[12:02] I have no knowledge of PASCAL never mind the GNU flavour [12:03] i have pascal on windows [12:03] but i cannot get pascal to work on linux === lwells [n=lwells@ip68-228-77-244.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:03] btw i am first time at this irc chat [12:04] here are those who has linux-kubuntu? [12:04] kubuntu users [12:04] IRC's great, nothing will happen for hours, then suddenly 10 conversations will start at once at huge speed... [12:04] yes [12:04] sometimes ;o) [12:05] and are here any peoples who are so kind that they give advices? [12:05] czert: just ask. don't ask to ask. [12:06] heh [12:06] okey === dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-244-28.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:07] czert: consider reading these suggestions on how to ask questions: http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 [12:07] i add GNU pascal, it works but only if i type to console gpc-2.1-3.2 [12:07] so i need to make some run file [12:09] ok thanx now i know how to ask questions [12:10] but i still dont know what to do with gnu pascal to work === rrichie [n=rrichie@vfc69-1-82-233-45-250.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:10] czert: have you installed the "gpc" package. it will install the default gpc package and for sure create a "gpc" shortcut. === rdw200169 [n=randy@cpe-24-242-36-216.hot.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu [12:10] "sudo apt-get install gpc" [12:11] if some of you are interested, i'm building all kde 3.5b1 packages for breezy [12:11] i allredy done this [12:11] but now how to run it [12:11] by typing in console gpc-2.1-3.2 [12:11] try entering "gpg" and press TAB. [12:12] you could create a alias or a simple bash script to wrap it, if there is no shortcut. [12:12] how do i extend my desktop to my other monitor (2 crts) === KingBahamut [n=bahamut@c-24-98-229-28.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:12] can i make something to run it without console? [12:12] like turbo pascal in windows [12:13] or is there any distribution of pascal that is similar as turbopascal and it works in kubuntu? [12:14] czert: apt-get install dosemu-freedos ? [12:14] now i dont understand [12:15] sory [12:15] can you explain it? [12:15] czert: there is sort of. [12:15] freepascal [12:15] czert: ah.. you're looking for an IDE? [12:16] czert: yes... In general to answer questions like that do 'apt-cache search pascal' or with another keyword. [12:16] yeah [12:16] blueyed thats something for me [12:17] czert: sorry, no idea. You might want to try KDevelop. [12:18] ah shame [12:18] but thanx anyway [12:20] how to write source code there? [12:20] in console? [12:20] i still dont understand === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu [12:21] when i type gpc-2.1-3.2 then it just show help and available commands === incubii [i=incubii@cor9-ppp241.hay.dialup.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu === sorush20 [n=sorush20@82-43-184-143.cable.ubr07.newm.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #kubuntu [] [12:24] czert: you would pass the filenames to compile I guess. [12:25] You would include gpc as compiler in your IDE (KDevelop/Eclipse/jEdit/scite/vi/whatever) [12:25] blueyed where are you from? as you can see i am not very good in english [12:26] czert: me neither, germany. [12:26] damn [12:26] i am from slovakia [12:26] ok [12:26] so what should i do? [12:27] I'd use my beloved jEdit and try to plug gpc in there. [12:27] what to do with that kdevelop/eclipse.... [12:28] install. Try KDevelop first. apt-get. [12:28] Does Ubuntu use it's own KDE packages? I would file a bug on bugs.kde.org to include Ubuntu/Kubuntu as "binary distribution" then, if it differs "enough" from Debian - what I think. [12:28] i use debian packages [12:28] in Kubuntu? === Bicchi [n=AB@adsl-065-006-167-199.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:29] because kubuntu is based on debian, no? [12:29] czert: the long question above was not related to your problem. === troy [n=troy@wnpgmb01dc2-28-251.