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[12:56] sebest 14786 27.4 40.3 378832 208092 pts/1 Sl 00:21 9:47 mono-beagled --debug /usr/lib/beagle/BeagleDaemon.exe --bg [12:57] running for only 30 minutes [12:58] yes beagle eats memory ;) [01:00] but it stops after it has indexed everything (after a running a week or so) :) [01:00] then it only needs space for the delta [01:02] in a week?! lol, i must go buying extra ram and hotplug it! [01:02] lol [01:05] sebest_, it is getting better [01:05] Burgundavia with beagle? [01:05] i mean with 0.1 [01:06] sebest_, beagle is getting less memory hungry [01:07] are there any plans to allow package selection during install? [01:07] morning [01:07] ajmitch: hola [01:08] havoc: no [01:08] :( [01:08] why complicate the install? [01:08] ajmitch: if you allowed package selection during install then you could customize and save an install for many systems [01:08] it can't be automated right now [01:08] at least not as far as I know [01:08] there's stuff to do that now [01:09] there is kickstart [01:09] which makes ubuntu wholey unsuitable for large shops [01:09] ogra: what's that? [01:09] you dont know redhats kickstart for mass deployments ? [01:09] oh, it's a redhat thing [01:09] I've been using mandrake [01:10] which allows you to save the package selection, settings, etc.. for doing mass rollouts [01:10] but I'm trying to switch my whole business over to debian and ubuntu [01:10] kickstart hooks into the installer [01:11] so I'm just trying to find equivalent procedures for what I already do [01:11] yuo can do your customized config and deploy it everywhere [01:11] but I still have to install gnome, then install KDE afterwards? [01:12] (I use that as one example) === shackan [n=shackan@host247-79.pool8261.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=root@lns01-1354.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:17] Firefly rules === dooglus [n=dooglus@rincevent.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-83-29.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StoneTable [n=stone@c-24-14-85-48.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:40] Hey folks [02:40] hello [02:41] Heya ajmitch [02:51] pida looks pretty neat... thanks to whoever packaged it [03:00] Jesus, does anything build anymore :'-( === arzajac [n=arzajac@modemcable201.119-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:07] flashplugin-nonfree recommends gsfonts-x11. flashplayer-mozilla does not. This package is needed to let flash display fonts. Can it be made a depends? [03:08] For both packages? === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@pcp09354977pcs.jersyc01.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont curses mpg123's continued ftbfs === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch notes that flashplay-mozilla was fixed by infinity, according to breezy-changes === _jaldhar is now known as jaldhar [03:42] iz possible that mpg123 now builds... [03:43] iz needs-build atm [03:43] and -20 still has bogus dpkg invocations [03:47] g'night all [04:33] Damn it's quiet in here === jond [n=jon@ppp-67-126-215-184.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] hi [04:36] Hello [04:38] mediawiki in breezy has dependency issues [04:38] which is in universe [04:39] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help_talk:Diff according to this site 1.4.x of mediawiki can't use version 5.0.4 of php but that is exactly what it depends on [04:40] either mediawiki needs to be upgraded or php needs to be downgraded [04:40] Did you check the changelog? Maybe someone fixed it? [04:40] where can I find the changelog? [04:40] I will look [04:41] You can look on packages.ubuntu.com or apt-get source :-) [04:42] well I recently apt-get update if thats what you mean [04:43] i'll do it again just in case [04:43] No, I mean you can download the source with "apt-get source mediawiki", then look at the changelog :-) === ajmitch would bug ogra about it :) [04:45] Hey ajmitch, you bored? :-) [04:46] http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/web/mediawiki I am looking here and it is still version php5 and actually it looks like someone changed it to depend on that in august [04:46] bddebian: no [04:47] jond: file a bug in malone about it [04:47] ajmitch, ok === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-227-156-246.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-227-156-246.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === tritium [n=michael@pcp0011975002pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:10] Heya tritium [05:10] Hi bddebian. [05:10] How's life? [05:12] Not bad. I was getting ready to throw my harmony remote out the window a minute ago [05:12] You? [05:12] There's about 3 or 4 packages I'd like to throw out the window :-) === tritium opens the window [05:13] heh === Amaranth [n=travis@unaffiliated/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:20] bddebian, I'm watching the NMSU football game. Tonight is the first official radio broadcast of a football game in Navaho. [05:21] Hmm, interesting. You speak Navaho? [05:21] Nope === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port162-53.ubs.maxnet.