/ztonzy] has joined #ubuntu [05:59] TTilus, I did that also, with no luck. I think I used Alsa under Hoary, so I guess I should stick with Alsa, right? [05:59] JDahl: do you have soundcard _and_ embedded sound too? [06:00] furic: You'll find that after changing that pref and restarting naultilus, it'll show just fine. === Knelix [n=Knelix@c-67-191-67-171.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:00] TTilus, I have an IBM tp40, god knows what's inside it [06:00] JDahl: yes, i think, ... [06:00] JDahl: 'lspci' knows [06:00] JDahl: ah, portable, no double sounds then, propably [06:01] I have to restart the app just to get it to stop hiding . prefixed files? thats insane. [06:01] JDahl: try different sound outputs with mplayer (choose from setup) === dr_willis [n=willis@12-222-81-183.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:01] has anyone here succesfully compiled the new MPlayer-1.0pre7try2 with GUI? [06:02] Ok, problem, i close and reopen, and its unset the show hidden files setting, so restarting is not only a stupid way to fix it, but it can't possibly work too === dbcs7 [n=dbcs7@210.213.148.55] has joined #ubuntu === wastrel [n=dberner@dsl254-127-242.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:02] TTilus, I tried all of those, also without luck - I never had problems with sound before, and the gnome sound is actually working (but I disabled it so it would lock /dev/dsp) [06:03] *gnome sound server with BELLs etc === Belutz [n=Belutz@202.155.150.76] has joined #ubuntu === opteek [n=opteek@adsl-68-78-65-85.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu === dbcs6 [n=dbcs6@210.213.148.55] has joined #ubuntu [06:04] JDahl: weirdo [06:04] JDahl: I have a suggestion. wait a sec tho. [06:04] hi again. anyone on who can help me configure a mac client to print to CUPS on my ubuntu system? i'm having trouble figuring out the address of the print queue to use... [06:04] crimsun: is the udev bud fixed? [06:04] Don't gnome sound use esound? [06:04] anyone know of a possible reason why after shutting down my system properly, and then starting it up again many hours later, the owner and group of my .IceAuthority file where changed to root???? === AngryParsley_ is now known as AngryParsley [06:04] dabar: the x mouse one? yes., === oneifreak [n=oneifrea@142.66.74.4] has joined #ubuntu [06:05] dabaR: as of 14, yes === ionrock [n=ionrock@pool-70-16-86-151.alt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:05] as of 2 pm? [06:05] wastrel: http://host:port/printers/printername ? === el [n=jonah@207-224-75-54.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:05] crimsun: oh, the 14 version? === opteek snickers [06:06] TTilus, I enabled all 200 switches in the gnome mixer, and it turned out that Head Phone Jack Sense was unchecked, and for some reason muted my output [06:06] JDahl: when is the last time you updated the system? [06:06] updating the system is for losers [06:06] dabaR, a couple of nights ago [06:06] JDahl: didn't i say to check the mixer :D [06:06] JDahl: is it fixed? [06:06] i am running xfree 0.0.4 [06:06] dabaR, yes [06:06] TTilus, that's the one. tyvm [06:06] TTilus, indeed you did :S [06:06] 0.0.4? === el [n=jonah@207-224-75-54.mpls.qwest.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:07] opteek: thank you. Your opinion really matters to me, === deFrysk [n=deFrysk@i111223.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:07] opteek: it's a common problem (the .ICEauthority) === enntee [n=enntee@S0106000ae62b5163.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:08] nalioth, really? in ubuntu? ive never experienced it before.. [06:08] opteek: just switch consoles, rm it and proceed to login to your gui [06:08] JDahl: could it be that you have non-multiplexing sound, so if your laptop thinks input is on, then output is off? === el_toro [n=jonah@207-224-75-54.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:08] is it wise to update to breezy right now? i'm using hoary-backports as well [06:08] enntee, works fine for me, but ymmv [06:09] el_toro: good enough for me. apt-get time. === opteek bitchslaps dabaR with a giant trout [06:09] HaHa. [06:09] heh [06:09] TTilus, that could be... I dont think this audio driver has multiplexing [06:09] is there anyone here who uses breezy and GNOME? [06:10] many people [06:10] tons [06:10] the majority === bur[n] er [n=burner@c-67-173-243-73.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:10] noone want breezy and kde [06:10] would one of them please tell me how ALT-TAB works for them? what it shows during the process of doing an ALT-TAB? [06:10] can i ask again? [06:11] dooglus, it pulls up the nice alt+tab box and switches from app to app for me [06:11] i love useing streamtuner and xmms === oneifreak [n=oneifrea@142.66.74.4] has left #ubuntu [] === ozofai [n=gxmiuuhe@195.242.246.32] has joined #ubuntu === ozofai [n=gxmiuuhe@195.242.246.32] has left #ubuntu [] [06:11] el_toro: if you hold ALT and press TAB over and over, does it show you each window in turn? === logical_mark [n=ubuntu@24-179-13-40.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === harrison [n=harrison@ip68-11-240-218.br.no.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:12] dooglus, yes [06:12] dooglus, erm...not quite...it just highlights each window with a black border, it doesn't pull them to the front or anything [06:12] has anyone here tried running mathematica under some sort of emulator? [06:12] el_toro: I took some pictures of what it does for me. here I am switching to my 'gaim' window. I've hit TAB and am still holding alt: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/Screenshot-67.png [06:12] and here I am after I let go of ALT: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/Screenshot-68.png [06:12] hi folks.. does anybody have dosbox running under breezy? [06:13] I get a segmentation fault === Antioch_ [n=Antioch@119.33.244.43.ap.yournet.ne.jp] has joined #Ubuntu [06:13] el_toro: as you can see, it completely blats the window with black... this is a bug then? [06:13] Hey I have a friend who just tried to book the LIVE version of Ubuntu on his Acer laptop. It is stoping right after the message, uncompressing linux... is it b/c he was using an external firewire cd/dvd rom? [06:13] guys!!! please help me!!! how can i install tar.gz files on my ubuntu? [06:13] *book - boot [06:13] dooglus, got me, i can't reproduce it--just gives me the regular black outline === marius__ [n=marius@cpe-024-074-088-247.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:13] cx22: you can extract a .tar.gz file by running "tar xfz file.tar.gz" [06:13] why cant i insert ndiswrapper module? it returns with: FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted (yes i used sudo) [06:13] cx22, why would you want to do that ?? [06:14] tar.gz files are just like zip it's just an archive stuff [06:14] cx22: you're up-to-date with the breezy updates of a few hours ago? [06:14] better question to ask is what do you want to do with it? [06:14] logical_mark, it can be many things === BenderNZ [i=bender@nz1.recoil.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu [06:14] ^-- sorry, that was meant for el_toro [06:14] logical_mark, but I would suggest downloading and burning another image [06:14] !tell cx22 about cli [06:14] logical_mark, perhaps run a checksum before burning [06:14] opteek - only a noob a to linux, not diagnosing a problem. I have booted this same cd on 3 computers [06:14] dooglus, well im not sure what was updated a few hours ago..but afaik yes [06:15] el_toro: a new kernel, for one. === liz [n=mona@203.213.220.30] has joined #ubuntu [06:15] dooglus, ah, yes got those [06:15] uname -r ==> 2.6.12-9-386 [06:15] Does ubuntu have xfce4 in it's sources.list? [06:15] Wow, shsf is spectacularly buggy. [06:15] hello everyone [06:15] ice_1963, yes [06:15] opteek, have you heard of a problem booting off a firewire cd drive === robbkidd [n=robbkidd@ip70-179-76-249.dc.dc.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [] [06:16] hihi - is today a good day to upgrade from hoary to breezy? (ie is there any major issues in the release packages today) [06:16] ok that's good [06:16] hmm..looks like dosbox is not a well supported package. [06:16] BenderNZ: not as far as I can tell, but tomorrow might be, so why not wait until it's reelased? [06:16] logical_mark, no experience with firewire [06:16] BenderNZ: today is the worst I've seen breezy at for a while [06:16] BenderNZ, no major issues today (on my box that is) [06:16] ick === [Chameleon] [n=Paul@000f660c9c52.click-network.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:16] opteek, thanks anyway. [06:17] I went to apt-get dist-upgrade anyways and got dependancy issues for ubuntu-desktop [06:17] guess I'll wait a bit longer ;( [06:17] Has anyone had issues booting ubuntu from a firewire cd/dvd rom drive? [06:17] BenderNZ: Yep, that's right. [06:17] cx22: why would you want to? === BenderNZ wants mono and f-spot and so on === vbgunz [n=sysadmin@uslec-66-255-127-2.cust.uslec.net] has joined #ubuntu === test34- [n=test34@unaffiliated/test34] has joined #ubuntu === r0d [n=r0d@CPE-65-30-208-109.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:18] hello everyone! === flodine [n=flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu [] === pheng [n=guest@222.126.41.10] has joined #ubuntu === hery [n=hery@210.213.145.47] has joined #ubuntu === Deserir [n=green_dr@226gis182.gulftel.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:18] I have severakl quick questions... asking for info more than direction... [06:18] hi hello [06:19] i want to install AdobeReader, FlashPlayer and Java environment === HerdsmanMarengo [n=hose@69.0.73.53] has joined #ubuntu [06:19] this is hero [06:19] can't seem to know how. [06:19] i have totally no idea about ubuntu [06:19] can u bemy frend [06:19] cx22: i386? [06:19] were u fropm [06:19] Ubuntu 5.04 i386 [06:20] hery: try #ubuntu-offtopic === hery [n=hery@210.213.145.47] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:20] 1. My grub menu on breezy has many different Ubuntu installs all pointing to different kernels... 2. Is there a way to right click a file and login into it as admin? 3. Why when Breezy starts up all these partition and disk drive windows open? [06:20] cx22: check out the wiki [06:20] cx22: Start at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/java === Stalwart [n=Stalwart@217.199.118.118] has joined #ubuntu [06:20] so apt-get and install it [06:20] i've downloaded those files and can't seem to know how to install it [06:20] aah. problem solved... I got rid of the black boxes. :) [06:20] Which files, the .bin ones? [06:20] apt-get wont work [06:21] vbgunz, you mean when you login and GNOME starts up... it auto opens some windows.. Like all the usb drives.. [06:21] i've already installed wine... thanks to crimsum [06:21] I ran "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" earlier and that removed the Module section from my xorg.conf. Putting it back in fixed the problem. === Hendric [n=haxor@210.213.138.69] has joined #ubuntu === thorax12 [n=thorax12@ip24-253-71-141.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:21] i'll check the wiki... be back later [06:22] yes it opens all the drives... [06:22] cx22: Click the JavaPackageBuildNewVersions link. === esac [n=esac@unaffiliated/esac] has joined #ubuntu [06:22] dance monkey boy, dance === AngryParsley_ [n=AngryPar@ool-457619d7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:22] dr_willis... this never happened on Hoary... I just noticed this with Breezy [06:22] yeah apt-get install wine [06:22] i got problem with my RAID drive being detected by ubuntu as 2 separate drives.. how can i mount this RAID drive? (my ubuntu is on an IDE drive and i want to mount my RAID) === kairu0 [n=steve@YahooBB219201195046.bbtec.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:22] anyone know which repository quodlibet is in? [06:22] Hey if I want to add a drive to fstab so it will be automatocly mounted and the drive is, /dev/hda1 , how do I insert that into fstab? [06:22] dooglus: same thing happened to me awhile back [06:22] vbgunz, thats by designe i think. :P actually I just booted and it DIDENT do it this time.. I think you can close the drive windows and it may rember that. save the session perhaps. [06:23] Hendric: Linux doesn't support that sort of software raid. [06:23] bur[n] er: did you report it? [06:23] bur[n] er: if not, I will. it's a bug, right? [06:23] its not a software raid.. im using promise raid PCI card [06:23] logical_mark: copy an existing line, change the details [06:23] Nautilus has really become a lot easier to use in Breezy! [06:23] dooglus: all you ;) I think it's well known, but check bugzilla [06:23] Hendric: Yes, that's software raid. [06:23] all me? [06:23] I tried saving the sessions before but haven't tried lately... I just downloaded some updates and maybe that helped... I'll need to check... === agentofbsd [n=chatzill@202.147.31.189] has joined #ubuntu [06:23] Hendric: it sues software in the card's bios and a proprietary windows driver. [06:23] dooglus: it's all you to follow up on reporting ;) [06:23] vi /etc/apt/sources.list that's it [06:24] dooglus: in other words, i'm too lazy right now [06:24] so there's no way i can mount this? [06:24] bur[n] er: against the xorg-server package? [06:24] Hendric: *maybe* promise have a closed-source driver.. check their website... [06:24] dooglus: xserver-xorg rather [06:24] xserver-xorg I mean [06:25] this is a bit annoying... I am new to Linux and appreciate the whole logging into everything with a password... Is there a way to maintain that *but* have the ability to login into a terminal from a folder? [06:25] another question. is there a way to have a webcam chat on ubuntu? like YM on windows... [06:25] yes [06:26] Hendric: look in Applications > Internet > Gnome Meeting [06:26] vbgunz: "login into a terminal from a folder"? [06:26] Hendric: Not until either ym is fixed (the Linux apckage is severaly broken) or gaim-vv is useable. [06:26] bob r /u in Debian? [06:26] gaim-vv?? does it support webcam?? [06:26] yes === No1Viking [i=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.cust.port80.se] has joined #ubuntu [06:26] bur[n] er: well, I can't find it, if it is well known. === cafuego_ wonders what's up with all the yahoo messenger questions [06:26] ice_1963: I use both, yes [06:26] OMG.. gonna try dat.. [06:26] Hendric: No, it WILL support webcams. [06:26] yeah... sort of like Command line here... if I right click a folder, within the menu would be "command line here" or something similar [06:27] me to lol [06:27] Hendric: It's not ready yet. [06:27] I think kopete supports msn webcams now (or very soon) [06:27] ah ok [06:27] but sid will do === gigaclon [n=gigaclon@68.191.5.12] has joined #ubuntu === cafuego_ thinks looking at spotty youths on irc is not a great idea at the best of times :-P [06:27] should i find a linux driver for my webcam first? or d program got some generics to that?? === dooglus sniggers at cafuego_ [06:28] i was doing an ubuntu hardware report, and went to upload it and it failed, so it saved it to my desktop and asked me to email it somewhere. i forgot where to email it to. anybody know ? [06:28] Hendric: Depends, if it supports v4l it should be fine. [06:28] esac: heh, did you file a bug on anjuta? [06:29] its just a biot annoying and much of it is my fault but being new I have to refresh my memory and navigate to a folder through Nautilus... Then I have to launch a terminal and bite the path bit for bit... It would just be simpler if I could command line directly from the folder *if this is possible* [06:29] It should be, but I am still a n00b [06:29] bob2: yep === phrizer [n=lance@60-234-134-230.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #Ubuntu [06:29] vbgunz: install nautilus-open-terminal [06:29] bob2: obviously i figured that the issue was that my project name had spaces in it, but it wasnt very clear as to why [06:29] ok apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal [06:29] going for it [06:30] I can't compile a certain XMMS plugin coz it says.. *** The glib-config script installed by GLIB could not be found <-- itried to install all packages related to that on synaptics.. but still got the same error.. how can i fix this? [06:30] bob2: thank you so much... iw as loooking for that package :) [06:30] esac: right, just asking because I somehow ended up getting the bug report === se1 [n=seb@adsl-66-159-195-206.dslextreme.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:30] Hendric: install libglib1.20dev [06:30] Hendric: you need glib-bleh-dev [06:30] bob2 to the rescue === da_bon_bon [n=rohan@unaffiliated/dabonbon/x-000000001] has joined #ubuntu [06:31] bob2: do you do development on anjuta, or do you just reassign as appropriate ? [06:31] hi [06:31] i'm trying to install skype [06:31] but get [06:31] skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed [06:31] idea? [06:31] sel in breezy ? [06:32] no 'dpkg -i /tmp/...deb' [06:32] any recommendations on a media player that will handle MOV files? [06:32] totem? [06:32] hey bob2, thanks but now what? I don't have it in my right click menu nor can I find it in the Nautilus menus... checking again... [06:32] Lifetaker: vlc? [06:32] sel is using breezy ? [06:32] Lifetaker: any of them with libquicktim [06:32] esac: oh, I'm just the default person for (some) bug reports when the "real" authors haven't come forward; it'll have to wait for a MOTU to forward it upstream, I guess [06:32] libquicktime [06:32] Lifetaker: mplayer [06:32] vbgunz: you may need to log out and in again [06:32] MOTU ? [06:32] hoary [06:32] okay... I'll start looking at those.. thanks [06:32] ok will check... will let you know! === hou5ton [n=hou5ton@n14-99-152-206.tranquility.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:33] ubotu tell esac about MOTU [06:33] libqt3c-mt is installed sel ? [06:33] yes [06:33] ubotu tell da_bon_bon about MOTU [06:34] !+msg the bot [06:34] from memory, msg the bot is please message the bot in private, he accepts private messages from registered nicknames(/msg nickserv help register). In order for everyone to get better help, do not clutter the channel with many !commands, please. /msg ubotu keyword, or especially if you do not know whether some factoid exists. === vbgunz [n=sysadmin@uslec-66-255-127-2.cust.uslec.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:34] ok. sorry :) [06:34] yeah geesh da_bon_bon ! === mode/#ubuntu [+o Amaranth] by ChanServ [06:35] 0724.17 Johanna: hetkinen! [06:35] 0724.39 Johanna: mul on tn palkkapiv :) [06:35] 0725.09 Ville: heh :) [06:35] rrh [06:35] thanks bob2... it partially worked... for example... I can only access the terminal if I right click a folder in the right pane *but* I do not get the option if I click on a folder in the left pane *tree* [06:35] is it possible to get that behaviour? === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:36] vbgunz: don't know, I don't use nautilus [06:36] the sidebar is special [06:36] what you use? [06:36] Amaranth: where you been? === MacVegie [n=MacVegie@c220-237-154-176.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [06:36] my shell almost exclusively [06:36] nalioth: college [06:36] apt-cache search glib <-- says i have glib installed... but why did i get this error: glib-config not found ??? [06:36] Hendric: because you didn't install libglib1.2-dev [06:37] Hendric: you need the dev package of glib installed [06:37] !spam [06:37] You can have Spam, spam, spam rat and spam or spam, spam, spam, spam, sausages and spam or rat, spam, spam, spam, eggs and spam or spam, spam spam, spam, spam and spam. [06:37] Hendric: also, apt-cache search says nothing at all about whether you have a package installed [06:37] man... thanks for that much but I would really like to see that command on the left menu... :} [06:37] bloody vikings [06:37] "But I dont Like spam!" [06:37] cafuego_: hehe, where is that from again? === chris [n=chris@c-24-15-251-208.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:38] dabaR: monty python [06:38] ok.. what will i apt-get to install the dev package of glib??? [06:38] new amarok version is out, should be in breezy soon -- YAY [06:38] Hendric: then you'have have libglib-dev installed. [06:38] Hendric: bob2 has told you twice [06:38] laptop-net uses arp to determine the mapping. what is arp, and how do i tell the arp address to use for it ? [06:38] Octane: you really think it will be in breezy soon? you mean backports maybe? [06:38] i will pay 50 dollars to whomever can help me solve my OpenOffice problem: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=356488 [06:39] esac: arp is how your computer finds out the MAC addresses of machines around it [06:39] OMG its installing now.. yey! [06:39] tnx a lot [06:39] dabaR: its an official release, no reason for why it shouldnt be in breezy since breezy's version right now is 1.3.1 and this is 1.3.2 [06:39] hey guys! it won't work [06:39] waaaaa done with libglib-dev but still got the error [06:39] Octane: it would have to break upstream version freeze to be allowed in [06:39] if i extract the tar.gz files, would it automatically install? [06:39] Octane: except that main is frozen [06:39] esac: I guess laptop-net uses it to find out what machines are physically on the network with it, so it knows ehere it is === barosl^win [i=barosl@222.99.186.19] has joined #ubuntu [06:40] Hendric: libglib1.20dev [06:40] oopss.. its another error.. sorry [06:40] bob2: how do i tell what to put in it then ? [06:40] Octane: we're evaluating if it can be allowed in [06:40] if i extract the tar.gz files, would it automatically install? [06:40] its gtk now... [06:40] crimsun: ahh i see, lots of bugfixes [06:40] cx22: tar.gz of what? [06:40] cx22: no, it just extracts that tarball [06:40] octane why don't you officially pay Ubuntu support line for support? They need it and you need support :) [06:40] if i extract the tar.gz files, would it automatically install the files on it? [06:40] cx22: no [06:40] java and adobe reader [06:40] vbgunz: $50? [06:40] Hendric: libgtk1.2-dev [06:40] vbgunz: thats a good idea and i might have to resort to that if i cant get damn openoffice working... i seem to be the only one with this problem [06:40] wat is the dev package of gtk?? so that i could apt-get it... [06:40] cx22, use evince [06:41] cx22, iso adobe reader [06:41] Hendric: as above === ztonzy [n=ztonzy@blender/artist/ztonzy] has joined #ubuntu [06:41] i've downloaded those files of adobereader and java on tar.gz files. how can i install it? what do i have to type on command? [06:41] waw its installing now.. hope i won't get another error === oolon [n=oolon@ool-44c44eca.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:41] dabar not sure what the support options are but if you're willing to pay they might be the best long term option... not sure of pricing but I think it might be worth it [06:41] deFrysk, where can i download it? [06:41] !evince [06:41] NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, deFrysk [06:42] oh geez [06:42] is it not in hoary ? [06:42] !info evince [06:42] single-issue support is very cheak [06:42] evince: (Document (postscript, pdf) viewer), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.1.9-0ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 189 kB, Installed size: 788 kB [06:42] im done! you guys rocks!!!.. tnx so much [06:42] ubuntu 5.04 [06:42] cx22, read what ubotu said [06:43] k. be back later [06:43] !tell cx22 about synaptic [06:43] !tell cx22 about apt-get [06:44] !tell cx22 about repositories [06:44] (just in case === bluekey [n=bluekey@d154-20-103-61.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:44] Octane: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends openoffice.org2-core ; sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2-core [06:44] http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2447 === mrkookz [n=john@203-173-10-17.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === QMario [n=qmario@cpe-68-201-249-213.houston.res.rr.com] has left #Ubuntu [] [06:44] http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2447 [06:44] se1: Please don't repeat yourself. [06:44] bob2: i have already perged all openoffice related crap, apt-get cleaned everything === Kaos`mm-Ezekiel [i=cam@shell1.best-shellz.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:45] purged* [06:45] Octane: try it, then paste the output of 'dpkg -S /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/javaldx' [06:45] Octane: you're on amd64, yes? [06:45] bob2: OK. [06:45] se1: find a version of skype for your version of ubuntu [06:46] bob2: yes sir i am === hitest [n=hitest@7conn226.rupert.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:47] god OO is a pig [06:47] sel, try the static tar.bz2 [06:47] bob2: it's supposed to be for ubuntu. [06:47] lol === KingBahamut is now known as KB|Sleepzor === Jeronimus [n=jero@thesdsl-03261.otenet.gr] has joined #ubuntu [06:47] bob2/defrysk: how can you see it's not for the right version? [06:47] defrysk: i will [06:47] se1: it's not for your version of ubuntu [06:47] ubuntu doesnt detect my intel nic [06:47] se1: because it Depends on a version libqt3-mt that is higher than what you have [06:48] Octane: what does "file /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/soffice.bin" print out? also, "file /bin/ls" [06:48] bob2: then why can't i upgrade my qt3-mt lib?! [06:48] doesnt it depend on a version lower than he has? [06:48] since I have no idea whaat file output for amd64 executables have === Mirussa [n=mirussa@c-67-166-123-104.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:49] bob2: T minus 7 mins till i get oo2 installed === CachorroDelMatoR [n=matheus@200165017204.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [06:49] [00:49] dan@dan:~/working$ file /bin/ls [06:49] /bin/ls: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [06:49] se1: not unless you upgrade to breezy === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === CachorroDelMatoR [n=matheus@200165017204.user.veloxzone.com.br] has left #ubuntu ["Fui] [06:50] dabaR: it Depends on 3:3.3.3.2, hoary has 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3. [06:50] dabaR: the .2 makes it a higher version [06:50] tho that version is ridiculous, anyway [06:50] 3 epichs [06:50] bob2: i believe you, but why / how would i find this out myself? [06:51] bob2: sometimes you can apt-get upgrade a package [06:51] has anybody tried kde 3.5 yet ? [06:51] how easy is it to partition and install ubuntu as a second os? [06:51] Kaos`mm-Ezekiel: very [06:51] bob2: but sometimes somehow you have to upgrade to breeze? === jrattner1 [n=jrattner@uhartford216092.hartford.edu] has joined #ubuntu [06:51] Kaos`mm-Ezekiel: it even lets you resize existing partitions to make room [06:51] is there somewhere that i could read how to do it? [06:51] bob2: where does it let you do that? [06:51] Please help, in Breezy, I have several additions to the grub boot menu. Several more options exist to log into what appears to be different kernels... is this a bug or is it OK and possible to log into Ubuntu with different Kernels? [06:51] se1: I used packages.ubuntu.com to find out what version of tha package existed in breezy [06:51] dabaR: hm? [06:51] vbgunz: it's fine [06:52] resize partitions. [06:52] vbgunz: you can remove the 2.6.10 ones if you want [06:52] dabaR: in the partitioner stage [06:52] hey guys. stil having problems here [06:52] dabaR: or so I hear, I've never installed ubuntu on a machine with windows on it [06:52] is that in the installer? [06:52] so, manually edit the partition table, and then what? [06:52] dabaR, if you choose the manual partitioning [06:52] Kaos`mm-Ezekiel: yes [06:52] cool [06:52] ok so leave only the latest ones correct? [06:52] I guess Ill just try. [06:52] in all that i've read, there was nothing there that would show me how to install a tar.gz file [06:52] vbgunz: 2.6.12, yeah [06:53] ok === mort [i=mort@p548596AF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [06:53] cx22: right, because it's ike asking how to install a .zip file [06:53] cx22: it depends on what is inside it [06:53] tritium: you tried this, or know for a fact? [06:53] What are you doing with a tar.gz, didn't you want Java? [06:53] now, how do i run whats on it? theres no .deb file. no .exe files either [06:53] dabaR, yes, I've tried it [06:53] (and know for a fact) [06:54] ok did it, thanks bob2 [06:54] ok [06:54] i've extracted the files into another folder. what do i do next? [06:54] cx22, what the name of the package ? === jadex [n=azael@200.55.140.189] has joined #ubuntu [06:54] cx22: What are you installing? === locomorto [n=locomort@unaffiliated/locomorto] has joined #ubuntu [06:54] i found this on a forum... "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "I can't configure Slackware". [06:54] lolx === _Caleb_ [n=ichigo@cpe-065-191-209-077.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:55] na [06:55] Hendric> lol [06:55] AdbeRdr701_linux_enu.tar.gz === esac [n=esac@unaffiliated/esac] has joined #ubuntu [06:55] It means humanity to others === jadex [n=azael@200.55.140.189] has left #ubuntu ["There] [06:55] install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz [06:55] Hendric: The funny thing is, that was probably posted by a kid who wasn't even BORN when I ran slackware. [06:55] Hendric: haha [06:55] yeah i guess so cafuego [06:55] ok my system keeps randomly hanging, just with normal use. are there any steps i can take to figure this out, get it debugged, whatever ? [06:55] cx22: or you could you use the firefox popup thingy? [06:55] and the one is jre-1_5_0_04-linux-i586-rpm.bin [06:55] cx22: Both of thsoe have prebuilt packages. === _Caleb_ [n=ichigo@cpe-065-191-209-077.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [06:55] how? [06:55] cx22: much easier to install [06:56] cx22: dont use packages that are not for your particular distribution [06:56] over 100 bugs have been added to the ubuntu bugzilla in the last 24 hours! [06:56] cx22: just go to a site that needs flash [06:56] but what is for my particular distribution? [06:56] cx22: You downloaded the wrong jre file. You want the one that does NOT have rpm in the filename. [06:56] bob2: okay re-insatlling now [06:56] cx22, please don't advise others to use non-ubuntu packages unless you're willing to provide support when their systems break [06:56] cx22: and use the magic toolbar [06:57] dooglus: not all bugs block release, fortunately === creart [n=creart@x1-6-00-0a-e4-48-66-2f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu [06:57] cx22: There is a jre1.5....bin file. Fetch that. NOT the .rpm.bin [06:57] be back later... [06:57] ok cafuego, i'll go download another file of that type [06:57] why would i spend more time on slackware if i can get and do what i need with ubuntu... [06:57] bob2: sorry to be directing this to you, but you seem like the senior guru here. my system has been freezing. i'll alt tab to another program and then it just hangs. i cant ctrl-alt-f1 or anything. can i turn on logging, tracing, help to get this debugged and solved or what ? [06:57] cx22: Whn that's downloaded, install 'java-package' and run it. the wiki is really quite clear. === sugoruyo [n=george@ppp22-adsl-97.ath.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu === creart [n=creart@x1-6-00-0a-e4-48-66-2f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu [06:57] [00:57] dan@dan:~/working/kmplayer-0.9.0c$ file /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/soffice.bin [06:57] /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/soffice.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [06:57] Hendric: Coz it's not leet. [06:57] cx22, I think you need to read all of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation before you get totally lost === a1exey [n=a1exey@85.192.138.58] has joined #ubuntu === marc` [n=marc@CPE-144-137-164-227.qld.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === creart [n=creart@x1-6-00-0a-e4-48-66-2f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu [06:58] hi, can someone tell me if i can the kubuntu dvd as a repo at ubuntu? [06:58] Any ideas why after the dist-upgrade my system won't get to gdm ? I get an error "blue screen" and X doesn't start ... [06:58] sugoruyo: missing a verb [06:58] haha [06:59] go openoffice === Plazgoth [i=plazgoth@c-24-2-58-198.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:59] Breezy system... [06:59] looooooooool [06:59] bob2: here are all the outputs for everything you asked me to do: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2448 [06:59] Hello [06:59] sry, i want to add it [06:59] Hello [06:59] i need wordstar to be leet... whew [06:59] Entranced: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and just say yes to everything [06:59] there's my verb === AngryParsley_ is now known as AngryParsley [06:59] thnx bob [06:59] sugoruyo: Yeah, apt-cdrom ought to be able to, I think. [06:59] what devilry is module-assistant? just when I thought I knew make-kpkg Debian invents a new way to build kernel modules... [06:59] how? [06:59] bob2: i see... the openoffice is compiled for intel? [06:59] bob2, I thought it was the udev thing [06:59] Is there a special channel for super-noobs to ask questions? [07:00] heh, JDahl [07:00] How long does it take for Free Cd's to usually ship? [07:00] Entranced: oh, could be === Madeye [n=Jad@213.186.177.235] has joined #Ubuntu [07:00] sugoruyo: 'sudo apt-cdrom add' [07:00] Plazgoth: here [07:00] Octane: yeah, I guess OO2 is still not portable to amd64 [07:00] Plazgoth, you just got to the right place! [07:00] which is suck [07:00] bob2, hmmm.. same thing with Sid ...grr [07:00] Entranced, when was the last time you updated? [07:00] OK can the preview release be installed on a fresh system? [07:00] 4 hours ago... [07:00] Plazgoth, yes [07:00] bob2: I started #ubuntu-leet [07:00] Yes, Plazgoth [07:00] Octane: where does ia32-libs put it's libraries? [07:01] bob2 then what the hell is ubuntu doing downloading intel packages to an amd64 machine [07:01] jrattner1: That's described on the pages where you order. 4-6 weeks, but now you will have to expect longer delivery times due to the new release. Atleast that's how I understand it. [07:01] cafuego_: lolz! [07:01] Hmmm...I ran into an issue when it got to installing linux-386 [07:01] bob2: look, openoffice.org (1) is also a problem [07:01] bob2: The amd64 apckages work ok though (chroot etc) [07:01] [01:00] dan@dan:~/working/kmplayer-0.9.0c$ file /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin [07:01] /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped [07:01] It told me to look atbootproto.log [07:01] Octane: OO1 on amd64 was just the i386 package with some shims to make it run under amd64 [07:01] cafuego_: my chroot is 32bit [07:01] BlueEagle so is it worth it to wait for the CD or should i just download the new release when it comes out? [07:01] Octane: what does "uname -a" print? [07:01] nice thanks cafuego [07:01] tritium, 4 hours ago...dist-upgrade..the kernel seems to be causing problems..? [07:01] bob2: but i cant get openoffice.org (1) working either [07:01] BlueEagle, are there any differences between the two? [07:01] But there was nothing about any error in there [07:01] Octane: I run OOo2 without an explicit chroot, it runs fine. === _creart [n=creart@x1-6-00-0a-e4-48-66-2f.k136.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu [07:01] Octane: Mind you, breezy. [07:01] bob2: Linux dan.theidiots.org 2.6.12-8-amd64-generic #1 Thu Sep 15 22:59:26 BST 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux [07:02] Entranced, not here...which version do you have? [07:02] jrattner1: No more hoary CDs are shipped afaik. [07:02] Octane: do you get the same error when running OO2 now? [07:02] cafuego_: breezy here to [07:02] Kernel 2.6.12-9 [07:02] [01:01] dan@dan:~$ ooffice2 [07:02] Breezy [07:02] /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/javaldx: error while loading shared libraries: libz.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [07:02] /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/soffice.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libz.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [07:02] BlueEagle, I mean for the new release.. Is there any difference between the CD and the download ISO? [07:02] jrattner1: Wether it's worth waiting 4-6 weeks? How am I supposed to answer that? I don't know how much time you've got. === _creart is now known as creart [07:02] jrattner1: The iso provided at this time is preview software. [07:02] Octane: hmmm [07:02] Entranced, 2.6.12-9.14 ? [07:03] Octane: Mine runs fine (last update 2 hours ago) apart from "javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment!" [07:03] if i set a system restore, try to install ubuntu, partition and mess up, can i restore fully? [07:03] whatever just came out [07:03] Octane: can you put the output of "dpkg -L ia32-libs" somewhere? [07:03] jrattner1: As far as I know there are no difference between the distributed ISO and the CD. [07:03] cafuego_: im upt o date as well [07:03] a windows XP system restore you mean Kaos`mm-Ezekiel ? [07:03] yeah [07:03] Kaos`mm-Ezekiel: if you write to the partition table, you've written to the partition table === edwwq [n=edwwq@219.134.72.70] has joined #ubuntu [07:03] BlueEagle, alright that all I wanted to know [07:03] sorry didnt think [07:03] bob2: http://dan.theidiots.org/etc/ia32.txt [07:03] jrattner1: (apart from the obvious fact that the one is on a physical CD already and the other needs to be burned) [07:03] bob2: /lib32 and /usr/lib32 [07:03] does anybody know how i can help debug my system randomly hanging ? === sn0n [n=rob@c-24-4-50-62.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:04] No.. :P you fail to understand that Linux is its own Operating sstem . it will want its own hard drive/partition. XP in theory wont see it at all. [07:04] the partition isnt the problem [07:04] anyone here 'approve' orders for shipit ? [07:04] its the messing up of the install somehow [07:04] But it doesn't contain a libz [07:04] Octane: oh, scandal [07:04] sn0n: they mostly happen automatically [07:04] cafuego_: that seems odd [07:04] If the install is done right - XP wont even notice. [07:04] but /usr/lib32 and /usr/lib are in my ld.so.conf [07:04] cafuego_: do you know if it used to? [07:04] 'dpkg -L ia32-libs | grep libz' -> nuffin [07:04] libz seems like a pretty basic lib to keep around [07:04] there isnt people that approve them ? cuz mine says 'Waiting for approval' (even thou i know breezy cds arent shipping yet) [07:04] care to elaborate fn'dr_willis [07:04] sn0n: how many did you order? [07:04] cafuego_: libz is from zlibg package [07:04] esac: How "random" is the hanging? [07:05] 45 PC (same as last time ) and then 5 - 64bit and 5 ppc [07:05] Octane: OO wants the i386 version of libz [07:05] Kaos`mm-Ezekiel, what more to be said.. when the install is done right.. XP in no way will be affected. [07:05] Octane: The thing is, /usr/lib/openoffice2/program/soffice.bin *should* be a bash shells cript, so it ought to complain about libs *at* *all* [07:05] Octane: Did you install the OOO2 i386 or the amd64 apckages? [07:05] brilliant, thankyou. just how is right? [07:05] BlueEagle: its happened 5 times today. its always doing different things. sometimes an ifconfig in terminal, sometimes alt-tab to another program, sometimes typing up an email [07:05] i give them away at school.. and people love them.. [07:05] s/to/not/ [07:05] cafuego_: i installed whats in the repos, which is apparently intel [07:05] cept the one lab aide.. lol.. [07:05] I just tried doing a fresh install of Breezy and it failed at doing the linux-386 part. I have an Intel PC. I looked at /target/var/log/bootproto.log but there ws nothing usefull in there. Anyone have any ideas? [07:06] but the teachers love em , and classmates too [07:06] esac: hoary or breezy? [07:06] Kaos`mm-Ezekiel, depends on your system :P normally the installer for ubuntu handles it all. I perfer to use a seperate hard drive just for linux however. [07:06] Plazgoth: are you sure the cd is ok? [07:06] Octane: 'COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l openoffice.org2' === dabaR [n=dbernar1@wnpgmb02dc1-56-23.dynamic.mts.net] has left #ubuntu [] [07:06] thanks === jesusfish [n=trevor@CPE0040f44854df-CM000a739b46f7.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:06] BlueEagle: breezy [07:06] I just downloaded it and burned it. Anyway to check? [07:06] Octane: What version is it? [07:06] esac: 386 or 686 kernel? [07:06] anyone here know how to build a kernel with gcc-4.0? [07:06] guys, I have problem with to many application, getting similar error like "invalid ELF header" for .so file? [07:06] any idea? [07:06] Plazgoth: if you boot with "expert" mode, you should be able to select a "verify cd" option or so [07:07] or how to fix version magic [07:07] jesusfish: Any reason you think that would be a good idea? [07:07] Madeye: is your disk corrupt? [07:07] bob2, no [07:07] when is breezy's release date? [07:07] How do you boot with expert mode? [07:07] jesusfish; Compile your module with gcc 3.4 [07:07] cafuego_: nothing listed i dont think... http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2449 [07:07] BlueEagle: 686-smp [07:07] Madeye: your linker disagrees [07:07] jrattner1, check the topic [07:07] cafuego: is that how I get rid of version magic errors? [07:07] Plazgoth: type expert and hit enter at the first prompt [07:07] jesusfish: yes. [07:07] esac: intel or amd dual processor system? [07:07] jrattner1: /topic [07:07] Ok will try that [07:08] Octane: So the package sustem thinks oo2 isn't installed at all! [07:08] BlueEagle: Mobile Pentium 4 3.06 GHz HT (not Pentium M) === linner [n=kelley@71.243.221.228] has joined #ubuntu [07:08] she's baaa-ack [07:08] I dont see it in the topic [07:08] bob2, how to make sure if it's the disk or the system ? [07:08] Octane: So... what package does your '/usr/lib/openoffice2/program/soffice.bin' belong to? [07:08] esac: dual mobile processors? o.O [07:08] cafuego_: openoffice.org2-core or is it -common i believe [07:08] Madeye: try running "debsums" and see if it complains [07:09] BreezyUpgrade notes dont say the release date [07:09] BlueEagle: well a single pentium 4, HT, but yeah :) [07:09] jrattner1: in IRC type /topic [07:09] jrattner1, topic sais tho [07:09] tritium, I think I have 2.6.12.15 kernel [07:09] cafuego_: openoffice.org2 is just a metapackage [07:09] Octane: Hmm. 'sudo apt-get install openoffice.org2' [07:09] Entranced, I don't think so [07:09] esac: Why are you running a smp kernel on a single processor system? === _Caleb_ [n=ichigo@cpe-065-191-209-077.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:09] Octane: let it pull in whatever it tinks it needs === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu === pitti [n=pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu [07:09] BlueEagle: HT [07:09] tritium, just looked in Synaptic [07:09] cafuego_: youre right some pkgs are missing, but im telling you this is gonna just happen again [07:09] Where in the topid [07:09] esac: It might be local apic that bites you, but it would be the first time I heard an intel processor with borked apic. [07:10] I dont see it at all [07:10] cafuego_: i just removed some ooo2 packages to help bob2 debug [07:10] jrattner1, geez [07:10] Octane: I swear, it runs fine here. If you have the same pkgs, it should run fine there too. [07:10] Octane: you should only have removed one, which was reinstalled immediately [07:10] ahh, ofcourse hyper threading processors. [07:10] Entranced, you probably saw linux-image-386, or something [07:10] I'm not even kidding [07:10] i dont see any date in the entire topic [07:10] jrattner1, sorry they took the rel.date out , its oct 13 [07:10] BlueEagle: I hear of it happening all the time, especially with via-rhine nics [07:10] anyone here successfully used YM (for windows) using Wine???? [07:10] oh sick I wonder if it will have kde 3.5 :) [07:10] cafuego_: here give me 2 mins [07:11] tritium, yeah [07:11] what do i install to compile my own kernel ? === kwolf [n=kwolf@wsip-68-15-185-14.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:11] Entranced, linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 is at 2.6.12-9.14 [07:11] bob2: Well, then I'm way off track anyways. Haven't owned an intel processor since... ehh... in a ver long time. [07:11] esac: build-essential and kernel-package and fakeroot [07:11] tritium, yup [07:11] esac, linux-source, build essential ? [07:11] Entranced, hence, not .15 [07:11] esac: you don't often need to compile it, tho; the ubuntu one includes basically everything you could want [07:11] tritium, that is what I have at this point [07:11] ok [07:11] tritium, it is all weird [07:11] have you rebooted? [07:11] yup [07:12] and got the nice blue screen === ice_1963 [n=gary@pcp02171155pcs.brghtn01.mi.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === mort [i=mort@p548596AF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu [] [07:12] bob2: for some reason i remember having these random hangs with gentoo, and i compiled something with apm/apic out and it worked, so i just wanted to take a look [07:12] I had the same thing happen in Sid [07:12] Entranced, can you boot into rescue mode (single user)? [07:12] I can try [07:12] the thing it it just doesn't start X [07:13] esac: you can disable apic, lapic and/or acpi without a recompile [07:13] cafuego: any idea how to get OSS to build with 3.4? [07:13] cafuego_ back to square 1 :) [07:13] Can you switch to a v.c., Entranced ? [07:13] Entranced, did you keep the gdm settings of hoary or used the mainatainer settings of breezy ? [07:13] Just curious. are you guys talking about problems installing linux-686 [07:13] esac: try noapic, nolapic and acpi=off at the kernel boot line [07:13] cafuego_: openoffice.org2-core 1.9.129-0.1ubuntu1-0ubuntu1 [07:13] jesusfish: OSS? === bbwolf [n=rr@202.84.114.78] has joined #ubuntu [07:13] bob2: would that just drain my battery really dang fast, or is that something else ? [07:13] esac: Well, that was my thought aswell, but as I said, I've never heard of an intel processor having trouble with apic. [07:13] kwolf, post install [07:13] cafuego: ya, sound drivers [07:13] deFrysk, I used Breezy from the start ie. Colony 3 [07:13] Octane: Yep, that's the version I have, too. [07:14] esac: or did you mean acpi? [07:14] osslinux: version magic '2.6.12 preempt K8 gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.12 preempt K8 gcc [07:14] -3.4' [07:14] Entranced, and upgraded tu current ? [07:14] esac: disabling acpi could mean your battery runs down quicker, but I doubt the other two options would have a noticable effect [07:14] yup [07:14] jesusfish: The ones in the kernel or the payware ones? [07:14] dont remember [07:14] bob2: k [07:14] ic. I'm having touble installing linux-686 on a system that was dist-upgraded to breezy [07:14] cafuego: payware [07:14] jesusfish: what are you trying to compile? [07:14] and have a blue sreen ? [07:14] esac: Because broken acpi is more bios dependant. You might want to check for upgrades from your motherboard manufacturer. [07:14] cafuego: it was working [07:14] sccreen? [07:14] bob2: any more ideas on what i can do or no? [07:14] I had breezy working for about a week or two with no problems [07:14] jesusfish: Probably export CC=gcc-3.4 and then build 'em [07:14] bob2: oss modules [07:14] Octane: that is very very odd [07:14] Entranced, I've not seen a blue screen in linux, only windows [07:14] hehe [07:14] cafuego: I did export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 === sophie_ [n=sophie@ip062.195-51-69.Sogetel.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:15] it was the ncurses [07:15] if my dsl modem functions as a router, does that mean i can't connect a regular wi-fi router to it? [07:15] Entranced, if you have a screen of any colour x works [07:15] Octane: but if installing openoffice2.org doesn't get you a working openoffice2, that's a bug [07:15] BROKEN_LADDER: no [07:15] Entranced, oic [07:15] BROKEN_LADDER: u can cascade routers === sush [n=sush@ACB5FCEA.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:15] bob2: openoffice.org doesnt work for the same exact reason -- it says i dont have libz.so.1 [07:15] sophie_ the idiots at sbc told me wrong then. glad i didn't use their stupid cd. [07:15] Octane: I don't know where the i386 libz is supposed to come from, unfortunately [07:15] does anyone have access to the following package: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-686 [07:15] [01:15] dan@dan:~$ whereis libz.so.1 [07:15] libz.so: /usr/lib/libz.so.1 /usr/lib/libz.so [07:15] deFrysk, I had this happen on Debian Sid...and it had something to do with udev there [07:16] BROKEN_LADDER: its actually a nice way to set up a "safe" lan [07:16] Octane: right, that's the normal amd64 one [07:16] random play in MPlayer is slightly, not random [07:16] Entranced, try startudev and killall gdm and then restart gdm [07:16] kwolf: the restricted-modules for .9 havent been updated yet [07:16] kwolf, try updating again. They came a little after the kernel image [07:16] Is here on This server a german ubuntu chat to? [07:16] #ubuntu-de [07:16] thx [07:16] deFrysk, This is the first upgrade that fux0red my X === _Caleb_ [n=ichigo@cpe-065-191-209-077.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [07:17] Entranced, if its udev its easy === se1 [n=seb@adsl-66-159-195-206.dslextreme.com] has joined #ubuntu === damnhil [n=h@dsl-12-160-163-238.elltel.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:17] it's a pain in the a$$ [07:17] Octane: I'm doing a but more digging [07:17] kwolf, actually, I see what you mean...they're still unavailable for me too [07:17] Entranced, ctrl-alt-f2 [07:17] tritium: i cant upgrade to -9 amd64 restriced modules either ,just yet === sophie_ [n=sophie@ip062.195-51-69.Sogetel.net] has left #ubuntu [] === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu [07:17] thanks for your help bob2 / defrysk [07:17] bob2: thanks so much i really appreciate it. i have gotten no help in #ooo or on ubuntuforums or on bugzilla [07:17] static skype works [07:17] What are my options if the install CD fails the integrity check? [07:17] Entranced, if you updated 4 hours ago, you should have the fixed udev [07:17] Octane: which bug # is it? [07:17] upgrading to breeze in the meantime [07:17] Plazgoth: reburn it [07:18] That was fixed 2 days ago or so [07:18] Plazgoth: try it at a slower speed [07:18] bob2: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14474 [07:18] hmmm [07:18] bob2: i even emailed the dev who responded [07:18] Octane, probably on their way [07:18] how can I insert a horizontal line in Kword? [07:18] Thanks for checking. this happened the other night when a broken udev made it's wa into breezy. oh well [07:18] tritium, It workes with the older kernel no problems [07:18] Thanks bob2 I will try reburning [07:19] Entranced, I think you rebooted into the new kernel, and don't have matching linux-restricted-modules [07:19] tritium, after the kernel upgrade it seems to be broken [07:19] Just out of curiousity what is the general consensus install Breazy or Hoary? [07:19] Could be!Q === chavo [n=chavo@94.sub-70-196-79.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:19] Fairly new to linux, and brand new to ubuntu [07:19] plazgoth: Do you want something stable and useful or experimental and potentially frustrating? [07:20] Plazgoth, I would go for breezy at this point [07:20] stable and useful [07:20] Plazgoth: did you run a crc check on your cd's? [07:20] tritium, The following packages have been kept back: [07:20] linux-restricted-modules-686 [07:20] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. [07:20] plazgoth: Then go for the stable release (hoary) === ioMeD [n=eeiauy@82.208.156.165] has joined #ubuntu [07:20] Octane: is that you following up to the bug report? [07:20] Entranced: im having the same problem on amd64, just wait a while, -9 JUST came out [07:20] Entranced: yeah, they need to be rebuilt every time the kernel is updated [07:20] Entranced, do a dist-upgrade === ioMeD [n=eeiauy@82.208.156.165] has left #ubuntu [] [07:20] Entranced: and it hasn';t happened yet [07:20] bob2: no thats not me, I'm Dan Berger, i emailed the dev though === hondje [n=hondje@c-67-164-224-228.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:20] Octane: ah [07:20] bob2, ahhh I see [07:21] Entranced, yes, that's your problem. You need -9 [07:21] Octane: you followed all those steps in the report and it didn't work? [07:21] Entranced & deFrysk dist-upgrade wont work either [07:21] bob2: yes. === DJ_Mirage [n=djmirage@biggetje.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu [07:21] I know that === bwlang [n=bwlang@bb-66-55-211-238.gwi.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:21] bob2: our problems are slightly different though [07:21] I did dist-upgrade [07:21] and it doesn;t work [07:21] Octane I ran the integrity check in expert mode and one of the files in the 'x' directory failed MD5 [07:21] I just updated my breezy , so better not reboot now I understand ? [07:21] hehe [07:21] Entranced, it's not available yet [07:21] guess not === ColonelKernel is going to install breezy daily build and try out a vanilla 2.6.13+ kernel on it [07:21] dang :s [07:21] Kewl [07:21] gn [07:21] Plazgoth: ya i hate when that shit happens, thats why i only do network installs === sophie_ [n=sophie@ip062.195-51-69.Sogetel.