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:29] czert: yes, it's based on, but different/patched I believe. [12:30] czert: debian packages in kubuntu? [12:30] bad idea; they vary a lot now (it's recommended that you never really use marillat, for example) [12:30] how do i extend my desktop to my other monitor (2 crts)? [12:30] wha? [12:30] what? [12:30] apokryphos: so I'll file a bug on bugs.kde.org that they include Kubuntu/Ubuntu in the binary dist list, yes? [12:31] so wich packages should i use? [12:31] blueyed: what? [12:31] czert: for what exactly? [12:31] pascal [12:31] i need to get pascal in linux [12:32] if it's not in [k] ubuntu's repositories, it's better to compile, generally [12:32] apokryphos: for filing bugs and saying what distribution you are using. [12:32] http://bugs.kde.org/wizard.cgi [12:32] and it will be great if i is something like turbopascal in windows [12:32] blueyed: just say Linux, and in the bug report mention Kubuntu [12:33] don't actually know why Kubuntu doesn't show up there yet [12:33] apokryphos: sure, yes, exactly. I'll hint them.. :) === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.231.79] has joined #kubuntu [12:35] it's not like Kubuntu is *that* new, or unpopular; weird that it's not there yet :P [12:35] czert: there is a pascal->c converter that will let you compile (I think) [12:36] troy thanx but can you give me instrucitons how to install and run it [12:36] i would be thankful [12:40] czert: I'm not sure, haven't tried it in an age (since probably redhat 5 or such) -- the program is called 'p2c' though, if I recall === troy_ [n=troy@wnpgmb01dc2-28-251.dynamic.mts.net] has joined #kubuntu [12:43] can someone help me set up dual monitors? :) [12:44] oh that's nice [12:44] 11.45 on friday night [12:44] I am a bit pished [12:44] and one of the main servers at work drops offthe network === sophie_ [n=sophie@ip062.195-51-69.sogetel.net] has joined #kubuntu === sophie_ [n=sophie@ip062.195-51-69.Sogetel.net] has joined #kubuntu === RogueJediX [n=roguejed@BSN-77-186-162.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu === Mirussa [n=mirussa@c-67-166-123-104.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu === Octane [n=octane@dsl092-100-149.nyc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu === rrichie [n=rrichie@vfc69-1-82-233-45-250.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:02] has anyone tried to build a .deb package of kdebindings? === narg [n=narg@dsl-63-173-190-171.tcq.net] has joined #kubuntu === Guadiana_Jones [n=chatzill@62.14.125.29] has joined #kubuntu === Xorlev [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu [01:06] This might sound like a very dumb question but: I've been reading about Massachussets switching to OpenDocument format and I was wondering if KWord is capable of saving files in that format === _nyn_ [n=_nyn_@l05m-212-194-120-39.d4.club-internet.fr] has joined #kubuntu === zxsykco [n=zxsykco@adsl-68-75-163-13.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === NamShub [n=mathieu@toronto-HSE-ppp4026142.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [01:12] i upgraded to 3.5beta1 but it messed my system up (nothing works anymore) [01:12] I cant revert to 3.4.2... [01:12] (removing the 3.5 entry from my sources.list dont work...) [01:13] NamShub: Try installing Gnome, then switch to Gnome, then uninstall KDE 3.5 beta1 === bumperiano [n=bumperia@81-203-39-60.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu === nalioth [n=Apple@pdpc/supporter/bronze/nalioth] has joined #kubuntu [01:14] RogueJediX: I tried uninstalling from the shell (without kde running) [01:14] And no dice? === bazan [n=bazan@APlessis-Bouchard-152-1-12-180.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu [01:14] well actually, the problem is i dont know how to "downgrade" heh [01:14] Well, from the console, neither do I. Synaptic has that option, though [01:15] oh, I should uninstall KDE completely and then reinstall..? [01:15] wouldnt I lose my settings? [01:15] Don't think so. They're stored in $HOME/.kde === zxsykco [n=zxsykco@adsl-68-75-163-13.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:18] from removing kde you lose no settings, no [01:18] never seen that downgrade option in synaptic though :/ [01:19] Yeah, I might be wrong [01:19] I've been using the console for quite some time now [01:19] RogueJediX: console cowboys are sexy [01:20] but how would I remove it [01:20] ? [01:20] I dont have kde nor kubuntu-desktop... I'm not gonna update every package by hand... === zxsykco [n=zxsykco@adsl-68-75-163-13.