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:25] yay for overheating [05:26] Am I exciting you again ajmitch_ ?? ;-P [05:27] hah funny === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jon_ [n=jon@adsl-67-112-108-120.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rbelem [n=rodrigo@200.246.97.164] has joined #ubuntu-motu === markuman [n=markuman@p509249CD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob^ [n=rob@pdpc/supporter/student/rob-ubuntu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === markuman [n=markuman@p50926204.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [n=loic@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-130-224.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:50] hello === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-119-103.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mae_ [n=mae@dpc674653178.direcpc.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:28] <\sh> moins [09:30] hi \sh [09:32] <\sh> ajmitch: I'll send an email to elmo tomorrow for some syncs, and clamav will be updated then as well...but for dapper, we should consider a move to main for this piece of software === ivoks [n=ivoks@lns01-0908.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:40] \sh: even then it'll need constant engine updates [09:40] something to BOF :) [09:40] <\sh> yes... [09:41] ah, getting ready for canada? :) [09:41] debian has its volatile archive now, or at least soon :) [09:41] did anyone worked with dh_python? [09:41] sure [09:41] well, it goes in build or install? :) [09:41] install, i gues [09:42] so, what else beside ${python:Depends} should I do? [09:42] i substitutes that with nothing [09:43] s/i/it/ [09:43] pass the right parameters to dh_python :) [09:44] it needs paramateres? :/ [09:44] and make sure you're calling it in the right place [09:44] you have read the manpage, right? [09:44] yes === Valandil [n=chrys@dsl-084-056-119-103.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks is still under impression of last game on european champ. in basketball [10:15] <\sh> where is mez? [10:15] <\sh> where is jdong? [10:16] can someone point me to where I need to log to find the log of why I get errors on shutting down? [10:16] its not showing up under /var/log/messages [10:17] the console output or the kernel ring buffer? [10:17] console output [10:17] as I shutdown one program generates an error [10:17] in the console outside of X [10:17] afaik that's not logged [10:17] gotta learn how to write faster then :( [10:17] I think its hal though [10:17] it comes up with an error [10:20] foudn it /etc/dbus-1/event.d/20hal: line 50: kill: (7295) - No such process === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-38-8.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-34-214.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-13-7.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shadoi [n=shadoi@129.219.152.116] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=Hirion@p5487FF77.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pkern [n=pkern@debian/developer/pkern] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marc_ [n=marc@203-59-199-174.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:38] ajmitch: Thanks for your efforts to bring Gobby into breezy. :D [11:38] pkern: sorry, was going to notify you when it happened :) [11:39] ajmitch: ;) [11:39] how goes utnubu? [11:39] you've tagged the remaining RFP/ITP bugs? [11:40] <\sh> does anybody know if this jdong is coming to ubz? [11:40] \sh: I haven't heard, but mez is [11:40] morning, folks! [11:40] ajmitch: I tagged all which were on the missing packages list. [11:40] morning siretart [11:40] hi ajmitch [11:40] morning \sh, are there remaining questions about revu? [11:41] ajmitch: I hope to get started with Utnubu as soon as I have got more time again. I'm too busy with school currently to backport Ubuntu packages to Debian === ajmitch needs some more music to listen to [11:41] ajmitch: We should start to write scripts similar to yours for semi-automatic syncing ;) [11:41] <\sh> siretart: I had problems with recovering the password for one user without a signed key ;) [11:41] pkern: sure [11:41] pkern: we'll be putting our scripts on the server that hosts revu [11:42] ajmitch: They aren't /yet/ publically available, right? [11:42] \sh: password recovery should work after his first accepted upload [11:42] pkern: anything I've written is a bit messy, as it was hacked up for my own use :) [11:42] <\sh> siretart: well...he uploaded already many packages... [11:42] then password recovery should work [11:42] ajmitch: (: [11:42] pkern: what sort of things are you looking for? [11:43] <\sh> siretart: I tried password recovery from