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:22] Now I know what is up! === din is now known as din[zzz] [07:22] ColonelKernel: they don't call you Colonel Kernel for nothing [07:22] Octane: hrm === buesH [n=fsujqesi@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu === buesH [n=fsujqesi@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] === ColonelKernel stands at attention and salutes himself [07:22] deFrysk, yeah, wait until you get l-r-m to match your linux-image [07:22] This is a fresh install, can I install through the network? [07:22] LOL [07:23] heh [07:23] Plazgoth: if you have two computers on the same network or access to an FTP/HTTP server yes :) [07:23] i saw the same message [07:23] tritium, I will [07:23] tritium, what is in l-r-m that messes things up ? [07:23] I recompiled my kernel with oldconfig and now my wireless doesn't work. [07:23] Entranced, binary-only drivers like nvidia, ati, etc. Which video chipset do you have? [07:23] Nvidia :) [07:23] tritium: do you work in the nuclear business [07:23] Octane can you point me to some details on how to do it [07:23] brb in ONE second, i need to restart KDE. [07:23] sophie_, no comment [07:23] Hey, I upgraded to breezy, but I don't have the bootsplash. How do I configure it? [07:24] hehe [07:24] I disabled the bootsplash. It was rather ugly [07:24] tritium: I use Nvidia [07:24] dr_willis, true that ! [07:24] sophie_, okay, are you running breezy? [07:24] and I am being NICE :P [07:24] yeah, I'll probably turn it off to, just wandering why it's not on. [07:24] tritium: I love D20 === Dervish [n=Dervish@adsl-219-201-184.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:25] tritium: Nope === roNruo [n=eeiauy@82.208.156.165] has joined #ubuntu === roNruo [n=eeiauy@82.208.156.165] has left #ubuntu [] [07:25] sophie_, heavy water? [07:25] sophie_, then you have no worries === lp7413 [n=kataklys@h226.170.140.67.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:25] tritium: Yep but concenring breezy everything is buit with ggc4 propably the driver issue [07:25] haha [07:25] tritium: D2O yep [07:26] question for ya'll... === ppilTw [n=fsujqesi@202.137.118.118] has joined #ubuntu === ppilTw [n=fsujqesi@202.137.118.118] has left #ubuntu [] [07:26] sophie_, it's that the kernel was rebuilt, and now the restricted-modules need to be rebuilt as well === lp7413 [n=kataklys@h226.170.140.67.ip.alltel.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:26] i've just installed ubuntu 5.10... and am having x server problems.. so i'm trying to apt-get the updates [07:26] but it doesn't see my internet connection [07:26] tried a ping www.google.com and nothing came back [07:26] ...Well I'll do another dist-upgrade in few hours... hopefully that'll fix it [07:27] linner: dns problem [07:27] sophie_, why do you love D20, if I may ask? [07:27] linner, try pinging 4.2.2.1 [07:27] sophie_, well, i have dual boot on ... and windows sees it just fine === CaiN_SA [n=cain@rrba-146-65-181.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu [07:27] Entranced, ok [07:27] tritium: it taste exactly the same has water but is heavier [07:27] is tritum in water stable (module tritium's own half-life)? [07:27] Entranced, network is unreachable === Octane [n=octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:28] bob2: tritium is a beta (radio active) emeiter [07:28] sophie_: right === sirexas [n=mantas@office.idamas.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:28] but different isotops sometimes have different chemical properties [07:28] Downloading the Preview Install CD image.... [07:28] e.g. deuterium reacts more slowly === lucaas [n=LMX@h6n1c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu === Entranced is now known as Entranced_ZzZ [07:29] Is it easy to install Nvidia drivers with 5.10 Preview? [07:29] Knelix, yes [07:29] tritium: Good. :-) [07:29] bob2: actually D20 is stable it has to be activated by a neutron to become tritiated === bbwolf [n=rr@202.84.114.78] has left #ubuntu ["i] [07:30] How can I found out my MAC address from a shell during install? [07:30] sophie_: yeah, I know [07:30] Plazgoth: ifconfig [07:30] Octane: do you have libz32 installed? [07:30] Plazgoth, ifconfig === ksmurf [n=ksmurf@S0106000c76ba0623.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:30] returns nothinf === JustSteve [n=chatzill@ppp-69-221-17-182.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:30] Octane: er, lib32z1 [07:30] hello all [07:30] I tried to do ifup eth0 [07:30] Plazgoth, man ifconfig === tritium laughs at bbwolf's quit message [07:30] Plazgoth: than probably no nic configures === bimberi saw it too :) === killapop [n=allan@203.145.183.210] has left #ubuntu [] [07:31] anybody able to help me with why all games work except armyops? my othergames are 64bit games but when I try to run 32bit games opengl libs are not found === bbwolf [n=rr@202.84.114.78] has joined #ubuntu [07:31] bob2: no i do not === GoRoDeK [n=gorodek@p5083D517.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:31] SlicerDicer, what 64 bit games???? [07:31] wait yes i do [07:31] hi ksmurf [07:31] Octane: install it [07:31] nono, i do [07:31] opteek, all 64bit games work my 32bit ones dont [07:31] opteek, whoops I thought I said that haha [07:31] Knelix, you should have gotten a URL from ubotu with info on nvidia [07:31] hey if i am downloading Breezy should i get the Preview rel, or download the current daily build? [07:31] bob32: im doing aptitude reinstall [07:31] SlicerDicer, name me some 64 bit games, i mean [07:32] is there a way to change the size of uspash on startup.... I can't see the last 3 lines when it's starting. It's like it's 600x480 [07:32] might as well get a daily, JustSteve [07:32] opteek, eh? what does it matter my 64bit games work my 32bit dont === furic [n=furic@c211-30-120-238.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu [] [07:32] bob2: i think i know the problem! [07:32] that's what i was thinking, the preview download stalled on me at 486megs [07:32] SlicerDicer, ive never heard of a 64 bit game is all [07:32] ksmurf, like with vga=792, or something? unfortunately not === brodmann [n=brodmann@64.139.240.100] has joined #ubuntu [07:32] opteek, umm UT2004? [07:32] tritium: hehe. yes. Took me a little to figure it was the bot. Haha :-P [07:32] :) [07:32] opteek, umm quake3? [07:32] hey, what is the wiki site for ubuntu? [07:32] wiki.ubuntu.com [07:33] ah, easy enough, thanks [07:33] BOB! [07:33] LOOK! [07:33] How do you restart X without rebooting? [07:33] opteek, umm kolf? LOL!!! [07:33] opteek, sorry could not help myself there [07:33] Antioch: log out, then [07:33] Octane: hm? [07:33] bimberi, thanks! [07:33] bob2: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2451 [07:33] this is where I can get help setting up the video drivers and all that jazz? [07:33] Antioch, if you log out, then you can sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart [07:33] SlicerDicer, thats awesome, im gonna download ut2004 64 now [07:34] brodmann check the forums, there's good info for starting out there [07:34] can someone give me the default kernel line of breezy's menu.lst, messed up mine? [07:34] tritium: ooh, yes, will recommend that in future [07:34] bob2: /usr/lib/libz.so.1.2.3 VS. /usr/lib32/libz.so.1.2.3 === boots [n=boots@unaffiliated/boots] has joined #ubuntu [07:34] bimberi, :) [07:34] opteek, check icculus.org for the updated executable otherwise you wont be able to download maps from servers [07:34] brodmann: yes, but it's usually so trivial you'll not need help === ml-- [n=kenta@c-8368e155.335-1-64736c20.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [07:34] thanks guys [07:34] does anybody have any idea why my 64bit games would work and my 32bit games cannot find 32bit opengl libs? [07:35] well the uspalsh was a dive .... how about how to bring a wifi card up automatic on startup? === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.251.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:35] BOB2 [07:35] Octane: try LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib32 /usr/lib/openoffice2/soffice.bin [07:35] !usplash [07:35] well, usplash is in Breezy: sudo apt-get install usplash, for more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashDiscuss [07:35] I GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [07:35] I GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [07:35] Octane: or whatever the path was [07:35] well, sort of [07:35] Octane: haha, rock [07:35] i did a test [07:36] nice job, Octane [07:36] this is definitely a bug though [07:36] thanks tritium :) [07:36] hey brodmann heres a how-to for nvidia and there's an ati driver how-to as well http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368&highlight=nvidia+driver [07:36] i erased the symlink /usr/lib/libz.so.1 and recreated it to point at /usr/lib32/libz.so.1.2.3 [07:36] ooo was looking for libz.so.1 in /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib32 [07:37] does anybody have any idea why my 64bit games would work and my 32bit games cannot find 32bit opengl libs? === dr_willis [n=willis@12-222-81-183.client.insightBB.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [07:37] SlicerDicer-: do you have 32-bit opengl libs installed? [07:37] SlicerDicer, you're repeating, dude [07:37] SlicerDicer-: if you're talking about nvidia stuff, you probaly need a 32-bit chroot [07:37] any way to permament tell openoffice to look inside /usr/lib32 and not /usr/lib [07:38] Octane: the command I gave above does that [07:38] bob2, I would assume yes beings that later than 6699 or whatever drivers have been included with nvidia drivers [07:38] bob2, it was working previous to updating [07:38] bob2, chroot is not needed as far as I can see as it was working before [07:38] bob2: thanks so much for all your help [07:38] cafuego_: you too [07:38] Octane: np [07:38] SlicerDicer-: hm, ok [07:39] bob2, previous to update it was slow now it does not work at all [07:39] dang dist-upgrade taking a long time tonight [07:40] Octane can you point me to some details on how to do a fresh install install from network [07:40] plazgoth: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25269.html [07:40] plazgoth: first hit on google for ubuntu network install [07:41] Plazgoth: see the wiki over at ubuntulinux.org [07:41] Anybody have an IBM G74 monitor? [07:41] bob2, debsums generated 11mb txt, lemme grep the failed for you [07:41] I'm trying to find tech specs for it-- see what the max. res/refresh is. [07:41] Thanks === kataklysm [n=kataklys@h226.170.140.67.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:42] for close to 2 years I have cursed openafs for linux, but the latest version in Breezy just works! building the kernel module, config scripts etc. all automated... hooray! [07:42] JDahl, :) Did you get module-assistant sorted out? [07:43] JDahl: Whats the benefits of AFS? [07:43] yes, really easy - they packager for openafs makes really good docs [07:43] good deal [07:43] what is openafs ? [07:43] jkrogh, conceptually it's like NFS, just modern, distributed, and safe [07:44] like NFSv4? [07:44] jkrogh, I only know the old NFS === NilXu [n=chatzill@12-223-70-7.client.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:45] Sometime .. I got to the impression that AFS was not posix-compliant? [07:45] jkrogh, for several years non-compliance to everything was a pretty good AFS description [07:45] Would AFS be a good choise to get filesystem access to my home-server over the internet from $random-place without VPN? === mabu [n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu [07:46] jkrogh, that's one of the things AFS is good at [07:46] jkrogh: In theory shfs (via fuse) would work too. Damn slow, though. === bob2 would be very nervous about doing that without a vpn [07:46] cafuego_: And a "hack".. [07:47] first question.. what is the quickest or best way to get extra speed out of an old box running ubuntu? [07:47] jkrogh: Yeah. I'd rather X in via an ssh tunnel ;-) [07:47] ssh is not designed for that.. if anything else fails. then maybee [07:47] NilXu: rail gun [07:47] it is a pro 200/ 98meg ram [07:47] good === keikoz [n=keikoz@vol75-6-82-227-148-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu === keikoz s'lu [07:48] bob2: if the filesystem protocol takes care of encryption and authentication, what's the problem then? [07:48] nilxu: What are you using it for? [07:48] how about without embedding it on the face of the moon? === whyameye [n=whyameye@ip68-102-30-153.ks.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:48] NilXu: it'll be nice and fast right up until the moment of impact ;-) === mike_19 [n=mike_19@210.213.154.245] has joined #ubuntu === mkyb14 [n=none@carlsbad-cuda-6-69-162-83-77.crlsca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:48] VPN is conceptually inflexible.. all-or-nothing approach. [07:48] going to use it for a mail and web server if i can get it to respond well enough [07:49] jkrogh: I'm just antsy about that sort of thing [07:49] anyone know how to restart the vnc server ????? it's not /etc/init.d/vnc restart [07:49] ? [07:49] jkrogh: A 'little bit' approach would be shitty for a remote homedir too ;-) [07:49] NilXu: how about fluxbox as desktop, dillo for web and mutt/slrn for mail/news [07:49] NilXu: it should be fine, just do a server install and don't run X on it. [07:49] I'd just like to have access to /net/$homeserver/home on my laptop anywhere. [07:49] nilxu: Might want to hunt for extra memory chips then. Really depends a lot on how much traffic you are going to handle, but it should be fast enough in theory. [07:50] (autofs scheme) [07:50] jkrogh, I easily get worked up discussing AFS... It's one of those things that are hard to live without once you're used to them [07:50] bob2, would you please kindly check http://jadmadi.net/tmp/ it contain two files, failed.txt for failed after debsums and some other prelinked modified === maximaus [n=max@adsl-19-253-217.bna.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:50] jkrogh: I use the gnome vfs sftp handers, seem fine. [07:50] nilxu: ofcourse if you're on a T1 line and intend to max it out on web and mail traffic then you'll probably not get far with that machine. :) [07:50] NilXu: before adding extra memory check that your mb supports and, the most importantly, CAN CACHE MORE [07:50] TTilus: what is flux box? [07:50] yay prelink [07:50] NilXu: wm [07:50] ? [07:50] anyone know how to restart the vnc server ????? it's not /etc/init.d/vnc restart === ak37 [n=ak@ecable-swanston.ains.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [07:51] mkyb14: vncserver --help (it runs as user, you start it by hand) === lunatech is now known as lunatech_afk [07:51] BlueEagle: not on a t1 by any means [07:51] !info fluxbox [07:51] that didn't work [07:51] fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.11-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 626 kB, Installed size: 1988 kB [07:52] NilXu: also check that you have dma enabled (and you can tweak with other htparm stuff too) [07:52] BlueEagle: just starting up a business and would like to run my own web server [07:52] NilXu: test with readfile or bonnie++ [07:52] NilXu: if it IONLY runs as server, it will be fine for a low volume web site (maybe a few hits per second) and quite a lot of mail. === SlicerDicer- [n=Slicer@70.89.135.154] has joined #ubuntu [07:53] NilXu: I used to run a multi-domain vhost system off a P2/300 with 256Mb without any problems. [07:53] bonnie is a benchmarking prog? [07:53] nilxu: Should be able to handle that. === DansFloyd [n=dan@user-12l252r.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu === C0_horny [n=C@202.95.133.6] has joined #ubuntu [07:53] NilXu: y === mustafu [i=aeris@24-180-194-121.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === mode/#ubuntu [+o tritium] by ChanServ [07:53] cafuego_: nice === mkyb14 [n=none@carlsbad-cuda-6-69-162-83-77.crlsca.adelphia.net] has left #ubuntu [] [07:53] dont know if anyone can answer this.... how do i use Wine? ive installed it, now how do i use it? === kitsch [n=jin@84-217-19-196.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #ubuntu [07:53] NilXu: If you want to doa ulti-domain system too, let me dig up a url for you... [07:54] DansFloyd: wine winprogram.exe? === BROKEN_LADDER [n=bal@adsl-69-227-57-228.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === oseb [n=oseb@211.208.15.204] has joined #ubuntu [07:54] NilXu: if you use decent caching system in case of running dynamic website your hw will do more than fine [07:54] NilXu: http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/ [07:54] k [07:54] TTilus: where would i download fluxbox deb? [07:54] DansFloyd: You pour it in a glass, put it to your lips, tip and drink... [07:54] lol [07:54] i need help trying to get my router working with a dsl modem that already acts as a router. [07:54] nice [07:54] what settings should i be using? [07:55] NilXu: If the box is just a server, don't bother with fluxbox. It won't need a GUI. [07:55] NilXu: forget about flux if you are not setting up a desktop system === BROKEN_LADDER has a d-link DI-524 [07:55] does anybody know how I can find w32codecs debs, I can't find it in synaptics anymore [07:55] NilXu: just keep in mind a high end content management system might be a bit too much for the machine. [07:55] cafuego_: ulti-domain? [07:55] I've never used WINE... only read of it. Does it run at least certain apps well at all at this stage? [07:55] NilXu: addition... do NOT run X on your webserver === i-ubuntu [n=kelley@71.243.221.228] has joined #ubuntu [07:55] Knelix: heh. sure. [07:55] NilXu: it only eats up your memory [07:56] NilXu: multi-domain (as in: multiple email domains on the same machine, without having unix accounts for all of them) === arkais [n=arkais@200.79.212.180] has joined #ubuntu [07:56] malang [07:56] Knelix: it runs solitaire just great! [07:56] TTilus: well untill i can get it configured and incase i want to change anything later... cause this is retarted right now [07:56] NilXu: stay out of Zope-based stuff and you'll do fine [07:57] cafuego_:Haha! [07:57] avoid 'moodle' as well. [07:57] /nick linner [07:57] oops [07:57] cafuego_: isnt it zope app? === DaSkreech [n=Skreech@port0006-abm-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #ubuntu [07:57] TTilus: Nope, php. === i-ubuntu [n=kelley@71.243.221.228] has joined #ubuntu [07:57] How do I purge the apt cache? === avatar__ [n=avatar@c9069a70.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [07:58] NilXu: believe me, you really don't need X for configuring and maintaining server system [07:58] if my dsl provider uses pppoe, but my dsl modem/router already does pppoe, i don't need to set up pppoe in my wi-fi router? [07:58] DaSkreech: apt-get clean [07:58] TTilus: i know, also i am getting a startup error abut a general console font? wehre do i find that to fix it? [07:59] NilXu: uhh, dunno about that === henrym [n=henrym@219-89-130-206.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [07:59] Great. Now tsclient is busted. === TTilus have to go now, take care === scumbo [n=roberts@dsl-203-33-165-9.NSW.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [07:59] TTilus: k, well thanks loads for everything else [07:59] anyone know anything about networking? === bimberi [n=bimberi@DC-245-4.bpb.bigpond.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:00] launchpad not working? [08:00] NilXu: font problem? [08:00] do i need to use pppoe in my router AND my dsl modem? === fc_ [n=fc@203.215.107.126] has joined #ubuntu [08:00] just your modem, BROKEN_LADDER === henrym [n=henrym@219-89-130-206.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [08:01] hi [08:01] boots: "setting up general console font failed" [08:01] hi fc_ === tony_ [n=tony@210.213.138.82] has joined #ubuntu [08:01] boots: "font_kernel_font : invalid argument" [08:01] NilXu: oooh, not what I thought, sry [08:01] k no prob [08:01] How do I purge the apt cache? [08:02] DaSkreech, cafuego told you [08:02] hi [08:02] Can I just delete everything in the folder? [08:02] Oh sorry I didn't see [08:02] n [08:02] Thanks [08:02] ok well later === boots [n=boots@unaffiliated/boots] has left #ubuntu ["Give] [08:02] DaSkreech, in /var/cache/apt/archives? Yes. === jago [n=jago@dup-148-221-105-14.prodigy.net.mx] has joined #ubuntu [08:03] hi [08:03] guys, I have problem with to many application, getting similar error like "invalid ELF header" for .so file? === GrannyTux [n=rustina@d207-81-86-16.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:03] tritium can you think of any reason that my router would show that it can connect to a site, but i'm getting no connection on my computer? the dsl modem is a router, btw. [08:03] tritium: Thanks [08:04] crap [08:04] i think i'll give it another try and play with some things. [08:04] whats going on with transcode [08:04] i can install it [08:04] BROKEN_LADDER, too hard to say without more info [08:04] after upgrade === e1vis [n=user@adsl-68-127-102-30.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:05] nut i knew i should not of formated my pc [08:05] if you can install it, what's the problem/ [08:05] can't sry === ksmurf [n=ksmurf@S0106000c76ba0623.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:05] you upgraded to what? breezy? [08:05] keep saying its refer by other package transcode-doc === scumbo [n=roberts@dsl-203-33-165-9.NSW.netspace.net.au] has left #ubuntu [] === Digis [n=digis@193.219.137.203] has joined #ubuntu [08:06] no i tryed 64 bit then went back to hoary === pablo_ [n=pablo@201.255.45.16] has joined #ubuntu [08:06] que lindo que lindo festilindo! [08:06] how do i reinstall grub to the hdd ? === Tomcat_ [n=Tomcat@p54A1BD3D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [08:07] ubuntu [08:08] :-) [08:08] !wifi [08:08] hmm... wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto === iandexter [n=iandexte@203.131.67.205] has left #ubuntu ["Back] === TW [n=anonymou@213.217.143.216] has joined #ubuntu [08:08] msg CaiN_SA use your ubuntu cd [08:09] anybody find out that some 32bit games just crapped out in 64bit ubuntu? [08:09] Ok I reburned at half the speed and the integrity seems ok now [08:09] The installation got through the CD portion just fine [08:09] I just updated ubuntu and all my 32bit games crapped out :/ [08:09] But when I rebooted I saw an error "setting up general console font - Failed" [08:09] Is that normal? [08:09] CaiN_SA: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows [08:10] SlicerDicer-: not cool dude === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:11] Installing Ubunto onto the hard drive now... === nxv_ [n=nxv_@dsl-084-056-087-191.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu === Draal [n=chatzill@o1-dialup-66-81-21-167.rev.o1.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:12] thx bimberi === wHisKy [i=vampyre@m130.net81-67-104.noos.fr] has joined #ubuntu [08:13] Somebody help me with openoffice === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu ["--out"] [08:14] bluefoxicy: that's a rather open-ended request... got a more specific question? [08:14] tritium: What was that address again (it timed out on me last time), and how do I get ubotu to get me that sort of info? [08:14] Knelix, what's the info you wanted again? === Octane [n=octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:14] !tell Knelix about ubotu [08:15] tritium: On downloading/installing NVidia drivers [08:15] !tell Knelix about nvidia [08:15] Cool. Thank you guys. === Kaos`mm-Ezekiel is now known as dankine`offline === C0_horny was kicked off #ubuntu by tritium (tritium) === dankine`offline is now known as Kaos`mm-Ezekiel === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu === eYiaY [n=boooioya@85.204.194.23] has joined #ubuntu === eYiaY [n=boooioya@85.204.194.23] has left #ubuntu [] === linner [n=kelley@71.243.221.228] has joined #ubuntu === esac [n=esac@unaffiliated/esac] has joined #ubuntu [08:16] hello again === kataklysm [n=kataklys@h226.170.140.67.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:17] Madpilot: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/crappyscreen.png Make that picture in the middle http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/word_xp_quickguide_1024w.jpg do that [08:17] hmz , public away is not done here Kaos`mm-Ezekiel === C0_horny [n=C@202.95.133.6] has joined #ubuntu [08:17] i did a dist-upgrade which installed the -9 kernel, and X stopped working, and my network stopped working === GrannyTux [n=rustina@d207-81-86-16.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:17] . . . horny [08:17] XD [08:17] so whats up with this [08:17] :D [08:17] rustina@d207-81-90-45:~$ sudo apt-get install transcode [08:17] Reading package lists... Done [08:17] Building dependency tree... Done [08:17] Package transcode is not available, but is referred to by another package. [08:17] This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or [08:17] is only available from another source [08:17] However the following packages replace it: [08:17] GrannyTux, don't paste here [08:17] transcode-doc [08:17] E: Package transcode has no installation candidate [08:17] rustina@d207-81-90-45:~$ [08:17] GrannyTux: stop [08:17] GrannyTux, make sure not to flood please [08:18] GrannyTux, there is a ban policy about flooding so be carefull [08:18] opps should have taken out [08:18] sry [08:18] !info transcode === meng [n=meng@60.49.144.165] has joined #ubuntu === Passion [n=Gookeun@24.83.219.3] has joined #ubuntu [08:19] !info transcode breezy [08:19] transcode: (Utility to encode raw video/audio streams), section multiverse/x11, is extra. Version: 2:1.0.0-0.4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14797 kB, Installed size: 42756 kB [08:19] maddler: closed ended enogh [08:19] GrannyTux, transcode is in breezy, but it's in other repos in hoary === desplesda [n=desplesd@CPE-143-238-234-78.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [08:20] event not found === dePOLL is now known as depoll [08:21] hey everyone, i just upgraded my breezy install and my nvidia driver won't load anymore, is there any news when linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-386 is going to be available to install? === AlexMBas [n=Alexandr@beigetower/alexandre] has joined #ubuntu [08:21] I have a problem that lost brightness on my laptop after resuming. [08:21] so should I add breezy to my sources list [08:21] I see Ubuntu installs from the CD, then reboots and continues to install... Why is this? Why not just install everything at once? [08:21] desplesda, soon === aftertaf [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #ubuntu [08:21] GrannyTux, not unless you want to upgrade to breezy === BROKEN_LADDER [n=bal@adsl-69-227-57-228.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:21] HrdwrBoB, The RAID 1 install went perfectly fine, thank you very much [08:21] Dose anybody have the same problem? [08:21] tritium: thanks [08:22] desplesda: Oh please don't tell me NVidia drivers are not working in 5.10... [08:22] desplesda: should be today [08:22] can i pay someone ten bucks for a bit of help setting up my router? i could give it to you via paypal or something. [08:22] mmm maybe i shoud [08:22] i've got to get this working and i'm exhausted and need sleep. [08:22] BROKEN_LADDER: what kind of router? [08:22] Knelix: it's called the development version for a reason [08:22] Knelix, they are, it's just a matter of waiting for an update === JHmaac [n=boooioya@85.204.194.23] has joined #ubuntu [08:22] the ubuntu packages for nvidia were working the other day too... === JHmaac [n=boooioya@85.204.194.23] has left #ubuntu [] [08:22] dlink di 524 [08:22] Ugh... I know, I know... [08:23] BROKEN_LADDER: i have a di 624, maybe i can help [08:23] this same thing happened last time i bought this model of router. i used the setup system, and it didn't work. then i couldn't get back to it. [08:23] It's just that without a driver graphics are gonna suck most likely... [08:23] desplesda okay, i have a dsl modem/router and the router is behind that. [08:23] aftertaf, don't worry [08:23] Knelix: not really, i'm coping just fine with vesa [08:23] desplesda i went through the wizard but to no avail. now i can't even plug into the router and get 192.168.0.1 [08:24] i even reset it. [08:24] desplesda: Okay, cool. === uRNKiuUax [n=boooioya@85.204.194.23] has joined #ubuntu [08:24] Knelix: no, they'll be fine, just sans 3d acceleration === uRNKiuUax [n=boooioya@85.204.194.23] has left #ubuntu [] [08:24] every time i try to work on my connection, i have to cut of my computer's connection, so i can't get help with this. [08:24] ok... Does that include the GNOME screensavers? [08:24] i need someone i can call. [08:24] to walk me through it. [08:24] 10 bucks for like 15 minutes of time. [08:24] that's 40$/per hour. [08:25] heh [08:25] BROKEN_LADDER, what router do you have? [08:25] i can do that if you like === frank23 [n=frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [08:25] once again, di 524 [08:25] OK install worked. Sweet. [08:25] BROKEN_LADDER, may I /msg you? === Passion [n=Gookeun@24.83.219.3] has joined #ubuntu [08:25] I wasnt paying attention, but I have a similar model and also several problems [08:25] http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/023809.shtml?swath Is that a giant penis? [08:26] desplesda absolutely [08:26] Should I try to install the NVidia drivers anyway, or just stick with the VESA driver? [08:26] It's currently at 640x480 how do I change the resolution? When I go to change it I have no other options. I am guessing no driver for my video === kPQue [n=boooioya@85.204.194.23] has joined #ubuntu [08:27] BROKEN_LADDER, what I did was to change to static IP, that enabled to contact the router and upgrade firmware, but the router still crashes occasionally. All that helps for me (tip from the DI FAQ) is to turn of router and cable modem for at least 2 minutes === kPQue [n=boooioya@85.204.194.23] has left #ubuntu [] [08:27] JDahl so it's a router problem?! === loorn1 [i=kumiseta@addr-213-216-219-44.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:28] BROKEN_LADDER, yes, most definitely [08:28] JDahl i just bought this thing. i had problems with the same model last time i bought it but thought it was a fluke. [08:28] oh jesus. [08:28] how can they sell something like that. [08:28] my gf's 20$ motorola router works fine. === tritium waves good night === mode/#ubuntu [-o tritium] by tritium [08:29] I think the FAQ said something like "it sometimes crashes during heavy traffic".. I think they mean IP traffic, and for me it seems depend also on how hot my apartment is (not shit!)... === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === se1 [n=seb@adsl-66-159-195-206.dslextreme.com] has left #ubuntu [] [08:30] tritium: Good night. :-) === geneo93 [n=kane@1Cust2475.an4.det15.da.uu.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:30] night tritium === ekimus [n=ekimus@ateist.htu.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #ubuntu === Digis [n=digis@193.219.137.203] has joined #ubuntu [08:31] ACPI is not stable yet, right? === mehdi [n=gijibiji@81.12.76.112] has joined #ubuntu === segosa [i=r@220.Red-213-98-67.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has left #ubuntu [] [08:31] Hmm. Now Ubuntu is downloading packages to install... [08:32] I must say, this seems like a great Installer. [08:32] hi [08:32] have u me [08:32] ? [08:32] plz [08:32] Knelix: apt-get is the best === mehdi [n=gijibiji@81.12.76.112] has left #ubuntu [] [08:33] mehdi: Hello. Ask any question you'd like. [08:33] hi [08:33] How do I add more resolutions? It seems it only has 640x480? [08:33] !tell Plazgoth about fixres [08:33] Uh-Oh... Problems!!!! [08:34] Isn't it possible to have an optional installation mode that takes care of all the restricted stuff? Isn't it just in the US that's a problem? [08:34] Ugh === ChaKy [n=chaky@83-131-131-131.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu [08:34] Something about not being able to read some block... "Remounting filesystem read-only"... [08:34] ... And it seemed to be going so well. === loorn2 [i=kumiseta@addr-213-216-219-122.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:35] make xconfig requires QT. what do I install to get that, or is there something better than make xconfig nowadays ? [08:35] It happened in "Preparing openoffice.org2-common" === Pyrotude [n=Wubba@adsl-70-224-53-106.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:35] I think it's frozen now. === [mark] [n=mark@211.24.144.182] has joined #ubuntu [08:36] Rebooting... [08:36] i upgraded horay -> breezy during install i had to remove my postgresql and reinstalled it with apt-get. it seems still to run as i can connect to it with psql db_name. but it is not listening on a port anymore. pgadmin3 or my php scripts throw an error asking if there is postgresql running [08:37] exp === Blue-Omega [i=Blue@unaffiliated/Blue-Omega] has joined #ubuntu === pipoun [n=pipoun@dan75-1-81-57-18-87.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:37] nxv_: odd, it should listen; but why did you remove it before? [08:38] nxv_: there should be a clean upgrade path [08:38] nxv_: do you use TCP or unix socket in pgadmin3/php? === grigora [n=grigora@s232-198.resnet.ucla.edu] has joined #ubuntu [08:39] Damn, maybe I should install the stable version instead... === d2dchat [n=d2dchat@pcp09228522pcs.sanarb01.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:39] Knelix: bad blocks is bad blocks [08:40] hey folks, does anyone know how to log into a Novell network and gain access to network printers from a Linux workstation? I would really appreciate any advice as I don't feel at all inclined to use Windoze XP. Thanks [08:40] <3 Ubuntu [08:40] nalioth: So what should I do? [08:40] is there a GIMP module that can open up and edit pdfs? [08:40] i installed breezy from cd and it worked ok === _pir [n=E@212.199.9.229.static.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [08:40] or plugin? [08:40] d2dchat: doubt it [08:40] d2dchat : nope [08:40] ARG! GPSD!!!!!!! Why must you ruin all my fun?! I run gpsd and my network card dies! GRRRR [08:40] d2dchat: you can convert .pdfs to .ps, tho [08:40] is there any linux program that does that? [08:40] how? [08:41] d2dchat: pdf2ps? [08:41] pstopdf [08:41] bob2: how to map bad blocks for Knelix? [08:41] make xconfig requires QT. what do I install to get that, or is there something better than make xconfig nowadays ? === god-zero [n=godzero@c-24-118-30-116.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:41] gimp can open pdf files. === Draucon [n=Draucon@dialup-free-267.nmsu.edu] has joined #ubuntu [08:42] volvoguy, i just tried, it aint workin;) [08:42] esac: the kernel command-line paramters I suggested did not work? [08:42] esac: gnome has gconfig i think..... [08:42] esac: libqt3-mt-dev and build-essential [08:42] nalioth: modern disks silently remap bad blocks without telling you [08:42] d2dchat, well it's in the menu. lemme grab a pdf and try it. :) [08:42] nalioth: if it's started telling you, it means the disk is *really* broken === _Caleb_ [n=ichigo@cpe-065-191-209-077.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [08:42] bob2: nope, i lose my wireless card and X freezes for a couple minutes on start [08:43] bob2: Knelix had the bad block problem, so i guess he needs more help [08:43] <_Caleb_> hmmm [08:43] Knelix: install smartmontools [08:43] What the system asking me?: Display all 372 possibilities?-- This after concluding that there is a bad block [08:43] Knelix: on the livdCD please [08:43] <_Caleb_> with ubuntu and apt-get is it like yum in that you have to setup a conf [08:43] Knelix: I'd just be buying a new disk [08:43] Knelix: you triggerd tab complation [08:43] <_Caleb_> or is it like emerge and you can just start installing? [08:43] WHOAH [08:43] 2.2 Gimp does it [08:43] just tried it [08:43] _Caleb_: yum is son of apt-get. apt-get uses a sources.list [08:44] NsOmNiAc, Gimp 2.2 opens up pdfs? [08:44] YUP [08:44] blew me away [08:44] bob2: What should I tell it? Yes, no? I'm not really sure what it wants to do. And, yeah-- what's funny is that it's my eMac's internal drive (which I recently upgraded). [08:44] NsOmNiAc, maybe my version of gimp is old [08:44] _Caleb_: it has a default configuration, yes [08:44] Knelix: q [08:45] yeahhh blew me away [08:45] it didn't used to [08:45] <_pir> Helo, I installed "gnome-netstatus" from the synaptic, but I cant find it in the "add applet"...how do I use it?.. I have many x-executable files in the /usr/lib how do I lunch them?... [08:45] d2dchat, it worked for me. i'm using breezy though. gimp 2.2.8 i believe. [08:45] <_Caleb_> ahh so id assume apt-get is a lil more refined than yum [08:45] Can I simply mark that block as bad... and move on...? [08:45] ah i have 2.2.2 [08:45] <_Caleb_> whats the package name to install xine? [08:45] how do i upgrade? [08:45] bob2, would you please kindly check http://jadmadi.net/tmp/ it contain two files, failed.txt for failed after debsums and some other prelinked modified [08:46] I got 2.2.2 [08:46] d2dchat, you probably need to upgrade to breezy to get that gimp, and i don't know if i'd recommend that yet. === mfuentes [n=mario@200.54.6.201] has joined #ubuntu [08:46] Madeye: indeed [08:46] Madeye: undo whatever prelink did, and try again [08:46] volvoguy, gotcha [08:47] I'm really not going to sift through 30KB of crap because you ran prelink [08:47] volvoguy: does this work for multiple page pdfs? [08:47] NsOmNiAc, well i tried to open a pdf with it and it said failed, required plugin or something [08:47] I'm running Hoary [08:47] possible I have the plugin [08:47] d2dchat, if you file isn't anything private, i'd be happy to convert it for you. [08:47] bimberi, don't know. lemme try. :) [08:47] I do alot of graphics design [08:47] bob2, i'm not sure what prelink is and i don't know how to undo it [08:47] <_pir> Any body knows how do I launch the "gnome-netstat"..? [08:47] volvoguy: teach a man to fish, and all that === zAo^ [n=zao@zAo.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu [08:48] :( I not have access to change my Hackergotchi in the Launchpad :\ [08:48] <_pir> gnome-netstatus... [08:48] Madeye: why did you run it then? [08:48] mfuentes: known bug [08:48] nalioth, regarding upgrading to breezy for a newer gimp, that's like... um.... teach a man to fish for killer whales. [08:48] bob2, I didn't, it seems one of my apps did [08:48] no, i guess ill live without:( [08:49] thanks though [08:49] who was it that wanted that ... for pdf ... let me see what plugin I installed [08:49] d2dchat, you could check the hoary backports project. [08:49] Madeye: if you say so [08:49] does anyone know apt-spy and if it is also possible to use it on ubuntu? [08:49] should I let my upgrades download BTW? [08:49] volvoguy: d2dchat needs a pdf converted. teach a man to fish, and all that [08:49] it says I've got a lot, i justw anna make sure they won't break my installation === kairu0 [n=steve@YahooBB219201195046.bbtec.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:49] volvoguy: n/m [08:50] nalioth, yea, i give up on the problem for now;) [08:50] Madeye: read the prelink man page === euCaecwptW [n=vxyciaeo@85.204.194.23] has joined #ubuntu [08:50] does anyone have any suggestions? [08:50] for my upgrades [08:50] one sec === euCaecwptW is now known as osaUuox [08:50] bob2, hmm it sounds prelink is a package, if I remove it my problem will get solved? === osaUuox [n=vxyciaeo@85.204.194.23] has left #ubuntu [] [08:51] Madeye: no [08:51] nalioth, np. :) === efuuoulow [n=uuauumbu@82.208.156.165] has joined #ubuntu === efuuoulow [n=uuauumbu@82.208.156.165] has left #ubuntu [] [08:51] is there anywhere I can get the old gpsd package for debian/ubuntu? === GoodLab [n=good@cbl-sd-59-44.aster.com.do] has joined #ubuntu [08:52] d2dchat, i missed that part. are you just doing security upgrades and such in Hoary, or are you upgrading to Breezy? [08:52] couldn't find anything out of the ordinary === GoodLab [n=good@cbl-sd-59-44.aster.com.do] has left #ubuntu [] [08:52] i dont think im upgrading to Breezy.. [08:52] volvoguy: nvm, the dialog ask which page(s) you want :) [08:52] its just like apache2 and stuff === mfuentes [n=mario@200.54.6.201] has joined #ubuntu [08:52] but a lot of stuff [08:52] like KDE [08:52] and some other stuff [08:52] even though im on Gnome === BROKEN_LADDER [n=bal@adsl-69-227-57-228.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu ["MI] [08:53] bimberi, yeah, i was just getting around to it. :) i'm going to use that a lot though! [08:53] wtf [08:53] Madeye: removing it will not undo what it did [08:53] <_Caleb_> use fluxbox youll be happier [08:53] haha i used that way back [08:53] i would like to be able to use all 3 [08:53] KDE, Gnome and Fluxbox [08:53] d2dchat, if you just selected packages in synaptic to install, and some to upgrade, and it didn't complain, you should be good to go. :) === BROKEN_LADDER [n=bal@adsl-69-227-57-228.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === aftertaf_ [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #ubuntu [08:54] desplesda yo. [08:54] desplesda it seems like my router isn't doing dhcp. [08:54] bob2, what you're not noticing is i'm desktop user, not programmer, or admin. honestly i don't know whats going on, and prelink man page make no sense [08:54] d2dchat, you can do that. i have gnome/kde/e17/xfce on my demo machine. [08:54] Madeye: ok then [08:54] desplesda because when i type ifup eth0 when directly connected, it's instant. but with the router it just keeps trying and never gets a DHCP response. [08:54] volvoguy, you'll have to show me how to set that up;) [08:55] <_pir> Any body knows how do I launch the "gnome-netstatus"..? [08:55] d2dchat, if you do it in synaptic, it should be automagic. :) [08:55] well... except e17. [08:55] _pir: if it's an applet, you need to restart the panel to see it listed [08:55] bob2, isnt there an easy way to get this problem solved? please? [08:55] i dont know about e17 and xfce [08:55] Hey I use a KVM switch. When I switch back to UBUNTU the mose freaks out, is there anyway to re-init the mouse [08:55] do they look cool? === grigora [n=grigora@s232-198.resnet.ucla.edu] has left #ubuntu [] [08:55] Madeye: please don't be annoying [08:56] Madeye, lol, apparently not;) [08:56] hey, how do I compile a package from source with apt? [08:56] bob2, ok [08:56] d2dchat, xfce4 is the exact package you'll want, and it does get added to the list of sessions you can choose in the GDM login screen [08:56] <_pir> I did restart the gnome-panel... but I still can't use it.. [08:56] cycom: e.g.? [08:56] is there anyway to automagically do that, or do I have to download the source from somewhere else? [08:56] Madeye: read the manpage again [08:56] _pir: right click taskbar add aplet [08:56] cycom: be more specific about what you're trying to do [08:56] bob2: say I want to install gpsd from source [08:56] compile it [08:56] and install it [08:56] volvoguy, so what should i do first if i want KDE next? [08:56] Madeye: and look for the word "undo" or so [08:56] like say emerge in gentoo [08:57] cycom: that's unlikely to actually help [08:57] i think i only have Gnome [08:57] but i have bits and pieces of KDE I guess [08:57] im not rly sure [08:57] cycom: "apt-get source gpsd" gets the source tree and unpacks it [08:57] <_pir> I tried to launch from the /usr/lib/gnome-netstatus ... but nothing [08:57] bob2: thanks. [08:57] cycom: "sudo apt-get build-dep gpsd" will install the needed build dependencies === lunatech_afk is now known as lunatech [08:57] Plazgoth: what type of mouse is it? === aftertaf_ is now known as aftertaf [08:58] d2dchat, probably ask someone else. :) i have a big hard drive and just installed the kubuntu metapackages. there might be a KDE metapackage that just installs the desktop environment though. [08:58] bob2: Thank you very much! === cafuego__ [n=Cafuego@ppp65-202.lns1.mel2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:58] how big is your hd? [08:58] _pir: i just told you how to do it [08:58] eh-heh [08:58] cycom: 'dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us' in the unpacked source will build it and put the .debs in ../ === cafuego__ [n=Cafuego@ppp65-202.lns1.mel2.internode.on.net] has left #ubuntu [] === arkais [n=ricardo@200.79.212.180] has joined #ubuntu [08:59] d2dchat, 80G - but i don't do anything but try to break it really. :) i don't mind if it gets congested with packages. [08:59] I keep getting what look like syslog messages written all over my virtual consoles. can I get that to stop? [08:59] [Spooky] , que onda === Foodcoman [n=berickso@c-24-20-116-33.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === _Kaos`mm-Ezekiel [i=cam@shell1.best-shellz.net] has joined #ubuntu [08:59] volvoguy, lol, well KDE isnt THAT big is it? I have an 80 gig seagate.. [08:59] ups [08:59] d2dchat, if you're actually using the machine, the kubuntu packages might not be the best way to go. does anyone have a suggestion for this? === _Caleb_ [n=ichigo@cpe-065-191-209-077.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [09:00] bob2, just to get KDE on a stock breezy system? install a kubuntu metapackage or is there a slimmer KDE metapackage? [09:00] kubuntu breezy is fine here [09:00] you can install less if you want less [09:00] kdebase? [09:00] I'd just go with kubuntu-desktop unless you're really strapped for disk/bandwidth [09:01] dooglus: that doesn't even include konq, iirc [09:01] bob2, thanks. :) [09:01] d2dchat, there's your answer. :) [09:01] bob2: you don't need konq to run KDE I don't think [09:01] bob2: you can do kde [09:01] doesnt include Konquerer? really? lol [09:01] and those aren't THAT b ig [09:01] yes you do its part of base package [09:02] d2dchat, the kubuntu package will include konquerer. [09:02] <_pir> geneo93: I click on the "Add to panel" and I still can't see it.. something is running..? [09:03] so look for kubuntu in the synaptic package manager? === RuffianSoldier [i=user@cpe-24-209-106-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:03] try add application then [09:03] d2dchat, yep. it sounds like that's the best method. just search for "kubuntu" and install "kubuntu-desktop". === RuffianSoldier [i=user@cpe-24-209-106-36.woh.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] [09:03] dooglus: right, but it's not much of a desktop with it [09:03] KDE ? [09:03] and that won't replace Gnome settings right? [09:03] correct. === hatice^ [n=selcan@58.69.55.225] has joined #ubuntu [09:04] it will replace some === hatice^ [n=selcan@58.69.55.225] has left #ubuntu [] [09:04] for instance konqueror will be set to default browser [09:04] blech [09:04] yeah, it sucks [09:04] Seveas, would be easy to revert back to right? [09:04] d2dchat: it will ask what you what to use gdm or kdm [09:04] !start a desktop war [09:04] fluxbox is much better than kde! [09:04] geneo93, at what point? during login? [09:04] d2dchat, a simple sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser === NsOmNiAc nods in agreement [09:04] Seveas, it didn't do that on my install. firefox remained the default browser in gnome. [09:05] ubotu, I can just get fluxbox after KDE:-P [09:05] d2dchat: Are you on ritalin? === _Kaos`mm-Ezekiel is now known as dankine`offline === dankine`offline is now known as Kaos`mm-Ezekiel [09:05] d2dchat, ubotu is a bot. :) [09:05] ubotu, if you say so [09:05] d2dchat: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? [09:05] !tell d2dchat about bot [09:06] so what i if i keep talking about KDE and fluxbox? will the bot pick tha tup? [09:06] d2dchat: no, the bot is pretty stupid. === webwolf_27 [n=jeremy@DSL01.83.171.167.250.NEFkom.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:06] dooglus, too bad:( [09:06] !lart dooglus === ubotu strangles dooglus with a doohicky mouse cord [09:07] d2dchat, the rest of us will pick up the slack though. :) [09:07] I wou;dn't say stupid :) [09:07] lol === esac [n=esac@unaffiliated/esac] has joined #ubuntu [09:07] man, i cant believe im paying $30/mo for 600kbps === rama [n=ramanraj@203.187.244.208] has joined #ubuntu [09:07] d2dchat, whoa. [09:07] and they advertise 715 [09:08] dist-upgrade pulled down -9 kernel. no nvidia driver, no atheros wifi driver kills my system. is it common to get a kernel upgrade and have everything break ? [09:08] d2dchat, no cable in your area? [09:08] damn comcast.. [09:08] I'm looking for a good distro to use for programming (wxWidgets, qt, etc.) on a notebook with low RAM (192MB). Is Ubuntu a good choice? [09:08] no, it is comcast [09:08] d2dchat: you're in Oz right? you guys have it expensive .... true! [09:08] esac, no, there's something odd going on [09:08] I'm waiting to reboot until the restricted modules are there :) [09:08] well see [09:08] webwolf_27: or debian, yes [09:08] I really don't understand this computer... So I switched the hard drive with another I have... now, nothing.. just the startup screen... doesn't want to start off of the CD.... ugh... [09:08] they advertise 6 Mbps [09:08] BUT [09:08] it runs at 500-600 [09:09] d2dchat, huh. i thought everyone had the same speed. 4Mb for analog users, 6mb for digital. [09:09] bob2, I had trouble getting the wxwigdets libs to work on Sarge [09:09] bob2, even though I installed them via apt [09:09] volvoguy, the problem is everyone else I guess? [09:09] u made default gdm btw [09:09] i hope that will still let kdm run === pc22 [n=arik@222.126.13.162] has joined #ubuntu [09:10] webwolf_27: odd [09:10] im so glad i never have to reboot hehehe === marie_ [n=marie@210.213.151.240] has joined #ubuntu [09:10] bob2, when i type : grug-install /dev/hda i get the error : /dev/foo: not found or not a block device [09:10] Seveas: is it just taking a while to propogate, and we are jumping the bandwagon ? isn't there batching method so that users don't pick up broken packages ? === oli|0xff is now known as Oli [09:10] d2dchat, there's a lot of factors in network speed. if you want to test yours out, try this. mine tested a little better than the national average - http://www.broadbandreports.com/stest [09:11] alright so should i sign off and come back? [09:11] bob2, thats what I thought 2, I had the same problem on SuSE9.3, and FC3 is slow as hell on so little RAM [09:11] d2 if you upgrade kernel you'll need to [09:11] does any one here can guide me about ubunto??? plzzzz [09:11] d2dchat: if you want to change you can dpkg-reconfigure kdm or gdm [09:11] CaiN_SA: really /dev/foo? === benplaut [n=benplaut@cpe-70-95-146-177.hawaii.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:11] d2dchat, you'll need to log off or end session to log back in to KDE. [09:11] d2dchat: 500Kb/s = 6MBps [09:11] aftertaf, i have to do that everytime? [09:12] bob2, and I don't want to take the time to do an LFS or Gentoo [09:12] marie_: you're in the right place, ask away [09:12] is alien installed on breezy by default? [09:12] d2dchat: nope, but if you want to use kdm instead of gdm, you can choose, and change your mind ;) [09:12] tnx === lewoj_ski [n=work2@203.177.178.161] has joined #ubuntu === pc22 [n=arik@222.126.13.162] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:12] benplaut: no [09:13] d2dchat, that's just to pick the login manager. you can use gdm for everything. just click the session button and change it to KDE to log into kde. [09:13] hrm [09:13] aftertaf, cant i just do what volvoguy said? [09:13] webwolf_27: You could try the LiveCD first... although that will already be slower than an installed system. [09:13] <[Wiebel] > hmm === klima [n=maniac@host142-207.pool8532.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [09:13] <[Wiebel] > anyone using the mozilla totem plugin? [09:13] d2dchat: or you could install Xnest and run KDE inside a Gnome session. [09:13] ahh [09:13] just needed an apt-get upgrade :P [09:13] 2005-09-23 03:12:48 EST: 4966 / 341 [09:13] Your download speed : 5085909 bps, or 4966 kbps. [09:13] A 620.8 KB/sec transfer rate. [09:13] Your upload speed : 350048 bps, or 341 kbps. [09:13] what is that? [09:13] aftertaf, what should i do to download yahoo messenger??? [09:13] <[Wiebel] > it seems it isn't capable of showing streams with more than one stream [09:14] <[Wiebel] > http://www.nu.nl/news/596320/22/Rita_drijft_Amerikanen_tot_wanhoop_%28video%29.html [09:14] o wait, ive got 5 [09:14] <[Wiebel] > like that one [09:14] i should have 6:( [09:14] bleh [09:14] bob2 , yes why does it do that i dont specify that :/ === koli [n=koli@ip-81-15-216-54.unregistered.net.telenergo.pl] has joined #ubuntu === DMarin [n=davefx@84.77.92.146] has joined #ubuntu === dealt [n=domeng@202.90.141.156] has joined #ubuntu [09:14] d2dchat: note there are 8 bits in a byte. They advertise bits. [09:14] greetings! === nerf_Herder [n=nerf_Her@202.57.88.66] has joined #ubuntu [09:14] Tomcat_, I tried knoppix, that only works with the cable plugged in, otherwise it constantly restarts (cant find my battery) [09:14] yea === fanaj [n=bardelli@serena.cs.unibo.it] has joined #ubuntu [09:14] d2dchat, do you have digital cable tv? [09:14] they try to make it bigger [09:14] yes [09:14] hi [09:14] After installation of the "new" hard drive... the system is working very slowly... very to slow to go through the startup sequence.... [09:15] d2dchat, lucky you. :) they don't say in the commercial that 6mb/sec is only for digital people. [09:15] lol [09:15] marie_: you can use gaim or kopete, they are compatible yahoo... [09:15] im just new in using ubuntu... where can i download plug-ins for mp3? [09:15] quick question, is it ok to build/install a new version of an application from source without uninstalling the previous version? [09:15] digital cable means more shit for more money - blah. [09:15] d2dchat, did I read right that your paying 30$/month for that [09:15] $68+$29/mo isnt lucky [09:15] (on the tv side anyway) [09:15] yes [09:15] aftertaf, were could i find that?? === Venson [n=Venson@user-0cevcb0.