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:21] sudo apt-get remove kde-core? I think that's it. Better check with someone else, though === zxsykco [n=zxsykco@adsl-68-75-163-13.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:22] not installed either === zxsykco [n=zxsykco@adsl-68-75-163-13.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:24] Quite frankly, I think I'm way over my head on this one, sorry :/ [01:25] I've never actually had to remove KDE [01:25] kde-base [01:26] Whoa, why are you removing KDE? [01:26] kde-base. I have to write that down somewhere. Thanks, nalioth [01:27] RogueJediX: it's kde-base or kdebase (/me has about 6 desktop manglers on his box) [01:28] Good to know [01:28] I assume it's the same for gnome and others as well? [01:28] gnomebase, etc? === zxsykco [n=zxsykco@adsl-68-75-163-13.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:29] RogueJediX: no [01:29] RogueJediX: synaptic will answer lots of your questions [01:29] I should've figured x_x [01:30] Yeah, I just opened it === sophie_ [n=sophie@ip062.195-51-69.sogetel.net] has joined #kubuntu [01:31] libgnome looks like it could take a lot of things down with it === dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-244-28.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu === dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-244-28.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu === zxsykco [n=zxsykco@adsl-68-75-163-13.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === dell500 [n=dell500@12-216-244-28.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu === zxsykco [n=zxsykco@adsl-68-75-163-13.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === alexandros [n=alexandr@63.245.118.115] has joined #kubuntu === Xorlev_ [n=xorlev@unaffiliated/xorlev] has joined #kubuntu === xmav [n=crashed@adsl-69-208-134-19.dsl.ipltin.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu === hon [n=hon@69.158.172.113] has joined #kubuntu === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.231.79] has joined #kubuntu === sproingie [i=foobar@64-121-2-59.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu === Bicchi [n=AB@adsl-065-006-167-199.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:24] <_blake> what is the command to search repositories? isnt it apt-cache-search? [02:24] nearly [02:24] apt-cache search [02:24] <_blake> ah, thanks === `TUX` [n=princosc@ppp-217-133-31-196.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu === `TUX` [n=princosc@ppp-217-133-31-196.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has left #kubuntu ["Hello,] [02:27] <_blake> man, i swear i could apt-cache search all day :) [02:27] <_blake> i wish i would have known this a long time ago === aseigo_home is now known as aseigo [02:36] =) === _Foodcoman_ [n=berickso@c-24-20-116-33.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:36] _blake: it's easier with synaptic [02:37] <_Foodcoman_> x-common giving most people problems with X11/fonts? [02:38] foodcoman: yes, it can be overcome (at risk of breaking your box) [02:38] <_Foodcoman_> nalioth: Thanks for the heads up. Just be patient eh? [02:38] yes patience [02:38] <_blake> nalioth, i just like the knosole :/ [02:39] _blake: the console is your friend [02:39] <_Foodcoman_> nalioth: I have to say I have been really happy that upgrading day after day since the 5.10 preview hasnt hosed me! =) [02:40] <_blake> does anyone know how to setup a different default file manager? Konqueror is causing some problems [02:40] <_blake> I looked throught the control panel but cant figure out how to make konqueror go away without uninstalling it [02:41] _blake: there are several file manglers you can use, just remove konqueror from your kicker and put the icon/link for whatever you want in it's place === mauricio [n=mauricio@201.135.55.194] has joined #kubuntu [02:42] _blake: what problems? [02:42] <_blake> what do you use? [02:42] Konqueror is perfect :D [02:42] <_blake> well it crashes sometimes when i try to open my home directory [02:42] _blake: none others are even half as good ;-) [02:42] _blake: hm [02:42] if you alt+f2 -> konqueror [02:43] (and run it directly like that).. do you get any crashes? === mauricio [n=mauricio@201.135.55.194] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [02:43] (and make sure you're in browser not file-manager mode) [02:43] <_blake> nope no crahes [02:43] apokryphos: it crashes on me, also [02:43] <_blake> but it happens every now and again [02:43] in both file-mangler and browser mode [02:43] nalioth: nope, it's all in your dreams. [02:43] <_blake> its the only program on my comp that crashes [02:44] <_blake> but its rare, so its not that big of a deal [02:44] nalioth: I know, random Konqueror crashes have been an issue for some [02:44] very annoying, and very hard to debug [02:44] <_blake> yes, and the KDE crash handler is very depressing to see [02:47] <_Foodcoman_> apokryphos: any way to edit the list in katapult to remove an item? [02:47] <_blake> nalioth, where is my 'kicker'? [02:48] <_blake> or what rather [02:48] <_Foodcoman_> _blake: Like windows Quick launch. [02:48] _blake: the kicker is the bar at the bottom with all your icons in it === hydrogen [n=hydrogen@londonderry-cuda2-68-171-243-203.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:49] _Foodcoman_: only an item, or a category (i.e. bookmarks?) === nxv__ [n=nxv_@dsl-084-056-098-076.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu [02:49] <_blake> so how would i remove konqueror from my kicker? [02:49] kicker is the kde panel [02:49] to remove an item from it, right-click [02:50] <_Foodcoman_> apokryphos: example I mistyped pptp-config ---> should have been pptpconfig... Now I would like to dump pptp-config. [02:51] _Foodcoman_: only an item, at the moment -- nope (unfortunately) [02:51] _blake: right click on it [02:51] <_Foodcoman_> Not important really, just curious! [02:51] boy oh boy, it is gettin wild here [02:51] <_Foodcoman_> Thank you. [02:51] welcome to fall, eh? (yesterday was the official first day of fall here) [02:52] <_Foodcoman_> Everyone wants features! =) They should test for the bugs eh? [02:53] <_blake> eh... i feel like an idiot... right click / remove items... but no knqueror === nalioth [n=Apple@pdpc/supporter/bronze/nalioth] has joined #kubuntu [02:54] <_blake> welcome back [02:54] power dropped offline here [02:54] <_blake> nalioth, i feel like an idiot... right click / remove items... but no knqueror === nalioth is sittin on the western edge of rita [02:55] _blake: the one that looks like a house === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.231.79] has joined #kubuntu [02:55] <_blake> I think i may have removed that a while back [02:56] _blake: any executable can be linked into your kicker [02:56] _blake: if you apt-cache search for 'file manglers' <<< but apokryphos is right. none are as polished as konqueror [02:57] <_blake> hmm [02:57] <_blake> ok, i will mess with it [02:57] <_blake> maybe if i upgraded to breezy... [02:58] maybe. but i think it's just a konqueror bug [02:59] nalioth: you still in houston [02:59] jsubl2: yes, i'm still sittin in my trailer [03:00] trailer sounds a little risky even for the north side of houston. was watchin cnn [03:00] <_blake> if i upgraded to breezy, would i have to reinstall vidcard drivers ? [03:00] _blake: not sure. it should use the ones you have [03:01] jsubl2: i'm not stayin, believe me [03:01] wise move [03:01] <_blake> because it was an absolute nightmare to configure my radeon [03:07] <_blake> how far inward is rita supposed to go before bleeding off? === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.231.79] has joined #kubuntu [03:13] anyone had success installing realplayer from a deb package? [03:18] hey guys whats wrong with kate in breezy? === Flying_Eagle [n=f_e@pD9536B15.