commandline and it told me: no signed key ;) [11:43] <\sh> siretart: I wanted to give this guy comment functionality for his own packages [11:43] the missing packages one I'm planning to rewrite & use grep-dctrl & a bit of shell === ajmitch is on the utnubu-discuss list if you're wanting to coordinate there [11:45] ajmitch: Well, Utnubu is about letting Ubuntu maintaining the packages. So we need something semi-automatic which merges our little build-dependency changes into the latest Ubuntu update to the package. Currently we have only one package under the hood of ut [11:45] utnubu, and that one is manually managed by nomeata [11:45] so a ubuntu->debian MoM [11:46] jo [11:46] Would be nice (: [11:46] <\sh> pkern: ask scott ;) [11:46] keybuk told me that the mom functionality will be part of HCT [11:46] HCT? [11:46] the hypothetical changeset tool. === ajmitch would have loved to have seen more people maintaining in debian instead of solely in ubuntu [11:47] it is vaporware up to now, and hasn't been advertised or annouced. [11:47] it's quite dependant on launchpad [11:47] ajmitch: Same here. But I don't think that this would happen. Getting all to deal with Debian sponsors... (Well, Utnubu Devs would be available for this task...) [11:47] and is switching to using bzr for branching [11:48] pkern: it's ok for some of us who can upload :) [11:48] ajmitch: It was about the non-DDs. (: [11:49] yep [11:49] and we'll have some who'll get their package uploaded but go MIA [11:49] I think it'll be more important during dapper's cycle [11:49] ajmitch: Do you think the maintainers care about Debian when they're targetting Ubuntu? (This probably sounds too harsh, sorry |:) [11:49] pkern: often they don't care beyond what they use, imho [11:50] ajmitch: I thought the same... [11:50] not really a harsh question [11:50] ajmitch: Even in my social net I sense much hostility against Debian because it's "too old" and "sucks for C++ developers". They like Ubuntu more but don't understand they both need to coexist. [11:51] yeah [11:51] I don't get the 'sucks for c++ developers' === siretart don't get it either [11:51] since we got the pain of g++ 4.0 transition a couple of months before debian started [11:51] ajmitch: c++-developers-who-consider-MSVC-to-be-c++? [11:52] the compilers are mostly in sync in both debian and ubuntu, thanks to doko [11:52] the MOTU team during breezy has been more of a firefighting team, trying to get everything in shape [11:52] for dapper I think we'll see more new stuff [11:52] Treenaks: Nope, C++ developers who don't get the problem with binary packages because they're mostly using Gentoo. [11:52] ajmitch: 8 months of C++ transition is evil. [11:52] pkern: UGRGRHHR [11:52] ajmitch: Or how long is it? [11:53] ajmitch: Nothing flowing into testing etc. [11:53] pkern: for Debian it's normal, because there's the NMU taboo [11:53] pkern: we're pretty much done with C++ transition here [11:53] pkern: what does gentoo feature to c++ devs what debian doesn't? [11:53] Treenaks: It's leaved for the transitions. [11:53] siretart: everything gets built at once, no long dependency chains that get broken by renamed packages/incompat ABI [11:53] pkern: then it can be done in a few days [11:53] pkern: except on m68k [11:53] Treenaks: Everybody could do 0-day NMUs during the BSPs, and I think 2-day NMUs for transition issues over the whole time. [11:54] Treenaks: you really think that it could be a few days? [11:54] Treenaks: The problem is more the "all dependencies need to be built on all architecture before you compile more" === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:54] ajmitch: yes, 2 weeks max [11:54] there are some deep dependencies there [11:54] Treenaks: Which needs days per package [11:55] Treenaks: it takes longer than that for some single packages [11:55] this is C++, people write broken code [11:55] siretart: They just don't get the problem that we need something like an ABI transition. Ignorant people are out there. Gentoo also features newer version of libraries much, much sooner. [11:55] well, the c++ transition is mostly complete, so the time of the big transition is over, afai understand.. [11:55] ajmitch: Look at packages like sigc++ which do not enter testing ): === ajmitch sees that one of his packages has never entered testing [12:02] pkern: I think we'll try & discuss some solutions for getting our work into debian at UBZ [12:12] siretart: hello [12:14] ajmitch: Would be nice. Please report the results to utnubu then (: [12:17] pkern: certainly [12:18] siretart: what is the problem in GLUTransiton with boson-base ? not yet uploaded ? [12:19] pef: The last time I looked at it, it failed to build [12:20] siretart: ohh ok :) === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-38-8.