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:15] anybody knows where i can download plug-ins for mp3? [09:16] xmms:) [09:16] moin [09:16] !RestrictedFormats [09:16] from memory, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats or 'codecs' [09:16] d2dchat, damn I'm paying ~45/month for 2.6Mbs up 512Kbs down [09:16] cafuego_, agreed. i HAD it... picture was worse than analog, i didn't watch the extra channels, and it cost more. forget that. [09:16] webwolf_27, shit! ill stop complaining then:) [09:16] webwolf_27, where are you? [09:17] d2dchat, thats a flat rate , Nuernberg Germany [09:17] volvoguy: The only channels I watch are the extra ones. The non-digital here doesn't have the normal UHF channels, but digital does. Due to the skyscrapers between me and the transmitter, the only eay i can watch normal tv is by having digital cable :-( [09:17] d2dchat, but no volume limit === cerius [n=cerius@ip-80-236-214-24.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ubuntu [09:18] webwolf_27, is the Internet over there public or private? === difekta [n=BROKEN_L@adsl-69-227-57-228.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:18] publically or privately owned? [09:18] hi wat ist the lin to ubuntu chat german [09:18] d2dchat, private [09:18] well, that or parking a couple of 747's in a few inconvenient buildings === difekta is now known as BROKEN_LADDER [09:18] webwolf_27, very curious... [09:18] webwolf_27, what went wrong? :) [09:18] !de [09:18] well, de is #ubuntu-de bitte. [09:19] d2dchat, ? what went wrong ? [09:19] webwolf_27, why are the prices so much higher? === jeavis [n=jeavis@dsl-201-128-170-162.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu [09:19] cafuego_, interesting. i'm on 5 acres on top of a hill, so i can't say i'm familiar with things getting in the way of analog anything. :) [09:20] hello [09:20] d2dchat: because the local politicians have there hand in his pocket [09:20] d2dchat, VAT, always on, etc.. and that was only a rough conversion euro->dollar, in addition pprices are higher here in general [09:20] cafuego_, although i do get struck by lightning quite often. 5 feet outside my back door tonight for instance. :-\ [09:21] BROKEN_LADDER: hello? [09:21] hi what application can I use to burn a cd [09:21] hi === halilcanUSA [n=ece@151.82.0.105] has joined #ubuntu [09:21] BROKEN_LADDER: how did it go? [09:21] im moving to Cali [09:21] :( [09:21] 25364/717 [09:21] well, check your private message [09:21] d2dchat i live in san francisco. [09:21] don't move here === apsync [i=asdf@kucuk87.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:21] it's cold expensive and crowded [09:21] one guy got 25364/717 for down/up [09:22] in cali === cafuego_ [n=cafuego_@ppp65-202.lns1.mel2.internode.on.net] has left #ubuntu [] [09:22] but there's lots og gays [09:22] of* [09:22] if i got those speeds i wouldnt care about the cold:) [09:22] !kp [09:22] ColonelKernel: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? [09:22] lol [09:22] d2dchat, that's probably not for $30. === bigfoot1 [n=hideseek@FLH1Acf042.fko.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #ubuntu [09:22] volvoguy, it was comcast! [09:22] :) === tikKy_bOys [n=timata@81.215.129.128] has joined #ubuntu [09:22] surewest, a broaband company in sacramento, has astonishing deals. === tikKy_bOys [n=timata@81.215.129.128] has left #ubuntu [] [09:22] has anyone heard about fi os? [09:22] d2dchat, they have business accounts. === ciddivegizli [n=devrimci@81.215.129.128] has joined #ubuntu === halilcanUSA [n=ece@151.82.0.105] has left #ubuntu [] === ciddivegizli [n=devrimci@81.215.129.128] has left #ubuntu [] [09:22] volvoguy, i heard business accounts only go up to 8 [09:23] hi, when I start my pc I get 'cannot start x server (your interface)' and when I scroll down I see, cannot Load module 'nvidia', how can I fix this? I can enter the terminal via safe mode, anyone know how I can install nvidia drivers in terminal? === ciddivegizli [n=devrimci@81.215.129.128] has joined #ubuntu === ciddivegizli is now known as ||_KaTiL_|| === ||_KaTiL_|| [n=devrimci@81.215.129.128] has left #ubuntu [] === vczqvbg [n=timata@81.215.129.128] has joined #ubuntu === Venson [n=Venson@user-0cevcb0.cable.mindspring.com] has left #ubuntu [] [09:23] jeavis: gnome? there are a couple...... cd roaster? is it an mp3 to audio cd? === shundi [n=t4q3QYQK@201.22.112.3] has joined #ubuntu === vczqvbg [n=timata@81.215.129.128] has left #ubuntu [] [09:24] apsync: what version of ubuntu? [09:24] breezah [09:24] d2dchat, i'm not sure, but i thought it was alot higher than that. one of my clients had 8mb through comcast over 5 years ago. [09:24] ok... latest update? [09:24] yes === carlos [n=carlos@243.Red-83-47-24.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:24] breezy btw :S === shundi [n=t4q3QYQK@201.22.112.3] has left #ubuntu [] [09:25] ahh... something screwy happened to the packages.... for the moment i'd advise using vesa till the packages are sorted. === bty [n=bty@210.213.194.94] has joined #ubuntu [09:25] volvoguy, interesting, well i dont know for sure [09:25] apsync: get that?? [09:25] vesa ? [09:25] what is that? [09:25] ok wish me luck - im buildin vanilla 2.6.14-rc2 on breezy daily build [09:25] http://www22.verizon.com/FiosForHome/channels/Fios/HighSpeedInternetForHome.asp [09:25] check that^ [09:25] ah, ty [09:25] apsync: type sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf : [09:25] yes [09:25] ok is anybody programming with wx on ubuntu, how well can I expect my sys to run with 1.5Ghz and 192mb RAM [09:26] should i post to a nopaste page that xorg.conf? [09:26] scroll down and edit were you see "nvidia" change to "vesa" [09:26] oh [09:26] a quick favor to ask of a firefox user: I'm trying to make a "quick search from URL bar" for amazon.com books. Could one of you go to amazon.com, select "books" in the dropdown list, right click in the text field (search box), select "make quick search" (or something like that). Then go to your bookmarks and copy and paste the "special url" that firefox made. (I need this info for my Galeon browser) Thank you! [09:26] guys, it seems i ran out of alternative, and I have to reinstall the system, does ubuntu have netinstaller through ftp ? [09:26] apsync: no need to paste..... ;) [09:26] apsync, i have a better idea for you [09:26] and how do i install vesa? === Onur-19 [n=eda22f__@85.98.39.40] has joined #ubuntu [09:26] apsync: you dont, its a standard vga ;) [09:26] apsync, download the latest driver from nvidia and install it === Onur-19 [n=eda22f__@85.98.39.40] has left #ubuntu [] [09:26] alreasy present [09:26] oh cool [09:26] d2dchat, ahhh.. fiber. [09:26] ColonelKernel: is that possible via terminal? [09:27] apokryphos, yes it is === serel_ [n=devrimci@81.215.129.128] has joined #ubuntu [09:27] oh cool === serel_ is now known as muazzez [09:27] can you tell me the command? === muazzez [n=devrimci@81.215.129.128] has left #ubuntu [] [09:27] ColonelKernel: i don't tnink that would be best...... it gets messed up with the kernel version and the current gcc..... breezy isnt stable enough yet. [09:27] and the packages will be fixed soon anyway. [09:27] The system become extremely extremely slow (looks like it's frozen) with the new hard drive I installed, and refuses to boot from the CD. When disconnected, the CD boots just fine. === burcu [n=timata@81.215.129.128] has joined #ubuntu [09:27] volvoguy, it said 30Mbps i think [09:27] apsync, you only have to edit xorg.conf [09:27] Seriously... === burcu is now known as ^^my_frend^^ [09:27] aftertaf, how so? [09:27] ok [09:27] doing now === ^^my_frend^^ [n=timata@81.215.129.128] has left #ubuntu [] [09:27] [09:27] FiOS and Speed [09:27] 1. What is Verizon FiOS Internet Service? [09:27] 2. How fast is Verizon FiOS Internet Service? [09:27] 3. What is connection speed? How is it different than throughput? [09:27] 4. What affects my connection speed? [09:27] [09:27] Qualification === sandugo [n=paltok@AP-203.167.31.158.sysads.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:27] 1. Is Verizon FiOS Internet Service available on my phone line? [09:27] aftertaf: breezy is fixed now, its running pretty good [09:27] 2. My neighbor has Verizon FiOS Internet Service, but my phone line doesn't qualify. Why? [09:27] d2dchat: dont paste.... === indypende [n=indypend@d83-176-67-171.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu [09:28] 3. Can I change my phone number to get a phone number that qualifies for Verizon FiOS Internet Service? [09:28] Identifier "vesa" [09:28] === Oli [n=oli@unaffiliated/oli] has left #ubuntu [] [09:28] aftertaf, I want to burn my files into cd [09:28] Requirements [09:28] floooooooooooooooooooood [09:28] 1. Are there computer requirements for FiOS? [09:28] 2. What is the difference between the minimum and recommended system requirements? [09:28] 3. What type of wiring is needed for FiOS? [09:28] [09:28] kataklysm: i know, but the restricted packages have gone messed up [09:28] Equipment and Networking [09:28] desplesda did you die buddy? [09:28] 1. What other equipment is needed for Verizon FiOS Internet Service? [09:28] where do the messages in the virtual console showing the time since boot to 6 decimal places come from? [09:28] What the heck could this be? What could cause the system to run like this when a disk is connected? [09:28] 2. Can I hook up more than one computer with a single Verizon FiOS Internet Service connection? [09:28] 3. Will the wireless adapters I have already work with Verizon FiOS Internet Service? [09:28] [09:28] BROKEN_LADDER: no, you looked like you did [09:28] Installation [09:28] d2dchat: STOP PASTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [09:28] hehe === xukun [n=xukun@gt1989.uvt.nl] has joined #ubuntu [09:28] 1. What's involved in the Verizon FiOS Internet Service Installation process? [09:28] like what packages are broken? [09:28] d2dchat: STOP PASTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [09:28] d2dchat: STOP PASTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [09:28] 2. How long will it take to install my new Verizon FiOS Internet Service? [09:28] 3. What is included with the professional installation? [09:28] 4. How will I know when my Verizon FiOS Internet Service is ready? [09:28] [09:28] Features [09:28] 1. Can I host a Web page? [09:28] 2. Can I access the Internet if I'm traveling? [09:28] 3. How many e-mail accounts come with my Verizon FiOS Internet Service? [09:28] !kb d2dchat [09:28] pipoun: Are you on ritalin? [09:28] god damn d2dchat [09:28] [09:28] bob2: !!!!!!!! [09:28] Current Verizon Services (Phone & DSL) [09:28] 1. Does Verizon FiOS Internet Service require installing an additional phone line? [09:28] !ops [09:28] ops is, like, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth [09:28] d2dchat, stop! [09:28] 2. Can I use my fax machine and the Internet at the same time? [09:29] 3. Will my current phone features work with Verizon FiOS Internet Service? [09:29] 4. What if I have multiple accounts that I receive separate bills on? Will both accounts be put on fiber? [09:29] 5. What will happen if I have multiple phone lines at my home that are on the same bill today? Will all my voice services be put on fiber? [09:29] ubotu, what's a ritalin? [09:29] pipoun: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about [09:29] 6. I am already a Verizon Online DSL customer. Can I [09:29] woops === marie_ [n=marie@210.213.151.240] has joined #ubuntu [09:29] holy shit sorry [09:29] d2dchat: you are, in fact, an idiot... [09:29] i deserve a spank for that one lol [09:29] i did! [09:29] i stopped! [09:29] ahh [09:29] aftertaf, hi again [09:29] BROKEN_LADDER: you're not responding to /msg :P [09:29] d2dchat: we see the paste at about 1 line per second - so there's a backlog [09:29] im just gonna wait until all of my messages came through.. [09:29] where's ubotu to strangle him with a mouse cord? ;) [09:29] desplesda of course i am! [09:29] yea, i figured that out [09:29] aftertaf, what packages do u know of in breezy that are still broken? [09:29] d2dchat: please never do that again........ ;) [09:29] !lart d2dchat === ubotu urinates on d2dchat === neibo [n=bingen@eu85-85-8-38.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #ubuntu [09:29] desplesda i'm answering you in the query [09:30] where do the messages in the virtual console showing the time since boot to 6 decimal places come from? [09:30] i accidentially pasted the wrong stuff, i dont see how, hold on [09:30] kataklysm: it isnt stable, so things can be ok and become broken with new updates..... [09:30] dooglus: that's what kernel output looks like in 2.6.12+ [09:30] ubotu, btw I prefer kava to ritalin [09:30] pipoun: I give up, what is it? [09:30] aftertaf, can ubunto support any lan games?? === HaNazir [n=yahalom@1-18-132-169.idt.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:30] this has happened since yesterday with restricted modules for the new kernel update. [09:30] if breezy boots well with a vanilla kernel im replacing hoary with it today [09:30] dooglus: edit /etc/init.d/klogd, add -c3 to KLOGD_OPTIONS, restart it [09:30] What application Can I use to burn my files into a cd [09:30] aftertaf, i havent been updating, i am going to wait until its final and dist-upgrade [09:30] bob2: is there any way to get it to go to a file instead of the virtual consoles? [09:30] jeavis: the file manager does that out of the box [09:30] d2dchat, they say my state doesn't exist. i wouldn't do business with them if they were the only connection to the net. i think they're a horrible company. [09:30] dooglus: as above [09:30] k3b jeavis [09:31] bob2: it's blatting all over this IRC window [09:31] my dear ubotu what are U talking about? [09:31] k3b === [Spooky] [n=spookan_@h205n1c1o1032.bredband.skanova.com] has left #Ubuntu [] [09:31] volvoguy, haha yea, i was just looking at the #;) [09:31] m [09:31] BROKEN_LADDER: weird, i can't see any response from you [09:31] pipoun: ubotu is a BOT, man... [09:31] BROKEN_LADDER: oh well [09:31] !tell pipoun about ubotu [09:31] dooglus: that'll fix it then [09:31] d2dchat, yeah - i know. i'll wait until google takes over the world. [09:31] bob2: ok, i see. what does the "-P" flag to klogd do by the way? [09:31] I,m having a problem installing skype, I,m using hoary and I,m using this howto: "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto?highlight=%28skype%29" but then I get dependencies problem which says: "skype: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>= 3:3.3.3.2) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed" [09:31] desplesda do you see it now?! [09:31] i just pasted a bunch of stuff to you. [09:31] volvoguy, you mean away from Bill? [09:31] in priv chat [09:31] volvoguy, ;) [09:31] BROKEN_LADDER: nope :( [09:32] wtf [09:32] d2dchat, whomever. :) [09:32] I have no idea what to do [09:32] desplesda did you accidentally put me on ignore? [09:32] hey aftertaf pls answer me......:(( [09:32] if i did then i wouldn't be talking to you now [09:32] Madpilot, tks bro... [09:32] volvoguy, wow the security of windows is hilariously aweful === b-movie [n=Bad@dsl-084-057-126-144.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:32] i want to use ubuntu only text based, with no graphiccal interface. is it possible to have a well functioning workstation like that? With SSL support for a text based web browser chat and e-mail? [09:32] desplesda join #wotie [09:32] volvoguy, and why do people always saw linux is insecure?? [09:32] when is breezy suppose to be final? [09:32] marie_: do you have synaptic installed? [09:32] bob2: I don't have any KLOGD_OPTIONS in that file to add to [09:32] what date in oct? [09:32] kataklysm: Oct 13th [09:33] kataklysm: 13 oct [09:33] ;) [09:33] cool [09:33] volvoguy, ive heard from numerious users that linux was insecure [09:33] dooglus: just KLOGD then [09:33] anybody? [09:33] HaNazir: sure === Carpe_Libertatem [n=Miranda@ip68-229-254-250.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:33] hmm [09:33] d2dchat: i heard that windows lasts 4 minutes on the net without antiviral protection and security progs that slow it down even more anyway...... ;) [09:33] Okay guys... if anybody has any theories... I had one disk installed which apparently had a bad block or two... Now I switched it with another hard drive.. and the system just completely stalls on startup and does not want to start up from the Ubuntu startup CD... What is up with the system and this hard disk? [09:33] [09:33] xukun: whatever .deb of skype you have is not going to work on ubuntu hoary [09:33] aftertaf, where can i find that??? [09:34] aftertaf, i read the same article;) [09:34] marie_: do you know about apt? [09:34] bob2: which apps? browser, e-mail, chat. Names plz :) [09:34] d2dchat: ;) [09:34] bob2, so I can forget installing skype on ubuntu? [09:34] bob2: do you think the "-P" in that file is a typo? [09:34] bob2: there's no mention of -P in the klogd man page [09:34] neibo, thank you [09:34] d2dchat, i don't know where people are getting that info either. it must be coming in some non-techie form. my aunt, who knows nothing of computers, thinks i'm nuts because i use linux and firefox and that both are huge security risks. *shrug* [09:34] HaNazir: w3m, mutt, irssi + bitlbee [09:34] xukun: don't be silly [09:34] aftertaf, antiviral and anti-spyware dont even work that wlel anyway [09:34] aftertaf, dis is my 1st tym to use linux... pls guide me... [09:34] dooglus: yeah, that is odd; I don't know [09:34] volvoguy, lol, I know! what is the deal?? [09:34] bob2: thanx man [09:35] bob2, ? [09:35] marie_: open a console and type this : sudo apt-get install synaptic [09:35] xukun: of course you can use skype on ubuntu [09:35] i need to drug up and not.. sit.. here.. for a while. i'll be back in a bit. [09:35] xukun: whatever .deb you have is not going to work, tho [09:35] xukun: try the static .tar.bz2 [09:35] can any firefox user help with a non-technical question? === along [n=along@202.84.116.28] has joined #ubuntu [09:35] bigfoot1: best to just ask [09:35] bob2, i did. [09:36] hi angel [09:36] bob2, from skype? [09:36] bigfoot1, ask your question, dont ask to ask === pvanhoof [n=pvanhoof@d5152D086.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [09:36] yo wazzup!!!!! ctc? [09:36] bigfoot1: "yes" [09:36] xukun: yes [09:36] how can I know my screen resolution (I'm using KDE) [09:36] bob2, thanks bob2 [09:36] ? [09:36] pipoun: rightclick: configure desktop [09:36] A non-technical favor to ask of any firefox user: I'm trying to make a "quick search from URL bar" for amazon.com books. Could one of you go to amazon.com, select "books" in the dropdown list, right click in the text field (search box), select "make quick search" (or something like that). Then go to your bookmarks and copy and paste the "special url" that firefox made. (I need this info for my Galeon browser) Thank you! [09:37] bob2: is there anyway i can lets say, disable graphical interface for one user and allow xserver for another? [09:37] pipoun: then >display [09:37] HaNazir: sure, but why bother? [09:38] aftertaf, yes but they say that my Xserver doesn't manage that. I can't use randr [09:38] pipoun: to know your screen resolution? [09:38] (I have modified the xorg.conf for dualscreen) [09:38] hmmm. [09:38] aftertaf: wat is nxt?? [09:38] marie_: see your private messages.... ;) [09:39] bob2: i have my reasons :) how would i do that complex? === valtea [n=system@164.100.149.48] has joined #ubuntu [09:39] HaNazir: you'd write a wrapper for the X command and not let people run X themselves [09:39] without a good reason, tho, I'm not really willing to write it for you [09:39] marie_: are you receving my PMs? [09:40] aftertaf: i havnt recieve any... === geneo93 [n=kane@1Cust2475.an4.det15.da.uu.net] has left #ubuntu [] [09:40] bob2: adding -c3 didn't stop the spam. and neither did -c0, -c1, -c7 or -c9. === bhentges [n=bhentges@vodsl-4461.vo.lu] has joined #ubuntu [09:41] (-c0 and -c9 were illegal values, apparently) [09:41] dooglus: did you restart klogd? [09:41] bob2: indeed [09:41] bob2: lol. i'm trying to setup this comp for a client, and he wants only the teachers to have a graphical interface, but not the kids,a s they had a porn problem previously. so they decided, only allow non graphical clients. So they just wanted to use some dos stuff. So I told them, with Linux, you can use many more apps that are just terminal based and you will not lose that much function. [09:41] wow [09:41] sorry life story [09:41] bob2: and a ps shows the -c3 argument [09:41] dooglus: ok, I don't know then [09:41] ubotu: printk [09:41] bob2: No idea [09:41] bah === nalioth_ [n=Apple@cpe-66-25-33-111.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [09:41] dooglus: ask the dpkg bot about printk [09:42] HaNazir: propose dansguardian to them..... ;) [09:42] dooglus: you may need to join #debian-bots [09:42] HaNazir: is there a SDL web browser the kids could use? [09:42] aftertaf: i couldnt configure that thing for the life of me === nalioth [n=Apple@pdpc/supporter/bronze/nalioth] has joined #ubuntu === GrannyTux [n=rustina@d64-180-38-38.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:42] aftertaf: tried for months, cant figure it out :( [09:42] bob2: I don't know what you're talking about. how do you ask bots stuff? [09:43] I think Im in love with the boy who made the Hoary AddOn CD [09:43] !ask [09:43] umm maybe not [09:43] !ubuntu === yjKii [n=tinaiori@81.180.100.105] has joined #ubuntu [09:43] ubuntu is, like, totally, an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian. http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards [09:43] dooglus: /msg dpkg printk [09:43] HaNazir: hehe... never yet tried ;) :/ === yjKii [n=tinaiori@81.180.100.105] has left #ubuntu [] [09:45] bob2: thanks. the bot told me to read a kernel source file - so that's me downloading 40Mb of source to get a 2kb file... :) === ioeaaff [i=Biliana@195.242.245.160] has joined #ubuntu === ioeaaff [i=Biliana@195.242.245.160] has left #ubuntu [] [09:48] dooglus: hrm, suck [09:48] dooglus: the key bit is "kernel.printk to 3 4 1 7" [09:48] bob2: luckily I have a vaguely fast connection [09:49] /msg nickserv set hide email on [09:49] dooglus: which means "edit /etc/sysctl.conf and set that variable, then run sysctl -p" === deelaz`miega [n=Deelaz@84.32.121.46] has joined #ubuntu === deelaz`miega [n=Deelaz@84.32.121.46] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === Knelix2 [n=Knelix2@c-67-191-67-171.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:50] /msg nickserv ident iamaturkey [09:51] What does this mean: "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. " [09:51] Knelix2: to run the command it mentions === ZMuEuaemi [n=tinaiori@81.180.100.105] has joined #ubuntu === ZMuEuaemi is now known as oiPooeode [09:51] Knelix2, where did you get that error? === oiPooeode [n=tinaiori@81.180.100.105] has left #ubuntu [] [09:52] Using the update app.. which has a little circular red icon next to the sound icon. [09:52] how can i remove a partition and make a new one on the same place? === Greensky [n=nin@67-40-250-207.ptld.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu [09:52] hy all i'm tryng to update skype but it aslk to me libqt3c102-mt that it's not present (i'm using breezy) i have only libqt3c102 [09:52] anyone know how to resolve? [09:53] what's the current release version of ubuntu? === da_bon_bon [n=rohan@unaffiliated/dabonbon/x-000000001] has joined #ubuntu [09:53] hoary, 5.04 === explore7 [n=explore7@203.115.164.230] has joined #ubuntu [09:53] TW: install libqt3-mt [09:53] TW: apt-cache search doesnt show it? [09:53] HiddenFly: why bother? just put a new filesystem on it [09:53] bob2: ok, how? [09:54] HiddenFly, thanks... if I'm going to use try ubuntu would you recommend hoary or breezy? [09:54] its a ntfs partition now, i wanna make it ext3 [09:54] (I use linux as my main desktop so this would be on my main home machine) [09:54] hoary is better as it is stable [09:54] HiddenFly: sudo mkfs -t ext3 /dev/whatever === da_bon_bon [n=rohan@unaffiliated/dabonbon/x-000000001] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [09:54] who are the sysops tonight [09:54] bob2: ok thanks === Marxist [n=richard@pool-68-161-14-29.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === aftertaf [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #ubuntu [09:54] bob2: i've just installed libqt3-mt [09:54] HiddenFly: that will destroy the contents of /dev/whatever ireperably, tho [09:54] yea i know [09:55] made backups already [09:55] Burgundavia: I ran the command and it is working now. [09:55] HiddenFly: I mean, be very very careful where you point that loaded gun ;) [09:55] GrannyTux: ? [09:56] HaNazir: sudo apt-cache search libqt3c102-mt [09:56] Password: [09:56] libqt3c102 - Qt GUI Library, Version 3 [09:56] yea i double checked the location [09:56] and as for size it seems to be ok, (180gb) [09:56] you don't need sudo to use apt-cache [09:56] also, that's not the package name I said [09:58] if anyone here has experience with dansguardian and is willing to give me a hand, plz message me. thanx. === hehehe [n=choy@210.213.169.68] has joined #ubuntu === leagris [n=leagris_@mama.noiraude.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:00] can anyone help me?? y i cant use my webcam on this program????? [10:01] hi [10:01] can anyone help me?? y i cant use my webcam on this program????? === bty [n=bty@210.213.194.94] has joined #ubuntu === ghostdog [n=ghostdog@203.177.246.234] has joined #ubuntu [10:01] hehehe: a) please use english, b) not so much punctuation, c) no need to repeat after 7 seconds [10:01] HaNazir: hehe, got you back on that one then ;) === twibbler [n=twibbler@dsl-80-41-121-205.access.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:02] hi twibbler :) [10:02] aftertaf: good morning ..... [10:03] ;) yeah... coffee break time :) [10:03] umm.. wtf? on that partition, it says there is 168,1Gb free, but there should be about 180GB free [10:03] is there a convenient way to connect two linux boxes together via ethernet and share files between them? [10:03] HiddenFly: 5% is reserved for root [10:03] and there are other lossy things [10:03] ok [10:03] you can use tune2fs to change the percentage [10:03] to 0, if you like [10:03] k [10:04] aftertaf: first thing coffee and cig and email..... === TraceGreenbaby [n=Trace@61.149.152.155] has joined #ubuntu [10:04] how can i uninstall a program ,cause my k3b crashed ? [10:04] you want to uninstall k3b? [10:05] yes [10:05] HiddenFly: harddives are marketed with SI-based gigabytes while operating systems use binary units, so 180GB drive is actually 168GiB [10:05] ghostdog: what happened? report a bug.... [10:05] hlp make it better [10:05] ghostdog: well if you really must... sudo aptitude remove k3b ... but k3b is always stable for me... i'd report a bug if you can make it happen again. [10:05] how can i report a bug aftertaf? [10:05] Trewas: yea, but that partition was 180GB on ntfs... the HD is actually 200GB drive [10:06] ok, the media packages in ubuntu are pansy packages [10:06] mplayer is a peice of shit === candlelight [n=animagi@219.94.116.38] has joined #ubuntu [10:06] ghostdog: reinstalling it is unlikely to help [10:06] opteek: don't troll [10:06] opteek: er, try to maintain some level of maturity... [10:06] i am venting [10:06] is there an easy way to direct connect two computers via ethernet? [10:06] opteek: i've yet to have any problems with them. so go whine elsewhere. [10:07] transgress, samba? [10:07] in all the years of using linux, I have never had mplayer crash.. until now [10:07] transgress: plug them in. install nfs-kernel-server. mount each way. [10:07] bob2: thanks [10:07] bob2: ok how can i report a bug, where can i send it ? [10:07] transgress, or what bob2 said. (always take his word over mine :) [10:07] opteek: hoary or breezy [10:07] hoary!!! [10:08] heh thanks anyway for the suggestion volvoguy [10:08] what are those reserved blocks used for btw? [10:08] ghostdog: www.launchpad.net [10:08] opteek: what'd you try playing? instead of fucking whining, why don't you elaborate on the problem. === pitti [n=pitti@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu [10:09] transgress, please watch the language [10:09] I don't know what the problem was, I'm too impatient, i reinstalled from source, but mplayer kept crashing my xserver [10:09] when i tried to run an mp4 file [10:09] Burgundavia: well please watch the language as well... since i'm not the only one to cuss... [10:09] opteek: use vlc for the mp4 file... i believe it handles them better. [10:09] you reinstalled it from source? [10:09] yeah [10:10] it gave me this error" The application K3b(k3b) crashed and caused the signal 6(SIGABRT)" i dont know what to do [10:10] so you aren't even complaining about the ubuntu package? [10:10] no, the ubuntu package was borked [10:10] i reinstalled and not it works [10:10] HiddenFly: so that if the disk is nominally full, you still have space to compress things or whatever to save space === zxsykco [n=zxsykco@adsl-68-75-52-211.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:11] opteek: then it is extrordinarily unlikely to be an issue with the package itself [10:11] bob2: how do you mean === thesaltydog [n=yoshi@host194-61.pool8023.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [10:11] bob2: i installed the deb, and it crashes, i removed it and reinstalled it after updating sources, same prob, i compile from source, works [10:12] with latest kernel update (-9) I have no more disply in console. I can't see the boot process. The screen is dark untile gdm starts.. [10:12] bob2, to be fair, i only compiled the nogui [10:13] bob2, ubuntu was my first every encounter with the mplayer gui, never knew mplayer even had an official gui === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #ubuntu === jords [n=jords@203-118-185-193.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [10:14] What's the root password when booted from the live disc? [10:14] thesaltydog: sounds like usplash being shit [10:14] jords: there isn't one [10:14] bob2: it gave me this error" The application K3b(k3b) crashed and caused the signal 6(SIGABRT)" i dont know what to do [10:14] Hmm... How do i open up a root terminal then? [10:15] jords: use sudo [10:15] trying to su does'nt work [10:15] k [10:15] jords, sudo xterm or somesuch === zxsykco wonders where gmake is .. === mikhail^ [n=mikhail@210.5.118.75] has joined #ubuntu [10:15] zxsykco: this is linux, not bsd === pvanhoof [n=pvanhoof@d5152D086.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [10:15] zxsykco: install build-essential, the command is "make" === Nakkel [n=nakkel@vektori.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:15] bob2, I'm not using usplash. I have vga=791 line on my kopt in grub [10:16] okiedokie then [10:16] okay when i direct connect the two computers... i mean like not through a router... how can i get them to see each other... i mean... like they won't have an IP or anything will they? [10:16] transgress: sure they will === lyca [n=guest@210.213.154.245] has joined #ubuntu [10:16] transgress: they don't care if they're plugged into a hub or plugged into each other (with a crossover cable) [10:16] transgress: just setup /etc/network/interfaces correctly on both sides [10:17] k [10:17] and make sure you dont trip over the cables === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === macintos1r [n=gm@211.cust2.sa.dsl.ozemail.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === zxsykco [n=zxsykco@adsl-68-75-52-211.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:18] bob2, do you know what jedit is [10:19] some sort of crappy non-emacs editor? [10:19] How do I find Synaptic to install my video driver? [10:19] dude [10:19] emacs should have left with the punch cards [10:19] Knelix: system -> admin -> synaptic [10:19] right, customisation is for chumps === David_WI [n=kristy@cpe-66-87-4-181.ut.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ubuntu === barosl [n=barosl@222.99.186.19] has joined #ubuntu [10:20] transgress: and check the cable is plugged in correctly ;) [10:20] bob2: Thanks. :-) === [mark] [n=mark@211.24.144.182] has joined #ubuntu === Stalwart [n=Stalwart@217.199.118.118] has joined #ubuntu [10:20] is there a special reason why jedit is not in the ubuntu repos [10:20] is it written in java? [10:21] i need jre but ubuntuguide.org is incorrect it seems. where do i get it ? [10:21] azureus is in the repos [10:21] bob2, yes. it is. [10:21] David_WI: in multiverse... j2re === vegiVamp [n=demeersm@unimatrix.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [10:21] that would be why then [10:21] please to not be downing the jedit ! === BenderNZ hugs jed [10:21] a.z.u.r.e.u.s [10:21] oh multiverse [10:21] no wonder === volvoguy uses emacs [10:21] thnx [10:21] opteek: free software not being in ubunt is a factor of people not caring enough to put it there [10:21] oh... i see [10:22] if you want it, and it's DFSG-Free, you can join #ubuntu-motu and stat the process of putting it there [10:22] requiring non-free java is pretty shit, tho [10:22] i think [10:22] i am [10:22] :) [10:22] this obsession so many people have with totally free software is largely silly [10:22] and very impractical [10:23] ha ha ha [10:23] it worked so poorly, too === Sionide [n=sphinx@cpc4-hem12-6-0-cust227.lutn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [10:23] everyone should have just used proprietary unix [10:23] then we'd all be happier [10:23] oh, wait [10:23] Where is the terminal? I have lost it... [10:23] there are shades of grey between open and closed source [10:23] insisting on free software got us an entire free OS [10:23] no need to be fanatical [10:23] Oh.. [10:24] bob2: thanks for your help. sysctl was the answer. and -P works by the way, but isn't documented. I'm raising a bug for it now. [10:24] Sorry.. found it [10:24] Knelix: applications -> system [10:24] dooglus: ah, great === Almindor [n=ales@chello217023246161.chello.sk] has joined #ubuntu [10:24] is libc package broken in breezy? [10:24] Almindor: why do you think that? [10:25] the free part of the software means people can poke around and improve it. [10:25] I get lotsa undefined references out of a sudden [10:25] Uhm... How do I make the terminal a window again (no menu bar)- that is switch from full screen to widow? [10:25] Almindor: when running... [10:25] *window === David_WI [n=kristy@cpe-66-87-4-181.ut.sprintbbd.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:26] aftertaf, there are many licences which are 'open source' in the practical sense of the word, but that doesn't stop some people from nitpicking and boycotting just because [10:26] bob2, when linking [10:26] as if life was made up of principles or something [10:26] opteek: e.g.? [10:26] ok.. got it... [10:26] Almindor: when linking *what*? [10:26] hey exactly what is the package name for the jre in multiverse and is the repo url correct at ubuntuguide.org? [10:26] dlopen() :) [10:27] opteek: i repsect both your pov, but i believe my principles make me what i am and how i act. === bachler [i=hidden-u@nat.ksk.sala.se] has joined #ubuntu [10:27] you're dlopen()ing things in libc6? [10:27] then you've already lost [10:27] why so? [10:27] David_WI: its only in breezy [10:27] was it moved? [10:27] David_WI: search for j2re [10:27] I am tired.. [10:28] crud, i forgot not everyone is on breezy... :/ sorry Davey [10:28] er David_WI ... [10:28] oh great this is my sisters 5.04 box [10:28] so.. if i wrote some software, and adopted a hypothetical licence which allowed you to do whatever you want with my software, open source and all, with the caveat that i may rescind this 'feature' at any time [10:28] bob2, explain please, was dlopen() moved out of libc? [10:29] Almindor: what? no === Plazgoth [n=Plazgoth@c-24-2-58-198.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:29] opteek: then you're being an ass [10:29] maybe [10:29] opteek: and it's not free software if you can change your mind later [10:29] opteek: what happens to the 500 000 people using it in ubuntu? [10:30] bob2, you sayed "then you've already lost" what did you mean by that? [10:30] Almindor: I thought you were trying to dlopen() libc6 itself [10:30] bob2, nah :) === jcoxon [n=jcoxon@jac208.caths.cam.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [10:30] Does anyone have time for a Q? [10:31] Plazgoth: fire away [10:31] Almindor: put the error in #flood or something [10:31] but, shouldn't the individual user have the right to choose for himself what software he wants [10:31] I got it Breezy up and running and did all the updates [10:31] newbie users are effectively constrained to the software available in the repositories [10:31] they are not going to go and fetch something elsewhere [10:31] I am getting this error when it tries to upgrade x-common [10:31] opteek 17000+ free packages. [10:31] E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.07_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base === ee_lars [n=jerome@82.252.77.145] has joined #ubuntu === renick [n=renick@61-229-6-24.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:32] opteek, how about windows users that don't have software repositories? does that mean they have zero choice? [10:32] Plazgoth: try dpkg-reconfigure... on xfonts-base and on xfs [10:32] bob2, I think I found the cause.. === ee_lars [n=jerome@82.252.77.145] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:33] installation of windows software is in the majority of cases trivial to the majority of people [10:33] This is my first day with ubuntu so I am not sure how to get by that error [10:33] you download an exe and double click === izmrbcaa [n=istbuddy@85.136.2.241] has joined #ubuntu [10:33] volvoguy: exactly..... repository is not a restraint, its a regrouping of a lot of free stuff reunited and precompiled to save us all from ./configure && make && make install : without even thinking of updates. === izmrbcaa [n=istbuddy@85.136.2.241] has left #ubuntu [] [10:33] opteek: if it isnt in a repository, you can get a tarball. [10:33] opteek: only because they have got used to it ... Linux software in most cases is easy to install ... [10:33] opteek: you're welcome to create your own version of ubuntu that alters the default sources.list if you reallly care [10:34] i dont, though [10:34] jesus h christ make-kpkg takes a long time [10:34] Plazgoth: hmmm... maybe you shouldnt be on breezy then..... ;) [10:34] opteek: and installation via Synaptic is even easier - and a lot safer... [10:34] Plazgoth: does your X server work ok? === Chousuke [i=choubaka@ihme.org] has joined #ubuntu [10:35] Seems to be [10:35] Madpilot, safer then what === Burger^ZzzZz is now known as BurgerMann [10:35] my k3b still crashed :( [10:35] ok.... good ;) dont worry about it for now then. [10:35] ghostdog: file a bug... (i sympathise, though...) [10:35] opteek: safer than a lot of random exes off the web? === canada [n=sewenty@85.136.2.241] has joined #ubuntu === canada is now known as ^ayse === ^ayse [n=sewenty@85.136.2.241] has left #ubuntu [] === tvnz [n=tvanaz@adsl-81-7-92-49.takas.lt] has joined #ubuntu [10:36] what distros did you guys use before ubuntu started === mwest [n=mwest@tsl.uct.ac.za] has joined #ubuntu [10:36] we have a windows park here with 500+ pcs. they all are to the eyes with spyware thx to IE, even though we surf via a proxy. === Gabriel [n=gab@20.mbps.with.optimized.org] has joined #ubuntu [10:37] opteek: debian(80%) / mandrake(20%) [10:37] opteek, slackware for almost 10 years. [10:37] ^^hardcore ;) [10:37] i switched from fc4 [10:37] thats funny aftertaf , ubuntu seems to me to be roughly a hybrid of debian and mandrake in those proportions :) [10:38] slack was my first distro [10:38] lol [10:38] opteek: WinXP... ;) ... this is my first distro... [10:38] congrats === ^ayse [n=sewenty@85.136.2.241] has joined #ubuntu [10:38] yeah... i 2nd that === QaDeS [n=QaDeS@p54A9B247.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu === joka66 [n=radkar66@213.47.47.52] has joined #ubuntu [10:39] slackware was a good learning experience, but it's different enough from debian that i still get lost from time to time. [10:39] hello [10:39] can someone help me install my GTK === ^ayse is now known as corap__m [10:40] opteek: over the last few months I have evaluated various distro's but only ubuntu has come upto scratch to replace the xp systems ... === phrizer [n=lance@60-234-134-230.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #Ubuntu [10:40] valtea, can you elaborate? GTK is installed as part of Gnome. [10:40] best way to connect with ethernet modem = pppoe or rp-pppoe (new modemas of yesterday:) [10:40] ugh [10:40] twibbler: and its just a start [10:41] i'm getting Package pango was not found in the pkg-config search path. [10:41] Perhaps you should add the directory containing `pango.pc' [10:41] to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable [10:41] No package 'pango' found [10:41] valtea: install gnome-devel [10:41] valtea: but what your trying to compile? [10:41] I messed up the X win server by installing the nvidia driver... === seb128 [n=seb128@ANancy-151-1-23-22.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === boulabytes [n=boulabyt@nat-supervi.univ-montp3.fr] has joined #ubuntu [10:41] twibbler, yeah, i think ubuntu has the best desktop out of the box [10:41] How do I get my graphical environment back? === bjorn_ [i=Bjorn@158.38.141.184] has joined #ubuntu [10:41] Knelix: breezy? prop or ubuntu driver? [10:41] actually i tried to install xfce4-4.2.2-installer.ban [10:41] aftertaf: Yep we are moving all desktops to ubuntu .. (Well as soon as I resolve this sound problem)... [10:41] actually i tried to install xfce4-4.2.2-installer.bin [10:41] twibbler: way to go :) [10:42] valtea: er, you know xfce4 is in ubuntu, right? [10:42] aftertaf: Yes, breezy... uhm.. I used the driver Synaptic gave me.. [10:42] and as it is a crappie hardware problem ... new sound card will resolve it ... [10:42] would be easier... [10:42] nope [10:42] does it come with ubuntu [10:42] Knelix: ok.. its a bit broken right now it seems...... change your driver to "vesa" for today..... [10:43] valtea, the package is called "xfce4". [10:43] aftertaf: How do I do that? [10:43] Knelix: what is the specific error message? [10:43] opteek: also rumour is new version of windows needs 2gb mem to run .. [10:43] volvoguy, how do i install it === gerarcone [n=gerarcon@85-18-14-12.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:43] i mean configure / enable [10:43] Knelix: edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf.... === joka66 [n=radkar66@213.47.47.52] has left #ubuntu [] [10:43] has anyone had trouble playing mpeg-2 formats (mainly with .vob files) in mplayer gotten throught an apt-get install? i says that something is wrong with the ao , regardless of which one i try (sdl, alsa, oss a.s.o.) then mplayer crasches (null works though) but there is no such problem with any other video-formats..? [10:43] valtea: "sudo apt-get install xfce4" [10:43] Knelix: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and scroll down till you see "nvidia", change it to "vesa" [10:44] valtea, atha types faster than me. [10:44] what newsreader client do you use? [10:44] i think evolution is too complicated === guest_ [n=guest@202.84.100.17] has joined #ubuntu [10:44] :) [10:44] aftertaf: Well, something about X not being able to start... there's text on the screen, kinda jumbled on the sides. How do I config that?..... ok... but it seems to be hanging (on checking battery status). [10:44] its installing now [10:44] twibbler, you mean longhorn? i ran that on 512 [10:44] :) [10:44] and bunch of other additional packages, find with "apt-cache search xfce4" [10:44] valtea, you can also use synaptic if you'd rather use a gui. [10:44] i nearly gave up [10:44] so i came here as the last resort [10:44] Knelix: nope for the battery, press Alt+F1 [10:44] ok! [10:44] opteek: but not finished yet ... and im only going by rumour ... [10:45] synaptic ?? where is that? [10:45] it sucks, no support for cpu freq scaling with celeron m cpus :( [10:45] we're full of all kinds of useless.. er. useful information. [10:45] valtea: System menu - Admin - Synaptic Packag Mngr [10:45] Knelix: does it say, no screens found? or cant load module, or sth like that? [10:45] okay [10:45] :) [10:45] volvoguy: hehe totally:) [10:45] thanks alot [10:45] nice support [10:45] :) [10:45] i'll come again if i have some more problem [10:46] valtea: you come here, you ask for help, you hang around, you end up replying to others :) [10:46] Bonjour [10:46] hello ;) [10:46] yeah will be here [10:46] has anyone had trouble playing mpeg-2 formats (mainly with .vob files) in mplayer gotten throught an apt-get install? i says that something is wrong with the ao , regardless of which one i try (sdl, alsa, oss a.s.o.) then mplayer crasches (null works though) but there is no such problem with any other video-formats..?... [10:46] i wonder what level of help i will be able to give.. since i'm newbie [10:46] boulabytes: how's montpellier uni ?? [10:46] but i would rather stay [10:46] speaking of.... 6 hours after i sign on, i should probably ask my question. are there any hard drive experts in here atm? like... forensic-type experts? i have a 250Gb drive with a single ext3 partition that apparently has a bad superblock. :( i want my data back. [10:47] so that i can learn from u guys [10:47] nice ;) [10:47] aftertaf: It says "command not found". [10:47] :-/ [10:47] volvoguy, use the livecd or knoppix [10:47] valtea: thats what 'm doing.... ubuntu since last month ;) [10:47] valtea, just hang around. soon you'll know the answers to questions and be able to type faster than some of us. :) [10:48] volvoguy, i dont know if it supports ext3 [10:48] ColonelKernel, any specific tools? I've already thrown "gpart" at it and it didn't detect the partition table. [10:48] but there are some [10:48] windows programs === usuario_ [n=usuario@83.230.233.226] has joined #ubuntu [10:48] which can recoiver datas [10:48] volvoguy, then your drive is screwed and youve lost all the data on it [10:48] time to reformat [10:48] valtea, i've tried a few. not much luck. [10:48] aftertaf: I had written it wrong... got it now.. === T6 [n=Jan@dsl-082-082-080-064.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:49] Knelix: hehe ok.... scroll down and you'll find the video card section. [10:49] ColonelKernel, unfortunately this is a "time to spend a lot of money to get your data back". [10:49] volvoguy, :(( === TiffOn [i=user@218.Red-217-126-197.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:49] i was in the process of saving for a second drive to do RAID1 for a little safety net. i didn't get that far though. === indypende [n=indypend@d83-176-67-171.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu [10:50] aftertaf: I see "Screen" with the text "NVIDIA Corporation NV34 (GeForce FX 5200)" [10:50] volvoguy, try steller [10:50] i noticed there's a package in universe called "forensic tools" (or something similar). is anyone familiar with that? === thesaltydog [n=yoshi@host194-61.pool8023.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === AngryParsley [n=AngryPar@ool-457619d7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:51] Knelix: nearly ..... [10:51] with latest kernle update (-9) I loast my console display. Can't see the booting process. Also, linux-restricted modules (-9) is not installed as it is broken.. === ^rob1 [n=daci@82.79.28.160] has joined #ubuntu [10:52] Knelix: up a bit, scetion "device" [10:52] <^rob1> hi [10:52] valtea, ok. will do. I've already tried "Nucleus" and "RLinux" - neither could detect the partition. [10:52] volvoguy: it turns you in to one of the CSI:Miami policetechs ;) [10:52] thesaltydog: it seems so, yes :/ [10:52] ok... "nvidia" [10:52] kemik, rock on! i should have installed it months ago! [10:52] aftertaf: I change "nvidia" to "VESA"? [10:52] lol kemik ..... [10:52] aftertaf, so, it is known.. it's not my fault :-) [10:52] Knelix: to "vesa" [10:52] <^rob1> how do i update a package - i have skype x.12 and the new ver is x,17 - is threre a way to update the package using dpkg ?? === henry [n=henry@203.215.77.251] has joined #ubuntu [10:53] aftertaf: ok... done. [10:53] ^rob1: did you install with apt from their repos? [10:53] aftertaf, wouldn't "nv" be better for Knelix ? [10:53] <^rob1> or i must purge skype then reinstall [10:53] Knelix: ok... you on gnome or kde? [10:53] <^rob1> no skype is not in the repo === Almindor [n=ales@chello217023246161.chello.sk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [10:53] <^rob1> i installed using dpkg - [10:53] aftertaf: Gnome [10:53] <^rob1> dpkg -i packagename.deb [10:53] volvoguy: dunno..... seems that could be broken right now in breezy..... [10:53] Knelix: ok... type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart [10:53] aftertaf, it's not. i have the same card. [10:54] aftertaf, "nvidia" is indeed broken though. [10:54] volvoguy: heheok.... he can change it with gedit once X up :) [10:54] volvoguy: good to know ;) thx [10:54] aftertaf, anytime. :) === ogra [n=ogra@p5089E44E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:54] nv or vesa? hmm.... [10:54] volvoguy is nowknown as Grisham ;) [10:55] Knelix: seems you can use nv too.... vesa is a genric for all cards. [10:55] volvoguy: there are a few programs out there to recover "lost data" ... but if you *really* want that data back you could contact a professional service [10:55] i don't get it. [10:55] Anyway, how do I get out of here? === Sonderblade [n=bjourne@213.131.147.169] has joined #ubuntu [10:55] volvoguy: CSI ;) [10:55] Out of "GNU nano"? [10:55] aftertaf, oooooh. gotcha. :) === r7 [n=r7@82-38-184-79.cable.ubr03.shef.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [10:55] How do I save and exit? [10:55] volvoguy, you can try http://www.unistal.com/quick_recovery_LINUX.html and http://www.stellarinfo.com/linux-data-recovery.htm === larsrohdin [n=lars@ad-f-216.finet.se] has joined #ubuntu === jroes [i=jroes@everest.sosdg.org] has joined #ubuntu === jYfuiei [n=ypfueepl@81.180.100.105] has joined #ubuntu [10:56] <^rob1> ?? === ^AnK^ [n=ank@202.152.170.254] has joined #ubuntu [10:56] kemik, the drive will sit in a closet for a year before i can afford a professional service. if i can even save 50% of the data myself, i'd be happy. === jYfuiei [n=ypfueepl@81.180.100.105] has left #ubuntu [] [10:56] Knelix: Ctl + X itll ask to confirm save before exit [10:56] "nv" seems to work fine for me, breezy with the card gf5200 afaik === Adross [n=drew@168.9.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [10:57] Hi, I read on slashdot that open office 1.1.5 has been released. When will it be available from apt-get, or is there some repositories I can add to download it? [10:57] aftertaf: It's telling me "Permission Denied".... [10:57] Im using Hoary now === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa107.1.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu [10:58] Knelix: did you run nano with sudo???? (sudo nano yourfile) [10:58] larsrohdin: possibly in breezy, or wait for it to appear in backports [10:58] <^rob1> well? === ^rob1 is now known as elster [10:58] Knelix: if not, quit out, do it again with sudo (and put nv ;) ) [10:58] kemik, ok... how is breezy now? is it stable? === [mark] [n=mark@211.24.144.182] has joined #ubuntu [10:58] aftertaf: I thought it would already recognize me as root... [10:58] valtea, thanks. i think i ran across both of those in my search last night, but started out with the less expensive options first. i'll give those a try next. i do find it a bit odd that there are so many linux data recovery programs that run on windows. *shrug* === housetier [n=housetie@dsl-084-056-156-174.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu === housetier_ [n=housetie@dsl-084-056-156-174.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [10:59] Knelix: you arent root though, right? [10:59] bob2: in case you care... the -P flag to klogd tells it to read from a different place than the default /proc/kmsg which is only readable by root. it means that klogd doesn't need to run as root. [10:59] running ubuntu breezy via vmware. However, when i try to change the resolution, I am presented with a series of brown lines. As vmware does not interface directly with ones 3d card, installing a driver is impossible. So does anyone know how i can change the res, without getting these brown lines of death? [10:59] think they're bug-hunting.. i'd wait till 0ct13 to be sure [10:59] windows BSOD breezy vmware BLOD :) [10:59] ok, I guess I can wait 'til then as well... === elster is now known as ^rob1 === housetier [n=housetie@dsl-084-056-156-174.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:00] okay comming bak to my xfce [11:00] uh oh. lupin is on. i think that marks my bedtime. === trigger_ph [n=jon@WSN-0000165.websprinter.