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:19] communication error kate probably crashed [03:20] jmg: are you trying to sudo kate or something? [03:20] apokryphos: i did try (used to work) [03:20] but now i cant run kate at all [03:20] even without sudo [03:20] you shouldn't ever do that [03:20] what about when i need to edit a file as root [03:20] you can muck up your settings (as probably happened in this case) [03:21] !kdesu === jdef [n=jdefreit@cuscon3782.tstt.net.tt] has joined #kubuntu [03:21] Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files. [03:21] oh ok [03:21] kdesu huh [03:21] when is final release of kubuntu due out? [03:22] oct 13 [03:22] jmg: ls -l ~/.kde/share/config/katerc ...gives? === jarkom [n=jarkom@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has joined #kubuntu === sproingie [i=foobar@64-121-2-59.c3-0.sfrn-ubr8.sfrn.ca.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.187.244] has joined #kubuntu [03:27] apokryphos: -rw------- 1 tom tom 44 2005-09-23 12:08 /home/tom/.kde/share/config/katerc [03:27] hm, seems ok [03:28] yeah im paging thorugh the strace output trying to see what happened [03:28] ill run it under gdb [03:28] oh man [03:28] lol [03:28] no info whatsoever === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.231.79] has joined #kubuntu [03:30] hmm however [03:30] -rw------- 1 root root 26986 2005-09-24 13:02 katesyntaxhighlightingrc [03:30] one of the problems of root running ;) [03:30] I gotta shoot off to bed, but just chown your whole ~, should make it alright [03:31] apokryphos: suggestion - kubuntu should alias su kdesu [03:31] for konsole sessions at least [03:31] to prevent such silly stuff [03:31] sudo su [03:31] er [03:31] alias sudo kdesu :) [03:31] nah, because you don't want kdesu for non-gui stuff === ManLord [n=martin@220.80-202-255.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:32] but I can't explain anymore; off with me :D [03:32] stats p [03:32] hmm === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.231.79] has joined #kubuntu [03:34] bloody hell what is it with the chain of dependencies. in order to have kde, i have to have programs like ico and xbiff [03:34] since they're part of xbase-clients, which kdm depends on. piles of crap i'll never use === `Nomad [n=Bob@stjhnbsu67w-142167000083.nb.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu === _tron [n=tron@201.247.88.96] has joined #kubuntu === _tron [n=tron@201.247.88.96] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [03:40] oops: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x-common_1.08_all.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/X11/fonts', which is also in package xfonts-base === _david [n=david@12-222-70-46.client.insightBB.com] has joined #kubuntu [03:40] anyone else run into that? === Flying_Eagle [n=f_e@pD9536B15.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu ["Ciao."] === jcouture [n=jcouture@Quebec-HSE-ppp212861.qc.sympatico.ca] has joined #kubuntu [03:43] <_Foodcoman_> Most are getting it. Patience. [03:43] <_Foodcoman_> The cure may be worse than wait. === _blake [n=blake@70.177.30.93] has joined #kubuntu === bored2k [n=reb@168samana87.codetel.net.do] has joined #kubuntu === bored2k [n=reb@168samana87.codetel.net.do] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving."] [03:47] as long as upstream knows === flores [n=flores@201.22.205.142.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #kubuntu [03:51] <_blake> Error opening pcap: bind: Network is down [03:51] <_blake> i cant get around this error [03:52] <_blake> libpcap is installed, all module dependenices are there [03:52] <_blake> any ideas? === Cem_ [n=cem0r@dsl-084-060-131-191.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu === hydrogen [n=hydrogen@londonderry-cuda2-68-171-243-203.lndnnh.adelphia.net] has joined #kubuntu [03:55] god-zero: this prolly aint the right thing to do but i forced it in. has seem to cause any problems [03:55] has not seemed to rather [03:55] hrm [03:55] having comp hang while upgrading kernel = an adventurte [03:56] god-zero: i think it was an errror in the package.. seemed to be having trouble updating 1 file === cult [n=cult@201-0-97-86.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.231.79] has joined #kubuntu === nybble [n=nybble@d36-24-214.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu === N17R0 [n=w00t@unaffiliated/n17r0] has joined #kubuntu === dsae [n=kvirc@12-222-70-46.client.insightBB.com] has joined #kubuntu === jdef [n=jdefreit@cuscon3782.tstt.net.tt] has left #kubuntu [] === ManLord [n=martin@220.80-202-255.