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:22] pef: looking at http://bugs.debian.org/boson-base, I don't have much hope with it :( [12:24] is it possible for opera to end up in multiverse? [12:24] Cimmerian: depends on the distribution term, did you check them/ [12:25] siretart: ok, will look [12:26] pef: looking at the maintainer record, I suspect the maintainer lost interest in the package :( === janm [n=jm__@202.172.110.248] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] siretart: so why he didn't orphans the package . [12:31] pef: ask him via email. perhaps lack of time/interesst [12:31] interest [12:40] siretart: I try to build it, and I have different error that the error on bugs.debian, error with Arts library [12:40] and you ? ;) === vrln [n=vrln@a80-186-14-196.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:43] is there a chance something can still be upgraded before universe is frozen? === _tonio [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:43] the gtkpod version is a bit too old for at least some revisions of ipod mini [12:43] and it should be fixed in the latest release (0.94, ubuntu has 0.93) [12:43] http://packages.debian.org/unstable/sound/gtkpod <-- unstable has 0.94 packaged [12:44] pef: I don't remember. If you really want to get it fixed, check if there is a new upstream version and try that [12:44] pef: and contact the maintainer [12:45] siretart: ok :) [12:45] I'll try the debian package to see if it works (according to one forum it should fix it) [12:45] vrln: only if the new version fixes important bugs [12:46] vrln: check the changelog/diff [12:47] siretart: just tried it - I can confirm that the ubuntu 0.93 gtkpod does not work at all with a second revision ipod mini [12:47] the debian unstable version works - just read the itunesdb [12:47] but I'll search for the changelog, it should be there [12:47] vrln: how can you be sure that it don't introduce new bugs? [12:48] siretart: I can't :) [12:48] BUGFIX: Some iTunesDB files written by iTunes could not be read because of an error in the parse code (gtkpod would attempt to read beyond the end of the file). [12:48] BUGFIX: Fixed compatibility issue with new firmware 3.1 and iTunes 4.9 (only 256 tracks were shown on the iPod, iTunes removed the majority of the tracks from the iPod). Podcasts are still not supported, however, and will be lost when handled by gtkpod. [12:48] but it does contain the critical bugfix [12:48] vrln: we will have the package in dapper then [12:49] http://www.gtkpod.org/news.html <-- it does indeed have a few new features [12:49] yeah, the package from debian works fine in ubuntu (the dependencies seem to be the same), I just thought I'd let you know [12:50] siretart: this might be a case for breaking freeze, if the breezy package is useless on a lot of hardware [12:50] <\sh> siretart: check this http://www.ubuntuusers.de/viewtopic.php?t=11932 [12:51] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=317701 is the bug [12:51] and it is important *grin* [12:52] \sh: there seem to be 2 maybe unrelated probles [12:52] problems [12:52] after confirming the issue [12:52] buh. [12:52] hi tseng! [12:52] <\sh> siretart: well...they installed 1.0.6 from backports and now i think there is a new update from ubuntu [12:52] hi siretart [12:53] shadoi: yeah, known issue :( [12:53] <\sh> we should have a talk with jdong ;) [12:53] ajmitch: after reconsidering, the gtkpod update might really be a good idea [12:53] need to go, will anyone request a sync from elmo? [12:53] bye! [12:54] <\sh> siretart: yes...doing it [12:54] <\sh> I make a list with all syncs [12:54] we have MOTUToSync [12:54] <\sh> siretart: but I'm writing a mail to elmo ;) that he can do his job next week ;) [12:54] <\sh> siretart: I have more packages ;) === shackan [n=shackan@host175-93.pool871.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch feels like watching some classic Peter Jackson films :) === \sh just eats [12:57] <\sh> and watching people breaking their systems [12:57] heh === tseng installs colony 5 === ajmitch needs to grab colony 5 for testing === \sh is waiting for an install iso with 2.6.12-9.18 [01:00] <\sh> because I just reinstalled windows on this r200...and I need to test 1. sk98lin and 2. resizing [01:01] siretart: thanks by the way, this is really what I'd call listening to user-feedback :) === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-83-29.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:09] Why is 1. the powerpc kernel broken with xfs and 2. lilo broken with root on LVM (it worked two times just fine, but now it refuses to write a new mbr) [01:10] (broken with root on xfs anyway |:) [01:15] <\sh> going to visit my son..laters dude === j^ [n=j@gw.bootlab.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:20] evolution broken in breezy? === slomo [n=slomo@p5487FF77.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:21] nm desktop icon read evolution-2.2 instead of 2.4 === blueyed [n=daniel@iD4CC1E5E.versanet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:22] jbailey: ping? [01:28] fabbio fixed mythplugins :) [01:31] colony 5 is out ? [01:33] yes. === herzi [n=herzi@d011254.