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:01] i think the installatyion have went correctly [11:01] but now [11:01] how will i use use it [11:01] i mean [11:01] aftertaf: Restarting [11:01] i wanted my ubuntu to look like windows [11:01] valtea: log out of X, and choose xfce in the session manager [11:01] Knelix: ok... ;) [11:01] valtea, just log out of gnome (log out, end session) and when you log back in, click on the sessions button and select XFCE. [11:02] dooglus: ahhh [11:02] aftertaf, can i make it default? [11:02] valtea: i wanted my windows to look like an OS ;) [11:02] <^rob1> ok [11:02] <^rob1> part === ^rob1 [n=daci@82.79.28.160] has left #ubuntu [] [11:02] session manager should open the last one u used. [11:02] valtea, yeah. you can. [11:02] valtea: Why? Dump that pile of crap... explore new looks and ways of interacting. === laurie [n=laurie@c220-237-146-207.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [11:03] actually we are planning to implement Ubuntu in our office [11:03] and users have to be little familiar [11:03] :) [11:03] BRB [11:03] o [11:03] oops. === bigfoot1 [n=hideseek@FLH1Acf042.fko.mesh.ad.jp] has joined #ubuntu [11:04] i'm turning in for the night. thanks for all the help everyone! see ya tomorrow! [11:04] valtea: I understand. But it would be a great disservice to Linux if all users expected and wanted it to look like Windoze or any other OS. [11:04] has anydown gotten the free (no-ads) opera yet? There is a .deb file available tailored just for UBuntu. How do I install the deb file? [11:04] correction: "has any one..." [11:04] I see ubuntu has a fridge now! [11:04] <[Wiebel] > er? === _Rappy_ [n=hunt-pre@dsl-253-122.monet.no] has joined #ubuntu [11:05] bigfoot1: download it from opera.com and do dpkg -i .deb [11:05] bigfoot1: sudo dpkg -i .deb [11:05] thanks goo_ ! have you installed it yoursef? === Orunitia [n=ben@69-172-23-123.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:05] why is it... that synaptic insisted on removing every last x.org file === Orunitia sits here staring at bitchx [11:05] bigfoot1: Yes. But it still sucks even if it's ad-free, imnsho. [11:06] i like firefox, but i don't use it because of memory leaks. When it gets fixed, then maybe I'll return to fx. [11:06] bigfoot1: I tried the ubuntu package but it didn't work (with breezy). I ended up with the opera-static .deb file, and that's working great. [11:06] bigfoot1: you got too little memory, then ;) [11:06] dooglus, i use hoary. do you think it will be fine? [11:06] can anyone help me get my graphics working again? [11:06] bigfoot1: you could try it... [11:06] goo_, yes, i have a 4 year old computer. [11:06] Orunitia, did you actually remove xorg ? === cOrdon [n=deus@I10b0.i.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu [11:06] I didn't notice it in the 300 some odd updates and did on accident [11:07] goo_, maybe one day i can get another pc. but for now this one will do for basic stuff. === chavo [n=chavo@94.sub-70-196-79.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:07] just installed a fresh breezy and didn't think it would do anything THAT stupid [11:07] bigfoot1: I think the problem was that it was dynamically linked against a qt (kde) library. I don't have that filth on my machine. :) [11:07] Orunitia, always keep your eyes open in in unstable/breezy [11:07] deFrysk, indeed... still didn't think the default thing it would do first is remove x.org [11:08] dpkg said: opera depends on libqt3c102-mt; however: [11:08] Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed. [11:08] dooglus, goo_ , the deb file i downloaded is named blahblahSARGEblahblah.deb. will a sarge work fine on a hoary? [11:08] Orunitia, just wait till the deps match again and do a dist-upgrade then [11:08] My DE has frozen .... [11:09] bigfoot1: that's the one I'm talking about. it seems to want 'libqt3c102-mt' installed, which isn't in the (breezy) repositories. [11:09] why did stupid opera go free ? [11:09] Hi! [11:09] everyone having probs installing it === valtea [n=system@164.100.149.48] has joined #ubuntu [11:09] no wonder it went free [11:09] deFrysk, i think coz they want to garner the multitudes. now they make money with support service. [11:10] bigfoot1: the Opera 8.5 I installed yesterday was sarge and it's running fine === dave23 [n=root@235.sub-69-78-194.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:10] bigfoot1, like embedded [11:10] dooglus, i had no error messages when i did that sudo dpkg -i .deb command. [11:10] I want to install 5.10 preview. Will I be able to upgrade to final by apt-get dist-upgrade? [11:10] deFrysk: they make most of their money from selling their browser for embedded systems (organisers, phones and the like) anyway. giving it away on the desktop will increase userbase and hence compatability [11:10] bigfoot1: you're probably ok then [11:10] ubotu: opera is If you're using hoary, install libqt3c102-mt. If you're using breezy, libqt3-mt. [11:10] ...but opera is already something else... [11:10] cOrdon: yes you will. [11:10] thanks, dooglus. [11:10] ubotu: opera depends is If you're using hoary, install libqt3c102-mt. If you're using breezy, libqt3-mt. [11:10] bob2: okay [11:10] this xfce did not work as i think [11:10] lol === spo0nman [n=pankaj@unaffiliated/spo0nman] has joined #ubuntu [11:10] !tell bigfoot1 about opera === Almindor [n=ales@chello217023246161.chello.sk] has joined #ubuntu [11:11] !tell me about opera === brownie17 [n=fraser@static-203-87-6-82.vic.chariot.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [11:11] aftertaf: that's nice. will it work *in practice* without hassles? [11:11] valtea: stick with gnome or kde if your pc is recent enough..... [11:11] bob2, it seems 2.3.5 has only __libc_dlclose while 2.3.4 also has _dl_close [11:11] how do I disable the graphical boot in breexy? [11:11] cOrdon: it is mostly stable (sometimes ;)) in practise yeah.... [11:11] !tell madpilot about thanks === uZeiuoMiqa [n=qsehiayr@offset.atlantis.bg] has joined #ubuntu === uZeiuoMiqa is now known as oiPDrufiO [11:12] !botsnack [11:12] :) === oiPDrufiO [n=qsehiayr@offset.atlantis.bg] has left #ubuntu [] [11:12] lol bigfoot1 [11:12] cOrdon: but if you need to tinker around a bit, mak sure you know how to (getting X working etc) === oiPDrufiO [n=qsehiayr@offset.atlantis.bg] has joined #ubuntu [11:12] When will Breezy Badger become an official (non-preview) release? [11:12] !tell DeFrysk about lol [11:12] :D === oiPDrufiO [n=qsehiayr@offset.atlantis.bg] has left #ubuntu [] [11:13] !tell DeFrysk about emoticons [11:13] Knelix: oct 13 [11:13] 20 days and counting.... ;) [11:13] aftertaf: Cool. :-) === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === Kinomees [n=kinomees@85.196.202.25] has joined #ubuntu === sorush21 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [11:13] Almindor: you're really only using dlclose()? [11:13] aftertaf: ok, i'll try it. i'm an experienced user. just wanted some comment, thank you! [11:13] Almindor: touching symbols starting with _ sounds like something only people who hack libc should be doing [11:14] cOrdon: it is quite wrth the wait, and im not that experiences but i get around and make it work all the same ;) [11:14] thanks for helping me with opera, dooglus, Madpilot [11:14] bigfoot1: np [11:14] thanks, goo_ [11:14] **group hug$$ :) [11:15] ;) bye [11:15] bob2, It's from another language === cOrdon [n=deus@I10b0.i.pppool.de] has left #ubuntu ["Verlassend"] [11:15] I seem to have opened a virus in Ubuntu, and it initiated wine, it was a .doc file... and my HDD is still working.. can someone help please.. [11:15] bob2, they link to libc to use dlclose() etc. [11:15] sorush21: that was dumb [11:16] bob2, seems like there were symbol changes between 2.3.4 and 2.3.5 regarding it tho [11:16] loool sorush20 :) it opened wine... that is quite funny [11:16] sorry for laughing, but.... [11:16] Almindor: what language is this? [11:16] sorush20: sudo killall wine ? [11:16] bob2, object pascal [11:16] hah [11:16] bob2: could it effect my computer.. [11:16] bob2, hah? [11:16] so thats how you get virusses in a *nix environment ? [11:17] virii ;) [11:17] Okay guys. Thanks for all the help and chat. It's way too late... gotta go to bed... C 'ya. :-) [11:17] ;) [11:17] aftertaf, virussians , sorry ;p [11:17] sorush21: sure [11:17] sorush21: if you let anythin run as your user, it could delete all your data, then sniff your password and get root via sudo === bty [n=bty@210.213.194.94] has joined #ubuntu [11:18] which is better, pppoe or rp-pppoe? [11:18] ubuntu uses the latter and calls it the former === irvin [n=irvin@203.215.115.150] has joined #ubuntu === beezly [n=beezly@2001:630:63:16:230:1bff:feb7:2528] has joined #ubuntu [11:18] killall wine would shut it down. === zakame [n=sbox20@203.213.222.22] has joined #ubuntu [11:19] any .exe would startup wine [11:19] bob2: it has made all these files in the c dirve of the wine directroy.. [11:19] so a whatever virus.exe also would startup wine [11:21] deFrysk: I don't think any .exe file is able to affect anything outside of wine === AiihuSdOo [n=oyiqihyl@81.192.15.72] has joined #ubuntu === AiihuSdOo [n=oyiqihyl@81.192.15.72] has left #ubuntu [] === vinboy [n=vinboy@60-234-137-136.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu [11:21] deFrysk: it can mess up your pretend windows machine of course [11:21] hi guys [11:21] dooglus, true, making wine a good environment to test virii :D [11:21] why ma I unable to install the w43codecs [11:21] I'd be really really really surprised if wine was secure in that sense [11:21] hmm 34codecs [11:22] 43 even [11:22] lol [11:22] i mean 32codecs [11:22] deFrysk: quite often if I download porn from bittorrent it comes as a .exe with a spyware bundle attached. I can run the .exe in wine to get the porn out, then delete the wine stuff that got infected. [11:22] !tell vinboy about restricted formats [11:22] bob2, are you a developer for ubuntu [11:22] opteek: slightly [11:22] bob2, do you maintain any packages [11:22] cool [11:23] opteek: in debian, yes [11:23] bob2, debian developer? === cheesie [n=steffan@user-1030.l1.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === emile [n=emile@cp665411-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu === aftertaf [n=david@sara2lee.agns.fr] has joined #ubuntu [11:23] opteek: not yet === ieoiuibo [n=oyiqihyl@81.192.15.72] has joined #ubuntu [11:23] ubotu tell cheesie about java === ieoiuibo [n=oyiqihyl@81.192.15.72] has left #ubuntu [] [11:23] device-mapper: dm-linear: Device lookup failed <-- what does this mean [11:23] !sunjava [11:23] For Sun-Java debs add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list (for hoary) deb http://ubuntu.tower-net.de/ubuntu/ hoary java ; or go to seveas.ubuntulinux.nl (for Breezy) === zakame [n=sbox20@203.213.222.22] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === adnans [n=adnans@linuxgoeroe.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:23] bob2, i used to maintain some packages for sarge === paulfox [n=phendric@host81-138-210-156.in-addr.btopenworld.com] has joined #ubuntu === Lutomes [i=lutomes@60-241-0-102.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [11:24] later, all. Need some sleep... === Madpilot [n=yh728@S0106000d88b9f3db.gv.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu [] === oeaeihVo [n=oyiqihyl@81.192.15.72] has joined #ubuntu === oeaeihVo [n=oyiqihyl@81.192.15.72] has left #ubuntu [] === iDeqwceQoc [n=emeaosoo@195.242.246.30] has joined #ubuntu === iDeqwceQoc [n=emeaosoo@195.242.246.30] has left #ubuntu [] [11:26] can anyone give me some help installing ubuntu === henk [n=Henk@cp11902-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:27] !tell Lutomes about ask === slept [n=sebi@dsl-084-056-184-095.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:27] ohh nice help thingy [11:28] Lutomes, ubotu is your friend [11:28] is there an antivirus program I can run on my computer [11:28] sorush20: using windows ?...... === neibo [n=bingen@eu85-85-8-38.clientes.euskaltel.es] has joined #ubuntu [11:29] my problem with the install is i get to a screeen where its about to parittion the disk [11:29] and it says "!! Partition disks" [11:29] "??? ????" [11:29] proxy died again.... reposting what i said into a broken pipe! [11:29] bob2: ok... i had pbs setting up my ethernet modem last night, i got connected, had an IP but it would drop after a few seconds.... found out i didnt have pppoe package instaled.... a good explanation for the pbs. [11:30] and wont let me continue [11:30] sorush20: being serious though antivir has a linux project going on at the moment ..... [11:30] Lutomes, yes , you need a partition so set up linux on [11:30] i installed it and rp-pppoe, but i gather the gui is only for first time connection, right? [11:30] twibbler: ubuntu.. [11:30] yeah, but i cant set a parition, it wont let me go any further [11:30] sorush20: yes.... clam, fprot === cheesie [n=steffan@user-1030.l1.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:30] the drive is a 8gb quantm fireball, and it works fine in windows [11:30] Lutomes, want to wipe the whole disk ? [11:31] ubuntu detects my 6.4gb drive and goes further in the partition drive screeen - but i dont want to format that other drive [11:31] yeah, i'd be fine wiping the whole drive === jUCFHamqec [n=emeaosoo@195.242.246.30] has joined #ubuntu [11:31] its an empty 8gb === sith31 [n=sith31@AToulouse-252-1-26-99.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [11:31] Lutomes: maybe a ide master/slave problem... try changing which one it is on. [11:31] Lutomes, then select that drive first and let ubuntu partition it === Nermal [n=pprior@pc2.packadsl.ftech.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [11:31] aftertaf: Intersting ? do you need a virus checker for Linux?.... === jUCFHamqec [n=emeaosoo@195.242.246.30] has left #ubuntu [] [11:31] twibbler: nope... ;) maybe just for mail scanning [11:31] no [11:32] already changed between master/slave, and changing it to the other ide channel and switching master/slave too [11:32] Lutomes, what aftertaf said [11:32] if you have windows clients ;) [11:32] aftertaf: exactly .... === oauiiexoa [n=emeaosoo@195.242.246.30] has joined #ubuntu === Almindor [n=ales@chello217023246161.chello.sk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:32] Lutomes: hmmm weird. uncle google come up wth anything? [11:32] sorush20: does that answer your ? .... [11:32] aftertaf: that' very odd === oauiiexoa [n=emeaosoo@195.242.246.30] has left #ubuntu [] [11:33] twibbler: yes.. thanks.. but is there a gui for clam [11:33] google only says that quantum drives die, but nothing in relation to google [11:34] ^^ nothing in relation to ubuntu [11:34] sorush20: I dont think so which is why I suggested the antivir project for linux... just do a google search for antivir ... [11:34] Lutomes: new machine with old drives? [11:34] what are the most common filesharing (ports) clients, because I don't do it , I dont know what ports to google for. I want to create some firewall rules [11:35] its a slightly old machine, with an mid age drive [11:35] the drive works fine in windows, thats whats weird [11:35] i might just find another drive and try that first [11:35] bob2: i thgouht so too. but first time with pppoe so i didnt know if id done sth wrong... [11:35] then worry about this drive later on [11:35] Lutomes: try switching to console and using fdisk on it. [11:36] Lutomes: ahh ok.. just found some drives do weird stuff with master/slave/cable select. I had a new machine on my desk today that required me to use cable select on the drive so that it'd boot. [11:36] bob2: that is why i got rp-pppoe tarball [11:36] slept, why would you want to google port numbers? [11:36] slept, jou may want to close everything from wan incoming connexions except for the ports you realy needs. Though, I recommand seeking somr firewalling tutorials for basic principles. [11:36] aftertaf: you will appreciate this ... printer not working so checked all settings .. couldn't find anything wrong ... (No paper) ..... [11:36] opteek, to close them [11:37] twibbler: hehe.... is that cable connected???;) === lala2005 [i=ravi@202.83.44.170] has joined #ubuntu [11:37] hi [11:37] leagris, no Im looking for the outgoing traffic [11:37] slept, recommanded default policy is CLOSED [11:37] slept, why would they be open unless you're running filesharing clients/servers?? [11:37] slept: they are closed by default [11:37] thanks for the help so far === arkais is now known as arkais_gteando [11:37] hopefully i'll get it working [11:37] cya [11:37] slept, all ports are closed unless implicitly being used [11:37] did somebody get the latest version of ubuntu? [11:37] lala2005: a lot of us ;) [11:38] aftertaf, no I got a stupid router and I want to stop my users using them/it [11:38] so, how would you guys describe the stability of the unstable branch of ubuntu === cheesie [n=steffan@user-1030.l1.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [11:38] I didn't now ubuntu had an unstable branch [11:39] I didn't know ubuntu had an unstable branch [11:39] does it? [11:39] opteek: not too bad. depends on which day and which broken package.... [11:39] lala2005: breezy is the new version. due oct 13th [11:39] lala2005, the latest version is the unstable [11:39] slept, : so you want to deny any destintion ports except some allowed port related to services like HTTP ... ? === salutis [n=salutis@195.91.119.138] has joined #ubuntu [11:39] <^AnK^> helloooo.... newbie here..... [11:39] <^AnK^> haven't tried ubuntu yet [11:39] <^AnK^> :D [11:39] ^AnK^, wat are you using [11:40] <^AnK^> Win XP -.-' [11:40] Lutomes, did you try to enter all values for the drive in your bios instead of selecting auto, once that helped me. My problems were caused because of the ide chipset [11:40] <^AnK^> I have ordered Ubuntu [11:40] ^AnK^, check http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com - might be of some help to you. It helped me a lot [11:40] <^AnK^> how long will it take to reach my home? [11:40] do you have high speed internet? [11:40] leagris, yes ,but I can only set round 8 roules :( === dtamas [n=dtamas@IP-115.c-211.TvNetWork.Hu] has joined #ubuntu [11:41] slept, that may bi ok with 8 rules though === heatxsink [n=jmioph@c-24-7-127-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:41] <^AnK^> ehmmmmm [11:41] <^AnK^> nob [11:41] ^AnK^, why did you choose ubuntu [11:42] slept : lan -> net TCP/UDP DENY [11:42] <^AnK^> ah, my friend recommend it === kuroy00 [n=kuroy00@61.9.117.138] has joined #ubuntu [11:42] lan -> NET TCP Dest port 80 Allow [11:42] <^AnK^> substitute for the greedy microsoft [11:42] opteek, I think ubuntu is cool except the sound configuration which sucks === liable [n=linux@203-49-185-76.dsl.dodo.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [11:42] leagris, but if I want to open all ports my users might need other than fileshareing it should be more to configure. I don't want to restrict everything [11:43] lan -> NET TCP Dest port 443 allow.. [11:43] lala2005, what do you mean === BurgerMann is now known as EspressoMann [11:43] is that udev thing alright to update in breezy now? [11:44] heatxsink: yep... fixed. [11:44] opteek, I meant I had a huge headache in configuring sound in ubuntu which I was able to successfully configure in fedora === serge [n=serge@gw-out.smart.vn.ua] has joined #ubuntu === WebLOCH [n=baris@82-34-95-143.cable.ubr05.gill.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [11:44] any help there w/ regards in installing yahoo messenger [11:44] good day all [11:44] so I just update it and I don't have to do anything right [11:44] ? [11:44] opteek, other than that, it is a very good distro fit for new users [11:44] kuroy00: you can use gaim or kopete... [11:44] <^AnK^> lala2005: I opened the page, but understand nothing... I think I'll just be a spectator... normal user :P [11:44] its asking for a libssl0.6 when i have already libssl0.7 [11:44] lala2005, oh, i had sound detected auto [11:44] heatxsink: yep update and dist-upgrade [11:45] opteek: me too :) [11:45] opteek, which sound card do you have === marcin_ant [n=marcin@www.e-dev.tele2.pl] has joined #ubuntu [11:45] im looking for some audio assistance [11:45] lala2005, yes, i would say it is the best distro for non computer geeks coming straight from windows === stephank [n=stephank@ip503dc86f.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:45] lala2005, creative soundblaster live gold === nomidnes [n=nomidnes@202.36.179.65] has joined #ubuntu [11:46] is it possible to force ubuntu to reload all modules without rebooting ? === cfuerst [n=cfuerst@cm127-174.liwest.at] has joined #ubuntu [11:47] WebLOCH, by rerunning udev ? === eNXNiOea [n=oieiik@85.99.150.232] has joined #ubuntu === eNXNiOea [n=oieiik@85.99.150.232] has left #ubuntu [] [11:47] leagris, I don't understand what you mean, im stilla n00b === cfuerst [n=cfuerst@cm127-174.liwest.at] has left #ubuntu ["Verlassend"] [11:47] WebLOCH, sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart [11:47] leagris, I added some aliases i think are incorrect [11:47] agg [11:47] ahh [11:47] It will regenerate the devices === _TomB [n=ownthebo@ACD7A105.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu === lala2005 [i=ravi@202.83.44.170] has left #ubuntu [] [11:48] WebLOCH, with lsmod you get a list of your loaded modules , with rmmod you can remove them with insmod you can load them === eNXNiOea [n=oieiik@85.99.150.232] has joined #ubuntu [11:48] anyone in here have problems setting up LIRC in breezy? === eNXNiOea is now known as gIGSbYe [11:48] thanks slept, but it was reloading rather than manually doing all === gIGSbYe is now known as oloIuh [11:48] and the madwifi drivers too? === nomidnes [n=nomidnes@202.36.179.65] has joined #ubuntu [11:48] Anyone fancy tackling my audio problems? I have a common realtek card... === oloIuh [n=oieiik@85.99.150.232] has left #ubuntu [] [11:48] does ubuntu automatically mount Floppy Disks? === oO[NOVA] Oo [n=NovaFlas@sev.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu [11:49] WebLOCH, if you got a soud problem there shouldn't be problems with the non sound modules [11:49] slept, I didnt say that there was... [11:49] kuroy00: dont think so... its more mechanical than a flashdrive or cd. [11:49] Webloch: is it built into the main board or a seperate card ?... [11:49] slept, I attempted to load some sound modules as none were loaded... [11:50] twibbler, integrated High Def Audio === talios [n=amrk@202-74-217-142.ue.woosh.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu [11:50] twibbler, part of an ASUS P5WD2 Premium [11:50] so how can I access/open floppy drives? [11:50] Apparently ALSA is installed correctly === telemaco [n=telemaco@71.Red-81-36-85.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [11:51] kuroy00: mount /media/floppy === zMoPoiio [n=oieiik@85.99.150.232] has joined #ubuntu [11:51] WebLOCH, what are your soundproblems ? you got /dev/dsp ? [11:51] WebLoch: I have same problem with integrated realtek card .... need to recompile the Asla driver ... which I cannot seem to do .... on the Realtek web site they have a driver download ... which is the Alsa source ... but it wont recompile ... === zMoPoiio is now known as SRidevTej === ben [n=ben@69-172-23-123.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === ben is now known as Orunitia === SRidevTej is now known as JQffYuha === ol [i=ol@cpe-24-24-143-62.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [11:51] okay why exactly does apt want to remove all of my x.org files again?.... === JQffYuha [n=oieiik@85.99.150.232] has left #ubuntu [] [11:51] twibbler, it doesnt need that I was in here a few days ago and someone helped me fix it without going through the recompiling route === gus [n=gus@62-15-242-12.inversas.jazztel.es] has joined #ubuntu [11:52] it works!!!! [11:52]
    is this the place i can ask questions without getting yelled at? [11:52] Orunitia: did you annoy it?;) [11:52] slept, I have no audio device registered with the system, someone helped me fix it a few days ago, but a poor upgrade to breezy left me needing to format [11:52] can anyone tell me what the heck EVMS is [11:52] WebLOCH: oh now im interested .... HOW! ...... [11:52] aftertaf , other way around [11:52] ol: yes... but dont paste or flod or you will get yelled at :] [11:52] is that for managing raid arrays and the such? [11:52] Orunitia: ;) [11:52] twibbler, I wish I could remember, there was definately no compiling involved and I already had the latest version of Alsa, as I do now... [11:53] Orunitia: breezy or hoary? [11:53] breezy [11:53] Orunitia, snap - I see my apt wanting to remove all the X.org as well ( breazy ) [11:53] i tried "sudo mount /media/floppy" but nothing happen [11:53] Orunitia: ok. latest update you're doing? [11:53] guess I'm not doing updates for a while :\ [11:53]
      jawsome, heres my problem... Seems like there are a couple threads on it with no real resolution.. Im trying to install ubuntu on my new laptop and it freezes on the first reboot after copying stuff after the CD... always while trying to start hotplug [11:53] I just downloaded this iso tonight [11:53] kuroy00: try "mount /media/floppy0" === Nermal is now known as LastDayAndDrunk [11:53] ol, is that the breezy install ? [11:53] talios: at least I'm not the only one [11:54]
        believe so [11:54] at least in this system the fstab entry points to /media/floppy0 [11:54] !evms [11:54] hmm... evms is the "Enterprise Volume Management System" [11:54]
          i can tell you in a second when it reboots, im doing the install again [11:54] aftertaf, I see the same as Orunitia - latest updates seem to want to remove X [11:54] X.org that it [11:54] ol, my copy of breezy does the same because it doesnt like my mouse/keyb set, I assume its just a bug [11:54] talios: not that it's a good thing it's doing that for you too >_> just nice to know it's not only my problem [11:54] is - gah [11:54] WebLOCH: I also have latest alsa but using Hoary... tried breezy same problem ... need to resolve though .... as Im about to put in seperate sound card .. could do without the expense .. === zblach [n=zblach@Toronto-HSE-ppp3726858.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [11:54] yeah - so a regular ol home user with the basic /boot, /, swap setup wont be using evms right? [11:54]
            well is there a way to fix it? === sedak [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [11:55]
              this is a laptop so obviously i cant change the keyboard and mouse [11:55] talios: Orunitia checking now. [11:55] twibbler, im about 100% sure it can be fixed, Im trying to remember who helped before, dabaR referred me to the guy, he was in here === lothario [n=lothario@86.pool6.dsl8mtokyo.att.ne.jp] has joined #ubuntu [11:55] Orunitia, do you have nvidia drivers or anything installed? [11:55] I shouldn't === Orunitia checks [11:55] better to avoid it right now ;) [11:55] ol, I don't know if it is your key/mouse, I assume its something else, but I don't know how to fix it, so I just reverted to Hoary === kudlaty [n=kudlaty@80.51.99.1] has joined #ubuntu [11:55] aftertaf, I see x-common wanting to be updated, maybe thats got a conflict [11:55] twibbler, I think it was bob2 [11:55]
                i dont really understand the differences between hoary and breezy [11:55] bob2: aware of breezy update removing X ???? === dionysus [n=dionysus@60-240-77-149-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [11:56] hello [11:56] ol: one has X the other hasn't ;) === kudlaty [n=kudlaty@80.51.99.1] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [11:56]
                  well what am i going to do without X? [11:56] xorg-common vs x-common [11:56] WebLOCH: bob2 is here ... ive seen him ..... [11:56] leave as is for now....... [11:56] aftertaf, (xorg-common was one being removed) [11:56] talios: odd, I don't have an nvidia card (laptop, integrated crap) but I have nvidia stuff installed [11:56]
                    im too new to understand these things :) [11:56] twibbler, he may not actually be around tho, lets find out... [11:56] bob2, you there? [11:56] hi all [11:56] talios: just do a default upgrade.. or apt-get upgrade [11:56] !pastebin [11:56] Orunitia, you probably have the free nvidia stuff by default ( i see my X.org has drivers for everything installed as well ) [11:56] I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl [11:57] talios: and it won't remove packages.. it won't install everything, but hey [11:57] I need some help with syslog configuration - could someone help me? [11:57] cef, yep. [11:57] Orunitia: talios i have no nvidia on laptop, but have X being removed if i update too..... [11:57] WebLOCH: guess we should wait for him to come back ?.... [11:57] twibbler, if im not mistaken he is on USA time === auruaoiaxm [n=oueiiui@85.97.172.117] has joined #ubuntu [11:57] just to confirm a bug, is anyone can try to browse http://api.openoffice.org/docs/DevelopersGuide/Spreadsheet/Spreadsheet.htm#1+1+Overview with the current breezy firefox and tell me if that works ? [11:57] aftertaf: yes [11:57] WebLOCH: ? [11:57] hey bob2 [11:57] I believe ytou helped me solve some sound problems the other day? === BooYaaKaa [i=BooYaaKa@85-250-174-167.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [11:58] aftertaf talios: This seems to be a pretty big bug o_O [11:58] aftertaf, do you see x-common being updated? I suspect its being pulled in from somewhere, and conflicting with xorg-common === auruaoiaxm [n=oueiiui@85.97.172.117] has left #ubuntu [] [11:58] h/p [11:58] talios: it's a bug in breezy [11:58] but seriously, people [11:58] Orunitia, well breazy IS a dev "bound to break" distro [11:58] you don't ever let apt do upgrades without watching what it's doing [11:58] X BREEZY BUG >>>>>>>>> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2453 [11:58] talios: of course [11:58] bob2: exactly [11:58] Where should i install the java JRE file? [11:59] aftertaf: yes, don't let it do it [11:59] maybe shold put sth in the topic???? or is it to be fixed sharpish.... [11:59] WebLOCH: I don't know [11:59] aftertaf: it's fixed already [11:59] lol [11:59] :) [11:59] Some say /usr/local some say /usr/java [11:59] what's the command for ubuntu update manager? [11:59] just waiting for debs to be updated then..... [11:59] arrgh [11:59] any 1 installed a 'Smartlink modem' [11:59] TypeError: argument 1 of QSizePolicy() has an invalid type [11:59] bob2, w00t :) [11:59] is there a gui for Vclam [11:59] bob2, I had to revert to hoary again so I need to set it up again, but I have no idea how again, so I was hoping you could give me some advice/help again [12:00] WebLOCH: with what? [12:00] deus, go with /bin/ [12:00] jmg: whatever app it is is buggy [12:00] anyone know how to unbreak [12:00] Echelon-H: synaptic? [12:00] NO [12:00] bob2: eric? [12:00] do not install junk to /bin/ [12:00] aftertaf, no, not exactly [12:00] bob2, I have a realtek soundcard that is apparently not installed [12:00] the new swingy one in gnome Echelon-H ? [12:00] deus: I'd go with /usr/local/java, but it doesn't really matter [12:00] bob2: ok [12:00] jmg: yes [12:00] WebLOCH: ? [12:01] WebLOCH: you haven't installed it in your computer? [12:01] aftertaf, think so, yes === rwuiO [n=oueiiui@85.97.172.117] has joined #ubuntu [12:01] okay I'm off to bed.... hopefully something will be done about this bug soon === sorush21 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [12:01] hi, [12:01] I am having issues with sound at the moment. Running hoary. I have tried the wiki solutions with no luck. I have reinstalled all packages relating to oss, esd, alsa. I have downloaded the source for alsa (base/lib/utils) as on the alsa site following their instructions for my chipset. Still I have no luck. And also my applications menu only contains Run Application [12:01] lol i installed package eric3 from universe === mode/#ubuntu [+o bob2] by ChanServ === rwuiO is now known as aVjieo [12:01] bob2, I have, the system says there is no soundcard when I try to play sound, but last time I was informed it was there, just not set correctly, I was guided through some changes and everything picked up === {M}E{H}M{E}T [n=legoolas@85.99.179.82] has joined #ubuntu [12:01] jmg: then file a bug in launchpad === {M}E{H}M{E}T [n=legoolas@85.99.179.82] has left #ubuntu [] [12:01] instead of eric from main === qingl [n=qingl@222.51.247.108] has joined #ubuntu === {M}E{H}M{E}T [n=legoolas@85.99.179.82] has joined #ubuntu === aVjieo is now known as yoioae === lovestory [n=lezbiyen@85.99.206.247] has joined #ubuntu === lovestory [n=lezbiyen@85.99.206.247] has left #ubuntu [] === {M}E{H}M{E}T [n=legoolas@85.99.179.82] has left #ubuntu [] [12:02] any one can tell me y my modem is not working? === yoioae [n=oueiiui@85.97.172.117] has left #ubuntu [] === ..[topic/#ubuntu:bob2] : Yes, X in breezy is busted, so remember not to let apt do silly things | Official Ubuntu Help channel | Documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation | Use paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting | Channel logs: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ | General chatter: #ubuntu-offtopic | Found a bug? report it: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ | Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes === polis-m-06 [n=yagmur@85.99.179.82] has joined #ubuntu [12:02] Echelon-H: dunno if there is a command, it is in the control center or the menus i think === mode/#ubuntu [-o bob2] by bob2 === polis-m-06 [n=yagmur@85.99.179.82] has left #ubuntu [] [12:02] aftertaf, but im using fluxbox and i kinda need it :P [12:02] bob2: :) you are a good person, dont let them say otherwise.... [12:02] Echelon-H: hehe ok..... no idea ! [12:02] should be a special "ubuntu-testing" channel for ppl having trubl with non-stable releases [12:03] #ubuntu-testing ;) === aftertaf is now known as after_foodage === ezal__^^ [n=sibel@vlan-146-pppoe-253.comnet.bg] has joined #ubuntu === bal [n=laure@81.214.97.33] has joined #ubuntu === ezal__^^ [n=sibel@vlan-146-pppoe-253.comnet.bg] has left #ubuntu [] [12:03] kemik: that would be inhabited by people who have no idea what they are doing, but still insist on using the devlopment version === neotrophy_ [n=neotroph@220-253-101-38.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === bal [n=laure@81.214.97.33] has left #ubuntu [] [12:03] Echelon-H: update-manager perhaps? === damla_18 [n=olcayto@85.98.122.58] has joined #ubuntu [12:03] it's hard enough stopping people do stupid shit in here [12:03] bob2: exactly.. ;) === YoluN__SoNu__ [n=hakan_br@85.97.184.190] has joined #ubuntu === damla_18 [n=olcayto@85.98.122.58] has left #ubuntu [] === YoluN__SoNu__ [n=hakan_br@85.97.184.190] has left #ubuntu [] === mumbles-out [i=mumbles@cpc2-bror1-6-0-cust74.bmly.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu === YoluN__SoNu__ [n=hakan_br@85.97.184.190] has joined #ubuntu === YoluN__SoNu__ [n=hakan_br@85.97.184.190] has left #ubuntu [] [12:03] cef, yes, thank you [12:04] i dont see why clueless ppl tries using unstable versions [12:04] :| === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@rectorat-upjv1.ac-amiens.fr] has joined #ubuntu [12:04] kemik: omg it's newer lolz rofl!111 [12:04] kemik, well said haha [12:04] ubuntu, using live cd eh? [12:04] etc. [12:04] yes [12:04] chmod: cannot access `jre1.5.0_04/.systemPrefs/.systemRootModFile': No such file or directory [12:04] hehe. mmh [12:04] === BenderNZ [i=bender@nz1.recoil.net.nz] has left #ubuntu [] [12:04] whats wrong here? [12:04] i try it === gamze___ [n=crazy__b@81.214.238.43] has joined #ubuntu [12:04] deus: dont know.. tell us about it [12:04] ubuntu, livecd is baaad for youre computer, it will make your chipset fall off!!!! better stop using it [12:05] deus: the error is pretty clear === gamze___ [n=crazy__b@81.214.238.43] has left #ubuntu [] [12:05] X in breezy is busted? I can't see the full topic in Kopete [12:05] deus: the file doesn't exist [12:05] ??? [12:05] neotrophy_: use a less bad irc client, then === Demir35 [n=ank_olda@85.99.206.247] has joined #ubuntu [12:05] neotrophy_: or /topic === Demir35 [n=ank_olda@85.99.206.247] has left #ubuntu [] [12:05] Yes but this is a binary file [12:05] chipset fall off ??? === Demir35 [n=ank_olda@85.99.206.247] has joined #ubuntu === dieonbvof [n=oueiiui@85.97.172.117] has joined #ubuntu === Demir35 [n=ank_olda@85.99.206.247] has left #ubuntu [] === aliye [n=sibel@vlan-146-pppoe-253.comnet.bg] has joined #ubuntu [12:05] ubuntu, yep, it's true. ask the experts. [12:05] brownie17: what are you saying ?? === aliye [n=sibel@vlan-146-pppoe-253.comnet.bg] has left #ubuntu [] [12:05] what does it need that it camt get+ [12:05] ? [12:05] Anyone here have any idea about audio devices? [12:06] kemik, hahaha spreading misinformation [12:06] kemik, just a harmless joke === corap__m [n=ank_olda@85.99.206.247] has joined #ubuntu === dieonbvof [n=oueiiui@85.97.172.117] has left #ubuntu [] === NUR^ [n=lezbiyen@85.99.206.247] has joined #ubuntu [12:06] indeed you are ... === corap__m [n=ank_olda@85.99.206.247] has left #ubuntu [] === NUR^ [n=lezbiyen@85.99.206.247] has left #ubuntu [] === Mega_Girl [n=lezbiyen@85.99.206.247] has joined #ubuntu [12:06] make sure he knows you're joking === Mega_Girl [n=lezbiyen@85.99.206.247] has left #ubuntu [] [12:06] ok , i will look for info. It's strange ! [12:06] WebLOCH, i have many ideas about them. i.e. i would like to smash mine, for being crappy === mumbles-out is now known as mumbles-work === adl [n=andi@213.129.245.27] has joined #ubuntu [12:07] brownie17, give me the hammer after [12:07] ubuntu, i am sorry, that was a joke, i didn't intend you to take it seriously [12:07] ok [12:07] bah [12:07] WebLOCH, sure will :) [12:07] WebLOCH: I spent like 2 hours on you last time [12:07] WebLOCH, you have to load the module , didn't hotplug do it for you ? restart hotplug to see if it loads a module for you [12:07] WebLOCH: if you have a problem in future, and someone invests time to help you, take notes [12:07] kemik, i assumed he knew i was mucking around === ol2 [i=ol@cpe-24-24-143-62.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [12:07] bob2, it wasnt two hours, if it was you that helped me, it took less than 20 minutes [12:08] including the time it took me to paste on pastebin for the first time haha === ScReaM [n=crazy__b@81.214.238.43] has joined #ubuntu [12:08] ok, so my install freezes when it tries to start hotplug, i ctrl alt f1 and it gives me some error codes.. '/lib/modules/2.6.12-8-386/kernel/drivers/video/console/bitblit.ko' : -1 file exists === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has joined #ubuntu === ScReaM [n=crazy__b@81.214.238.43] has left #ubuntu [] [12:08] slept, it wasnt to do with hotplug as far as i recall [12:08] bob2: I have same problem as WebLoch ... and been round everywhere to try to resolve ... [12:08] and it gives that same error code for a bunch of other drivers [12:08] bah [12:08] brownie17: assumptions is the mother of all fuckups [12:08] ;) [12:08] you're not on windows [12:09] do not use terms like "install" when you mean "detect and load driver" [12:09] WebLOCH: get a pen and paper === utku [n=pornman@85.98.77.137] has joined #ubuntu === utku [n=pornman@85.98.77.137] has left #ubuntu [] [12:09] bob2, Ive got VI if that will do :p [12:09] kemik, you know? i think you are completely correct. thankyou for imparting such wisdom to a mere mortal! :):):):):) [12:09] ;) === foreveryoung [n=pornman@85.98.77.137] has joined #ubuntu === foreveryoung [n=pornman@85.98.77.137] has left #ubuntu [] === TWaifoHo [n=oueiiui@85.97.172.117] has joined #ubuntu [12:09] bob2: I will put the resolve into a wiki .... === TWaifoHo [n=oueiiui@85.97.172.117] has left #ubuntu [] [12:10] WebLOCH: put your /var/log/dmesg and output of "lspci" somewhere [12:10] twibbler: you too [12:10] ok i managed to install it [12:10] But i still cant use java plugins with mozilla === aIiciakeys [n=asus@81.213.87.85] has joined #ubuntu === ZurnaNet7187 [n=poyraz@81.213.87.85] has joined #ubuntu === pungak [n=cool_oko@210.213.169.68] has joined #ubuntu === aIiciakeys [n=asus@81.213.87.85] has left #ubuntu [] [12:11] bob2: do you want all the dmesg ... if so Ill paste to pastebin ... [12:11] yes === StrikeForce [n=marc@203-59-202-13.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === ZurnaNet7187 [n=poyraz@81.213.87.85] has left #ubuntu [] === |maddox| [n=dox@a212-113-184-53.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu === seee [n=pornman@85.98.77.137] has joined #ubuntu === seee [n=pornman@85.98.77.137] has left #ubuntu [] === BlueMat [n=BlueMat@cpc1-tall4-3-0-cust137.dbln.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:12] deus you have to link the plugin to the mozilla plugin dir , look at the readme file === janimo [n=jani@Home03207.cluj.astral.ro] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:13] anyone recommend me a bit torrent site? [12:13] Im in work trying to install apache2 at home via cmd line, when I apt-get it ask for ubuntu CD how do I overide this? [12:13] zblach, piratebay.org === kain [i=kain@host70-140.pool80183.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [12:14] bob2, http://pastebin.ca/23680 [12:14] Hey anyone know of sound problems with the VIA8237 chipset? [12:14] zblach, for free software that is === duce [n=duce@p508981BB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu === Gorgonzola [n=Gorgonzo@220-253-41-137.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:14] bob2, http://pastebin.ca/23681 === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu === DJVAKAM`raKiq [n=sdadasd@82.101.66.65] has joined #ubuntu === ewliesmer [n=asus@81.213.87.85] has joined #ubuntu === DJVAKAM`raKiq is now known as crtr [12:14] How do I override apt-get prompting for CD, Anyone? === ewliesmer is now known as Sentinel [12:15] BlueMat, remove the reference to the cd === Sentinel [n=asus@81.213.87.85] has left #ubuntu [] === cuzelum [n=eumumuie@81.213.87.85] has joined #ubuntu [12:15] Blue-Box, apt-setup and comment the line containing cd with a # in /etc/apt/sources.list === Sentinel [n=asus@81.213.87.85] has joined #ubuntu [12:15] bob2: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl:2454 and 2455 === ykeoiIiai [n=oueiiui@85.97.172.117] has joined #ubuntu === cuzelum [n=eumumuie@81.213.87.85] has left #ubuntu [] === ykeoiIiai [n=oueiiui@85.97.172.117] has left #ubuntu [] === Sentinel [n=asus@81.213.87.85] has left #ubuntu [] [12:15] oh, BlueMat instead of Blue-Box [12:15] BlueMat, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list [12:16] ahh sorry [12:16] WebLOCH: sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0 [12:16] hey helpful buddies, this is the exact thing my install stops at: http://archives.free.net.ph/message/20050831.010625.6c7979dc.en.html [12:16] any ideas? doesnt seem like it hurt this guys install at all, though [12:16] bob2, done [12:16] bob2, no output [12:16] WebLOCH: "dmesg | tail", pastebin [12:17] Bluemat, i'm looking for manuals [12:17] like, books, or instructions === padi_sah [n=ilbze@81.215.107.71] has joined #ubuntu === uoxeouKk [n=oueiiui@85.97.172.117] has joined #ubuntu === cheesie [n=steffan@user-1030.l1.c4.dsl.pol.co.uk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [12:17] ol2: have you verified the cd? [12:17] no, i didnt see an option... but i have used the exact same cd to install to a real computer === uoxeouKk [n=oueiiui@85.97.172.117] has left #ubuntu [] [12:17] bob2, http://pastebin.ca/23682 [12:17] "real" as in non laptop [12:17] thanks guys === padi_sah [n=ilbze@81.215.107.71] has left #ubuntu [] === L|nu}{ [n=linux@studpc32.thndorm.htu.se] has joined #ubuntu === elad` [n=elad@IGLD-80-230-97-197.inter.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [12:19] What's Totem? [12:19] A media player === osfameron [n=osfamero@www.greenokapi.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:19] I double clicked an mp3 file, and it gave me an error, said it was already busy or something. [12:19] I'm running breezy and I'm trying to mount a compact flash card in a Pcmcia cf reader [12:19] help? [12:20] heatxsink: what is the problem? [12:20] Then I right clicked it and chose "open with media player", and it ran Rythmibox or something, which told me no plugin is installed for dealing with mp3 files. [12:20] the partition isn't showing up when I do a fdisk -l === XYvSooqaH [n=oineco@adsl-169-107-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu === gerarcone [n=gerarcon@85-18-14-12.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:20] elad`, mp3s are not a free format === XYvSooqaH [n=oineco@adsl-169-107-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] [12:21] heatxsink: is the device found? check dmesg [12:21] elad`: /msg ubotu restricted [12:21] elad`, they are referred to as a restricted format, you can find out how to install them by checking out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats === hazmat_ [n=hazmat@177.turbo.at] has joined #ubuntu [12:22] [4333622.186000] hda: Hitachi XX.V.4.1.0.0, CFA DISK drive [12:22] [4333623.113000] ide0 at 0x100-0x107,0x10e on irq 3 [12:22] [4333623.114000] ide-cs: hda: Vcc = 3.3, Vpp = 0.0 [12:22] i can't install wine on Breezy: it appears an error message on Synaptic saying wine: Depends libwine (=0.0.20050310-1.1) but o.o.20050419-1~5.04ubp1 will be installed [12:22] What's the problem with Totem? [12:23] twibbler: sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0 [12:23] gerarcone: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood [12:23] MarcN: that was odd, it wasn't till I did a fdisk on /dev/hda [12:23] that hal picked it up and i guess automount kicked in [12:24] gerarcone: oh, wait, nevrmind [12:24] gerarcone: WELCOME TO BACKPORT COUNTRY [12:24] is that normal? [12:24] bob2 no output same as WebLOCH ... do you want the tail from dmesg [12:24] twibbler: yeah [12:24] bob2: what? [12:25] How do I fix Totem? [12:25] gerarcone: you're using broken backports [12:25] gerarcone: remove backports from sources.list [12:25] gerarcone: and try again [12:25] bob2: 2456 [12:25] gerarcone: I guess they'll help you on the forums or something [12:25] is there a way to access an ext3 filesystem without a big livecd [12:25] bob2: i've pasted sources list to #flood [12:25] knoppix wont boot on my laptop === locomorto [n=locomort@unaffiliated/locomorto] has joined #ubuntu [12:25] kemik: what are backports? === ol2 is now known as ol [12:26] man [12:26] no firefox 1.0.7 for ubuntu? [12:26] !backports [12:26] Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list. More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports === mypapit [n=mypapit@60.49.44.9] has joined #ubuntu [12:26] it's really annoying that none of the backport monkeys actually come here to help people with their mess [12:26] Belutz, it available in breezy [12:26] Belutz: it usally takes a while for the security fixes to be backported [12:26] my firefox wont start at all in breezy, any other people with this issue? === sexcopter8000m [n=NNSCRIPT@82-34-47-19.cable.ubr01.chel.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === ^^benimsin17 [n=ilbze@81.215.107.71] has joined #ubuntu [12:26] HaNazir, have you thought about Opera? === ^^benimsin17 [n=ilbze@81.215.107.71] has left #ubuntu [] [12:26] Belutz: and breezy doesn;t havwee ti yet either (i think). I'll check though [12:26] deFrysk: hooray :D [12:27] bob2: what do you say about my sources.list? [12:27] twibbler: very odd [12:27] locomorto: ok, thanks for checking it out [12:27] WebLOCH: i have opera :) [12:27] bob2: I agree .... Im confused .... [12:27] HaNazir, then why worry about firefox? [12:27] actually theres a firefox package [12:27] Could anyone tell me how to either fix Totem, or set another, working media player as the default? [12:27] I'm upgrading to that now === rdfm [n=rdfm@host24-173.pool8259.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === WueiK [n=oineco@adsl-169-107-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu [12:27] not sure what version that is === WueiK is now known as Puajioi === _pir [n=E@212.199.9.229.static.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [12:28] sure there is 1.0.7 firefox for ubuntu (breezy) already [12:28] yep, 1.0.7 is in breezy as of now (only recent though) [12:28] bob2: dont you ever get the urge to refer to justfuckinggoogleit.com ? ;) [12:28] WebLOCH: cos its open source and i like it:) === Puajioi [n=oineco@adsl-169-107-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] [12:28] locomorto: great, thanks :) [12:28] HaNazir, each to their own i guess [12:28] kemik: googleityoumoron === kain [i=kain@host70-140.pool80183.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu ["kuht.it] [12:28] locomorto, latest firefox is also recent ;) === EspressoMann [n=burgerma@0x3e42a174.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu === locomorto likes googleityoumoron [12:29] very nice [12:29] hi, i just installed kubuntu breezy from a CD and want to connect with it through a pppoe connection (through the ath0 network device) [12:29] I ran pppoeconf ath0 [12:29] Are you installing kubuntu on your mac? === flodine [n=flodine@c-24-4-174-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:29] gerarcone: that you really should be careful about what you polite your sources.list with [12:29] er, pllute === M-M-S [n=cdcilek@151.82.6.42] has joined #ubuntu [12:29] <_pir> I dont understand it... I installed "gnome-netstatus", refreshed the panel , but I still dont see this applet in the "add to panel".... === carlos [n=carlos@243.Red-83-47-24.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:30] bob2: pollute [12:30] bob2: lol === M-M-S [n=cdcilek@151.82.6.42] has left #ubuntu [] === M-M-S [n=cdcilek@151.82.6.42] has joined #ubuntu [12:30] but pppd won't start with a "unrecognised option ath0" error [12:30] locomorto: i prefer justfuckinggoogleit ;) [12:30] _pir: right click [12:30] _pir: add to panel [12:30] the line in question is in dsl-provider [12:30] hi, i am having issues with gstreamer, and sound in general [12:30] Is loading the 686 kernel image a bad idea? [12:30] bob2: can you tell me more? i can't understand well this [12:30] heatxsink: all set? [12:30] plugin rp-pppoe.so ath [12:30] WebLOCH: no === MPouuqRei [n=ilbze@81.215.107.71] has joined #ubuntu [12:31] bob2: what should i do? === MPouuqRei [n=ilbze@81.215.107.71] has left #ubuntu [] [12:31] Where do I set my default application for each filetype? [12:31] what is your dsl-provider file like [12:31] ? === oiReNaioa [n=iaeiuake@86.104.125.33] has joined #ubuntu [12:31] WebLOCH: iu have AMD? === oiReNaioa [n=iaeiuake@86.104.125.33] has left #ubuntu [] [12:31] HaNazir, I knew it wouldnt be overall, I meant are there any drawbacks... and does 686-smp include a Dual Processor Pentium D === wsilva [n=wsilva@c906a22c.virtua.com.br] has joined #ubuntu [12:31] Hi everybody [12:31] _pir: find the netstaus applet [12:31] HaNazir, no Pentium D840 === aysennnnn [n=ilbze@81.215.107.71] has joined #ubuntu === M-M-S [n=cdcilek@151.82.6.42] has left #ubuntu [] [12:31] _pir: select it, go add/ok [12:31] I'm a newbi in linux === aeolist [n=aeolist@ppp-229-069.dialup.ntua.gr] has joined #ubuntu [12:31] HaNazir, Dual Core is what I meant to say :P === aysennnnn [n=ilbze@81.215.107.71] has left #ubuntu [] [12:32] i'd like to know how can i install the skype.. [12:32] what does it mean "Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0" [12:32] _pir: its called network monitor === faked [n=faked@83-65-251-8.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu [12:32] i've downloaded, but i cant installl [12:32] wsilva, its listed in the ubuntu documentation [12:32] is my Floppy Drive defective or the Floppy Disk? [12:32] how can i find it? [12:32] bob2: ... [12:32] WebLOCH: do sudo apt-cache search linux-image and it will tell u which one is the right one. i think 386 is better for pentium, but 686 also works. === bayu [n=bayu@203.84.138.140] has joined #ubuntu [12:32] bob2: could it be IPv6 conflict ?.... [12:32] bob2: cd /usr/share/docs/libdvdread3/ [12:32] oops [12:32] WebLOCH: BUT not 100% sure. [12:33] wrong person [12:33] wsilva, goto the website, click on the "wiki" tab and then click on user documentation, from there it should be as simple as searching for "skype" on that page === sith31 [n=sith31@AToulouse-252-1-26-99.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [12:33] ow.. good.. [12:33] wsilva: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto [12:33] HaNazir, I believe 686 is the correct image but I was wondering if SMP was for real dual processors or if it would work with a dual core single processor [12:33] wsilva: dpkg -i package.deb [12:33] WebLOCH: dont know :) === Oaizbioi [n=iaeiuake@86.104.125.33] has joined #ubuntu === thesaltydog [n=yoshi@host194-61.pool8023.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === DocTomoe [n=martin@p54A91BDE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [12:33] other think... the sound is working in my computer [12:34] It is? === Oaizbioi [n=iaeiuake@86.104.125.33] has left #ubuntu [] === kafeine [n=kori@83.228.103.38] has joined #ubuntu [12:34] Then you count yourself lucky! === pzw [n=cdcilek@151.82.6.42] has joined #ubuntu === HeavyD [n=ds@ti131310a080-12601.