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu === pc09 [n=pc09@203.177.247.139] has joined #kubuntu [04:10] jsubl2: ya.. looked minor, prolly duplicate files in x-common/x-files base [04:11] that is what i thought [04:11] i could not wait i got kopete out of svn [04:12] i have a question about kde 3.5 [04:12] it's really unstable for me, could it be because i'm using a 686 kernel? [04:13] what part is unstable [04:13] I'm on 686 with 3.5 b1... It's definately beta [04:14] god-zero: yeah but do you think it is unstable. [04:14] prolly not the 686... [04:14] unstable: problems with multimedia [04:14] alot of little things that aren't comming to me [04:14] but no x lockups [04:15] i think it is mostly stable. I have had minor multimedia issues [04:15] i have not spent the time to try to nail them down to a clear definition [04:15] ok, so the fact that i'm running a 686 kernel isn;t the problem? === ManLord [n=martin@220.80-202-255.nextgentel.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:16] i used it all day at work and did not notice any hiccups [04:16] I haven't booted into 386, buy I haven't seem any kernel looking problems [04:16] but [04:17] it just randomly freezes and such [04:17] the whole screen or 1 app [04:17] what video card [04:17] any thoughts on what it could be [04:17] video seems to cause extreem strain [04:17] ati radeon 320m igp rs200 [04:17] ati 9200se [04:17] ouch.. pass me. i use nvidia [04:17] fglrx === _tron [n=tron@201.247.88.96] has joined #kubuntu [04:18] will there be kde 3.5 repositories for amd64 anytime soon? [04:19] 3d has been ok though [04:19] no lockups [04:19] Jeezis: laptop? [04:20] yes [04:20] Jeezis: is it an option to try like the vesa 2d drivers or is 3d a must have [04:20] but i havent' had any problems with 3.4.2 [04:20] 3d is a must :-p must play enemy territory [04:20] same X and video driver configuration === _tron [n=tron@201.247.88.96] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [04:21] yeah i understand.. there was a thread on the breezy forum about ati drivers. since i am nvidia guy did not read it [04:21] http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks === regeya_ [n=shane@dialup-4.159.176.218.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:22] sproingie: no word yet on non-x86-32 [04:22] Jeezis: yeah i am not a big gamer so i only run 2d [04:23] eep. kontact is sig11'ing after it starts up kmail. yet kmail runs fine outside of kontact. [04:23] and I left xchat aqua running at work again. grr. [04:24] mac? === Jeezis [n=roger@4.23.231.79] has joined #kubuntu [04:24] jsubl2: yep. [04:24] yeah i use that too. [04:24] os x at work, kubuntu at home. [04:25] beats the hell out of win at work [04:25] heh. [04:25] win wouldn't be so bad for me if it didn't have such a slow filesystem and process model [04:26] i use kubuntu at work.. i am a rebel [04:26] win can be ok...if you perform a few dozen reg tweaks [04:26] and disable indexing...and disable the theming engine...and...and...and...and... === regeya_ [n=shane@adsl-sp3-cdale176.micgi.com] has joined #kubuntu [04:26] I lie. It's still a resource hog. [04:26] and don't use it on the network or it willlllllllllll get infected [04:27] its filesystem and process model is so heavyweight, that you'll never make them acceptably fast === aikon [n=aikon@200.87.18.5] has joined #kubuntu [04:27] #join sucre [04:27] most of it has to do with security. every process has to go through about eighty billion initialization routines [04:27] file access is similar [04:27] if i have to research a windows bug.. i fire up firefox on my linux box and head msn and think yeah scan this baby [04:28] lol [04:28] is it possible to download utilities from microsoft's website from firefox? I don't use windows enough to know how, if it's possible. [04:28] sure [04:28] i do it all the time === tenshiKur0 [n=tenshiKu@S0106000d93cb5211.