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan should test it in vmware 5 for jbailey === AstralJava [n=jaska@83.102.38.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:08] what's the best way to make libtunepimp/musicbrainz pacakges that compile against libmad? [02:08] so that people can use them as alternatives against existing ones? === janm [n=jm__@202.172.110.248] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:09] Riddell: i would make packages which provide and conflict with the packages without mad support === j^ [n=j@gw.bootlab.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] slomo: from the same source or different sources? [02:11] Riddell: different source probably... the packages without mad support are in main? [02:11] yes === shackan [n=shackan@host88-79.pool8261.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:11] and libmad is in main or universe? [02:11] it's in main [02:11] hmm [02:12] why is it compiled without mad support then? [02:12] because the packages are on the kubuntu CDs and we can't have mad on the CDs [02:13] slomo: I'm here for a couple minutes then I'm away again. 'sup? [02:13] ok... but you can make them in the same source in that case [02:13] I suspect it would be pretty fiddly to make them from the same sources [02:13] then make them from different source ;) wouldn't hurt imho [02:14] jbailey: did you already read my newest comment to the ppc initramfs bug? [02:14] slomo: Nope. [02:14] jbailey: kamion had the same problem when using xfs with colony 5... with ext3 it worked [02:14] jbailey: on ppc [02:15] Joy. [02:15] I'll poke him about it then and see if he can give me one of each initramfs to see what's different. [02:16] thanks... i can do it next weekend when he don't have enough free time [02:17] Well, Kamion sort of spends his life reinstalling Ubuntu [02:17] So if he's going to do a cycle anyway, I'll get it from him. [02:17] Other than that, I have an extra ppc box here I can do a format on. [02:17] It's just not wired up to a monitor atm. [02:18] ok... sounds good ;) === sedak [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lamont [n=lamont@dhcp-sn38-013.hrz.uni-oldenburg.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bddebian@pcp08717033pcs.phnixv01.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:51] hi bddebian :) [02:51] bddebian: want to look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=562 ? [02:52] Heya slomo [02:53] slomo: You don't need reviews do you? :-) [02:54] bddebian: only one review ;) [02:55] :-) [03:01] bddebian: will you do? ;) [03:01] Yep, sorry, just waiting for my machine to finish an update [03:02] s/update/upgrade [03:03] no need to be sorry :P [03:03] slomo: still not revu-built? ;) [03:03] re, btw [03:04] siretart: no... to many other things to do atm :( for example i'll be in denmark next week... but they have wlan everywhere ;) [03:04] slomo: oh [03:04] :) [03:04] siretart: i'll be there: http://www.jaoo.org [03:05] anyone know how to debug why a usb2 device is running at 1.0 speeds [03:05] on a usb2 port.. [03:06] tseng: no idea [03:06] slomo: You want me to build it on tiber, is that what you want? [03:06] bddebian: no... i want you to review the package and give me a vote when it's ok ;) [03:06] tseng: did it connect to the ehci driver ? [03:07] slomo: But don't you already have upload rights? :-) [03:07] [4294889.641000] usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address [03:07] Yagisan: i guess not. [03:07] bddebian: sure... but it is a NEW package === bddebian is confused [03:07] slomo: Oohh, gotcha [03:07] slomo: w00t. sounds grat :) [03:07] great === chrissturm [n=chris@85-124-174-71.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:09] tseng: try mod probing ehci_hcd and hotplug the device again [03:09] Yagisan: trying exactly that :P [03:09] tseng: I'm a slow typist === Yagisan wishes he had voice control [03:11] hm that might be a bit faster [03:11] but nothing crazy [03:11] [4600023.412000] usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 8 [03:11] yeah [03:13] i guess it really isnt usb2 or something [03:13] tseng: nope is only 12Mbps usb1 [03:13] the ports i mean. [03:13] on my motherboard [03:14] tseng: how old is the m/b ? [03:14] maybe 2 years tops [03:14] and it was high end [03:14] tseng: what chipset ? [03:15] intel something or other [03:17] tseng: try this http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-009024.htm [03:18] tseng: it seems usb2 isn't enabled by default for some intel boards and perhaps non-intel as well === TMM [n=hp@c51471f2c.cable.