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu [12:34] how can I get rid of usplash and have back my console at vga=791? [12:34] but, when i'm browsing via internet... i can hear nothing.. [12:34] How can I get the CUPS web frontend to work under breezy? [12:34] what sources i should put into sources.list? please, help me! === talios [n=amrk@202-74-217-142.ue.woosh.co.nz] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === pzw [n=cdcilek@151.82.6.42] has left #ubuntu [] [12:34] thesaltydog: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst === agZcmiu [n=iaeiuake@86.104.125.33] has joined #ubuntu === agZcmiu [n=iaeiuake@86.104.125.33] has left #ubuntu [] [12:35] gerarcone: What do you want to do? [12:35] gerarcone, I think what people have been trying to tell you, is that you have attempted to download from partial or faulty sljr === Raptoid [n=Java@unaffiliated/raptoid] has joined #ubuntu [12:35] WebLOCH: sljr? [12:35] neotrophy_, I did it, but with latest kernel update (-9) I don't have any display inj console. I can't see the booting sequence... [12:35] gerarcone, sources* so you should remove the backports from your sources list === x[BrB] x [n=patrick@203.213.221.150] has joined #ubuntu [12:35] does anyone have problems with x-common update? [12:36] <_pir> thesaltydog: on the line # kopt=root=/dev/hdxy ro console=tty0, add vga=795 at the end === leagris [n=leagris_@mama.noiraude.net] has joined #ubuntu === _david [n=david@dslnet.85-22-28.ip234.dokom.de] has joined #ubuntu [12:36] locomorto: i simple want to know what sources should i have in my sources.list [12:36] im installing ubuntu but theres an error message :( [12:36] neotrophy_, 795? I was using 791... ok, I'll test [12:36] WebLOCH: what are these backports? [12:36] gerarcone, everything EXCEPT the ones listed as "backports" [12:36] I tried to install ubuntu on my computer but my serial mouse didn't work anybody can help me why......? [12:36] x[BrB] x what error? === kqxaPuq [n=iaeiuake@86.104.125.33] has joined #ubuntu === ficoc [n=ficoc@p50872BAB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu ["ich] === kqxaPuq [n=iaeiuake@86.104.125.33] has left #ubuntu [] [12:37] thesaltydog: yeah, 791 [12:37] gerarcone, places that older or extra stuff is kept, you can identify them because they have the word "BACKPORT" within them, just comment them out with "#" === kqxaPuq [n=iaeiuake@86.104.125.33] has joined #ubuntu [12:37] bayu: it crashes ur X or the pointer just wont move? [12:37] for got the msg.. but something like cant install etc... === kqxaPuq [n=iaeiuake@86.104.125.33] has left #ubuntu [] [12:37] x[BrB] x thats useless man [12:37] just the pointer... [12:37] can anybody help with my pppoe problems under breezy? I have already searched the forums and google for breezy dsl-provider pppoe and found some pointers but none similar to my problem... [12:37] then after i reboot.. it suddenly hang [12:37] x jusst fine [12:37] <_pir> ther are many x-executable lib files in the /usr/lib/.... (many applents... I think).. can I launch them by clicking? [12:38] WebLOCH: they are all commented [12:38] ok i'll check [12:38] gerarcone, then you can't use apt-get ! === selinium [n=selinium@82-34-235-215.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:38] bayu: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf under mouse what does it say? query it to me. === PlanarPlatypus [n=alucard@cpc3-cove3-5-1-cust39.brhm.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:38] WebLOCH: ok, let's say in this way... the only that is not commented is [12:39] WebLOCH: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe [12:39] rdfm: whats the prob? [12:39] gerarcone, well then uncomment the rest, EXCEPT for backports [12:39] WebLOCH: i think there is something wrong in my sources.list === [A] ndy80 [n=andy80@host214-117.pool8248.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === qingl [n=qingl@222.51.247.108] has left #ubuntu [] [12:39] does make-kpkg not take advantage of SMP or something? [12:39] gerarcone, goto pastebin.ca and paste your list and give me the url [12:39] pppoeconf put a line in dsl-provider that is not compatible with pppoe === thesaltydog [n=yoshi@host194-61.pool8023.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [12:40] well right now i used my ps2 port...last time i tried my serial but didn't work... [12:40] HaNazir: in particular plugin rp-pppoe.so ath0 [12:40] rdfm: when u run sudo pppeconf what do u get? [12:40] WebLOCH: wait a moment... and thank you [12:40] hanazir after i reboot it goes to installation package.. but theres no activity, it remains in 0% [12:40] ps2 just fine [12:40] neotrophy_, I did it, but the same... No console output.. === mielie69 [i=mielie69@wbs-146-179-54.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu [12:40] neotrophy_, I will file a bug on latest kernel [12:40] ColonelKernel, only if you have the SMP image loaded, and i cant imagine a packager needing to make use of smp [12:41] Is there a breezy .deb of opera? [12:41] WebLOCH: ok. http://pastebin.ca/23683 [12:41] HaNazir: it finds the pppoe concentrator on the ath0 device [12:41] im using 386-iso [12:41] HaNazir: i have no ubuntu serial mouse install yet.. [12:41] WebLOCH: remember that i'm running Breezy [12:41] thesaltydog: I just remembered... you have to run "sudo update-grub" afterward === alisher [n=alex@vp173029.nt.uac64.hknet.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:41] WebLOCH, you mean using an SMP kernel ? that I am. [12:41] im using hoary , can i install oo beta without borking my box? [12:41] neotrophy_, of course.. [12:41] and compiling goes faster with SMP [12:41] The sarge one has a problem with the naming of a package and thus makes my system 'look' broken [12:41] HaNazir: i answer all the questions and creates the dsl-provider file === pc22 [n=arik@222.126.13.162] has joined #ubuntu === mielie69 [i=mielie69@wbs-146-179-54.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu [] === after_foodage is now known as aftertaf [12:42] x[BrB] x u connected to the net? [12:42] neotrophy_, this is my cat /proc/cmdline root=/dev/hda6 ro console=tty0 vga=791 quiet splash [12:42] ColonelKernel, yeah thats what I meant, I can't imagine it being used for packaging... also compiling won't go faster with SMP unless you use a distributed compiler... or a compiler optimised for multiple processors, which generally they are not [12:42] yes hanazir [12:42] hanazir yes [12:42] brb [12:42] well with make you can always do make -j3 [12:42] hmm... that should work. It worked for me (even though I didn't want it to :) ) [12:43] I dont know if such an option exists for make-kpkg [12:44] hanazir i aleady used the cd where i burned 386-iso, it work fine with me.. infact i dont experince an error message on my first computer [12:44] gerarcone, these are pretty much all "hoary" sources [12:44] breezy X is repaired again........ [12:44] WebLOCH: so? [12:44] gerarcone, you can change a few of them to breezy, but I cannot advise on exactly how safe that is [12:44] x[BrB] x so reinstalled? [12:44] gerarcone, I did it the other day to upgrade to breezy [12:44] anyone? [12:44] it worked fine [12:45] fredforfaen: yes you can... [12:45] cool [12:45] it doesnt killOO1 [12:45] WebLOCH: can you past me you sources.list then? [12:45] hanazir no... [12:45] rdfm: it creates the files, and when u reboot it doesnt connect? [12:45] WebLOCH: so i copy it [12:45] aftertaf do i have to uninstall oo 1.1.3 first? [12:45] gerarcone, nope, i went back to hoary, breezy doesnt like my keyb/mouse [12:45] hanazir im installing kubuntu on my 2nd computer [12:45] fredforfaen: dont think so... [12:45] x[BrB] x well since its in the beginning of the install, why not try reinstalling? [12:45] WebLOCH: where i can find sources? [12:46] WebLOCH: maybe on the wiki? [12:46] aftertaf cus when i try to apt-get remove oo it wanna remove ubuntu-desktop as well [12:46] x[BrB] x it happens while it tried to update the packages right during install? [12:46] people, about my sound.. is not working properly.. how can i fix it... [12:46] hanazir i've reinstalled it 3x already.. :( i still got the same problem [12:46] no need to remove oo1 for now... [12:46] cool [12:46] HaNazir: no, the problem is that pppoe does not put a newline between plugin rp-pppoe.so and the ath0 device [12:46] thanx a bunch [12:46] aftertaf <-- [12:46] I searched the docs [12:46] ColonelKernel, if i want to make my network with static ipaddress [12:47] x[BrB] x ah ok. [12:47] easier than I thought [12:47] :) [12:47] a bug though, I think [12:47] x[BrB] x so its during the package update though right? [12:47] hanazir i already change cd rom [12:47] yap [12:47] x[BrB] x so just skip it [12:47] pc22, yes? [12:47] rdfm: yep, did that for me too... unless i ran in in tty1 [12:47] gerarcone, I dont know of an official solution, I would advise you just install hoary as it is stable === EspressoMann is now known as BurgerMann [12:48] gerarcone, if not you might aswell dual boot with Windows Vista Preview === rockin_stan [n=stan@dsl-082-082-052-074.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:48] WebLOCH: i've tried hoary, but i prefer breezy [12:48] x[BrB] x dont update packages during isntall, wait till it finishes then do the install, i had that with my installations, that it wouldnt load the ADSL: conenction until after the instalaltion, so i had to do the updates once up and running. [12:48] hanazir i did skip it.. then after i skip it.. i completed the installation until i reboot [12:48] gerarcone, there is little noticable difference I should imagine === Lloydy [n=lloydy@c211-28-157-82.eburwd2.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === IRCMonkey [n=chatzill@32.Red-80-39-147.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:49] hey guys im new to ubuntu .. how to i run a configure command [12:49] my ntp doesnt start correctly in breezy, says temp dns name resolution failure but dns works fine when I log in [12:49] x[BrB] x oh. so thats where u get stuck? during the unpackaging? [12:49] does anyone know an alternative to X-Chat? something that includes more functinality? [12:49] Lloydy: you compiling from source? [12:49] yes [12:49] BurgerMann: what type of unctionality? [12:49] in fc3 i do ./configure ect ect === unreal_ [n=unreal@unaffiliated/unreal] has joined #ubuntu [12:49] aftertaf, HaNazir: and even though I just followed the example from the documentation, putting ath0 by itself, pppd still considers it an invalid keyword... [12:49] hanazir after i reboot it goes to installation package.. but theres no activity, it remains in 0% [12:49] BurgerMann: gaim? [12:50] WebLOCH: possible that no-one in this chatroom is running breezy? [12:50] Lloydy: here too.... ./configure && make && sudo make install [12:50] gerarcone: wrong ;) [12:50] hanazir yap i think it on unpackaging [12:50] rdfm: is this wireless stuff? [12:50] lots of us are. [12:50] HaNazir: yes [12:50] HaNazir: mad-wifi [12:50] HaNazir: what card? [12:50] hanzir where do you think is the problem [12:50] so if i was trying to run ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/ --with-mysql [12:50] differences: out of the box bluetooth..... support for more and newer hardware, refined gui.... etc [12:51] HaNazir: atheros AR5212 [12:51] x[BrB] x u tried another CD right? === p_jnco [n=your@207-180-130-215.c3-0.abr-ubr1.sbo-abr.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu [12:51] hi good people [12:51] rdfm: netgear? [12:51] i get .. ./configure --prefix=PREFIX [12:51] HaNazir: conceptronics [12:51] anyone know how to adjust the login screen resolution? [12:51] hanazir i tried another cdrom [12:51] erm i get ./configure no such file or folder [12:51] aftertaf: can you paste me your sources.list? [12:51] but it is there [12:51] rdfm: weird i thought ubuntu detected atheros === burgermann [n=burgerma@0x3e42a174.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu [12:51] Lloydy: i dont know about that.... [12:51] ok gerarcone [12:52] may i pm u .. its hecktic in here [12:52] hanazir i tried 1 cd on 2 cdroms [12:52] HaNazir: it does detect it, it pings other hosts, it finds the pppoe access concentrator but [12:52] gerarcone, I am sure someone is [12:52] gerarcone, they make up the large proportion of people asking for help === lamp_ [n=la@dsl-084-056-163-185.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:52] HaNazir: it was not setup automatically (I had to fudge with /etc/network/interfaces to make it work in kubuntu) [12:53] hello gentlemen, anyone know how to fix the login screen resolution [12:53] hanazir if i try to reinstall again do i have to reformat my hdd? or i just need to run again from cdrom? [12:53] HaNazir: pppd does not like it... [12:53] x[BrB] x umm....ur screwed [12:53] x[BrB] x what are ur specs? [12:53] WebLOCH: i'm sure of this. you are very kind, consider that i'm new to Linux so the most of my questions are stupid [12:53] x[BrB] x u didnt format the FS? === m234 [n=maged@aragone.mc.yu.edu] has joined #ubuntu [12:54] hanazir celeron 2gig 128 === tommy [n=tommy@p54BE03E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [12:54] HaNazir: weird === maradong [n=bhentges@vodsl-4461.vo.lu] has joined #ubuntu [12:54] hi [12:54] hanazir what do you mean?? [12:54] xdfm: i dont know man. u can try this driver too: http://www.linuxant.com/company/ [12:54] gerarcone, im not that kind, but thanks for the compliment, your questions are not so much stupid as... unnecessary, your problems stem from having an unstable OS, if you swap to the stable version you should be fine, if you have problems still, then you have to start worrying [12:55] gerarcone: why do you want to go to breezy? for now there can still be problems and you can end up stumped if you dont know a bit of command line and x configuring. [12:55] rdfm and http://www.linux-wireless.org/Drivers/ [12:55] WebLOCH: i agree.... stay with stable for 20 more days.... [12:55] where do i need to find to my sound card work properly [12:55] hey all yall they call me the supernoob, anyone know how i can keep and/or change the resolution for my login screen [12:56] HaNazir: hell no man, mad-wifi drivers work perfectly! [12:56] aftertaf, is that when the stable breezy comes out ? [12:56] im going to breezy if I cant get this vanilla kernel booted - I got things working in breezy just fine === am285 [n=andreasm@62-99-167-68.static.adsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu [12:56] I've used them successfully under gentoo [12:56] WebLOCH: 13 oct [12:56] aftertaf, ahh awesome, i had no idea it was that soon! I hope they resolve the bluetooth buggery! [12:56] gentoo owns [12:56] HaNazir: this is a ubuntu-specific problem.... [12:56] aftertaf: on 13 oct they'll release the stable version of breezy? [12:57] p_jnco: change the default resolution in xorg.conf === warren_ [n=warren_@203.213.222.22] has joined #ubuntu [12:57] aftertaf: for now it's more simple for me to not change the situation [12:57] gerarcone: yes (normally ;) ) [12:57] dang it === Graungaard [n=graungaa@cpe.atm2-0-73178.0x50a6d452.abnxx10.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu [12:57] where is that file stored [12:57] xorg.conf [12:57] I can't believe how much windows lacks [12:57] aftertaf: but if synaptic works is better :p [12:58] gerarcone: probably.... but be aware of what the package updates will do, and dont update blindly... like this morning there was a package pb that if you ran it would have reomved all your X server [12:58] I wish I could be done with it [12:58] windows is an unstable peice of poop === curious_kitty [n=kat@ppp26.dial-up.uoc.gr] has joined #ubuntu [12:58] BUT I CANT GAME ON LINUX [12:58] DOH [12:58] p_jnco, yeah tell me about it [12:58] aftertaf: yes, i now that [12:58] p_jnco: /etc/X11/xorg.conf <-- needds modifying as root (sudo) [12:58] p_jnco, windows is pretty damn stable for me === macintoshr [n=gm@10.cust4.sa.dsl.ozemail.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [12:58] it is for me [12:58] aftertaf: but no matter, i'm in dual boot with winxp, so i don't have fear to lose the data [12:58] but its still unstable [12:58] gerarcone: as long as you are aware, and know how to spot hiccupslike that, you shold be ok. [12:58] and allot less powerfull === irvin [n=irvin@203.215.115.150] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] I just accidentally got rid of the entire upper pannel. I want it back. [12:59] I think the problem could be that the rp-pppoe.so plugin does not export ath0 as a valid device.... === eFFay [n=effay@l337.khg.sgsnet.se] has joined #ubuntu [12:59] elad`: thats one of the reasons i dont like gnome...... [01:00] fuck it [01:00] im just gonna leave the fucked up resolution [01:00] im a pussy to edit a conf file [01:00] aftertaf, and the solution is? === deelaz [n=Deelaz@84.32.121.46] has joined #ubuntu === deelaz [n=Deelaz@84.32.121.46] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:00] yesterday [01:00] i had this problme [01:00] chnged the resolutin there [01:01] ? [01:01] p_jnco: if you try, you can learn...... but no pbs. [01:01] and after.. choose other quantity of hz [01:01] after [01:01] whats the command again in terminal [01:01] sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf === ColonelKernel [i=ishai@24-205-124-191.dhcp.hspr.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:01] elad`: i dunno...i use kde. === rowanjl [n=rowanjl@d220-238-231-1.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:01] sorry for being the supernoob [01:01] p_jnco, windows is not less powerful, linux is less powerful, unless you have tailored hardware [01:01] p_jnco: nearly.... sudo nano .... [01:01] =/ [01:01] HAHAHA I did it!!! [01:01] shutup web [01:01] half of my devices dont have linux drivers :( [01:01] sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf [01:02] p_jnco, dont be so rude [01:02] . === jb_ray [n=moon@202.84.116.28] has joined #ubuntu [01:02] windows is bumjuice [01:02] Linux p4ht 2.6.14-rc2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Sep 23 03:17:41 PDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux [01:02] Im very proud of myself [01:02] p_jnco, you sound like a kid [01:02] nice one ColonelKernel === GrCcobeSoy [n=jeabej@adsl-252-66-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu [01:02] yeah [01:02] am i correct after [01:02] sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf? [01:02] hi! [01:02] long live ubuntu - even with its funny scripts [01:02] ubuntu is so easy [01:02] lolz. === GrCcobeSoy [n=jeabej@adsl-252-66-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] === Kadir [n=capone@151.82.3.203] has joined #ubuntu [01:02] i wish it was harder like gentoo [01:02] longlive blueyonder! 4mbps for free! [01:03] hi! [01:03] Anyone tell me how I can make my DVD contents appear under dvd:// in gnome? DVDs mount, but that special name gives me errors when I try and access it [01:03] A heads up: if you are on breezy use the debain etch package for opera [01:03] you know, I noticed that you cant just open a terminal from the right-click on the desktop menu in breezy - how do I add this? [01:03] hi! === ferdi [n=ferdi@59.93.192.127] has joined #ubuntu === Kadir [n=capone@151.82.3.203] has left #ubuntu [] === boxerboy29 [n=boxerboy@adsl-144-177-44.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu === fluffybunny_ [i=6ixmknwu@nat-gw.nbn.ac.za] has joined #ubuntu [01:04] ColonelKernel I noticed that too! I was very upset. [01:04] people.. please help me how can i fix my sound card seetings here.. i can hear nothing [01:04] Antioch, any way to add it back there? [01:05] what came before Warty Warthog? [01:05] Not sure [01:05] hi! [01:05] fluffybunny_: nothing... [01:05] fluffybunny_ nothing [01:05] debian sid.... [01:05] nautilus-open-terminal [01:05] Breezy is the 3rd release === ajioaio [n=jeabej@adsl-252-66-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu === ajioaio [n=jeabej@adsl-252-66-192-81.adsl2.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] [01:05] i've only heard of people talking about warty, hoary and breezy (and now dapper)... i though warty was labelled 4.somethign? [01:05] someone should nag the developers to put it back in there [01:06] ColonelKernel: keybindings....... i hit Windows & Esc [01:06] thats really annoying not to be able to do [01:06] 4.10 as in october 2004 [01:06] fluffybunny_: dates ;) [01:06] aftertaf, i'd prefer to have it the way its supposed to be :P [01:06] install nautilus-open-terminal [01:06] Cimmerian: ah [01:06] dapper should be ready in april? [01:06] hehe... lazy ;) its supposed to be however you want it to be..... === HaNazir [n=yahalom@1-18-132-169.idt.net] has left #ubuntu [] [01:07] GOD, i am the biggest noob on the face of the earth, i used root terminal (im trying to edit sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf) i did a cd to get to the root folder but all i see is 2 files [01:07] boxerboy29: 6 month release schedule normally.... though breezy aint released as official yet [01:07] where is everything! [01:07] p_jnco: hehe what is the command you type [01:07] breezy is set for oct13 [01:07] cd === {Phoinix} [n=Phoinix@pasiphae.her.forthnet.gr] has joined #ubuntu [01:07] now im at # [01:07] and all i see is 2 files [01:07] bootstrap something [01:07] Cimmerian whats nautilus-open-terminal? [01:07] or other [01:08] p_jnco: type pwd [01:08] gives you the ability to open a terminal from nautilus [01:08] bootstrapsettings and instal report [01:08] ok === bimberi [n=bimberi@ppp-40-250.grapevine.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:08] Can anyone help me? [01:08] where do i find plug ins for opera? if there are any === looksaus [n=mark@ip-83-134-125-78.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ubuntu === sobersabre [n=bilbo@l192-115-16-116.broadband.actcom.net.il] has joined #ubuntu === zeyna^ [n=skenny@151.82.0.9] has joined #ubuntu [01:08] its /root [01:08] which means you also get it in the right click menu of the desktop === NoHope [n=silas@201-13-46-209.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [01:08] really? [01:08] ok... you're in root's home directory ;) [01:08] yay! [01:08] the desktop is drawn by nautilus [01:08] =) [01:08] go to / [01:08] oh [01:08] cd / [01:08] when will breezy be frozen ? === spirit05 [n=spirit05@200.90.80.200] has joined #ubuntu [01:08] hi all [01:08] ? [01:08] k [01:08] :] ] [01:09] ok, this is probably the umpteenth time someone asks, but... [01:09] looksaus: oct 13!! [01:09] hey, apt-get install is oblying me to take the program from the cd. how can I force it to take from the internet? === TooSad [n=loviggi@host213-199.pool871.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === TooSad [n=loviggi@host213-199.pool871.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu ["Sto] [01:09] NoHope: comment the cd repositories in the sources.list === zeyna^ is now known as orkunbey [01:09] NoHope: open synaptic, or edit by hand /etc/apt/sources.list [01:09] NoHope: comment out the cd listing in sources.list === maradong [n=bhentges@vodsl-4461.vo.lu] has left #ubuntu [] [01:09] NoHope, edit /etc/apt/sources.list === custodioroselda [n=guest@210.213.154.245] has joined #ubuntu [01:10] hehe 4x reply === orkunbey [n=skenny@151.82.0.9] has left #ubuntu [] [01:10] th you all. [01:10] what about this X thing? I noticed apt wanted to remove it, so I didn't upgrade... [01:10] aftertaf: what about oct 13? [01:10] looksaus: good thing! you can do it again now, it wont remove it [01:10] ok [01:10] looksaus: guessing what your qu was gonna be ;) [01:10] p_jnco: you got it? [01:10] is it safe to apt-get dist-upgrade to breezy from hoary ? [01:10] im in /etc/X11 i did a ls but [01:10] i dont see the file here [01:10] is it hidden [01:10] xorg.conf === fluffybunny_ [i=6ixmknwu@nat-gw.nbn.ac.za] has left #ubuntu [] [01:11] sobersabre: it should be safe in october 13 [01:11] p_jnco: nope.... sudo nano xorg.conf [01:11] lol @ safe === pharar [n=pharar@193.145.150.119] has joined #ubuntu [01:11] Belutz, when do the guys freeze the release ? [01:11] BUenos dias [01:11] sobersabre: October 13 [01:11] sobersabre: they already have, sort of... now were squishing bugzzz [01:11] opens blank file === adl [n=opera@213.129.245.27] has joined #ubuntu [01:11] im x86 [01:11] p_jnco: ok... we have apb then. [01:12] someone had me do this [01:12] Belutz, this sounds strange: to release the day the distro is frozen sounds mandrake [01:12] earlier [01:12] [13:24:42] robotgeek : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [01:12] wtf? [01:12] p_jnco: brezy or hoary? [01:12] or warty? === custodioroselda [n=guest@210.213.154.245] has joined #ubuntu [01:12] im warty [01:12] sobersabre: most of the time, breezy seems to be in a more or less releasable state [01:12] hehe bimberi ;) [01:13] i am [01:13] =) [01:13] hehe [01:13] if you feel a bit adventurous [01:13] p_jnco: do you have internet on pc? [01:13] yes [01:13] looksaus, what are the unresolved problems ? [01:13] http://www.ubuntu.com/newsitems/5.10preview [01:13] wanna remote? [01:13] I've been running it since about the first day [01:13] ok... i recommend upping to hoary [01:13] ok [01:13] i did run the updates [01:13] of development [01:13] on installation [01:13] haory works well === theblue [n=theblue@pcp04402293pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:13] how do i update [01:13] that will answer all questions about when it will be releaced [01:13] but you should know what you're doing [01:13] Linux p4ht 2.6.14-rc2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Sep 23 03:17:41 PDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux <-- behold my glory [01:13] lol [01:13] and be prepared to fix strange things here and there [01:13] behold my glory [01:13] p_jnco: ok..... we'll change you repositories [01:14] !!! [01:14] [!] what you add before a sentence to talk to me === custodioroselda [n=guest@210.213.154.245] has joined #ubuntu [01:14] if not, just keep to hoary for the moment [01:14] !!! === custodioroselda [n=guest@210.213.154.245] has joined #ubuntu [01:14] do you have synaptic installed p_jnco ? [01:14] i havent installed any packages other then a theme [01:14] ok... === custodioroselda [n=guest@210.213.154.245] has joined #ubuntu [01:14] type sudo apt-get install synaptic [01:15] looksaus, I am working with ubuntu since hoary, but I work with it - gcc, gdb, vi etc. will I be safe to move to it ? [01:15] ok [01:15] from anywhere [01:15] where i am now even === sedak [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:15] looksaus, i mean to move upwards to breezy [01:15] yep.. dont matter. when installed let me know [01:15] p_jnco: you can run without going into the directories... === vinboy [n=vinboy@60-234-137-136.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu [01:15] So, anyone know how gnome defines things like dvd://? [01:15] sobresabre, I've experienced little or no problems upgrading, but then again, I'm used to administering several server systems running Debian === eoliJ [n=euxooid@193.226.47.204] has joined #ubuntu === eoliJ [n=euxooid@193.226.47.204] has left #ubuntu [] [01:16] installed [01:16] already [01:16] =) [01:16] debian pwns ;) [01:16] i understand [01:16] looksaus, me too is Debian.... [01:16] p_jnco: ok.... type gksu synaptic === Orunitia [n=Orunitia@69-172-23-123.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:17] As long as my laptop boots, mounts and exec's it is enough. X is nice too... will I have these ? [01:17] of course === Echelon-H [n=echelon@DSL217-132-0-70.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [01:17] ok :) [01:17] ok [01:17] sobersabre: depends on material.... but breezy is working quite well at the mo.... [01:17] where [01:17] 's [01:17] it asked me for my root pw [01:17] then did nothing [01:17] the list of repositories ? [01:17] p_jnco: nope, your own pw, not root's ;) [01:17] !repositories [01:17] repositories is, like, at at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy) [01:17] both teh same [01:17] just change hoary to breezy... [01:18] glxgears didnt give me a readout in breezy === Juul [n=Juul@wnn0391.wireless.dtu.dk] has joined #ubuntu [01:18] what is it supposed to do === pc22 [n=arik@222.126.13.162] has joined #ubuntu [01:18] the gears came up but nothing in the xterminal [01:18] p_jnco: supposed to run :/ === Toffer [i=winterhj@tiger.stud.ntnu.no] has joined #ubuntu [01:18] sobersabre: good luck === looksaus [n=mark@ip-83-134-125-78.dsl.scarlet.be] has left #ubuntu [] [01:18] Someone know the game crack-attack ? There are no sound with the ubuntu package. I had a crack-attack-sound package with Mandriva. Are ther any licence issue with the sounds for crack-attack explaining they are not packaged with ubuntu ? [01:19] p_jnco: you sure about your own pasword? [01:19] so, i'm playing with this shiny new breezy install, and i'm wondering; with all this graphical easy configuration stuff, how do i install a new network card and configure it? === aBxvuouu [n=uipurroe@85.204.194.12] has joined #ubuntu === aBxvuouu [n=uipurroe@85.204.194.12] has left #ubuntu [] [01:20] Juul: it should be recognised on boot. [01:20] Juul: if your network card is supported, it should work o-o-t-b [01:20] what if i haven't re-booted? [01:20] wtf!!! [01:20] it says wrong password [01:20] why [01:20] =/ [01:20] is there a default [01:20] what's the command to change permission? [01:20] root pw [01:20] p_jnco: nope.... root is disabled. sudo asks you for your own user password [01:20] p_jnco: did they tell you about root? [01:20] it says enter pw for root [01:20] Echelon-H: chmod [01:21] thanks === AngryParsley_ [n=AngryPar@ool-457619d7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu === Marxist [n=richard@pool-141-157-234-103.ny325.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu === lorenzod [n=lorenzod@80.87.77.58] has joined #ubuntu [01:21] p_jnco: maybe, but it shouldnt.... [01:21] it should ask you for your user pw [01:21] is it because [01:21] i used root terminal [01:21] il log out [01:21] and log back it [01:21] try again? [01:21] =) [01:21] hehe ok [01:21] quit [01:21] is there any logical reason for a unrar to fail? [01:21] corrupt archive? [01:22] password protected rar? [01:22] dont think it's corrupted [01:22] hrrrm [01:22] nvm [01:23] eche: wrong rar version? [01:23] suddenly it's taking 5 minutes to start "network settings" why could that be? [01:23] eche: remember.. rar is not free software ... unrar is a free implementation of SOME rar versions [01:23] nvm i worked it out [01:23] eche: oooh, how dod you manage taht? ;-) === Elleo [n=Elleo@shellsong.plus.com] has joined #ubuntu === ioiguDeuli [n=ressam_m@151.82.0.9] has joined #ubuntu [01:24] Hi all. === sexcopter8001m [n=NNSCRIPT@82-34-47-19.cable.ubr01.chel.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:24] ok great. [01:24] ok, something entirely different: how do i get ubuntu to auto-detect when a network cable has been plugged in/out and take the interface down/up ? [01:24] now gksu [01:24] is looking for my root pw [01:24] still [01:24] its because i tried to install it [01:24] from root terminal [01:24] thats why === zkTvPU [n=eoiooeii@85.96.230.64] has joined #ubuntu [01:24] wouldnt u say [01:25] Has anybody else noticed anything funny when using rhythmbox with auto-rate? [01:25] p_jnco: use your own password. [01:25] enyc, didn't finish download the thingy *dumb dumb* [01:25] eche: lol ok === zkTvPU [n=eoiooeii@85.96.230.64] has left #ubuntu [] [01:25] p_jnco: for the record, it's gksudo 8) === oooaeWlee [n=uipurroe@85.204.194.12] has joined #ubuntu === oooaeWlee [n=uipurroe@85.204.194.12] has left #ubuntu [] [01:25] forget it. [01:25] oh [01:25] apokryphos: my bad... :/ [01:25] hehe [01:25] well === aftertaf ... [01:25] gksu is abreviated === ioiguDeuli is now known as engin34_ist [01:25] ok trying sudo apt-get install synaptic from my terminal [01:25] not the root terminal === ml-- [n=kenta@c-b574e353.022-2027-73746f16.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [01:26] hopefully that will fix it [01:26] hopefully [01:26] !enter [01:26] don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks! [01:26] p_jnco: already installed... you need to run it [01:26] i try [01:26] it asks for pw to root [01:26] p_jnco: what was the problem? [01:26] gksudo synaptic (put in user passwd) [01:26] gksu synaptics [01:26] is asking for my root pw [01:26] when i try to run it [01:26] Playing a song now *decreases* its rating in rhythmbox. [01:27] should i be using gksu or gksudo or it doesnt matter [01:27] p_jnco: gksu is a *whole nother program*, not good to abbreviate to that. [01:27] wows [01:27] so is that why [01:27] p_jnco: gksudo synaptic (put in user passwd).... this will run synaptic package manager [01:27] oh [01:27] so its sudo === ckidd [n=Ed@24.115.29.151.res-cmts.wbh.ptd.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:27] apokryphos the master button pusher [01:27] not su [01:27] p_jnco: this is how we learn things. ;) [01:28] hi [01:28] i guess so huh after [01:28] p_jnco: don't use the key as punctuation! === jpfarias [n=jpfarias@proxy.gerencia.ufrn.br] has joined #ubuntu [01:28] hi! === muep [n=joonas@roi-1445.cable.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu === engin34_ist [n=ressam_m@151.82.0.9] has left #ubuntu [] === eroYuyzi [n=eoiooeii@85.96.230.64] has joined #ubuntu [01:28] is there any splash image for grub about ubuntu available? [01:28] jpfarias: if you're on breezy, yes === nxv_ [n=nxv_@dsl-084-056-087-191.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:28] apokryphos, how to install it? [01:29] p_jnco: ok, if synaptic is running, we can change your sources.... to get you on to hoary. [01:29] I'm on breezy [01:29] ok [01:29] it worked [01:29] now what =) === eroYuyzi [n=eoiooeii@85.96.230.64] has left #ubuntu [] [01:29] jpfarias: it's already installed, to set it... sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) === sjj [n=sjj___@adsl-1-046.QLD.dft.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === luckyaba [n=privolig@ip68-6-87-26.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:29] p_jnco: now try not to press enter between every word [01:29] sorry habbit [01:30] Anyone here running ubuntu on a laptop? I'm running it on a Dell Inspiron 8600 and am having trouble tuning the power setttings to an acceptable level. [01:30] after? [01:30] p_jnco: ok... im reinstalling synaptic to guide you ;) [01:30] can anybody tell me how to get a linksys wireless notebook adapter to work with ubuntu? === metadonchu [i=kde@85.11.148.133] has joined #ubuntu === Jettis [n=h0h0@a80-186-63-106.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [01:30] apokryphos, Searching for splash image... none found, skipping... [01:30] aftertaf: if you're giving methods for installation, it's good to point to the wiki [01:30] The default settings don't appear to apply any power saving techniques, and if I leave the laptop on unattended for a while (or even while using it) it gets almost unacceptably hot [01:31] apokryphos: yep, but he's on warty with xfree86 [01:31] thanks after === luckyaba [n=privolig@ip68-6-87-26.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:31] jpfarias: you're on breezy? Did you have ubuntu-desktop installed before you dist-upgraded? [01:31] whats wiki [01:31] need to install any package to get the splash? [01:31] the other package upgrader? === rdfm [n=rdfm@host24-173.pool8259.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [01:31] apokryphos, yes [01:31] nope, a guide to using ubuntu.... [01:31] i think i used this synaptic with redhat [01:31] oh [01:31] jpfarias: dpkg -l|grep usplash ...gives? [01:31] I'm having a little success playing around with hdparm settings and the like, but I was hoping there'd be some ubuntu way of doing it [01:31] <[A] ndy80> O_o I'm trying to do a dist-upgrage on my ubuntu breezy and it tell me: the following packages will be removed: 65 packages of xserver-xorg* !!! how is it possible? [01:32] ii usplash 0.1-10 Userspace bootsplash utility [01:32] [A] ndy80: reupdate and itll go away [01:32] maybe it has to remove them [01:32] <[A] ndy80> aftertaf: apt-get update? [01:32] p_jnco: ok... go to settings menu > repositories [01:32] [A] ndy80: yep :) [01:32] jpfarias: hm, it's all there, not sure why it's going wrong.. [01:32] <[A] ndy80> aftertaf: thanks :) === kitsch [n=jin@84-217-19-196.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:33] ok [01:33] one sec [01:33] jpfarias: by the way, you *do* mean a splashy, right? Not graphics or whatever for the GRUB boot selector? [01:33] I think this usplash is the graphical boot, don't it? [01:33] jpfarias: splash for bootup sequence, or for grub ? [01:33] for grub [01:33] ok [01:33] im there [01:33] jpfarias: oh ok, no there isn't one [01:33] grub-themes works for me jpfarias [01:33] hmm [01:33] jpfarias: apparently easy to do (I did it in the past) === melek^^ [n=ressam_m@151.82.0.9] has joined #ubuntu [01:34] p_jnco: ok...... see those lines archive.ubuntu.com.... with warty written? change every instance of warty to hoary === melek^^ [n=ressam_m@151.82.0.9] has left #ubuntu [] [01:34] ok. [01:34] aftertaf: easy way is to recommend sed :) [01:34] found grub-splashimages [01:35] question [01:35] even the ones that arnt checked? === ctp6360 [n=ctp6360@r220-101-77-180.cpe.unwired.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:35] also [01:35] apokryphos: true.... but ive never used it yet myself ;) === ctp6360 [n=ctp6360@r220-101-77-180.cpe.unwired.net.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:35] just archive. [01:35] aftertaf: check your ubotu PM === andreas__ [n=andreas@p54AEA3A9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [01:35] theres 2 instances === ctp6360 [n=ctp6360@r220-101-77-180.cpe.unwired.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:35] p_jnco: all that start with deb http:// yes... [01:35] well 4 but 2 are checked [01:35] heheheh apo :) === twoSharp [n=twoSharp@ti400720a081-12203.bb.online.no] has joined #ubuntu [01:36] p_jnco: get it to resemble what ubotu will send you [01:36] !tell p_jnco about repositories [01:37] i have java on ubuntu and that lets me use it for firefox no how do i get java for opera? [01:37] apokryphos: yeah, i'm complicating things for myself here, i appreciate that ;) [01:37] where can i find a list of all packages in base-system, but only base-system like in server installation? [01:37] what about http://security.ubuntu [01:37] =) [01:37] those too? [01:37] looool [01:37] guys, shall I run apt-get upgrade and then apt-get dist-upgrade or just the latter ? [01:37] p_jnco: yep. [01:37] so change to hoary-security === eTFeaeM [n=obooiazo@adsl-242-34-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu [01:37] (upgrading hoary to breezy ) [01:37] update first [01:38] sobersabre: you haven't mentioned what you're trying to do :) [01:38] from warty-security [01:38] sobersabre, usually just do dist-upgrade [01:38] then click ok? === eTFeaeM [n=obooiazo@adsl-242-34-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] [01:38] ok [01:38] thanks [01:38] p_jnco: was the only one active the cdrom? and YES for warty-security, change too ;) [01:38] I am still in the middle of update... so I have some time to think [01:38] no [01:38] ... === ctp6360 [n=ctp6360@r220-101-77-180.cpe.unwired.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:38] the archive was active [01:38] then click ok. and click the update button === curious_kitty [n=kat@ppp26.dial-up.uoc.gr] has left #ubuntu [] [01:38] as were security [01:39] thanks [01:39] ok for cdrom.. good ;) [01:39] twoSharp: you can look at the direct dependencies of the "ubuntu-base" package [01:39] which gnome version is in breezy ? [01:39] 2.12 ? [01:39] yes [01:39] kool... === philipp_ [n=philipp@dsl-082-083-133-143.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:39] i've been working lately with kde [01:40] sobersabre: so why move to the dark side? ;-) [01:40] apokryphos, I am like water. [01:40] loool apokryphos ;) [01:40] default or smart upgrade? [01:40] im hitting mark all upgrades [01:40] is that whjat u meant [01:40] apokryphos, and for me, gnome is less dark side... [01:40] yep..... smart upgrade [01:40] inspite i am on kde ;-) [01:41] bimberi: =) [01:41] sobersabre: the force will no longer be wth you, young Skywalker. === n00b [n=noobiz@tru75-6-82-240-33-149.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:41] itll update a lot of stuff... then you'l need to reboot. [01:41] apokryphos, I am like water. === n00b [n=noobiz@tru75-6-82-240-33-149.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:41] sobersabre: wow, that's almost poetic :P [01:41] it is poetic in some languages. [01:42] !use_the_force [01:42] aftertaf: I give up, what is it? === CuNdA [n=ressam_m@151.82.0.9] has joined #ubuntu [01:42] OK, guys, I am goin out of X during the upgrade. === CuNdA is now known as SUPH^^ === SUPH^^ [n=ressam_m@151.82.0.9] has left #ubuntu [] [01:42] thanks for the help., [01:42] sigh === desplesda [n=desplesd@CPE-143-238-234-78.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [01:43] i got an eror about bsdutils not being able to upgrade [01:43] then it all went to shit [01:43] who do i have to screw to get xcommon to update [01:43] ok.... in gnome, open up this file: /etc/apt/sources.list and paste it to me as a private message === hypn0 [n=chatzill@host81-7-57-59.surfport24.v21.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:44] k [01:44] its working now [01:44] hehe cool [01:44] how many meg to download? === punkrockmcduck [n=punkrock@pcp0011293705pcs.muncie01.in.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === elad` [n=elad`@IGLD-80-230-97-197.inter.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [01:45] a lot [01:45] bimberi, Now I've found it in ubuntu-minimal :) But how can I remove some of the packages, and fix it so it installs anyway, just without the packages I, don't want? [01:45] hi everybody! === sexcopter8000m [n=NNSCRIPT@82-34-47-19.cable.ubr01.chel.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [01:45] anyone around fancy addressing a sound problem? [01:45] 799 files [01:45] 15 min worth [01:45] do I need to worry about compatability issues with wireless optical mice? [01:45] highspeed [01:45] Does anyone know if ubuntu is going to fix the usb flash drive problem anytime soon? [01:45] p_jnco: ok... when done, reboot ;) long live 700 kbps [01:45] How do I make the Num Lock led on by default? === vinboy [n=vinboy@60-234-137-136.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu [01:46] longlive 2400bps [01:46] hmmmm pppoeconf doesn't always do the right thing..... http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16127 [01:46] bimberi, any ideas? [01:46] anyone around want to give me links to any non-standard advice on audio deviceS? === slam_laptop [n=slam@chello062178063034.22.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #ubuntu [01:47] twoSharp: what's the issue - lack of HDD capacity? [01:47] SYNAPTIC OWNZ U [01:47] SYNAPTIC OWNZ U [01:47] lol === xxxmxxx [n=ressam_m@151.82.0.9] has joined #ubuntu === Octane [n=octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu === stagger [n=stagger@p50906433.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:47] p_jnco, how old are you ? === irvin [n=irvin@203.215.115.150] has joined #ubuntu [01:47] 22 [01:47] lol [01:48] haha [01:48] harsh [01:48] SYNATPIC BEATS WINDOWS UPDATE HANDS DOWN [01:48] wireless usb mice, anybody know of compatability issues, or do they just work like regular usb mice? [01:48] and you're happy it's working..... this is just the start of a long relationship [01:48] you're a year older than me :P === slam_laptop [n=slam@chello062178063034.22.11.vie.surfer.at] has left #ubuntu ["Konversation] [01:48] they arnt on the same scene [01:48] and/or scale [01:48] synaptic is for girls! [01:48] p_jnco: alright, no shouting please [01:48] klolol [01:48] apt-get is how the men do it [01:48] p_jnco: but you can get told off for shouting & stuff..... ;) [01:48]
                      while trying to boot, last line before my install freezes is hw_random: RNG not detected... bad? [01:48] synaptic is for girls [01:48] lol [01:49] WebLOCH: true, but can't run when you've never walked in linux ;) [01:49] bimberi, I really like ubuntu and its wy of debian.. I have an assignment to build a linux distro thats secure and very fast. So I want to try making a stripped ubuntu, maybe using xfce or fluxbox instead of gnome... is this possible? [01:49] are you a girl? [01:49] someone will rip me apart [01:49] gentlebeings, comparisons can be made in #ubuntu-offtopic [01:49] synaptic is good for telling me when I need to update, but then I just run apt to do it. [01:49] im such a noob lol [01:49] aftertaf, I know, was just joking really [01:49] no [01:49] twoSharp: yes it's possible [01:49] sorry nerds dont get girls...nerd. === SanderD [n=SanderD@ip503c2a37.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ubuntu [01:49] i'm on breezy but there was an error during my update/upgrade [01:49] x-common won't install [01:49] dpkg error code 1 [01:49] naioth: any hints so i can make it fourther? [01:49] thats a lie, thats a lie! [01:49] i had the same problem earlier. [01:50] irvin: it happens, try apt-get update again. [01:50] gentlebeings: a/s/l talk in #ubuntu-offtopic please [01:50] twoSharp: yes, start with a "server install" and build from there [01:50] I had a girl. [01:50] twosharp we charge a consulting fee here [01:50] I swear it! [01:50] pm me and i will tell u where to send [01:50] JK! [01:50] WebLOCH: p_jnco you can banter all you want in offtopic [01:50] Hi everybody [01:50] aftertaf, yeah I know, its just nice to have some general chat in the main room, lightens the mood, ill shutup now === luckyaba [n=privolig@ip68-6-87-26.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:50] Hi. I've got an AMD64 processor. Can I run all 32-bit applications (including games) in a 32-bit chroot, or should I just use the i386 kernel instead of the AMD64 version? [01:51] aftertaf, same error === ferdi [n=ferdi@59.93.192.127] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:51] OK, trying again: rhythmbox-0.9.0-0ubuntu5 [01:51] WebLOCH: dont bother me... but ppls probs can get drowned out and it can end up messy..... ;) [01:51] SanderD: for maximum usage, use a x86 kernel [01:51] aftertaf, yeah its true :( [01:51] And the previous number of versions.. [01:51] bimberi, nalioth: but when I have removed and added all packages that i want, how can i then make a install cd so my class can get a copy? [01:51] It seems auto-rate is a bit upside-down.. [01:51] irvin: looking === alisher [n=alex@vp173029.nt.uac64.hknet.com] has joined #ubuntu [01:52] do people make fun of ubuntu and call it linux for noobs.. or is that koppix? [01:52] twoSharp: ah, not sure about that sorry [01:52] twoSharp: now that's a different kettle of fish. you want to know how to remaster the liveCd, right? [01:52] Anybody else notice that songs decrease in rating them more you play them? [01:52] p_jnco: never heard someome say knoppix is linux for noobs === hazmat_ [n=hazmat@177.turbo.at] has joined #ubuntu [01:52] p_jnco: thats us, all new users [01:52] isn't koppix what you do with boobs? [01:52] what about ubuntu === eFFay [n=effay@l337.khg.sgsnet.se] has joined #ubuntu [01:52] or is that coppin [01:53] gentoo is the ticket. [01:53] emerge.. [01:53] windows is linux for n00bs..... ubuntu is great for those who want to get to know linux properly [01:53] u cant mess with emerge [01:53] well its great stuff [01:53] il tell ya [01:53] nalioth: There won't be a big difference in speed if I use an x86 kernel instead of AMD64? [01:53] I think ubuntu's biggest problem, is that its the "nice, moral" way of doing things [01:53] and its giving me good access to the gui but at the same time probing me to use the command line === pioWeg [n=yxeiteoa@62.162.222.114] has joined #ubuntu [01:53] its too nice === trigger_ph [n=jon@202.84.116.66] has joined #ubuntu [01:53] SanderD, it will be 0.04 seconds slower on every operation [01:53] which puts it at natural disadvantage [01:53] its like the aol of linux [01:53] ubuntu is also great for more professional linux users who want a good reliable system that they just can use they way they want to ... === trigger_ph [n=jon@202.84.116.66] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [01:54] p_jnco: please do NOT press every few seconds; it floods the channel and is annoying :) === pioWeg [n=yxeiteoa@62.162.222.114] has left #ubuntu [] [01:54] damn [01:54] damn i keep diong that i apologize its force of habbit === ranyzvrany [n=ranyzvra@85-135-130-93.adsl.slovanet.sk] has joined #ubuntu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu === codenut [n=abeck@chtw11-84.pei.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [01:54] ctp6360: Hm, I don't think I'll notice that. Could I upgrade from x86 to amd64 when that's 'better supported'? [01:54] im gonna explore the wonderful world of the sudo command [01:55] nalioth: maybe, im not sure.. What I want is to make a minimal, secure and very fast distro.. using fxce or fluxbox instead of gnome.. and then I need to make a dummy-package like ubuntu-minimal, ubuntu-desktop, etc. just an empty packgae with the dependencies.. === luckyaba [n=privolig@ip68-6-87-26.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:55] twoSharp: to install or run live? [01:55] twoSharp: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDCustomizationHowTo [01:55] nalioth, to install [01:55] twoSharp, there is no point in doing that unless you use old outdated hardware [01:55] and maybe live later.. [01:55] SanderD, I don't think so mate...I have an AMD64 too and I have used the amd64 version before....in short, the hassles of trying to get 32bit stuff to run on 64bit are not worth the MINIMAL speed increase it provides === nxv_ [n=nxv_@dsl-084-056-087-191.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:55] twoSharp: ... except that's for LiveCD :| === irvin [n=irvin@203.215.115.150] has joined #ubuntu [01:56] twoSharp: you may wish to ask your question in a few hours [01:56] twoSharp, all of the performance you save isn't worth jack if your hardware doesnt work :P [01:56] hey guys, x-common is buggy on today update [01:56] WebLOCH: disadvantage compared to what? === luckyaba [n=privolig@ip68-6-87-26.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:56] SanderD, remember, 64bit stuff is only good for cpu-intensive operations like encoding videos and stuff, unless you do that constantly i would recommend the 386 version [01:56] jpfarias: yes, don't install it [01:56] ah okay. so since root is logged out. we use sudo it initialize root commands/functions from our own login [01:56] jpfarias: also, /topic [01:56] nalioth, what then? [01:56] jpfarias, yes [01:56] broke my mine too [01:56] bob2, MS have clearly done the opposite, they're big and mean, as a result they dominate market, now we cant get decent drivers for new hardware in linux [01:56] p_jnco: check wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for more information [01:56] p_jnco: sort of yeah [01:56] !sudo [01:56] rumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo [01:56] twoSharp: hopefully some developers/otherknowledgablepeople/spaceAliens will be here and can assist you further === czone8 [n=czone8@202.78.92.115] has joined #ubuntu [01:56] WebLOCH, Its an school assignment, about knowing linuxand its sooftwaqre.. [01:57] WebLOCH: which new hardware has no linux drivers? [01:57] twoSharp, thats cool === eqieaCen [n=ipoieueb@62.162.222.114] has joined #ubuntu [01:57] bob2, a Lot of Asus motherboards as they dont support it === UiDoee [n=aoieni@81.213.13.227] has joined #ubuntu === eqieaCen [n=ipoieueb@62.162.222.114] has left #ubuntu [] [01:57] bob2, a whole bunch of my hardware [01:57] ctp6360: Okay, thanks. I think you're right, I don't like this chroot thing --- still not everything works properly. I'll install the x86 version of Breezy when it's released. [01:57] WebLOCH: evidence? === UiDoee [n=aoieni@81.213.13.227] has left #ubuntu [] [01:57] nalioth, ok :) but do you have any ideas of how to make a dummy-package with dependencies I choose? === UiDoee [n=aoieni@81.213.13.227] has joined #ubuntu === UiDoee [n=aoieni@81.213.13.227] has left #ubuntu [] [01:57] twoSharp: "equivs" [01:58] bob2: true, ive heard a couple of ppl with laptops asus mboards and onboard stuff not supported. [01:58] bob2 :) [01:58] WebLOCH: all Asus I've seen support Linux fine and dandy; not that I've tried that many (my brother runs, and I did for a bit) [01:58] twoSharp: ask bob2 (he's one of the aforementioned spaceAliens) [01:58] SanderD, I think that's the most sensible way to do it, I don't like the chroot idea either and you don't want to miss out on certain apps just for a tiny inperceptable speed difference [01:58] hehe [01:58] apokryphos, what about the P5WD2 Premium? [01:58] Anyone using ubuntu to work with thier cellphones? [01:58] this is fun [01:58] I'd be very surprised if linux failed to work on any desktops [01:58] apokryphos, Ubuntu is running now, but it doesnt recognise the hardware [01:58] bob2, I did not say it didnt work [01:58] WebLOCH: not one I've tried, unfortunately === Uyaxiioa [n=aoieni@81.213.13.227] has joined #ubuntu === Uyaxiioa [n=aoieni@81.213.13.227] has left #ubuntu [] === luckyaba [n=privolig@ip68-6-87-26.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [01:59] bob2, but if you dont have specific drivers ubuntu can hardly be making the best use of the hardware [01:59] WebLOCH: so, your sound not working != linux not supporting it [01:59] No not at all [01:59] WebLOCH: that's really not how things work outside windows [01:59] bob2, I wasnt talking about that at all [01:59] "specific drivers" is not even really defined [01:59] bob2, I know my soundcard is installed [01:59] lots of drivers have work arounds for shitty bugs === Linux_Galore [n=logan1@60-240-8-91-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === vader1102 [n=kevin@dsl-72-1-219.170.tel-ott.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:00] e.g. the 8139too driver is one big workaround for the fact realtek can't design ethernet controllers === incubii [i=incubii@cor14-ppp1489.hay.