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:28] ms's site is becoming pretty browser-agnostic these days [04:29] the windows update is still a nocando [04:29] well that's a control [04:29] I keep getting some sort of genuine-advantage b.s. for things, even powertoys [04:29] a lot of crap needs that Windows Genuine Advantage stuff to work [04:29] i wonder if it would work if you used the activex host plugin for mozilla [04:29] ooh. [04:29] I've heard there's a way you can even get your Linux box to pass the WGA === regeya gets embarrassed...hadn't thought of that. [04:30] i never get WGA prompts, and i just downloaded some powertoys recently [04:30] seriously, I got a WGA prompt trying to get, of all things, tweakui. [04:30] i think they may have shut wga off for now [04:31] as of today? this was about 24 hours ago. [04:31] after they realized how bad it was at validating server-side. like, not at all [04:31] huh, nope, was a few weeks ago that i last downloaded stuff [04:31] heh. === regeya goes back to trying to figure out wtf is up with kontact [04:41] hooray, fixed. [04:43] for some reason kontact-embedded-kmail and the old config file weren't happy with each other (have been running mainline ubuntu for a few months :-} ) [04:43] how can i detect my modem? which serial port etc [04:43] tom@manticore:~$ sudo chown -R tom:tom .kde [04:43] tom@manticore:~$ sudo chown -R tom:tom .kderc [04:43] tom@manticore:~$ kate [04:43] kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed. [04:43] errr sorry [04:43] didnt mean to paste [04:44] i actually fixed that problem [04:44] 0000:00:1f.6 Modem: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 03) [04:44] comes up in lspci === lwells [n=lwells@ip68-228-77-244.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:53] hi all [04:54] hi === pc10 [n=pc10@203.177.247.139] has joined #kubuntu [04:54] how you doing gd === bur[n] er [n=burner@c-67-173-243-73.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:55] gz i mean [04:55] ok, tieres after cleaning up after the tornados [04:55] tired [04:55] you in Kansas === NeoFax [n=terry@c-24-10-109-222.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [04:56] minnesota [04:56] Anyone having problems with KDM in breezy? [04:57] MN == where I grew up [04:57] cool [04:57] anyone familiar with going from debian unstabel to breezy? [04:57] I get "No profile found for user 'terry'. [04:58] i'm getting libxft2 errors http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2477 [04:59] NeoFax: ahve you ever been able to login? [04:59] god-zero: Only with gdm, never with KDM. === nalioth [n=Apple@pdpc/supporter/bronze/nalioth] has joined #kubuntu [05:00] I have read all of the Xsession files, but nothing states looking for a profile. [05:00] so you _do_ have a /home/terry? [05:00] god-zero: Yes [05:00] However, I do not have a /home/terry/.xsession(.Xsession) [05:03] neither do I... so that's not a prob === ggarza [n=ggarza23@adsl-66-136-98-33.dsl.hrlntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:08] NeoFax: what kde package did you install? [05:08] For kdm? [05:08] yes === ggarza [n=ggarza23@adsl-66-136-98-33.dsl.hrlntx.swbell.net] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"] [05:09] How can I check that via the command line? [05:10] most I was wondering... you went from ubuntu, added kubuntu-desktop? [05:11] or did you instak kubuntu from cd? [05:11] Yes, and I have dist-upgraded everyday since [05:11] Ubuntu then apt-got kubuntu-desktop === claydoh [n=claydoh@65.99.187.244] has joined #kubuntu [05:16] wow. aptitude wants to remove kubuntu-desktop. methinks I shall wait to upgrade for a while. [05:17] regeya: That's no problem as it is a meta package [05:17] As long as no other KDE packages get removed, it's fine === rouns [n=rouns@CPE0004e24817e1-CM00080d8a1884.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu [05:18] well, true...hm. [05:19] NeoFax: every thught I had was a dead end === rouns is now known as _rouns_ === _rouns_ [n=rouns@CPE0004e24817e1-CM00080d8a1884.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [05:20] god-zero: Thanks! I submitted a bug to kubuntu's bugzilla [05:23] <_Foodcoman_> A buddy of mine is thinking of installing Kubuntu, 1 drive, 1 partition, plenty of free space! Easy? [05:23] <_Foodcoman_> I have always had an extra drive. [05:26] i'm trying to mount a USB hard drive, how do i do that? [05:26] nm [05:26] i found it [05:28] foodcoman: yes, I found it pretty easy... no dual boot here, but I here there's no real trouble there === qbit [n=qbit@66-44-102-180.s180.apx2.lnhdc.md.dialup.