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:19] OK, I really have to start keeping my machine more up to date. This 200-300 packages stuff sucks :-) [03:21] whats the command to update a source deb to a newer version? i have the sourcedeb to mkvtoolnix 1.5.5 and i would like to make a deb for mkvtoolnix 1.5.6 with it. i think it was something debxxx -S [03:22] chrissturm: uupdate or uscan... depending on whether there is a watchfile [03:23] slomo: what is a watchfile? is this documented somewhere? [03:23] chrissturm: does debian/watch exist? [03:23] nope [03:24] then download the new upstream tarball and run uupdate on it [03:24] cool, thx [03:24] does that work with a bz2 compressed tarball? [03:25] test it === terrex [n=terrex@84-122-83-29.onocable.ono.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:27] now i get uupdate: could not find diffs from version 1.5.5-1 to apply! === sedak [n=fred@82-32-125-115.cable.ubr04.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [03:36] jbailey: btw... the incomplete write message seems to be caused by xfs as well when i understood kamion right... maybe that's the point to look at... maybe yaboot loads more then just the initrd when it lies on xfs [03:51] OK, WTF is up with my account on REVU?? [03:51] bddebian: ? [03:52] I can't login in anymore [03:52] does pw recovery work? [03:52] Nope [03:52] They all decrypt to None [03:53] then you most probably used the wrong login name [03:53] I have tried all three [03:53] also this one? http://revu.tauware.de/lostpw.py?email=bddebian@comcast.net [03:57] Weird, when I did a recover on that before it came back as none.. Hmm. Thx siretart === vrln [n=vrln@a80-186-14-196.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] Holy crap, we're up to 527 bugs again.. :'-( === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@2-mi2-1.acn.waw.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sebest__ [n=chatzill@Mix-Reims-105-1-142.w193-249.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:15] sebest: when can we expect a release of your avahi panel applet? or do you have objections against using current svn? [04:20] sebest: and please make your licensing clear... LICENSE says GPL, some sources say LGPL... and afaik COPYING is the "standard" file to contain the license... autogen.sh gives some warning about it === Snadder [i=sander@062016176209.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:23] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [04:23] smlnj: Depends: smlnj-runtime (>= 110.42-3) but it is not installable [04:24] E: Broken packages [04:24] been like this for some weeks atleast. [04:24] anyone in here able to fix this? [04:24] what is it? [04:24] Snadder: smlnj is completly broken... it's unlikely that we can fix it before the release [04:24] some error with the package "smlnj [04:25] hum.. it works in debian [04:25] slomo: c++-breakage? [04:26] Snadder: it's also broken for debian... it's unbuildable atm because it needs itself for bootstrapping [04:26] I installed it 4 days ago at my debian box [04:27] Snadder: installing != building [04:27] Snadder: ubuntu rebuilds everything, but apparently it can't be rebuilt (even in debian) [04:27] Snadder: yes, it's installable... but we can't build it anymore (and debian has older binaries on their ftps... the new ones doesn't build for them too iirc) [04:27] ah... understand [04:28] any idea when the release will be? [04:28] Snadder: sadly the debian maintainer has no time to fix it somehow :( [04:28] Snadder: breezy? october 13th afaik [04:29] WTF is up with Malone? [04:29] ok.. but why not build it from source?.. and not depend on debian? [04:30] Snadder: It needs itself to build [04:30] cross compile? [04:32] I hardly doubt its not possible to compile the source package from theire website [04:32] this package have been around for ages [04:33] Snadder: So go for it ;-) [04:33] Snadder: i have a working version for x86 and ppc here... but it's a really bad hack [04:33] Snadder: it uses the binaries you can get on their homepage to build itself again [04:35] Snadder: but imho this package is just broken upstream... it needs itself to build and they provide no easy way to get a bootstrap compiler [04:36] okay. [04:36] but as someone cares about this package i'll see whether i can upload my hack later... [04:36] i thought nobody cares because it was broken for ages [04:37] abit sad.. since i've recommended ubuntu to some friends I got at school.. which needs to work with ml.. maybe they have to switch over to debian now [04:37] ah. ok [04:37] would mosml also work for you? [04:37] if it works to run ml programs.. [04:38] let me see [04:38] there is no package atm [04:38] i have one on my hdd ;) [04:38] the license is a bit suspect [04:39] what kinda license? [04:40] whould it be possible to add it to ubuntu? [04:40] it is partly non-free [04:40] so it would be in multiverse [04:41] O_o.. then it whould rock.. if you'd manage to add that package [04:41] well.. if it works just like smlnj tho. [04:41] do you have some time to test? [04:41] what kind of programminglanguage is ML? [04:41] chrissturm: functional [04:42] like erlang? [04:42] like lisp [04:42] but without that many brackets ;) [04:42] i like brackets [04:42] thats why i use tcl [04:42] heh === tseng hides [04:42] me too... but many people hate them ;) [04:42]