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:00] bob2, which is fair enough [02:00] bob2, far too much is "work arounds" due to poor design [02:00] ubuntu is differnt [02:00] know the funny thing about he 8139 driver, it works better in Linux than using the native driver in Windows === uoeedWLO [n=ipoieueb@62.162.222.114] has joined #ubuntu [02:00] linux overall is differnt, its the fact that it is well designed in a poorly implemented world that causes the problem === uoeedWLO [n=ipoieueb@62.162.222.114] has left #ubuntu [] === elad` [n=elad`@IGLD-80-230-97-197.inter.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [02:01] Ive come to the conclusion people can say "Linux doesn't do this or that", but Im still going to be using Linux [02:01] Well I am [02:02] Despite what I said === DuDe [n=dude@c-24-12-202-69.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === deelaz [n=Deelaz@84.32.121.46] has joined #ubuntu === sobersabre [n=max@l192-115-16-116.broadband.actcom.net.il] has joined #ubuntu === deelaz [n=Deelaz@84.32.121.46] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === ctp6360 [n=ctp6360@r220-101-77-180.cpe.unwired.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:02] I can live with Linux, bit not with windows [02:02] i am upgrading hoary to breezy. it is soooo SLOOOOWWW! [02:02] but* [02:02] archive.ubuntu.com [02:02] sobersabre, wait 20 days [02:02] how to delete a directory ? rm -i PATH ? [02:02] sobersabre: depends on your connection and what mirror you use === helpme [n=yasser@59.93.246.203] has joined #ubuntu === boxerboy29 [n=boxerboy@adsl-144-177-44.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:03] ctp6360: rmdir [02:03] how do i start OO beta....i have both 113 and beta installed....anyone? [02:03] crtr, sudo rm -rd path [02:03] which mirror is there in europe/middle east ? [02:03] Linux_Galore, rmdir is only for empty directories [02:03] hiya guys:) [02:03] fredforfaen: it shold have appeared in your menu... if on gnome restart X === toxicle [n=toxicle@60.48.182.36] has joined #ubuntu [02:04] 10x [02:04] WebLOCH: rmdir --ignore-fail-on-non-empty [02:04] lol [02:04] aftertaf ok...but do you know what the binary is called? === thesaltydog [n=yoshi@host194-61.pool8023.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [02:04] oh. it got better ( 80k ) but still below ny cap. === alisher [n=alex@vp173029.nt.uac64.hknet.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:04] hi guys ... is there an ncurses way of configuring your network ? [02:04] whats the chances that someone tried to do updates on breezy this morning and couldnt upgrade the xcommon? [02:04] Linux_Galore, Im pretty sure that just doesnt tell you if it fails, it doesnt actually remove the dir tho? [02:04] is gcc 4 the default gcc under breezy ? [02:04] hello [02:04] fredforfaen: nope..... [02:04] WebLOCH: it removes it even if its full [02:04] damn [02:04] sobersabre, if you install it yeah [02:04] toxicle: vim /etc/network/interfaces [02:04] sobersabre: yes === deelaz [n=Deelaz@84.32.121.46] has joined #ubuntu [02:04] how can I have smaller fonts in console output, having usplash at boot? === deelaz [n=Deelaz@84.32.121.46] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:04] ok ill restart x then..brb [02:04] Linux_Galore, ahh [02:04] fredforfaen: hang on... [02:04] [02:05] sobersabre: basically everything aside from the kernel is compiled with it [02:05] boxerboy29: /topic [02:05] seriously, folks [02:05] same problem w xcommon [02:05] bob2: is there a man for interfaces file ? [02:05] I don't want Ubuntu to update my clock whenever I start the computer (actually, at all). How do I change that? === aixiu [n=aoieni@81.213.13.227] has joined #ubuntu [02:05] DO NOT USE BREEZY IF YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO USE APT [02:05] sobersabre: http://il.archive.ubuntu.com ? === aixiu is now known as ipHepek === ipHepek is now known as JrBiAa [02:05] ooffice2 -base === helpme [n=yasser@59.93.246.203] has joined #ubuntu [02:05] bob2: are you saying thats off topic? [02:05] elad`: sudo rm /etc/rcS.d/S*ntp* [02:05] according to your host should be quite close === fredforfaen [n=Morrari@216-134-9.0502.adsl.tele2.no] has joined #ubuntu [02:05] boxerboy29: I'm saying it's a known issue, which is in the topic [02:05] !backports [02:05] fredforfaen: ooffice2 -base [02:05] Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list. More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports === JrBiAa is now known as eaiVf === eaiVf [n=aoieni@81.213.13.227] has left #ubuntu [] [02:05] atha i have bad experience with il. mirrors, like outdated or missing packages... [02:05] oh ok ty [02:05] WebLOCH: I should hack the code for rmdir and change that verbose flag to -i [02:06] can i add whatever repos i want...like non-free ones? [02:06] Linux_Galore, I think ill probably just use rm anyway [02:06] aftertaf thanx [02:06] sobersabre: il.archive.ubuntu.com points at archive.ubuntu.com [02:06] helpme: you can do whatever you want, but if you use non-ubuntu repositories, you're on your own when you break it [02:06] bob2: what is the correct line to add if i wanna set static ip for my box? [02:07] bob2 ty [02:07] toxicle: eth0 inet static [02:07] aftertaf dont have that binary [02:07] :( === Madeye [n=Jad@213.186.177.235] has joined #Ubuntu [02:07] I can't get my scroll on my mouse to work [02:07] sobersabre: Ubuntu uses pretty up_to_date packages and Debian mirrors have a habbit of erring on the safe side with older packages [02:07] aftertaf: don't seem to work ... i had to use dhcp to really get on the net [02:07] what was the shell command for showing every packages installed on system atm? [02:07] toxicle: iface eth0 inet static... the you set the config yourself. [02:07] although the ip is correct but domains just won't resolve [02:08] resolve.conf is correct [02:08] fredforfaen: hmmm. ooffice2 ?? [02:08] bob2: but in debian.theres hardly any fear of breaking the system...then why in ubuntu when its debian-based? [02:08] helpme: wtf [02:08] how can I have smaller fonts in console output, having usplash at boot? [02:08] debian is tougher than ubuntu? [02:08] helpme: in debian you're just as screwed if you use shitty apt sources [02:08] helpme: no, you're just wrong [02:08] toxicle: under #The primary network interface etc... put iface ethX (usually eth0) inet static; next line put address 10.0.0.XX, next line netmask, next line gateway, then next line "auto eth0) [02:08] helpme: Debian based doesnt mean "it is debian" [02:08] aftertaf dont have it , i just did a locate ooffice2 and nada! [02:08] helpme: in debian you can shaft the whole thing in 2 seconds with deb http//crap.com === dandelion [n=dandelio@ALamentin-101-1-2-248.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [02:08] toxicle there are networks that don't allow auxilary IPs to be taken. [02:09] apokryphos: thanks [02:09] bob2: u shouldnt be abusive atleast [02:09] fredforfaen: no idea thezn. [02:09] helpme: I'm not being abusive, I'm politely correcting you === QebNxw [n=aoieni@81.213.13.227] has joined #ubuntu [02:09] sobersabre: it's my own router [02:09] aftertaf damn === juerry [n=gerarcon@85-18-14-12.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:09] where can I read the full kernel options available for 2.6.12-9? === talios [n=amrk@202-74-217-142.ue.woosh.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu === juerry [n=gerarcon@85-18-14-12.fastres.net] has left #ubuntu ["Sto] [02:09] toxicle so you've got a typo in interfaces file. [02:09] thesaltydog: /boot/ [02:09] toxicle: man interfaces...... [02:10] bob2, tnx [02:10] God damnit, again, I can't get anything to work that needs a password === juerry [n=gerarcon@85-18-14-12.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:10] helpme, he's had a lot of hassle and a lot of caffeine, i havent seen him shutup since i've been here. Although I think he gave up on me hours ago [02:10] thesaltydog: in your config file in /boot/ === QebNxw is now known as xeouMkqv [02:10] one thing Ive learnt in the 8 years Ive used LInux......use the "official" package server, if its not thete download the taball and compile it [02:10] But I have to get to work, so I will be back in about 7-8 hours [02:10] hi there, someone works with audio editing? [02:10] there* [02:10] bob2, I moved it to ~/, and saw it move there (actually, seemed like it was a shortcut), then it disappeared! === xeouMkqv [n=aoieni@81.213.13.227] has left #ubuntu [] [02:10] DuDe: did you touch your sudo or password configuration? [02:10] thanks :) [02:10] elad`: ok... === alisher [n=alex@vp173029.nt.uac64.hknet.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:10] elad`: there's no reason to move it [02:10] aftertaf, bob2, no, sorry.. I was speaking about grub command line options, such as console=tty0, etc.. [02:11] bob2, I didn't want to delete it. [02:11] will ubuntu always stick to this sudo system? [02:11] thesaltydog: /boot/grub/menu.lst [02:11] elad`: why? it's a symlink. [02:11] helpme: unless something better comes along. Currently it's easily the superior model [02:11] what is the command for showing every application thats installed on system? [02:11] A what? [02:11] helpme: yes, but competent admins use sudo on Debian and other systems, anyway [02:11] helpme: yes untill someone figures out a better method === jhaa [n=juha@dsl-aur5-kb8.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu === pwu1 [n=pwu1@210.213.226.60] has joined #ubuntu [02:11] elad`: nevermind, but there's no reason to move it instead of deleting it [02:11] bob2, the full available commands list? === Airk [i=superbot@p54AADB8C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:11] thesaltydog: ohhh ok... dunno ;) [02:11] twoSharp: dpkg -l | grep ^ii === iirieXWir [n=aoieni@81.213.13.227] has joined #ubuntu [02:12] guys, is there net installer for ubuntu ? [02:12] hi. how to change the path inside the gnome environment (not in gnome-console or xterm)? [02:12] helpme: sudo is good....... stops root damage === iirieXWir [n=aoieni@81.213.13.227] has left #ubuntu [] [02:12] Madeye: yes, but not what you think [02:12] bob2, this happened last time I installed Ubuntu, and I came in here, and some dude helped me out, but I can't remember who he was [02:12] bob2, it appears in red letters under a black background when I "ls -a" where it now is. [02:12] ubotu: tell Madeye about install [02:12] ok, let's say in another way... wich program/s can i install to make audio editing? [02:12] thesaltydog: install grub-doc [02:12] apokryphos: i dont think it is better imho...anyways lets not start a flame war..lets just chill:) === aeolist [n=aeolist@ppp094.dialup.ntua.gr] has joined #ubuntu [02:12] ok [02:12] elad`: yes, because it's a broken link [02:12] bob2, what does that mean? [02:12] helpme: if you want a windows like distro with no admin security go try Linspire........but if you make an error your up for a fresh install [02:12] ah [02:12] elad`: as I said, there's no reason to keep it [02:12] juerry, check apt-get [02:12] DuDe: how did you break it? [02:12] Testing if it's worked. [02:12] bob2: Im pretty sure theres another more easy one.. i just cant remember it... [02:12] helpme: it's pretty much objectively better (not a matter of opinion), but hey. [02:13] Linux_Galore, I remember when Linspire was Lindows [02:13] juerry: audacity [02:13] Linux_Galore, I remember when Linspire was called something I cant remember hahaha [02:13] Linux_Galore: hey i didnt mean that......windows can never match linux in security [02:13] Some guy in here helped me out, he had me do some editing of something [02:13] Lindows *cough* === tommae [n=tom_@p83.219.165.163.snwdip.snw.at] has joined #ubuntu [02:13] WebLOCH: POS Linux ?? [02:13] heh heh [02:13] i installed quake2 via apt-get..but i get jerky sound..plz help......any fixes? [02:13] Linux_Galore, yeah it was nasty, and you had to pay to be on the beta testing list === DuDe is now known as _DuDe_ [02:13] bimbery: audacity seems too bad, i'm searching something better [02:14] WebLOCH: aah I remember that, really stupid idea [02:14] quake2 is available for free? [02:14] bimbery: in windows i'm using steinberg wave lab and others [02:14] Linux_Galore, well yeah it did help cripple things for them === sQ [n=iqoahs@cm2.epsilon120.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu === toxicle [n=toxicle@60.48.182.36] has joined #ubuntu === morfeo [i=morf3o@host98-54.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [02:14] WebLOCH: I cant see any serious FOSs developer getting hung up on that one [02:15] hi, anybody know a tool to look for double mp3 files with different names [02:15] FOS? === Toma- [n=lin4me@203-59-113-254.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:15] any help plz..i get jerky incoherent sound in quake 2 which i installed via apt-get..... [02:15] Only thing I will give Linspire kudos for is NVU [02:15] Linux_Galore, yeah Nvu is okay, but its based on the old netscape code [02:15] <_DuDe_> ok, bye, be back in about 7-8 hours [02:15] hi. I don't not have any partition on my HDD, but can I install ubuntu together with my existing winxp without affecting it? thanks. === laptop [n=laptop@70-33-140-47.agstme.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:15] Linux_Galore, NVU ain't that great... [02:15] juerry: fair enough, btw have a look at what happens when you type bim [02:16] what is nvu? [02:16] Linux_Galore: the *only* thing? They have a pretty good package management system - -kept up-to-date and sorted by applications rather than packages [02:16] WebLOCH: they paid the mozilla guys for it...........though it was just a cleaned up version of Mozilla Composer [02:16] bimberi, sorry [02:16] Linux_Galore: I also hear they have jack, but it's not like I'm the authority on sound engines for Linux :) [02:16] juerry: np :) [02:16] Does anybody have any idea how i can start oo beta in hoary , i have 113 and beta installed , but i cant seem to find the binary for beta...help pls..... [02:16] bimberi, do you now some other solutions? === toxicle [n=toxicle@60.48.182.36] has joined #ubuntu [02:17] !backports [02:17] Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list. More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports === Dethlin [n=flashman@CPE-147-10-196-16.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:17] Fred its called ooffice1.9 [02:17] anyway to turn ntfs to fat32...plz? [02:17] juerry: no, just aware of audacity, others (or google) may know better :) [02:17] bimberi, many professionists use linux for audio editing, but i'm wondering how [02:17] helpme: gparted [02:17] fredforfaen: type oo[TAB] [02:17] apokryphos: it really changes ntfs to fat32! [02:18] juerry: there might be commercial packages available. Ubuntu is about Free software tho [02:18] Linux_Galore, yeah its interesting to see the natural development, I found a binary-compatible OCX that wrapped the mozilla browser so you could substitute the IE one used in apps. So you could patch Outlook Express to use the mozilla control. [02:18] hi. I don't not have any partition on my HDD, but can I install ubuntu together with my existing winxp without affecting it? thanks. === indypende [n=indypend@d83-176-67-171.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu [02:18] bimberi, uhm... i hope google will help me, but it is so stupid :p [02:18] helpme: it has the option to format an NTFS partition to a fat32 one, yes, I'm pretty sure. [02:18] apokryphos: can qtparted do that? i have qtparted installed....... [02:18] Linux_Galore done that and i just get the 00 1.1.3 binarys [02:18] helpme: yes [02:18] juerry: lol [02:18] fredforfaen: so you just downloaded the binary tarball ?? === uhLeis [n=eqiapiei@adsl-115-20-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu [02:18] anyone can help? [02:18] no i installed the debs === uhLeis is now known as jiuiieeaoa [02:19] Linux_Galore <--- === jiuiieeaoa [n=eqiapiei@adsl-115-20-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] === luckyaba [n=privolig@ip68-6-87-26.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:19] bimberi, ok, maybe i can ask a friend of mine about this [02:19] fredforfaen: querry the package and see were it install oooffice1.9 [02:19] sQ: the installer can attempt to resize the windows partition to make room for ubuntu - back up first though [02:19] Linux_Galore how so i so that ? [02:19] fredforfaen: then just ling oooffice1.9 to /usr/bin [02:19] so/do [02:19] link* === pwu1 [n=pwu1@210.213.226.60] has joined #ubuntu [02:20] bimberi: okay. thanks. so the installation most likely will not affect my other files? === luckyaba [n=privolig@ip68-6-87-26.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:20] Linux_Galore but i cant find oooffice1.9 anywhere? [02:20] i just did a updatedb and locate oooffice1.9 [02:20] nada :( [02:20] fredforfaen, ooffice2 is actually 1.9.something [02:20] fredforfaen, at least a few days ago it was [02:21] fredforfaen: then I suspect its not installed and the install failed [02:21] WebLOCH: try locate soffice === luckyaba [n=privolig@ip68-6-87-26.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:21] Linux_Galore dpkg gave me all ok .... [02:21] Linux_Galore, is that a challenge or a request? === tommae [n=tom_@p83.219.165.163.snwdip.snw.at] has left #ubuntu ["Verlassend"] [02:21] sQ: it shouldn't but don't assume - there's some more info here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning [02:22] request === doqWoiz [n=eqiapiei@adsl-115-20-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu === doqWoiz is now known as Eodeaznq === Eodeaznq [n=eqiapiei@adsl-115-20-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] === user6 [n=user6@210.213.138.65] has joined #ubuntu [02:22] hi [02:22] bimberi: thanks alot.. [02:22] windows guys dont know abt such great tools like qtparted...they think partition magic is all that there is lol [02:22] is it ok if i add a few backports repos ? [02:22] Linux_Galore, http://globalspecials.sun.com/servlet/ControllerServlet?Action=DisplayPage&Locale=en_GB&id=ProductDetailsPage&SiteID=sunstor&productID=36270000&Env=BASE [02:22] sQ: yw :) [02:22] :( [02:23] toxicle, you can add them, just be weary [02:23] i havent got soffice there either :( === vinboy [n=vinboy@60-234-137-136.bitstream.orcon.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu === luckyaba [n=privolig@ip68-6-87-26.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:23] Any font experts around.. [02:23] mae === luckyaba [n=privolig@ip68-6-87-26.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:23] I'm running ltsp and after af "hard" reboot.. all fonts look ugly. [02:23] WebLOCH: no I was talking to fredforfaen.......locate soffice........sometimes its oooffice1.9 sometimes soffice [02:23] :O SOFFICE IS NO LONGER FREE! [02:24] oh right [02:24] i found it !!!! yeeehaaaaa [02:24] WebLOCH: is ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net safe? [02:24] thanx gyes [02:24] fredforfaen: did you run locatedb with sudo === elad` [n=elad`@IGLD-80-230-97-197.inter.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [02:24] toxicle, not sure to be honest, if you are using breezy, then I would say no [02:24] Linux_Galore yeah , and you where right it isnt linked === thesaltydog [n=yoshi@host194-61.pool8023.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [02:24] linked to /usr/bin [02:24] i mean [02:25] I want to stop 127.0.0.1 from being added to my hostname list (or maybe I shouldn't?) and only have 10.0.0.138 in there. Help? === NoHope [n=silas@200-171-234-11.customer.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [02:25] bob2, the clock thing worked, thanks. [02:25] WebLOCH: i'm on hoary [02:25] fredforfaen: the openoffice package doesnt link in just in case you have a version already installed [02:25] if I use usplash I have to remove vga=791 from menu.lst How can I keep my small fonts in a console session, without getting rid of usplash? === TheLDxaUe [n=eqiapiei@adsl-115-20-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu [02:25] elad`: why do you want that? === TheLDxaUe [n=eqiapiei@adsl-115-20-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] [02:25] toxicle, yeah that should be okay but pay attention to what you download carefully [02:26] fredforfaen: O had to link oooffice1.9 in [02:26] I* [02:26] i c === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@p548D02C8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [02:26] just did it [02:26] and it works :)) [02:26] nalioth, I think that's how it should be. Am I wrong? It takes me a while to connect to IRC, and it's always hanging up on the "host" thingie. === Hoxzer [n=niko@a80-186-132-239.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [02:26] And before I added "10.0.0.138" to there, sometimes it wouldn't connect at all. [02:26] WebLOCH: what do i look for? [02:27] fredforfaen: just create a desktop icon and your done === Safari_Al [n=tr@ppp229-245.lns2.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:27] elad`, unless you use IDENT you will hang for awhile === juerry [n=gerarcon@85-18-14-12.fastres.net] has left #ubuntu ["Sto] [02:27] Linux_Galore yeah im gonna , pretty lean , thanx alot! [02:27] How do I use IDENT? [02:27] elad`: i dont think that's your problem [02:27] toxicle, couldn't tell you, i use the backports, but then again I dont care if it breaks [02:27] elad`, you would need to install an IDENTd [02:27] my webcam stop and dmesg give me this output http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2458, no one know why? [02:28] fredforfaen: edit the settings........the GUI has three different themes [02:28] elad`, it wouldnt be worth the effort, just wait the couple of seconds [02:28] Linux_Galore cool [02:28] fredforfaen: I use the "industrial" theme [02:28] WebLOCH: hahah great then :) === kataklysm [n=kataklys@h226.170.140.67.ip.alltel.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:28] indypende: if im not mistaken thats the site we use to paste things in [02:29] is there anyway to add desktop icons in xfce4? === juerry [n=gerarcon@85-18-14-12.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:29] Linux_Galore :) === wHisKy [n=vampyre@m130.net81-67-104.noos.fr] has joined #ubuntu [02:29] How do I installed identd? [02:29] toxicle, I wish you the best of luck if you continue to use them, ive had no problems so far [02:29] elad`, google it [02:29] ident2? [02:29] boxerboy29, yes.. [02:29] shabbat shalom [02:30] look the link for my output [02:30] kataklysm: cant you right click desktop and set icons that way? [02:30] my webcam stop and dmesg give me this output http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2458, no one know why? [02:30] how do i unmount c & d drives? it says device is busy [02:30] indypende: have you tried removing and reinserting the device? [02:30] indypende, hi there :p === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu [02:30] indypende: seems the driver isnt talking to the device [02:30] atha, i try now [02:30] how do i unmount C: & D: win drives? it says device is busy........ === morfeo [i=morf3o@host98-54.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu [] [02:31] helpme, just leave them [02:31] helpme, reboot [02:31] !tell helpme fuser [02:31] i have a problem installing the x-common 1.08 update in breezy [02:31] damn you ubotu [02:31] it give me an error [02:31] yeah lol........if you boot up with some webcams "plugged in" you have to unplug them and plug them in again === svizzero [n=svizzero@host86-100.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === mjr_ is now known as mjr [02:31] I installed ident2, and the wait didnt' get any shorter. Should I reboot, or was it just not the problem? [02:31] without rebooting??? anyway? === talios [n=amrk@202-74-217-142.ue.woosh.co.nz] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === morfeo [i=morf3o@host98-54.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu === toUouhg [n=eqiapiei@adsl-115-20-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu === toUouhg is now known as xuJXPe === xuJXPe [n=eqiapiei@adsl-115-20-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] [02:32] E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: overwriting `/usr/lib/X11/fonts' === morfeo [i=morf3o@host98-54.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu [] [02:32] helpme: Linux doesnt have c and d drives [02:32] elad`, maybe it was the wrong software, maybe its not running, maybe its not configured and maybe its not the problem at all [02:32] brb [02:32] helpme: linux has hda hdb etc [02:32] elad`, just google "LINUX IDENT" and learn how to use it properly that might yield the answer [02:32] Linux_Galore: yes yes i mean hda1 & hda5 [02:33] helpme: try sudo fuser -K /dev/hdb [02:33] or hda1 === Blue-Omega [i=Blue@unaffiliated/Blue-Omega] has joined #ubuntu [02:33] helpme: are you probably in a directory of such a drive? === _jEnipUR_ [n=jon@202.84.116.66] has joined #ubuntu [02:33] helpme: umount /dev/hda5 [02:33] Linux_Galore, are you trying to tell me it has a firm, stable, device basis [02:33] some ideas? [02:33] WebLOCH: ?? [02:33] it looks like if I had to use usplash I cannot set small fonts in console [02:33] Linux_Galore, it was a positive joke, didnt really work too well it would see [02:34] m* === petitohaime| [i=MTP@dyn-83-156-205-5.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #ubuntu [02:34] ?? === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@chello212186148020.chello.pl] has joined #ubuntu === minimec [n=minimec@84-74-49-170.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu === Linux_Galore peels a banana [02:34] ? [02:34] juerry: yes, same problem here [02:35] when linux boots, it whines something that /dev/sda6 is unavailable and doesnt mount it, how can i automatically mount that partition on the boot? === elad` [n=elad`@IGLD-80-230-97-197.inter.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [02:35] Knorrie, so? [02:35] elad@AM:~$ ident2 error: binding to port 113: bind(): Permission denied [02:35] dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base [02:35] Knorrie, there is nothing to do? [02:35] HiddenFly: sda is a scsi hardisk ?? or usb device [02:35] HiddenFly, you need to edit the etc/fstab [02:35] Linux_Galore: its sata drive [02:35] aaah === uCuyb [n=eqiapiei@adsl-115-20-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu [02:35] juerry: i don't know, that's why im here just like you :) [02:36] Knorrie, LOL === uCuyb [n=eqiapiei@adsl-115-20-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] [02:36] WebLOCH: ok, how? its now: /dev/sda6 /iso ext3 defaults 0 0 [02:36] for that partition [02:36] okay thats wrong haha [02:36] :D === irvin [n=irvin@203.215.115.150] has joined #ubuntu [02:36] HiddenFly: sure sda6 is correct.........its not another partition number [02:36] Knorrie, can you find somethinf with google? [02:36] juerry: see topic [02:36] what do i need to fix then [02:36] HiddenFly, ill paste a line for you [02:36] boxerboy29: u cant right click in xfce4 and make icons, no it dont work like gnome or kde.. [02:36] k thx [02:36] atha, when i disconnect the device and reconnect the dmesg don't give the error but the image is noised! [02:37] HiddenFly, /dev/sda5 /media/windata ntfs ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0 [02:37] thats what I use === verdeter_ [n=wurm@ip-83-134-3-250.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ubuntu [02:37] Knorrie, :p [02:37] Linux_Galore: well, when i do sudo mount /dev/sda6 /iso it works :) === darekp [n=darekp@bec182.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu === didemnur [n=a1_yakis@81.215.178.197] has joined #ubuntu [02:37] http://verdeter02.skyblog.com === didemnur [n=a1_yakis@81.215.178.197] has left #ubuntu [] === MrRagga [n=jonas@p54A52089.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [02:37] yea, that partition is ext3 [02:37] HiddenFly, /media/windata becomes the mount point, so make sure you create a directory for the mount point [02:37] oh right [02:37] Knorrie, in fact i disabled updates, now i'm waiting for the stable version [02:37] k [02:38] Linux_Galore, , when i disconnect the device and reconnect the dmesg don't give the error but the image is noised! [02:38] juerry: I like some adventure :) [02:38] well /iso still doesnt sound right === toxicle [n=toxicle@60.48.182.36] has joined #ubuntu [02:38] i made that /iso directory myself [02:38] verdeter_: is there a reason for why you're spamming us? [02:38] /dev/sda5 /media/blah ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 [02:38] try something like that [02:38] hi is there ncurses way to configure services? [02:38] k === Orunitia [n=Orunitia@69-172-23-123.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:38] but make sure you create the "blah" directory in "media" [02:38] i forgot the command .. [02:38] toxicle: what service? [02:38] yea [02:39] v*conf [02:39] Hidden, save it [02:39] Knorrie: all my services [02:39] sure :) [02:39] then "sudo mount -a" to remount all devices [02:39] k === FaithX [n=FaithX@202-6-145-116.ip.adam.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:39] Knorrie, yeah! [02:39] juerry: yeah what? === verdeter_ [n=wurm@ip-83-134-3-250.dsl.scarlet.be] has left #ubuntu [] === comes [n=comes@d077247.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu [02:39] hi guys === alisher [n=alex@vp173029.nt.uac64.hknet.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:40] why am I unable to install the w32codecs [02:40] vinboy: what instructions are you following? [02:40] i added the repositories [02:40] update it === pinucset [n=pinucset@197.Red-80-32-81.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:40] vinboy, they are gone now === wesley [n=Wesley@200-207-154-89.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [02:40] vinboy, no longer hosted on the repos [02:40] vinboy: which repositories, and what instructions? === luckyaba [n=privolig@ip68-6-87-26.sb.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:40] WebLOCH, is there anywhere i can get it? [02:40] how can i do for having always the packajes updated? if there is a gimp release i dont want so wait to the next ubuntu for installing it with apt-get... please help... [02:40] HI people, pelase help me with a sound card seetings pelase [02:40] toxicle: most of the configuration is editing textfiles, there are a lot of graphical tools to help you, but (sorry) i never saw curses-like tools [02:40] WebLOCH: it is, but on a different one [02:40] Oh no, X is busted??? I am trying to compile wine against it... === beyond [n=beyond@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu [02:40] apokryphos, really ? [02:40] yes [02:41] apokryphos, i followed the one in unofficial ubuntu guide website === _yasser [n=yasser@59.93.241.243] has joined #ubuntu [02:41] toxicle: but there will be some [02:41] apokryphos, *cough* do you know where? [02:41] Knorrie: yeah what is it ? [02:41] WebLOCH: well, ubuntulinux.nl repo has it; for hoary... you can download the deb [02:41] lol [02:41] FaithX: X busted? breezy updates? its fiwed not, reupdate [02:41] ok [02:41] cool [02:41] !w32codecs [02:41] w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs or breezy: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl. 64bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 [02:41] vinboy: marillat repositories === Flying_Eagle [n=f_e@pD9535490.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:41] hardcore! [02:41] ty apokryphos [02:41] Knorrie: sorry to tell you this but someone here told me and i used it it's "v**conf" [02:41] apokryphos, you know much about audio? [02:41] thanks apokryphos [02:41] I installed build-essential but I still won't compile X apps .. what am I missing? [02:41] the problem is i forgot :( [02:41] vinboy: that site is lame (the ubuntuguide one), I suggest you don't use it :). [02:41] x-dev maybe [02:41] Knorrie, yeah, adventure! [02:42] HiddenFly, any luck? === elad` [n=elad@IGLD-80-230-97-197.inter.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [02:42] juerry: LOL [02:42] apokryphos, really??? i find it very handy for newbie like me :) [02:42] how can i obtain the liblamemp3.so? [02:42] apokryphos, any good one u recommended? [02:42] vinboy: till it breaks your system for you..... === EasilyOdd [n=EO@167.7.130.79] has joined #ubuntu [02:42] lol.. is it that bad [02:42] i've installed yet the package lame with synaptic [02:42] vinboy: it will be handy and fine until your box stops functioning [02:42] vinboy: it's a bad guide, yes; /msg ubotu ubuntuguide === desti [n=desti@p5092418A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [02:42] how can i do for having always the packajes updated? if there is a gimp release i dont want so wait to the next ubuntu for installing it with apt-get... please help... [02:42] is there any other sites?? [02:42] vinboy: yes, the Wiki and the docs. [02:43] oh ok [02:43] yup [02:43] Knorrie: how to i find a file with "v*conf" [02:43] vinboy: wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation [02:43] i refer to those as well [02:43] pinucset: the answer to your question is in your question..... [02:43] i'll bookmark it [02:43] pinucset: apt-get ;) === helpme2 [n=yasser@59.93.241.93] has joined #ubuntu [02:43] but in my apt-get i dont have always the last release! :S [02:43] have all of u here ordered the ubuntu cds at shipit? or am i the lucky first one:) [02:43] WebLOCH: it mounted it ok now when i did that mount -a command [02:43] pinucset: the latest stable one, you do... [02:43] helpme2, I ordered Hoary aaaaaaaaaaages agp [02:43] when i tryto encode an mp3 file, audacity ask me for this liblamemp3.so in the usr/lib folder [02:43] ago, only got them recently [02:44] how can i do? [02:44] vinboy: if you are "new to *nix", the ubuntuguide WILL cause you pain [02:44] sorry let me rephrase this [02:44] and how can i install someone not stable, for having the last packajes? [02:44] HiddenFly, then it should mount everytime you boot now [02:44] WebLOCH: :( [02:44] how do i find a filename v*conf ? [02:44] vinboy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=357314&postcount=5 [02:44] ;) [02:44] toxicle: locate conf | egrep "v.*conf" [02:44] yea thats what i thought [02:44] juerry: liblame0 === nxv_ [n=nxv_@dsl-084-056-087-191.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:44] juerry: not sure about liblamemp3.so but liblame0 includes libmp3lame.so [02:44] alisher: no, do not advise that === Shufla [n=shufla@cgu113.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu [02:44] hi. I have a mayor problem with my wlan configuration with breezy badger. I don't no what to do. I had a debian sid installation on my laptop with wlan (working) until I installed 'Breezy Badger' yesterday (ubuntu works great with my HP). I use the same /etc/network/interfaces file, but I don't get any connection. The two adapters are in ad-hoc mode, they do 'see' each other, I deactivated WEP. I don't know what to do. The Problem is on t [02:45] toxicle: hm that shows lots of files on my system :) [02:45] alisher: you shouldn't recommend people use marillat anymore at all (debian/ubuntu vary oto much now) === XieuKeiA [n=idnieoeo@adsl-158-19-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu [02:45] atha & aftertaf, i've installed liblame0 too but i can't find liblamemp3.so === XieuKeiA [n=idnieoeo@adsl-158-19-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] [02:45] Knorrie: yes it does [02:45] do i need to umpunt partitions before manipulating them? [02:45] minimec, the problem is you are using breezy [02:45] minimec, breezy is buggy, as it is unfinished [02:45] atha & aftertaf, maybe i should reboot? === XieuKeiA [n=idnieoeo@adsl-158-19-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu === helpme2 [n=yasser@59.93.241.93] has joined #ubuntu [02:45] apokryphos: ok [02:45] never reboot linux ;) === XieuKeiA [n=idnieoeo@adsl-158-19-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] [02:46] juerry: i dont know then..... === ubuntu [n=ubuntu@c-66-177-250-204.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === macintos1r [n=gm@72.cust3.sa.dsl.ozemail.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [02:46] man, at least i google for hours before coming here to ask for help [02:46] aftertaf, :( [02:46] HI, people.. i'tryying to intall skype [02:46] I get the feeling some of you are just piling on the questions [02:46] but is almost impossible [02:46] thanks alisher [02:46] wesley, read the user documentation [02:46] yep [02:46] juerry: audacity recommends ladspa-plugin [02:46] try that. [02:46] WebLOCH: yeah, this place shouldn't be a substitute for wiki/google [02:47] but even know.. i can do it [02:47] apokryphos, I think there should be a separate channel for breezy [02:47] WebLOCH: :) agree too [02:47] I google for hours and then I come in here and ask questions I never google about [02:47] and everyone talking about it here should be autokicked [02:47] Where is here anywhere? [02:47] WebLOCH: Hmm.. I am not sure. I can use the network with eth0 ethernet. Maybe a problem of iwconfig... [02:47] minimec, either way it relates to a problem with breezy [02:47] or it would be working right now [02:47] toxicle: i'm sorry, perhaps someone else can help you, i never used cnursus based configuration, reading man pages and editing text files is more flexible [02:47] is the Cerkinfo Debian Repository any good? [02:47] FaithX: >>> #philosopical [02:47] i found a w32codecs there [02:48] i'm using the gnome [02:48] vinboy: you can get w32 from mplayer website [02:48] Knorrie: ok then ... which file to edit ? [02:48] oh really [02:48] Im going to have to start my project soon [02:48] thx aftertaf [02:48] WebLOCH, so, i'm using the gnome... [02:48] apokryphos, you know much about audio you fiend? [02:48] wesley, the gnome gnoes [02:49] WebLOCH: I'll try a downgrade of the wireless-tools. Let's see what that brings. THX [02:49] WebLOCH: quite ignorant there, unfortunately. [02:49] aftertaf, what should i do then [02:49] apokryphos, fair play, someone helped me yesterday and had it cleaned up in minutes [02:49] I just cant remember who [02:49] juerry: apt-get install ladspa-plugin === uZXiaoTj [n=idnieoeo@adsl-158-19-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu === RiuJoe [n=lolhuiie@85.96.99.18] has joined #ubuntu === RiuJoe [n=lolhuiie@85.96.99.18] has left #ubuntu [] === uZXiaoTj [n=idnieoeo@adsl-158-19-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] [02:49] Knorrie: i installed snort and it was working fine [02:50] can procmail make copies for incoming mails to another mailaddress? [02:50] Knorrie: after reboot .. it does not startup [02:50] WebLOCH: there's a debugging sound problems thread -- did you check that? === silwol [n=silwol@212-88-191-36.ADSL.ycn.com] has joined #ubuntu [02:50] is it safe to restart X while having a not fully upgraded x-common? [02:50] so why did they remove the w32codecs from the normal server? [02:50] apokryphos, yup [02:50] vinboy: legal reasons [02:50] WebLOCH: s/thread/wik entry/ [02:50] apokryphos, ive read everything i can find online [02:50] oh ic [02:50] toxicle: wat does `/etc/init.d/snort start` say? === QoetiiCiM [n=lolhuiie@85.96.99.18] has joined #ubuntu [02:50] WebLOCH: sometimes you just need the guru :) === QoetiiCiM [n=lolhuiie@85.96.99.18] has left #ubuntu [] [02:51] aftertaf, so there will be no more w32codecs release in future? [02:51] aftertaf, tx [02:51] vinboy: no idea...... [02:51] vinboy: it's not legal, but people will pretty much always produce [02:51] *produce it [02:51] Knorrie: there is no file named snort ... that's why it's not starting up [02:51] yea [02:51] well i think i better keep a copy then [02:51] apokryphos, tell me about it :( [02:51] vinboy: convert everything to ogg ;) [02:51] I've just found the funniest link of my life [02:51] :) [02:52] WebLOCH: share ;) [02:52] everyone go to offtopic and read it [02:52] ahh okay.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=8214536142/ [02:52] Knorrie: thats /etc/rc.d/initd/ === Shufla [n=shufla@cgu113.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [02:52] does anyone else have problems with updating x-common? [02:52] did u guys know someone was selling kidney on ebay [02:52] vinboy: how much ? ehe [02:52] I remember someone selling "nothing" [02:52] vinboy: for consumption or for filterin? [02:52] ebay talk in #ubuntu-offtopic, please [02:53] my fault, sorry [02:53] toxicle: erm? /etc/rc.d/init.d? [02:53] that link is pretty funny tho [02:53] toxicle: are you running ubuntu? === Wewcf [n=idnieoeo@adsl-158-19-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu [02:53] Knorrie: yes i am hoary [02:54] it was up to about NZ$1.3 million === Wewcf is now known as uIJDwy === uIJDwy [n=idnieoeo@adsl-158-19-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] [02:54] then ebay took it off.. coz it is against the law to sell human organs [02:54] Knorrie: there is no /etc/initd === Nikopol [n=Nikopol@i-195-137-15-67.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:54] toxicle: /etc/init.d [02:54] the guy selling it to make money to support his family in the disaster [02:54] pretty sad [02:54] if you have no /etc/init.d nothing will start when you boot :D [02:54] HeavyD: checking..... [02:54] Knorrie: I should slap myself === uIJDwy [n=idnieoeo@adsl-158-19-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu [02:55] Knorrie: ok i see the file ... === uIJDwy [n=idnieoeo@adsl-158-19-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] === Knorrie_ slaps toxicle with a directory index [02:55] thanks [02:55] np [02:55] i needed that :) [02:55] :P === ToNhO [n=Tonho@201.14.19.23] has joined #ubuntu === da_bon_bon [n=rohan@59.182.20.114] has joined #ubuntu [02:55] I had a little fit this morning [02:55] I installed apache [02:55] sorry was at "that" dir and wrongly assumed [02:55] and then for some reason thought that it had hosted my entire drive === uiaxeii [n=idnieoeo@adsl-158-19-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu [02:56] because I kept attempting to reach "localhost" in opera, which lead me back to the filesystem === uiaxeii [n=idnieoeo@adsl-158-19-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] [02:56] took about 15 minutes to figure out it had nothing to do with apache [02:56] how do i restart all services without rebooting ? [02:57] or more like a service [02:57] toxicle: /etc/init.d/snort restart [02:57] Knorrie: sweet [02:57] Knorrie: is this the dir i place startup scripts? [02:57] HeavyD: nope, i just have gnome-screensaver still hanging around... [02:57] Knorrie: what should i man ? [02:58] toxicle: sort of..... [02:58] to write startup scripts [02:58] !cli [02:58] methinks cli is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ [02:58] debian/ubuntu place startup scripts in /etc/init.d/ and the dirs /etc/rcX.d have symlinks to it for each runlevel [02:58] ^^ toxicle for scripting, then init.d for startup === JaeeJeai [n=idnieoeo@adsl-158-19-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu [02:58] toxicle: there's a file called skeleton, which you could check out === JaeeJeai [n=idnieoeo@adsl-158-19-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] === ctp6360 [n=ctp6360@r220-101-77-180.cpe.unwired.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === hyphenated [n=cgilmour@202.72.195.36] has joined #ubuntu [02:59] atha: really, what does it do? what is it? === aftertaf interested in learning too [02:59] example initscript === DDoeQa [n=idnieoeo@adsl-158-19-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has joined #ubuntu [02:59] oki === vpalle [n=vpalle@daimi-pat.daimi.au.dk] has joined #ubuntu === DDoeQa [n=idnieoeo@adsl-158-19-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma] has left #ubuntu [] [02:59] atha: yeah whgat does skeleton do ? [02:59] shit! i cant login to shipit [03:00] always sends me launchap validation === ToNhO [n=Tonho@201.14.19.23] has left #ubuntu ["Saindoo"] [03:00] and when i click on the launchpad link, always, page not found [03:00] any one else experiencing the same ? === jamey3 [n=jamey3@82-37-128-102.cable.ubr01.telf.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [03:00] god wdm is *ugly* === xTina [n=xTina@vpn2-dynip176.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de] has joined #ubuntu [03:01] toxicle: its an example initscript. === bigbootay [n=bigboota@CPE0004e28a9289-CM000a73a14ed4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:01] whats wdm, jamey3 ? === curious_kitty [n=kat@ppp71.dial-up.uoc.gr] has joined #ubuntu [03:01] is there a enlightement packages ? [03:01] aftertaf: ok thanks [03:01] Urrrm [03:01] toxicle: enlightenment is available [03:02] da_bon_bon, WINGS display manager, similar to gdm (GNOME display manager) [03:02] whats the ''right way'' to install the ubuntu kernel source tree with all the patches etc. just like that used to build the ubuntu linux kernel source ? [03:02] nalioth: apt-get install *** ? [03:02] used to manage logging in, i.e. the "welcome" screen... jeez wdm is one ugly bastard, gdm is lovely [03:02] jamey3: ok [03:02] nalioth: I wanna use the latest d17 === sucho [n=petko@mail.gympoh.edu.sk] has joined #ubuntu [03:02] is there a meta package for building X apps? [03:02] da_bon_bon, i just did a server install of ubuntu and then added: x-window-system-core, xfce4, wdm, mozilla-firefox, synaptic [03:03] jamey3: you like minimal installs, it seems ? [03:03] :) [03:03] why shouldn't i, don't you? === gerarcone [n=gerarcon@85-18-14-12.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu === victoria [n=victoria@c213-89-231-128.cm-upc.chello.se] has joined #ubuntu === knewt [n=jmb@home.pimb.org] has joined #ubuntu === lukewarm is now known as lw-afk [03:04] anyone know the name of the enlightement package ? [03:04] ah. i was going to ask how stable breezy is right now, but then i read the topic :/ === _tester_ [n=yz@216.238.203.97] has joined #ubuntu [03:05] Why can't I send files in GAIM, but can receive them? [03:05] toxicle: "enlightenment" === knewt [n=jmb@home.pimb.org] has left #ubuntu [] [03:05] elad`, thats the nature of GAIM, MSN and the interconnecting of the networks and protocols, [03:05] I can't even try - I don't even get to the point where the firewall is preventing me from doing so or anything, the option is disabled. === HiddenWolf [n=HiddenWo@136.251.dynamic.phpg.net] has joined #ubuntu === toxicle slaps himself again [03:06] i've installed a lot of plugins, but totem still doesn't work. sometimes it works well, sometimes it stops for an error prior to play a video file, sometimes it play the audio but not the video. i'm using VLC and all is going well [03:06] WebLOCH, but someone else, using GAIM, was able to send me a file. [03:06] there is a way to fix the problem or make VLC the default player [03:06] elad`, yeah thats my point, its not stable and its not predictable [03:06] elad`, my ex-housemate i cant send to or receive from, i dont have problems with anyone else, nor does he [03:07] Well, I'd like it to, unstably and unpredictably, let me send files, the way it let that other guy. [03:07] elad`, well why don't you fix it then. === nxv_ [n=nxv_@dsl-084-056-087-191.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:07] Maybe I will! [03:07] good [03:07] :P [03:07] problem solved [03:08] ill inform bugzilla they can remove gaim, you are taking care of it === Whistler [n=admin@85.206.161.186] has joined #ubuntu [03:08] Please, does anybody know what the 'right' way to install the ubuntu kernel source-tree, with all its patches etc. done ? [03:08] hi, i am looking for the network-admin command but it seems to be missing in kubuntu breezy preview, any hints? i asked #kubuntu already, but they couldn't answer [03:08] WebLOCH, give me 90 minutes though, as I want to have lunch first. [03:08] elad`, no problem hearty last meal and all that [03:08] is breeze`s x broken? [03:08] breeze is broken [03:08] so i shouldnt update now? [03:08] . [03:09] no [03:09] 20days it goes stable [03:09] wait till then [03:09] how can i encode .mpeg starting from a DivX avi? [03:10] my target is burning DVD's [03:10] i am allready in breezy [03:10] DVDs, sorry [03:10] but i ask about update === Toma- [n=lin4me@203-59-113-254.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:11] Whistler: i just updated, only x-common won't install completely, im now going to restart X to see what happens :> === Seveas [n=seveas@ksl403-uva-132.wireless.uva.nl] has joined #ubuntu === x[BrB] x [n=patrick@203.213.221.150] has joined #ubuntu [03:13] WebLOCH, OK, I've solved the problem, you can send files to your ex-housemate now. === nxv_ [n=nxv_@dsl-084-056-087-191.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:13] how can i remove programs like games in abuntu?? === da_bon_bon [n=rohan@unaffiliated/dabonbon/x-000000001] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:14] x[BrB] x, launch the Synaptic Package Manager application [03:14] x[Br: remove the pacakges you dont want through apt-get or 'synaptic' === twibbler [n=twibbler@dsl-80-41-121-205.access.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu === mon [n=mon@co149259-a.almel1.ov.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu [03:15] ok === samot [n=tomas@c-d497e253.023-2115-73746f1.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [03:15] hi. why does "gedit *.java" only open 1 .java file instead of everyone in that dir? is this a bug? [03:16] How do I adjust the mouse sensitivity in Ubuntu (KDE)? Been looking everywhere but can only find the mouse acceleration setting [03:17] mon, works fine here :| [03:17] mon: You don't put any of those quotes on your command line, do you? === din [n=din@24.144.40.40] has joined #ubuntu === bwlang [n=bwlang@bb-66-55-211-238.gwi.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:18] Whistler: I don't know what's broken exactly, but everything seems to work [03:18] k [03:19] What's busted about X bob2 ? [03:20] Seveas: its repaired again.... dist-upgrade wanted to remove 55 X packages this midday ;) === Echelon-H [n=echelon@DSL217-132-180-32.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [03:20] ah ok [03:20] I just dist-upgraded and nothing weird happened :) [03:20] samot, fire up "kcontrol"->"peripherials"->"mouse"->"extended" [03:20] what is the command to delete dir? [03:20] Whistler: you can update again, it has been fixed [03:20] Echelon-H: rm -rf [03:20] Echelon-H, rm -rf [03:20] use with caution when root ;) [03:21] yea [03:21] Always use with caution :-) [03:21] it will totally let you do rm -rf / [03:21] ok thx [03:21] rm -rf ./ and rm -rf / are so close together [03:21] Flying_Eagle: I don't have any "Extended" tab, just "Advanced", and I can only set the acceleration there, not the sensitivity [03:21] thanks === x[BrB] x [n=patrick@203.213.221.150] has joined #ubuntu [03:21] webLOCH: any joy on sound yet ?... [03:22] samot, acceleration == sensibility [03:22] shawarma: no i dont :) [03:22] Seveas: it has worked here too, but now it doesn't anymore. don't have a clue why... [03:22] mon: Heh, ok. [03:22] and right, i meant "advanced", a problem of not using english kde-version :) === ranyzvra1y [n=ranyzvra@85-135-130-93.adsl.slovanet.sk] has joined #ubuntu === Jz3 [n=jze@a84-231-30-102.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [03:22] theres an error when i launch my synaptic package manager [03:23] Flying_Eagle: no, it's not the same, but even if it was, I've already set it to as low as possible and I want lower [03:23] x[BrB] x: do sudo apt-get update first..... [03:23] might go away then [03:23] mon, check whether there actually are more .java files ;) [03:23] samot, kdes "acceleration" is at least the same as windows "sensibility" === seatouch [i=Truth@202.21.184.138] has joined #ubuntu [03:24] Seveas: there are :) [03:24] Seveas: as i said. it has worked before (maybe warty?) but now it just opens 1 file === spola [n=sstrfstr@dD5775F78.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu [03:25] thanks [03:25] Hey... I'm trying to update mozilla but when I run update it gives me error which says.. [03:25] E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/var/lib/mozilla-firefox/extensions.d/00classic', which is also in package firefox [03:25] E: /var/cache/apt/archives/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.7-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libmozgnome.so', which is also in package firefox-gnome-support === Whistler Relloging to GNOME [03:25] ok all... weekend is here, and a good one to all ;) and to those in rita's path, hang in there and good luck....... [03:25] Jz3, do NOT paste in here... file a bug instead :) [03:25] Jz3: in the future please use a pastebin [03:26] ok [03:26] Seveas: gedit file1 && gedit file2 does work however === xshell [n=nix@ce.sbb.co.yu] has joined #ubuntu [03:26] Jz3: or #flood [03:26] heyas [03:26] That isn't very long text so... === xshell [n=nix@ce.sbb.co.yu] has left #ubuntu [] [03:26] Jz3: rules is rul3z! [03:26] yes yes... I will use pastebin next time [03:26] anyone know what I could do to troubleshoot a box that is having trouble starting grub? I ran an ubuntu install, and everything went fine, but then when I rebooted the box it locked up loading grub. I was thinking there might be something cool on the liveCD I could try to run some tests, but I'm not sure what to use [03:27] But you have any idea why it gives error? [03:27] jroes: what hardware? [03:27] extremely old box - has 128mb ram, celeron 366... [03:27] Jz3: bad scripting on the packagers part [03:27] 4.3gb fujitsu ide hd [03:28] jroes: what exactly does it do? [03:28] nalioth: Am I able tofix it somehow? [03:28] nalioth whre can i get summary of commands for ubundu? [03:28] x[BrB] x: i dont understand. what kind of commands? [03:28] has anyone ever heard of a program that allows for encrypted phonecalls (well with pc's not phones)? [03:28] after the install, I took the CD out and rebooted, and when it starts it says "Loading GRUB Stage 1" something like that [03:28] and then it freezes [03:28] jroes: i recommend trying lilo instead... it's just not worht the effort to make grub work === kairu0 [n=steve@YahooBB219201195046.bbtec.net] has joined #ubuntu === xerxas [n=xerxas@35.107.