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu === eddrex [n=eric@c-67-169-213-246.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu [05:34] <_Foodcoman_> Thanks god-zero! [05:39] Riddell: oh... you asked whether other things work... I just tried to run things via the run dialogue... _nothing_ will run... [05:39] (tried to run 'konqueror', and 'konsole' neither worked) [05:40] <_Foodcoman_> lunitik: funky mine sure does work. [05:40] <_Foodcoman_> Alt+f2 and type it in???? hrrmmm. [05:43] _Foodcoman_: 3.5beta1 fresh install (no previous kde) ... confirmed by Riddell and others. [05:43] _Foodcoman_: you'll notice I said 'run dialogue'... which is what alt+f2 brings up... [05:44] I'm also not getting a kwin instance... [05:46] excuse me, anybody know if kdelibs is broken in the breezy packages for kde3.5b1? [05:47] i did a fresh install of breezy, from an ubuntu cd [05:48] then added universe, metaverse, and the 3.5b1 repos and installed kubuntu-desktop [05:49] after that kde desktop won't start, with "klauncher can't contact something or other" [05:50] oh, nm. [05:50] read history :) === zed [n=zed@64-252-131-187.adsl.snet.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:02] lunitik: I ran into some bugs in 3.5b1... but no run dialogue... that's gotta hurt [06:10] <_Foodcoman_> lunitik: Missed that sorry! === eiko [n=eiko@ip68-225-251-189.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu === _richard [n=richard@209.161.234.58] has joined #kubuntu === jarkom28 [n=jarkom28@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has joined #kubuntu === Bicchi [n=AB@adsl-065-006-167-199.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu === jarkom22 [n=jarkom22@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has joined #kubuntu === jarkom22 is now known as roak [06:38] ss === jarkom23 [n=jarkom23@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:38] fefef [06:39] test [06:39] test [06:39] test [06:39] test [06:39] test [06:39] test [06:39] test [06:39] test [06:39] test [06:39] test [06:39] test === jarkom23 [n=jarkom23@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation] [06:39] test.. [06:40] test [06:40] test === jarkom29 [n=jarkom29@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has joined #kubuntu === cdemwell [n=cdemwell@24.86.0.178] has joined #kubuntu [06:40] Jo [06:41] I'm having the damnedest time with a new kubuntu install, I hope someone here might be able to help me: === jarkom21 [n=jarkom21@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has joined #kubuntu === jarkom11 [n=jarkom11@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:41] All users - but steve - can properly edit the k menu === jarkom25 [n=jarkom25@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has joined #kubuntu === jarkom [n=jarkom@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has joined #kubuntu === jarkom15 [n=jarkom15@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:41] applications appear in the k menu when they are installed for everyone but steve [06:41] test [06:41] kmenuedit works for everyone but steve, as does kappfinder [06:41] hi [06:41] I've tried deleting and re-adding steve as a user... no dice! [06:42] lowww === jarkom10 [n=jarkom10@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:42] (hi, roak ) [06:42] any thoughts? === jarkom26 [n=jarkom26@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has joined #kubuntu === jarkom32 [n=jarkom32@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has joined #kubuntu === _jarkom [n=jarkom@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:42] hi too [06:42] h r u? [06:42] hang...... === jarkom24 [n=jarkom24@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:42] <_jarkom> heiii [06:42] I'm not doing all that well because I have a problem. === jarkom31 [n=jarkom31@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:42] I'm trying to find someone who might be able to help === jarkom30 [n=jarkom30@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has joined #kubuntu === jarkom27 [n=jarkom27@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:43] hi there! === jarkom23 [n=jarkom23@ip-77-236-net.net2cyber.net] has joined #kubuntu [06:43] alo? 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