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:29] re-run the config and try using lilo? ok [03:29] jroes: yes, lilo is easier. [03:29] nalioth commands that we are entering at the terminal [03:29] Is there anybody here yet who can help resolve a sound card problem... which has been bugging me for days and which involves the sound device being there but not being found by alsa .. [03:29] it's just weird... I used all the defaults [03:29] and I've never had a problem with it before [03:29] but, this -is- completely different hardware [03:29] thanks guys [03:29] jroes: you shouldnt have to run thru the whole install, just 'esc' out of the current question (after you choose language/kb) [03:29] I'll try ti out [03:29] jroes: and go to the 'install bootloader' === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-83-29.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:30] anyone know why after upgrade to bereezy I lose my keyboard setup ? [03:30] twibbler, what is your sound chipset? === x4m [n=max@63-157.242.81.adsl.skynet.be] has joined #ubuntu [03:30] nalioth: oh, ok... after it installs lilo just reboot without going through the rest of the steps? === JustSteve [n=shadesof@ppp-69-221-17-182.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu === xerxas_ [n=xerxas@35.107.98-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:30] kairu0: it is a sis5513 i believe ... running a realtek on board ac97 sound card .... [03:30] i admire you guys its seems you know everything :) [03:31] everything except howto party :O [03:31] i hope i can be a support some other time === MacVegie [n=MacVegie@c220-237-154-176.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:31] jroes: your system is already installed [03:32] twibbler, i have a ac97 chipset and it required an upgrade to alsa 1.09. are you on hoary or breezy? [03:32] x[BrB] x: look in /usr/bin, /bin, /usr/local/bin, /usr/sbin [03:32] kairu0: im on hoary but intend to go to breezy when it is out ... === shodan_ [n=shodan@p549423C1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [03:33] kairu0: also tried to recompile alsa etc with no luck ... [03:33] hey i'm getting an odd error after installing breezy via cd, "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base" could this have something to do with me installing the latest daily build rather than the pre-release? === blacklegionar_ [n=blackleg@p5487CB5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === bluesceada [n=itsjustm@unaffiliated/bluesceada] has joined #ubuntu [03:33] JustSteve: see topic [03:34] doh, sorry === blacklegionar__ [n=blackleg@p5487CB5E.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu === tyoung [n=tyoung@70.246.97.140] has joined #ubuntu === hou5ton [n=hou5ton@n14-99-152-206.tranquility.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:35] so i suppose that is a "crazy thing Synaptic is trying to do and i can prolly just delete that .deb then [03:35] JustSteve: I'm working on my system with not-fully-upgraded x-common but i have no probs [03:35] twibbler, what do you mean no luck? === mode/#ubuntu [+o Seveas] by ChanServ [03:36] yeah i don't have issues either Knorrie_ === ..[topic/#ubuntu:Seveas] : Official Ubuntu Help channel | Documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation | Use paste.ubuntulinux.nl for pasting | Channel logs: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ | General chatter: #ubuntu-offtopic | Found a bug? report it: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ | Upgrading to breezy? http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes [03:36] JustSteve: seems it's fixed now :P [03:36] kairu0: it wont recompile ..... keeps getting loads of errors ..... [03:36] i guess so [03:36] i'm waiting for my mirror to update with the x-common package [03:36] Seveas: hey ... i put breezy on my lappy === smott [i=dv@193.77.153.149] has left #ubuntu [] [03:36] Knorrie, I read a workaround for that [03:37] Seveas: remember ... we talked about it yesterday a little bit [03:37] twibbler, i dont think theres another way around it, so tell me what your errors are [03:38] what mysql version and php version does breezy have? [03:38] on the cupsysd web interface, i can't authorize myself i.e. it doesn't accept my username/password. how can i get it to work? === din is now known as dongo [03:38] Nikopol: where? wat? [03:38] how can i check how much space do i still have on my hdd? [03:38] df === Whistler [n=admin@85.206.161.186] has joined #ubuntu [03:38] sorry x-common Knorrie [03:38] !info mysql breezy [03:38] Knorrie_, you got it sorted? [03:38] x[BrB] x, start a terminal window and type "df -h" === chorton [n=chorton@pcp0010702372pcs.manass01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:39] Belutz: what are the package names? === dongo is now known as din [03:39] kairu0: I have downloaded the new alsa source from the realtek site .... installed the linux source ..... run ./config with the correct directory but fails to fin version.h ... so find a copy of version.h copy into required directory then ./config seems to work ... then make fails with so many divide by zero .. files not found erros difficult to follow ... [03:39] on the cupsysd web interface, i can't authorize myself i.e. it doesn't accept my username/password. how can i get it to work? [03:39] nalioth: for mysql, the mysql-server, for php i expected php5 to be available in breezy [03:39] Knorrie_, apt-get remove x-window-system-core xfonts-base xfonts-scalable xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi [03:39] apt-get upgrade [03:39] apt-get install x-window-system-core xfonts-base xfonts-scalable xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi [03:39] x[BrB] x: install 'discus' for a neat display of disk space [03:40] !info mysql-server breezy [03:40] Knorrie_, does the trick it seems [03:40] mysql-server: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.0.24-10ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 3471 kB, Installed size: 8796 kB === elad` [n=elad@IGLD-80-230-97-197.inter.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [03:40] jamey3: the cupsys web interface is disabled under ubuntu by default ... [03:40] Belutz: your turn [03:40] twibbler, well I'm running XFCE.. so how can I add my printer? [03:40] jamey3: system -> admin -> printing ... [03:40] jamey3: /usr/share/doc/cupsys/README.Debian.gz, under "Important security notes" [03:41] Nikopol: ok, cool, but sounds rather heavy [03:41] twibbler, i don't have a system menu, this is xfce [03:41] !info php5 breezy [03:41] php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (meta-package)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 20 kB [03:41] pitti, thanks i'll check it out [03:41] <[Wiebel] > hmmz [03:41] Knorrie_, true - it works fine but you might as well wait for the update to percolate through [03:41] !info MadWifi breezy [03:41] <[Wiebel] > seems that my synaptics driver borkes in breezy [03:41] <[Wiebel] > After starting X it stops === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu [03:41] twibbler, in order to install that, you'll need gcc, linux-headers, libasound-dev (as many as I remember). check if you have these 3 [03:41] <[Wiebel] > DeviceOff caled [03:41] <[Wiebel] > called [03:41] great!! thanks nalioth, but i expected breezy will provide mysql 4.1.x [03:41] !info madwifi breezy [03:41] Nikopol: yeah, I'll do that, because I don't have problems now === |TaBuT|KeFeN|MeZ [n=asena@81.215.245.3] has joined #ubuntu === |TaBuT|KeFeN|MeZ [n=asena@81.215.245.3] has left #ubuntu [] [03:42] samot, "find ~/.kde -type f -name "*rc" -exec egrep -i accel '{}' \; -exec echo '{}' \;" will give you the file where you can edit the sensitivity manually [03:42] Nikopol: tnx [03:42] jamey3: but using gnome-cups-manager is really prefered [03:42] Knorrie_, np :) [03:42] twibbler: install "build-essential" to get compiling basics. you'll still need linux-headers, and libasound-dev and maybe more === Cicekci____06 [n=crab2004@81.215.245.3] has joined #ubuntu === Cicekci____06 is now known as Weiiy [03:42] <[Wiebel] > anyone running breezy ran into the same issue? === planadecU [i=pdux2@62.57.7.250] has joined #ubuntu [03:42] Knorrie_, actually they seem to have hit the servers as I speak :) [03:42] hi === Weiiy [n=crab2004@81.215.245.3] has left #ubuntu [] [03:43] i just installed ubuntu lite and i try to login as root but i don't know the password, anyone does ? === kitsch [n=jin@84-217-24-178.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:43] pitti, thanks that's exactly what I needed to know :) [03:43] planadecU, by default the root account is disabled [03:43] how do i set it up ? [03:44] i try "sudo passwd root" [03:44] but nothing [03:44] read this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo [03:44] i know how to do it with ubuntu not with the lite version [03:44] kairu0: nalioth: just installing now ..... === stevee [n=stevee@82-41-77-3.cable.ubr10.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === cob [n=cob@82.248.179.153] has joined #ubuntu [03:46] jamey3 its says nothing about ubuntu LITE [03:46] Flying_Eagle: thanks! I'll have a look === iet [n=asena@81.215.245.3] has joined #ubuntu === iet is now known as ZurnaNet3191 === ZurnaNet3191 [n=asena@81.215.245.3] has left #ubuntu [] [03:46] Nikopol, i'm still getting the same error about overwriting [03:46] JustSteve, which is? [03:46] Nikopol: which mirror are you on? :) [03:47] the UK ones I think [03:47] just checking === LosComet [i=LosComet@222.175.192.143] has joined #ubuntu [03:47] planadecU, what happens when you run "sudo passwd root"? [03:47] gb.archive.ubuntu.com [03:47] my synaptic package mnager has still an error :( [03:48] what is the error? [03:48] thought you just run "sudo passwd" [03:48] just a sec [03:48] np :d [03:48] - stat (2 No such file or directory) [03:48] Nikopol: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base [03:48] Nikopol "E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base" [03:49] yeah - maybe I sidestepped the problem with the uninstall reinstall thing [03:49] dpkg --force-overwrite -i file.deb === hourglass [i=hourglas@61.9.117.71] has joined #ubuntu [03:49] try that , force the .deb [03:49] I have just installed Breezy on my laptop ... and a few months ago when doing Hoary, followed the adding repositories guidelines on the Unofficial Ubuntu site. Is there something like that for Breezy? [03:49] W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 [03:49] hi ...to everyone..jus got started on ubuntu.... [03:50] hourglass: welcome :) [03:50] deFrysk: I'll try [03:50] welcome :) [03:50] apt-get remove x-window-system-core xfonts-base xfonts-scalable xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi [03:50] apt-get upgrade [03:50] apt-get install x-window-system-core xfonts-base xfonts-scalable xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi [03:50] hope ill learn from you [03:50] That was what I did and it sorted the problem out and it's all updating fine nwo === jbrouhard [n=jbrouhar@207.192.215.62] has joined #ubuntu [03:51] kairu0: ok have everything inc alsa source ... from repositories .... do I need to get the alsa source from elswhere to compile ?. [03:51] can i connect to the internet by using an internal modem? [03:51] the apt-getupgrade lets you install x-common then you can reinstall what you uninstalled in the first command === Oculus [n=bastian@p548D25E3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu === spirit_gdl [n=spirit@dsl-084-059-001-048.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu === jbrouhard [n=jbrouhar@207.192.215.62] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === Koeoi [i=cnet@194.102.155.20] has joined #ubuntu === Koeoi [i=cnet@194.102.155.20] has left #ubuntu [] [03:52] twibbler: why u compiling alsa? === batoms [n=Brett@dpc6744223136.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu [03:52] JustSteve, you tried that trick? [03:52] Nikopol, thanks trying that now as well [03:52] Toma: sound card not found .... why know of a quicker solution ? .... [03:52] what sound card? [03:52] i still can't get my win key to work === Nwood [i=st@dyn3-82-128-184-136.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:53] yay no more funky update icon [03:53] twibbler, got a build in soundcard perhaps and use anotherone ? [03:53] Nikopol, thanks a lot :-) [03:53] JustSteve, cool [03:53] np [03:53] deFrysk: yep got a built in sound card ..... not got another one to use ... [03:53] my synaptic package mnager has still an error :( [03:53] JustSteve, it worked then? [03:54] also, compiling alsa wont solve anything. itll piss u off plenty, but wont install your card [03:54] using the the default settings my win keys maps to 0x73 in the keyboard shortcuts [03:54] twibbler, oke [03:54] twibbler: do u know what chipset it uses? === LosComet [i=LosComet@222.175.192.143] has left #ubuntu [] [03:54] i've alrady updated === maradong [n=bhentges@vodsl-4461.vo.lu] has joined #ubuntu [03:54] Toma: sis5513 ac97 .... [03:54] ive got one of them [03:54] x[BrB] x: if you are using breezy, problems will happen often until it finals [03:54] Nikopol seems to, no angry red icon from the update manager [03:54] twibbler, asrock mobo ? [03:55] JustSteve, sound good ;) [03:55] deFrysk: ? sorry dont undertsand ... [03:55] and apt-get is running fine as well [03:55] x[BrB] x, your sourced update with no trouble? [03:55] nalioth ok.. so how can i remove some program?? [03:55] twibbler: is it turnd on in the bios? [03:55] the motherboard, is it an asrock ? [03:55] Nikopol: I did your workaround too [03:55] Nikopol: seems to work fine [03:55] Toma: yes ...... [03:55] x[BrB] x: using synaptic/kynaptic [03:55] Knorrie_, not mine tho - was posted on ubuntuforums === chavo [n=chavo@94.sub-70-196-79.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu === leonel [n=leonel@dsl-201-129-167-155.prod-infinitum.com.mx] has joined #ubuntu [03:55] Toma: or at least I think so according to my knowledge of bios ... [03:55] but glad to see it works for you too :) [03:56] yeah [03:56] twibbler: what ubuntu u using? [03:56] so back to work :) [03:56] coffee!! [03:56] Toma: Hoary ...... [03:56] i cant install my skye [03:56] Knorrie, what is it , coffee or work ? [03:56] will be going to breezy 13th oct ... [03:56] deFrysk: both at the same time [03:56] twibbler, some souncards do not work on hoary but work fine on breezy [03:57] deFrysk: no I'm not a workaholic ;) [03:57] Knorrie, lucky you ;) === ezal__^^ [n=crab2004@81.215.245.3] has joined #ubuntu [03:57] i cant use synaptic.. theres an error === ezal__^^ [n=crab2004@81.215.245.3] has left #ubuntu [] [03:57] deFrysk: tried breezy live cd and still nothing .... === Nikopol [n=Nikopol@i-195-137-15-67.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu [03:57] nalioth W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Preview i386 (20050908) breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Preview%20i386%20(20050908)_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) [03:57] twibbler, If its a sec hand pc I would have a lookat the bios and check if the onboard sound is enabled [03:58] Whats the big difference between Hoary and Breezy that makes things not work, or need different install methods?? [03:58] defrysk: Nope not second hand .... switched from win xp and sound was fine ... [03:58] twibbler, I would even check that if it is a new one [03:58] x[BrB] x: do you know how to edit your sources.list? [03:58] thats the first good breezy question ive heard all day [03:58] and night === sjj [n=sjj@adsl-1-046.QLD.dft.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [03:58] nalioth nope :( [03:58] What's the official ubuntu backports URL? backports.ubuntuforums.org appears to be down for me. [03:58] twibbler: try modprobe snd_intel8x0 && modprobe snd_ac97_codec [03:59] Haha, I suppose it is [03:59] Toma: done first one no result will try second one now .... === BuzW [n=BuzW@w034.z064003218.dfw-tx.dsl.cnc.net] has joined #ubuntu === LinuxJones [n=willy@blk-222-89-108.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu [03:59] it wont help [03:59] x[BrB] x, that's the CD it's looking for I think [03:59] the audio device isnt there [04:00] x[BrB] x: open a terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" and put a # in front of your top line starting with deb cdrom [04:00] twibbler, try this from command line "aplay -l" and paste output here [04:00] Toma: no results back from either ... [04:00] nikopol my cd is inserted on my cdrom [04:00] And if it is down, can anyone tell me the correct sources.list for backports? === larsrohdin [n=lars@ad-f-216.finet.se] has joined #ubuntu [04:00] well you can get all the files from the internet x[BrB] x [04:00] twibbler, no results back means the modules are added [04:00] x[BrB] x: you are not using the network to install? [04:00] WebLOCH no soundcards found ... [04:01] x[BrB] x, you on dial-up [04:01] nalioth nope [04:01] Hi, is there anything you can do to make filetransfers with GAIM go faster? Using the msn protocol... === statiik [n=statiik@craiggers.rh.rit.edu] has joined #ubuntu [04:01] is alsaconf in ubuntu ? [04:01] larsrohdin, compress and recompress files === arkais_gteando is now known as arkais [04:01] x[BrB] x: then you'll need a newer breezy image then [04:01] deFrysk: this is the problem... I have been through all settings files configurations etc all semm good, cannot find a reason the sound card is not found .... [04:01] alsaconf conflists with glib or some crap. or so they say [04:01] WebLOCH, ok... but thats not really what I meant [04:01] Nothing else? === SFeieos [i=cnet@194.102.155.20] has joined #ubuntu === SFeieos is now known as ohiONcoo [04:02] x[BrB] x, nalioth , or use the internet to install the updates - how fast is your connection x[BrB] x ? === ohiONcoo is now known as ishxS [04:02] do the win keys work for anyone else or is it just me === ishxS [i=cnet@194.102.155.20] has left #ubuntu [] [04:02] twibbler: turn it off in the bios, reboot into ubuntu. then reboot again and enable the sound card then go into ubuntu? might work... [04:02] batoms, works fine for me === salkin [n=salkin@c-24-99-70-56.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === autrata [n=matthias@200.181.91.73] has joined #ubuntu [04:02] theres no error enymore nalioth [04:02] batoms, you can set them to work in System preference === patata_fregida [i=pdux2@62.57.7.250] has joined #ubuntu === Raskall-mob [n=rolfas@g-001.osl255.netcom.no] has joined #ubuntu [04:02] twibbler: which udev version do you have? [04:03] my keyboard doesnt work in console mode, some keys are swaped, how do i change it to spanish (es) keyboard ? === Digis [n=digis@85.206.161.190] has joined #ubuntu [04:03] gphpedit is acting really weird, when i type text it garbles everything around [04:03] Anyone here use network-manager to manage wireless connections? [04:03] twibbler, check the bios plug and play os should be disabled onboard sound should be enabled [04:03] greetings everyone === Sandervanvliet [n=sanderva@ip51ccf0d1.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:03] or does it handle audio devices at all [04:03] deFrysk: bios plug and play enabled sound enabled .... === florian [n=florian@dsl-082-083-238-159.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu === wolverian [i=foobar@YYYCMXXVI.dsl.saunalahti.fi] has joined #ubuntu [04:03] atha: how do I check which version ... [04:03] twibbler, disable plug and play os [04:04] perhaps it's something with that x-common fonts stuff, let's restart X : [04:04] twibbler: dpkg -l udev|grep ^ii === chorton [n=chorton@pcp0010702372pcs.manass01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === Oculus is now known as OculusAquilae [04:04] Nikopol: that doesn't work for me [04:04] deFrysk: ok .... going to disable plug and play and sound ... rebooot .. then enable sound ... [04:04] wrong version caused at least some other device problems lately === Kkiidio [n=igpsi@81.212.103.242] has joined #ubuntu === Kkiidio [n=igpsi@81.212.103.242] has left #ubuntu [] === hutgyyr [n=juniper0@86.42.40.226] has joined #ubuntu [04:04] batoms, ah :( === Pskiyatri_06m [n=zurnanet@81.215.245.3] has joined #ubuntu === Pskiyatri_06m [n=zurnanet@81.215.245.3] has left #ubuntu [] [04:04] more specifically, any idea where network-manager stores the wep key? I think I've given it the wrong value and it doesn't connect, but there's no obvious way to try another value. === florian [n=florian@dsl-082-083-238-159.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:04] atha: 0.050-3ubuntu7 [04:05] sound should be enabled!! [04:05] Nikopol: i get the dreaded xklavier dialog if i change it from default [04:05] batoms, aie! [04:05] p&p should be disabled [04:05] deFrysk: I know ... but just following a suggestion from Toma at same time ... [04:05] twibbler, oki :) [04:05] i dont seem to have smbmount intstalled on my machine and when I use apt-get to get it, it cant find it. Where can I get it === sproingie [i=foobar@64-121-2-59.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:05] and yes. get rid of plugnplay [04:05] batoms, sorry not sure how to work that one :( [04:06] was windows 95 feature that sucked butt. [04:06] Thank you will be back in a short while I hope ..... [04:06] hutgyyr: Do you have the samba package installed? [04:06] my keyboard doesnt work in console mode, some keys are swaped, how do i change it to spanish (es) keyboard ? [04:06] autrata- yes [04:06] hutgyyr: try smbfs [04:06] i have a little problem here, updating ubuntu to firefox 1.0.7(german), i managed to update to 1.0.6 with apt install... like some german website said, but how do i get 1.0.7 ? === Kaltzu [n=Kaltzu@addr-82-128-216-40.suomi.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:07] i have the samba server runnning aswell === feride_ [n=zurnanet@81.215.245.3] has joined #ubuntu === BlankB [n=blank@adsl-64-123-9-183.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:07] can I use smbfs to mount a Windows share [04:08] hutgyyr: mount -t smbfs -o ...etc... man smbmount === Linux_Galore [n=logan1@60-240-8-91-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu [] [04:08] hutgyyr: package smbfs contains smbmount, which is used by mount -t smbfs [04:08] Does quicktime have some strange audio codecs? [04:08] cause I can't hear any sounds === e1vis [n=user@adsl-68-127-102-30.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === cob_ [n=cob@82.248.179.153] has joined #ubuntu === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:09] so if im mounting a Windows share thats ntfs i do not specify this in the mount command [04:09] /quit [04:09] clear [04:09] hutgyyr: no, not if you're mounting across a network === ranyzvra1y [n=ranyzvra@85-135-130-93.adsl.slovanet.sk] has left #ubuntu [] [04:10] hurg: err... no.. you are using 'smbfs' filesystem to access it ;p [04:10] well... thats just at network level.. etc... [04:10] the filesystem driver ebing used by the remote system isn't relevant [04:11] On Ubuntuguide.org it explains how to add additional repositories ... if I have Breezy installed ... can I just change "Hoary" to "Breezy" wherever it appears? === Sp4rKy_ [n=sp4rKy@wifisrv.univ-rennes1.fr] has joined #ubuntu === ruy [n=ruy@201.135.250.91] has joined #ubuntu [04:11] hi [04:11] hou5ton, stop using ubuntuguide [04:11] ok, now this is the command im specifying. mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.230/temp storage /mnt/oldserverwork -o username=******,password=****** Its not working though, it justs throws up the different options for the mount command === BlankB [n=blank@adsl-64-123-9-183.dsl.austtx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:12] anyone know where i can find viavoice for linux ? [04:12] hou5ton, use the wiki! [04:12] hutgyyr: what's 'storage'? === Jhair [n=user@p54A3C4AC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:13] thats the name of the folder 'temp storage' [04:13] heh [04:13] hutgyyr: ah, try: temp\ storage [04:13] hutgyr: Throwin in a \ before the blank ;-) === othernoob [n=othernoo@p54A2DADC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:13] because of the space mount thinks storage is another argument on the command line [04:14] please [04:14] nice one, thanks guys [04:14] anyone have viavoice and xvoice === birikki [n=birikki@host58-149.pool8256.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [04:15] ciao [04:15] what would be the command to see how many gigs are in each folder in that share === robbkidd [n=robbkidd@ip70-179-76-249.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:16] hutgyyr: du -s * [04:16] Hallo, 'Buntuers. [04:16] hi [04:16] robbkidd: goedendag === Chaykin_ [n=kamil@gw-ww.telsten.com] has joined #ubuntu === J` [n=asdf@81.198.23.181] has joined #ubuntu [04:17] anyone fro italy? [04:17] from [04:17] !it [04:17] deFrysk: What? [04:17] nope [04:18] Knorrie: Gesungheit. [04:18] anyone remember which package i use with dpkg-reconfigure to turn on the decent font hinting? === mad_pheonix [n=btimm@dyn-0-39.uwnet.wisc.edu] has joined #ubuntu [04:18] s/Gesungheit/Gesundheit/ [04:18] sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig [04:18] deFrysk: is there an italian language room? [04:18] nalioth, I believe not === KD-Misafir385 [n=KD-Misaf@85.98.69.152] has joined #ubuntu [04:18] nalioth, no it to be found === twibbler [n=twibbler@dsl-80-41-121-205.access.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:19] alisher: thanks. hm, everything was at defaults, tahoma still looks like ass [04:19] deFrysk: there is [04:19] anyone experiencing the same problems with gphpedit on breezah? (it keeps throwing everything around when i type) === sproingie shrugs. personal taste perhaps [04:19] nalioth: deFrysk #ubuntu-it [04:19] ubotu, does not seem to know [04:19] deFrysk: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? [04:19] I've been using Debian for a while now and have wished for a way to quickly determine the changes of a package. Is there a quick way to access changelogs for package updates, particularly before the package is applied? [04:19] Toma: deFrysk: well made it back but still got no sound ... checked as carefully as poss on boot up and get bleeps when loading amixer ... also setting sensor limits failed .... === maint [n=maint@82-147-17-42.dsl.uk.rapidplay.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:20] robbkidd: apt-get install apt-listchanges. in aptitude, you can hit C to see the changelog [04:20] robbkidd: read the changelogs on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ [04:20] Now that I have Breezy installed ... will it just seamlessly update into the final release as time goes on? [04:20] sproingie: Ooo. Shiny. [04:20] Knorrie: Not exactly quick, though. [04:21] nalioth, how does one do that ? and I dont speak italian to make a proper entry [04:21] robbkidd: synaptic has an option to download the changelog... [04:21] robbkidd: actually i seem to be able to use the C command without even having apt-listchanges [04:22] sproingie: with apt-listchanges can I check the logfile for a package that hasn't been installed yet? AFAIK no... [04:22] afk === hXomeMiu [n=iooze@81.213.0.33] has joined #ubuntu === hXomeMiu [n=iooze@81.213.0.33] has left #ubuntu [] === hXomeMiu [n=iooze@81.213.0.33] has joined #ubuntu === hXomeMiu is now known as uokBuuio [04:22] Jhair: then aptitude's tool is superior, because it can show the changelog of a not-installed package [04:22] what is the glib package in ubuntu? I'm trying to use anjuta and it complains about not having glib. Is it not recognizing it because it's named libglib in ubuntu? === Octane_ [n=dan@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu === uokBuuio [n=iooze@81.213.0.33] has left #ubuntu [] [04:23] is there a way to load an application to desktop0 in kde from the shell? [04:23] nalioth: are you familiar with dvd burning problems? [04:23] sproingie: yes, that was I was thinking, synaptic does have that feature too, I don't use apt-listchanges because it lacks of that feature [04:23] btw, is there documentation how "volatile" kernel modules work? the fglrx module just sort of magically appears there when i need it, and i have no idea how [04:24] frickin hell, dont tell me you can see status of file copying if moving a folder over the network from the command line === uokBuuio [n=iooze@81.213.0.33] has joined #ubuntu === uokBuuio [n=iooze@81.213.0.33] has left #ubuntu [] [04:24] How do I change the different available screen resolutions? (I only selected 640x480 during the ubuntu setup, but now I would like to have more available) ? === unreal [i=unreal@unaffiliated/unreal] has joined #ubuntu [04:25] no??? [04:26] maint: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg === ezio [n=ezio@orion.unipv.it] has joined #ubuntu === MarcN [n=marc@dsl.wildcat.mv.com] has left #ubuntu [] [04:26] maint: or sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf [04:27] Jhair/sproingie: Bueno. Exactly what I was looking for. I've been wanting that for a long time, but never bothered *looking* for it. === unreal_ [n=unreal@unaffiliated/unreal] has joined #ubuntu [04:27] So, maybe I should say that I've been "wanting" that for a long time, since I wasn't looking for it. [04:27] hey... how can i completely remove all mail servers (cyrus, postfix, sendmail) and their config files? i've gone wrong a few times and need to get fresh configs ;) === iCaCOiFaue [n=iooze@81.213.0.33] has joined #ubuntu === iCaCOiFaue [n=iooze@81.213.0.33] has left #ubuntu [] [04:28] what's the apt-get or dpkg command to remove a package and it's config files? [04:28] aptitude does it [04:29] Fred: sudo apt-get remove --purge [packages ...] [04:29] thanks :) [04:30] does anybody know how to install glib for the anjuta c/c++ ide? === ruy_jol [n=ruy@201.135.250.91] has joined #ubuntu === NoHope [n=silas@201-27-24-144.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #ubuntu === g0rd0n [n=Hal9000@vpn252.rz.uni-mannheim.de] has joined #ubuntu [04:31] hello! [04:31] first command just gives the result "xserver-xorg is not installed", and the second one just opens and empty conf file :( [04:31] mad_pheonix: my guess is you need glib-devel [04:31] i just installed breezy, and am wondering where the "root terminal" icon has gone from the menu... how can i restore it? === sproingie updates breezy and it's giving him a new kernel and xorg driver, may need to reboot [04:31] i hate doing sudo :P === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:31] sproingie: would that be libglib-devel? i didn't see any packages just named glib === barosl^win [i=barosl@220.120.226.143] has joined #ubuntu [04:32] is this a big problem?: exim: failed to find uid for user name "Debian-exim" [04:32] Can't send mail: sendmail process failed [04:32] mad_pheonix: whatever. btw, it's spelled phoenix === e1vis [n=user@adsl-68-127-102-30.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu ["ERC] [04:32] g0rd0n: use smeg to add whatever icons === Fred|Fred is now known as Fred|Fr3d [04:33] nice :) thanks alexandros [04:33] ups alisher [04:33] bin ja alexander === zever [n=zever@ip-81-11-223-51.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #ubuntu === __Ace__ [n=love@h55l211.delphi.afb.lu.se] has joined #ubuntu [04:35] is this a big problem?: exim: failed to find uid for user name "Debian-exim" and Can't send mail: sendmail process failed [04:35] re: .deb changelogs - Synaptic is downloading the latest available changelog, ja? === ezdellis [n=ezdellis@cpe-24-162-127-176.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu === Axioplase [n=Pied@APuteaux-154-1-17-56.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [04:37] Hi === eeeioP [n=oyouqmr@81.12.254.119] has joined #ubuntu [04:37] Gah. I can't communicate well today. Reworded: Is Synaptic downloading the changelog from the latest available (i.e. highest version number) package? [04:37] Fred|Fr3d: :) you just removed your mailserver and all of it's configuration, and are wondering you can't send mail now? :P === eeeioP [n=oyouqmr@81.12.254.119] has left #ubuntu [] [04:37] Just wondering... I need Ubuntu-ja, but I have no CD to burn it. Can I install ubuntu (which CD I have) and upgrade it to ubuntu-ja ? === sgbirch [n=sgbirch@212.159.52.225] has joined #ubuntu === mumbles-work is now known as mumbles === |maddox| [n=dox@a212-113-184-53.netcabo.pt] has joined #ubuntu [04:38] not really... i have tried sendmail and postfix, and i wasnt able to send or receive mail... now i'm trying exim. [04:38] Fred: It is a problem for certain values of big. === nxv_ [n=nxv_@dsl-084-056-087-191.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:38] sooo, anyone know what I should do? those two commands didnt work :( === anethema [n=anathema@S0106000ea6683ec6.ok.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:38] What's the procedure here? I don't want to barge in on you all. [04:38] i just want an smtp and pop3 server that's relatively easy to configure... [04:39] i have a problem with my TV card: it's a Hauppauge WinTV FM (BT 878 chip). I installed tvtime, the channels got tuned and the image is fine, but i get no audio. The sound card line-in is on in the mixer, it's the tv card that outputs no audio. It works in windows xp though. How can i fix this? [04:39] is there a cmd i can issue which will constantly show me the file size updating of a directory im copying over the network [04:39] Fred: I'm quite fond of exim, but I weened onto Debian and acquired the taste. You might try confirming that exim is installed correctly (sudo apt-get install --reinstall exim4) and rerunning the configuration (sudo dpkg-reconfigure exim4) [04:39] hutgyyr: `watch ls -l` [04:39] damn, firefox just got upgraded..that was so fast === PLiqjueu [n=oyouqmr@81.12.254.119] has joined #ubuntu [04:39] robbkidd: i only just installed it 2 mins ago :\ === PLiqjueu [n=oyouqmr@81.12.254.119] has left #ubuntu [] [04:39] firefox used to be way behind [04:39] here the relevant devices: [04:39] 0000:01:08.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11) [04:39] 0000:01:08.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11) [04:40] Speaking of firefox [04:40] it was during the install i got that error === arkais [n=arkais@200.79.212.180] has joined #ubuntu [04:40] the upgrade broke my install [04:40] Can I save my bookmarks? === chorton [n=chorton@pcp0010702372pcs.manass01.va.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === iVoiei [n=eueileo@82.114.168.58] has joined #ubuntu [04:40] Fred: At this point, it couldn't hurt to refresh it. === iVoiei [n=eueileo@82.114.168.58] has left #ubuntu [] [04:41] g0rd0n: hmm, strange. my card just works [04:41] robbkidd: i've reinstalled and reconfigured... [04:41] WinTV pci === twibbler [n=twibbler@dsl-80-41-121-205.access.as9105.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:41] exdellis: cp ./mozilla/firefox//bookmark.html [04:41] i should be able to telnet to localhost on 110 right? [04:41] Xappe: same chip? [04:42] g0rd0n: yes [04:42] Fred: Ah. No. Exim only provides SMTP (port 25). [04:42] robbkidd oh. well when i telnet to that i see "Sendmail" in the lines i get [04:42] when I setup mplayer to full screen the actual video size doesn't increase how could I fix this problem? [04:42] Xappe: does the audio come through the audio card line-in in your case? [04:42] I got a syntax error [04:43] I'm kinda afraid of the cmdline [04:43] robbkidd: what pop3 server would you recommend? [04:43] hold on [04:43] g0rd0n: yes it does...have you checked so the volumes are ok in the mixer/tvtime? [04:43] Fred: I've been using the courier suite of mail servers, though my install is obscenely simple. === bipolar [n=bipolar@146.145.26.90] has joined #ubuntu === gebruiker [n=gebruike@vnd-2808.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu [04:43] Xappe: tvtime is at 100%, the mixer is ok (if i attach my mp3 player to the line in i hear the sound) [04:43] Fred: Lemme check if Ubuntu has any recommendation (and therefore some docs). [04:44] robbkidd: well i dont really care what i use as long as i can send and receive mail... thanks tho :) [04:44] There doesn't appear to be a profile directory in my ./mozilla/firefox [04:44] g0rd0n: strange [04:45] I assume you mean the one in my home folder === ColonelKernel [i=ishai@24-205-124-191.dhcp.hspr.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:45] Fred: There's a recommendation in the forums for running Hula, which seems to be an exciting web mail and calendar project. === uoeMqiY [n=oitooec@213.91.161.60] has joined #ubuntu === Earthen [n=Earthen@dpc674668219.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu === obPJiDeXi [n=oyouqmr@81.12.254.119] has joined #ubuntu [04:45] Fred|Fr3d: can you read dutch? [04:45] no :( [04:45] Fred: (Also supports POP) === Earthen [n=Earthen@dpc674668219.direcpc.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === obPJiDeXi is now known as eaLPei [04:45] ok Im still going round the bend with this sound card,,, No sound ... recompiled alsa ..... set modprobe ..... still get No such file or directory on amixer setup .. anybody any ideas .... === mabu [n=mabu@cmb32-29.dial-up.arnes.si] has joined #ubuntu === eaLPei is now known as LtdaaiK === uoeMqiY [n=oitooec@213.91.161.60] has left #ubuntu [] [04:45] robbkidd: well i have a webmail setup (horde/imp), but no server to connect to === Shadowpillar [n=Shadow@pool0102.cvx20-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:45] ezdellis: Make sure you've got the dot correct: ~/.mozilla/firefox [04:46] Fred|Fr3d: bummer, I didn't translate my own postfix docs yet :0 === LtdaaiK [n=oyouqmr@81.12.254.119] has left #ubuntu [] [04:46] were ubuntu's security update servers compromised? === eeoxJoo [n=oitooec@213.91.161.60] has joined #ubuntu [04:46] could it be a pci conflict .... ?... [04:46] twibbler, buy a cheap soundcard is my advice [04:46] maint: is xserver-xorg really not installed w you? [04:46] Shadowpillar: no, why? [04:46] Fred: Give courier-pop a whirl. I thought it was fairly simple to set up for localhost process intercommunication. [04:46] wtf [04:46] http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: MD5Sum mismatch [04:46] http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: MD5Sum mismatch [04:46] ok cool... how? [04:46] Yeah, in the hidden mozilla directory in my home folder, there isn't a profile directory [04:46] im going to buy a new tv card [04:46] this is making me sick === eeoxJoo [n=oitooec@213.91.161.60] has left #ubuntu [] [04:47] deFrysk: sounds good but I then need three .... (arrrgggghhh im not feeling sensible ).... [04:47] robbkidd: how/where is courier-pop? [04:47] exdellis: It'll be named something wonky like kxd87hgs.default [04:47] Oh [04:47] Fred: sudo apt-get install courier-pop [04:47] thanks [04:47] deFrysk: maybe time to do a full upgrade to breezy .... (just to check) ... but how ?. [04:48] pitti: can you explain? [04:48] twibbler, upgradenotes... see /topic [04:48] thanks, robbkidd === oheHiA [n=eueileo@82.114.168.58] has joined #ubuntu === oheHiA [n=eueileo@82.114.168.58] has left #ubuntu [] [04:48] Shadowpillar: you might have hit a bad time, when the packages were updated === TiffOn [i=user@218.Red-217-126-197.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:48] Shadowpillar: I just released a huge mozilla update [04:48] Knorrie: That command isn't actually showing the folder size though [04:48] how do I save my gnome configuration files [04:48] robbkidd: well i can connect to 110 now :) but i cant send a mail :S [04:48] Linux p4ht 2.6.14-rc2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Sep 23 03:17:41 PDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux <-- behold my glory! [04:48] Shadowpillar: try to update the package index again [04:48] so tat i can restore it when i do a fresh install next time [04:48] ok the firefox thing isnt wokring for me at all in apt! wtf is going on....http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2462 === DXT [i=linux@CBL212-235-18-242.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [04:48] pitti: that's what I was updating for, because of that new exploit [04:49] can anyone look at that and tell me why i cant install newer firefox === klepysik [n=ik@80.178.120.44.adsl.012.net.il] has joined #ubuntu [04:49] pitti: think there will ever be an updated zsnes in the future? === thesaltydog [n=fabio@host48-222.pool8255.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [04:50] anethema, you can if you wish === HomerHomerHomer [n=Homer@82-44-184-250.cable.ubr06.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [04:50] Shadowpillar: we don't have that package [04:50] can it be added? [04:51] hutgyyr: `du -s .` shows the total size of the folder you're in and all that's below === Pronco [n=G33k@62.139.191.239] has joined #Ubuntu [04:51] zsnes is in my list [04:51] not sure which repository === fsmw [n=Fernando@200.72.33.77] has joined #ubuntu [04:51] robbkidd: i can connect using pop3 fine, so thanks. but i cant even connect to 25 from my other pc or telnet to it, but i can telnet to it on the pc it's running on :S === Pronco [n=G33k@62.139.191.239] has left #Ubuntu ["Leaving"] [04:51] universe I think [04:51] anethema, dowload the installer and install it locally or in /local or something [04:51] ah, multiverse [04:51] Knorrie: Yes, its just i would like to be able to see a constant update of file size === marc_ [n=marc@137.Red-83-45-144.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:52] deFrysk: thank you ... doing it know .... I see what its like .... hehehehehe [04:52] i'd rather not use the installer, want apt to keep it updated. [04:52] hutgyyr: what's wrong with `watch` === Sam3773 [n=Sam3773@host81-132-63-114.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu === slackman [n=post@ACB6177E.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu === GhostFreeman [n=ghostfre@67.132.246.104] has joined #ubuntu [04:52] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68322 seriosly someone must know? [04:52] gn&st! [04:52] anethema: wild guess, disk full? === GodFather [n=rcc@adsl-68-250-145-129.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:52] hallo @ aoll [04:52] twibbler, good luck should work fine and check in dayly here to see if its safe to run the current updates [04:53] no :) [04:53] how can I have back my boot screen after latest kernel update (-9)? The screen is completely black during boot sequence... [04:53] its not showing the file size. drwxr-xr-x 31 user user 4096 2005-09-23 15:52 ARCHIVE_TEMP === bina [n=bina@202.95.133.22] has joined #ubuntu [04:53] im gonna just remove it all then reinstall from apt. [04:53] can anyone tell me how i can log in ubuntu as super user ?? ?? [04:53] No screens found makes sam emo. [04:53] slackman, from the console [04:53] !tell slackman about sudo [04:54] deFrysk: will do but not long before it is official ... just a shame I have to download in office and not at home ..... (2.2mg at home)... [04:54] Ok thanks [04:54] Fred: Ah. Something's telling exim to bind only to the loopback address. Lemme dig for a fix. [04:54] twibbler, Isee [04:54] thanks robbkidd === neighborlee [n=neighbor@d6-56.rb2.gh.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu === HomerHomerHomer [n=Homer@82-44-184-250.cable.ubr06.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === Orunitia [n=Orunitia@69-172-23-123.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu [04:54] is anyone using vga=791 in kopt grub line? === bal [n=bal@e178077091.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu [04:54] bye bye [04:55] HI guys, I can gat the udma settings for my hd using hdparm -i /dev/hda. Is this they values available? IE what both the drive and controller can handle, or just the drive? [04:55] Anyone have any clue about 'No screens found' on an Nvidia 5200 running Hoary. [04:55] thesaltydog, I believe its the default setting in ubuntu [04:55] when im copying files over the network has the network card got a buffer or how does it work [04:55] hutgyyr: drwxr-xr-x is a directory, not a file [04:56] Knorrie: yes, sorry I actually meant updating the directory size [04:56] deFrysk, no, if you set that line you do not have uspalsh. Anyway, now it is not working anymore.. [04:57] hutgyyr: `watch du -s ARCHIVE_TEMP` [04:57] thesaltydog, there is another way to get your splash back but not with vga=blah [04:57] hutgyyr: but that's rather `expensive` [04:57] thesaltydog, not sure how to do that tho === HomerHomerHomer [n=Homer@82-44-184-250.cable.ubr06.haye.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [04:58] Knorrie: In what sense? [04:58] deFrysk, I do not want usplash, I want my booting sequence in small fonts. With latest kernel I have a black screen... [04:58] hutgyyr: it counts the size of all files in the directory every n seconds [04:58] ubuntu got its own kernel right? [04:58] thesaltydog, I see [04:58] hutgyyr: so that's lot of extra disk access, which you dont want while copying [04:58] afk === chavo [n=chavo@94.sub-70-196-79.myvzw.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:59] mmh, why does mkdir /image/user/ not work? [04:59] rephrase: ubuntu isnt running the official linux kernel but a modified one right? === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-83-29.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu [04:59] mmmm, in GUI mode does the progess status do the same thing as watch du -s [04:59] when i boot, linux isnt able to mount sata drives automatically, and it tells me its broken or something. it works tho, when i do manually mount them later. how can i fix this? [04:59] hutgyyr: i guess not [04:59] what error do you get othernoob? [05:00] Gobbla: that it can't create it.. [05:00] othernoob: when /image doesn't exist already: `mkdir -p /image/user` [05:00] othernoob: -p creates dirs and subdirs at once === alisher [n=alex@vp173029.nt.uac64.hknet.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === toxicle [n=toxicle@60.48.182.36] has joined #ubuntu === alisher [n=alex@vp173029.nt.uac64.hknet.com] has joined #ubuntu === Kaos`mm-Ezekiel is now known as Kaos`mm-Eze|off === sunburst [n=kit@61.143.11.37] has joined #ubuntu === dtamas [n=dtamas@IP-115.c-211.TvNetWork.Hu] has left #ubuntu [] [05:01] robbkidd: any luck? [05:01] Knorrie: thanks, thought it would create the subdirs without further commands .. === Ruslan [i=rni@dialup-83-174-209-79.ufamts.ru] has joined #ubuntu [05:02] othernoob: np === JustSteve [n=shadesof@ppp-69-221-17-182.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:03] Anyone able to help me with getting a make to run? === TraceGreen [n=Trace@61.51.143.177] has joined #ubuntu === barosl [n=barosl@220.120.226.143] has joined #ubuntu === iqoAHS- [n=iqoahs@cm2.epsilon120.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu === skamster [n=skamster@84-72-180-17.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #ubuntu [05:04] probably, but they're not going to guess for the problem.. [05:05] hi. i have 2hdd now. i want to install a fresh copy of ubuntu on my 2nd hdd, do i use expert mode or default mode? if i use default mode, do i get to select which hdd for ubuntu to install on? thanks.. === bobrik [n=user@bp-204-138.dialup.vitebsk.by] has joined #ubuntu === spayne [n=spayne@i-195-137-120-148.freedom2surf.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:06] iqoAHS-: default should be fine yes [05:06] kemik, going into default, then can i choose which hdd to install on? [05:06] iqoAHS-: yes, the regular installer will let you select hd's. if you have experience with the basic installer, you should give the expert one a whirl and see which you prefer [05:07] Fred: Best I've found is this tutorial - http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/ [05:07] thanks robbkidd, i'll check it out === sproingie actually has experience only with the expert installer [05:07] sproningie, me too [05:07] being debian, i don't get exposed to the installer all that often [05:07] i was using the expert one just now. but got stuck [05:07] interesting: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,1860715,00.asp [05:08] after selecting a hdd to install on, does the installer partion the hdd itself? [05:08] if I had two servers and I wanted to transfer between them through a third party, say another linux box. What work will the third party have to do? Will it buffer it, write to disk before transferring [05:10] hey im trying to upgrade skype...it is saying: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed [05:10] isnt the ver i have larger? [05:10] whlie i am exploring things, i discover all these sleeping processes, using my monitor thingy, so, they using up tremendously alot memory, do i need them? they are asleep. can i delete them? [05:10] robbkidd: it says before i install them that i have to remove exim4... what pop3 server does this howto use then? [05:11] smtp* === stoeptegel [n=koploper@roxx.demon.nl] has joined #ubuntu === redtech_ [n=reddog@unaffiliated/redtech] has joined #ubuntu === jcohen85 [n=jason@dhcp-129-64-160-38.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #ubuntu [05:12] sambagirl: monitor thingy? [05:13] Fred|Fr3d: smtp and pop are really different things [05:13] Knorrie: i know [05:13] yes === nailbiter [i=foobar@c211-28-131-6.eburwd3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === Shadowpillar [n=Shadow@pool0102.cvx20-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net] has left #ubuntu ["And] === b-movie [n=Bad@dsl-082-083-168-005.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:14] anyone know whats goin on with my skype? hehe [05:14] othernoob yes [05:14] does skype work with this ubuntu? [05:14] sambagirl: i was actually just wondering what a "monitor thingy" is [05:14] sure === aeoe [n=axelf@66-214-60-27.dhcp.hspr.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:14] ahh [05:14] just add the skype repository to your sources.list and apt-get it [05:14] othernoob [05:14] ? [05:15] anethema: is your skype not working ? [05:15] system moniitor [05:15] <[Wiebel] > hmm [05:15] skype is working twibbler [05:15] <[Wiebel] > I still can't get firefox to talk to esd === leopard [n=charm@Toronto-HSE-ppp3711440.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu === stoeptegel [n=koploper@roxx.demon.nl] has left #ubuntu ["Bye] [05:15] anyone else having problems upgrading firefox to 1.0.7? [05:15] i just want to upgrade the version, and the message it is giving me is.. Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3.2) but 3:3.3.3-7ubuntu3 is to be installed [05:15] ah.. === xagoln [n=ash@146.101.247.18] has joined #ubuntu [05:15] aeoe, i did :( wouldnt do it because of some other package [05:15] bah [05:16] ihave 2002 ppc it wont use bah [05:16] anethema: hum .... nice to hear its working .. so you sorted out the esd problem then ... [05:16] so i removed and reinstalled === Madeye [n=Jad@194.165.158.105] has joined #ubuntu === Leshrac [n=carles@96.Red-80-36-252.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:16] anethema: did it work? [05:16] esd? no [05:16] aeoe: firefox sucks :p get Opera ;) [05:16] im making it just use dsp [05:16] othernoob: I am using Opera :P [05:16] aeoe, yeah worked [05:16] aeoe: :) [05:16] i know does ppc / pda work with ubuntu? i think i ask this before. is there offtopic channel for ubuntu? [05:16] i disabled esd. [05:16] use alsa/dmix for everything that i can === sgbirch [n=sgbirch@212.159.52.225] has left #ubuntu [] [05:16] sambagirl: #ubuntu-offtopic ;) [05:16] anethema: yep had to do all that on laptop .... [05:17] thanks othernnob === iahUou [n=aweesyuu@195.242.245.160] has joined #ubuntu === Echelon-H [n=echelon@DSL217-132-180-32.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #ubuntu === shoshe [n=shoshe@203.81.220.20] has joined #ubuntu === iahUou [n=aweesyuu@195.242.245.160] has left #ubuntu [] [05:17] but i dont know why its giving me this message...the version ive got is higher than what it wants. === iahUou [n=aweesyuu@195.242.245.160] has joined #ubuntu [05:17] is there any reason why can't i unrar some file? === Blissex [n=Blissex@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #Ubuntu === iahUou [n=aweesyuu@195.242.245.160] has left #ubuntu [] [05:17] hi Everyone === DPjim [n=aeahsu@212.98.159.116] has joined #ubuntu [05:18] Echelon-H: If you're using the open source version of 'rar', you won't be able to extract newer archives === DPjim [n=aeahsu@212.98.159.116] has left #ubuntu [] [05:19] can anyone help me with the "Sudoers" file ... i kinda made a big mistake ! === sproingie discovers the best feature of sudo: insults [05:19] sambagirl: I've been using Ubuntu Hoary on a Mac Mini and a Dual G5 without any problems [05:19] shoshe: that's why you should use visudo, it syntax checks before committing if you made a mistake [05:19] tell us your problem === Nikopol is now known as nikopol-playing- [05:19] shoshe: You locked yourself out of your system? :) === FruityLoop [n=jeffrey@p54AE9117.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu === Jowi [n=johan@bgn92-4-82-238-212-88.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:20] How does the Hoary X autoconfiguration scheme work? Where are the scripts actually kept? I'd like to use them for a diskless terminal setup [05:20] well actually i only have one user in the system ... and i edited the sudoers file for nopasswd thing but made a mistake in the syntex === daan [n=daan@ip3e83972b.speed.planet.nl] has joined #ubuntu === inc595 [n=mike@65.34.149.145] has joined #ubuntu [05:20] now it says that u are not part of the sudoers and hence i cannot use the command Sudo === inc_ [n=mike@65.34.149.145] has joined #ubuntu [05:20] hi all. how do i resolve the firefox-gnome-support upgrade errors? [05:20] so cant install update anything :S [05:21] should look like this %admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL [05:21] shoshe: reboot into single-user mode. tho i suppose if you didn't set a root password, you might not be able to do that === seby [n=seby@p54A26A70.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:21] shoshe: you do have at least another user don't you? [05:21] shoshe: init=/bin/bash [05:21] i did this "system_username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL" [05:21] shoshe: worst case, you could avail yourself of one of the many fine rescue disks and edit sudoers from that [05:22] mon: aaa nops :D !! thats the prob === Sam3773 [n=Sam3773@host81-132-63-114.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu [] [05:22] whats the prob ? [05:22] spronigie : dont have a floppy disk ... lolz [05:22] apg-get upgrade with firefox get broken pipes, error code (1) [05:22] sup chaneel [05:22] shoshe: well like everyone says then: boot in single user mode (init=/bin/bash) or use the ubuntu livecd for example [05:22] Hey all. I just installed Ubuntu and now i'm wondering where i can find the settings for the video card. === inc595 [n=mike@65.34.149.145] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:23] Jowi: I have the same problem :( [05:23] just [05:23] search for firefox [05:23] daan: you probably mean /etc/X11/xorg.conf (dont forget to make a backup) [05:23] remove all those [05:23] mon: u mean to say to use live cd to boot and then mount the drive and then edit the file ? [05:23] BUT first back your .mozilla dir up [05:23] shoshe: jup [05:23] aeoe: ah === Yvonne [n=justme@cn-sdm-cr02-1437.dial.kabelfoon.nl] has left #ubuntu [""] [05:23] daan: Or did you want to change your screen resolution on-the-fly? [05:23] anethema: When I try to remove it, it says it wants to remove "ubuntu-desktop" too [05:23] shoshe: the init=/bin/bash options takes less time [05:23] what? doh [05:23] mon : humm ... sounds good ... atleast i wont have to do a reinstall [05:23] anethema: so apt-get removing the packages first will solve it? [05:24] aeoe: ubuntu-desktop is safe to remove [05:24] i used synaptic so it removed em all [05:24] shoshe: you really got to f**k a system up before it needs a reinstall :) [05:24] Elko : how do i perform that ? can u please explain a bit === NADiDE_ [n=arif_sus@AStrasbourg-252-1-31-108.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === NADiDE_ [n=arif_sus@AStrasbourg-252-1-31-108.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu [] === giles [n=giles@c-67-187-34-87.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:24] Jowi: er, are you sure? [05:24] aeoe: yes. [05:24] shoshe: in the grub menu, edit the line and add the init= part [05:24] aeoe: ubuntu-desktop is a dummy package [05:24] Jowi: i think he means that ubuntu-desktop takes pretty much everything with it (metapackage) [05:24] ok. thanks to everyone that helped ;) === toxicle [n=toxicle@60.48.182.36] has joined #ubuntu === ChaKy [n=chaky@83-131-139-117.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu [05:24] mon : lolz .. since im not a good linux user so its kinda f**kup situation for me ;) [05:25] mon: it shouldn't. i removed ubuntu-desktop without removing everything :) [05:25] good day [05:25] hi giles === seb128 [n=seb128@ANancy-151-1-23-22.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [05:25] yes you can remove ubuntu-desktop without problems [05:25] Jowi: i did it too sometime, don't know how anymore though.. :) === JanPieter [n=jieter@jieter.ocp-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:25] hey Jowi [05:25] shoshe: you'll get into a single user root shell, then you can visudo again [05:25] JanPieter: wazaaaaa [05:25] mon, aeoe: hang on. i will try it out [05:25] who is using spyre here/ [05:25] anyone able to get xmradio to work ? === burcum [n=orhan21@213.213.252.75] has joined #ubuntu === burcum [n=orhan21@213.213.252.75] has left #ubuntu [] [05:25] Knorrie: whazaa === burcum [n=orhan21@213.213.252.75] has joined #ubuntu === burcum [n=orhan21@213.213.252.75] has left #ubuntu [] [05:26] skype i mean [05:26] sambagirl, i am using skype [05:26] whats up [05:26] Elko : u mean to boot again and in the grub boot time menu edit/add init=part and then boot and then ill get the root shell [05:26] can you do private mseeage help me to understand to open thing? === gizem^ [n=selda^@213.213.252.75] has joined #ubuntu === bosborus [n=orhan21@213.213.252.75] has joined #ubuntu === gizem^ is now known as benimkaderim [05:26] shoshe: init=/bin/bash === Quink_ [n=martijn@jieter.ocp-s.tudelft.nl] has joined #ubuntu === bosborus [n=orhan21@213.213.252.75] has left #ubuntu [] === benimkaderim [n=selda^@213.213.252.75] has left #ubuntu [] [05:27] Elko : sound good ! lemme try that now and lets c what happens :D [05:27] gl === kara_GTI [n=arif_sus@AStrasbourg-252-1-31-108.w82-126.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu === Faust [n=jircii@d142-59-234-29.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:28] THANKS for the help guyz ! :) [05:28] .deb is right downloads for things, no? [05:28] can someone please tell me where is the default location of Xorg.0.log? [05:28] /var/log [05:28] thanks === Yvonne [n=justme@cn-sdm-cr02-1437.dial.kabelfoon.nl] has joined #ubuntu [05:29] Jowi: I fixed it by completely removing firefox (which removed the dummy package and yelp), but it's 1.0.7 now. [05:29] can anyone help me? I've just installed Breezy from Preview CD (I'm a Hoary user but this is a new PC). It freezes when trying to start X and the Xorg.0.log contains next to nothing [05:29] sambagirl, yes [05:29] sambagirl: generally yeah. if it's not available via apt [05:30] xagoln: hm maybe change videodriver to vesa? anything in dmesg? [05:30] I tried an apt-get upgdate && apt-get upgrade but it craps out on a particular pkg === gerarcone [n=gerarcon@85-18-14-12.fastres.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:30] hi! i'm trying to mount an ntfs partition, but only root can read it at this time... but i would like me (as normal user) to be able to read that partition... heres my entry in /etc/fstab: /dev/hda1 /mnt/winxp ntfs user,ro 0 0 what am i doing wrong? [05:30] Jowi: Ahh, those reinstalled perfectly as well. [05:30] aeoe: on my way to do the same. downloading the packages now, after the removal was made === sijoottt [i=sijoottt@casella.verplant.org] has joined #ubuntu [05:30] mon yeah haven't tried that - is it as simple as changing the driver name in xorg.cfg to vesa? [05:30] xagoln: jup :) === sijoottt is now known as Oetzi === Letku [n=Valluu_@dsl-aur2-p58.dial.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [05:31] a simple question: in wich repositories a can find w32codecs? i'm running BREEZY === Letku [n=Valluu_@dsl-aur2-p58.dial.inet.fi] has left #ubuntu ["Lhdss"] [05:31] gerarcone: marilat, use the ubuntu wiki [05:31] mon thanks mate. I am in recovery mode right now, running screen so I can use irssi, apt-get and lynx all at the same time [05:31] sambagirl, download the .deb file and do a dpkg -i skyppackage === alnr [n=alan@cpe-69-200-85-107.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:32] sambagirl, dont forget you will need GTK as well === oubs [n=oubs@ofu13.prost.hu-berlin.de] has joined #ubuntu [05:32] aeoe, anethema: yep, worked fine. [05:32] hi [05:33] Jowi: awesome === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax8-132.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [05:33] gerarcone: i think those were removed for legal reasons... should be somehwere though.. === crabstic [n=nsalmi@vanadium.adsl.abo.fi] has joined #ubuntu [05:33] !w32codecs [05:33] w32codecs is a set of codecs for popular audio/video formats (wmv etc). Install from giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs or breezy: seveas.ubuntulinux.nl. 64bit? See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 [05:34] i run ntpdate which sets my clock correctly but later, (like overnight) it reverts to -6 hours. i dont see anything in cron daily. ?? === thoreauputic [n=prospero@wolax8-132.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === farid [n=ubuntu@c-e416e253.261-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu === corvid [n=root@12-222-233-82.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:34] gerarcone: check out the links that ubotu just provided === Jemt [n=root@nat.kollegienet.dk] has joined #ubuntu [05:34] Jowi, :/ [05:34] Jowi, What links? [05:34] ubotu, tell gerarcone about w32codecs [05:35] alnr: you don't use vmware? [05:35] gerarcone: got it? [05:35] Jowi, ok === albacker [n=eni@217.24.240.8] has joined #ubuntu [05:35] mon: you probalby nailed it, it is a vmware guest , but i thought that just produced small errors [05:35] alnr: friend of mine had exactly the same problem :) something with vmware... === metzenweb [n=yep@cpe-66-24-90-112.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:35] Hi everyone. Im using the ubuntu live CD as we speak and I was wondering how I can access my local drive. [05:36] alnr: there is an option to sync host and guest time in vmware though. you checked that? [05:36] no, thanks, i'll research that === auk [n=scott@h-69-3-179-55.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:37] farid: depends. if you type in a terminal "sudo fdisk -l" to see if you recognise it === JanPieter [n=jieter@jieter.ocp-s.tudelft.nl] has left #ubuntu [] [05:37] Greetings. I have just installed Fluxbox on my Ubuntu 5.04. When I try to launch a program from a console, I get this error : Error opening display. I think it is because I'm trying to run the program from a terminal. But I c't seem to find a Run prompt in Fluxbox as I can in Gnome using ALT+F2 [05:37] mmh, how long does mkisofs take for a 4gb iso? [05:37] othernoob: same time it takes to write 4gb... depends on your config [05:38] Jowi: i hear this often. shouldn't hoary automount other partitions? === ionrock [n=ionrock@pool-70-16-86-151.alt.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:38] mon: yeah, but farid is running the live-cd === doko [n=doko@dhcp-sn38-024.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de] has joined #ubuntu [05:38] Jowi, it finds the disk. but I can't find the files that are on it. [05:38] mon: i meant creating it.. [05:39] othernoob: i mean that too :) [05:39] farid: so which /dev/ is it located at and what is it formatted as? [05:39] Jowi, i can't download the packages from there [05:39] /dev/hda1 [05:39] mon: mmh, it takes a bit long i fink :/ [05:39] Jowi, it seems i should register [05:39] alnr: you have to boot the guest OS. then start "vmware-tools" iirc. it's kinda difficult to find === cb [n=cb@wavelan138.doc.ic.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [05:39] Should I be looking in /dev/hda1 ? [05:39] othernoob: you can check the filesize right? probably in /tmp or something [05:39] farid: that's probably it if you first installed windows and then ubuntu === bystander [n=peter@wolax8-132.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [05:40] mon, I'm using the live-cd. [05:40] farid: you're not familiar with mounting? [05:40] farid, yes. so in a terminal, type "sudo mount -t vfat (for fat32) /dev/hda1 /mount/windows (if you have created that disk) [05:40] s/disk/directory/ [05:40] hi, does anyone know how to activate sleep on a laptop manually (the button on the laptop isn't working) IIRC it's something like echo 1 > /sys/power/state [05:40] disk=direttory [05:40] :) [05:40] heh === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:41] Elko: yeah, typos. crap. Cheers :) [05:41] Jowi, what should I type for NTFS? [05:41] farid: -t ntfs [05:41] big typo.. :) === bystander [n=peter@wolax8-132.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu [] [05:41] mount -t ntfs [05:41] mon: thanks [05:41] cb: cat /sys/power/state [05:41] aight. thanks guys. let me try that :) [05:41] cb: use one of those :) === xagoln [n=ash@146.101.247.18] has joined #ubuntu === dafunk [n=dafunk@c-67-161-141-62.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:41] farid: make a win directory first. sudo mkdir /media/windows === leopard [n=charm@Toronto-HSE-ppp3711440.sympatico.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:42] goo_: cheers [05:42] farid then: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/windows === keikoz [n=keikoz@vol75-6-82-227-148-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu === Frafra [n=Frafra@d81-211-212-81.cust.tele2.it] has joined #ubuntu [05:42] anyone else with backports anabled having problems upgrading firefox? [05:42] enabled* [05:42] goo_: heh, now to see if it actually works ;) [05:43] hi all === keikoz s'lu all [05:43] cb: good luck :) Hope you have a new and proper ACPI BIOS :) [05:43] i'm trying to install hoary for g4 [05:43] cyphase: yes. we just solved it. completely remove old firefox first, then install it again. [05:43] xfonts upgrading problem in breezy, but no recent problems with mozilla [05:43] yea [05:43] i know [05:43] lol [05:43] haha, ok [05:43] when i try to set the user it return to the last passage [05:43] why? === JustSteve [n=shadesof@ppp-69-221-17-182.dsl.toldoh.ameritech.net] has joined #ubuntu === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu ["--out"] [05:44] fraf: what do you mean ''last passage'' ? === aeoe [n=axelf@66-214-60-27.dhcp.hspr.ca.charter.com] has left #ubuntu [] [05:44] goo_: yeah, it's a dell m70.. according to hardware support on the ubuntu wiki suspend to ram should work but not to disk [05:44] Jowi, thanks for your help. :) Folder created and drive mounted. But it doesn't let me access it due to permissions. What should I do next? [05:44] if im just using a basic standard partitioning setup (/boot,/,swap) I dont need LVM or EVMS enabled, do I? [05:44] Frafra: more info please === Ansy [n=ansyrom@62-43-73-67.user.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:44] farid: sudo su should let you access it. [05:44] Jowi: mm... it doesn't give me any error === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:44] cb: ok. My wifes Dell Inspiron 6000 actually suspends very well to disk as well [05:45] are the Breezy repos broken today? more specifically the pkgs? I am trying to 'apt-get upgrade' and getting an error processing x-common_1.08_all.deb === StRobo [n=strobo@c-d156e253.12-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu === StRobo [n=strobo@c-d156e253.12-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #ubuntu [] [05:45] farid: next step is to create a mountpoint for it in /etc/fstab so it mounts automatically when you boot. hang on [05:45] Jowi, what password? An optional password? [05:45] cb: my own IBM t40p does barely even survive suspend to RAM with ACPI :) It likes APM much better :) === pluffsy [n=emil@h199n2fls34o1118.telia.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:45] farid: your own password [05:45] "trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/X11/fonts' which is also in package xfonts-base [05:45] ubotu, tell farid about windowsdrives === ali4728 [n=ali4728@adsl-68-126-150-200.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu === tritium [n=rimbert@mip-lab4.ecn.purdue.edu] has joined #ubuntu [05:46] who could help me? === oldgoatj44 [n=oldgoatj@216.248.119.212] has joined #ubuntu [05:46] goo_: have you ever tried the hibernate package (+ kernel patches)? [05:46] Jowi, but it says "unknown id" when I type 'sudo su farid' [05:46] :( [05:46] cb: hm, no. I have just been using APM, and since it Just Worked [tm] I just stuck with that [05:46] goo_: fair enough [05:46] farid: just type "sudo su" then type in your password. [05:47] oohh === jjazz [n=jjazz@thurgood-marshall.sflc.info] has joined #ubuntu [05:47] farid: that will at least let you browse /media/windows and do what you want as a temporary solution. === StRobo [n=strobo@c-d156e253.12-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu [05:48] why sudo su ? just su is enough [05:48] is it possible to take a 'snapshot' of a frame of mplayer video? it comes out blank when I try, due to the use of an overlay... [05:48] cb: ah, it's a hackpack. I can actually suspend-to-ram without any other hacks than acpid, but maybe I could get suspend to disk to work properly with that hibernate package... === spiral [n=spiral@laf31-2-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu === StRobo [n=strobo@c-d156e253.12-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #ubuntu [] [05:48] keikoz: su isn't enough if you don't have the root password [05:48] cb: nice tips, thanks :) [05:48] farid, Jowi: you can use sudo -i [05:48] Jowi, I wrote "sudo su" then I pressed enter. then I wrote "farid" and it said farid: command not found === albertooo [n=francky@ASte-Genev-Bois-151-1-34-118.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu [05:48] ah yes in this case, sure [05:48] hello all [05:48] keikoz: and root account is disabled by default === bystander [n=alterego@wolax8-132.dialup.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [05:48] tritium: same thing [05:49] tritium: just habits i guess :) [05:49] when i try to set the user it return to the same passage. help me, please! it doesn't give any error :( === albacker [n=eni@217.24.240.8] has joined #ubuntu === foodcoman [n=berickso@mcdonaldwhsl.com] has joined #ubuntu [05:49] farid: in the terminal, does it have a "#" before you type? [05:49] but he anyway needs an account root tu su === albertooo [n=francky@ASte-Genev-Bois-151-1-34-118.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:49] to* === gm78 [n=ryan_mcg@S01060004e28f5eac.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu === drbombay43 [n=drbombay@ppp-69-239-114-144.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:50] Jowi, yes it does. And it says "root" in the beginning, so I guess I have root access [05:50] keikoz: nope. only need to be in the /etc/sudoers file === esnaf [n=Java@212.156.166.52] has joined #ubuntu [05:50] farid: great. so now you should be able to access your windows drive [05:50] bah ... i dont like that sudo [05:50] are the Breezy repos broken today? more specifically the pkgs? I am trying to 'apt-get upgrade' and getting an error processing x-common_1.08_all.deb [05:50] are the Breezy repos broken today? more specifically the pkgs? I am trying to 'apt-get upgrade' and getting an error processing x-common_1.08_all.deb [05:50] "trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/X11/fonts' which is also in package xfonts-base [05:50] Jowi, it's still unaccessible. :( [05:50] Jowi, it has a red cross over the folder icon [05:50] farid. yes. but. [05:50] xagoln: you know breezy is in active development, right? [05:51] tritium yes [05:51] farid: in the terminal: "cd /media/windows" . and then "ls" [05:51] xagoln: Breezy is still being developed....they don't guarantee it won't break. === tommy [n=tommy@p54BE03E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu === mode/#ubuntu [+o tritium] by ChanServ [05:51] Jowi, permission denied [05:52] farid: huh? [05:52] I removed xfonts-base and it seems to be rconfiguring every package on my system now [05:52] Jowi, wait up. it seems like i have to write sudo su again === flint_ [n=flint@static-66-160-92-78.dsl.cavtel.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:52] Jowi, ahh [05:52] now [05:52] :D [05:52] thanks bon jovi! === LC-DDM [i=net_knig@po-217-129-252-108.netvisao.pt] has joined #ubuntu [05:53] wew [05:53] farid: what you type in a terminal is not reflected on what you see on your desktop. being "root" in a terminal does not give you root permissions in gnome for example. === LordVamont [n=lv@67-139-115-90.dsl1.pco.ca.frontiernet.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:53] firefox 1.0.7 is available for hoary just now [05:53] farid: you're welcome man === cb [n=cb@wavelan138.doc.ic.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu [05:53] xagoln: I think they are broken...doesn't seem to affect my system other than being a bit annoying. I'm sure they'll have it patched in a few hours. === LordVamont [n=lv@67-139-115-90.dsl1.pco.ca.frontiernet.net] has left #ubuntu [] === Ferrdaa [n=^^lazkop@ip68-109-117-210.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu === Ferrdaa [n=^^lazkop@ip68-109-117-210.ri.ri.cox.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:54] Jowi, I see. What can I do to be root in gnome? Im not used to work in a terminal environment and I haven't learnt all commands yet === bipolar [n=bipolar@146.145.26.90] has joined #ubuntu [05:54] goo_: bah, it sleeps without any problems but the screen doesn't come on after resuming :( [05:54] farid: you're encouraged to use sudo when necessary [05:54] Belutz: yeah...secunia rated the firefox command line flaw extremely critical (highest rating)....it didnt work all of the time though === mtchang [n=mtchang@60-198-155-41.static.tfn.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu [05:55] tritium, whats sudo? ;) [05:55] farid: you should get used to only using "sudo" when you really need it. for daily tasks, stick with logging in as a user. so the best thing is to give users permissions on a need-only basis. === FruityLoop [n=jeffrey@p54AE9117.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #ubuntu ["Verlassend"] [05:55] farid: it is not recommended to use gnome as root === salkin [n=salkin@c-24-99-70-56.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:56] !tell farid about rootsudo [05:56] cb: tried hitting Fn- ? [05:56] gm78: i see [05:56] cb: that's a trick that is said to light up the screen on some laptops [05:56] farid: please read that URL === meuserj|work [n=meuserj|@64.72.138.21] has joined #ubuntu [05:57] will do, tritium. :) Thanks! [05:57] (:) === frank23 [n=frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [05:57] thnks tritium [05:57] Does anyone know how I place ie. gkrellm in the top right corner of my Fluxbox Slit ? [05:57] Jowi, so I should only 'sudo su' when I'm for example mounting a drive or compiling software? [05:57] When I fire up [05:57] :) [05:57] here is a sudo question. does the sudo group have cups adminstration rights? [05:57] When I fire up 'gkrellm -w &' it starts in my bottom right corner [05:58] farid: yeah. but compiling software need not to be root. only installing it :) [05:58] goo_: worth a try i guess === spiral [n=spiral@laf31-2-82-224-249-43.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:58] goo_: doing a bit of googling before trying again though === Goshawk [n=vincenzo@host91-46.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu [05:58] flint_: the sudoers are in the admin group, and yes, they do have cups admin rights [05:58] cb: yeah, all those hard resets gives bad karma :) === Kaos`mm-Eze|off is now known as Kaos`mm-Ezekiel [05:58] hmm [05:58] Jowi, gotcha! Just tell me this last thing. What is the command for opening files? How can open an image with e.g Gimp? [05:58] Jemt: enable 'set sticky state' in the options [05:58] someone know what could be blocking ports in hoary? cant ping the computer or anything. cleaned iptables, no firewall running... [05:59] it keeps telling me the package mozilla-firefox is trying to overwrite firefox === Jemt [n=root@nat.kollegienet.dk] has left #ubuntu [] === gm78 [n=ryan_mcg@S01060004e28f5eac.cg.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu [] [05:59] But I have a raid to initialize... bye now [05:59] farid: "gimp filename" should do it [05:59] farid: keep in mind that there are ~17,000 package for ubuntu. The chance of you needing to compile your own is small [05:59] goo_: lol, too right === mae [n=mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:00] tritium: after using ubuntu for 3 days, I missed xv [06:00] Jowi, gimp ; should that be with the full path (gimp \media\windows\documents and settings\ yada yada \my pictures\image.jpg) ? [06:00] tritium: thanks, I just tried it and it did not work on a copy of hoary.... === jcohen85 [n=jason@dhcp-129-64-160-38.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #ubuntu === Ruslan [i=rni@83.174.208.8] has joined #ubuntu [06:00] Elko: xv, wow, that's a blast from the past [06:00] tritium, the fact that it is supposed to work is a great comfort. [06:00] flint_: tried what? === mxpxpod [n=BryanFor@wuw-ojr3gmca.dybb.com] has joined #ubuntu === cousin_ub [n=cousin_u@d80-170-22-250.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu [06:01] farid: yes, i think it should be the full path of the file === Sevn [n=frank@216.79.147.254] has joined #ubuntu [06:01] Anyone use Cedega? === frank23 [n=frank@modemcable135.248-130-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu [06:01] farid: unless, the file is in your working directory === JDahl [n=joachim@ca-stmnca-cuda4-gen2t1-68.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === Steelingbox [n=Steeling@rrcs-24-227-62-138.se.biz.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:02] farid: in linux, replace "\" with "/" === soeeoi [n=^^lazkop@ip68-109-117-210.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu === soeeoi is now known as zeliss^ [06:02] flint_: what did you try that did not work? [06:02] Belutz, and I know that it's in my working directory when I have the path right before the # in the terminal window? [06:03] farid: yes, it suppose === AngryParsley_ is now known as AngryParsley [06:03] Jowi, Thanks for the info. :) And big thanks for all your help; I'll be reading the Wiki and return for questions. ;) [06:03] farid, you can always type 'pwd' in a terminal [06:03] I was wondering if I'll get lower-quality or worse frames in Counter STrike Source with Cedega. [06:03] Belutz, cheers. :) [06:03] Vs Windows [06:03] yes, pwd is good :) [06:03] hi JDahl [06:03] JDahl, great tip. :) [06:04] hi tritium [06:04] Wondering how I can get video to play inside firefox without installing mplayer [06:04] Can I connect to internet with this modem http://www.usr-emea.com/support/s-prod-template.asp?loc=russ&prod=oem#2974? === flabby [n=flabby@pool-71-111-161-143.ptldor.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:04] farid. one thing that is very useful in the terminal is tabcompletion. so instead of typing looooong filenames, try to type the beginning of the directory/filename and press . i need to be aaway for awhile now [06:05] where is the kernel source located? It's not in /usr/src/linux. [06:05] flabby: did you install a linux-source package? === Jowi is now known as Jowi_away [06:05] Jowi_away, thats great to know. Thanks for your effort! :) [06:05] tritium: nope [06:05] flabby: don't expect something that you did not install to be there ;) [06:05] tritium, I tried logging in to the cups adminstration panel as a sudoer. It does not appear to let me in. [06:05] wow, lots of updates in breezy today [06:06] flabby: Take a look at the output of "dpkg -L [kernel|linux] -source-" [06:06] flabby: Ah. And, as tritium suggests, install the source. === anti-net_ [n=greg@83.105.73.202] has joined #ubuntu [06:06] flint_: oh, localhost:631? That's disabled by default === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has left #ubuntu ["--out"] [06:06] trtium is there an apt-get command that I can use? [06:06] flabby: yes, do you want the source to the kernel you're running? === Xareum [n=xareum@cm-83-97-209-98.telecable.es] has joined #ubuntu [06:07] flabby: sudo apt-get install linux-source-`uname -r`, if your answer is yes [06:07] tritium no, I used the machine name explicitly, I keep a host table. If localhost is disabled by default, how do you to printer administration? [06:07] tritium: probably, i really don't know. I try to install the alsa driver and it want a path for the kernel source when i run ./configure [06:07] flabby: keep in mind if you're compiling a module or something similar, you really only need linux-headers-`uname -r` [06:08] Man i have bad grammer lol [06:08] flint_: typically through the gnome print tool [06:08] flabby: you only need the headers, then [06:08] tritium: alsa headers? === mxpxpod is now known as mx|gone [06:09] flabby .h -files [06:09] flabby: no, kernel headers (in linux-headers-`uname -r`) === nubbe [n=kublai@c-a32970d5.031-17-67626713.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #ubuntu === RuffianSoldier [i=user@cpe-24-209-106-36.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:09] tritium gotcha, i will try that. thanks... === bernd [n=bernd@arcturus.physik.uni-konstanz.de] has joined #ubuntu === RuffianSoldier [i=user@cpe-24-209-106-36.woh.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu [] === Steelingbox [n=Steeling@rrcs-24-227-62-138.se.biz.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === pw [n=pw@ip182-76-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu === Ruslan [i=rni@83.174.208.8] has left #ubuntu [] === beyond is now known as beyond-rango === StoneTable [n=stone@equinix.ord.scnet.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:10] Does ubuntu have an msn client? [06:10] yes [06:10] It come with GAIM [06:11] hello, I copy the source.list with the backports sources from the unoficial guide but when i search with apt-cache serach w32codecs, this isn't. What happen? Sorry for my english === xophEr [n=xopher@a84-231-146-15.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu === dnuos [n=dnuos@82.52.15.105] has joined #ubuntu === bbwolf [n=rr@203.115.130.122] has joined #ubuntu [06:11] pw, I thought GAIM was AIM only. I'll try that :) Thanks [06:11] Xareum: w32codecs not available anymore in ubuntu repositories [06:11] So would my configure command be something like: ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-kernel=`uname -r` ? [06:11] it has like 7 lients [06:11] farid, it has several, but gaim is probably the most popular. There is also amsn which looks and feels very similar to MSN [06:11] farid: there is also amsn [06:12] Belutz, ok thanks, I have to use unoficial repositories? [06:12] gaim is better, imho === albacker_ [n=eni@217.24.240.8] has joined #ubuntu === Deserir [n=green_dr@226gis182.gulftel.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:12] !tell Xareum about w32codecs === AngryParsley [n=AngryPar@ool-457619d7.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:12] i think :) [06:12] thanks ;) === brodmann [n=brodmann@64.139.247.116] has joined #ubuntu [06:13] yup, read what ubotu told you :) [06:13] hey, i'm using 5.04, but when i install ati drivers, x system won't work [06:13] brodmann: ubuntu packages for fglrx? [06:13] JDahl, I guess amsn requires extra effort? downloading and installing [06:14] farid, I dont think so (it might be in universe, though) [06:14] brodmann: there's a step by step method in the ubuntu forums === jonarnar [n=jona@mailgate.xversal.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:14] JDahl, universe? === minholi [n=minholi@200.138.91.75] has joined #ubuntu [06:14] farid, but I also think that gaim is the best IM client for linux [06:14] brodmann: please tell me you followed the wiki instructions, and used ubuntu packages... [06:14] !tell farid about repos [06:14] yes === k-0tik [n=k-0tik@dpc67142105197.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:14] JDahl: what about sim icq? === eliphas_ [n=eliphas_@host-84-9-255-148.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:14] !info amsn [06:14] amsn: (An MSN messenger written in tcl), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.94-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1946 kB, Installed size: 6976 kB [06:14] !ati [06:14] I heard ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx [06:14] those ones? === lucaas [n=LMX@h6n1c1o1124.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:15] othernoob, I dont know that package [06:15] i have to use the hoaryhedgehog binaryhowto [06:15] right [06:15] in what way does that not work for you, brodmann ? [06:15] JDahl: i find that it's superior in many ways === Dalkus [n=David@81-86-159-34.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #ubuntu === Frafra [n=Frafra@d81-211-212-81.cust.tele2.it] has left #ubuntu [] [06:16] well, when ubuntu restarts, it says the gdm settings need to be corrected [06:16] the x system won't start [06:16] brodmann: check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and /var/log/Xorg.0.log [06:16] tritium: i was referring to this post http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32495 but maybe that post ubotu just said is more better === stevee [n=stevee@82-41-77-3.cable.ubr10.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu [] [06:17] is there any way to read a webpage with the xserver turned off? [06:17] Belutz: not sure about the forums, I always advise the wiki page. Thanks for the info :) [06:17] tritium: yup, i always read the wiki first, but sometimes the forums is more helpfull [06:18] Leshrac: try links [06:18] lynx, thanks [06:18] Belutz: please feel free to improve the wiki where you can [06:18] need to free up some space on the computer rid of gnome etc. apt-get remove ubuntu-destop telling me it will only free up 32mb.. seems like it should free up more than that [06:18] tritium: will do :) === xagoln [n=ash@146.101.247.18] has joined #ubuntu [06:18] thanks, Belutz === brind1 [n=chris@ppp103-182.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:19] corvid: apt-get remove gnome* ? [06:19] tritium: don't thank me, it's what communities are for :) === charles [n=charles@acs-24-144-198-187.zoominternet.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:19] im trying to play some videos, but whatever video im trying to open (mpeg, avi, asf) totem complains about missing plugins... but cant find any plugins for totem in the package manager... what should i do? [06:19] Ok. So I have done some research, and I have come to the conclusion that differs between upper and lower case. [06:19] yep :) === Jowi_away is now known as Jowi [06:19] g0rd0n: totem-xine works better for me, also: [06:19] farid: *nix system is case sensitive :) [06:19] how do I get my display over 1024 x 768 ? [06:19] !tell g0rd0n about w32codecs [06:20] !tell me about vesa [06:20] mon's favorite ;) [06:20] Belutz, itll take some time to get used to that. ;) === atob [n=atob@host81-129-164-179.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:20] tritium, ok, i'll start from the beginning, when i run the code, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx, i get couldn't find that package [06:20] i learned new tricks today ;) === jcohen85 [n=jason@dhcp-129-64-160-38.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #ubuntu [06:20] farid: you'll get used to it, i promise [06:20] :D [06:20] methinks we should teach ubotu about vesa [06:20] brodmann: that's a bad start, yeah. You need to get that installed [06:20] oh [06:20] ah, ooooohhh, gosh [06:21] stupid [06:21] can anyone give me the quick run-down on getting X11 working with vesa? [06:21] i might have problems because im using amd64 then :P [06:21] Archosaurs are awesome. [06:21] i'll be right back [06:21] thanks for the info [06:21] hi anyone , display at 1280 x 1024 [06:21] brind1: explain your problem :) [06:21] Who here likes archosaurs? === tritium directs the archosaurs to #ubuntu-offtopic === oTaCuFV [n=zir-vede@81.215.80.17] has joined #ubuntu === oTaCuFV [n=zir-vede@81.215.80.17] has left #ubuntu [] [06:22] Fair enough. [06:22] I can edit the xorg.conf and put in the display modes of 1280 x 1024 but I cannot get that mode to display only as high as 1024 x 768 [06:22] atob: talk them up to your heart's content there :) [06:22] brind1: you sure your hardware supports it? === Janx [n=janx@cpe-24-59-207-214.twcny.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:22] brodmann: i recommend using proprietary drivers from ati if you're using 3D a lot, if not, xorg-driver-fglrx is fine [06:22] brind1: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log [06:22] yup I run winXP at that res 85Hz [06:22] tritium, where do i find that package? [06:23] brind1: easiest way is to run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" [06:23] xorg [06:23] brind1: what videocard do you have with what driver? [06:23] good advice, Jowi :) [06:23] !resolutions [06:23] Jowi: Did you get hit by a windmill? [06:23] !fixresolution [06:23] Jowi: I don't know [06:23] what IS the command again? === hazmat_ [n=hazmat@177.turbo.at] has joined #ubuntu === janpol^^ [n=michael_@81.215.80.17] has joined #ubuntu === janpol^^ [n=michael_@81.215.80.17] has left #ubuntu [] [06:23] !resolution [06:23] well, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto [06:23] ? [06:23] :) [06:24] haha === ens_25 [n=zir-vede@81.215.80.17] has joined #ubuntu [06:24] !info xorg-driver-fglrx [06:24] xorg-driver-fglrx: (Video driver for ATI graphics accelerators), section restricted/misc, is optional. Version: 6.8.0-8.8.25-0ubuntu11 (hoary), Packaged size: 3110 kB, Installed size: 9940 kB === ens_25 is now known as weLLLcome [06:24] i think ubotu is my new best friend :p [06:24] it's in restricted, brodmann. See above [06:24] anyone seen this before: VESA(0): cannot read V_BIOS [06:24] that's what happens when I try to use vesa driver [06:24] xagoln: maybe google has... === albacker_ is now known as albacker === weLLLcome [n=zir-vede@81.215.80.17] has left #ubuntu [] === Acelya_ [n=michael_@81.215.80.17] has joined #ubuntu === Acelya_ is now known as lwv--- === lwv--- is now known as iXXie === iXXie [n=michael_@81.215.80.17] has left #ubuntu [] [06:26] mon unfortunately I can't get X up to use google [06:26] mon guess I can struggle with lynx tho [06:27] xagoln: please be sure to try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg === graabein [n=ubuntu@234.84-48-54.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:27] xagoln: ah i've had similar problems with my ati back in the ol' days :) [06:27] hi guys [06:27] ati? Do you need fglrx, xagoln ? [06:27] xagoln: links is a better btw === kitsch [n=jin@84-217-31-217.tn.glocalnet.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:27] tritium: is it ok to write in wiki about proprietary drivers? === atob [n=atob@host81-129-164-179.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === jcohen85 [n=jason@dhcp-129-64-160-38.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #ubuntu [06:27] tritium: dont think so, it's just that i had problems with 'm === lyndy [n=lyndy@cpc1-seve3-4-0-cust74.popl.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:28] thanks tritium - already tried that [06:28] it's a dualhead system (Intel 815 and ATI Rage Pro XL) [06:28] xagoln: what chipset is it? === jorgp2 [n=jorgp@bnet-dial-108.bartnet.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:28] ah [06:28] xagoln: there are drivers for those i think. no need to use vesa [06:28] Belutz: well, we already do. Please don't suggest using drivers off of ati's or nvidia's site, though. Ubuntu packages should be used [06:28] i815 is the primary (on mainboard) === brodmann [n=brodmann@64.139.247.116] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:28] yeah when I use the i810 driver the system locks solid [06:29] tritium: i see, ok [06:29] xagoln: anything in the logs? [06:29] firefox 1.0.7 is broked? [06:29] Belutz: was that what you wanted to do? [06:29] tritium: yes [06:29] minholi: how it is broke? === regeya [n=shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:29] after the upgrade i was able to run it only by using 'sudo mozilla-firefox' [06:30] xagoln: i think the i810 driver should just work. maybe you could file a bugreport then === hussam [n=hussam@194.126.31.19] has joined #ubuntu [06:30] Belutz: if you did, someone would surely remove it [06:30] minholi: maybe you should delete/move your profile === gdiebel [n=gdiebel@66-168-30-219.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === brodmann [n=brodmann@64.139.247.116] has joined #ubuntu === eliphas_ [n=eliphas_@host-84-9-255-148.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:30] tritium: i haven't write it yet, i ask you first :) [06:30] any other way to find out the scsi id of a burner than using cdrecord -scanbus? [06:31] minholi: my firefox 1.0.7 runs fine [06:31] Belutz, mon, first it conflicts with firefox package (the new package was named mozilla-firefox) [06:31] othernoob: if it's your system, you kinda should know :) [06:31] minholi: where did you get a "firefox" package? [06:31] othernoob, if it's an IDE burner, it has none and should not have any [06:31] othernoob: you can specify dev=ATAPI:, for one thing === niquil [n=niq@echoradio.org] has joined #ubuntu [06:31] nothing jumping out at mehmm looks like it's a problem with X fonts [06:32] dev=/dev/hdc (or whatever) [06:32] I'm getting timeouts on archive.ubuntu.com when it resolves to 82.211.81.182, It timeouts every single time. 82.211.81.151 is still however accessible. === malv [n=macca@pool-71-103-3-191.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:32] okay.. [06:32] what could be the problem? [06:32] mon, from update service [06:32] minholi: maybe you could remove it first, and re-install ? [06:32] firefox issue, right? === treitter [n=treitter@66-214-200-181.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu === stpere [n=stpere@ts1-168.f1234.ts.globetrotter.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:32] malv, yes === ^DodGeR^ [n=DodGeR@rrba-146-89-204.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu [06:32] minholi: make sure you remove completely [06:32] i can't even rollback and start it now [06:32] hey there [06:33] tritium, there used to be a document in wiki that would take me step by step on how to download the package and install all that stuff [06:33] do you have any idea where that is? [06:33] Belutz, I remove the firefox package with --purge [06:33] <^DodGeR^> TGIF !! hello all [06:33] brodmann: I gave you the url earlier, right? [06:33] !tell brodmann about ati [06:33] hmmm === eruin [n=eruin@129.80-202-105.nextgentel.com] has joined #ubuntu === Kaos`mm-Ezekiel is now known as dankine`offline === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu === desplesda [n=desplesd@CPE-143-238-234-78.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === dankine`offline is now known as Kaos`mm-Ezekiel === Fonzie2 [n=fonzie2@dyn15-68.adsl.mpynet.fi] has joined #ubuntu [06:34] Belutz, and I already move my profile (.mozilla) to (.mozilla.bak)... the same think happens.. [06:35] brodmann: you should already have the resricted repository setup in /etc/apt/sources.list [06:35] if not, ask ubotu about repositories === Muiske [n=muiske01@haar029.athome222.wau.nl] has joined #ubuntu [06:35] some people on ubuntuforums.org got the same problem after upgrade [06:36] firefox just don't run [06:36] anybody else getting timeouts from archive.ubuntu.com ? === ugly_nake_guy [i=yang1193@221.239.132.195] has joined #ubuntu [06:36] Hi - I want to run a 1-line command after every time this laptop boots. Is /etc/init.d/skeleton the best place to start? === MikkelK [n=mikkelk@cpe.atm0-0-0-126199.0x3ef3eb45.bynxx2.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu [06:36] minholi: well it still is relatively new and untested software. it's a risk you take [06:36] minholi: try this firefox -ProfileManager to run the profile manager and create a new one === ugly_nake_guy [i=yang1193@221.239.132.195] has left #ubuntu [] === ugly_nake_guy [i=yang1193@221.239.132.195] has joined #ubuntu === prabu^ [n=prabu@219.95.250.89] has joined #ubuntu [06:37] Hello al [06:37] i have a slight problem i would like to ask abt === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-2-161.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:37] has anyone got the problem where downloading / uploading stalls suddenly during transfer === brind1 [n=chris@ppp103-182.lns1.bne1.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:38] Belutz, it works on the first load, after the profile creation, and don't load up after close. [06:38] prabu^: connections problem? [06:38] minholi: are you on breezy or hoary? [06:38] got a question for the channel. anyone have XMRADIO running on their ubuntu system ? [06:38] Belutz, hoary [06:38] i have no idea :S === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-83-29.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu [06:38] could it be a OS related problem ? [06:39] or hardware related === Luca` [n=thejesaj@pD9505863.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu [06:39] might be my NIC [06:39] is ther a way to check if the NIC is fsckin up [06:39] minholi: are you familiar with aptitude ? [06:39] Belutz, a little === vrln [n=vrln@a80-186-14-196.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu === nailbiter [i=foobar@c211-28-131-6.eburwd3.vic.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu [] [06:40] minholi: go to aptitude [06:40] try pinging the apt server 10 times for example [06:40] ehm... what was the ubuntu universe motd channel here on freenode again? === jiGpkaue [n=cbeaoaei@81.12.254.127] has joined #ubuntu === jiGpkaue [n=cbeaoaei@81.12.254.127] has left #ubuntu [] [06:40] minholi: search for mozilla-firefox and press shift+_ === ^^SeDeF^^ [n=efe24@80.97.16.51] has joined #ubuntu [06:40] ok [06:40] minholi: it will remove the firefox [06:40] vrln: you mean MOTU? === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-167-160.bas503.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu === ^^SeDeF^^ [n=efe24@80.97.16.51] has left #ubuntu [] [06:41] minholi: after that, try to delete the firefox directory in your home directory, and reinstall the mozilla-firefox [06:41] vrln: ubuntu-motu === uiFuCIZouo [n=cbeaoaei@81.12.254.127] has joined #ubuntu === icewt [n=icewt@MLIII.tun.saunalahti.fi] has joined #ubuntu === tricomax [n=tricomax@164.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu === Janx [n=janx@cpe-24-59-207-214.twcny.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu ["Leaving"] === uiFuCIZouo [n=cbeaoaei@81.12.254.127] has left #ubuntu [] [06:41] yup, thanks :) === gigaclon [n=gigaclon@68.191.5.12] has joined #ubuntu === Deansweb2004 [n=dean@host81-151-217-42.range81-151.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu === jcohen85 [n=jason@dhcp-129-64-160-38.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #ubuntu === ooiNbumx [n=ankbjeee@d80-170-72-222.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu === ooiNbumx [n=ankbjeee@d80-170-72-222.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu [] [06:43] hi all === Gpejii [n=cbeaoaei@81.12.254.127] has joined #ubuntu === Gpejii [n=cbeaoaei@81.12.254.127] has left #ubuntu [] === gizmosis [n=hashhead@adsl-213-249-237-218.karoo.KCOM.COM] has joined #ubuntu === tBNiqj [n=ankbjeee@d80-170-72-222.cust.tele2.fr] has joined #ubuntu [06:44] hello === tBNiqj [n=ankbjeee@d80-170-72-222.cust.tele2.fr] has left #ubuntu [] === shaoqi [n=shaoqi@cm39.epsilon122.maxonline.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu [06:45] you know a howto's site to install quake 3 ? === oeepeY [n=osoaeg@80.97.247.90] has joined #ubuntu [06:45] !ops [06:45] ops is, like, totally, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth [06:45] ompaul: hm? [06:45] +r ? [06:45] spambots [06:45] cousin_ub: basicly you need a installer (quake3.com i think) and the cd === mode/#ubuntu [+o apokryphos] by ChanServ [06:45] apokryphos, :) === mode/#ubuntu [+r] by apokryphos [06:45] apokryphos, didn't see ya there === oeepeY [n=osoaeg@80.97.247.90] has left #ubuntu [] [06:46] is there a yum/pacman/rpm update web thingy [06:46] =) [06:46] no mon on the src [06:46] gizmosis: better: apt-get ;) [06:46] hi. i installed ubuntu on my 2nd hdd, how do i access files on my first hdd? I don't see it anywhere using file browser. thanks [06:46] kewl [06:46] i love debian [06:46] gizmosis: apt with .debs [06:46] quake 3 is free now [06:46] cousin_ub: you want to build it from source? [06:46] cousin_ub: aah. no idea then :) [06:46] where do i get quake 3 === prower [n=prower@wiley-440-112565.roadrunner.nf.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:47] shaoqi: well, there is a FAQ in 'uboto' or on the Wiki IIRC about accessing ''foreign'' partitions. [06:47] gizmosis: synaptic if you like GUI programs [06:47] blissex, i don't quite get it. i'm very new to ubuntu.. just installed.. [06:47] cousin_ub: also only the source is free. you still need artwork (eg. weapons, sound, maps, etc) [06:47] hi === beyond-rango is now known as beyond [06:47] blissex, mind guiding me more? [06:47] shaoqi: usually Ubuntu will have detected those ''foreign'' partitions automagically and added them to '/etc/fstab' [06:48] shaoqi: which method of file browsing are you using? [06:48] ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/source/quake3-1.32b-source.zip [06:48] what method? the normal one? [06:48] ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/source/quake3-1.32b-source.zip [06:48] shaoqi: as in: command line , Nautilus, Konqueror, whatever... [06:49] shaoqi: for example, are you familiar with the 'mount' command? [06:49] Blissex: assume nautilus [06:49] argh, I dont use Nautilus :-) [06:49] Blissex: i always assume if a user doesn't know, it's probably nautilus ;) [06:49] what's nautilus? sorry guys. i'm really new =x [06:49] brb guys [06:50] mon: thats a good assumption, just checking... [06:50] shaoqi: you use a graphical filebrowser with green/brownish maps right? [06:50] Blissex: ofcourse :) [06:50] <^DodGeR^> nautilus is like explorer on windows shaoqi === P229 [n=P229@pool-138-88-132-171.esr.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu [06:50] shaoqi: Nautilus is the GNOME file manager, as the other guys are saying. [06:50] there is *no* factoid for Nautilus? Come on guys ;-) [06:50] mon, it's file browser? [06:50] Blissex: i think ubotu can help in this case. not sure what command though :) [06:51] shaoqi: and Nautilus has modules that do practically everything relating to files etc., including partitions and remote file access. [06:51] i see.. [06:51] mon: yes, I remember it has a factoid, but I can;t remember the name [06:51] anyone here see the "gay duck" review of ubuntu? anyone considering dropping the ubuntu codename scheme? [06:51] !partitions [06:51] NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Blissex === mtl [n=mtl@a80-186-193-86.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu [06:51] !filesystems [06:51] Blissex: Are you on ritalin? [06:51] !mounting [06:51] NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, mon [06:51] !mount [06:51] hmm... mount is the command to add partitions to your filesystem - for full instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive. For mounting windows partitions, see !windowsdrives [06:51] yay [06:51] got it! [06:51] !windowsdrives [06:51] windowsdrives is, like, totally, Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows partions mount automatically [06:52] ah yeah, great script that [06:52] shaoqi: so, look at both of the links above. [06:52] [06:52] ok thanks:) [06:52] me actually uses Kubuntu or something like that. [06:52] list #kubuntu [06:52] oops === Flash13 [n=Flash13@unaffiliated/flashbot] has joined #ubuntu [06:53] shaoqi: I just started Nautilus BTW. Look at the 'Places' meny and select 'Computer'. [06:53] shaoqi: if you are lucky all your partitions will be listed there. [06:54] i'm not lucky enuff [06:54] Morning. [06:54] i don't see it [06:54] shaoqi: what dont you see? [06:54] let me try to mount my other hdd [06:54] no idea === dr_willis [n=willis@12-222-81-183.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu === Whistler [n=admin@85.206.161.186] has joined #ubuntu [06:54] shaoqi: try this script http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab [06:54] hello everybody [06:55] I'm having a problem where I'm trying to apt-get udist-upgrade to breezy and it just sorta hangs when it gets to "Preconfiguring packages" [06:55] -_- I don't suppose somebody could walk me though mounting an NTSF partition could they please [06:55] E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base [06:55] mon, trying now.. :) [06:55] i get this error then i try to update my system [06:55] Flash13: smae as for shaoqi... [06:55] i am on breezy [06:55] Flash13: try "wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab" and then running it with ./winmac_fstab [06:55] any ideas? [06:55] Any thoughts on what to do about this? [06:56] how do i get to the command line? [06:56] puff: you should not be trying to upgrade to Breezy yet... [06:56] mon, Blissex, will give it ago, thanks :) [06:56] Blissex: why do you say that? [06:56] shaoqi: right click on your desktop and select Open terminal [06:56] thanks.. [06:56] digitize: because it is not yet quite all right, and involves some dangerous ABI transitions. [06:56] perhaps, i suppose it's not completely suggested [06:56] but i upgraded with no problems [06:57] and i suppose, it's only a small bit more until the official release is out [06:57] digitize: it all depends if you feel lucky :-). And the moment at which you do the upgrade. [06:57] :) [06:57] Blissex: Okay. [06:57] any ideas? [06:58] Whistler: you sure it doesn't just take a long time? [06:58] Whistler: I think it's a known problem [06:58] how do i execute the script? cant seems to work [06:58] shaoqi: sh